[12:01] <LjL> grahamldlw: Desktop. capital D
[12:01] <anon32> time to try it then
[12:01] <puff> The module (ipw200) is there in lsmod. Hm.
[12:01] <bruenig> grahamldlw, it's Desktop
[12:01] <cpk2> grahamldlw: caps matter in linux
[12:01] <clearzen> does anyone know how to setup a server using 2 ethernet cards? I have the server connected to a wireless AP.(which works) and I also have it hardwired to a router.(It does not work). The AP points to the router as the default gateway. Can I have both these connections active at the same time on different ips??
[12:01] <IcemanV9> grahamldlw: cd Desktop
[12:01] <black_13> how would install all the dependencies for developement that is gcc g++ make automake ?
[12:01] <ladydoor> black_13: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[12:01] <kitche> clearzen: yes you can you just have to ifup <device>
[12:01] <anon32> gah... too large, aborting
[12:02] <bruenig> some of the dependencies are in the universe repo
[12:02] <clearzen> i tryed that but it gives me destination unreachable. I tested the cord and it is good
[12:02] <grahamldlw> ok done it added desktop onto the line of stuff
[12:02] <sladen> clearzen: yes you can, what are the two IPs?
[12:02] <bruenig> worth*
[12:02] <jordan> grahamldlw, The reason that this program is so 'hard' to install is that it is still a Beta ( it is not yet finished / in developement ) almost all finished programs have binaries for linux.
[12:02] <clearzen> 192.168.1.21 and 192.168.1.22
[12:02] <grahamldlw> yeh but i ahve like 5 different programs to install so i want the general drift
[12:03] <clearzen> for the internal network
[12:03] <bruenig> grahamldlw, ok do this "tar jxvf ta3d-v-0-2-1.tar.bz2"
[12:03] <brenlae> hi, why doesn't the export command work in ubuntu?
[12:03] <ladydoor> brenlae: um, it does...
[12:03] <sladen> grahamldlw: or just double-click on the file!
[12:03] <grahamldlw> it did somethin
[12:03] <bruenig> yeah, it extracted it
[12:03] <grahamldlw> now what?
[12:03] <sladen> brenlae: export FOO=bar   is a shell command
[12:03] <brenlae> ok, one sec...
[12:03] <black_13> ladydoor thank you again
[12:04] <ladydoor> black_13: no problem!
[12:04] <lansing> wat should i do
[12:04] <avagant> ok i have a question.
[12:04] <bruenig> grahamldlw, you are going to need to install somethings to be able to configure this. "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[12:04] <avagant> I have an important question to ask!!
[12:04] <sladen> grahamldlw: cd ta3d*/ ; ./ta[tab] 
[12:04] <clearzen> Do I need to bring the interfaces online in a certain order to get it to work??
[12:04] <ladydoor> IcemanV9: oh. hmmm.
[12:04] <brenlae> worked, i tried sudo before the command, guess that was the problem
[12:04] <jordan> sladen, So you can help with dependencies, this is the program grahamldlw is trying to install. http://ta3d.sourceforge.net/linuxdl-en.html
[12:04] <avagant> It says the harddrive I have ubuntu actually on isn't mounted, the one that has root is that a bad thing?
[12:04] <sladen> clearzen: no, they will work fine.
[12:04] <kitche> clearzen: no but does the router give off a ip or no?
[12:04] <dgrantwork> anyone know of a howto on how to set my fqdn in ubuntu?
[12:04] <cpk2> sladen: might want to let him know that if he has a gunzip its tar xzvf
[12:04] <sladen> clearzen: if you care which network interfaces packets leave via, then you'll need to do some funky configuration
[12:05] <clearzen> give off an ip?? what do you mean. Both the ips on the server are static
[12:05] <avagant> My second hardrive my spare is mounted but my main one that has Ubuntu on isn't mounted.
[12:05] <lansing> hey avagant i got a lil prob if u could help would be apresh
[12:05] <avagant> It hasn't been giving me problems.
[12:05] <sladen> cpk2: excellent, but you might want to tell the person directly :)
[12:05] <clearzen> can I change the way the ip route
[12:05] <avagant> I just wondered if maybe that's gonna be a problem down the line.
[12:05] <dsnyders> Hi all.  In Ubuntu is there a gui tool for mounting partitions permanently, or is a manual edit of /etc/fstab the only way?
[12:05] <app> My IBM z60m with ATI Mobility Radeon can not show picture on external video out and laptop at the same time. Any ideas? Using 6.06 live cd.
[12:05] <clearzen> i know you can see the table with route -n
[12:06] <cpk2> sladen: well dont want to confuse him by having tons of people piping in =P
[12:06] <avagant> lansing: What's the prob?
[12:06] <kitche> !xinerama
[12:06] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[12:06] <sladen> clearzen: you can do fancy routeing setups with the   'ip route ... via ...'  command
[12:06] <kitche> app have you got xinerama working?
[12:06] <Buglouse> Ok. Heres my setup: I have a remote Windows XP Pro box that I download various things on through a torrent client.  On that box I have a FTP Server running, and from my home box (Ubuntu Drapper) I upload the torrents that I find to the Windows Server.  Now, when I connect to the Server to enable the torrents, the client says "Unable to Read Torrent File! Please Re-Download the torrent file!" So I look on my torrents file permisions and it allows all to
[12:06] <Buglouse> read, write, execute.  So I was thinking "WTF" and I booted up my Windows partition and tryed the same thing from the same source, I downloaded the torrent and uploaded it to my Server, I connected my Server and the torrent worked fine!  So I guess the problem is with the Linux to Windows file transfer.  Does anyone know what could be causing this?? Is it that I don't have Samba configured correctly (at all) because this is not on a network, so I didn't
[12:06] <Buglouse>  think I would have to configure Samba.
[12:06] <sidny4> !twinview
[12:06] <clearzen> thanks, I'll look into that
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <app> no xinerama here
[12:06] <sladen> cpk2: indeedy, so probably don't want to confused people at this stage
[12:06] <avagant> Anybody?
[12:06] <clearzen> I'll see if I can get it to work
[12:06] <sky123> dsynders: id have to say to get some gaurantees out the mounting...stick with fstab...just my two cents..
[12:06] <cpk2> grahamldlw: remember that tar jxvf is for archives that end in .bz2 if the archive ends in .gz you will need to do tar xzvf
[12:07] <avagant> !help
[12:07] <puff> So, my best bet might be to download & burn an ubuntu install CD on a friend's mach ine.
[12:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:07] <bruenig> cpk2, or just use tar xvf for either
[12:07] <grahamldlw> yeh i dont understand any of this im just doing as im told
[12:07] <lansing> wen iam in the terminal iget this error wen i type this sudo apt-get install java2-runtime
[12:07] <lansing> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:07] <lansing> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:07] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: that's a good start.
[12:07] <sladen> Buglouse: the .torrent file is probably corrupt
[12:07] <puff> Can I install-from-CD  while preserving all of my user data, etc, from my current install?
[12:07] <grahamldlw> it's better the blindly ignoring anyway :D
[12:07] <avagant> lansing: Do you have Synaptic open?
[12:07] <ladydoor> lansing: you need to close aptitude or synaptic or adept or whatever package manager you have open.
[12:07] <avagant> Or another Window doing the same thing?
[12:07] <sladen> Buglouse: type    file foobar.torrent    and it might tell you that it's an HTML file or something
[12:07] <avagant> ladydoor: Beat me too it.
[12:07] <puff> Hello?
[12:07] <sky123> lansing: do you have another package manager open...close one..
[12:08] <Buglouse> sladen: no, i've re-downloaded the file many times and re-tried many times.
[12:08] <lansing> k
[12:08] <ladydoor> avagant: lol
[12:08] <aFx> clearzen : does IP impact have no as booting
[12:08] <avagant> :D
[12:08] <app> Should I use Xinerama? I don't really need that functionality, just the same picture on video and laptop...
[12:08] <avagant> ladydoor: Is my main hd with Ubuntu on it suppose to be mounted? It's not giving me problems but I'm not sure.
[12:08] <grahamldlw> i take it everyone in here other then myself has quite a good technical knowledge, especially considering i thought i was "in the know" and i dont have the slightest idea what anyones on about
[12:08] <dsnyders> sky123.  In this day and age we can't put a "mount at boot time" checkbox on a gui somewhere?
[12:08] <sladen> puff: yes, you will just need to follow the prompts carefully
[12:08] <clearzen> I'm not sure. I haven't heard of ip impact before
[12:08] <bruenig> grahamldlw, looking in the readme file, it says there is another dependency you need that I am pretty sure you don't have. Once build-essential downloads and gets installed. Go to System>Administration>Software Properties, once in there click on the first thing, then click add, then check the two unchecked boxes (universe and multiverse).
[12:08] <puff> sladen: Thanks.
[12:08] <lansing> Package java2-runtime is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:08] <lansing> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:08] <lansing> is only available from another source
[12:08] <lansing> E: Package java2-runtime has no installation candidate
[12:08] <ladydoor> avagant: what do you mean? i assume that / should be mounted...
[12:08] <LjL> !info java2-runtime
[12:08] <sladen> Buglouse: probably the original on the server is corrupt then!
[12:08] <ladydoor> !tell lansing about repositories
[12:08] <ubotu> Package java2-runtime does not exist in any distro I know
[12:09] <kitche> LjL: it's called jre
[12:09] <avagant> ladydoor: I mean like my main one is /dev/hda1
[12:09] <grahamldlw> i did that already, i just clicked on all of them
[12:09] <sky123> dsynders: I suppose...but again you're talking to someone that has become accustomed to using config files...
[12:09] <Buglouse> sladen: no, I replaced the file many times.  Please trust me on this one. The file is not corrupt.
[12:09] <avagant> And I did dh or whatever and it's showing in /dev/hda1 but not as mounted.
[12:09] <clearzen> how can I make the hardwired ip the ip used by the outside address for connection??
[12:09] <avagant> Is it a problem it's not mounted? I haven't had any issues so far.
[12:09] <sladen> lansing: try  sun-java5-jre
[12:09] <ladydoor> avagant: i assume so...could you paste your /etc/fstab and the error you're getting to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[12:10] <bruenig> grahamldlw, yeah sorry I misinformed you on that last one (not too familiar doing it without command line). You need to click on all of them, then click add and check all of them.
[12:10] <Buglouse> sladen: "file" tells me its a BitTorrent file
[12:10] <avagant> ladydoor: It's not really an error, like I said nothing bad has happened so far.
[12:10] <sladen> Buglouse: what happens if you double click on the file under Ubuntu?
[12:10] <app> Am I right, that switching between video out and laptop screen must be controlled by different tools for different video chips? What's the tool for ATI Mobility Radeon?
[12:10] <ladydoor> avagant: ah.
[12:10] <grahamldlw> yeh i did that already
[12:10] <lansing> says it couldnt find it
[12:10] <Buglouse> sladen: It opens with BitTorrent
[12:10] <sladen> Buglouse: what will check the file rather than just looking at the header ("glancing at the front-cover")
[12:11] <grahamldlw> someone else i know told me to do that, someone that can acctually use it tho
[12:11] <app> I mean, when the defaul Fn+F7 does not work properly...
[12:11] <Buglouse> sladen: thats how i konw the file is not corrupt
[12:11] <avagant> ladydoor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26364/
[12:11] <sladen> Buglouse: what size is the file;  is the file the same size after you have copied it to the MS Windows machine?
[12:11] <avagant> let me get the fstab here.
[12:11] <bruenig> grahamldlw, ok, well close that go back to the terminal then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install liballegro4.2"
[12:11] <sky123> any ubuntu sparc users in the house??
[12:12] <ladydoor> avagant: that looks fine as far as i can tell...
[12:12] <Buglouse> sladen: just to tell you, i know what im doing.. not new to Linux nor Windows, just havn't came across this problem before.
[12:12] <Buglouse> no thats the thing to
[12:12] <grahamldlw> done
[12:12] <Lane> How does one assign a second Ip to one nic say eth0?
[12:12] <Hany> Help wanted..
[12:12] <sky123> im havinf some trouble installing openldap with tls support...via source on sparc...any body out there that can help out??
[12:12] <bruenig> grahamldlw, ok do "cd ~/Desktop/ta3d"
[12:12] <aFx> avagant : what is system that install in /dev/hda1?
[12:12] <avagant> ladydoor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26365/
[12:12] <boink> Lane: alias it
[12:12] <avagant> I installed ubuntu on /dev/hda1
[12:12] <IcemanV9> what the heck is this lib called libmusicbrainz4c2a?? fwiw, that IS the one borked my volume control this morning.
[12:13] <bruenig> grahamldlw, now do "sudo ./configure" and pray
[12:13] <avagant> I just didn't know if it was suppose to be actually mounted or not, it's in dev/hda1
[12:13] <Hany> can anybody help me with my sound chipset? it just vanishes after a few seconds of my login
[12:13] <Buglouse> On my box: 4415.torrent 11,851 kb; On the Server: 11,887 kb
[12:13] <lansing> is it a problem if my java package s in my tmp folder
[12:13] <Buglouse> sladen: On my box: 4415.torrent 11,851 kb; On the Server: 11,887 kb
[12:13] <sladen> sky123: I think there might be an #ubuntu-sparc
[12:13] <avagant> if you want to unpackage it lansing you have to cd to the exact place.
[12:13] <LjL> bruenig: excuse me? :P
[12:13] <jordan> bruenig, So you can help with dependencies, this is the program grahamldlw is trying to install. http://ta3d.sourceforge.net/linuxdl-en.html
[12:13] <LjL> bruenig, grahamldlw: type "./configure" -- no sudo please
[12:13] <avagant> so you would have to go cd /tmp
[12:13] <avagant> or whereever it is, always make sure you know where your packages end up.
[12:13] <bruenig> sorry, didn't mean sudo, don't know what I was thinking
[12:13] <lansing> k wat to i type fully
[12:14] <sky123> sladen: sweet thnx
[12:14] <avagant> Because I totally did that myself.
[12:14] <avagant> And I had 30 packages I don't remember installing in one place.
[12:14] <SethPell> Can anyone suggest a good way to get started contributing to OSS projects? I'm at best an intermediate programmer, and a total novice at linux, but I'd like to learn more about both.
[12:14] <LjL> bruenig: happens. i just jumped on you  because people sometimes just throws sudoes around thinking it's ok...
[12:14] <avagant> ladydoor is that gonna be a problem?
[12:14] <bayzider> can some one help me i used wine to install photoshop 7.0 and when i go to run it it gives me some weird error(cant c/p its to big)
[12:14] <kitche> SethPell: fix bugs easiest way to get into OSS projects
[12:14] <sky123> sladen: spoke to soon..its desolate in there
[12:15] <malix0>  hi all is there some one interested on solving this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840
[12:15] <grahamldlw> done all that
[12:15] <avagant> I guess maybe I should try and mount my first hd.
[12:15] <bruenig> grahamldlw, how is all that going, note the "./configure"
[12:15] <IcemanV9> bayzider: use paste
[12:15] <IcemanV9> !paste
[12:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:15] <bayzider> how?
[12:15] <jordan> SethPell, You can do Beta testing and report bugs, or if you are artistic you can contribute icons and other artwork.
[12:15] <avagant> Even though it talks about some error or something.
[12:15] <grahamldlw> yh that too
[12:15] <avagant> defaults, errors=remount -ro is that normal?
[12:15] <bruenig> grahamldlw, did it say everything was configured ok?
[12:15] <grahamldlw> yeh
[12:16] <bayzider> ok i did it
[12:16] <SethPell> kitche: are there any tutorials or anything like that to get me started?
[12:16] <BCMacbook> hello, may i ask an installation troubleshooting question
[12:16] <BCMacbook> ?
[12:16] <ladydoor> avagant: that looks fine except that there are no options or dump or pass specified for /dev/hdb1
[12:16] <Ptero-4> Hi.
[12:16] <avagant> ladydoor: dump or pass?
[12:16] <jordan> !ask
[12:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:16] <avagant> ladydoor: I'm about as n00b as they come.
[12:16] <ladydoor> avagant: like all the other partitions have. the last two fields
[12:16] <SethPell> jordan: I was hoping more to do some actual programming rather than just bug reporting, but do you think that's jumping in over my head?
[12:16] <bruenig> grahamldlw, ok do "make"
[12:16] <IcemanV9> bayzider: tell us your pastebin number# (the whole website :)
[12:16] <kitche> SethPell: nope not really you kinda need to know how the software works to really fix bugs
[12:16] <avagant> Should I mount my main one?
[12:17] <bayzider> how do i tell you that
[12:17] <avagant> I don't want to screw anything up.
[12:17] <ladydoor> avagant: it's mounted.
[12:17] <bayzider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26366/\
[12:17] <bayzider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26366/*
[12:17] <ladydoor> avagant: if your computer is on and you're in ubuntu, / is mounted.
[12:17] <avagant> Haha.
[12:17] <bayzider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26366/  *
[12:17] <grahamldlw> it had like 10000 errors
[12:17] <BCMacbook> ubotu thanks.. i was making sure i was in the right room..here is the question: on install i get the following error "unknown keyword in config file" i can't seem to find a solution via google.. any suggestions?
[12:17] <avagant> I just didn't know if I should specify a mount point.
[12:17] <IcemanV9> bayzider: you got it. :)
[12:17] <bayzider> ok
[12:17] <SethPell> kitche: I more meant in terms of OSS in general... acronyms like CVS and SVN crop up all over the place, and I have no idea how to use either
[12:17] <avagant> I just noticed it now, I probably should have thought of that.
[12:18] <ladydoor> avagant: nope! it's already specified, if you look at your post! :-). sorry, but i've got to go now...
[12:18] <jordan> SethPell, Not at all, if you want to help programming go for it :)
[12:18] <kitche> BCMacbook what's that error deal with exactly since an app would be nice to know
[12:18] <avagant> Oh ok! later.
[12:18] <avagant> Wait no!
[12:18] <grahamldlw> compilation terminated
[12:18] <bruenig> grahamldlw, I don't even have 3d drivers or anything of that sort so at this point I become useless. I can't really see what it is asking for and I don't have any interest to try to install something that I cannot possibly use. Google the errors or see if anyone else in here can help
[12:18] <avagant> You are talking about my hdb1 I'm talking my hda1!
[12:18] <bayzider> icemanv9: so whats wrong?
[12:18] <BCMacbook> oh sorry, install of ubuntu install disk 6.06
[12:18] <avagant> Oh well, I guess it's good neough for me.
[12:18] <grahamldlw> nah it's ok i wanted to giv up ages ago anyway
[12:19] <kitche> SethPell: well you can find many stuff but to get into developing you have to either make your own program or fix bugs until you get asked to join the official dev
[12:19] <malix0> can someone try this http://www.massimofidanza.it/firefox
[12:19] <grahamldlw> i havent got the self control to put up with this atm
[12:19] <sladen> sky123: hang around for 24hours;  people have to sleep sometime.  Ask you question and come back after lunch
[12:19] <lansing> wat do i type after that avagant
[12:19] <kitche> BCMacbook: so it says that for the whole ubuntu or is it to do with xorg?
[12:19] <SethPell> jordan: thanks for the encouragement :)
[12:19] <avagant> well did you download the package, lansing?
[12:20] <sladen> grahamldlw: why did the compalation fail?
[12:20] <bruenig> grahamldlw, most stuff is much easier than this. You installed build-essential and liballegro the way most things are installed a quick sudo apt-get install whatever. This is source code compilation which is nearly never needed. I haven't compiled anything on this install.
[12:20] <BCMacbook> Im not sure.. the first thing i see is something about isolinux, and tehn i get that error, no further.. if x11 is the first thing loaded then i would assume the problem is with x11
[12:20] <lansing> yah both bin and jre
[12:20] <avagant> Well do you remember where you installed it?
[12:20] <bayzider> IcemanV9 : you there???
[12:20] <avagant> like the exact place?
[12:20] <lansing> tmp
[12:20] <SethPell> kitche: you wouldn't happen to have any recommendations for a project I have a hope of bug hunting on? Things like Firefox and Ubuntu and Wine seem kinda... big
[12:20] <grahamldlw> ta3d.cpp:1939: fatal error: opening dependency file .deps/ta3d.Tpo: Permission denied
[12:20] <avagant> so it's just tmp or is it /usr/tmp?
[12:20] <grahamldlw> compilation terminated.
[12:20] <IcemanV9> bayzider: no idea .. someone will help ya - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26366/  - please someone help bayzider
[12:21] <kitche> BCMacbook: yeah you must be using the livecd install I had to use an alternate install cd
[12:21] <sladen> grahamldlw: what you're attempting to do is something like recompile quake3 on a Windows machine.  It's fairly rare...
[12:21] <lansing> usr tmp
[12:21] <IcemanV9> bayzider: i am looking at winehq.com to see if there is a solution
[12:21] <BCMacbook> kitche: i've tried both.. same thing
[12:21] <kitche> SethPell umm many
[12:21] <lansing> nvm just tmp
[12:21] <avagant> just tmp?
[12:21] <aFx> by now ,i did not know what there was those function in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org it seem to be good to ask long word
[12:21] <lansing> yup
[12:21] <avagant> well you can try cd /tmp but i don't know if you'll get anywhere.
[12:22] <lansing> iam not gettin anywhere
[12:22] <SethPell> kitche: sorry for the ignorance, I'm very new to linux and OSS and whatnot
[12:22] <avagant> cd means change directory.
[12:22] <sidny4> the /.directories, are they basically the same as windows "hidden" directories?
[12:22] <kitche> SethPell well best way to learn is to just dive in anyways I'll brb
[12:22] <avagant> you've got to change to the directory you downloaded it in in order to unpackage it.
[12:22] <DragonKing27> yes
[12:22] <sidny4> ok
[12:22] <Flannel> sidny4: right, a . as a first character (folder or file) makes it hidden
[12:22] <grahamldlw> i recompiled quake3 on my windows it was on there till i reformatted the hard drive hence why im using ubuntu, windows is easier for that sort of thing
[12:23] <grahamldlw> to me as i've only ever used it anyway
[12:23] <IcemanV9> bayzider: lots of info on Photoshop/wine > http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1336
[12:23] <SethPell> kitche, ok, thanks for your help :)
[12:23] <adam_> what's the command to move a file?
[12:23] <lansing> iam in the tmp directory but i ant gettin anywhere unless iam typin it in rong
[12:23] <sidny4> that's what I thought, wasn't 100% sure though
[12:23] <SethPell> adam_: use mv <source> <target>
[12:23] <lansing> of got it to cd /tmp but wat do i type after that
[12:23] <avagant> well what exactly are you doing?
[12:24] <SethPell> adam_: that's also how you rename a file (you mv it to the same directory, but with a different name)
[12:24] <avagant> Are you unpacakging something?
[12:24] <gimmulf__> How do i kill all processes of a particular spftware, for example if i need to kill all SCREEN running
[12:24] <adam_> thanks
[12:24] <IcemanV9> bayzider: found the solution - comment out the entries in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which are related to wacom
[12:24] <lansing> iam tryin to get java back on my computer
[12:24] <Lane> Help.... Too many levels of symbolic links...what's it mean
[12:24] <grahamldlw> anyway im going bye all cheers for ur help, i think im a wasted case tho :(
[12:25] <bayzider> i know i just found it
[12:25] <bayzider> thanks =)
[12:25] <jordan> gimmulf__, killall
[12:25] <IcemanV9> :)
[12:25] <gimmulf__> thanks jordan figured it out
[12:25] <clearzen> can I specify what interface I want to use to ping with? if so what would the syntax be?
[12:25] <Murrlin> I can't find the heavy hardware configuration apps like I remember from suse, namely the one(s) for sound
[12:26] <Murrlin> not events, but the hardware and latency settings
[12:26] <bayzider> icemanV9: how do i do it though the temrinal im not loged on as root
[12:26] <BCMacbook> thanks anyway kitche, can anyone else help?
[12:26] <webben> if you have about 700MB RAM, is 1400 MB a good size for Swap?
[12:26] <sidny4> why won't my wireless connection ath0 show up in the network manager?
[12:26] <sidny4> the internet works fine
[12:26] <lansing> it keeps sayin cant find package
[12:26] <Parisi> webben, sude thats more then enough.
[12:26] <DragonKing27> you need drivers
[12:26] <DragonKing27> do you not?
[12:26] <IcemanV9> bayzider: you mean edit the xorg.conf? sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf &
[12:27] <Parisi> webben, thats actually too much.
[12:27] <bayzider> i need to deltet it
[12:27] <IcemanV9> bayzider: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf *
[12:27] <sanmarcos> when I return from hibernate, my USB mouse stops working any ideas?
[12:27] <malix0> This is very strange I ask in #suse channel and #gentoo channel for someone that help me testing the Firefox bug (note those distribution are not buggy) and I get help. Here no one is intereted
[12:27] <Flannel> IcemanV9, bayzider, gksudo
[12:28] <sidny4> I dunno, internet and everything work fine, when I got to system->admin->network it shows up there and I can configure it there
[12:28] <sooki> i just upgraded to edgy, and now my sound's decided to shut off, none of the settings appear to have changed, other than the expanded settings, any place to start looking for a fix?
[12:28] <Parisi> malix0, Different crowd
[12:28] <Flannel> malix0: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:28] <sidny4> but when I try to use the network manager for the panel, it only shows lo
[12:28] <crimsun> sooki: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[12:28] <IcemanV9> bayzider: you just comment them out - # each line that related to wacom, that's all.
[12:28] <SethPell> join /#ubuntu-offtopic
[12:28] <SethPell> heh.... wrong slash position >.<
[12:29] <IcemanV9> bayzider: then restart the X (ctrl + alt + backspace)
[12:29] <IcemanV9> Flannel: thks :)
[12:29] <bayzider> why dont i just backspace every thing in the file
[12:29] <malix0> Flannel: why #ubuntu-offtopic if is Firefox Ubuntu package that is buggy https://launchpad.net/bugs/33840
[12:29] <Flannel> malix0: -offtopic has more of the debugging type
[12:30] <lansing> wat do i do avagant
[12:30] <lansing> ah iam stuck
[12:30] <avagant> You didn't answer me, are you unpackaging something?
[12:30] <Parisi> About to try itunes under linux.
[12:30] <Parisi> Sweet :0
[12:30] <lansing> yah
[12:30] <sooki> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26368/
[12:30] <lansing> same thing as i did yesterday
[12:31] <lansing> i redid my sys
[12:31] <sooki> the nforce one i'm quite sure is the onboard sound card, i have a real one i'd been using just fine in dapper
[12:31] <avagant> oh noes.
[12:31] <gandolfthewizard> hi
[12:31] <avagant> did you go to that webpage again?
[12:31] <sooki> though all the settings were pointed at the nvidia one
[12:31] <lansing> ya
[12:31] <gandolfthewizard> hi
[12:31] <lansing> i got the bin and jre for breezy
[12:31] <avagant> the easiest thing would be to go to the ubuntuguide or ubuntuforums and follow things word for word.
[12:31] <crimsun> sooki: do you want your audigy ls/sblive 24-bit/7.1 to be the default?
[12:31] <avagant> did you download them or apt-get them?
[12:31] <sooki> yep
[12:32] <gandolfthewizard> looking for some help
[12:32] <crimsun> sooki: do you have ~/.asoundrc* or /etc/asound.conf ?
[12:32] <lansing> download
[12:32] <JFreakCapo> hello, can helpme anybody, my volumn control is functioning wrong, when up then down the volum and when down then up's
[12:32] <bayzider> ok i need to delte the file
[12:32] <lansing> i got them from that index thing
[12:32] <blin1> well hello
[12:32] <BonBonTheJon> how do I force 'mv -i' to answer no to all
[12:32] <JFreakCapo> is changed, please help me
[12:32] <gandolfthewizard> looking to get help with installing java
[12:32] <avagant> apt-get?
[12:32] <blin1> any one know of any good places to download programs for kubuntu?
[12:32] <bayzider> how do i delet a file that only root has accses to?
[12:33] <sanmarcos> there are a lot of packages which rdepend on ubuntu-desktop, is it safe to remove it (ub-desktop) ?
[12:33] <sooki> sure don't :P
[12:33] <crimsun> sooki: ``asoundconf set-default-card CA0106''
[12:33] <avagant> well if you used apt-get then you have them you just have to update them.
[12:33] <Flannel> blin1: the repositories
[12:33] <blin1> little games such as chuzzles or somethingt hat can run small windows programs?
[12:33] <sanmarcos> ie., I couldnt care about non-latin fonts
[12:33] <SethPell> A lot of games that I try with wine crash and leave my desktop sort of resized (it's the original resolution, it's just that I can only see a small bit of it at a time and I can scroll around by moving the mouse to the edges of my visible section). Can anyone tell me how to fix that without having to restart X?
[12:33] <Flannel> sanmarcos: yes, it's a meta package
[12:33] <BonBonTheJon> blin1: either the repositories, or kde-apps.org
[12:33] <crimsun> sooki: or if you're using gnome, System> Preferences> Sound> Set default card
[12:33] <avagant> crimsun: I had nothing but problems with that .asoundrc thing.
[12:33] <crimsun> avagant: a bit less vague, please?
[12:33] <blin1> where does one get wine?
[12:33] <avagant> crimsun: My sound mysteriously works for more than one thing at a time, so I'm not going to bother.
[12:33] <sanmarcos> blin1: at a winery
[12:33] <blin1> haha no for ubuntu lol
[12:34] <crimsun> avagant: it's not at all mysterious.
[12:34] <lansing> no i downloaded them from the ubuntu index
[12:34] <avagant> So apt-get install?
[12:34] <sooki> there we go, durr, i thought i tried that already
[12:34] <sooki> thanks :P
[12:34] <crimsun> sooki: np
[12:34] <avagant> That would be the index I think.
[12:34] <sanmarcos> Flannel: ok, I see no records for rdepends ubuntu-desktop, so its safe fto remove it
[12:34] <blin1> wine download?
[12:34] <avagant> crimsun: I mean, before it didn't work and I tinkered with the .asoundrc and all that jazz and nothing helped.
[12:34] <bayzider> so no one knows
[12:34] <avagant> crimsun: This time I just haven't done anything yet and sound works pretty well.
[12:34] <lansing> ya
[12:34] <DragonKing27> can u use KDE in dapper drake?
[12:35] <avagant> Ok, you have them installed then, lansing.
[12:35] <crimsun> avagant: you shouldn't be tinkering unless you absolutely need it for multichannel routing.
[12:35] <blin1> where do i download wine?
[12:35] <jordan> DragonKing27, Yes
[12:35] <DragonKing27> winehq.com
[12:35] <DragonKing27> or winehq.org
[12:35] <avagant> crimsun: Isn't that getting more than one object to play sound at once?
[12:35] <lansing> yup there in my tmp folder
[12:35] <DragonKing27> its winehq.com
[12:35] <avagant> lansing: Sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:35] <THX-1138> Hi crimsun.
[12:35] <crimsun> avagant: no, multichannel routing is, i.e., 5.1
[12:35] <jordan> DragonKing27, There is a seperate version called kubunutu, or you can apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <avagant> and configure to the one that's 1.5
[12:36] <crimsun> avagant: you're confusing it with pcm multiplexing
[12:36] <avagant> o rly?
[12:36] <DragonKing27> i had hoary hedgehog of kubuntu
[12:36] <avagant> crimsun: Can I do that? Haha
[12:36] <DragonKing27> 2 old though
[12:36] <JFreakCapo> can somebody help me please ??? my volume control is the other way, when up the volumn then listen down and when down, then listen up
[12:36] <ryan_> when i start up qtparted i get the error : No device found. Maby you're not using a root user? how do i run fix
[12:36] <THX-1138> jordan - grab the iso. You can but it takes a tiny bit of tweaking for kubuntu-desktop.
[12:36] <crimsun> avagant: do what, 5.1 routing? If your hardware supports it, it should already work.
[12:36] <sanmarcos> when I return from hibernate, my USB mouse stops working any ideas? I have to plug it in again
[12:36] <crimsun> hi THX-1138
[12:37] <avagant> I've got a via82xx ice board thing.
[12:37] <DragonKing27> Download from BitTorrent
[12:37] <avagant> I looked it says it has 2 channels.
[12:37] <ryan_> how do i run a program as root
[12:37] <DragonKing27> su root
[12:37] <Flannel> ryan_: sudo
[12:37] <avagant> But I meant the pcm thing.
[12:37] <THX-1138> !rootsudo
[12:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:37] <DragonKing27> or that
[12:37] <crimsun> avagant: which "via82xx ice board thing"?
[12:37] <bayzider> What is hte command to to delte a file
[12:37] <avagant> hahaha...hold on.
[12:37] <Flannel> bayzider: rm
[12:37] <lansing>   Selection    Alternative
[12:37] <lansing> -----------------------------------------------
[12:37] <lansing>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[12:37] <lansing> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[12:38] <avagant> Those are the only ones you have?
[12:38] <BCMacbook> can anyone tell me if the isolinux message that appears on install of 6.06 is normal?
[12:38] <lansing> yup
[12:38] <avagant> You didn't download it right then.
[12:38] <DragonKing27> its fine
[12:38] <avagant> Go to the ubuntuforums and look up desktop customization.
[12:38] <diminthedam> hello. anyone here installed drupal from synaptics pm before?
[12:39] <avagant> crimsun: VT82c689 AC97
[12:39] <bushblows> i just installed ubuntu server 5.10 from a netboot, i finished the base install and it rebooted then i logged in after rstart and get a command line what should i type to finish the install?
[12:39] <JFreakCapo> can anybody helpme with my volume control please ??
[12:39] <crimsun> avagant: it may (and probably does). Check your amixer output.
[12:39] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: more precisely?
[12:39] <avagant> crimsun: ICEnsemble ICE1232
[12:39] <DragonKing27> bushblows , shouldnt u have 6.06 LTS?
[12:39] <crimsun> avagant: yes.
[12:39] <gandolfthewizard> can someone help with installing the java plug in please
[12:40] <Flannel> !tell gandolfthewizard about java
[12:40] <Flannel> gandolfthewizard: there are instructions on that page
[12:40] <bushblows> thats what it might be, i think i am wrong, been awhile since i looked into ubuntu
[12:40] <bushblows> just downloaded the fir ubuntu-server i found
[12:40] <Flannel> bushblows: er, That's installed.
[12:40] <avagant> crimsun: Yes?
[12:40] <crimsun> avagant: yes it does.
[12:40] <DragonKing27> you should get it via torrent
[12:40] <gandolfthewizard> what page
[12:40] <Flannel> gandolfthewizard: check your pm from ubotu
[12:40] <lansing> wen i download them do i save them to disk or use archive maniger
[12:41] <avagant> Then why every now and again it tells me to make sure my soundcard is configured right or ayda yada?
[12:41] <bushblows> well i thought it would be more of a GUI
[12:41] <yellow>  hey guyz 
[12:41] <Flannel> bushblows: it's a server install, there is no GUI
[12:41] <avagant> lansing: You should be able to apt-get install them both.
[12:41] <yellow>  do i need to restart after installing gcc ? 
[12:41] <hYper> please help
[12:41] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, my volume control is wrong way, whe i up the volume then the speakers listen down, when i down the volume then listen more is grong way
[12:41] <bayzider> Flannel : i cded to the folder of the file i wanted to delete and typed in sudo rm xorg.conf and it didnt delte the file
[12:41] <DragonKing27> yea , i know
[12:41] <hYper> i'm desperate
[12:41] <Flannel> yellow: no.  And quit it with the arrows
[12:41] <Mercutio150> can someone help me with converting avi to mpeg?
[12:41] <hYper> ati control panel won't start
[12:41] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, can you help me ??
[12:41] <diminthedam> hi. anyone here used installed drupal before?
[12:41] <yellow> thanks Flannel
[12:41] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: are you referring to a specific mixer applet, or does this persist across all mixer applets?
[12:41] <lansing> k how do i do that
[12:41] <Flannel> bayzider: that's because you probably don't have permissions to.  why are you deleting your xorg?
[12:42] <bayzider> i need to for photoshop to work
[12:42] <DragonKing27> bushblows, go get 6.06 of server Ubuntu
[12:42] <DragonKing27> that is the latest
[12:42] <bushblows> ok thanks
[12:42] <avagant> ok hold on, lansing i gotta find that page again.
[12:42] <hYper> gl works...xgears work...aticonfig works...
[12:42] <lansing> k
[12:42] <JFreakCapo> is in the little speaker just left the date and time
[12:42] <Flannel> bushblows: if you want to add a gui, you can apt-get some wM, like fluxbox or something lightweight, or grab the entire ubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <hYper> but control panel won't start
[12:42] <avagant> crimsun: Amixer doesn't really tell me anything that I can distinquish.
[12:42] <ataq> hey does anyone know what I can use to convert movies to 3gp?
[12:42] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, in the little speaker that set the volume
[12:42] <DragonKing27> the command is apt-get ubuntu-desktop?
[12:43] <Jeruvy> sudo apt-get...
[12:43] <crimsun> avagant: then pastebin it.
[12:43] <Flannel> DragonKing27: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:43] <avagant> mmk.
[12:43] <DragonKing27> thx
[12:43] <bayzider> Flannel: i need to delete it for photoshop to work
[12:43] <Flannel> DragonKing27: that'll install gnome though, you previously had KDE
[12:43] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: does it also occur with the command line tool alsamixer?
[12:43] <Flannel> bayzider: er... what?  that doesn't sound right.
[12:43] <bushblows> so would just running ubuntu desktop work better as a server
[12:43] <avagant> lansing: GO here...if you are starting over again http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792
[12:43] <avagant> lansing: But I'd advice you, to read up on what you are doing first.
[12:43] <Flannel> bushblows: right.  Theres nothing wrong with running servers on a desktop.
[12:43] <DragonKing27> nope
[12:44] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, i i left the pointer mouse it say Master: 19% but graphicly is more to the plus sign (wrong way...)
[12:44] <bayzider> FLannel: it is it like litteraly states my error and tells me how to fix it
[12:44] <lansing> ok
[12:44] <Flannel> bayzider: How are you installing photoshop exactly?
[12:44] <bayzider> thorugh wine
[12:44] <DragonKing27> wine rocks!
[12:44] <bushblows> ok thank you Flannel
[12:44] <ubuntu__> if i mounted my files in the sesion of my live cd , the next time , when i started my livecd session , my files will be mounted?
[12:44] <avagant> !pastebin
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:44] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: I'm afraid we have a language barrier. Are you saying that the '+' (increasing volume) actually lowers it?
[12:44] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, with the command line tool alsamixer works fine
[12:45] <Flannel> bushblows: I also suggest grabbing the alternate ISO, since if youre installing, it's faster
[12:45] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, is some please where can i put a screenshot ??
[12:45] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: excellent. Have you checked the Volume Control preferences? (You're now into GNOME territory; I don't deal with GNOME, only ALSA).
[12:45] <avagant> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26371/
[12:45] <ubuntu__> if i mounted my files in the sesion of my live cd , the next time , when i started my livecd session , my files will be mounted?
[12:45] <DragonKing27> GNOME? i hate gnome
[12:45] <matgates> My ipw2100 card doesn't function in edgy.  Well, I can see my access point using iwlist, but it doesn't seem able to transfer data to it.   Any ideas how to fix it?
[12:45] <DragonKing27> KDE is better
[12:46] <Flannel> DragonKing27: so, you want kubuntu-desktop
[12:46] <avagant> crimsun: If you are the alsa guide where have you been all my life?
[12:46] <avagant> haha
[12:46] <DragonKing27> yes
[12:46] <DragonKing27> ah , see im a newbie
[12:46] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, what have i check in the preferences ?
[12:46] <bayzider> Flannel: so whats the command im loooking for
[12:46] <Flannel> DragonKing27: kubuntu is what you want, and there is a kubuntu 6.06 (dapper drake)
[12:46] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: that I can't tell you; I'm not familiar w/ GNOME
[12:47] <Flannel> bayzider: I have no idea.  deleting your xorg sounds like bad advice though.
[12:47] <oidia> :P
[12:47] <crimsun> avagant: which physical output jacks does your sound device have?
[12:47] <avagant> crimsun: You mean like mic, ect, ect?
[12:47] <clearzen> I have a ssh server set up with two ethernet interfaces active. How would I route all outside traffic through a specific interface?
[12:47] <crimsun> avagant: /output/ , yes.
[12:47] <avagant> crimsun: I think mic, headphones and speakers.
[12:47] <avagant> I haven't checked in a while.
[12:48] <avagant> I don't have speakers, I'm using headphones.
[12:48] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, in the alsa miexer, first is the Master, then more to the right is PCM, the master is set to 23, but PCM is set to 74 !!! is it normal ??
[12:48] <ryan_> whats the name of the file browser
[12:48] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: 'normal', perhaps. It's certainly not /wrong/.
[12:48] <ryan_> the defalt in gnome
[12:48] <Flannel> ryan_: nautilus you mean?
[12:48] <avagant> My sound WORKS but it gives me all that whole "make sure your soundcard is configured right" biz when I run firefox and xmms and anything else with sound.
[12:49] <crimsun> avagant: your hardware is incapable of pcm multiplexing; that's why dmix and dsnoop are used
[12:49] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, how is your's ?? is PCM more than Master ??
[12:49] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: different hardware have different control elements
[12:49] <clearzen> can anyone help?
[12:49] <avagant> crimsun: Hmm.
[12:49] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, ahh
[12:49] <ryan_> thanks Flannel
[12:49] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: e.g., the card I use only has 'PCM' and 'Capture'
[12:49] <avagant> crimsun: How do I use those without screwing anything up?
[12:49] <crimsun> avagant: you're already using them.
[12:49] <DragonKing27> is my irc on the fritz?
[12:49] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, what is PCM ??
[12:50] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: pulse code modulation
[12:50] <avagant> So in otherwords the "using more than one thing with sound" is pretty not going to happen.
[12:50] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, in comun language ?? (i'm newbie)
[12:50] <avagant> Even though I have been lately.
[12:50] <jaypim> is there an application that plays .mov files ?
[12:50] <crimsun> avagant: didn't you just say it works?
[12:50] <avagant> It does, but every now and again it gives me that error message.
[12:50] <DragonKing27> try quicktime using wine
[12:50] <avagant> And I have to restart everything that uses sound.
[12:51] <jaypim> DragonKing27: no native linux app for doing that ?
[12:51] <avagant> Yesterday for a brief time I had gaim noises, firefox with youtube and music.
[12:51] <DragonKing27> well
[12:51] <DragonKing27> u are using 6.06
[12:51] <crimsun> JFreakCapo: it's an encoding method for sound signals
[12:51] <avagant> And then I closed out firefox and restarted and bam.
[12:51] <DragonKing27> ?
[12:51] <avagant> I wish I could play RO on linux without using Wine.
[12:51] <jordan> jaypim, mplayer with win32 codecs works I believe.
[12:52] <JFreakCapo> crimsun, thks anyway
[12:52] <DragonKing27> it does
[12:52] <sooki> another edgy question, how do i get rid of these icky desktop icons in gnome? the trash and computer ones aren't in the Desktop/ folder
[12:52] <jaypim> jordan: ok, thanks. I'll try that
[12:52] <lansing> member i got breezy dapper wont work ?
[12:52] <ubuntu__> i got a problem , i am in my livecd session , and i cant listening to music becouse i dont have the codecs, if i install the codecs the next time they will be install or not
[12:52] <crimsun> avagant: youtube uses Flash last I checked, which means you have to go through the esd or aoss hackaround
[12:52] <avagant> crimsun: I did the firefox aoss thing.
[12:52] <DragonKing27> breezy dapper?
[12:52] <avagant> crimsun: Is there something else I need to do?
[12:53] <gif> My problem: I installed Ubuntu from the alternative cd, it istalled fine, but when gnome is loading, my screen goes blank. please help
[12:53] <crimsun> avagant: as long as all your audio apps use alsa natively (not oss emulation), then you're fine
[12:53] <DragonKing27> lansing: the latest version is 6.06 Dapper Drake
[12:53] <avagant> How do I know if it does that? Haha.
[12:54] <lansing> yes i know i dont have that i got breezy
[12:54] <avagant> crimsun: Sorry for all the Q's I'm just frustrated with the sound issue.
[12:54] <gif> anyone?
[12:54] <crimsun> avagant: if they're native alsa apps, they don't attempt to access /dev/{dsp,audio,mixer}*
[12:54] <avagant> native meaning they were made for using alsa?
[12:55] <avagant> or they are suppose to use alsa.
[12:55] <crimsun> avagant: programmed to use the alsa api, yes.
[12:55] <avagant> If I screwed around with things more I could get things to work they use to, but I don't wanna mess around with anything else.
[12:55] <crimsun> avagant: then don't.
[12:55] <avagant> I just want some youtube and xmms and I'll be fine xD
[12:56] <dbernar1> metube
[12:56] <crimsun> avagant: make sure xmms is configured to use the alsa 'default' (not 'hw:0,0') output
[12:56] <avagant> I should look into a newer computer then.
[12:56] <avagant> Sure is~!
[12:57] <cpk2> you know whats funy, muting master sound and pcm in alsamixer seem to have no affect on my sound output
[12:57] <avagant> But should I kill esd? The last time I did it killed ALL sound even though I have everything set up with alsa.
[12:57] <crimsun> cpk2: because your hardware is short-bus special
[12:57] <avagant> If I had a better soundcard, computer I'm sure I wouldn't have had all of these problems.
[12:58] <avagant> Wouldn't have had to reinstall dapper 6 times.
[12:58] <avagant> what about gaim, is it configured for alsa or anyhting else?
[12:58] <avagant> I hate using gaim, but I guess it's all I can use.
[12:59] <avagant> I need to get some less polished looking themes.
[12:59] <crimsun> gaim uses libao, which is configured for alsa by default.
[12:59] <avagant> ahhhh
[12:59] <avagant> do i have that? let me check.
[12:59] <Malachi> How can I view [and possibly type]  Japanese characters on Ubuntu?
[12:59] <crimsun> [unless you modified /etc/libao.conf or ~/.libao before dist-upgrading, in which case your changes are preserved] 
[12:59] <avagant> I haven't dist-upgraded I don't know if I will.
[01:00] <avagant> Edgy seems to buggy right now.
[01:00] <cpk2> crimsun: well what classes should i take my hardware too?
[01:00] <THX-1138> !scim
[01:00] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[01:00] <Malachi> Thanks.
[01:00] <crimsun> cpk2: the trash.
[01:00] <avagant> crimsun: Thanks for clearing that up for me.
[01:01] <goofy> how do i set my drives to mount when i boot up my computer
[01:01] <cpk2> crimsun: =O but I could never do that to dear asus!
[01:01] <slop> !mp3
[01:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:01] <crimsun> cpk2: then you have far deeper abandonment issues!
[01:02] <cpk2> haha
[01:02] <cpk2> i am thinking that kmix probably ignores alsamixer somehow actually =P
[01:02] <avagant> Well, I guess like you said if it ain't broke don't fix it.
[01:03] <adam_> !restricted
[01:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:03] <avagant> !pastebin
[01:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:05] <p_masho> is there a command line version of synaptic (eg like yast in SUSE) ? need to install teh imagemagick extension on remote server at office...
[01:05] <LjL> !apt-get
[01:05] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:06] <LjL> p_masho: ^. or
[01:06] <LjL> !aptitude
[01:06] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[01:06] <Vornotron> aptitude is my CLI apt frontend of choice.
[01:06] <yellow>  hey 
[01:06] <[BreliC] > i have a question about OpenOffice in Dapper.. is it possible an update broke the AutoCorrect feature?
[01:07] <aFx> !ubotu
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[01:07] <[BreliC] > all of a sudden, it is not working on both my laptop and desktop (the correct while you type feature)
[01:07] <p_masho> LjL: can I do a "search" on apt-get ?
[01:07] <Flannel> p_masho: apt-cache search [stuff] 
[01:07] <mcphail> p_masho: apt-cache search
[01:07] <LjL> p_masho: no, use "apt-cache search blah" for that. aptitude otoh can search directly
[01:08] <AvatarX> Yeah...
[01:08] <clearzen> could someone please help me with a networking problem?
[01:08] <LjL> !anyone
[01:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:09] <clearzen> I have 2 NIC cards on a server and I want one card used for internal traffic and one card used for outside traffic. How can I set this up??
[01:09] <bushblows> Could i just install ubuntu desktop from server or should i just redo the netboot
[01:10] <Flannel> bushblows: you can.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <goofy> i have a hdd that when i monut i cannot see whats on the drive i just get a empty folder and its 80gb on the drive are being used out of 111gb
[01:10] <Flannel> bushblows: and, once it's installed, you'll want to switch to a normal desktop kernel, isntead of the -server branch
[01:10] <bushblows> thank you so much for all your help Flannel.
[01:10] <cpk2> clearzen: you using dhcpd?
[01:10] <clearzen> no they are static ips
[01:10] <bushblows> ok thanks Flannel any guides on how to do that
[01:10] <bushblows> by any chance
[01:10] <LjL> clearzen: well, the file you need to look at is /etc/network/interfaces
[01:11] <Flannel> bushblows: just install linux-image-386, and then once that's installed, remove the -server one
[01:11] <clearzen> how do i need to edit that file?
[01:11] <bushblows> ok sweet thanks
[01:12] <LjL> clearzen: i think it all boils down to giving the internal interface an address and netmask for the internal network, and the external interface the appropriate external address -- and set the external interface as default gateway for anything that's not directed to the internal network
[01:12] <Answer> Hello, how can I launch a script on startup not as root but as a regular user?
[01:13] <ArrenLex> Answer: you could set Gnome to boot it when Gnome starts...
[01:13] <ArrenLex> boot -> run
[01:13] <salami> sup?
[01:13] <Answer> ArrenLex, I am not running x or gdm
[01:13] <cpk2> clearzen: do you want the clients to be able to have access to outside traffic?
[01:13] <clearzen> LjL: so what you are saying is that I should assign the static ip assgined by my isp to the interface handling the outside traffic>
[01:13] <LjL> clearzen: i'll paste my own server's /etc/network/interfaces -- however, in my case, i've got 4 different cards, each dedicated to connecting to another machine. so it's a bit different
[01:14] <goofy> i cant view the dirves on my hdd after mount theres 80gb of file and i would realy hate to loose them....and ideas would help
[01:14] <LjL> clearzen: yup
[01:14] <clearzen> cpk2: yes I do. I just want a reserved interface for the internal networks
[01:14] <LjL> clearzen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26374/ <- you can see that my external uses DHCP though
[01:14] <cpk2> clearzen: hopefully you know at least a little about iptables =P
[01:14] <goofy> i cant view the files on my hdd after mount theres 80gb of file and i would realy hate to loose them....and ideas would help
[01:14] <clearzen> cpk2 I do
[01:15] <SurfnKid> can someone tell me why i get 2 processes running when i only asked to run one?
[01:15] <LjL> clearzen: also, i used this trick of doing "route add 192.168.0.2 dev eth1" commands ad-hoc for each interface... which is ok as long as only one other machine is connected to that interface
[01:15] <Flannel> Answer: so, couldn't you just put it in your bashrc?
[01:15] <SurfnKid> i set one in rc.local
[01:15] <Answer> Flannel, it is in my .bashrc but it doesn't seem to do anything.  When I type the command from the command line it works
[01:15] <[BreliC] > Has anyone had problem with OpenOffice in Dapper with the AutoCorrect/AutoFormat since a recent update?
[01:16] <LjL> clearzen: well, if you also want the other machine to access the internet through yours, you also need to set up NAT or something.
[01:16] <SurfnKid> but when i run ps -auxw | grep i8kmon  I get 2 same running ones
[01:16] <dsnyders> HI all!  Where do you set up global command aliases?
[01:16] <clearzen> thank you for your response LjL. You've given me the information I need
[01:16] <clearzen> I do have nat setup
[01:16] <clearzen> and IPcop :)
[01:16] <SurfnKid> can anyone help me?
[01:17] <Vornotron> !ask
[01:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:17] <SurfnKid> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I did
[01:17] <w30> goofy, what kind of file system is on hdd?
[01:17] <SurfnKid> hehe
[01:18] <mcphail> dsnyders: "global" as in for all users?
[01:18] <SurfnKid> Vornotron, do you know why I get 2 same processes running?
[01:18] <Vornotron> I often run a single command and get dozens of processes.
[01:18] <Subhuman> SurfnKid, umm ,you sure one process isnt the grep command
[01:18] <dsnyders> mcphail, yes.  I miss my ll (alias for ls -l)
[01:18] <SurfnKid> Subhuman, its actually 3, the grep, and 2 more
[01:18] <Flannel> dsnyders: you can add that
[01:18] <Subhuman> hm
[01:18] <kitche> SurfnKid the one process might be a child of the other one
[01:19] <goofy> ext3
[01:19] <a8514> Hi
[01:19] <mcphail> dsnyders: you can put your aliases in bashrc
[01:19] <Flannel> dsnyders: actually, the aliases are already in your .bashrc, you just need to uncomment them
[01:19] <SurfnKid> i get 3 processes, 1 grep and 2 exact ones.. except one is root and another is my user....  thats the only diff.
[01:19] <goofy> w30: ext3
[01:19] <clearzen> LjL i have one question about your config file. Is the pointtopoint command for ad-hoc?
[01:19] <Flannel> Answer: and you have a .bash_profile loading your .bashrc, right?
[01:19] <cafuego> SurfnKid: sshd?
[01:19] <LjL> clearzen: yes, i don't think you need it.
[01:20] <bsnider> in gnome, where are the rules that govern what happens when a CD is added to the CDROM?
[01:20] <SurfnKid> cafuego, you mean is that the process, no its i8kmon
[01:20] <clearzen> That is what I thought
[01:20] <cafuego> SurfnKid: probably a thread (they show up as seperate processes)
[01:20] <jmitchj> can someone help me with this message...Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[01:20] <Answer> Flannel, the line right before my command sets the PATH so I think .bashrc is executed
[01:21] <LjL> clearzen: hm, do "man interfaces", it makes an example that looks close to what you want
[01:21] <diminthedam> how do i customise apache to see my drupal dbase?
[01:21] <w30> goofy, Is it owned by a different user than you? Like from a different distribution? If it is mayber ownership and permissions are wrong. Try sudo ls instead of just ls.
[01:21] <SurfnKid> http://pastebin.ca/198394
[01:21] <dsnyders> Flannel, Is there a global .bashrc?  One that works for all users?
[01:22] <mcphail> dsnyders: /etc/bash.bashrc
[01:22] <Flannel> Answer: right, the . ~/.bashrc line?
[01:22] <clearzen> LjL:I'm new to setting this type of thing up so I really appricate the help. I don't have anyone to ask for info in my area.
[01:22] <Answer> Flannel, yeah /home/username/.bashrc
[01:22] <gan|y|med> hi @ all
[01:22] <gan|y|med>  i have trouble playing wmv hd files and normal asf files (w32 codecs are installed), saying: "the file is encrypted" (DRM?) any ideas how to solve this problem?
[01:22] <yellow> gan|y|med:  get kaffeine
[01:23] <yellow> oops
[01:23] <yellow> i didn't see the DRM
[01:23] <Answer> Flannel, the .bash_profile has if exists ~/.bashrc etc....
[01:23] <SurfnKid> kitche, cafuego the only thing I do is remove the i8kmon line from /etc/rc.local  and if i reboot or restart the system, it will not load anything in memory
[01:23] <Flannel> Answer: right, then it's being run.  Don't know
[01:23] <Answer> Flannel, I have it piped to a log file and i see nothing :/
[01:24] <Answer> Flannel, can't I run it as a user from init.d
[01:24] <SurfnKid> kitche, cafuego but if i leave the command, itll run it twice..  This wasnt happening a few weeks ago, I have no idea why its running both
[01:24] <SurfnKid> actually
[01:24] <SurfnKid> When I log into my session does rc.local run automatically??
[01:24] <kitche> SurfnKid: it gets run automatically on boot
[01:25] <kitche> SurfnKid: but what does i8kmon do exactly sicne it's probably just a child process of the one ran by root
[01:25] <SurfnKid> oh then..  then if i have it running in sessions again will it run twice ?
[01:25] <kitche> SurfnKid: yes it will run as the user while the other one is still ran by root
[01:26] <coldboot> How do you get to have both eclipse and mozilla-firefox co-exist on the same system if they both need different versions of libnspr4?
[01:26] <SurfnKid> kitche, its a fan utility for my laptop, but when both processes are running, the installation site says it will interfere with the fan control and cause on off sporadic fan control and thus a problem
[01:26] <SurfnKid> ahhh
[01:26] <malix0> some one else that would test  this http://www.massimofidanza.it/firefox/ thanks
[01:26] <SurfnKid> ok so the rc.local will run automatically, while the one in sessioins run as user?
[01:26] <kitche> SurfnKid: yep
[01:26] <SurfnKid> then i have to remove the run line
[01:26] <SurfnKid> thats the problem
[01:27] <|thunder> anyone know where Id find the glibc libs ? I need to sym link them for kylix
[01:27] <nikolai> is there an update for flash?
[01:27] <SurfnKid> kitche, i wasnt sure how that worked but i just thought of the sessions thing
[01:27] <LjL> clearzen, well, to be honest i set this up long ago, so i don't quite remember everything there is to it. if i were able to tell you "type this and it'll work", i would. the example on the man page should nearly do though... well, scrap the "work" stuff that you probably don't need, and make the dhcp of eth1 (or what-it-is in your case) a static address instead.
[01:28] <n3kl> Oi!
[01:28] <nikolai> is there anything for flash player 9?
[01:28] <|thunder> i hear there is a flash 9 beta available
[01:28] <nikolai> do you know where?
[01:29] <Flannel> nikolai: Flash 9 for linux isn't out yet
[01:29] <LjL> clearzen: then i still *think* that for everything to work properly, you also need a "route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmark 255.255.255.0 dev eth0" (assuming eth0 is the internal, and 192.168.0.0 is the right network) -- which you can add in /etc/network/interfaces with an "up" command, like i did in my case
[01:29] <nikolai> is there anyway that i can play flash player 9?
[01:29] <n3kl> So, I am running debian, but I wanted to see if anyone in here has had similar issues.  I am trying to get xorg to work with evdev, but even after I modprbe the evdev driver and start X, my logs are still telling me that xorg could not load the evdev driver.  Has anyone in here seen that before?
[01:30] <avagant> gaim should really have an away message minimize thing.
[01:30] <LjL> clearzen: then if the internet works, you're set. otherwise you probably also need, for the external interface (assume eth1) "route add default gateway dev eth1"
[01:30] <THX-1138> |thunder, there is an ugly hack available for firefox. just edit the flash revision number in firefox.
[01:31] <puff> Okay, so while I am waiting for the ubuntu i386 CD image to download, is there any other route to take or is reinstalling while being careful at the prompts to preserve my old user info still the best bet?
[01:31] <nikolai> how do i do this THX-1138
[01:31] <nikolai> do you know a help file?
[01:31] <kitche> puff: backup if you can
[01:31] <coldboot> Does anyone know how to install "mozilla-browser" so that you can get libswt3, azureus and eclipse all working, while co-existing with firefox?
[01:31] <puff> It appears that my network configs are entirely gone....
[01:31] <cpk2> puff: reinstalling while preserving user info?
[01:32] <coldboot> Right now mozilla-browser and firefox need different versions of libnspr4
[01:32] <kitche> coldboot: umm well mozilla doesn't even exist anymore
[01:32] <coldboot> kitche: Huh?
[01:32] <kitche> coldboot: at least their suite doesn't
[01:33] <coldboot> kitche: You mean they changed the name, like that Debian thing mentioned on Slashdot?
[01:33] <SupermanJnr> I have a Dell Inspiron which says there is not bootable disk when installed with Ubuntu 6.06.  If you boot with the Live CD and choose boot from the hard disk, it works fine.  What is the problem and why haven't I seen it on any other machines I have setup Ubuntu on?
[01:33] <ClayG> has anyone experienced apt-get hang after fetching?
[01:33] <bawnpa> anyone know how to run evolution message filters on a folder? (like my trash?)
[01:33] <ClayG> I amtrying to update install, anything and it keeps hanging
[01:33] <coldboot> kitche: The package "mozilla-browser" still exists, and libswt3.1-gtk-java still depends on it
[01:33] <macluvjay> hello all
[01:33] <lansing> i cant apt-get install java  any advice
[01:34] <macluvjay> is there an ubuntu channel for PPC users?
[01:34] <willys_fueguino> hi!! I have a problem; I tryied fvwm-crystal and it changed my taskbar and time lenguajes! How can I fix it??
[01:34] <n3kl> Hi
[01:34] <kitche> coldboot: well look up seamonkey since it is just mozilla-browser since mozilla-browser no longer exists Mozilla stopped making it
[01:34] <cpk2> lansing: apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[01:34] <n3kl> So, I am running debian, but I wanted to see if anyone in here has had similar issues.  I am trying to get xorg to work with evdev, but even after I modprbe the evdev driver and start X, my logs are still telling me that xorg could not load the evdev driver.  Has anyone in here seen that before?
[01:34] <coldboot> kitche: does seamonkey have a package?
[01:35] <bawnpa> SupermanJnr, it sounds like your laptop maybe has a "virus protection" feature enabled in the bios, which can prevent the boot sector of the hard drive from being written to.  Ubuntu install may not have been able to install its boot loader because of such a feature
[01:35] <kitche> coldboot it might in fact Im pretty sure there is a package for it
[01:35] <coldboot> kitche: The only thing with "monkey" in apt-cache is spidermonkey
[01:35] <SupermanJnr> Thanks bawnpa, I will look for that in a moment.  Could it be anything else?
[01:35] <wickedpuppy> guys , i just got email from a friend saying ubuntu comes with some non-free software ... can anyone think of any such software ??
[01:36] <viator> haha firefox
[01:36] <bawnpa> SupermanJnr it could be it just failed to install it correctly, you can try installing grub again from inside ubuntu after verifying that option is off (if you have one)
[01:36] <SurfnKid> kitche, fixed it, now only one is running (plus the grep one)
[01:36] <SurfnKid> kitche, thanks
[01:36] <kitche> coldboot: guess it's not in dapper repos yet
[01:36] <wickedpuppy> definitely not firefox ... must come by default ...
[01:36] <bawnpa> grub being the boot loader
[01:36] <lansing> ivegot brezzy not dapper
[01:37] <mayckol> Sombody knows how can i change de resolution of tty1 or another tty
[01:37] <SupermanJnr> thanks mate
[01:37] <viator> wicked maybe ask will ubuntu come with iceweasel in the future?
[01:37] <SupermanJnr> i'm out
[01:37] <viator> hehe
[01:37] <puff> cpk2: I dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy, worked fine.  Changed the source.lists to dapper, dist-upgraded, it eventually chugged away but somewhere 850 packages in died with "Errors were encountered while processing:        /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb"
[01:37] <willys_fueguino> hi!! I have a problem; I tryied fvwm-crystal and it changed my taskbar and time lenguajes! How can I fix it??
[01:37] <cpk2> puff: well it should resume from where it failed =P
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> viator, possible ... hmms.. so you can't think either huh ?
[01:38] <puff> cpk2: Re-ran dist-upgrade a couple of times, somewhere in that process the laptop rebooted and now eth1 and eth0 are missing.
[01:38] <viator> maybe java
[01:38] <coldboot> kitche: Seems like that's the case
[01:38] <puff> I would really like to a) preserve my data, b) get my machine working again.
[01:38] <blin1> hello i have a pretty tuff question if any body is willing to help please let me know
[01:38] <viator> i didnt bother to llok and see what repos its in
[01:39] <IcemanV9> viator: java is not installed by default
[01:39] <cpk2> puff: oh, well i suppose that could be a bit of a problem =)
[01:39] <puff> cpk2 So what do you recommend?
[01:39] <kitche> wickedpuppy: wonder if he's thinking of gnujava
[01:39] <blin1> i have a slaved harddrive with all my files on it but it said i do not have permission to acsess
[01:39] <blin1> any help?
[01:39] <mayckol> Sombody knows how can i change de resolution of tty1 or another tty
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> gnujava is free and opensource ... no ? why is it gnu then ?
[01:40] <viator> thats true i doesnt
[01:40] <IcemanV9> wickedpuppy: why don't you ask your friend what is non-free software by default
[01:40] <_aasics_> blin1, have you tried using a LiveCD to see if you can still access it?
[01:40] <kitche> wickedpuppy: well I m thinking of blackdown I think since that's sorta non-free
[01:40] <FunnyLookinHat> why bother using gnujava when sun's java is a better (and technically official) implementation
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> IcemanV9, i intend to ... but its always nice to have the facts before talking about such things
[01:40] <IcemanV9> it'll take guesswork out of the way immediately :)
[01:41] <w30> mayckol, in /boot/grub/menu.1st I placed this boot option after the other ones: "vga=791" without the quotes. That makes all ttys 1024x768 after a reboot. I don't know how to change just one tty.
[01:41] <wickedpuppy> its better to be wrong here than look like never heard of google
[01:41] <viator> willys how about system>administration>time and date
[01:41] <puff> So I'm kind of stu ck at this point, really need some help.
[01:41] <w30> mayckol, maybe someone else does?
[01:41] <mayckol> Thanks
[01:42] <cjfp> which package contains development .info files?
[01:42] <ClayG> has anyone experienced apt-get hang after fetching?
[01:42] <cjfp> info autoconf does not work for me
[01:42] <mayckol> But that would affect my screen resolution?
[01:42] <blin1> hello
[01:42] <blin1> wtf does it give me blin1 as a freeking name
[01:42] <lansing> where do i go to get java and once i get it where do i save it to
[01:43] <kitche> blin1: /nick <nick
[01:43] <IcemanV9> !java > lansing
[01:43] <blin1> ahh
[01:43] <viator> willys see also system>administration>language support
[01:43] <lansing> thanx ice
[01:43] <cjfp> alternatively, what's the name of the other #ubuntu channel for questions like this?
[01:44] <Chri1> it still abrivates lol
[01:44] <willys_fueguino> hi!! I have a problem; I tryied fvwm-crystal and it changed my taskbar and time lenguajes! How can I fix it??
[01:44] <blindvirus> theere
[01:44] <blindvirus> lol
[01:44] <blindvirus> ok now one mroe question
[01:44] <ClayG> man apt-get is all fucked up now
[01:44] <ArrenLex> !language
[01:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:44] <ClayG> sorry, it's just getting to me
[01:44] <avagant> Ok this theme is worse than the default gnome, haha.
[01:44] <w30> mayckol, yes, on your tty1 thru tty6 and tty8. It won't affect your GUI.
[01:44] <blindvirus> i have a slaved hard drive with a windows file format ntfs and i would liek to acses this ahrd drive for the music and pictures could any body tlel me why it is telling when i go to administration then drives that i do not ahve permission to see this drive or open its contents
[01:45] <blindvirus> or point me in the direction of a read me of some sort
[01:45] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: is it in your fstab?
[01:45] <blindvirus> fstab?
[01:45] <blindvirus> i can see the drive its under temp in my filesyste
[01:45] <coldboot> Where is the version of mozilla that the DrazziB guy is talking about in this last post: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/6039 ?
[01:45] <IcemanV9> ClayG: i am guessing here .. maybe you would like to update once again to make sure, then install <whatever you want to install>
[01:46] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: what does your /etc/fstab look like? Does it have an entry for that filesystem?
[01:46] <ClayG> i tried that, it's hung
[01:46] <viator> willys_fueguino system>administration>time and date  system>administration>language support
[01:46] <kitche> coldboot: it's should be in the repos it even says the package name for it
[01:46] <blindvirus> areenlex i found etc but no fstab
[01:47] <kitche> blindvirus: /etc/fstab is a file
[01:47] <coldboot> I did apt-get update with dapper, and the latest version in there is: 2:1.7.6-1ubuntu2
[01:47] <IcemanV9> ClayG: hung? try different archive server
[01:47] <coldboot> IcemanV9: Oh wait, it's one of the older ones...
[01:47] <blindvirus> ya it has hda1, hda5, hdb
[01:47] <blindvirus> im guessing its hard drive b
[01:47] <coldboot> IcemanV9: I have: 2:1.7.12-1.1ubuntu2 and 2:1.7.13-0ubuntu05.04.2
[01:48] <willys_fueguino> viator, in system>administration It tries to download lots of files of the languaje that I had...
[01:48] <blindvirus> it shows up in the drive lsit also
[01:48] <ClayG> IcemanV9, can you shoot me a copy of your sources.list?
[01:48] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: paste the line which is for that parition.
[01:48] <viator> all i can say is try it
[01:48] <avagant> Seriously people, wtf.
[01:48] <ArrenLex> partition -> drive
[01:48] <kitche> avagant?
[01:48] <avagant> What's with the ugly themes people make here.
[01:48] <viator> i dont switch languages so im giving what i thought might work
[01:49] <blindvirus> arrenlex private messagE?
[01:49] <IcemanV9> !easysource > ClayG
[01:49] <Jbirk> I am running xgl yet my resolution is all messed up
[01:49] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: just paste it. It's one line.
[01:49] <Jbirk> what went wrong?
[01:49] <blindvirus> i dont knwo what it is lol
[01:49] <coldboot> Can anyone get eclipse and mozilla-firefox installed on the same instance of dapper?
[01:49] <IcemanV9> ClayG: it'll do the trick for ya :)
[01:49] <kitche> avagant: where on the forums?
[01:49] <ClayG> i tried that before
[01:49] <avagant> No haha.
[01:49] <ClayG> there were a few repos that didn't wortk
[01:49] <viator> in ubuntu the package is firefox i thought
[01:49] <avagant> gnome-look.org
[01:49] <boris55> just booted up ubuntu live cd.  yeehaw...
[01:49] <ClayG> ill grab one or try in offtopic
[01:50] <avagant> Some of these are like the ugs.
[01:50] <blindvirus> areenlex: paste waht where lol
[01:50] <mayckol> Thanks and goodbye
[01:50] <kitche> avagant: umm because it's gnome and a lot of them are older
[01:50] <IcemanV9> ClayG: paste your source.list in pastebin
[01:50] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: paste the line from your /etc/fstab for the slave drive (I'm assuming hdb)
[01:50] <avagant> I don't think I've found one yet that's even worth downloading.
[01:50] <blindvirus> paste it in the area i would write a path?
[01:50] <Wiseguy> hey guys, i have an external HDD that mounts fine to /media/usbdisk and i made a symbolic link from /media/usbdisk to /home/wiseguy/HDD so when i sftp to my box i have an easy link to my hdd's contents, but for some reason i can send anything to the drive... i tried to chmod 755 it, but it didnt work
[01:51] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: paste it HERE. To me.
[01:51] <Wiseguy> *cant send anything
[01:51] <blindvirus> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:51] <blindvirus> #
[01:51] <blindvirus> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[01:51] <blindvirus> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[01:51] <blindvirus> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:51] <blindvirus> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:51] <blindvirus> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:51] <blindvirus> there ahve it all
[01:51] <ArrenLex> Augh.
[01:51] <ArrenLex> !paste
[01:51] <blindvirus> lol
[01:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:51] <kitche> good job ArrebKex
[01:51] <kitche> ArrenLex*
[01:51] <Volstrup> Wiseguy: do you have the same problem if you access the mount point directly?
[01:51] <blindvirus> !paste
[01:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:51] <kitche> Wiseguy: well if it's vfat it doesn't hold permissions
[01:52] <Wiseguy> kitche, its ntfs
[01:52] <ClayG> IcemanV9, could you just send me yours for the sake or speed?
[01:52] <Jbirk> where is teh xgl ?
[01:52] <Paco> Need help with Ubuntu install on a DELL 3100; hang with live CD install ar 22-26%...
[01:52] <blindvirus> there?
[01:52] <Jbirk> the ubuntu xgl channel
[01:52] <Jbirk> ?
[01:52] <Wiseguy> dr-x------  1 wiseguy wiseguy 24576 2006-10-11 14:03 usbdisk
[01:52] <blindvirus> i belive i did
[01:52] <Volstrup> Wiseguy: as standard the linux kernel do not support write to NTFS
[01:52] <kitche> Wiseguy: still doesn't use permissions well not the permissions that you think it uses it's own permissions
[01:52] <viator> if you want standard mozilla
[01:52] <viator> its mozilla_browser
[01:52] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: *PASTEBIN* the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:52] <viator> its mozilla-browser
[01:53] <blindvirus> English?
[01:53] <Wiseguy> ugh, so no writing..
[01:53] <kitche> Wiseguy: why are you chmoding the drive? since ntfs you need ntfs-3g or soemthing
[01:53] <boris55> what is the default root password for ubuntu? Doesn't matter I changed it using sudo, I'm just curious.
[01:53] <kitche> boris55: doesn't have one
[01:53] <Wiseguy> kitche, because i thought it was the permissions on the folder, why else?
[01:53] <IcemanV9> ClayG: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26379/
[01:53] <boris55> is there anyway to disable sudo?
[01:54] <bushblows> boris check the ubuntuguide
[01:54] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: at the command line, type "sudo fdisk -l". This will give you a list of your drives. Copy this list. Go to go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org. There, paste this list. It will then upload what you just pasted to the internets and return a link where it may be found. Paste this link to me here.
[01:54] <bushblows> i read it earlier let me try to find it
[01:54] <lansing> java isnt installin
[01:54] <ixian_> is it safe to remove old kernels from grub's menu.lst? there are 4 entries on my bootloader, i want to clean it up a bit. is it ok to just delete their entries in menu.lst?
[01:55] <ArrenLex> ixian: uninstall the old kernels if you don't need them. They will remove themselves automagically from the grub list once they're gone.
[01:55] <Vornotron> ixian_: you will also have to change the index of the default, most likely
[01:55] <mcphail> ixian_: yes, or uninstall the old kernels
[01:55] <viator> heh bushblows nice name
[01:55] <ixian_> how can i uninstall the old ones?
[01:55] <ixian_> synaptic?
[01:55] <coldboot> Who here has eclipse installed?
[01:55] <bushblows> thank you viator, i only state the truth. :)
[01:55] <ArrenLex> ixian: go to synaptic and search for linux-image. Sort by the ones you have installed (first column). Remove the ones you don't need. Find out which one you're running with the command uname -r
[01:55] <patconnexion> hello.. i just installed beryl to work in my ubuntu ... very nice .. but how come that all windows don t have any more top borders ?
[01:55] <ArrenLex> I have eclipse installed.
[01:56] <patconnexion> some knows a solution ?
[01:56] <ClayG> IcemanV9, awsome it looks like it's doing the trick
[01:56] <kitche> patconnexion: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:56] <ClayG> wait....man....it's hanging on the last repo
[01:56] <stickystyle> I have configured several sub-interfaces on my nic; how do i make the system use an interface i define as its primary outbound one? right now all traffic is leaving via the last configured interface in /etc/network/interfaces and that is not what i want.
[01:56] <ClayG> right after it fetches
[01:56] <kitche> patconnexion: but your probably missing Emerald
[01:56] <patconnexion> ok thanks
[01:56] <blindvirus> arrenlex: where does it give mea  url to give you?
[01:57] <blindvirus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26381/
[01:57] <kitche> blindvirus: yep that link
[01:57] <viator> in debian you have the boot or bootup sction
[01:57] <blindvirus> well there we go arrenlex thank u for your help by the way
[01:57] <viator> whre you can edit/remove that stuff
[01:57] <viator> from grub
[01:57] <viator> whats the package called
[01:57] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: wrong thing. That's your fstab. I want something else now. Paste the output of the "sudo fdisk -l" command.
[01:58] <blindvirus> i thought i did let me try again
[01:58] <IcemanV9> ClayG: i just updated and it went fine.
[01:58] <blindvirus> ArrenLex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26383/
[01:58] <ClayG> IcemanV9, I would think that means there is something besides the sources.list affecting me
[01:59] <IcemanV9> ClayG: can you pastebin error?
[01:59] <ArrenLex> ....
[01:59] <ClayG> IcemanV9, still good we got one of the variables out of the way thought
[01:59] <ClayG> sure
[01:59] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: did you use the -l switch?
[01:59] <ArrenLex> That's an L. ell.
[01:59] <blindvirus> what is that lol
[01:59] <blindvirus> oh
[01:59] <blindvirus> nope let me do it again
[01:59] <boris55> what is the newsreader that comes with ubuntu?
[02:00] <blindvirus> ArrenLex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26384/   there im sorry bout that last one
[02:00] <ClayG> wait it looks like this might be because of a pacakge i installed that retrieves the bug reports and tells you before you install
[02:00] <mbmccormick> can someone please help me with setting up cgi in apache for dapper?
[02:00] <oscat> Is there a gui wireless connection package? I am going mad trying to get online.
[02:00] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: and where do you want to mount this partition?
[02:00] <ClayG> IcemanV9, http://pastebin.ca/198430
[02:00] <ArrenLex> \drive?
[02:01] <blindvirus> its a whole hard disk on its own id jsut liek to get the files like music and pictures off of it
[02:01] <kitche> oscat: it's part of ubuntu's networking setup
[02:01] <blindvirus> well id liekt o leave it on ther but accsess it from this partition
[02:01] <mbmccormick> anyone know how to get cgi working in apache?
[02:01] <ricanelite> anyone here use Ubuntu for the Mac?
[02:01] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: yes. Typically, in Linux, they ....GAH. PLEASE watch your typing. Can you translate that to english?!
[02:01] <oscat> kitche where? all I see is very basic things.
[02:01] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: on Linux, typically drives\partitions are mounted into your filesystem to be used.
[02:02] <puff> Is there a better channel than here to get help?
[02:02] <mbmccormick> cgi + apache + ubuntu. anyone?
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> puff, try #slackware
[02:02] <blindvirus> sorry Ive got a salve (hdb) but i would liek to be able to accsess the files on it. files such as music and pictures. now this is a hard drive i have in my ocmputer from windows its got a ntfs filesystem on it so it is adapted to windows and i would like to adapt it to ubuntu here
[02:02] <blindvirus> without loosing data if i may add
[02:02] <IcemanV9> ClayG: it got all package downloaded, but bug reports?!
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> !ntfs
[02:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:03] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: you won't be able to write to it. But you can read from it. Does that satisfy you?
[02:03] <ricanelite> anyone here used Ubuntu Linux one Apple here?
[02:03] <ClayG> yeah looks like this is what it is
[02:03] <bayzider> Hey i missed up deleting my xorg.conf can some one c/p me the exxact file
[02:03] <ClayG> gimem one sec to test
[02:03] <blindvirus> yes entirely
[02:03] <ClayG> and ill list the package that messed me up
[02:03] <blindvirus> its full any way
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> blindvirus, pls read up what ubotu says
[02:03] <ClayG> looks like it's apt-listbugs
[02:03] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: pick a folder in your filesystem where all these files will magically appear. You can create a new wone if you want.
[02:03] <kitche> bayzider: it should remake it when you do startx
[02:03] <ArrenLex> one *
[02:03] <ArrenLex> kitche: how's that? Why?
[02:03] <bayzider> kitche: how do you startx
[02:03] <IcemanV9> ClayG: sudo apt-get -f install
[02:04] <blindvirus> please read where ??? id love a data bank to fall on
[02:04] <puff> wickedpuppy hah-hah.
[02:04] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: are you aware of how partitions work with Linux?
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> !ntfs > blindvirus
[02:04] <blindvirus> nope im a new linux guy used to be all about windows but this is so much better
[02:04] <ClayG> IcemanV9, it's working so far
[02:04] <ArrenLex> wickedpuppy, why? He's said he doesn't want to write to it already.
[02:04] <ClayG> I want to stick to this until the next error, so i know which action fixed it
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> oh okie
[02:04] <blindvirus> haha
[02:04] <blindvirus> dont be mean hes being nice
[02:04] <ClayG> yup it was that
[02:05] <blindvirus> im a total noob right now
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> ArrenLex, that shows how to view ..
[02:05] <kitche> ArrenLex: umm you do know that xorg.conf can be autogenerated just by typing startx if you don't have one right it might not be correct but at least it's a start
[02:05] <blindvirus> ust read from it
[02:05] <puff> Can somebody at least confirm or refute that burning an install CD and installing over my current ubuntu partition without losing my existing data is _possible_?
[02:05] <IcemanV9> ClayG: are u sure? ;)
[02:06] <kitche> bayzider: you just type in startx after you log into the console
[02:06] <ArrenLex> blindvirus: sure, follow the link if you want. Essentially all I'm trying to achieve is the "manual" part of that guide. Do whatever suits you.
[02:06] <ClayG> postivite
[02:06] <ClayG> but i still haven't solved my initial problem
[02:06] <blindvirus> follow what link?
[02:06] <ArrenLex> !ntfs
[02:06] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:06] <ArrenLex> That link.
[02:06] <ClayG> which is making the host that im connecting to appear in full screen, fitted
[02:06] <blindvirus> thank you verry much!
[02:06] <ClayG> when i vnc it
[02:06] <blindvirus> you all rock!
[02:06] <ClayG> the fix was posted to remove xvncviewer and install xvnc4viewer
[02:06] <ClayG> which does not seem to work
[02:07] <bayzider> kitche: X: it igves me this
[02:07] <bayzider> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[02:07] <bayzider> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[02:07] <kitche> bayzider: use paste
[02:07] <genelisp> hi, I'm looking for a package called 'dot' - I did apt-get install dot but it wasn't found - does anyone know anything about it?
[02:07] <kitche> bayzider hmm now that is a very odd error indeed
[02:07] <bayzider> i dleted the .conf
[02:07] <kitche> genelisp: the that can be found in many packages
[02:07] <ArrenLex> gnelisp: what does this "dot" package do?
[02:08] <Shogran> Hey,,
[02:08] <bayzider> !past
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <bayzider> !paste
[02:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> btw ArrenLex i don't know !ntfs is the help for writing .. i thought !fuse is for writing ... did i understand it correctly ?
[02:08] <genelisp> ArrenLex: it provides output ready for a ghostscript viewer
[02:08] <gandolfthewizard> i have tried that but i still can't get it to install
[02:08] <kitche> genelisp: do you have automake installed?
[02:08] <ArrenLex> Yes, that's right. I don't really pay much attention to ubotu. xD He's a reflex.
[02:08] <Shogran>   my sound is off..
[02:08] <genelisp> kitche: yes, I think so
[02:09] <Shogran> wathing anything flash.. or playing emulated games.. the sound is off its like,, behind the video..
[02:09] <ArrenLex> genelisp: where did you hear of this package?
[02:09] <genelisp> ArrenLex: it's ok I've found it - part of a package called GraphViz
[02:10] <bayzider> Kitche: i trying doing it with root perminsions and i got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26385/
[02:10] <Shogran> its really affecting my games..
[02:10] <kitche> genelisp: well see dot can be provided by over 10 packages, but see if dotconf has what you need
[02:10] <ArrenLex> Shogran: yes, it's a common problem. =P Flash for Linux is just bad. Try the following: edit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and change the line to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[02:10] <kitche> bayzider: you still have X up
[02:10] <Shogran> oh okay..
[02:10] <Shogran> ill try that thanks
[02:10] <bayzider> Kitch : HEH?
[02:10] <Shogran> but what about my emulated games?
[02:10] <bayzider> kitche: what?
[02:10] <genelisp> kitche: thanks anyway
[02:11] <kitche> bayzider: do ctrl+F7
[02:11] <ArrenLex> Shogran: what about them? What emulated games? Emulated how? What's the problem?
[02:11] <Shogran> the sound is slow there too
[02:11] <bayzider> Kitche:ok nothing happened...
[02:11] <Jbirk> How do I fix my resolution
[02:11] <Jbirk> ?
[02:11] <kitche> bayzider: ok your in Xorg must be already :)
[02:11] <Shogran> every game on Znes
[02:11] <Xenguy> !resolution > Jbirk
[02:11] <bayzider> Kitche: so starx again?
[02:11] <kitche> bayzider: try this in a console dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[02:12] <Shogran> and fceu
[02:12] <kitche> bayzider don't forget sudo
[02:12] <Jbirk> how do i unload x
[02:12] <Jbirk> and unload the gdm
[02:12] <Jbirk> and unload xgl...
[02:13] <bayzider> Kitche: it gives me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26386/
[02:13] <kitche> bayzider: hmm maybe I got the package name wrong xserver-xorg
[02:14] <bieb> Seveas you around??
[02:15] <macluvajy> i have a G3 ibook running edgy server and I'm trying to get X started, but it won't...
[02:15] <macluvajy> anyone wanna take a stab
[02:15] <bayzider> Kitche: its working but giving me awierd install what is my videos card bus identifier
[02:15] <Shogran> ...
[02:15] <kitche> bayzider: umm you have to know that but you can probably just press enter to that
[02:16] <macluvajy> i've done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and try many different options to no avail
[02:17] <macluvajy> logs point to a waycom driver error, but this isn't a tablet
[02:17] <Shogran> have you tried ctrl alt backspace mac
[02:17] <macluvajy> yea, but I can't ever get x to start
[02:18] <Shogran> hmmm
[02:18] <macluvajy> there are some entries in xorg.conf about waycom devoces
[02:18] <macluvajy> i commented them out, but still no haps
[02:19] <macluvajy> i installed edgy server first, then xserver-xorg-core and whatnot
[02:19] <Shogran> i dunno dude.. im lost.. just like my stuff
[02:20] <macluvajy> what's wrong with yours?
[02:20] <SuperMiguel> how can i make a folder
[02:21] <SuperMiguel> using the terminal
[02:21] <SuperMiguel>  mdir?
[02:21] <bieb> mkdir
[02:21] <macluvajy> mkdir
[02:21] <kitche> SuperMigule: mkdir <name>
[02:21] <Shogran> my sound sync is off when i play Zsnes games
[02:21] <Shogran>  mkdir dude
[02:22] <Hagane> I have a purely esthetic but annoying problem..
[02:23] <|inept|> get a divorce
[02:23] <macluvajy> zing
[02:23] <Shogran> whats your prob dude
[02:23] <Hagane> I can't find any config file or whatever to change resolution and font appearance for GDM
[02:24] <Hagane> My login screen is unaffected by my Gnome configs
[02:24] <Shogran> you cant change your screen resoltuing at all in your ubuntu?
[02:24] <funkja> why would not all the screen resolutions that i have in my xorg.conf show up in the Screen Resolution prefence?
[02:25] <Hagane> Yes I can
[02:25] <Shogran> oh okayl. then its not the problem i had.. and therefore im sorry cannot help you
[02:25] <Hagane> But changing the resolution to say 1024x768 still makes the login screen boot at 1280x1024
[02:25] <Hagane> or, appear as..
[02:25] <Hagane> be.. =)
[02:25] <Shogran> Funkja.. tell me which ones are actually showing
[02:26] <Shogran> hmmm that is wierd hagae and i did have that problem.. but i dont know how i got rid of.. it just.. happened
[02:26] <funkja> Shogran, 1152x864, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480
[02:26] <tjb891> is there a command in linux to reveal all clients on your LAN?
[02:27] <Shogran> those are all you need lol ..  but if you deselc 640x480 it might help
[02:27] <Shogran> in your Xconf
[02:27] <funkja> Does it only show 4?
[02:27] <Hagane> I was thinking maybe there are a unique config for each user, and the login screen looks at some global config..
[02:28] <Shogran> i dunno funkja.. mine only would show 4
[02:28] <funkja> hmm
[02:28] <funkja> okay
[02:28] <funkja> i will try that
[02:28] <Hagane> I'm new to Ubuntu
[02:28] <Hagane> And I don't have that much Linux knowledge
[02:28] <Shogran> me too hagane
[02:28] <Hagane> Cause if I change the font, it affects only my user, right?
[02:29] <THX-1138> Xineram/Twinveiw - Please paste an xorg.conf for me.
[02:29] <Shogran> yeah.. you can only affect your user
[02:29] <Hagane> Like remove the anti-alias
[02:29] <Hagane> So the login could be some global config?
[02:29] <Shogran> hold on  a sec let me get it THX ok?
[02:29] <Shogran> yeah im sure it is
[02:29] <THX-1138> Thank You Shogran
[02:30] <man_id_unknown> How do I find the actualy size in bytes of a file? Ubuntu FileManager is only displaying size in kbs.
[02:30] <Hagane> Ok, so does anyone know where I can find a global config file to setup the appearance of my login screen? :)
[02:30] <Shogran> i found it a long time ago.
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> man_id_unknown, size in kb isn't actual size ?
[02:30] <joeCoT> ma_id_unknown: if you do ls -l from a console, it'll list it in bytes
[02:31] <man_id_unknown> wickedpuppy: it is, but for a programming project, I need it's size to the byte.
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> ah i see ... joeCoT got the answer for ya :P
[02:31] <donie> ver learns?
[02:31] <man_id_unknown> JoeCot: Thank you. ;)
[02:32] <joeCoT> n
[02:32] <joeCoT> *np
[02:32] <SuperMiguel> how can i copy a full folder using the terminal
[02:32] <bieb> cp -R
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> or cp -a
[02:32] <SuperMiguel> i ahve to be inside the folder?
[02:33] <joeCoT> you don't. you can specify the folder name
[02:33] <Shogran> hey THX.. this might help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75149.html
[02:33] <joeCoT> cp -r folder_name /path/to/folder_name
[02:33] <sky123_> !tcpwrappers
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcpwrappers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <THX-1138> Shogran - Outstanding! - Many Thanks.
[02:33] <sky123_> damn
[02:33] <Shogran> no worried man
[02:33] <sky123_> !tcp-wrappers
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcp-wrappers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <Shogran> its not what i used.. but i put my screen on a TV with S-Video
[02:34] <joeCoT> he doesn't know anything about tcp wrappers!
[02:34] <Shogran> is that what your trying?
[02:34] <ricanelite> anyone here uses Ubuntu on Apple Mac?
[02:34] <sky123_> anyone know what the tcpwrappers packages is called to apt-get it??
[02:34] <sky123_> nope....but i use it on a sparc..netra t1...lol
[02:35] <Shogran> i have mine on tandy.. its all i can afford?
[02:35] <joeCoT> apt-cache search tcp wrapper
[02:36] <joeCoT> ricanelite: not really, was there something particular you had a question about?
[02:36] <sky123_> joeCoT: ahhhh...okay...i believe its tcpd
[02:36] <Shogran> Hey THX.. it work out for ya?
[02:36] <flipfone> i'd like to upgrade from dapper to edgy. i downloaded the cd but theres not an option in there. how do i do this?
[02:36] <LjL> !edgy
[02:36] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:37] <Shogran> i like dapper
[02:37] <mubuntu> Hey, im trying to use EasyUbuntu to get all my restricted formats to work
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> !upgrade > wickedpuppy
[02:37] <gandolfthewizard> hi i am looking for some help with installing java i have been to the support site and i still have not been able to install it yet
[02:37] <Shogran> wheres the hold up gandolf?
[02:37] <Shogran> have you been to add/remove programs?
[02:37] <gandolfthewizard> it wont let me install it
[02:38] <joeCoT> is there an error?
[02:38] <gandolfthewizard> yes i have been there and it is not there
[02:38] <gandolfthewizard> no i just can't find it
[02:38] <Shogran> so you dont have a SUnjava ?
[02:38] <flipfone> ty ubotu
[02:38] <gandolfthewizard> no
 anyone here uses Ubuntu on Apple Mac? <- ive had a slight discussion with a friend on this, is it actually possible?
[02:38] <joeCoT> have you followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:38] <Shogran> it should be somewhere...  this is odd
[02:38] <The_Jack_of_Club> i wasnt sure
[02:38] <Hagane> Ubuntu is a really nice dist
[02:38] <The_Jack_of_Club> for the x86 32bit macs that is
[02:38] <Tru7h> ^Amen.
[02:38] <Shogran> thanks hagane.. i made it myself
[02:38] <mubuntu> im trying to use EasyUbuntu to install restricted formats, but it says the PublicKey is not available... can anyone help
[02:39] <Hagane> really!? that's handy of you
[02:39] <Shogran> lmao
[02:39] <SuperMiguel> i made a web page on dreamweaver suing windows, then i try to use that page on apache2 (using linux) but when i try to access to it it says  you don't have permission to access /portal/index.html on this server
[02:39] <gandolfthewizard> i have not been able to find it and i have been trying to get it installed so i can get back to my tourny's that i play
[02:39] <Shogran> ok ok ...
[02:39] <The_Jack_of_Club> mubuntu: ignore it :)
[02:39] <aboutblank> Samba won't start - "user guest in passdb, but getpwnam() fails!" and "error: failed to setup guest info" in log. Have removed and reinstalled many times (and removed smb.conf). any ideas?
[02:39] <Shogran> lemme sit for a sec okay gandalf be wit ya in a tic
[02:39] <joeCoT> Jack_of_Club: yes, for both ppc and x86. There may be a few hangups on hardware and drivers and stuff, but it runs
[02:39] <The_Jack_of_Club> cool
[02:39] <gandolfthewizard> ok ty
[02:39] <sky123_> joeCoT: thanks..openldap kept bitchin about the libwrap0-dev package...but just exclaimed tcp-wrapper package missing...finally over that hurdle...thnx
[02:39] <SuperMiguel>  ou don't have permission to access /portal/index.html on this server.
[02:39] <The_Jack_of_Club> do you use the mac disk or the x86 disk?
[02:40] <designdream> alright.. i am dying here.. anyone here experienced with dmraid and grub?
[02:40] <The_Jack_of_Club> or is there some kind of x86 mac disk?
[02:40] <goofy> is there an ipconfig program in the terminal like there is in windows ms_dos command prompt
[02:40] <joeCoT> Jack_of_club: if it's an older PPC one, the mac disk. If it's running an intel chip, an x86 disk. I don't know how good well it's running on x86. you might want to search on the forums
[02:40] <Flannel> The_Jack_of_Club: the x86 disk, although you need to do some tweaking to get it to work on EFI, elilo and stuff.
[02:41] <The_Jack_of_Club> ok thanks
[02:41] <joeCoT> goofy: ifconfig
[02:41] <The_Jack_of_Club> i guess that means i won the convo :)
[02:41] <designdream> vfs: fails to  with root=(hd0,0)
[02:41] <The_Jack_of_Club> designdream: what are you trying to do?
[02:42] <goofy> thanks joeCoT
[02:42] <Shogran>  Gandalg sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-commonsudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[02:42] <lansing> i still cant install java
[02:42] <Shogran> ack sorry
[02:42] <Shogran> wrong one
[02:42] <htaccess> hi what package do i need to use the sqlite database on the command line ie $ sqlite ?
[02:43] <joeCoT> !sqlite
[02:43] <ubotu> sqlite: command line interface for SQLite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.17-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 80 kB
[02:43] <designdream> The_Jack_of_Club: i am trying to boot a system with /dev/mapper/nvidia_bleh
[02:43] <Shogran> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 THERe.. Gandalg!!
[02:43] <The_Jack_of_Club> uh huh
[02:43] <The_Jack_of_Club> ok
[02:43] <Shogran> there wo go gandalg.. that should work
[02:43] <designdream> The_Jack_of_Club: i dont know what to set my root= for the kernel
[02:43] <Shogran> damn i always miss the  F
[02:43] <Shogran> Gandolf^^
[02:44] <aboutblank> Samba won't start - "user guest in passdb, but getpwnam() fails!" and "error: failed to setup guest info" in log. Have removed and reinstalled many times (and removed smb.conf). any ideas?
[02:44] <The_Jack_of_Club> ok i dont know but if i did i would try to help :)
[02:44] <gandolfthewizard> ty so much i will try tht and get back to you soon
[02:44] <htaccess> joeCoT: thank
[02:46] <clearzen> exit
[02:46] <clearzen> whoops
[02:46] <bimberi> aboutblank: (this is a wild guess), try 'sudo smbpasswd -a guest' to set up an entry in samba's password db
[02:46] <macluvajy> i needed to install x-windows-system-core
[02:46] <tarelerulz> The other day I could get mplayer with synaptic  and now I see kplaye which is not as good
[02:46] <tarelerulz> kplayer
[02:47] <aboutblank> bimberi: no luck
[02:48] <gandolfthewizard> that still didn't work
[02:48] <bimberi> aboutblank: hmmk, sorry nothing else springs to mind :|
[02:48] <oidia> if i have mounter /dev/sda3 @ /stuff & /dev/sdb1 @ /stuff/f and i "mount --bind /stuff /here" shouldent /here/f exist?
[02:50] <gandolfthewizard> does anyone know how t ohelp
[02:50] <CarCase928> helllo
[02:50] <Halpo> how can you get lists of environment variables?
[02:51] <lansing> it keeps comein up wit and error sayin couldnt find package
[02:51] <joeCoT> bbiab
[02:51] <lansing> what do i type to search for it
[02:51] <Flannel> lansing: follow the instructions on that page, to the letter.  It'll work.
[02:51] <CarCase928> I need help, my printer won't work on Ubuntu 6.06TLS, it seems to install ok, but the printer won't do anything when i attempt to print something
[02:52] <lansing> k ill try
[02:52] <bimberi> Halpo: type 'env' in a terminal
[02:53] <delaney> Is anyone else having issues with QUODLIBET crashing on xubuntu 6.06??  its worked fine for months and suddenly any version i try to run crashes before i get through 1/4 of the first song?
[02:53] <Madpilot> CarCase928, have you looked your printer up on linuxprinting.org?
[02:53] <CarCase928> no
[02:54] <O2> hello, good morning
[02:54] <O2> wickedpuppy:  hello, good morning
[02:54] <tarelerulz>  I can't get mplayer with synaptic . DO any of you have proble with such
[02:54] <CarCase928> It's a Lexmark x125, and there is a driver included in the Ubuntu distro package
[02:54] <Halpo> how about a command list for the shell?
[02:55] <Flannel> Halpo: push tab twice
[02:55] <bimberi> tarelerulz: make sure you have the multiverse repository enabled.  Or you can use Applications -> Add/Remove...
[02:55] <viator> how come there no grubconf in the repos anymore?
[02:55] <Madpilot> CarCase928, Lexmark on Linux can be trouble; have a look at linuxprinting's reports, and check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers also
[02:56] <Ronz> hey hey...still having trouble with my nvidia drivers. (for the 5th day in a row....) whenever i start up, it will go likes its going to get to the GDM screen, but hangs on a black screen. used automatix to install my driver, tried installing the driver from nvidia's site...and dind't work. does anyone have any idea's?
[02:57] <bimberi> Halpo: 'man bash' has a command list (way down).  Probably better off searching the web though
[02:58] <OmniD> How would I format my external NTFS drive?
[02:58] <Halpo> for the "tab tab" command....is that listed in a file somewhere...that would be easy to look at
[02:58] <OmniD> Oh! Nevermind.
[02:58] <SuperMiguel>  You don't have permission to access /portal/index.html on this server. why im getting tyhis error on my apache server?
[02:58] <OmniD> I had to disable the drive first.
[02:58] <Elephant> Permissions are probably wrong, SuperMiguel
[02:59] <bimberi> Halpo: sorry, i've no idea
[02:59] <OmniD> Argh I don't see FAT32
[02:59] <Ronz> anyone have any idea's about the nvidia drivers?
[02:59] <Flannel> SuperMiguel: few reasons, either it's not set up so wwwdata can read, or its password protected
[02:59] <Elephant> Where is portal/index.html in the filesystem?
[02:59] <kitche> OmniD: mkdosfs
[02:59] <tarelerulz> How do you update your repositoriey list
[02:59] <Sir_Brizz> RonZ: I had that problem once, but I can't remember how I fixed it in the end
[03:00] <Ronz> tarelerulz, nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:00] <Flannel> Ronz: don't use automatix in the future.  Reinstall and install nvidia like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:00] <Flannel> tarelerulz: sudo apt-get update
[03:00] <OmniD> I got it done
[03:00] <Elephant> Why do so many prefer apt-get over aptitude?
[03:00] <tarelerulz> ok
[03:00] <THX-1138> !easysource
[03:00] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:00] <tarelerulz> Does the gui for doing that have some kind of mess up
[03:01] <blindvirus> anybody in here know about mounting a hard drive ? to read only or read and write it dont matter
[03:01] <Flannel> tarelerulz: no.  In synaptic, hit reload.
[03:01] <bimberi> Elephant: good question, older and more entrenched i would say
[03:01] <tarelerulz> ok
[03:01] <tarelerulz> thanks
[03:01] <tarelerulz> I reload it seem ,but I don't find mplayer anymore
[03:01] <tarelerulz> that is why I am lost
[03:01] <vilefridge> quick question...  I think I know the answer, but just would like to verify.  I have Xubuntu running in a RAID0 (striping) configuration and want to shut the PC down, disconnect the SATA cables, flip the motherboard over, and oil the northbridge fan a bit.  When I reconnect the drives and power the PC on, will the RAID array be ok?  Or will the volume have to be rebuilt/lose Xubuntu or anything crazy?
[03:01] <blindvirus> or how to gain permissions of a new drive that is mounted
[03:01] <Ronz> Flannel, i tried that. that was the first one, and i had a problem since then
[03:01] <tarelerulz> I found it before when I did reload
[03:02] <Ronz> Flannel, i have also reinstalled since then
[03:02] <Elephant> blind:  What kind of problem are you running into?
[03:02] <Ronz> Sir_Brizz, do you remember what you searched for in order to fix that problem w/ the nvidia? ive been pissing with this for about 3 weeks now...
[03:02] <Flannel> Ronz: stay away from automatix, and try it again.  Automatix does no good.
[03:02] <Ronz> Flannel, i have tried every other method, and automatix was the last one. =/
[03:02] <SuperMiguel>  You don't have permission to access /portal/index.html on this server. why im getting this eeror when i try to load my apache web page??
[03:02] <goofy> i was formatting a hdd and adding some entries in my fstab and now ia drive shows up in my disk manager with no info but the size and i cant do anything with it. its the same size as one of my drives that is showing up but the files arent showing up
[03:02] <Sir_Brizz> RonZ: what card do you have?
[03:03] <dsnyders> HI all.  Is there a ls command to list only the directories, like dir /a:d in DOS?
[03:03] <Ronz> Sir_Brizz, 6800 GT
[03:03] <Flannel> Ronz: automatix does nothing but break things and make them unfixable
[03:03] <Sir_Brizz> hmm
[03:03] <Daemoen> ok... is there a developer here who can answer a real quick question
[03:03] <blindvirus> elephant i just went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions and followed all the isntructions i foundt he ahrd drive in several places but it said "the folder contents could not be displayed you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contends of hdb1" and all i want  is the music and the picture files off of it or perferably read from it
[03:03] <SuperMiguel> i can see it when i click on it on the folder /var/www/portal
[03:03] <tarelerulz> Ok that does not seem to get me mplayer i
[03:03] <SuperMiguel> but when i go to localhost/portal
[03:03] <oidia> how do i makfs?
[03:03] <tarelerulz> do they not have it in ubuntu repositories
[03:03] <SuperMiguel> it give me an error
[03:03] <oidia> makefs*
[03:04] <Sir_Brizz> RonZL I can't even remember....
[03:04] <Daemoen> why the hell would you update /etc/hostname but not /etc/hosts when you run hostname.  friend is new to linux, doesnt remember his root password, and I had him change his hostname, most distro's are intelligent to update all required files for gethostbyname() but seems ubuntu doesnt
[03:04] <Sir_Brizz> it was something stupid like my monitor didn't support the resolution
[03:04] <Ronz> Sir_Brizz, i think it may be different than that
[03:04] <lansing> nuthin works it keeps comein up wit errors
[03:04] <Daemoen> so now, he cant even use sudo to correct it, and he doesnt remember his root pw (hes new to linux).  so im looking for suggestions.
[03:04] <blindvirus> elephant: any ideas?
[03:05] <Flannel> Daemoen: did he set a root password?
[03:05] <THX-1138> !password
[03:05] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[03:05] <Elephant> blind, how is hbd1 formatted?  NTFS?  FAT?  Something else
[03:05] <Elephant> ?
[03:06] <blindvirus> ntfs
[03:06] <blindvirus> well
[03:06] <blindvirus> to be specific
[03:06] <Daemoen> well, if not hes really screwed.  whats the default assumed pw for ubuntu?
[03:06] <bimberi> Daemoen: he'll need to use recovery mode, which boots to a root shell as long as he didn't set a root p/w
[03:06] <blindvirus> HPFS?NTFS
[03:06] <Daemoen> ive never used the distro
[03:06] <Flannel> Daemoen: there is no default root password.  Did he set a root password?
[03:06] <blindvirus> * / not ?
[03:06] <Daemoen> thats a really stupid flaw in the design of ubuntu then, it should update all required files for gethostbyname, not just /etc/hostname
[03:07] <goofy>  i was formatting a hdd and adding some entries in my fstab and now ia drive shows up in my disk manager with no info but the size and i cant do anything with it. its the same size as one of my drives that is showing up but the files arent showing up
[03:07] <Flannel> Daemoen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  have him boot into recovery mode.
[03:07] <dsnyders> goofy, You say you formatted the drive and there are no files on it?
[03:08] <bimberi> Daemoen: please report it via...
[03:08] <bimberi> !bug
[03:08] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[03:08] <goofy> different drive
[03:08] <goofy> i have 4
[03:08] <lansing> hey flannel nuttin works on that page
[03:08] <Elephant> blind, what does your fstab look like?
[03:09] <blindvirus> ?? want me to paste it on that site that the last guy gave me?
[03:09] <Elephant> yeah
[03:09] <Flannel> lansing: yes it does, hundreds of people have done it before you.  You just need to follow all of the commands explicitly.  join #ubuntu-classroom, I'll walk you through it
[03:09] <blindvirus> what was the url again
[03:09] <Elephant> !pastebin
[03:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:09] <blindvirus> !pastebin
[03:09] <lansing> on here
[03:09] <blindvirus> hyH?
[03:10] <blindvirus> huh? lol
[03:10] <lansing> on x-chat
[03:10] <Flannel> lansing: yes.  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[03:10] <blindvirus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26390/
[03:11] <w30> I installed from Synaptic nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common and that was it. My nvidia card just worked after that. It won't work to have the nvidia.com installer and the Ubuntu Nvida apps both installed and fight each other.
[03:12] <blindvirus> elephant: did u get the url?
[03:13] <sjbrown> anyone know how i change the tone of my keyboard bell under ubuntu?
[03:13] <Volstrup> sjbrown: what bell? And which version of Ubuntu?
[03:13] <goofy> dsnyders: i have 5 hdd's in my disk manager but i only have 4 drives the 5th drive is the same size as the drive that i cant access the files on
[03:13] <joao> what's the the web site where can I find the firefox tutorial installation for ubuntu 5.1?
[03:14] <sjbrown> hit esc too many times in a terminal -- that bell
[03:14] <sky123_> Do the Ubuntu packages for openldap by default have SSL/TLS support??
[03:14] <psusi> that tone is generated by the PC speaker... I don't think you can change it
[03:14] <sjbrown> dapper
[03:14] <sjbrown> psusi, used to be able to with redhat
[03:14] <sjbrown> redhat 5.2
[03:15] <blindvirus> elephant?
[03:15] <goofy> dsnyders: the 5th drive also doesnt have a moddle # or anything just the size
[03:15] <joao> lah so tem tut pra instalar plug in do firefox
[03:15] <Elephant> blind:  What do you get...
[03:15] <whaley_> joao: eh?
[03:15] <Elephant> when you do
[03:15] <blindvirus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26390/
[03:15] <Elephant> cd /media
[03:15] <Elephant> ls -l
[03:16] <t0phr3> does anyone know if NetworkManager is going to be in Edgy?
[03:16] <blindvirus> elephant: no such file or directory
[03:16] <Elephant> What do you get when you type
[03:16] <Elephant> mount
[03:17] <blindvirus> a huge lsit of crap
[03:17] <Elephant> Hmm...what about
[03:17] <Elephant> cd /
[03:17] <blindvirus> it said the hdbq is mounted
[03:17] <Volstrup> sjbrown: go to the System -> Options (my guess, I'm not running the english version) -> Sound -> Systembeep and remove the check
[03:17] <Elephant> ls
[03:17] <crimsun> t0phr3: it's still in main but is no longer in the desktop seed afaict
[03:17] <blindvirus> no file or directory
[03:17] <Elephant> wtf?
[03:17] <sjbrown> Volstrup, i want it to beep though
[03:17] <blindvirus> cd/?
[03:17] <avagant> Beep'd.
[03:17] <sjbrown> just at a different frequency than my cubemate
[03:17] <Elephant> the space is important
[03:17] <Elephant> cd /
[03:17] <Elephant> not cd/
[03:17] <blindvirus> oh lol
[03:17] <blindvirus> new line
[03:17] <clearzen> I have 2 raid arrays one is raid 0 across 4 drives. the second is raid 3. The problem is they are both the same size and do not have labels. Is there an easy way I can tell which is the raid 3 array and which is raid 0?
[03:18] <K`zan> Can anyone tell me how to get portmapper running on ubuntu, no luck finding it in the add/remove stuff :-/.  TIA.
[03:18] <t0phr3> crimsun: so it won't be the default in the final release?
[03:18] <bieb> Clear.. what card are you using for Raid 3?
[03:18] <psusi> raid3?
[03:18] <avagant> On Ubuntu is there anyway to get the newer Konversation?
[03:18] <sky123_> clearzen: mdadm and one of th flags maybe able to give you this info... man mdadm??
[03:18] <avagant> I don't like xchat or the likes.
[03:18] <psusi> you mean 5?
[03:18] <Elephant> K`zan:  sudo aptitude install portmap
[03:19] <clearzen> bieb:I'm not next to my server....give me a second
[03:19] <bieb> ok
[03:19] <Flannel> avagant: sudo apt-get install konversation
[03:19] <skrittles> Ok.  Irssi isn't joining this room... any ideas?
[03:19] <Volstrup> sjbrown: then I have no sollution for you
[03:19] <skrittles> It connected to the server just fine though : /
[03:19] <avagant> It's not the newest version in our repositories.
[03:19] <blindvirus> any idea elephant?
[03:19] <Flannel> avagant: er... what? yes it is
[03:19] <Elephant> blind:  What do you get from cd /media; ls -l ?
[03:19] <avagant> No the newest is like 1.0 or something.
[03:20] <avagant> Mine is like 9.0 something or something like that.
[03:20] <AngryElf> does anyone have or know of any information regarding 5.1 audio?
[03:20] <Elephant> (excluding the ?-mark)
[03:20] <Flannel> avagant: ah, you want the newest version that ISNT in the repositories.  You'd have to compile it yourself, since I dont think the konversation people have released it as a deb, but they might have
[03:20] <sjbrown> curse the turn-of-the-millenium push to make guis less cluttered
[03:20] <avagant> Actually I have like 0.19 haha.
[03:20] <avagant> Ew me and compiling anything aren't friends.
[03:21] <Flannel> avagant: 1.0 is in edgy
[03:21] <blindvirus> elephant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26391/
[03:21] <Flannel> !info konversation edgy
[03:21] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 5023 kB, installed size 12200 kB
[03:21] <Elephant> In that channel, type
[03:21] <sky123_> everyone knows guis were created so that you can open more shell windows...;)
[03:21] <blindvirus> huh?
[03:21] <crimsun> t0phr3: it doesn't look like it.
[03:21] <avagant> Do I have to have edgy to get it?
[03:22] <mOrO^> is there a place I can DL ubantu that I can burn to DVD?
[03:22] <blindvirus> elephant: channel type?
[03:22] <Elephant> sudo chmod -R ugo+r hdb1
[03:22] <Elephant> err
[03:22] <Elephant> not channel
[03:22] <Elephant> directory*
[03:22] <Elephant> sftc
[03:22] <K`zan> Never mind, think deb and forget the ubuntu utils :-).
[03:22] <blindvirus> cannot acses read only system
[03:23] <Flannel> mOrO^: yes, on the download page (ubuntu.com/download) scroll all the way down, there are DVD mirrors
[03:23] <clearzen> bieb: I believe this is what you where looking for. RAID bus controller: 3ware Inc 7xxx/8xxx-series PATA/SATA-RAID
[03:23] <mOrO^> Flannel: thank you!!
[03:23] <avagant> i guess not huh
[03:23] <Flannel> avagant: if you don't want to compile, yes.
[03:23] <blindvirus> elephant:cannot acses read only system
[03:23] <bieb> cool.. thanks clear
[03:23] <mOrO^> Flannel: I see it.
[03:23] <clearzen> no problem
[03:23] <lansing> where do i get a mp3 downloader from
[03:24] <avagant> I know 0.19 is like 10 versions back.
[03:24] <avagant> Haha
[03:24] <Flannel> lansing: what sort of mp3 downloader?
[03:24] <Flannel> avagant: It's whatever version was out when Dapper was frozen
[03:24] <avagant> lansing: Haven't you tried Nicotine yet?
[03:24] <avagant> Is there a way to update it?
[03:24] <Elephant> blind:  then sudo cd hdb1
[03:24] <varsendaggr> hey i have a wireless router...   and someone is using it....   is there anyway to track who is using it?
[03:25] <Elephant> also, what's in /media/windows?
[03:25] <Flannel> avagant: no.  Upgrade to Edgy for new versions, ubuntu's releases are frozen at versions.
[03:25] <b_> hello
[03:25] <avagant> Ack, I'm afraid to upgrade because I have my sound exactly how I want it.
[03:25] <Flannel> varsendaggr: that'd depend on the router
[03:25] <blindvirus> elephant command not fiound and empty directory
[03:25] <Flannel> avagant: then you're stuck with the older version
[03:25] <avagant> Hahaha.
[03:25] <avagant> If I upgraded would it destroy everything I have now?
[03:26] <mOrO^> Flannel: I just need the one ISO file? Which is 3.2Gig?
[03:26] <varsendaggr> it is a actiontech
[03:26] <avagant> Ubuntu hasn't been good to me.
[03:26] <varsendaggr> Flannel, what are some of the options
[03:26] <b_> is it possible to creat a boot diskette which to load the linux, becouse the sun ultra5 prom doesn't understand pci->ide storage device as bootable
[03:26] <Flannel> avagant: no, although you're uppgrading to a beta release, so there's technically go guarentee it'll upgrade cleanly
[03:26] <lansing> no avagant dont know where to get it and dont know how to extract it
[03:26] <Flannel> varsendaggr: er... what?  I have no idea.  It all depends on the router
[03:26] <Elephant> Hmm...I'm not sure, blind
[03:26] <Elephant> I'm at the limits of my knowledge
[03:26] <avagant> lansing: Google nicotine+ track
[03:26] <blindvirus> thanks for the help any way
[03:26] <Flannel> mOrO^: right, just the ISO
[03:26] <blindvirus> u know of any like
[03:26] <blindvirus> forums or help places?
[03:27] <lansing> and i dont know how to connect to its server
[03:27] <mOrO^> Flannel: thanks... hopefully tonight Ill have my first Linux box :)
[03:27] <Flannel> mOrO^: burn slowly too.. 4x
[03:27] <avagant> There's instructions, you have to put the address in your repositories.
[03:27] <mOrO^> Flannel: ok.
[03:27] <CarCase928> i went on to the forums, and i found the way to get the printer to work, but it still failed, i still can't get the thing to work.
[03:27] <avagant> It's really easy to do, seriously.
[03:27] <SuperMiguel> how cna i delete everythin gthat is inside a folder?
[03:28] <lansing> ok n would u have time to help me once i get it
[03:28] <avagant> Well I mean all you have to do once you get the address is "sudo apt-get install nicotine"
[03:29] <lansing> thats it
[03:29] <avagant> And then enter your music directory a screen name and password and bam you're in like flin.
[03:29] <psusi> SuperMiguel: from the console or gui?
[03:29] <avagant> It is alot easier some of this stuff then it seems at first.
[03:29] <SurfnKid> linux is definitely a Piece of s.... when it comes to downloading, copying,removing and erasing photos from a Sony digital camera. Index is all gone, due to the confusion it did on the allocation table, way to go
[03:29] <Ropechoborra> How do i update in a tty ??
[03:30] <lansing> but do i have to register to it cusi dont have auser name or pass for it
[03:30] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: update what?
[03:30] <Ropechoborra> I did apt-get update... now what ??
[03:30] <avagant> No.
[03:30] <b_> is it possible to creat a boot diskette which to load the linux, becouse the sun ultra5 prom doesn't understand pci->ide storage device as bootable?
[03:30] <_aasics_>  Ropechoborra apt-get upgrade
[03:30] <avagant> lansing: You just enter a pass and nick, don't have to register anything
[03:30] <Flannel> !tell Ropechoborra about upgrade
[03:30] <Volstrup> SurfnKid: perhaps an error with code 40?
[03:30] <Ropechoborra> _aasics_ Ty =)
[03:30] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: read that page
[03:30] <Madpilot> Ropechoborra, sudo apt-get update, then 'sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:30] <lansing> ok
[03:30] <avagant> lansing: You just have to remember the pass and nick.
[03:30] <Flannel> Oh, you just want to... yeah, Ropechoborra, nevermind.
[03:30] <whaley_> ;o
[03:30] <avagant> You should really get the newer version of Nicotine I had trouble with the older version in the repositories now.
[03:30] <Ropechoborra> Flannel Thanks =)
[03:31] <Ropechoborra> Madpilot ty =)
[03:31] <SurfnKid> Volstrup, I didnt get that, what is it?
[03:31] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: don't read that page ;)  read what Madpilot wrote
[03:32] <Ropechoborra> Ok... taking notes... "not to read the pages... always read to Madpilot " xD :P
[03:32] <avagant> lansing: To download this....put this in your terminal.
[03:32] <avagant> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26393/plain/
[03:32] <avagant> Follow this link.
[03:33] <avagant> And put it EXACTLY in your terminal as typed.
[03:33] <funkja> Anyone know of good software to use with a midi keyboard?
[03:33] <avagant> One line at a time.
[03:33] <rance> im having some trouble with sshd, its listening on both my internal and external interfaces, but on the external intercase sshd refuses to authenticate a user, but it will from the internal interface, on the outise it just says permission denied, no matter what
[03:33] <SuperMiguel> psusi console
[03:33] <xored> after waking up out of suspend2 with 2.6.18 my intel_hda sound is not working. Restarting alsa is not working, what could i try ?
[03:33] <rance> any ideas?
[03:33] <avagant> It's great they made nicotine backportable.
[03:33] <avagant> Because compiling is a huge waste of time if you have no idea what you are doing.
[03:34] <TreMobyl> what is required to upgrade to Edgy?
[03:34] <avagant> They say "You live you learn" but I haven't learned yet, and I'm pretty slow at it Haha.
[03:34] <IceGuest_5> yahbuntew!
[03:34] <TreMobyl> I would like to help test
[03:34] <TreMobyl> provided it doesn't hurt too badly.  :)
[03:35] <avagant> Do you have a good grip on Ubuntu or this version, Tre?
[03:35] <TreMobyl> avagant: I used to run Debian for a long time at testing and sid
[03:36] <TreMobyl> dunno if that qualifies
[03:36] <avagant> I just don't want people flying all willy nilly into things.
[03:36] <avagant> Hahah
[03:36] <TreMobyl> I'm new to ubuntu
[03:36] <avagant> Like I did.
[03:36] <TreMobyl> so far, I am really liking the simplicity
[03:36] <avagant> Never used linux before in my life.
[03:36] <avagant> Could hardly do a command prompt (whatever) in windows.
[03:36] <TreMobyl> avagant: cool
[03:37] <avagant> I like it but...
[03:37] <TreMobyl> arguably, the command prompt in windows isn't generally useful to learn....  :)
[03:37] <avagant> Yah I guess not.
[03:37] <avagant> That's probably why I never did.
[03:37] <avagant> Haha
[03:37] <avagant> I remember my old old apple my parents had we had to run programs from a command line.
[03:37] <avagant> But that was like 20 years ago. haha.
[03:38] <avagant> SPACE QUEST TWO
[03:38] <psusi> Mmmmm... Space Quest 3: Two guys from Andromeda
[03:38] <psusi> damn scumsoft!
[03:38] <avagant> The second one was such a mind job.
[03:38] <TreMobyl> Space Quest 4: Tux....  In....  SPAAAAAAACE!
[03:38] <bawnpa> evolution is sloww to start on my machine, takes like 5-10 minutes, anyone know what the deal is? this trouble started earlier this week after i realized my clock was 2 hours ahead and set up a daily ntpd cronjob to keep my time somewhat reasonably accurate
[03:39] <avagant> The weater function I have in my panel never updates right at all.
[03:39] <bawnpa> my computer is rebelling against me after having set my clock to the proper time, even though i shouldn't have any future-modified files anymore
[03:39] <avagant> Adesklets is worthless, they should have one just for gnome.
[03:40] <ellioTb> can nautilus browse mac networks?
[03:40] <TreMobyl> so, back to helping test edgy
[03:40] <TreMobyl> just change "dapper" to "edgy" in /etc/apt/sources.list, or what?
[03:40] <goofy> what colud cause my disk managet to show an extra hdd
[03:40] <ellioTb> TreMobyl, yup
[03:40] <fildo> supposidly
[03:41] <ellioTb> then do a apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:41] <avagant> I think you have to do sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:41] <avagant> ellioTb: beat me to it.
[03:41] <fildo> i got a heap of errors. according to linux-distro*.deb
[03:41] <psusi> TreMobyl yes, then do sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:41] <skrittles> Yes changing Dapper to Edgy works fine.
[03:41] <ellioTb> lol, i win
[03:41] <psusi> I'm in the process of upgrading right now
[03:41] <skrittles> It's how I upgraded mine and I had no problems.
[03:41] <fildo> weird ..
[03:41] <ellioTb> anyone ever browsed an osx network from ubuntu?
[03:41] <avagant> skrittles, have problems with sound or anything?
[03:41] <ellioTb> i want to get on the one at school tomorrow when i take my laptop
[03:42] <avagant> lansing: You still here?
[03:42] <skrittles> None what so ever.
[03:42] <chucktg> didn't work for me, had to dload the cd
[03:42] <fildo> ellioTb: samba should work
[03:42] <avagant> I don't think I'm gonna upgrade until I know it's a solid version.
[03:42] <skrittles> Only problem I had was my X server broke (but it was due to the NVIDIA beta driver)
[03:42] <avagant> I have had a hard enough time with the Ubuntu I already have.
[03:42] <fildo> avagant: im with you
[03:42] <ellioTb> fildo, will it only work if the osx has "windows file sharing" enabled?
[03:42] <psusi> I'm upgrading because X is borked under dapper for my new video card
[03:42] <totall_6_7> i havent seen anything that would make me want to upgrade
[03:42] <fildo> development so buggy, even tho so close to release
[03:42] <fildo> opps car alarm going off brb
[03:42] <avagant> Haha
[03:43] <skrittles> Simply Amarok 1.4 is what made me upgrade =p
[03:43] <psusi> and while using only the text console is nostalgic, I'd like a working X ;)
[03:43] <ellioTb> i just can't find a good samba browser besides nautilus
[03:43] <ellioTb> (i am in xubuntu right now)
[03:43] <Volstrup> ellioTb: smb4k
[03:43] <avagant> Is the new Amarok nice?
[03:43] <ellioTb> Volstrup, thanks bud
[03:43] <avagant> I want the new Konversationnnn.
[03:43] <avagant> Haha.
[03:44] <chucktg> new amarok is very nice
[03:44] <Volstrup> ellioTb: just be aware that smb4k mounts instead of just browsing, so you'll have to use some other filemanager to watch/open the files.
[03:45] <ellioTb> Volstrup, thats fine, just the mac network is so confusing at school, i just use smbmount for windows shares, but those osx are a lil diff
[03:45] <avagant> So yah lansing you still there?
[03:45] <fildo> ha some noob must of gone past with loud exhaust
[03:46] <fildo> n set off alarm .
[03:46] <lansing> thanx so much for everyones time  for helpin me
[03:46] <totall_6_7> Amarok is a music player? if so it seems like a lot for a music player
[03:46] <ellioTb> Volstrup, works perfect!
[03:46] <robocop> hello there
[03:46] <psusi> XMMS user here...
[03:46] <sjbrown> fyi, it was `xset`
[03:46] <totall_6_7> same here
[03:47] <avagant> I use XMMS.
[03:47] <robocop> is it possible ot get XGL/compiz up and runnin' on mepis using an ubuntu howto?
[03:47] <Volstrup> ellioTb: I know :)
[03:47] <avagant> I just found out how to skin XMMS so I'm pretty happy for myself now.
[03:47] <lansing> ya iam here iam all set now do i need ne others for playin the music i download
[03:47] <hot_wheelz> Hi does anyone here have have a MythTv box using Ubuntu 6.06.1 a Asus P5B,Asus 7300GT, Hauppauge Nova - T 500 Dual Digital PCI housed in a silverstone lc16m by any chance? - pls ping me if yes
[03:47] <avagant> I feel slick.
[03:47] <avagant> lansing: Get XMMS.
[03:47] <avagant> sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:48] <avagant> Wait you'll probably need all the gstreamer plugins for that.
[03:48] <Volstrup> ellioTb: I've used quite some time trying out different samba browsers - the perfect sollution would be some kind of merge between the way nautilus handles samba and the way smb4k handles it
[03:48] <avagant> I don't know if you've done that yet.
[03:48] <Ediehow> how do i turn on the sshd service
[03:48] <Ediehow> ?
[03:48] <avagant> Did you push back in the terminal?
[03:48] <avagant> Haha
[03:48] <TreMobyl> edgy is taking away my bzr.  :(
[03:48] <avagant> That's how I check to see if I still have sound, by pushing the backbutton when I'm in the terminal.
[03:48] <_aasics_> Ediehow, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[03:49] <_aasics_> Ediehow, as long as you have it installed, of course
[03:49] <TreMobyl> with no sane version control, no wonder the eft is edgy
[03:49] <Volstrup> and again! And it's beeping while i just stare at my screen... VERY mysterious
[03:49] <avagant> bzr?
[03:49] <avagant> Hmm.
[03:49] <TreMobyl> bazaar-ng
[03:49] <avagant> Sounds in the irc client?
[03:49] <ellioTb> Volstrup, the trick would be having a really nice way to browse/mount osx shares
[03:50] <avagant> It surprized me when I first started up gaim and heard noises.
[03:50] <chucktg> beep attack:)
[03:50] <Ediehow> how do i turn on the sshd service?
[03:50] <Volstrup> ellioTb: I know nothing about those shares - is it something similar to samba?
[03:50] <Snake> Does ubuntu plan to remove firefox in edgy?
[03:50] <_aasics_> Ediehow, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd
[03:50] <lansing> i think ive got all the gs streamers cus my sound is working
[03:50] <_aasics_> Ediehow, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[03:50] <Ediehow> _aasics_: i want it turned on permanently
[03:50] <Volstrup> my computer just keeps om beeping - very alarming!
[03:50] <ellioTb> Volstrup, i think it is if the osx servers enable windows file sharing, otherwise its something else weird
[03:51] <TreMobyl> Snake: it's not marked for un-installation
[03:51] <ellioTb> Volstrup, overheating!
[03:51] <codecaine> hey the power went out and on real quick now when I turn my pc on it says on the boot up screen doesn't even make it to the part where it ask if you want to do the bios
[03:51] <codecaine> what do you think the cause of that?
[03:51] <Snake> TreMobyl: so regardless of the crap being spread for debian and firefox, ubuntu plans to keep it?
[03:51] <Volstrup> ellioTb: I don't think so - usually it's below 35C degrees
[03:51] <codecaine> motherboard fried?
[03:52] <TreMobyl> Snake: I dunno about the plans; I'm just telling you what I'm seeing on upgrading from dapper to edgy
[03:52] <Snake> alright
[03:52] <Snake> hmmm
[03:52] <Snake> thanks
[03:52] <TreMobyl> nphthhand
[03:52] <_aasics_> Ediehow, sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/sshd /etc/rc2.d/S99sshd
[03:52] <TreMobyl> iceweasel?
[03:52] <Ediehow> on ubuntu, is sshd installed by default?  there doesn't seem to be an sshd config file
[03:53] <TreMobyl> I don't see "weasel" in apt-cache
[03:53] <Volstrup> TreMobyl: yes, the browser in future known as IceWeasel
[03:53] <Phuzion> Ediehow:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:53] <OmniD> what's the program I need to unrar things?
[03:53] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm having a really weird problem with ubuntu....
[03:53] <Phuzion> !ask
[03:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:53] <Random_Transit> i have various apps starting to memory leak for no good reason
[03:53] <joao> is there a codec for wmv ??
[03:54] <ellioTb> anyone used PEAP for wireless authentication with ubuntu?
[03:54] <Volstrup> !ubotu
[03:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:54] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I am
[03:54] <joao> for ubuntu 5.10
[03:54] <ellioTb> thats what my school uses, and i have no idea
[03:54] <ellioTb> ubotu: peap
[03:54] <_aasics_> ellioTb, 802.1x PEAP
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about peap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <OmniD> !unrar > OmniD
[03:54] <ellioTb> _aasics_, yeah
[03:54] <chucktg> quit
[03:54] <Ediehow> i need to add port 23 to sshd config
[03:54] <_aasics_> ellioTb, what school?
[03:54] <TreMobyl> ellioTb: peap?
[03:54] <Ediehow> where is config file?
[03:54] <ellioTb> _aasics_, texas state university
[03:55] <ellioTb> and they use that 802.1x PEAP if you want to be on a secured network
[03:55] <_aasics_> ellioTb, my campus is the same
[03:55] <TreMobyl> ellioTb: http://www.divms.uiowa.edu/help/wireless/linux.html
[03:55] <Elephant> Ediehow, did you install the ssh server package, or did you set sshd up some other way?
[03:55] <TreMobyl> is for uiowa, but it may work for you too
[03:55] <Phuzion> Ediehow:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server, if you want to install the sshd
[03:55] <TreMobyl> we're peap as well (stupid fascist net monkeys)
[03:55] <Elephant> aptitude*
[03:56] <Phuzion> Is there anything I can use to put a small terminal into my top menubar?
[03:56] <Phuzion> Like, just one line
[03:56] <ellioTb> TreMobyl, thanx, was it that hard to setup in ubuntu?
[03:57] <TreMobyl> ellioTb: not done it yet.  I just got ubuntu installed yesterday
[03:57] <_aasics_> ellioTb, it took me a couple minutes
[03:57] <TreMobyl> it seemd to work alright in gentoo
[03:57] <_aasics_> ellioTb, yeah, I don't have much trouble with it
[03:57] <ellioTb> nice, well atleast your school lets you know how to do it for linux
[03:57] <ellioTb> mine doesn't even mention it
[03:57] <ellioTb> brb
[03:57] <_aasics_> k
[03:57] <TreMobyl> ellioTb: they don't officially support us.
[03:58] <_aasics_> TreMobyl, fascists.
[03:58] <TreMobyl> there's an Aegis client they'll maybe maybe *maybe* let you use if you beg enough
[03:59] <Ediehow> does sshd on ubuntu by default allow remote connections?
[03:59] <Ediehow> or is it firewalled to not allow?
[03:59] <sproingie> i should imagine it allows remote connections, that's what it's made for
[03:59] <TreMobyl> _aasics_: may we someday live in a world where we get some respect
[03:59] <Phuzion> Ediehow: There is no firewall built into Ubuntu by default
[03:59] <_aasics_> Ediehow, i've never had to configure it; always worked out of the box
[04:00] <AngryElf> can anyone here explain an optical port that is on (i.e. red light) but no sound recognized by the receiver?
[04:00] <Phuzion> AngryEld:  The port might be getting power, but not actually sending data
[04:00] <sproingie> my optical outputs are always lit whether they're in use or not
[04:01] <AngryElf> yea, but i somehow managed to get mine on and i'm not sure -- yet still no sound
[04:01] <AngryElf> they were off after a fresh dapper install
[04:01] <Phuzion> It's not configured properly
[04:01] <AngryElf> clearly
[04:01] <Phuzion> Is there any documentation for your sound card?
[04:02] <AngryElf> i swear last time i installed ubuntu it "just worked"
[04:02] <clearzen> I'm trying to use mdadm to look at raid arrays I have created. However it tells me No md super block found, not a md component. I know that it is in fact a raid device. Any idea what I am doing wrong?
[04:02] <avr> hello. can anyone direct me to a channel in freenode for unix programming help? thanls!
[04:02] <avr> *thanks
[04:02] <Phuzion> avr:  Possibly #unix?  Just a guess
[04:03] <avr> Phuzion: yes, i checked ##unix, there's (almost) noone there
[04:03] <Phuzion> Hmm
[04:03] <Phuzion> Not sure then
[04:03] <sproingie> try the channel for the language you're programming in
[04:03] <psusi> avr: try #unix and #C on effnet
[04:03] <Ediehow> what's best way to make hostname name permanent in ubuntu?
[04:03] <avr> sproingie, psusi: ok, will do. thanks
[04:04] <sproingie> Ediehow: /etc/hostname
[04:05] <Phuzion> !formats
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <avagant> Sweet I got the new Konversation. haha
[04:05] <sproingie> mine updated too.  security patch, eh?
[04:05] <Vendetta> for an unknown reason, i cant login to my machine (nor my regular account, nor root), ive tried 2.1.2 from http://linuxgazette.net/107/tomar.html  but without success, any suggestion so i can login back to my root account?
[04:06] <Vendetta> of course, ive direct access to machine (just beside me)
[04:06] <whyso> are there big improvements in ext4? is it safe to use it for important data yet?
[04:07] <Phuzion> whyso:  any reason that you don't like ext3?  Or are you just experimenting?
[04:07] <psusi> whyso: I don't think it actually exists yet
[04:07] <whyso> well, i was about to switch to ubuntu and heard it came out, and thought it might have new features (ability to resize partion?
[04:08] <psusi> and I believe parted can resize ext2/3
[04:08] <snoops> ext4 is out..was released a couple days ago
[04:08] <whyso> http://www.kr.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.19-rc1/2.6.19-rc1-mm1/announce.txt
[04:08] <snoops> allows for much larger size, as well as extends..which I don't know a lot about
[04:08] <Phuzion> Is there any official support on Ubuntu for fluxbox?
[04:08] <psusi> I don't think so snoops.... it was forked from ext3 in the kernel sources like a month ago, and afaik, is under very active early development
[04:09] <whyso> im sorta not an expert, anyone know if theres any big differences from ext4/3
[04:09] <ikus060> How I can do to don't load the X server at startup ??
[04:09] <avagant> media
[04:09] <avagant> hmm
[04:09] <snoops> basically, it says you're likely to not notice any difference for home users
[04:10] <Phuzion> whyso:  one huge differnce we know is this:  we know ext3 works and is stable
[04:10] <Noah0504> Has anyone had success with Edgy automatically configuring Broadcom cards?
[04:10] <whyso> ah ok
[04:10] <whyso> thanks guys ill just use 3
[04:10] <snoops> psusi..yeah that link whyso pasted..
[04:10] <Flannel> Noah0504: #ubuntu+1
[04:11] <Phuzion> Just out of curiosity, does Ubuntu have support for serial mice?
[04:11] <Phuzion> old school, 3 button serial mice
[04:11] <snoops> I mean, there are more filesystems for linux than just ext3, and 4 whyso..so you could try out others.. xfs, reiser4, reiserfs etc
[04:11] <whyso> hey, btw is there an official newbie help ubuntu channel? or one stricly not for that?
[04:11] <tritium> Phuzion: yes
[04:11] <tritium> psusi: don't hold your breath, especially after the latest news
[04:12] <shea> i can attest to xfs, been using it for 6 years now with no problems
[04:12] <Phuzion> tritium:  That's awesome, I might be using an oldschool mouse soon
[04:12] <sproingie> reiser4 has a few, uh, setbacks in its development cycle
[04:12] <whyso> hows it compare to ext
[04:12] <whyso> (xfs)
[04:12] <tritium> whyso: dangerous!
[04:12] <tritium> whyso: oh, thought you meant reiserfs
[04:12] <whyso> lol
[04:12] <shea> dunno i'm from irix-land so i never actually used ext on a workstation :)
[04:12] <whyso> reiser himself is the dangerous one :)
[04:13] <sproingie> xfs is pretty nice
[04:13] <shea> but there are interesting stories from render houses out there about ext3 vs xfs
[04:13] <shea> you have to take everything like that with a grain of salt, though
[04:13] <kdog> /echo -a irc server: | //echo -a $server
[04:13] <snoops> whyso, well, xfs is pretty well suited to very large files..dvd backups/movies..large files
[04:13] <clearzen> mdadm is not reconizing my raid devices. Is there any other programs/commands that work with raid arrays??
[04:13] <donburde> hello all... i was wondering if anyone has had the same problems as me.  runnis drake and i have a sony dvdrw, when i use blank dvd's everything is fine but if I use a double layer dvd, ubuntu recognizes it as a cdrom... any suggestions?
[04:13] <sproingie> reiser3 for zillions of small files, xfs for huge files
[04:13] <whyso> nice thats exacly what ill have alot of
[04:13] <Flannel> !tell clearzen about raid
[04:13] <sproingie> reiser4 for people who really didnt need their data anyway
[04:13] <snoops> a lot of media servers use xfs for that reason
[04:13] <whyso> it come defalut on ubun?
[04:14] <psusi> clearzen: if you built the raid with adm, then that's what you use to mess with it
[04:14] <shea> well, xfs has a few nifty features, like extents, realtime volumes, grouping of i/o ops, and good multi-process performance
[04:14] <snoops> heh, that's a bit harse sproingie
[04:14] <clearzen> i didn't build it with adm. What can I use?
[04:14] <shea> but, i can't say how it compares to filesystem x because i don't know much about any others
[04:14] <whyso> ah cool, how stable is it
[04:14] <psusi> clearzen: what DID you build it with?
[04:14] <shea> stable?
[04:14] <BinaryJay> sigh
[04:14] <whyso> data integrity
[04:15] <whyso> good right?
[04:15] <BinaryJay> sigh
[04:15] <shea> haven't had any issues, i dunno how to give you any concrete numbers though, heh
[04:15] <avagant> Sweet.
[04:15] <sproingie> i want a filesystem with snapshots
[04:15] <whyso> sorry jay im new to this whole thing :(
[04:15] <clearzen> psusi: the server I bought automaticly helped me set up the arrays. So I guess the bios of the machine.
[04:15] <psusi> you can do snapshots with any filesystem using LVM
[04:15] <sproingie> psusi: not necessarily quickly
[04:15] <ScurveyFrog> hi! quick question for anyone who knows: what is the g++ option to compile a library (.a file)?
[04:15] <DaveyJ> i'm about to install kubuntu on the box i'm currently building.. its a p4 prescott (64 bit) -- so do i get the regular x86 release or what?
[04:16] <psusi> clearzen: is it a real hardware raid or a fakeraid?  does linux see one drive, or each individual drive?  is this sata/ide or scsi?
[04:16] <shea> all filesystems are vulnerable to data loss no matter how advanced, though.
[04:16] <sproingie> ScurveyFrog: just use -o foo.a and g++ will figure it out
[04:16] <ScurveyFrog> sproingie: thanks!
[04:16] <BinaryJay> DaveyJ: I recommend everyone use the -generic kernel in ubuntu until further notice.
[04:16] <clearzen> it is real hardware and it is sata/ide
[04:16] <BinaryJay> Flame on
[04:16] <Madpilot> back - someone pinged me?
[04:16] <DaveyJ> okay :)
[04:17] <Phuzion> Haha, I have to reboot now so I can use my 17 year old serial mouse, bbl
[04:17] <psusi> clearzen: does linux see each individual drive in the array?  or just not see it at all?
[04:17] <DaveyJ> not even that 686 kernel?
[04:17] <whyso> thanx for help shea
[04:17] <dsnyders> HI all.  Is there a ls command to list only the directories, like dir /a:d does  in DOS?
[04:17] <BinaryJay> DaveyJ: The generic kernel IS the 686 kernel, I believe.  At least in Edgy it is.
[04:17] <clearzen> psusi: It sees one big drive for both arrays. One is raid 0 (4 drives) the other is raid 3
[04:17] <psusi> dsnyders: man ls
[04:17] <shea> whyso, np.  my advice though -- do a bit of your own research too, then make your decision :)
[04:18] <psusi> clearzen: ahh, good.... then what's the problem?
[04:18] <psusi> and what do you mean raid3?  there's no such animal?
[04:18] <clearzen> They are both the same size. without labels. So i don't know which array is raid 0 and which is raid 3 ><
[04:18] <BinaryJay> There is a discussion somewhere recent in the ubuntu edgy forums about 64-bit support you can look up.
[04:19] <whyso> would using a 5gb swap help much? i have enough space
[04:19] <effie_jayx> has anyone gotten SVG to work on firefox?
[04:19] <tritium> whyso: nope
[04:19] <fdsd> hey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?
[04:19] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, most SVG works OK; some parts still aren't supported
[04:19] <tritium> whyso: anything beyond 2GB is overkill
[04:20] <dsnyders> psusi, man ls doesn't seem to say so
[04:20] <whyso> k
[04:20] <effie_jayx> Madpilot, could you try a URL to see if it works on your box?
[04:20] <psusi> clearzen: there are raid 0, 1, 4 ( crap, not used ), 5, and 6.... not sure what you mean by raid 3... but the bios should give some indication as to which volume is the first drive and which is the second...
[04:20] <Ediehow> ok, i think ubuntu firewall may be on
[04:20] <BinaryJay> Q:  Why on earth is my apache2 insisting on serving out from /htdocs, when this folder (off root) is NOT in any of my configuration files...
[04:21] <El_Lapi-Zero> Hello!
[04:21] <Ediehow> cuz i can't ssh from remote host to it
[04:21] <Ediehow> and
[04:21] <Ediehow> i can't ftp to it
[04:21] <tritium> Ediehow: did you install the ssh server?
[04:21] <BinaryJay> Edie, sudo apt-get install firestarter
[04:21] <Ediehow> Trinisan: ssh localhost works
[04:21] <clearzen> psusi: The second array has two drives that appear as one partition and a single drive for backup information.
[04:21] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, sure - what is it?
[04:21] <BinaryJay> Use firestarter to add an exception to port 22
[04:21] <sproingie> dsnyders: find . -type d -maxdepth 1
[04:21] <Ediehow> BinaryJay: so does that mean firewall is on
[04:22] <Ediehow> ?
[04:22] <effie_jayx> Madpilot,  http://www.tomjewett.com/dbdesign/dbdesign.php?page=intro.html&imgsize=medium
[04:22] <Ediehow> i mean, the router has dmz set up
[04:22] <El_Lapi-Zero> Alguien puede darme una ayuda con mi grub
[04:22] <BinaryJay> if you're accessing through the internet, then yes
[04:22] <psusi> clearzen: the first array should be /dev/sda
[04:22] <effie_jayx> El_Lapi-Zero,  que paso con tu grub
[04:22] <BinaryJay> Ediehow:  try ssh you@localhost
[04:22] <Ediehow> ok, so once firestarter is installed, what is necessary?
[04:22] <tritium> Ediehow: did you install the ssh server?  There is no firewall setup by default.
[04:22] <ozzy> Ediehow Not really. You need config the firestarter for your own use.
[04:22] <tritium> !es
[04:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:22] <El_Lapi-Zero> effie_jayx:
 Ediehow: did you install the ssh server?  There is no firewall setup by default.
[04:22] <Ediehow> <-- ferger has quit ("Leaving")
[04:22] <Ediehow> ok, so is there firewall or not?
[04:23] <effie_jayx> El_Lapi-Zero,  let's go to that channel #ubuntu-es
[04:23] <psusi> dsnyders: try find
[04:23] <Ediehow> ssh IP times out
[04:23] <ozzy> Ediehow Yes.
[04:23] <BinaryJay> If you can "ssh you@localhost" or "ssh you@Ubuntu" but you can't ssh over the internet then you need to open port 22.
[04:23] <dream> hi all
[04:23] <tritium> Ediehow: not unless you configure it.  Please answer my question about installing ssh server.
[04:23] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, it looks fine in both FF & Opera 9.02 - which part is supposed to be SVG?
[04:23] <Ediehow> i told you ssh was installed
[04:23] <Ediehow> server
[04:23] <Ediehow> that's why i can do ssh localhost
[04:23] <BinaryJay> He wants to know, did you apt-get install ssh
[04:23] <Ediehow> yes
[04:23] <dream> anyone know when edgy eft would be release the stable version?
[04:23] <Ediehow> yes
[04:23] <effie_jayx> Madpilot,  all the UML diagrams on the site
[04:23] <Ediehow> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:23] <BinaryJay> if you can ssh localhost but not over the internet then install firestarter and add port 22 as an incoming exception
[04:23] <effie_jayx> Madpilot,  I can't see them on Firefox...
[04:23] <BinaryJay> then you'll be fine
[04:23] <tritium> Ediehow: ah, you told Tristan, not me.
[04:23] <tritium> Didn't see that.
[04:24] <Ediehow> oh sorry
[04:24] <clearzen> psusi: I thought so but I wanted to make sure. I"m going to backup the data and put in bigger hdd's. So I wanted to make sure I backedup the right info. Thank you for your help.
[04:24] <psusi> Ediehow: unless you set up a firewall, there isn't one... maybe your router or ISP is blocking incoming connections?
[04:24] <effie_jayx> Madpilot,  http://www.tomjewett.com/dbdesign/dbdesign.php?page=class.php&imgsize=medium
[04:24] <dream> who knows when ubuntu 6.10  would be release the stable version? not the beta version?
[04:24] <ozzy> dream Well, very soon we told. Checkout at www.ubuntu.com
[04:24] <MrKeuner> Which one is official?: "Ubuntu Linux" or "Ubuntu GNU/Linux"
[04:24] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, neither can I, in either FF or Opera. I think the trouble is that "Adobe SVG" does not equal "Real SVG as understood by newer browsers"
[04:24] <basilf> How can I get root access besides sudo su I want ot copy a dir to a root dir and I can't
[04:24] <Ediehow> ok, so after i install firestarter, what is necessary(i am telling somoene this over the phone)  do they add those ports for firestarter?
[04:24] <Ediehow> and how do they add more ports to sshd_config in ubuntu?
[04:24] <Madpilot> basilf, just use sudo mv
[04:24] <Ediehow> 23, 20
[04:24] <BinaryJay> psusi:  There is a "firewall", firestarter is not a firewall in itself it just sets up the ipchains
[04:24] <ozzy> dream or better, we think.
[04:24] <Ediehow> err at least 23
[04:25] <dream> ozzloy: thanks :) , in a week ?
[04:25] <BinaryJay> Ubuntu doesn't need to set any restrictive ipchains by default (hence missing any firewall configuration UI) because it does not by default expose any external services.
[04:25] <psusi> BinaryJay: true
[04:25] <Ediehow> BinaryJay: ok, with firestarter, what is necessary?
[04:25] <basilf> Is there like a quick reference guide for ubuntu I am used to SUSE
[04:25] <ricanelite> Hello all, I have a question for you!
[04:25] <psusi> Ediehow: undo what you did to set it up in the first place
[04:25] <Ediehow> ok, where is sshd_config? i want sshd running on 22 and 23
[04:26] <ozzy> dream possibly
[04:26] <ricanelite> Why when I head over to change my Screen Resolution there is no option for me
[04:26] <Ediehow> psusi: ? all i did was sudo apt-get install sshd
[04:26] <jrib> basilf: help.ubuntu.com has a starter guide
[04:26] <dream> ozzloy: thanks ozzy :)
[04:26] <psusi> Ediehow: I was referign to firestarter
[04:26] <BinaryJay> In firestarter, go to the policy tab, where it says allow service, add a rule, for port 22, for everyone
[04:26] <ricanelite> I'm running Ubuntu Linux for Apple Mac
[04:26] <BinaryJay> apply rule
[04:26] <ozzy> dream you're welcome
[04:26] <BinaryJay> done
[04:26] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, I'd email the author of that website, and ask him to redo his diagrams in something other than Adobe SVG.. note that according to Adobe's own SVG Plugin page, they're discontinuing support for it in Jan 1 2007
[04:26] <Ediehow> ok BinaryJay
[04:26] <oidia> how do i reload glftpd.conf?
[04:26] <ricanelite> anyone could help me please!
[04:26] <tritium> basilf: also, see System->Help for lots of docs too
[04:26] <Ediehow> hold sec
[04:26] <psusi> Ediehow: if you never used firestarter to add restrictions, then there aren't any by default
[04:27] <Ediehow> so does that mean i still need to open port 22 on the machine itself?
[04:27] <BinaryJay> First of all, after you have firestarter running, try to access your ssh server and you should see it pick up an event that says your request was blocked
[04:27] <basilf> FRom what I can see ubuntu is 100x better than SUSE even after a year printing was a prayer in ubuntu it just works
[04:27] <oidia> i cant find where to restart glftpf, ?
[04:27] <BinaryJay> I think we're all assuming that you're running firestarter on the machine you want to serve ssh from here.
[04:27] <Ediehow> firestarter needs to be running when that happens, right?
[04:27] <BinaryJay> firestarter only needs to be run to change your policy
[04:27] <BinaryJay> it does not need to be running after that
[04:28] <AngryElf> how can I reset my alsa mixe settings to defalt?
[04:28] <ozzy> Ediehow Well, it depends. If you need more security or your policy is going to be relate for some more restricted... then, yes.
[04:28] <bimberi> ubotu tell ricanelite about fixres
[04:28] <BinaryJay> It's really braindead simple to open port 22 using firestarter
[04:29] <Ediehow> ok
[04:29] <Ediehow> waiting for the guy to call me back
[04:29] <Flannel> BinaryJay: er, you don't need to
[04:29] <basilf> However can't get wine to work there is no debian install for it I like MIRC and used under wine can you help
[04:30] <Flannel> basilf: wine is in the repositories
[04:30] <BinaryJay> but have fun setting up your ssh key pairs on your own hehe
[04:30] <Ediehow> i know hwo to do all that
[04:30] <basilf> I included the link for it but nothing was installed
[04:30] <mattman> anyone--i'm a total newbie to both IRC and Ubuntu---I've downloaded the desktop CD and it won't work on my Dell dimension L667...it starts and says : Loading browser, then it disappears and never restarts...can anyone help?
[04:31] <man_id_unknown> Does Linux support batch files?
[04:31] <BinaryJay> man_id_unknown: ... change the word batch file to shell script then yes.
[04:31] <Sir_Brizz> no
[04:31] <effie_jayx> Hey guys... I have two harddrives... I installed Ubuntu and later I installed windows...
[04:31] <man_id_unknown> BinaryJay: How do I create one to execute the comman "fbc construct.bas -w 1" ?
[04:31] <effie_jayx> the installation erased the mbr and I tried to fix it with the live cd
[04:32] <basilf> What is the depository link mine might be wrong
[04:32] <effie_jayx> and I thought it did  but now grub doesn't boot eigther of them
[04:32] <physicsnick> dear #ubuntu, i accidentally deleted /etc/inetd.conf
[04:32] <BinaryJay> man_id_unknown:  create a file, put #!/bin/bash
[04:32] <physicsnick> is this a terribly important file? is there a way to undelete it? can someone with kubuntu pastebin theirs for me?
[04:33] <sureshot> hey all i have a usb 2.0 to sata adapter here.. i was wondering how do scan the usb devices to see if it is even seen then how do i format it and such
[04:33] <BinaryJay> then stick the command under it, run it with sh yourfile
[04:33] <ACETACE> quick question... console shell problem... i setup my ubuntu console shell color nicely so everything fit... when i ssh to my school server (yes i'm still in university.... struggleing to complete my degree) all the sudden i realized the color does not work so well anymore.... what should i do? is there setting on school/home i need to enforce?
[04:33] <bawnpa> it not terribly important if you're not relying on inetd
[04:33] <mattman> Hello...am i being rude to interrupt? is there another channel I should find? can anyone help? - - - - - - - - --:29]  <mattman> anyone--i'm a total newbie to both IRC and Ubuntu---I've downloaded the desktop CD and it won't work on my Dell dimension L667...it starts and says : Loading browser, then it disappears and never restarts...can anyone help?
[04:33] <BinaryJay> sureshot use "lsmod"
[04:33] <man_id_unknown> BinaryJay: Yes, let me try. Thank you.
[04:33] <sureshot> thanks
[04:33] <BinaryJay> actually...
[04:33] <effie_jayx> A master in IDE 1 y IDE 2 .. THE IDE 1 is the hda k  Win2 .. y el IDE 2 is  the hdc k / linux ..
[04:34] <effie_jayx> no luck booting any of them :(
[04:34] <ACETACE> mattman, does the live cd work on your computer?
[04:34] <mOrO^> Flannel : YO! I have ONE hard drive, with a C and D drive... can I just install Ub on the letter I want? And if I can, how is boot up handled?
[04:34] <mattman> ACETACE - it starts and then stops...it won't get past the splash screen that says, "browser loding" so...no it doesn't
[04:34] <ACETACE> mattman, i'm new to ubuntu as well... just a suggestion >_< hope it will help
[04:35] <ACETACE> mattman, i was fortunate enough for ubuntu to install automatically on my computer >_<.... hope it will hlep
[04:35] <bawnpa> physicsnick,  my inetd.conf is empty, inetd.conf will be different for everyone based on if they are using it to manage their sockets or not
[04:35] <mOrO^> ACETACE; give ya twenty bucks for that computer :)
[04:35] <basilf> So anyone have the proper link to install wine?
[04:36] <BinaryJay> lsmod | grep usb,   it'll show that you have the usb modules loaded but I'm actually not sure how to scan the usb bus... anybody else?
[04:36] <physicsnick> bawnpa, i see, that's a relief thanks
[04:36] <sureshot> i dont think my usb is working at all how do i tell is lsmod the only way i did not see any refference there
[04:36] <physicsnick> now i have another question
[04:36] <BinaryJay> sureshot: check lsmod | grep usb
[04:36] <physicsnick> i set up svnserve in xinetd, but it doesn't work
[04:36] <Ediehow> how do you run firestarter once it is installed?
[04:36] <physicsnick> i followed a variety of different tutorials, they all say the same and none of them work
[04:36] <BinaryJay> sureshot: you should see modules loaded for usbhid, usb_storage, and the most important usbcore loaded
[04:36] <physicsnick> Ediehow, gksudo firestarter
[04:36] <Ediehow> sudo firestarter?
[04:37] <sureshot> thanks
[04:37] <Ediehow> ok, they are running firestarter
[04:37] <physicsnick> does anyone else have snvserve set up to boot in xinetd?
[04:37] <BinaryJay> Ediehow: Firestarter will be placed in your gnome System menu -> Administration
[04:37] <babo> where's the little desktop widget that allows me to enter in various characters that aren't on my keyboard >
[04:37] <babo> ?
[04:37] <bimberi> mattman: Is there is a boot menu option for "Check CD for defects"?  If so give that a try
[04:37] <BinaryJay> sureshot:  if usbcore is not showing up in your lsmod list, try doing a modprobe usbcore
[04:37] <_aasics_> babo, Applications/Accessories/CharacterMap
[04:38] <bawnpa> basilf, PM
[04:38] <ACETACE> mOrO^: it was a computer of older model... so i guess it worked well without having to get new linux drivers and stuff, i think that's where most people had problems on lol...
[04:38] <babo> _aasics_, thanks ...
[04:38] <Ediehow> they are running firestarter setup now, and i am trying to ssh in, but they are getting no prompt
[04:38] <ACETACE> anybody have any idea on my console color problem? or should i advertise it again?
[04:38] <basilf> PM, what?
[04:38] <sureshot> ok i see usbcor usb_storage and scsi_mod but the device is not listed i bet this think is going to be a stinker to work in linux
[04:38] <mOrO^> ACETACE: heheh, Im downloading this thing and gonna see if I can install it.
[04:38] <_aasics_> babo, or, on the Gnome-Panel, right click; add to panel; Utilities/Character Pallete
[04:38] <Mahdi_> anybody knows how to make apache2 show index.php and index.htm when they are present on a visited dir automatically?
[04:39] <sureshot> ok it is a new drive most likely not even partition how do i mount it and how do i partition and format it
[04:39] <babo> _assics_: I can't find the euro on it ...
[04:39] <_aasics_> babo, which one did you end up using?
[04:39] <BinaryJay> exit
[04:39] <BinaryJay> whoops
[04:39] <Ediehow> where is the sshd config file so that i can have it run on port 23 as well?
[04:39] <Ediehow> BinaryJay: they are prompted for ftp but not ssh
[04:39] <babo> _assics_: character map. I'm looking in Latin
[04:40] <mOrO^> Can I just install this OS on a hard drive that has a c and d . And if I can ..how is booting up handled?
[04:40] <bawnpa> <IfModule mod_dir.c>  DirectoryIndex index.php index.htm </IfModule>
[04:40] <ACETACE> quick question... console shell problem... i setup my ubuntu console shell color nicely so everything fit... when i ssh to my school server (yes i'm still in university.... struggleing to complete my degree) all the sudden i realized the color does not work so well anymore.... what should i do? is there setting on school/home i need to enforce?
[04:40] <BinaryJay> Ediehow: I don't know what they're expecting to be prompted about, in the events tab if the firewall on the system is preventing you from connecting it will show an event and what port is being blocked by you.
[04:40] <mattman> bimberi  - thanks, but i'm not even sure what you're asking...that's how new I am at this...should it give me 'boot options'? when?
[04:40] <BinaryJay> blocked TO you
[04:40] <tritium> mOrO^: yes, you can install it on different drives, or even just separate partitions.  The bootloader will help you at boot choose with OS to boot into.
[04:40] <Ediehow> BinaryJay: ok, theya re prompted when i try to ftp in, but not ssh in
[04:40] <_aasics_> babo, Use the Search function
[04:40] <Ediehow> so where is the sshd config file so i can tell it to also run on port 21 and 23
[04:41] <_aasics_> babo, (Ctrl+F)
[04:41] <tritium> Ediehow: should be under /etc/ somewere
[04:41] <mOrO^> tritium: you make it sound easy. :)
[04:41] <tritium> somewhere, even
[04:41] <tritium> mOrO^: the installer does make it quite easy
[04:41] <ellioTb> _aasics_, hey, what do you use as a GUI for wpasupplicants
[04:41] <ellioTb> cause my school, they don't give you a certificate
[04:41] <_aasics_> ellioTb, wpa_gui
[04:41] <Ediehow> sshd_config, right?
[04:41] <ellioTb> i think you download it
[04:41] <babo> _assics_: aha ... cheers dude ... :->
[04:41] <mOrO^> tritium: ok, Im downloading now...anything else I should know before embarking?
[04:42] <_aasics_> babo, no problem
[04:42] <babo> :-)
[04:42] <ellioTb> _aasics_, that gives me some ping error, and doesn't show anything, kinda hangs
[04:42] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I don't use the gui to configure it though
[04:42] <ellioTb> _aasics_, do i need to start the supplicant first?
[04:42] <_aasics_> ellioTb, i just use it to monitor the connection
[04:42] <mOrO^> tritium: I do know what equipment is on this puter.
[04:42] <_aasics_> ellioTb, yes
[04:42] <tritium> mOrO^: not sure what to suggest
[04:42] <ellioTb> _aasics_, kwlan was working nice, just don't know if it will work cause i get the certificate on connect
[04:43] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I've never used kwlan
[04:43] <mOrO^> tritium: Is the installer more or less guide ya through it all?
[04:43] <_aasics_> ellioTb, how are you trying to start wpa_supplicant?
[04:43] <rbil> DirectoryIndex index.shtml index.html index.php  ... order is important
[04:43] <LOLZebra> tell me
[04:43] <ellioTb> _aasics_, i dunno how, lol
[04:43] <tritium> mOrO^: mostly
[04:43] <Ediehow> how to restart sshd in ubuntu?
[04:43] <mOrO^> tritium: Well, Im committed to this, Im gonna go for it.
[04:43] <_aasics_> ellioTb, here's mine
[04:44] <ellioTb> _aasics_, this is all i have to work with http://www.tr.txstate.edu/css/wireless/encrypted-wireless.htm
[04:44] <tritium> Ediehow: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[04:44] <ACETACE> quick question... console shell problem... i setup my ubuntu console shell color nicely so everything fit... when i ssh to my school server (yes i'm still in university.... struggleing to complete my degree) all the sudden i realized the color does not work so well anymore.... is this a configuration on my local machine console or configuration on my school console? what should i do?
[04:44] <ellioTb> ACETACE, i dunno, but i am still in college too :P
[04:45] <tritium> ACETACE: did you log off the university machine?
[04:45] <_aasics_> ellioTb, wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -Dwext -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf &
[04:45] <_aasics_> ellioTb, wpa_supplicant -i<interface> -D<driver> -c<configuration file>
[04:45] <tritium> ACETACE: type "reset" in your terminal window, and see if that helps (assuming you've logged off)
[04:46] <ACETACE> ellioTb and tritium, the problem is when i log onto the school server using ssh, i appear to be using a different set of colorscheme with the same background (black)
[04:46] <ajmitch> lewing: /win 21
[04:46] <e> 5
[04:46] <ajmitch> hm, wrong win
[04:46] <ellioTb> _aasics_, no idea what driver, lemme look at my config
[04:46] <ACETACE> ellioTb and tritium, i guess my question is whether if there is a method to syncronize both? or configure them to be the same?
[04:47] <_aasics_> ellioTb, if you do man wpa_supplicant, it will list available drivers
[04:47] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I used ndiswrapper for mine; and it translates to wext for wpa_supplicant
[04:47] <berto-> Hi everyone.  Has anyone gotten iFolder running on dapper?  I'm having trouble authenticating to the simias server.
[04:48] <ellioTb> _aasics_, if the school gives me the certificate on connect, will it still work?
[04:48] <man_id_unknown> how to I move a file using the terminal?
[04:48] <samuel> How do you restore Grub to the orginal configuration? I changed something now it has an error...
[04:48] <samuel> i dual boot XP/ubuntu
[04:48] <_aasics_> ellioTb, is there anyway to get the certificate from them?
[04:48] <Madpilot> man_id_unknown, "mv"
[04:49] <ellioTb> _aasics_, no, they are not linux friendly
[04:49] <_aasics_> ellioTb, can you go to your system admin and get it?
[04:49] <_aasics_> ellioTb, have you tried?
[04:49] <man_id_unknown> Madpilot: mv <here> <there> ?
[04:49] <tritium> samuel: did you save a backup before you edited it?
[04:49] <ellioTb> nah, i just now figured out i needed one
[04:49] <ACETACE> man_id_unknown, use the command "mv (source) (destination)" type "man mv" for details? does that help?
[04:49] <Madpilot> man_id_unknown, yes
[04:49] <man_id_unknown> AceTace: Yes
[04:49] <THX-1138> !grub
[04:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:49] <_aasics_> ellioTb, well, you might start a new trend;  you never know, and it never hurts to ask
[04:49] <man_id_unknown> Madpilot: Thank you ;)
[04:49] <ellioTb> i can get on the unsecured network, just the signal isn't as strong, and i dont think i can get on the network servers there
[04:49] <ellioTb> _aasics_, yeah, maybe i can get it and write a tutorial for other linux users @ school
[04:50] <ellioTb> everyone in my dept owns a mac
[04:50] <ellioTb> i roll in with my fujistu xubuntu lappy
[04:50] <samuel> yes I saved a backup
[04:50] <samuel> how do i restore from backup
[04:50] <samuel> please
[04:50] <_aasics_> ellioTb, convince them that macs (unix based) are basically the same as linux
[04:50] <tritium> samuel: copy the backup over the modified file
[04:50] <ellioTb> _aasics_, for the xp and mac tutorial, looks like you get the cer from them when you connect
[04:50] <_aasics_> ellioTb, and that you aren't the black sheep, but rather the attractive cousin everyone secretly wants to fuck
[04:50] <ellioTb> i wonder if it will work the same
[04:50] <ellioTb> lol
[04:51] <ellioTb> ROFL
[04:51] <Madpilot> _aasics_, language, thanks.
[04:51] <samuel> what is the file name?
[04:51] <ellioTb> Madpilot, it was perfect though
[04:51] <tritium> _aasics_: language!
[04:51] <_aasics_> sorry, guys
[04:52] <ellioTb> _aasics_, gotta love the people that catch you 10 hours later
[04:52] <ACETACE> tritium, i AM logged into ssh in to my school server, and i intend to do so,  i guess my question is whether if there is a method to syncronize both color scheme on my ubuntu and on school server so i do not have to change colorscheme when i'm on/off the servers? or configure them to be the same?
[04:52] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I think they were too busy laughing
[04:52] <ellioTb> haha, i was too busy thinking about my cousin
[04:52] <tritium> ACETACE: via ssh?  Only your local setting should matter.
[04:52] <_aasics_> haha
[04:52] <ellioTb> thats why it was so funny
[04:52] <MrKeuner> hi, Which one is official?: "Ubuntu Linux" or "Ubuntu GNU/Linux"
[04:52] <w30> samuel, to restore one backed up file just sudo cat backup.file > current.file  Use the right file names.
[04:52] <tritium> _aasics_, ellioTb: please stay on topic
[04:53] <ellioTb> _aasics_, so anyways, any idea whether i can receive the certificate when i connect
[04:53] <_aasics_> tritium, sorry, our cousins are just really attractive
[04:53] <tritium> samuel: cp also works
[04:53] <ellioTb> lol
[04:53] <jffry> hello! is there anybody can teach where to find the driver for creative webcam pd1100?
[04:53] <samuel> what is the file name?
[04:53] <samuel> lol
[04:53] <bushblows> does anyone in here have any exsperience in setting up synergy in ubuntu, or know of a good guide?
[04:53] <_aasics_> ellioTb, i'm not really sure
[04:53] <samuel> i followed something online to back it up I cant remember what it was called
[04:53] <tritium> samuel: you tell us.  You're the one that made the backup
[04:53] <_aasics_> ellioTb, my school is pretty friendly towards linux users
[04:53] <tristezo2k> Hi... I have a 6.06 LTS obtained from shipip. Installing on my lap a second time it hangs at 76%, 1:35 remaining... is it a known bug?
[04:53] <ellioTb> _aasics_, i guess i'll find out tomorrow when i try to connect
[04:53] <samuel> /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup
[04:53] <bushblows> nm
[04:54] <samuel> found it ..thank you
[04:54] <ACETACE> tritum, somhow when i ssh into my school server i get a darker set of color when i do "ls" and when i do "vim" i also get a darker set of colorscheme that does not fit my black background... am i doing something wrong?
[04:54] <ellioTb> _aasics_, yeah, mine hates them apparently, prolly cause all tx schools are shacked up with dell
[04:54] <tritium> ACETACE: I can't explain that.  That's odd.
[04:54] <w30> samuel, with cp watch your ownership and permissions, cp -p preserves those from the backedup file if you have that right to start with.
[04:54] <ACETACE> tritum i checked my .vimrc and find no colorscheme on too.... humm weird... anywys if i come across a solution i'll let you know thanks tritum
[04:55] <nomin> what is the command to open a link in firefox in a new tab?  I want to set a command in xchat to open links in a new tab.
[04:55] <THX-1138> Hi tritium.
[04:56] <tritium> hi THX-1138
[04:56] <ellioTb> _aasics_, i am just gonna email them a request for the certificate and see if i get lucky
[04:56] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I'm at UT Dallas
[04:56] <fuffalo> in this howto: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation it says: "Unless you're using one of the MCE edition cards, chances are you'll want to run MythTV using your remote. To do this, you'll need to Install LIRC"  - why wouldn't you install LIRC if you had an MCE Card
[04:57] <_aasics_> ellioTb, sounds like a good idea; you're probably looking for a file of "verisign.pem" but that's just a guess
[04:57] <_aasics_> ellioTb, its what my school used
[04:57] <tristezo2k> Hi... I have a 6.06 LTS obtained from shipip. Installing on my lap a second time it hangs at 76%, 1:35 remaining... is it a known bug? sorry for bothering...
[04:58] <Paulo-39> #Coroas
[04:58] <slavik> tristezo2k: I would say no ... but then I also don't know what it is doing at that stage
[04:58] <tristezo2k> slavik: thanks.
[04:58] <tritium> tristezo2k: hard to say what's causing that.  It's not a common occurence, or it would have been dealt with.
[04:59] <crimsun> tristezo2k: the symptoms read like one of several known issues, yes. Please try the updated desktop 6.06.1 LTS installer that contains numerous fixes.
[04:59] <jffry> anybody can help me find a driver for creative webcam vista?
[04:59] <ricanelite> Need Help installing Eastubuntu, I type in       dpkg -i Desktop/easyubuntu.deb
[04:59] <ricanelite>  and i get dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[04:59] <sureshot> how do i partition format and mount a usb drive device manager sees it
[04:59] <slavik> ricanelite: you forgot sudo :D
[04:59] <tristezo2k> crimsun: tritium thanks. I will try he new installer.
[04:59] <tritium> ricanelite: sudo dpkg -i ...
[05:00] <tritium> tristezo2k: yeah, forgot about that .1 release
[05:00] <ellioTb> _aasics_, we'll see if they know what they are doing, email sent
[05:00] <ricanelite> after I type it in       dpkg -i Desktop/easyubuntu.deb
[05:00] <ricanelite> ?
[05:00] <ellioTb> _aasics_, i visited UTD, was thinking about being a computer science major there years ago
[05:00] <tritium> ricanelite: sudo goes before all that
[05:00] <_aasics_> ellioTb, its what I am now
[05:00] <tristezo2k> Is there a way to install in text mode as in the old days? :
[05:01] <tristezo2k> Or the debian way..
[05:01] <ellioTb> _aasics_, i liked their program, but ended up going to A&M instead, then transfered to txstate
[05:01] <slavik> tristezo2k: the alternate cd
[05:01] <tritium> ellioTb, _aasics_ : again, please stay on topic
[05:01] <ellioTb> _aasics_, you know anything about getting on mac networks through linux?
[05:01] <tritium> tristezo2k: yes!  The alternate install image
[05:01] <tristezo2k> ok,I just received a single i386 live/install cd.
[05:02] <tristezo2k> at lilo promp?
[05:02] <romans5n1> not sure if this is the right place to ask, but maybe I'll get lucky: trying to play embedded video in FF1.5.0.7 under Unbuntu Dapper... got mplayer installed, all the additional codecs, mpg files play embedded but wmv still pops up a save as dialog... any ideas?
[05:02] <_aasics_> tritium, we are on the topic of networking through ubuntu
[05:02] <tritium> tristezo2k: it's a separate download
[05:02] <_aasics_> tritium, we were merely comparing setups
[05:03] <_aasics_> ellioTb, no, unfortunately not;  i haven't had any experience in it
[05:03] <ellioTb> i know, like 1 sentence was a little off, we'll try harder next time michael
[05:03] <ricanelite> THANK YOU!!! TRITIUM!!!
[05:03] <tritium> ricanelite: sure :)
[05:03] <ellioTb> _aasics_, thats my next goal, since all the comps in my graphic design dept are macs, been trying for a while to read up on getting onto that network
[05:03] <tristezo2k> tritium: ok, thanks for your help. I will log the install to a remote machine, and see what is going wrong.
[05:04] <wizard> I'm looking for an open-office invoice template that's compatible with microsoft word.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[05:04] <tritium> tristezo2k: did you find the alternate install image?
[05:04] <_aasics_> ellioTb, let me know how it goes
[05:04] <tristezo2k> Have a link at hand?
[05:05] <cod> is there any way to make panel icons larger than 48 pixels?
[05:05] <tritium> tristezo2k: same page where you download the liveCD/installer
[05:06] <jffry> need help for webcam installation. is there anybody who can help me?
[05:06] <DemisM> how do I use wpa2 ?
[05:06] <tristezo2k> tritium: here I see a 6.06.1 Is this what you suggest?
[05:06] <tritium> tristezo2k: yes.
[05:07] <DemisM> is there wpa2 support for wireless?
[05:07] <tristezo2k> tritium: thanks.... seems my cd is broken, The cd test hanged :-S
[05:07] <tristezo2k> It will download this. And now, that I see I will not lend any more cds :-S
[05:07] <ellioTb> DemisM, yes i think, using wpasupplicants
[05:07] <ACETACE> tritum, i think i figured it out... in the ubuntu console current profile under colours tab platte 1-8 appears to be for ssh use only (where all the text are _not_ bolded as well).. and platte 9-16 is for local console use only (where text are bolded), i changed both plattes to be the same and solved the problem thanx again
[05:07] <ellioTb> err supplicant
[05:07] <tritium> tristezo2k: :)
[05:08] <cod> is there any way to make panel icons larger than 48 pixels?
[05:08] <tritium> ACETACE: cool, glad you figured it out
[05:08] <slavik> cod: make the panel larger ;)
[05:08] <cod> doesn't seem to work
[05:09] <DemisM> k thx :)
[05:09] <cod> um... what I should have asked, is how to make DRAWER icons bigger than 48 pixels
[05:10] <Flannel> mOrO^: You install to the partition you want, yes.  Linux doesn't quite use the same drive lettering.  And, grub handles the boot, you'll be asked to boot one or other other, etc
[05:11] <sureshot> what is a good graphical pattion software that will read usb devices
[05:11] <DemisM> after i install xserver-xorg-input-fpit  do i need to do anything or should my pen work?
[05:12] <ellioTb> anyone had any luck mounting shares from OSX into linx?
[05:13] <mistform> lol.....
[05:13] <mistform> osx
[05:14] <mistform> in my experiences with it I deemed it "CSx"
[05:14] <mistform> Crash-system
[05:14] <sureshot> what is a good graphical pattion software that will read usb devices
[05:15] <ianmacgregor> What's the diff between userdel and deluser?
[05:15] <DemisM> hmm... how do i use wpasupplicant?
[05:15] <ellioTb> install it, then get kwlan
[05:15] <mdkaneda> anyone know anything about the screensaver "
[05:15] <mdkaneda> Electric Sheep
[05:15] <mOrO^> thanks for the help!
[05:15] <O2> hello
[05:15] <BigUglyJeep> @sureshot, chek out gparted
[05:16] <O2> I am using GNOME ubuntu, could I use KDE the same time?
[05:16] <unfknblvbl> how would i rename all the *.ico files to .bmp ?
[05:16] <sureshot> i thought i had that load BigUglyJeep it did not run i will double check that thanks
[05:16] <unfknblvbl> what batch command for console would i use ?
[05:16] <mdkaneda> anywho, i installed electric sheep from the apt-get repositories and i'm having issues. its saying "unable to resolve..." the server it's trying to download the "sheep" from
[05:17] <w30> ianmacgregor, looks to me like userdel deletes the user and his home files
[05:17] <BigUglyJeep> @O2 you can install KDE and GNOME on the same system and select the session on startup
[05:17] <aswp> yo
[05:17] <ksh`> hi
[05:18] <w30> ianmacgregor, and deluser just removes a user
[05:18] <unfknblvbl> !batch
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about batch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <sureshot> guess i did not have it loaded sorry to have botherd BigUglyJeep
[05:18] <unfknblvbl> !console
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <unfknblvbl> !terminal
[05:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:18] <O2> BigUglyJeep:  how to select pls?
[05:18] <ksh`> confidential
[05:18] <mdkaneda> !electricsheep
[05:18] <ubotu> electricsheep: screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.4-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2669 kB, installed size 3376 kB
[05:18] <ianmacgregor> w30: Ahh, ok, thanks
[05:18] <TreMobyl> !xserver-xgl
[05:18] <ubotu> xserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 1584 kB, installed size 4384 kB
[05:18] <BigUglyJeep> have you already installed kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:19] <TreMobyl> !r300
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r300 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <wastrel> hello
[05:19] <TreMobyl> !bzr
[05:19] <ubotu> bzr is Bazaar-NG, a decentralized revision control system designed to be easy for developers and end users alike. Decentralized revision control systems give people the ability to work over the internet using the bazaar development model.
[05:20] <TreMobyl> ubotu: tell the eft to gimme it back
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell the eft to gimme it back - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Celeste> hi
[05:20] <w30> !caffeine
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about caffeine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Celeste> !kaffeine
at the Login Screen click on session and choose which one you want
[05:20] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1.3ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 1528 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[05:20] <Celeste> @ w30
[05:20] <TreMobyl> !flash-nonfree
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Celeste> 1flash
[05:20] <Celeste> !flash
[05:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:21] <O2> when i apt-get some software, why will they add other software such as KDExxx to the download list
[05:21] <aswp> I'll think about it
[05:21] <TreMobyl> !bugone
[05:21] <w30> Celeste, w30 needs caffeine to stay awake :=)
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <tritium> O2: they're dependencies
[05:21] <ianmacgregor> Please don't play with the bot
[05:21] <salami> Hello
[05:21] <Cycne> hey
[05:21] <Celeste> heh I see
[05:21] <Celeste> salami, do you know what Salami means in german?
[05:21] <vilefridge> quick question...  I think I know the answer, but just would like to verify.  I have Xubuntu running in a RAID0 (striping) configuration and want to shut the PC down, disconnect the SATA cables, flip the motherboard over, and oil the northbridge fan a bit.  When I reconnect the drives and power the PC on, will the RAID array be ok?  Or will the volume have to be rebuilt/lose Xubuntu or anything crazy?
[05:21] <Celeste> salami, its a famous sausage here
[05:21] <tritium> Celeste: that's nice, but not on topic
[05:22] <Celeste> tritium, so what?
[05:22] <ianmacgregor> Celeste: Take off-topic stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:22] <TreMobyl> Celeste: busy channel, so should be on-topic.  Not that I'm not hypocritical, I'm just saying
[05:22] <Celeste> okay I accept that
[05:22] <Celeste> sorry for doing it wrong
[05:22] <sooki> i keep losing sound on the system, but works find in cedega, i think it's the limitation on oss, there a way to see what's using the single oss channel thing?
[05:23] <TreMobyl> sooki: lsof might work
[05:23] <mistform> vilefridge, I would imagine as long as you reconnect everything properly, it would automatically configure itself to the same old
[05:23] <mistform> so I don't see it as being a problem
[05:23] <tahorg> sooki: sudo lsof /dev/dsp
[05:23] <vilefridge> mistform: thanks :)
[05:24] <sooki> reports nothing? :P
[05:24] <TreMobyl> sooki: then nothing is reading /dev/dsp
[05:24] <TreMobyl> sooki: you might also 'sudo lsof | grep dsp' in case of multi dsp devices
[05:24] <sooki> great, so it's more of an issue than i thought :P
[05:24] <Dravas> Hey does anyone know of that awesome plugin for Windows Explorer that allows you to veiw EXt3 partitions
[05:24] <Dravas> I had it before
[05:24] <Dravas> but I forgot
[05:25] <TreMobyl> s/is reading/has open/
[05:25] <TreMobyl> possible that cedega is using alsa
[05:25] <w30> I can't get my remote print server to know it is finished a print job or tell my spool that it is finished printing. I have to cancel the print job to get the printer to go back to ready. Can anyone give me a tip or two?
[05:25] <sooki> nothin on that, either :P
[05:25] <TreMobyl> iirc, the newer version uses it by default, but I could well be wrong
[05:25] <mistform> vilefridge, the worst case scenario is for you to reconfigure it
[05:25] <lansing> how come my nicotine is downloadin so slow
[05:25] <sureshot> what is that kill command that turns your curser into a skull
[05:25] <Cycne> ?
[05:25] <moreon> sureshot: xkill ?
[05:25] <ianmacgregor> sureshot: xkill
[05:25] <sooki> would that cause problems with the system sounds?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Dravas,  google for 'windows ext2' and its like the first hit.. ext2 ifs for windows
[05:26] <sureshot> thanks forgot ianmacgregor
[05:26] <ianmacgregor> sureshot: You're welcome :)
[05:26] <grok> Can anyone tell me the what the only essential parts of a linux distro are? By that I mean what, besides the kernel, would i need to have a working OS?
[05:26] <vilefridge> mistform: reconfiguring it would incur a rebuild would it not?   I think you're right though.. disconnecting and reconnecting the drives shouldn't be a prob, as long as the system is in an off state.
[05:26] <TreMobyl> we need ubuntu stores like apple stores where you can bring your computer in for help
[05:26] <Dr_willis> grok,  a program.. like busybox to do the rest of the interface :) and thats about it.
[05:27] <TreMobyl> sooki: problems, no, but would explain (if everything else is configged to use oss which is broken but cedega is using alsa)
[05:27] <grok> Dr_willis: so i could just have the kernel and say, apt-get, and it would work (assuming i could get the network set up)
[05:27] <TreMobyl> seems like an unlikely scenario, though
[05:27] <tarelerulz> I updated my reporitories and I still can't get mplayer
[05:27] <Dr_willis> grok,  not likely.. apt-get is rather complex.
[05:27] <tarelerulz> anyone else have this happen to them
[05:27] <Dr_willis> grok,  and getting the network setuo would be more 'parts' :)
[05:27] <sooki> well the thing is that i had it working fine, and i get back from watching tv and i notice i have no sound :P
[05:28] <mistform> vilefridge, I'm not a linux expert, and I have never run RAID before (I'm using laptop) but as long as nothing is swapped out, then you shouldn't haev to worry
[05:28] <O2> coud I use KAddressBook in GNOME ?
[05:28] <mistform> but you may need a 2nd opinion lol
[05:28] <TreMobyl> sooki: is strange.  This is why an ubuntu store would be useful.  :)
[05:28] <ianmacgregor> O2: yes
[05:28] <grok> Dr_willis: lol well thank you, that's all i needed to know. I htink i might try it, simply to expand my linux knowledge
[05:28] <Dr_willis> grok,  go read up on 'busybox'
[05:28] <ianmacgregor> O2: In fact, there aren't many kde apps you can't use in gnome and vice-versa
[05:28] <Dr_willis> kernel+busybox = smallest systems  ive seen
[05:28] <O2> ianmacgregor:  really?
[05:28] <grok> Dr_willis: ok. thank you
[05:29] <TreMobyl> grok: you may also poke at "Linux From Scratch."  Not used it, but may be informative for you.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> I mixx and match kde + gnome all day long
[05:29] <vilefridge> mistform: RAID is picky at times.  In RAID1, a rebuild would occur if you disconnect either of the drives in the RAID volume.  I'm hoping RAID0 is different
[05:29] <fr33mind> Is ubuntu able to read UFS ?  (SCO file system)
[05:29] <tritium> fr33mind: yes
[05:29] <TreMobyl> sooki: good luck.  I need to hit the hay
[05:29] <grok> TreMobyl: i've had a look at that, but i haven't read it too in-depth.
[05:29] <wastrel> there does appear to be a UFS module in the kernel
[05:30] <fr33mind> I'm not sure SCO use UFS... but I need to read an SCO drive (v.5) from a live Ubuntu CD...
[05:30] <sooki> thanks
[05:30] <wastrel> i dunno about the livecd
[05:30] <fr33mind> So I ask before trying ;)
[05:30] <O2> ianmacgregor:  you mean apps on ubuntu can run both in kde and gnome, apps don't care about kde and gnome, right?
[05:30] <w30> grok, that question begs another? Does the OS have to do anything? besides boot?
[05:30] <sooki> the only game i've ran on it today was using oss
[05:31] <TreMobyl> sooki: it's possible that things were trying to use esd and it died, or something other that's weird.  I cannot know without digging deeper, and my brain is busy shutting down.  :(
[05:31] <ArrenLex> O2: applications are built on toolkits. As long as you have gtk libraries installed, you can run gtk apps on a qt system just fine. The desktop environment doesn't matter; it is itself a big application built on a toolkit.
[05:31] <grok> w30: well i was going to try to dabble with setting up a bare-bones OS, with just the stuff i wanted, and wondered if there were any more essentials (other than the kernel) that i would need. it's purely for fun
[05:32] <sooki> i'll figure it out, if not i'll just go back to coding and ask tomorrow :P
[05:32] <sooki> thanks though
[05:33] <O2> As I saw many apps such as  Kxxxx ,  GNOxxxx,  then I guesss they can only run on KDE, or GNOME
[05:33] <Boelcke> O2: another way of saying it would be, if you've got the KDE and Gnome stuff installed, you can run applications specific to one of them in either.
[05:34] <Madpilot> O2, no, Gnome apps can run on KDE, and vice versa. They'll just need to install all their depends & libs too
[05:34] <ArrenLex> O2: that's not true. It's just typical for applications built on the toolkit to use names corresponding to their desktop environments. As long as you have qt and some necessary libs installed, you can run k* fine.
[05:34] <O2> you mean the can run in both kde and gnome, right?
[05:34] <Boelcke> O2, for example, I use the GIMP in gnome, where it's native, yet I like Kdigicam for managing my photos.  It works just fine under gnome (though I've got all the kde stuff installed too)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> O2,  linux is all about layers :) X is a layer.. kde and gnome are layers on top of X.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> O2,  you can run konsole, and gnome-terminal both at the same time.
[05:34] <Boelcke> O2: so, if you didn't have the KDE stuff installed, you would NOT be able to run a K-application in gnome.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> O2,  you can run konquer as the file manager and drag/drop stuff into gnome-terminal as well.
[05:34] <ArrenLex> O2: I run firefox (gtk) and gimp(gtk) but use KDE(qt), for example.
[05:35] <amicrawle> what do i do for a probe and configure the hardware
[05:35] <Boelcke> ArrenLex, what's qt?
[05:35] <ArrenLex> O2: I'm just going to say your name 'cause it's the "in" thing.
[05:35] <ArrenLex> Qt toolkit is the graphics toolkit KDE is based on. Like gtk for gnome. Look at wikipedia if you want more.
[05:35] <O2> oh, oh, oh..................I am confused...........'
[05:35] <Boelcke> With all this O2 in the air, please, no lighting any matches!
[05:35] <DemisM> hmmm... how do i set up wpa2 on fresh install of dapper ubuntu?
[05:35] <ArrenLex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28toolkit%29
[05:35] <amicrawle> i got a phillips tv tuner card
[05:36] <amicrawle> i can hear sound no video
[05:36] <O2> ArrenLex:  thank you!  my name is oxygen
[05:36] <Dr_willis> 02 dont worry about it.. just DO it. :P and
[05:36] <Madpilot> O2, bottom line is, you can run any linux app on any linux desktop, pretty much.
[05:36] <sandy16> hi there
[05:36] <w30> grok, I see....
[05:36] <JavaDeveloper> Hi, I would like to know where do I set the default path for system? .bashrc is for my profile and what about root?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> JavaDeveloper,  the root user has a /root/.bashrc
[05:37] <amicrawle> what do i do for a probe and configure
[05:37] <amicrawle> what do i do for a probe and configure
[05:37] <JavaDeveloper> Dr_willis: thanks...
[05:37] <amicrawle> what do i do for a probe and configure
[05:37] <amicrawle> what do i do for a probe and configure
[05:37] <TreMobyl> JavaDeveloper: for the whole system is /etc/profile
[05:37] <sandy16> can any body help me to configure my serial mouse?
[05:37] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: /etc/bash.bashrc for system-wide config
[05:37] <JavaDeveloper> TreMobyl: that's what I really wanna know
[05:37] <TreMobyl> and now I *really* need to go to bed.  :)
[05:37] <ArrenLex> !repeat > amicrawle
[05:37] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: so...should I go to /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc?
[05:38] <O2> I can run KDE based and GNOME based apps under KDE or GNOME, as long as the apps's libs is installed
[05:38] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: even if you look at /etc/profile, you'll end up editing /etc/bash.bashrc
[05:38] <ArrenLex> TreMobyl: isn't the $PATH in /etc/environment?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> O2,  bingo.. gold star.
[05:38] <effie_jayx> a cool app that was originally for KDE and it works OK on Gnome is Amarok
[05:39] <Madpilot> O2, exactly - and Synaptic/apt-get is intelligent enough to install those extra libraries if they aren't already there
[05:39] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: okay...I just want to set $JAVA_HOME for system-wide environment, so I should go to /etc/bash.bashrc right?
[05:39] <w30> grok, maybe you could make an install that would be like that hand in a box that came out and shut of the on switch and stopped. When you flipped the on swith again the hand would come out again.
[05:39] <O2> KDE & GNOME is some libs for apps, right?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> O2,  a bit more then that..
[05:39] <carl_> Hey guys... I need a hand... I'm trying to run partypokers java in-browser version of their poker client... but it doesn't seem to work, what packages are required for running java software like this?
[05:39] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: well, there may be a config file for the java package that might be a more appropriate place.
[05:39] <ArrenLex> No. KDE&GNOME are desktop environments. i.e., libraries + a bunch of stuff to run on top of them to interact with the user.
[05:39] <grok> w30: lmao whaa??
[05:40] <ArrenLex> !java
[05:40] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:40] <O2> kde & gnome include a "desktop"(app) and some libs !
[05:40] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: I don't like update-alternative that messes up my Java environment since I need multiple environments coexisting for my development
[05:41] <ArrenLex> O2: yes! :)
[05:41] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: okay, then do as you planned above
[05:41] <ArrenLex> tritium: aren't your variables supposed to go in /etc/environment?
[05:42] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: okay..ic ic....but if I copy my jdk there, the permission is my own and group as well, is it a better idea to put a Java group there and setup the group permission for Java group?
[05:42] <O2> so, if an app uses KDE lib, it will have KDE styles even I am in GNOME desktop env?
[05:42] <Karnex420> I can't get my mic or line in working.  I haven't been able to play my gibson for days.  Anyone with a thread of direction?
[05:42] <tritium> ArrenLex: yes, that is a good place, but he was asking for the system-wide bashrc, and it can be used.
[05:42] <ArrenLex> O2: it will have *qt* styles, and KDE itself will also use qt styles.
[05:42] <ArrenLex> O2: but yes.
[05:42] <vilefridge> is GRUB needed at all if I just have Ubuntu installed, no other OS's to boot from?
[05:43] <O2> KDE is qt style,  then what style is GNOME?
[05:43] <tritium> vilefridge: yes, you need a bootloader
[05:43] <ArrenLex> vilefridge: yes. You need something to tell the computer to boot ubuntu.
[05:43] <ArrenLex> O2: gtk style.
[05:43] <vilefridge> tritium, ArrenLex: thanks :)
[05:43] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: how do I add an user to a group?
[05:44] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: with the adduser command, or via the gui tool
[05:44] <O2> ArrenLex:  oh, I see now, thought not completely.  But how could I set it to KDE when booting ubuntu?
[05:44] <ArrenLex> JavaDeveloper: adduser user group =  Add an existing user to an existing group
[05:44] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: thank you very much
[05:44] <Lard-O-Lad> !schedule
[05:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:44] <ArrenLex> O2: with your display manager.
[05:45] <O2> ArrenLex:  where?
[05:45] <tritium> O2: there is a place to choose the session
[05:45] <ArrenLex> O2: what display manager are you using?
[05:45] <O2>  I don't know
[05:45] <ArrenLex> O2: what desktop environment are you using?
[05:45] <O2> I am using ubuntu 6.0.6
[05:45] <O2> now gnome
[05:45] <tritium> O2: you're using gdm
[05:46] <tritium> (gnome display manager)
[05:46] <O2> oh...... some where can I set the system start with kde ?
[05:46] <tritium> O2: select a KDE session
[05:47] <O2> but how???
[05:47] <tritium> O2: with the mouse
[05:47] <wastrel> in the login screen you can choose it
[05:47] <O2> I am a beginner, started only several days ago
[05:47] <ArrenLex> O2: first of all, log out. =P
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Explore the menus and os.. :)
[05:47] <w30> vilefridge, I like the bootloader for Ubuntu because it has a boot for a safe boot as well as the ability to add boot options easily  to the kernel
[05:48] <O2> login screen..... the place I enter my account?
[05:48] <amicrawle> how do i modprob my hardware what is the command
[05:48] <w30> vilefridge, but no you can boot Ubuntu directly.
[05:48] <O2> OK, I try now
[05:48] <graft> hey y'all - i'm trying to get fglrx working, but it keeps disabling direct rendering - it says i have composite extension enabled even after i comment it out
[05:48] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  lspci shows some of the detected stuff.
[05:49] <w30> vilefridge, how would you update your kernel with update safely?
[05:49] <tritium> amicrawle: to use modprobe, you need to know the module name you want to load.
[05:49] <amicrawle> yes it found it
[05:49] <IcemanV9> is glade similiar to VB?
[05:49] <elspeth> Hi, I've been given a file to set up printing, which is supposed to work under a fedora system thus: /usr/sbin/system-config-printer-tui --Ximport < printer-settings.xml . Is there an ubuntu equivalent incantation?
[05:49] <amicrawle> the phillips tv card
[05:49] <O2> god, kde is still installing..... what a long time
[05:49] <ArrenLex> graft: can you show us where it says you "have composite enabled"?
[05:49] <tritium> w30: apt-get can update your kernel safely
[05:49] <amicrawle> DR WILLS
[05:49] <tritium> amicrawle: that should be auto-detected, _if_ it's supported
[05:49] <w30> tritium, ok
[05:50] <amicrawle> ok how do i run it then
[05:50] <tritium> elspeth: System->Administration->Printing
[05:50] <graft> any idea how i can get this straight?
[05:50] <graft> hewooo
[05:50] <elspeth> tritium: unfortunately, the xml isn't really all that human-readable; is there a way to import the settings directly?
[05:51] <tritium> amicrawle: check the output of "dmesg" for messages to see if it's detected
[05:51] <ArrenLex> (21:49:42) ArrenLex: graft: can you show us where it says you "have composite enabled"?
[05:51] <amicrawle> ok it see the sound part of the tuner card
[05:51] <amicrawle> but no video
[05:51] <Keaton> Not sure this is the right place to ask, but how do I get GRUB to work when I have Windows on a master drive and Linux on a slave drive?
[05:51] <amicrawle> how to  DR WILLS
[05:52] <ArrenLex> Keaton: have you found that it doesn't work?
[05:52] <graft> arrrr
[05:52] <Keaton> Well, when I turn on the computer it boots straight into Windows 2k
[05:52] <Keaton> That's a pretty clear sign.
[05:52] <ArrenLex> graft: feel free to respond to me any time.
[05:52] <graft> err, sorry, got lagged out
[05:52] <w30> Keaton,
[05:52] <Keaton> I actually installed Windows AFTER Linux.
[05:52] <graft> what was your question?
[05:52] <tritium> Keaton: did you install ubuntu and configure it to install grub?
[05:52] <wastrel> !grub
[05:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:52] <ArrenLex> graft: I only asked it twice.
[05:52] <tritium> Keaton: ah, that's it
[05:52] <wastrel> keaton ^^^
[05:52] <ArrenLex> (21:51:18) ArrenLex: (21:49:42) ArrenLex: graft: can you show us where it says you "have composite enabled"?
[05:52] <graft> ArrenLex: sorry, i had a major burst of lag
[05:52] <witless> hi. once i add myself to a new group, is there any way to get it to take effect without logging out completely and logging back in?
[05:52] <Keaton> Thanks, I'll check the link./
[05:53] <amicrawle> any ideas people ?
[05:53] <tritium> witless: no
[05:54] <w30> Keaton, Did you install windows after you installed Ubuntu or have the Windows drive unconnected when you installed Ubuntu. Did you install Grub in the mbr of the first hard drive?
[05:54] <witless> tritium: thanks
[05:54] <graft> umm, here: (II) fglrx(0): Composite extension enabled, disabling direct rendering
[05:54] <elspeth> *sigh*
[05:54] <Keaton> w30, I installed Kubuntu on the slave drive first, then installed Windows 2k on the master.
[05:55] <joeCoT> Keaton: just follow the how-to to reinstall grub
[05:55] <ArrenLex> graft: where is that from? /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Also, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:55] <Keaton> alrighty.
[05:55] <w30> Keaton, try to fix it by reinstalling Grub
[05:55] <w30> !Grub
[05:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:55] <graft> ArrenLex: yeah, Xorg.0.log... hold on on the pastebin...
[05:55] <w30> Keaton, see the url from ubotu
[05:56] <grok> When ubuntu is updated (say, from hoary to dapper) is a completely new kernel installed or is the old kernel just patched?
[05:56] <tritium> grok: new kernel
[05:56] <aztek> I have to boot my laptop three times before I can finally get wpa to connect. Anyone have any idea as to why?
[05:56] <grok> tritium: thanks
[05:56] <ArrenLex> grok: ubuntu comes out with new kernels quite often. They don't have to go up releases for that.
[05:56] <elspeth> it wouldn't be so annoying, if there weren't 5 printers to add
[05:56] <grok> cool, thanks
[05:56] <elspeth> there's no notes on physical location maps to printers :/
[05:56] <tritium> elspeth: what kind of file is that .xml?  It's not a standard cups file.
[05:57] <joeCoT> graft: try this http://felipe-alfaro.org/blog/2006/09/06/ubuntu-edgy-ati-fglrx-dri-3d-acceleration-and-xorg-composite-extension/
[05:57] <graft> ahh... spiffy
[05:57] <graft> thanks JoeCoT
[05:57] <elspeth> tritium: um, I'm not sure - all I know about this file is that it's supposed to work with that system-config-printer-tui utility. For all I know, it may be a cups file.
[05:57] <wastrel> i need to configure my printer
[05:58] <elspeth> my sysadmin is being ... taciturn.
[05:58] <joeCoT> graft: that might work. come back and bug us if it doesn't
[05:58] <graft> yeh.. brb
[05:58] <tritium> elspeth: you'd be better off configuring the printers with the gui tool
[05:58] <joeCoT> well, i guess he can come back other way :)
[05:59] <elspeth> tritium: that's going to be painful :/
[05:59] <ClayG> anyone encounter a problem with apt-bugupdates?
[05:59] <psp> hello
[05:59] <joeCoT> hi
[05:59] <tritium> elspeth: too bad fedora doesn't use standard cups config files!
[05:59] <ClayG> causing their apt session to fail? Mine was failing after the lat fetch
[06:00] <elspeth> tritium: *sigh* I'll live, I guess. I could learn to not like my sysadmin, though.
[06:00] <psp> i have just started using ubuntu for the last few weeks and now its asking me if i would like to upgrade to lts, should i upgrade?
[06:00] <tritium> elspeth: make sure your fedora system doesn't have an /etc/cups/cupsd.conf you can copy
[06:00] <jachyra> Am I allowed to do: wget --input-file http://www.somesite.com/inputfile.txt ? It doesn't seem to be working for me ...
[06:00] <elspeth> tritium: that's the thing; i don't have a fedora system handy
[06:00] <elspeth> tritium: otherwise i would have tried that first :/
[06:01] <joeCoT> psp: there's no reason not to. lts is the newest stable version
[06:01] <ArrenLex> jachyra: wget -i doesn't work?
[06:01] <tritium> elspeth: I've not used fedora.  I've been with debian/ubuntu too long to have tried it.
[06:01] <weeniewhite> boo
[06:01] <jachyra> ArrenLex: not for a URL
[06:01] <bimberi> elspeth: alternatively, sometimes the printer manufacturers provide PPD files (which is what CUPS needs) on their website
[06:01] <graft> coo... so, now it doesn't work for other myserious reasons
[06:01] <jachyra> ArrenLex: am I doing something wrong?
[06:01] <O2> OK, I am in KDE now
[06:01] <ArrenLex> Oh, it's a url! Oh, I don't think you can do that.
[06:01] <joeCoT> graft: lol, what's the error?
[06:01] <ArrenLex> You have to use a local file.
[06:01] <jachyra> gotcha!
[06:01] <psp> joecol: wats new in it?
[06:01] <jachyra> thanks
[06:02] <O2> ArrenLex:  Thanks
[06:02] <graft> umm...
[06:02] <ArrenLex> If you want you can use wget -i `wget http://www.somesite.com/inputfile.txt ` but that's a kludge =P
[06:02] <THX-1138> !twinview is also nvidia-xconfig generates a suitable Xorg.conf
[06:02] <elspeth> bimberi: unforunately, half the problem is that the printer names, models etc are in a barely-readable xml file .. which is why i was searching for a nifty commandline incantation
[06:02] <ArrenLex> No, you can't do that.
[06:02] <psp> joecol: i heard screensavers have changed
[06:02] <ArrenLex> But something similar.
[06:02] <psp> and a few other things
[06:02] <graft> ah... kernel module version does not match driver...
[06:02] <bimberi> elspeth: ah :|
[06:02] <graft> edgy xorg with dapper kernel...
[06:02] <jachyra> ArrenLex: sorry was that last message meant for me? about not being able to do it?
[06:03] <joeCoT> psp: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606?highlight=%28what%27s%29%7C%28new%29
[06:03] <ArrenLex> jachyra: nevermind; it won't work. Ignore it.
[06:03] <bimberi> elspeth: Firefox sometimes does a reasonable job of rendering the XML in a browsable fashion
[06:03] <jachyra> ArrenLex: ok thanks again
[06:03] <joeCoT> psp: if you're on dial-up or something, eft should be stable fairly soon, so you might want to wait out
[06:03] <elspeth> bimberi: I'll give that a go .. at least, it may make figuring out what to transcribe where easier
[06:03] <joeCoT> graft: that'd be a problem. why a dapper kernel?
[06:04] <lansing> i got a question do i need specal drivers for playin dvds
[06:04] <w30> elspeth, I went to the cups sight and found a tar file full of Samsung drivers. Maybe they have one for your printer. All it did was give you a lot mor printer choices and drivers when you went through the gnome-printer-config
[06:04] <graft> joeCoT: eh... i briefly upgraded to the edgy kernel at an early point and it was not very friendly, so i got scared and went back and haven't bothered to upgrade since
[06:05] <psp> graft which version r u using
[06:05] <ArrenLex> lansing: you need the libdvdcss package. You'll have to find this yourself because it's illegal.
[06:05] <w30> sight/site
[06:05] <tritium> !dvd > lansing
[06:05] <elspeth> w30: half the problem is identifying what the printers I have are - I don't necessarily have physical access at the moment to all of them, and the xml isn't precisely meant to be human-readable
[06:05] <psp> im not upgrading
[06:05] <psp> im happy with mine as it is
[06:05] <psp> cant install my printer tho :(
[06:05] <joeCoT> graft: ok. if you're using the dapper repositories (and you've updated), you should be able to reinstall fglrx to get the one matching the dapper kernel
[06:05] <w30> elspeth, is God punishing you for something :=)
[06:06] <elspeth> w30: *sigh* maybe. Whatever it was, I must have had a good time, because i don't remember a thing.
[06:06] <graft> joeCoT: nah i have edgy reposes - i'll probably just upgrade my kernel tonight
[06:06] <w30> elspeth, lol
[06:06] <lansing> ok yhsnx
[06:06] <joeCoT> graft: ok, that's another valid option :) i'll probably edge next week on monday
[06:06] <lansing> thanx
[06:07] <tritium> graft: it'll have other dependencies, so it'll pull in other packages from edgy as well
[06:07] <elspeth> :)
[06:07] <elspeth> oh well, thanks for your help, people
[06:07] <lansing> but i can get the driver tho right
[06:07] <joeCoT> actually, i might dist-update right now ...
[06:07] <elspeth> i'll do it the hard way.
[06:07] <elspeth> bbiab.
[06:07] <tritium> lansing: see the URL I had ubotu send you
[06:07] <lansing> ok
[06:07] <indref> Ok, who wants to help me with users and permissions?
[06:08] <joeCoT> indref: what about them?
[06:08] <graft> tritium: that's fine, i'm running edgy
[06:08] <indref> I just made a new user, for my roommate to use, I logged in, and he can do everything I can :<
[06:08] <tritium> graft: good, then.
[06:08] <joeCoT> indref: like what? what do you not want him to do?
[06:08] <indref> Soo, how do I restrict him some?
[06:08] <indref> First of all, I want him right out of my home dir.
[06:08] <indref> Second, I want him to be unable to install/change/etc
[06:09] <tritium> indref: you'll have to change the permissions on your home dir.
[06:09] <indref> Just play games and surf the web, that's it.
[06:09] <joeCoT> indref: he should need to sudo to install/etc. if he's in the wheel group, remove him
[06:09] <indref> wheel group?
[06:09] <tritium> indref: and unless you intentionally added him to the admin group, he should not be able to install packages
[06:09] <tritium> No, not the wheel group.  The admin group.
[06:09] <bimberi> s/wheel/admin/ on ubuntu
[06:10] <joeCoT> ick, sorry
[06:10] <indref> How do I tell what groups he's in.
[06:10] <bimberi> indref: groups <username>
[06:10] <tritium> indref: pull up the System->Administration->Users and Groups
[06:10] <indref> shayde dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev scanner
[06:11] <indref> Username is shayde, for reference.
[06:11] <ryan_> whats the defalt file browser for ubuntu
[06:11] <joeCoT> bah, i'm gonna make myself useful and update to eft >_<
[06:11] <bimberi> ryan_: nautilus
[06:11] <ryan_> thanks
[06:11] <tritium> indref: good, he's not in the admin group
[06:12] <indref> Yeah, that's a plus.
[06:12] <indref> But my files might as well be his.
[06:12] <tritium> indref: change the permissions on your home directory
[06:12] <mnepton> (recursively)
[06:12] <bimberi> indref: by default, home directories are world readable (but not writable)
[06:12] <indref> He can write, I tested.
[06:12] <indref> My files are 1600777
[06:13] <mnepton> indref: what is your user name on the machine?
[06:13] <indref> I did that once, and everything stopped working :<
[06:13] <indref> indref
[06:13] <indref> :D
[06:13] <indref> Permissions are real touch and go for me.
[06:13] <indref> One thing I just can't get the hang of.
[06:14] <Fireal> .
[06:14] <raghu206> what is the best player for playing files extension .wsx
[06:14] <soundmaster80> hi all, my lost+found directory is a bit large. I'm wondering what the command is to empty it
[06:14] <soundmaster80> or can i delete it and another is re-created
[06:14] <indref> The delete key?
[06:15] <ArrenLex> raghu: .wsx files are playlists. You can't "play" a playlist; you have to play the file that it points to.
[06:15] <DemisM> i get the following error in wpa_supplement how do I Know it's working or has anyone setup wpa2 personal and can show me there config file?
[06:15] <DemisM> RSN: Ignored PMKID candidate without preauth flag
[06:15] <manu__> hi
[06:15] <indref> mnepton, Still with me here?
[06:15] <raghu206> ArrenLex, pls say how to do that
[06:15] <soundmaster80> so i can delete it and another one is auto created?
[06:15] <lansing> i dont even know wat iam lookin for
[06:15] <manu__> can anyone tell me what is the difference between cairo and gnomecanvas?
[06:15] <mnepton> indref: sudo chown -R indref:indref /home/indref && sudo chmod -R 600 /home/indref && sudo chmod +X -R /home/indref
[06:15] <ArrenLex> raghu: it depends what media player you're using. I'm not familiar with any of the default ubuntu ones so I doubt I can help you much.
[06:16] <DHN_WP> does anyone know of a utility that can tell me which keyboard button is being pressed?
[06:16] <indref> mnepton, Holy crap that's a mouthful!
[06:16] <THX-1138> xev
[06:16] <mnepton> indref: cut'n'paste :)
[06:16] <indref> mnepton, Hell no, last time I did that everything broke, what does all that do?
[06:16] <mnepton> indref: acutally, you prolly don;t have a group setup for your username
[06:16] <DHN_WP> THX-1138: thanks
[06:16] <mnepton> indref: sudo chown -R indref:users /home/indref && sudo chmod -R 600 /home/indref && sudo chmod +X -R /home/indref
[06:16] <bsigil> I'm running breezy and I recently got my dapper drake installation CD.  Is there some way I can just use the CD to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[06:17] <mnepton> indref: that changes your home directory and everything in it to only be readable and writable by you
[06:17] <ArrenLex> bsigil: man apt-cdrom
[06:17] <tritium> mnepton: but he _should_ have a group for his username
[06:17] <THX-1138> manu_ xev - will give you that. the key settings are in gconf-editor /apps/metacity
[06:17] <tritium> (unless his install went haywire)
[06:17] <indref> mnepton, Won't that stop other programs from being about to R/W to it?
[06:17] <indref> mnepton, And won't that ruin the hidden files?
[06:17] <mnepton> indref: other programs run as your user (e.g. Firefox)
[06:18] <indref> mnepton, I don't think I get it, why do I need the hundred of other users on my machine then?
[06:18] <mnepton> indref: and how would it ruin hidden files? not sure i understand.
[06:18] <indref> mnepton, I have hidden files, configs for many programs, could I ruin those?
[06:18] <mnepton> indref: what apps that you do not launch as your user need access to your home dir?
[06:19] <indref> mnepton, I dunno, you tell me.
[06:19] <THX-1138> not sure why xbindkeys segfault no need to try it. xmodmap may be an alternate. - haven't been able to assign a command to a key using gconf-editor. - bad syntax maybe?
[06:19] <mnepton> indref: only if, say, you're running apache as the apache user and it needs to read site stuff from your ~/
[06:19] <slavik> anyone else run edgy by chance?
[06:19] <indref> mnepton, Like I said, permissions are my kryptonite, I just can't get the hang of them.
[06:19] <slavik> indref: what's so difficult?
[06:19] <indref> mnepton, I might want to set up a connection between my machine and my wifes.
[06:19] <ArrenLex> slavik: edgy help in #ubuntu+1
[06:19] <DHN_WP> I have a remote control for the Sony VAIO.  In Ubuntu the remote signals seem to have been converted into keyboard presses.  Anyone know of some utility I can use to configure this?
[06:20] <indref> sladen, What are all the different users and groups for?
[06:20] <slavik> ArrenLex: I know, was hoping there were edgy people here
[06:20] <ianmacgregor> THX-1138: Does this help? http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Linux.KeyboardShortcuts
[06:20] <joeCoT> slavik: #ubuntu+1
[06:20] <wastrel> thx-1138 is people, it's made of people
[06:20] <indref> sladen, slocate, messagebus, hplip, what are they all?
[06:20] <slavik> indref: you could be in group students and I could be in group staff and I can all some of my files to be readable only staff and other by anyone
[06:20] <mnepton> indref: making your home dir only readable and writable by you is just fine for 90% of desktop users
[06:20] <THX-1138> ianmacgregor: It just might. - thank you for the link'
[06:21] <ianmacgregor> THX-1138: You're welcome :)
[06:21] <indref> mnepton, Right, what about that network I need down the line?
[06:21] <ArrenLex> indref: hplip is Hewlett Packard scanner drivers; does that help?
[06:21] <ianmacgregor> THX-1138: I think you want section 1.2 on that page
[06:21] <indref> ArrenLex, A little :D
[06:21] <ArrenLex> !sladen
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sladen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <THX-1138> wasterl - lol  "Buy! Buy more! Buy more NOW!"
[06:21] <ArrenLex> !slocate
[06:21] <ubotu> slocate: Secure replacement of findutil's locate. In component main, is extra. Version 3.0.beta.r3-1 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 152 kB
[06:21] <mnepton> indref: a network connection has no bearing on the permissions of your home, until you try to share it.
[06:21] <ArrenLex> Well, that's some more help.
[06:21] <ArrenLex> !messagebus
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about messagebus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <mnepton> indref: and if and when that happens come back here.
[06:21] <wastrel> wrong dystopian future i guess
[06:22] <indref> mnepton, That is sound advice :D
[06:22] <mnepton> indref: "turn that stereo down, you'll ruin your hearing."
[06:22] <indref> mnepton, I'll give that big long command of yours a whirl.
[06:22] <indref> mnepton, What stereo.
[06:22] <mnepton> indref: oh, just some more "sound advice"
[06:22] <indref> mnepton, Right :D
[06:23] <slavik> indref: mono = single source, stereo = multiple sources
[06:23] <lansing> wat am i lookin for
[06:23] <indref> sladen, Isn't stereo specifically two sources?
[06:23] <indref> mnepton, sudo chown -R indref:users /home/indref && sudo chmod -R 600 /home/indref && sudo chmod +X -R /home/indre
[06:24] <indref> Right?
[06:24] <indref> Hmm, I missed the f on the end.
[06:24] <THX-1138> ianmacgregor: Can i use a bash alias as a command?
[06:24] <DHN_WP> Ubuntu has the best hardware support I've seen yet.
[06:24] <indref> DHN_WP, Agreed.
[06:24] <ianmacgregor> THX-1138: You can use anthing that is executable.
[06:24] <ArrenLex> DNH_WP: because they're willing to include closed drivers. By that logic, Windows has the best support.
[06:24] <ianmacgregor> THX-1138: I would think you can
[06:24] <THX-1138> ianmacgregor: Okay, Thanks Again.
[06:24] <joeCoT> bah, why is the us ubuntu repo so slow?
[06:25] <indref> Damn closed drivers.
[06:25] <DHN_WP> ArrenLex: and it does
[06:25] <Tonren> Hey guys, there is a workgroup on the Windows Network that I can access from Windows, but in Linux when I try to access it via Nautilus, I get a "could not display all the contents of this folder" error.
[06:25] <w30> mnepton, that's bad, really bad...
[06:25] <ianmacgregor> joeCoT: Because it's very popular?
[06:25] <indref> mnepton, Call me nervous, but I am waiting for a 10-4 from you.
[06:25] <ArrenLex> DHN_WP: Yes it does. But for some reason people still use Linux.
[06:25] <tritium> ArrenLex: it beats leaving the user without decent hardware support
[06:25] <nomin> I just got explorer up and running.
[06:25] <ArrenLex> tritium: does it? It depends on your priorities.
[06:25] <nomin> anyone want to know how to do it?
[06:25] <slavik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26400/
[06:25] <tritium> ArrenLex: it does
[06:26] <joeCoT> ianmacgregor: i'm well aware. why doesn't it have a better connection? or, why doesn't it load-balance to, say, canada when it's overloaded?
[06:26] <DHN_WP> so far Ubuntu recognized my remote control for Sony VAIO
[06:26] <tritium> Since our priorities are not "screw you, user!"
[06:26] <DHN_WP> although it's converting the signal into keyboard presses
[06:26] <ianmacgregor> joeCoT: No idea, 'twas just a guess.
[06:26] <tamacracker> Hey guys?...
[06:26] <indref> Ok, I did it, I'm logging out to try it.
[06:27] <DHN_WP> but it's better than I expect from Linux
[06:27] <wastrel> nomin:  write a howto :] 
[06:27] <tamacracker> What's a good mp3 to wav converter to download?
[06:27] <kralcymerej> AHHHHHHHH help!!
[06:27] <nomin> wastrel:  no need to.  It's all right here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=wine
[06:27] <bimberi> tamacracker: audacity
[06:27] <ArrenLex> tritium: "screw you, user!" is not, AFAIK, the priority of any Linux distro...
[06:27] <nomin> just follow the step by step instructions
[06:27] <ArrenLex> Some just have the priority of "morals are actually important!"
[06:27] <Tonren> tamacracker: http://directory.fsf.org/audio-convert.html
[06:27] <tamacracker> audacity?
[06:28] <ArrenLex> tamacracker: lame? xD
[06:28] <mnepton> indref: hmm? waiting for a what now?
[06:28] <tritium> ArrenLex: morality has nothing to do with providing drivers
[06:28] <w30> I have a question? If you have two identical commands and both are in $PATH, which one wins?
[06:28] <bimberi> !info audacity
[06:28] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[06:28] <indref> mnepton, Nevermind, back in a sec. :DF
[06:28] <kralcymerej> I just rebooted my system and now everything except the top right panel loads??? can anyone help?
[06:28] <ArrenLex> tritium: of course it does, if the drivers are closed.
[06:28] <Tonren> w30: whichever shows up first in $PATH
[06:28] <Tonren> Hey guys, there is a workgroup on the Windows Network that I can access from Windows, but in Linux when I try to access it via Nautilus, I get a "could not display all the contents of this folder" error.
[06:28] <bimberi> w30: the one in the first directory in $PATH
[06:28] <w30> Tonren, thanks
[06:28] <tritium> ArrenLex: no, there is no connection
[06:28] <ArrenLex> w30: the one that appears earliest in #PATH
[06:28] <ianmacgregor> tamacracker: apt-cache search 2wav
[06:29] <bsigil> Bah.  I just have the Dapper Desktop CD.  I need the Alternate install CD to upgrade.
[06:29] <joeCoT> Arrenlex: I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is more focused on usability than only accepting open-source drivers.
[06:29] <tamacracker> Sweet thanks!
[06:29] <soundmaster80> ok, for some reason i'm using 17gb of a 18gb harddrive. is there anything i can run to find out where my space is going?
[06:29] <ArrenLex> tritium: of course there is. Free software is a belief. It's a way of life.
[06:29] <tritium> ArrenLex: please, take your _opinion_ to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:29] <ArrenLex> xD as opposed to your opinion, which is fine here?
[06:29] <aztek> how do i completely stop and restart the PCMCIA services
[06:29] <slavik> tritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26400/ any idea why it get signal 11?
[06:29] <Tonren> soundmaster80: go to your home directory and type du -sh
[06:29] <tritium> ArrenLex: no, let's both not discuss it here
[06:29] <slavik> isn't signal 11 = segfault?
[06:30] <tritium> ubuntu has already made its policy regarding providing drivers for users
[06:30] <wastrel> soundmaster80:  check /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:30] <slavik> code::blocks is considered more current
[06:30] <kralcymerej> hey all, I just rebooted my system and now everything except the top right panel loads??? can anyone help?
[06:30] <slavik> wrong channel, sorry
[06:30] <soundmaster80> ok, tonren nothing in either of them
[06:31] <wastrel> looks perlish
[06:31] <jachyra> I'm new to Linux, how can I look up manual pages associated to standard c libraries associated with Ubuntu?
[06:31] <Tonren> soundmaster80: hmm... check out the man page for du, it'll work for ya
[06:31] <wastrel> jachyra:  sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[06:31] <soundmaster80> ok, i'll check it out
[06:31] <ArrenLex> tritium: of course. Ubuntu is free to provide anything it wishes; choice is the benefit of Linux. There are already distributions which fulfil the role of openness. It's merely good-natured argument as to the benefit of open source.
[06:31] <jachyra> wastrel: thanks so much!
[06:31] <mnepton> tritium: the decision made was to provide a free distribution that anyone could alter, redistribute, or change. some drivers allow for that, and are thus included. some drivers are closed and do not allow things like redistribution, and are therefor not included. but it was no decision about drivers in and of themselves.
[06:32] <joeCoT> ArrenLex: which is perfect discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic, or the offtopic ubuntu forums
[06:32] <ArrenLex> 'course. It was merely what came up.
[06:33] <Tonren> soundmaster80: Ah!  I figured it out
[06:33] <Tonren> soundmaster80: du -sh *
[06:33] <tritium> mnepton: no, drivers in particular were in fact addressed
[06:33] <DHN_WP> How do I get an officially supported version of Firefox that's newer than 1.5?
[06:33] <kralcymerej> any old hands around that can help a linux neophyte?
[06:33] <Tonren> Hey guys, there is a workgroup on the Windows Network that I can access from Windows, but in Linux when I try to access it via Nautilus, I get a "could not display all the contents of this folder" error.
[06:34] <ArrenLex> DHN_WP: officially supported by whom? Mozilla? Download it from getfirefox.com
[06:34] <DHN_WP> Ubuntu
[06:34] <ArrenLex> DHN_WP: I believe 1.5.0.7 is in the Dapper repositories.
[06:34] <DHN_WP> DHN_WP: so if I want something newer I have to install it myself?
[06:34] <joeCoT> DHN_WP: there aren't any. You can install the 2.0 branch as a deb from mozilla.org, but it may break ubuntu dependancies that depend on 1.5
[06:34] <Madpilot> !info firefox edgy
[06:34] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.99+2.0rc2+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 8952 kB, installed size 28540 kB
[06:35] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: DHN_WP is talking to himself. It's kind of weird.
[06:35] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: I know. o_O
[06:35] <DHN_WP> ArrenLex: Haha
[06:35] <Madpilot> DHN_WP, looks like 1.99 will be in Edgy when it comes out in two weeks or so
[06:35] <ArrenLex> DHN_WP: if you want a newer version than what? What came with the install-cd? Yeah, you have to install it.
[06:35] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  just ask :] 
[06:35] <Fireal> when intalling from live cd how can I tell the mount point for my partitions?  don't see it.
[06:35] <kralcymerej> I just rebooted my system and now everything except the top right panel loads??? can anyone help?
[06:35] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  gnome or kde?
[06:36] <kralcymerej> gnome
[06:36] <Fireal> gnome ->gparted
[06:36] <joeCoT> DHN_WP: There are newer versions, but they're not tested fully yet, and might break packages that depend on 1.5. the same discussion was made over why they didn't get include 1.5 in the breezy backports ;)
[06:36] <wastrel> what's the top right panel?   did you set up a custom panel?
[06:36] <soundmaster80> Tonren...thank you...you have pointed me to /var/log :)
[06:37] <lansing> i dont under stand on wat its tellin me i need a lil help
[06:37] <Tonren> soundmaster80: hahaha, glad to help
[06:37] <ianmacgregor> wastrel: he may be talking about the notification area applet.. he may have removed it
[06:37] <slavik> lansing: who is telling you what?
[06:37] <cschneid> is there a partition resizer?  I want to keep my home dir, and reinstall the OS
[06:37] <lansing> iam tryin to get the drivers to play dvds
[06:37] <jachyra> wastrel: sorry to bother you again, but I just got manpages-dev, how do I search for say .. printf?
[06:37] <ArrenLex> cscheneid: gparted
[06:37] <ArrenLex> lansing: libdvdcss
[06:37] <ianmacgregor> cschneid: gparted
[06:37] <lansing> for breezy
[06:37] <ArrenLex> !dvd
[06:37] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:38] <soundmaster80> cd ok, this is crazy
[06:38] <wastrel> jachyra:  man 3 printf
[06:38] <soundmaster80> my cups access_log is 17gb
[06:38] <soundmaster80> that's not right is it?
[06:38] <cschneid> ianmacgregor, how reliable is it?  am I going to lose any data while doing it?
[06:38] <jachyra> wastrel: thanks again
[06:38] <slavik> soundmaster80: lots of printing, eh?
[06:38] <lansing> ya i know arren but i dont understand on how to do it its confusing
[06:38] <tritium> cschneid: also, the partioner in the installer can resize partitions
[06:38] <kralcymerej> just the stock default panel (i.e. shutdown/date/volume/power/network/etc.) . everything else loads but doesn't respond. the only that responds is the "trash"!
[06:38] <soundmaster80> well, i have been but that's not right for it to get to that size is it?
[06:39] <ianmacgregor> cschneid: You shoudl always backup data when doing that type of operation, regardless of how reliable the app is. But, I have used gparted for a long while with no problems.
[06:39] <slavik> soundmaster80: no idea ... but I don't think it's right
[06:39] <cschneid> one last quick question then, how do I tell cp to also copy dot files (hidden files)
[06:40] <kralcymerej> any ideas?
[06:40] <slavik> cschneid: cp *.*
[06:40] <ArrenLex> lansing: do this in a terminal: "wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/dapper-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2_i386.deb"
[06:40] <ArrenLex> lansing: then: "sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2_i386.deb"
[06:40] <Madpilot> cschneid, 'man cp' is the manual - the flag is probably something like -A, but check first, I'm just guessing
[06:40] <ArrenLex> lansing: then: "rm libdvdcss2*.deb"
[06:41] <ArrenLex> lansing: and that should set you up.
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[06:41] <joeCoT> ^kick?
[06:41] <slavik> Madpilot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26400/ any idea why it segfaults?
[06:41] <ianmacgregor> Donkeybreath: That is ot for this channel
[06:41] <Dr_willis> I got an Image for ya to host.... :)
[06:41] <tritium> Donkeybreath: stop that!
[06:41] <indref> Sweet!
[06:41] <Dr_willis> and your momma wont like it..
[06:41] <indref> mnepton, Perfect!
[06:42] <indref> Ban?
[06:42] <tritium> yes
[06:42] <Madpilot> indref, yes.
[06:42] <indref> oh noes D:
[06:42] <joeCoT> well, it's a bot
[06:42] <Madpilot> which reminds me
[06:42] <BHSPitLappy> got a problem
[06:42] <joeCoT> people don't generally join rooms and spam websites first off
[06:42] <indref> Madpilot, Hey, whatever you say boss :D
[06:42] <Dr_willis> lets post images there.. advertising this irc channel/network! :)
[06:42] <kralcymerej> does anyone have an idea re my panel issue?
[06:43] <indref> kralcymerej, Still have that problem?
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> a USB hard drive of mine (a 30GB iPod), opened in qtparted or gparted shows no partitions
[06:43] <indref> kralcymerej, Have you tried resetting them?
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> a big unallocated space
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> in fdisk, the actual partitions show
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> this a bug?
[06:43] <mnepton> indref: glad you're happy
[06:43] <ianmacgregor> kralcymerej: Did you create a custom panel? I don't understand "top right panel"
[06:43] <kralcymerej> just the stock default panel (i.e. shutdown/date/volume/power/network/etc.) . everything else loads but doesn't respond. the only that responds is the "trash"!
[06:43] <ianmacgregor> kralcymerej: Or are you referring to a panel applet?
[06:43] <indref> mnepton, Thank you for helping me. Now I need to change my password, the admin/everything password. He knows it.
[06:44] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  is the panel there, but blank or is there no panel at all?
[06:44] <kralcymerej> panel is blank and does not respond
[06:44] <jordan> My volume is much louder in OSx than Ubuntu.
[06:44] <mnepton> indref: the password for your account?
[06:44] <indref> mnepton, Yeah.
[06:44] <muhammad> is there any way to save updates  in ubuntu ?
[06:44] <mnepton> indref: "passwd" (no quotes) in a terminal
[06:45] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  so you right-click it but it doesn't respond?
[06:45] <w30> cschneid, doesn't cp read .files ok, I never had to do any thing special copying dot files except name them  with * or *.*
[06:45] <kralcymerej> correct, quite frustrating actually
[06:45] <indref> mnepton, Well that was easy..
[06:46] <kralcymerej> any suggestions people might have would be most welcome
[06:46] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  logout & back in ? :]   or kill gnome panel and restart it.
[06:46] <w30> cschneid, cp -R copies all files including .files for me any way
[06:46] <narg> Has anyone ever heard of ls -a /missing/ a directory? There is one that exists (both bittorrent and konqueror can read it), but it doesn't appear in the console at all.
[06:46] <slavik> narg: what is the name?
[06:46] <ianmacgregor> kralcymerej: You can run killall gnome-panel and it should respawn on its own
[06:47] <wastrel> narg:  are you sure you're in the right parent directory?  does the directory name contain a weard character that maybe the terminal doesn't like?
[06:47] <jordan> My volume is much louder in OSx than Ubuntu. How can I make the volume louder than Volume control wil let me?
[06:47] <narg> "More Friends music from FINAL FANTASY ~Final Fantasy Orchestra Concert in Los Angeles 2005~" (directory)
[06:47] <narg> does the ~ screw with it?
[06:47] <kralcymerej> logout and back in results in same issue, and pardon my ineptitude but how can I access the terminal with out loading from applications menu?
[06:47] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  alt-f2
[06:47] <joeCoT> narg: sure it's not just wrapping or something? Just it show up with ls -la ?
[06:47] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  "xterm"
[06:47] <slavik> kralcymerej: ctrl+alt+F1 (or anything from F1 to F6, F7 to go back to GUI)
[06:48] <slavik> kralcymerej: or gnome-terminal
[06:48] <narg> joeCoT: I can't make it show up with any combination of ls I can think of.
[06:48] <slavik> :P
[06:48] <wastrel> mine's shorter ;] 
[06:48] <kralcymerej> all try it thanks for the advice
[06:48] <joeCoT> narg: can you cd into the directory? does find see it?
[06:48] <slavik> wastrel: mine is faster :P
[06:49] <jordan> I would think raising the volume would be simple?
[06:49] <narg> joeCoT: I can cd into now that I try... So its just ls
[06:49] <joeCoT> narg: if it really doesn't show, that's weird. post about it on the forums?
[06:49] <ScurveyFrog> jordan: have you tried enabling all sliders and bumping them all up to max?
[06:49] <lansing> dont work
[06:49] <slavik> jordan: maybe it is something lower level (alsa, oss, esd or driver) that is preventing you from having higher aplitude
[06:49] <jordan> ScurveyFrog, Yes.
[06:50] <ScurveyFrog> jordan: even the weird ones like surround?
[06:50] <wastrel> narg:  are you sure the ~'s are ~'s ?
[06:50] <narg> joeCoT: I have no idea how I'd reproduce this, so I think I'm going to move the contents, cut my losses, the act like it didn't exist :p
[06:50] <puff> Evening, I"m dealing with a seriously broken dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper.
[06:50] <narg> wastrel: konqueror says they are.
[06:50] <wastrel> narg:  what happens when you autocomplete the dir name?
[06:51] <wastrel> in the terminal
[06:51] <w30> jordan, PCM is up all the way, right?
[06:51] <narg> wastrel: it works
[06:51] <jordan> w30, Yes.
[06:51] <wastrel> narg:  and ls -la | grep More    doesn't show it?
[06:51] <puff> Current strategy I'm considering is downloading & burning
[06:51] <narg> wastrel: nada
[06:52] <joeCoT> puff: what's broken about it?
[06:52] <ScurveyFrog> jordan: sorry, my experience doesn't go beyond the sliders, hopefully there are some developers around tonight
[06:52] <puff> ....downloading & burning a dapper install CD an d seeing if I can do an install over my old installw ithout losing my user data, etc.
[06:52] <puff> Is this a sane idea?
[06:52] <indref> Heh, this machine is mine.
[06:52] <narg> wastrel: peer, running ls without any flags sees it. Interesting
[06:52] <wastrel> weird
[06:52] <indref> mnepton, Thank you for your help, and your patience.
[06:53] <narg> wastrel: oh... Heh. I use the -B flag, which ignore files ending in ~. :/
[06:53] <w30> jordan, maybe it's a driver issue or the wrong (not best choice) driver?
[06:53] <wastrel> good one :] 
[06:53] <joeCoT> puff: the install will override everything on the partition. since it's a live cd, you can mount the drive and take off whatever data you need. not sure if there's a straight upgrader ....
[06:53] <narg> wastrel: Considering I set the alias probably 2 or 3 years ago... (I don't erase /home when I change distros)
[06:53] <jordan> w30, the only other choice I see in volume manager is OSS, I want ALSA.
[06:54] <joeCoT> puff: but i've only been wrong like 10 minutes ago, so :shrug:
[06:54] <raghu206> how to play playlist with .wsx extesion
[06:54] <ArrenLex> raghu: in what player?
[06:54] <w30> jordan, yes stick with ALSA for sure
[06:55] <raghu206> ArrenLex, mplayer
[06:55] <ScurveyFrog> jordan: you could also try alsamixer
[06:55] <ArrenLex> raghu: easy! Do you have w32codecs?
[06:55] <raghu206> ArrenLex, no pls give me link
[06:55] <ArrenLex> !w32codecs
[06:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <puff> I dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy, worked fine.  Changed the source.lists to dapper, dist-upgraded, it chugged away but somewherearound  850 packages in died with "Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb"
[06:56] <ArrenLex> raghu: download this file : http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[06:56] <puff> Re-ran dist-upgrade a couple of times, somewhere in that process the laptop rebooted and now eth1 and eth0 are missing.
[06:56] <ArrenLex> raghu: and install it.
[06:56] <ArrenLex> raghu: then just run "mplayer -playlist <file.wsx>
[06:56] <ArrenLex> "
[06:56] <w30> jordan, how about the actual hardware driver like for what sound card or onboard chip?
[06:56] <execrator777> i am trying to set up a dual boot WinXP Home/Kubuntu Dapper Drake system on a dell E1505. I can't get past the partitioner, it keeps saying that the partition is not big enough even though its 40GB. I use the other 40 GB for windows. And it won't create a new partition in the empty space. Please help! I don't know what to do!
[06:57] <joeCoT> puff: you could always burn the cd, mount it, and use it as the repo
[06:57] <totall_6_7> I got it, i got it, i got it, i finnaly figured out how to get access to a MS Access db :D:D:D
[06:57] <puff> Come again?
[06:57] <puff> Use the CD as the repository?
[06:57] <puff> Ah, that might be cooo.l....
[06:57] <raghu206> ArrenLex, the file is on media server
[06:58] <joeCoT> puff: yes. that's how ubuntu sets it up by default anyways. check your sources.list
[06:58] <ArrenLex> raghu: it doesn't matter. mplayer can handle it.
[06:58] <execrator777>  i am trying to set up a dual boot WinXP Home/Kubuntu Dapper Drake system on a dell E1505. I can't get past the partitioner, it keeps saying that the partition is not big enough even though its 40GB. I use the other 40 GB for windows. And it won't create a new partition in the empty space. Please help! I don't know what to do!
[06:58] <ArrenLex> mplayer -playlist <file/url/whatever>
[06:58] <joeCoT> puff: the top line lists the install cd as the repo. if you had internet on install, it's commented out
[06:58] <BHSPitLappy> execrator777, what's it say?
[06:58] <puff> Cool.
[06:58] <puff> That would be much a coolness.
[06:59] <joeCoT> puff: it won't have /all/ the packages you need, but at least the networking stuff should be there. it's worth a shot.
[06:59] <Fireal> In the graphical install from the LiveCD, how can I tell which partition root and/or home are mounted in?
[06:59] <execrator777> Basically it seems like its making the partition but it never creates it
[06:59] <BHSPitLappy> Fireal, the step right after the partitioning step.
[06:59] <execrator777> and then it says that the partition is not big enough to install linux.
[06:59] <execrator777> yeah
[06:59] <puff> Well, at the very least I guess I could boot with the live CD to get the network working and use that to back up the data.
[07:00] <execrator777> any ideas?
[07:00] <Fireal> Ha, guess I was hung for a moment, thanks!
[07:00] <joeCoT> puff: yep, at the very least. i generally reinstall when i have stuff like that happen :shrug: but then again i keep my data on a separate partition ;)
[07:02] <execrator777> so does anybody have any ideas?
[07:03] <BHSPitLappy> execrator777, not real sure
[07:03] <Dr_willis> execrator777,  check youf 'fdisk -l' output and perhaps put it on pastebin for use to see.
[07:04] <Dr_willis> execrator777,   do have a section of the hard drive 'unallocated' ?
[07:04] <execrator777> yeah, its 8mb
[07:04] <execrator777> sorry dr_willis, what does that mean?
[07:04] <execrator777> check youf 'fdisk -l' output and perhaps put it on pastebin for use to see.
[07:05] <joeCoT> execrator777: .... that's possibly why. what parititions does fdisk list?
[07:05] <execrator777> thats the partitioner in the kubuntu installer? or windoze?
[07:05] <execrator777> oh i know
[07:05] <execrator777> windows right?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> execrator777,  im thinking you are failing to have a 'unallocated' space on the hard drive for  linux to install to.
[07:05] <puff> joeCoT: Y'know, I kept saying I wante dto do that and everybnody kept telling me not to :-(.
[07:06] <joeCoT> execrator: are you in the live cd? open a console, type: sudo fdisk -l
[07:06] <execrator777> i try to make the unallocated space but the partitioner wont do it
[07:06] <execrator777> ok hold on
[07:06] <joeCoT> paste the output into the pastebin, link it here
[07:08] <DHN_WP> anyone know how to set a translation for input device event?
[07:08] <DHN_WP> translation layer
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> execrator777, you should make a (I recommend reiserfs)-formatted partition, and on the next step, set it as your /
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> and a swap
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> maybe even separate / and /home partitions, but whatever floats yer boat
[07:09] <execrator777> i dont have a livecd, i have only the installl disk. can I use a Backtrack or Slax livecd?
[07:10] <joeCoT> execrator: are you using the standard dapper/lts install disk?
[07:11] <execrator777> no the alternate one, for advanced options
[07:12] <joeCoT> grr.... does the install cd have an option to go to a console? i forget
[07:12] <Fireal> trying to add FAT32 partition, any HowTo's out there?
[07:13] <execrator777> the options are install in text mode, install a server, check cd for defects, rescue a broken system, memtest, boot from first hard disk
[07:13] <execrator777> and it says press f6 for boot options
[07:13] <joeCoT> um, rescue a broken system? does that bring you to a console?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Fireal,  trying to mount an existing fat32 partition? or create a new one?
[07:14] <hyperpenguin> How can I go about getting packages on to a non-networked machine with a flash drive or CD?
[07:14] <execrator777> no it just starts the installer in rescue mode
[07:14] <mnepton> execrator777: personally, i would recommend against Reiser.
[07:14] <Fireal> Dr_Will:  Using Live CD, create one
[07:14] <Jbirk> Hi
[07:14] <execrator777> whats Reiser?
[07:14] <Jbirk> I am in #ubuntu-xgl fyi
[07:14] <Jbirk> What is the other XGL room?
[07:14] <Jbirk> Reiser is a File System
[07:15] <mnepton> execrator777: a type of filesystem. when you format Linux partitions, i recommend sticking with ext3
[07:15] <Fireal> Dr_willis: sorry, got your name wrong
[07:15] <tamacracker> Anyone here make beats or just music in general on Ubuntu?
[07:15] <joeCoT> execrator: alright, in that case, do you have a linux live cd you can use? just need access to fdisk
[07:15] <execrator777> yeah i have slax and backtrack. which ones should i use?
[07:16] <joeCoT> doesn't matter. they should both have fdisk
[07:16] <tamacracker> Is there a program on Ubuntu such as Fruity Loops (music maker)?
[07:17] <THX-1138> tamacracker freenode is an irc server for open source. - maybe there is a channel for your favorite app?
[07:17] <jamx> tamacracker: hydrogen, but it might not give you as much as you get with fruity loops
[07:17] <tamacracker> freenode? alright ill check it out
[07:17] <tamacracker> i see
[07:17] <execrator777> ok hold on
[07:18] <THX-1138> got dual monitors set up using #xorg here.
[07:18] <hedix> PleAt44 spamer
[07:18] <wastrel> hyperpenguin:  you can get them with  apt-get -d install <package>   ( -d is "download only")  and collect the packages from /var/cache/apt/archives/   this will be tedious if there are a lot of dependencies.   there may be a better way :] 
[07:18] <Dr_willis> Ugh...
[07:18] <mheath[laptop] > i'm going to talk to a freenode op about getting him klined, hedix...he's been spamming in a few channels
[07:18] <hyperpenguin> I only need a few. Thanks!
[07:18] <surekha> Hi all, I have a AMD laptop 64-bit duo core processor and have installed ubuntu on it
[07:18] <tamacracker> hey jamx, thanks bro :D
[07:19] <surekha> how do I check if it is using 2processors?
[07:19] <jamx> surekha: try in console window: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:20] <Fireal> when using the graphical partitioner on LiveCD, Default is 2 partitions Primary and swap (swap is inside extended).  The Primary has the boot flag and is 99% of disk space so I shrink it and add another partition.  I specify FAT32 but in the next step to select mount points it makes it ext3.  What am I doing wrong?
[07:20] <|thunder> sup all. I keep getting this 'Glibc version....FAILED' when I try to install Kylix 3 on Dapper. I'm pretty sure I have to symlink the file to remove the inline vesion number, but I don't know which file it is in /usr/lib
[07:20] <snoops> hey how can I refresh the list of mounted drives - which show up on my desktop and in places>removable media? I've mounted another drive and it's not showing up in there..if I reboot it'll show up..but how do I refresh it without rebooting?
[07:21] <THX-1138> surekha: the  "top" command?
[07:21] <surekha> jamx: processor: 0 is what it says
[07:21] <surekha> TJX-1138: what do I look for in the top command?
[07:21] <surekha> Cpu(s)?
[07:22] <THX-1138> its fairly graphical. -
[07:22] <MaKaTiGuY> what is the best mp3 player in ubuntu?
[07:22] <snoops> MaKaTiGuY, personally I love amarok
[07:22] <tamacracker> amaroK
[07:22] <jamx> surekha: btw, its dual core, u still have 1 chip
[07:23] <Fireal> MaKaTiGuy:  amarok
[07:23] <jamx> so thats correct
[07:23] <aidanr> snoops, does it show up in disks-admin?
[07:24] <snoops> system>administration>disks? yes it does
[07:24] <aidanr> then you can enable it there?
[07:24] <THX-1138> tamacracker: Does the graphical util system monitor show two cpus?
[07:24] <snoops> I can access it, it's mounted fine.. if I go to /media it'll be in there
[07:24] <snoops> it's just not showing up on the desktop or in places>removable media
[07:25] <tamacracker> >.> i dont have two processors
[07:25] <aidanr> oh i see
[07:25] <surekha> jamx: I dont get you
[07:25] <jamx> surekha: you have 1 processor
[07:26] <surekha> jamx: On windows I see two processors
[07:26] <THX-1138> surekha: Yes, i think it would be shown.
[07:27] <snoops> on ubuntu 32bit you need the smp enabled kernel for dual cpu(dual core or two or more cpus)..if using the 64bit ubuntu it'll automatically detect
[07:27] <lansing> on one of my files its got a lock symbal ubove it wat does that mean
[07:27] <kane77> hi anybody will help me installing apache with php support?
[07:27] <kane77> i already installed php and apache
[07:27] <aidanr> lansing, it means you don't have permissions to view the contents of the file/folder
[07:28] <THX-1138> surekha: Does the graphical /system/administration/system monitor  show two pocessors?
[07:28] <lansing> ok how do i change that cus its music from a cd
[07:28] <wastrel> kane77:  lamp howto & skip the 'm' ?
[07:29] <aidanr> lansing, sudo chown username name_of_file/folder
[07:29] <surekha> THX-1138: nope
[07:29] <surekha> it just shows one proc
[07:29] <kane77> wastrel, thanx
[07:30] <lansing> its on all my songs
[07:30] <aidanr> lansing, sudo chown -R username name_of_file/folder
[07:30] <lansing> ok
[07:31] <pajama> is there any workaround for Bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/15451 ?
[07:32] <Jbirk> hyperpenguin, why not network them?
[07:32] <pajama> I don't want to mount all my shares using smbmount, because there are a LOT of shares...
[07:32] <pajama> I want to use KDE
[07:32] <Jbirk> You can network your computer through another computer via crossover cable
[07:32] <newbie___> i want to install derivatives on my system. Is there anyone willing to help me?
[07:33] <slitherxx> /etc/bashrc is for system wide aliases?
[07:33] <Jbirk> hyperpenguin, you can easily netowrk you ubuntu box
[07:33] <MrKeuner> what was that simple gnome http browser's name?
[07:33] <wastrel> epiphany
[07:33] <MrKeuner> yes thanks
[07:34] <lansing> k the folder is my music n its on my desptop so how do i type it in
[07:35] <aidanr> lansing, in a terminal type: sudo chown -R lansing ~/my\ music/
[07:35] <aidanr> and then enter root password
[07:35] <slitherxx> [Mp3] : Pantera - Cemetery Gates [07:06] 
[07:35] <aidanr> assuminh lansing is your user name
[07:35] <slitherxx> /etc/bashrc is for system wide aliases?
[07:35] <lansing> ok
[07:35] <wastrel> slitherxx:  does /etc/bashrc exist on your system?
[07:35] <THX-1138> surekha - what do you see with the uname command uname -a
[07:35] <slitherxx> no
[07:36] <wastrel> slitherxx:  /etc/bash.bashrc  probably
[07:36] <slitherxx> k
[07:36] <execrator771> joeCoT im back
[07:36] <lansing> it sys chown invalid operation
[07:37] <joeCoT> alright. fdisk -l ?
[07:37] <slitherxx> wastrel: is there some 'rehash' command i need to use after adding it?
[07:37] <DemisM> how do i get shockwave?
[07:37] <ArrenLex> ...what's with the spam when you enter the channel?
[07:37] <wastrel> slitherxx:  relog :] 
[07:37] <wastrel> as in, re login
[07:37] <aidanr> lansing, weird, check spelling and case
[07:37] <THX-1138> surekha - If this is a fresh install it likely uses a very boring kernel "one size fits all"  you might want an smp kernel - easy install open synaptic
[07:37] <surekha> THX-1138: Linux 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Date... i686 GNU/Linux
[07:38] <surekha> THX-1138: Yes this is a fresh install
[07:38] <ArrenLex> "(23:37:10) PleAt44: Hello! I am selling Sony Vaio AR190G Notebooks (Core Duo T2500 2 GHz /17" /2GB DDR2 /200 GB HDD @ 7200 rpm /256MB GDDR SDRam / 17" WUXGA TFT Active Matrix (1920 x 1200)/DVD+-RW- / Blu-Ray disc), brand new for 490 euros, if interested send me an e-mail or msg now inti3m@yahoo.com  Thank You" <--- can we kick this guy?
[07:38] <THX-1138> use the info from the uname command to pick the right one.
[07:38] <slitherxx> wastrel: relog command not found
[07:38] <MrKeuner> I am trying to run a remote application on my local box. i use ssh -Y to connect and then run the application which is epiphany, but i get errors reagrding alsa. What am i missing?
[07:38] <ArrenLex> DemisM: there is no shockwave for Linux.
[07:38] <wastrel> relog isn't a command , sorry i meant logout & back in :] 
[07:38] <slitherxx> oh
[07:39] <THX-1138> surekha - sry - that wasn't very clear.
[07:39] <lansing> ok
[07:39] <execrator771> ok its in the pastebin
[07:39] <THX-1138> !kernel
[07:39] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:39] <bimberi_> ubotu tell DemisM about shockwave
[07:39] <THX-1138> !smp
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <execrator771> do you see it?
[07:40] <Keyseir> Anybody here have a little experience with VNC?
[07:40] <wickedpuppy> execrator771, you got to paste the link here for the helpers to see
[07:40] <joeCoT> execrator: linky?
[07:40] <Keyseir> I'm trying to figure out how to set up my VNC server and figure out how to get stuff routed through my firewall to my computer
[07:41] <Keyseir> I think I need to figure out what my local IP is and plug that somewhere in the NAT settings on my router
[07:41] <execrator771> sorry
[07:41] <wastrel> Keyseir:  yes you need to forward ports to the NAT'ed box
[07:41] <execrator771> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26408
[07:42] <MrKeuner> Keyseir/ you need to route the port VNC uses to that remote pc you are running vnc on.
[07:42] <slitherxx> [Mp3] : Avenged Sevenfold - Unholy Confessions [04:47] 
[07:42] <joeCoT> exec: okay, do: fdisk /dev/sda
[07:42] <lansing> chown to few arguments it says
[07:42] <joeCoT> hit n, try to make a new parition
[07:43] <slitherxx> $wastrel++;
[07:43] <slitherxx> thanks.
[07:44] <execrator771> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26409
[07:44] <execrator771> extended or primary?
[07:44] <Keyseir> looks like it uses 5801 and 5901.. hm
[07:44] <joeCoT> if it allows you to pick primary, do so
[07:45] <execrator771> now, i've got windows installed on this hard drive. does that matter?
[07:45] <Keyseir> How do I figure out what my local IP address is?
[07:45] <joeCoT> adding a new partition won't affect that
[07:45] <execrator771> ifconfig eth0
[07:45] <joeCoT> you'd have to _delete_ the other one to lose windows
[07:45] <joeCoT> or format it
[07:45] <execrator771> ok
[07:46] <execrator771> partition number?
[07:46] <wastrel> Keyseir:  ifconfig -a
[07:46] <joeCoT> doesn't matter. 2
[07:46] <Keyseir> wastrel: thank you
[07:47] <joeCoT> unless you're making another partition or something, make the size be the rest of the drive -- probably the default
[07:47] <Keyseir> so the stuff under "local loopback"?
[07:47] <execrator771> ok
[07:47] <execrator771> it says "command (m for help)"
[07:47] <joeCoT> hit p, then enter
[07:47] <joeCoT> and pastebin it
[07:48] <Jbirk> Have any of you heard of the Tornato Fan from Vantec?
[07:48] <execrator771> question: does this leave no more space for windows?
[07:48] <joeCoT> exec: you already have windows installed, right? this won't affect the windows partition at all
[07:48] <aidanr> lansing, in a terminal type: sudo chown -R lansing /home/lansing/
[07:48] <SpaceFrog> Does anyone know of a program that will read .chm files? (They're compiled HTML/Windows Help documents)
[07:49] <execrator771> i know but isnt this using up the rest of my hard disk? to where all the free space i had is being taken up by linux?
[07:49] <execrator771> i dont mean to sound like an idiot, forgive me
[07:49] <wastrel> execrator771:  how big is the drive total?
[07:50] <pacman> Anyone know how I can  improve my 3d acceleration?
[07:50] <execrator771> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26410
[07:50] <joeCoT> exec: that's alright. basically, you've already partitioned off a slice for windows. the size of the free space on the windows partition doesn't change at all by doing this. if you had 35gb or whatever free in windows before, you still do. all we're doing is partitioning unallocated space
[07:50] <execrator771> 80GB
[07:50] <THX-1138> pacman are you using an nvidia card?
[07:51] <joeCoT> exec: okay, it looks like you made the windows partition much bigger than you thought you did
[07:51] <execrator771> oh i see
[07:51] <execrator771> its like 76 gb huh
[07:51] <THX-1138> Option "RenderAccel" "true"
[07:52] <joeCoT> exec: yep. some of that might be overhead from the format. windows isn't very good at making the partition the size you tell it to ;)
[07:52] <wastrel> yeah you have one big windows partition basically
[07:52] <wastrel> you need to shrink that to free up some space on the drive.
[07:52] <wastrel> for lunix <3
[07:52] <execrator771> there is 45 gb or so free o0n the drive
[07:52] <pacman> THX-no I'm using a Radeon
[07:53] <joeCoT> exec: there's 45 gb free in the windows _partition_
[07:53] <execrator771> yes
[07:53] <execrator771> so how do i shrink that and make room for linux?
[07:53] <THX-1138> pacman - no real experience with an ati card. i have a link though
[07:53] <THX-1138> !ati
[07:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:53] <joeCoT> exec: so in order for that to do linux any good, you'd need to resize the windows partition so there's room for a linux one. you understand
[07:53] <joeCoT> exec: good question :)
[07:54] <wastrel> execrator771:  the physical space on the drive is partitioned into logical chunks, the NTFS partition takes up the whole drive.  in order to install linux you need to shrink the NTFS partition to free up unpartitioned space for a linux partition
[07:54] <wastrel> also:  "partition"
[07:54] <aidanr>  /msg nickserv link aidanr kF4g] q$
[07:54] <pacman> THX: thanks, I"ve already done everything there
[07:54] <aidanr> oops
[07:54] <execrator771> i see
[07:55] <execrator771> so maybe a defrag will do the trick? or no
[07:55] <Keyseir_> Which entry on the ifconfig -a is my local IP? The first I assume?
[07:56] <execrator771> keyseir: eth0
[07:56] <Keyseir_> thx
[07:56] <execrator771> so any ideas?
[07:57] <wastrel> execrator771:  you should defrag, then you will have to use a tool to resize the windows partition
[07:57] <execrator771> do you know of such a tool?
[07:57] <wastrel> gparted, which i believe is part of the installer
[07:57] <execrator771> how do i run gparted?
[07:58] <yakumo> hi, is there a way i can install my MSI bluetooth on my ubuntu?
[07:58] <wastrel> execrator771:  hopefully someone else will help :]   ask after you defrag windows
[07:58] <THX-1138> pacman - Here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3567
[07:58] <wastrel> gotta get to bed :] 
[07:58] <execrator771> thanks bro
[07:58] <joeCoT> exec: in the installer, there's an option for resizing your partitions. you probably want to have your data backed up before messing with it, because no partition resizing always goes well
[07:59] <execrator771> i have an external i can back up to
[07:59] <nomin> I'm having audio problems with wine.  What does this message mean?:  "fixme:wave:ESD_AddRingMessage two fast messages in the queue!!!!"
[07:59] <execrator771> remember though, i've tried resizing it with the installer, and it dosen't work
[08:00] <execrator771> is there anothre tool, maybe a windoze tool that can do it?
[08:00] <joeCoT> exec: partition magic (aka partition tragic)
[08:00] <execrator771> LOL ok, i'll have to pay for that huh, but i guess i could find a crack or something
[08:01] <snoops> hey how can I refresh the list of mounted drives - which show up on my desktop and in places>removable media? I've mounted another drive and it's not showing up in there..if I reboot it'll show up..but how do I refresh it without rebooting?
[08:01] <THX-1138> fsck file system check
[08:01] <q_a_z_steve> How do I use qemu to boot a CD?
[08:01] <AsheD> in bash, can I call something like 'mkdir "$temp/something/blah"', where $temp = '/some/host/here' ?  or do I need to use "${temp}/something/blah"
[08:01] <pacman> THX: I'd assume this is the same from Ubuntu to Kubuntu
[08:02] <THX-1138> snoops  sudo mount -a
[08:02] <snoops> yeah tried that THX-1138..no go
[08:03] <execrator771> thanks a million guys, i'll stay in here in case i have any problems
[08:03] <buscommando> Can anyone help me test ekiga?
[08:03] <wickedpuppy> snoops, that is the gnome problem isn't it ? i assume the disk is mounted properly but gnome not updating the menu ?
[08:03] <THX-1138> !ntfs
[08:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:03] <joeCoT> exec: alright. i'm heading out after i get nvidia working in edgy :D
[08:03] <snoops> exactly wickedpuppy
[08:03] <execrator771> youre using eft? how is it?
[08:03] <snoops> it is mounted properly, and I can access it, but gnome isn't updating
[08:04] <wickedpuppy> snoops, well short of rebooting you can restart X ... alt-ctrl-backspace
[08:04] <aidanr> snoops, try killing nautilus
[08:04] <snoops> blah..too many windows open to do that
[08:04] <pacman> THX:  I don't have the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file
[08:04] <snoops> okay I'll kill naut
[08:04] <snoops> just killall nautilus?
[08:04] <aidanr> yup
[08:05] <wickedpuppy> snoops, btw is it same in kubuntu ? i am curious if kde also has this problem
[08:05] <AsheD> :(
[08:05] <snoops> I don't have kubuntu, so don't know wickedpuppy
[08:06] <wickedpuppy> ah k .. thanks snoops
[08:06] <wickedpuppy> btw did it work ?
[08:06] <snoops> yep aidanr, done that..and still no go
[08:06] <wickedpuppy> i guess no ...
[08:06] <badkitty> Can anyone help me? I am new to linux and Im trying to get my wireless card working.
[08:06] <snoops> all the icons on desktop disappeared then started again
[08:07] <wickedpuppy> let me do the war cry.... kill X! kill X! kill X! ... does it make you feel like killing X snoops ?
[08:07] <badkitty> i returned my old PCI card and changed it for one that showed up on the wiki as being supported by ubuntu
[08:07] <snoops> no it doesn't.. it's not that important
[08:07] <snoops> just frustrating
[08:07] <wickedpuppy> ah k
[08:07] <snoops> I've got like 50 windows/apps open over 4 desktops..so restarting x is not an option
[08:08] <wickedpuppy> alrighty!
[08:09] <snoops> I'll try unmounting the drive
[08:09] <snoops> with no naut windows open
[08:09] <snoops> then sudo mount -a again..then killing naut
[08:09] <yangsup> firefoxGTK Accessibility Module initialized
 The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
 This probably reflects a bug in the program.
 The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
   (Details: serial 134 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 3)
   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[08:09] <oskude> !paste > yangsup
[08:09] <joeCoT> exec: it's alright. it broke my beryl install >_<
[08:10] <joeCoT> luckily this isn't my main machine. my laptop is now
[08:10] <yangsup> why?
[08:10] <oskude> yangsup: read what ubotu told you !
[08:11] <yangsup> 6.10
[08:13] <mnepton> badkitty: what does ifconfig tell you?
[08:14] <badkitty> It shows that I have wlan0 but i don't have an Ip address... i tried DHclient and got no response
[08:15] <badkitty> I tried iwlist wlan0 scan and got no scan results
[08:15] <mnepton> badkitty: what else is there besides wlan0?
[08:15] <badkitty> wmaster0
[08:15] <badkitty> lo
[08:15] <mnepton> badkitty: eht0, lo, etc etc
[08:15] <mnepton> *eth0
[08:16] <mnepton> badkitty: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[08:17] <badkitty> I cant use that because I dont have a hard line connection.. But I tried to install the package from my thumb drive and it says i have unmet dependencies
[08:18] <mnepton> badkitty: it needs network-manager and other things. use Synaptic on the networked machine to find the deps and get them.
[08:18] <badkitty> libdbus-1-2?
[08:19] <badkitty> My networked machine has windows...I found the network-manager and the gnome version... but there are still unmet dependencies
[08:19] <joeCoT> bah. nvidia's still giving me errors >_< i'm now just searching the machine for the kernel module so i can manually delete the thing
[08:19] <shwag> i plugged a USB drive in. how do I mount it manually from the command line?
[08:19] <q_a_z_steve> Is there a way to get to network locations in Term?
[08:20] <shwag> where is it in dev ?
[08:20] <shwag> q_a_z_steve, smbtree
[08:20] <oskude> shwag: normally it should automaticly mount... and normally its in /dev/sda1
[08:20] <mnepton> badkitty: how did you get that stuff on the thumb drive? do that again for the other dependencies.
[08:20] <shwag> oskude, uhh...isn't /dev/sda1 my main hard drive ?
[08:21] <mnepton> shwag: only if you have SCSI/SATA
[08:21] <oskude> shwag: uhh...dunno
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[08:21] <oskude> shwag: my (ide) main hard drive is at /dev/hda
[08:21] <badkitty> Right... its just hard for me to find them.. Im new to ubuntu.. and repositories.. Im just using google to find them.. its not the best method.. any suggestions?
[08:21] <oskude> !repos > badkitty
[08:22] <mnepton> badkitty: use Synaptic, search for network-manager-gnome and look at the package's details. dependencies are listed there.
[08:22] <q_a_z_steve> shwag: so how do I CD on over there?
[08:22] <savvas> good morning! does anyone know any fancy on screen display for gnome that shows some hardware/software info and uptime?
[08:22] <savvas> PleAt44: stop advertising on join
[08:23] <q_a_z_steve> torsmo
[08:23] <mnepton> brb
[08:23] <stonarmusic> who the f is pleatt45, and why is he/she/it spamming me about laptops?
[08:23] <oskude> !gkrellm > savvas
[08:23] <mnepton> !ops
[08:23] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:24] <savvas> oh danke, let's see
[08:24] <DBO> mnepton?
[08:24] <robin> Hey all. Is Edgy safe to use?
[08:24] <DBO> robin, no
[08:24] <joeCoT> lol
[08:24] <q_a_z_steve> as safe as any testing
[08:24] <wickedpuppy> DBO, if you leave and come back i think you will know why mnepton called for help ..
[08:24] <mnepton> DBO: /mode #ubuntu +b *!*exact@ip*.ph.ph.cox.net (please) :)
[08:25] <oskude> DBO: PleAt44 is spamming PM's on login (selling laptops on low price:)
[08:25] <mnepton> I KISS YOU!

[08:25] <DBO> im not gonna ban half of cox just yet, but if he comes back let me know
[08:26] <savvas> lol
[08:26] <DBO> we'll whip him up a k-line
[08:26] <mnepton> DBO: well, include the ident and it's not quite half of Cox ;)
[08:26] <mnepton> DBO: but that works.
[08:26] <q_a_z_steve> question is what is similar to torsmo but in the repositories?
[08:26] <MystaMax> hello, when I load perl scripts (twiki) in my browser, it does not parse the script?? why is that??
[08:27] <mnepton> MystaMax: got mod-perl installed and loaded?
[08:27] <joeCoT> bah. to remove linux-restricted-drivers, i have to remove xgl, xserver, ....
[08:27] <oskude> MystaMax: did you open it as file://blah or http://blah ?
[08:27] <mnepton> MystaMax: if so, does apache understand the MIME type and handler?
[08:28] <q_a_z_steve> shwag: so how do I CD on over there?
[08:28] <MystaMax> oskude, http://localhost/twiki   - I'm familar with php, just not perl
[08:29] <oskude> MystaMax: me too :) i assume you need a module for apache... look what mnepton said...
[08:29] <q_a_z_steve> Is there a way to get to network locations in Term?
[08:29] <q_a_z_steve> Operative word TO
[08:30] <Gasten> Hi. I accedently ... pressed something in aumix (a mixing-program), and now I don't have any sound. Is there some kind if app that can check the best card-preferences automaticly? I don't know _anything_ about sound(cards).
[08:30] <MystaMax> mnepton, i assume  libapache2-mod-perl2 is the correct package
[08:30] <MystaMax> i dont have that installed
[08:30] <oskude> q_a_z_steve: if you mean samba, please say so... other wise you could use "ssh user@ip" to get to another machine...
[08:30] <shwag> q_a_z_steve, smbmount most likely
[08:30] <crimsun> Gasten: pastebin your ``amixer'' output
[08:30] <yakumo> how do i install .tar sofhware?
[08:31] <Keyseir_> I forwarded the vnc ports to my local ip but when I viewer into my regular IP I don't get anything =(
[08:31] <q_a_z_steve> yes samba sorry. I also have noticed I don't have anything being shared even if I try?
[08:31] <Keyseir_> I guess I either don't have the right IP or didn't forward it properly
[08:31] <overrider> i want to download all those security updates to a central repository, and have other ubuntu machines download from there. any ideas on how to accomplish this?
[08:31] <q_a_z_steve> from my UBuntu box.
[08:31] <oskude> yakumo: you mean install software that is packed in a .tar.gz ? that depeneds ints just a zipped package that can contain _anything_
[08:31] <bioticpro> Is xDVDShrink or K9Copy better?
[08:32] <Tonren> Hey guys, there is a workgroup on the Windows Network that I can access from Windows, but in Linux when I try to access it via Nautilus, I get a "could not display all the contents of this folder" error.
[08:32] <yakumo> im trying to install ypop any idea what to download
[08:32] <oskude> overrider: a local repo mirror... but i never done that (yet)...
[08:32] <Gasten> crimsun: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2174
[08:32] <mnepton> MystaMax: with no mod-perl, apache cannot process perl scripts. that's your biggest problem.
[08:32] <oskude> yakumo: dunno, never heard...
[08:33] <joeCoT> is there a way to mark a package as not broken?
[08:33] <yakumo> ok thnks anyway
[08:33] <MystaMax> mnepton, ok I'm going to attempt to install  libapache2-mod-perl2
[08:33] <yakumo> any idea how can i use my evolution mail to open my yahoo mail?
[08:34] <mnepton> yakumo: only possible if you have paid Y! for POP/IMAP access. free accounts are web-only, unless something has changed recently.
[08:34] <oskude> yakumo: didnt you ask that yesterday ? or was it someone else...
[08:35] <yakumo> yes
[08:35] <yakumo> that how i know about jpop
[08:35] <Gasten> crimsun: Are you there?
[08:35] <mnepton> yakumo: free Y! mail accounts do not get POP or IMAP access, AFAIK.
[08:35] <oskude> yakumo: hmm, i just did "apt-cache search yahoo" an i found this "fetchyahoo - Retrieve mail from Yahoo!'s webmail service" (among others)
[08:35] <crimsun> Gasten: yes, give me a sec, please
[08:36] <savvas> oskude: do you know any application with text only?
[08:36] <oskude> savvas: for what ?
[08:36] <yakumo> and any idea how can i install my MSI bluetooth on my ubuntu?
[08:36] <savvas> like gkrellm you said previously
[08:37] <oskude> savvas: ah, no, sorry
[08:37] <savvas> ok thanks :)
[08:38] <oskude> savvas: but i think there are lot "daemons" that monitor your system and provide that info over snmp/http/what ever
[08:38] <crimsun> Gasten: amixer set 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' on && amixer set 'Wave' 80% && amixer set 'Wave Center' 80% && amixer set 'Wave LFE' 80% && amixer set 'Wave Surround' 80%
[08:38] <tarelerulz> Ok I am really lost do any of you ever compile program  with ubuntu
[08:38] <savvas> hm.. like lm-sensors?
[08:39] <oskude> savvas: never had hardware sensors, so dunno about that...
[08:39] <savvas> oh ok :)
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, yes ? i am doing c now ...
[08:39] <joeCoT> any way to trick apt into thinking linux-restricted modules is installed? :)
[08:39] <oskude> tarelerulz: i compiled in ubuntu, but not with ubuntu ;)
[08:39] <q_a_z_steve> so after I "mount -t smbfs -o username=James,password=turnip2910 //SLICK/Mickey /data/test" where is the share? df doesn't show it and I can't cd over to any /data...
[08:39] <tarelerulz> The reason I ask if I try to compile mplayer and I got that I don't have the make command
[08:39] <Gasten> crimsun: Wow. I have no idea what you did, but it worked like hell. Thanks! Tell me if I can help you with something sometimes :)
[08:40] <oskude> !build > tarelerulz
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, why you need to compile mplayer ?? its in the repo ...
[08:40] <tarelerulz> I can't seem to find it
[08:40] <tarelerulz> It does not show up
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> !mplayer
[08:40] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:40] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:40] <KEA0463> hey guess what
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, its in the multiverse ... is it enabled on your com ?
[08:40] <q_a_z_steve> so after I "mount -t smbfs -o username=James,password=dumbpass //SLICK/Mickey /data/test" where is the share? df doesn't show it and I can't cd over to any /data...
[08:41] <KEA0463> i finally learned how to use wine
[08:41] <tarelerulz> How do you enable mulitivers
[08:41] <oskude> !repos > tarelerulz
[08:41] <KEA0463> my problem was i needed to be in the right directory for wine to work
[08:41] <marshall> when you install apache, shouldnt there be a /var/www/ path where you put the files you wish to be available on the internet?
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> marshall, yes
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> there is ...
[08:42] <marshall> ok
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> you mean you havn't installed apache ?
[08:42] <tarelerulz> I am not meaning to sound dumb ,but I thought I enable all the repos there was for ubuntu
[08:42] <oskude> marshall: and a dir named "public_html" in your home dir...
[08:42] <KEA0463> cd ~/Desktop
[08:42] <Tonren> Hey guys, there is a workgroup on the Windows Network that I can access from Windows, but in Linux when I try to access it via Nautilus, I get a "could not display all the contents of this folder" error.
[08:43] <KEA0463> changes your directory to desktop
[08:43] <marshall> i installed apache on my Archlinux server and there is no /var/www dir (wickedpuppy, oskude)
[08:43] <KEA0463> i have finally seen the light
[08:43] <marshall> i just wanted to know how things were supposed to be in ubuntu
[08:43] <KEA0463> ubuntu is heavenly
[08:44] <wickedpuppy> marshall, this is ubuntu ....
[08:44] <oskude> marshall: well, atleas apache2 in ubuntu makes /var/www (or was it even before that there, dunno)
[08:44] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, can paste your sources.list on the pastebin pls ?
[08:44] <marshall> oskude, ohh, thanks
[08:44] <MystaMax> mnepton, ok I got the module installed, and I see perl in the mods-availabe and mods-enabled directory, when i run configtest on apache its OK, but i still can't get the scripts to parse
[08:44] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, ~ means /home/username in all linux .... in case you think its just for ubuntu :P
[08:45] <KEA0463> yeah that was my problem the whole time
[08:45] <oskude> MystaMax: i would google...
[08:45] <KEA0463> i couldnt get no linux to work
[08:45] <tarelerulz> thanks ubotu
[08:45] <KEA0463> directories
[08:46] <KEA0463> for such a simple concept its hard to learn if you dont have a clue
[08:46] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, join a local linux group .. i always find it easiest for new users to learn
[08:46] <KEA0463> ok
[08:46] <MystaMax> oskude, i wonder if perl scripts need file extensions to be parsed?
[08:47] <oskude> MystaMax: afaik, apache goes by extension...
[08:47] <oskude> MystaMax: as you see in configs, accosiacated to like .php
[08:47] <MystaMax> yep
[08:48] <KEA0463> i am churning out C++ programs now!!!
[08:48] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, where ? vi? emacs ?
[08:49] <KEA0463> Anjuta
[08:49] <anomaly> My Dapper install on my laptop has stopped setting DNS servers when it picks up an IP address by DHCP. Any idea why this would be so?
[08:49] <wickedpuppy> haaaa :P  happy coding!!!
[08:49] <mOrO^> How do I get the ISO image file of the ubuntu off of a dvd to START???
[08:49] <KEA0463> always C++ is Fun!!!!
[08:50] <KEA0463> }
[08:50] <Kragnerac> Python. :P
[08:50] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, i prefer C ... but to each his own :P
[08:50] <oskude> anomaly: maybe cause your router is not "online" ?
[08:50] <Kragnerac> Ahhh, Python scripts.... :)
[08:50] <KEA0463> ++ the excitement
[08:51] <anomaly> oskude: It isn't location specific. And everything works fine as soon as I set the DNS manually.
[08:51] <Kragnerac> I wonder, who works with Visual Basic...
[08:51] <KEA0463> not me
[08:51] <Polaris> can comeone please help me...i cant get sound
[08:51] <Kragnerac> The language of evil.
[08:51] <Polaris> arghh
[08:51] <mOrO^> I have ubuntu iso image on dvd, but cant get it started? Any suggestions?
[08:52] <oskude> mOrO^: how did you burn the image ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[08:52] <mOrO^> oskude: Ill check.
[08:52] <hyby> i i have an intel ICH6 sound card within in my laptop
[08:52] <hyby> i have tried toggling with alsamixer
[08:52] <hyby> i am using 6.06.1
[08:53] <mOrO^> oskude: I didnt make it bootable :(
[08:53] <KEA0463> ouch
[08:53] <oskude> mOrO^: common mistake...
[08:54] <mOrO^> oskude: ok... Ill reburn.
[08:54] <oskude> mOrO^: means you have to burn it "as image" not just some drag and drop...
[08:54] <oskude> mOrO^: and before you burn, i would usggest to check the md5sum...
[08:54] <mOrO^> oskude: my burner has an image dialog... so I can make an ISO image and also an option to make it bootable.
[08:55] <oskude> mOrO^: ok ...
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> it asked and you set it to no ?
[08:56] <tarelerulz> I am lost mplayer is said to be in the dapper repos ,but I don't see it when I do search
[08:56] <oskude> !repos > tarelerulz
[08:56] <mOrO^> oskude: ok.
[08:56] <hyby> does anyone have an intel ICH6 sound card and managed to get it to work in ubuntu 6.06.1
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> eh oskude he seen it before
[08:56] <tarelerulz> Ok
[08:56] <tarelerulz> how do you turn them on
[08:57] <tarelerulz> that is all I want to know
[08:57] <oskude> wickedpuppy: then it should work... if he follows the guide---
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, can you paste your sources.list on the pastebin ?
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> oskude, ok ... well then i go back to C ... tarelerulz pls follow the guide
[08:57] <tarelerulz> I am not dumb I really don't see it come up
[08:58] <tarelerulz> I seclected all the repositories
[08:58] <tarelerulz> and the same thing seems to happen
[08:58] <defrysk> tarelerulz, and upgraded them too ?
[08:58] <tarelerulz> how how do I do that
[08:58] <defrysk> updated I should say
[08:58] <MaKaTiGuY> Oskude: hi
[08:58] <oskude> tarelerulz: i don know how the gui does it (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu) but on terminal you could do "sudo apt-get update" and then try to find mplayer
[08:59] <defrysk> tarelerulz, in synaptic refresh
[08:59] <tarelerulz> ok
[08:59] <defrysk> in the cli sudo apt-get update
[08:59] <defrysk> whateve you prefer
[09:00] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: ho
[09:00] <tarelerulz> I hit relaod on gui synaptic
[09:00] <tarelerulz> I hoe that is what you mean
[09:00] <oskude> tarelerulz: sounds good
[09:00] <defrysk> oskude, Microsoft does not really recommend people to read ... ;p
[09:00] <tarelerulz> and I have done sudo apt-get updates before
[09:01] <wickedpuppy> oskude, and rtfm is banned here ... :P for everyone's happiness i should add
[09:01] <oskude> wickedpuppy: no wonder...
[09:01] <AsheD> you can do RAID5 with 4 drives, right?  like 3 in stripe, 1 for parity?
[09:01] <oskude> wickedpuppy: is it then RTFB ? :P
[09:01] <tarelerulz> I am lost
[09:01] <tarelerulz> I did reload and the same stuff comes up
[09:02] <defrysk> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:02] <wickedpuppy> oskude, try it ... if you didnt get k-lined .. i will follow :P
[09:02] <defrysk> I have to go..
[09:02] <defrysk> later all
[09:02] <wickedpuppy> later
[09:02] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: i downloaded lots of application but i cant find them
[09:03] <tarelerulz> root@ubuntu-tarel:/etc# apt-get install mplayer
[09:03] <tarelerulz> Reading package lists... Done
[09:03] <tarelerulz> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:03] <tarelerulz> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:03] <tarelerulz> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:03] <tarelerulz> is only available from another source
[09:03] <tarelerulz> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[09:03] <czer323> Any comments about fglrx/mplayer and xv?
[09:03] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: with firefox ? at default it downloads them to ~/Desktop
[09:03] <oskude> !paste > tarelerulz
[09:03] <oskude> tarelerulz: apt-cache search mplayer
[09:03] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: synaptic
[09:03] <Ramunas> hello :)
[09:04] <tarelerulz> you can see that It says I can't get it
[09:04] <cactus_sediento> hello everybody...how can i make a fsck?...need the hard disk unmounted...
[09:04] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: ah, well not all programs get to the gnome start menu...
[09:04] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: so where can i find them
[09:04] <oskude> tarelerulz: apt-cache search mplayer (and install the appropiate mplayer-foo)
[09:04] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY, name one program ...
[09:05] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: the executables are mostly in /usr/bin, and thats allso in your system path, so you just type the program comman on terminal, or in alt+f2
[09:06] <cactus_sediento> my disk close unexpectadly yesterday....now would like to check it for errors....
[09:08] <cactus_sediento> somebody can advice about a hardware diagnostic tool?
[09:09] <anilomkar> can u suggest me a good download manager for ubuntu
[09:09] <wickedpuppy> ?
[09:10] <wickedpuppy> actually i havn't download big files for long time ... lol
[09:10] <wickedpuppy> sorry .. can't think of one ..
[09:11] <MaKaTiGuY> wicked: gnomp3
[09:11] <anilomkar> wickedpuppy, what u will use for downloading files...
[09:11] <wickedpuppy> anilomkar, files ? how big are the files ? what kind of files ?
[09:11] <wickedpuppy> i use azureus ...
[09:11] <anilomkar> wickedpuppy, they about 150 MB and that is java installation file
[09:11] <wickedpuppy> if that gives ya any clues ... including linux ISOs ... most distros got torrents
[09:12] <snoops> there's d4x which is a fairly popular download manager..can be used like flashget on windows.. there's a couple of other cli only ones too, but I forget the names
[09:12] <wickedpuppy> anilomkar, firefox ? my connection is pretty stable ..
[09:12] <|thunder> anilomkar; try aria
[09:12] <|thunder> is like getright kinda
[09:12] <Tru7h> Having serious graphical errors on my computer when running Ubuntu. Can anybody help?
[09:12] <oskude> snoops: wget -c is enough...
[09:12] <|thunder> just make sure to save a .list file ,..
[09:12] <wickedpuppy> anilomkar, for that size , i care not about the download program ... for 10+ gig yes ...
[09:12] <oskude> !help > Tru7h
[09:13] <oskude> eeh
[09:13] <oskude> !helpme > Tru7h
[09:13] <snoops> oskude.. ah but wget doesn't create many connections for the same file at once, each downloading it's own portion..this is how all download accelorators work..plus you can't really 'manage' wgets that easily
[09:13] <Tru7h> Yeah, okay. Well, Windows XP works fine but when I run Ubuntu the screen's split into two and it's all flickery and stuff.
[09:14] <Tru7h> It's a Dell Inspiron 8000, I think it must be the graphics card.
[09:14] <oskude> snoops: ok, never needed that as i mostly get full bandwith with one connections... and using more connections for one file is very lame...
[09:15] <snoops> heh, with 10mbit you usually do need multiple..just how it goes :)
[09:15] <oskude> Tru7h: yup, seen that on my latitude, definetly driver problem... its an ati chip right ?
[09:15] <wickedpuppy> snoops, i am on 65 mbps ...
[09:15] <Tru7h> oskude: ATI, yeah. Do you know how I can fix it?
[09:16] <snoops> cool wickedpuppy.. close to the swedes on 100mbit ;)
[09:16] <oskude> Tru7h: which ati chip is it ? (i use "ati" driver with 1600x1200x24bit, other bit rated cause that "split")
[09:16] <wickedpuppy> snoops, soon there will be public wifi countrywide here ... in 2 years singapore will have wifi everywhere.. :P
[09:16] <wickedpuppy> even sweeter
[09:17] <Tru7h> oskdude: It's 1400x1050x32bit.
[09:17] <Tru7h> oskude: The card is "ATI Mobility 128 AGP 4x"
[09:17] <wickedpuppy> 1400X1050 ? thats odd resolution ... wide screen or something ?
[09:18] <Tru7h> Nope. lol
[09:18] <oskude> Tru7h: ehm, im no ...dude ;) is that the max resolution that the lcd can ? rage128 ?
[09:18] <Tru7h> I dunno. I'm not great at this graphics stuff.
[09:18] <hyby> sorry about this bbut i was wondering whether someone can help my with my sound problems
[09:19] <Tru7h> This 'book has had graphic problems for awhile... sometimes when I run fullscreen programs it's like super-tiny and centered in the screen.
[09:19] <oskude> Tru7h: hmm, try changing the driver to "r128" with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or manually with "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:19] <Tru7h> oskude: I'll try that. :)
[09:20] <Tru7h> oskude: Hmm... maybe I should try it in Windows instead, since it's pretty damn hard to use Ubuntu with a dysfunctional display.
[09:20] <snoops> 1400x1050 is a 3:4 res if I'm not mistaken
[09:20] <hyby> IS anyone experience with intel ICH6 sound cards
[09:20] <oskude> Tru7h: try what in windows ?
[09:20] <snoops> it just looks a bit odd, since it's close to 1280x1024 which isn't a 4:3 res
[09:20] <Tru7h> oskude: Getting a better driver.
[09:21] <oskude> Tru7h: aha... and how is that gonna help your problem ?
[09:21] <Tru7h> oskude: Why wouldn't it?
[09:21] <oskude> Tru7h: the driver "r128" is allready in ubuntu, you just need to load it...
[09:21] <Tru7h> Alrighty. Let's see how this goes.
[09:21] <oskude> Tru7h: and windows doesnt know anything about linux/ubuntu, so you cant even mount the linux partition :/
[09:22] <superm1> hey guys.  i'm looking to be able to run /etc/acpi/sleep.sh as a user with sudo permissions but without entering a password.  I've added %admin ALL= NOPASSWD: /etc/acpi to my /etc/sudoers file, but it still demands my password when trying
[09:22] <Tru7h> oskude: Yeah... I'm a newb.
[09:22] <Tru7h> I'm learning though.
[09:22] <oskude> Tru7h: first lesson: forget all you learned in windows :)
[09:22] <snoops> oskude yes you can..you can use the ext2(which supports ext3) driver from fs-driver.org on windows to read/write ext3 volumes
[09:22] <Tru7h> oskude: No worries there. I never learned anything using Windows.
[09:22] <oskude> Tru7h: except if you used "cmd" under windows
[09:23] <Tru7h> oskude: I suppose that does count for something, doesn't it?
[09:23] <oskude> snoops: yup. but thats not installed by default in windows...
[09:23] <Tru7h> It's like a crappier ver of terminal with less features. :)
[09:23] <knoppix> im amazed that there are so many thousands of commands within the root shelll
[09:24] <oskude> Tru7h: just implifying that if you know how to navigate in cmd/dos, that will help in ubuntu...
[09:24] <knoppix> im very new to nux
[09:24] <wickedpuppy> Tru7h, calling it a terminal insults bash ...
[09:24] <Tru7h> wickedpuppy: How so? I call it terminal because that's its name... lol
[09:24] <wickedpuppy> Tru7h, learn bash and you will know why .... all your init.d scripts are in bash
[09:25] <Tru7h> wickedpuppy: I don't know anything about bash yet.
[09:25] <coyctecm> even pure sh is so much better than windows cmd stuff
[09:25] <knoppix> damn...when will windows die? i want full gaming support in ubuntu, rome total war, civ4 full native mode
[09:25] <wickedpuppy> agreed ...
[09:26] <Tru7h> knoppix: As long as people are willing to sacrifice functionality for interface, Windows will live on.
[09:26] <oskude> knoppix: then start spamming the makers to make a linux client...
[09:26] <hoelk> anyone here uses amarok with replay gain script?
[09:26] <coyctecm> games should become open source too.
[09:26] <coyctecm> not free as in beer, but as in speech
[09:27] <wickedpuppy> coyctecm, then will you make them ?
[09:27] <knoppix> and whats up with the lack of debian format support...seems all the new hardware is being put for rpms
[09:28] <pablozzz> hi all
[09:28] <superm1> knoppix, what sort of hardware are you missing support for that is provided in rpms?
[09:28] <wickedpuppy> knoppix, servers ... two biggest guys in server are redhat and suse
[09:28] <oskude> !ontopic
[09:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:28] <coyctecm> wickedpuppy: what do you mean? whole software business should change, I know it's nearly impossible at the moment, but it will change some day
[09:29] <wickedpuppy> coyctecm, the real money for linux now is in servers + support .. and who are the top two guys ?
[09:29] <Bedo> Yes, i think that too
[09:29] <hyby> sorry but i was wondering if anyone here can assist me with my sound problem with ubuntu
[09:29] <oskude> !ask
[09:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:30] <coyctecm> wickedpuppy: yes i know what you mean
[09:30] <coyctecm> damn my english is bad right now... i'm too tired :D
[09:30] <mOrO^> My DVD ISO image boots to a dos prompt.
[09:31] <tarelerulz> Thanks you guy I am off to get stuff so I can build mplayer
[09:31] <mnepton> iso of what?
[09:31] <knoppix> ....im still getting over the last nightmare i had ...woke up in a cold sweat with images of the BSOD in my mind...
[09:31] <mOrO^> mnepton: ubuntu install dvd
[09:31] <knoppix> im not kidding....
[09:31] <oskude> mOrO^: well, that was propably that "make it bootable" option in your wonderfull burning program...
[09:31] <mnepton> mOrO^: i can assure that the Ubuntu Install DVD does not have a DOS prompt
[09:32] <Tru7h> My entire school uses WinXP. I can use CMD to shut down any of the computers. It's fun to annoy people. :P
[09:32] <mOrO^> mnepton: it goes to a:\
[09:32] <Tru7h> They didn't even block regedit...
[09:32] <coyctecm> dos prompt in ubuntu install? WTF? :)
[09:32] <mOrO^> drdos or something
[09:32] <mnepton> mOrO^: that's not Ubuntu
[09:32] <preaction> Tru7h, my LIBRARY is better-secured than your school
[09:32] <mnepton> mOrO^: Linux has *absolutely* no conception of drive letters.
[09:32] <Tru7h> preaction: I can imagine.
[09:32] <oskude> mOrO^: read the helpfile of your burning tool to see what that "make bootable" really does!
[09:32] <bdgraue> hello, can someone help to get my thunderbird back on work?   mozilla-thunderbird
[09:32] <bdgraue> DOUBLE-CLICK: 300 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1
[09:32] <bdgraue> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:32] <mnepton> mOrO^: if you are seeing a drive letter, it ain't Linux.
[09:32] <mOrO^> oskude: ok.
[09:33] <mOrO^> mnepton: ok
[09:33] <knoppix> omg! got root?
[09:33] <Tru7h> I'm still trying to grasp that concept, I'm so used to drive letters. What exactly does Linux use as a substitute? How can I access my Windows C: from Ubuntu?
[09:33] <mOrO^> oskude: dont make no difference now... Im out of dvds now. SHITEFIRE.
[09:33] <mnepton> Tru7h: Unix sees everything as one, big filesystem
[09:33] <knoppix> root beer...ginseng root...root slashdot
[09:34] <oskude> Tru7h: fisrt, C: is not a partition, its a mount point... so first you have to find where c: is mounted, which partitio on which disk
[09:34] <POVaddct> Tru7h: we are /proc/partitions of borg. drive letters are irrelevant. you will be fdisk'ed.
[09:34] <deadcat> can i run compiz without gnome/kde?
[09:35] <gumbah> ?
[09:36] <Tru7h> Hmm.
[09:37] <shinobi2> my ubuntu's clock on the upper right hand corner disappear, how do i get it out?
[09:37] <oskude> Tru7h: and if "c:" is a ntfs partition, i wouldn write to it from ubuntu, but reading is (mostly) not dangerous...
[09:37] <knoppix> there is no escape from winbloze
[09:37] <knoppix> you have to dual boot to play games
[09:37] <Ayabara> Anyone using emacs? The fonts in my emacs are _ugly_ and I need some help pimping it
[09:37] <mnepton> knoppix: thankfully, you're wrong.
[09:37] <POVaddct> knoppix: i don't. no windoze here.
[09:37] <Tru7h> Windows reads my Linux as being installed on drives y: and z:.
[09:38] <wickedpuppy> knoppix, i been using linux only for 4 years now ...
[09:38] <oskude> Tru7h: omg, what format did you use for linux partitions ?
[09:38] <knoppix> find me something besides cedega trash that will play my games even at 3/4 speed and ill never look back too
[09:38] <POVaddct> Tru7h: forget what windows calls them. there are disks (like hda, hdb) and partitions (like hda1, hda5, ...)
[09:38] <knoppix> its like a damn leash around my neck
[09:38] <mnepton> oskude: he might have the win32/ext3 driver installed
[09:38] <oskude> mnepton: i doubt, but would be nice...
[09:39] <frandavid100> hola gente
[09:39] <Tru7h> mnepton, oskdude: That's what I did
[09:39] <POVaddct> Tru7h: numbers 1 to 4 are reserved for primary and extended partitions. logical partitions always start at number 5.
[09:39] <oskude> Tru7h: nice!
[09:39] <mnepton> knoppix: smart people use consoles for games, and get off the "bi-annual video card update and more RAM and a CPU overclocking and 3 Windows re-installs" treadmill
[09:40] <POVaddct> Tru7h: ide disk name are hda, hdb, hdc, ...  scsi and sata disk names are sda, sdb, sdc, ...
[09:40] <knoppix> consoles dont offer turn based strategy games w/ 3d acceleration, multiplayer support and sdk game development w/ mods
[09:40] <oskude> !ontopic
[09:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:40] <oskude> please!
[09:40] <mnepton> "You have to have Windows installed if you are going to use games," is basically saying, "I will sacrifice the stability and reliability of my computer, drastically limiting my ability to to get work done, in order to waste time."
[09:41] <SeraVitae> Hi there, my laptop has ubuntu on it. (that's it). I need to dual boot windows. I realise grub is going to freak out/be deleted/etc. Is there a guide for how to get dual booting back in this case?
[09:41] <knoppix> hey now....wasting time isn't what i would call it....gaming is never a waste of time
[09:41] <Vuen> what's up ubuntu, is there a way to lock a terminal such as tty1 without closing whatever program you're running in it?
[09:41] <mnepton> SeraVitae: many. Google for "restore grun ubuntu"
[09:41] <mnepton> *grub
[09:41] <Tru7h> mnepton: Was that a stab at video games? :P
[09:41] <hot_wheelz> Hi does anyone here have have a MythTv box using Ubuntu 6.06.1 a Asus P5B Deluxe,Asus 7300GT, Hauppauge Nova - T 500 Dual Digital PCI housed in a silverstone lc16m by any chance?
[09:41] <mnepton> Vuen: screen
[09:41] <POVaddct> oskude: explaining how linux names disks and partitions is on-topic IMHO
[09:42] <oskude> SeraVitae: you can get dualboot "only" with grub... or what do you mean ?
[09:42] <frandavid100> sorry, can someone running on dapper with tomboy installed see if they have a tomboy icon in /usr/share/pixmaps?
[09:42] <oskude> POVaddct: i was not referring to that
[09:42] <POVaddct> oskude: i see
[09:42] <shinobi2> how do i install xfce desktop?
[09:42] <frandavid100> it's because of this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/64102
[09:43] <mnepton> frandavid100: several, both xpm and png
[09:43] <shinobi2> how do i install fluxbox desktop?
[09:43] <oskude> !xfce > shinobi2
[09:43] <Vuen> mnepton, does screen work on tty1, or do i need to use it in x?
[09:43] <mnepton> Vuen: screen works in any terminal
[09:43] <Vuen> awesome thanks
[09:43] <mnepton> Vuen: man screen
[09:43] <frandavid100> mnepton: are they a simple yellow square?
[09:44] <shinobi2> !fluxbox  > shinobi2
[09:44] <shinobi2> oskude: thx
[09:44] <mnepton> frandavid100: no idea. want a tarball?
[09:44] <frandavid100> that would be sweet
[09:44] <mnepton> frandavid100: stand by
[09:44] <frandavid100> thanks a lot man :)
[09:44] <POVaddct> Vuen: screen simply rocks. it's THE one reason to use text based programs.
[09:44] <oskude> shinobi2: and (afaik) fluxbox is no "desktop" just a window manager...
[09:44] <Ahmuck> anybody get a linksys wusb54gc working in ubuntu ?
[09:45] <livingdaylight> whilst trying to install and enable nvidia 3d something has gone wrong. when i Cnt+Alt+Backspace the system freezes/stalls and i didn't see the nvidia logo like i was told to expect to. Fortunately, my old Xorgconf.files are backed up by default - right? and i just need to retrieve those. what is the command for retrieving backup, please?
[09:45] <livingdaylight> in the ubuntuguide to backup would be: sudo cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[09:45] <livingdaylight> In this given example how would i retrieve the backup would i need to as i do now with my xorg.confiles?
[09:45] <s-toned> How do I setup Ctrl-Alt-O as a shortcut for starting OpenOffice.org?
[09:46] <wickedpuppy> thats... sources.list not xorg.conf ...
[09:46] <shinobi2> oskude: do you know how i can brink back my clock on the upper right hand corner? i think  my ubuntu desktop is screwed up, maybe i need to uninstall it then install it again
[09:46] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: i know, i'm using that as an example to ask how i restroe a backed up anything
[09:47] <shinobi2> oskude: i deleted something accidently
[09:47] <oskude> shinobi2: right click on the panel, and add a clock (i think)
[09:47] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, oh yes .. thats how to backup ..
[09:47] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: because i don't know the path to my xorg.conf files_backup right now
[09:47] <shinobi2> oskude: thx
[09:47] <shinobi2> oskude: still desktop behaves kind of weird
[09:48] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: yes, i know that is how you backup. I didn't ask for confrimation whether this is how one backs up. I am asking how does one restore a backed up anything
[09:48] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, xorg.conf is in /etc/X11
[09:48] <livingdaylight> In this given example how would i retrieve the backup would i need to as i do now with my xorg.confiles?
[09:48] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude: pls help
[09:48] <mnepton> frandavid100: still there?
[09:49] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, you would do the reverse ? sudo cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list_backup  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:49] <livingdaylight> no, the backup to nvdia enabling is in /varsomething or /opt something
[09:49] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY^: 1. pls is very lame 2. we (atleast i) dont know your problem...
[09:49] <SeraVitae> Hi there, my laptop has ubuntu on it. (that's it). I need to dual boot windows. I realise grub is going to freak out/be deleted/etc. Is there a guide for how to get dual booting back in this case?
[09:49] <frandavid100> mnepton: yep here I am
[09:49] <frandavid100> :)
[09:49] <mnepton> frandavid100: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mneptok/
[09:49] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: you do the reverse, ok - thx! thats what i was driving at
[09:49] <chronoAZ> !ppc
[09:49] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[09:49] <oskude> !grub > SeraVitae
[09:49] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, i thought thats how people do backup everywhere ... lol ...
[09:49] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude: about amarok
[09:49] <SeraVitae> thanks
[09:49] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude: no sound
[09:49] <chronoAZ> how do i go about dual booting mac os x and ubuntu?
[09:49] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY^: never used it, sorry
[09:50] <mnepton> chronoAZ: on PPC or Intel?
[09:50] <MaKaTiGuY^> can u suggest
[09:50] <frandavid100> those are from dapper right?
[09:50] <oskude> !dualboot > chronoAZ
[09:50] <mnepton> frandavid100: aye
[09:50] <frandavid100> there is only the png in edgy
[09:50] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: sorry, i'm not familiear with backing up or retrieving. But alas i have to figure it out now
[09:50] <frandavid100> you could have just saved my day :D
[09:50] <mnepton> frandavid100: just put the pngs and xpms in /usr/share/pixmaps
[09:51] <mnepton> (and chown/chmod accordingly)
[09:51] <frandavid100> I'll send them to the maintainers so that they add it to the default
[09:51] <weex> i want to be able to search my files faster. Can anyone suggest a tool that indexes? Like sherlock or google desktop?
[09:51] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, relax ... backup , retrieve is just buzzwords... think of them as letters .. love letters and you can see what to do
[09:51] <oskude> weex: locate
[09:51] <ClayG> does anyone know of a standalone .exe web browser (with tabs)? I need to use somerthing besides this hidious IE and im at work
[09:51] <frandavid100> see you later mnepton and thanks again!!
[09:51] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: love letters huh?....hmmmm....as in backandforth?  :)
[09:51] <Enselic> !eclipse
[09:51] <wickedpuppy> actually suse has a desktop search tool .. i forgot the name
[09:52] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[09:52] <ClayG> can run executables but cannot install packages?
[09:52] <oskude> !beagle > weex
[09:52] <weex> oskude: so that locate looks inside files?
[09:52] <chronoAZ> how woudl i got about dual booting mac os x and ubuntu?
[09:52] <oskude> weex: no, locale just finds files
[09:52] <mnepton> ClayG: you're going to install Debian packages on something running IE?
[09:52] <mnepton> ClayG: nice trick ;)
[09:52] <chronoAZ> on an ibook
[09:52] <weex> thanks oskude i'll check out beagle
[09:52] <oskude> chronoAZ: ubotu just told you "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot"
[09:53] <chronoAZ> oskude: i just got disconnected
[09:53] <chronoAZ> geez
[09:53] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, yah .. if you have a love letter and you want to save for old age , you copy it and sasve the original... then years later you want to replace the original with the copy ... what do you do ?
[09:53] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: hire a hooker?
[09:53] <chronoAZ> keep ya pants on
[09:53] <livingdaylight> wow, its getting steamy in here
[09:54] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, that would be a good choice .. unfortunately you cant hire one if your backup is screwed in real life ..
[09:54] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, see my point ? forget the buzzwords ...
[09:57] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: now, i just need to find the xorg_backup
[09:57] <livingdaylight> Anyone know where the xorg_backup is kept when attempting to enable 3d. After sudo enable nvidia-glx and Cnt+Alt+Backspace the xorg file is backed up and kept where? it was /var or /opt but alas i didn't write it down coz i thought i'd remember or even thought it would just work (i'm so dumb)
[09:58] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, if you didn't backed it up ... then there isn't one ..
[09:59] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: no, there is. Cos after the command sudo enable nvidia-glx in command line before it told me to contr. alt backspace it said that a copy was backed up in /var or /opt i just don't remember which
[09:59] <livingdaylight> !nvidia
[09:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:59] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, try this "sudo find / -name "*xorg.conf*" -print"
[09:59] <livingdaylight> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:00] <wickedpuppy> it will try to find that contains the word xorg.conf ...
[10:00] <livingdaylight> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia #10
[10:00] <MaKaTiGuY^> can someone help me to configure amarok. no sound
[10:01] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, i installed my nvidia from nvidia.com ... not repo .. so i can't help ya there
[10:02] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: well, thing is i'm in a differnt os right now due to not being able to get in. So, unless i mount /dev/sdb1 ...I thought once i had what i needed of going into revover mode of my install on /dev/sdb1
[10:02] <wickedpuppy> can do the command i showed ya ??
[10:02] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, how many files you need to recover ?
[10:03] <livingdaylight> i just cant boot in fullstop.
[10:03] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude: what mp3 are you using?
[10:03] <levander> Has anyone's machine ever crashed with this being the last message in syslog (well, just before an IMAP login message): "modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command for sound_slot_0"?
[10:03] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: but i presume its just my xorg.i need to restore
[10:03] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, if you can't boot ... why bother with nvidia ? you got more pressing problems than X
[10:03] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY^: none... or do you mean what to use to play mp3 files ? xmms
[10:03] <wickedpuppy> no .. xorg doesn't prevent you from booting..it will drop you in the shell
[10:04] <MaKaTiGuY^> ya
[10:04] <livingdaylight> wickedpuppy: ohh..geezus. how could enableing nvidia kill my whole os?
[10:04] <wickedpuppy> livingdaylight, nvidia doesn't ... if it does half the people won't be here
[10:05] <oskude> livingdaylight: how about changin "nvidia" to "nv" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:05] <wickedpuppy> i myself won't be talking to you
[10:06] <livingdaylight> oskude: gues thats worth a try. I just thought i'd restore my xbackup which aguess is another way of going about it. but as wickedpuppy suggests if i'm not booting in full stop then there are other issues than X
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> btw how you change nvidia to nv if you can't boot into it??
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> i am very very curious about that one
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> mount it ?
[10:07] <oskude> livingdaylight: i dont know what that script does (or if it backups) i normally just do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and change "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf and restart gdm, ready.
[10:07] <livingdaylight> yea, mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[10:07] <livingdaylight> oskude: yes, it backsup
[10:08] <livingdaylight> oskude: sounds like the easy way -  i followed this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:09] <livingdaylight> oskude: i did install nvidika-glx of course but after that i did other things
[10:10] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: boot to rescue mode or a lower runlevel
[10:10] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: or off a live cd, or ...
[10:10] <oskude> livingdaylight: if it doesnt work, i would look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues... (WW) and (EE)
[10:10] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, true .. but i was thinking how he going to ask us for help if he can't use irc ?
[10:11] <wickedpuppy> he will be rebooting .. if got lost come back here ... then reboot ... and so on
[10:11] <Vuen> !agetty
[10:11] <livingdaylight> oskude: ok, thx
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about agetty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: CLI clients exist for IRC (i'm using one) ;)
[10:11] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: irssi is installed by default
[10:11] <CromagDK> <--- irssi
[10:12] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, honestly ... i be surprised if people can stand irssi in trouble .. especially for newbies
[10:12] <crimsun> mnepton: through dapper, yes.
[10:13] <crimsun> irssi is no longer seeded in -desktop
[10:13] <mnepton> crimsun: i thought that was still under spec review
[10:13] <wickedpuppy> if i were needing help and getting help from irssi , without knowing irssi ... that will means a broken monitor ... or thats just me :P
[10:13] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude:  what .rpm
[10:13] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY^: ? rpm ?
[10:13] <crimsun> mnepton: just check the reverse dependencies for irssi.
[10:13] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: thankfully not every user has such anger management issues ;)
[10:14] <mnepton> crimsun: oh, i know what they are, i assure you :)
[10:14] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, yah .. i myself is glad ... i havn't received any hatemails so far ..
[10:14] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: or you have an aggressive spam filter :D
[10:14] <wickedpuppy> possible :P
[10:14] <elkbuntu> either way, hatemail can be arranged ;)
[10:15] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude: i downloaded limewire for linux, but i dont know how to install it
[10:15] <snoop> anyone know the path for your sound driver?
[10:15] <mnepton> MaKaTiGuY^: try gtk-gnutella before you go through the JVM hoops for Limewire
[10:15] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY^: if thats not an ubuntu dapper .deb package, forget it!
[10:15] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude: its not
[10:15] <oskude> !frostwire > MaKaTiGuY^
[10:16] <snoop> anyone know the path for your sound driver?
[10:16] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY^: maybe thats better
[10:16] <mnepton> MaKaTiGuY^: do you have a JVM/JRE installed? the GTK bindings for Java? proper $PATH statements set up for the JVM?
[10:17] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude:  i cant play my video files
[10:18] <MaKaTiGuY^> what player should i use
[10:18] <oskude> !video > MaKaTiGuY^
[10:18] <wickedpuppy> vlc!!!!
[10:18] <oskude> snoop: maybe somewhere in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/drivers/
[10:19] <oskude> snoop: or maybe here /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/sound/
[10:20] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY^: dunno what you "should" use... i use mplayer
[10:20] <snoop> oskude: you sure?
[10:20] <oskude> snoop: sure about what ?
[10:20] <snoop> about what u just said
[10:21] <oskude> snoop: well, i said "maybe"...
[10:22] <oskude> snoop: oh wait, you asked where my sound drivers is, ok, im sure its here /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
[10:22] <nomin> #winehq
[10:22] <oskude> snoop: or to be 100% correct for atm running kernel: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
[10:23] <snoop> K7?
[10:23] <oskude> snoop: yes, i have an athlon processor...
[10:24] <wickedpuppy> is it me or ubuntu doesn't have ident ?
[10:24] <Sakara|away> tell sakara about ubuntu
[10:24] <Sakara|away> !tell sakara about ubuntu
[10:24] <Sakara|away> how do you use the bot in here?
[10:24] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude: totem mplayer or just mplayer
[10:24] <oskude> Sakara:  /msg ubotu blah
[10:25] <Sakara> kk thanks
[10:25] <Sakara> what is the bot using?
[10:25] <Sakara> software?
[10:25] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY^: to be exact, i use mplayer-k7
[10:25] <oskude> Sakara: dunno
[10:25] <oskude> !away > Sakara
[10:25] <crimsun> snoop: for i in $(cat /proc/asound/modules|awk '{print $2}'); do modinfo $i|grep ^filename; done
[10:26] <snoop> ?
[10:26] <crimsun> < snoop> anyone know the path for your sound driver?
[10:26] <snoop> ok
[10:26] <snoop> ?
[10:26] <crimsun> that's the path(s)
[10:26] <crimsun> paste that command verbatim, and you'll get the path(s)
[10:27] <snoop> bash: cd: /proc/asound/module: No such file or directory
[10:27] <crimsun> snoop: note your typo.
[10:27] <snoop> where
[10:27] <crimsun> the modules is plural.
[10:27] <wickedpuppy> its modules ...
[10:27] <wickedpuppy> i would copy and paste if i were you ...
[10:27] <snoop> u typed that typo :P
[10:27] <crimsun> no I didn't.
[10:27] <oskude> !tab > snoop
[10:28] <wickedpuppy> snoop, look up ...
[10:28] <snoop> bash: cd: /proc/asound/modules: Not a director
[10:28] <snoop> y
[10:28] <wickedpuppy> why cd ?
[10:28] <crimsun> why don't you just copy and paste the command I gave you?
[10:28] <wickedpuppy> its cat ...
[10:29] <POVaddct> snoop: there even wasn't a "cd" command in what crimsun typed. you have at least one typo.
[10:29] <wickedpuppy> cat to cd ? i don't think its typo ... typo would be cad ..
[10:29] <snoop> damn alright dont gang up on me now :P
[10:30] <wickedpuppy> snoop, copy ... paste .. enter
[10:33] <snoop> im trying to get sound working in TeamSpeak but it tells me to enter the path of my sound driver
[10:33] <weex> oskude: i think beagle will work well...i even put in the firefox extension...do you use it?
[10:33] <oskude> weex: nope
[10:33] <nomeata> Hi. Just curious: is there someting like popularity-contest on ubuntu?
[10:34] <wickedpuppy> snoop, surely you have the path of the sound driver now ?
[10:34] <crimsun> snoop: I'm pretty sure you'll want /dev/dsp (or /dev/dsp1 if you have and want to use the second card)
[10:34] <crimsun> that is, unless teamspeak has suddenly added native alsa support
[10:34] <oskude> weex: but only cause i very hardly search text in files (i use grep for that), so i dont need that "bloat"... but i heard only good things about beagle...
[10:35] <barata> hallo guys, any of you can make your laptop read the SD card slot?
[10:35] <weex> oskude: yeah grep can work but i wanted to index everything so it'd be faster, wouldn't have to read all the data
[10:36] <snoops> let me be the thorn in your side then oskude by saying I find beagle too slow to be practical and can't stand the implementation of it within nautilus..
[10:36] <snoops> obviously it'll speed up in time..but still
[10:37] <snoop> crimsun: ?
[10:37] <oskude> just use what fits your needs!
[10:37] <snoop> the card im using is via
[10:37] <crimsun> snoop: yes?
[10:38] <mike_stern> how cna i download/install mysql package ?
[10:38] <oskude> mike_stern: you mean mysql-server ?
[10:39] <boink> mike: apt-cache search mysql first
[10:39] <boink> then install what you need from that list
[10:39] <weex> snoops: what do you use then? i found something else called libferris
[10:39] <oskude> !synaptic > mike_stern
[10:40] <LBNo> re
[10:40] <LBNo> re
[10:40] <mike_stern> i need to install all the mysql package
[10:40] <snoops> I end up using find or locate most of the time.. I'm going to give glscube a go, since it seems more my thing
[10:40] <boink> mike_stern: then install it
[10:40] <Flannel> mike_stern: you looking to set it up with apache and stuff? or just mysql on it's own?
[10:40] <s-toned> Is there a software in gnome comparable to khotkeys?
[10:40] <oskude> mike_stern: read what ubotu send you, and then search for the myslq packages you need...
[10:41] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude: windows emulator, can u suggest?
[10:41] <mike_stern> just mysql alone
[10:41] <boink> the server or the client?
[10:41] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY^: wine is the most popular...
[10:41] <Flannel> mike_stern: just mysql-server should do it then
[10:42] <boink> you're a little vague here, mike_stern
[10:42] <boink> and which version? 4.1 or 5?
[10:42] <MaKaTiGuY^> oskude: i already installed wine, but i acnt find it
[10:42] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY^, type wine at the command line
[10:43] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY^: sorry, i dont use wine...
[10:43] <mike_stern> 5
[10:43] <boink> mysql-server-5.0 - mysql database server binaries
[10:43] <boink> then apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[10:44] <mike_stern> only this will get mysql installe?
[10:44] <mike_stern> apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[10:44] <boink> yes
[10:44] <mike_stern> E: Couldn't find package mysql-server-5.0
[10:44] <MaKaTiGuY^> wicked: what is the parameter? wine?
[10:44] <oskude> mysql-server = 5.x
[10:44] <boink> then you need to adjust your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:44] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY^, you are trying to find wine or trying to run a program with wine ?
[10:45] <MaKaTiGuY^> trying to run a program with wine
[10:45] <boink> it just worked fine for me
[10:45] <mike_stern> can someone give me an updated list of sources.list?
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY^, then go to the dir with .exe and type wine file.exe
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> thats how i remembered ...
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> mike_stern, previously from fedora ?
[10:46] <boink> !easysource
[10:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:46] <mike_stern> slackware
[10:46] <boink> mike_stern: get your source list from there
[10:46] <boink> under slackware, the apt-get will install all of the dependecies
[10:46] <boink> s/under/unlike/
[10:47] <boink> mysql-server should install quickly, after the download
[10:47] <kyle_> !info
[10:47] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8-4 (dapper), package size 209 kB, installed size 384 kB
[10:48] <MaKaTiGuY^> wicked: how do i do that? there's no command line
[10:49] <kyle_> anyone experienced with ubuntu willing to help me?
[10:49] <wickedpuppy> there is no command line ?
[10:49] <wickedpuppy> i think ...
[10:49] <boink> !ask
[10:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY^, if there is no command line , then i can't help ... sorry
[10:50] <preaction> MaKaTiGuY^, open a terminal...
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> btw you do know what is command line ... right ?
[10:50] <MaKaTiGuY^> terminal window?
[10:50] <defrysk> cli
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> lol
[10:51] <boink> can the ubuntu kaffeine plugin play wmv/asx files/streams?
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> i ask one person and come out 4 answers
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> let me be the fifth ... shell!
[10:51] <mike_stern> apt-get update wat does it do
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> mike_stern, it updates
[10:51] <boink> it updates the software database
[10:51] <kyle_> cool, so i've got this problem using sudo and i've narrowed it down to a problem with the /etc/hosts file... i started in recovery mode and edited the file but no avail...
[10:51] <boink> mike_stern: man apt-get
[10:52] <oskude> !hostname > kyle_
[10:52] <boink> this is the big advantage in a debian-like system compared to slackware
[10:52] <wickedpuppy> kyle_, gethostbyname() error ?
[10:52] <boink> slackware does have something called "slap-get" which is like apt-get
[10:52] <wickedpuppy> yup .. slapt-get
[10:52] <kyle_> i think the spaces between the localhost.hostname localhost and ___ have to be spaced correctly?
[10:52] <boink> but Patrick V. doesn't like slapt-get :P
[10:52] <Squatch> How do I set preferred apps in KDE?
[10:52] <kyle_> wicked_puppy yes
[10:53] <wickedpuppy> kyle_, i see .. its a common error ..
[10:53] <wickedpuppy> Squatch, #kubuntu pls
[10:53] <kyle_> ubotu just gave me some advice...
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about just gave me some advice... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <Squatch> wickedpuppy: Unfortunately, nobody ever responds in there, I always try there first, but nobody is ever helpful, but I always find good help here.
[10:53] <sc0tty> hello
[10:53] <sc0tty> anyone using skippy here ?
[10:54] <wickedpuppy> Squatch, of course feel free to ask... :P
[10:54] <matti> :)
[10:54] <oskude> kyle_: but sadly ubotu (hostname) doesnt say the "right" way to change your hostname :/
[10:54] <Squatch> wickedpuppy: Heh, I do, this particular community is great and insanely helpful =).  Makes me happy heh.
[10:54] <sc0tty> I am using skippy, but the snapshots used in the "expos" mode are messed up :(
[10:54] <wickedpuppy> Squatch, you need a girl ..
[10:55] <Squatch> wickedpuppy: lol, what makes you think I don't have one?
[10:55] <MaKaTiGuY^> wicked: wine qlock.exe ryt?
[10:55] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY^, are you in the dir with qlock.exe ?
[10:55] <wickedpuppy> then yes
[10:55] <MaKaTiGuY^> yes
[10:55] <kyle_> okude yeah i did edit them both in recovery mode
[10:55] <oskude> kyle_: ah ok, but you still get errors ?
[10:55] <wickedpuppy> Squatch, well ... most geeks have no girl .. i do though :P
[10:56] <kyle_> but i still got the error at startup as well as not being able to use sudo
[10:56] <boink> wickedpuppy: is she a geek too? :)
[10:56] <Squatch> wickedpuppy: Heh, you're right.  I'm engaged though ;).  I'm surrounded by single geeks though, I go to DigiPen (Video Game Programming School).
[10:56] <MaKaTiGuY^> wicked: qlock it doesnt open
[10:57] <Squatch> wickedpuppy: Heck yes!  She's learning, even plays World of Warcraft with me heh.
[10:57] <wickedpuppy> boink, she is a bio engineer ..... far away from geekdom .. i have no wish for a vi versus emacs flamewar in bed
[10:57] <Gosty> HI! Is a vocabulary for ubuntu?
[10:57] <Squatch> wickedpuppy: bwahaha, I can completely understand that sentiment =)
[10:57] <oskude> kyle_: hmm, heres how my files look like /etc/hostname has "foobar" and /etc/hosts has "127.0.0.1 localhost foobar"
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> Squatch, digipen!! thats one kick-ass school .. good luck on your future!!!!!! I wish you all the best ..
[10:58] <Squatch> wickedpuppy: Hehe, thank you, I'm struggling through my senior year, finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel ;).
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> :)
[10:59] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY^, sorry ... qlock doesn't open ? any error ?
[11:00] <MaKaTiGuY^> wicked: no errors
[11:00] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, could you rephrase your question ?
[11:00] <MaKaTiGuY^> no activity
[11:00] <kyle_> ok that's interesting because my /etc/hosts is different. "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost banger"
[11:00] <MaKaTiGuY^> wicked: no activity at all
[11:00] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY^, no errors ? just doesn't open ... no idea then
[11:01] <spocky> hi
[11:01] <MaKaTiGuY^> wicked: should i reboot my pc?
[11:01] <oskude> kyle_: i think you could remove the second localhost (or localhost.localdomain)
[11:01] <kyle_> i'm going to restart, edit, and see if changing it will fix that
[11:01] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY^, you can try but i don't think it will work
[11:02] <MaKaTiGuY^> wicked: i typed wine qlock.exe but it doesnt open
[11:02] <dbzdeath>  hey could anyone help me with the audigy i recently installed? i keep getting crackling sounds with xmms when using alsa
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY^, i thought you were going to reboot ?
[11:03] <[miles] > morning #ubuntu
[11:03] <MaKaTiGuY^> ok hold on :)
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> evening [miles] 
[11:03] <[miles] > anyone managed to get XGL running on edgy yet?
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> [miles] , #ubuntu-xgl
[11:03] <[miles] > wickedpuppy, wish it was evening... 11:03 am here in Spain
[11:04] <[miles] > ah ok, thank you wickedpuppy
[11:04] <metalhen> Hi. anybody here experienced or heard of problems with wlan with latest beta release? my system says "wlan0 - no wireless extension" ?  (Intersil Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset, alway ued modules orinoco_pci/hermes)
[11:04] <wickedpuppy> actually its also edgy problem
[11:04] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[11:04] <[miles] > ah ok
[11:04] <[miles] > wickedpuppy, so no point in wasting my time atm trying to get it running?
[11:04] <wickedpuppy> [miles] , tell you what .. ask in both #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-xgl ... see which one responds
[11:04] <Gosty> HI! can i have vocabulary in ubuntu?
[11:04] <[miles] > jeje ok
[11:05] <wickedpuppy> [miles] , you can always hack
[11:05] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, i do not understand your question ...
[11:05] <oskude> Gosty: it ends in a "?", so it must be an question... but i just cant compute :/
[11:06] <wickedpuppy> can i have grammar in ubuntu ?
[11:06] <oskude> wickedpuppy: u-b-u-n-t-u :P
[11:06] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: dictionary
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> dictionary!!!!!!!
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> now we are talking ...
[11:07] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: sorry my english is ...
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> yes
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, why not ask in native language ?
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> we have language channels
[11:07] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: for slovak too? :DD
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> !sl
[11:07] <ubotu> sl: Correct you if you type `sl' by mistake. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03-14 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 132 kB
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> lol
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> whats ya country code ?
[11:08] <wickedpuppy> sl ? sv ?
[11:09] <frogzoo> if I install vmware-player + vmware-player-kernel-modules - is that all I need ?
[11:11] <lansing> how do i clean my cookies and stuff like that ?
[11:11] <wickedpuppy> eat them up ?? jk jk .. firefox cookies ?
[11:11] <lansing> ya
[11:11] <lansing> lol
[11:12] <wickedpuppy> lansing, you been asking here for sometimes right ?
[11:13] <lansing> yes but id rather talk to som one then to be referrd to a site
[11:13] <MaKaTiGuY> wicked: winefile or wine?
[11:13] <wickedpuppy> no no .. i won't ask you to go to a site .. but what have you learnt ? cause i am seeing people coming back for more ...
[11:14] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY, wine file.exe ... if that doesn't work then you got to ask a wine pro
[11:14] <MaKaTiGuY> wicked: tnx
[11:14] <lansing> ive learnt a lil on how to use linux
[11:14] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: sk
[11:14] <kyle_> oskude: it worked, thank you
[11:14] <wickedpuppy> !sk
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <wickedpuppy> opps
[11:14] <lansing> but not enoughe to be on my own yet
[11:15] <wickedpuppy> no langage for ya
[11:15] <oskude> kyle_: what did you do ?
[11:15] <__gotcha> which character-mode hex editor should I use on Breezy ?
[11:15] <kyle_> removed localhost.localdomain
[11:15] <wickedpuppy> k lansing ... for such files , its likely a dot file in your home ... so do this ls -al ... look at all the files that start with .
[11:15] <wickedpuppy> lansing, can think of a particular dir ?
[11:15] <oskude> kyle_: ok, nice to know, thanx!
[11:16] <kyle_> np
[11:16] <lansing> umm
[11:16] <__gotcha> or hex viewer ?
[11:17] <lansing> have no iderz
[11:17] <mrpheus> does flashget work with wine?
[11:17] <preaction> is there a linux port of BSD's packetfilter?
[11:17] <wickedpuppy> lansing, clearly the best bet is .firefox .. but no such thing .. what about .mozilla ?? do you see it ?
[11:18] <oskude> preaction: is that something else than "iptables" ?
[11:18] <lansing> ive got it i think
[11:18] <preaction> oskude, i believe it accomplishes the same goals, but better
[11:18] <wickedpuppy> so lansing what is the name of the file ?
[11:19] <preaction> oskude, i also believe that it has more features in the Queuing and Scheduling aspects
[11:19] <oskude> preaction: ok... well, apt-cache search paketfilter didnt give any results...
[11:19] <lansing> mozilla i think
[11:19] <lansing> ??
[11:19] <wickedpuppy> lansing, .mozilla is a directory ...
[11:20] <lansing> o
[11:20] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: and something like program?
[11:20] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, .mozilla ? program? nope .. it starts with  .
[11:20] <mrpheus> idiots
[11:20] <oskude> lansing: a dot "." before a file/dir name means its handled as "hidden" file/dir by bash and file managers...
[11:21] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: bud dictionary i put verb in slovak and it return me verb in english
[11:21] <lansing> o ok ill get use to this after i use it for awhile
[11:21] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, eh ah .. isn't it what you want ? translating from sloval -> english
[11:22] <wickedpuppy> lansing, btw the colours are different between file and dir...
[11:22] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: yes
[11:22] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, then everything is fine :P
[11:22] <preaction> oskude, looks like i'm stuck with iptables, which i do not understand at all (and all attempts at RTFM lead nowhere)
[11:22] <lansing> i learn stuff by doin it my self iam not like others where they see it n learnt it
[11:23] <lansing> o ok thats good to knop
[11:23] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: so can i  have the program?
[11:23] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, thats a translator ... no idea about that one .. pls search for it in synaptic
[11:23] <oskude> preaction: and paketfilter is easier ?
[11:23] <oskude> !iptables > preaction
[11:23] <MaKaTiGuY> can someone help me to use wine
[11:24] <Vuen> hey guys, quick question, how do i view the permissions on a file?
[11:24] <preaction> Vuen, ls -l
[11:25] <Vuen> mm thanks
[11:25] <pandamonium> my ubuntu box is going weird
[11:25] <pandamonium> lsat night it completely froze up
[11:25] <pandamonium> this morning whenever i moved the mouse the cursor shot around the screen opening stuff up at random
[11:26] <pandamonium> i shut it down from a remote box
[11:26] <oskude> pandamonium: could be a faulty hardware... can you test another mouse or so ?
[11:26] <pandamonium> oskude, i have the same mouse connected to another machine through KVM and it's fine there
[11:27] <oskude> pandamonium: hmm, and keyboard works too on another machine ?
[11:27] <pandamonium> yes
[11:27] <Vuen> aarrgh
[11:27] <Vuen> i can't get svnserve to work with xinetd
[11:27] <Vuen> frustration
[11:27] <pandamonium> oskude, they're both working now, i'm using the ubuntu box
[11:28] <pandamonium> but the task bar is all over the place
[11:28] <oskude> pandamonium: and youre using ubuntu dapper ?
[11:28] <morphix> anyone know how to get btg+webbtg working in ubuntu?
[11:28] <pandamonium> is that the latest?
[11:28] <pandamonium> i'm using kubuntu
[11:28] <mnepton> Vuen: use bzr :P
[11:28] <oskude> pandamonium: yes, atm (but theres also edgy beta)
[11:28] <Vuen> !bzr
[11:28] <ubotu> bzr is Bazaar-NG, a decentralized revision control system designed to be easy for developers and end users alike. Decentralized revision control systems give people the ability to work over the internet using the bazaar development model.
[11:28] <oskude> !kubuntu > pandamonium
[11:29] <pandamonium> yeah, i installed the kde over it
[11:29] <Vuen> mnepton, that's not the problem
[11:29] <mnepton> Vuen: http://bazaar-vcs.org/
[11:29] <pandamonium> because gnome kept crashing
[11:29] <pandamonium> and i was sick of seeing that foot everywhere :p
[11:29] <Vuen> it doesn't matter what the program is, it's the fact that my configuration changes to xinetd aren't taking effect
[11:29] <Vuen> xinetd is not listening on the ports it should
[11:29] <mnepton> Vuen: the problem is getting the centralized source server set uo. bzr requires no central server.
[11:30] <oskude> pandamonium: well, if youre using kubuntu, thar help ist at #kubuntu
[11:30] <oskude> pandamonium: i dont know anything about kde, except some programs...
[11:30] <pandamonium> ah, ok... will try there
[11:30] <pandamonium> oskude, it's really nice :) except when the mouse goes bonkers!
[11:31] <shorthorns> Hi
[11:31] <oskude> pandamonium: i dont like kde as desktop, just some qt programs... (but lets leave this to that)
[11:33] <Vuen> question, will xinetd allow me to run a service as root?
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> Vuen: sure it can, but you can do that with normal init.d scripts
[11:35] <mnepton> Vuen: you should start necessary services with invoke-rc.d
[11:36] <Vuen> finally got it working
[11:38] <Rockj> http://pastebin.ca/199026 , anyone can help me with getting dual screen to work? cloned works as default..
[11:39] <kfir> hi! I wourld like to install hebrew support on my ubuntu machine. When executing "consolechars -f  iso08.f16 -m iso08", i get "set_kernel_font: Invalid argument"
[11:39] <kfir> any ideas?
[11:39] <Riot777> hello
[11:39] <oskude> Rockj: never done that, but maybe this can help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[11:40] <mnepton> kfir: why not just install the language pack?
[11:41] <Rockj> oskude: thanks, I'll try it out :)
[11:41] <Perham> i have suse 10.1 oss and windows XP installed. iwant to install ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake. i have a question
[11:42] <Perham> can i use the swap partition of suse for ubuntu? so they share the swap partition?
[11:42] <oskude> Perham: yes
[11:42] <Perham> when i install ubuntu should i install rub(or lilo) again?
[11:43] <parix> Perham, it should do that for you
[11:43] <parix> install grub that is
[11:43] <oskude> Perham: ubuntu uses grub as default
[11:43] <Perham>  so do that support my old suse? i want a triple boot
[11:43] <oskude> Perham: does your suse use lilo ?
[11:43] <Perham> no,grub
[11:44] <oskude> Perham: hmm, then ubuntu install should find that and add it to the grub menu that it installs...
[11:44] <hoelk> hmm
[11:44] <Perham> thanks for your help!
[11:44] <Perham> bye for now.
[11:44] <frogzoo> Perham: yup
[11:44] <oskude> Perham: ubuntu atleas finds other installations of ubuntu, but i never tested with other distros...
[11:44] <hoelk> does any amarok user that also uses the replaygain script happen to be here?
[11:45] <frogzoo> anyone else get strange windows failures under kqemu ?
[11:46] <kfir> mnepton: could you please elaborate (i'm a newbie)
[11:46] <mabus> my MBR can never get too messed up to fix can it?
[11:47] <oskude> !mbr > mabus
[11:48] <oskude> mabus: but i dont really understand what you ask...
[11:48] <mabus> oskude: I mean, somebody is advising me against installing solaris on my personal box which already has windows and ubuntu.
[11:49] <oskude> mabus: aha... i know nothing about solaris...
[11:49] <JUNAIDJANUDA> Hi i have just started using ubuntu but am having problems connecting to windows network which uses MS Firewall client and ISA server
[11:49] <mabus> But I need to have the experience of setting up solaris and apache/ftpd on it, so I can do it on a server box for a friend/client in 2 weeks
[11:49] <mabus> oskude: the question is about the MBR not solaris
[11:50] <oskude> mabus: yeah, and that i didnt undestand, could you rephrase ?
[11:50] <mabus> Can it be messed up beyond reapir
[11:50] <mabus> s/reap/repa/
[11:50] <kfir> mnepton, are you still here?
[11:50] <oskude> mabus: you can "mess" anything beyond repair... but i never had really broken mbr in my 20year pc usage...
[11:51] <oskude> mabus: you may lose the data in mbr, but when it really breaks, your whole hd will be uselsess...
[11:51] <kfir> hi! I wourld like to install hebrew support on my ubuntu machine. When executing "consolechars -f  iso08.f16 -m iso08", i get "set_kernel_font: Invalid argument"
[11:52] <mabus> oskude: well in your opinion, would installing an OS in a proper fashion cause my MBR to be totalled? I don't think so, but this guy insists I am asking for trouble.
[11:53] <oskude> kfir: and why dont you use System > Administration > Language Support ?
[11:53] <oskude> mabus: then let him explain why youre in trouble
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> mabus: if a MBR is "messed up", reinstall grub can fix it, or running chkdsk /fixmbr from a Windows recovery console.
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> mabus: or you can use a boot disk instead of a MBR
[11:54] <po0f> mabus: Backup the MBR with this command `dd if=/dev/hdX of=mbr.bak bs=512 count=1` and restore with this command `dd if=mbr.bak of=/dev/hdX bs=512 count=1`.
[11:55] <po0f> mabus: You'll still need a live cd of some sort to boot if the MBR is fubar.
[11:55] <mnepton> kfir: yup, still here
[11:56] <mabus> ok thanks
[11:56] <mabus> you'll see me crying in here later if that is teh case!
[11:56] <po0f> mabus: And it's only asking for trouble if you say pretty please.  :)
[11:57] <mnepton> mabus: installing Windows in the normal fashion will certainly toast your MBR. MS overwrites anything in the MBR with ntloadr and never asks or prompts.
[11:57] <mabus> windows is already on
[11:57] <oskude> mabus: you mean if solaris brakes your machine you come here ?!
[11:57] <mabus> windows _ ubuntu is working smoothly
[11:57] <mnepton> mabus: then GRUB will only touch the MBR if you specifically tell it to
[11:57] <augnob> crushjane: hi
[11:57] <mabus> s/_/+/
[11:58] <mabus> mnepton: but I'm not aware if solaris is going to try to screw it it, I'm just wondering if it does, can I fix it. this has been answered
[11:58] <mabus> with it..
[11:58] <mnepton> mabus: Solaris? on x86? dude ... don't.
[11:58] <mabus> man, this 10 second lag between typing a character and seeing it is making me type like a 14 y/o aoler
[11:58] <mabus> mnepton: why is that? they have a x86 solaris 10
[11:58] <po0f> mabus: What's up with that?
[11:59] <mabus> po0f: connecting trhough a shell, upload bandwidth being used by torrents
[11:59] <mnepton> d3wd ur typ-ng sux lol zomg rofl add
[11:59] <Burnt-out> hi all
[11:59] <Vuen> wow.
[11:59] <mnepton> mabus: Solaris on x86 is slow as hell
[11:59] <Vuen> i just realized that absolutely everything on my computer is working.
[11:59] <mabus> that is not important
[11:59] <Vuen> i've got the nvidia beta drivers working
[11:59] <oskude> mabus, theres #solaris and #opensolaris on this networks... just a tip ;)
[11:59] <mabus> I just want to install it, install and configure apache and a ftpd
[11:59] <Vuen> i've got beryl fully working
[11:59] <po0f> Vuen: Install Gentoo.  ;)
[11:59] <mabus> once it works fine, I want to remove it.
[12:00] <Vuen> i've got ssh and nx fully working
[12:00] <mabus> oskude: I know but they are dead and it is not a solaris question.
[12:00] <Vuen> i've got samba finally working, i've got svnserve finally working... my god, everything works!
[12:00] <Burnt-out> anyone that can help with setting ubuntu to be a router?
[12:00] <mabus> I didn't ask "will solaris try to change the mbr"
[12:00] <Vuen> this is incredible!
[12:00] <mnepton> *vomits, even
[12:00] <oskude> mabus: oh, then i missunderstand you about asking if solaris will break your mbr...
[12:00] <Vuen> i am so impressed right now. i am beaming.
[12:01] <mabus> no, if something *such as solaris* changed my mbr undesirably, could I change it back
[12:01] <mnepton> Vuen: my PayPal address is ....
[12:01] <mnepton> mabus: easiest way is from recovery mode of an Ubuntu LiveCD
[12:01] <oskude> mabus: well, this channel is for ubuntu support, so stay on topic...
[12:01] <shinobi2> what's a good cdrw burning software for ubuntu? i need to burn an distro's iso image
[12:01] <mnepton> shinobi2: gnomebaker
[12:01] <Burnt-out> anyone that can help with setting ubuntu to be a router?
[12:01] <Vuen> shinobi2, k3b
[12:01] <mnepton> shinobi2: but you don;t need that for an .iso
[12:02] <hyby> can anyone assist me with audio problems?
[12:02] <mnepton> shinobi2: just right-click the .iso file
[12:02] <mabus> oskude: well my only livecd that lets my nic work out of the box is xubuntu, so it's on topic...
[12:02] <po0f> oskude: Would the question have been more valid if he installed WIndows and wondered what happened to his MBR?  You would probably be more forgiving then.
[12:02] <oskude> shinobi2: right click on the iso, and select "burn to cd" orsomtehing like that...
[12:02] <oskude> mabus: xubuntu != ubuntu, i think they have their own channel
[12:02] <Vuen> shinobi2, use k3b, it's the greatest cd burning software in existence
[12:03] <oskude> po0f: no, i would have just igoner that...
[12:03] <mabus> oskude: For all intents and purposes, xubuntu == ubuntu
[12:03] <mnepton> Vuen: he may not want all the QT and KDE libs installed just to burn a CD ;)
[12:03] <mabus> When I'm not talking about the gui.
[12:03] <Vuen> mnepton, it's totally worth it
[12:03] <mnepton> Vuen: not to me, it ain't ;)
[12:03] <Vuen> :p
[12:03] <oskude> mabus: yes, maybe under the hood, but not in support, or am i wrong ?
[12:04] <mabus> oskude: nope, ubuntu > xubuntu for support
[12:04] <Vuen> oskude, the xubuntu is just ubuntu with a different manager
[12:04] <Vuen> it's a bit rude to ask him to go to xubuntu when his question is unrelated to xfce and there are almost twenty times as many people here
[12:04] <oskude> Vuen: i know, but does this channel include support of all thos FOOubuntu ?
[12:04] <mabus> so for stuff liek booting, which happens before the DM/WM is even started up, it's irrelevant whether I ask in kubunut, ubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu, what have you.
[12:04] <Vuen> well, yes, it does
[12:04] <defrysk> mnepton, rightclick the iso in nautilus and burn it ;)
[12:04] <po0f> The forums do, why not here?
[12:05] <oskude> ok ...
[12:05] <mnepton> are we really having an off-topic discussion about what is or is not off-topic?
[12:05] <mnepton> defrysk: uhhh ... wha'?
[12:05] <hyby> i was wondering if anyone here has an intel ICH6 soundcard and has managed to get sound
[12:05] <defrysk> mnepton, sorry wrong person ;p
[12:05] <defrysk> nm
[12:05] <Trackilizer> My PC won't load into ubuntu, the boot screen comes up and after that the screen goes blank and i have to reset..... i tried changing the RAM and the harddrive but still no luck.
[12:05] <shinobi2> thx mnepton, Vuen, oskude
[12:05] <Vuen> ouch
[12:06] <po0f> Trackilizer: What's the last thing you see?
[12:06] <mnepton> Trackilizer: grfx controller?
[12:06] <mabus> Trackilizer: have you installed it yet? or are you just talking about the cd? do you have any operating system on your computer yet?
[12:06] <Vuen> lol
[12:06] <Trackilizer> I have ubuntu installed
[12:06] <Trackilizer> but this happens when trying a LiveCd aswell
[12:06] <Vuen> mmm
[12:06] <mnepton> Trackilizer: is it booted now?
[12:07] <Trackilizer> no, using my laptop ti wirte this
[12:07] <Vuen> Trackilizer, how did you manage to install ubuntu if the livecd doesn't work? are you using the alternate cd?
[12:07] <mabus> so what "boot screen" comes up. ubuntu's? or your motherboard/bios manufacturer's logo?
[12:07] <mnepton> Trackilizer: but is the other machine booted?
[12:07] <Trackilizer> It worked fine until about a week ago
[12:07] <Vuen> ah
[12:07] <Trackilizer> No, it is not booted
[12:07] <defrysk> hardware
[12:07] <Vuen> did you change any hardware recently?
[12:07] <Vuen> did you try a memtest?
[12:07] <Trackilizer> No
[12:08] <Vuen> boot from the livecd and choose memtest
[12:08] <cbx33> this is gonna sound stupid
[12:08] <Vuen> instead of starting the operating system
[12:08] <mnepton> Trackilizer: sounds like your xorg.conf might have syphilis
[12:08] <po0f> Trackilizer: Do you remember if a kernel was updated between when it was working and when it started acting up?
[12:08] <defrysk> got a new vidcard or something ?
[12:08] <cbx33> how do people theme the applications/places/system bar at the top?
[12:08] <mnepton> cbx33: right click it
[12:08] <Vuen> mnepton, po0f, neither of those make sense, the livecd stopped working too
[12:08] <Trackilizer> Well, i thought it was my xorg file, but the same thing happens when i try a knoppix liveCD
[12:08] <ProN00b> cbx33, i hope you are not planning to set a apple logo on it
[12:08] <cbx33> what about changing the font colour?
[12:09] <cbx33> Noooooooooooo
[12:09] <mnepton> Trackilizer: then you need to look carefully at BIOS settings relating to video, and at your video card.
[12:09] <cbx33> not at all....I'm an ubu through and through
[12:09] <ProN00b> cbx33, ya ryte
[12:09] <cbx33> I just wonder how to change the font colour
[12:09] <Vuen> Trackilizer, boot from the livecd and do a memtest. if you haven't changed any hardware or bios settings and suddenly livecds don't work anymore, something's gone bad.
[12:09] <defrysk> Trackilizer, also check for dust
[12:09] <Burnt-out> trackilizer: r u using ati or Nvidea graphics card
[12:09] <Trackilizer> mnepton, it's arather old PC... with only 256MB of RAM and a 1.5GHZ CPU.... and video onboard
[12:10] <cbx33> ProN00b - I'm an I develop applications for edubuntu
[12:10] <mnepton> Trackilizer: got a spare PCI/AGP vidcard kicking around?
[12:10] <Trackilizer> yes
[12:10] <mnepton> try that
[12:10] <Trackilizer> ok, i'll try what you guys suggested and be back in a bit
[12:10] <ProN00b> cbx33, i guess font color is the font color from your system theme
[12:11] <Vuen> defrysk, yes, Trackilizer definitely check for dust. Try taking the video card out and putting it back in
[12:11] <Vuen> it could just be dirty
[12:13] <lucasvo> hi
[12:13] <ProN00b> Burnt-out, personally i use
[12:13] <ProN00b> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXT_IF -j MASQUERADE
[12:13] <ProN00b> echo "1" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[12:13] <Vuen> mmm, gotta wake up for a meeting in 2 hours. :/
[12:13] <Vuen> night #ubuntu
[12:14] <ProN00b> and replace $EXT_IF with the interface my internet is connected to (ppp0 or eth0 or whatever)
[12:14] <lucasvo> I try to install ubuntu on my notebook. but repeatedly says: Disabling IRQ 15.
[12:14] <Burnt-out> ProN00b: is there a gui utility as i am new to linux, I have a Mikrotik router that has a wonderful web interface...is there nothing similar for ubuntu
[12:15] <ProN00b> Burnt-out, why not use your router ? oO
[12:15] <Burnt-out> i am but we are in a remote area and that is sending the wireless signal to our diffirent offices
[12:17] <Burnt-out> we are on a farm near the central kalahari thus great distances need to be bridged with our sat provider, and one is our of reach so i want to set up an old pc as a router that will bridge the two, and i can't get wds to work
[12:18] <ProN00b> Burnt-out, try firestarter
[12:19] <Burnt-out> does it have a gui...
[12:19] <mabus> Burnt-out: firestarter is the gui to iptables
[12:19] <Burnt-out> i find it easier to learn gui than text mode
[12:19] <oskude> Burnt-out: or pick your tool here http://www.roseindia.net/linux/linux-firewall-gui.shtml
[12:19] <Burnt-out> lol ok still new to this all
[12:19] <Burnt-out> will check out the link thanks....
[12:19] <ProN00b> Burnt-out, commandline can be as easy as gui
[12:20] <Pasteurized> hi all
[12:20] <asiakas> joi
[12:20] <Pasteurized> someone can help me with user / goup administration ?
[12:20] <Pasteurized> group*
[12:20] <ProN00b> Burnt-out, sometimes you can just type in two lines to do what you want instead of searching for what you want in a gui tool, remember, this is not windows
[12:21] <oskude> !helpme > Pasteurized
[12:22] <Burnt-out> i have tried cammand line....but finding specific instructions online is not that easy....been trying for the last two weeks with no success....the web server i got setup and that works great...just to set the router was not so easy
[12:22] <mnepton> Burnt-out: the other advanatege the CLI tools have is that then you can modify things remotely.
[12:22] <Jowi> Hi all. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 on a mac-mini. rEFIt and bootcamp works fine. Installation of Ubuntu stalls at 50% at the elilo installation. The logs say this "elilo-installer: Couldn't load efivars module - is it statically linked?" Has anyone got any ideas?
[12:22] <ProN00b> well, Burnt-out you have to know what you want to bridge and how
[12:23] <ProN00b> Burnt-out, the two lines i gave you work perfectly to start nat on my box
[12:24] <hyby> i was wondering with my ICH6 sound card do i need to update my kernal and ALSA?
[12:24] <hyby> because i have been having this problem with mandriva 2006 in the past
[12:24] <Pasteurized> I wanted to add an existing group to an user (me) with $ sudo usermod -G ftp tups (tups is the main user), but now I cant go anymore in administration menu of Ubuntu with root password
[12:24] <hyby> i need sound cause of my work..and i am trying to revert to windows
[12:24] <Burnt-out> mnepton:i will try the commands you gave...what tool would i use to log on remotly from a winbox...would i use a terminal program like telnet or somthing similar
[12:24] <oskude> Burnt-out: did you try asking in #iptables ?
[12:25] <Burnt-out> no did not see the channel cos i did not list...went direct to this one as ubuntu web site points to here so came right here
[12:25] <mnepton> Burnt-out: puTTY
[12:25] <ProN00b> Buglouse, yes, like telnet, but preferably not telnet, you better use ssh (apt-get install sshd on the box) and get putty as a client to use from your windows box
[12:25] <oskude> Burnt-out: they even seem to have tutorial link in their topic, im just not interested in networking ;)
[12:25] <ProN00b> *Burnt-out, i mean
[12:26] <Burnt-out> k...will do that and try
[12:26] <mnepton> ProN00b: actually, it's "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" ;)
[12:26] <snowblink> Pasteurized, you need to reboot into singleuser mode and put that user back in the admin group
[12:26] <mabus> "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[12:26] <mabus> ProN00b: Burnt-out: its that
[12:27] <Pasteurized> snowblink: when I type "$ groups" I am in the admin group
[12:28] <snowblink> Pasteurized, cat /etc/group | grep admin
[12:28] <[UNLY] mrp> can anyone help me with win98-samba-dapper?
[12:28] <Burnt-out> k thanx just writing all this down to go try at the site thanx
[12:29] <ProN00b> Burnt-out, you can also enable remote desktop
[12:29] <Pasteurized> snowblink: lpadmin:x:104x and admin:x:106:
[12:29] <ProN00b> System - Preferences - Remote Desktop
[12:29] <ProN00b> (to be accessed with a vnc client)
[12:29] <snowblink> Pasteurized, so you have no one in the admin group. Your current session was, but then you issued that usermod command
[12:30] <mnepton> ladies and gentlemen, i give you Windows Vista - http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/giant_swiss.jpg
[12:30] <[UNLY] mrp> i am trying to connect my win98 workstation to ubuntu via samba which is installed in ubuntu.
[12:31] <ProN00b> mnepton, the only thing swiss about vista are the security holes in it that are as high in numbers as the holes in swiss cheese
[12:31] <Pasteurized> snowblink: should i $ usermod -Ga admin tups ?
[12:31] <Burnt-out> ProN00b: I have done that with success
[12:31] <ProN00b> [UNLY] mrp, who the hell still uses windows98, hurry up and warez windows xp/2k already
[12:32] <snowblink> Pasteurized, next time yes
[12:32] <Pasteurized> snowblink: but I need to reboot before ?
[12:32] <mnepton> ProN00b: "jack of all trades, master of none."
[12:32] <[UNLY] mrp> well its a community project i am doing with donated computers
[12:32] <cbx33> you mean a JOATMON
[12:32] <cbx33> Jack Of All Trades Master Of None
[12:32] <snowblink> Pasteurized, AFAICS no user on your system has sudo rights.
[12:33] <[UNLY] mrp> is it possible to connect with win98?
[12:34] <Pasteurized> what AFAICS means ? (non-english user :) )
[12:34] <mnepton> [UNLY] mrp: is samba-server actually running on the Ubuntu machine? what shares do you have set up? did you edit the samba conf file? if so, can you pastebin it?
[12:35] <mnepton> Pasteurized: As Far As I Can See
[12:35] <Pasteurized> thx !
[12:35] <[UNLY] mrp> samba is installed in ubuntu
[12:35] <mnepton> [UNLY] mrp: great, except i didn't ask that.
[12:35] <Jowi> is it possible to load a kernel module prior to a dapper install?
[12:36] <Shyne_> can anyone tell me how i can downgrade from Edgy to Dapper ?
[12:36] <[UNLY] mrp> its running
[12:36] <mnepton> Jowi: sure. drop to the kernel params screen at boot.
[12:36] <mnepton> eeek! SNET!
[12:36] <[UNLY] mrp> do i need to do anything on the win98 machine?
[12:36] <Pasteurized> snowblink: I dont really anderstand what I should do ... :(
[12:36] <Jowi> mnepton: cool will try that. need efivars module for dapper to install on a intel mac-mini.
[12:37] <snowblink> Pasteurized, you need to reboot into singleuser mode and put that user back in the admin group
[12:37] <Pasteurized> what do you mean by singleuser mode ?
[12:37] <Kameli> Hello, i just bought Quake 2 and i would like to burn it to CD, but i can't copy files from the CD to my hard disk because when i try to open CD with nautilus, it just opens it with some Sound Juicer, help me, how i can browse and copy files from my Quake-CD? :(
[12:37] <mnepton> Kameli: right-click it
[12:38] <Kameli> i can't :(
[12:38] <mnepton> why?
[12:38] <Kameli> even with right click
[12:38] <Kameli> i have tried them all :(
[12:38] <mnepton> nautilus /media/cdrom
[12:38] <mnepton> nautilus /media/cdrom0
[12:38] <mnepton> or whatever
[12:39] <Kameli> hmm
[12:39] <Kameli> it shows it's empty
[12:39] <Shyne_> can i downgrade edgy back to dapper by using the old repositories and doing a dist-upgrade ?????
[12:39] <whaley> Kameli: iirc, the quake2 cd is a combo of data/audio
[12:39] <Kameli> Shyne_: edgy will be out 26th
[12:39] <Kameli> :)
[12:39] <Pasteurized> snowblink: what do you mean by singleuser mode ?
[12:39] <mnepton> Shyne_: not really. best bet is to reinstall off CD.
[12:39] <Kameli> whaley: yes, it is? :)
[12:39] <snowblink> Pasteurized, reboot but add kernel parameter single
[12:39] <Shyne_> hmm
[12:39] <Shyne_> ok
[12:40] <snowblink> Pasteurized, then you will go into a root shell, then add your user back into the admin group
[12:40] <Kameli> whaley: but i can't browse files in CD :/
[12:40] <whaley> Kameli: try remounting it (pop it out and pop it back in again) and right clicking to open it inin nautilus
[12:40] <Shyne_> if i want to get rid of firefox 2.0 and use firefox 1.5 dist version should i change repositories ?
[12:40] <whaley> Kameli: if that fails, we should see if you can get to it from the command line
[12:41] <Kameli> whaley: It works! Many thanks for you! =)
[12:41] <whaley> Kameli: :)
[12:42] <whaley> happy quaking
[12:43] <Pasteurized> thanks snowblink, i'm gonna try
[12:43] <bun-bun> within the synaptic package manager, if you select "complete removal" for a package, does that mean it's going to remove all the dependant packages that it installed?
[12:43] <keikun17> im having a prob with my sound card (built-in on my laptop), it cant be detected by ubuntu, can someone help?
[12:44] <defrysk> its roving everything of the package including the cofiguration
[12:44] <mnepton> bun-bun: no
[12:44] <defrysk> removing*
[12:44] <defrysk> configuration*
[12:44] <oskude> bun-bun: i think that means it removes allso the config files (but i could be wrong)
[12:44] <hyby> keikun17 type lspci -l
[12:44] <hyby> and see whether it comes up?
[12:44] <keikun17> k wait a sec
[12:44] <bun-bun> ty all
[12:45] <hyby> cause i myself and having problems with sound
[12:45] <shinobi2> anyone off hand, if ubuntu's live cd comes with "dd" command?
[12:45] <keikun17> hyb : nope :(
[12:45] <keikun17> hyby : it aint there
[12:45] <Pasteurized> snowblink: I should type $ usermod -Ga admin tups ?
[12:46] <snowblink> Pasteurized, Hopefully in single user mode you have a # instead of $
[12:46] <oskude> shinobi2: propably... afaik its running busybox
[12:46] <Pasteurized> yes snowblink, sorry :)
[12:47] <snowblink> Pasteurized, sure, go ahead and do that, then check /etc/group
[12:47] <shinobi2> oskude: i think so too, cause i did not install too much extra stuff on this box and it has "dd" on it.
[12:48] <keikun17> >_>
[12:48] <adsc> anyone have experience with apache2 in front of zope?
[12:48] <oskude> shinobi2: ah, you mean the installed system ? yes, that definetly has dd
[12:49] <Pasteurized> snowblink: Now I've admin:x:106:tups in /etc/group
[12:49] <snowblink> Pasteurized, good, now you can reboot your system as normal
[12:50] <Pasteurized> all those reboot aren't good for my uptime statistics ;-)
[12:50] <darkanyel> hi
[12:50] <darkanyel> why my webcam is in Black and White???
[12:50] <shinobi2> oskude: i am looking for the live cd right now.  wonder where i put it
[12:51] <hyby> kekun17: what does it say, does it list any sound devices
[12:52] <keikun17> nope
[12:52] <keikun17> no sound device there~
[12:52] <keikun17> how bout you?
[12:54] <hyby> i i have my soundcard appear, Intel ICH6, however i can not get any sound
[12:54] <Pasteurized> it's working now snowblink :) thanks for all mate !
[12:54] <snowblink> Pasteurized, np
[12:55] <keikun17> i have intel sound card too.. but its not showing up
[12:55] <bud_resin> how can i mount an ext3 partition from another harddrive as a user instead of as root?
[12:56] <boink> I think only root can mount drives
[12:56] <boink> and umount them as well
[12:56] <oskude> bud_resin: you have to add it to /etc/fstab and add an option "user" (and maybe others)
[12:56] <boink> aaaah
[12:58] <oskude> bud_resin: and i saw if you add a new mount point with System > Administration > Disks it makes it user mountable automaticly (well, i just tried that once..)
[12:58] <bud_resin> ty
[01:00] <hyby> keikun, check in windoz and see what type of sound card
[01:00] <hyby> are you using dapper
[01:18] <yakumo> hello anyone know how to convert my AVI video to mp4 so i can play it on my psp?
[01:19] <nmsa> hello
[01:21] <gyro54> Can anyone help with a gnome-panel lock up problem?
[01:21] <nmsa> I have a question related to my system: I see from gkrellm every second or so there are operations or r&w on my HDD, constantly, even if I do nothing on pc, how can I check which process is using the HDD?
[01:22] <yakumo> is there any software for ubuntu that convert avi video to mp4? cause i want to play it on my psp
[01:23] <nmsa> yakumo: try ffmpeg
[01:23] <yakumo> is it a converter? or a player?
[01:24] <cpk2> is there a nero type clone avaible in the repos? or anywhere for that matter?
[01:24] <nmsa> do: man ffmpeg: ffmpeg - FFmpeg video converter
[01:25] <gyro54> I can't access any of my drop down menus. When I scoll over them the icon is missing and the computer locks for a period then gives a message gnome-panel has quit unexpectedly. Any ideas??
[01:27] <gyro54> I can access the top menu items but when i move the mouse down the system locks.
[01:27] <yakumo> i download ffmpeg
[01:27] <nmsa> gyro54: can you try: kill -9 `ps aux | grep gnome-panel | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}'`; gnome-panel
[01:27] <yakumo> what shall i do after i download
[01:28] <nmsa> read the manual of ffmpeg ... is full of options
[01:28] <yakumo> is mplayer also has a converter?
[01:28] <nmsa> no
[01:29] <gyro54> I've detected a panel already running,
[01:29] <gyro54> and will now exit.
[01:29] <gyro54> This was the massage I received. Many times
[01:30] <gyro54> (gnome-panel:8410): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed
[01:30] <gyro54> (gnome-panel:8410): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -5 and height 24
[01:31] <gyro54> Does this mean anything??
[01:31] <nmsa> gyro54: not to me, sorry
[01:32] <gyro54> What would you do?
[01:32] <yakumo> how do i copy the content when i use sudo man?
[01:35] <ricanelite> anyone here can help me install Flash Player?
[01:35] <krang> ricanelite: what's the problem?
[01:35] <dakira> any edgy users in the house?
[01:36] <POVaddct> dakira: /join #ubuntu+1
[01:36] <nmsa> gyro54: what version of gnome-panel do you have ?
[01:36] <dakira> POVaddct: ahh thx
[01:36] <ricanelite> dont know how to install it, I have the download file on my desktop
[01:37] <gyro54> What ever is the latest. I have a fully upto date system 6.06
[01:38] <krang> ricanelite: Leave that file there, and apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:39] <ricanelite> so i type that in Terminal?
[01:39] <krang> ricanelite: yup
[01:39] <ricanelite> I'm new to linux so please forgive me
[01:39] <gyro54> can i apt-get repair the gnome panel?
[01:39] <krang> ricanelite: no trouble, it can be hairy at first :-)
[01:40] <nmsa> gyro54: you may want to search ubuntuforums.org, there are a few topics on gnome crashes
[01:40] <nmsa> sorry, more then that I can't help
[01:40] <ricanelite> i get this error message E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:40] <ricanelite> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[01:40] <gandolfthewizard> hi looking for some help with installing the java plug in
[01:40] <krang> ricanelite: you'll probably want to type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree". Sorry, forgot you are new
[01:40] <krang> ricanelite: Don't type the quotes
[01:41] <ricanelite> i did'nt
[01:41] <oskude> gyro54: you can reinstall that with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-panel"
[01:41] <seshomaru123> hi , my apache stopped working , it seems like another programme is using port80 - how do i find what it is and stop it?
[01:41] <gyro54> I looked for something similar but nothing there. I will look again
[01:41] <krang> ricanelite: the sudo command executes what you type as the superuser, which you need to do when installing stuff
[01:41] <ricanelite> so i type in 'sudo' first then apt
[01:41] <krang> just as it was inside the quotes
[01:42] <M_A_K> For some strange reason, every day I need to change my deffault route on kubuntu.
[01:42] <krang> then press enter
[01:42] <ricanelite> ok
[01:42] <M_A_K> It seems to default to some strange route.
[01:42] <kiko> hola alguien que hable en espaol
[01:42] <krang> ricanelite: Just give it your standard login password when it asks
[01:42] <ricanelite> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:42] <ricanelite> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[01:43] <oskude> seshomaru123: "lsof" shows open files (and network connections) but i forgot the flag to that...
[01:43] <krang> ricanelite: ah, you may need extra repositories
[01:43] <nmsa> pentru informarea dvs. avem si canal in limba romana: ubuntu-ro
[01:43] <ricanelite> where can i get that?
[01:43] <seshomaru123> oskude, thanks i'll try
[01:44] <krang> ricanelite: do you want to do this the much, much easier way? If you install automatix, it adds the repos and installs a bunch of software that you can select automatically.
[01:44] <M_A_K> Can I mount a nfs share as a particular user?  Now I must run mount as root and it is root that gets the perms on the share, correct?
[01:44] <ricanelite> oka
[01:44] <krang> ricanelite: of course that includes flash
[01:44] <ricanelite> anything that will be easy for me
[01:45] <oskude> seshomaru123: "lsof -i" got from here http://sial.org/howto/debug/unix/lsof/
[01:46] <oskude> seshomaru123: wait, that only shows connections, was that what you wanted ?
[01:46] <ricanelite> how do i install automtix?
[01:46] <oskude> !automatix
[01:46] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:47] <seshomaru123> oskude, i want to know which programme uses port 80
[01:47] <krang> ricanelite: in the terminal, type this:  sudo echo "deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt dapper main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:48] <ricanelite> with the quotes?
[01:48] <krang> ricanelite: yup
[01:48] <hayden> i just installed ubuntu on my ibook 1.2ghz 1.25gb ram 14" screen, and whenever i move a window around it gets like an onion effect, is there updated 2d drivers for it?
[01:49] <oskude> seshomaru123: hmm, without a connection... dunno atm, ill look...
[01:49] <krang> ricanelite: then this: wget http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/key.gpg.asc
[01:49] <porkpie> Guy's any idea when the new release is coming out ....I have a POwer edge 1950 which I can install ubuntu on
[01:50] <gandolfthewizard> hey anyone now why i can't get java plug-in installed
[01:50] <seshomaru123> oskude, thanks
[01:50] <nmsa> !raid
[01:50] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:51] <ricanelite> do i type >>?
[01:51] <oskude> seshomaru123: http://blog.spikesource.com/fuser_netstat.htm (google rulez! ;)
[01:52] <krang> ricanelite: are you still on the echoing bit? Um, let's just say that when I use this character: #
[01:52] <oskude> seshomaru123: but, "fuser -n tcp 80" doesnt show my apache here :/
[01:52] <krang> ricanelite: that you type everything after it as it appears
[01:52] <krang> ricanelite: can you copy/paste this stuff, or are you on a different machine?
[01:53] <ricanelite> 7:51:45--  http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/key.gpg.asc
[01:53] <ricanelite>            => `key.gpg.asc'
[01:53] <ricanelite> Resolving www.getautomatix.com... 82.165.194.143
[01:53] <ricanelite> Connecting to www.getautomatix.com|82.165.194.143|:80... connected.
[01:53] <ricanelite> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[01:53] <ricanelite> Length: 1,730 (1.7K) [text/plain] 
[01:53] <ricanelite> 100%[[01:53] <ricanelite> 07:51:47 (944.36 KB/s) - `key.gpg.asc' saved [1730/1730] 
[01:53] <ricanelite> thats what i got
[01:53] <oskude> !paste > ricanelite
[01:53] <ricanelite> what did i do??
[01:53] <fildo> !paste > ricanelite
[01:53] <oskude> ricanelite: read ubotus message,
[01:54] <hayden> i just installed ubuntu on my ibook 1.2ghz 1.25gb ram 14" screen, and whenever i move a window around it gets like an onion effect, is there updated 2d drivers for it?
[01:54] <ricanelite> no im on the same machine
[01:54] <krang> ricanelite: erk, you're not supposed to paste that much in here
[01:54] <sethk> hayden, there are options about what happens to a window when it is moved
[01:54] <oskude> krang: ricanelite please goto #automatix for automatix stuff!
[01:54] <sethk> hayden, such as, display or don't display contents, etc.
[01:54] <sethk> hayden, some combination of those options should fix your problem
[01:55] <ricanelite> im sorry guys! i did'nt know
[01:55] <sethk> ricanelite, there is no rule that says you can't ask about automatix here
[01:55] <sethk> ricanelite, you might get more info over there, but you are certainly allowed to ask your questions here.
[01:56] <krang> oskude: neither did actually
[01:56] <hayden> sethk, so there aren't any newer 2d drivers?
[01:56] <sethk> hayden, I don't know of any, no, but the question is irrelevant, since you don't have a driver problem.
[01:57] <krang> here's the next line (paste everything after the hash mark): #gpg --import key.gpg.asc
[01:57] <whyso> can u resize a xfs partitian
[01:57] <oskude> seshomaru123: sorry, cant find a solution, but there is more than one, just keep asking...
[01:57] <sethk> whyso, sure, as long as you don't mind losing all the data on the partition
[01:57] <whyso> hehe
[01:58] <sethk> whyso, I don't know of a resizer that handles xfs.  Even if I did, I would _always_ back up before even thinking about resizing a partition
[01:58] <gandolfthewizard> sorry i am back now
[01:58] <Ramunas> opera -newpage %s doesn't open link in new tab, it opens it in the same tab, how do I make it open it in the new tab
[01:58] <Ramunas> ?
[01:59] <gandolfthewizard> i am trying to get the java plug-in installed i have tried everything that has beeen  on your site and i still can't get it to install any ideas
[01:59] <oskude> seshomaru123: wait, try this "sudo netstat --all --programs | grep www" atleast that shows my apache2
[01:59] <seshomaru123> askude i will try
[01:59] <sunpac> hmm. what's the package name for the game 'puzzle bubble'?
[01:59] <oskude> sunbug: frozen-bubble (iirc)
[01:59] <sethk> best way to check for listening on port 80 is   netstat -nap | egrep '^tcp.*80'
[01:59] <sunpac> oskude, yes, that's right :)
[02:00] <Alzi2> For every site I visit with firefox, it asks if i should accept the certificate. Is this a new "feature" or something? how to disable it?
[02:00] <ricanelite> how do i sign in?
[02:00] <sethk> Alzi2, it only asks if the certificate cannot be validated.  There is an option to disable it.
[02:00] <krang> ricanelite: sign in to what?
[02:00] <ricanelite> to here
[02:00] <seshomaru123> oskude,  i got : tcp        0      0 192.168.1.102:33196     static-fxfeeds.nslb:www ESTABLISHED5912/firefox-bin
[02:00] <seshomaru123> tcp        0      1 192.168.1.102:59157     www42.thny.bbc.co.u:www SYN_SENT   5912/firefox-bin
[02:00] <seshomaru123> tcp6       0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN     5398/apache2
[02:01] <ricanelite> because im trying to send you a message
[02:01] <oskude> seshomaru123: please dont paste here more than 1 line!
[02:01] <oskude> !paste > seshomaru123
[02:01] <krang> ricanelite: ah, that's an arse. You have to get your nick registered
[02:01] <oskude> seshomaru123: seems there is only apache2 listening on port 80
[02:01] <ricanelite> it is
[02:01] <gandolfthewizard> this is what i am getting when i try to get it through the terminal E: Couldn't find package jr2rel.4
[02:02] <oskude> ricanelite: after you registered the nick you allso have to identify your self to nickserv
[02:03] <krang> ricanelite: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[02:03] <usamahashimi> hi all
[02:03] <seshomaru123> oskude , thats strange , the reason i want to find out whats on port 80 is that apache2 refuses to start claiming another utility is already using port 80
[02:03] <krang> ricanelite: oh, you registered. then type /msg nickerv identify yourpassword
[02:03] <usamahashimi> i want to make network b/w two linux pcs, can anyone help me?
[02:03] <krang> ricanelite: obviously putting your actual password in there
[02:04] <oskude> seshomaru123: well, apache2 is allready running... (you control it with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart) (or stop/start)
[02:05] <oskude> seshomaru123: wehn you apt-get install apache2, it will be started automaticly
[02:05] <gandolfthewizard> can someone help please
[02:05] <seshomaru123> oskude apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[02:05] <krang> ricanelite: if that's hassle, don't worry, there's like 2 lines left here
[02:06] <oskude> seshomaru123: you can ignore that error message...
[02:06] <seshomaru123> oskude, httpd (pid 5398?) not running
[02:06] <whyso> k  thanks  sethk
[02:06] <ricanelite> well im confuse how to put in the lines
[02:06] <seshomaru123> it was running until today
[02:06] <usamahashimi> can anyone guide me about making network?
[02:06] <oskude> seshomaru123: do you get something if you go to http://localhost with browser ?
[02:06] <krang> ricanelite: just copy them as i put them in then paste them into your command line
[02:07] <oskude> seshomaru123: here for the first error https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-6ce180906ddbc141ef4b213f82465515a8ad3031
[02:07] <porkpie> Guy's is there a build out that support the Dell PE 1950 .....
[02:07] <ricanelite> i sent you a message
[02:07] <tin_nqn> hello peopel
[02:07] <krang> ricanelite: I didn't get it, you have to have identified with nickserv
[02:07] <gandolfthewizard> ok why can't i get y java plug-in installed for firefox
[02:08] <tin_nqn> how can I disable the auto turn off of the monitor when I watch a movie with totem?
[02:08] <seshomaru123> oskude , i can get my web on http://localhost but not on my ip adress and not on http://192.168.1.100/
[02:08] <H-I-M> why is it when i pull my highlight tool across my desktop it takes 100% resources?
[02:08] <AbortD> 100% CPU i should say
[02:09] <Windwalker78> can somebody help please experience is needed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274764&highlight=8139
[02:09] <oskude> seshomaru123: well, works here...
[02:09] <jad_jay> hello, some news about the edgy eft
[02:10] <jad_jay> s/hello, some news about the edgy eft?
[02:10] <oskude> seshomaru123: you could add "192.168.1.100 localhost" to your /etc/hosts file and try again... (for remote connections, look for your firewall)
[02:11] <Windwalker78> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274764&highlight=8139
[02:11] <unres> :( i cant get my Broadcom Wireless 4306 working :( i tried FWCutter and it would load the driver but i couldnt connect to anything, then i tried NDISWrapper the interface wouldnt even show up
[02:11] <oskude> seshomaru123: if you want people to acces that from internet, i suggest you read more about that topic...
[02:11] <gnomefreak> jad_jay: ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:11] <unres> can someone offer me help in either getting NDISWrapper working, or a tutorial to getting the card working in general?
[02:11] <krang> ricanelite: Did you get all those privmsgs? I sent you all the lines you need to type
[02:12] <Windwalker78> what is #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <seshomaru123> oskude the problem is that that this was a running server for over 6 months , i didnt install it today
[02:12] <ricanelite> yes
[02:12] <krang> ricanelite: ok, tell me if something goes wrong somewhere in there :-)
[02:12] <oskude> seshomaru123: was it accessible over internet ?
[02:12] <seshomaru123> oskude, yes very
[02:13] <jad_jay> gnomefreak: thanks!
[02:13] <oskude> seshomaru123: then you should examine if it was compromised...
[02:13] <krang> ricanelite: when you sudo apt-get update, it might take a while to install all your updates, have you got a fairly speedy connection?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> jad_jay: yw
[02:13] <seshomaru123> oskude, HOW?
[02:13] <gyro54> can I reinstall Gnome-panel and if so how?
[02:14] <oskude> seshomaru123: well, exactly that is your job if you but something accesible from internet!
[02:14] <gandolfthewizard> gm morning everyone
[02:14] <krang> gandolfthewizard: humbug
[02:14] <freakky> how can i save in vi editor ?
[02:15] <seshomaru123> oskude, i'm afraid i dont understand what you mean
[02:15] <gandolfthewizard> looking for some help on java plug-in
[02:15] <POVaddct> !console
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <POVaddct> !keymap
[02:15] <oskude> seshomaru123: you cant just use some tools without knowing how to use them or how to secure them, and then let the whole internet get acces to it... i cant, and wont help you on that, sorry...
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keymap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <freakky> hello, anyone can tell me what is the command to save in " vi " editor?
[02:16] <mjr> :w
[02:16] <freakky> mjr: :w ?
[02:16] <freakky> mjr and where can i write that command?
[02:17] <seshomaru123> oskude , ok thanks anyway
[02:17] <frogzoo> anyone tried using monitors with pivot ? ie, can X be set to display a rotated image ?
[02:17] <mjr> freakky, in vi, in the default mode (forget what it was called...)
[02:17] <gandolfthewizard> hey guys i have tried everything for the last 4 days to get java installed for my fire fox web browser  and i can't seem to get it installed or find it i am new to linux and i have litterly tried everything so any help that you all could give me i would really appreciate it
[02:18] <freakky> mjr yea but i don't know where can i type that command
[02:18] <mjr> frogzoo, actually yes, but that is more... involved... than it should really be. If you're into tuning, look up xrandr. Support may depend on driver also.
[02:18] <frogzoo> mjr: would fglrx support it ?
[02:19] <mjr> freakky, in the vi terminal? If you're in insert mode, press esc first.
[02:19] <mjr> frogzoo, no idea
[02:19] <freakky> mjr ok let me check
[02:19] <freakky> mjr done
[02:19] <freakky> mjr after that ?
[02:19] <gyro54> can I reinstall Gnome-panel and if so how?
[02:20] <zybrid> http://home.zybrid.se/secret1/Screenshot-1.png <- whats wrong here? running dapper freshinstall + xgl + beryl +1440x900
[02:20] <mjr> freakky, I told you, :w
[02:20] <frogzoo> mjr: thx, will checkout xrandr
[02:21] <gyro54> freakky use the colon
[02:21] <freakky> mjr ok, done after that ? :)
[02:21] <mjr> After that it should be saved. Provided you pressed enter.
[02:21] <freakky> mjr it says "start" 31L, 1442C written
[02:21] <ChickenTalons> gyro54, this is a family channel
[02:22] <zybrid> oh, i solved my problem,, i switched between metacity and berel and it fixed itself. thanks anyway :)
[02:22] <gyro54> sounds rude doesn't it
[02:22] <mjr> freakky, then :q quits, and never run vi again without a reference guide
[02:22] <freakky> mjr ok, thanks a alot
[02:23] <Danny> Hi there! Searching w32codecs most recent version for edgy. is marrilat still 1st choise? couldnt find it there
[02:23] <M_A_K> Can someone help me with the mount command?
[02:23] <seshomaru123> oskude, you it appears that the problem was in the router that changed my static ip to a dynamic one and caused all sort of changes. thanks for your help anyway....
[02:24] <Danny> what's your problem MAK?
[02:24] <oskude> seshomaru123: hope youre loggin all activites on your server...
[02:24] <M_A_K> How do I mount a share using a specific username and password (nfs)?
[02:24] <M_A_K> Ubuntu requires root to use mount and I do not want to mount as root.
[02:25] <gyro54> my gnome-panel is broken and I'm very upset.
[02:25] <ed209> what up gyro54
[02:25] <ed209> whats up gyro54
[02:26] <Danny> so you want to login with specific credentials or you want to be able to "mount" as a user other than root?
[02:26] <gyro54> I can't access any of my drop down menus. When I scoll over them the icon is missing and the computer locks for a period then gives a message gnome-panel has quit unexpectedly. Any ideas??
[02:26] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[02:27] <oskude> gyro54: got a "pure" ubuntu dapper installation ?
[02:27] <seshomaru123> oskude , i am , but never checked the logs! this server hosts my sons pix for my parents oversees, it is important for my family ,but i keep all pix on DVDs so i am not that concerned about safety (+ plus i dont know much about it...)
[02:27] <ed209> gyro54: unknown from that description, but you could goto your home directory and delete ".gconf" - be warned though you will lose your theme settings and current layout < this will revert back to default layout
[02:27] <oskude> seshomaru123: are you using php ?
[02:27] <gyro54> yes clean install 6.06 fully up to date.
[02:27] <seshomaru123> oskude no
[02:27] <oskude> seshomaru123: then half of youre worries are gone ;)
[02:28] <gyro54> how do i ls hidden files?
[02:28] <oskude> gyro54: hmm, then that sounds bad :/ (maybe a bug)
[02:28] <POVaddct> gyro54: ls -a
[02:28] <ed209> ls -lhas < does a good job
[02:28] <disasm> heya all, I heard debian is no longer going to have firefox per say, but a fork called ice weasel... Please tell me ubuntu isn't following suit in this ridiculous escapade...
[02:28] <seshomaru123> oskude, i use NVU!
[02:29] <oskude> seshomaru123: ok, so you deliver only static html pages... then you might be pretty safe with standard apache2 install...
[02:29] <M_A_K> Danny : need to mount with specific credientials so "I" am owner of folder being mounted.
[02:29] <Danny> anyone know a good loc for w32codecs? where to get the most recent ones?
[02:29] <ChickenTalons> disasm, isnt ice weasel just a beta of firefox? relax!
[02:29] <Xinos2> Hi
[02:29] <der0b> is there anything wrong with changing the perms on your home dir to 700?  Also, is there a way to make that the default?
[02:29] <seshomaru123> oskude, gota go , thanx for help
[02:30] <gyro54> tried to rename and got this ...  syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "."
[02:30] <Ryan_rj> Good night everyone
[02:30] <Ryan_rj> I am just at Ubuntu's website right now.
[02:30] <Xinos2> Can someone help me mount my harddrives? I'm on Ubunthu live and it says "Couln't display '/dev/hdb/'" or any other drive that is listed in dev
[02:31] <bimberi> der0b: no, nothing wrong with that.  Not sure where it's set for new account creation though
[02:31] <der0b> thanks bimberi :)
[02:31] <ed209> gyro54:  are you currently in your X-Server? if so just open nautilus with sudo and navigate to your home dir then show hidden files and rename the file or "cp" it somewhere then delete it and restart your x-server
[02:31] <Ryan_rj> I'd like to ask you, how good is it with notebooks and should I download the "ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso" or the "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso" ???
[02:31] <bimberi> der0b: np :)
[02:31] <disasm> ChickenTalons: sadly... no... mozilla foundation wants debian to use their logo if they use their name, and debian says their logo does not adhere to the debian policy... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel - from a technical standpoint, it is firefox, but from a person that has never used linux before standpoint it's confusion...
[02:32] <Xinos2> My windows decided to patch itself which conflicted with my TV card drivers and now windows is unbootable. "winsrv" failed and now NO computer can boot any os (not even ubunthu live) when that disk is plugged in.
[02:32] <gyro54> I can't Nautilus crashes every time I open it. It is all related to the menu system. I am running Opera from the terminal
[02:33] <bimberi> Ryan_rj: try the desktop iso, as long as you have 256Mb RAM or more, otherwise the alternate.  I'm on a notebook right now :)
[02:33] <ed209> ok, then can you sudo cp /home/gyro54/.gconf /home/somewhereelse/.gconf.backup
[02:33] <oskude> Ryan_rj: the good thing about desktop cd is, that it starts a "working" ubuntu before install, so you see rightaway if all hardware is working out-of-the-box (and you need atleast 192mb ram)... alternate uses the good old text mode installer and doesnt need so much ram... but the result on both (After install) is the same
[02:33] <Ryan_rj> Bimberi, thank you very much I shall begin download now! I am fed up with SUSE linux, I heard good things about both so I will give it a go.
[02:34] <ChickenTalons> rofl, ice weasel will be better thaN firefox, nothing to worry about
[02:34] <ChickenTalons> if anything, mozilla screwed themselves
[02:34] <Ryan_rj> She'll be alright, I have 512 ram !
[02:34] <Ryan_rj> Thanks guys. I will re-join once (should if !) everything works!
[02:34] <Ryan_rj> Cheers.
[02:35] <ed209> gyro54: you manage to back it up?
[02:37] <boink> anyone here know about installing transcoding on ubuntu?
[02:38] <M_A_K> Danny : looks like anonuid is what I need?
[02:38] <knoppix> ?
[02:38] <knoppix> ka veikiat?
[02:38] <cntb> !smbserver > cntb
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <cntb> !smb > cntb
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <gyro54> no i tried to cp but got an error. will try to rm
[02:39] <boink> !tell boink about transcode
[02:39] <boink> !tell boink about transcoding
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transcoding - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <knoppix> ono
[02:39] <cntb> !samba > cntb
[02:39] <knoppix> wtf
[02:39] <knoppix> ?
[02:40] <ed209> when your cp, try putting the name in " " < quotes if it begins with a dot (.)
[02:40] <ed209> goto go, good luck byee
[02:40] <gyro54> ed209  thanks
[02:41] <Mille> howdy
[02:43] <Mille> Something has happend to my nm-applet. When hovering my mouse over it, it says that "no network devices have been found". So the icon by the clock in the upper left corner is displayed with a litle orange warning triangel on it. How can i fix this? Tried to reinstall it already.
[02:45] <Windwalker78> Does anybody have rtk8139 on Dapper?
[02:46] <surface> j #bash
[02:52] <ChickenTalons> Windwalker78, that should be built in
[02:52] <ChickenTalons> thats my onboard for my intel 865 boards
[02:52] <ChickenTalons> both work fine in ubuntu and 64bit ubuntu
[02:55] <bayzider> Someone help me. Yesterday, I was in here asking people how to get my xorg.conf back. And this "kitche" person gaveme this weird like almost apt get command for a x-sever. When i ran it i whent threw the instal and right when it finished, my graphical desktop disappeared, Leving me with only a text log in screen(as in no desktop no nothing just "B& login:" or somthing) When i loged in it just gave me stats and then kind of a terminal inter
[02:55] <screechingcat> i need some help with gnome-panel
[02:55] <sethk> bayzider, do you mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[02:56] <bayzider> sethk : its either that or somthing extremly close
[02:56] <Samuel> #ubuntu-it
[02:57] <aeroSoul> bayzider: what does ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*xserver* show you?
[02:57] <sethk> bayzider, that is the correct command to reconfigure X.   Have you run it again?  Possibly you didn't make the correct choices?
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> bayzider, probably that ... thats the standard response
[02:57] <aeroSoul> bayzider: does it show xserver-xorg stuff?
[02:57] <stigi> Hm, Im trying to get quak2 to work, I have absolutely no clue how to do this, because the only thing Iv got is my install folder from Windows, the CDs gone and I dont have some kind of image or anything, is there even a way to make this work ?
[02:57] <jkku3> what does the "it" in #ubuntu-it stand for?
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> jkku3, italy
[02:57] <jkku3> oh
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> jkku3, thats a local channel ... for example #ubuntu-fr is for french and so on
[02:57] <screechingcat> i changed a setting in gconf editor and now, every second restart my panel (which i use as a dock) goes to the centre of the screen and becomes unmovable
[02:58] <screechingcat> anyone having this problem ?
[02:58] <bayzider> aeroSoul: it showed my nothing it paused then made a new line
[02:59] <die7> problem?
[02:59] <Mille> anyone...? about the nm-applet problem?
[02:59] <aeroSoul> bayzider: did you type apt-get remove xserver-xorg or something yesterday? =
[02:59] <aeroSoul> =)
[03:00] <aeroSoul> does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" give you an error?
[03:00] <bayzider> aeroSoul: no i think it was dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg however i didnt know the correct answers to all question so i just keept presing enter
[03:00] <Mogz> hm... using xgl I get slow video in fullscreen with totem?
[03:00] <Mogz> (beryl)
[03:00] <charlie5> hi all
[03:00] <aeroSoul> bayzider: pressing enter usually works... except for the gfx driver
[03:00] <Mogz> anyone recognize this prob?
[03:00] <bayzider> aeroSoul: thats great how do i save my machine
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> Mogz, for xgl , pls ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:00] <aeroSoul> bayzider: when you are prompted to select a gfx driver, select "vesa"
[03:00] <aeroSoul> in dpkg-reconfigure
[03:00] <Mogz> ok. thanks.
[03:01] <charlie5> is anyone familiar with aMule ? I only seem to get d/l's in a trickle with hardly any connections ... might I need to change a setting ?
[03:01] <charlie5> i have set d/l limit to 0, meaning no limit i think
[03:01] <bayzider> aeroSoul: i just ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it is the install screen as yesterday
[03:01] <aeroSoul> bayzider: then press enter everywhere except when u have to select the gfx card
[03:01] <sethk> bayzider, I don't really see where aeroSoul is going with this.  If whatever he is doing doesn't work out, let me know and we'll try something.
[03:02] <bayzider> aeroSoul: ok
[03:02] <aeroSoul> sethk: as he pressed enter everywhere i suppose that he has the wrong gfx driver... if his x doesnt start up
[03:02] <sethk> aeroSoul, it's possible, but only one of many possibilities.
[03:02] <werner_> I have a portable WD USB-disk, but it wont show up when I plug it in on my laptop (ubuntu 5.10), but it has no problems when I connect it to my stationary (ubuntu 6.06). Are there any packages I can install to make it work on my laptop?
[03:03] <screechingcat>  i changed a setting in gconf editor and now, every second restart my panel (which i use as a dock) goes to the centre of the screen and becomes unmovable. the setting i changed was the autohide_size value. i changed it so that that little bit dosent stick out when it is set to autohide. anyone having this problem ?
[03:03] <aeroSoul> the vesa driver is a standard driver which should work with every gfx card... that's why i told him to select vesa
[03:03] <oskude> werner_: dunno if breezy had automount for usb disks... you may have to mount it manually...
[03:03] <Ramunas> anybody here using xchat with Opera?
[03:03] <sethk> aeroSoul, ok, if this should turn out to have anything to do with gfx, that may work.
[03:03] <bayzider> aeroSoul: what do i do at this screen http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5217/screenshotyr3.png
[03:03] <oskude> Ramunas: xchat with opera ? how does that work ?
[03:04] <screechingcat> oskude, i think its a plugin
[03:04] <oskude> OMG
[03:04] <Ramunas> oskude: you click on link in xchat and it opens in Opera
[03:04] <Rambo3> Ramunas, you mean irc
[03:04] <aeroSoul> bayzider: it's irrelevant what you type there
[03:04] <Windwalker78> Please help on the post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274764&highlight=8139
[03:04] <Ramunas> Rambo3: no
[03:04] <unres> i have a DWL-122 USB wifi adapter, it appears as Wlan0 but there is also a wmmaster0-00
[03:04] <werner_> oskude, thanks.
[03:04] <Dsbeerf> hi, someone can take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/ and tell me what wrong mplayer is not in repos when i do apt-get install mplayer :( i alrealy enable multiuniverse etc and i does apt-get update too what wrong ?
[03:04] <bayzider> aeroSoul: so just press enter?
[03:04] <unres> any idea how to use this devicee?
[03:04] <aeroSoul> bayzider: you can press enter or type anything you want
[03:04] <oskude> Ramunas: aaah, lol... hmm, look in options
[03:05] <Ramunas> oskude: well the problem is that it does't work as it should
[03:05] <screechingcat> Ramunas, but there is an IRC prog built right into Opera that is very decent
[03:05] <oskude> Ramunas: wait, i got option "open link in opera" when i right click on a clink in xchat
[03:05] <bayzider> aeroSoul: what is my video card bus identifyer?
[03:05] <aeroSoul> bayzider: enter :)
[03:05] <aeroSoul> should work
[03:05] <oskude> Ramunas: and that seems to work here
[03:05] <Ramunas> screechingcat: I know that, I'm Opera user
[03:05] <bayzider> AEROsOUL: how much memoery does my vdieo card need
[03:06] <aeroSoul> bayzider: also a question where i press enter since years...and it works for me
[03:06] <aeroSoul> for many gfx cards
[03:06] <Ramunas> oskude: it works, but if I set xchat to open links with just single left click on link, it doesn't work
[03:06] <screechingcat> Ramunas, well y mess around with Xchat when everything is so tightly integrated then ?
[03:06] <Ramunas> screechingcat: Opera's IRC client lacks some important features, like ignore, and logging, and few more
[03:06] <bayzider> aeroSoul: use kernal framebuffer interface yes or no
[03:07] <oskude> Ramunas: well, dunno about that...
[03:07] <aeroSoul> bayzider: i would first select no to rule that out as an error... might get a better perfomance if you select yes
[03:07] <screechingcat> Ramunas, ahhh . . . . i wouldnt kno. im a firefox + gaim + xchat addict
[03:07] <aeroSoul> but it confused my radeon some years ago so i select no there..
[03:07] <bayzider> aeroSoul: auto detect keybored lay out?
[03:07] <Ramunas> screechingcat: I'm Opera + gaim + xchat :P
[03:07] <aeroSoul> bayzider: yes
[03:08] <Xinos2> Does anyone know a good windows suport channel?
[03:08] <Dsbeerf> hi, someone can take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/ and tell me what wrong mplayer is not in repos when i do apt-get install mplayer :( i alrealy enable multiuniverse etc and i does apt-get update too what wrong ?
[03:08] <screechingcat> Xinos2, #windows ?
[03:09] <screechingcat> Xinos2, or 1-800-MICROSOFT
[03:09] <Xinos2> screechincat, it can't be that simple!
[03:09] <bayzider> aeroSoul: it is asking me to select my keybored model what do i type
[03:09] <Xinos2> microsoft ruined my computer in the first place
[03:09] <oskude> Ramunas: maybe you have to edit System > Preferences > Preferred Applications > Web Browser (maybe xchat uses the system default browser)
[03:09] <screechingcat> Xinos2, often the simplest answer is the best one
[03:09] <aeroSoul> bayzider: press enter and hope it works =)
[03:09] <Xinos2> dejavu, I know I read this chatlog before
[03:09] <aeroSoul> Dsbeerf: what do you see when you type "apt-cache search mplayer"?
[03:10] <Ramunas> oskude: already tried that, it still Opens it in the current tab, not in new tab as it should
[03:10] <aeroSoul> Dsbeerf: does it list some mplayer* packages?
[03:10] <screechingcat> Rambo3, that's opera's fault and not Xchat's
[03:10] <oskude> Ramunas: well, that seems like problem of opera, so you tell opera to open new tabs...
[03:10] <screechingcat> Ramunas,  that's opera's fault and not Xchat's
[03:10] <bayzider> aeroSoul: what do i do at this screen http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6117/screenshot1pq5.png
[03:11] <Dsbeerf> aeroSoul: i see just the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[03:11] <Ramunas> screechingcat: nope, that command works fine from terminal, just not from xchat
[03:11] <Capt_hook> is there any mp3 player for ubuntu?
[03:11] <aeroSoul> bayzider: leave everything as it is
[03:11] <Ramunas> Capt_hook: xmms
[03:11] <togge> i've just did a fresh install of ubuntu :) going tru this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851, but i get a few dependecie errors when trying to install nvidia-glx
[03:11] <Capt_hook> im newbie bout linux anyone can help me
[03:11] <Capt_hook> where i can download that one
[03:11] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, which one of the thousands do u want ?
[03:11] <Capt_hook> anything that cool :)
[03:11] <oskude> Ramunas: then look that you have the same command in preferred apps as you used in terminal...
[03:11] <jrib> ubotu: tell Capt_hook about mp3
[03:11] <Capt_hook> thank you
[03:12] <bayzider> aeroSoul: what video mode do i want to use?
[03:12] <Ramunas> oskude: I already checked, and in terminal it opens a new tab, though not in xchat
[03:12] <aeroSoul> bayzider: mode? what is it again? resolution?
[03:12] <bayzider> aeroSoul: yes they look like reolutions
[03:13] <aeroSoul> bayzider: it's enough to select the one you usually use... or you can select all.. doesn't really matter
[03:13] <oskude> Ramunas: well, better than mine, if i make opera preferred app (opera -newpage %s) it doesnt do anything with left click in xchat, lol
[03:13] <screechingcat> is it against the IRC code of condut to keep reposting your question if it is unanswered ?
[03:13] <aeroSoul> Dsbeerf: there is something missing in your sources.list i think
[03:14] <Ramunas> oskude: you need to enable left click on urls in xchat first
[03:14] <Dsbeerf> aeroSoul: what is ?
[03:14] <bayzider> aeroSoul: i forgot what i ussaly use but ican go find out
[03:14] <togge>  libxorg-sched-yield-hack0: Depends: xserver-xorg (>= 1:7.0.22) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is to be installed
[03:14] <togge> what should i do? never used apt-get before
[03:14] <cherubiel> screechingcat: being patient is, noting else is :)
[03:14] <Ramunas> oskude: /set gui_url_mod 0 does that
[03:14] <aeroSoul> Dsbeerf: to line 2 and 3 add "universe multiverse" at the end of the line
[03:14] <screechingcat> damn it ! i thought so . . . . oh well !
[03:14] <jrib> screechingcat: no, but wait some time (10-15 minutes is good imo).  also try mailing list and forums
[03:15] <cherubiel> screechingcat: what was your problem btw?
[03:15] <screechingcat>  i changed a setting in gconf editor and now, every second restart my panel (which i use as a dock) goes to the centre of the screen and becomes unmovable. the setting i changed was the autohide_size value. i changed it so that that little bit dosent stick out when it is set to autohide. anyone having this problem ?
[03:15] <aeroSoul> bayzider: you could select 1280x1024 to 800x600
[03:15] <aeroSoul> thats standard resolutions
[03:16] <Dsbeerf> aeroSoul:working thanks
[03:16] <bayzider> aeroSoul: i tihkn it worked but i have to boo out of the live to cd to see
[03:16] <bayzider> wish me luck
[03:16] <aeroSoul> =)
[03:17] <oskude> Ramunas: funny that this doesnt give any results "cat .xchat2/xchat.conf | grep gui_url_mod"
[03:17] <arepie> i've installed fglrx ati driver, and no direct randering, would anybody check.. -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26426/
[03:18] <unres> this is wierd, i have an RT73, and i try to configure it with the stock driver in Edgy but i cant get it to connect to the network
[03:19] <aeroSoul> arepie: you get no desktop?
[03:19] <arepie> aeroSoul: what do you mean?
[03:19] <aeroSoul> arepie: whats your prob?
[03:19] <Capt_hook> pls tell me what command shud i put in this error
[03:19] <Capt_hook> There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/cdrom0/mpegav/avseq01.dat", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[03:19] <arepie> my fglrx driver, doesn't support direct randering, and, the OpenGL is still mesa
[03:19] <arepie> aeroSoul:  my fglrx driver, doesn't support direct randering, and, the OpenGL is still mesa
[03:20] <aeroSoul> ok sry cant help...
[03:20] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, please look up Easy Ubuntu on the internet and use it
[03:21] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: using totem? go for mplayer
[03:21] <wickedpuppy> vlc!!!!
[03:21] <cherubiel> !mplayer
[03:21] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:21] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:21] <Capt_hook> thank you
[03:21] <cherubiel> vlc kics ass too, somehow i have learned to love mplayer
[03:21] <cherubiel> :)
[03:22] <screechingcat> i've fallen in love with the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[03:22] <screechingcat> it can play anything
[03:22] <DrCurl> hi
[03:22] <DrCurl> damn, security update is soooo slow
[03:22] <screechingcat> there's a security update out now ???
[03:23] <DrCurl> I just install a new dapper
[03:23] <DrCurl> 41 updates :(
[03:23] <iamtheobject> ubuntu made a linux user out of my girl and she used windows a lot but knew nothing about it.
[03:24] <screechingcat> ahh . . . . when i do that, i leave it to update over the night. i usually get around 201 updates (6.06)
[03:24] <screechingcat> !plf
[03:24] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[03:25] <jd_> hello, emacs, xlsfonts etc.. can not see or use the dejavu or bitstream Vera police under edgey. I read the launchpad thread about it and made the change in xorg.conf to substitute "X11/fonts" by "fonts/X11" to reflect the new edgy directory layout. But still, xlsfonts cannot see dejavu and emacs cannot use the font i told him.
[03:25] <arepie> !ati
[03:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:25] <Riot777> iamtheobject: nice
[03:26] <screechingcat> Ramunas, damn it man. i have the exact opposite of your problem. i have firefox set as my default browser and Xchat is opening links in opera (new tab)
[03:26] <jd_> Can you help me configure my police so that xlsfonts and emacs can see dejavu or biststream vera?
[03:26] <jd_> on edgy?
[03:26] <Riot777> I got friend with same expirience
[03:26] <rfboehme> anyone have any good tips on successfully running 64-bit Ubuntu on an AM2 socket processor? I installed using text mode, but X doesn't work and it's freezed the last times I tried to boot into the system (I installed the restricted package for my NVidia card, and copied over my xorg.comf from my other machine)
[03:26] <Tussius> hey all
[03:27] <Ramunas> screechingcat: guys from #xchat told me to bug the packager, as its probably a bug in our packets
[03:27] <screechingcat> how do i enable port-forwarding on ubuntu ? is it already enabled or somethin ? or is it just not possible
[03:27] <sethk> screechingcat, neither, most likely
[03:27] <oskude> screechingcat: it is possible
[03:27] <sethk> screechingcat, if you are set up as a router, you can certainly do port forwarding using iptables
[03:28] <screechingcat> i do have a router
[03:28] <sethk> screechingcat, based on the question, though, are you sure you know what port forwarding is?
[03:28] <sethk> screechingcat, not if you _have_ a router, if you are using ubuntu as a router
[03:28] <oskude> !portforward > screechingcat
[03:28] <screechingcat> nope. but utorrent requires it.
[03:28] <bayzider> aeroSoul: nope didnt work
[03:28] <sethk> screechingcat, you need to do some reading
[03:28] <sethk> bayzider, of course.
[03:28] <sethk> bayzider, I have to go to my lab, but I'll be back in a bit.
[03:28] <bayzider> sethk: can you help me?
[03:29] <screechingcat> sethk, message recieved loud and clear
[03:29] <sethk> bayzider, yes, but in a few minutes.
[03:29] <bayzider> ok i wil lbe wating
[03:31] <Snifouille> hey there :)
[03:31] <Tussius> there's utorrnet for linux?
[03:32] <screechingcat> Tussius, nope. but it runs perfectly under Wine
[03:32] <host`> does linux support netboui?
[03:32] <Tussius> ah, but why not use one the torrents for linux? Don't like them?
[03:32] <jokoon> Hello, I just want to know if there is an equivalent of foobar or winamp for ubuntu ...
[03:33] <Snifouille> Sorry to ask you, but i got problems when trying to install flash player for firefox... It tells me that the architecture x86_64-bits is not supported. Do you where i can find the good player for my platform ?
[03:33] <jokoon> And how make MP3 and AVI files readable
[03:33] <oskude> jokoon: xmms is a little like winamp
[03:33] <screechingcat> jokoon, Amarok, XMMS, Beep
[03:33] <host`> xmms looks like winamp
[03:33] <jad_jay> re hello
[03:33] <jokoon> thanks
[03:34] <host`> it's probably not the best media player though
[03:34] <Tussius> jokoon, Try amarok (I love it. I used to use foobar in windows.). http://amarok.kde.org/
[03:34] <oskude> jokoon: and xmms plays mp3s "out-of-the-box" (iirc)
[03:34] <Snifouille> host`: which player should I use ?
[03:34] <screechingcat> Snifouille, its nothing personal. Adobe just hates 64bit linux users
[03:34] <Dr_willis> I found a JavaWebstart based Media player that was nice.. but lost the url and name. :()
[03:34] <jokoon> okok
[03:34] <jokoon> What about avi files ?
[03:34] <Dr_willis> it was identical under windows/linux which is what i liked
[03:34] <Snifouille> screechingcat: lol
[03:34] <cherubiel> jokoon: mplayer :)
[03:34] <jad_jay> how is ubuntu handle the automounting in gnome? which is the command or the programm which assume all the process?
[03:34] <oskude> !avi > jokoon
[03:35] <screechingcat> jokoon, the default installed Totem will do just fine
[03:35] <Enselic> !printer
[03:35] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:35] <jokoon> I mounted all my ntfs partitions but avi files don't want to play
[03:35] <jokoon> some codc issue
[03:35] <host`> Snifouille, I like mplayer and vlc
[03:35] <bayzider> jokoon : vlc mediaplayer plays every form of media imaginable google it
[03:35] <jokoon> okok
[03:35] <screechingcat> Snifouille, search ubuntuforums.org. there's a guide there on howto get flash installed on 64bit systems
[03:35] <oskude> jokoon: thats cause divx is evil...
[03:35] <host`> both mplayer and vlc will play everything
[03:35] <jokoon> even subtitles ?
[03:35] <host`> from what I've seen
[03:35] <host`> !vlc
[03:35] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:36] <screechingcat> jokoon, subtitles too
[03:36] <host`> !mplayer
[03:36] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:36] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:36] <jokoon> nice \_
[03:36] <Snifouille> host`: I know VLC, but i didn't know that I could use it for playing flash animation on my firefox...
[03:36] <host`> you can get vlc from the "out of the box repositories" and you have to do a little but in synaptic to download mplayer
[03:36] <screechingcat> Snifouille, he was replying to jokoon's question
[03:36] <host`> Snifouille, I don't know if vlc plays flasht hough
[03:37] <jokoon> Thanks everyone for answers :)
[03:37] <Tussius> np :)
[03:38] <Snifouille> oh okay sorry, i'm a little bit lost, (I'm french...)
[03:38] <host`> Snifouille, you asked what play, I thought you were asking the same questions as jokoon, af far as flash for 64, I don't knoqw
[03:38] <aeroSoul> bayzider: might help if you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:38] <Snifouille> screechingcat:  Thanks for your asnwer, I'm gonna search :):)
[03:38] <Tussius> jokoon, you should try this link: http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/hack-attack-top-10-ubuntu-apps-and-tweaks-195437.php
[03:39] <bayzider> aeroSoul: xorg.conf got me into all this mess i delted it and in the procesesof geting it back the dumbass(not you) told me a weird command and crassjed every thing.
[03:39] <bayzider> aerosoul: alos im on a live cd i dont think i could even get to it
[03:39] <cherubiel> bayzider: why don't you copy the xorg.conf from the livecd onto your installation?
[03:40] <jad_jay> how is ubuntu handle the automounting in gnome? which is the command or the programm which assume all the process?
[03:40] <bayzider> chrudiel: will that fix my all problems?
[03:40] <der0b> can you specify ownership during file creation?  I want to create a tar file readable only by the owner and I want to prevent even read access to it
[03:40] <cherubiel> bayzider: sorry i missed tht part out.. whats your specific problem?
[03:41] <jrib> jad_jay: I think gnome-volume-manager handles that
[03:41] <jokoon> Thanks : is the NTFS driver "safe" to use on my partitions ?
[03:41] <jad_jay> is it possible to have the same in debian sarge?
[03:41] <jad_jay> jrib:
[03:41] <Capt_hook> oh my god i cant install it :( i dunno how
[03:41] <Capt_hook> im new bout this thing
[03:41] <jrib> jad_jay: probably, I don't know for sure though
[03:41] <bayzider> cherubiel: when i boot out of the live cd and onto my old install it tells me like my x server or something isnt configured right and i have no graphical interface
[03:41] <mtz> can sameone gimme some help?
[03:41] <jad_jay> jrib: thanks
[03:41] <jrib> !helpme
[03:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:41] <lacin> How Can I use results of a Command i other for exampel i want to rm what start with "n" so : " ls | grep ^n  "  but how can I say rm that uses this?
[03:42] <Capt_hook> i wanna watch video
[03:42] <Capt_hook> pls help me install plugin
[03:42] <cherubiel> bayzider: yeah, this should give you the same effect you get with the live cd environment
[03:42] <screechingcat> sethk : i've done some reading and havent understood that much. but anyways, can u just tell me y my utorrent speed in win is about 25-30kBps while on ubuntu it is 5-10 ?
[03:42] <bayzider> umm ok
[03:42] <Capt_hook> for playing video cd
[03:42] <cherubiel> bayzider: using your livecd
[03:42] <cherubiel> bayzider: mount your rootfs, backup and replace xorg.conf
[03:43] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, do u kno how to open a terminal ?
[03:43] <jrib> lacin: you can pipe to xargs, or just do    command $(other commands), the $() will put the result of "other commands" in front of "command"
[03:43] <Capt_hook> yes screechingcat i know how
[03:43] <cherubiel> bayzider: pm?
[03:44] <CVirus> how can I uninstall Enemey-Territory ?
[03:44] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, ok then open it and type in - sudo apt-get install mplayer vlc
[03:44] <Capt_hook> ok sec
[03:44] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, and you will never have video problems again
[03:45] <Capt_hook> screechingcat can i paste it into ur pm sir the error i got?
[03:45] <Capt_hook> coz maybe flooded the channel
[03:45] <jrib> CVirus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215686
[03:45] <bayzider> cherubiel: are you geting my responces to your pm???
[03:45] <cherubiel> !paste
[03:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:45] <cherubiel> !register
[03:45] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:45] <Stigi`aw> If I write a program in C# how do I compile it for Ubuntu? the compile in Monodevelop makes an .exe file.
[03:45] <cherubiel> bayzider: ^^
[03:45] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, !pastebin
[03:45] <cherubiel> bayzider: you need to be registered to give PMs
[03:46] <bayzider> i am regiterd...
[03:46] <jokoon> isnt c# microsoft ?
[03:46] <Capt_hook> root@capthook:/lib # sudo apt-get install mplayer vlc
[03:46] <Capt_hook> Reading package lists... Done
[03:46] <Capt_hook> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:46] <Capt_hook> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[03:46] <Capt_hook> root@capthook:/lib #
[03:46] <jokoon> .NET etc ?
[03:46] <jrib> ubotu: tell Capt_hook about paste
[03:46] <cherubiel> Stigi`aw: use wine, also look at dotgnu
[03:46] <jrib> Capt_hook: you need to enable multiverse
[03:46] <oskude> !mono > Stigi`aw
[03:46] <jrib> Capt_hook: and don't use sudo if you are root
[03:46] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, ok it looks like u dont have the proper repos
[03:47] <Capt_hook> yes pls help me coz im new bout this OS :(
[03:47] <jrib> ubotu: tell Capt_hook about multiverse
[03:47] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, open up synaptic package manager
[03:47] <pablozzz> hi all
[03:47] <Capt_hook> ok secs
[03:47] <bayzider> cheubiel: i registered
[03:47] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: add multiverse repo
[03:47] <bayzider> and pmed u
[03:47] <CVirus> jrib: Thanks
[03:47] <Capt_hook> where i can find this synaptic package manager
[03:48] <Capt_hook> i mean under the applcations?
[03:48] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, open up sytem > administration > synaptic
[03:48] <jlc> Kernel panic - not syncing: PCI-DMA: high address but no IOMMU
[03:48] <cherubiel> !mplayer
[03:48] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:48] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:48] <jlc> i'm getting that whilst trying to install dapper
[03:48] <jlc> amd64
[03:48] <jlc> 32bit dapper installs fine
[03:48] <cherubiel> multiverse repo Capt_hook
[03:48] <Capt_hook> ok secs
[03:48] <jlc> google turns up already running box's
[03:49] <TheGateKeeper> Capt_hook: under system (on KDE) if you have installed it
[03:49] <meheren> how can i make a debian package?
[03:49] <Stigi`aw> cherubiel, Wine couldn't load my app, problems with an DLL
[03:49] <jrib> meheren: checkinstall if it is just for yourself should be good enough, otherwise for the "real" way, checkout the packaging tutorial on help.ubuntu.com
[03:50] <Tussius> hey all
[03:50] <Capt_hook> KDE desktop environment?
[03:50] <jrib> ubotu: tell meheren about checkinstall
[03:50] <Tussius> I'm having a hard time getting my gfx-cards 3d accel to work
[03:50] <meheren> ok thx
[03:50] <Tussius> I've followed the instructions in the wiki as well as in the faq
[03:50] <screechingcat> how do i convert a tarball into an RPM ?
[03:51] <Capt_hook> screechingcat im on synaptic now what shud i do next?
[03:51] <oskude> screechingcat: ask red hat...
[03:51] <mjr> screechingcat, very nontrivially
[03:51] <cherubiel> screechingcat: what??
[03:51] <screechingcat> oskude, its coz then i can convert that into a deb and manage all my sutom installed (non-repo) sofware from apt-get
[03:51] <jlc> why would you turn a tarball into a rpm?
[03:52] <oskude> screechingcat: that sound like a very very bad idea...
[03:52] <kmu> screechingcat, a tarball is just a compressed bunch of files. RPM is an installer file
[03:52] <kmu> much different
[03:53] <screechingcat> kmu, but there are some guides out there which i've seen (but not understood)
[03:53] <Nem1> Is it possible to install rpm files on linux (ed)ubuntu?
[03:53] <cherubiel> screechingcat: rpms are mostly compiled sources, tarballs typically gives source files
[03:53] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, now hit settings > repositories
[03:53] <jrib> screechingcat: why would you do src -> rpm -> deb instead of src -> deb ?
[03:53] <cherubiel> Nem1: use alien to convert to .deb or use the rpm utitlity to isntll the rpm
[03:54] <screechingcat> jrib, coz i dont kno how to src > deb. i always fail no matter what
[03:54] <Nem1> oh thx cherubiel
[03:54] <jrib> Nem1: it's possible but not recommended, search for an ubuntu deb first
[03:54] <Enselic> Exactly what does it mean for Ubuntu to detect a printer automatically? On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters it says that my printer (Epson Stylus Color 640) should be autodetected, but it neither gets autodetected nor works
[03:54] <Enselic> is there something I don't know?
[03:54] <jlc> Kernel panic - not syncing: PCI-DMA: high address but no IOMMU
[03:54] <selinuxium> screechingcat: Hi there, what are you trying to achieve?
[03:54] <jlc> anyone seen that
[03:54] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, done ?
[03:54] <jrib> ubotu: tell screechingcat about checkinstall
[03:54] <Capt_hook> secs
[03:55] <Enselic> ubotu: tell enselic about test
[03:55] <screechingcat> jrib, ive failed with checkinstall too. ( i tried flock)
[03:55] <Capt_hook> screechingcat done
[03:55] <cherubiel> jlc: during install or ?amd64?
[03:55] <selinuxium> Nem1: sudo apt-get install alien    then      alien <package>.rpm
[03:55] <jlc> during install on amd64, core 2 duo +dapper
[03:55] <screechingcat> selinuxium, trying to get a source tarball to install onto my system
[03:56] <TmWrk_Quil> hello, does anyone here use dyndns.org on their ubuntu box - i could use a hand setting it up properly
[03:56] <boink> I compiled mplayer yesterday, it's no problem on ubuntu
[03:56] <viller> i want to play .mid files. Is there any codec I need?
[03:56] <Enselic> Does anyone here happen to have a Epson Stylus Color 640?
[03:56] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, now just tick everything you see and hit close
[03:56] <selinuxium> screechingcat: you need to compile it then. :)
[03:56] <Dr_willis> !find midi
[03:56] <jrib> screechingcat: maybe try something simpler first, follow the compiling wiki
[03:56] <ubotu> Found: abcmidi, abcmidi-yaps, libmidi-perl, libportmidi-dev, libportmidi0 (and 8 others)
[03:56] <selinuxium> !compile
[03:56] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:56] <selinuxium> screechingcat: ^^^
[03:56] <screechingcat> selinuxium, i know. but i have very bad luck with that. i've never come out on the right side
[03:56] <boink> !dyndns
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dyndns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <boink> ddclient - Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.org
[03:57] <cherubiel> jlc: known issue, http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/29/212
[03:57] <selinuxium> In what sense?
[03:57] <boink> you could try that to update your dyndns.org stuff
[03:57] <Capt_hook> screechingcat tick?
[03:57] <screechingcat> selinuxium, i always end up with some sort of gibberish error
[03:57] <selinuxium> screechingcat: What are you trying to compile?
[03:58] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, can u see the checkboxes on the left ? check them
[03:58] <boink> what's the error?
[03:58] <CVirus> isnt there a way to download partial pieces of a torrent ?
[03:58] <Capt_hook> u mean all screechingcat ?
[03:58] <boink> maybe you need to install build-essential
[03:58] <screechingcat> selinuxium, umm . . . right now flock
[03:58] <jlc> cherubiel, I've seen that, I don't have IOMMU option in my bios, that I can see
[03:58] <screechingcat> boink, i have it
[03:58] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, yes all
[03:58] <Capt_hook> screechingcat im in software sources
[03:58] <Capt_hook> theres no box on left side
[03:59] <Danny> Hi again... i am havin problems with edgy & totem playback. w32codecs and gstreamer0.10-pitfdll installed. gst-inspect doesn't show the codecs. can anyone help,please?
[03:59] <Terminus> CVirus: yes there is, at least azureus lets you choose which file to download. other clients might not have the same feature.
[03:59] <boink> using mplayer .. works great
[03:59] <selinuxium> screechingcat:  put the failure into paste bin..
[03:59] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, can u see something called installation media ?
[03:59] <screechingcat> selinuxium, hold on
[04:00] <selinuxium> screechingcat: np
[04:00] <Capt_hook> none
[04:00] <Capt_hook> its on software sources
[04:00] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: dude, edit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[04:00] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: uncomment the lines for multiverse, do an apt-get update
[04:00] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: and then a apt-get isntall mplayer
[04:00] <screechingcat> ok Capt_hook open terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:01] <Capt_hook> ok secs
[04:01] <Danny> since i guess everyone should have this prob under edgy, it would be nice to solve this...
[04:01] <Alakazamz0r> what problem.
[04:01] <screechingcat> boink, yes mplayer is heaven. i know
[04:01] <Alakazamz0r> oh
[04:01] <Danny> totem & avi playback
[04:02] <selinuxium> Danny: edgy problems at #ubuntu+1
[04:02] <Capt_hook> what i should edit here screechingcat and cherubiel
[04:02] <screechingcat> Danny, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:02] <Danny> thanks selinuxium
[04:02] <osfameron> I could never get mplayer to do anything much apart from crash my machine :-)
[04:02] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: paste your sources.lst in a pastebin, i'll modify it for you
[04:02] <TmWrk_Quil> hi, i am using ubuntu server and reading the docs here to setup dyndns service for my machine - when i do sudo apt-get install ipcheck it tells me that it cannot find the package ipcheck - is there another way?
[04:02] <mjr> avi playback problems usually reduce to:
[04:02] <mjr> !restrictedformats
[04:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:02] <TmWrk_Quil> the docs i am referring to are: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_assign_Hostname_to_local_machine_with_dynamic_IP_using_free_DynDNS_service
[04:02] <Danny> totem-xine is not in edgy anymore
[04:02] <afief> How would you guys go about copying the MBR from one HDD to another?
[04:02] <Capt_hook> ok secs
[04:02] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, wherever there is a link, remove the # symbol
[04:02] <TmWrk_Quil> please msg me if you can help with this situation
[04:02] <screechingcat> Danny, really ?
[04:03] <Riot777> anyone maybe know something to convert *.chm file to *.pdf file format ?
[04:03] <cherubiel> TmWrk_Quil: enable universe repo
[04:03] <Danny> jupp
[04:03] <Danny> search the repos
[04:03] <screechingcat> Riot777, whats a .chm ?
[04:03] <Danny> its gxine now
[04:03] <Riot777> it's some microsoftish ebook format
[04:03] <screechingcat> Danny, damn that sucks to the core. then ur better off with mplayer
[04:04] <Danny> i guess so...
[04:04] <cherubiel> mplayer! yeah!
[04:04] <Capt_hook> screechingcat done i pasted
[04:04] <screechingcat> link ?
[04:04] <cherubiel> !paste
[04:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:04] <selinuxium> screechingcat: chm is a windows help document i believe
[04:04] <Danny> mplayer never let me down either, but i'd preferedly use totem ...
[04:04] <cherubiel> selinuxium: use xchm
[04:04] <Capt_hook> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26431/
[04:05] <cherubiel> bayzider: howdy?
[04:05] <bayzider> IT WORKED weee hooo
[04:05] <cherubiel> beerware!
[04:05] <cherubiel> :P
[04:05] <selinuxium> Danny: np
[04:05] <bayzider> cherubiel : thanks
[04:05] <rfboehme> X is freezing my new 64-bit machine on bootup (the last message that I get is a message about GDM, at the login screen).
[04:05] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: replace  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[04:05] <cherubiel>  with  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[04:05] <cherubiel>  multiverse
[04:05] <cherubiel> append multiverse
[04:05] <cherubiel> then save the file
[04:05] <cherubiel> do an apt-get updaate
[04:06] <cherubiel> update*
[04:06] <Capt_hook> secs
[04:06] <screechingcat> Capt_hook, wow !!! you still using Hoary ?
[04:06] <cherubiel> heh :(
[04:06] <Capt_hook> im newbies
[04:06] <Capt_hook> hehe
[04:06] <Capt_hook> :)
[04:06] <TmWrk_Quil> cherubiel: i'm not so sure i understand; what is "enable universal repo"
[04:06] <boink> hoary is old. update to dapper
[04:06] <TmWrk_Quil> cherubiel: it sounds like someone coming after my car
[04:07] <TmWrk_Quil> i have dapper
[04:07] <cherubiel> TmWrk_Quil: you are loggin in from your car?? :O :)
[04:07] <boink> oh
[04:07] <phaedrus44> bah..
[04:07] <kmaynard> !repo
[04:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:07] <phaedrus44> broadcom wireless
[04:07] <selinuxium> rfboehme: DId this always happen or has it become apparent?
[04:07] <cherubiel> TmWrk_Quil: dude, edit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[04:07] <bayzider> cherubiel: can you help me in doing this "comment or delete the entries in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which are related to wacom. This is installed randomly, but if you haven't got a wacom it isn't needed at all"
[04:07] <TmWrk_Quil> cherubiel: well not exactly; but i could REALLY use a hand setting ithis up
[04:07] <cherubiel> :)
[04:07] <cherubiel> sure
[04:07] <kmaynard> TmWrk_Quil, i can help
[04:07] <selinuxium> screechingcat: Where's that paste! :)
[04:07] <kmaynard> TmWrk_Quil, are you using a desktop?
[04:08] <TmWrk_Quil> kmaynard: actually now i've got it to where i'm ssh'd in from my win32 laptop
[04:08] <cherubiel> bayzider: paste the xorg.conf file
[04:08] <screechingcat> selinuxium, i delted the tarball (i gave up after an hour) so im downloadin it agian
[04:08] <TmWrk_Quil> kmaynard: can you message me re: this, the chan can sometimes get cluttered
[04:08] <kmaynard> TmWrk_Quil, ok.  sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:08] <screechingcat> selinuxium, ok here it is - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26432/
[04:08] <TmWrk_Quil> kmaynard: rgr
[04:08] <selinuxium> screechingcat: np I will be about for a few hours.. Blimey that was quick!
[04:08] <kmaynard> TmWrk_Quil, im there
[04:09] <black_13> are there issues in building a kernel with a lesser version number?
[04:09] <screechingcat> selinuxium, nah. the download took a long time. u just aasked when it had completed
[04:09] <selinuxium> screechingcat: ./configure   you have ./confidure
[04:09] <Capt_hook> cherubiel theres no diffrence if i change those things
[04:09] <Capt_hook> its the same http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[04:09] <Capt_hook> in old
[04:10] <Capt_hook> what line should i put there?
[04:10] <screechingcat> selinuxium, dosent matter. there is no configure script
[04:10] <screechingcat> or something like that
[04:10] <cherubiel> universe multiverse
[04:10] <cherubiel> append multiverse
[04:10] <black_13> i am using a machine with kernel 2.6.15 but i need build a specially patched kernel that is version of 2.6.10
[04:10] <black_13> would this matter
[04:10] <screechingcat> selinuxium, bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[04:10] <selinuxium> screechingcat: give the download url... :)
[04:10] <Capt_hook> i will add this line? universe multiverse
[04:10] <cherubiel> black_13: ofcourse it wold matter, the patch is built against that version
[04:11] <TmWrk_Quil> kmaynard: can you see my msgs?
[04:11] <kmaynard> no
[04:11] <TmWrk_Quil> kmaynard: i can see you, but you can't read me for some reason
[04:11] <screechingcat> its masked wierdly. go to http://www.flock.com/get-ready-to-flock? and it should start automatically
[04:11] <black_13> cherubiel could y8ou explain a bit more?
[04:11] <kmaynard> k
[04:11] <TmWrk_Quil> kmaynard: weird, maybe you are filtering me
[04:11] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: append mutiverse
[04:11] <kmaynard> not on purpose
[04:11] <TmWrk_Quil> i kno
[04:11] <kmaynard> you use im?
[04:11] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: edit that line, append multiverse
[04:12] <TmWrk_Quil> msn
[04:12] <kmaynard> gah
[04:12] <TmWrk_Quil> jtiner@gmail.com :P
[04:12] <Capt_hook> cherubiel ok so il change the 2lines?
[04:12] <cherubiel> yes
[04:12] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: then do a apt-get update
[04:12] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: and then, apt-get install mplayer
[04:12] <Capt_hook> ok secs
[04:12] <screechingcat> selinuxium, so whats the verdict guv'nor ?
[04:13] <kmaynard> TmWrk_Quil, lemme try msn in gaim...it was crashing a while back
[04:13] <selinuxium> screechingcat: can you give me the download url you are using please. :)
[04:13] <TmWrk_Quil> if it doesn't work let me know
[04:13] <arepie> hello, i just installed fglrx driver, it seems to be no direct randering + the OpenGL is still mesa, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26434/
[04:13] <selinuxium> screechingcat: then I can look and see...
[04:13] <kmaynard> frell, it crashed
[04:13] <kmaynard> stupid internets
[04:13] <screechingcat> selinuxium, i already did. ok here it is again "its masked wierdly. go to http://www.flock.com/get-ready-to-flock? and it should start automatically"
[04:14] <screechingcat> kmaynard, lol
[04:14] <cd32fan> hello
[04:14] <Capt_hook> cherubiel its error
[04:14] <selinuxium> screechingcat: have you done this?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingFlock
[04:14] <Capt_hook> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/append/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 146.137.96.7 80] 
[04:14] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: whats the error?
[04:15] <kane77> hi. I installed apache2 & php5... and I dont quite understand: when I open adress in form of http://localhost/ it should run a default page (index.html) but instead it only opens a directory view and there is one directory (apache2-default/) when I click on that it opens the site... where do I specify the default directory for www??
[04:15] <Capt_hook> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu append multiverse
[04:15] <Capt_hook> thats the line i edit
[04:15] <bayzider> !paste
[04:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:15] <cherubiel> capt_hook: NO!! deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe multiverse
[04:15] <Capt_hook> ok secs
[04:16] <selinuxium> kane77: Hi there, the route is in /var/www
[04:16] <screechingcat> selinuxium, i havent. what i wanted to do was make it manageable thru apt-get. but thanks anyways. i will use this
[04:17] <Capt_hook> cherubiel error again
[04:17] <Capt_hook> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/universe/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 146.137.96.7 80] 
[04:18] <TmWrk_Quil> kmaynard: in that chan now
[04:18] <TmWrk_Quil> kmaynard: and i have typed to you
[04:18] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: hmmm.. do one thing, replicate that line, substitute multiverse for universe
[04:19] <kane77> selinuxium, thanx second question though... opening page in form of localhost/something.php displays the page, but opening it as 127.0.0.1 only opens a dialog for saving that file... why?
[04:19] <Capt_hook> what line?
[04:19] <Capt_hook> cherubiel what line shud i edit?
[04:20] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: give me the pastebin link again, i'll modify that and give you
[04:20] <Capt_hook> ok secs
[04:20] <cd32fan> where can i find the Linux Headers for Ubuntu?
[04:20] <Capt_hook> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26431/
[04:20] <Capt_hook> that one
[04:21] <cd32fan> http://havox.no.sapo.pt/sagem.html
[04:21] <selinuxium> screechingcat: no worries. If you really want it done take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New?action=show&redirect=MOTUNewSoftware
[04:21] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26437/
[04:21] <sethk> cd32fan, there is a package for the headers.  search in synaptic for the version string of your kernel
[04:21] <cd32fan> im trying to do an install and i need the Headers
[04:21] <Capt_hook> ok secs
[04:22] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: backup your old sources.lst and modify it
[04:22] <screechingcat> selinuxium, thanks for the help mate
[04:22] <cd32fan> if anyone help,i would appreciate it
[04:22] <unfknblvbl> what linux DE is this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre2/46287-2.jpg
[04:22] <selinuxium> kane77: sorry are you saying that localhost provides the serverside code but 127.0.0.1 doesn't?
[04:22] <selinuxium> screechingcat: np :)
[04:22] <cherubiel> cd32fan: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[04:22] <arepie> hello, i just installed fglrx driver, it seems to be no direct randering + the OpenGL is still mesa, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26434/
[04:23] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: don't forget an apt-get update
[04:23] <Ruffles> arepie, have you already got XGL up and runnin'?
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> unfknblvbl, i see firefox and aterm .. should i see something else ?
[04:23] <cd32fan> cherubiel:where do i type that?
[04:24] <cherubiel> cd32fan: open a terminal and type that
[04:24] <cherubiel> sudo apt-get ...
[04:24] <cd32fan> dont i have to download those files or something?
[04:24] <arepie> Ruffles: what do you mean?
[04:24] <unfknblvbl> wickedpuppy: i dunno >.,
[04:24] <unfknblvbl> >.<
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> cd32fan, apt-get will download + install for you ...
[04:24] <Ruffles> arepie, u gotta get XGL runnin' then beryl
[04:24] <Capt_hook> ok its now updating
[04:24] <cd32fan> but i dont have an internet connection on Ubuntu
[04:25] <cd32fan> im using Vmware
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> unfknblvbl, there is no ide there .. just modified firefox and aterm
[04:25] <arepie> Ruffles: would you guide me? if im not mistaken, i can't install XGL because, i don't have direct randering..
[04:25] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: good lucj
[04:25] <cherubiel> luck*
[04:25] <cd32fan> im trying to install some new Modem Modules so that i can install internet on Ubuntu
[04:25] <Capt_hook> :)
[04:25] <selinuxium> cd32fan: have you got internet on the host machine?
[04:25] <cd32fan> yes
[04:25] <Capt_hook> wait a sec dont leave me hang lol
[04:25] <cherubiel> cd32fan: how are you connected then?
[04:25] <unfknblvbl> wickedpuppy: i found out its openbox
[04:25] <Ruffles> arepie, well.. i can try at least.. i've never installed XGL in here
[04:25] <cd32fan> but my modem isnt recognized by Ubuntu
[04:25] <Falstius> cd32fan: you didn't set up vmware to give you a network bridge?
[04:25] <Ruffles> !xgl
[04:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> unfknblvbl, still no IDE ..
[04:25] <cd32fan> i did
[04:26] <cd32fan> but it doesnt work
[04:26] <Ruffles> arepie, Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:26] <unfknblvbl> wickedpuppy: call me n00by but i got no idea what the IDE thingy is your on about
[04:26] <Ruffles> arepie, follow this howto step by step please
[04:26] <arepie> ok
[04:26] <Falstius> you're running vmware under windows?
[04:26] <cd32fan> me?
[04:26] <Falstius> c32fan, you're running vmware under windows?
[04:27] <arepie> Ruffles: did you mean also, i installed the driver correcly?
[04:27] <cd32fan> Falstius:yes
[04:27] <arepie> Ruffles: have you check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26434/
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> unfknblvbl, my mistake .. i saw IDE instead of DE , IDE = Code Editor like VS.NET
[04:27] <cd32fan> i chose bridge
[04:27] <unfknblvbl> oh
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> unfknblvbl, my apology
[04:27] <cd32fan> but for some reason Ubuntu doesnt use my internet connection
[04:28] <yacek19> hi
[04:28] <unfknblvbl> thats okay
[04:28] <unfknblvbl> how do you change window managers ?
[04:28] <Capt_hook> cherubiel whats this error
[04:28] <cherubiel> unfknblvbl: from your display manager, at login prompt
[04:28] <Capt_hook> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:28] <Capt_hook> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:28] <Falstius> cd32fan, did you check out the networking in ubuntu? System->administration->networking
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> unfknblvbl, in login screen ... there is a menu called session ... change it
[04:28] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: do a sudo apt-get install
[04:28] <cherubiel> append sudo, it needs root perms
[04:28] <Capt_hook> ok
[04:28] <CromagDK> might be synaptics ? :)
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> Capt_hook, is there synaptic ?
[04:29] <Ruffles> arepie, well.. i'm unsure.. it seems to be workin' fine
[04:29] <selinuxium> Capt_hook: Please don't paste in the channel! use the paste bin, it is what it is there for!  :)
[04:29] <cd32fan> Falstius:yes,its set to Ethernet 0
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> i happen to agree with CromagDK
[04:29] <yacek19> I have some problem with external storage devices. I have many external storage devices, that are recognized as /dev/sda1, how to change fstab to use specific options for each device
[04:29] <gandolfthewizard> hi all
[04:29] <Ruffles> arepie, got no error message so far
[04:29] <unfknblvbl> wickedpuppy thankyou
[04:29] <cherubiel> yacek19: add entries in /etc/fstab
[04:29] <gandolfthewizard> looking for help with java plug-in
[04:29] <selinuxium> Capt_hook: You get that errot when you already have a synaptic / Package manager opemn
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> nah .. i just made up my mistake :P
[04:29] <yacek19> but how??
[04:29] <omar> H guys, I am trying to mount a folder from other kubuntu, I don't have any trouble with windows, I use : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.34/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o urd=omar, but it's not working  for another linux, what should I change in the line
[04:29] <selinuxium> hi gandolfthewizard
[04:29] <yacek19> everything points to /dev/sda1
[04:30] <selinuxium> gandolfthewizard: what is the problem
[04:30] <Capt_hook> error occurd
[04:30] <Capt_hook> :(
[04:30] <cherubiel> yacek19: do you have seperate partitions or different drives?
[04:30] <Falstius> cd32fan, I've never set up vmware in windows so I don't really know what it is supposed to look like .. it works just fine for me under linux though.  On the ubuntu side it should Just Work(tm)
[04:30] <yacek19> different drives
[04:30] <gandolfthewizard> i have been trying to install the plug-in for fire fox but it either can't find the package
[04:30] <cherubiel> yacek19: sda, sbd and so on
[04:30] <cherubiel> sdb*
[04:30] <yacek19> no sda1 only
[04:30] <yacek19> pendrive, and external drive
[04:30] <cherubiel> check sdb1
[04:30] <gandolfthewizard> i have been trying to install the java plug-in for the last 3 days
[04:31] <yacek19> one time i connect pendrive and there is /dev/sda1
[04:31] <selinuxium> cd32fan: you need to give the ubuntu VM a virtual nat'd ethercard
[04:31] <yacek19> when I disconnect pendrive there is no /dev/sda1
[04:31] <selinuxium> gandolfthewizard: which one? what os?
[04:31] <yacek19> then I connect hard drive and I again have /dev/sda
[04:31] <gandolfthewizard> ubuntu
[04:31] <yacek19> */dev/sda1
[04:31] <selinuxium> gandolfthewizard: dapper?
[04:31] <gandolfthewizard> yes
[04:31] <cherubiel> yacek19: yes, so whats the problem?
[04:32] <cd32fan> selinuxium:but what are the settings on the Ubuntu network?
[04:32] <TmWrk_Quil> i think kmaynard ditched for a bit
[04:32] <glitch-> sup cherubiel
[04:32] <cherubiel> yacek19: are you saying you want sdb1 for the 2nd drive all the time???
[04:32] <yacek19> I would like to have different options in fstab for each drive\
[04:32] <cherubiel> glitch-: yo, wassap dude?
[04:32] <yacek19> maybe it is the solution
[04:32] <idefix> do you have to read the Linux Phrasebook from a-z before you start using linux?
[04:32] <TmWrk_Quil> cherubiel: what was all that universe stuff you were talking about earlier?
[04:32] <cd32fan> the Vmware settings are nat,and the Ubuntu are suposed to be Ethernet,right?
[04:32] <cherubiel> TmWrk_Quil: dude, paste your sources.lst in a pastebin, i'll modify that for ya
[04:33] <cd32fan> btw i dont use a router
[04:33] <segfault_> yacek19, iirc u need custom udev rules for that, if u want the drive seen as a particular dev node when connected
[04:33] <selinuxium> gandolfthewizard: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[04:33] <glitch-> cherubiel:not much, just playing travian. How about yourself?
[04:33] <TmWrk_Quil> cherubiel: well i'm a little leary of modifying them becausei want to make sure that i'm getting the official stable stuff
[04:33] <Capt_hook> cherubiel heres the error again :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26441/
[04:33] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: synaptic running too?
[04:33] <TmWrk_Quil> cherubiel: besides these docs come straight out of the ubuntu how to guide..they should work
[04:33] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: close synpatic
[04:33] <cd32fan> the VMware Nat settings are for ppl who use a router,right?
[04:33] <Capt_hook> ok
[04:34] <cherubiel> TmWrk_Quil: all we will do is add a new repo
[04:34] <cherubiel> TmWrk_Quil: the software you're looking for lies in the universe repo
[04:34] <cherubiel> TmWrk_Quil: you can't isntall it unless you add that repo and update you indexes
[04:34] <gandolfthewizard> this is what i get everytime E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[04:34] <cherubiel> TmWrk_Quil: atlest not using apt
[04:35] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizard: you neeed the multiverse repo
[04:35] <gandolfthewizard> i have them all
[04:35] <gandolfthewizard> i enabled the all
[04:35] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizard: did you do an apt-get update ?
[04:35] <gandolfthewizard> yes
[04:35] <Capt_hook> cherubiel its no installation check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26443/
[04:35] <selinuxium> gandolfthewizard: do an   apt-cache search sun-java5
[04:35] <cd32fan> thanks
[04:36] <cherubiel> apt-get install mplayer-586 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6.2
[04:36] <cherubiel> , Capt_hook
[04:36] <Capt_hook> cherubiel is this one shud i install? mplayer-386 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6.2
[04:36] <Capt_hook> ok ok
[04:36] <Capt_hook> secs
[04:36] <gandolfthewizard> nothing happens
[04:36] <omar> H guys, I am trying to mount a folder from other kubuntu, I don't have any trouble with windows, I use : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.34/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o urd=omar, but it's not working  for another linux, what should I change in the line
[04:36] <wickedly_cool> man i had this f'ed up dream last night about ufo's
[04:37] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizard: so you'etrying apt-get install sun-java5-jre ?
[04:37] <gandolfthewizard> yes
[04:37] <wickedly_cool> actually i had the same dreams twice
[04:37] <selinuxium> gandolfthewizard: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:37] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizard: and you're on dapper?
[04:37] <segfault_> omar, man mount
[04:37] <gandolfthewizard> permission denied
[04:37] <selinuxium> cherubiel: there must be something wrong with his repos...
[04:37] <gandolfthewizard> yes i am on dapper
[04:37] <cherubiel> true..
[04:38] <selinuxium> gandolfthewizard: sudo
[04:38] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizard: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/sun-java5-jre
[04:38] <cherubiel> its there in dapper
[04:38] <cherubiel> multiverse repo
[04:38] <Capt_hook> cherubiel error again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26445/
[04:38] <Capt_hook> :(
[04:38] <host`> anyone know how to capture screenshots in linux?
[04:38] <gandolfthewizard> i have read that and it i have not been able to get it
[04:38] <host`> mplayer should do it and I'm pretty sure vlc do it
[04:38] <cherubiel> apt-get install mplayer-586 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6.2
[04:38] <defrysk> host`, print-screen button in gnome
[04:38] <cherubiel> Capt_hook!!!!
[04:39] <defrysk> apt-print-screen for the active window
[04:39] <Capt_hook> yes
[04:39] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: sudo apt-get install mplayer-586 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6.2
[04:39] <gandolfthewizard> sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[04:39] <Capt_hook> ok secs
[04:39] <defrysk> gandolfthewizard, you must be new to linux :D
[04:40] <gandolfthewizard> yes i am
[04:40] <gandolfthewizard> been trying to tell people that
[04:40] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizard: cat /etc/apt/sources.lst
[04:40] <Capt_hook> cherubiel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26446/
[04:40] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizard: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[04:40] <defrysk> ganadist, your last statemt clearly showed that
[04:40] <defrysk> statement
[04:40] <selinuxium> gandolfthewizard:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:41] <selinuxium> gandolfthewizard: no worries, we are here to help :)
[04:41] <jesse__> hi I was trying to (smart) update hoary to breezy with synaptic, downloaded everything (5 hours) and then got interrupted and now synaptic wants to downlad the 1075 packages again! how do I make synaptic realize that the packages are there?
[04:41] <meheren> what is the command to copy file x to folder y?
[04:41] <Capt_hook> cherubiel have u seen the error?
[04:41] <defrysk> meheren, cp /path/to/x /path/to/y
[04:41] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: sudo apt-get install mplayer-586
[04:41] <meheren> hmm
[04:42] <Capt_hook> k
[04:42] <defrysk> meheren, cp /path/to/x/file /path/to/y/file even :)
[04:42] <Capt_hook> now its working
[04:42] <Capt_hook> hehe
[04:42] <Capt_hook> secs
[04:42] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: treat treat!!
[04:42] <cherubiel> drinks for all in the house!
[04:43] <cherubiel> ;)
[04:43] <Capt_hook> haha sure thing lol after this hehe
[04:43] <TmWrk_Quil> cherubiel: ok i'm game
[04:43] <meheren> ah ok i just mistyed the file name:p
[04:43] <meheren> heh
[04:43] <cherubiel> :P
[04:43] <TmWrk_Quil> cherubiel: but by doing this i wont be screwing anything up right?
[04:43] <cherubiel> TmWrk_Quil: no
[04:43] <omar> H guys, I am trying to mount a folder from other kubuntu, I don't have any trouble with windows, I use : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.34/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o urd=omar, but it's not working  for another linux, what should I change in the line
[04:45] <cherubiel> guys, does regexps in apt-get work for ya all?? i can seem to run apt-get install sun-java*
[04:46] <segfault_> cherubiel, yea aot-get install java-sun* works here
[04:46] <joris> Hi can i ask a question?
[04:47] <cherubiel> !ask
[04:47] <segfault_> !ask
[04:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:47] <cherubiel> segfault_: :P
[04:47] <segfault_> ;)
[04:47] <joris> sorry... I want to enable dead keys but cant find it in the avalaible packages...im sure it used to be there
[04:48] <TheGateKeeper> joris: be a bit pointless having the channel if you couldn't
[04:48] <joris> ok ok
[04:48] <dr34mc0d3r> my mail is collecting in "Maildir/new" but when i type "mail" - it always says "No Mail for USER" - how can i fix this?
[04:48] <joris> i did prefernces-> keyboard lay out
[04:49] <Byan> how do I set up phpbb?
[04:49] <Byan> I installed the package, but I can't seem to find anything telling me where to go from here
[04:50] <triplc> hi all
[04:50] <kmaynard> Byan, you have apache installed?
[04:50] <Stigi`aw> Is there a Linux plugin for Firefox for the standard AVI player?
[04:50] <Byan> kmaynard: yeah, and php and mysql
[04:50] <kmaynard> is there a man page for phpbb?
[04:51] <unfknblvbl> how do i know if my processor is 686 or not ?
[04:51] <jesse__> hi folks, where does synaptic (or apt?) store downloaded, uninstalled packages? (hoary)
[04:51] <kmaynard> unfknblvbl, uname -a
[04:51] <Byan> kmaynard: no, I tried that
[04:52] <kmaynard> unfknblvbl, my bad ....  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:52] <cherubiel> unfknblvbl: /proc/cpuinfo
[04:52] <joris> i want to enable  English uk international (dead keys) as keyboard preferences but it is not there any idea how to get it?
[04:52] <segfault_> jesse__, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:52] <richardg62> bonjour
[04:52] <segfault_> jesse__, all downloaded pkgs are stored there installed and uninstalled
[04:53] <kmaynard> !phpbb
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpbb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <cherubiel> !fr
[04:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:53] <jesse__> thanks segfault, is there any way to direct synaptic there?
[04:53] <kmaynard> Byan, did you install it from apt?
[04:53] <unfknblvbl> thankyou guys
[04:53] <Capt_hook> cherubiel theres some error upon loading the mplayer
[04:53] <Byan> kmaynard: yeah
[04:53] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: like what?
[04:53] <segfault_> jesse__, that is the default loc, synaptic/apt/dpkg should all use it by default
[04:54] <Capt_hook> its says new face failed maybe the font path is wrong pls supply the text font file ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf
[04:54] <Capt_hook> cherubiel
[04:55] <jake> hello, I am probably in the wrong place but I am looking for a site to dl amd64 kernel sources
[04:55] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[04:55] <joris> so i guess no-one can help me out?
[04:55] <boink> maybe not now
[04:55] <Capt_hook> ok secs
[04:55] <boink> you could get the kernel sources from the apt-get
[04:55] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[04:55] <joris> ok
[04:56] <joris> i will post in the forums...
[04:56] <jake> boink, what about in tar.bz2?
[04:56] <cherubiel> joris: whats the problem, tell us too dude :)
[04:56] <omar> H guys, I am trying to mount a folder from other kubuntu, I don't have any trouble with windows, I use : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.34/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o urd=omar, but it's not working  for another linux, what should I change in the line
[04:56] <kmaynard> Byan, the ubuntu page didnt load, but here's a list of files that are installed with phpbb2. it should help you some: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=phpbb2&version=unstable&arch=all
[04:57] <Byan> kmaynard: I figured it out
[04:57] <joris> i want to enable dead keys
[04:57] <Byan> kmaynard: I have to install a package called phpbb2-conf-mysql
[04:57] <Byan> as well
[04:57] <Byan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhpBB2
[04:58] <dack> anyone willing to help me with xorg? for some reason it decided today that it wont start and i can't figure out why. :(
[04:58] <Capt_hook> wooohoooooo thanks a lot cherubiel
[04:58] <cherubiel> Capt_hook: about the beer?
[04:58] <kmaynard> Byan, coolio
[04:58] <cherubiel> dack: more info please
[04:58] <Capt_hook> yeah sure
[04:58] <Capt_hook> heheheheh
[04:59] <berent> why does mplayer not open on dapper
[04:59] <berent> any takers
[05:00] <cherubiel> berent: not open?
[05:00] <Managu> berent: mplayer runs fine for me on dapper
[05:00] <cherubiel> means??
[05:00] <berent> its gives out some error
[05:00] <cherubiel> berent: like?
[05:00] <berent> error window disappears quickly
[05:00] <sooki> alright, more sound issues :P when i hit the logon screen, it'll play the drum sound(edgy) but no sounds when i actually log in, cedega and a game using oss will play sounds just fine, last time i remember having sound was when i was watching something in videolan, then came back to the computer about an hour later and realized i had no sound
[05:00] <dack> cherubiel: it's a 2 weeks old dapper installation. i didn't install, update nor change anything before this happened. today the computer booted just fine, but about an hour ago while i was surfing away with firefox, xorg refused to start new programs so i decided to reboot. during next reboot i was greeted with shell prompt...
[05:01] <bombero> hi friends
[05:01] <mahx> hello
[05:01] <Razerious> A quick question. When I try to start the device manager it immediately quits. Anyone know why this is happening?
[05:01] <cherubiel> dack: i would start with /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:01] <arepie_> !xgl
[05:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:02] <mahx> how can i enable auto reconnect ppp?
[05:02] <dack> cherubiel: the most recent error in that log is "fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'"
[05:02] <Managu> berent: you might try running mplayer (or gmplayer) from a terminal window; that should let you look at any output it's giving you
[05:02] <omar> hey guys please danny500 look I have two machines here, both with kubuntu , those are connected to my modem, so they are in the network, the Ip of the other one is 192.168.1.34, I want to share one folde
[05:02] <cherubiel> dack: paste your xorg.conf
[05:03] <bombero> have problem with kde (6.06), kde always try to restore old session, and start no needet programs, how can i supress it ?
[05:03] <dack> cherubiel: Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!
[05:03] <dack> Fatal server error:
[05:03] <dack> could not open default font 'fixed'
[05:03] <berent> but it needs a location also Managu
[05:03] <cherubiel> dack: thats not a problem
[05:03] <cherubiel> dack: paste xorg.conf
[05:03] <Managu> berent: A location?  Like a file to play?  Well, yes.
[05:03] <boink> damm, no video output from mplayer. that sux
[05:03] <cherubiel> dack: paste the log and the conf file contents
[05:03] <boink> the audio is working just fine. but no video output
[05:04] <berent> Managu : it says seek failed
[05:04] <dack> cherubiel: here on this channel? they're alfully long...
[05:05] <Managu> berent: try a different file
[05:05] <cherubiel> !paste
[05:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:05] <cherubiel> dack: ^^
[05:05] <berent> Managu: vlc says read failed
[05:05] <Managu> berent: Sounds like a mangled file to me
[05:05] <berent> Managu : totem says check the location
[05:05] <CBSTXBill> Hi all
[05:05] <berent> ok lemme try another
[05:05] <arepie_> !xgl
[05:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:06] <dack> cherubiel: now that i started looking at the xorg.conf, there's something wrong with the font paths
[05:06] <CBSTXBill> anyone with information about Groups, please let me know... is there a paste somewhere?
[05:06] <dack> cherubiel: any idea what might have tampered with these? firefox and gaim were the only open programs at the time.
[05:06] <arepie_> im just a little bit more to make my fglrx driver perfect, it's just the OpenGL is still mesa, is there a way to change it to ATI ?
[05:06] <cherubiel> dack: your update should have added the font lines
[05:07] <dr34mc0d3r> my mail is collecting in "Maildir/new" but when i type "mail" - it always says "No Mail for USER" - how can i fix this?
[05:07] <cherubiel> dack: the apt-get update/upgrade you would've done
[05:07] <Managu> CBSTXBill: Not sure what you have in mind there.  /msg ubotu !pastebin
[05:07] <cherubiel> dack: no, nope any programs, you need root perms to edit xorg.conf
[05:08] <dack> cherubiel: i guess i'm lucky to have you on this channel and this spare PII 400MHz i'm currently on :). without these i'd be lost without a working xorg.conf i can compare.
[05:08] <Dionys> Hi, (ov511)I'm having some problems with my webcam I intalled the drivers for it and now the cam light has lightend up, but it says it cant connect to video0
[05:08] <berent> managu : but why doesn't it open from applications tab
[05:08] <bombero> have problem with kde (6.06), kde always try to restore old session, and start no more needed programs, how can i delete this session ? where is the session stored (/home/user/.kde...)
[05:08] <Managu> berent: sorry, gonna need more info than that.  Why doesn't what open from the applications tab?  When?
[05:09] <NuhC> hi
[05:09] <NuhC> any helpful soul here?
[05:09] <NuhC> i'm a super noob in ubuntu
[05:09] <berent> managu : mplayer opens with another file from command line
[05:09] <bombero> NuhC, 925 souls (;-)
[05:09] <NuhC> hi
[05:09] <NuhC> i have a question
[05:10] <berent> managu: but when i try opening it from gui it doesn't
[05:10] <NuhC> when i close apps like skype and gaim, there's supposed to end up in the system tray
[05:10] <Managu> berent: what happens when you run "gmplayer" from the command line, no files
[05:10] <NuhC> but my system tray is totally missing
[05:10] <NuhC> i can't find the app icon
[05:10] <NuhC> suggestions?
[05:11] <Nytek> lol
[05:11] <berent> managu: skin not found
[05:11] <Managu> berent: well, there's your problem.
[05:11] <cherubiel> berent: apt-get install mplayer-skins
[05:11] <NuhC> oops
[05:11] <NuhC> i'm sorry
[05:12] <berent> ok i will try it
[05:12] <yaw> bombero,
[05:12] <NuhC> suggestions for my system tray problem?
[05:12] <cherubiel> NuhC: run kicker from the command prompt
[05:12] <cherubiel> NuhC: kicker
[05:12] <cherubiel> NuhC: see what happens :)
[05:12] <jesse__> trying to upgrade hoary to breezy. What does this error mean ?(in synaptic) "
[05:12] <jesse__> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libaspell-dev_0.60.3-5_i386.deb: failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `kdelibs-data': Input/output error"
[05:12] <cherubiel> jesse__: looks like a mirror problem..
[05:12] <berent> managu : mplayer-skins is already there
[05:13] <bushblows> if i wanted to monitor my system but have it updated to a webpage how would i go about doing this
[05:13] <bushblows> what software would i need for ubuntu
[05:13] <jesse__> can I install other packages and just ignore this one?
[05:13] <jesse__> cherubiel :)
[05:13] <Managu> berent: sorry, don't know from there offhand.  Maybe reinstall the skins package?
[05:14] <Managu> jesse__: libaspell-dev shouldn't be too essential.  On the other hand, kdelibs-data is quite important
[05:15] <dack> cherubiel: no, the problem isn't in xorg.conf
[05:15] <SuperMiguel> : i just put my index.html on my /var/www, when i try to load the page its says that i dont have permission to see the page... what can i do??
[05:15] <Dionys> is there anybody who can help me with the webcam ? :)
[05:15] <dack> cherubiel: i just compared a working xorg.conf with the one that is not working
[05:15] <Byan> how do I unzip files?
[05:15] <black_13> what package gives me lncurses-devel
[05:15] <jesse__> cherubeil - is the package important even if I am running gnome and dont want KDE?
[05:16] <Jeepston> sup guys
[05:16] <Managu> Dionys:  Just a silly question -- does the user you're logged into have permission to use /dev/video0?
[05:16] <dack> cherubiel: i get these on my .xsession-errors: x-session-manager: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined
[05:16] <dack> symbol: g_option_context_new
[05:16] <cherubiel> black_13: libncurses5-dev
[05:16] <Managu> jesse__: Probably, yes.  If you run any kde-based program (K3b is popular, for examble), you'll need kdelibs
[05:16] <Jeepston> somebody using kde 3.5.5 on edgy?
[05:17] <jesse__> managu _ thanks.. Is then th proper course of action to try to download the package again?
[05:18] <NuhC> i'm running drapper, my system tray is missing... how do i switch it back on?
[05:18] <Managu> jesse__: that'd be the first thing I'd try.
[05:19] <binaryjay> exit
[05:19] <Dionys> Managu, normally yes :)
[05:19] <raar> Hello, I'm installing Ubuntu and I'm getting as far as the first reboot - It seems like Ubuntu doesn't rewrite the mbr properly or something, when the computer reboots without the CD, it just reboots to the already installed OS (WinXP), and when I reboot with the CD, it just starts installing ubuntu from the beginning.. Any clue what I can do?
[05:19] <Dionys> I added my user to the video group :)
[05:20] <cherubiel> dack: gtk seems to be broken, try to upgrade gtk+, pango, atk and glib2
[05:20] <Managu> Dionys: mmkay, just a thought.
[05:20] <jesse__> raar I also had the same problems
[05:20] <berent> managu: mplayer opened at last
[05:20] <Managu> berent: cool =)
[05:20] <porkpie> Hey guy's where can I find out if there is a build that support Dell Power edge 1950
[05:20] <jesse__> raar are you getting to GRUB?
[05:20] <berent> managu : reinstalled skins
[05:20] <Dionys> Managu, there wasnt a video group do
[05:20] <Dionys> till I created one :/
[05:20] <raar> Nope, I'm not getting anywhere but to windows, unfortunately
[05:20] <berent> managu : but why is dapper so different from breezy
[05:20] <dack> cherubiel: how do i do that? apt-get update says there's nothing new. can i somehow force it to reinstall these?
[05:21] <raar> jesse__: (how) Did you solve the problem?
[05:21] <berent> managu : i dont find synaptic anywhere here
[05:21] <jesse__> raar hold on a sec, I ll try to find my post
[05:21] <Managu> berent: got me.  Fairly new to dapper myself.  Oh, mmm, synaptic was on the menus last I checked
[05:21] <Managu> Dionys: mmm?
[05:21] <Guest366> Hi is anyone able to help me to configure WLAN in Kubuntu?
[05:21] <Dionys> ya :/
[05:21] <Dionys> strange eh
[05:21] <Managu> Dionys: Sorry, couldn't parse your sentence: "There wasn't a video group do"
[05:22] <Dionys> :p
[05:22] <raar> jesse__: Okay, thanks very much for the effort :)
[05:22] <berent> managu :  which menu i dont find it in system->administration nor in system-preferences
[05:22] <Dionys> I created the group video myself because I couldnt find it in the groups list
[05:22] <SuperMiguel> how cna i change folders permissions?
[05:23] <porkpie> Is there another channel that can tell me when ubuntu release's are coming up
[05:23] <Managu> berent: it's at system -> administration -> synaptic for me
[05:23] <erUSUL> SuperMiguel: RightClick in the folder choose properties
[05:23] <J-K> ok im confused, what version has xgl/compiz ??
[05:23] <Managu> Dionys: ahh, in that case the video device might not be set to be accessible by the video group
[05:23] <jesse__> raar try  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2521253 or http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[05:23] <johnb> I believe this is a question about apt-listchanges, but I'm not sure ... when I do a package update, after apt-listchanges displays the changes, I get messages about "unable to initialize frontend: Kde"
[05:23] <berent> managu : this is unfair i dont find it at all
[05:24] <SuperMiguel> erUSUL: but it tell me that i have to be root, there is any way to be root on graphucal mode?
[05:24] <Managu> Dionys: if you "ls -l /dev/video*", what do you get?
[05:24] <ianmacgregor> SuperMiguel: use gksudo:  gksudo nautilus
[05:24] <Dionys> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      6 2006-10-12 17:12 /dev/video -> video0
[05:24] <Dionys> crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2006-10-12 17:12 /dev/video0
[05:24] <johnb> I want to use the dialog frontend, which is what it falls back to, but I'm confused by the errors
[05:24] <raar> jesse__: The requested URL /starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html was not found on this server.
[05:24] <jesse__> raar sounds like you have no grub
[05:24] <unfknblvbl> night and thanks agian for your help people!
[05:24] <johnb> I tried dpkg-reconfigure-ing debconf and apt-listchanges, but they're both already correct
[05:25] <johnb> when I just do dpkg-reconfigure <package>, I don't get the errors
[05:25] <jesse__> raar try the 2nd link
[05:25] <erUSUL> SuperMiguel: 'gksudo nautilus' but changing permisions of system folders is not adviced...
[05:25] <Managu> Dionys: and touch /dev/video0 ?
[05:25] <J-K> he what version of ubuntu has xgl/compiz?
[05:25] <qmf> hey guys, i'm trying to play video files directly from my windows server over the network in edgy. it buffers in totem then doesn't play. any ideas?
[05:25] <raar> jesse__: Reading it, thanks very muchly :)
[05:26] <jesse__> raar good luck
[05:26] <Audimage> hello, I am trying to get a machine to connect to the network. I have the proper drivers installed, and I don't know what the problem is
[05:27] <raar> jesse__: thanks, I have the feeling I'm on the right track
[05:27] <raar> with that link
[05:27] <Dionys> nothin Managu
[05:27] <Audimage> and, im sorry...but i can't really be more specific
[05:27] <Audimage> i am pretty new to ubuntu
[05:27] <Managu> Dionys: good, just as expected.
[05:27] <erlv> look up your  DNS    setting
[05:27] <Audimage> i have the proper dns ips
[05:27] <Audimage> that i know
[05:28] <Dionys> k, what dumb thing I did this time Managu :p
[05:28] <Managu> Dionys: I suspect your drivers.  I'd take a look through the output of dmesg
[05:28] <slacktyro> hi all, i'm new at ubuntu, i used to use slackware for two years, now i'd like to try another distros
[05:28] <Managu> Dionys: no dumb thing.  Just gotta check them first (permissions, etc).
[05:28] <Dionys> euhm
[05:29] <arepie_> how to change mesa OpenGL library to ATI ?
[05:29] <Dionys> where can I paste it ?
[05:29] <Managu> !pastebin
[05:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:29] <marnanel> my dapper installation (on a dell inspiron 2200) has just today started being very slow at repainting the screen. it used to be instantaneous. now it takes maybe half a second to redraw anything, top to bottom. where should I be looking to fix this?
[05:29] <Dionys> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26449/, Managu :)
[05:29] <slacktyro> i'd like to know from you, which package update method do you use?
[05:30] <Managu> Dionys: I'll take a look, but lemme warn yas, I have no experience with webcams under linux
[05:30] <marnanel> slacktyro: me? apt-get
[05:30] <bushblows> is a SCSI card hard to setup in ubuntu.
[05:30] <Dionys> oki
[05:30] <Dionys> ty
[05:30] <SuperMiguel> im getting this error Forbidden
[05:30] <SuperMiguel> You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.
[05:30] <slacktyro> marnanel: thank you
[05:30] <berent> webcams on linux dionys ? purpose
[05:31] <Dionys> ah jff
[05:31] <Yurtle> is liblame what i need to install for soundconverter to do mp3s ?
[05:31] <Dionys> webcamming with girlfriend etc :)
[05:31] <Dionys> ^_^
[05:31] <mikefoo> Ok so I have a drive fail on raid so I mdadm --removed the drive, I rebooted and I am stuck at GRUB, how would I proceed? What am I doing wrong to replace the drive?
[05:32] <Managu> Dionys what tool are you using to test the cam?
[05:32] <Dionys> ubuntu media systems selector
[05:32] <Dionys> v4lsrc (v4l) stuff
[05:32] <marnanel> I wondered maybe whether something had changed in the X server, but there's not been any updates to it recently
[05:33] <Managu> Dionys: heh, never heard of it.  When you run it, you get...?
[05:33] <cherubiel> marnanel: whats the problem?
[05:33] <arepie_> how to change mesa OpenGL library to ATI ?
[05:33] <marnanel> cherubiel: my dapper installation (on a dell inspiron 2200) has just today started being very slow at repainting the screen. it used to be instantaneous. now it takes maybe half a second to redraw anything, top to bottom. where should I be looking to fix this?
[05:33] <Dionys> that it cannot open the device /dev/video0
[05:33] <slacktyro> i installed it some minutes ago and i think it only installed de gnome, am i wrong?
[05:33] <cherubiel> marnanel: your drivers ofcourse, did you do any apt-get upgrades?
[05:34] <Dionys> for reading and writing
[05:34] <Dionys> sorry
[05:34] <ks1> Driver "vesa" is very slow..
[05:34] <Dionys> but I did chmod 666 on it ... :/
[05:34] <Managu> Dionys: sec
[05:35] <Dionys> yaya offcourse take all the time you need :)
[05:35] <berent> which is the best place to get gaim2.0.0 3.1 beta for dapper
[05:35] <marnanel> cherubiel: nothing I can see in the last while
[05:35] <marnanel> I am using vesa. But it's always been fairly fast up till now.
[05:35] <beligum> I'm missing some source files (driver sources) in the ubuntu kernel source package; why's that
[05:36] <cherubiel> beligum: are those 3rd party drivers?
[05:36] <beligum> no, usb drivers
[05:36] <beligum> eg. I'm missing /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686/drivers/usb/core/hcd.h
[05:36] <marnanel> I will try switching to some other driver and see whether that improves matters.
[05:38] <slacktyro> should i trust in that package manager at gnome or it's better to upgrade through apt-get?
[05:38] <cherubiel> slacktyro: eventually uses apt
[05:38] <slacktyro> cherubiel: ty
[05:38] <cherubiel> slacktyro: all are front ends for apt, afaik
[05:39] <slacktyro> i still prefer the console mode :)
[05:39] <slacktyro> slackware put it in your blood
[05:39] <Managu> Dionys: my thought is to try running xawtv or some other v4l program against the camera to see if it'll yield more info
[05:39] <beligum> what's the difference between the official (kernel.org) kernel, and the one in repo ?
[05:40] <beligum> The source, I mean
[05:40] <cherubiel> beligum: vanilla vs stock kernel
[05:40] <beligum> not familiar with those terms
[05:41] <cherubiel> beligum: you should read up a bit.
[05:41] <berent> why does my cdrom doesn't open it gets stuck !!! any reasons apart from mechanical abrasive reactions
[05:41] <Rambo3> are they even compiled , the ones at kernel.org
[05:42] <beligum> Can I get plain vanilla from repo?
[05:42] <cherubiel> beligum: nope, you need to get them from the kernel.org mirrors
[05:43] <beligum> ok
[05:43] <beligum> :(
[05:43] <Shoiab> Hi, every one, i need help about modem.... want to know which pci modem support by ubuntu!!!! as well as need some link in that respect
[05:43] <berent> which is the best place to get gaim2.0.0 3.1 beta for dapper
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i dident think the vanilla kernels would work correctly?
[05:43] <cherubiel> berent: compile from the sources, thats the best way
[05:44] <Rambo3> i woudlent think that
[05:44] <berent> cherubiel : where are the sources
[05:44] <beligum> I need to compile a driver, but the kernel sources from the repository miss some header files
[05:44] <cherubiel> on the sourceforge gaim site
[05:45] <cherubiel> beligum: sorry i missed that again, what was the file again?
[05:45] <beligum> drivers/usb/core/hcd.h
[05:45] <cherubiel> also, if you need to build a module, get your current(uname -r) kernel sources.
[05:45] <beligum> I have
[05:45] <Rambo3> and kernel headers ?
[05:46] <beligum> well, I did a sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:46] <beligum> not enough?
[05:46] <Shoiab>  Hi, every one, i need help about modem.... want to know list of  pci modem support by ubuntu!!!! as well as need some link in that respect
[05:47] <Rambo3> bellgum, check you /usr/src and see that it is unpacked , simlinked and you have oldconfig
[05:47] <cherubiel> beligum: what abt the kernel sources :) ?
[05:47] <cherubiel> beligum: apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r`
[05:48] <Rambo3> does kernel source have uname -r ?
[05:48] <Shoiab> Hi, every one, i need help about modem.... want to know list of  pci modem support by ubuntu!!!! as well as need some link in that respect
[05:48] <C-O-L-T> anybody has a Canon i250 printer that works under Ubuntu 6.06 Linux?
[05:48] <ceee> hi folks - i'm just testing if this works
[05:48] <beligum> can't find a kernel-source package ? (Am I missing something in my sources.list?)
[05:49] <cherubiel> beligum: whats the command you used?
[05:49] <beligum> apt-cache search kernel source :)
[05:49] <Rambo3> try linux-source
[05:49] <cherubiel> beligum: universe repo ?
[05:49] <beligum> aaaaaah, there it is
[05:50] <akonkwa> Does anyone know how I can mount a usb harddisk ? (I'm using breezy)
[05:50] <beligum> it's linux-source-2.6.15
[05:50] <beligum> doesn't work with uname -r
[05:50] <Rambo3> and it shouldent
[05:50] <Rambo3> headers are with uname -r
[05:50] <TheGateKeeper> akonkwa: it should automount
[05:51] <cherubiel> beligum: you could also try this package -> linux-kernel-devel
[05:51] <Shoiab> I feel that my Question is UN answerabble
[05:51] <beligum> ok, didn't know that, thanks you all
[05:51] <cherubiel> Shoiab: winmodems, read up on that.
[05:51] <HeathenDan> if it's sda1, then pmount /dev/sda1 /media/<new folder>
[05:51] <jake2> When I try to boot with the ubuntu-cd i get "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0" (and logical block 213123 something). I've burnt 5 CDs on the lowest speed possible and they still produce the exact same error, any ideas?
[05:52] <akonkwa> TheGateKeeper,  What do I do if it doesn't , can I do it manually ?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> hda is the hard drive isewnt it? not the cdrom?
[05:52] <jake2> yep, hda is the harddrive... :p
[05:52] <HeathenDan> akonkwa, read my post
[05:52] <Shoiab> hmm
[05:53] <jake2> Windows is working just fine etc so i doubt it's any of my hardware
[05:53] <TheGateKeeper> akonkwa: yep what HeathenDan said
[05:53] <Dr_willis> jake2,  Hmm.... the logic of that statement.. may not be  accurate. :P
[05:53] <Dr_willis> jake2,  unplug the hd - see if the live cd boots?
[05:53] <Alakazamz0r> yeah
[05:54] <jake2> Well, if linux forces me to unplug my HD I don't see why I would want to install it anyway... and on what drive would I install it then? =)
[05:54] <TheGateKeeper> HeathenDan: does hal have trouble recognising them for some people?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> jake2,  im guessing you got some oddities with the hard drive not the cdrom
[05:55] <Dr_willis> jake2, exactly when is this message showing up.. and  its making the live-cd stop booting?
[05:55] <jake2> Why would the live-cd even want to touch my HD? And the HD is working just fine, I've used chkdsk etc
[05:55] <akonkwa> HeathenDan, where can i find your post?
[05:56] <cherubiel> jake2: dude where are you getting stuck?
[05:56] <jake2> Just after i press enter on "Start Ubuntu (install)"
[05:56] <valcom> Hello
[05:56] <jake2> and then It starts to load stuff, and there is when it crashes
[05:56] <OSV> Can I check disk on bad clasters existence in Linux/Ubuntu?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> jake2,  so the Installer is crashing?
[05:56] <jake2> No, the "booter"
[05:56] <valcom> My hdd is not available at the installation, it's an western S-ATA II (PM-WDC WD2500K - S-ATA II)
[05:57] <valcom> an ideas ?
[05:57] <marnanel> props to whoever suggested switching to non-vesa, that seems to have fixed it
[05:57] <ks1> marnanel: np :P
[05:58] <Dr_willis> jake2,  could try some other live cd's or the alternative install cd. see what 'fdisk -l' says about that hard drive, and what gparted thinks of it.
[05:58] <jake2> gparted thinks its fine
[05:58] <jake2> and chkdisk in windows thinks it fine
[05:58] <jake2> i'm 99,9% sure it's no the hd
[05:58] <OSV> How can I check disk on bad clasters existence in Linux/Ubuntu?
[05:58] <ks1> jake2: how about fsck ?
[05:59] <ks1> sorry thought you were talking about the bad clusters
[05:59] <ks1> OSV: fsck
[05:59] <jake2> i'm 99,99% sure there are NO bad clusters on my HD =)
[06:00] <Courtney> jake2, all hard drives have clusters that are bad, thats why its not the full 60GB but it is really 57GB
[06:00] <OSV> ks1, shouldn't I use fsck when disk is mounted?
[06:01] <ks1> you can use to check for errors i do beleive
[06:01] <jake2> Courtney: No, that's not true
[06:01] <ks1> that is what it does at bootup
[06:01] <OSV> ah, yes?
[06:01] <Milkyy> Hi, I want to setup a LAN, but what do I do after changing IP-adresses? I want to be able to drag-n-drop etc...
[06:01] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I used the convert-to-Christian-Ubuntu script on my Kubuntu installation, and now my internet is messed up. Neither Konqueror nor Firefox can get online. How do I undo this?
[06:01] <OSV> it checks my disk on boot?
[06:01] <jake2> It's because manufacturers count a kb as 1000b and the computer counts it as 1024b
[06:01] <Milkyy> I have one Ubuntu comp and one Xubuntu.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Milkyy,  huh..
[06:01] <Courtney> When I hit enter on the Ubuntu CD that I ordered and select live/install, it brings me back to the Ubuntu CD Splash screen. Why is that?
[06:02] <OSV> does it checks it for bad clusters or some other check?
[06:02] <Digital_Pioneer> Firefox says "Network connection error: Check network settings and try again."
[06:02] <Milkyy> Dr_willis:  hm?
[06:02] <black_13> !kernel
[06:02] <cherubiel> Milkyy: samba is the word.
[06:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:02] <cherubiel> !samba
[06:02] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Milkyy,  you are a little vague  in what you are trying to do..
[06:02] <Milkyy> I'm perfectly clear. I want to be able to drag and drop stuff from one computer to another...
[06:03] <cherubiel> Milkyy: configure samba and access the shares
[06:03] <Milkyy> but I don't want to access a windows share
[06:03] <Dr_willis> then use ssh.
[06:03] <Digital_Pioneer> Konqueror says "An error occured while connecting to <url>     Could not connect to host <website>" where the items in <> are the corresponding addresses.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> or nfs
[06:03] <Courtney> or FTP
[06:03] <black_13> !kernel
[06:03] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:03] <Milkyy> I want to transfer stuff from a Xubuntu comp to an Ubuntu one
[06:03] <Digital_Pioneer> Looks like everything else gets online no problem.
[06:04] <jake2> So... I take it no one has any ideas then...? =/
[06:04] <cherubiel> Milkyy: you can dude.
[06:04] <Courtney> jake2, what is your issue? PM please
[06:04] <Milkyy> with Samba?
[06:04] <cherubiel> Milkyy: yeah
[06:04] <Milkyy> any good GUIs for it?
[06:05] <Milkyy> Or is it provided?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Milkyy,  the gnome file manager has a samba browser/feature I recall
[06:05] <jhasse> Which font is used here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/XubuntuEdgy/Proposals?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=xubuntu-murrina.png
[06:05] <jake2> Courtney: I can't pm you because of the security...
[06:05] <Dr_willis> I perfer to mount my samba shares using smb4k
[06:05] <Courtney> jake2, what security?
[06:05] <jake2> aw 505: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[06:05] <Courtney> damn
[06:05] <Milkyy> nice
[06:06] <Milkyy> Dr_willis: isn't Smb4K qt?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> Milkyy,  so? :P
[06:07] <jake2> Oh, well - The problem is: When I try to boot with the ubuntu-cd i get "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0" (and logical block 213123 something). I've burnt 5 CDs on the lowest speed possible and they still produce the exact same error, any ideas?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Milkyy,  actually taht FuseSambaFS or FuseSSH stuff is handy as well
[06:07] <Milkyy> Dr_willis: well I prefer gtk :)
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Milkyy,  whatever. :)
[06:07] <Dr_willis> aint you just special.
[06:07] <mih> what audio-editing tool would you recommend on ubuntu?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> i still havent found a tool as good as smb4k for gnome  yet.
[06:08] <gilesw> audacity is supposed to be good
[06:08] <defrysk>   mih easytag
[06:08] <kmaynard> mih, audacity, rosegarden
[06:08] <kmu_> audacity
[06:08] <gilesw> i've not tried it out yet mind
[06:08] <bionoid> mih: I used audacity with success
[06:08] <Milkyy> firstly, I don't need to get QT. It takes up plenty of space just for that one program. Secondly I don't like trolltech so you can't convice me to get it :P
[06:08] <kmaynard> depending on the type of audo
[06:08] <mih> ok thanks guys, I'll try them out :)
[06:08] <Digital_Pioneer> Hey, I don't want to be pushy, but my web browsers not working is just a little bit annoying.
[06:08] <MaKaTiGuY> guys, can you suggest a nice address book for ubuntu
[06:08] <kmaynard> what browser
[06:08] <jerry> I'm having a devil of a time with WMV decoders. Anyone have any thoughts?
[06:08] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: define "not working" - and what browser
[06:09] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Firefox and Konqueror. Both will not connect to the internet.
[06:09] <kmaynard> MaKaTiGuY, what about thunderbird or evolutions built in address books?
[06:09] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Firefox says "Network connection error. Please check settings... etc."
[06:09] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: Can you connect to hosts on port 80 using, say, telnet?
[06:09] <kmaynard> Digital_Pioneer, are you using IRC on that box?
[06:09] <MaKaTiGuY> kmaynard: more simplier that those
[06:09] <Shoiab> is ant kubuntu irc chat room
[06:09] <MaKaTiGuY> kmaynard: more simplier than those
[06:09] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: open a terminal, type telnet slashdot.org 80
[06:10] <Shoiab> is any kubuntu Chat Room???
[06:10] <Rookie_> !kubuntu
[06:10] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <Ng> would someone be so kind as to remind me the easy way of building extra modules, like zaptel-source that put themselves in /usr/src/modules? :)
[06:10] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[06:10] <berent> whats missing here
[06:11] <berent> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[06:11] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: But you are IRCing from that box? or is it a different one?
[06:11] <Digital_Pioneer> kmaynard: I'm using Konversation on the box whose browsers won't go online, yes.
[06:11] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Yes.
[06:11] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Same box.
[06:11] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: I think it's Christian Ubuntu's web filtering junk getting in the way.
[06:12] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: Then there's a fair chance that either 1) you have some nasty ipchains rules on that box, or 2) there are some nasty filtering in your router. Does web work from other boxes on the same network?
[06:12] <bionoid> Er, iptables,
[06:12] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Yes, it does.
[06:12] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: Type iptables -L
[06:12] <bionoid> (pastebin the output if it's long)
[06:12] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: I just installed the "Convert to Christian Ubuntu" script earlier, and my web has been messed up ever since.
[06:12] <jlc> cherubiel, i got 6.06.1 to install on my immou problem, the next kernel must have fixed it
[06:12] <Enselic> how do I find and output all files that is on the form gimp*tools.c? find . -name "gimp*tools.c" does not work (it should find gimptest-tools.c for instance)
[06:12] <berent> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[06:13] <berent> which package is missing here
[06:13] <OSV> is it safe to use badblock?
[06:13] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: Um, ok, here's some advice; keep it satanic.
[06:13] <bionoid> :P
[06:13] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Uhh, if you want that output, I'll have to use a pastebin.
[06:13] <Rookie_> oki, av ngon annledning s lser den inte internfaces ....
[06:13] <Shaezsche> i accidently delted my xorg.conf how can i generate a new one??
[06:13] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: I think I've figured that out. ;)
[06:13] <defrysk> Shaezsche, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:14] <ianmacgregor> Shaezsche: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:14] <jerry> wmv help anyone?
[06:14] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: I have no clue what the christian-thing does, but presumably it considers web non-appropriate ;p
[06:14] <Dr_willis> 'friends dont let friends use wmv's"
[06:14] <defrysk> Shaezsche, also stop playing ;)
[06:14] <Shaezsche> playing?
[06:14] <jrib> Enselic: that should work, I just tried it and it found that file
[06:14] <ianmacgregor> Dr_willis: lol
[06:14] <Shaezsche> defrysk what?
[06:15] <defrysk> Shaezsche, like deleting files like xor.conf
[06:15] <defrysk> xorg.conf*
[06:15] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Yeah, something like that. Whatever it does, it hooked me up to a proxy. I got rid of the proxy and told my system to connect directly. It doesn't seem to be listening.
[06:15] <ianmacgregor> Shaezsche: It's a good ide tomake a backup of any system file before editing it
[06:15] <Enselic> jrib: oh, yeah it worked, I should end with tool not tools though :) thanks
[06:15] <Shaezsche> oh
[06:16] <Shaezsche> there was a backup i accidently dleted that too
[06:16] <Shaezsche> how do i use a backup? just rename it?
[06:16] <ianmacgregor> Shaezsche: d'oh!
[06:16] <jerry> I am unable to play WMV files in any of the video-players.
[06:16] <ianmacgregor> Shaezsche: sudo cp file.ext file.bak.ext
[06:16] <MaKaTiGuY> can someone help me to use wine, tnx
[06:16] <defrysk> shadow`, cp file file.bac for example
[06:16] <jerry> I'm using VLC, MPlayer, KMPlayer, and Totem.
[06:17] <pike_> jerry: youve installed the w32codecs?
[06:17] <jerry> Yes.
[06:17] <killown> jerry yes install codecs
[06:17] <killown> /usr/lib/win32
[06:17] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: Strange eh, probably a proxy for filtering content, but then again, the fact that you can't connect to port 80 using telnet indicates some evil iptables rules - pastebin the output of uptables -F please
[06:17] <gilesw> has anyone else found audio delayed when watching vids on youtube?
[06:17] <jerry> The LAST thing for me to try...and I'm putting it off because of complexity...is compiling codecs and the latest version of mplayer myself.
[06:17] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: OK, on moment.
[06:17] <gilesw> i'm using swiftfox with the standard flash plugin
[06:18] <gilesw> 32bit bunty
[06:18] <defrysk> makers of youtube are rich now , they can delay anything
[06:18] <jerry> My eyes cross when I look at the README from the MPlayer homesite.
[06:18] <hypnox> does anyone know how i can tell the server install to install the 386 kernel instead of a 686 one?
[06:18] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: uptables does not exist. Assuming iptables; iptables -F has no output. Assuming iptables -L
[06:19] <defrysk> 386 kernel is the default one
[06:19] <hypnox> defrysk are you sure?
[06:19] <defrysk> hypnox, afaIk yup
[06:20] <hypnox> ux-image-server -> this will be installed as default on Dapper i386 server, needs i686 or higher architecture
[06:20] <beligum> I'm looking for a sexy name for the concept of linux videohelpdesking (see http://blog.beligum.org and captorials.com). Any suggestions?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> hay all - in fstab i got a -->        /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1          Question is.. What is gid=46 actually doing?
[06:20] <defrysk> hypnox, not sure about htat, sorry
[06:20] <black_13> while i am trying to build the kernel i get the following messages
[06:20] <black_13> {standard input}:720: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
[06:21] <pike_> hypnox: hmm apt-cache doesnt say if its compiled for 686 or 386..
[06:21] <Dr_willis> some how only members of a specific group can get to the mounted ntfs share?
[06:21] <flodine_> is there a irc room for edgy
[06:21] <hypnox> pike_ its supposed to autodetect the kernel but its not working for me
[06:21] <black_13> do i need ot have assembler gasm installed to build the kernel
[06:21] <Dr_willis> !edgy
[06:21] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:22] <apokryphos> Dr_willis: it's set the group id
[06:22] <prime> joined the room
[06:22] <apokryphos> if there's no group id with that number, then I suppose something might go wrong
[06:22] <pike_> hypnox: ive done server install a number of times but i never paid any attention since first thing i would do is apt-get the k7 or 686 kernel..
[06:22] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Sorry for delay, I'm using a text-based browser and pastebin is malfunctioning... ;)
[06:23] <prime> i wasn,t able to make my midi songs run... help
[06:23] <Alakazamz0r> i Love malfunctions
[06:23] <hypnox> pike_ i am installing onto a via c3 which is 386 onl;y
[06:23] <Dr_willis> apokryphos,  yea.. i notice in /etc/group   plugdev:x:46:haldaemon,willis
[06:23] <Dr_willis> so a differnt user say 'bubba' cant access tht ntfs share then eh?
[06:23] <apokryphos> Dr_willis: that's the theory, yes.
[06:24] <anilomkar> can any one tell how to set variables in firefox???
[06:24] <prime> bye
[06:24] <Dr_willis> apokryphos,  just seems odd to use the umask and gid options -  i guess.. :) got me confused
[06:24] <arepie> !ati
[06:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:25] <anilomkar> can any one tell how to set variables in firefox???
[06:25] <pike_> hypnox: only thing i could think of is a livecd and copy over kernel and edit menu.lst.. sorry
[06:25] <THX-1138> about:config in the address bar
[06:25] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: OK, there's two of them (...?) on http://pastebin.com You should be able to find one.
[06:26] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: a quick question if I may?
[06:27] <black_13> where would i find a guild to building the kernel for ubuntu?
[06:27] <boink> !kernel
[06:27] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:27] <guiton> hi everybody , i'm a french Ubuntu user and i have some problems with my hardware (sound card ,wifi)
[06:28] <alainlucas_> does someone know how to open a mdb MS Access database which encoding is BIG5 using OpenOffice ?
[06:28] <alainlucas_> actually my problem is the bad encoding when opening the database, it uses UTF8 by default
[06:29] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Are you getting that? I'm having some trouble...
[06:29] <guiton> where can i find detailled answers for my problems
[06:29] <Shaezsche> whoever told me to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg that didnthelp. i dont know all the settigns. i want to AUTO generate the file like ubuntu did when it installed
[06:29] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: Ironically I can't connect to pastebin.com
[06:29] <jrib> Shaezsche: choose the default for the ones you don't know
[06:29] <Shaezsche> jrib what!?! i dont know any of them
[06:29] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: I know the feeling. Same here.
[06:29] <Shaezsche> i dont want to risk that
[06:30] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: would you post it to pastebin.ca instead?
[06:30] <jrib> Shaezsche: why are you reconfiguring?
[06:30] <Shaezsche> can i auto reconfigure? i mean how does ubuntu do it when it initially intalls
[06:30] <Shaezsche> jrib i dleted my xorg
[06:30] <Shaezsche> accidently
[06:30] <THX-1138> Shaezsche: nvidia-xconfig - nvidia cards
[06:30] <boink> ouch
[06:30] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: I just pasted it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:30] <jrib> Shaezsche: choose the defaults, it should work
[06:30] <Shaezsche> i dont want the defaults i dont want it to merely WORK
[06:30] <Shaezsche> i want the original xorg back
[06:30] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: need the full url there is no list on it
[06:31] <gnomefreak> TheGateKeeper: what can i help you with?
[06:31] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: I know...  How do I extract the current URL from W3M?
[06:31] <boink> isn't linux more painful than windows?
[06:31] <bionoid> no idea.
[06:31] <FordPrefect> linux is a different kind of pain than windows
[06:31] <Digital_Pioneer> boink: Nope!
[06:31] <jrib> Shaezsche: I don't see what you lose by trying the defaults
[06:31] <boink> true .. for maximum pain you need two computers
[06:31] <Shaezsche> jrib whatever, just tell me how to get ubuntu to autodetect and set it up
[06:32] <THX-1138> Shaezsche: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - is written for ubuntu and is your best option
[06:32] <Digital_Pioneer> boink: Windoze is an evil, slow, infernal, overpriced OS. :)
[06:32] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: would this --> sudo aptitude update  && sudo aptitude upgrade  give me the chance to uninstall the new update and reinstall the old one if it was borked?
[06:32] <FordPrefect> no virus scanners, better filesystem, less security holes, cheaper, better support
[06:32] <Shaezsche> cant i reinstall xorg from apt-get or something
[06:32] <FordPrefect> oh and less rebooting
[06:32] <MaKaTiGuY> can any one help me to configure my webcam?
[06:32] <gnomefreak> TheGateKeeper: no you have to install the old version
[06:32] <bionoid> Digital_Pioneer: is your box comfortably placed behind a firewall already? in that case you might want to just flush using iptables -F (that might bork something though)
[06:33] <THX-1138> MaKaTiGuY: !webcam
[06:33] <FordPrefect> windows: less sucky than X-windows (minus that thereading thing), better hardware support, probably pre-installed
[06:33] <hyperspace> Hi, anyone running FreeNX and successfully connecting from win32 client? I am unable to find the 1.5.x win32 client. :\
[06:33] <THX-1138> !webcam
[06:33] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:33] <MaKaTiGuY> !webcam
[06:33] <MaKaTiGuY> ?
[06:33] <slacktyro> i'm getting problems with my sound
[06:33] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: that's what I meant, if I use synaptic the old one is removed from my cache so I stuffed
[06:33] <XsesA> hello
[06:33] <XsesA> ?
[06:33] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: I did iptables -F earlier... :\ My internet still isn't working.
[06:34] <orbin> MaKaTiGuY: read the stuff ubotu posted...
[06:34] <gnomefreak> TheGateKeeper: get it from packages.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <slacktyro> when i installed ubuntu, the phone head was working, the speakers don't, i change at alsamixer and now nothing is working
[06:34] <jamx> Digital_Pioneer: did u verify the default policy for input/output chain?
[06:34] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: using aptitude would allow to remove the dependencies when I com to uninstall
[06:34] <XsesA> umm i am downloading ubuntu atm, i don't know anything about linux, can any1 help me?
[06:34] <hyperspace> Hi, anyone running FreeNX and successfully connecting from win32 client? I am unable to find the 1.5.x win32 client. :\
[06:34] <THX-1138> slackytyro - take a peek at alsamixer - it might help. - if it is scratchy sounding probably a codec problem
[06:34] <Digital_Pioneer> jamx: Uhhh, what?
[06:34] <monu> hello
[06:35] <Digital_Pioneer> jamx: I have no idea what that means.
[06:35] <jamx> Digital_Pioneer: type iptables -L
[06:35] <slacktyro> THX-1138: how can i take a peek
[06:35] <XsesA> plz pm if you can help me, i don't know anything about linux and i want to install it..
[06:35] <jamx> does it say policy ACCEPT or.. ?
[06:35] <monu> my machine is low
[06:35] <monu> slow
[06:35] <FordPrefect> XsesA, grab the ubuntu isos from ubuntu.org
[06:35] <DemisM> anyone get a tablet pc wokring with ubuntu?
[06:36] <XsesA> oh i do
[06:36] <Digital_Pioneer> jamx: Input Output and Forward all say policy ACCEPT
[06:36] <FordPrefect> burn the CD
[06:36] <XsesA> but i tried to read some stuff
[06:36] <FordPrefect> boot from it
[06:36] <monu> is kde good enough
[06:36] <monu> ??
[06:36] <XsesA> they talk about partitions
[06:36] <FordPrefect> double click install
[06:36] <XsesA> and something that has to be twice as the ram?!
[06:36] <FordPrefect> yeah ignore all that stuff for your first run
[06:36] <THX-1138> slackytyro - open a terminal window type alsamixer - use the arrow keys to scroll side to side
[06:36] <gnomefreak> TheGateKeeper: yes but the depends didnt cause the mess up im sure. and upgrading is just that upgrade not downgrade
[06:36] <FordPrefect> swap space
[06:36] <FordPrefect> you need 2 partitions really
[06:36] <XsesA> yeah what's that
[06:36] <FordPrefect> "/"
[06:36] <FordPrefect> and swap
[06:36] <FordPrefect> 2xram is a guideline.
[06:36] <XsesA> can we talk on pm?
[06:36] <FordPrefect> On Winblows you have a swapfile
[06:36] <slacktyro> THX-1138: i did that my friend, but now nothing is working
[06:37] <FordPrefect> On linux you have a dedicated swap partition
[06:37] <slacktyro> i installed the ubuntum one hour ago
[06:37] <XsesA> look i have a clear 55gb now
[06:37] <THX-1138> feeling adventurous? - google "linux swappiness"
[06:37] <boink> ubuntu just makes two partitions by default
[06:37] <XsesA> (still ntfs tho)
[06:37] <boink> and the swap
[06:37] <FordPrefect> XsesA okay but don't expect high throughput, I'm contributing as I go, so high latency
[06:37] <FordPrefect> XsesA are you free to delete the ntfs partition?
[06:37] <THX-1138> slackytyro - Eek! Nothing????
[06:37] <XsesA> gah can't pm
[06:37] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: I am looking for a possible way to 'roleback' on those odd occasions the devs mess up and let through a borked update, it has happen twice recently
[06:37] <XsesA> yeah
[06:38] <Shaezsche> is one gig too much for a swap file
[06:38] <FordPrefect> (meaning do you have data you need to keep or do you plan to dual boot)
[06:38] <XsesA> nothing in that prations
[06:38] <XsesA> formatted it (ntfs)
[06:38] <slacktyro> THX-1138: yep
[06:38] <FordPrefect> XsesA you have to register your nick to d othat
[06:38] <orbin> Shaezsche: depedns on what you do
[06:38] <XsesA> yeah i know
[06:38] <Shaezsche> gam
[06:38] <Shaezsche> game
[06:38] <XsesA> just talk here
[06:38] <XsesA> u said u dun have time
[06:38] <XsesA> so i don't want to spend time :)
[06:38] <THX-1138> slackytyro - erm.. erm.. um-mmm - i dunno. - are all of the sliders shown?
[06:38] <s_spiff> how to edit ifconfig?
[06:38] <FordPrefect> kay...do you need your NTFS partition
[06:38] <FordPrefect> or can you blow it away?
[06:38] <XsesA> what u mean
[06:39] <XsesA> i plan to use it for the linux
[06:39] <boink> s_spiff: with an editor
[06:39] <FordPrefect> can you wipe your drive completely?
[06:39] <gnomefreak> TheGateKeeper: if your using devel/testing version i would have to say get used to it. if you are running stable there are a few ways to downgrade easist is to download package from packages.ubuntu.com and install it with dpkg
[06:39] <slacktyro> THX-1138: yep
[06:39] <FordPrefect> (you said it was still NTFS)
[06:39] <slacktyro> s_spiff: if you type man ifconfig
[06:39] <XsesA> it's 1 hard disk divided to 20gb (with the windows)
[06:39] <s_spiff> boink, command sudo gedit ifconfig will do?
[06:39] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Sent paste to pastebin.ca.
[06:39] <XsesA> and 55gb (free, plan to put linux on it)
[06:39] <slacktyro> s_spiff: will you get all infrmation needed
[06:39] <boink> or sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[06:39] <FordPrefect> ah okay so I don't know about dual booting
[06:39] <XsesA> and another 250gb ntfs system...
[06:39] <FordPrefect> someone else will have to help with that (sorry)
[06:40] <boink> interfaces is where the network card stuff is stored
[06:40] <XsesA> okay
[06:40] <FordPrefect> I don't run windows
[06:40] <puff> I have a laptop with two partitions, one the OEM winxp, the second ubuntu.  I need to reinstall ubuntu.  I don't have a backup device (I'm on the road).  Is there any way I can shrink the ubuntu partition, make a third partition, copy user data over to the third partition, and then reinstall ubuntu on the second partition?
[06:40] <THX-1138> slackytyro - (Can you keep a secret? I am a refugee from AOL. only recently discovered real computing.)
[06:40] <XsesA> well anyway
[06:40] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: http://pastebin.ca/199574
[06:40] <XsesA> it shouldn't be too hard right?
[06:40] <boink> no
[06:40] <s_spiff> slacktyro, thanks. will try to figure it out.
[06:40] <XsesA> i mean like just burn and run? :|
[06:40] <boink> let's hope so
[06:40] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: ohh ok thanx, well I am using stable, i.e. dapper not edge
[06:40] <FordPrefect> XsesA probably not hard at all
[06:40] <XsesA> cuz i found some stuff
[06:40] <FordPrefect> and in fact you can at least "try" ubutnu by just booting from the CD
[06:40] <XsesA> and they talk many bullshit
[06:40] <slacktyro> THX-1138: i'm using gnu/linux a little time too
[06:40] <boink> ubuntu does take much of the agony out of the install
[06:40] <slacktyro> THX-1138: be welcome :)
[06:40] <FordPrefect> you'll know if its going to be hard by if your browser works on startup
[06:40] <gnomefreak> XsesA: watch your language please
[06:40] <Navire> Anybody can help me with nexthop equalize?
[06:41] <XsesA> will ubunto format and all alone?
[06:41] <boink> !language
[06:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:41] <Materazzi> hey anybody know to get that MAC OSX style menu on the bottom of the screen I've in some screenshots around...?
[06:41] <boink> ubuntu installs much like Mac
[06:41] <FordPrefect> if you click install
[06:41] <XsesA> k :|
[06:41] <THX-1138> slackytyro - It' always fun only occasionally painful.
[06:41] <XsesA> it won't format my windows or something right?
[06:41] <boink> there's some pain in ubuntu ..
[06:41] <XsesA> cuz i still don't know linux ^^
[06:41] <FordPrefect> unless you tell it to
[06:42] <boink> do everything carefully, take your time during the install
[06:42] <XsesA> it will ask me where to install himself and then he will format the partition i choose?
[06:42] <FordPrefect> my recommendation is boot from the CD, try the browser
[06:42] <mcscruff> how can i add an icon to my panel so i can open a console and run a command?
[06:42] <XsesA> i will do it with a boot ofcourse
[06:42] <FordPrefect> if that doesn't work then you're going to have a more fun install
[06:42] <XsesA> just burn image isn't it?
[06:42] <THX-1138> <<< - Set dual monitors last night. irc on one monitor movies on the other    Weee!    lol
[06:42] <FordPrefect> so you'll need to know more first
[06:42] <s_spiff> slacktyro, i want to add another ip add, as in for my internet connection i nee toc onnect using a specific ip add to specific gateway. but for LAN, i need to havv a diff ip add and gateway. in windows I can do that by clicking on Advanced in the properties for the ethernet card/ TCPIp. any way to do this here?
[06:42] <Digital_Pioneer> bionoid: Are you getting the pastebin.ca one?
[06:42] <FordPrefect> if it works then go forward
[06:42] <Navire> I need patch for kernel 2.6???
[06:42] <FordPrefect> but check in here how hard dual booting is or if it is offered from the installer
[06:43] <XsesA> ok
[06:43] <XsesA> what about the swap thing u said?
[06:43] <FordPrefect> cause I don't know anything about dual booting to Windows (I have a MacBookPro that has OS X and Linux)
[06:43] <XsesA> it will do it alone?
[06:43] <lotusleaf> When I run obconf (to configure openbox) it gives this error, how do I fix: "obconf: error while loading shared libraries: libobrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[06:43] <FordPrefect> the partitioning tool will ask you what partitions oyu want
[06:43] <FordPrefect> create one "/"
[06:43] <XsesA> call it "/"?
[06:43] <THX-1138> FordPerfect - Dual booting is configured auto-magically during the install.
[06:43] <puff> FordPrefect: My machine dual-boots and I installed it from the hoary installer.
[06:44] <FordPrefect> (ignore all the other bla bla as there ARE reasons to create more partitions but irrelevant starting out)
[06:44] <black_13> boink the kernel doc is pretty terse
[06:44] <FordPrefect> create one type="swap"
[06:44] <puff> FordPrefect: And everything that can go wrong does, when I play with hardware, so if *I* got it working...
[06:44] <Digital_Pioneer> XsesA: Make two partitons for Linux: One in EXT3 labelled "/" and another in linux-swap labelled "swap"
[06:44] <black_13> !kernel
[06:44] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:44] <s_spiff> boink, how do i create another interface for the eth card apart form the default? I need to do so for the LAN
[06:44] <XsesA> swap and ext3 are the system format? like ntfs and fat32?
[06:44] <FordPrefect> (EXT3 is the filesystem linux uses in place of NTFS)
[06:45] <Digital_Pioneer> XsesA: Yes, precisely.
[06:45] <FordPrefect> (it is journalled and also a lot faster than NTFS)
[06:45] <sethk> s_spiff, you mean you want to assign an additional IP address to a NIC?
[06:45] <XsesA> i still didn't get the swap thing ^^
[06:45] <s_spiff> sethk, yup!
[06:45] <lotusleaf> anyone here who uses openbox have mercy on me and help ;) thx
[06:45] <boink> s_spliff: man interfaces
[06:45] <pike_> mcscruff: easiest way might be to click launcher then systemtools then right click on the terminal and select add to panel
[06:45] <FordPrefect> okay you know about the windows pagefile thing right?
[06:45] <derekS> i want to backup all my hidden folders (ie .*) from ~, but nothing else. cp -fR .* backupfolder doesn't work for obvious reasons, how would i do that?
[06:45] <slacktyro> s_spiff: as root, type ifconfig eth0 "youripaddress" netmask "yournetmask" -broadcast "yourbroadcast"
[06:45] <Digital_Pioneer> XsesA: I think swap has the same purpose as the Windows paging file.
[06:45] <XsesA> don't think so :(
[06:45] <FordPrefect> where windows swaps to disk
[06:45] <sethk> s_spiff, you create an alias.  such as:   ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.123.111 netmask 255.255.255.0
[06:45] <FordPrefect> okay on windows there is RAM
[06:45] <FordPrefect> and there is the pagefile
[06:45] <FordPrefect> the pagefile is a big fat file
[06:45] <DemisM> anyone use the fpit driver?
[06:45] <FordPrefect> historically there have been many bugs with it
[06:45] <Digital_Pioneer> XsesA: It's an area on the hard drive where Windows puts data that it can't find room for in memory.
[06:45] <sethk> s_spiff, that creates an IP for eth0, in addition to whatever eth0's "real" IP is.
[06:45] <FordPrefect> memory is swapped to disk as needed
[06:45] <black_13> FordPrefect ArthurDent
[06:46] <s_spiff> sethk, slacktyro thanks. will try
[06:46] <Digital_Pioneer> XsesA: It's slower, but it is much bigger.
[06:46] <FordPrefect> Linux just does the same thing with a partition instead of a file
[06:46] <Materazzi> hey anybody know to get that MAC OSX style menu on the bottom of the screen I've in some screenshots around, e.g.  http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/images/thumb/120px-Bmpx-dmc-1.jpg?
[06:46] <FordPrefect> that is theoretically more efficient
[06:46] <XsesA> oh
[06:46] <slacktyro> sethk: fell free to correct me if i'm wrong ok? i'm just a learner
[06:46] <cge> derekS: Why won't it work?
[06:46] <s_spiff> sethk, what abt the gateway?
[06:46] <XsesA> but i will do those partitions on the install, not atm on windows right?
[06:46] <sethk> FordPrefect, more accurately, linux does it with _either_ a partition or a file, or both
[06:47] <THX-1138> Materazzi: Could it be gdesklets?
[06:47] <FordPrefect> huh didn't know you could do it with the file
[06:47] <sethk> s_spiff, you have a default route to the gateway, it applies to all interfaces.
[06:47] <gnomefreak> XsesA: yes and it can walk you through it
[06:47] <slacktyro> s_spiff -broadcast "yourgateway"
[06:47] <s_spiff> slacktyro, your right, but that will config the mail ip add it hink. i remember doin the before on 5.10, but it was long time back.
[06:47] <Materazzi> THX-1138, is it a package?
[06:47] <XsesA> i can read ntfs with linux right?
[06:47] <sethk> s_spiff, you don't need a default route for each interface.  If you have two NICs, say, or as here one nic with two IPs, you still only need one default route.
[06:47] <sethk> XsesA, right
[06:47] <FordPrefect> XsesA yes but it is beta quality
[06:47] <black_13> does ubuntu use debian's kernel building system make-kpkg?
[06:47] <THX-1138> Materazzi: Take a peek i haven't tried it.
[06:47] <FordPrefect> meaning writing might not be a good idea
[06:47] <s_spiff> sethk, oks.
[06:47] <gnomefreak> FordPrefect: reading is fine
[06:47] <XsesA> i mean i got some music on ntfs system
[06:47] <sethk> FordPrefect, read is not beta.  write is beta.
[06:47] <Materazzi> THX-1138, ok tnx
[06:48] <slacktyro> s_spiff: i installed the ubuntu one hour ago, i configured my network with that :)
[06:48] <XsesA> and i will probably want to hear it from linux
[06:48] <THX-1138> !gdesklets
[06:48] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[06:48] <sethk> BRB
[06:48] <FordPrefect> NTFS is a pretty ugly filesystem
[06:48] <gnomefreak> i wouldnt call writing beta since they have yet come up with something even close to safe
[06:48] <FordPrefect> MS is considering dumping it
[06:48] <XsesA> if i download stuff with linux, the best way to get it to ntfs is burning it?
[06:48] <FordPrefect> and hs been considering it for some time
[06:48] <Dr_willis> FordPrefect,  like since befor it even came out. :P
[06:49] <FordPrefect> uhh, I'd just have a fat32 partition for that
[06:49] <slacktyro> i'll have a lunch
[06:49] <s_spiff> slacktyro, nice. it took me a month the first to to figure that out. and i still cant remember the stuff nearly a year after using ubuntu man!
[06:49] <FordPrefect> linux can read/write fat32 perfectly
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Microsoft the great "grandfather in the stuff  people dont really need" :)
[06:49] <Kejk_PL> don't use ntfs-3g for ntfs writing, I had many problems with this
[06:49] <pike_> XsesA: alot of people make a large fat32 partition to save movies and mp3s to that both linux and xp can read
[06:49] <Dr_willis> i just let xp read/write to my ext2 partions
[06:49] <Vuen> what's up #ubuntu
[06:49] <XsesA> oh that's good
[06:49] <Leftovercrack> whats going on guys
[06:49] <porkpie> Can some tell what the link is for the daily release please
[06:49] <THX-1138> Kejk` - What types of problems? - i have been considering it.
[06:50] <Vuen> is there a way to make my user password different from my root password without activating the root account?
[06:50] <cherubiel> Leftovercrack: any leftovers?
[06:50] <XsesA> so i can both write/read with windows and linux to the fat32?
[06:50] <Leftovercrack> anyone no why i cant get ubuntu to load off the live cd?
[06:50] <FordPrefect> yes
[06:50] <orbin> Dr_willis: fs-driver?
[06:50] <gnomefreak> XsesA: yes for most part
[06:50] <cherubiel> Leftovercrack: where are you stuck?
[06:50] <Kejk_PL> THX-1138: system won't star (stopping at "Checking filesystems" or something like this)
[06:50] <Leftovercrack> put the cd in
[06:50] <THX-1138> porkpie #ubuntu+1 will have the link  type !release in that channel
[06:50] <Leftovercrack> started to boot up
[06:50] <FordPrefect> I wouldn't recommend installing linux stuff on the fat32 partition (only data files) as some proggies assume case sensitivity among other things
[06:50] <XsesA> i got 55gb, how do u recommend splitting it? (how much fat32 and how much for the linux)
[06:50] <cge> Vuen: Not really, why would you want to do that?
[06:51] <Leftovercrack> and it says uncompressing linux
[06:51] <Kejk_PL> THX-1138: it works preatty good, but sometimes it makes such probles
[06:51] <Leftovercrack> ok booting from kernal
[06:51] <FordPrefect> and since fat32 doesn't support htat...there may be minor hickups
[06:51] <h0ax> is there a freebsd channel here ?
[06:51] <pike_> Vuen: basically you remove yourself from the admin group but you need at least on account on the system a member of it for sudo access
[06:51] <JDahl> Leftovercrack, is it dapper? and what architecture?
[06:51] <FordPrefect> depends on you...how much porn do you intend to put on the fat32 and play on both?
[06:51] <FordPrefect> :-)
[06:51] <Leftovercrack> dapper
[06:51] <pike_> h0ax: /j freebsd its pretty active
[06:51] <XsesA> :-)
[06:51] <THX-1138> Kejk_PL: Okay. - I won't try it. - appreciate the tip. - Ctrl-C will bypass a sticky spot n boot up.
[06:51] <XsesA> i got alot movies and mp3
[06:51] <h0ax> its hidden lol
[06:51] <XsesA> but the movies i can move only when i want to watch them also
[06:52] <XsesA> and must of them or on cds anyway
[06:52] <XsesA> how much does the lnux need/
[06:52] <XsesA> ?
[06:52] <pike_> h0ax: you have to /msg nickserv register password  and then from then on /msg nickserv identify password to login
[06:52] <cge> Vuen: What would be the advantage of doing so?
[06:52] <s_spiff> sethk, slacktyro, boink thanks ppl. worked. now having both lan and net. :D
[06:52] <Leftovercrack> anyone know?
[06:52] <Leftovercrack> why this thing wont boot?
[06:52] <Vuen> cge, i want to do that because i just don't like typing in my root password just for logging in
[06:52] <FordPrefect> XsesA it can fit on a CD (even a floppy back in the day) or take many gigs
[06:52] <FordPrefect> its up to you
[06:52] <JDahl> Leftovercrack, what architecture are you using?
[06:52] <FordPrefect> a nominal installation I'd probalby have at least 10-20gigs for
[06:53] <cge> Vuen: as opposed to just activating root?
[06:53] <gpled> what version of postfix does ubuntu use?
[06:53] <XsesA> well giving the ext3 partition 10gb will be fine?
[06:53] <Leftovercrack> x86
[06:53] <Vuen> when i ssh to my computer from elsewhere, i don't like the idea of those computers being compromised with keyloggers being able to read my root password
[06:53] <ScreaminIke> does anyone know how to use an ssh server as a secure proxy?
[06:53] <XsesA> i can give it 20
[06:53] <FordPrefect> yeah should be, just store your porn on the other parititon
[06:53] <FordPrefect> (also note that things like emails often end up on disk)
[06:53] <Leftovercrack> can you see what im typing now?
[06:53] <cge> Vuen: If you set a password for root, you can use the targetpw option in /etc/sudoers to make sudo as for the root password instead of the user password.
[06:53] <XsesA> i don't want to store movies and mp3s on the ext3 because then the windows won't be able to read it
[06:54] <cge> Vuen: In fact, you bring up a very good point.
[06:54] <FordPrefect> then thats fine
[06:54] <s_spiff> sethk, how to delete the interface i just created?
[06:54] <XsesA> 15gb for ext3 and 40gb for fat32 will be alright?
[06:54] <XsesA> oh another thing i wanted ask
[06:55] <FordPrefect> yes
[06:55] <Leftovercrack> does anyone know why i cant get this thing to boot off a live cd?
[06:55] <THX-1138> XsesA: I use Fat32 (VFAT in linux speak)
[06:55] <Leftovercrack> anyone?
[06:55] <designdream> i am going nuts trying to install ubuntu on fakeraid using dmraid.. anyone experienced?
[06:55] <XsesA> what about drivers?
[06:55] <FordPrefect> leftovercrack is it enabled in bios to boot from there?
[06:55] <pike_> XsesA: my setup is 6 gigs for / and another 20 or whatever for home 15 for everthing under / would be plenty
[06:55] <boink> apt-cache showpkg postfix .. that will give you the info about the version
[06:55] <FordPrefect> thats why I'm suggesting booting from CD first
[06:55] <Leftovercrack> yeah
[06:55] <FordPrefect> if you can get to the browser then thats a good start
[06:55] <Leftovercrack> i got to the uncompressing linux
[06:55] <THX-1138> !LVM
[06:55] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:55] <Leftovercrack> ok booting from kernal
[06:56] <FordPrefect> meaning you can boot, start using linux w/o installing
[06:56] <Leftovercrack> that how far i am
[06:56] <XsesA> pike i didn't understand ^^
[06:56] <Leftovercrack> yes
[06:56] <FordPrefect> and if the screen works and you can browse the net
[06:56] <Leftovercrack> i just cant get it to the desktop
[06:56] <Leftovercrack> what do i need to do?
[06:56] <FordPrefect> then you have at least enough drivers to do normal stuff
[06:56] <Leftovercrack> i can see anything
[06:56] <Stigi`aw> anyone know a good PHP editor with syntax checking/color highlight and maybe even preview? Pretty much similar to Ankords PHP Expert Editor 4 for Windows :)
[06:56] <FordPrefect> if you want to do things like play games you may need to grab better video drivers
[06:56] <FordPrefect> if the net doesn't work you'll have a more involved installation
[06:56] <cge> Vuen: Actually, the rootpw option is better.
[06:56] <XsesA> i can download drivers for linux from nvidia.com?
[06:56] <FordPrefect> but generally with ubuntu that isn't a problem
[06:56] <waylandbill> I'm having trouble setting up encryption on my linksys router. everytime I tell it to use a wpa shared key, I can't connect until I reset the router.
[06:57] <boink> !nvdia
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvdia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <designdream> Stigi`aw: not a fan of vim?
[06:57] <XsesA> !nvidia
[06:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:57] <lupine_85> XsesA: yes, but it's less hassle to use the packaged ones
[06:57] <FordPrefect> yeah, but you can probably go without them at first
[06:57] <Leftovercrack> does this just go to you?
[06:57] <Stigi`aw> designdream,  what's VIM?
[06:57] <XsesA> ok
[06:57] <arepie> am tired of asking this thousand times.. but i really mad with this driver.. how to repair the OpenGL from mesa to ATI ? and enable the direct randering function?
[06:57] <pike_> XsesA: its a pain to use nvidia installer youll have to redo it every time you update
[06:57] <FordPrefect> you probably don't need them until you go to do games or stuff
[06:57] <XsesA> what about the voice
[06:57] <XsesA> well games i will probably play on windows
[06:57] <FordPrefect> there is Cedega if you want to try them on lnux
[06:58] <XsesA> at least until i learn linux perfectly :P
[06:58] <FordPrefect> but they will probably perform better on winblows
[06:58] <FordPrefect> voice...you want the computer to talk to you
[06:58] <pike_> XsesA: the nvidia drivers you can install through ubuntu work fine i play quake4 etc no problem
[06:58] <FordPrefect> or you want to talk to it?
[06:58] <XsesA> no need to download then?
[06:58] <oidia> a command based ftp klient with ssl support?
[06:58] <XsesA> hehe i don't know how to say it in english tho
[06:58] <XsesA> audio :)
[06:58] <designdream> Stigi`aw: http://schlitt.info/applications/blog/index.php?/archives/488-Comfortable-PHP-editing-with-VIM-5.html
[06:59] <oidia> like lftp, but i dont have ssl support
[06:59] <XsesA> audio will work automaticly?
[06:59] <pike_> XsesA: search wiki.ubuntu.com for nvidia or mp3 or whatever it will tell you how to install using the recommended methods
[06:59] <FordPrefect> oh you will know by if it makes noise
[06:59] <Leftovercrack> anyone know why i cant boot from cd?
[06:59] <FordPrefect> generally yes
[06:59] <arepie> ubuntu-driver
[06:59] <Leftovercrack> and yes the bios are set up
[06:59] <Leftovercrack> anyone?
[06:59] <Leftovercrack> !?
[06:59] <XsesA> i understood that ubuntu comes with almost everything in it
[06:59] <Stigi`aw> Seems nice designdream, thanks alot :)
[06:59] <XsesA> like open office and stuff like that
[06:59] <FordPrefect> there are some goofy things with certain programs that lock the audio all to themself (freaking GAIM)
[06:59] <XsesA> is that right?
[07:00] <Leftovercrack> does anyone know why i cant get to the live cd?
[07:00] <Leftovercrack> why i cant see the desktop
[07:00] <Leftovercrack> ?
[07:00] <FordPrefect> well no...there are probably a bazillion packages that you can install
[07:00] <Leftovercrack> anyone?
[07:00] <FordPrefect> but it will have most of what you need to get started probably
[07:00] <Willster> did you burn it as a bootable cd with whatever software you used?
[07:00] <cge> Vuen: So, you just need to add rootpw to the Defaults line of /etc/sudoers (using visudo), and then sudo should ask for your root password instead of your user password.
[07:00] <XsesA> i'll need to download things?
[07:00] <designdream> Stigi`aw: i love vim with php...especially if you copy some of those guys settings and are a svn user
[07:00] <Leftovercrack> anyone?
[07:00] <slacktyro> is anyone using irssi?
[07:00] <FordPrefect> no you just use hte package manger
[07:00] <XsesA> is there mirc on it? D:
[07:01] <FordPrefect> it will download and install them for you
[07:01] <FordPrefect> Yes it is called XChat
[07:01] <FordPrefect> I do not remember whether it was installed automatically
[07:01] <XsesA> oh i understand
[07:01] <XsesA> i will not need to look for that on the web
[07:01] <Dark3Lite> hey
[07:01] <Leftovercrack> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY I CANT USE THE LIVE CD?
[07:01] <FordPrefect> don't use the gnome-xchat, just use "XChat"
[07:01] <XsesA> there is some kind of manager for downloading?
[07:01] <designdream> Stigi`aw: if you want to get some of the features of vim without the extreme learning curve.. try 'cream' http://cream.sourceforge.net/
[07:01] <Leftovercrack> I REALLY NEED HELP GUYS
[07:01] <Dark3Lite> do any of you know if the are problems with Linksys network cards
[07:01] <boink> dont' we all?
[07:01] <FordPrefect> no there is a browser thingy that will do that for you
[07:01] <Dark3Lite> and ubuntu
[07:01] <Stigi`aw> designdream, Okay I will, thanks :)
[07:01] <pike_> slacktyro: yes
[07:02] <Vuen> cge, yeah, i've done it before. i was just hoping i could do that without activating root
[07:02] <Vuen> just because people seem to recommend not activating root
[07:02] <XsesA> well rly thanks
[07:02] <Leftovercrack> ANYONE KNOW WHY I CANT USE THE LIVE CD?
[07:02] <boink> fix your keyboard
[07:02] <Leftovercrack> OR WHY I CANT SEE THE DESKTOP?
[07:02] <FordPrefect> once you get more sophisticated you can add other repositories
[07:02] <XsesA> oh should i do the fat32 partition now or at the installation of ubuntu? (btw, can i install ubuntu on fat32 system)
[07:02] <Willster> yes that's a prerequisite
[07:02] <FordPrefect> but the default ones have what you need
[07:02] <FordPrefect> you can do it at the installation of ubuntu
[07:02] <FordPrefect> it knows how to create it
[07:02] <FordPrefect> no do not install it on fat32
[07:02] <pike_> Leftovercrack: any errors?
[07:02] <kmu> slacktyro, yep
[07:02] <XsesA> ok :)
[07:03] <FordPrefect> some things want a case sensitive filesystem
[07:03] <Leftovercrack> NO NO ERRORS
[07:03] <FordPrefect> or assume it
[07:03] <cge> Vuen: There is no reason to not activate root. The _potential_ problem is in logging in as root.
[07:03] <Leftovercrack> just says it uncompressed linux and will boot from kernal
[07:03] <cge> Vuen: or using su
[07:03] <lupine_85> "su root" is so handy when sudo breaks
[07:03] <Willster> leftovercrack, what did you use to burn the linux iso to disc?
[07:03] <Leftovercrack> thats all it says
[07:03] <lupine_85> sudo is easy to break
[07:03] <pike_> Leftovercrack: are you wanting to install or just use livecd?
[07:03] <Leftovercrack> nero
[07:03] <XsesA> oh about fat32 system.. i know it can't work with files larger than 2gb, but can it transfer files bigger than 2gb?
[07:03] <Leftovercrack> i just want to use the live cd
[07:03] <cge> lupine_85: How?
[07:04] <cge> lupine_85: As long as you are editing sudoers with visudo, that is.
[07:04] <XsesA> like if i download something that is 3gb to do fat32 system, can i just copy it to the ntfs or ext3?
[07:04] <slacktyro> pike, kmu i forgot how to change the screen for other channel or private chats
[07:04] <lupine_85> cge: or if the date, hostname, or some permissions change unexpectedly
[07:04] <pike_> slacktyro: alt-1 or 2 etc
[07:04] <Leftovercrack> anyone?
[07:04] <lupine_85> + a huge number of other ways of breaking it that I haven't discovered yet
[07:04] <SwissPhoenix> Dear folks, I own a notebook with a ipw2200 installed - runs fine, but sometimes it suddently changes the ESSID of the wireless card, though I don't have any roaming daemon running (at least none I know of). Can this behaviour be configured somewhere? (and possibly disabled?)
[07:04] <cge> lupine_85: The date doesn't seem to break it, actually.
[07:05] <lupine_85> it's broken it here, before - though not entirely sure how
[07:05] <cge> lupine_85: It appears that it only breaks it in one terminal.
[07:05] <lupine_85> I wasn't in a hurry to replicate it
[07:05] <nosklo> Leftovercrack, there is an option that says "Check CD for defects", have you tried it already?
[07:05] <cge> lupine_85: I had that problem before as well.
[07:05] <slacktyro> pike_: ty man, i was a long time using xchat so forgot the little i knew
[07:05] <lupine_85> switching to a different terminal is not a fix
[07:05] <slacktyro> pike_: how can i close some of this screens?
[07:05] <nosklo> Leftovercrack, it is the third option in the livecd menu.
[07:06] <pike_> slacktyro: you can /leave a channel
[07:06] <Willster> not sure if he's even getting it to boot, nosklo
[07:06] <FordPrefect> XsesA yes
[07:06] <FordPrefect> that isn't a problem
[07:06] <pike_> slacktyro: im not sure offhand how to close pm windows
[07:06] <lupine_85>  /part isn't it?
[07:06] <slacktyro> pike_: ty again :)
[07:06] <XsesA> ok thanks
[07:06] <nosklo> Willster, he said the CD uncompressed linux and is booting from the kernel
[07:06] <slacktyro> pike_: sry for many doubts
[07:06] <XsesA> i am still in dillema how to use the 55gb :P
[07:06] <Willster> ahh
[07:06] <Willster> my bad
[07:06] <ronnylinux> mount to NFS server '192.168.1.33' failed.
[07:06] <FordPrefect> and 99% of things probably will behave fine on the fat32...its just the ocassional thing that will assume that BLABLA.txt != blabla.txt
[07:07] <XsesA> oh i read some stuff about mounting ntfs?!
[07:07] <ronnylinux> hi guys i typed this command: mount -t nfs 192.168.1.33://algo /home/ronny/ronnyfiles  and got this message: mount to NFS server '192.168.1.33' failed.
[07:07] <ronnylinux> whcat can i do
[07:07] <sethk> ronnylinux, you didn't give it a mount point
[07:07] <sethk> ronnylinux, oh, wait
[07:07] <Willster> yes XsesA.....if you go to lifehacker's website they have the ubuntu hack to mount NTFS
[07:07] <sethk> ronnylinux, sorry, lag
[07:07] <lupine_85> s/he did
[07:07] <lupine_85> use the right IP?
[07:07] <sethk> ronnylinux, make sure NFS is running on the server and client
[07:07] <XsesA> i don't get what is mounting ntfs :|
[07:08] <Leftovercrack> ok so does anyone know if i can run games thru linux?
[07:08] <sethk> Leftovercrack, some, but it's not what you want to be doing.
[07:08] <Leftovercrack> hrmm
[07:08] <pike_> XsesA: nfts is traditionally read only but there is write support that is supposed to work well now. there is always the chance of it messing up your partition though. in linux partitions are mounted to directories instead of like having a c:\
[07:08] <Leftovercrack> like what
[07:08] <black_13> does ubuntu use the same kernel build system as debian or not?
[07:08] <FordPrefect> XsesA on UNIX related OSes you "mount" filesystems into places
[07:08] <Leftovercrack> can i run css and bf2?
[07:09] <FordPrefect> so I could create a dir /mnt/foobar
[07:09] <FordPrefect> and mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/foobar
[07:09] <sethk> FordPrefect, sure,
[07:09] <gilesw> ya
[07:09] <FordPrefect> you MIGHT want to grab a book like UNIX for dumies
[07:09] <ronnylinux> sethk, how can i know if they are running?
[07:09] <nosklo> black_13, yes
[07:09] <sethk> FordPrefect, not a very good name, but you could
[07:09] <XsesA> so i must mount ntfs to read it?
[07:09] <Willster> Leftovercrack....i just ran across a company that ports bf2 to linux...but it costs a subscription fee (5$/mo)
[07:09] <FordPrefect> yeah I was explaining to XsesA
[07:09] <sethk> ronnylinux, use netstat, make sure it is listening for NFS connections.
[07:09] <FordPrefect> yeah its like assigning a drive letter
[07:09] <FordPrefect> only its a string
[07:09] <XsesA> i do it in the linux after the setup?
[07:09] <nosklo> Leftovercrack, if it says the CD is ok, try choosing a different screen resolution on boot, using F4
[07:10] <Leftovercrack> but can you install them like you would is windows?
[07:10] <FordPrefect> there should be a bootmenu
[07:10] <Leftovercrack> so you can run css and bf2
[07:10] <sethk> Leftovercrack, no
[07:10] <seamus7> Hi all .... Anyone available to help me with a hopefully quick fix to my repositories list? I get the following two errors: 1) Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Package s.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:10] <seamus7> 2) W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures co uldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[07:10] <Leftovercrack> so then id have to duelboot?
[07:10] <XsesA> i must mount all my partitions or only the ones i want it to read
[07:10] <sethk> Leftovercrack, if you need windows, then you'll have to dual boot
[07:10] <XsesA> cuz i got c: which windows is on it, i don't need to read it from linux
[07:10] <BCMacbook> Hello, I'm having trouble with add/remove as well as the update manager, when i run them from the app menu or system/admin (respectively) they start launching but then never do. (by start i mean the app switcher at the bottom says "starting appname").. anyone know what is going on? thanks
[07:11] <kromel> seamus7, I get the same No_PUBKEY message
[07:11] <sethk> XsesA, no need to mount anything you don't intend to use.  strange question
[07:11] <seamus7> kromel: I think maybe I needed to append a public key to some file but didn't realize it at the time.
[07:11] <XsesA> umm ok ^^ sorry for being lil dumb :)
[07:11] <kromel> seamus7, I can't find the pub key
[07:12] <BCMacbook> this is a brand new install on a p2-500
[07:12] <XsesA> i write the mount command on linux and it will just recognize it?
[07:12] <sethk> and what people said about windows isn't really true.  in windows you mount network drives.  they just don't use the word mount, so that you'll be afraid to use anything other than windows
[07:12] <black_13> i attempt to build the 2.6.10 kernel using make-kpkg i get {standard input}:720: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
[07:12] <Dr_willis> sethk,  mount sounds so 'dirty' :)
[07:12] <totall_6_7> LOL
[07:13] <Willster> lmao
[07:13] <seamus7> kromel: oh that's what I was hoping someone knew (where the public key was and where to get it) .... in that case I wonder what the fix is and if many others are getting it?
[07:13] <Vuen> haha Dr_willis
[07:13] <Vuen> i like linux because it lets me type man mount
[07:13] <pike_> XsesA: best thing would be to come back here when you want to mount it and ask its a little involved.
[07:14] <BCMacbook> anyone?
[07:14] <Nem1> what?
[07:14] <ricanelite> Hello Guys!! I need help to fix my screen resolution on my computer
[07:14] <ricanelite> How can I go about that?
[07:14] <kuja> How do you simply download desired packages from apt, rather than installing them? I would like to say "apt-get download some-package" and have it download the package and its dependencies, but not install it.
[07:14] <ScreaminIke> does anyone know how to use an ssh server as an http/socksv5 proxy?
[07:14] <jackrazz> hey everyone
[07:15] <orbin> Vuen: #unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; > finger ; mount ; fsck ; > more ; yes ; umount ; sleep
[07:15] <THX-1138> kuja - synaptic has that option
[07:15] <Vuen> kuja: apt-get --download-only
[07:15] <jackrazz> does rythmbox/ubuntu have an equalizer?
[07:15] <kuja> Vuen: What command would I use?
[07:15] <kuja> install?
[07:16] <Blinny> Are there tools for hot-swapping scsi drives in a hardware RAID setup?
[07:16] <boink> xmms has an equalizer
[07:16] <Vuen> orbin, lol
[07:16] <pike_> seamus7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages for seveas's repo i think.. if that helps
[07:16] <jackrazz> hey boink, what is xmms?
[07:16] <kuja> Vuen: I did an apt-get clean, and I kind of need the packages back, cause I need to move them home.
[07:16] <boink> xmms is a media player
[07:16] <jackrazz> video?
[07:16] <jackrazz> oh, ok
[07:16] <boink> mostly audio
[07:16] <Vuen> kuja, yeah i think
[07:16] <seamus7> pike_: oh ok thx I'll check that out
[07:16] <kuja> jackrazz: Probably the closely immitated winamp
[07:16] <Vuen> apt-get install --download-only <package>
[07:16] <jackrazz> so it could be a replacement for rythmbox
[07:16] <seamus7> kromel: did you see pike's message above?
[07:16] <Vuen> try it with something small to see if it works
[07:17] <dark_light> my gtk is configured to hightlight the unknown words ("typos"), is there any way i can change this?
[07:17] <ricanelite> can anyone tell me how to fix my Screen Resolution?
[07:17] <jackrazz> ok, thanks
[07:17] <kuja> jackrazz: I personally would say amaroK is the greatest audio player ever.
[07:17] <Nem1> ricanelite, are you there?
[07:17] <jackrazz> I'm more of an itunes type
[07:17] <jackrazz> amorok, i've heard of that
[07:17] <kuja> Vuen: I have the packages installed already, and it'll just say it's already installed, regardless of the download only option.
[07:17] <house> jackrazz try banshee
[07:17] <kromel> seamus7, no, looking at it now
[07:17] <Vuen> oh
[07:18] <Vuen> i'm confused, you want to redownload the debs but you already have the packages installed?
[07:18] <Vuen> ...why?
[07:18] <BCMacbook> .. :(
[07:18] <jackrazz> house, I like banshee, but it doesn't have an equalizer plugin, right???
[07:18] <Willster> kuja, i agree....i am loving amarok so far
[07:18] <Nem1> ricanelite,From preferences select screen resolution.
[07:18] <MartinOz> does anyone know a way to burn audio cd from .m4a files ?
[07:18] <house> it does
[07:18] <kuja> Vuen: Yes, the packages are installed. But I need the debs. They're installed to my pen drive. I need to move these home (where I do not have a net connection)
[07:18] <kuja> I frequently do a `apt-get clean` to conserve space on my pen drive.
[07:18] <house> jackrazz what version are you running ?
[07:18] <jackrazz> does amarok have an equalizer
[07:18] <Vuen> kuja, i see
[07:18] <Vuen> hmm
[07:18] <jackrazz> the version in edgy
[07:19] <kuja> jackrazz: Yes, it does.
[07:19] <jackrazz> hang on and i'll tell you
[07:19] <ricanelite> no i cant only select 1024x786 and before I could use a 1280x1024
[07:19] <Willster> jackrazz, yes it has one
[07:19] <kuja> amaroK has anything you could really imagine for an audio player
[07:19] <jackrazz> ok, hang on
[07:19] <house> hmm this one should already have the euqal...
[07:19] <gortiz> !xgl
[07:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:19] <jackrazz> just shut down rhtymbox and started up banshee
[07:19] <MartinOz> amarok is excellent, but i can't burn .m4a files to audio cd !
[07:19] <Nem1> ricanelite what distribution are you using?
[07:20] <ricanelite> Ubuntu Linux
[07:20] <TmWrk_Quil> kmaynard: back from lunch here
[07:20] <ricanelite> and using KDE
[07:20] <jackrazz> where is the equalizer in banshee, do i need to install a plugin?
[07:20] <kuja> jackrazz: GTK and media is really horrible.
[07:20] <kuja> KDE is better IMO, in the media department.
[07:20] <kuja> GNOME*
[07:20] <Vuen> kuja, you could use apt-get install --print-uris <packages>
[07:20] <ricanelite> right now I'm running Ubuntu 5 but if I upgrade to the lastest which i think is 6 will that fix it?
[07:20] <Vuen> then feed that into wget
[07:20] <MartinOz> can anyone help burning .m4a to audio cd ?
[07:20] <kuja> GNOME media sucks, I mean to say
[07:21] <jackrazz> Willster, where is the equalizer in banshee?
[07:21] <profoX`> whats a good IDE for php development? not gedit :) something a little more advanced
[07:21] <Vuen> i wonder if this would work: apt-get install --print-uris <packages> | wget
[07:21] <kuja> Vuen: Same thing, the message is given.
[07:21] <ScreaminIke> profox: idle?
[07:21] <cge> profoX`: GVim
[07:21] <Nem1> ricanelite:maybe yes i also use 6 and my card is working properly
[07:21] <Vuen> hmph
[07:21] <gilesw> i use eclipse profoX`
[07:21] <jackrazz> virtually all of my music library in in apple lossless format right now
[07:21] <dark_light> oops it was only a configuration of xchat, sorry
[07:21] <Willster> jackrzz, i'm not sure...i haven't used it
[07:21] <gilesw> it's the industry standard ide
[07:22] <gilesw> whatever language
[07:22] <Vuen> kuja, maybe aptitude will do it instead of apt-get
[07:22] <ricanelite> i know there was a way in the terminal which i did before i had to reinstall Ubuntu on my machine which fix the problem
[07:22] <kuja> Vuen: Good idea
[07:22] <jackrazz> ok, i just loaded it up and dont see it, but I'll check their web site for plugins
[07:22] <Nem1> ricanelite:i do not know.I am new.I dont know many things yet.
[07:22] <kuja> Before I forget, I need MP3s working on RythmBox... maybe ubotu knows :P
[07:23] <kuja> !mp3
[07:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:23] <jackrazz> does amarok have an equalizer?
[07:23] <kuja> err, sorry about that
[07:23] <jackrazz> or is it just xmms
[07:23] <profoX`> cge: no gvim, i dont like to use gvim for this kind of things. personally.. :) i was thinking about eclipse already like gilesw said.. but maybe there are some other tips I could take a look at
[07:23] <BCMacbook> guys.. anyone?... i really need to get this thing going..
[07:23] <Willster> jackrazz, yes amarok has a equalizer and is very full-featured
[07:23] <pitt0071> anyone owns a inspiron 9300 running ubuntu?
[07:23] <black_13> would versions of gcc affect how to build the kernel?
[07:24] <pitt0071> or any inspiron with those dell buttons in front...
[07:24] <jackrazz> automatix will install those resticted formats also, along with skype, google earth, and so on.
[07:24] <Decadent> is there any program as gocr but with a gui??
[07:24] <jackrazz> thanks willster
[07:24] <jackrazz> I'll check that out.
[07:24] <Willster> jackrazz, i believe you can get amarok through automatix as well
[07:24] <LjL> Decadent: Kooka has a GUI and supports both gocr and ocrad
[07:24] <Willster> one of the newer/newest versions
[07:24] <kuja> Vuen: What... the... aptitude is a bit more helpful in the downloading part, except it gives errors. Saying that the file is read only and it can't get it.
[07:24] <Decadent> ok thanks :)
[07:24] <krunchi> any one wanna help me regarding switch over to ubuntu
[07:24] <LjL> Decadent: i see there's a gocr-gtk packages as well, if you're on gnome
[07:24] <cge> profoX`: I don't know. I just use vim for everything.
[07:25] <aLPHa_LeaK>  lo
[07:25] <cge> profoX`: Unless I feel like using emacs instead
[07:25] <Vuen> kuja, damn, that's really wierd
[07:25] <Vuen> i don't really use aptitude
[07:25] <profoX`> cge: shh :) before everyone goes vim > emacs and emacs > vim
[07:26] <kuja> I don't either
[07:26] <Decadent> yeah I'm in gnome ill check them out
[07:26] <jackrazz> how does amarok do with gnome/gdk??
[07:26] <Decadent> thanks
[07:26] <jackrazz> ok?
[07:26] <LjL> jackrazz: it should.
[07:26] <LjL> jackrazz: many use it on gnome
[07:26] <profoX`> jackrazz: amarok works fine in gnome
[07:26] <profoX`> it starts up a bit slower than in kde
[07:26] <profoX`> because it needs to load in some libs
[07:26] <Vuen> yeah, it works fine in gnome
[07:26] <jackrazz> ok, I'm gonna give it a try.
[07:26] <kuja> Which gstreamer plugin supports mp3?
[07:26] <jackrazz> irc is great...long live irc
[07:26] <Willster> lol here here
[07:26] <profoX`> Listen is also a nice gnome alternative that looks abit like amarok, but i havent tried it yet
[07:27] <kuja> I only want to get the gstreamer package I need
[07:27] <Vuen> i think they renamed it from amaroK to Amarok because they want to make it useable on both
[07:27] <Vuen> as opposed to making it seem attached to kde
[07:27] <ScreaminIke> does anyone know how to use an ssh server as an http/socksv5 proxy?
[07:27] <Willster> speaking of which, i'm still running the stock KDE release for kubuntu....it worth updating to newest release?
[07:28] <Vuen> ScreaminIke, i said five minutes ago
[07:28] <jackrazz> just wondering, does using a kde app consume that much more memory for the libs or is it pretty minimal?
[07:28] <kuja> Vuen: Well, amarok is written using the Qt toolkit, so that already says a lot about KDE.
[07:28] <Vuen> but i got disconnected, maybe you didn't get it
[07:28] <Willster> kubuntu 6.06
[07:28] <Tonren> ScreaminIke: connect with this command: ssh remoteserver.com -D 8080; then set your browser to proxy as localhost:8080
[07:28] <kuja> I usually don't touch KDE, it's not as smooth looking as any of the GNOME themes I see.
[07:28] <kuja> I only use amaroK cause its so damn nice! :)
[07:28] <Vuen> ScreaminIke, to tunnel http through ssh, install privoxy on the server, then ssh to the server and tunnel 8118, then set the browser proxy to localhost:8118
[07:29] <jackrazz> kuja, what is qt as it relates to gnome, any relation at all?
[07:29] <kuja> Qt is to KDE as Gtk is to GNOME
[07:29] <Vuen> ScreaminIke, to tunnel socks5, you'll need a socks5 proxy. i don't know of any other than tor
[07:29] <kuja> Qt is the toolkit that KDE uses, developed by Trolltech. Gtk is a toolkit used primarily by GNOME applications.
[07:30] <kuja> The KDE base is written in Qt, just as the GNOME base is written in GTK
[07:30] <jackrazz> synaptic is busy installing amarok as I type(:
[07:30] <jackrazz> ok kuja, thanks
[07:30] <ScreaminIke> thx, tonren
[07:30] <kuja> If you're on a slower computer like mine, you'll notice that Qt is significantly faster than Gtk.
[07:30] <Tonren> ScreaminIke: No prob!  I'll mail you a bill
[07:30] <kuja> Though, I prefer the "smoothness" of the Gtk looks
[07:30] <Willster> kuja, i kept having stability problems with gnome.....i find it a bit more visually appealing out of the box as well....but with some customization i am really liking KDE
[07:30] <kent> is it possible to easely share a printer connected to Ubuntu  to a windows computer on the lan?
[07:30] <Vuen> kent, yep
[07:30] <Willster> plus i use quite a few (if not the majority) K-apps
[07:31] <jackrazz> No problem, I have an Athlon 64 2800 with 1GB RAM
[07:31] <jackrazz> so i should be ok
[07:31] <Vuen> kent, install the printer, install samba
[07:31] <kent> Vuen: how? I want to do it from the desktop,  im not very fund of terminals..  click and play is my game :)
[07:31] <Vuen> then add it on the windows machine and add the driver manually
[07:31] <ScreaminIke> hrm... not working, though
[07:31] <kuja> I have a celeron 2.2GHz with 512 ram... sucks to be me
[07:31] <Vuen> kent, are you using gnome or kde?
[07:31] <Willster> heh
[07:31] <kent> Vuen: do I need to configure samba manually?
[07:31] <kent> Vuen: gnome.
[07:31] <Vuen> then yes. gnome sucks.
[07:31] <antonio_Z> ayuda en spaol
[07:32] <kent> *Grr
[07:32] <jackrazz> anyone here use a backup program that can do a full OS backup?
[07:32] <antonio_Z>  me pueden dar un canal
[07:32] <Vuen> they try to simplify it for you, but really they remove all sorts of options that you really do need
[07:32] <rpedro> !es
[07:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:32] <kuja> Right now I'm pretty ticked off that the guy I paied to build my computer didn't give me a graphics card. He left me to die with the onboard card.
[07:32] <kuja> onboard graphics, rather.
[07:32] <kuja> 64MB onboard, I think?
[07:33] <antonio_Z> thanks ubotu
[07:33] <Willster> ouch
[07:33] <slacktyro> hi all, i got the sounds working
[07:33] <ScreaminIke> oh... wait... it is
[07:33] <ScreaminIke> :)
[07:33] <kuja> So much for 3D acceleration
[07:33] <Willster> kuja, integrated intel or somethin similiar?
[07:33] <slacktyro> but there's a problem, if i click at mixer to change something, everything stop to work(about sound)
[07:33] <kuja> Willster: I'm not good on hardware, but it's a VIA chipset
[07:33] <Willster> ah
[07:34] <Willster> i should read more thoroughly....getting tired though LOL
[07:34] <kuja> However, the "via" xorg driver doesn't work, it defaults to the "vesa" driver.
[07:34] <LjL> kuja: vesa is bad...
[07:34] <kuja> Obviously
[07:34] <Willster> yeah i would think so
[07:34] <kuja> LjL: No 3D acceleration, *big* problem.
[07:34] <LjL> kuja: no *2D* acceleration even
[07:35] <Willster> i was really happy when i found out the latest release had support for my vid car and wireless right out of the box
[07:35] <kane77> hi, how can I install flash player?
[07:35] <XsesA> hello, it's me again :)
[07:35] <kane77> *firefox plugin
[07:35] <balzac> hello
[07:35] <kuja> kane77: Try installing through EasyUbuntu or Automatix, they're great.
[07:36] <XsesA> some1 just told me that if windows recognizes the 55gb ntfs so i won't be able to format it in order to install linux
[07:36] <balzac> I'm trying to install samba on breezy badger
[07:36] <kane77> kuja, does that install it from source?
[07:36] <pitt0071> sound volume... how to make master controlling master mono?
[07:36] <balzac> it won't install smbfs because of a package dependency
[07:36] <kuja> kane77: Flash is not open source.
[07:36] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[07:36] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:36] <slacktyro> pitt0071: try alsamixer
[07:36] <kuja> It just does the installing *and* configuring for you.
[07:37] <XsesA> anyone?
[07:37] <jrib> ubotu: tell kane77 about flash
[07:37] <kane77> kuja, I mean from the .so that you can download from adobe page?
[07:37] <pitt0071> slacktyro, im in there just now
[07:37] <LjL> kane77: ".so" is definitely not source, fyi. ".so" is a shared library
[07:37] <kuja> You can do that. That's not a very difficult process. That's not a "source"
[07:37] <slacktyro> XsesA: do you wanna only have linux, or dual boot?
[07:37] <XsesA> dual boot
[07:38] <kane77> LjL, yes that's what I meant... sorry..
[07:38] <Willster> maybe a n00b question....but when i'm running Azureus i don't get access to TCP/UDP ports unless i run it under root access
[07:38] <Willster> how do you change that?
[07:38] <slacktyro> pitt0071: depending of your sound card there'll be a couple of options there
[07:38] <kane77> but the problem is I run 64 bit version.. and it says it cannot install it on my comp...
[07:38] <XsesA> any1? :|
[07:38] <pitt0071> slacktyro, it is just a sigmatel which ships with dells...
[07:38] <LjL> kane77: that's correct, you can't use flash on 64bit AFAIK
[07:39] <krunchi192> can anybody help me about shifting to ubuntu, please help
[07:39] <LjL> !helpme
[07:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:39] <slacktyro> XsesA: install the linux at ex3 partition, create one for swap and run it
[07:39] <kane77> LjL, isnt there a command for forcing 32 instead?
[07:39] <XsesA> the ubuntu will do it alone on install isn't he?
[07:39] <kuja> Ah great, the gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 plugin is great.
[07:39] <XsesA> gahh i am downloading 64bit version, i won't be able to run flash?
[07:39] <slacktyro> XsesA: it'll do most part alone but sometimes you'll have to guide it
[07:39] <piratepenguin> what bootloader does the ubuntu livecd use? grub? isolinux?
[07:40] <Willster> grub
[07:40] <LjL> kane77: i don't know, i'm running 32 bit. there are various ways for running 32-bit software on the 64-bit version of ubuntu, but i don't know about them, and i'm not sure they're straightforward
[07:40] <XsesA> ok but is it possible to do that?
[07:40] <XsesA> cuz it's physiclly the same hard disk
[07:40] <XsesA> just different partitions
[07:40] <Nomiss> hi, I am trying to run a small opengl/glut program I wrote. It worked last week but now i get this error: (freeglut (./a.out): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0') that's stange since I do not remember changing any configuration. someone can help?
[07:40] <slacktyro> XsesA: install in other partitions, there won't be problem
[07:40] <XsesA> ok
[07:41] <XsesA> in the install
[07:41] <johnficca> hi can someone tell me the command to run to make a file executable?
[07:41] <slacktyro> sry pitt0071 i don't much about that
[07:41] <XsesA> there is option for fat32 format also?
[07:41] <XsesA> cuz i want to make part of it fat32 so both windows and linux will be able to read\write
[07:41] <LjL> johnficca: "chmod +x file"
[07:41] <kane77> johnficca, chmod +x file
[07:41] <slacktyro> the root partition will be ex3 file system
[07:41] <XsesA> and about boot, how i do the dual boot thing?
[07:41] <johnficca> thanks
[07:41] <piratepenguin> johnficca, chmod +x file
[07:41] <piratepenguin> oops.. way too late
[07:41] <slacktyro> XsesA: the grub will do that
[07:42] <Willster> XsesA, you can configure both linux to read/write NTFS and windows to read/write ext3
[07:42] <XsesA> grub?
[07:42] <XsesA> i understood that writing to ntfs can mess it up
[07:42] <XsesA> it still beta
[07:42] <Willster> yes, you're right....i've had issues with it myself....however if you're only reading data it's generally quite stable
[07:43] <Willster> haven't had any issues writing data from windows to ext3, though
[07:43] <slacktyro> anyone is getting a bug at sound mixer?
[07:43] <Willster> maybe have a ext3 partition for linux, ntfs for windows....and a fat32 for both?
[07:43] <XsesA> willster
[07:43] <Huey> how do you get emacs to save the font settings i've selected?
[07:43] <XsesA> i will use the fat32
[07:43] <XsesA> just if i will download some music to the linux
[07:43] <Huey> i keep having to re-select the font at emacs startup
[07:44] <XsesA> so i will be able to hear it on windows too
[07:44] <XsesA> how u write from windows to ext3?
[07:44] <LjL> !fuse
[07:44] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:44] <XsesA> from what i read, the windows can't even recognize this partition
[07:44] <LjL> whops sorry
[07:45] <LjL> XsesA: there are third party tools
[07:45] <kuja> XsesA: If all fails, perhaps cygwin may work
[07:45] <Willster> XsesA....just a sec and i'll try and find the link for the one I use
[07:45] <LjL> google "ext2 windows" (or "ext3 windows" possibly)
[07:45] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: some software can do it
[07:45] <XsesA> ok thanks
[07:45] <Willster> yeah or '"ext3 ubuntu lifehacker"
[07:45] <XsesA> iit's safe?
[07:45] <kuja> *Maybe* with cygwin you could mount your ext3 partition... maybe?
[07:45] <LjL> XsesA: couldn't swear on it.
[07:46] <kuja> Well, ext3 is safe to write it. It's open source, documented, so the filesystem bridge is safely implemented in most said applications that have the feature.
[07:46] <Shadow_mil2> anyone here use xchat?
[07:46] <Willster> yeah....usually what i do is just copy files....make sure it was successful...then when i log into different OS delete from there
[07:46] <kuja> NTFS on the other hand... well...
[07:46] <kuja> What I do is, I boot into my handy Dapper LiveCD :)
[07:46] <XsesA> i can read all from linux
[07:46] <kuja> Shadow_mil2: I do
[07:46] <XsesA> right?
[07:46] <kuja> XsesA: Correct
[07:46] <Shadow_mil2> I can't get xchat spell checker to work
[07:46] <Willster> Shadow_mil2, i'm using xchat
[07:47] <XsesA> if i'll want to read something from the windows i'll just put it on the fat32 partition then
[07:47] <kuja> Hm, sorry. I don't use the spell checker.
[07:47] <Willster> hmm, actually now that i check i have it enabled but it's not working
[07:47] <kuja> I like to leave spell checkers to word processors :)
[07:47] <Willster> lol
[07:47] <XsesA> well thank you
[07:47] <gilesw> there's a sweet ext3 driver for windows
[07:47] <Shadow_mil2> Willster: yeah I have the same problem
[07:47] <gilesw> works amazingly well
[07:47] <Shadow_mil2> Willster: package bug?
[07:47] <XsesA> from what i understand the install should be very easy and the installation will guide me
[07:48] <XsesA> after that i'll come here and ask for more help :P
[07:48] <kuja> Hell, there's even GmailFS support on Windows, IIRC. It'd be crazy not to have a transparent support driver for ext3 :)
[07:48] <sidny4> how do I make ubuntu log me in automatically at start-up?
[07:48] <slacktyro> look at the problem i got, my sound is woking as long as i don't try to use a mixer
[07:48] <Willster> Shadow_mil2, maybe, what version are you running? (i'm on 2.6.6)
[07:48] <slacktyro> what can be that?
[07:48] <Shadow_mil2> XChat 2.6.6
[07:48] <kuja> Willster: Maybe X-Chat has no dictionary to check your spelling against.
[07:48] <XsesA> oh last thing, do i have to do anything for the boot to work? (i want it to ask me which OS i want to use that time
[07:48] <kuja> I'd try googling it.
[07:49] <Shadow_mil2> Willster: though id *did* on 2.6.6 before
[07:49] <kuja> XsesA: GRUB is good for that.
[07:49] <cherubiel> XsesA: install a bootloader
[07:49] <kuja> sudo apt-get install grub
[07:49] <Shadow_mil2> Then I had to do a reinstall
[07:49] <XsesA> what's grub?
[07:49] <kuja> A boot loader.
[07:49] <XsesA> can u explain to me what to do after i install the linux?
[07:49] <XsesA> what will happen if i'll just open the computer after installing linux
[07:49] <root__> how do i kill a user in my computer????
[07:49] <cherubiel> XsesA: its part of the insallation
[07:49] <kuja> Yes, install an IRC client then connect back to this channel :)
[07:49] <DaedalusvX> is there any word on how ubuntu's dealing with the debian firefox fork?
[07:50] <kuja> Right after you install!
[07:50] <sidny4> how do I make ubuntu log me in automatically at start-up?
[07:50] <Crippy-Boy> root_ are they logged in via ssh? or just logged in locally?
[07:50] <XsesA> ohh ok
[07:50] <XsesA> so the boot thing should be done on the installation?
[07:50] <bsytko> Hello, does anyone know what the default font is in KDE, I am using Ubuntu, but I run a few KDE apps (Konversation, amaroK), and I want to change their font that they use for menu's, and I don't know what it is
[07:50] <root__> ssh coz my GUI crashed
[07:50] <XsesA> so i'll just do it slow and read whatever he sais :)
[07:50] <kuja> XsesA: Are you trying to dual boot with Windows and Ubuntu?
[07:50] <XsesA> thank you
[07:50] <Crippy-Boy> kill their ssh session.
[07:50] <XsesA> yep
[07:50] <root__> i stoppped gdm but i still see bad picture on my screen
[07:50] <kuja> XsesA: Both on the same harddrive?
[07:50] <XsesA> yep
[07:50] <root__> i have two PCs
[07:51] <XsesA> differenct partitions
[07:51] <Shadow_mil2> root__: can't kill a user, only the user's processes
[07:51] <kuja> XsesA: Is Windows already installed on that harddrive?
[07:51] <XsesA> yes
[07:51] <kuja> XsesA: Do you already have a free partition for Linux, ready?
[07:51] <XsesA> yeah
[07:51] <root__> one is the one i talk now another is ubuntu that is not responding
[07:51] <XsesA> it's still ntfs tho
[07:51] <kuja> Okay, just making sure.
[07:51] <XsesA> but it's clear
[07:51] <XsesA> nothing in it
[07:51] <kuja> XsesA: Wouldn't wan't you accidentally erasing Windows.
[07:51] <kuja> :)
[07:51] <XsesA> the installer will format it isn't he?
[07:51] <ScreaminIke> can i force bittorrent to go through a socksv5?
[07:51] <XsesA> hehe :)
[07:51] <kuja> XsesA: Yes, it will =)
[07:51] <root__> is there any way to kill all processes by the user?
[07:52] <root__> or to reset the GUI
[07:52] <jrib> root__: pkill -u user_name
[07:52] <live> hola
[07:52] <XsesA> kuja
[07:52] <root__> ok thanks
[07:52] <root__> trying
[07:52] <mjr> ScreaminIke, look into dante-client
[07:52] <mjr> might do what you want
[07:52] <live> where am i
[07:52] <XsesA> how do u recommend to split the 55gb to ext3 and fat32 (how many gb for fat32 and for ext3)
[07:52] <live> ?
[07:52] <chantra> hi, I'm trying to reconfigure my locales setting, but even by setting priority to low, it doesn't let me choose :s
[07:52] <kuja> XsesA: Why would you want fat32?
[07:53] <XsesA> so i will be able to write in linux and windows read it
[07:53] <Ghagge> anyone that can help on how to upgrade from one version of ubuntu to a newer one?
[07:53] <bbrazil> !upgrade
[07:53] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:53] <cherubiel> !upgrade
[07:53] <dark_light> there are any xmms2 package for ubuntu?
[07:53] <mjr> !ext3
[07:53] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:53] <kuja> XsesA: Still, not quite a good idea, in my opinion.
[07:53] <XsesA> why?
[07:53] <mjr> XsesA, see the link
[07:53] <XsesA> i got the idea from this channel tho
[07:53] <kuja> Because FAT32 isn't a very great filesystem.
[07:53] <chantra> !locale
[07:53] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:53] <XsesA> i have no idea about linux and stuff
[07:54] <XsesA> oh kuja
[07:54] <kuja> XsesA: Look at what ubotu just said.
[07:54] <DaedalusvX> FAT32 is just about the definition of a terrible filesystem
[07:54] <XsesA> ok
[07:54] <kuja> XsesA: The installer will do *everything* for you.
[07:54] <XsesA> will u help me mounting the ntfs after i install linux?
[07:54] <XsesA> i just didn't get it
[07:54] <slacktyro> anyone can help me with a sound problem i'm getting?
[07:54] <kuja> XsesA: Sure, it's easy. It's a single command.
[07:54] <XsesA> ok
[07:55] <slacktyro> when i boot the system the sound is working but if i click at the mixer to change something it stop to work
[07:55] <XsesA> it's for ext2
[07:55] <XsesA> it works with ext3 also?
[07:55] <kuja> XsesA: You can tell the installer to "do what it wants to do with the free partition"
[07:55] <kuja> And it'll partition everything automatically for you
[07:55] <slacktyro> lsmod
[07:55] <XsesA> what do u mean
[07:56] <XsesA> it will make all the 55gb ext3?
[07:56] <XsesA> and the swap thing?
[07:56] <kuja> XsesA: No, it'll make a good portion of it ext3, and it'll make some of it swap.
[07:57] <XsesA> what do u mean good partition? (sorry for the newbie questions)
[07:57] <LjL> *portion* :)
[07:57] <kuja> =P
[07:57] <XsesA> ? O:
[07:58] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: how big is you HD?
[07:58] <Shadow_mil2> and how much ram you got?
[07:58] <XsesA> i got 80 that is divided to 20(windows) and 55(clear atm) and another hard disk of 250gb that i want to leave it as it is cuz i don't feel like formmating it
[07:58] <XsesA> 1gb
[07:58] <XsesA> amd 3000+
[07:59] <XsesA> :o
[07:59] <kuja> I have 80, which is divided to 40GB as ext3, representing my root ("/") and 39GB representing my home ("/home") and 1GB as my swap.
[07:59] <kuja> =)
[07:59] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: I would say, 10GB to Linux ext3, and 500 MB of swap
[07:59] <james296> can someone PLZ tell me how to prevent the terminal from opening when launching the beta version of Gaim?
[07:59] <XsesA> but i got full 55 for linux
[07:59] <XsesA> what's the root and home? :o
[07:59] <cherubiel> XsesA: make an extended out of the full 55gigs, givve 10gigs to / and 1.5 times your RAM as swap.
[07:59] <kuja> I don't even have Windows :)
[08:00] <kuja> All 80 is for Linux! YAY!
[08:00] <XsesA> lol :D
[08:00] <edgy> Hi, ubuntu mysql Default options are read from the following files in the given order: /etc/mysql/my.cnf ~/.my.cnf /etc/mysql/my.cnf The default should be /etc/my.cnf which is not read and also can't understand the duplication. Has ubuntu changed this for a reason?
[08:00] <slacktyro> kuja: good boy
[08:00] <XsesA> i neesd to play some games :)
[08:00] <XsesA> *need
[08:00] <slacktyro> me too 80gb for linux
[08:00] <slacktyro> if i have to use windows i prefer to buy a video game
[08:00] <slacktyro> ps2 is a good choice
[08:00] <XsesA> u mean 10gigs to root?
[08:00] <kuja> slacktyro: I'll need Windows soon though, if I ever decide which game I want to play... WoW, Guildwar, or FFXI :P
[08:00] <mariogdlt> hiii
[08:00] <XsesA> 1gb to swap, and the remaining to home?
[08:01] <james296> well???
[08:01] <kuja> At which point I'll probably just buy a new harddrive.
[08:01] <kuja> Maybe a 60GB
[08:01] <Willster> hey does anyone here use weatherwatcher by chance in windows?
[08:01] <Shadow_mil2> /dev/hda4              11G  4.0G  6.4G  39% /
[08:01] <Shadow_mil2> /dev/hda2             3.9G  393M  3.3G  11% /home
[08:01] <kuja> Bah, that's baby linux!
[08:01] <mariogdlt> anyone canl help me? i have created a script in my /etc/init.d/ folder and i will want it will be after some minutes be restarted
[08:01] <kuja> Well, I'm doin' pretty bad right now too :)
[08:01] <XsesA> i can't understand :(
[08:02] <Shadow_mil2> kuja: and I have 1GB of swap
[08:02] <XsesA> how to divide the 55gb?
[08:02] <nick39434> helppppppppppppppppppp
[08:02] <kuja> Shadow_mil2: Me too
[08:02] <nick39434> my error
[08:02] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: gparted
[08:02] <nick39434> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26478/
[08:02] <XsesA> 10gigs root 1gb swap and the other is for /home?
[08:02] <nick39434> my error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26478/
[08:02] <mjr> XsesA, just let the install do what it wants
[08:02] <mariogdlt> anyone canl help me? i have created a script in my /etc/init.d/ folder and i will want it will be after some minutes be restarted
[08:02] <XsesA> i'll just tell him which partition and then let it do what it wants
[08:02] <XsesA> ?
[08:02] <grok> what is the difference between an ext2 partition and ext3?
[08:03] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: by default ubuntu does not make a /home partiton.  If I were I would learn more about partitions before doing so
[08:03] <XsesA> how it will probably divide it?
[08:03] <james296> can someone amswer my question or not???
[08:03] <XsesA> can u explain to me what is "/" and what is "/home"?
[08:03] <mjr> XsesA, you've already been given that answer. One big ext3, plus some swap.
[08:03] <XsesA> oh ok
[08:03] <XsesA> sorry
[08:03] <XsesA> so no need for /home?
[08:03] <ajopaul_> hi have put kubuntu after installing ubuntu! i work behind a proxy and my konsole is not able to access any external sites though gnome-terminal can
[08:03] <mjr> no.
[08:03] <kuja> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26479/ -- This is what I have right now :)
[08:04] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: download gparted, burn it, then boot to it.  Resize NTFS partition then install Linux on unpartitioned space
[08:04] <ajopaul_> have enabled proxy too
[08:04] <majyk> is there anyway to disable evolution from starting up the evolution-exchange process even when it's explicitly disabled in the session? I don't even use evolution.
[08:04] <kuja> I'm booting from a LiveCD at a cyber cafe, using my USB pen drive as a persistent storage device :P
[08:04] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: well having a /home partition is a good idea, but its not needed at all
[08:04] <loko555> james296; i also use the beta and there is no terminal that opens
[08:04] <XsesA> oh it's like 2 partitions?
[08:04] <Willster> hehe kuja, where you at?
[08:04] <jamey3> Does anyone know how I can get a bic951-based tuner card working on Ubuntu please?
[08:04] <kuja> Willster: Korea
[08:04] <XsesA> "/" is like c: in windows and /home is like d: or something?
[08:04] <james296> well somehow it happened to me I dont know how, how can I fix it though?
[08:05] <XsesA> why shadow? 55gigs are too much?
[08:05] <Willster> not too far, i'm in thailand
[08:05] <pike_> XsesA: a seperate home is nice but not needed its just where all your profile stuff is saved so some people me included like it to be seperate to easily reinstall without losing anything
[08:05] <james296> I tried reinstalling it but didnt work
[08:05] <kuja> XsesA: / is like C:, and /home is like C:/Documents and Settings
[08:05] <loko555> james296; how do you start it
[08:05] <kuja> /home/kuja is like C:\Documents and Settings\kuja
[08:05] <XsesA> oh ok
[08:05] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: Like I said, if you give 10GB to Linux, and 1GB to swap you'll be fine
[08:05] <james296> Applications Internet Gaim...
[08:05] <FordPrefect> for a single user system for a first time user I'd probably not bother with a seperate home as the potential downsides probably outweight the benefits.
[08:05] <XsesA> but what if i will download stuff?
[08:06] <ajopaul_> majyk, open evolution edit plugins uncheck data server
[08:06] <kuja> FordPrefect: I've learned tho, it's best to keep home on a separate partition, but you're right.
[08:06] <kuja> I've lost data *a lot*
[08:06] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: how much you planning no downloading
[08:06] <FordPrefect> think of the dumb thing that I did today XsesA
[08:06] <kuja> I find that 80% of the stuff on my filesystem, the important stuff, are in my home.
[08:06] <Willster> XsesA it's up to you, I usually download to my desktop but you can also download to /home/login/wherever if you don't want clutter
[08:06] <ajopaul_> majyk, its exchange operations
[08:06] <LjL> XsesA: well that's really up to you, we can't decide for you how much space your windows vs your linux needs...
[08:06] <FordPrefect> I did "find . -type f -exec grep -Hi "foobar" '{}' ';' > foo
[08:06] <FordPrefect> but I was in the wrong directory
[08:06] <XsesA> i got 250gigs on ntfs
[08:06] <pike_> XsesA: you goal originally was a shared fat32 partition for linux and windows right?
[08:06] <XsesA> it's not a problem
[08:07] <FordPrefect> had I put foo on my home directory things would have been good
[08:07] <XsesA> that's what ppl adviced to me here
[08:07] <majyk> ajopaul_, thanks
[08:07] <FordPrefect> but since I did it on the / filesystem, I filled up the drive
[08:07] <FordPrefect> which mucked things up
[08:07] <XsesA> i got 20gigs with windows, 55 clear, and 250 ntfs atm with movies and mp3s
[08:07] <FordPrefect> but I know how to resize partitions and move mounts and all that with ease
[08:07] <Virtus> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac G3. But the system wont boot up on the CD "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso" When Im in the GUI and load the CD, OS 9.2 wants to format it... what am I doing wrong ?
[08:07] <kuja> I'd say, if you were a power user, keeping /var on a separate partition would be good as well :)
[08:07] <pike_> XsesA: you can read ntfs anyway so maybe its not a big problem
[08:07] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: ok get gparted, resize your ntfs to 125GB and have 125GB linux
[08:07] <LjL> XsesA, that would be the safe choice. however, as has been said, windows *can* read and write ext3 if you want it to. i just won't go on and recommend this, because i haven't tried it for myself.
[08:07] <XsesA> yeah i know
[08:07] <FordPrefect> a new user is less likely to make the kinds of advanced muckups that I do and more liekly to have issues with complexity :-)
[08:07] <Shadow_mil2> Well 124GB Linux, 1 GB swap
[08:07] <loko555> james296; start alacart, look for gaim and there is a switch called "start in terminal" or so
[08:08] <markeib> how can i make rar files with the console?
[08:08] <XsesA> how do i resize partition?
[08:08] <kuja> FordPrefect: A new user is less likely to screw up cause they don't delve into those parts that do screw up :p
[08:08] <XsesA> just divide it to other 2 partitions?
[08:08] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: 3 (including swap)
[08:08] <IndyBC> When Edgy Eft stable will be out?
[08:08] <kuja> Well, let's hope he doesn't make a type in a command or something (a good reason why GUIs are around)
[08:08] <kuja> s/type/typo/
[08:09] <XsesA> the swap will be done alone isn't it?
[08:09] <Shadow_mil2> Though swap will be part of your exetended partitions
[08:09] <gnomefreak> IndyBC: oct 26th
[08:09] <Garbaek> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac G3. But the system wont boot up on the CD "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso" When Im in the GUI and load the CD, OS 9.2 wants to format it... what am I doing wrong ? CD Works fine in windows..
[08:09] <XsesA> i'll just give all the 55gigs to linux
[08:09] <Ramunas> why apt-get source xchat gets me v2.4.4 and not 2.6.6 ?
[08:09] <IndyBC> gnomefreak: ok, thx
[08:09] <LjL> !schedule > IndyBC
[08:09] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: I thnk ubuntu installer makes swap by default
[08:09] <kuja> Ramunas: What repository are you using?
[08:09] <XsesA> cuz i sometimes want to download so i don't move to move to windows just for downloading
[08:09] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: that will be fine
[08:09] <kuja> Well, the source repository.
[08:09] <Ramunas> kuja: http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:10] <XsesA> really really thx
[08:10] <XsesA> what the mount command again?
[08:10] <kmaynard> mount
[08:11] <XsesA> i don't need to specify what i want to mount?
[08:11] <kuja> Ramunas: Which version of Ubuntu?
[08:11] <LjL> XsesA: you certainly do
[08:11] <Ramunas> kuja: 6.06, dapper drake
[08:11] <kuja> Hoary?
[08:11] <XsesA> so what's the full command?
[08:11] <LjL> !ntfs > XsesA
[08:11] <XsesA> the partition i want to mount is k: on windows
[08:11] <LjL> XsesA: depends. "mount /dev/something /media/something", at times
[08:12] <LjL> XsesA: well, first you need to find out what "k:" actually is
[08:12] <XsesA> how do i do that?
[08:12] <kuja> Ramunas: The latest source there seems to be 2.6.0, so I'm not sure why you get 2.4.4
[08:12] <LjL> XsesA: what HD is it on? (primary master, secondary slave...?)
[08:12] <XsesA> slave
[08:12] <LjL> XsesA: primary or secondary?
[08:12] <XsesA> umm
[08:12] <XsesA> i'll check
[08:12] <Ramunas> kuja: oh, sorry, just checked sources.list again, and it somehow got set to breezy, instead of dapper. it should be ok now
[08:12] <XsesA> it's my second hardisk tho
[08:12] <kuja> Hm
[08:12] <Mille> Something has happend to my nm-applet. When hovering my mouse over it, it says that "no network devices have been found". So the icon by the clock in the upper left corner is displayed with a litle orange warning triangel on it. How can i fix this? Tried to reinstall it already.
[08:13] <LjL> XsesA: well, if it's seconday slave, it'll be /dev/hdc# most likely, where # is a partition number
[08:13] <XsesA> Primaty ATA channel
[08:13] <LjL> XsesA: you could simply try them all until you find one that mounts as ntfs (use "mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc# /whatever")
[08:13] <LjL> XsesA: oh wait sorry -- secondary slave you said, that's /dev/hdd
[08:13] <XsesA> i'm not sure
[08:14] <XsesA> "primaty ata channel"
[08:14] <mariogdlt> anyone canl help me? i have created a script in my /etc/init.d/ folder and i will want it will be after some minutes be restarted
[08:14] <LjL> XsesA: ok, i'm making a bit of a mess, but /dev/hda is primary master, /dev/hdb is primary slave, /dev/hdc is secondary master, /dev/hdd is secondary slave
[08:14] <XsesA> so i can just try 'em all? :D
[08:14] <LjL> XsesA: if it's primary, then find out whether it's master or slave -- if it's slave, /dev/hdb should be it
[08:15] <XsesA> it should be slave cuz the windows is usually on the master isn't it?
[08:15] <XsesA> and the 250gigs i added later
[08:15] <LjL> XsesA: anyway, i was under the impression that the Ubuntu installed would find and automatically mount (or at least list in /etc/fstab) windows partitions
[08:15] <XsesA> ok thank you
[08:15] <sonium> how can I copy a directory tree recursively over a ftp connection?
[08:15] <XsesA> i can always come here after the install ^^
[08:15] <LjL> XsesA: see if "cat /etc/fstab" lists anything that looks like that ntfs partition
[08:15] <Garbaek> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac G3. But the system wont boot up on the CD "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso" When Im in the GUI and load the CD, OS 9.2 wants to format it... what am I doing wrong ? CD Works fine in windows..
[08:15] <XsesA> to write that command on the cmd?
[08:16] <LjL> XsesA: yes
[08:16] <Milkyy> Hi, hmm... I get no sound in UT 2004
[08:16] <XsesA> cat is not recognized bla bla bla
[08:17] <LjL> XsesA: ah no sorry, i meant as a *linux* command. from either the live cd, or from your installation when you have it
[08:17] <XsesA> oh ok
[08:17] <XsesA> so after the install i'l do it
[08:17] <osloszo> how can i uninstall a program ? i am new to linux
[08:17] <XsesA> xchat is mirc right?
[08:17] <LjL> osloszo: "sudo apt-get remove packagename"
[08:17] <LjL> XsesA: no, it's an IRC client though
[08:17] <Shadow_mil> osloszo: sudo apt-get remove program
[08:18] <osloszo> ok thanks guys
[08:18] <XsesA> i can enter this channel with that right?
[08:18] <LjL> XsesA: Gaim also supports the IRC protocol (probably better to use X-Chat though)
[08:18] <fweicher> hi there
[08:18] <XsesA> everything in linux is with commands?
[08:18] <LjL> XsesA: you most definitely can
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> XsesA: we turn commands into GUIs
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> and automate them
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> we don't like pain
[08:18] <LjL> XsesA: not necessarily, but text commands are easier to type on IRC than mouse clicks
[08:18] <XsesA> ok :)
[08:19] <nbx909|linux> hello
[08:19] <nbx909|linux> anyone remotly familiar with xorg issues?
[08:19] <fweicher> just some small questions about ubuntu, may anyone answer
[08:19] <XsesA> it will probably be easier for me to understand after i'll install
[08:19] <nbx909|linux> or possible xorg issues
[08:19] <XsesA> cuz i never worked with linux tho
[08:19] <squid0> hi! i'm having some trouble with an HP Omnibook xe4500 under Dapper... X says, 'no screens found'. Can you help me please?
[08:19] <Milkyy> anyone?
[08:19] <nbx909|linux> because on my server i get some type of shaddow
[08:19] <fweicher> a want to change to ubuntu and want to know : does it work with my ati X800 and the 3d desktop?
[08:19] <Shadow_mil> squid0: pastebin xorg.conf and your Xorg log
[08:19] <squid0> the graphics card is an ATI something
[08:20] <XsesA> oh btw, i got amd64, u recommend the 64bit version or 32?
[08:20] <nbx909|linux> 64
[08:20] <squid0> Shadow_mil : ok.
[08:20] <kane77> i just installed iceweasel and it doesnt have a icon on the window :( is there a way to get the icon there?
[08:20] <Garbaek> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac G3. But the system wont boot up on the CD "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso" When Im in the GUI and load the CD, OS 9.2 wants to format it... what am I doing wrong ? CD Works fine in windows..
[08:20] <Shadow_mil> XsesA: if you can run 64-bit, do so
[08:20] <LjL> !ati > fweicher
[08:21] <XsesA> ok :)
[08:21] <Shadow_mil> XsesA: Linux does not have the problems that Microsoft has with creating 64-bit OSes ;)
[08:21] <nbx909|linux> i thought it was the monitor but i replaced it and i still get some type of shadow along the right of all bright colors leading in a straight line to the end
[08:21] <fweicher> ati not?
[08:21] <XsesA> yeah that's why i asked :)
[08:21] <fweicher> LjL
[08:21] <fweicher> ?
[08:21] <LjL> XsesA: uh, uhm... actually i recommend 32 bit.
[08:21] <XsesA> O: why?
[08:21] <nbx909|linux> anyone have an idea?
[08:21] <LjL> XsesA: flash, wine, the win32 codecs, and some more proprietary things are unlikely to work on 64-bit.
[08:21] <LjL> fweicher: ?
[08:21] <__zer0__> hey, after installing x-screensavers.. they dont appear on gnome-screensaver's list
[08:21] <__zer0__> is there a command im forgetting?
[08:22] <XsesA> no flash on 64 bit?
[08:22] <fweicher> you wrote !ati ... (not ati)
[08:22] <kane77> LjL: I actualy got flash working (and all the other stuff as well)
[08:22] <kane77> XsesA, : I actualy got flash working (and all the other stuff as well)
[08:22] <XsesA> what happens if i install 32 bit version on 64 bit OS?
[08:22] <Shadow_mil> nbx909|linux: as #xorg
[08:22] <XsesA> you just installed 32bit versions?
[08:22] <nbx909|linux> Shadow_mil, what do you mean?
[08:22] <kane77> well basicaly yes
[08:22] <ScislaC> does anyone know where the remote desktop preferences are saved? (as in configuration file)
[08:22] <FordPrefect> there probably won't be flash for 64 bit anything for some time
[08:23] <Alzi> Hello. Upon installing Ubuntu, I forgot to set the time and now Firefox is complaining about timed out certificates. Also... how to get compositing in Metacity? (I enabled AIGLX..)
[08:23] <Shadow_mil> ask*
[08:23] <nbx909|linux> Shadow_mil, oh ask #xorg
[08:23] <FordPrefect> flash is written as I understand it in assembly
[08:23] <nbx909|linux> thanks
[08:23] <XsesA> kane77: and it works just fine?
[08:23] <pike_> ScislaC: like ~/.vnc/xstartup or whatever?
[08:23] <LjL> XsesA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-ff0a19a9ff23537e36b3cf9d40b2d8747bd45cd4
[08:23] <kane77> XsesA, yes it works...
[08:23] <XsesA> kane77: any configuration needed to do?
[08:23] <pike_> ScislaC: you might just sudo gdmsetup for some of the remote desktop settings
[08:24] <XsesA> gah
[08:24] <squid0> how do i copy + paste text from a text file to a field in a web form in a command line terminal environment? ie. no X is available
[08:24] <XsesA> need to do some configurations
[08:24] <XsesA> what's wine?
[08:24] <XsesA> and win32 codecs?
[08:24] <kane77> XsesA, well firstly you need to install either iceweasel32 or firefox32 version
[08:24] <LjL> XsesA: wine is a Windows compatibility layer
[08:25] <XsesA> what it does?
[08:25] <LjL> XsesA: win32 codecs are Windows DLLs that you may need to read some multimedia formats
[08:25] <LjL> XsesA: it makes you run Windows programs under Ubuntu
[08:25] <XsesA> oh it makes u run exe files?
[08:25] <XsesA> even games?
[08:25] <LjL> XsesA: some of them.
[08:25] <kane77> XsesA, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=flash+64 here is the guide!
[08:25] <FordPrefect> for games you're better off with Cedega
[08:25] <XsesA> oh but no save then :)
[08:25] <FordPrefect> which is a commercial proprietary version of WINE
[08:25] <pluffsy> hi
[08:25] <ScislaC> pike_: problem is that I can ssh into my box, but my vnc is having issues... so I'm looking to either try to re-set my password manually or restart the service... so I guess the Q is... is gdmsetup a command-line utility?
[08:25] <owen_> how do i add an entry to my Gnome Applications Menu?
[08:25] <FordPrefect> I'm even able to play Civilization III
[08:25] <slacktyro> anyone can help me with a sound problem i'm getting?
[08:25] <sykvisii> I need some help configuring the sound on my laptop
[08:25] <sykvisii> plz
[08:26] <MarcN> squid0: no X? How are you viewing the web form?
[08:26] <slacktyro> when i boot the system the sound is working but if i click at the mixer to change something it stop to work
[08:26] <pluffsy> I most have done something very weird on my new ubuntu server because whenever I try to make a write I get the error read-only file system. Err, guess it's kind of a wide question but any idea what might be wrong?
[08:26] <FordPrefect> but it is hit and miss and if you plan on keeping windows around then you'll find win games better with it
[08:26] <ricanelite> Hello all, I need help with two things, I need help installing the lastest Java and getting the lastest of Flash going
[08:26] <FordPrefect> but if not then cedgea is good for games
[08:26] <squid0> MarcN: i want to use elinks
[08:26] <ricanelite> Where do I need to go to get both things?
[08:26] <LjL> !java > ricanelite
[08:26] <LjL> !flash > ricanelite
[08:26] <XsesA> "PC (Intel x86) desktop CD" this version?
[08:26] <sykvisii> alsamixer says no devices
[08:27] <IndyBC> when Python 2.5 will be to the ubuntu repository?
[08:27] <LjL> XsesA: that's the 32 bit version i think
[08:27] <sykvisii> but the device IS there
   im sorry, i don`t know what !ati >  mean
[08:27] <XsesA> the other ones are : Mac (PowerPC) desktop CD and 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD
[08:27] <LjL> !ati
[08:27] <MarcN> squid0: there is a character cell mouse driver you could use.  It has been around forever.  forget what it is called.
[08:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:27] <LjL> fweicher: ^
[08:27] <squid0> MarcN: um. that's only a bit helpful :)
[08:27] <balzac> I can't setup a samba share because of package dependencies
[08:27] <XsesA> yeah it's i386
[08:28] <sykvisii> hello? help?
[08:28] <MarcN> squid0: now you know it is possible...
[08:28] <squid0> lol
[08:28] <MarcN> squid0: gpm
[08:29] <squid0> MarcN: ok, how do i get it? is it an app/a package?
[08:29] <XsesA> LjL: what do i lose if i install 32bit version
[08:29] <DuDReNoV> Anyone heh tryed installing ubuntu on HP Pavilion dv6000 laptop?
[08:29] <Arcanis> Hey, what was that command to reconfigure the X Server via the command line?
[08:29] <MarcN> squid0: sudo apt-get install gpm
[08:29] <LjL> XsesA: some speed, possibly
[08:29] <Arcanis> Dudrenov.. that model sounds familiar
[08:29] <DuDReNoV> Tryed and failed like me :(
[08:29] <kmaynard> Arcainus,  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:29] <MarcN> DuDReNoV: /me using compaq nc6000 laptop
[08:29] <Arcanis> I think that is the one my friend uses
[08:30] <Arcanis> does it have a remote control and a numpad on the keyboard?
[08:30] <XsesA> well just as i am loosing now with windows 32bit, isn't it?
[08:30] <LjL> XsesA: yes
[08:30] <Arcanis> I'm pretty sure that's the one
[08:30] <XsesA> i rather get all worked :}
[08:30] <Arcanis> nVidia 6600GT?
[08:30] <DuDReNoV> Well install gues fine. But after that when you try to boot it just dies on random places
[08:30] <Arcanis> and intel core duo
[08:30] <Vuen> !xwinwrap
[08:30] <XsesA> cuz anyway if i won't play games i won't even feel that perfomance changes
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwinwrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <ricanelite> when typing in sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[08:30] <ricanelite>  im getting a message for E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bi
[08:30] <DuDReNoV> it's AMD64
[08:30] <Arcanis> oh
[08:31] <Arcanis> my friend has a core duo model one, he installed the latest ubuntu on it and he even got XGL working nicely
[08:31] <B-Minus_> hey all
[08:31] <jrib> ricanelite: have you enabled multiverse?
[08:31] <amorphous_> can anyone tell me the name of an app to interface with canon ptp camera? i runnning xubuntu so if theres one thats not kde/gnome it's best...?
[08:31] <tom__> does anyone know where i can get xwinwrap?
[08:31] <ricanelite> where I go to do that?
[08:31] <fweicher> is there a chance to get the X800 work with the 3d desktop on ubuntu? With opensuse i`ve had little problems
[08:31] <ricanelite> im a newbie so please forgive me
[08:31] <XsesA> the plugins for firefox works on linux also?
[08:31] <jrib> ubotu: tell ricanelite about multiverse
[08:31] <MarcN> DuDReNoV: I seem to recall something adding some kernel parameters for amd
[08:31] <B-Minus_> i have dhcpclient3, but i cant see it at Boot-up-manager, BUT the thing starts at bootup ... how is this possible ??
[08:31] <jrib> ricanelite: np, we were all newbies at one time :)
[08:32] <IndyBC> does anybody know when Python 2.5 will be to the ubuntu repository?
[08:32] <iLikeSpoons> hey all. so, I want to install a newer version of amarok from the repositories. Since the ubuntu repos only have 1.2.3, I followed the instructions on the amarok homepage, added kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest to the sources.list. and everything's ok, but synaptic reports that it can't find libvisual-0.4.0, as the latest version in the repos is 0.2.0
[08:32] <DuDReNoV> MarcN: any idea where to llok?
[08:32] <FordPrefect> XsesA you'd probably be better off running 32 bit mode for your first forray
[08:32] <FordPrefect> a lot of things have more complex packaging or require compilation even at 64bit
[08:32] <XsesA> yeah that's what i thought
[08:32] <squid0> MarcN: thanks. but i've managed with attaching a file to an email in Gmail! cool, hey
[08:32] <MarcN> DuDReNoV: google? maybe around turning off acpi
[08:32] <XsesA> less trying to make all work =\
[08:33] <iLikeSpoons> I downloaded and compiled libvisual-0.4.0, is there a way for me to tell synaptic that it's installed? Or any idea in what repository it is?
[08:33] <FordPrefect> and flash9 for linux will be out shortly
[08:33] <XsesA> and messing everything up while doing that :)
[08:33] <FordPrefect> I presented with an adobe guy on it at Ajaxworld
[08:33] <FordPrefect> but 64bit isn't even on the map
[08:33] <DuDReNoV> is turning off acpi advisable?
[08:33] <FordPrefect> right now flash7 works in linux but REFUSES to run on 64bit
[08:33] <MarcN> DuDReNoV: it will disable turning off your fans.
[08:33] <Ramunas> can anybody give me their sources list for dapper?
[08:33] <MarcN> DuDReNoV: and other power saving things ;-)
[08:34] <jrib> ubotu: tell Ramunas about easysource
[08:34] <DuDReNoV> that's great far a laptop :)
[08:34] <Ramunas> jrib: thx
[08:34] <Arcanis> is there a way to install ubuntu off the livecd from the command line?
[08:34] <Arcanis> I am having problems with X, my entire screen is just covered in artifacts
[08:35] <__zer0__> is there a command i need to run to make all the x-screensavers appear in ubuntu's screensaver list?
[08:35] <XsesA> thank you very much everyone!
[08:35] <FordPrefect> np
[08:36] <XsesA> btw how the install looks like
[08:36] <XsesA> blue screen like windows? :P
[08:37] <wastrel> ubunto
[08:37] <Samuli^> XsesA, it looks just like the desktop of the OS. Install happens in one window like when you install a game or something on windows.
[08:37] <nbx909|linux> XsesA, it's a blue screen so that it's the last blue screen you see until you reinstall
[08:37] <XsesA> i plan to install it with boot
[08:37] <nbx909|linux> lol
[08:37] <XsesA> O:
[08:37] <Samuli^> install with boot?
[08:37] <designdream> man! finally!
[08:38] <XsesA> burning it to bootable cd
[08:38] <XsesA> how would i rather do that?
[08:38] <XsesA> FordPerfect?
[08:38] <XsesA> LjL?
[08:38] <Samuli^> XsesA, that's how you do the install.
[08:39] <XsesA> isn't it like that?
[08:39] <XsesA> http://static.flickr.com/6/11229311_b90309e46b.jpg
[08:39] <Samuli^> there's no other way other than messing around with vmware.
[08:39] <iamelite> Hello my friends, would any of you be willing to aid me in the "chroot" and such processes of getting my 32 bit programs operation under my nify AMD64/x86_64 Ubuntu?
[08:39] <LjL> XsesA: eh, what?
[08:39] <Samuli^> XsesA, oh right. You have the alternate install CD.
[08:39] <XsesA> how should i install the ubuntu
[08:39] <Samuli^> well it does look like that. Brings back memories :)
[08:39] <XsesA> with bootable CD?
[08:39] <LjL> XsesA: hm, the Desktop CD would be easier to use
[08:39] <XsesA> should i do it from the windows or boot the cd?
[08:40] <Samuli^> XsesA, use the live-cd or desktop CD what ever it's called.
[08:40] <LjL> XsesA: you should boot the CD
[08:40] <XsesA> i downloaded desktop cd
[08:40] <Samuli^> XsesA, download the cd, burn it. Boot from the CD.
[08:40] <XsesA> ok
[08:40] <XsesA> thanks
[08:40] <Samuli^> no problem.
[08:40] <XsesA> at least i have another computer so i can come here and ask questions if i got any prob :)
[08:40] <Squee> iamelite: a 32 bit chroot in a 64bit dapper?
[08:40] <Samuli^> and ENJOY. :)
[08:40] <XsesA> i hope :)
[08:41] <iamelite> SQUEE, i love that comic. Yes that is correct.
[08:41] <Samuli^> XsesA, you can irc while you install the OS.
[08:41] <LjL> XsesA: you should be able to just boot from the Desktop CD and come back here from there
[08:41] <Samuli^> with the desktop CD.
[08:41] <XsesA> isn't it like windows install?
[08:41] <LjL> XsesA: no
[08:41] <XsesA> ohhh
[08:41] <Squee> iamelite: heh alright.  I know of a great tutorial for breezy that works for dapper, hold on lemme find it
[08:41] <owen_> how do you add an entry to the gnome applications menu?
[08:41] <XsesA> i will be in the windows while doing that?
[08:41] <XsesA> or what?
[08:41] <LjL> XsesA: no. you'll be in ubuntu
[08:41] <XsesA> gah i feel stupid :\
[08:41] <rfboehme> when I boot from a fresh install (64 bit 6.06.1), I get a "Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page (in process 'gdm'
[08:41] <Samuli^> XsesA, like I said, it's more like when you have install some program to windows.
[08:41] <rfboehme> message
[08:42] <XsesA> ok i'll probably understand when i'll install
[08:42] <Samuli^> XsesA, the install goes in one window and you're on the desktop free to do what ever you want mean while.
[08:42] <LjL> XsesA: really, just burn the CD, and boot the computer from there... it'll all be clear as soon as you see what's going on
[08:42] <XsesA> yeah probably
[08:42] <iamelite> squee, my friend here says "his name makes me hot"
[08:42] <Squee> iamelite: everyone loves squee
[08:42] <XsesA> oh i read somewhere that i need to write some command for the OS look good
[08:42] <XsesA> (skin)
[08:43] <Squee> iamelite: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575  Do that exactly, but instead of hoary put dapper.  I'm using that right now and it works fine
[08:43] <Samuli^> XsesA, just install the damn thing and worry about other stuff later :)
[08:43] <iamelite> squee, lol Oh damn... i did that... as it said.
[08:43] <Squee> heh, you did hoary?
[08:43] <iamelite> yup
[08:43] <iamelite> well theres my problem
[08:44] <designdream> Samuli^: did you get to playing with vim?
[08:44] <Squee> well, it SHOULd still work... but what problems do you have?
[08:44] <Samuli^> designdream, huh?
[08:44] <iamelite> errors in "passwd" and stuff such when updating or something
[08:44] <designdream> Samuli^: i thought you asked earlier for php editor suggestions.. sorry got you confused
[08:44] <XsesA> :D
[08:44] <designdream> Samuli^: it was Stigi`aw
[08:45] <LjL> XsesA: by the way... i think the Desktop CD doesn't have X-Chat preinstalled. you can use Gaim (that also can connect to IRC)
[08:45] <Squee> iamelite: yea just delete everything in /chroot and redo it with dapper... that should work
[08:45] <Samuli^> designdream, I didn't, but thanks anyways. I didn't know vim could do that.
[08:45] <iamelite> squee- Upon this command     * apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[08:45] <XsesA> which other versions there are?!
[08:45] <__zer0__> can someone help me.. i installed x-screensavers but they dont show up in ubuntus list
[08:46] <Shadow_mil> __zer0__: dpkg -L packname
[08:46] <Shadow_mil> find them
[08:46] <XsesA> Alternate install CD - what's that?!
[08:46] <Samuli^> XsesA, that's what you were using.
[08:46] <xFordPrefect> XsesA there is another video of installing http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6347380926653203943&q=ubuntu&hl=en
[08:46] <xFordPrefect> fast forward all the cheesy parts
[08:46] <Filesystem2> I have installed Ubuntu 5.10 (and now upgraded to drapper, but that's beside the point) and mounted a fat32 partion with edting fstab. Afterwords Win2k says partition is not active and I need to reboot to set active. Reboot=NoGo. Anyone else run into this problem?
[08:46] <method|>  hey i just followed this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271533&highlight=kde+xgl on how to setup bery and xgl. When i try to load up xgl from login it hangs a bit then kicks me back to the login screen. Any help?
[08:46] <XsesA> oh thanks
[08:46] <XsesA> samuli what?
[08:46] <Samuli^> XsesA, err?
[08:46] <pequatre> hey guys. Anyone knows of a good podcast feed to add to add to amarok ? :)
[08:47] <squid0> MarcN, and any others who can help please: for my X config file and X log, relating to my problem with X in Dapper on my HP omnibook xe4500, please look at http://pastebin.ca/199749
[08:47] <XsesA> i didn't understand what you said
[08:47] <slacktyro> anyone is getting bug with sound mixer?
[08:47] <lupine_85> hmm, is it just me or is openoffice2 Calc a PoS?
[08:47] <lupine_85> oops
[08:47] <Squee> method: go to tty1 and type in "glxinfo | grep direct rendering and tell me if it says yes
[08:47] <LjL> XsesA, leave the alternate CD alone and use the desktop CD... the alternate is for when the desktop fails to work for some reason, or for when you want to have more fine-grained control over installation
[08:47] <wastrel> glxinfo | grep render
[08:47] <XsesA> ok
[08:47] <Squee> lupine: honestly alot of that programming is
[08:48] <XsesA> so which version got the xchat? the server one?
[08:48] <pequatre> bbs
[08:48] <Samuli^> XsesA, you WERE using alternate install cd, that is, text-mode install. Now you have hopefully downloaded the desktop CD which is a live cd (boots you into the operating system run from the cd) with functionality to install system to the hard drive.
[08:48] <iamelite> squee... im about to delete "chroot" folder in the file system... is is good or bad ^_+
[08:48] <XsesA> ohhh
[08:48] <LjL> XsesA: no version
[08:48] <XsesA> it was some pictures i found on the web
[08:48] <method|> Squee: yes it said yes
[08:48] <Squee> iamelite: shouldn't hurt anything unless there is anything important in the chroot.  Just make sure to recreat it right there
[08:48] <XsesA> ok now i understand
[08:48] <LjL> XsesA: x-chat has to be installed, it's not there by default IIRC
[08:48] <XsesA> thank you and sorry for all my dumb questions :)
[08:48] <craigbass1976> How do I list the samba shares on the network?
[08:48] <ricanelite> im having a hard time getting this to work
[08:49] <Squee> method: then my suggestion is to go to beryl's wiki and try to do it through there.  That tutorial there is a bit different
[08:49] <azureal> hi, i'll soon be reinstalling ubuntu.  My goal is to just have fluxbox, so I'm not sure which one to download...xubuntu?
[08:49] <method|> i see
[08:49] <Samuli^> XsesA, no problem, I was just as confused at the start.
[08:49] <xFordPrefect> yeah XsesA I'd watch that video and search google vids for a few more before you start...  I think it might make you feel more comfortable
[08:49] <ricanelite> when i type in sudo apt-get update i get this message E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:49] <ricanelite> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:49] <SPho3nix> hey - does anyone know about the "select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out" error on a x60 or a Core Duo machine running Edgy Eft?
[08:49] <Samuli^> well maybe not quite, but still, confused ;)
[08:49] <azureal> i would like the smallest one that would still allow "update-manager"
[08:49] <wastrel> azureal:  install the server version
[08:49] <ricanelite> can some take me step by step for me please
[08:49] <XsesA> well i think when i'll see it i'll just understand how it's working
[08:49] <Stigi`aw> designdream, ye, it seems okay, but I'd like to have some kind of preview :\
[08:49] <esj> does ubuntu use Mac addresses instead of Bus addresses for allocating ETH identifiers?
[08:49] <C-O-L-T> !edgy
[08:49] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:49] <xFordPrefect> amazing how much more vid there is for ubuntu than any other distro
[08:50] <xFordPrefect> on google videos
[08:50] <Squee> edgy art got screwed today
[08:50] <xFordPrefect> I just searched "ubuntu" and lots of tutorials and stuff
[08:50] <Shadow_mil> ricanelite: you have another apt running
[08:50] <designdream> Stigi`aw: a preview? explain
[08:50] <C-O-L-T> !schedule
[08:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:50] <xFordPrefect> pretty cool I think
[08:50] <Shadow_mil> ricanelite: this includes things like sanyapic*
[08:50] <wastrel> synaptic
[08:50] <designdream> Stigi`aw: you keep firefox open and visible.. have it autorefresh every couple of seconds
[08:50] <iamelite> whats the code to mount to... that... oh man...
[08:51] <iamelite> to read only on an NTFS drive.
[08:51] <Stigi`aw> Hehe designdream, that's perfect ;)
[08:51] <iLikeSpoons> lemme try again - is there a way for me to tell synaptic that I installed something from source?
[08:51] <seamus7> hi all ... just curious ... wondering if many here have kubuntu-desktop intalled as a second gui and wondering what you think might be a strong reason for having it installed in addition to Gnome? I just installed it to check it out but wonder if there's a 'killer app' that perhaps I can only use in Kubuntu that I couldn't use in Ubuntu like I do with Amarok.
[08:51] <Rico-> speaking of NTFS, is write support vaguely safe yet?
[08:51] <azureal> wastrel, what does server install come w/
[08:52] <Squee> ilikespoons: when you build things from source, instead of typing make / make install, get CheckInstall and run that instead.  That will generate a debian package and then synaptic will see it
[08:52] <ricanelite> when i type in sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk i get this message now E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jdk
[08:52] <iLikeSpoons> Squee, thanks a lot
[08:52] <iamelite> is kubuntu 13373& than Ubuntu?
[08:52] <Rico-> seamus7: all kde apps run on gnome, just with differing amounts of kde installed
[08:52] <wastrel> azureal:  it comes with apt, which is all you need to get fluxbox running post-install
[08:52] <Squee> ilikespoons: no problem :D
[08:52] <designdream> it took me forever to ubuntu installed!
[08:52] <squid0> ricanelite : check you have the necessary repostories set up to be used
[08:52] <squid0> i think you need universe or multiverse
[08:52] <squid0> then reload
[08:52] <ricanelite> how can i check that? can you help me because i have no clue
[08:52] <ricanelite> lol
[08:53] <azureal> wastrel, but ubuntu's fluxbox is outdated... i would need some kind of gui to obtain it from source
[08:53] <squid0> !repositories
[08:53] <ricanelite> im a newbie and more to it
[08:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:53] <azureal> wastrel, because i suck w/ links
[08:53] <wastrel> azureal:  xubuntu then is probably the smallest
[08:53] <seamus7> Rico-: ahhh ok I didn't know you could use all KDE apps on Gnome. Thx.
[08:53] <squid0> ricanelite : look what ubotu (the bot) said
[08:54] <azureal> wastrel, or should i just download the latest fluxbox source, put it on my windows partition, and share it/install it =P
[08:54] <squid0> MarcN: can you please look at my X stuff? or are you looking at it now?
[08:55] <azureal> wastrel, but i'm afraid of what's going to happen when edgy is officially released
[08:55] <mdasilva> if your ram modules run at a slower speed then your FSB, it will still work but not to the full performance potential correct?
[08:55] <designdream> when linux boots up.. what sets the native resolution of the initial console?
[08:55] <wastrel> azureal:  i'm not sure what your setup is - do you have a ubuntu system running currently?
[08:55] <azureal> wastrel, the "update-manager" package requires ubuntu-desktop
[08:55] <Chamuco> anyone knows if I could recover aext3 partition that I reformatted with reiserfs
[08:55] <azureal> wastrel, yes, currently i do, but i want to format it and install anew
[08:56] <Squee> designdream: the framebuffer driver.  There is a command you can change in the grub list to make it go higher is that is what you want
[08:56] <hubuntu> chamuco I have heard of such tools, but it gets a little complicated when refformating with reiser...
[08:56] <designdream> Squee: once i have booted can it be changed?
[08:56] <hubuntu> try googling for a tool or something
[08:56] <wastrel> azureal:  download xubuntu  - probably the smallest install cd and use that to reinstall ubuntu, then install fluxbox from source.  as far as edgy, i dunno :] 
[08:56] <Squee> designdream: as far as i know you have to reboot
[08:57] <designdream> shocking
[08:57] <katsura> bonsoir
[08:58] <katsura> je suis un nouveau utilisateur de Ubuntu
[08:58] <wastrel> !fr
[08:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:58] <Samuli^> katsura, #ubuntu-fr
[08:58] <azureal> wastrel, i had a bad experience w/ manually installing edgy w/ apt and avoiding installing ubuntu-desktop lol
[08:58] <squid0> hi! i'm having some trouble with an HP Omnibook xe4500 under Dapper... X says, 'no screens found'. Can you help me please? I've posted my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.ca/199749
[08:58] <katsura> je suis surpris c'est super, je commencais a dsesprer de Linux, Mandriva avec ca belle interface n'est pas grand chose finalement
[08:58] <katsura> ok
[08:59] <azureal> ubuntu > mandriva  imo
[08:59] <nox-Hand> Hey
[08:59] <nox-Hand> My GFX does not work by boot automaticly X
[08:59] <azureal> squid0, i had that problem too, strangely enough.. it fixed itself =/
[08:59] <nox-Hand> How do I fix  it? (( liveCD ))
[09:00] <freeman> Where can I get a copy of Skype for Linux?
[09:00] <squid0> azureal : hm. thanks. what an anticlimax! :)
[09:00] <iLikeSpoons> Squee, while checkinstall installed it and made a deb package and all, synaptic still doesn't see it :(
[09:00] <squid0> azureal : i'm stuck. my laptop is just not functional :( :(
[09:00] <azureal> squid0, lol, i was experimenting w/ edgy and it broke x
[09:00] <hubuntu> chamuco have a look at this one: http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909.htm
[09:00] <squid0> azureal : i see
[09:00] <kmaynard> freeman, umm, have you tried skype.com?
[09:01] <Squee> !checkinstall
[09:01] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[09:01] <iLikeSpoons> ah. awesome, thanks
[09:01] <kmaynard> !update-rc > kmaynard
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <freeman> kmaynard:  have skype.com ever worked?
[09:02] <Squee> ilikespoons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  Says that synaptic should see it
[09:02] <kmaynard> freeman, ive never used it, but its there
[09:02] <azureal> squid0, i remember some recommendations were to go through the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  prompts
[09:02] <hubuntu> Chamuco you can also look at R-Linux it claims to be specifi
[09:02] <azureal> choose your correct graphics driver, etc
[09:02] <hubuntu> cally made for your case: http://ext2.qarchive.org/
[09:02] <freeman> kmaynard: skype.com hasnt been up since 2004
[09:02] <iamelite> Rustay spooons
[09:03] <squid0> azureal : right. thanks. been ther, done that. I'm using the fglrx driver... openchrome... still no joy
[09:03] <iLikeSpoons> Squee, that's the thing: when I search for it, it's there, but when I try installing amarok, I get:  Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>=0.4.0) but it is not installable
[09:03] <Squee> ilikespoons:  you should be able to just apt-get amarok... are you building that from source?
[09:04] <squid0> azureal : i mean, i'm not going to suck X modes out of my thumb. i'm hoping to find someone with a direct, specific approach...
[09:04] <TNR|manofphat> Does anyone here run ubuntu server with SRCDS?
[09:04] <zool2005> a quick question, what would people advise as a backup device for a home desktop user. Are tapes practical?
[09:04] <iLikeSpoons> nope, I'm trying to get a newer version from the kubuntu repos, since the ubuntu ones only have 1.2.3 and it's currently at 1.4.2
[09:04] <squid0> azureal : i'm gonna try #debian
[09:04] <iLikeSpoons> *1.4.3
[09:04] <azureal> ok, hopefully someone else will know
[09:05] <kmaynard> freeman, http://www.skype.com/download/
[09:05] <freeman> kmaynard: that works?
[09:05] <Squee> ilikespoons: try going to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories and add all the repositories there.  Then type "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get build-dep amarok" then try to checkinstall amarok's source
[09:05] <kmaynard> are you on the same internet?
[09:06] <kmaynard> i'm looking at the skype page as we speak
[09:07] <freeman> kmaynard: I get network error !
[09:07] <walvaro> hello
[09:07] <azureal> when edgy officially comes out, does anyone know how i'd be able to update to it w/ only fluxbox installed?
[09:07] <walvaro> i need help
[09:07] <nickspoon> azureal: yep.
[09:07] <kmaynard> freeman, who's your isp?
[09:07] <freeman> kmaynard: (I'm in middle east)
[09:08] <freeman> kmaynard:  still want my isp? :P
[09:08] <arepie> is this ATI RADEON CARD http://www.powercolor.com/global/main_product_detail.asp?id=34
[09:08] <nickspoon> azureal: you'd just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, and change all instances of dapper to edgy.
[09:08] <azureal> nickspoon, i don't quite have the setup yet, but i will soon (server install + fluxbox from source)
[09:08] <nickspoon> !upgrade
[09:08] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:08] <walvaro> i have ubuntu, and i dont know how can i go to the windows partition disc... to get archives
[09:08] <kmaynard> freeman, not really...i'm sure you're being blocked
[09:08] <nickspoon> !ntfs
[09:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:08] <walvaro> Yhx
[09:08] <walvaro> thx
[09:08] <kmaynard> encryption is dangerous stuff
[09:09] <nox-Hand> My GFX does not boot X in the Livecd - how do I fix?
[09:09] <azureal> nickspoon, so you're currently running fluxbox?
[09:09] <kmaynard> freeman, you may wanna look into tor
[09:09] <Squee> nox-hand: what does it say?
[09:09] <kmaynard> http://tor.eff.org/
[09:09] <soccio> Hi everybody.
[09:09] <kmaynard> hi
[09:09] <nickspoon> azureal: no, but provided you're running Ubuntu, it doesn't matter which GUI you have.
[09:09] <DragonKing27> sup
[09:09] <soccio> Is there anybody who could help me installing VmWare Workstation on Edgy Eft?
[09:10] <azureal> nickspoon, the thing is, i already attempted to follow those steps w/ my current ubuntu... WITHOUT ubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <kmaynard> soccio, i can try....i run it in dapper
[09:10] <kromel> Soccio, try #ubuntu-1
[09:10] <azureal> nickspoon, it eventually caused some graphical bugs, font errors, and apt errors
[09:10] <shadok> hi
[09:11] <DragonKing27> can u install CPanel/WHM on ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake?
[09:11] <kmaynard> freeman, are you on linux now?
[09:11] <shadok> i'm looking for the name of the package that includes most of the fonts, anyone ?
[09:11] <kromel> soccia, sorry, it's #ubuntu+1
[09:11] <azureal> nickspoon, but apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is a real pain... _just_ to get update manager to work
[09:12] <kmaynard> lol
[09:12] <azureal> oh, i wonder if i use aptitude... and then aptitude remove...
[09:12] <soccio> kmaynard: I also run it in Dapper... but I cannot get it working on Edgy.
[09:12] <nickspoon> azureal: well, problem is, unless you have ubuntu-desktop or something similar, you won't get new packages - only updates of old ones.
[09:12] <nickspoon> !fluxbuntu
[09:12] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a Ubuntu-derivative based on the FluxBox Desktop Environment. It is lightweight, swift and sleek. | Fluxbuntu Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Fluxbuntu Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/ | The Fluxbuntu Community: http://community.fluxbuntu.org/
[09:12] <DragonKing27> cant u try kubuntu-desktop
[09:12] <DragonKing27> ?
[09:12] <kmaynard> soccio, have you tried the vmware-any-any-update? you got build-essential installed? kernel headers?
[09:13] <kmaynard> nickspoon, what are you talking about?
[09:13] <nickspoon> !fluxbuntu-desktop
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fluxbuntu-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <nickspoon> never mind.
[09:13] <soccio> kmaynard: actually the problem is that vmware cannot find the linux-header matching my running kernel. Edgy only has linux-header and linux-header-generic. None of them is linux-header-386
[09:13] <nickspoon> kmaynard: azureal wants to upgrade to edgy with only Fluxbox installed.
[09:14] <carlos> can anyone help me mount windows partitions?
[09:14] <nickspoon> so no ubuntu, kubuntu or even xubuntu-desktop.
[09:14] <kmaynard> soccio, uname -a
[09:14] <nickspoon> carlos:
[09:14] <nickspoon> !ntfs
[09:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:14] <soccio> kmaynard: 2.6.17-10-386
[09:14] <shadok> anyone for the system fonts package ? my dad had removed some fonts and I fear some system ones
[09:14] <freeman> kmaynard: Sorry for bothering you -- thanks, I've just entered a proxy, and now I can view it :D
[09:14] <kmaynard> nickspoon, you mean uninstall ubuntu-desktop, then upgrade with fluxbox?
[09:14] <carlos> !ntfs
[09:14] <kmaynard> freeman, dude, no bother
[09:15] <walvaro> sorry but i dont understand what i should to do to see my music and photos that are in the win2000 partition
[09:15] <kmaynard> freeman, where are you anyway?
[09:15] <azureal> nickspoon, fluxbuntu is only in its developmental phase and buggy
[09:15] <nickspoon> carlos: "To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse"
[09:15] <freeman> kmaynard:  uae! ISP: Etisalat --
[09:15] <azureal> nickspoon, plus, it doesnt even say which version is installed..
[09:15] <kmaynard> wow
[09:15] <azureal> (on the fluxbuntu site, that is)
[09:15] <walvaro> i dont understand the help..
[09:16] <iLikeSpoons> woo, finally! Thanks, Squee
[09:16] <freeman> kmaynard: If i download skype.tar.gz, how do I remove it? cause if i were to download it from synaptic, i can easily remove by typing apt-get remove skype .. but how can i remove a software that I've installed from .tar.gz
[09:16] <wastrel> hello
[09:16] <azureal> right, so i guess i'll just server install + fluxbox from source, and hopefully a solution will arise by the time official edgy comes out
[09:16] <Squee> ilikespoons: your welcome :D
[09:16] <nickspoon> azureal: so, you're running ubuntu without ubuntu-desktop or anything of the sort...
[09:16] <iLikeSpoons> though, I couldn't get it to work with apt-get, with synaptic it just worked :P
[09:16] <Truedesi> hello I am a newboob on the Ubuntu platform... I have my box set up and everything I am VNCing from my Windows XP desktop to the ubuntu box but the problem is when I restart the Ubuntu box and it askes me to login.. I can't VNC into the box
[09:16] <kmaynard> freeman, remove the files it created...
[09:17] <azureal> nickspoon, ah yea.. and it was stable until i attempted to upgrade to edgy
[09:17] <freeman> kmaynard:  All the line it has created?
[09:17] <freeman> kmaynard: Is that the proper way to uninstall it?
[09:17] <kmaynard> freeman, if you can, put in in /opt/skype, then you can rm -rf /opt/skype/ if you need to
[09:17] <kmaynard> yup
[09:17] <azureal> nickspoon, i just had the regular gnomish install + fluxbox, and then i pretty much removed everything gnome-related with debfoster
[09:17] <kmaynard> would a clean install be the endof the world?
[09:18] <freeman> kmaynard: hehe,
[09:18] <kromel> of warcraft
[09:18] <kmaynard> LOL
[09:18] <azureal> clean install = admitting defeat =P
[09:18] <kmaynard> not defeat
[09:18] <nickspoon> azureal: in order to upgrade, you'll have to reinstall ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu or xubuntu-desktop), then get rid of it afterwards.
[09:18] <kmaynard> think of the money you'll save on advil for headaches
[09:19] <kmaynard> you can paypal it to me as a thanks
[09:19] <azureal> nickspoon, nod, so the best way would be through aptitude, not apt, correct?
[09:19] <Truedesi> hello I am a newboob on the Ubuntu platform... I have my box set up and everything I am VNCing from my Windows XP desktop to the ubuntu box but the problem is when I restart the Ubuntu box and it askes me to login.. I can't VNC into the box
[09:19] <azureal> newboob!! ROFL
[09:19] <nickspoon> newboob :)
[09:19] <Truedesi> finally some one is reading my message
[09:20] <nickspoon> Truedesi: only because you said newboob :)
[09:20] <kmaynard> Truedesi, you may want to look into www.nomachine.com
[09:20] <azureal> it's those keywords
[09:20] <raar> Hello, I'm installing Ubuntu and it doesn't seem to be installing grub properly (doesn't write the mbr). So when the installation program reboots, it boots to my old OS (WinXP) or when the installation CD is still in, it starts the installation again - any clue how to get Ubuntu to properly install GRUB (or write it to the MBR)?
[09:20] <kmaynard> it's better than vnc
[09:20] <kmaynard> you'll need nxclient, nxnode, and the free nxserver
[09:20] <DragonKing27> rarr: when it says GRUB loading , hit ESC
[09:21] <DragonKing27> *raar
[09:21] <Truedesi> Kmaynard, if I have vnc working do i have all that
[09:21] <DragonKing27> sorry
[09:21] <azureal> nickspoon, ah, on second thought i'm not sure if i want to go through a server install...i mean which program will it use for partitioning =/
[09:21] <kmaynard> Truedesi, no...nomachine is a seperate thing...something to consider. you could write a script that starts a vncserver session at boot
[09:21] <Terminus> raar: boot from a livecd and try to install it manually i guess... that's all i can think of.
[09:21] <Terminus> !grub > raar
[09:22] <raar> DragonKing27: When is it suppose to say "GRUB loading"?
[09:22] <nickspoon> Truedesi: http://www.odrakir.com/blog/?p=201
[09:22] <azureal> nickspoon, or is it at least semi-graphical
[09:22] <kmaynard> raar, are you booting with the cd in the tray every time
[09:22] <DragonKing27> in  the latter part of your startup
[09:22] <Terminus> raar: oh yeah, make sure your bios isn't prohibiting writes to the mbr.
[09:22] <raar> Terminus: I'm having problems installing grub, as I'm not sure how to define my devices and everything in grub-install
[09:23] <ruyman> whats is the name for amule in ubuntu?
[09:23] <ruyman> i write apt-get install amule but dont work
[09:23] <ruyman> anything idea?
[09:23] <Truedesi> nickspoon, thanks looks good
[09:23] <raar> Terminus: I've checked in there, I even tried with "OS Install Mode" :)
[09:23] <nickspoon> !amule
[09:23] <ubotu> amule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB
[09:23] <nickspoon> ruyman: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[09:23] <nickspoon> !universe
[09:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:23] <ruyman> i dont know
[09:23] <Truedesi> nickspoon, I will try it
[09:23] <ruyman> how i can see this ?
[09:23] <nickspoon> probably not then.
[09:23] <nickspoon> !repositories
[09:24] <ruyman> !repositories
[09:24] <walvaro> nickspoon you know a lot of... please help me
[09:24] <Terminus> raar: sorry, that's all i can think of. i've never encountered grub problems that couldn't be fixed by running grub-install manually. =|
[09:24] <siloe> hello Please sugest name software for compreension files format ZIp and split
[09:25] <nickspoon> ruyman: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:25] <nickspoon> walvaro: what do you want to know?
[09:25] <muxx> hello guys. could you please point me at the kernel building HOWTO ?
[09:25] <segfault_> raar, r u installing ubuntu on a sep drive that windows?
[09:25] <Answer> How can I setup Ubuntu to automatically log in as my default user?
[09:26] <Answer> How can I setup Ubuntu to automatically log in as my default user? (without launching gdm)
[09:26] <Terminus> raar: oh, you mean you're not sure whether the drive is hda, hdb, sda, etc?
[09:27] <segfault_> Answer, u can enable auto login in gdm
[09:27] <raar> segfault_: same harddisk, different partition
[09:27] <wastrel> !kernel
[09:27] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:27] <segfault_> Answer, if ur asking how to do this without starting X i dont know if it is possible
[09:27] <Answer> segfault_, no gdm i'm not running any graphical window manager
[09:28] <raar> Terminus: I know it's sda3, but am not sure how to specify that with grub-install.. It's quite complicated to work with, in my opinion
[09:28] <segfault_> Answer, yeah dont know if that is possible
[09:28] <kmaynard> Answer, if you're not running x, why log in automatically?
[09:28] <muxx> ubotu> I need a kernel with APM and !ACPI (this breaks PCI support on my MB).
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I need a kernel with APM and !ACPI (this breaks PCI support on my MB). - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <wastrel> if you boot into single user mode you get a root shell without having to login
[09:28] <carlos> how can I make ubuntu recognize my notebook batery?
[09:28] <Answer> kmaynard, I need to launch a script on boot as a user (not root) I cannot make it work.. I thought if it automatically logs in I could use .bashrc
[09:29] <segfault_> wastrel, iirc some services dont start tho
[09:29] <kmaynard> Answer, i've setup stuff like that in webmin before
[09:29] <Riot777> Answer: u planing it on server ?
[09:29] <Terminus> raar: i see... as far as i remember, it's the drive that should be specified, not the partition, since you're trying to install the mbr. so it should be /dev/sda
[09:29] <Truedesi> I am having problems connecting to this irc server.. irc.hak5.org /#hak5
[09:30] <wastrel> you can use su to run things as a specific user
[09:30] <muxx> guys, another kernel-related question: how do I prevent customly built kernel from getting overridden by later automatic updates ?
[09:30] <chuckyp> whattup peopls
[09:30] <segfault_> muxx, using make-kpkg cmg add --rev somerev option
[09:30] <chuckyp> s/peopls/peoples
[09:30] <kmaynard> Answer, webmin isnt in the repos anymore, you have to go to webmin.com and the the deb...but it has an option to create startup actions, and run them as different users...what are you trying to run>
[09:30] <raar> Terminus: ah okay, I'll give that a shot in a minute, thanks :)
[09:31] <wastrel> su -c whoami <some other user>
[09:32] <Answer> kmaynard, I just need to launch a simple script, so I put it in init.d and rcS.d and but it runs as root
[09:32] <THX-1138> Is there an open source sms server?
[09:32] <wastrel> Answer:  use su to run it as a different user
[09:33] <Terminus> raar: good luck! that advice doesn't come with warranties. =D
[09:33] <wastrel> su -c <command> <user>
[09:33] <wastrel> teh ae3som3
[09:33] <wastrel> er. aw3s0m3
[09:33] <carlos> Hi. how can I make ubuntu recognize my notebook batery?
[09:33] <raar> heheh ;] 
[09:33] <muxx> segfault_> is this covered anywhere in the documentation ?
[09:34] <vorbis> se a qualcuno puo' interessare ho gli album Prodigy: The Fat of the Land e NYCC: Greatest hits in formato ogg vorbis. ho anche un bel po' di musica ambient in tale formato.
[09:34] <Terminus> raar: weird how it couldn't install the mbr though... i've never installed an OS that couldn't write to the mbr.
[09:34] <segfault_> muxx, install kernel-package, then man make-kpkg
[09:34] <wastrel> looks portugese
[09:34] <wastrel> !pt
[09:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:34] <kmaynard> carlos, what you mean, recognize it?
[09:34] <AsheD> how do I burn an audio CD in Ubuntu?
[09:34] <THX-1138> eureka! SMS  (Is Ubuntu Linux cool H*** yes!)
[09:35] <Squee> does anyone here know how a "chillispot" works?
[09:35] <vorbis> sorry, wrong channel.
[09:35] <segfault_> muxx, make-kpkg is the debian script to build kernels/modules etc for u it creates debs then u just use dpkg to install the new kernel, soooo much easier :)
[09:35] <Tallen> AsheD: check out K3b good stuff.
[09:35] <wastrel> vorbis:  so was i right?
[09:35] <Squee> segfault & mux: or check out moldule-assistant
[09:35] <raar> Terminus: I tried this an hour ago or so: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-a0b7dbaec35668690d12cc1b9a681d218c4ae89b - at point 5 it says "Do not format them", however the Ubuntu installation program tells me it has to format the filesystems needed by ubuntu in order to install the OS. After that there's no "Install Grub" anywhere..
[09:35] <Squee> !module-assistant
[09:35] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[09:35] <Truedesi> how i connect to irc.hak5.org server
[09:35] <ephemeros> yo \m/
[09:35] <DragonKing27> Can you install CPanel/WHM in Ubuntu?
[09:36] <Terminus> AsheD: you could also just insert a blank cd and wait for a dialog to come up on what you want to do with it. it'll launch serpentine if i remember correctly.
[09:36] <raar> Terminus: yeah, I was quite confused too - I've been trying around with this for atleast 15 hours now
[09:36] <segfault_> Squee, yeah, but he was asking about building a kernel
[09:36] <Squee> segfault: oh ok
[09:36] <carlos> kmaynard, it appers that my notebook is always plugged, even when it`s not.
[09:36] <kmaynard> carlos, you using gnome?
[09:36] <Terminus> raar: is that a custom box or not?
[09:37] <carlos> kmaynard, yes..
[09:37] <Terminus> raar: i'm just guessing but it might be some weird dell/hp/whatever thingy.
[09:37] <raar> Terminus: it's a dell, some custom components, but they're all quite standard for a desktop pc
[09:37] <kmaynard> carlos, edgy has gnome 2.16, which is supposed to have better power options http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/en/rnfeatures.html
[09:37] <vorbis> vastrel, i've written the message in the wrong channel.
[09:38] <wastrel> vorbis:  is it portugese?
[09:38] <segfault_> carlos, u cna check /proc/acpi/battery/ for any present batteries, if kernel doesnt recognize, i dont think there much u can do but wait for edgy and hope that will see ur battery
[09:38] <Terminus> raar: coz i was thinking it might be something weird with their recovery partition and stuff. did you check if the bios prohibits mbr writes?
[09:38] <vorbis> wastrel, who is portuguese?
[09:38] <slacktyro> i'm brazilian
[09:38] <wastrel> vorbis:  what you wrote - what language is it?
[09:38] <slacktyro> i can speak portuguese
[09:39] <vorbis> wastrel: italian
[09:39] <Squee> does anyone here know how a "chillispot" works?
[09:39] <wastrel> ah thank you.
[09:39] <ntc> hi, anyone around that can tell me how to change the console font?
[09:39] <wastrel> italian, i was wrong :] 
[09:39] <vorbis> wastrel, np :)
[09:39] <carlos> kmaynard, ok.. thanks =)
[09:39] <vorbis> wastrel: are you american?
[09:40] <slacktyro> i'm having problems with my sound
[09:40] <wastrel> vorbis:  yes
[09:40] <slacktyro> anyone can help me?
[09:40] <carlos> segfault, thanks..
[09:40] <ntc> I want to use the lucida p console font
[09:40] <ntc> :S
[09:40] <ntc> no idea how to fix that...
[09:40] <wastrel> ntc:  check the forum mabye
[09:40] <ntc> I have..
[09:40] <ntc> lots
[09:40] <vorbis> wastrel: in america very few people uses linux too?
[09:41] <ntc> many says I can use "consle-setup"
[09:41] <wastrel> vorbis:  very few, 2-5% i think.
[09:41] <ntc> but there is no such app
[09:41] <slacktyro> i thought that most part of the linux users were from america
[09:41] <method|> i just installed xgl and beryl. when i try to start xgl from the kde login menu it logs in then the screen goes to black and white dots with the X cursor then kicks me back out to the login screen. Any ideas?
[09:41] <raar> Terminus: I've installed quite a few OSes in this system before and never had any problems, I've even enabled "OS Install Mode" in my BIOS.. Couldn't find anything that looks like a read only setting for the MBR :(
[09:42] <segfault_> ntc, its been a while but try the file /etc/console-tools/config
[09:42] <Terminus> raar: well, i'm out of ideas. =(
[09:42] <Wheelybin> !printing
[09:42] <vorbis> wastrel: here in italy only some universitary student uses it... and some server run linux... but normally an italian don't know linux at all
[09:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:42] <LjL> raar: is "virus check on boot" or something usually, i think
[09:43] <ntc> segfault_, I looked in to that one
[09:43] <ntc> but there is one problem
[09:43] <ntc> I dont know what name to use for lucida font
[09:43] <ntc> the specific font I want
[09:44] <ntc> how can I get that?
[09:44] <TheGateKeeper> ntc: this any help? ---> http://penguinslair.org/wiki/index.php/Bash_prompt
[09:44] <xroach> hi
[09:44] <ntc> TheGateKeeper, I'll look thx
[09:44] <vorbis> !streamripper
[09:44] <ubotu> streamripper: download online streams into mp3 files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.61.17-1 (dapper), package size 59 kB, installed size 172 kB
[09:45] <TheGateKeeper> ntc: np :-)
[09:45] <raar> Terminus: alright, thanks very much for your help, I'll give it another shot
[09:45] <raar> LjL: I'll have a look, thanks
[09:45] <vorbis> someone here use streamripper?
[09:45] <xroach> could anyone help me with a network-manager-gnome problem. I doesnt anymore show my wireless connection.
[09:45] <segfault_> ntc, sry i dont recall where to find font names, maybe xfontsel will help, not sure tho
[09:45] <ntc> thx I'll look in to that too :P
[09:46] <Wheelybin> Oh nose! Canon no longer has their driver for the IP1000. www.google.com (Yes I know, why am I typing the url here? Because then I can click on it)
[09:47] <Filesystem2> Are there any real differences between this 3 alternatives in fstab: ###Alt. 1 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 ###Alt. 2 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 ###Alt. 3 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[09:47] <Filesystem2> Are there any real differences between this 3 alternatives in fstab: ###Alt. 1 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 ###Alt. 2 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 ###Alt. 3 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[09:47] <Wheelybin> !uninstall
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <Wheelybin> !remove apps
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove apps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <Vuen> awesome
[09:48] <TheGateKeeper> apt-get remove <package name>
[09:48] <segfault_> Filesystem2, man mount can answer that
[09:48] <xroach> could anyone help me with a network-manager-gnome problem. It doesnt anymore show my wireless connection.
[09:48] <voltz> is one desktop manager better than another or things are just done differently ie: gnome or kde ??
[09:48] <Wheelybin> This might sound like an odd request, but I want to uninstall firefox from my system, as I prefer swiftfox. Or is swiftfox a mod that depends upon firefox?
[09:48] <Filesystem2> segfault_: Just looking for a more human readable info...
[09:49] <wastrel> voltz:  it's all personal preference
[09:49] <muxx> segfault_> how do I make the newly-built kernel and its boot options persistent over automatic updates ?
[09:49] <voltz> wastrel, thanks
[09:49] <segfault_> voltz, there isnt really an answer to that its all opions
[09:49] <segfault_> voltz, s/opions/opinions/
[09:49] <segfault_> Filesystem2, man mount is human readable
[09:50] <voltz> yup, I thought so,new to all this ;), I might just revert back to gnome
[09:50] <narasim_7> voltz: and leads to (un)necessary debates too
[09:50] <da_dudadi> hello
[09:50] <da_dudadi> I have a question about updating a video driver
[09:50] <voltz> narasim_7, I hear that
[09:50] <da_dudadi> how do you terminate the "X" server?
[09:50] <segfault_> muxx, add ur entry before or after the automagic kernel list in menu.lst
[09:50] <Wheelybin> !swiftfox
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <Filesystem2> da_dudadi: Ctrl alt backspace
[09:51] <Wheelybin> !xscreensaver
[09:51] <ubotu> xscreensaver: Automatic screensaver for X. In component main, is optional. Version 4.23-4ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 270 kB, installed size 2228 kB
[09:51] <BoyBach> Hello, how do I search for a mysql channel if there is one?
[09:51] <segfault_> da_dudadi, ctrl-alt-backspace or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:51] <muxx> segfault_> hm, so far it got overwritten every time there's a kernel update installed
[09:52] <segfault_> muxx, find this line in lenu.lst ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[09:52] <muxx> segfault_> maybe I am adding it in the wrong place
[09:52] <muxx> segfault_> I see now, sorry
[09:52] <segfault_> muxx, add ur kernel entry prior to that, it will not be touched by update-grub
[09:53] <BoyBach> -u
[09:54] <Wheelybin> Am I the only one that uses swiftfox then? It says it's the default screensaver, but a lot of apps are quite happy to open up firefox instead
[09:54] <da_dudadi> How do I turn off the X-server?
[09:54] <Enselic> !wmv
[09:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:55] <Filesystem2> segfault_: If mounting a fat32 drive did not cause problems with win2k reading it afterwords, I wouldn't come here looking for answers why things go so wrong. I'll remove the linux partitions and fat32 and try with a newest ubuntu from start.
[09:56] <da_dudadi> How do you turn off the X-server?
[09:56] <Trae> Is there a GUI tool that easily allows me to edit grub?
[09:56] <Wheelybin> !screensaver
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <da_dudadi> !x server
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <Trae> I want to add /dev/hda5 as a bootable option.
[09:57] <narasim_7> !grub
[09:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:57] <highneko> Is it possible to change the workspace/desktop background color using bash?
[09:57] <voltz> I installed kubuntu-desktop with apt-get install * then jsut removed it with apt-get remove yet many icons and menu items remain,how to clear those please
[09:58] <Wheelybin> I have another question! Is there another screensaver application besides Ubuntu's default I can use? I want more buttons to press
[09:58] <FunnyLookinHat> Someone should really create a grub recovery CD or something   : )
[09:58] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: do u wish to login without X..
[09:58] <YoG> can someone help me setting up my wifi?
[09:58] <da_dudadi> Yes i want to log in without X
[09:58] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: that is boot into command line...?
[09:58] <da_dudadi> yes
[09:58] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: u can change the runlevel in /etc/inittab
[09:59] <da_dudadi> in the terminal?
[09:59] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: default is 5 for X and 3 for command line... not sure about 4
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> da_dudadi: you can log into a fail same terminal
[10:00] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: u want the login screen to come and then login to command line?
[10:00] <YoG> can someone help me setting up my wifi? please?
[10:00] <xroach> can anyone help me with a small network-manager-gnome problem?
[10:01] <LimonJalisciense> xroach what's your problem?
[10:01] <da_dudadi> i do not see an initab folder
[10:01] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: inittab is a file
[10:02] <freeman> YoG: Sure :)
[10:02] <freeman> da_dudadi:  it's in /etc/inittab
[10:02] <Zoffix> Hi, is it possible for each workspace to have a separate background? I can't find how =/ using Gnome
[10:02] <da_dudadi> all i have is /etc/init.d
[10:03] <YoG> freeman: thanx, I managed to make the usb dongle to work, I can see on my router that the wifi is connected, but on the ubuntu side i don't have any network.... :(
[10:03] <xroach> LimonJalisciense im was trying to set up my wifi to work and it was almost running, got the drivers and all installed but then when i booted my network-manager-gnome didnt show my wlan0 anymore.
[10:03] <YoG> freeman: I have configured the IP, subnet, gateway & dns, so I dont know what else I can do
[10:03] <xroach> it disappeared
[10:03] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: from where are u checking this? terminal or File manager?
[10:03] <xroach> it disappeared
[10:03] <YoG> freeman: btw I'm running 5.10
[10:04] <gbrent> I tried this command tail -f /export_local/smsgw_usa/logs/server.log | awk '{print $1, $6, $10}' | egrep 'SenderWorker' but I get an error:awk: record `13/10/06 6:02:18:Sen...' too long
[10:04] <gbrent> anyoe help me with that?
[10:04] <freeman> YoG: Is this pcmcia card or integrated wifi?
[10:04] <rambo3> xroach, what driver
[10:04] <YoG> freeman: usb
[10:04] <da_dudadi> i am in file manager
[10:04] <xroach> cant remember but It worked before that Im sure
[10:04] <da_dudadi> i just found it
[10:04] <rambo3> YoG iwconfig
[10:05] <da_dudadi> I don't want it to be turned permanently
[10:05] <freeman> YoG: Do you see the wifi connection in system > adiminstration > network ?
[10:05] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: ok
[10:05] <xroach> but how is it possible that it doenst shot it anymore?
[10:05] <da_dudadi> just once is there a way to do that?
[10:05] <YoG> freeman: yes
[10:05] <xroach> im using ndiswapper
[10:05] <YoG> freeman: I also see it on the router side
[10:05] <Zoffix> stupid x-chat-gnome =/
[10:05] <xroach> knetworkmanager doesnt show it anymore either
[10:05] <YoG> free: i.e. i see a connection from that card
[10:05] <freeman> YoG: That's great .. what else do you see under network? Ethernet connection?
[10:06] <Zoffix> does anybody have any idea regarding my question?
[10:06] <rambo3> i know 0 about ndiswraper , only native drivers
[10:06] <freeman> Zoffix: what is your question?
[10:06] <YoG> just a modem, I dont have another lan card installed
[10:06] <xroach> yeh but the drivers work
[10:06] <da_dudadi> is there a way to turn off x server just once?
[10:06] <YoG> freeman: just a modem, I dont have another lan card installed
[10:06] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: see.. if u do a sudo vi /etc/inittab in the terminal  and then change the default runlevel ..after the restart u wont get ur login window ..u will go straight to the command line..
[10:06] <freeman> rambo3: you can install windows driver on your ndiswrapper
[10:06] <xroach> its not a drivers problem
[10:06] <freeman> YoG: Is the modem connected activated? If so, deactivate it
[10:06] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: left alt+ctrl +f1 will give u the command line
[10:06] <suntzu> can someone help with edgy analog joystick setup please?
[10:07] <rambo3> freeman, know that much , only didnt use it
[10:07] <freeman> rambo3: Why do you need ndiswrapper? To get your wifi up and running?
[10:07] <narasim_7> then left alt+ctrl+f7 will bring u back to ur x session
[10:07] <YoG> freeman: I think it's deactivated, I need to check, but in the ifconfig i only see the wlan0  and the loopback... just a sec. I'll check
[10:07] <rambo3> freeman, i didnt ask any  question .
[10:08] <freeman> YoG:  type -> ifconfig wlan0 .. Does it give you the inet addr ?
[10:08] <freeman> rambo3:  that's why I'm asking the question :)
[10:08] <Enselic> Does any one here successfully stream WMV from firefox?
[10:08] <freeman> that *
[10:08] <YoG> freeman: modem is deactivated... I'll check the ifconfig, brb
[10:08] <freeman> Zoffix: I use irssi, sorry :)
[10:08] <gbrent> I get an error:awk: record `13/10/06 6:02:18:Sen...' too long with this command. Why?   tail -f /export_local/smsgw_usa/logs/server.log | awk '{print $1, $6, $10}' | egrep 'SenderWorker'
[10:08] <rambo3> no i have rt61 driver that work nativly , was telling YoG
[10:08] <freeman> YoG: ifconfig wlan0 (include wlan0)
[10:09] <Zoffix> freeman, is it possible to set different background images for each workspace, I'm using gnome
[10:09] <xroach> freeman do you know what might be the problem when network manager doesnt show wlan0 anymore
[10:09] <xroach> booted and it was gone:(
[10:09] <Zoffix> freeman, ok, what is the problem with irssi? :)
[10:09] <xroach> :
[10:09] <xroach> booted and it was gone:(
[10:09] <Alzi> How to remove every configuration Firefox has left on my account? i had invalid time and now it says the certificate is timed out.
[10:09] <freeman> Zoffix: I thought you were asking something about xchat ;x
[10:09] <YoG> freeman: yes (but DHCP is disabled)
[10:09] <muxx> segfault_> so if I add the kernel before AUTOMAGIC KERNELS, it will be always the default kernel to boot and its options won't change ?
[10:10] <freeman> xroach: is your wifi card supported under ndiswrapper ?
[10:10] <grecko> alguien me puede ayudar a instalar el servidor apache2+php+mysql
[10:10] <freeman> YoG: Is your router dhcp on?
[10:10] <xroach> yeh i got it to work before but now its gone
[10:10] <YoG> freeman: yes
[10:10] <YoG> freeman: both static and dynamic
[10:11] <freeman> xroach: check your system > administration > windows device driver .. See if the .inf file is still there
[10:11] <freeman> YoG: Tried giving your wlan0 a static ip??
[10:11] <Zoffix> freeman, hehe, no I said that x-chat-gnome sucks, it crashed and woundn't start again :D
[10:11] <YoG> freeman: yes,
[10:11] <freeman> Zoffix: use irssi (like me) .. you won't regret it! :)
[10:11] <YoG> freeman: I don't use the dynamic DHCP.
[10:11] <s_spiff> some1 gimme a good substitute for Gaim 1.5!! is there something better?
[10:12] <xroach> neti2220 Hardware present: yes
[10:12] <freeman> YoG:  can you access your router homepage from your wireless ?
[10:12] <ROBOd> my video card slot changed
[10:12] <Zoffix> freeman, I like the pretty colors :D Although irssi helped me when I killed my X :D
[10:12] <ROBOd> how to redectect my video card?
[10:12] <ROBOd> for xorg
[10:12] <freeman> xroach: deactivate, and re-activate your wireless lan, and try again
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i use bitchx for that
[10:12] <wastrel> nothing wrong with bitchx but the name
[10:12] <xroach> how can I do that?
[10:13] <freeman> Admiral_Chicago: bitchx is seriously bitch .. :P I hate bitchx ;X
[10:13] <YoG> freeman: no :(. can't even ping the router from ubuntu, or ubuntu from the router.
[10:13] <freeman> YoG: Has it ever worked?
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> freeman: its came through in a pinch
[10:13] <segfault_> muxx, its options wont change but the default boot kernel is determined by the default item in the menu.lst file
[10:13] <YoG> freeman: in general? it works on windows XP. this is the first time i'm trying it with linux.
[10:14] <freeman> Admiral_Chicago:  yea, well - it's a matter of choice :) I like irssi,
[10:14] <segfault_> muxx, if default is 0 then yes it will be the default kernel to boot
[10:14] <freeman> YoG: What is the brand, model of your wireless?
[10:14] <xroach> freeman how do i restart my wireless?
[10:14] <freeman> xroach: use ifdown ifup
[10:14] <muxx> segfault_> make-kpkg has quite a few options... 8)
[10:14] <freeman> ifdown wlan0, ifup wlan0
[10:14] <freeman> xroach:  ^^^
[10:15] <YoG> freeman: Acer Warplink USB Adapter
[10:15] <segfault_> muxx, make-kpkg --rev something.1 kernel_image should be all u need
[10:15] <freeman> YoG: Hold on, let me check it!!..
[10:15] <YoG> freeman: thats what lsusb says anyway
[10:15] <muxx> segfault_> will it launch the menuconfig or do I have to do it beforehand ?
[10:15] <segfault_> muxx, if u use nvida or other modules u can also add modules_image
[10:15] <e-head> Hey guys
[10:16] <piotr_> hi
[10:16] <sureshot> hey i am running gparted on a 250 gb off of a usb to sata converter when i try to access the drive it says unreconizable disk lable and i cant change it is there somthing else i need to do to get this thing runing
[10:16] <segfault_> muxx, no it will do text based config, best to config ur kernel first
[10:16] <piotr_> 1) how do I check what version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[10:16] <orion2012> piotr_:  lsb_release
[10:16] <segfault_> muxx, also if ur using an initrd u may need some options for that i forget, as i never build kernels that need an initrd
[10:16] <orion2012> piotr_: just kidding
[10:17] <azureal> lol
[10:17] <xroach> freeman it say No DHCPOFFERS received.
[10:17] <freeman> xroach: you haven't set up your wifi correctly.
[10:17] <YoG> freeman: btw, I installed openssh-server and I cant ssh myself on the ubuntu machine, maybe there is a firewall or smoething like that? It gives me: "...port 22: connection refused".
[10:17] <wastrel> wow they just found a bacterium with fewer than 200 genes
[10:17] <azureal> piotr_, i believe it's just  "uname -a"
[10:17] <piotr_> then how
[10:17] <wastrel> 150ish
[10:17] <xroach> but it worked before
[10:18] <wastrel> that's amazing 100%
[10:18] <Ramunas> night everybody
[10:18] <wastrel> piotr_:  lsb_release -a
[10:18] <gourdin> wastrel: where ?
[10:18] <gourdin> wastrel: got an url ?
[10:18] <sureshot> hey i am running gparted on a 250 gb off of a usb to sata converter when i try to access the drive it says unreconizable disk lable and i cant change it is there somthing else i need to do to get this thing runing
[10:18] <muxx> segfault_> I don't think I need initrd but afais it is used bu default installation
[10:18] <wastrel> gourdin:  nature.com  - listening on the radio.
[10:18] <wastrel> ah here it is. 182
[10:18] <chuckyp> sureshot, did you try fsck 'ng it?
[10:18] <gourdin> wastrel: thx
[10:19] <wastrel> http://www.nature.com/news/2006/061009/full/061009-10.html
[10:19] <gourdin> thx
[10:19] <azureal> fsck definitely has to be the funniest command
[10:19] <segfault_> muxx, yes it is used by default install, to avoid biuld all the drivers u need to boot into ur kernel
[10:19] <e-head> Why would apt-get report "The following packages have been kept back:" ?
[10:19] <e-head> I was trying to do a "apt-get -u upgrade"
[10:19] <abo> anyone knows if there is a googledesktop for linux/ubuntu?
[10:19] <xroach> freeman it worked fine before i just used the ndiswapper and network-manager-gnome but after I booted or something it disappeared
[10:20] <e-head> There are 83 packages listed.
[10:20] <sureshot> chuckyp i am not familer with the acronim can you if you would explain a little futher
[10:20] <The_Machine> okay
[10:20] <The_Machine> um
[10:20] <azureal> lol googledesktop...rofl
[10:20] <The_Machine> i run ubuntu dapper inside VMware at work
[10:20] <The_Machine> on an XP box
[10:20] <The_Machine> i want to dual boot
[10:20] <abo> azureal, what's that?
[10:20] <abo> azureal, rofl?
[10:20] <The_Machine> ...but my entire HDD is formatted as NTFS
[10:20] <wastrel> fsck is a command i believe it means file system check
[10:21] <azureal> abo rofl = rolling over, falling laughing
[10:21] <The_Machine> and i'm kind of nervous about borking up this PC, although i feel more comfortable with linux every day
[10:21] <The_Machine> so, erm.
[10:21] <segfault_> e-head, sounds like it needs to install some new packages to update some others, try dist-upgrade
[10:21] <e-head> yeap.  That did it.
[10:21] <abo> azureal, should I take it as a no?
[10:21] <muxx> anyone knows since when APM got disabled in pre-compiled kernels ? I found that after the update APM doesn't work any longer
[10:21] <e-head> I was just reading around.
[10:21] <e-head> This box was a "hoary" box a while back.
[10:21] <pike_> abo: are you looking for some search applet for the gnome-panel or what?
[10:21] <azureal> abo, i actually didn't think such a thing existed.. but then i googled it... it's just an _application_ for windows
[10:21] <sureshot> wastrel thanks i will try it i just read that it is a 3gb drive i may have to jumper it to 1.5 i will try that if this all works
[10:21] <e-head> Will a dist-upgrade cause any trouble ?
[10:21] <The_Machine> what's a good (free) way to make it so my NTFS formatted HDD is now only half way formatted with NTFS so i can try and dual boot ubuntu?
[10:21] <UbuntuGuy> How should I install 32-bit libraries on my amd64 box (to run apps like skype)?
[10:22] <THX-1138> The_Machine, Have you compared VMWare to Xen?
[10:22] <The_Machine> no.
[10:22] <azureal> abo, desktop implies a whole bunch of things in linux
[10:22] <wastrel> sureshot:  be careful, it can damage your filesystem, it's best to read the manual first.
[10:22] <The_Machine> i've just used VMWare.
[10:22] <e-head> segfault_: btw, I found a partition image tool. partimage. and a rescue disk to make/restore them.
[10:22] <The_Machine> it works fine
[10:22] <piotr_> ubutu live cd should be able to resize partitions
[10:22] <YoG> freeman: and another thing, I can see the ssid from ubuntu, that also may imply that its not a hardware problem
[10:22] <THX-1138> Me either
[10:22] <The_Machine> i just want to be able to use all PC power when in ubuntu
[10:22] <The_Machine> and run XP in vmware :)
[10:22] <pike_> The_Machine: if you go to gparted website they have a livecd that can resize for you
[10:22] <The_Machine> as i want linux to be the primary OS
[10:22] <tk> UbuntuGuy: google flash on 64bit ubuntu and you will find a website with a blog about installing all the 32bit stuffo n 64bit
[10:22] <sureshot> wastrel thanks for the worning i say that and canceled untill i can see what i am doing
[10:22] <Exclamation> The_Machine: Just use gparted to resize it. But make sure you backup 1st, just in case.
[10:22] <freeman> YoG: you could try assign ip automatically (using dhcp)
[10:22] <The_Machine> hmm
[10:22] <abo> pike_, I use it a lot on my windows box, hit CTRL twice, type a few letter .. and you get what you want ... real nice
[10:22] <The_Machine> okay.
[10:23] <pike_> The_Machine: im sure the ubuntucd will work fine too but i think gparted livecd is more current
[10:23] <verwilst__> hellow
[10:23] <The_Machine> k
[10:23] <freeman> YoG: and make sure ESSID is correct
[10:23] <piotr_> ow crap.
[10:23] <azureal> abo, when i think of desktop, i think of Gnome, KDE, Fluxbox... now when you said googledesktop my first instinct was to laugh =)
[10:23] <verwilst__> edgy's xorg is soo sluggish with nvidia drivers :(
[10:23] <sureshot> i have been on a lot of differerent help channels and you all are the best i have seen thanks again
[10:23] <The_Machine> question:  What app should i use to back up my XP OS?
[10:23] <verwilst__> dapper was much snappier
[10:23] <verwilst__> anybody else noticed this too?
[10:23] <The_Machine> (I have the disc space on external HDD, just wondering about app)
[10:23] <THX-1138> The_Machine, Virtualisation is much easier.
[10:23] <The_Machine> THX-1138:  why?
[10:23] <pike_> abo: it indexes and searches the computer hard drive?
[10:23] <piotr_> 220 mb to patch 5.10, 550 to upgrade to 6.06. And I though windows update was time consuming:P
[10:24] <YoG> freeman: ubuntu knew the ssid without me giving it. I tried automatic IP, it didn't work
[10:24] <abo> yes, and offers easily the choice to try to fetch online or on network drive
[10:24] <abo> pike_, yes, and offers easily the choice to try to fetch online or on network drive.. it is so handy and quick to use
[10:24] <THX-1138> Obviously i run Ubuntu natively when i can. (Read home) VMWare is easy to setup.
[10:25] <segfault_> e-head, interesting, ive always used tar to backup and restore installs
[10:25] <YoG> freeman: ESSID is correct.
[10:25] <xroach> freeman it worked fine before i just used the ndiswapper and network-manager-gnome but after I booted or something it disappeared
[10:25] <Shogran> hey,,
[10:25] <Enselic> I've failed to stream windows media files in firefox for 30 mins now. How do I do?
[10:25] <e-head> segfault_: probably the same thing
[10:26] <azureal> Enselic, what have you done so far
[10:26] <Shogran> I cant get webcam to work on my  AMSN
[10:26] <xnt> hi, does anybody know where are the Window Manager Configuration Files in Ubuntu??
[10:26] <e-head> hell, this program may simply use tar. it keeps me from having to remember the switches though.  :)
[10:26] <pike_> abo: there are similar linux projects but maybe none that integrated i think
[10:26] <THX-1138> gconf-editor
[10:26] <tk> anyone know why files written to NTFS in ubuntu arent visible to Windows?
[10:27] <THX-1138> tk - ntfs-3g driver? (just curious about nstalling it.)
[10:27] <Enselic> azureal: installed a bunch of codecs for MPlayer in /usr/lib/codecs|win32, tried with easyubuntu, but it only crashes, attempted to manually copy the previosuly mentioned codces into ~/.mozilla/plugins etc
[10:27] <tk> THX-1138: yah... I didnt have the problem on my external HD but I setup my internal with a shared partition and its like that...
[10:28] <azureal> Enselic, codecs dont go into mozilla/plugins...
[10:28] <Enselic> azureal: where do they go?
[10:28] <azureal> Enselic, you have mplayer, right?  I think you need mplayer-plugin
[10:28] <THX-1138> tk - That is really wierd.
[10:28] <Shogran> !webcam
[10:28] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:28] <azureal> Enselic, mplayerplug-in
[10:28] <xnt> Hi, does anybody know where are the Window Manager Configuration files in Ubuntu?
[10:28] <finalbeta> Ohw, perhaps my webcam can work :p
[10:29] <freeman> xnt: /etc - is the system configuration files of the software that is installed | if that's what your talking
[10:29] <freeman> about.
[10:29] <THX-1138> tk - If you ran ntfs check disk would the partition show up again?
[10:29] <OmniD> How do I install a tar.gz?
[10:29] <pike_> xnt: what specifically did you want to do
[10:29] <THX-1138> !tar
[10:29] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:29] <freeman> OmniD: tar zxvf filename.tar.gz
[10:29] <xnt> freeman: thanks, but i'm looking forward to configure ubuntu so i can use enlightenment instead of ubuntu
[10:30] <OmniD> I can uncompress it thanks, but not install
[10:30] <OmniD> thank you freeman
[10:30] <xnt> freeman: instead of gnome, imean
[10:30] <finalbeta> Hmm, it doesn't solve my webcam problem. How do I make sure my webcam doesn't become /dev/video0? Because my TV card needs to be that.
[10:30] <abo> pike_, any examples of similar projects in linux? (to google desktop)?
[10:30] <tk> THX-1138: its visible... I can write to it right now... i just cant see like.... my web files I setup under linux....
[10:30] <monofonik_> hey
[10:30] <monofonik_> question
[10:30] <iLLf8d> xnt, new or old E?
[10:30] <monofonik_> i've heard ubuntu livecds now have an installer, so if you like it, it's easy to install?
[10:30] <monofonik_> i wanna dual boot ubuntu on my powerbook g4
[10:31] <THX-1138> OmniD, Is there an install script inside? sh <install> or a .configure script?
[10:31] <freeman> monofonik_: install ubuntu on different partition.
[10:31] <abo> monofonik_, well you can say the install cd is now a live cd
[10:31] <xnt> iLL8d: I think the newest stable one, since i got it from apt-get
[10:31] <OmniD> lemme check
[10:31] <monofonik_> abo explain?
[10:31] <iLLf8d> xnt, oh old E
[10:31] <iLLf8d> ok
[10:31] <monofonik_> does the ubuntu installer have a built in partitioner?
[10:31] <maxLF> How do you install wine 0.9.22?
[10:31] <iLLf8d> xnt, you can play new one with the E live cd dist its deb on the backend
[10:31] <maxLF> I got the tar file and I Can't figure out how to isntall it
[10:31] <azureal> Enselic, also, as you will see, only .so and .xpt files go into the plugins directory; that directory is usually /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins or /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[10:31] <THX-1138> tk - Gotta be some journaling record in the registry. - anyone for a conspiracy theory?
[10:31] <pike_> abo: there is beagle ummm... you can do locate .. im sure there are others :)
[10:32] <OmniD> THX-1138, no
[10:32] <iLLf8d> xnt, its also an installer
[10:32] <YoG> freeman: I'll try dynamic DHCP, though I don't think this is the problem...
[10:32] <abo> monofonik_, the installation is a bit simpler than the previous version, if you did it before,   ... now there are not a different live cd other that the install cd, they are one
[10:32] <maxLF> How do you install wine 0.9.22? I have the tar and i click the install thing and nothing happens I made sure execute is enabeled
[10:32] <azureal> Enselic, you should be able to install mplayerplug-in via apt-get, iirc, and then see that those plugin directories will have changed
[10:32] <abo> pike_, ok thanks
[10:32] <xnt> iLL8d: Thanks but, if i already have it on my system, even the old one, how can i use it??
[10:33] <monofonik_> okay where do i get that? does it have a graphical installer now?
[10:33] <THX-1138> OmniD, Someone else knows better than i. What application? (Former AOL user recently escaped and loving ubuntu.)
[10:33] <Enselic> azureal: it apperars to work somewhat good now; MPLayer is started, but the streaming quality is crap though :(
[10:33] <Enselic> azureal: in about:plugins I have lots of ones now though, so that's a good star
[10:33] <freeman> THX-1138: aol doesn't work on ubuntu? hehe.
[10:33] <OmniD> THX-1138, BlitzMAX
[10:34] <OmniD> It seemed to install
[10:34] <THX-1138> maxLF - Psst, Cedega is a bargain. if only for ease of use. especially if you play WoW - patching wine source is no fun.
[10:34] <iLLf8d> xnt, its tne newer E anyway
[10:34] <Enselic> azureal: thanks for your help
[10:34] <monofonik_> whats the difference between the cd release and the dvd?
[10:34] <iLLf8d> xnt, if you've got a pre-established system tweaked it won't be helpful
[10:35] <whyso> ive heard automatrix sucks, but why? and what alternatives are there? (link ot list good :) )
[10:35] <Enselic> whyso: try easyubuntu
[10:35] <whyso> thanks
[10:35] <freeman> whyso: I'm using automatix as we speak, what's wrong with automatix
[10:35] <iLLf8d> xnt, unless you've setup skel correctly and can dump a packagelist to transfer over (ie have reinstall infos/stuffs setup for transfer)
[10:35] <freeman> ?
[10:35] <whyso> i dont know freeman
[10:35] <pike_> whyso: its about as easy just to search wiki.ubuntu.com and do it yourself imho
[10:35] <OmniD> freeman, did all your command do was uncompress the file?
[10:36] <whyso> ive just heard VOOODOOO STAY AWAY IT BREAK YOUR MACHIENE
[10:36] <THX-1138> freeman - I had the shortest "I woud like to quit aol phone call in the entire decades long history of aol - told them i use ubuntu and they didn't even play the we have new products recording.
[10:36] <iLLf8d> xnt, then you'd need a reinstall obviously and it wouldn't be ubuntu =P
[10:36] <OmniD> Because I already did that, but I think the files belong elsewhere
[10:36] <freeman> OmniD: and install it, of course
[10:36] <whyso> o thanks didnt know there wiki for ubuntu
[10:36] <OmniD> I don't think it actually installed anywhere
[10:36] <azureal> ah, he quit
[10:37] <freeman> OmniD: what software is this? (your trying to install)
[10:37] <THX-1138> freeman - erm - some may suspect the repositories aren't um - "solid" - paranoia possibly but the sentiment is there. - it likely will install packages that make ubuntu difficult to upgrade.
[10:37] <OmniD> Nevermind I found a guide
[10:38] <xnt> iLLf8d, ty
[10:39] <iLLf8d> thanks for the thanks sorry I'm not helpful =P how hard do you find E to tame?
[10:39] <darkos> buenas
[10:39] <THX-1138> !es
[10:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:39] <THX-1138> !pt
[10:39] <darkos> ok
[10:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:39] <iLLf8d> xnt, they seem very kdeish in the fact theres a billion customizations you can do
[10:40] <walvaro> Bufff
[10:40] <sydtsai> hi
[10:40] <walvaro> hi
[10:40] <walvaro> linux is very difficult
[10:40] <THX-1138> darkos - we would like to help you here. - We just won't be very good.
[10:40] <walvaro> :(
[10:40] <xnt> iLLf8d, i just wanted to test it since my supervisor recommended it
[10:40] <sydtsai> does anyone having problem with easy ubuntu?
[10:40] <xnt> iLLf8d, but i'm thinking about using SuSE now...
[10:40] <walvaro> i have 2 problems
[10:40] <sydtsai> i can't get the key verify...
[10:40] <darkos> thank... my english is very bad
[10:40] <darkos> much beter for.es
[10:41] <THX-1138> Linux+different spoken language is really tough.
[10:41] <iLLf8d> ah
[10:41] <iLLf8d> xnt, do you have much nix exposure?
[10:41] <YoG> freeman: when I do ifup wlan0, i get: 'error for wireless request "set ESSID" '
[10:41] <xnt> iLLf8d, I don't know what do you mean with nix exposure... I'm not a native-english speaker :P
[10:42] <xroach> dont like this att all, just when i get everything running fine Wireless wont work anymore :(
[10:42] <iLLf8d> nix as in linux/bsd/unix/etc...
[10:42] <YoG> freeman: then a bunch of "DHCPDISCOVER"
[10:42] <designdream> finally!
[10:42] <THX-1138> xnt - how long have you used linux
[10:42] <xroach> Yog i got the same problem
[10:43] <YoG> xroach: do you see the card on the router side?
[10:43] <xnt> iLLf8d, about 4 years but just as a normal user... I'm a developer and used to be with doors... but now I'm beggining serious work...
[10:43] <Sugar^> Can anyone point me to a guide, on how to set you default terminal encoding, to something else that utf-8
[10:43] <xroach> not anymore
[10:43] <YoG> xroach: and when you use static ip?
[10:43] <hollaback83> I need wave to text software for ubuntu were do i get it from??????????????
[10:43] <iLLf8d> xnt, ah cool sounds like you have a fun job
[10:43] <xroach> i got my card even running but then i screwed something over and no wont work anymore
[10:44] <THX-1138> xnt - Sounds Thats great.:)
[10:44] <iLLf8d> xnt, you don't normally find supervisors telling people to install a linux dist
[10:44] <pike_> YoG: you have done sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys or whatever?
[10:44] <THX-1138> !bash
[10:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:44] <THX-1138> !xterm
[10:44] <ubotu> xterm: X terminal emulator. In component main, is optional. Version 208-3.1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 387 kB, installed size 960 kB
[10:44] <icCE> re
[10:44] <xnt> iLLf8d, my supervisor is great, although he uses MacOS, but i don't have enough cash for a mac... matter of fact just got a new pc...
[10:44] <YoG> pike: no, I'll try that...
[10:45] <hollaback83> i need a wave to text software for ubuntu were do i get it from?????????????????????/
[10:45] <Sugar^> thx, ill have a look
[10:45] <mtymobile> hi
[10:45] <iLLf8d> xnt, yeah macs can be pricey and they can be annoying if you don't like the ui but if you can get past that they're nice (and the lack of docs)
[10:45] <xroach> Yog yes i see my card from router
[10:45] <xroach> Yog yes i see my card from router
[10:46] <xnt> iLLf8d, maybe in some years i'll use mac... aint know yet...
[10:46] <hollaback83> i need speech recognition software for ubuntu were do i get it from?????????????????????????
[10:46] <YoG> xroach: so yes, it looks like the same problem... :(
[10:46] <xroach> what card are u using?
[10:46] <mtymobile> can you tell me why powersaved worked perfectly on suse while on ubuntu when i wake up from suspendtoram the screen is completly blank?
[10:46] <xroach> im using a buffalo G54 pcmia
[10:46] <iLLf8d> xnt, I'll probably get one too since you can run linux and osx on them now although they're definately too pricey
[10:46] <AsheD> I am trying to use Serpentine to make an audio disk, but it tells me that the converting files failed
[10:46] <xroach> and found the right drivers by googling for 2days
[10:47] <THX-1138> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Speech-Recognition-HOWTO/index.html
[10:47] <YoG> xroach: Acer Warplink USB Adapter
[10:47] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, you may wanna try to make an alias and hotkey to launch a term install vbetool and make sure its just not a backlight issue
[10:47] <xroach> im thinking off reinstalling ubuntu
[10:48] <GeorgeM36Gr> anyone with ab9 pro and e6600 in here?
[10:48] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, ie vbetool dpms on/off
[10:48] <xnt> iLLf8d, hope they get cheaper... Here in Mexico most people can't even afford to have a PC...
[10:48] <hollaback83> is there any speech recognition software for ubuntu
[10:48] <slacktyro> Hi all, i'm having problem with sound at my pc
[10:48] <THX-1138> hollaback83,  ^^^^^^^^^
[10:48] <mtymobile> iLLf8d, what is vbetool?
[10:48] <slacktyro> it works fine until i click at mixer, after that no sound is possible
[10:48] <GeorgeM36Gr> anyone with ab9 pro and e6600 in here?
[10:48] <slacktyro> anyone can help me?
[10:49] <iLLf8d> apt-cache show vbetool
[10:49] <freeman> bbl
[10:49] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, it may not be that simple tho
[10:49] <xroach> Yog are do U use ndiswapper
[10:49] <THX-1138> freeman tc
[10:49] <marshall> ubuntu is great
[10:49] <iLLf8d> I've been running into issues where suspend to ram works or suspend to disk (in different kernels I compile) but never both
[10:49] <iLLf8d> its wierd
[10:50] <mtymobile> iLLf8d, vbetools is installed
[10:50] <sureshot> does anyone know what the biggest fat32 pattion can be
[10:50] <YoG> pike: iwconfig gives me "operation no supported" for "set ESSID" :(
[10:50] <walvaro> sorry, i have mounted the hda of win2000 partition in the media/windows archive, and now i cant copy the files of this partition to the usbdisk because the usbdisk says: "You are not the owner, so you cannot change these permissions."
[10:51] <GeorgeM36Gr> need help to install ubuntu on a p965 board with jmircon and e6600 can anyone help?
[10:51] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, if you open a term and try vbetools dpms off and vbetools dpms on  (keeping in mind the screen will go blank after the first one) so you gotta make sure you don't mistype
[10:51] <YoG> xroach: I don't know... if its not installed by default then I'm not using it.
[10:51] <THX-1138> sureshot - i only vaguely remember - 120gigs?
[10:51] <walvaro> how can i be the "owner of the usbdisk?
[10:51] <e-head> How risky is upgrading to php5 ?
[10:51] <iLLf8d> you'll see it'll turn your lcd on/off
[10:51] <e-head> What do I need to do ?
[10:51] <iLLf8d> off/on I mean
[10:51] <iLLf8d> for some reason xset dpms stuff doesn't work on all lappys
[10:51] <xroach> u trying to get wpa to work?
[10:52] <Shogran> eh.. my webcam doesnt work
[10:52] <casey420> u geeks like good music? ;o
[10:52] <ChickenTalons> WPA works like feces in linux, wireless too, its a total pain in the ass to get working
[10:52] <sureshot> thanks THX-1138 i think that is why it wont format it is a 250 gb drive already had to jumper it so it is only 1.5gb instead of 3.0
[10:52] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, hey just outta curiosity which make/model lappy you got?
[10:53] <mtymobile> iLLf8d, dialogue flybook
[10:53] <iLLf8d> heh
[10:53] <iLLf8d> sounds like in living color =P
[10:53] <YoG> xroach: no, I don't use wep.
[10:53] <mtymobile> iLLf8d, ???
[10:53] <iLLf8d> the tv series with the fly girls
[10:54] <iLLf8d> never head of it before is it decent?
[10:54] <mtymobile> iLLf8d, how do you add vbetool to wakeup scripts?
[10:54] <owen_> ok a website requires flash player 6 - i tried installing swf-player and it still wont work on firefox. any ideas?
[10:54] <iLLf8d> you gotta figure out which sleep its using the acpi or apm one and they add it to the right script
[10:54] <THX-1138> http://www.allensmith.net/Storage/HDDlimit/FAT32.htm  127gigs
[10:54] <iLLf8d> in mine it was in /etc/acpi path
[10:55] <aetherfox> hey guys, i needed some help trying to understand why the partition tool doesn't want to work properly for me
[10:55] <sureshot> thanks man
[10:55] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, it may not be the fix you may wanna test it first by setting up a hotkey to launch a term and an alias to run vbetools (I set mine to vbeon and vbeoff)
[10:55] <sureshot> THX-1138 have to take to much pain med today i am going to nap a few then reset it up thanks alot tough ok
[10:56] <iLLf8d> that way you sleep the lappy get it to come back then hotkey open your term and type vbeon (and see if anything happens) or try sshing in (probably a better check since you'll know if you get ssh/commandline back then)
[10:56] <aetherfox> i try to resize my ntfs partition to make space for the ubuntu partition, and it gives me an error saying new partition could not be made
[10:56] <THX-1138> iLLf8d, Do you know the alias for mouse button two? Can it be used in gconf-editor /apps/metacity?
[10:57] <aetherfox> strange thing is, if i do just the resize without creating the new partition, i get no error message, but when gparted refreshes, the partition didn't seem to make any changes...
[10:57] <aetherfox> i am on a laptop, trying to install 6.06.1
[10:57] <aetherfox> any help?
[10:57] <iLLf8d> hrm theres an alias for mouse button didn't know that?
[10:57] <YoG> xroach: do you get "operation no supported" for "set ESSID" when you do ifup?
[10:57] <Fornen> Im trying to install a package but keep getting a errors how do i check what the errors are?
[10:57] <iLLf8d> I'm not overly gnome savvy accept for what I've been working on recently
[10:58] <slacktyro> Hi all, i'm having problem with sound at my pc
[10:58] <slacktyro> it works fine until i click at mixer, after that no sound is possible
[10:58] <iLLf8d> THX-1138, I dunno how you'd alias a mouse button anyway?
[10:58] <iLLf8d> THX-1138, what you'd type button and it'd do an event over the term anyway so I don't see the point
[10:58] <THX-1138> iLLf8d, lol  - I just don't seem to know the magic word. "Bad Syntax"
[10:58] <owen_> how do i install flash 7 on an amd64 bit dapper box?
[10:59] <iLLf8d> THX-1138, oh whatya trying to do?
[10:59] <walvaro> tururu
[10:59] <tjpp> any1 using edgy amd64 ?
[10:59] <THX-1138> iLLf8d, tie transset/xcompmgr to mouse button 2
[11:00] <|thunder> wassup all, what commands do I need to scandisk a NTFS drive ?
[11:00] <birdfish> Hey guys, a quick question.  Just wondering how I would go about installing a process (such as an IRC bouncer) so that once the service is started, the client can log out of his account without the process dying.
[11:00] <birdfish> Hopefully that made sense
[11:00] <birdfish> Anyone have any ideas?
[11:00] <THX-1138> birdfish - "screen" and irssi
[11:00] <xroach> Yog why dont u try ndiswapper
[11:00] <AsheD> I am trying to use Serpentine to make an audio disk, but it tells me that the converting files failed
[11:01] <iLLf8d> THX-1138, ah I gotcha and thats gonna do what some fancy desktop switching thing?
[11:01] <Fornen> anyone help me with a package install problem?
[11:01] <YoG> xroach: I don't know what it is...
[11:01] <tjpp> I got a soft cpu lockuy on edgy amd64
[11:01] <THX-1138> iLLf8d, Adds transparency to a clicked window.
[11:01] <iLLf8d> gotcha
[11:01] <birdfish> THX-1138: Thanks, but I'd rather use a bouncer and allow the client to utilize whatever client they'd like.  The idea is to get away from logging into the actual server and to just authenticate to a bouncer.
[11:01] <iLLf8d> THX-1138, uhm theres a way to do that gotta remember hrm
[11:02] <iLLf8d> THX-1138, lemme do a few apt-cache searches theres a way to capture mouse events
[11:02] <iLLf8d> THX-1138, other then the standard debug stuffs
[11:02] <THX-1138> iLLf8d, transset-df won't compile cleanly. it would/should allow transparency to follow the mouse.
[11:04] <xroach> YoG it allows u to use windows drivers for the wifi card of yours
[11:04] <pianoboy3333> Here's my issue, my music folder is mostly mp3's, but then some really, really, good albums I ripped as flacs. In a separate folder I have the mp3's of those flacs for transferring to my mp3 player. What is the best way to make some sort of folder that is only mp3's? Links?
[11:04] <|thunder> what is the liux equiv of chkdsk ?
[11:04] <THX-1138> fsck
[11:04] <iLLf8d> THX-1138, oh good luck then I dunno if its a buggy feature go fish I don't have any practical experience with it to helpya out sorry
[11:04] <pianoboy3333> |thunder: but don't run it on a mounted hard drive
[11:04] <|thunder> thanks.
[11:04] <|thunder> no ?
[11:05] <|thunder> unmounted ?
[11:05] <YoG> xroach: I think I'll try installing tht 6.06 first...
[11:05] <pianoboy3333> |thunder: yes
[11:05] <THX-1138> iLLf8d,  Thank You for taking a look at it.
[11:05] <pianoboy3333> |thunder: if you need to run it on your main hard drive, then use a live cd and do it that way
[11:05] <iLLf8d> THX-1138, just keep google searching for the issue I'm sure someone else is having it too
[11:05] <|thunder> im going to run it live on a friends ntfs drive. does it support NTFS ?
[11:06] <pianoboy3333> |thunder: I have no clue
[11:06] <Rambo> can anyone recommend a wireless network card that works in Ubuntu?
[11:06] <jesse__> hello trying to upgrade to breezy, and getting the following error:
[11:06] <jesse__>  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libaspell-dev_0.60.3-5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:06] <jesse__>  failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `kdelibs-data': Input/output error
[11:06] <jesse__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:06] <jesse__>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libaspell-dev_0.60.3-5_i386.deb
[11:06] <jesse__> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[11:06] <jesse__> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:06] <jesse__> any ideas what todo?
[11:06] <LjL> !paste
[11:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:06] <HedgeMage> jesse__: please don't flood... anything over 4 lines belongs in a pastebin
[11:06] <jesse__> oops
[11:06] <|thunder> ok, thanks pianoboy3333
[11:06] <HedgeMage> :) thanks, LjL
[11:06] <jesse__> my bad
[11:07] <buu> Is there any particular reason root won't take my username/password through the webinterface?
[11:07] <pike_> pianoboy3333: like for i in `ls | grep .mp3`; do ln -s $i directory/$i; done or something?
[11:07] <wasabi_> There anyway to get ELILO working on an Intel EM64T?
[11:07] <THX-1138> jesse__, I got a little farther. still more errors ahead with fonts. - gave up and grabbed the iso image.
[11:07] <LjL> jesse__: uhm, i don't know, but isn't your HD full by any chance?
[11:08] <azureal> webinterface? what's that
[11:08] <jesse__> LjL no, HD is definitly not full
[11:08] <THX-1138> webmin for samba
[11:08] <birdfish> THX-1138: you seem knowledgeable however, so would you have any idea how to make the bouncer run as a process?
[11:09] <LjL> jesse__: dunno, try "sudo apt-get clean" and then try again (note: this will make you re-download the stuff)
[11:09] <slacktyro>  i'm trying to acess a internet adress but it's returning me a time out problem as the adress didn't work, the link is www.falconryquestions.co.uk can anyone help me?
[11:10] <THX-1138> birdfish - "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.."  (AOL refugee recent convert to open source. - fun but i don't know nearly enough)
[11:10] <buu> slacktyro: the website is not responding.
[11:10] <Gumby> slacktyro: do you have any idea waht the URL resolves to?
[11:10] <Gumby> the website works here
[11:10] <buu> Really?
[11:11] <Gumby> yep
[11:11] <ericz> it works here too
[11:11] <buu> test$ nslookup A www.falconryquestions.co.uk
[11:11] <buu> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[11:11] <slacktyro> it's strange, windows users work
[11:11] <wasabi_> Anybody have experience getting Dapper booting on a Intel Xeon Woodcrest server with EFI?
[11:11] <wasabi_> In 64bit mode of course.
[11:11] <|thunder> anyone know if fsck and diagnose a ro ntfs part ? or if there is an equiv that does ? hopefully one that is on the ubuntu live CD.
[11:11] <|thunder> *can diagnose
[11:11] <slacktyro> i don't have any idea how it can work
[11:11] <ttank> I would like to know how to setup the modem init strings. Where do i put them?
[11:12] <SubNet> hi there! sdptool can not connect to sdpserver on xx:xx:... on route to host
[11:12] <SubNet> any ideas
[11:12] <slacktyro> it used to work when i use slack 10.1, when i installed slack 10.2 it stop to work, now with ubuntu it's not working too
[11:12] <SubNet> I'm trying to connect my mobile via bluetooth
[11:13] <micahcowan> Can any one tell me why I can't edit the command-line in dash, even if I "set -o vi" or "set -o emacs"?
[11:13] <THX-1138> !bluetooth
[11:13] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:13] <ntc> anyone knows which of all consolefonts that can draw ascii art
[11:13] <ntc> like nfo files?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> micahcowan: dapper doesnt use dash
[11:13] <micahcowan> According to the docs, I should be able to.
[11:13] <micahcowan> gnomefreak, dash is available in dapper, however (I'm currently running dapper atm)
[11:15] <ntc> or maybe even ansi art
[11:15] <ntc> that would be an app
[11:15] <ntc> but ascii art
[11:15] <pike_> micahcowan: emacs? are you some kind of hippie?
[11:15] <ntc> I would really like to know if there is such console font
[11:16] <micahcowan> pike_: "set -o emacs" sets up "emacs-style bindings" on many shells. The kind that are probably default on whatever shell you use... Anyway, I prefer "set -o vi".
[11:17] <ntc> kk there is no such font?
[11:17] <pike_> micahcowan: ah. appreciate the explanation
[11:17] <micahcowan> ntc, afaik, all of them should support that.
[11:18] <ntc> thats wierd then
[11:18] <micahcowan> ntc, graphic characters are typically a "mode" that you have to put the terminal into to use those characters.
[11:18] <SubNet> ubotu: sudo hidd --search -> Searching ... -> No devices in range or visible
[11:18] <ntc> well its for my framebuffers
[11:18] <buu> Hrm. What do I need to do to make pam work?
[11:18] <ntc> the motd is ascii
[11:18] <ntc> and the current one looks like hell :P
[11:19] <micahcowan> ntc, can you attach the ASCII art you're trying to view to a pastebin?
[11:19] <gotiniens> does anybody know if some command's arent allowed in cron? I have a script using iwconfig wich doesnt work with cron. If I run it by hand is all goes perfect
[11:19] <ntc> excuse me, im kinda new
[11:19] <SubNet> ubotu: sudo hidd --search ->Searching ... -> No devices in range or visible
[11:19] <ntc> pastebin? sry
[11:19] <micahcowan> !pastebin
[11:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:19] <_aasics_> Is there a way to lock the desktop when a jumpdrive (usb)  is removed/
[11:20] <micahcowan> gotiniens, what is the command you're trying in cron?
[11:20] <gotiniens> iwconfig
[11:20] <micahcowan> where is the script?
[11:20] <ntc> kk micahcowan i'll do that
[11:20] <SubNet> ubotu: But teh mobile is online and the PC as well
[11:20] <wasabi_> Anybody have experience getting Dapper booting on a Intel Xeon Woodcrest server with EFI, in 64bit mode?
[11:20] <gotiniens> there's no output at all from iwconfig if the script is run by cron
[11:21] <gotiniens> micahcowan, the script is in ~/bin/
[11:21] <gotiniens> which is in my $PATH
[11:21] <micahcowan> where is your PATH set? ~/.bashrc?
[11:21] <Basic_py> Saw reference to 64-bit version of vmware for ubuntu, where can I find the package?
[11:21] <ntc> I havent done this, just testing with a scene nfo file
[11:21] <ntc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26508/
[11:21] <ntc> micahcowan,
[11:22] <gotiniens> micahcowan, doesn't really matter, it doesn't even run how it should when i give the absolute path of the script
[11:22] <micahcowan> gotiniens, you don't use "~" in that absolute path, though, right?
[11:23] <mtymobile> iLLf8d, what can i use to setup hotkeys?
[11:23] <gotiniens> nope, otherwise it would be an relative path :P
[11:23] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, to launch apps of for special features?
[11:23] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, like play/stop/volume etc?
[11:23] <micahcowan> well, technically it's an absolute path after the shell expands it, but that's neither here nor there...
[11:23] <iLLf8d> s/of/or
[11:24] <micahcowan> ntc, does it look in the pastebin the way you want it to look on your terminal?
[11:24] <mtymobile> iLLf8d, basically i want support for fn laptop hotkeys
[11:24] <ntc> nope, well its in right form kinda, but its not drawn right
[11:24] <ntc> i read on the forums i need lucida p consle font to draw this correctly
[11:25] <ntc> and thats ture
[11:25] <micahcowan> ntc, ntc, could you actually add the text file as an /attachment/ to the pastebin, then, instead of copy/pasting?
[11:25] <ntc> thats the only font i used so fat that can draw ascii correctly
[11:25] <nn> How can i delete changes i made to the default gdm greeter? It now explodes with a "Greeter keeps crashing" message and i just want to go back to dapper's default without it exploding :(
[11:25] <ntc> sure micahcowan
[11:25] <slacktyro> Gumby: do you know how to solve that problem?
[11:25] <gan|y|med> hello
[11:25] <nn> No ideas? :/
[11:25] <gan|y|med> is it possible to play drm protected material in linux/ubuntu?
[11:26] <ntc> micahcowan, there is no funciotn to do that
[11:26] <gu014> is anyone using SageTV?
[11:26] <kmaynard> nn, what did you do?
[11:26] <gotiniens> micahcowan, i am really sure my script is right, and my cron is right, because the script runs. but the only problem is there is no output from iwconfig. It should be in the log file where I redirect all the output
[11:26] <nn> kmaynard: switched themes from the preferences in gnome
[11:26] <micahcowan> ntc, you're right, that looks like it probably really is a font issue. Something that uses graphics characters in /place/ of the typical ISO 8859 stuff, and not just for 'graphics mode'. :/
[11:26] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, the multimedia keys section of this one looks right http://eulex.0nyx.com/inspiron6000.html
[11:26] <ntc> hmm okey
[11:26] <nn> kmaynard: after which it no longer works, giving a Greeter Keeps Crashing error and falling back to the default greeter, ironically the one it falls back to looks just like what i had selected and tried to go back to...\
[11:27] <micahcowan> ntc, you're right-huh! there used to be a way to do that.
[11:27] <Gumby> slacktyro: well, you should try to use traceroute on the URL and see where it fails
[11:27] <gotiniens> I have a line like this: echo *** `iwconfig` *** and the log only shows ***  ***
[11:27] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, I've got my lappy setup similarly
[11:27] <ntc> hehe
[11:27] <ntc> well
[11:27] <kmaynard> nn, does it let you login then?
[11:27] <_aasics_> Is there a way to lock the desktop when a jumpdrive (usb)  is removed/
[11:27] <ntc> there must be a way to do this
[11:27] <iLLf8d> mtymobile, its kinda nice cause theres an onscreen readout as to what its doing overlayed over the top of everything
[11:27] <ntc> cus that is basicly viewd corectly in old dos font
[11:27] <pike_> gan|y|med: yes
[11:28] <micahcowan> ntc, there should be a way to change your console's font; I've never had occaision to do it (except in xterm, etc), so I won't be much help...
[11:28] <Gumby> slacktyro: but you are probably sol until wherever it fails is corrected
[11:28] <ntc> okey :( well thanks for trying micahcowan
[11:28] <ntc> =)
[11:28] <kmaynard> nn, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[11:28] <ntc> i'll have to do a thread on the forums then
[11:29] <micahcowan> gotiniens, how do you do the redirections?
[11:29] <gan|y|med> pike_: how?
[11:29] <pike_> gan|y|med: like a dvd?
[11:29] <nn> kmaynard: sadly nothing, x is working ok, it's a gdm thing
[11:29] <nn> maybe uninstall gdm and reinstall?
[11:29] <gotiniens> micahcowan, with >>
[11:30] <micahcowan> Are you redirecting stderr as well as stdout?
[11:30] <gotiniens> nope only >>
[11:30] <gotiniens> thats stdout right?
[11:30] <squee_> How do I make ubuntu start in text mode by default? (so i have to tell it startx if i want x)
[11:31] <micahcowan> gotiniens, hm... it's possible that iwconfig has something on stderr... but if that's the case, you should have gotten the output in your mailspool.
[11:31] <kmaynard> nn, if it lets you login, can you switch back to the original screen?
[11:31] <micahcowan> *mailfile
[11:31] <kmaynard> and yes, i would try a reintsall
[11:31] <kmaynard> of gdm
[11:31] <frying_fish> squee_: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:31] <frying_fish> unless gdm is broken
[11:31] <darkaura> Hi holycow sorry to bug you can you help me again
[11:31] <frying_fish> in which case startx will do it, and should load gnome by default, but with bits not quite fully working.
[11:31] <nn> kmaynard: I can login, what happens is the default greeter crashes several times, so it uses a fallback
[11:31] <nn> hold one
[11:32] <kmaynard> sounds like a video driver
[11:32] <nn> kmaynard: is the greeter app part of gdm or?
[11:32] <squee_> fryingfish: wont that just start the gdm?  Dont i want to somehow not start it by default?
[11:32] <kmaynard> yes, its gdm
[11:32] <wastrel> squee_:  sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[11:33] <Shadow_mil> varrun                121M   88K  121M   1% /var/run
[11:33] <Shadow_mil> varlock               121M  4.0K  121M   1% /var/lock
[11:33] <Shadow_mil> udev                  121M  124K  121M   1% /dev
[11:33] <Shadow_mil> devshm                121M     0  121M   0% /dev/shm
[11:33] <Shadow_mil> lrm                   121M   19M  103M  16% /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile
[11:33] <Shadow_mil>   Do these really need to be so big?
[11:33] <wastrel> squee_:  or you could apt-get remove gdm
[11:33] <squee_> wastrel: "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)" just force it?
[11:33] <micahcowan> gotiniens, is it in root's crontab (in /etc/...), or in your user crontab?
[11:34] <squee_> wastrel: I tried apt-get remove gdm and it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <holycow> darkaura, nope sorry, workin
[11:34] <gotiniens> micahcowan, in my users
[11:34] <darkaura> okay
[11:34] <npodges> on this machine, my internet is working, but i cant connect to the router or ping any other local computers. the router's set up fine, so it's something on this computer. any idea what's wrong?
[11:34] <nn> /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom has [daemon]  Greeter=/usr/lib/gdm/gdmlogin
[11:34] <wastrel> squee_:  ubuntu-desktop is a wrapper package you can safely remove
[11:34] <squee_> ok thanks
[11:34] <ntc> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276302
[11:34] <micahcowan> gotiniens, is /var/mail/<username> empty? I'm assuming you probably don't check your local mail on this machine much, if it's a desktop.
[11:35] <nn> whats that properly?
[11:35] <segfault_> squee_, ubuntu-desktop is a meta pkg which depends on all of the packages that make up the ubuntu desktop which includes gdm
[11:35] <gan|y|med> pike_: no, it is a file. it is supposed to work in windows (couldn't try it though), but in ubuntu i get file is encrypted
[11:35] <squee_> ok, that makes sense
[11:35] <gb521> hi, is this the place for ubuntu support?
[11:35] <kmaynard> !ask
[11:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:35] <gotiniens> micahcowan, I just checked it's empty
[11:35] <segfault_> gb521, yep
[11:36] <pike_> gan|y|med: what kind of file? you can use the file command "file filename" for info
[11:36] <darkaura> I got an RCA 1gig lyra mp3 player, and I was wondering if there is anyway to get amorak support for it
[11:36] <gb521> i just got ubuntu, which happens to be my first linux, so im really confused about the whole thing.  i wanted to change the automatic boot to windows, and i dont understand the directions on the support page
[11:36] <micahcowan> gotiniens, what does the exact same iwconfig command do if you invoke it as: "iwconfig </dev/null 2>/dev/null"?
[11:36] <ntc> if you have time guys, take a look at this, i'd be grateful .... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276302
[11:36] <gan|y|med> how is the beginning of the command (always forget it)?
[11:37] <gotiniens> micahcowan, on my terminal or in cron?
[11:37] <micahcowan> gotiniens, in your terminal
[11:37] <pike_> gb521: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   look for a line that says default  0 and change that to whatever entry number windows is. first entry is 0 second is 1 etc
[11:38] <ixian_> can someone help me with getting Tor to work on ubuntu? i followed this page ( http://corvillus.com/2006/09/18/how-to-set-up-tor-and-privoxy-on-ubuntu-linux/ ) but i get this error when i type 'tor' in terminal: [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this user (jeff, 1000) but by debian-tor (114). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?
[11:38] <gb521> where do i do that?  i dont know where to enter that
[11:38] <wastrel> what's tor?
[11:38] <micahcowan> !tor
[11:38] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[11:38] <gandalfcome> I have a big problem with mldonkey (the package from ubuntus repo) does anyone know the solution to installing/removing it
[11:38] <pike_> gb521: open a terminal and type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst that will open a text editor editing the menu.lst file
[11:39] <npodges> gb521> applications >accessories >terminal
[11:39] <ixian_> how do i start torrrrr
[11:40] <gb521> pike, im getting a prompt for a password
[11:40] <pike_> gb521: type your user password
[11:41] <nn> kmaynard: had to cp the /etc/gdm to ~, del /etc/gdm, reinstall package, cp the gdm.conf and Xkeepscrashing and Xsession files back to /etc/gdm but it works, cheers!
[11:41] <pike_> gb521: did it open?
[11:41] <slacktyro> my mozilla is giving timeout error at site that is ok, how can i solve it????
[11:41] <deadly_venom> After I've typed apt-get upgrade gaim .. ubuntu doesn't want to start firefox ? .. How do I fix this... and Also When i go to synaptic package maanager, I get Read error - read (5 input/output error) .. The package lists could not be opened.
[11:41] <iamtheric> your connect sucks
[11:42] <tim57> hi all
[11:42] <tk> fixed my NTFS problem..... turned out my linux never mounted the partition so it was just writing locally
[11:42] <tim57> I have a question regarding dd
[11:43] <iamtheric> ok
[11:43] <tim57> the command
[11:43] <enyc> tim57: listening ;-)
[11:43] <pike_> tim57: ?
[11:43] <gan|y|med> pike_: how does the command start?
[11:43] <tim57> @enyc: Isn't that command supposed to be root only?
[11:43] <enyc> tim57: no -- but many devcise you might use may normally only be usable by root
[11:43] <gb521> ok, i got it
[11:43] <deadly_venom> After I've typed apt-get upgrade gaim .. ubuntu doesn't want to start firefox ? .. How do I fix this... and Also When i go to synaptic package maanager, I get Read error - read (5 input/output error) .. The package lists could not be opened.
[11:44] <pike_> gan|y|med: if i wanted to know what kind of file filename.tar was i could open a terminal and tye "file filename.tar"
[11:44] <enyc> tim57: e.g. if you aretrying te dd /dev/hda  that would normally only be allowaed for 'root' iirc
[11:44] <jesse__> is running a dist-upgrade with apt-get a good idea to get from hoary to breezy?
[11:44] <iamtheric> deadly_venom, apt-get upgrade upgrades your whole system
[11:44] <tim57> ah ok... I just did a "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda"
[11:44] <tim57> and wondered the activity ;-)
[11:44] <deadly_venom> iamtheobject This problem only happened, when i typed apt-get upgrade gaim
[11:44] <enyc> jesse__: yes... hoary>breezy ... then  breezy>dapper  separately ;-)
[11:45] <enyc> tim57: however... sda might be a plugin device or something you have permissions to use directly?
[11:45] <tim57> I did it from a Live CD... but no prob, I did that intentionally
[11:45] <iamtheric> deadly_venom, try getting a new firefox
[11:45] <ker0uac> I have a laptop running dapper, with an i915 video card. I'm trying to install the newest driver, but when I ./install.sh the driver, it says "The DRI drivers cannot be installed without the latest kernel modules."  What does this mean, and how do I correct it?
[11:45] <tim57> sda in my case is a 110gb external hdd
[11:45] <anon32> the flash plugin only has support up to 4?
[11:45] <tim57> which I wanted to erase
[11:45] <deadly_venom> iamtheobject When i go to synaptic package maanager, I get Read error - read (5 input/output error) .. The package lists could not be opened. .. even from terminal, when i type apt-get , same error.
[11:45] <anon32> the hell?
[11:46] <gan|y|med> pike_: it is a wmv file. what else should i want to know?
[11:46] <Gumby> deadly_venom: are you using sudo?
[11:46] <tim57> @enyc: thank you for your help - where can I set rights to/for devices?
[11:46] <Gumby> deadly_venom: is your hard drive full?
[11:46] <iamtheric> deadly_venom, then get a new apt
[11:46] <iamtheric> try a apt get update
[11:46] <deadly_venom> Gumby yup
[11:47] <pike_> gan|y|med: oh well not sure about that other than using wine for mediaplayer or something
[11:47] <Gumby> deadly_venom: I'd try sudo apt-get update and when its done sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:47] <iamtheric> deadly_venom, that would do it
[11:47] <ker0uac> How do I get the latest "kernel modules" for my video card?
[11:48] <deadly_venom> Gumby is dist-upgrade = distribtuion upgrade?
[11:48] <tim57> 'cause I'm going to do a full install of Ubuntu... waiting for the 110gb usb hdd to erase left me alone with Ubuntu for playing and I likes it
[11:48] <gan|y|med> pike_ a friend of mine tried it, doesnt work with mediaplayer except you'll have a "security" update
[11:48] <gan|y|med> does anybody know how to play dmr protected files in linux???
[11:48] <crewer> Hello. I got a server with 5.04. I need a mirror so i can install php5. Someone got amirror?
[11:48] <gb521> pike, i see the default 0 - is there a way i can tell which is windows
[11:48] <Gumby> deadly_venom: I recommend reading the man pages of apt-get. I recommend ready the man page of any program before you jump into it so you understand what it is going to do as you dont seem to understand what apt-get upgrade does.
[11:49] <tim57> @gan|y|med: unDRM them ;-)
[11:49] <iamtheric> i had an apt problem recently
[11:49] <deadly_venom> Gumby When i type dmesg, i get this --> ide: failed opcode was: unknown .. end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 24773535
[11:49] <gan|y|med> tim57: how?
[11:49] <anon32> err, does GNASH have a browser plugin?
[11:49] <tim57> for MS DRM there is a tool... but I guess it runs on Win only
[11:49] <tim57> Maybe with Wine
[11:49] <Gumby> deadly_venom: sounds like a corrupted partition.  I'd boot from a livecd and run an fsck on it
[11:50] <Gumby> deadly_venom: and possibly get ready to replace a hard drive :(
[11:50] <TheGateKeeper> deadly_venom: may be time to give badblocks a try
[11:50] <deadly_venom> Gumby This NEVER happened. This only happened, when i typed -> apt-get upgrade gaim.
[11:50] <pike_>  gb521 count the entries like there will be three for ubuntu   starting with title     ubuntusomething then windows if there are only 4 then since it starts at 0 it would be default 4
[11:50] <deadly_venom> That's when i get the errror
[11:51] <anon32> hell, why isn't gnash in the repos?
[11:51] <Gumby> deadly_venom: apt-get upgrade gaim is not a proper apt-get command
[11:51] <gb521> where do i check the entries
[11:51] <iamtheric> deadly_venom, apt-get install
[11:51] <deadly_venom> Gumby but it was working, then reboot my PC .. THEN i got this problem. . anyway to un-do it?
[11:52] <ker0uac> How do I get the latest "kernel modules" for my video card?
[11:52] <crewer> Hello. I got a server with 5.04. I need a mirror so i can install php5. Someone got amirror?
[11:52] <Gumby> deadly_venom: again, I cant be more clear on learning how to use a command before using it
[11:52] <pike_> gb521: at bottom of file there will be several entries starting with title   something
[11:52] <Gumby> deadly_venom: I already said what I suggest doing.
[11:52] <gb521> ok, i got it.  just to be sure, i have 5 ubuntus (i think 2 were created when i did the initial update when running it for the first time)
[11:52] <deadly_venom> Gumby can't i run fsck in rescue mode? (Which i did, and it said clean.)
[11:53] <Gumby> deadly_venom: apt does not cause IO errors on hard drive.  I can guarantee that much.
[11:53] <rh9master> deadly_venom, you have to mount it first
[11:53] <tim57> crewer: do you mean mirror or repository?
[11:53] <pike_> gb521: so if 6 entries total and windows is last it would be default   5
[11:54] <anon32> "free flash player, supports up to flash 4" - um... doesn't that basically mean it has absolutely no flash support?
[11:54] <crewer> tim57: Well.. when i do apt-cache search php5, I can't find anyting..
[11:54] <crewer> nothing about php5 at all
[11:55] <gan|y|med> tim57: what do you mean by "unDRM" them. how should i do this?
[11:55] <anon32> help - the free flash plugin sucks ass and the macromedia one has hideous bugs... is there a third one?
[11:55] <micahcowan> crewer, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:56] <gb521> thanks a lot pike
[11:56] <crewer> micahcowan: 5.04 i think.
[11:56] <THX-1138> !language
[11:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:56] <micahcowan> crewer, ah. Newer packages are generally not backported to older distributions :/
[11:56] <micahcowan> THX-1138, ???
[11:56] <tim57> gan|y|med: there is a tool out there called: FairUse4WM
[11:57] <crewer> micahcowan: Guh. :|
[11:57] <tim57> that will help you, but I guess it is Win32 so you need at least Wine or a working Windows copy
[11:57] <tim57> @crewer: Do a compile yourself
[11:57] <anon32> help - the free flash plugin sucks ass and the macromedia one has hideous bugs... is there a third one?
[11:57] <gan|y|med> tim57: thx
[11:58] <tim57> It's relativly simple and there are tons of tutorials out there
[11:58] <Overand> anon32: WINE with windows firefox and windows flash- i dont' suggest that.
[11:58] <crewer> tim57: I think i install 6.06 instead
[11:58] <anon32> Overand, :-(((((
[11:58] <micahcowan> crewer: if you look for it, you may be able to find unofficial .deb's for your flavor of Ubuntu; or, you might try compiling from the source packages.
[11:58] <tim57> gan|y|med: I hope it works for you
[11:58] <THX-1138> c'mon anon32 - we got ya the first time.
[11:58] <Overand> anon32: macromedia is going to have a new flash plugin for linux out soon, actually.
[11:58] <micahcowan> crewer, but yeah, if upgrading to 6.06 works for you, I'd probably recommend that anyway.
[11:58] <anon32> THX-1138, no you didn't
[11:58] <Overand> so just sit tight.
[11:58] <jesse__> dumb question, but when I upgrade from hoary to breezy, will my 3rd party hoary aps (vlc, Nerolinux, amule etc) survive?)
[11:58] <THX-1138> lool
[11:58] <tim57> crewer: If you have that option
[11:59] <anon32> Overand, define "soon" - it's probably gonna get canceled
[11:59] <Overand> ... cancelled?
[11:59] <crewer> tim57: It's just more work. I have to go to the servercenter to do a reinstall. :-P
[11:59] <Beamoo> hey all
[11:59] <Overand> anon32: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[11:59] <anon32> Overand, yea.... companies have sooooooooo much reason to develop for linux (sarcasm)
[11:59] <anon32> again... probably gonna be canceled
[12:00] <Beamoo> is it possible to run ubunut/xubuntu on a computer with 64 mb ram ?
[12:00] <iamtheric> terminal
[12:00] <iamtheric> but not x
[12:00] <anon32> hmm.... google reveals something called "gnash" - can I get it off of apt?
[12:00] <method|>  i have this usb sound card (maya44usb) and linux recognizes it and I can select it in kmix. How do i make linkux output to this soundcard instead of my internal one?
[12:00] <Overand> anon32: yeah, the fact that there's an active development blog on adobe.com suggesting they're near beta, and that they've shown public demos, and that they've released linux versions in the past REALLY tends to indicate that.
[12:00] <chris12349> I'm having some issues with registered vars in classes, here is the function which works fine out side the class   http://pastebin.ca/200025
[12:01] <ehj20> anon32: apt-cache search?
[12:01] <Overand> anon32: adobe/macromedia may be slow, but they're not stupid.  They know that the current flash for linux is mediocre
[12:01] <thomasmckay> hi guys, i'm having problems getting fglrx to run. I've set it up many times before, so i'm wondering if there is something wrong with the drivers right now.
[12:01] <anon32> Overand, well, sorry if I was just a little suspicious
[12:01] <chris12349> oops wrong channel :)
[12:01] <variant> looks like hans reiser has written his last file systemthen :/ he been arrested on suspicioin of murder now!