[12:01] <shorthorns> Hi
[12:01] <Overand> variant: whaaa?
[12:01] <anon32> ehj20, reveals nothing... but I don't have all repos on, just universe, multiverse, and main
[12:01] <THX-1138> Beamoo - not easily - you might want to take a look at. ubuntulite or puppylinux add icwm
[12:01] <wastrel> arrested != convicted
[12:02] <Gumby> variant: whats the difference between OJ Simpson and Hans Reiser?
[12:02] <variant> Gumby: dunno
[12:02] <Gumby> variant: hans kept journals
[12:02] <variant> wastrel: yeah, i convicted him :)
[12:02] <variant> Gumby: lol, that sucks :P
[12:02] <anon32> wastrel, but arrested usually == guilty
[12:02] <wastrel> anon32:  not true!
[12:02] <wastrel> totally not true!
[12:02] <Gumby> variant: think about that one for a sec
[12:02] <wastrel> no no no
[12:02] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <warlock> How to create a user named "eggdrop" that has full permissions in /home/eggdrop/ ?
[12:03] <variant> Gumby: yeah i got it
[12:03] <Gumby> heh
[12:03] <wastrel> presumption of innocence at least in the US tyvm <grumble>
[12:03] <anon32> warlock, full permissions to /home/eggdrop/ or full permissions as in root?
[12:03] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <Beamoo> where can I ger ubuntu-lite?
[12:03] <variant> wastrel: useradd -m -G users eggdrop -s /bin/bash
[12:03] <wastrel> yes yes i'm done talking about it :] 
[12:03] <warlock> anon32 - I want the user 'eggdrop' to have full permissions in /home/eggdrop
[12:03] <variant> warlock: useradd -m -G users eggdrop -s /bin/bash
[12:04] <ehj20> anon32: you answered your own question then ;-)
[12:04] <anon32> warlock, chown -r eggdrop /home/eggdrop
[12:04] <warlock> let me see
[12:04] <warlock> root@zkillz:/home/eggdrop# chown -r eggdrop /home/eggdrop
[12:04] <warlock> chown: invalid option -- r
[12:04] <variant> warlock: that would be -R
[12:04] <anon32> warlock. chmod -r 7XX /home/eggdrop
[12:04] <warlock> gonna try now
[12:04] <anon32> warlock, capitalize that r, sorry
[12:04] <shorthorns> Has anyone an idean how to speed up konqueror? IPV6 is switched off and still does it take some time to render some of the pages...
[12:04] <warlock> thanks, I think it's working
[12:05] <warlock> gonna try it out :)
[12:05] <anon32> replace the X's with your choice of permission
[12:05] <anon32> ehj20 - :-( have to compile... not gonna be pretty
[12:06] <tim57> crewer: are you still there?
[12:06] <crewer> tim57: Yes
[12:06] <vithos> can someone help me get "0000:00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)" working under ubuntu-server?
[12:06] <tim57> you can have a dist upgrade without seeing the server
[12:06] <livingdaylight> What does one need to program in java in Ubuntu?
[12:06] <tim57> just ssh in
[12:06] <anon32> how can I do a graphical root logon (no lecturing please, I'm not gonna do it, just want to know)?
[12:07] <livingdaylight> ie software and packages
[12:07] <crewer> tim57: From hoary to?
[12:07] <thomasmckay> vithos, iy doesn't work, or you haven't configured it?
[12:07] <iLLf8d> vithos, snot working?
[12:07] <anon32> livingdaylight, your choice of text editor and gcj
[12:07] <tim57> crewer: to whatever
[12:07] <thomasmckay> anon32: its in the gdm options.
[12:07] <vithos> it's not in ifconfig -a
[12:07] <vithos> -a shows unconfigured interfaces right?
[12:07] <anon32> thomasmckay, hmm
[12:07] <tim57> never did it myself but there are a lot of people in the forums
[12:07] <crewer> tim57: nice. How?
[12:07] <thomasmckay> anon32: don't do it.
[12:08] <thomasmckay> or not.
[12:08] <livingdaylight> anon32: thx, Would Bluefish be overkill?
[12:08] <iLLf8d> vithos, is it an eth listing in dmesg?
[12:08] <iLLf8d> vithos, dmesg | grep eth
[12:08] <wastrel> livingdaylight:  sun-java5-jdk  is in multiverse
[12:08] <vithos> no, i only have eth0 and eth1 in dmesg, this would be the third adapter
[12:08] <LoRe> python -c 'import gnomekeyring; kr = gnomekeyring.get_default_keyring_sync()'  does someone get a segmentation fault when running this?
[12:09] <thomasmckay> vithos: is it onboard, pci, or anything other than that?
[12:09] <vithos> pci
[12:10] <iLLf8d> vithos, if they're the same adapters that could be the issue too
[12:10] <vithos> they're all different chipsets
[12:10] <thomasmckay> oh really? i didn't know that you couldn't have 2 of the same adapters.
[12:10] <vithos> but one's also made by RealTek
[12:10] <iLLf8d> thomasmckay, you can but you can run into issues at times too
[12:10] <vithos> the other realtek is working, and it's an 8139
[12:11] <SeicherlBoB> hi there! can anyone help me with wpa-supplicant? beaconing is disabled, SSIDs are identical, but the client keeps telling "skip - SSID mismatch". any ideas?
[12:11] <iLLf8d> thomasmckay, some chipsets want the same resources and often there can be issues especially if its a shared isa/pci combo slot
[12:11] <Eddie> My good Lord Ubuntu is fantastic
[12:11] <tim57> crewer: http://www.johnnysthoughts.com/2006/08/21/upgrading-ubuntu-from-hoary-to-dapper/
[12:11] <Eddie> it actually recognises, by default, hotkeys on a microsoft keyboard
[12:11] <Eddie> how fantastic is that
[12:11] <Eddie> that is unreal
[12:11] <thomasmckay> eddie: its something.
[12:11] <crewer> tim57: thanks.
[12:11] <tim57> crewer: there is also an other way
[12:11] <Eddie> thomasmckay: not much work to it, to be fair, but it is highly consummate
[12:12] <crewer> tim57: Look here: http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=php5&submit=Submit+Query&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all ;) Mirrors
[12:12] <iLLf8d> vithos, can you check the chipset to see if its supported?
[12:12] <tim57> crewer: you can netinstall ubuntu
[12:12] <iLLf8d> vithos, and if so try to load the module by hand
[12:13] <vithos> iLLf8d: ok, i'll see if i can find out
[12:13] <armadill0> Anyone know the skinny on when EdgyEft Stable is being released?  So exciting!
[12:13] <waddletron2k> So why is there no libvisual plugin for Beep or XMMS but libvisual-plugins claims to have mysterious and nameless "plugins"... are these ones that libvisual-xmms and such would actually connect to and use or are these for music players?
[12:13] <goofy> i just formatted a hddand made a ext3 partishion and i do not have premission to write "help!"
[12:14] <vithos> iLLf8d: someone claims the NE2000 module supports it, but `modprobe NE2000` says module not found
[12:14] <tim57> crewer: here is another link: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake
[12:14] <crewer> thx :)
[12:15] <goofy> how do i change ownership and/or premissions of a drive
[12:16] <tim57> bye all
[12:16] <iLLf8d> vithos probably one of these
[12:17] <SeicherlBoB> can anybody help me with an wpa-supplicant issue?
[12:17] <iLLf8d> ./kernel/drivers/net/ne.ko ./kernel/drivers/net/ne2.ko ./kernel/drivers/net/ne2k-pci.ko ./kernel/drivers/net/ne3210.ko
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> It would be nice if they spent more time fixing the upgrade process than they do defending it.
[12:17] <iLLf8d> maybe try ne2k-pci (you can do a modinfo for a description first)
[12:17] <sadewr> what's glib?
[12:17] <iLLf8d> it'll have info telling you what you can feed it on load
[12:17] <crewer> sadewr: www.google.com define:glib
[12:17] <sadewr> all softs that Im trying to install are missing glib (whatver version here)
[12:17] <iLLf8d> so read modinfo first
[12:18] <thomasmckay> !anybody
[12:18] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:18] <wastrel> glib = gnu c library
[12:18] <SeicherlBoB> thomasmckay: i
[12:18] <SeicherlBoB> sry
[12:18] <jackson_> how do I create a new (text) file in bash?
[12:18] <wastrel> jackson_:  you use your favorite text editor
[12:18] <vithos> iLLf8d: modprobe ne2k-pci returned successfully, but i still don't see an eth2
[12:18] <wastrel> jackson_:  or if you just want to create blank ones you can use    touch <filename>
[12:18] <SeicherlBoB> thomasmckay: you wanna help? my client wont find the AP if beaconing is disabled although the SSIDs are right
[12:18] <sadewr> Im totally stuck... Old browser, no video driver, no libs, all downloads go at 0.1% speed
[12:19] <jackson_> wastrel: thanks
[12:19] <vithos> iLLf8d: oh, sorry, going to read modinfo now
[12:19] <pike_> goofy: you could sudo chmod -R +w /mnt/mountpoint i guess
[12:19] <pike_> goofy: but dont do that if it is another operating system you mounted
[12:19] <thomasmckay> SeicherlBoB: i have no experience with APs that don't becon... but I would assume if your wifi card is working correctly, and you have all the SSIDs and passwords correct, it should connect.
[12:20] <sadewr> I got a original DVD full of original windows (dev versions). But I dont have cdkeys... will it install with pirate cdkeys??
[12:20] <vithos> iLLf8d: on second thought, i can't say i know what to do after reading modinfo
[12:20] <thomasmckay> SeicherlBoB: has your card worked in linux before?
[12:20] <goofy> thanks pike ill try that
[12:20] <SeicherlBoB> thomasmckay: thats the point. it was working some days ago. no it does not. no clue why. passphrase is correct, cause it works if beaconing is on
[12:20] <thomasmckay> sadewr: i don't think people are going to help you pirate software.
[12:20] <iLLf8d> vithos, you really need to look at the physical chip on the nic if you can or see if it shows in your lspci output
[12:21] <phaedrus_> if i load a driver in ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper -l  reports driver present, hardware present   shouldnt  modprobe ndiswrapper and then iwconfig show a wireless adapter?
[12:21] <iLLf8d> vithos, this way you won't waste your time trying to load it with the wrong driver (cause it won't work)
[12:21] <XeniX> sadewr: yes they will. take M$ for every penny you can, ha ha
[12:21] <ianmacgregor> sadewr: Especially in an Ubuntu help channel.
[12:21] <vithos> i have looked at the physical chip on the nic, and it says realtek 8029(as), which is what lspci says
[12:21] <vithos> and that's what i googled for and found someone claiming the NE2000 module works for it, but i'm not sure where to look other than google to find these things out
[12:22] <thomasmckay> sadewr: if you're going to pirate it, you shouldn't need help doing so.
[12:22] <sadewr> KDE 2.1 came with built in browser, but whenever I load it and try to browse a site, BANG! it crashes wiwth an error message
[12:22] <Beamoo> do u guys use the graphical interface or the console moore?
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Ethx, is what communicates with your PC ---- Wifi(x) is what communicates with Ethx
[12:23] <variant> is there a command line installer for ubuntu or is it just gui based?
[12:23] <sadewr> hmm... ubuntu is growing and growing in popularity.
[12:23] <SeicherlBoB> thomasmckay: any suggestions?
[12:23] <sadewr> what about mandriva?
[12:23] <variant> I want to install via ssh into a chroot
[12:24] <ianmacgregor> sadewr: Please keep your questions/comments on topic for this Ubuntu support channel
[12:24] <iLLf8d> vithos, one sec I gotta do something
[12:24] <pike_> !install
[12:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:24] <thomasmckay> SeicherlBoB: i would try reconfiguring everything, if that fails, try reinstalling ndiswrapper. I have no idea how it works as i've never used it. But if you say it's been working, but suddenly stopped working, i think there should be an easy solution.
[12:24] <vithos> iLLf8d: no problem
[12:24] <variant> Beamoo: it depends what i am doing
[12:25] <sadewr> Im totally stuck with sucky netscape 4.7, how can I download faster with it??
[12:25] <iamtheric> openmosix is my hero
[12:25] <thomasmckay> Beamoo: i only use the console when i mess up my xorg.
[12:25] <ianmacgregor> sadewr: If you're using KDE 2.1, you really need to update it :)
[12:25] <thomasmckay> :D
[12:25] <iamtheric> sadewr, wget
[12:25] <thomasmckay> yeah.
[12:25] <thomasmckay> sounds like it.
[12:25] <thomasmckay> or english is a second language.
[12:25] <variant> Beamoo: generaly i am more comfertable on the command line.. but that just because its faster to do most things via commands than a gui
[12:25] <ianmacgregor> /ignore sadewr
[12:25] <denisbr> Hi, I am trying to install the Ubuntu using the chroot (in the slackware) and show me the error: W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/ubuntu mount -t proc proc /proc in the command debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /mnt/ubuntu file:/mnt/cdrom/ubuntu
[12:25] <variant> Beamoo: if you konw the commands that is
[12:25] <sadewr> i would update KDE if I wasn't stuck with slow download speeds
[12:26] <iamtheric> sadewr, how fats is your connect?
[12:26] <phaedrus_> if i install a .deb by using dpkg -i  ..how do i uninstall it?
[12:26] <sadewr> 2mbits
[12:26] <iamtheric> sadewr, i get 4kbps
[12:26] <sadewr> downloads going at 5kbs
[12:26] <thomasmckay> sadewr: order kubuntu cds from the website. they will mail the lastest stuff to you free.
[12:26] <variant> phaedrus_: dpkg -R
[12:26] <variant> phaedrus_: dpkg -r
[12:26] <iamtheric> i am doing a dist upgrade from redhat9 at 3-4kbps
[12:26] <variant> phaedrus_: type man dpkg, it tells you how to use it
[12:26] <phaedrus_> dpkg -r  ??
[12:27] <LjL> phaedrus_: apt-get works too
[12:27] <phaedrus_> ok thanks
[12:27] <wastrel> bye now super nice chatting with you
[12:27] <LjL> phaedrus_: though of course, if you can avoid installing external .debs in the first place, it's be better... ;)
[12:28] <kantlivelong> can openoffice open quicken/ms money formats?
[12:28] <avagant> !alien
[12:28] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[12:28] <iLLf8d> fark I brb gotta logout I gotta get my keys manager going again and its tied to gdm/gconf crap
[12:29] <avagant> How is it dangerous though?
[12:29] <avagant> !APT
[12:29] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:29] <Beamoo> what linuz system would u reccomend for a computer with 64 mb RAM?
[12:29] <denisbr> Anybody help me ?
[12:29] <pike_> kantlivelong: might look at crossover office
[12:30] <iamtheric> Beamoo, redhat 9 or damnsmall
[12:30] <avagant> Hey guys, if any of you are using the forums and starting out...
[12:30] <kantlivelong> pike_: no openoffice support?
[12:30] <pike_> kantlivelong: maybe im not familiar
[12:30] <avagant> Don't download the w32 codecs, as there is a virus.
[12:30] <frying_fish> This is going to sound random, but does anyone else use a 1920x1200 monitor and perhaps have a decent 1920x1200 gdm theme?
[12:30] <ianmacgregor> avagant: Got any documentation of that?
[12:30] <frying_fish> avagant: a virus? extremely unlikely.
[12:30] <finalbeta> avagant, N
[12:30] <finalbeta> ?
[12:30] <lando> whois atoponce
[12:31] <avagant> No, not really.
[12:31] <Cuog_422> is there a boot command i can put in to install ubuntu directly without having to boot to live CD?
[12:31] <avagant> It's not unlikely.
[12:31] <denisbr> Hi, I am trying to install the Ubuntu using the chroot (in the slackware) and show me the error: W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/ubuntu mount -t proc proc /proc in the command debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /mnt/ubuntu file:/mnt/cdrom/ubuntu
[12:31] <lansing> it is a virus
[12:31] <frying_fish> avagant: how is it a virus.
[12:31] <iamtheric> i use it
[12:31] <ianmacgregor> avagant: Well, you know what they say, "if you aint got the data, yo chatta don't matta"
[12:31] <lansing> i have crash my system cuz of it
[12:31] <iamtheric> works fine
[12:31] <sadewr> OFMG
[12:31] <sadewr> Im downloading glibc_2.2.4 but the download stalled at 99%
[12:31] <avagant> Well considering my virus scanner said "Magest.a32" I would consider that a virus.
[12:31] <iamtheric> lansing, fail
[12:31] <frying_fish> lansing: something causing a crash doesn't automatically make it a wirus.
[12:32] <lansing> then wat then
[12:32] <tRSS> how do I find out my ssh client public key?
[12:32] <ianmacgregor> avagant: Windows viruses don't work on Linux anyway
[12:32] <variant> sadewr: if your using wget then just restart it with wget -c
[12:32] <frying_fish> avagant: a) w32 codecs are a .dll copy across to work on a linux system, so "Magest.a32" wouldn't be able to infect the system anyway.
[12:32] <avagant> Lansing, you should uninstall that codec though the w32, and get the one that's on the ubuntu wiki.
[12:32] <frying_fish> b) your virus scanner is most likely showing a false positive.
[12:32] <avagant> Well regardless.
[12:32] <avagant> :D
[12:33] <frying_fish> tRSS: cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub (if its dsa)
[12:33] <iLLf8d> ok ib
[12:33] <avagant> Hey is anyone else having problems with xmms?
[12:33] <lansing> i have done that thats y i was here yesterday gettin help cus my computer crashed cus of that
[12:33] <frying_fish> avagant: as I said, most likely reporting a false positive.
[12:33] <iLLf8d> who was I talking with again?
[12:33] <avagant> My XMMS likes to freeze.
[12:33] <avagant> False positive eh?
[12:33] <tRSS> frying_fish: i am using openSSH
[12:33] <frying_fish> more than likely, if you are scanning a .deb file.
[12:33] <iLLf8d> anyone have a decent vnc daemon tunneling script?
[12:34] <finalbeta> avagant must be a new ubuntu user coming from windows, seeing viruses everywhere :p
[12:34] <frying_fish> tRSS: yeah, openssh is the default ssh program.
[12:34] <frying_fish> finalbeta: probably.
[12:34] <iLLf8d> I need to get mine setup for multiple accounds and to kill off the tunnels afterwards its only setup for one connection atm
[12:34] <avagant> Hahah finalbeta, I've had Ubuntu for 2 weeks.
[12:34] <avagant> :D
[12:34] <frying_fish> iLLf8d: why not just ssh -L 5000:localhost:5900 user@host
[12:34] <lansing> u can get any virus on any system it dont matter wat system u have
[12:34] <frying_fish> then vnc localhost:5000
[12:34] <avagant> AND reinstalled Ubuntu 6 times.
[12:35] <avagant> I win for n00b of the year!
[12:35] <ianmacgregor> hehe
[12:35] <avagant> I keep breaking my sound.
[12:35] <sadewr> my downloads wont go faster than 6kbs
[12:35] <frying_fish> lansing: technically true, but in this case a *windows* virus cannot and will not "work" on a linux system.
[12:35] <iLLf8d> yeah thats what I do but to get an icon to launch it and manage multiple connections, resolutions, vnc passwords and displays etc...
[12:35] <avagant> So anyone have swiftfox?
[12:35] <tRSS> frying_fish: i don't have any id_dsa.pub or id_rsa.pub file in my .ssh directory
[12:35] <dougbrowne> help, when i was adding a channel in the package manager i typed it wrong and now i cant delete it cuz i dont see it on the list and u cank use the add/remove program thing...
[12:35] <lansing> true but never say never
[12:35] <frying_fish> tRSS: then you most likely haven't set up public and private keys
[12:35] <vithos> iLLf8d: welcome back
[12:35] <frying_fish> I didn't say "never" I said highly unlikely
[12:35] <tRSS> frying_fish: how do I do that then?
[12:35] <avagant> Does Swiftfox depend on firefox, for instance do you have to HAVE firefox open in order to run swiftfox?
[12:36] <frying_fish> and that a w32 virus cannot infect a linux system
[12:36] <iLLf8d> frying_fish, why do you just do that for multiple machines every time w/out scripting it away?
[12:36] <avagant> I know it's a n00b question but.
[12:36] <frying_fish> tRSS: to create them, do ssh-keygen --help for the options
[12:36] <lansing> y not
[12:36] <fnoyan> hi
[12:36] <tRSS> frying_fish: thanks! :)
[12:36] <frying_fish> iLLf8d: because I very very rarely remotely use X
[12:36] <iLLf8d> vithos, ah ok so you've established yourself its an ne2000 chipset compatible chip?
[12:36] <avagant> I put the little icon on my panel and it won't open but I know I have it.
[12:36] <fnoyan> is this the quota management program for ubuntu -> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/hoary/admin/quota
[12:36] <frying_fish> and don't tend to tunnel vnc, I just use ssh and the commandline, since I am perfectly happy with it.
[12:37] <sadewr> aaa
[12:37] <iLLf8d> frying_fish, I usually open a winxp, osx, and ubuntu session to my deb desktop
[12:37] <avagant> And what's this about people wanting to take away the command line on the forums?
[12:37] <vithos> iLLf8d: yes, that's what i'm reading in multiple places.  also found out that the n2k-pci module depends on another module, 8390, which i modprobed successfully
[12:37] <iLLf8d> and sometimes freebsd too
[12:37] <variant> tRSS: installing sshd with apt-get will generate public/private keys for you
[12:37] <avagant> iLLf8d: GEEZUS.
[12:37] <AsheD> anybody know of a way to queue up a list of files to send through ssh?
[12:37] <ianmacgregor> avagant: Ignore it, it'll never happen
[12:37] <avagant> iLLf8d: I wish I had that kind of power.
[12:37] <frying_fish> the day the command line is taken away from ubuntu is the day I go to something else.
[12:37] <avagant> I know it won't, but that's stupid the command line is fun!
[12:37] <iLLf8d> avagant, huh? just get a bunch of garbage pcs and do it
[12:37] <ianmacgregor> frying_fish: Me too
[12:37] <avagant> Even when you don't know what you are doing.
[12:38] <dougbrowne> help, when i was adding a channel in the package manager i typed it wrong now i cant use the package downloader thing andi cant remove the wrongly typed channel cuz its not on the list
[12:38] <avagant> Well I've got one garbage pc, that's enough for me :D
[12:38] <iLLf8d> vithos, so is it showing up?
[12:38] <vithos> iLLf8d: no, not in ifconfig -a
[12:38] <iLLf8d> vithos, in dmesg that is
[12:38] <vithos> oh
[12:38] <dougbrowne> plz help
[12:38] <frying_fish> AsheD: one way could be this add all the files to a file called scpqueue then do: scp `cat scpqueue` user@host:.
[12:38] <ianmacgregor> dougbrowne: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:38] <iLLf8d> if its not its probably not the right module for it
[12:38] <Kismet> is there a Linux Partition Copier that can do NTFS?
[12:38] <iLLf8d> or at the very least it should bitch about resources and bail
[12:39] <avagant> Anyways.
[12:39] <frying_fish> gparted can deal with ntfs.
[12:39] <avagant> So Swiftfox?
[12:39] <livingdaylight> google earth doesn't come by default in Kubuntu. Where do i find it?
[12:39] <AsheD> frying_fish:: I am just looking for some way that will send ALL the files, though my internet connection may cut out
[12:39] <LjL> !ntfsprogs
[12:39] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (dapper), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB
[12:39] <gnomefreak> !googleearth
[12:39] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[12:39] <avagant> I was hoping Alien would unpack the last.fm tar for me and make it into a deb so I don't screw it up again.
[12:39] <LjL> Kismet: ^
[12:39] <AsheD> frying_fish:: atm I am using sshfs, but that doesn't work if my connection dies
[12:39] <frying_fish> AsheD: ahh, well in that case no sorry.
[12:39] <avagant> What IS google earth?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: ^^^ btw its non-free and not stable is why its not added in ubuntu
[12:39] <iLLf8d> avagant, you can get setup with all those with the exception of winxp and osx for free for the os and used pcs are like 10-40$ range usually at garage sales thrift stores and off craigslist (some often free just if you pickem up)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> avagant: a 3d satilite app
[12:40] <Ng> is it possible to get compiz/aiglx working with stock edgy packages? every howto/guide I find has lots of crazy stuff about third party repositories and packages
[12:40] <Kismet> frying_fish, LjL: Will these tools also copy the MBR? I'm trying to migrate to a larger boot drive
[12:40] <avagant> iLLf8d: That's where I got this computer Craigslist.
[12:40] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: what's the worst that can happen?
[12:40] <avagant> iLLf8d: It's been nothing but trouble.
[12:40] <sad_windows_brok> i give
[12:40] <gnomefreak> ng see #ubuntu-xgl
[12:40] <LjL> Kismet: dunno, don't think
[12:40] <frying_fish> Kismet: why do you need to copy the MBR, you could always just reinstall grub on the new drives MBR
[12:40] <iLLf8d> I threw out about 12 machines I accumulated over the years about a year back
[12:40] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: it can break something it depends on something important like oh X
[12:40] <sad_windows_brok> for each software that I try to install, a package is missing... for each package or lib that I download, more and more packages and libs are needed
[12:40] <Ng> gnomefreak: ok thanks, Ifigured that would just be for xgl
[12:41] <avagant> Dangit, iLLf8d. Where you at? XD
[12:41] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: lol
[12:41] <iLLf8d> in los angeles area atm
[12:41] <kmasta> what do I do once I have a deb file, what do I do with it?
[12:41] <Kismet> frying_fish: guess i don't know how to install GRUB outside of doing a full Linux Install
[12:41] <avagant> Hahaha
[12:41] <avagant> Irony.
[12:41] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: oh, only X , that alrite then ;)
[12:41] <ianmacgregor> sad_windows_brok: welcome to dependency hell
[12:41] <frying_fish> Kismet: !grub
[12:41] <vithos> iLLf8d: i only see one new line in dmesg, and i think it's for one of the other ne-ish modules that failed to load, "ne.c: You must supply "io=0xNNN" value(s) for ISA cards."
[12:41] <frying_fish> !grub
[12:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:41] <avagant> Although a year ago I wasn't in California.
[12:41] <frying_fish> Kismet: just follow those instructions from ubotu
[12:41] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: but lots of other distros install with Google earth by default
[12:41] <frying_fish> its pretty simple.
[12:41] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: not only thats just one of many things it can break
[12:41] <iLLf8d> vithos, is it an isa card?
[12:41] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: gues it'll get more stable in time
[12:41] <Kismet> frying_fish: thanks very much!
[12:41] <LjL> do we have a decent google earth .deb yet by the way?
[12:41] <avagant> gnomefreak: Is it a good app?
[12:42] <iLLf8d> vithos, I thought you said it was a pci card
[12:42] <vithos> iLLf8d: no, i don't have any isa cards or slots
[12:42] <avagant> Or does GE eat up alot of memory yada yada.
[12:42] <frying_fish> Kismet: you're welcome
[12:42] <thomasmckay> I'm experiencing problems starting Xorg with fglrx drivers. Xorg refuses to start. I've done this before, i know what i'm doing. Has Xorg broken support of fglrx temporarily??
[12:42] <avagant> I shouldn't download anymore applications really my computer is already slow enough.
[12:42] <avagant> gnomefreak: Do you know anything about swiftfox?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> avagant: i use it
[12:43] <sad_windows_brok> libgtk... is that GTK?
[12:43] <avagant> gnomefreak: Do you have to have firefox open in order to use it?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> no
[12:43] <avagant> gnomefreak: It's a n00by question but I don't understand why I can't launch it.
[12:43] <sad_windows_brok> oh my god
[12:43] <gnomefreak> avagant: what version did you install?
[12:43] <sad_windows_brok> GTK is only 20mb, but being stuck with 6kbs.. itll take hours
[12:43] <gnomefreak> sad_windows_brok: yes
[12:43] <avagant> gnomefreak: I have it on my panel, and it won't launch.
[12:44] <gnomefreak> libgtk is a library for gtk
[12:44] <avagant> gnomefreak: But it launched right after a DL'd it.
[12:44] <iLLf8d> vithos, I'm guessing its not an ne card if the pci version didn't work the modinfo for it doesn't allow resource settings just says flags for full duplex and whatnot
[12:44] <thomasmckay> sad_windows_brok: thats the way it goes.
[12:44] <THX-1138> !info fglrx-xconfig
[12:44] <gnomefreak> avagant: what is the launch command its using?
[12:44] <ubotu> Package fglrx-xconfig does not exist in any distro I know
[12:44] <LjL> sad_windows_brok: should be less than one hour, actually
[12:44] <avagant> usr bin swiftfox
[12:44] <avagant> with /'s
[12:44] <avagant> for some reason I can't write / in here without it thinking it's some command.
[12:44] <gnomefreak> avagant: put this as the launch command swiftfox %u
[12:44] <ianmacgregor> avagant: Open a term and type: which swiftfox
[12:44] <iLLf8d> vithos, when you do an lspci and find the entry in the lsit does it match any of the aliases in the modinfo output?
[12:45] <avagant> I've got 1.5.0.7 btw.
[12:45] <ker0uac> How do I very whether certain modules are running?
[12:45] <ianmacgregor> avagant: / space / will get a / in the channel for you
[12:45] <gnomefreak> avagant: mine lauches with command "swiftfox %u" and works fine :)
[12:45] <avagant> without quotes?
[12:45] <ianmacgregor> yes
[12:45] <thomasmckay> avagant: maybe you'd find better answers in the firefox irc?
[12:46] <avagant> There we go.
[12:46] <pike_> ker0uac: lsmod
[12:46] <avagant> It luanched.
[12:46] <avagant> I just don't want to have to use firefox.
[12:46] <vithos> iLLf8d: the aliases like "pci:v000010ECd00008029sv*sd*bc*sc*i*"?
[12:46] <avagant> Well the original firefox.
[12:46] <LjL>  /usr/bin/swiftfox -- prefixing a space should do...
[12:46] <iLLf8d> vithos, nm I'm thinking of the old lspnp output
[12:46] <avagant> All of my plugins worked right off the bat with swiftfox too.
[12:46] <kmasta> what do I do with a .deb file once i've downloaded i
[12:47] <vithos> iLLf8d: oh. well actually now that you mention it, that one i just pasted has 8029 in it
[12:47] <SuperMiguel> when i try to open my apacheweb page it tells me that i dont have permisions :S
[12:47] <avagant> dpkg -i <name of deb)
[12:47] <ianmacgregor> /usr/bin/swiftfox
[12:47] <avagant> I don't need to redirect my flash or anything, my swiftfox just works.
[12:47] <avagant> Considering that I've read most people have to redirect everything.
[12:48] <avagant> Now it won't start up again, hmm.
[12:48] <ianmacgregor> avagant: open a term and type:  ps aux | grep swiftfox
[12:49] <avagant> I wonder if maybe I got the wrong version for my computer.
[12:49] <ianmacgregor> avagant: It may still be running or something
[12:49] <avagant> no processes killed.
[12:49] <avagant> I don't even know what kind of computer I have. Haha
[12:49] <iLLf8d> vithos, whats your lspci show for your eth entries? lspci | grep Eth
[12:49] <gnomefreak> avagant: what processor do you have?
[12:49] <avagant> I don't know.
[12:50] <avagant> I got it off craigslist.
[12:50] <vithos> iLLf8d: i pm'ed it to you
[12:50] <avagant> I got robbed for it though, haha.
[12:50] <iLLf8d> vithos, you're not registered paste it in here if its like 4 lines and under
[12:50] <iLLf8d> I didn't get it
[12:50] <adam__> what do i do with a .bin and a .obj file?
[12:50] <vithos> oh.
[12:50] <vithos> 0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[12:50] <ianmacgregor> avagant: Learn to build your own computers.. it's much cheaper and more fun
[12:50] <vithos> 0000:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> avagant: type cat /proc/cpuinfo in terminal
[12:50] <vithos> 0000:00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)
[12:50] <avagant> I know it's a amd computer.
[12:50] <avagant> But that's as far as I know.
[12:51] <gnomefreak> vithos: please use pastebin
[12:51] <LjL> adam__: leave them alone, possibly, if you have to ask. what do you have them for?
[12:51] <iLLf8d> gnomefreak, its 3 lines
[12:51] <thomasmckay> adam__ .bins are binaries. if you trust them, right click, select properties -> permissions and set it to execute.
[12:51] <iLLf8d> vithos, which loaded?
[12:51] <pike_> avagant: cat /proc/cpuinfo and so on for some info
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ah avagant what swiftfox did you install?
[12:51] <thomasmckay> .obj are object files... probably java or something.
[12:51] <avagant> one of the amd ones but i think the second one.
[12:51] <vithos> iLLf8d: the first two work, the last (8029) doesn't
[12:51] <gnomefreak> iLLf8d: i dont remember asking how many lines it was i didnt know he was done
[12:51] <avagant> i think there were like 2 choices for amd.
[12:52] <avagant> AuthenticaAMD AMD Duron processor.
[12:52] <gnomefreak> avagant: what does cat /proc/cpuinfo say
[12:52] <avagant> 64 KB
[12:52] <avagant> cache size
[12:52] <iamtheric> somebody said i could stick another video card in my box and have dual monitors, what version of x would support that?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> avagant: dont need all that
[12:52] <gnomefreak> avagant: hold on a sec
[12:52] <avagant> AMD Duron Processor.
[12:52] <avagant> Sorry this is all new to me, I have fun with the command line though.
[12:53] <gnomefreak> avagant: does it say speed of it
[12:53] <avagant> I know more about my computer now than I did before.
[12:53] <avagant> No it doesn't.
[12:53] <ChickenTalons> im running a dual core system and I love it
[12:53] <ianmacgregor> avagant: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz
[12:53] <avagant> Oh wait yah ok.
[12:53] <avagant> 902.211
[12:53] <thomasmckay> eww
[12:53] <thomasmckay> hehe
[12:53] <sad_windows_brok> what torrent client for linux do I use?
[12:54] <iLLf8d> vithos, try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=362578
[12:54] <gnomefreak> avagant: i think you want the atholon xp
[12:54] <thomasmckay> sad_windows_brok: the one it comes with.
[12:54] <beef> sad_windows_brok: ltorrent!
[12:54] <avagant> I thought that's the one I got, but I'm not sure.
[12:54] <beef> *ktorrent
[12:54] <avagant> I wish I could remember.
[12:54] <gnomefreak> avagant: no
[12:54] <beef> sudo apt-get install ktorrent, its kind of like abc or utorrent for windows :)
[12:54] <pike_> sad_windows_brok: i use ktorrent right now
[12:54] <gnomefreak> avagant: you want the duron
[12:54] <david_> Does anyone know whether the xorg-air-core package on dapper has the updates nessecary to make it work Beryl+suspend/resume?
[12:54] <thomasmckay> sad_windows_brok: ubuntu has a torrent downloader right now.
[12:54] <ianmacgregor> avagant: XP is 3200++ iirc
[12:54] <avagant> there'a duron one?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> avagant: http://getswiftfox.com/releases.htm
[12:54] <iLLf8d> gnomefreak, understandable but you might want to wait for it to be a flood first next time
[12:54] <gnomefreak> that link will give you one
[12:54] <thomasmckay> david_: i highly doubt suspend/resume works.
[12:55] <avagant> Can IOH DUH
[12:55] <avagant> gnomefreak: feel free to slap me.
[12:55] <frying_fish> sad_windows_brok: you could always use azureus
[12:55] <avagant> Can I just uninstall swiftfox?
[12:55] <beef> ChickenTalons: needy female = nice boobs and you got distracted ?
[12:55] <thomasmckay> he could always have used google.
[12:55] <avagant> or because I downloaded the package do I have to dpkg it?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> iLLf8d: how about you drop it. he didnt say he stopped its also a very good habit to learn to use pastebin for all pasting that way there is no how many lines can i paste
[12:55] <gnomefreak> avagant: sudo dpkg -r swiftfox
[12:56] <avagant> gnomefreak: You deserve a drink or 2.
[12:56] <beef> sudo apt-get remove swiftfox :)
[12:56] <iLLf8d> gnomefreak, why don't you drop it you jumped the gun and now you're trying to support the fact that you were a jerk
[12:56] <david_> thomasmckay: I read on the beryl forms that the AIGLX/x.org patches exist, but my laptop still hates suspend/resume.  Do you know if these patches really do exist; if so, could you point me in the direction to compile X with them added?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> .opme
[12:56] <vithos> iLLf8d: the module is loaded (two lines when i grep lspci for ne2k_pci)
[12:56] <gnomefreak> iLLf8d: i asked you to drop it
[12:57] <thomasmckay> david: i've heard of these patches, but also, it comes down to whether your x.org drivers support suspending.
[12:57] <avagant> I like swiftfox 30 times better anyways.
[12:57] <thomasmckay> fglrx does not.
[12:57] <vithos> gnomefreak: he told me in this channel to paste if it was under 4 lines, i'm guessing you missed that
[12:57] <ChickenTalons> beef, nah single mom who cant afford a computer and Ive got an extra lying around taking up space and not being used
[12:57] <vithos> gnomefreak: it was right before i pasted the 3 lines
[12:57] <gnomefreak> vithos: all i did was warn you about pasting
[12:57] <avagant> DANGIT THERES NO DEB
[12:57] <gnomefreak> avagant: hold on
[12:57] <avagant> haha
[12:57] <avagant> i hate untaring things.
[12:58] <Kismet> hey, how do you switch from the Graphical loader to the standard VGA display as Ubuntu's booting up? F12? ESC?
[12:58] <avagant> i wish alien would do tar.
[12:58] <iLLf8d> nice of you to be in power and abusing it
[12:58] <beef> ChickenTalons: very noble :)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> avagant: lol
[12:58] <avagant> It would make my life 300 times easier.
[12:58] <avagant> I've fought with so many tar packages in 2 weeks.
[12:58] <vithos> gnomefreak: actually i think you just got someone killed. did he call you names in a query?
[12:58] <thomasmckay> !checkinstall
[12:58] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[12:58] <avagant> I think the worst 2 were Nicotine+ and Last.Fm
[12:58] <LjL> avagant: even though it's an alien, it can't read the tarball maker's mind
[12:58] <gnomefreak> iLLf8d: you calling an op names will get you banned. now again i ask you to drop it if you care to continue this we will do it in #ubuntu-ops
[12:59] <thomasmckay> avagant: use lastexit.
[12:59] <iLLf8d> I'd like that
[12:59] <avagant> I couldn't get it to work.
[12:59] <thomasmckay> avagant: there's debs.
[12:59] <avagant> No but i mean, it froze up on me.
[12:59] <gnomefreak> join it
[12:59] <avagant> Just like Last-exit
[12:59] <avagant> err last.fm
[12:59] <avagant> I've read there are some alsa issues with last.fm
[01:00] <BlueEagle> I've got a lot of multimediakeys that I am unable to assign. Xev doesn't detect them at all. It's a Creative Wireless desktop 6000 keyboard.
[01:00] <thomasmckay> BlueEagle: you may need kernel modules.
[01:00] <avagant> crap, I don't know if it's just a duron or a duron spitfire, well maybe i'll stick with duron.
[01:00] <Abst> Is there a way to 'Lock Screen' in Xubuntu?
[01:01] <iamtheric> dual monitors, two different cards?
[01:01] <BlueEagle> thomasmckay: the acerhk mentioned in the wiki?
[01:01] <avagant> i might as well just try and tar it on my own, even though i'd prefer deb'in it.
[01:01] <thomasmckay> BlueEagle: i don't know i don't use that.
[01:02] <Chelsea> hi all. still learning the 'old linux. I was hoping someone could tell me how to view the output of a program AFTER I run it as a background process? i.e. 'some.sh &' <--how can I retrieve that process and view it's output?
[01:02] <Buglouse> in ftp... how can i get a directory?
[01:02] <Buglouse> instead of going into the dir and getting the files one by one
[01:02] <Buglouse> just transfer the dir to my comp
[01:03] <Chelsea> Bug: i'm guessing that would depend on your client app...
[01:03] <avagant> Crap man, I'm gonna find out if theres debs. BRB
[01:03] <vithos> iLLf8d: `lsmod|grep ne2k` -> "ne2k_pci               12384  0
[01:03] <vithos> 8390                   11904  1 ne2k_pci"
[01:03] <BlueEagle> thomasmckay: ie. it does recognize stop, next, previous, mute, louder, lower, start, mediaplayer and sleep but not www, web stop, refresh, forward, backward, favorites, my computer, calculator and mail.
[01:03] <iamtheric> xfree86 dual monitors
[01:03] <jesper> Hi. I have a ATI Radeon 9200 that I'd really like to get to work on an Ubuntu MythTV box.. But I cannot seem to get TV-out working? Any tips?
[01:03] <avagant> Crap they are for debian.
[01:03] <boink> !language
[01:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:04] <avagant> Crap is a bad word?
[01:04] <thomasmckay> BlueEagle: my ATI Remote Wonder works like a charm, that is because Ubuntu installed a Kernel Module on installation.
[01:04] <vithos> some would say teaching children that words can be good or bad by nature is harmful
[01:04] <ChickenTalons> beef, its cheaper than recycling
[01:04] <avagant> gnomefreak: Would downloading one from debian be harmful?
[01:04] <avagant> gnomefreak: There's a debian section with debs.
[01:05] <gnomefreak> avagant: use wget its fine
[01:05] <gnomefreak> avagant: thats file
[01:05] <gnomefreak> fine
[01:05] <avagant> wget huh...dangit.
[01:05] <FordPrefect> ...but he doesn't really frequent this room :-)
[01:05] <avagant> !wget
[01:05] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 225 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[01:05] <avagant> I don't know how to do that command haha.
[01:05] <avagant> I mean unless it's placed in front of me.
[01:06] <vithos> FordPrefect: yeah, agreed. i just think the repeating it obsessively part is mostly because they know it's "bad" because they pick up on that they weren't supposed to hear it
[01:06] <THX-1138> curl is another good way to do it.
[01:06] <iLLf8d> vithos, find someone else to helpya out
[01:06] <Buglouse> in "FTP" how can i "GET" a directory?  Instead of "GET" <FILE> how can i "GET" <DIR> ?
[01:06] <vithos> iLLf8d: alright, thanks for trying
[01:06] <Xenguy> Buglouse: mget  ?
[01:06] <avagant> Well I'll just click on the download and do it from the site.
[01:06] <avagant> If it boinks anything, I'll just uninstall.
[01:07] <iamtheric> !openmosix
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openmosix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <vithos> anyone? here's the problem:  i have a realtek RLT-8029(AS) pci ethernet card that isn't giving me an eth* device, but i have the ne2k-pci kernel module loaded which is supposed to support it
[01:08] <pyrad> question on upgrade to edgy:
[01:08] <LjL> anyone else cares to look at this sources.list (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26515/), and the way i changed it (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26517/), and why could it be that there's only about 5000 package available after an apt-get update?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> pyrad: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:08] <pyrad> ah ok thanks
[01:09] <gnomefreak> LjL: it looks like you have repos more than once
[01:09] <gnomefreak> LjL: that shouldnt say you have more updates though
[01:09] <avagant> Yah swiftfox ain't working for me for whatever reason, epsecially with my modle.
[01:09] <avagant> model of computer whatever.
[01:09] <avagant> Oh well, firefox it is.
[01:09] <LjL> gnomefreak: actually, now that i'm looking at it again (my version), i'm seeing i've seriously messed up with the "#"... (partly thanks to someone's ridiculously small textbox grrr =)
[01:12] <LjL> gnomefreak: do i actually have duplicates anyway? i'm not sure i do... even though that sources.list *does* have a layout that confuses me a bit
[01:13] <RamiKassab> hey guys I'm having a weird problem... I can't SSH out anymore. Whenever I try to SSH to a server it just sits there trying to connect
[01:13] <RamiKassab> is there a way that perhaps the known_hosts file is messed up?
[01:13] <iamtheric> just look at it
[01:14] <RamiKassab> it looks fine... I don't know how it would look if it were messed up
[01:14] <iamtheric> RamiKassab, is the ssh damen running?
[01:14] <RamiKassab> iamtheric: how do I check to see if it is? I think it is because I can SSH to my local SSH server fine
[01:15] <RamiKassab> iamtheric: I just deleted the know_hosts file and still same problem
[01:15] <iamtheric> RamiKassab, type sshd in the server you want to ssh
[01:15] <iamtheric> RamiKassab, try pinging the host
[01:15] <RamiKassab> iamtheric: oh the sshd daemon is running... I've tried SSHing to multiple external servers that I know are up
[01:16] <cafuego> RamiKassab: sshing to OTHEr machines does not reuire your sshd to be running
[01:16] <gss6> how can i get SMP support in ubuntu?
[01:16] <avagant> Hmm even the instructions on the forum aren't all that clear.
[01:16] <RamiKassab> cafuego: yeah it doesn't require my local sshd to be running but it requires theirs to and they are
[01:17] <RamiKassab> cafuego: but I can ssh into my local sshd but not in external ones
[01:18] <fantasai> nm
[01:18] <fantasai> It just doesn't like empty strings..
[01:18] <iamtheric> RamiKassab, they might not support external ssh's
[01:18] <RamiKassab> iamtheric: I have SSHed into these machines many times before and I know for a fact they do
[01:18] <avagant> Well I got it to work.
[01:18] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: I missed the error you are getting, could you repeat it?
[01:18] <avagant> Haha
[01:19] <iamtheric> RamiKassab, your screwed on that one
[01:19] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: there is no rror that is being reported... SSH just wont work for some reason
[01:19] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: to some machines
[01:19] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: "Won't work...", could you be more specific?
[01:20] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: what does ssh -v <host> show you?
[01:20] <avagant> !swiftfox
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <avagant> Do I have to do the aoss thing with swiftfox?
[01:20] <iamtheric> !evilwm
[01:20] <ubotu> evilwm: a minimalist window manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.21-1 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 104 kB
[01:20] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[01:20] <avagant> Flash is pretty out of sync haha.
[01:20] <Kickaha> Good evening.
[01:21] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: Applying options for *
[01:21] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: Connecting to rejuvenationdayspa.com [207.155.253.151]  port 22.
[01:21] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: and just sticks
[01:21] <Yaakov> OK, so it appears to be a problem at the network level.
[01:21] <Yaakov> Try telnet rejuvenationdayspa.com 22
[01:21] <LjL> !doesn't work
[01:21] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:22] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: If that times out, try traceroute rejuvenationdayspa.com
[01:23] <gu014> does anyone use SageTV?
[01:23] <avagant> Wow out of sync.
[01:23] <Yaakov> You might just have a problem getting to the hosts.
[01:23] <iamtheric> !ion
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: looks like it is going to time out
[01:23] <iamtheric> !ion3
[01:23] <ubotu> ion3: keyboard-friendly window manager with tiled windows (devel). In component universe, is extra. Version 20060107-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1322 kB, installed size 3448 kB
[01:23] <avagant> gnomefreak: is your swiftfox out of sync with youtube?
[01:23] <Kickaha> Would anyone here be willing to recommend where a newbie can find assistance with configuring samba on a ubuntu machine? After hearing the news about WindowsVista, I took the plunge into Ubuntu three months ago, but I'm still having trouble with netwoking on it.
[01:23] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: I was at home earlier and plugged directly into the router and wasn't able to connect either
[01:23] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: to any SSH servers that is
[01:23] <Vuen> kickaha, hol don
[01:23] <Vuen> hold on*
[01:23] <iamtheric> !ratpoison
[01:23] <ubotu> ratpoison: Simple window manager with no fat library dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.0-beta4-8 (dapper), package size 131 kB, installed size 320 kB
[01:23] <Vuen> i'll pastebin my samba config file for ya
[01:23] <Kickaha> Wait a second, please.
[01:24] <Vuen> are you using gnome?
[01:24] <Kickaha> Let me describe my current layout.
[01:24] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: There are a few possibilities: Your upstream provider could be have a problem routing, your upstream provider could be blocking port 22, you could have accidentally firewalled yourself...
[01:24] <Kickaha> Internet (of course) > Dell SPS 400 > network card > crossover cable > Dell 4100 with Ubuntu.
[01:24] <njal> Can anyone help me with an odd grub problem?
[01:24] <chuckyp> iamtheobject, what are you doing?
[01:25] <njal> I need to chainload vista
[01:25] <Kickaha> That's basically how it's arranged.
[01:25] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: If there are webservers on these boxes, can you reach them.
[01:25] <njal> am beta testing it atm
[01:25] <njal> and it's on an old IDE drive
[01:25] <njal> while ubuntu is on SATA
[01:25] <njal> and they not talking right
[01:25] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: yeah I am able to reach them fine... I was able to connect to my SSH box at home just now for a bit
[01:25] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: it was running really slowly though, I think it may be a shotty internet connection issue
[01:25] <Kickaha> the Dell 4100 can see the XPS. But Windows on the XPS complains about accounts and passwords.
[01:25] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: What does traceroute show you?
[01:26] <Kickaha> That's about where I am, more or less.
[01:26] <Vuen> okay
[01:26] <jachyra> hi all, i just installed a module, how can I set up Ubuntu such that this module will load on start up?
[01:26] <Vuen> accounts and passwords is because your samba config file is set to user level authentication
[01:26] <Kickaha> (Frankly, I'm wondering if hiring an assassin to hit Bill Gates is morally acceptable...)
[01:26] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: running right now, had to install it via apt-get
[01:26] <Vuen> open up your smb.conf and find the line security = user
[01:27] <Vuen> change that to security = share and make sure it's not commented
[01:27] <Kickaha> Got it.
[01:27] <eXistenZ> Sprichst du Deutsch?
[01:27] <chuckyp> !de
[01:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:27] <Vuen> then scroll down right to the bottom, where your shares are
[01:27] <Vuen> add the line guest ok = yes
[01:27] <randomas> trying to configure a cups server client pair, printer works locally on server but is not printing from client even though it broadcasts and is recognised correctly. telnet to server 631 fails
[01:27] <Vuen> i'm not sure if that's required, but it's what i've got
[01:28] <Vuen> and that should be all you need
[01:28] <piff> Hi there.  I need help with my nvidia drivers.  Yes, I have followed the instructions, and installed everything I needed to.  I get the nvidia splash screen, and X boots fine.  THe problem is, GL acceleration doesn't work.
[01:28] <piff> Any hints or suggestions?
[01:28] <chuckyp> piff, what type of card
[01:28] <chuckyp> piff, and what do you mean it doesn't work?
[01:28] <piff> nvidia geforce 5200
[01:29] <chuckyp> piff, What application is it not working with or how are you testing that its working?
[01:29] <Vuen> Kickaha, now run firestarter, and add Samba to your inbound traffic polify
[01:29] <Vuen> otherwise your firewall will start blocking it
[01:29] <Kickaha> sorry about the delays.. Minerva and Synergy are connected to the same keyboard and monitor - I have to flip back and forth with a KVM.
[01:29] <piff> It doesn't work in that there is no hardware acceleration - glxgears is not accelerated, and glxinfo doesnt show GL as running.
[01:29] <Vuen> i see
[01:29] <Renan_s2> !midi
[01:29] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[01:30] <piff> I haven't tested acceleration in anything else because I don't have any other OpenGL apps
[01:30] <randomas> piff: is the nvidia glx package installed?
[01:30] <piff> randomas- Yes.
[01:30] <chuckyp> piff, how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[01:30] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: it's taking forever
[01:30] <Buglouse> in "FTP" how do I tell it to display the speed and how much data it has transferred during a transfer?
[01:30] <Kickaha> bother.. there's TWO copies of smb.conf
[01:30] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: You can't reach the machines then.  It is a probably on the net.
[01:31] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: Assuming that you have gone past your own router, that is.
[01:31] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: I'm going to try to connect to a diff wireless router here... I'll be right back. Thanks for the help!
[01:31] <piff> chuckyp- Well, unfortunately, the first time, I installed the drivers using .run package from the nvidia website.  That didn't work, and I uninstalled that.  I tried the directions from an Ubuntu help page which told me to download nvidia-glx, and follow the instructions to modify the xorg.conf file.
[01:31] <Vuen> Kickaha, what are they called and where are they?
[01:31] <Kickaha> one in /ect/samba, and one in /user/share/samba
[01:31] <Vuen> the one in etc/samba is the good one
[01:31] <randomas> anyone manage to get the lacie ethernet mini externall HDD to conect via usb?
[01:31] <Vuen> it's the one you should edit
[01:31] <piff> As I said, I get the nvidia splash screen at X startup.  Everything else seems to work fine, but there is no acceleration.
[01:31] <chuckyp> piff, nah you shouldn't ahve to modify xorg.conf just sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[01:31] <Kickaha> okay, opening it.
[01:31] <avagant> So XMMS keeps freezing on me, really bad.
[01:31] <chuckyp> piff, that should give you all the necessary files.
[01:31] <piff> How else can test for acceleration
[01:32] <avagant> Is this happening to anyone else?
[01:32] <piff> chuckyp- indeed it should.  :(
[01:32] <jachyra> Can someone please tell me how I can load a monule on start-up?
[01:32] <randomas> jachyra: add the module name to /etc/modules
[01:32] <Vuen> Kickaha, http://pastebin.ca/200120
[01:32] <Buglouse> in "FTP" how do I tell it to display the speed and how much data it has transferred during a transfer?
[01:32] <Kickaha> okay, looking for security..
[01:33] <jachyra> randomas: thank you
[01:33] <Kickaha> Should I just cut and paste that into the current smb.conf?
[01:33] <chuckyp> piff, which command are you using for glxinfo ?  glxinfo | grep "?"
[01:33] <avagant> What are other good media players that won't freeze?
[01:33] <piff> lemme find the line
[01:34] <piff> I'm looking at this line from glxinfo: "client glx vendor string: SGI"
[01:34] <piff> That should be nv or nvidia, shouldn't it?
[01:34] <avagant> !mediaplayer
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <chuckyp> piff, Also make sure you are loading the glx module in xorg.conf  under the module section
[01:34] <avagant> !xmms
[01:34] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:34] <Vuen> Kickaha, no, definitely DON'T do that
[01:34] <Vuen> you should modify the appropriate fields in yours
[01:35] <piff> chuckyp- Yep, I did that many times.  I shall check agian.
[01:35] <Kickaha> okay. (found out the hard way to listen first, edit last. ^_^ )
[01:35] <THX-1138> piff - take a peek at nvidia-xconfig
[01:35] <Vuen> do you have a backup?
[01:35] <piff> Yes, 'load   glx' is there.
[01:35] <Kickaha> OKay, found the line...
[01:35] <Kickaha> It reads
[01:35] <chuckyp> piff, also glxinfo | grep direct
[01:35] <avagant> !Quod Libet
[01:35] <randomas> piff: lsmod should give you an entry for nvidia and in your xorg.conf GLcore and dri lines need to commented out in the load section
[01:35] <Kickaha> ;security = user
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Quod Libet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <THX-1138> piff - it will create any xorg.conf you need from one monitor to dual twinview xinerama etc.
[01:36] <avagant> !Quod
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Quod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <Vuen> change user to share and get rid of the semicolon
[01:36] <Vuen> like it is on mine
[01:36] <chuckyp> piff, whats the output of that?
[01:36] <piff> nvidia-xconfig only configures the xorg.conf file.  I have done that.
[01:36] <piff> SOrry, catching up...
[01:37] <randomas> anyone manage to share a printer with cups?
[01:37] <Kickaha> Arhg.. protected read only. Grr.
[01:37] <njal> anyone got any experience with grub?
[01:37] <piff> chuckyp: result of glxinfo | grep direct is --> Direct Rendering: No.
[01:37] <chuckyp> piff, well thats wierd
[01:37] <njal> !grub
[01:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:37] <randomas> njal:what do you need?
[01:37] <piff> chuckyp: I know - it's a tough nut to crack
[01:38] <piff> chuckyp- Maybe it's just glxgears - can you recommend another app
[01:38] <njal> randomas: I have vista installed on an IDE hard drive set to slave and ubuntu install on a master SATA drive and grub is not detecting the other hard drive
[01:38] <chuckyp> piff, what about lsmod | grep nvidia
[01:38] <randomas> piff: armagetron
[01:38] <chuckyp> piff, just see if nvidia is getting loaded
[01:38] <piff> Can I past four lines here?
[01:38] <piff> The result of lsmod | grep nvidia
[01:38] <chuckyp> piff, is there an nvidia line?
[01:38] <piff> Yes, several
[01:39] <chuckyp> hrm...
[01:39] <Kickaha> okay, into the right directory... dammit, can't remember the editor..
[01:39] <chuckyp> why is direct render off
[01:39] <piff> I notice there is i2c - which is not loaded in my xorg.conf
[01:39] <avagant> gnomefreak: Is your swiftfox in flesh all crazy.
[01:39] <avagant> "flash"
[01:39] <chuckyp> piff, yeah I have i2c as well hold up
[01:39] <piff> Tries armagetron
[01:39] <gnomefreak> nope
[01:39] <gnomefreak> avagant: mine works fine
[01:39] <Vuen> Kickaha, you can use nano, or just gedit
[01:39] <chuckyp> piff, however, I have i2c as the first module loaded in my xorg.conf
[01:39] <avagant> gnomefreak: Mine is crazy out of sync.
[01:39] <piff> Yeah... I saw that on a website (sample xorg.conf file for nvidia), but it's not loaded in my xorg.
[01:39] <Kickaha> Ah
[01:39] <Kickaha> Got it.
[01:40] <Kickaha> Password, and... there we go.
[01:40] <gnomefreak> avagant: for the wrong processor?
[01:40] <piff> chuckyp- Ok, will try armagetron first
[01:40] <Vuen> Kickaha,  sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:40] <piff> and then load i2x
[01:40] <piff> i2c
[01:40] <chuckyp> piff, what is armagetron?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> avagant: thats the only thing i can see doing that off hand
[01:40] <piff> chuckyp- 3D Tron cycles game.  :)
[01:40] <djuuss> http://www.sexuality.org/l/incoming/ghaos.html
[01:40] <avagant> :D
[01:40] <Kickaha> Got the right line..
[01:40] <djuuss> ......crap, wrong irc
[01:40] <avagant> It's not bad all the time.
[01:40] <avagant> Do I have aoss it?
[01:41] <Kickaha> delete the ; and change user to share, right?
[01:41] <Vuen> yep
[01:41] <chuckyp> piff, let me search for some stuff real quick.
[01:41] <Vuen> security = user
[01:41] <Vuen> err
[01:41] <njal> randomas: Is it possible to fix?
[01:41] <Vuen> security = share
[01:41] <gnomefreak> avagant: here is the .deb for your proc. http://getswiftfox.com/debian.htm
[01:41] <piff> Thanks Chucky
[01:41] <Kickaha> Done.
[01:41] <avagant> I downloaded the right one...but..
[01:41] <Kickaha> Next step?
[01:41] <Vuen> scroll way down to the bottom, you'll see your shares
[01:41] <randomas> njal: check the original file in /boot/grub/menu should be an entry for other OS: title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[01:41] <randomas> root            (hd0,0)
[01:41] <randomas> savedefault
[01:41] <randomas> makeactive
[01:41] <randomas> chainloader     +1
[01:41] <gnomefreak> avagant: remove it and try that one
[01:41] <Vuen> add guest ok = yes
[01:42] <ianmacgregor> !info guile
[01:42] <ubotu> Package guile does not exist in any distro I know
[01:42] <ianmacgregor> !guile
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <randomas>  njal: change the root (hd0.0) to something more apropriate
[01:42] <Kickaha> commented line reading "Share definitions"?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> ianmacgregor: the package guile is not in the repos
[01:42] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: ok something really weird is going on now
[01:43] <njal> randomas: Which entry is this?
[01:43] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: I am able to connect to some SSH servers but it is not accepting my login credentials even though I know they are correct
[01:43] <piff> lol!
[01:43] <njal> randomas: In fact shall i pastebin my menu.lst?
[01:43] <randomas> should be the last one in file
[01:43] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: Thanks
[01:43] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:43] <piff> Ok, I'm fairly sure GL Is working.  :)  Thanks guys.
[01:43] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: could encryption be off or something? I just have no idea and this is ridiculously frusterating
[01:43] <piff> glxgears just didnt work for some reason
[01:43] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: is traceroute consistent?
[01:43] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: Yes it is
[01:43] <piff> Armagetron runs at 200 FPS
 if not there it's not recognised
[01:44] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: I found it with synaptic
[01:44] <njal> randomas: It kinda is there, but not under default options
[01:44] <gnomefreak> ianmacgregor: no guile is not
[01:44] <Rubyducky> Hello, is there anyway to get a GUI on ubuntu server?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> !info guile1.6
[01:44] <ubotu> Package guile1.6 does not exist in any distro I know
[01:44] <randomas> piff: push all details up and try again
[01:44] <gnomefreak> ack
[01:44] <piff> chuckyp- OK
[01:44] <gnomefreak> !info guile-1.6
[01:44] <ubotu> guile-1.6: The GNU extension language and Scheme interpreter. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6.7-2 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 196 kB
[01:44] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: I'm sitting here looking at guile 1.6 in synaptic
[01:44] <kitche> Rubyducky: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:45] <ianmacgregor> The GNU extension language and Scheme interpreter
[01:45] <randomas> njal: what is the "root" line?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ianmacgregor: the package "guile" is not in repos
[01:45] <Kickaha> All right, I've found the Shares definitions section. There's a commented out section entitled network longon service
[01:45] <Kickaha> Is that it?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ianmacgregor: the package "guile-1.6" is
[01:45] <Kickaha> logon, drat it..
[01:45] <gnomefreak> with a bunch of others
[01:45] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: guile 1.4 is in the repos.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> not in mine :)
[01:45] <RamiKassab> Yaakov: I think I fixed it... don't know how... but I think I fixed it
[01:45] <ianmacgregor> It's in universe
[01:45] <Rubyducky> kitche: Is it already installed, I don't need any extra disks or anything?
[01:45] <kitche> Rubyducky: it will pull from the net
[01:46] <Vuen> Kickaha, nope
[01:46] <gnomefreak> yep it is also in mine i didnt scroll far enough
[01:46] <randomas> help sharing a printer with cups?  please?
[01:46] <Vuen> look at the samba config file i pastebinned for you
[01:46] <Rubyducky> thank you
[01:46] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: How come the bot says it's not?
[01:46] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: From what I can gather, you are having network-related problems, probably concerning your upstream's connection to its NAP.
[01:46] <Vuen> that's the one on my computer, set up to share with a bunch of winxp comps
[01:46] <Kickaha> drat.. okay, what am I looking for?
[01:46] <TomChire> !at
[01:46] <ubotu> at: Delayed job execution and batch processing. In component main, is standard. Version 3.1.9ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 208 kB
[01:46] <Yaakov> RamiKassab: I would expect it to clear up.
[01:46] <gnomefreak> ianmacgregor: my point is the bot only knows package names
[01:46] <Vuen> Kickaha, at the very bottom is the list of shares
[01:46] <gnomefreak> ianmacgregor: the package "guile" is nnot in the repos
[01:46] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: Ooohh, ok
[01:46] <piff> chuckyp- 70/80 fps.  GL is definitely working.  Thanks for your help!
[01:46] <ianmacgregor> !guile-1.6
[01:46] <ubotu> guile-1.6: The GNU extension language and Scheme interpreter. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6.7-2 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 196 kB
[01:46] <Vuen> add guest ok = yes to them
[01:46] <piff> And everybody else...
[01:46] <Kickaha> This bit?
[01:46] <njal> randomas: Ok there is no windows entry in my default options, but the root for ubuntu (which is obviously in my defualt options is (hd1,0)
[01:46] <Kickaha> #
[01:46] <Kickaha> [Music] 
[01:46] <Kickaha> #
[01:46] <Kickaha> path = /media/data/Music
[01:46] <Kickaha> #
[01:46] <Kickaha> guest ok = yes
[01:46] <Vuen> yep
[01:47] <gnomefreak> Kickaha: use pastebin please
[01:47] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: Thank you for explaining that.. that helps me :)
[01:47] <Kickaha> Add that to
[01:47] <Kickaha> sorry,
[01:47] <piff> njal- Is Windows on your second hard-disk?
[01:47] <Kickaha> the bottom of my conf file?
[01:47] <Vuen> yes
[01:47] <njal> Yes
[01:47] <Vuen> for whatever you want to share
[01:47] <chuckyp> piff, how'd you get render yes?
[01:47] <njal> I have XP on a third hard disk but I don't think vista saw it either
[01:47] <Kickaha> Sorry about the paste. wasn't aware of the pastebin thing.
[01:48] <gnomefreak> Kickaha: its in the topic
[01:48] <piff> chuckyp- It was working all along - it's just that glxgears is broken for some reason.  It's definitely 3d accelerated.
[01:48] <foo> I am locking down ubuntu .. can I set perms to 650 on dirs in / ?
[01:48] <Kickaha> Can't see all the topic, just the firs t few words.
[01:48] <ianmacgregor> picky bot
[01:48] <randomas> njal: at bottom of the file add these lines
[01:48] <randomas> title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[01:48] <randomas> root            (hd0,0)
[01:48] <randomas> savedefault
[01:48] <randomas> makeactive
[01:48] <randomas> chainloader     +1
[01:48] <mOrO^> when I boot up the install CD I burned I get the following.... [DR-DOS]  A:\... I do a cd to where my ISO image is located and I get the contents as UBUNTU- 6 ISO.
[01:48] <foo> randomas: Please don't do that.
[01:48] <thomas_> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:48] <piff> njal- Windows is not happy being on anything other than the first hd
[01:49] <Kickaha> oo. Nice. wish my regular IRC channel had that.
[01:49] <piff> njal- Have a look at the grub 'swap' command
[01:49] <gnomefreak> randomas: dont paste in here use pastebin please
[01:49] <Kickaha> Authors paste a LOT.
[01:49] <randomas> njal: change the root (hd0,0) to the right drive, first number is drive second is partition
[01:49] <piff> I recently installed a tri-boot system
[01:49] <njal> I hear SATA don't like being slave drives either
 ok, sorry how do I do that?
[01:49] <piff> Anyway, I'm off
[01:49] <Vuen> Kickaha, it's not a part of the channel... anyone can use pastebin
[01:49] <piff> Thanks again chuckyp and everyone else who helped.
[01:49] <thomas_> okay guys, i've figured out what the problem is with my xorg. fglrx is expecting a different version of xorg (7.0) than is installed (7.1) however, checking synaptics tells me there is no 7.1. Can somebody help me remedy this error?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> !pastebin > randomas
[01:49] <mOrO^> can anyone help?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> randomas: please see your pm from ubotu
[01:50] <gnomefreak> Kickaha: go to pastebin.com and you can have one with whatever name you want
 thanks
[01:51] <Kickaha> THANK you! The members of the ATV writing forum will worship you to the end of time. ^_^
[01:51] <Vuen> Kickaha, don't use pastebin.com, it's way too slow
[01:51] <Vuen> use pastebin.ca
[01:51] <njal> randomas: done
[01:51] <njal> but there is still no windows entry
[01:51] <thomas_> pastebin.ca = canadian site. its not our fault .com is too busy!
[01:51] <randomas> njal: if you added the lines it should be there!!!???
[01:52] <Kickaha> Will do. And thanks! That will be VERY useful, as Skeet and I are working on a novel that is already 200,000 words long and not finished.
[01:52] <Vuen> duh, just because you're in the states doesn't mean you can't use the canadian site genius
[01:52] <freemind> holycow, hello
[01:52] <Vuen> the .ca domain is no reason to avoid it
[01:52] <mOrO^> Im having a problem getting my ISO image to boot up.
[01:52] <walvaro> Hi
[01:52] <walvaro> HIHIHI!
[01:52] <randomas> njal: at the grub prompt enter the lines manually and see what happens
[01:52] <freemind> is someone running RAID5 ins premptive mode?
[01:52] <walvaro> where can i get codecs for audio/video
[01:52] <njal> randomas: So i just copy the windows stuff from the examples and add them into default options?
[01:52] <Kickaha> Okay, got my gnutella downloads directory at the bottom of the list, and I've set it to guest = ok.
[01:52] <Vuen> !codecs
[01:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:52] <walvaro> to ubuntu?=
[01:53] <Kickaha> Do I want to set browsable = ok?
[01:53] <Vuen> yes
[01:53] <walvaro> !codecs
[01:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:53] <holycow> freemind, bonjour
[01:53] <randomas> njal: nope default options you don't touch it's only for automatically built linux entries
[01:54] <randomas> njal: you want to add lines after the automagically reated entries
[01:54] <edju> Anyone know where I might pick up a deb file for libdvdcss?
[01:54] <Kickaha> All right, it's now browsable, available and public set to okay. writable is set to no.
[01:54] <Kickaha> save the conf file?
[01:54] <thomas_> !codecs
[01:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:54] <Vuen> yep
[01:55] <Vuen> edju, it should be in the repositories
[01:55] <thomas_> its not.
[01:55] <Vuen> are you sure?
[01:55] <randomas> edju: use automatix to fix codec and playback issues
[01:55] <thomas_> yes.
[01:55] <Kickaha> Nest step?
[01:55] <thomas_> no don't use automatix
[01:55] <Kickaha> next step, even?
[01:55] <thomas_> read the codecs page.
[01:55] <Vuen> next step, you need to restart samba, type this:
[01:55] <Vuen> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:55] <kitche> Vuen: it's illegal to have in certain countries
[01:56] <thomas_> which is why its not in repositories.
[01:56] <thomas_> any repositories.
[01:56] <njal> randomas: I am a bit confused http://pastebin.ca/200155 see the link, do i put an entry after the line ##end default options##
[01:56] <njal> to windows
[01:56] <thomas_> however, ubuntu provided a link to a .deb, for those who live in countries where it isn't illegal.
[01:56] <njal> forgive me, i have wrestled with grub in the past but never in great detail so perhaps what i think i know is confusing mer
[01:56] <Vuen> kitche, this is true
[01:56] <thomas_> edju: read the codecs page, it will help you.
[01:57] <Vuen> which countries is it illegal in?
[01:57] <Kickaha> ack. "Command not found."
[01:57] <Vuen> typed it wrong
[01:57] <Vuen> use tab for completion
[01:57] <Vuen> like, type sudo /etc/ini  then hit tab
[01:57] <randomas> njal: add lines after ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[01:57] <Vuen> and so on
[01:57] <kitche> Vuen: US is one
[01:57] <Vuen> kitche, mmm
[01:57] <rbonnin> Hi! Do you know any utility to repair zip files?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> rbonnin: 7zip
[01:58] <gnomefreak> !zip
[01:58] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:58] <njal> randomas: and it would be root(hd1,0)
[01:58] <Kickaha> grrr.. just a little system beep when I hit tab..
 that depends on what disc and partition it's on
[01:59] <Vuen> Kickaha, that's because there are multiple entries. hit it twice.
[01:59] <Vuen> if nothing comes up, you typed it wrong so far, so backspace
[01:59] <njal> randomas: slave hard drive partition 1
 and definitely different from your linux entry
[02:00] <gnomefreak> Kickaha: and your using dapper?
[02:00] <Kickaha> grr. just two beeps.
[02:00] <Kickaha> yes, dapper.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[02:00] <njal> ok well I think  it's all correct, so time to bite the bullet
[02:00] <Vuen> kickaha, show me the command you're typing
 that should do it
[02:01] <ssdd534> ok need some serious help... my ubuntu server just went down hard... (http, ircd, sshd)... i can ping it but i get no response from any of the servers even after a reboot and reinst of apache.. any help would be a god send..
[02:01] <Kickaha> " sudo /ect/ini.d/samba restart "
[02:01] <gnomefreak> Kickaha: init.d?
[02:01] <chuckyp> ssdd534, did you check any of the log files or dmesg?  and are you local to the machine?
[02:02] <Kickaha> I feel so stupid.. like it's 1980 again and I've got my first 6502 machine..
[02:02] <ssdd534> chuckyp, im not sure where logs are and yes im local to it
[02:02] <Kickaha> OI. forgot the T
[02:02] <Vuen> etc, not ect
[02:02] <Kickaha> I'll try again.
[02:02] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:02] <gnomefreak> and etc
[02:02] <chuckyp> ssdd534, /var/log   but I would check dmesg first
[02:02] <ssdd534> k
[02:02] <gnomefreak> missed that one ty Vuen
[02:02] <akonkwa> does anyone know how I can mount a usb har drive?
[02:03] <Kickaha> grr. still command not found.
[02:03] <chuckyp> ssdd534, type in dmesg  and see what sort of errors at the bottom.
 it should be automatic when you plug it in
[02:03] <gnomefreak> Kickaha: and you fixed ect to read etc
[02:03] <Vuen> kickaha, etc not ect
[02:03] <Vuen> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[02:03] <akonkwa> randomas,  but what if it doesn't show up?
[02:03] <ssdd534> chuckyp, alls thats there is the stuff from the reboot i did after it went down
[02:04] <gnomefreak> Kickaha: hint: copy and paste the command :)
[02:04] <Vuen> it's on a different computer
[02:04] <Vuen> but with the same keyboard and mouse
[02:04] <Vuen> heh
[02:04] <gnomefreak> oh
[02:04] <Kickaha> booyah! "stopping samba daemons / starting samba daemons " message!
[02:04] <chuckyp> ssdd534, any errors?
[02:04] <Vuen> yeah. he's having quite an adventure
 try lsusb and lsmod|grep usb and seewhat happens
[02:04] <Vuen> Kickaha, now try it out
[02:04] <gnomefreak> Vuen: i see this
[02:04] <Kismet> hey, i'm trying to use the 6.06 LiveCD, and I keep getting:  hdd: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:04] <randomas> ok late got to go bye
[02:05] <chuckyp> ssdd534, the best bet is problably do a dmesg -c then reboot so you get a clean vesion.  You can see what's erroring etc... also did you have all these services set to start on boot?
[02:05] <chuckyp> Kismet, did you check the cd for errors?
[02:05] <ssdd534> chuckyp, they start on boot ill try the reboot with a clean dmesg
[02:05] <akonkwa> randomas,  It displays  some text in the terminal I don't undrstand
[02:05] <Kismet> chuckyp: not yet. i have 2, figured one of the two would work
[02:05] <chuckyp> ssdd534, that way its a little easier to read.
[02:06] <Kickaha> Now let's see if the bitched up s#itball of windows can find the directory..
[02:06] <chuckyp> Kismet, I would do that or try burning at a slower speed what type of hdd do you have?
[02:06] <chuckyp> Kismet, ide, sata?
[02:06] <Kismet> IDE/PATA
[02:07] <Kickaha> grr.. "Edward-desktop not accessible, network path not found."
[02:07] <chuckyp> Kismet, yeah that would be the only things I would try 1) Burn at slower speed i.e. 4x  2) Check the media.    You could do either order.
[02:07] <Vuen> Kickaha, try using your ip address
[02:07] <Kickaha> Think they'd convict me if I strangled Bill Gates?
[02:07] <darling_jewel> my shutdown and reboot seems to not be working.  i can logout but that's it.  i'm still browsing to see if i can fix it on my own but i wonder if anyone else has had this happen?
[02:07] <Vuen> in the address bar in windows type \\169.254.###.###
[02:08] <Vuen> whatever the linux box's ip is
[02:08] <chuckyp> Kismet, maybe check launchpad for a bug with your ide controller thats another option.  But if you have pretty standard hardware mostlikly a problem with the media.
[02:08] <chuckyp> darling_jewel, did you install xgl?
[02:08] <Kickaha> arg.
[02:08] <darling_jewel> i believe so
[02:08] <Vuen> Kickaha, run gksudo firestarter
[02:08] <Kismet> thanks, chuckyp
[02:09] <chuckyp> darling_jewel, well its a known issue with xgl compiz that it removes the options to shutdown and reboot from gnomes menu.  You have to logout then shutdown from the login screen.
[02:09] <Kismet> don't harm Gates, he's finally putting money in a good place. Strangle the new MS Oligarchs
[02:09] <Vuen> then go policy, choose inbound traffic policy, and in the bottom half add Samba
[02:09] <Kickaha> can't find the ip.
[02:10] <chuckyp> Kickaha, well thinking that your odds are pretty high that some MS users will be on the jury.
[02:10] <Vuen> Kickaha, gksudo firestarter, then go policy, choose inbound traffic policy, and in the bottom half add Samba
[02:10] <darling_jewel> ah ok.  i don't suppose removing compiz will help?
[02:10] <chuckyp> darling_jewel, yeah it will bring it back to normal.
[02:11] <chuckyp> darling_jewel, or atleast the window decorator or something can't remember what actually caused it but I know thats why its happening.
[02:11] <THX-1138> chuckyp - would it be safe to script  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo shutdown -f now ?
[02:11] <Kickaha> firestarter fire-started.
[02:11] <Vuen> then hit apply policy
[02:11] <Vuen> actually just go to status and turn the whole firewall off
[02:11] <Vuen> it's not like you need it
[02:11] <darling_jewel> i think i'll give that a shot.  i like to keep the desktop without too many frills.
[02:12] <chuckyp> THX-1138, what is -f option?  i've always used -h
[02:12] <ssdd534> chuckyp, well after the reboot im seeing no major errors
[02:12] <Kickaha> firewall stopped.
[02:12] <MrFeetio> !edgyeft
[02:12] <Vuen> now try it
[02:12] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:12] <chuckyp> ssdd534, hrm... are the services running atleast?
[02:12] <Kickaha> BOOYAH!
[02:13] <Vuen> :)
[02:13] <chuckyp> THX-1138, is that some sort of force switch?
[02:13] <Vuen> now make sure that firewall is set up properly
[02:13] <Kickaha> gnutella downloads and the printer service just came up!
[02:13] <ssdd534> chuckyp, no they are all still down
[02:13] <rambo3> recomand a good ftp program
[02:13] <Vuen> because if it's not, and the firewall decides to turn itself on again, samba will stop working in a day
[02:13] <ssdd534> still pingable
[02:13] <THX-1138> filesytem check - why is it compiz is so picky about shutdown? why remove that function.
[02:13] <chuckyp> ssdd534, when you say they are down does that mean they are not running or not responding?
[02:13] <Kickaha> okay, I'll go back to firestarter..
[02:14] <darling_jewel> oh, speaking of edgy... will there be a way to upgrade from dapper thru automatix or synaptic?  i just started with dapper ubuntu so it's still fairly new to me
[02:14] <DragonKing27> need hep installing a Sound Blaster 16 on 6.06 LTS
[02:14] <ssdd534> chuckyp, im assuming connection refused is not responding? i saw apache init on boot.... so i guess no response
[02:14] <Kickaha> okay, in firestarter, and in the inbound policy tab.
[02:14] <DragonKing27> *help
[02:15] <specialbuddy> whats a good program for getting images from a .mov file
[02:15] <Vuen> Kickaha, in the bottom half, add Samba
[02:15] <Vuen> specialbuddy, vlc should be able to do it
[02:15] <chuckyp> ssdd534, well ps aux | grep apache
[02:15] <DragonKing27> I need help urgently for installing a Sound Blaster 16 on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake.
[02:15] <specialbuddy> like frame by frame?
[02:16] <Vuen> exporting all the frames?
[02:16] <Vuen> then no :(
[02:16] <Vuen> sorry
[02:16] <morla> Pine drives me bloody crazy
[02:16] <MrFeetio> darling_jewel: if i remember from breezy to dapper it is part of the updater
[02:16] <morla> anyone here use Pine with IMAP?
[02:16] <THX-1138> !sound
[02:16] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:16] <lansing> how come my computer lags wen iam runnin nicotine it dont wen its not
[02:16] <ssdd534> chuckyp, what is this showing me?
[02:16] <specialbuddy> is there a way to export frames
[02:16] <Kickaha> port number?
[02:17] <chuckyp> ssdd534, should show you if apache currently running
[02:17] <DragonKing27> ubotu: it wont let me open sound controk
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it wont let me open sound controk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <DragonKing27> *control
[02:17] <DragonKing27> sorry
[02:17] <ssdd534> chuckyp, it would appear from this that t is
[02:18] <chuckyp> ssdd534, it should show atleast two line one with the "grep apache" that we ran and the other that was started on system start that should say "apache"
[02:18] <THX-1138> DragonKing27: Someone here likely knows the fix.
[02:18] <darling_jewel> ah, good stuff.  i'm dual booting between xp and dapper so i can get used to everything but once vista gets to be common for the m$ geeks, i'd rather dump everything m$ at that point and stay with ubuntu.  i tried to keep my hardware mostly non intel and non ms as much as i can =)
[02:18] <i_is_two> is there an sftp client on the ubuntu live cd?
[02:18] <chuckyp> darling_jewel, i'm in the same boat I refuse to buy vista or upgrade xp is the last ms software i will own.
[02:18] <i_is_two> i am using it now and would like to use sftp
[02:18] <holycow> darling_jewel, just read the slashdot article on ms licencing they are comming out with
[02:18] <holycow> >_>
[02:19] <holycow> its going to be a blood bath
[02:19] <ssdd534> chuckyp, ok none show just apache they show directories but not that
[02:19] <Kickaha> i've got the "add new inbound rule" window. I just typed in samba - what do I use for a port number? or do I leave it blank?
[02:19] <Vuen> i_is_two, there sure is. if not just install ssh
[02:19] <DragonKing27> THX-1138: i know theres a bug in GNOME for this. in /etc/ , i cant find /modules/. I even tried CTRL+H to show hidden.
[02:19] <libervisco> uHi
[02:19] <JavaDeveloper> Hello, how do I add a program in startup service in terminal? is there a specific command to add it to init.d?
[02:19] <libervisco> Any musicians here?
[02:19] <chuckyp> ssdd534, here paste the output of this "ps aux | grep apache"   no quotes if its more than three lines just put it on pastebin
[02:19] <Samuli^> libervisco, yes.
[02:20] <libervisco> What sequencer do you use?
[02:20] <DragonKing27> Vista is cool.
[02:20] <darling_jewel> yeah, i'm sorta of hoping the high cost and all the anti-piracy crap will drive people to linux.  i'm doing alright with dapper and it sounds like edgy will be quite the improvement
[02:20] <libervisco> I wanted to try Dino, but it requires a newer jack than in Dapper
[02:20] <DragonKing27> Ubuntu is cooler.
[02:20] <chuckyp> darling_jewel, yeah edgy is pretty nice
[02:20] <i_is_two> whats it called?
[02:20] <DragonKing27> Windows , Vienna , Linux , what else?
[02:20] <Samuli^> libervisco, pro tools :)
[02:21] <OmniD> Does it store all of the notes somewhere or is there someway to backup the notes in Tomboy?
[02:21] <libervisco> Samuli^, pro tools?
[02:21] <Samuli^> libervisco, for linux only thing good is ardour and is not a sequencer.. yet.
[02:21] <libervisco> ah
[02:21] <darling_jewel> i tried slackware back when it was in pre-release... went a few years dabbling and now i love ubuntu.  installed it, and it just works nicely.
[02:22] <libervisco> Samuli^, well I happen to know some other things that are good, I'm just looking for a suitable sequencer :)
[02:22] <chuckyp> ssdd534, also what changed that broke this?  i.e. what were you doing was it ever working etc...
[02:22] <Samuli^> libervisco, yeah, not on my ubuntu box though. There is no good sequencer for linux as far as I know. You might try rosegarden though, see if it suits your needs.
[02:22] <DragonKing27> SOUND BLASTER 16
[02:22] <DragonKing27> HELP!
[02:22] <Kickaha> It "just works" for me too - when I know what I'm doing and don't have my head up my arse.
[02:22] <Vuen> i_is_two, sudo apt-get install ssh, or just use synaptic
[02:22] <Samuli^> libervisco, good is a subjective thing :)
[02:22] <lansing> how can i put my  system moniter in my task bar?
[02:22] <libervisco> Samuli^, yeah, tried Rosegarden and I'll probably play with it more, but Dino sounds better suited
[02:23] <sadewr> damn, got netscape 7.02 installing
[02:23] <sadewr> it worked
[02:23] <DragonKing27> Netscape?
[02:23] <nba> gud morning room, sos pls..
[02:23] <Kickaha> Most of my problems with Ubuntu are caused by the idiot behind the keyboard.
[02:23] <DragonKing27> wheres Firefox?
[02:23] <cafuego> DragonKing27: Install it, configure it with pnpdump/isapnp if needed, load driver.
[02:23] <chuckyp> sadewr, what'd you use wine?  or did they update there linux installer finally?
[02:23] <sadewr> I tried executing the installing script in the super user terminal and it worked
[02:23] <ssdd534> chuckyp, im puting the grep up onto pastebin.. ill link in a moment... i use the apache server for streaming media.. i was streaming when it just broke...
[02:23] <darling_jewel> you know what they say.... intel inside, idiot outside =)
[02:23] <DragonKing27> caduego: i did... :(
[02:23] <Samuli^> libervisco, but really, I don't feel that you'll find anything as good as you can get on windows until ardour gets its act together and pulls out sequencer support.
[02:23] <railz> where do i change the actual name of the machine?
[02:24] <nba> how to mount cd in the terminal, i try mounting it the ususal way but it doesn't mounting
[02:24] <railz> I'd like to rename it in troubleshooting a samba issue
[02:24] <kitche> !hostname
[02:24] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[02:24] <sadewr> So
[02:24] <chuckyp> ssdd534, and ssh broke also at the same time?
[02:24] <libervisco> Samuli^, watch me ;)
[02:24] <libervisco> Samuli^, I'm not going back to windows no matter what :D
[02:24] <chuckyp> ssdd534, if thats the case maybe its a network/ network card issue?
[02:24] <sadewr> Super Terminal is uh... like root user?
[02:24] <DragonKing27> Terminal : Super User Mode
[02:24] <Kickaha> Darling - I'm willing to bet if y'all took the ages of the three youngest people here, I'd be as old as all three put together. ^_^
[02:25] <DragonKing27> apt-get moo - Have you mooed today?
[02:25] <agaming> I have a quick question(I hope it's quick) about authentication for an apache server
[02:25] <nba> the error says "UNABLE TO MOUNT THE SELECTED VOLUME.  THE VOLUME IS PROBABLY IN A FORMAT THAT CANNOT BE MOUNTED."
[02:25] <ssdd534> chuckyp, but i can ping the computer and make outgoing connections from it
[02:25] <Abst> Anyone know a good podcast client?
[02:25] <sadewr> netscape 7 isnt the newest one, but at least is much better than sticking with 4.0
[02:25] <grackiwi> why does document viewer's window title display "Microsoft Word - <document title>" when it opens pdf documents?
[02:25] <sadewr> downloading at 30kbs
[02:25] <sadewr> phew
[02:25] <agaming> I have it setup with auth_sys_group mod and it asks for the u/p but just keeps asking if you put in the info. Any ideas why this might be bouncing that back
[02:25] <nba> i'm trying to mount my audio cd to listen to music
[02:25] <chuckyp> ssdd534, but no incoming?
[02:25] <Kickaha> grr.. I can't figure out the ports that the firewall wants for Samba..
[02:25] <grackiwi> Document Viewer is most certainly not Microsoft Word, so what gives?
[02:25] <sadewr> at least its not stuck at 6kbs like all downloads
[02:25] <chuckyp> ssdd534, firewall or something?
[02:26] <mubuntu> can someone help me with getting quicktime to work in browser
[02:26] <holycow> grackiwi, because word had the shitty adobe pdf export plugin  installed and ms word was used to create it ... its the name of the doc actually
[02:26] <Kickaha> on the other hand, as long as the firewall's down, samba's working fine.
[02:26] <ssdd534> chuckyp, i dont think its firewall issues.. the server worked for several months untill now
[02:26] <darling_jewel> well, with that said... lol... thanks for the answers to my questions.  i'll be back to chat and try and help.  take care all
[02:26] <grackiwi> Ohh, okay. That makes sense, even if it stupid. Thanks holycow.
[02:26] <sadewr> i think netscape has stopped supporting linux. Netscape 8 isnt available for linux
[02:26] <nba> thanks in advance
[02:27] <holycow> grackiwi, well windows users tend to fall into that category, yes
[02:27] <chuckyp> ssdd534, thats what i'm saying something recently changed we just have to figure otu what.
[02:27] <dasgoat> hello?
[02:27] <Kickaha> Vuen, would you be terribly offended if I just accepted the small victory I have, thank you profusely, and come back tomorrow to learn how to tame Firestarter? ^_^
[02:27] <chuckyp> ssdd534, how long was the server up
[02:27] <ssdd534> chuckyp, 13 days before the crash
[02:27] <kitche> Kickaha you mean tame iptables
[02:28] <sadewr> now I got a problem
[02:28] <kitche> Kickaha firestarter is just a gui frontend to iptables
[02:28] <sadewr> my linux doesnt come with cd burner program
[02:28] <chuckyp> ssdd534, well if the service is running I would just check the config but if all your network services just stopped working at once.  That would lead me to believe there is an interface problem or firewall or something.
[02:28] <mubuntu> does anyone know how to get quicktime working in browsers??
[02:28] <Kickaha> *nods* I understand that, but it's been a LONG time since I wrestled with a CLI. A long, LONG time.
[02:28] <Vuen> Kickaha, you don't need to set up firestarter if you just leave your firewall off
[02:28] <chuckyp> mubuntu, doesn't mplayer handle quicktime
[02:28] <Vuen> just remember that if your file sharing breaks, it's the firewall
[02:29] <Kickaha> As in, the last time I fought with a CLI, the Commodore 64 was cutting edge state of the art.
[02:29] <Kickaha> ^_^
[02:29] <ssdd534> chuckyp, isnt there some init thing or somthing that would control all of those services.. that if it broke would lead to this?
[02:29] <holycow> Kickaha, i think vuen is assuming that you are BEHIND some type of firewall device that might be present in say a Linksys router for example
[02:29] <Vuen> no no no
[02:29] <i_is_two> what is an sftp client i can use on ubuntu live cd?
[02:29] <holycow> you aren't directly on the raw net connection, ARE YOU?
[02:29] <Vuen> *sigh*
[02:29] <Vuen> he doesn't have a net connection at all
[02:30] <Vuen> hence, he doesn't need a firewall
[02:30] <holycow> even better :)
[02:30] <holycow> what Vuen said
[02:30] <Kickaha> Vuen's right. My system looks like this, okay?
[02:30] <Vuen> he's connected two computers together with a crossover
[02:30] <chuckyp> ssdd534, well there would be an init for each of them the only one that would efect them all would be the network interface
[02:30] <ssdd534> leme change out the card
[02:30] <Kickaha> Internet > Xps400 (Synergy) > crossover cable > Dell 4100 (Minerva, Ubuntu)
[02:30] <i_is_two> i tried apt-get install gftp and it didnt work
[02:30] <i_is_two> said no such package
[02:31] <chuckyp> ssdd534, I'm kind of at a loss perhaps someone else can shed some light on it though.
[02:31] <mubuntu> chuckyp: shouldn't it work with totem in browser?? Maybe I don't have quicktime codecs??
[02:31] <Vuen> i_is_two, apt-get install ssh
[02:31] <Vuen> then you can sftp
[02:31] <Kismet> okay, I got this DVD-RW drive just 12 months ago, how can it be failing?
[02:31] <ssdd534> chuckyp, well thank you for your time.. youve put me closer than i was
[02:31] <chuckyp> mubuntu, I know one of them will play it.  Not sure which one.
[02:31] <mubuntu> chuckyp: doesn't mplayer use a lot of resources??
[02:31] <chuckyp> ssdd534, np
[02:31] <i_is_two> Vuen, i did that whats the command to get a file is it just get?
[02:31] <chuckyp> !quicktime
[02:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:31] <nba> anybody who read my problem?
[02:31] <Vuen> no, it's scp
[02:31] <Kickaha> Minerva can see the net THRU Synergy, thanks to Internet connection sharing, but she's not connected directly to the net.
[02:31] <Vuen> to get a file
[02:32] <Vuen> but to actually connect with ftp, use sftp
[02:32] <Kickaha> She's got Synergy standing between her and the net.
[02:32] <Vuen> to browse, get multiple files, etc
[02:32] <mubuntu> chuckyp:  I know toetem does.  Im trying to figure out how to get the codecs.
[02:32] <Kickaha>  I hope that didn't sound half as confusing to you as it did to me... oi.
[02:32] <mubuntu> chuckyp: thanks
[02:32] <chuckyp> nba, You should just be able to put the cd in the drive and it should auto mount it.
[02:32] <Ximoo> hi there
[02:32] <chuckyp> mubuntu, did you get the link from ubotu
[02:33] <Ximoo> i am trying to get snort to work with ubuntu
[02:33] <sadewr> a cd burning soft is all I need
[02:33] <Samuli^> libervisco. still there?
[02:33] <Vuen> sadewr, sudo apt-get install k3b
[02:33] <Ximoo> can i get help here?
[02:33] <nba> chuckyyp: it does'nt mount, that's wat i did
[02:33] <libervisco> Samuli^, yeah
[02:33] <Samuli^> libervisco, admirable attitude, dude :)
[02:33] <Ximoo> acidbase is not showing up on localhost and this problem is ubuntu related
[02:33] <chuckyp> nba, does the cdrom drive work with other cds?
[02:33] <deamon> hi to allz
[02:33] <nba> chuckyp: is there other way of mounting the cd?
[02:33] <deamon> ^^
[02:34] <nba> chuckyp: yes
[02:34] <sadewr> uh on
[02:34] <libervisco> hehe thanks Samuli^
[02:34] <sadewr> I got a conflict between two glibc_base versions
[02:34] <dasgoat> Just a basic yes/ no answer. Has anyone gotten 64bit crossover office to work with Quicken 2006?
[02:34] <Samuli^> lol
[02:34] <chuckyp> nba, you can mount it manually with a sudo mount /dev/locationofdevice  <options>
[02:34] <deamon> how known to condivide a internet connection to ubuto and windows cp (the modem is installed to ubuntu os)
[02:35] <deamon> xp*
[02:35] <chuckyp> nba, do you know how the cd drive is hooked up to your machine i.e. /hda  /hdb  etc...
[02:35] <libervisco> Samuli^, http://linuxaudio.org/en/music/index.html :)
[02:35] <libervisco> all linux made
[02:35] <refnumzx> hey i am running edgy or rather just dist-upgraded to it and when i rebooted the system the entire boot process failed because it went to some other way of renaming devices, but it failed miserably, anyway to fix this?
[02:35] <nba> chuckyp: can u give me the exact command coz i'm  a newbie to linux
[02:35] <Vuen> refnumzx, ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <deamon> nothing
[02:36] <chuckyp> nba, well do you know how to use pastebin?
[02:36] <deamon> =\
[02:36] <nba> and i don't know the different commands
[02:36] <Kickaha> Vuen? Minerva is cheerfully allowing Synergy access to all the pr0.. err.. MUSIC! Yeah, right.. all the MUSIC in the shared directory, as long as the firewall is down.
[02:36] <nba> chuckyp: nope
[02:36] <Vuen> that's interesting. i have no idea what minerva or synergy are.
[02:36] <grodius> Does anyone know if the EasyUbuntu repositories are down or something? I'm trying to setup another comp with all their stuff and the download keeps getting screwed up.
[02:36] <Vuen> sorry :(
[02:36] <chuckyp> nba, see if the drive shows up in System > Administrations > Disks  You should be able to mount it in there I believe
[02:37] <Kickaha> Minerva = Ubuntu machine. Synergy = WindowsXP system.
[02:37] <Vuen> ahh.
[02:37] <Ximoo> cam i get help about snort/base here?
[02:37] <Kickaha> SHODAN, unfortunately, is still down until I scavage parts for her..
[02:37] <sadewr> NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:37] <Vuen> well isn't that what you want?
[02:37] <nba> chuckyp: yes, it shows up
[02:37] <Vuen> i'm confused
[02:37] <chuckyp> nba, is there an option to mount it in there?
[02:37] <sadewr> Error while installing netscape 7. couldnt load a certain library
[02:38] <chuckyp> nba, You'll have to forgive me i'm in edgy so my screen is completely different
[02:38] <Kickaha> Yep! You've got my machines networking together, and I am VERY grateful.
[02:38] <nba> chuckyp: no, there's no option
[02:38] <Vuen> no prob
[02:38] <nba> chuckyp: it's ok
[02:38] <Kickaha> Now I know how to add shares, the rest is just learning.
[02:38] <Kickaha> A LOT of learning, granted.. ^_^
[02:38] <Vuen> now that you have it set up, you can add shares right out of gnome
[02:38] <Kickaha> *nods*
[02:38] <Vuen> you shouldn't need to go back to the config file anymore
[02:39] <Kickaha> Hell, I don't think I'll EVER boot Minerva into Windows again. Ubuntu is now doing *everything* I want it to, thanks to your help.
[02:40] <Vuen> Kickaha, no problem.
[02:40] <Vuen> yeah, Samba was one of the biggest obstacles for me too when switching over to ubuntu
[02:40] <Vuen> i'm glad i could save someone else the headache
[02:40] <nba> chuckyp: error says "mount:block device /dev/hdb is write protected, mounting read only;  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb, missing codepage or other error in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg l tail or so
[02:40] <chuckyp> nba, thats when you try to mount it?
[02:40] <Kickaha> *nods* There's something on the Wiki about the Ubuntu team MAYBE making a Point & Click GUI for Samba.. anything to that?
[02:40] <nba> chuckyp: yes
[02:41] <chuckyp> nba, did you try just playing the cd because technically you don't need to mount an audio cd to play it.
[02:41] <Vuen> Kickaha, KDE already basically has one
[02:41] <chuckyp> nba, like with xmms or rhythmbox
[02:41] <specialbuddy> how do I view flash
[02:41] <Vuen> along with loads of other stuff gnome enjoys not having
[02:41] <kyle_> !ask
[02:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:41] <Paddy_EIRE> !flash
[02:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:42] <kyle_> i'm installing the new firefox, but it needs a copy of breezy in my cdrom
[02:42] <kyle_> but i don't have it, or a burner
[02:42] <chuckyp> kyle_, no you don't
[02:42] <kyle_> can i have just the copy of it on my hd
[02:43] <kyle_> somehow
[02:43] <chuckyp> kyle_, edit yoru sources.list and comment out the line that references the cdrom
[02:43] <Kickaha> *chuckles* KDE versus Gnome.. reminds me of my good old days when I stoutly defended my Amiga 500 from ravening hoards of Mac and IBM fanatics...
[02:43] <Vuen> well, i'm outta here
[02:43] <Vuen> later
[02:43] <Kickaha> Nite, Vuen.,
[02:43] <Kickaha> And thanks again
[02:43] <Ximoo> i don't want to sound as a spammer
[02:43] <kyle_> well it's a script so everything is automated
[02:43] <nba> chuckyp: the cd doesn't load when i try the xmms
[02:43] <Ximoo> but can i seek help for setting up acidbase here on ubuntu 6.06?
[02:43] <chuckyp> nba, i dunno perhaps someone else will know more.
[02:44] <chuckyp> kyle_, its asking for the ubuntu cd right?
[02:44] <nba> anyway, thanks, chuckyp
[02:44] <kyle_> yeah, in the terminal, after a few steps of the installation
[02:44] <nba> thanks for giving time
[02:44] <Kickaha> Well, thanks to everyone for being patient for an old fart like me, and I appreciate it deeply.
[02:44] <Kickaha> nite, all.
[02:44] <newbie> i just installed ubuntu and i cannot mount my 2nd harddrive it's a EXT3 partition i went into terminial and did mkdir /mnt/drive because i've had this probablem before but now i don't know what the rest is to mount this thing. also i would like to know how to add it to fstab
[02:45] <chuckyp> kyle_, okay well go to System > adminitration > Software Sources
[02:45] <sadewr> damn
[02:45] <kyle_> well i'm using 5.10 still
[02:45] <kyle_> would that be synaptic?
[02:45] <sadewr> two versions of glibc
[02:45] <sadewr> how do I kill the older?
[02:45] <chuckyp> kyle_, alright lets do it this way
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> kyle_: why not upgrade to dapper?
[02:46] <chuckyp> kyle_, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:46] <chuckyp> kyle_, look for the line up near the top that talks about the cdrom as a repository.
[02:49] <sadewr> is there a command to download in konsole?
[02:49] <kyle_> very first line says deb cdrom: breezy
[02:50] <kyle_> chucky_p: just remove it?
[02:50] <chuckyp> kyle_, just put a # at the begining of the line
[02:50] <drimdral> how can I tell whether my /home directory is on a different partition from my root filesystem?
[02:51] <chuckyp> drimdral, df
[02:51] <chuckyp> kyle_, then you can save the file
[02:51] <kyle_> done,
[02:51] <chuckyp> kyle_, after that sudo aptitude update
[02:52] <kitche> drimdral: check your /etc/fstab
[02:52] <holdencaulfield> my CPU maxes out when I play a video... from youtube, for example - I'm running drapper drake on pentium m (1.6) with 512 meg ram - - I just tested with metacity (instead of compiz) and I have the same problem... my CPU maxes out quite easily - - is there anything I can do?
[02:52] <chuckyp> kyle_, then you shouldn't get the prompt about the ubuntu cdrom any longer.  It will now download any additional packages it needs off the net.
[02:53] <chuckyp> holdencaulfield, let me see how much draw it causes me.
[02:53] <JavaDeveloper> Hello, I have a program installed like /opt/Program.  I added a group called "Test", then I assigned myself into this group.  chgrp -cR Test /opt/Program, chmod 775 /opt/Program, and vi /opt/Program, why it is still in read-only mode?
[02:54] <lansing> where can i go to get games
[02:54] <chuckyp> holdencaulfield, 6% of my p4 3gighz used by firefox playing youtube.com
[02:54] <ajmitch> JavaDeveloper: you have to logout/login for it to pick up that you're in the group
[02:54] <holdencaulfield> yeah.. I'm idling at 20, it shoots to 30 when I type!
[02:54] <JavaDeveloper> ajmitch: so group permission cannot be refreshed without login/logout?
[02:55] <Megadeus> has anyone tried installing ubuntu as a dual-boot with Vista?
[02:55] <ajmitch> JavaDeveloper: sadly not
[02:55] <JavaDeveloper> ajmitch: understand now....thank you so much ;)
[02:55] <holdencaulfield> strange... because I can handle compiz pretty well, I thought... but I realized something was wrong when I could play the small youtube videos much better on my osx 86 partition that doesnt even have any video accelleration
[02:55] <Megadeus> I'm preparing to attempt to dual-boot on my own system (I'm a linux noob), and wanted to practice on a computer that I wouldn't be sad if I screwed up. Unfortunately, said computer is running Vista RC1
[02:56] <chuckyp> holdencaulfield, what all do you have running if you are idling at 20J?
[02:56] <specialbuddy> so is the best version flash 7 for linux?
[02:56] <newbie> i just installed ubuntu and i cannot mount my 2nd hard drive   it's a EXT3 partition i did mkdir /mnt/mount/ but now there's commands that i forget to finish mounting this thing. Also, i'd like to know how to add this device in fstab
[02:57] <chuckyp> !tell newbie about mount
[02:57] <p0w> megadeus: just try dude it will work
[02:57] <chuckyp> newbie, is it an ntfs or fat32 partition?  or just linux part?
[02:57] <Megadeus> p0w: try which? my computer or vista?
[02:57] <newbie> it's EXT3
[02:58] <chuckyp> specialbuddy, yes but you can trick certain sites into thinking you have flash 9.
[02:58] <sadewr> no
[02:58] <holdencaulfield> chuckyp - well.. it looks like the biggest hog at the moment is my gnome system monitor.. using 16% most of the time
[02:58] <chuckyp> !tell newbie about ntfs
[02:58] <sadewr> downloading by FTP isnt faster
[02:58] <specialbuddy> how do I do that chuckyp?
[02:58] <chuckyp> newbie, that page has good instructions to look at.  The last one ubotu sent you.
[02:58] <holdencaulfield> I'm surprised that checkgmail uses 25.7 MiB of resident memory....
[02:58] <chuckyp> holdencaulfield, ouch yes.  thats bad.
[02:58] <ataq> hey does any one know where I can get some cool web page templates?
[02:59] <chuckyp> specialbuddy, let me look at the file you need to edit hold up
[02:59] <Paddy_EIRE> ataq: did you try http://www.tutorialoutpost.com/
[02:59] <specialbuddy> thanks chuckyp?
[03:00] <ataq> Paddy_EIRE: I didnt, I'll check it out now. Thanks my fellow Irish man!
[03:00] <chuckyp> specialbuddy, nano .mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat   and change the references to shockwave flash 7.0 to 9.0  save the file and reopen firefox.  The webistes will tink you have 9.0  although you don't have the features of 9.0
[03:00] <kholerabbi> can I install xgl and compiz on a liveCD session?
[03:00] <Paddy_EIRE> ataq: no probs :) u will have to search though its not very clear
[03:00] <chuckyp> specialbuddy, thats nano ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat
[03:00] <chuckyp> kholerabbi, you should be able to.
[03:01] <kholerabbi> chuckyp: thanks. Do you have instrucitons for installing these?
[03:01] <chuckyp> kholerabbi, although a live cd with xgl may be a better options
[03:01] <ataq> Paddy_EIRE: Ya looks like there ar some good stuff on it. Is apache hard is it? I never used it yet
[03:01] <chuckyp> !tell kholerabbi about xgl
[03:01] <Paddy_EIRE> errr, I'm not that skilled yet
[03:01] <kholerabbi> "kholerabbi, although a live cd with xgl may be a better options" what do you mean?
[03:01] <grodius> Does anyone know a sort of 'ourtunes' or 'mytunes' that allows you share your mp3s from your windows computer to your LInux comp?
[03:01] <Paddy_EIRE> gettin there though :)
[03:02] <ataq> Paddy_EIRE; You at it long?
[03:02] <chuckyp> kholerabbi, there are other distros that are for just that purpose checking out xgl.
[03:02] <Paddy_EIRE> started a course or 2 recently and still to get my teeth into it
[03:02] <kholerabbi> oh, so preinstalled on a livecd? thanks,
[03:03] <ataq> Paddy_EIRE: Ya its pretty intense. Where abouts in the country are you, cos there are no good courses down here
[03:03] <chuckyp> kholerabbi, yeah koronaa is one there are others as well but I'm assuming you could possibly do it with the ubuntu live cd though as well.
[03:03] <chuckyp> kholerabbi, try following the normal directions.
[03:03] <kholerabbi> ok thanks
[03:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Im up in the north....Derry :P bit of a shite hole really
[03:03] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[03:04] <Paddy_EIRE> great courses happenin though
[03:04] <tritium> Paddy_EIRE: watch the language, please
[03:04] <ataq> Paddy_EIRE: Never ben that far up, I'm from Limerick and no one knows linux! it sucks!
[03:04] <Paddy_EIRE> tritium: sorry mate, are you the government
[03:04] <Samuli^> Anza saatana! vanha paskanaama :D
[03:04] <tritium> Paddy_EIRE: no, nor am I your mate.  I'm married and monogamous.
[03:05] <quux> Running dapper, with all updates. If I go to Places | Home Folder, nothing happens. If I go to Places | Computer, then choose my home folder, Nautilus instantly dies. Thoughts?
[03:05] <specialbuddy> thanks chuckyp
[03:05] <Paddy_EIRE> i like cake
[03:05] <kholerabbi> yah cake is good
[03:05] <ataq> tritium: Dude he didnt use any bad language, its just mild like
[03:05] <quux> (note that I can browse my home folder from a terminal with no problems)
[03:05] <azureal> hey, i'm getting a "your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes" while compiling..any ideas?
[03:05] <kholerabbi> quux do you HAVE a home folder?
[03:05] <quux> kholerabbi: yes
[03:05] <tritium> ataq: it's just our policy to keep the channel family and work friendly
[03:06] <kholerabbi> hehe
[03:06] <Paddy_EIRE> its ok us northern irish folk are used to being oppressed :P
[03:06] <akonkwa> does anyone know how I can write on an ntf partition?
[03:06] <akonkwa> I'm using breezy
[03:06] <quux> kholerabbi: I'm logged in as the first and only user created within Ubuntu
[03:06] <ataq> Paddy_EIRE: I think its cos we're both Irish
[03:07] <Samuli^> how do you like finnish people?
[03:07] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know why BT refuse to offer a newsserver
[03:07] <ataq> fins are cool
[03:07] <Paddy_EIRE> offtopic opps
[03:07] <Samuli^> ataw, no shit.
[03:07] <ataq> samuli^: lol
[03:07] <Samuli^> -20C and we're definately cool.
[03:07] <ataq> samuli^: ice cool
[03:08] <newbie> ok i still can't mount this drive
[03:08] <Samuli^> like a BRICK!
[03:08] <Samuli^> coolio.
[03:08] <tritium> Samuli^: language!
[03:08] <Samuli^> like me.
[03:08] <ataq> samuli^: good sport though I'd say!! wouldnt mind the skiing and shit there
[03:08] <Samuli^> tritium, please. :)
[03:08] <tritium> ataq: you already know better
[03:09] <newbie> nevermind i got it,..thanks
[03:09] <Samuli^> tritium, ..why?
[03:10] <quux> Anyone have other thoughts on the 'Nautilus closes when opening Home Folder' thing?
[03:10] <tritium> Samuli^: foul language is inappropriate here, as it's a child/family/work friendly channel.
[03:11] <azureal> so anyone know about sstream or strstream compiling errors? i think i just need some packages, but not sure which
[03:12] <holdencaulfield> I rebooted into an older kernel and I am still having 100% cpu when watching a little video from youtube... I suppose ubuntu has always been like this.... and tips for 1.6 pentium m 512 meg ram dell inspiron 8600?
[03:13] <Samuli^> tritium, but s it?
[03:13] <holdencaulfield> (its always been like this for ME)
[03:13] <daver2u> hey how do you change your default java home from gij to sun jre after installing the sun jre
[03:13] <Samuli^> that's like what comes out of your arse, even children know the word.
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> ataq: http://www.nwifhe.ac.uk/courses/fulltime/prospectus/ check out the pdf
[03:13] <daver2u> (running edgy eft :) btw
[03:13] <aum> when's the next ubuntu version due out?
[03:14] <tritium> Samuli^: yes, of course.  That's not appropriate in front of children.  We need to set an example, even if they know that word.  Come on, now.
[03:14] <quux> Hmm. Actually it turns out that Nautilus just exits no matter what folder I try to open
[03:14] <daver2u> aum -- im running the new version (beta)
[03:14] <aum> daver2u, what's it called?
[03:14] <daver2u> edgy eft
[03:15] <Samuli^> tritium, I don't get you, but maybe that's because I'm finnish and not native to english.
[03:15] <Paddy_EIRE> tritium: do you censor your familys mail/newspaper before it gets to them aswell ;)
[03:15] <aum> is 'edgy' the next planned release, or is it like ubuntu's version of 'sid'?
[03:15] <tritium> Paddy_EIRE: please stay on topic
[03:15] <daver2u> its the next release
[03:15] <daver2u> dapper drake is current
[03:15] <Samuli^> tritium, here even children know what sh*t or poo means :)
[03:16] <daver2u> so hey anyone know the place to change the java defaults?
[03:16] <tritium> Samuli^: that's not the point.  Please drop it now.
[03:16] <Samuli^> tritium, what IS the point?
[03:16] <tritium> Samuli^: setting a good example.  Now drop it!
[03:17] <daver2u> i dunno how many children besides the adult typewould be in the ubuntu support channel
[03:17] <TigTigger> Hi, sorry for the interruption.  I'm just trying to get some help with jMicron support (basically, Core 2 Duo support).  There's a huge launchpad bug (#57502) on this, which is marked "Fix Released".  Unfortunately for me and most other people, the fix doesn't actually work, and the bug owner hasn't said anything in some time.  Could someone suggest what I should do?  Open another bug report?  I'd really like to be able to run Ubunt
[03:17] <TigTigger> u on my new machine. =/
[03:17] <daver2u> lol
[03:17] <Samuli^> tritium, come on, unban the guy who said the S-word. Please? I'm sure he didn't realize it was banned, just like I didn't. And I consider myself a good person.
[03:17] <grodius> Hey I accidently unassigned my - and = keys on my other computer, how do I reassign them to default
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE> grodius: 1 sec I hava a link for that
[03:18] <tritium> Samuli^: scroll up and you'll see you're mistaken.  He did realize.
[03:18] <grodius> Paddy_EIRE, thanks
[03:18] <ReinH> Hi folks... has anyone used Synergy on a ubuntu box and a windows box? Has anyone used Synergy at all on ubuntu?
[03:18] <azureal> all i need is build-essential to compile, correct
[03:18] <tritium> azureal: yep
[03:19] <Samuli^> tritium, I can't scrollback far enough to see if what you're telling is the truth or not.
[03:19] <azureal> ah, another question-- when something requires the "X libraries and headers" what should i get?
[03:19] <akonkwa> How can i list my partitions?
[03:19] <tritium> Samuli^: I don't lie.  Now, I've asked you to drop the subject.
[03:19] <azureal> X Window System
[03:20] <chuckyp> akonkwa, df
[03:20] <chuckyp> akonkwa, or actually fdisk -l
[03:20] <Paddy_EIRE> grodius: open a terminal and type "xmodmap -e"
[03:20] <chuckyp> akonkwa, yeah sudo fdisk -l
[03:20] <Radscientist> Hi y'all
[03:20] <Samuli^> tritium, whatever. What you COULD do as a service people on a service-chan is to address the complaints accordingly.
[03:20] <urz> i am having trouble figuring out what soudn card i have'
[03:20] <akonkwa> chuckyp,  thanx
[03:21] <urz> nothing obvious in lspci
[03:21] <urz> its a newish emachine
[03:21] <urz> onboard sound
[03:21] <chuckyp> urz, lspci -vvv | grep sound
[03:21] <chuckyp> urz, err... hold up
[03:21] <urz> that command gave no output
[03:21] <Paddy_EIRE> grodius: sorry that might actually be "xmodmap -h"
[03:21] <kitche> !rules
[03:21] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:22] <ReinH> I'm guesssing that no one's used Syngergy on ubuntu here :) oh well.
[03:22] <azureal> basically i'm asking, what package do you think of when you see "X window system [libraries + headers] "
[03:22] <SuperMiguel> how can i change my files permitions logins as root on the graphical mode?
[03:22] <Fear_cult> how do you stop gdm from loading
[03:22] <urz> is SB400 indicative of a sound card?
[03:22] <azureal> xserver..?
[03:22] <Fear_cult> no gdm
[03:23] <SuperMiguel> yea but i have to be root
[03:23] <chuckyp> urz, lscpi | grep audio
[03:23] <daver2u> does anyone know how to change the java interpreter path
[03:23] <azureal> xserver-xorg?
[03:23] <ReinH> SuperMiguel: from terminal you can gksudo nautilus /path/to/your/directory
[03:23] <grodius> Paddy_EIRE,  ok now what?
[03:23] <holdencaulfield> what does this do? echo 1 > /sys/module/processor/parameters/max_cstate
[03:24] <ReinH> SuperMiguel: to open up a nautilus file explorer with root priveledges
[03:24] <maxres> azureal   xserver-xorg-dev
[03:24] <blake6489> my computer froze, i shut it off w/ the power button, startup again, try to login,receved error, cant write to authorization file, could be that im out of space or that my home dir couldnt be opened. i tryed loging in failsafe gnome, and failsafe terminal, but neither worked, no error message or any thing.  now i rebooted in to recovery mode, so i have a root terminal, any ideas what i should do?
[03:24] <azureal> k, thx maxres, hopefully this will work out...
[03:24] <daver2u> gij java is garbage
[03:25] <cycom> blake6489: df -h?
[03:25] <donpachi> Does anyone know why my text files created with gedit are not readable with windows notepad?
[03:25] <SuperMiguel> ReinH: how can i do that
[03:25] <cycom> daver2u: s/gij java/java/
[03:25] <azureal> nah, i think i need just xsever-xorg
[03:25] <quux> Hmm. rebooting ubuntu solved the 'nautilus exits when open any folder' prob, but knowing a better solution would be nice ... anyone?
[03:25] <Paddy_EIRE> how do I change the status of a bug to "Answered" on launchpad and Assign credit where it is due?
[03:25] <daver2u> cycom?
[03:25] <cycom> daver2u: of course, I do have azureus and eclipse because of java.
[03:26] <blake6489> cycom: sorry, dont understand
[03:26] <daver2u> im trying to change the path from gij to jre
[03:26] <cycom> blake6489: check to see how much space is free on the drive. df -h
[03:26] <ReinH> SuperMiguel: you can either open up a terminal window or alternately add a panel icon with the command" gksudo nautilus /" without quotes
[03:26] <cycom> daver2u: isn't there a sun java package?
[03:26] <grodius> Does anyone know how to activate the default keymap?
[03:26] <ReinH> SuperMiguel: er "gksudo nautilus /" without quotes
[03:26] <tritium> cycom: yes
[03:26] <ReinH> that'll open up a file explorer with root priveledges in your root directory
[03:27] <daver2u> there is but gij was installed so the java command still goes to gij
[03:27] <SpaceFrog> How can I change the default Application to open for a filetype? I have chm files that are opening with Firefox by default, but i want to open them with CHM Viewer.
[03:27] <ReinH> SuperMiguel: you will have to know the password, obviously
[03:27] <SuperMiguel> how do i use chmod
[03:27] <tritium> daver2u: you'll want to use the update-alternatives command for the java alternative that is set
[03:27] <cycom> daver2u: there are instructions out there on how to switch over.
[03:27] <daver2u> dave@dave-desktop:~/.Limewire/LimeWire$ java -version
[03:27] <daver2u> java version "1.4.2"
[03:27] <daver2u> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-14ubuntu7)
[03:27] <ReinH> SuperMiguel: man chmod
[03:27] <cycom> I think ubuntu-desktop relies on it or something
[03:27] <blake6489> cycom: says its full, but i had a few gigs left, so i need to find the new file taking up the space?
[03:28] <cycom> blake6489: define 'says its full'
[03:28] <tritium> daver2u: update-alternatives --list java, to see your choices.  You should see the two you want.  Then, re-run update-alternatives, without the "--list" part.
[03:28] <cycom> daver2u: what tritium said.
[03:28] <tyler_d> ktorrent will not start?? not showing up in process lists, k7
[03:28] <blake6489> 23gb out of 23gb
[03:28] <daver2u> apparently I have to change the line in the .bashrc file but i dunno where that is
[03:28] <holdencaulfield> exit
[03:29] <cycom> Damn glowey elements.  Outsmarting me.
[03:29] <akonkwa>  I created a group for users to write on a ntfs disk, using the addgroup command, but I would like to know the group's ID (GID) Can anyone help?
[03:29] <cycom> blake6489: try just df with no -h
[03:30] <IRC> how do i upgrade my ubuntu if i dont have show updates installed? i also removed ubuntu-desktop. what do i do to upgrade to edgy
[03:30] <SuperMiguel> how do i change the permissions using ] chmod
[03:30] <ReinH> SuperMiguel: typing man chmod in your terminal window will tell you :)
[03:30] <blake6489> 23176192 out of 23265144
[03:30] <chuckyp> IRC, edgy support is in #ubuntu+1
[03:30] <cycom> IRC: change the things that say dapper in /etc/apt/sources to edgy and do apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:31] <chuckyp> IRC, first I would make sure you have ubuntu-desktop meta package installed then
[03:31] <cycom> IRC: ^ NOTE THE QUESTION MARK.  I DON'T KNOW.
[03:31] <Flannel> cycom: no.  There are better ways of upgrading than that now.
[03:31] <Flannel> !tell cycom about upgrade
[03:31] <ReinH> SpaceFrog: you can change the default "Open with" program for a file type from within nautilus from its properties dialog
[03:31] <Flannel> cycom: that page (ubotu sent you) has all the info you need
[03:31] <blake6489> cycom: 23176192 out of 23265144
[03:31] <adeluna_> to upgrade to edgy  follow this instructions   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta
[03:31] <grodius> Can someone PLEASE help me? I need to know a way to make my keymap go default??
[03:31] <IRC> ehh
[03:31] <IRC> whatever
[03:32] <chuckyp> IRC, sudo sed -i s/dapper/edgy/ /etc/apt/sources.list  then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:32] <IRC> thanks tho
[03:32] <SpaceFrog> thanks ReinH
[03:32] <daver2u> Im running edgy wahoo
[03:32] <akonkwa>  I created a group for users to write on a ntfs disk, using the addgroup command, but I would like to know the group's ID (GID) Can anyone help?
[03:32] <cycom> blake6489: delete some stuff. :)
[03:33] <cycom> Uhhh, yeah, it pretty much says change every occurence of dapper to edgy and do apt-getupdate and apt-get dist-upgrade, + a few extras in apt-get to ensure proper install.
[03:33] <blake6489> cycom: makes sense, thanks, ill be back if that dosnt do the trick ;)
[03:33] <jrib> akonkwa: getent group GROUP_NAME_HERE
[03:33] <cycom> blake6489: good luck :)
[03:33] <chuckyp> akonkwa, its in a users file but I can't remember which one.
[03:33] <SuperMiguel> how can i change folder permissions?
[03:33] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, change them to what?
[03:34] <cycom> blake6489: note: du -h can show stuff like filesizes, and I think you can do something to limit to a specific size
[03:34] <SuperMiguel> because just root can use them
[03:34] <SuperMiguel> i want to have access to it
[03:34] <jrib> ubotu: tell SuperMiguel about sudo
[03:34] <jrib> SuperMiguel: what folders?
[03:34] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, is this a system forlder or one you created?
[03:34] <akonkwa> jrib, thanx
[03:34] <blake6489> cycom: thx, that will help
[03:34] <SuperMiguel> apache2 folder
[03:34] <cycom> blake6489: np.
[03:35] <Shadow_mil> isn't about time for a new ubuntu version.  Dapper has been around for a while
[03:35] <SuperMiguel> i cant access to my web page because i dont have permissions
[03:35] <chuckyp> !tell Shadow_mil about edgy
[03:35] <grodius> Does anyone know how to make keyboard shortcuts go back to defaults?
[03:35] <Shadow_mil> !schedule
[03:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:36] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, well you can use chown to change the owner of the folder.  Although I would edit the file with sudo or you should have a www user that owns the folder.
[03:36] <blake6489> cycom: what is the command to delete?
[03:36] <chuckyp> blake6489, rm
[03:36] <SuperMiguel> chuckyp: how do i do that
[03:36] <blake6489> oh now it makes sense :0
[03:36] <cycom> blake6489: rm. be VERY careful with that
[03:37] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, sudo chown SuperMiguel /name/of/directory
[03:37] <cycom> blake6489: it's kind of like an axe.  If you're not paying attention to where you swing it, you lop off a foot.
[03:37] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, be carefull though.
[03:37] <daver2u> there is still alot missing from the edgy repositories
[03:37] <blake6489> cycom: will do, good thing is i just copyed entire drive to external, so im safe...i hope
[03:37] <daver2u> mplayer for instance
[03:37] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, you can type chown --help for information on usage
[03:37] <jrib> daver2u: mplayer is in edgy's multiverse
[03:38] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, or man chown to get the manual pages
[03:38] <FluFlo> Anybody knows if there if printing in edgy is broken?. It seems to be a problem with gnome-cups, at least in my case
[03:38] <jrib> daver2u: edgy should be in #ubuntu+1 though
[03:38] <tritium> daver2u: er, no, it's there
[03:38] <chuckyp> FluFlo, edgy support is in #ubuntu+1
[03:38] <chuckyp> FluFlo, and to answer you I have no problems printing
[03:38] <FluFlo> chuckyp, ok, going there. Thanks
[03:38] <btdown> me tiehr.
[03:38] <cycom> blake6489: try       du | sort -n -r | less
[03:38] <BlindVirus> does any one in here know of a good site to download kubuntu gameS>?
[03:39] <cycom> blake6489: that will show the filesizes in bytes with the largest files/folders on top
[03:39] <chuckyp> BlindVirus, ask in #kubuntu
[03:39] <BlindVirus> sorry ment ubuntu
[03:39] <chuckyp> BlindVirus, they may know more
[03:39] <lg8> Hi
[03:39] <BlindVirus> i have ubuntu 6.06
[03:39] <SuperMiguel> chuckyp: i  put sudo chown SuperMiguel /name/of/directory
[03:39] <salami> hello
[03:39] <mister_roboto> cschneid: you don't have to do anything special to copy . files.   if you cp a directory, they will also be copies.
[03:39] <SuperMiguel> sudo chown miguel /var/www
[03:40] <michael> good morning friends
[03:40] <SuperMiguel> but it didnt make any difference
[03:40] <SuperMiguel> do i have to reboot?
[03:40] <chuckyp> BlindVirus, well if you google for linux games you will see tons of sites
[03:40] <krayzone> By chance does anyone know wheather or not mc is an available package on the Drapper Drake cd?
[03:40] <michael> I have a problem...
[03:40] <BlindVirus> not too shore how to install those tho waht .exe or .trr or whatever what file extenchin and i looking for?
[03:40] <cdubya> SuperMiguel, what are you trying to do?
[03:40] <lg8> fun
[03:40] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, no i was merely describing how to use the command.   i.e. sudo chown nameofnewowner /directory/you/want/changed
[03:40] <azureal> ok, i'm trying to make a base ubuntu system w/ fluxbox... so far i've installed it and compiled fluxbox from source... atm getting xdm.. startx still won't work...
[03:41] <jrib> krayzone: no it's in universe, so it won't be on the cd
[03:41] <SuperMiguel> chucky thast waht i didi
[03:41] <azureal> should i reboot or something?
[03:41] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, like if I wanted to change /poop/blah from root to me being the owner I would sudo chown chuckyp /poop/blah
[03:41] <michael> when I sudo apt-get source neverball,   it says I am lack of some deb sources in sources.list
[03:41] <SuperMiguel> cdubya: im traying to get permissions to open my apache web page
[03:41] <krayzone> If i downlaod the tz, do  you think i will be able to compile from source, considering im working with a non internet connected server?
[03:41] <_Er1K_> krayzone:  not on the media, but it's readily available in edgy
[03:41] <_Er1K_> "apt-get install mc"
[03:41] <michael> could anybody help?
[03:42] <cdubya> SuperMiguel, so what have you tried?
[03:42] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, like I said I don't believe chaning the owner is the proper solution.
[03:42] <SuperMiguel> i tride to change it using nautilious
[03:42] <_Er1K_> michael: make sure your universe/metaverse repositories are on
[03:42] <SuperMiguel> but it didnt work
[03:42] <BlindVirus> what file extenchin do i need to instal aplications like windows was .exe whats ubuntu?
[03:42] <SuperMiguel> i didnt make the change
[03:42] <jrib> krayzone: that would be one way, but you would have to take care of any dependencies it has.  You could also download the deb from packages.ubuntu.com (along with the list dependencies) and do it that way.  Or if you have access to a network connect debian-based machine, you could use apt-file
[03:42] <chuckyp> BlindVirus, it doesn't workt hat way.
[03:42] <hantu> you can't install windows binary on ubuntu
[03:42] <_Er1K_> michael: edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root, and uncomming the fun stuff
[03:42] <SuperMiguel> then i tryed sudo chown miguel /var/www
[03:43] <cdubya> SuperMiguel, what are the perms right now?
[03:43] <michael> wickedpuppy:  are you busy ?
[03:43] <hantu> unless you install wine, then you can run windows apps on ubuntu
[03:43] <chuckyp> BlindVirus, there are plenty of games in the repos if you look have you tried searching synaptic for games?
[03:43] <SuperMiguel> root
[03:43] <BlindVirus> chuckyp: can you point me i nthe right direction of a help file of some sort?
[03:43] <_Er1K_> s/uncomming/uncomment
[03:43] <cdubya> SuperMiguel, ls -al /var/www
[03:43] <SuperMiguel> well if i see it on the nautilious is miguel
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> michael, eh ah sort of .. why ?
[03:43] <azureal> ah, startx works now, but getting a "could not open default font:fixed"
[03:43] <michael> _Er1K_:  what is fun stuff?
[03:43] <azureal> perhaps i should restart...
[03:43] <skewh> Is there anyplace that has a walkthrough of how to install a GUI on Ubuntu Server?
[03:43] <BlindVirus> ya its for my mom shes used to windoes she wants something liek puzzle games she likes i dont know if uve herd of like chuzzles or anyhting liek that
[03:43] <BlindVirus> its like bejewled
[03:43] <chuckyp> BlindVirus, yeah System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager   then search for games  you will be able to read through descriptions etc..
[03:43] <_Er1K_> universe and metaverse repositories mainly
[03:43] <michael> wickedpuppy:  when I sudo apt-get source neverball,   it says I am lack of some deb sources in sources.list
[03:44] <BlindVirus> any place online?
[03:44] <krazykit> any reason that xine/amarok refuses to play certain FLAC files while mplayer and others play them fine?
[03:44] <krayzone> I donwnload the deb package from packages and the depends for the time being, thanks for the help.
[03:44] <skewh> preferebly
[03:44] <jrib> michael: post the error, as well as the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> michael, could you paste the errors on the pastebin pls ?
[03:44] <michael> wickedpuppy: I want to get the source of a game
[03:44] <chuckyp> BlindVirus, there are some games installed by default in Applications > Games already but yeah let me get you a site hold up
[03:44] <_Er1K_> michael: if you pastebin your sources.list I can show you what to uncomment
[03:44] <cdubya> SuperMiguel, what does it say?
[03:44] <SuperMiguel> cdubya: drwxr-xr-x and drwxrwxrwx  still having root
[03:44] <SuperMiguel> permissions
[03:44] <BlindVirus> thank you and i know lol im not a complete nooob
[03:44] <SuperMiguel> the others have miguel and miguel
[03:45] <Samuli^> krazykit, what do you mean by certain.. if they indeed seem like random try to find a common deminator between them :P
[03:45] <cdubya> SuperMiguel, so you're wanting to be able to modify files in a web directory?
[03:45] <krazykit> Samuli^: they're from the same album :-P.  all the other FLAC files i have play fine but these.
[03:46] <SuperMiguel> im trying to access my web page
[03:46] <SuperMiguel> but i says
[03:46] <chuckyp> BlindVirus,  But if you follow my earlier instructions for checking synaptic it will be a lot easier than downloading from source and installing.  However, you can find some info at http://www.linux-gamers.net/ http://www.linuxgames.com/ .  You should probably read the wiki on installing software.
[03:46] <michael> _Er1K_:  it says:   you must write some "software deb sources" 's URI to your sources.list
[03:46] <skewh> well for Ubuntu Server GUI, I type in a command and it downloads it off the net, but is there anything else I need to do to activate it and will it be the same GUI as on the desktop version?
[03:46] <SuperMiguel> You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.
[03:46] <chuckyp> !tell BlindVirus about games
[03:46] <chuckyp> !tell BlindVirus about synaptic
[03:46] <kyle__> !dapper
[03:46] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[03:46] <SuperMiguel> im trying to access to my web site but it says You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.
[03:46] <kyle__> !upgrade
[03:46] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:46] <chuckyp> BlindVirus, take a look at the links from ubotu first.
[03:46] <chuckyp> !games
[03:46] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:47] <kyle__> chuckyp, hello again.
[03:47] <michael> _Er1K_:  it says:   you must write some "software deb sources" 's URI to your sources.list, such like that, this info is in Chinese, I translated it :-P
[03:47] <arakn0> hello, does anyone know how to boot the dapper drake netinstall with loadlin ?? (in W98/ME)
[03:47] <chuckyp> kyle__, yo
[03:47] <azureal> yea, still getting some font error.. for this reason xdm won't start
[03:47] <secleinteer> hi, does any1 know the difference between ubuntu firefox and mozilla firefox?
[03:47] <michael> wickedpuppy:  :  it says:   you must write some "software deb sources" 's URI to your sources.list, such like that, this info is in Chinese, I translated it :-P
[03:47] <kyle__> chuckyp, my firefox isn't working and someone suggested just upgrading to dapper from breezy
[03:47] <krazykit> Samuli^: meh.  reencoding it seems to fix it.  bah.
[03:47] <chuckyp> arakn0, google has some info on using vmlinuz but no idea if there is anything out ther for loadlin
[03:47] <azureal> could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts.....
[03:47] <skewh> well for Ubuntu Server GUI, I type in a command and it downloads it off the net, but is there anything else I need to do to activate it and will it be the same GUI as on the desktop version?
[03:47] <BlindVirus> tank you chuck
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> michael, ok .. no i don't know chinese either :P
[03:48] <chuckyp> kyle__, okay,
[03:48] <kyle__> chuckyp, but i don't know how
[03:48] <Shadow_mil> chuckyp: my RL nickname is chuck
[03:48] <SuperMiguel> im trying to access to my web site but it says You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.
[03:48] <kyle__> chuckyp, he suggested editing the sources list, kinda like you did.. but doing something else
[03:48] <chuckyp> kyle__, okay let me see if I can find you the proper way that explains everything.
[03:48] <_Er1K_> michael:  this is my sources.list and it gives *ME* neverball: http://pastebin.ca/200270
[03:48] <chuckyp> Shadow_mil, mine too
[03:48] <chuckyp> kyle__, yeah thats pretty much what you have to do is edit the sources.list but there is a good page on it that explaines everythign hold up.
[03:48] <blake6489> cycom: holy cow, i checked the trash dir, only 23 items but the last two were my failed atemps at imagine my disk!!! now im 43% full out of 23 gb!!! thanks alot
[03:48] <azureal> lol /usr/share/X11/fonts doesnt exist!
[03:48] <kyle__> chuckyp, i'd look for it myself, but like i said, broken install
[03:49] <michael> _Er1K_:  I wonder how to use pastebin
[03:49] <Shadow_mil> chuckyp: I have chuck set on my highlight list, I get a lot of Chuck Norris hits
[03:49] <cycom> blake6489: Act like it was nuthin. :)
[03:49] <kyle__> chuckyp, broken install of firefox
[03:49] <skewh> well for Ubuntu Server GUI, I type in a command and it downloads it off the net, but is there anything else I need to do to activate it and will it be the same GUI as on the desktop version?
[03:50] <_Er1K_> michael: I know the others here will kill me cuz we have our own....but pastebin.ca, paste, submit, it gives you an url
[03:50] <blake6489> thanks
[03:50] <_Er1K_> give url to your friend
[03:50] <AqD> hi all!
[03:50] <AqD> i re-made the latest mac menubar patch for gtk 2.8
[03:50] <azureal> could someone kindly tell me the package i need to er... create a /usr/share/X11/fonts directory =P
[03:50] <michael> _Er1K_:  Oh, what a good thing!
[03:50] <AqD> someone please make an ubuntu package for it :)
[03:50] <gunfus> Hello Guys!, I am running a session of nautilus and deleting files.. where would this files go?
[03:50] <AqD> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[03:50] <_Er1K_> no matter who's is used, it *is* a wonderful thing :)
[03:50] <AqD> bye!
[03:50] <michael> _Er1K_:  does it mean that I need to add such :   deb-src http://........... ?
[03:51] <jrib> gunfus: ~/.Trash probably
[03:51] <azureal> is it xfonts-base?
[03:51] <gunfus> jrib: yeah.. sorry I forgot the tricky part
[03:51] <skewh> could anyone help me? :(
[03:51] <gunfus> I am running a sudo nautilus
[03:51] <cycom> blake6489: you are quite welcome.  I'd play with the console as much as possible, simply to learn how to use it more effectively.  I hadn't tried that sort trick before tonight, oddly enough.
[03:51] <_Er1K_> michael: I don't think you *must* enable them, but it's not going to hurt you
[03:51] <vertana> 01001001 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01101001 01110010 01110011 01110011 01101001 00101110 00101110 00101110 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100001 00100000 01101100 01101001 01110100 01110100 01101100 01100101 00100000 01100010 01100101 01110100 01110100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01111000 01100011 01101000 01100001 01110100 0010
[03:51] <gunfus> so i am running a root session of nautilus
[03:51] <gunfus> where do the files that I delete go?
[03:51] <azureal> ROFL @ vertana
[03:51] <gunfus> /root/.Trash?
[03:52] <vertana> /home/$user/.trash
[03:52] <_Er1K_> I don't build from source very often, but if you want it perfectly optimized.....debian+cousins make it easy
[03:52] <THX-1138> vertana - turn off the script. - lol
[03:52] <skewh> can anyone answer my question?
[03:52] <vertana> Lmao, sorry, did it auto binary that last comment? =p
[03:52] <michael> _Er1K_:  OK, I think this must be the reason.  all sources in my sources.list is such: deb http://...   , there isn't even one with deb-src
[03:52] <azureal> i wish i could speak binary
[03:52] <chuckyp> kyle__, okay I can't find a good page on it so here is my instrutions
[03:53] <vertana> azureal: It's easy.  (numbers... can't read it like english though :P)
[03:53] <gunfus> so if I am running with 'sudo nautilus' and I delete a file where does the delete file go?
[03:53] <vertana> /root/.trash
[03:53] <chuckyp> kyle__, are you able to get to a console and know how to use it?
[03:53] <nalioth> gunfus: first, don't "sudo nautilus", you will wreck your system
[03:53] <nalioth> !tell gunfus about gksudo
[03:53] <_Er1K_> michael: make sure the end of your "deb http://archive.ubuntu" whatever line has "main restricted universe multiverse" at the end
[03:53] <kyle__> chuckyp, yea
[03:53] <vertana> Yeah... that's smart advice lol
[03:54] <gunfus> nalioth: ohh okay
[03:54] <azureal> ah, now i'm getting a "no session managers, no window managers, and no terminal emulators found, aborting"
[03:54] <CaptainMorgan> is there a command to view which version of compiler Im running (g++) ?
[03:54] <jrib> CaptainMorgan: gcc -v
[03:55] <michael> _Er1K_:  en, I will.  thank you.
[03:55] <urz> lspci | grep audio is nothing
[03:55] <azureal> my window manager is compiled from source; what is a session manager, and yes, it's true i have no terminals..
[03:55] <_Er1K_> $ g++ --version
[03:55] <_Er1K_> g++ (GCC) 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu4)
[03:55] <chuckyp> kyle__, ahh never mind I found the page  there are two options you have using the gui or using apt-get via console check it out.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[03:56] <kyle__> chuckyp, i'd check it out, but i can't open firefox
[03:56] <chuckyp> kyle__, durr my bad
[03:56] <chuckyp> kyle__ lol
[03:56] <chuckyp> kyle__, first you should back up any data that you really need on your system.
[03:57] <chuckyp> kyle__, is your system up to date currently?
[03:57] <gunfus> nalioth: gksudo -u root nautilus --browser is not quite working
[03:57] <scot524> Is there a way to find out what package an individual file is in? A python module I am trying to install is looking for mssql.c
[03:57] <gunfus> well it doesn't work for me
[03:58] <kyle__> chuckyp, no i just checked System>Administration>Update Manager and it had a bunch of files like 205 mb worth
[03:58] <nalioth> gunfus: just alt-f2 > 'gksudo nautilus'
[03:58] <wasabi> There anyway to boot the livecd to a console?
[03:58] <michael> _Er1K_:  it says: unable to open /var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu.cn99.com_ubuntu_dists_main_restricted_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[03:58] <wasabi> X is broken on this system.
[03:58] <jrib> scot524: packages.ubuntu.com has a search or you can use apt-file
[03:58] <chuckyp> kyle__, well I would apply those updates prior to doing a dist-upgrade just to be safe.
[03:58] <gunfus> nalioth: ohh COOL!
[03:58] <gunfus> I learn a short-cut
[03:58] <scot524> apt-file .. thx
[03:58] <cd32fan> good evening
[03:58] <chuckyp> kyle__, after you apply those you want to just click on "check" in the update manager it should show you that dapper is availible.
[03:58] <jrib> scot524: what python module by the way?
[03:59] <chuckyp> kyle__, and offer you to upgrade
[03:59] <tyler_d> ktorrent won't run, tried reboot, re-install??
[03:59] <AdamPA> hi
[03:59] <nalioth> !tell scot524 about apt-file
[03:59] <tyler_d> no error messages?
[03:59] <kyle__> chuckyp, i wont have to manually edit sources.list or ...
[03:59] <cd32fan> can someone help please,i tried to install the ATI drivers,and now i cant boot into X
[03:59] <AdamPA> Anyone know if Ubuntu and Acrobat have a plugin to open Acrobat PDF Forms?
[03:59] <vertana> Wow... Irssi is awesome!  :D
[03:59] <chuckyp> kyle__, not if the update manger is working properly it should prompt you about the new version of dapper.
[03:59] <nalioth> !tell cd32fan about xcfg
[04:00] <tyler_d> cd32fan: escape and boot into console
[04:00] <cd32fan> what can i say?
[04:00] <cd32fan> okay
[04:00] <kyle__> alright i'll see where it takes me then, thx
[04:00] <bsytko> Hello, does anyone know of any decent FTP clients? And please don't say gFTP because it is seriously lacking.
[04:00] <Samuli^> AdamPa, what?
[04:00] <tyler_d> cd32fan: then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <chuckyp> kyle__, if you need to launch the update manager for whatever reason you could open a terminal or alt+f2 to bring up a run command then type gksudo update-manager
[04:00] <Samuli^> AdamPA, do you mean if it's possible to view pdf documents on ubuntu?
[04:00] <tyler_d> cd32fan: walk through that and reboot
[04:00] <wasabi> There anyway to boot the livecd to a console?
[04:00] <cd32fan> im going to type here what i see here
[04:01] <AdamPA> Samuli^ I mean, I made a filable pdf and cant use it
[04:01] <chuckyp> wasabi, you could just kill gdm
[04:01] <chuckyp> wasabi, but to boot to console I don't beleive you can do that.
[04:01] <wasabi> it locks the system up, so no.
[04:02] <cd32fan> something about not being implemented,the info is too complicated
[04:02] <chuckyp> wasabi, well what about ctrl+alt+f1-f6 should bring up text consoles unless its really lockec.
[04:02] <wasabi> It is really locked.
[04:02] <wasabi> I figured it out.  live casper-udeb/runlevel=S =)
[04:02] <vertana> Just a note for everyone.  It's a good idea to at least become comfortable with irssi... in case your x server breaks (irssi uses terminal).  That way if you can't figure out the solution to your problem you can at least connect to this channel :)
[04:03] <chuckyp> wasabi, there you go yeah if you change the runlevels you should be fine.
[04:03] <PEggerr> I am trying to compile openssl-0.9.8d.tar.gz  from source,  but it just had a error during the make test http://pastebin.com/805628
[04:03] <chuckyp> wasabi, didn't even think abou thtat.  runlevel 3 should be what you are looking for.
[04:04] <cd32fan> tyler_d:thanks
[04:05] <cd32fan> by the way,where can i find the latest ATI drivers for ubuntu?
[04:05] <techno_freak> When the screen saver runs, I get only a black screen, also i get this error:  -1 libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b, any idea whats wrong ?
[04:06] <cd32fan> tyler_d:how much mem should i put in the graphics?
[04:07] <cd32fan> or should i leave it blank?
[04:07] <MrRothstein> could somebody help me figure out a sound problem?
[04:07] <cd32fan> thank you
[04:07] <MrRothstein> stopped working after an update
[04:07] <MrRothstein> works on the login screen
[04:07] <MrRothstein> i think i have to chmod something
[04:08] <ReinH> What do you guys think of the Ubuntu Unleashed book?
[04:08] <ed101> Anyone know of a plugin to BEAGLE so it indexes Evolution MEMOS?
[04:08] <arakn0> can i upgrade from warty to dapper directly??
[04:09] <vlt> Hello. I want match an IP to MAC addresses. What's wromg with the following iptables rule? -A CHECK_IP -m mac --mac-source $MAC -p tcp -s ! $IP -j REJECT
[04:09] <sekhar> hello
[04:09] <sekhar> dudes help me
[04:09] <ed101> hi
[04:09] <sekhar> i am new to ubunbtu
[04:09] <ed101> sup
[04:10] <sekhar> edl101 you gionna help me
[04:10] <ed101> dunno what you got?
[04:10] <MrRothstein> when i run esd as root, i hear a sound
[04:10] <heatxsink> hello all how do I install multiple xorg drivers without removing one
[04:11] <MrRothstein> but when i run it as a regular user i get a bunch of errors
[04:11] <chuckyp> heatxsink, create another device entry
[04:11] <vertana> If you install another drive you have an extremely good chance of breaking your x server.
[04:11] <heatxsink> i did
[04:11] <ed101> talking about sound, how can I use 2 music players at once like in windows?
[04:11] <sekhar> i installed Kde in ubuntu dapper drake!! but now when i run sudo apt get install any sware gives me a lot of dependency errors
[04:12] <chuckyp> ed101, are you in ubuntu or kubuntu?
[04:12] <seamus7> Hi all ... anyone know where I might find default icons for programs that aren't in the usr/share/pixmaps directory ... I guess I'm wondering what system folder a program like 'CheckGmail' might keep it's panel notification icons??
[04:12] <ed101> ubuntu
[04:12] <chuckyp> heatxsink, then you did it.
[04:12] <sekhar> ubuntu
[04:12] <minerale> Is anyone here fluid in regex? I'm trying to parse http://www.somesite.com/path1/path2/   looking to pull only 'path1'
[04:12] <heatxsink> when I apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx it wants to uninstall my nvidia-glx
[04:12] <minerale> I just came back from Barnes And nobles I saw they had the Ubuntu oficial book out for sale displayed prominently
[04:12] <heatxsink> I'm running both a nvidia card and a ati card
[04:12] <heatxsink> for three heads
[04:12] <chuckyp> heatxsink, yeah apt-get will remove it but if you feed it manually should work.
[04:13] <kevin__> are you using fluxbox?
[04:13] <heatxsink> chuckyp, how do I feed it manually?
[04:13] <MrRothstein> http://www\.*\.com\(*)\.*
[04:13] <chuckyp> heatxsink, hrm...
[04:13] <heatxsink> oh via dpkg?
[04:13] <sekhar> hellloooo
[04:13] <kevin__> yes
[04:13] <chuckyp> heatxsink, well dpkg'ng the deb might work unless the config for the fglrx removes other displays.
[04:13] <chuckyp> heatxsink, I'm sure someone here would know or someone on the forums has done it.
[04:14] <sekhar> chuckyp help me i think you are a geek
[04:14] <chuckyp> sekhar, not a geek
[04:14] <MrRothstein> about sound, i chmoded everything in dev/snd 666
[04:14] <chuckyp> sekhar, bored and trying to stay up all night.
[04:14] <dark_light> MrRothstein, it's a regex? the part that has \(*), probably it's an error .o
[04:14] <sekhar> chuckyp,did you read my problem
[04:14] <cd32fan> what is the command for installing the ATi drivers?
[04:14] <chuckyp> sekhar, and you can only go so far on pr0n
[04:14] <chuckyp> sekhar, no what was your problem.
[04:15] <MrRothstein> http://www\.*\.com\(.*)\.* ?
[04:15] <MrRothstein> without the question mark
[04:15] <sekhar> chuckyp,i installed Kde in ubuntu dapper drake!! but now when i run sudo apt get install any sware gives me a lot of dependency errors
[04:15] <kevin__> http://www.tenr.de/gfx/space_dapp_small.png - can any one help me I need the name of this fluxbox style
[04:15] <ed101> sekhar you need to download kubuntu and reinstall
[04:15] <ed101> dummass
[04:16] <chuckyp> sekhar, well try sudo aptitude install packagename that will prompt you if you want to fix the dependency issues.
[04:16] <PEggerr> I am trying to compile openssl-0.9.8d.tar.gz  from source,  but it just had a error during the make test http://pastebin.com/805628
[04:16] <chuckyp> PEggerr, did you try talking with the openssl support?  or just installing via apt-get
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> PEggerr, you do know that openssl is in the repo .??
[04:16] <sekhar> well did you try kde
[04:16] <sekhar> ?
[04:16] <sekhar> chuckyp,dude
[04:17] <ed101> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde instead of gnome ..
[04:17] <PEggerr> chuckyp, apt-get is too old
[04:17] <chuckyp> sekhar, what?
[04:17] <chuckyp> PEggerr, hold up
[04:17] <chuckyp> !openssl
[04:17] <ubotu> openssl: Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8a-7ubuntu0.3 (dapper), package size 952 kB, installed size 2268 kB
[04:17] <ed101> sekhar you need to return your computer because your too dumb to use it ..
[04:17] <PEggerr> what is so wrong with wanting to compile from source?
[04:18] <sekhar> chuckyp, can i simultaneasly install kde,gnome, xifc
[04:18] <menace82> hello... i'll ask something that is off-topic... does anybody knows how to create a search query in OO.org database?
[04:18] <sekhar> ed101, dude we can use kde in ubuntu hmmm
[04:18] <chuckyp> sekhar, yes you can have multiple window managers
[04:18] <chuckyp> sekhar, to install kde i would sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <sekhar> chuckyp, will that cause any dependency issues
[04:19] <chuckyp> sekhar, you will still have gnome and kde
[04:19] <kevin__> http://www.tenr.de/gfx/space_dapp_big.png - this tyle looks great
[04:19] <sekhar> chuckyp, dude thanx sudo aptitude worked
[04:19] <chuckyp> sekhar, no won't cause any issues.  You can run all the window managers out there.  When you go to log in you just select which one you want to log in to.  Click Options>Session>  then you pick kde gnome etc... whatever you want if you have both installe.d.
[04:20] <seamus7> Hi ... Which folder do programs generally install into?
[04:20] <chuckyp> seamus7, depends  what are you trying to do?
[04:20] <kestas> what's the ubuntu chat channel?
[04:20] <heatxsink> anyone in here ever go three monitors?
[04:20] <sekhar> chuckyp, what was the reasson
[04:20] <ed101> fyi if you dont like using sudo, you can "su -" then passwd root and create a password for root.. sometimes sudo gets annoying ..
[04:20] <sekhar> ?
[04:20] <kevin__> http://www.tenr.de/gfx/space_dapp_big.png - -GOD HELP ME - I need this fluxbox style name
[04:20] <chuckyp> sekhar, what reason?
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> kevin__, i were you .. i ask in fluxbox forums or #fluxbox ...
[04:21] <kestas> exit
[04:21] <ed101> err .. i mean.. "sudo su -" then "passwd root"
[04:21] <seamus7> chuckyp: I'm looking for a programs panel icons in order to change them with gimp but they're not in usr/share/pixmaps
[04:21] <kevin__> thanks
[04:21] <sekhar> chuckyp, aptget din wok but aptitude worked
[04:21] <sekhar> ?
[04:22] <chuckyp> sekhar, aptitude has the ability to resolve dependency issues apt-get does not.
[04:22] <chuckyp> sekhar, I just use aptitude instead of apt-get
[04:22] <sekhar> chuckyp, how is xifc is that good?
[04:22] <chuckyp> sekhar, it handles stuff a lot better.
[04:22] <chuckyp> sekhar, you mean xfce?
[04:23] <MrRothstein> minerale, if you're still here, http://.*/(.*)/.*
[04:23] <sekhar> chuckyp, yep
[04:23] <debbb_> hi. i have 2 ubuntu machines on a wlan at home, both of them are sshing to a freebsd machine on the internet. however one of the ubuntu boxes keeps 'freezing' my ssh session: that is, it doesnt accept more input. but if i from my other machine start screen -rx i can see the output of when i type on the first machine and also any text scrolling, but i cant give any input from the first machine
[04:23] <minerale> oh thanks mrrothstein
[04:23] <chuckyp> sekhar, I don't know what xifc is but if you mean xfce its pretty neat if you are running on older hardware uses a lot less resources etc... you can install that by adding xubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <pluto> How can I find the HOWTO docs in Ubuntu?
[04:24] <MrRothstein> anybody has any guesses about the sound problem?
[04:24] <MrRothstein> seems to work as root but not as a user
[04:24] <chuckyp> pluto, the desktop guide?
[04:24] <tritium> pluto: they're in the doc-linux-* packages
[04:24] <debbb_> MrRothstein, whats the permission on your sound device?
[04:24] <MrRothstein> is that /dev/snd/* ?
[04:24] <sekhar> chuckyp, waht about fluxbox
[04:24] <sid> How can I tell if I have any non-free software on my Ubuntu machine?
[04:24] <MrRothstein> i chmodded everything there to 666
[04:25] <MrRothstein> still didnt work
[04:25] <sid> ie, non-free firmware/drivers or something.
[04:25] <ed101> try "killall esd"
[04:25] <sid> non-free(launchpad crap is installed)
[04:25] <debbb_> MrRothstein yes
[04:25] <kholerabbi> if I log out on a livecd how do I log back in? I mean, what is the username and password?
[04:25] <chuckyp> sekhar, they all have their own perks but it depends what you are really looking for?  If you have newer hardware and you want a lot of eye candy I would go with kde.  If you have older harware and need the speed check out xfce.  Personally I use gnome but occasionally switch to kde depending on my mood.
[04:25] <seamus7> Which folder would an application like Check
[04:25] <seamus7> oops
[04:25] <pluto> tritium: where is that?
[04:25] <debbb_> MrRothstein they should show that root and group audio ahs read/write access.. make sure your user is in the grup called audio
[04:26] <MrRothstein> ed101, esd: no process killed
[04:26] <seamus7> Which folder would an app like CheckGmail install into ... I'm looking for its panel icons but they're not in the default usr/share/pixmaps directory
[04:26] <pluto> tritium: I tried looking in /usr/share/doc, but there is no HOW TO directory
[04:26] <ed101> MrRothstein hmm.. no esd running ..
[04:27] <MrRothstein> ed101, right, but if i su root, i can run esd and hear a sound
[04:27] <MrRothstein> but get an error as a user
[04:27] <debbb_> read what i said above
[04:27] <debbb_> :)
[04:27] <ed101> like debb said, see if your user has sound permission in <system> <Adminis..><Users and groups>
[04:28] <pluto> Need help with screen resolution.. Intel I740 video card.
[04:28] <MrRothstein> debbb_, whats the command to add user to group?
[04:28] <sekhar> chuckyp, you herad of window maker?
[04:28] <debbb_> MrRothstein usermod -G -a
[04:28] <tritium> MrRothstein: adduser <username> <groupname>
[04:29] <debbb_> usermod -G -a audio youruser
[04:29] <berent> unable to open a vcd
[04:29] <berent> mplayer says seek failed
[04:30] <chuckyp> !tell berent about codecs
[04:30] <berent> totem says plugin not available
[04:30] <berent> vcd has a .dat file
[04:30] <pluto> What is beryl?
[04:31] <screechingcat> berent, play it with vlc
[04:31] <MrRothstein> should i restart now?
[04:31] <kitche> pluto: beryl is the community version of compiz it has no gnome dependencies
[04:31] <pluto> kitche: Thank you.
[04:31] <shwag> im trying to boot off the ubuntu cd, but it seems to detect that I already have it installed and goes staight to grub. Is there is way to force it to boot off the cd ?
[04:32] <debbb_> shwag sounds like u need to configure your bios to boot off cd
[04:32] <debbb_> before hdd
[04:32] <pluto> kitche: what is compiz?
[04:32] <debbb_> compiz is elite.
[04:33] <ArrenLex> compiz is a window manager which has fancy 3D effects.
[04:33] <ArrenLex> Think "you move a window and it jiggles" and you're halfway there.
[04:33] <kyo> never heard of compiz
[04:33] <kitche> pluto: it's just an eye candy window manager
[04:33] <kyo> i use blackbox
[04:33] <berent> vlc says read acccess error i/o error
[04:33] <urz> ok
[04:33] <screechingcat> kyo, the other end of the spectrum huh >
[04:33] <urz> i just cant make my sound work
[04:33] <kyo> :D
[04:34] <arepie> anybody out there have an excelent way to install ati driver? fglrx ?
[04:34] <kyo> i tried a few others but im just stickin with blackbox
[04:34] <kyo> gnome is boring
[04:34] <ArrenLex> arepie: apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:34] <berent> vlc says read acccess error i/o error screechingcat
[04:34] <screechingcat> berent, VCD support in linux is usually terrible. the only one im able to use is VLC. try Mplayer too
[04:34] <ArrenLex> MPlayer is life.
[04:34] <krayzone> fluxbox is the best windows manager in my opinion
[04:34] <kevin__> gnome you are saing boring - may you are wrong
[04:34] <rixth> Whenever sound tries to play I see "ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:224:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-7407-1160639831-13790: No such file or directory" how do I fix?
[04:34] <kyo> lol
[04:35] <kyo> just an opionion
[04:35] <krayzone> true
[04:35] <berent> tried it also it says seek failed screechingcat
[04:35] <krayzone> depends on what you running and if you prefer minimalistic or not
[04:35] <screechingcat> berent, boot into windows and watch it. no other option. thats what i do
[04:35] <debbb_> krayzone i love fluxbox too, use it on all my boxes with less good hw
[04:35] <berent> no windows
[04:35] <ArrenLex> berent: Have you tried mplayer?
[04:36] <debbb_> now tho i prefer gnome after just sticking with it in ubut
[04:36] <kyo> never tried fluxbox but it seems like the majority window manager
[04:36] <berent> yes it says "seek failed"
[04:36] <MrRothstein> it worked!!!
[04:36] <krayzone> yeah, i use them all, right now im using all command line, but Im starting to like gnome alot more then I did before. Totally agianst kde
[04:36] <arepie> ArrenLex: after install xorg-driver-fglrx, what should i do?
[04:36] <screechingcat> i need some help with running kicker in Gnome. it runs alright but when i hit the configure panel it returns errors. here's a screenshot - http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9748/screenshotkd5.png
[04:36] <pluto> kitche: So is it fair to say beryl is just another GUI?
[04:36] <MrRothstein> thank you all very much
[04:36] <ArrenLex> KDE is life.
[04:36] <debbb_> MrRothstein wha worked
[04:36] <ArrenLex> arepie: if it installs correctly, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the fglrx driver.
[04:37] <MrRothstein> adding myself to the audio group and restarting
[04:37] <krayzone> In my opinion kde is to heavy of a software for my own taste
[04:37] <debbb_> MrRothstein good
[04:37] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, KDE crawls
[04:37] <MrRothstein> thanks again
[04:37] <debbb_> np
[04:37] <kitche> pluto: correct well it's a window manager it can run on gnome KDE XFCE
[04:37] <ArrenLex> On old hardware? Maybe. Doesn't mean it sucks.
[04:37] <pluto> kitche: Thanks for the explanation!  :)
[04:37] <ArrenLex> pluto: no, it isn't. It's a window manager, like compiz, like sawfish, like kwin.
[04:37] <screechingcat> well it crawls on a P4 with 512mb ram
[04:38] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: I had a p4 with 256 MB of ram with KDE running and it was perfectly fine.
[04:38] <arepie> ArrenLex: before this, i have tried so many times, my OpenGL will still be Mesa, do you have any reason?
[04:38] <ArrenLex> arepie: there may be many reasons. Have you looked at logs?
[04:38] <pluto> ArrenLex: A window manager is foreign to me.  I am a linux newbie.  What does Windows have that would be comparable?
[04:39] <screechingcat> well, i dunno what went wrong in mine. i installed kubuntu-desktop and it just took soooo much time to even open a window that i gave up and removed it
[04:39] <cge> pluto: You can't change the wm in Windows.
[04:39] <ArrenLex> pluto: what is your concept of a "window"?
[04:39] <shwag> im trying to boot off the ubuntu cd, but it seems to detect that I already have it installed and goes staight to grub. Is there is way to force it to boot off the cd ?
[04:39] <screechingcat> pluto, explorer
[04:39] <bawnpa> what can I do to stop my machine from crashing when the clock is set backwards in time
[04:39] <arepie> yes i looked at the error, but i don't know what to do.. :-$
[04:39] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: no, explorer is the whole shell. Like gnome.
[04:39] <krayzone> in windows you can. You can install blackbox for windows. Check out boxshots.org
[04:39] <bawnpa> i put ntpdate in hourly crontab, apparently even that isn't enough
[04:39] <pluto> screechingcat: I'm not sure.
[04:39] <ArrenLex> arepie: and what was this frightening error?
[04:39] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, (foot-in-mouth)
[04:39] <bawnpa> my computer can't keep track of time! :(
[04:39] <debbb_> hi. i have 2 ubuntu machines on a wlan at home, both of them are sshing to a freebsd machine on the internet. however one of the ubuntu boxes keeps 'freezing' my ssh session: that is, it doesnt accept more input. but if i from my other machine start screen -rx i can see the output of when i type on the first machine and also any text scrolling, but i cant give any input from the first machine
[04:40] <cge> pluto: The WM is basically what controls the windows. It draws the title bars on the windows, and manages positions, and focus, and minimisation, and all of those things.
[04:40] <cge> krayzone: Oh. I didn't know that.
[04:40] <arepie> ArrenLex: i'll show you right after i install this xorg driver
[04:40] <screechingcat> does anyone here use kicker on gnome ?
[04:40] <krayzone> yeah, serach for windows managers for windows. But I stand by blackbox. Im sure if you check out boxshots.org you will definitly like it.
[04:40] <ArrenLex> o_O why would you do that?
[04:40] <ArrenLex> (@cat)
[04:40] <screechingcat> its the best dock
[04:40] <pluto> cge: I can understand that.  Can you tell me why one would want a different WM?
[04:41] <ArrenLex> pluto: some WMs are faster, some are more customisable. Depends what you like.
[04:41] <cge> pluto: They can all do different things.
[04:41] <krayzone> for somethign more light and stable. And to also customize an os to there liking with different plugins that are supoorted by the wm.
[04:41] <kyo> all window managers are all really the same concept..just depends on your taste and what you want to do i guess
[04:41] <ArrenLex> pluto: some, like beryl, can do fancy 3D things to windows, like jiggle them.
[04:41] <sproingie> compiz has jigle
[04:41] <sproingie> jiggle even
[04:41] <ArrenLex> Yes.
[04:42] <TomChire> !apf
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <krayzone> Requires some more intense hardware also
[04:42] <pluto> Thank you both ArrenLex  & cge !  I learn something new everyday
[04:42] <screechingcat> !kicker
[04:42] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 1855 kB, installed size 5576 kB
[04:42] <cge> pluto: The WM in GNOME is very easy to use and unintrusive. Beryl and Compiz have impressive graphical effects. I'm using XFWM4, which has support for things like edge-flipping and is nicer that GNOME's WM in my opinion.
[04:43] <ArrenLex> I've already forgotten: who posted http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9748/screenshotkd5.png ?
[04:43] <screechingcat> me
[04:43] <cge> pluto: And then there are WMs like WMII and Ion3, which have a completely different way of managing windows.
[04:43] <ArrenLex> "kcontrol" package, screechingcat.
[04:43] <ArrenLex> That's where the library is.
[04:43] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, thanks.
[04:43] <vertana_> I've tried multiple times to install compiz on my Edgy distro (I have NVIDIA 5700 Ultra card) and everytime it messed up my graphics.
[04:43] <vertana_> Once I had to wipe the HDD and reinstall : /
[04:43] <shwag> does the ubuntu boot disk automatically boot of the HD if it detects ubuntu is already installed?
[04:43] <cge> vertana_: Compiz and beryl tend to do that ...
[04:43] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: in the future, if something tells you it can't find a library, go to packages.ubuntu.com or packages.debian.org and use the second box -- filename search. Debian.org is faster.
[04:43] <vertana_> shawg: yes.
[04:43] <pluto> cge: I can install these WM's ontop of GNOME?
[04:43] <btboudreaux> did anyone see the beryl demo on youtube that was posted on digg? what WM was that??
[04:44] <sproingie>  compiz is mighty picky
[04:44] <ArrenLex> shwag: no.
[04:44] <vertana_> shawg: just go into your BIOS and make sure the CD boots before the HDD.
[04:44] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, YES SIR !!! UNDERSTOOD SIR !!
[04:44] <shwag> ArrenLex: then how come I can't boot off this cd ?
[04:44] <cge> pluto: You can with beryl, compiz, XFWM4, and a few others, but there isn't a really easy way to do it.
[04:44] <krayzone> pluto: you can install some wm on top of gnome, and your gnome programs will remain avaiable when you install them on top of gnome.
[04:44] <urz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/aI3jyy92.html
[04:44] <urz> that is my lspci
[04:45] <kholerabbi> i installed xgl, but I don
[04:45] <kholerabbi> 't know gow to install or use compiz
[04:45] <urz> what sound module do i install?
[04:45] <kyle__> alright so my Firefox installation is broken and its effecting synaptic, update manager.. this is the error i'm getting "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-0ubuntu5.10.3_i386.deb: error creating symbolic link `./usr/bin/firefox'
[04:45] <kyle__> "
[04:45] <PEggerr> chuckyp, I need the libssl headers because in order to build openvpn
[04:45] <btboudreaux> beryl looks a lot smoother than compiz did
[04:45] <kitche> btboudreaux: umm probably xcfe or it might have been beryl by itself
[04:45] <pluto> cge: If I don't want to install ontop of GNOME, then I what options do I have?
[04:45] <vertana_> kholerabbi: I wouldn't try it unless you backed up your data and were sure it's what you wanna try.
[04:45] <kitche> btboudreaux: umm compiz is still around
[04:45] <vertana_> khol: It's a nice project though :)
[04:45] <btboudreaux> yeah i know
[04:45] <kholerabbi> vertana_: I'm using a livecd so doesn't matter
[04:46] <bruenig> kyle__, do file /usr/bin/firefox and post the output
[04:46] <kyle__> what can i do to fix all of this while keeping all my stuff on my system
[04:46] <cge> pluto: You can use just the WM, usually. You can install it, and then select it as the session in the login screen.
[04:46] <sproingie> the ice weasels ate your firefox
[04:46] <vertana_> Aaaah.
[04:46] <cge> pluto: If there isn't a session listed there, you can write the commands in ~/.xsession, and use the
[04:46] <kyle__> ok
[04:46] <btboudreaux> you can have beryl by itself without gnome?
[04:46] <vertana_> Let me find you the link... you are using dapper correct?
[04:46] <cge> pluto: "default system session" option
[04:46] <kholerabbi> yup
[04:46] <pluto> cge: AH, like I did when I installed KDE!
[04:46] <vertana_> One second please.
[04:46] <kitche> btboudreaux: beryl doesn't need gnome unlike compiz
[04:46] <cge> pluto: Yes.
[04:46] <btboudreaux> interesting
[04:46] <kyle__> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-0ubuntu5.10.3_i386.deb: error creating symbolic link `./usr/bin/firefox'
[04:47] <cge> pluto: unfortunately, I need to leave now, so I can't tell you the specifics of how to do so.
[04:47] <vertana_> www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:47] <bruenig> kyle__, open a terminal and do this "file /usr/bin/firefox" tell me what it says...
[04:47] <vertana_> Search the page for the word "compiz"
[04:47] <kholerabbi> hmm ok thanks
[04:47] <pluto> cge: Thanks for the info.  Catch ya later.
[04:47] <kyle__> kyle@banger:~$ file /usr/bin/firefox
[04:47] <kyle__> /usr/bin/firefox: broken symbolic link to `../lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox'
[04:47] <Vexor> the water drink with a hint of sugar?
[04:47] <vertana_> I was gonna get you another (better) link.. but it's long and I'm on irssi.
[04:47] <keithhhh> what do you guys to unrar software?
[04:47] <vertana_> So it won't let me c/p it.
[04:47] <kitche> btboudreaux: but anyways I only used beryl even when it was called compiz-quinnstorm but that was just patches where now it's a full window manager
[04:47] <vertana_> www.rarlabs.com
[04:47] <vertana_> Download rar for linux.
[04:48] <vertana_> Then install it.
[04:48] <jerrcs> hi. im trying to use nfsd and mount to create a virtual directory sortof, any idea why mount locks up when i try to mount the remote filesystem?
[04:48] <screechingcat> hey ArrenLex one question. if kicker needs something from that package then how come apt-get and aptitude dint install it along with kicker ?
[04:48] <bruenig> kyle, ok follow these commands, "sudo rm /usr/bin/firefox && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox"
[04:48] <kitche> keithhhh: there is a package for ubuntu search the repos for unrar-free or unrar-nonfree
[04:48] <vertana_> After that rar files will work (almost) natively with your Archive Manager.
[04:48] <pluto> Can anyone help get my screen resolution to 85 hz?  I have a spectrum 9grl monitor and a Intel i740 video card.
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> !rar
[04:48] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:48] <kyle__> bruenig, and after that
[04:48] <bruenig> kyle, does it still fail?
[04:49] <screechingcat> keithhhh, just do sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[04:49] <arakn0> can i upgrade from warty to dapper directly??
[04:49] <bruenig> the symbolic link has been fixed at least
[04:49] <vertana_> don't use apt-get
[04:49] <bruenig> arakn0, I would guess no
[04:49] <berent> after i upgraded my breezy to dapper i think my applications haven't got upgraded
[04:49] <vertana_> Use aptitude
[04:49] <screechingcat> arakn0, you can. but it will mess up your system
[04:49] <berent> is there anything to be done
[04:49] <keithhhh> screechingcat: ya I did that but its not graphical
[04:49] <tritium> berent: that can't be
[04:49] <keithhhh> screechingcat: Im trying to switch a friend over to ubuntu as easy as possible heheh
[04:50] <screechingcat> keithhhh, after installing those two, archive manager should open rar archives too
[04:50] <kyle__> bruenig, sweet
[04:50] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: as you can see, kicker runs perfectly fine without that package. You only need that library if you want to change kicker settings. Thus it was most likely in one of the recommended packages.
[04:50] <bruenig> kyle__, that should fix firefox also
[04:50] <kyle__> don't get the error when running firefox but i don't know about the updates and what not
[04:51] <berent> tritium : lemme give example i dont have synaptic in place -dont have so many options in system->administration, my video players dont work and hell lot of other things
[04:51] <kyle__> ..didn't :/
[04:51] <bruenig> didn't fix firefox?
[04:51] <grok> can anyone tell me how i can find out which lib files aren't needed? like which ones aren't being used by any programs?
[04:51] <screechingcat> keithhhh, i know that rar and unrar are command line tools. but they add components to archive manager enabling it to open rar archives
[04:51] <kyle__> it's showing a starting firefox on the taskbar but that just closes and nothing after it
[04:51] <keithhhh> screechingcat: cool Ill ask my friend to test that
[04:51] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, but i dint even get a recommended packages list
[04:51] <ArrenLex> grok: "deborphan" will find packages that aren't in use (no other package you have installed depend on them). Is that what you want?
[04:52] <kitche> kyle_: run firefox in a console
[04:52] <bruenig> kyle__, I would assume that the /usr/lib/firefox directory is messed up
[04:52] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: I don't know what to tell you. I'm certainly not the package maintainer; I just read 'em like I call 'em.
[04:52] <vertana_> Anybody here using Irssi?
[04:52] <kitche> kyle_: might show the error for you
[04:52] <kitche> vertana_: yes
[04:52] <ArrenLex> call'em -> read'em ?> sees'em whatever.
[04:52] <berent> tritium : is it that because i upgraded from net and dint install from cd
[04:52] <grok> ArrenLex: kind of...i'm just looking to clean up my system after i remove gnome...i switched to xfce4 and i want to clear out the dependecies that aren't getting used
[04:52] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, maybe i should submit a bug or somethin ?
[04:53] <screechingcat> grok, yeah deborphan will do it
[04:53] <kyle__> no error hah just isn't running... let me do all the updates and what not and i'll be back in a few
[04:53] <bruenig> grok, I use deborphan, works pretty well
[04:53] <ArrenLex> grok: if you want to remove all gnome-dependent packages, check this out: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce.php
[04:53] <vertana_> I downloaded a theme from the site, but the picture in the background that was shown did not show up in my terminal.  Is that simply a terminal thing or Irssi thing? (Sorry if easy question... just turned to Linux :) )
[04:53] <grok> cool, thanks guys
[04:53] <bruenig> that command is probably a bit extreme, but you can cherry pick at least
[04:53] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: kicker runs fine without that package... you might file a bug if you wanted, but make sure to mark it low priority.
[04:54] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, awright thanks
[04:54] <Abst> How would I stop X from starting when I boot up, so I get a TTY?
[04:55] <ArrenLex> Abst: remove the gdm package.
[04:55] <Abst> vertana_: How so?
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> ArrenLex, you can boot to level 3 from grub ... isn't it ?
[04:55] <ArrenLex> wickedpuppy: who what where when why how? o_O
[04:55] <jafa> Hi guys, where is the best place to seek help/interact/provide feedback regarding Edgy? (LVM problems after upgrade from Dapper)
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> i remember doing it in rhel .. but not in ubuntu ..
[04:55] <vertana_> I asked about background in terminal... but it's so easy. (It's what I get for asking before trying :) )
[04:55] <tag> Does anyone have bluetooth internet connectivity through a cellphone working?
[04:55] <ArrenLex> jafa: #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <tag> I have yet to figure out what I gotta do for this
[04:56] <vertana_> I thought it would be a command, but it was simply a preference.
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> ArrenLex, in grub menu .. type e to edit ..  if you ever done acpi=off then you know what i mean .. type level 3 and grub will drop you to level 3
[04:56] <chuckyp> l
[04:56] <chuckyp> !test
[04:56] <ubotu> Failed.
[04:57] <jafa> ArrenLex: thanks
[04:57] <terranetnyc> will ubuntu run on my toshiba portege with 64megs ram?
[04:57] <ArrenLex> Wickedpuppy: sure, if you want to do it once. I was under the impression that he wanted to do it permanently? Maybe I misread.
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> no idea it will work in ubuntu though ... it works in rhel and fc3,4,5
[04:57] <wastrel> i think in debian runlevels are all the same
[04:57] <wastrel> so there's no "non x" runlevel
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> ArrenLex, ah k .. for permently then yes .. gdm be removed ... perhaps i am the one who misread
[04:57] <Abst> Why was my question stupid?
[04:57] <bruenig> terranetnyc, I think the minimum is listed as 128, xubuntu would probably be much better for a 64 meg computer
[04:57] <wastrel> so booting into runlevel 3 from grub is essentially identical as runlevel 5
[04:58] <terranetnyc> thanks!
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> wastrel, really ? wow ... then how do you say this program runs in level 3 but not in level 5 ?
[04:59] <Abst> How do I change the default windowmanager which X loads?
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> for servers its a must have .... X only on level 5 .. but servers rarely go to 5 unless the admin doesn't know what to do .. normally servers are in 3
[04:59] <Abst> hmm
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> wastrel, know any link on it ? i be happy to check it out ... my experience with servers are all rhel .. and sles
[05:00] <heatxsink> how do I install multiple xorg drivers?
[05:00] <ArrenLex> heatxsink: by installing mutiple xorg-driver-whatever packages.
[05:00] <ArrenLex> multiple *
[05:01] <heatxsink> ArrenLex, one package uninstalls another
[05:01] <heatxsink> !!!!
[05:01] <ArrenLex> heatxsink: install xorg-driver-all?
[05:01] <ArrenLex> Sorry, that's xserver-xorg-driver-all
[05:01] <Buglouse> has anyone tried to use FilaZilla for Linux?
[05:01] <Buglouse> I don't know how to install it... there is no readme
[05:02] <vertana_> BugLouse: Can you give a link?
[05:02] <Buglouse> I don't know how to install it... there is no readme
[05:02] <Buglouse> whoops
[05:02] <Buglouse> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=21558
[05:02] <Abst> Anyone know what configuration file to edit in order to change the default window manager (when using startx)?
[05:02] <vertana_> Lmao, thank you =p
[05:03] <vertana_> Buglouse: I hate to kill your day but...
[05:03] <Abst> Cmoo
[05:03] <keithhhh> nabob2010: hey
[05:03] <vertana_> Buglouse: At the vert top it specifically says it's for Windows.
[05:03] <vertana_> very*
[05:03] <Buglouse> vertana_: they have a release for linux
[05:03] <Buglouse> scroll down
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> wastrel, ?
[05:04] <nabob2010> hey everybody :)
[05:04] <ArrenLex> Abst: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/changeman.html
[05:04] <Abst> I was on that site
[05:04] <Abst> the .xinitrc thing doesnt work
[05:04] <ArrenLex> Abst: so what don't you understand?
[05:04] <bruenig> Buglouse, which one did you get?
[05:04] <keithhhh> nabob2010: see me ??
[05:04] <Abst> Arcainus: I understand it
[05:04] <Buglouse> vertana_: its beta but people have been saying thats its not buggy and its nice for a gui ftp client
[05:04] <Buglouse> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/filezilla/FileZilla_3.0.0-beta1_i386-pc-freebsd5.4.tar.bz2?download
[05:05] <nabob2010> hey keithhhh
[05:05] <Digital_Pioneer> Is anyone familiar with the changes done by the convert-to-Christian-Ubuntu script?
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> Buglouse, there is gftp .. which is also gui ftp client ... looks ok to me
[05:05] <ArrenLex> What the hell? xD The WHAT script?
[05:05] <Berto> hi - will someone tell me the default user/group owner of /var/www/* ?
[05:05] <ArrenLex> I've GOT to see this.
[05:05] <keithhhh> nabob2010:  type kei then hit tab
[05:05] <vertana_> Bug: I've yet to dl it... but try cd'ing to the directory and type sh config ( or configure) && make install
[05:05] <Abst> Digital_Pioneer: Lots of pointless ones
[05:05] <Digital_Pioneer> ArrenLex: Just search up Christian Ubuntu and hit the downloads section. A ways down, you'll see the conversion script.
[05:05] <bruenig> Digital_Pioneer, assuming it makes the only changes that Christian Ubuntu does, it probably changes the artwork and adds gnomesword
[05:05] <ArrenLex> Berto: just look at the directory. Go to /var/www and type "ls -l" and it'll tell you who the owner\group is.
[05:05] <Buglouse> .. i tried it .. was to buggy for me.. doesn't transfer the files correctly.. they become corrupt.
[05:05] <keithhhh> nabob2010: if you dont use my name I might not see the message
[05:06] <kitche> Digital_Pioneer: umm only the Ubuntu CE devs knows what it does but if it's in bash I can probably figure it out
[05:06] <Digital_Pioneer> bruenig: I wish. It messed up my internet!
[05:06] <Berto> ArrenLex, haha i know, but i changed and wanted to know what the default SHOULD be :)
[05:06] <ArrenLex> Oh...
[05:06] <bruenig> Buglouse, it looks to be precompiled binaries...
[05:06] <vertana_> It wouldn't download it.
[05:06] <Digital_Pioneer> kitche: OK, how can I get a hold of the devs?
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> Berto, apache-default is by root ..
[05:06] <Digital_Pioneer> I want to know what it did to my internet.
[05:06] <kyle__> firefox in console doesn't return anything, and synaptic is still giving me the symbollic link error
[05:06] <Berto> wickedpuppy, so it's root.apache-default ?
[05:06] <screechingcat> Digital_Pioneer, #christian-ubuntu
[05:06] <vertana_> My sister is doing downloads in the background so my internet is like 1993 dialup right now :(
[05:06] <ArrenLex> Berto: this is what mine says: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 2006-03-27 13:58 www
[05:06] <Digital_Pioneer> screechingcat: So THAT'S where they hid it... Thanks!
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> Berto, root.apache-default ??? is this java ? :P
[05:07] <bruenig> kyle__, see if there is anything in the firefox lib directory, ls /usr/lib/firefox/
[05:07] <screechingcat> Digital_Pioneer, no prob
[05:07] <bruenig> Buglouse, I would just add the extracted filezilla directory to the /opt directory and then launch it from there
[05:07] <Berto> ArrenLex, wickedpuppy thanks
[05:07] <vertana_> brue: Why /opt ?
[05:08] <ArrenLex> kyle__: why don't you just reinstall firefox? apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[05:08] <bruenig> vertana_, well /opt or ;
[05:08] <Digital_Pioneer> screechingcat: You sure about that/
[05:08] <bruenig> vertana_, well /opt or /usr/local or I suppose wherever, that is where I put stuff like that
[05:08] <pluto> From the command line, how can I search for my xorg.config file?
[05:08] <kyle__> bruenig, there's a bunch of stuff in that folder
[05:08] <O2> hello.........
[05:08] <vertana_> brue: Ah.  I thought there was a specific reason.
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> pluto, its i /etc/X11
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> pluto, its in /etc/X11
[05:08] <screechingcat> Digital_Pioneer, i remember reading it somehwere. y what happened ?
[05:08] <ArrenLex> pluto: xorg.conf is in /etc/X11. Generally, you can search for files by using the command "find <path> -name <filename>"
[05:08] <pluto> wickedpuppy: Thakns.
[05:08] <bruenig> vertana_, I read some stuff about the filesystem and it seemed to say that /opt is intended for that purpose
[05:08] <O2> must I put all my softwares open source in ubuntu ?
[05:08] <Digital_Pioneer> screechingcat: Doesn't exist.
[05:09] <bruenig> kyle__, do /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[05:09] <vertana_> brue: What purpose is that exactly?
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> O2, why ... you sure love this channel ...
[05:09] <screechingcat> Digital_Pioneer, just search the Wiki. thats were i found out about it first
[05:09] <btboudreaux> what does beryl look like without gnome? cant find any screenshots
[05:09] <O2> wickedpuppy:   I want to develop my games
[05:09] <kyle__> bruenig, it does nothing
[05:09] <screechingcat> does using Tor slow down your internet speed ?
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> O2, are you using opensource libraries ?
[05:09] <Buglouse> bruenig: do you mean move it to there and double click it?
[05:09] <vertana_> 02: Yes you must put in deb... it's the way of the future =p
[05:10] <bruenig> vertana_, to just hold the miscellaneous programs and stuff that don't go with everything else. So since everything else is gotten by apt-get, I put all compiled stuff or manual stuff in there
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> O2, let me be specific ... are you using GPL libraries ?
[05:10] <Digital_Pioneer> screechingcat: My web browsers don't work.
[05:10] <kdean06> What is the proper way to file a bug with Edgy?
[05:10] <vertana_> brue: Thanks... I might start doing that myself. currently EVERYTHING just goes into my $user
[05:10] <screechingcat> Digital_Pioneer, what happened ? i will look it up
[05:10] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I wonder do I have to open source my developments under linux
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> O2, thats why i am asking you ... are you using any GPL libraries ?
[05:11] <O2> If I don't use any GPL libs...
[05:11] <Digital_Pioneer> screechingcat: I installed that infernal script, which messed something up and now my web browsers won't go online! :(
[05:11] <RnB-Tunes> hi
[05:11] <vertana_> 02: It depends on who's toes your stepping on.
[05:11] <screechingcat> kdean06, first make sure that it is a bug and you arent doing something wrong
[05:11] <screechingcat> Digital_Pioneer, ok hold on
[05:11] <Digital_Pioneer> screechingcat: The odd thing is, I'm using this IRC on the same box.
[05:11] <vertana_> 02: If you use open source code... open source it goes.
[05:11] <pluto> I think I have a problem; I have 6 xorg.config files in X11.  What file is being used?
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[05:12] <SuperMiguel> http://apache.pastebin.ca/200354
[05:12] <THX-1138> Has anyone tried the colinux kernel?
[05:12] <ArrenLex> O2: of course you don't have to release the source of your programs unless you want to. Just make sure, if you're linking against LGPL libs, to link dynamically.
[05:12] <SuperMiguel> any ideas how to fix it
[05:12] <bruenig> Buglouse, nevermind, for some reason my binaries won't launch, but that is the idea. Or you could just create a launcher or menu shortcut, I don't know why my binaries aren't launching
[05:12] <screechingcat> there are spammers on IRC too ?
[05:12] <O2> vertana_: If i write a little program that doesn't deppends on any other libraries, then do I have to open source?
[05:12] <Trae> !grub
[05:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:12] <bruenig> kyle__, do "file /usr/lib/firefox/firefox"
[05:12] <vertana_> 02: No.
[05:12] <Lord_Kitchener> screechingcat: of course
[05:12] <ArrenLex> THX: what is the colinux kernel? I've tried using co-linux.
[05:12] <kdean06> screechingcat, I'm certain it's not me. Not sure if it's crashing, or focibly unloading, but the usbserial module drops. And attempting to reinsert it prompts a fatal error.
[05:13] <vertana_> 02: If you feel like being a nice guy and releasing a .bin that will do my math for the rest of my life... you wouldn't have to open source that =p
[05:13] <screechingcat> kdean06, launchpad.net
[05:13] <THX-1138> ArrenLex: Saw something on slashdot and i am interested.
[05:13] <O2> vertana_:  If I use a GPL library and I didn't modify it..... so ?
[05:13] <vertana_> 02: Of course, open source is always appreciated and helps people learn to program and advance their programming skills (along with improving your program)
[05:14] <ArrenLex> THX: what is the colinux kernel?
[05:14] <vertana_> 02: To be honest I'm not sure (I've never tried to dance on the edge of that one).
[05:14] <Lord_Kitchener> ArrenLex: co-linux allows you to run linux on windows almost natively
[05:14] <ArrenLex> O2: libraries are typically licensed under the LGPL. Programs are typically licensed under the GPL. Chances are, you won't find a GPL library.
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[05:14] <THX-1138> ArrenLex: I guess i need a bit more study. - The one page i found had kernel releases.
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[05:14] <ArrenLex> !mods
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mods - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <ArrenLex> !mod
[05:15] <bruenig> kyle__, what was the output for file /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> ArrenLex, you mean ops ?
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> well he left .. oh well
[05:15] <vertana_> Does anybody know when the Flash 9 beta will be out or is that still speculation at this point?
[05:15] <O2> ArrenLex:  If my program deppends on a LGPL library, but doesn't modify the library, do I have to open source my program?
[05:15] <pluto> I think I have a problem; I have 6 xorg.config files in X11.  What file is being used?
[05:15] <Digital_Pioneer> screechingcat: Are you sure there IS a wiki for Ubuntu CE? Using another box, I can't find one.
[05:15] <kyle__> bruenig, /usr/lib/firefox/firefox: Bourne shell script text executable
[05:15] <Lord_Kitchener> vertana_: Flash 9 beta has been out for a while now
[05:15] <vertana_> Lord: For Linux? : /
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> O2, why are you against opensourcing the game ? i am curious ..
[05:16] <Lord_Kitchener> vertana_: yeah not sure where you can get it though
[05:16] <vertana_> I know where to get it.
[05:16] <vertana_> My best friend... google =p
[05:16] <bruenig> kyle__, that is odd, how the symbolic link could be broken, I have no idea. It is there, the symbolic link shouldn't be broken.
[05:16] <ixian_> is there a program for linux/ubuntu that allows 'widgets' on the desktop? similar to yahoo widgets for windows..
[05:16] <vertana_> I'll be back with either bad news or a link in a minute =P
[05:17] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I mean all programs, not only game
[05:17] <kyle__> bruenig, thanks
[05:17] <bruenig> kyle__, when you did ls /usr/lib/firefox, were there 33 things listed?
[05:17] <ArrenLex> O2: if you dynamically link to the library, no. If you link statically, yes
[05:17] <Dr_willis> !info gdesklets
[05:17] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[05:17] <ArrenLex> wickedpuppy: ops, mods, same thing. =P Thanks.
[05:17] <Trae> are there any grub experts here... I've read the grub help pages and can't seem to be able to do the following:  Ubuntu - /dev/hda1  ,  Mandriva - /dev/hda5   I want to be able to boot to both.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> ixian_,  gdesklets for gnome, superkaramba for kde
[05:18] <O2> ArrenLex:  :-)  clearly, thanks!
[05:18] <Trae> in Ubuntu ATM.
[05:18] <ArrenLex> vertana: Flash 9 for Linux is "officially" slated for early 2007.
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> O2, there are commercial libraries ... qt for apps ... and garagegames.com torque game engine for games
[05:18] <kdean06> screechingcat, When attempting to connect in AT or p2k mode to a V3 RAZR, usbserial is unloaded. How would i trace the explicit cause of this? Like... To see if it's crashing (and where, if possible) or just vanishing...
[05:18] <wastrel> wickedpuppy:  by default i believe runlevels 3-5 are identical in debian, but users can of course customize
[05:18] <bruenig> ArrenLex, but the beta...
[05:18] <ArrenLex> vertana: follow the progress at blogs.adobe.com/Penguin.SWF
[05:18] <wastrel> was afk :] 
[05:18] <ixian_> Dr_willis:  thanks
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> wastrel, its ok .. got a link for me ?
[05:19] <O2> ArrenLex: If I modify the LGPL library for my program, I only need to open source the modify library?
[05:19] <bruenig> I would settle for alpha at this point, anything is better than this flash 7 garbage.
[05:19] <vertana_> ArrenLex: Thanks... unfortunately they are still on the same last topic (Librarian) as last I checked.
[05:19] <kyle__> bruenig, yes... what happened i think is.. i was following the instructions for installing the NewVersion of firefox from the ubuntu.org wiki and something went wrong so i never got 1.5.0.4 .. 0.7 installed and now 1.0.7 isn't working
[05:19] <vertana_> Ah well... in due time.  Hopefully it will outshine what they currently have out for Linux :)
[05:19] <O2> ArrenLex:  and no need to open source my program, am I right?
[05:19] <bruenig> kyle__, you are using breezy?
[05:19] <ArrenLex> bruenig: the blog I linked to says the beta will be out "soon".
[05:19] <kyle__> bruenig, so i was instructed to upgrade to dapper, that's when i found out the symbollic link error
[05:20] <kyle__> yes breezy
[05:20] <ArrenLex> O2: no, you don't have to open-source your library unless you statically link to LGPL libraries or link to GPL libraries.
[05:20] <silly_girl22> pluto; grep patter /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:20] <silly_girl22> i meant pattern
[05:20] <silly_girl22> pluto: i misunderstood. you should do one of these too.   "sudo updatedb;locate xorg.conf" or "find -name xorg.conf /'
[05:20] <ArrenLex> O2: unless you want to =P How about it? Why not open source?
[05:20] <silly_girl22> kdean06: bugzilla
[05:20] <silly_girl22> !bugs
[05:20] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[05:20] <silly_girl22> and make sure the bug hasnt been reported or solved
[05:20] <terranetnyc> join #xubuntu
[05:20] <silly_girl22> and theres a bug software reporting tool
[05:20] <silly_girl22> does gnome have anything like KTorrent?
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> O2, btw ... isn't it more of questions for lawyers ? surely you are not going to take our words for it ? unless ArrenLex is a IP lawyer ... :P
[05:20] <bruenig> kyle__, ah, well, these were all intended for dapper. I don't remember breezy well enough to instruct that. I assume they would be similar but perhaps not
[05:20] <screechingcat> silly_girl22, ktorrent
[05:21] <screechingcat> silly_girl22, whats wrong with using it in gnome. thats what i do.
[05:21] <silly_girl22> screechingcat: thats what i said
[05:21] <bruenig> they should really put out an alpha, the only reason they decided against it is they have known bugs and they don't want people complaining about stuff they already know about.
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:21] <screechingcat> silly_girl22, and thats the answer too
[05:21] <vertana_> 02: Yeah I wouldn't trust anyone here strictcly for legal reasons, although I'm sure all the input they've given is correct or at least helpful... I wouldn't trust my remaining years or diginity on it =p
[05:21] <bruenig> utorrent rules all
[05:21] <O2> wickedpuppy & ArrenLex:  I will open source most of time, I ask only because I don't quite understand those licenses
[05:21] <vertana_> (Not even my own input for that matter :P)
[05:22] <screechingcat> bruenig, not on linux it doesent. on windows it does
[05:22] <kyle__> bruenig, do you know any instructions for upgrading to dapper
[05:22] <vertana_> I'm pretty sure I just negated all I said :P
[05:22] <silly_girl22> screechingcat: you know what i mean. a program made for gnome with gtk.
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> O2, as i said you can develop programs in qt ... then you can decide opensource or buy their license .. same with torque game engine
[05:22] <bruenig> screechingcat, still rules in linux, use it everyday all day, never close it
[05:22] <silly_girl22> bruenig: i dont believe that is for linux
[05:22] <ArrenLex> O2: have you read them? xD
[05:22] <screechingcat> silly_girl22, yes i know. but none of them are quite as good. and ktorrent works without any problems in Gnome. so why bother with anything else ?
[05:23] <bruenig> if you are going to use non native apps, might as well go with utorrent and get wine, since that is the best client hands down
[05:23] <O2> ArrenLex:  they are too long and there're some chapters I am not quite sure
[05:23] <screechingcat> bruenig, it slows down to a fraction of my download speed while running on linux
[05:23] <bruenig> screechingcat, that's a lie
[05:23] <silly_girl22> screechingcat: is ktorrent your #1 torrent software?
[05:23] <wasabi_> Anybody have a quick link to a howto on mastering your own live cd?
[05:23] <screechingcat> silly_girl22, yup
[05:23] <ArrenLex> O2: yes, a license being too long is a pretty good reason not to read it.
[05:24] <O2> ArrenLex: I am new on linux
[05:24] <Lord_Kitchener> wasabi_: look up babytux it has one
[05:24] <screechingcat> bruenig, its not a LIE. it might be a problem with my comp.
[05:24] <bruenig> it doesn't make sense why it would be slower
[05:24] <screechingcat> bruenig, or my connection. but y would i lie ?
[05:24] <O2> ArrenLex:  I would read it hardly later : P
[05:24] <bruenig> how do you even gauge that. Have you tried the same exact torrent with multiple clients? Even then the swarm and speeds may be lower at that point
[05:24] <silly_girl22> screechingcat: i have it. i havent used it yet, but im looking for a torrent now. bit tornado has worked good for me. i found ktorrent in suse live dvd.
[05:25] <minerale> I used gparted to resize my main ntfs partition... now that partition is empty... omg what can I do ?
[05:25] <vertana_> If I were to acquire OpenSSl would Irssi automatically recognize this?
[05:25] <ArrenLex> O2: GPL library means you must release source. LGPL library means you don't have to release source if you link dynamically.
[05:25] <screechingcat> bruenig, yes i did. (azureus, ktorrent and utorrent) and decided ktorrent was the best
[05:25] <screechingcat> bruenig, for linux that is
[05:25] <bruenig> for speed?
[05:25] <bruenig> they should all be the same, they are all using the same protocol there is no difference there.
[05:25] <screechingcat> bruenig, yeah
[05:25] <O2> Arr en,,,
[05:26] <screechingcat> silly_girl22, make sure you load the uPNP plugin to speed it up
[05:26] <ArrenLex> Like an arr pirate. o_o
[05:26] <O2> ArrenLex:   en, I think I have to read it later, to get the most understanding
[05:26] <ArrenLex> Yes, I too think that's the best way to get the most understanding out of a license. By reading it.
[05:26] <bruenig> screechingcat, unless you tested it in a substantive way, the voodoo, oh it went faster for the five minutes I was using it here doesn't make sense because speed varies on bittorrent by the nature of the protocol
[05:27] <screechingcat> bruenig, i get around 25-30 kBps on windows (utorrent) and 1-3kBps on linux (utorrent) and 1-5kBps(azureus) and Ktorrent matches my windows speed
[05:27] <O2>  : P
[05:27] <j0rg3> Hi
[05:28] <screechingcat> bruenig, yes i tested it properly. i downloaded a whole torrent in about 2 and a half days (utorrent + wine)
[05:28] <O2> I think I would open source, because I learn from them
[05:28] <bruenig> screechingcat, right but torrents vary in that way. You can be humming along at 150 KBs and then drop down to 20 KBs, the speeds are completely dependent on the peers which fluctuate
[05:29] <O2> I learnt a lot from open source
[05:29] <silly_girl22> screechingcat: how do i do that? does that plugin come with it?
[05:29] <bruenig> but whatever, it doesn't really make sense if a client is using the same protocol and the same ports and the same network how it could possible be slower inherently
[05:29] <screechingcat> silly_girl22, yeah it does. go to configure ktorrent and hit the plugins tab and load upnp
[05:30] <screechingcat> bruenig, one of the few great mysteries about my computer that i am yet to solve
[05:30] <j0rg3> Wow.  I am an Ubuntu n00b and I think I may havw jumpws in the wrong end of the pool.
[05:31] <j0rg3> jumped, rather
[05:31] <bruenig> screechingcat, maybe if you were behind a router and couldn't get the ports forwarded or something. I just have a dsl modem so it all tends to be the same as there is no need for forwarding.
[05:31] <ArrenLex> j0rg3: What happen? xD
[05:31] <screechingcat> bruenig, i am behind a router. but then how can u explain the way ktorrent works fine behind the router too ?
[05:31] <j0rg3> ArrentLex:  This is all way over my head.
[05:32] <screechingcat> A new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsetter is out
[05:32] <silly_girl22> screechingcat: i dont understand that plugin. its for port forwarding? how can it set up port forwarding on my router?
[05:32] <ArrenLex> j0rg: what is?
[05:32] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[05:32] <ArrenLex> !hi
[05:32] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:32] <vertana_> Lol.
[05:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Since the upgrade of Firefox to 1.5 in breezy, my media plugins are messed up.
[05:33] <screechingcat> silly_girl22, i dont think its for port forwarding. im not sure but it might be insecure for your computer too. but i just hit load and torrents speed up massively
[05:33] <bruenig> screechingcat, well you were talking about the upnp plugin. That is essentially what that does I think. Never looked to deeply into that as I don't need it. But I thought upnp had something to do with port forwarding and the like.
[05:34] <j0rg3> The conversation 'twixt screechingcat and bruenug.
[05:34] <EnsignRedshirt> Can anyone play the program availabe from the blue "speaker" button at this web page in Firefox: http://www.thislife.org/
[05:34] <EnsignRedshirt> *available
[05:34] <screechingcat> j0rg3, dont listen to it. i dont listen to half the ones goin on in here
[05:34] <j0rg3> LOL
[05:34] <railz> i'm playing around with fstab, I've never known a way of linux to 'reissue' whats in fstab without rebooting
[05:34] <noxxle> why does edgy take twice as long to boot?
[05:34] <railz> is there a way to do that?
[05:34] <noxxle> dapper took me 50s, edgy is taking 2min
[05:35] <j0rg3> I am n00b -- it sux
[05:35] <noxxle> lol
[05:35] <cuma_cumi> hmm
[05:35] <screechingcat> i hate the new edgy usplash
[05:35] <noxxle> also, edgy recognizes my soundcard, however it doesnt recognize my speakers!
[05:35] <vertana_> I like the new one better than Dapper.
[05:35] <noxxle> HOW SILLY IS THAT
[05:35] <vertana_> It's cleaner.
[05:35] <vertana_> (Although I would still like the messages to be there)
[05:35] <screechingcat> the dapper one is just fine. but they should just lose the text
[05:35] <bruenig> j0rg3, none of this has to do with ubuntu or linux. The same conversation could be had in a nerdy windows room.
[05:36] <noxxle> is anyone else getting longer boots under edgy??
[05:36] <cuma_cumi> i think dapper make ubuntu more friendly ya
[05:36] <j0rg3> Maybe - but Windows suxks.
[05:36] <screechingcat> j0rg3, or in #utorrent or #torrents or whatever
[05:36] <vertana_> My boot time decreased.
[05:36] <screechingcat> noxxle, me me me
[05:36] <noxxle> also can you recommend me a app that i can monitor my system's temperature??
[05:36] <bruenig> screechingcat, I hate that usplash too. Kind of makes you keep the ugly theme just to keep everything consistent. Hopefully people will come out with new usplashes though because this one is so pronounced for different themes.
[05:37] <flowbot> how do i set extra PATH variables in edgy? from what i remember, it is in ~/bash_profile, but it's not working ... it's not even picking up my home ~/bin folder
[05:37] <screechingcat> bruenig, i agree completely
[05:37] <ArrenLex> flowbot: isn't your path in /etc/environment?
[05:37] <j0rg3> I don't understand most of what I see.  I am *SO* n00b.
[05:38] <screechingcat> i heard someone was building a graphical usplash changing app. what happened to it ?
[05:38] <flowbot> ArrenLex, i'll check it out ... but isn't there a way of doing it per user, rather than globally?
[05:38] <EnsignRedshirt> railz: I'm not sure it will do exactly what you want, but check out the -a option in the mount command.
[05:38] <rredd4> aru  hi...
[05:38] <noxxle> also can you recommend me a app that i can monitor my system's temperature??
[05:38] <fdelacruz> sir anyone know ip subnetting
[05:38] <vertana_> j0rg3: It takes time and experience (neither of which I have yet :P).  Please refrain from using words such as "n00b."
[05:38] <screechingcat> j0rg3, start at the ubuntu wiki. read some random pages. whenever you see something you find intereseting in IRC but dont understand it, then look it up on wikipedia or the wiki
[05:38] <bruenig> screechingcat, a script should do. Just one that asks for the path to the usplash and then does its thing shouldn't be hard once somebody figures out or knows how exactly you go about changing the usplash
[05:39] <j0rg3> Sorry, why is it bad to refer to myslef as that forbidden term?
[05:39] <wastrel> bah why won't my printerrrrr print i hate printers
[05:39] <vertana_> j0rg3: It implies ignorance and/or immaturity.
[05:40] <flowbot> it implies ... noobity
[05:40] <wastrel> dear people.  i have a breezy system with a printer that works, and am trying to print to it from my dapper system.
[05:40] <sladen> bruenig: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[05:40] <screechingcat> bruenig, yeah thats true
[05:40] <bruenig> j0rg3, you catch on quickly. If you stay in here and try to follow along as much as possible when people ask and answer question with your own system, you will learn a lot. That is where I learned nearly all I know.
[05:40] <wastrel> how do i get this working?
[05:40] <vertana_> j0rg3: I haven't used Linux for very long, but I've learned all my knowledge here and www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:40] <screechingcat> wastrel, what ?
[05:40] <ArrenLex> noxxle: if you just want to see what the temperature is, you can just use "cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature"
[05:40] <vertana_> Not all.. but a vast portion :)
[05:41] <ArrenLex> noxxle: if you want to monitor it, try gkrellm
[05:41] <wastrel> screechingcat:  printer
[05:41] <j0rg3> Ok.  I will strike that term from my vocabulary.
[05:41] <screechingcat> wastrel, repeat please  ?
[05:41] <wastrel> i have a breezy system with a printer that works, and am trying to print to it from my dapper system.
[05:42] <screechingcat> via network >
[05:42] <screechingcat> ?
[05:42] <wastrel> yes
[05:42] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: network printer. The printer is on one computer. How does he print to it from another?
[05:42] <rredd4> what driver should I use for lexmark  printer in dapper?
[05:43] <screechingcat> wastrel, sorry mate. i have no idea about network printers. just be patient and someone who DOES know will answer
[05:43] <Trae> I've made changes to /boot/grub/menu.lst   how do I propogate those to the MBR?
[05:44] <j0rg3> Time for me to sleep-sleep-sleep.  Thanks!  Talk to your l8r.
[05:44] <Healot> Trae: you want to install grub onto MBR?
[05:44] <sproingie> Trae: you don't.  grub will read it
[05:44] <Lord_Kitchener> Trae: you don't do anything since grub will see your changes automatically
[05:44] <Trae> heh
[05:44] <Trae> I used the restore line
[05:44] <Trae> from ! grub
[05:45] <Trae> the bot help
[05:45] <Trae> and got back into my system
[05:45] <Trae> but grub, on my mbr isn't reading that Ubuntu /boot/grub/menu.lst now
[05:45] <Trae> I need ot know how to re-install it
[05:45] <screechingcat> does removing openoffice break a lot of thing in dapper ?
[05:46] <sproingie> screechingcat: doesnt break anything
[05:46] <Lord_Kitchener> screechingcat: open office isn't a dependency for anything
[05:46] <screechingcat> sproingie, really ? even though it is so tightly integrated ?
[05:46] <sproingie> screechingcat: it's not really integrated with anything
[05:47] <screechingcat> coz im planning to install gnome-office and remove openoffice
[05:47] <screechingcat> good choice ?
[05:47] <sproingie> not really
[05:47] <sproingie> gnumeric's a good spreadsheet.  everything else sucks.
[05:47] <wastrel> i like gnumeric good
[05:47] <sproingie> was one of the first gnome apps too
[05:47] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: gnomeoffice isn't very good.
[05:47] <sproingie> it's aged pretty well
[05:48] <screechingcat> i dont use the office suites that much. but whenever i do its just for reading a few docs and spreadsheets and openoffice is VERY slow for that
[05:48] <EnsignRedshirt> screechingcat: In breezy, the metapackage ubuntu-desktop depends on openoffice.
[05:48] <ubuntu> heloo
[05:48] <ubuntu> hello
[05:48] <seamus7> Hi all ... anyone available to help me find a program's system tray icons (CheckGmail) ... I want to edit them to make them transparent but just can't find them. Ugh!
[05:48] <sproingie> openoffice is slow all right, but it's got the function
[05:48] <ArrenLex> Ensign: yes, but you can remove metapackages safely.
[05:48] <sproingie> if you just want a light wp, try abiword
[05:48] <AJ--> can i run the latest ubuntu release on 400mghz pc??
[05:48] <EnsignRedshirt> ArrenLex: Yup, I was just about to say that :)
[05:49] <Healot> sure; with 256MB if you want to run the desktop :)
[05:49] <ArrenLex> seamus7: they're not in /usr/share/icons?
[05:49] <sproingie> which is of course the WP for gnome-office ... heh
[05:49] <screechingcat> sproingie, i already have abiword. thats what gave me the idea to get the rest of the suite
[05:49] <ArrenLex> seamus7: try dpkg -L <packagename> to see what files the package installed.
[05:49] <seamus7> ArrenLex: let me check ... I looked in usr/share/pixmaps
[05:49] <AJ--> but i only have 128MB
[05:49] <ArrenLex> AJ: you CAN... but it won't be pretty.
[05:49] <AJ--> would it still be possible?
[05:49] <ArrenLex> AJ: I strongly suggest you run xubuntu or something even more lightweight.
[05:49] <sproingie> screechingcat: well abiword really isn't even all that great, it's more like wordpad than word
[05:50] <mister_roboto> AJ--: are you comfortable with command line only?  :)
[05:50] <AJ--> im not coz in new with linux
[05:50] <AJ--> i want to learn
[05:50] <screechingcat> sproingie, ah well ok. abiword stays then
[05:50] <mister_roboto> AJ--: 128MB is painfully low
[05:50] <bruenig> AJ--, it is possible 128 is listed as the minimum. It may not be too fast but it would be viable
[05:50] <AJ--> yeah i know
[05:50] <screechingcat> sproingie, my mistake. that was openoffice stays then
[05:51] <AJ--> gonna give a try
[05:51] <frotz661> does anyone here have a step by step guide on getting wifi with WPA working on a thinkpad T42?
[05:51] <PMantis> Anyone know how to move a NIC from eth2 to eth1?
[05:51] <sproingie> screechingcat: if you need to open office docs, you probably want to keep openoffice
[05:51] <wastrel> i like oowriter better than abiword
[05:51] <ArrenLex> AJ: again, recommend xubuntu.
[05:51] <wastrel> now that my computer can manage oowriter at a decent speed
[05:51] <AJ--> tnx i guess i should download that one
[05:51] <AJ--> tnx a lot
[05:51] <Zambezi> I need to transfer files between two Ubuntu computers. I'm using gftp and installed openssh on both computers, using SSH2 as transfer, but it's so slow. How can I make it faster then 1300 KB/s?
[05:51] <screechingcat> sproingie, i tested that. abiword opens docs pretty well
[05:52] <ArrenLex> I never understood why openoffice was so fantastically large and slow. It's slower than MS office. And yet less features. how?
[05:52] <screechingcat> sproingie, i have oo.o on windows too
[05:52] <seamus7> ArrenLex: I don't see them in usr/share/icons .... hmmm
[05:52] <ArrenLex> seamus: have you tried the dpkg -L thing?
[05:52] <bruenig> I like abiword better but I have too many .odt files and too many .doc files now to switch to it. Abiword doesn't open .doc files too well.
[05:52] <sproingie> ArrenLex: it's mostly written in java
[05:52] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: can you save as pdf yet in ms office?
[05:52] <MaKaTiGuY> question, is it possible to use voice chat in Gaim?
[05:52] <seamus7> ArrenLex: I'm sorry to say I don't know what that is.
[05:52] <sproingie> ArrenLex: that itself isn't necessarily bad, but it's really old cruddy java
[05:52] <ArrenLex> MaKaTiGuy: answer, no.
[05:53] <frotz661> PMantis: there's an program for renaming interfaces.  looking up the name now
[05:53] <ArrenLex> seamus: what package did you install this mysterious program from?
[05:53] <bruenig> seasmus7, do locate checkgmail and look in all of those places
[05:53] <n8k99> !gaim
[05:53] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[05:53] <daver2u> is there any way to create a link on the panel to an app you want to run as sudo
[05:53] <awilcox> Is there a program like scp but it moves files instead?
[05:53] <PMantis> frotz661, I've looked in /etc/iftab, not there.
[05:53] <screechingcat> MaKaTiGuY, no not in the normal release. but there is a fork which is specially meant for VoIP and Video
[05:53] <daver2u> kinda like root terminal
[05:53] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: the fork is gaim-vv and it is dead.
[05:53] <frotz661> PMantis: hang on.  I forgot the name.  looking...
[05:54] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, dead ?
[05:54] <PMantis> frotz661, I have an eth0, and suddently eth1 is now eth2 ?
[05:54] <EnsignRedshirt> daver2u: start the program with gksudo.
[05:54] <PMantis> frotz661, NP. :)
[05:54] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: dead.
[05:54] <mister_roboto> awilcox: you mean as in deleting the original?
[05:54] <daver2u> will try
[05:54] <seamus7> ArrenLex: The program is CheckGmail ... I believe I added a repository (Asher ...) to get this program
[05:54] <awilcox> mister_roboto, right.
[05:54] <bruenig> daver2u, right click, add to panel, custom application launcher, put whatever command you want and the other information and that should be good. It is important to note that it is recommended you use gksudo not sudo for graphical apps
[05:54] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: based on a version of GAIM < 1.0. Not ever going to be merged. No longer developed. Dead.
[05:54] <frotz661> PMantis: ifrename is what you want.  You can force interfaces based on their MAC addresses to specific names
[05:54] <daver2u> sick
[05:54] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, damn it
[05:54] <ArrenLex> seamus: how did you install it? "apt-get install checkgmail"?
[05:54] <sproingie> ArrenLex: actually i think most of the staroffice code was some some unholy java to C++ conversion
[05:55] <PMantis> frotz661, Ahh, makes sense. thanks
[05:55] <mister_roboto> awilcox: you could always front end scp with a script that deletes the files afterward :)     no, don't know of such a program
[05:55] <PMantis> frotz661, Kinda weird how a reboot changed tings though...
[05:55] <frotz661> PMantis: yeah.  that's why ifrename was written.
[05:55] <daver2u> ok has anyone ever had java apps come up as a blank screen (could this be a beryl thing
[05:55] <ArrenLex> sproingie: I've used staroffice. My school's SUN thinclients have it for some bizarre reason. It wasn't better.
[05:55] <frotz661> so, any WAP users?
[05:55] <daver2u> it seems just java apps though
[05:55] <Zambezi> Transfer files between two Ubuntucomputer? Need help.
[05:55] <Lord_Kitchener> frotz661: I use a script for WPA for me
[05:55] <bruenig> staroffice is what ooffice is based on
[05:55] <fdelacruz> frot y?
[05:56] <awilcox> daver2u, yeah with my Java apps the windows are off the screen.
[05:56] <fdelacruz> im using linksy and symbol
[05:56] <awilcox> thankfully I don't use many Java apps :)
[05:56] <seamus7> ArrenLex: after I added a repository to my sources.list it showed up in my Synaptic Manager and I installed it that way.
[05:56] <daver2u> no no mine come up as a blank window
[05:56] <JDahl> Zambezi, you can use scp
[05:56] <sproingie> i had to use staroffice when i was at sun
[05:56] <ArrenLex> seamus: what package showed up in your Synaptic Manager? What was it called?
[05:56] <sproingie> if you think openoffice is bad, hoo boy
[05:56] <frotz661> Lord_Kitchener: can I see it (with passwords removed, of course) ?
[05:56] <rixth> Zambezi, use SAMBA.
[05:56] <seamus7> Arrenelx: CheckGmail
[05:56] <mister_roboto> god no, not samba if it's between two linux boxes
[05:57] <sproingie> tho it's better than applixware, i'll give it that
[05:57] <awilcox> Zambezi, def use scp.
[05:57] <Lord_Kitchener> frotz611: http://kitchetech.com/docs/unix/wlan.sh also it doesn't have any passwords in it anyways
[05:57] <ArrenLex> seamus: then, at the terminal, type the command "dpkg -L checkgmail".
[05:57] <awilcox> Unless you want to move files (*grumbles*)
[05:57] <rixth> mister_roboto, why not? It maxes my ethernet connection in terms of speed
[05:57] <JDahl> Zambezi, scp or rsync
[05:57] <seamus7> Arrenlex: http://checkgmail.sourceforge.net/
[05:57] <screechingcat> sudo apt-get update returns this error - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26547/ whats wrong ?
[05:57] <seamus7> ArrenLex: oh ok
[05:57] <PMantis> frotz661, I'm using Dapper, and I can't find ifrename, not even i the apt cache
[05:57] <ArrenLex> seamus: This will list all the files that checkgmail installed. Look for icons.
[05:57] <Zambezi> JDahl, rixth awilcox  Scp is slow. Only 1300 KB/s with gftp.
[05:57] <mister_roboto> rixth: because scp is FAR simpler and easier to use
[05:57] <wastrel> seamus7:  dpkg -c packagename  will list the contents of a package,
[05:57] <daver2u> hrmm i bit off more than i can figure out in 2 days with edgy eft
[05:57] <manuel_> pero
[05:58] <rixth> mister_roboto, hardly! What is easier than using something the user is already familiar with, nautilus?
[05:58] <wastrel> ah that too
[05:58] <Zambezi> JDahl, Is rsync grafic?
[05:58] <mister_roboto> rixth: he didn't say he was familiar with anything in particular
[05:58] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: does that happen to an ubuntu archive or a third-party archive?
[05:58] <clever_> what was that livecd optiono make it save all changes to a certain partition?
[05:58] <sproingie> just use konqueror and fish://
[05:58] <mister_roboto> rixth: if he's in kde, konqueror uses scp seamlessly
[05:59] <samuel> Does anyone know the package that is Cannon smash table tennis?
[05:59] <JDahl> Zambezi, no, but it's easy to use... best suited for incremental updates though.  Otherwise scp is good
[05:59] <rixth> Eh true, but if he uses Ubuntu he'll know Nautilus
[05:59] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, its the Penguin Liberation Front repo
[05:59] <seamus7> ArrenLex: thanks i'll check in the directories listed
[05:59] <rixth> mister_roboto, apparently it is slow though
[05:59] <frotz661> Lord_Kitchener: so, is the idea that you run this on bootup and everything automagically works?
[05:59] <mister_roboto> rixth: apparently you've never used it
[05:59] <wastrel> samuel:  apt-cache search tennis
[05:59] <Lord_Kitchener> frotz661: no it acts like a wifi scanner and you choose what net you want to get on
[05:59] <samuel> ta
[05:59] <ArrenLex> screechingcat: that's the problem. Apt uses encryption now. You need keys for that repo. I suggest you google on how to do this.
[06:00] <awilcox> Is there something like mc that I can use to scp?
[06:00] <Zambezi> JDahl, I installed openssh-client on the recieving computer. But 1300 KB/S is like 20% off possible speed.
[06:00] <mister_roboto> awilcox: konqueror
[06:00] <frotz661> I've created a wpa_supplicant.conf file that seems good enough for wpa_supplicant when I start it
[06:00] <wastrel> awilcox:  you can mount a remote filesystem with nautilus via scp
[06:00] <wastrel> "mount"
[06:00] <mister_roboto> awilcox: but you'll suck in a lot of kde if you're not already using it
[06:00] <clever_> theres also sshfs
[06:00] <ArrenLex> seamus7: dpkg -L lists all contents. Just look for icon files. You don't need to check directories.
[06:00] <samuel> woo found it, csmash...thanks
[06:00] <awilcox> mister_roboto, even though I do use KDE and I love it, I don't know how to mount scp...
[06:00] <clever_> which can mount a remote file system using scp
[06:00] <rixth> Bug: xchat doesn't honor the 'preferred applications' browser in Gnome.
[06:01] <mister_roboto> awilcox: use fish:// protocol in konq
[06:01] <Trae> http://www.shorttext.com/2j206h
[06:01] <frotz661> the network interface applet shows a connection through eth1, but I get host unreachables
[06:01] <JDahl> Zambezi, scp should give you higher throughput, I think... Are you on dialup?
[06:01] <Trae> that's my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:01] <mister_roboto> awilcox: look it up, it's cool
[06:01] <Trae> how would I install it.
[06:01] <awilcox> mister_roboto okay
[06:01] <Trae> if I do:  grub-install /dev/hda  will it read from /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[06:01] <bruenig> seamus7, /usr/share/app-install/icons/gmail-notify-icon.png
[06:01] <sproingie> nautilus has a ssh:// protocol, no?
[06:02] <awilcox> mister_roboto WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
[06:02] <Zambezi> JDahl, No. Fast broadband and both computer in the same room.
[06:02] <PMantis> I added a NIC to a Dapper server, it came up as eth1. I configed it, rebooted, and it came up as eth2, unconfig'd again.
[06:02] <mister_roboto> awilcox: yeah :)
[06:02] <awilcox> fish://awilcox@131.107.2.1/media/hdb1/laptop worked...I'm amazed, THANK YOU SO MUCH mister_roboto!!!!!!!
[06:02] <manuel_> microsoft
[06:02] <seamus7> bruenig: let me check there
[06:02] <screechingcat> ok anybody using the PLF repos here ?
[06:02] <ArrenLex> PMantis: nics are defined in /etc/network/interfaces. Check there?
[06:02] <bruenig> seamus7, it looks big but looks like the one that might be used
[06:03] <mister_roboto> awilcox: no problem.   :)
[06:03] <awilcox> well bye all
[06:03] <awilcox> off to go fishing :P
[06:03] <awilcox> sudo konqueror
[06:03] <awilcox> oops wrong terminal :)
[06:03] <ArrenLex> XD
[06:04] <JDahl> Zambezi, oh - you got 1.3MB/s then? I read it as 1.3KB/s
[06:04] <PMantis> ArrenLex, Yeah, it's there as eth1. only eth0 exists in /etc/iftab. eth0 comes up fine, but the next nic now skips eth1, goes to eth2
[06:04] <nicolas1> quelqu'un a remarquer que dd quitte toujours en segfault
[06:04] <awilcox> Zambezi, 10Mbps or 100Mbps?
[06:04] <awilcox> !fr
[06:04] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:05] <ArrenLex> PMantis: what would happen if you just changed eth1 to eth2 in that file?
[06:05] <ArrenLex> !fr
[06:05] <awilcox> nicolas1 said something like: Why does dd quit today with error segfault?
[06:05] <screechingcat> !plf
[06:05] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[06:05] <bruenig> kthxbai
[06:05] <awilcox> ArrenLex, I already did that :)
[06:05] <nicolas1> does anyone knows why dd always segfaults ?
[06:05] <nicolas1> :P
[06:05] <Zambezi> JDahl, awilcox  The LAN is 100 MBit. Will rsync replace openssh-server?
[06:05] <daver2u> is gnome power manager essential on a desktop?
[06:06] <ArrenLex> awilcox: I took ubotu's french as a user speaking french and helpfully directed ubotu to ubuntu-fr! =D
[06:06] <frotz661> rsync and ssh are two different beasts
[06:06] <thomas_> !bonjour
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bonjour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <thomas_> he's not french.
[06:06] <JDahl> Zambezi, isn't rsync is an intelligent frontend to ssh?
[06:06] <thomas_> JDahl no.
[06:06] <awilcox> ArrenLex thomas_ LOL
[06:07] <thomas_> JDahl: rsync is an intelligent transfer system, that can take into account a file's metadata.
[06:07] <Zeenux> Question: Can I install KDE over GNOME un Ubuntu b(not Kubuntu) and have everything still work the same way
[06:07] <jpatota> whats the file you create if you want applications to start as soon as you start X
[06:07] <awilcox> Zeenux, yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <thomas_> Zeenux: absolutely.
[06:07] <ArrenLex> Zeenux: what "everything" is this?
[06:07] <JDahl> thomas_, how does rsync transfer files?  I thought it used ssh, but maybe that's just optional
[06:07] <Zambezi> JDahl, Jag would like to transfer the files secure, but faster than 1,3 MB/s. 5 MB/s is okay, 10 MB/s would be wounderful.
[06:07] <awilcox> I play glines in KDE every now and again :)
[06:07] <Zeenux> everything is anything that I got when I installed Ubuntu
[06:08] <PMantis> ArrenLex, It may just bring the interface up... then I have to change all services that are bound to eth1
[06:08] <thomas_> Zeenux: it will replace your login screen with KDE's login screen, but you will still be able to choose to log into gnome.
[06:08] <anilomkar> I am getting an warning message "This Program cannot start until you start the dbus session service." every time i am starting Ubuntu please help me
[06:08] <awilcox> thomas_ actually no.
[06:08] <PMantis> ArrenLex, Then who knows what it'll be on the next reboot... eth3? eth4, or back to eth1?
[06:08] <Zeenux> cool, thanks. I just prefer KDE over GNOME.
[06:08] <awilcox> Zeenux, me too :)
[06:08] <PMantis> ArrenLex, /me just confused...
[06:08] <awilcox> Zeenux, also see #Kubuntu
[06:08] <nicolas1> i just made five times the same boot image and it always segfaults, but cmp results no differences between the file and the device
[06:08] <screechingcat> !cipherfunk
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cipherfunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <awilcox> nicolas1, the file is known to work?
[06:09] <Zeenux> oh, and i used to know this. How do I set up the su pass?
[06:09] <awilcox> !info cipherfunk
[06:09] <ubotu> Package cipherfunk does not exist in any distro I know
[06:09] <nicolas1> same thing when i made an extra swap file
[06:09] <awilcox> Zeenux, sudo passwd
[06:09] <Zeenux> thanks'
[06:09] <f4`vad3r> i resized a partion in winxp with partion magic (a ntfs part) that exists on the same drive as my ubuntu install, now ubuntu hangs on bootup
[06:09] <JDahl> Zambezi, scp has never been too slow for me,  but I don't know how close it comes to maxing out your network connection
[06:09] <f4`vad3r> i assume i need to boot off of a live cd and rerun grub to rewrite the bootloader, how do I do that?
[06:10] <frotz661> JDahl: rsync rides on top of ssh.  the upshot is to synchronize a directory on one machine with a directory on another while keeping the network traffic to a minimum
[06:10] <wastrel> !grub
[06:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:10] <nicolas1> awilcox: not yet, but the byte per byte comparison with cmp says its ok
[06:10] <Zambezi> JDahl, With Windows I had 7-7.5 MB/s.
[06:10] <awilcox_> grr
[06:10] <Shadow_mil> where is the limits.conf file?
[06:10] <awilcox_> stupid terminal
[06:10] <awilcox_> Zeenux
[06:10] <anilomkar> ubotu, This is Usually started automatically in X or gnome startup when you start a new sesseion
[06:10] <awilcox_> Zeenux actually it's sudo passwd root
[06:10] <seamus7> bruenig: unfortunately that's not the one ... there are actually three the program uses (new mail, no mail, and error) .... I need to find those specific ones so that I can edit them in Gimp to get a tranparent effect ... I wonder what other folder they could be in .... when I did 'dpkg -L checkgmail' the contents listed included '/usr/share/pixmaps/checkgmail.xpm' which is in fact a gmail icon but it's not one of any of the three used in the 
[06:10] <Zeenux> oh
[06:10] <JDahl> frotz661, that's what I tried to tell Zambezi
[06:10] <Zeenux> crap, it asked me and I entered. any problems?
[06:10] <awilcox_> sudo passwd changes *your* password :P
[06:11] <thomas_> .Ubotu is a robot to answer questions. it is not a person.
[06:11] <Zeenux> rofl, ok, thanks
[06:11] <nicolas1> Shadow_mil: locate limits.conf
[06:11] <Zeenux> so I'll change that back.
[06:11] <awilcox_> thomas_ actually you can talk back to it
[06:11] <awilcox_> don't remember how
[06:11] <thomas_> its intelligent, but only so much so.
[06:11] <Zambezi> JDahl, Linux can't be so much slower. I transfered the files in Windows with encryption.
[06:12] <awilcox_> How long will it take for IRC to realise I sent irssi the SIGHUP signal?
[06:12] <awilcox_> to get my un-underscored nick back?
[06:12] <wastrel> awilcox if your nick is registered, use the ghost command
[06:12] <awilcox_> no
[06:12] <nicolas1> do you people think dapper is reputed to be slower than breezy on a few pcs ?
[06:13] <awilcox_> no this isn't my reged nick
[06:13] <awilcox_> I have one
[06:13] <awilcox_> just not this one :)
[06:13] <wickedpuppy>  awilcox_  , awilcox is your registered nick right ? you can kill it with ghost ...
[06:13] <nicolas1> my friend updated to dapper, and i never found why, but zsnes and video playback were buggy
[06:13] <wickedpuppy> awilcox_, /msg nickserv help ghost
[06:13] <Zambezi> JDahl, What about this packages "scponly"?
[06:13] <awilcox_> wickedpuppy, no that isn't my nick
[06:13] <wickedpuppy> awilcox_, then you can't get it back
[06:14] <awilcox_> No I mean I used it and then accidentially killed irssi
[06:14] <awilcox_> it will eventually time out
[06:14] <awilcox_> I was asking how long it would take
[06:14] <arepie> after i do "sudo apt-get install linux-image-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7" is it usually will automatic let me use that after restart X ?
[06:14] <mnepton> arepie: you need to reboot
[06:14] <wickedpuppy> awilcox_, yes ... so ... no idea .... can take a while..
[06:15] <arepie> i see.. so i don;t have to remove my old 368 kernel ?
[06:15] <awilcox_> s/368/386
[06:15] <mnepton> arepie: and when you're satisfied that the k7 kernel works for you, you should remove the 386 kernel and modules
[06:15] <arepie> i see..
[06:15] <arepie> ok
[06:15] <JDahl> Zambezi, I don't know - you could try rcp instead of scp (apt-cache points to rsh-client),  which is less secure,  but that doesn't matter for your private LAN
[06:15] <seamus7> Hi ... anyone know where CheckGmail keeps it's system tray icons? They don't appear to be in the usual Ubuntu icon folders.
[06:16] <arepie> after install, and restart, it will use the K7 kernel isn't it ?
[06:16] <Megadeus> help! I'm using the liveCD to install ubuntu (dapper) as a dual-boot with XP, and I'm confident in everything except whether or not to create my ext3 and swap partitions as "primary" or "extended." Which is correct?
[06:16] <arepie> mnepton:  after install, and restart, it will use the K7 kernel isn't it ?
[06:16] <mnepton> arepie: it should, yes. you can hit <esc> to get the grub menu at boot to be sure.
[06:16] <MaKaTiGuY> what application in ubuntu that uses SIP?
[06:16] <arepie> i see..
[06:16] <awilcox_> mister_roboto again thank you
[06:16] <Zambezi> JDahl, I prefer high security for my LAN too.
[06:17] <awilcox_> fuse+fish = happy awilcox_ :)
[06:17] <mister_roboto> awilcox_: glad to help  :)
[06:17] <Zambezi> JDahl, If I can tripple the speed it's enough.
[06:17] <awilcox_> well bye all
[06:18] <awilcox_> off to shove all my laptop files on to my nice new 100G drive
[06:18] <MaKaTiGuY> what application in ubuntu that uses SIP?
[06:18] <awilcox_> MaKaTiGuY, which one is that? Simple Information Protocol?  can't remember what SIP stands for off the top of my head
[06:18] <Healot> ekiga!
[06:18] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY, what is SIP ?
[06:19] <MaKaTiGuY> wicked: Session Initiation Protocol
[06:20] <awilcox_> Ahh VoIP
[06:20] <anilomkar> i am getting this warning "This Program cannot start until you start the dbus session service" every time i start Ubuntu OS
[06:20] <MaKaTiGuY> wicked: i downloaded wengophone
[06:20] <Zambezi> JDahl, Check here. It sounds good.
[06:20] <awilcox_> !voip
[06:20] <krypto84sv> msg nickserv identify danic++
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <wickedpuppy> krypto84sv, change ya password pls
[06:20] <Madpilot> krypto84sv, time to change your password...
[06:20] <wickedpuppy> sheesh
[06:20] <awilcox_> krypto84sv, not a good idea
[06:20] <anilomkar> wickedpuppy, i am getting this warning "This Program cannot start until you start the dbus session service" every time i start Ubuntu OS please help me
[06:21] <MaKaTiGuY> wicked: can u suggest an application that is capable of voice chat, like yahoo messenger
[06:21] <awilcox_> anilomkar, please ask the channel
[06:21] <awilcox_> !im
[06:21] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:21] <berent> unable to play vcd on vlc
[06:21] <wickedpuppy> anilomkar, no idea about that one ...
[06:21] <awilcox_> berent, try mplayer
[06:21] <anilomkar> awilcox, i asked the channel already
[06:21] <awilcox_> better video support
[06:21] <berent> it says caccess_file access error: read failed (Input/output error)
[06:22] <wickedpuppy> awilcox_, you can answer it if you know the answer ... we are not paid so i won't fight with anyone for the help.. :P
[06:22] <Madpilot> anilomkar, don't PM people at random; it's rude and it wastes time...
[06:22] <berent> awilcox: even it says seek failed
[06:22] <awilcox_> wickedpuppy, huh?
[06:22] <wickedpuppy> awilcox_, the question he posted to me ... you can answer it if you want ...
[06:23] <awilcox_> wickedpuppy, I have no clue
[06:23] <MaKaTiGuY> ubutu: how about voice chat
[06:23] <awilcox_> That's why I told him to ask the channel
[06:23] <berent> problem in reading / accessing cdrom
[06:23] <frotz661> geez.. this is annoying to get wifi to work, but I did it.  If anyone's interested, I'll post a writeup to comp.os.linux.networking
[06:23] <awilcox_> berent, all VCDs or just one?  All discs or just VCDs?  Have you tried Audio discs?  Data discs?
[06:23] <berent> yes all
[06:24] <wickedpuppy> awilcox_, look up .. he posted the question to me ... and you ask him to ask the channel ... i am saying thats basically asking the channel ... you can answer for me if you know the answer .. not necessarily i must answer .. pm is another thing of course
[06:24] <awilcox_> All VCDs, or all CDs?
[06:24] <berent> all
[06:24] <berent> cdrom disc
[06:24] <berent> i can't even copy them
[06:24] <marcrosoft> Hey guys, I'm trying to install vmware-player on a 2.6.15-27-k7 kernel; however, there are only builds for 2.6.15-23... I have followed many guides and searched and have not been able to find much information.  Anyone here able to get it to work?
[06:24] <awilcox_> wickedpuppy, I'm not sure, maybe it's #wine, but I thought that one of the rules here was ask the channel not one person
[06:25] <awilcox_> berent, has the drive ever worked?  new computer?
[06:25] <berent> cp: reading `cdrom/mpegav/avseq01.dat': Input/output error
[06:25] <marcrosoft> I have also tried compiling the modules from source and placing them in the directories without avail.
[06:25] <berent> it was working superb with breezy
[06:25] <wickedpuppy> awilcox_,  there is no such rule .. the only thing will be to pm without asking for permission .. anyone can any question ...
[06:25] <berent> now after i switched to dapper these probs
[06:25] <arepie> help me with ati driver, this is the log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26551/
[06:25] <awilcox_> dist-upgrade?
[06:25] <berent> yes
[06:25] <awilcox_> hmm
[06:26] <awilcox_> no clue
[06:26] <MaKaTiGuY> what is the command to show the ports?
[06:26] <Megadeus> hey, all. I have a small question about partitioning.
[06:26] <awilcox_> MaKaTiGuY, what kind?  I/O ports?  TCP ports?  UDP ports?  Application ports?  Backports?
[06:26] <MrRothstein> hey berent, i had a bunch of problems like that after an update
[06:26] <Healot> MaKaTiGuY: netstat
[06:26] <JDahl> Zambezi, was getting some coffee - click where?
[06:26] <berent> what did u do mrrothstein
[06:26] <awilcox_> !tell Megadeus about ask
[06:26] <MrRothstein> all of mine had to do with permissions being changed on device files
[06:27] <berent> how did u do that
[06:27] <MrRothstein> for reading cdrom it was /dev/hdb
[06:27] <MaKaTiGuY> SIP port
[06:27] <berent> i am unable to chmod on cdrom
[06:27] <awilcox_> berent, sudo chmod
[06:27] <MrRothstein> i also had sound problems, that was fixed by adding myself to the audio group
[06:27] <MaKaTiGuY> port 5060
[06:27] <Zambezi> JDahl, On the link. It has support for SFTP too. The adress is: http://www.sublimation.org/scponly/
[06:27] <Megadeus> thanks, wilcox. Question: To install Dapper alongside XP as a dualboot, should I create my ext3 and swap partitions as "primary" or "extended?"
[06:27] <awilcox_> MaKaTiGuY, that's a TCP/IP port.  show active ports?  or show a list of the ports and what they do?
[06:28] <berent> awilcox_ : it says read only file system
[06:28] <MaKaTiGuY> show active ports
[06:28] <awilcox_> Megadeus, personally I like primary myself.
[06:28] <Megadeus> I'm new to linux and don't understand the difference.
[06:28] <awilcox_> MaKaTiGuY, netstat -l
[06:28] <awilcox_> Megadeus, do you know about logical drives?
[06:29] <Megadeus> yes.
[06:29] <MaKaTiGuY> tnx awilcox
[06:29] <thomas_> megadeus: it doesn't really matter as long as there are less than 4 primary partitions, and that you install windows AFTER linux.
[06:29] <awilcox_> Megadeus, in Windows it's logical drives, in Linux it's "extended"
[06:29] <dowingba> I've never had a problem installing Windows first...
[06:29] <Megadeus> ah, thank you both. That makes sense.
[06:29] <awilcox_> thomas_ why after?  Every installation I've done is after Windows was installed
[06:29] <berent> awilcox_ : it says read only file system
[06:29] <berent> mrrothstein : it says read only file system
[06:29] <awilcox_> berent, yes, well, you do the CD root folder
[06:29] <awilcox_> e.g.
[06:29] <Megadeus> I installed Red Hat after XP in a class I'm taking and haven't had any issues with it...
[06:30] <thomas_> awilcox_: if you install windows AFTER linux, it will wipe out grub or lilo or w/e the linux is using.
[06:30] <berent> what do u mean
[06:30] <Megadeus> 'course, I'm being more careful tonight, as this is MY box ^_~
[06:30] <MrRothstein> for cdrom, i had to change permissions on /dev/hdb
[06:30] <MrRothstein> not /media/cdrom
[06:30] <awilcox_> berent:     sudo chmod 777 /media/cdrom
[06:30] <MaKaTiGuY> awilcox: what is port 5060?
[06:30] <berent> chmod: changing permissions of `cdrom0': Read-only file system
[06:30] <awilcox_> MaKaTiGuY, hold a sec
[06:30] <dowingba> I'm being more careful...by not installing windows at all this time
[06:31] <awilcox_> berent, try        sudo chmod 777 /dev/hdc
[06:31] <awilcox_> dowingba, good idea :)
[06:31] <wastrel> you can't chmod on a cdrom
[06:31] <MaKaTiGuY> tnx
[06:31] <Healot> in fact, you dont
[06:31] <dowingba> yeah, I haven't even installed an antivirus software yet lol
[06:32] <awilcox_> MaKaTiGuY - 5060 is SIP
[06:32] <Nem1> i need a shell programming toll.Where can i find it???
[06:32] <awilcox_> https://www.grc.com/port_5060.htm
[06:32] <wastrel> what do you mean by "shell programming toll" ?
[06:32] <awilcox_> Nem1, huh?
[06:32] <PMantis> I installed Ubuntu on a server with RAID and LVM. Upgraded the kernel, and the kernel can't find volume group "Main".
[06:32] <dowingba> my system defaulted to /media/cdrom0 if that helps...you can chmod that directory, just not the /dev itself
[06:32] <awilcox_> oh tool
[06:32] <wastrel> why do you want to chmod a mount point?
[06:32] <awilcox_> he prolly mean tool
[06:32] <PMantis> selecting 2.6.15-15, it loade the MD devices, then looks for volume groups. anything later doens't do that...so no booting.
[06:32] <awilcox_> Nem1, I use bash
[06:33] <awilcox_> Nem1, also there's Perl, csh, and korn.  Python may also work.
[06:33] <awilcox_> Nem1, what are you wanting to do?
[06:33] <Nem1> ) awilcox, ok i'll try bash
[06:33] <dowingba> PMantis, did you compile the kernel or use a .deb package?
[06:34] <peeps> is there some command to register my IRC username?
[06:34] <awilcox_> peeps yes
[06:34] <awilcox_> peeps try /msg NickServ help
[06:34] <PMantis> dowingba, All through "apt-get upgrade".. so deb
[06:34] <dowingba> hmm
[06:34] <JDahl> Nem1, if you want to learn just one tool at least consider Python
[06:34] <PMantis> dowingba, No sources.list changes, all official repos
[06:34] <rbil> anyone here with a laptop that has a Synaptics TouchPad that would be interested in testing a python script I wrote to control it?
[06:34] <dowingba> you've got me on that one
[06:34] <Nem1> OK
[06:34] <awilcox_> rbil sure
[06:35] <awilcox_> rbil I have one
[06:35] <awilcox_> rbil what does it do?
[06:35] <dowingba> PMantis all i can think is that the package corrupted somehow during the download
[06:35] <berent> mrrothstein : it says read only file system
[06:35] <rbil> I have to warn u, this is my first Python script and would appreciate feedback. Use At Your Own Risk :-)
[06:35] <MaKaTiGuY> awilcox: how  do i uninstall application in ubuntu
[06:35] <dowingba> but usually apt would tell you that
[06:35] <awilcox_> rbil, is your nick like "Ralf Brown's Interrupt List"?
[06:35] <rbil> no
[06:35] <Megadeus> The Ubuntu installer is asking if I'd like to make my largest partition (the one that has windows on it now) into /media/hda2. This just means that it wants to keep the device accessible to me, right?
[06:35] <MrRothstein> even in /dev/hd(b/c) ?
[06:35] <awilcox_> MaKaTiGuY, sudo apt-get remove program-name
[06:35] <berent> mrrothstein : yes
[06:36] <awilcox_> rbil, I like danger :P
[06:36] <rbil> awilcox, can I post a url here to the script?
[06:36] <rbil> it's posted in my blog
[06:36] <awilcox_> yes
[06:36] <rbil> http://www.w-3productions.com/cvcs/weblog/archives/2006/10/control_touchpa.html
[06:36] <PMantis> dowingba, Yeah... kinda weird.
[06:36] <wastrel> awilcox_:  is the hung irc process still running on your box?
[06:36] <wastrel> eeew ircing with gaim
[06:37] <dowingba> PMantis just try it again... sudo apt-get kernel.so.and.so
[06:37] <dowingba> did it make a backup that you could access in GRUB?
[06:37] <awilcox_> wastrel no
[06:37] <awilcox_> wastrel, nope killed accidentially
[06:37] <berent> awilcox_ : still unable to read
[06:37] <dowingba> ubuntu.old or something
[06:37] <MaKaTiGuY> awil: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:37] <PMantis> dowingba, Server is 15-20 miles away, so I can't just reboot it and see if it comes up or hangs. heh
[06:38] <wastrel> weird :] 
[06:38] <dowingba> lol
[06:38] <Megadeus> at the risk of repeating myself:   Is it okay to let the installer use my windows partition as /media/hda2 ?
[06:38] <MaKaTiGuY> awil: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:38] <awilcox_> rbil, problem
[06:38] <ThomasM> Megadeus: it is if you never want to use windows again.
[06:38] <MrRothstein> berent, can you create a temp file in the temp dir?
[06:38] <ThomasM> hehe
[06:38] <MrRothstein> in the dev directory i mean
[06:38] <awilcox_> MaKaTiGuY, try getting out of Synaptic first :)
[06:38] <berent> yes
[06:39] <dowingba> Megadeus, just leave it and manually type in your windows partition into /etc/fstab
[06:39] <awilcox_> MaKaTiGuY, also that was *sudo* apt-get remove program-name
[06:39] <dowingba> if you installed windows first, wouldn't it be hda1 anyway?
[06:39] <berent> mrrothstein : yes
[06:39] <berent> mrrothstein : after that
[06:39] <MrRothstein> can you delete it?
[06:39] <rbil> awilcox, what is prob?
[06:40] <Megadeus> dowingba: all I know is that it says "mount point /media/hda2" and shows the same size as the windows partition
[06:40] <awilcox_> rbil, File "touch.py", line 36, import os       SyntaxError
[06:40] <MaKaTiGuY> tnx
[06:40] <Megadeus> it also says "reformat" with a checkbox, which defaults to unchecked.
[06:40] <dowingba> Megadeus, I'd still play it safe and just type it into fstab manually if I were you
[06:40] <rbil> awilcox, sorry I'm just starting to play with Python. I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 and however Python came, it has all required stuff here.
[06:40] <MrRothstein> berent, can you delete the file?
[06:41] <berent> mrrothstein : yes
[06:41] <berent> mrrothstein : :-))
[06:41] <awilcox_> Ah Megadeus, live on the wild side :)
[06:41] <MrRothstein> reinstall from scratch
[06:41] <MrRothstein> :)
[06:41] <rbil> let me see what Python stuff ha been installed here
[06:41] <MrRothstein> just kidding
[06:41] <Megadeus> pfft. I'd rather not lose windows!
[06:41] <awilcox_> Megadeus, I would :) :) :) :)
[06:42] <dowingba> I wrote a cd burning program in python once...all it did was find wav files and burn them, then open the tray...it 3 lines
[06:42] <Megadeus> baby steps!
[06:42] <Megadeus> this is my first personal linux installation, I need a safety net.
[06:42] <DraconPern> Hello, how can I reconfigure my x mouse setting in the console?
[06:42] <awilcox_> rbil nvm
[06:42] <dowingba> Megadeus, it took me 2 years to finally ditch windows...until ubuntu mutured to its current awesomeness, to be exact
[06:42] <ThomasM> Megadeus: no problem....
[06:42] <rbil> you got python2.4-tk installed?
[06:42] <awilcox_> rbil yeah
[06:42] <Megadeus> anyhow, I can select "blank (none)" as Mount Point: /media/hda2, and I think that's the safest bet.
[06:43] <awilcox_> rbil when I copied it copied some extra spaces
[06:43] <rbil> darn weblog
[06:43] <rbil> maybe that is the only problem
[06:43] <DraconPern> I am getting a "Mouse1: cannont open input device" eror. :(
[06:43] <ThomasM> took me a while to get rid of windows completely... now i have the comfort of a VMware image if i ever absolutely NEED windows.
[06:43] <awilcox_> rbil Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[06:43] <awilcox_> rbil what does that mean?
[06:43] <dowingba> that "easyubuntu" program completely made windows irrelevant for me
[06:44] <Megadeus> when i get/build a new computer, I'll make it all Ubuntu. I've been using the liveCD lately and really like it.
[06:44] <rbil> read the comments, you need to setup SHMConfig in xorg.conf
[06:44] <dowingba> and if I ever want to play games (which is unlikely) I'll just pay $5 for Cadega
[06:44] <dowingba> although, ironically EasyUbuntu was the one package I had problems with, it kept screwing up
[06:44] <MrRothstein> berent what do you get when you run "mount"?
[06:45] <ric1> Hey does anyone know where the settings are for aMSN? I set it to start iconified and now when it starts it goes to the task bar and does nothing. I need to set it back to start normal.
[06:45] <MrRothstein> is there anything mount read only?
[06:45] <Megadeus> crap. It won't let me proceed with the installation without specifying a partition for /media/hda2
[06:45] <ThomasM> dowingba: look at wine first.
[06:45] <awilcox_> rbil okay restarting X
[06:45] <Megadeus> ah, nevermind
[06:45] <ThomasM> dowingba: it does alright for itself.
[06:45] <rbil> k
[06:45] <berent> mrrothstein : /dev/hdb on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[06:45] <rbil> fingers crossed :-)
[06:45] <Megadeus> I just deselected /media/hda2
[06:45] <dowingba> I've been using wine for years, just doesn't do it for me...only game I ever got working with 3d acceleration was Total Annihilation
[06:45] <DraconPern> I am running ubuntu under vmware, and the vmware tools has just broken my xconfig...
[06:46] <DraconPern> so.. now I can't get X running again
[06:46] <dowingba> I'm not, nor do I intend to be, a Wine guru
[06:46] <Megadeus> okay. This is it. Wish me luck. Preparing to click "install"......
[06:46] <DraconPern> there's no 'mouseconfig'!?
[06:46] <berent> mrrothstein : i can copy all directories in it except the dat files
[06:46] <dowingba> $5 a month is what I pay for Xbox live anyway
[06:47] <ric1> Does anyone know where the settings are stored for aMSN?
[06:47] <berent> mrrothstein : i think something is missing on the mounting part
[06:47] <ThomasM> ric1: probable ~/.amsn/
[06:47] <dowingba> ricl, just a throw in the dark, but try /home/your-name/.amsn ?
[06:47] <ric1> Thanks
[06:47] <GaryS> How would I enable the make command on Ubuntu Server, i did apt-get install gcc but that didn't cause the make command to do anything, I can't connect to the internet on that computer because I need "make" to install the ath0 wireless
[06:48] <ThomasM> GaryS: you need buildessentials
[06:48] <dowingba> apt-get install make
[06:48] <THX-1138> !build-essential
[06:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:49] <mnepton> GaryS: you shouldn't need to do anything for MadWiFi Atheros chipset support
[06:49] <MrRothstein> berent what are the permissions on the /dev/hdb ?
[06:49] <EchoBinary> hello! perhaps someone can help change a file type assoc in Nautilus?
[06:49] <berent> mrrothstein : 777
[06:49] <mnepton> GaryS: the MadWiFi drivers come with a stock Ubuntu install, and should provide the ath0 interface as soon as they find an Atheros chipset on the bus.
[06:50] <ThomasM> EchoBinary: shoot
[06:50] <EchoBinary> ive right clicked on the file and gone to the open with tab under properties
[06:50] <EchoBinary> i have there a list of several applications
[06:50] <MrRothstein> that fixed it for me...
[06:50] <ThomasM> echobinary: start off with what kind of file it is.
[06:50] <EchoBinary> one is selected (not the one i want)
[06:50] <EchoBinary> i try to select another application from the list but it doesnt change the selection
[06:50] <awilcox> rbil, it worked very well
[06:50] <EchoBinary> movies files
[06:50] <EchoBinary> avi, mpeg
[06:50] <awilcox> rbil, one thing though
[06:50] <EchoBinary> xvid
[06:50] <rbil> good news, you're the first to run it
[06:51] <awilcox> rbil, the "TouchPad On" light didn't go off
[06:51] <awilcox> rbil, but the touchpad itself stopped working
[06:51] <rbil> haha
[06:51] <rbil> yeh, well
[06:51] <dowingba> you get what you pay for
[06:51] <rbil> where is the copy and paste problem?
[06:51] <awilcox> rbil, that link you gave me, that I don't have anymore
[06:51] <awilcox> everywhere
[06:51] <DraconPern> Hum.. ok, I am going to have to reinstall ubuntu to get X working again.
[06:51] <EchoBinary> i even tried #sudo nautilus ..  wondering if it was a permissions thing
[06:51] <awilcox> I had to reindent everything
[06:51] <rbil> yes, but you said u had to fix the script
[06:51] <awilcox> right
[06:51] <ThomasM> draconpern: do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:52] <awilcox> I just had to indent
[06:52] <rbil> oh, ok. I'll maybe make it available for download then rather than depend on how the blog reformats things
[06:52] <DraconPern> I put in the CD, the computer boots the cd, but the old install keeps running the HD boot.
[06:52] <ThomasM> draconpern: then restart it, and if it still doesn't work, you may be in bigger trouble.
[06:52] <awilcox> rbil yes good idea :)
[06:52] <`paul> im installing bmpx and during make it looks for gst/interfaces/mixer.h etc...... if asked the bmpx guys and they say the ubuntu people could answer it help pls
[06:53] <EchoBinary> ThomasM: any thoughts?
[06:53] <rbil> I wrote it for a friend today. previously it was just a bash script but wanted to see if I could get a gui going with Python
[06:53] <rbil> but he isn't around to test it
[06:53] <ThomasM> echobinary: make sure you click the radio button.
[06:53] <awilcox> rbil heh wow
[06:53] <rbil> good utility, do you think?
[06:53] <awilcox> rbil yep
[06:53] <awilcox> rbil even though I do have a button right above the touchpad to disable it :)
[06:54] <EchoBinary> ThomasM: clicking right on it - the highlight even changes but the radio button selection does not change
[06:54] <rbil> my friend's Toshiba laptop, in some programs his cursor would bounce around if touchpad was on
[06:54] <dowingba> EchoBinary do killall nautilus  maybe it just needs to be refreshed
[06:54] <rbil> he doesn't
[06:54] <EchoBinary> hmm  alrighty ill try that
[06:54] <awilcox> rbil yes, one of my older laptops (1996 Compaq LTE 5150) doesn't either and I may install that on it :)
[06:54] <rbil> I guess a hardware button is more convenient :-)
[06:54] <ThomasM> rbil: needs some deadspace on the touchpad.
[06:54] <awilcox> rbil, of course, that's not a touchpad but rather a stick mouse :)
[06:55] <rbil> ThomasM ... what's a deadspace
[06:55] <EchoBinary> dowingba: no dice - #sudo killall nautilus
[06:55] <dowingba> the radio button still doesn't check?
[06:55] <EchoBinary> same thing
[06:55] <EchoBinary> aye, no check
[06:55] <EchoBinary> most bizzare voodoo ever
[06:55] <awilcox> rbil, it's basically how hard you have to press down before it recognizes it
[06:56] <EchoBinary> i figured itd be simple enough
[06:56] <dowingba> is the option greyed out?
[06:56] <ThomasM> maybe the the program isn't available anymore.
[06:56] <dowingba> cause that would be permissions
[06:56] <awilcox> dowingba, yeah but with "sudo" on it?
[06:56] <EchoBinary> doesnt look like permissions
[06:56] <rbil> I think his prob goes deeper, as he doesn't touch it at all and gets this prob
[06:56] <EchoBinary> chmodd 777
[06:56] <EchoBinary> the application im trying to select is vlc player and works fine
[06:56] <ThomasM> dowingba: you mean if he trys to open a program he's not authorized to?
[06:56] <awilcox> rbil another thing
[06:57] <rbil> anyway, gotta run, thanks for testing it awilcox. will make a download link available.
[06:57] <rredd4> first time install of samba smbfs.  have done nothing else yet,  got these errors.     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26558/
[06:57] <rbil> yes
[06:57] <awilcox> rbil, make it accept a parameter
[06:57] <awilcox> rbil like "touch.py on"
[06:57] <dowingba> I just thought maybe nautilus itself had screwed up permissions, but sounds like thats not the case
[06:57] <ThomasM> rbil: what is it you made?
[06:57] <peeps> what do people think is the best video plugin for mozilla?  seems like there are so many
[06:57] <awilcox> rbil: No problem :)
[06:57] <EchoBinary> dowingba: i even tried running sudo nautilus, but that didnt work either
[06:57] <dowingba> peeps, all of them
[06:57] <rbil> I'll let awilcox explain, gotta run :-)
[06:57] <rbil> cheers
[06:57] <awilcox> ThomasM, it is a Synaptic TouchPad enable/disable utility
[06:57] <ThomasM> peeps: many people find totem-xine to be the best.
[06:57] <awilcox> rbil bye!
[06:58] <ThomasM> peeps: because it handles video better than gstreamer
[06:58] <ThomasM> thats smart. should be integrated into xorg.
[06:58] <ThomasM> hehe
[06:58] <dowingba> I use a mix between mplayer and totem...when one screws up the other always works
[06:58] <awilcox> peeps, I like MediaPlayerConnectivity, and use VLC to open that
[06:58] <awilcox> so VLC
[06:59] <dowingba> but mplayer is useless without the w32 codecs, which are non-free
[06:59] <awilcox> ThomasM Yep
[06:59] <peeps> i thought you can only define one plugin at a time, how can you switch betwen multiple
[06:59] <Lam_> is there a way to get mplayer to lock aspect ratio when going full screen? my video gets horizontally distored due to widescreen
[06:59] <awilcox> peeps, MediaPlayerConnectivity is what I use
[06:59] <dowingba> peeps, with MEdiaPlayerConnectivity
[06:59] <peeps> ok
[06:59] <dowingba> it turns all your media players into embedded things
[07:00] <dowingba> lol
[07:00] <ThomasM> nice.
[07:00] <awilcox> Yay!
[07:00] <dowingba> still have windows, megadeus?
[07:00] <megadeus-wins> I finished installing ubuntu, now the real test is to reboot and see if I didn't die.
[07:00] <ThomasM> it installs so fast eh?
[07:00] <megadeus-wins> I'm digging the fast install.
[07:00] <ThomasM> yeah.
[07:00] <ThomasM> dude.
[07:01] <rredd4> help please    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26558/
[07:01] <ThomasM> if you're not back in 20 minutes, we'll send you help.
[07:01] <ThomasM> :)
[07:01] <dowingba> yeah, took me about 10 minutes...which is why I'm so mystified that Sound Juicer only seems able to achieve 6x when ripping CDs
[07:01] <megadeus-wins> okay, I'll reboot to Windows and make sure it exists.
[07:01] <megadeus-wins> I'll be back to keep you appraised, either way, :D
[07:01] <ThomasM> rredd4: what's the problem..... sorta helps if you tell people what the problem is.
[07:01] <rredd4> first time install of samba smbfs.  have done nothing else yet,  got these errors.     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26558/
[07:01] <ThomasM> i hope his windows got fried.
[07:02] <dowingba> lol
[07:02] <ThomasM> but don't tell him i said that.
[07:02] <dowingba> yeah me too...it's hard to let go until you're forced to
[07:02] <awilcox> ThomasM, don't tell him, but I do too :)
[07:02] <Healot> awilcox: with my SATA II disk; just 12 minutes; unautomated install :)
[07:02] <Lam_> why does my front side bus not work?
[07:02] <Lam_> :(
[07:02] <dowingba> my pirated version of XP died and I didn't have the product key...so now Linux has alot more space
[07:02] <awilcox> Healot, ATA/100 20 minutes :)
[07:03] <Madpilot> dowingba, that's how I got sucked into Linux. Welcome to the Light Side. :)
[07:03] <dowingba> lol
[07:03] <dowingba> I started out on Slackware 2 years ago...trial by fire...now I'm living the high life with ubuntu
[07:03] <ThomasM> Lam_: if your front side bus isn't working... how are we talking?
[07:04] <ThomasM> dowingba: there are simple ways around that..... but we won't speak of them.
[07:04] <awilcox> ThomasM different computer?
[07:04] <Healot> awilcox: I guess there always some differences
[07:04] <awilcox> Lam_ what do you mean by FSB?
[07:04] <awilcox> Healot yep :)
[07:04] <Lam_> my tower has a front side bus on it lol.  that's what i meant by that.  i plug my headset into the Audio Out on it and it doesn't redirect sound from my backside Audio Out to my front side
[07:04] <ThomasM> now... you can edit some registry keys, and its done.
[07:04] <rredd4> ThomasM  i guess no one knows about smbfs plugin...?
[07:05] <ThomasM> nope.
[07:05] <peeps> hehe
[07:05] <ThomasM> smbfs supports streaming i guess?
[07:05] <ThomasM> is that the big schpeal?
[07:05] <awilcox> Lam_, so you want your backside to redirect to your frontside?  hmm, sounds complicated :)
[07:05] <ThomasM> sounds homo-erotic.
[07:06] <rredd4> ThomasM  its for file sharing and printer sharing from a windows computer
[07:06] <dowingba> they have diapers for that
[07:06] <Lam_> yeah. windows seemed to do that automatically and i always assumed it was a BIOS thing
[07:06] <rredd4> to linux
[07:06] <ThomasM> rredd4: you know thats not needed right? windows already has smb, and smb is only for linux to be able to integrate into it.
[07:07] <Megadeus> nope, I screwed it up.
[07:07] <Megadeus> =D
[07:07] <awilcox> Megadeus, Yay!
[07:07] <dowingba> you lost windows?
[07:07] <Megadeus> Windows is dead.
[07:07] <rredd4> ThomasM  yes, getting errors on the linux side after installing plugin\
[07:07] <awilcox> Megadeus, Yay!
[07:07] <dowingba> seriously?
[07:07] <Megadeus> I'm missing \system32\hal.dll
[07:07] <Megadeus> I need to reinstall that file or something
[07:07] <awilcox> Megadeus, which Windows?
[07:07] <awilcox> 2000?  or NT 4?
[07:07] <Megadeus> XP pro.
[07:07] <romans5n1> is there a way to map a remote FTP server into the filesystem?
[07:08] <awilcox> yuckers
[07:08] <dowingba> Megadeus, I've seen this dance before, you'll reinstall hal.dll then some other Dll is missing, etc
[07:08] <Megadeus> ha.
[07:08] <dowingba> it's worse than "dependency hell"
[07:08] <awilcox> Megadeus
[07:08] <Lam_> can't you just run Windows repair?
[07:08] <rredd4> ThomasM  and i am following the wiki instructions   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:08] <Megadeus> probably.
[07:08] <awilcox> Lam_, that's Windows NT 4
[07:08] <Madpilot> Can't you just delete XP?
[07:08] <dowingba> try the windows XP repair utility if you like gambling
[07:08] <Megadeus> I could, but I'd really rather not.
[07:08] <awilcox> Megadeus, I'm with Madpilot
[07:08] <Lam_> awilcox: really? my xp discs can do it
[07:08] <Megadeus> delete, not repair
[07:08] <awilcox> Lam_ I've been able to do it with Windows NT 4, NT 5 (yes NT 5 as in Beta 2), and 2003
[07:08] <awilcox> never XP
[07:08] <Megadeus> I used the repair tool last week when I accidentally deleted my boot partition.
[07:09] <Lam_> really? .. ok
[07:09] <Megadeus> I'm having all kinds of luck with this crap.
[07:09] <dowingba> fixMBR...we've all typed that before
[07:09] <awilcox> Megadeus, did your partition table change?
[07:09] <ThomasM> megadeus: you can always run XP inside a Virtual Machine if needed...
[07:09] <awilcox> oh yeah the CONSOLE, I thought you meant the actual repair utility, with the repair disk and all
[07:09] <Megadeus> Thomas: or just mount the ntfs partition
[07:09] <Lam_> Megadeus: i would just install linux, remove whatever files you want from your mounted windows partition, and just start over
[07:09] <Lam_> Megadeus: that is, if i was keeping windows..
[07:10] <Megadeus> Lam_, that may be what I end up doing
[07:10] <Megadeus> I didn't have many programs on Windows.
[07:10] <awilcox> Megadeus, are you reged?
[07:10] <dowingba> make a folder called drive_c somewhere in yuour linux partrition, copy your entire windows folder into it, install wine...and forget
[07:10] <MaKaTiGuY> when i play videos in youtube, there is no sound? what is that?
[07:10] <peeps> what browser?
[07:10] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY, it's Flash sound problem, well known, see wiki
[07:10] <awilcox> !flash
[07:10] <mabus> !flash
[07:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:10] <mabus> I win
[07:10] <Megadeus> awilcox: reged?
[07:11] <awilcox> Megadeus, your nick registered?
[07:11] <dcordes> how can i go for k7 - kernel in edgy?
[07:11] <mnepton> Megadeus: i would recommend 4 partitions. one for Linux's /, one for Windows, one for Linux's /home, and swap space
[07:11] <Megadeus> no, not on this server
[07:11] <dcordes> i install linux-k7 but still have "generic" on boot
[07:11] <awilcox> Megadeus, oh okay, because I was gonna say I can PM you if you were to try and fix your XP
[07:11] <mnepton> dcordes: sudo apt-get install linux-image-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7
[07:11] <awilcox> oh and just to clear this up
[07:12] <Megadeus> awilcox, would you be willing to email me?
[07:12] <awilcox> I said "yuckers" as in that's not a good error to have in XP, not about XP, even though that is kinda what I think of it :)
[07:12] <ThomasM> Megadeus: may i ask what you'll be using your windows for? or if other people will be using it?
[07:12] <awilcox> Megadeus, yeah
[07:12] <ThomasM> Megadeus: there are other options.
[07:12] <Megadeus> thomas: other options to what? fixing XP?
[07:13] <ThomasM> no, for using xp. XP does not technically need to be installed on a partition to be used.
[07:13] <Megadeus> I understand that.
[07:13] <dcordes> mnepton: ah i think you helped me before and said i should install k7
[07:13] <awilcox> Megadeus, I'm     Andrew <dot> R <period> Wilcox <at> Gmail dot commmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:13] <Megadeus> I'd also like the experience of fixing a broken OS, too.
[07:13] <dcordes> thanks again my friend :-=)
[07:13] <ThomasM> if you won't be using it too heavily or playing games or anything, it may be worth it to use a virtual machine.
[07:13] <awilcox> ^^^^^ that should prevent the spambot harvest :)
[07:13] <Megadeus> heh
[07:13] <mnepton> dcordes: i may well have done so. i like arch-specific kernels :)
[07:14] <dcordes> mnepton: what's an arch specific-kernel?
[07:14] <ThomasM> Megadeus: in that case good luck. Look up the VMwarePlayer option.
[07:14] <mnepton> dcordes: architecture specific. 386 vs 686 vs k7 etc etc
[07:14] <dcordes> mnepton: oh i see
[07:14] <awilcox> dcordes, meaning architecture specific, like Intel x86, AMD64, x86_64, K7
[07:14] <Megadeus> VMwarePlayer?
[07:15] <dowingba> ok I have a problem perhaps somebody could help with...is there any way to get ubuntu to think my usb ports are firewire ports?
[07:15] <awilcox> Megadeus, ignore him, I could never get VMwarePlayer working
[07:15] <Megadeus> heh.
[07:15] <awilcox> Megadeus, use Qemu instead
[07:15] <dowingba> I'm trying to do some video capture from a DV camera but linux only seems to recognize firewire for that sort of thing
[07:15] <babo> there's no mod_log_mysql in the repos ?
[07:15] <ThomasM> well you can use Qemu to make the disk image on your hard drive, and then VMware player for extra support like USB etc...
[07:16] <dowingba> Qemu?
[07:16] <awilcox> !qemu
[07:16] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:16] <ThomasM> !vmware
[07:16] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[07:16] <Megadeus> hrm. Thomas, Awilcox, does either of you still use XP?
[07:16] <awilcox> I use the #qemu weeky though
[07:16] <awilcox> ****wiki not weeky :P
[07:16] <harisund> Why does ubotu point to WindowsXPUnderQemu? Can't you run other OS using Qemu? Say FreeBSD under Qemu?
[07:16] <ThomasM> i hardly ever do, i only keep it just in case, for school or something.
[07:16] <awilcox> Megadeus, on a real computer?  noooooooooooo
[07:16] <awilcox> harisund, yes
[07:17] <awilcox> harisund, 99.9999999999% of the population wouldn't do that though :)
[07:17] <awilcox> harisund, most people that want to run FreeBSD will run it on real hardware :)
[07:17] <Megadeus> hrm. I just know I'll catch flack from my nerd buddies if I nuked my XP installation. That being the case, I'm going to try and fix it.
[07:17] <awilcox> Megadeus, wrong nerd crowd :)
[07:17] <mailinh> oh
[07:17] <Megadeus> true.
[07:17] <mailinh> hi all
[07:17] <awilcox> Megadeus, try getting Linux nerds
[07:17] <ThomasM> i tried freebsd one time. burned in the installation. couldn't detect the geometry of my hard drive.
[07:17] <Zeenux> If I make a neat looking ubuntu themed desktop image, can I submit it, and maybe get it distributed in future Ubuntu versions?
[07:17] <ThomasM> weak eh
[07:18] <awilcox> even start a LUG
[07:18] <mailinh> may i ask 1 question
[07:18] <mailinh> how i can upgrade system via a proxy
[07:18] <ThomasM> Zeenux: probably not. but you'll be loved over at gnome-look.org
[07:18] <awilcox> ThomasM, hmm I've installed it on a P3/1000 and a P1/100 with no probs :)
[07:18] <Zeenux> hmmm.
[07:18] <ThomasM> my hard drive is touchy though. i think it got toasty a couple times.
[07:18] <dowingba> my desktop background is a background from Super Mario Bros.  doesn't have much to do with gnome or ubuntu though
[07:18] <ThomasM> i had it in my xbox for a while.
[07:18] <Zeenux> i may just start linking to them here, and let the 1 or two people who want it, use it
[07:19] <Madpilot> Zeenux, as ThomasM said, probably not, but try #ubuntu-art anyway - more contributors would be welcome!
[07:19] <awilcox> ThomasM, my lappy gets to 160 degrees fahrenheit regularly :)
[07:19] <mailinh> oke, tnx, i love it
[07:19] <ThomasM> Zeenux: do you have a screenshot?
[07:19] <mailinh> bb
[07:19] <Zeenux> hehe, Ubuntu was a good topic to choose for photoshop HW then :P
[07:19] <Megadeus> I suppose I should try using my XP repair disk, then?
[07:19] <ThomasM> not cool. go change your battery before somebody dies.
[07:19] <harisund> Megadeus, what happened?
[07:20] <awilcox> ThomasM, hmm?
[07:20] <dowingba> yeah Megadeus, but I bet you it'll erase grub
[07:20] <ThomasM> Megadeus: perhaps...
[07:20] <Megadeus> harisund: short and sweet, I killed XP when I installed ubuntu. \system32\hal.dll wasn't found during bootup.
[07:20] <awilcox> Megadeus, I think your boot.ini is corrupt
[07:20] <ThomasM> Megadeus: it will almost certainly take a torch to grub.
[07:20] <dowingba> I can't imagine why only one file would be missing...sounds like the whole partition got wiped?
[07:20] <harisund> Megadeus, oh ... I think you have a couple of options. you could use your Windows XP Install CD to enter "recover mode" and modify stuff. If you end up overwriting the MBR, use the Ubuntu LiveCD to reinstall Grub
[07:20] <ThomasM> PALE FORCE ON CONAN OBRIEN
[07:20] <ThomasM> YES
[07:20] <Zeenux> okm, apparently KDE finishing installing, and its waiting for me to type something into Terminal. Do I just restart now?
[07:21] <dowingba> can you access the partition through ubuntu?
[07:21] <Megadeus> dowing, wilcox, thomas: that's okay, I think this is God's way of telling me to jack around on someone ELSE's comp first
[07:21] <Lam_> if your computer is rendering OpenGL screensavers, and you turn off your monitor, is the computer still using processing power to render despite the fact your monitor is off?
[07:21] <awilcox> Megadeus :)
[07:21] <awilcox> Lam_ yes
[07:21] <Megadeus> dowing: haven't tried yet, but I assume so.
[07:21] <awilcox> Lam_ the display driver is still running
[07:21] <harisund> Lam_, I would think so, since the *computer* has no way to find out if the *monitor* is switched off
[07:21] <dowingba> Megadeus, try it, just to see if anything is in there
[07:21] <Lam_> ok i thought so, thanks
[07:21] <awilcox> ThomasM, what did you mean by change my battery?
[07:22] <awilcox> why?
[07:22] <Lam_> me?
[07:22] <mabus> Can you make UFS partitions with gparted?
[07:22] <awilcox> Lam_ no, I was asking ThomasM why he wants me to change my laptop battery?
[07:22] <peeps> harisund: the computer can tell if the monitor is connected, cause if I boot with my kvm on the other computer, resolution gets messed up
[07:22] <awilcox> mabus no
[07:22] <ThomasM> awilcox: thats a little toasty, even for a laptop!
[07:22] <Lam_> ah ok.
[07:22] <awilcox> ThomasM, yeah I suppose
[07:22] <mabus> awilcox: anything that solaris will run on?
[07:22] <awilcox> ThomasM, right now it's at 116.6 F
[07:23] <harisund> peeps it can tell if the monitor is connected (I guess by querying the monitor port) but it can't tell if the monitor is switched on or off.
[07:23] <ThomasM> awilcox: think about it... can set your oven lower than that.
[07:23] <dowingba> short answer, if you hear fans ever when the monitor is off...it's using the processor
[07:23] <awilcox> mabus, no clue about Solaris, the only OS I haven't tried yet :)
[07:23] <ThomasM> awilcox: mine is 36 degrees.
[07:23] <ThomasM> hehe
[07:23] <ThomasM> degrees celcius that is...
[07:23] <awilcox> ThomasM, actually my oven starts at 250 F
[07:23] <awilcox> mines 47 C
[07:23] <peeps> my fans are full blast 24.7
[07:23] <dowingba> oven? you mean microwave oven?
[07:24] <awilcox> peeps, wow, that's only 76.46 degrees Fahrenheit
[07:24] <peeps> i meant 24/7
[07:24] <awilcox> okay hold on
[07:24] <ThomasM> i also have a horizontal case, with 1 large casefan, 2 exhaust fans, and a half decent heatsink on my amd64 3500+
[07:24] <ThomasM> pushes the heat out quick.
[07:24] <ThomasM> used to heat my old room.
[07:24] <dowingba> oh ye4ah? well my computer sits in a bathtub full of ice
[07:24] <Megadeus> dowingba:  I don't know how to mount that partition. (new to linux)
[07:24] <mabus> awilcox: well what about VxFS, QFS, pcfs, or hsfs
[07:25] <awilcox> mabus, never even heard of those, but I don't think so
[07:25] <CadeX> Speaking of partition, i have a problem with that also.
[07:25] <harisund> What problem CadeX?
[07:25] <dowingba> it should be in /media/hda2 or something
[07:25] <awilcox> ThomasM, my over starts at 200 F, but my toaster oven starts at 150
[07:25] <dowingba> just go into your /media folder and see what's in there
[07:25] <CadeX> "The creation of swap space in partition #5 of IDE2 slave (hdd) failed."
[07:25] <AeonPax> i dont have an internet connection at home, where and how could i download and install WINE? :)
[07:25] <Megadeus> all my /media contains is cdrom and cdrom0
[07:26] <CadeX> I've completely wiped my harddrive, has no formatting... I keep getting that same error.
[07:26] <Megadeus> but under system >computer, I can see the 44 GB partition
[07:26] <awilcox> megadeus
[07:26] <ThomasM> mabus: only remotely good file systems are Ext3, Raiserfs, HFS+, and NTFS. because they are all journalling file systems.
[07:26] <awilcox> megadeus start konsole
[07:26] <harisund> CadeX do one thing. Do fdisk /dev/hdd and hit 'p'. It will list out the partitions. Check if there is a 5th partition in there, and check if the file system type is 82 (swap)
[07:26] <dowingba> double click the 44 GB partition
[07:26] <peeps> is there some program for throttling fans, my comp is loud
[07:26] <Megadeus> hangon, dowingba
[07:27] <mabus> ThomasM: well, I needed one that solaris runs on, but this is getting off topic now, I just wanted to know what kind of filesystems gparted can make
[07:27] <dowingba> peeps, put your computer in a bathtub of ice,...that'll shut em up
[07:27] <peeps> lol
[07:27] <Zeenux> ok, something must have gotten mixed up. I installed Kubuntu via the command I was given before, aft6er all the processes in Terminal stopped, I restarted. I was greeted by the KDE screen, but it still looks like GNOME
[07:27] <CadeX> harisund, how do i do that?
[07:27] <harisund> CadeX are you familiar with the terminal/
[07:27] <CadeX> No.. I'm new to linux. Sick of using Windows XP.
[07:27] <holycow> http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=15592
[07:27] <holycow> wow
[07:27] <tuv> is 6.10 out yet?
[07:27] <ThomasM> Zeenux: because you logged into the gnome session.
[07:28] <dowingba> 6.10 is Edgy, isn't it?
[07:28] <Zeenux> no, that looked like kubuntu too
[07:28] <ThomasM> Zeenux: at the login screen, select options sessions KDE.
[07:28] <harisund> CadeX, oh .. in that case, welcome to Linux! .... so I am guessing you know what the terminal is? (No problem if you haven't used it before)
[07:28] <Zeenux> ahhh
[07:28] <holycow> we are so killing whatever vista is comming out with
[07:28] <Zeenux> ok
[07:28] <holycow> jesus
[07:28] <AlienX> mabus, i don't supposed you bothered to actually read the parted website or man page...
[07:28] <mnepton> yay! new jIRCii!
[07:28] <AlienX> s/supposed/suppose
[07:28] <Megadeus> okay, the error I get when clicking the hard drive icon says /dev/hda2 is not removable
[07:28] <printk> mnepton: jIRCii?
[07:28] <CadeX> harisund, no i havent used it before.
[07:28] <huck> I just installed OOo-Draw... but cant seem to find the launcher... can someone tell me where it would be?
[07:29] <peeps> holycow: i have beryl installed too, it is pretty sweet
[07:29] <mnepton> printk: my preferred GUI IRC client. http://jirc.hick.org
[07:29] <peeps> in edgy
[07:29] <dowingba> Megadeus go sudo /etc/fstab and see if there's an entry for /dev/hda2
[07:29] <awilcox> holycow can't see it
[07:29] <holycow> peeps, i find the demo tastefull
[07:29] <holycow> very tastefull
[07:29] <holycow> awilcox, you need flash installed
[07:29] <harisund> CadeX have a look at my next line:
[07:29] <harisund> !cli
[07:29] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:30] <holycow> its  not pure eyecandy that is important
[07:30] <Shadow_mil> Hey... Ubuntu boots up to runlevel 2 by default?
[07:30] <dowingba> by the way, when is Macromedia gonna release flash 8 for linux?  I still can't use half the websites out there
[07:30] <holycow> what is important are the little touches that make it'classy'
[07:30] <dowingba> Shadow_mil, used to slackware or something/
[07:30] <awilcox> I mean
[07:30] <MaKaTiGuY> guys, which do you prefer? ubuntu or kbunutu?
[07:30] <mabus> AlienX: it was a quick question, stop with your attitude
[07:30] <awilcox> sorry
[07:30] <awilcox> lost the happy
[07:30] <CadeX> Okay okay wait, how do i open terminal during the installation of Ubuntu? I'm currently staring at a screen saying the error message, with a red background behind it.
[07:30] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY Kubuntu hands down
[07:30] <dowingba> ubuntu...I have RAM, why not use it?
[07:30] <Shadow_mil> dowingba: what is slackware?
[07:30] <chuckyp> holly f it finally worked.  needed to put the plugins in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:30] <ThomasM> Shadow_mil: it boots into runlevel2 to start the user servicces
[07:31] <chuckyp> mplayer roxorz
[07:31] <holycow> awilcox, me too but for now it makes it easy to view videos without going through codec hall
[07:31] <holycow> eventually other things will supercede flash
[07:31] <Megadeus> dowingba, apparently it can't find a command in your statement.
[07:31] <MaKaTiGuY> awilcox: y?
[07:31] <dowingba> whoops sorry, it's sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:31] <Shadow_mil> ThomasM: yes, but when I type runlevel says I am in N 2
[07:31] <chuckyp> holycow, I just installed mplayer from svn and mplayerplug-in I can pretty much view anything in browser
[07:31] <Megadeus> heh.
[07:31] <huck> found it... "oodraw" if anyone is curious
[07:31] <holycow> it will probably be something that supercedes html too ... but i'm guessing too far into the future
[07:31] <harisund> CadEx .. oh so you are installing UBuntu? oh ... that complicates things ...
[07:31] <holycow> chuckyp, sure
[07:31] <chuckyp> Why is the mplayer that comes with ubuntu so crippled about playing through browser.
[07:32] <Megadeus> hda1 and hda3, plus cdrom
[07:32] <chuckyp> Got my porn back i'm happy
[07:32] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY I hate GNOME
[07:32] <Shadow_mil> awilcox: kubuntu :D
[07:32] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY GNOME is just too unextensible
[07:32] <holycow> i love it
[07:32] <Megadeus> wait, make that hda1, hda3 and hdc
[07:32] <dowingba> chuckyp, probably because the worthwhile codecs aren't free so ubuntu can't release with them while staying free-as-in-free
[07:32] <ThomasM> chuckyp: because ubuntu doesn't use the Gnome web browser as a default.
[07:33] <Zeenux> everything is working fine now
[07:33] <Zeenux> thanks guys
[07:33] <chuckyp> dowingba, yeah but even after installing the codecs it still messes stuff up.
[07:33] <MaKaTiGuY> whick is faster?
[07:33] <chuckyp> dowingba, I can now play damn near every codec I can think of.  because they are doing something screwy with the compile of mplayer.
[07:33] <ThomasM> chuckyp: because its a free distribution.
[07:34] <dowingba> Megadeus, you'll want to add a line that looks something like this:  /dev/hda2 /media/windows ntfs ro,users,umask=022 1 0 1 0
[07:34] <thehin> make money no joke!! http://www.netwinner.com/?signupCode=thehin
[07:34] <chuckyp> ThomasM, your not understanding.  Even after installing the codecs via gstreamer or what have you it still is bogus.
[07:34] <ThomasM> chuckyp: how is that?
[07:34] <chuckyp> ThomasM, It works so much better now that I compilied mplayer myself and got mplayerplug-in working.
[07:34] <awilcox> Can somebody block thehin?
[07:34] <Megadeus> dowingba, remind me why I'm doing this, again?
[07:34] <ThomasM> chuckyp: that you expect ubuntu to support firefox as well?
[07:34] <dowingba> to see if there's actually anything *in* your windows partition
[07:35] <Megadeus> ah
[07:35] <Megadeus> thanks, i'd forgotten.
[07:35] <awilcox> Madpilot thanks :)
[07:35] <Zeenux> How do I add a link to Firefox instead Konqueror?
[07:35] <dowingba> not much the repair utility will do if you formatted your whole system
[07:35] <chuckyp> ThomasM, for instance it still wont' handle w32codecs properly even with that package there.   Because it wasn't compilied with option.
[07:35] <Zeenux> in the taskebar
[07:35] <MaKaTiGuY> awil: are you using kbuntu?
[07:35] <Megadeus> dowingba: and save the file?
[07:35] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY yep
[07:35] <dowingba> chuckyp, you might think about getting EasyUbuntu and using it to fix all your multimedia woes
[07:35] <ThomasM> chuckyp: and by w32codecs you know there is no wmv9+ support right?
[07:36] <dowingba> Megadeus, yes
[07:36] <awilcox> on almost every computer in the house
[07:36] <ThomasM> because microsoft chooses it to be that way?
[07:36] <chuckyp> dowingba, I don't have any multimedia woes thats what i'm telling you about.  Its much better this way.
[07:36] <dowingba> your windows partition should show up in "computer" now, and hopefully you can access it
[07:36] <Megadeus> dow: okay.
[07:36] <chuckyp> ThomasM, I can play wmv9
[07:36] <Megadeus> dowingba:mount point /media/windows does not exist
[07:36] <dowingba> I say hopefully...I've never actually done this under ubuntu, just other linux distros
[07:36] <awilcox> Megadeus
[07:36] <CadeX> Could anyone possibly help with this error? I'm trying to install ubuntu linux: "The creation of swap space in partition #5 of IDE2 slave (hdd) failed."
[07:36] <awilcox> Megadeus sudo mkdir /media/windows
[07:36] <dowingba> oh yeah, go sudo mkdir /media/windows
[07:37] <printk> CadeX: what's the reason it gives you
[07:37] <Megadeus> you gotta tell us noobs things like that!
[07:37] <dowingba> and, just for kicks, sudo chmod 777 /media/windows
[07:37] <Borden> CadeX, what are you trying to do, exactly?
[07:37] <ThomasM> my point: don't expect ubtuntu to support every single codec in every web browser with one plugin. you just forget how much installing you had to do in windows to accomplish the same task.
[07:37] <CadeX> I'm installing Ubuntu, and while i'm up to formatting my harddrive, when i make the changes i always get that error message.
[07:37] <THX-1138> After installing W32Codecs what elsse is needed for wma lossless encoded files?
[07:38] <Megadeus> what does chmod do? allow regular user-access so I don't have to sudo it?
[07:38] <nebulasray> is kubuntu developmental or is it up to speed with ubuntu?
[07:38] <Flannel> Megadeus: no, you need to change the umask
[07:38] <Borden> Cadex, are you doing a total format, moving partitions, or what?
[07:38] <harisund> Hello! How do I allow XDMCP login for my GDM sessions?
[07:38] <THX-1138> Is variable bitrate an issue?
[07:38] <ThomasM> THX-1138: they are not supported. look at FLAC, the free lossless audio codec.
[07:38] <dowingba> chmod changes the permissions... 777 is the easiest permission...everyone can access that
[07:38] <CadeX> Completely reformatting the harddrive.
[07:38] <Flannel> harisund: On the login screen setup you can enable it
[07:38] <chuckyp> THX-1138, well I can tell you several websites that won't work properly if thats what you are asking?
[07:38] <peeps> Cadex: maybe your hard drive is failing?
[07:38] <Flannel> nebulasray: it's on par with ubuntu
[07:38] <THX-1138> ThomasM: Yes, - but it took me 4 entire days to encode my collection of CDs
[07:38] <CadeX> No, it was working fine with Windows XP.
[07:39] <Megadeus> YES! My Windows drive still has all my crap!
[07:39] <CadeX> And mandriva linux.
[07:39] <ThomasM> THX-1138: you chose a bad format to put them in.
[07:39] <CadeX> Just, not ubuntu?
[07:39] <Borden> wait, CadeX, how many hard disks do you have on your computer?
[07:39] <dowingba> cool
[07:39] <Borden> 2 IDE drives?
[07:39] <CadeX> One 200GB Western Digital.
[07:39] <dowingba> so I wonder why that one file is corrupt?
[07:39] <Geoffrey2> Evolution started shooting this error at me tonight....Error while Storing folder 'Inbox', Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync
[07:39] <Zeenux> yay figured out stuff myself
[07:39] <ThomasM> woot
[07:39] <ThomasM> :)
[07:39] <Megadeus> it might have been at the end of the hard disk and got overwritten in the format?
[07:39] <Zeenux> added firefox where konqueror was >8D
[07:39] <THX-1138> ThomasM: Please find the Tardis i would like to go back now...
[07:40] <dowingba> Megadeus, I don't see that happening unless the ubuntu partition tool is seriously screwed up
[07:40] <Megadeus> I used a freeware defragger to get almost all my files at the front of the drive, but there might have been one or two towards the end...
[07:40] <Megadeus> hrm.
[07:40] <CadeX> Any idea's?
[07:41] <Borden> There's something screwy going on, Cadex: your error message says "The creation of swap space in partition #5 of IDE2 slave (hdd) failed.", which suggests that it's trying to create a partition on a second slave IDE drive
[07:41] <dowingba> It's possible...repartitioning a drive you are currently using *is* risky, but I've never actually seen it happen
[07:41] <Borden> which, cadex, doesn't exist because you only have one drive, which should be the master
[07:41] <CadeX> I have a CD/DVD drive, and a 200GB hd.
[07:41] <ThomasM> THX-1138: microsoft obviously made no effort to support other OS's. So you chose a bad format, especially choosing to migrate to linux. FLAC is an excellent quality lossless audio codec, and it's supported on every OS. I use them for all of my cds, and believe me, its worth the time and space.
[07:42] <dowingba> what I used to do when I'd dual boot -- use a linux installer first just to set up partitions...then install windows, then install linux
[07:42] <Megadeus> hrm.
[07:42] <ThomasM> If its possible, i suggest you re-encode all of your cds to FLAC, as it's an open codec usable on all operating systems.
[07:42] <ThomasM> i wouldn't expect lossless wma support for a long long time, if ever, in linux.
[07:42] <Borden> CadeX, if you have a moment, poke around in your BIOS and see how your IDE drive is set up.  It should read something to the effect of "IDE drive, master" and everything else should be blank
[07:42] <dowingba> anyway, if you have an XP disk, you can try a repair, but you'll lose grub and have to install that off the ubuntu disk again
[07:43] <Megadeus> when we did the dual-boot in my OS class, we started off making partitions using a win98 boot disk and FDISK. that worked fine...
[07:43] <CadeX> @Borden, looking now.
[07:43] <dowingba> grub is the boot loader if you didnt' know
[07:43] <THX-1138> ThomasM: You really are trying to be helpful , thank you for that. - spending another 4 days opening cd cases and listening to my cd drives spin isn't an option.
[07:43] <Megadeus> I did, thanks.
[07:43] <ThomasM> THX-1138: then try this...
[07:43] <drumline> So, I just changed a ADS permission and I want it to apply to the Linux samba server...    do I just restart winbind?
[07:43] <Megadeus> I just hope my problem can be fixed with the repair disk.
[07:43] <awilcox> drumline, yeah
[07:43] <dowingba> I find the linux installers are usually more reliable at making partitions...it's hard to know what "F:" is going to be when it shows up in another OS
[07:44] <drumline> awilcox: sveet.  Thx.
[07:44] <ThomasM> THX-1138: use qemu or vmware player to install windows inside your linux, that way it can run inside a window on your desktop, and you can run WMP in there with full support.
[07:44] <awilcox> drumline np
[07:44] <Megadeus> well, I'm going to bed.
[07:44] <peeps> gparted livecd rocks for partitioning!
[07:44] <dowingba> g'night
[07:44] <awilcox> Megadeus g'night
[07:44] <Megadeus> I'll probably come back in here later if my windows doesn't repair itself.
[07:44] <Megadeus> thank you for all your help.
[07:44] <awilcox> Megadeus np
[07:44] <dowingba> no problem
[07:45] <Megadeus> If I shut down ubuntu correctly, it should save the windows mount, right?
[07:45] <dowingba> yeah it will
[07:45] <Megadeus> thanks.
[07:45] <Borden> secondly, CadeX, are you able to set up partitions (not write them, but just block them out) on the partition editor?
[07:45] <ThomasM> THX-1138: okay? and you can set up samba sharing between the virtual windows installation and ubuntu, that way you don't have to copy your files around.
[07:45] <Megadeus> Awilcox, you might be getting email from me.
[07:45] <Paul928> I need help with my update connection. Update appears to be looking for a proxy but I don't use one.
[07:45] <THX-1138> ThomasM: That might just do it. - No open source alternative seems to be available. Blaze media PRO would take at least a day to chew throught those files.
[07:46] <awilcox> Megadeus np
[07:46] <awilcox> :)
[07:46] <f4`vad3r> ok, i'm not sure what happened here but i'm trying to fix my brothers computer with what seems some serious partition issues, he had some unallocated space which he formatted as ntfs in gparted with no issue
[07:46] <ThomasM> THX-1138: i would seriously think about encoding the rest of your cds from now on in FLAC.
[07:46] <MaKaTiGuY> awil: can i add KDE in ubuntu?
[07:47] <ThomasM> yes
[07:47] <f4`vad3r> later, he split the partition to ntfs/fat32 in partition magic and since then ubuntu won't boot. the drive with ubuntu is also the same drive with the partition created by partition magic
[07:47] <ThomasM> install kubuntu-desktop
[07:47] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:47] <ThomasM> partition magic may have messed up grub.
[07:47] <f4`vad3r> i have since used the live cd and reinstalled grub thinking no big deal but it still hangs on boot
[07:47] <f4`vad3r> i can mount his ext3 part and everything seems to be there
[07:47] <AeonPax> how do i download WINE and install it later on my PC at home?
[07:48] <ThomasM> aeonPax: you can download a wine tarball.
[07:48] <f4`vad3r> i then launched gparted off the live cd and deleted the partitions he created in partition magic and then reinstalled grub again but still no dice
[07:48] <Borden> AeonPax - alternatively, you can download the .deb file from the package database
[07:48] <MaKaTiGuY> awil: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:48] <f4`vad3r> so far i think i've reinstalled grub 5 times, i'm not sure what else to try atthis point
[07:48] <Windwalker78> Can somebody help with this please. It is a big problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274764&highlight=8139
[07:49] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY, *sudo* apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and make sure Synaptic isn't running
[07:49] <Borden> Question to the group - is everyone's Rhythmbox working correctly on Dapper?
[07:49] <ThomasM> f4`vad3r: reinstall it, but choose not to overwrite the /home partition.
[07:49] <MaKaTiGuY> oik, tnx
[07:49] <ThomasM> that way his files will still be intact.
[07:49] <tieTYT2> ok so i installed ubuntu and it didn't ask me what i wanted my root password to be.  Am i supposed to not know what it is and just use sudo?
[07:50] <blv> supposed to yes
[07:50] <blv> you can set the rood password yourself though
[07:50] <Borden> ... cuz when I run Rhythmbox now it segfaults just after it opens - it didn't used to do that
[07:50] <MaKaTiGuY> awil: its downloading, so whats nxt?
[07:50] <tieTYT2> oh
[07:50] <mnepton> Windwalker78: have you tried Edgy?
[07:50] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY, you reboot, then select "KDE" as your session, then tada
[07:50] <ThomasM> Borden: if you don't mind installing Mono, i suggest you use banshee.
[07:50] <blv> tieTYT2: system list, users and groups, find root,
[07:50] <Windwalker78> I tried, but got a resolution problem on another pc...
[07:50] <Paul928> I get this error message when I try to update "  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[07:50] <Paul928> "
[07:51] <ThomasM> what port is :4001 ?
[07:51] <Borden> Thomas - yeah, I've installed banshee and it's working correctly
[07:51] <Windwalker78> it always came back to 640x480 after restart
[07:51] <blv> select properties, chagne the password
[07:51] <blv> exit those windows, then,
[07:51] <ThomasM> Borden: then why worry about rhythmbox?
[07:51] <Borden> I'm just more interested in the fact that something's gone broke on my machine
[07:51] <AeonPax> Borden: i dont know which to download in the WINE site.. i've installed 6.06 LTS at home.. could you please give me a specific link of WINE?
[07:51] <mnepton> Windwalker78: if the problem is with a faulty module, athe new builds may solve it. have others repordiced this problem and documented it in Launchpad?
[07:51] <Geoffrey2> Evolution started shooting this error at me tonight....Error while Storing folder 'Inbox', Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync...any idea what that means and how to take care of it?
[07:51] <MaKaTiGuY> awil: what is tada?
[07:51] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY, means you're done
[07:52] <awilcox> you know?
[07:52] <mnepton> MaKaTiGuY: "voila"
[07:52] <wickedpuppy>  lol
[07:52] <DraconPern> How do I configure init.d services?  they don't show up in the 'services' application
[07:52] <MaKaTiGuY> awil: on my other workspace, i downloaded the whole thing...
 I am a newbie. What do you mean by Launchpad?
[07:52] <blv> TYT, then system, administration, login screen setup,
[07:52] <MaKaTiGuY> hehehe
[07:52] <Borden> AeonPax - just a sec
[07:52] <MaKaTiGuY> slow
[07:52] <f4`vad3r> ThomasM yes i could reinstall, and hell i'd probably be done reinstalling by now, but there must be another way
[07:52] <mnepton> Windwalker78: http://launchpad.net
[07:52] <f4`vad3r> i've mounted his drive, all his files are there
[07:52] <Windwalker78> 10x
[07:52] <ThomasM> f4`vad3r: i'd say all that partitioning has totalled your partitions.
[07:52] <CadeX> Hmm, odd, I just swapped my IDE cables around in my pc and now it works. Oh well, i'm not complaining.
[07:52] <tieTYT2> blv: hm, i can't find root
[07:53] <blv> TYT, security, allow root to log in with GDM
[07:53] <AeonPax> ok Borden
[07:53] <Paul928> ThomasM _ looks like updateis trying to use a proxy and my connection doesn't use one.
[07:53] <tieTYT2> he's not in the list
[07:53] <blv> exit, log out, log in as root with your new pass.. ok..
[07:53] <f4`vad3r> ThomasM, yes there are probably some partition issues, but as I mentioned I can manually mount them fine from the livecd
[07:53] <ThomasM> do NOT log in as root in GDM
[07:53] <ThomasM> use sudo.
[07:53] <AeonPax> i'm really new to linux
[07:53] <CadeX> Me two.
[07:53] <blv> 'show all users and groups TYT'
[07:53] <AeonPax> but so far i like it
[07:53] <CadeX> I havent even tried it yet...
[07:53] <tieTYT2> ah i see
[07:53] <tieTYT2> thanks a lot
[07:53] <blv> yw
[07:54] <ThomasM> blv: why are you telling him how to log in as root?
[07:54] <Borden> Aeon & Cadex, don't worry, it took me months to get Debian working before I eventually defected to Ubuntu
[07:54] <azureal> hi; trying to obtain matto font.. totally forget where it is
[07:54] <blv> ThomasM I myself needed to login as root
[07:54] <Borden> AeonPax: the database of packages is at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:54] <azureal> google is no help =/
[07:55] <ThomasM> why is that?
[07:55] <ThomasM> nobody needs to log in as root ever.
[07:55] <Borden> AeonPax, specifically, wine is at http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/otherosfs/wine
[07:55] <blv> i couldnt access my other partitions
[07:55] <ThomasM> blv then use sudo nautilus
[07:55] <AeonPax> thanks a lot Borden
[07:55] <ThomasM> gksu nautilus
[07:55] <ThomasM> do it.
[07:55] <Borden> no problem, AeonPax
[07:55] <tieTYT2> i wanted to know because i was curious
[07:55] <blv> my files were in an NTFS partition
[07:55] <tieTYT2> i'm not gonna do it
[07:55] <Borden> Any luck CadeX?
[07:55] <ThomasM> well it will mess up your system if you're not careful
[07:56] <blv> im careful
[07:56] <ThomasM> blv: that does not matter, linux can read ntfs no problem.
[07:56] <wickedpuppy> blv, ntfs can be read by default when you mount ...
[07:56] <blv> i know
[07:56] <blv> one way was quicker than the other, i found root access before i looked up sudoing stuff
[07:56] <ThomasM> blv: that and you could've always mounted the drive inside your home folder.
[07:56] <ThomasM> using a sudo command.
[07:56] <peeps> i have an ntfs mount and never have to sudo or anything
[07:57] <blv> i installed ubuntu today
[07:57] <CadeX> I write stuff in PureBasic, which is multi-os, and apparently it isnt hard to convert windows sources to linux sources... So i'm quite happy as i'm a programmer.
[07:57] <Borden> AeonPax - sorry, that's not what you're looking for...
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> blv, i think what he was saying is .. its ok to know things but pls do not spread this cause it could damage the system especially for those new to linux
[07:57] <ThomasM> blv: well  take it from me, you never have to log in as root ever.
[07:57] <ThomasM> it is grossly insecure.
[07:57] <blv> alright
[07:57] <Squeee> what is the difference between madwifi and madwifi-ng?
[07:57] <ThomasM> yeah, newbs could hear things, do them, come back and ask why their system is broken.
[07:57] <Borden> AeonPax - do you know where to find the apt-get (or Synaptic) repositories?
[07:57] <ThomasM> root logins are disabled for good reason.
[07:58] <blv> im very accustomed to distros which arent as stressed about root
[07:58] <mnepton> blv: wel, they should be.
[07:58] <ThomasM> well ubuntu is a very newb centric distro... its designed to be as easy as possible, no questions asked, take it as we give it.\
[07:58] <mnepton> blv: a root login is a needless risk
[07:58] <blv> i will follow the orthodox here, i hear you. i came here with a question though, am i forgiveable?
[07:59] <ThomasM> yeah sure
[07:59] <mnepton> blv: what's the question? did it get answered?
[07:59] <blv> where is the fonts directory
[07:59] <blv> naw i didnt ask it yet
[07:59] <ThomasM> if you needed to know, and if you are experienced, you could look it up on the net, ask somebody privately or something...
[07:59] <mnepton> blv: for individual users, or system-wide?
[07:59] <ThomasM> but i would always suggest to others that they use sudo all of the time.
[07:59] <holycow> #dev
[08:00] <blv> im in a situation where im asked to use a specific font and not allowed another
[08:00] <blv> i need to install the font
[08:00] <ThomasM> blv: you can install fonts in nautilus using the fonts:// location
[08:00] <awilcox> blv, see /usr/local/fonts
[08:00] <blv> i think it would be appropriate now to ask how to sudo normally
[08:00] <mnepton> blv: fonts arte in /usr/share/fonts and you'll want to look into the app "fontconfig"
[08:00] <blv> thanks
[08:00] <azureal> eek....i found my matto font in lfpfonts...but i cant compile it!
[08:00] <azureal> it = lfpfonts
[08:01] <nebulasray> is synaptic gnome specific, as in if i install kde and uninstall gnome, will i still have access to it
[08:01] <ThomasM> blv: type sudo, it will ask you for root password. sudo is a temporary allotment of root powers.
[08:01] <wickedpuppy> nebulasray, i believe kubuntu has adept ... something like synaptic...
[08:01] <mnepton> nebulasray: you'll use Adept under KDE
[08:01] <blv> ok.. so its like su in other distros
[08:01] <awilcox> nebulasray, Synaptic works in KDE, I'm living proof
[08:01] <Healot> nebulasray: as long as you don't delete the GTK+ libraries
[08:01] <blv> ok.. i had a third question, which i remember now
[08:01] <GigaClon> it has kynaptic
[08:02] <wickedpuppy> blv, no ... su doesn't just mean superuser .. you can su to another user ..
[08:02] <blv> can i sudo apt-get install <dapper>?
[08:02] <DraconPern> I am trying to install sysvconfig (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SysvconfigHowTo)
[08:02] <Healot> synaptic or any other GTK+ apps will run
[08:02] <blv> oh?
[08:02] <DraconPern> it doesn't show up in synaptic?
[08:02] <mnepton> blv: no. what is it you're trying to do?
[08:02] <blv> im the only user on this comp
[08:02] <ThomasM> blv: you're using breezy?
[08:02] <blv> most stuff doesnt for me im just updating an older iso install
[08:02] <blv> synaptic
[08:02] <ianmacgregor> blv: Are you running Breezy and want to upgrade to Dapper?
[08:02] <AeonPax> Borden: what is the command line to install the WINE.deb file?
[08:03] <mnepton> blv: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:03] <Paul928> Does anyone have an explanatio/fix for this error on update? "  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[08:03] <Paul928> "
[08:03] <raknam> so i'm trying to execute vlc through an ssh server on my ubuntu machine, what is the syntax for that? vlc "path/filename"?
[08:03] <ThomasM> blv: you can add the dapper repositories, then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:03] <ianmacgregor> mnepton: That won't take him from Breezy to Dapper
[08:03] <peeps> AeonPax: dpkg -i <debfilename>
[08:03] <Borden> AeonPax - have you been able to find the wine .deb file because I haven't?
[08:03] <mnepton> ianmacgregor: it should if he updates the repos and gets the dapper stuff into sources.lst
[08:04] <AeonPax> Borden: yes i fould it
[08:04] <ianmacgregor> mnepton: Ahh, yes, if he updates the repos.
[08:04] <Borden> I've found the source and the uncompressed file, but nothing in a nice, neat package
[08:04] <Borden> oh, good
[08:04] <AeonPax> currently download
[08:04] <AeonPax> *downloading
[08:04] <awilcox> mnepton, that's sources.list, we're not on Windows anymore :P
[08:04] <mnepton> ianmacgregor: which is why "sudo apt-get update" is the first command ;)
[08:04] <Borden> yep, so ' dpkg -i <wine.deb or whatever it's called>' should work
[08:04] <blv> thanks all, immensely helpful
[08:04] <ianmacgregor> mnepton: That won't do anything until he manually edits the sources.list
[08:05] <mnepton> ianmacgregor: yes it will. we added Dapper repos to the Breezy sources.lst just before Dapper dropped
[08:05] <AeonPax> is "dpkg -i" the command to install the other packages?
[08:05] <peeps> works for any .deb file
[08:05] <ianmacgregor> mnepton: Oh, he already added the Dapper sources? Ok, I misunderstood.
[08:05] <Borden> dpkg -i installs a specific .deb file
[08:06] <AeonPax> ah..  ok.. i should try that when i get home
[08:06] <AeonPax> :)
[08:06] <AeonPax> thanks
[08:06] <mnepton> ianmacgregor: no worries. i can barely remember to put pants on before coming to work.
[08:06] <Borden> ... it doesn't handle things like dependencies by itself
[08:06] <Borden> but it'll probably complain
[08:06] <ianmacgregor> mnepton: hehe
[08:06] <awilcox> mnepton, that must be embarassing, :)
[08:06] <Borden> (sorry, I've gotten a bit addicted to Synaptic so my command-line skills are getting rusty :P)
[08:07] <scanf> why does gedit warn: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library when $LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[08:07] <scanf> I think en_US.UTF-8 support is pretty basic
[08:07] <mnepton> awilcox: not really. my genitalia are too small and shrivelled to be noticeable by anyone.
[08:07] <blv> peace out
[08:07] <mnepton> (wait, was that out loud?)
[08:07] <awilcox> mnepton, uh, yeah
[08:07] <mnepton> dammit
[08:07] <raknam> when i run media players from the command line, i get an error message 'Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?' does anyone know what i need to do? or what that means?
[08:07] <Borden> mnepton, thank you for sharing that.  You have make the room a far more comfortable place for all of us :D
[08:07] <mnepton> inside voice, outside voice.
[08:08] <Borden> raknam, are you running from a terminal?
[08:08] <raknam> yeah
[08:08] <raknam> i'm actually running it from an ssh terminal
[08:08] <wastrel> mmm ssh
[08:09] <azureal> sweet...
[08:09] <Borden> raknam, it sounds like it's complaining that it can't find an X session
[08:09] <kaot> raknam: over a lan?
[08:09] <kaot> raknam: try ssh -X
[08:09] <azureal> i have my new font =)
[08:09] <awilcox> raknam yes try ssh -X
[08:09] <awilcox> raknam even sudo won't run unless you use -X
[08:09] <ianmacgregor> raknam: you're ssh'd in? Have you tried ssh -X (X forwarding) instead of ssh ?
[08:09] <kaot> what?
[08:09] <CadeX> whoaa okay, i just finished installing ubuntu from the cd, it restarted and i took the cd out... now its at some console asking me for a password, and i don't even remember entering one?
[08:09] <raknam> i'm using putty on windows to acfcess my ubuntu machine
[08:09] <raknam> is that a problem?
[08:09] <awilcox> kaot, true
[08:10] <awilcox> raknam, yes, go delete Windows, install Ubuntu on there, then we'll talk     j/k
[08:10] <AeonPax> what is the package to play mp3 and xvid?
[08:10] <Borden> Aeon, there are lots of them
[08:10] <awilcox> AeonPax, uh, lame
[08:10] <awilcox> liblame0
[08:10] <ianmacgregor> raknam: Windows? Oh, I haven't used that in years.. can't help you there.
[08:10] <kaot> raknam: yeah, you don't have an X server to forward to in that case.
[08:10] <DraconPern> Hum... the help for 'services settings' is really wrong...
[08:10] <awilcox> kaot, they make X servers for Windows
[08:11] <raknam> oh ok...
[08:11] <awilcox> kaot, was in the Windows 95 Power Toys
[08:11] <kaot> awilcox: mostly they suck and I doubt he has one.
[08:11] <Borden> CadeX, was there a page where you had to set up your personal account?
[08:11] <Borden> ...which should have been before you did the partitioning?
[08:11] <AeonPax> oh... maybe i have to find it first before asking :D :D
[08:11] <raknam> so what i'm trying to do is run vlc on my desktop accross the room without having to get up (every red blooded american's dream) should this cause any problems for that?
[08:11] <CadeX>  okay, i just finished installing ubuntu from the cd, it restarted and i took the cd out... now its at some console asking me for a password, and i don't even remember entering one?
[08:12] <raknam> well i can get vlc to open up, i just can figure out how to get it to play the video i want
[08:12] <app> Greetings from a live Linux/ubuntu class. we are 15 people here, and I ask all: what's your best hint for Ubuntu users? My hint was this IRC channel...;-)
[08:12] <DraconPern> 'Getting started' in 'services started' is showing another program which I need.. ideas?
[08:12] <awilcox> app, use the Terminal, that's my Tip of the Day
[08:12] <ianmacgregor> app: http://ubuntuforums.org
[08:13] <kaot> app: live ubuntu class?  like, with a bunch of people in it?  Where's that?
[08:13] <awilcox> app, the whole tip:  The Terminal is more powerful than the UI.  Learn to love the terminal and hate X.
[08:13] <Healot> #ubuntu-classroom
[08:13] <awilcox> :)
[08:13] <Borden> CadeX, is it a graphical login console or a text one?
[08:13] <kaot> oh.  Thought he meant like, a class at some community college or something.  :\
[08:13] <awilcox> kaot yeah I did too, like at the rec center :)
[08:14] <Healot> ubuntu books are everywhere nowadays
[08:14] <awilcox> If my city can hold MS Office classes at the rec center, I should start a Linux class
[08:14] <CadeX> Text.
[08:14] <DraconPern> is there a sysvconfig equivalent in ubuntu?
[08:14] <ianmacgregor> Amazon.com has several Ubuntu books.
[08:14] <wastrel> update-rc.d mebby
[08:14] <wastrel> dunno what sysvconfig does
[08:14] <ianmacgregor> DraconPern: yes, sysv-rc-conf is a nice cli app for that
[08:14] <kaot> DraconPern: something like sysv-rc-conf?
[08:14] <app> Yes, we really are here in Helsinki, in a classroom!!!
[08:14] <awilcox> Barnes & Noble (bn.com), Books-A-Million (bamm.com) and Borders (borders.com) all have a wide variety of Ubuntu books
[08:14] <CadeX> "Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthod" david tty1     david login: _\
[08:15] <Borden> oohhhh, you're using Warty
[08:15] <ianmacgregor> awilcox: Thank you for that :)
[08:15] <awilcox> Warty?  still using Warty?  wowwww
[08:15] <kaot> app: that's pretty neat.
[08:15] <awilcox> app:  Coolness :)
[08:15] <CadeX> I got it from my work, i downloaded version 6 yesterday but my pc refused to boot from it.
[08:15] <CadeX> Burned it onto a cd.
[08:16] <kaot> CadeX: my iso was b0rked too.  I ended up doing it via update manager.  upgrade manager.  whatever it's called.
[08:16] <awilcox> CadeX, may I recommend if you can get that thing running to do a dist-upgrade :)
[08:16] <johnficca> Hi I use ubuntu but then I tried kubuntu so I downloaded the kubuntu desktop but it changed my boot splash to the kubuntu one, does anyone know how to change it back?
[08:16] <Borden> well, awilcox, he can't do a dist-upgrade because he can't log in!
[08:16] <peeps> app: I used ubuntuguide.org a lot as a newbie getting started
[08:16] <azureal> hmm...does anyone know why my abiword is having a very hard time reading .odt files?
[08:16] <CadeX> Yes, i didn't even get to enter a password :/
[08:17] <awilcox> azureal, uh, try oowriter?
[08:17] <Borden> Cadex - I guess 'Enter' doesn't cut it?
[08:17] <CadeX> I got to enter my usename.
[08:17] <CadeX> Nope, it doesn't.
[08:17] <peeps> app: and the forums of course.  the community is one of the best advantages of ubuntu
[08:18] <azureal> awilcox, i would, if there was a point to installing 280 mb over 50mb
[08:18] <yoshiznit123> hi everyone, i have two ubuntu computers that i have connected with a crossover cable, and one is serving dhcp to the other. the problem is, the dhcp client can't ssh or ftp to the "server", although the other way around works.. any ideas?
[08:18] <Borden> so, Cadex, do you remember when you were installing it whether it asked you to set up an account?
[08:18] <kaot> CadeX: try "ubuntu"
[08:18] <azureal> awilcox, i've had mixed experiences w/ openoffice's bugginess
[08:18] <nebulasray> johnficca, it's under system->administration->login window
[08:18] <azureal> + slowness!
[08:18] <DraconPern> hum.. sysv-rc-conf isn't in synaptic. so.. is there any way to enable/disable rc5.d?
[08:18] <Marconius> hello, I was wondering if anyone had any info or suggestions on installing ubuntu on to a compact flash
[08:18] <CadeX> All it asked for was the name i wanted to call my computer.
[08:18] <ianmacgregor> !sysv-rc-conf
[08:18] <ubotu> sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-3 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[08:19] <CadeX> And no, it still asks for a password.
[08:19] <johnficca> nebulasray, thank you
[08:19] <ianmacgregor> DraconPern: it's in universe
[08:19] <dude> awil: its done, i've installed KDE, but its the same
[08:19] <Borden> kaot, is there some way that cadex can re-run baseconfig without logging in :S?
[08:19] <kaot> DraconPern: I believe the package name is sysvconfig
[08:19] <johnficca> nebulasray, I can change the boot splash screen there?
[08:19] <DraconPern> 'universe'?  sorry for the dumb question, I was mostly a redhat person.
[08:20] <nebulasray> cadeX, you might try the adduser command at the prompt:   add user -username- than it will ask for you to enter a password
[08:20] <DraconPern> I did a search for all packages of 'sysv', and only got sysvinit and sysv-rc
[08:20] <CadeX> It doesn't even let me enter a command.
[08:20] <Borden> Cadex, put the CD back in the tray and reboot
[08:20] <CadeX> Alright.
[08:20] <CadeX> Trying
[08:20] <Borden> it's possible that it hasn't finished installing yet
[08:21] <MaKaTiGuY> awil: how do i switch to KDE?
[08:21] <johnficca> I need to know how to change the usplash screen back to the ubuntu one
[08:21] <kaot> DraconPern: ah I found it, the package name is sysv-rc-conf, and it's in universe
[08:21] <CadeX> The message told me to remove the cd because its now rebooting, never said anything about putting it  back in.
[08:21] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY, do you see the session dropdown thing?
[08:21] <kaot> DraconPern: so maybe just try sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[08:22] <ianmacgregor> kaot: I think he needs to enable universe first
[08:22] <CadeX> Nope, it takes me back to the start of the installation.
[08:22] <Borden> hmm....
[08:22] <kaot> ianmacgregor: thought that was enabled by default.  been a while since I messed with my sources.
[08:22] <MaKaTiGuY> awil: where is dat?
[08:22] <CadeX> i'll go through it all again and carefully see if i was supposed to enter one.
[08:22] <mnepton> man, what a difference having jEdit available on my work thin client makes. it's stupid hopw much i love this editor. :)
[08:23] <ianmacgregor> kaot: He said he can't find sysv-rc-conf so I assumed he hadn't enabled universe yet.
[08:23] <DraconPern> kaot: it says, it is not availble, but referenced to by another package?
[08:23] <Borden> Cadex - that's what I would do... I was hoping that you could avoid having to spend yet another 10 minutes staring at a little blue bar at your machine
[08:23] <Borden> but I guess it's better that than wasting 20 minutes to figure out how to get around it
[08:23] <nebulasray> johnficca, in your home directory there should be a .kde folder, you can remove the kde spash image and replace it with the gnome image, if you know the name
[08:23] <kaot> DraconPern: ianmacgregor's probably right, check and make sure you've got universe enabled.
[08:24] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY, in the log in screen
[08:24] <awilcox> where you type your name and password
[08:24] <mnepton> DraconPern: are you trying to alter what runs at what runlevels?
[08:24] <Squeee> How would I go about removing the madwifi drivers built into ubuntu?
[08:24] <johnficca> ok
[08:24] <CadeX> Well, i can't get the version i downloaded of ubuntu to boot up which i downloaded yesterday.
[08:24] <mnepton> CadeX: did you verify the burn at the first boot menu?
[08:24] <DraconPern> mnepton: yes, I am surprised that it is so hard to do on ubuntu vs other distro...
[08:24] <ianmacgregor> CadeX: Did you check the md5sum before burning? It may be a bad burn.
[08:25] <Borden> do you still have the Dapper CD, Cadex?
[08:25] <mnepton> DraconPern: install *nothing*. man update-rc.d and man invoke-rc.d
[08:25] <MaKaTiGuY> there's no log screen,
[08:25] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY, ??
[08:25] <DraconPern> Isn't update-rc.d for package manager only?
[08:25] <peeps> Makatiguy: click the button to log out of gnome, and it should kick you to the log in screen i think
[08:26] <CadeX> Heres what i did: Unzipped the iso, copied the files accross to a temporary file and let windows xp write it to them.
[08:26] <awilcox> so where do you type your name and password?
[08:26] <MaKaTiGuY> ok
[08:26] <awilcox> MaKaTiGuY, you have to reboot
[08:26] <salami> yo
[08:26] <Laris> Hello
[08:26] <Thuryn> sup?
[08:26] <mnepton> DraconPern: nope. users can (and should) use it to adjust runlevel executions.
[08:26] <awilcox> Hello Laris, salami, and Thuryn.
[08:26] <johnficca> nebulasray, I found it the terminal command is: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[08:26] <MaKaTiGuY> ok
[08:27] <Borden> Cadex, are you saying that you tried to copy the .iso directly to the CD?
[08:27] <CadeX> No, i unzipped the iso.
[08:27] <johnficca> nebulasray,  thanks for your help
[08:27] <awilcox> Borden, basically he mounted it and cp'd it to a XP machine
[08:27] <CadeX> Unzip -> Place in temp file -> Windows burnt it.
[08:27] <awilcox> CadeX, you have to burn the ISO directly, using something like cdrecord
[08:27] <awilcox> not the FILE, but you have to burn it
[08:27] <CadeX> Oh f***.
[08:27] <mnepton> CadeX: use CDBurnerXP to burn the image file. the app is free, and there is a step-by-step HOWTO for Ubuntu + CDBurnerXP
[08:28] <ianmacgregor> CadeX: burn the ISO as an image, not as a file
[08:28] <awilcox> like dd if=whatever.iso of=/dev/hdc (but don't do that, it doesn't work)
[08:28] <mnepton> CadeX: GIYF here
[08:28] <nebulasray> cadeX, there will be an option, usually burn image
[08:28] <CadeX> Alright, alright alright.. I'll try again.
[08:28] <awilcox> CadeX, burn it in Linux like this:
[08:28] <Borden> yeah, cadex, the problem with unzipping it like that is that it probably won't write the CD in such a way that it's bootable
[08:28] <awilcox> sudo cdrecord -dao dev=atapi:0,0,0 ubuntu.iso
[08:28] <Borden> I'm surprised that you could pry the .iso open which is why I had to double-check
[08:29] <awilcox> Borden, easy, just mount it
[08:29] <kraut> moin
[08:29] <ianmacgregor> Borden: mounting an ISO is easy
[08:29] <awilcox> Borden, e.g.    mount -t iso9660 iso-name ~/iso
[08:29] <Borden> I've never tried to mount an iso
[08:29] <PerhamX> hello guys
[08:29] <Borden> especially in Windows
[08:29] <Borden> which is what Cadex is working out of still
[08:29] <awilcox> Borden, easier in Windows with a special MS utility
[08:29] <peeps> but can you boot from an iso on hard drive?
[08:30] <awilcox> peeps, no :)
[08:30] <awilcox> PerhamX hello
[08:30] <Borden> well, I learnt something new today :P
[08:30] <PerhamX> i have a question on my pci modem
[08:30] <awilcox> Hey I have a question too
[08:30] <awilcox> I have 156M free, what can I get rid of?
[08:30] <PerhamX> it's a conexant based modem.
[08:30] <awilcox> /dev/hda3             5.5G  5.0G  156M  98% /
[08:30] <PerhamX> but i want to install it on my ubuntu64
[08:31] <awilcox> PerhamX, yes, hold on
[08:31] <Borden> PerhamX, my guess is that you'll be using intel drivers
[08:31] <PerhamX> no linuxants
[08:31] <Borden> not that I knew what your question was or anything :P
[08:31] <awilcox> Linuxant adds ATI, SIS, x86_64 support in new improved version of HSF driver!
[08:31] <awilcox> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/?PHPSESSID=9e0c36bea39f05ca6f3c5c5e2439a180
[08:31] <awilcox> PerhamX, Linuxant works well
[08:32] <peeps> awilcox: apt-get clean ?
[08:32] <PerhamX> but no packages of it can match my ubuntu
[08:32] <Borden> ah, maybe it's different on my 32-bit laptop that uses conexant for both sound and the modem
[08:32] <Healot> get a real modem :)
[08:32] <PerhamX> even the source tar
[08:32] <Borden> ... but actually uses the intel drivers :S
[08:32] <nebulasray> awil, remove some of the pr0n or get a new HD
[08:32] <peeps> lol
[08:33] <CadeX> pwned.
[08:33] <ianmacgregor> lol
[08:33] <peeps> yeah you can get compact flash bigger than that these days
[08:33] <awilcox> nebulasray, no pr0n here
[08:33] <wastrel> awilcox:  check /var/cache/apt/archives  - may need to clear out old packages
[08:33] <PerhamX> i'm new with my ubuntu
[08:33] <Borden> speaking of Windows, I have two somewhat unrelated questions: 1 - is it possible to change the Desktop folder to something other than ~/Desktop?
[08:33] <PerhamX> and i have the same problem on my suse 10.1
[08:34] <awilcox> wastrel, oh heavens, can I remove everything in there?
[08:34] <awilcox> nebulasray, it's a 30G with wayyyyy too much towards Windows
[08:34] <PerhamX> couldnt match any drivers with this modem although it's identified
[08:34] <ianmacgregor> awilcox: in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[08:34] <awilcox> ianmacgregor yes
[08:34] <ianmacgregor> awilcox: sudo apt-get clean
[08:34] <awilcox> sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[08:34] <Borden> 2 - why doesn't the trash bin in GNOME work like it does in Windows where there's an automatic restore function and a capacity limit so I don't clutter up my disk in rubbish that I'm too afraid to delete permanently
[08:34] <misieq> !symbian
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about symbian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <awilcox> ianmacgregor, well okay
[08:34] <awilcox> :)
[08:35] <awilcox> 389M free wow
[08:35] <misieq> how do i install symbian uiq 3 sdk?
[08:35] <PerhamX>  :(
[08:35] <Borden> good man, awilcox :)
[08:35] <PerhamX>  :'(
[08:35] <awilcox> PerhamX, what's wrong?
[08:35] <Arafangion> Why did Ubuntu choose Gnome? (I'm expecting a good url). Scratch that, what's the reason why Gnome is now very popular in Redhat, Solaris, Ubuntu, and so on.
[08:36] <PerhamX> i cant get my modem to work!
[08:36] <wastrel> historically, license issues with kde i believe
[08:36] <PerhamX> and no ones helping me!
[08:36] <Arafangion> PerhamX: What kind of modem?
[08:36] <nebulasray> gnome is more "free" than kde
[08:36] <ianmacgregor> Arafangion: I think gnome is popular due to it being the default desktop in Red Hat for so long.
[08:36] <awilcox> I hate GNOME personally.  KDE FTW
[08:36] <PerhamX> conexant
[08:36] <PerhamX> i dont know what package to choose
[08:36] <ianmacgregor> !conexant
[08:36] <CadeX> If i can port my DLL over to linux i think my program might be worth a little more then $20 AU.
[08:36] <Arafangion> ianmacgregor: That's a good point.
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conexant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <awilcox> linuxant!
[08:36] <Arafangion> CadeX: Which DLL?
[08:37] <awilcox> PerhamX, please, use Linuxant, it got all three of my Conexant modems working
[08:37] <ZzMVzZ> hello.. i have a weird issue with running kde apps in gnome
[08:37] <PerhamX> all packages for ubuntu is i386
[08:37] <ZzMVzZ> for some reason, if i have firefox running.. dcopserver goes defunct
[08:37] <KenSentMe> PerhamX: you could try searching the forum at http://ubuntuforums.org
[08:37] <Arafangion> PerhamX: Which laptop?
[08:37] <Borden> Perham, fire up a terminal and type lspci
[08:37] <CadeX> A compression/compact dll i wrote for windows, i sell licenced versions of it for $20 AU.
[08:37] <ZzMVzZ> if close firefox, then i can run any kde apps
[08:37] <ZzMVzZ> its very odd
[08:37] <Arafangion> CadeX: Care to /query me?
[08:37] <CadeX> I've already made about $500+
[08:37] <ZzMVzZ> can anyone point me to some clues?
[08:37] <awilcox> ZzMBzZ, if I have Firefox (or even Konqueror) running my KDE IRC client blows up, e.g. why I'm on irssi right now :)
[08:37] <PerhamX> my home computer, 64-bit core 2 duo
[08:38] <ZzMVzZ> awilcox: hmm
[08:38] <ZzMVzZ> awilcox:i hear ya on that :P
[08:38] <Arafangion> awilcox: A damn good client, that one :) (Especially in screen)
[08:38] <ianmacgregor> Arafangion: CadeX isn't id'd to nickserv so you may not be able to see his replies in a pm
[08:38] <ZzMVzZ> awilcox: but.. it was working a cpl days ago
[08:38] <ZzMVzZ> which is the werird thing
[08:38] <PerhamX> how can i compile the source tar in ubuntu?
[08:38] <ZzMVzZ> just today it stopped working
[08:38] <Arafangion> CadeX: Identify thyself!
[08:38] <awilcox> ZzMBzZ, yes right now
[08:38] <awilcox> ZzMBzZ, I mean yes, me too
[08:38] <PerhamX> it doesnt have make command?
[08:38] <CadeX> Uh..
[08:38] <ZzMVzZ> hmm
[08:38] <awilcox> ZzMBzZ, it worked a couple days ago, then boom
[08:38] <ZzMVzZ> is it something that was updated today...
[08:38] <ZzMVzZ> lets see
[08:39] <awilcox> ZzMBzZ, more like KABLAM BOOM BANG POOF PACOW!
[08:39] <CadeX> Why do you want me to quary you? lol.
[08:39] <wastrel> PerhamX:  install build-essential
[08:39] <ZzMVzZ> 2006-10-12 07:38:56 status unpacked libmusicbrainz4c2a 2.1.2-2ubuntu3.1
[08:39] <Arafangion> CadeX: I wanted to discuss your .dll ;)
[08:39] <misieq> PerhamX: apt-get install buil-essential
[08:39] <ZzMVzZ> just libmusicbrain
[08:39] <ZzMVzZ> whatever that is
[08:39] <ZzMVzZ> thats all i see
[08:39] <misieq> *build-essential
[08:39] <nebulasray> perhamX, tar -zxvf- file
[08:40] <ZzMVzZ> hmm soo oddd
[08:40] <nebulasray> oh nm if your using apt i dunno heh
[08:40] <CadeX> Get anything, Arafangion?
[08:40] <Arafangion> CadeX: No,  you must identify yourself to nickserv.
[08:40] <Borden> PerhamX, better still, run
[08:40] <Borden> >lspci | grep -i modem
[08:40] <CadeX> How?
[08:40] <PerhamX> so i must run : "install build-essential" in the directory of my package?
[08:40] <CadeX> I don't often use IRC :/
[08:40] <misieq> PerhamX: no
[08:40] <ianmacgregor> CadeX: /msg nickserv help register
[08:40] <PerhamX> so what?
[08:40] <misieq> perform "sudo apt-get install build-essentail"
[08:41] <misieq> *essential
[08:41] <misieq> "build-essential"
[08:41] <PerhamX> i dont have internet connection in linux.
[08:41] <PerhamX> i'm in windows now
[08:41] <Arafangion> PerhamX: Again, which laptop do you have?
[08:41] <misieq> then extract your .tar file "tar xf filename.tar"
[08:41] <PerhamX> i said myhome x86_64
[08:41] <awilcox> Arafangion, it's on my Compaq Presario 5700N and Presario 7360 desktops too
[08:41] <PerhamX> core 2 duo
[08:41] <misieq> "cd filename"
[08:41] <awilcox> PerhamX, he means model name
[08:42] <misieq> and make then
[08:42] <awilcox> PerhamX, like Compaq Presario 2100US for me
[08:42] <PerhamX> i made it my self
[08:42] <awilcox> laptop?
[08:42] <PerhamX> desktop
[08:42] <awilcox> thank you :)
[08:42] <scanf> why does gedit warn: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library when $LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[08:42] <scanf> I think en_US.UTF-8 support is pretty basic
[08:42] <PerhamX> youre welcome
[08:42] <awilcox> Arafangion, it's a WhiteBox Laptop
[08:42] <awilcox> ****Desktop
[08:43] <Arafangion> awilcox: By "it", do you mean kde, or conexant?
[08:43] <Borden> PerhamX, before you start messing around with tars, run lspci | grep -i modem - there's a chance that Ubuntu's already detected your modem
[08:43] <awilcox> Conexant
[08:43] <mnepton> scanf: you writing code with gEdit?
[08:43] <scanf> no
[08:43] <awilcox> I like Kdevelop for writing code myself
[08:43] <awilcox> at least Kate
[08:43] <scanf> just need gtk unicode support
[08:43] <PerhamX> it is a detected modem but it's not a driver
[08:43] <PerhamX> it says  pnp device
[08:43] <mnepton> scanf: so this error just happens when you launch gEdit?
[08:43] <scanf> for code Iuse vim
[08:43] <PerhamX>  and it doesnt work with that driver
[08:44] <scanf> mnepton: for all gnome/gtk apps
[08:44] <lansing> i got a question where do i go to get games
[08:44] <Borden> Perham, it may just be a configuration issue if it's being detected correctly
[08:44] <awilcox> lansing, apt-cache search game
[08:44] <PerhamX> not correctly
[08:44] <awilcox> lansing, or look in Synaptic or "Games & Entertainment"
[08:44] <PerhamX> it doesnt detect even the chipset of modde
[08:44] <lansing> k thanx
[08:44] <PerhamX> modem*
[08:44] <mnepton> scanf: sounds like you might want to check your default encoding methods, and look into the english language support packages and perhaps re-install tjem
[08:44] <ianmacgregor> scanf: You might like Under A Steel Sky and Flight Of The Amazon Queen, both are in the repos.
[08:44] <Borden> does it detect 'a modem'?
[08:44] <mnepton> *them
[08:45] <scanf> <ianmacgregor: huh?
[08:45] <PerhamX> no it says a pnp device is attached in device managaer
[08:45] <Borden> ah, okay
[08:45] <awilcox> ianmacgregor, you mean to direct that to lansing
[08:45] <ianmacgregor> scanf: Sorry, wrong nick
[08:46] <Borden> I hope you don't have to recompile your kernel over this :S
[08:46] <PerhamX> me?
[08:46] <ianmacgregor> awilcox: Yeah, it's this keyboard, it types what I type instead of what I mean, lol
[08:46] <PerhamX> don't talk about it!
[08:46] <lansing> wen i do the search how do i install them to my computer
[08:46] <awilcox> ianmacgregor :)
[08:47] <KenSentMe> lansing: click on the box next to the package and select install.
[08:47] <Borden> perhamx - well what do you know of compiling modules?  Unfortunately, drivers in Linux don't work quite the same way as they do in Windows
[08:47] <PerhamX> almost nothing
[08:47] <PerhamX> except
[08:47] <PerhamX> configure
[08:47] <PerhamX> make
[08:47] <PerhamX> make install
[08:47] <Borden> then, perhamx, you officially know more than I do
[08:48] <PerhamX> how?
[08:48] <Squeee> !module-assistant
[08:48] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[08:48] <Squeee> try that
[08:48] <PerhamX> i can only run those commands not making them!
[08:48] <Borden> I have to admit, I miss the one-click-install days in Windows
[08:49] <wastrel> installshield makes a linux version iirc
[08:50] <PerhamX> windows is definitly user friendlier than linux!
[08:50] <PerhamX> but i love linux
[08:50] <wastrel> but it's $ of course
[08:50] <zoidberg> guys i have a question....how do u install a .sh file (shell file)?
[08:50] <Borden> I agree, PerhamX
[08:50] <Arafangion> PerhamX: Incorrect.
[08:50] <Arafangion> PerhamX: Windows is merely more *familiar*
[08:51] <mnepton> zoidberg: you don't. you just run it.
[08:51] <Borden> no need to get defensive, arafangion - the user-friendliness of Windows is also the root of its problems
[08:51] <PerhamX> i think linu is a modern religion
[08:51] <zoidberg> mnepton: how do i run it from the terminal
[08:51] <PerhamX> linux*
[08:51] <Borden> zoidberg: you can pop it into one of your bin paths
[08:51] <mnepton> zoidberg: and if you want to use it frequently, put it somewhere and add that location to your shell's $PATH variable
[08:51] <CadeX> Uhm, i just burnt the ubuntu disk using CDBurnXP, from the ISO... still wont boot up from it.
[08:51] <wastrel> no
[08:51] <CadeX> Son of a beech.
[08:52] <wastrel> it's an installer with .sh  just run  sh filename.sh
[08:52] <mnepton> zoidberg: cd to where it is and type "./foobar.sh" (no quotes)
[08:52] <peeps> zoidberg: you might have to give it execute permissions "chmod +x filename.sh"
[08:52] <wastrel> or  that if it's executable flagged
[08:52] <PerhamX> windows is familiar and user friendly arafangion
[08:52] <PerhamX> because you can install devices with one click
[08:53] <eclipse75> question: every time i try to load swiftfox, firefox, or galeon, and try to watch a flash video(google video or youtube) with sound, the sound wont work.
[08:53] <PerhamX> or just install a program in 5 clicks
[08:53] <eclipse75> and i closed all apps that might be interferring with alsa
[08:53] <mnepton> CadeX: follow these instructions, and do not burn at >8x speed - http://www.cdburnerxp.se/help/burniso
[08:53] <PerhamX> but linux has much more idea behind it
[08:53] <wastrel> eclipse75:  did you do the sound fix thing on the restrictedformats wiki page?
[08:54] <peeps> !flash
[08:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:54] <Borden> yeah, Perham, one of the hardest things for me to do with Linux is to get used to the paradigm - it's a completely different way of looking at a computer
[08:54] <Arafangion> CadeX: And check the md5
[08:54] <eclipse75> wastrel, its worked before. usually does work
[08:54] <mnepton> PerhamX: Windows is about as user friendly as a propane tank farm fire. ;)
[08:54] <boink> heh :)
[08:54] <Healot> Borden: its not new, really
[08:54] <Arafangion> Borden: More consistent, too.
[08:54] <Arafangion> Borden: (Ironically)
[08:54] <boink> ubuntu has done a very good job in making linux less painful
[08:54] <Borden> Healot - you're right it's not new -it's just different
[08:55] <eclipse75> as far as operating windows, its easiest. as far as maintenance... well we all got the idea
[08:55] <boink> I'm an experienced linux nerd, and I'm learning as well
[08:55] <Borden> It's like Latin and English - they take two completely different views at looking at a language
[08:55] <eclipse75> eh ubuntu is bloated though compared to slackware
[08:55] <eclipse75> =)
[08:55] <Borden> fortunately, English isn't proprietary :-D
[08:55] <boink> bloated? Slackware can be bloated too
[08:55] <Borden> anything can be bloated
[08:55] <CadeX> Okay, now i have 2 coasters.
[08:55] <eclipse75> it can be, if you choose for it to be
[08:56] <CadeX> Wonder if i'll have a third this time :/
[08:56] <PerhamX> ubuntu, linux for human beings
[08:56] <boink> the Slackware pkg system is a total disaster
[08:56] <mnepton> eclipse75: certainly, if you use the terms "bloated" and "functional" interchangeably
[08:56] <eclipse75> as default installation, slack is less bloated
[08:56] <PerhamX> but i still cant run my modem on it
[08:56] <Hammad> anyone know how to get an access point?
[08:56] <Borden> CadeX, see if the disk autoruns in Windows
[08:56] <PerhamX> :)
[08:56] <ianmacgregor> Please take the distro wars to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:56] <mnepton> PerhamX: Winmodem?
[08:56] <boink> sure
[08:56] <eclipse75> boink, the pkg system is more stable than any other distro pretty much
[08:56] <elmargol> PerhamX: I think you don't have a modem
[08:56] <Hammad> After hours and days of learning and googling I figured out how to get my Wireless On
[08:56] <boink> eclipse75: you're joking
[08:56] <Arafangion> boink: Merey /different/
[08:56] <eclipse75> ... no i am not
[08:56] <Hammad> Now i just need to connect to my router
[08:56] <PerhamX> man, i installed it myself!
[08:57] <PerhamX> eith my hands!
[08:57] <boink> when you install something with pkg_add with slackware, it doesn't install all of the deps
[08:57] <Hammad> does anyone know how?
[08:57] <Borden> CadeX: if it doesn't run in Windows, then it may be a problem with either the burn or the ISO or something
[08:57] <Arafangion> boink: Slack is an extremely traditional *server*
[08:57] <boink> you can that functional?
[08:57] <boink> s/can/call/
[08:57] <mnepton> PerhamX: Winmodem?
[08:57] <PerhamX> with*
[08:57] <Hammad> can someone help me
[08:57] <jesper> Hi. I have a ATI Radeon 9200 that I'd really like to get to work on an Ubuntu MythTV box.. But I cannot seem to get TV-out working? Any tips?
[08:57] <elmargol> PerhamX: thats 80% a damn winmodem
[08:57] <eclipse75> that is why it can run on a 486 with 11, it uses 2.4 kernel because there are no stability issues
[08:57] <PerhamX> yes
[08:57] <boink> with ubuntun, apt-get install does install of the deps
[08:57] <Borden> hey!  guys!  what about my questions?
[08:57] <PerhamX> win modem!
[08:57] <Hammad> anyone know about access points?
[08:57] <boink> Borden: ask again :)
[08:57] <ianmacgregor> !winmodem
[08:57] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[08:57] <mnepton> PerhamX: you know that's not really a modem, right? it's a sound card.
[08:57] <PerhamX> windows is getting everywhere
[08:57] <Hammad> wireless lan
[08:58] <Hammad> wlan0
[08:58] <Borden> thanks boink ;)
[08:58] <PerhamX> what?!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:58] <eclipse75> but yeah anyways
[08:58] <boink> I used Slackware and I don't like it
[08:58] <Borden> 1 - is it possible to get the trash bin in GNOME to work like it does in Windows - with a one-click restore and a capacity limit
[08:58] <eclipse75> well everything is more manually done
[08:58] <eclipse75> and everybody has their oppinions
[08:58] <Hammad> does anyone know wlan0?
[08:58] <Hammad> can someone help me
[08:59] <boink> !ask
[08:59] <mnepton> PerhamX: Winmodems are not modem hardware. they are sound hardware. the driver supplied by the OEM for Windows causes that sound card to emit tones and act as a modem. but all tis stuff happens in software, not hardware.
[08:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:59] <Healot> !wifi
[08:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:59] <Hammad> i just need to configure access point
[08:59] <boink> !ask
[08:59] <eclipse75> man iwconfig
[08:59] <eclipse75> ifconfig, iwconfig, iwlist
[08:59] <eclipse75> and dhcpcd
[08:59] <boink> !tell Hammad about ask
[08:59] <Hammad> iwconfig
[08:59] <Borden> 2 - how do you change the Desktop directory to something other than ~/Desktop/
[08:59] <CadeX> Attempt #3, Now, will i have a third cup coaster?
[08:59] <Borden> GO!
[08:59] <mnepton> PerhamX: there's a package in Multiverse or Universe that gets (most) Winmodems working. lemme try and find it.
[09:00] <Borden> CadeX - does attempt 2 autorun in Windows?
[09:00] <Arafangion> CadeX: You could very well have a corrupt download.
[09:00] <PerhamX> mnepton: so i have 2 sound cards in my computer!
[09:00] <CadeX> No, i'm just burning it incorrectly according to you guys.
[09:00] <ianmacgregor> CadeX: Did you check the md5 of that ISO before burning?
[09:00] <CadeX> And yes it does work in windows.
[09:00] <CadeX> Yes
[09:00] <mnepton> PerhamX: yup. but one of them will only act as something that makes modem0like sounds.
[09:01] <eclipse75> anybody know what could be causing my internet browsers to not being able to play audio
[09:01] <eclipse75> ?
[09:01] <Borden> ... and CadeX's BIOS is configured to boot from the CD before the hard disk
[09:01] <awilcox> PerhamX, when you hear something like "Weee-wooooooooo-hissssssssss-sweeee-ooooooo-wee-oooo"
[09:01] <awilcox> PerhamX, its working :)
[09:01] <CadeX> Borden: Yes, it is.
[09:01] <kyle_> i have a screenshot i need someone to pleease look at, who can give good advice
[09:01] <Borden> eclipse, fire up a terminal and type pstree
[09:01] <awilcox> eclipse, REAR the Wiki.
[09:01] <awilcox> *READ the Wiki
[09:01] <boink> depends on which audio you're trying to play
[09:01] <ianmacgregor> awilcox: Nice ascii sound effect :)
[09:01] <PerhamX> i'm connected with that modem now!
[09:01] <awilcox> boink, Flash
[09:01] <PerhamX> in windows!
[09:01] <eclipse75> awilcox, read what wiki?
[09:02] <awilcox> !flash
[09:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:02] <awilcox> eclipse75, the RestrictedFormats link
[09:02] <kismet_> as I'm trying to use the Ubuntu Installer, I keep get I/O errors on device hdd <--- which device would this be?
[09:02] <PerhamX> i have a legal question.
[09:02] <awilcox> ianmacgregor, thanks :)
[09:02] <PerhamX> i had many mp3 files
[09:02] <PerhamX> and after getting linux
[09:02] <Borden> eclipse, it could be that you have an audio program running in the background that's hogging your sound driver
[09:02] <PerhamX> i converted all to ogg.
[09:02] <PerhamX> is that legal?
[09:02] <awilcox> kismet_, second CD drive or Fourth HD
[09:02] <boink> that's kewl
[09:02] <boink> PehamX: it's legal
[09:02] <eclipse75> awilcox, it isnt restricted. i was playing it earlier...
[09:02] <awilcox> PerhamX, yes
[09:02] <PerhamX> do i have the license to do that?
[09:03] <boink> it's like recording to cassettes
[09:03] <eclipse75> ive already enabled wmv and mp3...
[09:03] <kismet_> hdc would then be 1st CD drive or 3rd HD???
[09:03] <boink> no
[09:03] <Arafangion> PerhamX: Depends on your country.
[09:03] <boink> you can have mp3/ogg for personal use
[09:03] <kyle_> i've had this bad firefox problem for a day now, firefox doesn't run and it inturrupted my update to dapper, "error creating symbolic link `./usr/bin/firefox'"
[09:03] <PerhamX> Iran.
[09:03] <awilcox> eclipse75, no no no Flash is a Restricted Format, as in it's not legal to use in some weird countries :)
[09:03] <boink> but when you start to sell ogg/mp3, then that's a problem
[09:03] <Arafangion> PerhamX: Here, I am quite sure it's illegal, (Australia), but everybody does it.
[09:03] <mnepton> PerhamX: what brand of modem do you have? do you know what chipset it uses?
[09:03] <Arafangion> PerhamX: Specifically, it's called "
[09:03] <Arafangion> PerhamX: "Format Shifting".
[09:03] <eclipse75> well i still was able to view and hear audio earlier today..?
[09:03] <awilcox> kismet_, correct
[09:04] <mnepton> Arafangion: i'll use that same term if i ever decide to become homosexual.
[09:04] <Arafangion> PerhamX: Recently there's been a bill raised, but I'm not sure if it's been accepted, that allows "Format Shifting", which would mean that people can purchase a CD, rip it to cassette for personal use, and then play it on their cassette player in their own damn CAR!
[09:04] <CadeX> I'm so tempted to email microsoft saying "Dear microsoft, Your OS'S suck, fix them. From, David."
[09:04] <PerhamX> NUMBER OF MODEMS FOUND = 1
[09:04] <PerhamX> MODEM #1:
[09:04] <PerhamX>   PCI CONFIGURATION INFORMATION READ:
[09:04] <PerhamX>      VENDOR ID              : 14F1
[09:04] <PerhamX>      DEVICE ID              : 2F30
[09:04] <PerhamX>      SUBVENDOR ID           : 14F1
[09:04] <PerhamX>      SUBDEVICE ID           : 2075
[09:04] <PerhamX>      REVISION ID            : 01
[09:04] <Arafangion> PerhamX: STOP!
[09:04] <PerhamX>   DEDUCED INFORMATION:
[09:04] <PerhamX>      VENDOR NAME            : CONEXANT
[09:04] <PerhamX>      DEVICE NAME            : UNKNOWN
[09:04] <PerhamX>      SUBVENDOR NAME         : ACTIONTEC                   -- HTTP://WWW.ACTIONTEC.COM/
[09:04] <Arafangion> STOP
[09:04] <PerhamX>      MODEM TYPE             : HSF
[09:04] <PerhamX>      WINXP INBUILD SUPPORT  : NO
[09:05] <ianmacgregor> he can't
[09:05] <kismet_> he pasted
[09:05] <seamus7> Hey anyone know where I can find the tray icons for CheckGmail (it's a Perl program) ... they don't seem to be in the usual locations in the Ubuntu file system.
[09:05] <Arafangion> Indeed.
[09:05] <awilcox> CadeX, sign my name too :)
[09:05] <eclipse75> what audio driver does ubuntu use? arts?
[09:05] <Borden> eclipse, check your process tree to see if you have any audio hoggers in the background
[09:05] <ianmacgregor> !paste > PerhamX
[09:05] <Borden> specifically, see if any mplayers crashed
[09:05] <awilcox> Borden, no, it's the plugin thing
[09:05] <Borden> when I can't get audio working in firefox, that's usually the culprit
[09:05] <boink> which plugin?
[09:05] <eclipse75> borden, already checked and closed out of any audio hoggers
[09:05] <CadeX> I should get a whole list of signatures then do it... I'd laugh so hard if there was over 250.
[09:06] <awilcox> Flash
[09:06] <Borden> k - I must have missed that message - sorry :-[
[09:06] <boink> that's a difficult one
[09:06] <mnepton> PerhamX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36091
[09:06] <Borden> any ideas on my Desktop & Trash questions?
[09:06] <peeps> seamus7: mine is in /usr/share/app-install/icons
[09:06] <boink> <= not a gnome expert
[09:06] <awilcox> If flash sound is not working in Ubuntu, run the following commands to setup the ESD environment:
[09:06] <awilcox> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[09:06] <awilcox> ln -s /tmp/.esd-1000 /tmp/.esd
[09:06] <boink> I need to learn more about gnome myself
[09:07] <kismet_> what does this stand for: "ide_intr" ?
[09:07] <awilcox> kismet_, that's your IDE Interrupt
[09:07] <kismet_> interfa.. oh
[09:07] <peeps> seamus7: btw, i just did a file search in gnome for gmail to find it
[09:07] <CadeX> Alright, here goes attempt 3.
[09:07] <seamus7> peeps: all three? I want to make them with a tranparent background but can't find them.
[09:07] <mnepton> Borden: what desktop/trash questiuon?
[09:07] <awilcox> so, eclipse75, try that
[09:07] <PerhamX> mnepton: i have ubuntu64
[09:07] <Borden> mnepton, I was curious whether it was possible to change the Desktop folder to something other than ~/Desktop
[09:07] <seamus7> peeps: yeah I did a search as well and did find some gmail icons but not the ones used by CheckGmail
[09:07] <awilcox> eclipse75: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[09:08] <kyle_> i've had this bad firefox problem for a day now, firefox doesn't run and it inturrupted my update to dapper, "error creating symbolic link `./usr/bin/firefox'"  -- i have a screeenshot if someone wants to help/take a look
[09:08] <PerhamX> mnepton : 64-bit, does it work?
[09:08] <awilcox> eclipse75: ln -s /tmp/.esd-1000 /tmp/.esd
[09:08] <eclipse75> awilcox, done so. hang on
[09:08] <kismet_> awilcox: i'm stumped, because this is a brand new 8X CDR burn, and the DVD+-RW drive has worked fine recently, but it's failing to load the Ubuntu Installer CD
[09:08] <mnepton> Borden: theoretically, sure. but it's not recommended. poke around in gconf-editor
[09:08] <Borden> & I wanted to know if I could get the Trash bin in GNOME to work like the one in Windows
[09:08] <awilcox> kismet_, what's the error
[09:08] <Squeee>  /join #beryl
[09:08] <scanf> mnepton: ah ... didn't have localeconf installed
[09:09] <CadeX> hahahahaha, me lols.
[09:09] <eclipse75> argh. still does not work
[09:09] <kismet_> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[09:09] <CadeX> I got it to work, thanks guys.
[09:09] <Borden> yeah, I'm setting up a computer  for my Mum and so I'm going to try to move her Desktop folder to her home folder
[09:09] <kismet_> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 357294
[09:09] <mnepton> Borden: no. if you delete something, you delete it. there's no magic "OH GOD I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT" in Linux because morons that can't decide whether to keep or trash something usually use Windows. >:)
[09:09] <awilcox> kismet_, bad disc
[09:09] <CadeX> It looks alot better then 4.1 Ubuntu.
[09:09] <peeps> seamus7: woops, sorry, yeah that was just for a gmail-notify that i had installed briefly
[09:09] <wastrel> Borden:  looks like you can set the desktop folder to be the homedir in gnome
[09:09] <Borden> well I'm one of those morons, mnepton :-P
[09:10] <kismet_> awilcox: i now have 3 CDs that give this same error, is it a bad ISO?
[09:10] <mnepton> PerhamX: are you in the Us, or ... ?
[09:10] <Borden> sweet, wastrel!  how?
[09:10] <awilcox> kismet_ maybe
[09:10] <Borden> PerhamX is in Iran
[09:10] <PerhamX> mnepton: iran,tehran
[09:10] <mnepton> PerhamX: ah, i see. i was hoping i could point you to an actual hardware modem on eBay.
[09:10] <awilcox> kismet_ bad drive could be
[09:11] <wastrel> Borden:  gconf-editor   apps > nautilus > preferences > desktop_is_homedir
[09:11] <mnepton> PerhamX: getting a real hardware modem will be the easiest and best solution, really.
[09:11] <awilcox> kismet_ if one three different discs, 90% chance it's the drive
[09:11] <PerhamX> so what is it called?
[09:11] <kismet_> awilcox: drive works fine under Windows, and it eventually got past the disk error, but now I'm in blank screen land
[09:11] <PerhamX> HCF?
[09:11] <awilcox> kismet_, yuck
[09:11] <mnepton> PerhamX: where do you shop online? my Farsi isn;t good, but i'll try looking :)
[09:12] <wastrel> farsi eh
[09:12] <mnepton> wastrel: yes, most Iranians speak Farsi.
[09:12] <PerhamX> pardakht.com
[09:12] <mnepton> PerhamX: mersi
[09:12] <PerhamX> but i'm sure you cant find it
[09:12] <Borden> thanks wastrel - I have to learn how to use that
[09:12] <Borden> I'm obviously missing out on a lot of easter eggs
[09:13] <kyle_> i've had this bad firefox problem for a day now, firefox doesn't run and it inturrupted my update to dapper, "error creating symbolic link `./usr/bin/firefox'"  -- i have a screeenshot if someone wants to help/take a look
[09:13] <bombero> hi friends, im looking for tool to show the size of subdir, "du -hs /DIR" is very nice, but i get to much or to less details, can anybudy help me ?
[09:14] <eclipse75> oh well
[09:15] <PerhamX> tell me the name
[09:15] <PerhamX> i'm gonna find it.
[09:15] <mnepton> PerhamX: yeah, my Farsi has failed. most external serial modems are hardware modems, and should "just work" with Ubuntu. here are some examples - http://www.zoom.com/products/dial_up_external_serial.html
[09:15] <PerhamX> i'm near the biggest hardware market in whole iran!
[09:15] <awilcox> Yeah External modems work well, I personally like Parallel Port modems better though
[09:16] <mnepton> PerhamX: external, serial modem is the best bet. just make sure your PC has a free RS232 serial port.
[09:16] <awilcox> serial = sucky, IMHO
[09:16] <PerhamX> like serial mose port?
[09:16] <Chandan> Hi
[09:16] <PerhamX> mouse*
[09:16] <mnepton> PerhamX: exactly
[09:16] <awilcox> PerhamX, yes like that for a serial modem
[09:16] <awilcox> Hello Chandan.
[09:16] <mnepton> DB9 RS232 serial :)
[09:16] <awilcox> I like DB25 better
[09:16] <Chandan> In ncurses window Iam not able to get the numbers I am typing .. Chracters are printing ..What may be the problem
[09:17] <PerhamX> i have an un attached broadband modem with usb prot
[09:17] <mnepton> awilcox: you don't like *any* of those things. you just like contradicting me. ;)
[09:17] <PerhamX> can i get it to work?
[09:17] <mnepton> PerhamX: maybe.
[09:17] <awilcox> mnepton, not true, personally I have a DB25 modem and like it
[09:17] <mnepton> PerhamX: but ... do you have a broadband connection?
[09:17] <PerhamX> my adsl account will be available afte next week
[09:17] <kyle_> i've had this bad firefox problem for a day now, firefox doesn't run and it inturrupted my update to dapper, "error creating symbolic link `./usr/bin/firefox'"  -- i have a screeenshot if someone wants to help/take a look
[09:17] <Chandan> awilcox, Hi
[09:17] <mnepton> awilcox: see, there you go again. "not true ..." :)
[09:18] <PerhamX> my device vendor havent published drivers for linux
[09:18] <awilcox> mnepton :)
[09:18] <PerhamX> asustek
[09:18] <azureal> when is the best time to start an app like gkrellm... and in which file should i put it?
[09:19] <Borden> I wouldn't hold your breath on that one, Perham :(
[09:19] <CadeX> OMG
[09:19] <PerhamX> no
[09:19] <CadeX> I <3 ubuntu!
[09:19] <PerhamX> you mean i cant get it to work?
[09:19] <mnepton> CadeX: success, eh?
[09:19] <PerhamX> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!
[09:19] <seamus7> peeps: i just received an email from the developer ... it's the eventbox that I want to be transparent as the icons are already transparent. For some reason the CheckGmail icons won't take my panel's transparent/gradient background. Oh well.
[09:19] <PerhamX> :((
[09:19] <CadeX> Yeah with the 6.01 vversion
[09:19] <Borden> welcome to the land of the living, CadeX
[09:20] <mnepton> CadeX: 6.10? Edgy?
[09:20] <Zeenux> ahhh, good ol mIRC :)
[09:20] <kristjin> I am having problems mounting an NTFS volume in ubuntu.
[09:20] <mnepton> Zeenux: blech. use jIRCii. :P
[09:20] <Borden> you'll find your complimentary interview with Nelson Mandela in the Examples folder
[09:20] <Borden> I thought that was precious!
[09:20] <wastrel> bombero:  du -sh ./*
[09:20] <kristjin> It appears to have mounted to the folder specified, but when attempting to open the folder, I get an error message stating that I do not have the necessary permissions to view the files in the folder.
[09:21] <awilcox> kristjin, sudo -s
[09:21] <awilcox> then try and cd to the folder
[09:21] <wastrel> seamus7:  sounds like a prob with the notification area applet
[09:21] <kismet_> okay, hard question here... I copied over my old MBR to a new drive, along with my WinXP partition. Now the GRUB bootloader errors out because the old drive's Ubuntu partitions aren't on the new boot drive...
[09:21] <Borden> well, in case it was causing you guys to lose sleep, I seem to have stopped the Rhythmbox segfault problem
[09:21] <mnepton> kismet_: do you want to use the machine only for Windows?
[09:22] <Zeenux> Ubuntu Glass Soul, by yours truly. -> http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=new&page=0
[09:22] <kismet_> no, i want to dual boot
[09:22] <kismet_> mnepton
[09:22] <PerhamX> so i still have to keep windows!
[09:22] <PerhamX> i've decided to remove it!
[09:22] <mnepton> kismet_: and did you re-create the Ubuntu stuff on the new drive?
[09:22] <THX-1138> alias ub="/nick THX-1138 && /join #ubuntu"
[09:22] <CadeX> mnepton: 6.06.1 is the version im using
[09:22] <THX-1138> sry
[09:22] <kismet_> not yet, trying to install from scratch
[09:22] <kristjin> Mmkay, that works.
[09:22] <Borden> well I'm glad to see that everyone's as excited as I am
[09:23] <CadeX> Im a wee bit past excited, Borden.
[09:23] <kristjin> I mean, at the least, I can get into the folder and see what's supposed to be in it.
[09:23] <kismet_> OMG every fricken optical drive i own is failing on Buffer I/O errors!
[09:23] <mnepton> CadeX: please stop drooling on me.
[09:23] <kristjin> That's encouraging.
[09:23] <Borden> about my rhythmbox segfault problem? why thank you ;)
[09:23] <Borden> yeah, someone get CadeX a towel
[09:23] <kristjin> But still not from within Ubuntu.
[09:23] <PerhamX> guys i should go now. email me everytime you could and tell me about yourself and your country!
[09:23] <awilcox> kismet_ well
[09:23] <CadeX> Yes, please... towel...
[09:24] <PerhamX> perham.x@gmail.com
[09:24] <PerhamX> thanx for your help
[09:24] <kristjin> Only from the terminal.
[09:24] <mnepton> kristjin: where is the drive/partiton mounted? what directory in Linux?
[09:24] <peeps> seamus7: oh, yeah i see now.  you can change the bacground color in the checkgmail preferences
[09:24] <awilcox> ooh here come the spam bots
[09:24] <kristjin> /home/kristjin/Desktop/Music
[09:24] <mnepton> kristjin: what is your user name in Ubuntu?
[09:24] <peeps> seamus7: maybe you could put in a feature request to allow transparent abckground
[09:24] <kristjin> kristjin
[09:25] <kristjin> It's my username in damn near everything
[09:25] <CadeX> Ok, i suppose the AMD 64 version wont work for Intel x86 cores, eh? Planning on using this on my laptop if it pwnz0rs windows.
[09:25] <KenSentMe> Is this channel logged too?
[09:25] <kristjin> For the last twentyfive years
[09:25] <mnepton> kristjin: tell me where "df -h" tells you the NTFS drive/partition is mounted, please?
[09:25] <CadeX> *drool*
[09:26] <CadeX> *Find his desktop paper called, 'I AM T3H LINUX NEWB13!'"
[09:26] <awilcox> Fri Oct 13 03:23:34 EDT 2006
[09:26] <awilcox> ahhh
[09:26] <awilcox> /dev/hda2              22G   22G  119M 100% /windows
[09:26] <POVaddct> awilcox: yeah, friday 13th :)
[09:27] <CadeX> OMGAWD tomorrow is badlawk day
[09:27] <awilcox> Yeah, I know
[09:27] <CadeX> heh
[09:27] <awilcox> anyway
[09:27] <Borden> wow, CadeX has been operational for less than 10 minutes and he's already mastered 1337 :-P
[09:27] <CadeX> Lol.
[09:27] <awilcox> drive            size  used  free  used %  mount point
[09:27] <POVaddct> CadeX: tomorrow? where do you live?
[09:27] <kristjin> Uhmm, that particular one is mounted at /home/kristjin/Desktop/Music
[09:27] <Borden> so CadeX, did the third disk work properly?
[09:27] <CadeX> Australia.. Oh wait, today is bad luck day.. Hold on a minute...
[09:28] <CadeX> But i'm getting good luck, that's not right.
[09:28] <awilcox> kristjin, you have a separate partition for your music?  Cooool
[09:28] <CadeX> Oh well, not complainin' :)
[09:28] <CadeX> I only have one disk.
[09:28] <mnepton> not really. if he had mastered it, he would have said "3`/3  `/4|\/|  73}{  100|\|iXX0|2z  |\|3\/\/813!!11!"
[09:28] <CadeX> One CD drive, one DVD drive.
[09:28] <kristjin> A 400 Gig partition, yes.
[09:28] <Borden> right, Cadex, but I mean the CD
[09:28] <kristjin> Which is full.
[09:28] <awilcox> kristjin, just try mount
[09:29] <mnepton> kristjin: did you mount it yourself?
[09:29] <CadeX> OH
[09:29] <awilcox> kristjin, 400G!?!?
[09:29] <kristjin> Yes.
[09:29] <kristjin> And yes.
[09:29] <CadeX> Third CD... Yes, i got it working.
[09:29] <peeps> congrats
[09:29] <mnepton> kristjin: Ubuntu rarely mounts things on the desktop
[09:29] <Borden> I wonder what was wrong with the second :-/
[09:29] <kristjin> Does it have an aversion to doing so?
[09:29] <CadeX> I burnt it wrong, it just decided to write the ISO instead of the contents of the iso to the disk
[09:29] <awilcox> kristjin, just type "mount"
[09:29] <Borden> stuff like this will keep me up all night
[09:29] <kristjin> I did so.
[09:29] <awilcox> CadeX, I told ya!  :)
[09:29] <mikejonesjonesjo> is there a program which can show me the output of acpi -t on my gnome dekstop?
[09:30] <kristjin> I already did the mount.
[09:30] <awilcox> it should say something like
[09:30] <Borden> ohh, okay, CadeX
[09:30] <kristjin> That's not the problem.
[09:30] <mnepton> kristjin: can you please just run "df -h" in a terminal and tell me the mount point of the partition?
[09:30] <awilcox> /dev/hda2 on /windows type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[09:30] <kismet_> okay okay, disc looks like it's working... so how will I be able to tell GRUB where my WinXP partition is?
[09:30] <kristjin> Here...
[09:30] <Borden> okay, all together on three... One.... Two.... Three... I TOLD YOU SO!
[09:31] <mikejonesjonesjo> anybody?
[09:31] <CadeX> 0mehgawdz0rs, 71/\/\3 73\/\/ (R'/
[09:31] <CadeX> Anyway...*droooool*
[09:32] <OmniD> Is there a way to get all of my Tomboy notes backed up?
[09:32] <awilcox> kristjin, try "mount | grep ntfs"
[09:32] <awilcox> that way you'll see where the ntfs is mounted
[09:32] <kristjin> Did you get that, mnepton?
[09:32] <mnepton> CadeX" |<133|\||\|3xz0|2z 4 u?
[09:32] <ianmacgregor> OmniD: I would think those are kept in ~/.tomboy
[09:32] <Borden> CadeX, if you want a real thrill, once you can get to the repositories "apt-get install celestia"
[09:32] <OmniD> oh I see!
[09:32] <mnepton> kristjin: no, i see nothing
[09:32] <RubyOnFails> Edgy Rocks
[09:33] <blazemonger> hello folks
[09:33] <blazemonger> Ubuntu is great
[09:33] <Borden> Ruby, is Edgy stable enough to use yet?
[09:33] <blazemonger> got my music appz working in it perfectly
[09:33] <kristjin> /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[09:33] <kristjin> /dev/sdb1 on /home/kristjin/Desktop/Music type ntfs (rw)
[09:33] <blazemonger> and the nice gnome eye candy
[09:33] <kristjin> It's in a private window for you.
[09:33] <kristjin> It was too much to paste in here.
[09:33] <mnepton> kristjin: if your nick is not registered, or if you have not identified, you cannot send private messages
[09:33] <kristjin> But there you go.
[09:33] <Arafangion> Borden: Generally, once somethinng is considered stable, it's stated to be stable, rather than merely "beta".
[09:33] <lostboyz> i have a problem with my x server when i reconifigured after installing necessary ati drivers it is no longer able to logout of x and i have a blank screen and have to do a hard shutdown any suggestions?
[09:33] <RubyOnFails> Borden, yeah, but given, it is about 20 days to go, I would wait
[09:33] <blazemonger> anyone else use ubuntu for music production?
[09:34] <Borden> well, yeah, Arafangion...
[09:34] <awilcox> RubyOnFails, you're not related to WillyOnWheels are you?
[09:34] <kristjin> Does that answer your question?
[09:34] <RubyOnFails> awilcox, no, do you know about RubyOnRails ?
[09:34] <ianmacgregor> blazemonger: You checked out rosegarden?
[09:34] <Borden> I specifically said "stable enough to use" meaning that I wouldn't be spending more time writing bug reports than getting stuff done
[09:34] <awilcox> RubyOnFails, no
[09:34] <blazemonger> i use it ianmacgregor
[09:34] <blazemonger> it's nice
[09:34] <ianmacgregor> blazemonger: :)
[09:34] <CadeX> What does that do, Borden?
[09:34] <awilcox> RubyOnFails, I was talking about the Wikipedia vandal
[09:35] <CadeX> I just finally finished instawling it.
[09:35] <blazemonger> it's not bad actually
[09:35] <CadeX> *goes and downloads wine*
[09:35] <blazemonger> i do use tracker programs more though
[09:35] <mnepton> kristjin: got it. here's what you want to do. "sudo chown -R kristjin:users /media/sda1 && sudo chown -R kristjin:kristjin /home/kristjin/Desktop/Music" (no quotes)
[09:35] <lostboyz> i have a problem with my x server when i reconifigured after installing necessary ati drivers it is no longer able to logout of x and i have a blank screen and have to do a hard shutdown any suggestions?
[09:35] <KenSentMe> lostboyz: you could check /var/log/Xorg.log.0 for errors
[09:35] <RubyOnFails> awilcox, it is the ultimate web application platform. very famous. My nick is related with RubyOnRails
[09:35] <Borden> CadeX, celestia is GoogleEarth for the galaxy
[09:35] <blazemonger> if buzztracker was ported to linux i'd buy it
[09:35] <awilcox> RubyOnFails, oh okay
[09:35] <blazemonger> in a second
[09:35] <KenSentMe> lostboyz: and don't repeat your question so fast
[09:35] <lostboyz> interesting
[09:35] <mnepton> kristjin: make both those "krsitjin:users" osrry
[09:35] <mnepton> *sorry
[09:35] <RubyOnFails> lostboyz, what is your resolution ?
[09:35] <lostboyz> KenSentMe yes how do i check for errors
[09:36] <lostboyz> 1280x something
[09:36] <KenSentMe> lostboyz: open the file
[09:36] <RubyOnFails> lostboyz, do you use HP NX series ?
[09:36] <lostboyz> i use hp pavillion
[09:36] <lostboyz> a1314n
[09:36] <awilcox> well
[09:36] <CadeX> I don't use google earth, i have better things to do then to zoom into places of the world and lol at things.
[09:36] <awilcox> night all
[09:36] <MaKaTiGuY> what is the command for showing the version of KDE?
[09:36] <awilcox> CadeX, I use it to drive
[09:36] <CadeX> Gnight.
[09:36] <RubyOnFails> lostboyz, this may be due to fglrx doesn't support high -res
[09:36] <awilcox> CadeX, I mean driving directions
[09:36] <lostboyz> well
[09:36] <RubyOnFails> lostboyz, you should add modelines to your x.org
[09:37] <Borden> well who needs earth when you can fly through the galaxy :-P
[09:37] <CadeX> lol. I don't have wireless broadband :/
[09:37] <lostboyz> well when i start my computer it works
[09:37] <KenSentMe> RubyOnFails: what is considered as hi res?
[09:37] <kristjin> Will that change how those files function under windows?
[09:37] <Zeenux> 300 ppi
[09:37] <RubyOnFails> lostboyz, let me give you a link
[09:37] <lostboyz> but when i try to logout or switch to a virtual terminal i just get a black screen
[09:37] <Zeenux> mostly youll find 72 - 100
[09:37] <mnepton> kristjin: not at all
[09:37] <kristjin> Wowwie.
[09:37] <lostboyz> and pressing ctrl alt f7 doesn't get me back
[09:37] <blazemonger> i'm having trouble downloading stuff through apt right now
[09:37] <blazemonger> maybe the apt sites are bogged down?
[09:37] <kristjin> Now what?
[09:37] <lostboyz> i have modelines in my xorg
[09:38] <lostboyz> i copied them from my old suse xorg.conf file
[09:38] <lostboyz> and still did not work
[09:38] <RubyOnFails> KenSentMe, I am running a desktop with 1680 x 1050. And fglrx have some problems with monitors that high resolution I guess this an HP specific pro
[09:38] <CadeX> I accidently just pressed ctrl+alt+f1, how to i get out of it?
[09:38] <blazemonger> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/anarchism/anarchism_11.1-1_all.deb
[09:38] <RubyOnFails> lostboyz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274739
[09:38] <Borden> CTRL+ALT+F7
[09:38] <KenSentMe> RubyOnFails: i run fglrx 1280x1024 on two desktops, no problems here
[09:38] <POVaddct> CadeX: ctrl-alt-f7
[09:38] <blazemonger> what's that mean?
[09:39] <kristjin> mnepton: what do I do now?
[09:39] <CadeX> Thanks
[09:39] <RubyOnFails> KenSentMe, it is an HP specific thing I believe
[09:39] <KenSentMe> RubyOnFails: ah, ok
[09:39] <Borden> speaking of terminals, I have another question: is it possible to, say, run KDE on Terminal 6 and GNOME on Terminal 7 (essentially run two X servers at the same time)
[09:40] <CadeX> Windows Bitez0rs my butz0rs.
[09:40] <CadeX> I think it bites everyones but in this channel.
[09:40] <kristjin> So that didn't seem to work...
[09:40] <mnepton> kristjin: it should have just fine. ignore GNOME's icons. try looking around that drive.
[09:41] <CadeX> *drool*
[09:41] <blazemonger> wimdows is goo0d if into midi sequencing
[09:41] <kristjin> The response it gives back is that it is a read only file system.
[09:41] <mnepton> kristjin: and be aware, no matter what the permissions are you cannot write to NTFS.
[09:41] <kristjin> Aha.
[09:41] <Borden> yeah, I still haven't mastered midi on linux
[09:41] <blazemonger> bu8t only if u have top of the line gear
[09:41] <mnepton> kristjin: this is why proprietary filesystems suck ;)
[09:41] <Borden> by 'mastered' I, of course, mean get it to work
[09:41] <bombero> hi friends, i'm looking for tool to show the size of SUBDIRS, du ist very nice, but i get to much info 'du -h' or to less 'du -hs'
[09:42] <blazemonger> bordon if i ever master midi in linux ill trash windows
[09:42] <kristjin> Well, it was easier getting the data this way.
[09:42] <wastrel> bombero:  du -sh ./*
[09:42] <wastrel> bombero:  du -sh some-dir/*
[09:42] <kristjin> Believe me, when I get the drive to back it up, it will be formatted to Linux, and then we'll set up the RAID2
[09:42] <THX-1138> kismet Borden - sounds interesting - running irc in a terminal and WoW in X would be nice.
[09:43] <bombero> wastrel, ok and this for every DIR ?
[09:43] <mnepton> kristjin: there are good ext3 drivers for XP, if you want to reformat those drives/partitions with a better filesystem that's free.
[09:43] <bombero> wastrel, to much work,
[09:43] <wastrel> bombero:  that shows every subdir
[09:43] <bombero> wastrel, ok, thanx
[09:43] <kristjin> Well, I do, but I don't want to lose my data.
[09:43] <kristjin> I need another drive, first.
[09:43] <lansing> i got a question how do i change my clock format cus wen it hits 12 it go 00
[09:44] <THX-1138> Borden - would "screen" be what we are looking for?
[09:44] <kristjin> I've got 50k songs here...
[09:44] <wastrel> bombero:  also man du  -   --max-depth=2   etc...
[09:44] <Zeenux> If I wanted to post a link to my Ubuntu Desktop Wallpaper on the Ubuntu forums, which board should I post in? There are so many. :\
[09:44] <Borden> THX-1138: I don't know, maybe
[09:44] <Borden> I thought CTRL+ALTs F1 through F7 were technically called 'terminals'
[09:45] <soulfire41> Hey....is there a channel for Programmers who use Ubuntu?
[09:45] <blazemonger> i cant conect to the apt repositories
[09:45] <blazemonger> anyone having trouble accessing them?
[09:45] <THX-1138> ubotu info roulette. - reaches back into kansas to give the wheel a huge spin. ubotu don't desert me now.
[09:45] <ubotu> Package roulette. does not exist in dapper
[09:45] <THX-1138> !screen
[09:45] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[09:45] <POVaddct> Borden: two X servers are possible. but screen(1) has nothing to do with that.
[09:45] <lostboyz> thanks a lot for the help
[09:45] <lostboyz> i will try it
[09:45] <Borden> okay, now you guys have me confused
[09:45] <POVaddct> THX-1138: X can't run in screen
[09:46] <kristjin> So still when trying to access the folder "Music" on my desktop I get the error message "The folder contents could not be displayed.  You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of 'Music.'"
[09:46] <lansing> ubotu: how do i change my clock format
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how do i change my clock format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <POVaddct> THX-1138: X must run on a linux console, like tty7, tty8, ...
[09:46] <blazemonger> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/doc-linux/doc-linux-html_2005.12-1_all.deb 404 Not Found
[09:46] <blazemonger> wierd
[09:46] <blazemonger> i have accesed the repositories perfectly the whole time until now
[09:47] <Borden> I'm asking whether it's possible to set it up so that C+A F3 would, say, pull up Project Looking Glass, F4 KDE, & F6 GNOME or something
[09:47] <POVaddct> THX-1138: screen is for character (text) based apps only
[09:47] <blazemonger> things down? or being maintained?
[09:47] <lansing> ubotu: clock
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <soulfire41> blaze try to ping that  domain
[09:47] <mnepton> kristjin: sudo chown -R kristjin:users /home/kristjin/Desktop/Music
[09:47] <soulfire41> `ping http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:47] <THX-1138> POVaddct: Hm. - I could run one monitor on one tty and x on tty7?
[09:47] <wastrel> no no no no no
[09:48] <blazemonger> doing it
[09:48] <wastrel> never chown -R
[09:48] <mnepton> wastrel: why, exactly?
[09:48] <POVaddct> THX-1138: no. but you can run one X server on tty7 that talks to both monitors. (multihead)
[09:48] <blazemonger> says unknown host *WTF*!? i just installed kde
[09:48] <soulfire41> lol
[09:48] <soulfire41> hold on
[09:48] <blazemonger> wierd
[09:48] <wastrel> because it breaks shit
[09:49] <soulfire41> blaze
[09:49] <soulfire41> The server is down
[09:49] <mnepton> wastrel: uhhh ... no. not if you do it correctly.
[09:49] <soulfire41> i get that too
[09:49] <blazemonger> soulfire41: :u know when it'l be up?
[09:49] <wastrel> and won't fix the problem
[09:49] <fuoco> hi, i'm trying to watch media streams online with the totem plugin and keep getting: Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[09:49] <soulfire41> no idea
[09:49] <fuoco> what does it mean?
[09:49] <soulfire41> i got the same thing you did
[09:49] <blazemonger> damn was in middle of trying to install xmms
[09:49] <soulfire41> so go into /etc/apt/sources.list and find  it...and put a # as the first thing on that line and then type sudo apt-get update
[09:50] <mnepton> wastrel: i have used chown -R for years and years and it has fixed a lot of problems without breaking things.
[09:50] <wastrel> mnepton:  and a new user has a high probability of irreparably screwing up their system with it.
[09:50] <Borden> POVaddct: but you're saying that it is possible to run a different display manager and X session on each terminal?
[09:50] <THX-1138> POVaddct: Old CRTs are cheap here. I have more monitors working than plugs to get power from.
[09:50] <blazemonger> i wont get the packages im needing htough
[09:50] <mnepton> wastrel: which is why am giving the new user the exact command.
[09:50] <wastrel> and it will never fix a problem with a drive being mounted without user perms.
[09:50] <blazemonger> ill wait until they get servers back up prob goin through maintence or got hacked
[09:50] <Zeenux> Well, I'm just going to link this here, and go to sleep.
[09:50] <Zeenux> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=47152
[09:51] <Zeenux> gnight folks
[09:51] <THX-1138> TC Zeenux
[09:51] <mnepton> wastrel: yes, it will in many cases. change the perms of the mount point recursively and poof.
[09:51] <Arafangion> ...
[09:52] <POVaddct> Borden: yes. of course you must configure the display managers correctly. for example kdm using tty7 and display number :0 and gdm using tty8 and display number :1
[09:52] <Arafangion> What a crap, pointless desktop image!
[09:52] <wastrel> fix their fstab instead
[09:52] <Arafangion> Only 1" FULLY ZOOMED IN!!!
[09:52] <Borden> good to know, POVaddct, thank you
[09:52] <mnepton> wastrel: a lot of it depends on how the drive is specced in fstab. it's easier to tell a user to change the perms of a mount point first before editing fstab.
[09:53] <Borden> now, of course, the real trick will be teaching linux to run different operating systems on each terminal :-P
[09:53] <kristjin> Still the same problem.
[09:53] <Arafangion> Borden: Ahh, that's trivial. ;)
[09:53] <POVaddct> Borden: erm, qemu? ;)
[09:53] <soulfire41> blaze just comment that line out...and itll work
[09:53] <soulfire41> actually
[09:53] <soulfire41> where are you from?
[09:53] <kristjin> Do not have the necessary permissions.
[09:53] <mnepton> kristjin: then you need to edit /etc/fstab so that it mounts the drive/partition with the correct perms
[09:53] <Borden> qemu?  have I missed something?
[09:53] <Arafangion> POVaddct: I was thinking xen, or uml.
[09:53] <kristjin> not sure how to do that.
[09:53] <ianmacgregor> !qemu
[09:53] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[09:54] <soulfire41> blaze?
[09:54] <Arafangion> POVaddct: Emulators are very wasteful.
[09:54] <mnepton> kristjin: google for "ubuntu fstab syntax permissions"
[09:54] <POVaddct> Arafangion: depends on what you want to run as guest
[09:54] <Arafangion> POVaddct: Here, we were merely talking about "other OS's".
[09:54] <Borden> oh, emu... right
[09:54] <wastrel> !mountwindows
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <Flannel> !ntfs
[09:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:54] <fuoco> hi, i'm trying to watch media streams online with the totem plugin and keep getting: Totem could not play 'fd://0'. what does it mean ?
[09:54] <wastrel> thats the one
[09:54] <kristjin> Thank you very much.  I'll do that tomorrow.  For now, it's very late for a work night.  I'm off.  You've been extremely helpful.
[09:55] <Borden> yes, I was flippantly suggesting that win32.dll would kindly occupy TTY4
[09:55] <Borden> which, of course, is impossible
[09:55] <soulfire41> Is there a channel for programming using ubuntu?
[09:55] <Borden> soulfire, there are several
[09:55] <avagant> Aside from all my sound issues, Ubuntu is pretty awesome.
[09:55] <avagant> Hah
[09:55] <ianmacgregor> soulfire41: You probably want a language-specific channel
[09:56] <soulfire41> Borden, what are they called?
[09:56] <randomi> Does anyone know of a php editor that has code highlighting?
[09:56] <wastrel> vim
[09:56] <Arafangion> randomi: There are billions.
[09:57] <Arafangion> randomi: Actually, that's probably an overestimation.
[09:57] <Borden> soulfire41: there are about a half-dozen channels for developers
[09:57] <Arafangion> randomi: More like many thousands.
[09:57] <Borden> randomi - bluefish
[09:57] <Borden> (immediately comes to mind)
[09:57] <randomi> Used vim... didn't really like it
[09:57] <Flannel> soulfire41: #ubuntu-offtopic is a good one, if you want to chat with people about progamming on ubuntu in general, #ubuntu is appropriate for questions regarding... stuff.  and then there are language channels for language specific help.
[09:57] <randomi> I'll give bluefish a try
[09:57] <mnepton> randomi: jEdit is very nice
[09:58] <Borden> mnepton - I've had trouble with jedit
[09:58] <soulfire41> Well I need a channel for C#/mono/monodevelop
[09:58] <Borden> particularly with configuring the plugins
[09:58] <mnepton> randomi: jEdit has syntax highlighting for just about everything you can think of
[09:58] <mnepton> Borden: what kind of trouble?
[09:59] <Borden> mnepton - I tried using jedit as a java ide and I couldn't get it the way I liked it
[09:59] <avagant> Oh downloading videos. Heh
[09:59] <Borden> for starters, it couldn't handle the 1.5 additions
[09:59] <matti> :)
[09:59] <mnepton> Borden: oh, so more of a "i ant different functionality" more than "the existing functionality is broken?"
[09:59] <matti> :)
[09:59] <azureal> hi, where should i put startup programs and commands?
[10:00] <mnepton> Borden: s/ant/want/
[10:00] <Borden> well, mnepton, I believe it was designed to be a simple java IDE
[10:00] <mcu> After an update earlier tonight my system has stopped booting.
[10:00] <ianmacgregor> azureal: System -> Preferences -> Sessions, go to the Startup Programs tab
[10:00] <Borden> as opposed to GEdit written in Java
[10:00] <POVaddct> Arafangion: i create bootable cd images and test boot them in qemu. xen and uml can't help me there.
[10:00] <Arafangion> For Java, you can't go wrong with Eclipse.
[10:00] <azureal> ianmacgregor, er... i'm looking for the file name
[10:01] <mnepton> Borden: no, it was designed as a text editor. the IDE comes from plugin functionality.
[10:01] <azureal> ianmacgregor, like /etc/init.d something or other
[10:01] <Arafangion> POVaddct: Actually, it can.
[10:01] <mcu> Using Edgy Eft, has anyone else experienced this?
[10:01] <ianmacgregor> azureal: ~/.config/autostart ?
[10:01] <Borden> well that would explain why it didn't take kindly to force a 1.5 compiler on it
[10:01] <randomi> Borden - Thanks for the suggestion I like what I see in blufish so far
[10:01] <Arafangion> POVaddct: Assuming, naturally, that the CD's contain an OS, that runs on Xen.
[10:01] <ianmacgregor> azureal: Oh, ok, I thought you meant for gnome
[10:02] <Borden> randomi, bluefish is one of the more popular editors... or at least better advertised
[10:02] <Borden> actually, randomi, if you need simple syntax highlighting, GEdit works just fine
[10:02] <POVaddct> Arafangion: so xen has something like a "bios" that can boot from cd?
[10:02] <Healot> nvu or amaya for visual
[10:02] <mcu> please help
[10:03] <Borden> about Eclipse - I discovered that it's extremely unstable when I changed my desktop theme
[10:03] <randomi> Borden - I had never heard anything of it. I was using GEdit but started looking for a little more funtionality.
[10:03] <Arafangion> POVaddct: Thinking of Xen as a BIOS is infact, a good way to think of how it works.
[10:03] <wastrel>  edgy discussion on #ubuntu+1
[10:04] <wastrel> vim is worth the effort, or gvim for mouse interface
[10:04] <Borden> randomi - in GEdit, go to View -> Highlight Mode -> Scripts
[10:04] <randomi> Borden - I had it set up in GEdit but like I said I was looking for more functionality then GEdit had to offer. Specifically a project manager which I see BlueFish has.
[10:04] <Borden> bluefish is nice because it has some pleasant code completion and templates
[10:04] <azureal> ianmacgregor, i hate gnome =P
[10:05] <Borden> ah, I misunderstood, randomi :-[
[10:05] <ianmacgregor> azureal: ok :)
[10:05] <wastrel> !init
[10:05] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:05] <randomi> Just makes it a lot easier to edit files based on sites :)
[10:06] <shinobi2> how do i format my flash drive?
[10:06] <netstar> Will ubuntu server detect my OSX partition and setup yaboot appropriately?
[10:06] <Borden> well bluefish is designed as a complete web IDE
[10:06] <seshomaru> I have a problem - i just installed xubuntu and when it the Xserver supposed to start the monitor just turns off. I tried to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the rescue mode but got an error saying xserver-xorg is not installed
[10:06] <oxbat> hello
[10:06] <THX-1138> !usbflash
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbflash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <mcu> has anyone seen:  "rc-default process (random pid) terminated with status 127"
[10:06] <oxbat> what is usbflash??
[10:07] <heatxsink> hello all
[10:07] <heatxsink> has anyone matched TwinView with Xinerama?
[10:07] <heatxsink> not matched, combined
[10:07] <randomi> Looks a lot like dreamweaver and that's something that I don't really like. How customizable is the interface on BlueFish?
[10:07] <matti> ;)
[10:07] <remco> hey dames hoe issie
[10:07] <Borden> randomi, it's not dreamweaver since it's not one of those WYSIWYG
[10:08] <remco> weer wakker
[10:08] <Borden> but to answer your question, I don't know
[10:08] <Borden> I haven't really tried to build any projects with it
[10:08] <mnepton> randomi: take a look at jEdit, too. it has nifty plugins web devs like (like opening/saving via (S)FTP)
[10:08] <oxbat> hello,how to deal with it,"can't access the tty"
[10:08] <oxbat> hello,how to deal with it,"can't access the tty"
[10:08] <Borden> seshomaru, try to boot into a terminal (safe mode comes to mind)
[10:09] <randomi> Well Dreamweaver has a code view type. I've semi recently moved over to linux here at the house. Was using Dreamweaver in codeviewer way for a while
[10:09] <seshomaru> Borden, ok
[10:09] <seshomaru> Borden, what then?
[10:09] <oxbat> anyone who can give me some advices,,,"can't access the tty" why that??
[10:09] <mnepton> seshomaru: try "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[10:10] <randomi> mnepton - I'll take a look at it
[10:10] <seshomaru> mnepton, that particular machine doesnt have internet access.............
[10:10] <oxbat> anyone who can give me some advices,,,"can't access the tty" why that??
[10:10] <oxbat> nobody in????
[10:10] <mnepton> randomi: you'll want to install Sun's Java first, set that as the default JRE, and then use the .jar jEdit installer with sudo
[10:10] <Laris> Hi
[10:11] <Borden> mnepton, should seshomaru check the logs for any fatal errors?
[10:11] <Borden> that's my guess as to why the monitor would shut itself off
[10:11] <elfranger> good morning all
[10:11] <Borden> hullo elfranger
[10:11] <CadeX> Gahh, having issues installing wine with the AMD-64 package... The URL is dead :/
[10:11] <oxbat> I'm sorry it's evening here
[10:12] <elfranger> Ok, good night all then... hehe
[10:12] <Borden> CadeX - is that URL dead or your whole internet?
[10:12] <mnepton> seshomaru: did you md5sum the .iso and run a disc check when you first bootted?
[10:12] <mnepton> -t
[10:12] <CadeX> Just the URL.
[10:12] <elfranger> has anyone ever set up a mailserver on an ubuntu server?
[10:12] <oxbat> no
[10:12] <CadeX> I get a 404.
[10:12] <randomi> mnepton - The windows versions and linux versions for jEdit are the same correct? One of my friends uses it on windows and says he likes it. I would guess it is because it's based off of Java but just wanted to make sure
[10:12] <oxbat> no need
[10:12] <seshomaru> mnepton, yes and i installed 5 xubuntus with that disc before all without any probl;ems
[10:12] <Borden> cadex, what are you trying to install and I'll see if I can hit it
[10:12] <Laris> private
[10:13] <CadeX> Wine.
[10:13] <CadeX> Run Windows programs on Ubuntu.
[10:13] <JoseStefan> any known problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[10:13] <mnepton> randomi: jEdit works precisely the same on Windows, OSX, and Linux. so you can use one tool when forced to use any OS. which is very handy.
[10:13] <Borden> k,  just a sec CadeX
[10:13] <CadeX> Thanks, using AMD64 version of ubuntu.
[10:13] <blazemonger> i love cross platform
[10:14] <Borden> ohhh, I'm still in the ia32 stoneage
[10:14] <blazemonger> i told a windows friend of mine that the future is cross platform
[10:14] <Borden> well, I'll see if I can get the 32-bit version
[10:14] <oxbat> what's the meaning of crossplatform
[10:14] <blazemonger> runs on everythig
[10:14] <oxbat> oh
[10:15] <Borden> cadex, I'm able to get the 32-bit version of wine to download...
[10:15] <seshomaru> mnepton, what should i do if i boot into safe mode?
[10:15] <Borden> so now we just need to figure out where they're hiding the 64-bit version
[10:16] <mnepton> seshomaru: fsck -yf for one
[10:16] <mnepton> seshomaru: and if this is a clean install, tyr installing again?
[10:16] <leks> sk8videos
[10:16] <mnepton> seshomaru: how much RAM does the machine have?
[10:16] <seshomaru> mnepton, this is the second install (128MB)
[10:17] <seshomaru> mnepton, first install with same results
[10:17] <mnepton> seshomaru: did the first install fail the same way?
[10:17] <seshomaru> mnepton, yes
[10:17] <AeonPax> where can i download VLC .deb?
[10:17] <wastrel> what's vlc
[10:17] <mnepton> seshomaru: maybe the CD finally gave up the ghost? try a new burn, or download again?
[10:18] <mnepton> wastrel: VideoLAN Client
[10:18] <mnepton> AeonPax: sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:18] <AeonPax> the VLC site uses the sudo apt
[10:18] <wastrel> vlc is in universe
[10:18] <AeonPax> i have no internet at home
[10:18] <seshomaru> mnepton,  i will try a different Cd , should i try fsck -yf ?
[10:18] <mnepton> seshomaru: can't hurt. and if that magically works, it could save time and a blank CD.
[10:19] <Borden> AeonPax, go back to the packages website and do a search for vlc
[10:19] <seshomaru> mnepton, what will fsck -yf show me?
[10:19] <seshomaru> file system check....?
[10:19] <AeonPax> okei! :)
[10:20] <wastrel> don't forget the dependencies
[10:20] <skywalker> hello
[10:20] <seshomaru> mnepton,  ok , i'm off to fsck -yf , thanks for help.....................
[10:20] <randomi> What are the main differences between aptitude and apt-get?
[10:21] <gnomer__> Sigh, hello.
[10:21] <wastrel> aptitude is smarter about uninstalling things
[10:21] <randomi> It seems as though everyone has their preverences but just wondering the differences
[10:21] <wastrel> i use apt-get out of habit
[10:21] <gnomer__> I have a bit of an issue with my wireless (DHCP problem), anyone think they're able to help?
[10:22] <wastrel> !aptitude
[10:22] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[10:22] <Borden> sweet, no more dangling dependencies - I like it
[10:22] <AeonPax> i should download the "i386" if i'm using AMD right?
[10:22] <tony|afk> Ae: right
[10:23] <gnomer__> I can connect fine if I just configure my card with Administration->Networking, but if I change my MAC Address (ifconfig hw ether)..Then try..It doesn't connect.
[10:23] <Borden> AeonPax - you should be okay, even if you're running a 64-bit system
[10:23] <AeonPax> :)
[10:23] <randomi> I'm pretty new to the Debian world. We're using CentOS at work on the servers, so I'm still trying to get used to the differences.
[10:23] <CadeX> "you do not have permissions to write to this folder"... i'm logged into my admin account?
[10:24] <Borden> CadeX, what are you doing?
[10:24] <gnomer__> CadeX, use sudo.
[10:24] <CadeX> Following instructions to install a program.
[10:24] <gnomer__> sudo <command here>
[10:24] <Borden> oh, yeah, use sudo
[10:24] <CadeX> What.. the heck is sudo?
[10:24] <Borden> !sudo
[10:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:25] <gnomer__> Borden, know anything about networking in ubuntu?
[10:25] <Borden> precious little, gnomer
[10:25] <CadeX> is that the ctrl+alt+f1 thing?
[10:25] <mnepton> randomi: i came to Canonical with mostly RH derivative experience. the transition is not that bad.
[10:25] <gnomer__> Cadex, no, just do "sudo yourcommandhere"
[10:25] <wastrel> ifconfig eh
[10:25] <Borden> no, basically sudo lets you run as root without switching users
[10:25] <gnomer__> wastrel, ifconfig doesn't bother me.
[10:25] <wastrel> ifconfig doesn't play well with dhcp - you have to run dhclient manually if you're using ifconfig to bring up the interface
[10:25] <gnomer__> It just hates me or something.
[10:26] <Borden> think of it like that window that would sometimes pop up in Windows if you were on a restricted account and tried to install something like MS Office
[10:26] <wastrel> or script it of course
[10:26] <gnomer__> wastrel, I plug in my card and do "ifconfig ath0 up", and then I do the "dhclient ath0"
[10:26] <AeonPax> is there a preinstalled firewall on ubuntu 6.06?
[10:26] <gnomer__> I get the "No DHCPOFFERS" error.
[10:26] <Arafangion> AeonPax: Yes.
[10:26] <wastrel> ah
[10:27] <vook> eh, I'm wondering why dhclient stays alive after I run 'dhclient IFACE'
[10:27] <randomi> AeonPax: Yes Ubuntu comes with IPtables
[10:27] <AeonPax> where can i find it Arafangion?
[10:27] <AeonPax> oh..  iptables
[10:27] <mnepton> gnomer__: is this to a WPA device?
[10:27] <wastrel> !firestartedr
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firestartedr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <wastrel> !firestarter
[10:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[10:27] <AeonPax> i have to use the terminal for that right?
[10:27] <gnomer__> mnepton, it has no encryption..I turned it off.
[10:27] <CadeX> Will the 32bit version of Wine run on the AMD64 bit version of ubuntu?
[10:27] <mnepton> gnomer__: tried network-manager-gnome?
[10:27] <Borden> AeonPax, go to Applications -> Internet -> Firestarter
[10:28] <gnomer__> mnepton, yep, works fine.
[10:28] <randomi> AeonPax: You can use that or you can use firestarter
[10:28] <gnomer__> Unless I change my mac address, which is the problem.
[10:28] <mnepton> gnomer__: so then use that?
[10:28] <randomi> Borden: Is firestarter supposed to install by default?
[10:28] <vook> okay, so can anyone tell me why I have to do this : " dhclient eth1 && killall dhclient" in order for my network to stay active?
[10:28] <elfranger> 2back
[10:28] <gnomer__> I'd like to change my MAC Address, and then connect to the router.
[10:28] <Borden> I think so, randomi
[10:28] <mnepton> gnomer__: MAC addresses can be spoofed, but not actually changed.
[10:28] <randomi> Hmm it didn't for me. I had to add it myself
[10:28] <shinobi2> how do i change mc's background to black and still support color?
[10:28] <gnomer__> mnepton, thats what I mean
[10:29] <mnepton> gnomer__: why spoof it?
[10:29] <Borden> vook, are you on PPPoE?
[10:29] <gnomer__> mnepton, nothing better to do.
[10:29] <shinobi2> how do i configure grub to support 1200x800 resolution during boot time?
[10:29] <vook> Borden, no
[10:29] <randomi> Either way, AeonPax, if it's not there sudo aptitude install firestarter
[10:29] <Borden> then I don't know :-(
[10:29] <mnepton> gnomer__: HA! touche.
[10:29] <vook> Borden, no, yes,
[10:29] <gnomer__> mnepton, :D
[10:29] <AeonPax> ok
[10:29] <gnomer__> mnepton, so, you know the fix?
[10:29] <randomi> Then it will be under your internet folder
[10:29] <mnepton> gnomer__: well, that's cool. now i can answer the querstion with "Don't Do That(tm)" >;)
[10:30] <randomi> You can use that as a GUI for iptables
[10:30] <vook> Borden, well, either way, *I* am not, but I am connected to a PPPoE router, it's a public router
[10:30] <gnomer__> mnepton, well, seeing as how it's my home router I don't see how I could getin trouble.
[10:30] <mnepton> gnomer__: nope, don't know it for sure. i keep the MAC addresses God gave me. because to mess with His plan makes the baby Jesus sad.
[10:30] <mnepton> (or, you know ... something)
[10:30] <randomi> mnepton: =D
[10:30] <gnomer__> "For sure"
[10:30] <THX-1138> vook lol mepton
[10:30] <gnomer__> I'm open to suggestions, even if they're not right.
[10:31] <Borden> vook, I have a problem with my dhcp in that it'll randomly rewrite my DNS servers to a loopback address
[10:31] <timalot> funny
[10:31] <gnomer__> Just, as long as they're fairly close.
[10:31] <Borden> I haven't decided whether it's an ISP problem or a Linux problem
[10:31] <Borden> I'm guessing Linux
[10:32] <gnomer__> mnepton, the main part (If it were fixed)
[10:32] <vook> Borden, yep.  I as well.  I first changed the perms on /sbin/resolvconf to 644, which helped, but then I lost my route.  So, then I realized that dhclient was still running in the background, over and over and over.
[10:32] <gnomer__> Is that if I don't use the network-manager-gnome, then the dhclient command still doesn't work
[10:32] <gnomer__> Spoofed MAC or not
[10:32] <THX-1138> Borden - similar dhcp issues with ralink wireless. - turn off dhcp and bootup goes smoothly.
[10:32] <wastrel> what about ifup ath0
[10:33] <gnomer__> wastrel, same thing happens.
[10:33] <mnepton> gnomer__: it sounds like dhclient is trying to get a lease before the interface is fully brought up
[10:33] <Borden> THX-1138, yeah, but doesn't turning off DHCP mean that I'll have to provide my own DNS servers?
[10:33] <Borden> and what about my IP address, which is assigned randomly?
[10:33] <gnomer__> mnepton, so how long do I have to wait after the "ifconfig ath0 up"?
[10:33] <gnomer__> XD
[10:33] <shinobi2> how do i check what services are running? is apache on?
[10:33] <AeonPax> hmm.. vlc is confusing me.. i'm just going in circles when i try to download 1.. and there's too many links :(
[10:33] <randomi> I'm going to be putting Ubuntu on my desktop soon and it has three drives in it right now. I was going to use LVM to join two of the drives and mount it in home but I don't want to loose the data if anything happens to the partition information. Should I just bite the bullet and mount them both to different locations?
[10:34] <THX-1138> Borden - I don't know. - at least on the local lan i can assign addresses. - no idea about ppoe
[10:34] <vook> shouldn't dhclient die after it completes?  if I just run 'dhclient eth1' at the shell, and every thing completes successfully, I can still find dhclient running as a process with ps aux | grep dhclient.
[10:34] <mnepton> gnomer__: you can sepcify timeouts in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:34] <timalot> shinobi2: u mean interrnet services?
[10:34] <Borden> yeah, I think I'm SOL on this one, THX
[10:35] <gnomer__> mnepton, sigh, fair enough
[10:35] <Borden> I haven't had the time or the patience yet to trace the problem and file a proper bug report
[10:35] <shinobi2> timalot: any services
[10:35] <mnepton> gnomer__: hey, *you're* the one that wnats to play around with something that already works! :P
[10:35] <wastrel> wifi is goofy
[10:35] <gnomer__> mnepton, I'm a programmer, it's my nature to fix things that aren't broken
[10:35] <gnomer__> :/
[10:35] <wastrel> i don't understand it
[10:35] <wastrel> also usb
[10:36] <mnepton> gnomer__: i know that life. and my girlfriend *still* won;t have a boob job. even though it would really optimize our sex life. :/
[10:36] <Borden> shinobi2 - System -> System Monitor
[10:36] <Borden> works just like Task Manager in Windows
[10:36] <shinobi2> Borden: command line broo-da
[10:37] <Borden> okay, how about pstree
[10:37] <timalot> shinobi2: yeah make sure u are looking at all processes notjust "my processes"
[10:37] <timalot> ps -auxw  will give u all processes
[10:37] <gnomer__> mnepton, Roffle.
[10:37] <mnepton> shinobi2: "ps aux" and "top"
[10:37] <THX-1138> Font corruption in World of Warcraft. Any hints?  (Is WoW addictive?)
[10:38] <gnomer__> Anyway, I'm going to go and try to make me laptop work.
[10:38] <avagant> Grrrr.
[10:38] <gnomer__> Be back if it doesn't to harass you mnepton
[10:38] <avagant> Is anyone else having trouble getting soulseek to actually work?
[10:38] <wastrel> wow is addictive
[10:38] <mnepton> oh joy.
[10:38] <mnepton> ;)
[10:38] <gnomer__> You'll love it.
[10:38] <gnomer__> XD
[10:38] <Borden> night folks - it's 20 to 5 here and I need some rest...
[10:38] <mnepton> beat me, daddy.
[10:38] <Borden> talk to you folkel later
[10:39] <THX-1138> "Lathrop Wells lvl 60 priest khaz'Goroth.
[10:39] <avagant> I wish I had money to play wow, or any online game for that matter.
[10:39] <wastrel> you running wow under wine?
[10:39] <wastrel> yeah i stopped paying for my wow :] 
[10:39] <wastrel> waste of time and it costs money?  i can play nethack for free :] 
[10:39] <THX-1138> Cedega (ease of setup - grabbing patches is no fun
[10:39] <timalot> isnt all just about getting the lastest cool item or gold++ or level++
[10:40] <randomi> I've never paid for wow. Been playing on hacked servers for a while now
[10:40] <mnepton> oh man, Nethack. i don't think i've played that since i did the BeOS port years ago.
[10:40] <wastrel> telnet nethack.alt.org
[10:40] <preaction> i still do not understand nethack
[10:40] <THX-1138> random1 - sounds like fun. - took a look at the list. none were very full.
[10:40] <shinobi2> thx, mnepton, timalot, borden
[10:41] <timalot> shinobi2: np
[10:41] <wastrel> preaction:  it's a nice step up from rogue
[10:41] <preaction> wastrel, i mean, i get into dungeons and i get one or two rooms that i can't get out of :(
[10:41] <CadeX> I don't understand this sudo crap... but i really need full systems permission :/
[10:41] <randomi> THX-1138: I like servers with very few people online. Makes them faster for me :-P
[10:42] <aedes> CadeX: try: sudo bash -- for a root shell
[10:42] <preaction> CadeX, sudo = super-user do. sudo -s gives you a root shell
[10:42] <CadeX> Where do i type that in?!
[10:42] <randomi> Besides I play GuildWars when I want to play with other people
[10:42] <timalot> !sudo
[10:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:43] <Windwalker> can somebody help on this matter: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/65836
[10:43] <xorllu> how can i compile pgAdmin??? => configure: error: could not find a suitable C++ compiler to build pgAdmin
[10:44] <THX-1138> randomi:Do any of those servers have the Game Master island?(last WoW - off-topic query)
[10:44] <wastrel> heh good question :] 
[10:44] <randomi> THX-1138: none that I have been on have.
[10:44] <randomi> I haven't been on many
[10:44] <timalot> Windwalker: have u checked any module parameters for the driver module? ... modinfo <module name>
[10:45] <randomi> So I'm probably not the best source on info for that
[10:45] <aedes> does anyone know where to find the kernel config for a particular kernel of ubuntu?
[10:45] <DrSpin> DAPPER: Gnome takes FOREVER (3-5 minutes) to start -- tried 386,686,686-SMP kernels and it's faster with SMP (hyperthreading) :: .xsession-errors contains "Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1" -- google doesn't seem to turn up a logical solution -- tried dpkg-reconfigure gconf2 as well -- any ideas?
[10:45] <xorllu> who know about this error??? => configure: error: could not find a suitable C++ compiler to build pgAdmin
[10:45] <avagant> I set up Wine before, and I couldn't get anything to work.
[10:45] <avagant> So I gave up on it, after having it like 3 hours.
[10:45] <wastrel> xorllu:  you need to install build-essential
[10:45] <s-toned> How do I get a movie out of several jpg files? images2mpg (hence mjpegtools too) gives an error.
 I have not tried it. Can you advise a little more as I am not i linux now
[10:46] <sugoruyo> hi all!
[10:46] <xorllu> thx
[10:46] <randomi> sugoruyo: hey
[10:46] <timalot> Windwalker: ill try it hold on
[10:46] <avagant> I just found out never convert a flv into a mpeg especially if you don't have disk space.
[10:46] <aedes> xorllu: look at the config.log
[10:46] <YoG> hi, can someone help me setting the tv out?
[10:46] <avagant> 3gb for a 23 minute show? No thanks.
[10:47] <THX-1138> avagent - similar troubles here. notably black screens. - Cedega worked and just happened to be easier to use.
[10:47] <sugoruyo> i have a question you guys have pro/ly seen far too many times
[10:47] <aedes> YoG: I'm in the same boat
[10:47] <avagant> My problem is, I did everything the "Windows way" and still couldn't get my favorite apps to open.
[10:47] <timalot> guess he couldnt wait
[10:47] <sugoruyo> what can i do to run ubuntu on my P965 machine?
[10:47] <avagant> I downloaded soulseek and had no luck, and then aim.
[10:47] <avagant> I need more gb's.
[10:47] <randomi> avagant: try cedega
[10:48] <YoG> aedes: and do you have any insights? what graphic card do you use?
[10:48] <randomi> You'll probably have better luck with that
[10:48] <avagant> !cedega
[10:48] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[10:48] <tristan_> hello there
[10:48] <avagant> Maybe i could play RO on that.
[10:48] <xavier> hi every1
[10:48] <xavier> need some help on installing a PPPOE client
[10:48] <aedes> YoG: I'm using GMA945, and have just started my search for the answer
[10:48] <xavier> i found a kpppoe client on google ... but i dont know how o install tar files :( anyone?
[10:48] <avagant> It's not the repositories is it.
[10:49] <avagant> "in"
[10:49] <tristan_> I have a question about tv in Linux. I can watch TV using my TV USB key in kaffeine but I'd like to use it with mplayer. How do I create the file channels.conf, where do I have to put it. Is it possible to create channels.conf from the file kaffeine uses?
[10:49] <THX-1138> avagent - It is worth a try. - it's free to try or compile from CVS(mixed results here.) or $5 a month.
[10:49] <wastrel> xavier:  rp-pppoe
[10:49] <markeib> should i, or should i not upgrade to edgy?
[10:49] <YoG> aedes: please let me know if you have any success...
[10:49] <avagant> 5 dollars a month=me poor.
[10:50] <xavier> wastrel: i'm using KDE btw .. i dont know how to install tar files
[10:50] <avagant> I don't have enough money to maintain this crappy computer.
[10:50] <avagant> You can watch TV on linux? HOLY CRAP
[10:50] <randomi> markeib: I wouldn't do it just yet. Not on production at least.
[10:50] <avagant> I just found out how to "get" youtube vids.
[10:50] <avagant> :D
[10:50] <markeib> When will it be released randomi?
[10:50] <randomi> If you want to test it go ahead but not to run as the only os
[10:50] <tristan_> avagant, yes if you have a tv card or a tv usb key
[10:50] <s-toned> animate (from imagemagick) animates, but doesn't give me a file
[10:50] <timalot> avagant: what do u mean?
[10:50] <avagant> Oh.
[10:51] <avagant> timalot: With what?
[10:51] <timalot> avagant: "get" youtube videos?
[10:51] <TheLance> hey whats up
[10:51] <avagant> Just that.
[10:51] <timalot> avagant: ok
[10:51] <avagant> www.keepvids.com
[10:51] <avagant> ;D
[10:52] <Buglouse> i've downloaded a binary... NoIp (http://www.no-ip.com/downloads.php?page=linux).  And I don't know how to install or use binaries
[10:52] <aedes> YoG: I've seen a forum post saying that all that is needed is a dual monitor setup in the X config
[10:52] <TheLance> does anyone know where the splash screens are located?
[10:52] <randomi> markeib: ubuntu wiki says october 26
[10:52] <TheLance> i want to change my splash startup screen
[10:52] <THX-1138> tristan - who makes it? what model is it? what chip is inside?
[10:52] <oxbat> theme
[10:52] <tristan_> avagant, there are also plug-ins for mozilla that can allow you to direct download the vids
[10:52] <markeib> oh so it's not worth it ^^
[10:52] <avagant> tristan_: I couldn't find them, and then the one I did find I read didn't work anymore.
[10:52] <YoG> aedes: I want only TV-out, I don't have a monitor on that computer, just the tv... can you give me the link to that thread?
[10:53] <THX-1138> internal tv cards give poor reception
[10:53] <avagant> tristan_: Something about Youtube changing the site or something.
[10:53] <Laris> Hello
[10:53] <avagant> I shouldn't be allowed to know these things.
[10:53] <randomi> markieb: It's advised not to switch yet. If you want to dual boot and test edgy that's good, but not to switch over yet. Not until a final is released at least
[10:53] <avagant> I just spent the better part of 2 hours reliving my childhood.
[10:53] <YoG> aedes: I'm looking now on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23628  (I have an old MX 200)
[10:53] <tristan_> THX-1138, it's a Liteon. It works perfectly with kaffeine, I just want to use iot with mplayer also mainly to record directly in .avi
[10:54] <avagant> Cept when I try to convert those flv files into anything else I either get an error or a file waaaaaaaayyy too big.
[10:54] <THX-1138> tristan - Awesome!    googling the newegg site now.
[10:54] <Laris> you tell me ;)
[10:54] <avagant> But there are codecs for that, and that makes me happy so alas.
[10:55] <tristan_> avagant, look for videodownloader for mozilla and you'll be able to download youtube, google video....
[10:55] <xorllu> who knnow, where is postgresql dir in Ubuntu dapper (i have installed postgresql 8.1.4)??? => configure: error: Could not find your PostgreSQL installation in /usr/lib/postgresql
[10:55] <avagant> Google video.
[10:55] <aedes> YoG: check your private messages
[10:55] <tristan_> THX-1138, ???? I don't understand
[10:55] <randomi> markieb: Keep in mind that Dapper will still be supported for quite a while so there should be no problems right now.
[10:55] <avagant> I don't know how I feel about google video.
[10:55] <timalot> xorllu: hold i think ive got it installed....
[10:55] <THX-1138> tristan - Is there a good tv schedule online?
[10:56] <tristan_> avagant, anyway you can download embedded flv vids with that plug-in
[10:56] <avagant> Hmms.
[10:56] <avagant> I wwent plugin crazy already, but what's one more?
[10:56] <avagant> swiftfox > all
[10:56] <THX-1138> tristan please don't distract me i am trying to place an order on newegg.com - lol
[10:57] <tristan_> THX-1138, I thought you were willing to help me ;)
[10:57] <YoG> aedes: Sorry, I'm a bit new to IRC, I don't know how to see the private messages... :(
[10:57] <aedes> YoG: what client are you using?
[10:57] <CadeX> Is there even a friggen way to be able to have all account rights without having to use the annoying console text screen?
[10:57] <timalot> xorllu: ive got postrgres installed on a debian machine (should be the same as ubuntu) ... it puts its db files in /var/lib/postgres
[10:58] <YoG> aedes: XChat
[10:58] <tristan_> So nobody watch tv on Linux?
[10:58] <THX-1138> tried a couple of internal tuners one from ati and another from a no name taiwanese company they both were pretty bad. - interference from the other pci cards
[10:58] <aedes> YoG: there should be tabs at the bottom, iirc (its beena while since I used xchat)
[10:58] <aedes> one of the tabs should have my nick
[10:58] <avagant> Ok I got it tristan_ haha.
[10:58] <sugoruyo> no one knows about P965 chipsets?
[10:59] <tristan_> THX-1138, sorry but I'm French so.... I don't think my TV schedule would help you....
[10:59] <aedes> tristan_: I have a tvtuner on a box and use dot watch tv
[10:59] <THX-1138> tristan - lol
[10:59] <DrSpin> anyone?
[10:59] <tristan_> aedes, I want to record directly to .avi that's why I want to use mplayer
[10:59] <CadeX> Is there a way to have all permissions in the graphical version so i don't have to use the annoying text console?
[11:00] <tristan_> DrSpin, no, nobody here
[11:00] <Windwalker78> can somebody help pls:     https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/65836
[11:00] <DrSpin> tristan_: LOl
[11:00] <timalot> !gksudo
[11:00] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[11:00] <aedes> tristan_: ok ... I didn't realize there was a question involved here (what is your question again?)
[11:00] <CadeX> thankyou..
[11:00] <riton75> !fr
[11:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:00] <tristan_> aedes, I can watch TV using my TV USB key in kaffeine but I'd like to use it with mplayer. How do I create the file channels.conf, where do I have to put it. Is it possible to create channels.conf from the file kaffeine uses?
[11:00] <xavier> wastrel: umm .. i downloaded rp pppoe .. now how do i install a tar.gz file???
[11:01] <YoG> aedes: sorry no tab.. :(, I'll try to start a private session with you...
[11:01] <CadeX> "-bash: !gksudo: event not found" ... i'm a serious linux n00b.
[11:02] <wastrel> xavier:  tar xzvf file.tar.gz  then follow the README or INSTALL instruction
[11:02] <CadeX> waiiit
[11:02] <Chousuke> CadeX: without the !
[11:02] <CadeX> never mind
[11:02] <aedes> tristan_: I didn't know that mplayer used a channels.conf (I used tvtime to watch tv)
[11:02] <CadeX> yeah
[11:02] <avagant> I gotta go to bed. Haha.
[11:02] <aedes> I thought you did something like mplayer tv://
[11:02] <guijo> hi.. can anybody help me?
[11:02] <avagant> mplayer is pretty rad, despite I don't know any of the commands for it so I get a pretty plain box.
[11:03] <wastrel> <3 mplayer
[11:03] <AJ--> got a big problem here
[11:03] <aedes> YoG: I got your priv msg did you get my reply?
[11:03] <AJ--> i just installed my ubuntu
[11:03] <tristan_> aedes, right you can do this but you need a channels.conf file which tell the frequency and so on
[11:03] <avagant> I wish you didn't have to command line it.
[11:03] <guijo> was wondering how do i install an engine at ubuntu?
[11:03] <YoG> aedes: nope
[11:03] <AJ--> but i can make my mouse work
[11:03] <Flannel> guijo: what sort of engine?
[11:03] <avagant> I wish I could clickity away on it, with clickity goodness.
[11:03] <jeanjean> AJ, what mouse do you have ?
[11:03] <avagant> God my movie is downloading faster then this, WTF.
[11:03] <AJ--> optical mouse
[11:03] <wastrel> engine = kernel i guess
[11:03] <aedes> tristan_: hmm, have you checked out tvtime?
[11:04] <jeanjean> AJ--, usb or ps2
[11:04] <CadeX> "(gksudo:6040): GtK-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[11:04] <AJ--> ps2
[11:04] <Flannel> CadeX: you need to do it in a terminal inside of gnome, not a tty
[11:04] <CadeX> Okay.
[11:04] <aedes> and I would suspect that mplayer would have an option for changing the channels
[11:04] <AJ--> is there any shortcut keys
[11:04] <AJ--> that i can go to the control panel
[11:04] <zool2005> Morning all,
[11:04] <AJ--> so that i can configure my mouse
[11:05] <guijo> anything.. cedega as looking for one when i tried to install it.
[11:05] <aedes> YoG: hmm, weird, well I'll just post it here (I was trying to cut out all the noise)
[11:05] <avagant> mplayer is cool cause it isn't this huge contraption. You just point to your movie file and bam.
[11:05] <avagant> I'm getting more and more sold every day.
[11:05] <aedes> YoG: http://forum.notebookreview.com/archive/index.php?t-8569.html - look a couple posts down
[11:05] <sugoruyo> anyone?
[11:05] <YoG> aedes: ok
[11:05] <Flannel> !cegeda
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cegeda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <jeanjean> AJ--, what's manufacture and type of the mouse
[11:05] <zool2005> does anyone know if a Western Digital "My Book" works with Ubuntu? Here's the link : http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=221&language=en
[11:05] <sugoruyo> come on people not one of you has a p965 board?
[11:05] <Flannel> !cedega
[11:05] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:05] <Flannel> guijo: read that page
[11:05] <CadeX> "Missing command to run."
[11:06] <AJ--> generic mouse
[11:06] <guijo> !cedega
[11:06] <AJ--> its a plug and play mouse
[11:06] <Flannel> CadeX: "gksudo [whatever command youre running] "
[11:06] <guijo> how do i go there?
[11:06] <Flannel> guijo: a web browser
[11:06] <kyle_> my update to dapper got closed because when i came to a question to keep change or display the differences in a file i chose display the differences.. is there a way i can continue or restart the update through terminal
[11:06] <CadeX> Arrrgh, why can't i just simply edit a file like i need to?
[11:06] <timalot> CadeX: what is it you want to do?
[11:06] <Buglouse> i've downloaded a binary... NoIp (http://www.no-ip.com/downloads.php?page=linux).  And I don't know how to install or use binaries
[11:06] <guijo> okies.. i a linux newbie..
[11:06] <Flannel> guijo: the link ubotu said
[11:06] <THX-1138> right click open  in broweser
[11:07] <timalot> CadeX: gksudo gedit /name/of/file/i/want/to/edit
[11:07] <bowman> heya. I'm facing problems with a Shuttle XPC -- fan control is not working, any time the CPU load goes up, the fan frequency goes up as well - anyone know what to do about this?
[11:08] <YoG> aedes: It looks that in the link I have they explain how to do that step-by-step (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23628)
[11:08] <THX-1138> !fan
[11:08] <ubotu> fan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html
[11:08] <THX-1138> doh!
[11:08] <jeanjean> AJ--, open terminal, type sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[11:08] <CadeX> Ahh, thanks.
[11:08] <THX-1138> !lm-sensors
[11:08] <bowman> !apm
[11:08] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <mnepton> AJ--: is the BIOS setup to expect and use a PS/2 pointing device?
[11:09] <aedes> YoG: yeah, but that doesn't work for me cause its only nvidia cards
[11:09] <YoG> aedes: right
[11:09] <aedes> YoG: your's is nvidia?
[11:10] <YoG> aedes: yup, an old MX 200 (geforce 2)
[11:10] <jeanjean> AJ--, then type this in rc.local 'modprobe -r psmouse' and this 'modprobe psmouse proto=imps'
[11:10] <kyle_> sudo dpkg --configure -a <-nm
[11:10] <jeanjean> AJ--, then restart
[11:10] <aedes> YoG: and you couldn't get it to work with those instructions?
[11:11] <kyle_> now that i have that, anyone know what to do with the gdm.conf
[11:11] <YoG> aedes: I'm just statring... didn't try yet...
[11:11] <zool2005> Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced external HDD drive (not necessarily portable) that is compatible with Ubuntu please?
[11:12] <kyle_> anyone know what to do with the gdm.conf??????
[11:12] <njan> zool2005, I've never encountered a USB hard drive that didn't work in ubuntu.
[11:12] <kyle_> during the upgrade to dapper
[11:12] <njan> zool2005, they're pretty much a sure bet.
[11:12] <bowman> zool2005: any sort of USB drive should do the trick
[11:12] <timalot> kyle_: system->administration->login window
[11:13] <jeanjean> zool2005, my ICYBOX works fine under ubuntu
[11:13] <kyle_> what why
[11:13] <mikemiezter> where do i get new repositories?
[11:13] <timalot> kyle_: thats the gui to edit gdm.conf
[11:13] <zool2005> bowman: I'd particularly like a Western Digital "My Book" but the site talks about something being installed on first connection
[11:13] <Flannel> !tell mikemiezter about repositories
[11:14] <bowman> zool2005: in that case you'd probably have to ask them if they support linux :-)
[11:14] <mikemiezter> thanx
[11:14] <zool2005> bowman: ok, thanks
[11:14] <kyle_> timalot: is there any reason to keep the current gdm rather than replacing it with the one dapper sends with the upgradE?
[11:15] <timalot> kyle_: ahh ok... no unless u have edited it.... its probably just best to go with the version it wants to give u
[11:16] <DrSpin> DAPPER: Gnome takes FOREVER (3-5 minutes) to start -- tried 386,686,686-SMP kernels and it's faster with SMP (hyperthreading) :: .xsession-errors contains "Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1" -- google doesn't seem to turn up a logical solution -- tried dpkg-reconfigure gconf2 as well -- any ideas?
[11:16] <babo> guys, I have a display problem ...
[11:16] <kyle_> timalot: want to take a look at a screenshot that shows a problem i'm having
[11:16] <babo> babo     :0       -                01Oct06 ?xdm?   4:36  13.58s x-session-manager
[11:16] <sugoruyo> hey does someone know what i can do to get linux working on a P965 machine?
[11:17] <timalot> kyle_: ok ...
[11:17] <babo> xhost:  unable to open display "0:"
[11:17] <babo> how can I get my terminal to connect to my xserver ?
[11:17] <kyle_> timalot: here
[11:17] <babo> DISPLAY=0:
[11:17] <timalot> babo ..... xhost + maybe ?
[11:17] <mnepton> sugoruyo: if Edgy doesn;t work, then complain to Intel about their refusal to supply the FOSS community with worthwhile support.
[11:18] <babo> timalot: xhost:  unable to open display "0:"
[11:18] <nry> i have a printer problem, my ubuntu 6.06 finds the printer over a LAN on a W2K PC, install is OK but......the printer page test puts the printer in pause
[11:18] <nry> what's wrong?
[11:18] <wastrel> DISPLAY=:0.0
[11:18] <sugoruyo> mnepton, i'd go bash them with my expensive m/b
[11:18] <timalot> babo: yeah its :0 not 0:
[11:18] <sugoruyo> but currently the problem is a have a new computer
[11:18] <mnepton> sugoruyo: it may be the best use yet of that north bridge ;)
[11:19] <sugoruyo> which does not work
[11:19] <sugoruyo> linux won't see my PATA drives
[11:19] <timalot> kyle_: give me a url to look at your screen shot
[11:19] <babo> d'oh. thanks
[11:19] <sugoruyo> and i don't know about the on-board NIC [i have a spare tho] 
[11:19] <mnepton> sugoruyo: because Intel has not given the Linux community what we need to make the 965 work.
[11:20] <kyle_> timalot, well i can't because it's a problem with firefox therefore i can't upload it to anything
[11:20] <sugoruyo> not even M$ Vista RC available on their site for free works...
[11:20] <timalot> kyle_: whats the problem ? can u describe it?
[11:20] <sugoruyo> so far only XP has seen my PATA DVD/RW
[11:20] <CorpseFeeder> I put a Pinnacle Studio DC10+ analogue video capture card (Zoran) in my linux machine. Who wants to help me make it work in Ubuntu? What program can I get for Ubuntu which will do capture from an analogue/composite video instead of from DV/firewire?
[11:20] <mnepton> sugoruyo: this is why i'm an AMD user. i'm tired of Intel's crap.
[11:20] <sugoruyo> yeah well is there something i could do about it?
[11:21] <sugoruyo> like install from an external USB drive
[11:21] <kyle_> timalot, just accept the screenshot, and have a look
[11:21] <sugoruyo> and then use some sort of kernel patch to access the internal PATA one?
[11:21] <mnepton> sugoruyo: not much, other than tell Intel you have choices when buying software, and as a Linux user, they are making it hard to choose Intel.
[11:21] <timalot> kyle_: my irc client doesnt do file transfers....
[11:21] <mnepton> sugoruyo: i don;t think you understand
[11:21] <CorpseFeeder> does VLC do video capture from composite video capture card?
[11:21] <Gnomer__> mnepton, I have returned.
[11:22] <mnepton> sugoruyo: Intel has not supplied the code to make the 965 work in Linux. period. end of story. there is no workaround. there is no magic. there is only "the 965 does not work well with Linux"
[11:22] <jirib> hi all
[11:22] <Gnomer__> mnepton, I've discovered that it HAS to be the router causing the problem.
[11:23] <jirib> any unofficial xen packages for ubuntu with prebuilt kernels?
[11:23] <mnepton> Gnomer__: i rpescribe fire. and lots of it.
[11:23] <Flannel> !tell jirib about xen
[11:23] <Gnomer__> mnepton, I prefer thermite.
[11:23] <wastrel> router is finicky about mac addy?
[11:23] <sugoruyo> well is far from not at all i think
[11:23] <Gnomer__> wastrel, yeah.
[11:23] <CorpseFeeder> anyone here had any experience with analogue video capture cards in ubuntu?
[11:23] <sugoruyo> using an external DVD drive
[11:23] <Gnomer__> It won't make a lease for it.
[11:23] <wastrel> we hates it my precious
[11:23] <sugoruyo> i was able to boot into dapper live
[11:23] <sugoruyo> but gnome won't finish loading...
[11:24] <mnepton> Gnomer__: can you still get that? i though the Czech plant that made it shut down.
[11:24] <jirib> Flannel: thats edgy, dapper ones?
[11:24] <sugoruyo> i'm stuck with the brown wally and a cursor
[11:24] <Gnomer__> mnepton, :/
[11:24] <Gnomer__> www.unitednuclear.com
[11:24] <Gnomer__> It's iron oxide 3 with aluminum, not hard to make if you dn't want it ordered.
[11:25] <mnepton> sugoruyo: some of the 965 pieces work. some do not. the 965 has been nothing but a headache here.
[11:25] <kyle_> timalot, well basically it looked like this, "Could not insall /var/cache/apt/firefox" problem creating symbolic link "./usr/bin/firefox"
[11:25] <Laris> yo
[11:25] <Windwalker78> does anybody have a RTL8139 installed?
[11:25] <boink> sure, that's just a cheapo RealTek card
[11:25] <YoG> aedes: I tried following the howto for the nvidia, but it didn't work, I'm tried to reboot and it seems that the computer hangs at the point of starting the X...
[11:25] <sugoruyo> it's also what i'm going to have to run on...
[11:25] <boink> s/card/chip/
[11:25] <kyle_> timalot, firefox no longer opens or reinstalls
[11:25] <boink> the RTL8139 works perfectly under all open source systems
[11:25] <kyle_> the ways ive tried anyway
[11:25] <mnepton> sugoruyo: then good luck. i can guarantee the 965 will not be certified for Edgy.
[11:26] <timalot> kyle_: ok u probably want to remove the firefox package completely then try and install the package again
[11:26] <Gnomer__> mnepton, I'm going to have to call Belkin (Yes, I know my router sucks and needs to be shot several times with an plasma rifle.)
[11:26] <Windwalker78> except for mine :(
[11:26] <sugoruyo> now i know intel deserves the ISS to drop on their heads
[11:26] <Gnomer__> Will you do it for me, rofl.
[11:26] <Windwalker78> Ubuntu 6.06
[11:26] <nry> i have a printer problem, my ubuntu 6.06 finds the printer over a LAN on a W2K PC, install is OK but......the printer page test puts the printer in pause
[11:26] <nry> what's wrong?
[11:26] <boink> Gnomer_ : all routers sux
[11:26] <Gnomer__> They already hate me..I proved I was smarter then their tech support.
[11:26] <Windwalker78> it breaks after a while especially when copying
[11:26] <sugoruyo> but i need to make it work...
[11:26] <mnepton> Gnomer__: sorry,m had to sell my handguns when i moved to canada./
[11:26] <boink> what's the default sound app under gnome/ubuntu ?
[11:26] <Laris> out of interest
[11:26] <sugoruyo> so if anyone has something that can help...
[11:27] <mnepton> Gnomer__: but i can heartily recommend the US Robotics 8200
[11:27] <timalot> kyle_: sudo dpkg -P firefox ; apt-get install firefox
[11:27] <mnepton> sugoruyo: what part of "there is no good support for the 965 in the Linux kernel" is unclear. no one can help you. there is no fix. there is no silver bullet. only Intel has the answers, and they are not sharing.
[11:28] <aedes> YoG: its probably hanging because its having a problem with the graphics driver
[11:28] <kyle_> timalot, k
[11:28] <aedes> YoG: do you have the nivia driver installed?
[11:28] <YoG> aedes: I have only the tv connected, when I disconnect the tv it boots ok (no monitor at all)... :(
[11:29] <Windwalker78> nry: do you see my whisper?
[11:29] <YoG> aedes: I don't know... in xorg.conf it sais "nv"
[11:29] <sugoruyo> mnepton, nothing is unclear
[11:29] <YoG> aedes: should i install something?
[11:29] <aedes> what do you mean "no monitor at all"?
[11:29] <mikemiezter> want to install nvdia driver? install automatix ^^
[11:29] <timalot> sugoruyo: there is no generic chipset support?
[11:29] <jirib> when will be release of edgy eft?
[11:29] <sugoruyo> i just won't believe that there is no way to run linux on a p965 board
[11:29] <mnepton> sugoruyo: then i'm confused as to why you would say "if anyone has something that could help..."
[11:29] <sugoruyo> the problem people are reporting
[11:30] <aedes> YoG: the link you gave me says to have the nvifia binary driver from nvidia
[11:30] <sugoruyo> is lack of the JMicron controller support
[11:30] <mnepton> sugoruyo: believe what you want. but our testing has told us the 965 is not ready for Linux.
[11:30] <aedes> which is called "nvidia" as opposed to the OSS on called "nv"
[11:30] <YoG> aedes: ah...
[11:30] <friday> Hi, I changed my LCD monitor from using the DVI connection to the VGA connection on my graphics card. Then I had to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but apparently the default frequency settings doesnt, work. Now I im stuck at GDM with a frequency my monitor cant display. How do I get to a console prompt? Is there an easy way to tell what frequencies i need to input? Why doesnt it just autodetect it as it did when I had it on the DVI connector?
[11:30] <sugoruyo> and some on-bard NICs not working either
[11:30] <lorenzod> join #laug
[11:30] <sugoruyo> however some people are reporting succesful netinstalls or installs from USB
[11:31] <cpk2> friday: pressing ctrl alt f1 will get you to a tty
[11:31] <sugoruyo> so what i'm talking about is whether is should go for edgy
[11:31] <YoG> aedes: can i install them with aptitude?
[11:31] <sugoruyo> or stay with dapper and try that
[11:31] <KenSentMe> friday: press ctrl+alt+f1, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:31] <mnepton> sugoruyo: we have been testing the 965 with Edgy and it is still a giant problem
[11:31] <cpk2> friday: i think sudo ddcprobe or ddc probe will probe your monitor for what it uses
[11:31] <friday> cpk2: tried it but it does not work
[11:32] <mnepton> sugoruyo: the. Linux. kernel. does. not. have. good. support. for. the. 965.
[11:32] <sugoruyo> could you be a bit more specific? i mean is it the PATA or a more generic issue
[11:32] <aedes> YoG: I haven't a clue, but I would think so, since its a common driver (but its not open)
[11:32] <cpk2> friday: ctrl alt f1 doesnt take yoy to a tty?
[11:32] <mnepton> sugoruyo: Edgy is Linux. we didn;t write a different kernel for this release.
[11:32] <friday> cpk2: KenSentMe: the ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt take me to a tty no
[11:32] <YoG> aedes: not open... meaning?
[11:32] <KenSentMe> friday: then reboot in emergency mode (or whatever it's called), choose it from grub
[11:32] <friday> cpk2: i can reboot by doing CTRL-ALT-Backspace and then CTRL-ALT-DELETE quickly after
[11:33] <cpk2> friday: now that isnt very nice =P
[11:33] <mnepton> sugoruyo: some ports work, some do not. SATA1 is completely broken, SATA2 works fine. the IDE controller works. oh, wait, no it doesn't. now it's back. oops, gone again. oh, there goes SATA2. etc etc etc etc etc etc
[11:33] <aedes> meaning its closed source
[11:33] <kyle_> timalot, can i pm you with what i got as a result
[11:33] <timalot> kyle_: sure
[11:34] <sugoruyo> mnepton, so there's general instability?
[11:34] <YoG> aedes: yes i know, but how does it affect me, other than having to use binaries?
[11:34] <friday> KenSentMe: cpk2 dang 2 sec timer on the menu, thats why i never saw it :-)
[11:34] <mnepton> sugoruyo: not instability. outright "IT DOES NOT WORK"
[11:34] <sugoruyo> hm
[11:34] <kyle_> crap i'm unregistered
[11:34] <kyle_> well
[11:35] <friday> cpk2: ill try the dcc probe now :_
[11:35] <mnepton> sugoruyo: Intel has paid us to certify their hardware, and the 965 is going to fail, fail, fail. period. done. it is not ready for Linux.
[11:35] <aedes> well, I don't know what aptitude is (I assume some apt-based pkg mamanger), so I don't know if it contains non-open sourced packages
[11:35] <kyle_> timalot, dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:35] <kyle_>  error creating symbolic link `./usr/bin/firefox': No such file or directory
[11:35] <kyle_> maybe my repository isn't finding firefox
[11:36] <YoG> aedes: ah, ok...
[11:36] <adminX> hello
[11:36] <timalot> kyle_: it should be /usr/bin/firefox ... not ./usr/bin/firefox
[11:36] <mnepton> kyle_: that ./ is killing you
[11:36] <friday> cpk2: ddcprobe shows the resolutions but nothing about the refresh rates
[11:36] <mnepton> kyle_: why are you installing Fx from a .deb?
[11:36] <adminX> DAMN IT 2 HELL!
[11:37] <kyle_> mnepton
[11:37] <cpk2> friday: you do it as sudo?
[11:37] <adminX> I LUV UBUNTU
[11:37] <kyle_> it started as an update to 1.5.0.7
[11:37] <adminX> 6.06!
[11:37] <adminX> ?
[11:37] <cpk2> i guess you have to do it as sudo
[11:37] <cpk2> friday: then you need to find a manual
[11:37] <kyle_> somehow that got ruined and in the process i ruined my 1.0.7
[11:37] <mnepton> kyle_: is this coming through a package manager (e.g. Synaptic?)
[11:37] <friday> cpk2: urrrg i was hoping not having to go through that :-(
[11:38] <friday> cpk2: 21st century and all
[11:38] <cpk2> friday: find a manual for the horiz sync and vert refresh
[11:38] <cpk2> friday: ddcprobe is the autodetect =(
[11:38] <misieq> !kde
[11:38] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[11:38] <kyle_> mnepton, no that came through terminal
[11:38] <mnepton> kyle_: just use Synaptic
[11:38] <friday> cpk2: ddcprobe seems to probe my graphics card not the monitor
[11:38] <mnepton> kyle_: remove Firefox, then re-add it
[11:39] <Windwalker78> I am about to assemble a terminal server with ubuntu 6.06 but before i purchase the MB i need some advise regarding the LAN Adapter. I had REALLY awful time with Dapper and 8139. My main aim is the lan of the MB to be 1 Gbit and to work flawlessly. Anybody with MOBO with integrated 1 Gbit adapter working fine?
[11:39] <kyle_> that's what i was doing, through terminal, just a second ago
[11:39] <friday> cpk2: perhaps it cant probe a vga connection? install detected the monitor just fine when on DVI connection
[11:39] <kyle_> i'll try in synaptic
[11:39] <cpk2> friday: if you want you can do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:39] <cpk2> friday: or i might have it backwards it might be xorg-xserver
[11:39] <friday> cpk2: thats what I did already
[11:39] <friday> cpk2: its xserver-xorg
[11:40] <cpk2> friday: is it hard to find out what your horiz sync and vert refresh is?
[11:40] <timalot> why dont changelogs show up in the update manager? ... ive got 82 updates... waiting but most of them have no changelogs
[11:41] <friday> cpk2: i think i have the manual stored somewhere ...
[11:41] <gnomer__> this is frustrating.
[11:42] <cpk2> friday: you could try google, "mymonitor manual"
[11:42] <gnomer__> mnepton, I know wahts wrong now..
[11:42] <cpk2> timalot: 82? psh thats nothing, i have 280 being held back atm... =P
[11:43] <mike> does floxbox change gnome? or floxbox is just an eyecandy??
[11:43] <friday> cpk2: i will, im just annoyed at the fact that I have to do that.. its the same monitor, just changed the cable
[11:43] <timalot> cpk2: fair enough ... why update if they arent going to tell u why
[11:43] <friday> cpk2: but thanks for your help
[11:44] <cpk2> friday: mine didnt work either even when it worked in windows, but all you have to do is change *gasp* 2 lines in xorg ;)
[11:44] <friday> cpk2: Well to be honest i have already spent entire days of my life configuring X.
[11:44] <k31th> hum how can i run a script as root via a php script ?
[11:45] <cpk2> friday: =(
[11:45] <friday> cpk2: ie. i think i have spent too long time doing it
[11:45] <gnomer__> k31th, learn how to make a PHP Shell
[11:45] <timalot> k31th: question is why?
[11:45] <friday> cpk2: I guess I was kinda hoping that I wouldnt have to do that come 2006 :-/
[11:45] <timalot> k31th: but if u really want to ... u set the setuid bit on the executable
[11:46] <Fuzzy76> What are the difference between the two apache2 dev packages?
[11:46] <k31th> timalot: I want to be able to add user via  web interface
[11:46] <lazzareth> Why cant I write to usb thumbdrives ? Copy information -> shows up as its on the disk -> remove disk -> plug disk back in -> no information      is this because i havent manually mounted it in fstab ? right now its auto-mounting?
[11:46] <k31th> and creae a home dir etc.
[11:46] <cpk2> friday: yeah, the silly part is my monitor says it supports both ddc versions and yet it still cant figure out all of my resolutions and freq
[11:46] <mnepton> i'm always amazed that people will "run this script as root" or "click here to install the virusland.com IE toolbar!" but they would never, EVER say yes to some stranger on the street handing them a piece of fur-covered mystery meat and saying "eat this."
[11:46] <k31th> im passwd protecting the web dir etc only an admin will have acess to this.
[11:47] <czekista> is there any differecne between /dev/usb/lp0 and /dev/usblp0?
[11:47] <friday> cpk2: does ddc work on a VGA connection?
[11:47] <cpk2> friday: of course
[11:47] <gnomer__> mnepton, Mmmm, fur covered mystery meat.
[11:47] <cpk2> friday: dvi still is not all that common
[11:47] <friday> cpk2: just wondering why it doesnt show anything about mine though
[11:47] <mnepton> gnomer__: hands off, she's mine.
[11:48] <gnomer__> mnepton, s/she/he/;
[11:48] <friday> cpk2: it lists a lot of modes, but only with resolution info, and then theres a line saying edid: edidfail which i guess means not able to probe display
[11:49] <mnepton> gnomer__: hence the "mystery"
[11:49] <cpk2> friday: thats exactly how mine is, yet it doesnt even show my max resolution
[11:49] <gnomer__> mnepton, there is only one way to find out.
[11:49] <gnomer__> You first.
[11:49] <timalot> k31th: ok well if u want to u can set the script file's ownership to root ... then chmod +s <filename> .... the script will then run with root privileges ,,,, not a good idea but if u want to ....
[11:49] <mnepton> caught it. it's a guy.
[11:50] <gnomer__> XD
[11:50] <gnomer__> mnepton, do you think my router is male or female? I mean...I has ports.
[11:50] <gnomer__> It&
[11:51] <mnepton> gnomer__: but it also has an antenna that spews packets. i'll stay safe and say "hermaphroditic"
[11:51] <kyle_> mnepton, what packages should i select, just the one named firefox or what?
[11:51] <k31th> timalot: well the only person that will access this will be me and another admin so it should be ok ?
[11:51] <gnomer__> mnepton, but..how do I know if I can hit it without jail?
[11:51] <mnepton> kyle_: just firefox should also grab anything else it needs
[11:52] <mnepton> gnomer__: build date on the kernel?
[11:52] <timalot> k31th: well ok ... but if some one does a DOS attack on your php script .... u may end up with a lot of users
[11:53] <gnomer__> mnepton, kernel? To my machine you mean?
[11:53] <kyle_> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[11:53] <kyle_>   404 Not Found [IP: 146.137.96.15 80] 
[11:53] <k31th> timalot: well they wont have access to it? its in a passwd protected dir ?
[11:53] <cpk2> friday: The DDC link is carried on three pins  data, clock and ground  in a 15-pin VGA connector, a DVI connector or an HDMI connector so yes, it shouldnt matter how you plug your monitor in
[11:54] <kyle_> can i add a specific repository just for firefox...? waht should i do about that
[11:54] <gnomer__> kyja, ubuntu should come WITH firefox
[11:54] <gnomer__> :/
[11:54] <timalot> k31th: ok ... i dont know about system admin best practices... if u want to do its up to you... i am just telling u , u can run the script as root
[11:54] <gnomer__> kyle_**
[11:55] <friday> cpk2: k
[11:55] <kyle_> i know, it does, but mine is broke
[11:55] <mewt> how can i isntall my kernel C headers ?
[11:55] <mewt> i am trying to install wmware player
[11:55] <gnomer__> Open up synaptic package manager
[11:55] <gnomer__> It has a "fix broken packages" option.
[11:56] <mewt> and i need to give it the firectory of the C headers that match my kernel
[11:56] <kyle_> right
[11:56] <gnomer__> kyle_, you already try that?
[11:56] <kyle_> but it isn't finding firefox.. Failed to fetch
[11:56] <gnomer__> kyle_, :/ I dunno then
[11:56] <gnomer__> Try an apt-get update
[11:59] <cpk2> just to verify, are the us repos down?
[11:59] <micahcowan> kyle_, cpk2, I'm currently getting "failed to fetches" too, due to 404s. Try switching to a different archive (us.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down)
[12:00] <mewt> anyone ?
[12:01] <cpk2> how annoying
[12:01] <cpk2> it always bugs me when us repos go down
[12:01] <friday> cpk2: ok, im now up and running using the manual... btw. should I enable the v4l module?
[12:01] <micahcowan> mewt, I believe you want linux-libc-dev
[12:02] <cpk2> friday: never heard of that, i am trying to get something that might be able to grab info from the monitor
[12:02] <mewt> micahcowan, i installed linux-headers-686
[12:02] <mewt> and i restarted the vmplayer isntallation
[12:02] <friday> cpk2: kk
[12:02] <mewt> seems to have been detected automatically now
[12:02] <mewt> thanks
[12:03] <AJ--> wa
[12:04] <AJ--> how can i use a higher resolution on my ubuntu
[12:04] <misieq> !tor
[12:04] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[12:04] <AJ--> im using nvidia Gforce4MX 440 video card
[12:04] <misieq> to use tor i just have to install it and it does all the job by itself?
[12:05] <cpk2> friday: read-edid is a package in the universe repo that can try to probe your monitor too
[12:05] <cpk2> friday: I am beginning to think that it might be a problem with my nvidia drivers. do you happen to have nvidia too?
[12:05] <YoG> aedes: yay... it working :-) thanx...
[12:06] <petr_> hi everybode, is in there any Apache2 guru?
[12:06] <basanta> Is it possible is disable totem from autoplaying vcd/dvd?
[12:07] <Renski> petr_, no, but Ive used it...a bit
[12:07] <Renski> just ask the question
[12:07] <petr_> ok, i have problems with 403 (forbidden) on apache2, php5
[12:08] <misieq> petr_: check access permissions to the files/folders you try to browse
[12:08] <micahcowan> petr_, what is the URL you're getting 403 on?
[12:08] <Ramunas> hello :)
[12:09] <zool2005> basanta, I think you can do it from the 'preferred apps' menu?
[12:09] <Renski> misieq: is write, check apache has rx premissions
[12:09] <Renski> *rigjt
[12:09] <Renski> *RIGHT
[12:09] <Renski> cant type...
[12:10] <petr_> localhost/test/test.txt, physically /var/www/test/test.txt; all permissions opened (to read and run)
[12:10] <misieq> petr_: and .htaccess?
[12:10] <petr_> think none...
[12:10] <misieq> specifically "order" directive
[12:10] <micahcowan> petr_, what are the permissions for /var/www and /var/www/test?
[12:11] <zool2005> basanta, otherwise check the configuration editor
[12:11] <AJ--> sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-systray   <--- how do this code work?
[12:12] <aedes> YoG: no problem
[12:12] <micahcowan> petr_, what does /var/log/apache2/error.log say about it?
[12:12] <basanta> zool2005, is it controlled by gvm?
[12:12] <micahcowan> AJ--, what specifically do you want to know? It gains admin privileges and installs the xchat and xchat-systray packages.
[12:12] <cpk2> friday: after a little more reading not only does the monitor need to support ddc but so does the video card, which is odd in my case since i have a geforce 6600 you would think that it supports ddc
[12:13] <petr_> /var/www: drwxrwxrwx, /var/www/test: drwxr-xr-x, but test.txt: -rw-------, i think i know where's the problem :-)
[12:13] <jacked> hehe
[12:13] <zool2005> basanta, I'm not sure. I'm at work using Windoze at the moment so I can't help you much more! Sorry :-)
[12:14] <AJ--> so micahcowan i should download xchat then run that on the terminal is that right?
[12:14] <jacked> AJ: that will download it automatically
[12:14] <jacked> just run that in the terminal
[12:14] <jacked> you'll be asked for your password
[12:15] <basanta> zool2005, thanks anyway dude
[12:15] <micahcowan> AJ--, what jacked said. Alternatively, you can use Synaptic to install those two packages.
[12:15] <lansing> i got a lil prob wen i try to use my 3.5 drive it says Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[12:15] <lansing> wats that mean
[12:15] <aedes> anyone know where the kernel configs are for the ubuntu kernels?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> aedes: in /boot
[12:18] <RubyOnFails> any females here ?
[12:18] <aedes> thanks thoreauputic
[12:18] <thoreauputic> aedes: np :)
[12:18] <thoreauputic> RubyOnFails: only humans ;p
[12:18] <RubyOnFails> yeah but I was curious
[12:19] <RubyOnFails> if any female ubuntu user
[12:19] <RubyOnFails> I think there is not
[12:19] <RubyOnFails> and that's pathetic
[12:19] <oskude> !enter
[12:19] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:19] <RubyOnFails> ok ubotu
[12:19] <RubyOnFails> lol
[12:19] <micahcowan> RubyOnFails, don't be ridiculous. There are plenty. I don't see any I recognize at the moment, but...
[12:20] <RubyOnFails> micahcowan, ok
[12:20] <micahcowan> And it's completely offtopic for here. Asking in #ubuntu-offtopic was the only appropriate place.
[12:20] <SexyUbuntuGirl4u> What do you mean. Ok, I may be 6ft, short, hair, built like a wall, with a deep voice. Im insulted!
[12:20] <cpk2> RubyOnFails: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWomen?highlight=%28women%29
[12:20] <micahcowan> cpk2, lol
[12:21] <mnepton> RubyOnFails: my girlfriend uses Ubuntu. all my female co-workers use Ubuntu. my 2 female neighbors use Ubuntu ...
[12:21] <RubyOnFails> micahcowan, true but this was only one question and it is related to this channel . I  may not ask this question in anothe channel and waiting an answer for female #ubuntu'ers
[12:21] <jacked> same here: my gf uses Ubuntu
[12:21] <mnepton> RubyOnFails: /join #ubuntu-women
[12:21] <micahcowan> RubyOnFails, believe it or not, it is not related to this channel, which is intended for support purposes only.
[12:21] <seraphim> mine also has to :P
[12:21] <mewt> RubyOnFails, does it really make any difference to you ?
[12:21] <Ramunas> mnepton: hey :), how do you convert women to Ubuntu? I wasn't successful in doing this :/
[12:22] <RubyOnFails> mewt, it satisfies my curiosity. Which also allows me to switch to linux instead of windows
[12:22] <timalot> theyve got a girl on the logo so they must
[12:22] <jacked> here we go...
[12:22] <mnepton> Ramunas: show them a picture of Steve Ballmer and say, "You pay this guy."
[12:22] <seraphim> lol
[12:22] <cpk2> RubyOnFails: also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WomenInUbuntu?highlight=%28women%29
[12:22] <Ramunas> :DDD
[12:22] <mnepton> Ramunas: most women, after vomitting slightly into their mouths and spitting, convert to Linux
[12:22] <q1> how can i change my locales ?
[12:22] <cpk2> wait no, thats the same link..
[12:23] <cpk2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WomenInUbuntu?action=fullsearch&value=linkto%3A%22WomenInUbuntu%22&context=180
[12:23] <oskude> !locale > q1
[12:23] <cpk2> thats better
[12:23] <RubyOnFails> I just wanted to know if there are any female users in the channel right now. That's it. No more no less. Thank you for your guide though, period.
[12:23] <q1> ok thanks
[12:24] <cpk2> i also think there is a kde womens group as well
[12:24] <apokryphos> there is, yes: women.kde.org
[12:24] <mnepton> RubyOnFails: most female Ubuntu users are smart. smart women usually don't answer, "any h07 c}{ixxz0rz h3r3!!!1!" questions on IRC. ;)
[12:24] <apokryphos> though that site is, on the whole, a little outdated
[12:24] <micahcowan> mnepton++
[12:24] <Arafangion> RubyOnFails: Also, see http://www.gnome.org/projects/wsop/
[12:25] <apokryphos> http://ubuntu-women.org/
[12:25] <Arafangion> RubyOnFails: And stand by for sexist comments.
[12:25] <Arafangion> *wink*
[12:25] <voltz> I used apt-get install kubuntu-desktop instead of aptitude and now I would like to remove all the packages that kubuntu has installed, is there eany other way then removing them via synaptic
[12:25] <apokryphos> voltz: remove some vital Qt or KDE package and they'll all go
[12:25] <RubyOnFails> I will not get into the flames for the sake of this channel is support only
[12:26] <cpk2> mnepton: excellent spelling of chicks =D
[12:27] <oskude> voltz: deborphan is one of them
[12:27] <jacked> voltz: if you're running edgy, you should be able to apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, and then follow that will apt-get auto-remove
[12:28] <czekista> gnome crashes when i try to cancel planed jobs in "printing" dialog
[12:28] <jacked> otherwire just apt-get remove k*   <--- not seriously
[12:28] <czekista> is there any way to cancel those jobs manually?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> jacked: they added auto-remove to apt in dapper?
[12:29] <jacked> oh
[12:30] <anilomkar> can u tell me how to install eclipse XML editor??
[12:30] <jacked> is that a question or info
[12:30] <seraphim> edgy doesn't have auto-remove
[12:31] <voltz> thanks folk,I new to linux and am using edgy,I did apt-get remove so I will try  apt-get auto remove
[12:31] <gnomefreak> seraphim: edgy sure does
[12:31] <gnomefreak> voltz: make sure you dont need any of those files and please join #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[12:31] <mnepton> voltz: welcome to Ubuntu.
[12:31] <jacked> seraphim: it does, but I don't think the man is updated yet
[12:32] <voltz> ahh ok thanks
[12:33] <seraphim> i just tried, it said invalid operation
[12:33] <jacked> seraphim: try autoremove
[12:33] <gnomefreak> guys #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[12:34] <seraphim> now i'm doing an upgrade. will try later :) ty
[12:34] <jacked> seraphim: the latter directive is correct.
[12:35] <guijo> how do i run scripts?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> guijo: what kind of script
[12:35] <timalot> anilomkar: help->software updates->find and install .... is the usual way to install eclipse plugins
[12:35] <guijo> sn xinstall.sh -check
[12:35] <jacked> guijo: make sure the file is executable
[12:35] <jacked> guijo: sudo sh xinstall.sh -check
[12:35] <gnomefreak> guijo: first run chmod +x filename
[12:36] <gnomefreak> jacked: sudo?
[12:36] <guijo> where do i type that?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> well i guess that depoends
[12:36] <gnomefreak> guijo: terminal
[12:36] <oskude> if you run "sh foo.sh" the script doesnt have to be executable...
[12:37] <jacked> gnomefreak: why the question?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> jacked: once you make it excutable you dont need sudo
[12:38] <guijo> no such file or directory :(
[12:38] <oskude> and using "./foo.sh" (with executable flag set) only works if it has "sha-bang"
[12:38] <elfranger> trallala
[12:38] <guijo> do i have to download it first before i run it?
[12:38] <jacked> gnomefreak: unless the script requires root priv's... which many install scripts do
[12:38] <jacked> gnomefreak: no?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> jacked: that really depends on the person who wrote it.
[12:39] <jacked> guijo: most likely, yes.  unless you want to... um.... yeah, just download it
[12:40] <micahcowan> oskude, technically, that's not true for sh scripts. True for anything else. (exec is required to execute "unknown" program formats with sh)
[12:40] <boyFromOZ> Hello you guys
[12:40] <gnomer__> Hello boyFromOZ
[12:41] <lansing> am i able to play windows games on linux
[12:41] <timalot> why do kde program change 'c' s to 'k'  s?
[12:41] <gnomer__> lansing, yep, well
[12:41] <gnomer__> Depends.
[12:41] <Arafangion> timalot: Marketing.
[12:41] <gnomer__> Try wine, may/may not work.
[12:41] <oskude> timalot: cause they are kool ;)
[12:42] <lansing> ive got this game called cossaks
[12:42] <jacked> lansing: some. more with wine. but for the most part, windows-native games work best on windows.
[12:42] <guijo> ubuntu is linux-ix86-glibc?
[12:42] <rambo3> same reson X button on top doesn't close programs in KDE
[12:42] <lansing> o
[12:42] <lansing> ok
[12:43] <jacked> lansing: but I'm just a repeater-monkey on that one.  I'm not a gamer.
[12:43] <guijo> hello?
[12:44] <vinboy> i got my new Core 2 Duo cpu & mobo... when I try to boot using the LiveCd, it freeeze when loading kernel
[12:44] <jacked> so you might want another source
[12:44] <vinboy> help
[12:44] <IsaacKlinger> Hey, how do I disable the generic mouse (Driver=mouse) while X is already running?
[12:44] <lansing> ok
[12:44] <oskude> micahcowan: yup, seems so. meaning the sha-bang...
[12:44] <mewt> how can i change the default media player in dapper ? i hate totem _
[12:44] <micahcowan> yup, I'm right, or yup, you are?
[12:44] <serishema> vinboy: maybe the live CD doesn't have an SMP kernel.
[12:45] <micahcowan> ( oskude )
[12:45] <jacked> vinboy: what model
[12:45] <oskude> micahcowan: yup, youre right
[12:45] <vinboy> seraphima: maybe :(  . does that mean i can't get back to linux?? i got important files there
[12:45] <vinboy> jacked: E6400
[12:45] <mewt> serishema, you dont need an smp kernel to load either way, i use smp kernel on my p4 but i laod with i386 normal kernel
[12:45] <micahcowan> yeah... all the same, though, better to include the shebang line. Especially if you really wanted bash, not sh (sh is no longer bash in edgy)
[12:45] <jacked> jacked: brand?
[12:46] <timalot> mewt:  right click on a file of the type of the association u want to change ... and go to the open with tab.
[12:46] <mewt> timalot, thanks will do
[12:46] <serishema> mewt: Didn't know that. i don't actually have any smp or even dual core machines here.
[12:46] <timalot> mewt: properties then to the open with tab
[12:46] <vinboy> jacked: CPU= intel e6400 mobo=Gigabyte p965 ds3
[12:46] <Clawfinger> hey can anybody recommend a torrent client for me that i can find in the apt-get repository?
[12:47] <serishema> i use ktorrent, but if you don't have the kde libs you might not want to use that
[12:47] <mewt> ubuntu doesnt ship with smp kernels infact
[12:47] <rupert_> Clawfinger: aptitude search torrent :-)
[12:47] <Clawfinger> thanks
[12:47] <cpk2> Clawfinger: I like azureus but after you apt-get it you need to find the 2.5 jar (the azureus package doesnt seem to be well maintained)
[12:47] <mewt> y doesnt ubuntu move away from apt-get in favor of ubuntu if aptitude is so much better
[12:47] <jacked> vinboy: is it a pre-configured system?  (dell, HP, etc.?)
[12:47] <mewt> ?
[12:47] <vinboy> jacked: no it isn't
[12:48] <mewt> in favor of aptitude*
[12:48] <cpk2> mewt: isnt the only difference aptitude remembers deps?
[12:48] <jacked> vinboy: okay.  (there is info on-line for many of the pre-config machines... that's why I ask)
[12:48] <mewt> yeah but it would be so much better for users
[12:48] <Clawfinger> rupert_: how do i search in aptitude?
[12:49] <mewt> much more user friendly
[12:49] <Clawfinger> cpk2: i tried to apt-get install azureus it can't seem to find it
[12:49] <cpk2> !info azureus
[12:49] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0.2-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 5680 kB, installed size 6408 kB
[12:49] <rupert_> Clawfinger: what do you mean "how" ?
[12:49] <stat1c> hi everybody. I need help installing ubuntu on a sil-3112 raid 0... have only found guides with links to dead pages :-(. Any help would be appreciated (btw im a noob, prepare yourself :P)
[12:49] <mewt> in the same way that installing ubuntu-desktop installs all packages, removing it should remove all
[12:49] <jacked> vinboy: what version are you trying to install?
[12:49] <Clawfinger> rupert_: well it's not directly obvious, i can't find a search field, heh
[12:50] <jacked> vinboy: edgy beta?  dapper?
[12:50] <vinboy> jacked: actually i have it installed, but i need to get to linux to reinstall the grub
[12:50] <cpk2> Clawfinger: you can search by using command line, "apt-cache search thisiswhati'msearchingfor"
[12:50] <rupert_> Clawfinger: just write in console aptitude search name_of_what_you_try_to_find
[12:51] <rupert_> Clawfinger: and you will see a list of packages
[12:51] <Clawfinger> thanks
[12:51] <rupert_> Clawfinger: like ktorrent
[12:51] <rupert_> Clawfinger: qtorrent
[12:51] <mnepton> Clawfinger: i recommend "sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui"
[12:51] <rupert_> Clawfinger: bittorrent
[12:52] <Clawfinger> thanks guys.
[12:52] <Jaak_> hellow, can anyone tip me on dvd ripping software? Oh and some tool to creat ipod video?
[12:52] <jacked> vinboy: okay, not a problem.  download the iso again (if necessary) and burn a new CD. If it installed the first time, it'll do it a second (unless there is a change in hardware)
[12:53] <ogamiitto> can netstat display information regarding to what network interface belong each connection? how?
[12:54] <mewt> can the use of screen cause any applications to be entitled to less cpu and ram resources ?
[12:54] <mewt> i mean servers running in screen itself
[12:54] <jacked> alternately, you could try downloading a smaller linux distro (like DSL) and binding to the current install, etc.  (but I haven't had much luck with DSL and dual CPUs; however, I use Macs)
[12:56] <lazzareth> In the Ubuntu HCL it says that my motherboard  the Asus A8N-SLI works with no known issues, However the onboard GiB NIC never has worked in dapper or breezy? have i missed something?
[12:56] <timalot> ogamiitto: it will show u the ip address of the end points so u know what interface the connection is on
[12:57] <ogamiitto> ok, thanks timalot
[12:57] <mewt> lazzareth, what do you mean has never worked ? it isnt detected? or it just doesnt get an ip assigned ?
[12:58] <jacked> lazzareth: ipconfig       <--   what are the devices listed?
[12:58] <Clawfinger> mnepton: i got bittornado, but i can't seem to access it, i tried both 'bittornado' and 'bittornado-gui' in the terminal and neither work
[12:58] <jacked> err... ifconfig
[12:59] <lazzareth> mewt, What i should have said was, it has never worked or fully recognised it being a Gib nic, rather the max speed i can pump out at anytime is 10mb/
[12:59] <lazzareth> '10mb/s
[12:59] <rupert_> Clawfinger: do not you have a icon in your menu ?
[12:59] <lazzareth> jacked you mean 'ifconfig
[01:00] <guijo> is Xorg same as X.org?
[01:00] <Clawfinger> rupert_: where would it be/
[01:00] <lazzareth> jacked, my Nic is detected, the problem however is the rate
[01:00] <jacked> lazzareth: i already corrected that error.  :P
[01:00] <rupert_> Clawfinger: probably in "Internet"
[01:00] <lazzareth> Ohh, sorry :P
[01:00] <Clawfinger> rupert_: nope, i checked there, it's not.
[01:00] <lazzareth> Ill get the specs on the chipset if i can
[01:01] <rupert_> Clawfinger: so try to find possible name using apt-file
[01:01] <rupert_> Clawfinger: like
[01:02] <mnepton> Clawfinger: there should be an item in the GNOME menus
[01:02] <rupert_> Clawfinger: apt-file list bittornado-gui
[01:02] <mnepton> Clawfinger: or, right-click a .torrent and choose to pen with BitTornado
[01:02] <mnepton> *open
[01:02] <jacked> lazzareth: are you maxing out at 10Mb/s?
[01:02] <Clawfinger> bash: apt-file: command not found
[01:02] <canard> hi
[01:03] <lazzareth> Well, its never a consistant rate, ill check now. but never higher than about 9mb/s
[01:03] <Clawfinger> thanks mnepton
[01:03] <lazzareth> so i assume its working at 10mb/s
[01:03] <mnepton> Clawfinger: look in Applications->Internet
[01:03] <AJ--> hello im here again asking for questions
[01:03] <mewt> is there  a way to find ur current transfer rate from a cli ?
[01:03] <mewt> the closest i got to was netstat -s
[01:04] <Clawfinger> mnepton: it's not there, but using your first technique i discovered it's btdownloadgui
[01:04] <AJ--> i've configured my driver on xorg.conf
[01:04] <mewt> which gives no info to what i want
[01:04] <jacked> lazzareth: unless you've been able to pump out higher than that in the past with another OS, I'd tend to think you're bottlenecked somewhere else
[01:04] <AJ--> i follow the instructions on how to install nvidia vcard
[01:04] <AJ--> now my x server is gone
[01:04] <AJ--> im on the console mode only
[01:04] <AJ--> how can i get back to my gui
[01:04] <tahorg> AJ--: cool.
[01:05] <lazzareth> jacked, In windows (8-9 months ago i was trying it out, ive been looking or a solution all year) the card is recognised & works as a 1gib nic
[01:05] <jacked> AJ: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:05] <jacked> (assuming you have a backup)
[01:05] <JamesSane> Can anyone help me set up a new screen resolution; just got a 30" widescreen Samsung monitor and am having issues with setting up a 1360x768 60hz resolution
[01:06] <serishema> you should be able to do that in the System->Administration->Display menu
[01:06] <AJ--> i havent put a back up @jacked :((
[01:06] <jacked> lazzareth: huh.  not sure...
[01:06] <AJ--> my bad
[01:07] <jacked> AJ: do you remember your changes?
[01:07] <AJ--> yup
[01:07] <Subhuman> !edgy
[01:07] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:07] <Subhuman> !schendule
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schendule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <JamesSane> serishema: there is no resolution entry for 1380x768 in the Preferences > Screen Resolution
[01:07] <Subhuman> !schedule
[01:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:07] <lazzareth> Thanks anyway jacked, Does anyone else know how to fix my problem?
[01:07] <AJ--> i change the "nv" to "nvidia"
[01:07] <jacked> AJ: vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:07] <jacked> make your changes
[01:07] <Ash-Fox> Drat, libhal-dev libhal-storage-dev are broken
[01:08] <AJ--> on console mode @ jacked
[01:08] <jacked> then /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:08] <Arafangion> AJ--: Please use the more conventional method of "Addressing" jacked.
[01:08] <Rope> Some distro for a pentium with 64 of ram??
[01:08] <AJ--> sorry for that
[01:08] <AJ--> ill try sir jacked
[01:09] <jacked> :P
[01:09] <Arafangion> AJ--: Specifically, nick followed by a comma, semicolon, or colon, followed by a space, followed by the message.
[01:09] <Arafangion> AJ--: As you can see, you have three variations.
[01:12] <mewt> is there a way to find your current transfer speeds in cli ?
[01:12] <AJ--> Arafangion: tnx sorry for that.. im just new here.. thanks a lot
[01:12] <Arafangion> mewt: What with?
[01:12] <JamesSane> Can anyone help me set up a new resolution (1380x768 60hz) for my widescreen monitor?
[01:12] <mewt> Arafangion, i mean something like: dl: 30kb\s upload: 50kb\s
[01:13] <mewt> im sshing into my game server
[01:13] <mewt> and i need to use the bandwidth used
[01:13] <mewt> right now
[01:13] <bowman> JamesSane: sure - you can add it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the "Screen" section
[01:13] <Arafangion> mewt: The closest you could probably get would be ntop
[01:13] <Ash-Fox> mewt, you will need to write a script to handle the data from /proc/net/dev
[01:13] <jacked> lazzareth: are you still around?
[01:13] <Arafangion> mewt: Or iftop.
[01:14] <JamesSane> bowman: i have tried doing that to no success: is there an example of what it should look like under that section?
[01:14] <Arafangion> mewt: The later is for the console.
[01:14] <mewt> iftop and ntop give a command not found
[01:14] <Arafangion> mewt: Yeah, you *may* have to install them.
[01:14] <bowman> JamesSane: on my system, there are several resolutions listed there - if you wish, I can put my xorg.conf somewhere to let you look into it
[01:14] <Ash-Fox> mewt, install them, sudo apt-get install ntop iftop
[01:14] <mewt> sudo apt-get install ntop
[01:14] <mewt> opps sorry
[01:14] <mewt> wrong windows
[01:15] <Arafangion> mewt: They both show the current bandwidth _used_, though.  It is impossible to see the current speed per se.
[01:15] <JamesSane> bowman: anything would be helpful.. thanks
[01:15] <mewt> hmm nothing like what i can get through a gdesklet then ?
[01:16] <mewt> and both are not found :S do i need to add some repos ?
[01:16] <bowman> JamesSane: hang on, pastebin is a bit laggy :)
[01:16] <mewt> Arafangion, pasting 4 lines is allowed ?
[01:17] <Arafangion> mewt: Use a pastebin.
[01:17] <mewt> E: Couldn't find package iftop
[01:17] <mewt> ^^ this will be enough
[01:17] <jacked> bowman: try a different pastebin.   (pastebin.ca, for example)
[01:18] <bowman> jacked: thx
[01:18] <bowman> JamesSane: http://pastebin.ca/200775
[01:18] <Arafangion> !repos
[01:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:19] <jacked> off to work...
[01:19] <JamesSane> bowman: and through that you have all those resolution options available under System > Preferences > Screen Resolution?
[01:20] <el1984> hello
[01:20] <bowman> JamesSane: yeah
[01:20] <el1984> greetz from luxembourg
[01:20] <mewt> Arafangion, that still doesnt tell me what repos to add :)
[01:21] <Arafangion> !easysource
[01:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:21] <el1984> and it works fine :)
[01:22] <JamesSane> bowman: ive uploaded mine: after i changed my xorg.conf file i only have the 4 resolutions available: 1024x768, 832x624, 800x600, 640x480: http://pastebin.ca/200777  if you could have a look and maybe spot what is wrong
[01:22] <bowman> JamesSane: the "$ ?
[01:24] <lansing> ive got a problem evertime i use my firefox it shuts it self down wats wrong ?
[01:24] <JamesSane> bowman: it didn't post it all up.. there was more over the page hld on ill try and get the rest
[01:25] <Arafangion> lansing: What happens when you run it in a terminal?
[01:25] <JamesSane> bowman: http://pastebin.ca/200779
[01:25] <lansing> dont know how
[01:25] <bowman> JamesSane: ah, ok
[01:25] <bowman> JamesSane: I see no error
[01:25] <Arafangion> lansing: Run the Terminal
[01:26] <lansing> k
[01:26] <Arafangion> lansing: Type firefox
[01:26] <bowman> JamesSane: but you might remove those low resolutions anyway, if you never use them
[01:26] <lansing> then wat
[01:26] <Arafangion> lansing: Hit enter :)
[01:26] <el1984> then firefox should open
[01:26] <el1984> :)
[01:26] <lansing> ive done that
[01:26] <lansing> it has
[01:27] <Arafangion> lansing: Don't paste more than 3 lines here.
[01:27] <MrKinky> ouch. what happened to lilo?
[01:27] <MrKinky> anyone knows?
[01:27] <JamesSane> bowman: yea thats true.. it just that there are 10 specified in my xorg.conf file.. but only 4 are coming up in the screen resolution section
[01:27] <lansing> but it closes when iam in the middle of searchin site an stuff
[01:27] <lansing> k sorry
[01:27] <bowman> JamesSane: I suppose you'll have to read the logfiles ;) /var/log/Xorg.0.log - probably X skips the other resolutions for some reason
[01:27] <Arafangion> lansing: Ahh, so it does load, and it does work - it is just when you are in the middle of a particular site that it crashes? (That's not what you said)
[01:28] <bowman> JamesSane: that's all I can say, sry
[01:28] <lansing> sorry i should have typed wat i meant sorry
[01:28] <JamesSane> bowman: thanks for you help anyway :)
[01:29] <bowman> JamesSane: no problem. I know your pain, because I recently had a similar problem, but in my case it was the graphics card, not the config. good luck :)
[01:29] <JamesSane> bowman: what graphics card? and how do you upgrade that?
[01:30] <bowman> JamesSane: my graphics card was unable to display the resolution I wanted (some widescreen thing like 1650*800) - I took an NVIDIA supercool blaster whatever card out of a different pc and stuffed it into mine ;)
[01:30] <lansing> so wats rong wit it
[01:31] <ricanelite> Is anyone here using Ubuntu Linux on a Apple Machine?
[01:31] <JamesSane> bowman: haha nice.. i had an issue trying to update the drivers for my graphics card.. i got to the point where i needed to get out of X.. but i didn't know how to do that. how can u get to bash?
[01:32] <lazzareth> jacked Yeah Sorry, I am still around.. Just got caught up in something... News?
[01:33] <bowman> JamesSane: either via ctrl-alt-f1/f2/f3 (to get a terminal) and then go back to X with ctrl-f7, or leave X with ctrl-alt-backspace, which is often caught so that X automatically restarts
[01:33] <mewt> Arafangion, http://pastebin.ca/200781
[01:33] <lansing> is there an anti virus for ubuntu
[01:33] <mewt> Arafangion, should i run it as root ?
[01:34] <JamesSane> bowman: ok i'll give that a go now
[01:34] <mewt> lansing, y do you need it anyway ?
[01:34] <Arafangion> mewt: It requires root privilages.
[01:34] <lansing> cus my system is glitchin
[01:34] <Arafangion> mewt: It's a very powerful tool, actually.
[01:34] <Arafangion> mewt: Try: sudo iftop -i eth0
[01:34] <mewt> too powerful tbh
[01:35] <AJ--> i have edit the xorg.conf using vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf but i cant get back to the command line where i can restart the gdm.. wat should i do??
[01:35] <mewt> i cant understand anything i see
[01:35] <lansing> and i want to make sure my computer doesnt have a virus
[01:35] <Arafangion> lansing: There are very few, arguably none, actual linux viruses in the wild.
[01:35] <JamesSane> bowman: i did that Ctrl-alt F1, seems to have gone into bash.. i run the update.. but still get the error : appear to be running an X server..
[01:35] <wickedpuppy> lansing, have you googled for "linux antivirus" ?
[01:36] <Jowi> AJ-- press [escape]  then type :q [enter] 
[01:36] <lansing> ok then how come my computer is screwin up then
[01:36] <Arafangion> mewt: Well, by default it shows you a list of everything your system is connected to.
[01:36] <wickedpuppy> JamesSane, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:36] <Arafangion> mewt: And the traffic goign through.
[01:36] <mewt> Arafangion, does it resolve ips to hostnames ?
[01:36] <mewt> automatically
[01:36] <Arafangion> mewt: It can, yes.
[01:37] <s_spiff> can some1 suggest a good substitute for gaim on gnome? gaim 1.5 is irritating!
[01:37] <Arafangion> mewt: Just a moment while I install it (I usually only run this on my gateways)
[01:37] <JamesSane> wickedpuppy: perfect.. im going to have to write that one down.. thanks
[01:37] <AJ--> Jowi : tnx a lot
[01:37] <thoreauputic> mewt: sudo iftop -BP -i eth0
[01:37] <wickedpuppy> JamesSane, i suggest you look into /etc/init.d ...
[01:37] <Jowi> AJ-- the file was not saved before quitting btw.
[01:37] <lansing> hey wickedpuppy wats this mean  NP_Initialize
[01:37] <lansing> totem_plugin_new_instance
[01:37] <lansing> Init scriptable instance
[01:37] <lansing> mode 1
[01:37] <lansing> Segmentation fault
[01:37] <Arafangion> s_spiff: For what?
[01:38] <JamesSane> wickedpuppy: any suggestions as to a good place to start?
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> lansing, no idea .. i never use totem .. vlc for me :P
[01:38] <s_spiff> Arafangion, for msn / yahoo
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> JamesSane, /etc/init.d ?
[01:38] <nickb_ldn> hello
[01:38] <lansing> vlc?
[01:38] <Arafangion> s_spiff: I use bitlbee, and my favorite irc client, but that's me.
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> lansing, videolan.org ... i use it for both my windoz and linux
[01:39] <s_spiff> available on synaptic?
[01:39] <nickb_ldn> I am going to install ubuntu onto a slightly old laptop tomorrow, I was wondering if there is a super slim version of ubuntu that would be good to use, or if I can use Xubuntu, but not bother with a desktop manager?
[01:40] <bowman> JamesSane: I need to leave, good luck :)
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> nickb_ldn, you can also do not use X at all .. but thats extreme for most users..
[01:40] <Arafangion> nickb_ldn: Xubuntu is probably the best bet, even with the DE.
[01:40] <JamesSane> bowman: thanks for your help
[01:40] <Arafangion> nickb_ldn: But if even that's too slow, try using IceWM instead of the DE.
[01:40] <mewt> Arafangion, ok this is strange, i mean, this is a game server but there are currently no players on
[01:40] <bowman> JamesSane: my pleasure. cu :)
[01:40] <mewt> Arafangion, however i keep on getting a stream of addresses that are conencted to the server
[01:40] <Buglouse> where does GAIM Default install?
[01:40] <mewt> probably server browsers tbh
[01:41] <JamesSane> bowman: just to let you know; it was the graphics card
[01:41] <Arafangion> mewt: Well, one would be this irc server.
[01:41] <JamesSane> bowman: just updated it.. and now its full screen
[01:41] <mewt> no no, im not conencted to irc from the server
[01:41] <mewt> im on irc from my home pc
[01:41] <mewt> the server is co locate
[01:41] <mewt> d
[01:42] <Kejk_PL> Hi, how to revert ALL changes made by upgrade from dapper-proposed? I know that I can choose version in aptitude for example, by I don't know what packages were in that repository (I checked Packages.gz, but I'm not sure that it is all). So my question - it can be done to do something like: removing repository and revert al packages to avaiable version in working repositories??
[01:42] <reader> hi
[01:42] <nickb_ldn> Arafangion: I usually use Fluxbox, I'd just like an install where I have a finer granularity of control over what is installed
[01:42] <Arafangion> mewt: netstat is the canonical program to view all connections, even to file sockets.
[01:42] <Arafangion> nickb_ldn: Try Debian.
[01:42] <JamesSane> has anyone had trouble with a USB mouse freezing at random times? and does anyone know how to fix it?
[01:42] <nickb_ldn> Arafangion: yeah, I might give it a shot
[01:42] <Arafangion> nickb_ldn: Just don't use Sid.
[01:43] <nickb_ldn> Arafangion: I'm not *that* hardcore ;-)
[01:43] <mewt> Arafangion, that solves it then, they are game server browsers probably hammering on the server while refreshing game lists
[01:43] <Arafangion> mewt: Quite likely.
[01:43] <Arafangion> mewt: Keep in mind, I'm not sure if it shows UDP connections.
[01:43] <Arafangion> mewt: (Because UDP doesn't have a concept of a "connection")
[01:43] <mewt> i think it does
[01:43] <Arafangion> mewt: Nice.
[01:43] <mewt> or else they are half open connections then
[01:44] <Arafangion> mewt: Hit "p" to show the ports.
[01:44] <mewt> since from netstat all i get is Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
[01:44] <mewt> tcp        0      0 cod2master.activi:59183 cod2master.activi:45470 ESTABLISHED
[01:44] <mewt> tcp        0      0 cod2master.activi:45470 cod2master.activi:59183 ESTABLISHED
[01:44] <mewt> tcp6       0    128 ::ffff:89.17.128.24:ssh c170-183.i02-3.on:50395 ESTABLISHED
[01:44] <mewt> udp        0      0 89.17.128.249:36425     ns1.ittltd.com:domain   ESTABLISHED
[01:44] <mewt> udp        0      0 89.17.128.249:36427     ns2.ittltd.com:domain   ESTABLISHED
[01:44] <Arafangion> mewt: '?' to show the help.
[01:44] <mewt> the rest are streams then
[01:44] <Arafangion> mewt: Those are all TCP connections.
[01:44] <mewt> exactly
[01:45] <mewt> aaa ports nails it, most requests in iftop are from port 28960 which the default call of duty 2 port
[01:46] <mewt> ports above 36600 are used for dns requests ?
[01:46] <mewt> from the source pc ?
[01:46] <JamesSane> Does anyone know how to stop a USB mouse from freezing at spontaneous times?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> mewt: please use pastebin for pasting
[01:47] <Arafangion> mewt: TCP requires two ports - the source and destination.
[01:47] <mewt> gnomefreak, ok sorry
[01:47] <Arafangion> mewt: A very high port is nearly always used for the source.
[01:47] <Arafangion> (This is random)
[01:47] <Arafangion> mewt: You'll note that the destination, or here, "local" port, is "domain".
[01:47] <Jowi> anyone successfully installed dapper on intel mac-mini?
[01:47] <mewt> Arafangion, mm ic, i said so cos i have quite a number of requests from ports >33600 to domain
[01:48] <mewt> which is ports 50 i think
[01:48] <Arafangion> mewt: This is because port 53 is recorded in the file /etc/domain, so it can give you the human friendly name for the standard port.
[01:48] <Arafangion> mewt: /etc/services, rather.
[01:48] <mewt> Arafangion, ic, thanks
[01:48] <snowblink> JamesSane, used to have that problem on Hoary. Dapper has been fine
[01:49] <ntc> hey hey
[01:49] <ntc> please take a look at this thread
[01:49] <ntc> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276302
[01:49] <JamesSane> snowblink: thats what ive heard.. but it still shuts off.. like the light is on.. and i have to unplug and replug the mouse for it to work.. how did you fix it?
[01:49] <ntc> i've been looking for answers for a long time now!
[01:49] <cpk2> is there even a noticeable difference when you build from source? (performance and whatnot)
[01:50] <ntc> *no spam* http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276302 =)
[01:50] <ntc> im really curious
[01:50] <snowblink> JamesSane, actually, I switched from a laptop to a desktop when I did the move, so it could be related to hardware. I do remember reading something about certain USB ports.
[01:50] <XsesA> hello
[01:50] <XsesA> i have a question..
[01:50] <lansing> does the vlc play dvds
[01:51] <XsesA> i am windows user and i want to install linux also...anyway i heard the ubuntu is livecd, i can't really install it?
[01:51] <RazvanS> yes
[01:51] <XsesA> i can or can't?
[01:51] <Renski> it comes as both
[01:51] <ntc> XsesA, yes u can
[01:51] <el1984> sure you can
[01:51] <XsesA> oh
[01:51] <cpk2> XsesA: you can
[01:51] <RazvanS> u can
[01:51] <el1984> paff
[01:51] <XsesA> it's also livecd and also real installation?
[01:51] <Renski> yep
[01:51] <RazvanS> yes
[01:51] <el1984> yep
[01:51] <cpk2> XsesA: live cd means you can test to make sure it works before you install it
[01:51] <el1984> u start as livecd and can install it from
[01:51] <mnepton> ok kids, another work week done. enjoy your weekend.
[01:51] <XsesA> thank you :)
[01:52] <JamesSane> snowblink: yea thats strange.. cause every post on the web i have read was in relation to a laptop.. but im using a relatively new desktop.. and i have changed USB ports regularly.. it only seems to happen when i load a program.. but then again it doesn't do it all the time.. and then at random times too
[01:52] <Renski> well, there was the gentoo live cd, that was a total pain in the arse to install
[01:52] <davin>  mnepton: cheers you too
[01:52] <lansing> raz where u talkin to me
[01:52] <lansing> wen i asked that vlc plays dvds
[01:52] <XsesA> are there any important things to do after installing linux/
[01:52] <XsesA> ?
[01:52] <el1984> Renski:  imho knoppix livecd is also a little bit more complicated to install then ubuntu
[01:53] <davin> XsesA: Depends on what youre planning to do with your computer
[01:53] <cpk2> XsesA: probably learn how to use it? =)
[01:53] <XsesA> :D
[01:53] <cpk2> XsesA: for me the first thing i did was get media support
[01:53] <XsesA> i probably have no idea about linux
[01:53] <Renski> Ive never tried knoppix
[01:53] <Renski> whats it like?
[01:53] <XsesA> my bro should understand
[01:53] <lansing> how do i disable totem
[01:54] <cpk2> XsesA: what are you planning to use it for?
[01:54] <XsesA> well hear music
[01:54] <XsesA> watch movies
[01:54] <XsesA> and web work
[01:54] <davin> XsesA: Google up EasyUbuntu
[01:54] <XsesA> well i need anything but games :)
[01:54] <XsesA> games will stay on the windoiws
[01:54] <cpk2> ugh you do *not* need easy ubuntu
[01:54] <davin> XsesA: It will install all the nonfree multimedia codecs
[01:54] <XsesA> and i need the program to read ext3 from windows?
[01:54] <xavier> hi i installed xmms and then when i installed a plugin for xmms it gave an error at the end ..saying "xmms-config not found"
[01:55] <taratata> Hello i'm a french teenager
[01:55] <xavier> anybody know reasons for the "xmms-config not found" error ??
[01:55] <XsesA> which program reads ext3 from windows?
[01:55] <ufk> how can i do that my system will start in text mode? it stoped in the middle of loading something and i can't see why
[01:55] <cpk2> XsesA: i think having windows read ext2 would be easier
[01:56] <XsesA> so i need to format into ext2 and not ext3?
[01:56] <timalot> xavier: u probably need the -dev package
[01:56] <xavier> ty timelot ... trying to find that
[01:56] <davin> taratata: Hey
[01:56] <cpk2> XsesA: i dont know, i never bothered having windows touch my linux drives, instead I just set up a shared network drive for them to shar data
[01:56] <cpk2> share too
[01:57] <davin> XsesA: Google 'ext3 windows'
[01:57] <davin> XsesA: I thought it was called Ext2fs
[01:57] <XsesA> some1 told me lifehacker i think
[01:57] <JamesSane> Anyone know how to fix a spontaneous USB mouse freeze in Dapper?
[01:58] <boyFromOZ> Hello
[01:58] <timalot> !xmms-dev
[01:58] <ubotu> xmms-dev: XMMS development static library and header files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 176 kB
[01:58] <boyFromOZ> Can you guys help me solve a simple problem ?
[01:58] <Jowi> JamesSane: not really.... but have you tried the mouse in another USB port?
[01:58] <cpk2> !ask
[01:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:59] <JamesSane> Jowi: i have tried it through both a usb hub, and the usb ports on the front of my box
[01:59] <boyFromOZ> Ok thanks! I have internet on Ubuntu, but it only works in Firefox, if I try GAIM, or IRC etc, nothing happens !!!
[01:59] <boyFromOZ> Specially annoying because I want to get Synaptics to work !
[01:59] <theplatypus> getting an error when attempting to extract an archive" gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[01:59] <theplatypus> starseed: Child returned status 1
[01:59] <theplatypus> starseed: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[01:59] <Jowi> JamesSane: any other USB devices connected?
[01:59] <theplatypus> "
[02:00] <[G] Yoni> check?
[02:00] <cpk2> theplatypus: so maybe its not a gunzip?
[02:00] <boyFromOZ> Any ideas ???
[02:00] <theplatypus> cpk2 : DenyHosts-2.5.tar.gz ?
[02:01] <timalot> theplatypus: type file <filename i want to know about>
[02:01] <[G] Yoni> xsessa
[02:01] <gyro54> boyfromOZ are you sure firefox is working it may only be cache pages
[02:01] <theplatypus> cpk2 : DenyHosts-2.5.tar.gz
[02:01] <JamesSane> jowi: umm i have the usb hub, with nothing in it. a printer out of the front one.. and i just unplugged a USB bluetooth that was used for my Logitech bluetooth keyboard and mouse i was using with windows
[02:02] <boyFromOZ> Gyro54: Absolutely sure mate, I can navegate, even post messages on forums etc...
[02:02] <[G] Yoni> xsesa?
[02:02] <cpk2> theplatypus: yes i saw that, did you try timalot's suggestion?
[02:02] <theplatypus> missed his suggestion
[02:02] <XsesA> yes yoni? :O
[02:02] <boyFromOZ> Gyro54: I can even ping stuff...
[02:02] <timalot> theplatypus: the file command will try and tell u what format a file is in
[02:03] <cpk2> theplatypus: try file DenyHosts-2.5.tar.gz
[02:03] <boyFromOZ> However, GAIM and IRC (the text mode irc client) never connect... Same happens to Synaptic
[02:03] <ntc> hey
[02:03] <theplatypus> lol
[02:03] <timalot> theplatypus: but generally the comman tar -zxf <filename> will unpack the tar/gzipped file
[02:03] <Shadowpillar> boyFromOZ: are you on a lan with a proxy?
[02:04] <ntc> anyone knows why my "consolechars" give me this
[02:04] <ntc> set_kernel_font: Invalid argument
[02:04] <ntc> ?
[02:04] <rambo3> boyFromOZ, did you install clean ubuntu . or just some packages
[02:04] <theplatypus> its telling me that its an html document lol
[02:04] <boyFromOZ> Shadowpillar : Nope, I am connected through my router which uses DHCP
[02:04] <timalot> theplatypus: looks like the dload f*cked up
[02:04] <Shadowpillar> hrmm
[02:04] <boyFromOZ> rambo3: I installed it from a iso file I got from the net...
[02:05] <boyFromOZ> Latest one, 6.06 I think
[02:05] <rambo3> boyFromOZ, did you setup port forwarding  in router ?
[02:05] <boyFromOZ> I just recently changed the modprobe.d/alias files to stop using IPV6, which made my internet a zillion times faster.
[02:05] <theplatypus> timelot: that makes sense. the first time I used wget and got that error, then tried a manual dl with the same result. ce la vie thanks for your help
[02:06] <boyFromOZ> Rambo3 : No I didn't ...
[02:06] <boyFromOZ> Rambo3: Should I have to ???
[02:07] <yezi> hello ,everyone!i come here first time.
[02:07] <gyro54> I only have port forwarding for wow?
[02:07] <rambo3> boyFromOZ, well not "neceserly<- cant spell "if  its setup already , google port forwarding router synatpic
[02:08] <xavier> many packages like flash plugin, java, thunderbird, "xmms-dev" etc give errors during installing :( any specific reasons?
[02:09] <boyFromOZ> rambo3 : any specific pages?
[02:11] <lansing> hey wickedpuppy ive got a problem
[02:11] <mike> need help here.. how do i make fluxbo work?
[02:11] <Jaak_> why can't i install the mythtv packages?
[02:11] <boyFromOZ> Maybe I broke my Synaptics ???
[02:12] <lansing> that vlc locked up my system and i had to restart
[02:12] <rambo3> boyFromOZ, does apt work?
[02:12] <rambo3> !info mythtv dapper
[02:12] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB
[02:13] <rambo3> !info myth-video
[02:13] <ubotu> Package myth-video does not exist in any distro I know
[02:13] <JamesSane> thanks all for your help
[02:13] <rambo3> !fluxbox > mike
[02:13] <lansing> !info vlc
[02:13] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[02:14] <lansing> help plz my sources list is empty
[02:15] <lansing> and all i did was installed vlc
[02:15] <Seveas> !sources > lansing
[02:15] <lansing> for breezy?
[02:17] <Jaak_> mythtv packages keep saying they are not installable, i don;t understand...
[02:18] <davin^afk> lansing: you awnt me to upload a generated sources.list?
[02:18] <boyFromOZ> Rambo3: APT ???
[02:18] <lansing> plz for breezy if no trouble
[02:18] <boyFromOZ> Rambo3: Maybe something wrong on my IPTABLE ?
[02:18] <davin^afk> lensing: Well I have the dapper stock sources.list..
[02:18] <rambo3> Jaak_, you should visit mythtv wiki for ubuntu
[02:19] <lansing> o ive got breezy
[02:19] <rambo3> boyFromOZ, : apt-get update
[02:19] <boyFromOZ> Rambo3: lemme try...
[02:19] <davin^afk> lensing: sorry
[02:19] <rambo3> BoyBlunder, sun it with sudo
[02:19] <Pistahh> hello. I would like to listen to mp3s so that there is no scatter when I switch desktops. How to do that?
[02:19] <lansing> np
[02:20] <rambo3> Jaak_, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation
[02:20] <wwwiz> how to move trash on the desktop???
[02:20] <boyFromOZ> Rambo3: Hummm... interesting, seems to stop at the same point as Synaptics...
[02:20] <rambo3> what point
[02:20] <xavier> hi i get a permissions error when i try to install a xmms plugin .. it says the following :: /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/lib/xmms/Effect/libeq.so': Permission denied ... any ideas as to why?
[02:21] <boyFromOZ> Rambo3: Says : 66% connecting to archives.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)
[02:21] <lansing> nvm got them back
[02:21] <lansing> wow that was weird
[02:21] <boyFromOZ> Rambo3: On Synaptics, it would always stop at the 5th element...
[02:22] <rambo3> boyFromOZ, you have proxy
[02:22] <noiesmo> boyFromOZ, the problem is dns the ip address is not (1.0.0.0) thats prob ur router
[02:22] <noiesmo> boyFromOZ, or modem
[02:22] <boyFromOZ> Rambo3: No, well if I do, I am unaware of it... Tip on fixing ?
[02:22] <rambo3> read what noiesmo posted
[02:22] <lansing> another question y would vlc freeze my computer
[02:23] <wwwiz> how to move trash on the desktop???
[02:23] <protos> can anyone help a n00b with internet connection problem on LAN?
[02:23] <boyFromOZ> Rambo3: Posted here in the channel or at a forum ?
[02:24] <noiesmo> boyFromOZ, the problem is dns the ip address is not (1.0.0.0) thats prob ur router
[02:24] <noiesmo> boyFromOZ, or modem
[02:24] <boyFromOZ> noiesmo, thanks, but how do I fix it? Maybe a DNS is resolving the name to the wrong ip address ???
[02:25] <protos> with windows i need no configuration to have internet working - it conencts automatically through NIC to the apartment builiding LAN. No luck with ubuntu :(
[02:25] <boyFromOZ> noiesmo: And if that is the prob, why doesn't GAIM work either... ?
[02:26] <protos> i.e when i do a clean install of XP it works without any config
[02:26] <noiesmo> boyFromOZ, you need to check /etc/resolv.conf and see whats there if you obtain your ip automatically from ur modem/router then the dns show come with however i have found d-link to have this issue and havent found a perminent fix
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> protos, usb modem or rj45 ?
[02:27] <protos> rj45
[02:27] <protos> all my isp asked from me was the MAC #
[02:27] <noiesmo> boyFromOZ, if your know your isp dns ip address you can add it to your resolv.conf and then your dns should work
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> protos, the is your card recognised ? lspci
[02:28] <wwwiz> how to move trash to the desktop???
[02:28] <protos> it shows the eth0 i think it is called. sorry first time on linux today
[02:28] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> hii all :) ... i need some help
[02:28] <boyFromOZ> noiesmo: Should I try to add the DNS of "Open DSN" directly to my router ???
[02:28] <protos> and i went to the network config and made sure it was 'activated' and set to 'dhcp'
[02:28] <wickedpuppy> protos, then can you ping google ?
[02:28] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> i installed ubuntu using the cd.... (dont have a dvd drive...) now i've got a dvd image of ubuntu with me and would like to intall packages using the iso.....
[02:29] <noiesmo> boyFromOZ, you will find the router has got the right dns its not being passed to ur system and what is being passed is not right
[02:29] <mike> how do i uninstall fluxbox?
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, use synaptic
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> mike, how did you install it ?
[02:29] <noiesmo> boyFromOZ, is it a d-link
[02:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> i tried mounting it but the package manager didnt detect it :( i'm a noob at this stuff... can u please help me out?
[02:29] <wwwiz> how to move trash to the desktop???
[02:29] <mike> sudo apt-get install fluxbox?
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> mike, then sudo apt-get remove fluxbox ...
[02:29] <wwwiz> how to move trash icon to the desktop???
[02:30] <mike> i dont really wanna remove it but theres an error
[02:30] <Danny> any gnome guru's here?
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> mike, then ask about the error ?
[02:30] <mike> it says home/mike/.fluxbox/startup access denied
[02:30] <Danny> gurus ^
[02:30] <Pistahh> Danny: bad question.
[02:30] <Danny> heh
[02:31] <elmargol> wwwiz: gconf-editor
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> mike, ls -l /home/mike/.fluxbox/startup .. who is the owner ?
[02:31] <mike> me
[02:31] <mike> im a noob sorry
[02:31] <Danny> fluxbox eh ... well
[02:31] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> wickedpuppy ,can i make it get the packages off the iso... or will have to dl all the packages ?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> mike, ls -l /home/mike/.fluxbox/startup .. paste the line here pls
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, clearly cd drive can't read dvd ...
[02:32] <mike> w8 ill try it again
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, what package you want ?
[02:32] <Danny> hmm i want to know where the gtk2 stuff at gnome startup happens, because when i load gnome-panel / gnome-wm manually it seems to use some old gtk1+
[02:32] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> wickedpuppy , no i meant could i mount the iso and make synaptic think it was  a cd?
[02:32] <ben_underscore_> wwwiz: start the configuration editor
[02:33] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> wickedpuppy , blender ,gimp , inkscape....
[02:33] <elmargol> set /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, if you got synaptic why bother with dvd? unless you are installing all in dvd
[02:33] <lansing> hey wickedpuppy i need help with that vlc player
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, i suggest you get from repo ..
[02:33] <ben_underscore_> wwwiz: applications -> system tools --> configuration editor
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> lansing, how did you install it ?
[02:33] <wwwiz> ben_underscore_ , ok!
[02:33] <Perkabalo> hi im trying to install edgy eft from the live cd but i can't get past the partitition section, nothing happen after 50% :(
[02:33] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> wickedpuppy ,k thanks... i'll do that then :)
[02:33] <lansing> throu the site u provide me
[02:33] <ben_underscore_> wwwiz: once you've done that, go to apps --> nautilus --> desktop
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> lansing, i don't know what to say .. did you stop and search it in repo first ?
[02:34] <lansing> i followed everything the site told me
[02:34] <ben_underscore_> wwwiz: and then make sure you've checked the boxes for all the things you want visible. it should be like this by default but for some reason it's not
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> lansing, what is the package name that you downloaded and how did you install it .... more info pls
[02:35] <wwwiz> ben_underscore_ , thanx!
[02:35] <ben_underscore_> wwwiz: my pleasure.
[02:35] <lansing> um ill check
[02:35] <wwwiz> ben_underscore_ , i get it! Thanx!
[02:35] <ben_underscore_> wwwiz: it's much more elegant like that, like on mac os x
[02:36] <Lemino> anyone who knows how to get swedish letters in disc-cover?
[02:36] <lansing> this one VLC media player 0.8.4-svn20040920 Janus
[02:36] <protos> Firefox says server not found. Will this help --> $ sudo dhclient eth0
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> lansing, xan tell me how did you get it?
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> can*
[02:36] <Danny> when i start gnome using ubuntus gnome x-session it starts using gtk2 ... when i start ./gnome-session manually, it starts gtk1 ... the predefined x session does nothing else than starting ./gnome-session. i am a bit confused ...
[02:36] <lansing> through the term
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> lansing, how ? command ? pls pls pls give more info pls ... you are not helping me with vague answers
[02:38] <boyFromBrisbane> rambo3 : That did the trick mate.
[02:38] <jpfarias> hi!
[02:38] <jpfarias> how can I configure apt so it won't update kernel on a apt-get upgrade?
[02:39] <boyFromBrisbane> rambo3: Thank you very much, I went into resolv.conf and changed the ip address (which was my router's) to the primary DNS one from Open DNS and I could update through apt.
[02:39] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> i've just started using linux.... is this a good place to start learning form ? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper ?
[02:39] <boyFromBrisbane> rambo3: Now to the next battle... trying to get wireless working !
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, yup ...
[02:39] <resolve> hi guys. i'm asking here in a last ditch hope before i blow away ubuntu and install debian again. i need japanese input support via uim or scim. i need emacs-snapshot or a CVS emacs. under ubuntu and xorg 7.1 these don't work together, but they work fine under debian and 7.1. apparently gentoo has the same problem as ubuntu. i've scoured the net looking for answers, but found nothing. has anyone experienced something like this?
[02:39] <lansing> i made sure i had universe active then i typed sudo apt-get update then
[02:39] <AJ--> hi i have a gforce4MX 440 in my PC which is running in ubuntu.. but i cant set the resolution to 1024... how should this be done?
[02:40] <protos> wicekpuppy check private
[02:40] <TheFriedGeek> Hello all.
[02:40] <lansing> sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> protos, i get no pm from you ...
[02:40] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> wickedpuppy , thanks :)  nice to see that the comunity here is helpful too :)
[02:40] <jpfarias> hi guys. how can I configure apt so it won't update kernel on a apt-get upgrade?
[02:40] <cyber_brain_mfkg> somebody knows how to setup tv drivers/tuner for Kworld bt878 tv card?
[02:40] <lansing> thats how i got it
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> lansing, so it should be in application -> multimedia .. so the problem is ? error pls
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> np GreyGhost-Ubuntu
[02:41] <TheFriedGeek> How can I get grub working with XP installed on first partition?
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> sorry ... application -> sound and video
[02:41] <lansing> it has line all over the video screen then my desktop then it locks my computer to where i have to restart
[02:42] <AJ--> hi i have a gforce4MX 440 in my PC which is running in ubuntu.. but i cant set the resolution to 1024... how should this be done?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> lansing, can't help there ... my vlc got no such error
[02:42] <TheFriedGeek> AJ I had a similar problem, I had to run the X config tool and include that res in my monitor profile.
[02:43] <AJ--> TheFriedGeek how should that be done? manualy configure the xorg.conf? change the res to 1024?
[02:43] <TheFriedGeek> AJ: Let me see...
[02:43] <lansing> well i dont know how to explain it
[02:43] <timalot> TheFriedGeek: didnt it pick up the XP partition on installation?
[02:44] <tree> im looking fo ra cd burner soft, any suggestions?? google is finding lots of questions, but no download links
[02:44] <tree> brazilians here?
[02:44] <chacara> hop
[02:44] <stojance> I need to convert .avi file to an .mpg or .mpeg file. Can someone help, advise?
[02:44] <TheFriedGeek> Timalot: I had partitions like this.. [unpart space] [EX3 Ubuntu] [Linux Swap] 
[02:45] <TheFriedGeek> And I installed XP after Linux, I had to get the SATA drivers working first.
[02:45] <TheFriedGeek> Now I'm parted like [XP] [ubuntu] [linux swap] 
[02:45] <timalot> TheFriedGeek: ok ... i see this is my /boot/grub/menu.1st entry for my windows partition which is 1st on the drive
[02:46] <mapleoin> my computer totally freezes after i spend a while in linux, either in cli or X, it won't even respond to ctrl+alt+del and i have to use the power button to turn it off, could anybody give me a hint as to where this problem is coming from?(graphics card, ram?)
[02:46] <timalot> title Windoze
[02:46] <timalot>         rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[02:46] <timalot>         makeactive
[02:46] <TheFriedGeek> AJ: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:46] <timalot>         chainloader +1
[02:46] <stojance> It's not ctrl+alt+del to restart X. It's ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:46] <stojance> !!!
[02:46] <ben_underscore_> stojance: i have used the mencode utility to do it
[02:47] <resolve> mapleoin: use memtest86 and prime95 to test if it's a hardware problem
[02:47] <stojance> ok
[02:47] <mapleoin> resolve, ok
[02:47] <resolve> ubuntu comes with mem86, you can get prime95 for linux for free if you google
[02:47] <TheFriedGeek> timalot: I'm sorry I didn't see anything come over (?)
[02:47] <AJ--> i did that already TheFriedGeek.. now my resolution is 800x600
[02:47] <ben_underscore_> stojance: it is pretty cool, but the command line arguments are fairly complex. you get it as part of the mplayer package
[02:47] <noiesmo> stojance, heres a onliner mencoder input-file.avi -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video:vbitrate=1500 -vf scale=320:240 -of mpeg -o test1.mpg
[02:47] <AJ--> how can i set it to 1024
[02:48] <stojance> can someone help. I really need to to this. AVI to MPEG, or AVI to Theora
[02:48] <noiesmo> onliner/ oneliner
[02:48] <stojance> ok
[02:48] <ben_underscore_> noiesmo: well done
[02:48] <tree> is it possible to install ubuntu without burning a ISO?
[02:48] <noiesmo> uesd it before
[02:48] <timalot> TheFriedGeek: u have to add an entry to the /boot/grub/menu.1st ... then run  grub-install
[02:48] <stojance> ok, so I need to install mplayer
[02:48] <TheFriedGeek> In one of the later steps in that setup there is a place where you set your monitor's profile and you choose the best resolution supported by that montitor. Mine was only set to 1024 by default but you can choose higher ones on the list.
[02:49] <noiesmo> stojance, yeah mencoder shou;d come with otherwise sudo apt-get install mplayer mencoder
[02:49] <noiesmo> you'll also need codecs
[02:49] <timalot> !pastebin
[02:49] <lansing> do i have to setup the vlc befor i use it or disable totem
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:49] <stojance> ok, downloading
[02:49] <TheFriedGeek> timalot: hmmm... ok. (poking around)
[02:50] <ben_underscore_> stojance: and from what i remember the codecs are different to the gstreamer ones you install via synaptic ... well obviously
[02:51] <timalot> TheFriedGeek: the entry in my menu.1st file for windows is pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26593/
[02:51] <AJ--> TheFriedGeek: the highest set i see in the setting is only 1024 :(
[02:51] <stojance> 
[02:51] <TheFriedGeek> timalot: thanks I'll check this out.
[02:51] <ben_underscore_> stojance: i think they have a link on the mplayer page to a .tar.gz file of many codecs for things like wav, mpeg, etc
[02:51] <noiesmo> stojance, this one should make mpeg dvdauthor useable mencoder input-file.avi -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -vf scale=720:576,harddup -srate 48000 -af lavcresample=48000 -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxrate=9800:vbitrate=5000:keyint=15:acodec=ac3:abitrate=192:aspect=16/9 -ofps 25 -o PALDVDwide.mpg
[02:51] <stojance> , 
[02:52] <stojance> :D
[02:52] <noiesmo> ;0
[02:52] <noiesmo> ;0
[02:52] <noiesmo> ;)
[02:53] <TheFriedGeek> AJ: Hmm. Did it offer to auto detect your monitor at some point?
[02:53] <resolve> no japanese users on the channel?
[02:54] <AJ--> The_Machine nope..
[02:55] <AJ--> TheFriedGeek: nope it doesnt
[02:56] <resolve> oh well, thanks anyway. back to debian. :-)
[02:58] <sonium_> does anyone know what a "UI selector" is?
[02:58] <ben_underscore_> sonium_: in what context?
[02:58] <sonium_> I did a bug report an they asked me "you use edgy? what selector for the UI do you use?"
[02:59] <sonium_> in the context of gnome-sound-properties
[02:59] <sonium_> i think
[02:59] <ben_underscore_> sonium_: dunno!? sorry, i thought is may have been a programming question
[03:00] <gnomefreak> sonium_: what user interface do you use to go to gnome-sound-properties i would image
[03:00] <gnomefreak> imagine*
[03:00] <Eldin> Hello :)
[03:00] <gnomefreak> sonium_: kde gnome i would assume
[03:00] <sonium_> but gnome-sound-properties _is_ the interface o_O
[03:00] <davin^afk> cant
[03:01] <sonium_> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/44101 <- that's the whole story
[03:01] <gnomefreak> sonium_: not really qt and gtk draw windows differnetly
[03:01] <sonium_> but gnome only uses gtk afaik
[03:02] <gnomefreak> sonium_: sort of
[03:02] <gnomefreak> sonium_: give me a min let me ping seb and ask him what he means
[03:02] <Eldin> Err, can I just ask questions here or is that a faux pas?
[03:02] <sonium_> just ask Eldin
[03:03] <Eldin> OK
[03:03] <sonium_> but don't expect an answer ;)
[03:03] <Eldin> Ah, just like real life then >.>
[03:03] <gnomefreak> sonium_: how ar eyou opening it?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> s/ar eyou/are you
[03:03] <Eldin> Well, I just installed Ubuntu a few days and after several long sessions of googling around set it up as I wanted it.
[03:04] <timalot> sweet
[03:04] <sonium_> gnomefreak: in this case I opened it from bash, but actually I didn't seem to matter
[03:04] <npodges> what kernel should i use for dual athlon mp cpus?
[03:05] <timalot> npodges: k7 ?
[03:05] <Eldin> But now I want to reformat my XP partition and get a smaller 2000 install so I can do some university stuff without having to resort to WINE
[03:05] <ben_underscore_> npodges: is that a 64 bit cpu?
[03:05] <npodges> no
[03:05] <npodges> it's like the athlon xp
[03:05] <npodges> but there are two of them
[03:05] <npodges> on one motherboard
[03:05] <Eldin> But really, how do you format a hard disk at all in Ubuntu? *shame*
[03:05] <npodges> eldin, sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:05] <npodges> then run gparted
[03:06] <npodges> or "fdisk /dev/hda"
[03:06] <gnomefreak> sonium_: there are 4 combo lists on the first tab and one on the second what one are you using
[03:06] <Eldin> Ok
[03:06] <Eldin> Thanks
[03:06] <npodges> the first way is the easy way*
[03:06] <timalot> Eldin: u want the windows partition to be the first
[03:06] <Eldin> gparted... *googles*
[03:07] <Eldin> timalot: Why would I want to do that?
[03:07] <sonium_> gnomefreak: wouldn't it make more sense to talk directly with Seb?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> sonium_: join #ubuntu-bugs
[03:07] <timalot> Eldin: well the last time i installed windoze it doesnt like it if it is not on the first partition
[03:07] <ben_underscore_> npodges: i have a dual centrino and use the linux-686-smp kernel
[03:08] <jmspeex> What's the status of Edgy? Is it possible relatively safe to upgrade from Dapper?
[03:08] <ben_underscore_> npodges: more here http://dollarunderscore.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/setting-up-the-new-laptop-hp-dv2000/
[03:08] <Eldin> Well, unless Linux changed partitions around so its own is first (which I don't think it can?), I should be fine
[03:08] <Eldin> Because I now have a dual boot with xp on the original first drive
[03:08] <jmspeex> And is updating to Edgy simply a matter of changing the sources.list?
[03:08] <Juhaz> npodges, linux-image-*version*-k7?
[03:09] <timalot> !linux-image-k7
[03:09] <ubotu> linux-image-k7: Linux kernel image on AMD K7.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[03:09] <kmaynard> edgy is good and pretty, but it's unsupported....vmware and truecrpyt dont work with edgy's 2.6.17 kernel
[03:10] <jmspeex> kmaynard: how buggy is it?
[03:10] <kmaynard> im running a dekstop with edgy, but my servers will stay with dapper for most of the duration of the LTS
[03:10] <Eldin> Also, is it possible to remove a boot option from the booting screen?
[03:10] <kmaynard> Eldin, yes. edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:11] <jmspeex> kmaynard: what's the best way to upgrade? This is a new machine, so I'm not risking too much until I move my stuff over.
[03:11] <kmaynard> i did it through the update manager
[03:11] <kmaynard> !upgrade
[03:11] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:11] <timalot> !!
[03:11] <Eldin> kmaynard: thanks
[03:12] <kmaynard> Eldin, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/upgrading-ubuntu-from-dapper-to-edgy-with-update-manager/
[03:13] <jmspeex> While I'm at it, any idea why my xorg.conf file has 1920x1200 as the resolution, yet it only uses 1600x1200?
[03:13] <Ty> Hello, I just compiled wine from source, with the patches, put the dlls in folder, installed WoW, and now it comes up and I can see everything in front, like the buttons and such, but nonthing that would be in the background, like the game itself, can anyone help, appreciated
[03:14] <kmaynard> jmspeex, maybe your monitor doesnt support higher than 1600x1200, or you set your default to 1600 in gnome
[03:15] <Ty> hello?
[03:15] <kmaynard> hang on dude, we're looking
[03:15] <kmaynard> you want it any faster, try google
[03:15] <Ty> srorry, thank you
[03:16] <kmaynard> Ty, you may want to try #winehq
[03:16] <Ty> thanks, I will
[03:16] <kmaynard> or #cedega
[03:16] <Ty> alright
[03:16] <kmaynard> that's a very specific question, and those folks know a lot about it
[03:16] <kmaynard> more than me anyhoo
[03:16] <kmaynard> do you have cedega?
[03:17] <Ty> thanks for your help, If I find the answer, I'll post it in the forums, no I use Wine
[03:17] <jmspeex> kmaynard: the native resolution is 1920x1200 (it's a Dell D820 laptop). Gnome only offers me 1600x1200 although x.org has 1920x1200
[03:17] <kmaynard> cedega is based on wine, and built for gaming
[03:17] <Ty> Is it open-source?
[03:17] <Ty> free?
[03:17] <kmaynard> jmspeex, odd
[03:18] <kmaynard> dont think so...
[03:18] <kmaynard> i think its subscription
[03:18] <Ty> oh, ok
[03:18] <zool2005> Ty: Wine YES, Cegega NO
[03:18] <Ty> ok
[03:18] <no0tic> I have an external  usb disc ext3 formatted and when it's recognized it is mounted regularly on /media but the mount point owner is root and I can't write on it with a normal user without changing  permissions everytime, what can I do?
[03:19] <zool2005> no0tic; edit fstab
[03:19] <no0tic> zool2005, it is not in fstab
[03:20] <zool2005> no0tic: mtab?
[03:20] <no0tic> zool2005, mtab is temporary
[03:20] <protos> ok i tried to ping google - not working
[03:20] <Eldin> Hmm, apparently I have no root login
[03:20] <kmaynard> Eldin, you have sudo
[03:20] <protos> the server seems to be giving a DNS to use - but firefox still says can not find server
[03:21] <kmaynard> you can enable root, but a lotta folks get upset here when i say that
[03:21] <deamon> i
[03:21] <no0tic> zool2005, any other suggestion?
[03:21] <Eldin> kmaynard: Oh, I just found a description of how on Google
[03:21] <Eldin> That'd work
[03:21] <Eldin> Thanks :)
[03:21] <kmaynard> if you enable root, dont tell anyone
[03:21] <zool2005> no0tic: can you make an entry in fstab for it and point it to a specific folder in /media?
[03:21] <kmaynard> it ruffles feathers
[03:22] <deamon> hi to all
[03:22] <kmaynard> herro
[03:22] <zool2005> kmaynard; at first I used the root account following on from poor MS habits but now I use sudo exclusively. I have disabled the root acc
[03:22] <no0tic> zool2005, no, because the device file changes if I plug it in before or after other removable mass devices
[03:23] <Eldin> kmaynard: :O Why would it?
[03:23] <deamon> i forgotten to mount the hd whit windows during the installation of kubuntu there are a method to mout this partition?
[03:23] <no0tic> zool2005, i.e. if I plug it in before the ipod it takes /dev/sdb, if I plug it in after it takes /dev/sdc
[03:23] <no0tic> zool2005, understood?
[03:23] <kmaynard> zool2005, nearly every linux distro uses it. if you're responsible with it and only use as needed, you'll be ok. $0.02
[03:23] <zool2005> no0tic: yup!
[03:24] <zool2005> no0tic; create a new group with the mount command and add yourself to that group. (I'm not sure how to do it though :-) )
[03:25] <timalot> how many people remember the password for their root account ? ... i dont coz of the integration of sudo into ubuntu
[03:25] <no0tic> zool2005, the mount point is owned by root.root I don't want my normal user to be in the root group... :)
[03:26] <kmaynard> can you chown the files once its mounted?
[03:26] <quantik> Hi I am a newb, can I ask a question here?
[03:26] <kmaynard> ext3 should retain that, i would think
[03:26] <kmaynard> !ask > quantik
[03:26] <ben_underscore_> quantik: of course
[03:26] <zool2005> no0tic, create a new group and make it the owner of the mount point, then add your user to the new group
[03:27] <LjL> quantik: yes
[03:27] <protos> ok let me ask again. on my windows boot - the internet conection is automatic through my network card to the building's internet infrastructure. i do not need to configure anythin
[03:27] <no0tic> zool2005, the mount poit is created each time I plug it in and removed after unmounting by volume-manager
[03:27] <protos> in ubuntu it is not working. the eth0 is picked up
[03:27] <no0tic> zool2005, so probably I need to operate on volume-manager rules...
[03:27] <Jaga_> doesn't the ubuntu policy of not having a root password make it impossible to fix the system if one day it boots up in emergency "Give root password for maintenance:" mode?
[03:28] <zool2005> no0tic, you don't have any problems with the other peripherals
[03:28] <protos> it is even giving me the DNS to use
[03:28] <kmaynard> protos, ifconfig eth0  whats your ip?
[03:28] <no0tic> zool2005, no, it is the only external hd formatted in ext3 I have
[03:28] <Seveas> Jaga_, sulogin has been patched to not require a password at all
[03:28] <protos> i will try that
[03:28] <no0tic> zool2005, if I format it in fat32 it mounts with normal user permissions
[03:28] <Jaga_> Seveas, ah ok
[03:28] <Seveas> and no, this isn't a security leak
[03:29] <LjL> Seveas: just keep saying yourself that
[03:29] <ben_underscore_> LjL: ha ha
[03:29] <zool2005> no0tic, ah. That's probably out of my league! Seems strange that that happens based on format.
[03:29] <Leumas> i have a question about networked drives
[03:29] <Seveas> @lart ljl
[03:30] <timalot> Jaga_: i dont like how the recovery mode dumps u straight to a shell prompt.... no security
[03:30] <Leumas> if i shared a windows folder on my computer, that had an NTFS filesystem, could i send anything to it over the network in Ubuntu?
[03:30] <no0tic> zool2005, yes
[03:31] <no0tic> zool2005, thanks anyway
[03:31] <ben_underscore_> Leumas: do you mean can you write to a NTFS drive via Samba? Yes
[03:31] <kmaynard> Leumas, yes. network shares use SMB, not ntfs
[03:31] <Leumas> awesome :D
[03:31] <Jaga_> timalot, yeah. but most people's console security is non-existant anyway
[03:31] <Leumas> that's what i figured, just double checking
[03:31] <kmaynard> ntfs is how windows reads is
[03:31] <kmaynard> it
[03:31] <Leumas> thankyou
[03:31] <ben_underscore_> Leumas: it is really very efficient too
[03:31] <Leumas> yeah, that's why i wanted it to work that way
[03:31] <slipttess> hello
[03:32] <ben_underscore_> bye lads
[03:32] <slipttess> i have somehere problem in xsane no edgy eft
[03:32] <slipttess> :(
[03:32] <Eldin> Hmm, these words on some forums about the scariness of root access are getting to me. Any way to format a drive without having to resort to root if Ubuntu doesn't give you write access to the disk?
[03:32] <slipttess> print HP PSC1510 no scanner :(
[03:33] <kmaynard> protos, anything yet?
[03:33] <Leumas> Eldin: windows boot disk
[03:33] <Juhaz> timalot, physical console access thwarts all security
[03:33] <protos> kmaynard i am dual booting so i can not check now
[03:33] <Eldin> Leumas: meh :/
[03:33] <kmaynard> ah
[03:33] <Leumas> :D
[03:33] <Florob> Eldin: ehm sudo?
[03:33] <Leumas> sorry, i had to
[03:33] <protos> it is a bit annoying trying one or 2 things, then coming back to xp for support grrrrrrr
[03:33] <timalot> Juhaz: fair enough ... but whats the point of a password in normal mode if u can boot into recovery mode with a password
[03:34] <protos> disabling ipv6 will help?
[03:34] <timalot> s/with/without/
[03:34] <kmaynard> Eldin, if its a seperate drive, try qtparted. qtparted wont work if the drive is mounted
[03:34] <Eldin> sudo what? :(
[03:34] <Eldin> qtparted?
[03:34] <Eldin> *tries*
[03:34] <kmaynard> !qtparted
[03:34] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB
[03:34] <Florob> Eldin: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdXY OR use gksu gparted
[03:35] <kmaynard> protos, do you have ext3?
[03:35] <kmaynard> og yeah, i always forget gparted
[03:35] <protos> what is ext3?? sorry fresh out the box linux user here
[03:35] <kmaynard> your filesystem...its the ubuntu default, so you have it...
[03:36] <totall_6_7> ext3 is the fileformat for linux, like ntfs is for windows
[03:36] <protos> yes yes
[03:36] <kmaynard> protos, you can use this to see your ubuntu files so you dont have to reeboot quite as much  http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:36] <zool2005> does anyone have experience with Western Digital "My Book" external USB drives on Dapper?
[03:36] <protos> fresh partition with the fresh ubuntu live cd that came in the mail today
[03:37] <kmaynard> protos, are you connecting directly to a modem?
[03:37] <kmaynard> or thru a router>
[03:37] <Eldin> Florob: I assume mkfs.ext3 formats with an ext3 filesystem? Would it work for a windows partition afterwards?
[03:37] <protos> router i suppose. it is an aparment bulding with rj45 in every room
[03:37] <kmaynard> ah
[03:37] <LjL> Eldin: if you reformat it as NTFS or FAT, yeah
[03:37] <protos> but no authentication or anything
[03:37] <LjL> Eldin: you'd lose the data though
[03:38] <kmaynard> and networking didnt work by default?
[03:38] <protos> no
[03:38] <Florob> Eldin: Oh, ehm then it's mkfs.fat32 or something it depends what you want to have
[03:38] <tree> does kernel 2.4 comes wih built in cd recorder commands??
[03:38] <protos> but in xp it works immediatley after install - no setup
[03:38] <kmaynard> thats odd...linux is usually strongest with networking
[03:38] <Eldin> LjL: That's what this  format is supposed to be about :P
[03:38] <kmaynard> are you on a school network?
[03:38] <Eldin> Florob: Hmm, okay, that'llwork.
[03:38] <protos> in the list of dns servers - there is one there - the one it is being assigned i suppose. but even pinging this is impossible
[03:38] <boyFromOZ> YES !
[03:39] <protos> not a school network but a fairly tight resedential network
[03:39] <kmaynard> k
[03:39] <protos> all the building ISP asked of me was my MAC number
[03:39] <protos> no authentication at all - direct conection
[03:39] <kmaynard> you have im?
[03:39] <protos> yep
[03:39] <zool2005> can anyone personally recommend an external USB drive for backup?
[03:39] <timalot> protos: what does /etc/iftab have in it?
[03:40] <kmaynard> zool2005, and ipod? :-D
[03:40] <boyFromOZ> I am writing this from my Ubuntu !
[03:40] <kmaynard> 00t
[03:40] <boyFromOZ> Using wireless !!!
[03:40] <protos> will check timalot - will post after i reboot
[03:40] <kmaynard> w00t
[03:40] <BlueEagle> boyfromoz: Good stuff. :)
[03:40] <boyFromOZ> yes!
[03:40] <boyFromOZ> Thank you
[03:40] <protos> how do i check what is in /etc/iftab
[03:40] <boyFromOZ> many thanks for rambo3
[03:41] <BlueEagle> protos: sudo cat /etc/iftab
[03:41] <C-O-L-T> anybody has a canon i250 printer which works under ubuntu?
[03:41] <BlueEagle> protos: that should do it I guess. (requires a terminal ofcourse)
[03:41] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell c-o-l-t about anyone
[03:41] <jUggERNAUt1980> hiya!
[03:41] <protos> added to the list of things to try ;)
[03:41] <kmaynard> protos, you'd have to be in linux
[03:41] <Eclypse> hey you guys
[03:41] <Eclypse> quick question
[03:41] <Eclypse> is it possible to run a command after another?
[03:41] <kmaynard> protos, you use gnome or kde?
[03:41] <BlueEagle> eclypse: yes.
[03:41] <protos> gnome
[03:42] <tk> Eclypse: cmd1; cmd2
[03:42] <Eclypse> such as, sudo apt-get update, and then sudo apt-get install all in one line?
[03:42] <boyFromOZ> I think if you separate it with ;
[03:42] <Eclypse> heh
[03:42] <boyFromOZ> semicolons
[03:42] <Eclypse> hell yeah
[03:42] <Juhaz> timalot, well, it allows for user preferences, for one, not necessarily with any real security, but multiple people can use it without messing on each others' desktops. and probably puts off casual "opportunity makes a thief" -kind of intrusion. but if someone knows enough and can boot into recovery mode, then they probably also know that they can boot with init=/bin/sh or the like if recovery didn't work
[03:42] <Eclypse> thanks guys
[03:42] <kmaynard> Eclypse, sudo apt-get update && sudo ap-get upgrade all
[03:42] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm trying to share my internet connection with my friend's ubuntu box, but when i set up NAT routing and try to connect, i can't get out to the internet when both ethernet adapters are active.
[03:42] <kmaynard> toss the && between it
[03:42] <BlueEagle> eclypse: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:42] <jUggERNAUt1980> any thoughts on this?
[03:42] <Eclypse> what about sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[03:42] <Eclypse> :S
[03:42] <Eclypse> you guys are getting me mixed up
[03:43] <Eclypse> oh well
[03:43] <Eclypse> I'll try the &&
[03:43] <kmaynard> protos, have to used the network option under System | Administration ?
[03:43] <BlueEagle> eclypse: You would want to use && as it checks that the first command ended successfully before attempting to execute the second command.
[03:43] <quantik> ok, here it is, i'm trying to setup an ubuntu installation on my second HDD, no problem, everything went fine, except that ubuntu didnt recognize my modem, so no Inet connection from ubuntu. I kinda found a tutorial to patch the kernel, but it involves recompiling the kernel, and so use the apt-get to get build-essential... where do i get all of them with my win XP connection?
[03:43] <Eclypse> ic
[03:43] <protos> kmaynard - it is enabled. gateway is set to eth0
[03:44] <kmaynard> protos, but you are using the gui config?
[03:44] <protos> yes
[03:44] <BlueEagle> quantik: Which modem have you got?
[03:44] <quantik> alcatel speetouch PCI (itex apollo 2 based)
[03:44] <JoSh_> whats up people... where can i find a tutorial on setting up NFS on my ubuntu box so i can network my mac and all the other computers on my network together and use that box as the backup
[03:45] <timalot> Juhaz: you are probably right.... anyway u need to have passwords setup for network authentication etc.... but its just creepy to be able to boot straight to a root console
[03:45] <kmaynard> protos, ok.. make sure it's enabled and set to DHCP. write down your DNS from windows and put it in there too
[03:45] <kmaynard> there's prolly one little thing thats not checked or something
[03:46] <protos> i thought of that how can i find my windows dns??
[03:46] <Captain-Fungi> ipconfig /al
[03:46] <LjL> kmaynard: doesn't DHCP give you a DNS server as well usually?
[03:46] <Captain-Fungi> yes
[03:47] <quantik> so basically, my question is, how do i get all the necessary packages to recompile the kernel without acp-get?
[03:47] <kmaynard> LjL, yeah, but you can also specify one
[03:47] <kmaynard> like your ISP's
[03:47] <kmaynard> or, you could try using OpenDNS's servers
[03:47] <protos> default gateway, dhcp server and default gateway are the same
[03:47] <quantik> er apt-get...
[03:47] <Eldin> sudo mkfs doesn't seem to be working :S
[03:48] <bushblows> how would i mount a SCSI card with 2 HD's on it, i did sudo lspci and found the vednors name
[03:48] <protos> let me try it now - be back in 10
[03:48] <bushblows> vendor*
[03:48] <LjL> kmaynard: well you're right i guess, if the DNS is given by your router, and the DNS is actually your router, you might often want to change that =)
[03:48] <kmaynard> protos
[03:48] <protos> yep
[03:48] <kmaynard> try setting dns to OpenDNS's servers http://www.opendns.com/
[03:48] <LjL> quantik: well, you can get them manually from achive.ubuntu.com - you just have to work out the dependencies.
[03:49] <protos> k i will give that a go as well. thanks
[03:49] <BlueEagle> quantik: According to http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2002/q3/pci-roundup/ it seems that it is not supported at all. Where did you find the driver for it? What was the driver called?
[03:49] <tree> is it possible to install ubuntu from HD?
[03:49] <BlueEagle> quantik: (that review might be out of date, I know)
[03:49] <kmaynard> protos, go to windows control panel, right click your eth connection, select properties
[03:49] <LjL> tree: not in a straightforward way, but i guess you might try using VMWare
[03:50] <quantik> well i spent an evening surfing and it appears that someone has patched the original driver...
[03:50] <kmaynard> then cick Support tab, then Details. your DNS server is set there
[03:50] <kmaynard> or displayed
[03:50] <quantik> bklueeagle: http://jp.dhs.org/users/itex/2.6/
[03:50] <kmaynard> but if its just a DNS issue, opendns may be your answer
[03:51] <protos> kool
[03:51] <protos> checking the opendns stuff now
[03:51] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm having trouble in the ubuntu networking homeland.  can someone offer a solution or some advice?
[03:51] <Gasten> jUggERNAUt1980: explain your problem, please.
[03:51] <jlebrech> im having problems installing webapps on ubuntu edgy eft with synaptic can anyone help out, cheers
[03:52] <dv_> hi
[03:52] <LjL> !edgy > jlebrech
[03:52] <quantik> how do i know all the dependancies from build-essentiel, kernel-package,..?
[03:52] <jUggERNAUt1980> gasten, i'm trying to share my internet connection with my friend's ubuntu box, but when i set up NAT routing and try to connect, i can't get out to the internet when both ethernet adapters are active.
[03:52] <dv_> I have an external SATA harddisk, and I want to use it in ubuntu.
[03:52] <protos> brb
[03:52] <dv_> is there something like a tool for detecting and mounting new hard drives?
[03:52] <jlebrech> id like to show off some groupware apps by installing them on edgy, is this an edgy issue?
[03:52] <Eldin> None of the formatting suggestion seem to be working
[03:52] <XiXaQ> is it possible to isolate users on the same machine from each other, so that noone can see anything the other users have, etc_
[03:53] <Dr_willis> dv_,  its worth wile learning how to edit/mount/mess with the fstab :)  -
[03:53] <Gasten> jUggERNAUt1980: uhm... you have to go throgh a router.
[03:53] <Dr_willis> dv_,  what filesystem is on the drive now?
[03:53] <jUggERNAUt1980> gasten, i get my internet from ath0 (wifi), and am trying to connect through my wired connection to my buddy.
[03:53] <timalot> XiXaQ: unix was designed to be an *open* system .... so u are fighting the system there
[03:53] <dv_> Dr_willis, first: I dont want to edit the fstab just for occasional access to the hd.
[03:53] <Gasten> jUggERNAUt1980:  and is vlan involved in any way?
[03:53] <jUggERNAUt1980> gasten, i don't have a router.
[03:53] <Vuen> hey #ubuntu, can anyone help me configure my firewall?
[03:53] <Windwalker> does anybody have ASUS A8N-E NF4 PCI-E/Lan/Sata s.939???
[03:53] <dv_> the hd should be automounted just like a usb stick
[03:53] <jUggERNAUt1980> gasten, vlan?
[03:54] <Vuen> i'm opening all these ports for samba: 128 137-139 445 1105 1108
[03:54] <dv_> second, I dont want to have to fiddle around with mount for getting non-root access etc.
[03:54] <Dr_willis> dv_,  im not sure how well linxu handles removeing sata drives on the fly at this time.
[03:54] <dv_> reiserfs
[03:54] <Vuen> and yet it won't let me browse the network.
[03:54] <Vuen> it doesn't show any events blocked or anything.
[03:54] <dv_> Dr_willis, I dont want to remove it on the fly for now
[03:54] <Gasten> jUggERNAUt1980: so... how are you going to connect to internet throgh your comp?
[03:54] <Vuen> however if i turn the firewall off, it browses just fine.
[03:54] <Vuen> what's the deal?
[03:54] <LjL> jlebrech: if they don't install with apt-get or synaptic, and give weird errors, then yeah. edgy is experimental, you know. OTOH you might simply have to enable Universe perhaps...?
[03:54] <dv_> but I do want to be able to simply mount that thing without messing up the fstab
[03:54] <jUggERNAUt1980> gasten, i get my inet through wifi from open networks
[03:55] <kmaynard> Vuen, what firewall
[03:55] <dv_> in windows, I go to the volume manager, the hd is detected there (but disabled), I click on enable, and thats it, I have access
[03:55] <Gasten> ok.. and your buddy wants to cennect to that net over your comp?
[03:55] <Dr_willis> dv_,  use the mount command then?  as far as i know the tools all edit the fstab.   actually you may wan tto use 'sudo fdisk -l' to see if the drive is even seen correctly
[03:55] <kmaynard> you need to have inbound and outbound rules that match
[03:55] <Vuen> what do you mean, what firewall? i'm configuring it with firestarter
[03:55] <kmaynard> thats what i meant
[03:55] <dv_> Dr_willis, pmount does not
[03:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> gasten, correct.  i also want to be able to send him files.
[03:55] <dv_> Dr_willis, I could use the mount command, yes.
[03:55] <Vuen> k, but firestarter is not the firewall, it's just a config tool for iptables
[03:55] <Gasten> jUggERNAUt1980: I dont think that work, but I'm sure someone else kno how.
[03:55] <Windwalker> anybody has one of theme Mobos - ASUS A8N-E, ASUS K8N4-E SE, GigaByte K8N51GMF-9, GigaByte K8NE or GigaByte K8NF9
[03:56] <dv_> but I have to use it as root, which is ridiculous in this case,
[03:56] <quantik> for example, when i try to install the build-essential i dowloaded manually, it says "dependancy is not satisfiable; dpkg-dev"
[03:56] <Vuen> anyway it doesn't show any blocked events when i try to connect. but it's blocking something, because i can't browse
[03:56] <The_Machine> i constantly feel the urge to reboot my linux OS.  I don't feel it with windows (in fact, i haven't restarted it in months..).  What's wrong with me?
[03:56] <dv_> and since external HDs are not that rare, I think a GUI for this is a good idea
[03:56] <XiXaQ> jUggERNAUt1980, you want to be a gateway on your local network.
[03:56] <Gasten> jUggERNAUt1980: I would get a router and cennect it to wifi, then cennect both yours and his comp to it.
[03:56] <jlebrech> Ljl: universe is on. so a manual install is the option on eft?
[03:56] <Dr_willis> dv_,  if it has a reiserfs on it.. then the permissions may be restricted in any case. Im not sure you can mount the thing  in a way to override the permissions on the filesystem
[03:56] <Vuen> The_Machine, what possible reason could you have for rebooting? unlike windows, rebooting linux does basically nothing.
[03:56] <LjL> The_Machine: that you have administrative privileges, possibly ;P
[03:56] <The_Machine> :))
[03:57] <sou> oi
[03:57] <BlueEagle> !buid-essential
[03:57] <jUggERNAUt1980> gasten, i've read walkthroughs on the forums, so people have posted that they've gotten it to work, but they don't ever post their solutions.  just elation caused by getting it to work!  :P
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buid-essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <BlueEagle> !buid-essentials
[03:57] <kmaynard> vuen, do your inbound and outbound rules match?
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buid-essentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <The_Machine> Vuen - it's irrational
[03:57] <segfault_> dv_, u do donot need to use mount as root if u setup fstab correctly, use the options user to allow users to mount, also use noauto so drive isnt mounted automatically at boot time
[03:57] <Vuen> kmaynard, no, my outbound whitelists all
[03:57] <LjL> jlebrech: well, wait a moment. 1) what is the package you want?  2) can you put the errors that "sudo apt-get install whatever" gives you into the pastebin?
[03:57] <kmaynard> !build-essential
[03:57] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:57] <BlueEagle> thanks
[03:57] <kmaynard> Vuen, make matching rules, see if that helps
[03:58] <The_Machine> like, evolution wasn't picking up new messages.  Even after i would close and start it again (checking processes too).  And..  "rebooting helps" is the irrationality..?
[03:58] <Vuen> kmaynard, i can't make matching rules. i'm whitelisting by default, which means i can only block outgoing, not allow outgoing. they're already allowed.
[03:58] <kmaynard> dude. it doesnt work now. what's it gonna hurt?
[03:59] <kmaynard> can you not change it?
[03:59] <jUggERNAUt1980> XiXaQ, yes, i do want to be a gateway.  but when i set it all up and try to connect, i can't get out to the internet.
[03:59] <dv_> Dr_willis, I called  sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/sdb1 exthd/ -o users  but I had to find out the dev name (sdb1) and have to manually create a dir
[03:59] <Vuen> kmaynard, sure i can change it, but if i start blacklisting outgoing, it's gonna drop my from irc, i'm gonna have to start opening ports for every little thing...
[03:59] <Vuen> s/my/me
[04:00] <dv_> this is precisely what project utopia aimed to automate
[04:00] <jUggERNAUt1980> XiXaQ, it's almost as though when putting those settings into place, it wants to look through my wired connection for internet access instead of the wifi.
[04:00] <Dr_willis> dv_,  never heard of it.
[04:00] <kmaynard> Vuen, so if it doesnt work, put it back or turn it off. you want it to work, but you're not willing to try anything?
[04:00] <XiXaQ> jUggERNAUt1980, are you using network manager?
[04:00] <segfault_> dv_, if u seyup ur fstab correctly u would need only to do mount /mnt./dir as any user to mount ur drive
[04:01] <The_Machine> okay, how about this:  I am running ubuntu, and i'm doing everything on it that i would regularly do w/ my "other" OS.  But i want to learn more about linux so that I am being educated and improving my current knowledgebase.  Any suggestions on what i should do next?
[04:01] <dv_> Dr_willis, hal & dbus & pmount etc.
[04:01] <krazykit> The_Machine: mess something up ;-)
[04:01] <kmaynard> look up the rute tutorial
[04:01] <jUggERNAUt1980> XiXaQ, network manager can't see my wifi card.  it's an atheros 5212
[04:01] <kmaynard> LOL
[04:01] <Vuen> kmaynard, fine i'll try it, hold on
[04:01] <Dr_willis> I spend more and more time debugging/trouble shooting these 'makeing things easier for users idiot-proofing'
[04:01] <dv_> the system for automounting/autodetecting stuff like usb sticks
[04:01] <The_Machine> heh.  mess something up..  like what?
[04:01] <dv_> segfault_, this should not be necessary
[04:01] <jUggERNAUt1980> XiXaQ, so i just use network settings to select the wireless network.
[04:01] <The_Machine> oh, here's one
[04:01] <The_Machine> BACK something up.
[04:01] <The_Machine> that would be a good idea
[04:02] <dv_> also, what if the drive name changes, for example because I plugged in a usb stick first and is labeled sdb1?
[04:02] <kmaynard> The_Machine, http://www.chongluo.com/books/rute/
[04:02] <kmaynard> i used that, and learned a lot
[04:02] <dv_> I hope edgy has SATA-automounting/hotplugging support
[04:02] <The_Machine> how do i perform a backup where i would be able to completely restore my operating system and everything else
[04:02] <kmaynard> also, gentoo doesnt hurt
[04:02] <krazykit> The_Machine: nah, i'm kidding.  breaking stuff is a good (forced) way to learn, but you could play with the command line.  learn some shell scripting.  one-liners are good places to start
[04:02] <segfault_> dv_, u have to tell the machine to do something for it to do it, in windows u r used to a gui for everything, in linux u setup ur fstab correctly and use a single cmd
[04:02] <XiXaQ> jUggERNAUt1980, cant you select which interface should act as gateway or something?
[04:02] <Vuen> kmaynard, i changed it. still doesn't work
[04:02] <The_Machine> yeah, scripting
[04:02] <The_Machine> i need to learn that.
[04:02] <The_Machine> :)
[04:02] <jUggERNAUt1980> XiXaQ, ok how about this:  forget trying to get his system to see the internet:  i would just like to send him some filesthat i have on my system over a network connection.  how can i just connect to his system and share files?
[04:02] <The_Machine> i don't know anything about programming though
[04:02] <dv_> segfault_, so you say that the entire automounting system is useless?
[04:02] <jlebrech> Ljl: no errors, all ready installed. do you normally access installed webapps thru localhost
[04:03] <Dr_willis> dv_,  with edgy you can mount drives to speficic locations based on their drive label, and other UUID  information
[04:03] <kmaynard> Vuen, oh well, now you know...sry...
[04:03] <dv_> so everyone use dmesg and manually hunt for the device name of that usb stick or external hd?
[04:03] <The_Machine> kmaynard: i'll read it :)
[04:03] <krazykit> The_Machine: it's not really about programming, it's about doing common tasks easier.
[04:03] <Vuen> any other ideas?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> dv_,  i use sudo fdisk -l. actually with my usb sticks  gnome and kde auto mount the things with no help from me.
[04:03] <The_Machine> krazykit: doesn't that require knowledge of programming?
[04:03] <The_Machine> :)
[04:03] <Dr_willis> dv_,  i am guessing its not seeing the sata drive as a 'removeable' drive.
[04:03] <segfault_> dv_, automounting works quite well without touching fstab for hotpluggable devices, from what i gather u are not using such a device, devices which are present at boot need an entry in fstab to be mounted
[04:03] <Vuen> this is ridiculous. if the firewall is blocking things, why isn't it telling me? it's not registering any events when it blocks these things! aaarghh!
[04:03] <dv_> Dr_willis, yes, and I want this to happen with external hds as well
[04:04] <kmaynard> Vuen, ubuntuforums and google...
[04:04] <LjL> jlebrech: normally i simply don't use webapps. i can tell that the phpgroupware package is broken anyway, since it didn't install any database as a dependency (only a recommend, i suppose), but installation breaks when it doesn't find one
[04:04] <Dr_willis> dv_,  the issue here is its a external sata drive... i think.
[04:04] <dv_> segfault_, sata *is* hotpluggable
[04:04] <Vuen> kmaynard, how can i turn off my firewall permanently?
[04:04] <krazykit> The_Machine: no, not really.  like, if you want to back something up daily.  to write a little script and throw it into cron.  no "real" programming needed.  all my programming experience fits on a floppy disk.
[04:04] <dv_> ok, the kernel may not have this feature yet
[04:04] <Vuen> if i hit stop in firestarter and close it, will it stay that way?
[04:04] <dv_> but sata is capable of this
[04:04] <Dr_willis> My external usb hard drives auto mount fine
[04:04] <kmaynard> Vuen, isnt that an option in firestarter?
[04:04] <dv_> Dr_willis, yes, *usb*
[04:04] <dv_> but I have a sata connection
[04:04] <Dr_willis> dv_,  yes.. USB...
[04:05] <kmaynard> i dunno...i dont mess with iptables or firestarter...too much trouble
[04:05] <dv_> I could connect to it with usb as well, but transferring 28 gb with usb is not fun :)
[04:05] <kmaynard> i sit behind a router, poke a few holes in it, and secure my services...firewalls suck
[04:05] <kmaynard> software firewalls anyway
[04:05] <Vuen> kmaynard, yes, that's what i want as well
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Ive yet to even see an external sata drive yet. or esata cards either.. of course 6 mo ago..just isntalling to an internal sata drive could be an issue.
[04:05] <PingunZ> I just downloaded a .deb for firefox2rc1. It works great but its french, how do I set the language to english ?
[04:05] <Vuen> but how do i make sure it's not gonna start the firewall when i boot up?
[04:06] <erizo> hi
[04:06] <kmaynard> PingunZ, theres not an english deb?
[04:06] <segfault_> kmaynard, iptables is very good, in fact many routers use it as their firewall
[04:06] <kmaynard> Vuen, dunno...
[04:06] <Vuen> segfault_, can you help me with this thing?
[04:06] <kmaynard> segfault_, i know. thats why im happy to run it there :)
[04:06] <PingunZ> kmaynard, Not that I know .. but I just need to change the language ..
[04:07] <segfault_> Vuen, plz repeat ur question
[04:07] <bowman> heya. I've just done a Ubuntu server install - where do I get openswan etc.? they are not in the standard repositories
[04:07] <Vuen> oh, NOW it's registering events
[04:07] <Vuen> if i hit reload
[04:07] <ramvi> What's the default, open source driver used with ati-cards?
[04:07] <jUggERNAUt1980> how can i connect my box to another box and transfer files?
[04:07] <Vuen> for some reason they're not coming up as they happen
[04:07] <kmaynard> kmaynard, i downloaded the RC2 tarball from mozilla.com, unpacked it in /opt, and i run firefox from there....all in english
[04:07] <erizo> hello everybody... i have a problem with my winmodem, its a conexant winmodem, anybody knows how to make it work at 556k ? thanks a lot for your help
[04:07] <The_Machine> krazykit: how did you learn to write your first scripts?
[04:07] <Vuen> okay, new problem
[04:07] <protos> no luck :(
[04:07] <kmaynard> erizo, winmodem support in linux is crap. you may wanna look for an external modem
[04:08] <Vuen> samba is picking a random port in the 1000-1200 range to browse on
[04:08] <segfault_> erie, i may be wrong as i dont use a modem but i dont think winmodems are supported
[04:08] <Vuen> why isn't it just using the default port 139?
[04:08] <erizo> yes.. but i could make it work with hoary using hexedit
[04:08] <kmaynard> protos, yipe...could it be your netowrk admin?>
[04:08] <__gotcha> can someone tell me which package I should setup for a vnc server ?
[04:08] <Vuen> __gotcha, are you using gnome?
[04:08] <krazykit> The_Machine: uh... don't recall.  i suppose i had a task that i did fairly often and just wrote a script.  as my wants became more advanced, i figured out how to do it
[04:08] <kmaynard> __gotcha, tightvnc
[04:08] <erizo> i upgrade to dapper and only works at 14.4, i dont have a shope near me since i live in rural area, would be great to make it work at 56k
[04:08] <__gotcha> default ubuntu setup
[04:09] <kmaynard> __gotcha, you may also wanna look at www.nomachine.com
[04:09] <protos> contents of /etc/iftab - eth0 mac 00.13.ef.4d.b1.2f arp1   .   changing DNS server to opendns ones makes no difference. pinging the dns ip's is not succesful
[04:09] <The_Machine> give me an example of something you wanted to do often?
[04:09] <__gotcha> kmaynard: thanks
[04:09] <The_Machine> something really simple and often that you would have a need for such a thing
[04:09] <krazykit> The_Machine: backign stuff up over a network.  a combination of tar and netcat
[04:09] <The_Machine> hm.  okay.
[04:10] <krazykit> The_Machine: or even not-often stuff, like finding certain files and performing an action, like rm or mv
[04:10] <mcdonaldswes> is anyone else having problems with the us.archive.ubuntu.com servers?
[04:10] <protos> any other advice?
[04:10] <fouad> How can i use a package list i got from dpkg to install all my packages on a new system?
[04:10] <krazykit> mcdonaldswes: those servers have had problems since forever.  just get rid of the us.
[04:10] <kmaynard> mcdonaldswes, yes...just take off the us. then run apt-get update
[04:10] <mcdonaldswes> krazykit: ok, will do
[04:10] <segfault_> mcdonaldswes, i did a while back and i changed all to archive.ubuntu.com and no more issues
[04:11] <erizo> anybody know how to make latest conexant driver work at 56k and not only at 14k? thanks a lot
[04:11] <protos> i still can not access the internet in any way on my ubuntu install
[04:11] <kmaynard> protos, i have an idea
[04:11] <protos> ??
[04:11] <fouad> How can i use a package list i got from dpkg to install all my packages on a new system?
[04:11] <tree> wwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[04:11] <kmaynard> protos, is your ubuntu cd the live cd? with a desktop and all?
[04:12] <segfault_> fouad, reformat the list so it a list of pkgs seperated by spaces and use apt-get
[04:12] <protos> yes it is the livecd
[04:12] <kmaynard> did you test networking in it? like open firefox, or ping google?
[04:12] <protos> with the livecd ? you mean before installing?
[04:12] <kmaynard> yah
[04:12] <protos> no i did not. should i try that?
[04:13] <fouad> segfault_: is there a way to automatically do this? it is a very long list
[04:13] <segfault_> fouad, perl will easily do this
[04:13] <jUggERNAUt1980> i've been spending a lot of time on this issue, and just can't seem to get anywhere with it.
[04:13] <fouad> segfault_: well i don't know perl, only some basic bash and C
[04:13] <kmaynard> yeah. or try it with a knoppix cd. either way, if it works, take note of the network settings, then apply then in ubuntu.
[04:13] <protos> kmaynard should i try that? what diff would that make?
[04:14] <protos> ok will try that thanks a million kmaynard
[04:14] <segfault_> fouad, if know C u should be able to pick up enough perl to that fairly quickly
[04:14] <protos> cheers
[04:14] <__gotcha> kmaynard: how can I find the port itghtvncserver is listening on ?
[04:15] <fouad> segfault_: probably but i am very pressured over here, i need the PC ready so i can get back to my job
[04:15] <ramvi> Sorry, but what's the default, open source driver used with ati-cards in ubuntu?
[04:16] <fouad> ramvi: i think it's called ati
[04:16] <Dr_willis> ramvi,  'ati' - but for some cardsd ive had to use 'vesa'
[04:18] <timalot> apt-get install $(echo `cat my_file_separated_by_newlines`)
[04:18] <bowman> heya. I've just done a Ubuntu server install - where do I get openswan etc.? they are not in the standard repositories
[04:19] <jbaloul> hi guys
[04:19] <jbaloul> is there a way to determine if a box is 1 cpu hyperthreaded or 2 physical CPUS or cores from a terminal?
[04:19] <ramvi> thanks
[04:21] <timalot> jbaloul: cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[04:21] <jbaloul> nope...timalot....doesn't tell the difference between a hyperthreaded cpu and multiple phys cpu's ;-)
[04:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> i want to set up a LAN between two ubuntu boxes i have here.  can i have some help here?
[04:22] <jbaloul> anyone else have an idea...i tried dmesg, lshal, proc/cpuinfo
[04:22] <Rookie_> whats your prob ?
[04:23] <jbaloul> is there a way to determine if a box is 1 cpu hyperthreaded or 2 physical CPUS or cores from a terminal?
[04:23] <segfault_> jbaloul, to the kernel there is no difference
[04:23] <Pharao2k> Hi everyone, Could anyone tell me how to activate another network device? My server has 2 onboard nics, but only one is active and known, when I type ifup eth1, it says there is no eth1
[04:23] <jbaloul> segfault...your telling me windows can tell and we can't?
[04:24] <segfault_> jbaloul, to the kernel hyperthreaded cpus and multicore cpus are both seen as multi cpus
[04:24] <anacaona> hello all
[04:24] <jbaloul> segfault, that stinks
[04:24] <jbaloul> i was hopping for more
[04:24] <anacaona> does anyone know a simple command line argument for dpkg which lists which files are installed with a package and where?
[04:24] <segfault_> jbaloul, not really it works quite well and does what it is supposed to
[04:24] <timalot> anacaona: dpkg -L <package name>
[04:25] <ks> what do you recommend to reduce noise from the box ?
[04:25] <anacaona> thank you timalot!
[04:25] <jbaloul> yeah but you are in the blind
[04:25] <gb521> can someone help me 1 on 1 with a built in wireless card?
[04:25] <s_spiff> Pharao2k, tried System>Admin>Networking?
[04:25] <segfault_> jbaloul, it all works the same why would it matter to the sys?
[04:26] <Jaga_> jbaloul, what about the "ht" flag in cpuinfo - that might be hyperthreading ??
[04:26] <s_spiff> Pharao2k, oh u said server na. sorry. dunno the console cmds for those.
[04:26] <jbaloul> segfault_: i need to check for performance....Jaga_ checking
[04:26] <timalot> can someone explain how hyperthreading is different from multi-cores... i havent caught up with new technology
[04:27] <Jaga_> jbaloul, scrap that, it doesn't mean ht.
[04:27] <segfault_> Jaga_, I dont think so
[04:27] <Pharao2k> s_spiff, it isnt there in ifconfig, but at the start of the installation, where one has to select the primary network device, there was it
[04:27] <segfault_> jbaloul, not sure how getting that info from the sys would help u chk performance
[04:28] <jbaloul> i need to determine the physical cpu's on the box....this is should be a 4 phys cpu box and right now we don't know
[04:28] <s_spiff> Pharao2k, i think ifconfig will show yu only actice cards..not sure. please check up some1 hehe
[04:28] <s_spiff> here*
[04:29] <thompa> howdy, what program do i use to change some mp3s to audio files for CD?
[04:29] <timalot> !serpentine
[04:29] <ubotu> serpentine: an application for mastering audio CD. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.91-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 668 kB
[04:29] <segfault_> jbaloul, well only way i know of todo that would open the box up, the kernel doesnt care
[04:30] <jbaloul> :)
[04:30] <gb521> i need help to get my built in wireless card to work with ubuntu
[04:30] <thompa> timalot: thanks
[04:31] <kristjin> Hi there...
[04:32] <kristjin> I am having trouble executing a chown on drive contents, apparently...
[04:32] <kristjin> This is what someone else had me doing last night at 1am before going to bed.
[04:32] <Dr_willis> what kind of drive?
[04:32] <kristjin> I have bout 10 minutes before going to work if someone has one suggestion I can try, here is what I'm trying to do:
[04:32] <jbaloul> ok guys, thanks for your help...looks like this specific box doesn't have the kernel that can tell the diff....i will have to tell someone on site to reboot and look at either the BIOS or boot screen
[04:32] <gb521> i need some help getting a driver for my wireless card
[04:33] <kristjin> I have a 400 GB data drive which is 93% full with mp3s that I need to mount.  It is an NTFS volume.
[04:33] <AnAnt> what's the differnce between flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree ?
[04:33] <lael> is there something i have to think of when buying a TV-card for linux (ubuntu)?
[04:33] <kristjin> I have a mount point at /home/kristjin/Desktop/Music which has already been set to 777
[04:33] <Dr_willis> lael,  go to the mythtv homepage and see what they reccomdne.. and what they say AVOIDE
[04:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:34] <kristjin> I have in fact already executed a sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/kristjin/Desktop/Music
[04:34] <timalot> kristjin:  how many hours of music?
[04:35] <kristjin> And it appears to have been successful, however, when attempting to access the volume from within ubuntu, I get an error window which reads "The folder contents could not be displayed.  You do not have the permissions necessary to vbiew the contents of "Music.""
[04:36] <rick_h> I'm running into trouble with ubuntu 64bit repos today. I'm getting a bunch of 404s, any know issue/solution?
[04:36] <Detox> anyone know mych about setting up mysql?
[04:36] <kristjin> timalot: The Full Albums section has 40729 tracks, totaling 117 days, 13:39:26 to my recollection.  I have it in an excel file I can send you if you like.  My singles and unsorted are also in it.
[04:36] <AnAnt> wait till repos sync maybe ?
[04:36] <segfault_> Detox, ask im sure someone will be able to help
[04:36] <timalot> kristjin: its ok
[04:36] <timalot> :)
[04:36] <kristjin> :)
[04:37] <rick_h> AnAnt: how can I check this is the trouble or know if it's something waiting won't fix for me?
[04:37] <gb521> is there a known problem with getting broadcom network adapters to work?
[04:37] <kmaynard> gb521, yup.
[04:37] <gb521> is there a way to fix it at all
[04:37] <AnAnt> rick_h: when do you get 404s ? when you update or upgrade ?
[04:37] <kristjin> Anyway, if I switch to root, I can access the folder, but when trying to chown the contents, it reported back that the drive was a read only drive.
[04:37] <Detox> i cannot figure out how to connect.. installed mysql on my debian pc,, open mysql admin type in hostname as listed in hosname commadn,,, but gives error of unkonwn host
[04:37] <kmaynard> gb521, is it wireless?
[04:37] <gb521> yeah, built in to my laptop
[04:38] <kmaynard> eek
[04:38] <timalot> kristjin: u can only mount ntfs partitions read-only in linux
[04:38] <kmaynard> try looking here
[04:38] <kmaynard> !wireless
[04:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:38] <kristjin> Now, gomen, but I don't know the commands for chown, nor the exact response we got back, as it was 1am, and he gave me exact commands which I just popped into the terminal.
[04:38] <PingunZ> !mp3
[04:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:38] <Detox> no matter what I type in it gives me error of cannot connect
[04:38] <rick_h> AnAnt: update, I don't have upgrades pending there
[04:38] <kristjin> I am supposed to hop into the shower in 2 minutes but can stand to do so in 12.
[04:38] <kristjin> Any suggestions?  :)
[04:38] <segfault_> Detox, unless ur dhcp server servs those hostnames as local dns entries or u add the hostnames to /etc/hosts ull need to use ip,
[04:38] <AnAnt> rick_h: i see, dunno then
[04:38] <kristjin> Goddess I'm such a geek...
[04:39] <kmaynard> kristjin, man chown
[04:39] <timalot> kristjin: what do u want to do with the mp3s?
[04:39] <Juhaz> kristjin, you can't write to ntfs, but other than that, you can use the "umask" mount option to get the wanted mode.
[04:39] <kristjin> Yeah, I heard someone else chastising him for that.
[04:39] <Detox> tried local ip of 192.168.2 50
[04:39] <Detox> same prob
[04:39] <boggle> Is Jeff Bailey around here?
[04:39] <kristjin> He said the chown was not wise.
[04:39] <kmaynard> chown -R user:group directory/
[04:39] <segfault_> Detox, also i think by default debian mysql listens only to localhost
[04:39] <rick_h> AnAnt: I'm trying to install some new stuff: Getting stuff like: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main sasl2-bin 2.1.19.dfsg1-0.1ubuntu2
[04:39] <rick_h>   404 Not Found [IP: 146.137.96.15 80] 
[04:39] <Detox> even tried http://localhost
[04:39] <kmaynard> oops, sudo chown -R user:group directory/
[04:39] <gb521> what should i be looking for in this help guide
[04:40] <lael> Dr_willis: i've looked on their page and on their wiki, but i cant find it to b e honest. :s
[04:40] <kmaynard> gb521, ndiswrapper probably
[04:40] <Vuen> hey all, when i boot up ubuntu it automatically starts my firewall
[04:40] <Vuen> how can i get rid of that? i don't want a firewall.
[04:40] <IcemanV9> rick_h: try a different server; looks like us server is having a problem (again)
[04:40] <kristjin> Well, it's not a problem with the chown command - it's something to do with the drive being write protected.
[04:40] <kristjin> It's very unusual.
[04:40] <Juhaz> it's not unusual.
[04:41] <kristjin> Again - Although I have mounted it, I cannot even access the folder from within Ubuntu.
[04:41] <kristjin> That isn't unusual?
[04:41] <Juhaz> it's ntfs.
[04:41] <kmaynard> is it a hard drive?
[04:41] <kristjin> Yeah.
[04:41] <kristjin> An NTFS hard drive.
[04:41] <kmaynard> oh hell, ntfs?
[04:41] <kmaynard> write support is there, but AFAIK its still dangerous
[04:41] <kristjin> I can't have an NTFS Hard drive mount to a folder on my desktop in Ubuntu?
[04:41] <sugus> join #dataflow
[04:41] <kristjin> C'mon....
[04:41] <ntc> hey
[04:41] <dcordes_> hey there, i can't read out my thermal ifnormation. acpi -t gives me an error
[04:41] <kristjin> I don't need write support, but I want to be able to access the files.
[04:41] <ntc> where can i find ttf-xfree86-nonfree
[04:41] <ntc> ?
[04:41] <kmaynard> !ntfs
[04:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:41] <dcordes_> what can ido?
[04:41] <AnAnt> rick_h: dunno
[04:42] <Vuen> kristjin, you can certainly read from ntfs
[04:42] <ntc> anyone?
[04:42] <kristjin> That's what I'm saying.
[04:42] <kristjin> It isn't allowing me to even VIEW the files.
[04:42] <kmaynard> ntc, ubuntu uses xork
[04:42] <Juhaz> kristjin, man mount, read about "gid", "uid" and "umask" in the section "mount options for ntfs"
[04:42] <kristjin> I apologize if I'm being unclear.
[04:42] <kmaynard> xorg*
[04:42] <Vuen> kristjin, mount in in media and stick a link to it on your desktop
[04:42] <ntc> I need this package for splash utils :S
[04:42] <Vuen> you shouldn't be mounting in inside your home folder if it's not writeable
[04:42] <ntc> kmaynard,
[04:42] <kristjin> I see.
[04:43] <kmaynard> xfree is old and hella unsupported
[04:43] <kristjin> Thank you.
[04:43] <Vuen> i think. i don't know that for sure
[04:43] <Vuen> but a link will work as though it was mounted there
[04:43] <ntc> mkey
[04:43] <kmaynard> look for slash stuff in xorg
[04:43] <kmaynard> splash...man i cant type today
[04:43] <Vuen> question, how can i disable my firewall?
[04:43] <ntc> hehe
[04:44] <ntc> but this is for the fbsplash
[04:44] <ntc> at boot up
[04:44] <Vuen> i'm using firestarter to configure it, i just want the thing off. it keeps starting up again when i turn my computer on
[04:44] <ntc> the package depends on ttf-xfree86-nonfree
[04:44] <IcemanV9> dcordes_: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/*
[04:44] <K1000A19> ffsggbbdhydvgjbvgkfg
[04:44] <boggle> Vuen: do you see the start script in /etc/init.d ?
[04:44] <K1000A19> hello
[04:45] <dcordes_> how can i get my cpu temperature? it is important becaus my cpu gets hot some times when it's warm and i need to be able to check it out. otherwise ubuntu is complete useless for me.
[04:45] <Vuen> boggle, which script would it be?
[04:45] <ntc> kmaynard, its found here when i search on google http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/ttf-xfree86-nonfree
[04:45] <ntc> but how do i add that?
[04:45] <boggle> Vuen: try 'grep iptables /etc/init.d/*' and see if something is shown
[04:45] <IcemanV9> dcordes_: did u issue the command that i just gave you?? it'll tell you the cpu temp
[04:45] <Vuen> nothing
 thanks cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/*: No such file or directory
[04:45] <K1000A19>  your speak espanish
[04:45] <Vuen> there is a firestarter script though
[04:46] <kmu> which log file do errors go to at boot?
[04:46] <K1000A19> soy chilenaaaaa
[04:46] <K1000A19> SOY CHILENAAAAAAA
[04:46] <boggle> Vuen: I guess this is what is starting the firewall then
[04:46] <Vuen> boggle, grep iptables shows nothing, but grep fire shows the firestarter script
[04:46] <Vuen> should i uninstall firestarter?
[04:46] <IcemanV9> dcordes_: okay. try this one -> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM*/*
[04:46] <kmaynard> !es
[04:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:46] <boggle> Vuen: you can probably disable this, wait a minute, I'm usually a fedora user :)
[04:46] <dcordes_> IcemanV9: no such file :-(
[04:47] <Vuen> okay, i just purged firestarter
[04:47] <boggle> Vuen: can you do /etc/init.d/firestarter stop and see if this stops the firewall?
[04:47] <Vuen> grep iptables and grep fire both show nothing in /etc/init.d
[04:47] <Vuen> gonna restart
[04:47] <Vuen> thanks boggle
[04:47] <Vuen> back in 5
[04:47] <dcordes_> IcemanV9: i have an amd athlon xp 3200+ on via kt600 chipset
[04:47] <IcemanV9> dcordes_: then, i don't know other way to find the cpu temp. looks like acpi is not supported on your box :/
[04:49] <rupy> Does Dapper support the open source radeon gfx driver?
[04:50] <sproingie> it comes with it.  it also sucks.
[04:50] <rupy> the fglrx driver also sucks
[04:50] <sproingie> the r300 driver would be nice, but i havent seen any progress on that in months
[04:51] <rupy> i have a x1600 mobility card
[04:52] <rupy> i take it the r300 driver wont work?
[04:52] <sproingie> no clue
[04:52] <ntc> anyone knows where to fint this package? http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/ttf-xfree86-nonfree
[04:52] <ntc> wops
[04:52] <ntc> wrong sry
[04:52] <ntc> this ttf-xfree86-nonfree
[04:53] <wick2o> any get ubuntu installed on a dell poweredge 860? my install seems to hang after nic setup
[04:53] <wick2o> my gues is i have sata drivers error
[04:53] <LjL> !info ttf-xfree86-nonfree
[04:53] <ubotu> ttf-xfree86-nonfree: non-free TrueType fonts from XFree86. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.2.1-3 (dapper), package size 424 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[04:53] <LjL> ntc: ^
[04:54] <ntc> LjL,hehe, but i have all reps enabled, cant find it
[04:54] <salkot> After upgrading to the latest version, my System>Quit... menu no longer has the option to shutdown -- just logout, lock, switch user, and hibernate. How do I get shutdown back??
[04:54] <thompa> does serpentine chang ethe mp3s to a different format for cd?
[04:54] <rupy> grr
[04:54] <thompa> i dont see any settings or anything
[04:54] <rupy> so what do i do about this graphics card situation
[04:54] <rupy> I want to run aiglx
[04:54] <LjL> ntc: well, you must have done something wrong while enabling multiverse then, because the package is there.
[04:54] <rupy> and that doesnt work with fglrx
[04:54] <LjL> ntc: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <ntc> kk
[04:54] <thompa> !serpentine
[04:54] <ubotu> serpentine: an application for mastering audio CD. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.91-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 668 kB
[04:55] <rupy> how do i install the open source radeon driver?
[04:55] <ntc> whats the address? forgit it
[04:55] <LjL> !pastebin
[04:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:55] <hunger> Hi! Is there a way to stop hal from thinking a laptop my hibernate?
[04:55] <thompa> anybody know before i waste a cd , if serpentine burns to what?
[04:55] <kmaynard> power option in System | Administrationb
[04:55] <kmaynard> -b
[04:55] <rasputnik> how do I purge a package with apt? I'm trying to install mysql4.1 and it's crapping out because it can't downgrade my 5.0 db (which I installed by mistake)
[04:56] <LjL> rasputnik: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[04:56] <ntc> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26600/ there
[04:56] <rasputnik> LjL: thanks
[04:57] <LjL> ntc: well, you definitely don't have multiverse enable. add "multiverse" at the end of lines 17, 18, 32, 33
[04:57] <IcemanV9> ntc: multiverse is NOT enabled :)
[04:58] <rasputnik> woo, worked.
[04:58] <ntc> change universe to mutiverse?
[04:58] <LjL> ntc: no. add it after universe.
[04:58] <ntc> kk thx
[05:00] <ntc> LjL, thanks a lot man
[05:00] <ntc> <3
[05:00] <LjL> ntc: do a "sudo apt-get update" also, to sync your packages list
[05:01] <ntc> I already reloaded :P
[05:01] <ntc> thx anyway
[05:01] <ntc> I dont update
[05:01] <ntc> nmy update is fucked!
[05:01] <LjL> !language
[05:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:01] <LjL> ntc: pastebin the errors
[05:01] <LjL> ntc: (and, i guess, pastebin your new sources.list)
[05:01] <ntc> sry for the launguage
[05:02] <ntc> well LjL what my update does is... it doesnt give any errors
[05:02] <ntc> it just keeps update the same files
[05:02] <ntc> over and over again
[05:02] <LjL> ntc: ...?
[05:02] <ntc> till it fills my hole harddrive
[05:02] <ntc> yep :S
[05:02] <rasputnik> ntc: that's what it's supposed to do. then you upgrade.
[05:02] <LjL> ntc: when you say "update", you actually mean the "sudo apt-get update"?
[05:02] <rasputnik> ntc: what makes you say it fills your disk?
[05:03] <ntc> isnt apt-update update the same as the update application in gnome?
[05:03] <ntc> look
[05:03] <LjL> i haven't a clue about what's in gnome
[05:03] <ntc> for example
[05:03] <ntc> I says "package v1.0" needs to be updated
[05:03] <rasputnik> ntc: no. 'man apt-get' would help
[05:03] <ntc> it*
[05:03] <xamox> if I want a script to run when the machine starts up where do I need to put it?
[05:03] <ntc> And i let it update
[05:04] <ntc> then when its done
[05:04] <ntc> the same "package v1.0" need update again
[05:04] <Dr_willis> xamox,  depends on what the script is going to do.
[05:04] <ntc> over and over again
[05:04] <ntc> its wierd
[05:04] <IcemanV9> update is to sync the package list on local drive; upgrade is to update all apps that are installed on your box
[05:04] <ntc> but i dont care, that much
[05:04] <xamox> Dr_willis:  start LAMP, so it needs to run as root
[05:04] <ntc> okey
[05:04] <MattJ> ntc, apt-get update is not apt-get upgrade
[05:04] <ntc> well I used synaptic to reload again
[05:05] <MattJ> :)
[05:05] <ntc> I thought it was sry :P
[05:05] <rasputnik> IcemanV9: with hindsight, calling the gnome frontend 'update-manager' might not have been a good idea
[05:05] <sproingie> calling the command "update" was also not a great idea
[05:05] <Dr_willis> xamox,  i would guess the rc.local script then.. or check the !lamp bot url.. to perhaps find a more proper place to do it
[05:05] <Dr_willis> !lamp
[05:05] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[05:06] <rasputnik> xamox: if you install the servers, they'll start at boot by default anyway
[05:06] <gb521> how can i open an .exe to get a file out of it
[05:06] <Zaggynl> How do I add custom hotkeys in Gnome?
[05:07] <Zaggynl> like starting the taskmanager like program with Super-Delete
[05:07] <ntc> gb521, some kind of resource hacker maybe
[05:07] <xamox> rasputnik:  umm, well, I'm using a different distro
[05:07] <Dr_willis> gb521,  ive used wine to  have those extract. and then get to the files
[05:07] <Zaggynl> !hotkeys
[05:07] <ubotu> hotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 141 kB, installed size 380 kB
[05:07] <rasputnik> xamox: which one?
[05:07] <gb521> where can i get wine
[05:07] <xamox> Dr_willis:  if I just add the command in my rc.local I should be good to go.
[05:07] <xamox> rasputnik:  Puppylinux, very small distro
[05:07] <Dr_willis> xamox,  if the services are isntalled they SHOULD be auto starting.
[05:08] <Vuen> what's up #ubuntu, i'm having some strange issues with azureus and sun java 5, so i just did an apt-get remove --purge azureus sun-java5-*
[05:08] <rasputnik> xamox: you need to check how it's init system works (small distros don't always use SysVinit)
[05:08] <Vuen> what's the most reliable way to install java and azureus?
[05:08] <xamox> Dr_willis:  well it's not technically setup as a service, if I run lampp start it fires up Apache/Mysql/Lamp all at the same time
[05:08] <glatzor> rasputnik: why? update-manager is a fine name
[05:09] <ntc> hey by the way
[05:09] <rasputnik> glatzor: not when an *update* == apt-get *upgrade*
[05:09] <ntc> ah nvm
[05:09] <glatzor> rasputnik: the terminology of apt ist broken.
[05:09] <boggle> Vuen: did it work?
[05:09] <sproingie> i just click the little orange widget and it just works.  seems the obvious way to go for folks who are confused
[05:10] <Vuen> boggle, yep, thanks
[05:10] <Vuen> i am now firewall free
[05:10] <rasputnik> glatzor: yes, but it was here first :)
[05:10] <glatzor> rasputnik: so why not fix it in the graphical user interface
[05:10] <Vuen> and i finally understand how firestarter works and what it actually does
[05:10] <Vuen> although i can't explain why samba is picking random ports for browsing, i don't really care anymore
[05:10] <Vuen> samba can do whatever it wants.
[05:10] <boggle> Vuen: I think "update-rc.d -f firestarter remove" will do the job without losing your firewall configuration
[05:10] <glatzor> rasputnik: the most user won't care about the difference between an update and an upgrade either. or that apt uses update instead of fetch or reload
[05:10] <Vuen> i do want to lose my firewall configuration
[05:11] <Vuen> i did apt-get remove --purge firestarter
[05:11] <Vuen> kill EVERYTHING
[05:11] <boggle> Vuen: ok :)
[05:11] <sproingie> users using the gui usually don't need to issue update commands
[05:11] <rasputnik> glatzor: people are forever in here saying they ran 'apt-get update' and don't have the latest updates
[05:12] <rasputnik> sproingie: no, but when they come in here and want to enable multiverse/universe it usually confuses them
[05:14] <sproingie> rasputnik: that whole "universe/multiverse" thing is broken usability-wise
[05:14] <AstralJava> sproingie: How so?
[05:14] <rasputnik> sproingie: how else are people supposed to get mplayer?
[05:15] <Vuen> sproingie, i agree. people should not have to break out the console to activate these repos.
[05:15] <rasputnik> the alternative is everyone using nasty hacks like marilat or building from source
[05:16] <sproingie> Vuen: they don't have to.  that they have such goofy undescriptive names is part of the problem
[05:17] <Vuen> sproingie, oh. I haven't used synaptic since breezy, i didn't realize synaptic can do that now.
[05:17] <rasputnik> Vuen: but there is an argument that this keeps users who fear the console with the 'safer' main repos
[05:17] <Vuen> well, i don't really see how the main repos are any safer...
[05:17] <rasputnik> Vuen: for a start, the packages are authenticated
[05:17] <sproingie> Vuen: you could do it in breezy too.  it's just not in an obvious place
[05:17] <AstralJava> sproingie: ...and the descriptions are still pretty good, so why should the name matter?
[05:18] <sproingie> AstralJava: the desriptions are for people who've already wandered across the settings.  all they hear everywhere else is "turn on multiverse".
[05:18] <raghu206> where can i find best Kde themes
[05:19] <sproingie> raghu206: kdelook.org
[05:19] <kmaynard> http://www.kde-look.org/
[05:19] <AstralJava> sproingie: I see. Well, I suppose whatever sounds good is easy to sell, so I see your point. :)
[05:19] <raghu206> kmaynard, only that site
[05:20] <sproingie> are people incapable of using google?
[05:20] <michaels_> how do I use a .run file?
[05:20] <sproingie> http://www.google.com/search?q=kde+themes
[05:20] <Comrade_S> raghu206: http://www.skinbase.org/kde.php
[05:20] <kmaynard> raghu206, you could always google for more
[05:20] <host`> question, In firefox's option I sellected for it to be the default. When I right click on a link in xchat, though, and tell it to "open link in browser" it open konqueror, how do I change that?
[05:20] <Comrade_S> raghu206: http://kde.themes.org/     there are lots more,just google for kde themes
[05:21] <AstralJava> sproingie: Sorry, but you just lost your argument. :) If people knew how to use Google, there's no need to give better, more descriptive names to those extra repositories. :-D
[05:21] <jmspeex> Is it normal that my two CPUs are giving different bogomips numbers?
[05:21] <rasputnik> host`: System -> preferred applications
[05:21] <rasputnik> jmspeex: bogomips are just made up
[05:21] <jmspeex> One is giving 1x clock and the other one is giving 2x clock.
[05:21] <sproingie> AstralJava: consider that i was responding to something different
[05:21] <AstralJava> jmspeex: At least in my system (the other one) they do.
[05:21] <segfault_> host`, u have to set default browser in kcontrol, also set default browser using update-alternatives
[05:22] <michaels_> how do I make a .run file executable?
[05:22] <sproingie> AstralJava: but hey, i suppose we could just name the repos jerwhtkjh235kjh2sdfg and make people google for the meaning
[05:22] <AstralJava> sproingie: yes, but it revealed the philosophy of yours concerning users.
[05:22] <jmspeex> rasputnik: I know they're made up, but I'd thought that two CPUs on the same die should behave the same.
[05:22] <segfault_> michaels_, chmod +x
[05:22] <rasputnik> AstralJava: google is only any good if you know how to ask a good question
[05:22] <host`> I'm not in kde
[05:22] <sproingie> AstralJava: i don't have time for sophistry
[05:23] <segfault_> host`, ahh then use update-allternatives
[05:23] <Willster> hey...in kubuntu linux, does anyone know how to make gmail(in firefox) my default mailto: client?
[05:23] <segfault_> host`, err update-alternatives
[05:23] <rasputnik> jmspeex: me too :) but that's why they tell you it's made up, I suppose
[05:23] <host`> ok, it gives me a lot of option
[05:23] <host`> hold on
[05:24] <segfault_> host`, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[05:25] <fourat> anyone know how to get php-gtk binaries on Ubuntu ?
[05:25] <davin> Is there something available that lets me 'watch' PDFs inside Firefox?
[05:25] <glatzor> rasputnik: and this is an apt-get problem
[05:25] <glatzor> rasputnik: I did so too, even before using a GUI tool :)
[05:26] <gandolfthewizard> hi all how are you today
[05:26] <Zaggynl> yay wine 0.9.23 is out
[05:26] <host`> cool, I just did  update-alternatives --all and went through everything
[05:26] <host`> thanks
[05:26] <host`> that may be usefull in the future
[05:26] <wick2o> i have a driver that needs to be installed in order for ubuntu to see the harddrives of my poweredge 860, how do i do this with linux? since there is no "press f6" option like in windows
[05:27] <wick2o> it currently just hangs after the nic setup
[05:27] <gandolfthewizard> i just downloaded the j2se1.4-i586-1.4.2.02.orig and was woundering if someone could help explain on how to install it
[05:27] <Alzi2> Hey. When I use firefox to browse the web, i continously get a message that i need to accept a certain certificate, because it expired. This happened after my new install.... It says i have to check my time (which was only 3 hours in the past on the install), and i set it correctly.. well... when i view the certificate I see that it indeed expired. Why did all the certificates expire on 19-06-07?
[05:27] <Alzi2> ... wait... 07?
[05:27] <wick2o> i could really use a point in the correct direction
[05:27] <segfault_> host`, fyi if u cant recall the alternative name do ls /etc/alternatives thats wherre they are all stored
[05:27] <Alzi2> 2019?!?!?!
[05:27] <Alzi2> WHAT THE...
[05:28] <Alzi2> it was set to 2019 oO
[05:28] <host`> thanks
[05:28] <TigTigger> Impressive.
[05:28] <fildo> hi, has anyone here setup a ipw2100 wifi card correctly on ubuntu ?
[05:29] <wick2o> fildo: apt-get install ipw2200 or ipw2100
[05:29] <wick2o> that was all i had to do
[05:29] <Burnt-out> does anyone know of a gui app that can configure proftpd in ubuntu
[05:29] <gandolfthewizard> could someone help me
[05:29] <wick2o> Burnt-out: webmin
[05:30] <fildo> ssure ? . cause i have issues with setting freq
[05:30] <Burnt-out> tried it ....not easy...that works from windows machine as well...it sucks
[05:30] <wick2o> not easy?
[05:30] <jmspeex> Is is possible to upgrade from the 32-bit version to the 64-bit one?
[05:30] <gb521> can someone help me with getting universe and/or wine
[05:31] <Burnt-out> yeah...every time i try set user rights it says that you need to set unix group
[05:31] <Refoyl> Hello all.  I have a compaq laptop with the ATI Radeon express 200M card.  If I boot (Dapper) with a monitor or projector attached to the VGA port, the port is live and clones the screen, which is what I want.  If I boot with nothing connected to the VGA port, the port is dead and nothing I do (fn-f4, for instance) seems to raise it, whether I am in X-Windows or in plain terminal mode.  Must I always reboot, or is there some way to restart this
[05:31] <wick2o> gb521: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:31] <davin> Is there something available that lets me view PDF's inside Firefox?
[05:31] <segfault_> gb521, read faq on enabling repositories
[05:31] <salkot> After upgrading to the latest version, my System>Quit... menu no longer has the option to shutdown -- just logout, lock, switch user, and hibernate. How do I get shutdown back??
[05:31] <fildo> yeh cause it gives me this
[05:31] <segfault_> davin, adobe acroread is available and the gnome pdf reader comes installed by default
[05:31] <gandolfthewizard> can someone help me with installing the j2se1.4 self extracting file?
[05:31] <Burnt-out> wick2o:     yeah...every time i try set user rights it says that you need to set unix group
[05:31] <fildo> Error for wireless request "Set Frequency" (8B04) : SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
[05:31] <krayzone> davin: if you install adobe acrobat on your linux box, it should launch when you open a pdf inside a website
[05:32] <davin> krayzone: cheers mate
[05:32] <fildo> like , wtf it should be auto . but u set it n still
[05:32] <kmaynard> Refoyl, sounds like your pc turns off the vga port unless something isconnected...may be a bios option
[05:32] <wick2o> Burnt-out: so add the person to a group
[05:32] <wick2o> create a ftp group
[05:32] <wick2o> add everyone to that group you want to use ftp
[05:32] <Q3Man> Having an odd problem with a USB webcam. The webcam works fine when plugged directly into the machine, but will not display an image (and eventually causes a kernel panic from spca5xx, the usb driver for the camera) when connected through a hub (the usb hub is powered)
[05:32] <wick2o> assign permissions to that group
[05:32] <Refoyl> kmaynard: thanks; I guess I can try playing with the BIOS.
[05:33] <segfault_> gandolfthewizard, iirc all u need to do is run the file
[05:33] <Burnt-out> wick2o:               how....everytime i want to add a user using webmin it says that anoying need to set unix group
[05:33] <fildo> wick2o: no such package mate
[05:33] <quux> Running vmware-server on ubuntu dapper. Since adding the vmware virtual USB device to an XP guest, I am getting errors from /dev/dsp every time the XP system tries to make a sound. Thoughts?
[05:33] <wick2o> bah dont use webmin to add users
[05:33] <IcemanV9> !webmin
[05:33] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[05:33] <wick2o> use adduser on a command prompt
[05:33] <Burnt-out> lol
[05:34] <Bonez56>  /j #ubuntu+1
[05:34] <wick2o> fildo: do an aptitude search ipw* or something
[05:34] <wick2o> and do you have universe and multiverse enabled ?
[05:34] <Burnt-out> can u give full command for lets say usr1 pass1
[05:34] <fildo> sudo apt-cache search ipw*
[05:34] <wick2o> burnt-out
[05:34] <wick2o> adduser usr1
[05:34] <wick2o> follow the onscreen prompts
[05:34] <wick2o> it asks for password and whatnot
[05:34] <Burnt-out> k brb let u know
[05:34] <segfault_> Burnt-out, man adduser
[05:35] <Burnt-out> that i take is the manual
[05:35] <segfault_> yep
[05:35] <FordPrefect> hey anyone know why my DNS lookups are suddenly really slow (and sometimes intermittent) after recent updates?
[05:35] <gandolfthewizard> is there anything out there that i can use to install the j2se1.4-i586
[05:35] <krayzone> burn-out: if you know how to script you could add all the users to a script file and just run it.
[05:35] <segfault_> gandolfthewizard, iirc all u need to do is run the file
[05:35] <gandolfthewizard> i did but i still can't get into the chat rooms
[05:35] <FordPrefect> (not slow when I boot to OS X)
[05:36] <Burnt-out> wick2o:                 it says user already exists
[05:36] <protos> kmaynard still around??
[05:36] <FordPrefect> (and is slow on Ubuntu on 2 networks but direct IP is very fast)
[05:36] <gandolfthewizard> what do i do with the mozilla plug-in
[05:36] <wick2o> then the user is alreayd on your system
[05:36] <wick2o> do a userdel -r usr1 or deluser (i forget)
[05:36] <wick2o> then readd it
[05:36] <Burnt-out> k will try
[05:37] <segfault_> gandolfthewizard, read the instructions it should tell u how to do that
[05:37] <Refoyl> kmaynard: there is no BIOS setting on my laptop available from setup dealing with the video port.
[05:37] <raar> I've installed ubuntu, but grub doesn't seem to work properly, I have Ubuntu installed on the 3rd partition of my /dev/sda drive - what would I have to put into the GRUB Menu for "root"? root (hd1,2) doesn't work..
[05:37] <gandolfthewizard> i did but its all new to me
[05:37] <segfault_> gandolfthewizard, also fyi sun java 1.5 is in repositories, and will handle all that for u
[05:38] <Burnt-out> k got it to add the user ftp....now how to set the default directory from /home/ftp to /var/www
[05:38] <gandolfthewizard> i have been trying to get that but i have not had any luck been trying for the last 4 days
[05:38] <segfault_> raar, hd0,2
[05:38] <raar> segfault_, ah okay - thanks very much :)
[05:39] <raar> I'm wondering how the numbering works ;)
[05:39] <wick2o> Burnt-out: perhaps you edit /etc/passwd ?
[05:39] <Burnt-out> wick2o:    thanks for the help :-) it is working to log on to /home/ftp
[05:39] <segfault_> raar, hdx,y x is hd num starting 0, y is partition num also starting at 0
[05:40] <wick2o> forget what i just typed
[05:40] <wick2o> you edit the ftp config files for that
[05:40] <Piotr> is there a polish version of this channel?
[05:40] <okeefenokee> hi folks. i have a clean, spanking new (and upgraded) ubuntu-installation on my computer. when i tried to install emacs (with synaptic) i got the following error message:
[05:40] <wick2o> (hence use webmin) if you dont like to read the configs
[05:40] <segfault_> Burnt-out, man usermod
[05:40] <raar> segfault_: ah I see, thanks :) I have a IDE harddrive and a SATA harddrive, so it could be possible that the root might have to be (hd1,2) ?
[05:40] <kaphein> Hi all, I'm looking for the equivalent of the "minimal-responses" option in BINDv9 but for BINDv8, any pointers (already checked Zytrax, the ARM at isc.org and Google) ?
[05:41] <orbin> !pl
[05:41] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:41] <orbin> Piotr: ^^
[05:41] <eifzon> hello
[05:41] <segfault_> raar, yes it is as grub makes no distinction between the two
[05:41] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      ya....but i still need to re-install webmin....i took it off....cos it helped squat with what i was trying obviously a glitch in the username and passwd somewhere
[05:41] <okeefenokee> dpkg: parse error in file /var/lib/dpkg/available near line 22652 package foomatic-db
[05:41] <eifzon> what can be wrong when i try to install ubuntu, it just hang up after 10sec and it says something with kernel?
[05:42] <raar> segfault_: oh okay, thanks very much - off to test it! :)
[05:42] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      what line in the proftpd.conf is for the home dir for a specific user?  i did not see anything there for home dir
[05:42] <segfault_> raar, :) gl
[05:43] <okeefenokee> the file obv. is corrupted...but that's rather fast working, it was my first installation. what can i do?
[05:43] <wick2o> Burnt-out: goto proftpd's websit eand read their FAQ
[05:43] <wick2o> or forum, sorry but i cant walk you through this (tring to solve a weird problem of my own)
[05:43] <misterme_> is it possible to install ubuntu on a computer with debian/grub already installed on the MBR? how would i format the debian partitions so that i could put ubuntu on them, and also uninstall grub temporarily
[05:43] <Burnt-out> k ....just that linux help and faq is not easily understandable for the newbee
[05:43] <eifzon> what can be wrong when i try to install ubuntu, it just hang up after 10sec and it says something with kernel?
[05:44] <fourat> what's the equivalent of debian's debootstrap command on ubuntu ? or how to use it with ubuntu ?
[05:44] <Piotr> !wine
[05:44] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:45] <gandolfthewizard> i still don't understand this
[05:45] <mcdonaldswes> fourat: it should be the same, I believe, but you need to specify a different suite if you want to make a ubuntu chroot
[05:45] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      nothing there about default login folders
[05:45] <IcemanV9> okeefenokee: sudo aptitude install emacs
[05:45] <TmWrk_Quil> grr
[05:45] <aloysio> !EdgyEft
[05:46] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:46] <TmWrk_Quil> to install the sun jdk it should be just apt-get install sun-jdk
[05:46] <wick2o> wick2o:      nothing there about default login folders
[05:46] <aloysio> !schedule
[05:46] <okeefenokee> iceman: are you telling me that i should forget the sunaptic interface?
[05:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:46] <wick2o> wick2o:      nothing there about default login folders
[05:46] <wick2o> oops
[05:46] <wick2o> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=proftpd+default+login+folders&btnG=Google+Search
[05:46] <Piotr> is there a wine version for 6.10?
[05:46] <wick2o> forums.proftpd.org :: Viewtopic -Ftp user
[05:46] <gandolfthewizard> couldn't find package sun-jdk
[05:46] <wick2o> click on that returned result appox 6 down
[05:47] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      will check it out
[05:47] <okeefenokee> same error messages: Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 65, <$__ANONIO__> line 989.
[05:47] <Burnt-out> found it
[05:47] <okeefenokee> and so on
[05:48] <IcemanV9> sun-java5-jre?
[05:48] <gandolfthewizard> yes that is what i have bee trying to get for the last 4 <days
[05:48] <fourat> mcdonaldswes, how to define a different suite ?
[05:48] <xyzzy_bill> Hey, here's a dumb question: Why is OLPC running Fedora, and not Ubuntu?
[05:49] <IcemanV9> okeefenokee: i don't know. i don't use emacs. something is borked with its package. :/
[05:49] <XsesA> hello
[05:49] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      will try that quick
[05:49] <XsesA> any1 here?
[05:49] <mcdonaldswes> fourat: I think they're predefined.. so you can do something like "debootstrap dapper dir_to_put_dapper_chroot"
[05:49] <XsesA> just installed ubuntu
[05:49] <XsesA> it tells me "error loading operation system"
[05:49] <mcdonaldswes> definitions are in /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts
[05:49] <XsesA> any1?
[05:49] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: so it is not installing correctly?
[05:50] <gandolfthewizard> i can't find it
[05:50] <XsesA> helpppppp
[05:50] <krayzone> xsesa: Did you install grub during the installation. That error sounds like its trying to boot into windows?
[05:50] <IcemanV9> oh. is it universe and multiverse enabled in your /etc/source.list?
[05:51] <gandolfthewizard> i have the j2se1.4-i586-1.4.2.02.orig
[05:51] <XsesA> i saw it installed it
[05:51] <gandolfthewizard> yes i have them all
[05:51] <XsesA> but he never asks me which OS i want to work with
[05:51] <XsesA> i had one error tho
[05:51] <XsesA> with security updates
[05:51] <gandolfthewizard> yes
[05:51] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      when i do what it says there it says "unable to lock password file"
[05:51] <Nookie> does anyone know what is the default username on postgresql and database????
[05:51] <XsesA> but i just said ok and it keeped installing
[05:51] <XsesA> plz fast.......
[05:51] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre ? it doesn't work?
[05:52] <gandolfthewizard> nope
[05:52] <w30> xyzzy_bill, I think RedHat put some money into adapting Linux to the laptop operating system development?
[05:52] <gandolfthewizard> i have bene trying that for the last 4 days
[05:52] <krayzone> xsesa: are you dualbooting windows with your ubuntu installation. If so I would say reload the installation and skip all the steps except for when its time to install the boot loader to see if that works.
[05:52] <XsesA> i should be dual booting
[05:52] <XsesA> i just restarted after install
[05:52] <wick2o> Burnt-out: you need to be root
[05:52] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: hm. i don't know if there is a problem with the package or not. i installed java long ago.
[05:52] <nmsa> hello
[05:52] <Burnt-out> sudo then
[05:53] <XsesA> and it says error loading operating system (after trying to boot cd)
[05:53] <xyzzy_bill> w30, That's likely true.  Targeting 100M children could result in some $ to RedHat down the road.  Still, it seems like a natural fit for Ubuntu.
[05:53] <wick2o> sudo su root
[05:53] <wick2o> then you can keep root status
[05:53] <krayzone> you should but its not. So as a result I would suggest reloading the ubuntu installation and skiping to the part when it asks to install grub, and have it write to the mbr
[05:53] <XsesA> it never asked me
[05:53] <gandolfthewizard> this is what i get when i try to get it on terminal E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[05:53] <XsesA> it just installed the ubuntu and someting like 98 percent it installed the grub thing
[05:53] <host_> although, keeping root status isn't ever really needed, unless you really really really want to save those 5 keystrokes
[05:54] <scott_> hey, anyone know if its possible to get onscreen controls for the vlc plugin for firefox?
[05:54] <krayzone> Are you able to rerun the ubuntu installation?
[05:54] <xyzzy_bill> w30: My other thought was perhaps OLPC is trying to keep thinks US based, because it's so political.  Reducing the cost of a laptop to lower than the cost of Windows could be bad for US based M$
[05:54] <wick2o> host_: it is if your doing alot of stuff as root
[05:54] <nmsa> I have a question related to raid: at boot I have this message: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt. my raid is working but I got this annoying msg all the time; I formated the partitions in raid and not the raid itself, can this be the problem ?
[05:54] <wick2o> and its a good thing to know how to do
[05:54] <XsesA> grrr
[05:54] <w30> xyzzy_bill, actually the laptop has a much modyfied Linux in size and also in security at the hardware level. Just what I read.
[05:54] <XsesA> please help meeeeeee
[05:55] <XsesA> i am getting crazy =\
[05:55] <host_> true, that reminds me, today I make my first attempt in a long time to build a kernel
[05:55] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: apt-cache policy sun-java5-jre -- what does it tell ya?
[05:55] <krayzone> I gave you all the answers I have for that problem
[05:55] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      now when i try log on using ftp in the shell it says "connection refused
[05:55] <wick2o> i have to do some trickery, boot from livecd..apply a linux keral patch...then install the server distro from the desktop live cd
[05:55] <wick2o> this isnt going to be fun
[05:56] <XsesA> fuck linux :(
[05:56] <wick2o> are you tring to connect via root? or as ftp?
[05:56] <gandolfthewizard> W: Unable to locate package sun-java5-jre
[05:56] <wick2o> XsesA: that will get you nowhere
[05:56] <slacktyro> I'm having bug problems with my sound, I hope when i finish to upgrade it'll be fixed, anyone got anything like that?
[05:56] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      ftp and root
[05:56] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      makes no diffirence
[05:56] <dcordes> in which file can i find the startup entries?
[05:56] <wick2o> did you restart the proftpd process?
[05:56] <xyzzy_bill> w30, I read they compress Fedora to 100MB... Seems funny, since Ubuntu already is.  I also suspect OLPC isn't offering their machine in developed countries, so as not to compete with Dell, HP, etc.
[05:56] <wick2o> /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[05:56] <XsesA> what is that
[05:56] <Riot777> how to vote for some app to add this app in official apt repo's ?
[05:56] <XsesA> ?!
[05:56] <dcordes> like gnome-volume-manager and so on
[05:56] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      i tried to
[05:56] <XsesA> i dunno i just told it to install :(
[05:56] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: well. i don't think multiverse is enabled since it cannot find its package
[05:56] <wick2o> umm check your stuff for typos
[05:57] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      it says this.....brb with exact statment
[05:57] <XsesA> it failed doing security updates
[05:57] <xyzzy_bill> w30, anyway, thanks for the reply.  I was just curious if anyone had heard of OLPC contacting Ubuntu for support.
[05:57] <gandolfthewizard> i have it checked in the rasportotiy
[05:57] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      it says this.....brb with exact statment
[05:57] <dcordes> i only need the path/filename of startup programs list...
[05:57] <w30> xyzzy_bill, I don't think Fedora is US in development any way at all. Developers are world wide.
[05:57] <dcordes> anybody?
[05:57] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      proftpd is started from initd/xinitd
[05:58] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      proftpd is started from inetd/xinitd
[05:58] <gandolfthewizard> but i'll go and check again
[05:58] <wick2o> not sure, perhaps you have a type in your config?
[05:58] <wick2o> to /etc/init.d/stop
[05:58] <PM^> I upgraded to edgy and now I have weird fonts in emacs (barely redable). I did not have any special font setting in .emacs; I suspect is some default font setting. Any idea how to configure that?
[05:58] <wick2o> to /etc/init.d/proftpd stop
[05:58] <wick2o> clear your log
[05:58] <wick2o> /ec/init.d/proftpd start
[05:58] <dcordes> hellooo?
[05:59] <wick2o> and then check your log for errors
[05:59] <Zaggynl> dcordes, startup list of services or startup programs? like msconfig?
[05:59] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: if it is enabled, then did you update to re-sync the package list? sudo apt-get update
[05:59] <eifzon> When iam installing ubuntu, it just hang up and says: Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel
[05:59] <gandolfthewizard> yes i have done that to
[05:59] <dcordes>  Zaggy yea
[05:59] <Zaggynl> dcordes, do you use Gnome?
[06:00] <xyzzy_bill> w30, true, but whats good for Fedora is good for RedHat.
[06:00] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: apt-cache policy sun-java5-jre (again to see if it is present or not)
[06:00] <Burnt-out> wick2o:      keeps ginving proftpd is started from inetd/xinitd msg
[06:00] <gandolfthewizard> but i will try again
[06:00] <dcordes> yes. but don't tell me to use the gnome panel please becaus that's what not working. i have this crappy special panel installed and then it disappeared. so i have eto disable it without gui
[06:00] <wick2o> so paste that message into google and do some reading
[06:00] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           must i remove proftpd and try re install
[06:01] <wick2o> you might want to do some research on that error first
[06:01] <wick2o> otherwise you wont learn anything
[06:01] <Zaggynl> dcordes, okay, so you don't have X or Gnome working
[06:01] <richee> how do I update to edgy eft
[06:01] <richee> ?
[06:01] <gandolfthewizard> this is what i got when i went to update
[06:01] <gandolfthewizard> : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/loc k - open (11 Resource temporarily unava ilable)
[06:01] <gandolfthewizard> E: Unable to lock the administration di rectory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another pr ocess using it?
[06:01] <dcordes> both is working. only my gnome panel is gone :-) and i don't know how do access shit without it
[06:01] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           ya googleing now
[06:01] <richee> !edgy
[06:01] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:02] <gandolfthewizard> it looks like it is trying to read my cd drive?
[06:02] <w30> xyzzy_bill, Maybe Linux is Finnish but the whole world jumped on the band wagon a long time ago.
[06:02] <Zaggynl> dcordes, me neither, there is a file with services at /etc/something
[06:02] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: close the app (synaptic)
[06:02] <Burnt-out> what is the easiest to configure ftp server and is there any that have kde admin app
[06:02] <dcordes> i'm really wondrin why nobody is able to give me this short path
[06:02] <wick2o> Burnt-out: you giving up already? how lame
[06:02] <dcordes> where is the startup file people? for the specific sessions!
[06:03] <wick2o> .bashrc ?
[06:03] <host_> in the kernel repository, what's the difference in linux-2.6.18.tar.gz  and linux-2.6.18.tar.bz2 ?? just different packaging?
[06:03] <Burnt-out> no just need to get it working will play with the test machine
[06:03] <dcordes> i mean there have to be at least 300 people who know this
[06:03] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to keep a package from installing?
[06:03] <xyzzy_bill> w30, Yep.  Still, Ubutu has pledged a free copy for anyone, forever.  RedHat controls Fedora, and could take it off-line any time they like.
[06:04] <dcordes> where are the startup entries for the specific sessions?
[06:04] <gandolfthewizard> ok that is done
[06:04] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: what is done? :)
[06:04] <gandolfthewizard> the update
[06:05] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: ok. sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:05] <gandolfthewizard> still couldn't find it
[06:05] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           it says that i don't need to restart the service as whenever an ftp session is opened xinetd starts the proftp service from scratch
[06:05] <luckyone> hello all - how do I start debuging why X.org isn't starting?
[06:06] <krunchi1920> can anybody help me about transition from windows to ubuntu
[06:06] <w30> xyzzy_bill, with Linux, any Linux a fork is possible to keep it going. Any thing worth "keeping going" would fork into a new project.
[06:06] <mercio> oi
[06:06] <luckyone> krunchii1920, download the install cd and boot from it
[06:06] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: ??? paste your source.list to pastebin plse?
[06:06] <Lattyware> Hey all.
[06:06] <gandolfthewizard> what is the soure list
[06:07] <luckyone> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:07] <slacktyro> I'm having bug problems with my sound, I hope when i finish to upgrade it'll be fixed, anyone got anything like that?
[06:07] <Lattyware> I am running Ubuntu, and I have recently started loosing my DNS server names at every boot.
[06:07] <luckyone> gandolfthewizard -> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:07] <Lattyware> I have to reset them, which is beyond annoying.
[06:07] <wick2o> Burnt-out:  its called troubleshooting, you didnt know what to try so i made a valid suggestion based on the fact that you changed config files
[06:07] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           so then the question is why can't i access the ftp account....using root or ftp
[06:07] <wick2o> in fact ive never setup proftpd
[06:07] <snowblink> Lattyware, dhcp?
[06:07] <IcemanV9> eifzon: ask in the channel plse. there are lots of us here who can help. :)
[06:07] <Lattyware> Nope, static IP
[06:08] <gandolfthewizard> what is the pastbin link please
[06:08] <IcemanV9> !paste
[06:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:08] <dcordes> what is the file where the startup entries for the sessions are saved?
[06:08] <dcordes> is it my nickname or what
[06:08] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           do u use any ftp daemon that works for u
[06:09] <__gotcha> I have setup tightvncserver
[06:09] <eifzon> I have just bought a new computer, Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 CPU, i wonder why i get this when iam trying to install ubuntu: Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel, it just hangs up there and i have waited for about 30min and nothing happends, whats the problem, can somebody help me?
[06:09] <__gotcha> I can access from remote
[06:09] <wick2o> ive used ftpd for a quick fix
[06:09] <__gotcha> but get a gray screen/no gnome
[06:09] <wick2o> but normally i dont all ftp to my linux machines
[06:09] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           had similar issues with that
[06:09] <gandolfthewizard> here is  the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26607/
[06:10] <__gotcha> anyone can tell me how to get gnome started when connecting to the machine  with vnc ?
[06:10] <wick2o> your problem is not the software you uare using but more of a pebkac, you need to take an error
[06:10] <wick2o> and spend some time with google
[06:10] <wick2o> and follow each link to you figure out what your doing wrong
[06:10] <dcordes> what is the file where the startup entries for the sessions are saved?
[06:11] <krayzone> "how to use the internet for troubleshooting" = Google
[06:11] <krayzone> lol
[06:11] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           the problem is i have been on this for the past 3 weeks with no success...each site says somthing else even u have given me totally diffirent things to do, so i have been doing my reading
[06:11] <slacktyro> I'm having bug problems with my sound, I hope when i finish to upgrade it'll be fixed, anyone got anything like that?
[06:11] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: multiverse is not enabled - i fixed it -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26608/
[06:12] <dcordes> what is the file where the startup entries for the sessions are saved when google won't help?
[06:12] <wick2o> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p1
[06:12] <wick2o> have you seen this?
[06:12] <gandolfthewizard> how do i enable it
[06:12] <wick2o> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p2
[06:12] <wick2o> sorry wrong link
[06:13] <wick2o> follow the next links, i think they talk about ftp in there
[06:13] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           been to howtoforge.com before but waiting for the page to load and will let u know
[06:13] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           says access denied
[06:13] <krayzone> startup entries are usually stored within the home folder of the user that is being logged in.
[06:13] <gandolfthewizard> how do i enable multiverse
[06:14] <slacktyro> after i installed ubuntu i can't access www.falconryquestions.co.uk , how can i solve it???
[06:14] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           on ftp waiting now
[06:14] <dcordes> krayzone: wow thanks. but where exactly can i find it? the home folder is full of stuff
[06:14] <krayzone> dcrodes: I dont remember what the name of the startup session file, but what are you trying to do exactly?
[06:14] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: just add "multiverse" at the end to line 16 & 17
[06:14] <krayzone> dcoredes: its a hidden file. Give me one second
[06:14] <xavier> whts the easiest way to install mythtv on ubuntu ?  anything like Automatix for Mythtv?
[06:14] <dcordes> i want to prevent a certain application from starting at the beginning of my xgl session.
[06:15] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           u pointing to the proftp admin section?
[06:15] <dcordes> but i can't disable it in the normal session manager because i can't access it without my normal gnome panel (it's gone)
[06:16] <slacktyro> after i installed ubuntu i can't access www.falconryquestions.co.uk , how can i solve it???
[06:17] <dcordes> with which command can i start the session manager that can be reached from the ubuntu settings menu?
[06:17] <gandolfthewizard> how do i add it to it
[06:17] <Samuli^> slacktyro, are you promoting the site, or actually asking for help?
[06:17] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[06:18] <Samuli^> sourceS
[06:18] <Burnt-out> wick2o:           got the download page will download and if u still here when i have figured out how to install the unpacked files will let u know
[06:18] <slacktyro> Samuli^: asking for help
[06:18] <Zaggynl> dcordes, /usr/share/gnome/default.session
[06:18] <krayzone> If I understand your problem correctly, you want to launch your XGL, without something else starting with it correct?
[06:18] <Zaggynl> source : man gnome-session
[06:18] <IcemanV9> sources.list*
[06:18] <Samuli^> slacktyro, but you can connect to everywhere else on the net?
[06:18] <slacktyro> Samuli^: yep
[06:18] <slacktyro> Samuli^: i need to enter in this site
[06:19] <j^2> hey all
[06:19] <Samuli^> sorry, can't help you with that. Opens up fine on my browser so it's not the site.
[06:19] <dcordes> Zaggynl: thanks man
[06:19] <Rookie_> !mp3blaster
[06:19] <j^2> i'm looking for a place net/sys admins hang out, any suggestions?
[06:19] <ubotu> mp3blaster: Full-screen console mp3 and ogg vorbis player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.2.0-7 (dapper), package size 191 kB, installed size 612 kB
[06:19] <slacktyro> Samuli^: which browser are you using?
[06:19] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: once you finished edit the sources.list, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:19] <Samuli^> slacktyro, firefox
[06:19] <Zaggynl> You're welcome :)
[06:19] <slacktyro> Samuli^: same of me
[06:20] <slacktyro> Samuli^: i don't know what do do more
[06:20] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I turn off kernel messaging to tty1?
[06:20] <fourat> what's the equivalent of debian's debootstrap command on ubuntu ? or how to use it with ubuntu ?
[06:20] <fdsd> Anyone know why there is no fsck.hfsplus or fsck.hfs included when you install ubuntu ppc?
[06:21] <gepatino> fourat: it works the same way as in debian
[06:23] <slacktyro> after i installed ubuntu i can't access www.falconryquestions.co.uk , how can i solve it???
[06:23] <gandolfthewizard> is t sudo apt-get install what
[06:24] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:25] <ozubu> hi all
[06:25] <sureshot> gandolfthewizard like the nick
[06:25] <IcemanV9> his magic doesn't work atm ;)
[06:25] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I turn off kernel messaging to tty1?
[06:25] <sureshot> hehehe
[06:26] <whyso> hi, a few quick newbie questions i appreciate any help :): 1. i just downloaded the normal dapper drake CD, can i use it as a live cd? (sorta confused on that)
[06:26] <ozubu> hi all
[06:26] <mjr> whyso, yes
[06:26] <boink> whyso: yes
[06:26] <whyso> thanks
[06:26] <IcemanV9> whyso: yes
[06:27] <ged_> hello all
[06:27] <pitt0071> hi
[06:27] <gandolfthewizard> is there an easier way to ge multiverse enabled?t
[06:27] <Ropechoborra> !cam
[06:27] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:27] <Ropechoborra> !webcam
[06:27] <ozubu> does anyone know of a good way of synchronizing to evolution calanders, without setting-up a server ?
[06:27] <fromvega> Hello
[06:27] <Gorbulas> hello
[06:28] <pitt0071> im trying to compile ieee for ipw2200... so far, no success, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26610/ here is the output, anyone? thks
[06:29] <ged_> Can anybody help me with the following problem? I modified my /etc/sudoers file by hand and now I can't use any of the GUI configuration tools: users-admin, network-admin and so on. It tells me "The configuration could not be loaded".
[06:29] <davin> Correct me if I'm wrong, Gnumeric is a good replacement for Excel?
[06:29] <ged_> davin: correct
[06:29] <fromvega> I have downloaded Ubuntu 6.06 CD but I don't know how to install it. I boot from the CD and there is an option Start or Install Ubuntu or something like that, but when I select it, it just runs the Live Ubuntu and does not present any installation... could you help-me?
[06:29] <AvatarX> Hello All.
[06:29] <davin> ged_: do you want me to upload a stock sudoers dapper file?
[06:29] <Gorbulas> does anyone know if there are any plans to have Linux CDs on sale next to Windows CDs when Vista is released?
[06:29] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: ??? what's the problem?
[06:29] <ged_> davin: but maybe you could try OpenOffice calc. More powerfull (but slower)
[06:29] <mjr> davin, it's a good spreadsheet program. To what extent it is a "replacement for Excel" is more vague, but its function set is comparable
[06:30] <whyso> does ubuntu support esata?
[06:30] <wick2o> once in the live cd
[06:30] <davin> mjr: okay :)
[06:30] <wick2o> double click on the icon that says "install"
[06:30] <ged_> davin: that would help me (I guess) so please do.
[06:30] <mjr> (actually, Gnumeric has more functions, esp. for statistician use)
[06:30] <macdo> My PC is plugged into an amp via coaxial cable - but I don't get any sound. Any ideas ?
[06:30] <davin> ged_: okay hold on
[06:30] <jesse__> hi I'm tring to upgrade hoary to breezy, getting the following error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26612/
[06:30] <fromvega> thank you wick2o, I will look for the icon ;)
[06:31] <Gorbulas> it would be awesome if some company like Walmart set up some computers with the Ubuntu live CD :)
[06:31] <boggle> macdo: worst thing that every happened to me: does the amp have sound? (I disassembled the PC once because of this ...)
[06:31] <boggle> macdo: s/amp/power
[06:31] <pitt0071> folks, what is the problem with make here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26610/
[06:32] <davin> pit0071: Cant reach /etc/sudoers?
[06:32] <richee> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[06:32] <richee> I am getting this error
[06:32] <macdo> boggle: amp has power, works from Windows...
[06:32] <davin> ged_: gonna upload it now
[06:32] <gandolfthewizard> how do i get the source list again
[06:32] <richee> can anyone help?
[06:32] <whyso> what file system is good for a operating system partitian? resier ?
[06:32] <Gorbulas> pitt0071: it looks like you might have set the path to the kernel incorrectly
[06:32] <Gorbulas> or modules path
[06:33] <soundray> whyso: ext3
[06:33] <Gorbulas> can't read /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build//build/.config: No such file or directory
[06:33] <whyso> thanks
[06:33] <fourat> what do you suggest someone that need to edit a file on a shell where there's no vi/vim/pico ?
[06:33] <pitt0071> davin, im in sudoers
[06:33] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:33] <davin> pitt0071: whats the problem?
[06:33] <host`> fourat, mc
[06:33] <pitt0071> Gorbulas, hmm, how should i reset it
[06:33] <soundray> fourat: nano
[06:33] <Gorbulas> I don't know, but that appears to be the problem
[06:33] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: add 'multiverse' after universe, then save it
[06:33] <whyso> i just bought en external HD (and am about to install ubuntu) i should NOT use the drivers that came with it right?
[06:33] <macdo> as far as I can see, alsamixer looks OK
[06:34] <IcemanV9> gandolfthewizard: once you finished edit the sources.list, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:34] <ged_> fourat: nano or mcedit
[06:34] <macd> richee, try 'sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*' then 'sudp apt-get update'
[06:34] <soundray> whyso: are you installing Ubuntu *on* that HD?
[06:34] <pitt0071> davin, im trying to compile the drivers for ipw2200, im following one of the guides, but there are problems at the start with compiling ieee http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26610/
[06:34] <whyso> no its USB :)
[06:34] <whyso> would be sooo slow
[06:34] <Gorbulas> whyso: usually external hard drives are all usable with the same drivers unless you have Windows 98 or older
[06:35] <soundray> whyso: USB 2.0 is not too bad, but never mind -- you're doing the right thing not putting the system on it :-)
[06:35] <M_A_K> Can someone have a look at http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/201113 and help me figure out how to fix a problem?
[06:35] <macd> usb2.0 would be just as fast as ata,
[06:35] <whyso> oh ok thanks
[06:35] <ged_> davin: where did you/will you upload the file?
[06:35] <soundray> whyso: you won't need any drivers that don't already come with Ubuntu to use the HD.
[06:35] <whyso> (didnt know was as fast as ata
[06:35] <davin> ged_: well I tried rapidshare.de but didnt work, know any quick file uploader?
[06:35] <davin> pitt0071: you got the header flies for your kernel?
[06:35] <whyso> ah ok, usb drivers built in == good :)
[06:36] <Tams> hey
[06:36] <pitt0071> davin, yes /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386
[06:36] <macd> M_A_K, 'sudo apt get install libc6 libc6-dev'
[06:36] <davin> ged_: wait I got one
[06:36] <boggle> macdo: are the drivers for the soundcard loaded? (lsmod). Are there any related errors or messages in /var/log/messages?
[06:36] <M_A_K> Says already newest version.
[06:36] <davin> ged_: http://www.freewebs.com/shinzetsu/sudoers
[06:37] <macd> M_A_K, thats really wierd, b/c your missing dependency is in one of those packages.
[06:37] <Alzi2> How to reinstall a package?
[06:37] <soundray> Alzi2: 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename'
[06:37] <Alzi2> without removing it first? (it's a package in the ubuntu-desktop)
[06:37] <gnomefreak> Alzi2: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[06:37] <Alzi2> soundray: Thanks ^^
[06:37] <ged_> davin: btw; I don't know if you are just a user or more into it but I guess there is a bug somewhere because the file is valid for normal sudo... only the graphical admin tools don't work anymore...
[06:37] <M_A_K> macd : how do I correct this?
[06:37] <M_A_K> will a --reinstall work?
[06:37] <davin> ged_: because they used gksudo?
[06:37] <macd> M_A_K, you can try dpkg reinstall but I dont think thats the problem
[06:38] <davin> pitt0071: this particular line here.. '15. sed: can't read /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build//build/.config: No such file or directory' look if that exists?
[06:38] <ged_> davin: your file seems empty...
[06:38] <davin> pitt0071: I think I see why, its /build//build with 2 dashes
[06:38] <davin> ged_: hang on
[06:38] <ged_> davin: I don't know if they use gksudo or whatnow
[06:38] <M_A_K> Im somewhat of linux newbie.  Syntax ?  dpkg reinstall libc6?
[06:39] <Alzi2> How to configure GNOME's window manager?
[06:39] <davin> ged_: argh, sudoers is only accessible as root, when I upload it its empty
[06:39] <soundray> Alzi2: what aspect of it do you want to configure?
[06:39] <davin> M_A_K: dpkg -i <package> ?
[06:39] <Alzi2> soundray: Workspaces.
[06:39] <ged_> davin: you should be able to copy it as root to another file then change perms on it
[06:40] <davin> ged_: of course, hang on
[06:40] <host`> what exactly is this stuff in /usr/incluse/asm?
[06:40] <Alzi2> soundray: I want to be able that, if i drag a window to the side, it switches workspace.
[06:40] <pitt0071> davin, it does exist... but it should be  /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build/.config
[06:40] <soundray> Alzi2: right click on the workspace panel applet, select Preferences
[06:40] <soundray> Alzi2: oh, that's advanced
[06:40] <M_A_K> davin : thanks
[06:40] <M_A_K> Ill try it.
[06:40] <Alzi2> soundray: Does it require gconf?
[06:40] <J-_> is it hard to set up compiz?
[06:40] <Alzi2> J-_: No.
[06:41] <Alzi2> J-_: Also.. try Beryl.
[06:41] <soundray> Alzi2: I think so -- but I'm not sure whether even gconf will let you configure that
[06:41] <davin> pitt0071: try to open the script with gedit and alter it? I dunno, did it find the headers itself?
[06:41] <davin> pitt0071: or did you have to enter the location?
[06:41] <soundray> Alzi2: I'll have a look while you do, too :)
[06:41] <J-_> Alzi2: thanks, i'll check it out
[06:41] <whyso> you can switch from gnome to kde or xgl/compics after you install right?
[06:41] <Alzi2> soundray: Okay :)
[06:41] <Alzi2> J-_: No prob :)
[06:42] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I turn off kernel messaging to tty1?
[06:42] <davin> ged_: http://www.freewebs.com/shinzetsu/sudoers
[06:42] <whyso> whats reason for a whole extra version (kubuntu) if you can?
[06:42] <pitt0071> davin, it found it itself.. so which script should i alter :)
[06:42] <Alzi2> soundray: Also.. my ubuntulooks theme (Which I tried to reinstall..)... at window creation, some buttons get either black, yellow or blue and that annoys me. How to fix this?
[06:42] <macd> whyso, b/c some people like gnome and some people like KDE.
[06:42] <davin> pitt0071: is it a file?
[06:42] <davin> pitt0071: oh its make huh
[06:42] <M_A_K> Hmm, dpkg -i libc6 returned errors.  No such file or directory
[06:43] <macdo> boggle: drivers loaded; no related errors in /var/log/messages that I can see
[06:43] <davin> pitt0071: try to gedit make and see if you can find the wrong line and correct it (make a backup first just in case)
[06:43] <jessid> hello, some of you know if is possible to boot from an usb memory stick? I want to try a live cd, but dont have a CD to burn the iso, jejeje....
[06:43] <whyso> so it usually does/doesnt work to try and change windows managers?
[06:43] <davin> pitt0071: cp /path/to/original/make /path/to/backup/make
[06:43] <macd> M_A_K,  dpkg -i thejavapackagenamehere
[06:44] <davin> macd: is it possible to dpkg -i without sudo?
[06:44] <ged_> davin: hartelijk dank
[06:44] <pitt0071> davin, ok thanks, working on it
[06:44] <macd> no
[06:44] <M_A_K> macdo: I am not trying to install java. I am trying to install software for a smartboard (I am a teacher).
[06:44] <davin> ged_: anytime ;-)
[06:44] <ged_> davin: I don't know if it's correct dutch (my dutch is rusty)
[06:44] <macd> M_A_K, the error you posted was the sun java runtime package
[06:45] <davin> pitt0071: The 'make' script seems to be wrong in detecting/looking for the header files in the wrong directory so thats why you have to edit it
[06:45] <davin> ged_: its perfect :-)
[06:45] <jesse__> can someone help me with hoary to breezy upgrade problems? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26612/
[06:45] <M_A_K> macd : I see that in the path.  It is part of a software install for the smartboard.
[06:45] <boink> ged_ hartelijk bedankt
[06:45] <binaryjay> exit
[06:45] <kmaynard> try this
[06:45] <kmaynard> !dapper
[06:45] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[06:46] <boink> !lts
[06:46] <ubotu> lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[06:46] <soundray> Alzi2: I think metacity might be too basic for what you want -- although there seems to be an edge-flipping patch if you search the web.
[06:46] <macd> M_A_K, did you install the package build-essential ?
[06:46] <ExitMenu> hello is it possible to install multiple version of wine at the same time using synaptic
[06:46] <ged_> boink: hehe :)
[06:46] <[newbe] > hi
[06:46] <pitt0071> davin, right, the make i need to edit is the one from /usr/bin/make ?
[06:46] <soundray> Alzi2: I know fvwm2 has this feature.
[06:46] <M_A_K> macd dont know what you mean.
[06:46] <delight> hi, does somebody now if there is a backport (repository) of OpenOffice 2.0.4 for ubuntu 6.06 (dapper drake) ?
[06:46] <davin> ged_ boink: dank is shortened version of bedankt, anyway it should go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:46] <kmaynard> breezy is close to being dropped isnt it?
[06:46] <soundray> Alzi2: no idea about your button colours, sorry.
[06:46] <macd> M_A_K,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:46] <host`>  "Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the QT development package is correctly installed and either install pkg-config or set the QTDIR environment variable to the correct location."
[06:46] <boink> davin: sometimes we're human .. sometimes we chat
[06:46] <kmaynard> !breezy
[06:46] <ubotu> breezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"
[06:47] <davin> pitt0071: I dont know, the one youre trying to run to compile the drivers
[06:47] <host`> how do I set the qtdir, anyone know?
[06:47] <davin> boink: hehe
[06:47] <host`> or is there a better place to ask questions about the kernel
[06:47] <slacktyro> after i installed ubuntu i can't access www.falconryquestions.co.uk , how can i solve it???
[06:47] <M_A_K> Ok, I guess not because it is installing now.
[06:47] <M_A_K> Thanks
[06:47] <macd> host, do you have qt4-dev-tools installed?
[06:47] <J-_> http://www.beryl-project.org/themes/vista_theme.png that looks nice, i just hope when i do install compiz, that my cpu can handle it =D
[06:47] <macd> np M_A_K
[06:48] <soundray> slacktyro: I have no problem with that site. What browser are you using?
[06:48] <pitt0071> davin, yes so it should be that one. but i can't view the file... UTF-8 or other standards don't work there :/
[06:48] <M_A_K> Still get error when I install the smartboard software
[06:48] <host`> I'll see
[06:48] <slacktyro> soundray: firefox
[06:48] <davin> For some akward unknown reason Compiz/Beryl (whatever Xgl) locks up my PC when installed/ran, but then again Im using a Compaq Presario too
[06:48] <slacktyro> soundray: what can it be?
[06:48] <davin> pitt0071: did you try sudo? or nano instead of gedit
[06:48] <jessid>  hello, some of you know if is possible to boot from an usb memory stick? I want to try a live cd, but dont have a CD to burn the iso, jejeje..
[06:48] <host`> nope, I'm getting it now
[06:49] <host`> thanls
[06:49] <host`> thanks
[06:49] <macdo> boggle: if this helps, I can get slight breakthrough on the amp - so presumably the sound card is working...
[06:49] <macd> M_A_K, since all the dependencies are satisfied on the ubuntu side, try contacting 'smartboard' support
[06:49] <M_A_K> I did.  They are unable to help.
[06:49] <soundray> slacktyro: can you access any other sites?
[06:49] <M_A_K> I had it installed before I re-formatted my HD to reclaim some partitions etc.
[06:49] <slacktyro> soundray: yep
[06:50] <soundray> slacktyro: including www.soundray.org?
[06:50] <macd> M_A_K, honestly I don't know whereto steer you
[06:50] <M_A_K> Thanks anyway.
[06:50] <host`> macd, now I do have it installed and it's giving me the same error
[06:50] <richee> how do I restore my sources.list back from the one edgy eft edited
[06:50] <pitt0071> davin, yes but there are only signs like %%%$%^^$ etc
[06:51] <slacktyro> soundray: yep, linus'area, lucy's area etc
[06:51] <davin> pitt0071: are you trying to use ndiswrapper?
[06:51] <soundray> richee: see if any backups have been created: 'ls /etc/apt/sources.*'
[06:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell richee about easysource
[06:51] <soundray> slacktyro: what error does firefox give you?
[06:51] <macd> host` what are you trying to install? does it have a place to specify the qt path? if so utilize that
[06:51] <host`> macd, I'm trying to make xconfig a kernel
[06:51] <pitt0071> davin, nope
[06:52] <davin> pitt0071: I have no clue
[06:52] <macd> host` make xconfig a kernel?
[06:52] <macd> say what?
[06:52] <host`> 'make xconfig
[06:52] <host`> to build a kernel
[06:52] <iter> M_A_K: what's the error for smartboard
[06:52] <macd> off you wanna compile a new kernel
[06:52] <iter> we use that sw all the imt
[06:52] <boggle> macdo: isn't that only static?
[06:52] <iter> time that is
[06:52] <macd> host` just use 'make menuconfig'
[06:53] <pitt0071> davin, ok thanks anyway :) ill try to sort it out
[06:53] <host`> that's the frontend for make menuconfig
[06:53] <boggle> macdo: i guess the volume is also up?
[06:53] <M_A_K> iter : http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/201113
[06:53] <host`> ohh, alright
[06:53] <XsesA> hello
[06:53] <XsesA> just installed linux :)
[06:53] <macd> yeah its pretty much the same ;P
[06:53] <XsesA> ubuntu
[06:53] <XsesA> buttt i have a problem :)
[06:53] <soundray> XsesA: Congrats
[06:53] <XsesA> after i choose windows on the boot screen
[06:53] <xavier> hey when i open a deb package (opera.deb) Ark opens up and yells "the utility is not in your PATH" help!
[06:53] <davin> pitt0071: good luck1
[06:53] <XsesA> it never asks me again
[06:53] <XsesA> what i want to boot
[06:53] <XsesA> automaticlly windows
[06:53] <M_A_K> what is the 't' in rwt for perms on /tmp for world?
[06:53] <J-_> damn, compiz is still beta... guess i won't be trying it out for a while heh
[06:54] <Xal2> Is the next linux kernel likely to include jmicron IDE drivers?
[06:54] <XsesA> help?
[06:54] <slacktyro> soundray: time out
[06:54] <XsesA> after i chose windows one time, it doesn't show me the boot screen anymore
[06:54] <gandolfthewizard> hi ice
[06:54] <jrib> M_A_K: sticky
[06:54] <iter> M_A_K: apt-get install libstdc++6
[06:55] <macd> Xal2, try kernel.org changelog ;P
[06:55] <macd> iter, hah nice call, I was thinking libc6-dev
[06:55] <soundray> XsesA: try these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:55] <Heldon> Hello, new to ubuntu. Is there a way to get a GUI interface with the LAMP server?
[06:55] <Xal2> I'll need it to be a kernel compiled for Ubuntu.
[06:55] <XsesA> ok thx
[06:55] <ged_> davin: as I thought, it didn't help :( sudo still works... as does gksudo... But it seems like the command launched in the menu are without any form of sudo... Do you know how it's supposed to work?
[06:55] <Xal2> I can't get into a CD based Linux environment
[06:55] <XsesA> and another thing
[06:55] <XsesA> what's the root pass?
[06:55] <M_A_K> jrib : what does sticky mean?
[06:55] <Shadow_mil> XsesA: same as your user pass
[06:55] <XsesA> hmm
[06:56] <XsesA> ok
[06:56] <davin> ged_: not really sorry
[06:56] <Shadow_mil> edgy eft comes out the 26th right?
[06:56] <buu> Heldon: apt-get install one
[06:56] <davin> ged_: I cant seem to figure out the problem
[06:56] <M_A_K> iter : already installed.
[06:56] <iter> M_A_K: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/hp/hpux-faq/section-70.html
[06:56] <iter> sticky bit
[06:56] <kmaynard> Shadow_mil, im running it now :)
[06:56] <Crissi> hi
[06:56] <davin> Renan_s2: RC1?
[06:56] <ged_> davin: thx anyway for your trouble
[06:56] <gandolfthewizard> no i get this when i try to ryn he java install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26621/
[06:56] <Crissi> i just downloaded the etchy live dvd for installing
[06:56] <macdo> boggle: no, i can (behind the static) 'hear' the music
[06:56] <davin> ged_: Anytime, im sorry
[06:56] <iter> M_A_K: apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[06:56] <Shadow_mil> kmaynard: your running beta, I am talking final version
[06:56] <soundray> slacktyro: are you behind some sort of web filter? Parental controls? (Not sure why they would block falconryquestions...)
[06:57] <Crissi> withing the installing the base system the install crashed
[06:57] <Crissi> its buggy
[06:57] <kmaynard> Shadow_mil, 26 or 27
[06:57] <xavier> hi .. trouble installing opera
[06:57] <xavier> Reading package lists... Done
[06:57] <xavier> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:57] <xavier> E: Couldn't find package opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[06:57] <Shadow_mil> Ill put 27 on my count down timer :)
[06:57] <xavier> help
[06:57] <jrib> ubotu: tell xavier about opera
[06:57] <slacktyro> soundray: i just installed the ubuntu from that live cd, nothing about firewalls
[06:58] <M_A_K> iter : same problem still
[06:58] <soundray> slacktyro: I don't mean local software -- I mean the network that your machine is on.
[06:58] <M_A_K> I look in /tmp and there .is no install.dir.#  directory
[06:58] <ged_> So is there anybody here who can explain me how the *-admin apps (network-admin, users-admin, ...) get root access? It seems like the menuitems pointing to them doesn't contain any gksudo or the like. So on my system I cannot run the anymore, except by opening a terminal and lauching them with sudo/gksudo manually (or as root of course)
[06:59] <slacktyro> soundray: i think there're not related with that
[06:59] <jrib> M_A_K: what are you installing?
[06:59] <M_A_K> jrib : trying to install smartboard software.
[06:59] <iter> M_A_K: dpkg -l | grep libstdc
[06:59] <gandolfthewizard> i'm stillhaving trouble trying to get java i just pasted the pastbin site to see what is wrong any ideas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26621/
[07:00] <iter> M_A_K: also do ldconfig
[07:00] <iter> M_A_K: /sbin/ldconfig that is
[07:00] <soundray> slacktyro: well, since you can access other sites, and I can access the site that you want, the problem does not lie with ubuntu or firefox.
[07:00] <xavier> jrib: is there a pppoe client which can run standalone to connect to my ISP? i am currently using "pon dsl-provider" everytime i need to get to the internet .. and if my ISP disconnects me ... i have to manually re dial ... need an automatic PPPOE client software running in the tray
[07:00] <M_A_K> iter : /sbin/ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied
[07:00] <soundray> slacktyro: so looking for some kind of network fault is the next logical step.
[07:01] <Lattyware> I am running Ubuntu, and I have recently started loosing my DNS server names at every boot.
[07:01] <Lattyware> I have to reset them, which is beyond annoying.
[07:01] <Lattyware> Anyone know why this is happening?
[07:01] <iter> M_A_K: you're doing all this as root right
[07:01] <xavier> soundray? M_A_K?
[07:01] <iter> M_A_K: open a root shell with sudo bash
[07:01] <jrib> xavier: I don't know
[07:01] <M_A_K> yes, as root
[07:01] <M_A_K> sudo that is
[07:02] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[07:02] <slacktyro> soundray: it's strange for me
[07:02] <xavier> also .. opera is not listed under anything in add remove programs
[07:02] <iter> M_A_K: that's fine, check /usr/local/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[07:02] <iter> M_A_K: make sure it exists
[07:02] <jrib> xavier: you have dapper commercial enabled?  Can you pastebin your sources.list?
[07:02] <soundray> xavier: there is a way to make ppp connections on demand -- check your /etc/ppp/options
[07:02] <M_A_K> iter : it does not
[07:03] <xavier> okay
[07:03] <iter> M_A_K: aha
[07:03] <iter> M_A_K: locate libstdc++.so.6
[07:03] <xavier> soundray: are you talking about "pppoeconf"?
[07:03] <ged_> <---- problem solved... It was a bad package version in edgy. Fixed problem by upgrading to latest package version. Sorry for the trouble...
[07:03] <soundray> xavier: no
[07:03] <M_A_K> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[07:04] <M_A_K> should I create a link from /usr/local/lib  to /usr/lib ?
[07:04] <iter> M_A_K: hmm well try ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/local/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[07:04] <gandolfthewizard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26623/
[07:04] <M_A_K> I guess that means I am starting to understand linux a little better?
[07:05] <xavier> soundray:  but will this give me a visual cue about my connection status?
[07:05] <soundray> xavier: 'sudo gedit /etc/ppp/options', scroll down and look for the line that says '#persist' and change it to 'persist'
[07:05] <iter> M_A_K: exactly
[07:05] <xavier> ok
[07:05] <M_A_K> iter : still same problem
[07:05] <jessid> HELLO!
[07:05] <iter> M_A_K: you have the lib installed just not in the right place for the java installer
[07:05] <jessid> some of you can read me?
[07:06] <jessid> please?
[07:06] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: you have dapper main commented (the first two lines), try uncommenting that
[07:06] <cadamuz_> hello
[07:07] <soundray> jessid: your test worked. Sometimes you have to restate or rephrase your question until someone competent is available to respond.
[07:07] <M_A_K> iter : so how to I correct this?
[07:07] <Justy-> hello
[07:07] <Justy-> I have a biiig problem
[07:07] <jessid> Justy talk
[07:07] <Justy-> Erm
[07:08] <iter> M_A_K: cd /usr/lib && ls libstdc++*
[07:08] <Justy-> First of all, I think I don't have sessions
[07:08] <Justy-> So I can only login with rescue terminal session :(
[07:08] <gandolfthewizard> any ideas
[07:08] <M_A_K> no such file or directory
[07:08] <iter> M_A_K: you're looking for libstdc++-libc6 something
[07:09] <Justy-> When I login with that, I can't also see the sessions menu item below System->Preferences
[07:09] <M_A_K> sorry, forgot the *
[07:09] <sureshot> hay all i have a sata to usb converter gparted and qtparted sees the drive and will try to set a patition on it when i go to fromat the drive it give an error and will not format can someone shed some light here
[07:09] <kaot> Any Xorg wizards kicking around?  I've got a laptop with a radeon card that's got a seperate vga out that I'm using to put another desktop on a seperate monitor, so I'm more or less dualheaded here, but I seem to only be getting 75dpi and I'm pretty sure the monitor can do better.
[07:09] <M_A_K> iter : there are several...including libstdc++.so.6 & libstdc++.so.6.0.7
[07:09] <kaot> (that's 75dpi according to xdpyinfo)
[07:10] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: did you try what I suggested?
[07:10] <iter> M_A_K: right libstdc++.so.6 should be a link to 6.0.7
[07:10] <xavier> soundray:  done ... now how do i get a connection status in my system tray ?
[07:11] <M_A_K> Yes.
[07:11] <gandolfthewizard> what was that
[07:11] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: you have dapper main commented (the first two lines), try uncommenting that
[07:11] <bam_> Hi I was wondering why I didnt have the "Display" option in my "Control Center" under "Peripherals" ?
[07:11] <bam_> any ideas?
[07:11] <jessid> soundray are you the one who might help me, please?
[07:11] <gandolfthewizard> how do i get the getit list
[07:12] <bam_> some app I'v forgetten to install?
[07:12] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:13] <M_A_K> iter : the error mentions libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 which  is not there.  Could this be the source of the problem?
[07:13] <Renan_s2> !info kdebase
[07:13] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 38 kB, installed size 76 kB
[07:14] <iter> M_A_K: yes I'm locating the package
[07:14] <jessid> soundray hello, dont know if you received my last message....i am a newbie or whatever it is said....jejeje...do you have any idea to help me???
[07:15] <xavier> !paste
[07:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:15] <gandolfthewizard> how do i uncomment the
[07:15] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: remove the # from the front of the first two lines
[07:15] <xavier> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26627/
[07:16] <gandolfthewizard> k
[07:16] <jrib> xavier: you don't have dapper commercial yet
[07:16] <xavier> jrib: wht do i do?
[07:16] <jrib> !opera
[07:16] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:17] <jrib> xavier: did you check "show commercial applications"?
[07:17] <M_A_K> iter : it seems that this error refers to RPM's?  Last year I installed limewire RPM by installing alien or something like that to assist in installing debian packages.  I wonder if that is what let me install this software last year?
[07:17] <soundray> jessid: was away for a minute -- will have a look
[07:18] <iter> M_A_K: is libstdc++6-dev installed? you might try that
[07:18] <soundray> jessid: sorry, can't find your question in my buffer.
[07:18] <jessid> soundray ok... let me tell you
[07:19] <M_A_K> iter : I'll check
[07:19] <xavier> jrib: in Adept Installer i have checked Show # unsupported and # proprietary software
[07:19] <jrib> xavier: so you are in kde, not gnome?
[07:19] <xavier> yes kde
[07:19] <jessid> soundray what I want to do is to try an iso image in an usb memory stick...it is a live cd: knoppix...I dont hae right now a Cd to burn the image o it...do you have any ideaif I can run it from this memory?
[07:20] <sillyxone> I'm sorry, I'm new to IRC. I have a question but don't know when I can jump in.
[07:20] <segfault_> !ask
[07:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:20] <Dr_willis> ask away
[07:20] <xavier> haha
[07:21] <soundray> jessid: in principle, it is possible to run Knoppix from a memory stick. This may not be the best channel to ask that. Have you stfw?
[07:21] <sillyxone> dapper, builtin card reader work on boot, but won't work after a suspend
[07:21] <M_A_K> iter : it was not apparently, so I installed it and still same problem.
[07:21] <soundray> jessid: sorry that means "Searched The Fine Web"
[07:21] <xavier> jrib: i have the deb for ubuntu 6.06 from opera.com .. i just need to install it .. donno how
[07:21] <jessid> soundray what is that?
[07:21] <jrib> xavier: k, I don't really know about adept.  It seems like that should work, but I don't know why it woudln't.  Let's close adept, and add it manually.  Add this to your sources.list:    deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[07:21] <iter> M_A_K: make sure that libstdcc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so is in /usr/lib
[07:21] <soundray> jessid ^^
[07:21] <segfault_> sillyxone, some modules dont like suspend and resume, try unloading the module prior to suspend and reloading after resume
[07:22] <IcemanV9> dpkg -i <packagename>
[07:22] <Kejk_PL> Hi, where I should report (seriouse!) bug in package from dapper-proposed repository?
[07:22] <jessid> soundray man, i am lost...jejeje
[07:22] <IcemanV9> sudo dpkg -i <packagename>*
[07:22] <jrib> xavier: erm, don't add that, add dapper, not edgy
[07:22] <jrib> xavier:  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[07:22] <M_A_K> iter : it is.
[07:22] <xavier> hmm okay .. just this one line?
[07:22] <nmsa> hello again
[07:22] <iter> M_A_K: then do ln -s libstdcc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[07:22] <jrib> !bugs
[07:22] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[07:22] <xavier> and update?
[07:23] <iter> M_A_K: oh snap wait
[07:23] <sillyxone> what modules is it? I tried sdhci, mmc_core (no mmc_block)?
[07:23] <soundray> jessid: stfw (Search The Fine Web) first, then head over to the #knoppix channel if you still need help.
[07:23] <iter> M_A_K: wrong paste heh
[07:23] <rick_> is there a bug irc list
[07:23] <CoraxX> disgraa  tudo em ingrs
[07:23] <iter> M_A_K: should be ln -s libstdcc+-libc6.2-2.so.3 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[07:23] <soundray> jessid: come back here if you have a Ubuntu question (or if everything else fails and you're stuck badly)
[07:23] <XsesA> umm
[07:24] <iter> M_A_K: needs an extra + in that first arg too
[07:24] <jessid> soundray jajaj
[07:24] <XsesA> any1 here who can help me booting/
[07:24] <jessid> ok...
[07:24] <segfault_> sillyxone, no idea try dmesg for some extra info there
[07:24] <nmsa> I asked before if someone knows raid, what is wrong with my config; I found the solution: partitions in raid must *not* be format before, mkfs.ext3 /dev/md0 will do the job fine and reboot will see nice the raid; thank you
[07:24] <soundray> XsesA: have you tried to reinstall grub as per the instructions?
[07:24] <jessid> soundray i thought there were any general process to do that...or give me a clue, please...
[07:24] <M_A_K> iter : nope.
[07:24] <soundray> jessid: to do what?
[07:24] <XsesA> no
[07:25] <XsesA> but i don't think it will help
[07:25] <XsesA> probably when i'll choose windows it will happen again
[07:25] <sillyxone> if I insert before suspend, dmesg show mmcblck1, but after suspend, nothing happen when I insert the card
[07:25] <jessid> soundray to use a downloaded iso to boot, or whatever it is called...english is not my native language, jejeje sorry
[07:26] <soundray> XsesA: it may do, but every reasonable person here will ask you to reinstall grub before you do any other fault searching.
[07:26] <iter> M_A_K: dang it
[07:26] <XsesA> oh dam
[07:26] <XsesA> i forgot the last command ^^
[07:26] <XsesA> i'll do it again :)
[07:26] <C-O-L-T> I can not use my microphone with Skype, nor with ubuntu. I use Dell Inspiron 1300 Notebook. Under windows my mic works smoothly
[07:26] <fildo> can anyone here help me with a ipw2100 wifi card
[07:26] <Alzi2> my ubuntulooks theme (Which I tried to reinstall..)... at window creation, some buttons get either black, yellow or blue and that annoys me. How to fix this?
[07:27] <soundray> jessid: it's my second language, too, so don't worry. Instructions for USB booting vary between distributions, so it's best to look for Knoppix advice in the Knoppix channel and web pages.
[07:27] <Justy-> Hello, my question is: I think I damaged my kernel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26632
[07:27] <jessid> soundray thats very clear! thanks again!!!
[07:28] <iter> M_A_K: can you just do apt-get install sun-java5-jre ?
[07:28] <xavier> hi.. need help setting a custom refresh rate supported by my monitor ... namely 1280x960@68 .. I am stuck at an eye watering 60 Hz :(
[07:29] <LjL> Justy-: is that Edgy?
[07:29] <soundray> Justy-: I don't think you have. Could you translate this to English for me: "Byle bir dosya ya da dizin yok" please
[07:29] <M_A_K> iter : already installed
[07:29] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: are you sure you don't have broken packages?
[07:29] <Justy-> LjL, no
[07:29] <iter> M_A_K: so you can run java -version ?
[07:29] <Justy-> soundray: There is no file or folder like that
[07:29] <sillyxone> xavier: are you talking about modeline?
[07:29] <M_A_K> iter : 1.5.0_6
[07:30] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, i have tried to reinstall, install initramfs-tools and usplash
[07:30] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: if it was a broken kernel it would winging on boot up
[07:30] <xavier> yes .. i tried replacing with the 68 hz settings ... but it doesnt reflect
[07:30] <xavier> it remains stuck at 60 hz
[07:30] <xavier> even after restarting X
[07:30] <xavier> at logon
[07:30] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, ?
[07:30] <xavier> first entry is "1280x960@68"
[07:31] <sillyxone> I think the modeline syntax something like this: <modename> <clock> <4 hoz timing> <4 ver timing>
[07:31] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: do you synaptic installed?
[07:31] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, yes
[07:31] <TheGateKeeper> have*
[07:31] <xavier> sillyxone: http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/modline.php?MODE=1&RE_VALUE=1280+960&FREQ=72
[07:31] <xavier> 72 sorry
[07:31] <xavier> i am using this setting
[07:31] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, i don't have GNOME session on logon screen
[07:32] <xavier> 1280x960@72hz
[07:32] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, i login with rescue terminal
[07:32] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: ahhhh
[07:32] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, then i type gnome-terminal, nautilus, gnome-panel and else
[07:32] <iter> M_A_K: you sure you did ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 /usr/lib/libstdc++-lib6c.1-1.so.2 ?
[07:32] <M_A_K> iter : in /usr/lib ?
[07:32] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, but i cannot run window manager in example
[07:32] <xavier> am using the default NV drivers
[07:33] <iter> M_A_K: you can run that from anywhere
[07:33] <iter> M_A_K: but yeah the two files are in /usr/lib
[07:33] <xavier> also my monitor does not TRUELY power OFF when idle for 5 minutes
[07:33] <M_A_K> Yes, I did
[07:33] <iter> M_A_K: double check please
[07:33] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, i mean gnome-window-properties
[07:33] <xavier> the screen just goes blank .. but it is consuming power .. not DTMF s3 standby
[07:34] <sillyxone> I once solve problem with nv driver splitting screen/white screen by adding -hsync -vsync at the end of the modeline
[07:34] <tag> bluetooth
[07:34] <xavier> sillyxone: i have replaced the original 1280x960 setting with the new ones .. still getting 60 hz
[07:34] <M_A_K> iter : lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      25 2006-10-13 13:24 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 -> libstdcc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[07:35] <tahorg> xavier: xset dpms force standby
[07:35] <iter> M_A_K: ahahhah
[07:35] <xavier> where tahorg? xterm?
[07:35] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, it outputs me "couldn't run. window manager "unknown" is not connected to a 'yaplandrma'(something like manager or build) device
[07:35] <iter> M_A_K: typo
[07:35] <tahorg> xavier: yes
[07:35] <Lunar_Lamp> how do i get rid of the black animation when minimising windows in gnome?
[07:35] <iter> M_A_K: take a look at that so.3
[07:35] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: can you chroot in & start X?
[07:35] <iter> M_A_K: it's dcc++ should be dc++
[07:35] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, what is chroot?
[07:36] <M_A_K> Aha
[07:36] <Lunar_Lamp> !chroot
[07:36] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:36] <xavier> tahorg: also did u read about my refresh rate sticking to 60 hz?? my monitor is capable of 72 hz
[07:36] <tahorg> xavier: you can specify when you want Xorg to blank the screen
[07:36] <tahorg> xavier: Option "StandbyTime"  "time"
[07:36] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, i dont use 64bit will it work?
[07:36] <iter> M_A_K: ln -sf /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 /usr/lib/libstdc++-lib6c.1-1.so.2
[07:36] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: Run a command with a different root directory  http://www.ss64.com/bash/chroot.html
[07:36] <XsesA> i'm still having problems :(
[07:37] <XsesA> no boot screen
[07:37] <xavier> tahorg: i tried the force standby .. the screen just goes blank .. no blinking light indicating a true standby s3 mode
[07:37] <iter> M_A_K: fudge another typo in there
[07:37] <xavier> am using a Nvidia card btw
[07:37] <tahorg> xavier: this is totally different
[07:37] <iter> M_A_K: can't type for ish right now
[07:37] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: will what work?
[07:37] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper chroot startx ?
[07:37] <XsesA> anyone????
[07:37] <iter> M_A_K: ln -sf /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[07:37] <XsesA> :|
[07:37] <tahorg> xavier: screen blank and ACPI S3 is different
[07:37] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, sorry =( give me command?
[07:37] <Lunar_Lamp> how do i get rid of the black animation when minimising windows in gnome?
[07:37] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, i have my laptop near me now installed ubuntu
[07:38] <xavier> no i mean the s mode where it consumes just ~5 watt .. my monitor remains hot all night!
[07:38] <tomarz> aqui no estas
[07:38] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: not that simple
[07:38] <XsesA> grrr
[07:38] <xavier> while Blank!
[07:38] <nmsa> !romana
[07:38] <XsesA> after i chose windows on the boot screen
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about romana - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <XsesA> it never asked me again which OS i want, it always starts windows
[07:38] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, but i didnt understand what i should do
[07:39] <soundray> !ro
[07:39] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.
[07:39] <tahorg> xavier: you mean, S3 is working but the screen is still up ?
[07:39] <tahorg> xavier: never seen that
[07:39] <xavier> when it is asleep .. my monitor light blinks
[07:39] <tahorg> xavier: ho, really weird
[07:39] <xavier> but when i typed xset "dpms force standby" .. it just goes blank ... and stays hot all night!!
[07:40] <Heldon> I'm getting a E: Couldn't find Package one when i try to do a apt-get install one. Is there something i'm missing?
[07:40] <soundray> xavier: have you tried "xset dpms force off"?
[07:40] <tahorg> xavier: xset "dpms force standby" just put your screen to sleep
[07:40] <xavier> hmm trying
[07:40] <M_A_K> iter : got farther, but another error... symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[07:40] <tahorg> xavier: not the entire laptop
[07:40] <XsesA> any1 who would like to help me? :(
[07:41] <jrib> Heldon: I don't think "one" is the actual name of a package, buu might have meant "apt-get install some package"
[07:41] <xavier> tahorg: xset dpms force off << same result .. no blinking light
[07:41] <Dominus_Suus> what's the matter, XsesA?
[07:41] <gepatino> help
[07:41] <XsesA> umm
[07:41] <XsesA> i installed ubuntu
[07:41] <XsesA> i restarted and chose to start ubuntu
[07:41] <buu> Heldon: Install. The. Package. Containing. A. Gui.
[07:41] <XsesA> on the next boot
[07:41] <soundray> XsesA: what happened after you reinstalled grub?
[07:41] <XsesA> i chose windows and after that
[07:41] <tahorg> xavier: how do you put your laptop to sleep ?
[07:41] <XsesA> it never asks me which OS i want to sue
[07:41] <tahorg> xavier: with the blinking lights ?
[07:41] <XsesA> i don't know how to reinstall grub |:
[07:41] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: if you boot up using a live cd, then mount you hard disk root file system then chroot in you effectively by pass the normal boot process on the hard disk, which then allows you to go in & fix things
[07:41] <XsesA> i can't even get into the ubuntu, just LIVECD
[07:41] <soundray> XsesA: did you do a full shutdown in windows?
[07:41] <XsesA> yep
[07:42] <xavier> i dont .,. i just want my monitor to go to sleep .. it does that in windows .. am on a Nforce Desktop PC btw
[07:42] <Heldon> buu: So I need to find the desktop version of the GUI and install it?
[07:42] <tahorg> XsesA: grub-install  '(hd0,0)'
[07:42] <soundray> XsesA: I've told you. The instructions are in...
[07:42] <soundray> XsesA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:42] <XsesA> soundray i did what it said there
[07:42] <XsesA> setup(hd1,5)
[07:42] <XsesA> i did
[07:42] <xavier> yes the monitor light blinks
[07:42] <XsesA> it didn't solve the prob
[07:42] <xavier> when in sleep mode
[07:42] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, i can run nautilus, applications
[07:42] <kismet_> on the UbuntuCD, how do I load up in non-graphical mode?
[07:42] <xavier> not the PC light :) monitor light blinks once a second
[07:42] <tahorg> xavier: juste the monitor so ?
[07:42] <tahorg> just
[07:42] <xavier> yes
[07:43] <tahorg> xavier: then configure it in xorg.conf
[07:43] <xavier> JUST the monitor small green indictor light
[07:43] <xavier> where? what?
[07:43] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, i will now boot with LiveCD can you tell me what to do ?
[07:43] <XsesA> i'll try the second method
[07:43] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: hang on...
[07:43] <soundray> XsesA: oh, so you put Ubuntu on the second hard disk?
[07:43] <joonas> why are the latest dapper php5 packages only 5.1.2?
[07:44] <host`> anyone familiar with compiling a kernel? here is what I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26639/
[07:44] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: I think you need someone with a bit more experience of this problem to help you out
[07:44] <XsesA> second partition
[07:44] <XsesA> yes
[07:44] <armatoste> hey hola a todos
[07:44] <armatoste> hehehe
[07:44] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, but there is noone here
[07:44] <soundray> XsesA: you will have to install grub to the first hard disk, nevertheless.
[07:44] <XsesA> how? ^^
[07:44] <J-_> How can I stop my usbdisk from openning up as a folder when I turn it on?
[07:45] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, i have 2 computers here
[07:45] <soundray> XsesA: so "setup (hd0)" is the command you need.
[07:45] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, so can't you help me?
[07:45] <XsesA> ok
[07:45] <M_A_K> iter : is this the same proble with links do you think?
[07:45] <XsesA> thanks
[07:45] <jrib> Justy-:
[07:45] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, I am talking at windows on a PC and there is ubuntu on a laptop
[07:45] <xavier> okay bbq l8r .. thnx all
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: I think you need someone better than me
[07:45] <jrib> J-_: system > preferences > removable drives and media
[07:45] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, ook =(
[07:45] <XsesA> i'll give it a try :)
[07:45] <soundray> J-_: set that in System-Preferences-Removable Drives...
[07:46] <J-_> soundray: thanks
[07:46] <soundray> J-_: thank jrib. jrib was faster :)
[07:46] <armatoste> princ aqui no hay vida men
[07:46] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, thanks anyway.. =(
[07:46] <J-_> err thanks jrib =D
[07:47] <sureshot> hey i have a sata to usb converter device manager sees it but i can format it .. the dirve is a 250gb is there anything special i have to do to get it to work
[07:47] <jrib> J-_: np :)
[07:47] <Justy-> soundray, can you help me?
[07:47] <iter> M_A_K: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:7thss7kMU7sJ:www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11775.html+symbol+__libc_wait,+version+GLIBC_2.0+not+defined+in+file+libc.so.6+with+link+time&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3
[07:47] <iter> ouch
[07:47] <soundray> Justy-: your error log says "Byle bir dosya ya da dizin yok". I can't understand that. If I could, then *maybe* I could help.
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: I know it's important to you that is why I am suggesting you find the right person to help, I don't think that I am that person
[07:47] <iter> M_A_K: basically you have newer libraries than smartboard likes
[07:48] <Justy-> soundray, i can translate, it is "file not found"
[07:48] <Justy-> TheGateKeeper, I hope i can find that person
[07:48] <HundredGLarge> http://www.galleries.badgirlsblog.com/albums/brealynn/3073/19i676.html
[07:48] <HundredGLarge> http://www.galleries.badgirlsblog.com/albums/brealynn/3073/19i676.html
[07:48] <shrewder> is there anybody from Poland, with some xp. in configuring Neostrada. prv me pls.
[07:48] <TheGateKeeper> Justy-: me too :-)
[07:48] <HundredGLarge> so hawt
[07:49] <iter> M_A_K: googling suggests setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL variable
[07:49] <soundray> Justy-: is this edgy or dapper?
[07:49] <Justy-> soundray, dapper 6.06 LTS
[07:49] <M_A_K> iter : I don't know how to do that.
[07:49] <armatoste> a vaina el top
[07:49] <armatoste> o
[07:49] <armatoste> que fue topo
[07:50] <sureshot> hey i have a sata to usb converter device manager sees it but i can format it .. the dirve is a 250gb is there anything special i have to do to get it to work
[07:50] <Justy-> soundray, i think i should specify that my GNOME session is lost
[07:50] <thegve> Hello
[07:50] <thegve> I have a strange problem ;)
[07:50] <jrib> !es
[07:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:50] <soundray> Justy-: what do you get when you 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install initramfs-tools'? (Paste errors in pastebin again please)
[07:51] <Justy-> soundray, ok
[07:51] <pontusen> heya folks. Im about to install ubuntu, but I have a zyxel g-220 wireless network adapter, not really sure how to get it going. Any help would be greatly appreciated!?
[07:51] <thegve> I am installing a thin client server, and just discovered that the server I am using (HP proliant ML150), doesn't have a sound card. Is it possible to install ESD without, just forwarding it to the ESD daemon on the clients?
[07:51] <Justy-> soundray, could you please wait for me a little bit?
[07:51] <M_A_K> iter : Reading that whitepaper URL you gave me. A bit intimidating.  Don't know what to do with it.
[07:52] <soundray> Justy-: I'm going to dinner soon. I may be back in an hour, try me then.
[07:52] <iter> M_A_K: right it's pretty worthless as actual stuff to do, I linked it as background info
[07:52] <Justy-> soundray, now i cannot start x server even
[07:53] <iter> M_A_K: is there a reason you aren't using java 1.4.2
[07:53] <Justy-> soundray, i have a blue screen and a message : "failed to start x server it is likely that it is not set up correctly. would you like to view the
[07:53] <soundray> Justy-: I know, your problem is serious, but that doesn't mean it has to be difficult to solve.
[07:53] <M_A_K> I understand what it is telling me the problem is.  The software is trying to use an older version of some library
[07:53] <M_A_K> iter : no
[07:53] <Justy-> soundray X server output ot diagnose the problem
[07:53] <sureshot> hey i have a sata to usb converter device manager sees it but i can format it .. the dirve is a 250gb is there anything special i have to do to get it to work
[07:53] <okeefenokee> Hi folks! WHat the heck should I do when my (brand new) Ubuntu installation seems to have some problems. When I try to install new packages (emacs, mp3-support) I get the message(s) "Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 65, <$__ANONIO__> line 989" and "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 22052 package...
[07:53] <okeefenokee> ...`foomatic-db': field name `Suggests*' must be followed by colon".
[07:53] <armatoste> hey que fue
[07:53] <M_A_K> iter : just did a fresh install on my laptop a couple of weeks ago.
[07:53] <armatoste> escribi por aqui
[07:53] <Justy-> soundray, what answer should i give to it?
[07:53] <jrib> armatoste: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:53] <M_A_K> version 1.5 got installed.
[07:53] <soundray> Justy-: let's worry about the initramfs-tools problem first. So, say No in that dialog.
[07:54] <armatoste> ok ok
[07:54] <okeefenokee> I haven't fiddled with any files, except for the upgrade from the CD-installation. I'm most confused!
[07:54] <armatoste> dont speak spanish
[07:54] <spiderworm> hi all, how do i figure out what process is using a module when lsmod doesnt tell me?
[07:54] <soundray> Justy-: then log in on the console and run the reinstall command I gave you earlier.
[07:54] <jrib> armatoste: what do you speak?
[07:55] <armatoste> you tell me that should be move to the spanish chat
[07:55] <Justy-> soundray, but i have to paste it here i cannot establish with my browser on console
[07:55] <spiderworm> ve te al chat espanol
[07:56] <Lunar_Lamp> how do i get rid of the black animation when minimising windows in gnome?
[07:56] <sureshot> hey i have a sata to usb converter device manager sees it but i can format it .. the dirve is a 250gb is there anything special i have to do to get it to work
[07:56] <Justy-> soundray,i tried startx and it told me " error opening /dev/wacom: no such file or directory"
[07:57] <soundray> Justy-: is this a new installation?
[07:57] <Justy-> soundray, no =(
[07:57] <Jowi> sureshot, try gparted
[07:57] <soundray> Justy-: so it worked previously?
[07:57] <XsesA> hd0 is unrecognized device :|
[07:57] <sureshot> jowi tried gparted and qtparted
[07:57] <Justy-> soundray, it gives the same error at my latest pastebin
[07:57] <gandolfthewizard> ok what two lines did i have to uncomment
[07:57] <Ithiel> hello all
[07:57] <Jowi> sureshot, does gparted recognise the driver?
[07:57] <armatoste> hello
[07:57] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: the first two...
[07:57] <gandolfthewizard> i did
[07:58] <Jowi> sureshot, drive, not driver of course
[07:58] <matt_____> anyone know of an 'official' way to identify a distro as ubuntu via a shell script or something similar?
[07:58] <armatoste> I like to move it move it
[07:58] <sureshot> jowi it sees the drive
[07:58] <Justy-> soundray, i tried to update my kernel and that happened, i used ubuntu 1 month before that with no problem
[07:58] <Jowi> sureshot, and you can partition it?
[07:58] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: ok now save and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[07:58] <XsesA> any help?
[07:58] <sureshot> jowi it tries i think
[07:58] <XsesA> no boot screen since i chose windows
[07:58] <sureshot> or it says it dows
[07:58] <sjbrown> matt_o|work, is there something like /etc/ubuntu_version?
[07:58] <armatoste> problem with the grub
[07:58] <matt_o|work> sjbrown that's what I'm asking ...
[07:58] <armatoste> partition not assigned correctly in the grub MBR
[07:59] <Jowi> sureshot, do you first select the drive, then add a partition (as ext3 or whatever) and then "apply" the changes?
[07:59] <Ithiel> gah.
[07:59] <jrib> matt_o|work: lsb_release -a    would work, it reads /etc/lsb-release
[07:59] <shrewder> do sb know  how to configure adsl with sagem Fast 800. Forum dose not help.
[08:00] <XsesA> well
[08:00] <sureshot> howi yes right now i have a problems i dont think it is pluged in right at this second it does not see it give a few thanks i will be back shortly ok
[08:00] <XsesA> help anyone?
[08:00] <soundray> XsesA: be patient.
[08:00] <buu> shrewder: ppoe?
[08:00] <XsesA> what's the hd number of C?
[08:00] <soundray> XsesA: hd0, like I said earlier.
[08:00] <armatoste> xsesa... reinstall the grub
[08:00] <dude> how do i adjust my screen size?
[08:00] <XsesA> it's not recognized device
[08:00] <gandolfthewizard> ty so much it is installing now
[08:00] <shrewder> probebly yes , i'm not sure
[08:01] <IcemanV9> dude: system > pref > screen resolution
[08:01] <shrewder> ifconfig dont show me interface
[08:01] <soundray> Justy-: if you've only lost this one file for some reason (/usr/sbin/mkinitramfs), it might be sufficient to put this back.
[08:01] <XsesA> how i know what is the hd number of each hd??
[08:02] <armatoste> quit the video card and put again and power on the pc
[08:02] <Justy-> soundray, i dont think so
[08:02] <Flannel> XsesA: primary master is 0, prim. slave is 1, sec mast is 2 sec slave is 3
[08:02] <soundray> Justy-: why?
[08:02] <Justy-> soundray, but i should give it a try?
[08:02] <Flannel> XsesA: that's in grub, with linux it's hda hdb hdc hdd, respectively
[08:02] <sureshot> jowi it mounts the silly thing and will not format it.. as i try to creat the filesystem it is unmounted when i try
[08:02] <Justy-> soundray, i didnt do such, but it maybe got lost
[08:02] <XsesA> my C is sda1
[08:03] <dude> iceman: can i add more screen size?
[08:03] <XsesA> so what is it in grub?
[08:03] <armatoste> dude: yes
[08:03] <Justy-> soundray, what is initramfs-tools
[08:03] <Flannel> XsesA: 0,0
[08:03] <Jowi> sureshot, yeah, you can't make any changes to a mounted drive
[08:03] <soundray> Justy-: yes. It only has 5 important lines. They are "BOOT=local ; BUSYBOX=y ; DEVICE=eth0 ; MODULES=most ; NFSROOT=auto"
[08:04] <sureshot> jowi it is unmounted i try as it starts to format it it mounts it .. is there a command line param that i can add to keep it from doint that
[08:04] <matt_o|work> jrib : thanks that looks like what I'm looking for
[08:04] <armatoste> the call of the zhulu
[08:04] <soundray> Justy-: it is the package that causes your current apt-failure. If you fix this, your update will finish and your system will work again (I hope).
[08:05] <armatoste> open terminal and write: sudo xserver repair
[08:05] <Justy-> soundray, would you like me to run ubuntu on LiveCD ?
[08:05] <pontusen> where can one read about setting up wireless network?
[08:05] <spiderworm> how do i figure out what process is using a module when lsmod doesnt tell me?
[08:05] <jrib> ubotu: tell pontusen about wireless
[08:06] <shrewder> buu : i'm from poland, and i have neostrada so i find on web script (ubuNeo) to auto instal driver and configure adsl (neostrada)
[08:06] <dsewnr_> Does somebody know why my terminal encoding is ANSI_X3.4-1968 can't remove or change default encoding ?
[08:06] <soundray> Justy-: see if you can create /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf with the above five lines. How you do it is your choice.
[08:06] <afief> How do i disable the login password?
[08:06] <soundray> Justy-: I have to go now, back at ca. 1900 GMT
[08:06] <Jowi> sureshot, I'm not logged into my system atm so I can not guide you. I've tried to install Ubuntu on this intel mac-mini all day so now I'm in OsX (yuck)
[08:06] <Justy-> soundray
[08:06] <iter> M_A_K: you can try setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1
[08:06] <Justy-> soundray how much hours after ?
[08:07] <Jowi> brb
[08:07] <iter> M_A_K: not sure why that would help but google seems to recommend it
[08:07] <iter> M_A_K: export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1
[08:07] <armatoste> hi key
[08:07] <sureshot> jowi good luck my friend i will man the thing i have to walk the tread mill now take a shower and get my kids from school chat with you later ] 
[08:08] <armatoste> ok
[08:08] <afief> How do i disable the gdm login and make it automatically login into a specific user account>
[08:08] <armatoste> gdm kill
[08:08] <armatoste> in terminal
[08:08] <wasabi> Is there anyway to install Ubuntu onto evms?
[08:08] <pontusen> it seems quite impossible to install wlan without having internet first? considering you need to install wireless-tools? or am I wrong?
[08:09] <armatoste> use a orinoco wireless cards
[08:09] <afief> armatoste: i meant something permanent
[08:09] <jrib> pontusen: I think that stuff is on the cd, emphasis on "think"
[08:10] <hacx> hello :)
[08:10] <armatoste> hello
[08:10] <armatoste> left the show!
[08:10] <hacx> i want to ask :) how to identify myself to access the #python channel? :)
[08:10] <pontusen> jrib, okey. Will I need to change anything in the synaptic to install from cd, or will it be installed? If you may guess? :)
[08:11] <jrib> pontusen: inserting the cd should prompt you to add the cd as a repo, if it isn't already.  If it doesn't, just use edit > add cd rom repository....  in synaptic
[08:11] <Moataz> hi
[08:11] <pontusen> okey, seems easy enough =) thanks
[08:12] <hacx> :-)
[08:12] <xBooGerx> has anyone installed mythtv with a pvr 150??
[08:12] <Moataz> I want to overwrite menu.lst but i get a permission denied message, how can i work around this issue?
[08:12] <Shadow_mil> Whats the apt-get line to install compilers and all, something like:            sudo apt-get install linux-base
[08:12] <Shadow_mil> or something?
[08:12] <C-O-L-T> My Microphone does not works under Ubuntu, I have a Dell Inspiron 1300 laptop with intel sound chipset
[08:12] <C-O-L-T> I can not use Skype
[08:13] <raar> segfault_: Thanks again, it's all working now! :)
[08:13] <JFreakCapo> hello
[08:13] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: do this:   cat /dev/dsp > ~/mysound.pcm
[08:13] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T:      say something
[08:13] <Shadow_mil> ctrl + c
[08:14] <JFreakCapo> can somebody tell how install a JDBC please ?
[08:14] <Shadow_mil> then: cat ~/mysound.pcm > /dev/dsp
[08:15] <Moataz> somebody knows how to modify the /boot/grub/ files?
[08:15] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[08:15] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: sudo killall esd
[08:15] <Shadow_mil> then try again
[08:16] <MrRothstein> JFreakCapo: you mean a driver?
[08:16] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[08:16] <ProN00b> Shadow_mil, apt-get install build-essential
[08:16] <JFreakCapo> MrRothstein, yes a database driver
[08:16] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: lsof | grep /dev/dsp        paste the output
[08:16] <M_A_K> iter : sorry, had to step out for aminute
[08:16] <Shadow_mil> ProN00b: thanks
[08:16] <JFreakCapo> MrRothstein, firebird (jaybird)
[08:16] <MrRothstein> what database?
[08:17] <eifzone> why do i get this message when i install ubuntu's newest beta: /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off
[08:17] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: grep: paste: No such file or directory
[08:17] <C-O-L-T> grep: the: No such file or directory
[08:17] <C-O-L-T> grep: output: No such file or directory
[08:17] <JFreakCapo> MrRothstein, i haven't any idea that what have i to do...
[08:17] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: no paste the output to the channel
[08:17] <M_A_K> iter : did the export thing and still same problem
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> type:  lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[08:18] <M_A_K> Do you think I should revert back to 1.4.? java?
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> And then paste what lsof | grep /dev/dsp gives you to the channel
[08:18] <MrRothstein> not familiar with firebird
[08:18] <MrRothstein> its usually just a jar that you need to include on the classpath
[08:18] <JFreakCapo> MrRothstein, but any other JDBC ??
[08:19] <JFreakCapo> MrRothstein, just for know some of the way...
[08:19] <MrRothstein> JDBC is a spec, it needs to be implemented by someone, usually the database provider
[08:19] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: Something begins but can not hear anythung
[08:20] <atlef> any poker sites which support linux, as in downloading a client to play online?
[08:20] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: are you using xchat?
[08:20] <javaJake> Shadow_mil: I am using Opera, and I am just fine. :)
[08:20] <JFreakCapo> MrRothstein, but for example if i download a mysql driver how install it?? or what have i do with it..
[08:20] <javaJake> Shadow_mil: I use XChat most of the time, but it is a matter of preference.
[08:20] <fenrrir> hi, how to generate wsdl file from python class ?
[08:21] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: type this in IRC:       /exec -o lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[08:21] <fenrrir> sorry
[08:21] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: nope Opera
[08:21] <javaJake> Shadow_mil: Oh, I see, I'm sorry.
[08:21] <BjoeHrn> Hey dudes :)
[08:21] <MrRothstein> JFreakCapo, are you writing a java application?
[08:21] <C-O-L-T>  /exec -o lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[08:21] <JFreakCapo> no i want to use a DbManager application (DbVisualizer)
[08:22] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: this is not xchat probably because of that does not works that command what you gave to me. I use Opera
[08:22] <javaJake> Shadow_mil: That command does not work in Opera
[08:22] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: :(
[08:22] <JFreakCapo> MrRothstein, http://www.minq.se/products/dbvis/
[08:22] <javaJake> BjoeHrn: Hey
[08:22] <Shadow_mil> ok C-O-L-T want me to help you via ssh?
[08:22] <javaJake> C-O-L-T: apt-get install xchat2
[08:22] <javaJake> And run that
[08:23] <javaJake> Runs better then Opera (trust me).
[08:23] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: I think I have a driver problem, cause my mic works under ubuntu. I am using the latest version of skype for linux.
[08:23] <javaJake> And is better for this situation
[08:23] <BjoeHrn> Sorry for my bad english ;). Is there a source for ubuntu dapper to install the firefox 2.0b?
[08:23] <JFreakCapo> MrRothstein, is a java app to manage a lot of database, connected with JDBC (aparently)
[08:23] <gandolfthewizard> ty for all of yur help i really apreciate
[08:23] <blind> I'm trying to use avidemux to edit a small avi file, but every frame shows up green?
[08:24] <javaJake> BjoeHrn: Don't feel bad about the bad english - if you are in a different language, there should be an Ubuntu channel for your language.
[08:24] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: skype does not work?
[08:24] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: As I said I use a laptop Dell Inspiron 1300 with some intel chipset, and drivers are rare for intel chipsets as far as I know
[08:24] <javaJake> BjoeHrn: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:24] <BjoeHrn> javaJake, yes but there no one have time for my little question ;)
[08:24] <MrRothstein> http://www.minq.se/products/dbvis/doc/main/doc/ug/getConnected/getConnected.html#mozTocId450354
[08:24] <lizardking> Hello everybody!
[08:24] <javaJake> BjoeHrn: Scroll down, and make a search
[08:24] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: nor skype neither my microphone
[08:24] <BjoeHrn> javaJake, thank you
[08:25] <lizardking> I have a problem with gnom. Some one can help me?
[08:25] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: you just said your mic works under ubuntu?
[08:25] <lritter> i have some trouble with my upgrade to edgy
[08:25] <lritter> it seems i cant install python2.4-minimal
[08:25] <javaJake> BjoeHrn: Your welcome. If Ubuntu doesn't have it, Debian might (compatibility NOT guaranteed): packages.debian.com
[08:25] <blind> What is the issue, lizardking
[08:25] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: so skype works except when I need to call somebody because then I can hear the person but they can not hear me, but under windows there is no problem
[08:25] <lizardking> ok blind
[08:25] <lizardking> I installed some libs for install anjuta 2.0 beta
[08:25] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: yeah I am trying to debug your mic
[08:26] <birdfish> Is there a precompiled package for screen?  And if so, what is it called?
[08:26] <javaJake> lritter: I know it is probably annoying to your for me to say this, but it is better to burn a CD and install a-fresh then use apt-get upgrade. MUCH better.
[08:26] <lizardking> this libs are libgbf and libgd
[08:26] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: ok try this:    type   alsamixer
[08:26] <JFreakCapo> MrRothstein, thks
[08:26] <lritter> javaJake: impossible, this is a year old working image
[08:26] <lizardking> and anjuta goes fine
[08:26] <javaJake> lritter: Of Edgy???
[08:26] <lritter> javaJake: of dapper
[08:26] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: make sure mic and capture is turned all the way up
[08:26] <lritter> javaJake: i'm not going through the pain of redoing it all again
[08:26] <javaJake> lritter: how did you get to edgy?
[08:26] <lritter> javaJake: there is a shitload of packages installed
[08:26] <lizardking> then I return to the 1.2.4 anjuta and downgrade the libg* to dapper default
[08:27] <lritter> javaJake: so
[08:27] <lritter> javaJake: the hard way
[08:27] <lritter> javaJake: i changed my sources.list
[08:27] <blind> I'm trying to use avidemux to edit a small avi file, but every frame shows up green?
[08:27] <whyso> anyone have a screwdriver i can borrow?
[08:27] <lizardking> now my problem is that I have no more association with extension of a file, his icons and the relative lanch program
[08:27] <lizardking> for example
[08:27] <javaJake> lritter: as mentioned, using the repositories to upgrade is not recommended, but if you really want to do this, then send me the output of apt-get when you attempt to install python
[08:28] <YoG> hi, is there a way to make the work space act as one big workspace instead of 4 seperate ones?
[08:28] <lritter> javaJake: sure
[08:28] <blind> lizardking: right click and go to properties, then the "Open with" tab
[08:28] <blind> YoG: huh?
[08:28] <Hausberg> hey can someone give some quick tips about building packages and making .deb?
[08:28] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: ?
[08:28] <lizardking> my files *.deb are with a generic text icon if I click on say to me that I cannot open the files
[08:28] <lizardking> and gdebi not staart
[08:28] <blind> lizardking: right click and go to properties, then the "Open with" tab
[08:28] <M_A_K> iter ?
[08:28] <lizardking> ok I do that
[08:28] <javaJake> Hausberg: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:28] <lritter> javaJake: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5MtBQA71.html
[08:28] <lizardking> but in some case does not work
[08:29] <Hausberg> I have a source file and I'd like to compile it and make a .deb
[08:29] <blind> You have to do it for each file type.
[08:29] <lizardking> it remins the generic text icon
[08:29] <lizardking> no the package one
[08:29] <YoG> blind: I'm running ubuntu on a tv, so the resolution is low, and large application extend out of the screen...
[08:29] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: open a terminal, type alsamixer    should bring up a menu, and they make sure both mic and capture is turned up
[08:29] <javaJake> lritter: that locales error can be fixed by (re)installing/upgrading your locales package
[08:29] <lritter> javaJake: read further.
[08:29] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: sorry I had a connection brakedown I am doing it right now
[08:29] <blind> YoG: my workspaces work like that... yours don't?
[08:30] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: np
[08:30] <YoG> blind: err.... nop
[08:30] <msomers> hi, I'm trying to install mythtv following a set of instructions, and they tell me to "Log out from your current X session, and log back in as the mythtv user. At this point, do not open a "sudo -i" shell; we want the following command to be run using the mythtv user: mythtv-setup".......How do I run the command from the user mythtv? do I just run "mythtv-setup" from the terminal or what?
[08:30] <javaJake> lritter: I know... I did....
[08:30] <blind> YoG: oh nevermind. it does with xgl, but not straight gnome..
[08:30] <birdfish> Anyone know if there is a package for screen?
[08:30] <javaJake> lritter: I am googling "raise ValueError, 'empty set of versions'"
[08:30] <lizardking> however I insert gdebi and now not start If I click 2 times
[08:30] <lritter> javaJake: you think that its inability to find the python version stems from a wrong locale?
[08:30] <blind> birdfish: apt-get install screen
[08:30] <lritter> javaJake: i searched launchpad
[08:30] <YoG> blind: ah... so do you know how can i do that on gnome?
[08:30] <Hausberg> normally I'd just unpack it - go to the directory then ./configure make and make install - I figured it would be cooler to build a .deb and install it this way so I can remove it easier lateron
[08:31] <blind> YoG: I'm not sure.
[08:31] <javaJake> msomers: I am assuming there is really a user called "mythtv" user.
[08:31] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: I made everything still does not works
[08:31] <YoG> blind: or at least what to look for?
[08:31] <javaJake> msomers: If so, you should be able to type in the username "mythtv" and the password for that user at the login screen
[08:31] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: in the menu press tab twice
[08:31] <lizardking> seems like a lost my files extensions association with icons and launch program
[08:31] <msomers> so I need to logout of my current user and login as mythtv?
[08:31] <lritter> javaJake: ok, i found something.
[08:31] <lritter> javaJake: seems google searches launchpad better than launchpad istelf
[08:31] <blind> YoG: I'm not sure :\
[08:31] <wick2o> anyone have experience with ubuntu and LSI SAS1068 drivers?
[08:32] <YoG> blind: what is xgl?
[08:32] <msomers> and I assume, the instructions told me, that the installer creates the mythtv user
[08:32] <lizardking> blind: do U understand?
[08:32] <javaJake> lritter: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/57121
[08:32] <wick2o> im having a hard time doing the server install since these drivers are not included
[08:32] <javaJake> lritter: apparently this bug is already reported
[08:32] <lritter> javaJake: yeah exactly that one
[08:32] <blind> !xgl > YoG
[08:32] <lritter> javaJake: and there is a hack to fix it
[08:32] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: nothing happened still does not works
[08:32] <wick2o> ive tried to boot with the desktop version (live cd) and somehow install the drivers from there
[08:32] <lritter> javaJake: launchpad didnt find anything, now google does - great
[08:32] <lritter> javaJake: anyway thanks for your help +1 karma point for you :P
[08:32] <javaJake> lritter: To debug an error, always find the original error that started the whole thing, and google it. Works every (well, almost every) time
[08:33] <lritter> javaJake: i was hoping launchpad would help better but now i learn it doesnt
[08:33] <javaJake> lritter: no problem. The whole reason I am here is to help. :)
[08:33] <chris_> Hey all, can anyone explain to me how to change the splash screen?
[08:33] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: type           cat /dev/dsp         and tell me if you see dots or something else when you talk
[08:33] <lritter> javaJake: see i thought i know everything ;)
[08:33] <msomers> JavaJake, did you manage to see my response?
[08:33] <javaJake> lritter: we ALL learn something new every day
[08:33] <YoG> blind: nice... but i don't think it would run on that p3-800
[08:33] <Hausberg> javaJake: I am trying to make a .deb instead of normal ./configure make and make install
[08:33] <lritter> javaJake: so say we all!
[08:33] <blind> YoG: me neither :P
[08:33] <javaJake> msomers: I am sorry, I did not. Yes, that is what I think you need to do
[08:34] <msomers> Okay, thank you!
[08:34] <YoG> does anyone know how do i change the workspace behaviour?
[08:34] <javaJake> Hausberg: Ah, yes. apt-get install check-install. Then run "check-install" instead of make install. That'll do the trick
[08:34] <THX-1138> YoG - How so?
[08:34] <javaJake> THX-1138: I was going to say that
[08:34] <javaJake> :P
[08:35] <HoboJoe> Hey all, can anyone explain to me how to change the splash screen I am using Edgy, please let me know if I need to change channel?
[08:35] <THX-1138> "Information is power" :P
[08:35] <YoG> THX-1138: I want applications that extend beyond the end of the screen to appear in the neighboring workspace...
[08:35] <YoG> THX-1138: any idea?
[08:35] <javaJake> THX-1138: Pretty much
[08:35] <blind> I'm trying to use avidemux to edit a small avi file, but every frame shows up green.
[08:35] <javaJake> YoG, THX-1138: Ooo.... I'd like to do that too!!!
[08:36] <javaJake> YoG: I know that Enlightenment window manager does this
[08:36] <blind> bleh
[08:36] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: I see some dots and few sings
[08:36] <YoG> JavaJake: also glx...
[08:36] <THX-1138> YoG - Working on that myself - read conflicting ideas on it. new to this i am not too sure. - I have twinview enabled and i can only guess xinerama is  the answer
[08:36] <javaJake> blind: Is the AVI in proprietary codecs?
[08:36] <javaJake> YoG: Oh, really? Didn't know...
[08:36] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: ok what type of card do you have?
[08:36] <blind> javaJake: I don't know. I know I can play it.
[08:37] <Hausberg> javaJake: apt-get does not find check-install package
[08:37] <Justy-> soundray, are you there ?
[08:37] <YoG> JavaJake: thats what blind sais anyway...
[08:37] <javaJake> blind: Sometimes the codecs will actually prevent that sort of thing. Make sure the editor you are using supports the AVI format you are trying to edit.
[08:37] <HoboJoe> Hey all, can anyone explain to me how to change the splash screen I am using Edgy, please let me know if I need to change channel?
[08:37] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: just a sec
[08:37] <YoG> THX-1138: twinview? is that an application?
[08:37] <THX-1138> nvidia-xconfig makes it dead simple. - following the how tos in forums here was hard and gave me a headache. using  . in place of : kept me stymied
[08:37] <keiaah> Hi.
[08:37] <keiaah> I started with linux (Ubuntu) about 2 years ago.
[08:37] <keiaah> After that Ive been playing around with some other distros, latest was Arch Linux.
[08:37] <keiaah> Now I decided to go back to Ubuntu, cause its the distro I prefer.
[08:37] <keiaah> To my problem; I cant connect to the internet without my router.
[08:37] <keiaah> I am using:
[08:38] <keiaah> Modem = D-Link DSL-300T
[08:38] <javaJake> HoboJoe: Try Ubuntu Wiki's. They probably hold the secret... I have this feeling... ;)
[08:38] <keiaah> Router = D-Link DI-604
[08:38] <keiaah> If I unplug the router the internet wont work.
[08:38] <keiaah> I have also tried two Zyxel modems I got from my ISP, still no internet.
[08:38] <keiaah> Everything worked when I played around with SuSE / Debian / Arch.
[08:38] <keiaah> I am using iptables so dont need/want the router.
[08:38] <javaJake> YoG: It's an Xorg configuration
[08:38] <keiaah> Would be very happy if someone knew how to get around this problem, cause its starting to get really annoying.
[08:38] <keiaah> Sometimes it works without the router, if I reboot the computer 1 million times.
[08:38] <javaJake> Hausberg: one moment...
[08:38] <blind> javaJake: how do i know what kind of avi format it is? O_o
[08:38] <THX-1138> please don't tell me you are using ati
[08:38] <YoG> THX-1138, JavaJake: just to be sure, we are talking on a single monitor, right?
[08:38] <THX-1138> YoG - erm - No, glad you asked.
[08:38] <javaJake> blind: I know that mplayer will tell you when you play it
[08:39] <javaJake> YoG: Yes
[08:39] <jmitchj> when i do "iwconfig"...I get Access Point: Invalid...anyone help me as to why?
[08:39] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: some kind of intel card or sigmatel, I am not sure at all
[08:39] <blind> javaJake: lol i was having some troubles with mplayer. likes to freeze my system. and i don
[08:39] <blind> 't wanna reboot :[
[08:39] <HoboJoe> javajake: Will have a look, I am sure I checked it earlier and it didnt go all that into doing it without Beryl and the other apps like it
[08:39] <YoG> THX-1138: well, I have only one tv connected to that computer... with low resolution
[08:39] <YoG> THX-1138: and applications tend to extend out of the screen, which is really annoying...
[08:40] <THX-1138> YoG - I am easily confused. - you want to enable the monitor AND a TV output?
[08:40] <javaJake> blind: Really? WOw... strange... mplayer is super powerful, and can do all sorts of things besides play music - it can play movies IN THE TERMINAL! O_o
[08:40] <THX-1138> YoG - ah i see.
[08:40] <YoG> THX-1138: no, I have only the tv connected
[08:40] <blind> javaJake: how is that possible? O_O
[08:40] <javaJake> Hausberg: http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/downl
[08:40] <Hausberg> javaJake: I found it the package is called checkinstall :)
[08:40] <tahorg> ls
[08:40] <javaJake> Oh, OK
[08:40] <tahorg> oops
[08:41] <javaJake> ROFL!
[08:41] <YoG> THX-1138: so any ideas
[08:41] <captine> javaJake: speaking about playing movies in terminal, is it possible to run seperate terminals on multiple monitors (not using X)?
[08:41] <Justy-ubuntu> soundray: where are you
[08:41] <javaJake> blind: It uses a driver called "caca", which was made for just that
[08:41] <javaJake> captine: Yes
[08:41] <javaJake> captine: No
[08:41] <blind> lmfao
[08:41] <javaJake> captine: I don't know
[08:41] <javaJake> :P
[08:41] <jmitchj> Having trouble with wireless....when i do "iwconfig"...I get Access Point: Invalid...anyone help me as to why?
[08:41] <THX-1138> YoG - No, idead at all why the screen extends beyond the edge. - could it be the monior itself. - change the settings from it's front panel?
[08:41] <captine> javaJake: lol.  had me excited for a second.  shot :)
[08:41] <javaJake> captine: I kept re-reading your question differently... sorry... my real answer is I don't know
[08:42] <YoG> THX-1138: no you don't understand...
[08:42] <captine> javaJake: np
[08:42] <blind> I need to edit this small avi clip, and I need to do it asap. What can I use to do this?
[08:42] <^Ocean^> any one have issues with vmware on edgy ?
[08:42] <M|Tracy> Has anyone had vim issues in edgy.... with arrow keys after insert command?
[08:42] <YoG> THX-1138: here is an example:
[08:42] <THX-1138> YoG - yep. -should'a known it wasn't that simple. - lol
[08:42] <javaJake> jmitchj: Either the access point you are trying to reach doesn't exist, or you haven't configured it yet.
[08:42] <marshall> whats up guys
[08:43] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: ?
[08:43] <YoG> THX-1138: I open a setting windows, the sound setting for example...
[08:43] <marshall> does anybody here use SIP and Ekiga?
[08:43] <jmitchj> javaJake: How do i configure it?
[08:43] <YoG> THX-1138: this one is a long one so it extends both out of the top of the screen and the bottom
[08:43] <marshall> i want to use Ekiga with my friend but hes on windows, does anybody know a good client for him?
[08:43] <jmitchj> javaJake: It's valid..cause it connects in Windows
[08:43] <Justy-ubuntu> Justy-
[08:43] <Shadow_mil> C-O-L-T: find out what type it is and see if their are any Linux drivers
[08:44] <YoG> THX-1138: so i cant press the X to close it on top and cant press the close button on bottom... :(
[08:44] <YoG> THX-1138: this is really annoying
[08:44] <javaJake> jmitchj: iwconfig <interface> essid <acess point name>
[08:44] <THX-1138> YoG - Beginning to get the "picture" here.
[08:44] <C-O-L-T> Shadow_mil: ok
[08:44] <YoG> THX-1138: and...?
[08:44] <javaJake> blind: this movie player worked for me: Jahshaka
[08:44] <lwizardl> hi
[08:44] <THX-1138> YoG - the desktop menu/taskbars to launcha apps is the right size no?
[08:45] <javaJake> blind: Repository for that is: deb http://repo.jahshaka.org/ubuntu/dapper binary-i386/
[08:45] <YoG> THX-1138: I don't understand the question
[08:45] <jmitchj> javaJake: no go
[08:45] <lwizardl> is the nVIDIA FX5500 video card compatible in ubuntu ?
[08:45] <javaJake> jmitchj: It could also be that your card isn't working.
[08:45] <javaJake> jmitchj: What card are you using
[08:46] <javaJake> jmitchj: And are you using ndiswrapper?
[08:46] <lwizardl> looking to build a new pc and making sure I'm going with something compatible
[08:46] <javaJake> blind: Let me know if you like that player
[08:46] <THX-1138> YoG - using  GNOME there is a desktop open icon and on the right side on the bottom menu / taskbar is a recycle bin?
[08:46] <blind> javaJake: for editing?
[08:46] <jmitchj> javaJake: it works in Windows...Broadcom 4318...and yes using ndiswrapper....but i've tried so many things trying to get this to work..it's hard to tell where my system is at now
[08:47] <blind> javaJake: or for telling me the format?
[08:47] <THX-1138> YoG - A picture would be worth a thousand words.
[08:47] <javaJake> Everyone, BRB
[08:47] <YoG> THX-1138: used to be, I removed it...
[08:47] <javaJake> blind: yes
[08:47] <YoG> THX-1138: ah... yes, Ill make one...
[08:47] <javaJake> blind editing
[08:47] <Stormx2> Hey everyone, whats new?
[08:48] <THX-1138> YoG - Sorry, i still think it is the monitor refresh rate. you said all windows were opening beyond the screen edged
[08:48] <profoX`> is there any easy audio recording program that just works with alsa?
[08:48] <YoG> THX-1138: not all, just the big ones that can't be resized (sound configuration for example)...
[08:49] <YoG> THX-1138: I'm still working on that screenshot... just a sec...
[08:49] <javaJake> jmitchj: I have this same exact chipset!!!
[08:50] <chabayo> Ubuntu 6.06.1
[08:50] <chabayo> i've problems getting sound ouptu in VLC to work
[08:51] <YoG> THX-1138: how do i send it to you?
[08:51] <THX-1138> !paste
[08:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:51] <jmitchj> javaJake: I should probably start from scratch
[08:51] <YoG> THX-1138: !paste?
[08:51] <javaJake> jmitchj: No... not really... ndiswrapper is not needed, though
[08:52] <^Ocean^> is there an easy way to configure grub?  I have 3 hard drives and 2 linux distros installed  ubuntu edgy and debian.   Now grub takes my ubuntu kernel, and by defual wants to boot my debian drive,  unless i interupt it, and modify the boot line to =/dev/hda1  by defualt it seems to be =UUID-xxx-xxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx-xxxx
[08:52] <pike_> profoX`: i just use a little command line app called sound recorder
[08:52] <THX-1138> Eek! - No pics. arrgh!
[08:52] <Jowi> ^Ocean^, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:52] <javaJake> jmitchj: One last idea before we remove ndiswrapper: send me the output of "/etc/modules"
[08:52] <jmitchj> javaJake: so unintall it?
[08:53] <jmitchj> javaJake: send it to you how?
[08:53] <javaJake> !paste
[08:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:53] <javaJake> LOL :P
[08:53] <javaJake> Thank goodness for bots. :P
[08:54] <^Ocean^> Jowi, so i basicaly have to manualy edit all 20 kernel images i have
[08:54] <Jowi> !grub
[08:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:54] <chabayo> noone can help out that chicken??
[08:54] <YoG> THX-1138: but thats only for text....
[08:54] <jmitchj> javaJake: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26654/
[08:54] <THX-1138> YoG - if it isn't the refresh rate i am miffed. - if you still think it is GNOME - try this. (crosses fingers cuz' i am lost) gconf-editor. and the app name see if there is a setting to control default window behaviour.
[08:54] <chabayo> VLC plays no sound
[08:55] <Jowi> ^Ocean^, guess so. I put my kernels _under_ the automagic lines, that way they won't be modified whenever I test a new one.
[08:56] <^Ocean^> god dam, can i just switch edgy to lilo ? grub annoys me too no end
[08:56] <Jowi> ^Ocean^, "update-grub" should detect your kernels that you have on the boot disk but not the ones in other partitions
[08:56] <YoG> THX-1138: so you don't think I can change the behvior of the work space so applications will extend over more than one workspace?
[08:56] <Jowi> ^Ocean^, yes, you can switch to lilo
[08:56] <Lane> Help please,What port does apt-get use?
[08:56] <^Ocean^> Jowi, I dont even care about the other disk...  i only use it for back ups now.  just grub inists on booting it by default
[08:56] <Jowi> Lane: http (port 80)
[08:57] <Jowi> Lane: or ftp (port 20+21)
[08:57] <^Ocean^> i even took my hard drives outa my computer and switched the order of them so my ubuntu drive was hda1
[08:57] <J_P> When Edgy will be released ?
[08:57] <THX-1138> YoG - How would you see more than one work space at a timme without something like picture in a picture? (xnest)
[08:57] <Lane> Jowi, wow that's simple..thanks.
[08:57] <^Ocean^> but grub had to be smart and detect that change and Screw with me even more lol
[08:57] <YoG> THX-1138: sob... no...
[08:58] <YoG> THX-1138: can i dcc send you the pictue?
[09:00] <THX-1138> YoG - I understand you to mean tht a[pps extend over the screen edge. then you say you want to see apps on other workspaces. - Do you want to shrink window so all of an app can be seen?
[09:00] <Riot777> what mean ubuntu icon by the package name in synaptic ?
[09:00] <javaJake> Lane: Basically the same ports your browser would use if you downloaded them yourself
[09:00] <Jowi> ^Ocean^, change the boot order in your BIOS instead of physically swapping them :)
[09:00] <Jowi> ^Ocean^, erhm, not "boot" order. Disk order
[09:00] <Jowi> silly me
[09:00] <Riot777> that they are officiall ?
[09:00] <misieq> !mc
[09:00] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[09:00] <shwag> 2.6.17 doesn't appear to have support for either my broadcom ethernet or my intel prowireless
[09:00] <javaJake> jmitchj: Try running "sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx"
[09:00] <YoG> THX-1138: no I just want that when I move to the workspace above I'll see the top of the app (that was cut out at the bottom workspace)
[09:01] <jmitchj> javaJake: returns nothing
[09:01] <shwag> jmitchj: javaJake: what are you guys working on? is this regarding a BCM4401-B0 ?
[09:02] <javaJake> shwag: Uh... some bcm43xx device, for sure.
[09:02] <THX-1138> YoG - This might ad more confusion. sry for that. - could a scrolling desktop be what you want. one HUGE space that follows the mouse?
[09:02] <javaJake> jmitchj: what does "lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation" say?
[09:02] <javaJake> shwag: that above command will tell you.
[09:02] <shwag> im back to dapper, because edgy ( or 2.6.17 rather) didnt load any network devices for me.
[09:02] <YoG> THX-1138: Not exactly, but this will be a good startingl
[09:03] <jmitchj> javaJake: 0000:03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[09:03] <shwag> javaJake: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[09:03] <javaJake> shwag: jmitchj: try this HOWTO: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[09:03] <shwag> javaJake: works in dapper...not edgy.
[09:03] <javaJake> shwag: With bcm43xx native drivers, or ndiswrapper?
[09:03] <peeps> Riot777: in synaptic, click the Help menu, then "Icon Legend" for explanation of each icon
[09:03] <soundray> Justy-: I'm back
[09:03] <javaJake> shwag: ndiswrapper has never seemed to work in Edgy for me
[09:03] <Riot777> peeps: thanks
[09:04] <THX-1138> YoG - gconf-editor is what you use - google  linux/debianubuntu scrolling desktop
[09:04] <shwag> javaJake: well..thats broadcom wireless cards.  I have a broadcom ethernet, and an intel wireless.
[09:04] <shwag> javaJake: dell laptop
[09:04] <javaJake> shwag: Ah, I se
[09:04] <jmitchj> javaJake: I'm in Dapper though
[09:04] <THX-1138> debian/ubuntu
[09:04] <shwag> Dapper loaded fine for me.  edgy is the problem.
[09:04] <YoG> THX-1138: thx
[09:04] <javaJake> shwag: What I'd recommend is Gooling the model name around forums
[09:05] <tokyoahead> hi guys... I heard 6.10 is capable to be installed on a usb stick and run from there... is the beta already doing that or do I have to wait for final?
[09:06] <lwizardl> anyone know if any of these nvidia cards are compatible with ubuntu fx5500, 6800, 7600, or 7800?
[09:06] <javaJake> jmitchj: try this HOWTO: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[09:06] <Guestking> got a 6800 ultar go  and works perfect
[09:06] <Guestking> ultra
[09:07] <soundray> lwizardl: any of these should work with nvidia's own driver.
[09:07] <Guestking> does someone know something from vi scripting
[09:07] <jmitchj> javaJake: Interestingly it says that this will probably NOT work for my card
[09:07] <lwizardl> Guestking: which manufacturer and head type? single/dual/triple ?
[09:07] <javaJake> jmitchj: the "Network Manager' part is completely optional.
[09:07] <javaJake> jmitchj: Really...?
[09:07] <jmitchj> javaJake: I have the network manager running
[09:08] <javaJake> jmitchj: Ah, yes, I see that
[09:08] <jmitchj> javaJake: It used to show a wireless connection....but it doesn;t show one now
[09:08] <atlef> what is the point of the alternate iso?
[09:08] <jmitchj> javaJake: but never was able to connect
[09:09] <zool2005> does anyone here use a Western Digital "My Book" external HDD?
[09:09] <Riot777> how can users add/vote packages to official ubuntu apt repositories ?
[09:09] <dv5000> hello, is there a way to shutdown my notebook monitor whitout closing the lid? whitout using power-management so i can shutdown anytime i want to
[09:09] <THX-1138> Can i tar backup my install to FAT32. - will the permissions, symlinks be preserved?
[09:09] <Justy-> soundray, welcome back
[09:10] <Justy-> soundray, i have booted from Live CD
[09:10] <w30> see
[09:10] <Justy-> soundray, and saw that everthing was gone to the worst
[09:10] <soundray> atlef: it works with machines with unsupported graphics, or no graphics.
[09:10] <Justy-> soundray, so i just formatted it and going to reinstall
[09:10] <soundray> Justy-: how do you mean?
[09:10] <THX-1138> nvm - I'll follow the standard script.
[09:10] <segfault_> THX-1138, man tar for options to handle those
[09:10] <atlef> ok
[09:10] <misieq> i'm in the process of deploying linux based 'server' into windows network. i'd like it to serve a common contact windows (meaning ms outlook) contact book. can i use ldap to do that or should i use sth else?
[09:10] <javaJake> jmitchj: hmmm.... interesting...
[09:10] <Justy-> soundray, thanks anyways
[09:10] <segfault_> dv5000, xset might handle that
[09:10] <Justy-> soundray, i could only see it with live cd and couldnt write
[09:11] <THX-1138> segfault - ubotu has a link !backup
[09:11] <javaJake> jmitchj: send me "/var/log/syslog | grep ndis" output
[09:11] <THX-1138> guess i'll use that.
[09:11] <Justy-> soundray, and in the startup it couldnt mount root space(or drive i am not english)
[09:11] <Justy-> soundray, from now on i am going to use my ubuntu very carefully
[09:12] <Justy-> soundray, good night =) thanks again
[09:12] <joonas> how do i get dba_handlers into php5 in ubuntu? it says php5 was built with extension dba, but dba_handlers doesn't report anything
[09:12] <soundray> Justy-: you're welcome. Yes, it's good to be careful. It's also good to ask for advice as soon as you get errors that you don't quite understand.
[09:13] <Justy-> soundray, however some geeks here give bad answers when i ask them something silly that i dont know
[09:13] <Justy-> soundray, it can be very easy and noobish for them but it is not for me =(
[09:14] <THX-1138> Justy - and i thought you were going to be nice to me today. - lol
[09:14] <jmitchj> javaJake: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26656/
[09:14] <soundray> Justy-: look, it's no good insulting people here. Just ask back when the answers aren't clear, and make sure you know what you're doing.
[09:15] <misieq> i'm in the process of deploying linux based 'server' into windows network. i'd like it to serve a common contact windows (meaning ms outlook) contact book. can i use ldap to do that or should i use sth else?
[09:15] <javaJake> jmitchj: AHA!
[09:15] <javaJake> jmitchj: There's the issue
[09:15] <javaJake> jmitchj: bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[09:15] <THX-1138> ubotu roulette - here goes nothing..
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roulette - here goes nothing.. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <THX-1138> !ldap
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <raar> Ndiswrapper tells me "mrv8ka51                driver present, hardware present", but it won't show up in the System->Administration->Networking, any clue why that could be? (wireless lan)
[09:16] <kmaynard> misieq, you have a long, difficult road ahead if you're looking at ldap
[09:16] <kmaynard> !slapd
[09:16] <ubotu> slapd: OpenLDAP server (slapd). In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.26-5ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 852 kB, installed size 2404 kB
[09:16] <joonas> !php
[09:16] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[09:16] <javaJake> jmitchj: You need to run this:
[09:16] <misieq> kmaynard: right... i'll see to it later. good that they pay me for that ;)
[09:17] <misieq> kmaynard: anyway, it is possible with ldap, right?
[09:17] <pilpi> is it possible to install upgraded software from edgy repos but still stay on dapper?
[09:17] <THX-1138> there are some nice howtos on the forums else try the linux documentation project tldp.org
[09:17] <misieq> what else can i do with ldap?
[09:17] <mythril> is there any reason why I might suddenly have only 1 mode available in my xorg.conf (640x480@60)
[09:18] <LjL> mythril: yeah, using the GUI screenmode configuration, possibly...
[09:18] <LjL> mythril: try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:18] <javaJake> jmitchj: echo "blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[09:18] <mythril> LjL: will that bork anything other than X?
[09:18] <irkite> hi, how can i make ubuntu dapper drake remember which application i use to open a particular type of file?
[09:18] <misieq> can i make ldap provide ONLY contact book and not accounts/home folders/etc?
[09:18] <irkite> which = the*
[09:19] <javaJake> jmitchj: Once you run that, you should see "blacklist bcm43xx" at the end of the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:19] <LjL> mythril: no, it'll just touch xorg.conf
[09:19] <javaJake> irkite: Oh.... oh.... I know... but I dont remember... drat....
[09:19] <THX-1138> irkite - right click on the file and choose open with. - it is added magically.
[09:19] <irkite> oops my bad luck :D
[09:19] <w30>  /part
[09:19] <irkite> ok let me try
[09:19] <javaJake> irkite: No kidding....
[09:19] <Justy-> soundray, thanks for any advices and help s
[09:19] <javaJake> irkite: Oooh.... it's coming back... oh oh...
[09:20] <Justy-> soundray, now i reinstall, i hope i will be successful.. bye
[09:20] <soundray> Good luck, Justy-
[09:20] <grok> I have 2 sound cards, one is integrated in the motherboard and doesn't work and the other one is soundblaster audigy. ubuntu is trying to use the integrated one..i'm wondering how to switch my soundcard to the soundblaster (i had it working before, then i reinstalled ubuntu...)
[09:20] <irkite> javaJake: doesnt get added magically here, i want my video files to play with mplayer but they keep on opening with totem
[09:20] <misieq> can i make ldap provide ONLY contact book and not accounts/home folders/etc?
[09:20] <keegan_> !restricted
[09:20] <irkite> i have to always select from open with
[09:20] <soundray> grok: disable it in the BIOS setup
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:21] <sharkiezz> hi i have a real quick question
[09:21] <jmitchj> javaJake: nope
[09:21] <sharkiezz> its about the internet
[09:21] <javaJake> irkite: OK... oh... it's almost here... ooo... oo...
[09:21] <kmaynard> misieq, you may wanna ask around in #ldap
[09:21] <grok> soundray: i did, it still tries to use it...also the other card works with windows as well
[09:21] <misieq> ah.. thanks :)
[09:21] <irkite> javaJake: hehe don't strain yourself, thanks for helping
[09:21] <javaJake> irkite: OH! I GOT IT!
[09:21] <javaJake> irkite: LOL
[09:21] <irkite> cool :D
[09:21] <javaJake> irkite: Anyway, right click on the file, click Properties, and click the Open WIth tab.
[09:22] <javaJake> irkite: I have Mplayer Movie Player in that list
[09:22] <irkite> javaJake: awesome! thanks a lot :D
[09:22] <javaJake> YW
[09:22] <jmitchj> javaJake: Should I add that to the end of that file?
[09:22] <irkite> rawks, thanks, cya :D
[09:22] <javaJake> jmitchj: Yea
[09:22] <Zaggynl> anyone knows an alternative to the windows app 'filemon'
[09:22] <THX-1138> file types can be reset by deleting or renaming the following file:
[09:22] <THX-1138> ~/.mozilla/firefox/dvibi9j3.default/mimeTypes.rdf
[09:22] <THX-1138> firefox
[09:23] <keegan_> !restricted
[09:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:23] <soundray> Zaggynl: what does that do?
[09:23] <Zaggynl> http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Filemon.html
[09:23] <Zaggynl> monitor harddisk read/write
[09:23] <javaJake> jmitchj: Then you must reboot
[09:23] <javaJake> jmitchj: That should fix it... if not, then I have some other ideas
[09:23] <Zaggynl> lsof does the same, but it's an ugly CLI thing which also shows net stuff, I don't need :<
[09:23] <grok> can anyone tell me how to switch to a different soundcard thats already installed on the computer?
[09:24] <javaJake> grok: Yes....
[09:24] <grok> javaJake: goood!!
[09:24] <jmitchj> javaJake: ok i'll try rebooting
[09:24] <javaJake> grok: System -> Prefrences -> Sound
[09:24] <javaJake> jmitchj: Sounds good
[09:24] <grok> Javajake: ok ty
[09:24] <javaJake> grok: You should be able to select different cards.
[09:24] <soundray> Zaggynl: does 'tail -f' do what you want?
[09:24] <jmitchj> javaJake: should I uninstall ndiswrapper or anything?
[09:24] <Zaggynl> soundray, lemme try that :)
[09:24] <javaJake> jmitchj: No, this configuration is for ndiswrapper
[09:24] <jmitchj> ok
[09:25] <javaJake> jmitchj: Googling around showed that your problem was someone else's, and this was the fix.
[09:25] <soundray> Zaggynl: you have to give it a filename to tail, e.g. tail -f /var/log/syslog
[09:25] <Zaggynl> hmm
[09:25] <Zaggynl> I can't say, 'watch the whole hdd'
[09:25] <voltz> whats the ubuntu channel for edgy pls
[09:25] <erUSUL> !edgy
[09:25] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:25] <Kemikal> just how easy is it to run a stable and fast server with ubuntu offering http,mail,php,jabber?
[09:25] <voltz> thanks
[09:25] <javaJake> Zaggynl: No, because the output is bigger then the screen, so it'll scroll every refresh. Ugh
[09:25] <Zaggynl> when my hdd was ratling in windows, I would just fire up filemon to directly visually see what it was doing,  I would really like to have that in linux
[09:25] <javaJake> Zaggynl: Tail just gets the last 8 or so lines of the file
[09:26] <Zaggynl> ah okay
[09:26] <soundray> Zaggynl: also, have you looked at restricting lsof output? man lsof.  Also try lsof | grep keyword
[09:26] <Zaggynl> I'll take a look at the manual page
[09:27] <javaJake> soundray: Oohh... nice....
[09:27] <javaJake> lsof is cool!
[09:27] <javaJake> Wish that was in Windows. :|
[09:27] <javaJake> Holy smokes!
[09:27] <javaJake> YOu can even see what's accessing your sound card!
[09:28] <javaJake> Thanks soundray!
[09:28] <trappist> javaJake: fuser is similarly cool
[09:28] <THX-1138> javajake - never type lshw either.
[09:28] <Zaggynl> pah
[09:28] <Zaggynl> javaJake, Filemon > lsof
[09:28] <Zaggynl> I found this: http://glsof.sourceforge.net/?q=node/3
[09:28] <Zaggynl> but it won't compile
[09:29] <Laney> Is there an apt(itude) package that I can remove to get rid of gnome?
[09:29] <javaJake> THX-1138: Why not...?
[09:29] <javaJake> :P
[09:29] <Zaggynl> No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found ,No package 'gconf-2.0' found
[09:29] <Zaggynl>  aren't those standard in gnome?
[09:29] <c0s> Laney, yea you can apt-get xubuntu and run xfce
[09:29] <javaJake> Zaggynl: hold on a sec... I've got an idea that uses Ubuntu installed packages....
[09:29] <soundray> Zaggynl: why don't you go to Sysinternals and ask for a Linux port of filemon? I reckon for ca. 250.000$ they'll make you a deal.
[09:30] <jmitchj> javaJake: My card is not even in the list in Network settings now
[09:30] <Zaggynl> heheheh, I wish I had that much money
[09:30] <Juhaz> Zaggynl, they're standard, but you need the dev packages too if you're compiling something
[09:30] <soundray> Zaggynl: you need the -dev versions of those packages.
[09:30] <javaJake> jmitchj: Did you run "sudo ndiswrapper -m"?
[09:30] <Laney> I did that c0s, but gnome is still around. I could do with the space!
[09:30] <Zaggynl> ah cheers
[09:30] <javaJake> jmitchj: That gets ndiswrapper into your bootup for good
[09:30] <javaJake> jmitchj: If not, run this: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[09:31] <javaJake> jmitchj: Your card should then appear.
[09:31] <c0s> Laney, have you tried the kubuntu then you have kde?
[09:31] <jmitchj> javaJake: It says: modprobe config already contains alias directive
[09:31] <javaJake> Zaggynl: Nvm... my idea was to use "System Logs" but that wants a file
[09:31] <javaJake> jmitchj: Then what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[09:31] <c0s> ..
[09:31] <Zaggynl> hmm filemon for linux was discontinued, since the newer kernerl release constantly broke the app
[09:32] <Laney> I know about these c0s, and have installed Xubuntu. What I want to do now is *get rid* of gnome if possible. I don't need to have xfce and gnome both hanging around.
[09:32] <javaJake> c0s: Kubuntu stinks... doesn't even have make!!! What distro could possibly live without make??? :P
[09:32] <jmitchj> javaJake: Installed ndis drivers:
[09:32] <jmitchj> bcmwl5          driver present, hardware present
[09:32] <bruenig> Laney, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[09:32] <c0s> javaJake, real was just throwing options lol
[09:33] <Laney> Holy shit at that apt line :O
[09:33] <THX-1138> O-oh "Windows Filemon PRO Suite Hacker Zapper Comeplete" ported to linux only $399 dollars
[09:33] <bruenig> Laney, ubuntu is big
[09:33] <soundray> javaJake: both Ubuntu and Kubuntu come without compiling tools by default. Install the build-essential package.
[09:33] <jmitchj> javaJake: maybe i have the wrong driver?
[09:34] <javaJake> c0s: My experience with Kubuntu was nasty - I was trying to get ndiswrapper to install without internet connection.
[09:34] <c0s> bruenig, nice link thanks for that info
[09:34] <pike_> someone tell me real quick what repo libpango1.0-dev is in?
[09:34] <Zaggynl> yay compiling succeeded!
[09:34] <javaJake> jmitchj: mmm... no... because ndiswrapper says device is present
[09:34] <bruenig> c0s, oh was that you asking, I thought it was Laney
[09:34] <THX-1138> !info libpango1.0
[09:34] <ubotu> Package libpango1.0 does not exist in any distro I know
[09:34] <bruenig> ndiswrapper wouldn't have anything to do with the DE, at least I wouldn't think
[09:34] <THX-1138> !info pango
[09:35] <ubotu> Package pango does not exist in any distro I know
[09:35] <c0s> bruenig, it was Laney but anything I can get to learn more I am bout it lol
[09:35] <javaJake> jmitchj: Well, my last option is to get the bcm43xx native driver, and remove ndiswrapper
[09:35] <bruenig> !msg
[09:35] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[09:35] <c0s> !info vino
[09:35] <pike_> hmm
[09:35] <soundray> pike_: it's in main
[09:35] <ubotu> vino: VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.13.5-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 162 kB, installed size 1776 kB
[09:36] <Dionys> guys, my ubuntu wont distupgrade because of the ubuntu-desktop, it askes me to first install xorg and mesa ( but im using xorg with fglrx atm )
[09:36] <soundray> !info libpango1.0-dev
[09:36] <ubotu> libpango1.0-dev: Development files for the Pango. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 293 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[09:36] <pike_> soundray: ah so it is. libgtk2.0-dev was complaining
[09:36] <jmitchj> javaJake: unfortunately...i have to leave...
[09:36] <Dionys> 6.06 -> 6.10
[09:36] <javaJake> jmitchj: OK.
[09:36] <bruenig> Dionys, might have to bite the bullet and change that after everything is updated. Updating has always had the potential to mess some things up
[09:36] <peeps> where do you configure the files modprobe will load on boot?
[09:37] <Zaggynl> gah, it compiled, but glsof does not work
[09:37] <Zaggynl> doesn't react to any button
[09:37] <soundray> Hey Blissex, same provider ;)
[09:37] <esj> in /etc/modules.conf I believe
[09:37] <b03nto> peeps, /etc/modules
[09:37] <Dionys> so bruenig I must go back and then install the other xorg with fglrx support ?
[09:37] <Blissex> soundray: great minds/tossers think alike :-)
[09:38] <esj> what's the difference between modules and modules.conf?
[09:38] <Zaggynl> Anyone has a working .deb for glsof? :(
[09:38] <bruenig> Dionys, probably.
[09:38] <b03nto> esj, i dont have modules.conf
[09:38] <Blissex> soundray: also, Zen is pretty good at solving issues, so I am happy to pay a bit more than for the others...
[09:38] <Dionys> well Ill try :)
[09:38] <esj> that might be a artifact of the VM Ware machine I'm running
[09:39] <soundray> Blissex: yeah, but they screwed up when I moved, and I was on dialup for a month :(  ... we're going offtopic. Sorry guys
[09:39] <blind> I need a program. I want to split an avi file, and get all the individual frames, edit them in GIMP, and put them back together as an AVI.
[09:39] <esj> anyway, I was in here a day or two ago complaining about an ethernet card problem.  The virtual machine environment Screwed up something and ethernet cards were ETH1 and ETH 2
[09:39] <esj> but I found a solution
[09:40] <didek> hi
[09:40] <bruenig> !info avidemux
[09:40] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2607 kB, installed size 6756 kB
[09:40] <esj> turned out when the VMware client-side tools were installed, it was a little bit of instructions that I thought they did but they left it up as an exercise to the installer
[09:40] <IcemanV9> is it possible to fax from ubuntu on laptop? (i know ubotu have no clue on fax :)
[09:41] <esj> http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=57950&tstart=0  is the saga
[09:41] <bruenig> fax? You got punchcards too?
[09:41] <soundray> Blissex: look at that, Psychobudgie is another Zen customer. Never seen any before, now two within minutes...
[09:41] <esj> fax is a time honored technology going back into the late 1800 (if memory serves)
[09:42] <IcemanV9> bruenig: fax some documents (save trees -papers ;)
[09:42] <Psychobudgie> zen are a quality isp
[09:42] <bruenig> how does it save trees? Wouldn't emailing it save trees
[09:42] <esj> Only on one side (saving trees)
[09:42] <esj> I think e-mailing PDF files is the way to go
[09:42] <Blissex> a very ridiculous thing is that there is a standard for fax-by-email :-)
[09:42] <soundray> Psychobudgie: yeah, except when you try to use their great ADSL Move service
[09:42] <javaJake> Bye everyone
[09:43] <IcemanV9> i agreed on email + pdf, but this fool requires fax :(
[09:43] <edulix> hi
[09:43] <pike_> can someone else try to apt-get libgtk2.0-dev real quick seems broken
[09:43] <esj> Are there not some services will let you e-mail and they will fax for you?
[09:43] <edulix> how can i pause a download in d4x? i can only stop it, and after that, it starts again from zero
[09:43] <Psychobudgie> soundray,  never had a problem with them
[09:43] <esj> Or am I thinking the other way around
[09:44] <Gwildor_> hey....tab view w/ gnome-xchat.....how-to plz ?
[09:44] <IcemanV9> esj: i think efax or something. alright. guess fax does not work from ubuntu.
 : look at http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Printing-HOWTO/faxing.html
[09:44] <soundray> Psychobudgie: neither did I in my three years until I moved last month
[09:44] <esj> There are some facts packages out there but it's a lot of work to get started
[09:44] <esj> tpc.int
[09:45] <esj> tpc.int was a network of fax machines you could reach by e-mail
[09:45] <peeps> anyone know what sbp2 module is?
[09:45] <soundray> Psychobudgie: never mind, let's stop this or meet in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <peeps> i am surprised there are only two modules in my /etc/modules
[09:45] <bruenig> Gwildor_, my suggestion is "sudo apt-get remove gnome-xchat && sudo apt-get install xchat"
[09:45] <IcemanV9> thks atlef
[09:45] <duckdown> Hey.. I've got a question..  A webpage I frequent keeps failing to load because the stupid ad server it's page is using keeps timing out..  How can I make an internet address just resolve to 127.0.0.1
[09:45] <blind> I need a program. I want to split an avi file, and get all the individual frames, edit them in GIMP, and put them back together as an AVI.
[09:45] <kmaynard> gnome-xchat works fine
[09:45] <esj> Note, doesn't exist anymore
[09:46] <duckdown> like ads.ign.com -> 127.0.0.1
[09:46] <soundray> duckdown: make an entry for it in /etc/hosts
[09:46] <Gwildor_> kmaynard: ok...how to get tab view?
[09:46] <Gwildor_> bruenig: yeah..didnt see xchat....but, didnt check multi/uni either
[09:46] <kmaynard> whats it doing now, opening new windows?
[09:46] <esj> http://www.tpc.int/
[09:46] <esj> There is your faxing solution
[09:46] <Gwildor_> kmaynard: tree view
[09:46] <Ma1> hey guys what do I need to test my php pages on my local computer?
[09:47] <kmaynard> have you checked the preferences?
[09:47] <soundray> duckdown: or install the AdBlock extension to Firefox. Easier to maintain in the long run.
[09:47] <Gwildor_> kmaynard: yes
[09:47] <peeps> Gwildor: View->Layout
[09:47] <Gwildor_> peeps: no view
[09:47] <peeps> uh
[09:47] <esj>  icemanv9:  did you see that note about http://www.tpc.int/
[09:47] <duckdown> soundray> thanks!
[09:48] <kmaynard> huh, maybe you should just use plain ol xchat
[09:48] <bruenig> !info xchat
[09:48] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[09:48] <IcemanV9> esj: yes. :)
[09:48] <soundray> duckdown: any time
[09:48] <esj> it may work
[09:48] <Gwildor_> kmaynard: guess im gonna.....cuz, this gnome version SUCKS!
 : http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page
[09:48] <bruenig> It is in universe Gwildor_, get it, you know you want to
[09:48] <Gwildor_> kk..bb guys
[09:48] <Gwildor_> bruenig: yup, heading now...laters
[09:48] <kmaynard> Q. Can xchat-gnome be configured to use tabs?
[09:48] <kmaynard> A. No. Adding this capability would require creating some very messy code, and doesnt really add anything to the program. xchat-gnome is not meant to replace X-Chat gtk+ for power users who have grown attached to its interface, but instead provide an alternative.
[09:48] <Zaggynl> Well I made a post over here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1614018 , let's see what happens :)
[09:48] <Gwildor_> thnx guys
[09:49] <sc0tt> hm
[09:49] <Gwildor_> kmaynard: thats.....dumb....but laters!
[09:49] <sc0tt> howcomes xmms/amarok don't like playing recursive directories over an smb mount?
[09:49] <peeps> is there some way to see a description of the different kernel modules?
[09:50] <soundray> peeps: modinfo
[09:50] <rixxon> what packages to install to get kde on a gnome ubuntu?
[09:50] <Paradoxx> i wrote a script so install common app for new installations. Is there anyway for me to have the script run till the end without the user having to input "y" to install?
[09:50] <kitche> rixxon: kubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <rixxon> kitche: nothing more? it works with gdb?
[09:50] <Wheelybin> Hello there, I don't see this mentioned in the FAQ (havent seen the wiki, is there an ubuntu wiki?) But I don't like the program that manages the Screensavers. Can I download or replace it?
[09:51] <peeps> thank you soundray
[09:51] <kitche> rixxon: kubuntu-desktopw will pull all of kde for you
[09:51] <kitche> bah can't type today it seesm :(
[09:51] <soundray> peeps: any time
[09:51] <rixxon> kitche: err, not gdb, i mean gdm
[09:51] <Xyphosura> Hello i have been asking myself if there exist alternative atidrivers, with opengl support?
[09:51] <duckdown> soundray> ya, problem with adblock was that it was still trying to LOAD the images before flat out blocking them though, causing the page to hang :(
[09:51] <soundray> rixxon: yes, it does.
[09:51] <kmaynard> Wheelybin, i think you can replace it...it's either xscreensaver or screensaverx
[09:51] <rixxon> kitche: yes but how does it work together with gnome? i want to chose via the display manager
[09:51] <Wheelybin> !ati
[09:51] <kitche> rixxon: it should if you select it in the session before you log in
[09:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:51] <RvGaTe> What is there available for video editing in ubuntu? and does it have software to get raw data from a digital video camera?
[09:51] <kmaynard> !xscreensaver
[09:51] <ubotu> xscreensaver: Automatic screensaver for X. In component main, is optional. Version 4.23-4ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 270 kB, installed size 2228 kB
[09:51] <rixxon> kitche: will it overwrite gdm with kdm?
[09:52] <duckdown> sc0tt> that's my biggest annoyance.. XMMS pisses me off
[09:52] <peeps> how are scsi drivers and sata related
[09:52] <kmaynard> they both start with s?
[09:52] <kitche> rixxon: umm not that I know of but I don't use any of the display managers
[09:52] <sc0tt> :(
[09:52] <zool2005> looking at the forum, lots of people are having trouble with external HDDs. Which brands/models would people recommend?
[09:52] <sc0tt> me too
[09:52] <rixxon> kitche: ok. thank you!
[09:52] <Xyphosura> Is there an alternative to fglrx?
[09:52] <peeps> well, to use sata, it seems some scsi drivers are usually required in my experience
[09:52] <kitche> Xyphosura: ati
[09:52] <soundray> duckdown: try adding a /etc/hosts entry for that particular server. Maybe you can also make a manual blocking entry in the AdBlock config, then it won't access that server at all.
[09:52] <peeps> i don't know why though
[09:53] <duckdown> sc0tt I found a program called Exaile! that works well, you should tr it
[09:53] <IcemanV9> Xyphosura: ati, radeon, mesa, vesa
[09:53] <kmaynard> serial ata, scsi is also serial
[09:53] <kitche> Xyphosura: ati is what xorg calls the open source wrapper for all of their drivers
[09:53] <sc0tt> duckdown, url?
[09:54] <anmar> Hello guys. I have a core due lenovo laptop and sounds is not working. I get no errors but no sounds comes out. any help is diagnozing the problem is appreciated
[09:54] <BoyBach> hello is anyone able to help with my query regarding ssh.
[09:54] <kmaynard> BoyBach, depends on what it is
[09:54] <soundray> BoyBach: try us.
[09:54] <fabiim> hi guys , I'm trying to change the owner of  a directory   that i have in wich is mounted (read-only ) a  harddrive, I doing  -> sudo chown  USER  /directory  and I get this output : chown : changing ownership  of /directory  : Read-only  file system . So I try to dir into the directory   get : Permission denied . I also checked if the owner has changed and nothing , stiil root . What's wrong?
[09:55] <Xyphosura> kitche: i am afraid i dont understand you completly?
[09:55] <soundray> fabiim: sudo chown -R
[09:55] <ubuntuer> how can i make "uname -p" detect my processor (amd sempron k7, and linux-k7 kernel)?
[09:55] <kitche> Xyphosura: ati driver will choose the best driver for your card :)
[09:55] <Xyphosura> ah ok
[09:56] <kmaynard> fabiim, how you gonna change permissions for a read-only drive?
[09:56] <ParoXsitiC> I have a network setup with ICS where my windows PC is directly connected and is used as a router to my Ubuntu machine. I am hosting a type of service that runs on port 9997 on the linux machine. I have opened the 9997 TCP port in the properties of the windows ICS. How can I get outside traffic to be able to access the linux's service on port 9997 when they connect to the Windows PC's IP
[09:56] <BoyBach> I have read an article on the use of ssh on a linux box, I would like to install this on mine and us my xp machine to connect to the box.
[09:56] <Xyphosura> but ati stopped suporting my card and their driver contain some bugs, which make a particulary program crash
[09:56] <Guestking> does someone know a good scripting url i need to make a script wich will put the pdf files int a specified directory an also the txt files into another specified drictory , this must be done into 1 script plz help!
[09:56] <BoyBach> I cant seem to figure out if i have installed it or not.
[09:56] <soundray> ubuntuer: that's probably not worth the effort. Try cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
[09:56] <fabiim> soundray : still : permission denied  , kmaynard : i wan't to be able to read and execute. Am I doing something wrong ?
[09:57] <kmaynard> BoyBach, did you run sudo apt-get install ssh  ?
[09:57] <jrib> fabiim: what filesystem is this?
[09:57] <ParoXsitiC> BoyBach I did this yesterday. Synapic Package manager and reloaded, then I installed the SSHServer
[09:57] <Xyphosura> Is there an alternative to fglrx?
[09:57] <BoyBach> no new to linux, that would load the ssh.
[09:57] <fabiim> ntfs
[09:57] <kitche> Guestking: that seems like a very basic script
[09:57] <jrib> ubotu: tell fabiim about ntfs
[09:58] <fabiim> yess tell me ! :)
[09:58] <jrib> fabiim: see that page to see how to mound with the proper options to give you ownership
[09:58] <Guestking> yes thats true but i am totaly new into to this
[09:58] <jrib> mount*
[09:58] <soundray> Xyphosura: for old cards, yes. Try the radeon and ati drivers in the X configuration (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[09:58] <fabiim> it didn't give me any page
[09:58] <kitche> GuestKing hang on a second I'll make a quick thing up real quick
[09:58] <BoyBach> returned could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock, temporarily unavialbe
[09:58] <jrib> fabiim: you didn't get a private message from ubotu?
[09:58] <Guestking> thnx
[09:58] <fabiim> but i presume that's in the wiki right?
[09:59] <ParoXsitiC> BoyBoch: you have to run sudo first
[09:59] <ephesius> BoyBach: just do "sudo apt-get install ssh" and then download putty to connect to it from a windows box
[09:59] <ParoXsitiC> BoyBoch: sudo apt-get install ssh
[09:59] <kmaynard> BoyBach, you may wanna look at some basic ubuntu/linux tutorials
[09:59] <sc0tt> haha
[09:59] <ephesius> BoyBach: putty would be for your windows box
[09:59] <sc0tt> duckdown, i have xmms playing
[09:59] <fabiim> oh ! i did got a message from him . thanks :)
[09:59] <sc0tt> a smb mounted share
[09:59] <sc0tt> ;)
[09:59] <zmutte> heya
[09:59] <Xyphosura> soundray: sorry if i am a bit noobish: but do they make opengl work?
[09:59] <fabiim> !fuse
[09:59] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:00] <BoyBach> kmaynard : got some good sites ?
[10:00] <sureshot> how do to i get gparted not to mount a drive it is trying to format...
[10:00] <ParoXsitiC> Traffic connecting to my windows PC is not correctly forwarding to my linux one. I am using ICS and I port forwarded it correctly. Is there anything I would have to set on the linux machine
[10:00] <soundray> Xyphosura: depends on your card. Only way to find out is to try. I have an old ATI Rage card that works very well with OpenGL
[10:00] <kmaynard> BoyBach, ubuntu.com and google are great starts...look up ssh howto
[10:01] <tk> THX-1138: I figured out my NTFS problem
[10:01] <zmutte> I am wondering about how raid 1 works with linux, I am installing ubuntu server on a rx100 s3 fujitsu siemens server and I have configured raid1 in the raid-bios. but I still get two units when partitioning in ubuntu installer, shouldn't it show only one harddrive because of the raid1?
[10:01] <BoyBach> cheers
[10:01] <sureshot> Xyphosure i have a mobility x600 se that works fine with opengl and xgl and beryl
[10:01] <soundray> Xyphosura: thinking about it, I think I have that running with fglrx though, so that info is no use to you... Try it out.
[10:01] <Xyphosura> soundray : if i use the X configuration (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg), then it will probably work?
[10:02] <soundray> Xyphosura: yes. Try radeon first, and ati if that doesn't work
[10:02] <kmaynard> its best to do homework, then ask specific questions..."teach me [foo] " is not a great tactic unless you paypal me in advance
[10:02] <kitche> GuestKing http://reddphoenix.com/pdfandtxt.sh
[10:03] <Guestking> i gonna look thnx m8
[10:03] <kitche> GuestKing you have to edit the script a bit sicne <folder> has ot be changed to what fodler you want to go into
[10:03] <meuserj> any idea how to do the equivalent of "ipconfig eth0 0.0.0.0"  in /etc/network/interfaces?  When I configure it statically with 0.0.0.0 as the address it complains.
[10:03] <sureshot> soundray if he is trying for the first time try vesa ast at 1024 x 768 to get it going then try the flrgx or radeon or the ati
[10:04] <Xyphosura> soundray: is there more information about the features  about that?
[10:04] <kmaynard> !google
[10:04] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[10:04] <kmaynard> ha
[10:04] <Guestking> yes  i know but it has to be psific folders but thats something wat i can do
[10:04] <soundray> sureshot: you haven't followed the entire thread.
[10:04] <Guestking> lol
[10:05] <Guestking> but do you maybe know some good learning pages for scripting as well ?
[10:05] <soundray> Xyphosura: I bet there is, if you search the web for your exact card model.
[10:05] <sureshot> soundray haveing to help 2 kids with home work  sorry i will keep my mouth shut again sorry
[10:05] <soundray> sureshot: no worries.
[10:05] <sureshot> soundray haveing to help 2 kids with home work  sorry i will keep my mouth shut again sorry
[10:05] <kitche> Guestking: hey at least I showed you a basic script :) Guestking there is tons of pages on it you just have to find a good page there is books for it though
[10:05] <sureshot> how do to i get gparted not to mount a drive it is trying to format...
[10:05] <kmaynard> Guestking, google rute linux
[10:05] <kmaynard> the rute tutorial rules
[10:06] <soundray> sureshot: my 11-year-old keeps popping up and asking me noobish javascript questions :)
[10:06] <sureshot> soundray is spelling i falled that in school LOLOL
[10:06] <nolimitsoya> hi, does anyone know why the rendering of the treeview in thunar goer fubar when - from the icon lane - deleting or moving a folder vissible in a tree?
[10:06] <Guestking> well  i am shearshing eveywhere as well onto torrents but i think im a little blind can't fond anything
[10:06] <Xyphosura> soundray: these drivers  are not what ubuntu uses standard or are they?
[10:07] <DrBanzai> It appears that someone is attempting to hack into my desktop box.  Anything I can do about it???
[10:07] <nolimitsoya> DrBanzai, get i firewall? :)
[10:07] <sureshot> soundray they need to do spelling work sentences not good for my LOL i let the computer do that for me
[10:07] <vicscandl> !perl > vicscandl
[10:07] <Guestking> but hey you owe me something
[10:07] <DrBanzai> nolimitsoya, I have a Coyote Linux firewall
[10:07] <phaedrus_> DrBanzai     use ubuntu
[10:07] <phaedrus_> hehe
[10:07] <meuserj> any idea how to do the equivalent of "ipconfig eth0 0.0.0.0"  in /etc/network/interfaces?  When I configure it statically with 0.0.0.0 as the address it complains.
[10:08] <sureshot> <<
[10:08] <Guestking> uhh i owe you something
[10:08] <DrBanzai> phaedrus_, I'm using ubuntu
[10:08] <sureshot> how do to i get gparted not to mount a drive it is trying to format...
[10:08] <phaedrus_> i was joking
[10:08] <soundray> Xyphosura: they are part of the standard xorg stuff that comes with ubuntu, but they aren't enabled by default I think. It depends on the autodetection at install time.
[10:08] <nolimitsoya> DrBanzai, trace their ip and report to their isp
[10:09] <nolimitsoya> still noone who has experienced the same thunar-issue as i have?
[10:09] <Xyphosura> soundray: ok thanks for the help
[10:09] <DrBanzai> nolimitsoya, Yes, I will do that.
[10:09] <sureshot> soundray i think it defaults to ati when installing that is nasty some card wont work that way
[10:09] <peter77> Hi, when is edgy due to be released?
[10:09] <Guestking> but realy thnk you VERY much and sorry for my bad english
[10:09] <jrib> ubotu: tell peter77 about schedule
[10:09] <gnomefreak> peter77: 26th of oct
[10:10] <THX-1138> DrBanzai: If you have a huge network to protect - man iptables, bastilles and conntrack are worth a look.
[10:10] <DrBanzai> THX-1138, Nope, this is just my home network
[10:10] <soundray> sureshot: yes, I've had that bad experience. --- Do you want to try a spelling game that we wrote as a javascript learning exercise?
[10:10] <peter77> If I download the beta now can I easily upgrade the beta without the need to donwload the whole release?
[10:11] <nolimitsoya> not a single xubuntu-user in here, or what? :/
[10:11] <IcemanV9> peter77: that is correct
[10:11] <nolimitsoya> is there a separate xubuntuchannel?
[10:11] <sureshot> soundray if you follow my spelling here on the channel you would know i would fear that to no end ....
[10:11] <sureshot> soundray if you follow my spelling here on the channel you would know i would fear that to no end ....
[10:11] <sureshot> how do to i get gparted not to mount a drive it is trying to format...
[10:11] <peter77> what that I need to donwload again or I can upgrade easily?
[10:11] <THX-1138> DrBanzai: Draw an ascii art file of a extended middle finger and display it on the fortune ports?
[10:11] <DrBanzai> Hmmm... mail.smhb.gov.cn  They are from Canada?
[10:11] <nolimitsoya> sureshot, ive never seen it do so
[10:12] <IcemanV9> !upgrade > peter77
[10:12] <phaedrus_> nolimitsoya:  /join #xubuntu
[10:12] <peter77> will it be a big upgrade (above 1GB
[10:12] <nolimitsoya> phaedrus_, thank you
[10:12] <zmutte> Hey, anyone who got expericence configuring raid 1 @ ubuntu?
[10:12] <DrBanzai> THX-1138, Also an mighty fine suggestion
[10:12] <kmaynard> zmutte, yo
[10:12] <atlef> how reliable are the tests on this site, https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 ?
[10:12] <zmutte> kmaynard: heya
[10:12] <sureshot> nolimitsoya i go to format it ext3 it gives an error cant format an mounted drive you have to unmount it to get the mount command to be used
[10:12] <nolimitsoya> sureshot, use the umount-command to unmount any partitions that you want to edit, thatmight have been mounted at boot
[10:12] <peter77> I use to have drake on my laptop but had to revert back to suse because of a faulty ACPI in drake
[10:13] <SB|nblracer> br1an
[10:13] <kmaynard> zmutte, i did it with the installer tho, not after it was installed
[10:13] <IcemanV9> peter77: depends. i don't think it's more than 1Gb just for upgrade.
[10:13] <sureshot> thanks
[10:13] <peter77> also will XGL work off the live dvd?
[10:13] <DrBanzai> What's the best way to find out more about their IP address?  I have it in my logs, from when they tried umteen usernames that don't exsist on my system...
[10:13] <zmutte> kmaynard: I was thinking that, if I configure raid1 @ raid-bios then the installer should only see one harddrive, due to the controller controlls the raid on lower level than the installer, but I doesn't seem that way
[10:14] <soundray> sureshot: http://www.soundray.org/spellingpractice/  (sorry, you'll have to practice some German at the same time :)
[10:14] <sureshot> herre is a noob question what is the syntax to unmount a drive
[10:15] <kmaynard> zmutte, partition both the disks the same, then set them up using the raid otion in the ubuntu server installer. one will be mda and one will be mdb
[10:15] <DrBanzai> Is there a security channel here on FreeNode?
[10:15] <soundray> sureshot: if it's a removable/usb disk: eject /media/mountpoint
[10:15] <THX-1138> lol@soundray's site
[10:15] <THX-1138> !mount
[10:15] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:15] <zmutte> kmaynard: Thats kind of wierd though, because If the raid-bios is set to raid-1, why should the installer detect two harddrives?
[10:15] <soundray> sureshot: if it's a hard disk partition: 'sudo umount /dev/hda1'
[10:16] <sureshot> it is a 250 gig drive ran through a sata to usb converter
[10:16] <kmaynard> zmutte, the OS has to know to use it as raid1
[10:16] <THX-1138> !ubotu is an amnsesiac
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is an amnsesiac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <zmutte> kmaynard: I thought the raid-controller manages the mirroring by itself
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[10:16] <b03nto> DrBanzai, or www.samspade.org
[10:16] <soundray> THX-1138: I hope that was a friendly lol...
[10:16] <katsura> hello anyone knows a amd64 version of Skype for ubuntu 6,10 ?
[10:16] <DrBanzai> Thanks guys
[10:16] <nolimitsoya> sureshot, for example, if the partition is hda1, the syntax would be: sudo umount /dev/hda1
[10:17] <kmaynard> zmutte, im using software raid. you may wanna google and make sure your hardware raid will play nice
[10:17] <ephesius> DrBanzai: whats the ip?
[10:17] <kmaynard> !mdadm
[10:17] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux md device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is standard. Version 1.12.0-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 348 kB
[10:17] <soundray> katsura: no, but you can run the 32bit version with 'linux32 skype'
[10:17] <zmutte> kmaynard: Yeah, have done it, but I will check it out more
[10:17] <THX-1138> soundray absolutely richtig
[10:17] <J_P> Hey all, Are there anyone software that open file .CDR (corel draw) ?
[10:17] <soundray> katsura: look in the forums for the good instructions from kilz
[10:17] <DrBanzai> ephesius,  Invalid user gopher from ::ffff:211.144.103.4
[10:17] <kmaynard> zmutte, so what happens, does the installer detect 2 drives?
[10:17] <katsura> no :( it said that it is the wrong kernel
[10:18] <RvGaTe> What is there available for video editing in ubuntu? and does it have software to get raw data from a digital video camera?
[10:18] <zmutte> kmaynard: yeah, but I think there is problem with the controller configuration, will check it out more
[10:18] <peter77> so will XGL work off live dvd and is it worth replacing suse with ubuntu?
[10:18] <soundray> katsura: have you found and used the kilz instructions?
[10:18] <kmaynard> zmutte, on a decent system, software raid overhead is almost nil
[10:18] <ephesius> RvGaTe: kino...i dont know how good it is for editing it worked for my needs and you can import from a dv camera
[10:19] <Szaman> oes anyone know if it is possible to send or recive multicast traffic on selected interface in C
[10:19] <katsura> soundray, no where is it?
[10:19] <THX-1138> RvGaTe: I have heard something about "kino" does that look like what you need?
[10:19] <RvGaTe> ephesius, great, i have a dv camera right here, does it work with firewire/usb etc?
[10:19] <SB|nblracer> need help formating and deelting partion
[10:19] <RvGaTe> ephesius, what i mean, can i import it using usb :P
[10:20] <Websteria> I just came here to give my absolute love of Ubuntu as a linux distro
[10:20] <SB|nblracer> i used Fdisk /dev/hdb1 and it says unable to open
[10:20] <RvGaTe> Websteria, welcome to the club
[10:20] <Websteria> I tried LinuxFromScratch and Debian, but neither was as easy to use or as wonderful as Ubuntu
[10:20] <ephesius> RvGaTe: worked with usb not sure about firewaire as i dont have it
[10:20] <Websteria> Debian was ok, but I couldn't get Xgl set up on it to save my life
[10:21] <THX-1138> Websteria - We are all ubuntu lovers (please don't tell my wife.)
[10:21] <Websteria> hahahaha... I used to think Ubuntu was just for noobs, then I Realized it's really for anyone who doesn't want to have to do unnecessary work
[10:21] <atlef> DrBanzai : http://arin.net/
[10:21] <kmaynard> SB|nblracer, fdisk /dev/hdb
[10:21] <kmaynard> leave off the 1
[10:21] <soundray> katsura: sorry, kilz's instructions are for firefox, but they are a great starting point nevertheless: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:21] <SB|nblracer> i tryed that too
[10:22] <kmaynard> is it mounted?
[10:22] <SB|nblracer> kmaynard that also says un able to accesess
[10:22] <kmaynard> SB|nblracer, sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[10:22] <kitche> Websteria: umm LFS isn't meant to be easy to use :)
[10:22] <Websteria> I know
[10:22] <SB|nblracer> kmaynard how do you mount?
[10:22] <Websteria> I figured it'd be the best way to learn how to do stuff
[10:22] <peter77> whats diferent about the CD and DVD?
[10:22] <Websteria> and it taught me a lot
[10:22] <Websteria> so did Debian
[10:22] <kmaynard> SB|nblracer, mount [device]  [target] 
[10:23] <soundray> Good bye guys, see you in ~48 hours
[10:23] <Websteria> I'm still nervous to setup a firewall in Linux though....
[10:23] <Websteria> I'm using my router firewall
[10:23] <Spudulike> Hi room.  I have just done a Dapper install.  The 'Software Updates' now wants to install two Linux images 2.6.15-26-386 and 27-386.  These seems wrong.  Is it?
[10:23] <jvai> gnetoo gives me nytemarez. & i've never used it! lol.... i'll stik w/ ubuntu
[10:24] <soundray> Websteria: don't be -- use firestarter.  That was definitely my last line :)
[10:24] <Websteria> k
[10:24] <THX-1138> peter77 - Three different install methods - text (alternate), One click live CD goodness, and OEM - also a bunch of packages that can help if your bandwidth is a problem. -get the dvd one place and use it somewhere else.
[10:24] <marcee> i cant run my pc , it say error 15 at the begin
[10:24] <Kazukisan> newest wine version i just compiled on ubuntu edgy, i did a apt-get build-dep wine first then i compiled the wine and then this -> wine in cosole = Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:24] <Websteria> my router firewall seems to randomly shut ports
[10:24] <Websteria> it pisses me off
[10:24] <marcee> its a grub error
[10:24] <RvGaTe> Kino was it right ?
[10:25] <Websteria> Is it possible to run the linux box as a router and firewall with just one ethernet card, or do I need two?
[10:25] <THX-1138> Kino - yes
[10:25] <RvGaTe> That for Gnome ?
[10:25] <SB|nblracer> kmaynard says it cant be found
[10:25] <kitche> Websteria: umm you need to if your gonna use it as a router
[10:25] <Websteria> nevermind, obviously I can't plug my cable modem into one ethernet card then have that same ethernet card for the inside network
[10:25] <Websteria> :-)
[10:26] <kmaynard> SB|nblracer, you need google
[10:26] <SB|nblracer> will do
[10:26] <THX-1138> Websteria - erm it is very possible to alias an ethernet card with tweo ip addresses. - not very smart for a 'net interface.
[10:26] <marcee> I recently updated my breezy to dapper  on my pc , but when attempting to boot I get an Error 15 message.
[10:26] <marcee> What is Error 15. What do I need to do to do in order to boot my system?
[10:26] <Websteria> I think the thing that made me fall in love with ubuntu and linux in general were two things: mt-dappd and hellanzb
[10:26] <Websteria> and nomachine
[10:27] <Websteria> At least when things break in Linux there are decent error messages as opposed to Windows
[10:27] <captine> anyone here use dtc on their machines?  just followed a howto, but i get an error when installing this?
[10:27] <lmineiro> Hi! I'm trying to setup dapper in my IBM x346 box with a QLogic Fiber Chanel HBA, module qla2400. The install CD doesn't support that card although its in the kernel version. Assuming that I'd debootstrap dapper and install by hand, whats the procedure to rebuild the bundled kernel with support for that module?
[10:27] <jhasse> How can i minimize an opengl application?
[10:27] <jvai> firestartr's sweet, tho i'm behind the apple airport, there's funny things happening on the network still
[10:27] <ephesius> Websteria: Error there is something wrong! lol
[10:27] <Websteria> hahahahah
[10:27] <kmaynard> Websteria, you call hex on a blue screen decent? have you *heard* of /var/log ?
[10:27] <Websteria> just when things do have problems cause I screwed something up
[10:27] <kmaynard> oh wait
[10:28] <Websteria> No, I meant /Var/log was MUCH better than the hex
[10:28] <kmaynard> i insanely read that wrong
[10:28] <RvGaTe> ephesius, ok, i plugged in the cam, startup up kino, now what do i do?
[10:28] <ephesius> haha
[10:28] <IcemanV9> jhasse: alt+f9 ?
[10:28] <kmaynard> Websteria, my bad
[10:28] <ephesius> RvGaTe: there should just be an option to capture it from the ca
[10:28] <kmaynard> :)
[10:28] <Websteria> One thing that does bug me. When I start Konsole in Gnome it seems to take about a second to load. Under debian it seemed to load faster. Is something possibly misconfigured?
[10:28] <jhasse> IcemanV9, thx, i try
[10:28] <THX-1138> lmineiro - support here is rather hit-or-miss - try canonical it is a sure thing.
[10:28] <Websteria> Or is there a gnome terminal prog I should be using
[10:29] <THX-1138> !canonical
[10:29] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[10:29] <RvGaTe> ephesius, how do i know it recognizes my camera
[10:29] <RvGaTe> ?
[10:29] <ladydoor> Websteria: a whole SECOND??? Oh dear! and aterm's faster
[10:29] <jhasse> IcemanV9, sry doesn't work
[10:29] <kmaynard> Websteria, Applications | Accessories | Terminal
[10:29] <ladydoor> Websteria: gnome-terminal's popular, but it messes with keybindings a lot.
[10:29] <Websteria> well, I'm used to things starting instantly. It is a PEntium 4 2.6 with a gig of ram
[10:29] <ephesius> RvGaTe: hold on let me grab my laptop i forget how to do it.
[10:29] <Websteria> I'm just saying windows seems to start apps "Snappier"
[10:29] <RvGaTe> ephesius, sure
[10:29] <lmineiro> cheers
[10:29] <IcemanV9> jhasse: that's all i know :(
[10:30] <kmaynard> you may wanna try the 686 kernel image
[10:30] <Websteria> ah... that might help eh
[10:30] <Websteria> :-)
[10:30] <ladydoor> Websteria: it may have something to do with needing to load QT libraries in gnome or something
[10:30] <jhasse> IcemanV9, aren't you playing any games???
[10:30] <Websteria> I think I stayed away from it at first cause I had problems compiling the nvidia module for it
[10:30] <marcee> When my computer attempts to boot from the hard drive it tells me all the stuff about grub loading, then it gives me an error message, citing error number 15 , What is error number 15, and how do I fix it?  This isn't really urgent (it boots from the LiveCD fine), but I'd like to have a Hard Disk based OS. help please!!!!!!!!!
[10:30] <Websteria> But once the libs are loaded shouldn't it be faster?
[10:30] <Websteria> (and yes I know I'm nitpicking)
[10:31] <ladydoor> Websteria: *shrug* sorry
[10:31] <kmaynard> marcee, 1) chill.  2) google.
[10:31] <Websteria> I'll try aterm
[10:31] <IcemanV9> jhasse: not atm.
[10:31] <kmaynard> marcee, 3) be more specific
[10:31] <THX-1138> !grub
[10:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:31] <ephesius> Websteria: i just tried to install sp2 on my xp box this is the error message i got...The core system file(kernel) used to start this computer is not a Microsoft Windows File.
[10:32] <Flannel> kmaynard: error 15 is specific, stop being silly
[10:32] <Websteria> lol
[10:32] <Flannel> marcee: did you reformat/move harddrives around recently? or is this a fresh install?
[10:32] <THX-1138> Good Morning Flannel.
[10:32] <Flannel> THX-1138: Howdy
[10:32] <kmaynard> at what point does it crap out? do the drives mount? not silly
[10:32] <Websteria> actually I just loaded Konsole again and it takes 3 seconds
[10:32] <atlef> Error 15 means that grub is looking for a file and can't find it
[10:32] <marcee> Flannel, i just updated to dapper
[10:32] <Websteria> and firefox takes 6 seconds
[10:32] <IcemanV9> marcee: take a look at recovering part - it helped me twice when i lost grub last month
[10:33] <Flannel> kmaynard: error 15, grub error.  As in, Not getting to second stage.
[10:33] <Websteria> Is there a way to make the upgrades automatically use the 686 kernel?
[10:33] <marcee> how can i do it , i am newbi sorry
[10:33] <kmaynard> Flannel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43591  read the 2nd comment
[10:33] <Websteria> or do I have to manually set it each time?
[10:33] <Flannel> Websteria: what do you mean?
[10:33] <ladydoor> Websteria: if you're booted to it, it'll be used...
[10:33] <Websteria> Well, it always downloads the 386 kernel upgrades
[10:33] <Websteria> is that just because that's the kernel I'm using?
[10:34] <Flannel> Websteria: you want the "linux-image-686" meta package
[10:34] <ladydoor> Websteria: it's because you've got its meta-package involved...i think it's linux-386 or something
[10:34] <ephesius> RvGaTe, on the right hand side of Kino there is a couple buttons going down hit the capture one and it should bring up your camera
[10:34] <IcemanV9> sudo aptitude install linux-686
[10:34] <Flannel> !tell marcee about grub
[10:34] <Zaggynl> Ugh I posted about Filemon on the forum, one guy starts talking about fragmentation, another tells me to use top, I guess I'm not the only person that sucks at reading, grrr.
[10:34] <Flannel> marcee: that should work (what ubotu gave you)
[10:34] <Websteria> it says Linux-686 is already the newest version
[10:34] <Websteria> btw, ATerm starts instantly
[10:35] <ladydoor> Websteria: what's the output of uname -r?
[10:35] <Flannel> Websteria: then it's still downloading 386 because you still have the linux-386 package
[10:35] <ladydoor> Websteria: and yeah, aterm is gret
[10:35] <ladydoor> *great
[10:35] <RvGaTe> ephesius, over here it gives me: " WARNING: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1394"  in the statusbar
[10:35] <Websteria> Linux-ubuntu 2.6.17-10-386
[10:35] <Websteria> but it does show i686 linux
[10:35] <Websteria> so I need to remove the linux-386 package?
[10:35] <IcemanV9> oh. that is edgy. :)
[10:35] <Websteria> yeppers
[10:36] <IcemanV9> you're running 386 kernel atm.
[10:36] <Websteria> so when I go to remove linux-386 it says "...packages were automatically installed and are no longer required"
[10:36] <Websteria> so how do I get it to recognize the 686
[10:36] <kitche> umm reboot
[10:36] <Flannel> Websteria: actually, the -386 -686 stuff is deprecated, -generic is the new one, you'd have to ask in #ubuntu+1, I don't know how apt does it's vodoo with that package
[10:37] <kitche> Websteria: it won't use your new kernel until you reboot
[10:37] <katsura> can i install a i386.deb on an amd64 version of ubuntu?
[10:37] <THX-1138> Flannel - Okay, I need to learn from you. - It's official you are now my guru. - ;)
[10:37] <Megaqwerty> I forgot to tell k3b that it should make my CD a multi-session disk :/. As a result, I can't write to my CD-RW. Is there a way I can reformat it and still put new information on it, or did I just ruin a perfectly good RW?
[10:38] <peter77> When downloading files in firefox the speed just goes down and down
[10:38] <THX-1138> Flannel J/k
[10:38] <peter77> arr go up
[10:38] <brrrt> how can i install grub to my sata drive? grub-install /dev/sda   gives me: /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. ??
[10:39] <atlef> Megaqwerty : format it again
[10:39] <IcemanV9> Megaqwerty: your cdrw is still good. just erase it and you're good to go
[10:39] <Megaqwerty> How do I erase it?
[10:39] <IcemanV9> k3b will take care of erasing
[10:39] <Megaqwerty> It tells me that it is a "Read-Only Disk" and it can' t delete the files
[10:40] <Megaqwerty> oh, ok. Thanks, I'll try that
[10:42] <LjL> !away > tk
[10:42] <Justy-> Hello
[10:43] <bruenig> all the problems have been solved
[10:43] <bruenig> the room has become irrelevant
[10:43] <Flannel> sounds good to me
[10:43] <IcemanV9> ha. yep.
[10:44] <Megaqwerty> wow, this is defiantly a milestone in history
[10:44] <Justy-> I wish to install swiftfox, but I need to choose my proccessor. I dont know what it is .. But there is a sticker on my laptop: intel centrino
[10:44] <Megaqwerty> and there it goes, lol
[10:44] <pike_> Justy-: shh
[10:44] <MystaMax> I'm trying to install CPAN perl modules, but it can't find the PATH for make? Does that mean its not installed???
[10:44] <Flannel> Justy-: it's a 686
[10:44] <Justy-> http://getswiftfox.com/installer.htm which one should I select?
[10:45] <pike_> Justy-: the 386 binary would work if i understand you correctly
[10:45] <IcemanV9> i have centrino - it's a 686 (same as pentium M)
[10:45] <bruenig> Justy-, http://getswiftfox.com/builds/debian/1.5.0.7/swiftfox_1.5.0.7-2_pentium-m.deb
[10:45] <Justy-> IcemanV9: So you tell me that I can safely choose Pentium m
[10:45] <Justy-> bruenig: thanks =)
[10:46] <IcemanV9> use bruenig's suggestion (deb package is the best method to use)
[10:46] <Justy-> I haven't install flash player and java for firefox yet
[10:46] <Justy-> Can I install them after I install swiftfox ?
[10:46] <Justy-> Or should I install them now?
[10:46] <marcee> Flannel, when u lost ur grub u lost ur files?
[10:47] <pike_> how is that going to do any good if using a generic kernel?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Justy-: either way
[10:47] <bruenig> Justy-, once you do that, you are going to have to symbolicly link them, but you would have to do that regardless of when you install them
[10:47] <Flannel> marcee: no, you just need to reinstall grub
[10:47] <marcee> i mount my home now in the live cd
[10:47] <marcee> and i dont see all my files
[10:47] <marcee> :s
[10:47] <THX-1138> !flash > Justy
[10:47] <marcee> why?
[10:47] <IcemanV9> i sweared swiftfox uses ubuntu package, now they are using debian
[10:47] <Justy-> bruenig: sorry for my english but could you be please more clear
[10:47] <THX-1138> Justy mozcontrol
[10:48] <Flannel> IcemanV9: er... debian and ubuntu packaging is the same
[10:48] <IcemanV9> Flannel: i know, but the word has been changed, that's all. :)
[10:48] <Flannel> marcee: no idea, that isn't related to grub breaking.  Although, grub breaking and your files missing might have the same reason
[10:48] <bruenig> Justy-, get the plugins and swiftfox and then you are going to have to run this command to symbolicly link them, "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/* /usr/lib/swiftfox/plugins/"
[10:49] <RvGaTe> ephesius, welcome back :P
[10:49] <RvGaTe> ephesius, you got my last message ?
[10:49] <IcemanV9> bruenig: but swiftfox says "Existing Firefox plugins should work without needing to do anything special."
[10:50] <bruenig> IcemanV9, does it? I had to link them. Or maybe I am thinking of the search plugins. I remember having to link something
[10:50] <Justy-> IcemanV9: maybe Swiftfox creates that .so automaticaly?
[10:50] <gu014> does anyone use SageTV?
[10:50] <Twoods196> Can anyone help me with installing some module?
[10:50] <Twoods196> modules*
[10:50] <kmaynard> is it possible that grub is pointing to the wrong root? that happened to me recently after i upgraded kernels
[10:50] <IcemanV9> Justy-: i think you'll be fine .. if not, then use what bruenig just had said
[10:50] <gnomefreak> bruenig: you shouldnt have to link them unless you install firefox manully
[10:51] <kmaynard> marcee, did you upgrade your kernel recently?
[10:51] <bruenig> It must have been the search plugins, or it may have been when I installed it manually before they offered the deb
[10:51] <Twoods196> Can anyone tell me how to install Blowfish, Crypt and others?
[10:51] <Megaqwerty> Twoods196: possibly
[10:51] <habeeb> In bash, for i in * ; do echo ; done , would execute echo for as many files there are in the current situation. How can I make it execute echo i times?
[10:51] <Megaqwerty> Twoods196: You mean in a SLAX CD?
[10:52] <bruenig> !info cl-blowfish
[10:52] <ubotu> cl-blowfish: Common Lisp Blowfish encryption. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-2 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 104 kB
[10:52] <Justy-> thanks to all helped me
[10:52] <Twoods196> im trying to setup vhcs
[10:52] <Twoods196> bruce@ubuntu:/root/vhcs_tmp/install/vhcs2.4$ sudo /var/www/vhcs2/engine/setup/vhcs2-setup
[10:52] <Twoods196> Password:
[10:52] <Twoods196> CRITICAL ERROR: Module [MIME::Entity]  WAS NOT FOUND !
[10:52] <Twoods196> CRITICAL ERROR: Module [MIME::Parser]  WAS NOT FOUND !
[10:52] <marcee> kmaynard, yes i updated to dapper
[10:52] <Twoods196> CRITICAL ERROR: Module [Crypt::CBC]  WAS NOT FOUND !
[10:52] <Twoods196> CRITICAL ERROR: Module [Crypt::Blowfish]  WAS NOT FOUND !
[10:52] <Twoods196> CRITICAL ERROR: Module [Term::ReadPassword]  WAS NOT FOUND !
[10:52] <Twoods196> Modules [MIME::Entity, MIME::Parser, Crypt::CBC, Crypt::Blowfish, Term::ReadPassword]  WAS NOT FOUND in your system...
[10:52] <pike_> habeeb: like for i in `seq 1 4`; do echo $i or something?
[10:52] <Twoods196> and get that on install
[10:52] <gnomefreak> Twoods196: use pastebin
[10:52] <bruenig> !paste
[10:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:52] <Megaqwerty> !paste
[10:52] <kmaynard> marcee, do you have a knoppix cd handy?
[10:52] <Twoods196> k
[10:52] <marcee> i am in my ubuntu live cd
[10:52] <marcee> kmaynard,
[10:52] <habeeb> pike_: whats 'seq 1 4' ?
[10:52] <kmaynard> knoppix might be better
[10:53] <bruenig> live cd = live cd
[10:53] <Justy-> !paste > Twoods196
[10:53] <kmaynard> can you see your hd in ubuntu livecd?
[10:53] <habeeb> pike_: I just want to enter an integer (lets say 666) and get 666 echos.
[10:53] <pike_> habeeb: it would basical count and do it 4 times
[10:53] <SB|nblracer> where can i get the ghome help file for disks-admin
[10:53] <Twoods196> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26669/
[10:53] <Twoods196> there it is
[10:53] <habeeb> pike_:  for i in 'seq 1 4' ;  do echo ; done , it echoed only once.
[10:54] <habeeb> try it
[10:54] <bruenig> SB|nblracer, here perhaps, what is the question?
[10:54] <SB|nblracer> need help removing an old partion
[10:54] <Megaqwerty> hmm... Twoods196: did you try to add them yourself?
[10:54] <SB|nblracer> hdb1 and hdb5
[10:54] <pike_> habeeb: using a standard keyboard just to left of the 1 key looks like a quote but its used to tell the shell to execute whatevers inside
[10:55] <THX-1138> I have trouble with the mount command using the live CD. Security? or  My inexperience?
[10:55] <habeeb> ~ ?
[10:55] <habeeb> `
[10:55] <habeeb> aw
[10:55] <habeeb> yes.
[10:55] <Twoods196> Megaqwerty, i tried sudo apt-get libcrypt
[10:55] <Twoods196> with no luck
[10:55] <habeeb> Thank you pike_
[10:55] <Majax> Hi everybody. I have a screen resolution problem. When I modify xorg.conf to add resolutions I don't see them in the System>Preference>Screen Resolution utility.
[10:55] <Majax> Does anyone knows how I can change these resolutions ?
[10:55] <pike_> habeeb: like if i have a bunch of mulitpart files i can do for i in `ls`; do echo $i >> file; done or whatever
[10:55] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a working GUI for lsof
[10:55] <pike_> habeeb: np
[10:56] <habeeb> pike_: lets pass it to the next level :P. Lets say I want to open 4 gnome-terminals. for i in 'seq 1 4' ; do gnome-terminal ; done. Can I keep the terminals open, because they close when the script ends.
[10:56] <Majax> Does anyone knows how I can change the possible resolutions of the screen ?
[10:56] <Megaqwerty> Twoods196: while I'm not familiar with that particular package, try using Synaptic Package Manager to get whatever you are trying to get, seeing as it does pretty much all the work for you
[10:57] <Flannel> Majax: did you restart X after editing?
[10:57] <Majax> yes
[10:57] <Twoods196> k, will look into it
[10:57] <Twoods196> thnx
[10:57] <Megaqwerty> you're welcome
[10:57] <THX-1138> Majax - Check out the refrsh rates for your monitor. else try ubotu !disply or if using an nvidia card try nvidia-xconfig or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:57] <THX-1138> s/!disply/display/g
[10:57] <phaedrus_> damn...what is that file i put things like eterm &    conky &    so they start automatically  ?
[10:58] <pike_> habeeb: maybe you could do nohup xterm so that it wont close im not sure
[10:58] <RvGaTe> ephesius, you still there ?
[10:58] <Majax> I have an ATI radeon x600
[10:58] <habeeb> pike_: lemme try it.
[10:58] <ReinH> This is hilarious
[10:58] <MystaMax> Majax, could you post your xorg.conf file to pastebin/
[10:58] <ReinH> I just bought a 900 page Ubuntu book and the one chapter that I need the most right now was left out of the book... I need pages 453-490 and the book is missing pages 451-498
[10:59] <Hammad> how do i run a "buildset script"
[10:59] <MystaMax> ReinH, which book is that?
[10:59] <Zaggynl> Anyone familiar with the application called 'Fam' ?
[10:59] <Hammad> im hella confused
[10:59] <ReinH> I'm going to ream the publisher a new one, maybe get some free books out of the deal if I'm loud and annoying enough
[10:59] <ReinH> MystaMax: Ubuntu Unleashed
[10:59] <ReinH> I'd suggest you all not buy it until this is resolved ;)
[10:59] <Twoods196> megawerty, the synaptic is 160 seperate files...is there not away to get them all at once?
[10:59] <Majax> MystaMax: what is pastebin/ ?
[10:59] <THX-1138> ReinH - That must of been the chapters on "Secret Invocation Commands" yep same here.
[10:59] <Hammad> ANYONE KNOW!? how to run buildset script
[10:59] <Hammad> like i downloaded it
[10:59] <MystaMax> !pastebin
[10:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:59] <Hammad> but when i dbl click nothing happens
[10:59] <GreenCult> hi all.. how to config my source-list?? in debian i user apt-get.. what can i do in Ubuntu dapper??
[11:00] <ReinH> THX-1138: It was the chapter on APACHE for chrissakes
[11:00] <Justy-> !pastebin > Majax
[11:00] <ReinH> not like anyone would want to read that one!
[11:00] <Hammad> anyone?
[11:00] <Hammad> know buildset script?
[11:00] <MystaMax> ReinH, Ah its a informative book, but I dont buy books, b/c of Safari books online
[11:00] <Ramunas> GreenCult: edit /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:00] <Hammad> i need to run it but when i dbl clikc it othing happens
[11:00] <MystaMax> I'm trying to install CPAN perl modules, but it can't find the PATH for make? Does that mean its not installed???
[11:00] <ladydoor> !repeat
[11:00] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:00] <ReinH> MystaMax: I like having a nice thick reference in hard copy
[11:00] <kitche> Hammad: well what does it do exactly?
[11:00] <THX-1138> ReinH - Okay. Did you check the forums?
[11:00] <Hammad> its for icons
[11:01] <Hammad> im following a guide
[11:01] <kitche> MystaMax; install build-esstenial
[11:01] <ReinH> THX-1138: wasn't aware they had forums
[11:01] <Hammad> to make my linux look like os x
[11:01] <ReinH> THX-1138: will check now
[11:01] <Megaqwerty> Twoods196: could you restate your question?
[11:01] <THX-1138> !apache
[11:01] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[11:01] <Justy-> GreenCult: i think it is in /etc/apt so you should do: for read only gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , for write and read sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:01] <ReinH> THX-1138: ah, the apache forums? No, I haven't checked there... why?
[11:01] <Hammad> k its for icons im following a guide to make my linux look like mac
[11:01] <Twoods196> the synaptic is showing 160 files...do i have download ech individual one?
[11:02] <Majax> MystaMax: pasted !
[11:02] <MystaMax> Majax, we need a link
[11:02] <Megaqwerty> Twoods196: what are you trying to get?
[11:02] <Megaqwerty> Twoods196: I'll look in synaptic and try to see what you mean
[11:02] <Majax> MystaMax: link to what ?
[11:02] <Majax> ok
[11:02] <Trae> ugh
[11:02] <Majax> give me a sec
[11:02] <MystaMax> Majax, to your paste bin
[11:02] <THX-1138> ReinH - I'm sorry.
[11:02] <Web> Newb Question: Going to use Ubuntu for simple file servver. What should I format  the new partitions as?
[11:03] <Twoods196> Megawerty, nevermind i found how to use apt-get to install synaptic
[11:03] <Hammad> can someone help me; im trying to run a buildset script i downloaded its for icons but when i dbl click it nothing happens
[11:03] <THX-1138> Web Ext3  ext2 -j  journaling
[11:03] <Shadowpillar> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=14-122-008
[11:03] <Majax> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26670/plain/
[11:03] <Megaqwerty> oh, ok. Sorry, I thought you were using Dapper Drake
[11:04] <habeeb> $ gnome-terminal -e echo "sd"
[11:04] <habeeb> Invalid argument: "sd"
[11:04] <ReinH> ReinH: I'm sending the publisher a rather restrained letter of protest, mentioning that I have a few contacts in their industry who would be interested to know that SAMS has an excellent customer loyalty program ;)
[11:04] <habeeb> How can I fix this error? $ gnome-terminal -e echo "sd"
[11:04] <habeeb> Invalid argument: "sd"
[11:04] <ReinH> woops, meant for THX-1138 lol
[11:04] <Hammad> Run the buildset script
[11:04] <Hammad> 	Select your custom kmenu icon (default is always a good choice)
[11:04] <Hammad> 	Wait for the icons to convert
[11:04] <Hammad> 	Wait for the tar.gz or tar.bz2 to build
[11:04] <Hammad> 	Install using kcontrol
[11:04] <habeeb> Dont tell me to remove the quotes, please.
[11:04] <Hammad> i cant run my buildset script
[11:04] <Hammad> anyone know how?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> Hammad: can you please use pastebin to paste
[11:05] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[11:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:05] <Hammad> okay thanks
[11:05] <Hammad> !pastebin
[11:05] <Hammad> ?
[11:05] <bluefox83> what is that program you can launch things with that gives you debugging info?
[11:05] <Hammad> can someone tell me an irc channel to go to to get help...
[11:06] <bluefox83> Hammad, help for what?
[11:06] <Megaqwerty> Hammand: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste your error in there
[11:06] <kitche> bluefox83: you mean for programs it's gdm
[11:06] <Megaqwerty> then give us the url
[11:06] <MystaMax> thanks kitche that did it!
[11:06] <Megaqwerty> That is what he meant
[11:06] <Hammad> i need to run the builset script
[11:06] <kitche> opps gdb
[11:06] <davvs> i have a shellscript i always run as root when i boot, how do i do to make it automatically run?
[11:06] <Hammad> i was following a guide
[11:06] <kitche> bluefox83: gdb I meant
[11:06] <Hammad> to make my linux
[11:06] <Hammad> look like mac osx
[11:06] <Flannel> !enter
[11:06] <bluefox83> kitche, ok, thanks
[11:06] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:06] <Hammad> and i needed to download icons
[11:06] <pike_> habeeb: maybe echo\ "sd" to denote a space but still one thing
[11:07] <MystaMax> ubotu tell MystaMax about pastebin
[11:07] <Hammad> how do i msg someone specifically like in red or w/e
[11:07] <THX-1138> CTRL+K <code>
[11:07] <Justy-> Hammad: do yo mean like that i do know?
[11:07] <Flannel> Hammad: put their name at the front of the line, most clients will highlight it
[11:07] <Lattyware> #sjnetworks
[11:07] <kitche> davvs: add it to the init scripts not sure which script is local for ubuntu though
[11:07] <Megaqwerty> davvs: I had the same problem myself, and never figured out how to do it, so I merely made a button on the top (assuming ur in gnome) that did it for me
[11:07] <Lattyware> whoops
[11:08] <THX-1138> Hammad - this channel only accepts bold or un derline.
[11:08] <Hammad> Justy- ya
[11:08] <Hammad> no like u guys
[11:08] <Hammad> are messeging me
[11:08] <Hammad> and it goes red
[11:08] <Majax> MystaMax: did you recieved the pastebin link ? (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26670/plain/)
[11:08] <SuperMiguel> how can i manage my files as root on a graphical interface?
[11:08] <Megaqwerty> Hammand: say our names with a colon in the beginning
[11:08] <Flannel> Hammad: put their name at the front of the line, most clients will highlight it, yours makes it red, apparently.
[11:08] <Hammad> bluffox83 - its for icons
[11:08] <Justy-> now you messaged me "Hammad: Justy- ya" and it is red .. =)
[11:08] <Flannel> SuperMiguel: gksudo nautilus  (if you didn't already know, be careful)
[11:08] <Web>  THX-1138, thnx for reply. So EXT 2 works? I am going to be using it as a smaba share
[11:08] <Megaqwerty> well, you don't need the colon
[11:08] <davvs> Megaqwerty, a button on the top?
[11:08] <Hammad> bluefox83 - its for icons
[11:08] <Hammad> oh cool
[11:08] <Hammad> k thanks
[11:08] <Justy-> Hammad: because you put my nick in your message "Justy-"
[11:09] <Megaqwerty> davvs: yeah, here is how you do it:
[11:09] <avrFreak> Greets...will ubuntu run corretly on a 166 Mhz Pentiuym MMX weitrh 128 MB of RAM and a 3 GB HDD?  i canot get it to install and run, completley...X won;t install and it will not support netowrking at all
[11:09] <Hammad> okay now can someone help me what or how to run this buildscript
[11:09] <Hammad> i downloaded it alrdy
[11:09] <Hammad> and unrar it
[11:09] <Majax> MystaMax: r u still there ?
[11:09] <ixian_> how can i create a launcher for this command? ( WINEDEBUG="fixme-all" wine C:/Program\ Files/Steam/Steam.exe ) it works fine in terminal, but when I try to make it a launcher on my desktop, it gives an error saying that WINEDEBUG is not a file or folder. Help?
[11:09] <Megaqwerty> right-click on the bar (where Fireforx, and Evolution are) and click on add to panel
[11:09] <habeeb> pike_: any ideas why with "nohup gnome-terminal -e echo" the terminal still terminates after the echo command?
[11:09] <Hammad> i dbl click buildset but nothing happens
[11:09] <bluefox83> Hammad, read the README file
[11:09] <MystaMax> Majax, Oh I'm looking at it now, my bad. we've got the same monitor, lol
[11:09] <Megaqwerty> davvs: then click custom application launcher
[11:09] <Zaggynl> WTB: GUI for lsof
[11:09] <Web> what should I set my access path to when I set up a new partition? for a file share.
[11:09] <shwag> is there an RSS feed I can read that tells me what the daily updates are which the tray icon says I need to install are?
[11:09] <THX-1138> Web - Ext3 is Ext2 plus journaling - select ext3 you should be fine. - don't opt for rieser unless you are a *nix guru.
[11:09] <Hammad> bluefox83 - i did lol the first step is run the builscript
[11:09] <Majax> MystaMax: hehe cool
[11:10] <Websteria> ok you guys were right. After switching to the 686 kernel those windows open in less than 1 second
[11:10] <Hammad> bluefox83 - i dont even know how to do that, when i dbl click it does nothing
[11:10] <Megaqwerty> davvs: then put your script's command in the "command" box
[11:10] <bluefox83> Hammad, read more of the files then... but chances are you need to do it in a terminal
[11:10] <Flannel> shwag: clicking on the icon will tell you, and offer to upgrade them for you
[11:10] <Twoods196> Megawerty, im using Ubuntu Server....so will that syanaptic still work?
[11:10] <davvs> thanks, but if i do, it wont run as root?
[11:10] <davvs> MeGaQuArK_,
[11:10] <davvs> Megaqwerty,
[11:10] <Flannel> Twoods196: You don't use synaptic, you'll use apt-get or aptitude
[11:10] <SuperMiguel> it was nk nautilios?
[11:11] <badkitty> Can someone help me with my wireless connection. I have tried a TOn of things and cannot get it to work
[11:11] <SuperMiguel> nksudo nautilius?
[11:11] <Hammad> bluefox83 - um k like Konsole? what do i type to get to that file from terminal
[11:11] <Flannel> SuperMiguel: gksudo nautilus
[11:11] <shwag> Flannel: it tells me what the files are, but it doesn't tell me what changed and why it needs to be upgraded.
[11:11] <avrFreak> click this, click that, what are we, a naunch pof frigging MAC enthiusiasts?????
[11:11] <Twoods196> Flannel, im trying to install some modules
[11:11] <Megaqwerty> davvs: yeah, I'm not totally sure how that would be done.
[11:11] <Twoods196> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26669/
[11:11] <Twoods196> dont know how to install them
[11:11] <davvs> Megaqwerty,  ok, thanks anyway
[11:11] <Websteria> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26669/
[11:11] <Megaqwerty> davvs you would have to use sudo, but I don't know what you would do after that to give ur password
[11:11] <Web> thnx again  THX-1138
[11:11] <Flannel> shwag: update-manager will give you descriptions, maybe you have to configure it to do so, I don't remember.
[11:12] <Megaqwerty> davvs: sorry
[11:12] <bluefox83> Hammad, you need to go to the ubuntu beginners page and read up...you need to learn what you are doing before changing your system
[11:12] <habeeb> pike_: any ideas why with "nohup gnome-terminal -e echo" the terminal still terminates after the echo command?
[11:12] <pike_> habeeb: thats strange its not what xterm does. not sure
[11:12] <MystaMax> Majax, hmm syntax looks fine, I'm going to alter mine and restart, and see what happens, brb
[11:12] <habeeb> OOps sorry.
[11:12] <shwag> Flannel: it has a general description of the app, but not of the changelog.
[11:12] <bluefox83> Hammad, but you really should not need to run any build scripts to install icons..
[11:12] <Websteria> How many partitions do most of you have? Do you have one for boot, one for usr, or do most of you just have the one partition per drive?
[11:12] <Majax> MystaMax: thx
[11:12] <Flannel> shwag: in update-manager? yes it does.  Let me boot my GUI and poke around
[11:13] <bluefox83> Websteria, you only need swap and / but you can have as many as you want
[11:13] <ixian_> how can i create a launcher for this command? ( WINEDEBUG="fixme-all" wine C:/Program\ Files/Steam/Steam.exe ) it works fine in terminal, but when I try to make it a launcher on my desktop, it gives an error saying that WINEDEBUG is not a file or folder. Help?
[11:13] <pike_> habeeb: in xterm i can xterm -e "echo test; sleep 3" and it will be open for 3 seconds or i can pipe it to something. gnome-terminal is just strange i guess :)
[11:13] <Websteria> yeah, I was just wondering how many of you had more than just / and swap
[11:13] <Websteria> and for what purpose
[11:13] <tag> anyone know of a bluetooth USB device that works properly in ubuntu?
[11:13] <tag> I've tried three now
[11:13] <kitche> ixian_: you need to make a script for it
[11:13] <bluefox83> ixian_, you are trying to create a bash script..go find a howto
[11:13] <Flannel> shwag: you need to view the details
[11:13] <avrFreak> Greets...will ubuntu run corretly on a 166 Mhz Pentiuym MMX weitrh 128 MB of RAM and a 3 GB HDD?  i canot get it to install and run, completley...X won;t install and it will not support netowrking at all
[11:13] <bluefox83> tag, all you need are the drivers, they should all work
[11:13] <tag> most of them cannot auth
[11:13] <Megaqwerty> ixian_: look at the instructions I just gave davvs, it might work for you
[11:14] <crweb> imbrandon: yo, help
[11:14] <kmaynard> avrFreak, you'll be lucky to make that one a thin client
[11:14] <tag> most them seem to only kind of work
[11:14] <Twoods196> anyone?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26669/
[11:14] <tag> like I can scan, I can connect, but I cannot pair...etc.
[11:14] <Flannel> avrFreak: it should run.  You might consider xubuntu though.  However, you'll need to use the alternate CD to install it, not the Desktop one
[11:14] <habeeb> pike_: can it be done for an infinite time? without the sleep?
[11:14] <tag> or I can pair, but I cannot issue commands
[11:14] <crweb> I need to pass a config option to a src package and rebuild, anyone?
[11:15] <vaksas> hello :) what's the best app to view dvds?
[11:15] <LjL> !best
[11:15] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:15] <LjL> !dvd
[11:15] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:15] <marcee> i got a stange problem , i mounted my home in  my live cd session where i am now , and i cant see a lot of folders , but when i make a ls the terminal say that the folders are there
[11:15] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a GUI for lsof?
[11:15] <marcee> whay this?
[11:15] <pike_> habeeb: it can but i cant remember offhand how i would do that in a script
[11:15] <Twoods196> anyone know how to install these modules...need em bad.....  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26669/
[11:16] <avrFreak> what id xubuntu?
[11:16] <Flannel> avrFreak: it's ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome, more lightweight.
[11:16] <LjL> !xubuntu
[11:16] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:16] <habeeb> pike_: I see. The problem with xterm is that if I use it in a for loop in bash, the xterm pops when the previous one finishes.
[11:16] <habeeb> I want them all together!
[11:16] <jrib> crweb: just edit debian/rules , sometimes you can use DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS, but I'm not sure exactly how that works
[11:16] <tag> so when I run hcitool cc <whatever> that pretty much always works, and then when I do hcitool auth <address> it gets an I/O error or a timeout
[11:16] <kmaynard> marcee, really, you'll be better off with knoppix. it's made for system rescue. i cant believe you're still playing with this
[11:16] <tag> ?
[11:16] <avrFreak> Zaggynl: why not just get a MAC?
[11:16] <Zaggynl> :/
[11:17] <marcee> kmaynard, i dont have knoppix cd here
[11:17] <crweb> jrib: i'm having a hard time finding any details at all on deb-src.  do you have any links?
[11:17] <Flannel> !tell marcee about grub
[11:17] <Zaggynl> why get a Mac?
[11:17] <Flannel> marcee: read that, the first link, it'll explain how to fix grub
[11:17] <pike_> habeeb: i had the same problem once i couldnt do for i in `seq 1 3`; do xterm&;done  obviously never did get it
[11:17] <jrib> crweb: search the debian-administration site.  They have a couple of articles on rebuilding
[11:17] <avrFreak> Asa I say, i canot get netoewrkgin to work under Ubuntu on this notebook )-:
[11:17] <marcee> ok , but i want mount my files here and i cant
[11:17] <marcee> only a few
[11:17] <marcee> its starnge
[11:17] <LjL> avrFreak: why not stop saying nonsense about macs?
[11:18] <kmaynard> what drive are you mounting, hda?
[11:18] <marcee> hda1
[11:18] <habeeb> pike_: it doesnt work.
[11:18] <pike_> habeeb: yeah
[11:18] <habeeb> pike_: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
[11:18] <habeeb> Annoying :[
[11:18] <avrFreak> Zaggnyl: MACs offer GUIs for everythingm they'll hodll yoiur hadn and wipe your arse for you when you're finished, thsat seems to be what you're looking for
[11:18] <kmaynard> mkdir /mnt/hda1   mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[11:18] <Flannel> marcee: why don't you just fix grub and boot normally?
[11:18] <pike_> habeeb: if you figure it out let me know :)
[11:18] <THX-1138> LjL - I have tried xubuntu on similar hardware. - it is painfully slow. - Puppylinux runs as root. but works. though a bit scarey.
[11:18] <marcee> ok i will do it
[11:18] <habeeb> pike_: I will.
[11:18] <kmaynard> cd /mnt/hda1/boot/grub
[11:18] <marcee> i dont speak very well english Flannel  the manual is not very clear tom e
[11:19] <marcee> buit i will try
[11:19] <marcee> thanks
[11:19] <Websteria> grrr.. must've been time for my weekly windows machine lockup
[11:19] <LjL> THX-1138: alright, i wouldn't try any flavor of Ubuntu (except perhaps server) on such a machine, personally
[11:19] <marcee> and in spanish channel noone know with certain the problem
[11:19] <gu014> THX-1138: why scary?
[11:19] <Flannel> marcee: you want to use the "Desktop CD, overwriting the MBR" instructions, if you're using the first link
[11:19] <avrFreak> marcee: your zenglish looks pretty good to me
[11:19] <marcee> thanks
[11:20] <Megaqwerty> marcee: go to www.imtranslator.net it's pretty much cutting and pasting, and it will translate for you
[11:20] <screechingcat> anyone here using Xen ro un Windows Xp ?
[11:20] <THX-1138> gu014 - it runs as root. - i am not clear if setting up seperate user accts and turning off the root acct is enough to secure it.
[11:20] <Websteria> is there a good ncurses bittorrent client?
[11:20] <Flannel> Websteria: btdownloadcurses
[11:20] <LjL> Websteria: bittornado
[11:20] <Websteria> I just hate having to run Azureus
[11:20] <Websteria> It's so resource heavy
[11:21] <Websteria> although I do like all ze pretty pictures
[11:21] <gu014> THX-1138: i thought you meant the GUI..lol  which, IMHO, is indeed.
[11:21] <Websteria> yeah, the GUI
[11:21] <screechingcat> Websteria, run utorrent with wine or ktorrent
[11:21] <avrFreak> thius chsnnel is way too busy for me, i can;t keep up
[11:21] <Websteria> yeah, I could do that, it just feels... wrong to run it under linux. :-)
[11:21] <Websteria> I do love uTorrent though.
[11:21] <Justy-> Hello:
[11:21] <Justy-> How can I install Java for Swiftfox ?
[11:21] <Web> 1 more question all, my access point for my partition, is that where it will be mounted?  Sorry total newb
[11:22] <Justy-> !java
[11:22] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:22] <screechingcat> Websteria, if it hurts so much just run ktorrent. it's pretty much the same
[11:22] <Justy-> ubotu: thanks for help =)
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks for help =) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <LjL> !msg the bot
[11:22] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[11:22] <crweb> jrib: i seem to be missing debuild,  where dos that come from?
[11:22] <Websteria> what were those ncurses clients again
[11:22] <Flannel> Websteria: btdownloadcurses is already installed
[11:22] <LjL> Websteria: apt-cache show bittornado
[11:23] <kitche> Websteria: there is rtorrent
[11:23] <THX-1138> WEB - 2 partitions /  /swap is needed
[11:23] <avrFreak> sorry, i am to mcuh of an Olde Pharet to keep uyp with this chanel
[11:23] <Gilnim> what torrent program is one of the best at the moment?
[11:23] <scramblin_free> you scared him away
[11:23] <Flannel> !best
[11:23] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:24] <Gilnim> Flannel: I said "on of"!
[11:24] <screechingcat> Gilnim utorrent + wine or azureus or ktorrent or rtorrent or bittornado are the choices. take your pick
[11:24] <Flannel> Gilnim: I like btdownloadcurses, personally.  That's my best.
[11:25] <Web> THX, when I actualy format them from Ubunto it asks me what access path, by default it's /boot
[11:25] <screechingcat> Flannel, what is ncurses ?
[11:25] <kitche> !ncurses
[11:26] <Gilnim> I need a torrent program that's able to download several torrents at the same time
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <THX-1138> Web - I think i missed what you are trying to do. can you give a little more info?
[11:26] <Flannel> screechingcat: ncurses is a terminal GUI-sort of thing.  well, ncurses is a terminal interface library, but a good deal of ncurses things are GUI-sorts of things in the terminal
[11:26] <Gilnim> !torrent
[11:26] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[11:26] <screechingcat> Flannel, like aptitude ?
[11:26] <Justy-> !p2p
[11:26] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[11:26] <Flannel> Gilnim: btlaunchmany[tab] [tab]  (there are a few frontends), those are already installed
[11:26] <Flannel> screechingcat: right, like aptitude
[11:26] <raphael_> hi all! I have a weird problem; I have installed the newest ubuntu version on my laptop. I installed also the fglrx driver because i have an x700 graphic card and I installed XGL. My Problem: When i play a Video with vlc,xine or mplayer, the video isn`t 100% fluent. This is only when my laptop is connected to AC. When I unplug the cable, it runs smoothly! I dont know what this could be.. I need help
[11:27] <Web> sure, I am just trying to put a couple hard drives into a ubuntu machine to share them across a network. I want to format these drives and share em using samba.
[11:27] <rgg> hey,can someone help me with armagetron ad?
[11:27] <THX-1138>     !<item_ubotu_knows>   >   <nick_of_person_who_needs_information>
[11:27] <rgg> i downloaded a "bizarre" package with the extension ".package" (creative,isn't it? :P)
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about item_ubotu_knows>   >   <nick_of_person_who_needs_information - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <raphael_> i wonder if so could help me!
[11:28] <kitche> rgg: yeah it's for Autopackage
[11:28] <screechingcat> rgg its the easiset install ever
[11:28] <rgg> oh,how do i install it?
[11:29] <screechingcat> rgg, just install the autopackage deb from the autopackages site. and then give execute permisisions to the file and double click it
[11:29] <LjL> rgg: you said it's armagetron you want to install? if so why not just get it from the repos?
[11:29] <rgg> LjL: on the repos there is "armagetron".terrible graphics,gameplay etc.
[11:29] <rgg> i'm trying to install armagetron ad.little difference,but a totally different game
[11:29] <kitche> LjL: he's installing armagetron advance
[11:30] <Code-E> How do I install wine on x64 ubuntu?
[11:30] <LjL> ah. well keep in mind that autopackages are not necessarily safe.
[11:30] <screechingcat> rgg, autopackage.org
[11:30] <kitche> rgg: well it's the same game same developers and other thing just updated
[11:30] <rgg> kitche: i know,but it looks and feels totally different
[11:30] <rgg> screechingcat: you answered the question in my mind :)
[11:31] <screechingcat> rgg, my mind reading powers work thru the internet. this is so cool !!
[11:31] <ixian_> is there a way to force brightness higher in a fullscreen application? i am running half life using wine, and it's too dark.
[11:31] <dave_> I recieved an error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext
[11:32] <dave_> Does anyone know what package that refers to
[11:32] <screechingcat> ixian_, cant u do that with your monitor ?
[11:32] <Web> THX  I am just trying to put a couple hard drives into a ubuntu machine to share them across a network. I want to format these drives and share em using samba. So just wondering what Access path I should use. /boot /home /root or something diffirent?
[11:32] <LjL> ixian_: brightness is a monitor thing... unless you mean gamma
[11:32] <kitche> dave_: it's libxext
[11:32] <ixian_> screechingcat: yeah, but then id have to adjust it when i quit the game
[11:32] <screechingcat> ixian_, i have buttons for that on the front of my monitor
[11:32] <rgg> screechingcat: the technology is really getting amazing.
[11:32] <ixian_> i mean a software way, not the buttons on my monitor
[11:32] <ixian_> in windows, the ati drivers provide a way to up the brightness
[11:32] <Websteria> Web: I put mine under /Music and /Videos
[11:32] <ixian_> or gamma.. whatever
[11:33] <ixian_> just wondering if you can do that in linux/ubuntu
[11:33] <Justy-> ixian_: they are so diffrent
[11:33] <screechingcat> rgg, yeah. i just installed warzone2100 the otherday with an autopackage. pretty impressive.
[11:33] <rgg> screechingcat: i was talking about mind-reading :P
[11:33] <screechingcat> rgg, there's a gtk and kde frontend too
[11:33] <Web> hehe that would prolly require me to know how to create an access path
[11:33] <raphael_> hi all! I have a weird problem; I have installed the newest ubuntu version on my laptop. I installed also the fglrx driver because i have an x700 graphic card and I installed XGL. My Problem: When i play a Video with vlc,xine or mplayer, the video isn`t 100% fluent. This is only when my laptop is connected to AC. When I unplug the AC-cable, it runs smoothly! Please help me!
[11:33] <rgg> through the internet.
[11:33] <Web> sounds like I am way too newb and need to do some reading
[11:33] <Websteria> Web: It's really not that hard
[11:33] <Web> ok thnx
[11:33] <screechingcat> rgg, oh (foot-in-mouth) that aint technology. thats a talent boy.
[11:33] <Websteria> First you need to mount the drives
[11:33] <Web> I will give it a hot
[11:34] <Websteria> before you can samba share them
[11:34] <Web> yeah
[11:34] <Websteria> once you have mounted them
[11:34] <rgg> screechingcat: not on the internet.
[11:34] <LjL> ixian_, my KDE has gamma controls, and perhaps you can find a similar control applet in Gnome... but i don't think it can be set on a per-program level with such applets, so you'd still have to change it manually every time
[11:34] <Websteria> then you can use the samba.conf examples to make them accessible
[11:34] <rgg> screechingcat: anyway,my mind is not that strong,where do i have to "go" in autopackage.org?
[11:34] <Websteria> just make sure you read a decent howto on Samba
[11:34] <Websteria> it can be a little bit tricky
[11:34] <andreasdk> Is it possible to install a local wiki on Ubuntu?
[11:34] <Web> kk thnx for the help all
[11:34] <raphael_> Does no answer mean that nobody has an idea?
[11:34] <Web> have a good weekend
[11:34] <LjL> ixian_: however, there is the "xgamma" command that allows you to set gamma from the command line.
[11:35] <LjL> ixian_: you could just write a script that wraps your game around this command
[11:35] <ixian_> hm  iguess
[11:35] <screechingcat> rgg, yeah it took me about half an hour to figure out the download location too. but i have to go study now, so i cant help you. just look in that site. it will be somewhere in "all packages" or something like that.
[11:35] <ixian_> i probably wouldnt know how to do that :P
[11:35] <rgg> screechingcat: ok.
[11:36] <rgg> screechingcat: i'm there for 5 minutes already,only 25 to go :P
[11:36] <screechingcat> rgg, may be the force be with you my son
[11:36] <raphael_> i think i am talking to the wall :(
[11:37] <raphael_> does really nobody has an idea?
[11:37] <screechingcat> patience raphael_ i had to talk to the wall everyday for a week to get my problem fixed
[11:37] <LjL> ixian_: well, if your gamma now is set to 1 (the default), just type, say, "xgamma -gamma 1.5 ; command-that-starts-your-game ; xgamma -gamma 1.0"
[11:37] <screechingcat> raphael_, anyways, try #ubuntu-xgl
[11:38] <LjL> ixian_: you could just put that line into a file, make that file executable, and you have a script
[11:38] <rgg> can anyone else help me out in autopackage.org?
[11:38] <raphael_> okm thanks
[11:38] <Justy-> raphael_: If you pay more attention on punctuation and caps, more people will read your question, because it is going to be more readable.
[11:38] <ixian_> LjL: how would i return the gamma to 1.0 when the game quits though?
[11:38] <ixian_> i mean automatically.. if thats possible
[11:38] <screechingcat> ixian_, it will
[11:39] <LjL> Justy-: uhm, what was so wrong with his punctuation?
[11:39] <LjL> ixian_: err, that's what the last part of the command does
[11:39] <Justy-> LjL: it is not punctuation it is about being readable in this situation
[11:39] <Code-E> How do I install wine on x64 ubuntu?
[11:39] <ixian_> oh so it waits until the program is closed until it executes the last command?
[11:40] <screechingcat> Code-E, is Ubuntu really usable on x64 ?
[11:40] <Code-E> screechingcat um yes.. I have Ubuntu x64 edition
[11:40] <LjL> ixian_: unless the program forks into the background, yeah
[11:40] <screechingcat> Code-E, there's a problem with almost every single app
[11:40] <Justy-> LjL: nope sorry it is because that there are so many terms in it
[11:40] <patientfox> hey.. does anyone here know the actual name of the package that contains the "add/remove programs" utility?
[11:40] <Code-E> screetchingcat: !????!??!
[11:41] <screechingcat> Code-E, flash, wine
[11:41] <LjL> Justy-: uh, well, detailed questions are usually *welcome* though...
[11:41] <Code-E> wine wont install?
[11:41] <LjL> raphael_: all i can tell you is, XGL is experimental, you should expect to have problems and glitches. and the people on #ubuntu-xgl may know better about it
[11:41] <rgg> screechingcat: hahahahaha i'm so stupid,autopackage installs itself
[11:41] <rgg> or at least the website says so.
[11:42] <LjL> patientfox: Synaptic i guess
[11:42] <ixian_> LjL: ok i see.. thanks a lot
[11:42] <screechingcat> Code-E, well since its a package thats in the repos and is just a click away and you are asking here, i figured it dint work
[11:42] <Code-E> its not in the repos
[11:42] <screechingcat> rgg, yeah thats why its called "AUTO"package
[11:43] <rgg> screechingcat: well,a lot of things called auto need a download.
[11:43] <rgg> like the terrible automatix.
[11:43] <rgg> autopackage installs itself when you install a package.
[11:43] <screechingcat> Code-E, oh yeah. i forgot, i use edited repos. use ubuntu-linux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:43] <screechingcat> rgg, really ?
[11:44] <kmaynard> ttg, holla
[11:44] <Justy-> question: Can anybody please tell me where is the Firefox installition directory?
[11:44] <screechingcat> rgg, that dint work for me. i downloaded the deb, installed it and then installed my package
[11:44] <UnIData> 61.0 when ?
[11:44] <UnIData> 6.10
[11:44] <rgg> screechingcat: well,at leats that's what the website said
[11:44] <screechingcat> 6.10 oct 29 i think
[11:44] <gnomefreak> UnIData: 26th of oct
[11:45] <atlef> bye
[11:45] <screechingcat> rgg, try it
[11:45] <UnIData> quit
[11:45] <patientfox> whats the name of the package that has all of the developer tools?
[11:45] <rgg> screechingcat: yeah,it doesn't seem to work,i got a unknown error
[11:45] <gnomefreak> patientfox: build-essential
[11:45] <rgg> screechingcat: it says "unknown error".
[11:46] <patientfox> thanks
[11:46] <screechingcat> rgg,  just get the deb from the site.
[11:46] <rgg> oh,no,i think the problem is in the package
[11:47] <rgg> i just installed some other random thing and it worked pretty well
[11:48] <Code-E> How do I edit the sources.list
[11:48] <marcee> gedit etc/apt/sources.list
[11:48] <SuperMiguel> how can i change my default login manager if i have two installed?
[11:49] <Hans0> Hello everyone!! Just a quick question:
[11:49] <Code-E> um
[11:49] <Hans0> does ubuntu come with netcat??
[11:49] <sillyxone> any idea why my fglrx driver sometimes give me white screen at the login screen (was able to switch to tty1 then back to tty7 to put the screen back to normal)
[11:49] <Code-E> WTF!??!?!
[11:49] <screechingcat> rgg, go to ftp://autopackage.org
[11:49] <Code-E> There is nothing in my sources.list!
[11:49] <RAW-mEAT> hello, when i use update-manager -c -d i got following error: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[11:49] <RAW-mEAT> i want to upgrade to edgy eft.
[11:49] <patientfox> Hans0: yes
[11:49] <SurfnKid> Code-E, look for a sources.list~~ file
[11:49] <SurfnKid> its a backup file
[11:49] <Auberon> hi
[11:49] <RAW-mEAT> whats going wrong?
[11:49] <SurfnKid> within the same dir
[11:49] <SuperMiguel> im using gnome right know, and i install kde, but gnome still my login manager how do i change that?
[11:50] <ixian_> i want to make my linux partition bigger.. how would i do this? i have a large ntfs partition on this drive that i want to make smaller and give some space to the ext3 partition. i opened gparted but everything is greyed out, it wont let me resize anything
[11:50] <screechingcat> Code-E, retype the command. its happened many times to me
[11:50] <SurfnKid> Code-E, or what screechingcat said, it happens often to me :)
[11:50] <SuperMiguel> ixian_: resize it with the live cd
[11:51] <rgg> screechingcat: oh,no,the problem is in the armagetron package.
[11:51] <ixian_> SuperMiguel: so i would just make the ntfs partition smaller, then make the ext3 bigger? it wont mess anything up/
[11:51] <Hans0> so, all I would have to do is download the latest release (live cd)?? I'm trying to image a HDD through LAN, and was told I needed dd and netcat
[11:51] <rgg> i have to go anyway.
[11:51] <SuperMiguel> it wont
[11:51] <SuperMiguel> ixian_: it will take a while to resize both partitions, try to use the live cd and dont DELETE TEHEM just click on resize
[11:51] <SuperMiguel> them*
[11:52] <Code-E> SurfnKid: where is the backup file located?
[11:52] <kitche> Hans0: well you can look up partimage as well which seems to be better
[11:52] <ixian_> the live cd.. i have the 6.06 install disk.. is that the same one?
[11:52] <Hans0> mmm... but will it work over the LAN??
[11:53] <vaksas> E: The package libdvdcss2 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[11:53] <vaksas> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[11:53] <vaksas> how to solve this? :/
[11:53] <kitche> Hans0: if you want something for Lan use amanda
[11:53] <Hans0> hehe, reading partimage info. just saw that I can do it through LAN
[11:54] <savvas> linux-k7 is only for duron/athlon? or does it include sempron k7 also?
[11:54] <Code-E> Where is the sources.list backup file located?
[11:54] <kitche> Hans0: see the onyl issue with dd is that it will grab the whole drive instead of what has been used
[11:55] <SuperMiguel> im using gnome right know, and i install kde, but gnome still my login manager how do i change that?
[11:55] <Hans0> yep, just read that, kitche
[11:55] <Code-E> ?
[11:55] <Hans0> I've been using Nrtn Ghost, but the cds always crap out.
[11:55] <kitche> SuperMiguel: turn off the gdm script and activate the kdm one
[11:55] <Hans0> already did the backup 3 times!!!
[11:55] <SuperMiguel> kitche: how
[11:56] <SinnerG> is it possible to create a suid script that only can be run by a certain user?
[11:57] <erUSUL> SinnerG: give exec permision only to that user??
[11:57] <kitche> SuperMiguel: but anyways you can use gdm with KDe unelss your uninstall gnome
[11:57] <SinnerG> how do I do that?
[11:58] <The_Se3ker> hi everyone
[11:58] <SuperMiguel> kitche: how do i turn the gnm script and active the kde one?
[11:58] <erUSUL> SinnerG: right click in properties of that file and set permisions as you wish
[11:58] <Majax> MystaMax
[11:58] <The_Se3ker> im running Dapper on hdb. but I also have a hda. But how can I mount this drive so I can copy things between the 2 hard drives?
[11:58] <kitche> SuperMiguel: it's in /etc/rc.d/ or whereever ubuntu keeps it's initscripts
[11:58] <dave_> What package has this file: X11/glcanvas.h
[11:59] <SinnerG> hmm I'm talking terminal-only here
[11:59] <Majax> fixed the problem by doing what's writen there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=408111
[11:59] <SinnerG> its for my dedi server
[11:59] <kitche> SinnerG: you have to chmod it a certain way
[11:59] <Majax> MystaMax: fixed the problem by doing what's writen there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=408111
[11:59] <The_Se3ker> mount: can't find /dev/hda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab  <--- whats the solution for this problem?
[11:59] <erUSUL> !schedule
[11:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:59] <Majax> MystaMax: thx anyway ;)
[12:00] <The_Se3ker> how can I add hda to /etc/fstab?
[12:00] <kitche> The_Se3ker: yeah you don't mount a drive you mount a partition
[12:00] <LjL> !mount > The_Se3ker
[12:00] <The_Se3ker> kitche: mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:00] <The_Se3ker> LjL: it says cant be found in fstab
[12:00] <LjL> The_Se3ker: you need to specify a volume *and* a mount point
[12:00] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[12:00] <randomi> Hey
[12:00] <LjL> !it
[12:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:00] <kitche> The_Se3ker: you can still mount without it being in /etc/fstab
[12:01] <LjL> The_Se3ker: "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /somewhere/to/mount"
[12:01] <randomi> What do you guys use for your instant messaging needs?