| EmxBA | Burgwork: let me confirm it...will *only* loco teams get cds for free or everyone? | 12:17 |
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| nixternal | ya im here..sorry | 12:17 |
| Burgwork | for edgy, just loco teams | 12:17 |
| Burgwork | dapper cds will continue to be free | 12:17 |
| nixternal | got a phone call right as you said my name...and then i forgot till i seen the yellow highlight | 12:17 |
| EmxBA | i know that | 12:17 |
| EmxBA | so pygi should send me one cd 'cause my connection is bandwidth-limited. :P | 12:18 |
| nixternal | only locos get them for free for edgy *500 count* | 12:18 |
| EmxBA | yay that's a lot | 12:18 |
| nixternal | hehe | 12:18 |
| nixternal | well, edgy wasn't meant to be the next LTS..edgy is nothign more than the foundation for future releases | 12:18 |
| HedgeMage | nixternal: don't be sorry :) You're allowed to have a life :P | 12:19 |
| nixternal | oh now i can have a life ;) | 12:19 |
| HedgeMage | nixternal: Only because you promised me SVN access :P | 12:19 |
| nixternal | hehe | 12:19 |
| pygi | nixternal: not really, that's just a figure of speech :P | 12:19 |
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| nixternal | im working on the "Edubuntu Handbook Management Control Center" ;) | 12:20 |
| nixternal | oooh it will be awesome when it is done..and easy to use, I hope ;) | 12:20 |
| === HedgeMage grins at nixternal | ||
| HedgeMage | nixternal: What useful work can I be doing now that won't screw up what you're working on? | 12:21 |
| nixternal | anything | 12:21 |
| nixternal | im working local here, so your are fine to do whatever | 12:21 |
| nixternal | what im working on is just a management system for chapters and what not...hopefully only take me an hour or so to complete | 12:22 |
| nixternal | then once that is finished, im sure you will have to hack away at it a little for a clearer perspective | 12:22 |
| HedgeMage | nixternal: sounds good :) | 12:22 |
| adrian__ | Sounds all cool. Can you recommend a reader to read the xml in a readable format. I have looked at the hand book in Kate and OOo but I am only seeing the code version, Yes I can read that but there should be a way to ready it as a normal user? | 12:23 |
| nixternal | adrian, that is the way it is | 12:23 |
| nixternal | ummm...actually | 12:23 |
| nixternal | if you are using ubuntu, you can use Yelp to view what it will look like | 12:23 |
| adrian__ | Kewl, will take a peek ;) thx | 12:24 |
| nixternal | all you do is in a command line 'yelp Edubuntu-Handbook.xml | 12:24 |
| nixternal | and it will open it up for you to move about in...the structure isn't there, but you can see what needs what | 12:24 |
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| Burgwork | anybody who has done nfs-mounted home directories here? | 12:33 |
| nixternal | i used to do it | 12:35 |
| nixternal | until my nfs system went down and rendered my system(s) useless | 12:36 |
| nixternal | imbrandon does them and swears by them..but look at him now on his super tough ibook ;) | 12:36 |
| Burgwork | nixternal: how do I deal with permissions? | 12:37 |
| Burgwork | who needs to own the /home/foo directories on the server? | 12:37 |
| nixternal | foo | 12:37 |
| Burgwork | so I need user accounts on the server for each person? | 12:37 |
| nixternal | that is how i did it, dunno if there is an easier way of going about it | 12:38 |
| Burgwork | right | 12:38 |
| nixternal | i followed a howto on the wiki | 12:38 |
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| pygi | bla* | 12:38 |
| Burgwork | pygi: sorry, I don't understand what you doing | 12:38 |
| pygi | ah, ok, nevermind | 12:39 |
| Burgwork | oh, ugh | 12:41 |
| Burgwork | UIDs much match | 12:41 |
| HedgeMage | nixternal: I just finished sifting through the handbook stuff in ubuntu-doc... it looks really good, and is a LOT easier to understand than the auto-generated mess we started out with (and the bigger mess that grew out of it) | 12:41 |
| nixternal | hehe | 12:41 |
| nixternal | it will shrink as we go along as well | 12:42 |
| nixternal | it will clean itself up | 12:42 |
| HedgeMage | Cool :) | 12:42 |
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| adrian__ | OK, still floundering but need sleep. I will follow up again in the morning, its near midnight here. Thx again all :) | 12:47 |
| Burgwork | nixternal: did you use nis and ldap on that? | 12:49 |
| Burgwork | s/and/or | 12:49 |
| nixternal | i seriously cannot remember | 12:49 |
| nixternal | actually...if you used ldap, i think that might make the task of usernames much easier to control | 12:50 |
| Burgwork | yes, because then I have the clients auth | 12:50 |
| Burgwork | ok, setting up ldap sucks | 01:29 |
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| mhz | moin all | 01:33 |
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| PupUser-c7f90a | greetings...newbie here looking for wireless help...shows connected, but no IP & of course no inet | 01:37 |
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| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuHandbook/Management | 02:27 |
| nixternal | HedgeMage: ^^ | 02:27 |
| nixternal | that is the idea...lil more work and she will be good...im gonna go get a pizza | 02:27 |
| nixternal | bbiab | 02:27 |
| Amaranth | "new Parental Controls [...] for content filtering, apps, and curfews" | 02:28 |
| Amaranth | that's for OS X Leopard | 02:28 |
| Amaranth | crap | 02:28 |
| nixternal | jsjs | 02:28 |
| nixternal | doh | 02:28 |
| nixternal | ahaha | 02:28 |
| Burgwork | Amaranth: can willowng do timebased control? | 02:53 |
| Amaranth | no | 02:53 |
| Amaranth | it's a good idea though | 02:54 |
| Amaranth | Although you would want to block all access to the computer, I would think. | 02:54 |
| Amaranth | Not just web access | 02:54 |
| Burgwork | yep | 02:54 |
| Burgwork | I am saddened that teh SoC project on SafetyBoat went nowhere | 02:54 |
| Burgwork | federico at Novell is working on time and access control, amongst other adminy type things | 02:55 |
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| EmxBA | anyone alive? | 03:02 |
| EmxBA | it's 03:02 :/ | 03:02 |
| keltorsori | alive | 03:04 |
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| lguerra | RichEd: ping | 05:02 |
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| samuel | if I do sudo apt-get install edubuntu for the kid's will that just install another desktop session? or will i lost my standard ubuntu? | 05:14 |
| HedgeMage | samuel: it will make the edubuntu look the default, but you can change to whatever look you want. Other than that, it just adds a few educational packages. | 05:16 |
| HedgeMage | samuel: the original ubuntu stuff is all still there. | 05:16 |
| samuel | thanks | 05:17 |
| HedgeMage | np :) | 05:17 |
| samuel | I have three kid's and figured they would get use out of it | 05:17 |
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| HedgeMage | :) | 06:04 |
| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuHandbook/Management | 06:05 |
| nixternal | ;) | 06:05 |
| HedgeMage | nixternal: cool :) | 06:07 |
| nixternal | something like that will work? | 06:08 |
| nixternal | <rr72> nixternal~ did you talk to HedgMage recently? | 06:10 |
| nixternal | do you know that guy? | 06:10 |
| nixternal | kid i should say | 06:10 |
| nixternal | he knows how to get under a fingernail and just dig | 06:11 |
| HedgeMage | Yes, I know him. | 06:15 |
| HedgeMage | long story. | 06:15 |
| HedgeMage | nixternal: you're welcome to tell him I'm usually in here or #ubuntu-offtopic | 06:16 |
| nixternal | i rather not | 06:16 |
| nixternal | he is in #ubuntu-chicago | 06:16 |
| HedgeMage | heh | 06:16 |
| HedgeMage | ahh | 06:16 |
| nixternal | i can't take anymore of that | 06:16 |
| nixternal | hehe | 06:16 |
| nixternal | he lives right up the road actually | 06:16 |
| nixternal | the way i like it | 06:16 |
| HedgeMage | He's not so bad... you just have to let him know what is and isn't acceptable behavior. | 06:16 |
| nixternal | ya, so he knows how to push up to the line...i let him know from day one...i have him on a leash, he knows not to mess with me | 06:17 |
| nixternal | i made the boundaries rather tight..he has gotten much better though i must say | 06:17 |
| === HedgeMage nods | ||
| HedgeMage | He just needs clear boundaries. | 06:18 |
| nixternal | heh, forget clear, i painted them for him the first night i dealt with him..i brought in my irssi bofh script and left him on op ;) | 06:21 |
| nixternal | he has more ghosts on this server because of all the bans he has been through..but i think the chicago team is starting to mold him into a future hacker actually | 06:21 |
| HedgeMage | lol | 06:25 |
| HedgeMage | nixternal: bbiab TT calls | 06:37 |
| nixternal | hehe k | 06:37 |
| HedgeMage | back :) | 06:47 |
| nixternal | thanks for the warning | 06:48 |
| HedgeMage | :P | 06:48 |
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| Javier_Electrico | hello | 07:22 |
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| nixternal | woohoo, translations are done! | 07:27 |
| nixternal | not for us yet though ;) | 07:27 |
| HedgeMage | hehe :) | 07:29 |
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| nixternal | does edubuntu have an oem-config as well? | 07:36 |
| nixternal | i didn't pay attention on my install earlier | 07:36 |
| Burgundavia | nixternal: yes | 07:37 |
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| nixternal | ok, that is something else that will need to get added to the handbook as well...that also should have been added to edgy docs but wasn't | 07:40 |
| nixternal | that is pretty much a feature not many people even know about | 07:40 |
| nixternal | im wondering about how we should structure the handbook xml | 07:47 |
| nixternal | <parts><chapters> | 07:47 |
| nixternal | or just | 07:47 |
| nixternal | <chapters><sect> | 07:47 |
| Burgundavia | the least amount of xml you produce, the better | 07:48 |
| nixternal | well, least amount you mean the last amount of files | 07:48 |
| nixternal | either way will be about the same amount of xml | 07:48 |
| nixternal | i think it is best to do | 07:48 |
| nixternal | Part I: Introduction as 1 xml file. It coverst "About this Book", "The Ubuntu Philosophy", "Edubuntu", "Choosing The Correct Install Type", "Basic Concepts: Networks & Networking" | 07:49 |
| Burgundavia | also consider what is easiest for people when they move sections around | 07:49 |
| Burgundavia | personally I hate docbook and would rather nto use it | 07:49 |
| nixternal | easiest would be 26 to 30 xml files | 07:50 |
| nixternal | docbook rules | 07:50 |
| nixternal | 1 xml file for each chapter...easier to get a bunch of people in there and working | 07:50 |
| Burgundavia | if you think docbook rules, you are mad | 07:51 |
| Burgundavia | it is powerful but very arcane and hard to see | 07:51 |
| nixternal | ya, i think if we have 1 xml file for each chapter right now..that will be easiest for people to edit, and then at the end bring them all together into chapters | 07:51 |
| nixternal | i want to rename each file, beginning with the part# they will fall in...for instance 'p1-about.xml' , p1-philosophy.xml , p1-edubuntu.xml and so on | 07:52 |
| nixternal | they will be easier to seperate and pick out that way for people not up on svn and what not | 07:52 |
| nixternal | HedgeMage: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26713/ <- that is my layout idea | 08:14 |
| nixternal | actually, i think the 'partone-partfour'.xml files are not needed...i should i have just done part1 to part4 headings there | 08:15 |
| === HedgeMage takes a peek | ||
| HedgeMage | nixternal: looks pretty good... is there no way to seperate the LTSP and Standalone parts into pre-install, install, and post-install chunks ? | 08:17 |
| nixternal | sure | 08:17 |
| nixternal | p2-pre-filename.xml | 08:17 |
| nixternal | p2-post-filename.xml | 08:17 |
| nixternal | something like that | 08:17 |
| === HedgeMage nods | ||
| HedgeMage | that would work fine, then I'm sure we can do something with the book itself so it looks nice in print. | 08:18 |
| nixternal | when they are called though in the handbook.xml file though, it will be chunked like that | 08:18 |
| === HedgeMage nods | ||
| HedgeMage | that's what's important, then | 08:18 |
| nixternal | ya | 08:18 |
| nixternal | seperation in the p1-filename.xml is good...and when called into the handbook.xml it will have the proper layout | 08:18 |
| HedgeMage | our docpeople are smart, I just want the seperation for our readers (not that they aren't smart, but the material will be new/foriegn to many of them) | 08:18 |
| HedgeMage | nixternal: cool | 08:19 |
| nixternal | it will layout similar to the ubuntu or kubuntu desktop guides actually | 08:19 |
| === HedgeMage hasn't seen them, so she has no clue if that's a good or bad thing :P | ||
| nixternal | hehe | 08:23 |
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| toel | hai all friend | 08:55 |
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| toel | im' ronny from indonesia | 08:55 |
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| dudanogueira | hello there! will the cookbook be translated to others languages? | 05:08 |
| pygi | dudanogueira: yes, if people volunteer to do so :) | 05:09 |
| dudanogueira | pygi, i would like to help on brazilillian translations, if possible. | 05:10 |
| dudanogueira | it will be translated from rosetta? | 05:10 |
| pygi | dudanogueira: the edubuntu cookbook won't be translatable from Rosetta | 05:11 |
| dudanogueira | i just saw the post on planet.ubuntu.com | 05:11 |
| pygi | we are currently working on "Edubuntu Handbook" for edgy and I believe that will be translatable from Rosetta | 05:11 |
| dudanogueira | suuuuuuuuuuure, its the hand book, sorry :) | 05:11 |
| dudanogueira | great! ill search for it and bring some more voluteers for translating this document. pygi thank you! | 05:12 |
| pygi | dudanogueira: you are welcome | 05:13 |
| pygi | feel free to ask if you need help with anything | 05:13 |
| dudanogueira | had to go now. but ill come back latter | 05:13 |
| dudanogueira | ok, thank ya! | 05:13 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 05:47 |
| pygi | hey ho bddebian :) | 05:55 |
| bddebian | Hello pygi | 05:56 |
| pygi | how is you? | 05:56 |
| bddebian | OK I guess, thanks. You? | 05:59 |
| pygi | extremly tired | 06:03 |
| pygi | haven't slept for more then 3 hours every night this week | 06:03 |
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| Javier_Electrico | hello | 06:40 |
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| pygi | hey cbx33, Yagisan | 07:04 |
| cbx33 | hey pygi | 07:04 |
| Yagisan | G'day pygi | 07:04 |
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| cbx33 | hi Yagisan | 07:05 |
| cbx33 | long time no see | 07:06 |
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| Yagisan | cbx33, exams monday thats why | 07:06 |
| cbx33 | ahhh | 07:06 |
| pygi | Yagisan: oh, my exams Friday .... I think :) | 07:07 |
| pygi | will fail them, but whateva :P | 07:08 |
| Yagisan | Firday is my last exam | 07:08 |
| Yagisan | O_O | 07:08 |
| Yagisan | oh dear - can't type english - not enough caffeine | 07:08 |
| pygi | Yagisan: :) | 07:12 |
| Yagisan | pygi, my kettle broke on friday | 07:14 |
| Yagisan | I only got a new one today | 07:14 |
| Yagisan | er yseterday lat evening actually | 07:14 |
| Yagisan | and it's sunday now | 07:14 |
| pygi | oh :P | 07:14 |
| Yagisan | so thats 2 days with no coffee | 07:14 |
| Yagisan | and 2 very very energetic children | 07:15 |
| pygi | :P :P :P | 07:15 |
| Yagisan | my brain feels like mush | 07:15 |
| pygi | well, as I said above, I haven't slept for more then 3 hours every night this week | 07:15 |
| pygi | and that will continue in the future as well | 07:15 |
| Yagisan | oh oh , and this was good too | 07:17 |
| Yagisan | today ws the 3rd day of above 35 degree tempretures in the city | 07:18 |
| pygi | o joy | 07:18 |
| Yagisan | being in the boondocks | 07:18 |
| pygi | here it's cold :-/ | 07:18 |
| Yagisan | I'm about 4 degrees hotter | 07:18 |
| Yagisan | so it's ~40 outside, and somewhat hotter inside | 07:18 |
| Yagisan | and suddenly all 3 pcs started going beep-beep-beep beep-beep-beep beep-beep-beep | 07:19 |
| Yagisan | O_O | 07:19 |
| pygi | !!! | 07:19 |
| pygi | I have 5 heatsinks for that purpose :) | 07:19 |
| Yagisan | pygi - it's is a veritable windfarm in here | 07:19 |
| Yagisan | and they still all tripped the overheat alarm | 07:20 |
| Yagisan | and dropped off the net | 07:20 |
| pygi | oh!!! | 07:20 |
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| Yagisan | argh - I tried to tab complete grep | 07:27 |
| pygi | :P | 07:27 |
| Yagisan | it had to beep 3 times before I realised :( | 07:27 |
| cbx33 | sorry | 07:28 |
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| cbx33 | got some new leads so I can hook in the effects unit | 07:28 |
| cbx33 | :) | 07:28 |
| cbx33 | brb - kernel testing | 07:28 |
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| cbx33 | ping Amaranth | 07:35 |
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| pygi | hey nixternal | 07:39 |
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| nixternal | is the whole firefox logo thing that big of a deal? | 07:48 |
| nixternal | im sick of seeing the mailing lists flooded with it | 07:48 |
| nixternal | hiya pygi, btw ;) | 07:49 |
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| pygi | nixternal: :) | 08:13 |
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| keltorsori | any edubuntu wizards here? | 11:24 |
| pygi | keltorsori: how may I help you? | 11:26 |
| keltorsori | i've got two NICs, my clients are connected to eth1 on the 192.168.0.xxx subnet. eth0 is my net connection with an IP of 192.168.1.10, how in the world can i get my clients online. there was a wiki article on this but i can't for the life of me find it | 11:27 |
| === pygi thinks that's iptable's task | ||
| pygi | or read this perhaps: http://edubuntu.com/GettingStarted | 11:30 |
| keltorsori | really only covers the first nic | 11:35 |
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| === pygi did such implementation at one occasion, he's sure in that | ||
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