[12:15] <DaSkreech> Or a IRC chan :)
[01:03] <jdong> evening...
[01:08] <Riddell> hi jdong 
[01:08] <Riddell> kwwii: so which kmenu side image are we going for?
[01:10] <kwwii> Riddell: hehe, give me a second and I will upload the final one
[01:10] <kwwii> Riddell: I used the first version, but I rounded the edges
[01:12] <kwwii> uploading now
[01:12] <kwwii> erm, commiting
[01:14] <kwwii> done
[01:14] <kwwii> that is the last from me for tonight
[01:14] <kwwii> :-)
[01:16] <imbrandon> heya all
[01:16] <kwwii> howdy imbrandon
[01:17] <imbrandon> hey kwwii ;)
[01:23] <Hawkwind> kwwii: Got a link to the final image you decided on ?
[01:24] <kwwii> let me make a final screen
[01:30] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/snapshot12.png
[01:32] <Hawkwind> kwwii: Very nice looking indeed
[01:39] <kwwii> Hawkwind: thanks
[01:51] <imbrandon> kwwii, i like my iBook's KDE theme ;) http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss_lappy1.png
[01:52] <kwwii> hehe
[01:55] <ryanakca> imbrandon: nice :)
[01:55] <ryanakca> kwwii: you have the kubuntu logo (just the round part) on a transparent background somewhere?
[01:59] <kwwii> ryanakca: there is one on the wiki
[01:59] <ryanakca> one what? kubuntu licence plate or logo?
[02:03] <imbrandon> [19:01]  <NewdleBot> imbrandon, the Digital_KDE_Blasphmey, has attained level 44! Next level in 4 days, 18:17:16.
[02:03] <imbrandon> woot
[02:25] <rick_> are they going to fix cups, so printing will work again?
[02:25] <Riddell> "they"?
[02:27] <ryanakca> cups works here... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu , why is it still linking to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperArtworkTodo ?
[02:27] <ryanakca> mind if I edit it?
[02:27] <Riddell> ryanakca: go ahead
[02:28] <ryanakca> do we have an edgy edition? or have we finished artwork for edgy?
[02:28] <kwwii> night all
[02:28] <ryanakca> night kwwii
[02:28] <Riddell> guess that means it's all done :)
[02:29] <ryanakca> lol
[02:39] <ryanakca> Riddell: text layer http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/kubuntu/2.png   anything I should change before I emboss and colourize it?
[02:43] <ryanakca> refresh :)
[03:07] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee! :)
[03:08] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato 
[03:08] <Jucato> finally I'm using a PC at home now... but it's my sister's so it's still XP. :(
[03:09] <Hobbsee> ahh :)
[03:09] <Hobbsee> hmm.  i finally made gnome look pretty-ish
[03:10] <Jucato> screenshot? :P
[03:10] <Jucato> btw, why are you on GNOME?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> because i can be.
[03:11] <imbrandon> i made kde on my i book finaly look pretty 
[03:11] <imbrandon> GNOME !?!
[03:11] <Jucato> well, that doesn't really answer my question :)
[03:12] <Jucato> (almost)
[03:12] <imbrandon> heh
[03:12] <imbrandon> ajmitch, finaly assimlated Hobbsee
[03:12] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: i've got xfce on here too now
[03:13] <Jucato> noooh!!
[03:13] <Jucato> I once made Ubuntu look like Kubuntu, just for fun.
[03:13] <ajmitch> imbrandon: heh
[03:13] <ajmitch>                        74G   72G  916M  99% /
[03:13] <Hobbsee> my trouble is, is that i seem to have to be running heaps of kde stuff just to get functionality at all
[03:13] <ajmitch> yeah, I'd better clean up /
[03:13] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: heh.  yes
[03:14] <Hobbsee> and gnome :)
[03:15] <Jucato> you can run Katapult in GNOME?
[03:15] <Hobbsee> yep
[03:15] <Jucato> that's news to me :)
[03:16] <Jucato> if you're running heaps and heaps of KDE stuff on GNOME... :P
[03:16] <Hobbsee> haha
[03:16] <Hobbsee> yeah well
[03:16] <Jucato> anyway, it's all about choice :)
[03:16] <Jucato> (I guess...)
[03:17] <Jucato> aaah... I so missed sitting comfortably in front of a computer, with a working mouse scroll wheel, without people shouting left and right (gamers)...
[03:18] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:19] <Hobbsee> havent seen much else worth having
[03:19] <Hobbsee> although the fade to sudo is nice
[03:19] <Jucato> yeah I definitely loved that one in GNOME
[03:19] <Jucato> focusing on the dialog box for gksudo
[03:20] <Hobbsee> yep
[03:20] <Jucato> I was able to imitate that slightly in KDE using the Advanced Window Settings. of course, no fade effect
[03:20] <Hobbsee> the bug reporter is also cool
[03:21] <Hobbsee> although it seems to launch about 5 times
[03:21] <Hobbsee> and i havent tried the upgrader.
[03:21] <Jucato> ah the new one? haven't tested that out.
[03:21] <Hobbsee> yep
[03:22] <Jucato> imho, the Software Properties of Synaptic (a.k.a. Manage Repositories in Adept) is very nice
[03:23] <Hobbsee> well, i hear that the dist-upgrader thing on gnome does actually support kubuntu
[03:23] <Jucato> the Upgrade Notifier thing?
[03:24] <Hobbsee> i dont think so
[03:24] <Hobbsee> the update-manager, i think
[03:25] <Jucato> hm... I think in GNOME,t he update manager and update notifier is just one app, unlike Adept Notifier and Adept Updater? not really sure... it's been months since I used GNOME
[03:25] <Hobbsee> yeah...
[03:26] <Hobbsee> darn, it says i'm all updated
[03:26] <Hobbsee> i knew i shouldnt have done the updates
[03:26] <Jucato> why not?
[03:29] <Riddell> freeflying!
[03:29] <Riddell> freeflying: I need a bug number for your fonts problem
[03:30] <freeflying> Riddell: hi
[03:32] <Jucato> is Edgy still set to be released on the 26th?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:32] <freeflying> Riddell: malone #65697
[03:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65697 in kubuntu-default-settings "kubuntu dapper can't display Chinese in non-Chinese locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65697
[03:33] <Jucato> oh good :)
[03:34] <Jucato> yay my bug report has been confirmed by popular vote! (is that good?)
[03:35] <Riddell> mob rule!
[03:36] <Jucato> lol
[03:36] <Jucato> it's about the disabled manage repositories menu in Adept :P
[03:36] <Riddell> which I fixed today
[03:36] <Jucato> yay!! 
[03:36] <Riddell> but not in upstream right enough
[03:37] <Jucato> :)
[03:45] <Hobbsee> hey Riddell!
[03:45] <Riddell> morning Hobbsee 
[03:46] <Hobbsee> Riddell: what's the time there?
[03:46] <Hobbsee> it's like...5am or something?
[03:46] <Riddell> getting on to 3am
[03:46] <Hobbsee> ahh
[03:46] <ryanakca> Riddell: finished version 1: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/finishedpurple.png
[03:46] <ryanakca> ouch
[03:46] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: 404'd
[03:46] <Riddell> Object not found!
[03:47] <ryanakca> oops...
[03:47] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:47] <ryanakca> ~ryan/kubuntu/
[03:47] <ryanakca> sorry
[03:50] <Riddell> the logo in the middle shouldn't be run through the filters
[03:51] <ryanakca> kk, so standard blue one?
[03:51] <ryanakca> crystal one? or Standard Official Logo using new ttf-ubuntu-title font
[03:52] <orkid__> http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/kubuntu/finishedpurple.png
[03:53] <Riddell> yes
[03:56] <ryanakca> sans-serif? objections anybody? 
[03:59] <rouzic> Hi riddell hobbsee
[04:00] <rouzic> I need the moodbar package, I don't find
[04:00] <Riddell> ryanakca: it shouldn't be too much like the kubuntu logo, I'd keep the serifs
[04:00] <ryanakca> kk
[04:00] <ryanakca> serifs it is :)
[04:00] <ryanakca> save me some work
[04:01] <imbrandon> rouzic, we dident package moodbar yet as it requires amarok-gstreamer and we dont use that
[04:01] <imbrandon> that and its highly buggy atm
[04:01] <Riddell> it does?
[04:02] <rouzic> I need the amarok-gstreamer for use?
[04:02] <rouzic> Thanks imbrandon :)
[04:02] <imbrandon> i'm assuming he ment the amarok moodbar yea
[04:02] <imbrandon> if there is another one then maybe not
[04:02] <rouzic> and amarok-xine? :(
[04:02] <Riddell> I don't remember it needed gstreamer
[04:03] <Hobbsee> the new one does, iirc
[04:04] <imbrandon> hold on lemme find the url
[04:04] <rouzic> Thanks imbrandon riddell :)
[04:06] <imbrandon> ahh found it
[04:06] <imbrandon> i guess you DO need gstreamer but NOT amarok-gstreamer
[04:06] <imbrandon> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Moodbar
[04:07] <rouzic> oks :)
[04:08] <orkid__> koffice in amd64 doesn't have crystal icons? does it have something to do with java?
[04:08] <Hobbsee> the single click behaviour
[04:09] <ryanakca> Riddell: Hobbsee: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/kubuntu/5.png
[04:09] <orkid__> i mean: OOo
[04:12] <Riddell> ryanakca: groovy
[04:12] <Riddell> orkid__: crystal icons work for me
[04:12] <ryanakca> Riddell: thanks :)
[04:12] <orkid__> Riddell: in amd64 on OOo?
[04:12] <Riddell> orkid__: yes
[04:12] <orkid__> (in OOo)
[04:12] <orkid__> hm
[04:13] <ryanakca> well, I'm off to bed :)
[04:13] <orkid__> openoffice.org 2.0.4rc3-0ubuntu4 Tue Oct 10 04:57:41 UTC 2006
[04:13] <orkid__> same version?
[04:13] <ryanakca> I'll try to add a couple things tommorow (trip, holes for the bolts) morning
[04:15] <orkid__> bye
[04:17] <Hobbsee> night Riddell 
[10:49] <Tonio__> hi
[10:51] <Hobbsee> hey Tonio_!
[10:51] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: ;)
[10:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: dholbach patches to kdeblutooth causes "disconnect" action of kmenu to fail... just seen that
[10:54] <Tonio_> Riddell: need to add a '&' at the end of Exec...
[10:59] <Tonio_> Riddell: I fixed the package, just need to know who to ping, since I'm not very familiar with the release team
[11:22] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: tfheen?
[11:22] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: what ?
[11:23] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: who to ping?  tfheen is usually the one, iirc.
[11:23] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: or whoever does the accepting
[11:23] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: great thanks
[11:59] <raphink> hmpf
[12:00] <Riddell> raphink: hmpf?
[12:00] <raphink> just switched my powerbook to edgy
[12:00] <raphink> and having quite a few bad issues
[12:00] <raphink> I should have switched it before
[12:00] <raphink> the two worse ones are 
[12:01] <raphink> * AltGr key not working, which is really bad, and had me change my password
[12:01] <raphink> * Konqueror not charging web pages
[12:01] <raphink> I didn't  have these issues on my i386 desktop at work 
[12:01] <raphink> so I guess at least the altgr issue might be powerpc specific
[12:02] <raphink> I have to find out what's wrong with the keyboard settings
[12:02] <raphink> macintosh keyboards are always a problem :(
[12:06] <fdoving> i don't have any issues on my iBook with edgy.
[12:44] <Tonio_> hey Riddell, raphink
[12:44] <Tonio_> O_o
[12:44] <Tonio_> just received an email from google concerning employement
[12:45] <Tonio_> and the smtp headers are correct, that's not a spam
[12:45] <raphink> yop Tonio_
[12:45] <raphink> Tonio_: great :)
[12:45] <raphink> where would that be?
[12:46] <Tonio_> raphink: bah, mountain view :)
[12:46] <Tonio_> impossible for me
[12:46] <raphink> argh
[12:46] <Tonio_> raphink: I presume they are contacting a few people comming for the uds, since that help meeting those people
[12:46] <Tonio_> something like that
[12:46] <raphink> mhm
[12:47] <Tonio_> well I'll respond, it's never bad to answer
[12:48] <raphink> sure :)
[12:49] <raphink> edgy broke my keyboard
[12:49] <raphink> :(
[12:50] <Tonio_> raphink: argh !
[12:51] <raphink> :(
[12:52] <raphink> no altgr anymore 
[12:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: I just uploaded kdebluetooth again, that fixes the logout issue in kde, infinity approved
[12:52] <Tonio_> raphink: weird...
[12:52] <raphink> oh not like it's the first time on ppc
[12:52] <raphink> konqueror doesn't work either
[12:52] <Tonio_> raphink: tried to dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[12:53] <raphink> well it does it in tty too
[12:53] <raphink> but yes I tried and it didn't fix it
[12:53] <Tonio_> or changed kde settings ?
[12:53] <raphink> so I'm in qwerty now
[12:53] <Tonio_> raphink: ah ! kde issue then
[12:53] <raphink> Tonio_: it's not kde specific
[12:53] <raphink> it's general
[12:53] <raphink> it happens in tty as I sais
[12:53] <raphink> said
[12:53] <raphink> I can't even login because I need altgr to type my passwd 
[12:53] <raphink> so I had to change the passwd
[12:54] <Tonio_> raphink: ah yes, I missunderstood :)
[12:54] <raphink> hehe
[12:58] <Tonio_> raphink: matter of hardware detection then.... probably the kernel directly
[12:58] <raphink> I don't think so
[12:58] <raphink> I'd say this it a keymap issue
[12:59] <raphink> ok well I think my new www machine is almost ready ;)
[12:59] <raphink> a good P3 400MHz
[12:59] <raphink> to replace my 2400+ 2GHz
[12:59] <raphink> :)
[01:00] <raphink> ah no, P3 600MHz
[01:00] <Tonio_> raphink: are keymaps on ppc different that on intel ?
[01:00] <Tonio_> didn't knew that
[01:00] <raphink> yes they are
[01:01] <raphink> alright
[01:01] <raphink> let's move this machine :)
[01:01] <raphink> and set the NAT
[01:17] <Sime> sebas: ping
[02:24] <Riddell> thanks Tonio_ 
[03:54] <ryanakca> Riddell: Hobbsee: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/kubuntu/7.png
[03:54] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[03:54] <ryanakca> Do I bother adding a renewal sticker? (one that has 6-10 on it?)
[03:54] <ryanakca> ty
[03:55] <ryanakca> kindof like http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/jpglps/CN_ON_GI8_1990's-today.jpg       (in the top right corner)
[04:01] <ryanakca> ?
[04:02] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: did imbrandon ask you to teach this afternoon's course? 
[04:02] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: sorry?
[04:02] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: what's on this afternoon, and what's the course?
[04:02] <Hobbsee> and does it involve playign in python?
[04:03] <ryanakca> in #ubuntu-classroom ... he said he'd ask you to paste his notes in the channel this afternoon since he wouldn't be able to make it... it's about KMail
[04:07] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: he said nothing to me about it
[04:08] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: kk
[04:08] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: so should I add a renewal sticker to the plate?
[04:09] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: got no idea. Riddell is around though
[04:09] <ryanakca> kk
[04:26] <ryanakca> Riddell: ping
[04:29] <Riddell> hi ryanakca 
[04:36] <ryanakca> Riddell: mind giving me your opinion on that idea I described above? (the renewal sticker)
[04:38] <ryanakca> bbl
[05:05] <sebas> HELP!
[05:05] <sebas> After the update I did 10 minutes ago, my input is totally freaking out
[05:06] <sebas> pressing the control key opens konsole and does a right mouse button action.
[05:06] <sebas> ALT behaves weird, too.
[05:07] <sebas> NumLock mutes the mixer (and does what it's supposed to do)
[05:24] <Sime> sebas: Happy birthday!
[05:37] <sebas> Sime: Thanks :-)
[05:37] <n8k99> imbrandon: have you used a projector with your iBook?
[05:37] <sebas> As to the input issue: I've learnt that cleaning the keyboard with a wet towel and dist-upgrading at the same time can confuse the reason for weirdness.
[05:47] <bddebian> Howdy
[05:48] <Jucato> hi bddebian
[05:48] <Jucato> sebas: happy birthday! you have the same birthday as KDE? 
[05:49] <bddebian> Hello Jucato
[05:59] <sebas> Jucato: Yeah, it's Kugler Desktop Environment :-)
[05:59] <Jucato> heh how nice :)
[06:09] <mhb> sebas: there's only one thing to say: happy birthday! :o)
[06:16] <sebas> thx :)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Hi
[07:02] <ryanakca> happy birthday sebas
[07:13] <ryanakca> imbrandon: ping
[07:20] <Sime> sebas: hey, I was just wondering. What kind of computer did you have back in the good ol' days? (80s, 90s)
[07:31] <Sime> Hawkwind: and it boots in 3 seconds... whoohoo!
[07:34] <Hawkwind> Heh
[07:34] <Hawkwind> I just need to get some games for it though.  I don't have many currently
[07:34] <mhb> Sime: good proposal for edgy+1 .o)
[07:38] <nixternal> hiya DaSkreech!
[07:38] <imbrandon> ryanakca, pong
[07:39] <imbrandon> mhb, which one ?
[07:40] <mhb> imbrandon: boot edgy+1 in 3 seconds ... I wish
[08:18] <ryanakca> Riddell: should I add a sticker type thing with "6-10" on it? (Something like the one in the top right corner of http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/jpglps/CN_ON_GI8_1990's-today.jpg  )
[09:02] <Hawkwind> ryanakca: That URL is a 404 error
[09:02] <ryanakca> Hawkwind: sure? works here...
[09:03] <Hawkwind> Page not found
[09:03] <Hawkwind> The page you requested was not found on this web server. This could be for a variety of reasons, including:
[09:04] <ryanakca> odd
[09:05] <ryanakca> Hawkwind: http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/world/CN_ONTA.html
[09:05] <ryanakca> try that
[09:05] <Hawkwind> That works
[09:06] <Hawkwind> I think the sticker might be a good idea.  Atleast one with and one without
[09:13] <ryanakca> kk
[09:15] <ryanakca> Hawkwind: what color d'you think?
[09:17] <Hawkwind> ryanakca: I'd stick with the K colors and use a dark blue with a white text possibly
[09:21] <sleon> hi, is it intenet that /etc/cups/client.conf is ignored?
[09:21] <sleon> or is it a bug in cupsys-client package?
[09:22] <sleon> it is not possible to bind this kubuntu box to a remote cups server
[09:28] <ryanakca> Hawkwind: top or bottom right or left?
[09:29] <Hawkwind> ryanakca: I'd say top right probably
[09:30] <ryanakca> hmm..
[09:47] <fdoving> was the borken guidance modules fixed? 
[09:47] <fdoving> it still doesn't work for me.
[09:48] <fdoving> the display module does not work in systemsettings, even though running 'displayconfig' works.
[11:21] <marseillai> a question : is it normal to have many problems with french translation in edgy?
[11:22] <marseillai> for example amarok is a 0% translate
[11:26] <jdong> Riddell, imbrandon: ping
[11:29] <jdong> Tonio_: ping, too :) ^^
[11:35] <jdong> Riddell, imbrandon, Tonio_: look at bug 66169 when you get a chance. Hopefully it's not too late. terribly sorry I didn't notice it earlier... /me no got ppc
[11:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 66169 in ktorrent "FTBFS: ktorrent 2.0.3 on ppc" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/66169
[11:45] <jdong> Tonio___: which tonio_ is actually tonio__, Tonio___?
[11:45] <jdong> lol
[12:06] <fdoving> nite all.