[12:13] <surabachi> any ideas on that intelikey
[12:14] <malix0> hi all is there some one interested on solving this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840
[12:14] <intelikey> surabachi then the "install" is needed in that line "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kxdocker kxdocker-data "       yes we will finally get it
[12:15] <surabachi> ok thast working
[12:15] <intelikey> that should be a copy and paste command there   i think i even spelled it right.
[12:15] <surabachi> now lwts hope kxdocker works
[12:15] <intelikey> check the file for size
[12:15] <zorglu_> trying ktorrent 2.0, this stuff keeps asking me which file i want to download within a torrent, is there a way to avoid this ?
[12:16] <surabachi> intelikey: didnt work same error again i think: http://pastebin.ca/198328
[12:17] <intelikey> ls -s  /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml
[12:17] <intelikey> still 0 bites ?
[12:17] <surabachi> mike@mike-desktop:~$ ls -s  /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml
[12:17] <surabachi> 0 /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml
[12:17] <surabachi> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[12:17] <surabachi> yes i guesse
[12:17] <intelikey> yep
[12:17] <intelikey> that package must be hosed.  report it.
[12:17] <VanessaE> evening
[12:18] <surabachi> intelikey: i tried the .tar but it also gave me the same error
[12:18] <surabachi> gtg
[12:18] <surabachi> bb in a bit
[12:19] <intelikey> ok i'm went.
[12:22] <visik7> kde 3.5.5 for dapper hasn't kdelibs-bin !! WTF ?
[12:25] <surabachi> intelikey: so no more ideas
[12:25] <lipe_pe> Hi people, i need to know, please, how can i work with cups. 'cause it needs a username and pass, and i just write root and the rootpass... and nothing .. it says that its wrong ... what should i do, please ... ???
[12:26] <lipe_pe> Hi people, i need to know, please, how can i work with cups. 'cause it needs a username and pass, and i just write root and the rootpass... and nothing .. it says that its wrong ... what should i do, please ... ???
[12:26] <VanessaE> please don't repeat
[12:26] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: sorry ...
[12:26] <VanessaE> (at least, not so quickly)
[12:26] <lipe_pe> :) ok  sorry again
[12:27] <VanessaE> have you looked at /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to make sure you can actually "log in"?
[12:27] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: lemme see it, 1 min please
[12:27] <VanessaE> and your 'rootpass' is a true root password or is it just your user password?
[12:28] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: its my true pass ...
[12:28] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: its my true root pass
[12:29] <VanessaE> ok
[12:29] <VanessaE> I ask because as you may know, ubuntu does not have a proper 'root' account by default, and hence no root passwd
[12:29] <VanessaE> (security reasons)
[12:29] <lipe_pe> humm
[12:30] <lipe_pe> look, i was using debian, and i installed kubuntu today
[12:30] <VanessaE> ok
[12:30] <lipe_pe> i just can log with su now
[12:30] <lipe_pe> when i type su ...
[12:30] <lipe_pe> i can log as root
[12:30] <BonBonTheJon> how do I force 'mv -i' to answer no to all
[12:30] <lipe_pe> is it right ? is this pass that i'm using in su is the real root pass ??
[12:31] <VanessaE> lipe: traditionally, yes.
[12:32] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: ok ... look, when i'm adding a printer, in the end it asks me a username and pass ... what should i do ?
[12:32] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: someday i just added a user and typed there and it worked
[12:32] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: but i don't remember which command was that ...
[12:33] <VanessaE> well you're doing it "right" but now that i think of it, there IS a setting you have to fix to let root log into cups
[12:33] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: and i don't know if it works in kubuntu ...
[12:33] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: in cupsd.conf ?!
[12:33] <VanessaE> checking
[12:34] <VanessaE> it's been a while, I have to find the page again
[12:34] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: thx u veeery much !
[12:35] <BonBonTheJon> any ideas on 'mv -i', looks like --reply=no is depreciated
[12:37] <zorglu_> BonBonTheJon: tried '-f' ?
[12:38] <VanessaE> try adding the username "cupsys"  to the "shadow" group in /etc/group
[12:38] <VanessaE> that sounds like what I first did
[12:38] <grasshopper> am i right that Kubuntu doesn't come with a Mail client by default?
[12:38] <VanessaE> grasshopper: it does - kmail
[12:38] <grasshopper> VanessaE: i don't find it?
[12:38] <zorglu_> hidden in kontact i think
[12:38] <BonBonTheJon> zorglu_: does that answer yes, or no
[12:39] <zorglu_> BonBonTheJon: not an answer, a question
[12:39] <BonBonTheJon> zorglu_: is -f the same as --reply=yes
[12:39] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: hum
[12:39] <grasshopper> VanessaE: if it is normally there by default, what does it mean if it didnt' install on my installation?
[12:40] <VanessaE> it means I'm wrong :)
[12:40] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: thx u veery much, i'll try it now... 1 min please
[12:40] <VanessaE> lipe: you have to restart the machine for that change to work
[12:40] <VanessaE> (at least, restart X)
[12:40] <malix0> did some one else want to try this http://www.massimofidanza.it/firefox on Dapper or Edgy?
[12:40] <grasshopper> VanessaE: aha! so you presumed there is a default mail client. I had also figured it might be Kmail due to it being kde, but i really don't see it
[12:41] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: Ok... u know the command to do it ? i mean add a user to shadow ?!
[12:41] <VanessaE> lipe: vigr usually works
[12:41] <grasshopper> VanessaE: is Kmail what you use? Is it superior ot Thunderbird?
[12:41] <VanessaE> grasshopper: Yes, I use it, and IMHO it is better.
[12:41] <grasshopper> :o
[12:41] <VanessaE> strange though, I could swear my install came with kmail from the start..
[12:42] <zorglu_> grasshopper: type 'kmail' in a konsole
[12:42] <grasshopper> it would seem it should, but it aint here in my menu -strange
[12:42] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: so i'll use username: cupsys pass my pass ?!
[12:42] <BonBonTheJon> grasshopper: do you have kontact
[12:43] <grasshopper> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[12:43] <VanessaE> hm, point of fact it's not in my menus either.
[12:43] <VanessaE> lipe: no
[12:43] <VanessaE> brb
[12:43] <jose__> hola
[12:43] <Digital_Pioneer> How do I access the Bootsplash and KDE splash screen settings?
[12:43] <jose__> estoy liado con linux perdon
[12:43] <zorglu_> VanessaE: as i remember it, kmail is installed by default, but isnt in the menu. luanchable by konsole tho
[12:43] <zorglu_> !es
[12:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:44] <zorglu_> !uplash
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <BonBonTheJon> !usplash
[12:44] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:44] <VanessaE> zorglu:  right, that must have been my case too then
[12:44] <jose__> sig liado pero si nadie ma ayuda es peor
[12:44] <Digital_Pioneer> I tried running usplash from Konsole. It made my colors screw up.
[12:44] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: something called 'usplash' is the bootplash. this page explains how to change it
[12:44] <zorglu_> !es > jose__
[12:45] <VanessaE> lipe: rather..  when you run vigr it should show you your /etc/groups file.  Look for "shadow" and add the word "cupsys" to the end of the line.  If you browse the file, you'll see other entries with a similar form.
[12:45] <grasshopper> zorglu_: do you know if i tick ssl (secure connection); and do i tick local delivery?
[12:45] <zorglu_> grasshopper: no idea of what you are talking about
[12:46] <grasshopper> zorglu_: talking about Kmail configuration
[12:46] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: What about KDE splash?
[12:46] <VanessaE> grasshopper: only use the SSL feature if your mail server supports it (e.g. Gmail), and no, you don't want local delivery
[12:46] <grasshopper> VanessaE: thx! :)
[12:46] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: hmm this one is more usual. i think there are ooption in kde itself
[12:46] <LeeJunFan> !ndiswrapper > LeeJunFan
[12:47] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: i remember this is tunnable by theme
[12:47] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: now which blabal theme is it :)
[12:48] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: I just switched from Debian, which had it in the Appearance settings.
[12:48] <Digital_Pioneer> It isn't there in Kubuntu
[12:49] <VanessaE> speaking of splash screens, I must be the only Kubuntu user without a boot splash :)  (prolly because I prefer Lilo over grub)
[12:49] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: hmm looked in kcontrol directly ?
[12:49] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: GAH! There it is... Odd...
[12:49] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: yep it is there in kcontrol
[12:50] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: But... Then what's this thing in my K menu?
[12:50] <Digital_Pioneer> "System Settings"
[12:50] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: nope, the 'system setting' from the menu needs to be simplify for beginer users
[12:50] <zorglu_> some simplified version
[12:51] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: Can I replace System Settings with KDE Control Center?
[12:51] <maxime_> i need automatix
[12:51] <maxime_> where download it ?
[12:51] <VanessaE> maybe what they should do, instead of having a launcher for a full config utility...perhaps just a configuration wizard instead, something where you can skip steps or quit early, like in Debian's text-mode install utility
[12:52] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: yep, it is not really 2 distinct things, it is only a simplified and a complete view
[12:52] <VanessaE> (with a proper link to kcontrol somewhere in the menu where it belongs, for regular users who know what they're doing.
[12:52] <maxime_> where dowload automatix
[12:52] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: IC.
[12:52] <Sanne> zorglu_, Digital_Pioneer: there's also a panel applet for the control center, if you would like to have it on the panel.
[12:53] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: OK, thanks a ton!
[12:54] <zorglu_> np
[12:54] <grasshopper> VanessaE: i'm wondering how i can get Kmail on my Menu and taskbar?
[12:55] <VanessaE> livingdaylight/grasshopper: use the KDE Menu editor
[12:55] <LjL> livingdaylight: well, you could add it, but what's wrong with just using Kontact?
[12:56] <VanessaE> (right click on your panel -> Configure Panels -> Menus -> [Edit K Menu]  botton near the middle of the window)
[12:56] <VanessaE> eh, the options reads Configure Panel... sorry
[12:57] <livingdaylight> LjL: huh, i see! Kmail is part of the Kontact package?
[12:57] <LjL> livingdaylight: yeah, Kontact glues together KMail and some other apps
[12:57] <livingdaylight> LjL: thx alot man
[12:58] <LjL> but kontact *is* kmail. it just has kmail as a kpart
[12:58] <livingdaylight> hey, VanessaE, LjL just showed me how Kmail is part of the Kontact package, LOL, so it was there all along :)
[12:58] <Martijn81> yeah, i know ;)
[12:58] <Martijn81> i was just saying
[12:59] <VanessaE> well there you go :)  Shows how much I've played with stuff I don't regularly use :)
[12:59] <zorglu_> tsss tsss ktorrent download sequentially
[12:59] <livingdaylight> we learn everyday - the PowaH of KDE! Mwuahahaha
[12:59] <zorglu_> bouhh to it
[12:59] <LjL> well, nobody says you must not start kmail by itself though -- if you don't like the clutter that kontact adds...
[12:59] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: Hi again, it doesn't fixed the problem ...
[01:00] <VanessaE> lipe:  oh..  sorry :(
[01:00] <VanessaE> that's the best I can offer - can someone else help this guy out?
[01:00] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: don't u know another way to fix it ?
[01:00] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: thx u veeeeery much, anyway !
[01:00] <VanessaE> (enable root logins to cups, assuming a real root account already exists)
[01:00] <Martijn81> zorglu_: i know, someone did a good job with ktorrent the last days
[01:01] <zorglu_> Martijn81: you know the coders of it ?
[01:01] <Martijn81> zorglu_: a few, from online
[01:01] <livingdaylight> I have sun-jave-jre1.5 installed, but using Konqueror a site tells me that plugin is missing?
[01:01] <livingdaylight> do i have to configure?
[01:02] <zorglu_> Martijn81: on irc ?
[01:02] <Martijn81> nope, forums and mail mostly...
[01:02] <Martijn81> good guys really
[01:02] <zorglu_> Martijn81: ok, tell them they should do 'rarest first' that will increase the download speed
[01:03] <cpk2> does kmix ignore the alsamixer settings?
[01:03] <livingdaylight> anyone know where i have to point Konqueror to for the java folder?
[01:03] <zorglu_> Martijn81: and, this one is personnal, add an option to avoid the 'which file you want to download' withing this torrent each time i add one :)
[01:04] <Martijn81> zorglu_: i believe rarest first is what is done currently already, but i will message both :)
[01:04] <zorglu_> Mar
[01:05] <zorglu_> Martijn81: ok :) maybe it is only the stuff im looking which make it appears as sequential :) in anycase message them, they will discard if already done :)
[01:06] <Martijn81> ok no problem
[01:06] <Martijn81> already done
[01:07] <zorglu_> tx
[01:07] <rojanu> hi guys! i am trying to install kubuntu to a machine which has no cdrom & floppy. I have been trying to get it run on a usb pen, so far I have managed to get it run and ask for the language but then it says cdrom cannot be found
[01:08] <lipe_pe> someone can tell me how can i access cups ???
[01:08] <zorglu_> !netboot
[01:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:08] <zorglu_> roj
[01:08] <zorglu_> rojanu: look at the above links
[01:08] <livingdaylight> someone know exactly what i'm pointing Konqueror to for the java plugin?
[01:08] <rojanu> ok, thanks
[01:10] <lipe_pe> someone can tell me how can i know which username and pass i need to set in cups ?!?!?!
[01:11] <ubuntu__> i have a wierd problem
[01:12] <ubuntu__> there is no internet in kubuntu
[01:12] <ubuntu__> if i disconnect my hard drive there is
[01:12] <ubuntu__> does that mean something?
[01:13] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu__: is this an external hard drive
[01:13] <lipe_pe> someone can tell me how can i know which username and pass i need to set in cups ?!?!?!
[01:14] <ubuntu__> no
[01:14] <ubuntu__> its my primary hard drive
[01:14] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu__: are you shutting down before you disconnect it
[01:14] <ubuntu__> yes
[01:14] <livingdaylight> VanessaE: do you use java in Konqueror? i can't get executable
[01:14] <lipe_pe> someone can tell me how can i know which username and pass i need to set in cups ?!?!?!
[01:14] <VanessaE> I don't use konq, sorry
[01:14] <livingdaylight> VanessaE: pointing to /usr/lib/
[01:15] <livingdaylight> ok
[01:15] <livingdaylight> Anyone here use java in Konqueror?
[01:15] <livingdaylight> and know what version of java to install that works in Konqueror?
[01:15] <VanessaE> lipe: it seems no one knows right now the answer to your question - try doing a google search, keywords like "ubuntu cups root login" might be enough
[01:16] <ubuntu__> can you help me out on this one?
[01:16] <ubuntu__> cuz im getting really mad
[01:16] <ubuntu__> and this makes no sence
[01:17] <VanessaE> ubuntu: exactly what error messages do you get?
[01:17] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: ok thx u very much .. GOD bless u
[01:17] <calilasseia> Hello everyone ... I have a keyboard glitch that needs sorting ...
[01:17] <ubuntu__> no error
[01:17] <ubuntu__> it just wont connect
[01:17] <cpk2> ubuntu__: the sun package is sun-java5-bin
[01:17] <ubuntu__> huh?
[01:17] <VanessaE> connect in what way?  as in dhcpd (or was it dhcpcd?) can't get an address?
[01:18] <ubuntu__> i think so
[01:18] <ubuntu__> i dont rememver
[01:18] <cpk2> ubuntu__: wrong person =P
[01:18] <ubuntu__> missing domain i'm pretty sure
[01:18] <VanessaE> eh, missing domain?
[01:18] <cpk2> livingdaylight: the sun package is sun-java5-bin
[01:18] <VanessaE> weird
[01:18] <josh__> and i cant save my default gateway either
[01:18] <VanessaE> we need to see the exact messages
[01:18] <josh__> its 192.168.0.1
[01:19] <josh__> i apply
[01:19] <livingdaylight> cpk2: and that automatically configures with Konqueror?
[01:19] <josh__> restart
[01:19] <josh__> and the settings are gone
[01:19] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i used sun-java-jre1.5
[01:19] <VanessaE> well if you're booting from a liveCD there's nothing you could save to anyway that the CD would read from
[01:19] <cpk2> livingdaylight: no, you will need to tell your system to use the sun java instead of the free java
[01:19] <VanessaE> so it's no surprise that it won't remember that setting
[01:20] <calilasseia> I've lost access to my CTRL-ALT-Fn terminals ... and I think it's a keyboard mapping problem that's at fault ....
[01:20] <cpk2> livingdaylight: sorry its sun-java5-jre
[01:20] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i did use sunjava - sun-java-jre is that free?
[01:20] <gan|y|med> hello @ all
[01:20] <josh__> does that make any sence either?
[01:20] <josh__> the settings wont stay there
[01:20] <livingdaylight> cpk2: lol, that is what i installed
[01:20] <livingdaylight> cpk2: is that the right package?
[01:20] <livingdaylight> cpk2: now how to configure that in Konqueror??
[01:21] <VanessaE> Josh: you're booting from a LiveCD right?
[01:21] <gan|y|med> i ahve trouble playing wmv hd files and normal asf files (w32 codecs are installed), saying: "the file is encrypted" (DRM?) any ideas how to solve this problem?
[01:21] <cpk2> livingdaylight: what does java -version say?
[01:22] <calilasseia> How do I check my current keyboard mappings and if they ARE at fault, change them?
[01:22] <cpk2> livingdaylight: also do you see the sun package when you do update-java-alternatives -l
[01:22] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i don't know what you mean now? :s
[01:22] <cpk2> livingdaylight: using a terminal do those commands
[01:22] <josh__> yeah
[01:22] <josh__> i'm in a live cd right now
[01:23] <VanessaE> calilasseia, if you're sure it's a keyboard mapping issue, then using Kde control center, Regional and Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout
[01:23] <calilasseia> Thanks Vanessa ....
[01:23] <cpk2> gan|y|med: i believe there is no support at all for drm in linux =(
[01:24] <livingdaylight> cpk2: java version "1.4.2"
[01:24] <josh__> omg this is so freaking stupid
[01:24] <livingdaylight> cpk2: what exactly is the second command?
[01:24] <cpk2> livingdaylight: thats old
[01:24] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i thought i had installed 1.5?
[01:24] <VanessaE> Josh: ok, let's try a quick experiment.  With your hard drive connected, boot up from the livecd and get to a terminal.  sudo -i to go to root.    Mount your hard drive and find the /etc folder within it.  rename /etc on your hard drive to something else like /etc-temp
[01:25] <cpk2> livingdaylight: try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[01:25] <VanessaE> then, leaving the hard disk in place, reboot with the liveCD and see what happens
[01:25] <josh__> ok
[01:25] <cpk2> livingdaylight: actually before apt-get do update-java-alternatives -l and see if 1.5 is in there
[01:25] <VanessaE> something tells me the liveCD is referencing your hard disk and using something it finds there to muck up your domain name or so
[01:25] <goofy> whats the commany to mount
[01:25] <VanessaE> be sure when you're done, to put /etc back again.
[01:26] <josh__> but
[01:26] <VanessaE> goofy: mount -t fstype /dev/device /mount/point
[01:26] <josh__> even in a live cd with the drive connected
[01:26] <josh__> there's no internet
[01:26] <josh__> even with linux not installed
[01:26] <malix0> some one else that would test  this http://www.massimofidanza.it/firefox/ thanks
[01:26] <VanessaE> fill in fstype (e.g. nfs, xfs, reiserfs),  /dev/device (e.g. /dev/hdc) and /mount/point (e.g. /mnt)
[01:26] <josh__> when i installed it there was no internet
[01:27] <livingdaylight> cpk2: this is confusing: sun-java5-bin is already the newest version.
[01:27] <VanessaE> Josh: you just said a few minutes ago that withOUT a hard disk installed, you were able to gain access to the 'net
[01:27] <josh__> yeah
[01:27] <josh__> but if the drive is connected but linux isn't installed it still wont work
[01:27] <VanessaE> ok
[01:27] <cpk2> livingdaylight: update-java-alternatives -l  <---- type that in a command line, it will list all the java's you have
[01:27] <calilasseia> Vanessa, it worked! Thanks a bunch!
[01:27] <VanessaE> then you can forget the trick I mentioned :)
[01:27] <goofy> VanessaE: thanks, gui monunting isnt working for some reason
[01:27] <VanessaE> calilasseia, excellent.
[01:27] <josh__> ok well how about i plug it in now?
[01:28] <josh__> its SATA so its got hot-swapping
[01:28] <VanessaE> eh, not all SATA is hot-swappable
[01:28] <VanessaE> (mine isn't)
[01:28] <calilasseia> Bye everyone ...
[01:28] <josh__> well mine is new
[01:28] <cpk2> dont you also need hot swapping built into the kernel?
[01:28] <VanessaE> well if you are sure your machine supports it, plug it in...but keep in mind what cpk2 just said - it might not work anyway
[01:29] <cpk2> which I am not so sure in the prepackaged ubuntu kernel
[01:29] <cpk2> i might be wrong, about kernel support for it though
[01:29] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: I got it, thx for the Lord ! :D ... Could u tell me what is it for kde wallet ?? please
[01:29] <VanessaE> lipe: there's one other change that might help - sudo nano /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and find the "Security Options.,....
[01:29] <VanessaE> ok good :)
[01:29] <goofy> VanessaE: now how do i make it mount at bootup
[01:29] <VanessaE> goofy: add a line to your /etc/fstab
[01:30] <goofy> alright...thanks
[01:30] <josh__> what if its not supported
[01:30] <josh__> can it wreck itself/
[01:30] <VanessaE> device   mountpoint   fstype   options (usually "defaults)  and then two separate 0's
[01:30] <VanessaE> just follow the example therein :)
[01:30] <VanessaE> josh: if the hardware supports it, it'll probably be fine..  if not, yeah you could wreck it.  If the kernel doesn't support hotswap, then it probably just won't do anything
[01:31] <josh__> hmm
[01:31] <josh__> ok
[01:31] <josh__> i'll go in
[01:31] <josh__> with hd connectee
[01:31] <josh__> format the partition
[01:31] <josh__> and reboot
[01:31] <VanessaE> what you need to do it hook the drive back up, reboot with the livecd as before and get us the exact text of those error msgs.  Use Control-S to pause the screen if you need to (Control-Q resumes)
[01:32] <VanessaE> there might be something you're missing if the messages scroll by too quickly.
[01:32] <josh__> m'k
[01:32] <josh__> payce
[01:33] <VanessaE> (this doesn't make any sense to me either, there's no reason at all why the networking subsystem should depend on the presence or absence of a hard disk..  odd)
[01:33] <livingdaylight> cpk2: brb -sorry
[01:34] <VanessaE> (you know something?  I talk way too much)
[01:34] <bomber> agreed
[01:34] <bomber> :-;
[01:35] <VanessaE> :P
[01:35] <cpk2> haha bomber
[01:35] <bomber> hello
[01:36] <bomber> Hawkwind: I got the repository issue all set
[01:37] <bomber> i enabled them through adept which was really easy
[01:38] <livingdaylight> where is the pastebin url?
[01:38] <master__> question
[01:38] <livingdaylight> !paste
[01:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:38] <VanessaE> !pastebin
[01:38] <master__> how can I enter a dns server and have it stay there
[01:39] <VanessaE> master: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[01:39] <VanessaE> add a line like "nameserver 1.2.3.4"
[01:39] <livingdaylight> cpk2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26376/
[01:39] <master__> right now when I do so
[01:39] <master__> and reboot it gets overwritten
[01:39] <VanessaE> hrm
[01:39] <livingdaylight> islam_: salaam maleikum
[01:39] <manuel_> AGENTE 2012
[01:39] <master__> what is hrm VanessaE?
[01:39] <VanessaE> wait
[01:39] <master__> ok thank you VanessaE
[01:40] <livingdaylight> cpk2: you still there? :)
[01:40] <manuel_> AGENTE2012
[01:40] <cpk2> livingdaylight: good, you have sun java installed
[01:40] <islam_> Walaikum As Salaam
[01:40] <VanessaE> well since you're probably on DHCP, best option would be to add a line like the following, to /etc/init.d/bootmisc
[01:40] <cpk2> livingdaylight:  sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun will tell your system to use the sun java
[01:40] <islam_> "None equals Him."
[01:40] <islam_>  http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf
[01:40] <VanessaE> echo "nameserver 1.2.3.4" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[01:40] <livingdaylight> cpk2: thats right strange that java 1.4 showed up?
[01:41] <VanessaE> since the network comes up before bootmisc runs, that's a good place to put that line (be sure you have two >>
[01:41] <master__> thank you
[01:41] <cpk2> livingdaylight: 1.4 was probably the free java
[01:41] <VanessaE> marks, not just one)
[01:41] <livingdaylight> cpk2: thx alot man!
[01:41] <cpk2> livingdaylight: once you do  sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun do java -version again
[01:41] <master__> VanessaE:  thank you very much
[01:41] <VanessaE> yw.
[01:42] <VanessaE> sometimes it's easier to do it the "wrong" way :)
[01:42] <VanessaE> lipe: what did you mean earlier about kdewallet?
[01:42] <lipe_pe> someone can tell me, how can i make a remote access using vnc ?!! please
[01:42] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: i just want to know, please, what is it for ?!
[01:42] <VanessaE> lipe: it stores passwords for other kde apps
[01:42] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i was ahead of you there ;) here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26377/
[01:42] <VanessaE> it's a secure method as it keeps things encrypted and can itself be protected by a master password...  personally I hate it :)
[01:43] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: ehehehehe, thx u very much
[01:43] <lipe_pe> VanessaE:  Vanessa, could u tell me how can i make a remote access with vnc ?!
[01:43] <VanessaE> no clue, I've never touched vnc
[01:44] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: thx u very much !
[01:44] <VanessaE> if I need remote access to a box I usually just use ssh
[01:44] <livingdaylight> cpk2: so, my question remains how does Konqueror read java. I was trying everything i could to point konqueror to the java path /usr/lib/java
[01:44] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: me too... but i just want to test the vnc ...
[01:44] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: it seems to be very cool
[01:45] <VanessaE> try this site:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[01:45] <VanessaE> that looks like what you want
[01:45] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: thx u veeeery much, again ! :D
[01:45] <VanessaE> Google is Your Friend (tm) :)
[01:56] <manuel_> HOLA
[01:56] <VanessaE> hello
[01:56] <livingdaylight> hola manuel_ ! que passa contigo?
[01:57] <manuel_> ESTOY PERDIDO
[01:58] <VanessaE> please don't type in all capitals
[01:58] <livingdaylight> manuel_: ah, bienvenido
[01:58] <manuel_> ok
[01:58] <manuel_> iam lose
[01:58] <livingdaylight> manuel_: #kubuntu-es
[01:59] <livingdaylight> manuel_: yes, you are lost
[01:59] <livingdaylight> manuel_: #ubuntu-es
[01:59] <manuel_> can you helpme
[02:00] <livingdaylight> manuel_: i am even more lost than you, but i am willing to try. Others here canmaybe help too. Best to just ask
[02:00] <livingdaylight> !ask
[02:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:00] <LjL> am i lost?
[02:00] <livingdaylight> LjL: nah...you're one of the pros here ;)
[02:01] <livingdaylight> LjL: i was referring to me only
[02:01] <cpk2> livingdaylight: sorry was doing a simple script to help my laziness
[02:01] <cpk2> livingdaylight: that should tell konq to use sun java now?
[02:01] <LjL> and i was just contributing to the athmosphere of lostness ;P
[02:01] <manuel_> see i dont know how to use this chat
[02:01] <LjL> manuel_: well, you're using it right now...
[02:02] <manuel_> were you come from
[02:02] <josh_> ok
[02:02] <josh_> i was on here a while ago
[02:02] <josh_> about the internet
[02:02] <livingdaylight> cpk2: well...maybe i have to undo something but it isn't reading java just as it is now. I had been tinkering earlier tryingto point konqueror path to java
[02:02] <josh_> its working now
[02:02] <josh_> but only if i reset the dhcp settings
[02:03] <josh_> every boot
[02:03] <josh_> which is stupid
[02:04] <josh_> omg
[02:05] <cpk2> livingdaylight: in konq go to tools > html settings > enable java
[02:06] <manuel_> ivingdaylight_:were you come from
[02:06] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i got that enabled already. I undid everything i had done before with the 'path' thing and now it works!
[02:07] <livingdaylight> manuel_: i dont know, but my name is livingdaylight not ivingdaylight
[02:07] <cpk2> livingdaylight: well good to hear =)
[02:07] <manuel_> escusame
[02:07] <livingdaylight> manuel_: if you want a social chat #ubuntuforums is better, ok? This channel is for real problems related to Kubuntu
[02:08] <livingdaylight> cpk2: hey, you were magic there with those commands - couldn't have done it without you - huge thx!
[02:11] <manuel_> livingdaylight_: ijust install kubuntu for the first time can you tellme were can i find help
[02:12] <livingdaylight> manuel_: sure, check out http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[02:14] <manuel_> livingdaylight_:tankyou and escuse my english iam puertorican
[02:15] <livingdaylight> manuel_: you can find spanish support in #kubuntu-es and #ubuntu-es
[02:16] <livingdaylight> manuel_: type: /join #kubuntu-es or type /join #ubuntu-es and you can get support in spanish
[02:17] <manuel_> #kubuntu-es
[02:17] <livingdaylight> manuel_: no, i said type: /join #kubuntu-es
[02:20] <bobbyd> hi
[02:20] <bobbyd> how do I make it so that I can double-click a shell script and it'll open in a konqueror window?
[02:20] <bobbyd> at the moment, nothing happens when I double-click...
[02:24] <dudu29> #rio
[02:24] <LjL> bobbyd: actually, what i guess happens is that the script is executed...
[02:26] <LjL> bobbyd: you can right click, select "Open with", and choose some editor like Kate. or select "Other", and if you want, from there you can probably make opening with Kate or whatever the default double-click action
[02:26] <LjL> not entirely sure that's a good idea however
[02:27] <Sanne> bobbyd, LjL: I just did a test with a small script, it doesn't get executed here. It does when I call it from a terminal. I guess shell scripts somehow need to be run from a terminal, so right now I don't have a solution.
[02:28] <LjL> Sanne: i did the same test, and nothing happens, which makes me thing it gets executed... what makes you think it doesn't?
[02:28] <LjL> Sanne: hm, you're correct actually
[02:29] <Sanne> LjL: I wrote a script with that does a: 'touch testfile'. I don't see the file created when I double click, but it gets created when I run it from konsole.
[02:30] <LjL> Sanne: well, i'm guessing perhaps konqueror just looks at the fact that it's an executable, and tries to execute it, without looking at the initial #! line, and you get a "not a binary file" error that you can't see...
[02:31] <Sanne> LjL: yeah, that may be.
[02:31] <LjL> (more on the lines of "not an ELF executable" though, just not to be too sloppy with terminology)
[02:32] <dec_> I am new to linux and I was wondering do you have to run gnome applications in gnome and not in kde?  and will it alter the way the application runs?
[02:32] <Sanne> LjL: hmmm, there are options like "run in terminal" when you create an entry in the kde menu or in the launcher. If we could duplicate that, maybe it would work.
[02:32] <livingdaylight> !nvidia
[02:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <Sanne> dec_: you can run Gnome apps in KDE and vice versa, you just would need to install the dependent libraries (which gets installed automatically, if you install through the package manager)
[02:34] <JimmyGreen> gnome / kde apps will run under whichever, if the correct libraries are installed
[02:34] <Sanne> dec_: for example, I use The Gimp, a gtk app, in Kubuntu fine.
[02:34] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[02:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:34] <dec_> I recently copied a dvd using gnomebaker in the kde environment and the copy was not good at all
[02:35] <LjL> Sanne: ah, nevermind... i think the script *gets* executed
[02:35] <dec_> has anyone experienced problems with gnomebaker as far as poor blocky quality?
[02:36] <LjL> Sanne: only, if you touch a file, it touches it in your home dir, and not in the dir the script is actually located (desktop, i'm guessing)
[02:36] <livingdaylight> says that nvidia-kernel-srouce is not needed in ubuntu 'coz its already in the kernel. That obviously applies to Kubuntu aswell?
[02:36] <Sanne> dec_: I won't think the desktop env is the problem, because as I know the burning tools all use the same command line programs as a backend anyway (not sure about gnomebaker, though)
[02:37] <Sanne> LjL: good catch, checking
[02:37] <Sanne> LjL: there it is, ~/testfile
[02:37] <dec_> any suggestions as to a good burning program I have used k3b and gnomebaker and both have fizzled out
[02:38] <Sanne> LjL: so it gets executed, but without any output, because there's nothing to output to.
[02:38] <livingdaylight> says that nvidia-kernel-srouce is not needed in ubuntu 'coz its already in the kernel. That obviously applies to Kubuntu aswell, yes?
[02:39] <livingdaylight> !es
[02:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:39] <dec_> any suggestions as to a good burning program? I have used k3b and gnomebaker and both have fizzled out
[02:39] <Sanne> dec_: I have good success with k3b, never used any other app under Linux, so that's my only recommendation, sorry...
[02:39] <dec_> I keep getting a error code 11 when using k3b and it knocks me off any input
[02:40] <dec_> Oh with the error code is sigsevg
[02:41] <LjL> Sanne: well, we could discuss whether automatically opening a terminal could be a better idea i suppose...
[02:41] <Sanne> livingdaylight: I didn't install nvidia-kernel-source for my nvidia driver, so I guess, yes, it's already available. I needed to install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules for my running kernel (doublecheck on the package names, quoting from memory)
[02:41] <LjL> Sanne: but then, on the other hand, you could have scripts that call kdialog or whatever, for which you actually don't *want* a terminal
[02:41] <dec_> I keep getting the error code 11 sigsevg anybody experience this before
[02:42] <redphoenix> alright, Firefox 2 saves your session and lets you resume it, that'll help me out A LOT, since it crashes so freaking much for me!
[02:42] <Sanne> LjL: yeah, my line of thought also... depends on the kind of script in question, I guess.
[02:42] <livingdaylight> Sanne: thx, for that. the guide didn't say anything about linux-restricted-modules, i don't think
[02:43] <Sanne> livingdaylight: that may be, should be fixed. Usually you have it already installed, *unless* you changed your kernel.
[02:43] <Sanne> livingdaylight: there's a wiki opage that is a bit more detailed, should I look it up for you?
[02:43] <dec_> I keep getting the error code 11 sigsevg anybody experience this before using k3b?
[02:44] <livingdaylight> Sanne: could you? i'd be much obliged
[02:45] <Sanne> livingdaylight: ok, this is actually for Ubuntu/Gnome, but you would get details on the packages to install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:45] <livingdaylight> thx, Sanne
[02:45] <Sanne> livingdaylight: yw, and good luck
[02:46] <livingdaylight> !paste
[02:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:46] <dec_> I keep getting the error code 11 sigsevg anybody experience this before using k3b?
[02:46] <Dark_Vampire> !limewire
[02:46] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:46] <Dark_Vampire> !java
[02:46] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:47] <livingdaylight> Sanne: this is the error i keep getting: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26387/ maybe you can comment?
[02:47] <Sanne> livingdaylight: looking
[02:49] <Sanne> livingdaylight: this just means your xorg.conf got altered and the saved checksum doesn't match. Just do what it says to update the checksum (and maybe make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf just in case before proceeding). After that, type: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[02:50] <Sanne> livingdaylight: after that, again: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:50] <livingdaylight> Sanne: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum is one command?
[02:51] <Sanne> livingdaylight: yes, actually it's two commands, joined by the so called pipe "|". It is one line.
[02:53] <SbCl3> i'm on a live CD, and i just installed bittorrent/bittorrent-gui
[02:53] <SbCl3> what's the name of the program so that i can access it from the shell (doesn't show up on the menu)
[02:53] <SbCl3> ?
[02:54] <livingdaylight> Sanne: ok, and the backup command is? : cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup ?
[02:54] <Sanne> livingdaylight: with a prepended sudo, otherwise looks fine :)
[02:55] <livingdaylight> Sanne: yea... : )
[02:55] <bLaZeD> whats better to use adduser or useradd?
[02:56] <Sanne> livingdaylight: if the xserver doesn't start, you would have to restore the xorg.cong backup from the terminal without the gui.
[02:56] <Hawkwind> bLaZeD: They are both one in the samw
[02:56] <Hawkwind> s/samw/same
[02:56] <Sanne> bLaZeD: on of those is a friendly frontend to the other... dunno which is which though
[02:56] <bLaZeD> Hawkwind, ahh good deal
[02:56] <bLaZeD> Sanne, ahh
[02:57] <bLaZeD> thank u both
[02:57] <bLaZeD> =)
[02:58] <josh_> !mp3
[02:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <livingdaylight> livingdaylight is gonna do ctl+alt+backspace - wish me luck
[02:59] <Sanne> livingdaylight: good luck!
[02:59] <livingdaylight> :)
[02:59] <bLaZeD> hmm am i crazy or did when u ran useradd it asked for the users real name,login name,password,and if it should be added to any groups and such
[02:59] <rance> !cups
[02:59] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:59] <bLaZeD> !adduser
[02:59] <ubotu> adduser: Add and remove users and groups. In component main, is important. Version 3.80ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 796 kB
[03:00] <bLaZeD> !useradd
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about useradd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <bLaZeD> anyone know what this means ?... adduser: Only one or two names allowed
[03:02] <redphoenix> anybody here upgrade to Firefox 2 RC yet?
[03:02] <Sanne> bLaZeD: sorry, I only used adduser for adding my normal user to another group, which was easy. But try 'man adduser' if you haven't already, it should tell you the options.
[03:03] <bLaZeD> Sanne, yea i got a weird error with adduser so im now resorting to the gui way :/ ....but i think its gonna work
[03:03] <UniX> hi everyone
[03:03] <bLaZeD> Sanne, but thanks for the info
[03:04] <Sanne> bLaZeD: heh, sometimes the Gui is just nice and comfy. ;) You're welcome.
[03:04] <UniX> can anyone help me out with super karamba?
[03:05] <UniX> can anyone help me out with super karamba?
[03:06] <UniX> who can help me out with super karamba?
[03:06] <Dark_Vampire> !limewire
[03:06] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[03:08] <sorush20> !udf
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <flaccid> is kde 3.5.5 available in any ubuntu sources yet
[03:09] <sorush20> how do I write to udf format cdrw in kubuntu?
[03:09] <UniX> how do you i install super karamba under kubuntu?
[03:10] <Sanne> night all
[03:10] <flaccid> UniX: k3b udf support is ok now afaik
[03:10] <jmichaelx> flaccid: yes
[03:10] <flaccid> jmichaelx: which source
[03:10] <UniX> flaccid what do you mean with afaik>
[03:10] <UniX> ??
[03:11] <jmichaelx> flaccid: the first source listed on kubuntu.org
[03:11] <flaccid> as far as i know
[03:12] <UniX> ok what does k3b udf support is ok mean @flaccid?
[03:12] <flaccid> jmichaelx: hmm can't find a source listed on the homepage
[03:12] <flaccid> UniX: dont understand
[03:13] <jmichaelx> brb
[03:13] <UniX> flaccid with did u mean by this whole sentences? UniX: k3b udf support is ok now afaik
[03:13] <flaccid> UniX: i think k3b can do udf. in the past the udf support was not complete, but i think it is now
[03:14] <UniX> oic
[03:14] <UniX> i am a newbee could u please explain me what k3b and udf. stand for?
[03:15] <flaccid> kde3 burner
[03:15] <MasterEvilAce> Anyone here installed Vista before?
[03:16] <flaccid> universal disk format
[03:16] <flaccid> but from what i have read udf support in linux is still patchy
[03:16] <KBTU> what does k3b and udf hast to do with super karamba?
[03:17] <KBTU> has
[03:17] <pacman> flaccid: I almost got it working right...heh
[03:18] <flaccid> pacman: what working ?
[03:18] <pacman> flaccid: torcs
[03:18] <flaccid> cool
[03:18] <flaccid> KBTU: no idea
[03:18] <pacman> flaccid: the fps is still wicked slow
[03:18] <flaccid> oh i'm talking to the wrong person
[03:19] <flaccid> UniX all that was meant for sorush20
[03:19] <KBTU> ok
[03:20] <flaccid> UniX: sorry ignore what i was saying, it was meant for sorush20. to install superkaramba install the superkaramba package with your favourite package manager
[03:20] <KBTU> can anyone help me out with how to install super karamba? I tried it over the console but it says erroe
[03:20] <KBTU> error
[03:20] <flaccid> eg. sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[03:20] <rance> im having a little trouble with ssh its listening on my external interface (nmap confirmed) but sshing INTO my box doesnt work, the error I get is "Permission Denied" but I dont understand why?
[03:20] <flaccid> KBTU what is the error
[03:20] <rance> I can ssh to the box from an INTERNAL interface
[03:21] <fildo> well i hope so rance
[03:22] <Dark_Vampire> uhm I've got a problem installing sun-java5
[03:22] <rance> I hope so what?
[03:22] <jmichaelx> flaccid: did you find that source? i have 3.5.5 installed now
[03:22] <KBTU> first i type cd /home/thk/superkaramba-0.39
[03:22] <flaccid> jmichaelx: there was no source listed on the homepage
[03:22] <fildo> that u can ssh to a box from an interface
[03:22] <KBTU> so far so gud
[03:23] <rance> oh, ok
[03:23] <jmichaelx> flaccid: just click on the link below the announcement of 3.5.5
[03:23] <Dark_Vampire> he cant find the package and somebody told me i should allow universe packages
[03:23] <flaccid> KBTU: 0.40 is available from ubuntu sources
[03:23] <rance> well, I dont see why its listening on the external interface but not validating user passwords
[03:23] <Dark_Vampire> but in the adept manager the "view" menu points are grey and i cant click them
[03:23] <jmichaelx> flaccid: i just used deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main
[03:24] <binaryflow> Is something wrong with the dapper plf source on freecontrib.org?
[03:24] <binaryflow> apt-get says public key is not available.
[03:25] <KBTU> where do i find the ubuntu sources i am running kubuntu? @ flaccid?
[03:26] <fildo> what u after KBTU
[03:26] <fildo> source.list generator ?
[03:26] <fildo> nice, kde 3.5.5 out
[03:26] <KBTU> i have to restart will be back
[03:26] <flaccid> KBTU: its in the main source, so you should just be able to sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[03:28] <flaccid> sweet upgrading kde now
[03:30] <fildo> 208m
[03:30] <fildo> tho
[03:30] <flaccid> yay 2h download
[03:31] <dennister> oops...didn't realize I was still logged in
[03:31] <fildo> thats a bad thing ? dennister
[03:32] <dennister> heheh...dinner party is over now
[03:32] <jmichaelx> flaccid: dial-up?
[03:33] <dennister> does anyone know if the 3.5.4 version of kde is going to be n the repositories soon?
[03:33] <flaccid> jmichaelx: might as well be. its called telstra bigpond rip off adsl
[03:33] <jmichaelx> lol
[03:34] <fildo> ehhe
[03:34] <fildo> a pigeon would be quicker
[03:35] <fildo> ok time to reboot
[03:37] <Homer> KDE 3.5.5 is out?
[03:37] <binaryflow> flaccid: how are you updating kde?  What source are you using?
[03:37] <bioticpro> anyone know how to make the "Windows" key on the keyboard not be a modifier, and actually do a command itself?
[03:38] <flaccid> binaryflow: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[03:38] <fildo> Homer: affirmative
[03:38] <fildo> too much effort
[03:39] <fildo> :p
[03:39] <flaccid> i guess its another day of procrastinating for me
[03:40] <Homer> is there a changelog?
[03:40] <fildo> soon we procrastinate together!
[03:40] <rojikaru> I'm already procastinating.
[03:40] <Homer> nm
[03:40] <Homer> http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.5.php
[03:40] <flaccid> yep
[03:42] <Homer> yay more khtml imporvements
[03:42] <Homer> go go go
[03:42] <binaryflow> Never mind about my plf question - ubuntu plf is shut down.
[03:47] <Dark_Vampire> why do start kate if i try to run a shell skript?
[03:48] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: kate
[03:48] <Dark_Vampire> kate is a text editor
[03:49] <flaccid> indeed :)
[03:49] <KaiHanari> Dark_Vampire: windows
[03:49] <KaiHanari> :/
[03:49] <Dark_Vampire> ???
[03:49] <KaiHanari> lol
[03:49] <flaccid> its location is /usr/bin/kate
[03:50] <KaiHanari> Dark_Vampire, thought you were a bot
[03:50] <Dark_Vampire> oh :D
[03:50] <Dark_Vampire> no I'm not
[03:51] <Dark_Vampire> but i tryed to run shell scripts, but when i do, kate opens and the script and nothing else...
[03:51] <InteliWasp> !ati
[03:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:51] <InteliWasp> !botsnack
[03:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:52] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm having a really weird problem with ubuntu....
[03:52] <Random_Transit> i have various apps starting to memory leak for no good reason
[03:53] <Random_Transit> namely, Amarok, Firefox, GAIM, Nautilus, and KTorrent
[03:53] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: i think thats because its waiting to close kate before it executes the next line?
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i've never had a problem with them
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Firefox, kind of but that's after heavy use.
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> gaim, no.
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Ktorrent, I haven't used in a few months
[03:53] <Random_Transit> could this be a kernel issue?
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> the biggest problem I have in compiz
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Random_Transit: i doubt it
[03:54] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: What makes you think all those apps have memory leaks ?
[03:55] <Dark_Vampire> flaccid: no i mean, if i run a shell script that should install sthg, why opens kate at all and no installation is done?
[03:55] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: consult the author of the shell script :)
[03:55] <flaccid> i dont' know what is in the shell script..
[03:56] <Random_Transit> because i'll be working away and suddenly, things start to lag like crazy....so much so, that i can't even move the mouse or type
[03:56] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: If it was a memory leak in those apps, everyone would experience that
[03:56] <Random_Transit> hmm
[03:56] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: Sounds like a hardware issue possibly
[03:57] <Hawkwind> I use ktorrent, firefox and gaim and don't have those issues.  Nautilus you'd have to talk to the Ubuntu/Gnome guys in #Ubuntu
[03:57] <Random_Transit> hawkwind....i also use Gentoo on the same machine...and i've yet to see these issues on my gentoo install
[03:57] <Dark_Vampire> flaccid: but this happend with the Firefox installation, too.. but firefox i could install with apt-get install ...
[03:57] <flaccid> Random_Transit: its a different machine, different install etc. can't compare them
[03:57] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: How much RAM is in the box and what are the specs of the box ?
[03:57] <Momal> What is the best way to free up physical memory under linux?.. seems my box is chewing up 1.8gb lol. I have few things running but when I look in the process list via system guard they don't seem to use that much and when I close them the memory just goes to another thing lol.
[03:58] <Random_Transit> flaccid, it's the same machine
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Momal: You don't want to
[03:58] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: need more info
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Momal: Linux handles RAM completely different than Windows, meaning.......
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Momal: The more RAM that is being used, the better since Linux puts it all in cache
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Momal: It frees the RAM as the system or apps need it
[03:58] <Momal> Hawkwind: So if I try to run vmware and use 1gb of ram linux will auto sort it out for me ?
[03:59] <flaccid> Random_Transit: ok. still can't really assume anything yet. could still be hardware...
[03:59] <Hawkwind> Momal: So if you don't reboot for 3 months, you could RAM cached from a few weeks ago possibly depending on what you've done with your system in that time
[03:59] <Random_Transit> hawkwind: 900Mhz AMD Athlon, 320 MB RAM, 3 HDDs: 100GB, 80GB, 20GB, respectively
[03:59] <Hawkwind> Momal: Absolutely
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Momal: *nix uses all the memory, but not to run things kinda to prepare the system for running apps
[03:59] <Dark_Vampire> flaccid: but a other question i got more important for the moment is: how can i allow to get multiverse things in adept manager? the view menu is all grey and i cant click the menu points there
[03:59] <Momal> awsome thanks :)
[03:59] <Random_Transit> i've been using ubuntu for over a year, and haven't seen problems until now
[03:59] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: That's probably part of the problem.  Try using a light weight window manager like fluxbox or Xfce
[04:00] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: is multiverse in your sources.list
[04:00] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: Though 320MB can KDE, preferably best to run it on a machine with 512MB if possible.  The more RAM the better of course.  And depending on what else you are doing that little bit of RAM can cause problems
[04:00] <rich_> hello
[04:00] <Random_Transit> hawkwind...again. i've been using GNOME and KDE for years on this very machine
[04:00] <Dark_Vampire> flaccid: how do i know that?
[04:00] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: That means absolutely nothing, honestly
[04:01] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: Have you run memtest for atleast 12 - 16 hours to see that your RAM isn't going bad ?
[04:01] <rich_> TALK TO ME PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:01] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: i think its this in the sources.list: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[04:01] <Random_Transit> no i haven't
[04:01] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: That would be a good place to start
[04:01] <Random_Transit> besides memtest, might it be a good idea to increase my swap space?
[04:02] <flaccid> hardware has been known to randomly die
[04:02] <Momal> rich_: hi... don't talk in caps :)... your best just to say your problem :p
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: I'd install smartmontools and run the smartd service to check your drive status regularly as well.  Could be a dying harddrive causing issues
[04:02] <flaccid> Random_Transit: nope. linux manages memory fine.
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: How much swap space do you have ?
[04:02] <Random_Transit> 1gig
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: That is way too much swap space as it is
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: So the answer is no, don't increase the size of swap
[04:02] <Dark_Vampire> flaccid: the problem is i cant open any of the menus in the view menu in adept manager and so i cant even allow multiverse...
[04:03] <Hawkwind> !repos > Dark_Vampire
[04:03] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Read what the bot just told you in pm
[04:03] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: let me have a look, you probably have to add it manually yourself to sources.list
[04:03] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Follow the instructions to get all the sources you need
[04:03] <tomaz> ppl, anyone here having a problem with konqueror 3.5.5?
[04:03] <Dark_Vampire> thanks hawkwind
[04:03] <Hawkwind> tomaz: Define your problem as we can't read your mind
[04:04] <rich_> hello
[04:04] <Hawkwind> rich_: If you have a question, please feel free to just ask
[04:04] <tomaz> yup, i just upgraded the system to 3.5.5,
[04:04] <rich_> i am shy to
[04:04] <tomaz> and when i'm viewing a folder using the filter to search it's contents
[04:04] <Random_Transit> well. thanks for the memtest idea, hawkwind....btw, do i need to let my system idle while that runs?
[04:04] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: that is weird
[04:04] <Hawkwind> rich_: Then we won't be able to help you unless we know what you need help with
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: It's best to run it over night while you sleep
[04:05] <tomaz> if i exit the folder, and return to it, the konqueror crashes
[04:05] <Random_Transit> ok
[04:05] <tomaz> anyone can try this to see if crashes too?
[04:05] <tomaz> (dapper drake)
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, I don't have 3.5.5 in Dapper installed.  I'm still using 3.5.3 as I had issues with 3.5.4
[04:06] <VanessaE> I dunno about konq but the latest firefox build that came in earlier today crashes any time you try to open the preferences dialog
[04:06] <ironfroggy> any idea why Dynamic Playlists have stopped working in Amarok?
[04:06] <VanessaE> (on edgy, though...crashes are to be expected for now)
[04:06] <Dark_Vampire> Hawkwind: then theres another problem... Manage Repositories is grey and unclickable, too :(
[04:06] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: Latest firefox in Dapper today ??
[04:06] <ironfroggy> they just show the last playlist as already played and repopulating them does not work.
[04:06] <VanessaE> hawk: in edgy
[04:06] <rich_> can some1 private chat me????????????????????????????
[04:06] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Edit the file manually
[04:06] <VanessaE> think it came in today or maybe it was last night
[04:06] <rich_> can some1 private chat me????????????????????????????
[04:06] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: Hah, wrong channel then.
[04:06] <VanessaE> rich, talk here please
[04:06] <tomaz> yeh, but i'm on dapper
[04:06] <Hawkwind> rich_: Please stop.  Ask your question here so everyone can see and help you
[04:07] <VanessaE> hawk: oh, nono not trying to get help, just tossing that out as a comparison
[04:07] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: Right, but you can't compare those unfortunately :P
[04:07] <VanessaE> heh
[04:07] <VanessaE> true
[04:07] <Dark_Vampire> Hawkwind: i dont know how to... I'm a real newbee :(
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Type that into a terminal
[04:07] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: i do not know why its greyed out
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Are you running Dapper or Edgy ?
[04:08] <Dark_Vampire> edgy
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Bingo!
[04:08] <Hawkwind> It's a known issue in Edgy
[04:08] <flaccid> ah yeah bingo!
[04:08] <flaccid> hehe
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Might ask in #Ubuntu+1
[04:08] <rich_> OK how do i get the girl every likes
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Also take note, Edgy is still not final, so you shouldn't be using it yet if you're not familiar with how things work
[04:08] <flaccid> rich_: you kidnap her
[04:08] <Hawkwind> rich_: Wrong channel to be asking that in
[04:09] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Edgy won't be released for another 2 weeks.  It's still beta, meant to break quite often
[04:09] <Dark_Vampire> hawkwind: somebody told me yesterday that edgy is almost done and it would be good for me :(
[04:09] <VanessaE> Well, I'm one girl everyone seems to like :)  but I'm taken, so go away
[04:10] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: You shouldn't have listened to them if you are new to Linux or Ubuntu
[04:10] <rich_> how do i change chann???????????????????????els
[04:10] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: If you've been using Linux a year or so and know what you're doing, then that is highly possible
[04:10] <Hawkwind> rich_: /join #Kubuntu-OffTopic
[04:10] <Hawkwind> rich_: Type that exactly
[04:10] <flaccid> rich_: /part #kubuntu then /join #channel
[04:10] <Hawkwind> /join #Kubuntu-OffTopic
[04:11] <Dark_Vampire> Hawkwind: i see... but i told them that I'm new on linux... well...
[04:12] <flaccid> can't do much about misinformation
[04:12] <VanessaE> btw, is KDE 3.5.5 worth the upgrade from 3.5.4?
[04:12] <tomaz> VanessaE: i'm having crashes in konqueror with 3.5.5
[04:13] <VanessaE> hm, ok
[04:13] <VanessaE> well I'll wait on it *reads release notes anyway*
[04:13] <tomaz> and when i'm viewing a folder using the filter to search it's contents, f i exit the folder, and return to it, the konqueror crashes
[04:20] <foodcoman> Hello.
[04:20] <Digital_Pioneer> Can I use the "Convert to Christian Ubuntu" script on Kubuntu?
[04:21] <foodcoman> My update to 3.5.5 messed up my fonts.  They are rough.  Any tips?
[04:22] <VanessaE> dare I ask what that script does?
[04:22] <VanessaE> foodcoman, have you checked that antialiasing didn't get turned off?
[04:22] <foodcoman> Checking.
[04:22] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Do you know who it was that told you that information ?
[04:22] <foodcoman> Its enabled.
[04:23] <tomaz> my fonts are beautiful in 3.5.5
[04:23] <tomaz> but konqueror crashes
[04:23] <Dark_Vampire> Hawkwind: intellikey and somebody else here
[04:23] <Hawkwind> Exactly what I figured
[04:23] <tomaz> foodcoman, can you check something to me? check if the konqueror has the same bug here?
[04:23] <tomaz> open and select a folder, and filter it's contents.  exit the folder, and return to it, the konqueror crashes
[04:24] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Not to be rude, but intelikey isn't someone you should listen to when it comes to what version of the distro you should use.  He's a bit more experienced, but he also didn't know that Edgy is still in beta
[04:24] <foodcoman> I changed antialiasing to medium and had to open a new app.
[04:24] <foodcoman> Looks  better.
[04:24] <VanessaE> oh good
[04:24] <flaccid> convert to christain script wtf
[04:25] <foodcoman> I think that version installs squid with Dans Gaurdian.
[04:25] <foodcoman> Filtering proxy.
[04:26] <Dark_Vampire> Hawkwind: well i told him that I've seen thats still in beta but he told me then that its done in 2 weeks so that this 2 weeks wouldnt be to worry about.....-.-
[04:26] <Blacken> Dark_Vampire: Anyone who tells you that sort of thing doesn't have your best interests in mind.
[04:27] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: That is simply and completely wrong information.  I totally agree with what Blacken just stated
[04:27] <Blacken> Hawkwind: Please repeat that, I don't think I've heard that before. ;)
[04:27] <Momal> lol!.... yea 2 weeks in the linux world can mean a whole lot...
[04:27] <foodcoman> VanessaE: Thanks for the antialiasing tip.
[04:28] <flaccid> more to the point, why upgrade now to a beta when the final is avail in 2 weeks
[04:28] <foodcoman> tomaz: doing your test
[04:28] <tomaz> tanks
[04:28] <VanessaE> you're welcome, but you found the fix yourself :)
[04:29] <Hawkwind> Blacken: I forgot what I said, sorry :P
[04:29] <foodcoman> tomaz: Cant get your crash.
[04:29] <VanessaE> I plan to stick with dapper for a while longer (a few months prolly), just to make sure edgy's good and ironed out first. :)
[04:30] <flaccid> Vanessa: same
[04:30] <flaccid> such a lovely name too VanessaE
[04:30] <VanessaE> thanks
[04:31] <VanessaE> oops
[04:31] <VanessaE> well now that said, I'll say a proper goodbye.  Night all :)
[04:32] <tomaz> hum... then is some problem here
[04:32] <tomaz> but what could do this problem?
[04:34] <physicsnick> dear #kubuntu, i accidentally deleted /etc/inetd.conf. is this a terribly important file? is there a way to undelete it? can someone with kubuntu pastebin theirs for me?
[04:35] <dennister> Lord, writing emails can take forever when there are sensitive topics...g'nite all
[04:35] <josh_> !xgl
[04:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:36] <Momal> that should probly be updated to say beryl instead of compiz
[04:36] <Hawkwind> !beryl
[04:36] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[04:37] <Momal> there is a channel for beryl | #beryl |
[04:37] <Hawkwind> physicsnick: You could remove xinetd and reinstall it and get that file back possibly
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Momal: But our support channel is #Ubuntu-XGL
[04:37] <Momal> arr my bad :p
[04:38] <physicsnick> hawkwind, it's not xinetd it's inetd
[04:38] <Momal> Hawkwind: were you the one that suggested "Wink" to me ?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> physicsnick: It comes from xinetd though
[04:38] <Hawkwind> Momal: Possibly
[04:38] <physicsnick> ah
[04:38] <physicsnick> i'm purging xinetd now
[04:38] <physicsnick> thanks
[04:39] <Momal> Hawkwind: you know how to get to work? lol.. seems vncsever wont start for it... and will it work when im running xgl ?
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Probably won't work with XGL, nor vnc I'd assume
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Momal: Big article on Wink on linux.com just yesterday or the day before
[04:40] <foodcoman> I have 2 packages that wont update: kdeedu and kdenetwork.  Anyone know the command that makes dpkg clean stuff up?
[04:40] <Momal> oh i'll have a look for it thanks :)..
[04:40] <Hawkwind> Momal: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=7589
[04:40] <Hawkwind> Momal: Sorry, it was on madpenguin.org actually
[04:40] <Momal> Hawkwind: Thanks
[04:41] <Hawkwind> No problem
[04:41] <Momal> lol my bad on the vnc was thinking another program :p
[04:43] <Momal> Hawkwind: seems I just get segmentation fault when trying to run :(
[04:58] <Dark_Vampire> !java
[04:58] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:59] <josh_> #ubuntu-xgl
[04:59] <danny500> does anybody know were I can find the file for aMSN that has a record of my loggin passwords?
[05:01] <danny500> anybody?
[05:02] <Hawkwind> I don't know anyone who even uses aMSN.  Most people use Gaim
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Or kopete
[05:02] <danny500> I know
[05:04] <flaccid> danny500: look in ~/.amsn
[05:04] <danny500> yeah
[05:04] <flaccid> i think the passwords are hashed
[05:08] <Momal> Anyway to make programs share the audio?... on the occassion programs like amarok, kaffeine, vlc their audio stop when running another program that uses sound :S
[05:08] <Momal> and I have to restart it to get sound again
[05:08] <Hawkwind> Momal: Does your soundcard support multiple channels ?
[05:09] <h> !de
[05:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:09] <h> !java
[05:09] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:09] <HELP> hey guys
[05:10] <flaccid> some audio progams require for access to the audio card, like amarok
[05:10] <flaccid> if the card isn't multiplex, then can't do anything
[05:10] <helppapa> i just powered up my external harddrive via USB and im trying to write to it but it doesnt give me permission. its a windows partition and right now im on kubuntu live cd
[05:10] <helppapa> anyone got any ideas?
[05:10] <flaccid> for=full
[05:10] <neddiW> http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.5.php
[05:11] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  you mean a "NTFS" partition? or is it vfat?
[05:11] <flaccid> !mount
[05:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:11] <helppapa> im pretty sure its NTFS
[05:11] <Momal> hawkwind: I assume so.... its on my mobo (gigabyte k8n sli pro).... says 8channel audio on the website for its info
[05:11] <flaccid> !ntfswrite
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfswrite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <helppapa> hm?
[05:11] <helppapa> r u giving me clues flaccid? lol
[05:11] <flaccid> !ntfsprogs
[05:11] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (dapper), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB
[05:12] <flaccid> yeah i'm trying to find the write ntfs entry
[05:12] <helppapa> oh thank you
[05:12] <flaccid> writing to ntfs is still experimental ad not recommended really
[05:12] <helppapa> im simply trying to save a file from the browser into it but i cant =\
[05:12] <flaccid> but you can do it
[05:12] <helppapa> ohh
[05:12] <flaccid> ntfs read is no problem, write is different
[05:12] <flaccid> !fuse
[05:12] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:12] <helppapa> yea =\ i tried changing permissions on properties no go either
[05:12] <flaccid> there it is
[05:13] <helppapa> thanx man
[05:13] <flaccid> np
[05:13] <flaccid> the mount probably requires masking
[05:13] <helppapa> when you say its not safe does that mean everything can be whiped or something by mistake?
[05:13] <helppapa> lol
[05:13] <flaccid> i would expect that as a worst case scenario
[05:13] <helppapa> oh ok thanx
[05:13] <flaccid> now if only windows could read ext* fs
[05:14] <helppapa> haha
[05:14] <helppapa> that would be sweet
[05:14] <flaccid> yeah never will happen :(
[05:15] <helppapa> hey do you have any idea why OS tables on windows look so sharp and on linux they usually look kinda bland?
[05:15] <helppapa> just wondering why windows gets such sharp tables
[05:15] <helppapa> a table should be a table...
[05:15] <flaccid> what sort of table? a coffee table, a poke table?
[05:16] <helppapa> lol
[05:16] <helppapa> like the tables used with a hex color for simple things like window borders
[05:16] <helppapa> or the close button up and down scroll arrows
[05:16] <helppapa> etc
[05:16] <flaccid> using a good theme eliminants the blandness
[05:16] <helppapa> just the ones on the OS itself
[05:16] <flaccid> linux != windows
[05:16] <helppapa> hm i guess i havnt come across any good ones
[05:17] <helppapa> none of them seem sharp
[05:17] <helppapa> oh well hehe
[05:17] <flaccid> most of them look better than windows
[05:17] <flaccid> helppapa: http://kde-look.org go sick..
[05:18] <helppapa> yea im on that one right now
[05:18] <helppapa> i think
[05:18] <helppapa> the top looks great, definitely better than windows
[05:18] <helppapa> but thats an image though..
[05:18] <flaccid> with a bit of exploring you'll find what you want
[05:18] <helppapa> the tables is what im wondering about. just the basic hex # behind a sized table
[05:19] <flaccid> i still don't know what these tables are you are talking about
[05:19] <helppapa> like the grey parts
[05:19] <helppapa> usually
[05:19] <flaccid> yes you can change the colour of them
[05:19] <helppapa> the scrolling buttons and arrows
[05:20] <helppapa> hm
[05:20] <helppapa> thanx :] 
[05:20] <flaccid> !themes
[05:20] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:20] <flaccid> something to spend hours playing with^^^
[05:20] <helppapa> hehe
[05:21] <flaccid> you could make it exactly how you want if you wanna learn how to create themes/styles
[05:22] <helppapa> yea im thinking about contributing me stuff i do art but no developing at all =\
[05:22] <flaccid> heh so sick of seing this in my konsole ** (process:4732): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[05:22] <Dr_willis> I want a GEOS theme. :)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> like the old C64 Geos
[05:22] <flaccid> havnt you made that yet Dr_willis
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Nope.. Been working on my PORN icons
[05:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:22] <flaccid> hehe
[05:23] <vilefridge> It looks like GRUB installs by default to the first HD.  Is it possible to install GRUB to hdc instead of hda?  What would this command look like?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> well can a collection of 'rear ends' be considered porn if they are icon sized?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> vilefridge,  alternative install cd - has that option.  dont think its doable with the live cd.
[05:23] <flaccid> dunno
[05:23] <Dr_willis> after an inatsll you can edit the  menu.lst I think to have update-grub install it somewhere else
[05:24] <Dr_willis> or learn all about grub and do it manually
[05:24] <vilefridge> Dr_willis: alright thanks, I'll look into that :)
[05:25] <Dr_willis> grub is one of those things worth learning ALL about
[05:29] <flaccid> !find egg
[05:29] <ubotu> Found: kfouleggs, egg, eggdrop, eggdrop-data, gcpegg (and 1 others)
[05:30] <flaccid> can someone add http://blog.siliconchaos.net/articles/2006/06/20/my-desktop-got-eggd to ubotu under eggd or something?
[05:30] <Hawkwind> What is eggd ?
[05:30] <flaccid>  ** (process:4337): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL failed
[05:30] <flaccid> a but/error
[05:33] <Hawkwind> !eggd
[05:33] <ubotu> If you are getting errors similar to these: ** (process:4337): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL failed  Please take a look at this page for the fix: http://blog.siliconchaos.net/articles/2006/06/20/my-desktop-got-eggd
[05:33] <Hawkwind> flaccid: That good for ya ?
[05:33] <flaccid> legend
[05:33] <flaccid> lots of people with be happy with that
[05:34] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I agree.  That's a nice helpful bit of information
[05:34] <Hawkwind> I get those errors as well and am now about to see if this fixes it :)
[05:35] <flaccid> sweet
[05:35] <flaccid> i only just stumbled across that site from the mailing list archive
[05:36] <Momal> thats weird.. as soon as you said about that error I just installed something with adept and saw it in the console window :S
[05:37] <Hawkwind> Hmmm, I should actually post that onto my http://LinuxForDummies.org/ forums as well
[05:40] <flaccid> jeje
[05:46] <flaccid> i just upgraded to kde 3.5.5 and my kdm configuration was overwritten. why did it do that?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> I would guess it backed up the original  somewhere..
[05:48] <flaccid> what is the config filename?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> locate kdm | less
[05:49] <flaccid> kdmrc i assume
[05:49] <flaccid> Dr_willis: that will reveal a lot
[05:49] <Dr_willis>   /etc/kde3/kdm
[05:49] <Dr_willis> It showed me where all the kdm configs are at...
[05:49] <Dr_willis> so YeS it did reveal a lot.
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Linux tip#1 - Think. :)
[05:49] <flaccid> my question was actually why
[05:50] <flaccid> linux tip#1 read question
[05:50] <Dr_willis> i would guess that the package mantiker dident put in a 'ask to overwrite' because as far as i have seen Very few config files are treated that way
[05:51] <Dr_willis> the only one i know of that is treated specially is the xorg.conf file
[05:51] <Dr_willis> There may be others.. but ive never seen  apt-get ask about them.
[05:52] <flaccid> it asked about a couple , but that was coz i was installing while kde running so the conf was overwritten during installation and asked to keep old or replace with new
[05:52] <flaccid> but not kdmrc
[05:52] <flaccid> also my konsole font has gone bold
[05:52] <Dr_willis> I think i saw it once ask about the samba config.
[05:52] <flaccid> and i can't get it to go to regular for anything
[05:53] <Dr_willis> I knwo the redhat/rpm system  keeps tracks by just backing up the altered configs to somename.backup.date (i think)
[05:54] <flaccid> yeah
[05:54] <flaccid> thing is if the new version has new config directives, how can it enable those and mantain existing config
[05:54] <Dr_willis> its an interesting problem of what to do.. Gentoo lets you compare the changes/see the diff's and so on.
[05:56] <flaccid> so package managment is far from perfect and its 2006..
[05:57] <Dr_willis> I doubt if it ever will be perfect. :P
[05:57] <Search4Lancer> arrrgh there are two packages that it won't even let me remove... I couldn't install them because something went wrong, and now it won't let me remove them, it's telling me I should reinstall them before removing them
[05:57] <Dr_willis> hmm...
[05:58] <Search4Lancer> I don't remember what for files it was before that I edited to somewhat fix broken packages and let me use the package system again
[05:59] <Dr_willis> ive resorted to using 'aptitude' to fix a few issues simile rto that in the past.. it seems a bit more agressive about fixing things.
[06:00] <Dink> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/805018  <---- Konqueror crash... Happened after recent update... Anyone have ideas or experienced it ??
[06:01] <Search4Lancer> well I don't have much of a way to install aptitude right now.... or anything, for that matter (or maybe I can, lemme check)
[06:01] <Dink> Keeps saying unable to load all the "view" modules
[06:01] <Dink> Detailed, list, tree etc
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Quick question. Can I unrar a Volumed rar file?
[06:02] <Dink> maybe i need a reboot ?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I thought aptitude was installed by default. :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> !rar
[06:02] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:02] <Dr_willis> unrar -e whatever.r01 or whatever the first one is.
[06:02] <Search4Lancer> ah, duh, aptitude is already installed...
[06:02] <Dr_willis> or is it 'e'
[06:03] <Dr_willis> heh 'unrar-free' installed the binary named 'unrar-free'
[06:03] <Dr_willis> but then it says  Try `unrar --help' or `unrar --usage' for more information.
[06:03] <flaccid> is it symlinked?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> i got no 'unrar'  its called 'unrar-free'          /usr/bin/unrar-free
[06:04] <flaccid> what boobs
[06:04] <Dr_willis> I seem to recall having an unrar once...
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info unrar-free
[06:04] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[06:05] <XTREME06> hallo
[06:05] <Dr_willis> !info upn
[06:05] <ubotu> Package upn does not exist in any distro I know
[06:05] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[06:05] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Damn wasn't that fixed?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  apraently not
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: can you fix it?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  cp unrar-free unrar
[06:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:06] <Dr_willis> and its fixed..or ln -s
[06:06] <DaSkreech> NO I mean click onthe link in !rar
[06:06] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:07] <Dr_willis> !rar
[06:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:07] <DaSkreech> See?
[06:07] <Dink> unrar is in multiverse/utils
[06:08] <DaSkreech> I have unrar :)
[06:08] <DaSkreech> It's just that ark doesn't seem to like Volumes
[06:09] <Dr_willis> that link works for me.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> wine winrar.exe
[06:09] <Dr_willis> :) works also,.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Really?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> That works?
[06:09] <Dr_willis>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:10] <Dr_willis> i was just there
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Yes that's not what Ubotu says though
[06:10] <Dink> brb going to reboot... konqueror having SIGABRT issues
[06:10] <Dr_willis> I just right clicked on the ubotus link that it said....
[06:10] <Dink> DaSkreech ive had no problem in the past with unrar/ark with volumes
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Dink: Nice to know. Did you open them all at one time?
[06:11] <Dink> yea
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Let me try that
[06:11] <josef> hai is there a program or not that convert dvd to  mpeg
[06:11] <Dink> i even click on just one and it did them
[06:11] <josef> or package
[06:11] <Dink> depends on the way it was packaged
[06:11] <ArrenLex> josef: several. mencoder, for example (part of mplayer).
[06:11] <Dink> i would test again but cant open any dirs righ tnow :p
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Dink: how does that work? no cd allowed?
[06:12] <Dink> sorry dont understand
[06:13] <josef> arrenlex:hai, its only a part right  but i need a name of a complete package
[06:13] <ArrenLex> josef: mplayer
[06:13] <ArrenLex> !mplayer
[06:13] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[06:13] <DaSkreech> You can't change into a Directory?
[06:13] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[06:14] <Dink> something funky with konqueror
[06:14] <Dink> my konqueror
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:14] <Dink> i ran updates now everytime I try to click on a dir... get a backtrace error
[06:15] <Dink> was thinking about rebooting...kept saying unable to load "details, list, tree view" modules
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Nope trying to open all of them opens them one by one and trying to extract them all  extracts the first one then the rest complain that the folder already exists
[06:15] <Dink> try right click extract to on just one
[06:15] <smaggard> hi
[06:15] <josef> arrenlex, ok thanks and ubotu you too....bye
[06:15] <Dink> it should read the others
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Didn't
[06:16] <Dink> hmm hold let me see which on i have
[06:16] <Dink> ok i have unrar AND unrar-free
[06:16] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[06:16] <Dink> :P
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Im wondering if some of the repos have unrar.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> plf perhaps?
[06:17] <soundmaster80> hi all, i asked this on ubuntu and haven't gotten a reply....my lost+found directory is a bit large. I'm wondering if i can delete it and another one is auto created
[06:17] <soundmaster80> or is there a command i use to dump it
[06:17] <Dink> anyway to tell ?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> if things have been found and put in the lost and found dir... hmm ya may want to look in thee and see what its found
[06:17] <smaggard> hmm
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Dink,  try unrar --version and unrar-free --version ?
[06:18] <ArrenLex> soundmaster: why not just delete the files you don't need inside it?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> I have unrar
[06:18] <ArrenLex> alex@ubuntu:~$ zoo
[06:18] <ArrenLex> bash: zoo: command not found
[06:18] <ArrenLex> o_O? @ dr_willis
[06:18] <DaSkreech> which I think should be !unrar-free
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !info zoo
[06:19] <ubotu> zoo: manipulate zoo archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10-17 (dapper), package size 59 kB, installed size 152 kB
[06:19] <Dink> unrar 0.0.1 <---unrar-free and UNRAR 3.51 freeware <--- unrar
[06:19] <soundmaster80> there is nothing in it
[06:19] <ArrenLex> Zoo archives, eh? Well, sure heard of those. Yep. Sure have. o_o
[06:19] <soundmaster80> however it shows to be the biggest size folder i have
[06:19] <ArrenLex> Good ol'.. zoos. I remember the great zoo archive scare of '89. Good times.
[06:19] <Dink> DaSkreech install both ;)
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Same one I have
[06:19] <soundmaster80> i did df -h and i'm using 17 out of 18gb
[06:19] <DaSkreech>  Which one are you using?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> soundmaster80,  then.. err.. try ls -al  in that dir.
[06:20] <Dink> I just righ click and extract on one file and reads the rest
[06:20] <Dink> works for me all the time
[06:20] <soundmaster80> drwxr-xr-x  2 root     root 49152 2006-08-08 20:50 .
[06:20] <soundmaster80> drwxr-xr-x 21 jonathan 1001  4096 2006-05-18 05:43
[06:20] <soundmaster80> that's what appears
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Blast!!
[06:20] <DaSkreech> can I send you the files and you send me back the contents :)
[06:20] <Dink> lol
[06:20] <Dr_willis> soundmaster80,  look in those dirs..   see whats in tehre.
[06:21] <Dink> brb going to see if rebooting fixes my konqueror problems
[06:21] <smaggard> lol  lol lol
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. was just at a torrent search site -- it replied ->  error '8000ffff'     Catastrophic failure
[06:21] <ArrenLex> XD
[06:22] <helppapa> hey guys im on linux live cd and im simply trying to put some files i downloaded into my windows harddrive but it wont let me. any ideas?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  you really dont want to write to a ntfs partition from within linux
[06:22] <ArrenLex> helppapa: you can't write to ntfs from l... yes.
[06:23] <soundmaster80> for some reason i can't enter that directory
[06:23] <helppapa> i know that its risky to do it but im willing to take the risk
[06:23] <helppapa> :)
[06:23] <ArrenLex> !fuse
[06:23] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:23] <ArrenLex> I think you need to install stuff, though. i.e. you can't do it from the livecd.
[06:23] <helppapa> ahhh
[06:23] <helppapa> =[
[06:23] <helppapa> yea i tried fuse, its already installed on kubuntu
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I think you can install some things with the/on  the live cd..  but not a lot.
[06:24] <helppapa> but for some reason it says the drive doesnt exist or something when i try to mount
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I recall some live cd's (not ubuntu's) that had ntfs write support.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  make sure the dir you are mounting TO exists
[06:24] <helppapa> yea this one definitely doesnt =\ no permissions
[06:24] <Search4Lancer> a-ha, finally got things fixed... Sun's EULA wasn't working correctly in Adept, but worked just fine in aptitude... thanks for suggesting that Dr_willis
[06:24] <helppapa> it says it doesnt but im sure it does, how can i check to be sure its the right name?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Search4Lancer,  heh - ive had aptitude help.. then ive had it do really weird things
[06:27] <DaSkreech> bloody rar file
[06:27] <helppapa> guys :( im pretty sure that my drive exists but it says it doesnt in the command line when i tr to mount it with ntfsmount
[06:29] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  you need to give us some more detailed error messages.. its possible you are doing somtning trivial wrong
[06:29] <helppapa> well im simply typing sudo ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o umask=0007
[06:30] <Dr_willis> I dont even have a ntfsmount command..
[06:30] <helppapa> to mount the ntfs drive but then it says no such file or directory exists
[06:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:30] <helppapa> =[
[06:30] <Dr_willis>  - /media/hda1 exists ? you did make the dir?
[06:30] <ArrenLex> Does /media/hda1 exist?
[06:30] <helppapa> hmm i dont think i made it..
[06:30] <Dr_willis> thats what i asked 5 min ago.. :P
[06:31] <helppapa> sorry =\
[06:31] <Dink> DaSkreech
[06:31] <Dink> what are the file names ?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Dink
[06:31] <Dr_willis> its not the drive that exists.. its the MOUNTPOINT directory. :)
[06:31] <DaSkreech> part1.rar
[06:31] <DaSkreech> part2.rar
[06:31] <helppapa> i see now hehe
[06:31] <helppapa> how do i create it?
[06:31] <Dink> ohh thats are attached/volumed
[06:31] <Dr_willis> thats an oddly named rar.
[06:31] <Dink> arent*
[06:31] <Dr_willis> mkdir /media/whatever
[06:31] <helppapa> thank you sir
[06:31] <Dink> you have to extract them seperate
[06:32] <DaSkreech> I'm telling you I can't
[06:32] <DaSkreech> It;s name.part1.rar btw
[06:32] <DaSkreech> not just part1
[06:32] <Dink> extract part1.rar then do part2.rar
[06:32] <DaSkreech> It tries to reextract part1
[06:33] <helppapa> JESUS it still says no such file or directory..
[06:33] <Dink> get both unrar and then try :P
[06:33] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  whats the exact errpr message?
[06:33] <satafterh> is kde 3.5.5 much differant?
[06:34] <Dink> but most volumed rar ive seen are usually rar,r01,r02 etc
[06:34] <Dr_willis> satafterh,  not taht i noticed.
[06:34] <helppapa> fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory
[06:34] <Dr_willis> satafterh,  littel tweaks here and there.
[06:34] <helppapa> fuse_mount failed
[06:34] <helppapa> Unmounting:
[06:34] <Dink> gtg wife bitching :P
[06:34] <satafterh> ok thx
[06:34] <Dink> good luck man hit me up tomorrow if you still have problems
[06:34] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  sounds like you dont have the fuse tools installed.
[06:34] <Dink> nite
[06:35] <Dr_willis> fusermount   bash: /usr/bin/fusermount: Permission denied
[06:35] <helppapa> =\ i did apt get and it said they were at the latest version... maybe  i apt-get the wrong tools
[06:35] <helppapa> huh?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> type 'fusermount'
[06:35] <Dr_willis> and see
[06:35] <helppapa> k
[06:35] <helppapa> command not found
[06:35] <helppapa> hmm
[06:36] <helppapa> cant find package fusermount on apt-get damn
[06:36] <helppapa> leme search for it
[06:36] <Dr_willis> !find fuse
[06:36] <ubotu> Found: libfuse-dev, libfuse2, linux-image-2.6.15-23-386, linux-image-2.6.15-23-686, linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7 (and 27 others)
[06:36] <helppapa> ohh sweet bots :D
[06:36] <Dr_willis> im not even sure HOW fuse lets you write to ntfs drives
[06:37] <helppapa> lol
[06:37] <Dr_willis> !fuse
[06:37] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:37] <helppapa> jeeze which one should i get?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> No idea.. i dont screw with the ubuntu live cd.. i find live cd's that got the tools i need included. :
[06:37] <Blacken> Hrm, why does module-assistant insist on creating for me an i386 kernel instead of 686?
[06:37] <helppapa> ah ok thanx
[06:38] <ArrenLex> Blacken: are you running a 386 kernel?
[06:38] <helppapa> crapola
[06:39] <Dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse tells ya           sudo apt-get install libfuse2 ntfsprogs fuse-utils
[06:39] <helppapa> oo!
[06:39] <maryen> why so many kernel updates in edgy?
[06:39] <maryen> !edgy
[06:39] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:39] <maryen> !schedule
[06:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:40] <helppapa> !find fuse-utils
[06:40] <ubotu> Found: fuse-utils
[06:40] <helppapa> :|
[06:40] <maryen> lo
[06:40] <maryen> l
[06:40] <maryen> !ntfs
[06:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:40] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  that URL is rathher easy to follow.. :P
[06:40] <Blacken> ArrenLex: I am running a 386 kernel now, because when I enabled the fglrx module, it built a 386 kernel. And a 2.4.x SMP kernel beside it.
[06:41] <helppapa> i know i been following it, and many other things, nothing seems to work :(
[06:41] <helppapa> everything is installed to the latest version yet fusermount doesnt work
[06:41] <ArrenLex> Blacken: module-assistant builds for your current kernel. Otherwise you won't be able to load the module.
[06:41] <maryen> brb gotta update and reinstall nvidia and ndiswrapper
[06:41] <helppapa> then when i use ntfsmount and stuff it says the directory doesnt exist for my mount point even though i did make it
[06:41] <helppapa> sigh
[06:42] <satafterh> how is Kubuntu 6.10 Beta? pretty stable?
[06:42] <maryen> yep
[06:42] <satafterh> worth the upgrade you think?
[06:42] <helppapa> i wonder if theres a way to crack or override the permissons so i can just freakin drag and drop into the drive :|
[06:42] <maryen> very much so
[06:42] <Blacken> ArrenLex: Okay...so the 2.4.x kernel that magically appeared is...?
[06:42] <ArrenLex> Blacken:...? o_O
[06:42] <maryen> helppapa, is your ntfs partition clean?
[06:43] <satafterh> can I just upgrade from adept manager?
[06:43] <maryen> yes
[06:43] <maryen> not sure how though
[06:43] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  that URL tells you exactly how to mount a ntfs partition
[06:43] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  i am guessing you missed a step
[06:43] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[06:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:44] <helppapa> what do you mean by clean?
[06:44] <helppapa> i have followed every step and nothing works
[06:44] <helppapa> :(
[06:44] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  you did somthing wrong then.. or the live cd is the issue..
[06:44] <Dr_willis> I just followed that url.. and it worked.
[06:45] <helppapa> u simply typed sudo ntfsmount...etc and it worked?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> i followed the guide..
[06:45] <Dr_willis> installed the packages.. loaded the module and used the command they showed
[06:46] <Dr_willis> sudo ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o umask=0007
[06:46] <Dr_willis> that let my root user get to my ntfs drive and create a file.
[06:46] <satafterh> hello people, thinking about upgradeing to Kubuntu 6.10 Beta and want to do it through adept manger, where can i find the deb: to put in my source list?
[06:46] <helppapa> =\
[06:46] <Dark_Vampire> how do this other packet manager call again? sy......?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> satafterh: Just change all occurences of dapper to edgy
[06:47] <Dr_willis> synaptic - is the gnome/ubuntu default package manager
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Then relaod sources and click on upgrade
[06:47] <Donkeybreath> check out my site www.jpegtown.com tell me what you think of the coding, just finished it up
[06:47] <maryen> hey daskreech
[06:47] <DaSkreech> hi maryen
[06:47] <Dark_Vampire> thanks Dr_willis
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Donkeybreath we think it sucks
[06:49] <Dr_willis> but you are just a spam bot.. so we dont care.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:50] <maryen> i was about to say, you shouldnt be so mean
[06:50] <Dr_willis> maryen,  hes been spamming #ubuntu all night.. and just now got kick/banned.
[06:50] <maryen> ok brb gotta go recompile drivers
[06:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:50] <linux_galore> aaaaaargh new kde packages
[06:50] <maryen> hmm
[06:50] <linux_galore> heh heh
[06:51] <maryen> yes they've been loading them on edgy all day
[06:51] <maryen> apparently edgy is going to come with 3.5.5.
[06:51] <Dark_Vampire> how to get mp3 support in amarok?
[06:51] <linux_galore> yeah I have updated my laptop (dapper) already
[06:51] <maryen> !mp3
[06:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:52] <Dark_Vampire> thanks
[06:52] <maryen> np
[06:52] <helppapa> !find ntfsprogs-fuse
[06:52] <ubotu> Package/file ntfsprogs-fuse does not exist in dapper
[06:52] <helppapa> !find fuse library
[06:52] <ubotu> Found: libfuse-dev, libfuse2, linux-image-2.6.15-23-386, linux-image-2.6.15-23-686, linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7 (and 27 others)
[06:52] <linux_galore> or just click on an mp3 file and it should add support (did for me)
[06:53] <maryen> hmm
[06:53] <maryen> maybe they added the updated amarok to dapper too
[06:53] <maryen> didn't use to do that
[06:53] <linux_galore> I installed 6.06.1
[06:54] <maryen> didnt use to do that in 6.06.1
[06:54] <linux_galore> I dropped a mp3 file on the desktop and out of curiosity clicked on it and it asked to enable the repo and download support
[06:55] <maryen> hmm, i think ill install the latest ndiswrapper, somehow
[06:55] <maryen> and im saying it didnt use to do that in dapper linux_galore
[06:55] <linux_galore> maryen: so its a feature huh
[06:55] <linux_galore> or a new one
[06:56] <maryen> yep
[06:56] <linux_galore> pretty nice
[06:56] <satafterh> when i enter the following command i get error thats its and unknown command, any idea's any one? sudo sed -e s/\sdapper/ edgy/g -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:57] <linux_galore> satafterh: do you have sed installed
[06:57] <satafterh> dont know lol
[06:57] <linux_galore> satafterh: type se[TAB] 
[06:58] <satafterh> nothing happen, just made a sound
[06:59] <maryen> brb
[06:59] <linux_galore> you might have to hit the tab key twice
[06:59] <satafterh> its installed
[07:00] <satafterh> root@robin-desktop:~# sudo sed -e s/\sdapper/ edgy/g -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:00] <satafterh> sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `
[07:00] <satafterh> thats what i get
[07:00] <orient2000> I am trying to use Audiocity to convert wma file to mp3 and I need file libmp3lame.so    I can not find this file anywhere.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> sounds like a typo/bug in the bash completion scripts.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !find lame
[07:01] <ubotu> Found: flamethrower, glame, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, systemimager-server-flamethrowerd, toolame (and 5 others)
[07:01] <Dr_willis> /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
[07:01] <Dr_willis> hmm.. now how to tell what pacakge i used to GET that lib file
[07:01] <Dr_willis> I forget how to do that
[07:03] <linux_galore> sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list works
[07:03] <Dr_willis> orient2000,  i would guess i installed the lame program and it installed that lib. I use lame for my mp3 encodieng with grip
[07:03] <bimberi_> 'dpkg -S /path/to/file'  will tell you which package a file came from
[07:04] <linux_galore> satafterh:  whats the \s  for
[07:04] <satafterh> thats one worked thx
[07:04] <Dr_willis> willis@Audigy:~$ dpkg -S /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
[07:04] <Dr_willis> liblame0: /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
[07:05] <orient2000> file is not there
[07:05] <orient2000> it does not come with audiocity
[07:05] <Dark_Vampire> he tells me that libxine-extracodecs dont have a "installation canidate" what do that mean?
[07:05] <orient2000> maybe come with grip
[07:06] <linux_galore> Dr_willis: search for file name within the packages
[07:06] <Dr_willis> orient2000,  NO.. it came with the lame encoded i think
[07:06] <orient2000> no libmp3lime.so in adept
[07:07] <Dr_willis> liblame0 - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder
[07:07] <Dr_willis> is the pacakge it seems to come in. :P
[07:07] <orient2000> I go check it out
[07:07] <Dr_willis> just like dpkg -S /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0  said.. :P amazing.. heh heh -- what an odd name for a package
[07:09] <Dark_Vampire> !java
[07:09] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:10] <linux_galore> Dr_willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98302&highlight=libmp3lame
[07:10] <linux_galore> same problem with the fix
[07:10] <linux_galore> need to create a link
[07:14] <unix_infidel> anyone know if its possible to use a vm in vmware-server without being in X?
[07:15] <linux_galore> hmm libmp3lame seems to be part of VLC
[07:15] <linux_galore> weird
[07:16] <ironfroggy> any amarok experts around?
[07:16] <linux_galore> unix_infidel: can see why not
[07:16] <linux_galore> cant*
[07:16] <unix_infidel> linux_galore: how would i go about that?
[07:16] <orient2000> I found it but conversion to mp3 is some garbage, noise. It does not work properly.
[07:17] <linux_galore> orient2000: might be a drm version
[07:17] <Dark_Vampire> !limewire
[07:17] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[07:17] <orient2000> how about grip? does it convert files like wma to mp3?
[07:18] <linux_galore> orient2000: if its key encoded with drm your shit out of luck
[07:19] <Dr_willis> grip is a cd ripper/encoder front end
[07:19] <Dr_willis> !info grip
[07:19] <ubotu> grip: GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 440 kB, installed size 1268 kB
[07:19] <Dr_willis> ot does Not as far as i know convert from one format to another.. OTHER then cd/wav to whatever you tell it to.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> grip works very well for my CD ripping/encoding needs.
[07:20] <linux_galore> yeah i use grip for cd's. works great
[07:20] <linux_galore> just dont select a bit rate thats too high
[07:20] <orient2000> does grip convert wav to mp3?
[07:21] <linux_galore> orient2000: I use audacity for that
[07:21] <unix_infidel> that would be painful to convert 100 .wav files to mp3.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> orient2000,  it ripps the cd tracks to wav, then converts them to whatever ya tell it to
[07:22] <Dr_willis> then removes the .wav's (from what i can seein the grip logs)
[07:23] <orient2000> OK I wwill get grip and take a look.
[07:23] <Dark_Vampire> well I've installed java now :)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> weee
[07:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:24] <Dark_Vampire> but in the readme of limewire stands "You must place Sun's JRE in the path prior to launching LimeWire" what do that mean then? i runned the runlime.sh but he tell me he cant find java
[07:26] <linux_galore> Dark_Vampire: dont forget to run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:26] <mabreaux> does anyone run noteedit.   I have tried several times and still can not get it loaded
[07:26] <mabreaux> or to run
[07:27] <linux_galore> whats noteedit
[07:27] <mabreaux> music score editor
[07:27] <linux_galore> mabreaux: type  note[TAB]   twice  see if it shows up
[07:28] <linux_galore> [TAB]  = tab key
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Dark_Vampire,  do 'java -version'
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Dark_Vampire,  and see what java is being used by default.
[07:28] <Dark_Vampire> i think i got it....
[07:28] <linux_galore> mabreaux: if nothing shows up its either not installed or it not in your path
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Ok. :P
[07:29] <Dr_willis> ive never had do much more then install java, update the alternatives. and then install whatever.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> !limewire
[07:29] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> I found FrostWire - nicer then Limewire :P
[07:29] <Dark_Vampire> yes
[07:29] <mabreaux> found it and it crashes with a signal 6
[07:30] <linux_galore> Ive been using kmldonkey  it supports just about everything
[07:30] <Dark_Vampire> limewire is running :)
[07:30] <linux_galore> yep even bittorent and gnutella
[07:32] <pajama> Is there any workaround for Bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/15451 ?
[07:33] <mabreaux> i tried running it (noteedit) which is kde on 6.06 and 6.10 and it crashes with a signal 6 in both installations
[07:35] <Dark_Vampire> !mp3
[07:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <DaSkreech> gnight
[07:45] <javo> hey hello  #
[07:45] <javo> hum just installed the systemm . very nice i must say
[07:46] <javo> is there any way  to move the instalation from vmware to real hd ?
[07:49] <pacman> anyone know how I can improve my 3d acceleration?
[07:50] <sF|Xemanth> oh sweet dapper here i am again <3 <3 <3 no edgy for me yet
[08:02] <Ayabara> I still have KDE 3.5.2 in my kubuntu install. what do I need to add to my repos to get 3.5.5?
[08:07] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php <--- just add one of the repos listed
[08:09] <Ayabara> Jucato, thanks for the tip :-)
[08:09] <cpk2> bah, i am too lazy to upgrade to .5
[08:09] <cpk2> i mean .4 was like a month ago
[08:10] <Jucato> well, it's not a compulsory update anyway
[08:10] <mabreaux> does anyone know of a music score editor for kde....
[08:10] <Jucato> heck you can even stay with KDE 3.5.2 if you want :)
[08:11] <Jucato> cpk2: btw, KDE 3.5.4 was released in August. so basically 2 months ago :D
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[08:26] <Kragnerac> Hello, when I try to download a deb fron the web in Konqueror, it opens up in kate automatically. I have tried to change this in file associations, but to no avail. Is there a way to make it promt me, or at least open in gdebi?
[08:31] <bioticpro> Is xDVDShrink or K9Copy better?
[08:32] <lunar_raven> hey guys i have a question..my friend is trying to install kubuntu, and the live-cd is so incredibly slow for him he can barely do anything...but it shouldnt be
[08:32] <lunar_raven> i had the same problem on my laptop
[08:32] <lunar_raven> but not my pc
[08:32] <lunar_raven> anyone know why possibly?
[08:33] <Ayabara> in fedora I mounted some network drives with 'mount -t cifs'. kubuntu says "wrong fs type" when I run the same command.
[08:34] <Kragnerac> lunar_raven: Have you tried running the LiveCD in "Safe Graphics Mode"? I ran it in the normal mode, and it was very slow, but I tried safe graphics mode, and there was a very signifigant increase in performance.
[08:34] <flaccid> Ayabara: try using smbfs instead of cifs
[08:35] <lunar_raven> well, my friend is trying to install it..but i'll tell him now
[08:37] <Kragnerac> Write a line of code, eat a lime. :)
[08:37] <Ayabara> flaccid, installed smbfs and tried again. now I get 'SMB connection failed'
[08:38] <unix_infidel> does it take a reboot to reset a hostname edited in /etc/hosts
[08:38] <Dark_Vampire> !mp3
[08:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:39] <Kragnerac> !konqueror
[08:39] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 1911 kB, installed size 5168 kB
[08:39] <flaccid> Ayabara: that is your smb server problem, not the client
[08:39] <flaccid> unix_infidel: no. run the command hostname host instead of rebooting
[08:40] <unix_infidel> flaccid: but isnt that temporary.
[08:40] <unix_infidel> does it look up /etc/hosts on next boot
[08:40] <flaccid> unix_infidel: it is until you reboot yes
[08:40] <flaccid> yes i belive so iirc
[08:48] <LoudThud> this sucks
[08:49] <orient2000> what sucks?
[08:50] <maryen> loudthud does
[08:50] <wiza> anyone knows where can I change volume stepping for thinkpad's volume up/down keys? it doesn't seem to give a flying ... about kmilo's config
[08:51] <maryen> regional settings in system settings
[08:51] <maryen> have fun
[08:51] <LoudThud> hhmmm
[08:51] <orient2000> ALT F2 kontrol?
[08:52] <orient2000> is it safe to update to KDE 3.5.5 ?
[08:52] <maryen> yes
[08:52] <maryen> its very stable
[08:52] <obf213> i just downloaded an amaork script off of kde-apps.org, but i have no clue wht to do next
[08:52] <obf213> is there some amarok scritps program i need
[08:53] <maryen> amarok script?
[08:53] <maryen> never heard of it
[08:53] <obf213> yes
[08:53] <obf213> there are lots of script, the one i downloaded is a format converter
[08:54] <wiza> it worked perfectly in dapper but it seems that someone broke it :(
[08:54] <wiza> now up/down vol buttons change volume by 7-11%
[08:56] <Ayabara> anyone know how I can adjust the emacs font size in kubuntu?
[08:56] <obf213> the script is a .py a python program
[08:56] <obf213> but when i click it i just see text
[08:57] <wiza> obf213: you have x flag set?
[08:57] <wiza> obf213: so it's executable?
[08:57] <obf213> wiza: how do i do that
[08:57] <wiza> chmod 755 myscript.py
[08:57] <obf213> wiza i dont hink so, i think had similar problem with java until swtiched somoething around
[08:57] <wiza> lemme test
[08:59] <obf213> wiza im still seeing the xml or w/e
[08:59] <obf213> i think there is a menu i need to change wht the program opens with
[08:59] <wiza> click properties
[09:00] <obf213> i had to do the same thing before
[09:00] <flaccid> obf213: you add the script in amarok
[09:00] <flaccid> from the menu
[09:00] <obf213> ooo ok
[09:00] <wiza> aah, in amarok yeah, if you want to just click and execute scripts you need to bind .py files to /usr/bin/python
[09:00] <obf213> wiza how do i do that
[09:01] <obf213> i think i did that with my java files there was a menu i went to
[09:01] <wiza> click properties on some .py file, right side of the type row, there is a button
[09:01] <wiza> click it
[09:01] <wiza> then there is program order for that type, click add, and add /usr/bin/python to it
[09:02] <obf213> i cant find wht ur talking about
[09:02] <obf213> right side of the type row, there is a button
[09:02] <obf213> wht does that mean
[09:03] <obf213> wiza nvm
[09:04] <wiza> where it says Type: Python Program [button] 
[09:04] <wiza> I have a button with picture of wrench
[09:04] <wiza> in the .py file's properties window
[09:05] <Ayabara> anyone here using emacs?
[09:05] <Ayabara> I need some help on finding a good font...
[09:13] <Dark-Vampire> !mp3
[09:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:15] <orient2000> try ALT F2 kontrol for emacs fonts
[09:29] <Electrolyte> Hi all - I've just installed kernel-image-2.6.15-27-686-SMP and now I can't get fglrx to work.
[09:29] <Bedo> Hi Electrolyte
[09:29] <Electrolyte> I've tried reinstalling it and reconfiguring it, and it still refuses to work :/
[09:29] <Bedo> mmm
[09:29] <Electrolyte> I'm stuck on Mesa at the moment.
[09:30] <Bedo> i've read something about a week ago
[09:30] <Bedo> have you tried google?
[09:30] <Electrolyte> Not yet because the browser is going slow :/
[09:31] <Electrolyte> And I haven't a clue what to even search for.
[09:31] <Bedo> try searching "kubuntu smp fglrx"
[09:33] <Electrolyte> Think I've found what's missing.
[09:34] <Bedo> what?
[09:36] <Electrolyte> lol thought so.
[09:36] <Electrolyte> I forgot linux-restricted-modules.
[09:36] <Bedo> lol
[09:36] <Bedo> that's pretty necessary :)
[09:43] <livingdaylight> whilst trying to install and enable nvidia 3d something has gone wrong. when i Cnt+Alt+Backspace the system freezes/stalls and i didn't see the nvidia logo like i was told to expect to. Fortunately, my old Xorgconf.files are backed up by default - right? and i just need to retrieve those. what is the command for retrieving backup, please?
[09:44] <livingdaylight> in the ubuntuguide to backup would be: sudo cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[09:44] <Ahmuck> anybody get a linksys wusb54gc working in kubuntu ?
[09:44] <livingdaylight> In this given example how would i retrieve the backup would i need to as i do now with my xorg.confiles
[09:44] <livingdaylight> ?
[09:46] <abattoir> livingdaylight: try 'sudo dexconf'
[09:52] <livingdaylight> abattoir: before i try that, can you tell me what its supposed to do?
[09:56] <livingdaylight> Anyone know where the xorg_backup is kept when attempting to enable 3d. After sudo enable nvidia-glx and Cnt+Alt+Backspace the xorg file is backed up and kept where? it was /var or /opt but alas i didn't write it down coz i thought i'd remember or even thought it would just work (i'm so dumb)
[10:00] <jonah13> can someone help me out with a problem i have - kubuntu on a g3 imac?
[10:00] <jonah13> i have no sound
[10:01] <fonger> ok thanks
[10:02] <berkes|afk> heh, whats the shortcut command to make the menu appear again?
[10:03] <berkes|afk> I somehow removed it in "konversation" :)
[10:07] <SubNet> Hi there! Does anybody know when KDE 3.5.5 will be available for Dapper?
[10:09] <livingdaylight> abattoir: ok, so don't tell me what sudo dexconf does
[10:10] <KDEfanboy> SubNet: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[10:11] <SubNet> KDEfanboy: Thx :)
[10:12] <KDEfanboy> :)
[10:24] <Momal> Good idea to update to kde3.5.5? im currently at 3.5.3
[10:31] <KDEfanboy> yep
[10:45] <gupta> !klogd
[10:45] <ubotu> klogd: Kernel Logging Daemon. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.1-17ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[10:45] <gupta> damn! is doesn't seem safe to switch off klogd..
[10:45] <gupta> it*
[10:46] <gupta> but It comsumes 80% cpu most of the time
[10:46] <Momal> Nooooooo... updating kde will break :'(
[10:46] <gupta> what to do?
[10:46] <Momal> hmm.. lol maybe because kdm still running :p.. silly me :p
[10:52] <Squatch> How do I set preferred apps in KDE?
[10:55] <flo> hallo an alle die deutsch sprechen!
[10:55] <flo> :)
[10:56] <brauerle> any known problems with the KDE 3.5.5 uprade?
[10:56] <KDEfanboy>  !de
[10:56] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:57] <Momal> omg... kde 3.5.5 update changed font? seems my fonts are more pixel fonts but they aren't as good as they were before :S
[10:57] <Momal> and my systray icons are larger :S
[10:57] <fildo> hehe
[10:58] <Squatch> Wow, yeah, you're right now that I think about it.  Didn't realize those changes were made until you just mentioned it though lol.
[10:58] <fildo> look @ changelog, will disclose all info about update
[10:58] <flo> hmmm
[10:58] <Momal> yea damn.. the font isn't that much to bother me but now I have a longer task bar >_<... I want my 2 rows again :(
[10:58] <flo> not known
[10:58] <flo> whats the repos. to get the packages?
[10:59] <fildo> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main
[10:59] <flo> thanks
[10:59] <flo> and then apt-get install update ?
[10:59] <flo> upgrade
[10:59] <fildo> flo: no problems mate
[10:59] <_thumper_> is there a reason why kde-latest hasn't been moved to kde-355?
[10:59] <fildo> sudo apt-get update
[10:59] <flo> okay
[10:59] <fildo> sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:59] <flo> thx a lot
[10:59] <flo> ;)
[10:59] <fildo> thats why im here!
[10:59] <flo> I've activated my root account ;)
[10:59] <flo> like debian ;)
[10:59] <fildo> one big happy community
[11:00] <Momal> lol
[11:00] <fildo> yeh first thing u should do .
[11:00] <_thumper_> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest still points to kde-354
[11:00] <Squatch> How do you edit MIME types to change default app associations?
[11:01] <flo> i've problem with rep. source
[11:01] <flo> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[11:01] <flo> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht geprft werden weil der zugehrige ffentliche Schlssel nicht zur Verfgung steht: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[11:01] <flo> W: Sie mchten vielleicht apt-get update aufrufen, um diese Probleme zu lsen
[11:01] <flo> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release:
[11:01] <flo> wrong rep?
[11:01] <fildo> i didnt get it
[11:01] <KDEfanboy> flo: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[11:01] <flo> sorry - i', newbie :-(
[11:02] <fildo> weird. but just import key
[11:02] <flo> it works - thank you! :)
[11:02] <flo> where do you come from?
[11:02] <fildo> aus
[11:03] <brauerle> ger
[11:03] <flo> austria :)
[11:03] <fildo> but born in poland
[11:03] <groovesalad> nice nice
[11:03] <groovesalad> :)
[11:03] <fildo> yerp
[11:03] <fildo> pizza's here. brb
[11:04] <groovesalad> mhhh pizza
[11:04] <groovesalad> ;)
[11:04] <groovesalad> diavolo
[11:04] <groovesalad> or like homer: mmhhhh - beeeeer ;) LOL
[11:05] <groovesalad> anyone use the ubuntu-server?
[11:05] <Momal> weird my fonts still seem to be set to the same as before and AA is enabled for them... why do they show werid now :S
[11:05] <groovesalad> hmmm - maybe you have to upgrade your graphic driver @ momal
[11:06] <Momal> It only just happened since I updated kde
[11:06] <Momal> like 10min ago
[11:06] <groovesalad> mhm
[11:06] <Momal> they are sorta like pixel fonts now and before they weren't :S
[11:06] <groovesalad> maybe the kde upgrade overwrites oder mod your xorg.conf
[11:06] <groovesalad> oder = or (sorry)
[11:06] <Momal> i'll have a lookies...
[11:07] <groovesalad> okay
[11:07] <Momal> it did change my kdmrc if they can effect it.. might restore my back up... would it still be fine under new kde?
[11:07] <groovesalad> try to reinstall your graphicdrivers!
[11:08] <SubNet> Does someone know, why Adept has no option to manage the Repos in Edgy (menu-entry is grayed)
[11:08] <groovesalad> hm - i don't think that it's possible that the kdmrc modifie your fonts
[11:08] <SubNet> I normaly dont use ist, but I wondered when I went through the menu ...
[11:10] <windshear> anyone knows if it is possible in edgy to install the proprietary nvidia driver using gui
[11:11] <groovesalad> @ windshear - download the bin file
[11:11] <SubNet_> windshear: I heard they are installable, but I don't know s.th about GUI-Installation
[11:11] <groovesalad> sudo ./Nvidia......
[11:11] <groovesalad> @ konsole
[11:11] <groovesalad> finish :)
[11:12] <windshear> hm, will try :)
[11:12] <SubNet_> That is even simpler than with GUI I guess ;)
[11:12] <windshear> thx
[11:12] <groovesalad> of course @ subnet ;)
[11:12] <SubNet_> Most things are simpler on a shell - and faster
[11:12] <SubNet_> U just have to know how it works and were to write what ...
[11:13] <groovesalad> right you are!
[11:13] <groovesalad> :-)
[11:13] <Skrot> Dude, the nvidia installer IS a gui, you just execute it from console :P
[11:13] <SubNet_> But the last mentioned thing can take u hours and days ;)
[11:13] <groovesalad> I don't know - i've a ati card :)
[11:13] <groovesalad> I don't know - i've a ati card :)
[11:14] <groovesalad> x850
[11:14] <SubNet_> ATI as well -> x300 and 9200SE
[11:14] <SubNet_> works fine in edgy without any hndy action
[11:14] <SubNet_> handy i mean
[11:15] <Momal> putting the old kdmrc file back fixed my fonts
[11:20] <_thumper_> Riddell: is the kde-latest symlink going to be moved to kde-355?
[11:25] <lipe_pe> Good morning, someone can tell me where can i find a good site that teaches me to compile the kernel !? please ...
[11:25] <lipe_pe> Good morning, someone can tell me where can i find a good site that teaches me how to compile the kernel !? please ...
[11:25] <Skrot> !kernel
[11:25] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:26] <lipe_pe> ubotu: thx u veeery much !!
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx u veeery much !! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Skrot> lipe_pe: ubotu is a bot.
[11:26] <lipe_pe> Skrot: heehhehe, sorry, thx u very much ! :D
[11:26] <Skrot> no problem ;)
[11:32] <pandamonium> my kubuntu machine has gone all weird on me
[11:32] <lipe_pe> pandamonium: can i help u ?
[11:32] <pandamonium> last night it froze completely and i had to switch off
[11:33] <pandamonium> this morning when i came to it i moved the mouse and the cursor was shooting off in random directions, windows opening all over the place
[11:33] <pandamonium> i shut it down from a remote machine and then booted up again
[11:34] <pandamonium> i'm using it now but the icons on the task bar are gone
[11:34] <pandamonium> gone? no, they're gone out of order
[11:35] <lipe_pe> pandamonium: i don't know how to fix it .... sorry
[11:36] <pandamonium> lipe_pe, i was thinking about a large, heavy, metallic object and a trip to the pc hardware centre
[11:36] <justjoo> pandamonium: exact same kubuntu problems here after kde 3.5.5
[11:37] <livingdaylight> System Settings is not letting me 'Apply' anything i change.
[11:37] <pandamonium> justjoo, you're having the same?
[11:38] <justjoo> yes
[11:38] <lipe_pe> pandamonium: and nothing ... its very weird
[11:38] <Juki> anyone else having problems with upgrading kdenetwork due to no available kopete update?
[11:38] <pandamonium> justjoo, are you using a KVM?
[11:38] <justjoo> KVM?
[11:39] <pandamonium> yeah, keyboard, video, mouse switch
[11:39] <justjoo> nope
[11:39] <livingdaylight> yesterday i installed kubuntu for the first time and it was great. Today i had to reinstall it and its just not working ?!!
[11:41] <pandamonium> justjoo, when did this start for you?
[11:42] <justjoo> today, after i updated kde 3.5.5
[11:42] <livingdaylight> anyone know why system settings wont let me change screenresolution?
[11:42] <pandamonium> it happened to me last night after i updated too
[11:46] <justjoo> pandamonium: my kubuntu had frozed many times today  and i must reset whole machine
[11:47] <pandamonium> justjoo, does the cursor go crazy all over the screen?
[11:47] <lipe_pe> I just changed my googe search bar url to another, but now it isn't working ... someone can tell me, please the url that is in the google search bar ?!?! thx u
[11:47] <justjoo> cursor dont move, everything stucks
[11:48] <livingdaylight> yesterday, after installing kubuntu changing screenresolution was the first thing i did. Now its not working. Should i reinstall? What could have gone wrong?
[11:48] <livingdaylight> ok, i'll come back later. Seems there is no one here to help now
[11:49] <pandamonium> justjoo, are you able to log in from a remote machine on the network?
[11:51] <lipe_pe> I just changed my googe search bar url to another, but now it isn't working ... someone can tell me, please the url that is in the google search bar ?!?! thx u
[11:52] <pandamonium> from my syslog:
[11:52] <pandamonium> Oct 12 10:13:16 localhost kernel: [17203938.932000]  psmouse.c: <NULL> at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 1 bytes away.
[11:53] <pandamonium> there are many other such entries
[11:53] <justjoo> no i have only this machine
[11:54] <pandamonium> justjoo, take a look at your syslog. there might be something there to google
[11:54] <justjoo> ok.
[11:56] <boachan> i just installed kubuntu and its running like really slow
[11:56] <boachan> and its almost using up my 1gb of ram to just run the os
[11:56] <boachan> seems kinda odd
[11:57] <lipe_pe> I just changed my googe search bar url to another, but now it isn't working ... someone can tell me, please the url that is in the google search bar ?!?! thx u
[12:06] <abattoir> livingdaylight: sorry, had to go afk... did you try it? sudo dexconf 'restores' your original/stock xorg.conf
[12:07] <andersen-hc> Hiya ppl, does anyone know how to grab a running application using ssh x forwarding?
[12:08] <andersen-hc> I know how to execute an application, but not how to grab a currently running one
[12:08] <andersen-hc> ssh -X user@ip app
[12:16] <livingdaylight> anyone know why system settings wont let me change screenresolution?
[12:16] <livingdaylight> System Settings is not letting me 'Apply' anything i change.
[12:16] <abattoir> livingdaylight: are you in 'Administrator Mode' ?
[12:17] <livingdaylight> abattoir: yesterday i didn't need to be root to change screen resolution. BUt today even when i clicked adinistrator mode it didn't work
[12:18] <abattoir> livingdaylight: is the slider disabled?
[12:18] <abattoir> or does it allow you to change, but does not apply the changes?
[12:18] <abattoir> (as you seem to indicate)
[12:18] <abattoir> and also... Dapper?
[12:19] <livingdaylight> abattoir: slider works,i set it to size i want, apply, click on 'keep' but then nothing happens
[12:19] <livingdaylight> abattoir: yes, dapper, kubuntu
[12:19] <abattoir> livingdaylight: could you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:20] <abattoir> !pastebin
[12:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:20] <livingdaylight> abattoir: ok
[12:20] <Shyne_> hello, im having some problems with Bluetooth. My mouse works fine when I boot up, but the keyboard doesnt. i have to use a wired keyboard to login. atm im using hidd --search to connect the bluetooth keyboard once ive logged in. I notice several errors from kbluetoothd icon when i try to use the bluetooth keyboard - authentication errors
[12:20] <abattoir> Shyne_: does it connect when you manually try to?
[12:20] <Shyne_> yeah
[12:21] <abattoir> Shyne_: and are you using dapper?
[12:21] <Shyne_> it says
[12:21] <Shyne_>  Connecting to device 00:07:61:24:63:7E
[12:21] <Shyne_> HID create error 13 (Permission denied)
[12:21] <Shyne_> im using edgy now, but the problem was always there on dapper
[12:21] <abattoir> Shyne_: hmm, bluetooth is a bit edgy in edgy....
[12:21] <Shyne_> but since i upgraded i feel like i want to fix it - the problem was exactly the same in dapper
[12:21] <abattoir> Shyne_: is your keyboard in 'pairing mode' ?
[12:21] <Shyne_> abattoir it just has a button underneath to connect
[12:22] <Shyne_> if i search and press that i get a connection
[12:22] <livingdaylight> abattoir: /etc/X11/xorg.conf output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26416/
[12:22] <Shyne_> on windows it would ask for a number ot be typed in matching something on screen
[12:22] <abattoir> Shyne_: hmm, then try 1234
[12:22] <Shyne_> well it doesnt ask for a number here
[12:23] <abattoir> Shyne_: did it ask for one in dapper?
[12:23] <Shyne_> on gnome it used to work at the login screen
[12:23] <Shyne_> no abattoir the problem is identical to that on dapper
[12:23] <Momal> how do i find the verison of xorg that im using ?
[12:23] <abattoir> livingdaylight: which res do you want?
[12:23] <andersen-hc> Hiya ppl, does anyone know how to grab a running application using ssh x forwarding?
[12:24] <andersen-hc> I know how to execute an application, but not how to grab a currently running one
[12:24] <andersen-hc> ssh -X user@ip app
[12:24] <livingdaylight> 1024x768 but its everything in system settings that has the 'Apply' problem i think
[12:24] <abattoir>  Momal
[12:24] <abattoir> Momal: apt-cache show xserver-xorg | grep Version
[12:24] <Momal> thanks
[12:25] <livingdaylight> abattoir: yesterday, ididn't have to edit my /etc/x11/xorg.conf to get the desired screen resolution
[12:25] <Shyne_> abattoir do you know a way i can make it hidd --search at the login screen so i can get the keyboard to work ?
[12:26] <abattoir> livingdaylight: anything you did between yesterday and today, which might have caused it?
[12:26] <abattoir> Shyne_: wait, i'll see
[12:26] <livingdaylight> abattoir: my system stopped working in the process of enablin nvidia 3d
[12:27] <abattoir> livingdaylight: so you were using the nvidia drivers yesterday?
[12:27] <livingdaylight> Today, i have done a fresh install coz it was too much hassle. So, i'm actually looking at a fresh install of Kubuntu
[12:27] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i was trying to
[12:27] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i installed nvidia-glx etc
[12:28] <livingdaylight> abattoir: did nvidia-glx enable
[12:28] <abattoir> livingdaylight: ok, so you were using the generic 'nv' driver yesterday... not something you downloaded from nvidia, right?
[12:28] <livingdaylight> abattoir: but when i did contr+alt+backspace i couldnt book back into kubuntu
[12:28] <livingdaylight> abattoir: thats right 'nv'
[12:29] <livingdaylight> abattoir: thats right i didn't download anything until i follwed the how to
[12:29] <livingdaylight> !nvidia
[12:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <livingdaylight> abattoir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia this is what i followed
[12:29] <cpk2> why cant i get 1280x1024 by pressing -/+
[12:29] <abattoir> livingdaylight: ok...
[12:30] <abattoir> cpk2: is it in your xorg.conf ?
[12:30] <Shyne_> abattoir ive added a rule telling kbluetoothd to accept incoming connections from my keyboard. maybe this will work :D
[12:30] <cpk2> abattoir: yes, but when i run a wine app that uses a lower res it keeps my desktop at that res as well
[12:30] <abattoir> Shyne_: tell me if it does ;)
[12:31] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i would think that anything that got messed up yesterday would be wiped out by doing a performing a fresh installation of kubuntu which i did this morning
[12:31] <cpk2> and ctrl alt +/- wont go above 1024x768
[12:31] <cpk2> just because x wont start doesnt mean to despair and reinstall =P
[12:31] <livingdaylight> cpk2: hi, dude
[12:32] <cpk2> abattoir: would the order of the resolutions in xorg make a difference?
[12:32] <cpk2> livingdaylight: hello
[12:32] <livingdaylight> cpk2: all our good work with java yesterday was undone by having to reinstall kubuntu fresh today coz my system borked installing nvidia
[12:32] <abattoir> cpk2: it might, afaik, it cycles through the resolutions mentioned there... so might, actually
[12:32] <cpk2> yesterday? I still havent slept since i've done that =P
[12:32] <livingdaylight> cpk2: and now i'm having similar problems with screenresolution that at least i didn't experience at all yesterday
[12:33] <livingdaylight> cpk2: lol, dude!
[12:33] <cpk2> abattoir: hrmm, ok I will put them in order from greatest to least then
[12:33] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i've had a good 7hrs shut-eye since
[12:33] <livingdaylight> cpk2: obviously different time-zones or you are just mad ;)
[12:34] <abattoir> livingdaylight: i haven't, going through LP to see if there is a bug :)
[12:34] <livingdaylight> abattoir: :) thx man. Sorry about that...i appreciate it
[12:35] <livingdaylight> abattoir: LP?
[12:35] <cpk2> livingdaylight: its getting close to my bedtime =)
[12:35] <abattoir> livingdaylight: can't think of any other reason why it shouldn't work....
[12:35] <abattoir> !launchpad
[12:35] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[12:35] <cpk2> however i still need to finish up an assignment due in the morning
[12:35] <cpk2> blah i dont want to restart x to see if order matters in xorg
[12:37] <abattoir> livingdaylight: do you want to manually change the entry in xorg.conf to see if its a bug in Guidance(system settings) ?
[12:37] <livingdaylight> abattoir: has anything happened since yesterday. I've got the same iso image on the same computer and yesterday i experienced no issue there and today i do? wondering whether its worth doing another fresh install :s
[12:38] <cpk2> well i will be back!
[12:38] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i can tell System Settings is buggy
[12:38] <cpk2> livingdaylight: always has been imho
[12:40] <livingdaylight> that was very reassuring of cpk2
[12:40] <cpk2> abattoir: wow, it actually was the order
[12:40] <livingdaylight> cpk2: thx for your reassurance, :s
[12:41] <abattoir> livingdaylight: try reconfiguring xserver-xorg, can't think of anything else...
[12:41] <cpk2> livingdaylight: well, sometimes i cant get admin in system settings and sometimes some of the guis wont load
[12:41] <abattoir> cpk2: hmm, what was your issue again? :P
[12:41] <livingdaylight> cpk2: that is unacceptable -surely?!
[12:41] <abattoir> cpk2: aah, yes, changing the res. through kb shortcuts :)
[12:41] <cpk2> abattoir: ctrl alt -/+ wasnt giving me the resolution I use normally
[12:42] <cpk2> now if only the kdm login screen would start at the right res...
[12:42] <livingdaylight> or else i'll eat the cd
[12:42] <abattoir> livingdaylight: mm, wait
[12:42] <cpk2> livingdaylight: what happened?
[12:42] <abattoir> livingdaylight: reinstalling whenever you have a problem isnt the right solution
[12:43] <abattoir> livingdaylight: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:43] <abattoir> livingdaylight: wait
[12:43] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i know but it is a totally fresh install anyhow so i am not losing anything
[12:43] <livingdaylight> abattoir: ok
[12:43] <abattoir> livingdaylight: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[12:43] <cpk2> livingdaylight: BUT it will be good to learn for when/if it happens further down the line
[12:43] <abattoir> livingdaylight: choose your driver, nv, and select all the resolutions that you need(space bar)
[12:44] <abattoir> livingdaylight: then restart X, open system settings and try again
[12:44] <abattoir> livingdaylight: you are losing time :)
[12:44] <abattoir> livingdaylight: you could be installing java instead of reinstalling again :P
[12:45] <livingdaylight> abattoir: lol, i know! you think i wanna be messing with this. but my current resolution is not acceptable. I wish i didn't have to jump over these unnecessary hurdles. Linux should be improved enough that stuff like that is not an issue anymore
[12:46] <livingdaylight> abattoir: screen resolution is something very basic
[12:46] <abattoir> livingdaylight: ugh, the perennial debate.... blame the Hardware vendors... :)
[12:46] <livingdaylight> abattoir: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[12:47] <abattoir> livingdaylight: yup
[12:47] <livingdaylight> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you mean?
[12:47] <abattoir> no include phigh
[12:47] <abattoir> you dont want to go through the others do you? ;)
[12:47] <cpk2> abattoir: why not just edit xorg to get the res. he wants?
[12:48] <abattoir> cpk2: wait, i thought we were through that...
[12:48] <livingdaylight> cpk2: that is what abattoir is suggesting i do
[12:48] <livingdaylight> abattoir: that command isn't opening it up
[12:49] <cpk2> XD
[12:49] <livingdaylight> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26418/
[12:49] <livingdaylight> cpk2: :D i am my problem, lol
[12:50] <livingdaylight> sudo dpkg-reconfigure livinddaylights-brain
[12:50] <abattoir> livingdaylight: did you select your driver, res etc. ?
[12:50] <cpk2> livingdaylight: thats not an error, thats information
[12:51] <abattoir> livingdaylight: you didnt get the bluescreen where you choose your driver, select res. etc. ?
[12:52] <livingdaylight> abattoir: no
[12:53] <cpk2> i've got another X question... I have one of those microsoft keyboards with those newfangled keys to control a media player and stuff, anyway I could get those keys to work?
[12:54] <abattoir> livingdaylight: ummm, can you try Ctrl+Alt++ ?
[12:54] <abattoir> cpk2: edgy or dapper?
[12:54] <cpk2> livingdaylight: just to let you know, I am *pretty* sure that I just clicked on system settings to open it, but it doesnt look like its doing anything =P
[12:54] <cpk2> abattoir: dapper
[12:55] <abattoir> cpk2: it should work out of the box in edgy... ;)
[12:55] <abattoir> cpk2: System Settings->Reg. and Acc.->Keyboard Layout->Keyboard Model .... see if something similar to your keyboard is listed
[12:58] <cpk2> abattoir: I found one that was almost my keyboard (mine is rev 1.1 the one in the menu is 1.0a) and the keyboard still works (duh) time to test the keys!
[12:58] <cpk2> YES
[12:59] <cpk2> I am kind of ashamed I hadnt thought to look in that menu
[01:01] <cpk2> abattoir: so is edgy going to detect this automatically and even (dare I ask this) bind them for you?
[01:01] <abattoir> cpk2: yes, it should, Lure(a kubuntu dev) has worked hard on that ;)
[01:01] <cpk2> I mean who doesnt want to have a "Calcultor" button that actually works
[01:01] <abattoir> cpk2: for eg. my Laptop media keys work out of the box
[01:01] <cpk2> awesome
[01:02] <cpk2> its always the little things like this that make ubuntu seem so much cooler =D
[01:03] <abattoir> cpk2: thanks the devs ;)
[01:05] <cpk2> oh boy I am so happy I can use these keys again lol
[01:06] <cpk2> even the labels for it are clear AND correct
[01:07] <hyper> how comes I need to tell KDE to reboot or shutdown twice through the gui before it actually does shutdown or reboot?
[01:07] <cpk2> xf86volumeup xf86volumedown xf86calculator and so on
[01:07] <cpk2> hyper: you could just issue a sudo reboot or sudo powerdown
[01:07] <hyper> cpk2: well, but why doesn't it work through the gui the first time?
[01:07] <hyper> hiho abattoir :)
[01:08] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[01:08] <cpk2> well I wasnt even really aware that users could shut down or reboot
[01:09] <abattoir> hyper: you mean, you'll have to go through the same process twice? (KMenu->Log Out->Turnoff) ?
[01:09] <hyper> KStart --> Logout --> Menu with "End Current Session, Turn Computer off, Restart Computer, Hibernate Computer"
[01:09] <hyper> abattoir: Yes, I have to do it twice
[01:09] <abattoir> hyper: that's weird, edgy? or dapper?
[01:09] <hyper> If I do it only once then it logs out Konversation and also logs out from Kopete
[01:09] <hyper> abattoir: edgy
[01:10] <hyper> it's been the same in dapper and in gnome/dapper
[01:10] <abattoir> hyper: that's weird, must be something w/ your hardware/setup then
[01:11] <hyper> abattoir: I don't know :(
[01:11] <cpk2> i've never tried restarting or powering down via a gui
[01:11] <hyper> abattoir: what's the best way to reconfigure the keyboard? I want to switch  with |
[01:11] <cpk2> i always just issue a sudo reboot or sudo powerdown
[01:11] <hyper> AltGr - 7 -->    and AltGr - 1 --> |
[01:12] <andersen-hc> sbin/init 6
[01:12] <hyper> cpk2: through shell it works immediately
[01:12] <hyper> cpk2: just not through gui
[01:16] <hyper> abattoir: what do you think of this here?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275036
[01:18] <abattoir> hyper: have you checked the Keyboard section in System Settings?
[01:20] <abattoir> hyper: hmm, what must i think of it? can't think of anything :P
[01:20] <cpk2> is there a nero type clone for linux?
[01:20] <hyper> abattoir: yes, but I don't wanna fuck up my keyboard :)
[01:20] <cristian> hi
[01:21] <abattoir> hyper: not sure of any other way, and please mind your language :)
[01:21] <hyper> abattoir: well, kubuntu (desktop) comes with a lot of stuff and that might be a good way to get rid of it all from the beginning and then install the needed software afterwards... does that look like a good guide for achieving that?
[01:22] <abattoir> hyper: hmm, i wouldnt say so :P
[01:23] <abattoir> hyper: i think the best way would be to install kde-core after kde-desktop after you do that
[01:23] <cristian> next kubuntu version will support xgl "out of the box"?
[01:24] <abattoir> hyper: one of the adv. of kde is the 'complete' desktop, you lose on that if you selectively install things likkdesktop w/o kicker etc.
[01:24] <hyper> OK
[01:24] <abattoir> cristian: X in it supports compositing out of the box, xgl is available in the repos for you to install
[01:25] <cristian> thx for the info abattoir
[01:25] <abattoir> np
[01:25] <hyper> Abattoir: Hmmm, I can't find out how to change altg - 7 and altgr - 1....
[01:25] <theresa> hey
[01:25] <theresa> would you recommend upgrading to edgy already?
[01:26] <theresa> because i'm really excited about the new features :)
[01:26] <kiko> hola
[01:26] <cpk2> hello
[01:27] <kiko> puedes tu hablar espaol
[01:27] <pansy> heda
[01:27] <abattoir> hyper: do you use a US keyboard?
[01:27] <abattoir> !es
[01:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:27] <pansy> donde esta la zapateria?
[01:27] <hyper> abattoir: no, swiss German
[01:27] <hyper> abattoir: and two keys are swapped....
[01:28] <hyper> AltGr-1 should be   but it's  |    and AltGr-7 should be | but it's 
[01:28] <abattoir> theresa: well, its still under development, if you'd like to help out in testing, and don't mind bugs, or your system breaking, you can upgrade ;)
[01:28] <abattoir> theresa: if you are new, you'd do better to wait till its released :)
[01:29] <abattoir> hyper: i'm not sure how that's done, sorry
[01:29] <hyper> abattoir: well... hmmm... ok :)
[01:29] <Vegeta^> Why is it that the system doesn't mount a usbdisk automatically, it says that I need to be a root user, but it didn't say that before I unmounted and then mounted. It always used to mount the disk when I pluged it in, without the need to mount it like a root user. I'm using (kde) ubuntu dist.
[01:31] <tekoraik> hola
[01:32] <tekoraik> tengo un problema con kubuntu, este no se me apaga, y siempre cuando inicio de nuevo se me abre dvdauthor automaticamente
[01:32] <tekoraik> alguien me puede ayudar?
[01:32] <hyper> !es
[01:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:33] <theresa> abattoir: alright, thanks! a fortnight ain't too long, is it?! ;)
[01:33] <Momal> How to move windows down that the title bar is up above the top of the screen?
[01:33] <hyper> !es > tekoraik
[01:34] <cpk2> Momal: can you scroll the screen up with your mouse?
[01:35] <Momal> cpk2: nope
[01:35] <KDEfanboy> Momal: either press Alt+F3 and go down to "move" then move it with the cursor
[01:35] <Momal> alt+f3 didn't do anything :S
[01:36] <KDEfanboy> and/or setup Control Center -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Window Actions and change a 'inner window.."  combination to 'move'
[01:36] <KDEfanboy> Momal: should open up the menu for kwin. is it running?
[01:37] <Momal> alt+click and move... thanks :)
[01:37] <Momal> kwin isn't thats why didn't show up.. Im running beryl and emerald at the moment ^^
[01:37] <Momal> but in the window actions bit found key combo and worked fine :D.. thanks
[01:37] <zorglu_> Momal: what is emerald ?
[01:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi buddies? doesn't exists a way of syncro gmail contact online with kontacts in linux?
[01:37] <Momal> theme manager used with beryl
[01:37] <Momal> !beryl
[01:37] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[01:38] <zorglu_> ok
[01:38] <KDEfanboy> Momal: probably better to ask window management questions in there then
[01:40] <Momal> I asked here because of KDE... it was the alt+click in KDE that made it move no in Beryl
[01:41] <kiko> bueno estoy en canales de habla hispana y no contesta ni el papa algun hispano hablante please
[01:41] <KDEfanboy> Momal: no, that's handled by the window manager. beryl's default combination for move is alt+click
[01:41] <Momal> arr.. well was lucky it was the same then :)
[01:42] <abattoir> theresa: a lot can change in 15s.... 15 days is too long ;) 14, to be accurate
[01:44] <theresa> abattoir: true, let's hope for the better ;)
[01:44] <abattoir> theresa: heh, indeed ;)
[01:44] <abattoir> theresa: tbh, edgy has been highly stable here
[01:44] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to make kopete use the 'usual kde' osd (the one on top right of the screen) instead of the custom one (on bottom left) ?
[01:45] <theresa> abattoir: what would you say is the best feature/improvement on edgy? what should I look forward to? i mean the artwork looks really amazing :)
[01:45] <cpk2> how stable is upgrading in ubuntu anyways?
[01:45] <cpk2> is one guarenteed to have at least a few problems when dist upgrading?
[01:46] <vi_> How do I upgrade KDE. I have 3.5.2 now.
[01:46] <abattoir> theresa: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Beta/Kubuntu might explain it better, it's for the beta(we are close to RC time now)
[01:47] <abattoir> cpk2: no nothing like that
[01:47] <abattoir> cpk2: that doesnt mean its guaranteed that you won't run into problems ;)
[01:47] <abattoir> vi_: you want to upgrade to 3.5.5 ?
[01:47] <cpk2> i guess it wont be too bad as long as I can keep all of my settings
[01:48] <cpk2> thats my biggest petpeeve maybe
[01:48] <cpk2> having to reconfigure kde and whatnot if something goes bad
[01:48] <abattoir> cpk2: its always better to keep a backup of important data
[01:48] <cpk2> well I have /home on its own partition
[01:50] <vi_> abattoir: I think I want 3.5.5. Can I do it with Adept?
[01:50] <abattoir> vi_: sure
[01:50] <abattoir> vi_: open adept, Adept->Manage Repositories
[01:51] <psb154> vi_ take a look at: www.kubuntu.org/announcements
[01:51] <theresa> abattoir: oh yeah, I'm soooo looking forward to it! my only worry is that my programs won't be working on edgy anymore....
[01:51] <abattoir> theresa: what programs are those?
[01:53] <theresa> abattoir: just general worry.....any non-kde application...
[01:53] <abattoir> theresa: weird, i wonder what makes you think that
[01:54] <livingdaylight> !repos
[01:54] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:54] <vi_> abattoir: I am looking at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php. But why do I have to add special repositories for every KDE version?
[01:54] <livingdaylight> !souce-o-matic
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about souce-o-matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <theresa> abattoir: don't know.....probably because i'm a linux beginner....and haven't been in that situation.......i started directly with dapper.....two days after daper came out....
[01:54] <abattoir> vi_: you can use the kde-latest repo instead
[01:54] <livingdaylight> !source-o-matic
[01:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:55] <abattoir> vi_: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[01:55] <CVirus> !math
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about math - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <CVirus> !kcharselect
[01:56] <ubotu> kcharselect: character selector for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 69 kB, installed size 332 kB
[01:56] <abattoir> theresa: i'd be surprised if something broke... so expect everything to work ;)
[01:57] <theresa> abattoir: excellent, that's a relief! :)
[01:57] <osh_> !kde
[01:57] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:58] <vi_> abattoir: Thanks. And it's no problem to update from 3.5.2 to 3.5.5?
[01:58] <abattoir> vi_: none that i've heard of
[01:58] <livingdaylight> i still don't get it: using source-o-matic for kubuntu do you add at the end of existing repos or replace?
[01:59] <livingdaylight> i don't see in the script i've been given universe and multiuniverse
[01:59] <livingdaylight> so, its gotta be an add on?
[01:59] <livingdaylight> abattoir: hi, just reinstalled Kubuntu :|
[02:00] <livingdaylight> abattoir: haven't even dared go into system setttings
[02:00] <abattoir> livingdaylight: ugh... why????
[02:00] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i wasn't happy with it
[02:00] <livingdaylight> abattoir: wanted to make sure i had a really clean install
[02:01] <livingdaylight> Looking for the current repos litst
[02:01] <livingdaylight> what is the best way to add all my repos?
[02:01] <vi_> abattoir: Can I detete deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 dapper main then?
[02:02] <livingdaylight> Is doing it via Synaptic a valid and complete way?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> vi_: you only need 1 kubuntu repo if you want the latest kde for dapper
[02:02] <abattoir> vi_: if you are adding kde-latest, yes
[02:03] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me create the best repos list. Using Dapper/Kubuntu
[02:04] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: use easysource to generate a list than add the kubuntu repo if you like
[02:04] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[02:04] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:05] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: that gives me too much gpg key headaches
[02:05] <CVirus> !kbfx
[02:05] <ubotu> kbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features
[02:06] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: it tells you how to fix that at the top of the page
[02:06] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: any non-ubuntu repo you will have a gpg error until you download the gpg key for the repo
[02:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !ldap
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <ypsila> hello
[02:11] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: actually, i've found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu straightforward to use
[02:11] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: don't know what i'm missing now, though
[02:11] <livingdaylight> anyone know about riedels repos?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: they are on kubuntu.org
[02:12] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: ok :)
[02:15] <berkes> fwiw, I just created a kubuntu group on the social bookmark site simpy http://www.simpy.com/group/898
[02:15] <berkes> feel free to join if you're a simpy user
[02:20] <livingdaylight> is there an equivalent to the command killall gnome-panel? killall kde-panel maybe?
[02:21] <insanekane> livingdaylight: killall kicker
[02:21] <Dasnipa`> did i hear something like an end of oct release date?
[02:21] <livingdaylight> insanekane: thank you
[02:21] <Cybertinus> hello
[02:21] <Dasnipa`> release on halloween lol that would be cool
[02:22] <Cybertinus> I just installed Kubuntu on my second computer.
[02:22] <Cybertinus> but the installation went a bit wierd
[02:23] <Cybertinus> because windows in on the first disk, and ubuntu on the second
[02:23] <Cybertinus> the Kubuntu installation sees it correctly
[02:23] <Cybertinus> Grub is installed on the second disk, ntldr on the first disk
[02:24] <Cybertinus> so to have everything working correctly, I must boot from the second disk
[02:24] <Cybertinus> then the disks are swaped for grub. So Grub thinks that Kubuntu is on the first disk, and Windows on the second
[02:24] <gupta> which file to edit  for setting window manager independent, user-specific startup programs ??
[02:25] <Cybertinus> that is swaped back when Kubuntu is booted (so Windows is /dev/hda, Kubuntu is /dev/hdc)
[02:25] <Cybertinus> But when there is a kernel upgrade, apt-get fixes /boot/grub/menu.lst automaticaly for me
[02:25] <Cybertinus> but the disks are entered wrong
[02:26] <Cybertinus> how do I solve that, so that menu.lst stays correct?
[02:26] <Cybertinus> a long question :). Sorry for that
[02:29] <zorglu_> gupta: ~/.bashrc would do it
[02:30] <Cybertinus> gupta: or maybe /etc/rc.local, if it may run at boottime
[02:30] <zorglu_> and not 'user-specific' :)
[02:31] <Cybertinus> ah, true. /etc/rc.local is for all the users. My mistake. Sorry :)
[02:31] <sF|Xemanth> rc.local is for the root
[02:31] <Cybertinus> ~/.bashrc then :)
[02:35] <Cybertinus> anybody an idea for my problem?
[02:36] <zorglu_> i believe you can tune that with the 'map' in grub
[02:36] <zorglu_> but the how to do it is out of my knowledge :)
[02:37] <gupta> bashrc -- hmmm yes this should work.. thanks!
[02:37] <gupta> actually in my case its zshrc ;)
[02:37] <zorglu_> :)
[02:38] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:38] <zorglu_> Cybertinus: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Linux/Linux_Setup/Q_20736369.html and search 'map' you will see how to fix it
[02:39] <gupta> zorglu_: One question : will this require for me to fire konsole first?
[02:39] <zorglu_> Cybertinus: before trying, keep a working livecb around and backup the file :) it helps a lot in case of error :)
[02:39] <zorglu_> gupta: it will be launched everytime you launch a shell
[02:39] <gupta> hmm
[02:39] <_Caleb_> sup people
[02:39] <zorglu_> gupta: so it will be launch at every kconsole
[02:40] <zorglu_> gupta: maybe at the X login too, unsure about that
[02:40] <gupta> well then zshrc won't work :(
[02:40] <Cybertinus> zorglu_: thnx, gonna check it out
[02:40] <zorglu_> gupta: what do you wanna do
[02:41] <gupta> user-specific , window manager independent startup programs
[02:41] <gupta> startup programs - that start once
[02:42] <gupta> zshrc would launch them again and again
[02:42] <zorglu_> i dont understand what you want exactly
[02:43] <zorglu_> you can look at ~/.xsession or xsessionrc too
[02:43] <gupta> ok, I'll look around , thanks for trying
[02:49] <Dsbeerf> Hi, someone can take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/ and tell me what wrong mplayer is not in repos when i do apt-get install mplayer
[02:50] <livingdaylight> Using Synaptic i've got a dialog box pop up asking if i want to install package files only? Should i tick this? What else and other than package files could it install that i'd want?
[02:52] <zorglu_> !info mplayer
[02:52] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[02:52] <livingdaylight> can someone please tell me - synaptic is waiting to install
[02:52] <zorglu_> Dsbeerf: it is a multiverse repository
[02:52] <zorglu_> !universe
[02:52] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:53] <zorglu_> Dsbeerf: read the above link to know how to add multivrese repository
[02:53] <livingdaylight> Kaffeine is The Ultimate Movie Player - i'm sorry, but common!
[02:53] <livingdaylight> Using Synaptic i've got a dialog box pop up asking if i want to install package files only? Should i tick this? What else and other than package files could it install that i'd want?
[02:54] <saki> !wma
[02:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:54] <Dsbeerf> zorglu_: multiverse is enable
[02:54] <livingdaylight> Using Synaptic i've got a dialog box pop up asking if i want to install package files only? Should i tick this? What else and other than package files could it install that i'd want?
[02:54] <zorglu_> Dsbeerf: have you done 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[02:54] <DocTomoe> does anyone know what's up with kde-apps/look?
[02:55] <Dsbeerf> zorglu_: yes
[02:55] <livingdaylight> Using Synaptic i've got a dialog box pop up asking if i want to install package files only? Should i tick this? What else and other than package files could it install that i'd want?
[02:55] <livingdaylight> it must be lunch time
[02:55] <livingdaylight> or bed time...
[02:56] <Cybertinus> or "nobody knows"-time ;)
[02:56] <livingdaylight> or its a really tough question....
[02:56] <Dsbeerf> zorglu_: look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/ you will see my repos and update is done i dont understand
[02:56] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: do you use synaptic?
[02:56] <livingdaylight> if asked if you want to install package files only would you say yes or no?
[02:56] <zorglu_> Dsbeerf: me neither... :(
[02:57] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: yes. For the first time today :). I installed Kubuntu for the first time today :). I normaly use Gentoo ;)
[02:57] <_Caleb_> heh
[02:57] <_Caleb_> i was gonna use arch
[02:57] <_Caleb_> but it didnt like the video on this laptop
[02:57] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: hey, me too! well yesterday but had to reinstall fresh today again
[02:57] <_Caleb_> and kept taking a huge dump on me
[02:58] <Cybertinus> I installed Kubuntu on the PC of my little brother, so he can get to know Linux
[02:58] <Cybertinus> I keep using Gentoo on my machine ;)
[02:58] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: if asked if you wanted to install package files only would you say yes or no?
[02:58] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: aha...so its good enough for the 'little' brother but not good enough for you, huh? ;)
[02:58] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: I don't know exactly what is meant by "package files".
[02:59] <_Caleb_> i dont think it installs em
[02:59] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: aguess, i don't either, thats why i'm asking
[02:59] <_Caleb_> just downloads em and does nothing
[02:59] <livingdaylight> seriously guys, please, help!
[02:59] <livingdaylight> Using Synaptic i've got a dialog box pop up asking if i want to install package files only? Should i tick this? What else and other than package files could it install that i'd want?
[02:59] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: indeed :). I like the flexibilty of Gentoo. I don't gonna use Kubuntu on my computer :)
[02:59] <livingdaylight> if asked if you want to install package files only would you say yes or no?
[02:59] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: i don't do yoga
[03:00] <zorglu_> well if you want to install the pacakge, you say yes
[03:00] <zorglu_> else you say no
[03:00] <livingdaylight> zorglu_: no, the question is package file only!
[03:00] <zorglu_> i dont use synaptic, i use adept or apt-get
[03:00] <livingdaylight> zorglu_: which leads me to ask what else besides the package file could it install that i want or dont want
[03:00] <_Caleb_> click no
[03:01] <zorglu_> or yes
[03:01] <_Caleb_> all it would do is download the files
[03:01] <zorglu_> or better read the doc :)
[03:01] <livingdaylight> _Caleb_: thx
[03:01] <_Caleb_> nothing else it seems
[03:01] <_Caleb_> or that
[03:01] <_Caleb_> read the docs
[03:01] <Dr_willis> a lot of packages have 'reccomended' related pacaages.
[03:01] <Dsbeerf> someone can take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/ and tell me what wrong mplayer is not in repos when i do apt-get install mplayer :(
[03:01] <_Caleb_> and adept seems so much easier to use than synaptic
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Like the GRIP front end and the tools it uses.
[03:02] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: so, the answer is yes, or no? whats best?
[03:02] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: i don't want dead stuff floating around
[03:03] <mikki> need some help with xgl, have installed it but cant se any cool effects :(
[03:03] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: i tried Sabayon, which as you know is Gentoo based. But aguess it aint Gentoo though, right?
[03:04] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  dead stuff.. vs stuff that tool may use for specific options... you decide beased on what you want.. pick no then.
[03:04] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: I have downloaded the Sabayon LiveCD. I haven't booted it (yet). So I have no experience with Sabayon :)
[03:04] <kaytek> Hi, i'm completly n00b. Can somebody tell me how modify /boot/grub/menu.lst ? It says that i don't have rights to modify this file.
[03:04] <Dr_willis> I just downloaded that livecd. :P
[03:05] <livingdaylight> kaytek: you have to be root when you modify
[03:05] <Cybertinus> kaytek: sudo <editor> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:05] <Dr_willis> kaytek,  sudo text-editor-that-youlike /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:05] <Dr_willis> kaytek,  backup that file first. Just in case
[03:05] <kaytek> Thanks.
[03:05] <Cybertinus> indeed, thats a good idea Dr_willis :)
[03:05] <kaytek> I'll try
[03:05] <mikki> !xgl
[03:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:06] <livingdaylight> sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup
[03:06] <kaytek> thank you
[03:06] <_Caleb_> Cybertinus: saybayon use to be the rr4 cd and dvd that used gentoo
[03:06] <_Caleb_> so you know it already
[03:07] <Cybertinus> _Caleb_: what is rr4?
[03:07] <_Caleb_> gentoo livedvd and cd
[03:07] <_Caleb_> he changed the name to sabayon
[03:07] <Dr_willis> the download for SabayonLinux-x86-3.1-miniEdition.iso  just finished. :P
[03:08] <Cybertinus> _Caleb_: ah, k. Learned something today then :)
[03:09] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: then I think that Sabayon is as much of Gentoo, as Ubuntu is Debian :)
[03:10] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[03:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:10] <tarik> how can i instal tvcard ?
[03:10] <Dsbeerf> someone can take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/ and tell me what wrong mplayer is not in repos when i do apt-get install mplayer :(
[03:10] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: yea, i can see that. Sabayon is not stable, i can tell you that much. At least Opera just kept crashing
[03:10] <kaytek> Ubuntu should detect you tvcard automaticly
[03:10] <kaytek> *youur
[03:10] <kaytek> *your
[03:11] <tarik> but it didn't
[03:11] <saki> anyone know how to convert wma to mp3 in kubuntu?
[03:12] <kaytek> Ow, i've got one more problem. How to play music on kubuntu? System sounds works ok, but i can't play music...
[03:12] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: I try to boot Sabayon in VMWare now :) (but it failed and just booted the OS that is on the VMWare disk :S)
[03:12] <tarik> my tv card is v-stream tv878
[03:12] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: hehe...nice start!
[03:12] <kaytek> Maybe there's no drivers to your tvcard.
[03:12] <Cybertinus> kaytek: I had the same problem today too. AmaroK didn't play mp3's, XMMS did
[03:12] <larson9999> that's a  bttv
[03:13] <kaytek> I found something about that in google
[03:13] <tarik> larson:can you help me
[03:13] <tarik> i download tvtime,and oder programs
[03:13] <tarik> but nothing
[03:13] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: i hope you like lots of orange too! Actually, i had no issues installingt it. And i was even quite slick i thought, with the recent kde 3.5.5 i think, but yea...i dunno, prefer kubuntu :)
[03:13] <kaytek> it says, that i could download libaries by apt-get install blah blah :P
[03:14] <saki> kaytek: install the codecs
[03:14] <saki> just go get automatix and use it to install codecs
[03:14] <saki> they'll play
[03:14] <saki> :D'
[03:14] <kaytek> No...
[03:14] <kaytek> It's not that problem
[03:14] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: i hope you like Orange!
[03:15] <larson9999> tarik, well, i'm on windows now but if memeory serves me, i just downloaded a few tv viewers.  do an apt-cache search bttv and see what that turns up.  a google search of bttv and linux would do it too.
[03:15] <kaytek> I read that i need libaries
[03:15] <Dr_willis> kaytek,  what kind of music are you refering to?
[03:15] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: I know why Sabayon didn't boot: I told VMWare to use a .torrent file as a CD-drive, and not the Sabayon iso. For some strange reason that doesn't work :p. Trying to find The Sabayon .iso now :)
[03:15] <Dr_willis> for mp3 stuff theres different add on packages.. depending on the program you re playing with
[03:16] <Dr_willis> Cybertinus,  Hmm.. I cant get the iso to boot under vmware either.
[03:16] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: lol
[03:16] <kaytek> I'm playing mp3s on amaroK
[03:16] <Dr_willis> Cybertinus,  i got the mini iso..
[03:16] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[03:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:16] <kaytek> Ok, i found something
[03:16] <kaytek> I need... that: libxine-extracodecs + lame
[03:16] <tarik> thx larson
[03:17] <kaytek> from where i can download this?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> !info lame
[03:17] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[03:17] <kaytek> I know, what it is.
[03:17] <Dr_willis> set up the right repos.. and apt-get install them
[03:17] <kaytek> I tried
[03:17] <Dr_willis> note the    "In component multiverse, "
[03:17] <kaytek> It dosn't works
[03:17] <kaytek> doesn't*
[03:17] <Dr_willis> Then i am guesisng you did somthing wrong.
[03:18] <Dr_willis> could go to that easy repo site and let it set up yur apt sources list..
[03:18] <kaytek> No, it says, that libxine-extracodecs doesn't exist
[03:18] <Dr_willis> you DID 'sudo apt-get update'  after editing the sources list?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> !info libxine-extracodecs
[03:18] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[03:18] <Dr_willis> lets see
[03:18] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: oh, and no #Sabayon channel? :0
[03:19] <Dr_willis> kaytek,  double check your  sources.list , try the sudo apt-get update, apt-get upgrade stuff..  then try again.
[03:20] <kaytek> Ok, i'll try
[03:20] <livingdaylight> cpk2: hey, you still alive?
[03:20] <livingdaylight> ping cpk2
[03:20] <tarik> can someone help me,my system on tvcard is pal bg,but in tvtime i can chose just pal,pal60,pall...not pal b/g?
[03:21] <kaytek> Ok, nothing. I'll try do something by myself, thanks guys, especially Dr_willis. Bye.
[03:21] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: :)
[03:22] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me the command for finding the working version of, well, anything, java in my case
[03:22] <Dr_willis> java -version
[03:22] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: how do ya like it?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  clarify the problem. :) its a little.. vagie
[03:23] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: i want to know what my working version of java is. Yesterday i installed sun-java 1.5 but i had a 1.4 version running for some reason, which meant my browser wasn't configured with java
[03:23] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: no, I lost sabayon.iso :S. Gonna start the torrent again :)
[03:24] <livingdaylight> !paste
[03:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:24] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  java -version   - shows wht one is ran by default.. theres that update-alternatives command to change what default java binaries your system uses .
[03:24] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: see what i mean? output java -version http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26428/
[03:25] <_Caleb_> w00t
[03:25] <Lechero> where can i find the kubuntu calendar?
[03:25] <_Caleb_> got my resolution working
[03:25] <_Caleb_> yay
[03:25] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: yea, cpk2 gave it to me yesterday, but i need it again, coz i had to reinstall
[03:25] <Lechero> where can i find the kubuntu calendar for know when edgy will be released?
[03:25] <_Caleb_> 1280x800 w00t
[03:25] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  rember this --->  !java
[03:25] <Dr_willis> your problem is detailed tehre.
[03:26] <livingdaylight> where?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)       --> NOT the sun java
[03:26] <Dr_willis> !java
[03:26] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:26] <Dr_willis> rember this --->  !java  :)
[03:26] <Dr_willis> i never can rember the command either.
[03:26] <tarik> can someone help me,my system on tvcard is pal bg,but in tvtime i can chose just pal,pal60,pall...not pal b/g?
[03:26] <livingdaylight> it was a hell of a long command
[03:26] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  so? :)
[03:26] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: hmm. I try to add Sabayon in KTorrent, but he tells me I'm already uploading it :S. Where The HELL is that .iso file then? :S
[03:27] <livingdaylight> hehe
[03:27] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: and KTorrent is right, I already am uploading it, so the .iso file must be somewhere on my disk
[03:27] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: sorry, i'm the kubuntu little-brother noob :)
[03:27] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: lol
[03:28] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: hehe
[03:28] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: but i did install sun-java 1.5 - you do realize?
[03:30] <Dr_willis> but DID you update the alternatives?
[03:30] <Kokos> hi, anybody tell me, is there any website with a list of the most popular gl action games on linux? like chromium... gltron...
[03:31] <Dr_willis> Kokos,  the Linux Game Tome is nice to explore.
[03:31] <Dr_willis> but its all games
[03:31] <Kokos> oh... is there any ranking of hmm... most popular games?
[03:32] <Dr_willis> never noticed any.. how would you even get the rankings. :P
[03:33] <Dr_willis> Tremulus was fun for a while..  then theres a lot of other GPL'ed Quake3 source code spinnoffs comming out every month
[03:33] <Dr_willis> do those count? :)
[03:33] <Kokos> i saw this site... i cannot see any categories unfortunately..
[03:34] <Lechero> where can i find the kubuntu calendar for know when edgy will be released?
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !schedule
[03:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:35] <gnomefreak> Lechero: oct 26th i believe
[03:35] <Dr_willis> if the past is any indication.. it gets relased like on the same day.  I think thats what happened last time
[03:35] <Dr_willis> same day as ubuntu i mean
[03:37] <Lechero> gnomefreak: thanks
[03:37] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:39] <_thumper_> thanks to whomever update kde-latest :)
[03:39] <_thumper_> s/update/updated/
[03:41] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: found Sabayon LiveCD. It was in ~/Screenshots for some reason :S :p
[03:43] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: thats what i used  - not the dvd version
[03:44] <flaccid_> is there #kubuntu-bitchaboutgirlfriends
[03:44] <flaccid_> i'd love if there was
[03:44] <_Caleb_> lol
[03:44] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: apparently Sabayon is an Italian dessert. I've nver had it, but i want to know :)
[03:44] <_Caleb_> pm someone and bitch about it with them
[03:44] <_Caleb_> hell pm me
[03:44] <_Caleb_> not sure ill respond but you can send it
[03:44] <_Caleb_> if it helps
[03:44] <livingdaylight> hahaha
[03:44] <flaccid_> hehe
[03:44] <flaccid_> i guess over over it
[03:44] <flaccid_> for tonight
[03:45] <livingdaylight> flaccid_: have you tried #ubuntuforums ?
[03:45] <flaccid_> nope
[03:45] <flaccid_> i'll just hang here to take mind off
[03:45] <_Caleb_> well thats good dont let it bother you
[03:46] <_Caleb_> women are evil creatures
[03:47] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: gonna make a new VMWare disk, so I can install it, to experiment some more. LiveCD looks nice :)
[03:51] <tarik> how can i instal kernel
[03:51] <tarik> i have download it
[03:54] <tarik> i have a problem,
[03:54] <Sharketor> hello all
[03:55] <tarik> i am missing file /lib/modules... autoconf.h
[03:55] <Sharketor> someone knows a podcaster for kubuntu?
[03:55] <Dr_willis> tarik,  we may ask What exactly are you trying to do?
[03:55] <flaccid_> _Caleb_: yeah its a catch 222 like life is
[03:57] <Sharketor> a podcaster????
[03:57] <CVirus> I need another way to download partial pieces of a torrent other than Ktorrent ... as its crashing
[03:58] <flaccid_> !azureus
[03:58] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:58] <_Caleb_> use rtorrent
[03:58] <_Caleb_> !rtorrent
[03:58] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.2-1 (dapper), package size 152 kB, installed size 448 kB
[03:58] <Dr_willis> wine utorrent.exe
[03:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:58] <thelostbyte_> Know a good blog system, out there ?
[03:59] <flaccid_> !wordpress
[03:59] <ubotu> wordpress: an award winning weblog manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2 (dapper), package size 490 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[03:59] <thelostbyte_> flaccid_, thankz
[03:59] <jose> hi
[03:59] <flaccid_> np
[04:02] <tarikb> i have a problem,
[04:02] <tarikb> i am missing file /lib/modules... autoconf.h
[04:06] <lestat> heloo
[04:06] <lestat> jest ktos mowiacy po polskiemu? :)
[04:07] <lestat> jesli ktokolwiek rozumie co mowie to prosze o kontakt
[04:07] <v3ctor> !pl
[04:07] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:07] <lestat> dzieki
[04:11] <rcurtis> quick question about printer setup in Kubunu Dapper - this box was upgraded from Breezy
[04:11] <red_> How do I edit the GRUB menu
[04:12] <pakair> see /etc/grub/grub.conf
[04:12] <rcurtis> when I open the System Settings->Printers and select Add Printer/Class - Network Printer is grayed out
[04:13] <rcurtis> this used to be available in Breezy and is available in Edgy (I believe) - any ideas why my setup doesnt have it?
[04:17] <larson999> catching up on my rss feeds from last week.  funny how they all say the google buying youtube will never happen and the story is a fake
[04:21] <slow-motion> re
[04:22] <gupta> how can I know whether Kdm vis using/calling the ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession file?
[04:22] <rafa> #kubuntu-es
[04:29] <omar> H guys, I am trying to mount a folder from other kubuntu, I don't have any trouble with windows, I use : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.34/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o urd=omar, but it's not working  for another linux, what should I change in the line
[04:30] <flaccid> did you try smbfs instead of cifs, omar?
[04:31] <omar> flaccid yes I tried , but I get this Error connecting to 192.168.1.34 (Connection refused)
[04:33] <letmagnau> hi
[04:34] <letmagnau> can anyone help me with ktraslator?
[04:34] <gupta> !xsession
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsession - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <gupta> !.xsession
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsession - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <letmagnau> can anyone help me with ktraslator?
[04:36] <omar> H guys, I am trying to mount a folder from other kubuntu, I don't have any trouble with windows, I use : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.34/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o urd=omar, but it's not working  for another linux, what should I change in the line
[04:38] <v3ctor> s/urd=omar/uid=omar/
[04:39] <omar> v3ctor: did get you? what's that?
[04:41] <v3ctor> did you use urd or uid?
[04:42] <omar> v3ctor: this is what I am doing "sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.34/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o urd=omar"
[04:42] <v3ctor> urd is invalid option
[04:42] <v3ctor> it should be uid
[04:43] <omar> v3ctor: I got mount error 111 =" Connection refused" and "Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)" with uid
[04:43] <danny500> hey V3ctor whats up
[04:44] <v3ctor> hi danny500
[04:45] <danny500> how you doing?
[04:45] <v3ctor> good
[04:45] <v3ctor> u?
[04:45] <danny500> same here
[04:46] <omar> ubotu: I am trying to share a Linux folder not a windows
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I am trying to share a Linux folder not a windows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <danny500> do you know were I would find the passwords file for aMSN
[04:47] <omar> v3ctor: I am trying to share a linux folder not a windows one
[04:47] <danny500> whats your prob?
[04:47] <v3ctor> don't use amsn...sorry
[04:47] <danny500> omar
[04:47] <danny500> o ok
[04:48] <danny500> omar, what your prob again?
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <v3ctor> lol
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <v3ctor> give him a sec
[04:49] <danny500> ok
[04:49] <danny500> lol
[04:49] <danny500> lol
[04:49] <danny500> lol
[04:49] <danny500> lol
[04:49] <danny500> jk
[04:49] <danny500> oooooooommmaaaaaaarrrrrrrr
[04:49] <omar> danny500 I am trying to share folders from linux to linux
[04:50] <danny500> what are you using to do that with?
[04:50] <danny500> Network connection?
[04:50] <omar> danny500 yes network
[04:50] <jam603> Is the proper place to ask a Kubuntu question?
[04:50] <danny500> yes
[04:50] <omar> danny500 sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.34/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o uid=omar
[04:51] <Chadwick|359> Any way to refresh the program cache in Katapult without restarting kde?
[04:51] <v3ctor> this is the place to ask a proper kubuntu question
[04:51] <danny500> on the system tray, go to "system" then "Prefrences" then click on "Remote Desktop" ok omar
[04:51] <jam603> Thank you, my question is this, is there a reason that
[04:51] <felixjet> omar: udo mount -t cifs -o uid=omar //192.168.1.34/home/ronny/ronnyfiles /media/hd4/evol
[04:51] <felixjet> but i dont know if it works like that
[04:52] <felixjet> i use it to my ntfs partition
[04:52] <jam603> sorry
[04:52] <felixjet> for net i use samba
[04:52] <danny500> yeah , I use samba to
[04:52] <v3ctor> jam603: just jump in..no aplogies needed
[04:52] <jam603> is there a reason that kpilot is not installed by default in kubuntu 6.06.01?
[04:52] <v3ctor> apology*
[04:53] <fildo> !java
[04:53] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:53] <omar> danny500 I am there
[04:53] <felixjet> omar: go to system:/remote and click on add net directory
[04:53] <felixjet> put "system:/remote" on alt+f2 menu
[04:53] <jam603> and why can't I install it from adept?  It's greyed out...
[04:53] <danny500> ok, omar, hold on
[04:54] <v3ctor> jam603: seems to be on mine
[04:54] <_Caleb_> hmmm
[04:54] <danny500> nm that won't work omar
[04:54] <_Caleb_> easiest way to play dvd's
[04:54] <_Caleb_> kaffeince wont play cause its copyrighted
[04:54] <_Caleb_> or whatever
[04:54] <danny500> go to your shared folders setup
[04:55] <danny500> omar
[04:55] <omar> danny500 yes I am here
[04:55] <felixjet> omar: do, it
[04:55] <felixjet> put "system:/remote" on alt+f2 menu
[04:55] <danny500> click on one of them and edit the properties.
[04:55] <omar> danny500 yes I am there already
[04:55] <felixjet> lmao
[04:56] <jam603> v3ctor: could I have messed somethinf up in the installation?
[04:56] <danny500> tell it to share with smb
[04:56] <danny500> it should then install samba and it should work for you
[04:56] <omar> danny500 I installed samba yesterday
[04:56] <v3ctor> jam603: i doubt it
[04:56] <danny500> omar, whats your vncviewer address?
[04:56] <v3ctor> jam603: open up konsole
[04:57] <jam603> v3ctor: it's open
[04:57] <v3ctor> sudo aptitude update
[04:57] <danny500> omar, whats your vncviewr address?
[04:57] <v3ctor> aptitude search kpilot
[04:58] <omar> danny500 look I have two machines here, both with kubuntu , those are connected to my modem, so they are in the network, the Ip of the other one is 192.168.1.34, I want to share one folder
[04:58] <v3ctor> _Caleb_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[04:59] <ypsila> hello
[04:59] <jam603> v3ctor: updates are all done, then the aptitude search kpilot command returns nothing
[04:59] <v3ctor> you must be missing a repo
[04:59] <jam603> ok
[04:59] <v3ctor> 1 sec
[05:00] <_Caleb_> thanks v3ctor
[05:01] <v3ctor> _Caleb_: np
[05:01] <danny500> well then omar, I don't think i can help you sorry
[05:01] <danny500> sorry bud
[05:01] <jam603> Nickerson
[05:02] <jam603> wrong screen
[05:04] <rafa> #kubuntu-es
[05:05] <v3ctor> jam603: make sure you have universe repo
[05:06] <jam603> I'm unfamiliar with that, sorry...  Is there something I can read to show me how to verify that I have it?
[05:07] <v3ctor> !repos
[05:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:09] <thompa> can someone help me with boot errors 18, 16 on sata?
[05:10] <livingdaylight> is there a consensus on what is best for multimedia. Its confusing me. gstreamer is for totem? but we don't use totem in kubuntu. I like Kaffeine, what would the proprietary codecs i need for that?
[05:10] <thompa> also on repower it booted into kubuntu without asking me for login
[05:11] <jam603> v3ctor: that helps.  I'll try it on my own from here.  Thank you for your help.  This is easlily one of the nicest distrobutions I have EVER used.
[05:11] <v3ctor> good luck
[05:12] <thompa> how can i reinstall grub so it goes to the other hard drive?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> edit the menu.lst and rerun update-grub is one way
[05:13] <Dr_willis> but that wont remove the bootloader off the first hard drive
[05:13] <thompa> Dr_willis: ya, im totally lost as to what the problem is
[05:13] <livingdaylight> why are root priviledges requred to change screen resolution? Surely, any user is entitled to change that according to their need?!
[05:13] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  i can change them on the fly as a user.
[05:13] <mooey> hi. i'm trying to fix a bug which addresses some default browser issues. does kde have an equivalent of gnome-open / gnome-www-browser?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> its a X configuration issue/option.
[05:14] <thompa> Dr_willis: my ide drive boots fine , using the sata gives me tons of errors
[05:14] <Dr_willis> thompa,  what sort of errors?
[05:14] <thompa> if i could narrow this down is all, error  16, 18 grub errors
[05:15] <thompa> on 2nd repower i saw system unstable then it booted into kubuntu without asking for login
[05:15] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: well, i can't change them anywhich way :(
[05:15] <thompa> checking dmesg right now
[05:16] <Dr_willis> thompa,  odd..
[05:16] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  i forget the option needed to mess with them. xrandr perhaps..  livingdaylight  what video card do you have?
[05:16] <thompa> hp box, the sata cmae with it, i just did a bios update so its not that
[05:17] <thompa> i think its the motherboard sata controller possible
[05:17] <Dr_willis> thompa,  i had issued with ubuntu on my sata drive.. grub was geting the drives out of order. I had to  edi the /boot/grub/device.map
[05:17] <thompa> im getting this across distros
[05:17] <Dr_willis> thompa,  that does sound like a mb/driver/quirk
[05:18] <v3ctor> thompa: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[05:18] <thompa> ive installed them in different orders, now the IDE boots first and gives me grub, I installed kubuntu on the sata
[05:18] <thompa> so i guess it wrote to the other drive
[05:19] <thompa> v3ctor: thanks, ive gone through the error guide
[05:19] <thompa> creating a /boot does not help either
[05:19] <v3ctor> thompa: it describes mapping your disks in a different order
[05:19] <thompa> all i can do is install onto IDE with sata controller disabled, then use the sata as storage after install
[05:20] <thompa> v3ctor: ok ill look again
[05:20] <Dr_willis> thompa,  you are just wanting grub to  install to hda?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Usage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device
[05:20] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: by video card you mean graphics card? That would be nvidia 6600Gt (agp)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  you installed the nvidia drivers for it yet? Im using a Nvidia 6800
[05:21] <fabio> oi
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Oi Vey?
[05:22] <thompa> v3ctor: ive had miost of these errors, and Ive had different map situations on grub
[05:22] <scott_> does anyone know how to intall macromedia flash player?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !flash
[05:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:23] <thompa> i thought if grub is on the IDE now the sata should boot, hence I installed on sata last
[05:23] <thompa> so the mapping is correct for me
[05:23] <thompa> maybe hard drive is bad
[05:23] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: i installed nvidia-glx, is that the one you mean?
[05:24] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: Congrats on the Nvidia 6800!
[05:24] <thompa> i also got a white line going across screen on boot, if its off long time overnight or colsd problem is worse
[05:24] <fabio> alguem pode dizer algo?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  heck its an old card.. it sales for about $140 now a days.
[05:25] <Dr_willis> I paid like $400 when it first cam eout.
[05:25] <thompa> Dr_willis: im going to try a boot loader other than grub maybe that helps
[05:25] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  let me check my xorg.conf settings.
[05:26] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: hey, thats alot of money to me. I had to break the bank to pay for the 6600Gt
[05:26] <Dr_willis> thompa,  its possible grub is not seeing the drive.. ya could try the grub shell and see.
[05:26] <thompa> whats that?
[05:27] <thompa> Dr_willis: how do i get into grub shell?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. hit c for the command line i think
[05:27] <Dr_willis> grub is one of those things that has  a LOT of features and docs.. :P
[05:27] <Dr_willis> I spent a day reading them all and learning it.. but that was 5 mo ago. :)
[05:28] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  check your xorg.conf and be sure you got the various res's listed that the system can do.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x640" "640x480"
[05:28] <Dr_willis> is my systems info
[05:28] <omar> pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I wanna share a folder kubuntu-kubuntu, that's it, I have samba already
[05:29] <Dr_willis> omar,  you dont need samba for a linux to linux system,
[05:29] <thompa>  ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0) is that bad
[05:29] <Dr_willis> you can copy things over with ssh if you wanted
[05:29] <thompa> i got all sorts of sata lines in dmesg
[05:30] <Dr_willis> You can use the fish kioslave like this: fish://hostname or fish://username@hostname.    - as a Konqueror address will let you access the other box IF ssh is installed.
[05:30] <TheGateKeeper> omar system settings -> Internet & Networking --> Sharing
[05:30] <Dr_willis> thompa,  its possible that sata controler has no drivers, or flakey drivers
[05:30] <ypsila> Dr_willis: we failed exactly with the same problem
[05:30] <thompa> probably so
[05:32] <thompa> Dr_willis: i can only find out by putting another sata hard drive in, that would tell. If thats the case I can use this as storage. I see no difference between IDE and sata anyway
[05:32] <ypsila> Dr_willis: and fish didn't wok
[05:32] <livingdaylight> !paste
[05:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:33] <thompa> too bad cause the sata came with this box and my ide is only 150G
[05:33] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: they're all there. Check for yourself: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26450/ Still have the generic 'nv' driver though
[05:34] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: you're name wouldn't be Bruce by any chance?
[05:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hello? i would like to publish my contacts online on a LDAP server in such a way that a sync with my cellphone will be possible too.. do you know any website that offer free LDAP service for this purpose?
[05:34] <thompa> it works in windows fine so its probably meant so
[05:34] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  using 'nv' means you are not using the nvidia drivbers.. so that may be the whole issue
[05:35] <omar> TheGateKeeper I can see the share folders, that's nice, but the NFS option is disable, and I can't figure it out how to enable it
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !nfs
[05:35] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Install the nfs server and other tools
[05:36] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: no, because yesterday, i was able to change screen resolution as is. Infact i was delighted because over at Ubuntu that had always been an issue. However, while trying to enable nvidia-glx and Ctr+alt+backspacing my system crashed. Today i did a fresh install just to be safe but now i can't change resolution :s
[05:37] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  if your driver line is set to 'nv' then you are not using the 'nvidia' drivers.. so i dont know what else to tell you.
[05:38] <livingdaylight> I have another question guys: when i do sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf or whatever /etc/apt/sources.list i get this error:
[05:38] <livingdaylight> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26451/
[05:39] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: i'm just saying that i was able to change resolution yesterday with my xorg set at 'nv' so i don't believe the drivers are necessary
[05:39] <Dr_willis>  X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166          --------- Is due to the wacom tablet entry in the xorg.conf
[05:39] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: having said that should i just change the driver line from 'nv' to 'nvidia' ?
[05:39] <TheGateKeeper> omar install it, then go back to that gui interface I am sure it nfs too
[05:40] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  try it and see.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> When installing the various ati and nvidia drivers. i often have to set/change the res after installing them.. and ive used the  GUI tools to set the default res.
[05:40] <TheGateKeeper> omar if you are only moving small amounts of info then it doesn't really matter which you use
[05:40] <livingdaylight>  I have another question guys: when i do sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf or whatever /etc/apt/sources.list i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26451/
[05:41] <mendred> livingdaylight: use kdesu instead of sudo or use sux (if u have enabled a root account) and then run ur program
[05:41] <gemidjy> I installed kde 3.5.5 yesterday from Jonatan's repos, but they s*rewed my environment, so I want to get back to the previous installation, but I wouldn't reinstall kde by removing each kde 3.5.5 package separetly, any smarter idea?
[05:41] <Dr_willis>  Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server      - sounds like you dont have  roor permissions to access the display.
[05:41] <Dr_willis> yes.. use kdesu or sux is the best way
[05:41] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: Run Command... kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:43] <mendred> hmmm kde 3.5.5+beryl on this old laptop works like a charm..feels like i got a new machine :)
[05:43] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: that works nicely, thank you!!!
[05:43] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: if you are using the cli then use a cli editor eg. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:43] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: :-)
[05:44] <arunkale> Hey guys.. how do I play m4a files?
[05:44] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i dont get it. Sometimes sudo is alright? and other times i have to kdesu?
[05:44] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: kdesu for gui apps, sudo for cli apps
[05:44] <livingdaylight> mendred: sux? :s but thanx
[05:45] <mendred> livingdaylight: lol see sux means su + x
[05:45] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: ok, i can try and remember that distinction
[05:45] <Dr_willis> i tend to use 'sux'  :)
[05:45] <ypsila> good bye
[05:45] <Dr_willis> !info sux
[05:45] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: kate is gui so use kdesu, nano is cli so use sudo
[05:45] <livingdaylight> mendred: LOL
[05:45] <ubotu> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[05:45] <mendred> thanks dr_willis
[05:46] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: you will get used to it :-)
[05:46] <mattia> ciao a tutti
[05:46] <Dr_willis> its a bit of an old-skool program :)
[05:46] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: okey dokey, gotta know your guis from your cli's :)
[05:46] <livingdaylight> mattia: ciao bello
[05:46] <TheGateKeeper> yep :-)
[05:46] <livingdaylight> mattia: ciao la regazza
[05:46] <dala> hola
[05:46] <livingdaylight> dala: hola amigo
[05:47] <livingdaylight> !es
[05:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:47] <dala> ok
[05:47] <livingdaylight> vale?
[05:47] <dala> saludos desde mexico
[05:47] <dala> adios
[05:47] <livingdaylight> Viva Mexico!
[05:47] <dala> A Huevo!
[05:47] <TheGateKeeper> :-)
[05:48] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: I'll teach you linux, you teach me spanish lol
[05:50] <arunkale> argh my cd rom drive is such a bitch
[05:51] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: lol, that is as much as i know i'm afraid, but i love the language :D
[05:51] <TheGateKeeper> damn thought I was onto a good thing :-)
[05:54] <roman> can anyone help me? I just switched from XP to Kubuntu, just installed, and I think I overestimated myself. Linux is too advanced for me, I'm not even able to mount my harddrive number 2
[05:54] <arunkale> roman
[05:55] <arunkale> whats up
[05:55] <roman> I have some vital files there so can anyone help me mount it? Its formated in NTFS
[05:55] <roman> ey arunkale
[05:55] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:55] <roman> its frustrating, because I thought this would be easy, point and click easy
[05:55] <arunkale> check out that link
[05:55] <Dr_willis> It is rather trivial.
[05:55] <roman> i will
[05:55] <Dr_willis> depends on what you want do. :P
[05:56] <livingdaylight> do i need PLF for w32codecs and soforth?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> my fstab entry  for my NTFS drive -->  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:57] <arunkale> what's PLF?
[05:57] <roman> can't you just download something that makes the changes for you? That mounts the drives you need
[05:57] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: hang on...
[05:58] <Dr_willis> roman,  put forth a little effort man.
[05:58] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight:
[05:58] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[05:58] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[05:58] <Dr_willis> I could of edited the fstab in the time it took you to even TYPE that line.
[05:58] <roman> I don't have to inxp
[05:58] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: oh, you diamond geezer!
[05:59] <arunkale> roman, as a fellow xp user, trust me.. kubuntu is the shit.. xp is bleh compared to kubuntu
[05:59] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes <--- you forgot to bookmark this
[05:59] <arunkale> roman: and you can point and click for most things
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Its just harder to describe   click over here... then use that tab.. then below set this.. and that...
[05:59] <roman> well I just want my disk to work
[06:00] <Dr_willis> while 'edit the fstab' and put in a line like-->  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:00] <Dr_willis> is rather easy.
[06:00] <roman> well where do I write in the command you gave me Dr?
[06:00] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: actually, its not that! i did bookmark it yesterday, but just had to do a fresh installation ALL over again today of Kubuntu :(
[06:00] <Dr_willis> edit the /etc/fstab file.. look at the entrys.. MOST likely you just neeed the umask=007 option .
[06:00] <arunkale> if adept is currently updating konversation, does that mean i need to close konversation and wait for it to get updated?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  that may be a good idea.
[06:01] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: use firefox and a bookmark sync will make life easier
[06:01] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  it may work fine.. :) but still its better safe then sorry
[06:01] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: is there a sudo involved with that wget -c ?
[06:02] <TheGateKeeper> possible use sudo if the command does work as is
[06:02] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: I'm enjoying Konqueror though :) All those years of Firefox, i'm quite liking the change
[06:02] <arunkale> Dr_willis: thanks
[06:02] <TheGateKeeper> apt-get install firefox :-)
[06:02] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: doesn't?
[06:03] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: actually, i might aswell admit i used Opera since it became freely available, shhhh....
[06:03] <roman> I don't see NTFS when I type in: cat /proc/filesystems
[06:03] <TheGateKeeper> you got the wget command to work?
[06:04] <roman> I don't even know what the fuck im lookin at
[06:04] <trappist> roman: language please.
[06:04] <roman> just frustrated
[06:04] <roman> i feel tricked, this was supposed to be easy
[06:05] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: oh, yea thats done, thx hombre
[06:05] <roman> I just want to acsess my extra hard drive, is that to much to ask for?
[06:05] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: excellent :-)
[06:05] <roman> Is there a simpler linux edition than kubuntu?
[06:05] <andersen-hc> what have you tried so far, roman
[06:05] <andersen-hc> yes
[06:05] <roman> what?
[06:05] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: debianmultimedia.org huh? .... : )
[06:05] <andersen-hc> opensuse livecd would work great
[06:05] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: you could use the plf repos but that is easier & quicker
[06:05] <andersen-hc> it would mount your local home directory and your ntfs drive
[06:06] <roman> is there anything as simple as Windows XP?
[06:06] <andersen-hc> and then you can just copy it over
[06:06] <Dr_willis> or learning how the fstab and mounting system works.. is rather handy..
[06:06] <andersen-hc> yes, opensuse is as easy
[06:06] <roman> what is fstab?
[06:06] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: yep it's the debian w32codecs but will work fine
[06:06] <roman> can u send me an link andersen?
[06:06] <andersen-hc> fstab is a file that contains what drives to mount when it boots
[06:06] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: easier & quicker if you knew that long website command... Just wondering if there are others from teh PLF i would have needed?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> that ntfs urli posted  explained it.. its  the file that tells what drives are mounted where
[06:06] <andersen-hc> here you go -> http://en.opensuse.org/Live_CD
[06:07] <andersen-hc> oh wait, one sec
[06:08] <TheGateKeeper> well I use amarok for mp3 xine engine, libxine-extracodecs & w32codec & so far I have never needed anything else
[06:08] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:08] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:08] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: ^^^^^
[06:09] <Dr_willis> i wonder if edgy will fix that 'ntfs drives only readable by root' issue..or if they consider that a feature
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:10] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: yea, i had that one already ^^
[06:10] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: :-)
[06:10] <blackslash> First time useing linux, trying to install nvidia drivers. Q: How can i find out if i got binutils?
[06:10] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i think i'm good now, just wondering why Kaffeine wasn't there, hmmmm....
[06:10] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: using ntfs-3g?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  i tested out the FUSE ntfs stuff last night. it worked..
[06:11] <TheGateKeeper> ahhh
[06:11] <andersen-hc> kjsdkfjhlkjsdhf
[06:11] <Dr_willis> but the fact that the default ubuntu setup lets just root READ the ntfs drives.. is a bit of a common "faq"
[06:11] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: lol, that was strange
[06:11] <andersen-hc> bloody suse
[06:11] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: it s alrady installed
[06:11] <andersen-hc> why did they get rid of the livecd
[06:11] <Dr_willis> everyone seems to want the users to read the ntfs drives. :)
[06:11] <DoLe> my gnome login window scrolls
[06:11] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: but i did sudo apt-get install kaffeine and it said it wasn't there - but i can relax now :)
[06:11] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: :-)
[06:12] <livingdaylight> ^^
[06:12] <andersen-hc> _OK_
[06:12] <TheGateKeeper> I seen
[06:12] <andersen-hc> heresa the opensuse livecd
[06:12] <andersen-hc> although its actually a DVD
[06:12] <andersen-hc> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-dvd-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-LiveDVD.iso
[06:12] <Dr_willis> !fuse
[06:12] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:13] <DoLe> my gnome login window scrolls.someone please help me.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> you mean it has a 'virtual display' larger then the monitor. and thus scrolls left/right/up/down?
[06:14] <DoLe> yes
[06:14] <DoLe> should i set it to required resolution
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Thats rather odd..   yea.. but not sure why its using the wrong res
[06:14] <Dr_willis> your desktop dont have the same problem?
[06:15] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: do you use this to install updates: --> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:15] <DoLe> no.its fine.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[06:15] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:15] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update    && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:15] <Dr_willis> dist-upgrade is the 'hardcore' upgrade. :P
[06:15] <Dr_willis> I only use that when things seem weird.
[06:16] <DoLe> everything is uo to date.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> lets see.. to mount a ntfs drive.. in the users home dir...
[06:16] <Dr_willis> sudo mkdir NTFS_HERE
[06:16] <Dr_willis> sudo  mount  /dev/hda1 NTFS_HERE  -o umask=0007
[06:16] <Dr_willis> i THink - will work. :)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Nope.. Hmm permission denied..
[06:17] <blackslash> i just mounted in my home, now i cant open  the dir >.<
[06:18] <Dr_willis> sudo  mount  /dev/hda1 NTFS_HERE  -o umask=0007,gid=46
[06:18] <Dr_willis> there we go.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Now where did that gid=46 come from...
[06:19] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: so if I did sudo aptitude update  && sudo aptitude upgrade that would allow to install a previous version of something if they let something out that was broken?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> in /etc/groups --> plugdev:x:46:haldaemon,willis
[06:19] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  ive never had that issue..so not sure.
[06:20] <vortex_> hi all
[06:20] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: apt-get doesn't support downgrading. if that's your question.
[06:20] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: you'll have to do it manually.
[06:20] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: ok thanx it's just that I know they have screwed up with their updates on odd occasions
[06:21] <DoLe> Dr_willis thanks. Changing virtual mode fixed the scrolling.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> DoLe,  :)
[06:22] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: won't this --> sudo aptitude update  && sudo aptitude upgrade  give me the chance to uninstall the new update and reinstall the old one?
[06:22] <vortex_> I have problem with my webcam in kubuntu it look like is still on but I don't know how cen I use it!!!
[06:22] <Dr_willis> DoLe,  if using Kubuntu a lot - you proberly want to use KDM for the login manager
[06:22] <vortex_> someone can help me?
[06:22] <DoLe> KDE kept crashing so I had to switch to gnome
[06:22] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: aptitude might give you that as a proposed solution, i'm not sure. not an aptitude expert.
[06:23] <webpower_> hi all
[06:23] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: ok thanx
[06:23] <webpower_> to make safety remove of pen drive from shell, how can i do?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> umount /media/whereitsmountedto
[06:25] <Dr_willis> sudo umount /media/whereitsmountedto
[06:25] <webpower_> Dr_willis: umount doesn't drop energy
[06:25] <Dr_willis> if you MUST just unplug the thing.. err...
[06:25] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: apt-get seems to wounderfull at installing including all the dependencies, but not much good at removing depencencies when you uninstall, always seem to be left with a load of stuff you don't want
[06:25] <arunkale> Is there any OS X like skin for Kubuntu that's better than Baghira?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> sync - flush file system buffers
[06:25] <Dr_willis> run sync a few times to force the buffers to flus and get wrote to disk
[06:26] <webpower_> Dr_willis: are you talking with me?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  i often ask my self -  how can a multibillion doller company like OS-X make such a ugly gui. :)
[06:26] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  yep
[06:26] <arunkale> Dr_willis: Ugly?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> sync a few times (2-3) then unplug IF you must..
[06:26] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  very nasty ugly i think.
[06:26] <arunkale> heh
[06:26] <Dr_willis> almost as ugly as that Brushed Metal stuff they were using
[06:27] <arunkale> A lot of people seem to buy Apple computers only because of the GUI
[06:27] <Dr_willis> a Lot of people are total Idiots. :)
[06:27] <webpower_> Dr_willis: how can I know if after 2-3 secs, all data are writed on pen drive?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  sync a few times.. then it should be writtenb
[06:27] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  what does the umount command tell you anyway?
[06:27] <webpower_> ok
[06:27] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  'mount' will show whats mounted where...
[06:28] <webpower_> umount doesn't drop alimenting pen drive
[06:28] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  i dont know what you mean by 'drop'
[06:28] <Dr_willis> or alimenting. :)
[06:30] <arunkale> Dr_willis: Any browser better than Firefox for Kubuntu?
[06:30] <webpower_> using umount, pen is unmounted but elettric energy is still continuing
[06:30] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  i find Firefox to be the best...  :)
[06:30] <webpower_> using umount, led on pen drive is on
[06:30] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  if its unmounted... unplug it..
[06:31] <webpower_> using "safety remove" led is off
[06:31] <Dr_willis> my usb thing has a pwoer led.. and a flashing writeing led.
[06:31] <webpower_> I wont to set led off from shell
[06:31] <Dr_willis> saftey remove?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> you mean that  windows xp thing that no one uses? :)
[06:31] <webpower_> no
[06:31] <webpower_> also kubuntu has safety remove
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. never seen that. :P lets try
[06:32] <mendred> webpower_: use that :)
[06:32] <webpower_> try tu plug pen drive and right click
[06:32] <webpower_> on pen drive device
[06:32] <webpower_> now you can see "safety remove"
[06:32] <webpower_> if you use it, pen led gets off
[06:33] <webpower_> if you only unmount it
[06:33] <webpower_> ledi continue to be on
[06:33] <livingdaylight> what are the msttffonts called exactly?
[06:33] <livingdaylight> you know the ones i mean?
[06:34] <_Shade_> hi there
[06:34] <Dr_willis> 'safely remove' = 'nice term for unmount the drive'
[06:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:35] <_Shade_> i've just installed kubuntu edgy. Well i have to say it rocks :)
[06:35] <webpower_> Dr_willis: listen me
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Userfriendlyness causing more  problems heh
[06:35] <webpower_> try to do "safety remove"
[06:35] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: woah! can you say more?
[06:35] <webpower_> as you can see, led of pen drive is off
[06:35] <mendred> Dr_willis: safely remove seems to switch of the power of a usb stick..the led goes off
[06:35] <livingdaylight> anyone tell me what the ttf fonts are called. You know the microsoft ones?
[06:35] <mendred> umount doesn't
[06:35] <livingdaylight> comic sans etc
[06:35] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: what do you want to know then?
[06:35] <webpower_> if you use: umont, led is on
[06:36] <mendred> i am not sure what it does extra though
[06:36] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: about kubuntu?
[06:36] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: yeah
[06:36] <uwo> hi all. i lost the "quick search" field (google, wikipedia....) in the location toolbar of konqueror... does anyone know how exactly this field is called and where to turn it on?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Now ya did it - kde crashed. :)
[06:36] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: how exactly is it rocking? Kubuntu/Dapper still Rocks too :) Installed it for the first time yesterday :)
[06:37] <webpower_> Dr_willis: have you tried?
[06:37] <arunkale> i'm waiting for Edgy
[06:37] <arunkale> should be awesome
[06:37] <mendred> uwo: konqueror settings>configure extensions extensions tab
[06:37] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  the usb thang just crashed kde on me. :P silly thing
[06:37] <uwo> mendred: tnx!
[06:37] <htraki> livingdaylight: It rocks,just update the packages
[06:37] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: you couldn't wait huh?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  i can say ive NEVER noticed the power indicationlight on my usb-gizmos going on or off.
[06:37] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: well it boots faster, i find the kde run faster as well... I don't like the default wallpaper though ;D
[06:38] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: you're right
[06:38] <livingdaylight> htraki: Edgy is more thanjust updated packages no?
[06:38] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: i can tell you how to change the wallpaper ...hehe
[06:38] <htraki> I dont know I did not try it yet
[06:39] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: they've updated the system-settings applet too, so it's more convenient to use now
[06:39] <htraki> Well I then think yes
[06:39] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: oh, good, coz that was buggy as hell
[06:39] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: i already did it :)
[06:39] <htraki> but edgy is still beta
[06:39] <livingdaylight> What i wanna know is onboot up does it say Kubuntu or Ubuntu still?
[06:39] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: you mean the system-settings stuff ?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> beta for a few more days :)
[06:40] <webpower_> Dr_willis: how can I know the command associated to "safety remove" ?
[06:40] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: yea
[06:40] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  as far as i can tell its just running umount.. if the device is umounted.. the system is no longer accessing it..
[06:40] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: it says "Kubuntu" oh btw they added a new usplash theme
[06:40] <felixjet> anyone knows a good download manager ?
[06:40] <arunkale> htraki: edgy releases on the 26th
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Unless ya got some really weird device. I got 4 usb things here.. and they all got 1 led. and its always on when i plug them in.
[06:40] <htraki> arunkale: d4x
[06:40] <miguel> esto es en espaol?
[06:41] <felixjet> miguel #kubuntu-es
[06:41] <arunkale> d4x?
[06:41] <livingdaylight> !es
[06:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:41] <htraki> downloader 4 X
[06:41] <webpower_> is not really that safety remove just unmonts it
[06:41] <livingdaylight> miguel: vale?
[06:41] <htraki> uses gtk+ 2.x
[06:41] <arunkale> i didnt want the downloader software man
[06:41] <miguel> gracias
[06:41] <arunkale> felixjet wanted it
[06:41] <htraki> just a plugin?
[06:41] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: i'm just doing an update... and I will have a brand new kde in a minute :)
[06:41] <webpower_> as you can see on right click, of pen drive there are both safety remove and unmount
[06:41] <B-Minus> hey all good evening
[06:42] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  prove otherwise.. i cant find any  info on it one way or another.  for years..  i plug in a usb thing.. mount it.. write to it.. umount it.. wait a few sec.. then remove it.
[06:42] <felixjet> downloader 4x and d4x ?
[06:42] <livingdaylight> What i could not understand is when you boot up and grub gives you the kernels it says Ubuntu whether you have Ubuntu installed or Kubuntu. Now if you have both Ubuntu and Kubuntu installed that canbe confusing!
[06:42] <Dr_willis> webpower_,   could go ask the #kde guys what it does differently
[06:42] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: well.... several minutes maybe :D
[06:42] <livingdaylight> hehe
[06:42] <felixjet> !d4x
[06:42] <htraki> felixjet: d4x and downloader 4 X it is same sw
[06:42] <ubotu> d4x: graphical download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.6-2 (dapper), package size 656 kB, installed size 1920 kB
[06:42] <apokryphos> Dr_willis: what's the issue?
[06:42] <felixjet> xD
[06:42] <livingdaylight> in the meantime, can someone tell me what the ms fonts are called, please?
[06:42] <apokryphos> webpower_:  what's the issue?
[06:42] <felixjet> ty htraki
[06:42] <livingdaylight> coremsttfonts or something
[06:42] <_Shade_> talking about kde... what's katapult actually?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> apokryphos,  whts the differeance btween 'safely remove' and 'umount' on a usb device iconon the desktop.
[06:42] <apokryphos> _Shade_: /msg ubotu katapult
[06:43] <apokryphos> Dr_willis: safely remove executes eject, too, I believe.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> apokryphos,  heh - that makes a LITTLE bit of sence I guess
[06:43] <Dr_willis> with that logic.. the CDROM drive should say safely remove then.
[06:43] <B-Minus> hey
[06:43] <webpower_> apokryphos: read :)
[06:43] <B-Minus> what is katapult it doesnt do anything here
[06:43] <B-Minus> it shows a pic of a katapult :p
[06:43] <Dr_willis> lets see what it says. :P
[06:44] <apokryphos> B-Minus: /msg ubotu katapult
[06:44] <livingdaylight> will someone tell me the core-msttfonts please?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> !find font
[06:44] <ubotu> Found: fontconfig, fontforge, fontforge-doc, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 (and 156 others)
[06:44] <apokryphos> Dr_willis: nah, some usb pen drives just like "eject" too
[06:44] <apokryphos> of course it's safe to remove etc after you've simply unmounted it
[06:44] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: what about it?
[06:44] <apokryphos> (presuming it doesn't remount)
[06:44] <Dr_willis> apokryphos,  heh -  that what ive been saying
[06:44] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: tell you what? What it's called? Perhaps msttcorefonts
[06:45] <Dr_willis> I got the KDE mountign system all messed up now. :P its taking 4 min to even see a usb thing when i plug it in
[06:45] <apokryphos> :O
[06:45] <Dr_willis> i rember why i never use the auto-mounting features now
[06:45] <apokryphos> well, the automounting in kde is done with a combination of HAL and DBUS, if there's a problem it's likely with one of those
[06:45] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: thx,buddy, i knew i was close, but synaptic's got to know exactly, and won't guess what i mean
[06:46] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: apt-cache search helps at times like this; i.e. apt-cache search font|grep ms
[06:46] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: you could check the "search in description" bos
[06:46] <webpower_> apokryphos: have you understood the problem?
[06:46] <_Shade_> box
[06:46] <apokryphos> webpower_: what's your problem?
[06:47] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: thank you. I've written that command down in my book of commands. :)
[06:47] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: oh, i did
[06:47] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: writing? Bah! There are excellent programs out there for note-taking ;-)
[06:47] <apokryphos> might I recommend basket 8)
[06:48] <webpower_> I wont to know the command from shell to do safety remove
[06:48] <apokryphos> !info basket
[06:48] <ubotu> basket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-5 (dapper), package size 336 kB, installed size 1184 kB
[06:48] <webpower_> not umount
[06:48] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: huh? ami livinving inthe darkages?
[06:48] <apokryphos> webpower_: well most likely it doesn't do it through a shell of course, but it'd be something like: umount /media/somedisk && eject /media/somedisk
[06:48] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: oh yeah 8)
[06:48] <webpower_> apokryphos: eject what does?
[06:49] <apokryphos> webpower_: man eject
[06:49] <webpower_> eject opens automatically cdrom and floppy
[06:49] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: sudo apt-get install basket ;)
[06:49] <v3ctor> eject (1)            - eject removable media
[06:49] <htraki> webpower: same as in cd player
[06:50] <Dr_willis> i think somthing has to be umounted befor its ejected
[06:50] <v3ctor> eject should umount for you...if it can
[06:50] <Dr_willis> or course all eject does is send a command to the device..  that may or may not do anything.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> v3ctor,  ya sure of that? Hmm lets check with this cd.
[06:50] <apokryphos> yup, but I don't recall --  eject on some systems might umount automatically first if it's mounted
[06:50] <_Shade_> wow i've downloaded 55% of updates... i wonder how many packages will be upgradeable when it's done :)
[06:50] <htraki> Dr_willis: the sw does it 4 U
[06:50] <robin__> I am trying to setup edgy to mount xp when booting, whem i type the following command " gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" I get an error can someone help?
[06:51] <apokryphos> robin__: what's the error?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> guess it does. :P
[06:51] <Dr_willis> spiffy
[06:51] <htraki> robin_: open fstab in the editor gedit or kate
[06:51] <Dr_willis> assuming of course nothing is using it.
[06:51] <v3ctor> of course
[06:51] <robin__> (gksudo:4877): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: is the error
[06:51] <apokryphos> robin__: try using kdesu instead of gksudo
[06:51] <robin__> ok
[06:52] <htraki> robin_:U have to be root to edit fstab
[06:52] <apokryphos> and perhaps kate instead of gedit :P
[06:52] <Dr_willis> cool - kde mounted the audio cd and showed the tracks as wav/mp3/ogg/and others. :)
[06:52] <webpower_> if is unmounted
[06:52] <arunkale> A friend of mine tried out Ubuntu on his OS X.. and Ubuntu doesn't stretch to the full length of the screen
[06:52] <webpower_> eject what does?
[06:52] <apokryphos> htraki: gksudo is GTK's app for opening a GUI app as root
[06:52] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  my guess - it just sends the eject command to the device.
[06:52] <robin__> root@robin-desktop:~# kdesu gedit /etc/fstab
[06:52] <robin__> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[06:52] <v3ctor> Dr_willis: easy to rip em that way ;)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> v3ctor,  and ehre i have been using GRIP. :P
[06:52] <webpower_> what does eject command to pen drive?
[06:52] <apokryphos> robin__: don't do that as root :)
[06:53] <webpower_> ejects open cd rom
[06:53] <apokryphos> robin__: alt+f2 -> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:53] <v3ctor> drag and drop is nicer
[06:53] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: gonna have to learn to use this basket :s
[06:53] <robin__> ok
[06:53] <htraki> robin_: Do su in kterm or xterm,then kate /etc/fstab
[06:53] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: it's really good; see some of the features it has on basket.kde.org
[06:53] <apokryphos> webpower_: yes, but obviously not with a usb pen drive
[06:53] <apokryphos> don't worry, it won't fly out of the port ;-)
[06:53] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  you expecting the usb drive to fly across the room? :P id say the usb device may or may not respond to the eject command.
[06:53] <robin__> being root was my problem thx
[06:53] <Dr_willis> i cant find any or my usb  things that seem to care about eject.
[06:54] <apokryphos> robin__: root is disabled on ubuntu by default :P
[06:54] <webpower_> and what does with pen drive?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> eject did remove the device from the kde 'storage media' list.
[06:55] <htraki> apokyphos: To become root,just give user passwd when req
[06:55] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: Awesome! i was living in the Dark Ages there with my pen and paper, Geezuz Krist!
[06:55] <webpower_> Dr_willis: i don't understand
[06:55] <v3ctor> i take notes the old fashioned way...
[06:56] <v3ctor> i log irc
[06:56] <apokryphos> v3ctor: problematic when you find that irc isn't responsible for all the knowledge in the world :P
[06:56] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  it dont do nothing  since it cant... its mainly used for other gizmos.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  unmount the thing and its safe to remove
[06:56] <v3ctor> apokryphos: it isn't ?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> or use the safely remove.. which does umount +  eject.
[06:57] <apokryphos> v3ctor: yup, there's wikipedia too!
[06:57] <webpower_> I'd like to know what eject does to pen drive
[06:58] <v3ctor> i am gonna start using google office to make a document to save all of my google searches on
[06:58] <htraki> webpower_:safety remove from sys
[06:58] <webpower_> like umount?
[06:59] <apokryphos> webpower_: well have you even checked google?
[06:59] <apokryphos> http://eject.sourceforge.net/
[06:59] <htraki> No,umount just removes media
[06:59] <lupine_85> what eject does to pen drives?
[06:59] <htraki> softwarely,hardwarely
[07:00] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  i am guessing your pen drive is one of the .00000000000000000000001% int he world that responds to eject by turning off the led.
[07:00] <lupine_85> probably not a lot
[07:00] <Dr_willis> lupine_85,  im gaterhing that his pen drive some how has a led that shows its on/off.
[07:00] <lupine_85> cor
[07:00] <lupine_85> good job it's plugged into the PS/2 port ;)
[07:00] <htraki> No, Ithink it show data transferring
[07:00] <webpower_> Dr_willis: try
[07:00] <lupine_85> so it turns the LED off. not a big deal, and not really useful ;)
[07:01] <Dr_willis> My pendrives all got one led.. that is on all the time.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> they dont even flicker when being accessed
[07:01] <Dr_willis> of course now kde's auto mounting is really confused from the 5+ devices ive been plkugging in.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:02] <webpower_> Dr_willis_ try to do eject /dev/sda1
[07:02] <webpower_> led turns of?
[07:02] <webpower_> of
[07:02] <webpower_> try
[07:03] <_Shade_> will edgy support my multimedia keyboard? I heard it does, but it doesn't it seems
[07:03] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  since sda1 is my sata drive ; ) no.
[07:03] <lupine_85> _Shade_: probably. You'd need to install hotkey
[07:03] <lupine_85> !info hotkey
[07:03] <ronnylinux> hi guys i typed this command: mount -t nfs 192.168.1.33://algo /home/ronny/ronnyfiles  and got this message: mount to NFS server '192.168.1.33' failed.
[07:03] <ubotu> Package hotkey does not exist in any distro I know
[07:03] <lupine_85> !info hotkeys
[07:03] <ubotu> hotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 141 kB, installed size 380 kB
[07:04] <ronnylinux> what can i do
[07:04] <lupine_85> very handy
[07:04] <webpower_> Dr_willis: try with pen drive
[07:04] <v3ctor>  mount -t nfs 192.168.1.33:/algo /home/ronny/ronnyfiles
[07:04] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  it does nothing. the blue led stays on - on my device
[07:04] <Dr_willis> it did not shoot across the room either. :)
[07:04] <ronnylinux> v3ctor yes i use that and the same
[07:04] <Blissex> ronnylinux: there is an NFS FAQ with extensive advice on where to look to debug problems too...
[07:04] <htraki> Dr.Willis:Preheaps /dev/sdb like at me
[07:05] <htraki> or /dev/usbdisk
[07:05] <v3ctor> sudo  mount -t nfs 192.168.1.33:/algo /home/ronny/ronnyfiles
[07:05] <htraki> sorry, I meant /media/usbdisk
[07:05] <webpower_> Dr_willis: also with "safety remove" from kde?
[07:05] <_Shade_> lupine_85: thanks, i'll do it, but first i have to cope with the updates :). It's 270MBs on a low brandwidth
[07:05] <htraki> or U can add the mount dir as parm
[07:05] <lupine_85> 270MB, eh?
[07:06] <ronnylinux> v3ctor the message continue
[07:06] <webpower_> Dr_willis: try from kde
[07:06] <v3ctor> ronnylinux: is nfs server runnig on remote system?
[07:06] <v3ctor> running* even
[07:06] <webpower_> Dr_willis: try from kde
[07:06] <Dr_willis> webpower_, nothing webpower_
[07:07] <webpower_> led remains on?
[07:07] <htraki> try to eject form cmd lind
[07:08] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  yes.. if i plug in the device the blue led is on... all the time... ive never ever seen it EVER turn off...
[07:08] <ronnylinux> v3ctor i installed apt-get install nfs-common and the kernel too
[07:08] <robin__> i now am mounting xp on boot, the bad news is when i try to access it it says i dont have permission lol. any idea's?
[07:08] <htraki> Did U close all apps that are using the pendrive?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> same goes for my other usb gizmos
[07:08] <ronnylinux> what it means they are running?
[07:09] <v3ctor> ronnylinux: did you install that on both system?
[07:09] <htraki> robin_:does windowz runs on ntfs
[07:09] <arunkale> kde 3.5.5. is out/
[07:09] <ronnylinux> v3ctor yes in both i have two kubuntu machines
[07:10] <htraki> robin_:did U add users parm in fstab
[07:10] <v3ctor> ronnylinux: did you edit /etc/exports on the server system and start the service?
[07:11] <ronnylinux> vector: no, how i can do that
[07:11] <v3ctor> hold on while i google that for you
[07:13] <will> hey all, i'm trying to use apt-get install to install a package that I know should exist, its event on packages.ubuntu.com but its saying it can't find it
[07:13] <will> and it's happened with a few packages so far
[07:13] <Hawkwind> ronnylinux: You need nfs-utils IIRC
[07:13] <will> even^
[07:13] <Hawkwind> ronnylinux: In /etc/hosts on the other box, you need something similar to this:  /storage   192.168.1.101(rw,sync,all_squash,anonuid=501,anongid=501,no_subtree_check)
[07:13] <robin__> I have mounted my xp partition but it says i dont have thge rights to view it, any thoughts any one?
[07:14] <zer0hour> will: is your package file up to date?
[07:14] <htraki> will:what parms do U have in repo?
[07:14] <will> ive run apt-get update
[07:14] <will> hrtraki: i dont understand the question, im a bit of a linuxnoob
[07:14] <Hawkwind> robin__: Sorry, it is nfs-common you need
[07:14] <htraki> paste your server list
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Ermm, ronnylinux ^^^^^^^^
[07:14] <will> how do i get it?
[07:14] <will> to paste
[07:14] <Hawkwind> ronnylinux: Have you tried doing:  sudo /etc/init.d/nfs start ?
[07:14] <Hawkwind> will: http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[07:15] <v3ctor> ronnylinux: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s03.html
[07:15] <Hawkwind> !nfs
[07:15] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:15] <Hawkwind> Much easier to understand page there for NFS.  Plus, it's *Ubuntu specific
[07:15] <will> how do i get my server list?
[07:15] <Hawkwind> will: It's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:16] <v3ctor> hmm...forgot to try ubotu
[07:16] <htraki> go to /etc/apt and paste yore sources.list
[07:16] <will> deb http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[07:16] <will> deb-src http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[07:16] <will> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[07:16] <will> ## distribution.
[07:16] <will> deb http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[07:16] <will> deb-src http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[07:17] <will> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[07:17] <will> ## repository.
[07:17] <will> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[07:17] <will> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[07:17] <will> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[07:17] <will> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[07:17] <will> ## team.
[07:17] <will> # deb http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[07:17] <will> # deb-src http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[07:17] <will> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[07:17] <v3ctor> can you paste some of your other config files too
[07:17] <will> ## repository.
[07:17] <robin__> nfs-common, then what?"
[07:17] <will> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[07:17] <will> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[07:17] <will> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[07:17] <will> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[07:18] <will> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[07:18] <htraki> U have to uncomment the following lines  ...
[07:18] <will_> sry all i just got kicked
[07:18] <Manyfold> hello i have a problem everytime i do "wget -O foo2zjs.tar.gz http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz" i get an "bash: $: command not found" also locate finds the binary in /usr/bin and that directory appears in $PATH. so what went wrong?
[07:18] <Hawkwind> will_: Please don't paste to the channel
[07:19] <Hawkwind> will_: I stated for you to use http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[07:19] <will_> sry
[07:19] <will_> ok ive pasted it there
[07:19] <htraki> end with universe and add 'multiverse' after that
[07:20] <Hawkwind> will_: You have to paste us the resulting URL
[07:20] <will_> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/160
[07:20] <v3ctor> Manyfold: why not just "wget http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz" ?
[07:21] <Hawkwind> will_: You need to edit the file and add universe multiverse to the lines that don't have a # at the beginning
[07:21] <Hawkwind> will_: To edit the file, kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list   Replace kwrite with your editor of choice
[07:21] <htraki> and add multiverse after that
[07:22] <htraki> it is a another repo
[07:22] <Hawkwind> Hah, I mentioned both multiverse universe already :P
[07:23] <will_> ok thx all ill try tht
[07:23] <will_> what does kdesu do btw?
[07:23] <v3ctor> !repos
[07:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:23] <v3ctor> that explains it pretty well also
[07:23] <htraki> kdesu provides root privileges
[07:23] <will_> is it like sudo?
[07:24] <LjL> will_: yes, for kde apps
[07:24] <htraki> sudo is for execute a command
[07:24] <Manyfold> v3ctor: well that worked but when i look at the wget man page the -O option is mentioned so the first version should work too
[07:24] <will_> ah kk
[07:24] <Manyfold> v3ctor: i have the fear that my bash is royaly fucked up
[07:24] <v3ctor> i read the whole section on that option...i think that the filename needs to exist first
[07:25] <ricanelite> Hell all, I need help to fix my screen resolution right now it is only displaying 1024x768 and I know it could go higher, I'm a newbie so please help me out the best way you can
[07:25] <Manyfold> so touch filename and then wget -O ?
[07:25] <felixjet> !xconfig
[07:26] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:26] <B-Minus> hmmm
[07:26] <B-Minus> my laptop monitor is very dark
[07:26] <Manyfold> !wget
[07:26] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 225 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[07:26] <v3ctor> Manyfold: maybe?
[07:26] <felixjet> thats for you ricanelite
[07:26] <Manyfold> that bot is cool
[07:26] <Manyfold> !dpkg-statoverride
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkg-statoverride - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <will> sucess!!!
[07:27] <will> thx so much everyone
[07:27] <htraki> ricanelite: do kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit to your needs
[07:27] <ricanelite> wait
[07:27] <felixjet> my ethernet card is setup on eth1. how can i convert it to the eth0 ??
[07:27] <ricanelite> where do i type that?
[07:28] <ricanelite> and which one?
[07:28] <htraki> in terminal
[07:28] <ricanelite> so i type in kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:28] <ricanelite> ??
[07:28] <htraki> xterm or kterm
[07:29] <htraki> Go to Screen Section
[07:30] <htraki> Default Depth should be 24 ..
[07:30] <ricanelite> Now, how I do configre this on xorg.conf-kate?
[07:30] <ricanelite> so I put in the Screen Resolution I want right next to the other one?
[07:30] <htraki> yes,or what do U need
[07:30] <htraki> space separted
[07:30] <ricanelite> but there 4 different lines
[07:31] <felixjet> my ethernet card is setup on eth1. how can i convert it to the eth0 ??
[07:31] <htraki> Yes, they are 4 colour depths
[07:31] <ricanelite> damn i dont know what im doing
[07:31] <ricanelite> lol
[07:31] <htraki> 1,4,16,24
[07:31] <ricanelite> so i put the screen resolution i want on each line??
[07:31] <ubuntu> is it possible to use Kubuntu live cd to recover files from a hard drive partition with a boot-failing windows version installed?
[07:32] <htraki> Only one that U use
[07:32] <ricanelite> so is 24 stand for 24bit color?
[07:32] <htraki> Mine looks like this:
[07:32] <htraki> DefaultDepth	24
[07:33] <LjL> ricanelite: yes
[07:33] <htraki> Did U saved the file
[07:34] <htraki> If yes, then exit form kde and cross your finger
[07:34] <htraki> s
[07:34] <ricanelite> so, right where it says Subsection "Display"  Depth    24   Modes    "1024x768" i put right before that the screen resolution i want
[07:34] <ricanelite> is there a better way by using the terminal where it tells you which one to select cause i remeber doing that before
[07:34] <htraki> ok, go ahead
[07:35] <LjL> ricanelite: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:35] <Manyfold> now when i try to make that thing my compiler can't find standart libraries like stdio.h string.h and such
[07:35] <LjL> ricanelite: that will modify xorg.conf using a series of questions
[07:35] <LjL> Manyfold: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[07:36] <B-Minus> hello
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Moo! :)
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. looks like my dvd-burner is having issues reading cd;s now. :(
[07:39] <orient2000> Hi, everybody! I need to e-mail about 130 very small pictures from one directory by 130 e-mails. Is there any way to do it automaticly, maybe from konsole? I use evolution.
[07:40] <Dr_willis> orient2000,  you are sending 130 pictures to 130 different email accounts?
[07:40] <orient2000> only one account.
[07:41] <htraki> Why dont send it once,just create a zip packages
[07:41] <Dr_willis> htraki,  yea - i was thinking that also. :)
[07:41] <B-Minus_> anyone know a good tutorial to play with ip settings in console ?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> B-Minus,  play with?
[07:41] <zorglu_> orient2000: do a script with 'kmail' in it ?
[07:42] <Dr_willis> ifconfig, route,  commands.. :P
[07:42] <orient2000> my father have no idea about zip
[07:42] <B-Minus_> ye change them etc .. example, in windows you do ipconfig /all and you can see if dhcp is enabled, i cant seem to see this in linux :s
[07:42] <Dr_willis> You would rather have him click through 130 different emails' ?
[07:42] <htraki> ok do you have all pics in a dir
[07:42] <Dr_willis> B-Minus,  ifconfig command
[07:42] <zorglu_> B-Minus_: http://lartc.org/ is the only one i know
[07:42] <Dr_willis> and other related commands
[07:42] <B-Minus_> tnx
[07:43] <orient2000> OK. I will try Kmail but I have no idea about scripts.
[07:44] <zorglu_> orient2000: you are not chosing the easiest technic
[07:44] <htraki> orient: Use Ark to create a compressed archive
[07:45] <htraki> Why dont U make it simple
[07:45] <htraki> That way is much difficulter
[07:46] <orient2000> how would you e-mail someone 130 picture 500kB in size. inserting them 130 times?
[07:46] <zorglu_> email are not done for this purpose
[07:46] <zorglu_> they are made to send humain message
[07:46] <zorglu_> it is not intended to do file transfert
[07:47] <Rider_R> Hello
[07:47] <htraki> Drop all pics in ad directory, and compress them in an archive,after that mail
[07:47] <LjL> htraki: don't think the mail will get through, if i've understood the file sizes correctly
[07:47] <Rider_R> Works like a charm!
[07:47] <felixjet> i need the xlibs 4.1> but adept dont show any result in search. what packages i need?
[07:48] <B-Minus_> why isnt this working
[07:48] <B-Minus_> tommy@tommy-laptop:~$ man ifconfig | nedit
[07:48] <B-Minus_> :(
[07:48] <B-Minus_> am i an idiot or something
[07:48] <htraki> One pics is 500K
[07:48] <orient2000> It will be 50MB file too big for e-mail.
[07:48] <LjL> B-Minus_: i don't have nedit... but i would find it strange if it got input from stdin.
[07:48] <zorglu_> to be answered, you must state what is your goal, B-Minus_
[07:48] <htraki> Then resize them first
[07:49] <B-Minus_> i want the output of the manpage in nedit
[07:49] <B-Minus_> or kate
[07:49] <B-Minus_> but kate doesnt seem to work as well with that command
[07:49] <htraki> or convert into a another format
[07:50] <htraki> What kind of format pics are in?
[07:50] <intelikey> b-minus man blah > text ; kate text
[07:50] <B-Minus_> hmmz
[07:50] <B-Minus_> tnx
[07:50] <zorglu_> B-Minus_: weird goal. but ok, do "man ifconfig >/tmp/bla" then "kate /tmp/bla"
[07:50] <orient2000> jpg I do not want to resizo or change format they will go for print and the receiver is a beginer in a computer
[07:50] <felixjet> i need the xlibs 4.1> but adept dont show any result in search. what packages i need?
[07:50] <felixjet> !xlibs
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <zorglu_> !info xlibs
[07:51] <ubotu> Package xlibs does not exist in any distro I know
[07:51] <zorglu_> felixjet: first you must find the ubuntu name for this package
[07:51] <LjL> i think there is no such package anymore...
[07:51] <intelikey> !xlibs-dev
[07:51] <ubotu> xlibs-dev: X Window System client library development files transitional package. In component main, is extra. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[07:52] <felixjet> i need that package
[07:52] <felixjet> for cedega
[07:52] <LjL> !info xlibs-breezy
[07:52] <orient2000> is there any e-mail program I can use in a konsole?
[07:52] <LjL> !info xlibs breezy
[07:52] <ubotu> Package xlibs-breezy does not exist in any distro I know
[07:52] <ubotu> xlibs: X Window System client library transitional package. In component main, is optional. Version 6.8.2-77.1 (breezy), package size 89 kB, installed size 284 kB
[07:52] <LjL> felixjet: if you need to *compile* cedega, then what intelikey said
[07:52] <zorglu_> orient2000: kmail does it, as previously answered
[07:52] <felixjet> but i cant get it with apt-get
[07:52] <felixjet> no no
[07:52] <felixjet> is a .deb
[07:52] <felixjet> file
[07:52] <orient2000> thanks
[07:52] <LjL> felixjet: then it's a .deb file made for breezy, and not dapper.
[07:52] <LjL> find one for dapper
[07:53] <v3ctor> B-Minus_:  man -P '' ifconfig| nedit
[07:53] <felixjet> i dl'd it in emule :(
[07:53] <htraki> orient:I think wont be faster if U send them once , or send them 1by1
[07:53] <B-Minus_> tnx
[07:53] <intelikey> orient2000 text based email clients ?   mutt pine
[07:54] <zorglu_> felixjet: :) good reliable source :) :) :)
[07:54] <LjL> !cedega
[07:54] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:54] <LjL> felixjet: perhaps this is less risky.
[07:54] <zorglu_> felixjet: dont worry about being cracked after that :)
[07:54] <felixjet> lol
[07:57] <v3ctor> B-Minus_: i just tried with nedit and that didn;t work...sorry my test worked with vi
[07:57] <B-Minus_> ye didnt work :s but im just gonna try with the console layout :p
[07:57] <lipe_pe> When i type, for ex., limewire my kubuntu doesn't open it, it only "read" and exit the limewire, how can i fix it ?! please
[07:58] <LjL> B-Minus_: why don't you just load the manpage's file?
[07:58] <B-Minus_> i am now
[07:58] <B-Minus_> but i like reading more in a gui
[07:58] <LjL> B-Minus_: /usr/share/man/man8/ifconfig.8.gz - ungzip it and you have it
[07:58] <LjL> B-Minus_: oh, but if *that's* what you want, there *definitely* are other means!
[07:59] <intelikey> B-Minus_ xman
[07:59] <lipe_pe> When i type, for ex., limewire my kubuntu doesn't open it, it only "read" and exit the limewire, how can i fix it ?! please
[07:59] <v3ctor> B-Minus_: you can read man pages in konqueror
[07:59] <LjL> B-Minus_: type "man:/" in konq for one
[07:59] <B-Minus_> ok tnx
[08:00] <LjL> B-Minus_: or just go to the help system, and go to "UNIX manual pages"
[08:00] <LjL> (you can also make searches from there of course)
[08:01] <LjL> !limewire
[08:01] <B-Minus_> man;/ is good
[08:01] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[08:01] <lipe_pe> When i type, for ex., "limewire" my kubuntu doesn't open it, it only "read" and exit the it, how can i fix it ?! please
[08:01] <intelikey> LjL isn't there a shorten form of that also in knoq   !:   or  #:   or something
[08:01] <LjL> lipe_pe: done what's said above?
[08:01] <lipe_pe> LjL: Thx u veeery much
[08:02] <LjL> intelikey: well, tbh i just use "man" from a console
[08:02] <[Bart] > hi, is kernel 2.6.17 or 2.6.18 already available for kubuntu?
[08:03] <trappist> [Bart] : 2.6.17 is, in edgy
[08:03] <lipe_pe> how can i add the ARIAL font, to openoffice ?? someone please ...
[08:03] <intelikey> hehhe me too but i was thinking i heard that (and i'm not sure of the chars) !:/page  for man and #:/page for info   or something like that
[08:04] <intelikey> !fonts
[08:04] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[08:04] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[08:04] <lipe_pe> intelikey: thx u veeeeeeeeeeeeery much ! :D
[08:05] <[Bart] > tnx trappist
[08:06] <v3ctor> font:/
[08:06] <v3ctor> ;)
[08:07] <MasterEvilAce> what do i do in /boot/grub/menu.lst to make XP the default boot option everytime
[08:08] <intelikey> put it in the "default" veriable  ?
[08:08] <ajopaul_> MasterEvilAce, make default 4
[08:09] <ajopaul_> its usually 4 unless u have other options as well!
[08:09] <intelikey> ajopaul_ and that assumes a lot
[08:10] <jhutchins_wk> MasterEvilAce:  Determine which entry in the list is XP, and use the number of that entry as the default.
[08:11] <intelikey> heh or move your xp entry to the top of the list of entries lol
[08:11] <ajopaul_> intelikey, i was taking from the default installation cue :) which has from 0 to 4
[08:11] <MasterEvilAce> 4 worked fine ;)
[08:11] <lipe_pe> When i open the synaptic, its says " gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic" not found. What should i do, please ... ?!
[08:11] <jhutchins_wk> ajopaul_: On _your_ system.
[08:12] <intelikey> ajopaul_ jah
[08:12] <ajopaul_> ok ok non specific is the word!! got it :)
[08:13] <intelikey> i can't use grub to boot this system so i don't have a "default" to look at  :)
[08:13] <intelikey> grub is too weak to boot this linux
[08:14] <ajopaul_> ok one thing on konsole! i work behind a proxy  but in konsole apt-gets or wgets dont work at al but works on gnome-terminal,
[08:14] <ajopaul_> have installed kubuntu after ubuntu!
[08:15] <intelikey> ajopaul_ man wget it can use a proxie
[08:15] <intelikey> or aget
[08:15] <intelikey> curl
[08:16] <intelikey> DESCRIPTION
[08:16] <intelikey>        GNU Wget is a free utility for non-interactive download of files from
[08:16] <intelikey>        the Web.  It supports HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP protocols, as well as
[08:16] <intelikey>        retrieval through HTTP proxies.
[08:16] <lupine_85> wget is fine, it just needs the env variables setting
[08:16] <LjL> ajopaul_: set the http_proxy shell variable
[08:16] <ajopaul_> noop! even apt-get dont work! but when i invoke konsole thru gnome-terminal all is fine.
[08:17] <lupine_85> presumably gnome-terminal is doing it all for you automagically
[08:17] <lupine_85> environment variables are inherited
[08:17] <stefan> test 1-2
[08:17] <intelikey> ajopaul_ all that gnome-term is doing is setting the correct veriables
[08:18] <ajopaul_> ok! will try with env variable
[08:19] <intelikey> you can open gnome-terminal and set >> .profile    "maybe then edit the new .profile to make sure you have propper syntax on all
[08:19] <intelikey> i.e. remove the uuid  and some things that get set each command.
[08:24] <sredna> After upgrading last night, printing does not work :0
[08:24] <sredna> Can someone help?
[08:25] <orient2000> mutt simes to be on;e e-mail reader I do not see pine in linux or adept.
[08:25] <sredna> I NEED to print!
[08:25] <sredna> Alternatively, can I downgrade?
[08:26] <lupine_85> !info pine
[08:26] <ubotu> Package pine does not exist in any distro I know
[08:26] <sredna> Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: Localhost: Read failed (15).
[08:26] <sredna> Is the error I get
[08:27] <B-Minus_> hmms
[08:27] <B-Minus_> how come i can only see ip leases from my wireless networkcard in dhcp.leases ?
[08:27] <B-Minus_> and not my wired
[08:29] <sredna> I can't use the kcom printer module as root either, same error
[08:31] <psb154> sredna do you have cups installed (sorry if i am a bit behind this thread)
[08:31] <sredna> Yes, I have cups installed
[08:32] <sredna> Untill today, I have been able to print
[08:32] <psb154> ah
[08:32] <sredna> Last night I updated, in order to get kde 3.5.5
[08:32] <sredna> Since then, (it appears) I can't pring
[08:32] <sredna> Print
[08:32] <v3ctor> the cost of being cutting edge
[08:32] <sredna> I get the error above
[08:32] <sredna> Bah
[08:32] <v3ctor> try resinstalling cupsd
[08:32] <sredna> Ok, let me try that
[08:33] <psb154> sredna i would give: apt-get install cups   ago again just to see if it can be updated also
[08:33] <sredna> psb154: I believe it was
[08:34] <sredna> How can I see the version of installed package?
[08:35] <v3ctor> aptutide show cupsd
[08:36] <bLaZeD> !pornview
[08:36] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB
[08:38] <sredna> Is there a cli client for cups?
[08:38] <v3ctor> aptutide show cupsys
[08:39] <intelikey> lp*
[08:40] <ricanelite> Hello all, I need help with things that I'm confuse about, One is getting the Lastest Java installed and Flash
[08:40] <bLaZeD> !info pornview
[08:40] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB
[08:40] <ricanelite> I'm a linux newbie so please forgive me.
[08:40] <intelikey> !java
[08:40] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:40] <intelikey> !flash
[08:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:40] <v3ctor> !restrictedformats
[08:41] <v3ctor> !restrictedformats
[08:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <intelikey> !mp3
[08:42] <max_> hello, can anyone help me install p7zip, im having troubles with it
[08:42] <intelikey> know any other links to the same infonode ?
[08:42] <max_> v3ctor, is there anyother program to decompress 7z's?
[08:42] <zorglu_> v3ctor: it is because you asked the same command than has been just replied. the bot doesnt answer duplicate in those case
[08:43] <v3ctor> zorglu_: ahh
[08:43] <zorglu_> !bot
[08:43] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:43] <intelikey> !wmv
[08:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:43] <sredna> This must have something to do with KDE, the web interface sees my printer.
[08:43] <TheGateKeeper> max_: what's the problem?
[08:43] <zorglu_> intelikey: the 'brain' gives the list of alias
[08:43] <intelikey> !multimedia
[08:43] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:43] <intelikey> so there are at least 5
[08:44] <v3ctor> max_: sudo aptitude install p7zip
[08:44] <max_> i did that
[08:44] <v3ctor> the binary has a different name though ;)
[08:45] <v3ctor> 7z
[08:45] <zorglu_> max_: good so it is installed
[08:45] <max_> i dont know what the problem is, i click the .7z archive and it askes me what program to open, and i dont know where it installed it
[08:45] <method|> hey i just followed this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271533&highlight=kde+xgl on how to setup bery and xgl. When i try to load up xgl from login it hangs a bit then kicks me back to the login screen. Any help?
[08:45] <zorglu_> not a good day for me to help :)
[08:46] <v3ctor> max_: /usr/bin/7z
[08:46] <PasNox> me too :|
[08:47] <psb154> sredna have you seen any speed or other bennifits with 3.5.5 ?
[08:47] <lupine_85> is it just me or is Openoffice2 calc a PoS?
[08:47] <lupine_85> is Kcalc any better?
[08:47] <max_> v3ctor: the 7z (shell script) or the 7za (executable)?
[08:47] <intelikey> path should be superflutious when associating apps to files  but it doesn't seem to be     i wonder why ?
[08:47] <v3ctor> sorry..7za
[08:48] <v3ctor> i am trying to block all of this out ;)
[08:48] <lupine_85> all I want is error bars on my line graph, with the data fed from cells in the spreadsheet.
[08:48] <sredna> psb154: Khtml seems faster, that is about what I experienced up to now, but I used the new system only very little
[08:48] <orient2000> why I alwais have message   - display problem? - can not connect to X server 0.0. ? Do I need to instal some x server?
[08:48] <max_> v3ctor: i do that and it dosnt open it, the 7za opens in the tray, but wont do anything or open a gui or anything
[08:49] <iLikeSpoons> hey everyone, I have a ubuntu/kubuntu question - I'm trying to get the latest amarok version working on my ubuntu system and I have added the kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest to my sources list. But, amarok 1.4.x depends on libvisual-0.4.0. And the only libvisual version available in ubuntu repos is 0.2.0.
[08:49] <v3ctor> may not have gui output
[08:49] <jsnap> !ati
[08:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:49] <v3ctor> i have only ever used .7z files in cli
[08:49] <iLikeSpoons> how/where do I get 0.4.0, or, alternatively, how do I get synaptic to realize that I have compiled it manually?
[08:49] <intelikey> lupine_85 bc
[08:49] <max_> what is cli
[08:49] <v3ctor> command line interface
[08:49] <intelikey> !cli
[08:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:49] <max_> oh,
[08:50] <max_> how do i know if it is uncompressing it?
[08:50] <max_> or where it puts it?
[08:50] <v3ctor> does it give error?
[08:50] <max_> no
[08:50] <intelikey> in linux no error means no error
[08:50] <v3ctor> where it puts it depends on how the archive was created
[08:50] <lupine_85> bc?
[08:50] <lupine_85> !bc
[08:50] <ubotu> bc: The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 188 kB
[08:51] <max_> an icon pops up in the tray that says "7za" but then it closes
[08:51] <fred_> Hello! I'd like a button on a desktop panel that launch a wine .exe in a chroot..
[08:51] <v3ctor> max_: how did you use it?
[08:51] <v3ctor> what did you run?
[08:51] <fred_> I try did a script but wine start only when I type exit in the console..
[08:51] <lupine_85> erm, not kcalc... I'm after the KDE spreadsheet thingy
[08:51] <max_> i set the open with for 7z's to be 7za, so i just clicked the archive
[08:52] <DaSkreech> orient2000: What OS does your father use?
[08:52] <intelikey> max_ have you tried using fileroller  or arc
[08:52] <lupine_85> I want a graph with Y axis error bars, the value of which (for each point on the graph) is fed from a cell
[08:52] <v3ctor> max_: i don't think you can *click* on a 7z archive
[08:52] <orient2000> windows ha ha
[08:52] <v3ctor> hmm
[08:52] <v3ctor> ark may work
[08:52] <intelikey> i could be wrong but both should be able to use the z7 alg.
[08:52] <sredna> I can't print with kde though
[08:52] <max_> i set the "open with" to "always use this to open with"
[08:52] <max_> arc wont do it
[08:53] <lupine_85> !oleo
[08:53] <ubotu> oleo: GNU spreadsheet program. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.99.16-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 389 kB, installed size 1360 kB
[08:53] <sredna> It fails to 'initialize the printing system' with the same error
[08:53] <fred_> #!/bin/sh
[08:53] <fred_> dchroot bash
[08:53] <fred_> export DISPLAY=:0
[08:53] <fred_> #/var/chroot/dapper/usr/bin/winecfg
[08:53] <fred_> /var/chroot/dapper/usr/bin/wine /home/fred/.wine/amc/MovieCatalog.exe
[08:53] <sredna> Anyone else updated, and experienced printing problems?
[08:54] <lupine_85> gnumeric, kspread...
[08:54] <lupine_85> anyone used either of those?
[08:54] <orient2000> I just installed mutt I think it is replacing pine
[08:54] <v3ctor> i have used kspread
[08:55] <intelikey> orient2000 what provided pine ?  sendmail maybe ?
[08:55] <max_> can no one help me with 7z's?
[08:55] <trappist> fred_: I have /usr/local/bin/do_chroot, like: ARGS=""; for i in "$@"; do ARGS="$ARGS '$i'";done;exec dchroot -d -q "`basename $0`" "$ARGS"
[08:55] <v3ctor> max_: open konsole
[08:55] <v3ctor> cd to dir containing the .7z archive
[08:55] <trappist> fred_: then, sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/do_chroot /usr/local/bin/wine
[08:56] <v3ctor> then: 7za e <filename>.7z
[08:56] <sredna> lupine_85: I used kspread
[08:56] <max_> v3ctor: ok, there
[08:56] <v3ctor> 7za e <filename>.7z
[08:57] <_Shade_> does edgy support locales? When i go to the "language support" there are no languages on the list
[08:57] <max_> v3ctor: Error: CB3.7z is not supported archiv
[08:57] <PasNox> hi need help please, kubuntu dapper, was kde 3.5.4, update yesterday to kde 3.5.5 and now many website can t be seen, kopete ca nconnect msn aim icq, work great on windows :(
[08:57] <v3ctor> google that
[08:57] <max_> ok
[08:57] <fred_> I lost the first part of answer . launched /list....
[08:58] <fred_> sorry..
[08:58] <intelikey> _shade_   apt-cache search language | less       install what you need.
[08:58] <v3ctor> file CB3.7z
[08:58] <v3ctor> see if it actually is a .7z archive
[08:59] <max_> it is
[08:59] <PasNox> help please
[08:59] <PasNox> hae heard of this problem ?
[08:59] <v3ctor> did file tel you it was?
[08:59] <PasNox> have*
[08:59] <max_> yes, and when i ran win98 i was able to uncompress it with a 7z program
[09:00] <max_> whats gzip?
[09:00] <v3ctor> according to documentation...ark should be able to open it
[09:00] <v3ctor> intelikey: bzip2 gets better compression ;P
[09:00] <intelikey> v3ctor no.
[09:01] <lupine_85> bz2 is great
[09:01] <jhutchins_wk> PasNox: You installed an unstable, untested version of KDE which JUST got released.  The only reason you'd do that is so you could file bugreports, right?
[09:01] <lupine_85> but quite a bit slower
[09:01] <seamus7> hi all .... I have Kubuntu-Desktop installed on top of (or in addition to) my Ubuntu installation. I noticed Kubuntu-Desktop seems to be 3.5.2 .... is it the new KDE 3.5.5 available as a Kubuntu package and if yes .... what would a simple terminal command be for upgrading to 3.5.5 ?
[09:01] <max_> ark dosnt handle 7z's
[09:01] <intelikey> v3ctor bz2 gets better compression in some cases gzip gets better compression in some  it depends on wyat you compress
[09:01] <intelikey> what eve
[09:01] <intelikey> n
[09:01] <sredna> Hm, digikam is very crashy after the update, it crashed 3 times tonight, something I NEVER experienced before
[09:01] <intelikey> .
[09:02] <PasNox> jhutchins_wk: it s not unstable o_O
[09:02] <method|> i just installed xgl and beryl using this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271533&highlight=kde+xgl
[09:02] <method|> when i try to start up xgl from the kde login it hangs a bit then throws me back out to login. any ideas?
[09:02] <jhutchins_wk> PasNox: If you say so.
[09:02] <jhutchins_wk> PasNox: Are you sure everything got updated?
[09:03] <cathal> anyone know anything about the m-audio 1010LT sound card and how to hook up surround sound speakers to it
[09:03] <PasNox> jhutchins_wk: i think, i haev not read anuwhere on kubuntu is was unstable , untested
[09:03] <PasNox> yes all update
[09:03] <kdw> sredna: cups bug is 65665
[09:03] <mrmuh> hi
[09:04] <sredna> kdw: Ah, interresting, it is known!
[09:04] <mrmuh> how can i install a smp kernel for amd k7?
[09:04] <mrmuh> i only got the generic
[09:04] <sredna> kdw: Where do I find that? bugs.kde.org?
[09:04] <danny500> hey, v3ctor you on?
[09:04] <v3ctor> danny500: yes
[09:04] <intelikey> !smp > mrmuh
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <cpk2> mrmuh: linux-k7-smp - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7 SMP.
[09:04] <Ash-Fox> Mmm, KDE 3.5.5 looks promising.
[09:04] <kdw> sredna: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/65665
[09:04] <intelikey> u stupid bot.  you used too
[09:05] <v3ctor> lol
[09:05] <mrmuh> cant find it under aptitude
[09:05] <danny500> do you know were I could get a free version of cedega?
[09:05] <sredna> Thank you, kdw
[09:05] <v3ctor> danny500: you could get the cvs version
[09:05] <Ash-Fox> danny500, cedega is not free. You Wine.
[09:05] <cpk2> !info linux-k7-smp
[09:05] <danny500> were?
[09:05] <ubotu> linux-k7-smp: Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7 SMP.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:05] <seamus7> Ash-Fox: is it possible to update my Kubuntu-Desktop installation to KDE 3.5.5 ... I noticed it's at 3.5.2?
[09:05] <v3ctor> it is a bit older..but it mostly works
[09:05] <v3ctor> let me find the info
[09:05] <danny500> were do you get the cvs version?
[09:05] <kdw> you're welcome sredna :-)
[09:05] <Ash-Fox> Sanne, no, right now you can only update it to 3.5.4
[09:05] <PasNox> jhutchins_wk: yes all update / upgrade
[09:05] <mrmuh> ok
[09:05] <mrmuh> ty
[09:06] <Narishma> hi
[09:06] <Sanne> Ash-Fox: huh?
[09:06] <v3ctor> danny500: http://v3ctor.org/docs/cedega_cvs.txt
[09:06] <Ash-Fox> Sanne, well, at least easilly. I just spent half the day compiling KDE 3.5.5 and installed it manually
[09:06] <Sanne> Ash-Fox: I didn't ask anything
[09:06] <max_> can aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyone help with 7z's?
[09:06] <danny500> what you have your own webpage? lol
[09:06] <seamus7> Ash-Fox: how do I update it to 3.5.4 .... is there a simple terminal command for that?
[09:06] <Ash-Fox> Sorry, I meant seamus7
[09:06] <Narishma> was javascript disabled in akregator 3.5.5 ?
[09:06] <Sanne> Ash-Fox: ah, tab completion :) Thanks anyway, heh.
[09:06] <v3ctor> danny500: yes...but all the good sutff is hidden ;)
[09:06] <Ash-Fox> seamus7, yes, you can add some repositories and then just do a update using adept
[09:07] <v3ctor> stuff*
[09:07] <cpk2> Ash-Fox: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php 3.5.5 isnt out yet?
[09:07] <Ash-Fox> cpk2, ack, please don't tell me I wasted a day doing this
[09:07] <Ash-Fox> I wasted a day, argh
[09:07] <mrmuh> i try apt-get isntall linux-k7-smp
[09:07] <mrmuh> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:08] <intelikey> sredna if needed you can force a down grade until that is fixed
[09:08] <cpk2> =P
[09:08] <max_> v3ctor: i couldnt find any results on google for that problem, is there anyother way to do it, or anyoter program
[09:08] <mrmuh> what did i wrong
[09:08] <sredna> intelikey: I dearly hope that will not be nessecary
[09:08] <cpk2> mrmuh: you probably have adept running
[09:09] <seamus7> Ash-Fox or anyone: where can I find a list of those repositories for updating my Kubuntu-Desktop to 3.5.4 (is it worth it you think?)?
[09:09] <sredna> Though again, kde wasted a LOT of time today.
[09:09] <xxenon> hi. Any running edgy and tried XGL ?
[09:09] <xxenon> anyone*
[09:09] <v3ctor> max_: the archive is either corrupt or i have missed an option. I would recomend reading up on the 7za man page
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> mrmuh: have you got adept or synaptic running?
[09:09] <intelikey> oh kde is good at that
[09:09] <cpk2> seamus7: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php to get 3.5.5 (the latest)
[09:10] <max_> the p7zip page is mostly for windows, it hardlt mesnions linux
[09:10] <intelikey> most excellent at wasting time of all packages i've ever seen..... i like it.
[09:10] <sredna> intelikey: I havent had many problems for a while, but this week have been a mixed experience.
[09:10] <Ash-Fox> seamus7, it's not worth it if you have everything you want
[09:10] <v3ctor> max_: open up konsole...type: man 7za
[09:10] <TFrog> anyone here have Edgy Eft Beta loaded and having issues with updates breaking Adept to the point of having to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a to get it working again?
[09:10] <cpk2> seamus7: sourceomatic also has a repo for the latest kde version so you dont always have to add a repo for the newest kde
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> generally, http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest has the latest KDE available for kubuntu on it
[09:11] <intelikey> sredna i use the "if it aint broke, don't fix it" rule   updates/upgrades are only for know problems not for new eye-candy
[09:11] <max_> Error:
[09:11] <max_> Incorrect command line
[09:11] <intelikey> bells and whestles i don't need.
[09:12] <TFrog> i tend to agree with you intelikey
[09:12] <sredna> intelikey: Any graphical computer interface I have ever used have been broken. Badly.
[09:12] <intelikey> lol  go commando
[09:12] <sredna> Not as bad as mobile phones though ;)
[09:12] <TFrog> though i do test out new full versions like Edgy once in beta
[09:12] <seamus7> cpk2, ash-fox: thanks for the help.
[09:12] <v3ctor> i tend not to use graphical computer interfaces
[09:13] <TFrog> well, i use to be an old DOS hack but gui-less in linux would be a bit much for me intelikey
[09:13] <cpk2> max_: maybe you want to try getting p7zip?
[09:13] <v3ctor> cpk2: he has it
[09:13] <sredna> intelikey: It is very tempting sometimes. In fact I use konsole for ALL file and package management, and for quite a few other things too
[09:14] <max_> ya. its giving me problems though
[09:14] <sredna> I do prefer GUI for mail, web, images and office related tasks though ;)
[09:14] <max_> cpk2: do you have it? if you to, can you help me with it
[09:14] <cpk2> oh boy, I have 280 packages being kept back =P
[09:14] <TFrog> lol cpk2
[09:15] <intelikey> sredna to gradualy migrate.  just leave x/kde running and use ctrl+alt+f[1-6]   get used to the console you will find that you switch back to tty7 less and less.
[09:15] <sredna> kdw: Thanks a lot for pointing that bug out to me, since it contains a workaround!
[09:16] <sredna> intelikey: I often have a terminal running :)
[09:16] <sredna> But I tend to use konsole mostly
[09:17] <sredna> Using what browser? It's been a while since I tried any of the cli ones
[09:17] <orient2000> what would be best to e-mail use in a konsole? mutt?
[09:17] <intelikey> elinks  or links2 -g  both work
[09:18] <intelikey> frame buffering
[09:18] <sredna> Right
[09:18] <cpk2> max_: open your favorite web browser and go here /usr/share/doc/p7zip/DOCS/MANUAL/commands/extract.htm
[09:18] <cpk2> max_: that should tell you how to extract something
[09:19] <maikelnight> Hi
[09:19] <maikelnight> is there any kde pic viewer able to create photo galleries?
[09:19] <cpk2> it really shouldnt be difficult to extract anything
[09:20] <intelikey> you can use something like svga-libs in place of fb  but i like the hard-core way.   even if there is a bug or two along the way.
[09:21] <intelikey> minimalists have nothing on me.
[09:22] <DaSkreech> !gnucash
[09:22] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8.12-6ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1288 kB, installed size 3912 kB
[09:23] <kdw> sredna: how about changing /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf from localhost:631 to 127.0.0.1:631 ?
[09:24] <kdw> sredna:  where does the gui write to when you change it (just curious)?
[09:25] <xxenon> hi...is there a guide for XGL on kubuntu edgy ?
[09:25] <sredna> kdw: I changed it in the kcontrol module, I assume it changes the cupsd config file
[09:26] <sredna> Hm, or in the kde printing config
[09:26] <max_> cpk2: it told me to do 7z e (filename) but it says
[09:26] <max_> .7z is not supported
[09:27] <mehdi> hi all
[09:27] <sredna> kdw: .kde/share/config/kdeprintrc is where kdeprint stores information
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Is there a gnucash for KDE?
[09:28] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: Dunno but Eqonomize is good for homes.
[09:28] <Tm_T> Simple <3
[09:30] <DaSkreech> how about small to mid size business?
[09:30] <w0jtas> hi, i have ubuntu and i want change it to kubuntu, how can i do it in the fastest way ?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:31] <fdoving> DaSkreech: something like kmymoney? - i tried sql-ledger but it's simply waaay to advanced for me.
[09:31] <DaSkreech> Can I query a channel?
[09:31] <DaSkreech> like /whois ?
[09:31] <intelikey> w0jtas installing along side, as DaSkreech said but that's not really changing from  it's simply adding.
[09:32] <fdoving> like /msg chanserv info #channel ?
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Ahh
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Hmm Doens't tell me how many people are on
[09:32] <intelikey> /users
[09:32] <intelikey> /user
[09:33] <intelikey> oh channel you are not in DaSkreech ?
[09:33] <fdoving> DaSkreech: you can use /list #channelname
[09:33] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[09:34] <intelikey> just prolly don't want to try /list    without any delemiter
[09:34] <max_> can anyone else hlelp me with p7zip
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Konversation still queries the entire server
[09:37] <intelikey> :)   ok.  i'll not sujest any /list commands.
[09:38] <intelikey> maxx_k  did you do  man p7zip
[09:39] <intelikey> or was that too obvious ?
[09:40] <intelikey> i missed his quit message.....   oh well
[09:41] <jhutchins_wk> intelikey: All ya can do is try.
[09:41] <intelikey> DaSkreech are you still downloading freenode.net ?
[09:41] <intelikey> jhutchins_wk yeah :)
[09:42] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: /msg chanserv list *search-term*  Make sure to use the *'s
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: That still doesn't give me the number of users :)
[09:43] <Hawkwind> Ahh, you can do /names #channel
[09:43] <Hawkwind> That doesn't always work
[09:44] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Xchat has a nice window for getting a channel list that has the number of users too :)
[09:44] <azzco> I've got a small problem with konqueror and dark themes. I'd like to set the normal background to white and the normal font colour to be black is it possible to make this change only for konq?
[09:44] <DaSkreech> Heehee
[09:46] <Ash_Fox> I swear... It's like Konversation was designed to annoy me
[09:47] <intelikey> azzco yes i think so.  click the upper left corner button of konq and select the menu itom special settings
[09:48] <intelikey> someone will have to help you if you need further help i don't have kde.
[09:48] <intelikey> Ash_Fox it was.  aint it great  :)
[09:48] <intelikey> works well
[09:48] <intelikey> :)
[09:49] <Ash-Fox> http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/Konversation <- It's really hard to to use a few networks when Konversion does this to the tabs (being 1: Can't read the tabs unless I move my mouse over 2: I have to scroll to see all the tabs, instead of it taking multiple 'lines' to show the tabs)
[09:49] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: Why not use treeview ?
[09:49] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: heh, nice solution :)
[09:49] <Ash-Fox> Treeview? I haven't heard of this
[09:50] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: All depends on what version of konversation you're using
[09:50] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: It was added in 1.0 to match Xchat's treeview basically
[09:51] <Hawkwind> Ash_Fox: You really should update then
[09:52] <Ash-Fox> !konversion
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <Ash-Fox> !konversation
[09:52] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4835 kB, installed size 11136 kB
[09:53] <josh_> !xgl
[09:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:53] <Ash-Fox> Hawkwind, you mean compile Konversation?
[09:53] <ronnylinux> hello I am trrying to start my kubuntu and the PC ask me for the Pasword, I wrote it and then ask me again , every time, I can't strat my kubuntu, what can I do
[09:53] <azzco> intelikey: I can't find "special settings" :(
[09:53] <Skrot> !opera
[09:53] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[09:54] <lynx> kk
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[09:54] <lynx> gyjuhjjgy
[09:54] <lynx> hjgy
[09:54] <lynx> k
[09:54] <lynx> bhjk
[09:54] <lynx> ghkb
[09:54] <lynx> ykg
[09:54] <lynx> hkg
[09:54] <lynx> kgh
[09:54] <lynx> jkg
[09:54] <lynx> hj
[09:54] <lynx> gyjgjkb
[09:54] <lynx> iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:54] <lynx> yyyyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:54] <Ash-Fox> !kops
[09:54] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[09:54] <Hawkwind> Bahhhhhhhhh
[09:55] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: No, there are updates to get 1.0 for Dapper.  It's in imbrandons repo and I thought it was on the kubuntu.org repos
[09:55] <Ash-Fox> Hawkwind, ah, okay, I'll just add that then =)
[09:55] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[09:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:55] <Tm_T> Eh.
[09:55] <Tm_T> nalioth: Hi :)
[09:55] <ronnylinux> hello I am trrying to start my kubuntu and the PC ask me for the Pasword, I wrote it and then ask me again , every time, I can't strat my kubuntu, what can I do
[09:56] <nalioth> Tm_T: howdy stranger
[09:56] <Tm_T> nalioth: Me stranger? After all these years...
[09:56] <josh_> !beryl
[09:56] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[09:57] <Tm_T> Ok, I think I need some coffee
[09:57] <Dasnipa`> make it a kahlua
[09:57] <Dasnipa`> possibly mudslide
[09:57] <Dasnipa`> or white russian
[09:58] <sredna> ronnylinux: Did you type the password during the installation process?
[09:59] <ronnylinux> sredna, yes I was using my kubuntu normaly
[09:59] <sredna> ronnylinux: And now you can't log in?
[09:59] <ronnylinux> sredna yes
[10:00] <suntzu> edgy analog joystick help....
[10:00] <sredna> ronnylinux: Are you sure it is typed correctly, and the the caps lock is off and your keyboard working correctly?
[10:01] <ronnylinux> sredna when I type incorrectly I get a "erro logging", now I dont anything it just goes back to the login screen
[10:02] <intelikey> ronnylinux choose a session and then login
[10:02] <sredna> ronnylinux: Can you log in in a text erminal? (press CTRL + ALT + F1 to get one)
[10:04] <ronnylinux> sredna I chose every sassion, nothing, then I went to konsole and I can get in there, but I that's it
[10:05] <sredna> ronnylinux: In a console session, ensure that your GUI environment (KDE?) is properly installed
[10:06] <ronnylinux> how to see that
[10:06] <cathal> just bough a new m-audio sound card but only 2 of the rca connectors are working, anyone any ideas what the casue might be?
[10:07] <azzco> intelikey: been looking around abit about changing the default font colour in konqueror. Didn't find anything in special application settings...
[10:07] <Ash_Fox> Hawkwind, well, a definate improvement.. unfortunately I still have to scroll to see everything :/
[10:08] <intelikey> azzco did changing the background not also change the font colour ?
[10:08] <sredna> ronnylinux: Use aptitude or apt-get
[10:08] <azzco> intelikey: didn't find out how to change bg
[10:09] <ronnylinux> sredna just that?, then?
[10:09] <intelikey> hmmmm well maybe i drempt it. azzco
[10:09] <intelikey> but there is a way.  this is linux.  you can do anything in linux.
[10:10] <azzco> intelikey: it's only becuase of some logins that have a white backgrounded window and when I browse files... I got the files to show up with a black text but I'd prefer a black bg
[10:10] <sredna> ronnylinux: 'aptitude search kde' would show a long list of packages, with a letter in the start of the line to indicate the status.
[10:10] <DaSkreech> ronnylinux: Are you sure that it is the right password?
[10:11] <intelikey> yeah i never do white backgrounds.   still using a CRT.
[10:11] <sredna> ronnylinux: You should also look in the logs for the problem
[10:11] <sredna> I don't know where kubuntu puts kdm messages though
[10:11] <sredna>  /var.log/kdm.log it seems
[10:11] <sredna>  /var/log/kdm.log it seems
[10:11] <intelikey> /etc/kde/kdm.conf  or something like that
[10:12] <bLaZeD> has anyone seen this b4?   sudo mount /media/ipod/
[10:12] <bLaZeD> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 12 16:08:10 2006
[10:12] <DaSkreech> I would just run startx and look at the error messages from the terminal
[10:12] <intelikey> oh messages not settings...
[10:12] <intelikey> i misread.
[10:13] <intelikey> i'll go back to trying to track this connection now. and leave you fellas alone.
[10:15] <bLaZeD> huh....very weird....my clock keeps changing time...like it did when i had a virus in windows......i log out then back in and its now 3 hours earlier on the clock then when i loged out 2 mins ago
[10:16] <kub824> when you say "log out" do you mean reboot?
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> bLaZeD: i had that problem when I wasn't connected to the internet all the time
[10:16] <bLaZeD> Admiral_Chicago, i am always online
[10:17] <bLaZeD> ....it started doing this last time i booted into windows...about a week ago
[10:17] <enzo_> !repos
[10:17] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:17] <enzo_> !source
[10:19] <enzo_> !source-o-matic
[10:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> bLaZeD: iirc windows messes up the time
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> you might want to run a script to auto connect the time
[10:20] <bLaZeD> Admiral_Chicago, ......its my system clokc that is messed up....
[10:20] <bLaZeD> not the timestamp in irc
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> no no, i know what you mean
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> the time is controlled by a file....i don't remember who told me about it
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> bLaZeD: let me find out
[10:22] <jhutchins_wk> bLaZeD: Windows expects the hardware clock to be set to local time.  Linux often expects UCT.  If you run a dual-boot system, you need to make sure that Linux expects local time from the HW clock.
[10:22] <bLaZeD> Admiral_Chicago, ahh that be very cool...im trying to set it to use the ntp...but it says it cant connect to it...but yet i can ping pool.ntp.org
[10:22] <lupine_85> !info kchart
[10:22] <ubotu> kchart: a chart drawing program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 1203 kB, installed size 3256 kB
[10:23] <bLaZeD> jhutchins_wk, ive never had this prob b4 with the time and dual booting...but how would i set that in linux?
[10:23] <nixternal> bLaZeD: you want your box to keep upto date?  like ping a ntp server say every hour?
[10:24] <bLaZeD> nixternal, if that will keep my clocks in lin eyes
[10:24] <bLaZeD> *line
[10:24] <nixternal> add this to /etc/crontab     ->        0  *    * * *   root    ntpdate -s ntp.ubuntu.com
[10:24] <nixternal> that will update your time on the hour every hour
[10:24] <nixternal> that is what i do here for every machine
[10:24] <bLaZeD> nixternal, ahh very sweet man =) thanks
[10:25] <nixternal> np
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> way to go nixternal
[10:26] <jhutchins_wk> nixternal: You should consider running ntpd instead.
[10:26] <nixternal> i know, but im lazy
[10:26] <nixternal> and im not that critical on time
[10:26] <bLaZeD> hmmm...i ran that command nixternal and its not updateing the time
[10:26] <kub824> !reiser
[10:26] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[10:27] <nixternal> sudo ntpdate -s ntp.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <bLaZeD> nix tire dthat
[10:27] <nixternal> that updates silently
[10:27] <nixternal> you don't see it work
[10:27] <bLaZeD> no go
[10:27] <nixternal> what is the issue at hand? is your time like an hour or so off?
[10:27] <bLaZeD> well i figured my time would go from 1:27 t o 4:27 as thats what time it is
[10:27] <kyaneos> hello
[10:28] <nixternal> ok
[10:28] <nixternal> your problem isn't he time server
[10:28] <nixternal> your timezone is off
[10:28] <bLaZeD> nixternal, i checked...its set to new yourk time
[10:28] <bLaZeD> which is correct
[10:29] <nixternal> hmmm
[10:29] <bLaZeD> nixternal, the other day i had to check use time server in the time/date manager thing...it updated fine
[10:29] <bLaZeD> nixternal, i then logged out of fluxbox and then back in.....and my time was way off
[10:30] <kub824> I've got a fresh Kubuntu 6.0.6 install. fstab has entries for all my old partitions, including one that is reiserfs; but the reiser entry is commented out.
[10:30] <nixternal> bLaZeD: cat /etc/timezone
[10:30] <nixternal> what is the answer
[10:30] <kub824> Is it safe for me to uncomment that and mount my reiserfs partition under Kubuntu?
[10:30] <bLaZeD> nixternal, now when i try and use the use time server it says that its unreachable...but i can ping it...somthing somewhere is actingup
[10:30] <bLaZeD> America/New_York
[10:30] <bLaZeD> im in boston....so same time zone
[10:31] <nixternal> hmm
[10:31] <bLaZeD> im gonna go try one thing
[10:31] <bLaZeD> brb
[10:32] <jhutchins_wk> rrrrg.  apt-get learning curve!
[10:32] <pacman> anyone know how I can fix my 3d acceleration on an ati card?
[10:33] <nixternal> which card?
[10:33] <pacman> Radeon 9550
[10:33] <method|> is beryl kind of bleh with konversation for anyone else?
[10:33] <nixternal> pacman: dapper or edgy?
[10:33] <pacman> dapper
[10:33] <nixternal> no rendering?  what exactly is the problem?
[10:34] <pacman> I downloaded torcs, and the frame rate is horrible
[10:34] <GeorgeM36Gr> hello all
[10:34] <nixternal> pacman: open up konsole, or a command prompt and type ->         glxinfo | grep rendering
[10:34] <nixternal> it will tell you yes/no
[10:35] <GeorgeM36Gr> anyone knows when edgy will be released officially?
[10:35] <pacman> it says no
[10:35] <nixternal> october 26
[10:35] <nixternal> there is your issue pacman, you need the fglrx drivers
[10:35] <GeorgeM36Gr> 16 days to go then
[10:35] <nixternal> let me link to you a howto that will get you up and running...much quicker and easier than trying to follow me
[10:35] <pacman> thanks
[10:36] <nixternal> pacman: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !tell GeorgeM36Gr about schedule
[10:36] <nixternal> !schedule
[10:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> err i think did that wrong
[10:36] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: you spend way to much time with them bots
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i just learned the !tell command but i forget the syntax
[10:36] <nixternal> hehe
[10:36] <DaSkreech> Oh I have an issue with filezilla and openssh
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: you spend too much time in the termial
[10:37] <DaSkreech> after like a day Filezilla can no longer login to the ssh server
[10:37] <Torched_> take it outside and settle it like men DaSkreech
[10:37] <nixternal> DaSkreech: openssh-server? not starting because of the bogus /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[10:37] <GeorgeM36Gr> go the msg Admiral_Chicago
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> good to hear
[10:37] <DaSkreech> nixternal: eh?
[10:37] <nixternal> my servers don't work after recent updates
[10:37] <nixternal> thought that is what you were talking aobut iwth the openssh
 take it outside and settle it like men DaSkreech
[10:38] <nixternal> hahahahaha
[10:38] <nixternal> touche
[10:38] <DaSkreech> I don't think it's an update it jsut stops working
[10:38] <nixternal> jesus people, join, then leave, then join, then leave
[10:38] <pacman> nixternal: that's what I've already done
[10:38] <DaSkreech> Unless I purge openssh and reinstall
[10:38] <nixternal> pacman: fglrxinfo
[10:39] <nixternal> does it say ATI or Mesa?
[10:39] <jhutchins_wk> nixternal: I think freenode's having problems today.  I turned off the join/part messages.
[10:39] <pacman> nixternal: Mesa
[10:39] <nixternal> there you go...the infamous Mesa has shown its head
[10:39] <nixternal> pacman: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[10:43] <jhutchins_wk> There we go, time sync once again.
[10:44] <Torched_> LET'S DO THE TIME SYNC AGAAAAIN
[10:44] <livingdaylight> what do i need to make quicktime play?
[10:45] <max_> hi all
[10:45] <livingdaylight> what do i need to make quicktime stuff play in my browser?
[10:46] <max_> does anyone have or know where to get any anime splash screenes/
[10:46] <max_> screens?*
[10:46] <toma5z> hi
[10:46] <toma5z> who speeak in polish ???
[10:47] <willnapier> hi folks
[10:47] <toma5z> hi folks
[10:48] <willnapier> I'm trying to get my logitech quickcam recognized in kopete
[10:48] <nuku> livingdaylight: depends on your browser and if you want the quicktime to be played embedded or in an external player
[10:48] <verwilst_> anyone here using compiz with kde in edgy by any chance? :d
[10:48] <livingdaylight> nuku: embedded, and the browser don't matter to me. I've got Konqueror and Firefox and Opera
[10:49] <DaSkreech> !pl
[10:49] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:50] <ataraxis> verwilst_: tested it, but i get random lockups and certain apps (remote desktop) don't work at all
[10:50] <nuku> livingdaylight: well firstoff you need the win32codec package.. then you can go with kmplayer-konq-plugins for konqueror or mozilla-mplayer for "netscape" plugins
[10:51] <max_> does anyone know where to get some anime splash(boot) screens?
[10:51] <livingdaylight> nuku: i got win32
[10:52] <nuku> (though i prefer kaffeine-mozilla which starts the movie in an kaffeine window so you can go easily to fullscreen and such)
[10:52] <max_> how about mPlayer
[10:53] <draik> My laptop won't boot :(
[10:54] <draik> It goes through GRUB
[10:54] <scott_w|lappy> you know what to do
[10:54] <draik> and it keels over after going through everything just prior to logon
[10:54] <draik> what's that, scott_w|lappy ?
[10:54] <scott_w|lappy> blow that mofo away
[10:55] <draik> what mofo? It's my laptop, running Kubuntu
[10:55] <jhutchins_wk> draik: Do you mean that the graphical login?  Or does it not even get to the console?
[10:55] <jhutchins_wk> draik: Or not running it as the case may be...
[10:55] <scott_w|lappy> draik: your laptop is the mofo that needs blowing away with the shotgun
[10:56] <malix0> buonasera
[10:56] <draik> I see the graphical icon of the blue KUBUNTU with the check list ( [OK]   on the right)
[10:56] <draik> but after that, all I can do is CTRL+ALT+F1
[10:56] <draik> TTY1 is all I can use from that point
[10:56] <draik> but I love my laptop, scott
[10:57] <scott_w|lappy> draik: i don't
[10:57] <draik> I'm not loving it at this particular moment, but it's still my laptop
[10:58] <scott_w|lappy> draik: i love my laptop every night >.>
[10:58] <draik> and that's why you need therapy :p
[10:58] <draik> jhutchins_wk, any clue about what's going on?
[10:58] <scott_w|lappy> draik: no, i need therapy because my laptop dumped me :(
[10:58] <draik> last I did was try to update to KDE 3.5.5
[10:58] <Sanne> draik: I read that sometimes usplash (the blue Kubuntu screen with the progress bar) fails to end properly at the end of booting. One possible fix would be to disable the usplash in your /boot/grub/menu.list (remove the word "splash" from the kernel command line, I believe.
[10:58] <MasterEvilAce> Okay, about making XP the default boot option.. is there anyway to make it FIRST in the list, or always the default option, no matter what # it is
[10:59] <draik> Thank you Sanne, I will try that right now
[10:59] <scott_w|lappy> MasterEvilAce: default NUMBER
[10:59] <Sanne> draik: good luck, hope it works
[10:59] <draik> I do too Sanne
[10:59] <Sanne> :)
[11:00] <MasterEvilAce> scott: but when new kernels are released, when you update the default # changes
[11:00] <_Shade_> i don't know whether this was ever reported, but the adept-updater in edgy seems to work inproperly
[11:00] <mabreaux> hello all
[11:00] <MasterEvilAce> or rather the position of XP in the list
[11:00] <scott_w|lappy> MasterEvilAce: copy menu.lst to grub.conf and tell grub to boot from that, then just alter the grub.conf with each kernel update
[11:01] <livingdaylight> nuku: installed kaffeine-mozilla
[11:01] <blind675> what's kubuntu's root password ...
[11:01] <blind675> what's kubuntu's root password ...
[11:01] <blind675> ???
[11:01] <draik> blind675, there is no password
[11:01] <draik> you can set one yourself
[11:01] <blind675> how ???
[11:02] <draik> or just    "sudo [command] "
[11:02] <fdoving> blind675: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#root
[11:02] <Sanne> blind675: usually, you don't need a root password
[11:02] <draik> sudo passwd root
[11:02] <draik> type that and you can set the root password
[11:02] <livingdaylight> nuku: tried to open a quicktime sample but it crashed and i got signal 11
[11:02] <blind675> 10x
[11:03] <Sanne> blind675: be sure to read fdoving's link, please
[11:03] <LjL> !root > blind675
[11:03] <_Shade_> what's the command by which i can run an adept-updater?
[11:04] <Sanne> _Shade_: you can find out yourself: open a konsole, type 'adept<tab><tab>' You should get a list with all commands starting with "adept"
[11:05] <draik> Sanne, remove the word "splash" from the command line starting with "kernel"?
[11:06] <Sanne> draik: just a sec, let me open my menu.list quickly
[11:06] <draik> Thank you
[11:06] <draik> Sanne
[11:06] <_Shade_> Sanne: thanks for your hint - now i know it's adept_updater :)
[11:07] <Sanne> _Shade_: exactly :)
[11:07] <FastElbow> does anyone know where i can find he 1.5 version of the nxclient? 2.0 is not compatible with freenx. A alternative is welcome too
[11:08] <Sanne> draik: in a line like this: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[11:08] <draik> perfect
[11:08] <Sanne> draik: removing the "splash" should disable the usplash
[11:08] <draik> Thank you Sanne, I will do that
[11:08] <Sanne> draik: but, wait!
[11:08] <_Shade_> Sanne: but it didn't help anyway because i wanted to report a bug, but it doesn't show any output in the console :(
[11:08] <draik> ok
[11:09] <nuku> livingdaylight: what crashed? kaffeine or the browser?
[11:09] <draik> Sanne, what am I waiting for?
[11:10] <Sanne> draik: if you ever run update-grub, it might get you the splash back. update-grub is a script that puts certain boot parameters automatically to every kernel command line in your menu.list. It can be controlled by the part just above the boot entries, starting with: ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[11:10] <livingdaylight> nuku: kaffeine aguess
[11:10] <draik> oic
[11:11] <Sanne> draik:  just so you know, now try it out ;)
[11:11] <draik> Ok
[11:11] <draik> just did Sanne
[11:11] <Sanne> and?
[11:11] <draik> no blue Kubuntu, but it's left me at the CLI to login to TTY1
[11:11] <nuku> livingdaylight: might try to play a mov file you first downloaded and open it with kaffeine so you can see if its the plugin or kaffeine handling quicktime
[11:12] <Sanne> draik: bummer, then the usplash is not your problem :(
[11:12] <Sanne> draik: you can try to start kde manually
[11:12] <draik> how?
[11:13] <LjL> try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart for starters
[11:13] <Sanne> draik: log in to the cli, then try startx or startkde... of what LjL said :)
[11:13] <fdoving> gnite.
[11:13] <Sanne> night
[11:13] <LjL> then after seeing it doesn't work i'd try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and set VESA mode
[11:13] <TheGateKeeper> nite fdoving
[11:14] <draik> LjL, I will do that now
[11:15] <draik> Thank you Sanne for your help
[11:15] <Sanne> draik: you're welcome
[11:16] <david_> draik: are you runnign eft>
[11:16] <david_> with nvidia drivers?
[11:17] <draik> david_ no, it's an HP Pavilion N5150
[11:17] <draik> it's really old skool
[11:17] <draik> back from 2000
[11:17] <draik> sadly enough, it came with winme
[11:17] <scott_w|lappy> win me is abysmal tbh
[11:18] <scott_w|lappy> i used to use it ; ;
[11:18] <scott_w|lappy> it almost turned me emo
[11:18] <draik> I got rid of it ASAP
[11:18] <scott_w|lappy> but SuSE 9.3 brought me back from the brink :)
[11:18] <jhutchins_wk> draik: What you probably have is a problem with the video drivers for X.
[11:19] <draik> LjL's suggestion worked
[11:19] <draik> Thank you LjL
[11:19] <LjL> draik: just a workaround though
[11:19] <jhutchins_wk> draik: Ah, but what about next time you boot?
[11:19] <LjL> using X in VESA mode isn't exactly optimal
[11:19] <LjL> what's your gfx card?
[11:19] <LjL> jhutchins_wk: well, next boot will keep using VESA...
[11:19] <gan|y|med> hello
[11:19] <draik> It's funny cuz that happened to my desktop (this sign on) and I forgot how I fixed the issue
[11:20] <jhutchins_wk> Sorry, a little behind in the scrollback...
[11:20] <gan|y|med> is it possible to play drm protected material in linux/ubuntu?
[11:20] <Sanne> draik: I should have thought of video issue first before pushing you through changing menu.list. Sorry.
[11:20] <draik> It's ok
[11:20] <Sanne> :)
[11:20] <draik> Sanne, it's ok. Besides, it's just a minor thing to remove the "splash".
[11:21] <Sanne> draik: thanks
[11:21] <draik> Sanne, thanks for what? You're the one that helped me!
[11:21] <Sanne> draik: :)
[11:22] <draik> Thank you Sanne, LjL, jhutchins_wk and david_
[11:22] <LjL> draik: hold on a second, though, you don't *want* to keep using VESA. what's your graphics card?
[11:23] <draik> LjL, it's titled "savage"
[11:23] <draik> and that's what I have for the driver
[11:23] <LjL> is that an S3 card?
[11:24] <LjL> draik: try running that dpkg-reconfigure command again, and select s3 as the driver...
[11:24] <LjL> draik: (besides, what driver was selected before you changed it to VESA now?)
[11:25] <draik> let me check
[11:26] <draik> s3
[11:26] <jmichaelx> wassup draik!
[11:26] <draik> jmichaelx, how goes it?
[11:27] <jmichaelx> hey, has anyone else had problems getting X to start after upgrading to KDE 3.5.5?
[11:27] <draik> jmichaelx, everything working for you?
[11:27] <draik> Nope
[11:27] <jmichaelx> draik: great, except that X has died on my laptop
[11:27] <draik> jmichaelx, aparently I did with my laptop
[11:27] <draik> Just like you did
[11:27] <draik> I just got mine resolved
[11:28] <LjL> draik: well... i suppose for some reason the s3 driver doesn't work for you S3 card then. unless someone knows of a workaround, you'll just be stuck with vesa i'm afraid :\
[11:29] <jmichaelx> draik: what did you do to resolve it?
[11:29] <jhutchins_wk> lspci might give more info about the chipset.
[11:29] <draik> jmichaelx, type   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:29] <Sanne> draik: didn't you say chose the savage driver?
[11:29] <jhutchins_wk> jmichaelx: He switched from the s3 driver to the VESA, but that's a very low-res, low-performance drivers.
[11:30] <draik> Sanne, I chose the savage driver, yes
[11:30] <jmichaelx> funny thing , though, i rebooted after i installed 3.5.5 , and it worked fine.... i rebotted again, and X is dead
[11:30] <draik> Graphics card and driver both say   "savage"
[11:30] <Sanne> draik: then you should be set. I found this, if you're interested: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man4/savage.4.html
[11:30] <jmichaelx> ok, i have integrated intel/////
[11:31] <draik> I have intel as well
[11:31] <jmichaelx> do i just need to dpkg-reconfigure?
[11:31] <jhutchins_wk> draik: lspci says I have a "S3 Inc. 86c775/86c785 [Trio 64V2/DX or /GX]  (rev 16)"
[11:31] <jmichaelx> what did 3.5.5 do that messed with my video settings?
[11:33] <tmdx120> Im trying to upgrade amarok. How do I enable dapper-backports?
[11:34] <draik> jhutchins_wk, mine says "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 11)"
[11:34] <draik> jmichaelx, I think it might be a laptop issue
[11:34] <draik> My desktop is fine
[11:34] <draik> my laptop was what ate it from the 3.5.5 update
[11:34] <jmichaelx> if someone has a suggestion on how i might get X running again on my laptop, please let me know
[11:34] <jmichaelx> draik: probably.... did you just reconfigure?
[11:35] <draik> yes I did jmichaelx
[11:35] <jmichaelx> and that was all it took to fix it?? (ihope)
[11:35] <willnapier> hi - I am trying to use a webcam with uvc which relies on v4l2 (video for linux 2). I have found out that v4l2 is in the 2.6 kernel, so how do I 'activate' this?
[11:38] <draik> jmichaelx, that did the trick for me
[11:38] <draik> !kde
[11:38] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[11:39] <jmichaelx> draik:  somehow i doubt it will be that simple for me........
[11:39] <draik> you never know until you try
[11:39] <BigIron> Hello everyone, I need a font veiwer for Kubuntu
[11:40] <jmichaelx> hallelujah!
[11:40] <jmichaelx> lol
[11:40] <jmichaelx> ok draik, ty much. back up and running...
[11:41] <Sanne> BigIron: there's kfontview, don't knwo if it's being installed by default.
[11:41] <draik> jmichaelx, yw. :)
[11:41] <BigIron> Thank you
[11:42] <draik> !source-o-matic
[11:42] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:42] <Sanne> BigIron: I just checked, for me it's integrated in Konqueror and opens and displays a ttf if I double click on it.
[11:42] <jmichaelx> by the way draik, are you in dapper or edgy?
[11:43] <draik> dapper
[11:55] <doph089> hello
[11:55] <doph089> im back
[11:55] <paul___> cool it works
[11:58] <paul___> well this weird
[11:58] <method|>  i have this usb sound card (maya44usb) and linux recognizes it and I can select it in kmix. How do i make kde output to this soundcard instead of my internal one?
[12:01] <Perham> hi guys
[12:02] <Perham>  i have a great prblem with kubuntu.
[12:03] <Perham> when i try to install that it does not detect my fat3 partions as  like as my reiserfs partitions. gparted shows me a 233gb unallocated space. (it's my hard's capacity)
[12:03] <SeicherlBoB> can anybody help me out with a wpa_supplicant problem?
[12:04] <fignew> Perham: I'd try the kubuntu alternative install CD
[12:04] <SeicherlBoB> my AP has beaconing deactivated, but the client cant "find" the accesspoint though the SSIDs are correct. If i activate beaconing on the AP, it works perfectly.
[12:04] <carlos> hey everyone
[12:05] <fignew> perham: you are trying to install 6.06 right?
[12:05] <fignew> why would you have beaconing disabled?
[12:05] <SeicherlBoB> fignew: cause noone should know i have a wlan running here
[12:05] <ccc_> try wifi radar....it solves a lota problems
[12:06] <Perham> yes but in the next section i see my partitions. and when i assign them (linux ex3 for root and linux swap for swap.)  then installing stops with no root error.
[12:06] <livingdaylight> anyone know what is a prerequisite for programming in java in kubuntu?
[12:06] <Perham> what is kubuntu alternative cd?
[12:06] <SeicherlBoB> ccc_: but it used to work a couple of days ago. why not today? i didnt change anything
[12:06] <carlos> can someone tell me if they are also seeing only 5,186 available packages in Adept w/all extra reps.
[12:06] <Perham> i'm installing from the live cd i got from shipit.
[12:06] <fignew> SeicherlBoB: unless, ofcourse, you're connected, and the the SSID is then visible for everyone to see, right?
[12:07] <method|>  i have this usb sound card (maya44usb) and linux recognizes it and I can select it in kmix. How do i make kde output to this soundcard instead of my internal one?
[12:07] <fignew> Perham: can you download an .ISO?
[12:07] <livingdaylight> anyone know what software / packages are requred to work/program in java in Kbuntu?
[12:07] <Perham> i dont have broad band internet so actually no.
[12:07] <fignew> method|: can you disable the internal one in the BIOS?
[12:08] <SeicherlBoB> fignew: well, anyway. it has to work without beaconing. and it worked some days ago. but now it tells me "skip + SSID mismatch"
[12:08] <Perham> is my cd'swrong?
[12:08] <fignew> Perham: aww, did you do the automatic partitioning?
[12:08] <vge> livingdaylight: i have used Eclipse when working with java
[12:08] <carlos> livingdaylight: try j2sdk1.4 from the adept pkg mngr
[12:08] <Perham> no
[12:08] <BonBonTheJon> !rsync
[12:08] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.6-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 214 kB, installed size 444 kB
[12:08] <Perham> be sure
[12:08] <method|> fignew: i dont neccesarily want to disable it i just want it to output to my usb one instead of my internal one when it's plugged in
[12:09] <Perham> i selected the manual
[12:09] <livingdaylight> vge: Eclipse is a text editor?
[12:09] <Perham>  besides i can mount all of my partitions in suse 10.1
[12:09] <vge> little more than that
[12:09] <SeicherlBoB> livingdaylight: you can use it as such aswell ^^
[12:09] <mattttttt> probably a stupid question, but how do i uninstalled kubuntu?
[12:09] <mattttttt> uninstall*
[12:09] <livingdaylight> carlos: i have sun-java jre1.5 already. Does that cover it?
[12:10] <fignew> mattttttt: install something over it
[12:10] <livingdaylight> SeicherlBoB: so, Eclipse is more than a text editor?
[12:10] <mattttttt> eh?
[12:10] <Sanne> method|: I remember reading that there are ways to tell alsa which card to use when. I *think* it's controlled by a file ~/asoundrc or similar. That's all I know about it, but it might get you started.
[12:10] <carlos> anyone, my softw rep went down from +18K to only 5186 is this hapening to anyone else?
[12:11] <mattttttt> i believe i screwed up...i deleted the kubuntu partitions but grub is still there and now has a loading error, so i can't boot windows
[12:11] <fignew> carlos: try going to the terminal and doing sudo apt-get update
[12:11] <fignew> ooohh mattttttt
[12:11] <neom> Is there a kubuntu liveCD that will work on my macbook, or..? :o
[12:11] <fignew> stick in the windows install CD and do a recovery
[12:11] <fignew> or repair
[12:11] <fignew> neom: the regular CD
[12:11] <mattttttt> alright, thanks.
[12:12] <fignew> that'll overwrite grub
[12:12] <SeicherlBoB> livingdaylight: yeah. its your best friend when working with java ^^
[12:12] <carlos> livingdaylight: that should cover it beside the editor. install the j2sdk1.4-doc and read thru it