[12:27] <lophyte> !seen superm1
[12:27] <ubotu> superm1 is on IRC right now!
[12:27] <lophyte> he is?
[12:27] <lophyte> o_o
[12:27] <superm1> hehe
[12:27] <superm1> Hi
[12:28] <lophyte> hehe
[12:28] <lophyte> hiya
[12:28] <lophyte> I *may* get that box by the weekend..
[12:32] <geser> night
[02:04] <chillywilly> wtf is an "Eft" anyway?
[02:06] <lophyte> wikipedia?
[02:06] <chillywilly> Ent would've been much cooler ;)
[02:12] <Hawkwind> a newt in its terrestrial stage of development
[02:12] <Hawkwind> Google.com and type  define:eft  :P
[02:15] <chillywilly> electronic fund trasnfer ;)
[02:15] <chillywilly> funds*
[02:15] <chillywilly> j/k
[02:53] <ajmitch> too warm in the office today
[03:06] <theCore> hello, all
[03:06] <theCore> does somebody could sync a package for me?
[03:07] <theCore> I got a UVF exception approval, but I can't do the sync because I'm not a MOTU (yet :)
[03:08] <pirast> which bug report is it?
[03:09] <pirast> subscribing ubuntu-archive should be sufficent
[03:09] <pirast> theCore
[03:10] <theCore> bug 64535
[03:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64535 in libming "UVF Exception: libming (0.3beta1) -> ming (0.3.0)" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64535
[03:11] <theCore> pirast, ^
[03:11] <pirast> theCore, it should be sufficent to subscribe ubuntu-archive, which I already did for you.. that worked for 5 uvf exceptions for me..
[03:11] <theCore> how I do that?
[03:11] <theCore> it's a mailing list?
[03:11] <ajmitch> theCore: please write it up according to the sync request requirements
[03:11] <pirast> in the bug report you click on "Subscribe"
[03:12] <theCore> oh
[03:12] <pirast> err
[03:12] <theCore> I get it now
[03:12] <pirast> in the bug report you click on "Subscribe Someone Else"
[03:12] <ajmitch> which means you have to include the debian changelog entries
[03:12] <pirast> enter ubuntu-archive in the file and press add
[03:12] <ajmitch> otherwise the archive admins will just tell you no
[03:12] <ajmitch> please do it before you subscribe..
[03:12] <theCore> ajmitch, they're all there in the bug
[03:13] <ajmitch> no they're not
[03:13] <ajmitch> you have the upstream changelog diff
[03:13] <theCore> what, I need post them explicitly?
[03:13] <ajmitch> you need the debian/changelog entries
[03:13] <theCore> ok, I will upload them
[03:14] <ajmitch> just paste it in, please
[03:14] <pirast> ajmitch, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Processes/UVF does not mention it.. and it worked for me 5 times..
[03:15] <theCore> ajmitch, no diff
[03:15] <theCore> ajmitch, just the changelog?
[03:16] <ajmitch> just the new changelog entries
[03:16] <ajmitch> eg https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pybluez/+bug/65519
[03:16] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65519 in pybluez "pybluez: 0.7-3build1 -> 0.9.1-1 - please sync from Debian" [Medium,Confirmed] 
[03:16] <ajmitch> has the debian changelog entries
[03:16] <theCore> ajmitch, ok thanks
[03:16] <ajmitch> pirast: it really is best to just paste stuff now rather than be turned down later
[03:16] <pirast> ajmitch, yeah you are right..
[03:17] <ajmitch> especially since we're in archive freeze mode
[03:17] <ajmitch> so everything needs approved
[03:17] <imbrandon_> heya ajmitch
[03:17] <ajmitch> hey imbrandon_
[03:19] <pirast> could anyone maybe have a look at bug 65289?
[03:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65289 in skribe "not installable, not buildable" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65289
[03:20] <pirast> it seems to me that we have only two solutions ; delete it from edgy or somehow fix skribe to compile with a newer bigloo version
[03:20] <pirast> when you have an other idea, please write it down there..
[03:20] <pirast> thanks
[03:21] <pirast> 03:21.. going to bed now..
[03:21] <pirast> night
[03:21] <ajmitch> night
[03:21] <theCore> pirast, thanks for the help
[03:21] <pirast> theCore, np..
[03:22] <ajmitch> oh well
[03:26] <theCore> I upload it the changelog
[03:26] <theCore> I hope it will be okay
[03:26] <ajmitch> they prefer that just the changes for the sync be pasted, but oh well
[03:26] <ajmitch> we'll see
[03:41] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:41] <ajmitch> good afternoon
[03:41] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[03:48] <chillywilly> hey bddebian
[03:51] <bddebian> Hi chillywilly
[03:58] <ajmitch> 3rd party package breakage..
[03:58] <ajmitch> sigh
[04:52] <Toadstool> hi everybody
[04:53] <ajmitch> Toadstool: you can't go? :(
[04:53] <Toadstool> nope, too much work
[04:53] <ajmitch> sad
[04:53] <Toadstool> yup :(
[04:54] <Toadstool> I swear I will go to the next one ;)
[04:57] <Toadstool> hmm, we're in RC freeze for Universe too?
[04:58] <ajmitch> yes
[04:58] <ajmitch> so we need to know & approve uploads
[04:59] <Toadstool> ok, good to know, I was not sure, I read tfheen in a rush between 2 meetings :p
[04:59] <Toadstool> +'s mail
[05:19] <Toadstool> wow I love apport-retrace
[05:22] <BHSPitMonkey> hmm
[05:25] <Hobbsee> BHSPitMonkey: not here.  and usually in #ubuntu-devel anyway
[05:25] <Toadstool> hey Hobbsee
[05:25] <BHSPitMonkey> Hobbsee, he hasn't been in there, either :(
[05:25] <Hobbsee> hey Toadstool
[05:25] <Toadstool> Hobbsee: dark side?
[05:25] <Hobbsee> BHSPitMonkey: he's likely asleep or something then
[05:26] <Hobbsee> Toadstool: yeah.  like, apt ubuntu-desktop type badside
[05:26] <BHSPitMonkey> Hobbsee, for a day?
[05:26] <Toadstool> Hobbsee: haha
[05:26] <ajmitch> BHSPitMonkey: why do you need keybuk?
[05:26] <BHSPitMonkey> I just wanted to ask him something
[05:26] <Hobbsee> Toadstool: i dont know if it's worth it though
[05:26] <BHSPitMonkey> it's not as frantic as I made it out to sound
[05:27] <ajmitch> yes, like asking for him twice earlier, only a few minutes apart :)
[05:28] <BHSPitMonkey> do what?
[05:28] <BHSPitMonkey> oh
[05:28] <Toadstool> Hobbsee: believe me, it's worth trying :p
[05:28] <BHSPitMonkey> well more people joined, and nobody had responded
[05:28] <Hobbsee> Toadstool: yeah, but for edgy, or edgy+1?
[05:29] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: DO IT!!
[05:29] <Toadstool> :)
[05:29] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: but...gnome is gnomelike...
[05:29] <Toadstool> Hobbsee: NOW!!
[05:29] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:29] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: full of gnomy goodness!
[05:29] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:29] <ajmitch> tastes better!
[05:30] <ajmitch> works smarter!
[05:30] <Hobbsee> last time i tried it anyway
[05:31] <Toadstool> :D
[05:36] <ajmitch> nice, new UWN - thanks Burgundavia :)
[05:36] <Burgundavia> ajmitch: your welcome
[05:36] <Burgundavia> read it and find out
[05:36] <ajmitch> oh you mentioned f-spot as well
[05:36] <Burgundavia> the names who worked on each issue are clearly laid out
[05:37] <ajmitch> so 3 of the packages I worked on got mentioned - nice
[05:37] <ajmitch> (phpgroupware was mentioned in backports)
[05:38] <ajmitch> make that 4, I helped with ironpython
[05:38] <ajmitch> an unusual week :)
[05:40] <Toadstool> let's call this issue ajmitch weekly newsletter ;)
[05:41] <ajmitch> Toadstool: my efforts are but a drop in the bucket compared to everyone else :)
[05:41] <Toadstool> right.. :)
[05:42] <Toadstool> my efforts miss the bucket then :p
[05:42] <ajmitch> haha
[05:42] <ajmitch> not at all
[05:43] <Toadstool> anyway, I am falling asleep on my keyboard, time to go to bed
[05:43] <Toadstool> cya
[05:43] <ajmitch> bye Toadstool
[05:43] <ajmitch> hi nictuku
[05:44] <nictuku> hello ajmitch
[05:46] <chillywilly> hi
[05:54] <chillywilly> bah, this is taking a bit of time ;P
[07:27] <yoshiznit124> would it be helpful to motu if i included my own debian/ directory in my project, or would they still have write their own packaging stuff?
[07:27] <Hobbsee> yoshiznit124: it wouldnt.  it's highly annoying
[07:27] <yoshiznit124> hmm
[07:28] <yoshiznit124> how so? and how could i make it easier for inclusion into main?
[07:28] <yoshiznit124> for the motu people, that is
[07:30] <yoshiznit124> hobbsee, how so? and how could i make it easier for inclusion into main?
[07:31] <Hobbsee> !packagingguide
[07:31] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[07:32] <minghua> yoshiznit124: you are free to put a debian/ dir in your project, but please don't put it in your released tarball
[07:34] <yoshiznit124> minghua, ok cool. the thing is i'd like to provide deb packages, but i don't have time to full-time motu
[07:38] <minghua> yoshiznit124: sounds good, that way impatient users can use your unofficial packaging, and the Debian/Ubuntu maintainers will use your released tarball and your debian/ dir won't get in the way
[07:39] <minghua> yoshiznit124: I'd also like to ask you to make the version of your packages (debian/changelog) clearly showing that they are not from Debian/Ubuntu, thanks
[07:40] <yoshiznit124> minghua, ok
[08:20] <Kagou> morning
[08:55] <Lathiat> ajmitch: about?
[08:58] <Lathiat> when is slomo usually around?
[09:10] <dholbach> good morning
[09:11] <Fujitsu> Hey dholbach
[09:12] <dholbach> hey Fujitsu
[09:17] <elmargol> to bad that edgy is frozen :( shipping edgy with broken ipod 6thgen support just sucks :(
[09:20] <tepsipakki> elmargol: depends how intrusive changes would be needed
[09:23] <tepsipakki> elmargol: you mean gtkpod-0.99.8 would be needed?
[09:23] <tepsipakki> and libgpod 0.4.0
[09:24] <tepsipakki> it just sucks that gtkpod upstream doesn't release more often ;)
[09:25] <tepsipakki> what kind of a jump is it from 0.99.4 to 0.99.8 ?-)
[09:28] <tepsipakki> elmargol: you can file an UVF-exception and see how it goes
[09:33] <elmargol> tepsipakki: I think the problem is libgpod is used by a lot of applications, rhythmbox, amarok, banshee, gpodder, gtkpod...
[09:33] <elmargol> seb mentioned that the 0.4.0 version breaks API
[11:11] <ajmitch> Lathiat: slomo is away on holiday
[11:12] <Lathiat> ajmitch: ah right
[11:24] <ajmitch> hi \sh
[11:28] <\sh> moins
[11:29] <\sh> omni backup is running nicely on ubuntu dapper server ... creating a package now ,)
[11:29] <ajmitch> yay
[01:45] <phanatic> good afternoon
[01:49] <ctrlsoft> hi phanatic
[01:50] <phanatic> hi ctrlsoft
[01:50] <sladen> yo people
[02:06] <ajmitch> hi
[02:19] <ajmitch> sigh
[02:20] <ajmitch> I said I was going to get an early night..
[02:20] <ajmitch> but it's past 1AM again
[02:21] <\sh> hehe
[02:22] <ajmitch> night :)
[02:24] <kristog> hello
[02:49] <Tonio_> hello
[03:36] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:39] <lophyte> howdy
[03:40] <bddebian> Hello lophyte
[03:41] <lophyte> how's it going?
[03:41] <bddebian> Busy (unfortunately not with Ubuntu stuff :-( ).  You?
[03:42] <lophyte> trying to get unbuffered stream output from a child process in python
[03:43] <bddebian> Joy :)
[03:43] <lophyte> yeah :P
[03:43] <lophyte> its a real pain.. I'm beginning to get the feeling you can't do it
[04:58] <superm1> So, how does one sign local binary packages built by pbuilder?  It seems like you would just pass a -sa and a -k0xXXXXXX, but I'm not sure.
[04:59] <Hobbsee> superm1: why do you want to sign a binary package?
[05:00] <superm1> i'm looking to put up a local repository
[05:00] <superm1> and wanted to sign the packages when building them for it
[05:02] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:02] <superm1> I was assuming that would allieviate the authentication errors once I imported my GPG key to the keyring and used signed packages
[05:02] <superm1> makes testing things in a local network a little smoother
[05:15] <imbrandon> no you need to sign the release file
[05:15] <imbrandon> nothing to do with the packages
[05:15] <superm1> Oh, there is no need to sign packages
[05:15] <imbrandon> e.g i can put precompiled packages from you in my repo but as long as you have my key you dont get the warning
[05:15] <superm1> oh i see.  that makes more sense anyhow
[05:16] <imbrandon> correct, its all in how you make the repo
[05:16] <imbrandon> personaly i use falcon and it takes care of all this, but i'm sure you can read the man for what ever you use to make the repo
[05:16] <superm1> well i was going to assemble this using falcon, but was having trouble finding its source
[05:16] <superm1> at least on the LP page
[05:17] <imbrandon> if you think about it the packages in the ubuntu repo are signed by many hundreds of people
[05:17] <imbrandon> but the repo is signed by ftpmaster@ubuntu.com
[05:17] <imbrandon> its on any seveas mirror ( e.g seveas.imbrandon.com )
[05:17] <superm1> well i was thinking that possibly it signed during the build process by ftpmaster@ubuntu.com as well
[05:18] <imbrandon> in the extras component
[05:18] <superm1> oh okay great
[05:18] <superm1> thx
[05:18] <lophyte> heya superm1
[05:18] <superm1> hey lophyte
[05:18] <lophyte> how's it going?
[05:18] <superm1> alright
[05:18] <imbrandon> fyi the dapper deb works fine on edgy but feel free to rebuild from source
[05:19] <superm1> is it going to make it into universe eventually?
[05:20] <Mez> imbrandon, what's falcomn ?
[05:20] <superm1> https://launchpad.net/products/falcon
[05:21] <imbrandon> Mez, a repo maintaner
[05:21] <imbrandon> builds and maintains and mirrors a personal repo
[05:21] <superm1> its supposed to greatly simplify the process so you dont have to manually do dpkg-scanpackages and dpkg-scansources and sign and such
[05:21] <imbrandon> like the one on imbrandon.com ( or any of seveas's repos ) and a few others
[05:23] <Mez> imbrandon, lol - I built a signing script for repos... I believe Riddell used it for a while
[05:24] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:25] <imbrandon> Mez, well this was made by seveas, its actualy builds the dists and alot of other maint things
[05:25] <imbrandon> not just signing the repo ;)
[05:29] <Mez> ;)
[05:29] <\sh> hmm...export SUDO_FORCE_REMOVE=yes ; apt-get install sudo-ldap libnss-ldap libpam-ldap ldap-utils ; some magic in ldap.conf, copy one ssl pem file, adjusted /etc/pam.d all in all 5 mins and ubuntu server was inserted in our ldap user auth environment
[05:29] <Mez> YEAH THIS DID TOO - IT WORKED FROM A POOL AND THEN BUIOLTS STUFF
[05:29] <Mez> darn caps
[05:30] <\sh> and no compile orgy for sudo with ldap support as on suse
[05:53] <superm1> imbrandon, so about falcon though, what exactly is the hold up for it getting into universe?
[05:55] <Adri2000> what's correct in english: "replace x by y" or "replace x to y" ? I think the first one is better
[05:56] <lophyte> replace x with y
[05:56] <Adri2000> ahh, ok
[05:56] <lophyte> or x was replaced by y
[05:57] <Adri2000> ok
[05:57] <imbrandon> superm1, seveas the upstream author dosent want it in /yet/, it will be for edgy+1
[05:58] <superm1> i see
[06:04] <Adri2000> I need someone on amd64 to try to build a package, please :)
[06:15] <Adri2000> someone on amd64: apt-get source djplay, and apply the debdiff http://adrishost.homeip.net/~adri2000/ubuntu/djplay_0.3.0-0ubuntu2.debdiff, if it builds and works, it's good :)
[06:15] <superm1> Adri2000, I can queue her up
[06:25] <Adri2000> superm1: sorry, I don't understand what you mean :s
[06:25] <superm1> Adri2000, I started a build for it on my amd64 box at home
[06:26] <superm1> Adri2000, I'm at work though, so 'll be able to tell you if it builds, but if its not text based i cant check how well it runs
[06:27] <Adri2000> ok, yes it's gui based, but if it builds it's already a good point, thank you :)
[06:28] <superm1> Not a problem
[06:28] <superm1> :0
[06:28] <superm1> is it a big build?
[06:29] <Adri2000> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/djplay/+builds?build_state=all :p
[06:29] <superm1> k good.
[06:30] <superm1> No it did error out
[06:30] <Adri2000> ah :(
[06:30] <superm1> let me make a pastebin of where it errored
[06:30] <finalbeta> (I might be in the wrong channel, if so, send me packing in the right way). I'm writing a spec, but I'm an end user. looking for someone who is willing to have a look at it and say if it's even sane or on the right way. ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PartitionConfigure )
[06:30] <superm1> http://pastebin.arslinux.com/3914
[06:32] <Adri2000> ahhhhhhhhh, shame on me, I forgot to patch one line
[06:32] <superm1> hehe
[06:36] <Adri2000> superm1: should be ok now, the debdiff is at the same adress
[06:45] <tucoz> does neutrinomass hang around here some time?
[06:50] <tucoz> \sh_away, hi,i see that you created the nedit package for edgy. The problem is that nedit does not work in edgy as described in this bug report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nedit/+bug/57808
[06:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57808 in nedit "nedit does not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[06:53] <tucoz> the reason that i come here, is that there has been little movement wrt that bug lately.
[06:57] <Adri2000> superm1 gone :( anyone else on 64 bits ?
[06:59] <superm1> Adri2000, looks to have built fine this time
[07:00] <Adri2000> great :) thanks again
[07:01] <superm1> not a problem, glad to help :)
[07:08] <Adri2000> dholbach: ping :)
[07:08] <dholbach> Adri2000: pong!
[07:09] <Adri2000> dholbach: http://adrishost.homeip.net/~adri2000/ubuntu/djplay_0.3.0-0ubuntu2.debdiff is that ok for upload?
[07:09] <dholbach> Adri2000: tested on amd64?
[07:11] <Adri2000> superm1 just said it builds, and someone on the upstream mailing list who gave me the original patch says it builds and it works. And Gloubiboulga and me tested on x86, it still builds and works :)
[07:11] <dholbach> ok
[07:11] <dholbach> go ahead
[07:12] <Adri2000> ok, cool :))
[07:57] <dholbach> have a nice weekend
[08:00] <Q-FUNK> dholbach: :)
[08:00] <Q-FUNK> dholbach: sync request on planner done.
[08:00] <dholbach> i saw it
[09:08] <ajmitch> morning
[09:08] <lophyte> heya
[09:09] <Q-FUNK> *yawn*
[09:24] <lophyte> !seen superm1
[09:24] <ubotu> I last saw superm1 (n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1) 48m 57s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[10:55] <finalbeta> Don't know if this is the right channel, so sry if no. I'm writing a spec about a feature that would let ubuntu handle adding of physical drives/ mounting of partitions for end desktop users. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PartitionConfigure if you have some time, please have a read, tell me if it's possible, change edit scratch etc. thnx
[10:56] <ajmitch> ok,  how is it different from the disks admin tool that is/was in the admin menu?
[10:57] <ajmitch> looks like it could be useful though, especially with things like the UUID-based mounting we have that confuses people
[10:57] <finalbeta> the forums already have several questions about those uuid's, they didn't make it any less confusing.
[10:58] <finalbeta> This would just notice that the layout has changed, and offer some standard choises in a GUIish way. This would keep the users away from fstab.
[10:59] <finalbeta> Well, away... Would make linux less scaring for new users :p
[11:02] <finalbeta> I think at first it could stay simple and just detect new local file systems that could be mounted, and auto mount them if the user wants.