[12:12] <neom> kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso?
[12:12] <fignew> yes
[12:12] <neom> mk
[12:12] <neom> thank you.
[12:13] <fignew> :P
[12:13] <livingdaylight> carlos: sun-java5-jdk ? more recent?
[12:13] <Sh4d0x> hi there
[12:13] <Perham> what should i do?
[12:13] <method|> [17:10]  <Sanne> method|: I remember reading that there are ways to tell alsa which card to use when. I *think* it's controlled by a file ~/asoundrc or similar. That's all I know about it, but it might get you started.
[12:13] <method|> thank you
[12:13] <neom> I kinda wanna dual boot, but as digg said today, I'm one of the 60% who are scared.
[12:13] <Sanne> method|: and this might get you a bit further: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php
[12:13] <carlos> fignew: I did. only 5186 since yesterday is your rep w +18K w/all the extra repositories enabled?
[12:13] <Sanne> method|: you're welcome :)
[12:14] <Perham> i also have ubuntu cd
[12:14] <Perham> can i do something with that or it's the same?
[12:14] <fignew> carlos: nope, I have 18k
[12:15] <fignew> carlos: are there any errors when you apt-get update?
[12:15] <SeicherlBoB> anyone got a clue why my client wont find my AP though the SSIDs are the same?? anyone?
[12:15] <ccc_> neom dont be afraid...just install windows first  !
[12:15] <carlos> livingdaylight: go to www.sun.com and find the most recent ver. (I only see 1.4 due to my rep limitation right now :( )
[12:16] <Sh4d0x> vmware!! :D
[12:16] <neom> The day I put windows on my mac is the day I stop using computers.
[12:16] <SeicherlBoB> hehe
[12:16] <Sh4d0x> neom: respect!!
[12:16] <carlos> fignew: no errors it updates normally
[12:17] <ccc_> ha.... :-))...a thousand appolagys
[12:17] <livingdaylight> carlos: sorry, to hear it :| i think you'll find 1.5 more recent :)
[12:17] <fignew> carlos: do an apt-get search for djbdns-installer
[12:17] <fignew> and see if it shows up
[12:18] <carlos> fignew: It returned: E: Invalid operation search  doing a apt-get search djbdns-installer
[12:18] <fignew> apt-cache
[12:19] <fignew> cache ;)
[12:19] <Perham> please answer me! i've waited for 1 month for the cd's and it's not working! I'm going to be crazy!
[12:19] <carlos> fignew: it returned: djbdns-installer - Source only package for building djbdns
[12:20] <fignew> Perham: did you select the automatic partition option?
[12:20] <Perham> no
[12:20] <fignew> manual right?
[12:20] <Perham> yes
[12:20] <fignew> is it running right now?
[12:20] <neom> My Dr. is Shuttleworth uncle.
[12:21] <josh_> hey
[12:21] <Perham> yes but it shows a big unallocated partition
[12:21] <josh_> anyone need help?
[12:21] <fignew> carlos: then you have multiverse
[12:21] <carlos> fignew: is this good news?
[12:21] <fignew> Perham: is the installer running right now?
[12:22] <Perham> yes
[12:22] <carlos> yes I have everything enabled
[12:22] <fignew> carlos: are you getting the number from adept?
[12:22] <carlos> yes
[12:22] <fignew> Perham: open the command prompt
[12:22] <Perham> ok
[12:22] <fignew> K menu: system; Konsole
[12:22] <fignew> and do whoami
[12:22] <fignew> run 'whoami'
[12:23] <fignew> need to know if you're root
[12:23] <Perham> i'm not root
[12:23] <fignew> ok
[12:23] <fignew> are the harddrives Serial ATA?
[12:23] <fignew> or just normal?
[12:24] <Perham> yes
[12:24] <fignew> SATA?
[12:24] <Perham> sata 2 maxtor
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: you here?
[12:24] <fignew> ok
[12:24] <fignew> ermm run "mount"
[12:24] <fignew> and see if you see any sda/sdb...etc
[12:24] <Perham>  it says only root can do that
[12:24] <fignew> sudo mount
[12:24] <Perham> my drives are mounted as removable drives!
[12:25] <fignew> huh?
[12:25] <fignew> what do you mean?
[12:25] <Perham> now i'm seeing the computer section
[12:25] <carlos> fignew: any suggs?
[12:25] <Perham> my drives are mounted here as removable drives
[12:25] <Perham> like CD or DVD drives
[12:26] <fignew> carlos: close and reopen adept
[12:26] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Yeppers
[12:26] <fignew> and see if the # changes
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: did they ask you in #lfd about the doubleclicking window to min?
[12:26] <Perham> when i click them it says no removable drive t mount
[12:26] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Yep, speaking to him now, thanks
[12:26] <gnomefreak> ok
[12:26] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:27] <Hawkwind> I've got my head buried in a website
[12:27] <Hawkwind> Hah
[12:27] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:27] <gnomefreak> i never tried it but im sure its possible :)
[12:27] <fignew> perham: drive t?
[12:27] <Hawkwind> Yeah, requires editing the themes .edc file I'm pretty sure
[12:27] <fignew> do you mean drive to?
[12:27] <Perham> yes
[12:28] <blind675> hi
[12:28] <blind675> how can i get kdevelop in kubuntu ???
[12:28] <Perham> the old versions of linux (any distro) doesnt read my drives.
[12:28] <Perham> but suse does
[12:29] <fignew> Perham: run: lshw | grep "logical"
[12:29] <Perham> and ukubuntu kdetects all my chipset
[12:29] <Perham> and my hard drive.
[12:29] <Perham> i dont know what s happenning
[12:29] <carlos> fignew: just got a msg saying my adept-db  is locked.
[12:29] <Perham> because it seems it knows my hard,
[12:29] <fignew> meh, it'll work, it's just that this new kubuntu installer is buggy
[12:30] <blind675> how can i get kdevelop in kubuntu ???
[12:30] <blind675> how can i get kdevelop in kubuntu ???
[12:31] <LjL> !kdevelop
[12:31] <fignew> Perham what does lshw | grep "logical" say?
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <fignew> !kdevelop3
[12:32] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[12:32] <m3xican> !roadmap
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roadmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <LjL> fignew: thanks
[12:32] <fignew> :P
[12:32] <LjL> blind675: "sudo apt-get install kdevelop3"
[12:32] <blind675> 10x
[12:33] <fignew> carlos: is apt/adept running
[12:33] <fignew> ?
[12:33] <carlos> not db is locked
[12:33] <method|> how can i find out where my sound card is mounted under /dev/?
[12:33] <blind675> E: Couldn't find package kdevelop3 ?????  now wat
[12:33] <carlos> fignew it returned: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:33] <LjL> blind675: enable universe
[12:34] <LjL> !universe > blind675
[12:34] <fignew> yes, when adept/apt runs, it locks the database so that no other programs can mess with it and mess things up
[12:34] <carlos> but is not running right now
[12:34] <carlos> I tried updating from CL after closing it
[12:35] <fignew> you can do sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[12:35] <fignew> BUT
[12:35] <fignew> I wouldn't recommend doing that
[12:35] <fignew> try running ps aux | grep "apt"
[12:35] <fignew> or grep "dpkg" or grep "adept"
[12:35] <carlos> sorry just did :(
[12:35] <fignew> no worries
[12:36] <fignew> do run those commands though and see if anything is running
[12:36] <LjL> !adept-crash-fix
[12:36] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[12:39] <carlos> thanks ubotu. Just did Adept is now working again. However still seeing only 5186 avail. packgs
[12:39] <fignew> DOH! i ran fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock and it didn't return anythibg
[12:39] <fignew> so I figured it wouldn't help
[12:39] <fignew> don't thank ubotu, thank LjL :P
[12:40] <carlos> Weird thing is that I have all reps enabled
[12:40] <LjL> nah, ubotu is the best of all of us
[12:40] <carlos> ok thanks all :)
[12:40] <carlos> but I'm still short off 17K packages
[12:40] <LjL> carlos: run a "sudo apt-get update" and see if it's still that few
[12:42] <carlos> got this: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[12:42] <LjL> well, that's not an official repository -- you can probably find the keys on the site
[12:42] <LjL> anyway, for now just be concerned with the official main, restricted, universe and multiverse reps
[12:42] <livingdaylight> Anyone use GoogleEarth? Are you finding it stable or did it break anything, and you now stay clear of it?
[12:43] <fignew> livingdaylight: it works fine, provided 3d works fine
[12:43] <fignew> brbrown7
[12:43] <fignew> awww
[12:44] <fignew> there goes my system password :(
[12:44] <livingdaylight> fignew: ok, thx
[12:44] <carlos> ok but my rep is still only 5186 pkgs.
[12:44] <fignew> :-O
[12:44] <livingdaylight> fignew: gnomefreak just put the fear of God in me about it not being stable and what could happen
[12:44] <neom> woo
[12:44] <neom> This is cool.
[12:44] <LjL> carlos: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please, if you haven't already?
[12:45] <fignew> livingdaylight: run glxgears
[12:45] <fignew> and see what that returns in the console
[12:45] <livingdaylight> fignew: i don't hve 3d enabled yet
[12:46] <carlos> LjL: Here is goes:
[12:46] <carlos> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[12:46] <carlos> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[12:46] <carlos> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[12:46] <LjL> !pastebin
[12:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:46] <fignew> livingdaylight: ATI or nivida?
[12:46] <carlos>  ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[12:46] <fignew> nvidia*
[12:46] <carlos>  ## after the final release of the distribution.
[12:46] <carlos> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[12:46] <carlos> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[12:46] <livingdaylight> fignew: nvidia
[12:46] <carlos>  ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[12:46] <carlos>  ## repository.
[12:46] <carlos>  ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[12:46] <carlos>  ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[12:46] <fignew> :thumbsup:
[12:47] <LjL> carlos: please leave the channel and rejoin
[12:47] <carlos>  ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[12:47] <LjL> carlos: you shouldn't flood like this
[12:47] <carlos>  ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[12:47] <carlos>  ## team.
[12:47] <carlos> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[12:47] <carlos> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[12:47] <carlos> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[12:47] <carlos> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[12:47] <fignew> wheeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:47] <carlos> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[12:47] <carlos> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[12:47] <carlos> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse
[12:47] <carlos> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse
[12:47] <carlos> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:47] <carlos> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[12:48] <carlos> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free
[12:48] <carlos> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free
[12:48] <josh_> what are some good 3d linux games
[12:48] <LjL> well, better late than never
[12:48] <josh_> such as americas army
[12:48] <OOD> tremulous
[12:48] <OOD> nexuiz, wolfenstein enemy territory
[12:49] <LjL> carlos: when i said "pastebin", i didn't just mistakingly hit the "b", "i" and "n" keys... :)
[12:49] <nuku> josh_: quake 4, doom 3, enemy territory
[12:49] <LjL> !pastebin
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:49] <Sanne> josh_: http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[12:49] <fignew> josh_: Savage , Nexuiz
[12:49] <LjL> carlos: anyway, looking at your flood, it seems to me that you *should* have universe actually enabled... what does     apt-cache search "" | wc -l     tell you?
[12:49] <carlos> yes I just saw it when re-entering. I'm pasting it there right now.
[12:50] <josh_> for some reason my video card is clocked lower in linux
[12:50] <josh_> like lower than it should
[12:51] <josh_> well the core clock is fine, but the memory is like 120mhz lower than it should
[12:51] <carlos> LjL: It spit out a list of packages
[12:51] <LjL> carlos: erm, did you type the " | wc -l"   part?
[12:52] <carlos> o. did not. Brb with the answer.
[12:53] <carlos> LjL: it returned 5183
[12:53] <LjL> carlos: bah, that's weird... where's the pastebin URL anyway?
[12:54] <VanessaE> evening all.
[12:55] <carlos> LjL: It's paste at the webpage: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26515/
[12:55] <Sanne> hi VanessaE
[12:56] <LjL> carlos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26517/ <-- make it look like so, and then try "sudo apt-get update" again
[01:04] <carlos> LjL: Still getting only 5176
[01:05] <LjL> anyone else cares to look at this sources.list (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26515/), and the way i changed it (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26517/), and why could it be that there's only about 5000 package available after an apt-get update?
[01:07] <fantasai> Heya, I'm having trouble using kfilereplace
[01:07] <fantasai> I can't figure out how to actually replace the strings
[01:07] <fantasai> It finds them all and says it replaced them, but the files haven't changed
[01:07] <fantasai> and the button for "replace" is disabled
[01:09] <calilasseia> Hello everyone ... minor glitch that's annoying me on my Dapper install ...
[01:10] <calilasseia> I have the wallpaper manager set to cycle through a series of images every 5 mins ... when it changes the image, it causes Firefox to refresh the page ...
[01:10] <calilasseia> Is there a reason for this, and how do I stop it happening?
[01:12] <LjL> carlos: wait, i've made a pasting mess with those "#"... use this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26522/
[01:14] <super_noobs> i have some error report about protocol failure when i setup KEEP daemon to start together with KDE, any solution?
[01:15] <super_noobs> heya!!! i need help here
[01:16] <super_noobs>  i have some error report about protocol failure when i setup KEEP daemon to start together with KDE, any solution?
[01:17] <calilasseia> super_noobs, I think we're temporarily on our own ... must be coffee break time for the gurus :)
[01:17] <super_noobs> ops
[01:17] <super_noobs> ooops
[01:18] <fantasai> nm, it just doesn't like empty strings
[01:20] <JimmyGreendog> Post the error report please
[01:23] <riPPerMD> how do i get out of the gui in kubuntu, crtl-alt-f1 doesnt work
[01:23] <OOD> it should
[01:24] <riPPerMD> no go I hit it many times and nothing, is there an alternate way?
[01:24] <calilasseia> riPPerMD: check your keyboard language settings ... I had this problem last night and changing my language settings cured it ....
[01:24] <riPPerMD> ok will do
[01:24] <OOD> you can kill Xorg
[01:25] <OOD> or you can set it so you boot into the CLI instead of the logon screen
[01:25] <calilasseia> If you've installed Kubuntu as British English for example, but you accidentally have US keyboard mapping for some reason as I did, then ctrl-alt-Fn doesn't work ....
[01:26] <calilasseia> This is a particular problem if you upgraded from Breezy to Dapper instead of installing Dapper directly ... the region settings are preserved, but the keyboard language setting goes awry ...
[01:26] <riPPerMD> ok i will give some stuff a try thanks!
[01:27] <calilasseia> Make sure your keyboard mapping matches your regional language setting and that should cure it without having to kill the X server ... if it doesn't, THEN it's time to kil the X server :)
[01:27] <euSunt> Hi all!
[01:27] <tonyr> hello
[01:27] <OOD> hi
[01:27] <calilasseia> Meanwhile, can someone sort out a minor glitch for me?
[01:27] <OOD> depends what it is :)
[01:27] <euSunt> I'm in need of some help:after upgrading kubuntu kmail started to crash when I try to compose a new mail
[01:28] <OOD> upgrading kubuntu?
[01:28] <nicklas> hey! has anyone had problems with cylinder sizes of HDD?
[01:28] <calilasseia> I have the Kubuntu wallpaper manager set to cycle through a collection of images once every 5 mins ... when it changes the image, if I have Firefox running, it causes Firefox to refresh the page ....
[01:28] <euSunt> anyone has any idea of what I could do to find out what's happening to kmail?
[01:29] <OOD> euSunt: did you upgrade to edgy?
[01:30] <euSunt> mmm.. I don't think so.
[01:30] <tonyr> Whesre's gvim for Edgy?  When I try to install vim-gtk with apt-get, it says something like 'no package found', and when I try to install gvim, it says 'selecting vim-gnome instead of gvim' !!
[01:30] <OOD> calilasseia: don't know what's causing that
[01:30] <tonyr> Where's*
[01:30] <nicklas> anyone changed the size of cylinders of his HDD before?! need help, its not working with my hda1
[01:30] <euSunt> OOD: I just did the usual apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:33] <calilasseia> euSunt: check the repositories you obtained your upgrade from ... look at the file /etc/apt/sources.list ...
[01:34] <OOD> tonyr: there is no gvim package for edgy
[01:34] <euSunt> calilasseia: I'm using the portuguese ubuntu mirrors (pt.archive.ubuntu.com)
[01:34] <calilasseia> If the repositories all contain lines such as "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted" then your distro is Dapper ....
[01:34] <euSunt> calilasseia: I'm going to check the file...
[01:35] <calilasseia> If they contain "edgy" instead of "Dapper" then you've upgraded to the experimental Edgy distribution ....
[01:35] <euSunt> calilasseia: it's dapper then
[01:35] <tonyr> OOD: yeow! any particular reason that you know of?
[01:35] <calilasseia> So Kmail is crashing in Dapper? Hang on ...
[01:36] <euSunt> calilasseia: all the entries on the sources.list are for dapper, dapper-secutiry and dapper-comercial (from canonical)
[01:36] <euSunt> calilasseia: yeah. :(
[01:36] <tonyr> gvim for edgy: not done yet? Never gonna be done? Gotta install all that gnome support to use it?
[01:37] <OOD> isn't vim gnome what you're looking for anyway?
[01:37] <calilasseia> euSunt: there's a list of known Dapper bugs in existence ... go here and see if your KMail bug is among them ...
[01:37] <calilasseia> https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+subscribedbugs?start=0
[01:37] <euSunt> ok, going
[01:38] <calilasseia> Only KMail has some issues in certain circumstances .... ESPECIALLY if you're running it on a SPARC CPU!
[01:38] <tonyr> OOD: In Dapper there was a vim-gtk package, but there doesn't seem to be one in edgy
[01:38] <euSunt> calilasseia: a standard, somewhat old, p4 machine
[01:38] <OOD> tonyr: im running edgy, and the vim-gtk package is right there
[01:39] <calilasseia> How old?
[01:39] <tonyr> OOD: OK thanks, must be repo sources error on my end.
[01:40] <euSunt> calilasseia: can't find any similar probelms in the launchpad bug database
[01:40] <euSunt> calilasseia: I'm not even sure.. some 3 or 4 years
[01:40] <calilasseia> You searched through all 533 bug reports??? Wow ....
[01:41] <euSunt> calilasseia: heheh... using search the search button ;)
[01:41] <euSunt> calilasseia: and tried some different keywords, like crash, kmail, new mail, composer,
[01:41] <euSunt> calilasseia: computers are better at searching than I am.
[01:42] <calilasseia> Oh there are some odd issues with KMail apparently, but most of them are on a SPARC apparently ... though I found one odd one  in the list involving PGP ...
[01:42] <nicklas> anyone changed the size of heads of a partition?
[01:42] <calilasseia> That one apparently can be reproduced on any setup ...
[01:43] <rodrigobelo> anyone use FreeBSD?
[01:43] <OOD> nah, i use kubuntu :)
[01:43] <Hawkwind> rodrigobelo: Have you asked in #FreeBSD by chance :P
[01:44] <euSunt> calilasseia: I fond those too. I think I'll try to reboot the machine and see what goes...
[01:44] <euSunt> calilasseia: so I'll be right back.
[01:45] <rodrigobelo> ok, because I'm trying to install in my Dell D510, I got an error message about memory
[01:46] <rodrigobelo> hardware support of FreeBSD is not good
[01:46] <bLaZeD> anyone else have media in firefox stop working about a week ago?....i updated annd now i cant waitch videos from sites like break.com and a bunch of other sites i always went to
[01:50] <foo> I am locking down ubuntu .. can I set perms to 650 on dirs in / ?
[01:52] <calilasseia> 650? Wouldn't that prevent execute/search for yourself?
[01:53] <foo> calilasseia: basically, I am adding a new user and don't want him to see my config stuff in '/etc
[01:54] <unix_infidel> foo: i'd guess the user needs some permissions in /etc right?
[01:54] <unix_infidel> i mean its just inuitive.
[01:55] <foo> I just don't want him to ls /etc
[01:56] <VanessaE> sandbox him
[01:56] <VanessaE> that is, make some kind of chrooted environment
[01:56] <VanessaE> it's safer than trying to futz with permissions in /etc
[01:57] <foo> VanessaE: gah, I have, didn't work
[01:57] <foo> hmm
[01:58] <VanessaE> well, the problem is that there are tons of files in /etc that the user needs access to
[01:58] <VanessaE> anything from /etc/profile to default configs for stuff like opera, you get the idea.
[01:59] <foo> yeah,
[01:59] <foo> hmm
[01:59] <unix_infidel> maybe there's something in bash that can allow you to hide the user shell from performing certain actions?
[01:59] <foo> hmm
[01:59] <calilasseia> If there are specific files you don't want him to look at, chmod the specific files .... provided they're truly private to you and he doesn't need to access them ....
[01:59] <VanessaE> what you could probably do is change the permissions on just the config files you're ...
[01:59] <VanessaE> yeah, like calilasseia just said
[02:00] <calilasseia> Only trouble with that of course, you need to be ABSOLUTLEY sure that the system won't crash if he logs in and is denied access to those files ... as Vanessa said, there's lots of stuff in /etc ne NEEDS access to ...
[02:01] <calilasseia> chmod the wrong files and boom ...
[02:02] <rojikaru> h
[02:03] <rojikaru> j
[02:03] <rojikaru> j
[02:03] <VanessaE> one such file might actually be /etc/passwd  ...  doesn't the user need to be able to read that file for certain things?
[02:03] <VanessaE> break that and...well...things get messy
[02:05] <calilasseia> But isn't /etc/passwd one way encrypted? Not the easiest of files to hack by any means ...
[02:06] <VanessaE> right
[02:06] <VanessaE> but some people get paranoid about that file, just because it says "passwd"
[02:06] <VanessaE> wasn't sure if inf here was one such :)
[02:06] <VanessaE> or rather, foo
[02:07] <calilasseia> Mind you, at one university UNIX installation I saw in the 80s, they had access to the sources so they rewrote the crypt() function to limit the number of calls that could be made in a given time to stop brute force hacking :)
[02:07] <VanessaE> why exactly are you worried about the user having read access to /etc anyway?
[02:08] <calilasseia> Foo appears to have left ...
[02:08] <VanessaE> calilasseia, I think a variant of that is still in place today
[02:08] <VanessaE> oops, so he did
[02:09] <archangel_> sup folks
[02:09] <calilasseia> The joys of having a solo installation ... no unwanted ferreting around on your machine by undeisrables ...
[02:09] <VanessaE> yep
[02:10] <archangel_> is the centrino moble in the same class as the celeron?
[02:10] <calilasseia> I'd hate to have to administer a proper multi user setup ... got a book about this from the people who ran that university installation I just mentioned ...
[02:10] <calilasseia> Archangel, best place to find that out I would suspect would be Intel's website ...
[02:12] <calilasseia> Actually Vanessa, I've still got that book on my bookshelf - really old one dating from 1982 ... "UNIX - The Book" by Banahan & Rutter ...
[02:12] <archangel_> Yeah, but I was in the mood for some hardware chat. I'll look for the appropiate channel
[02:12] <calilasseia> Makes all kinds of comments about scheming undergraduates trying to hack the installation :)
[02:12] <archangel_> thanks
[02:12] <OOD> centrino is a marketing thing from Intel
[02:13] <calilasseia> <--- curls lip and snarls at the mention of the word "marketing" ...
[02:13] <OOD> o.0
[02:13] <archangel_> yeah. I know, I was just wondering if it was the mobile verson of the celeron
[02:14] <calilasseia> Think I'll take my leave ... try and sort out this screen refresh glitch another time ...
[02:14] <calilasseia> Bed is beckoning ... :)
[02:14] <archangel_> celeron sucks soooo bad
[02:14] <OOD> no, centrino means intel cpu, intel chipset, and intel wireless chipset
[02:14] <OOD> it's a marketing scheme basically
[02:14] <OOD> the older centrino's are pentium M's
[02:15] <OOD> while the newer one's a Core Duo's and Solo's
[02:15] <calilasseia> <--- waves farewell and exits stage left ...
[02:15] <obf213> i was listing to amarok and all of a suddne the computer screen went black and all process shutdown, i saw the loading symbol like it was oging to load kdm, but it didnt
[02:15] <obf213> and i was just stuck at a black screen
[02:15] <archangel_> core duo= 2x? i.e. dual core?
[02:16] <obf213> it was like what happens if you force restart of x, except, kdm never showed up
[02:16] <OOD> yeah, the core duo's are dual-core
[02:17] <OOD> obf213: i've had that happen to me before, X isn't perfectly stable
[02:18] <archangel_> what would be a smarter buy? a slower duo or a faster cenrino?
[02:18] <VanessaE> a slower duo, assuming centrino is single-core
[02:18] <VanessaE> you get slightly better responsiveness out of dual cores.
[02:19] <archangel_> see, thats what I was thinking too
[02:19] <OOD> centrino is just a marketting term, hardare vendors can mark their computers as the "Centrino Brand" if the computer has an intel cpu, chipset and wireless
[02:19] <archangel_> 30% faster, I think
[02:20] <archangel_> ahhh gotcha
[02:21] <Perham> fignew: Man i installed it! you're not gonna guess what was the problem!
[02:21] <agaming> I have a quick question(I hope it's quick) about authentication for an apache server
[02:21] <VanessaE> my AMD64x2 3800+ is clocked at 2 GHz, so with the dual cores it performs at, I would say, the level of what a single core AMD64 might do if you could clock it at maybe 4.5 GHz
[02:21] <obf213> ah ok
[02:21] <VanessaE> so just slightly faster but not worth it if the price difference is really big
[02:22] <agaming> I have it setup with auth_sys_group mod and it asks for the u/p but just keeps asking if you put in the info. Any ideas why this might be bouncing that back
[02:22] <OOD> 4.5? that's more than double
[02:23] <agaming> We have put in the appropriate information into the httpd.conf file to enable the mod but it still doesn't seem to be working
[02:24] <archangel_> So, I guess the 2x has more info passing through at maybe just a little higher mhz?
[02:25] <archangel_> giving the effect of a much higher mhz
[02:25] <VanessaE> OOD: indeed it is - dual cores give you slightly better than double the clock speed of the CPU
[02:25] <VanessaE> the .5 might be a little optimistic, but you get the idea
[02:26] <OOD> er, dual-core doesn't even double the performance, 90% gains is already pretty optimistic depending on the app
[02:26] <VanessaE> I assume it has to do with context switching or memory access, both of which are enhanced with dual cores (and appropriate ram)
[02:26] <VanessaE> 90% gains on a single app, maybe, but I'm talking about the system as a whole
[02:26] <archangel_> wow, 2x is the way to go then, for sure
[02:27] <VanessaE> two programs running at full bore should get just a hint better performance on dual cores than you would get on a single core of twice the MHz
[02:27] <VanessaE> like I said, that extra .5 MHz is probably way too much, it's just a guess
[02:27] <OOD> that would be because 2 cpu's parallelize better than 1
[02:27] <VanessaE> exactly.
[02:27] <VanessaE> that's what I was getting at
[02:30] <thiago_> nyn
[02:31] <thiago_> nousingres
[02:31] <thiago_> aussi
[02:44] <benkong2> yo
[02:45] <benkong2> anyone here?
[02:45] <ubuntu> buenas
[02:45] <ubuntu> spanis?
[02:46] <Hawkwind> !es
[02:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:46] <bkudria> when i launch konqueror using alt-f2, i get the following error "/usr/lib/libkhtml.so.4: undefined symbol", and then konq crashes....launching it from konsole is fine.  how do i fix it?
[02:51] <CainMadness> Having trouble installing a HP Deskjet 932c printer. Won't work when installed in Windows, and simply refuses to install in Kubuntu. Help?
[02:52] <Felipe_> dfsfdsf
[02:55] <_russ> #lua
[02:56] <win_x_prts> join #lua
[02:56] <_russ> focus problem :)
[02:57] <CainMadness> Having trouble installing a HP Deskjet 932c printer. Won't work when installed in Windows, and simply refuses to install in Kubuntu. Help? I have it plugged in by USB connection. Detects it, doesn't want to install/work though.
[02:57] <win_x_prts> _russ, what is lua?
[02:58] <_russ> a programming language
[02:58] <_russ> lua.org
[02:58] <_russ> commonly integrated into game engines
[02:58] <win_x_prts> ahhhhh
[02:58] <win_x_prts> thanks
[02:59] <_russ> yer welcome
[03:03] <carlos> Hello
[03:03] <bkudria> when i launch konqueror using alt-f2, i get the following error "/usr/lib/libkhtml.so.4: undefined symbol", and then konq crashes....launching it from konsole is fine.  how do i fix it?
[03:03] <carlos> Still needing help w/adept reps.
[03:05] <carlos> My adept shows only 5176 avail. pkgs with all repos enabled
[03:06] <carlos> someone, please help
[03:07] <Hawkwind> !repos > carlos
[03:09] <Momal> does anyone use vmware and use the harddrive that sets to dual boot kubuntu(pc running vmware) and another os?
[03:12] <mr_daemon> Hey, I just upgraded to KDE 3.5.5 today, now I can't login. It hangs at "configuring devices" (or whatever that is in english) during the splash screen and then dies back to kdm... any idea?
[03:13] <_russ> i ran  a dual boot win/kubuntu, and could mount the kubuntu under vmware
[03:13] <magic> holq
[03:13] <magic> spanish?
[03:13] <carlos> !repos
[03:13] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:14] <magic> hi i install cedega software but when i go to run steam client cedega crash why??
[03:14] <Dink> !es
[03:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:15] <magic> all install of steam run well but when i run the program crash
[03:15] <magic> ok
[03:16] <Momal> How can I give a user ability to access /dev/hda* ? I have tried adding the root group to it but doesn't seem to work :S... I require it to beable to get vmware to use physical hd
[03:16] <Momal> If I run vmware under root user it works fine.
[03:19] <daver2u> anyone know how to change the java command to goto the jre java not gij java after I install jre
[03:21] <ricanelite> Hello, All i need some help! I'm a Linux Newbie just started using Ubuntu Linux and I need help installing Java and Flash, Can someone help me out
[03:21] <CVirus> !java
[03:21] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:21] <CVirus> !flash
[03:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:21] <CVirus> ricanelite: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=16846
[03:21] <CVirus> oops
[03:21] <CVirus> wrong link
[03:22] <CVirus> ricanelite: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:23] <linux_galore> CVirus: I find it amazing that people ask those questions, when I swapped to kubuntu I found all the answers thanks to google.com/linux
[03:23] <warpzone> linux_galore: lucky you, I was even more clueless
[03:23] <CVirus> new linux users dont have the FGI sense yet
[03:24] <warpzone> linux_galore: ever seen a newb try to compile from source? took a couple reinstalls to figure that one out
[03:24] <linux_galore> warpzone: lol
[03:24] <ricanelite> i type in the sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin and i get this error message E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[03:24] <linux_galore> warpzone: I did my first kernel compile undr vmware
[03:24] <CVirus> !universe
[03:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:24] <CVirus> ricanelite: ^
[03:25] <warpzone> ricanelite: try using the package manager so you dont have to guess. just search for java
[03:25] <CVirus> ricanelite: please read the links I have you already
[03:25] <CVirus> gave*
[03:25] <linux_galore> ricanelite: the first step is you have to add some extra repositories or kubuntu hanst got a clue were the packages are on the web
[03:26] <linux_galore> ricanelite: then you install flash/java  but with java you have to run a setup command
[03:26] <linux_galore> after you install the packages
[03:26] <CVirus> linux_galore: you could just give him the links
[03:26] <ricanelite> wait im confuse, lol
[03:26] <ricanelite> I'm sorry guys!
[03:27] <Hawkwind> ricanelite: Read the links above.  It tells you step by step what to do
[03:27] <linux_galore> ricanelite: ok, kubuntu hasnt got a clue were anything is right now because you haven pointed the package manager to any optional package (repositories) servers
[03:28] <linux_galore> ricanelite: you have to add them with adept
[03:28] <Hawkwind> linux_galore: IIRC he did that last night actually
[03:28] <ricanelite> okay i have Adept Manager open
[03:28] <ricanelite> what do i have to add?
[03:29] <Momal> how to give a user permission to control /dev/hda* ?
[03:29] <ricanelite> im reading this intructions and it says you have to find the line and the line??
[03:29] <ricanelite> what suppose to be on the line?
[03:30] <ricanelite> is it "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  and deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[03:31] <mr_daemon> Hey, is it me or kde 3.5.5 is borked?
[03:31] <Momal> 3.5.5 is fine here
[03:31] <warpzone> ricanelite: hey, howzabout I give you my sources.list to use for now, then you can look and it and understand it better
[03:31] <mr_daemon> Mine broke during the upgrade, complained about a wrong dependency on kdelibs-data 3.5.5
[03:31] <ricanelite> i guess!!
[03:32] <mr_daemon> So I just installed that, and then relaunched the upgrade
[03:32] <ricanelite> I'm learning as I go and all these lines and commands are nuts, lol
[03:32] <ricanelite> im sorry!
[03:32] <mr_daemon> But now it's sort of screwy, korganizer won't work anymore and it will not log in the first time
[03:32] <warpzone> ricanelite: hey no prob I understand, been through the same
[03:32] <ricanelite> okay
[03:32] <Momal> ricanelite: you have to start somewhere so don't worry about it :)
[03:33] <ricanelite> thanks! and I want volunteer and help out the community, i dont see that happening anytime soon
[03:33] <warpzone> alrighty, first up, do this "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup"
[03:33] <warpzone> ricanelite: ^
[03:33] <ricanelite> and its funnie cause my next question was is it possible to get my ipod working on Ubuntu
[03:33] <mr_daemon> is there a not so annoying way to go back to 3.4, easily, apart from guessing the packages names from dpkg.log and switching repositories?
[03:33] <mr_daemon> erm
[03:33] <ricanelite> this is going into the Terminal???
[03:33] <warpzone> ricanelite: so you backup your sources in case something happens
[03:33] <mr_daemon> I mean 3.5.4
[03:33] <warpzone> ricanelite: oops yeah terminal it is
[03:34] <ricanelite> with the quotes?
[03:34] <Hawkwind> No
[03:34] <warpzone> ricanelite ack ack no quotes
[03:34] <ricanelite> okay
[03:34] <warpzone> :-P
[03:35] <ricanelite> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[03:35] <ricanelite> so i will enter it just like that
[03:35] <Momal> yes
[03:35] <ricanelite> ok
[03:35] <warpzone> ricanelite: something handy to use is tab completion
[03:35] <ricanelite> okay it took me right back to ricanelite@ubuntu:~$
[03:35] <ricanelite> ok
[03:36] <warpzone> right, cp is copy, you made a copy of the file in case of emergencies
[03:36] <ricanelite> okay
[03:36] <ricanelite> got you
[03:36] <warpzone> ricanelite: next, "ls /etc/apt"
[03:36] <warpzone> ricaelite: jsut double check, make sure both the list and the bakcup are there
[03:37] <ricanelite> yes it is label as souces.list.backup
[03:37] <warpzone> ricanelite: okay, next type "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:38] <mr_daemon> Okay so, technically -- unless someone has a better idea -- what I could is, obtain a list of all the kde packages that were upgraded by doing something like...
[03:38] <warpzone> ricaelite: that should open sources.list in kate, correct?
[03:38] <ricanelite> okay a window came up label as sources.list-Kate
[03:38] <warpzone> cool
[03:38] <mr_daemon> cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep 2006-10-12 | grep unpacked | awk '{ print $5 }' | uniq > packages_kde.txt
[03:38] <ricanelite> yes
[03:39] <warpzone> ricanelite: now, clear the file and replace it with this
[03:39] <warpzone> ricanelite: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/200253
[03:39] <mr_daemon> Switching repositories for the older kde, remove the packages with the package list I just generated, and then install the 'new' packages...right?
[03:39] <ricanelite> so i delete everything there
[03:39] <warpzone> ricanelite: but remove the line numbers, those arent part of the file
[03:40] <warpzone> ricanelite: clear the file and replace it with what I have as the sources.list, but remove the line numbers
[03:40] <ricanelite> okay done
[03:41] <ricanelite> Save it?
[03:41] <warpzone> ricanelite: okay, save the file, then back in the terminal, type "sudo apt-get update"
[03:41] <ricanelite> i think it is working
[03:42] <warpzone> ricanelite: just make sure there aren't any errors in the output
[03:42] <ricanelite> i got this message at the end  E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:43] <warpzone> ricanelite: hmm lemme do the same, one sec
[03:43] <ricanelite> okay
[03:44] <warpzone> ricanelite: hmm I didn't get that, which ones failed to update? it should say under them if you scroll up
[03:45] <ricanelite> blognux.free.fr/debian/
[03:45] <ricanelite> dists/unstable/main/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz
[03:45] <ricanelite>   404 Not Found
[03:45] <ricanelite> a like about 4 or 5 more
[03:45] <ricanelite> asher256-repository.tux family.org/dists/ubuntu/french/binary-powerpc
[03:46] <ricanelite> asher256-repository.tux                  family.org/dists/ubuntu/dupdate/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[03:46] <warpzone> ricanelite: eh if its all powepc who cares
[03:46] <ricanelite> okay
[03:46] <ricanelite> most of them are
[03:46] <warpzone> ricanelite: probably just had a problem connecting, no biggie
[03:46] <ricanelite> okay
[03:47] <warpzone> ricanelite: so now you oughta be able to install the packages you wanted
[03:47] <Momal> How to give a user permission to control /dev/hda* (So I can get VMware to use a physical Harddrive)?
[03:47] <warpzone> just open adept and search for what you wanted, or use "sudo apt-get install xxxxx" in the terminal, whatever floats your boat
[03:48] <warpzone> Momal: chown?
[03:48] <Momal> tried that... but vmworkstation just says doesnt' have permission to access :S
[03:48] <Momal> when i run vmworkstation under root access it gets it fine :S
[03:48] <Momal> even tried adding the user to all the groups as well :S
[03:49] <warpzone> Momal: hmm, I dont know anything about wmware, want to get it though
[03:49] <warpzone> Momal: sounds like it has something to do with the wmware install, though what I dont know
[03:49] <ricanelite> do i have to download sun-java5-source?
[03:50] <Momal> it said in the help for it to make sure the user has permission to it... so yea...will have to try few more ways if nothing works i'll just run it as root
[03:50] <warpzone> ricanelite: nope nope those are just the source packages, no need
[03:50] <warpzone> ricanelite: why are you downloading java? are you a programmer or do you want it for other applications?
[03:51] <Momal> you can get vmplayer which is free... and the 30day trial of workstation should suit you since after 30days you can run it and create the virtual machine files.. then just run them in the free player :).. and thats legal because the workstation only stops you from running them after 30days and their vmplayer is free :)
[03:51] <ricanelite> well i need Java 5 for a application
[03:51] <warpzone> Momal: holy crap I'm on it, thanks
[03:51] <ricanelite> now where it says Requested under it labels Break (Install) in red
[03:52] <warpzone> ricanelite: damn I'm in gnome ATM, or I'd know what that meant
[03:52] <ricanelite> so no good?
[03:52] <ricanelite> lol
[03:52] <warpzone> ricanelite: just so you know, if anything you install depends on java, it will install it for you, no need to do it seperately
[03:53] <archangel_> any easy ubuntu people in here?
[03:53] <ricanelite> well the application im trying to use for work only runs if Java is installed
[03:53] <ricanelite> Does Easyubuntu Software come with a Java Install?
[03:53] <archangel_> yes
[03:53] <archangel_> and it works
[03:53] <Hawkwind> archangel_: Try #EasyUbuntu ?
[03:54] <Hawkwind> I'm not sure if there are any here or not.
[03:54] <archangel_> yeah I have a habit of not going there
[03:54] <archangel_> they are less friendly
[03:54] <warpzone> ricanelite: theres always the unofficial ubuntu starter guide
[03:54] <Hawkwind> Well if you need their help, then that would be the place.  They'll be friendly here just like there
[03:54] <ricanelite> well they will hate me then, because i have no idea what im doing
[03:54] <archangel_> but maybe someone with some personality is there now. I must not give up hope I guess
[03:54] <warpzone> ricanelite: its how I learned to install stuff
[03:55] <archangel_> lol
[03:55] <ricanelite> just trying to please myself so i could miss windows and os x
[03:55] <archangel_> know what you mean
[03:55] <archangel_> Windows has REALLY turned me off
[03:55] <ricanelite> security has me alittle nutty
[03:55] <archangel_> but it IS easier to use
[03:55] <ricanelite> yes i will like to try the new windows vista but security is my main concern right now
[03:56] <coreymon77> use vmware then
[03:56] <warpzone> archangel_: that changes, I can't use windows for crap now, its seriously redundant, sloppy, and counterintuiive
[03:56] <coreymon77> try it out on a vm but use kubuntu mainly
[03:56] <coreymon77> as your real os
[03:56] <ricanelite> and being that Apple is becoming more user friendly, i have a feeling sercurity and viruses are going to becoming more known there
[03:56] <ricanelite> dont know though
[03:56] <Momal> I think the only reason why people fine linux/ubuntu harder then windows is because they aren't used to the freedom of been able to change basically everything and have freedom in everything they want to install
[03:56] <ricanelite> yeah i just finish doing the update for Ubuntu 6
[03:57] <archangel_> warpzone: I hope so, I love linux, but is really hard to get used to
[03:57] <coreymon77> and the freedom to muck everything up absolutely royally too! :P
[03:57] <Momal> windows: choose between software b and d (a & c are auto installed) | linux: choose what you want from a b c or d (please note b requires c to install)
[03:57] <archangel_> warpzone: although I have virtually got my whole family using it now
[03:57] <archangel_> warpzone: lol
[03:57] <warpzone> archangel: it took me about to months before I wasn't reverting back to windows for importaant stuff
[03:57] <Frederick> folks wich is the right package for mame?
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Frederick: apt-cache search mame
[03:58] <warpzone> archangel_: the easiest way to learn, read the ubuntu forums, the ubuntu wiki, the unofficial starter guide, and ask questions here
[03:58] <coreymon77> apt-cache search is your best friend frederik
[03:58] <warpzone> archangel_: if you have patience, it's well worth it
[03:59] <Momal> apt-file is a nifty command as well if your looking for a certain file in packages :)
[03:59] <Hawkwind> I installed Linux 4+ years ago for the first time, dual booted.  10 days later I did a re-install, wiped Windows and never ran the OS again
[03:59] <coreymon77> the faster you learn that frederick, the better
[03:59] <warpzone> archangel_: a hint, though, don't use automatix. I don't know why people go batty over it but I can't stand it.
[03:59] <archangel_> I make cd and dvd's for a tv show. but i have to keep going back to window$ to make the lables for them
[03:59] <Frederick> Hawkwind: there are many hits
[04:00] <Hawkwind> Frederick: Only 11
[04:00] <archangel_> never heard of them
[04:00] <Hawkwind> archangel_: Keep it that way then :P
[04:00] <warpzone> archangel_: check out tovid and tovid-gui, DVDStyler, and mandvd
[04:00] <coreymon77> the problem about linux though is that you have the complete power to muck everything up so royally beyond repair that its unbelievable
[04:01] <archangel_> do you recommend a lable program or is there any worth it?
[04:01] <archangel_> oh I see ya
[04:01] <coreymon77> you gotta be very careful not to accidentally type rm-rf in the wrong spot
[04:01] <warpzone> coreymon77: you do in windows too, just try removing a hotfix
[04:01] <archangel_> ok I will try them
[04:01] <Hawkwind> archangel_: Or devede.  It's much faster than tovid
[04:01] <Hawkwind> archangel_: http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[04:01] <linux_galore> same here installed Linux 8 years ago, wiped windows 6 months later, then went and did my LPIC 101/201
[04:02] <coreymon77> somehow, suse "accidentally" deleted my home directory
[04:02] <coreymon77> major messup\
[04:02] <coreymon77> :P
[04:02] <BonBonTheJon> Frederick: did you get mame installed
[04:02] <linux_galore> ?? Ive never deleted my /home
[04:02] <warpzone> coreymon: thats becaue suse... hmm can't say anything appropriate for here. I HATE suse
[04:03] <Momal> good tip for new people: never run "sudo rm -rf" or "rm -rf" loged in as root no matter where you are lol.
[04:03] <Frederick> oh nvermind folks
[04:03] <archangel_> I have two hard drives 250 gig each. one with linux the other with windows. I havent put the other one in since I have ran linux
[04:03] <coreymon77> momal: ill say! :P
[04:03] <Momal> hehe
[04:03] <archangel_> I like it that much, but sometimes its the little things that tick me off
[04:03] <Hawkwind> Momal: Probably best to not even mention those commands.  That way users don't even ask or attempt them wondering what they do
[04:03] <coreymon77> especially when using suse linux
[04:04] <linux_galore> archangel_: wine/codeweavers to the recue
[04:04] <coreymon77> no
[04:04] <linux_galore> rescue*
[04:04] <Momal> Hawkwind: good point :p... in lots of howtos and that they always use it >_<
[04:04] <coreymon77> vmware to the rescue (for desperate measures)
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Momal: That's because you use them with certain things after it.  It's safe to use if you know what you're doing
[04:05] <linux_galore> vmware doesnt support 3D though
[04:05] <archangel_> dude I have no idea what the line meant
[04:05] <archangel_> LOL
[04:05] <archangel_> wine? codeweavers?
[04:05] <coreymon77> if you install vmware tools on to the vm before your workstation trial runs out it does
[04:05] <warpzone> wine runs windows progs in linux, not an emulator though
[04:06] <archangel_> ahh
[04:06] <coreymon77> exactly
[04:06] <coreymon77> Wine Is Not an Emulator
[04:06] <linux_galore> archangel_: wine/codeweavers lets you install and run windows apps in Linux without installing windows, the later (codeweavers) being a easier to use $$$ version of wine
[04:06] <warpzone> if you say its an emulator everybody will break down the acronym for you
[04:06] <coreymon77> thats what wine stands for
[04:06] <archangel_> its a software platform?
[04:06] <Hawkwind> Momal: BTW, I just did your approval for my LFD forums :)
[04:07] <ricanelite> okay look check this out! when I try to install sun-java5-jre I get "The following packages have unresolvable dependencies"
[04:07] <linux_galore> archangel_: no its a implementation of the windows api that can be run in Linux for windows apps
[04:07] <coreymon77> plus, codeweavers crossover office allows more programs to work according to my experience
[04:07] <Momal> Hawkwind: oo lol.. I signed up was like what the hell might come in handy later :D Its in my favs to look to everynow and again :)
[04:08] <Momal> Does anyone here use cedaga and think its pretty good ?
[04:08] <archangel_> ok
[04:08] <coreymon77> cedega doesnt work
[04:08] <linux_galore> yeah I use codeweavers, got everything I want working even flash 9 in firefox
[04:08] <coreymon77> plus it requires a subscription fee
[04:08] <Momal> any free alternative that works ?
[04:08] <coreymon77> it advertizes that warcraft 3 works perfectly, like native
[04:09] <coreymon77> i try it
[04:09] <archangel_> does debian take the tar.bz2 files?
[04:09] <coreymon77> doesnt work
[04:09] <coreymon77> ya
[04:09] <coreymon77> wine or vmware
[04:09] <archangel_> (at the devede site)
[04:09] <coreymon77> vmware is for desperate measures
[04:09] <Momal> it wont work in vmware due to really bad 3d support only has basic 2d support
[04:09] <linux_galore> archangel_: grab codeweavers 5.01 of bittorrent if it works go pay them for a years subscription
[04:10] <coreymon77> momal, look
[04:10] <linux_galore> archangel_: that way you get updates
[04:10] <archangel_> ok
[04:10] <coreymon77> vmware workstation has a little feature called vmware tools
[04:10] <archangel_> never understood bit torrent, is it basicly like kazaa?
[04:11] <linux_galore> archangel_: yes
[04:11] <warpzone> what the? brb cat stole my notepad, ricanelite I wrote you, check it out
[04:11] <archangel_> ok
[04:11] <coreymon77> this little thing allows you to install something on to your virtual machine (after you are done installing windowze) which greatly increases graphics capability and allows for decent 3d
[04:11] <flaccid> BT is a tottally different protocol/model
[04:11] <linux_galore> archangel_: but unlike kazaa its an open standard
[04:11] <archangel_> gotcha
[04:11] <coreymon77> install that through the workstation before the trial expires
[04:11] <coreymon77> and there you have it, 3d support
[04:11] <linux_galore> archangel_: install ktorrent
[04:12] <coreymon77> linux: bittorrent is in not at all like kazaa
[04:12] <coreymon77> completely different
[04:12] <linux_galore> coreymon77: I know
[04:12] <coreymon77> the way bittorrent works is different from any p2p program, emule, kazaa, limwire etc
[04:12] <linux_galore> coreymon77: dont complicate things for newbies
[04:12] <Momal> how much 3d support ?... | this guy I was talking to the other said he was running F.E.A.R under windows in vmware fine? lieing or truth?
[04:13] <coreymon77> momal: truth
[04:13] <archangel_> I have it
[04:13] <archangel_> running it now
[04:13] <coreymon77> wc3 works fine, once you have the vmware tools installed
[04:13] <linux_galore> archangel_: in ktorrent you can search or stuff
[04:13] <linux_galore> for*
[04:14] <Momal> amazing... well now i just have to get vmware to read my hd and boot into the windows part of my harddrive
[04:14] <warpzone> archangel_: actually I would stay awake from ktorrent for now, and use azureus despite its bloat. ktorrent just doesnt have the DHT capabilities torrenting requires
[04:15] <coreymon77> momal, cant do that
[04:15] <warpzone> archangel_: I'm hoping a standard emerges soon
[04:15] <linux_galore> codeweavers 6 supports the windows version of WoW "with sound"
[04:15] <coreymon77> you gotta install windoze sepeerately onto the vm
[04:15] <archangel_> so I need to install azureus?
[04:15] <warpzone> linux_galore: you can't get WoW sound in with wine?
[04:16] <linux_galore> warpzone: not right now
[04:16] <coreymon77> you can in vmware
[04:16] <coreymon77> may be a little slow
[04:16] <coreymon77> but it will work
[04:16] <warpzone> archangel_: yeah, you'll have faster downloading rates
[04:16] <archangel_> ok
[04:17] <archangel_> where do I get it?
[04:17] <coreymon77> vmware?
[04:17] <warpzone> sudo apt-get install azureus :-P
[04:17] <archangel_> ahh ok
[04:17] <linux_galore> archangel_:  thinks its  azureus.org
[04:17] <linux_galore> oh yeah its in the repo
[04:17] <linux_galore> aaah but its an older version
[04:18] <warpzone> linux_galore: yeah but I'm lazy and <3 repos
[04:18] <archangel_> installing
[04:18] <archangel_> man this pc is lightning
[04:19] <coreymon77> archangel_: no, linux is lightning
[04:19] <linux_galore> to be honest I use azureus
[04:19] <coreymon77> install doze on the thing, it will be as slow as anything
[04:19] <archangel_> ok installed
[04:20] <archangel_> how do I run it now?
[04:20] <archangel_> cant find it in my menu
[04:21] <warpzone> its under "internet"
[04:21] <warpzone> or just type "azureus"
[04:22] <linux_galore> archangel_: you will have to go to a torrent search site and look for what you want, then copy the link for the torrent (right click-> copy link) and then swap to azureus, on the top right click on the file, click on the add url button
[04:23] <linux_galore> file icon sorry in azureus
[04:23] <archangel_> I cant just go to the file directory and copy the icon?
[04:23] <linux_galore> archangel_: make sure you double check were azureus is saving the file before you click on ok, nothing more annoying that not being able to find what you downloaded
[04:24] <archangel_> yeah I know what you mean there
[04:24] <archangel_> sorry maybe I just dont understand what you were saying a minute ago
[04:25] <linux_galore> archangel_: it should be in your menu or create a link on your desktop to it  usually under /usr/bin/azureus
[04:25] <archangel_> I just installed codeweaver. how do I run it
[04:25] <archangel_> cool
[04:25] <archangel_> ok
[04:25] <linux_galore> archangel_: ooh you have the file ??
[04:26] <archangel_> I have it and installed it
[04:26] <linux_galore> archangel_: how did you install it
[04:26] <archangel_> I just couldnt find the icon in my menu
[04:26] <archangel_> sudo something something
[04:26] <flaccid> archangel_: did you pay for it ?
[04:26] <archangel_> sudo apt-get install azureus
[04:26] <archangel_> that
[04:27] <OOD> there's a 60 day beta version
[04:27] <linux_galore> archangel_: ooh that not codeweavers thats the azureus bt client
[04:27] <Hawkwind> flaccid: It's available from apt-get
[04:27] <archangel_> sorry not codeweaver,
[04:27] <archangel_> my bad
[04:27] <archangel_> lol
[04:27] <flaccid> Hawkwind: crossover office is?
[04:27] <linux_galore> archangel_: should be under Internet
[04:27] <archangel_> ok
[04:28] <linux_galore> archangel_: in your main menu
[04:28] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Ah no.  But I have a deb of it here
[04:28] <flaccid> Hawkwind: right.
[04:28] <Hawkwind> 5.0.1-1 to be exact
[04:28] <flaccid> i bought it too
[04:28] <Hawkwind> I was thinking you were asking about azureus
[04:28] <archangel_> akregater?
[04:29] <flaccid> nah [2006-10-13 13:25]  <archangel_> I just installed codeweaver. how do I run it
[04:29] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Heh, I didn't buy it actually
[04:29] <linux_galore> yeah I have 3 licenses for codeweavers for were I work
[04:29] <archangel_> not in menu
[04:30] <linux_galore> archangel_: type azureus in a terminal
[04:30] <coreymon77> ya neither this i
[04:30] <coreymon77> i confess
[04:30] <coreymon77> i used emule
[04:30] <linux_galore> archangel_: or create a link on your desktop
[04:31] <archangel_> wow sweet splash
[04:31] <archangel_> hey I get a splash screen and it goes away and thats it
[04:32] <flaccid> azureues goes into the internet menun in kmenu
[04:32] <archangel_> no program
[04:32] <archangel_> not there
[04:33] <archangel_> I cant see it running in the backgraound if it is
[04:33] <flaccid> is java installed?
[04:33] <archangel_> yeah
[04:33] <flaccid> run from a terminal and see errout
[04:34] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to change the text color on the panel?
[04:34] <archangel_> ohh I see the prob
[04:34] <archangel_> X error
[04:34] <archangel_> bad device
[04:34] <archangel_> failed to open device
[04:35] <flaccid> !baddevice > archangel_
[04:35] <flaccid> could just be that ^^
[04:35] <Hawkwind> Hah, I was just posting that URL for baddevice on my forums to a user on the mailing list
[04:36] <flaccid> Hawkwind: hehe. has wacom been removed from xorg for edgy?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Nope
[04:37] <flaccid> what can we do to make that happen?
[04:39] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Not real sure to be honest.  Maybe put something on an agenda for one of the meetings so it can be discussed
[04:39] <unix_infidel> flaccid: a lot of people use wacom, i dont see how its adversely affecting your daily usage.
[04:40] <unix_infidel> other than just being an unsightly section in xorg.conf.
[04:40] <shadowhywind> anyone know how to change the color of the font on the panel?
[04:41] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: He's talking about the error messages that fill your terminal when you run commands
[04:41] <Hawkwind> Everytime you run an app and your terminal fills with 150+ lines of errors because of wacom, it's an issue
[04:41] <flaccid> unix_infidel: can you explain why its added by default?
[04:41] <Healot> moin
[04:41] <Hawkwind> No other distro puts wacom stuff in xorg.conf by default
[04:41] <flaccid> the xorg configure program detects hardware and puts in xorg.conf
[04:41] <flaccid> it is an optimised file
[04:42] <flaccid> there is no reason to put default devices in it
[04:42] <Hawkwind> Exactly
[04:42] <flaccid> as we know the normal user freaks out with these messages despite being maligment
[04:42] <Hawkwind> Having wacom in your xorg.conf when you have no wacom doesn't make sense
[04:42] <flaccid> so it looks bad for ubuntu!
[04:42] <unix_infidel> flaccid: i cannot explain WHY its there, i'm just saying a lot of media people that use wacom devices, if they generate a xorg.conf file based on the hardware present then that would be totally different.
[04:42] <flaccid> unix_infidel: thats the idea. like i said above
[04:42] <unix_infidel> definately an item for inspection in the agenda.
[04:43] <flaccid> it is based on hardware present
[04:43] <flaccid> eg. it detects your vid card
[04:44] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Every distro generates the xorg.conf file by file present during the install of the system.  Name one distro that doesn't do it this way ?
[04:44] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: some distro's require you to create your own xorg.conf.
[04:45] <flaccid> hehe
[04:45] <flaccid> sounds like 1992
[04:45] <flaccid> :)
[04:45] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Which ones ?
[04:45] <unix_infidel> I meant to say that if they put the wacom entry in by default without hardware detection that's a nother issue.
[04:45] <Hawkwind> I certainly do know of any modern distros that require that
[04:45] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: archlinux for one. LFS believe would.
[04:45] <flaccid> unix_infidel: that is the issue at hand  ;)
[04:45] <Hawkwind> LFS isn't a 'distro' so to speak either
[04:45] <Hawkwind> archlinux doesn't require it either anymore
[04:46] <dennister> hi pps
[04:46] <flaccid> hey dennister
[04:46] <unix_infidel> flaccid: i could stipulate that the settings that are generated via hardware detection arent optimal.  but that's just a stipulaton not a postulation.
[04:47] <dennister> apologies in advance if this is off-topic, does anyone here still run XP, and has anyone been locked out of it due to wpa nonsense?
[04:47] <flaccid> well it is an optimised file due the the hardware detection
[04:47] <flaccid> dennister: yes
[04:47] <flaccid> pm me denn
[04:48] <Healot> dennister: the access to the AP or the Windows account?
[04:48] <dennister> i don't use a pm
[04:48] <dennister> my son's second drive just died, and now wpa won't let me into pc at all
[04:48] <flaccid> its off topic
[04:49] <dennister> yes, i'll take it elsewhere if I knew where to go
[04:49] <flaccid> if you don't want help in my pm, try ##windows
[04:49] <dennister> ##windows
[04:51] <dennister> flaccid: i don't even have a pm account...it's been years
[04:51] <flaccid> you don't need a pm account
[04:52] <rkrueger> I tried installing the 'crystal' theme from kdelook.org, it's the most popular some someone here probably has it, but when I try to build from source using ./configure it fails: checking build system type... Invalid configuration `i686-pc-linux-': machine `i686-pc-linux' not recognized
[04:52] <rkrueger> any clues?
[04:53] <Hawkwind> dennister: PM = Private Message
[04:53] <Hawkwind> dennister: Just do: /query flaccid  and then type in that tab that opens up
[04:56] <Lunar_Raven> !ntfs
[04:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:57] <flaccid> yay i just got banned from windows
[04:57] <flaccid> err #windows
[04:57] <Lunar_Raven> !fuse
[04:57] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:57] <unix_infidel> flaccid: congratulations, maybe you should paste the logs for everyone.
[04:58] <flaccid> nah its too lame
[04:58] <unix_infidel> but then, that'd be off topic, again :)
[04:58] <dennister> flaccid: i'm not getting anywhere
[04:58] <flaccid> i can see that
[04:58] <dennister> i think i'm just too disheartened
[04:58] <flaccid> google...
[04:59] <flaccid> sorry to be off topic, but i hacked wga without any assistance. i have a win xp box next to me. the xp install is 4 years and is latest updates and wga removed.
[05:04] <dennister> i never let wga notify onto my son's pc at all -- not after i got my first false positive on this pc...and it's precisely why i'm learning linux
[05:05] <unix_infidel> dennister: please do /j ##windows
[05:05] <unix_infidel> there you will find the proper assistance.
[05:06] <dennister> ok, this time it worked; first time i tried going elswhere it didn't work properly
[05:07] <VanessaE> dennister: and THAT is precisely why I have stuck with Linux for so long - Windows just can't be trusted.
[05:08] <denisbr> Hi, I installed the Kubuntu, but, durating the boot, the screen is black, How I resolve this ?
[05:08] <Healot> VanessaE: it's not; but I found Windows is fun to play with
[05:08] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: I gave dennister the answer already actually
[05:08] <VanessaE> eh...  Windows is only good for games IMHO
[05:09] <Healot> nay
[05:09] <VanessaE> Linux is serves me well on my desktop
[05:09] <Healot> for nearly everything; especially safe-guarding it; yeah its architecture have few holes here and there; that's what makes Windows challenging
[05:11] <Lunar_Raven> would anyone know how to setup a "wireless WRT54G" in kubuntu?  my friend cant connect to the net. heh :P
[05:11] <VanessaE> eh
[05:13] <Dr_willis> tried that network-manager tool yet?
[05:13] <Hawkwind> Lunar_Raven: He'll have to use ndiswrapper since it's a broadcomm chipset card
[05:13] <Dr_willis> !network-manager
[05:13] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[05:14] <unix_infidel> isnt the wrt54g a router?
[05:14] <Hawkwind> Lunar_Raven: Try this URL:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[05:14] <Dr_willis> unix_infidel,  i was thinking that also... but wasent sure. :)
[05:14] <AlReece45> unix_infidel: it is, i have a couple of them
[05:15] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Ahh, it is.  Same router I have.  I read it as the card that goes with it
[05:15] <unix_infidel> Lunar_Raven: try searching the channel list for wrt54g
[05:15] <unix_infidel> you should get some channels that supprort 3rd party firmware that might be able to help you out with default firmware.
[05:16] <Lunar_Raven> ok thanks hawk
[05:17] <Hawkwind> Lunar_Raven: If you are actually meaning the router, just plug it and go.  I've had mine for 3+ years and every time I install an OS, the router just works
[05:17] <unix_infidel> Lol, Hawkwind always gets the credit :P
[05:17] <pacman> okay, weird question
[05:17] <Hawkwind> Probably because I give pertinent information that actually is true and helps the user instead of giving them info about senseless stuff :)
[05:17] <Hawkwind> pacman: Ok, weird answer
[05:18] <pacman> when I click on my bookmarks tab, I get a tiny circle underneath it, but no list
[05:18] <pacman> I'm using Firefox
[05:18] <Hawkwind> pacman: Edgy or Dapper ?
[05:18] <pacman> dapper
[05:18] <Hawkwind> pacman: How did you install firefox ?
[05:19] <pacman> I don't remember, it's been a while
[05:19] <pacman> I think I did apt-get
[05:19] <Lunar_Raven> hawk, i'm not sure..he says it's a wireless adapter
[05:19] <Hawkwind> pacman: dpkg -l mozilla-firefox
[05:19] <pacman> it was working fine 2 minutes ago
[05:19] <Hawkwind> Lunar_Raven: Ask him if it's a router, or if he's talking about a wireless network *card*
[05:20] <linux_galore> pacman: did you update ?
[05:20] <linux_galore> to 2
[05:20] <pacman> actually, yeah, just did
[05:20] <Hawkwind> That's what I've asked him to do dpkg -l mozilla-firefox
[05:20] <linux_galore> pacman: major breakage
[05:20] <Hawkwind> pacman: You upgraded to 2.0 ??
[05:20] <linux_galore> pacman: it flushed the old setup
[05:20] <Hawkwind> Bahhhhhh, stick with the package manager and stop compiling software
[05:21] <pacman> I dunno, I used the Adept update manage
[05:21] <Hawkwind> Not for 2.0 you didn't
[05:21] <linux_galore> pacman: you should have made a copy or renamed /home/user_name/.mozilla
[05:21] <Hawkwind> 2.0 isn't available in Dapper
[05:22] <pacman> in that case, no I have updated ff
[05:22] <Hawkwind> pacman: dpkg -l mozilla-firefox
[05:22] <Hawkwind> pacman: Please tell me what that says
[05:22] <Lunar_Raven> this is what he said:  "I have the wireless network card in the PC, and in the wireless assitant it shows my 'network' yet when i try and connect it won't let me."
[05:22] <linux_galore> pacman: or even better saves your bookmarks to a file before "ever" doing a major version update
[05:22] <Hawkwind> Lunar_Raven: Then he needs to read that URL I mentioned
[05:22] <Lunar_Raven> k
[05:23] <Hawkwind> intelikey: What part of Houston are you in ?
[05:23] <intelikey> what in the world is opening tty's 5 6 & 7  on this box  ?
[05:23] <Lunar_Raven> thanks
[05:23] <intelikey> Hawkwind arkansas
[05:23] <intelikey> :)
[05:23] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26537/
[05:23] <Hawkwind> Huh!
[05:23] <intelikey> yep
[05:23] <intelikey> i'm not in texas
[05:23] <Hawkwind> pacman: dpkg -l firefox
[05:24] <linux_galore> intelikey: its part of the init setup for virtual terms  ie ctrl alt F1 -> ctl alt F7
[05:24] <intelikey> linux_galore i don't think so
[05:24] <Hawkwind> pacman: Did that tell you the same thing ?
[05:24] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26538/
[05:24] <intelikey> can you explain ?
[05:24] <linux_galore> intelikey: press ctrl alt F1
[05:24] <Hawkwind> pacman: Ok good, so you're not using 2.0.x
[05:25] <Hawkwind> pacman: Do this without firefox running:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old
[05:25] <linux_galore> see how long it is before he figures out X is on ctrl alt F6
[05:25] <Hawkwind> pacman: Do that as normal user, with firefox closed
[05:25] <intelikey> linux_galore i'm talking to you in tty1 so i don't think pressing ctrl+alt+f1 will change anything.
[05:25] <Hawkwind> pacman: Once you do that command, then start firefox again
[05:25] <Hawkwind> linux_galore: He's not a new user
[05:26] <intelikey> linux_galore i know about consoles  i don't use a gui.
[05:26] <Hawkwind> linux_galore: He knows his stuff
[05:26] <pacman> cannot stat `/root/.mozilla': No such file or directory
[05:26] <Hawkwind> pacman: As *normal* user
[05:26] <linux_galore> intelikey: last I looked the seperate tty's is started by a init setup
[05:26] <Hawkwind> Not as root user
[05:26] <Hawkwind> pacman: Not with sudo
[05:27] <pacman> ack
[05:27] <intelikey> linux_galore you did mean tty7 in place of 6 didn't you ?
[05:27] <linux_galore> intelikey: all of them 1-7  you get them even if you dont use X
[05:27] <pacman> now I lost all my bookmarks
[05:28] <Hawkwind> pacman: That's fine, you can get them back
[05:28] <linux_galore> intelikey: the default X session tty can vary from distro to distro
[05:29] <linux_galore> intelikey: seen it run on tty 9 once
[05:29] <Hawkwind> pacman: Open up konqueror, and in the address bar put ~/.mozilla-old and then go into the firefox directory, then into the users directory and copy over your bookmarks.html file to your ~/.mozilla
[05:29] <fyrmedic> How do I change the color of the text during the boot process from blue on a blackground to something that Is readable?
[05:29] <intelikey> linux_galore and yes normally one would expect tty's 1-6 to have a getty running on them because of /etc/inittab  (not tty7 btw)  but i only have a line in inittab for tty1  so what is opening the others ?
[05:31] <pacman> whoa
[05:31] <muhammed> hi
[05:31] <muhammed> how are you guys?
[05:32] <pacman> hold up hawk
[05:32] <Hawkwind> pacman:  ??
[05:32] <intelikey> there is no login prompt or anything but the tty's 5 6 & 7  have at some point been open because i can switch to them.  (they are blank of course)   but nothing between 4 & 21 have i opened.   i normally use tty's 1-4,21-24  because one may switch to them one handedly with left-alt+f[1-4]   and right-alt+f[9-12] 
[05:32] <pacman> when i changed from Windows to Kubuntu, I moved my bookmarks file to my buddy's server
[05:33] <pacman> so I would have it when I started kubuntu
[05:33] <max_> anyone run edgy?
[05:33] <pacman> I never moved it back over...how can I get THAT file
[05:33] <Hawkwind> pacman: I don't think the Windows bookmarks file will work in Linux
[05:33] <OOD> im running edgy
[05:33] <OOD> Hawkwind: they do
[05:33] <Hawkwind> pacman: You could try it though.  Go get the file and put it into ~/.mozilla/firefox/your-user-directory
[05:33] <intelikey> so anyone know what might have accessed tty6 durring boot-up  ?
[05:33] <max_> whats it like
[05:34] <Hawkwind> OOD: I haven't touched Windows in 5 years, I plan on keeping it that way too :)
[05:34] <Hawkwind> max_: It's nice, talk to the guys in #Ubuntu+1 as that is the main Edgy channel
[05:34] <OOD> :P
[05:34] <Hawkwind> OOD: Edgy on your main box ?
[05:35] <max_> whats it like?
[05:35] <OOD> yeah
[05:35] <OOD> it was somewhat unstable 2 days ago
[05:35] <Hawkwind> OOD: Nice.  I'm thinking of making this box(my main box) Edgy this weekend
[05:35] <OOD> but everything's fine now, except suspend and hibernate dont work
[05:35] <Hawkwind> max_: Pretty much like Dapper.  Changes to the initscript system
[05:35] <intelikey> hmmm  i guess not !        oh, well i'll go ask where they don't expect you to want the pointy clicky thingy that windows has to be in the corner of the screen.... :)
[05:36] <max_> i saw on the wiki that its final release is the 26thg
[05:36] <max_> th*
[05:36] <Hawkwind> OOD: I have no need for those.  I have Edgy running in a vmware and have for over a month
[05:36] <Hawkwind> max_: That is correct.  2 weeks from today
[05:36] <pacman> how does that go.... scp idlers.us bookmarks.bak pacman/Desktop
[05:36] <pacman> ?
[05:36] <OOD> i dont use them either :), just felt like trying them since kubuntu dapper had no support for those
[05:36] <Hawkwind> !scp
[05:36] <ubotu> scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using ssh. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client
[05:37] <Hawkwind> pacman: But you want the bookmarks.html file
[05:37] <pacman> hawk, it's a .bak file
[05:37] <pacman> I think I copy and pasted the contents of the .html into a Oo.o file before I dumped windows
[05:38] <Hawkwind> pacman: Ah ok.  It is the .bak file you want, sorry
[05:39] <Hawkwind> The bookmarks.html is a backup file in a way
[05:39] <pacman> so it's scp idlers.us:bookmarks.bak ~/Desktop
[05:40] <max_> does anyone know what would cause this problem? my comp would cycle through shutting down and booting up repeadly, very quickly, or on the rare occasion i could boot up it would shut down with-in 30min....after a few times it did start up i got a SBMK Bad!"
[05:42] <pacman> hawk: yes that was right, but in Konquerer, it won't let me delete what's in there now
[05:42] <pacman> nor will it let me paste
[05:43] <intelikey> max_ only thing i can think of off hand would be a faulty init script kicking it out of runlevel    or rather to runlevel 6       it would be a box i'd like to get my hands on and see what is doing that for you.
[05:44] <luge> chck file permissions?
[05:44] <intelikey> max_ can you boot a live cd on that box to work on it from ?
[05:44] <linux_galore> intelikey: could be an idiot thing in a program starting the tty
[05:45] <max_> i dont know, dont have one to try
[05:45] <intelikey> linux_galore i don't know what program  my startup is pretty bare  and it happens durring boot
[05:46] <luge> bad memory or power supply
[05:46] <linux_galore> intelikey: should show whats kicking it of in the logs
[05:46] <intelikey> on max_'s box yes.
[05:46] <intelikey> dmesg log should
[05:46] <awilcox> Is there anything like smv?
[05:47] <linux_galore> intelikey: logs under /var
[05:47] <awilcox> I want to use scp but I want it to move
[05:47] <luge> pacman check file permissions?
[05:47] <intelikey> no under /var/log/
[05:47] <Hawkwind> pacman: No reason why it shouldn't allow you to.  As long as you are doing it as user in the users ~/.mozilla directory
[05:47] <linux_galore> intelikey: yes
[05:47] <Hawkwind> pacman: You aren't mistaking ~/ as the root directory I hope.   ~/ stands for the users home directory, such as /home/pacman/.mozilla
[05:48] <awilcox> I mean, is that even possible?
[05:49] <max_> thanks for the help guys
[05:49] <intelikey> linux_galore it'd be like looking for a hey stack with a needle under it.
[05:50] <intelikey> but i doubt it will be anything in the logs.
[05:50] <awilcox> intelikey, that's "like looking for a needle in a haystack".  :)
[05:50] <intelikey> i can rm them all and restart that would narrow the search.
[05:50] <intelikey> awilcox not in this case.
[05:50] <awilcox> intelikey, though I do like your version better :)
[05:51] <intelikey> in you phrase you know the hey stack to start with....
[05:51] <awilcox> intelikey, what's the problem?
[05:53] <intelikey> awilcox not really a problem per'se  it's more of an agravation.   something durring the startup process is accessing tty's 5 6 & 7   i don't normally ever open them.  but the system is some how accessing them.    (not default, no login prompt.)
[05:53] <linux_galore> intelikey: bugger me its the kernel doing it
[05:54] <intelikey> why would the kernel do that?   it doesn't when you boot to single.
[05:54] <linux_galore> intelikey: drivers
[05:54] <linux_galore> dbus etc
[05:54] <intelikey> could be.... alsa-utils or something.    i don't use dbus.
[05:54] <intelikey> nor udev
[05:55] <intelikey> it doesn't seem very likely that an init script it's self will be opening them  but may be calling something that is.
[05:56] <linux_galore> intelikey: CONFIG_SERIAL in the kernel will start tty6 tty7
[05:56] <linux_galore> http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0409.1/0862.html
[05:58] <linux_galore> intelikey: have you looked in /etc/securetty
[05:59] <intelikey> linux_galore that file only limites the root login access
[05:59] <intelikey> limits
[06:01] <intelikey> interesting page.  but it's over two years old....
[06:01] <intelikey> assumes dbus and devfs or udev  which i don't run.
[06:02] <intelikey> i will test with a different kernel though.   back in how ever long it takes to reboot
[06:02] <linux_galore> hmm
[06:05] <intelikey> that wouldn't take so long if it wasn't dialup....
[06:07] <intelikey> hmmm changing kernels didn't change it.  same with a home grown 2.4 as it is with a factory 2.6    i don't think it's kernelrelated though.   cause booting with init=/bin/sh  would have the same thing if it was kernel.   it doesn't.  neither does booting to single.
[06:14] <dennister> well i'm not able to fix this problem tonight people...too sick at heart
[06:14] <mister_roboto> any suggestions on the best cd ripping software on kde?
[06:14] <dennister> <------can't even find a lousy floppy that will work
[06:14] <Momal> how to get winxp to read samba shares?... for some reason It just says permission denied... It used to work but for some reason doesn't now :S. I have set it to share level, put it in the hosts allow,set it to be allowed to be viewed before login :S
[06:15] <dennister> cya tomorrow or saturday
[06:19] <flaccid> !samba > Momal
[06:20] <nidal> hi all , my squid is exceeding the space mentioned in cache_dir partition and eating up entire disk space
[06:20] <nidal> any idea ?
[06:20] <nidal> cache_dir ufs /var/spool/squid 12000 16 256
[06:20] <nidal> its exceeding the 12 GB I have mentioned here
[06:21] <flaccid> ~12GB
[06:21] <flaccid> try #squid
[06:22] <Momal> flaccid: I want it the other way... that works fine im trying to access the samba shares under windows but it keeps saying denied on windows
[06:22] <intelikey> i think i found it.
[06:22] <intelikey> it is an init script.   hah leave it to ubuntu to throw a hack like that in.
[06:23] <nidal> flaccid, could you explain it further please ?
[06:23] <nidal> what should I try ?
[06:23] <intelikey> console-screen.sh  <--- offending script.
[06:25] <flaccid> nidal: try the channel #squid
[06:25] <flaccid> Momal: try ##windows
[06:26] <mando> hello
[06:26] <mando> i have a big problem with kubuntu
[06:26] <mando> when its loading
[06:26] <intelikey> back again.
[06:26] <mando> i get a whole bunch of buffer I/O errors on hda2
[06:26] <mando> or hda i think
[06:26] <mando> how do i fix that?
[06:27] <mando> kubuntu eventually loads.. but these errors take forever
[06:27] <flaccid> i'm not sure mando, but it could be a damaged hard disk
[06:27] <intelikey> mando how big is your boot partition ?
[06:27] <flaccid> have you got a linux live cd of some sort available?
[06:28] <mando> 3 gb
[06:28] <mando> i think my hard disk is ok.. when i run disk checks from windows i get no errors
[06:28] <mando> yes i do
[06:28] <intelikey> mando when do you see these errors ?
[06:28] <mando> i have the live cd
[06:28] <flaccid> windows cannot scan an ext2/3 filesystem
[06:29] <mando> i get these errors after kubuntu checks the fat systems
[06:29] <flaccid> mando: boot off live cd, do not mount /dev/hda (/) and do a fsck on the disk
[06:29] <flaccid> that could be coincidence
[06:29] <flaccid> basically you need live cd because its bad to scan a mounted hard disk
[06:29] <mando> i'm a linux newbie
[06:30] <mando> how do i not mount /dev/hda
[06:30] <nidal> thanx flaccid, but I had already tried and seems to be no one there to answer , still waiting
[06:30] <mando> and how do i run fsck
[06:30] <intelikey> ok so it's generated from checkfs.sh
[06:30] <redirtS> hi
[06:31] <intelikey> or possably mountall.sh
[06:31] <redirtS> is it easy to get nvidia 3d going in kubuntu?
[06:31] <mando> how do i not mount /dev/hda
[06:31] <intelikey> mando not any bad code in your /etc/fstab is there ?
[06:31] <flaccid> mando: and you probably want to run it with -cV options
[06:31] <mando> how can i check? i'm such a newbie
[06:32] <mando> i've just installed kubuntu and this is my first linux distro to try
[06:32] <intelikey> could you pastebin  the output of  cat /etc/fstab && mount
[06:32] <mando> ?
[06:32] <intelikey> !paste
[06:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:33] <mando> i dont understand sorry
[06:33] <mando> give me instructions
[06:33] <mando> step by step
[06:33] <mando> please
[06:33] <flaccid> mando: boot off live cd, open konsole and run fsck -cV /dev/hda
[06:33] <linux_galore> !nvidia
[06:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:33] <Momal> finally fixed... yay to samba examples... it wasn't a windows issue was to do with kubuntu's samba setup
[06:33] <intelikey> open konsole  and type in       cat /etc/fstab && mount
[06:33] <flaccid> Momal: how so
[06:34] <linux_galore> redirtS: link for you ^
[06:34] <mando> ok thanks flaccid
[06:34] <Momal> samba wasn't configured properly to allow windows
[06:34] <redirtS> mando: just copy and paste it into condole
[06:34] <flaccid> Momal: how so
[06:34] <intelikey> highlight it with the mouse and paste it to this web page http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  then show us the url it gives you.
[06:34] <mando> like right now?
[06:34] <Momal> workgroup setting
[06:34] <mando> isnt it a bad idea to scan a mounted drive?
[06:34] <flaccid> redirtS: you don't wanna scan a mounted hard disk
[06:34] <Momal> it was set on workgroup under samaba and mshome on windows... they require to be the same
[06:35] <redirtS> linux_galore: thanks
[06:35] <flaccid> Momal: lol you can blame windows for that :)
[06:35] <Momal> yes and I have no problem with blaming windows either. :p... if only there was better game support on linux :(
[06:35] <intelikey> mando nothing in what i asked you to do that will scan anything.
[06:35] <Momal> well for the bigger games
[06:36] <mando> yeah my msg was meant to redirtS
[06:36] <mando> ok i'll go an try that
[06:36] <mando> thank you guys
[06:36] <flaccid> mando: you probably want to run  fsck -cV /dev/hda1
[06:37] <mando> i believe my linux partitions are hda5 and hda6
[06:37] <intelikey> partiton one flaccid ?
[06:37] <flaccid> ok cool scan both of them
[06:37] <intelikey> he has windows also.
[06:37] <redirtS> the link for nvidia is for gnome, not kde
[06:37] <mando> ok thanks all
[06:37] <mando> will try that and brb
[06:37] <flaccid> mand it scans for bad blocks so can take a while
 i believe my linux partitions are hda5 and hda6  <--- normally 5 will be the extended and 6 the logical.   so scanning 5 will probably error out.
[06:38] <AB3I> evening all. I'm running thunderbird on Kubuntu 6.06. Thunderbird cant minimize to the system tray by default, so I need a docking program. Anyone know of one I can find on the repositories? Someone suggested kdocker, but I cant find it anywhere
[06:39] <flaccid> i think its called kxdocker?
[06:39] <AB3I> ah, I see that one
[06:39] <AB3I> lemme try it
[06:39] <intelikey> or should i say 6+ will be logical
[06:40] <flaccid> AB3I: this one is the mac look a like if you are ok with that
[06:40] <AB3I> eh, I'll try it out and see
[06:40] <AB3I> I saw one or two others on the list that might work
[06:40] <flaccid> AB3I: you don't have the normal kicker dock?
[06:40] <flaccid> AB3I: you could open apt:/search?dock in konqueror to see package results
[06:40] <AB3I> oh. Ew thats not what I'm lookin for
[06:41] <AB3I> I just want a program that will allow me to minimize thunderbird to the system tray the way amarok does it
[06:41] <flaccid> what are you looking for?
[06:41] <flaccid> AB3I: whats wrong with the normal kpanel?
[06:41] <AB3I> you have to have thunderbird open in the taskbar
[06:41] <flaccid> AB3I: oh thats dependant on the program
[06:41] <AB3I> it cant minimize to the panel on its own
[06:42] <AB3I> I know, but there is apparently a utility that can do it
[06:42] <flaccid> maybe ask in #firefox?
[06:42] <AB3I> kind of the long way around, but would beat having the damn thing open all the time
[06:42] <AB3I> hmm thanks I'll give it a rip
[06:42] <flaccid> i gtg
[06:43] <Momal> if you have a symlink from say a folder that is root accessable only and give the symlink access permissions from anyone will anyone beable to access where the symlink points to ?
[06:43] <AB3I> thanks for the advice flaccid
[06:43] <intelikey> Momal symlinks are 777
[06:44] <intelikey> that's wrxwrxwrx  for the non-geek types
[06:44] <Healot> that's geekier
[06:44] <Momal> yea but what it links to will that be accessable by anyone?
[06:44] <Momal> provided they use the symlink
[06:44] <intelikey> no
[06:44] <Momal> k thanks
[06:45] <intelikey> that's what i was saying.   all symlinks are 777   it doesn't affect the actualy inode's perms
[06:46] <Momal> hmm how do I get samba to access a mounted hdd ?
[06:46] <intelikey> basicly a symlink just says "hey go look over there"
[06:46] <Momal> I added it to the config but seem it doesn't want to allow access to guests
[06:47] <intelikey> would the guest have access locally ?
[06:47] <mando> hey guys
[06:47] <Momal> thats what im thinking ^_-
[06:47] <mando> ok i'm now logged on from the live cd
[06:47] <mando> when i try to fsck
[06:47] <mando> it says i must be root
[06:48] <intelikey> sudo
[06:48] <intelikey> !sudo
[06:48] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:48] <mando> ok thanks man :D working now
[06:48] <mando> does fsck fix bad blocks?
[06:48] <intelikey> use 'root jr.' dude  ;/
[06:49] <intelikey> bad block no.
[06:49] <intelikey> badblocks is for ah bad blocks
[06:49] <mando> lets hope the check goes fine then lol
[06:50] <mando> i hope i can have a fully running linux system soon
[06:50] <mando> linux kicks windows ass
[06:50] <mando> thats my first impression lol
[06:51] <intelikey> that it does
[06:51] <intelikey> kicks off buts and takes down names....
[06:51] <mando> yeah but needs lots of workaround
[06:51] <mando> windows is as simple as sex
[06:52] <intelikey> depends on the setup.
[06:52] <intelikey> and the partner for that matter
[06:52] <mando> well i had very big problems installing linux on my acer aspire laptop
[06:52] <mando> the screen gets turned off when the live cd started
[06:53] <mando> i had to edit the xorg.conf file
[06:53] <intelikey> yeah that would be one of the more complicated installs i guess.
[06:53] <mando> and i didnt know what the heck is that and how to edit it
[06:53] <mando> lots of googling before i know how to add the monitorlayout line to it
[06:53] <mando> and now that it has worked.. i get a whole bunch of i/o errors
[06:54] <intelikey> but a year or two on linux and that will be as you say "as simple as sex"
[06:54] <Momal> windows to linuxshares is sooooo slow >_<
[06:54] <Momal> probly windows been stupid >_<
[06:54] <mando> i hope so
[06:54] <mando> i'm lovin linux already
[06:55] <Momal> anyonw know a way to speed up O_o.... its still waiting to start copying a 6mb file >_<
[06:55] <mando> btw kubuntu is able to find my wireless network but i cant get it to connect
[06:56] <intelikey> word !    lot's of people come to linux with the mind set that, "i know windows so i should know linux"    nothing could be farther from the truth. you kinda have to unlearn windows to learn linux.
[06:56] <intelikey> !wifi
[06:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:56] <mando> thank you!
[06:56] <AB3I> hmm
[06:56] <Momal> browser window freezes why am i not suprised >_<... DAMN you windows.
[06:57] <Momal> you have to change your minds dictionary to say windows = evil never think or use it again. to beable to use linux :p
[06:57] <mando> is there a photoshop substitute on linux?
[06:57] <bmo> gimp
[06:57] <mando> is it as good?
[06:57] <bmo> it depends on how addicted to ps you are
[06:57] <AB3I> can anyone explain what Qt is? apparently I need it to install kdocker
[06:57] <mando> i'm a web designer and i cant compromise the quality
[06:58] <mando> i've been working on it for 4 years now
[06:58] <mando> :S
[06:58] <Momal> I believe there is some guide to get photoshop to work under *ubuntu using wine
[06:58] <intelikey> Momal lol    i would not go that far.    but i think that the windows =   kinda comes without trying.
[06:58] <bmo> then all you have to do is try it.  there is an extension called gimpshop to photoshopify it
[06:58] <AB3I> gimp is absolutely as capable as photoshop. Its just got a bit of a learning curve
[06:58] <AB3I> and yes wine plays well with photoshop. A bit slow though
[06:58] <Momal> I would go that far :p.... so far I have been waiting for windows to copy 6mb over a 1gbps connection for 13minutes now >_<
[06:59] <mando> photoshopising gimp would do it for me lol
[06:59] <AB3I> Momal, chances are it isn't going to work then...
[06:59] <intelikey> Momal can you ssh in ?    scp would beet that all to peaces.
[07:00] <mando> i loved how kubuntu has power management support for laptops
[07:00] <bmo> if you do web graphics, gimp is great at handling rgb pictures
[07:00] <mando> yeah web graphics
[07:00] <bmo> which means it's also great at astronomy pics
[07:00] <Momal> yea the boxes talk fine pinging... but i need to mount an iso from my linux box onto my windows box.. so I need the shares working lol
[07:01] <Momal> finally windows says 5minutes remaining.. acually started to copy >_<
[07:01] <intelikey> hehhe
[07:01] <Momal> I think something is making it slow... I don't think windows is even this slow >_<... or is it ? lol
[07:01] <bmo> since a lot of amateur astronomers use rgb color wheels to take "color" photos
[07:02] <bmo> too bad Windows doesn't support fish:// momal
[07:02] <intelikey> i never figured out why rgb needed g ???
[07:02] <Momal> lol
[07:02] <mando> Checking for bad blocks (read-only test): done                        170
[07:03] <mando> what does that mean?
[07:03] <Momal> tobad windows doesn't support bash lol!
[07:03] <bmo> it does, there is a port of bash for windows
[07:03] <intelikey> block 170 shows to be bad.
[07:03] <Momal> real bash lol!... none of this port crap lol
[07:03] <mando> hmm
[07:03] <mando> is there anything i can do?
[07:04] <bmo> you have 170 bad blocks?
[07:04] <mando> thats the result
[07:04] <bmo> eep
[07:04] <intelikey> run it again.  it should have fixed that.     err actually marked the block.
[07:04] <mando> ok running it again
[07:04] <bmo> he ran it as read-only, intelikey
[07:05] <bmo> he should run it as rw
[07:05] <intelikey> bmo that's the testing mode.   so it doesn't destory all data
[07:05] <bmo> which fsck is he running?
[07:05] <intelikey> run in read only.  unless you are going to format the disk
[07:05] <intelikey> badblocks
[07:06] <bmo> oh
[07:06] <mando> there's something that has to be said though
[07:06] <mando> konquerer sucks monkey ass
[07:06] <bmo> tar -cf /mount/goodbackupdrive.tar /dev/badrive
[07:07] <intelikey> why does that have to be said ?
[07:07] <intelikey> !language
[07:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:07] <mando> lol sorry for that
[07:07] <mando> but i believe its very incompetent
[07:08] <intelikey> then you haven't learned to use it yet.
[07:08] <mando> mozilla works on kubuntu right?
[07:08] <intelikey> @ mando  ^
[07:08] <intelikey> it does
[07:08] <bmo> mozilla works on everything
[07:08] <bmo> mozilla works in twm
[07:08] <mando> well mozilla is a real browser
[07:08] <AB3I> gnome works fine for me. I just despise the complete lack of customization
[07:08] <Empiric> hi all
[07:08] <intelikey> mozilla works in console
[07:08] <bmo> mando: once you learn the magic of ioslaves, you will never go back to gnome
[07:08] <Empiric> my hard disk partition table is currupt
[07:08] <AB3I> ice and kde are my favorites
[07:08] <intelikey> AB3I here here
[07:09] <Empiric> can any on guide me how i recover my data
[07:09] <mando> is mozilla gnome?
[07:09] <Empiric> its very imp
[07:09] <bmo> mozilla is mozilla
[07:09] <AB3I> mozilla is independant of the gui
[07:09] <mando> lol pardon me..
[07:09] <intelikey> Empiric testdisk
[07:09] <AB3I> hence it operates in the console if you're sadistic enoguh
[07:09] <AB3I> *masochistic enough
[07:09] <intelikey> easy !
[07:10] <Empiric> its a tool
[07:10] <Empiric> b/c i wont be able to mount it
[07:10] <intelikey> lets don't "bash" the console guys
[07:10] <Empiric> only boot partition is mountable
[07:10] <mando> whats amazing is.. how windows suck.. i cant really find a reason for that
[07:10] <intelikey> pun intended
[07:11] <intelikey> Empiric live cd  and install testdisk and run it.
[07:11] <bmo> empiric, mount a knoppix live CD...it's got good rescue tools
[07:11] <AB3I> mando, its intentional
[07:11] <ke> Instability, insecurity, mando.. But I can't pull myself together to fully switch to linux, so I don't bitch about it
[07:11] <intelikey> mando i can   EULA
[07:11] <AB3I> if windows was built the way they know they should have built it, what would be the point in upgrades?
[07:11] <mando> yeah you've got a point
[07:12] <ke> To follow people's requests
[07:12] <mando> like the whole y2k thing
[07:12] <ke> Times change
[07:12] <AB3I> I made the switch to a microcrap free home a few months ago
[07:12] <AB3I> I'll never go back
[07:12] <rredd4> when I install samba smbfs plugin, dapper kubuntu, I get these errors.    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26558/
[07:12] <mando> open source is an amazing concept
[07:12] <Empiric> where i download knopix
[07:12] <Empiric> i try from kubuntu
[07:12] <Momal> computer life started when I was 2-3 (can't remember) dos/win3.1 - 4 years win98 - 4 years winxp - 1year linux - 5th year now :)
[07:12] <intelikey> this is not a M$ reboot OS   but this is not a bash other OS's channel either.
[07:13] <bmo> www.knoppix.org
[07:13] <mando> sorry for that intelikey
[07:13] <bmo> click the english/american flag for english
[07:13] <Empiric> intelekey its a rpm file
[07:13] <Empiric> not an iso to burn on cd
[07:13] <intelikey> Momal so your about 16 now.
[07:13] <Momal> 17
[07:13] <Momal> :)
[07:13] <mando> damn.. i'm 18 and i'm still a newbie
[07:14] <bmo> and if you need english, make sure you download the english iso. heh.
[07:14] <intelikey> i've got kids older than yall.....
[07:14] <bmo> you do?
[07:14] <mando> well i may be young but i'm in college lol
[07:14] <mando> 2nd year.. engineering
[07:14] <AB3I> 21 here
[07:15] <Momal> lol... I have used linux for 4+ years gone through countless distro's and still know only little bits lol!... I would say I know enough to do what needs to be done :)
[07:15] <AB3I> I use unix for a living
[07:15] <intelikey> wet behind the ears pups
[07:15] <AB3I> so I'd better be good enough to hold my own on a desktop
[07:15] <intelikey> ya whipper snappers.
[07:15] <ke> intelikey, my highest congrat's to you
[07:15] <ke> ...
[07:15] <ke> Anyways
[07:15] <ke> <-- gone
[07:15] <mando> Checking for bad blocks (read-only test): done                        170
[07:16] <mando> now its checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[07:16] <intelikey> mando hmmmmm   let me look a minute.
[07:16] <AB3I> intelikey, any experience on OpenVMS?
[07:16] <mando> i've accidentally skipped this stage during the first check
[07:16] <Momal> GRRRRRRR if only I could take my rage out on this channell.... how long has it been since I last mentioned about the files copying? says 3min remaining >_<
[07:16] <Momal> anyone ever had windows accessing samba shares really slow ?
[07:16] <mando> checking for a third and final time
[07:17] <mando> cuz the first time i tried copying windows style (ctrl+c) and that cancelled the test after the first check
[07:17] <AB3I> yeah it will do that
[07:17] <AB3I> dont do ctrl-z either
[07:18] <intelikey> AB3I ah no.
[07:18] <AB3I> I work with solaris, a bastardized OpenVMS, and a flavor of BSD at work
[07:18] <unix_infidel> AB3I: at work or by choice :P
[07:19] <AB3I> at work
[07:19] <AB3I> I fly on a USAF surveilance/C2 platform. We've got a sun server, a server using a sort of bsdish system, and 20 systems running OpenVMS (sorta)
[07:20] <AB3I> I'm the computer and radar technician. What sucks is with the exception of the sun server, everything is different enough from linux that it hasn't done me a whole lot of good
[07:20] <unix_infidel> heh, you sure you can say that here :P
[07:21] <AB3I> yeah. I just cant show you the imagery we do, or tell you the power output and range of the aircraft. Then I'd have to sick the guys in the black helicopters on you :P
[07:21] <intelikey> mando that should not be showing the same block number over....    something is not right there.      try this  sudo e2fsck -fc <your/device>
[07:21] <unix_infidel> AB3I: they've been here before....unfortunately :p
[07:22] <AB3I> haha
[07:22] <mando> ok doing a fsck check once again cuz i accidentally canceled the scan after the bad blocks check
[07:22] <mando> half way though now
[07:23] <AB3I> we even have an old VAX computer on that jet
[07:23] <AB3I> though we dont have any means of interfacing directly to it
[07:24] <unix_infidel> AB3I: yea, was considering going into the marines after i graduate.
[07:25] <Momal> woo just great windows can't even see my kubuntu box anymore
[07:25] <unix_infidel> they have some nice hardware at dermo sometimes, i'd like to play with thta :0
[07:25] <AB3I> meh. I'm not going to badmouth another branch of the military
[07:25] <unix_infidel> :P
[07:25] <AB3I> but suffice to say if you're looking for technical jobs, go navy or air force
[07:25] <AB3I> in the marines you are first and foremost a rifleman
[07:26] <unix_infidel> already a head of ya :0
[07:26] <AB3I> if you aren't a combat experienced gunner yet, you will be very shortly
[07:26] <unix_infidel> :)
[07:26] <intelikey> mando how much trubble would it be for you to wipe that hdd and start from clean?   cause if you do have bad blocks  a write test of badblocks would be advisable.     (i actually throw hd's away if they get bad blocks on them.)
[07:26] <AB3I> hell, one of the technicians that works on some Cobras here on base has more time on a convoy than he does workin on his airframe
[07:27] <mando> i have lots of important files on the hd :S
[07:27] <mando> is there a way to go around it?
[07:27] <mando> i can wipe the partition
[07:27] <mando> but not the whole drive
[07:27] <mando> and how come before i've converted the partition to ext3 windows never found any problems with it?
[07:28] <AB3I> night all
[07:28] <intelikey> not really.   you are talking about possable dammage that could be in the partition table or the first block of a partition.....  better if you can  to test the whole disk.
[07:29] <intelikey> mando and windows never scans the actual disk unless you tell it to.
[07:29] <mando> hmm true
[07:29] <intelikey> or what i remember of M$ anyway.
[07:29] <mando> and bad blocks cannot be fixed?
[07:30] <intelikey> it's looking for phisically defective areas  so no.
[07:30] <mando> and what can cause that? maybe excessive heat?
[07:30] <intelikey> maybe.
[07:30] <mando> laptops suck man
[07:31] <mando> yeah 3rd check and same number of bad blocks
[07:31] <mando> should i try that: sudo e2fsck -fc <your/device>
[07:31] <intelikey> yeah
[07:31] <intelikey> inturpret <your/device>
[07:32] <intelikey> sudo e2fsck -fc /dev/hda6      maybe
[07:32] <mando> yeah ofcourse
[07:32] <mando> hda5
[07:32] <intelikey> k
[07:32] <ubuntu> hallo all
[07:33] <Momal> the joys on windows freezing on my network places.... why couln't they make it more like linux >_<
[07:33] <intelikey> did i say that wrong a while ago....   i think i did.   it #4 that is the extended partition.  and #5+ that are the logical drives on the extended....     my bad.
[07:33] <toel> where i can download software kubuntu
[07:34] <intelikey> !repos
[07:34] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:34] <intelikey> toel ^
[07:35] <toel> thank...
[07:35] <intelikey> i don't keep up with partitions  cause i don't use them.
[07:35] <Momal> windows accessing samba under kubuntu... the samba share links to a harddrive I have mounted... that should work fine right?
[07:37] <intelikey> idk
[07:37] <Momal> pfft lol
[07:37] <intelikey> :)
[07:38] <intelikey> yes it should,    but that is only a logical response, not experimental
[07:38] <Momal> I think I might just ring up microsoft support and ask them how to use linux im that pissed off with windows at the moment >_<.. tell them Microsoft Linux is installed and I want to know how to use it lol!!
[07:38] <intelikey> full path.  not reletive path  ^
[07:40] <intelikey> they hear things like that.    people from bangladesh and india  that answer the phones for M$
[07:40] <intelikey> they are used to it.
[07:40] <Momal> well thats good they can help me then :D
[07:41] <zer0hour> what help do you need?
[07:41] <zer0hour> samba?
[07:42] <Momal> yea my problem is that when windows accesses my samba share(which is to /media/hdd1/ - permissions are set right) Its really slow long long response times >_< really slow to copy
[07:43] <Momal> On a 1gbps connection It can't even copy 6mb in 5 minutes
[07:43] <Momal> still says 3minutes remaining from at least 30min ago
[07:43] <intelikey> -:- zer0hour [n=zer0hour@S0106000f3d3b0cb5.vn.shawcable.net]  has left #kubuntu   <--- hmm
[07:43] <intelikey> waited too long i guess.
[07:44] <Momal> lol... well im blind >_<
[07:44] <Momal> thats what happens when you start using windows you miss the details >_<
[07:44] <intelikey> i hate it when people do that.    offer to help then leave....
[07:45] <intelikey> so let me see if i can help you....
[07:45] <mando> hey intelikey.. same result for e2fsck 170 bad blocks
[07:45] <Momal> garr I wish something would just work in windows for once... suprising everything in linux once you have configured the stuff and got what it requires it acually works
[07:46] <intelikey> mando you should consider maybe backing up all important data.       if the drive has one bad block it probably has others....
[07:46] <mando> this is something else i got /dev/hda5: 76116/1628800 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 503145/3257170 blocks
[07:47] <toel> ubuntu very good in my server campus in indonesia
[07:47] <intelikey> Momal that the report from the test.  that's normal.
[07:47] <mando> hmm ok
[07:47] <mando> ok and after i backup? replace hard-drive?
[07:48] <Momal> intelikey: what was that report about ?
[07:48] <intelikey> at least do a  "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda && badblocks -w /dev/hda "   on it mando
[07:49] <mando> and what does that do?
[07:50] <intelikey> Momal it's the statistics on the file system.    "e2fsck"    the number of used/unused inodes and the percentage of non-contiguous used inodes.
[07:50] <Momal> oh.. what does that have to do with me ? lol
[07:51] <intelikey> mando it will write goose eggs to the entire drive.  and then start the badblocks test in write mode.
[07:51] <intelikey> Momal nothing at all.  just bad tab completion in the irc client.
[07:51] <Momal> arr lol
[07:51] <mando> what does "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda && badblocks -w /dev/hda " do?
[07:52] <intelikey> i hit mo{tab}  in place of ma{tab} by accadent
[07:52] <intelikey> mando it will write goose eggs to the entire drive.  and then start the badblocks test in write mode.
[07:52] <intelikey> goose eggs == 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[07:52] <intelikey> zero
[07:52] <mando> wow!
[07:53] <mando> thats basically overwriting everything?
[07:53] <Jucato> is that the goose that lay the binary eggs?
[07:53] <intelikey> not basicly but entirely.  mbr and all
[07:53] <mando> damn
[07:53] <mando> ok thanks for your help
[07:53] <mando> much appreciated
[07:53] <intelikey> mando anytime.
[07:53] <mando> i'll go get some sleep now
[07:53] <intelikey> Jucato probably.
[07:54] <mando> its 8 am in the morning
[07:54] <intelikey> 8 am is usually in the morning....
[07:54] <intelikey> except when it's not i guess....
[07:54] <intelikey> :)
[07:54] <mando> lol sorry.. thats wat staying up for 24 hours straight does to you
[07:54] <mando> and the country is egypt for those who're wondering
[07:55] <intelikey> been there.
[07:55] <mando> yeah one last question
[07:55] <intelikey> ^ the staying up    not egypt.
[07:55] <Jucato> oooh Egypt...
[07:55] <mando> is there a way to bypass the check that brings up the buffer i/o errors when loading ubuntu?
[07:57] <mando> anyone?
[07:57] <intelikey> mando hmmmmm not a good idea.  but yes there is.   remove the symlink     "/etc/rcS.d/S30checkfs.sh"   but i don't recommend it.
[07:58] <intelikey> or possably even  "  /etc/rcS.d/S20checkroot.sh  "    which is even worse.
[07:58] <mando> lol
[07:58] <mando> better not do it
[07:58] <Momal> you could always just edit the script and make it not show the output :)
[07:58] <mando> anyway thanks
[07:58] <mando> bye
[07:58] <intelikey> better not.
[07:58] <intelikey> gooday
[07:59] <intelikey> Momal i don't think you can.   it's a kernel error message   it's not something you can redirrect in the script.
[07:59] <Momal> oo
[07:59] <Momal> just throwing in random ideas >_<
[08:00] <Momal> im about to saw up anything with the word microsoft in my house
[08:00] <intelikey> well one could tell the kernel to keep it's errors to it's self.... hehhe another bad idea.
[08:00] <Momal> lol
[08:00] <Momal> probly best to just fix whats causing the errors ^^
[08:01] <intelikey> prezactly
[08:01] <Momal> you dont' happen to use samba with windows? lol
[08:01] <intelikey> i don't happen to do windows piriod
[08:03] <Momal> lucky... I wish all games ran in linux :'(
[08:04] <Momal> only reas why I still have windows
[08:04] <intelikey> so if that's the only reason, why samba ?
[08:04] <intelikey> or am i missing something ?
[08:06] <Momal> I have all my hd's are in my linux box... and I have all my cds/dvds converted into image files ^^. I have 840gb hdspace so I put them all to images saves using the cds :)
[08:07] <intelikey> i see.
[08:09] <Momal> it still hasn't copyed that 6mb over :S
[08:09] <intelikey> i think i'll drop a fork bomb on my system to test the security/limits    if i ping out you'll know why   :)
[08:09] <Momal> lolz
[08:16] <yintelike> interesting   the ubuntu default kernel can't handel that even with the process limit set to 90    my home grow kernel handels it just fine.
[08:18] <yintelike> it seem that *buntu built their kernel with OOMK set to "smart" which is susseptable to fork bombs   i built mine with OOMK set to last which kills the last process started when out of memory....
[08:18] <yintelike> smart kills the process that is most idle   which means that every thing but the fork bomb gets killed.
[08:19] <Momal> lol
[08:19] <yintelike> incase anyone was interested.   :)
[08:20] <yintelike> Momal ever seen what         :(){ :|:& }; :         does to a linux box ?     hehhe don't try it unless you are ready to reboot.
[08:21] <Momal> lol
[08:22] <Momal> once i get damn windows to finally work properly i'll vmware my other kubuntu setup and run it :p
[08:22] <yintelike> ready to reboot or have a custom kernel that can handle it that is.
[08:24] <MaKaTiGuY> i've installed KDE to my ubuntu, how do i switch from gnome to Kde?
[08:25] <Jucato> MaKaTiGuY: when you log in, there will be a choice to log into a KDE Session
[08:25] <MaKaTiGuY> jucato: there's none
[08:26] <yintelike> function :  is defined  :() <--- means make this a function.   as  :|:&     which then when : is executed it pipes nothing to another : and drops to the background   which repetes .....     cpu goes to 100%   it fills the ram with a bazillion instances of :|:&    then the kernels OOMK == out of memory killer    starts killing things randomly.
[08:27] <yintelike> if you have enough ram and swap you can do a killall :   or killall5   in time to stop it.... if the machine will respond in time with the cpu maxed out.
[08:29] <Momal> I have 2gbram and 2gb swap lol that enough ?
[08:29] <kraut> moin
[08:29] <yintelike> i couldn't say.  if you want to know you'll just have to test.
[08:30] <yintelike> kraut shalom
[08:30] <Jucato> yintelike: any reason the "y" doesn't want to be at the end of your name anymore? :)
[08:31] <yintelike> there was another me round about ....
[08:31] <Momal> lol
[08:31] <Jucato> oh :)
[08:31] <yintelike> i could enforce a kill on it.
[08:31] <Jucato> well it's gone
[08:31] <yintelike> ok  if you like it better i'll change my nick.
[08:31] <Momal> Jucato: know much about samba and windows?
[08:32] <Jucato> Momal: unfortunately, no...
[08:32] <intelikey> better ?
[08:32] <Jucato> intelikey: yes I like it much better :)
[08:32] <Momal> then in that case... today I mark as the offical day to celebrate how much windows is the worst piece of shitakke mushrooms this world has ever seen
[08:34] <intelikey> Jucato interesting point about the nick.  seems that bx did kill the spook but didn't change my nick back to normal...  i guess i'll have to look into .ircrc
[08:35] <Jucato> oh
[08:36] <intelikey> looks like i have it set to   recover and release  but nothing about switching my nick....     whats the  verable for self ?    %?
[08:37] <Jucato> err....                      .
[08:43] <Momal> is there a program that I can view (pref gui) everything that is connected to my box and see what speeds they are using on my box (eg transfer speed)
[08:45] <flaccid> Momal: ethereal ?
[08:45] <flaccid> that might be suffice
[08:45] <flaccid> but your netstat command is good..
[08:45] <Momal> I just need to see what my windows is acually doing... need to see if it is transfering things from kubuntu or not
[08:46] <flaccid> netstat -a | grep -i established
[08:46] <flaccid> or netstat -a | grep -i tcp
[08:46] <flaccid> for eg.
[08:47] <Momal> tcp        0      0 10.0.1.1:microsoft-ds   10.0.5.1:1151           ESTABLISHED | seems to be connect.. so why does windows have to be such an annoyance about it >_<
[08:48] <flaccid> what is the exact problem, Momal?
[08:49] <kubuntu> gjgjgj
[08:50] <Momal> windows accesing my samba share (/media/hdd1 - permissions are set for it) windows is taking way to long to copy and read the files from it (long as in hour+ just for 6mb to copy)
[08:50] <flaccid> but you don't report any smb problems regarding connection/perms?
[08:50] <intelikey> that's slower than dialup.
[08:51] <flaccid> Momal: do a testparm to see if your config is ok
[08:51] <flaccid> also do on localhost do smbclient -NL //localhost
[08:51] <flaccid> and smbclient -N //localhost/share
[08:55] <intelikey> hardcoded hardcore.
[08:57] <flaccid> i wonder if there is any audio channels on this server
[08:58] <flaccid> who can test this
[08:58] <flaccid> file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[08:58] <flaccid> default page for firefox
[08:58] <flaccid> the links for table of contents are 404
[08:58] <Momal> yup they are 404 for me
[08:58] <Momal> umm using smbclient connected fine and testparm didn't return any errors
[08:58] <Momal> :S
[08:59] <flaccid> hmm
[08:59] <flaccid> have you tried from a different lan client?
[08:59] <flaccid> to d/l that is
[08:59] <Momal> nope don't have any others... but when I boot up with linux on the box with windows it gets the data fine :S
[09:00] <flaccid> dual boot?
[09:00] <Healot> two boots :)
[09:00] <intelikey> ls /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[09:00] <intelikey> celsion: /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html: No such file or directory
[09:00] <flaccid> intelikey: seems hard to believe that kubuntu didn't include them
[09:01] <Momal> yea i have 2 boxes... 1 with jsut linux(one im on) and another one with windows and kubuntu
[09:01] <intelikey> i might not have kubuntu
[09:01] <flaccid> Momal: sounds like your windows might have an issue
[09:01] <flaccid> pastebin your smb.conf if you like and i'll just check it
[09:01] <intelikey> i installed ubuntu hoary server install   then did  dist-upgrade to dapper and apt-got kde
[09:02] <intelikey> convoluted i know.
[09:02] <flaccid> intelikey: looks like its the same for normal kubuntu installs. pretty hectic error.
[09:02] <flaccid> i actually wanted to read the pages lol
[09:02] <intelikey> :)
[09:03] <intelikey> hmmm actually there is nothing even close.
[09:03] <intelikey> celsion: /usr/share/*buntu: No such file or directory
[09:04] <intelikey> celsion: == ls:
[09:04] <Momal> flaccid: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/200533 <-- smb.conf
[09:04] <intelikey> i changed the nick completion char but have to restart bx for it to take affect i guess.
[09:05] <intelikey> ok i'm out.
[09:05] <Momal> it was from an online example then i just changed it :)
[09:05] <Momal> cya
[09:07] <flaccid> Momal: i'd say it could be a problem with share security mode and NetBT election
[09:08] <flaccid> also could be conflicting with windows as a domain master and local master
[09:08] <flaccid> hey fildo
[09:08] <flaccid> you probably don't won't dns proxy as well
[09:08] <Momal> hmm how to fix ?
[09:10] <fildo> hey flaccid
[09:10] <flaccid> i'm not sure if the interfaces should be the ip address instead of network ip
[09:11] <flaccid> its not a good idea to an example, retro-fit it and not understand some of the directives
[09:11] <flaccid> i'll annotote it
[09:11] <flaccid> Momal: what is the workgroup
[09:11] <Momal> mshome
[09:12] <Momal> windows ip: 10.0.5.1 | linux ip: 10.0.1.1
[09:12] <flaccid> what is the ip of the windows client?
[09:12] <flaccid> ah well there is the problem
[09:12] <flaccid> possible
[09:12] <flaccid> doesn't match interface
[09:12] <flaccid> which is prolly ignored anyway
[09:13] <Momal> oo
[09:15] <flaccid> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/200547
[09:15] <flaccid> ^^ try that Momal
[09:15] <flaccid> also check logs
[09:16] <max_> hi, can anyone help me...im having problems unpacking a .7z file, my p7zip keeps giving me errors
[09:18] <max_> anyone?
[09:19] <Momal> flaccid: windows is asking for user/pass when tying to access \\10.0.1.1\ and saying wrong userpass on \\10.0.1.1\hdd1\ | the log just says samba was started no errors
[09:19] <MDCore> so.. I'm busy download 3.5.5... how's it running for everybody ?
[09:20] <Momal> no problem with kde 3.5.5 here :)
[09:20] <flaccid> i think i left guest out
[09:20] <flaccid> 1 sec
[09:24] <flaccid> do you want that share as guest access, Momal
[09:24] <Momal> yea so anyone can see and read from it
[09:25] <MDCore> I found 3.5.4 to be a lot slower+flakier of 3.5.2... I dunno, it's very subjective :)
[09:26] <flaccid> Momal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/200558 can you please testparm it first
[09:27] <Momal> testparm went fine only gave : WARNING: passdb expand explicit = yes is deprecated | as the only warning and no errors
[09:28] <flaccid> ok
[09:28] <flaccid> give it a try
[09:30] <max_>  hi, can anyone help me...im having problems unpacking a .7z file, my p7zip keeps giving me errors
[09:30] <Momal> ok its fast at browsing the files going through folders but as soon as I start coping somthing its really slow
[09:31] <flaccid> check the logs
[09:31] <ubuntu> friend... where i can put edubuntu
[09:32] <Momal> after one that says samba started up
[09:32] <Momal> [2006/10/13 17:30:01, 1]  smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(693)
[09:32] <Momal>   vm-win (10.0.5.1) connect to service hdd1 initially as user nobody (uid=65534, gid=65534) (pid 8348)
[09:32] <Momal> thats all it has
[09:32] <flaccid> ok
[09:33] <flaccid> 9/10 your windows install is stuffed in some uknown way. because its closed-source and m$. no way to tell.
[09:33] <flaccid> check event viewer in windows
[09:33] <Momal> yea 10/10 its windows lol...
[09:34] <flaccid> unfortunately
[09:34] <ubuntu> friend... where i can put edubuntu
[09:34] <max_> hello? can anyone help please
[09:34] <flaccid> at least you have an ok samba config now
[09:34] <flaccid> !ask > max
[09:34] <flaccid> !ask > max_
[09:35] <dude> what is the command for showing the version of KDE?
[09:35] <ubuntu> max_: im from central kalimantan university, want put edubuntu freeShip
[09:35] <Momal> The redirector failed to determine the connection type. <-- MRxSmb said its a warning and there is tons of them
[09:36] <max_>  hi, can anyone help me...im having problems unpacking a .7z file, my p7zip keeps giving me errors
[09:36] <flaccid> MaKaTiGuY: dpkg -l | grep -i kde | grep kdebase
[09:36] <Healot> max_:ask ahead
[09:36] <MaKaTiGuY> tnx
[09:36] <flaccid> Momal: ?
[09:37] <max_> ask what?
[09:37] <flaccid> your question, max
[09:37] <max_> i did
[09:37] <max_> errr
[09:37] <Healot> can anyone help me?
[09:37] <flaccid> somebody will respond if they can help
[09:37] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i downlaod the version 3.5.5 of KDE
[09:37] <Healot> the answer to that is "ye"
[09:37] <Healot> s
[09:38] <max_> i need help getting p7zip to unpack 7z's
[09:38] <flaccid> MaKaTiGuY: goto http://kubuntu.org and follow the link
[09:38] <flaccid> max_: try ##linux
[09:38] <max_> i installed it, used 7z e <filename>.7z to unpack, but it givs me errors, does anyone run 97zip>
[09:39] <flaccid> i don't
[09:39] <Healot> what are the errors specifically?
[09:39] <flaccid> googling the errors can help
[09:40] <max_> ummm, h/o for error
[09:40] <Momal> This error message is only informational. You can safely ignore it. <-- yea ok microsoft you know jack crap don't you
[09:41] <MaKaTiGuY> who among you are using KDE 3.5.5?
[09:41] <max_> Error: <filename>.7z is not supported archive
[09:41] <flaccid> i am MaKaTiGuY
[09:41] <Momal> I am using it as well
[09:42] <MaKaTiGuY> flaccid: what are the new feautures?
[09:42] <flaccid> MaKaTiGuY: have a read of the changelog
[09:43] <flaccid> http://kde.org/info/3.5.5.php
[09:43] <MaKaTiGuY> k, tnx
[09:43] <flaccid> http://kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.5.php
[09:43] <flaccid> its not much but yeah
[09:43] <killefiz> hmm - is kopete missing from the dapper kde 3.5.5 repository or am I stupid?
[09:43] <flaccid> but you get kopete update
[09:43] <flaccid> killefiz: its there
[09:44] <flaccid> hangong
[09:44] <flaccid> maybe not killefiz
[09:45] <flaccid> killefiz: i think you are right
[09:45] <killefiz> an apt-get install kopete fetches the 3.5.4 package from dapper-backports
[09:45] <flaccid> sudo apt-cache madison kopete
[09:45] <flaccid> its not coming up. correct
[09:45] <killefiz> hmm - so no jabber groupchat yet
[09:45] <killefiz> my other machines run edgy - that does have 0.12.3
[09:45] <flaccid> well 0.12.3 was meant to come with the new kde
[09:45] <max_> healot: can you help?
[09:46] <flaccid> so yeah doesn't loook lik ubuntu packaged it
[09:47] <MaKaTiGuY> flaccid: what is the command line to download KDE 3.5.5 from my terminal window?
[09:48] <flaccid> MaKaTiGuY: did you read the link on the kubuntu homepage?
[09:48] <killefiz> flaccid: it seems to be a packaging problem only
[09:48] <flaccid> yeah package as its not there as you say :)
[09:49] <MaKaTiGuY> flaccid: so i have to download it from the site??
[09:50] <flaccid> MaKaTiGuY: no. did you read this http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php ?
[09:51] <flaccid> you add a repos and then you do an upgrade with your fav. package manager
[09:51] <MaKaTiGuY> ok hold on
[09:51] <maryen> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:52] <MaKaTiGuY> flaccid: how about the wine application, is it included in ver 3.5.2?
[09:53] <flaccid> MaKaTiGuY: wine is not part of kde
[09:53] <maryen> i was gonna ask about that
[09:54] <MaKaTiGuY> flaccid: so what windows emulator should i use? any suggestions?
[09:54] <flaccid> !wine
[09:54] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:54] <flaccid> wine
[09:55] <flaccid> but its not an emulator :)
[09:55] <maryen> wine is not an emulator
[09:55] <maryen> is what wine stands for
[09:55] <MaKaTiGuY> ?
[09:55] <flaccid> yeah
[09:56] <maryen> (W)ine (I)s (N)ot an (E)mulator
[09:56] <flaccid> windows uses the same arch so its not emulation :)
[09:56] <flaccid> maryen is up wit it
[09:57] <maryen> such a confusing acronym tho
[09:58] <Healot> WINE will make you drunk
[09:58] <Momal> windows is really screwy >_<... I rebooted it now it reads from samba fine :S
[09:58] <maryen> VODKA will make you drunk faster tho
[09:59] <flaccid> Momal: yeah sounds right. you got a good samba config out of it then :) share security mode has a lot of issues with election anyway
[09:59] <MaKaTiGuY> what is this error "Su returned with an error." when i click the update manager
[09:59] <flaccid> fermented pumpkin wine sitting on an airconditioner for 3 weeks will make you more drunk :)
[09:59] <Momal> If I wanted to say make it have write access by putting in a user/pass just to that share is that possible?
[09:59] <maryen> (V)odka (O)wes (D)an (K)DE (A)SAP
[10:00] <MaKaTiGuY> what is this error "Su returned with an error." when i click the update manager
[10:00] <maryen> flaccid drank too much pumpkin wine
[10:01] <maryen> what did you enter makati
[10:01] <flaccid> w0a first time konversation crashed on me
[10:01] <flaccid> Momal: yes
[10:01] <maryen> oh no! linux is ending!
[10:01] <Momal> NOOO you left and came back now your name is in another color >_<
[10:01] <Momal> lol
[10:02] <MaKaTiGuY> maryen: i just clicked the update manager
[10:02] <flaccid> zomg
[10:02] <maryen> go to konsole and type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[10:03] <hyper> hello abattoir
[10:03] <MaKaTiGuY> how about the new version ok kde
[10:03] <maryen> huh
[10:03] <maryen> ?
[10:04] <maryen> do as i say before i hax your boxen
[10:04] <flaccid> hehe just update, MaKaTiGuY like what maryen said and you'll get the new kde
[10:04] <hyper> Question: I have dapper on one partition and edgy on the other one. So when I boot up I have tons and tons of entries in grub. If I format now the dapper partition, will grup auto-update the boot entries?
[10:04] <flaccid> hehe
[10:04] <flaccid> hyper: no
[10:04] <hyper> flaccis: so what's the best way of getting rid of the dapper partition then?
[10:05] <flaccid> hyper: sudo update-grub
[10:05] <flaccid> after your parts are how you want
[10:05] <maryen> nuke it and do what flaccid said
[10:05] <hyper> thx flaccid
[10:05] <Lamington> hello
[10:06] <maryen> hi
[10:06] <Lamington> I seem to have a problem reading disks in my dvd drive
[10:06] <maryen> dvd playback?/
[10:06] <maryen> or other problems?
[10:06] <Lamington> other problems
[10:06] <maryen> you handle it flaccid
[10:07] <flaccid> hehe
[10:07] <Lamington> uhmm... my housemate wanted me to use mandvd to put some xvids or something on a dvd for him but I get a malformed url message
[10:08] <Lamington> when I put one of my own disks in it reads it
[10:08] <Lamington> his windows system doesnt like it either... it was burned on a mac
[10:09] <flaccid> obviously the optical media is fux0red :)
[10:10] <Lamington> hmm... I'll just stick it in the mac and check... brb
[10:10] <dude_> maryen:  GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following sign atures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F 120156012B83718
[10:10] <maryen> who is dude?
[10:10] <maryen> you need the gpg key for 3.5.5 im presuming dude
[10:11] <MaKaTiGuY^> ok
[10:11] <flaccid> !find gpg
[10:11] <ubotu> Found: libgpg-error-dev, libgpg-error0, libgpgme11, libgpgme11-dev, gnome-gpg (and 12 others)
[10:11] <flaccid> !find gpgkey
[10:11] <ubotu> Found: gpgkeys
[10:11] <flaccid> !gpgkeys
[10:11] <ubotu> gpgkeys: GPG Keymanagement frontend. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 71 kB, installed size 268 kB
[10:12] <flaccid> hmm
[10:12] <maryen> 'wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg' in konsole makati
[10:12] <maryen> lol flaccid
[10:12] <maryen> !botsnack
[10:12] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:12] <flaccid> we really need a gpg key adding wiki entry for ubotu
[10:12] <maryen> ya
[10:13] <Lamington> back
[10:13] <Lamington> It works fine on the mac
[10:13] <greg__> does anyone here ever have a lot of trouble getting kopete to connect to aim?
[10:13] <Lamington> disk loads ok, you can look at the files... some folders with xvids in them
[10:14] <maryen> its obviously apple's fault, now let's all get some sleep
[10:14] <Lamington> heh
[10:14] <flaccid> Lamington: how is it mounted on mac. use the same mount command.
[10:14] <Lamington> flaccid: no idea :P
[10:14] <Lamington> I'll have another look...
[10:15] <Lamington> brb :P
[10:15] <maryen> bye
[10:15] <MaKaTiGuY^> maryen: i can;t get it than... : (
[10:15] <flaccid> mac os x is unix :)
[10:15] <maryen> huh?
[10:15] <maryen> why not makati
[10:16] <flaccid> is it the right key for the repos
[10:16] <flaccid> there is several mirrors available
[10:16] <maryen> it should be, it came from the 3.5.5 install guide
[10:16] <MaKaTiGuY^> sorry, first time to use linux
[10:16] <maryen> did you see my previous message makati?
[10:17] <flaccid> yeah its the right key
[10:17] <maryen> 'wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg' copy this and paste it into konsole using shift+insert
[10:17] <MaKaTiGuY^> ok
[10:17] <flaccid> i would recommend going to /tmp first :)
[10:17] <maryen> no way
[10:17] <MaKaTiGuY^> its done
[10:18] <maryen> i love key files littering my homefolder
[10:18] <maryen> now try the first step again
[10:18] <flaccid> hehe. but user pwd could be anywhere :)
[10:19] <maryen> 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' MaKaTiGuY^
[10:19] <MaKaTiGuY^> which step? this one? "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[10:19] <maryen> i wish your name wasn't so hard to type
[10:19] <flaccid> yep
[10:19] <maryen> yes
[10:19] <flaccid> hehe
[10:19] <flaccid> no tab complete, maryen?
[10:20] <maryen> OMG a new feature
[10:20] <maryen> this obviously wasn't there before because im far too smart to miss it
[10:20] <MaKaTiGuY^> ok, ill change my nick
[10:20] <flaccid> haha
[10:20] <Me> :)
[10:20] <maryen> lol k
[10:21] <maryen> you not registered flaccid?
[10:21] <Me> :)sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 13 14:32:15 2006
[10:21] <flaccid> i am
[10:21] <maryen> ah i wasn't recognized, try again
[10:22] <flaccid> hehe its always been in konversation iirc afaik :pp
[10:22] <maryen> Me: reboot and try again
[10:22] <flaccid> !find time
[10:22] <ubotu> Found: cracklib-runtime, gij, gij-4.1, kdemultimedia-dev, kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data (and 93 others)
[10:22] <Me> ok
[10:22] <flaccid> !find time synch
[10:22] <maryen> that didn't help much
[10:22] <maryen> lol
[10:22] <flaccid> meh
[10:23] <maryen> c'mon ubotu, show us your wisdom
[10:23] <Me> hehehe, nice...i love linux...
[10:23] <maryen> flaccid, you know how to fix a timestamp error w/o a reboot?
[10:24] <flaccid> um
[10:24] <flaccid> what timestamp are we talking about
[10:24] <livingdaylight> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory ???
[10:24] <maryen> sudo timestamp
[10:24] <maryen> error=sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 13 14:32:15 2006
[10:24] <flaccid> livingdaylight: no configure is with your source or you are in wrong dir
[10:25] <flaccid> isn't that wrong system time?
[10:25] <livingdaylight> trying to install screensaver: kanjisaver-0.9.10.orig
[10:25] <xcyborg> am I missing something or Kopete is not included in the kde-3.5.5 packages for Dapper ?
[10:25] <Lamington> sorry flaccid I'm a bit of a n00b
[10:25] <livingdaylight> flaccid: i'm definitely in the right directory, coz i just un-tarred the tar.gz file
[10:25] <flaccid> xcyborg: doesn't appear to be and i don't know why :(
[10:26] <flaccid> livingdaylight: well there is no configure there :)
[10:26] <flaccid> if there is then chmod it
[10:26] <Momal> Prob just an accidently missed... hopefully it will be put in soon :(
[10:26] <livingdaylight> flaccid: chmod it? *gulp* :s
[10:27] <livingdaylight> flaccid: the INSTALL file said to ./configure; make; sudo make install
[10:27] <fildo> livingdaylight: is it an rpm ?
[10:27] <maryen> sorry, laptop decided i didn't have enough power
[10:27] <fildo> er
[10:27] <fildo> src
[10:28] <Lamington> flaccid: I don't even know where the terminal is buried on a mac :P
[10:28] <livingdaylight> fildo: deb package
[10:28] <livingdaylight> fildo: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/kanjisaver
[10:28] <fildo> n whats the issue
[10:28] <flaccid> livingdaylight: ls -l ./ | grep -i configure
[10:29] <flaccid> livingdaylight: if it doesn't exist, it wasn't included in the archive
[10:30] <livingdaylight> flaccid: what is that command supposed to do? I've pasted it but nothing is coming back
[10:31] <GNUro> kubuntu cd contains fsck.xfs?
[10:31] <flaccid> its the configure command for compiling
[10:31] <livingdaylight> flaccid: is configure something that i need to nstall in kubuntu?
[10:31] <flaccid> livingdaylight: paste me a url to the file you downloaded?
[10:31] <flaccid> livingdaylight: no its included with the package
[10:31] <livingdaylight> flaccid: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/kanjisaver
[10:32] <livingdaylight> flaccid: i downloaded the tar.gz file at the bottom
[10:32] <livingdaylight> flaccid: created a folder in my home directory called screensaver and cd'd there and untarred it
[10:32] <livingdaylight> flaccid: the INSTALL file read ./configure
[10:33] <flaccid> livingdaylight: i would install the .deb instead
[10:33] <Momal> yea i just installed from deb just then works fine lol
[10:33] <flaccid> otherwise you going to need to do sudo apt-get install build-essential to be able to do make
[10:34] <livingdaylight> flaccid: i thought i did :) where is it then?
[10:34] <maryen> livingdaylight, if you wanna install from source, ./configure, make, and make install is the normal routine, but i wouldn't suggest it if you're new to linux
[10:34] <Momal> its a sreensaver... should be where you usualy change screensavers?
[10:34] <flaccid> livingdaylight: its linked from the page you pasted
[10:35] <livingdaylight> flaccid: so why do i only see the tar.gz file version of it?
[10:35] <flaccid> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fk%2Fkanjisaver%2Fkanjisaver_0.9.10-1_i386.deb&md5sum=6eb0b3904531193085b36c754101172e&arch=i386&type=main
[10:35] <livingdaylight> flaccid: sorry, but could you point me to it then
[10:35] <flaccid> ^^ maybe that
[10:35] <livingdaylight> flaccid: thx :)
[10:35] <flaccid> then sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[10:35] <fildo> heeh
[10:35] <maryen> or, sudo apt-get install kanjisaver >.>
[10:35] <Momal> the source does include the configure script
[10:35] <Momal> yea lol
[10:36] <flaccid> hehe yeah
[10:36] <flaccid> yeah you are right lol
[10:36] <flaccid> kanjisaver |    0.9.9-1 | http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[10:36] <flaccid> !kanjisaver
[10:36] <ubotu> kanjisaver: Japanese kanji screensaver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-1 (dapper), package size 88 kB, installed size 300 kB
[10:37] <maryen> ubotu knows everything, he certainly is smart
[10:37] <flaccid> i spank him everyday
[10:37] <maryen> 0.o
[10:37] <flaccid> good bot he is
[10:37] <maryen> he sent me a pm
[10:37] <maryen> smart guy
[10:37] <flaccid> smarter than most
[10:37] <flaccid> he doesn't flood
[10:38] <flaccid> or give you shi7
[10:38] <livingdaylight> Momal: i was trying to download and install a specific screensaver, what are you saying?!
[10:38] <flaccid> livingdaylight: do you have the universe repos enabled?
[10:39] <Momal> you said you thought you installed it so i said you look where you change the screensaver after its isntalled... because you said where is it :p.. didn't know you hadn't had it installed :p... then I was just saying there is a configure script in the source code
[10:39] <Momal> you learning kanji ?
[10:40] <maryen> installing the universe repos is a right of passage in ubuntu
[10:40] <maryen> no more help till you figure it our
[10:40] <livingdaylight> maryen: true, i try and avoid instaling from source as much as possible. And with thousands of packages available in Ubuntu's repos i dont ever usally need to. If one does happen to be one i want that is not included i'm usually caught by the second net of .deb packages which are almost as easy to install. In this case i didn't see that there was a deb package. Having said that i don't understand why ./configure
[10:40] <livingdaylight> didn't work?
[10:40] <flaccid> hehe
[10:40] <maryen> out*
[10:40] <flaccid> livingdaylight: sudo apt-get install kanjisaver
[10:40] <livingdaylight> flaccid: yes, naturally
[10:41] <livingdaylight> flaccid: huh, have we got it in Ubuntu repos already?!
[10:41] <flaccid> livingdaylight: yes0r
[10:41] <livingdaylight> flaccid: OMG!
[10:41] <Momal> lol :p
[10:42] <Momal> you might want to run | apt-get update | everynow and again :p
[10:42] <flaccid> you can thank maryen for dat
[10:42] <grasshopper> maryen: thx for tracking that down
[10:42] <dude> maryen: what is the first step
[10:42] <maryen> lol np
[10:42] <flaccid> ah grasshopper
[10:43] <maryen> 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[10:43] <flaccid> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install nexuiz && echo "Go kick some arse!" && nexuiz
[10:43] <sultanfaik> hola guys
[10:44] <flaccid> hi
[10:44] <Lamington> flaccid: how do I find out what mount command the mac is using ?
[10:44] <flaccid> um
[10:44] <flaccid> Lamington: mount
[10:44] <dude> GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[10:44] <maryen> 0.o
[10:44] <flaccid> maryen: zomg
[10:45] <Lamington> I'm a bit confused is all
[10:45] <maryen> ok dude
[10:45] <Lamington> oh... nevermind, my dumbness... bbs
[10:45] <maryen> enter
[10:45] <maryen>   Business
[10:45] <maryen>   Telephony
[10:45] <maryen>   Games
[10:45] <maryen>   Development
[10:45] <flaccid> Lamington: does mount return anything
[10:45] <livingdaylight> flaccid: too much hassle, now dependency issues *sigh
[10:45] <Lamington> brb
[10:45] <flaccid> interesting
[10:46] <me^> maryen?
[10:46] <Momal> livingdaylight: what is it asking for?
[10:46] <xavier> hi
[10:46] <maryen> oops
[10:46] <xavier> can someone help me install a good pppoe client ... without using xterm?
[10:47] <flaccid> Lamington: mount should return by default on os x
[10:47] <maryen> me^: do ' wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg'
[10:47] <xavier> i found a kpppoe client on google ... but i dont know how o install tar files :( anyone?
[10:47] <maryen> me^: then 'sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg'
[10:47] <me^> ok
[10:47] <me^> tnx
[10:47] <maryen> then the sudo update and upgrade
[10:48] <flaccid> Lamington: cat /etc/fstab
[10:48] <Momal> xavier: kopete should be listed in adept... or sudo apt-get install kopete
[10:49] <livingdaylight> !paste
[10:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:49] <xavier> kopete is an instant messenger program right? i want to connect to my ISP using the PPPOE client
[10:49] <me^> maryen: bunch of characters
[10:49] <Momal> oh my bad thought you were typing kopete and just did a typo :p
[10:50] <me^> what should i do with it
[10:50] <livingdaylight> Momal: doesn't sound healthy does it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26567/
[10:50] <xavier> :) Help!
[10:50] <flaccid> xavier: i'll look for it
[10:50] <maryen> thats fine
[10:50] <maryen> try the first command now
[10:51] <xavier> ty flaccid .. i googled kpppoe .. but i need help installing it
[10:51] <Momal> livingdaylight: by the looks of it... it installed... as for the X errors :S
[10:51] <flaccid> !find pppoe
[10:51] <ubotu> Found: pppoeconf, pppoe
[10:51] <flaccid> !ppoe
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <flaccid> !pppoe
[10:52] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[10:52] <Momal> livingdaylight: Try change your screen saver to it and see if its there
[10:52] <flaccid> there you go xavier
[10:52] <me^> maryen...same error
[10:52] <xavier> i am currently using the long way to do it ...
[10:52] <livingdaylight> Momal: actually first time round i got these dependency issues come up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26568/ but as you say for soem reason it does seem to have installed second time round although those X's scare me
[10:52] <xavier> using xterm to run "pon dsl-provider"
[10:52] <xavier> but i need a graphical icon client thingie .. which i can click to connect/disconnect
[10:53] <maryen> did it download me^?
[10:53] <Momal> livingdaylight: Haha.... any random X errors like that scare me to :p.
[10:53] <livingdaylight> Momal: believe it or not - i'm actually scared to go and try it- i might just go and have a peek and see if it is even there :s
[10:53] <maryen> the gpg file that is
[10:53] <flaccid> i don't know of one, xavier
[10:53] <flaccid> kpppoe you say?
[10:53] <Momal> hahah... just go ahead if it all blows up then start again :D... but it shouln't
[10:53] <xavier> ok .. can u help me install
[10:53] <xavier> yes kpppoe
[10:54] <flaccid> ok
[10:54] <maryen> me^: ?
[10:54] <Momal> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26567/ <-- look at the X errors when you have a chance and tell me if its fixable (they are from livingdaylights pc)
[10:54] <xavier> kpppoe-0.3-1.i386.rpm <<< how to install?
[10:54] <me^> it downloads and saved
[10:54] <xavier> or rp-pppoe-3.8.tar.gz << this one
[10:55] <maryen> then you ran sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg right
[10:55] <livingdaylight> Momal: dude, its actually there!
[10:55] <Momal> ^^... now try it out :p
[10:55] <Momal> I installed from apt-get and it ran fine :p
[10:55] <livingdaylight> Momal: damn...should i click on 'Apply'? *gulp*
[10:55] <me^> yes maryen
[10:55] <Momal> livingdaylight: click Test first and see :)
[10:55] <flaccid> xavier: doesn't appear in sources
[10:55] <maryen> what repos are you using for kde 3.5.5?
[10:56] <livingdaylight> Momal: darn...too late now :)
[10:56] <Momal> lol!
[10:56] <livingdaylight> Momal: what will be will be
[10:56] <flaccid> xavier: have you got a URL for d/l?
[10:56] <xavier> yes flaccid .. thts the problem
[10:57] <xavier> yes hold on pls
[10:57] <Momal> livingdaylight: you can click Test and it will start it up so you can see if it works.. then just click your mouse to get out of it :)
[10:57] <xavier> pls accept
[10:57] <maryen> me^?
[10:57] <me^> whats the nxt step after thissudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gp
[10:57] <me^> whats the nxt step after this sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gp
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> me^: sec
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> as in give one
[10:58] <maryen> well if you're getting the same error, it might be your repository
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago>  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[10:58] <flaccid> me^: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:58] <maryen> what one are you using for kde 3.5.5
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[10:58] <me^> no errors, "ok"
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i don't know what he wanted to do
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i just got here
[10:59] <flaccid> hehe'
[10:59] <livingdaylight> Momal: it works!
[10:59] <Momal> :D
[10:59] <xavier> flaccid:  http://easylinux.info/uploads/rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz
[10:59] <livingdaylight> :D
[10:59] <Momal> livingdaylight: offtopic kinda but are you learning kanji?
[10:59] <me^> :( same error
[10:59] <xavier> flaccid: INFO - http://www.roaringpenguin.com/penguin/openSourceProducts/rpPppoe
[11:00] <carmagon> HOLA
[11:00] <livingdaylight> Momal: errrr... no, lol
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> me^: what are you trying to install?
[11:00] <maryen> me^: what repository are you using fro kde 3.5.5
[11:00] <maryen> for*
[11:00] <livingdaylight> Momal: i just thought i might pick something up subliminally
[11:00] <livingdaylight> carmagon: hola amigo
[11:00] <Momal> livingdaylight: what would be the use of a screensaver showing kanji and its meaning :p
[11:00] <livingdaylight> !es
[11:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:00] <Momal> haha!
[11:00] <maryen> Admiral_Chicago: he's trying to get kde 3.5.5
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> is the one i use
[11:01] <me^> ok hold on
[11:01] <maryen> thats the one i suggest as well
[11:01] <flaccid> xavier: cd /tmp && wget http://easylinux.info/uploads/rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz && tar zxvf ./rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz && cd rp-pppoe-3.6 && sudo ./go
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> if that doesn't work, post your sources.list in a paste bin please
[11:01] <livingdaylight> Momal: i like languages. And i think Kanji is Krazy! a picture for every word?! wow
[11:01] <Momal> lol
[11:02] <xavier> flaccid: hold on one moment .. trying it one by one
[11:02] <livingdaylight> Momal: i find it fascinating. Besides most screensavers are kinda rubbish, so having it do that is no big deal, and exposes me to somethihng interesting
[11:02] <xavier> is this one command?
[11:02] <maryen> you know what's crazier? the japanese use small trees to eat! what hippies!!
[11:02] <flaccid> its several commands in one line
[11:02] <xavier> so just copy and paste?
[11:02] <flaccid> yep
[11:02] <xavier> ty
[11:03] <xavier> flaccid: where can i learn about this sudo apt-get install stuff?
[11:04] <flaccid> !apt-get
[11:04] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:04] <maryen> xavier: it's pretty straightforward
[11:04] <flaccid> xavier: do you have pppoeconf installed?
[11:04] <maryen> xavier: do apt-get --help for a list of commands and their descriptions
[11:04] <xavier> its waiting response from the server
[11:04] <maryen> xavier: as well as apt-cache search to find packages
[11:05] <xavier> hey i have the gz file on my desktop ... can u help me without the wget http thing? i think its stuck there
[11:05] <flaccid> xavier: i'm just redownloading it
[11:05] <xavier> ty maryen .. but i have downloaded a lot of tar.gz files .. and i would love to learn how to install tar files
[11:05] <maryen> xavier: 'cd Desktop'
[11:06] <flaccid> if it is on your dekstiop
[11:06] <xavier> flaccid:  ok
[11:06] <xavier> yea
[11:06] <xavier> flaccid:
[11:06] <xavier> Connecting to easylinux.info|195.13.158.141|:80... connected.
[11:06] <xavier> HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
[11:06] <flaccid> xavier: cd ~/Desktop && tar zxvf ./rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz && cd rp-pppoe-3.6 && sudo ./go
[11:06] <flaccid> the server is failing
[11:06] <maryen> do you have build-essential xavier?
[11:06] <xavier> flaccid: okay .. (fingers crossed)
[11:06] <flaccid> ^^ install from desktop
[11:06] <xavier> yep trying
[11:07] <xavier> oops
[11:07] <xavier> Running ./configure...
[11:07] <flaccid> cd /tmp/ tar zxvf ~/Desktop/rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz && cd rp-pppoe-3.6 && sudo ./go
[11:07] <xavier> checking for gcc... no
[11:07] <flaccid> cool
[11:07] <xavier> checking for cc... no
[11:07] <xavier> checking for cc... no
[11:07] <xavier> checking for cl... no
[11:07] <xavier> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:07] <xavier> See `config.log' for more details.
[11:07] <xavier> Oops!  It looks like ./configure failed.
[11:07] <xavier> umm cool?
[11:07] <maryen> xavier: install build-essential and try again
[11:07] <xavier> maryen: were u talkign abt this?
[11:07] <flaccid> xavier: do sudo apt-get install build-essential first
[11:07] <flaccid> hehe
[11:07] <xavier> okay
[11:08] <xavier> flaccid: without the "first" i hope
[11:08] <flaccid> maryen: its kind of like dual assistance
[11:08] <flaccid> yeah
[11:08] <maryen> yes
[11:08] <xavier> yep .. more the merrier
[11:08] <flaccid> coming up the same things which is good
[11:08] <maryen> except you're the sidekick and I'm batman
[11:08] <flaccid> holy smoke batman
[11:09] <flaccid> holy cheese sandwich
[11:09] <maryen> thats right my chum, he didn't have build-essential installed, that sick psychotic bastard
[11:09] <xavier> whoa 47 megs!!! c u after a nap lol
[11:09] <flaccid> maryen: also do sudo apt-get install pppoeconf first too
[11:09] <flaccid> hehe
[11:09] <xavier> maryen: ermm?? talking about me?
[11:09] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[11:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:10] <maryen> shh your supposed to be the riddler
[11:10] <flaccid> !riddle
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about riddle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <flaccid> !find ridd
[11:10] <maryen> !riddle me this batman
[11:10] <ubotu> Package/file ridd does not exist in dapper
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about riddle me this batman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <flaccid> ubotu needs some learned gotham
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs some learned gotham - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <flaccid> exactly...
[11:11] <maryen> no one asked you ubotu
[11:11] <maryen> you speak when spoken to only
[11:11] <flaccid> rofl
[11:12] <maryen> !hans reiser
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hans reiser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <maryen> bah, at least get some bios in ubotu
[11:12] <maryen> !linus
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <maryen> -.-
[11:13] <maryen> !torvalds
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <flaccid> !tux
[11:13] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[11:13] <flaccid> heh
[11:13] <maryen> omg, he knows tux but not linus
[11:13] <flaccid> !add flaccid = n00b
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about add flaccid = n00b - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <Ash-Fox> Where the heck do I set the default browser to a custom one for GTK applications?
[11:13] <maryen> Ash-fox = huh
[11:13] <maryen> ?
[11:14] <maryen> !gtk applications
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk applications - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <Ash-Fox> GTK/Gnome applications, they keep starting up Konqueror, it's annoying because my default HTML viewer in KDE is set to a custom build of firefox I made
[11:15] <maryen> do you mean kde?
[11:15] <Ash-Fox> No.
[11:15] <Ash-Fox> KDE applications start up the correct browser just fine.
[11:16] <zorglu_> Ash-Fox: there is a gnome utility you can luanch via command line to set this up
[11:16] <maryen> try system settings -> Default applications
[11:16] <zorglu_> Ash-Fox: i already did it but i dont remember the name
[11:16] <maryen> oh wait, thats on edgy
[11:16] <flaccid> "in the following browser:" what is that set to?
[11:16] <Ash-Fox> zorglu_, what is the application called, since I don't have gnome installed?
[11:16] <Ash-Fox> flaccid, it's set to determine what application launch based on the MIME type, and the HTML mime type is set to the custom firefox build I made.
[11:16] <zorglu_> Ash-Fox: dont remember but it is gnome-blablalba with something about configuration
[11:17] <maryen> what happened to me^ btw
[11:18] <flaccid> !me
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <maryen> ubotu doesn't have a very good memory ;.;
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn't have a very good memory ;.; - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <flaccid> ubotus loves linux
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s loves linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <maryen> ubotu needs to shut its fat face
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs to shut its fat face - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <flaccid> ubotu loves linux
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loves linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <maryen> ubotu scorched3d
[11:20] <ubotu> scorched3d: 3D artillery game similar to Scorched Earth. In component universe, is optional. Version 39.1+cvs20050929-2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 938 kB, installed size 2480 kB
[11:21] <maryen> ubotu kde 3.5.5
[11:21] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[11:21] <Ash-Fox> !fishing
[11:21] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[11:21] <maryen> uh oh
[11:21] <flaccid> all defensive now ubotu
[11:21] <maryen> ubotu is gonna tattle on me
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is gonna tattle on me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <maryen> shhhhh
[11:22] <Ash-Fox> Seriously, it's annoying.
[11:22] <flaccid> gotta calm the pets down
[11:22] <maryen> i keep forgetting saying its name activates it
[11:23] <maryen> from now on u.b.o.t.u will be known as 'he-who-must-not-be-named'
[11:23] <flaccid> the bot formerly know as
[11:23] <maryen> i didn't know prince used to be a bot
[11:23] <flaccid> rumours
[11:24] <maryen> ok im tired
[11:25] <maryen|zzz> g'nite
[11:25] <flaccid> cia0
[11:25] <Ash-Fox> It would be nice if Kubuntu used DKMS for things like proprietory/restricted kernel modules
[11:25] <maryen|zzz> personally i think proprietary modules are fine the way they are
[11:26] <maryen|zzz> they make you learn a little more about your system
[11:26] <zorglu_> whaat is dkms ?
[11:26] <Ash-Fox> They don't really, they just waste my time
[11:26] <maryen|zzz> !dkms
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dkms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Ash-Fox> DKMS - Dell Kernel Management System. It's a specific piece of software that will automatically compile kernel modules for any kernel the system boots and will install them
[11:27] <maryen|zzz> Ash-Fox: it takes me at most 6 minutes to uninstall and reinstall my extra modules  after a kernel upgrade
[11:27] <zorglu_> oh like a .deb but for kernel module then, seems good to me too
[11:28] <maryen|zzz> considering kernel upgrades are rare on a stable release thats not too much
[11:28] <Ash-Fox> It's useful for me, because I need to run a custom kernel on my hardware because I cannot use preemptive kernels on my hardware without it locking up
[11:28] <gradin> hi guys i gotta problem...
[11:28] <gradin> my kubuntu won't allow me to login...
[11:28] <Momal> any error it gives back ?
[11:28] <cpk2> hrmm kaffeine doesnt seem to like it when I fast forward when using subs heh
[11:28] <zorglu_> well if people like .deb, instead of compiling themselves the programm, they will like dkms for the saem reasons
[11:28] <Ash-Fox> It's also a lot easier to get packages like vmware-player etc. automatically updated for a new kernel when it just came out as a update int he repositories.
[11:28] <gradin> i can login via the console
[11:29] <Ash-Fox> zorglu_, DKMS is not a package manager.
[11:29] <gradin> but when i attempt to login to the kde login it blackscreens with the mouse then kicks me back to the loging screen
[11:29] <zorglu_>  DKMS - Dell Kernel Management System. It's a specific piece of software that will automatically compile kernel modules for any kernel the system boots and will install them <- this matches a package manager definition, no ?
[11:29] <Ash-Fox> zorglu_, and distrobutions like Mandriva have been using it package managers, it really simplifies things.
[11:30] <Ash-Fox> *it with package managers
[11:30] <cpk2> gradin: i had thsi problem before but cant remember what it was or how i fixed it =X
[11:30] <gradin> last time it worked was the day before yesterday
[11:30] <Momal> you done anything recently that might have changed settings?
[11:30] <maryen|zzz> Ash-Fox: but it also decreases the demand for proper open-source drivers, which we should be striving for
[11:30] <gradin> it was running and then it locked up for some reason over night...
[11:30] <zorglu_> gradin: what have you changed since yesterday ?///
[11:30] <gradin> i rebooted it and since then i haven't been able to login
[11:30] <gradin> nothing...
[11:30] <zorglu_> gradin: hehe :) well it is not possible :)
[11:31] <gradin> i was downloading a lot of random files
[11:31] <gradin> how much harddrive space does it take to be able to login?
[11:31] <Momal> downloading and install or downloading and overwriting or just downloading ?
[11:31] <zorglu_> gradin: during the kde login , it meets an error which wasnt there before
[11:31] <Ash-Fox> grandin, did you perhaps install a new version of KDE?
[11:31] <gradin> no
[11:31] <maryen|zzz> well im gone, goodnight
[11:31] <zorglu_> gradin: ok put the output of 'df' on pastebin
[11:31] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[11:31] <Ash-Fox> (Since 3.5.5 came out on the mirrors yesterday)
[11:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:32] <gradin> there is no error message it just returns to the login screen
[11:32] <gradin> 'df'?
[11:32] <zorglu_> gradin: it give the disk usage
[11:32] <gradin> ah...
[11:32] <gradin> it says 100% in use, but using samba i already pulled 1 gig of space off the disk...
[11:32] <gradin> unless...
[11:32] <zorglu_> put the output in pastebin
[11:33] <m4x1mum> arrghh im so pissed off, why is my screen saver not working???
[11:33] <gradin> zorglu_ i'd have to type it all up...
[11:33] <m4x1mum> is it kubuntu bug or something?
[11:33] <zorglu_> grabin: why ? cutpast doesnt work ?
[11:33] <shanky> good morning
[11:33] <gradin> zorglu_ i'm on a different machine...
[11:34] <gradin> cuz i can't get a gui login on that one...
[11:34] <zorglu_> grabin: answer my question :) it will be much faster :)
[11:34] <shanky> I have a dapper installed, to upgrade to edgy, is as simple as change the /etc/apt/sources.list replacing dapper with edgy?
[11:34] <zorglu_> grabin: can you run 'df' on the box ?
[11:34] <gradin> yes, console mode works
[11:34] <gradin> it says /dev/hda1 is at 100%
[11:35] <gradin> in use
[11:35] <simona> I have installed the kde version of ubuntu, but where is the command to install the package
[11:35] <zorglu_> ok :) have fun :)
[11:35] <gradin> i pulled off some files using samba earlier
[11:35] <gradin> so it shouldn't be full...
[11:35] <gradin> is there a way i can do the equivilent of scan disk for linux from the command prompt?
[11:35] <cpk2> gradin: df
[11:36] <Ouaaahhhh> shanky : i did that and screw everything. I reinstall :-(
[11:36] <simona> scuse me but I don't spek very well in english
[11:36] <flaccid> !fsck
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <flaccid> hmm
[11:36] <m4x1mum> is screensaver not working a kubuntu problem?
[11:37] <shanky> Ouaaahhhh: ok, I take the advice
[11:38] <gradin> zorglu_ i have reason to belive the ext3 fs table may be bad, is there a way i can do a scan of that?
[11:38] <zorglu_> !it > simona
[11:38] <zorglu_> simona: if you prefere italian
[11:38] <simona> tes
[11:38] <simona> yes
[11:38] <simona> I prefer italian
[11:38] <cpk2> gradin: yes there is
[11:39] <simona> but how I have to do
[11:39] <flaccid> gradin: fsck
[11:39] <zorglu_> simona: /join #ubuntu-it
[11:39] <simona> ah ok thanks
[11:39] <simona> bye
[11:40] <zorglu_> bye :)
[11:40] <dthacker> Hello:  I'm attempting to install Adobe Reader.  I've added the repositories specified in the How to add additional repositories page, but the package acroread is still not found.  Does anyone know the specific repository, so I can verify my sources.list entries?  Thanks.
[11:40] <gradin> k i cleared 500 mb and now i'm rebooting...
[11:41] <zorglu_> !info acroread
[11:41] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 22263 kB, installed size 53192 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:42] <zorglu_> dthacker: acroread is available in multiverse
[11:42] <zorglu_> !universe
[11:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:42] <zorglu_> !sourceomatic
[11:42] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:42] <m4x1mum> damn it, it is a freakin kubuntu bug
[11:42] <zorglu_> dthacker: those 2 links will helps you to get multiverse repository
[11:42] <dthacker> zorglu: thanks, I'll start reading
[11:43] <shanky> !edgy
[11:43] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:44] <m4x1mum> !kde
[11:45] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[11:45] <xavier> where can i find "xmms-mpg123" ???
[11:45] <cpk2> !info xmms-mpg123
[11:45] <ubotu> Package xmms-mpg123 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:46] <gradin> sweet, i'm back up and running
[11:46] <gradin> thanks guys
[11:46] <Ayabara> I just installed beagle. Is Kerry the frontend I should use in kubuntu?
[11:47] <zorglu_> yep it is the kde frontend for beagle
[11:49] <dthacker> Regarding sudo.  By default,is any user allowed to sudo for root tasks or just the first user created at install time?
[11:50] <fdoving> dthacker: the first user created during install.
[11:50] <dthacker> fdoving: thanks
[11:51] <fdoving> dthacker: basically the users that are memebers of the admin group.
[11:51] <dthacker> ok
[11:55] <Fatal> PLZ to be _NOT_ shipping xmms-mad as default for people? k, thx, omg lol bbq
[11:55] <flaccid> heje
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone on edgy having konqueror problems
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> i jut updated to 3.5.5
[11:58] <andhy> i haven't - what kind of problems do you have ?
[11:59] <Tm_T> Fatal: Because?
[11:59] <memikep> hello
[11:59] <m4x1mum> guys, is there a kde theme? the icons in kde is so large
[11:59] <Fatal> Tm_T: it <profanity> <random animal parts>
[11:59] <andhy> m4x1mum: change them to smaller ;)
[12:00] <Tm_T> Fatal: Give me proper point and I might agree with you.
[12:00] <Fatal> Tm_T: but more to the point, it does fail on more songs than the default one, has worse id3 support, does not equalize the sound and is a general nuisance
[12:00] <Tm_T> I see.
[12:01] <Admiral_Chicago> and
[12:01] <Tm_T> Well, I don't really care, I use Amarok <3
[12:01] <Admiral_Chicago> andhy: it won't open at all
[12:01] <Fatal> it's of little to concern to us, we always ask the user if they have xmms-mad installed and tell them to remove it
[12:01] <Fatal> *shrugs*
[12:01] <m4x1mum> erm how?
[12:01] <Tm_T> Fatal: I see, is there bug filed?
[12:01] <Fatal> i was apalled to learn that kubuntu ships it installed
[12:01] <Fatal> heck if i know, i don't use any *buntu
[12:01] <DjDarkman> hy "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" what package do I need?
[12:02] <Admiral_Chicago> it gives me "/usr/lib/kde3/konq_iconview.so: undefined symbol:" erroyr
[12:02] <Fatal> we just have to deal with the gentoo and kubuntu people when they drop by :)
[12:02] <andhy> Admiral_Chicago: go to console and make apt-get update + apt-get upgrade + apt-get dist-upgrade ;)
[12:02] <Tm_T> Fatal: Check and file bug report if there's none, I don't know a thing about xmms.
[12:02] <Fatal> why would i?
[12:02] <Fatal> it's your users you're buttfucking :)
[12:03] <fdoving> DjDarkman: xlibs-dev
[12:03] <Admiral_Chicago> !language > Fatal
[12:03] <DjDarkman> thank you
[12:03] <Tm_T> Admiral_Chicago: :)
[12:03] <Fatal> we're used to spot xmms-mad problems by now, just sad that the users of your dist has to pay the price of the maintainers ignorance :)
[12:03] <Fatal> thanks for listening
[12:04] <Tm_T> Fatal: Concern noted, I hope problem will be solved.
[12:04] <Tm_T> But there's nothing I can do but file bug, but I don't use xmms at all so...
[12:04] <flaccid> a bug is a bug
[12:04] <flaccid> not matter what
[12:05] <Tm_T> That's propably Ubuntu problem more than Kubuntu one I think.
[12:05] <Tm_T> Back to hack ->
[12:07] <andhy> Admiral_Chicago: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> andhy: i'll give it a shot
[12:11] <andhy> Admiral_Chicago: i have no idea
[12:14] <Ouaaahhhh> plz hlp : i add firefox w/ adept and it's not in the menu
[12:14] <andhy> Ouaaahhhh: go to menu editor
[12:15] <Ouaaahhhh> andhy : u mean kmenuedit ?
[12:15] <dthacker> I've constructed a new sources.list from source-o-matic, and I'm still not able to find package acroread.  Would someone be willing to look at my sources.list here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26570/
[12:16] <andhy> Ouaaahhhh: it should be
[12:16] <cpk2> dthacker: i think the us repos are currently down
[12:16] <Ouaaahhhh> nothing in kmenuedit
[12:17] <cpk2> dthacker: nevermind i guess they are back up
[12:17] <cpk2> dthacker: you do apt-get update?
[12:17] <Ouaaahhhh> i'm suprised menu is not auto. updated
[12:17] <dthacker> cpk2,  I did my update through adept.  Let me give the cl a try..... tnx
[12:17] <andhy> Ouaaahhhh: ;)
[12:18] <cpk2> dthacker: it should be the same, however the us repos werent responding not  minutes ago
[12:18] <Ouaaahhhh> ?
[12:18] <Ouaaahhhh> is this a bug ?
[12:19] <cpk2> not 5 minutes ago*
[12:19] <andhy> Ouaaahhhh: simply add new position
[12:20] <dthacker> cpk2: check this out, is this a non-responding repo?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26571/
[12:21] <cpk2> dthacker: yes, they might still be down =)
[12:21] <cpk2> dthacker: you can take out the us. and it should redirect to GB i think
[12:22] <dthacker> cpk2: vi to the rescue.  I'll give that a try.
[12:23] <dthacker> cpk2: are the GPG keys the same, or do I need to regen?
[12:23] <cpk2> dthacker: i think they are the same
[12:23] <dthacker> cpk2: ty
[12:25] <hyper> In what file can I route a certain domain query to a specific IP address?  e.g.   www.mydomain.com --> 127.0.0.1 ?
[12:25] <fdoving> hyper: /etc/hosts.allow
[12:25] <fdoving> ehm.
[12:25] <fdoving> make that /etc/hosts
[12:26] <hyper> fdoving: ok... so it's also a hosts file like on windows :) thx
[12:27] <andhy> hyper: no ;) windows have host file based on linuxlike systems ;)
[12:28] <fdoving> but it's the same. :)
[12:28] <hyper> andhy: what?
[12:28] <andhy> fdoving: sure ;)
[12:28] <Ouaaahhhh> andhy : katapult : how to update list of applications ?
[12:28] <cpk2> so i heard the new kde update fixed 1200 (twelve hundred!!!) bugs?
[12:29] <cpk2> might actually be worth upgrading, once the repo is on kubuntu.org its presumably safe correct?
[12:29] <andhy> Ouaaahhhh: where ?
[12:29] <wildchild> helllo there
[12:30] <wildchild> How can I install XGL with compiz on my amd64 and nvidia
[12:30] <fdoving> !xgl
[12:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:33] <dthacker> cpk2: that worked. I now have acroread installed.  Thanks to all for the help.
[12:33] <Ouaaahhhh> i want to be able to launch firefox from katapult
[12:33] <dthacker> Will ubuntu have to use the ice weasel fork instead of firefox for Edgy?
[12:34] <Ouaaahhhh> after doing alt+ space and typing tha fourth letter : fire , firefox is not found in katapult
[12:35] <cpk2> thats the second time i have heard this talk about ice weasel and fire fox
[12:35] <cpk2> now i have to google ice weasel
[12:36] <dhq> !sources
[12:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:36] <dhq> !source
[12:37] <dhq> !sourcelist
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <fdoving> !source-o-maitc
[12:37] <fdoving> !source-o-matic
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source-o-maitc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:37] <dthacker> cpk2: It's an argument between Debian and the Mozilla Foundation over trademark.  Moz says that FF *must* be distributed with artwork intact.  Debian say that such requirements make FF not free and they will use a fork called Ice Weasel
[12:37] <dhq> how do i reconfigure my soedgyurces to
[12:38] <dhq> how do i reconfigure my sources to edgy
[12:38] <cpk2> dthacker: just read the wiki =P
[12:39] <dthacker> cpk2: unfortunately I can see valid points on both sides.  Forks get ugly to maintain, though
[12:40] <dthacker> Is there a statement on Ubuntu's wiki?
[12:42] <dude_> what is the update manager of kubuntu?
[12:43] <livingdaylight> is it kdesu kate?
[12:43] <livingdaylight> what is the kubuntu sudo equivalent for guis?
[12:43] <cpk2> livingdaylight: yes
[12:44] <fdoving> livingdaylight: kdesu
[12:44] <Lechero> what editor i could to open binary files?
[12:44] <livingdaylight> thx, guys
[12:44] <dude_> what is the update manager of kubuntu?
[12:44] <fdoving> dude_: adept
[12:44] <cpk2> dthacker: i think i heard that ubuntu is *not* debian and that there arent any problems with ubuntu and firefox?
[12:45] <dthacker> cpk2: well, hopefully not.
[12:45] <cpk2> i am fine with konq anyways so i dont see the problem
[12:45] <cpk2> i actually migrated to konq when i switched from windows to kubuntu
[12:47] <livingdaylight> !paste
[12:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:48] <cpk2> oh boy livingdaylight is gonna paste something =P
[12:48] <livingdaylight> cpk2: heheh...don't worry :)
[12:48] <livingdaylight> cpk2: my java situation is Kool
[12:49] <dude_> can any one help me to update my kubuntu, coz, im getting errors while updating
[12:49] <cpk2> what errors?
[12:50] <dude_> GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[12:51] <cpk2> dude_: did you follow the instructions from kubuntu.org?
[12:51] <dude_> ya
[12:51] <dude_> i did] 
[12:51] <cpk2> did you wget the key?
[12:51] <dude_> what seem to be the problem
[12:51] <dude_> what seems to be the problem
[12:52] <dude_> yes i did
[12:52] <dude_> but everytime tym i update, there goes the error
[12:52] <cpk2> and you did apt-key add ?
[12:52] <dude_> yes and it was saved
[12:53] <dude_> what should i do
[12:53] <cpk2> dude_: are you using this repo? deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main
[12:53] <serishema> if i have dapper whats the easiest way to update to the latest on a couple of machines? preferably only downloading everything once and not twice?
[12:53] <dude_> 3.5.2
[12:54] <dude_> im using 3.5.2
[12:54] <dude_> KDE 3.5.2
[12:55] <cpk2> dude_: what are you trying to upgrade?
[12:55] <dude_> KDE
[12:55] <dude_> KDE 3.5.2 to KDE 3.5.5
[12:55] <cpk2> so why dont you use the repo the kubuntu site recommends and follow the instructions there?
[12:56] <dude_> i think i did
[12:56] <cpk2> i didnt see packages.freecontrib.org anywhere...
[12:57] <dude_> can you help me on this? this is my first time to use linux
[12:57] <yeti> is there a repository that carries more recent versions of common programs? i'd need amarok 1.4.x, and the latest i can find is 1.3.x
[12:59] <cpk2> yeti: backports
[12:59] <yeti> cpk2, i have enabled backports, but it doesn't have a recent amarok :(
[12:59] <dude_> cpk2: can you help me on this? this is my first time to use linux
[01:01] <cpk2> dude_: follow these directions http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[01:01] <cpk2> yeti: one second let me check my repo list
[01:01] <cpk2> yeti:
[01:01] <cpk2> # kubuntu.org packages for the latest amaroK version (packages, GPG key: DD4D5088)
[01:01] <cpk2> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main
[01:02] <yeti> cpk2: oh great :D is there a list of repos like that one?
[01:02] <cpk2> !easysource
[01:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:03] <cpk2> has latest kde latest koffice
[01:03] <cpk2> latest open office i think
[01:04] <yeti> thank you
[01:06] <yeti> silly me, backports has a more recent version, just forgot to fetch updates
[01:06] <yeti> is backports considered safe in general?
[01:06] <dude_> cpk2: im getting the same error
[01:06] <Momal> grasshopper: are you livingdaylight?
[01:06] <Momal> yay
[01:06] <cpk2> dude_: paste your sources.list
[01:06] <serishema> yeti: they aren't officially supported but i run a number of apps from there and i haven't had any problems.
[01:07] <serishema> yeti: they probably aren't as secure though if you are worried about security
[01:07] <livingdaylight> Momal: yo dog - HOmeboy!
[01:07] <livingdaylight> Momal: hahahahaha
[01:07] <Momal> livingdaylight: work ?
[01:07] <Momal> ^^
[01:07] <livingdaylight> Momal:  you the Man
[01:08] <ninHer> hi all
[01:09] <cpk2> i'm curious the kubuntu page says that 3.5.5 packages are available for i386, AMD64 and PowerPC, but i am using i686, thats not a problem is it?
[01:10] <cpk2> with kde nonetheless!
[01:10] <dude_> cpk2: sources.list?
[01:11] <cpk2> dude_: kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <dude_> where should i paste it?
[01:13] <dude_> here?
[01:16] <cpk2> !pastebin
[01:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:16] <cpk2> dude_: use that
[01:16] <cpk2> dude_: however reading the forum it looks like you might run into troubles upgrading to 3.5.5
[01:16] <dude_> y?
[01:17] <dude_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26579/
[01:18] <killefiz> flaccid: kopete 0.12.3 is there now for dapper
[01:19] <flaccid> oh excellent
[01:20] <dude_> flaccid: same error
[01:20] <flaccid> dude_: huh?
[01:21] <dude_> flaccid: when i update my KDE
[01:22] <cpk2> hrmm dude_ you still didnt bother following what kubuntu.org suggests doing to get 3.5.5
[01:22] <cpk2> i'm curious the kubuntu page says that 3.5.5 packages are available for i386, AMD64 and PowerPC, but i am using i686, thats not a problem is it?
[01:23] <fdoving> cpk2: no, you'll get the i386 packages.
[01:23] <el1984> hello
[01:23] <cpk2> fdoving: hmm I wonder if build-dep would be easy for 3.5.5 =P
[01:23] <cpk2> i still havent tried making my own package with apt-get
[01:24] <fdoving> i would not recommend kde as a test-project :)
[01:24] <fdoving> it's huge.
[01:24] <dude_> cpk2
[01:24] <dude_> i did
[01:25] <cpk2> fdoving: either way I will need to download kde while I am sleeping =D
[01:25] <Momal> anyone had prob with new kopete? i just installed it and kopete crashes on each start :s
[01:25] <el1984> sleep? what's that? ;)
[01:25] <cpk2> fdoving: but to clarify, I need to do apt-get build-dep and then dpkg -b kde?
[01:26] <cpk2> el1984: its this thing crazy people attempt to do
[01:27] <fdoving> cpk2: let's use adept as an example,as it's doable. 'apt-get build-dep adept' and then 'apt-get -b adept' would work :)
[01:27] <el1984> cpk2:  ah, I forgot 2 do that since 2 days lol, had alot of trouble with my linux :(
[01:27] <fdoving> cpk2: are you aware that you can set a download limit on apt-get? you can for example limit it to 10kb/s download.
[01:28] <cpk2> fdoving: brief run through of man doesnt mention it...
[01:29] <Momal> anyone installed latest kopete yet ????
[01:29] <cpk2> and its not really that it sucks my bandwidth, its that I only have a 30kB/s down pipe
[01:29] <cpk2> i suppose I could use my roommates internet to get it, he has about 300kB/s down =)
[01:29] <ricanelite> Is anyone here running Ubuntu Linux on a Apple machine?
[01:30] <cpk2> fdoving: so in theory apt-get build-dep kde and apt-get -b kde should work?
[01:30] <el1984> Momal:  what's the latest version?
[01:30] <Momal> its liek 0.12.3 i think something similar just updated with kde 3.5.5
[01:30] <fdoving> cpk2: well, if kde were a real package, that would work.
[01:31] <Momal> just saw it listed in the repos since someone said it was in the channel
[01:31] <Momal> seems after install kopete crashes on start up :S
[01:31] <cpk2> fdoving: so I would have to go through all 280 packages and build them?
[01:31] <cpk2> could I && that? =P
[01:34] <cpk2> actually kde says 3.5.5 has 14 or so source packages
[01:34] <fdoving> grabbing the source and building it would be a good way.
[01:34] <el1984> I should alsoswitch to 3.5.5
[01:34] <el1984> still using 3.5.2
[01:35] <cpk2> and shouldnt konstruct work?
[01:35] <fdoving> you won't get .deb packages, as far as i'm aware.
[01:36] <fdoving> cpk2: before i forget it, if you want to limit the apt-get max bandwidth (for http-source), you can set "Acquire::http::Dl-Limit "10";" in /etc/apt/apt.conf 10 is for 10KB/sec, etc.
[01:36] <cpk2> the konstruct meta/everything sure looks enticing too
[01:36] <livingdaylight> !paste
[01:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:37] <cpk2> fdoving: ok, thanks
[01:39] <cpk2> is there an apt-get meta package for kde everything?
[01:39] <fdoving> kubuntu-desktop is the closest, as far as i know.
[01:44] <Momal> how to load back to older kopete mines broke?
[01:45] <fdoving> Momal: can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy kopete' ?
[01:47] <Momal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26583/
[01:47] <cpk2> is there even a noticeable difference when you build from source?
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> wow kde 3.5.5 is allot faster on dapper
[01:49] <el1984> hm how do I switch to 3.5.5 ?
[01:49] <el1984> still running into 3.5.2
[01:49] <Linux_Galore> el1984: goto www.ubuntu.org  follow the link highlight the first repo listed and add it into adept
[01:50] <cpk2> el1984:
[01:50] <cpk2> # kubuntu.org packages for the latest KDE version (packages, GPG key: DD4D5088)
[01:50] <cpk2> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[01:50] <el1984> thxalot u both
[01:50] <Momal> linux_galore did you update kopete to 0.12.3?
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> I dont use kopete
[01:51] <Momal> damn i think somethings wrong with it because i updated and now it crashes everytime i run it :S
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> it has installed 0.12.3
[01:51] <Momal> jsut try to run it see if it runs
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> Momal: dod you run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> did
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> Momal: also might want to reboot just to make sure its all flushed too
[01:52] <Momal> yea it didn't seem to run anything :S
[01:52] <Momal> yea rebooted as well :p
[01:52] <livingdaylight> Momal: yea, baby
[01:52] <Momal> haha
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> Momal: well I had to answer two questions when i ran sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:53] <Linux_Galore> both kde related
[01:53] <livingdaylight> my resolution has just shrunk
[01:53] <xavier> hi i installed xmms using Adept and then when i installed a plugin for xmms it gave an error at the end ..saying "xmms-config not found"
[01:53] <xavier> there is no such entry in Adept
[01:53] <Momal> am i good or what :p... beryl running livingdaylight with effects and all?
[01:53] <xavier> !xmms-config
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmms-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <Momal> oh strange i'll try reboot again in sec and see if it wants to do anything
[01:53] <livingdaylight> Momal: you da Bomb!
[01:54] <livingdaylight> Momal: give me some keys?
[01:54] <xavier> anybody know reasons for the "xmms-config not found" error
[01:54] <xavier> ?
[01:54] <livingdaylight> Momal: how do i get an effect now?
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> Momal: kopete works fine here
[01:54] <Momal> linux_galore: thanks will try reboot again soon
[01:58] <Linux_Galore> I fliped over to adsl2+ yesterday add in a new kde release and Im a happy geek
[01:59] <Momal> :O what part of aussie linux_galore?
[01:59] <Linux_Galore> Sydney
[01:59] <el1984> and I tried to update and the kde update didn't work
[02:00] <Linux_Galore> el1984: ok what did you do
[02:00] <Linux_Galore> el1984: so you went to kubuntu.org right
[02:01] <el1984> I added the lines into the sources list,
[02:01] <Linux_Galore> el1984: you only need to add 1 line
[02:01] <el1984> but didn't work: GPG error
[02:01] <el1984> yeah the first lline's commented with a #
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> el1984: no you only need to add 1 line from the many listed on the kubuntu page
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> el1984: the first one is all you need
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> el1984: it also explains how to setup the gpg key too on the same page
[02:03] <el1984> 2sec, have to look at the site
[02:03] <el1984> don't understand what ya mean with: follow the link highlight the first repo listed
[02:04] <cpk2> el1984: those 2 lines i gave you was the key and the repo =P
[02:04] <el1984> cpk2:  and those 2 lines, I did add :)
[02:04] <Linux_Galore> el1984: ok Linux has a built in cut and past cache  whatever you highlight automatically goes into the paste cache
[02:05] <cpk2> el1984:
[02:05] <cpk2> # gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
[02:05] <cpk2> # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[02:05] <Linux_Galore> el1984: so lets say I highlight the first repo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main
[02:05] <cpk2> el1984: replace KEY with the key in what i gave you
[02:05] <el1984> cpk2:  I have to add that into the sources.list?
[02:06] <Linux_Galore> el1984: no
[02:06] <cpk2> el1984: no, you ignore the #
[02:06] <cpk2> oops
[02:06] <cpk2> hehe
[02:06] <el1984> that's what I thought
[02:06] <el1984> :)
[02:06] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: ok he's all your thanks for jumping in half way through and confusing him more
[02:06] <cpk2> =(
[02:06] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: enjoy doing what Ive just dont all over again
[02:07] <cpk2> well i already gave him the repo, so all he needs is to do those 2 commands
[02:07] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: what you posted means this ti him $@!@#!%#$^^%^^^%
[02:07] <cpk2> and he can even paste that into his sources list to remind him =)
[02:08] <ricanelite> Anyone here use Ubuntu Linux on a Mac Machine? Or if someone could help me out!! a linux newbie here and very CONFUSE!!
[02:08] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: unless you "explain" why dont post it
[02:08] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: it just confuses peeople
[02:09] <el1984> well I understand some, just donno where to write that gpg stuff :)
[02:09] <xavier> many packages like flash plugin, java, thunderbird, "xmms-dev" etc give errors during installing :( any specific reasons?
[02:09] <Linux_Galore> el1984: you dont
[02:09] <Linux_Galore> el1984: two steps wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[02:09] <cpk2> well wgetting and apt-key add following the kubuntu.org sites probably means ^#^@%@ as well
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> el1984: and sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[02:10] <fdoving> ricanelite: what is your problem?
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> el1984: as stated on the page
[02:10] <el1984> sudo? *beurk* :) that was the first thing I putted out :)
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> el1984: do you know how to cut and past text in Linux on the fly
[02:10] <ricanelite> well I'm trying to install Java and I'm having really hard time I have been reading directions and still cannot get it. So can you please help me out??
[02:11] <Linux_Galore> el1984: its a feature not in windows
[02:11] <el1984> ctrl +c and shift insert
[02:11] <Linux_Galore> el1984: even easier
[02:11] <cpk2> ricanelite: you have a 32bit system?
[02:11] <el1984> with the middle mouse buttoin I guess?
[02:11] <fdoving> Linux_Galore: selected text is automatically 'cut'.. to paste, middle click if you have 3 mouse buttons or click both mouse buttons at once if you have two.
[02:11] <el1984> i select the stuff, and middle mouse click wasn't ti?
[02:11] <fdoving> Linux_Galore: you can also use shift+insert to paste.
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> el1984: yes  just highlight the test and middle mouse button over the spot you want ot past the text and that it, works even in a terminal
[02:12] <ricanelite> I have a G4!
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> text
[02:12] <ricanelite> which im pretty sure is 32 bit
[02:12] <cpk2> ricanelite: its not a ppc?
[02:13] <ricanelite> well it is a Mac Mini Machine!
[02:13] <Linux_Galore> el1984: so highlight the first line that shows the gpg stuff, ie the wget one
[02:13] <ricanelite> so im pretty sure because on the cover of the Ubuntu CD it says PPC
[02:13] <el1984> wget already done
[02:13] <el1984> apt-key also
[02:13] <Linux_Galore> el1984: on the kubuntu.org page
[02:13] <Linux_Galore> el1984: ok thats it then
[02:13] <el1984> thxalot
[02:14] <cpk2> ricanelite: and these directions didnt help you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-81c3789bc76872336f69a7af90d1759ef38eeb64
[02:14] <Linux_Galore> el1984: just run sudo apt-get update
[02:14] <el1984> already done :)
[02:14] <el1984> I know that sometimes it looks like I'm complicated
[02:14] <Linux_Galore> el1984: the update agent should be asking for you to click on it now
[02:14] <el1984> and yap I am, ran out the complete microsoft products, and have finally switched
[02:15] <Linux_Galore> el1984: the update agent will install kde 3.5.5
[02:15] <el1984> yap I know :)
[02:15] <el1984> already doing :)
[02:16] <Linux_Galore> el1984: once that finnished run  sudo  dpkg --configure -a   that will setup kde 3.5.5
[02:16] <fdoving> ricanelite: you need to get java from http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html
[02:16] <el1984> without sudo 4 me :)
[02:16] <el1984> I prefer the classical root shell
[02:16] <fdoving> ricanelite: you want 32bit iseries/pseries J2SE 5.0
[02:16] <Linux_Galore> el1984: I rebootedf just to make sure its all flushed
[02:17] <fdoving> ricanelite: note, you need to register an IBM ID to download.
[02:17] <el1984> ok affter this, I guess that I'll still have my wlan probs
[02:17] <Momal> ok I rebooted kopete still crashes : the debug output from the kde crash handler is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26588/
[02:18] <Linux_Galore> el1984: thats a separate issue
[02:18] <el1984> yap, I already posted a thread on ubuntforums.org
[02:18] <el1984> conerning wlan
[02:18] <el1984> concerning
[02:18] <fdoving> ricanelite: after you've downloaded the file, you follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-0948e66f605ec3c2af4f264c5cfc56f4175659eb
[02:19] <aztun> hi all
[02:19] <Linux_Galore> el1984: I always use a wlan router not a card heh heh
[02:19] <aztun> kopete crashes when I go into kopetes config since I updated to kde 3.5.5
[02:19] <aztun> anyone with the same problem?
[02:19] <Momal> I can't get kopete to start from latest update
[02:19] <Momal> crashes as soon as it starts running
[02:19] <sF|Xemanth> aztun: nada problems with it
[02:19] <fdoving> Momal: did you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy kopete' as i asked earlier? (sorry if i didn't pay attention)
[02:19] <Linux_Galore> Momal: might have to flush the kopeterc file
[02:19] <aztun> Momal: it works for me
[02:19] <sF|Xemanth> but it boots faster than before \o/
[02:20] <Momal> yea i'll get it again for you
[02:20] <xavier> hi i get a permissions error when i try to install a xmms plugin .. it says the following :: /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/lib/xmms/Effect/libeq.so': Permission denied ... any ideas as to why?
[02:20] <aztun> but it crashes when I go to config
[02:20] <Momal> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26589/
[02:21] <Linux_Galore> Momal: try  mv   ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc  ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc_bak
[02:21] <Momal> ok deleted the kopeterc file (after backup) and now it ran :p
[02:21] <Linux_Galore> Momal: run kopete again
[02:21] <Momal> must be something in old config messing it up ?
[02:21] <Linux_Galore> Momal: yeah you have a goofy option setup
[02:21] <Momal> :p
[02:22] <aztun> aaaaaaaaaggg
[02:22] <aztun> konverstaion just crashed too
[02:22] <Momal> konversation is fine here :)
[02:23] <Linux_Galore> works fine here
[02:24] <wwwiz> how to move trash on the desktop???
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> have to rename konversationrc to konversationrc_bak
[02:25] <Linux_Galore> wwwiz: you mean empty the trash ??
[02:25] <wwwiz> Linux_Galore, no, move trash icon to desktop
[02:25] <yeti> mh, files that i copy to ~/Desktop don't show up on the desktop instantly but only after a reboot, what am i missing?
[02:25] <Linux_Galore> wwwiz: same as windows drag and drop
[02:26] <Momal> err... i think new kopete is buged up lol.. can't even add an account without it crashing :S.. thats after delted the kopeterc file and it created a new one
[02:27] <aztun> aaag
[02:27] <Momal> aztun: kopete crash on you when you try and add a new account to it ?
[02:27] <aztun> I moved ~/.kde/share/conf/kopeterc to /tmp and it still crashes
[02:27] <aztun> :(
[02:27] <aztun> no Momal, crashes when I try to change config
[02:28] <aztun> I can chat with it
[02:28] <aztun> but if  I go into config it crashes
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> wwwiz: then point at your taskbar left click ->Panel menu -> remove from panel -> applet -
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> -> trash
[02:28] <Momal> so adding new acount would crash for you then >_<
[02:28] <Momal> hmm...
[02:29] <Linux_Galore> config works fine here
[02:29] <wwwiz> Linux_Galore, thanx!
[02:29] <Momal> linux_galore I soo hate you lol... hmm why is your kopete working sure its the new one 0.12.3 ?
[02:29] <Linux_Galore> Momal: yes
[02:29] <aztun> konversation crashed again :(
[02:30] <aztun> and deleted the old config too.....
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> aztun: did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:30] <aztun> no I didnt
[02:31] <aztun> lets try
[02:31] <Momal> i ran that but didn't seem to do anything :S
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> aztun: lol, nothing is setup yet it still running on the old defaults
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> aztun: run it and it should install the new config options
[02:31] <aztun> allready done
[02:31] <aztun> lets try again
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> Momal: iyou should get 2 questions
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> both just type Y
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> Ive done 2 machines now bot work fine
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> both
[02:33] <Momal> hmm i got no message... how can I make it reinstall all the new kde packages without reseting any of my configureation
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> o 0 ( I must have the Midas touch)
[02:34] <Momal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26591/ <-- konsole output from kopete and the backtrace when it crashes
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> WARNING: please edit ~/.scim/global and change /DefaultConfigModule to kconfig
[02:35] <Momal> yea looked in the file dunknow what to edit
[02:36] <Linux_Galore> Momal: did you do what the warning asked
[02:36] <Linux_Galore> Momal: justr rename it lol
[02:36] <Momal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26592/ <-- thats all thats in that global file :p.. i'll try rename/move it and see what happens
[02:37] <Momal> kopete
[02:37] <Momal> wrong window lol!
[02:37] <Momal> lol it just said the same error :S
[02:37] <cyber_brain_mfkg> is there proxy settings for kopete?
[02:37] <Momal> well warning
[02:38] <thelostbyte_> cyber_brain_mfkg, yes.
[02:39] <cyber_brain_mfkg> how to change my proxy settings?
[02:39] <cyber_brain_mfkg> i cannot find it:-S
[02:39] <Momal> ok doens't look liek that was the prob i added: /DefaultConfigModule = kconfig | and the warnind doesn't show now and it jsut crashes lol
[02:40] <Igor_V2> hi
[02:40] <|xchat|> cyber_brain_mfkg, It is protocol dependent, so just "Modify" the Protocol your using. It will be there..
[02:42] <aztun> :((((((
[02:42] <aztun> cant get kopete to work
[02:43] <Linux_Galore> Momal: create another user account login to it and run kopete
[02:43] <aztun> I unistalled and installed agaein
[02:43] <aztun> again
[02:43] <cyber_brain_mfkg> |xchat|: there is no any proxy settings in account setup!!! :(
[02:43] <Momal> k brb
[02:44] <Linux_Galore> aztun: same for you aztun create a new user account login and run kopete again
[02:44] <Linux_Galore> sounds like you both stuffed up ~/.kde/
[02:45] <Linux_Galore> by not running dpkg --configure -a
[02:45] <|xchat|> cyber_brain_mfkg, Sorry, dude. I only see it for the msn account.
[02:46] <aztun> ok gonna try
[02:49] <Linux_Galore> momal your on BigBlonde
[02:49] <Momal> yea its a piece of crap >_<
[02:49] <Momal> lol
[02:49] <Momal> ok
[02:49] <Momal> well
[02:49] <Momal> it works fine adds account logs in on msn under another user
[02:49] <Momal> so why not mine >_<
[02:50] <Linux_Galore> Momal: because you didnt run the configure stuff straight away so the update script didnt replace all the old stuff
[02:50] <Momal> hmm... how can i remove all kopete information from my account ?
[02:50] <Linux_Galore> Momal: you will have to flush/rename ~/.kde/
[02:50] <Momal> has to be more then just koipeterc
[02:50] <Momal> err... that will like change all my settings O_O
[02:51] <Linux_Galore> Momal: yep
[02:51] <Linux_Galore> Momal: but it will work
[02:51] <Momal> thats like more then you think i have my whole desktop changed>_<
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> Momal: I did the same stuff up a year ago and got heaps of conflicts
[02:52] <Momal> would be nice if adept configured it for me >_< last time i use that piece of crap >_<
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> only way to fix it was to remove ~/.kderc and ~/.kde
[02:53] <Linux_Galore> Momal: it doesnt neither does apt
[02:53] <Momal> well anyone complete new to linux/kde its going to screw them over :s
[02:53] <AxL> Hi ! I m new to kubuntu ... I m configuring my ethernet card ... System tells me to click the "admin button" to allow modify but where is this button ? Thanks !
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> Momal: if you run apt-get update  when you do a major change to your system it will show a warning telling you to run dpkg --configure -a
[02:54] <Momal> adept didn't i looked though its output :S
[02:55] <Momal> brb just moved .kde and .kderc.. some of the stuff im going to need to copy back because way too much to have to configure again..
[02:55] <ricanelite> When I head over to this site http://serios.net/content/applets/viewinfoawt.php i get this message Loading of Applet Failed can someone please help me out??
[02:57] <AxL> Can anyone tell me where this button is please ?
[02:57] <Momal> OMG where is everything
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> lol
[02:57] <Momal> can't even tell that im using konversation ITSWWHITE>_<
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> Momal: go into kcontrol and select a theme
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> Momal: should fix up most things
[02:58] <Momal> where is kcontrol by default lol
[02:59] <Momal> this soo sucks
[02:59] <Linux_Galore> Momal: just type kcontrol in a term
[02:59] <Momal> omg.. amarok settings wern't hold in .kde were they?
[02:59] <Linux_Galore> yep
[02:59] <Linux_Galore> Momal: thats why I said rename it
[02:59] <Momal> yea i did
[02:59] <Momal> but now i have to copy all back >_<
[02:59] <Linux_Galore> just copy it back
[02:59] <ch4in`> hi! i downloaded a Kubuntu Live CD und now i would like to install kubuntu. but i'm using also win2000. Is it possibile to install kubuntu without formating the filesystem?
[03:00] <Linux_Galore> Momal: pfft takes like 5 seconds you big baby
[03:00] <Momal> ahha
[03:00] <aztun> Linux_galore I created new account
[03:00] <Momal> i have more then that to copy back where is the panel settings held?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Linux disrtos normally install to their own partitions.. You will need to resize the existing windows install
[03:00] <aztun> and kopete still crashes
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> ch4in`: yes you put Linux on a seperate partition
[03:01] <aztun> dont know what other thing I can do
[03:01] <Momal> had to find where konsole was lol!
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> aztun: so you looged in as a new user and kopete crashes
[03:01] <ch4in`> linux_galore: so my existing filesystem with windows works also fine and their won't be any problems?
[03:01] <aztun> yes
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> aztun: not good
[03:02] <aztun> I know Linux_Galore  :(
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> ch4in`,  normally i resize the windows installs with a Live Cd and the Gparted tool.  Defrag/scandisk the windows drive.. boot a  live cd that has gparted, resize.  leaving a section of the hard drive 'unallocated'
[03:02] <matt_> omg is this a kubuntu support channel?
[03:02] <Linux_Galore> ch4in`: Linux will run off the partition and windows runs of its own partition
[03:02] <Linux_Galore> matt no
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> ch4in`,  you can 'read' the ntfs/vfat partitions of a linux drive.. you can write to vfat drives.. but writing to ntfs drives is considered dangerous from inside linux
[03:02] <ch4in`> ok thanks for the help :)
[03:02] <AxL> Where is this button ? :\
[03:03] <matt_> oh ok, what is it then?
[03:03] <aztun> what a shit.........the two programs that I use 24/7 , kopete and konversation, crash both
[03:03] <Momal> default theme on kubuntu isn't in the list on theme manager :S
[03:03] <Linux_Galore> aztun: muwahahaha friday the 13th
[03:03] <AxL> Momal : can you help me to find the admin button please ?
[03:03] <Linux_Galore> Momal: I usually install the plastic theme and use that as the starting point
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> some tmes i have to move the windows up.. and 'resize' the windows so the admin button appears at teh bottom.
[03:04] <Linux_Galore> Momal: its in the repo too
[03:04] <Momal> yea thats what i put it on but just noticed the starting one with kubuntu isn't there :S
[03:04] <Momal> AxL: where are you looking for the administrator button?
[03:04] <aztun> what a shit
[03:04] <Linux_Galore> Momal: aaah something is missing
[03:04] <Momal> ARRRR what is ?
[03:04] <aztun> I think go to sleep a little siesta
[03:04] <AxL> Momal : I m configuring my ethernet card ...
[03:05] <Linux_Galore> dont know
[03:05] <aztun> and later retry
[03:05] <AxL> in network setting .
[03:05] <Linux_Galore> Momal: whateever I have lol and you dont
[03:05] <Momal> linux_galore: i hate you lol!
[03:05] <Momal> umm
[03:06] <Momal> ok so AxL:  you brought up the network settings box and you can't see admin button can you see the ok and cancel buttons?
[03:06] <AxL> Momal : no
[03:06] <Linux_Galore> Momal: well you learnt to run the configure setup when you update kde at least
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> some tmes i have to move the windows up.. and 'resize' the windows so the admin button appears at teh bottom of the windows.
[03:06] <AxL> Window is higher than the dsktop
[03:06] <Momal> garr you really want to die don't you :p...
[03:06] <Momal> umm Axl:
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> Its a bug with a lot of the kde config tools on this system
[03:07] <Momal> AxL: what res are you running ?
[03:07] <AxL> What is "res" ?
[03:07] <Momal> AxL: resoultion
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> I use ALT-CLICK to move the window up PAST the top of the desktop.. then drag/resize the bottom of hte window down.
[03:07] <AxL> Ah .. ok .. I think it is 1024
[03:07] <Momal> Resolution as in screen something x something
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> Once ya can see the buttons. you can use the max button to max the window.. and the buttons to figure it out and appear at the bottom. (some times)
[03:07] <Momal> ok move the window to the top then drag down the bottom part of the window
[03:08] <AxL> I m trying ...
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> some themes have a similer issue.
[03:08] <Momal> yea Dr_Willis: few dialogs tend to not bring up the buttons on the smaller resolutions :S
[03:08] <Momal> well not show them >_<
[03:09] <Momal> if you still can't get to it.. close the window reopen it and press | shift+tab | then spacebar | with any luck that will select the administrator button and run it
[03:11] <arejaytee> whats the command to get my desktop back? lol
[03:11] <arejaytee> luckily i boot into last session and konversation opened lol
[03:11] <AxL> Well I did like Dr_Willis said ... with alt ...
[03:12] <AxL> I can move the window out of the desktop
[03:12] <g_osh> Stupid question but... updating from dapper to edgy (as a test on a VM), isn't that just to change "dapper" to "edgy" in sources.list?
[03:12] <AxL> But I can not resize the window :\
[03:13] <AxL> Momal: is there a fix for this bug ?
[03:13] <Momal> AxL: you jsut need to put your mouse on the bottom bar and hold click and drag it down
[03:13] <arejaytee> anyone? basically i have my background and thats it, ive had to do this before when i lost the taskbar and such
[03:13] <Momal> I don't think its a bug its part on how the windows work and how they were designed
[03:14] <AxL> Momal: yes I just have to do it but it is not pratical at all !
[03:15] <arejaytee> whats the command to get my desktop/taskbar and such back? lol
[03:15] <Momal> if your running 1024x768 res it should display find you might jsut have to drag the bar down
[03:15] <AxL> Momal: I did not specify a root password during installation . Is there a default one ?
[03:15] <Momal> no
[03:15] <Momal> just open konsole
[03:15] <mendred> hi hobbsee
[03:15] <Dr_willis> Momal,  ive had it mess up with that res as well. and higher.
[03:15] <Momal> and type|   sudo passwd
[03:15] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[03:15] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:16] <Dr_willis> theres no need to set a root password. :)
[03:16] <Dr_willis> Unless you got these bad habbits. :P like i do.
[03:16] <AxL> What is the root pass for default : that s what kubuntu is asking me .
[03:16] <AxL> Sudo is launched (textbox)
[03:16] <Dr_willis> the FIRST users password is the 'sudo' password
[03:16] <Dr_willis> use that
[03:16] <Hobbsee> hey mendred
[03:17] <Dr_willis> the first user is special. :)
[03:17] <arejaytee> man this sucks cant do anything lol cmon someone has to knwo it
[03:17] <Dr_willis> arejaytee,  ya mean like 'kicker' ?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> normally those things respawn if they crash
[03:17] <Momal> brb need to reload kde see if it dies or not after copying some things back lol
[03:18] <arejaytee> yeah thats it, hrmm says its running already but its not displaying
[03:18] <AxL> Dr_willis: well .. I think it was but I enter it and I can not configure my eth card too ...
[03:19] <Dr_willis> AxL,  "think" ?
[03:19] <Dr_willis> try the 'sudo -s' command in a shell..
[03:19] <AxL> I can not type anything !!
[03:20] <Dr_willis> when entering the password  in the shell NOTHING is echoed back
[03:20] <AxL> Dr_willis: well I m root on the shell now ...
[03:21] <Dr_willis> AxL,  so now ya know your sudo  password then. :P  thats what you enter in those requestors that ask for the root password
[03:22] <AxL> Dr_willis:: yes but I m telling you it doesn't work even if I enter this password !
[03:22] <AxL> Everything stay "grayed"
[03:22] <AxL> I can not modify anything even if I enter this sudo password !
[03:23] <lipe> In debian we use alsaconf to config the sound... now i'm using kubuntu, which is the command to config the sound, please ?!
[03:24] <Linux_Galore> lipe: kmix or alsaconfig
[03:24] <arejaytee> nope restarting did nothing
[03:24] <arejaytee> hrrm sux
[03:24] <AxL> Dr_willis: moreover it seems I m sudo in the Shell and in the open window (network config) so system don't ask me password when I click "admin mode" .. SO it is a big bug .. It seems ...
[03:24] <lipe> Linux_Galore: thx u very much !!
[03:25] <Dr_willis> AxL,  cant tell ya.. I just upgraded to kde 3.5.5 so i cant even test :)
[03:27] <AxL> Dr_willis: ok thanks ... maybe I can do it with command line at least (I hope !). I just need to change the DNS of the eth card ...
[03:27] <arejaytee> anything else i can try and restart
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> Dr_willis: seems allot faster to me ie kde 3.5.5
[03:28] <Dr_willis> AxL,  this is linux.. of COURSE you can do it from the command line. :)
[03:29] <arejaytee> what would stop kicker from displaying?
[03:29] <AxL> Linux is still command line ... I thought it will be gui but not yet :\ Pity ...
[03:30] <Dr_willis> AxL,  whatever... i said of COUSE you can ...  the fact that theres some kde bugglets in the control panel is not 'linux's' fault
[03:31] <Dr_willis> Linux IS the command line.. the other programs just run on top. Linux is all about Layers.
[03:31] <Dr_willis> well Linux IS the kernel.. :P and the command line is closer to the kernel then X :)
[03:31] <arejaytee> how can i kill kicker then from a console to if restarting it fixes my problem?
[03:32] <Linux_Galore> arejaytee: killall -9 kicker
[03:32] <ricanelite> how can I get to install Opera, can someone please help me!!!
[03:32] <Dr_willis> arejaytee,  ive had some issues in the past where various .kde/ config files got messed up.. i just moved the .kde dir to .kde_old and restarted kde
[03:32] <fdoving> arejaytee: to restart it you can try 'dcop kicker kicker restart'
[03:32] <Dr_willis> !info opera
[03:32] <ubotu> opera: The Opera Web Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 9.00-20060616.7 (dapper-commercial), package size 5415 kB, installed size 12376 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:32] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install opera
[03:32] <Dr_willis> ricanelite,  hard eh? :)
[03:33] <ricanelite> this is the message im getting
[03:33] <fdoving> ricanelite: you need to add the dapper-commercial repositories: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-9a7a4519857af012ff775e9c0f15fbce60173676
[03:33] <MidMark> or download the deb 9.02 from opera site and right click -> kubuntu menu -> install
[03:33] <arejaytee> hrrm wierd, kicker in console gives already running, using Linux_Galore cmd says no processes killed, then try kicker again and it works
[03:33] <ricanelite> wait im confuse
[03:33] <Dr_willis> opera recently had a update dident they?
[03:33] <arejaytee> thanks Linux_Galore
[03:33] <Dr_willis> may be best to download the deb.
[03:33] <MidMark> yes 9.00 has a lot of bug
[03:34] <arejaytee> hrmm but now disappeared again!!!!!
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> ricanelite: aah you havent setup adept yet for the other repo  run adept then go view -> manage repositories and enable them
[03:34] <AxL> Dr_willis: ok willis thanks ...
[03:34] <ricanelite> how do i run it
[03:34] <ricanelite> im so new to this and so confuse
[03:35] <Dr_willis> ricanelite,   ----------->>>  <MidMark> or download the deb 9.02 from opera site and right click -> kubuntu menu -> install
[03:35] <Linux_Galore> ricanelite:  menu->system->adept
[03:36] <MidMark> 9.00 has security flaw too better 9.02
[03:37] <vega-> ok, somebody tell me how to get rid of that annoying bouncing cursor in KDE
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> vega-: its setup in kcontrol
[03:37] <Dr_willis> http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=28354&location=122&nothanks=yes&sub=marine
[03:38] <vega-> Linux_Galore: ah, kde menu -> system settings? didn't find it..
[03:38] <vega-> Linux_Galore: happen to remember more specifically? i searched for it but couldn't find anything related
[03:38] <matt_> i like the bouncing cursor
[03:38] <matt_> :)
[03:39] <Linux_Galore> vega-:  type kcontrol in a terminal
[03:39] <vega-> Linux_Galore: already running
[03:39] <Linux_Galore> vega-: peripherals->mouse
[03:39] <Linux_Galore> vega-:  turn off visual feedback
[03:40] <vega-> Linux_Galore: ok
[03:40] <vega-> then restart X? because after "apply" i still get a bouncing cursor
[03:40] <windshear> hello
[03:40] <windshear> anyone has a floppy drive and is using KDE 3.5.5
[03:41] <Dr_willis> yes...
[03:41] <Dr_willis> but i dont even know where any floppy disks are at :)
[03:41] <Dr_willis> but I got a drive.. Heh heh.
[03:41] <windshear> Dr_willis can you pls try accessing it
[03:42] <vega-> Linux_Galore: should it work without restarting X ?
[03:42] <fdoving> vega-: it should be applied at once.
[03:42] <vega-> fdoving: nope, doesn't do that... :(
[03:42] <AxL> JJe veux monter un disque ... c'est la commande mount mais comment lister toutes les partitions ? Y a t il un gui pour ca ?
[03:42] <Dr_willis> windshear,  im not sure where in this house i even have a floppy disk. :) ive accessed it befor.
[03:42] <Linux_Galore> vega-: sorry found it in kcontrol under Appearance -> launch feedback -> set the bouncing icon to zero
[03:42] <v3ctor> !fr
[03:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:42] <Dr_willis> but thats been months ago
[03:43] <Dr_willis> windshear,  be sure to unmount the floppy befor ya remove it.
[03:43] <fdoving> vega-: did you set the dropdown menu to 'no busy cursor' and unchecked the 'enable taskbar notification' ?
[03:43] <vega-> Linux_Galore: yep, thanks :) works now
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> vega-: or no busy cursor
[03:43] <AxL> IsWhat is the command to see all partitions ?
[03:43] <windshear> Dr_willis you don't necessarily need a drive, just try to access it. you will see on the drive's light if it works
[03:44] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[03:44] <AxL> I want to mount disks with mount command ... but can not remember the command to see partition
[03:44] <Dr_willis> windshear,  the disk works... i hear the vmware machines try to access it. :P
[03:44] <Dr_willis> AxL,  sudo fdisk -l
[03:44] <AxL> Thanks Dr_willis
[03:44] <AxL> Dr_willis is there a gui to mount disk ?
[03:45] <Dr_willis> AxL,  i just edit the fstab by hand to get things set how i like them
[03:45] <Dr_willis> I put my 'data' drives in my Users Home dir.
[03:45] <ricanelite> How can I enable Java in Opera?
[03:45] <Dr_willis> ricanelite,  be sure to mention you are on a PPC system :P
[03:45] <windshear> Dr_willis hm, you're on a vm... i'm trying to find out if Bug #30207 still exists in kde 3.5.5
[03:46] <Dr_willis> windshear,  i just tried to mount the empty floppy.. it clicked a few times then poped up an error. :)
[03:46] <Dr_willis> so it seems to be working
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> ricanelite: have you installed java and set it up yet
[03:46] <ricanelite> thats the problem
[03:46] <ricanelite> I dont know what im doing by installing java
[03:46] <ricanelite> it is so confusing
[03:46] <ricanelite> I have read and tried some many thingsd
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> !java
[03:46] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:47] <AxL> Dr_willis: command seems not to get the size of partition  in bytes .. Is there a way to get that ?
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> ricanelite: click on the link ^
[03:47] <windshear> Dr_willis do you perhaps have a vm with kde 3.5.4 ready?  for me it does not even try to access it
[03:47] <fdoving> ricanelite: i can walk you through installing java.. join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[03:47] <Dr_willis> I am using kubuntu - i just upgraded to 3.5.5 like 10 min ago. :P
[03:47] <windshear> Dr_willis what distro ver. are you using dapper or edgy?
[03:48] <matt_> how do i find out what version of kubuntu i have?
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> fdoving: ooh cool a newbie classroom
[03:48] <Dr_willis> lol
[03:48] <Momal> I think kopete is acaully screwed
[03:48] <Momal> Was just using it for a bit
[03:48] <Momal> and it crashed
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> Momal: Ive been on kopete now for a few hours, works fine
[03:49] <bubblenut> How can I send KTorrent to the system tray?
[03:49] <Momal> grr
[03:49] <Dr_willis> bubblenut,  just close it..
[03:49] <Dr_willis> and it should go there
[03:49] <windshear> Dr_willis you have installed kde 3.5.5 to dapper or to edgy?
[03:49] <bubblenut> It shuts down completely
[03:49] <Dr_willis> windshear,  dapper.
[03:49] <Dr_willis> bubblenut,  check the settings.. Mine goes to the system tray. it does not exit UNLESS theres no torrents download/uploading
[03:49] <Linux_Galore> Momal: you obviously havent prostrated yourself at the church or the open penguin
[03:49] <Linux_Galore> of*
[03:50] <Momal> LOL! shut up
[03:50] <windshear> that doesn't really help me, seems as I have to download it myself...
[03:50] <Momal> omfg kopete used to be good now it logs into like all my accounts expect for the main one i use as soon as it goes to login with it just crashes WTH
[03:50] <bubblenut> Ahh yes, I had to check the "show in system tray", thanks Dr_willis
[03:51] <Momal> this is seriously making no sense... my main msn account crashes kopete when it trys to login :S
[03:51] <Linux_Galore> thinks*
[03:51] <Linux_Galore> heh heh
[03:51] <Momal> is that going to help kopete O_o
[03:52] <Linux_Galore> no Im playing with your mind
[03:52] <Momal> lets try adding a different msn account i have if this logs in im going to kill someone
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Viva La Revolition!
[03:53] <matt_> anyone here use aegis-virus scanner?
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> Penguinsta's carry gnu'zies
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> matt why
[03:53] <Momal> its linux...
[03:53] <Momal> did you just come from using windows?
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> lol 99.99% of viri are for windows
[03:54] <Momal> 100% of viri are windows 00.01% of them need windows to infect linux
[03:54] <Momal> ^^
[03:54] <matt_> just having problems working it... yeah i was wondering if i could scan my windows PC with a linux virus scanner
[03:54] <matt_> dun have a virus scanner for my windows PC :(
[03:54] <Linux_Galore> only reason you would run anti virus in Linux is to make sure you dont forward a virus by accident to a windows machine
[03:55] <windshear> matt_ of course you can
[03:55] <windshear> thats what linux scanners are made for :)
[03:55] <windshear> but make shure your windows partition is writable
[03:55] <Linux_Galore> thats so true its sad, anti linux stuff in Linux is to scan window problems
[03:56] <windshear> if using ntfs, best use captive drivers
[03:56] <matt_> hehehe :) well aegis is having a problem for me.. i start it up and it says it needs to d/l new virus updates.. problem is that it never downloads them - it just says that it does... so every time i start it up it says the same thing...
[03:56] <matt_> nah im using vfat, ive heard linux has problems writing to ntfs?
[03:57] <Linux_Galore> matt well you need to point it at a local mirror for the virus sig stuff
[03:57] <matt_> hmm, how would i find a local mirror?
[03:57] <m4x1mum> how to use trickle? i tried this trickle -d 40 but it doesn;t work?
[03:57] <Linux_Galore> matt if your never sure go to the apps home page
[03:58] <matt_> kk i'll do that.. thanks
[03:58] <Momal> what do I do if kopete wont login to 1 msn account but will on every other single account >_<
[03:58] <Momal> its as soon as it grabs my contact list for the account then it just goes bam and crashs >_<
[03:59] <AxL> Dr_willis: I m editing fstab ... what should I write in the option for my fat 32 partition containing windows ? auto iso ?
[04:00] <Momal> this makes no sense what so how how can every account login and not one :S
[04:01] <_Shade_> hi there
[04:01] <Dr_willis> vfat  for the filesystem
[04:01] <_Shade_> could anyone help me in solving this one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/65783 ?
[04:02] <AxL> Dr_willis: ok but for option ?
[04:02] <Dr_willis>   /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     nvfat  defaults,user,users,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[04:02] <Dr_willis> oops typo
[04:02] <Dr_willis>   /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     vfat  defaults,user,users,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[04:02] <radanter> hi, can anyone help with a CUPS/Samba problem?
[04:03] <matt_> lol yeah i have a CUPS problem too now that ya mention it... hehe
[04:03] <matt_> ive been playing the linux game for over 4 hours today.. i should really give up and sleep i think :P lol
[04:04] <radanter> I can print fine from local machine and remote kubuntu using cups, but printing from Windows fails
[04:04] <AxL> Dr_willis: auto for auto on strat up no ?
[04:05] <Linux_Galore> radanter: theres a windows cups client
[04:05] <Linux_Galore> radanter: allows you to use a Linux machine as a print server for the window machine
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> anway time for bed
[04:06] <m4x1mum> how to use trickle? i tried this trickle -d 40 but it doesn;t work?
[04:06] <Momal> konversation from new update... after i flushed my .kde wont let me change colors for the nicks and colored test in irc messages :S
[04:08] <Dr_willis> auto is for the filesystem :) nothong to do with auto-starting
[04:09] <radanter> Linux_Galore: hmm, ok maybe I should try that. Seems odd that I can't print via Samba though. File shares, etc, work just fine.
[04:09] <radanter> error seems to be something about opening comms with the printer
[04:10] <radanter> "open print channel failed"
[04:14] <AxL> Kate just crashed .. Is there a way to launch it again without rebooting ?
[04:14] <MDCore> what do you guys recommend as a client for playing "Go" ?
[04:14] <Dr_willis> run it from the shell? what was you editing?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> 'launch kate without rebooting' --- is... odd...
[04:15] <Dr_willis> its just an editor. Why would you need to reboot?
[04:16] <livingdaylight> MDCore: i recommend cgoban3 which lets you play on KGS
[04:16] <livingdaylight> MDCore: do you know KGS?
[04:16] <AxL> Dr_willis: shells tell me it crashed !
[04:16] <livingdaylight> MDCore: www.gokgs.com
[04:16] <MDCore> livingdaylight: thanks.. no no Idea.
[04:16] <AxL> I can not lauch it !
[04:16] <MDCore> livingdaylight: I read an article about go this afternoon.. now I'm trying to find a way to play it :)
[04:16] <livingdaylight> there is a go client in repos . use Synaptic or Adept to search for 'go'
[04:16] <Dr_willis> AxL,  you got bigger issues if Kate is carashing.
[04:17] <livingdaylight> MDCore: but it is a client for IGS and if you speak English then KGS is way more fun
[04:17] <MDCore> ok. Yeah.. english is for me :)
[04:17] <Dr_willis> AxL,  whats the excact error message?
[04:17] <AxL> I ve just reboot ... I don't know :\
[04:18] <livingdaylight> MDCore: you got a rank?
[04:18] <MDCore> livingdaylight: no.. I have heard of go. but today is the first day I've made any move to actually play it.
[04:19] <Momal> Is it possible Kopete is crashing due to to many contacts.. I only have like 110 at the most loading from the acccount :S
[04:19] <MDCore> livingdaylight: unless reading the wikipedia article gives one some sort of rank (prooobably not) I'm nowhere ;)
[04:19] <nomelose> wenas
[04:21] <DjDarkman> hy ,where can I get a wine?
[04:21] <DjDarkman> I have a 64 bit processor so the wine repository won`t work
[04:22] <Dr_willis> Not sure how well wine works on 64bit. may need to compile it.
[04:22] <Dr_willis> !wine
[04:22] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:22] <AxL> Dr_willis: it is still crashed ... here is the message when I do "sudo kate etc/fstab", type password then Error : "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[04:22] <Dr_willis> when i used wine on my 64bit system - my game ran at 2x speed.
[04:22] <AxL> link points to "/var ..."
[04:22] <DjDarkman> tried that
[04:22] <DjDarkman> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:22] <DjDarkman> See `config.log' for more details.
[04:22] <Dr_willis> AxL,  try sudo rm /var/tmp/kdecache-root
[04:22] <livingdaylight> MDCore: hey, reading wikipedia prolly gives you a 50k rank - its a start lol
[04:22] <Dr_willis> DjDarkman,  install the compiler tools. :)
[04:23] <Momal> !compile
[04:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:23] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[04:23] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[04:23] <DjDarkman> have those
[04:23] <Dr_willis> THen you missed somthing.
[04:23] <Dr_willis> or wine may need some more dev packages
[04:23] <MDCore> livingdaylight: hmmm. I'd feel safer playing against a computer.. at least till I worked out the basic rules!!
[04:23] <DjDarkman> hmm let`s see ,gcc libc build-essentials automake
[04:23] <livingdaylight> MDCore: oh, there is a good site for that
[04:23] <DjDarkman> what did I miss?
[04:24] <AxL> Dr_willis: it tells me rm can not : it is a dri
[04:24] <Dr_willis> check that log file and see what it does..
[04:24] <AxL> *dir
[04:24] <livingdaylight> MDCore: on KGS though you can also play bots - they are robots
[04:24] <Dr_willis> AxL,  cd to the dir..  cd /var/tmp
[04:24] <MDCore> livingdaylight: oh cool.. how do I find one.. I've logged in as a guest.
[04:25] <Dr_willis> Then carefully use rm -rf kdecache-root
[04:25] <Dr_willis> sudo may be needed
[04:25] <AxL> Dr_willis: root or my username ?
[04:25] <AxL> ad is my username
[04:25] <Dr_willis> AxL,  try as a user.. then with sudo
[04:26] <AxL> Dr_willis: no , i meant the dir to erase ? ad or root ?
[04:26] <AxL> As error is on ad ...
[04:26] <livingdaylight> MDCore: on the kgs site ask there. Basically you look out for it where all the tables are set so to speak
[04:26] <Dr_willis> AxL,  could just remove the whole dir..
[04:27] <AxL> Dr_willis: it is not dangerous ?
[04:27] <Dr_willis> AxL,  thats why you be very carefull
[04:27] <Momal> DjDarkman: do you have g++ installed?
[04:27] <Dr_willis> AxL,  your error seems.. odd..
[04:27] <Dr_willis> that file should of been removed when you rebooted
[04:28] <DjDarkman> yep ,I`m learning qt and it uses q++ when I compile
[04:28] <Dr_willis> ls    shows me --> kdecache-root  kdecache-willis
[04:28] <Firetech> I updated to KDE 3.5.5 (dapper) and now the search field in konqueror is gone, and I can't find any way to get it back. bug or feature?
[04:29] <AxL> Dr_willis: ok it erased but kate is still crached
[04:29] <AxL> Kate : communication problm with kate
[04:30] <Dr_willis> AxL,  could just try a different editor. :)
[04:30] <Dr_willis> Firetech,  it does seem like its missing
[04:30] <Momal> DjDarkman: im outta ideas.. I remember I had that error at one stage and I installed g++ and fixed it up... install cpp as well
[04:31] <AxL> Dr_willis: give me one ... not vi please :)
[04:31] <DaSkreech> AxL: I
[04:31] <Dr_willis> AxL,  vi is worth learning. :P
[04:31] <Firetech> Dr_willis: I noticed you can search fine using the location bar,  but there's no changelog entry about it...
[04:31] <Momal> cpp, g++, gcc <-- if you have all of them it shouln't have a problem that error seemed to be related to it trying to find the compiling engine
[04:31] <Dr_willis> install mc and use mcedit
[04:32] <Dr_willis> mc is SOO handy
[04:32] <DaSkreech> AxL: Then you have II, III, iV, V
[04:32] <MDCore> yeah...... just noticed too, no more search bar! o_O
[04:32] <AxL> Dr_willis: I can not install anything as I need to edit my DNS of my eth card ...
[04:32] <Dr_willis> mcedit, cream,  fte, nano, pico,  emacs
[04:33] <Dr_willis> AxL,  now ya know WHY its worth learning vi. :)
[04:33] <DaSkreech> !editors
[04:33] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[04:33] <AxL> I don't want console editor ... peqe !!!
[04:33] <AxL> :)
[04:33] <MDCore> nano..
[04:34] <Dr_willis> AxL,  get over it...
[04:34] <v3ctor> vim has gui ;)
[04:34] <MDCore> it's console text editing for dummies!
[04:34] <DaSkreech> AxL: kdesu kate
[04:34] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  kate is crashing for him
[04:34] <Dr_willis> which is a bad sign
[04:34] <DaSkreech> With what error?
[04:35] <DaSkreech> Has he tried kwrite?
[04:36] <dude> what is the package installer in kubuntu?
[04:37] <DaSkreech> adept
[04:37] <v3ctor> dude: adept for gui, aptitude for cli
[04:37] <v3ctor> or apt-get for cli
[04:37] <AxL> Trying kwrite (Whaouhh ! I can configure my network with a GUI .. now it works !! Sometimes linux works ... I m happy !)
[04:37] <DaSkreech> v3ctor: ha ha :-) I just realized his name is actually dude
[04:38] <dude> tnx
[04:38] <v3ctor> lol
[04:38] <DaSkreech> Probably going to have the client pinging him a lot ;-)
[04:38] <goku> list
[04:38] <DaSkreech> AxL: You work with it it works with you
[04:41] <dude> i installed an application, but i cant find that application
[04:41] <AxL> Kwrite worked .. I couls edit the file ... but I got a error : "/var/tmp/kdecache-ad" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0 ...
[04:41] <dude> where should i find it?
[04:42] <v3ctor> what did you install?
[04:42] <AxL> What is this error ... ?
[04:42] <dude> 3ddesktop
[04:42] <DaSkreech> dude:  type 3ds at the command line
[04:42] <dude> terminal window?
[04:42] <DaSkreech> AxL: reopen kwrite with sudo
[04:42] <MetaMorfoziS> can i workaround to a program use other setting directory?
[04:42] <DaSkreech> AxL: type kdesu kwrite
[04:43] <DaSkreech> dude: Yes
[04:43] <kokokoko> !reiser
[04:43] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[04:43] <dude> tnx
[04:43] <AxL> !kdesu
[04:43] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:43] <DaSkreech> MetaMorfoziS: Eh?
[04:43] <dude> not found
[04:43] <MetaMorfoziS> so i want for example to try ff2
[04:43] <DaSkreech> dude: try 3ddesk
[04:43] <MetaMorfoziS> but i want to ff2 use other .mozilla dir
[04:44] <MetaMorfoziS> or .mozilla2 or anything...
[04:44] <puttlick> Im such a noob at kubuntu, Why can't i create a file in autostar, I think i have to login as administrator but HOW? In konqueror...
[04:44] <dude> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[04:44] <DaSkreech> MetaMorfoziS: well for Mozilla it's easy
[04:45] <Momal> kdesu konqueror
[04:45] <DaSkreech> dude: What videocard do you have?
[04:45] <Momal> ^^ in console/run box
[04:45] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, how?
[04:45] <dude> nvidia 128 mb
[04:45] <puttlick> thx momal
[04:45] <dude> inno3e
[04:45] <dude> inno3d
[04:46] <dude> is there something wrong with my vcard?
[04:46] <DaSkreech> dude: No Your drivers
[04:46] <DaSkreech> You need to install some things
[04:46] <DaSkreech> !nvidia
[04:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:46] <DaSkreech> There you go :)
[04:46] <DaSkreech> Anyone on edgy?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Not yet..
[04:47] <Dr_willis> i plan on waiting a few weekes after its released. :)
[04:47] <v3ctor> edgy xubuntu though
[04:47] <puttlick> Momal: Shouldn't I weite sudo konqueror?
[04:48] <DaSkreech> puttlick: Nope kdesu
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !kdesu
[04:48] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:48] <AxL> DaSkreech: I typed kdesu kwrite ... what next ?
[04:48] <AxL> I just go back to line .
[04:48] <DaSkreech> AxL: Did you close the other window?
[04:48] <AxL> Which window ?
[04:48] <AxL> If kwrite : yes
[04:48] <Momal> yea use kdesu... lol only use sudo if you want trouble later if you know what your doing :p
[04:48] <DaSkreech> AxL: Ack. Well open the file make your changes and save
[04:49] <AxL> DaSkreech: I did
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Ah ok then...
[04:49] <AxL> I always heve the error now :\
[04:49] <_Shade_> anyone here on edgy beta?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> I don't know what you are doing but you seemed to have a plan
[04:49] <DaSkreech>  so continue executing it
[04:49] <DaSkreech> _Shade_: v3ctor is :)
[04:50] <_Shade_> i got some problems during updates patching
[04:50] <kokokoko> !fou4s
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fou4s - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <sF|Xemanth> I wonder what causes my Firefox to crash in Dapper all the time
[04:51] <DjDarkman> grep: /usr/lib/libfam.la: No such file or directory
[04:51] <DjDarkman> what is this?
[04:51] <AxL> DaSkreech: I still have the error with sudo kwrite ... With "kwrite" (no sudo), the error is can not write in conf file ...
[04:51] <DaSkreech> sF|Xemanth: run it from the command line to find out
[04:51] <_Shade_> could anyone look at this please https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/65783
[04:52] <sF|Xemanth> when i maximize Fx from taskbar to full size its transparent
[04:52] <sF|Xemanth> main program window doesn't have anything inside
[04:52] <DaSkreech> AxL: again I'm not sure what you are doing and what the error is
[04:52] <DaSkreech> AxL: and use kdesu kwrite
[04:52] <AxL> DaSkreech: what I m doing is simple : I open kwrite !
[04:52] <AxL> With the console.
[04:52] <DaSkreech> AxL: and you get an error?
[04:53] <AxL> DaSkreech: yes !
[04:53] <DaSkreech> What is the error?
[04:55] <MetaMorfoziS> DaSkreech: so how it possible ?
[04:55] <AxL> Error is : "/var/tmp/kdecache-ad" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[04:55] <AxL> DaSkreech:
[04:55] <Dr_willis> is 'ad' your user name?
[04:55] <AxL> yes
[04:56] <DaSkreech> MetaMorfoziS: Oh sorry run it with the --profilemanager option and make up a profile. Then it uses a new set of settings
[04:56] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  its just a kde cache file
[04:57] <Dr_willis> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:57] <Dr_willis> worked fine for me here.
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: can it be blown away?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i tried to have him remove it earlier.. but its COrrect..
[04:57] <Dr_willis> that dir should NOT be owned by root.
[04:57] <DaSkreech> so... why is that an error?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> uid=0 is root.. 1000 is his user
[04:57] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  no idea.. thats why i said earlier he has 'bigger' problems. :)
[04:58] <Dr_willis> I could of learned vi by this time. :)
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Ya COULD try finding that confiog file you want to edit.. and use the "edit as root' menu item
[04:58] <Momal> Can someone tell me how to remove kopete without removing kubuntu-desktop ?
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Momal,  just remove kubuntu-desktop - its a meta-pacakge
[04:58] <Dr_willis> or just not worry about it at all. :)
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Momal: apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <DaSkreech> It doesn't actually do anything :)
[04:59] <Momal> trying to remove it completly then and then everything to do with it then reinstall.. seems it wont login to 1 of my accounts under this login and every other account it does :S
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Momal: run sudo apt-get remove kopete and I can explain it to you if you like
[05:00] <AxL> DaSkreech: do you know what this error is ?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Momal: run this sudo apt-get purge kopete && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <Momal> well im still alive after that so seemed to get rid of it fine lol
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Should do what you want
[05:00] <DaSkreech> AxL: No When do you get it?
[05:01] <AxL> DaSkreech: sudo kwrite
[05:02] <DaSkreech> And that crashes kwrite?
[05:02] <hyper> help; I can't kill a process - vmware is acting up and locks somehow... I changed to root but kill -9 PID doesn't work.. any suggestiosn?
[05:02] <AxL> DaSkreech: no but it is not normal, is it ?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> It is. it's just a notification
[05:03] <AxL> DaSkreech: what does that mean ?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> That the current user of KDE is you but the application is being run by root
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Just in case you weren't expecting that. Or you had a root console and did not want to run a KDE app as root
[05:05] <DaSkreech> AxL: Since being root means you can destroy your machine pretyt easily :)
[05:06] <AxL> DaSkreech: and when I just type "kwrite" , a window opens and tell it is impossible to write on the config file "/config/kwriterc" ? Is it normal ?
[05:06] <livingdaylight> MDCore: you still there?
[05:06] <livingdaylight> ping MDCore
[05:07] <Momal> I have no idea kopete is broken..... wont login to 1 msn account under this useraccount ... as soon as it grabs the contact list it just crashes
[05:07] <DaSkreech> AxL: /config ?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> You have a /config folder?
[05:07] <dude> can i use 3d desktop in ubuntu?
[05:07] <dude> can i use 3d desktop in kubuntu?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> dude: Yes
[05:08] <AxL> DaSkreech: "/home/ad/kde/share/config/kwritersc
[05:08] <kazukisan> -> I have apache working fine, im on linux(kubuntu) and i tried installing php but when i got to like http://localhost/test.php its always asking me to download the file instaid of the server running it, i can go to a console and type php test.php and it works ??
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Momal: and if you logout and log in as a new user it works fine?
[05:08] <n5> php -v on console kazukisan
[05:08] <dude> DaSkreech: how
[05:08] <DaSkreech> AxL: sure that isn't /home/ad/.kde ?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> dude: It takes a little working :)
[05:08] <AxL> yes it is ...
[05:09] <Momal> yup or login on another user I have i can login to the account fine.. I have tried deleting ~/.kde and I reset everything back up yet still does it :S
[05:09] <DaSkreech> did you read the page I pointed you at?
[05:09] <AxL> DaSkreech: it is .kde ... I can not copy paste .. I m not on the linux machine to paste
[05:09] <DaSkreech> AxL: does that file exist?
[05:09] <dude> DaSkreech: yes...but im confused
[05:09] <DaSkreech> AxL: just making sure
[05:09] <DaSkreech> AxL: Then that is strange.
[05:09] <AxL> DaSkreech: yes
[05:10] <AxL> DaSkreech: I got to go ... I ll see that later ... Thanks !
[05:10] <DaSkreech> AxL: Sure come back though :)
[05:10] <AxL> :)
[05:11] <dude> what is the command to show your video card driver
[05:11] <Momal> DaSkreech: any ideas on my prob :S
[05:12] <Dr_willis> dude,  you mean what oneyou are using NOW?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> check the xorg.conf file.
[05:12] <dude> yes
[05:12] <Galathal1on> dude: i like ur nick.. :)
[05:13] <dude> tnx
[05:13] <Galathal1on> i like to call everyone dude.. now its like.. automatic
[05:13] <dude> :)
[05:13] <Galathal1on> :>
[05:14] <papuyadav> hi
[05:14] <dude> what is the command to show my vcard driver?
[05:15] <dude> it seems that im not using the right driver
 check the xorg.conf file.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> open it up in an editor and see what the 'driver' line says
[05:16] <Dr_willis> or use grep. :) if you  are a real man!
[05:16] <dude> Dr_Willis: how?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> how to open it up in an editor/viewer?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Bash 101
[05:16] <DaSkreech> grep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think
[05:16] <Dr_willis> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:16] <Dr_willis> :) upper case
[05:17] <dude> terminal window? sorry, first time to use linux
[05:17] <Dr_willis> of course if you never installed the nvidia or ati drivers... then your card isent using them
[05:17] <ricanelite> how do i install Flash-Player in terminal?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> dude,  then i am betting your card is NOT using the comercial/official  drivers
[05:17] <Dr_willis> dude,  and what is your card?
[05:17] <fdoving> ricanelite: you can't on powerpc. nothing is usable.
[05:18] <ricanelite> ahh got you!
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Poor PPC peoples. :(
[05:18] <dude> nVidia Gforce 440 MX 128 Mb inno3d
[05:18] <fdoving> Dr_willis: poor flash users :)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> dude,  then read/follow the !nvidia guides  to install the nvidia drivers
[05:18] <Dr_willis> !Nvidia
[05:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:19] <fdoving> ricanelite: if you really want to test the flash-stuff, you can install the package
[05:19] <dude> ya i did that but nothing happens
[05:19] <Dr_willis> dude,  then you did somthing wrong.
[05:19] <Dr_willis> you did restart x?
[05:19] <fdoving> ricanelite: libflash-mozplugin
[05:19] <Dr_willis> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf   -->        Driver          "nvidia"
[05:20] <dude> Dr_Willis: so ahould restart?
[05:20] <dude> Dr_Willis: so i should restart?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> K menu --> system --> Konsole  to get to a shell.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> dude,  you just need to restart X not the whole OS.
[05:20] <puttlick> Could I run XGL on kde desktop?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> logout to the KDM screen and then yse alt-ctrl-backspace
[05:20] <Dr_willis> puttlick,   of couse
[05:21] <puttlick> Dr_willis: Okay... because it fucks up when i should install compiz
[05:21] <Dr_willis> puttlick,  i dont advise using eiother of the silly things...  Its useless eye candy
[05:22] <arejaytee> where do i change my parting message in konversation?
[05:23] <papuyadav> basanti tum kahan ho ?
[05:23] <puttlick> Doesn't the compiz apt exist on kubuntu?
[05:23] <fildo> can anyone assist me with an ipw2100 wifi issue
[05:23] <nebi> te la envio por ficheor o te la pego aqui
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !xgl
[05:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:23] <papuyadav> hello my friends
[05:23] <Dr_willis> bbl
[05:24] <dude> Dr_Willis: ok here's the error : Server not found after waiting 5 seconds. Could not find server.
[05:24] <Momal> puttlick: compiz is old one to use now is beryl #beryl
[05:24] <papuyadav> i trying to access vncserver but only thing i am getting is blank screen
[05:25] <papuyadav> :~/.vnc$ cat xstartup
[05:25] <Sh4d0x> hi there
[05:25] <papuyadav> #!/bin/sh
[05:25] <papuyadav> # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:
[05:25] <papuyadav>  unset SESSION_MANAGER
[05:25] <papuyadav>  exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[05:25] <papuyadav> [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ]  && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup
[05:25] <Sh4d0x> can someone help me out with a tiny problem?
[05:25] <papuyadav> [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ]  && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
[05:25] <fdoving> papuyadav: please use a pastebin.
[05:25] <fdoving> !pastebin
[05:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:27] <Sh4d0x> a friend of mine has a common desktop, connect to wifi by using a wireless usb stick ... kubuntu doesn't recognize this usb wifi thing, what is he supposed to do?
[05:28] <dude> how do i activate 3d desktop
[05:28] <Sh4d0x> dude: read faq at the homepage
[05:28] <dude> site?
[05:28] <Sh4d0x> dude: or read the manual it's easy to setup .. bind the key, config the file and ready
[05:28] <Sh4d0x> dude: website
[05:29] <Sh4d0x> dude: http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/
[05:29] <dude> tnx
[05:29] <Sh4d0x> dude: yw =)
[05:30] <Skrot-> How can I access katapults settings?
[05:30] <trappist> Skrot-: right-click the systray icon
[05:30] <Skrot-> trappist: Haven't got it in tray..
[05:31] <Sh4d0x> Skrot-: look through the settings =)
[05:32] <Skrot-> Sh4d0x: In kcontrol?
[05:32] <rick_> whats going on with aptitude updates
[05:32] <rick_> getting allot of 404 errors
[05:33] <Sh4d0x> has any of you freaky kubuntu users some experience with wifi usb tools? =)
[05:33] <Sh4d0x> Skrot-: hold on
[05:33] <Vuen> what's up #kubuntu. i just turned on "Use my KDE fonts in GTK applications", which gets rid of the huge goofy fonts in most non-kde programs.
[05:34] <Vuen> my question is, why on earth isn't this on by default?
[05:34] <Sh4d0x> Skrot-: To configure katapult hit control+c (you change the appearance, shortcuts etc.).
[05:34] <ktosia> hello
[05:34] <ktosia> I just installed Kubuntu 6.06
[05:34] <Sh4d0x> love my ubuntu =P
[05:34] <trappist> Sh4d0x: good stuff.  I didn't know about that.
[05:35] <ktosia> apt-get install mc reports that there is no such package.... how to fix?
[05:35] <trappist> ktosia: add the universe repository
[05:35] <trappist> !info mc
[05:35] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[05:35] <rick_> there a problem doing aptitude updates today...
[05:35] <Sh4d0x> ktosia: try your resources
[05:35] <ktosia> how exacly to do it?
[05:35] <trappist> rick_: us.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be jacked
[05:35] <ktosia> wht to add to souerces.list
[05:35] <trappist> !universe > ktosia
[05:35] <ktosia> or how to edit in synaptic
[05:35] <rick_> jacked ??? you mean hacked
[05:35] <Sh4d0x> ktosia: sudo gedit etc/apt/sources.list
[05:36] <Hawkwind> rick_: Best to remove the us. part
[05:36] <Sh4d0x> ktosia: add multiverse
[05:36] <rick_> great removing
[05:36] <Hawkwind> rick_: You can use just archive.ubuntu.com or pick a different mirror
[05:36] <dude> oh god...it seems that i have to do lots of things to enjoy 3ddesktop
[05:36] <trappist> rick_: by jacked I just mean misbehaving
[05:36] <Sh4d0x> dude: no it's easy
[05:36] <rick_> oh
[05:36] <livingdaylight> !paste
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:36] <dude> as a newbie, i am confined
[05:37] <rick_> have the us. in there for english related items
[05:37] <Sh4d0x> dude: what makes it so hard for you? i'll guide you
[05:37] <dude> Sh4dOx: can u help me
[05:37] <trappist> dude: as a many-year veteran, I found it difficult too.  how hard it is depends a lot on your setup.
[05:37] <dude> oh thank you
[05:37] <Sh4d0x> i know shit about kubuntu (i'm using ubuntu... just came by to ask a queston for a friend of mine) .. but i'll try to help you
[05:38] <dude> Sh4dOx: ok
[05:38] <trappist> I guess I had so much trouble because compiz-kde just plain didn't work
[05:38] <dude> Sh4dOx: ok, so what is the first step?
[05:38] <Sh4d0x> i'm using 3d desktop myself, it's fine, altough I don't use it that much ... some eye candy :D
[05:38] <trappist> Sh4d0x: language please
[05:38] <Sh4d0x> trappist: language?
[05:38] <fdoving> !language
[05:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:39] <Sh4d0x> trappist: ow you mean s**t  =D
[05:39] <rick_> is there a irc channel just for KDE or what is the best channel for KDE
[05:39] <Hawkwind> I want to give compiz/xgl a try, but I've seen so many users wreck their system trying to get it to work, that scares me
[05:39] <Hawkwind> rick_: #KDE
[05:39] <rick_> great tks
[05:39] <Sh4d0x> dude: if you get stuck tell me =)
[05:39] <dude> Sh4dOx: ok, so what is the first step?
[05:40] <ktosia> do I need anything besides   main restricted multiverse universe    to havbe mplayer win32codecs etc?
[05:40] <Sh4d0x> get the package and install it
[05:40] <Sh4d0x> sudo apt-get install 3ddesk
[05:40] <dude> i did
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ktosia: no
[05:40] <Hawkwind> ktosia: Not really, no
[05:40] <Sh4d0x> make sure your graphic card is installed fine
[05:40] <Sh4d0x> then do the key bind thing
[05:41] <Sh4d0x> or
[05:41] <Sh4d0x> typ in your command "3ddesk"
[05:41] <dude> Sh4dOx: ok here's the error : Server not found after waiting 5 seconds. Could not find server.
[05:41] <Sh4d0x> dude: have you changed your repositories?
[05:41] <Sh4d0x> it's a multiverse package
[05:41] <dude> Sh4dOx: how?
[05:42] <Vuen> Hawkwind, it won't wreck your system.
[05:42] <Vuen> Hawkwind, whatever changes you make, you can reverse them.
[05:42] <Vuen> trust me, it's totally worth it; I'm using Beryl now, and it's amazing.
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Vuen: I know.  I just don't really have the time to have the system break and then go back and fix it at the moment.  I'd rather wait when I really have the time
[05:42] <Sh4d0x> dude: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Vuen: You using beryl on Dapper or Edgy ?
[05:43] <Vuen> edgy
[05:43] <Vuen> but i had it working on dapper before i upgraded
[05:43] <Vuen> i used it on dapper for a month or so, then i upgraded and changed from xgl to nvidia-beta
[05:43] <dude> Sh4dOx: (gedit:7272): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[05:43] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x: gksudo when using gedit and this is kde most may not have gedit installed
[05:43] <dude> Sh4dOx: (gedit:7272): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[05:44] <gnomefreak> dude: do you have gnome installed?
[05:44] <Sh4d0x> so you install gedit
[05:44] <Sh4d0x> or use vim
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Vuen: I've got the nvidia-beta(9625) drivers installed here currently
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Vuen: Is there a certain how-to you recommend to follow that is for sure to work ?
[05:44] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x: whats wrong with kedit or kate or any number of them
[05:44] <Sh4d0x> gksudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <gnomefreak> nano
[05:44] <dude> KDE
[05:44] <Hawkwind> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <Hawkwind> dude: ^^^^^^^^^
[05:45] <Hawkwind> You should have kwrite installed already since you're using Kubuntu and not Ubuntu
[05:45] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak: sry i'm ubuntu user ;)  ... just came by to ask a question and willing to help this poor guy =)
[05:46] <dude> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[05:46] <Hawkwind> dude: You can ignore that X error
[05:46] <dude> k
[05:46] <gnomefreak> dude: it should still open
[05:46] <dude> yes
[05:46] <Hawkwind> dude: However, when you get done doing what you're doing, I'll give you a link to fix the bad device errors
[05:46] <dancemaster> hello
[05:46] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: there is one?
[05:46] <Hawkwind> Hello :)
[05:47] <dude> ok, whats the nxt step?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> !baddevice > gnomefreak
[05:47] <gnomefreak> ty ;)
[05:47] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: It's on my forums there :)
[05:47] <gnomefreak> ah
[05:47] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: However, we need to lobby to get the wacom stuff removed from xorg.conf by default for Edgy+1
[05:47] <dude> the soirces list is open
[05:47] <Sh4d0x> dude: you should ad the multiverse sources
[05:48] <dude> :( how
[05:48] <Sh4d0x> using easy sources is the easiest way
[05:48] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Since xorg.conf is created by installed software, wacom shouldn't be there for those of us who don't have wacom at all.  It's quite annoying
[05:48] <dancemaster> when i connect 2 my vnc server i get a blank screen :-(
[05:48] <qkr> I can't choose "manage repositories" in Adept...it is gray...can anyone help?
[05:48] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: very true
[05:48] <Sh4d0x> dude: i'll link you
[05:48] <dude> ok
[05:48] <dude> tnx
[05:48] <qkr> dude: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:49] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Who/Where should I bring this up....I'd really like to make this happen
[05:49] <Hawkwind> qkr: On edgy ?
[05:49] <qkr> yep
[05:49] <dancemaster> xstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/937
[05:49] <gnomefreak> TB meeting i would think or #ubuntu-devel
[05:49] <Hawkwind> qkr: Known issue, edit the file manually
[05:49] <qkr> what file is that?
[05:49] <dancemaster> when i connect 2 my vnc server i get a blank screen :-(
[05:49] <Hawkwind> qkr: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:50] <dancemaster> qrk:vnc server xstartup file
[05:50] <Momal> when i login to kopete with msn kopete crashes only on 1 msn account on this user login :S
[05:50] <Hawkwind> dancemaster: He's talking to me
[05:51] <dancemaster> pl in the name of salsa pl someone pl help me
[05:51] <Sh4d0x> dude: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:51] <Sh4d0x> after it
[05:51] <Sh4d0x> replace ubuntu by kubuntu ... should work
[05:51] <Hawkwind> dancemaster: Patience.  When someone knows and can help, chances are they will
[05:52] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak: correct me if i'm wrong :)
[05:52] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-desktop doesnt depend on kedit :(
[05:52] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x: ubuntu is the repo
[05:52] <gnomefreak> for all
[05:52] <dancemaster> Hawkwind: Thanks for words of wisdom , i wait patiently like a swan in the pond of chaos
[05:53] <Sh4d0x> dude: so use the link i gave you and replace the sources in your file by the one you generated
[05:53] <dude> Sh4dOx: ok, its done
[05:53] <Sh4d0x> dude: yet try to install the package again
[05:54] <dude> Sh4dOx: 3ddesktop?
[05:54] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak: do you know anything about wifi by using a usb stick to connect to a router?
[05:54] <Sh4d0x> dude: gksudo apt-get install 3ddesktop
[05:54] <dude> k hold on
[05:54] <Sh4d0x> i will =)
[05:55] <gnomefreak> apt-get is text dont use gksudo with it
[05:55] <dude> ok
[05:55] <dude> installed
[05:55] <gnomefreak> and no im not a wifi guy
[05:55] <Sh4d0x> dude: yet type in your terminale "3ddesk" of "3ddesktop" it should run it ... by that I can give you a small preview ;)
[05:56] <Flosoft> hey
[05:56] <Flosoft> how can I burn an .IMA file?
[05:56] <fdoving> Sh4d0x: what wifi card?
[05:56] <Flosoft> does K3B support that?
[05:56] <Sh4d0x> it will tough only work if your graphic card is correct installed
[05:56] <dude> Sh4dOx: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:57] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: it's not a card, it's a us robotics wifi router ... my friend is trying to connect to it by using a usb stick ... his kubuntu doesn't recognize the usb so he can't connect to his router
[05:57] <Sh4d0x> dude: your graphic is not installed properly
[05:57] <fdoving> Sh4d0x: what usb stick? trying to connect to it with a usb-cable?
[05:58] <dude> :(
[05:58] <Sh4d0x> dude: nvidia or ati?
[05:58] <dude> nvidia
[05:59] <Sh4d0x> dude:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:59] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: it's a us robotics "set" router + usb connection stick
[06:00] <fdoving> Sh4d0x: what's the name and number of the stick?
[06:01] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: hold on, i call him by phone (he has no internet connection because of his wifi problem)
[06:02] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: us robotics #5461
[06:02] <Sh4d0x> sorry he is mistaking
[06:02] <Sh4d0x> #5421
[06:03] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: wireless MAXg USB adapter model 5421
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Skrot-: Alt+Space then Ctrl+C
[06:03] <ricanelite> can you run OS X on Ubuntu Linux
[06:03] <Sh4d0x> ricanelite: yes
[06:03] <Sh4d0x> ricanelite: use vmware
[06:04] <ricanelite> what type of software you need?
[06:04] <Sh4d0x> it creates a virtual partion on which you can install os X
[06:04] <ricanelite> where can I get vmware?
[06:04] <Sh4d0x> google
[06:04] <ricanelite> is it hard to do?
[06:05] <ricanelite> do you have a mac?
[06:05] <Sh4d0x> http://shadox.ifastnet.com/printscreens
[06:05] <Sh4d0x> no i don't have a mac
[06:05] <Sh4d0x> i'm on ubuntu
[06:06] <ricanelite> wow i love your desktop
[06:06] <Sh4d0x> thnx
[06:06] <Sh4d0x> vmware ain't hard to get
[06:06] <Sh4d0x> i'll link you, hold on
[06:06] <Hawkwind> vmware.com
[06:06] <fdoving> Sh4d0x: that's the router, right, what's the name of the stick?
[06:06] <Hawkwind> ricanelite: ^^^
[06:07] <Sh4d0x> Hawkwind: thnx for your assist ^^
[06:07] <Hawkwind> ricanelite: You can also install vmware-player by doing sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[06:07] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: hold on, i'll call again
[06:07] <ricanelite> whats that?
[06:08] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: that was the name fot he stick, the number of the router is 5461
[06:08] <fdoving> Sh4d0x: USR 5421 ?
[06:08] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: yes
[06:08] <fdoving> http://www.usr.com/products/networking/wireless-product.asp?sku=USR5421
[06:08] <fdoving> is it this?
[06:08] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: yes
[06:09] <Sh4d0x> that's it, i couldn't get it to work, his kubuntu won't recognize the usb tool, i did looked for a driver ... didn't find anything :(
[06:09] <Sh4d0x> ricanelite: that's the vmware-player, the name of the package you  need
[06:10] <fdoving> Sh4d0x: i think he must use ndiswrapper
[06:10] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: yeah, i was thinking about that too
[06:10] <ricanelite> okay and that will allow me to run os x on my Ubuntu Linux machine?
[06:10] <Sh4d0x> fdoving: or using wine?
[06:11] <Sh4d0x> ricanelite: yes
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Momal: can you run kopete from the command line and see if it throws an error htere?
[06:11] <Sh4d0x> it let's you create a virtual partition
[06:11] <fdoving> ricanelite: mol
[06:11] <Sh4d0x> on which you can install os X
[06:11] <Momal> i don't think it does anymore but i'll get you all the output it gives :)
[06:11] <fdoving> ricanelite: search for and install the 'mol' package.
[06:11] <fdoving> ricanelite: it'll let you boot the macosx installation.
[06:12] <Sh4d0x> 'mol' is server + player, right?
[06:12] <dancemaster> when i connect 2 my vnc server i get a blank screen :-(
[06:12] <fdoving> mol is a program.
[06:12] <Momal> OMFG
[06:12] <Momal> it just loged in and work
[06:12] <ricanelite> i did'nt find it Adept Manager
[06:12] <Momal> and i got this weird message from yahoo about networks joing... seems like microsoft was screwing me up
[06:12] <Sh4d0x> ow, k =D ... i'm using vmware for my windows, so i can photoshop in ubuntu =D
[06:13] <fdoving> ricanelite: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto
[06:13] <dancemaster> pl in the name of samba pl someone pl help me
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: it doesnt work
[06:13] <ricanelite> thanl you fdoving you might be getting annoyed by me
[06:13] <ricanelite> lol
[06:13] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: What doesn't work ?
[06:14] <fdoving> ricanelite: not at all. :)
[06:14] <DaSkreech> dancemaster: And there is no error?
[06:14] <Sh4d0x> ricanelite: there are a lot of good tutorials discribing how to use vmware (and how to install it)
[06:14] <DaSkreech> It just ocnnects?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: commenting out things to diable wacom
[06:14] <dude_> Sh4dOx: still errors
[06:14] <dancemaster> i gett empty screen
[06:14] <dancemaster> xstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/937
[06:14] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Define doesn't work if you could....  As in X doesn't start, you still get the errors ?
[06:15] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: I've commented the stuff out in my xorg.conf and I no longer get those errors
[06:15] <gnomefreak> X doesnt start unidentified identifier
[06:15] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:15] <Sh4d0x> dude_: o.O
[06:15] <gnomefreak> i comment them out i dont get X
[06:15] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: You didn't use that exact xorg.conf on the how-to did you ?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Sh4d0x: where did you get that desktop frrom
[06:15] <Sh4d0x> dude_: what are your outputs?
[06:15] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: Hawkwind no
[06:15] <rick_> here a question: can one do a upgrade, while have some apps running ? or is it better to have nothing running,(for the most part).
[06:15] <dude_> Sh4dOx: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:15] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: my xorg.config is all kinds of customized
[06:15] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Hmmm, strange stuff.
[06:15] <DaSkreech> dancemaster: And the server and client are using hte same protocols?
[06:16] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Customized in what ways ?
[06:16] <Sh4d0x> DaSkreech: i'm a designer =) you might find one or more of my works on devianart
[06:16] <dude_> Sh4dOx: Xlib: i already installed driver
[06:16] <dancemaster> DaSkreech: yes vnc
[06:16] <Sh4d0x> dude_: did you installed the right one?
[06:16] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: i have adde da bunch of things to get the nivida beta drivers to work
[06:16] <fdoving> dancemaster: you want to start kde?
[06:16] <dancemaster> Vncviewer and Vnc server
[06:16] <dancemaster> fdoving: yes
[06:16] <dancemaster> xstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/937
[06:16] <Sh4d0x> cuz there is a big difference between the cards and the glx packages which need to be installed
[06:17] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Really ?  I'm using the nvidia beta drivers without having to touch my xorg.conf.  I also use twinview
[06:17] <livingdaylight> !paste
[06:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Sh4d0x: Ha ha My friend is asking if the image is open source :)
[06:17] <yeti> in system settings, when i go into administrator mode, the controls will show up but stay gray, sometimes they will become available after some secondes, but with the file sharing panel, it stays gray
[06:17] <dude_> Sh4dOx: i think so
[06:17] <fdoving> dancemaster: ok, just remove the two last lines, and add 'exec startkde' as the final line
[06:17] <Sh4d0x> DaSkreech: no it's not open source ... you want it?
[06:17] <fdoving> dancemaster: i think that should work.
[06:17] <yeti> -> i cant edit my samba configuration. what do i do?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Sh4d0x: Yeah :)
[06:17] <Sh4d0x> DaSkreech: i'll put it on my server so you can download it, hold on
[06:18] <dude_> Sh4dOx: how do u check if u installed the right driver
[06:18] <fdoving> yeti: how do you try to do it?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: i needed it to use beryl when it was just started
[06:18] <hazard2> with the normal installer CD is there any way to install on a machine with SLIGHTLY less than 192mb ram?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: i had to add things to it
[06:18] <hazard2> (192-16)?
[06:18] <fdoving> hazard2: try.
[06:18] <hazard2> I did, the installer tries to load, then mysteriously goes away.
[06:18] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Ahhh, so maybe it's the fact that you have beryl/xgl and all that in there.  That I'm not sure about
[06:18] <dude_> Sh4dOx: how do i check if i installed the right driver
[06:19] <dude_> Sh4dOx: how do i check if i installed the right vcard driver
[06:19] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: This is yet another reason I'm scared to try compiz/xgl/beryl, though I really want to
[06:19] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: i dont anymore but i keep the onfig for other reasons
[06:19] <yeti> fdoving, kmenu -> system settings -> file sharing -> click on administrator mode -> enter password -> controls will show up, including shared folders table (obv empty) but stay gray, i can't edit anything at all
[06:19] <hazard2> sigh...
[06:19] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Thought about making a backup of that xorg.conf and trying with a default one to see if it works ?
[06:20] <gnomefreak> well i would before you request it being disabled
[06:20] <Sh4d0x> DaSkreech: sry, they are on my ext3 partition, can't read that partion yet, i'll put it online as soon as possible
[06:20] <dude_> Sh4dOx: how do i check if i installed the right vcard driver
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Sh4d0x: Sure :)
[06:20] <hazard2> even downloading at 700k/sec this is taking annoyingly long.
[06:21] <Sh4d0x> dude_: have you done exactly what it says in the wiki?
[06:21] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: The only change(s) I've made to my xorg.conf is the fact that I'm using nvidia and twinview.  Other than that, I have a pretty default xorg.conf file
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Sh4d0x: reminds me of a UT2k4 level I downloaed that allowed you to play in a zelda the Wind wakrer world
[06:21] <Sh4d0x> DaSkreech: http://shadox.ifastnet.com/printscreens    i placed a simular online .. check ik out
[06:21] <dancemaster> i am still blank grey screen
[06:21] <hazard2> that's tough luck...
[06:21] <fdoving> yeti: try to run it with Kmenu -> run command -> type: 'kdesu kcmshell fileshare'
[06:22] <dancemaster> i am still getting blank grey screen
[06:22] <Sh4d0x> DaSkreech: i made it based on "ireland" the windows wallpaper, created it with illustrator
[06:22] <fdoving> dancemaster: are you trying to share your current desktop, or make new sessions for each vnc connection?
[06:22] <hazard2> dancemaster: trying to do WHAT exactyl?
[06:22] <DaSkreech> It's nice :)
[06:22] <Sh4d0x> DaSkreech: hold on, i'll boot in ubuntu brb
[06:22] <dancemaster> on vncviewer (after restarting or -kill :1 )
[06:23] <DaSkreech> !schedule
[06:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:23] <dude_> what is linux-restricted-modules
[06:23] <hazard2> it seems that kubuntu IS installing running on this machine without enough ram...
[06:23] <hazard2> but window resizing takes forever &etc
[06:24] <DaSkreech> dude_: A set of packages that shouldn't be allowed but Ubuntu supports tehm anyway
[06:25] <dancemaster> http://paste-bin.com/938
[06:25] <yeti> fdoving, same problem
[06:25] <dancemaster> xstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/938
[06:25] <dancemaster> new xstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/938
[06:26] <fdoving> yeti: ok, try to run it from konsole,(kmenu -> system -> konsole) 'sudo kcmshell fileshare'
[06:26] <yeti> fdoving, same problem
[06:27] <fdoving> yeti: is samba installed and running?
[06:28] <Sh4d01> back
[06:28] <fdoving> yeti: does /etc/samba/smb.conf exist?
[06:28] <yeti> fdoving, yeah... well, i could still manually edit smb.conf
[06:28] <dancemaster> pl in the name of mother marry  pl someone pl help me
[06:29] <yeti> let's try some magic ;) i'll just reboot, does wonders sometimes
[06:29] <Sh4d01> DaSkreech: it's online :)
[06:29] <Momal> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26611/ <-- thats the console output and backtrace from kde crash handler
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Momal: Thought it worked now?
[06:30] <Momal> it did then I quit and tried to start up and again and it crashed
[06:30] <Momal> lol
[06:30] <ktosia> how can I enable network sharing?
[06:31] <ktosia> so that my PC can work as gate for laptop, I have two eth cards
[06:31] <Sh4d01> DaSkreech: http://shadox.ifastnet.com/printscreens   you can find it in there :) good luck with it
[06:32] <dancemaster> when i connect 2 my vnc server i get a blank screen :-(
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Momal: off the top of my head I'm assuming that one of your friends ahs a weird wacked out freak @$$ buddy name so when your list loads and SCIM tried to handle it ti panics
[06:32] <dancemaster> xstartup file -> http://paste-bin.com/937
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Sh4 thanks
[06:32] <Momal> oo.. i have scim loaded on my other users as well and it logs into the account on them :S
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Momal: and they have the same buddy list?
[06:33] <Momal> i'll try to kill scim and see if it will run
[06:33] <Momal> yea running same account
[06:33] <Momal> when i tried it
[06:33] <Momal> other msn accounts are fine just not my main one :S
[06:34] <Momal> also only happened since update to kopete 0.12.3
[06:35] <yeti> fdoving, strange, it works now :)
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Wanna take it up in #kopete ?
[06:35] <AxL> Re-Hi : My eth card is disable and I can not modify it via gui network setting even if I enter the admin mode :\
[06:35] <fdoving> yeti: some voodoo magic i don't understand then.
[06:36] <Tams> hey ho
[06:36] <yeti> fdoving, well, it works, so everything's fine - but do you happen to know why /tmp is shared by default?
[06:37] <fdoving> yeti: no idea.
[06:37] <Tams> A mate installed a Dapper on a HDD on his box and KDE won't boot on mine. How can I reconfigure it so it'd work?
[06:38] <AxL> How to enable my eth card with a command line ?
[06:38] <AxL> It is disabled ... It worked before :(
[06:38] <AxL> It is eth0
[06:40] <arafat> AxL: maybe 'sudo ifup eth0' ?
[06:42] <AxL> arafat: command return  too few parameters
[06:42] <AxL> "too few parameters"
[06:42] <DaSkreech> sudo ifup -a
[06:43] <AxL> DaSkreech: same :\
[06:43] <Momal> ifconfig eth0 up
[06:43] <Momal> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[06:43] <MaKaTiGuY> help...
[06:43] <hazard2> is the installer cd supposed to be cancer-causingly slow?
[06:43] <hazard2> what dude?
[06:43] <livingdaylight> Hi everyone
[06:43] <Momal> did you live O_O
[06:44] <Momal> you been gone for ages lol!
[06:44] <dude> i did something wrong with my kubuntu
[06:44] <dude> crashed
[06:44] <dude> :(
[06:44] <hazard2> who are you talking to Momal?
[06:44] <fdoving> hazard2: if you install on a machine with less memory than supported, yes.
[06:44] <hazard2> Of course...
[06:44] <Momal> hazard2: don't worry :p
[06:44] <AxL> Momal: command returned nothing but eth0 is still disabled :(
[06:44] <dude> hazard2: i did something wrong with my kubuntu
[06:44] <DaSkreech> hazard2: Well if you get Cancer then no we didn't intend that at all. If not then yes :)
[06:45] <DaSkreech> sudo ifconfig -a
[06:45] <hazard2> Hrm....
[06:45] <Momal> AxL: thats really weird more weirder then my kopete just crashing.. that command works for me all the time :S
[06:45] <DaSkreech> And pastebin the results
[06:45] <arafat> AxL: what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Momal: You can have conflicts with it
[06:46] <dude> hazard2: how do i revert the previous setting of kubuntu
[06:46] <puttlick> why does it says wrong password when im using su, aint it my root password i should use?
[06:46] <xavier> hi. how can  i use kppp over ethernet? instead of modem .. using eth0 ?
[06:46] <fdoving> !rootsudo
[06:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:47] <dude> pls help
[06:47] <dude> my kubuntu is busted
[06:47] <puttlick> so it should be sudo make install?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> dude: normally the file you edited leaves a copy of itself behind
[06:47] <xavier> is there no PPPOE client for kubuntu?
[06:47] <dude> i installed the wrong driver
[06:47] <Dufresn3> salve raga. Qualche buon samaritano che mi aiuti? Ho lasciato 5 giga di spazio sull'hd per installare windows (devo installarlo per forza per utilizzare programmi tecnici). Come devo procedere?
[06:48] <AxL> arafat: I have map eth0 in the mapping hotplug ... normal ?
[06:49] <rober> I can solve the 802.1x. I want to  use the xsupplicant, but failed
[06:49] <AxL> arafat: : what must be the config to make the eth0 load on start up ?
[06:49] <felixjet> how to rename files with console?
[06:49] <dude> DaSkreech: do you know how to fix the problem? like system restore
[06:49] <DaSkreech> dude: soooo where are you now?
[06:49] <dude> Xp
[06:49] <DaSkreech> CLI?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[06:49] <Xal_> Hi
[06:49] <dude> i cant use my kubuntu
[06:49] <DaSkreech> What does it do?
[06:49] <arafat> AxL: mine looks like: auto eth1 (newline) iface eth1 inet dhcp
[06:49] <denisbr> Is possible install the ubuntu-desktop in the Kubuntu using the CD-ROM ?
[06:50] <livingdaylight> !paste
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:50] <hazard2> FINALLY a 256mb module
[06:50] <Xal> Is the next linux kernel likely to include jmicron IDE drivers?
[06:50] <dude> first experience in linux, first crash
[06:50] <Xal> denisbr, yes
[06:50] <Xal> You'd need to install Gnome.
[06:50] <denisbr> Xal How?
[06:51] <Xal> Its not included on the CD. You'd have to use synaptics or apt to download the gnome window manager.
[06:51] <hazard2> After testing more than a dozen ram chips from the 'unlabled' pile, I found a working 256...now I should be (better) off.
[06:51] <dude> hazard2: can i system restor kubuntu?(if thats the term)
[06:51] <Xal> lol
[06:51] <denisbr> Xal but, I give the CD of the Ubuntu Dapper
[06:52] <hazard2> Umm...no
[06:52] <hazard2> but you could boot off a cd and fix whatever you broke
[06:52] <hazard2> (usually)
[06:52] <Xal> Then just install it from there.
[06:52] <Momal> funnies thing I have heard: can i system restor kubuntu?(if thats the term) | no offence
[06:52] <AxL> arafat: I did not have the auto .. I had it before :\ I added it. Is there a way to lauch the eth0 right now with a command line ?
[06:52] <dude> hazard2: install the whole OS?
[06:52] <xavier> hey when i open a deb package (opera.deb) Ark opens up and yells "the utility is not in your PATH" help!
[06:52] <|GaiJin|> is there an easy way to set up twinview, so that I can use one monitor as normal, whyile using one to play something in cedega??
[06:52] <arafat> AxL: try sudo ifup -a again
[06:53] <dude> hazard2: install the whole OS?
[06:53] <AxL> arafat: "few parameters" :\ again .. Moreover : "colud not read interfaces file"
[06:54] <dude> i installed the wrong video card driver
[06:54] <arafat> AxL: please paste your interfaces file in pastebin!
[06:54] <Xal2> Is the next linux kernel likely to include jmicron IDE drivers? The new Core2Duo boards are somewhat incompatible with Linux.
[06:54] <DaSkreech> dude: You can if you like or you can ix it
[06:54] <DaSkreech>  your choice
[06:55] <DaSkreech> dude: fix it :)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[06:55] <AxL> arafat: well I got to put it on my usb device .. I must mount it ...
[06:56] <uphill> hi
[06:56] <dude> DaSkreech: how?
[06:56] <AxL> arafat: is this normal that a error occurs when I mount it ? "medi/sd" does not exist ... ?
[06:56] <AxL> sda1
[06:56] <DaSkreech> dude: What does it do when you boot into kubuntu?
[06:56] <uphill> i have a sis soundcard onboard and the master doesent do enything, i controll the master over the PCM channel and i want to change it, how?
[06:57] <AxL> arafat: I mean must I create a dir for all external device ?
[06:57] <dude> DaSkreech: it brings me to plain txt login
[06:57] <arafat> AxL: the target directory has to exist,
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Right so login :)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> and run irssi
[06:57] <dude> irssi?
[06:57] <Momal> probly no X/kde installed or starting up
[06:57] <DaSkreech> it's irc from the command line
[06:57] <DaSkreech>  hold on
[06:57] <arafat> AxL: yeah, create a dir in media and mount your stick into that dir
[06:58] <DaSkreech>  Does anyone know how to login to a server/chan fomr the command line?
[06:58] <AxL> It exists in fact .. but I can not see it in media:/
[06:58] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  in irssi?
[06:59] <AxL> Is this could be due to driver ?
[06:59] <arafat> AxL: what does your mount command look like?
[06:59] <AxL> arafat: I just plugged my device
[06:59] <denisbr> I add in the sources.list files the CDrom of the Ubuntu Dapper, and executed the apt-get update command, but, the ubuntu-desktop package not is show in the apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop, Anybody help me ?
[06:59] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:59] <dude> Dr_willis: because of that 3ddesktop installation, my kubuntu crashed
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Yes but from the command line
[06:59] <arafat> AxL: err... and nothing happened?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> dude,   you are refering to XGL/compwiz?
[07:00] <dude> Dr_willis: hehehe first experince
[07:00] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  try irssi --help
[07:00] <DaSkreech> so irssi --server irc.freenode.net  --chan #kubuntu or something like that
[07:00] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  yep
[07:00] <dude> Dr_willis: i installed the wrong vcard driver
[07:00] <|GaiJin|> is there a tool for setting up dual screens in X?? or do we only have the writing way??
[07:00] <Dr_willis> or make a  irssi config file
[07:00] <AxL> arafat: yes error happens : konqueror : "media:/sda1" does not exist
[07:01] <AxL> arafat: couls this be a driver problem ?
[07:01] <dude> Dr_willis: is there a way to system restore kubuntu?
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: so no chan option?
[07:02] <arafat> AxL: hmm... try to mount it manually: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/<some_directory>
[07:02] <DaSkreech> dude: Ok reboot into the text login and run irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[07:02] <arafat> AxL: and.. is it recognized by your system? what does dmesg say?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> when it comes up type /nick dude
[07:02] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i recall one... time to rtfm. :P i dont use irssi much at all
[07:02] <DaSkreech> and then /join #kubuntu
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: It's almost as  nice as Konversation from what I've seen
[07:03] <Dr_willis> ill stick with xchat 4.2
[07:03] <DaSkreech> dude: and we can help you from there :)
[07:03] <dude> ok, tnx
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: I know you will :)
[07:03] <DaSkreech> dude: write those down if you need to
[07:03] <Dr_willis> dude,  what video card do you have.. and what did you install?
[07:03] <AxL> arafat: message is ""media:/ sda1" does not exist"
[07:04] <dude> nvidia
[07:04] <dude> i'll never install 3ddesktop again
[07:04] <AxL> arafat: I tried to moiunt via command line but error : already mount :_
[07:05] <DaSkreech> dude: It's a noble attempt :)
[07:05] <arafat> AxL: hmm, what does 'df' say? if it's mounted it should tell you the mounting point...
[07:05] <DaSkreech> dude: First advice is don't be afraid to fail
[07:06] <AxL> arafat: I can see it .
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Course the evil thing is I have to go now :)
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: can You make sure he doesn't freak when he get s back
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Oh and teach him about a /home partition :)
[07:07] <AxL> arafat: I can see it with the command but Can not see it in the GUI :\
[07:07] <AxL> arafat: and mounting point is /media/sda1 ...
[07:08] <arafat> AxL: but you can change to that dir in command line, right?
[07:08] <AxL> arafat: sorry I don't understand what you mean ..
[07:08] <AxL> Change what ?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> dude  you installed WHAT exactly? the package name 3ddesktop ?
[07:09] <arafat> AxL: well, 'cd /media/sda1'
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: He's rebooting But it's the video card driver that broke
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: You can ask him again :)
[07:09] <Dr_willis> so wtf is he going on about 3ddesktop then? :P
[07:09] <dude> nice window :)
[07:09] <DaSkreech> dude: I know aint it?
[07:09] <AxL> arafat: mmmh .. yes ... i got it !! Right ! But why not in the konqueror ?
[07:09] <Dr_willis> thats just a ugly app-switcher. :P
[07:10] <dude> ya, i miss my kubuntu
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: desktop switcher to be truthful
[07:10] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  yea  i think it needs to be removed from the repos. :P its a PITA
[07:10] <dude> actually, im beginning to hate Xp
[07:10] <Dr_willis> but that souldent of messed wth anything.
[07:10] <dude> :)
[07:10] <DaSkreech> dude: Ok two things. I goot a go but you can switch to a New text login with Alt+Ctrl+F2
[07:10] <arafat> AxL: no idea.... but you could just put '/media/sda1' in the URL field in konqueror...
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Mail the maintainer
[07:10] <arafat> AxL: so you can use GUI
[07:11] <DaSkreech> Dude: you should be able to come back here with Alt+Ctrl+F1
[07:11] <DaSkreech> dude: play with the alt+Ctrl+F<N> and then come back here
[07:12] <AxL> arafat: ok .. I have it on my device : question : Should I unmount it before unplug it ?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  its the program itself..  that is the issue.. and the fact its like TOP on the package lists so every beginner sees it.. installs it.. then dont bother reading how to actally use it. :)
[07:12] <arafat> AxL: yeah, that's always a good idea:-)
[07:12] <dude> ok
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Yeah I Know I was going to do it myself :)
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Dude: tried it?
[07:12] <AxL> arafat: ok .. but I don't know the command line
[07:12] <dude> what should i do now
[07:12] <AxL> Can you give it to me please ?
[07:12] <arafat> AxL: sudo umount /media/sda1
[07:12] <AxL> Thought it was unmount ...
[07:12] <AxL> Ah ok
[07:13] <Dr_willis> there is no N in umount. :)
[07:13] <Dr_willis> dont ask me why...
[07:13] <AxL> ok
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Alright you can leave this window up and login on Alt+Ctrl+F2 so you can run the commands that you are given
[07:13] <AxL> :)
[07:13] <arafat> :-)
[07:13] <dude> ok
[07:13] <dude> i am logged in
[07:13] <DaSkreech> I gotta go but hopefully Dr_willis and others can help you get back into your GUI
[07:13] <Dr_willis> i go to work in like 20 min
[07:13] <dude> ok, tnx Dakreech
[07:14] <DaSkreech> First thing is that the config file you changed should havea backup file so ask how to switch back to that one
[07:14] <dude> oh sorry, no s
[07:14] <dude> :)
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: no problem elict help from now like I did :)
[07:14] <DaSkreech> That's the great part about community :)
[07:14] <dude> ya there is, but permisiion denied
[07:14] <Dr_willis> use sudo
[07:14] <DaSkreech>  and dude Don't be afraid to fail :)
[07:15] <felixjet> how to rename ethernet interfaces ? my eth1 must be on eth0
[07:15] <DaSkreech> But I agree 3ddesk is not the first package you want to play with
[07:15] <dude> :)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> felixjet: check /etc/network/interfaces
[07:15] <dude> traumatic experience
[07:15] <Dr_willis> 3ddesk shouldent of affected anything. :)
[07:15] <Dr_willis> now the nvidia driver install.. that can affect things
[07:15] <DaSkreech> I'm sure it didn't and once he's done he'll have it working
[07:16] <DaSkreech> But it's still something you won't use in a wekk for al lthe work you put into it
[07:16] <felixjet> thx DaSkreech
[07:16] <bbt> how do i get rid of the ghost lock file for adept?
[07:16] <dude> ok, i use sudo
[07:16] <dude> and ask for the password
[07:16] <felixjet> DaSkreech:  i replace eth1 for eth0 and reboot system?
[07:16] <dude> and back to the command line
[07:17] <Dr_willis> im not even sure what we are doing.. restoring the xorg.config file?
[07:17] <dude> yes
[07:17] <dude> i did that
[07:17] <DaSkreech> felixjet: or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart your choice
[07:17] <KDEfanboy> !adept crash fix
[07:17] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:17] <AxL> http://pastebin.ca/201155 arafat : here the interfaces file
[07:17] <Dr_willis> dude,  did what exactly?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> cd /etc/X11
[07:17] <bbt> actually let me rephrase where is the lock file for adept??
[07:17] <dude> yes
[07:17] <Dr_willis> sudo cp xorg.conf.WHATEVER xorg.conf
[07:18] <dude> yes
[07:18] <dude> but nothing happens
[07:18] <Dr_willis> then you 'should' be back to your original xorg.conf file..  lets check 1 thing.
[07:18] <Dr_willis> nothing  - is vague..
[07:18] <Dr_willis> grep Driver xorg.conf
[07:18] <Dr_willis> -->  Driver          "nvidia"
[07:18] <dude> ok
[07:18] <Dr_willis> thats what driver the file is set to use...
[07:19] <Dr_willis> nv - the non 3d nvidia driver... nvidia = the official nvidia driver
[07:19] <AxL> arafat : do you see something wrong in it ?
[07:20] <arafat> AxL: there is no auto eth1.. can you add that line please and try sudo ifup -a again?
[07:20] <AxL> arafat: of course !!! ..
[07:21] <felixjet> DaSkreech:
[07:21] <felixjet>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                          /etc/network/interfaces:18: duplicate interface
[07:21] <felixjet> ifdown: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[07:21] <felixjet> /etc/network/interfaces:18: duplicate interface
[07:21] <felixjet> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[07:21] <felixjet> :S
[07:21] <AxL> arafat : same error : few para + could not read ...
[07:21] <felixjet> mmm i go delete my eth1 first
[07:21] <felixjet> xD
[07:22] <dude> should i use sudo?
[07:22] <bbt> hm back to what caused the adept crash. i cannot 'ok" the vmware-player install under adept??
[07:22] <Dr_willis> no need for sudo on the grep line
[07:23] <felixjet> lmao?
[07:23] <felixjet> i have my net dissabled
[07:23] <felixjet> and im still connected
[07:23] <felixjet> o_O
[07:23] <Dr_willis> dude if the Driver line shows nv. or vesa or somthing other then nvidia - your system shold bee able to start up X now.
[07:24] <dude> so such file
[07:24] <arafat> AxL: hmm, that's really strange.. maybe go for a reboot and then tell me the output of ifconfig. sorry, i don't have another idea right now:-(
[07:24] <dude> no such file
[07:25] <felixjet> DaSkreech: this dont works :(
[07:25] <Dr_willis> dude,  you are not in the /etc/X11 dir then
[07:25] <AxL> arafat: ok .. thanks .. I reboot ...
[07:25] <Dr_willis> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:26] <fildo> anyone here help with an ipw2100 wifi card
[07:27] <dude> ok
[07:27] <dude> what shoul i type
[07:28] <xavier> hi.. need help setting a custom refresh rate supported by my monitor in kubuntu ... namely 1280x960@68 .. kde is stuck at an eye watering 60 Hz :(
[07:28] <dude> Dr_Willis: are you there?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> yes
[07:28] <Dr_willis> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:28] <dude> Dr_Willis: i did
[07:29] <Dr_willis> and  did it show a Driver  "nv"   line?
[07:29] <dude> nop
[07:29] <AxL> arafat: well still the same :\
[07:29] <dude> blank
[07:29] <Momal> might want to get him to run nvidia-xconfig ?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> you did use "Driver" not 'driver' ?
[07:30] <dude> Driver
[07:31] <Dr_willis> in any event.. if you restored the origianl config file  - it should get you to X at least.
[07:31] <Dr_willis> you are on the console rigt? no X running... if so .. try 'startx' and see if it works
[07:31] <ricanelite> Im happy!!! So happy that at least I could still listen to my Podcast Segments that i use to listen to on my MAC OS X
[07:31] <dude> ok
[07:32] <dude> no device detected
[07:32] <felixjet> hello?
[07:32] <felixjet> >.< i need help :(
[07:33] <felixjet> how can i rename my eth1 into eth0 ?!
[07:34] <livingdaylight> !paste
[07:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:34] <dude> no device detected
[07:35] <Dufresn3> I have left 5 Gigabyte on my HD to install windows. I fear that if I try to install it, it will format the entire HD, isn't it?
[07:35] <dude> Dr_Willis: no device detected
[07:35] <felixjet> how can i rename my eth1 into eth0 ?!
[07:36] <Momal> don't install windows fullstop :)
[07:37] <Dufresn3> I need...
[07:37] <puttlick> could someone help me to find the apt for libsvg?
[07:37] <Dufresn3> I have to work on some technical programs
[07:37] <dude> Dr_Willis: are you there?
[07:38] <dude> Dr_Willis: are you there?
[07:39] <dude> :(
[07:40] <benkong2> Can someone tell me what "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)" means when I do an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:40] <benkong2> It fails while processing python-gtk-1.2
[07:40] <dude> Dr_Willis: are you there?
[07:40] <benkong2> Adept locked up during a dist-upgrade now I have this problem
[07:40] <felixjet> woa!
[07:41] <jel> benkong2: what's the problem?  (just came in, sorry)
[07:41] <benkong2> Can someone tell me what "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)" means when I do an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:41] <benkong2> that's it in a nutshell jel
[07:41] <benkong2> Adept locked up during a dist-upgrade now I have this problem
[07:41] <felixjet> woa ! i renamed it :D
[07:41] <dude> Dr_Willis: are you there?
[07:41] <jel> benkong2: that just means that something before that went wrong.  What other error messages do you get?
[07:42] <benkong2> jel; Errors were encountered while processing: python-gtk-1.2 sql-editor
[07:42] <jel> and the errors for those packages?
[07:43] <benkong2> jel:  there are none
[07:43] <jel> benkong2: try apt-get install python-gtk-1.2 from a terminal
[07:43] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[07:43] <Dr_willis> I got 10 min then i go to work
[07:43] <Martyo> Is Kubuntu Knot 3 the same as Ubuntu Alpha 3 + KDE?
[07:43] <benkong2> jel: ok hold on
[07:43] <jel> it won't work, most likely, just give you the error message
[07:43] <Dr_willis> doh 5 min
[07:43] <dude> :(
[07:44] <Dr_willis> dude,  now whats the issue?
[07:44] <dude> Dr_Willis: no device detected
[07:44] <Dr_willis> what device is it refering to and whats saying this?
[07:44] <dude> nvidia
[07:44] <LjL> Martyo: no. it lacks the gnome packages, for one
[07:45] <LjL> Martyo: besides, there's the Beta out, the knot 3 is obsoleted....
[07:45] <benkong2> jel: let me put this in a pastebin somewhere. The output is just a few lines longer than three. BRB
[07:45] <Dr_willis> lets look at the !nvidia url
[07:45] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[07:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:46] <dude> Dr_Willis: is there a fix option in the live cd ?
[07:47] <Dr_willis> dude,  the 'fix' is to get a correct xorg.conf set up
[07:47] <Dr_willis> boot to the console and use
[07:47] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:47] <Dr_willis> and tell it to use vesa, or nv, and that SHOULD get your X back going.
[07:47] <benkong2> jel: look here http://pastebin.ca/201193
[07:47] <Dr_willis> Im not sure what you managed to install or break.. setting up the nvidia drivers on a new isntall is a 3 min job. :)
[07:48] <benkong2> Or anyone else who whishes to help. I welcome and appreciate any help.
[07:48] <jel> benkong2: ok, hold on
[07:48] <benkong2> jel: sure k
[07:50] <Martyo> Is it a good idea to install Kubuntu Alpha 3 or Ubuntu Beta 1+KDE?
[07:50] <benkong2> I already did " dpkg --configure -a"  it did not fix the problem
[07:50] <dude> Dr_Willis: its ok
[07:51] <jel> benkong2: if you mainly want your apt system working again, you can force dpkg to remove python-gtk-1.2 and sql-editor.  If you really need that to work, you could try removing the pygtk.py file from /usr/share/python-support/gobject/ (if in fact it's in there)
[07:51] <dude> wait
[07:51] <dude> i'll try to reboot
[07:51] <dude> exit
[07:52] <dude> :)
[07:52] <benkong2> jel: ok I'll try removing them first
[07:52] <Dr_willis> dude that last command is the DEFACTO command to reconfigure X. :P
[07:52] <jel> benkong2: OK.  You can maybe rename it so it doesn't clash, and move it back if it doesn't help
[07:53] <benkong2> jel: BTW any thoughts on why apt wants to remove redcloth irb etc?
[07:55] <toxidas> hi anybody help i get the following msg
[07:55] <toxidas> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:55] <toxidas>   compiz-plugins: Depends: compiz-core (>= 0.0.13.54) but 0.0.13.38-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[07:55] <toxidas>                   Depends: csm (>= 0.5) but it is not installable
[07:56] <denisbr> Hi
[07:56] <zorglu_> !info strigi
[07:56] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in any distro I know
[07:57] <toxidas> it says broken packages but...? i don't know which
[07:57] <toxidas> by the way what is csm??
[07:57] <dude> how do i adjust my scree size?
[07:58] <zorglu_> toxidas: compiz+xgl are very experimental software. #ubuntu-xgl has been created to help people on it
[07:58] <toxidas> ok thnx
[07:58] <dom> hi, uh, where do i set how web links are opened?  right now, any like like http://www.example.com, are opening in quanta+ instead of konqueror
[07:58] <user____> I need someone to help me configure my wireless card & sound
[07:58] <dom> so like if i get a link in konversation or kmail, quanta+ opens up
[07:58] <denisbr> I have the Kubuntu installed and I give add the ubuntu, I add the Ubuntu Dapper CD in the sources.list file, but, the apt-cache search command is not show the ubuntu-desktop package. For tests I add the Edubuntu CD in the sources.list file and the apt-cache search edubuntu-deskop command is show .
[08:00] <user____> anyone out there that can help me configure this wireless card & sound?
[08:00] <dude> how do i adjust my screen size?
[08:01] <zorglu_> !resolution
[08:01] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:01] <zorglu_> dude: the above link is for you
[08:01] <rick_> have a major problem with cups, followed a tip on the bug pad to fix this problem and get cups working again, now cups or getting into printer setting is crashing
[08:01] <jeremiah> Hi all just installed
[08:01] <jeremiah> I am loving it
[08:01] <jeremiah> sure beat windoze
[08:02] <user____> eh, anyone? wireless lan card in laptop & sound not working
[08:02] <user____> plz advise
[08:02] <dom> congrats, jeremiah
[08:02] <jeremiah> TY
[08:02] <dom> !sound
[08:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:02] <rick_> said to remove /var/run/cups/cups.sock and replace it with 127.0.0.1
[08:02] <dom> !wireless
[08:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:02] <rick_> cups please
[08:02] <dom> btw user__, user___, and user____ : you can change your nick by typing "/nick <some nick>"
[08:03] <jeremiah> Quick question I have mp3's I saved from my windoze system, and I can't get caffiene to play, do I need to convert to a different format
[08:03] <LjL> !mp3
[08:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <dom> heh, ubotu is cool
[08:04] <jeremiah> I am checking it out now
[08:04] <Shoiab> best Weblogging client in dapper?????????
[08:04] <LjL> !best
[08:04] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:04] <dom> people can give answers by prompting ubotu
[08:04] <Shoiab> with unicode support
[08:05] <LjL> perhaps try "apt-cache show kicker-kblogger"
[08:05] <LjL> would be surprised if it didn't support unicode, but
[08:06] <Shoiab> best Weblogging client in dapper?????????with Unicode support
[08:06] <LjL> !repeat
[08:06] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:06] <Mez> !info logjam > Shoiab
[08:06] <ubotu> logjam: Client for LiveJournal-based sites. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.5.1-5 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 892 kB
[08:07] <jeremiah> Almost three hours online and still no spyware
[08:07] <LjL> jeremiah: duh, you're on ubuntu... i'd be quite surprised if you got any spyware
[08:07] <jeremiah> Thats a new record for me having just left winblows
[08:08] <ricanelite> Will there ever be a Flash player for Ubuntu Linux on a PPC Machine?
[08:08] <puttlick> how do I give konqueror administrative rights?
[08:09] <jeremiah> I got a question... there is a little box thing at the bottom of apples that allows you to scroll through a list of programs and they highlight and grow.
[08:09] <jeremiah> Can I get something similar for linux?
[08:09] <LjL> ricanelite: apt-cache search libflash
[08:09] <LjL> jeremiah: the dock?
[08:09] <jeremiah> yes
[08:09] <aseigo> puttlick: run it via sudo ...
[08:09] <jeremiah> My pitful brain was not coming up with the word
[08:10] <LjL> jeremiah: try "apt-cache show kxdocker" or "apt-cache show kooldock"
[08:10] <aseigo> puttlick: sort of ugly, but it works =)
[08:10] <jeremiah> THANK YOU
[08:10] <LjL> jeremiah: also, you might possibly be interested in "apt-cache show kwin-baghira"
[08:11] <jeremiah> I will look at that one as well
[08:11] <jeremiah> ty
[08:11] <LjL> jeremiah: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/screenies.php
[08:11] <Shoiab> thanks
[08:12] <jeremiah> vn ljl  that will come in handy as well
[08:13] <LjL> jeremiah: also, without having an actual dock of that sort (admittedly, kxdocker is a bit buggy, or was last time i tried), you can right click on your panel, then choose "add new panel" and "external taskbar". then with the right setting of options in the panel configuration, you can have it behave -- if not look -- a bit similar to the Mac dock
[08:13] <jeremiah> Does anyone know when the latest version of KDE is due out?
[08:13] <LjL> KDE 3.5.5 just came out
[08:13] <jeremiah> I was speaking about 4?
[08:13] <rick_> any guru for cups, please
[08:13] <LjL> jeremiah: i'm not sure anybody can tell for sure
[08:13] <sykickvision> isnt' there some other easier way to configure the lan card than to wade through all of the forums?
[08:14] <sykickvision> wireless lan that is
[08:14] <jeremiah> ok,  I was just reading up on it awhile back and it seemed to be integrating some real nice features
[08:15] <Skrot> Riddell: around?
[08:15] <jeremiah> have a great one everyone, I hope to never use a windows machine again.  Though I would love to have photoshop  *sigh..  Time to learn the gimp
[08:18] <wizard> so i am guessing the 6.06.1 iso's are busted?
[08:18] <wizard> i've made 3, from different isos
[08:18] <wizard> all i get the same error
[08:18] <wizard> loading isolinux: disk error 32, ax = 4200, drive 9F
[08:19] <Moataz> hi
[08:19] <wizard> this so happens to be my second iso burn that turns out this way..
[08:19] <wizard> why would kubuntu leave broken iso repositories up on the site?
[08:20] <Moataz> I want to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst, how can i get permission to that?
[08:21] <_Shade_> i'm getting MD5 checksum errors during apt-get update. What can i do about that?
[08:21] <v3ctor> _Shade_: i had those all morning also..i fixed it by switching to the uk mirror
[08:22] <Moataz> can't i modify it?
[08:22] <wizard> thanks for the help?
[08:22] <KDEfanboy> !patience
[08:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:22] <_Shade_> v3ctor can you tell me it's address then, or - better - related sources.list line
[08:23] <wizard> ubotu: im not being rude :-) i am simply flustered as to how 4 iso's on the kubuntu.org repos are.. well... flawd... and I know i wouldn't mess up 6 isos because 2 other disto isos were created just fine.
[08:23] <ubotu> im: mail/news handling commands and Perl modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:148-3 (dapper), package size 309 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[08:23] <_Shade_> v3ctor: can i pm you some info?
[08:24] <KDEfanboy> wizard: ubotu is a bot (heh)
[08:24] <KDEfanboy> wizard: what filename are you talking abaout anyway?
[08:24] <wizard> KDEfanboy: doh thats right
[08:24] <wizard> KDEfanboy: i'm simply trying to even get kubuntu to install
[08:24] <v3ctor> uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:24] <KDEfanboy> wizard: what's the iso filename
[08:24] <wizard> KDEfanboy: i've made 3 iso's off of kubuntu.org all of which are different sizes and corrupt
[08:24] <wizard> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[08:24] <wizard> kubutnu*
[08:24] <wizard> kubuntu* blah
[08:25] <KDEfanboy> wizard: did they pass the md5sum check ?
[08:25] <wizard> didn't even run it
[08:25] <KDEfanboy> do that
[08:25] <_Shade_> v3ctor: thanks dude :)
[08:25] <wizard> im making them on a windows computer
[08:25] <sven-tek> wie heisst das kde scanprogramm nochmal
[08:26] <sredna> Kooka, sven-tek
[08:26] <KDEfanboy> wizard: i've booted that iso with a successful m5dsum without that error
[08:26] <sven-tek> thanx
[08:26] <KDEfanboy> actually..
[08:26] <wizard> KDEfanboy: i am trying a torrent iso now
[08:27] <wizard> KDEfanboy: it looks like its the right size... so hopefully it will go wit hno error
[08:28] <sphere> installerade ett tema reluna.kth och fick massa maximize windows sound osv hur tar ja bort ljuden???
[08:28] <KDEfanboy> !de
[08:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:30] <i4get> hmm kde 5.5 is ready...wow
[08:35] <felixjet> !ru
[08:35] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[08:35] <steve_> hello all
[08:35] <steve_> can i just say wow
[08:35] <felixjet> yea, say wow
[08:35] <felixjet> lol
[08:35] <steve_> lol
[08:35] <felixjet> !wow
[08:35] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:35] <felixjet> XD
[08:35] <felixjet> i love ubotu
[08:35] <steve_> ive been struggling  with pcbsd and openbsd
[08:35] <felixjet> but i think im gonna get banned for using it lol
[08:35] <steve_> tried kubuntu, and well... wow :-) it works
[08:36] <felixjet> yea, awesome
[08:36] <steve_> :-)
[08:37] <felixjet> say a rare language
[08:38] <felixjet> !jam
[08:38] <ubotu> jam: Software-build tool, replacement for make. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5rel-1 (dapper), package size 106 kB, installed size 344 kB
[08:39] <felixjet> !zw
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <felixjet> zimbabwe help is missing XD
[08:39] <felixjet> !ng
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <felixjet> nigeria too
[08:39] <felixjet> psss k i stop
[08:39] <intelikey> ZIMBABWE                                        ZW      ZWE     716
[08:40] <felixjet> !zwe
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zwe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <felixjet> its missing
[08:40] <felixjet> on ubotu
[08:40] <intelikey> !zw
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <intelikey> seems to be
[08:40] <felixjet> !ch
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <felixjet> china :] 
[08:41] <felixjet> !jp
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <intelikey> SWITZERLAND                                     CH      CHE     756
[08:41] <felixjet> what about china?
[08:41] <felixjet> is not ch?
[08:41] <moerf> guten abend
[08:41] <intelikey> CHINA                                           CN      CHN     156
[08:41] <intelikey> TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF CHINA                       TW      TWN     158
[08:41] <felixjet> oh, cn
[08:41] <felixjet> !cn
[08:41] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:42] <felixjet> XD
[08:42] <Shoiab> from where I download flash player for dapper
[08:42] <felixjet> shoiab from macromedia site
[08:42] <intelikey> !flash
[08:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <Shoiab> ok
[08:43] <felixjet> boy a probar
[08:44] <jhutchins_wk> adept-updater crashed - how do I re-launch it?
[08:44] <felixjet> hehe ( i was trying spell checker
[08:44] <felixjet> thx intelikey
[08:44] <intelikey> np
[08:45] <jhutchins_wk> ah, adept_notifier.
[08:47] <chris_> hi, where can i set the filetype associations (sry i am newb)
[08:49] <chris_> ?
[08:49] <felixjet> mmmmmm, how can i use .rar files ?
[08:49] <intelikey> chris_ right click a file and there is a menu
[08:49] <felixjet> apt-get install rar *dont works
[08:49] <intelikey> felixjet install unrar
[08:49] <intelikey> !rar
[08:49] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:50] <chris_> thxx
[08:50] <intelikey> there is a free version of unrar in the archives
[08:50] <chris_> has anyone tried the new kde yet?
[08:50] <cox377> Hello all, i've added a share drive from another kubuntu machine to this one, however when connecting to it under windows it asks for a user name and pass and i  have full rights of the files, however when under kubuntu it just automaticaly opens the drive as a guest
[08:51] <felixjet> unrar is not on my lists
[08:51] <felixjet> but my sources.list have universe and multiverse
[08:51] <intelikey> several have.  and some report a few problems with printing and other prifreal things
[08:51] <cox377> felixjet: i was just about to ask about rar apps as well
[08:51] <zorglu_> !info unrar
[08:51] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[08:51] <intelikey> In component multiverse,
[08:53] <cox377> intelikey: is unrar a command line based one as i've installed it ut it's not showing under programs?
[08:53] <intelikey> !unrar-free
[08:53] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[08:53] <felixjet> lmao
[08:53] <felixjet> with apt-get i coulnt get it
[08:53] <felixjet> but i can with adept
[08:53] <felixjet> k, i installed unrar-nonfree
[08:53] <intelikey> cox377 yeah but ark might be able to use it as a backend
[08:54] <zorglu_> felixjet: unlikely, try again with apt-get and lets bet you find it now :)
[08:54] <cox377> intelikey: Ummm.. and in newbiee terms that means what ; )
[08:54] <intelikey> means try just clicking the file in konqueror now.
[08:55] <Martyo> how do I edit a file owned by root?
[08:55] <intelikey> i can't test for you seeing i don't have kde installed
[08:55] <felixjet> k, and now? :S
[08:55] <intelikey> !sudo > Martyo
[08:55] <felixjet> !unrar-nonfree
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <trappist> Martyo: try, kdesu kate /path/to/file
[08:56] <trappist> or, sudoedit /path/to/file
[08:56] <chris_> felixjet: you should have run apt-get update , perhaps ^^
[08:58] <intelikey> !repos > felixjet
[08:59] <wizard> okay
[08:59] <wizard> kubuntu installed
[08:59] <wizard> but kde isn't installed..
[08:59] <wizard> apt-get dist-upgrade? or something?
[09:00] <jhutchins_wk> wizard: How did you install kubuntu?
[09:00] <felixjet> i dled winrar for linux XD
[09:00] <felixjet> more easy
[09:00] <wizard> from the CD
[09:00] <trappist> wizard: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:00] <wizard> okay
[09:00] <wizard> im chowning my home folder first lol
[09:00] <yuma> hi there!
[09:00] <wizard> this is fresh from a suse 10.1 install
[09:01] <yuma> anyone having issues seeing this site http://ju-ni.net/ in konqueror?
[09:01] <wizard> that REALLY REALLY pissed me off might I add
[09:01] <yuma> I can't see the main page
[09:01] <felixjet> chris and intelikey i added universe and multiverse to my sources.list years ago.. lol of course i updated it
[09:01] <yuma> I just see the header and the footer of the page
[09:02] <wizard> lalalalala slow chown
[09:02] <wizard> lol
[09:02] <wizard> then again i guess chowning 41 gb isn't meant to be fast
[09:02] <yuma> anyone can confirm?
[09:03] <DaSkreech> Martyo: hey
[09:03] <wizard> odd
[09:03] <wizard> it says kubuntu-desktop is at the latest versino
[09:03] <kyaneos> hi
[09:04] <wizard> ah here it goes lol
[09:04] <intelikey> yuma page loads in links
[09:04] <wizard> it wasn't booting kde cos i didn't own my own homefolder
[09:04] <trappist> yuma: I can confirm
[09:04] <yuma> intelikey, trappist: confirm that works or that doesn't work?
[09:04] <intelikey> wizard yep always own your home.
[09:05] <intelikey> yuma the page loads in links
[09:05] <trappist> yuma: there's a bunch of stuff in firefox that's missing in konqueror
[09:05] <intelikey> yuma i don't have konqueror
[09:05] <wizard> apt-get install kernel-source for source?
[09:05] <wizard> or is it already installed?
[09:05] <yuma> intelikey: ok! I didn't undertand you the first time
[09:05] <intelikey> wizard linux-source
[09:05] <wizard> haha
[09:05] <yuma> trappist: but I was viewing that page two days ago
[09:06] <wizard> woops sorry
[09:06] <wizard> does kubuntu have the tiny-nvidia-installer by default now?
[09:06] <felixjet> RPM is easy to install ?
[09:07] <intelikey> !ati
[09:07] <trappist> yuma: *shrug* apparently they changed something
[09:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:07] <felixjet> just convert to .run and go, right'
[09:07] <intelikey> felixjet i found it so.
[09:07] <felixjet> is because i can dl a file in .tar or .rpm
[09:07] <intelikey> but this is not an rpm distro  this is a deb distro.
[09:08] <felixjet> and i hate tars u_U
[09:08] <yuma> trappist: I have just thought of that, haha
[09:08] <yuma> trappist: I'll ask them if they know
[09:08] <intelikey> !.deb
[09:08] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[09:08] <intelikey> !.rpm
[09:08] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[09:08] <felixjet> quite dangerous'
[09:08] <felixjet> why?
[09:09] <jhutchins_wk> I keep getting errors when I start apps from a console:
[09:09] <jhutchins_wk> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[09:09] <trappist> felixjet: binary compatibility, you never know where they're going to put things, etc.
[09:09] <felixjet> so better dl the .tar instead the .rpm ?
[09:09] <trappist> jhutchins_wk: you can ignore them.  it's from the support for wacom tablets in your xorg.conf.
[09:10] <jhutchins_wk> felixjet: THe problem is that rpm's assume a different system architecture - libraries and files in different places.
[09:10] <felixjet> ic jhutchins_wk
[09:10] <jhutchins_wk> trappist: Thanks, and that is SO STUPID!  Why do we force wacom support for the 0.0001% of people that have them?
[09:11] <jhutchins_wk> It's a problem in Gentoo too.
[09:11] <trappist> jhutchins_wk: I agree, but it doesn't break anything, it's just annoying
[09:11] <jhutchins_wk> felixjet: Even on rpm based systems, if you install an RPM that's meant for Mandriva on a Fedora system, you can completely hose the system.
[09:11] <wizard> hmmm
[09:11] <wizard> the nvidia guide doesn't make sense
[09:11] <wizard> i can't find the "synaptic package manager
[09:13] <wizard> is that gudie to installing nvidia drivers outdated or something?
[09:14] <CVirus> !nvidia
[09:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:14] <intelikey> wizard no it's writen for ubuntu  not kubuntu
[09:14] <CVirus> wizard: let me check
[09:15] <intelikey> note the   K in kubuntu
[09:15] <intelikey> !synaptic
[09:15] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:15] <intelikey> !adept
[09:15] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:15] <CVirus> wizard: you could use adept ^
[09:15] <CVirus> anyhow
[09:16] <CVirus> !universe
[09:16] <intelikey> you can install and use synaptic if you'd rather
[09:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:16] <wizard> i got an error while running nvidia-glx-cinfig enable
[09:16] <CVirus> wizard: do you mind sharing it with us ?
[09:16] <wizard> "this script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe this is not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command"
 i got an error while running nvidia-glx-cinfig enable <--- renders no help.  however if you would have just posted the error it might
[09:17] <wizard> "md6sum /etc/x11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf/md5sum"
[09:17] <intelikey> so do that.
[09:17] <intelikey> without the "
[09:17] <wizard> i edited it myself
[09:18] <intelikey> yes and thus it's not default  so you need to
[09:18] <wizard> and boom, working nvidia drivers
[09:18] <intelikey> md6sum /etc/x11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf/md5sum
[09:18] <trappist> md6sum?
[09:18] <CVirus> !
[09:19] <intelikey> trappist i just copied and pasted the eariler post.  but yeah. good point
[09:19] <wizard> okay ran that
[09:19] <wizard> !mp3
[09:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:19] <mart> hi, anyone remember if an MTA was in dapper?
[09:19] <mart> in the default release, I mean.
[09:19] <wizard> i want ot use the xine engine on my amarok player with mp3
[09:20] <intelikey> so use it.
[09:20] <CVirus> wizard: install amarok-xine
[09:20] <CVirus> !amarok
[09:20] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[09:20] <intelikey> !amarok-xine
[09:20] <ubotu> amarok-xine: xine engine for the amaroK audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 45 kB, installed size 172 kB
[09:21] <jhutchins_wk> Hm.  Every time I start a new session, I don't have sound.
[09:21] <CVirus> jhutchins_wk: and what do you have to do so that sound works in that new session ?
[09:22] <jhutchins_wk> Trying to remember...
[09:22] <jhutchins_wk> GOing into system settings seems like it was part of it...
[09:22] <wizard> says its already installed.
[09:22] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, test sound works, but nothing from amarok...
[09:23] <CVirus> wizard: launch amarok ---> menu bar ----> configure amarok
[09:23] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, I have sound.  Maybe it's just a bad stream.
[09:23] <wizard> it says amarok-xine is installed but its not playing mp3's still
[09:23] <wizard> !mp3
[09:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:24] <CVirus> wizard: read this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:24] <CVirus> wizard: install libxine-extracodecs .. and please read the page too
[09:25] <wizard> where does apt-get storei ts config files so i can allow universe and multiverse? its been a wihle
[09:25] <jhutchins_wk> Yeah, dead stream.  The fake "analyser" in amarok fooled me.
[09:25] <CVirus> !universe
[09:25] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:25] <CVirus> wizard: ^
[09:25] <CVirus> wizard: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:26] <wizard> thanks
[09:26] <CVirus> no problem
[09:30] <justaguy> Is there a kubuntu edgy forum?
[09:31] <justaguy> oops....irc
[09:31] <matteo> do anybody know how to activate the tap-and-drag function on a laptop ?
[09:31] <hazard2> Is there a version of VLC for kubuntu?
[09:32] <CVirus> !vlc
[09:32] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:32] <CVirus> !codecs
[09:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:32] <wizard> hmmm
[09:32] <wizard> how can i change what device alasa is using as my default audio?
[09:33] <DaSkreech> CVirus: Why don't we just edit the !nividia page to reflect Kubuntu's walkthrough?
[09:33] <dad> multimedia system selector is a good start
[09:33] <wizard> where can i find that?
[09:34] <CVirus> DaSkreech: sounds like a good idea ... I just dont have a machine with Kubuntu + nvidia
[09:34] <dad> its in preferences but you might need to enable it via "alacarte menu editor"
[09:34] <dad> im using nvidia mx4000 on kubunto desktop with beryl etc etc etc
[09:34] <laervian> hi everyone
[09:35] <wizard> lol i certainly don't see it
[09:35] <laervian> does anyone know how to add startup applications in kubuntu?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> hi dad
[09:35] <wizard> you guys gotta kinda dumb down some stuff for me im from suse where everything was simply YaST2
[09:36] <wizard> dad: what is alacarte menu editor"? and is there a way i can launch thisp rogram from the terminal?
[09:36] <dad> open alacarte menu editor and go to sound and video OR mabey prefs and click on the choice and a further menu comes up...something like that
[09:36] <wizard> where is alcarte?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> wizard: Right click on the K menu
[09:37] <DaSkreech> -> menu editor
[09:37] <CVirus> laervian: ~/.kde/Autostart
[09:37] <dad> alacarte menu editor is an app installed on ubunto by default for editing your menus
[09:37] <CVirus> laervian: right click ---> create new ---> link to application
[09:37] <CVirus> dad: this #Kubuntu
[09:38] <wizard> mp3 support is kicking my butt
[09:38] <laervian>  CVirus: oh is that it? Thank you!
[09:38] <CVirus> laervian: no problem
[09:38] <laervian> wy wizard?
[09:38] <CVirus> wizard: what is your problem ?
[09:38] <laervian> amarok works great
[09:38] <laervian> with mp3s I mean :)
[09:38] <dad> If you have trouble finding some apps you`ve installed THATS where to start to see if it needs enabled....next i install the debian menu which shows everything bar the kitchen sink
[09:38] <wizard> the ubuntu guide
[09:38] <zblach> so, um, when can we expect a full release? beta seems pretty stable
[09:38] <zblach> :D
[09:38] <wizard> what package do i need to install to enable xine mp3
[09:39] <wizard> no ! links please, someone just tell me what to install
[09:39] <zblach> gstreamer0.8-good
[09:39] <CVirus> wizard: no one is gonna spoon feed you
[09:39] <zblach> oops
[09:39] <wizard> i like xine better than gstreamer though.
[09:39] <jhutchins_wk> Where do you change the keyboard map/rules file?
[09:39] <CVirus> wizard: by the way .. I already gave you the name of the package
[09:39] <DaSkreech> wizard: libxine-extracodecs
[09:39] <wizard> i did that
[09:39] <wizard> gives an error
[09:39] <zblach> well, read the error
[09:39] <zblach> and parse it
[09:40] <T3hWiz0rd> okay this i wizard on the kubuntu box... heres the error it gives me
[09:40] <DaSkreech> wizard: What error?
[09:40] <T3hWiz0rd> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:40] <T3hWiz0rd> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:40] <T3hWiz0rd> is only available from another source
[09:40] <T3hWiz0rd> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[09:40] <dad> ARHHHHH....just tippled...excuse the error....im using kubunto desktop on ubunto....new to pc`s full stop
[09:40] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: Enable multiverse
[09:40] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: i thought i had
[09:41] <T3hWiz0rd> the multiverse is enabled in sources.lst
[09:41] <DaSkreech> You are using the command line or adept?
[09:42] <T3hWiz0rd> cli
[09:42] <dad> SO is there the best place to come when i break it all and the forums have had enough of me
[09:42] <dad> is THIS even
[09:42] <DaSkreech> ok sudo apt-get updatea && sudo apt-get isntall libxine-extracodecs
[09:42] <DaSkreech> doh
[09:42] <DaSkreech> ok sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get isntall libxine-extracodecs
[09:42] <dad> get automatix.......put yer feet up
[09:42] <DaSkreech> dad: Yes
[09:42] <DaSkreech> Automatix es evil
[09:43] <dad> good stuff........
[09:43] <danny500> how do I set up Thunderbird mail program to use my hotmail account?
[09:43] <T3hWiz0rd> same error DaSkreech
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Then you don't have multiverse enabled
[09:43] <dad> When you`ve only been on a pc a few months automatix rocks
[09:44] <DaSkreech> dad: Ahhh No then is when you need to learn!!
[09:44] <dad> im just lazy
[09:44] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: can you check tow things for me?
[09:44] <DaSkreech> two
[09:44] <danny500> anybody?
[09:44] <DaSkreech> dad: Much better you say that :)
[09:44] <danny500> v3ctor, you here?
[09:45] <DaSkreech> danny500: Far as I know Microsoft stopped offering that
[09:45] <danny500> offering what?
[09:45] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: whats that
[09:45] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: im ready
[09:45] <tof> hallo
[09:45] <dad> my wobbly windows and multi OS`s all work so im not doing tooo bad after only sitting down at an xp to play pacman in march
[09:45] <DaSkreech> access outside of outlook
[09:45] <DaSkreech> dad: Excellent
[09:45] <danny500> really, that sucks
[09:46] <danny500> but how would I set it up anyway;'s?
[09:46] <danny500> if they did
[09:46] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: ok open /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the line that has multiverse on it here
[09:46] <tof> could someone help me about a message on kopete (on kubuntu) ?
[09:46] <dad> suprised you aint heard "MA SCREECHING".....lol
[09:46] <DaSkreech> Make it a pop account But they stopped ofering that unless you pay them money
[09:46] <danny500> just ask the question
[09:46] <DaSkreech> !ask
[09:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:47] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[09:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:47] <danny500> ok and what do i put for the incoming server address?
[09:47] <tof> kopete complains there is no samba server on localhost. this did not happen on previous fedora. how can i stop / unconfigure, or at least, why use samba for kopete ?
[09:47] <danny500> www.msn.com?
[09:47] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:47] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: That's the problem :)
[09:48] <T3hWiz0rd> whats wrong? lol
[09:48] <DaSkreech> find one withou the dapper-backports
[09:48] <dhq> tof what the problem
[09:48] <dad> i got fed up installing xp from a dusty old i386 cd and a floppy disk so went looking to see what the odd 10% used....and here thay all are
[09:48] <DaSkreech>  You should have one like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[09:48] <danny500> install samba then
[09:48] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: can i copy and paste that one?
[09:48] <DaSkreech> dad: Hows it feel being odd?
[09:48] <danny500> yes
[09:48] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: It should be in the file already
[09:48] <DaSkreech> With a # at the start
[09:48] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: its not
[09:49] <tof> well, kopete stops every minute to complain. and why install samba server to chat on jabber ??
[09:49] <DaSkreech> Then you can use that one
[09:49] <DaSkreech> tof: What does it say?
[09:49] <danny500> so it will stop whining thats why
[09:49] <danny500> so install samba and prob solved
[09:49] <tof> it says "winpopu : connection to localhost failed. is your samba server running ?"
[09:50] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: getting the same error even after adding the one you gave me
[09:50] <DaSkreech> tof: How did you configure kopete?
[09:50] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:50] <T3hWiz0rd> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:50] <tof> danny500 :install samba to use jabber ... sounds like a microsoft solution ... understanding would be great
[09:50] <T3hWiz0rd> is only available from another source
[09:50] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/soureces.list file?
[09:50] <T3hWiz0rd> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[09:50] <dad> my missus is starting to get worried ..all the talk about "gimps" and B.U.M`s is getting her suspicious..But other than that Ubunto and its foks is great stuff
[09:50] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: yeah sure
[09:50] <T3hWiz0rd> !paste
[09:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:50] <danny500> lol if it works then it works
[09:50] <tof> DaSkreech: i just added a few accounts
[09:50] <DaSkreech> dad: wait till you start raving about kate!!
[09:50] <intelikey> aspell error:   Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".
[09:51] <trappist> T3hWiz0rd: you need to enable the multiverse repository
[09:51] <danny500> !windows
[09:51] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:51] <trappist> !multiverse > T3hWiz0rd
[09:51] <danny500> lol
[09:51] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: as soon as i install firefox lol
[09:51] <danny500> thats how you do that
[09:51] <dad> DONT........Thats an ex`s name!!
[09:51] <danny500> 1thunderbird setup
[09:51] <danny500> !thunderbird setup
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thunderbird setup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <DaSkreech> !thunderbird
[09:51] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[09:51] <felixjet> !bill gates
[09:51] <danny500> !thunderbird
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bill gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <felixjet> xd
[09:52] <DaSkreech> !fishing
[09:52] <danny500> lol
[09:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[09:52] <danny500> !skating
[09:52] <DaSkreech> YOu can play with the bots in private
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <danny500> why not here?
[09:52] <DaSkreech> danny500: try /msg bot skating
[09:52] <danny500> !why not here?
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why not here? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26663/
[09:52] <felixjet> because u will get kicked
[09:52] <DaSkreech> danny500: cause I can't see people asking for help which is waht here is for
[09:52] <felixjet> XD
[09:52] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: paste for you :-)
[09:52] <trappist> danny500: please to be cutting it out.
[09:53] <danny500> !msg bot skating
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msg bot skating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <danny500> didn't work
[09:53] <felixjet> use / not !
[09:53] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: i also need to know how to change my sound input device
[09:53] <danny500> use what?
[09:53] <felixjet>  /msg ubotu <word>
[09:53] <tof> bye :)
[09:53] <DaSkreech> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe should have a multiverse at the end
[09:53] <danny500> o ok
[09:53] <DaSkreech> !sound
[09:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:53] <danny500> !steve jobs
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about steve jobs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <danny500> oh well
[09:54] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: take out the universe line?
[09:54] <intelikey> aspell error:   Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".     any somebody knows nothing about it ?
[09:54] <DaSkreech> danny500: stop doing that
[09:54] <danny500> !lol
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: No
[09:54] <danny500> ok
[09:54] <DaSkreech> danny500: You can play with the bot just do it in private
[09:54] <danny500> see that, bots don't know how to laugh
[09:54] <danny500> lol
[09:54] <danny500> ok
[09:54] <danny500> how do I do that?
[09:55] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: i just need to know where in the system i change my hardware selection
[09:55] <DaSkreech> type /msg bot hello
[09:55] <danny500> msg bot hello
[09:55] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: either kcontrol or System settings
[09:55] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: its defaulting to my onboard sound
[09:55] <danny500> nothing happened
[09:55] <DaSkreech> danny500: with the / before msg
[09:55] <danny500> o ok
[09:55] <T3hWiz0rd> i am in system settings and that brings up arts. My card doesn't need arts
[09:56] <intelikey> danny500 don't act dumber than you are.
[09:56] <danny500> sorry can't help it
[09:56] <felixjet> XD
[09:56] <danny500> the new microsoft keyboard came out eh
[09:56] <dhq> is edgy safe
[09:56] <dhq> now
[09:56] <felixjet> trappist:
[09:57] <trappist> dhq: not officially
[09:57] <felixjet> .!kick danny500
[09:57] <felixjet> xD
[09:57] <danny500> It only has three key's, ctrl alt delet
[09:57] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: one problem at a time
[09:57] <DaSkreech> added multiverse saved and did an update?
[09:57] <trappist> danny500: maybe you'd be happier in #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:57] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: the libxine stuff installed now... now is to make the sound work
[09:57] <DaSkreech> dhq: Nope :)
[09:57] <danny500> thanks
[09:57] <danny500> but this room doesn't have a topic anyways
[09:58] <DaSkreech> !topic
[09:58] <danny500> never mind
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <DaSkreech> hmm
[09:58] <felixjet>  /topic #kubuntu
[09:58] <DaSkreech> Oh right :)
[09:58] <felixjet> ^
[09:58] <felixjet> ^^
[09:58] <danny500> is there a thunder bird topic?
[09:58] <dad> topics.........full of nuts
[09:58] <DaSkreech> dad: That would be the tropics
[09:58] <danny500> lol
[09:59] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: now how to i set alsa to play on my sb
[09:59] <dad> NO...TOPICS:-)...you need to live in uk to understand the joke...sorry
[09:59] <DaSkreech> danny500: http://www.digg.com/software/Check_Hotmail_and_Yahoo_e-mail_in_Thunderbird_
[09:59] <danny500> theres only one nut here and thats me lol
[09:59] <danny500> ok thankx
[09:59] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: You get no sounds at all?
[09:59] <T3hWiz0rd> nope, its defaulting to my onboard
[10:00] <dad> I MUST disagree.....you`se aint had a load of mE yet
[10:00] <|xchat|> !vb
[10:00] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: im trying to disable that device lol
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <felixjet> anyone here knows how to put the aMsn icon in the bar (tray icon?). well, near the clock
[10:01] <felixjet> its bugged, the program is there but not the icon, its just a blank zone
[10:01] <danny500> right click on the toolbar and go to add to panel
[10:01] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: Ahh  Umm gimmie a moment
[10:02] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: Have you looked under sound in System Settings?
[10:03] <danny500> !samba
[10:03] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:03] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: yes, thats to turn arts on though... I really don't wish to use arts if I can avoid it.
[10:03] <dad> somebody getting lost????
[10:04] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: I meant to switch your audio device to somethign new
[10:04] <danny500> ???
[10:04] <jhutchins_wk> I'm not getting any sound from this stream: http://129.237.213.240/asxgen/wmtencoder/kpr2.wma.asx
[10:04] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: how? in the system preffs menu it only goes to arts
[10:04] <jhutchins_wk> It has worked before though.
[10:04] <jhutchins_wk> Any idea what the problem might be?
[10:04] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: Where are you talking about?
[10:04] <dhq> trappist: but it is safe to upgrade rite
[10:05] <chris___> hi, how can i create a snapshot?
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Print screen
[10:05] <trappist> dhq: not officially.  it went pretty well for me.
[10:05] <chris___> ah thx
[10:06] <DaSkreech> dhq: Don't do it on a production machine. Other than that go right ahead
[10:06] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: i am trying to change the default output device is all
[10:07] <dhq> i am on a centrino laptop
[10:07] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: Yes and you said in the system prefs menu. Where is that?
[10:07] <DaSkreech> dhq: Good for you!
[10:07] <felixjet> !tar
[10:07] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:07] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: system settings
[10:07] <felixjet> how to tar?
[10:08] <felixjet> tar -XXX ?
[10:08] <dhq> DaSkreech: so it will work properly i had sound driver problems in drapper will it be solved in edgy
[10:08] <felixjet> to untar i mean
[10:08] <DaSkreech> tar xzf file.tar dir/to/tar
[10:08] <DaSkreech> tar czf filetountar.tgz
[10:08] <dad> System settings>sound & multimedia>hardware for the sound chap
[10:08] <felixjet> why x ?
[10:08] <flaccid> !find smart
[10:08] <ubotu> Found: libgdome2-cpp-smart-dev, libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a, smartdimmer, smartmontools, gsmartcard (and 12 others)
[10:08] <felixjet> ah
[10:09] <DaSkreech> dhq: maybe :)
[10:09] <dhq> pl thanx
[10:09] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: and this is under hardware?
[10:09] <dhq> ok thanx
[10:09] <flaccid> !find smart > flaccid
[10:09] <T3hWiz0rd> no, theres nothing about sound under hardware
[10:09] <DaSkreech> No System settings -> Sounds and Multimedia -> Sound system - > hardware
[10:10] <flaccid> kde sound system is not required :)
[10:10] <dad> select the audio device function
[10:10] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: thats there but thats arts man, i don't wanna use arts
[10:10] <felixjet> lmao my console is showin tons of chars !
[10:11] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: All it sasys is arts?
[10:11] <felixjet> DaSkreech: u sure is czf?
[10:11] <DaSkreech> says
[10:11] <DaSkreech> felixjet: x to extract and c to create
[10:11] <felixjet> this is a .tar.gz
[10:11] <T3hWiz0rd> hmmm
[10:11] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: i wish it had a sound device configuration like YaST2
[10:12] <DaSkreech> Maybe it will one day :)
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> i'll go disable it in bios
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> then ti will be forced to use that device
[10:12] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: But under Select Audio device all it says is arts?
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> desti: when i go to that
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> hold on
[10:12] <felixjet> how to kill a shell console?
[10:12] <felixjet> whats the process name?
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> h ave it set to ALSA
[10:13] <T3hWiz0rd> but it doesn't ask for a hardware device.
[10:13] <mato> hi people! Can anone help me with Kdevelop?
[10:14] <flaccid> !ask > mato
[10:14] <DaSkreech> felixjet: type exit
[10:14] <mato> sorry I am first time on IRC...
[10:14] <dad> snap
[10:14] <felixjet> yay but it crashed
[10:14] <felixjet> is showing me tons of chars
[10:15] <DaSkreech> Is this Konsole?
[10:15] <flaccid> how can i get ubotu to show all the results of a !find
[10:15] <felixjet> DaSkreech:
[10:15] <felixjet> no
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: i'll just disable it in bios
[10:15] <DaSkreech> felixjet: Well then kill hte pid
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> brb
[10:15] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: Ok :0
[10:16] <mato> ubotu is a man?
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a man? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <felixjet> >.< i typed tar -z thats why crashed
[10:18] <Dangerous> Q? Kubuntu boots and then hangs starting X ATI Radon 7600
[10:18] <felixjet> !kubuntu.
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <felixjet> 22:18]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu. - <<<
[10:18] <felixjet> XD
[10:18] <dustin> dangerous: livecd or install?
[10:18] <DaSkreech> Did it owrk before?
[10:18] <Dangerous> live
[10:19] <Dangerous> no never
[10:19] <dustin> when you are at the livcd menu
[10:19] <DaSkreech> ok
[10:19] <dustin> hit f6 and delete the part about quiet splash
[10:19] <KDEfanboy> wow ubotu, tsk tsk
[10:19] <dustin> itll boot up, try to hit X, crash back to console
[10:19] <dustin> sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:19] <dustin> and change the driver ati to vesa
[10:19] <dad> Any of you guys know how to set the zoom for the cube in beryl settings manager so it goes into the distance so to speak???I can seem to get my head round the different settings
[10:19] <DaSkreech> !ubuntu
[10:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:19] <dustin> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:19] <dustin> and you should be good to go
[10:19] <Dangerous> ok thanks
[10:19] <dustin> that is a stopgap solution ^ once you install you can configure the fglrx driver
[10:19] <dustin> gl
[10:19] <DaSkreech> dad: Umm I think it's distance either in the cube setting or in the rotate settings
[10:20] <Dangerous> when it hangs the entire systems hangs
[10:20] <Dangerous> cant escape
[10:20] <dustin> yep i know whatcha mean =) i have the same deal
[10:20] <dustin> (i think)
[10:20] <Dangerous> it's a bad deal
[10:20] <dustin> indeed
[10:21] <Dangerous> have you tried playing with the frame buffers
[10:21] <dustin> 1 sec
[10:21] <franco> ciao
[10:21] <DaSkreech> LIke the LiveCD kernel panics0.1 seconds in to the boot on two of my machines
[10:22] <intelikey> aspell error:   Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".      anyone can advise ?
[10:22] <wizard> kubuntu doesn't reboot properly for me
[10:22] <dustin> do you mean you tried restarting it and taking out the quiet splash part and it still is locking up?
[10:22] <wizard> when i hit reboot it turns my monitor off and idles...
[10:22] <wizard> and thats ALL it does
[10:22] <Dangerous> nope not yet
[10:22] <wizard> i have to hard reboot
[10:22] <wizard> just to let you guys know
[10:22] <dustin> im not sure why its broken, but once you set it to vesa you can get it all installed, then install fglrx afterwards
[10:23] <dustin> thats what ive done, just today actually, its very smooth
[10:23] <Dangerous> will try tonight
[10:23] <dustin> good luck
[10:23] <wizard> anyone got any answers as to why kubuntu doesn't reboot? just seems to go idle?
[10:23] <intelikey> wizard there is some bios taht require a slightly different reset code.   google   or a search in the kernel docs can explain
[10:23] <wizard> all other linux distros reboot fine
[10:24] <intelikey> wizard i'm telling you. it's a kernel thing.
[10:24] <wizard> intelikey: okay, i just don't get how suse is usnig the same kernel and it reboots fine
[10:24] <intelikey> cause suse built the kernel with different op sig  than ubuntu did.
[10:25] <DaSkreech> wizard: I doubt it's the same kernel :)
[10:25] <intelikey> DaSkreech i think he meant same kernel version.
[10:25] <wizard> DaSkreech: yeah
[10:25] <wizard> i'll deal with that later...
[10:25] <wizard> i gotta run to work
[10:25] <wizard> DaSkreech: i had to disable every other device before it would go to that... which makes me mad
[10:26] <intelikey> but it's all in the kernel config
[10:26] <wizard> but i'll deal with that later, theres gotta be a manual way to delete those devices
[10:27] <felixjet> a installation is asking me one thing that i dunno
[10:27] <DaSkreech> wizard: I'll check for it
[10:27] <felixjet> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[10:27] <felixjet> kernel?
[10:27] <felixjet> what directory must i enter'
[10:27] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Is there a KDE way to specify a specific device?
[10:27] <dude> how do u make a shortcut to you desktop
[10:27] <intelikey> wizard but *buntu kernels have the SysRQ hot keys enabled   you can   SysRQ+alt+b    one should SysRQ+alt+u first to make sure that / is ro  for instance.
[10:27] <DaSkreech> felixjet: did you install kernel-headers?
[10:27] <intelikey> DaSkreech device ?
[10:28] <DaSkreech> dude: hi
[10:28] <felixjet> apt-get install kernel-headers?
[10:28] <felixjet> xD
[10:28] <DaSkreech> intelikey: If you have three sound cards in your machine and you want to use one as your main sound device
[10:28] <DaSkreech> felixjet: yup and the installer should be good after that
[10:28] <dude> Daskreech: hello
[10:28] <DaSkreech> dude: Add a launcher
[10:28] <dude> Daskreech: my pc is wierd
[10:28] <intelikey> DaSkreech idk  prolly.    look in alsamixer settings   or in the arts config
[10:28] <archangel_> shalom folks
[10:29] <dude> Daskreech: everthing is running fine
[10:29] <DaSkreech> archangel_: Shalom
[10:29] <dude> including 3Ddesktop
[10:29] <dude> heheheh
[10:29] <DaSkreech> dude: Yeah! Who does your PC think it is!
[10:29] <DaSkreech>  Working with no problems! The nerve!
[10:29] <intelikey> archangel_ Aleichem
[10:29] <dude> heheheh
[10:29] <dude> ya
[10:29] <dude> thanks daskreech
[10:30] <archangel_> I have a warning sign that popped up on my desktop over my clock and it wont go away
[10:30] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Where now?
[10:30] <DaSkreech> archangel_: What made the sign?
[10:30] <archangel_> about a router/firewall
[10:30] <intelikey> DaSkreech i don't have kde installed..... ah, mind asking someone that does ?
[10:31] <marteaudor> anybody use trendware TEW-424UB usb wireless?
[10:31] <DaSkreech> Who here uses KDE? :)
[10:31] <archangel_> no Idea just popped up and I click on hide and it wont go away
[10:31] <felixjet> DaSkreech: :( still no directory
[10:31] <felixjet> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[10:31] <felixjet> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[10:31] <felixjet> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[10:31] <dad> moi...Kubunto pc and kde\gnome pc with wobbly windows
[10:32] <intelikey> archangel_ what is the message ?
[10:33] <archangel_> DaSkreech: "if you have a router /firewall, please check that you have port 65468 UDP open. Decenteralised tracking requires this."
[10:33] <Tal> y0
[10:33] <intelikey> felixjet if you have kernel source installed there should be a version number /usr/src/linux$(uname -r)/      for example
[10:33] <felixjet> yay
[10:33] <Tal> anyone point me to a manual on how to instal a wireless router :)
[10:33] <felixjet> intelikey:  fixed already ty
[10:33] <Tal> ive had a little google, but am having problems.
[10:34] <felixjet> i should read google before >.<
[10:34] <DHGE> !wlan
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <Tal> :(
[10:34] <intelikey> i started to read google one time.  but i gave up on page 4097382
[10:35] <DaSkreech> archangel_: Running ktorrent?
[10:35] <archangel_> not sure. its covering my system tray
[10:35] <archangel_> lol
[10:35] <dad> if patience is a virtue....be a virtuoso......a google fan
[10:35] <archangel_> I DID have is open last night but I thought I closed it out
[10:35] <flaccid> impatience is a gift
[10:36] <archangel_> ALT+TAB doesnt bring it up
[10:36] <Tal> ktorrent ftw
[10:36] <flaccid> has anyone elses konsole font gone darker after upgrading to kde 3.5.5
[10:36] <dad> its a whole bloody xmas in this mad house with my 5 kids
[10:37] <archangel_> dad: ooohh, my prayers are with you
[10:38] <dad> He he...it`s the scottish missus thats the REAL trouble
[10:38] <DaSkreech> dad: so you DID have your name legally changed to your nick :)
[10:38] <intelikey> aspell error:   Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".     anyone ?
[10:38] <archangel_> lol
[10:38] <Tal> mm think i found something might bbs!
[10:39] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Maybe you don't have english in US?
[10:39] <intelikey> DaSkreech well i know that.  but what about the computer error ?
[10:39] <intelikey> :)
[10:39] <dad> no thats just my logon...my real name is XPOD........because my XP O.D`d after 4 months of me breaking it and so i discovered ubunto
[10:40] <DaSkreech> What threw this?
[10:40] <archangel_> lol
[10:40] <intelikey> echo word | aspell -a
[10:40] <DaSkreech> dad: Welcome to many more breaks :)
[10:40] <sexie> hey guys
[10:41] <intelikey> echo word | aspell -a  >>>Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".
[10:41] <sexie> I installed ubuntu last night and in windows it stills shows the old information
[10:41] <LjL> flaccid: well, no reason to include it unless you also include a decent accessible graphical interface for it... i suppose
[10:41] <DaSkreech> intelikey: check if you have that installed?
[10:41] <intelikey> have what installed ?
[10:41] <intelikey> echo ?
[10:42] <DaSkreech> sexie: You expected Windows to update?
[10:42] <intelikey> lol
[10:42] <DaSkreech> echo is a shell builtin
[10:42] <DaSkreech> !away
[10:42] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[10:42] <intelikey> actually it's an app   /bin/echo
[10:42] <DaSkreech> really?
[10:42] <flaccid> LjL: i guess so
[10:42] <DaSkreech> type echo
[10:42] <DaSkreech> then send me money :)
[10:42] <LjL> intelikey: actually it *is* a shell builtin in bash
[10:42] <sexie> DaSkreech; the [partition in which I installed ubuntu is stil shown under windows and the files that were there earl;ier are still therer.
[10:43] <dad> 2 months so far,5 re-installs,countless "xorg.conf`s" and i still dont know my alsa from my oss....but am loving every minute of it..Just pissed i never found it sooner
[10:43] <intelikey> ls -l /bin/echo
[10:43] <intelikey> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15K May  5 12:50 /bin/echo
[10:43] <intelikey> duh
[10:43] <LjL> intelikey: yeah, that doesn't mean it's not a builtin though
[10:43] <DaSkreech> intelikey: type echo
[10:43] <DaSkreech> That's the actual answer
[10:43] <LjL> intelikey: it just means that, *if* you use a shell that doesn't have it as a builtin, you *also* have an actual command in /bin
[10:43] <flaccid> LjL: is there a frontend anywhere for smart?
[10:43] <intelikey> DaSkreech typing echo does nothing but move you down one line
[10:44] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Nooo
[10:44] <LjL> flaccid: not that i know of unfortunately
[10:44] <DaSkreech> type in <type echo>
[10:44] <flaccid> echo "foo"
[10:44] <DaSkreech> To tell you what type of a command echo is
[10:44] <intelikey> /bin/echo is /bin/echo
[10:45] <max_> does anyone know of a way to unpac 7z's besides p7zip, or can anyone help me get p7zip working
[10:45] <DaSkreech> sexie: I think that maybe it's a different partition?
[10:45] <dad> as long as you dont want your shopping carried
[10:45] <DaSkreech> intelikey: don't get smart :)
[10:45] <flaccid> max_: i think you should try somewhere else.
[10:45] <max_> i have looked all over the net
[10:45] <archangel_> rebooted...  fixed problem
[10:45] <sexie> no dear.
[10:45] <intelikey> DaSkreech hmmmmm   so see if what is installed ?
[10:45] <flaccid> max_: maybe you have a corrupt archive
[10:46] <sexie> do you think I'm a noob?
[10:46] <max_> ive Dled multiple archives
[10:46] <DaSkreech> an dictionary pack for aspell
[10:46] <DaSkreech> sexie: No But if you can access the files then they are there which means that ubuntu didn't format the drive which I find unlikely
[10:46] <dad> noobs rule
[10:46] <DaSkreech> !noob
[10:46] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[10:47] <LjL> sexie: i just can't think of a plausible reason why the very same partition you have ubuntu installed on could be shown in Windows as a valid FAT/NTFS partition
[10:47] <DaSkreech> Seems the only thing ubotu doesn't know is Kubuntu :)
[10:47] <DaSkreech> LjL: With orking files
[10:47] <DaSkreech> working
[10:47] <max_> flaccid: do you know any other programs that upack them?
[10:47] <Al> Hello. I'm sure you get this a lot but I can't install cedega due to dependency on xlibs. Is this an old cedega I've been given?
[10:47] <flaccid> max_: i answered that yesterday
[10:48] <LjL> Al: yes, it's for breezy, and you have dapper.
[10:48] <sexie> it still shows the same partiion as FAT32
[10:48] <max_> Ark dosnt do it
[10:48] <Al> OK cool thanks
[10:48] <LjL> !cedega > al
[10:48] <sexie> it installed in 15-20 mins though
[10:48] <intelikey> DaSkreech next time i over look something so obvious just point at echo.......
[10:48] <flaccid> max_: did you try ##linux?
[10:48] <DaSkreech> sexie: Sounds about right
[10:48] <intelikey> :)
[10:48] <max_> in a terminal?
[10:48] <DaSkreech>  sexie: And you logged into Linux?
[10:48] <flaccid> max_: no irc
[10:48] <max_> no
[10:48] <max_> ##linux
[10:48] <Al> ta ljl I'll read up and stuff
[10:49] <flaccid> i told you that yesterday as well
[10:49] <sexie> DaSkreech; yep it showed the copying too.
[10:49] <flaccid> max_: /join ##linux
[10:49] <max_> [15:49]  [Error]  ##linux: Unknown command.
[10:49] <intelikey> i expected aspell to depend on an aspell-<lang> package  it obviously doesn't.
[10:49] <bluch> !serverlist
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serverlist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <_abbenormal> whats the bets release to use with an amd64 cpu breezy dapper or edty
[10:49] <_abbenormal> best
[10:49] <sexie> DaSkreech; no; am on windows currently. anyways it gives some X-server error and throws me on the shell
[10:50] <LjL> _abbenormal: dapper is the release to use on any system.
[10:50] <LjL> _abbenormal: breezy is the older version, and edgy isn't out yet.
[10:50] <DaSkreech> sexie: Wouldn't happen to know the X error?
[10:50] <_abbenormal> ok so its more towards the 64 bit setup
[10:50] <intelikey> "never assume malous where stupidity would explain it."
[10:50] <DaSkreech> malice
[10:50] <intelikey> iuuui
[10:51] <dad> Assumption is the mother of all F**k ups
[10:51] <DaSkreech> that aspell -a thing is useful
[10:51] <sexie> DaSkreech; Have to reboot to give the error.
[10:51] <intelikey> DaSkreech now you know why i need aspell
[10:51] <flaccid> assume makes an ass out of me and u
[10:51] <_abbenormal> so what your saying is use dapper 6.06
[10:51] <DaSkreech> sexie: hold on
[10:51] <dad> spot on
[10:51] <flaccid> or u and me
[10:51] <coreymon77> what does aspell mean
[10:51] <LjL> _abbenormal: uh... yes.
[10:51] <DaSkreech> you have a login for Linux already right?
[10:51] <coreymon77> i mean
[10:51] <_abbenormal> hum
[10:51] <coreymon77> what does it do
[10:51] <intelikey> ass-u-me
[10:51] <flaccid> well dappper 6.06.1
[10:51] <LjL> _abbenormal: as i said, edgy isn't out yet, so i don't see why you should use it. and breezy is, well, old
[10:51] <sexie> yep. on the shell.
[10:52] <_abbenormal> edty isnt that 6.10
[10:52] <DaSkreech> sexie: ok when you login run irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[10:52] <LjL> _abbenormal: edgy is 6.10
[10:52] <DaSkreech> then when it logs in /nick sexie
[10:52] <coreymon77> what does aspell do?
[10:52] <DaSkreech> then /join #kubuntu
[10:52] <DaSkreech> sexie: and we can help you from there :)
[10:52] <flaccid> edgy is for testers/experimenters
[10:52] <_abbenormal> ok and its not out yet
[10:52] <flaccid> until its released
[10:52] <LjL> _abbenormal: correct, it is not
[10:52] <flaccid> so wait or use dapper
[10:52] <sexie> DaSkreech; actually my internet works after a client runs. no direct connection.
[10:53] <dhq> i have an avi file and i want to make it a vcd format to play on my dvd player
[10:53] <_abbenormal> well then ill stay with sid its working fine so far
[10:53] <coreymon77> what does aspell do
[10:53] <DaSkreech> sexie: So no net for you ?
[10:53] <_abbenormal> thanks LjL
[10:53] <coreymon77> what is the command aspell -a
[10:53] <intelikey> actually bash has a ton of built-in krap that there is already an app on the system...  i don't know why they "bloated" bash like that.
[10:53] <LjL> _abbenormal: well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
[10:53] <sexie> DaSkreech; from the linux for the timebeing.
[10:53] <intelikey> coreymon77 you pipe things through that.
[10:53] <coreymon77> ???
[10:53] <DaSkreech> !info aspell > coreymon77
[10:53] <ubotu> aspell: GNU Aspell spell-checker. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60.4-2 (dapper), package size 126 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[10:53] <_abbenormal> true but you dont learn doing that
[10:53] <DaSkreech> dumb bot
[10:53] <coreymon77> is it like a text censor?
[10:54] <intelikey> echo "my words to check " | aspell -a
[10:54] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Do you use the command line?
[10:54] <CVirus> !katoob
[10:54] <ubotu> katoob: A Gtk2 light weight multilingual BiDi aware text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8-1build1 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 572 kB
[10:54] <intelikey> echo "my werds to chcek " | aspell -a
[10:54] <coreymon77> yup
[10:54] <sexie> the stupid ISP has stopped developing client for linux too.
[10:54] <dhq> !isp
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <miro_> is multiuniverse version of mplayer support truetype fonts ?
[10:55] <flaccid> !mythtv > flaccid
[10:55] <miro_> a have some strange message: " ... doesn't look like a font description, ignoring."
[10:55] <miro_> ?
[10:55] <CVirus> !mythtv
[10:55] <theresa> hey everyone!
[10:55] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[10:55] <DaSkreech> sexie: give us the address and we'll flood them with letters :)
[10:56] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: try man aspell
[10:56] <archangel_> hey, ubuntu cant see my floppy?
[10:56] <archangel_> whats up with that?
[10:57] <sexie> DaSkreech; lol. I'll give you. by the way its sify.com and the subsite is braodband.sify.com
[10:57] <jhutchins_wk> I can't see your floppy either.
[10:57] <_abbenormal> sudo mnt floppy
[10:57] <sexie> broadband*
[10:57] <archangel_> oh ok
[10:58] <archangel_> command not found
[10:58] <DaSkreech> How does Dbus Work?
[10:58] <DaSkreech>  can you have a dbus command line app?
[10:58] <LjL> archangel_: that's because the command "mnt" doesn't exist afaik. try "sudo mount /media/floppy"
[10:58] <chris___> i get the message "too many symbolic links", when i want to link the java plugin to firefox
[10:58] <chris___> what can i do
[10:59] <archangel_> cant find media
[10:59] <archangel_> mount: can't find /media/floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:59] <DaSkreech> archangel_: are you sure you are on Kubuntu?
[10:59] <DaSkreech> Ah ok :)
[11:00] <LjL> archangel_: try "sudo mount /media/floppy0" then
[11:00] <archangel_> lol yeah
[11:00] <archangel_> ok
[11:00] <archangel_> will that create a icon for me?
[11:00] <LjL> if you're lucky
[11:00] <archangel_> or does that just enable?
[11:01] <flaccid> is there a gui for apache ?
[11:01] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/ -o umask=0
[11:04] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: Hi
[11:04] <draik> How do I change the IP address to my desktop? (router IP)
[11:04] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: hey man
[11:05] <DaSkreech> draik: eh?
[11:05] <flaccid> draik: system settings | networking from kmenu
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Kai-: Bloody stop it!
[11:05] <draik> DaSkreech, I want to change my IP address from x.x.x.102 to x.x.x.101
[11:05] <DaSkreech> draik: you want a GUI way or a command line way?
[11:05] <draik> CLI!!!!!!!!
[11:05] <DaSkreech> draik: I assume you are not on DHCP?
[11:05] <T3hWiz0rd> T3hWiz0rd: i will say this... no matter what distro you use, linux is so great at migration... simply preserve your home folder and your setting return to nearly exactly what they were before the migration.
[11:05] <flaccid> draik: /etc/network/interfaces
[11:06] <intelikey> ifconfig
[11:06] <draik> I have tried       sudo ifconfig x.x.x.101
[11:06] <T3hWiz0rd> wait why did i talk to myself
[11:06] <draik> but when I do that, I can't connect to the 'net anymore
[11:06] <hazard_> anyone have any experience with SiS video chipsets?
[11:06] <DaSkreech> it's sudo ifconfig eth<n> X.X.X.101 netmask 255.255.255.<n>
[11:06] <hazard_> My system locks up hard after a few minutes of running.
[11:07] <hazard_> (though the time varies)
[11:07] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: I assumed it was a habit of yours :)
[11:07] <draik> sorry, yes        sudo ifconfig eth0 x.x.x.101
[11:07] <hazard_> it seems to be getting progressively worse though
[11:07] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: I do love myself but now that much lol
[11:07] <draik> but I never placed the subnet mask
[11:07] <DaSkreech> draik: type route and see if you ahve a default gw
[11:07] <draik> DaSkreech, command?
[11:07] <T3hWiz0rd> DaSkreech: thank you for your help. The next step will be to figure out why my system hangs when told to reboot.
[11:07] <DaSkreech> if not then sudo route add default gw X.X.X.<n>
[11:08] <DaSkreech> draik: just route by itself should list
[11:08] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: Exactly :)
[11:08] <draik> ok
[11:08] <draik> what do you need from the list?
[11:08] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd kernel build time configuration....
[11:08] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: how do  Ichange it or configure it?
[11:09] <DaSkreech> Does it have at least three entries?
[11:09] <intelikey> build a new kernel
[11:09] <DaSkreech> draik ^^
[11:09] <draik> no, just 2
[11:09] <T3hWiz0rd> is amarok 1.4 available on here?
[11:09] <draik> !pastebin
[11:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:09] <T3hWiz0rd> I'd prefer 1.4 if possible.
[11:09] <DaSkreech> !amarok
[11:09] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[11:09] <draik> DaSkreech http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26675/
[11:10] <DaSkreech> draik: run the second command I gave
[11:10] <DaSkreech> sudo route add default gw X.X.X.<n>
[11:10] <T3hWiz0rd> sweet
[11:10] <T3hWiz0rd> I've missed apt-get a little
[11:10] <T3hWiz0rd> so much easier than yast for package management
[11:10] <hazard_> anyone have any experience with SiS video chipsets?
[11:11] <sexie> back; DaSkreech
[11:11] <draik> DaSkreech, ok, I ran that other command
[11:11] <DaSkreech> sexie: Welcome
[11:11] <DaSkreech> draik: Have net?
[11:11] <draik> I'm still online
[11:11] <draik> but my IP is still 102, not 101
[11:12] <T3hWiz0rd> is the mplayer-plugin installed by default on dapper? by chance?
[11:12] <sexie> It says "failed to start X-server (your graphics shel.. blah blah) and asks if I wanna see the output
[11:12] <DaSkreech> draik: You did the sudo ifconfig eth<n> X.X.X.101 netmask 255.255.255.<n> ?
[11:12] <intelikey> draik just out of habit i'll speek  is there already a 101 on your netblock ?
[11:12] <T3hWiz0rd> wait no i see its not
[11:12] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: how would I go about fixing that
[11:12] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: No It's a fully open source Distro
[11:13] <sexie> DaSkreech; on clicking "yes" it gives the version no. etc. x-wndows system version 6.8.2 etc
[11:13] <draik> intelikey, not there isn't. It's just my laptop 100 and my desktop 101... my sis is also on the network, but she's not online. She takes 102... usually
[11:13] <hazard_> Why do i always end up with all the hardware that has ALL the random problems?
[11:13] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd there is a whole page in the kernel docs about the reset signal and how some boxen need one sig and some another...
[11:13] <DaSkreech> sexie: Sorry yes to what?
[11:13] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: where are the kernel docs though intelikey?
[11:14] <sexie> DaSkreech; It says "failed to start X-server (your graphics shel.. blah blah) and asks if I wanna see the output
[11:14] <sexie> DaSkreech; on clicking "yes" it gives the version no. etc. x-wndows system version 6.8.2 etc
[11:14] <intelikey> http://kernel.org ?
[11:14] <intelikey> i meant the docs that are part of the kernel package T3hWiz0rd
[11:14] <T3hWiz0rd> so is aptitude still a work-in-progress?
[11:15] <intelikey> when you do a xconfig or menu-config you can access them with the help feture
[11:15] <intelikey> feature
[11:15] <DaSkreech> sexie: Lord this would be so much easier if you had net there :0(
[11:16] <sexie> yeah! I know.
[11:16] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: i don't see anything there about that
[11:16] <intelikey> it's like that (R) Ragu'   it's  in there.
[11:17] <hazard_> Can you kill Xwindows once it starts and fall back to the command line?
[11:17] <sexie> DaSkreech; anyways can anyone you tell me how to configure ip address in ubuntu. I'll try to find the client for linux
[11:17] <gnomefreak> KaiHanari: can you please stop changing your nick so often
[11:17] <DaSkreech> sexie: ifconfig should show you the ipaddress
[11:18] <DaSkreech> if not then sudo ifconfig eth0 <ipaddress> netmask 255.255.255.0 (if that is your netmask) should work
[11:18] <gnomefreak> Kai-Laptop: stop
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> hazard try Ctrl + alt + backspace (not sure if my memoery is correct)
[11:18] <ryanakca> yeah, ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:19] <hazard_> okie
[11:19] <hazard_> I'll try that next time I restart to see if the frozen screen is just Xwindows in a coma
[11:19] <hazard_> (though that wouldn't explain why the caps lock light does nothing also)
[11:20] <DaSkreech> sexie: You should also set your gateway
[11:20] <dad> personally i always use aptitude as it resolves the dependancies better than apt-get......http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[11:20] <sexie> DaSkreech; it sould be done from ifconfig i suppose
[11:21] <DaSkreech> sexie: Oh no type route
[11:21] <hazard_> I've got an old sony vaio desktop with a software controlled fan (when running windows), do I have any options for having it NOT run at full power under linux?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> if you only have two entries and noe say default gw then you have no gateway
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> dad: ohhh someone that knows about aptitude?
[11:22] <sexie> DaSkreech; hmm thanks
[11:22] <DaSkreech> you can add one with sudo route add default gw <ipaddress>
[11:22] <sorush20> I think i have a bug
[11:23] <sexie> DaSkreech; "route add default gw <ip>" ?? and ifconfig will allow changing ip? how?
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> dad: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade <-- do you use that for updates?
[11:23] <LjL> dist-upgrade possibly rather than upgrade
[11:24] <dad> I have sqeezed quite a bit in in my short time:-)......was still getting my DLL`s and my LOL`s mixed up as i left windows
[11:24] <jhutchins_wk> How do I disable gamin?
[11:24] <jhutchins_wk> It's using like 20% of my CPU.
[11:24] <DaSkreech> sudo ifconfig eth<n> X.X.X.<n> netmask 255.255.255.<n> ?
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: isn't dist-upgrade a bit of a sledge hammer?
[11:25] <DaSkreech> sexie: and a last resort is setting up DNS :)
[11:25] <dad> sorry....do you actually even need the second "sudo aptitude"??????
[11:25] <sexie> DaSkreech; can you PM me all the commands needed. setting up IP, DG and DNS ?
[11:25] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: it should just be smarter than upgrade in theory. then your mileage may vary... read the man page for the actual differences
[11:25] <LjL> dad: uh, yeah
[11:26] <jhutchins_wk> Please tell me how to kill gamin.
[11:26] <dad> sorry...was`nt sure...never used it.I just get updates if and when informed
[11:26] <TheGateKeeper> dad: you'd just use the 1st one?
[11:26] <freewill> i can't get smb to share any thing (when i right click -> share a folder I just get allot of uneditable content)
[11:27] <DaSkreech> sexie: do you know the parameters you need to get on the internet?
[11:27] <dad> yeah...plus i use it if im installing anything with aptitude...i do the update first
[11:27] <sexie> DaSkreech; the Ip addresses ? yep!
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> dad: ok thanx
[11:28] <wizard> i don't think its my kernel thats messing up dad
[11:28] <wizard> DaSkreech:
[11:28] <DaSkreech> sexie: and gateway etc?
[11:28] <wizard> when i tried to switch runlevels it locked up just like it did when i reboot
[11:28] <wizard> DaSkreech: leading me to beleive its the nvidia drivers that are actually causing it
[11:29] <hazard_> Is it normal for the blue 'Kubuntu' loading screen to look all pixely and hard to read?
[11:29] <sexie> DaSkreech; yep. I'm an MCSE actually.
[11:29] <DaSkreech> sexie: That don't mean a thing if yu have an idiotic ISP who won't give you info :)
[11:29] <sexie> DaSkreech; but wanna extend my knowledge into Open source
[11:29] <hazard_> what's the command to drop to terminal?
[11:30] <MHazem> !wengo
[11:30] <dad> Im still only doing single terminal(konsole) commands...aint started doubling them up yet...lol.....sorry but im having trouble keeping track of all this.When my kernal messed up i just went to synaptic and installed it again over itself
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wengo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <DaSkreech> sexie:  are you registered on here with nickserv?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> hazard_: Alt+Ctrl+F1
[11:30] <wizard> DaSkreech: the drivers are causing linux to hang up when you change runlevels or restart X
[11:30] <flaccid> why does debconf rarely work with its scripts
[11:30] <flaccid> Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) at -e line 5, <> line 1.
[11:30] <wizard> !nvidia
[11:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:31] <sexie> DaSkreech; LOL. they used to have it earlier but do't have it now. I hope to get a custom made client. afterall I'm not alone.
[11:31] <flaccid> its not even providing password
[11:31] <MHazem> !wengophone
[11:31] <ubotu> wengophone: SIP-based software telephone with video and chat features. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+svn4511-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3309 kB, installed size 7660 kB
[11:31] <sexie> DaSkreech; not currently.
[11:31] <DaSkreech> Ok so you can't respond to my messages :)
[11:32] <sexie> DaSkreech; I have a lag of appx 10 secs
[11:32] <wizard> DaSkreech: kubuntu wont boot now
[11:32] <wizard> uhg...
[11:32] <DaSkreech> wizard: What error?
[11:32] <wizard> none, it freezes on slacsh
[11:32] <felixjet> !uninstall
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <felixjet> :( how i do uninstall applications?
[11:33] <wizard> DaSkreech: watching it boot now...
[11:33] <DaSkreech> wizard: on what?
[11:33] <wizard> DaSkreech: im watching it
[11:33] <wizard> hmmm
[11:34] <wizard> DaSkreech: it finishes boot and then returns to the kubuntu splash
[11:34] <wizard> DaSkreech: i can get into single user moad
[11:34] <wizard> but runlevel 7 doesn't function or respond
[11:34] <DaSkreech> wizard: Oh then you are set then :)
[11:35] <wizard> its seeing my card as a radeon which its not
[11:36] <DaSkreech> sexie:  I think that should have you setup properly to be on the internet :)
[11:36] <DaSkreech> sexie: If you had a Live Cd that would be even better
[11:36] <wizard> DaSkreech: it has all my stuff set up as "ati"
[11:36] <wizard> can i just install the nvidia drivers off the nvidia site?
[11:36] <DaSkreech> wizard: Ah great :(
[11:37] <DaSkreech> wizard: I suspect you can but what?
[11:37] <wizard> DaSkreech: the ubuntu guide for drivers didn't work
[11:37] <DaSkreech> did you d a sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[11:37] <flaccid> where are setup scripts kept for packages ie. what this calls Setting up mythtv-database (0.18.1-5ubuntu3) ...
[11:37] <sexie> registered. :D
[11:37] <draik> DaSkreech, isn't it         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[11:38] <DaSkreech> Whoop
[11:38] <DaSkreech> wizard: That thing draik said
[11:38] <draik> LOL
[11:39] <DaSkreech> sexie: Nice so you can answer me now :)
[11:39] <wizard> enter the ammount of memory to be used by yuour video card?
[11:39] <wizard> what should that be?
[11:39] <wizard> its a 256MB card
[11:39] <draik> wizard, you can just press ENTER if you want
[11:39] <sexie> DaSkreech; yeah
[11:39] <wizard> use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[11:40] <wizard> draik: should i say yes or no to that?
[11:40] <DaSkreech> sexie: Wait was it a live Cd you used to install?
[11:40] <draik> wizard, the defaults should suffice
[11:40] <DaSkreech> wizard: Defaults are fine till you get to the part you want to change
[11:40] <simone_> where can i found other channels?
[11:40] <DaSkreech>  wizard: It's a LOT of question :)
[11:40] <draik> simone_ what other channels?
[11:40] <DaSkreech> simone_: try typing /list
[11:41] <simone_> ah ok
[11:41] <simone_> thanks
[11:41] <sexie> DaSkreech; no! it was an installation disc.
[11:42] <DaSkreech> sexie: Ack! No Live Cds?
[11:42] <flaccid> how to find which package provides a certain file but the package is not installed?
[11:42] <wizard> what is init 5 on kubuntu?
[11:42] <wizard> init 6 or something?
[11:42] <trappist> flaccid: sudo apt-get install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search filename
[11:42] <DaSkreech> init 6 is reboot
[11:43] <wizard> lol
[11:43] <wizard> OOOPPS
[11:43] <sexie> DaSkreech; I have one for knoppix:games and one for linspire.
[11:43] <Kubu> when i type modprobe ndiswrapper, it tells me
[11:43] <Kubu> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[11:43] <wizard> well the good news is reboot works it was nvidia drivers playing games that was freezing it from rebooting
[11:43] <Kubu> anyone knows why'?
[11:43] <flaccid> ty trappist
[11:43] <DaSkreech> sexie: Anyone works as long as you can get on the net :)
[11:43] <wizard> draik: now the drivers should function properly?
[11:43] <draik> yes wizard
[11:44] <wizard> draik: one would hope you're right my friendj
[11:44] <wizard> kubuntu seems to install video drivers in a very odd way...
[11:44] <draik> wizard, I'll cross my fingers for you
[11:44] <wizard> ahh
[11:44] <wizard> theres the splash for nvidia
[11:44] <sexie> DaSkreech; there's no problem with linspire or knoppix. they work fine.
[11:44] <wizard> now can i switch run levels? there is a mystery...
[11:45] <trappist> flaccid: if you apt-file search for the full path, omit the leading /
[11:45] <wizard> no... draik when i try to switch run levels it goes to a blank screen...
[11:45] <flaccid> ah ok
[11:45] <wizard> draik: and the entire system hangs.
[11:45] <draik> wizard, restart the whole desktop
[11:45] <flaccid> so apt-file search etc/init.d/apache2
[11:45] <miguel> j
[11:45] <wizard> draik: the entire thing is frozen, i just started from a fresh boot too
[11:45] <wizard> it is entirely frozen
[11:45] <draik> wizard, or if you want type startx in tty1
[11:46] <wizard> draik: it is ENTIRELY frozen
[11:46] <wizard> where am i gonna type it
[11:46] <miguel> how can i change my actual login manager if im using gnome?
[11:46] <wizard> draik: no screen, monitor blank and in standby mode.
[11:46] <wizard> draik: no keyboard response, nothing
[11:46] <wizard> draik: i ahve to hard reset it now
[11:47] <DaSkreech> sexie: You get net on both of them? :)
[11:47] <wizard> draik: any ideas?
[11:47] <draik> just the hard reset for now and get a tty1
[11:47] <wizard> draik: it hangs whenever X terminates
[11:47] <wizard> draik: just totally HANGS
[11:47] <wizard> ican't get a tty1 cos it hangs when you go to it
[11:48] <wizard> draik: k, i got ttyy1
[11:48] <wizard> draik: stopped it before nvidia loaded
[11:48] <draik> ok
[11:48] <draik> type statx
[11:48] <draik> sorry
[11:48] <draik> startx
[11:48] <draik> forgot the R
[11:48] <wizard> its already started
[11:48] <sexie> DaSkreech; never tried. I didn't had/have the client you know. seaching for the client currently
[11:49] <wizard> draik: how do i stop X?
[11:49] <wizard> !ssh
[11:49] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:49] <wizard> hmm how can i enable sshd incase it hangs up again?
[11:50] <draik> stop x?
[11:50] <wizard> draik: how do i stop it?
[11:50] <wizard> also how do i enable sshd in kubuntu?
[11:50] <draik> never stopped X. Sorry
[11:50] <wizard> draik: i mean we know the problem is the nvidia drivers are hanging the system when you change run levels...
[11:50] <wizard> draik: thats clearly already decided
[11:51] <trappist> wizard: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:51] <MidMark> hi, someone knows a good mp3 player with mixing capabilities for djs?
[11:51] <draik> hold on... wizard, what is the driver? nvidia or nv?
[11:51] <wizard> nvidia
[11:51] <draik> ok, that's what I have
[11:51] <draik> try nv and see if that works for you
[11:51] <wizard> i am gonna try to use the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website
[11:52] <wizard> draik: it worked fine when it was nv
[11:52] <draik> wizard, switch to nv
[11:53] <trappist> wizard: in my experience that's a framebuffer issue, so I disable the framebuffer when I use nvidia drivers
[11:53] <trappist> wizard: by booting with vga=normal option
[11:54] <DaSkreech> wizard: sudo apt-get install opensshserver
[11:54] <zarrelli> hi
[11:54] <flaccid> i have a file missing from an installed package which has deps. how can i reinstall/refresh the package by installing missing files?
[11:54] <DaSkreech> MidMark: arstechinca had an article on that
[11:54] <wizard> draik: alright its in nv
[11:54] <trappist> flaccid: apt-get install --reinstall
[11:54] <flaccid> ty trappist
[11:54] <draik> wizard, any luck with nv?
[11:55] <wizard> yup
[11:55] <wizard> nv swwitches runlevels and everything
[11:55] <DaSkreech> startx works?
[11:55] <sexie> DaSkreech; can you gimme the irssi command once again. I suppose I wont be logged off if I just reboot.
[11:55] <trappist> wizard: I'm curious to see how it works with nvidia and no framebuffer (that works here)
[11:55] <wizard> well startx didn't work cos x was already up lol
[11:55] <DaSkreech> H ah a:)
[11:56] <flaccid> trappist: command worked, but did not install /init.d/apache2 :(
[11:57] <DaSkreech> sexie: have you ever called the ISP and asked for help on a Linux machine?
[11:57] <wizard> how do you kill X on kubuntu?
[11:57] <DaSkreech> Alt+Ctrl+Esc and click on the desktop >_<
[11:57] <MidMark> DaSkreech: do you meand "DJ software for Windows and Mac OS X" ?
[11:58] <sexie> DaSkreech; they are all morons. they even force you to install their own anti-virus. I got a work-around for it though.
[11:58] <DaSkreech> MidMark: no they did one for linux under linux.ars AIR
[11:58] <flaccid> i reinstall it all now i think
[11:58] <DaSkreech> MidMark: And they spoke about Jack
[11:58] <MidMark> link?
[11:58] <DaSkreech> sexie: Ha ha :) If you have time put up a thread in the forums about it you could be famous
[11:59] <MidMark> ?
[12:00] <wizard> i wanna try and install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site on kubuntu
[12:00] <sexie> DaSkreech; which forums? I just know the IRC link :P. anyways just seacrh for "sify broadband" and you'll come across a lot of hate messages.
[12:00] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[12:00] <DaSkreech> !forums
[12:00] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[12:01] <sexie> !forums
[12:01] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[12:01] <draik> sexie, I called my ISP about 3-4 weeks ago. They d/c'd my connection and so I thought I'd see if they can fix that. The guy tried to help me...
[12:01] <pontino> i all
[12:02] <draik> He told me to click on start.. "I don't use windows"...
[12:02] <pontino> click start..
[12:02] <draik> Oh, so you're using a mac?  "No"
[12:02] <pontino> :D
[12:02] <draik> Here's a bad sign... "What else can you be using?"
[12:03] <wizard> i found a guide i like a little better
[12:03] <sexie> lol draik
[12:03] <draik> I did my own TSing
[12:03] <flaccid> !php > flaccid
[12:03] <sexie> Thanks for the help. its 3.32 AM saturday. will b back tommorrow err. today :P
[12:03] <draik> OK, do you know how to see your ipconfig?  "Yea, it's called ifconfig"
[12:04] <draik> bye sexie
[12:04] <pontino> <?php echo "flaccid" ?>
[12:05] <pontino> <?php flaccid and 0 or die("DIE!") ?>
[12:05] <pontino> bye all
[12:05] <pontino> 3
[12:05] <pontino> 2
[12:05] <pontino> 1
[12:05] <pontino> CLICK
[12:05] <sexie> can you tell me how to come on irssi? the arguments. will try it. and then shut-down
[12:06] <LjL> sexie: just guessing, but perhaps "irssi irc.freenode.org" will do
[12:06] <draik> http://www.draikunderlord.com/IRC.pdf
[12:06] <sexie> thanks
[12:06] <flaccid> meh
[12:06] <draik> sexie, that's the PDF that I created from the class given months ago in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:07] <sexie> :D.
[12:07] <memikep> how do i switch from using kdm to gdm
[12:08] <DaSkreech> sexie: it's irssi -c irc.freenode.org
[12:08] <DaSkreech> then you know the /nick and /join commands
[12:09] <DaSkreech> How do you view pdfs in cli?
[12:09] <sexie> thanks DaSkreech :D
[12:09] <memikep> does anyone know how to switch between kdm and gdm???
[12:09] <ad> Can nyone tell me how to install miranda ? Is it possible ?
[12:09] <DaSkreech> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:09] <memikep> thx
[12:10] <DaSkreech> MidMark: 0_o
[12:12] <wizard> draik: i am following a guide to install linux drivers