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neomkubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso?12:12
fignewyes12:12
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neommk12:12
neomthank you.12:12
fignew:P12:13
livingdaylightcarlos: sun-java5-jdk ? more recent?12:13
Sh4d0xhi there12:13
Perhamwhat should i do?12:13
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method|[17:10]  <Sanne> method|: I remember reading that there are ways to tell alsa which card to use when. I *think* it's controlled by a file ~/asoundrc or similar. That's all I know about it, but it might get you started.12:13
method|thank you12:13
neomI kinda wanna dual boot, but as digg said today, I'm one of the 60% who are scared.12:13
Sannemethod|: and this might get you a bit further: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php12:13
carlosfignew: I did. only 5186 since yesterday is your rep w +18K w/all the extra repositories enabled?12:13
Sannemethod|: you're welcome :)12:13
Perhami also have ubuntu cd12:14
Perhamcan i do something with that or it's the same?12:14
fignewcarlos: nope, I have 18k12:14
fignewcarlos: are there any errors when you apt-get update?12:15
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SeicherlBoBanyone got a clue why my client wont find my AP though the SSIDs are the same?? anyone?12:15
ccc_neom dont be afraid...just install windows first  !12:15
carloslivingdaylight: go to www.sun.com and find the most recent ver. (I only see 1.4 due to my rep limitation right now :( )12:15
Sh4d0xvmware!! :D12:16
neomThe day I put windows on my mac is the day I stop using computers.12:16
SeicherlBoBhehe12:16
Sh4d0xneom: respect!!12:16
carlosfignew: no errors it updates normally12:16
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ccc_ha.... :-))...a thousand appolagys12:17
livingdaylightcarlos: sorry, to hear it :| i think you'll find 1.5 more recent :)12:17
fignewcarlos: do an apt-get search for djbdns-installer12:17
fignewand see if it shows up12:17
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carlosfignew: It returned: E: Invalid operation search  doing a apt-get search djbdns-installer12:18
fignewapt-cache12:18
fignewcache ;)12:19
Perhamplease answer me! i've waited for 1 month for the cd's and it's not working! I'm going to be crazy!12:19
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carlosfignew: it returned: djbdns-installer - Source only package for building djbdns12:19
fignewPerham: did you select the automatic partition option?12:20
Perhamno12:20
fignewmanual right?12:20
Perhamyes12:20
fignewis it running right now?12:20
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neomMy Dr. is Shuttleworth uncle.12:20
josh_hey12:21
Perhamyes but it shows a big unallocated partition12:21
josh_anyone need help?12:21
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fignewcarlos: then you have multiverse12:21
carlosfignew: is this good news?12:21
fignewPerham: is the installer running right now?12:21
Perhamyes12:22
carlosyes I have everything enabled12:22
fignewcarlos: are you getting the number from adept?12:22
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carlosyes12:22
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fignewPerham: open the command prompt12:22
Perhamok12:22
fignewK menu: system; Konsole12:22
fignewand do whoami12:22
fignewrun 'whoami'12:22
fignewneed to know if you're root12:23
Perhami'm not root12:23
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fignewok12:23
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figneware the harddrives Serial ATA?12:23
fignewor just normal?12:23
Perhamyes12:24
fignewSATA?12:24
Perhamsata 2 maxtor12:24
gnomefreakHawkwind: you here?12:24
fignewok12:24
fignewermm run "mount"12:24
fignewand see if you see any sda/sdb...etc12:24
Perham it says only root can do that12:24
fignewsudo mount12:24
Perhammy drives are mounted as removable drives!12:24
fignewhuh?12:25
fignewwhat do you mean?12:25
Perhamnow i'm seeing the computer section12:25
carlosfignew: any suggs?12:25
Perhammy drives are mounted here as removable drives12:25
Perhamlike CD or DVD drives12:25
fignewcarlos: close and reopen adept12:26
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Yeppers12:26
fignewand see if the # changes12:26
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gnomefreakHawkwind: did they ask you in #lfd about the doubleclicking window to min?12:26
Perhamwhen i click them it says no removable drive t mount12:26
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Yep, speaking to him now, thanks12:26
gnomefreakok12:26
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gnomefreakty12:26
HawkwindI've got my head buried in a website12:27
HawkwindHah12:27
gnomefreaklol12:27
gnomefreaki never tried it but im sure its possible :)12:27
fignewperham: drive t?12:27
HawkwindYeah, requires editing the themes .edc file I'm pretty sure12:27
fignewdo you mean drive to?12:27
Perhamyes12:27
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blind675hi12:28
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blind675how can i get kdevelop in kubuntu ???12:28
Perhamthe old versions of linux (any distro) doesnt read my drives.12:28
Perhambut suse does12:28
fignewPerham: run: lshw | grep "logical"12:29
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Perhamand ukubuntu kdetects all my chipset12:29
Perhamand my hard drive.12:29
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Perhami dont know what s happenning12:29
carlosfignew: just got a msg saying my adept-db  is locked.12:29
Perhambecause it seems it knows my hard,12:29
fignewmeh, it'll work, it's just that this new kubuntu installer is buggy12:29
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blind675how can i get kdevelop in kubuntu ???12:30
blind675how can i get kdevelop in kubuntu ???12:30
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LjL!kdevelop12:31
fignewPerham what does lshw | grep "logical" say?12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
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fignew!kdevelop312:31
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB12:32
m3xican!roadmap12:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about roadmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:32
LjLfignew: thanks12:32
fignew:P12:32
LjLblind675: "sudo apt-get install kdevelop3"12:32
blind67510x12:32
fignewcarlos: is apt/adept running12:33
fignew?12:33
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carlosnot db is locked12:33
method|how can i find out where my sound card is mounted under /dev/?12:33
blind675E: Couldn't find package kdevelop3 ?????  now wat12:33
carlosfignew it returned: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:33
LjLblind675: enable universe12:33
LjL!universe > blind67512:34
fignewyes, when adept/apt runs, it locks the database so that no other programs can mess with it and mess things up12:34
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carlosbut is not running right now12:34
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carlosI tried updating from CL after closing it12:34
fignewyou can do sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock12:35
fignewBUT12:35
fignewI wouldn't recommend doing that12:35
fignewtry running ps aux | grep "apt"12:35
fignewor grep "dpkg" or grep "adept"12:35
carlossorry just did :(12:35
fignewno worries12:35
fignewdo run those commands though and see if anything is running12:36
LjL!adept-crash-fix12:36
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'12:36
carlosthanks ubotu. Just did Adept is now working again. However still seeing only 5186 avail. packgs12:39
fignewDOH! i ran fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock and it didn't return anythibg12:39
fignewso I figured it wouldn't help12:39
fignewdon't thank ubotu, thank LjL :P12:39
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carlosWeird thing is that I have all reps enabled12:40
LjLnah, ubotu is the best of all of us12:40
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carlosok thanks all :)12:40
carlosbut I'm still short off 17K packages12:40
LjLcarlos: run a "sudo apt-get update" and see if it's still that few12:40
carlosgot this: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available12:42
LjLwell, that's not an official repository -- you can probably find the keys on the site12:42
LjLanyway, for now just be concerned with the official main, restricted, universe and multiverse reps12:42
livingdaylightAnyone use GoogleEarth? Are you finding it stable or did it break anything, and you now stay clear of it?12:42
fignewlivingdaylight: it works fine, provided 3d works fine12:43
fignewbrbrown712:43
fignewawww12:43
fignewthere goes my system password :(12:44
livingdaylightfignew: ok, thx12:44
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carlosok but my rep is still only 5186 pkgs.12:44
fignew:-O12:44
livingdaylightfignew: gnomefreak just put the fear of God in me about it not being stable and what could happen12:44
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neomwoo12:44
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neomThis is cool.12:44
LjLcarlos: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please, if you haven't already?12:44
fignewlivingdaylight: run glxgears12:45
fignewand see what that returns in the console12:45
livingdaylightfignew: i don't hve 3d enabled yet12:45
carlosLjL: Here is goes:12:46
carlos## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network12:46
carlosdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted12:46
carlosdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted12:46
LjL!pastebin12:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:46
fignewlivingdaylight: ATI or nivida?12:46
carlos ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced12:46
fignewnvidia*12:46
carlos ## after the final release of the distribution.12:46
carlosdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted12:46
carlosdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted12:46
livingdaylightfignew: nvidia12:46
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carlos ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'12:46
carlos ## repository.12:46
carlos ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu12:46
carlos ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to12:46
fignew:thumbsup:12:46
LjLcarlos: please leave the channel and rejoin12:47
carlos ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in12:47
LjLcarlos: you shouldn't flood like this12:47
carlos ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security12:47
carlos ## team.12:47
carlosdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe12:47
carlosdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe12:47
carlosdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted12:47
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carlosdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted12:47
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fignewwheeeeeeeeeeeee12:47
carlosdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe12:47
carlosdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe12:47
carlosdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse12:47
carlosdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse12:47
carlosdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse12:47
carlosdeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main12:47
carlosdeb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free12:48
carlosdeb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free12:48
josh_what are some good 3d linux games12:48
LjLwell, better late than never12:48
josh_such as americas army12:48
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OODtremulous12:48
OODnexuiz, wolfenstein enemy territory12:48
LjLcarlos: when i said "pastebin", i didn't just mistakingly hit the "b", "i" and "n" keys... :)12:49
nukujosh_: quake 4, doom 3, enemy territory12:49
LjL!pastebin12:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:49
Sannejosh_: http://www.linux-gamers.net/12:49
fignewjosh_: Savage , Nexuiz12:49
LjLcarlos: anyway, looking at your flood, it seems to me that you *should* have universe actually enabled... what does     apt-cache search "" | wc -l     tell you?12:49
carlosyes I just saw it when re-entering. I'm pasting it there right now.12:49
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josh_for some reason my video card is clocked lower in linux12:50
josh_like lower than it should12:50
josh_well the core clock is fine, but the memory is like 120mhz lower than it should12:51
carlosLjL: It spit out a list of packages12:51
LjLcarlos: erm, did you type the " | wc -l"   part?12:51
carloso. did not. Brb with the answer.12:52
carlosLjL: it returned 518312:53
LjLcarlos: bah, that's weird... where's the pastebin URL anyway?12:53
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VanessaEevening all.12:54
carlosLjL: It's paste at the webpage: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26515/12:55
Sannehi VanessaE12:55
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LjLcarlos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26517/ <-- make it look like so, and then try "sudo apt-get update" again12:56
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carlosLjL: Still getting only 517601:04
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LjLanyone else cares to look at this sources.list (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26515/), and the way i changed it (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26517/), and why could it be that there's only about 5000 package available after an apt-get update?01:05
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fantasaiHeya, I'm having trouble using kfilereplace01:07
fantasaiI can't figure out how to actually replace the strings01:07
fantasaiIt finds them all and says it replaced them, but the files haven't changed01:07
fantasaiand the button for "replace" is disabled01:07
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calilasseiaHello everyone ... minor glitch that's annoying me on my Dapper install ...01:09
calilasseiaI have the wallpaper manager set to cycle through a series of images every 5 mins ... when it changes the image, it causes Firefox to refresh the page ...01:10
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calilasseiaIs there a reason for this, and how do I stop it happening?01:10
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LjLcarlos: wait, i've made a pasting mess with those "#"... use this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26522/01:12
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super_noobsi have some error report about protocol failure when i setup KEEP daemon to start together with KDE, any solution?01:14
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super_noobsheya!!! i need help here01:15
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super_noobs i have some error report about protocol failure when i setup KEEP daemon to start together with KDE, any solution?01:16
calilasseiasuper_noobs, I think we're temporarily on our own ... must be coffee break time for the gurus :)01:17
super_noobsops01:17
super_noobsooops01:17
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fantasainm, it just doesn't like empty strings01:18
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JimmyGreendogPost the error report please01:20
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riPPerMDhow do i get out of the gui in kubuntu, crtl-alt-f1 doesnt work01:23
OODit should01:23
riPPerMDno go I hit it many times and nothing, is there an alternate way?01:24
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calilasseiariPPerMD: check your keyboard language settings ... I had this problem last night and changing my language settings cured it ....01:24
riPPerMDok will do01:24
OODyou can kill Xorg01:24
OODor you can set it so you boot into the CLI instead of the logon screen01:25
calilasseiaIf you've installed Kubuntu as British English for example, but you accidentally have US keyboard mapping for some reason as I did, then ctrl-alt-Fn doesn't work ....01:25
calilasseiaThis is a particular problem if you upgraded from Breezy to Dapper instead of installing Dapper directly ... the region settings are preserved, but the keyboard language setting goes awry ...01:26
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riPPerMDok i will give some stuff a try thanks!01:26
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calilasseiaMake sure your keyboard mapping matches your regional language setting and that should cure it without having to kill the X server ... if it doesn't, THEN it's time to kil the X server :)01:27
euSuntHi all!01:27
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tonyrhello01:27
OODhi01:27
calilasseiaMeanwhile, can someone sort out a minor glitch for me?01:27
OODdepends what it is :)01:27
euSuntI'm in need of some help:after upgrading kubuntu kmail started to crash when I try to compose a new mail01:27
OODupgrading kubuntu?01:28
nicklashey! has anyone had problems with cylinder sizes of HDD?01:28
calilasseiaI have the Kubuntu wallpaper manager set to cycle through a collection of images once every 5 mins ... when it changes the image, if I have Firefox running, it causes Firefox to refresh the page ....01:28
euSuntanyone has any idea of what I could do to find out what's happening to kmail?01:28
OODeuSunt: did you upgrade to edgy?01:29
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euSuntmmm.. I don't think so.01:30
tonyrWhesre's gvim for Edgy?  When I try to install vim-gtk with apt-get, it says something like 'no package found', and when I try to install gvim, it says 'selecting vim-gnome instead of gvim' !!01:30
OODcalilasseia: don't know what's causing that01:30
tonyrWhere's*01:30
nicklasanyone changed the size of cylinders of his HDD before?! need help, its not working with my hda101:30
euSuntOOD: I just did the usual apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade01:30
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calilasseiaeuSunt: check the repositories you obtained your upgrade from ... look at the file /etc/apt/sources.list ...01:33
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OODtonyr: there is no gvim package for edgy01:34
euSuntcalilasseia: I'm using the portuguese ubuntu mirrors (pt.archive.ubuntu.com)01:34
calilasseiaIf the repositories all contain lines such as "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted" then your distro is Dapper ....01:34
euSuntcalilasseia: I'm going to check the file...01:34
calilasseiaIf they contain "edgy" instead of "Dapper" then you've upgraded to the experimental Edgy distribution ....01:35
euSuntcalilasseia: it's dapper then01:35
tonyrOOD: yeow! any particular reason that you know of?01:35
calilasseiaSo Kmail is crashing in Dapper? Hang on ...01:35
euSuntcalilasseia: all the entries on the sources.list are for dapper, dapper-secutiry and dapper-comercial (from canonical)01:36
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euSuntcalilasseia: yeah. :(01:36
tonyrgvim for edgy: not done yet? Never gonna be done? Gotta install all that gnome support to use it?01:36
OODisn't vim gnome what you're looking for anyway?01:37
calilasseiaeuSunt: there's a list of known Dapper bugs in existence ... go here and see if your KMail bug is among them ...01:37
calilasseiahttps://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+subscribedbugs?start=001:37
euSuntok, going01:37
calilasseiaOnly KMail has some issues in certain circumstances .... ESPECIALLY if you're running it on a SPARC CPU!01:38
tonyrOOD: In Dapper there was a vim-gtk package, but there doesn't seem to be one in edgy01:38
euSuntcalilasseia: a standard, somewhat old, p4 machine01:38
OODtonyr: im running edgy, and the vim-gtk package is right there01:38
calilasseiaHow old?01:39
tonyrOOD: OK thanks, must be repo sources error on my end.01:39
euSuntcalilasseia: can't find any similar probelms in the launchpad bug database01:40
euSuntcalilasseia: I'm not even sure.. some 3 or 4 years01:40
calilasseiaYou searched through all 533 bug reports??? Wow ....01:40
euSuntcalilasseia: heheh... using search the search button ;)01:41
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euSuntcalilasseia: and tried some different keywords, like crash, kmail, new mail, composer,01:41
euSuntcalilasseia: computers are better at searching than I am.01:41
calilasseiaOh there are some odd issues with KMail apparently, but most of them are on a SPARC apparently ... though I found one odd one  in the list involving PGP ...01:42
nicklasanyone changed the size of heads of a partition?01:42
calilasseiaThat one apparently can be reproduced on any setup ...01:42
rodrigobeloanyone use FreeBSD?01:43
OODnah, i use kubuntu :)01:43
Hawkwindrodrigobelo: Have you asked in #FreeBSD by chance :P01:43
euSuntcalilasseia: I fond those too. I think I'll try to reboot the machine and see what goes...01:44
euSuntcalilasseia: so I'll be right back.01:44
rodrigobelook, because I'm trying to install in my Dell D510, I got an error message about memory01:45
rodrigobelohardware support of FreeBSD is not good01:46
bLaZeDanyone else have media in firefox stop working about a week ago?....i updated annd now i cant waitch videos from sites like break.com and a bunch of other sites i always went to01:46
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fooI am locking down ubuntu .. can I set perms to 650 on dirs in / ?01:50
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calilasseia650? Wouldn't that prevent execute/search for yourself?01:52
foocalilasseia: basically, I am adding a new user and don't want him to see my config stuff in '/etc01:53
unix_infidelfoo: i'd guess the user needs some permissions in /etc right?01:54
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unix_infideli mean its just inuitive.01:54
fooI just don't want him to ls /etc01:55
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VanessaEsandbox him01:56
VanessaEthat is, make some kind of chrooted environment01:56
VanessaEit's safer than trying to futz with permissions in /etc01:56
fooVanessaE: gah, I have, didn't work01:57
foohmm01:57
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VanessaEwell, the problem is that there are tons of files in /etc that the user needs access to01:58
VanessaEanything from /etc/profile to default configs for stuff like opera, you get the idea.01:58
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fooyeah,01:59
foohmm01:59
unix_infidelmaybe there's something in bash that can allow you to hide the user shell from performing certain actions?01:59
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calilasseiaIf there are specific files you don't want him to look at, chmod the specific files .... provided they're truly private to you and he doesn't need to access them ....01:59
VanessaEwhat you could probably do is change the permissions on just the config files you're ...01:59
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VanessaEyeah, like calilasseia just said01:59
calilasseiaOnly trouble with that of course, you need to be ABSOLUTLEY sure that the system won't crash if he logs in and is denied access to those files ... as Vanessa said, there's lots of stuff in /etc ne NEEDS access to ...02:00
calilasseiachmod the wrong files and boom ...02:01
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VanessaEone such file might actually be /etc/passwd  ...  doesn't the user need to be able to read that file for certain things?02:03
VanessaEbreak that and...well...things get messy02:03
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calilasseiaBut isn't /etc/passwd one way encrypted? Not the easiest of files to hack by any means ...02:05
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VanessaEright02:06
VanessaEbut some people get paranoid about that file, just because it says "passwd"02:06
VanessaEwasn't sure if inf here was one such :)02:06
VanessaEor rather, foo02:06
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calilasseiaMind you, at one university UNIX installation I saw in the 80s, they had access to the sources so they rewrote the crypt() function to limit the number of calls that could be made in a given time to stop brute force hacking :)02:07
VanessaEwhy exactly are you worried about the user having read access to /etc anyway?02:07
calilasseiaFoo appears to have left ...02:08
VanessaEcalilasseia, I think a variant of that is still in place today02:08
VanessaEoops, so he did02:08
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archangel_sup folks02:09
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calilasseiaThe joys of having a solo installation ... no unwanted ferreting around on your machine by undeisrables ...02:09
VanessaEyep02:09
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archangel_is the centrino moble in the same class as the celeron?02:10
calilasseiaI'd hate to have to administer a proper multi user setup ... got a book about this from the people who ran that university installation I just mentioned ...02:10
calilasseiaArchangel, best place to find that out I would suspect would be Intel's website ...02:10
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calilasseiaActually Vanessa, I've still got that book on my bookshelf - really old one dating from 1982 ... "UNIX - The Book" by Banahan & Rutter ...02:12
archangel_Yeah, but I was in the mood for some hardware chat. I'll look for the appropiate channel02:12
calilasseiaMakes all kinds of comments about scheming undergraduates trying to hack the installation :)02:12
archangel_thanks02:12
OODcentrino is a marketing thing from Intel02:12
calilasseia<--- curls lip and snarls at the mention of the word "marketing" ...02:13
OODo.002:13
archangel_yeah. I know, I was just wondering if it was the mobile verson of the celeron02:13
calilasseiaThink I'll take my leave ... try and sort out this screen refresh glitch another time ...02:14
calilasseiaBed is beckoning ... :)02:14
archangel_celeron sucks soooo bad02:14
OODno, centrino means intel cpu, intel chipset, and intel wireless chipset02:14
OODit's a marketing scheme basically02:14
OODthe older centrino's are pentium M's02:14
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OODwhile the newer one's a Core Duo's and Solo's02:15
calilasseia<--- waves farewell and exits stage left ...02:15
obf213i was listing to amarok and all of a suddne the computer screen went black and all process shutdown, i saw the loading symbol like it was oging to load kdm, but it didnt02:15
obf213and i was just stuck at a black screen02:15
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archangel_core duo= 2x? i.e. dual core?02:15
obf213it was like what happens if you force restart of x, except, kdm never showed up02:16
OODyeah, the core duo's are dual-core02:16
OODobf213: i've had that happen to me before, X isn't perfectly stable02:17
archangel_what would be a smarter buy? a slower duo or a faster cenrino?02:18
VanessaEa slower duo, assuming centrino is single-core02:18
VanessaEyou get slightly better responsiveness out of dual cores.02:18
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archangel_see, thats what I was thinking too02:19
OODcentrino is just a marketting term, hardare vendors can mark their computers as the "Centrino Brand" if the computer has an intel cpu, chipset and wireless02:19
archangel_30% faster, I think02:19
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archangel_ahhh gotcha02:20
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Perhamfignew: Man i installed it! you're not gonna guess what was the problem!02:21
agamingI have a quick question(I hope it's quick) about authentication for an apache server02:21
VanessaEmy AMD64x2 3800+ is clocked at 2 GHz, so with the dual cores it performs at, I would say, the level of what a single core AMD64 might do if you could clock it at maybe 4.5 GHz02:21
obf213ah ok02:21
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VanessaEso just slightly faster but not worth it if the price difference is really big02:21
agamingI have it setup with auth_sys_group mod and it asks for the u/p but just keeps asking if you put in the info. Any ideas why this might be bouncing that back02:22
OOD4.5? that's more than double02:22
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agamingWe have put in the appropriate information into the httpd.conf file to enable the mod but it still doesn't seem to be working02:23
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archangel_So, I guess the 2x has more info passing through at maybe just a little higher mhz?02:24
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archangel_giving the effect of a much higher mhz02:25
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VanessaEOOD: indeed it is - dual cores give you slightly better than double the clock speed of the CPU02:25
VanessaEthe .5 might be a little optimistic, but you get the idea02:25
OODer, dual-core doesn't even double the performance, 90% gains is already pretty optimistic depending on the app02:26
VanessaEI assume it has to do with context switching or memory access, both of which are enhanced with dual cores (and appropriate ram)02:26
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VanessaE90% gains on a single app, maybe, but I'm talking about the system as a whole02:26
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archangel_wow, 2x is the way to go then, for sure02:26
VanessaEtwo programs running at full bore should get just a hint better performance on dual cores than you would get on a single core of twice the MHz02:27
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VanessaElike I said, that extra .5 MHz is probably way too much, it's just a guess02:27
OODthat would be because 2 cpu's parallelize better than 102:27
VanessaEexactly.02:27
VanessaEthat's what I was getting at02:27
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benkong2anyone here?02:45
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bkudriawhen i launch konqueror using alt-f2, i get the following error "/usr/lib/libkhtml.so.4: undefined symbol", and then konq crashes....launching it from konsole is fine.  how do i fix it?02:46
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CainMadnessHaving trouble installing a HP Deskjet 932c printer. Won't work when installed in Windows, and simply refuses to install in Kubuntu. Help?02:51
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_russfocus problem :)02:56
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CainMadnessHaving trouble installing a HP Deskjet 932c printer. Won't work when installed in Windows, and simply refuses to install in Kubuntu. Help? I have it plugged in by USB connection. Detects it, doesn't want to install/work though.02:57
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_russa programming language02:58
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carlosHello03:03
bkudriawhen i launch konqueror using alt-f2, i get the following error "/usr/lib/libkhtml.so.4: undefined symbol", and then konq crashes....launching it from konsole is fine.  how do i fix it?03:03
carlosStill needing help w/adept reps.03:03
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carlosMy adept shows only 5176 avail. pkgs with all repos enabled03:05
carlossomeone, please help03:06
Hawkwind!repos > carlos03:07
Momaldoes anyone use vmware and use the harddrive that sets to dual boot kubuntu(pc running vmware) and another os?03:09
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mr_daemonHey, I just upgraded to KDE 3.5.5 today, now I can't login. It hangs at "configuring devices" (or whatever that is in english) during the splash screen and then dies back to kdm... any idea?03:12
_russi ran  a dual boot win/kubuntu, and could mount the kubuntu under vmware03:13
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:13
magichi i install cedega software but when i go to run steam client cedega crash why??03:14
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magicall install of steam run well but when i run the program crash03:15
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MomalHow can I give a user ability to access /dev/hda* ? I have tried adding the root group to it but doesn't seem to work :S... I require it to beable to get vmware to use physical hd03:16
MomalIf I run vmware under root user it works fine.03:16
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daver2uanyone know how to change the java command to goto the jre java not gij java after I install jre03:19
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ricaneliteHello, All i need some help! I'm a Linux Newbie just started using Ubuntu Linux and I need help installing Java and Flash, Can someone help me out03:21
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ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:21
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:21
CVirusricanelite: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=1684603:21
CVirusoops03:21
CViruswrong link03:21
CVirusricanelite: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats03:22
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linux_galoreCVirus: I find it amazing that people ask those questions, when I swapped to kubuntu I found all the answers thanks to google.com/linux03:23
warpzonelinux_galore: lucky you, I was even more clueless03:23
CVirusnew linux users dont have the FGI sense yet03:23
warpzonelinux_galore: ever seen a newb try to compile from source? took a couple reinstalls to figure that one out03:24
linux_galorewarpzone: lol03:24
ricanelitei type in the sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin and i get this error message E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin03:24
linux_galorewarpzone: I did my first kernel compile undr vmware03:24
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CVirusricanelite: ^03:24
warpzonericanelite: try using the package manager so you dont have to guess. just search for java03:25
CVirusricanelite: please read the links I have you already03:25
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linux_galorericanelite: the first step is you have to add some extra repositories or kubuntu hanst got a clue were the packages are on the web03:25
linux_galorericanelite: then you install flash/java  but with java you have to run a setup command03:26
linux_galoreafter you install the packages03:26
CViruslinux_galore: you could just give him the links03:26
ricanelitewait im confuse, lol03:26
ricaneliteI'm sorry guys!03:26
Hawkwindricanelite: Read the links above.  It tells you step by step what to do03:27
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linux_galorericanelite: ok, kubuntu hasnt got a clue were anything is right now because you haven pointed the package manager to any optional package (repositories) servers03:27
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linux_galorericanelite: you have to add them with adept03:28
Hawkwindlinux_galore: IIRC he did that last night actually03:28
ricaneliteokay i have Adept Manager open03:28
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ricanelitewhat do i have to add?03:28
Momalhow to give a user permission to control /dev/hda* ?03:29
ricaneliteim reading this intructions and it says you have to find the line and the line??03:29
ricanelitewhat suppose to be on the line?03:29
ricaneliteis it "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  and deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu03:30
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mr_daemonHey, is it me or kde 3.5.5 is borked?03:31
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Momal3.5.5 is fine here03:31
warpzonericanelite: hey, howzabout I give you my sources.list to use for now, then you can look and it and understand it better03:31
mr_daemonMine broke during the upgrade, complained about a wrong dependency on kdelibs-data 3.5.503:31
ricanelitei guess!!03:31
mr_daemonSo I just installed that, and then relaunched the upgrade03:32
ricaneliteI'm learning as I go and all these lines and commands are nuts, lol03:32
ricaneliteim sorry!03:32
mr_daemonBut now it's sort of screwy, korganizer won't work anymore and it will not log in the first time03:32
warpzonericanelite: hey no prob I understand, been through the same03:32
ricaneliteokay03:32
Momalricanelite: you have to start somewhere so don't worry about it :)03:32
ricanelitethanks! and I want volunteer and help out the community, i dont see that happening anytime soon03:33
warpzonealrighty, first up, do this "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup"03:33
warpzonericanelite: ^03:33
ricaneliteand its funnie cause my next question was is it possible to get my ipod working on Ubuntu03:33
mr_daemonis there a not so annoying way to go back to 3.4, easily, apart from guessing the packages names from dpkg.log and switching repositories?03:33
mr_daemonerm03:33
ricanelitethis is going into the Terminal???03:33
warpzonericanelite: so you backup your sources in case something happens03:33
mr_daemonI mean 3.5.403:33
warpzonericanelite: oops yeah terminal it is03:33
ricanelitewith the quotes?03:34
HawkwindNo03:34
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warpzonericanelite ack ack no quotes03:34
ricaneliteokay03:34
warpzone:-P03:34
ricanelitesudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup03:35
ricaneliteso i will enter it just like that03:35
Momalyes03:35
ricaneliteok03:35
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warpzonericanelite: something handy to use is tab completion03:35
ricaneliteokay it took me right back to ricanelite@ubuntu:~$03:35
ricaneliteok03:35
warpzoneright, cp is copy, you made a copy of the file in case of emergencies03:36
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ricaneliteokay03:36
ricanelitegot you03:36
warpzonericanelite: next, "ls /etc/apt"03:36
warpzonericaelite: jsut double check, make sure both the list and the bakcup are there03:36
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ricaneliteyes it is label as souces.list.backup03:37
warpzonericanelite: okay, next type "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"03:37
mr_daemonOkay so, technically -- unless someone has a better idea -- what I could is, obtain a list of all the kde packages that were upgraded by doing something like...03:38
warpzonericaelite: that should open sources.list in kate, correct?03:38
ricaneliteokay a window came up label as sources.list-Kate03:38
warpzonecool03:38
mr_daemoncat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep 2006-10-12 | grep unpacked | awk '{ print $5 }' | uniq > packages_kde.txt03:38
ricaneliteyes03:38
warpzonericanelite: now, clear the file and replace it with this03:39
warpzonericanelite: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/20025303:39
mr_daemonSwitching repositories for the older kde, remove the packages with the package list I just generated, and then install the 'new' packages...right?03:39
ricaneliteso i delete everything there03:39
warpzonericanelite: but remove the line numbers, those arent part of the file03:39
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warpzonericanelite: clear the file and replace it with what I have as the sources.list, but remove the line numbers03:40
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ricaneliteokay done03:40
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ricaneliteSave it?03:41
warpzonericanelite: okay, save the file, then back in the terminal, type "sudo apt-get update"03:41
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ricanelitei think it is working03:41
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warpzonericanelite: just make sure there aren't any errors in the output03:42
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ricanelitei got this message at the end  E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.03:42
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warpzonericanelite: hmm lemme do the same, one sec03:43
ricaneliteokay03:43
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warpzonericanelite: hmm I didn't get that, which ones failed to update? it should say under them if you scroll up03:44
ricaneliteblognux.free.fr/debian/03:45
ricanelitedists/unstable/main/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz03:45
ricanelite  404 Not Found03:45
ricanelitea like about 4 or 5 more03:45
ricaneliteasher256-repository.tux family.org/dists/ubuntu/french/binary-powerpc03:45
ricaneliteasher256-repository.tux                  family.org/dists/ubuntu/dupdate/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz  404 Not Found03:46
warpzonericanelite: eh if its all powepc who cares03:46
ricaneliteokay03:46
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ricanelitemost of them are03:46
warpzonericanelite: probably just had a problem connecting, no biggie03:46
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ricaneliteokay03:46
warpzonericanelite: so now you oughta be able to install the packages you wanted03:47
MomalHow to give a user permission to control /dev/hda* (So I can get VMware to use a physical Harddrive)?03:47
warpzonejust open adept and search for what you wanted, or use "sudo apt-get install xxxxx" in the terminal, whatever floats your boat03:47
warpzoneMomal: chown?03:48
Momaltried that... but vmworkstation just says doesnt' have permission to access :S03:48
Momalwhen i run vmworkstation under root access it gets it fine :S03:48
Momaleven tried adding the user to all the groups as well :S03:48
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warpzoneMomal: hmm, I dont know anything about wmware, want to get it though03:49
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warpzoneMomal: sounds like it has something to do with the wmware install, though what I dont know03:49
ricanelitedo i have to download sun-java5-source?03:49
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Momalit said in the help for it to make sure the user has permission to it... so yea...will have to try few more ways if nothing works i'll just run it as root03:50
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warpzonericanelite: nope nope those are just the source packages, no need03:50
warpzonericanelite: why are you downloading java? are you a programmer or do you want it for other applications?03:50
Momalyou can get vmplayer which is free... and the 30day trial of workstation should suit you since after 30days you can run it and create the virtual machine files.. then just run them in the free player :).. and thats legal because the workstation only stops you from running them after 30days and their vmplayer is free :)03:51
ricanelitewell i need Java 5 for a application03:51
warpzoneMomal: holy crap I'm on it, thanks03:51
ricanelitenow where it says Requested under it labels Break (Install) in red03:51
warpzonericanelite: damn I'm in gnome ATM, or I'd know what that meant03:52
ricaneliteso no good?03:52
ricanelitelol03:52
warpzonericanelite: just so you know, if anything you install depends on java, it will install it for you, no need to do it seperately03:52
archangel_any easy ubuntu people in here?03:53
ricanelitewell the application im trying to use for work only runs if Java is installed03:53
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ricaneliteDoes Easyubuntu Software come with a Java Install?03:53
archangel_yes03:53
archangel_and it works03:53
Hawkwindarchangel_: Try #EasyUbuntu ?03:53
HawkwindI'm not sure if there are any here or not.03:54
archangel_yeah I have a habit of not going there03:54
archangel_they are less friendly03:54
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warpzonericanelite: theres always the unofficial ubuntu starter guide03:54
HawkwindWell if you need their help, then that would be the place.  They'll be friendly here just like there03:54
ricanelitewell they will hate me then, because i have no idea what im doing03:54
archangel_but maybe someone with some personality is there now. I must not give up hope I guess03:54
warpzonericanelite: its how I learned to install stuff03:54
archangel_lol03:55
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ricanelitejust trying to please myself so i could miss windows and os x03:55
archangel_know what you mean03:55
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archangel_Windows has REALLY turned me off03:55
ricanelitesecurity has me alittle nutty03:55
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archangel_but it IS easier to use03:55
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ricaneliteyes i will like to try the new windows vista but security is my main concern right now03:55
coreymon77use vmware then03:56
warpzonearchangel_: that changes, I can't use windows for crap now, its seriously redundant, sloppy, and counterintuiive03:56
coreymon77try it out on a vm but use kubuntu mainly03:56
coreymon77as your real os03:56
ricaneliteand being that Apple is becoming more user friendly, i have a feeling sercurity and viruses are going to becoming more known there03:56
ricanelitedont know though03:56
MomalI think the only reason why people fine linux/ubuntu harder then windows is because they aren't used to the freedom of been able to change basically everything and have freedom in everything they want to install03:56
ricaneliteyeah i just finish doing the update for Ubuntu 603:56
archangel_warpzone: I hope so, I love linux, but is really hard to get used to03:57
coreymon77and the freedom to muck everything up absolutely royally too! :P03:57
Momalwindows: choose between software b and d (a & c are auto installed) | linux: choose what you want from a b c or d (please note b requires c to install)03:57
archangel_warpzone: although I have virtually got my whole family using it now03:57
archangel_warpzone: lol03:57
warpzonearchangel: it took me about to months before I wasn't reverting back to windows for importaant stuff03:57
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Frederickfolks wich is the right package for mame?03:57
HawkwindFrederick: apt-cache search mame03:58
warpzonearchangel_: the easiest way to learn, read the ubuntu forums, the ubuntu wiki, the unofficial starter guide, and ask questions here03:58
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coreymon77apt-cache search is your best friend frederik03:58
warpzonearchangel_: if you have patience, it's well worth it03:58
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Momalapt-file is a nifty command as well if your looking for a certain file in packages :)03:59
HawkwindI installed Linux 4+ years ago for the first time, dual booted.  10 days later I did a re-install, wiped Windows and never ran the OS again03:59
coreymon77the faster you learn that frederick, the better03:59
warpzonearchangel_: a hint, though, don't use automatix. I don't know why people go batty over it but I can't stand it.03:59
archangel_I make cd and dvd's for a tv show. but i have to keep going back to window$ to make the lables for them03:59
FrederickHawkwind: there are many hits03:59
HawkwindFrederick: Only 1104:00
archangel_never heard of them04:00
Hawkwindarchangel_: Keep it that way then :P04:00
warpzonearchangel_: check out tovid and tovid-gui, DVDStyler, and mandvd04:00
coreymon77the problem about linux though is that you have the complete power to muck everything up so royally beyond repair that its unbelievable04:00
archangel_do you recommend a lable program or is there any worth it?04:01
archangel_oh I see ya04:01
coreymon77you gotta be very careful not to accidentally type rm-rf in the wrong spot04:01
warpzonecoreymon77: you do in windows too, just try removing a hotfix04:01
archangel_ok I will try them04:01
Hawkwindarchangel_: Or devede.  It's much faster than tovid04:01
Hawkwindarchangel_: http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html04:01
linux_galoresame here installed Linux 8 years ago, wiped windows 6 months later, then went and did my LPIC 101/20104:01
coreymon77somehow, suse "accidentally" deleted my home directory04:02
coreymon77major messup\04:02
coreymon77:P04:02
BonBonTheJonFrederick: did you get mame installed04:02
linux_galore?? Ive never deleted my /home04:02
warpzonecoreymon: thats becaue suse... hmm can't say anything appropriate for here. I HATE suse04:02
Momalgood tip for new people: never run "sudo rm -rf" or "rm -rf" loged in as root no matter where you are lol.04:03
Frederickoh nvermind folks04:03
archangel_I have two hard drives 250 gig each. one with linux the other with windows. I havent put the other one in since I have ran linux04:03
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coreymon77momal: ill say! :P04:03
Momalhehe04:03
archangel_I like it that much, but sometimes its the little things that tick me off04:03
HawkwindMomal: Probably best to not even mention those commands.  That way users don't even ask or attempt them wondering what they do04:03
coreymon77especially when using suse linux04:03
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linux_galorearchangel_: wine/codeweavers to the recue04:04
coreymon77no04:04
linux_galorerescue*04:04
MomalHawkwind: good point :p... in lots of howtos and that they always use it >_<04:04
coreymon77vmware to the rescue (for desperate measures)04:04
HawkwindMomal: That's because you use them with certain things after it.  It's safe to use if you know what you're doing04:05
linux_galorevmware doesnt support 3D though04:05
archangel_dude I have no idea what the line meant04:05
archangel_LOL04:05
archangel_wine? codeweavers?04:05
coreymon77if you install vmware tools on to the vm before your workstation trial runs out it does04:05
warpzonewine runs windows progs in linux, not an emulator though04:05
archangel_ahh04:06
coreymon77exactly04:06
coreymon77Wine Is Not an Emulator04:06
linux_galorearchangel_: wine/codeweavers lets you install and run windows apps in Linux without installing windows, the later (codeweavers) being a easier to use $$$ version of wine04:06
warpzoneif you say its an emulator everybody will break down the acronym for you04:06
coreymon77thats what wine stands for04:06
archangel_its a software platform?04:06
HawkwindMomal: BTW, I just did your approval for my LFD forums :)04:06
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ricaneliteokay look check this out! when I try to install sun-java5-jre I get "The following packages have unresolvable dependencies"04:07
linux_galorearchangel_: no its a implementation of the windows api that can be run in Linux for windows apps04:07
coreymon77plus, codeweavers crossover office allows more programs to work according to my experience04:07
MomalHawkwind: oo lol.. I signed up was like what the hell might come in handy later :D Its in my favs to look to everynow and again :)04:07
MomalDoes anyone here use cedaga and think its pretty good ?04:08
archangel_ok04:08
coreymon77cedega doesnt work04:08
linux_galoreyeah I use codeweavers, got everything I want working even flash 9 in firefox04:08
coreymon77plus it requires a subscription fee04:08
Momalany free alternative that works ?04:08
coreymon77it advertizes that warcraft 3 works perfectly, like native04:08
coreymon77i try it04:09
archangel_does debian take the tar.bz2 files?04:09
coreymon77doesnt work04:09
coreymon77ya04:09
coreymon77wine or vmware04:09
archangel_(at the devede site)04:09
coreymon77vmware is for desperate measures04:09
Momalit wont work in vmware due to really bad 3d support only has basic 2d support04:09
linux_galorearchangel_: grab codeweavers 5.01 of bittorrent if it works go pay them for a years subscription04:09
coreymon77momal, look04:10
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linux_galorearchangel_: that way you get updates04:10
archangel_ok04:10
coreymon77vmware workstation has a little feature called vmware tools04:10
archangel_never understood bit torrent, is it basicly like kazaa?04:10
linux_galorearchangel_: yes04:11
warpzonewhat the? brb cat stole my notepad, ricanelite I wrote you, check it out04:11
archangel_ok04:11
coreymon77this little thing allows you to install something on to your virtual machine (after you are done installing windowze) which greatly increases graphics capability and allows for decent 3d04:11
flaccidBT is a tottally different protocol/model04:11
linux_galorearchangel_: but unlike kazaa its an open standard04:11
archangel_gotcha04:11
coreymon77install that through the workstation before the trial expires04:11
coreymon77and there you have it, 3d support04:11
linux_galorearchangel_: install ktorrent04:11
coreymon77linux: bittorrent is in not at all like kazaa04:12
coreymon77completely different04:12
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linux_galorecoreymon77: I know04:12
coreymon77the way bittorrent works is different from any p2p program, emule, kazaa, limwire etc04:12
linux_galorecoreymon77: dont complicate things for newbies04:12
Momalhow much 3d support ?... | this guy I was talking to the other said he was running F.E.A.R under windows in vmware fine? lieing or truth?04:12
coreymon77momal: truth04:13
archangel_I have it04:13
archangel_running it now04:13
coreymon77wc3 works fine, once you have the vmware tools installed04:13
linux_galorearchangel_: in ktorrent you can search or stuff04:13
linux_galorefor*04:13
Momalamazing... well now i just have to get vmware to read my hd and boot into the windows part of my harddrive04:14
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warpzonearchangel_: actually I would stay awake from ktorrent for now, and use azureus despite its bloat. ktorrent just doesnt have the DHT capabilities torrenting requires04:14
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coreymon77momal, cant do that04:15
warpzonearchangel_: I'm hoping a standard emerges soon04:15
linux_galorecodeweavers 6 supports the windows version of WoW "with sound"04:15
coreymon77you gotta install windoze sepeerately onto the vm04:15
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archangel_so I need to install azureus?04:15
warpzonelinux_galore: you can't get WoW sound in with wine?04:15
linux_galorewarpzone: not right now04:16
coreymon77you can in vmware04:16
coreymon77may be a little slow04:16
coreymon77but it will work04:16
warpzonearchangel_: yeah, you'll have faster downloading rates04:16
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archangel_ok04:16
archangel_where do I get it?04:17
coreymon77vmware?04:17
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warpzonesudo apt-get install azureus :-P04:17
archangel_ahh ok04:17
linux_galorearchangel_:  thinks its  azureus.org04:17
linux_galoreoh yeah its in the repo04:17
linux_galoreaaah but its an older version04:17
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warpzonelinux_galore: yeah but I'm lazy and <3 repos04:18
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archangel_installing04:18
archangel_man this pc is lightning04:18
coreymon77archangel_: no, linux is lightning04:19
linux_galoreto be honest I use azureus04:19
coreymon77install doze on the thing, it will be as slow as anything04:19
archangel_ok installed04:19
archangel_how do I run it now?04:20
archangel_cant find it in my menu04:20
warpzoneits under "internet"04:21
warpzoneor just type "azureus"04:21
linux_galorearchangel_: you will have to go to a torrent search site and look for what you want, then copy the link for the torrent (right click-> copy link) and then swap to azureus, on the top right click on the file, click on the add url button04:22
linux_galorefile icon sorry in azureus04:23
archangel_I cant just go to the file directory and copy the icon?04:23
linux_galorearchangel_: make sure you double check were azureus is saving the file before you click on ok, nothing more annoying that not being able to find what you downloaded04:23
archangel_yeah I know what you mean there04:24
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archangel_sorry maybe I just dont understand what you were saying a minute ago04:24
linux_galorearchangel_: it should be in your menu or create a link on your desktop to it  usually under /usr/bin/azureus04:25
archangel_I just installed codeweaver. how do I run it04:25
archangel_cool04:25
archangel_ok04:25
linux_galorearchangel_: ooh you have the file ??04:25
archangel_I have it and installed it04:26
linux_galorearchangel_: how did you install it04:26
archangel_I just couldnt find the icon in my menu04:26
archangel_sudo something something04:26
flaccidarchangel_: did you pay for it ?04:26
archangel_sudo apt-get install azureus04:26
archangel_that04:26
OODthere's a 60 day beta version04:27
linux_galorearchangel_: ooh that not codeweavers thats the azureus bt client04:27
Hawkwindflaccid: It's available from apt-get04:27
archangel_sorry not codeweaver,04:27
archangel_my bad04:27
archangel_lol04:27
flaccidHawkwind: crossover office is?04:27
linux_galorearchangel_: should be under Internet04:27
archangel_ok04:27
linux_galorearchangel_: in your main menu04:28
Hawkwindflaccid: Ah no.  But I have a deb of it here04:28
flaccidHawkwind: right.04:28
Hawkwind5.0.1-1 to be exact04:28
flaccidi bought it too04:28
HawkwindI was thinking you were asking about azureus04:28
archangel_akregater?04:28
flaccidnah [2006-10-13 13:25]  <archangel_> I just installed codeweaver. how do I run it04:29
Hawkwindflaccid: Heh, I didn't buy it actually04:29
linux_galoreyeah I have 3 licenses for codeweavers for were I work04:29
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archangel_not in menu04:29
linux_galorearchangel_: type azureus in a terminal04:30
coreymon77ya neither this i04:30
coreymon77i confess04:30
coreymon77i used emule04:30
linux_galorearchangel_: or create a link on your desktop04:30
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archangel_wow sweet splash04:31
archangel_hey I get a splash screen and it goes away and thats it04:31
flaccidazureues goes into the internet menun in kmenu04:32
archangel_no program04:32
archangel_not there04:32
archangel_I cant see it running in the backgraound if it is04:33
flaccidis java installed?04:33
archangel_yeah04:33
flaccidrun from a terminal and see errout04:33
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shadowhywinddoes anyone know how to change the text color on the panel?04:34
archangel_ohh I see the prob04:34
archangel_X error04:34
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archangel_bad device04:34
archangel_failed to open device04:34
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flaccid!baddevice > archangel_04:35
flaccidcould just be that ^^04:35
HawkwindHah, I was just posting that URL for baddevice on my forums to a user on the mailing list04:35
flaccidHawkwind: hehe. has wacom been removed from xorg for edgy?04:36
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Hawkwindflaccid: Nope04:37
flaccidwhat can we do to make that happen?04:37
Hawkwindflaccid: Not real sure to be honest.  Maybe put something on an agenda for one of the meetings so it can be discussed04:39
unix_infidelflaccid: a lot of people use wacom, i dont see how its adversely affecting your daily usage.04:39
unix_infidelother than just being an unsightly section in xorg.conf.04:40
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shadowhywindanyone know how to change the color of the font on the panel?04:40
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Hawkwindunix_infidel: He's talking about the error messages that fill your terminal when you run commands04:41
HawkwindEverytime you run an app and your terminal fills with 150+ lines of errors because of wacom, it's an issue04:41
flaccidunix_infidel: can you explain why its added by default?04:41
Healotmoin04:41
HawkwindNo other distro puts wacom stuff in xorg.conf by default04:41
flaccidthe xorg configure program detects hardware and puts in xorg.conf04:41
flaccidit is an optimised file04:41
flaccidthere is no reason to put default devices in it04:42
HawkwindExactly04:42
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flaccidas we know the normal user freaks out with these messages despite being maligment04:42
HawkwindHaving wacom in your xorg.conf when you have no wacom doesn't make sense04:42
flaccidso it looks bad for ubuntu!04:42
unix_infidelflaccid: i cannot explain WHY its there, i'm just saying a lot of media people that use wacom devices, if they generate a xorg.conf file based on the hardware present then that would be totally different.04:42
flaccidunix_infidel: thats the idea. like i said above04:42
unix_infideldefinately an item for inspection in the agenda.04:42
flaccidit is based on hardware present04:43
flaccideg. it detects your vid card04:43
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Hawkwindunix_infidel: Every distro generates the xorg.conf file by file present during the install of the system.  Name one distro that doesn't do it this way ?04:44
unix_infidelHawkwind: some distro's require you to create your own xorg.conf.04:44
flaccidhehe04:45
flaccidsounds like 199204:45
flaccid:)04:45
Hawkwindunix_infidel: Which ones ?04:45
unix_infidelI meant to say that if they put the wacom entry in by default without hardware detection that's a nother issue.04:45
HawkwindI certainly do know of any modern distros that require that04:45
unix_infidelHawkwind: archlinux for one. LFS believe would.04:45
flaccidunix_infidel: that is the issue at hand  ;)04:45
HawkwindLFS isn't a 'distro' so to speak either04:45
Hawkwindarchlinux doesn't require it either anymore04:45
dennisterhi pps04:46
flaccidhey dennister04:46
unix_infidelflaccid: i could stipulate that the settings that are generated via hardware detection arent optimal.  but that's just a stipulaton not a postulation.04:46
dennisterapologies in advance if this is off-topic, does anyone here still run XP, and has anyone been locked out of it due to wpa nonsense?04:47
flaccidwell it is an optimised file due the the hardware detection04:47
flacciddennister: yes04:47
flaccidpm me denn04:47
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Healotdennister: the access to the AP or the Windows account?04:48
dennisteri don't use a pm04:48
dennistermy son's second drive just died, and now wpa won't let me into pc at all04:48
flaccidits off topic04:48
dennisteryes, i'll take it elsewhere if I knew where to go04:49
flaccidif you don't want help in my pm, try ##windows04:49
dennister##windows04:49
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dennisterflaccid: i don't even have a pm account...it's been years04:51
flaccidyou don't need a pm account04:51
rkruegerI tried installing the 'crystal' theme from kdelook.org, it's the most popular some someone here probably has it, but when I try to build from source using ./configure it fails: checking build system type... Invalid configuration `i686-pc-linux-': machine `i686-pc-linux' not recognized04:52
rkruegerany clues?04:52
Hawkwinddennister: PM = Private Message04:53
Hawkwinddennister: Just do: /query flaccid  and then type in that tab that opens up04:53
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Lunar_Raven!ntfs04:56
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:56
flaccidyay i just got banned from windows04:57
flacciderr #windows04:57
Lunar_Raven!fuse04:57
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse04:57
unix_infidelflaccid: congratulations, maybe you should paste the logs for everyone.04:57
flaccidnah its too lame04:58
unix_infidelbut then, that'd be off topic, again :)04:58
dennisterflaccid: i'm not getting anywhere04:58
flaccidi can see that04:58
dennisteri think i'm just too disheartened04:58
flaccidgoogle...04:58
flaccidsorry to be off topic, but i hacked wga without any assistance. i have a win xp box next to me. the xp install is 4 years and is latest updates and wga removed.04:59
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dennisteri never let wga notify onto my son's pc at all -- not after i got my first false positive on this pc...and it's precisely why i'm learning linux05:04
unix_infideldennister: please do /j ##windows05:05
unix_infidelthere you will find the proper assistance.05:05
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dennisterok, this time it worked; first time i tried going elswhere it didn't work properly05:06
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VanessaEdennister: and THAT is precisely why I have stuck with Linux for so long - Windows just can't be trusted.05:07
denisbrHi, I installed the Kubuntu, but, durating the boot, the screen is black, How I resolve this ?05:08
HealotVanessaE: it's not; but I found Windows is fun to play with05:08
Hawkwindunix_infidel: I gave dennister the answer already actually05:08
VanessaEeh...  Windows is only good for games IMHO05:08
Healotnay05:09
VanessaELinux is serves me well on my desktop05:09
Healotfor nearly everything; especially safe-guarding it; yeah its architecture have few holes here and there; that's what makes Windows challenging05:09
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Lunar_Ravenwould anyone know how to setup a "wireless WRT54G" in kubuntu?  my friend cant connect to the net. heh :P05:11
VanessaEeh05:11
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Dr_willistried that network-manager tool yet?05:13
HawkwindLunar_Raven: He'll have to use ndiswrapper since it's a broadcomm chipset card05:13
Dr_willis!network-manager05:13
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager05:13
unix_infidelisnt the wrt54g a router?05:14
HawkwindLunar_Raven: Try this URL:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517405:14
Dr_willisunix_infidel,  i was thinking that also... but wasent sure. :)05:14
AlReece45unix_infidel: it is, i have a couple of them05:14
Hawkwindunix_infidel: Ahh, it is.  Same router I have.  I read it as the card that goes with it05:15
unix_infidelLunar_Raven: try searching the channel list for wrt54g05:15
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unix_infidelyou should get some channels that supprort 3rd party firmware that might be able to help you out with default firmware.05:15
Lunar_Ravenok thanks hawk05:16
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HawkwindLunar_Raven: If you are actually meaning the router, just plug it and go.  I've had mine for 3+ years and every time I install an OS, the router just works05:17
unix_infidelLol, Hawkwind always gets the credit :P05:17
pacmanokay, weird question05:17
HawkwindProbably because I give pertinent information that actually is true and helps the user instead of giving them info about senseless stuff :)05:17
Hawkwindpacman: Ok, weird answer05:17
pacmanwhen I click on my bookmarks tab, I get a tiny circle underneath it, but no list05:18
pacmanI'm using Firefox05:18
Hawkwindpacman: Edgy or Dapper ?05:18
pacmandapper05:18
Hawkwindpacman: How did you install firefox ?05:18
pacmanI don't remember, it's been a while05:19
pacmanI think I did apt-get05:19
Lunar_Ravenhawk, i'm not sure..he says it's a wireless adapter05:19
Hawkwindpacman: dpkg -l mozilla-firefox05:19
pacmanit was working fine 2 minutes ago05:19
HawkwindLunar_Raven: Ask him if it's a router, or if he's talking about a wireless network *card*05:19
linux_galorepacman: did you update ?05:20
linux_galoreto 205:20
pacmanactually, yeah, just did05:20
HawkwindThat's what I've asked him to do dpkg -l mozilla-firefox05:20
linux_galorepacman: major breakage05:20
Hawkwindpacman: You upgraded to 2.0 ??05:20
linux_galorepacman: it flushed the old setup05:20
HawkwindBahhhhhh, stick with the package manager and stop compiling software05:20
pacmanI dunno, I used the Adept update manage05:21
HawkwindNot for 2.0 you didn't05:21
linux_galorepacman: you should have made a copy or renamed /home/user_name/.mozilla05:21
Hawkwind2.0 isn't available in Dapper05:21
pacmanin that case, no I have updated ff05:22
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Hawkwindpacman: dpkg -l mozilla-firefox05:22
Hawkwindpacman: Please tell me what that says05:22
Lunar_Raventhis is what he said:  "I have the wireless network card in the PC, and in the wireless assitant it shows my 'network' yet when i try and connect it won't let me."05:22
linux_galorepacman: or even better saves your bookmarks to a file before "ever" doing a major version update05:22
HawkwindLunar_Raven: Then he needs to read that URL I mentioned05:22
Lunar_Ravenk05:22
Hawkwindintelikey: What part of Houston are you in ?05:23
intelikeywhat in the world is opening tty's 5 6 & 7  on this box  ?05:23
Lunar_Raventhanks05:23
intelikeyHawkwind arkansas05:23
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intelikey:)05:23
pacmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26537/05:23
HawkwindHuh!05:23
intelikeyyep05:23
intelikeyi'm not in texas05:23
Hawkwindpacman: dpkg -l firefox05:23
linux_galoreintelikey: its part of the init setup for virtual terms  ie ctrl alt F1 -> ctl alt F705:24
intelikeylinux_galore i don't think so05:24
Hawkwindpacman: Did that tell you the same thing ?05:24
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pacmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26538/05:24
intelikeycan you explain ?05:24
linux_galoreintelikey: press ctrl alt F105:24
Hawkwindpacman: Ok good, so you're not using 2.0.x05:24
Hawkwindpacman: Do this without firefox running:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old05:25
linux_galoresee how long it is before he figures out X is on ctrl alt F605:25
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Hawkwindpacman: Do that as normal user, with firefox closed05:25
intelikeylinux_galore i'm talking to you in tty1 so i don't think pressing ctrl+alt+f1 will change anything.05:25
Hawkwindpacman: Once you do that command, then start firefox again05:25
Hawkwindlinux_galore: He's not a new user05:25
intelikeylinux_galore i know about consoles  i don't use a gui.05:26
Hawkwindlinux_galore: He knows his stuff05:26
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pacmancannot stat `/root/.mozilla': No such file or directory05:26
Hawkwindpacman: As *normal* user05:26
linux_galoreintelikey: last I looked the seperate tty's is started by a init setup05:26
HawkwindNot as root user05:26
Hawkwindpacman: Not with sudo05:26
pacmanack05:27
intelikeylinux_galore you did mean tty7 in place of 6 didn't you ?05:27
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linux_galoreintelikey: all of them 1-7  you get them even if you dont use X05:27
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pacmannow I lost all my bookmarks05:27
Hawkwindpacman: That's fine, you can get them back05:28
linux_galoreintelikey: the default X session tty can vary from distro to distro05:28
linux_galoreintelikey: seen it run on tty 9 once05:29
Hawkwindpacman: Open up konqueror, and in the address bar put ~/.mozilla-old and then go into the firefox directory, then into the users directory and copy over your bookmarks.html file to your ~/.mozilla05:29
fyrmedicHow do I change the color of the text during the boot process from blue on a blackground to something that Is readable?05:29
intelikeylinux_galore and yes normally one would expect tty's 1-6 to have a getty running on them because of /etc/inittab  (not tty7 btw)  but i only have a line in inittab for tty1  so what is opening the others ?05:29
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pacmanwhoa05:31
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muhammedhi05:31
muhammedhow are you guys?05:31
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pacmanhold up hawk05:32
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Hawkwindpacman:  ??05:32
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intelikeythere is no login prompt or anything but the tty's 5 6 & 7  have at some point been open because i can switch to them.  (they are blank of course)   but nothing between 4 & 21 have i opened.   i normally use tty's 1-4,21-24  because one may switch to them one handedly with left-alt+f[1-4]   and right-alt+f[9-12] 05:32
pacmanwhen i changed from Windows to Kubuntu, I moved my bookmarks file to my buddy's server05:32
pacmanso I would have it when I started kubuntu05:33
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max_anyone run edgy?05:33
pacmanI never moved it back over...how can I get THAT file05:33
Hawkwindpacman: I don't think the Windows bookmarks file will work in Linux05:33
OODim running edgy05:33
OODHawkwind: they do05:33
Hawkwindpacman: You could try it though.  Go get the file and put it into ~/.mozilla/firefox/your-user-directory05:33
intelikeyso anyone know what might have accessed tty6 durring boot-up  ?05:33
max_whats it like05:33
HawkwindOOD: I haven't touched Windows in 5 years, I plan on keeping it that way too :)05:34
Hawkwindmax_: It's nice, talk to the guys in #Ubuntu+1 as that is the main Edgy channel05:34
OOD:P05:34
HawkwindOOD: Edgy on your main box ?05:34
max_whats it like?05:35
OODyeah05:35
OODit was somewhat unstable 2 days ago05:35
HawkwindOOD: Nice.  I'm thinking of making this box(my main box) Edgy this weekend05:35
OODbut everything's fine now, except suspend and hibernate dont work05:35
Hawkwindmax_: Pretty much like Dapper.  Changes to the initscript system05:35
intelikeyhmmm  i guess not !        oh, well i'll go ask where they don't expect you to want the pointy clicky thingy that windows has to be in the corner of the screen.... :)05:35
max_i saw on the wiki that its final release is the 26thg05:36
max_th*05:36
HawkwindOOD: I have no need for those.  I have Edgy running in a vmware and have for over a month05:36
Hawkwindmax_: That is correct.  2 weeks from today05:36
pacmanhow does that go.... scp idlers.us bookmarks.bak pacman/Desktop05:36
pacman?05:36
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OODi dont use them either :), just felt like trying them since kubuntu dapper had no support for those05:36
Hawkwind!scp05:36
ubotuscp is a secure way of copying files across networks using ssh. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client05:36
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Hawkwindpacman: But you want the bookmarks.html file05:37
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pacmanhawk, it's a .bak file05:37
pacmanI think I copy and pasted the contents of the .html into a Oo.o file before I dumped windows05:37
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Hawkwindpacman: Ah ok.  It is the .bak file you want, sorry05:38
HawkwindThe bookmarks.html is a backup file in a way05:39
pacmanso it's scp idlers.us:bookmarks.bak ~/Desktop05:39
max_does anyone know what would cause this problem? my comp would cycle through shutting down and booting up repeadly, very quickly, or on the rare occasion i could boot up it would shut down with-in 30min....after a few times it did start up i got a SBMK Bad!"05:40
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pacmanhawk: yes that was right, but in Konquerer, it won't let me delete what's in there now05:42
pacmannor will it let me paste05:42
intelikeymax_ only thing i can think of off hand would be a faulty init script kicking it out of runlevel    or rather to runlevel 6       it would be a box i'd like to get my hands on and see what is doing that for you.05:43
lugechck file permissions?05:44
intelikeymax_ can you boot a live cd on that box to work on it from ?05:44
linux_galoreintelikey: could be an idiot thing in a program starting the tty05:44
max_i dont know, dont have one to try05:45
intelikeylinux_galore i don't know what program  my startup is pretty bare  and it happens durring boot05:45
lugebad memory or power supply05:46
linux_galoreintelikey: should show whats kicking it of in the logs05:46
intelikeyon max_'s box yes.05:46
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intelikeydmesg log should05:46
awilcoxIs there anything like smv?05:46
linux_galoreintelikey: logs under /var05:47
awilcoxI want to use scp but I want it to move05:47
lugepacman check file permissions?05:47
intelikeyno under /var/log/05:47
Hawkwindpacman: No reason why it shouldn't allow you to.  As long as you are doing it as user in the users ~/.mozilla directory05:47
linux_galoreintelikey: yes05:47
Hawkwindpacman: You aren't mistaking ~/ as the root directory I hope.   ~/ stands for the users home directory, such as /home/pacman/.mozilla05:47
awilcoxI mean, is that even possible?05:48
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max_thanks for the help guys05:49
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intelikeylinux_galore it'd be like looking for a hey stack with a needle under it.05:49
intelikeybut i doubt it will be anything in the logs.05:50
awilcoxintelikey, that's "like looking for a needle in a haystack".  :)05:50
intelikeyi can rm them all and restart that would narrow the search.05:50
intelikeyawilcox not in this case.05:50
awilcoxintelikey, though I do like your version better :)05:50
intelikeyin you phrase you know the hey stack to start with....05:51
awilcoxintelikey, what's the problem?05:51
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intelikeyawilcox not really a problem per'se  it's more of an agravation.   something durring the startup process is accessing tty's 5 6 & 7   i don't normally ever open them.  but the system is some how accessing them.    (not default, no login prompt.)05:53
linux_galoreintelikey: bugger me its the kernel doing it05:53
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intelikeywhy would the kernel do that?   it doesn't when you boot to single.05:54
linux_galoreintelikey: drivers05:54
linux_galoredbus etc05:54
intelikeycould be.... alsa-utils or something.    i don't use dbus.05:54
intelikeynor udev05:54
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intelikeyit doesn't seem very likely that an init script it's self will be opening them  but may be calling something that is.05:55
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linux_galoreintelikey: CONFIG_SERIAL in the kernel will start tty6 tty705:56
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linux_galorehttp://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0409.1/0862.html05:56
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linux_galoreintelikey: have you looked in /etc/securetty05:58
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intelikeylinux_galore that file only limites the root login access05:59
intelikeylimits05:59
intelikeyinteresting page.  but it's over two years old....06:01
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intelikeyassumes dbus and devfs or udev  which i don't run.06:01
intelikeyi will test with a different kernel though.   back in how ever long it takes to reboot06:02
linux_galorehmm06:02
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intelikeythat wouldn't take so long if it wasn't dialup....06:05
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intelikeyhmmm changing kernels didn't change it.  same with a home grown 2.4 as it is with a factory 2.6    i don't think it's kernelrelated though.   cause booting with init=/bin/sh  would have the same thing if it was kernel.   it doesn't.  neither does booting to single.06:07
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dennisterwell i'm not able to fix this problem tonight people...too sick at heart06:14
mister_robotoany suggestions on the best cd ripping software on kde?06:14
dennister<------can't even find a lousy floppy that will work06:14
Momalhow to get winxp to read samba shares?... for some reason It just says permission denied... It used to work but for some reason doesn't now :S. I have set it to share level, put it in the hosts allow,set it to be allowed to be viewed before login :S06:14
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dennistercya tomorrow or saturday06:15
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flaccid!samba > Momal06:19
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nidalhi all , my squid is exceeding the space mentioned in cache_dir partition and eating up entire disk space06:20
nidalany idea ?06:20
nidalcache_dir ufs /var/spool/squid 12000 16 25606:20
nidalits exceeding the 12 GB I have mentioned here06:20
flaccid~12GB06:21
flaccidtry #squid06:21
Momalflaccid: I want it the other way... that works fine im trying to access the samba shares under windows but it keeps saying denied on windows06:22
intelikeyi think i found it.06:22
intelikeyit is an init script.   hah leave it to ubuntu to throw a hack like that in.06:22
nidalflaccid, could you explain it further please ?06:23
nidalwhat should I try ?06:23
intelikeyconsole-screen.sh  <--- offending script.06:23
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flaccidnidal: try the channel #squid06:25
flaccidMomal: try ##windows06:25
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mandohello06:26
mandoi have a big problem with kubuntu06:26
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mandowhen its loading06:26
intelikeyback again.06:26
mandoi get a whole bunch of buffer I/O errors on hda206:26
mandoor hda i think06:26
mandohow do i fix that?06:26
mandokubuntu eventually loads.. but these errors take forever06:27
flaccidi'm not sure mando, but it could be a damaged hard disk06:27
intelikeymando how big is your boot partition ?06:27
flaccidhave you got a linux live cd of some sort available?06:27
mando3 gb06:28
mandoi think my hard disk is ok.. when i run disk checks from windows i get no errors06:28
mandoyes i do06:28
intelikeymando when do you see these errors ?06:28
mandoi have the live cd06:28
flaccidwindows cannot scan an ext2/3 filesystem06:28
mandoi get these errors after kubuntu checks the fat systems06:29
flaccidmando: boot off live cd, do not mount /dev/hda (/) and do a fsck on the disk06:29
flaccidthat could be coincidence06:29
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flaccidbasically you need live cd because its bad to scan a mounted hard disk06:29
mandoi'm a linux newbie06:29
mandohow do i not mount /dev/hda06:30
nidalthanx flaccid, but I had already tried and seems to be no one there to answer , still waiting06:30
mandoand how do i run fsck06:30
intelikeyok so it's generated from checkfs.sh06:30
redirtShi06:30
intelikeyor possably mountall.sh06:31
redirtSis it easy to get nvidia 3d going in kubuntu?06:31
mandohow do i not mount /dev/hda06:31
intelikeymando not any bad code in your /etc/fstab is there ?06:31
flaccidmando: and you probably want to run it with -cV options06:31
mandohow can i check? i'm such a newbie06:31
mandoi've just installed kubuntu and this is my first linux distro to try06:32
intelikeycould you pastebin  the output of  cat /etc/fstab && mount06:32
mando?06:32
intelikey!paste06:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:32
mandoi dont understand sorry06:33
mandogive me instructions06:33
mandostep by step06:33
mandoplease06:33
flaccidmando: boot off live cd, open konsole and run fsck -cV /dev/hda06:33
linux_galore!nvidia06:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:33
Momalfinally fixed... yay to samba examples... it wasn't a windows issue was to do with kubuntu's samba setup06:33
intelikeyopen konsole  and type in       cat /etc/fstab && mount06:33
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flaccidMomal: how so06:33
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linux_galoreredirtS: link for you ^06:34
mandook thanks flaccid06:34
Momalsamba wasn't configured properly to allow windows06:34
redirtSmando: just copy and paste it into condole06:34
flaccidMomal: how so06:34
intelikeyhighlight it with the mouse and paste it to this web page http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  then show us the url it gives you.06:34
mandolike right now?06:34
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Momalworkgroup setting06:34
mandoisnt it a bad idea to scan a mounted drive?06:34
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flaccidredirtS: you don't wanna scan a mounted hard disk06:34
Momalit was set on workgroup under samaba and mshome on windows... they require to be the same06:34
redirtSlinux_galore: thanks06:35
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flaccidMomal: lol you can blame windows for that :)06:35
Momalyes and I have no problem with blaming windows either. :p... if only there was better game support on linux :(06:35
intelikeymando nothing in what i asked you to do that will scan anything.06:35
Momalwell for the bigger games06:35
mandoyeah my msg was meant to redirtS06:36
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mandook i'll go an try that06:36
mandothank you guys06:36
flaccidmando: you probably want to run  fsck -cV /dev/hda106:36
mandoi believe my linux partitions are hda5 and hda606:37
intelikeypartiton one flaccid ?06:37
flaccidok cool scan both of them06:37
intelikeyhe has windows also.06:37
redirtSthe link for nvidia is for gnome, not kde06:37
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mandook thanks all06:37
mandowill try that and brb06:37
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flaccidmand it scans for bad blocks so can take a while06:37
intelikey<mando> i believe my linux partitions are hda5 and hda6  <--- normally 5 will be the extended and 6 the logical.   so scanning 5 will probably error out.06:38
AB3Ievening all. I'm running thunderbird on Kubuntu 6.06. Thunderbird cant minimize to the system tray by default, so I need a docking program. Anyone know of one I can find on the repositories? Someone suggested kdocker, but I cant find it anywhere06:38
flaccidi think its called kxdocker?06:39
AB3Iah, I see that one06:39
AB3Ilemme try it06:39
intelikeyor should i say 6+ will be logical06:39
flaccidAB3I: this one is the mac look a like if you are ok with that06:40
AB3Ieh, I'll try it out and see06:40
AB3II saw one or two others on the list that might work06:40
flaccidAB3I: you don't have the normal kicker dock?06:40
flaccidAB3I: you could open apt:/search?dock in konqueror to see package results06:40
AB3Ioh. Ew thats not what I'm lookin for06:40
AB3II just want a program that will allow me to minimize thunderbird to the system tray the way amarok does it06:41
flaccidwhat are you looking for?06:41
flaccidAB3I: whats wrong with the normal kpanel?06:41
AB3Iyou have to have thunderbird open in the taskbar06:41
flaccidAB3I: oh thats dependant on the program06:41
AB3Iit cant minimize to the panel on its own06:41
AB3II know, but there is apparently a utility that can do it06:42
flaccidmaybe ask in #firefox?06:42
AB3Ikind of the long way around, but would beat having the damn thing open all the time06:42
AB3Ihmm thanks I'll give it a rip06:42
flaccidi gtg06:42
Momalif you have a symlink from say a folder that is root accessable only and give the symlink access permissions from anyone will anyone beable to access where the symlink points to ?06:43
AB3Ithanks for the advice flaccid06:43
intelikeyMomal symlinks are 77706:43
intelikeythat's wrxwrxwrx  for the non-geek types06:44
Healotthat's geekier06:44
Momalyea but what it links to will that be accessable by anyone?06:44
Momalprovided they use the symlink06:44
intelikeyno06:44
Momalk thanks06:44
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intelikeythat's what i was saying.   all symlinks are 777   it doesn't affect the actualy inode's perms06:45
Momalhmm how do I get samba to access a mounted hdd ?06:46
intelikeybasicly a symlink just says "hey go look over there"06:46
MomalI added it to the config but seem it doesn't want to allow access to guests06:46
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intelikeywould the guest have access locally ?06:47
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mandohey guys06:47
Momalthats what im thinking ^_-06:47
mandook i'm now logged on from the live cd06:47
mandowhen i try to fsck06:47
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mandoit says i must be root06:47
intelikeysudo06:48
intelikey!sudo06:48
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:48
mandook thanks man :D working now06:48
mandodoes fsck fix bad blocks?06:48
intelikeyuse 'root jr.' dude  ;/06:48
intelikeybad block no.06:49
intelikeybadblocks is for ah bad blocks06:49
mandolets hope the check goes fine then lol06:49
mandoi hope i can have a fully running linux system soon06:50
mandolinux kicks windows ass06:50
mandothats my first impression lol06:50
intelikeythat it does06:51
intelikeykicks off buts and takes down names....06:51
mandoyeah but needs lots of workaround06:51
mandowindows is as simple as sex06:51
intelikeydepends on the setup.06:52
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intelikeyand the partner for that matter06:52
mandowell i had very big problems installing linux on my acer aspire laptop06:52
mandothe screen gets turned off when the live cd started06:52
mandoi had to edit the xorg.conf file06:53
intelikeyyeah that would be one of the more complicated installs i guess.06:53
mandoand i didnt know what the heck is that and how to edit it06:53
mandolots of googling before i know how to add the monitorlayout line to it06:53
mandoand now that it has worked.. i get a whole bunch of i/o errors06:53
intelikeybut a year or two on linux and that will be as you say "as simple as sex"06:54
Momalwindows to linuxshares is sooooo slow >_<06:54
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Momalprobly windows been stupid >_<06:54
mandoi hope so06:54
mandoi'm lovin linux already06:54
Momalanyonw know a way to speed up O_o.... its still waiting to start copying a 6mb file >_<06:55
mandobtw kubuntu is able to find my wireless network but i cant get it to connect06:55
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intelikeyword !    lot's of people come to linux with the mind set that, "i know windows so i should know linux"    nothing could be farther from the truth. you kinda have to unlearn windows to learn linux.06:56
intelikey!wifi06:56
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:56
mandothank you!06:56
AB3Ihmm06:56
Momalbrowser window freezes why am i not suprised >_<... DAMN you windows.06:56
Momalyou have to change your minds dictionary to say windows = evil never think or use it again. to beable to use linux :p06:57
mandois there a photoshop substitute on linux?06:57
bmogimp06:57
mandois it as good?06:57
bmoit depends on how addicted to ps you are06:57
AB3Ican anyone explain what Qt is? apparently I need it to install kdocker06:57
mandoi'm a web designer and i cant compromise the quality06:57
mandoi've been working on it for 4 years now06:58
mando:S06:58
MomalI believe there is some guide to get photoshop to work under *ubuntu using wine06:58
intelikeyMomal lol    i would not go that far.    but i think that the windows =   kinda comes without trying.06:58
bmothen all you have to do is try it.  there is an extension called gimpshop to photoshopify it06:58
AB3Igimp is absolutely as capable as photoshop. Its just got a bit of a learning curve06:58
AB3Iand yes wine plays well with photoshop. A bit slow though06:58
MomalI would go that far :p.... so far I have been waiting for windows to copy 6mb over a 1gbps connection for 13minutes now >_<06:58
mandophotoshopising gimp would do it for me lol06:59
AB3IMomal, chances are it isn't going to work then...06:59
intelikeyMomal can you ssh in ?    scp would beet that all to peaces.06:59
mandoi loved how kubuntu has power management support for laptops07:00
bmoif you do web graphics, gimp is great at handling rgb pictures07:00
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mandoyeah web graphics07:00
bmowhich means it's also great at astronomy pics07:00
Momalyea the boxes talk fine pinging... but i need to mount an iso from my linux box onto my windows box.. so I need the shares working lol07:00
Momalfinally windows says 5minutes remaining.. acually started to copy >_<07:01
intelikeyhehhe07:01
MomalI think something is making it slow... I don't think windows is even this slow >_<... or is it ? lol07:01
bmosince a lot of amateur astronomers use rgb color wheels to take "color" photos07:01
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bmotoo bad Windows doesn't support fish:// momal07:02
intelikeyi never figured out why rgb needed g ???07:02
Momallol07:02
mandoChecking for bad blocks (read-only test): done                        17007:02
mandowhat does that mean?07:03
Momaltobad windows doesn't support bash lol!07:03
bmoit does, there is a port of bash for windows07:03
intelikeyblock 170 shows to be bad.07:03
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Momalreal bash lol!... none of this port crap lol07:03
mandohmm07:03
mandois there anything i can do?07:03
bmoyou have 170 bad blocks?07:04
mandothats the result07:04
bmoeep07:04
intelikeyrun it again.  it should have fixed that.     err actually marked the block.07:04
mandook running it again07:04
bmohe ran it as read-only, intelikey07:04
bmohe should run it as rw07:05
intelikeybmo that's the testing mode.   so it doesn't destory all data07:05
bmowhich fsck is he running?07:05
intelikeyrun in read only.  unless you are going to format the disk07:05
intelikeybadblocks07:05
bmooh07:06
mandothere's something that has to be said though07:06
mandokonquerer sucks monkey ass07:06
bmotar -cf /mount/goodbackupdrive.tar /dev/badrive07:06
intelikeywhy does that have to be said ?07:07
intelikey!language07:07
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:07
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mandolol sorry for that07:07
mandobut i believe its very incompetent07:07
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intelikeythen you haven't learned to use it yet.07:08
mandomozilla works on kubuntu right?07:08
intelikey@ mando  ^07:08
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intelikeyit does07:08
bmomozilla works on everything07:08
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bmomozilla works in twm07:08
mandowell mozilla is a real browser07:08
AB3Ignome works fine for me. I just despise the complete lack of customization07:08
Empirichi all07:08
intelikeymozilla works in console07:08
bmomando: once you learn the magic of ioslaves, you will never go back to gnome07:08
Empiricmy hard disk partition table is currupt07:08
AB3Iice and kde are my favorites07:08
intelikeyAB3I here here07:08
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Empiriccan any on guide me how i recover my data07:09
mandois mozilla gnome?07:09
Empiricits very imp07:09
bmomozilla is mozilla07:09
AB3Imozilla is independant of the gui07:09
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mandolol pardon me..07:09
intelikeyEmpiric testdisk07:09
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AB3Ihence it operates in the console if you're sadistic enoguh07:09
AB3I*masochistic enough07:09
intelikeyeasy !07:09
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Empiricits a tool07:10
Empiricb/c i wont be able to mount it07:10
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intelikeylets don't "bash" the console guys07:10
Empiriconly boot partition is mountable07:10
mandowhats amazing is.. how windows suck.. i cant really find a reason for that07:10
intelikeypun intended07:10
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intelikeyEmpiric live cd  and install testdisk and run it.07:11
bmoempiric, mount a knoppix live CD...it's got good rescue tools07:11
AB3Imando, its intentional07:11
keInstability, insecurity, mando.. But I can't pull myself together to fully switch to linux, so I don't bitch about it07:11
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intelikeymando i can   EULA07:11
AB3Iif windows was built the way they know they should have built it, what would be the point in upgrades?07:11
mandoyeah you've got a point07:11
keTo follow people's requests07:12
mandolike the whole y2k thing07:12
keTimes change07:12
AB3II made the switch to a microcrap free home a few months ago07:12
AB3II'll never go back07:12
rredd4when I install samba smbfs plugin, dapper kubuntu, I get these errors.    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26558/07:12
mandoopen source is an amazing concept07:12
Empiricwhere i download knopix07:12
Empirici try from kubuntu07:12
Momalcomputer life started when I was 2-3 (can't remember) dos/win3.1 - 4 years win98 - 4 years winxp - 1year linux - 5th year now :)07:12
intelikeythis is not a M$ reboot OS   but this is not a bash other OS's channel either.07:12
bmowww.knoppix.org07:13
mandosorry for that intelikey07:13
bmoclick the english/american flag for english07:13
Empiricintelekey its a rpm file07:13
Empiricnot an iso to burn on cd07:13
intelikeyMomal so your about 16 now.07:13
Momal1707:13
Momal:)07:13
mandodamn.. i'm 18 and i'm still a newbie07:13
bmoand if you need english, make sure you download the english iso. heh.07:14
intelikeyi've got kids older than yall.....07:14
bmoyou do?07:14
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mandowell i may be young but i'm in college lol07:14
mando2nd year.. engineering07:14
AB3I21 here07:14
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Momallol... I have used linux for 4+ years gone through countless distro's and still know only little bits lol!... I would say I know enough to do what needs to be done :)07:15
AB3II use unix for a living07:15
intelikeywet behind the ears pups07:15
AB3Iso I'd better be good enough to hold my own on a desktop07:15
intelikeyya whipper snappers.07:15
keintelikey, my highest congrat's to you07:15
ke...07:15
keAnyways07:15
ke<-- gone07:15
mandoChecking for bad blocks (read-only test): done                        17007:15
mandonow its checking inodes, blocks, and sizes07:16
intelikeymando hmmmmm   let me look a minute.07:16
AB3Iintelikey, any experience on OpenVMS?07:16
mandoi've accidentally skipped this stage during the first check07:16
MomalGRRRRRRR if only I could take my rage out on this channell.... how long has it been since I last mentioned about the files copying? says 3min remaining >_<07:16
Momalanyone ever had windows accessing samba shares really slow ?07:16
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mandochecking for a third and final time07:16
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mandocuz the first time i tried copying windows style (ctrl+c) and that cancelled the test after the first check07:17
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AB3Iyeah it will do that07:17
AB3Idont do ctrl-z either07:17
intelikeyAB3I ah no.07:18
AB3II work with solaris, a bastardized OpenVMS, and a flavor of BSD at work07:18
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unix_infidelAB3I: at work or by choice :P07:18
AB3Iat work07:19
AB3II fly on a USAF surveilance/C2 platform. We've got a sun server, a server using a sort of bsdish system, and 20 systems running OpenVMS (sorta)07:19
AB3II'm the computer and radar technician. What sucks is with the exception of the sun server, everything is different enough from linux that it hasn't done me a whole lot of good07:20
unix_infidelheh, you sure you can say that here :P07:20
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AB3Iyeah. I just cant show you the imagery we do, or tell you the power output and range of the aircraft. Then I'd have to sick the guys in the black helicopters on you :P07:21
intelikeymando that should not be showing the same block number over....    something is not right there.      try this  sudo e2fsck -fc <your/device>07:21
unix_infidelAB3I: they've been here before....unfortunately :p07:21
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AB3Ihaha07:22
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mandook doing a fsck check once again cuz i accidentally canceled the scan after the bad blocks check07:22
mandohalf way though now07:22
AB3Iwe even have an old VAX computer on that jet07:23
AB3Ithough we dont have any means of interfacing directly to it07:23
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unix_infidelAB3I: yea, was considering going into the marines after i graduate.07:24
Momalwoo just great windows can't even see my kubuntu box anymore07:25
unix_infidelthey have some nice hardware at dermo sometimes, i'd like to play with thta :007:25
AB3Imeh. I'm not going to badmouth another branch of the military07:25
unix_infidel:P07:25
AB3Ibut suffice to say if you're looking for technical jobs, go navy or air force07:25
AB3Iin the marines you are first and foremost a rifleman07:25
unix_infidelalready a head of ya :007:26
AB3Iif you aren't a combat experienced gunner yet, you will be very shortly07:26
unix_infidel:)07:26
intelikeymando how much trubble would it be for you to wipe that hdd and start from clean?   cause if you do have bad blocks  a write test of badblocks would be advisable.     (i actually throw hd's away if they get bad blocks on them.)07:26
AB3Ihell, one of the technicians that works on some Cobras here on base has more time on a convoy than he does workin on his airframe07:26
mandoi have lots of important files on the hd :S07:27
mandois there a way to go around it?07:27
mandoi can wipe the partition07:27
mandobut not the whole drive07:27
mandoand how come before i've converted the partition to ext3 windows never found any problems with it?07:27
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AB3Inight all07:28
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intelikeynot really.   you are talking about possable dammage that could be in the partition table or the first block of a partition.....  better if you can  to test the whole disk.07:28
intelikeymando and windows never scans the actual disk unless you tell it to.07:29
mandohmm true07:29
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intelikeyor what i remember of M$ anyway.07:29
mandoand bad blocks cannot be fixed?07:29
intelikeyit's looking for phisically defective areas  so no.07:30
mandoand what can cause that? maybe excessive heat?07:30
intelikeymaybe.07:30
mandolaptops suck man07:30
mandoyeah 3rd check and same number of bad blocks07:31
mandoshould i try that: sudo e2fsck -fc <your/device>07:31
intelikeyyeah07:31
intelikeyinturpret <your/device>07:31
intelikeysudo e2fsck -fc /dev/hda6      maybe07:32
mandoyeah ofcourse07:32
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mandohda507:32
intelikeyk07:32
ubuntuhallo all07:32
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Momalthe joys on windows freezing on my network places.... why couln't they make it more like linux >_<07:33
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intelikeydid i say that wrong a while ago....   i think i did.   it #4 that is the extended partition.  and #5+ that are the logical drives on the extended....     my bad.07:33
toelwhere i can download software kubuntu07:33
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intelikey!repos07:34
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:34
intelikeytoel ^07:34
toelthank...07:35
intelikeyi don't keep up with partitions  cause i don't use them.07:35
Momalwindows accessing samba under kubuntu... the samba share links to a harddrive I have mounted... that should work fine right?07:35
intelikeyidk07:37
Momalpfft lol07:37
intelikey:)07:37
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intelikeyyes it should,    but that is only a logical response, not experimental07:38
MomalI think I might just ring up microsoft support and ask them how to use linux im that pissed off with windows at the moment >_<.. tell them Microsoft Linux is installed and I want to know how to use it lol!!07:38
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intelikeyfull path.  not reletive path  ^07:38
intelikeythey hear things like that.    people from bangladesh and india  that answer the phones for M$07:40
intelikeythey are used to it.07:40
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Momalwell thats good they can help me then :D07:40
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zer0hourwhat help do you need?07:41
zer0hoursamba?07:41
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Momalyea my problem is that when windows accesses my samba share(which is to /media/hdd1/ - permissions are set right) Its really slow long long response times >_< really slow to copy07:42
MomalOn a 1gbps connection It can't even copy 6mb in 5 minutes07:43
Momalstill says 3minutes remaining from at least 30min ago07:43
intelikey-:- zer0hour [n=zer0hour@S0106000f3d3b0cb5.vn.shawcable.net]  has left #kubuntu   <--- hmm07:43
intelikeywaited too long i guess.07:43
Momallol... well im blind >_<07:44
Momalthats what happens when you start using windows you miss the details >_<07:44
intelikeyi hate it when people do that.    offer to help then leave....07:44
intelikeyso let me see if i can help you....07:45
mandohey intelikey.. same result for e2fsck 170 bad blocks07:45
Momalgarr I wish something would just work in windows for once... suprising everything in linux once you have configured the stuff and got what it requires it acually works07:45
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intelikeymando you should consider maybe backing up all important data.       if the drive has one bad block it probably has others....07:46
mandothis is something else i got /dev/hda5: 76116/1628800 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 503145/3257170 blocks07:46
toelubuntu very good in my server campus in indonesia07:47
intelikeyMomal that the report from the test.  that's normal.07:47
mandohmm ok07:47
mandook and after i backup? replace hard-drive?07:47
Momalintelikey: what was that report about ?07:48
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intelikeyat least do a  "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda && badblocks -w /dev/hda "   on it mando07:48
mandoand what does that do?07:49
intelikeyMomal it's the statistics on the file system.    "e2fsck"    the number of used/unused inodes and the percentage of non-contiguous used inodes.07:50
Momaloh.. what does that have to do with me ? lol07:50
intelikeymando it will write goose eggs to the entire drive.  and then start the badblocks test in write mode.07:51
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intelikeyMomal nothing at all.  just bad tab completion in the irc client.07:51
Momalarr lol07:51
mandowhat does "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda && badblocks -w /dev/hda " do?07:51
intelikeyi hit mo{tab}  in place of ma{tab} by accadent07:52
intelikeymando it will write goose eggs to the entire drive.  and then start the badblocks test in write mode.07:52
intelikeygoose eggs == 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000007:52
intelikeyzero07:52
mandowow!07:52
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mandothats basically overwriting everything?07:53
Jucatois that the goose that lay the binary eggs?07:53
intelikeynot basicly but entirely.  mbr and all07:53
mandodamn07:53
mandook thanks for your help07:53
mandomuch appreciated07:53
intelikeymando anytime.07:53
mandoi'll go get some sleep now07:53
intelikeyJucato probably.07:53
mandoits 8 am in the morning07:54
intelikey8 am is usually in the morning....07:54
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intelikeyexcept when it's not i guess....07:54
intelikey:)07:54
mandolol sorry.. thats wat staying up for 24 hours straight does to you07:54
mandoand the country is egypt for those who're wondering07:54
intelikeybeen there.07:55
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mandoyeah one last question07:55
intelikey^ the staying up    not egypt.07:55
Jucatooooh Egypt...07:55
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mandois there a way to bypass the check that brings up the buffer i/o errors when loading ubuntu?07:55
mandoanyone?07:57
intelikeymando hmmmmm not a good idea.  but yes there is.   remove the symlink     "/etc/rcS.d/S30checkfs.sh"   but i don't recommend it.07:57
intelikeyor possably even  "  /etc/rcS.d/S20checkroot.sh  "    which is even worse.07:58
mandolol07:58
mandobetter not do it07:58
Momalyou could always just edit the script and make it not show the output :)07:58
mandoanyway thanks07:58
mandobye07:58
intelikeybetter not.07:58
intelikeygooday07:58
intelikeyMomal i don't think you can.   it's a kernel error message   it's not something you can redirrect in the script.07:59
Momaloo07:59
Momaljust throwing in random ideas >_<07:59
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Momalim about to saw up anything with the word microsoft in my house08:00
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intelikeywell one could tell the kernel to keep it's errors to it's self.... hehhe another bad idea.08:00
Momallol08:00
Momalprobly best to just fix whats causing the errors ^^08:00
intelikeyprezactly08:01
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Momalyou dont' happen to use samba with windows? lol08:01
intelikeyi don't happen to do windows piriod08:01
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Momallucky... I wish all games ran in linux :'(08:03
Momalonly reas why I still have windows08:04
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intelikeyso if that's the only reason, why samba ?08:04
intelikeyor am i missing something ?08:04
MomalI have all my hd's are in my linux box... and I have all my cds/dvds converted into image files ^^. I have 840gb hdspace so I put them all to images saves using the cds :)08:06
intelikeyi see.08:07
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Momalit still hasn't copyed that 6mb over :S08:09
intelikeyi think i'll drop a fork bomb on my system to test the security/limits    if i ping out you'll know why   :)08:09
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Momallolz08:09
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yintelikeinteresting   the ubuntu default kernel can't handel that even with the process limit set to 90    my home grow kernel handels it just fine.08:16
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yintelikeit seem that *buntu built their kernel with OOMK set to "smart" which is susseptable to fork bombs   i built mine with OOMK set to last which kills the last process started when out of memory....08:18
yintelikesmart kills the process that is most idle   which means that every thing but the fork bomb gets killed.08:18
Momallol08:19
yintelikeincase anyone was interested.   :)08:19
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yintelikeMomal ever seen what         :(){ :|:& }; :         does to a linux box ?     hehhe don't try it unless you are ready to reboot.08:20
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Momallol08:21
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Momalonce i get damn windows to finally work properly i'll vmware my other kubuntu setup and run it :p08:22
yintelikeready to reboot or have a custom kernel that can handle it that is.08:22
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MaKaTiGuYi've installed KDE to my ubuntu, how do i switch from gnome to Kde?08:24
JucatoMaKaTiGuY: when you log in, there will be a choice to log into a KDE Session08:25
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MaKaTiGuYjucato: there's none08:25
yintelikefunction :  is defined  :() <--- means make this a function.   as  :|:&     which then when : is executed it pipes nothing to another : and drops to the background   which repetes .....     cpu goes to 100%   it fills the ram with a bazillion instances of :|:&    then the kernels OOMK == out of memory killer    starts killing things randomly.08:26
yintelikeif you have enough ram and swap you can do a killall :   or killall5   in time to stop it.... if the machine will respond in time with the cpu maxed out.08:27
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MomalI have 2gbram and 2gb swap lol that enough ?08:29
krautmoin08:29
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yintelikei couldn't say.  if you want to know you'll just have to test.08:29
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yintelikekraut shalom08:30
Jucatoyintelike: any reason the "y" doesn't want to be at the end of your name anymore? :)08:30
yintelikethere was another me round about ....08:31
Momallol08:31
Jucatooh :)08:31
yintelikei could enforce a kill on it.08:31
Jucatowell it's gone08:31
yintelikeok  if you like it better i'll change my nick.08:31
MomalJucato: know much about samba and windows?08:31
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JucatoMomal: unfortunately, no...08:32
intelikeybetter ?08:32
Jucatointelikey: yes I like it much better :)08:32
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Momalthen in that case... today I mark as the offical day to celebrate how much windows is the worst piece of shitakke mushrooms this world has ever seen08:32
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intelikeyJucato interesting point about the nick.  seems that bx did kill the spook but didn't change my nick back to normal...  i guess i'll have to look into .ircrc08:34
Jucatooh08:35
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intelikeylooks like i have it set to   recover and release  but nothing about switching my nick....     whats the  verable for self ?    %?08:36
Jucatoerr....                      .08:37
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Momalis there a program that I can view (pref gui) everything that is connected to my box and see what speeds they are using on my box (eg transfer speed)08:43
flaccidMomal: ethereal ?08:45
flaccidthat might be suffice08:45
flaccidbut your netstat command is good..08:45
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MomalI just need to see what my windows is acually doing... need to see if it is transfering things from kubuntu or not08:45
flaccidnetstat -a | grep -i established08:46
flaccidor netstat -a | grep -i tcp08:46
flaccidfor eg.08:46
Momaltcp        0      0 10.0.1.1:microsoft-ds   10.0.5.1:1151           ESTABLISHED | seems to be connect.. so why does windows have to be such an annoyance about it >_<08:47
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flaccidwhat is the exact problem, Momal?08:48
kubuntugjgjgj08:49
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Momalwindows accesing my samba share (/media/hdd1 - permissions are set for it) windows is taking way to long to copy and read the files from it (long as in hour+ just for 6mb to copy)08:50
flaccidbut you don't report any smb problems regarding connection/perms?08:50
intelikeythat's slower than dialup.08:50
flaccidMomal: do a testparm to see if your config is ok08:51
flaccidalso do on localhost do smbclient -NL //localhost08:51
flaccidand smbclient -N //localhost/share08:51
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intelikeyhardcoded hardcore.08:55
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flaccidi wonder if there is any audio channels on this server08:57
flaccidwho can test this08:58
flaccidfile:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html08:58
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flacciddefault page for firefox08:58
flaccidthe links for table of contents are 40408:58
Momalyup they are 404 for me08:58
Momalumm using smbclient connected fine and testparm didn't return any errors08:58
Momal:S08:58
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flaccidhmm08:59
flaccidhave you tried from a different lan client?08:59
flaccidto d/l that is08:59
Momalnope don't have any others... but when I boot up with linux on the box with windows it gets the data fine :S08:59
flacciddual boot?09:00
Healottwo boots :)09:00
intelikeyls /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html09:00
intelikeycelsion: /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html: No such file or directory09:00
flaccidintelikey: seems hard to believe that kubuntu didn't include them09:00
Momalyea i have 2 boxes... 1 with jsut linux(one im on) and another one with windows and kubuntu09:01
intelikeyi might not have kubuntu09:01
flaccidMomal: sounds like your windows might have an issue09:01
flaccidpastebin your smb.conf if you like and i'll just check it09:01
intelikeyi installed ubuntu hoary server install   then did  dist-upgrade to dapper and apt-got kde09:01
intelikeyconvoluted i know.09:02
flaccidintelikey: looks like its the same for normal kubuntu installs. pretty hectic error.09:02
flaccidi actually wanted to read the pages lol09:02
intelikey:)09:02
intelikeyhmmm actually there is nothing even close.09:03
intelikeycelsion: /usr/share/*buntu: No such file or directory09:03
intelikeycelsion: == ls:09:04
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Momalflaccid: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/200533 <-- smb.conf09:04
intelikeyi changed the nick completion char but have to restart bx for it to take affect i guess.09:04
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intelikeyok i'm out.09:05
Momalit was from an online example then i just changed it :)09:05
Momalcya09:05
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flaccidMomal: i'd say it could be a problem with share security mode and NetBT election09:07
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flaccidalso could be conflicting with windows as a domain master and local master09:08
flaccidhey fildo09:08
flaccidyou probably don't won't dns proxy as well09:08
Momalhmm how to fix ?09:08
fildohey flaccid09:10
flaccidi'm not sure if the interfaces should be the ip address instead of network ip09:10
flaccidits not a good idea to an example, retro-fit it and not understand some of the directives09:11
flaccidi'll annotote it09:11
flaccidMomal: what is the workgroup09:11
Momalmshome09:11
Momalwindows ip: 10.0.5.1 | linux ip: 10.0.1.109:12
flaccidwhat is the ip of the windows client?09:12
flaccidah well there is the problem09:12
flaccidpossible09:12
flacciddoesn't match interface09:12
flaccidwhich is prolly ignored anyway09:12
Momaloo09:13
flaccidhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/20054709:15
flaccid^^ try that Momal09:15
flaccidalso check logs09:15
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max_hi, can anyone help me...im having problems unpacking a .7z file, my p7zip keeps giving me errors09:16
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max_anyone?09:18
Momalflaccid: windows is asking for user/pass when tying to access \\10.0.1.1\ and saying wrong userpass on \\10.0.1.1\hdd1\ | the log just says samba was started no errors09:19
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MDCoreso.. I'm busy download 3.5.5... how's it running for everybody ?09:19
Momalno problem with kde 3.5.5 here :)09:20
flaccidi think i left guest out09:20
flaccid1 sec09:20
flacciddo you want that share as guest access, Momal09:24
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Momalyea so anyone can see and read from it09:24
MDCoreI found 3.5.4 to be a lot slower+flakier of 3.5.2... I dunno, it's very subjective :)09:25
flaccidMomal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/200558 can you please testparm it first09:26
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Momaltestparm went fine only gave : WARNING: passdb expand explicit = yes is deprecated | as the only warning and no errors09:27
flaccidok09:28
flaccidgive it a try09:28
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max_ hi, can anyone help me...im having problems unpacking a .7z file, my p7zip keeps giving me errors09:30
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Momalok its fast at browsing the files going through folders but as soon as I start coping somthing its really slow09:30
flaccidcheck the logs09:31
ubuntufriend... where i can put edubuntu09:31
Momalafter one that says samba started up09:32
Momal[2006/10/13 17:30:01, 1]  smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(693)09:32
Momal  vm-win (10.0.5.1) connect to service hdd1 initially as user nobody (uid=65534, gid=65534) (pid 8348)09:32
Momalthats all it has09:32
flaccidok09:32
flaccid9/10 your windows install is stuffed in some uknown way. because its closed-source and m$. no way to tell.09:33
flaccidcheck event viewer in windows09:33
Momalyea 10/10 its windows lol...09:33
flaccidunfortunately09:34
ubuntufriend... where i can put edubuntu09:34
max_hello? can anyone help please09:34
flaccidat least you have an ok samba config now09:34
flaccid!ask > max09:34
flaccid!ask > max_09:34
dudewhat is the command for showing the version of KDE?09:35
ubuntumax_: im from central kalimantan university, want put edubuntu freeShip09:35
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MomalThe redirector failed to determine the connection type. <-- MRxSmb said its a warning and there is tons of them09:35
max_ hi, can anyone help me...im having problems unpacking a .7z file, my p7zip keeps giving me errors09:36
flaccidMaKaTiGuY: dpkg -l | grep -i kde | grep kdebase09:36
Healotmax_:ask ahead09:36
MaKaTiGuYtnx09:36
flaccidMomal: ?09:36
max_ask what?09:37
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flaccidyour question, max09:37
max_i did09:37
max_errr09:37
Healotcan anyone help me?09:37
flaccidsomebody will respond if they can help09:37
MaKaTiGuYhow can i downlaod the version 3.5.5 of KDE09:37
Healotthe answer to that is "ye"09:37
Healots09:37
max_i need help getting p7zip to unpack 7z's09:38
flaccidMaKaTiGuY: goto http://kubuntu.org and follow the link09:38
flaccidmax_: try ##linux09:38
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max_i installed it, used 7z e <filename>.7z to unpack, but it givs me errors, does anyone run 97zip>09:38
flaccidi don't09:39
Healotwhat are the errors specifically?09:39
flaccidgoogling the errors can help09:39
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max_ummm, h/o for error09:40
MomalThis error message is only informational. You can safely ignore it. <-- yea ok microsoft you know jack crap don't you09:40
MaKaTiGuYwho among you are using KDE 3.5.5?09:41
max_Error: <filename>.7z is not supported archive09:41
flaccidi am MaKaTiGuY09:41
MomalI am using it as well09:41
MaKaTiGuYflaccid: what are the new feautures?09:42
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flaccidMaKaTiGuY: have a read of the changelog09:42
flaccidhttp://kde.org/info/3.5.5.php09:43
MaKaTiGuYk, tnx09:43
flaccidhttp://kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.5.php09:43
flaccidits not much but yeah09:43
killefizhmm - is kopete missing from the dapper kde 3.5.5 repository or am I stupid?09:43
flaccidbut you get kopete update09:43
flaccidkillefiz: its there09:43
flaccidhangong09:44
flaccidmaybe not killefiz09:44
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flaccidkillefiz: i think you are right09:45
killefizan apt-get install kopete fetches the 3.5.4 package from dapper-backports09:45
flaccidsudo apt-cache madison kopete09:45
flaccidits not coming up. correct09:45
killefizhmm - so no jabber groupchat yet09:45
killefizmy other machines run edgy - that does have 0.12.309:45
flaccidwell 0.12.3 was meant to come with the new kde09:45
max_healot: can you help?09:45
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flaccidso yeah doesn't loook lik ubuntu packaged it09:46
MaKaTiGuYflaccid: what is the command line to download KDE 3.5.5 from my terminal window?09:47
flaccidMaKaTiGuY: did you read the link on the kubuntu homepage?09:48
killefizflaccid: it seems to be a packaging problem only09:48
flaccidyeah package as its not there as you say :)09:48
MaKaTiGuYflaccid: so i have to download it from the site??09:49
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flaccidMaKaTiGuY: no. did you read this http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php ?09:50
flaccidyou add a repos and then you do an upgrade with your fav. package manager09:51
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MaKaTiGuYok hold on09:51
maryenhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii09:51
MaKaTiGuYflaccid: how about the wine application, is it included in ver 3.5.2?09:52
flaccidMaKaTiGuY: wine is not part of kde09:53
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maryeni was gonna ask about that09:53
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MaKaTiGuYflaccid: so what windows emulator should i use? any suggestions?09:54
flaccid!wine09:54
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ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:54
flaccidwine09:54
flaccidbut its not an emulator :)09:55
maryenwine is not an emulator09:55
maryenis what wine stands for09:55
MaKaTiGuY?09:55
flaccidyeah09:55
maryen(W)ine (I)s (N)ot an (E)mulator09:56
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flaccidwindows uses the same arch so its not emulation :)09:56
flaccidmaryen is up wit it09:56
maryensuch a confusing acronym tho09:57
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HealotWINE will make you drunk09:58
Momalwindows is really screwy >_<... I rebooted it now it reads from samba fine :S09:58
maryenVODKA will make you drunk faster tho09:58
flaccidMomal: yeah sounds right. you got a good samba config out of it then :) share security mode has a lot of issues with election anyway09:59
MaKaTiGuYwhat is this error "Su returned with an error." when i click the update manager09:59
flaccidfermented pumpkin wine sitting on an airconditioner for 3 weeks will make you more drunk :)09:59
MomalIf I wanted to say make it have write access by putting in a user/pass just to that share is that possible?09:59
maryen(V)odka (O)wes (D)an (K)DE (A)SAP09:59
MaKaTiGuYwhat is this error "Su returned with an error." when i click the update manager10:00
maryenflaccid drank too much pumpkin wine10:00
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maryenwhat did you enter makati10:01
flaccidw0a first time konversation crashed on me10:01
flaccidMomal: yes10:01
maryenoh no! linux is ending!10:01
MomalNOOO you left and came back now your name is in another color >_<10:01
Momallol10:01
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MaKaTiGuYmaryen: i just clicked the update manager10:02
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flaccidzomg10:02
maryengo to konsole and type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'10:02
hyperhello abattoir10:03
MaKaTiGuYhow about the new version ok kde10:03
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maryenhuh10:03
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maryen?10:03
maryendo as i say before i hax your boxen10:04
flaccidhehe just update, MaKaTiGuY like what maryen said and you'll get the new kde10:04
hyperQuestion: I have dapper on one partition and edgy on the other one. So when I boot up I have tons and tons of entries in grub. If I format now the dapper partition, will grup auto-update the boot entries?10:04
flaccidhehe10:04
flaccidhyper: no10:04
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hyperflaccis: so what's the best way of getting rid of the dapper partition then?10:04
flaccidhyper: sudo update-grub10:05
flaccidafter your parts are how you want10:05
maryennuke it and do what flaccid said10:05
hyperthx flaccid10:05
Lamingtonhello10:05
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maryenhi10:06
LamingtonI seem to have a problem reading disks in my dvd drive10:06
maryendvd playback?/10:06
maryenor other problems?10:06
Lamingtonother problems10:06
maryenyou handle it flaccid10:06
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flaccidhehe10:07
Lamingtonuhmm... my housemate wanted me to use mandvd to put some xvids or something on a dvd for him but I get a malformed url message10:07
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Lamingtonwhen I put one of my own disks in it reads it10:08
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Lamingtonhis windows system doesnt like it either... it was burned on a mac10:08
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flaccidobviously the optical media is fux0red :)10:09
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Lamingtonhmm... I'll just stick it in the mac and check... brb10:10
dude_maryen:  GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following sign atures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F 120156012B8371810:10
maryenwho is dude?10:10
maryenyou need the gpg key for 3.5.5 im presuming dude10:10
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MaKaTiGuY^ok10:11
flaccid!find gpg10:11
ubotuFound: libgpg-error-dev, libgpg-error0, libgpgme11, libgpgme11-dev, gnome-gpg (and 12 others)10:11
flaccid!find gpgkey10:11
ubotuFound: gpgkeys10:11
flaccid!gpgkeys10:11
ubotugpgkeys: GPG Keymanagement frontend. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 71 kB, installed size 268 kB10:11
flaccidhmm10:12
maryen'wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg' in konsole makati10:12
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maryenlol flaccid10:12
maryen!botsnack10:12
ubotuYum!10:12
flaccidwe really need a gpg key adding wiki entry for ubotu10:12
maryenya10:12
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Lamingtonback10:13
LamingtonIt works fine on the mac10:13
greg__does anyone here ever have a lot of trouble getting kopete to connect to aim?10:13
Lamingtondisk loads ok, you can look at the files... some folders with xvids in them10:13
maryenits obviously apple's fault, now let's all get some sleep10:14
Lamingtonheh10:14
flaccidLamington: how is it mounted on mac. use the same mount command.10:14
Lamingtonflaccid: no idea :P10:14
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LamingtonI'll have another look...10:14
Lamingtonbrb :P10:15
maryenbye10:15
MaKaTiGuY^maryen: i can;t get it than... : (10:15
flaccidmac os x is unix :)10:15
maryenhuh?10:15
maryenwhy not makati10:15
flaccidis it the right key for the repos10:16
flaccidthere is several mirrors available10:16
maryenit should be, it came from the 3.5.5 install guide10:16
MaKaTiGuY^sorry, first time to use linux10:16
maryendid you see my previous message makati?10:16
flaccidyeah its the right key10:17
maryen'wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg' copy this and paste it into konsole using shift+insert10:17
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MaKaTiGuY^ok10:17
flaccidi would recommend going to /tmp first :)10:17
maryenno way10:17
MaKaTiGuY^its done10:17
maryeni love key files littering my homefolder10:18
maryennow try the first step again10:18
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flaccidhehe. but user pwd could be anywhere :)10:18
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maryen'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' MaKaTiGuY^10:19
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MaKaTiGuY^which step? this one? "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"?10:19
maryeni wish your name wasn't so hard to type10:19
flaccidyep10:19
maryenyes10:19
flaccidhehe10:19
flaccidno tab complete, maryen?10:19
maryenOMG a new feature10:20
maryenthis obviously wasn't there before because im far too smart to miss it10:20
MaKaTiGuY^ok, ill change my nick10:20
flaccidhaha10:20
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Me:)10:20
maryenlol k10:20
maryenyou not registered flaccid?10:21
Me:)sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 13 14:32:15 200610:21
flaccidi am10:21
maryenah i wasn't recognized, try again10:21
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flaccidhehe its always been in konversation iirc afaik :pp10:22
maryenMe: reboot and try again10:22
flaccid!find time10:22
ubotuFound: cracklib-runtime, gij, gij-4.1, kdemultimedia-dev, kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data (and 93 others)10:22
Meok10:22
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flaccid!find time synch10:22
maryenthat didn't help much10:22
maryenlol10:22
flaccidmeh10:22
maryenc'mon ubotu, show us your wisdom10:23
Mehehehe, nice...i love linux...10:23
maryenflaccid, you know how to fix a timestamp error w/o a reboot?10:23
flaccidum10:24
flaccidwhat timestamp are we talking about10:24
livingdaylightbash: ./configure: No such file or directory ???10:24
maryensudo timestamp10:24
maryenerror=sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 13 14:32:15 200610:24
flaccidlivingdaylight: no configure is with your source or you are in wrong dir10:24
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flaccidisn't that wrong system time?10:25
livingdaylighttrying to install screensaver: kanjisaver-0.9.10.orig10:25
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xcyborgam I missing something or Kopete is not included in the kde-3.5.5 packages for Dapper ?10:25
Lamingtonsorry flaccid I'm a bit of a n00b10:25
livingdaylightflaccid: i'm definitely in the right directory, coz i just un-tarred the tar.gz file10:25
flaccidxcyborg: doesn't appear to be and i don't know why :(10:25
flaccidlivingdaylight: well there is no configure there :)10:26
flaccidif there is then chmod it10:26
MomalProb just an accidently missed... hopefully it will be put in soon :(10:26
livingdaylightflaccid: chmod it? *gulp* :s10:26
livingdaylightflaccid: the INSTALL file said to ./configure; make; sudo make install10:27
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fildolivingdaylight: is it an rpm ?10:27
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maryensorry, laptop decided i didn't have enough power10:27
fildoer10:27
fildosrc10:27
Lamingtonflaccid: I don't even know where the terminal is buried on a mac :P10:28
livingdaylightfildo: deb package10:28
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livingdaylightfildo: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/kanjisaver10:28
fildon whats the issue10:28
flaccidlivingdaylight: ls -l ./ | grep -i configure10:28
flaccidlivingdaylight: if it doesn't exist, it wasn't included in the archive10:29
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livingdaylightflaccid: what is that command supposed to do? I've pasted it but nothing is coming back10:30
GNUrokubuntu cd contains fsck.xfs?10:31
flaccidits the configure command for compiling10:31
livingdaylightflaccid: is configure something that i need to nstall in kubuntu?10:31
flaccidlivingdaylight: paste me a url to the file you downloaded?10:31
flaccidlivingdaylight: no its included with the package10:31
livingdaylightflaccid: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/kanjisaver10:31
livingdaylightflaccid: i downloaded the tar.gz file at the bottom10:32
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livingdaylightflaccid: created a folder in my home directory called screensaver and cd'd there and untarred it10:32
livingdaylightflaccid: the INSTALL file read ./configure10:32
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flaccidlivingdaylight: i would install the .deb instead10:33
Momalyea i just installed from deb just then works fine lol10:33
flaccidotherwise you going to need to do sudo apt-get install build-essential to be able to do make10:33
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livingdaylightflaccid: i thought i did :) where is it then?10:34
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maryenlivingdaylight, if you wanna install from source, ./configure, make, and make install is the normal routine, but i wouldn't suggest it if you're new to linux10:34
Momalits a sreensaver... should be where you usualy change screensavers?10:34
flaccidlivingdaylight: its linked from the page you pasted10:34
livingdaylightflaccid: so why do i only see the tar.gz file version of it?10:35
flaccidhttp://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fk%2Fkanjisaver%2Fkanjisaver_0.9.10-1_i386.deb&md5sum=6eb0b3904531193085b36c754101172e&arch=i386&type=main10:35
livingdaylightflaccid: sorry, but could you point me to it then10:35
flaccid^^ maybe that10:35
livingdaylightflaccid: thx :)10:35
flaccidthen sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb10:35
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fildoheeh10:35
maryenor, sudo apt-get install kanjisaver >.>10:35
Momalthe source does include the configure script10:35
Momalyea lol10:35
flaccidhehe yeah10:36
flaccidyeah you are right lol10:36
flaccidkanjisaver |    0.9.9-1 | http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages10:36
flaccid!kanjisaver10:36
ubotukanjisaver: Japanese kanji screensaver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-1 (dapper), package size 88 kB, installed size 300 kB10:36
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maryenubotu knows everything, he certainly is smart10:37
flaccidi spank him everyday10:37
maryen0.o10:37
flaccidgood bot he is10:37
maryenhe sent me a pm10:37
maryensmart guy10:37
flaccidsmarter than most10:37
flaccidhe doesn't flood10:37
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flaccidor give you shi710:38
livingdaylightMomal: i was trying to download and install a specific screensaver, what are you saying?!10:38
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flaccidlivingdaylight: do you have the universe repos enabled?10:38
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Momalyou said you thought you installed it so i said you look where you change the screensaver after its isntalled... because you said where is it :p.. didn't know you hadn't had it installed :p... then I was just saying there is a configure script in the source code10:39
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Momalyou learning kanji ?10:39
maryeninstalling the universe repos is a right of passage in ubuntu10:40
maryenno more help till you figure it our10:40
livingdaylightmaryen: true, i try and avoid instaling from source as much as possible. And with thousands of packages available in Ubuntu's repos i dont ever usally need to. If one does happen to be one i want that is not included i'm usually caught by the second net of .deb packages which are almost as easy to install. In this case i didn't see that there was a deb package. Having said that i don't understand why ./configure10:40
livingdaylightdidn't work?10:40
flaccidhehe10:40
maryenout*10:40
flaccidlivingdaylight: sudo apt-get install kanjisaver10:40
livingdaylightflaccid: yes, naturally10:40
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livingdaylightflaccid: huh, have we got it in Ubuntu repos already?!10:41
flaccidlivingdaylight: yes0r10:41
livingdaylightflaccid: OMG!10:41
Momallol :p10:41
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Momalyou might want to run | apt-get update | everynow and again :p10:42
flaccidyou can thank maryen for dat10:42
grasshoppermaryen: thx for tracking that down10:42
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dudemaryen: what is the first step10:42
maryenlol np10:42
flaccidah grasshopper10:42
maryen'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'10:43
flaccidsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install nexuiz && echo "Go kick some arse!" && nexuiz10:43
sultanfaikhola guys10:43
flaccidhi10:44
Lamingtonflaccid: how do I find out what mount command the mac is using ?10:44
flaccidum10:44
flaccidLamington: mount10:44
dudeGPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371810:44
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maryen0.o10:44
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flaccidmaryen: zomg10:44
LamingtonI'm a bit confused is all10:45
maryenok dude10:45
Lamingtonoh... nevermind, my dumbness... bbs10:45
maryenenter10:45
maryen  Business10:45
maryen  Telephony10:45
maryen  Games10:45
maryen  Development10:45
flaccidLamington: does mount return anything10:45
livingdaylightflaccid: too much hassle, now dependency issues *sigh10:45
Lamingtonbrb10:45
flaccidinteresting10:45
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me^maryen?10:46
Momallivingdaylight: what is it asking for?10:46
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xavierhi10:46
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maryenoops10:46
xaviercan someone help me install a good pppoe client ... without using xterm?10:46
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flaccidLamington: mount should return by default on os x10:47
maryenme^: do ' wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg'10:47
xavieri found a kpppoe client on google ... but i dont know how o install tar files :( anyone?10:47
maryenme^: then 'sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg'10:47
me^ok10:47
me^tnx10:47
maryenthen the sudo update and upgrade10:47
flaccidLamington: cat /etc/fstab10:48
Momalxavier: kopete should be listed in adept... or sudo apt-get install kopete10:48
livingdaylight!paste10:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:49
xavierkopete is an instant messenger program right? i want to connect to my ISP using the PPPOE client10:49
me^maryen: bunch of characters10:49
Momaloh my bad thought you were typing kopete and just did a typo :p10:49
me^what should i do with it10:50
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livingdaylightMomal: doesn't sound healthy does it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26567/10:50
xavier:) Help!10:50
flaccidxavier: i'll look for it10:50
maryenthats fine10:50
maryentry the first command now10:50
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xavierty flaccid .. i googled kpppoe .. but i need help installing it10:51
Momallivingdaylight: by the looks of it... it installed... as for the X errors :S10:51
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flaccid!find pppoe10:51
ubotuFound: pppoeconf, pppoe10:51
flaccid!ppoe10:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ppoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:51
flaccid!pppoe10:52
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE10:52
Momallivingdaylight: Try change your screen saver to it and see if its there10:52
flaccidthere you go xavier10:52
me^maryen...same error10:52
xavieri am currently using the long way to do it ...10:52
livingdaylightMomal: actually first time round i got these dependency issues come up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26568/ but as you say for soem reason it does seem to have installed second time round although those X's scare me10:52
xavierusing xterm to run "pon dsl-provider"10:52
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xavierbut i need a graphical icon client thingie .. which i can click to connect/disconnect10:52
maryendid it download me^?10:53
Momallivingdaylight: Haha.... any random X errors like that scare me to :p.10:53
livingdaylightMomal: believe it or not - i'm actually scared to go and try it- i might just go and have a peek and see if it is even there :s10:53
maryenthe gpg file that is10:53
flaccidi don't know of one, xavier10:53
flaccidkpppoe you say?10:53
Momalhahah... just go ahead if it all blows up then start again :D... but it shouln't10:53
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xavierok .. can u help me install10:53
xavieryes kpppoe10:53
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flaccidok10:54
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maryenme^: ?10:54
Momalflaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26567/ <-- look at the X errors when you have a chance and tell me if its fixable (they are from livingdaylights pc)10:54
xavierkpppoe-0.3-1.i386.rpm <<< how to install?10:54
me^it downloads and saved10:54
xavieror rp-pppoe-3.8.tar.gz << this one10:54
maryenthen you ran sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg right10:55
livingdaylightMomal: dude, its actually there!10:55
Momal^^... now try it out :p10:55
MomalI installed from apt-get and it ran fine :p10:55
livingdaylightMomal: damn...should i click on 'Apply'? *gulp*10:55
me^yes maryen10:55
Momallivingdaylight: click Test first and see :)10:55
flaccidxavier: doesn't appear in sources10:55
maryenwhat repos are you using for kde 3.5.5?10:55
livingdaylightMomal: darn...too late now :)10:56
Momallol!10:56
livingdaylightMomal: what will be will be10:56
flaccidxavier: have you got a URL for d/l?10:56
xavieryes flaccid .. thts the problem10:56
xavieryes hold on pls10:57
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Momallivingdaylight: you can click Test and it will start it up so you can see if it works.. then just click your mouse to get out of it :)10:57
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xavierpls accept10:57
maryenme^?10:57
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me^whats the nxt step after thissudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gp10:57
me^whats the nxt step after this sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gp10:57
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Admiral_Chicagome^: sec10:58
Admiral_Chicagoas in give one10:58
maryenwell if you're getting the same error, it might be your repository10:58
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Admiral_Chicago wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg10:58
flaccidme^: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade10:58
maryenwhat one are you using for kde 3.5.510:58
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg10:58
me^no errors, "ok"10:58
Admiral_Chicagoah i don't know what he wanted to do10:58
Admiral_Chicagoi just got here10:58
flaccidhehe'10:59
livingdaylightMomal: it works!10:59
Momal:D10:59
xavierflaccid:  http://easylinux.info/uploads/rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz10:59
livingdaylight:D10:59
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Momallivingdaylight: offtopic kinda but are you learning kanji?10:59
me^:( same error10:59
xavierflaccid: INFO - http://www.roaringpenguin.com/penguin/openSourceProducts/rpPppoe10:59
carmagonHOLA11:00
livingdaylightMomal: errrr... no, lol11:00
Admiral_Chicagome^: what are you trying to install?11:00
maryenme^: what repository are you using fro kde 3.5.511:00
maryenfor*11:00
livingdaylightMomal: i just thought i might pick something up subliminally11:00
livingdaylightcarmagon: hola amigo11:00
Momallivingdaylight: what would be the use of a screensaver showing kanji and its meaning :p11:00
livingdaylight!es11:00
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:00
Momalhaha!11:00
maryenAdmiral_Chicago: he's trying to get kde 3.5.511:00
Admiral_Chicagodeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main11:00
Admiral_Chicagois the one i use11:01
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me^ok hold on11:01
maryenthats the one i suggest as well11:01
flaccidxavier: cd /tmp && wget http://easylinux.info/uploads/rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz && tar zxvf ./rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz && cd rp-pppoe-3.6 && sudo ./go11:01
Admiral_Chicagoif that doesn't work, post your sources.list in a paste bin please11:01
livingdaylightMomal: i like languages. And i think Kanji is Krazy! a picture for every word?! wow11:01
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Momallol11:01
xavierflaccid: hold on one moment .. trying it one by one11:02
livingdaylightMomal: i find it fascinating. Besides most screensavers are kinda rubbish, so having it do that is no big deal, and exposes me to somethihng interesting11:02
xavieris this one command?11:02
maryenyou know what's crazier? the japanese use small trees to eat! what hippies!!11:02
flaccidits several commands in one line11:02
xavierso just copy and paste?11:02
flaccidyep11:02
xavierty11:02
xavierflaccid: where can i learn about this sudo apt-get install stuff?11:03
flaccid!apt-get11:04
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:04
maryenxavier: it's pretty straightforward11:04
flaccidxavier: do you have pppoeconf installed?11:04
maryenxavier: do apt-get --help for a list of commands and their descriptions11:04
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xavierits waiting response from the server11:04
maryenxavier: as well as apt-cache search to find packages11:04
xavierhey i have the gz file on my desktop ... can u help me without the wget http thing? i think its stuck there11:05
flaccidxavier: i'm just redownloading it11:05
xavierty maryen .. but i have downloaded a lot of tar.gz files .. and i would love to learn how to install tar files11:05
maryenxavier: 'cd Desktop'11:05
flaccidif it is on your dekstiop11:06
xavierflaccid:  ok11:06
xavieryea11:06
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xavierflaccid:11:06
xavierConnecting to easylinux.info|195.13.158.141|:80... connected.11:06
xavierHTTP request sent, awaiting response...11:06
flaccidxavier: cd ~/Desktop && tar zxvf ./rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz && cd rp-pppoe-3.6 && sudo ./go11:06
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flaccidthe server is failing11:06
maryendo you have build-essential xavier?11:06
xavierflaccid: okay .. (fingers crossed)11:06
flaccid^^ install from desktop11:06
xavieryep trying11:06
xavieroops11:07
xavierRunning ./configure...11:07
flaccidcd /tmp/ tar zxvf ~/Desktop/rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz && cd rp-pppoe-3.6 && sudo ./go11:07
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xavierchecking for gcc... no11:07
flaccidcool11:07
xavierchecking for cc... no11:07
xavierchecking for cc... no11:07
xavierchecking for cl... no11:07
xavierconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH11:07
xavierSee `config.log' for more details.11:07
xavierOops!  It looks like ./configure failed.11:07
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xavierumm cool?11:07
maryenxavier: install build-essential and try again11:07
xaviermaryen: were u talkign abt this?11:07
flaccidxavier: do sudo apt-get install build-essential first11:07
flaccidhehe11:07
xavierokay11:07
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xavierflaccid: without the "first" i hope11:08
flaccidmaryen: its kind of like dual assistance11:08
flaccidyeah11:08
maryenyes11:08
xavieryep .. more the merrier11:08
flaccidcoming up the same things which is good11:08
maryenexcept you're the sidekick and I'm batman11:08
flaccidholy smoke batman11:08
flaccidholy cheese sandwich11:09
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maryenthats right my chum, he didn't have build-essential installed, that sick psychotic bastard11:09
xavierwhoa 47 megs!!! c u after a nap lol11:09
flaccidmaryen: also do sudo apt-get install pppoeconf first too11:09
flaccidhehe11:09
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xaviermaryen: ermm?? talking about me?11:09
Dark_Vampire!de11:09
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:09
maryenshh your supposed to be the riddler11:10
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flaccid!riddle11:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about riddle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:10
flaccid!find ridd11:10
maryen!riddle me this batman11:10
ubotuPackage/file ridd does not exist in dapper11:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about riddle me this batman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:10
flaccidubotu needs some learned gotham11:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about needs some learned gotham - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:11
flaccidexactly...11:11
maryenno one asked you ubotu11:11
maryenyou speak when spoken to only11:11
flaccidrofl11:11
maryen!hans reiser11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hans reiser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
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maryenbah, at least get some bios in ubotu11:12
maryen!linus11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
maryen-.-11:12
maryen!torvalds11:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:13
flaccid!tux11:13
ubotutux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/11:13
flaccidheh11:13
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maryenomg, he knows tux but not linus11:13
flaccid!add flaccid = n00b11:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about add flaccid = n00b - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:13
Ash-FoxWhere the heck do I set the default browser to a custom one for GTK applications?11:13
maryenAsh-fox = huh11:13
maryen?11:13
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maryen!gtk applications11:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtk applications - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:14
Ash-FoxGTK/Gnome applications, they keep starting up Konqueror, it's annoying because my default HTML viewer in KDE is set to a custom build of firefox I made11:14
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maryendo you mean kde?11:15
Ash-FoxNo.11:15
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Ash-FoxKDE applications start up the correct browser just fine.11:15
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zorglu_Ash-Fox: there is a gnome utility you can luanch via command line to set this up11:16
maryentry system settings -> Default applications11:16
zorglu_Ash-Fox: i already did it but i dont remember the name11:16
maryenoh wait, thats on edgy11:16
flaccid"in the following browser:" what is that set to?11:16
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Ash-Foxzorglu_, what is the application called, since I don't have gnome installed?11:16
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Ash-Foxflaccid, it's set to determine what application launch based on the MIME type, and the HTML mime type is set to the custom firefox build I made.11:16
zorglu_Ash-Fox: dont remember but it is gnome-blablalba with something about configuration11:16
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maryenwhat happened to me^ btw11:17
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flaccid!me11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:18
maryenubotu doesn't have a very good memory ;.;11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesn't have a very good memory ;.; - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:19
flaccidubotus loves linux11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about s loves linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:19
maryenubotu needs to shut its fat face11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about needs to shut its fat face - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:19
flaccidubotu loves linux11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about loves linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:19
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maryenubotu scorched3d11:20
ubotuscorched3d: 3D artillery game similar to Scorched Earth. In component universe, is optional. Version 39.1+cvs20050929-2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 938 kB, installed size 2480 kB11:20
maryenubotu kde 3.5.511:21
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB11:21
Ash-Fox!fishing11:21
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops11:21
maryenuh oh11:21
flaccidall defensive now ubotu11:21
maryenubotu is gonna tattle on me11:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is gonna tattle on me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:21
maryenshhhhh11:21
Ash-FoxSeriously, it's annoying.11:22
flaccidgotta calm the pets down11:22
maryeni keep forgetting saying its name activates it11:22
maryenfrom now on u.b.o.t.u will be known as 'he-who-must-not-be-named'11:23
flaccidthe bot formerly know as11:23
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maryeni didn't know prince used to be a bot11:23
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flaccidrumours11:23
maryenok im tired11:24
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maryen|zzzg'nite11:25
flaccidcia011:25
Ash-FoxIt would be nice if Kubuntu used DKMS for things like proprietory/restricted kernel modules11:25
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maryen|zzzpersonally i think proprietary modules are fine the way they are11:25
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maryen|zzzthey make you learn a little more about your system11:26
zorglu_whaat is dkms ?11:26
Ash-FoxThey don't really, they just waste my time11:26
maryen|zzz!dkms11:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dkms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
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Ash-FoxDKMS - Dell Kernel Management System. It's a specific piece of software that will automatically compile kernel modules for any kernel the system boots and will install them11:27
maryen|zzzAsh-Fox: it takes me at most 6 minutes to uninstall and reinstall my extra modules  after a kernel upgrade11:27
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zorglu_oh like a .deb but for kernel module then, seems good to me too11:27
maryen|zzzconsidering kernel upgrades are rare on a stable release thats not too much11:28
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Ash-FoxIt's useful for me, because I need to run a custom kernel on my hardware because I cannot use preemptive kernels on my hardware without it locking up11:28
gradinhi guys i gotta problem...11:28
gradinmy kubuntu won't allow me to login...11:28
Momalany error it gives back ?11:28
cpk2hrmm kaffeine doesnt seem to like it when I fast forward when using subs heh11:28
zorglu_well if people like .deb, instead of compiling themselves the programm, they will like dkms for the saem reasons11:28
Ash-FoxIt's also a lot easier to get packages like vmware-player etc. automatically updated for a new kernel when it just came out as a update int he repositories.11:28
gradini can login via the console11:28
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Ash-Foxzorglu_, DKMS is not a package manager.11:29
gradinbut when i attempt to login to the kde login it blackscreens with the mouse then kicks me back to the loging screen11:29
zorglu_ DKMS - Dell Kernel Management System. It's a specific piece of software that will automatically compile kernel modules for any kernel the system boots and will install them <- this matches a package manager definition, no ?11:29
Ash-Foxzorglu_, and distrobutions like Mandriva have been using it package managers, it really simplifies things.11:29
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Ash-Fox*it with package managers11:30
cpk2gradin: i had thsi problem before but cant remember what it was or how i fixed it =X11:30
gradinlast time it worked was the day before yesterday11:30
Momalyou done anything recently that might have changed settings?11:30
maryen|zzzAsh-Fox: but it also decreases the demand for proper open-source drivers, which we should be striving for11:30
gradinit was running and then it locked up for some reason over night...11:30
zorglu_gradin: what have you changed since yesterday ?///11:30
gradini rebooted it and since then i haven't been able to login11:30
gradinnothing...11:30
zorglu_gradin: hehe :) well it is not possible :)11:30
gradini was downloading a lot of random files11:31
gradinhow much harddrive space does it take to be able to login?11:31
Momaldownloading and install or downloading and overwriting or just downloading ?11:31
zorglu_gradin: during the kde login , it meets an error which wasnt there before11:31
Ash-Foxgrandin, did you perhaps install a new version of KDE?11:31
gradinno11:31
maryen|zzzwell im gone, goodnight11:31
zorglu_gradin: ok put the output of 'df' on pastebin11:31
zorglu_!pastebin11:31
Ash-Fox(Since 3.5.5 came out on the mirrors yesterday)11:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:31
gradinthere is no error message it just returns to the login screen11:32
gradin'df'?11:32
zorglu_gradin: it give the disk usage11:32
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gradinah...11:32
gradinit says 100% in use, but using samba i already pulled 1 gig of space off the disk...11:32
gradinunless...11:32
zorglu_put the output in pastebin11:32
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m4x1mumarrghh im so pissed off, why is my screen saver not working???11:33
gradinzorglu_ i'd have to type it all up...11:33
m4x1mumis it kubuntu bug or something?11:33
zorglu_grabin: why ? cutpast doesnt work ?11:33
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shankygood morning11:33
gradinzorglu_ i'm on a different machine...11:33
gradincuz i can't get a gui login on that one...11:34
zorglu_grabin: answer my question :) it will be much faster :)11:34
shankyI have a dapper installed, to upgrade to edgy, is as simple as change the /etc/apt/sources.list replacing dapper with edgy?11:34
zorglu_grabin: can you run 'df' on the box ?11:34
gradinyes, console mode works11:34
gradinit says /dev/hda1 is at 100%11:34
gradinin use11:35
simonaI have installed the kde version of ubuntu, but where is the command to install the package11:35
zorglu_ok :) have fun :)11:35
gradini pulled off some files using samba earlier11:35
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gradinso it shouldn't be full...11:35
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gradinis there a way i can do the equivilent of scan disk for linux from the command prompt?11:35
cpk2gradin: df11:35
Ouaaahhhhshanky : i did that and screw everything. I reinstall :-(11:36
simonascuse me but I don't spek very well in english11:36
flaccid!fsck11:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
flaccidhmm11:36
m4x1mumis screensaver not working a kubuntu problem?11:36
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shankyOuaaahhhh: ok, I take the advice11:37
gradinzorglu_ i have reason to belive the ext3 fs table may be bad, is there a way i can do a scan of that?11:38
zorglu_!it > simona11:38
zorglu_simona: if you prefere italian11:38
simonates11:38
simonayes11:38
simonaI prefer italian11:38
cpk2gradin: yes there is11:38
simonabut how I have to do11:39
flaccidgradin: fsck11:39
zorglu_simona: /join #ubuntu-it11:39
simonaah ok thanks11:39
simonabye11:39
zorglu_bye :)11:40
dthackerHello:  I'm attempting to install Adobe Reader.  I've added the repositories specified in the How to add additional repositories page, but the package acroread is still not found.  Does anyone know the specific repository, so I can verify my sources.list entries?  Thanks.11:40
gradink i cleared 500 mb and now i'm rebooting...11:40
zorglu_!info acroread11:41
ubotuacroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 22263 kB, installed size 53192 kB (Only available for i386)11:41
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zorglu_dthacker: acroread is available in multiverse11:42
zorglu_!universe11:42
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:42
zorglu_!sourceomatic11:42
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:42
m4x1mumdamn it, it is a freakin kubuntu bug11:42
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zorglu_dthacker: those 2 links will helps you to get multiverse repository11:42
dthackerzorglu: thanks, I'll start reading11:42
shanky!edgy11:43
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule11:43
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m4x1mum!kde11:44
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE11:45
xavierwhere can i find "xmms-mpg123" ???11:45
cpk2!info xmms-mpg12311:45
ubotuPackage xmms-mpg123 does not exist in any distro I know11:45
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gradinsweet, i'm back up and running11:46
gradinthanks guys11:46
AyabaraI just installed beagle. Is Kerry the frontend I should use in kubuntu?11:46
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zorglu_yep it is the kde frontend for beagle11:47
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dthackerRegarding sudo.  By default,is any user allowed to sudo for root tasks or just the first user created at install time?11:49
fdovingdthacker: the first user created during install.11:50
dthackerfdoving: thanks11:50
fdovingdthacker: basically the users that are memebers of the admin group.11:51
dthackerok11:51
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FatalPLZ to be _NOT_ shipping xmms-mad as default for people? k, thx, omg lol bbq11:55
flaccidheje11:55
Admiral_Chicagoanyone on edgy having konqueror problems11:56
Admiral_Chicagoi jut updated to 3.5.511:56
andhyi haven't - what kind of problems do you have ?11:58
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Tm_TFatal: Because?11:59
memikephello11:59
m4x1mumguys, is there a kde theme? the icons in kde is so large11:59
FatalTm_T: it <profanity> <random animal parts>11:59
andhym4x1mum: change them to smaller ;)11:59
Tm_TFatal: Give me proper point and I might agree with you.12:00
FatalTm_T: but more to the point, it does fail on more songs than the default one, has worse id3 support, does not equalize the sound and is a general nuisance12:00
Tm_TI see.12:00
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Admiral_Chicagoand12:01
Tm_TWell, I don't really care, I use Amarok <312:01
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Admiral_Chicagoandhy: it won't open at all12:01
Fatalit's of little to concern to us, we always ask the user if they have xmms-mad installed and tell them to remove it12:01
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Fatal*shrugs*12:01
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m4x1mumerm how?12:01
Tm_TFatal: I see, is there bug filed?12:01
Fatali was apalled to learn that kubuntu ships it installed12:01
Fatalheck if i know, i don't use any *buntu12:01
DjDarkmanhy "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" what package do I need?12:01
Admiral_Chicagoit gives me "/usr/lib/kde3/konq_iconview.so: undefined symbol:" erroyr12:02
Fatalwe just have to deal with the gentoo and kubuntu people when they drop by :)12:02
andhyAdmiral_Chicago: go to console and make apt-get update + apt-get upgrade + apt-get dist-upgrade ;)12:02
Tm_TFatal: Check and file bug report if there's none, I don't know a thing about xmms.12:02
Fatalwhy would i?12:02
Fatalit's your users you're buttfucking :)12:02
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fdovingDjDarkman: xlibs-dev12:03
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=== Tm_T haven't heard a single problem yet.
Admiral_Chicago!language > Fatal12:03
DjDarkmanthank you12:03
Tm_TAdmiral_Chicago: :)12:03
Fatalwe're used to spot xmms-mad problems by now, just sad that the users of your dist has to pay the price of the maintainers ignorance :)12:03
Fatalthanks for listening12:03
Tm_TFatal: Concern noted, I hope problem will be solved.12:04
Tm_TBut there's nothing I can do but file bug, but I don't use xmms at all so...12:04
flaccida bug is a bug12:04
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flaccidnot matter what12:04
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Tm_TThat's propably Ubuntu problem more than Kubuntu one I think.12:05
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Tm_TBack to hack ->12:05
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andhyAdmiral_Chicago: dpkg-reconfigure locales12:07
Admiral_Chicagoandhy: i'll give it a shot12:08
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andhyAdmiral_Chicago: i have no idea12:11
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Ouaaahhhhplz hlp : i add firefox w/ adept and it's not in the menu12:14
andhyOuaaahhhh: go to menu editor12:14
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Ouaaahhhhandhy : u mean kmenuedit ?12:15
dthackerI've constructed a new sources.list from source-o-matic, and I'm still not able to find package acroread.  Would someone be willing to look at my sources.list here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26570/12:15
andhyOuaaahhhh: it should be12:16
cpk2dthacker: i think the us repos are currently down12:16
Ouaaahhhhnothing in kmenuedit12:16
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cpk2dthacker: nevermind i guess they are back up12:17
cpk2dthacker: you do apt-get update?12:17
Ouaaahhhhi'm suprised menu is not auto. updated12:17
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dthackercpk2,  I did my update through adept.  Let me give the cl a try..... tnx12:17
andhyOuaaahhhh: ;)12:17
cpk2dthacker: it should be the same, however the us repos werent responding not  minutes ago12:18
Ouaaahhhh?12:18
Ouaaahhhhis this a bug ?12:18
cpk2not 5 minutes ago*12:19
andhyOuaaahhhh: simply add new position12:19
dthackercpk2: check this out, is this a non-responding repo?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26571/12:20
cpk2dthacker: yes, they might still be down =)12:21
cpk2dthacker: you can take out the us. and it should redirect to GB i think12:21
dthackercpk2: vi to the rescue.  I'll give that a try.12:22
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dthackercpk2: are the GPG keys the same, or do I need to regen?12:23
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cpk2dthacker: i think they are the same12:23
dthackercpk2: ty12:23
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hyperIn what file can I route a certain domain query to a specific IP address?  e.g.   www.mydomain.com --> 127.0.0.1 ?12:25
fdovinghyper: /etc/hosts.allow12:25
fdovingehm.12:25
fdovingmake that /etc/hosts12:25
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hyperfdoving: ok... so it's also a hosts file like on windows :) thx12:26
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andhyhyper: no ;) windows have host file based on linuxlike systems ;)12:27
fdovingbut it's the same. :)12:28
hyperandhy: what?12:28
andhyfdoving: sure ;)12:28
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Ouaaahhhhandhy : katapult : how to update list of applications ?12:28
cpk2so i heard the new kde update fixed 1200 (twelve hundred!!!) bugs?12:28
cpk2might actually be worth upgrading, once the repo is on kubuntu.org its presumably safe correct?12:29
andhyOuaaahhhh: where ?12:29
wildchildhelllo there12:29
wildchildHow can I install XGL with compiz on my amd64 and nvidia12:30
fdoving!xgl12:30
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:30
dthackercpk2: that worked. I now have acroread installed.  Thanks to all for the help.12:33
Ouaaahhhhi want to be able to launch firefox from katapult12:33
dthackerWill ubuntu have to use the ice weasel fork instead of firefox for Edgy?12:33
Ouaaahhhhafter doing alt+ space and typing tha fourth letter : fire , firefox is not found in katapult12:34
cpk2thats the second time i have heard this talk about ice weasel and fire fox12:35
cpk2now i have to google ice weasel12:35
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dhq!sources12:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:36
dhq!source12:36
dhq!sourcelist12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
fdoving!source-o-maitc12:37
fdoving!source-o-matic12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about source-o-maitc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:37
dthackercpk2: It's an argument between Debian and the Mozilla Foundation over trademark.  Moz says that FF *must* be distributed with artwork intact.  Debian say that such requirements make FF not free and they will use a fork called Ice Weasel12:37
dhqhow do i reconfigure my soedgyurces to12:37
dhqhow do i reconfigure my sources to edgy12:38
cpk2dthacker: just read the wiki =P12:38
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dthackercpk2: unfortunately I can see valid points on both sides.  Forks get ugly to maintain, though12:39
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dthackerIs there a statement on Ubuntu's wiki?12:40
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dude_what is the update manager of kubuntu?12:42
livingdaylightis it kdesu kate?12:43
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livingdaylightwhat is the kubuntu sudo equivalent for guis?12:43
cpk2livingdaylight: yes12:43
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fdovinglivingdaylight: kdesu12:44
Lecherowhat editor i could to open binary files?12:44
livingdaylightthx, guys12:44
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dude_what is the update manager of kubuntu?12:44
fdovingdude_: adept12:44
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cpk2dthacker: i think i heard that ubuntu is *not* debian and that there arent any problems with ubuntu and firefox?12:44
dthackercpk2: well, hopefully not.12:45
cpk2i am fine with konq anyways so i dont see the problem12:45
cpk2i actually migrated to konq when i switched from windows to kubuntu12:45
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livingdaylight!paste12:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:47
cpk2oh boy livingdaylight is gonna paste something =P12:48
livingdaylightcpk2: heheh...don't worry :)12:48
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livingdaylightcpk2: my java situation is Kool12:48
dude_can any one help me to update my kubuntu, coz, im getting errors while updating12:49
cpk2what errors?12:49
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dude_GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371812:50
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cpk2dude_: did you follow the instructions from kubuntu.org?12:51
dude_ya12:51
dude_i did] 12:51
cpk2did you wget the key?12:51
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dude_what seem to be the problem12:51
dude_what seems to be the problem12:51
dude_yes i did12:52
dude_but everytime tym i update, there goes the error12:52
cpk2and you did apt-key add ?12:52
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dude_yes and it was saved12:52
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dude_what should i do12:53
cpk2dude_: are you using this repo? deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main12:53
serishemaif i have dapper whats the easiest way to update to the latest on a couple of machines? preferably only downloading everything once and not twice?12:53
dude_3.5.212:53
dude_im using 3.5.212:54
dude_KDE 3.5.212:54
cpk2dude_: what are you trying to upgrade?12:55
dude_KDE12:55
dude_KDE 3.5.2 to KDE 3.5.512:55
cpk2so why dont you use the repo the kubuntu site recommends and follow the instructions there?12:55
dude_i think i did12:56
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cpk2i didnt see packages.freecontrib.org anywhere...12:56
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dude_can you help me on this? this is my first time to use linux12:57
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yetiis there a repository that carries more recent versions of common programs? i'd need amarok 1.4.x, and the latest i can find is 1.3.x12:57
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cpk2yeti: backports12:59
yeticpk2, i have enabled backports, but it doesn't have a recent amarok :(12:59
dude_cpk2: can you help me on this? this is my first time to use linux12:59
cpk2dude_: follow these directions http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php01:01
cpk2yeti: one second let me check my repo list01:01
cpk2yeti:01:01
cpk2# kubuntu.org packages for the latest amaroK version (packages, GPG key: DD4D5088)01:01
cpk2deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main01:01
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yeticpk2: oh great :D is there a list of repos like that one?01:02
cpk2!easysource01:02
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:02
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cpk2has latest kde latest koffice01:03
cpk2latest open office i think01:03
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yetithank you01:04
yetisilly me, backports has a more recent version, just forgot to fetch updates01:06
yetiis backports considered safe in general?01:06
dude_cpk2: im getting the same error01:06
Momalgrasshopper: are you livingdaylight?01:06
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Momalyay01:06
cpk2dude_: paste your sources.list01:06
serishemayeti: they aren't officially supported but i run a number of apps from there and i haven't had any problems.01:06
serishemayeti: they probably aren't as secure though if you are worried about security01:07
livingdaylightMomal: yo dog - HOmeboy!01:07
livingdaylightMomal: hahahahaha01:07
Momallivingdaylight: work ?01:07
Momal^^01:07
livingdaylightMomal:  you the Man01:07
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ninHerhi all01:08
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cpk2i'm curious the kubuntu page says that 3.5.5 packages are available for i386, AMD64 and PowerPC, but i am using i686, thats not a problem is it?01:09
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cpk2with kde nonetheless!01:10
dude_cpk2: sources.list?01:10
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cpk2dude_: kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:11
dude_where should i paste it?01:12
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dude_here?01:13
cpk2!pastebin01:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:16
cpk2dude_: use that01:16
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cpk2dude_: however reading the forum it looks like you might run into troubles upgrading to 3.5.501:16
dude_y?01:16
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dude_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26579/01:17
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killefizflaccid: kopete 0.12.3 is there now for dapper01:18
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flaccidoh excellent01:19
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dude_flaccid: same error01:20
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flacciddude_: huh?01:20
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dude_flaccid: when i update my KDE01:21
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cpk2hrmm dude_ you still didnt bother following what kubuntu.org suggests doing to get 3.5.501:22
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cpk2i'm curious the kubuntu page says that 3.5.5 packages are available for i386, AMD64 and PowerPC, but i am using i686, thats not a problem is it?01:22
fdovingcpk2: no, you'll get the i386 packages.01:23
el1984hello01:23
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cpk2fdoving: hmm I wonder if build-dep would be easy for 3.5.5 =P01:23
cpk2i still havent tried making my own package with apt-get01:23
fdovingi would not recommend kde as a test-project :)01:24
fdovingit's huge.01:24
dude_cpk201:24
dude_i did01:24
cpk2fdoving: either way I will need to download kde while I am sleeping =D01:25
Momalanyone had prob with new kopete? i just installed it and kopete crashes on each start :s01:25
el1984sleep? what's that? ;)01:25
cpk2fdoving: but to clarify, I need to do apt-get build-dep and then dpkg -b kde?01:25
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cpk2el1984: its this thing crazy people attempt to do01:26
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fdovingcpk2: let's use adept as an example,as it's doable. 'apt-get build-dep adept' and then 'apt-get -b adept' would work :)01:27
el1984cpk2:  ah, I forgot 2 do that since 2 days lol, had alot of trouble with my linux :(01:27
fdovingcpk2: are you aware that you can set a download limit on apt-get? you can for example limit it to 10kb/s download.01:27
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cpk2fdoving: brief run through of man doesnt mention it...01:28
Momalanyone installed latest kopete yet ????01:29
cpk2and its not really that it sucks my bandwidth, its that I only have a 30kB/s down pipe01:29
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cpk2i suppose I could use my roommates internet to get it, he has about 300kB/s down =)01:29
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ricaneliteIs anyone here running Ubuntu Linux on a Apple machine?01:29
cpk2fdoving: so in theory apt-get build-dep kde and apt-get -b kde should work?01:30
el1984Momal:  what's the latest version?01:30
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Momalits liek 0.12.3 i think something similar just updated with kde 3.5.501:30
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fdovingcpk2: well, if kde were a real package, that would work.01:30
Momaljust saw it listed in the repos since someone said it was in the channel01:31
Momalseems after install kopete crashes on start up :S01:31
cpk2fdoving: so I would have to go through all 280 packages and build them?01:31
cpk2could I && that? =P01:31
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cpk2actually kde says 3.5.5 has 14 or so source packages01:34
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fdovinggrabbing the source and building it would be a good way.01:34
el1984I should alsoswitch to 3.5.501:34
el1984still using 3.5.201:34
cpk2and shouldnt konstruct work?01:35
fdovingyou won't get .deb packages, as far as i'm aware.01:35
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fdovingcpk2: before i forget it, if you want to limit the apt-get max bandwidth (for http-source), you can set "Acquire::http::Dl-Limit "10";" in /etc/apt/apt.conf 10 is for 10KB/sec, etc.01:36
cpk2the konstruct meta/everything sure looks enticing too01:36
livingdaylight!paste01:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:36
cpk2fdoving: ok, thanks01:37
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cpk2is there an apt-get meta package for kde everything?01:39
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fdovingkubuntu-desktop is the closest, as far as i know.01:39
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Momalhow to load back to older kopete mines broke?01:44
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fdovingMomal: can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy kopete' ?01:45
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Momalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26583/01:47
cpk2is there even a noticeable difference when you build from source?01:47
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Linux_Galorewow kde 3.5.5 is allot faster on dapper01:48
el1984hm how do I switch to 3.5.5 ?01:49
el1984still running into 3.5.201:49
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Linux_Galoreel1984: goto www.ubuntu.org  follow the link highlight the first repo listed and add it into adept01:49
cpk2el1984:01:50
cpk2# kubuntu.org packages for the latest KDE version (packages, GPG key: DD4D5088)01:50
cpk2deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main01:50
el1984thxalot u both01:50
Momallinux_galore did you update kopete to 0.12.3?01:50
Linux_GaloreI dont use kopete01:50
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Momaldamn i think somethings wrong with it because i updated and now it crashes everytime i run it :S01:51
Linux_Galoreit has installed 0.12.301:51
Momaljsut try to run it see if it runs01:51
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Linux_GaloreMomal: dod you run sudo dpkg --configure -a01:51
Linux_Galoredid01:51
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Linux_GaloreMomal: also might want to reboot just to make sure its all flushed too01:52
Momalyea it didn't seem to run anything :S01:52
Momalyea rebooted as well :p01:52
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livingdaylightMomal: yea, baby01:52
Momalhaha01:52
Linux_GaloreMomal: well I had to answer two questions when i ran sudo dpkg --configure -a01:52
Linux_Galoreboth kde related01:53
livingdaylightmy resolution has just shrunk01:53
xavierhi i installed xmms using Adept and then when i installed a plugin for xmms it gave an error at the end ..saying "xmms-config not found"01:53
xavierthere is no such entry in Adept01:53
Momalam i good or what :p... beryl running livingdaylight with effects and all?01:53
xavier!xmms-config01:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xmms-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:53
Momaloh strange i'll try reboot again in sec and see if it wants to do anything01:53
livingdaylightMomal: you da Bomb!01:53
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livingdaylightMomal: give me some keys?01:54
xavieranybody know reasons for the "xmms-config not found" error01:54
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xavier?01:54
livingdaylightMomal: how do i get an effect now?01:54
Linux_GaloreMomal: kopete works fine here01:54
Momallinux_galore: thanks will try reboot again soon01:54
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Linux_GaloreI fliped over to adsl2+ yesterday add in a new kde release and Im a happy geek01:58
Momal:O what part of aussie linux_galore?01:59
Linux_GaloreSydney01:59
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el1984and I tried to update and the kde update didn't work01:59
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Linux_Galoreel1984: ok what did you do02:00
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Linux_Galoreel1984: so you went to kubuntu.org right02:00
el1984I added the lines into the sources list,02:01
Linux_Galoreel1984: you only need to add 1 line02:01
el1984but didn't work: GPG error02:01
el1984yeah the first lline's commented with a #02:01
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Linux_Galoreel1984: no you only need to add 1 line from the many listed on the kubuntu page02:02
Linux_Galoreel1984: the first one is all you need02:02
Linux_Galoreel1984: it also explains how to setup the gpg key too on the same page02:02
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el19842sec, have to look at the site02:03
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el1984don't understand what ya mean with: follow the link highlight the first repo listed02:03
cpk2el1984: those 2 lines i gave you was the key and the repo =P02:04
el1984cpk2:  and those 2 lines, I did add :)02:04
Linux_Galoreel1984: ok Linux has a built in cut and past cache  whatever you highlight automatically goes into the paste cache02:04
cpk2el1984:02:05
cpk2# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY02:05
cpk2# gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -02:05
Linux_Galoreel1984: so lets say I highlight the first repo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main02:05
cpk2el1984: replace KEY with the key in what i gave you02:05
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el1984cpk2:  I have to add that into the sources.list?02:05
Linux_Galoreel1984: no02:06
cpk2el1984: no, you ignore the #02:06
cpk2oops02:06
cpk2hehe02:06
el1984that's what I thought02:06
el1984:)02:06
Linux_Galorecpk2: ok he's all your thanks for jumping in half way through and confusing him more02:06
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cpk2=(02:06
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Linux_Galorecpk2: enjoy doing what Ive just dont all over again02:06
cpk2well i already gave him the repo, so all he needs is to do those 2 commands02:07
Linux_Galorecpk2: what you posted means this ti him $@!@#!%#$^^%^^^%02:07
cpk2and he can even paste that into his sources list to remind him =)02:07
ricaneliteAnyone here use Ubuntu Linux on a Mac Machine? Or if someone could help me out!! a linux newbie here and very CONFUSE!!02:08
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Linux_Galorecpk2: unless you "explain" why dont post it02:08
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Linux_Galorecpk2: it just confuses peeople02:08
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el1984well I understand some, just donno where to write that gpg stuff :)02:09
xaviermany packages like flash plugin, java, thunderbird, "xmms-dev" etc give errors during installing :( any specific reasons?02:09
Linux_Galoreel1984: you dont02:09
Linux_Galoreel1984: two steps wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg02:09
cpk2well wgetting and apt-key add following the kubuntu.org sites probably means ^#^@%@ as well02:09
Linux_Galoreel1984: and sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg02:10
fdovingricanelite: what is your problem?02:10
Linux_Galoreel1984: as stated on the page02:10
el1984sudo? *beurk* :) that was the first thing I putted out :)02:10
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Linux_Galoreel1984: do you know how to cut and past text in Linux on the fly02:10
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ricanelitewell I'm trying to install Java and I'm having really hard time I have been reading directions and still cannot get it. So can you please help me out??02:10
Linux_Galoreel1984: its a feature not in windows02:11
el1984ctrl +c and shift insert02:11
Linux_Galoreel1984: even easier02:11
cpk2ricanelite: you have a 32bit system?02:11
el1984with the middle mouse buttoin I guess?02:11
fdovingLinux_Galore: selected text is automatically 'cut'.. to paste, middle click if you have 3 mouse buttons or click both mouse buttons at once if you have two.02:11
el1984i select the stuff, and middle mouse click wasn't ti?02:11
fdovingLinux_Galore: you can also use shift+insert to paste.02:11
Linux_Galoreel1984: yes  just highlight the test and middle mouse button over the spot you want ot past the text and that it, works even in a terminal02:12
ricaneliteI have a G4!02:12
Linux_Galoretext02:12
ricanelitewhich im pretty sure is 32 bit02:12
cpk2ricanelite: its not a ppc?02:12
ricanelitewell it is a Mac Mini Machine!02:13
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Linux_Galoreel1984: so highlight the first line that shows the gpg stuff, ie the wget one02:13
ricaneliteso im pretty sure because on the cover of the Ubuntu CD it says PPC02:13
el1984wget already done02:13
el1984apt-key also02:13
Linux_Galoreel1984: on the kubuntu.org page02:13
Linux_Galoreel1984: ok thats it then02:13
el1984thxalot02:13
cpk2ricanelite: and these directions didnt help you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-81c3789bc76872336f69a7af90d1759ef38eeb6402:14
Linux_Galoreel1984: just run sudo apt-get update02:14
el1984already done :)02:14
el1984I know that sometimes it looks like I'm complicated02:14
Linux_Galoreel1984: the update agent should be asking for you to click on it now02:14
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el1984and yap I am, ran out the complete microsoft products, and have finally switched02:14
Linux_Galoreel1984: the update agent will install kde 3.5.502:15
el1984yap I know :)02:15
el1984already doing :)02:15
Linux_Galoreel1984: once that finnished run  sudo  dpkg --configure -a   that will setup kde 3.5.502:16
fdovingricanelite: you need to get java from http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html02:16
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el1984without sudo 4 me :)02:16
el1984I prefer the classical root shell02:16
fdovingricanelite: you want 32bit iseries/pseries J2SE 5.002:16
Linux_Galoreel1984: I rebootedf just to make sure its all flushed02:16
fdovingricanelite: note, you need to register an IBM ID to download.02:17
el1984ok affter this, I guess that I'll still have my wlan probs02:17
Momalok I rebooted kopete still crashes : the debug output from the kde crash handler is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26588/02:17
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Linux_Galoreel1984: thats a separate issue02:18
el1984yap, I already posted a thread on ubuntforums.org02:18
el1984conerning wlan02:18
el1984concerning02:18
fdovingricanelite: after you've downloaded the file, you follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-0948e66f605ec3c2af4f264c5cfc56f4175659eb02:18
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aztunhi all02:19
Linux_Galoreel1984: I always use a wlan router not a card heh heh02:19
aztunkopete crashes when I go into kopetes config since I updated to kde 3.5.502:19
aztunanyone with the same problem?02:19
MomalI can't get kopete to start from latest update02:19
Momalcrashes as soon as it starts running02:19
sF|Xemanthaztun: nada problems with it02:19
fdovingMomal: did you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy kopete' as i asked earlier? (sorry if i didn't pay attention)02:19
Linux_GaloreMomal: might have to flush the kopeterc file02:19
aztunMomal: it works for me02:19
sF|Xemanthbut it boots faster than before \o/02:19
Momalyea i'll get it again for you02:20
xavierhi i get a permissions error when i try to install a xmms plugin .. it says the following :: /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/lib/xmms/Effect/libeq.so': Permission denied ... any ideas as to why?02:20
aztunbut it crashes when I go to config02:20
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Momalfdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26589/02:20
Linux_GaloreMomal: try  mv   ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc  ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc_bak02:21
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Momalok deleted the kopeterc file (after backup) and now it ran :p02:21
Linux_GaloreMomal: run kopete again02:21
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Momalmust be something in old config messing it up ?02:21
Linux_GaloreMomal: yeah you have a goofy option setup02:21
Momal:p02:21
aztunaaaaaaaaaggg02:22
aztunkonverstaion just crashed too02:22
Momalkonversation is fine here :)02:22
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Linux_Galoreworks fine here02:23
wwwizhow to move trash on the desktop???02:24
Linux_Galorehave to rename konversationrc to konversationrc_bak02:24
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Linux_Galorewwwiz: you mean empty the trash ??02:25
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wwwizLinux_Galore, no, move trash icon to desktop02:25
yetimh, files that i copy to ~/Desktop don't show up on the desktop instantly but only after a reboot, what am i missing?02:25
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Linux_Galorewwwiz: same as windows drag and drop02:25
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Momalerr... i think new kopete is buged up lol.. can't even add an account without it crashing :S.. thats after delted the kopeterc file and it created a new one02:26
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aztunaaag02:27
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Momalaztun: kopete crash on you when you try and add a new account to it ?02:27
aztunI moved ~/.kde/share/conf/kopeterc to /tmp and it still crashes02:27
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aztun:(02:27
aztunno Momal, crashes when I try to change config02:27
aztunI can chat with it02:28
aztunbut if  I go into config it crashes02:28
Linux_Galorewwwiz: then point at your taskbar left click ->Panel menu -> remove from panel -> applet -02:28
Linux_Galore-> trash02:28
Momalso adding new acount would crash for you then >_<02:28
Momalhmm...02:28
Linux_Galoreconfig works fine here02:29
wwwizLinux_Galore, thanx!02:29
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Momallinux_galore I soo hate you lol... hmm why is your kopete working sure its the new one 0.12.3 ?02:29
Linux_GaloreMomal: yes02:29
aztunkonversation crashed again :(02:29
aztunand deleted the old config too.....02:30
Linux_Galoreaztun: did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a02:30
aztunno I didnt02:30
aztunlets try02:31
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Momali ran that but didn't seem to do anything :S02:31
Linux_Galoreaztun: lol, nothing is setup yet it still running on the old defaults02:31
Linux_Galoreaztun: run it and it should install the new config options02:31
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aztunallready done02:31
aztunlets try again02:31
Linux_GaloreMomal: iyou should get 2 questions02:32
Linux_Galoreboth just type Y02:32
Linux_GaloreIve done 2 machines now bot work fine02:32
Linux_Galoreboth02:32
Momalhmm i got no message... how can I make it reinstall all the new kde packages without reseting any of my configureation02:33
Linux_Galoreo 0 ( I must have the Midas touch)02:33
Momalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26591/ <-- konsole output from kopete and the backtrace when it crashes02:34
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Linux_GaloreWARNING: please edit ~/.scim/global and change /DefaultConfigModule to kconfig02:35
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Momalyea looked in the file dunknow what to edit02:35
Linux_GaloreMomal: did you do what the warning asked02:36
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Linux_GaloreMomal: justr rename it lol02:36
Momalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26592/ <-- thats all thats in that global file :p.. i'll try rename/move it and see what happens02:36
Momalkopete02:37
Momalwrong window lol!02:37
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Momallol it just said the same error :S02:37
cyber_brain_mfkgis there proxy settings for kopete?02:37
Momalwell warning02:37
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thelostbyte_cyber_brain_mfkg, yes.02:38
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cyber_brain_mfkghow to change my proxy settings?02:39
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cyber_brain_mfkgi cannot find it:-S02:39
Momalok doens't look liek that was the prob i added: /DefaultConfigModule = kconfig | and the warnind doesn't show now and it jsut crashes lol02:39
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Igor_V2hi02:40
|xchat|cyber_brain_mfkg, It is protocol dependent, so just "Modify" the Protocol your using. It will be there..02:40
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aztun:((((((02:42
aztuncant get kopete to work02:42
Linux_GaloreMomal: create another user account login to it and run kopete02:43
aztunI unistalled and installed agaein02:43
aztunagain02:43
cyber_brain_mfkg|xchat|: there is no any proxy settings in account setup!!! :(02:43
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Momalk brb02:43
Linux_Galoreaztun: same for you aztun create a new user account login and run kopete again02:44
Linux_Galoresounds like you both stuffed up ~/.kde/02:44
Linux_Galoreby not running dpkg --configure -a02:45
|xchat|cyber_brain_mfkg, Sorry, dude. I only see it for the msn account.02:45
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aztunok gonna try02:46
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Linux_Galoremomal your on BigBlonde02:49
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Momalyea its a piece of crap >_<02:49
Momallol02:49
Momalok02:49
Momalwell02:49
Momalit works fine adds account logs in on msn under another user02:49
Momalso why not mine >_<02:49
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Linux_GaloreMomal: because you didnt run the configure stuff straight away so the update script didnt replace all the old stuff02:50
Momalhmm... how can i remove all kopete information from my account ?02:50
Linux_GaloreMomal: you will have to flush/rename ~/.kde/02:50
Momalhas to be more then just koipeterc02:50
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Momalerr... that will like change all my settings O_O02:50
Linux_GaloreMomal: yep02:51
Linux_GaloreMomal: but it will work02:51
Momalthats like more then you think i have my whole desktop changed>_<02:51
Linux_GaloreMomal: I did the same stuff up a year ago and got heaps of conflicts02:52
Momalwould be nice if adept configured it for me >_< last time i use that piece of crap >_<02:52
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Linux_Galoreonly way to fix it was to remove ~/.kderc and ~/.kde02:52
Linux_GaloreMomal: it doesnt neither does apt02:53
Momalwell anyone complete new to linux/kde its going to screw them over :s02:53
AxLHi ! I m new to kubuntu ... I m configuring my ethernet card ... System tells me to click the "admin button" to allow modify but where is this button ? Thanks !02:53
Linux_GaloreMomal: if you run apt-get update  when you do a major change to your system it will show a warning telling you to run dpkg --configure -a02:54
Momaladept didn't i looked though its output :S02:54
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Momalbrb just moved .kde and .kderc.. some of the stuff im going to need to copy back because way too much to have to configure again..02:55
ricaneliteWhen I head over to this site http://serios.net/content/applets/viewinfoawt.php i get this message Loading of Applet Failed can someone please help me out??02:55
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AxLCan anyone tell me where this button is please ?02:57
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MomalOMG where is everything02:57
Dr_Willishmm02:57
Linux_Galorelol02:57
Momalcan't even tell that im using konversation ITSWWHITE>_<02:57
Linux_GaloreMomal: go into kcontrol and select a theme02:58
Linux_GaloreMomal: should fix up most things02:58
Momalwhere is kcontrol by default lol02:58
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Momalthis soo sucks02:59
Linux_GaloreMomal: just type kcontrol in a term02:59
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Momalomg.. amarok settings wern't hold in .kde were they?02:59
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Linux_Galoreyep02:59
Linux_GaloreMomal: thats why I said rename it02:59
Momalyea i did02:59
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Momalbut now i have to copy all back >_<02:59
Linux_Galorejust copy it back02:59
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ch4in`hi! i downloaded a Kubuntu Live CD und now i would like to install kubuntu. but i'm using also win2000. Is it possibile to install kubuntu without formating the filesystem?02:59
Linux_GaloreMomal: pfft takes like 5 seconds you big baby03:00
Momalahha03:00
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aztunLinux_galore I created new account03:00
Momali have more then that to copy back where is the panel settings held?03:00
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Dr_WillisLinux disrtos normally install to their own partitions.. You will need to resize the existing windows install03:00
aztunand kopete still crashes03:00
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Linux_Galorech4in`: yes you put Linux on a seperate partition03:01
aztundont know what other thing I can do03:01
Momalhad to find where konsole was lol!03:01
Linux_Galoreaztun: so you looged in as a new user and kopete crashes03:01
ch4in`linux_galore: so my existing filesystem with windows works also fine and their won't be any problems?03:01
aztunyes03:01
Linux_Galoreaztun: not good03:01
aztunI know Linux_Galore  :(03:02
Dr_Willisch4in`,  normally i resize the windows installs with a Live Cd and the Gparted tool.  Defrag/scandisk the windows drive.. boot a  live cd that has gparted, resize.  leaving a section of the hard drive 'unallocated'03:02
matt_omg is this a kubuntu support channel?03:02
Linux_Galorech4in`: Linux will run off the partition and windows runs of its own partition03:02
Linux_Galorematt no03:02
Dr_Willisch4in`,  you can 'read' the ntfs/vfat partitions of a linux drive.. you can write to vfat drives.. but writing to ntfs drives is considered dangerous from inside linux03:02
ch4in`ok thanks for the help :)03:02
AxLWhere is this button ? :\03:02
matt_oh ok, what is it then?03:03
aztunwhat a shit.........the two programs that I use 24/7 , kopete and konversation, crash both03:03
Momaldefault theme on kubuntu isn't in the list on theme manager :S03:03
Linux_Galoreaztun: muwahahaha friday the 13th03:03
AxLMomal : can you help me to find the admin button please ?03:03
Linux_GaloreMomal: I usually install the plastic theme and use that as the starting point03:03
Dr_Willissome tmes i have to move the windows up.. and 'resize' the windows so the admin button appears at teh bottom.03:04
Linux_GaloreMomal: its in the repo too03:04
Momalyea thats what i put it on but just noticed the starting one with kubuntu isn't there :S03:04
MomalAxL: where are you looking for the administrator button?03:04
aztunwhat a shit03:04
Linux_GaloreMomal: aaah something is missing03:04
MomalARRRR what is ?03:04
aztunI think go to sleep a little siesta03:04
AxLMomal : I m configuring my ethernet card ...03:04
Linux_Galoredont know03:05
aztunand later retry03:05
AxLin network setting .03:05
Linux_GaloreMomal: whateever I have lol and you dont03:05
Momallinux_galore: i hate you lol!03:05
Momalumm03:05
Momalok so AxL:  you brought up the network settings box and you can't see admin button can you see the ok and cancel buttons?03:06
AxLMomal : no03:06
Linux_GaloreMomal: well you learnt to run the configure setup when you update kde at least03:06
Dr_Willissome tmes i have to move the windows up.. and 'resize' the windows so the admin button appears at teh bottom of the windows.03:06
AxLWindow is higher than the dsktop03:06
Momalgarr you really want to die don't you :p...03:06
Momalumm Axl:03:06
Dr_WillisIts a bug with a lot of the kde config tools on this system03:06
MomalAxL: what res are you running ?03:07
AxLWhat is "res" ?03:07
MomalAxL: resoultion03:07
Dr_WillisI use ALT-CLICK to move the window up PAST the top of the desktop.. then drag/resize the bottom of hte window down.03:07
AxLAh .. ok .. I think it is 102403:07
MomalResolution as in screen something x something03:07
Dr_WillisOnce ya can see the buttons. you can use the max button to max the window.. and the buttons to figure it out and appear at the bottom. (some times)03:07
Momalok move the window to the top then drag down the bottom part of the window03:07
AxLI m trying ...03:08
Dr_Willissome themes have a similer issue.03:08
Momalyea Dr_Willis: few dialogs tend to not bring up the buttons on the smaller resolutions :S03:08
Momalwell not show them >_<03:08
Momalif you still can't get to it.. close the window reopen it and press | shift+tab | then spacebar | with any luck that will select the administrator button and run it03:09
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arejayteewhats the command to get my desktop back? lol03:11
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arejayteeluckily i boot into last session and konversation opened lol03:11
AxLWell I did like Dr_Willis said ... with alt ...03:11
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AxLI can move the window out of the desktop03:12
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g_oshStupid question but... updating from dapper to edgy (as a test on a VM), isn't that just to change "dapper" to "edgy" in sources.list?03:12
AxLBut I can not resize the window :\03:12
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AxLMomal: is there a fix for this bug ?03:13
MomalAxL: you jsut need to put your mouse on the bottom bar and hold click and drag it down03:13
arejayteeanyone? basically i have my background and thats it, ive had to do this before when i lost the taskbar and such03:13
MomalI don't think its a bug its part on how the windows work and how they were designed03:13
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AxLMomal: yes I just have to do it but it is not pratical at all !03:14
arejayteewhats the command to get my desktop/taskbar and such back? lol03:15
Momalif your running 1024x768 res it should display find you might jsut have to drag the bar down03:15
AxLMomal: I did not specify a root password during installation . Is there a default one ?03:15
Momalno03:15
Momaljust open konsole03:15
mendredhi hobbsee03:15
Dr_willisMomal,  ive had it mess up with that res as well. and higher.03:15
Momaland type|   sudo passwd03:15
Dr_willis!sudo03:15
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:15
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Dr_willistheres no need to set a root password. :)03:16
Dr_willisUnless you got these bad habbits. :P like i do.03:16
AxLWhat is the root pass for default : that s what kubuntu is asking me .03:16
AxLSudo is launched (textbox)03:16
Dr_willisthe FIRST users password is the 'sudo' password03:16
Dr_willisuse that03:16
Hobbseehey mendred03:16
Dr_willisthe first user is special. :)03:17
arejayteeman this sucks cant do anything lol cmon someone has to knwo it03:17
Dr_willisarejaytee,  ya mean like 'kicker' ?03:17
Dr_willisnormally those things respawn if they crash03:17
Momalbrb need to reload kde see if it dies or not after copying some things back lol03:17
arejayteeyeah thats it, hrmm says its running already but its not displaying03:18
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AxLDr_willis: well .. I think it was but I enter it and I can not configure my eth card too ...03:18
Dr_willisAxL,  "think" ?03:19
Dr_willistry the 'sudo -s' command in a shell..03:19
AxLI can not type anything !!03:19
Dr_williswhen entering the password  in the shell NOTHING is echoed back03:20
AxLDr_willis: well I m root on the shell now ...03:20
Dr_willisAxL,  so now ya know your sudo  password then. :P  thats what you enter in those requestors that ask for the root password03:21
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AxLDr_willis:: yes but I m telling you it doesn't work even if I enter this password !03:22
AxLEverything stay "grayed"03:22
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AxLI can not modify anything even if I enter this sudo password !03:22
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lipeIn debian we use alsaconf to config the sound... now i'm using kubuntu, which is the command to config the sound, please ?!03:23
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Linux_Galorelipe: kmix or alsaconfig03:24
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arejayteenope restarting did nothing03:24
arejayteehrrm sux03:24
AxLDr_willis: moreover it seems I m sudo in the Shell and in the open window (network config) so system don't ask me password when I click "admin mode" .. SO it is a big bug .. It seems ...03:24
lipeLinux_Galore: thx u very much !!03:24
Dr_willisAxL,  cant tell ya.. I just upgraded to kde 3.5.5 so i cant even test :)03:25
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AxLDr_willis: ok thanks ... maybe I can do it with command line at least (I hope !). I just need to change the DNS of the eth card ...03:27
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arejayteeanything else i can try and restart03:27
Linux_GaloreDr_willis: seems allot faster to me ie kde 3.5.503:27
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Dr_willisAxL,  this is linux.. of COURSE you can do it from the command line. :)03:28
arejayteewhat would stop kicker from displaying?03:29
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AxLLinux is still command line ... I thought it will be gui but not yet :\ Pity ...03:29
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Dr_willisAxL,  whatever... i said of COUSE you can ...  the fact that theres some kde bugglets in the control panel is not 'linux's' fault03:30
Dr_willisLinux IS the command line.. the other programs just run on top. Linux is all about Layers.03:31
Dr_williswell Linux IS the kernel.. :P and the command line is closer to the kernel then X :)03:31
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arejayteehow can i kill kicker then from a console to if restarting it fixes my problem?03:31
Linux_Galorearejaytee: killall -9 kicker03:32
ricanelitehow can I get to install Opera, can someone please help me!!!03:32
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Dr_willisarejaytee,  ive had some issues in the past where various .kde/ config files got messed up.. i just moved the .kde dir to .kde_old and restarted kde03:32
fdovingarejaytee: to restart it you can try 'dcop kicker kicker restart'03:32
Dr_willis!info opera03:32
ubotuopera: The Opera Web Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 9.00-20060616.7 (dapper-commercial), package size 5415 kB, installed size 12376 kB (Only available for i386)03:32
Dr_willissudo apt-get install opera03:32
Dr_willisricanelite,  hard eh? :)03:32
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ricanelitethis is the message im getting03:33
fdovingricanelite: you need to add the dapper-commercial repositories: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-9a7a4519857af012ff775e9c0f15fbce6017367603:33
MidMarkor download the deb 9.02 from opera site and right click -> kubuntu menu -> install03:33
arejayteehrrm wierd, kicker in console gives already running, using Linux_Galore cmd says no processes killed, then try kicker again and it works03:33
ricanelitewait im confuse03:33
Dr_willisopera recently had a update dident they?03:33
arejayteethanks Linux_Galore03:33
Dr_willismay be best to download the deb.03:33
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MidMarkyes 9.00 has a lot of bug03:33
arejayteehrmm but now disappeared again!!!!!03:34
Linux_Galorericanelite: aah you havent setup adept yet for the other repo  run adept then go view -> manage repositories and enable them03:34
AxLDr_willis: ok willis thanks ...03:34
ricanelitehow do i run it03:34
ricaneliteim so new to this and so confuse03:34
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Dr_willisricanelite,   ----------->>>  <MidMark> or download the deb 9.02 from opera site and right click -> kubuntu menu -> install03:35
Linux_Galorericanelite:  menu->system->adept03:35
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MidMark9.00 has security flaw too better 9.0203:36
vega-ok, somebody tell me how to get rid of that annoying bouncing cursor in KDE03:37
Linux_Galorevega-: its setup in kcontrol03:37
Dr_willishttp://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=28354&location=122&nothanks=yes&sub=marine03:37
vega-Linux_Galore: ah, kde menu -> system settings? didn't find it..03:38
vega-Linux_Galore: happen to remember more specifically? i searched for it but couldn't find anything related03:38
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matt_i like the bouncing cursor03:38
matt_:)03:38
Linux_Galorevega-:  type kcontrol in a terminal03:39
vega-Linux_Galore: already running03:39
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Linux_Galorevega-: peripherals->mouse03:39
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Linux_Galorevega-:  turn off visual feedback03:39
vega-Linux_Galore: ok03:40
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vega-then restart X? because after "apply" i still get a bouncing cursor03:40
windshearhello03:40
windshearanyone has a floppy drive and is using KDE 3.5.503:40
Dr_willisyes...03:41
Dr_willisbut i dont even know where any floppy disks are at :)03:41
Dr_willisbut I got a drive.. Heh heh.03:41
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windshearDr_willis can you pls try accessing it03:41
vega-Linux_Galore: should it work without restarting X ?03:42
fdovingvega-: it should be applied at once.03:42
vega-fdoving: nope, doesn't do that... :(03:42
AxLJJe veux monter un disque ... c'est la commande mount mais comment lister toutes les partitions ? Y a t il un gui pour ca ?03:42
Dr_williswindshear,  im not sure where in this house i even have a floppy disk. :) ive accessed it befor.03:42
Linux_Galorevega-: sorry found it in kcontrol under Appearance -> launch feedback -> set the bouncing icon to zero03:42
v3ctor!fr03:42
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:42
Dr_willisbut thats been months ago03:42
Dr_williswindshear,  be sure to unmount the floppy befor ya remove it.03:43
fdovingvega-: did you set the dropdown menu to 'no busy cursor' and unchecked the 'enable taskbar notification' ?03:43
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vega-Linux_Galore: yep, thanks :) works now03:43
Linux_Galorevega-: or no busy cursor03:43
AxLIsWhat is the command to see all partitions ?03:43
windshearDr_willis you don't necessarily need a drive, just try to access it. you will see on the drive's light if it works03:43
Dr_willissudo fdisk -l03:44
AxLI want to mount disks with mount command ... but can not remember the command to see partition03:44
Dr_williswindshear,  the disk works... i hear the vmware machines try to access it. :P03:44
Dr_willisAxL,  sudo fdisk -l03:44
AxLThanks Dr_willis03:44
AxLDr_willis is there a gui to mount disk ?03:44
Dr_willisAxL,  i just edit the fstab by hand to get things set how i like them03:45
Dr_willisI put my 'data' drives in my Users Home dir.03:45
ricaneliteHow can I enable Java in Opera?03:45
Dr_willisricanelite,  be sure to mention you are on a PPC system :P03:45
windshearDr_willis hm, you're on a vm... i'm trying to find out if Bug #30207 still exists in kde 3.5.503:45
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Dr_williswindshear,  i just tried to mount the empty floppy.. it clicked a few times then poped up an error. :)03:46
Dr_willisso it seems to be working03:46
Linux_Galorericanelite: have you installed java and set it up yet03:46
ricanelitethats the problem03:46
ricaneliteI dont know what im doing by installing java03:46
ricaneliteit is so confusing03:46
ricaneliteI have read and tried some many thingsd03:46
Linux_Galore!java03:46
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ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:46
AxLDr_willis: command seems not to get the size of partition  in bytes .. Is there a way to get that ?03:47
Linux_Galorericanelite: click on the link ^03:47
windshearDr_willis do you perhaps have a vm with kde 3.5.4 ready?  for me it does not even try to access it03:47
fdovingricanelite: i can walk you through installing java.. join me in #ubuntu-classroom03:47
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Dr_willisI am using kubuntu - i just upgraded to 3.5.5 like 10 min ago. :P03:47
windshearDr_willis what distro ver. are you using dapper or edgy?03:47
matt_how do i find out what version of kubuntu i have?03:48
Linux_Galorefdoving: ooh cool a newbie classroom03:48
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Dr_willislol03:48
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MomalI think kopete is acaully screwed03:48
MomalWas just using it for a bit03:48
Momaland it crashed03:48
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Linux_GaloreMomal: Ive been on kopete now for a few hours, works fine03:48
bubblenutHow can I send KTorrent to the system tray?03:49
Momalgrr03:49
Dr_willisbubblenut,  just close it..03:49
Dr_willisand it should go there03:49
windshearDr_willis you have installed kde 3.5.5 to dapper or to edgy?03:49
bubblenutIt shuts down completely03:49
Dr_williswindshear,  dapper.03:49
Dr_willisbubblenut,  check the settings.. Mine goes to the system tray. it does not exit UNLESS theres no torrents download/uploading03:49
Linux_GaloreMomal: you obviously havent prostrated yourself at the church or the open penguin03:49
Linux_Galoreof*03:49
MomalLOL! shut up03:50
windshearthat doesn't really help me, seems as I have to download it myself...03:50
Momalomfg kopete used to be good now it logs into like all my accounts expect for the main one i use as soon as it goes to login with it just crashes WTH03:50
bubblenutAhh yes, I had to check the "show in system tray", thanks Dr_willis03:50
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Momalthis is seriously making no sense... my main msn account crashes kopete when it trys to login :S03:51
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Linux_Galorethinks*03:51
Linux_Galoreheh heh03:51
Momalis that going to help kopete O_o03:51
Linux_Galoreno Im playing with your mind03:52
Momallets try adding a different msn account i have if this logs in im going to kill someone03:52
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Dr_willisViva La Revolition!03:52
matt_anyone here use aegis-virus scanner?03:53
Linux_GalorePenguinsta's carry gnu'zies03:53
Linux_Galorematt why03:53
Momalits linux...03:53
Momaldid you just come from using windows?03:53
Linux_Galorelol 99.99% of viri are for windows03:53
Momal100% of viri are windows 00.01% of them need windows to infect linux03:54
Momal^^03:54
matt_just having problems working it... yeah i was wondering if i could scan my windows PC with a linux virus scanner03:54
matt_dun have a virus scanner for my windows PC :(03:54
Linux_Galoreonly reason you would run anti virus in Linux is to make sure you dont forward a virus by accident to a windows machine03:54
windshearmatt_ of course you can03:55
windshearthats what linux scanners are made for :)03:55
windshearbut make shure your windows partition is writable03:55
Linux_Galorethats so true its sad, anti linux stuff in Linux is to scan window problems03:55
windshearif using ntfs, best use captive drivers03:56
matt_hehehe :) well aegis is having a problem for me.. i start it up and it says it needs to d/l new virus updates.. problem is that it never downloads them - it just says that it does... so every time i start it up it says the same thing...03:56
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matt_nah im using vfat, ive heard linux has problems writing to ntfs?03:56
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Linux_Galorematt well you need to point it at a local mirror for the virus sig stuff03:57
matt_hmm, how would i find a local mirror?03:57
m4x1mumhow to use trickle? i tried this trickle -d 40 but it doesn;t work?03:57
Linux_Galorematt if your never sure go to the apps home page03:57
matt_kk i'll do that.. thanks03:58
Momalwhat do I do if kopete wont login to 1 msn account but will on every other single account >_<03:58
Momalits as soon as it grabs my contact list for the account then it just goes bam and crashs >_<03:58
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AxLDr_willis: I m editing fstab ... what should I write in the option for my fat 32 partition containing windows ? auto iso ?03:59
Momalthis makes no sense what so how how can every account login and not one :S04:00
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_Shade_hi there04:01
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Dr_willisvfat  for the filesystem04:01
_Shade_could anyone help me in solving this one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/65783 ?04:01
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AxLDr_willis: ok but for option ?04:02
Dr_willis  /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     nvfat  defaults,user,users,umask=007,gid=46 0       104:02
Dr_willisoops typo04:02
Dr_willis  /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     vfat  defaults,user,users,umask=007,gid=46 0       104:02
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radanterhi, can anyone help with a CUPS/Samba problem?04:02
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matt_lol yeah i have a CUPS problem too now that ya mention it... hehe04:03
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matt_ive been playing the linux game for over 4 hours today.. i should really give up and sleep i think :P lol04:03
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radanterI can print fine from local machine and remote kubuntu using cups, but printing from Windows fails04:04
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AxLDr_willis: auto for auto on strat up no ?04:04
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Linux_Galoreradanter: theres a windows cups client04:05
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Linux_Galoreradanter: allows you to use a Linux machine as a print server for the window machine04:05
Linux_Galoreanway time for bed04:06
m4x1mumhow to use trickle? i tried this trickle -d 40 but it doesn;t work?04:06
Momalkonversation from new update... after i flushed my .kde wont let me change colors for the nicks and colored test in irc messages :S04:06
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Dr_willisauto is for the filesystem :) nothong to do with auto-starting04:08
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radanterLinux_Galore: hmm, ok maybe I should try that. Seems odd that I can't print via Samba though. File shares, etc, work just fine.04:09
radantererror seems to be something about opening comms with the printer04:09
radanter"open print channel failed"04:10
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AxLKate just crashed .. Is there a way to launch it again without rebooting ?04:14
MDCorewhat do you guys recommend as a client for playing "Go" ?04:14
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Dr_willisrun it from the shell? what was you editing?04:14
Dr_willis'launch kate without rebooting' --- is... odd...04:15
Dr_willisits just an editor. Why would you need to reboot?04:15
livingdaylightMDCore: i recommend cgoban3 which lets you play on KGS04:16
livingdaylightMDCore: do you know KGS?04:16
AxLDr_willis: shells tell me it crashed !04:16
livingdaylightMDCore: www.gokgs.com04:16
MDCorelivingdaylight: thanks.. no no Idea.04:16
AxLI can not lauch it !04:16
MDCorelivingdaylight: I read an article about go this afternoon.. now I'm trying to find a way to play it :)04:16
livingdaylightthere is a go client in repos . use Synaptic or Adept to search for 'go'04:16
Dr_willisAxL,  you got bigger issues if Kate is carashing.04:16
livingdaylightMDCore: but it is a client for IGS and if you speak English then KGS is way more fun04:17
MDCoreok. Yeah.. english is for me :)04:17
Dr_willisAxL,  whats the excact error message?04:17
AxLI ve just reboot ... I don't know :\04:17
livingdaylightMDCore: you got a rank?04:18
MDCorelivingdaylight: no.. I have heard of go. but today is the first day I've made any move to actually play it.04:18
MomalIs it possible Kopete is crashing due to to many contacts.. I only have like 110 at the most loading from the acccount :S04:19
MDCorelivingdaylight: unless reading the wikipedia article gives one some sort of rank (prooobably not) I'm nowhere ;)04:19
nomelosewenas04:19
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DjDarkmanhy ,where can I get a wine?04:21
DjDarkmanI have a 64 bit processor so the wine repository won`t work04:21
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Dr_willisNot sure how well wine works on 64bit. may need to compile it.04:22
Dr_willis!wine04:22
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:22
AxLDr_willis: it is still crashed ... here is the message when I do "sudo kate etc/fstab", type password then Error : "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 004:22
Dr_williswhen i used wine on my 64bit system - my game ran at 2x speed.04:22
AxLlink points to "/var ..."04:22
DjDarkmantried that04:22
DjDarkmanconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables04:22
DjDarkmanSee `config.log' for more details.04:22
Dr_willisAxL,  try sudo rm /var/tmp/kdecache-root04:22
livingdaylightMDCore: hey, reading wikipedia prolly gives you a 50k rank - its a start lol04:22
Dr_willisDjDarkman,  install the compiler tools. :)04:22
Momal!compile04:23
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:23
Dr_willis!info build-essential04:23
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB04:23
DjDarkmanhave those04:23
Dr_willisTHen you missed somthing.04:23
Dr_willisor wine may need some more dev packages04:23
MDCorelivingdaylight: hmmm. I'd feel safer playing against a computer.. at least till I worked out the basic rules!!04:23
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DjDarkmanhmm let`s see ,gcc libc build-essentials automake04:23
livingdaylightMDCore: oh, there is a good site for that04:23
DjDarkmanwhat did I miss?04:23
AxLDr_willis: it tells me rm can not : it is a dri04:24
Dr_willischeck that log file and see what it does..04:24
AxL*dir04:24
livingdaylightMDCore: on KGS though you can also play bots - they are robots04:24
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Dr_willisAxL,  cd to the dir..  cd /var/tmp04:24
MDCorelivingdaylight: oh cool.. how do I find one.. I've logged in as a guest.04:24
Dr_willisThen carefully use rm -rf kdecache-root04:25
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Dr_willissudo may be needed04:25
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AxLDr_willis: root or my username ?04:25
AxLad is my username04:25
Dr_willisAxL,  try as a user.. then with sudo04:25
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AxLDr_willis: no , i meant the dir to erase ? ad or root ?04:26
AxLAs error is on ad ...04:26
livingdaylightMDCore: on the kgs site ask there. Basically you look out for it where all the tables are set so to speak04:26
Dr_willisAxL,  could just remove the whole dir..04:26
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AxLDr_willis: it is not dangerous ?04:27
Dr_willisAxL,  thats why you be very carefull04:27
MomalDjDarkman: do you have g++ installed?04:27
Dr_willisAxL,  your error seems.. odd..04:27
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Dr_willisthat file should of been removed when you rebooted04:27
DjDarkmanyep ,I`m learning qt and it uses q++ when I compile04:28
Dr_willisls    shows me --> kdecache-root  kdecache-willis04:28
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FiretechI updated to KDE 3.5.5 (dapper) and now the search field in konqueror is gone, and I can't find any way to get it back. bug or feature?04:28
AxLDr_willis: ok it erased but kate is still crached04:29
AxLKate : communication problm with kate04:29
Dr_willisAxL,  could just try a different editor. :)04:30
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Dr_willisFiretech,  it does seem like its missing04:30
MomalDjDarkman: im outta ideas.. I remember I had that error at one stage and I installed g++ and fixed it up... install cpp as well04:30
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AxLDr_willis: give me one ... not vi please :)04:31
DaSkreechAxL: I04:31
Dr_willisAxL,  vi is worth learning. :P04:31
FiretechDr_willis: I noticed you can search fine using the location bar,  but there's no changelog entry about it...04:31
Momalcpp, g++, gcc <-- if you have all of them it shouln't have a problem that error seemed to be related to it trying to find the compiling engine04:31
Dr_willisinstall mc and use mcedit04:31
Dr_willismc is SOO handy04:32
DaSkreechAxL: Then you have II, III, iV, V04:32
MDCoreyeah...... just noticed too, no more search bar! o_O04:32
AxLDr_willis: I can not install anything as I need to edit my DNS of my eth card ...04:32
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Dr_willismcedit, cream,  fte, nano, pico,  emacs04:32
Dr_willisAxL,  now ya know WHY its worth learning vi. :)04:33
DaSkreech!editors04:33
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code04:33
AxLI don't want console editor ... peqe !!!04:33
AxL:)04:33
MDCorenano..04:33
Dr_willisAxL,  get over it...04:34
v3ctorvim has gui ;)04:34
MDCoreit's console text editing for dummies!04:34
DaSkreechAxL: kdesu kate04:34
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Dr_willisDaSkreech,  kate is crashing for him04:34
Dr_williswhich is a bad sign04:34
DaSkreechWith what error?04:34
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DaSkreechHas he tried kwrite?04:35
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dudewhat is the package installer in kubuntu?04:36
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DaSkreechadept04:37
v3ctordude: adept for gui, aptitude for cli04:37
v3ctoror apt-get for cli04:37
AxLTrying kwrite (Whaouhh ! I can configure my network with a GUI .. now it works !! Sometimes linux works ... I m happy !)04:37
DaSkreechv3ctor: ha ha :-) I just realized his name is actually dude04:37
dudetnx04:38
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v3ctorlol04:38
DaSkreechProbably going to have the client pinging him a lot ;-)04:38
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gokulist04:38
DaSkreechAxL: You work with it it works with you04:38
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dudei installed an application, but i cant find that application04:41
AxLKwrite worked .. I couls edit the file ... but I got a error : "/var/tmp/kdecache-ad" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0 ...04:41
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dudewhere should i find it?04:41
v3ctorwhat did you install?04:42
AxLWhat is this error ... ?04:42
dude3ddesktop04:42
DaSkreechdude:  type 3ds at the command line04:42
dudeterminal window?04:42
DaSkreechAxL: reopen kwrite with sudo04:42
MetaMorfoziScan i workaround to a program use other setting directory?04:42
DaSkreechAxL: type kdesu kwrite04:42
DaSkreechdude: Yes04:43
kokokoko!reiser04:43
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.04:43
dudetnx04:43
AxL!kdesu04:43
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:43
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DaSkreechMetaMorfoziS: Eh?04:43
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dudenot found04:43
MetaMorfoziSso i want for example to try ff204:43
DaSkreechdude: try 3ddesk04:43
MetaMorfoziSbut i want to ff2 use other .mozilla dir04:43
MetaMorfoziSor .mozilla2 or anything...04:44
puttlickIm such a noob at kubuntu, Why can't i create a file in autostar, I think i have to login as administrator but HOW? In konqueror...04:44
dude3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!04:44
DaSkreechMetaMorfoziS: well for Mozilla it's easy04:44
Momalkdesu konqueror04:45
DaSkreechdude: What videocard do you have?04:45
Momal^^ in console/run box04:45
MetaMorfoziSokay, how?04:45
dudenvidia 128 mb04:45
puttlickthx momal04:45
dudeinno3e04:45
dudeinno3d04:45
dudeis there something wrong with my vcard?04:46
DaSkreechdude: No Your drivers04:46
DaSkreechYou need to install some things04:46
DaSkreech!nvidia04:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:46
DaSkreechThere you go :)04:46
DaSkreechAnyone on edgy?04:46
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Dr_willisNot yet..04:47
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Dr_willisi plan on waiting a few weekes after its released. :)04:47
v3ctoredgy xubuntu though04:47
puttlickMomal: Shouldn't I weite sudo konqueror?04:47
DaSkreechputtlick: Nope kdesu04:48
DaSkreech!kdesu04:48
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AxLDaSkreech: I typed kdesu kwrite ... what next ?04:48
AxLI just go back to line .04:48
DaSkreechAxL: Did you close the other window?04:48
AxLWhich window ?04:48
AxLIf kwrite : yes04:48
Momalyea use kdesu... lol only use sudo if you want trouble later if you know what your doing :p04:48
DaSkreechAxL: Ack. Well open the file make your changes and save04:48
AxLDaSkreech: I did04:49
DaSkreechAh ok then...04:49
AxLI always heve the error now :\04:49
_Shade_anyone here on edgy beta?04:49
DaSkreechI don't know what you are doing but you seemed to have a plan04:49
DaSkreech so continue executing it04:49
DaSkreech_Shade_: v3ctor is :)04:49
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_Shade_i got some problems during updates patching04:50
kokokoko!fou4s04:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fou4s - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:50
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sF|XemanthI wonder what causes my Firefox to crash in Dapper all the time04:51
DjDarkmangrep: /usr/lib/libfam.la: No such file or directory04:51
DjDarkmanwhat is this?04:51
AxLDaSkreech: I still have the error with sudo kwrite ... With "kwrite" (no sudo), the error is can not write in conf file ...04:51
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DaSkreechsF|Xemanth: run it from the command line to find out04:51
_Shade_could anyone look at this please https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/6578304:51
sF|Xemanthwhen i maximize Fx from taskbar to full size its transparent04:52
sF|Xemanthmain program window doesn't have anything inside04:52
DaSkreechAxL: again I'm not sure what you are doing and what the error is04:52
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DaSkreechAxL: and use kdesu kwrite04:52
AxLDaSkreech: what I m doing is simple : I open kwrite !04:52
AxLWith the console.04:52
DaSkreechAxL: and you get an error?04:52
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AxLDaSkreech: yes !04:53
DaSkreechWhat is the error?04:53
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MetaMorfoziSDaSkreech: so how it possible ?04:55
AxLError is : "/var/tmp/kdecache-ad" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 004:55
AxLDaSkreech:04:55
Dr_willisis 'ad' your user name?04:55
AxLyes04:55
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DaSkreechMetaMorfoziS: Oh sorry run it with the --profilemanager option and make up a profile. Then it uses a new set of settings04:56
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=== DaSkreech looks at Dr_willis. Know what that file is for?
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  its just a kde cache file04:56
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Dr_willissudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:57
Dr_willisworked fine for me here.04:57
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DaSkreechDr_willis: can it be blown away?04:57
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  i tried to have him remove it earlier.. but its COrrect..04:57
Dr_willisthat dir should NOT be owned by root.04:57
DaSkreechso... why is that an error?04:57
Dr_willisuid=0 is root.. 1000 is his user04:57
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Dr_willisDaSkreech,  no idea.. thats why i said earlier he has 'bigger' problems. :)04:57
Dr_willisI could of learned vi by this time. :)04:58
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Dr_willisYa COULD try finding that confiog file you want to edit.. and use the "edit as root' menu item04:58
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MomalCan someone tell me how to remove kopete without removing kubuntu-desktop ?04:58
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Dr_willisMomal,  just remove kubuntu-desktop - its a meta-pacakge04:58
Dr_willisor just not worry about it at all. :)04:58
DaSkreechMomal: apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop04:59
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DaSkreechIt doesn't actually do anything :)04:59
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Momaltrying to remove it completly then and then everything to do with it then reinstall.. seems it wont login to 1 of my accounts under this login and every other account it does :S04:59
DaSkreechMomal: run sudo apt-get remove kopete and I can explain it to you if you like04:59
AxLDaSkreech: do you know what this error is ?05:00
DaSkreechMomal: run this sudo apt-get purge kopete && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:00
Momalwell im still alive after that so seemed to get rid of it fine lol05:00
DaSkreechShould do what you want05:00
DaSkreechAxL: No When do you get it?05:00
AxLDaSkreech: sudo kwrite05:01
DaSkreechAnd that crashes kwrite?05:02
hyperhelp; I can't kill a process - vmware is acting up and locks somehow... I changed to root but kill -9 PID doesn't work.. any suggestiosn?05:02
AxLDaSkreech: no but it is not normal, is it ?05:02
DaSkreechIt is. it's just a notification05:03
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AxLDaSkreech: what does that mean ?05:03
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DaSkreechThat the current user of KDE is you but the application is being run by root05:04
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DaSkreechJust in case you weren't expecting that. Or you had a root console and did not want to run a KDE app as root05:04
DaSkreechAxL: Since being root means you can destroy your machine pretyt easily :)05:05
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AxLDaSkreech: and when I just type "kwrite" , a window opens and tell it is impossible to write on the config file "/config/kwriterc" ? Is it normal ?05:06
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livingdaylightMDCore: you still there?05:06
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livingdaylightping MDCore05:06
MomalI have no idea kopete is broken..... wont login to 1 msn account under this useraccount ... as soon as it grabs the contact list it just crashes05:07
DaSkreechAxL: /config ?05:07
DaSkreechYou have a /config folder?05:07
dudecan i use 3d desktop in ubuntu?05:07
dudecan i use 3d desktop in kubuntu?05:07
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DaSkreechdude: Yes05:07
AxLDaSkreech: "/home/ad/kde/share/config/kwritersc05:08
kazukisan-> I have apache working fine, im on linux(kubuntu) and i tried installing php but when i got to like http://localhost/test.php its always asking me to download the file instaid of the server running it, i can go to a console and type php test.php and it works ??05:08
DaSkreechMomal: and if you logout and log in as a new user it works fine?05:08
n5php -v on console kazukisan05:08
dudeDaSkreech: how05:08
DaSkreechAxL: sure that isn't /home/ad/.kde ?05:08
DaSkreechdude: It takes a little working :)05:08
AxLyes it is ...05:08
Momalyup or login on another user I have i can login to the account fine.. I have tried deleting ~/.kde and I reset everything back up yet still does it :S05:09
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DaSkreechdid you read the page I pointed you at?05:09
AxLDaSkreech: it is .kde ... I can not copy paste .. I m not on the linux machine to paste05:09
DaSkreechAxL: does that file exist?05:09
dudeDaSkreech: yes...but im confused05:09
DaSkreechAxL: just making sure05:09
DaSkreechAxL: Then that is strange.05:09
AxLDaSkreech: yes05:09
AxLDaSkreech: I got to go ... I ll see that later ... Thanks !05:10
DaSkreechAxL: Sure come back though :)05:10
AxL:)05:10
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dudewhat is the command to show your video card driver05:11
MomalDaSkreech: any ideas on my prob :S05:11
Dr_willisdude,  you mean what oneyou are using NOW?05:12
Dr_willischeck the xorg.conf file.05:12
dudeyes05:12
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Galathal1ondude: i like ur nick.. :)05:12
dudetnx05:13
Galathal1oni like to call everyone dude.. now its like.. automatic05:13
dude:)05:13
Galathal1on:>05:13
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papuyadavhi05:14
dudewhat is the command to show my vcard driver?05:14
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dudeit seems that im not using the right driver05:15
Dr_willis<Dr_willis> check the xorg.conf file.05:15
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Dr_willisopen it up in an editor and see what the 'driver' line says05:15
Dr_willisor use grep. :) if you  are a real man!05:16
dudeDr_Willis: how?05:16
Dr_willishow to open it up in an editor/viewer?05:16
Dr_willisBash 10105:16
DaSkreechgrep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think05:16
Dr_willisgrep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:16
Dr_willis:) upper case05:16
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dudeterminal window? sorry, first time to use linux05:17
Dr_willisof course if you never installed the nvidia or ati drivers... then your card isent using them05:17
ricanelitehow do i install Flash-Player in terminal?05:17
Dr_willisdude,  then i am betting your card is NOT using the comercial/official  drivers05:17
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Dr_willisdude,  and what is your card?05:17
fdovingricanelite: you can't on powerpc. nothing is usable.05:17
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ricaneliteahh got you!05:18
Dr_willisPoor PPC peoples. :(05:18
dudenVidia Gforce 440 MX 128 Mb inno3d05:18
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fdovingDr_willis: poor flash users :)05:18
Dr_willisdude,  then read/follow the !nvidia guides  to install the nvidia drivers05:18
Dr_willis!Nvidia05:18
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:18
fdovingricanelite: if you really want to test the flash-stuff, you can install the package05:19
dudeya i did that but nothing happens05:19
Dr_willisdude,  then you did somthing wrong.05:19
Dr_willisyou did restart x?05:19
fdovingricanelite: libflash-mozplugin05:19
Dr_willisgrep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf   -->        Driver          "nvidia"05:19
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dudeDr_Willis: so ahould restart?05:20
dudeDr_Willis: so i should restart?05:20
Dr_willisK menu --> system --> Konsole  to get to a shell.05:20
Dr_willisdude,  you just need to restart X not the whole OS.05:20
puttlickCould I run XGL on kde desktop?05:20
Dr_willislogout to the KDM screen and then yse alt-ctrl-backspace05:20
Dr_willisputtlick,   of couse05:20
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puttlickDr_willis: Okay... because it fucks up when i should install compiz05:21
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Dr_willisputtlick,  i dont advise using eiother of the silly things...  Its useless eye candy05:21
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arejayteewhere do i change my parting message in konversation?05:22
papuyadavbasanti tum kahan ho ?05:23
puttlickDoesn't the compiz apt exist on kubuntu?05:23
fildocan anyone assist me with an ipw2100 wifi issue05:23
nebite la envio por ficheor o te la pego aqui05:23
Dr_willis!xgl05:23
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:23
papuyadavhello my friends05:23
Dr_willisbbl05:23
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dudeDr_Willis: ok here's the error : Server not found after waiting 5 seconds. Could not find server.05:24
Momalputtlick: compiz is old one to use now is beryl #beryl05:24
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papuyadavi trying to access vncserver but only thing i am getting is blank screen05:24
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papuyadav:~/.vnc$ cat xstartup05:25
Sh4d0xhi there05:25
papuyadav#!/bin/sh05:25
papuyadav# Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:05:25
papuyadav unset SESSION_MANAGER05:25
papuyadav exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc05:25
papuyadav[ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ]  && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup05:25
Sh4d0xcan someone help me out with a tiny problem?05:25
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papuyadav[ -r $HOME/.Xresources ]  && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources05:25
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fdovingpapuyadav: please use a pastebin.05:25
fdoving!pastebin05:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:25
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Sh4d0xa friend of mine has a common desktop, connect to wifi by using a wireless usb stick ... kubuntu doesn't recognize this usb wifi thing, what is he supposed to do?05:27
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dudehow do i activate 3d desktop05:28
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Sh4d0xdude: read faq at the homepage05:28
dudesite?05:28
Sh4d0xdude: or read the manual it's easy to setup .. bind the key, config the file and ready05:28
Sh4d0xdude: website05:28
Sh4d0xdude: http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/05:29
dudetnx05:29
Sh4d0xdude: yw =)05:29
Skrot-How can I access katapults settings?05:30
trappistSkrot-: right-click the systray icon05:30
Skrot-trappist: Haven't got it in tray..05:30
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Sh4d0xSkrot-: look through the settings =)05:31
Skrot-Sh4d0x: In kcontrol?05:32
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rick_whats going on with aptitude updates05:32
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rick_getting allot of 404 errors05:32
Sh4d0xhas any of you freaky kubuntu users some experience with wifi usb tools? =)05:33
Sh4d0xSkrot-: hold on05:33
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Vuenwhat's up #kubuntu. i just turned on "Use my KDE fonts in GTK applications", which gets rid of the huge goofy fonts in most non-kde programs.05:33
Vuenmy question is, why on earth isn't this on by default?05:34
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Sh4d0xSkrot-: To configure katapult hit control+c (you change the appearance, shortcuts etc.).05:34
ktosiahello05:34
ktosiaI just installed Kubuntu 6.0605:34
Sh4d0xlove my ubuntu =P05:34
trappistSh4d0x: good stuff.  I didn't know about that.05:34
ktosiaapt-get install mc reports that there is no such package.... how to fix?05:35
trappistktosia: add the universe repository05:35
trappist!info mc05:35
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB05:35
rick_there a problem doing aptitude updates today...05:35
Sh4d0xktosia: try your resources05:35
ktosiahow exacly to do it?05:35
trappistrick_: us.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be jacked05:35
ktosiawht to add to souerces.list05:35
trappist!universe > ktosia05:35
ktosiaor how to edit in synaptic05:35
rick_jacked ??? you mean hacked05:35
Sh4d0xktosia: sudo gedit etc/apt/sources.list05:35
Hawkwindrick_: Best to remove the us. part05:36
Sh4d0xktosia: add multiverse05:36
rick_great removing05:36
Hawkwindrick_: You can use just archive.ubuntu.com or pick a different mirror05:36
dudeoh god...it seems that i have to do lots of things to enjoy 3ddesktop05:36
trappistrick_: by jacked I just mean misbehaving05:36
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Sh4d0xdude: no it's easy05:36
rick_oh05:36
livingdaylight!paste05:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:36
dudeas a newbie, i am confined05:36
rick_have the us. in there for english related items05:37
Sh4d0xdude: what makes it so hard for you? i'll guide you05:37
dudeSh4dOx: can u help me05:37
trappistdude: as a many-year veteran, I found it difficult too.  how hard it is depends a lot on your setup.05:37
dudeoh thank you05:37
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Sh4d0xi know shit about kubuntu (i'm using ubuntu... just came by to ask a queston for a friend of mine) .. but i'll try to help you05:37
dudeSh4dOx: ok05:38
trappistI guess I had so much trouble because compiz-kde just plain didn't work05:38
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dudeSh4dOx: ok, so what is the first step?05:38
Sh4d0xi'm using 3d desktop myself, it's fine, altough I don't use it that much ... some eye candy :D05:38
trappistSh4d0x: language please05:38
Sh4d0xtrappist: language?05:38
fdoving!language05:38
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:38
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Sh4d0xtrappist: ow you mean s**t  =D05:39
rick_is there a irc channel just for KDE or what is the best channel for KDE05:39
HawkwindI want to give compiz/xgl a try, but I've seen so many users wreck their system trying to get it to work, that scares me05:39
Hawkwindrick_: #KDE05:39
rick_great tks05:39
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Sh4d0xdude: if you get stuck tell me =)05:39
dudeSh4dOx: ok, so what is the first step?05:39
ktosiado I need anything besides   main restricted multiverse universe    to havbe mplayer win32codecs etc?05:40
Sh4d0xget the package and install it05:40
Sh4d0xsudo apt-get install 3ddesk05:40
dudei did05:40
gnomefreakktosia: no05:40
Hawkwindktosia: Not really, no05:40
Sh4d0xmake sure your graphic card is installed fine05:40
Sh4d0xthen do the key bind thing05:40
Sh4d0xor05:41
Sh4d0xtyp in your command "3ddesk"05:41
dudeSh4dOx: ok here's the error : Server not found after waiting 5 seconds. Could not find server.05:41
Sh4d0xdude: have you changed your repositories?05:41
Sh4d0xit's a multiverse package05:41
dudeSh4dOx: how?05:41
VuenHawkwind, it won't wreck your system.05:42
VuenHawkwind, whatever changes you make, you can reverse them.05:42
Vuentrust me, it's totally worth it; I'm using Beryl now, and it's amazing.05:42
HawkwindVuen: I know.  I just don't really have the time to have the system break and then go back and fix it at the moment.  I'd rather wait when I really have the time05:42
Sh4d0xdude: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:42
HawkwindVuen: You using beryl on Dapper or Edgy ?05:42
Vuenedgy05:43
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Vuenbut i had it working on dapper before i upgraded05:43
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Vueni used it on dapper for a month or so, then i upgraded and changed from xgl to nvidia-beta05:43
dudeSh4dOx: (gedit:7272): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib05:43
gnomefreakSh4d0x: gksudo when using gedit and this is kde most may not have gedit installed05:43
dudeSh4dOx: (gedit:7272): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers05:43
gnomefreakdude: do you have gnome installed?05:44
Sh4d0xso you install gedit05:44
Sh4d0xor use vim05:44
HawkwindVuen: I've got the nvidia-beta(9625) drivers installed here currently05:44
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HawkwindVuen: Is there a certain how-to you recommend to follow that is for sure to work ?05:44
gnomefreakSh4d0x: whats wrong with kedit or kate or any number of them05:44
Sh4d0xgksudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list05:44
gnomefreaknano05:44
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dudeKDE05:44
Hawkwindkdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list05:44
Hawkwinddude: ^^^^^^^^^05:44
HawkwindYou should have kwrite installed already since you're using Kubuntu and not Ubuntu05:45
Sh4d0xgnomefreak: sry i'm ubuntu user ;)  ... just came by to ask a question and willing to help this poor guy =)05:45
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dudeX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15405:46
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Hawkwinddude: You can ignore that X error05:46
dudek05:46
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gnomefreakdude: it should still open05:46
dudeyes05:46
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Hawkwinddude: However, when you get done doing what you're doing, I'll give you a link to fix the bad device errors05:46
dancemasterhello05:46
gnomefreakHawkwind: there is one?05:46
HawkwindHello :)05:46
dudeok, whats the nxt step?05:47
Hawkwind!baddevice > gnomefreak05:47
gnomefreakty ;)05:47
Hawkwindgnomefreak: It's on my forums there :)05:47
gnomefreakah05:47
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: However, we need to lobby to get the wacom stuff removed from xorg.conf by default for Edgy+105:47
dudethe soirces list is open05:47
Sh4d0xdude: you should ad the multiverse sources05:47
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dude:( how05:48
Sh4d0xusing easy sources is the easiest way05:48
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Since xorg.conf is created by installed software, wacom shouldn't be there for those of us who don't have wacom at all.  It's quite annoying05:48
dancemasterwhen i connect 2 my vnc server i get a blank screen :-(05:48
qkrI can't choose "manage repositories" in Adept...it is gray...can anyone help?05:48
gnomefreakHawkwind: very true05:48
Sh4d0xdude: i'll link you05:48
dudeok05:48
dudetnx05:48
qkrdude: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:48
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Who/Where should I bring this up....I'd really like to make this happen05:49
Hawkwindqkr: On edgy ?05:49
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qkryep05:49
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dancemasterxstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/93705:49
gnomefreakTB meeting i would think or #ubuntu-devel05:49
Hawkwindqkr: Known issue, edit the file manually05:49
qkrwhat file is that?05:49
dancemasterwhen i connect 2 my vnc server i get a blank screen :-(05:49
Hawkwindqkr: /etc/apt/sources.list05:49
dancemasterqrk:vnc server xstartup file05:50
Momalwhen i login to kopete with msn kopete crashes only on 1 msn account on this user login :S05:50
Hawkwinddancemaster: He's talking to me05:50
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dancemasterpl in the name of salsa pl someone pl help me05:51
Sh4d0xdude: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:51
Sh4d0xafter it05:51
Sh4d0xreplace ubuntu by kubuntu ... should work05:51
Hawkwinddancemaster: Patience.  When someone knows and can help, chances are they will05:51
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Sh4d0xgnomefreak: correct me if i'm wrong :)05:52
gnomefreakkubuntu-desktop doesnt depend on kedit :(05:52
gnomefreakSh4d0x: ubuntu is the repo05:52
gnomefreakfor all05:52
dancemasterHawkwind: Thanks for words of wisdom , i wait patiently like a swan in the pond of chaos05:52
Sh4d0xdude: so use the link i gave you and replace the sources in your file by the one you generated05:53
dudeSh4dOx: ok, its done05:53
Sh4d0xdude: yet try to install the package again05:53
dudeSh4dOx: 3ddesktop?05:54
Sh4d0xgnomefreak: do you know anything about wifi by using a usb stick to connect to a router?05:54
Sh4d0xdude: gksudo apt-get install 3ddesktop05:54
dudek hold on05:54
Sh4d0xi will =)05:54
gnomefreakapt-get is text dont use gksudo with it05:55
dudeok05:55
dudeinstalled05:55
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gnomefreakand no im not a wifi guy05:55
Sh4d0xdude: yet type in your terminale "3ddesk" of "3ddesktop" it should run it ... by that I can give you a small preview ;)05:55
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Flosofthey05:56
Flosofthow can I burn an .IMA file?05:56
fdovingSh4d0x: what wifi card?05:56
Flosoftdoes K3B support that?05:56
Sh4d0xit will tough only work if your graphic card is correct installed05:56
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dudeSh4dOx: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".05:56
Sh4d0xfdoving: it's not a card, it's a us robotics wifi router ... my friend is trying to connect to it by using a usb stick ... his kubuntu doesn't recognize the usb so he can't connect to his router05:57
Sh4d0xdude: your graphic is not installed properly05:57
fdovingSh4d0x: what usb stick? trying to connect to it with a usb-cable?05:57
dude:(05:58
Sh4d0xdude: nvidia or ati?05:58
dudenvidia05:58
Sh4d0xdude:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:59
Sh4d0xfdoving: it's a us robotics "set" router + usb connection stick05:59
fdovingSh4d0x: what's the name and number of the stick?06:00
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Sh4d0xfdoving: hold on, i call him by phone (he has no internet connection because of his wifi problem)06:01
Sh4d0xfdoving: us robotics #546106:02
Sh4d0xsorry he is mistaking06:02
Sh4d0x#542106:02
Sh4d0xfdoving: wireless MAXg USB adapter model 542106:03
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DaSkreechSkrot-: Alt+Space then Ctrl+C06:03
ricanelitecan you run OS X on Ubuntu Linux06:03
Sh4d0xricanelite: yes06:03
Sh4d0xricanelite: use vmware06:03
ricanelitewhat type of software you need?06:04
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Sh4d0xit creates a virtual partion on which you can install os X06:04
ricanelitewhere can I get vmware?06:04
Sh4d0xgoogle06:04
ricaneliteis it hard to do?06:04
ricanelitedo you have a mac?06:05
Sh4d0xhttp://shadox.ifastnet.com/printscreens06:05
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Sh4d0xno i don't have a mac06:05
Sh4d0xi'm on ubuntu06:05
ricanelitewow i love your desktop06:06
Sh4d0xthnx06:06
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Sh4d0xvmware ain't hard to get06:06
Sh4d0xi'll link you, hold on06:06
Hawkwindvmware.com06:06
fdovingSh4d0x: that's the router, right, what's the name of the stick?06:06
Hawkwindricanelite: ^^^06:06
Sh4d0xHawkwind: thnx for your assist ^^06:07
Hawkwindricanelite: You can also install vmware-player by doing sudo apt-get install vmware-player06:07
Sh4d0xfdoving: hold on, i'll call again06:07
ricanelitewhats that?06:07
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Sh4d0xfdoving: that was the name fot he stick, the number of the router is 546106:08
fdovingSh4d0x: USR 5421 ?06:08
Sh4d0xfdoving: yes06:08
fdovinghttp://www.usr.com/products/networking/wireless-product.asp?sku=USR542106:08
fdovingis it this?06:08
Sh4d0xfdoving: yes06:08
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Sh4d0xthat's it, i couldn't get it to work, his kubuntu won't recognize the usb tool, i did looked for a driver ... didn't find anything :(06:09
Sh4d0xricanelite: that's the vmware-player, the name of the package you  need06:09
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fdovingSh4d0x: i think he must use ndiswrapper06:10
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Sh4d0xfdoving: yeah, i was thinking about that too06:10
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ricaneliteokay and that will allow me to run os x on my Ubuntu Linux machine?06:10
Sh4d0xfdoving: or using wine?06:10
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Sh4d0xricanelite: yes06:11
DaSkreechMomal: can you run kopete from the command line and see if it throws an error htere?06:11
Sh4d0xit let's you create a virtual partition06:11
fdovingricanelite: mol06:11
Sh4d0xon which you can install os X06:11
Momali don't think it does anymore but i'll get you all the output it gives :)06:11
fdovingricanelite: search for and install the 'mol' package.06:11
fdovingricanelite: it'll let you boot the macosx installation.06:11
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Sh4d0x'mol' is server + player, right?06:12
dancemasterwhen i connect 2 my vnc server i get a blank screen :-(06:12
fdovingmol is a program.06:12
MomalOMFG06:12
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Momalit just loged in and work06:12
ricanelitei did'nt find it Adept Manager06:12
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Momaland i got this weird message from yahoo about networks joing... seems like microsoft was screwing me up06:12
Sh4d0xow, k =D ... i'm using vmware for my windows, so i can photoshop in ubuntu =D06:12
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fdovingricanelite: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto06:13
dancemasterpl in the name of samba pl someone pl help me06:13
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gnomefreakHawkwind: it doesnt work06:13
ricanelitethanl you fdoving you might be getting annoyed by me06:13
ricanelitelol06:13
Hawkwindgnomefreak: What doesn't work ?06:13
fdovingricanelite: not at all. :)06:14
DaSkreechdancemaster: And there is no error?06:14
Sh4d0xricanelite: there are a lot of good tutorials discribing how to use vmware (and how to install it)06:14
DaSkreechIt just ocnnects?06:14
gnomefreakHawkwind: commenting out things to diable wacom06:14
dude_Sh4dOx: still errors06:14
dancemasteri gett empty screen06:14
dancemasterxstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/93706:14
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Define doesn't work if you could....  As in X doesn't start, you still get the errors ?06:14
Hawkwindgnomefreak: I've commented the stuff out in my xorg.conf and I no longer get those errors06:15
gnomefreakX doesnt start unidentified identifier06:15
gnomefreak:)06:15
Sh4d0xdude_: o.O06:15
gnomefreaki comment them out i dont get X06:15
Hawkwindgnomefreak: You didn't use that exact xorg.conf on the how-to did you ?06:15
DaSkreechSh4d0x: where did you get that desktop frrom06:15
Sh4d0xdude_: what are your outputs?06:15
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gnomefreakHawkwind: Hawkwind no06:15
rick_here a question: can one do a upgrade, while have some apps running ? or is it better to have nothing running,(for the most part).06:15
dude_Sh4dOx: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".06:15
gnomefreakHawkwind: my xorg.config is all kinds of customized06:15
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Hmmm, strange stuff.06:15
DaSkreechdancemaster: And the server and client are using hte same protocols?06:15
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Customized in what ways ?06:16
Sh4d0xDaSkreech: i'm a designer =) you might find one or more of my works on devianart06:16
dude_Sh4dOx: Xlib: i already installed driver06:16
dancemasterDaSkreech: yes vnc06:16
Sh4d0xdude_: did you installed the right one?06:16
gnomefreakHawkwind: i have adde da bunch of things to get the nivida beta drivers to work06:16
fdovingdancemaster: you want to start kde?06:16
dancemasterVncviewer and Vnc server06:16
dancemasterfdoving: yes06:16
dancemasterxstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/93706:16
Sh4d0xcuz there is a big difference between the cards and the glx packages which need to be installed06:16
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Really ?  I'm using the nvidia beta drivers without having to touch my xorg.conf.  I also use twinview06:17
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livingdaylight!paste06:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:17
DaSkreechSh4d0x: Ha ha My friend is asking if the image is open source :)06:17
yetiin system settings, when i go into administrator mode, the controls will show up but stay gray, sometimes they will become available after some secondes, but with the file sharing panel, it stays gray06:17
dude_Sh4dOx: i think so06:17
fdovingdancemaster: ok, just remove the two last lines, and add 'exec startkde' as the final line06:17
Sh4d0xDaSkreech: no it's not open source ... you want it?06:17
fdovingdancemaster: i think that should work.06:17
yeti-> i cant edit my samba configuration. what do i do?06:17
DaSkreechSh4d0x: Yeah :)06:17
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Sh4d0xDaSkreech: i'll put it on my server so you can download it, hold on06:17
dude_Sh4dOx: how do u check if u installed the right driver06:18
fdovingyeti: how do you try to do it?06:18
gnomefreakHawkwind: i needed it to use beryl when it was just started06:18
hazard2with the normal installer CD is there any way to install on a machine with SLIGHTLY less than 192mb ram?06:18
gnomefreakHawkwind: i had to add things to it06:18
hazard2(192-16)?06:18
fdovinghazard2: try.06:18
hazard2I did, the installer tries to load, then mysteriously goes away.06:18
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Ahhh, so maybe it's the fact that you have beryl/xgl and all that in there.  That I'm not sure about06:18
dude_Sh4dOx: how do i check if i installed the right driver06:18
dude_Sh4dOx: how do i check if i installed the right vcard driver06:19
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: This is yet another reason I'm scared to try compiz/xgl/beryl, though I really want to06:19
gnomefreakHawkwind: i dont anymore but i keep the onfig for other reasons06:19
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yetifdoving, kmenu -> system settings -> file sharing -> click on administrator mode -> enter password -> controls will show up, including shared folders table (obv empty) but stay gray, i can't edit anything at all06:19
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hazard2sigh...06:19
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: Thought about making a backup of that xorg.conf and trying with a default one to see if it works ?06:19
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gnomefreakwell i would before you request it being disabled06:20
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Sh4d0xDaSkreech: sry, they are on my ext3 partition, can't read that partion yet, i'll put it online as soon as possible06:20
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dude_Sh4dOx: how do i check if i installed the right vcard driver06:20
DaSkreechSh4d0x: Sure :)06:20
hazard2even downloading at 700k/sec this is taking annoyingly long.06:20
Sh4d0xdude_: have you done exactly what it says in the wiki?06:21
Hawkwindgnomefreak: The only change(s) I've made to my xorg.conf is the fact that I'm using nvidia and twinview.  Other than that, I have a pretty default xorg.conf file06:21
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DaSkreechSh4d0x: reminds me of a UT2k4 level I downloaed that allowed you to play in a zelda the Wind wakrer world06:21
Sh4d0xDaSkreech: http://shadox.ifastnet.com/printscreens    i placed a simular online .. check ik out06:21
dancemasteri am still blank grey screen06:21
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hazard2that's tough luck...06:21
fdovingyeti: try to run it with Kmenu -> run command -> type: 'kdesu kcmshell fileshare'06:21
dancemasteri am still getting blank grey screen06:22
Sh4d0xDaSkreech: i made it based on "ireland" the windows wallpaper, created it with illustrator06:22
fdovingdancemaster: are you trying to share your current desktop, or make new sessions for each vnc connection?06:22
hazard2dancemaster: trying to do WHAT exactyl?06:22
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DaSkreechIt's nice :)06:22
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Sh4d0xDaSkreech: hold on, i'll boot in ubuntu brb06:22
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dancemasteron vncviewer (after restarting or -kill :1 )06:22
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DaSkreech!schedule06:23
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule06:23
dude_what is linux-restricted-modules06:23
hazard2it seems that kubuntu IS installing running on this machine without enough ram...06:23
hazard2but window resizing takes forever &etc06:23
DaSkreechdude_: A set of packages that shouldn't be allowed but Ubuntu supports tehm anyway06:24
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dancemasterhttp://paste-bin.com/93806:25
yetifdoving, same problem06:25
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dancemasterxstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/93806:25
dancemasternew xstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/93806:25
fdovingyeti: ok, try to run it from konsole,(kmenu -> system -> konsole) 'sudo kcmshell fileshare'06:26
yetifdoving, same problem06:26
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fdovingyeti: is samba installed and running?06:27
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Sh4d01back06:28
fdovingyeti: does /etc/samba/smb.conf exist?06:28
yetifdoving, yeah... well, i could still manually edit smb.conf06:28
dancemasterpl in the name of mother marry  pl someone pl help me06:28
yetilet's try some magic ;) i'll just reboot, does wonders sometimes06:29
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Sh4d01DaSkreech: it's online :)06:29
MomalDaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26611/ <-- thats the console output and backtrace from kde crash handler06:29
DaSkreechMomal: Thought it worked now?06:30
Momalit did then I quit and tried to start up and again and it crashed06:30
Momallol06:30
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ktosiahow can I enable network sharing?06:30
ktosiaso that my PC can work as gate for laptop, I have two eth cards06:31
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Sh4d01DaSkreech: http://shadox.ifastnet.com/printscreens   you can find it in there :) good luck with it06:31
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dancemasterwhen i connect 2 my vnc server i get a blank screen :-(06:32
DaSkreechMomal: off the top of my head I'm assuming that one of your friends ahs a weird wacked out freak @$$ buddy name so when your list loads and SCIM tried to handle it ti panics06:32
dancemasterxstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/93706:32
DaSkreechSh4 thanks06:32
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Momaloo.. i have scim loaded on my other users as well and it logs into the account on them :S06:32
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DaSkreechMomal: and they have the same buddy list?06:33
Momali'll try to kill scim and see if it will run06:33
Momalyea running same account06:33
Momalwhen i tried it06:33
Momalother msn accounts are fine just not my main one :S06:33
Momalalso only happened since update to kopete 0.12.306:34
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yetifdoving, strange, it works now :)06:35
DaSkreechWanna take it up in #kopete ?06:35
AxLRe-Hi : My eth card is disable and I can not modify it via gui network setting even if I enter the admin mode :\06:35
fdovingyeti: some voodoo magic i don't understand then.06:35
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Tamshey ho06:36
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yetifdoving, well, it works, so everything's fine - but do you happen to know why /tmp is shared by default?06:36
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fdovingyeti: no idea.06:37
TamsA mate installed a Dapper on a HDD on his box and KDE won't boot on mine. How can I reconfigure it so it'd work?06:37
AxLHow to enable my eth card with a command line ?06:38
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AxLIt is disabled ... It worked before :(06:38
AxLIt is eth006:38
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arafatAxL: maybe 'sudo ifup eth0' ?06:40
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AxLarafat: command return  too few parameters06:42
AxL"too few parameters"06:42
DaSkreechsudo ifup -a06:42
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AxLDaSkreech: same :\06:43
Momalifconfig eth0 up06:43
Momalsudo ifconfig eth0 up06:43
MaKaTiGuYhelp...06:43
hazard2is the installer cd supposed to be cancer-causingly slow?06:43
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hazard2what dude?06:43
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livingdaylightHi everyone06:43
Momaldid you live O_O06:43
Momalyou been gone for ages lol!06:44
dudei did something wrong with my kubuntu06:44
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dudecrashed06:44
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dude:(06:44
hazard2who are you talking to Momal?06:44
fdovinghazard2: if you install on a machine with less memory than supported, yes.06:44
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hazard2Of course...06:44
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Momalhazard2: don't worry :p06:44
AxLMomal: command returned nothing but eth0 is still disabled :(06:44
dudehazard2: i did something wrong with my kubuntu06:44
DaSkreechhazard2: Well if you get Cancer then no we didn't intend that at all. If not then yes :)06:44
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DaSkreechsudo ifconfig -a06:45
hazard2Hrm....06:45
MomalAxL: thats really weird more weirder then my kopete just crashing.. that command works for me all the time :S06:45
DaSkreechAnd pastebin the results06:45
arafatAxL: what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?06:45
DaSkreechMomal: You can have conflicts with it06:45
dudehazard2: how do i revert the previous setting of kubuntu06:46
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puttlickwhy does it says wrong password when im using su, aint it my root password i should use?06:46
xavierhi. how can  i use kppp over ethernet? instead of modem .. using eth0 ?06:46
fdoving!rootsudo06:46
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:46
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dudepls help06:47
dudemy kubuntu is busted06:47
puttlickso it should be sudo make install?06:47
DaSkreechdude: normally the file you edited leaves a copy of itself behind06:47
xavieris there no PPPOE client for kubuntu?06:47
dudei installed the wrong driver06:47
Dufresn3salve raga. Qualche buon samaritano che mi aiuti? Ho lasciato 5 giga di spazio sull'hd per installare windows (devo installarlo per forza per utilizzare programmi tecnici). Come devo procedere?06:47
AxLarafat: I have map eth0 in the mapping hotplug ... normal ?06:48
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roberI can solve the 802.1x. I want to  use the xsupplicant, but failed06:49
AxLarafat: : what must be the config to make the eth0 load on start up ?06:49
felixjethow to rename files with console?06:49
dudeDaSkreech: do you know how to fix the problem? like system restore06:49
DaSkreechdude: soooo where are you now?06:49
dudeXp06:49
DaSkreechCLI?06:49
DaSkreechHa ha :)06:49
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Xal_Hi06:49
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dudei cant use my kubuntu06:49
DaSkreechWhat does it do?06:49
arafatAxL: mine looks like: auto eth1 (newline) iface eth1 inet dhcp06:49
denisbrIs possible install the ubuntu-desktop in the Kubuntu using the CD-ROM ?06:49
livingdaylight!paste06:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:50
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hazard2FINALLY a 256mb module06:50
XalIs the next linux kernel likely to include jmicron IDE drivers?06:50
dudefirst experience in linux, first crash06:50
Xaldenisbr, yes06:50
XalYou'd need to install Gnome.06:50
denisbrXal How?06:50
XalIts not included on the CD. You'd have to use synaptics or apt to download the gnome window manager.06:51
hazard2After testing more than a dozen ram chips from the 'unlabled' pile, I found a working 256...now I should be (better) off.06:51
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dudehazard2: can i system restor kubuntu?(if thats the term)06:51
Xallol06:51
denisbrXal but, I give the CD of the Ubuntu Dapper06:51
hazard2Umm...no06:52
hazard2but you could boot off a cd and fix whatever you broke06:52
hazard2(usually)06:52
XalThen just install it from there.06:52
Momalfunnies thing I have heard: can i system restor kubuntu?(if thats the term) | no offence06:52
AxLarafat: I did not have the auto .. I had it before :\ I added it. Is there a way to lauch the eth0 right now with a command line ?06:52
dudehazard2: install the whole OS?06:52
xavierhey when i open a deb package (opera.deb) Ark opens up and yells "the utility is not in your PATH" help!06:52
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|GaiJin|is there an easy way to set up twinview, so that I can use one monitor as normal, whyile using one to play something in cedega??06:52
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arafatAxL: try sudo ifup -a again06:52
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dudehazard2: install the whole OS?06:53
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AxLarafat: "few parameters" :\ again .. Moreover : "colud not read interfaces file"06:53
dudei installed the wrong video card driver06:54
arafatAxL: please paste your interfaces file in pastebin!06:54
Xal2Is the next linux kernel likely to include jmicron IDE drivers? The new Core2Duo boards are somewhat incompatible with Linux.06:54
DaSkreechdude: You can if you like or you can ix it06:54
DaSkreech your choice06:54
DaSkreechdude: fix it :)06:55
DaSkreechSorry06:55
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AxLarafat: well I got to put it on my usb device .. I must mount it ...06:55
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uphillhi06:56
dudeDaSkreech: how?06:56
AxLarafat: is this normal that a error occurs when I mount it ? "medi/sd" does not exist ... ?06:56
AxLsda106:56
DaSkreechdude: What does it do when you boot into kubuntu?06:56
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uphilli have a sis soundcard onboard and the master doesent do enything, i controll the master over the PCM channel and i want to change it, how?06:56
AxLarafat: I mean must I create a dir for all external device ?06:57
dudeDaSkreech: it brings me to plain txt login06:57
arafatAxL: the target directory has to exist,06:57
DaSkreechRight so login :)06:57
DaSkreechand run irssi06:57
dudeirssi?06:57
Momalprobly no X/kde installed or starting up06:57
DaSkreechit's irc from the command line06:57
DaSkreech hold on06:57
arafatAxL: yeah, create a dir in media and mount your stick into that dir06:57
DaSkreech Does anyone know how to login to a server/chan fomr the command line?06:58
AxLIt exists in fact .. but I can not see it in media:/06:58
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Dr_willisDaSkreech,  in irssi?06:58
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AxLIs this could be due to driver ?06:59
arafatAxL: what does your mount command look like?06:59
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AxLarafat: I just plugged my device06:59
denisbrI add in the sources.list files the CDrom of the Ubuntu Dapper, and executed the apt-get update command, but, the ubuntu-desktop package not is show in the apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop, Anybody help me ?06:59
slow-motionhallo06:59
dudeDr_willis: because of that 3ddesktop installation, my kubuntu crashed06:59
DaSkreechDr_willis: Yes but from the command line06:59
arafatAxL: err... and nothing happened?06:59
Dr_willisdude,   you are refering to XGL/compwiz?07:00
dudeDr_willis: hehehe first experince07:00
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  try irssi --help07:00
DaSkreechso irssi --server irc.freenode.net  --chan #kubuntu or something like that07:00
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  yep07:00
dudeDr_willis: i installed the wrong vcard driver07:00
|GaiJin|is there a tool for setting up dual screens in X?? or do we only have the writing way??07:00
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Dr_willisor make a  irssi config file07:00
AxLarafat: yes error happens : konqueror : "media:/sda1" does not exist07:00
AxLarafat: couls this be a driver problem ?07:01
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dudeDr_willis: is there a way to system restore kubuntu?07:01
DaSkreechDr_willis: so no chan option?07:01
arafatAxL: hmm... try to mount it manually: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/<some_directory>07:02
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DaSkreechdude: Ok reboot into the text login and run irssi -c irc.freenode.net07:02
arafatAxL: and.. is it recognized by your system? what does dmesg say?07:02
DaSkreechwhen it comes up type /nick dude07:02
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  i recall one... time to rtfm. :P i dont use irssi much at all07:02
DaSkreechand then /join #kubuntu07:02
DaSkreechDr_willis: It's almost as  nice as Konversation from what I've seen07:03
Dr_willisill stick with xchat 4.207:03
DaSkreechdude: and we can help you from there :)07:03
dudeok, tnx07:03
DaSkreechDr_willis: I know you will :)07:03
DaSkreechdude: write those down if you need to07:03
Dr_willisdude,  what video card do you have.. and what did you install?07:03
AxLarafat: message is ""media:/ sda1" does not exist"07:03
dudenvidia07:04
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dudei'll never install 3ddesktop again07:04
AxLarafat: I tried to moiunt via command line but error : already mount :_07:04
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DaSkreechdude: It's a noble attempt :)07:05
arafatAxL: hmm, what does 'df' say? if it's mounted it should tell you the mounting point...07:05
DaSkreechdude: First advice is don't be afraid to fail07:05
AxLarafat: I can see it .07:06
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DaSkreechDr_willis: Course the evil thing is I have to go now :)07:06
DaSkreechDr_willis: can You make sure he doesn't freak when he get s back07:06
DaSkreechOh and teach him about a /home partition :)07:07
AxLarafat: I can see it with the command but Can not see it in the GUI :\07:07
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AxLarafat: and mounting point is /media/sda1 ...07:07
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arafatAxL: but you can change to that dir in command line, right?07:08
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AxLarafat: sorry I don't understand what you mean ..07:08
AxLChange what ?07:08
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Dr_willisdude  you installed WHAT exactly? the package name 3ddesktop ?07:08
arafatAxL: well, 'cd /media/sda1'07:09
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DaSkreechDr_willis: He's rebooting But it's the video card driver that broke07:09
DaSkreechDr_willis: You can ask him again :)07:09
Dr_willisso wtf is he going on about 3ddesktop then? :P07:09
dudenice window :)07:09
DaSkreechdude: I know aint it?07:09
AxLarafat: mmmh .. yes ... i got it !! Right ! But why not in the konqueror ?07:09
Dr_willisthats just a ugly app-switcher. :P07:09
dudeya, i miss my kubuntu07:10
DaSkreechDr_willis: desktop switcher to be truthful07:10
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  yea  i think it needs to be removed from the repos. :P its a PITA07:10
dudeactually, im beginning to hate Xp07:10
Dr_willisbut that souldent of messed wth anything.07:10
dude:)07:10
DaSkreechdude: Ok two things. I goot a go but you can switch to a New text login with Alt+Ctrl+F207:10
arafatAxL: no idea.... but you could just put '/media/sda1' in the URL field in konqueror...07:10
DaSkreechDr_willis: Mail the maintainer07:10
arafatAxL: so you can use GUI07:10
DaSkreechDude: you should be able to come back here with Alt+Ctrl+F107:11
DaSkreechdude: play with the alt+Ctrl+F<N> and then come back here07:11
AxLarafat: ok .. I have it on my device : question : Should I unmount it before unplug it ?07:12
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  its the program itself..  that is the issue.. and the fact its like TOP on the package lists so every beginner sees it.. installs it.. then dont bother reading how to actally use it. :)07:12
arafatAxL: yeah, that's always a good idea:-)07:12
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dudeok07:12
DaSkreechDr_willis: Yeah I Know I was going to do it myself :)07:12
DaSkreechDude: tried it?07:12
AxLarafat: ok .. but I don't know the command line07:12
dudewhat should i do now07:12
AxLCan you give it to me please ?07:12
arafatAxL: sudo umount /media/sda107:12
AxLThought it was unmount ...07:12
AxLAh ok07:12
Dr_willisthere is no N in umount. :)07:13
Dr_willisdont ask me why...07:13
AxLok07:13
DaSkreechAlright you can leave this window up and login on Alt+Ctrl+F2 so you can run the commands that you are given07:13
AxL:)07:13
arafat:-)07:13
dudeok07:13
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dudei am logged in07:13
DaSkreechI gotta go but hopefully Dr_willis and others can help you get back into your GUI07:13
Dr_willisi go to work in like 20 min07:13
dudeok, tnx Dakreech07:13
DaSkreechFirst thing is that the config file you changed should havea backup file so ask how to switch back to that one07:14
dudeoh sorry, no s07:14
dude:)07:14
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DaSkreechDr_willis: no problem elict help from now like I did :)07:14
DaSkreechThat's the great part about community :)07:14
dudeya there is, but permisiion denied07:14
Dr_willisuse sudo07:14
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DaSkreech and dude Don't be afraid to fail :)07:14
felixjethow to rename ethernet interfaces ? my eth1 must be on eth007:15
DaSkreechBut I agree 3ddesk is not the first package you want to play with07:15
dude:)07:15
DaSkreechfelixjet: check /etc/network/interfaces07:15
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dudetraumatic experience07:15
Dr_willis3ddesk shouldent of affected anything. :)07:15
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Dr_willisnow the nvidia driver install.. that can affect things07:15
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DaSkreechI'm sure it didn't and once he's done he'll have it working07:15
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DaSkreechBut it's still something you won't use in a wekk for al lthe work you put into it07:16
felixjetthx DaSkreech07:16
bbthow do i get rid of the ghost lock file for adept?07:16
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dudeok, i use sudo07:16
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dudeand ask for the password07:16
felixjetDaSkreech:  i replace eth1 for eth0 and reboot system?07:16
dudeand back to the command line07:16
Dr_willisim not even sure what we are doing.. restoring the xorg.config file?07:17
dudeyes07:17
dudei did that07:17
DaSkreechfelixjet: or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart your choice07:17
KDEfanboy!adept crash fix07:17
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'07:17
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AxLhttp://pastebin.ca/201155 arafat : here the interfaces file07:17
Dr_willisdude,  did what exactly?07:17
Dr_williscd /etc/X1107:17
bbtactually let me rephrase where is the lock file for adept??07:17
dudeyes07:17
Dr_willissudo cp xorg.conf.WHATEVER xorg.conf07:17
dudeyes07:18
dudebut nothing happens07:18
Dr_willisthen you 'should' be back to your original xorg.conf file..  lets check 1 thing.07:18
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Dr_willisnothing  - is vague..07:18
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Dr_willisgrep Driver xorg.conf07:18
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Dr_willis-->  Driver          "nvidia"07:18
dudeok07:18
Dr_willisthats what driver the file is set to use...07:18
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Dr_willisnv - the non 3d nvidia driver... nvidia = the official nvidia driver07:19
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AxLarafat : do you see something wrong in it ?07:19
arafatAxL: there is no auto eth1.. can you add that line please and try sudo ifup -a again?07:20
AxLarafat: of course !!! ..07:20
felixjetDaSkreech:07:21
felixjet * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                          /etc/network/interfaces:18: duplicate interface07:21
felixjetifdown: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"07:21
felixjet/etc/network/interfaces:18: duplicate interface07:21
felixjetifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"07:21
felixjet:S07:21
AxLarafat : same error : few para + could not read ...07:21
felixjetmmm i go delete my eth1 first07:21
felixjetxD07:21
dudeshould i use sudo?07:22
bbthm back to what caused the adept crash. i cannot 'ok" the vmware-player install under adept??07:22
Dr_willisno need for sudo on the grep line07:22
felixjetlmao?07:23
felixjeti have my net dissabled07:23
felixjetand im still connected07:23
felixjeto_O07:23
Dr_willisdude if the Driver line shows nv. or vesa or somthing other then nvidia - your system shold bee able to start up X now.07:23
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dudeso such file07:24
arafatAxL: hmm, that's really strange.. maybe go for a reboot and then tell me the output of ifconfig. sorry, i don't have another idea right now:-(07:24
dudeno such file07:24
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felixjetDaSkreech: this dont works :(07:25
Dr_willisdude,  you are not in the /etc/X11 dir then07:25
AxLarafat: ok .. thanks .. I reboot ...07:25
Dr_willisgrep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:25
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fildoanyone here help with an ipw2100 wifi card07:26
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dudeok07:27
dudewhat shoul i type07:27
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xavierhi.. need help setting a custom refresh rate supported by my monitor in kubuntu ... namely 1280x960@68 .. kde is stuck at an eye watering 60 Hz :(07:28
dudeDr_Willis: are you there?07:28
Dr_willisyes07:28
Dr_willisgrep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:28
dudeDr_Willis: i did07:28
Dr_willisand  did it show a Driver  "nv"   line?07:29
dudenop07:29
AxLarafat: well still the same :\07:29
dudeblank07:29
Momalmight want to get him to run nvidia-xconfig ?07:29
Dr_willisyou did use "Driver" not 'driver' ?07:30
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dudeDriver07:30
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Dr_willisin any event.. if you restored the origianl config file  - it should get you to X at least.07:31
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Dr_willisyou are on the console rigt? no X running... if so .. try 'startx' and see if it works07:31
ricaneliteIm happy!!! So happy that at least I could still listen to my Podcast Segments that i use to listen to on my MAC OS X07:31
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dudeok07:31
dudeno device detected07:32
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felixjethello?07:32
felixjet>.< i need help :(07:32
felixjethow can i rename my eth1 into eth0 ?!07:33
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livingdaylight!paste07:34
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:34
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dudeno device detected07:34
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Dufresn3I have left 5 Gigabyte on my HD to install windows. I fear that if I try to install it, it will format the entire HD, isn't it?07:35
dudeDr_Willis: no device detected07:35
felixjethow can i rename my eth1 into eth0 ?!07:35
Momaldon't install windows fullstop :)07:36
Dufresn3I need...07:37
puttlickcould someone help me to find the apt for libsvg?07:37
Dufresn3I have to work on some technical programs07:37
dudeDr_Willis: are you there?07:37
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dudeDr_Willis: are you there?07:38
dude:(07:39
benkong2Can someone tell me what "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)" means when I do an apt-get dist-upgrade?07:40
benkong2It fails while processing python-gtk-1.207:40
dudeDr_Willis: are you there?07:40
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benkong2Adept locked up during a dist-upgrade now I have this problem07:40
felixjetwoa!07:40
jelbenkong2: what's the problem?  (just came in, sorry)07:41
benkong2Can someone tell me what "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)" means when I do an apt-get dist-upgrade?07:41
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benkong2that's it in a nutshell jel07:41
benkong2Adept locked up during a dist-upgrade now I have this problem07:41
felixjetwoa ! i renamed it :D07:41
dudeDr_Willis: are you there?07:41
jelbenkong2: that just means that something before that went wrong.  What other error messages do you get?07:41
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benkong2jel; Errors were encountered while processing: python-gtk-1.2 sql-editor07:42
jeland the errors for those packages?07:42
benkong2jel:  there are none07:43
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jelbenkong2: try apt-get install python-gtk-1.2 from a terminal07:43
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Dr_willishmmm07:43
Dr_willisI got 10 min then i go to work07:43
MartyoIs Kubuntu Knot 3 the same as Ubuntu Alpha 3 + KDE?07:43
benkong2jel: ok hold on07:43
jelit won't work, most likely, just give you the error message07:43
Dr_willisdoh 5 min07:43
dude:(07:43
Dr_willisdude,  now whats the issue?07:44
dudeDr_Willis: no device detected07:44
Dr_williswhat device is it refering to and whats saying this?07:44
dudenvidia07:44
LjLMartyo: no. it lacks the gnome packages, for one07:44
LjLMartyo: besides, there's the Beta out, the knot 3 is obsoleted....07:45
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benkong2jel: let me put this in a pastebin somewhere. The output is just a few lines longer than three. BRB07:45
Dr_willislets look at the !nvidia url07:45
Dr_willis!nvidia07:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:45
dudeDr_Willis: is there a fix option in the live cd ?07:46
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Dr_willisdude,  the 'fix' is to get a correct xorg.conf set up07:47
Dr_willisboot to the console and use07:47
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:47
Dr_willisand tell it to use vesa, or nv, and that SHOULD get your X back going.07:47
benkong2jel: look here http://pastebin.ca/20119307:47
Dr_willisIm not sure what you managed to install or break.. setting up the nvidia drivers on a new isntall is a 3 min job. :)07:47
benkong2Or anyone else who whishes to help. I welcome and appreciate any help.07:48
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jelbenkong2: ok, hold on07:48
benkong2jel: sure k07:48
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MartyoIs it a good idea to install Kubuntu Alpha 3 or Ubuntu Beta 1+KDE?07:50
benkong2I already did " dpkg --configure -a"  it did not fix the problem07:50
dudeDr_Willis: its ok07:50
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jelbenkong2: if you mainly want your apt system working again, you can force dpkg to remove python-gtk-1.2 and sql-editor.  If you really need that to work, you could try removing the pygtk.py file from /usr/share/python-support/gobject/ (if in fact it's in there)07:51
dudewait07:51
dudei'll try to reboot07:51
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dudeexit07:51
dude:)07:52
benkong2jel: ok I'll try removing them first07:52
Dr_willisdude that last command is the DEFACTO command to reconfigure X. :P07:52
jelbenkong2: OK.  You can maybe rename it so it doesn't clash, and move it back if it doesn't help07:52
benkong2jel: BTW any thoughts on why apt wants to remove redcloth irb etc?07:53
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toxidashi anybody help i get the following msg07:55
toxidashe following packages have unmet dependencies:07:55
toxidas  compiz-plugins: Depends: compiz-core (>= 0.0.13.54) but 0.0.13.38-0ubuntu3 is to be installed07:55
toxidas                  Depends: csm (>= 0.5) but it is not installable07:55
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denisbrHi07:56
zorglu_!info strigi07:56
ubotuPackage strigi does not exist in any distro I know07:56
toxidasit says broken packages but...? i don't know which07:57
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toxidasby the way what is csm??07:57
dudehow do i adjust my scree size?07:57
zorglu_toxidas: compiz+xgl are very experimental software. #ubuntu-xgl has been created to help people on it07:58
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toxidasok thnx07:58
domhi, uh, where do i set how web links are opened?  right now, any like like http://www.example.com, are opening in quanta+ instead of konqueror07:58
user____I need someone to help me configure my wireless card & sound07:58
domso like if i get a link in konversation or kmail, quanta+ opens up07:58
denisbrI have the Kubuntu installed and I give add the ubuntu, I add the Ubuntu Dapper CD in the sources.list file, but, the apt-cache search command is not show the ubuntu-desktop package. For tests I add the Edubuntu CD in the sources.list file and the apt-cache search edubuntu-deskop command is show .07:58
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user____anyone out there that can help me configure this wireless card & sound?08:00
dudehow do i adjust my screen size?08:00
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zorglu_!resolution08:01
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:01
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zorglu_dude: the above link is for you08:01
rick_have a major problem with cups, followed a tip on the bug pad to fix this problem and get cups working again, now cups or getting into printer setting is crashing08:01
jeremiahHi all just installed08:01
jeremiahI am loving it08:01
jeremiahsure beat windoze08:01
user____eh, anyone? wireless lan card in laptop & sound not working08:02
user____plz advise08:02
domcongrats, jeremiah08:02
jeremiahTY08:02
dom!sound08:02
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin08:02
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rick_said to remove /var/run/cups/cups.sock and replace it with 127.0.0.108:02
dom!wireless08:02
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:02
rick_cups please08:02
dombtw user__, user___, and user____ : you can change your nick by typing "/nick <some nick>"08:02
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jeremiahQuick question I have mp3's I saved from my windoze system, and I can't get caffiene to play, do I need to convert to a different format08:03
LjL!mp308:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:03
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domheh, ubotu is cool08:04
jeremiahI am checking it out now08:04
Shoiabbest Weblogging client in dapper?????????08:04
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LjL!best08:04
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.08:04
dompeople can give answers by prompting ubotu08:04
Shoiabwith unicode support08:04
LjLperhaps try "apt-cache show kicker-kblogger"08:05
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LjLwould be surprised if it didn't support unicode, but08:05
Shoiabbest Weblogging client in dapper?????????with Unicode support08:06
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LjL!repeat08:06
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience08:06
Mez!info logjam > Shoiab08:06
ubotulogjam: Client for LiveJournal-based sites. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.5.1-5 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 892 kB08:06
jeremiahAlmost three hours online and still no spyware08:07
LjLjeremiah: duh, you're on ubuntu... i'd be quite surprised if you got any spyware08:07
jeremiahThats a new record for me having just left winblows08:07
ricaneliteWill there ever be a Flash player for Ubuntu Linux on a PPC Machine?08:08
puttlickhow do I give konqueror administrative rights?08:08
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jeremiahI got a question... there is a little box thing at the bottom of apples that allows you to scroll through a list of programs and they highlight and grow.08:09
jeremiahCan I get something similar for linux?08:09
LjLricanelite: apt-cache search libflash08:09
LjLjeremiah: the dock?08:09
jeremiahyes08:09
aseigoputtlick: run it via sudo ...08:09
jeremiahMy pitful brain was not coming up with the word08:09
LjLjeremiah: try "apt-cache show kxdocker" or "apt-cache show kooldock"08:10
aseigoputtlick: sort of ugly, but it works =)08:10
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jeremiahTHANK YOU08:10
LjLjeremiah: also, you might possibly be interested in "apt-cache show kwin-baghira"08:10
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jeremiahI will look at that one as well08:11
jeremiahty08:11
LjLjeremiah: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/screenies.php08:11
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Shoiabthanks08:11
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jeremiahvn ljl  that will come in handy as well08:12
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LjLjeremiah: also, without having an actual dock of that sort (admittedly, kxdocker is a bit buggy, or was last time i tried), you can right click on your panel, then choose "add new panel" and "external taskbar". then with the right setting of options in the panel configuration, you can have it behave -- if not look -- a bit similar to the Mac dock08:13
jeremiahDoes anyone know when the latest version of KDE is due out?08:13
LjLKDE 3.5.5 just came out08:13
jeremiahI was speaking about 4?08:13
rick_any guru for cups, please08:13
LjLjeremiah: i'm not sure anybody can tell for sure08:13
sykickvisionisnt' there some other easier way to configure the lan card than to wade through all of the forums?08:13
sykickvisionwireless lan that is08:14
jeremiahok,  I was just reading up on it awhile back and it seemed to be integrating some real nice features08:14
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SkrotRiddell: around?08:15
jeremiahhave a great one everyone, I hope to never use a windows machine again.  Though I would love to have photoshop  *sigh..  Time to learn the gimp08:15
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wizardso i am guessing the 6.06.1 iso's are busted?08:18
wizardi've made 3, from different isos08:18
wizardall i get the same error08:18
wizardloading isolinux: disk error 32, ax = 4200, drive 9F08:18
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Moatazhi08:19
wizardthis so happens to be my second iso burn that turns out this way..08:19
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wizardwhy would kubuntu leave broken iso repositories up on the site?08:19
MoatazI want to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst, how can i get permission to that?08:20
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_Shade_i'm getting MD5 checksum errors during apt-get update. What can i do about that?08:21
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v3ctor_Shade_: i had those all morning also..i fixed it by switching to the uk mirror08:21
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Moatazcan't i modify it?08:22
wizardthanks for the help?08:22
KDEfanboy!patience08:22
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:22
_Shade_v3ctor can you tell me it's address then, or - better - related sources.list line08:22
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wizardubotu: im not being rude :-) i am simply flustered as to how 4 iso's on the kubuntu.org repos are.. well... flawd... and I know i wouldn't mess up 6 isos because 2 other disto isos were created just fine.08:23
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_Shade_v3ctor: can i pm you some info?08:23
KDEfanboywizard: ubotu is a bot (heh)08:24
KDEfanboywizard: what filename are you talking abaout anyway?08:24
wizardKDEfanboy: doh thats right08:24
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wizardKDEfanboy: i'm simply trying to even get kubuntu to install08:24
v3ctoruk.archive.ubuntu.com08:24
KDEfanboywizard: what's the iso filename08:24
wizardKDEfanboy: i've made 3 iso's off of kubuntu.org all of which are different sizes and corrupt08:24
wizardubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso08:24
wizardkubutnu*08:24
wizardkubuntu* blah08:24
KDEfanboywizard: did they pass the md5sum check ?08:25
wizarddidn't even run it08:25
KDEfanboydo that08:25
_Shade_v3ctor: thanks dude :)08:25
wizardim making them on a windows computer08:25
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sven-tekwie heisst das kde scanprogramm nochmal08:25
srednaKooka, sven-tek08:26
KDEfanboywizard: i've booted that iso with a successful m5dsum without that error08:26
sven-tekthanx08:26
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KDEfanboyactually..08:26
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wizardKDEfanboy: i am trying a torrent iso now08:26
wizardKDEfanboy: it looks like its the right size... so hopefully it will go wit hno error08:27
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sphereinstallerade ett tema reluna.kth och fick massa maximize windows sound osv hur tar ja bort ljuden???08:28
KDEfanboy!de08:28
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:28
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i4gethmm kde 5.5 is ready...wow08:30
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felixjet!ru08:35
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help08:35
steve_hello all08:35
steve_can i just say wow08:35
felixjetyea, say wow08:35
felixjetlol08:35
steve_lol08:35
felixjet!wow08:35
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php08:35
felixjetXD08:35
felixjeti love ubotu08:35
steve_ive been struggling  with pcbsd and openbsd08:35
felixjetbut i think im gonna get banned for using it lol08:35
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steve_tried kubuntu, and well... wow :-) it works08:35
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felixjetyea, awesome08:36
steve_:-)08:36
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felixjetsay a rare language08:37
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felixjet!jam08:38
ubotujam: Software-build tool, replacement for make. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5rel-1 (dapper), package size 106 kB, installed size 344 kB08:38
felixjet!zw08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
felixjetzimbabwe help is missing XD08:39
felixjet!ng08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
felixjetnigeria too08:39
felixjetpsss k i stop08:39
intelikeyZIMBABWE                                        ZW      ZWE     71608:39
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felixjet!zwe08:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zwe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:40
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felixjetits missing08:40
felixjeton ubotu08:40
intelikey!zw08:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:40
intelikeyseems to be08:40
felixjet!ch08:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:40
felixjetchina :] 08:41
felixjet!jp08:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:41
intelikeySWITZERLAND                                     CH      CHE     75608:41
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felixjetwhat about china?08:41
felixjetis not ch?08:41
moerfguten abend08:41
intelikeyCHINA                                           CN      CHN     15608:41
intelikeyTAIWAN, PROVINCE OF CHINA                       TW      TWN     15808:41
felixjetoh, cn08:41
felixjet!cn08:41
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk08:41
felixjetXD08:42
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Shoiabfrom where I download flash player for dapper08:42
felixjetshoiab from macromedia site08:42
intelikey!flash08:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:42
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Shoiabok08:42
felixjetboy a probar08:43
jhutchins_wkadept-updater crashed - how do I re-launch it?08:44
felixjethehe ( i was trying spell checker08:44
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felixjetthx intelikey08:44
intelikeynp08:44
jhutchins_wkah, adept_notifier.08:45
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chris_hi, where can i set the filetype associations (sry i am newb)08:47
chris_?08:49
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felixjetmmmmmm, how can i use .rar files ?08:49
intelikeychris_ right click a file and there is a menu08:49
felixjetapt-get install rar *dont works08:49
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intelikeyfelixjet install unrar08:49
intelikey!rar08:49
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free08:49
chris_thxx08:50
intelikeythere is a free version of unrar in the archives08:50
chris_has anyone tried the new kde yet?08:50
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cox377Hello all, i've added a share drive from another kubuntu machine to this one, however when connecting to it under windows it asks for a user name and pass and i  have full rights of the files, however when under kubuntu it just automaticaly opens the drive as a guest08:50
felixjetunrar is not on my lists08:51
felixjetbut my sources.list have universe and multiverse08:51
intelikeyseveral have.  and some report a few problems with printing and other prifreal things08:51
cox377felixjet: i was just about to ask about rar apps as well08:51
zorglu_!info unrar08:51
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB08:51
intelikeyIn component multiverse,08:51
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cox377intelikey: is unrar a command line based one as i've installed it ut it's not showing under programs?08:53
intelikey!unrar-free08:53
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB08:53
felixjetlmao08:53
felixjetwith apt-get i coulnt get it08:53
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felixjetbut i can with adept08:53
felixjetk, i installed unrar-nonfree08:53
intelikeycox377 yeah but ark might be able to use it as a backend08:53
zorglu_felixjet: unlikely, try again with apt-get and lets bet you find it now :)08:54
cox377intelikey: Ummm.. and in newbiee terms that means what ; )08:54
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intelikeymeans try just clicking the file in konqueror now.08:54
Martyohow do I edit a file owned by root?08:55
intelikeyi can't test for you seeing i don't have kde installed08:55
felixjetk, and now? :S08:55
intelikey!sudo > Martyo08:55
felixjet!unrar-nonfree08:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:55
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trappistMartyo: try, kdesu kate /path/to/file08:56
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trappistor, sudoedit /path/to/file08:56
chris_felixjet: you should have run apt-get update , perhaps ^^08:56
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intelikey!repos > felixjet08:58
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wizardokay08:59
wizardkubuntu installed08:59
wizardbut kde isn't installed..08:59
wizardapt-get dist-upgrade? or something?08:59
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jhutchins_wkwizard: How did you install kubuntu?09:00
felixjeti dled winrar for linux XD09:00
felixjetmore easy09:00
wizardfrom the CD09:00
trappistwizard: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:00
wizardokay09:00
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wizardim chowning my home folder first lol09:00
yumahi there!09:00
wizardthis is fresh from a suse 10.1 install09:00
yumaanyone having issues seeing this site http://ju-ni.net/ in konqueror?09:01
wizardthat REALLY REALLY pissed me off might I add09:01
yumaI can't see the main page09:01
felixjetchris and intelikey i added universe and multiverse to my sources.list years ago.. lol of course i updated it09:01
yumaI just see the header and the footer of the page09:01
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wizardlalalalala slow chown09:02
wizardlol09:02
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wizardthen again i guess chowning 41 gb isn't meant to be fast09:02
yumaanyone can confirm?09:02
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DaSkreechMartyo: hey09:03
wizardodd09:03
wizardit says kubuntu-desktop is at the latest versino09:03
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kyaneoshi09:03
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wizardah here it goes lol09:04
intelikeyyuma page loads in links09:04
wizardit wasn't booting kde cos i didn't own my own homefolder09:04
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trappistyuma: I can confirm09:04
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yumaintelikey, trappist: confirm that works or that doesn't work?09:04
intelikeywizard yep always own your home.09:04
intelikeyyuma the page loads in links09:05
trappistyuma: there's a bunch of stuff in firefox that's missing in konqueror09:05
intelikeyyuma i don't have konqueror09:05
wizardapt-get install kernel-source for source?09:05
wizardor is it already installed?09:05
yumaintelikey: ok! I didn't undertand you the first time09:05
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intelikeywizard linux-source09:05
wizardhaha09:05
yumatrappist: but I was viewing that page two days ago09:05
wizardwoops sorry09:06
wizarddoes kubuntu have the tiny-nvidia-installer by default now?09:06
felixjetRPM is easy to install ?09:06
intelikey!ati09:07
trappistyuma: *shrug* apparently they changed something09:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:07
felixjetjust convert to .run and go, right'09:07
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intelikeyfelixjet i found it so.09:07
felixjetis because i can dl a file in .tar or .rpm09:07
intelikeybut this is not an rpm distro  this is a deb distro.09:07
felixjetand i hate tars u_U09:08
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yumatrappist: I have just thought of that, haha09:08
yumatrappist: I'll ask them if they know09:08
intelikey!.deb09:08
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)09:08
intelikey!.rpm09:08
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).09:08
felixjetquite dangerous'09:08
felixjetwhy?09:08
jhutchins_wkI keep getting errors when I start apps from a console:09:09
jhutchins_wkX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16609:09
trappistfelixjet: binary compatibility, you never know where they're going to put things, etc.09:09
felixjetso better dl the .tar instead the .rpm ?09:09
trappistjhutchins_wk: you can ignore them.  it's from the support for wacom tablets in your xorg.conf.09:09
jhutchins_wkfelixjet: THe problem is that rpm's assume a different system architecture - libraries and files in different places.09:10
felixjetic jhutchins_wk09:10
jhutchins_wktrappist: Thanks, and that is SO STUPID!  Why do we force wacom support for the 0.0001% of people that have them?09:10
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jhutchins_wkIt's a problem in Gentoo too.09:11
trappistjhutchins_wk: I agree, but it doesn't break anything, it's just annoying09:11
jhutchins_wkfelixjet: Even on rpm based systems, if you install an RPM that's meant for Mandriva on a Fedora system, you can completely hose the system.09:11
wizardhmmm09:11
wizardthe nvidia guide doesn't make sense09:11
wizardi can't find the "synaptic package manager09:11
wizardis that gudie to installing nvidia drivers outdated or something?09:13
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CVirus!nvidia09:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:14
intelikeywizard no it's writen for ubuntu  not kubuntu09:14
CViruswizard: let me check09:14
intelikeynote the   K in kubuntu09:15
intelikey!synaptic09:15
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto09:15
intelikey!adept09:15
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:15
CViruswizard: you could use adept ^09:15
CVirusanyhow09:15
CVirus!universe09:16
intelikeyyou can install and use synaptic if you'd rather09:16
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:16
wizardi got an error while running nvidia-glx-cinfig enable09:16
CViruswizard: do you mind sharing it with us ?09:16
wizard"this script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe this is not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command"09:16
intelikey<wizard> i got an error while running nvidia-glx-cinfig enable <--- renders no help.  however if you would have just posted the error it might09:16
wizard"md6sum /etc/x11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf/md5sum"09:17
intelikeyso do that.09:17
intelikeywithout the "09:17
wizardi edited it myself09:17
intelikeyyes and thus it's not default  so you need to09:18
wizardand boom, working nvidia drivers09:18
intelikeymd6sum /etc/x11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf/md5sum09:18
trappistmd6sum?09:18
CVirus!09:18
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intelikeytrappist i just copied and pasted the eariler post.  but yeah. good point09:19
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wizardokay ran that09:19
wizard!mp309:19
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marthi, anyone remember if an MTA was in dapper?09:19
martin the default release, I mean.09:19
wizardi want ot use the xine engine on my amarok player with mp309:19
intelikeyso use it.09:20
CViruswizard: install amarok-xine09:20
CVirus!amarok09:20
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org09:20
intelikey!amarok-xine09:20
ubotuamarok-xine: xine engine for the amaroK audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 45 kB, installed size 172 kB09:20
jhutchins_wkHm.  Every time I start a new session, I don't have sound.09:21
CVirusjhutchins_wk: and what do you have to do so that sound works in that new session ?09:21
jhutchins_wkTrying to remember...09:22
jhutchins_wkGOing into system settings seems like it was part of it...09:22
wizardsays its already installed.09:22
jhutchins_wkOk, test sound works, but nothing from amarok...09:22
CViruswizard: launch amarok ---> menu bar ----> configure amarok09:23
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jhutchins_wkOk, I have sound.  Maybe it's just a bad stream.09:23
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wizardit says amarok-xine is installed but its not playing mp3's still09:23
wizard!mp309:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:23
CViruswizard: read this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats09:24
CViruswizard: install libxine-extracodecs .. and please read the page too09:24
wizardwhere does apt-get storei ts config files so i can allow universe and multiverse? its been a wihle09:25
jhutchins_wkYeah, dead stream.  The fake "analyser" in amarok fooled me.09:25
CVirus!universe09:25
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:25
CViruswizard: ^09:25
CViruswizard: /etc/apt/sources.list09:25
wizardthanks09:26
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CVirusno problem09:26
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justaguyIs there a kubuntu edgy forum?09:30
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justaguyoops....irc09:31
matteodo anybody know how to activate the tap-and-drag function on a laptop ?09:31
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hazard2Is there a version of VLC for kubuntu?09:31
CVirus!vlc09:32
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs09:32
CVirus!codecs09:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:32
wizardhmmm09:32
wizardhow can i change what device alasa is using as my default audio?09:32
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DaSkreechCVirus: Why don't we just edit the !nividia page to reflect Kubuntu's walkthrough?09:33
dadmultimedia system selector is a good start09:33
wizardwhere can i find that?09:33
CVirusDaSkreech: sounds like a good idea ... I just dont have a machine with Kubuntu + nvidia09:34
dadits in preferences but you might need to enable it via "alacarte menu editor"09:34
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dadim using nvidia mx4000 on kubunto desktop with beryl etc etc etc09:34
laervianhi everyone09:34
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wizardlol i certainly don't see it09:35
laerviandoes anyone know how to add startup applications in kubuntu?09:35
DaSkreechhi dad09:35
wizardyou guys gotta kinda dumb down some stuff for me im from suse where everything was simply YaST209:35
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wizarddad: what is alacarte menu editor"? and is there a way i can launch thisp rogram from the terminal?09:36
dadopen alacarte menu editor and go to sound and video OR mabey prefs and click on the choice and a further menu comes up...something like that09:36
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wizardwhere is alcarte?09:36
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DaSkreechwizard: Right click on the K menu09:36
DaSkreech-> menu editor09:37
CViruslaervian: ~/.kde/Autostart09:37
dadalacarte menu editor is an app installed on ubunto by default for editing your menus09:37
CViruslaervian: right click ---> create new ---> link to application09:37
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CVirusdad: this #Kubuntu09:37
wizardmp3 support is kicking my butt09:38
laervian CVirus: oh is that it? Thank you!09:38
CViruslaervian: no problem09:38
laervianwy wizard?09:38
CViruswizard: what is your problem ?09:38
laervianamarok works great09:38
laervianwith mp3s I mean :)09:38
dadIf you have trouble finding some apps you`ve installed THATS where to start to see if it needs enabled....next i install the debian menu which shows everything bar the kitchen sink09:38
wizardthe ubuntu guide09:38
zblachso, um, when can we expect a full release? beta seems pretty stable09:38
zblach:D09:38
wizardwhat package do i need to install to enable xine mp309:38
wizardno ! links please, someone just tell me what to install09:39
zblachgstreamer0.8-good09:39
CViruswizard: no one is gonna spoon feed you09:39
zblachoops09:39
wizardi like xine better than gstreamer though.09:39
jhutchins_wkWhere do you change the keyboard map/rules file?09:39
CViruswizard: by the way .. I already gave you the name of the package09:39
DaSkreechwizard: libxine-extracodecs09:39
wizardi did that09:39
wizardgives an error09:39
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zblachwell, read the error09:39
zblachand parse it09:39
T3hWiz0rdokay this i wizard on the kubuntu box... heres the error it gives me09:40
DaSkreechwizard: What error?09:40
T3hWiz0rdPackage libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:40
T3hWiz0rdThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:40
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T3hWiz0rdis only available from another source09:40
T3hWiz0rdE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate09:40
dadARHHHHH....just tippled...excuse the error....im using kubunto desktop on ubunto....new to pc`s full stop09:40
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: Enable multiverse09:40
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: i thought i had09:40
T3hWiz0rdthe multiverse is enabled in sources.lst09:41
DaSkreechYou are using the command line or adept?09:41
T3hWiz0rdcli09:42
dadSO is there the best place to come when i break it all and the forums have had enough of me09:42
dadis THIS even09:42
DaSkreechok sudo apt-get updatea && sudo apt-get isntall libxine-extracodecs09:42
DaSkreechdoh09:42
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DaSkreechok sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get isntall libxine-extracodecs09:42
dadget automatix.......put yer feet up09:42
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DaSkreechdad: Yes09:42
DaSkreechAutomatix es evil09:42
dadgood stuff........09:43
danny500how do I set up Thunderbird mail program to use my hotmail account?09:43
T3hWiz0rdsame error DaSkreech09:43
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DaSkreechThen you don't have multiverse enabled09:43
dadWhen you`ve only been on a pc a few months automatix rocks09:43
DaSkreechdad: Ahhh No then is when you need to learn!!09:44
dadim just lazy09:44
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DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: can you check tow things for me?09:44
DaSkreechtwo09:44
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danny500anybody?09:44
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DaSkreechdad: Much better you say that :)09:44
danny500v3ctor, you here?09:44
DaSkreechdanny500: Far as I know Microsoft stopped offering that09:45
danny500offering what?09:45
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: whats that09:45
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: im ready09:45
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tofhallo09:45
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dadmy wobbly windows and multi OS`s all work so im not doing tooo bad after only sitting down at an xp to play pacman in march09:45
DaSkreechaccess outside of outlook09:45
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DaSkreechdad: Excellent09:45
danny500really, that sucks09:45
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danny500but how would I set it up anyway;'s?09:46
danny500if they did09:46
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: ok open /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the line that has multiverse on it here09:46
tofcould someone help me about a message on kopete (on kubuntu) ?09:46
dadsuprised you aint heard "MA SCREECHING".....lol09:46
DaSkreechMake it a pop account But they stopped ofering that unless you pay them money09:46
danny500just ask the question09:46
DaSkreech!ask09:46
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:46
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DaSkreech!anyone09:47
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:47
danny500ok and what do i put for the incoming server address?09:47
tofkopete complains there is no samba server on localhost. this did not happen on previous fedora. how can i stop / unconfigure, or at least, why use samba for kopete ?09:47
danny500www.msn.com?09:47
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:47
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: That's the problem :)09:47
T3hWiz0rdwhats wrong? lol09:48
DaSkreechfind one withou the dapper-backports09:48
dhqtof what the problem09:48
dadi got fed up installing xp from a dusty old i386 cd and a floppy disk so went looking to see what the odd 10% used....and here thay all are09:48
DaSkreech You should have one like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe09:48
danny500install samba then09:48
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: can i copy and paste that one?09:48
DaSkreechdad: Hows it feel being odd?09:48
danny500yes09:48
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: It should be in the file already09:48
DaSkreechWith a # at the start09:48
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: its not09:48
tofwell, kopete stops every minute to complain. and why install samba server to chat on jabber ??09:49
DaSkreechThen you can use that one09:49
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DaSkreechtof: What does it say?09:49
danny500so it will stop whining thats why09:49
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danny500so install samba and prob solved09:49
tofit says "winpopu : connection to localhost failed. is your samba server running ?"09:49
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: getting the same error even after adding the one you gave me09:50
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DaSkreechtof: How did you configure kopete?09:50
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:50
T3hWiz0rdThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:50
tofdanny500 :install samba to use jabber ... sounds like a microsoft solution ... understanding would be great09:50
T3hWiz0rdis only available from another source09:50
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/soureces.list file?09:50
T3hWiz0rdE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate09:50
dadmy missus is starting to get worried ..all the talk about "gimps" and B.U.M`s is getting her suspicious..But other than that Ubunto and its foks is great stuff09:50
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: yeah sure09:50
T3hWiz0rd!paste09:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:50
danny500lol if it works then it works09:50
tofDaSkreech: i just added a few accounts09:50
DaSkreechdad: wait till you start raving about kate!!09:50
intelikeyaspell error:   Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".09:50
trappistT3hWiz0rd: you need to enable the multiverse repository09:51
danny500!windows09:51
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm09:51
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trappist!multiverse > T3hWiz0rd09:51
danny500lol09:51
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: as soon as i install firefox lol09:51
danny500thats how you do that09:51
dadDONT........Thats an ex`s name!!09:51
danny5001thunderbird setup09:51
danny500!thunderbird setup09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thunderbird setup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:51
DaSkreech!thunderbird09:51
ubotua FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042709:51
felixjet!bill gates09:51
danny500!thunderbird09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bill gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:51
felixjetxd09:51
DaSkreech!fishing09:52
danny500lol09:52
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops09:52
danny500!skating09:52
DaSkreechYOu can play with the bots in private09:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:52
danny500why not here?09:52
DaSkreechdanny500: try /msg bot skating09:52
danny500!why not here?09:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about why not here? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:52
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26663/09:52
felixjetbecause u will get kicked09:52
DaSkreechdanny500: cause I can't see people asking for help which is waht here is for09:52
felixjetXD09:52
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: paste for you :-)09:52
trappistdanny500: please to be cutting it out.09:52
danny500!msg bot skating09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msg bot skating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
danny500didn't work09:53
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felixjetuse / not !09:53
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: i also need to know how to change my sound input device09:53
danny500use what?09:53
felixjet /msg ubotu <word>09:53
tofbye :)09:53
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DaSkreechdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe should have a multiverse at the end09:53
danny500o ok09:53
DaSkreech!sound09:53
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:53
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danny500!steve jobs09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about steve jobs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
danny500oh well09:54
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: take out the universe line?09:54
intelikeyaspell error:   Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".     any somebody knows nothing about it ?09:54
DaSkreechdanny500: stop doing that09:54
danny500!lol09:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:54
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: No09:54
danny500ok09:54
DaSkreechdanny500: You can play with the bot just do it in private09:54
danny500see that, bots don't know how to laugh09:54
danny500lol09:54
danny500ok09:54
danny500how do I do that?09:54
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: i just need to know where in the system i change my hardware selection09:55
DaSkreechtype /msg bot hello09:55
danny500msg bot hello09:55
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DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: either kcontrol or System settings09:55
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: its defaulting to my onboard sound09:55
danny500nothing happened09:55
DaSkreechdanny500: with the / before msg09:55
danny500o ok09:55
T3hWiz0rdi am in system settings and that brings up arts. My card doesn't need arts09:55
intelikeydanny500 don't act dumber than you are.09:56
danny500sorry can't help it09:56
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felixjetXD09:56
danny500the new microsoft keyboard came out eh09:56
dhqis edgy safe09:56
dhqnow09:56
felixjettrappist:09:56
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trappistdhq: not officially09:57
felixjet.!kick danny50009:57
felixjetxD09:57
danny500It only has three key's, ctrl alt delet09:57
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DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: one problem at a time09:57
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DaSkreechadded multiverse saved and did an update?09:57
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trappistdanny500: maybe you'd be happier in #kubuntu-offtopic09:57
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: the libxine stuff installed now... now is to make the sound work09:57
DaSkreechdhq: Nope :)09:57
danny500thanks09:57
danny500but this room doesn't have a topic anyways09:57
DaSkreech!topic09:58
danny500never mind09:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:58
DaSkreechhmm09:58
felixjet /topic #kubuntu09:58
DaSkreechOh right :)09:58
felixjet^09:58
felixjet^^09:58
danny500is there a thunder bird topic?09:58
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dadtopics.........full of nuts09:58
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DaSkreechdad: That would be the tropics09:58
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danny500lol09:58
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: now how to i set alsa to play on my sb09:59
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dadNO...TOPICS:-)...you need to live in uk to understand the joke...sorry09:59
DaSkreechdanny500: http://www.digg.com/software/Check_Hotmail_and_Yahoo_e-mail_in_Thunderbird_09:59
danny500theres only one nut here and thats me lol09:59
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danny500ok thankx09:59
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: You get no sounds at all?09:59
T3hWiz0rdnope, its defaulting to my onboard09:59
dadI MUST disagree.....you`se aint had a load of mE yet10:00
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|xchat|!vb10:00
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: im trying to disable that device lol10:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:00
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felixjetanyone here knows how to put the aMsn icon in the bar (tray icon?). well, near the clock10:01
felixjetits bugged, the program is there but not the icon, its just a blank zone10:01
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danny500right click on the toolbar and go to add to panel10:01
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DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: Ahh  Umm gimmie a moment10:01
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DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: Have you looked under sound in System Settings?10:02
danny500!samba10:03
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:03
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: yes, thats to turn arts on though... I really don't wish to use arts if I can avoid it.10:03
dadsomebody getting lost????10:03
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DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: I meant to switch your audio device to somethign new10:04
danny500???10:04
jhutchins_wkI'm not getting any sound from this stream: http://129.237.213.240/asxgen/wmtencoder/kpr2.wma.asx10:04
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: how? in the system preffs menu it only goes to arts10:04
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jhutchins_wkIt has worked before though.10:04
jhutchins_wkAny idea what the problem might be?10:04
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: Where are you talking about?10:04
dhqtrappist: but it is safe to upgrade rite10:04
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chris___hi, how can i create a snapshot?10:05
DaSkreechPrint screen10:05
trappistdhq: not officially.  it went pretty well for me.10:05
chris___ah thx10:05
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DaSkreechdhq: Don't do it on a production machine. Other than that go right ahead10:06
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: i am trying to change the default output device is all10:06
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dhqi am on a centrino laptop10:07
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DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: Yes and you said in the system prefs menu. Where is that?10:07
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DaSkreechdhq: Good for you!10:07
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felixjet!tar10:07
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression10:07
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: system settings10:07
felixjethow to tar?10:07
felixjettar -XXX ?10:08
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dhqDaSkreech: so it will work properly i had sound driver problems in drapper will it be solved in edgy10:08
felixjetto untar i mean10:08
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DaSkreechtar xzf file.tar dir/to/tar10:08
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DaSkreechtar czf filetountar.tgz10:08
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dadSystem settings>sound & multimedia>hardware for the sound chap10:08
felixjetwhy x ?10:08
flaccid!find smart10:08
ubotuFound: libgdome2-cpp-smart-dev, libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a, smartdimmer, smartmontools, gsmartcard (and 12 others)10:08
felixjetah10:08
DaSkreechdhq: maybe :)10:09
dhqpl thanx10:09
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DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: and this is under hardware?10:09
dhqok thanx10:09
flaccid!find smart > flaccid10:09
T3hWiz0rdno, theres nothing about sound under hardware10:09
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DaSkreechNo System settings -> Sounds and Multimedia -> Sound system - > hardware10:09
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flaccidkde sound system is not required :)10:10
dadselect the audio device function10:10
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: thats there but thats arts man, i don't wanna use arts10:10
felixjetlmao my console is showin tons of chars !10:10
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: All it sasys is arts?10:11
felixjetDaSkreech: u sure is czf?10:11
DaSkreechsays10:11
DaSkreechfelixjet: x to extract and c to create10:11
felixjetthis is a .tar.gz10:11
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T3hWiz0rdhmmm10:11
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: i wish it had a sound device configuration like YaST210:11
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DaSkreechMaybe it will one day :)10:12
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T3hWiz0rdi'll go disable it in bios10:12
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T3hWiz0rdthen ti will be forced to use that device10:12
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: But under Select Audio device all it says is arts?10:12
T3hWiz0rddesti: when i go to that10:12
T3hWiz0rdhold on10:12
felixjethow to kill a shell console?10:12
felixjetwhats the process name?10:12
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T3hWiz0rdh ave it set to ALSA10:12
T3hWiz0rdbut it doesn't ask for a hardware device.10:13
matohi people! Can anone help me with Kdevelop?10:13
flaccid!ask > mato10:14
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DaSkreechfelixjet: type exit10:14
matosorry I am first time on IRC...10:14
dadsnap10:14
felixjetyay but it crashed10:14
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felixjetis showing me tons of chars10:14
DaSkreechIs this Konsole?10:15
flaccidhow can i get ubotu to show all the results of a !find10:15
felixjetDaSkreech:10:15
felixjetno10:15
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T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: i'll just disable it in bios10:15
DaSkreechfelixjet: Well then kill hte pid10:15
T3hWiz0rdbrb10:15
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: Ok :010:15
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matoubotu is a man?10:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a man? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:16
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felixjet>.< i typed tar -z thats why crashed10:17
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DangerousQ? Kubuntu boots and then hangs starting X ATI Radon 760010:18
felixjet!kubuntu.10:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:18
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felixjet22:18]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu. - <<<10:18
felixjetXD10:18
dustindangerous: livecd or install?10:18
DaSkreechDid it owrk before?10:18
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Dangerouslive10:18
Dangerousno never10:19
dustinwhen you are at the livcd menu10:19
DaSkreechok10:19
dustinhit f6 and delete the part about quiet splash10:19
KDEfanboywow ubotu, tsk tsk10:19
dustinitll boot up, try to hit X, crash back to console10:19
dustinsudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:19
dustinand change the driver ati to vesa10:19
dadAny of you guys know how to set the zoom for the cube in beryl settings manager so it goes into the distance so to speak???I can seem to get my head round the different settings10:19
DaSkreech!ubuntu10:19
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome10:19
dustinthen sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart10:19
dustinand you should be good to go10:19
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Dangerousok thanks10:19
dustinthat is a stopgap solution ^ once you install you can configure the fglrx driver10:19
dustingl10:19
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DaSkreechdad: Umm I think it's distance either in the cube setting or in the rotate settings10:19
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Dangerouswhen it hangs the entire systems hangs10:20
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Dangerouscant escape10:20
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dustinyep i know whatcha mean =) i have the same deal10:20
dustin(i think)10:20
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Dangerousit's a bad deal10:20
dustinindeed10:20
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Dangeroushave you tried playing with the frame buffers10:21
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dustin1 sec10:21
francociao10:21
DaSkreechLIke the LiveCD kernel panics0.1 seconds in to the boot on two of my machines10:21
intelikeyaspell error:   Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".      anyone can advise ?10:22
wizardkubuntu doesn't reboot properly for me10:22
dustindo you mean you tried restarting it and taking out the quiet splash part and it still is locking up?10:22
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wizardwhen i hit reboot it turns my monitor off and idles...10:22
wizardand thats ALL it does10:22
Dangerousnope not yet10:22
wizardi have to hard reboot10:22
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wizardjust to let you guys know10:22
dustinim not sure why its broken, but once you set it to vesa you can get it all installed, then install fglrx afterwards10:22
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dustinthats what ive done, just today actually, its very smooth10:23
Dangerouswill try tonight10:23
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dustingood luck10:23
wizardanyone got any answers as to why kubuntu doesn't reboot? just seems to go idle?10:23
intelikeywizard there is some bios taht require a slightly different reset code.   google   or a search in the kernel docs can explain10:23
wizardall other linux distros reboot fine10:23
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intelikeywizard i'm telling you. it's a kernel thing.10:24
wizardintelikey: okay, i just don't get how suse is usnig the same kernel and it reboots fine10:24
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intelikeycause suse built the kernel with different op sig  than ubuntu did.10:24
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DaSkreechwizard: I doubt it's the same kernel :)10:25
intelikeyDaSkreech i think he meant same kernel version.10:25
wizardDaSkreech: yeah10:25
wizardi'll deal with that later...10:25
wizardi gotta run to work10:25
wizardDaSkreech: i had to disable every other device before it would go to that... which makes me mad10:25
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intelikeybut it's all in the kernel config10:26
wizardbut i'll deal with that later, theres gotta be a manual way to delete those devices10:26
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felixjeta installation is asking me one thing that i dunno10:27
DaSkreechwizard: I'll check for it10:27
felixjetWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running10:27
felixjetkernel?10:27
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felixjetwhat directory must i enter'10:27
DaSkreechintelikey: Is there a KDE way to specify a specific device?10:27
dudehow do u make a shortcut to you desktop10:27
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intelikeywizard but *buntu kernels have the SysRQ hot keys enabled   you can   SysRQ+alt+b    one should SysRQ+alt+u first to make sure that / is ro  for instance.10:27
DaSkreechfelixjet: did you install kernel-headers?10:27
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intelikeyDaSkreech device ?10:27
DaSkreechdude: hi10:28
felixjetapt-get install kernel-headers?10:28
felixjetxD10:28
DaSkreechintelikey: If you have three sound cards in your machine and you want to use one as your main sound device10:28
DaSkreechfelixjet: yup and the installer should be good after that10:28
dudeDaskreech: hello10:28
DaSkreechdude: Add a launcher10:28
dudeDaskreech: my pc is wierd10:28
intelikeyDaSkreech idk  prolly.    look in alsamixer settings   or in the arts config10:28
archangel_shalom folks10:28
dudeDaskreech: everthing is running fine10:29
DaSkreecharchangel_: Shalom10:29
dudeincluding 3Ddesktop10:29
dudeheheheh10:29
DaSkreechdude: Yeah! Who does your PC think it is!10:29
DaSkreech Working with no problems! The nerve!10:29
intelikeyarchangel_ Aleichem10:29
dudeheheheh10:29
dudeya10:29
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dudethanks daskreech10:29
archangel_I have a warning sign that popped up on my desktop over my clock and it wont go away10:30
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DaSkreechintelikey: Where now?10:30
DaSkreecharchangel_: What made the sign?10:30
archangel_about a router/firewall10:30
intelikeyDaSkreech i don't have kde installed..... ah, mind asking someone that does ?10:30
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marteaudoranybody use trendware TEW-424UB usb wireless?10:31
DaSkreechWho here uses KDE? :)10:31
archangel_no Idea just popped up and I click on hide and it wont go away10:31
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felixjetDaSkreech: :( still no directory10:31
felixjetWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running10:31
felixjetkernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 10:31
felixjetThe path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.10:31
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dadmoi...Kubunto pc and kde\gnome pc with wobbly windows10:31
intelikeyarchangel_ what is the message ?10:32
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archangel_DaSkreech: "if you have a router /firewall, please check that you have port 65468 UDP open. Decenteralised tracking requires this."10:33
Taly010:33
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intelikeyfelixjet if you have kernel source installed there should be a version number /usr/src/linux$(uname -r)/      for example10:33
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felixjetyay10:33
Talanyone point me to a manual on how to instal a wireless router :)10:33
felixjetintelikey:  fixed already ty10:33
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Talive had a little google, but am having problems.10:33
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felixjeti should read google before >.<10:34
DHGE!wlan10:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:34
Tal:(10:34
intelikeyi started to read google one time.  but i gave up on page 409738210:34
DaSkreecharchangel_: Running ktorrent?10:35
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archangel_not sure. its covering my system tray10:35
archangel_lol10:35
dadif patience is a virtue....be a virtuoso......a google fan10:35
archangel_I DID have is open last night but I thought I closed it out10:35
flaccidimpatience is a gift10:35
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archangel_ALT+TAB doesnt bring it up10:36
Talktorrent ftw10:36
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flaccidhas anyone elses konsole font gone darker after upgrading to kde 3.5.510:36
dadits a whole bloody xmas in this mad house with my 5 kids10:36
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archangel_dad: ooohh, my prayers are with you10:37
dadHe he...it`s the scottish missus thats the REAL trouble10:38
DaSkreechdad: so you DID have your name legally changed to your nick :)10:38
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intelikeyaspell error:   Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".     anyone ?10:38
archangel_lol10:38
Talmm think i found something might bbs!10:38
DaSkreechintelikey: Maybe you don't have english in US?10:39
intelikeyDaSkreech well i know that.  but what about the computer error ?10:39
intelikey:)10:39
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dadno thats just my logon...my real name is XPOD........because my XP O.D`d after 4 months of me breaking it and so i discovered ubunto10:39
DaSkreechWhat threw this?10:40
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archangel_lol10:40
intelikeyecho word | aspell -a10:40
DaSkreechdad: Welcome to many more breaks :)10:40
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sexiehey guys10:40
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intelikeyecho word | aspell -a  >>>Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".10:41
sexieI installed ubuntu last night and in windows it stills shows the old information10:41
LjLflaccid: well, no reason to include it unless you also include a decent accessible graphical interface for it... i suppose10:41
DaSkreechintelikey: check if you have that installed?10:41
intelikeyhave what installed ?10:41
intelikeyecho ?10:41
DaSkreechsexie: You expected Windows to update?10:42
intelikeylol10:42
DaSkreechecho is a shell builtin10:42
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DaSkreech!away10:42
ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines10:42
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intelikeyactually it's an app   /bin/echo10:42
DaSkreechreally?10:42
flaccidLjL: i guess so10:42
DaSkreechtype echo10:42
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DaSkreechthen send me money :)10:42
LjLintelikey: actually it *is* a shell builtin in bash10:42
sexieDaSkreech; the [partition in which I installed ubuntu is stil shown under windows and the files that were there earl;ier are still therer.10:42
dad2 months so far,5 re-installs,countless "xorg.conf`s" and i still dont know my alsa from my oss....but am loving every minute of it..Just pissed i never found it sooner10:43
intelikeyls -l /bin/echo10:43
intelikey-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15K May  5 12:50 /bin/echo10:43
intelikeyduh10:43
LjLintelikey: yeah, that doesn't mean it's not a builtin though10:43
DaSkreechintelikey: type echo10:43
DaSkreechThat's the actual answer10:43
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LjLintelikey: it just means that, *if* you use a shell that doesn't have it as a builtin, you *also* have an actual command in /bin10:43
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flaccidLjL: is there a frontend anywhere for smart?10:43
intelikeyDaSkreech typing echo does nothing but move you down one line10:43
DaSkreechintelikey: Nooo10:44
LjLflaccid: not that i know of unfortunately10:44
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DaSkreechtype in <type echo>10:44
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flaccidecho "foo"10:44
DaSkreechTo tell you what type of a command echo is10:44
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intelikey/bin/echo is /bin/echo10:44
max_does anyone know of a way to unpac 7z's besides p7zip, or can anyone help me get p7zip working10:45
DaSkreechsexie: I think that maybe it's a different partition?10:45
dadas long as you dont want your shopping carried10:45
DaSkreechintelikey: don't get smart :)10:45
flaccidmax_: i think you should try somewhere else.10:45
max_i have looked all over the net10:45
archangel_rebooted...  fixed problem10:45
sexieno dear.10:45
intelikeyDaSkreech hmmmmm   so see if what is installed ?10:45
flaccidmax_: maybe you have a corrupt archive10:45
sexiedo you think I'm a noob?10:46
max_ive Dled multiple archives10:46
DaSkreechan dictionary pack for aspell10:46
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DaSkreechsexie: No But if you can access the files then they are there which means that ubuntu didn't format the drive which I find unlikely10:46
dadnoobs rule10:46
DaSkreech!noob10:46
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.10:46
LjLsexie: i just can't think of a plausible reason why the very same partition you have ubuntu installed on could be shown in Windows as a valid FAT/NTFS partition10:47
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DaSkreechSeems the only thing ubotu doesn't know is Kubuntu :)10:47
DaSkreechLjL: With orking files10:47
DaSkreechworking10:47
max_flaccid: do you know any other programs that upack them?10:47
AlHello. I'm sure you get this a lot but I can't install cedega due to dependency on xlibs. Is this an old cedega I've been given?10:47
flaccidmax_: i answered that yesterday10:47
LjLAl: yes, it's for breezy, and you have dapper.10:48
sexieit still shows the same partiion as FAT3210:48
max_Ark dosnt do it10:48
AlOK cool thanks10:48
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LjL!cedega > al10:48
sexieit installed in 15-20 mins though10:48
intelikeyDaSkreech next time i over look something so obvious just point at echo.......10:48
flaccidmax_: did you try ##linux?10:48
DaSkreechsexie: Sounds about right10:48
intelikey:)10:48
max_in a terminal?10:48
DaSkreech sexie: And you logged into Linux?10:48
flaccidmax_: no irc10:48
max_no10:48
max_##linux10:48
Alta ljl I'll read up and stuff10:48
flaccidi told you that yesterday as well10:49
sexieDaSkreech; yep it showed the copying too.10:49
flaccidmax_: /join ##linux10:49
max_[15:49]  [Error]  ##linux: Unknown command.10:49
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intelikeyi expected aspell to depend on an aspell-<lang> package  it obviously doesn't.10:49
bluch!serverlist10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about serverlist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
_abbenormalwhats the bets release to use with an amd64 cpu breezy dapper or edty10:49
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_abbenormalbest10:49
sexieDaSkreech; no; am on windows currently. anyways it gives some X-server error and throws me on the shell10:49
LjL_abbenormal: dapper is the release to use on any system.10:50
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LjL_abbenormal: breezy is the older version, and edgy isn't out yet.10:50
DaSkreechsexie: Wouldn't happen to know the X error?10:50
_abbenormalok so its more towards the 64 bit setup10:50
intelikey"never assume malous where stupidity would explain it."10:50
DaSkreechmalice10:50
intelikeyiuuui10:50
dadAssumption is the mother of all F**k ups10:51
DaSkreechthat aspell -a thing is useful10:51
sexieDaSkreech; Have to reboot to give the error.10:51
intelikeyDaSkreech now you know why i need aspell10:51
flaccidassume makes an ass out of me and u10:51
_abbenormalso what your saying is use dapper 6.0610:51
DaSkreechsexie: hold on10:51
dadspot on10:51
flaccidor u and me10:51
coreymon77what does aspell mean10:51
LjL_abbenormal: uh... yes.10:51
DaSkreechyou have a login for Linux already right?10:51
coreymon77i mean10:51
_abbenormalhum10:51
coreymon77what does it do10:51
intelikeyass-u-me10:51
flaccidwell dappper 6.06.110:51
LjL_abbenormal: as i said, edgy isn't out yet, so i don't see why you should use it. and breezy is, well, old10:51
sexieyep. on the shell.10:51
_abbenormaledty isnt that 6.1010:52
DaSkreechsexie: ok when you login run irssi -c irc.freenode.net10:52
LjL_abbenormal: edgy is 6.1010:52
DaSkreechthen when it logs in /nick sexie10:52
coreymon77what does aspell do?10:52
DaSkreechthen /join #kubuntu10:52
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DaSkreechsexie: and we can help you from there :)10:52
flaccidedgy is for testers/experimenters10:52
_abbenormalok and its not out yet10:52
flacciduntil its released10:52
LjL_abbenormal: correct, it is not10:52
flaccidso wait or use dapper10:52
sexieDaSkreech; actually my internet works after a client runs. no direct connection.10:52
dhqi have an avi file and i want to make it a vcd format to play on my dvd player10:53
_abbenormalwell then ill stay with sid its working fine so far10:53
coreymon77what does aspell do10:53
DaSkreechsexie: So no net for you ?10:53
_abbenormalthanks LjL10:53
coreymon77what is the command aspell -a10:53
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intelikeyactually bash has a ton of built-in krap that there is already an app on the system...  i don't know why they "bloated" bash like that.10:53
LjL_abbenormal: well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.10:53
sexieDaSkreech; from the linux for the timebeing.10:53
intelikeycoreymon77 you pipe things through that.10:53
coreymon77???10:53
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DaSkreech!info aspell > coreymon7710:53
ubotuaspell: GNU Aspell spell-checker. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60.4-2 (dapper), package size 126 kB, installed size 1056 kB10:53
_abbenormaltrue but you dont learn doing that10:53
DaSkreechdumb bot10:53
coreymon77is it like a text censor?10:53
intelikeyecho "my words to check " | aspell -a10:54
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DaSkreechcoreymon77: Do you use the command line?10:54
CVirus!katoob10:54
ubotukatoob: A Gtk2 light weight multilingual BiDi aware text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8-1build1 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 572 kB10:54
intelikeyecho "my werds to chcek " | aspell -a10:54
coreymon77yup10:54
sexiethe stupid ISP has stopped developing client for linux too.10:54
dhq!isp10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about isp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
miro_is multiuniverse version of mplayer support truetype fonts ?10:54
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flaccid!mythtv > flaccid10:55
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miro_a have some strange message: " ... doesn't look like a font description, ignoring."10:55
miro_?10:55
CVirus!mythtv10:55
theresahey everyone!10:55
ubotumythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/10:55
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DaSkreechsexie: give us the address and we'll flood them with letters :)10:55
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DaSkreechcoreymon77: try man aspell10:56
archangel_hey, ubuntu cant see my floppy?10:56
archangel_whats up with that?10:56
sexieDaSkreech; lol. I'll give you. by the way its sify.com and the subsite is braodband.sify.com10:57
jhutchins_wkI can't see your floppy either.10:57
_abbenormalsudo mnt floppy10:57
sexiebroadband*10:57
archangel_oh ok10:57
archangel_command not found10:58
DaSkreechHow does Dbus Work?10:58
DaSkreech can you have a dbus command line app?10:58
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LjLarchangel_: that's because the command "mnt" doesn't exist afaik. try "sudo mount /media/floppy"10:58
chris___i get the message "too many symbolic links", when i want to link the java plugin to firefox10:58
chris___what can i do10:58
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archangel_cant find media10:59
archangel_mount: can't find /media/floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:59
DaSkreecharchangel_: are you sure you are on Kubuntu?10:59
DaSkreechAh ok :)10:59
LjLarchangel_: try "sudo mount /media/floppy0" then11:00
archangel_lol yeah11:00
archangel_ok11:00
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archangel_will that create a icon for me?11:00
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LjLif you're lucky11:00
archangel_or does that just enable?11:00
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flaccidis there a gui for apache ?11:01
intelikeysudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/ -o umask=011:01
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DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: Hi11:04
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draikHow do I change the IP address to my desktop? (router IP)11:04
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: hey man11:04
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DaSkreechdraik: eh?11:05
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flacciddraik: system settings | networking from kmenu11:05
DaSkreechKai-: Bloody stop it!11:05
draikDaSkreech, I want to change my IP address from x.x.x.102 to x.x.x.10111:05
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DaSkreechdraik: you want a GUI way or a command line way?11:05
draikCLI!!!!!!!!11:05
DaSkreechdraik: I assume you are not on DHCP?11:05
T3hWiz0rdT3hWiz0rd: i will say this... no matter what distro you use, linux is so great at migration... simply preserve your home folder and your setting return to nearly exactly what they were before the migration.11:05
flacciddraik: /etc/network/interfaces11:05
intelikeyifconfig11:06
draikI have tried       sudo ifconfig x.x.x.10111:06
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T3hWiz0rdwait why did i talk to myself11:06
draikbut when I do that, I can't connect to the 'net anymore11:06
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hazard_anyone have any experience with SiS video chipsets?11:06
DaSkreechit's sudo ifconfig eth<n> X.X.X.101 netmask 255.255.255.<n>11:06
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hazard_My system locks up hard after a few minutes of running.11:06
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hazard_(though the time varies)11:07
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: I assumed it was a habit of yours :)11:07
draiksorry, yes        sudo ifconfig eth0 x.x.x.10111:07
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hazard_it seems to be getting progressively worse though11:07
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: I do love myself but now that much lol11:07
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draikbut I never placed the subnet mask11:07
DaSkreechdraik: type route and see if you ahve a default gw11:07
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draikDaSkreech, command?11:07
T3hWiz0rdDaSkreech: thank you for your help. The next step will be to figure out why my system hangs when told to reboot.11:07
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DaSkreechif not then sudo route add default gw X.X.X.<n>11:07
DaSkreechdraik: just route by itself should list11:08
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DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: Exactly :)11:08
draikok11:08
draikwhat do you need from the list?11:08
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intelikeyT3hWiz0rd kernel build time configuration....11:08
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T3hWiz0rdintelikey: how do  Ichange it or configure it?11:08
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DaSkreechDoes it have at least three entries?11:09
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intelikeybuild a new kernel11:09
DaSkreechdraik ^^11:09
draikno, just 211:09
T3hWiz0rdis amarok 1.4 available on here?11:09
draik!pastebin11:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:09
T3hWiz0rdI'd prefer 1.4 if possible.11:09
DaSkreech!amarok11:09
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org11:09
draikDaSkreech http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26675/11:09
DaSkreechdraik: run the second command I gave11:10
DaSkreechsudo route add default gw X.X.X.<n>11:10
T3hWiz0rdsweet11:10
T3hWiz0rdI've missed apt-get a little11:10
T3hWiz0rdso much easier than yast for package management11:10
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hazard_anyone have any experience with SiS video chipsets?11:10
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sexieback; DaSkreech11:11
draikDaSkreech, ok, I ran that other command11:11
DaSkreechsexie: Welcome11:11
DaSkreechdraik: Have net?11:11
draikI'm still online11:11
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draikbut my IP is still 102, not 10111:11
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T3hWiz0rdis the mplayer-plugin installed by default on dapper? by chance?11:12
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sexieIt says "failed to start X-server (your graphics shel.. blah blah) and asks if I wanna see the output11:12
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DaSkreechdraik: You did the sudo ifconfig eth<n> X.X.X.101 netmask 255.255.255.<n> ?11:12
intelikeydraik just out of habit i'll speek  is there already a 101 on your netblock ?11:12
T3hWiz0rdwait no i see its not11:12
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T3hWiz0rdintelikey: how would I go about fixing that11:12
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: No It's a fully open source Distro11:12
sexieDaSkreech; on clicking "yes" it gives the version no. etc. x-wndows system version 6.8.2 etc11:13
draikintelikey, not there isn't. It's just my laptop 100 and my desktop 101... my sis is also on the network, but she's not online. She takes 102... usually11:13
hazard_Why do i always end up with all the hardware that has ALL the random problems?11:13
intelikeyT3hWiz0rd there is a whole page in the kernel docs about the reset signal and how some boxen need one sig and some another...11:13
DaSkreechsexie: Sorry yes to what?11:13
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: where are the kernel docs though intelikey?11:13
sexieDaSkreech; It says "failed to start X-server (your graphics shel.. blah blah) and asks if I wanna see the output11:14
sexieDaSkreech; on clicking "yes" it gives the version no. etc. x-wndows system version 6.8.2 etc11:14
intelikeyhttp://kernel.org ?11:14
intelikeyi meant the docs that are part of the kernel package T3hWiz0rd11:14
T3hWiz0rdso is aptitude still a work-in-progress?11:14
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intelikeywhen you do a xconfig or menu-config you can access them with the help feture11:15
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intelikeyfeature11:15
DaSkreechsexie: Lord this would be so much easier if you had net there :0(11:15
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sexieyeah! I know.11:16
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: i don't see anything there about that11:16
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intelikeyit's like that (R) Ragu'   it's  in there.11:16
hazard_Can you kill Xwindows once it starts and fall back to the command line?11:17
sexieDaSkreech; anyways can anyone you tell me how to configure ip address in ubuntu. I'll try to find the client for linux11:17
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gnomefreakKaiHanari: can you please stop changing your nick so often11:17
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DaSkreechsexie: ifconfig should show you the ipaddress11:17
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DaSkreechif not then sudo ifconfig eth0 <ipaddress> netmask 255.255.255.0 (if that is your netmask) should work11:18
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gnomefreakKai-Laptop: stop11:18
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TheGateKeeperhazard try Ctrl + alt + backspace (not sure if my memoery is correct)11:18
ryanakcayeah, ctrl-alt-backspace11:18
hazard_okie11:19
hazard_I'll try that next time I restart to see if the frozen screen is just Xwindows in a coma11:19
hazard_(though that wouldn't explain why the caps lock light does nothing also)11:19
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DaSkreechsexie: You should also set your gateway11:20
dadpersonally i always use aptitude as it resolves the dependancies better than apt-get......http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude11:20
sexieDaSkreech; it sould be done from ifconfig i suppose11:20
DaSkreechsexie: Oh no type route11:21
hazard_I've got an old sony vaio desktop with a software controlled fan (when running windows), do I have any options for having it NOT run at full power under linux?11:21
DaSkreechif you only have two entries and noe say default gw then you have no gateway11:21
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TheGateKeeperdad: ohhh someone that knows about aptitude?11:21
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sexieDaSkreech; hmm thanks11:22
DaSkreechyou can add one with sudo route add default gw <ipaddress>11:22
sorush20I think i have a bug11:22
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sexieDaSkreech; "route add default gw <ip>" ?? and ifconfig will allow changing ip? how?11:23
TheGateKeeperdad: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade <-- do you use that for updates?11:23
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LjLdist-upgrade possibly rather than upgrade11:23
dadI have sqeezed quite a bit in in my short time:-)......was still getting my DLL`s and my LOL`s mixed up as i left windows11:24
jhutchins_wkHow do I disable gamin?11:24
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jhutchins_wkIt's using like 20% of my CPU.11:24
DaSkreechsudo ifconfig eth<n> X.X.X.<n> netmask 255.255.255.<n> ?11:24
TheGateKeeperLjL: isn't dist-upgrade a bit of a sledge hammer?11:24
DaSkreechsexie: and a last resort is setting up DNS :)11:25
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dadsorry....do you actually even need the second "sudo aptitude"??????11:25
sexieDaSkreech; can you PM me all the commands needed. setting up IP, DG and DNS ?11:25
LjLTheGateKeeper: it should just be smarter than upgrade in theory. then your mileage may vary... read the man page for the actual differences11:25
LjLdad: uh, yeah11:25
jhutchins_wkPlease tell me how to kill gamin.11:26
dadsorry...was`nt sure...never used it.I just get updates if and when informed11:26
TheGateKeeperdad: you'd just use the 1st one?11:26
freewilli can't get smb to share any thing (when i right click -> share a folder I just get allot of uneditable content)11:26
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DaSkreechsexie: do you know the parameters you need to get on the internet?11:27
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dadyeah...plus i use it if im installing anything with aptitude...i do the update first11:27
sexieDaSkreech; the Ip addresses ? yep!11:27
TheGateKeeperdad: ok thanx11:28
wizardi don't think its my kernel thats messing up dad11:28
wizardDaSkreech:11:28
DaSkreechsexie: and gateway etc?11:28
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wizardwhen i tried to switch runlevels it locked up just like it did when i reboot11:28
wizardDaSkreech: leading me to beleive its the nvidia drivers that are actually causing it11:28
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hazard_Is it normal for the blue 'Kubuntu' loading screen to look all pixely and hard to read?11:29
sexieDaSkreech; yep. I'm an MCSE actually.11:29
DaSkreechsexie: That don't mean a thing if yu have an idiotic ISP who won't give you info :)11:29
sexieDaSkreech; but wanna extend my knowledge into Open source11:29
hazard_what's the command to drop to terminal?11:29
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MHazem!wengo11:30
dadIm still only doing single terminal(konsole) commands...aint started doubling them up yet...lol.....sorry but im having trouble keeping track of all this.When my kernal messed up i just went to synaptic and installed it again over itself11:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wengo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:30
DaSkreechsexie:  are you registered on here with nickserv?11:30
DaSkreechhazard_: Alt+Ctrl+F111:30
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wizardDaSkreech: the drivers are causing linux to hang up when you change runlevels or restart X11:30
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flaccidwhy does debconf rarely work with its scripts11:30
flaccidFailed to connect to database: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) at -e line 5, <> line 1.11:30
wizard!nvidia11:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:30
sexieDaSkreech; LOL. they used to have it earlier but do't have it now. I hope to get a custom made client. afterall I'm not alone.11:31
flaccidits not even providing password11:31
MHazem!wengophone11:31
ubotuwengophone: SIP-based software telephone with video and chat features. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+svn4511-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3309 kB, installed size 7660 kB11:31
sexieDaSkreech; not currently.11:31
DaSkreechOk so you can't respond to my messages :)11:31
sexieDaSkreech; I have a lag of appx 10 secs11:32
wizardDaSkreech: kubuntu wont boot now11:32
wizarduhg...11:32
DaSkreechwizard: What error?11:32
wizardnone, it freezes on slacsh11:32
felixjet!uninstall11:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:32
felixjet:( how i do uninstall applications?11:33
wizardDaSkreech: watching it boot now...11:33
DaSkreechwizard: on what?11:33
wizardDaSkreech: im watching it11:33
wizardhmmm11:33
wizardDaSkreech: it finishes boot and then returns to the kubuntu splash11:34
wizardDaSkreech: i can get into single user moad11:34
wizardbut runlevel 7 doesn't function or respond11:34
DaSkreechwizard: Oh then you are set then :)11:34
wizardits seeing my card as a radeon which its not11:35
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DaSkreechsexie:  I think that should have you setup properly to be on the internet :)11:36
DaSkreechsexie: If you had a Live Cd that would be even better11:36
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wizardDaSkreech: it has all my stuff set up as "ati"11:36
wizardcan i just install the nvidia drivers off the nvidia site?11:36
DaSkreechwizard: Ah great :(11:36
DaSkreechwizard: I suspect you can but what?11:37
wizardDaSkreech: the ubuntu guide for drivers didn't work11:37
DaSkreechdid you d a sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg ?11:37
flaccidwhere are setup scripts kept for packages ie. what this calls Setting up mythtv-database (0.18.1-5ubuntu3) ...11:37
sexieregistered. :D11:37
draikDaSkreech, isn't it         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?11:37
DaSkreechWhoop11:38
DaSkreechwizard: That thing draik said11:38
draikLOL11:38
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DaSkreechsexie: Nice so you can answer me now :)11:39
wizardenter the ammount of memory to be used by yuour video card?11:39
wizardwhat should that be?11:39
wizardits a 256MB card11:39
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draikwizard, you can just press ENTER if you want11:39
sexieDaSkreech; yeah11:39
wizarduse kernel framebuffer device interface?11:39
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wizarddraik: should i say yes or no to that?11:40
DaSkreechsexie: Wait was it a live Cd you used to install?11:40
draikwizard, the defaults should suffice11:40
DaSkreechwizard: Defaults are fine till you get to the part you want to change11:40
simone_where can i found other channels?11:40
DaSkreech wizard: It's a LOT of question :)11:40
draiksimone_ what other channels?11:40
DaSkreechsimone_: try typing /list11:40
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simone_ah ok11:41
simone_thanks11:41
sexieDaSkreech; no! it was an installation disc.11:41
DaSkreechsexie: Ack! No Live Cds?11:42
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flaccidhow to find which package provides a certain file but the package is not installed?11:42
wizardwhat is init 5 on kubuntu?11:42
wizardinit 6 or something?11:42
trappistflaccid: sudo apt-get install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search filename11:42
DaSkreechinit 6 is reboot11:42
wizardlol11:43
wizardOOOPPS11:43
sexieDaSkreech; I have one for knoppix:games and one for linspire.11:43
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Kubuwhen i type modprobe ndiswrapper, it tells me11:43
KubuFATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.11:43
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wizardwell the good news is reboot works it was nvidia drivers playing games that was freezing it from rebooting11:43
Kubuanyone knows why'?11:43
flaccidty trappist11:43
DaSkreechsexie: Anyone works as long as you can get on the net :)11:43
wizarddraik: now the drivers should function properly?11:43
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draikyes wizard11:43
wizarddraik: one would hope you're right my friendj11:44
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wizardkubuntu seems to install video drivers in a very odd way...11:44
draikwizard, I'll cross my fingers for you11:44
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wizardahh11:44
wizardtheres the splash for nvidia11:44
sexieDaSkreech; there's no problem with linspire or knoppix. they work fine.11:44
wizardnow can i switch run levels? there is a mystery...11:44
trappistflaccid: if you apt-file search for the full path, omit the leading /11:45
wizardno... draik when i try to switch run levels it goes to a blank screen...11:45
flaccidah ok11:45
wizarddraik: and the entire system hangs.11:45
draikwizard, restart the whole desktop11:45
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flaccidso apt-file search etc/init.d/apache211:45
miguelj11:45
wizarddraik: the entire thing is frozen, i just started from a fresh boot too11:45
wizardit is entirely frozen11:45
draikwizard, or if you want type startx in tty111:45
wizarddraik: it is ENTIRELY frozen11:46
wizardwhere am i gonna type it11:46
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miguelhow can i change my actual login manager if im using gnome?11:46
wizarddraik: no screen, monitor blank and in standby mode.11:46
wizarddraik: no keyboard response, nothing11:46
wizarddraik: i ahve to hard reset it now11:46
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DaSkreechsexie: You get net on both of them? :)11:47
wizarddraik: any ideas?11:47
draikjust the hard reset for now and get a tty111:47
wizarddraik: it hangs whenever X terminates11:47
wizarddraik: just totally HANGS11:47
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wizardican't get a tty1 cos it hangs when you go to it11:47
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wizarddraik: k, i got ttyy111:48
wizarddraik: stopped it before nvidia loaded11:48
draikok11:48
draiktype statx11:48
draiksorry11:48
draikstartx11:48
draikforgot the R11:48
wizardits already started11:48
sexieDaSkreech; never tried. I didn't had/have the client you know. seaching for the client currently11:48
wizarddraik: how do i stop X?11:49
wizard!ssh11:49
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/11:49
wizardhmm how can i enable sshd incase it hangs up again?11:49
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draikstop x?11:50
wizarddraik: how do i stop it?11:50
wizardalso how do i enable sshd in kubuntu?11:50
draiknever stopped X. Sorry11:50
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wizarddraik: i mean we know the problem is the nvidia drivers are hanging the system when you change run levels...11:50
wizarddraik: thats clearly already decided11:50
trappistwizard: sudo apt-get install openssh-server11:51
MidMarkhi, someone knows a good mp3 player with mixing capabilities for djs?11:51
draikhold on... wizard, what is the driver? nvidia or nv?11:51
wizardnvidia11:51
draikok, that's what I have11:51
draiktry nv and see if that works for you11:51
wizardi am gonna try to use the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website11:51
wizarddraik: it worked fine when it was nv11:52
draikwizard, switch to nv11:52
trappistwizard: in my experience that's a framebuffer issue, so I disable the framebuffer when I use nvidia drivers11:53
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trappistwizard: by booting with vga=normal option11:53
DaSkreechwizard: sudo apt-get install opensshserver11:54
zarrellihi11:54
flaccidi have a file missing from an installed package which has deps. how can i reinstall/refresh the package by installing missing files?11:54
DaSkreechMidMark: arstechinca had an article on that11:54
wizarddraik: alright its in nv11:54
trappistflaccid: apt-get install --reinstall11:54
flaccidty trappist11:54
draikwizard, any luck with nv?11:54
wizardyup11:55
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wizardnv swwitches runlevels and everything11:55
DaSkreechstartx works?11:55
sexieDaSkreech; can you gimme the irssi command once again. I suppose I wont be logged off if I just reboot.11:55
trappistwizard: I'm curious to see how it works with nvidia and no framebuffer (that works here)11:55
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wizardwell startx didn't work cos x was already up lol11:55
DaSkreechH ah a:)11:55
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flaccidtrappist: command worked, but did not install /init.d/apache2 :(11:56
DaSkreechsexie: have you ever called the ISP and asked for help on a Linux machine?11:57
wizardhow do you kill X on kubuntu?11:57
DaSkreechAlt+Ctrl+Esc and click on the desktop >_<11:57
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MidMarkDaSkreech: do you meand "DJ software for Windows and Mac OS X" ?11:57
sexieDaSkreech; they are all morons. they even force you to install their own anti-virus. I got a work-around for it though.11:58
DaSkreechMidMark: no they did one for linux under linux.ars AIR11:58
flaccidi reinstall it all now i think11:58
DaSkreechMidMark: And they spoke about Jack11:58
MidMarklink?11:58
DaSkreechsexie: Ha ha :) If you have time put up a thread in the forums about it you could be famous11:58
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MidMark?11:59
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wizardi wanna try and install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site on kubuntu12:00
sexieDaSkreech; which forums? I just know the IRC link :P. anyways just seacrh for "sify broadband" and you'll come across a lot of hate messages.12:00
DaSkreechHa ha :)12:00
DaSkreech!forums12:00
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.12:00
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sexie!forums12:01
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.12:01
draiksexie, I called my ISP about 3-4 weeks ago. They d/c'd my connection and so I thought I'd see if they can fix that. The guy tried to help me...12:01
pontinoi all12:01
draikHe told me to click on start.. "I don't use windows"...12:02
pontinoclick start..12:02
draikOh, so you're using a mac?  "No"12:02
pontino:D12:02
draikHere's a bad sign... "What else can you be using?"12:02
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wizardi found a guide i like a little better12:03
sexielol draik12:03
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draikI did my own TSing12:03
flaccid!php > flaccid12:03
sexieThanks for the help. its 3.32 AM saturday. will b back tommorrow err. today :P12:03
draikOK, do you know how to see your ipconfig?  "Yea, it's called ifconfig"12:03
draikbye sexie12:04
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pontino<?php echo "flaccid" ?>12:04
pontino<?php flaccid and 0 or die("DIE!") ?>12:05
pontinobye all12:05
pontino312:05
pontino212:05
pontino112:05
pontinoCLICK12:05
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sexiecan you tell me how to come on irssi? the arguments. will try it. and then shut-down12:05
LjLsexie: just guessing, but perhaps "irssi irc.freenode.org" will do12:06
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draikhttp://www.draikunderlord.com/IRC.pdf12:06
sexiethanks12:06
flaccidmeh12:06
draiksexie, that's the PDF that I created from the class given months ago in #ubuntu-classroom12:06
sexie:D.12:07
memikephow do i switch from using kdm to gdm12:07
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DaSkreechsexie: it's irssi -c irc.freenode.org12:08
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DaSkreechthen you know the /nick and /join commands12:08
DaSkreechHow do you view pdfs in cli?12:09
sexiethanks DaSkreech :D12:09
memikepdoes anyone know how to switch between kdm and gdm???12:09
adCan nyone tell me how to install miranda ? Is it possible ?12:09
DaSkreechsudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm12:09
memikepthx12:09
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DaSkreechMidMark: 0_o12:10
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wizarddraik: i am following a guide to install linux drivers12:12
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