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DaSkreechOr a IRC chan :)12:15
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jdongevening...01:03
Riddellhi jdong 01:08
Riddellkwwii: so which kmenu side image are we going for?01:08
kwwiiRiddell: hehe, give me a second and I will upload the final one01:10
kwwiiRiddell: I used the first version, but I rounded the edges01:10
kwwiiuploading now01:12
kwwiierm, commiting01:12
kwwiidone01:14
kwwiithat is the last from me for tonight01:14
kwwii:-)01:14
imbrandonheya all01:16
kwwiihowdy imbrandon01:16
imbrandonhey kwwii ;)01:17
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Hawkwindkwwii: Got a link to the final image you decided on ?01:23
kwwiilet me make a final screen01:24
kwwiihttp://sinecera.de/snapshot12.png01:30
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Hawkwindkwwii: Very nice looking indeed01:32
kwwiiHawkwind: thanks01:39
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imbrandonkwwii, i like my iBook's KDE theme ;) http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss_lappy1.png01:51
kwwiihehe01:52
ryanakcaimbrandon: nice :)01:55
ryanakcakwwii: you have the kubuntu logo (just the round part) on a transparent background somewhere?01:55
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kwwiiryanakca: there is one on the wiki01:59
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ryanakcaone what? kubuntu licence plate or logo?01:59
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imbrandon[19:01]  <NewdleBot> imbrandon, the Digital_KDE_Blasphmey, has attained level 44! Next level in 4 days, 18:17:16.02:03
imbrandonwoot02:03
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rick_are they going to fix cups, so printing will work again?02:25
Riddell"they"?02:25
ryanakcacups works here... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu , why is it still linking to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperArtworkTodo ?02:27
ryanakcamind if I edit it?02:27
Riddellryanakca: go ahead02:27
ryanakcado we have an edgy edition? or have we finished artwork for edgy?02:28
kwwiinight all02:28
ryanakcanight kwwii02:28
Riddellguess that means it's all done :)02:28
ryanakcalol02:29
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ryanakcaRiddell: text layer http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/kubuntu/2.png   anything I should change before I emboss and colourize it?02:39
=== ryanakca will move the motto up a bit... just a sec
ryanakcarefresh :)02:43
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Jucatohi Hobbsee! :)03:07
Hobbseehey Jucato 03:08
Jucatofinally I'm using a PC at home now... but it's my sister's so it's still XP. :(03:08
Hobbseeahh :)03:09
Hobbseehmm.  i finally made gnome look pretty-ish03:09
Jucatoscreenshot? :P03:10
Jucatobtw, why are you on GNOME?03:10
Hobbseebecause i can be.03:11
imbrandoni made kde on my i book finaly look pretty 03:11
imbrandonGNOME !?!03:11
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Jucatowell, that doesn't really answer my question :)03:11
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Jucato(almost)03:12
imbrandonheh03:12
imbrandonajmitch, finaly assimlated Hobbsee03:12
Hobbseeimbrandon: i've got xfce on here too now03:12
Jucatonoooh!!03:13
JucatoI once made Ubuntu look like Kubuntu, just for fun.03:13
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ajmitchimbrandon: heh03:13
ajmitch                       74G   72G  916M  99% /03:13
Hobbseemy trouble is, is that i seem to have to be running heaps of kde stuff just to get functionality at all03:13
ajmitchyeah, I'd better clean up /03:13
Hobbseeajmitch: heh.  yes03:13
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=== Hobbsee notes that you can run katapult in xfce.
Hobbseeand gnome :)03:14
Jucatoyou can run Katapult in GNOME?03:15
Hobbseeyep03:15
Jucatothat's news to me :)03:15
Jucatoif you're running heaps and heaps of KDE stuff on GNOME... :P03:16
Hobbseehaha03:16
Hobbseeyeah well03:16
Jucatoanyway, it's all about choice :)03:16
Jucato(I guess...)03:16
Jucatoaaah... I so missed sitting comfortably in front of a computer, with a working mouse scroll wheel, without people shouting left and right (gamers)...03:17
Hobbseehehe03:18
=== Hobbsee has discovered there are better alternatives to openoffice
Hobbseehavent seen much else worth having03:19
Hobbseealthough the fade to sudo is nice03:19
Jucatoyeah I definitely loved that one in GNOME03:19
Jucatofocusing on the dialog box for gksudo03:19
Hobbseeyep03:20
JucatoI was able to imitate that slightly in KDE using the Advanced Window Settings. of course, no fade effect03:20
Hobbseethe bug reporter is also cool03:20
Hobbseealthough it seems to launch about 5 times03:21
Hobbseeand i havent tried the upgrader.03:21
Jucatoah the new one? haven't tested that out.03:21
Hobbseeyep03:21
Jucatoimho, the Software Properties of Synaptic (a.k.a. Manage Repositories in Adept) is very nice03:22
Hobbseewell, i hear that the dist-upgrader thing on gnome does actually support kubuntu03:23
Jucatothe Upgrade Notifier thing?03:23
Hobbseei dont think so03:24
Hobbseethe update-manager, i think03:24
Jucatohm... I think in GNOME,t he update manager and update notifier is just one app, unlike Adept Notifier and Adept Updater? not really sure... it's been months since I used GNOME03:25
Hobbseeyeah...03:25
Hobbseedarn, it says i'm all updated03:26
Hobbseei knew i shouldnt have done the updates03:26
Jucatowhy not?03:26
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Riddellfreeflying!03:29
Riddellfreeflying: I need a bug number for your fonts problem03:29
freeflyingRiddell: hi03:30
Jucatois Edgy still set to be released on the 26th?03:32
gnomefreakyes03:32
freeflyingRiddell: malone #6569703:32
UbugtuMalone bug 65697 in kubuntu-default-settings "kubuntu dapper can't display Chinese in non-Chinese locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6569703:32
Jucatooh good :)03:33
Jucatoyay my bug report has been confirmed by popular vote! (is that good?)03:34
Riddellmob rule!03:35
Jucatolol03:36
Jucatoit's about the disabled manage repositories menu in Adept :P03:36
Riddellwhich I fixed today03:36
Jucatoyay!! 03:36
Riddellbut not in upstream right enough03:36
Jucato:)03:37
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Hobbseehey Riddell!03:45
Riddellmorning Hobbsee 03:45
HobbseeRiddell: what's the time there?03:46
Hobbseeit's like...5am or something?03:46
Riddellgetting on to 3am03:46
Hobbseeahh03:46
ryanakcaRiddell: finished version 1: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/finishedpurple.png03:46
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ryanakcaouch03:46
Hobbseeryanakca: 404'd03:46
RiddellObject not found!03:46
ryanakcaoops...03:47
Hobbseehehe03:47
ryanakca~ryan/kubuntu/03:47
ryanakcasorry03:47
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=== ryanakca thinks he could round out the edges of the license plate and add some contour, but other than that?
Riddellthe logo in the middle shouldn't be run through the filters03:50
ryanakcakk, so standard blue one?03:51
ryanakcacrystal one? or Standard Official Logo using new ttf-ubuntu-title font03:51
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orkid__http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/kubuntu/finishedpurple.png03:52
=== ryanakca is thinking the crisp blue crystal one instead of the faded blueish - grey standard one?
Riddellyes03:53
=== orkid__ thinks that sans-serif font would look better.
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ryanakcasans-serif? objections anybody? 03:56
rouzicHi riddell hobbsee03:59
rouzicI need the moodbar package, I don't find04:00
Riddellryanakca: it shouldn't be too much like the kubuntu logo, I'd keep the serifs04:00
ryanakcakk04:00
ryanakcaserifs it is :)04:00
ryanakcasave me some work04:00
imbrandonrouzic, we dident package moodbar yet as it requires amarok-gstreamer and we dont use that04:01
imbrandonthat and its highly buggy atm04:01
Riddellit does?04:01
rouzicI need the amarok-gstreamer for use?04:02
rouzicThanks imbrandon :)04:02
imbrandoni'm assuming he ment the amarok moodbar yea04:02
imbrandonif there is another one then maybe not04:02
rouzicand amarok-xine? :(04:02
RiddellI don't remember it needed gstreamer04:02
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Hobbseethe new one does, iirc04:03
imbrandonhold on lemme find the url04:04
rouzicThanks imbrandon riddell :)04:04
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imbrandonahh found it04:06
imbrandoni guess you DO need gstreamer but NOT amarok-gstreamer04:06
imbrandonhttp://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Moodbar04:06
rouzicoks :)04:07
orkid__koffice in amd64 doesn't have crystal icons? does it have something to do with java?04:08
=== Hobbsee idly wonders why so many kdeish people like
Hobbseethe single click behaviour04:08
ryanakcaRiddell: Hobbsee: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/kubuntu/5.png04:09
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orkid__i mean: OOo04:09
Riddellryanakca: groovy04:12
Riddellorkid__: crystal icons work for me04:12
ryanakcaRiddell: thanks :)04:12
orkid__Riddell: in amd64 on OOo?04:12
Riddellorkid__: yes04:12
orkid__(in OOo)04:12
orkid__hm04:12
ryanakcawell, I'm off to bed :)04:13
orkid__openoffice.org 2.0.4rc3-0ubuntu4 Tue Oct 10 04:57:41 UTC 200604:13
orkid__same version?04:13
ryanakcaI'll try to add a couple things tommorow (trip, holes for the bolts) morning04:13
orkid__bye04:15
Hobbseenight Riddell 04:17
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Tonio__hi10:49
Hobbseehey Tonio_!10:51
Tonio_Hobbsee: ;)10:51
Tonio_Riddell: dholbach patches to kdeblutooth causes "disconnect" action of kmenu to fail... just seen that10:52
Tonio_Riddell: need to add a '&' at the end of Exec...10:54
Tonio_Riddell: I fixed the package, just need to know who to ping, since I'm not very familiar with the release team10:59
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HobbseeTonio_: tfheen?11:22
Tonio_Hobbsee: what ?11:22
HobbseeTonio_: who to ping?  tfheen is usually the one, iirc.11:23
HobbseeTonio_: or whoever does the accepting11:23
Tonio_Hobbsee: great thanks11:23
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raphinkhmpf11:59
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Riddellraphink: hmpf?12:00
raphinkjust switched my powerbook to edgy12:00
raphinkand having quite a few bad issues12:00
raphinkI should have switched it before12:00
raphinkthe two worse ones are 12:00
raphink* AltGr key not working, which is really bad, and had me change my password12:01
raphink* Konqueror not charging web pages12:01
raphinkI didn't  have these issues on my i386 desktop at work 12:01
raphinkso I guess at least the altgr issue might be powerpc specific12:01
raphinkI have to find out what's wrong with the keyboard settings12:02
raphinkmacintosh keyboards are always a problem :(12:02
fdovingi don't have any issues on my iBook with edgy.12:06
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Tonio_hey Riddell, raphink12:44
Tonio_O_o12:44
Tonio_just received an email from google concerning employement12:44
Tonio_and the smtp headers are correct, that's not a spam12:45
raphinkyop Tonio_12:45
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raphinkTonio_: great :)12:45
raphinkwhere would that be?12:45
Tonio_raphink: bah, mountain view :)12:46
Tonio_impossible for me12:46
raphinkargh12:46
Tonio_raphink: I presume they are contacting a few people comming for the uds, since that help meeting those people12:46
Tonio_something like that12:46
raphinkmhm12:46
Tonio_well I'll respond, it's never bad to answer12:47
raphinksure :)12:48
raphinkedgy broke my keyboard12:49
raphink:(12:49
Tonio_raphink: argh !12:50
raphink:(12:51
raphinkno altgr anymore 12:52
Tonio_Riddell: I just uploaded kdebluetooth again, that fixes the logout issue in kde, infinity approved12:52
Tonio_raphink: weird...12:52
raphinkoh not like it's the first time on ppc12:52
raphinkkonqueror doesn't work either12:52
Tonio_raphink: tried to dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?12:52
raphinkwell it does it in tty too12:53
raphinkbut yes I tried and it didn't fix it12:53
Tonio_or changed kde settings ?12:53
raphinkso I'm in qwerty now12:53
Tonio_raphink: ah ! kde issue then12:53
raphinkTonio_: it's not kde specific12:53
raphinkit's general12:53
raphinkit happens in tty as I sais12:53
raphinksaid12:53
raphinkI can't even login because I need altgr to type my passwd 12:53
raphinkso I had to change the passwd12:53
Tonio_raphink: ah yes, I missunderstood :)12:54
raphinkhehe12:54
Tonio_raphink: matter of hardware detection then.... probably the kernel directly12:58
raphinkI don't think so12:58
raphinkI'd say this it a keymap issue12:58
raphinkok well I think my new www machine is almost ready ;)12:59
raphinka good P3 400MHz12:59
raphinkto replace my 2400+ 2GHz12:59
raphink:)12:59
raphinkah no, P3 600MHz01:00
Tonio_raphink: are keymaps on ppc different that on intel ?01:00
Tonio_didn't knew that01:00
raphinkyes they are01:00
raphinkalright01:01
raphinklet's move this machine :)01:01
raphinkand set the NAT01:01
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Simesebas: ping01:17
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Riddellthanks Tonio_ 02:24
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ryanakcaRiddell: Hobbsee: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/kubuntu/7.png03:54
Hobbseenice :)03:54
ryanakcaDo I bother adding a renewal sticker? (one that has 6-10 on it?)03:54
ryanakcaty03:54
ryanakcakindof like http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/jpglps/CN_ON_GI8_1990's-today.jpg       (in the top right corner)03:55
ryanakca?04:01
ryanakcaHobbsee: did imbrandon ask you to teach this afternoon's course? 04:02
Hobbseeryanakca: sorry?04:02
Hobbseeryanakca: what's on this afternoon, and what's the course?04:02
Hobbseeand does it involve playign in python?04:02
ryanakcain #ubuntu-classroom ... he said he'd ask you to paste his notes in the channel this afternoon since he wouldn't be able to make it... it's about KMail04:03
Hobbseeryanakca: he said nothing to me about it04:07
ryanakcaHobbsee: kk04:08
ryanakcaHobbsee: so should I add a renewal sticker to the plate?04:08
Hobbseeryanakca: got no idea. Riddell is around though04:09
ryanakcakk04:09
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ryanakcaRiddell: ping04:26
Riddellhi ryanakca 04:29
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ryanakcaRiddell: mind giving me your opinion on that idea I described above? (the renewal sticker)04:36
ryanakcabbl04:38
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sebasHELP!05:05
sebasAfter the update I did 10 minutes ago, my input is totally freaking out05:05
sebaspressing the control key opens konsole and does a right mouse button action.05:06
sebasALT behaves weird, too.05:06
sebasNumLock mutes the mixer (and does what it's supposed to do)05:07
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Simesebas: Happy birthday!05:24
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sebasSime: Thanks :-)05:37
n8k99imbrandon: have you used a projector with your iBook?05:37
sebasAs to the input issue: I've learnt that cleaning the keyboard with a wet towel and dist-upgrading at the same time can confuse the reason for weirdness.05:37
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bddebianHowdy05:47
Jucatohi bddebian05:48
Jucatosebas: happy birthday! you have the same birthday as KDE? 05:48
bddebianHello Jucato05:49
sebasJucato: Yeah, it's Kugler Desktop Environment :-)05:59
Jucatoheh how nice :)05:59
mhbsebas: there's only one thing to say: happy birthday! :o)06:09
sebasthx :)06:16
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DaSkreechnixternal: Hi06:17
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ryanakcahappy birthday sebas07:02
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ryanakcaimbrandon: ping07:13
Simesebas: hey, I was just wondering. What kind of computer did you have back in the good ol' days? (80s, 90s)07:20
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=== Hawkwind Remembers his good ole Commodore 64 from the 80's.
=== Hawkwind Boots his C 64 that is on the desk next to him :)
SimeHawkwind: and it boots in 3 seconds... whoohoo!07:31
HawkwindHeh07:34
HawkwindI just need to get some games for it though.  I don't have many currently07:34
mhbSime: good proposal for edgy+1 .o)07:34
nixternalhiya DaSkreech!07:38
imbrandonryanakca, pong07:38
imbrandonmhb, which one ?07:39
mhbimbrandon: boot edgy+1 in 3 seconds ... I wish07:40
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ryanakcaRiddell: should I add a sticker type thing with "6-10" on it? (Something like the one in the top right corner of http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/jpglps/CN_ON_GI8_1990's-today.jpg  )08:18
Hawkwindryanakca: That URL is a 404 error09:02
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ryanakcaHawkwind: sure? works here...09:02
HawkwindPage not found09:03
HawkwindThe page you requested was not found on this web server. This could be for a variety of reasons, including:09:03
ryanakcaodd09:04
ryanakcaHawkwind: http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/world/CN_ONTA.html09:05
ryanakcatry that09:05
HawkwindThat works09:05
HawkwindI think the sticker might be a good idea.  Atleast one with and one without09:06
ryanakcakk09:13
ryanakcaHawkwind: what color d'you think?09:15
Hawkwindryanakca: I'd stick with the K colors and use a dark blue with a white text possibly09:17
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sleonhi, is it intenet that /etc/cups/client.conf is ignored?09:21
sleonor is it a bug in cupsys-client package?09:21
sleonit is not possible to bind this kubuntu box to a remote cups server09:22
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ryanakcaHawkwind: top or bottom right or left?09:28
Hawkwindryanakca: I'd say top right probably09:29
ryanakcahmm..09:30
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fdovingwas the borken guidance modules fixed? 09:47
fdovingit still doesn't work for me.09:47
fdovingthe display module does not work in systemsettings, even though running 'displayconfig' works.09:48
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marseillaia question : is it normal to have many problems with french translation in edgy?11:21
marseillaifor example amarok is a 0% translate11:22
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jdongRiddell, imbrandon: ping11:26
jdongTonio_: ping, too :) ^^11:29
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jdongRiddell, imbrandon, Tonio_: look at bug 66169 when you get a chance. Hopefully it's not too late. terribly sorry I didn't notice it earlier... /me no got ppc11:35
UbugtuMalone bug 66169 in ktorrent "FTBFS: ktorrent 2.0.3 on ppc" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6616911:35
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jdongTonio___: which tonio_ is actually tonio__, Tonio___?11:45
jdonglol11:45
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fdovingnite all.12:06
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