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draikwizard, link?12:12
wizarddraik: it says to put this command in but the nvidia installer reports "invalid option for -r"12:12
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wizardhttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy12:12
wizardahh12:12
wizarddraik: its worknig now, i removed the line the guide said to use12:12
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draikYoure using breezy?12:13
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wizarddraik: no no12:14
wizardi was using the guide to kinda give a feel at it12:14
draikoic12:14
draikkew12:14
draikSorry for the run-around wizard12:14
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wizardi don't see why its so hard to make nvidia drivers wrok on kubuntu12:14
DaSkreechOK Gotta go12:15
flaccidwhoever packaged mythtv for ubuntu sux!!12:15
DaSkreechMidMark: Ah Forget it just get audacity12:16
DaSkreechflaccid: Write to them12:16
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flaccidi don't who did it12:16
LjLwhoever packaged mythtv worked for you for free, so you should bear a little respect even if you don't like how they packaged it >:12:17
DaSkreechMatt Zimmerman12:17
flaccidLjL: i never employed them12:18
DaSkreechflaccid: Well you can apply to fire them12:18
flaccidwhy would i want to do that?12:18
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flaccidi just want them to fix the installation script errors12:18
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DaSkreechMidMark: oh good lord that was hard to find12:19
wizardUHHHG12:19
DaSkreechhttp://arstechnica.com/guides/tweaks/linux-audio.ars/112:19
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LjLflaccid: then what you want is probably to file a bug...12:19
LjL!bug12:19
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/12:19
wizardif kubuntu can't handle something as easy as nvidia driverrs im gonna go back to suse12:19
francoisi'm messing with nvidia drivers too12:19
francoisits hard12:19
francoisi have no idea to get er done12:19
DaSkreechwizard: Again It's a pretty easy install We just need to figure out what happened in your case :)12:19
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flaccidi have one person telling to file a bug and one person telling me to contact the author12:19
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DaSkreechflaccid: I didn't know what your issue was :)12:20
LjLwizard: i didn't have much of a problem with my nvidia drivers.12:20
LjL!nvidia12:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:20
DaSkreechflaccid: In any case they amount to the same thing :)12:20
wizardnow its not even loading with nv12:20
felixjetcan i kill "artsd" process or its system needed?12:20
wizardshouldn't there be mroe than just 2 lines under device in my xorg.conf file?12:21
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flaccidits a matter of procedure12:21
flaccidits already up there12:21
flaccidhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/4133912:21
wizard!nvidia12:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:21
felixjet!artsd12:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about artsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:22
felixjetcan i kill "artsd" process or its system needed?12:22
LjLfelixjet: it's the KDE sound daemon12:22
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felixjetdamn12:22
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felixjetit consume lot of ram and swap12:22
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felixjetVm = Swap12:23
felixjetRss = Ram12:23
felixjetright?12:23
wizardgreaaat12:23
wizardxorg.confg wont load even with nv drivers now12:23
draikAnyone here close to San Antonio, Texas, US?12:23
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felixjetVm = Swap - Rss = Ram . << is this right?12:23
LjLfelixjet: no, not right.12:24
wizarddraik: i can't even laod into nv drivers now12:24
felixjetLjL: then explain me please12:24
LjLfelixjet: the stuff that's shown when you do "ps" or "top" or similar is falsified, in that it includes the memory usage of shared libraries and such stuff.12:24
draikwizard, did you load the new drivers from nvidia?12:25
wizarddraik: yup12:25
felixjet:S12:25
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felixjetartsd Vm = 1.251.14012:25
draikswitch to "nvidia" now] 12:25
felixjetthis is too much !12:25
LjLfelixjet: look here for instance http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html (just first hit on google)12:25
adI ve just downloaded gaim. How can I know where it has been installed ?12:26
LjLfelixjet: it does sound a bit like too much. which program gave you that figure?12:26
wizarddraik: got the nvidia drivers back installed again12:26
LjLad: dpkg -L gaim12:26
wizarddraik: and it looks like it can switch runlevels now12:26
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wizarddraik: if it can restart12:27
wizarddriwe're all good12:27
adLintsi:12:27
wizarddraik: and its doing it!12:27
felixjetLjL: what? i didnt understand you12:27
draikwizard, is it all good now?12:27
wizarddraik: ALRIGHT I FIXED IT!!  *does a dance*12:27
LjLfelixjet: what program/command did you use to obtain that number?12:27
adLjL: thx12:27
wizarddraik: eeegash... gonna punch kubuntu in the head there for second all like BAM "what now?!?!"12:27
wizarddraik: lol..12:28
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wizarddraik: i am good now though as long as i can switch inits and reboot cos i DO change to different OS's regularly.12:28
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wizarddraik: got 6 HDD's all sporting a different linux12:28
felixjetLjL: the one like the windows taskbar12:28
felixjetProcessTable12:28
LjL... which is not a taskbar, but anyway12:29
draikwizard, nice! I wish to one day be that linux saavy12:29
wizardhow can i change the resolution on the kubuntu login screen?12:29
LjLand that's the vmSize figure?12:29
wizardi can't seme to find it12:29
felixjeton artsd? 11850412:29
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felixjetKSysGuard is the program i use12:30
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wizardanyone got a guide for that? how to change the default resolution of the kubuntu login?12:31
felixjetLjL: it isnt too much resources?12:33
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memikepi use gnomes desktop manager. i find its easier to customize12:34
wizardwhenever i open a konq window in my homefolder it gives me an error "could not fined tree :///home internal error"12:34
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wizardit gives me the error WHENEVER i open a konq window which is jut annoying.12:35
LjLfelixjet: it's 5 times more than what i have. dunno if it would be "too much" -- anyway, i was asking about the 1.251.140 figure12:35
wizard"could not fine parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error."12:36
felixjeti go restart pc12:36
felixjetand check the resources12:36
felixjetsince i didnt restart in days12:36
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adLjL: it lists the packages for Gaim but how to know what is the file to launch ?12:37
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LjLad: just type "gaim"12:39
LjLad: anyway, the executable files will usually be the ones in the /usr/bin directory12:39
adok thanks ... And how to add it in the k menu ?12:39
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CVirus!mp312:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:40
LjLad: right click on the menu, "Menu editor", and add /usr/bin/gaim as an entry. but it should already be there anyway -- if it isn't, try restarting KDE and seeing if it appears.12:41
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adLjL:  ok thanks I add it in the menu ... thanks :)12:44
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Max_-When Flash installer asks for path where mozilla/opera is installed.. if I use firefox.. what do I say? tried /usr/lib/firefox.. but well installation didn't work.. so I guess I was wrong... thx12:45
felixjetLjL:  lol i reboot pc and now artd consume 22k and 16k12:46
felixjetinstead of 1.2m and 122k12:46
felixjetXD12:46
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LjLfelixjet: aRts should be deprecated as soon as possible12:48
LjLit's buggy12:48
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adWhere most icons of programs are located ? It seems there are all in the k menu editor ...12:50
Hawkwindad: /usr/share/icons ?12:52
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adHawkwind: thanks but no ...12:53
adLjL: do you know that ?12:53
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hazard2*testing*12:54
=== hazard2 my my my you guys are useful for testing.
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livingdaylightanyone use kopete as irc client?12:55
hazard2I am at the moment.12:55
livingdaylighthazard2: kewl...12:56
Hawkwindad: Icons are in /usr/share/icons12:56
hazard2and if I randomly disconnect, then that means this machine has crashed....again...12:56
livingdaylighthazard2: i've set up irc account with kopete but i can't seem to access it. how do i open the irc function of kopete?12:56
hazard2I haven't any idea in the faintest.12:57
LjLad: /usr/share/pixmaps i think12:57
LjLmostly12:57
livingdaylighthazard2: did you say you use kopete?12:57
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hazard2Wait-no, I lied.12:57
hazard2This is Konversation sorry.12:57
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hazard2I remember using Kopte once though.12:57
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adI just wonder where kmenu editor look for them12:58
livingdaylightAnyone here use Kopete -not konversation -Kopete as irc client?12:58
LjLhopefully not :P12:58
hazard2I said I was sorry...12:58
livingdaylighti've setup an irc account with Kopete but can't open it12:58
hazard2Stupid question: How do I change my password?12:58
LjLad: well, i don't really know what's the place it looks at by default.12:59
LjLhazard2: man passwd12:59
hazard2You know, today just isn't my day.12:59
hazard2(for intelligent thinking that is)12:59
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adHawkwind: ok thanks01:00
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RogueJediXHey. Can anyone here play x264 encoded video files properly?01:01
hazard2I can.01:01
hazard2(provided they aren't of a completly ubsurd resolution)01:02
RogueJediXCool. What player do you use? I've tried KMPlayer and Kaffeine and both seem to have a heart attack when I attempt to play those files01:02
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hazard2the mplayer binary compiled from source /w x264's header files (also compiled from source)01:03
hazard2at least that works best01:03
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hazard2for me anyway, on my other systems I just use VLC01:03
RogueJediXHm. I guess that's worth a shot01:03
hazard2(which introduces some extra CPU overhead)01:04
felixjet!ascii01:04
ubotuascii: interactive ASCII name and synonym chart. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB01:04
felixjethow can i type ascii ?01:04
hazard2you just did.01:04
RogueJediXhazard2: 1.2 GHz with 256 MB RAM is enough, right?01:04
hazard2should be01:04
felixjetinstallaing ascii?01:04
hazard2I got a 600mhz duron to play them acceptably01:04
RogueJediXhazard2: Thanks. I'll try doing what you did.01:05
hazard2but you might have issues if you're trying to do anything else (b/c of swapping to/from memory)01:05
RogueJediXSo, I should only have mplayer running?01:05
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hazard2since you've only got 256 ram (the afore mentioned duron had a very basic system running, 512 ram, and _HEAVY_ optimization on a hardware and software level)01:06
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hazard2You could try doing other stuff, but I don't know how well it'd work (but it wouldn't kill you to try)01:06
RogueJediXAh, I see. Dammit, I need a better rig01:06
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hazard2Hah!01:06
RogueJediXOther stuff?01:06
hazard2if I had that system I'd be sooo happy.01:06
hazard2Like I dunno, being on line browsing or whatever01:07
RogueJediXOh, right, right. Sorry, didn't read that in context01:07
hazard2if you're using it JUST to play the movie then you should be fine (as long as you're not encoding video or something in the background)01:07
hazard2especially if you build your own binary01:07
hazard2Which amusingly enough is what I'm doing at the moment...01:07
RogueJediXI know next to squat about encoding anyway, so...01:08
hazard2Its not that hard.01:08
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felixjetwhat win version emulate wine ? 2000 ?01:08
hazard2with mplayer, playing and encoding are JUST about the same thing, until you get into nit-picky codec/encoder options.01:08
RogueJediXI once attempted to reencode x264 into xvid. Midway I realised I didn't know what the hell I was doing01:09
hazard2heh, I usually hit that stage during whatever I'm doing...01:09
RogueJediXEr, attempted to reencode a x264 VIDEO FILE into xvid01:10
hazard2Its really bad when I'm working on something, then somewhere in the middle of it, I realize I forgot what the original goal was.01:10
hazard2I know what you meant.01:10
RogueJediXJust being my pedantic self01:10
hazard2Hmm...01:11
hazard2well I've just hit a new record of uptime on this machine01:11
hazard2(its been running for 30 minutes) without crashing...01:11
max_im very new at IRC chat, im trying to get help in the ##linux room, how to i register a nickname so i can talk?01:11
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RogueJediXmax_: /msg nickserv register <username> <e-mail>01:12
hazard2So maybe it can't handle 512 mb ram? Or maybe, this other module (in a pile of other identical modules now) is bad....01:12
max_thank you01:12
coreymon77wait01:12
coreymon77also01:12
coreymon77you dont need an email01:12
coreymon77just a password01:12
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RogueJediXWhoops, thanks coreymon7701:12
max_so its /msg nickserv register <username> >pass>?01:12
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coreymon77yup01:12
max_<pass>*01:12
max_thank you01:12
coreymon77but why use the linux channel01:13
coreymon77isnt the kubuntu channel good enough01:13
hazard2Bah! How do you remove an entry for something in the control panel?01:13
RogueJediXhazard2: Your machine crashes a lot?01:13
hazard2I removed all the bluetooth stuff, but the icon is still there.01:13
hazard2This one yes...01:13
max_yes, but when i ask for help people yell at me01:13
max_and say go to the ## linux one01:13
max_##linux*01:13
hazard2What's the problem?01:13
coreymon77???01:13
RogueJediXI hate that kind of attitude01:13
coreymon77are you using kubuntu?01:14
hazard2me too.01:14
max_yes01:14
coreymon77so why are people here not helping him?01:14
max_iono01:14
RogueJediXBeats me01:14
hazard2I haven't read him ask a question01:14
coreymon77go on max01:14
max_im trying to unpack a .7z archive, i have p7zip to do it....i do 7z e <filename.7z> in a teminal and i keep getting errors, i know it isnt a corrputed archive because ive tried on multiple archives01:15
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john__anyone get Photoshop CS2 working on kubuntu01:15
RogueJediXmax_: Try 7z x etc etc01:15
T3hWiz0rdblah.01:15
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T3hWiz0rdany preformance options for suse?01:15
T3hWiz0rdi mean kubuntu lol01:15
T3hWiz0rdmixing distros up01:15
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rojikaruDistros as in distro watch?01:16
RogueJediXhazard2: How come the rig you're using crashes so much?01:16
hazard2I remember the 7zip decompressor was a pain.01:16
hazard2Because its a pile of random parts with dubious origins.01:16
coreymon77no there arent any perfomance options for suse, suse has no performance anyways! :P01:16
hazard2And all i've got is ULTRACHEAPO(tm) ram.01:16
coreymon77thats a real company name?01:17
hazard2(and the fact that its got a SiS chipset probably has something to do with it)01:17
hazard2no, it was a joke.01:17
coreymon77ULTRACHEAPO01:17
hazard2:P01:17
coreymon77oh01:17
coreymon77okay01:17
RogueJediXDibs on the company name01:17
hazard2heh01:17
coreymon77lol01:17
hazard2I've used that term for years.01:17
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coreymon77well atleast you dont have rd ram01:18
max_Rogue: i tried that line and i get the same error as extracting somthing "01:18
max_Error:01:18
max_there is no such archive01:18
hazard2For stuff from wal-mart, and anything else not actually worth buying (that somehow I end up with anyway)01:18
RogueJediXWell mine's even more dubious. Last couple of times I shut I down (not a common occurence) it went into a bootup loop01:18
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hazard2No, I've got a machine with RDRAM.01:18
coreymon77that is one of the stupidest ram types out there01:18
hazard2One of the older ones that still needs parity.01:18
livingdaylightAnyone here use Kopete -not konversation -Kopete as irc client?01:18
coreymon77same01:18
RogueJediXHad to reset the bios both times01:18
coreymon77not me01:18
coreymon77the pairing thing is just a pain in the ass01:18
hazard2Indeed.01:18
T3hWiz0rdanyone in here have a quickcam fusion working with kubuntu?01:18
T3hWiz0rdor know how to install uvc?01:19
T3hWiz0rd!uvc01:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uvc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:19
livingdaylighti've setup an irc account with Kopete but can't open it01:19
hazard2Rouge: I've got a machine that sometimes on startup says it has a 133mhz CPU (rather than the 300mhz chip it DOES have)01:19
RogueJediXHeh, computers is strange people01:19
hazard2Of course, that machine (with its 14 drives+cdrom, and non-ATX power supply powering an ATX system) has some excuses.)01:20
hazard2It also still runs winders (because getting linux to correctly use all those drive controllers would be a nightmare for me)01:20
max_is there another program besides p7zip to unpack 7z's?01:21
hazard2there's a windows one that I *KNOW* works.01:21
RogueJediXmax_: You could try 7zip and wine01:21
hazard2yea, that would be it.01:21
hazard2Ok...01:21
hazard2I just changed the system hostname, now sudo dosen't work, is there anything I can do without restarting?01:21
livingdaylightunfortunately there is no documentation for kopete01:21
livingdaylightAnyone use it or know how to setup the irc functionof kopete?01:22
RogueJediXI THINK you can do something with visudo01:22
hazard2meaning....?01:22
max_7zip is the windows version of p7zip isnt it01:22
max_and what is wine01:22
hazard2I remember the time I deleted the sudo command...01:22
RogueJediXMeaning it opens up the sudo config thingy and you can try messing around with that01:23
hazard2max_: wine is the windows emulator-dodad for linux that lets you run windows programs01:23
hazard2or something like that01:23
RogueJediXmax_: Well, somewhat. 7zip has an interface, p7zip is command line. As for wine, it tries to run windows apps on linux for you01:23
max_how do i get wine01:24
hazard2I'd have to sudo to get to edit the sudoers file01:24
max_(is a linux noob)01:24
RogueJediXmax_: sudo apt-get install wine01:24
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RogueJediXOh, right. That aspect slipped my mind01:24
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hazard2This REALLY reminds me of the time I deleted the sudo command now...01:24
hazard2I'm gunna restart (hopefully things'll get better not worse)01:25
RogueJediXWell, at least you didn't try Kororaa (Gentoo derivative) without reading some docs01:25
hazard2Usually I use straight debian, without a GUI01:25
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hazard2the whole GUI thing is new.01:26
hazard2(and I don't really like it, it makes it all slow and complicated)01:26
adHow to make a link to a folder with gui ?01:26
RogueJediXas: ln -s etc etc01:26
hazard2yup yup01:27
RogueJediXOh, WITH GUI? Right clicking should do something, I suppose01:27
hazard2I'd just use terminal.01:27
hazard2Its faster for me.01:27
RogueJediXDitto. Is faster01:27
RogueJediXI wuv my Yakuake01:27
hazard2?!@01:27
RogueJediXIt's a drop-down console for KDE01:27
hazard2oh...01:28
adI got url, apps and device only but not folder01:28
T3hWiz0rdhas anyone in here got a uvc-based cam to work?01:28
hazard2I'll be back01:28
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RogueJediX...Schwarzenegger said.01:29
max_rouge: what do i do now that Wine is installed?01:29
RogueJediXmax_: Get the 7zip installer for winblows01:29
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max_lol01:30
RogueJediXAlso, it's rogue, not rouge :P01:30
ricanelitewhen is new version of Edgy Eft coming out?01:30
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max_sorry01:31
RogueJediXNo prob01:31
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ricaneliteIve read somewhere on a site that Firefox is coming out with a new version?? Is that true?01:31
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hazard_I have no idea.01:32
RogueJediXricanelite: Not a new version, but a fork. It's called (yech) IceWeasel01:32
max_ricanelite: edgys final relase is 26th of this month01:32
hazard_Lets see if this is the crashy-memory module....01:32
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hazard_(or if the chipset just can't count)01:32
RogueJediXricanelite: It's Firefox with 2 security updates and no proprietary icons01:33
ricanelitenow, edgys when that is release we will just get a update! and thats it?01:33
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ricaneliteahh so it is not a hole new browser then right01:33
RogueJediXHardly01:33
ricanelitelike the update of Ubuntu Linux 6 LTS?01:33
ricanelitegot you01:33
max_anyone run Firefox 2.0?01:34
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georgebHi. I repartitioned my hdd, and I have some problems; I belive they are happening because I created another partition for /var and /var/run /var/lock should be created before /var is mounted; do you have any ideea ?01:34
RogueJediXNah. I'm one of those nuts that uses Konqueror for browsing01:34
ricaneliteIs there anyone here that knows of a Application that is like Wine but could run Mac OS X Application, Like wine does with Windows Applications?01:34
max_RoguejediX: now that i have the win installer how do i run it?01:35
Hawkwindmax_: Are you installing it on Dapper ?01:35
RogueJediXmax_: wine <filename.exe> and hope for the best01:35
max_thank you01:35
hazard2ricanelite: that's a bit more complicated, if its not a universal binary, then you'd need to emulate the PPC processor *AND* the OSX environment.01:35
max_Hawkwind: yes, i run the current version of Kubuntu01:36
hazard2if it IS a universal binary, then you could feasibly just get the source code, and hope it compiles on not-OSX01:36
RogueJediXHey, hazard. What options should I use with x264 configure?01:36
Hawkwindmax_: Nevermind, you're using firefox 2.0 with wine01:36
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hazard2I just leave it alone01:36
hazard2and let it install to /usr/local/[whatever] 01:36
Hawkwindmax_: I thought you were installing firefox 2.0 natively in Dapper, which isn't a real good idea01:36
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RogueJediXOkie, thanks01:37
max_i dont run 2.001:37
max_i use 1.501:37
hazard2mplayer (except on my macs, because they have weird file strucutres to begin with) I leave alone also01:37
RogueJediXHawkwind: He's trying to get 7zip to work in Dapper01:37
hazard2But-that's...just...complicated.01:37
hazard2and makes compiling things on linux brainless01:37
Schuenemannhi, has anybody downloaded and burned the kubuntu 6.06-dekstop ISO?01:37
ricanelitehazard you have a Mac?01:37
max_i couldt find the 2.0 installer after i made the switch from win98 to kubuntu01:37
hazard2several01:38
hazard2older ones01:38
ricanelitereally, you have Ubuntu Linux on them?01:38
hazard2Nope.01:38
hazard2they run OSX01:38
hazard2But windows is annoying so I try to not use it.01:38
HawkwindRogueJediX: sudo apt-get install p7zip  ??01:39
ricaneliteoh okay, I have a Mac mini with a G4 and I'm running Ubuntu Linux on it which i made Ubuntu my main OS01:39
max_RoguejediX: i tried it and i got this01:39
max_Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.01:39
max_Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly01:39
RogueJediXHawkwind: He has it already, but it's giving him lip01:39
ricanelitethis is offically my third day using Ubuntu Linux01:39
Schuenemannricanelite, did you get kubuntu?01:40
v3ctorp7zip works fine in dapper01:40
ricaneliteYes01:40
hazard2Wow, good for you!01:40
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max_i cant get p7zip to work01:40
hazard2I woudln't try that, as I know I'd bork SOMETHING up, and end up with no computer for a week.01:40
ricaneliteYeah, thank you. I'm confuse though with the hole new operating system and terminal work on it01:40
Hawkwindmax_: Describe in details your errors....paste them to http://pastebin.ulteo.us if more than 2 lines long01:40
hazard2max_: can you boot windows and have it decomperess it for you?01:40
SchuenemannI have just downloaded kubuntu and the md5sum was ok, but after burning the ISO, the media did not pass the test01:40
hazard2Bad CD?01:41
ricaneliteYeah I was about to say that01:41
SchuenemannI guess so01:41
max_i dont have a machine with win anymore01:41
Hawkwindmax_: What is it you are wanting to unzip ??01:41
max_a .7z archive01:41
SchuenemannI was checking if the ISO was ok01:41
ricanelitewith me Ubuntu sent me the cds. I had to wait a couple of weeks but it has been worth it so far.01:41
Hawkwindmax_: Please paste any errors to http://pastebin.ulteo.us01:41
Schuenemannricanelite, you were about to say what/01:41
ricanelitethat you might have a Bad CD01:41
hazard2The "bad cd"01:42
Schuenemannahh...01:42
SchuenemannOk, I'll try burning again01:42
RogueJediXWhee, x264 compiled. On to mplayer01:42
max_hawkwind: ok i did01:42
Schuenemannby the way, I have ubuntu 5.10 from shipit... can I get kubuntu 6.06 from it?01:42
Schuenemannthrough apt-get01:43
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ricaneliteyou have a mac Schuenemann/01:43
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adWhy my chown does not apply on a file ?01:43
Hawkwindmax_: You have to give us the resulting URL please01:43
Schuenemannno, intel x8601:43
max_oooooh01:43
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max_hang on01:43
ricaneliteahh okay01:43
Hawkwindad: What command did you do ?01:43
hazard2make sure that mplayer finds the header (I've had issues with that before)01:43
ricanelitethis is going to be your first time using Linux??/01:43
max_http://pastebin.ulteo.us/16101:43
adsudo chown ad  "/home/ad/Desktop/Mes documents"01:43
Schuenemannno... I have tested red hat, mandrake, suse, kurumin and ubuntu before :)01:43
jmorenoHi01:43
hazard2jedi: x264 needs nasm (if you don't already have it)01:44
hazard2hi 'reno01:44
Hawkwindad: That's incorrect01:44
ad?01:44
ricanelitedoes anyone know is flash out for Ubuntu PPC??01:44
Hawkwindmax_: What command did you run exactly that gave you those errors ?01:44
v3ctormax_: why are you using wine to run p7zip?01:44
adHawkwind:  what is incorrect ?01:44
Hawkwindad: You need a user:group  sudo chown ad:ad "/blah/blah"01:44
hazard2v3ctor: he wouldn't get it to dcompress using the unix command line util01:45
max_i ran root@max-desktop:/home/max/Desktop# wine 7z442.exe01:45
Hawkwindmax_: Forget about wine01:45
RogueJediXI think I have it, yeah. I think I installed it when compiling some game I oogled over at happypenguin01:45
max_ok01:45
v3ctorhazard2: i know...he has been working on this for days01:45
Hawkwindmax_: You need to install p7zip natively in Kubuntu01:45
max_how do i do that01:45
hazard2Ahhh....I see...01:45
Hawkwindmax_: sudo apt-get install p7zip01:45
v3ctorit is most likely a corrupt 7z file01:45
jmorenothere is a smp kernel for x86 in edgy? I have a Turion64 x2... i can't get the two cpus running..01:45
hazard2At least he's trying hard.01:45
max_its not corrupt01:45
Hawkwind!info p7zip01:45
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ubotup7zip: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.30.dfsg-1 (dapper), package size 1413 kB, installed size 3784 kB01:45
max_ive tried many archives01:45
hazard2Persistance was the word I was looking for.01:45
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Hawkwindmax_: You need to make sure you have universe enabled in your sources.list01:46
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v3ctorunix_infidel: ark01:46
Hawkwindunix_infidel: It has one already01:46
max_how do it check to see if its enabled01:46
HawkwindUse the tools the distro gives you01:46
RogueJediXWell, there's Ark and FileRoller, but Ark definitely needs more options01:46
Hawkwindmax_: Just type:  sudo apt-get install p7zip01:46
v3ctorark will create and open .7z archives01:46
max_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded01:46
v3ctorHawkwind: he already has it01:47
max_you said thast v3ctor, i dont know what ark your using, but mine wont01:47
Hawkwindmax_: dpkg -l p7zip01:47
v3ctorwe installed it the other day01:47
RogueJediXYeah, but I can't select the compression ratio. The default is 5 and I usually use 701:47
Hawkwindv3ctor: Ah ok.  Then help him finish the project please :)01:47
v3ctorlol01:47
Schuenemannthanks, I'll try another CD... bye01:47
T3hWiz0rdanyone?01:47
T3hWiz0rd#quickcam01:47
T3hWiz0rdon that?01:48
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v3ctor7za e <watever it is called>.7z01:48
max_Hawkwind: what was the dpkg -l p7zip suspose to do01:48
T3hWiz0rdwtf how'd i hit a number sign?01:48
hazard2with a hammer?01:48
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v3ctormax_: it will show the status of the pkg01:48
deamonsalve ragazzi01:48
deamonconoscete01:48
deamonsorry01:48
T3hWiz0rdI've got a fusion that i know has rocky support with linux, needs the cvs uvc drivers. Got them installed, can see cam feedback on kopete but its only black and white, very dark, and very off scale.01:48
adHawkwind: why must I change the group in i just want to change the owner ?01:48
hazard2sigh...mplayer compiles and aborts with some random familiar errors...01:48
Hawkwindmax_: It will tell you if p7zip is installed on Kubuntu or not01:48
max_it  is01:49
Hawkwindad: You don't have to *change* it, you need to supply the argument01:49
Hawkwindmax_: Are you sure ?01:49
RogueJediXhazard2: Think it's contagious? I'm about to run make.01:49
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max_it says it is01:49
hazard2RogueJediX: I'd hope not.01:49
Hawkwindmax_: Now use it to unzip the file you want01:49
v3ctormax_: 7za e <watever it is called>.7z01:49
max_i cant01:50
max_errors01:50
v3ctorwhy not?01:50
v3ctorshow errors01:50
v3ctorpastebin01:50
max_Error: <filename> is not supported archive01:50
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v3ctorplease use actual filename01:51
max_Error: CB3.7z is not supported archive01:51
v3ctorok: file CB3.7z01:51
hazard2Jedi: install libaa1 and libaa1-dev, its fun to play with (in conjunction with mplayer)01:51
cpk2max_: did you get p7zip?01:51
v3ctorcpk2: he has it01:51
max_yes01:51
adHawkwind: it did not work01:51
hazard2watching stuff in ASCII has a certian geeky factor asccoated with it.01:51
v3ctormax_: file CB3.7z01:51
adowner is still roo :\01:51
v3ctorrun that please01:52
ad*root01:52
max_CB3.7z: empty01:53
v3ctorsee corrupt archive01:53
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T3hWiz0rdif i want to join kubuntu to a windows smb domain01:53
max_ive tried on other archives though01:53
T3hWiz0rdhow do I do it so I can log in with smb users?01:54
max_i have mroe Dling now to test01:54
v3ctormax_: should say something like: p7zip-test.7z: 7-zip archive data, version 0.201:54
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RogueJediXhazard2: Way ahead of you. Already included it and libcaca too01:54
v3ctormax_: how are you doanloading them?01:54
v3ctordownloading* even01:54
max_firefox01:55
hazard2what's that other one?01:55
RogueJediXSame as aa, only in color01:55
hazard2Ahh....01:55
hazard2I knew there was one, but I couldn't ever find it.01:55
Hawkwindmax_: How big is the file ?01:55
max_104mb01:55
Hawkwindmax_: use wget http://url-here  from a terminal to download it01:56
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max_i have another 7z almost done, ill just try to use it, its at 90%01:56
HawkwindAre you downloading it with firefox too ?01:57
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max_no01:58
hazard2You know, it seems that my System ONLY crashes when it has 512Ram....01:58
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hazard2because I've put my 256meg chips though EXTENSIVE testing, and NOTHING is wrong with any of them.01:59
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RogueJediXIt's voodoo, swear to god.01:59
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hazard2Its a Vaio.01:59
hazard2Swearing to god isn't neccessary.01:59
adIn my hda2 vfat I have square instead eacute01:59
adHow to solve it ?02:00
hazard2well, what are you talking about exactly?02:00
RogueJediXIsn't there a Vaio specific panel in KDE's Control Panel?02:00
hazard2Not that appears to do anything.02:00
hazard2I think its meant for Vaio laptops, this is a minitower.02:01
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ad is a square02:01
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RogueJediXAt the risk of sounding ignorant, I thought Vaios were laptops only?02:01
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hazard2vfat won't display those chars right.02:01
adis this because the fstab option is set to default ?02:01
hazard2Nope, they aren't.02:01
hazard2Look up a PCV-LX70002:01
adhazard2:  do you mean there is no solution ?02:02
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hazard2change the drive from VFAT to something not-VFAT (like ext3 or something)02:02
hazard2Or don't use extended characters.02:03
adit is windows !02:03
hazard2Oh...02:03
adI must use fat3202:03
hazard2then Don't use extended characters.02:03
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hazard2You could use NTfs.02:03
adI m french i need it :)02:03
hazard2I think it supports extended chars.02:03
adlinux write ntfs ??02:03
hazard2(but then linux couldn't write to the drive)02:03
hazard2Nope.02:03
adthat s a problem ...02:04
hazard2Indeed.02:04
adNo fix ?02:04
hazard2I guess you're stuck with boxes.02:04
hazard2Windows XP?02:04
adFAT 32 = no extended char ?02:04
RogueJediXOh, yeah. I've been meaning to ask this. Is NTFS write support in edgy or will it be in the next version?02:04
adyes xp02:04
hazard2I'm pretty sure NTFS write support is still highly 'experiemental' and doing excessive writing currupts the drive.02:04
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hazard2ad: I'm pretty sure that fat32 won't take extended chars correctly.02:05
RogueJediXWhat about this? http://www.linux-ntfs.org/02:05
adFor all linux ?02:05
mandoi am desperate02:05
mandoi have a major problem02:05
RogueJediXGot a newsfeed about it a few months back saying that it should work with it02:05
mandook yesterday i installed kubuntu and had some problems with it.. so i formated the kubuntu partition02:06
ryanakcaWhat's the kubuntu motto again? Humanity to others or something of the sort?02:06
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mandonow grub doesnt load and i get an error 17.. and i can load windows02:06
hazard2I think that ones still has experiemental write support02:06
v3ctorntfs write support is fairly stable as long you you are not editing exist files...but i still don't recomend it02:06
mandohow can i remove grub and get back to the normal os choice menu02:07
hazard2I hate NTFS02:07
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RogueJediXOkay, just checking02:07
hazard2but for windows is SO much better than Fat3202:07
mandoanyone?02:07
mandoplease i need urgent help02:07
hazard2I recall doing that once.02:07
adI m stucked with this charset ?02:07
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hazard2I MAY or *MAY NOT* have fixed it by overriting GRUB using a windows installer CD's fix MBR command02:08
hazard2But I don't remember02:08
adhazard2:  no solution with any linux dist ?02:08
hazard2it isn't linux, its fat32.02:08
hazard2its just the way it is (being all old and stuff)02:08
mandowhat does mbr do?02:08
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mandoi have a kubuntu live cd and i have a windows bootable cd02:08
hazard2its where GRUB is, it tells the computer where to boot the system02:08
mandoso give me stepwise instructions please02:09
mandoi'm a newbie02:09
mandoand i have to do some work on my computer tomorrrow so i gotta get it ficked now02:09
adhazard2:  why charset is correct under windows ? There should be a solution ... I don't understand ...02:09
mandofixed*02:09
hazard2since you killed kubuntu, part of grub is missing (but the main entry is still in the MBR), SO when the system runs the bit O grub still there, it just suffers a heart attack as it can't find the rest of itself anymore.02:09
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hazard2because windows is 'special' and isn't actually storing the characters ON the drive.02:09
mandook so what shall i do?02:09
hazard2Its likely storing them in some DB file somewhere along with the long filenames (which I don't know if linux acceses correctly)02:10
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hazard2Mando: boot off a winXP cd and get to the recovery console02:10
adhazard2: if it is not on the drive where is it ?02:10
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mandook02:10
hazard2ad: I don't know.02:10
mandoi'm on the recovery console now02:10
hazard2Oh, ok.02:10
mandoand then?02:10
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adfix mbr ?02:11
hazard2umm...fixmbr or maybe its fixboot (they're both commands, but they do slightly diffrent things)02:11
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hazard2I'd try fixmbr I guess.02:11
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mandofixboot writes a new bootsector it says02:11
hazard2Like I said, I don't remember if I was sucessful.02:11
adI d do fixmbr too ..02:11
adand d pray :)02:11
hazard2Sure, why not.02:11
flaccidplug n pray02:12
mandoi dont wanna lose any info on my hard drive02:12
adthis won't02:12
hazard2jedi: there's no end to my bad luck....mplayer is refusing to compi9le now02:12
flaccidthose two commands won't do that02:12
francoisi tried installing beryl and it just crashes when kubuntu loads up, any ideas ?02:12
hazard2You won't.02:12
flaccidberyl02:12
hazard2at worst, this will must murder the rest of GRUB02:12
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flaccid!beryl02:12
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.02:12
hazard2and it still won't work02:12
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flaccidif grub is in boot sector02:12
flaccidor called from boot sector02:12
adGRUB killer !!!02:12
mandoi should run it on the drive where linux was02:13
mando?02:13
hazard2I'm not sure.02:13
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adI think you should do it in the system with windows on02:13
hazard2I'd think you'd need to run it on whatever drive the systembooted from (EG the 'c' drive from the bios's point of view)02:13
flaccidon windows c drive02:13
adstop repeat guys ! :o)02:13
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mandook02:13
flaccidrepeat02:14
hazard2but the windows 'c' drive isn't NECCESSILIRY the drive with the MBR for the system02:14
mandoare you positive this wont cause me any data loss?02:14
adyes02:14
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flaccidc is a partition02:14
hazard2yes, at worst it still won't work though02:14
adjust mbr grub killer02:14
flaccidnot master boot record02:14
hazard2....02:14
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mandombr is master boot record02:14
flacciddo you want grub killer? sorry i came in late02:14
adGRuB R.I.P.02:14
hazard2there is a diffrence between the 'c' drive/partition/whatever02:14
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xtractohello02:15
Subnormalc is not a partition, c is the best language programing of the history02:15
hazard2and the FIRST DRIVE that the bios will try to boot from02:15
mandoyes a grub killer02:15
adSubnormal: lol02:15
mandoi fromated the drive where kubuntu was and i can load windows no02:15
Subnormal:)02:15
flaccidSubnormal: hehe yeah i'm talking in windows terms02:15
hazard2THAT drive is the one with the MBR you need to be concerned with02:15
xtractoI am looking for a way to change how the icons are shown in the main kde pane02:15
Subnormalwas a joke02:15
mandocant*02:15
xtractopanel02:15
flaccidbut you are right02:15
adxtracto: i am too .02:16
xtractoI moved the main kpanel to the right of the screen02:16
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mandoso how can i kill grub and then load windows normally without losing anything on the windows partition?02:16
hazard2who? what? where?02:16
mandoflaccid?02:16
flaccidfixboot02:16
flaccidfixmbr02:16
flaccidreboot02:16
mandook the c drive right?02:16
adI like the way kaella/knoppix is : good layout / icons :)02:16
xtractoand I modified the size to something like 80 pixels02:16
hazard2By overwriting the MBR of the drive to have it relink the bootloader of windows correctly02:16
flaccidthats from booting off windows cd and doing recovery console02:16
xtractobut now the icons are too big02:16
admando I think in 99% C02:16
hazard2fixboot on the primary master drive02:16
flaccidand mounting the cd parition with the RC02:16
RogueJediXGrr. After 20 or so minutes of compiling, mplayer gives me an error and who else would be the cause than x264.c02:17
xtractoI would like to know if there is a way to make it look similar to Windows quicklaunch bar02:17
mandook02:17
adcome on do it ! Kill it !!!02:17
flacciderr selecting the windows c partition to mount in RC02:17
adoops ...02:17
xtractowhere I had some small icons with all the apps I used02:17
T3hWiz0rdhow do you restart apache2 on kubuntu?02:17
mandook doing it02:17
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hazard2Yup, that's my present issue too02:18
flaccidT3hWiz0rd: by cli? sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart02:18
mandocool it seems like it worked!!!02:18
flaccidor sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload02:18
admando We told you !02:18
hazard2except your processor is twice as fast as ming02:18
hazard2e02:18
flaccidhehe02:18
admando : you are a real grub killer :)02:18
xtractoooh well..02:18
flaccidwhy were we killing grub for again?02:18
hazard2chickens like grubs02:19
flaccidand letting windows boot?02:19
ad:)02:19
Domiiiis there a possibility to add for each desktop a different icons on it?02:19
mandoi love u guys lol02:19
hazard2I have no idea *sky turns red*02:19
mandoit worked02:19
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Domiiion kde of course :-)02:19
mandocan't thank you enough02:19
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flaccidhehe02:19
adI just need 10000000$ :)02:19
mandodone lol02:19
adit will be a big thanks :)02:19
hazard2I'd be happy with a NOT-5 year old computer.02:20
flaccidi need $1,000,000,000,000,000M02:20
adJust a beer in fact02:20
RogueJediXI think that's how old mine is02:20
hazard2While we're at it, I'll take 47E8344M02:20
flaccidi'm going to get a beer02:20
adAnd windows boots again and again ...02:20
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hazard2yes, well, ALL mine are that old (even the ones not-made-entirely of junk)02:20
flaccidmando: so why you booting windows?02:20
hazard2to doom us all...duh02:21
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adI boot it too .. Linux is not so easy ...02:21
adBut I try it ...02:21
hazard2I wouldn't say windows is easier...02:21
RogueJediXI have it for games, for when wine and cedega fail02:21
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flacciddualboot w/ grub is good. why no grub?02:21
hazard2have YOU ever had to de-infest a windows box from AOL -AND- spyware at the same time?02:21
flaccidhazard2: yep02:22
qorgrub is touchy-feely... 2 out of 3 boxes made a grub indigestion02:22
hazard2(AND 4 diffrent virus scanners each pointing at the other for being a virus because one of them actually found and quarentined a virus)02:22
adhazard2: when you started with windows it is difficukt with linux02:22
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adcommand line everywhere ...02:22
flaccidhazard2: kill it all. use security task manager.02:22
flaccidcli is good02:23
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RogueJediXDoes anyone here actually have clamav installed, while we're on the topic of AV apps?02:23
hazard2In the instance I had, they kept regenerating.02:23
ricaneliteQuick question guys, When I open up Adept Manager and when I click on "Fetch Updates" it goes all the way to 99% and then stays there02:23
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hazard2and from the CLI it was impossible to find them.02:23
ricanelitewhat is the problem???02:23
T3hWiz0rdwhere does apache store conf file that says the default server path02:23
flaccidbut default kubuntu little need for cli use for normal person02:23
sorush20hi just wanted to know why I can't connect my hardware to ehci usb, everything is connected to the normal ohci? am I making any sence?02:23
flaccidT3hWiz0rd: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf02:23
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Dark_Vampire!de02:24
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:24
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: okay and changing ServerRoot should change the default directory right?02:24
ricaneliteanyone know about that?02:24
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flaccidT3hWiz0rd: you probably want to change DocumentRoot02:24
flaccid?02:25
qorricanelite, one of your sources might be out-of-date, or down for some reason02:25
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: ahh right02:25
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ricaneliteokay, so it is not anything I did then??02:25
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: its not in there02:25
flaccidServerRoot is where binaries etc. are02:25
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qorricanelite, heh, I doubt it :)02:25
flaccidT3hWiz0rd: sudo updatedb && locate httpd.conf02:25
ricaneliteOkay cool, I try again02:25
flaccidyou have apache2 right?02:25
hazard2RogueJediX: you gotten it compile yet?02:25
ricanelitelater...Thanks!!! alot qor02:25
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: i am looking right at httpd.conf02:26
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: its a blank document though02:26
qorricanelite, try to see which url gets stuck02:26
RogueJediXhazard2: Nah, googling around for an answer02:26
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qorwhen it updates.... check which one it is02:26
flaccidT3hWiz0rd: what user did you open it with?02:26
T3hWiz0rdsudo02:26
ricanelitewell it says everything is done and then when it gets to "Waiting for Headers (99%)02:26
hazard2That's a fimilar error to me, I seem to recall doing some things (like trying again and again, and disabling random crap) then it worked.02:26
ricaneliteit just stops there02:26
hazard2Of course, I don't remember what exactly that was.02:26
flaccidoh thats right dif in ubuntu02:27
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hazard2I wonder if I have a working junk DVD drive?02:27
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T3hWiz0rdi think i found it02:28
ricaneliteHaha it worked02:28
qor:)02:28
ricanelitelol it might have been down02:28
ricanelitelol02:28
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flaccidT3hWiz0rd: ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/02:28
ricanelitethanks alot!!!02:28
flaccidchange the symlink for default02:28
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qorshure thang02:28
flaccidT3hWiz0rd: or change /etc/apache2/apache2.conf02:29
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: alrigt i got it02:30
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: i also have a .htaccess file in there02:30
flaccidsome people agree with this model, some don't02:30
T3hWiz0rdhow do i configure that again btw?02:30
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: i need to path it to the htpasswd2 file02:30
flaccidT3hWiz0rd: you shouldn't use a .htaccess if you can help it02:31
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: i meant htpsswd202:31
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: i forgot how to path to that, like the command to put in <directory>02:31
flacciduse /etc/apache2/conf.d/yourcustomhtaccess.conf02:31
flaccidthat whole dir gets included02:31
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flaccidwhat is the .htaccess for?02:32
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: i like using .hpasswd202:32
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: its a .htpasswd2 file02:32
adDoes anyone know a remote control faster than vnc to control linux from windows XP ? VNC is too slow. I used TS for Win to win .. but now I can 't ...It is in a LAN02:32
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flaccidT3hWiz0rd: HTTP Authentication?02:32
T3hWiz0rdflaccid: yup02:32
flaccidT3hWiz0rd: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/auth.html02:33
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flaccidad: which vnc server were you using?02:34
shaslapthe touchpad on my compaq laptop will randomly stop being able to click things, except sometimes in one window, anyone have the same problem or a possible solution?02:34
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adflaccid: i tried thin and real02:35
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flaccidad: is the server computer running X ?02:35
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RogueJediXIsn't UltraVNC supposed to be optimised for Windows?02:35
adyes it is for kubuntu "basic"02:36
adflaccid:02:36
flaccid!x11vnc02:36
ubotux11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-5 (dapper), package size 318 kB, installed size 820 kB02:36
flaccidreduce resolution, color depth from client or server side as required02:36
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flaccidit can be used with display :002:37
flaccidits fast02:37
flaccidrealvnc client from windows works well02:37
adflaccid: i ll try but i m not so sure;;; but i ll try :)02:37
adts for windows works better :)02:37
flaccidi use it02:37
flaccidover wireless and its fast02:37
flaccidad: have you used x11vnc yet?02:37
adflaccid: on a lan ?02:38
flaccidyeah or at all?02:38
shaslapis it possible to use synaptic or some such to upgrade to edgy eft?02:38
adflaccid:  i don't know ... I ve just install kubuntu ... What is the basic version of remote control in kubuntu ?02:38
flaccid!vnc02:38
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.02:39
shaslapgrand, there went the touchpad again02:39
flaccidad: this is pretty easy. install the package x11vnc with your favourite package manager, then run the command x11vnc then done.02:39
ad!freenx02:39
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX02:39
adflaccid: gonna do it .. So it is really faster than ... than what afterall .. What is the basic package ?02:40
flaccidyou can get a windows client for freenx02:40
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flaccidad: i dont understand02:41
adflaccid:  gonna try both to see the difference ...02:41
flaccidtry x11vnc and freenx and compare the speed02:41
flaccidyeah sweet02:41
adflaccid: do you know ntrconnect ?02:41
flaccidno sorry02:41
flaccid!find ntrconnect02:41
ubotuPackage/file ntrconnect does not exist in dapper02:41
shaslapis there anything that i could be doing to cause the mouse to only work in one or no windows?02:41
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adno it is not a linux package ... activeX only :) it is for remote control but the difference is that you don't need port forwarding if you have a riouter02:42
adIt is pass through 80 port02:42
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adport 8002:43
adyou have remote control using ie02:43
adjust wonder if there such a thing in linux world ?02:43
hazard2why would you want such a thing?02:45
adflaccid: I asked you the name of the package for remote control installed in kubuntu (the basic one). IS it simply called vnc ?02:45
hazard2I think so.02:46
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adhazard2: faster to deploy02:46
flaccidad: i said x11vnc02:46
adNo port forwarding to do :)02:46
hazard2AKA: Security risk.02:47
hazard2AKA: ActiveX02:47
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adnothing 100% secure anyway ;)02:48
flaccidactivex = bad02:48
coreymon77kubuntu=good02:48
flaccidproven insecure is different02:48
adflaccid:  can not see the x&&vnc package in my gui :\02:49
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hazard2anything that mindlessly executes what it downlaods is bad02:49
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flaccidad: have you got universe repos enabled?02:49
adflaccid:  good question ... Got a fresh breezy ... so maybe not02:50
flaccid!universe > ad02:50
adsource.list to change no ?02:50
ad!universe02:50
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:50
flaccidyes add to /etc/apt/sources.list02:50
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adflaccid:  i used adept ... and enabled 4 thing (universe )02:53
adbut when i fetch i got a error02:53
flaccidwhats the error02:53
ad"there was a error dowloading updates" is the error02:54
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adflaccid: do i need to disable something ?02:55
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RogueJediXhazard2: Know anything about a missing libmpencoders.a file?02:55
flaccidad: sudo apt-get update02:55
flaccidad: then get the error from there02:55
hazard2nope...02:56
hazard2soz02:56
hazard2I haven't done this in a while.02:56
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hazard2(given I have systems building the binaries all the time, but they're headless GUIless, and for dedicated functions)02:57
JarnI am having problems installing Dapper. When I select "02:57
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Jarn"Start or Install", it freezes trying to uncompress the kernel.02:58
JarnMy guess is that it is a hardware problem.02:58
JarnBut is there any way to fix it?02:58
hazard2well, that explains why I can't ssh to this machine, OpenSSH isn't installed02:58
adflaccid: message is in french .. Try to translate : ressource temporaly non available02:58
hazard2you're sure you have enough ram?02:58
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Schuenemannricanelite: hey, I just installed it :)02:59
flaccidad: is adept or any other package managers running? or is that error after it tries to get the update list from the universe mirror?03:00
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T3hWiz0rdI feel bad for abandoning the boys in #suse :-(03:00
Schuenemannsuse is still nice03:01
adflaccid:  adept is closed . but error occurs few secons after command line... Maybe adept is not well closed03:01
adthere is no try to update03:01
flaccidcheck processes03:01
adflaccid: looking for the command ...03:02
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flaccidps aux | grep -i adept03:02
flaccidps aux | grep dpkg03:02
coreymon77yast sucks03:03
flaccid!yast03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:03
flaccidlooks like it03:03
Schuenemannlol03:03
coreymon77yast deleted my entire home firectory during an upgrade03:03
Schuenemannhey, how do I change user to root?03:04
flaccidwtf is it/?03:04
flaccidSchuenemann: does root have a password?03:04
Schuenemannis there a default pass?03:04
SchuenemannI wasn't asked about one03:04
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flaccidno there isn't03:04
flaccidSchuenemann: why do you need su ?03:04
Schuenemann?03:04
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adflaccid:  what i suppoed to see with the first command ?03:04
Schuenemannmany reasons03:04
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flaccidSchuenemann: have you used sudo before?03:05
Schuenemannnope03:05
SchuenemannI just installed it03:05
flaccidad: if an adept process is active03:05
flaccidok cool03:05
flaccid!find sudo03:05
ubotuFound: gksu, sudo, dpsyco-sudo, gnome-sudoku, ksudoku (and 1 others)03:05
flaccid!sudo03:05
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:05
flaccidthe default user is in the admin group which means you can sudo out of the box03:06
flaccidsudo command03:06
adflaccid: ok but whatever the name a line apeears ... How to know it is on ?03:06
flaccidand then specify your password03:06
flaccidi mean enter your passwd03:06
Schuenemannthe password for my user?03:06
flaccidad: how many lines does that command return?03:06
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adflaccid:  one03:07
flaccidSchuenemann: yes, yourself03:07
flaccidad: none is running03:07
Schuenemannbut what if I want to login as su?03:07
flaccidSchuenemann: for what?03:07
adflaccid: if one is running how many lines ? 2 ?03:08
Schuenemannwho knows?03:08
flaccidyes03:08
flaccidits not required03:08
Schuenemannevery distribution I used had it, it seems weird not having one03:08
flaccidits better for security03:08
flaccidbut you can enable it by doing sudo passwd root03:09
adflaccid: can not locked /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" is a part of the error03:09
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SchuenemannI see the instructions on that page03:09
Schuenemannthanks03:09
flaccidbut there is no reason to have root access normally. never login to X as root etc.03:09
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JarnWhen I try to start Dapper off the CD, it freezed at "Booting the kernel". Anyone know how to fix this?03:10
flaccidad: what does: ps aux | grep apt | grep lock return?03:10
Schuenemannjarn: did you check if the media is ok?03:10
JarnAs in the disk?03:10
Schuenemannthe CD03:10
JarnThe disk is fine.03:10
JarnYes.03:10
adflaccid:  nothing !03:10
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flaccidad: ps aux | grep -i apt03:11
RogueJediXYeesh, 3 o'clock already. Gotta get to bed03:11
flaccidwhat does that return03:11
RogueJediXhazard2: Would you mind giving me a shout if you find anything out about that error?03:11
ricaneliteWhere you live Rogue?03:11
JarnSchuenemann: I am fairly certain it's not a problem with the disk since it happens with both a Kubuntu 32-bit disk and a Kubuntu 64-bit disk.03:11
flaccidJarn: could be hardware hard to tell03:12
Jarnflaccid: Is there anyway I can find out?03:12
flaccidthere might be but i don't know03:12
flaccidsorry03:12
Jarnflaccid: I /think/ that this might be my problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/3826303:12
SchuenemannI don't know, I asked because I just had that problem and it was the CD03:12
Jarnflaccid: But the only fix there is to use Edgy.03:13
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adflaccid: something hard to understand for me :\03:13
flaccidhmm yeah acpi seems to interfere quit a bit with kubuntu03:13
JarnWhat is acpi?03:13
flaccid!acpi03:13
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)03:13
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hazard2alrighty jedi03:14
flaccidpower manager03:14
adflaccid: there is that too : apt-get install mysql-server03:14
flaccidad:huh?03:14
RogueJediXThanks, hazard203:14
RogueJediXWell, nighty night03:14
hazard2night03:14
Jarnflaccid: Is that what all these (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/38263/comments/4) are for, to stop acpi from starting?03:15
adflaccid: i install mysql few hours ago03:15
Jarnflaccid: I tried several of those and got errors.03:15
flaccidJarn: i wish i could help further03:15
Jarnflaccid: Okay, thanks anyway.03:15
flaccidi had to disable acpi on my kubuntu server because it stopped the cpu fan. now i think the cpu is stuffed.03:15
tkJarn: I had the same problem and it was because the CD didnt pass the checksum despite the download reporting no errors03:15
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Jarntk: My CD did pass the checksum.03:16
mini_ghow do i edit a file from within bash?03:16
tkjarn: ok, disregard then :P03:16
SchuenemannI had problems with the checksum too03:16
Jarntk: Or atleast, when I did the ISO. Is there a way to check the CD after the burn process to make sure it burned correctly?03:16
fignewmini_g: nano03:17
Schuenemannyes03:17
Schuenemannafter you boot, there is that option03:17
mini_gfignew: kk03:18
Schuenemannand that was exacly what happened to me: the ISO was ok, the burning process not03:18
JarnSchuenemann: Check the CD for Defects?03:18
Schuenemannyes03:18
adflaccid: maybe i should kill mysql-server install ?03:18
JarnThat freezes at "Booting the Kernel"03:18
JarnApparently that also needs to boot the kernel.03:18
JarnAnd anything that would need to boot the kernel is not working, apparently.03:18
Schuenemannouch03:18
flaccidad: pastebin the whole output of sudo apt-get update03:19
JarnAnd again, I do not think that it is the CD since I burned a 64-bit and a 32-bit, and both do the same thing.03:19
SchuenemannI'm sorry I can't help03:19
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JarnI guess I'll just install03:19
JarnI guess I'll just install Breezy.03:19
JarnOr wait till Edgy comes out.03:19
flaccidor try ubuntu then install kubuntu-desktop03:21
adhttp://pastebin.ca/201919 flaccid03:21
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thulhmm, how long will an average kubuntuinstall take?03:22
Torched_45 minutes03:22
flaccidhmm restart, ad03:24
flaccidunfortunately03:24
HobbseeTorched_: only on a very slow machine, surely03:24
Hobbseethul: probably about 30 mins - you dont need to be there all the time though03:25
flaccidad: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2008362#post200836203:25
adflaccid: ok ...03:25
flaccidif you don't wanna reboot ^^03:26
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T3hWiz0rdsuppose i want kde 3.5.5 on kubuntu... is there a repo out for it right now?03:27
fignewT3hWiz0rd: kubuntu homepage03:28
coreymon77ya03:28
coreymon77how do i get kde 3.5.503:28
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coreymon77apt-get install what?03:28
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Astro-Freshmexhi can i receive some support please?03:28
Schuenemannapt-cache search kde ?03:28
flaccidsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:28
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flaccidafter you add a mirror repos for kde 3.5.503:29
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flaccidto your /etc/apt/sources.list03:29
coreymon77doesnt the dapper-update repo include it?03:29
Astro-Freshmexanyone who knows samba?03:29
flaccidhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php03:29
flaccidAstro-Freshmex: i do03:29
mini_g!grub03:30
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:30
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Astro-Freshmexhi flaccid03:30
Astro-Freshmexokay when i use a program such as komba203:30
Astro-Freshmexi mount the share but it wont stay mounted03:30
adflaccid: i m back :)03:30
T3hWiz0rdbrb+03:31
Astro-Freshmexi.e. once you click mount it doesn't really mount.03:31
flaccidad: cool03:31
adno sudo apt-get update work ...*03:31
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flaccidAstro-Freshmex: sorry never used komba203:31
Astro-Freshmexwhat did you use?03:31
hazard2'doh03:31
flaccidfor client?03:31
Astro-Freshmexyes03:31
adflaccid: so no i need universe03:31
hazard2I forgot that the fb2 driver in mplayer _ALWAYS_ KPs.03:31
flaccidlike gui to mount network smb shares?03:31
coreymon77do i need to add the mirrors?03:31
coreymon77or is the kubuntu.org repo enough?03:32
flaccidcoreymon77: just 1 of them03:32
Schuenemannwhich one is the grub conf file?03:32
coreymon77deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main03:32
thulHobbsee: hmm, ok, I tried to boot kubuntu now, but it would not boot at all.. so I guess I'm kind of stuck anyway:)03:32
Astro-Freshmexyes please flaccid03:32
T3hWiz0rdokay to update kde what would i put in? just apt-get install kde?03:32
coreymon77that one is already in my soureces.list03:32
Astro-Freshmexi get suid root errors (not root)03:32
coreymon77is that alright?03:32
flaccidAstro-Freshmex: smb4k03:32
flaccid!smb4k03:32
Astro-Freshmexi had that one03:32
felixjet!wine03:32
ubotusmb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 489 kB, installed size 2032 kB03:32
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:32
Schuenemann!grub03:32
Astro-Freshmexhang on i'll get it again03:32
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:32
Astro-Freshmexalso chown isn't working as well as i want to03:33
Astro-Freshmexlondon@london-medic:~$ sudo chown london /home/london/sDisk03:33
Astro-Freshmexchown: changing ownership of `/home/london/sDisk': Operation not permitted03:33
coreymon77will deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main be okay?03:33
Astro-FreshmexsDisk being my mount disc03:33
Astro-Freshmexdisk*03:33
mini_g*sigh* i hate reinstalling an os over'n'over03:34
Astro-Freshmexlondon@london-medic:~$ sudo chown london /home/london/sDisk03:34
Astro-Freshmexchown: changing ownership of `/home/london/sDisk': Operation not permitted03:34
Astro-Freshmexops :s03:34
flaccidis it mounted?03:34
thulAny suggestions? Kubuntu boots up fine, I come to the menu, choose "start or install kubuntu", then kubuntu does "loading important drivers (or something like that ok" and Loading kernel... ok03:34
thuland there it stops.03:34
Schuenemannbad CD?03:34
coreymon77deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main is already in my sources.list03:34
Schuenemannflaccid: hey, what is the grub conf file?03:35
coreymon77so do i just do apt-get update then apt-get upgrade03:35
flaccidcoreymon77: update and upgrade with your fav pacakage manager03:35
Astro-Freshmexyes03:35
coreymon77or should i do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?03:35
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Astro-Freshmexi used the smbmount command03:35
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flaccidcoreymon77: negative03:35
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coreymon77my fav package manager is konsole03:35
Astro-Freshmexpoor you :P03:35
flaccidAstro-Freshmex: unmount it first03:35
coreymon77:P03:35
adflaccid: oh i lost your link to get universe repos ...03:35
thulSchuenemann: well, when i mount it in poweriso, it works fine in windows too03:36
coreymon77whats the konsole command03:36
thuli guess I'll redownload and reburn03:36
Astro-Freshmexwhich command do i use please? i knwo mounitng but not the unmounting of it03:36
flaccid!source-o-matic try that ad03:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about source-o-matic try that ad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:36
Schuenemannthul: was the ISO checksum ok?03:36
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flaccid!source-o-matic > ad03:36
T3hWiz0rdokay can somoen tell me what to run in apt-get to upgrade kde 3.5.5? i have the deb added now03:36
coreymon77flaccid, whats the terminal command03:36
thulSchuenemann: i can check.03:37
flaccidT3hWiz0rd: fetch list of of updates, then install03:37
flaccidcoreymon77: for what?03:37
Astro-FreshmexT3hWiz0rd: sudo apt-get upgrade ?03:37
coreymon77kde 35503:37
coreymon77the apt command03:37
flaccidsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:37
T3hWiz0rdokay03:38
T3hWiz0rdi wasn't sure if i was supposed to put "upgrade kubuntu-desktop" or something.03:38
T3hWiz0rdhmmm03:39
Astro-Freshmexflaccid: whats the command to unmount?03:39
T3hWiz0rdto link a program you type ln -s right?03:39
flaccidAstro-Freshmex: sudo umount /home/london/sDisk03:40
hazard2alright03:40
hazard2that's it03:40
hazard2now I'm confused03:40
hazard2I changed the hostname in the /etc/hostname file03:41
hazard2now, I can't sudo (again), just like when I changed it with sudo hostname [name]  (except restarting after that didn't keep the change)03:41
Astro-Freshmexah right okay cool done03:41
hazard2why can I not change the hostname without breaking sudo?03:41
coreymon770 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:41
flaccidhazard2: did you change /etc/hosts03:42
hazard2ah...03:42
hazard2no...03:42
coreymon77it wont let me upgrade03:42
Astro-Freshmexonce i unmount it the group changes back to mine03:42
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ccherrettanyone know what the dev packages for alsa are?03:42
hazard2why does the local hostname need to be bound to 127.0.1.1?03:42
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Astro-Freshmexsmbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)03:42
Astro-Freshmexsmbmnt failed: 103:42
adflaccid: yeah ok ! i got universe and pick up x11vnc :)03:42
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coreymon77how do i check what version of kde i have?03:43
Astro-Freshmexis it possible to mount it whilst not being root?03:43
adWhat was the second one I ve forgotten :\03:43
hazard2isn't the normal loopback localhost fine?03:43
flaccidad: cool03:43
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flaccidAstro-Freshmex: yes chown it to your username, then mount using smbmount03:43
flaccidchown the mountpoint ie. /home/london/sDisk03:43
adflaccid: wht was the second one you talked to me .... freenx ?03:43
flaccid!freenx > ad03:44
Astro-Freshmexyeah its already mine03:44
flaccidcool03:44
adflaccid: don't see your > :(03:44
ad!freenx03:44
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX03:44
Astro-Freshmexbut when i sudo smbmount, it changes to root03:44
Search4Lancerhas anyone here installed Firefox 2 yet?03:44
flaccidAstro-Freshmex: don't use sudo just use smbmount03:45
flaccidbut you also need to supply a umask03:45
adflaccid: freenx is multiverse ?03:45
coreymon77guys03:45
Schuenemannflaccid: how can I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst without having su?03:45
coreymon77i cant install kde 3.5.503:45
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SchuenemannI want to edit with kate or similar03:45
flaccidSchuenemann: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst03:45
ccherrettI used apt-cache but I cannot tell wich packages hold the header files?03:45
Schuenemannso kdesu is for graphical UI?03:46
T3hWiz0rdits now showing any upgrades available for kde for me :-(03:46
flaccidSchuenemann: yeah you get a prompt03:46
Astro-Freshmexlondon@london-medic:~$ smbmount //MEDIC-S01/iDisk /home/london/sDisk -o username=~~,password=~~03:46
Astro-Freshmexsmbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)03:46
Astro-Freshmexsmbmnt failed: 103:46
flaccidif you have apt-cache try this sudo apt-cache madison kdebase | grep 3.5.503:46
Schuenemannhmm, let me try03:46
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flaccidAstro-Freshmex: sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmount03:48
Astro-Freshmexthat's what i get03:48
T3hWiz0rdthis is dumb it won't let me upgrade to kubuntu-desktop 3.5.503:48
flaccidthen try the smbmount command again03:48
Astro-Freshmexoh kay03:48
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adflaccid: ok I going to sleep ... 3 48 here .. Thanks for your support ByE !03:48
flaccidciao03:48
T3hWiz0rdi added one of the repos for the 3.5.5 upgrade, ran update, ran upgrade... nothing.03:49
Astro-Freshmexlondon@london-medic:~$ smbmount //MEDIC-S01/iDisk /home/london/sDisk -o username=~~,password=~~03:49
Astro-Freshmexlibsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.03:49
Astro-Freshmex6246: Connection to MEDIC-S01 failed03:49
Astro-FreshmexSMB connection failed03:49
flaccidAstro-Freshmex: so that will give you user mount access03:49
ccherrettanyone know what package holds the alsa headers03:49
ccherrettfor development?03:49
Schuenemannflaccid: sorry for the silly questions, but how do I change the default boot partition?03:50
flaccidAstro-Freshmex: i made a mistake03:50
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Schuenemannalmost every entry has a "savedefault"03:50
Astro-Freshmexit's okay03:51
Astro-Freshmexwhat happens next?03:51
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King_Bradhow do i configure xdcmp to allow connections?03:51
flaccidAstro-Freshmex: one sec03:51
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coreymon77guys03:53
flaccidAstro-Freshmex: run this sudo chmod u-s /usr/bin/smbmount && sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt03:53
flaccidthen try the smbmount command under your username again03:54
coreymon77i just didapt-get upgrade and it said that a ton of packages were held back and only 8 would be upgraded03:54
coreymon77why is that?03:54
King_Bradnewest version already installed??03:54
coreymon77no03:55
coreymon77well i dont know03:55
Astro-Freshmexoh yeah cool it works a charm :P03:55
coreymon77how do i check03:55
Astro-Freshmexthanks flaccid03:55
Astro-Freshmexand it would now work a-ok for smb4k as well?03:55
King_Bradcan i use xdmcp to remotely login to one of my nix box's that is on my network?03:55
coreymon77how do i check which version of kde i have03:55
flaccidAstro-Freshmex: yes03:55
King_Bradand if so, how do i configure it to allow that?03:55
Astro-Freshmexwhat's and u and s in that chmod command? s is sticky, right?03:55
flaccidcoreymon77: pastebin the output of sudo dpkg -l | grep 3.5.503:55
flaccidSUID03:56
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flaccidcoreymon77: see kde version by right click on kmenu > help > about kde03:57
ricanelitedoes anyone here know about MOL??03:57
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wizardnow kubuntu wont boot into kde again people03:57
wizardall i did was reboot the system xorg is exaclty the same everything is exactly the same, it wont boot03:57
coreymon77o03:57
coreymon77i have 3.5.303:57
coreymon77should i still put the output on pastebin03:57
flaccidyep03:58
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scott__can anyone tell me how to install kde?03:58
scott__if I am using ubuntu?03:58
flaccidscott__: install kubuntu-desktop with your favourite package manager03:59
King_Bradcan i do a "new session in window" instead of full screen and having to switch back and forth?03:59
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flaccidcoreymon77: what do you get for sudo apt-cache madison kdebase | grep 3.5.503:59
coreymon77i put the sudo dpkg thing on pastebin04:00
coreymon77http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26694/04:00
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flacciddo you have the dapper-updates repos enables as well?04:00
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LESBOTRONICpants a drop out04:00
nonainoola alguien habla espaol04:01
thulhmm04:01
thulcan my problems with installing be related to my sata-disk?04:01
coreymon77http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26695/04:01
LESBOTRONICoops Astro-Freshmex is still connected04:01
coreymon77that is the apt-cache thing04:01
coreymon77yup04:01
LESBOTRONICanyways, flaccis just wanted to thank you so um yeah. thanks :P04:01
scott__there was a way of installing kde through a terminal..I forget the command?04:01
LESBOTRONICfalccid*04:01
flaccidLESBOTRONIC: np04:01
LESBOTRONICflaccid**04:01
LESBOTRONICciao04:01
LjL!apt-get04:02
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:02
flaccidscott__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:02
coreymon77so ya\04:02
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coreymon77why are over 100 packages being held back04:02
coreymon77?04:02
flacciddo you have dapper-updates repos enabled?04:02
coreymon77yes04:03
coreymon77they doint have a # beside them04:03
wizardlol so sad04:03
flaccidtry a dif mirror perhaps04:03
wizardi have to reinstall my drivers everytime kubuntu boots04:03
coreymon77ill putn my sources.list on pastebin04:03
coreymon77and my apt-get upgrade output04:04
cerostry sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:04
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ricanelitehow do i edit this file /etc/mol/molrc.video?04:04
coreymon77http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26696/ - my sources.list04:05
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wizardfhdf04:06
wizardghdf04:06
wizardgfd04:06
wizardwoop04:06
wizardss04:06
wizardsorry!!!04:06
wizardwrong window04:06
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wizardwon't happen again, my bad everyone04:06
coreymon77http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26697/ - my apt-get upgrade output04:06
wizardthis driver thing is beginningb to fluster me to no ends reach04:07
wizardi don't get what i am doing wrong04:07
ceroscoreymon77, you could do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:07
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wizardevery single time i reboot kubuntu04:08
wizardi have to reinstall the nvidia drivers04:08
wizardEVERY time...04:08
wizardanyone have a solution?04:08
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wizard!nvidia04:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:09
coreymon77so flaccid04:09
coreymon77anything?04:09
flaccidcoreymon77: can you try this sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26699/04:10
wizardi don't get this :-(04:10
wizardif kubuntu can't manage my drivers right its sadly going to get booted out of my distro list like suse did04:10
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coreymon77same thing flaccid04:14
coreymon778 upgraded 111 not04:14
wizardanyone got a good explination as to why kubuntu just sits on the kubuntu splash when i restart kdm?04:15
wizardi've gone through every possible explination04:15
ceroscoreymon77, sudo apt-get upgrade --ignore-hold04:15
flaccidcoreymon77: got me on that04:15
coreymon77do that command flaccid?04:17
coreymon77the ingnor-hold thing04:17
flaccidyep04:17
coreymon77that will help it?04:17
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wizardcan someone please help me with a major nvidia problem?04:18
coreymon77exact same thing04:18
coreymon77it keeps on saying packages have been held back04:18
coreymon77why?04:18
King_Bradwizard: are you always this demanding?04:18
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coreymon77why are the packages beeing held back?04:19
wizardKing_Brad: is saying please demanding?04:19
cerosthat's wierd04:19
ceroscan you post your sources.list again?04:19
flaccidits weird coz kdebase is not in there04:19
flaccidand lots of other stuff04:19
coreymon77im using the one that flaccid provided me04:19
flaccidcoreymon77: try commenting out the src entries04:19
coreymon77do you want my original04:19
King_Bradwizard:  no, but asking your questing 10 times in 5 mins is... if noone has answered, its prolly because noone is sure...04:19
coreymon77huh?04:20
coreymon77do what flac?04:20
wizardKing_Brad: its been driving me nuts pretty much all day04:20
coreymon77should i use my original sources.list again?04:20
cerosno04:20
cerosjust show me what you have now04:20
wizardthe thing just returns to the kubuntu splash and sits there, never moves from it04:20
King_Bradi understand that, this is linux after all04:21
cerosyou should take out deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main04:21
King_Braddrivers may have bugs..04:21
wizardKing_Brad: every other distro i've used never did this..04:21
King_Bradwhat about suse? i saw you mention that eairler...04:21
wizardit never did it04:22
coreymon77http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26700/04:22
King_Bradhrm04:22
wizardsuse never gave me a driver problem... ever04:22
coreymon77thats it04:22
King_Bradmaybe the drive was not installed correctlY?04:22
King_Bradhave you tired to update kde to latest version?04:22
coreymon77okay ceros?04:23
cerosok04:23
cerostake out deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main04:23
cerosdo sudo apt-get update04:23
felixjeti hate when im editing a file with kate and it auto-create a "backup" file. it is possible to prevent it?04:23
cerossudo apt-get upgrade --ignore-hold04:24
RobNYC_I have a problem with my kde wallet04:24
RobNYC_i enter the password and it comes up saying is wrong04:24
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intelikeywizard if you don't like *buntu don't use it.   you wont hurt our feeling by not using it.   if you like it use it if not, then 86 it and move on.04:24
felixjetnevermingd, found04:24
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wizardKing_Brad: i imagine that after 9 times or so of installing the driver it should be installed just fine... everytime i boot to kubuntu i have to reinstall the driver.04:24
wizardKing_Brad: because it just sits on the kubuntu splash and does nothing04:25
King_Bradhave you tried updating kde?04:25
wizardKing_Brad: i ran the updates a little while ago04:25
King_Bradhrm04:25
wizardi just reinstalled the nvidia driver again and changed some stuff in xorg.conf to match my own prefs.04:25
wizardit sets the card name as NVIDIA generic graphics card04:25
Momalgarr damn kopete >_<04:25
wizardwhich isn't what it is at all lol... Renamed it to NVIDIA Geforce 7800GS04:25
King_Bradwell to be honest with you, this is way beyond the scope of my knowlage, i dont use video drivers other then the ones that it auto loads, because i use this machine for well, messing around... my gameing pc is winblowz still...04:26
wizardKing_Brad: just rebooted again and back to splash04:26
Momalwizard: mine does that as well i have a geforce7800GT and it just says generic graphics card04:26
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King_Bradmaybe the video driver for the 7800 for kubuntu is buggy... that is a fairly new card...04:26
intelikeythe card idintifyer could read "bob died last week"  it's just an id nothing more.04:26
wizardits been out over a year 0.o04:27
MomalIm runing the latest from the website :)04:27
King_Bradthats new in my book04:27
King_Bradlol04:27
Momal8774 or something like that04:27
wizardintelikey: then why is it everytime i boot into linux i have to reinstall the drivers over and over and over.04:27
King_Bradit always loads the :generic" driver and u just rename it?04:27
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intelikeyyou don't have too.  like i said if you don't like it don't use it.04:27
wizardintelikey: i can reinstall the drivers right now, they'lll work, i'll reboot, and they'll stop04:27
intelikeyif you don't like it don't use it.04:28
King_Bradokay, well back to my problem, is thier a GUI in kubuntu to configure remote logins via xdmcp?04:28
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intelikeywizard if you really want to fix it.   fix the "totally stupid" ubuntu init script that sets up xorg automatically at boot time.04:29
wizardis there a guide to it?04:29
intelikeyi don't recall the name of the script  but it's in the /etc/init.d/ dir  and it reconfigures xorg at boot time.04:30
intelikeyand i doubt that there is any guide.04:30
intelikeyfirst thing i did when i installed is rebuild init to suit myself.04:30
ceroscoreymon77, is it working?04:31
intelikeyso i get along with this linux software just fine.  but i'm kinda like you wizard i don't get along with "*buntu" spicific anything.04:31
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wizardintelikey: nvidia-installer --uninstall uninstalls the drivers from the website right?04:32
wizardnow i am trying to use the onesp roviding on the apt-get repositories04:32
intelikeythere is a guide for the nv drivers04:33
wizardintelikey: i simply followed the guide as close as i could.04:33
intelikey!ati04:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:33
wizardintelikey: http://cholito.org/2006/03/17/installing-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu/ << this is what i followed04:33
King_Brad!xdmcp04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xdmcp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
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hazard2SUCESS!!!04:34
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hazard2sudo is FINALLY fixed.04:34
intelikeybut there is an init script that messes with your xorg.conf   you can sudo chattr +i /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and boot and watch which script complains about it.04:34
King_Bradhow can i check what version of KDE i am running?04:35
intelikeydpkg -l kde04:35
King_Bradbrad@brad:~$ dpkg -l kde04:36
King_BradNo packages found matching kde.04:36
intelikeykde-core then04:36
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King_Bradsame thing04:36
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intelikeykde-core - the K Desktop Environment core modules04:37
King_Bradbrad@brad:~$ dpkg -l kde-core04:37
King_BradNo packages found matching kde-core.04:37
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intelikeyi guess you don't have kde .....04:37
King_Bradkde-config --version  <--- that worked04:38
ryanrKing_Brad try dpkg -l kdm04:38
intelikeyif you are pretty sure that you do   try    dpkg -l | grep kde04:38
King_Bradwell, im using it right now04:38
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King_Bradso im sure its there somewhere04:38
intelikeyryanr would the version of kdm and kde be the same ?04:39
ryanrI believe they are the same thing04:39
King_Bradyes04:40
King_Bradit will show u the version of KDE04:40
King_Bradwith that dpkg -I kdm command04:40
coreymon77sorry04:40
coreymon77i was in the shower04:40
coreymon77what were you saying ceros04:40
intelikeyi didn't know if the versions matched or not.  you can have one and not the othere....04:41
intelikeyah maybe it's kdebase-bin04:42
wizardintelikey: can you tell me what to remove in init.d so that it won't reconfigure xorg on boot?04:43
coreymon77hey04:44
coreymon77ceros04:44
coreymon77what you said didnt help04:44
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coreymon77i deleted that repo and nothing changed04:44
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intelikeywizard no but you can   grep -Hie'xorg' /etc/init.d/*     and prolly find it pretty quick.04:45
coreymon77ceros, it didnt help04:45
coreymon77ceros: what did flac mean when he said comment out the src entries04:46
wizardi was starting to like kubuntu again too :-(04:46
intelikeyoh don't do that.04:46
coreymon77what do i do now ceros04:46
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cerosprobably meant deb-src entries04:46
cerosbut i never comment those out04:47
wizardit looks like autoruns dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?04:47
coreymon77okay04:47
coreymon77what do i do now?04:47
cerosi'm going to send you my sources.list file04:47
wizarddisplayconfig-hwprobe.py04:47
wizardshould i remove it intelikey?04:47
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intelikeywizard yep look in that one.04:47
intelikeyedit04:47
Momalanyone know much about kopete here? or might know how to fix my prob: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/20203704:48
intelikeyedit   not remove.  edit04:48
cerosoh04:48
cerosnever registered04:48
ceroshold on04:48
wizardintelikey: remove the line dpkg-reconfigure?04:48
intelikeywizard you know anything about init scripts ?    or shell scripts in general ?04:49
coreymon77never registered for what ceros?04:49
cerosto send messages through freenode04:49
coreymon77oh04:49
wizardintelikey: not really... i blanked out the command line where it reconfigures itself04:49
coreymon77you idnt register with nickserv?04:49
intelikeywizard try commenting the line out.     prepend #04:50
wizardjust did that04:50
wizardintelikey: i guess i knew a little eh?04:50
intelikey# this line is commented out.04:50
wizardintelikey: its rebooting04:50
wizardintelikey: i did two of them lol04:50
wizard##cmd04:50
wizardsame difference though, makes ite asier for me to see04:50
intelikeyyeah what ever feels right.04:51
coreymon77you registered yet ceros?04:51
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wizardintelikey: i just want it to boot up and work... you think that line could of been it?04:51
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cerosyeah04:52
wizardintelikey: :-(04:52
wizardit still isn't loading X04:52
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intelikeywizard but did it change your xorg.conf file this time?04:52
coreymon77so now what?04:53
wizardintelikey: let me look04:53
ceroshold on04:53
wizardnothing that i can see04:54
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intelikeyk then that problem is solve'ed   now as to why you have no X on boot ....04:54
cerosok04:54
cerosdid you get it04:54
intelikeywhat do you get wizard ?04:55
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intelikeydoes the screen blank and then flash back to the frame buffer ?04:55
intelikeywizard or does it never even try to start xorg ?04:56
mabreauxTrying to install a network printer on edgy and it is not working.  Says can not load printer list.04:56
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wizardintelikey: it blanks04:56
wizardintelikey: then goes back to the kubuntu splash04:56
rexbronwhat command do you use to list pids from the command line?04:57
intelikeyk look at   cat /var/log/xorg.0.*   error should be last thing printed04:57
intelikeyor last few lines.04:58
wizardintelikey: "fatal error: no screens found"04:58
wizardand above that04:58
intelikeyrexbron i use pid  but you need to use   ps -A x04:58
wizardEE Screens found but none have a usable configuration04:58
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Torched_!permissions04:59
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux04:59
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wizardintelikey: it also says it failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module04:59
wizardohhh...... OHHH04:59
wizardaren't you supposed to modprobe -v nvidia?04:59
cerosyou there coreymon?05:00
intelikeywizard ok  then the xorg.conf is not right for the driver selected and monitor discriptor   if you have nvidia drivers properly installed and your xorg.conf lists the driver as "nvidia"   NOT  'nv'   then it's in the monitor section.  else check the drivers again.05:00
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rexbronintelikey: Thanks05:00
mabreauxI am trying to install a network printer on edgy. and getting the can not load printer list. error.  is there a work around?05:00
ceroscoreymon?05:00
wizardintelikey: shouldn't i also add modprobe -v nvidia05:00
coreymonwho is the op here05:01
coreymoncan they kick coreymon7705:01
coreymonsomething messed up with my internet and now  cant use the name anymore05:01
intelikeywizard you can put that in /etc/modprob.d/  i think05:01
coreymonceros05:01
cerosyeah05:01
coreymonhow do i kick my nick05:01
coreymoncoreymon77 isnt actually online05:02
coreymonmy internet messed05:02
intelikeyor in /etc/modules   it's deperciated but still useful05:02
cerosdon't know05:02
cerosi'm new to irc05:02
coreymonkonversation restarted05:02
coreymoni cna tuse my name anymore05:02
rexbron!kill05:02
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands05:02
coreymonwait a sec05:02
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wizardintelikey: i forgot to add the mobprobe05:02
intelikeycoreymon /msg nickesrv help05:02
wizardmodprobe*05:02
intelikeynickserv ^05:02
soundmaster80is anyone here using edgy?05:03
wizardintelikey: and that can cause conflicts cant it? if the nvidia module isn't laoded into kernel?05:03
soundmaster80i just updated networkmanager and for some reason it's either not starting or hanging05:03
intelikeythen do the modprobe and sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:03
wizardintelikey: it came back up05:03
wizardintelikey: i am rebooting now05:03
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intelikeyok but this is not M$ reboot...05:04
Momalanyone know where Ican find a kopete 0.12.2 deb? or earlier ?05:04
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coreymon77sorry bout that05:04
coreymon77im back05:04
cerosok05:04
coreymon77ceros05:04
cerosyeah05:04
coreymon77im back now05:04
coreymon77i just ctrl+alt+bkspced05:04
cerosalright05:04
cerosgo to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18575805:04
wizardintelikey: nopeeeee05:05
wizardintelikey: bye bye kubuntu05:05
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cerosuse the sources.list there05:05
wizardi've had enough05:05
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intelikeywizard don't blame you really.   i put it on the list a long time ago.05:05
cerosthan add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main05:05
cerosand deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main05:05
thulhmm, I had to give kubuntu up.. :-( but thanks for the help!05:06
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cerossudo dpkg --configure -a05:06
wizardintelikey: i cna't believe how difficult its been to set up... DRIVERS...05:06
cerossudo apt-get update05:06
intelikeywizard but it could be much worse.  it could have costed you M$  :)05:06
wizardsimple, basic, nvidia drivers that never gave me a single problem elsewhere.05:06
cerossudo apt-get upgrade --ignore-hold05:06
wizardintelikey: i tried, i really did... i came from suse and gave kubuntu my best run05:06
wizardITS LISTED05:06
wizardand now suse is listed05:06
wizardso i need to find a new distro :-(05:07
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linuxbombHow can i tell adept that I don't want to upgrade this package and quit showing me a !05:07
intelikeymandriva slackware fedora-core debain gentoo puppy colage ....  you name it.05:07
Dr_willisLinuxXP05:08
Dr_willisor XPLinux :)05:08
wizardintelikey: it just crashes to that stupid splash screen everytime i boot05:08
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wizardslack is too hard for me to figure out its all source lol05:08
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intelikeyi thought you just said you gave up on it.05:08
coreymon77ahh!!!05:08
coreymon77this doesnt have the sources repos!05:08
cerosit should05:08
coreymon77wait05:09
coreymon77i think it may05:09
coreymon77does this have everything i do05:09
cerosexcept for dapper-proposed05:09
coreymon77does this have everything i would need05:09
intelikeyslack != all source    gentoo == all source   slack == tar archives  but they are packages05:09
cerosi don't use it though05:09
coreymon77should i get that?05:09
wizardintelikey: looking at it frustrates me05:09
cerosno05:09
wizardintelikey: it REALLY frustrates me05:09
tmdx120_does anyone know abou a program called citrix?05:09
wizardintelikey: i am thinknig about fedora core but fedora core and I don't bond well05:09
cerosdid you remember to add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main05:10
wizardi'ven ever tried mandriva05:10
cerosand deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main05:10
coreymon77it doesnt have them?05:10
cerosyou have to add the last two in05:10
intelikeythat tells me you are so addicted to ubuntu linux that you are willing to pull your own hair out just to fight with it wizard05:10
coreymon77okay05:10
wizardi thought debian would be nice, intelikey... lots of packages for it.05:10
wizardintelikey: i am addicted to linux... period05:10
ryanris anyone using edgy having problems with firefox with the flash 7 plugin?05:10
wizardintelikey: doesn't matter where it comes from its linxu05:11
Momalanyone know where Ican find a kopete 0.12.2 deb? or earlier ?05:11
intelikeythe only reason i still have *buntu installed ^  it's linux05:11
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phoenix_anybody know how I'd go about deleting /home/user/.local files?05:12
wizardintelikey: i am considering reinstalling suse 10.1 from the ground up05:12
wizardintelikey: today they finally released the respins05:12
wizardintelikey: so it may be better05:12
phoenix_I have 15gb of trash there05:12
Torched_i don't seem to have permission to copy things to hda205:12
Torched_how do i change that05:12
Dr_willisphoenix_,  how many users do you have?05:12
wizardintelikey: sadly suse does beat kubuntu05:12
intelikeyphoenix_ rm05:12
wizardintelikey: i always try to be fair first05:12
phoenix_It's from a previous install05:13
Dr_willisTorched_,  what kind of drive/partition is hda2?05:13
coreymon77just add those 2 anywhere in my sources.list file?05:13
Torched_ntfs05:13
phoenix_I've allready changed ownership05:13
cerosyeah05:13
Torched_it's not a separate drive, just a partition05:13
intelikeywizard imo mandrake beet ubuntu  but don't tell anyone in here i said that.05:13
coreymon77same think05:13
Dr_willisTorched_,  thats SUch a faq. to let Users access the ntfs drives the fstab needs to be similer to... (let me paste mine)05:13
intelikeyooops !05:13
coreymon77samething i mean05:13
Dr_willis       /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       105:14
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cerosyou're leaving an extra line at the end right?05:14
cerosa blank line i mean05:14
Torched_yeah that's how mine looks Dr_willis05:14
phoenix_rm won't remove directories05:14
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coreymon77???05:15
coreymon77yup05:15
cerosok05:15
Dr_willisTorched_,  is your FIRST user the one accessing it? or some other user?05:15
cerosand did you do sudo dpkg --configure -a ?05:15
Torched_there is only one user05:15
coreymon77i am05:15
cerosyou mean you did?05:15
Dr_willisTorched_,  Hmm...  this is the only user youve ever had on the system? youve not moved/added/removed any?05:15
Torched_nope, never05:16
Torched_when i look at the permissions in konqueror, it says it's owned by root05:16
Dr_williswhat group does it say its owned by?05:16
coreymon77i did05:16
Torched_plugdev05:16
cerosok05:16
intelikeyTorched_ sudo rm /home/<username>/.local -fr05:16
Dr_willisTorched_,  identical to mine..05:16
cerosdo sudo adept_updater05:17
Dr_willisTorched_,  if you can see the files... then whats the problem? or am i missing somthin ghere.05:17
Torched_i want to copy something to it05:17
coreymon77cer0s05:17
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Torched_i don't have that right05:17
cerosyeah05:17
Dr_willisTorched_,  you do realize that NTFS is a READONLY thin gunder linux eh?05:17
cerossudo adept_updater05:17
Torched_no05:17
coreymon77cer0s05:17
Torched_why is that05:17
Dr_willisTorched_,  you do Now. :P05:17
intelikeyoh i thought you asked about deleting05:17
Dr_willisWriting to ntfs is risky05:17
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Torched_why05:17
Dr_willisTorched_,  go ask MS to release the specs for NTFS>. and you will find out why05:18
coreymonoh damn05:18
Torched_oh ok05:18
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linuxbombDr_willis: can't you write ntfs using fuse05:18
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Dr_willisTheres ways TO write to ntfs.. but they are considerd risky05:18
Dr_willisso the bottom line is - how much do you want to gamble.05:19
Torched_it's ok, i'll use a cd05:19
intelikeyyes linuxbomb    and you can without it  but you can also end up with a hosed ntfs05:19
cerosyou still there coreymon?05:19
Dr_willisI just set up XP to read/write my ext3 drives. :)05:19
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morghanphoenixhow do I delete /home/user/.local/share/trash files? It's wasting 15gb of space on my hard drive05:19
Torched_what about fat32?05:19
Torched_can it do that?05:19
morghanphoenixsorry05:19
Dr_willisfat32 is very well supported05:19
linuxbombxp is already hosed05:19
morghanphoenixwrong channel05:20
intelikeyor so i hear.    i'm not totally convinced that it's not M$ hosing it and linux getting the blame....05:20
morghanphoenixallready asked here05:20
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coreymon77ceros05:20
cerosyeah05:20
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cerosdid you do sudo adept_updater05:20
intelikey"your linux crap ruined my beautiful wonderful perfect Micro-Soft Windows partition."05:21
intelikey"and i just got it back out of the shop too."05:21
intelikey:)05:21
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ceroscoreymon77, when you use adept_updater, tell me if it say "hold" anywhere05:22
coreymon77i dont use adept05:22
coreymon77i use apt-get05:22
alienjeff<intelikey> "your linux crap ruined my beautiful wonderful perfect Micro-Soft Windows partition." <--no such thing05:22
cerosok05:23
ceroswhen you use apt-get05:23
cerosat the beginning, does it keep telling you that there are holds05:23
intelikeyalienjeff don't quote my quote.  that's my quote of the day.... :)05:23
alienjeffheh05:23
alienjeffunderstood05:23
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intelikeybut yeah i totally agree.05:24
Momalkopete crashes as soon as It loads my contact list on this 1 msn account: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/202037 | console and backtrace output from the crash... Happens no matter which version i choose. #kopete doesn't believe its kopete related but something in kubuntu. HELP :)05:24
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alienjeffintelikey: ...I noted the <facetous> tags05:24
intelikey:)05:24
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Lam_does anyone use konquerer as their default browser?05:25
Lam_and why?05:25
ceroscoreymon77, did you add in the keys05:25
alienjeffLam_: Speed?05:25
coreymon77yup05:25
coreymon77two secs05:25
coreymon77ill brb05:25
intelikeyLam_ when i had kde installed i did.  cause it worked well for all i wanted...05:25
alienjeffintelikey: Ever use dillo or hv3?05:26
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linuxbombI like the idea of konquerer but it makes me feal funny using it05:26
intelikeyalienjeff yes but dillo has no js support.  not that i like java but my web mail needs js05:26
alienjeffGotta love the speed of dillo and hv3 for mainly text based browsing.05:27
intelikeyhv3   mmmm no.  m3b yes  lynx links links2 and elinks05:27
alienjeffhv3 is alpha, but very slick.05:27
intelikeyk i'll have to give it a look see05:28
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alienjeff<linuxbomb> I like the idea of konquerer but it makes me feal funny using it <-- define "feel funny"05:28
intelikeyor maybe not....05:28
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intelikeylinuxbomb we might not want to know.05:28
alienjefflmao05:28
linuxbombits kinda like how in windows you could use explorer as internet explorer and how ie has security holes, but i'm sure konquerer is better05:29
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alienjeffah....that's a relief.05:29
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intelikeythere you go reading on the lines again.   i though i tought you to always read between them....05:29
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alienjeffKonquerer is nice. It's just all the other KDE bloat that I don't care for.05:30
intelikeyso use kde-core + konqueror   and don't install the bloat05:31
mabreaux!buglist05:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about buglist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:31
linuxbombI like kde bloat05:31
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mabreaux!bug05:32
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/05:32
alienjefflinuxbomb: If you like KDE bloat, double your pleasure and install kubuntu! Oh wait. That's right. I'm in #kubuntu, aren't I?05:32
alienjeffnvm05:32
linuxbombthats why i got rid of suse05:32
intelikeyyes sudo apt-get install *buntu-desktop05:33
cerosyou still there coreymon7705:33
coreymon77yup05:33
coreymon77but brb05:33
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intelikeythat should bloat the thing pretty good05:33
Lam_is there a Qt based Xchat?05:33
Lam_or an equivalent05:33
intelikeykonversation  ?05:34
Dr_willisThere are several kde irc clients05:34
Dr_willisI perfer xchat :)05:34
coreymon77okay05:34
coreymon77im back for a sec05:34
cerosalright05:34
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cerosdo you see a message asking to accept a file i'm sending to you?05:35
Dr_willishmmm05:35
Lam_its nice talking in here05:35
Lam_a lot less hectic than #ubuntu05:35
intelikeyif it aint broke don't replace it.   if it is broke, bx about it.05:35
Dr_willis!info sirc05:36
ubotusirc: The full-featured Perl IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.211-9 (dapper), package size 104 kB, installed size 396 kB05:36
Dr_willis:)05:36
intelikey!kirc05:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
coreymon77brb again05:36
Dr_willis!info ksirc05:36
ubotuksirc: IRC client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 696 kB, installed size 2384 kB05:36
intelikeyah yea ksirc it is05:37
Lam_neat. i'll look that up. thanks05:37
Dr_willisJudge declines to restrict sale of Bully... :)05:37
Dr_willishttp://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061013-7985.html05:37
Dr_willisHeh heh -- 'computer games make kids violent!"05:37
Lam_ha yeah i read about that05:37
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Lam_he said he wouldn't let his kids play it, but that's no reason to not let it sell05:37
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ceroscoreymon77, http://pastebin.ca/20208505:38
Dr_willis:)05:39
Dr_willisGamers get political action group http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061012-7975.html05:39
Dr_willisWoo Hoo.. a PAC!05:39
Dr_williswe need a Linux/GPL/OpenSource Pac!05:39
intelikeycoreymon77 just a thought, but if you are going to continue to use the ctrl+alt+bs   you might find it to your advantage to exit the irc client first, so you don't have to recover your nick on each subsecquent session.05:39
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intelikeyquit       then kill x   ?05:40
intelikey/quit       then kill x   ?05:41
intelikey//\/\\/\\\/?05:41
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Search4Lanceranyone here try upgrading to Firefox 2 yet?05:42
zer0hournope05:42
zer0houris it up?05:42
rocabaarhola todos, me gustaria saber como utilizo los themes de kde en mi kubuntu.  he intentado varias cosas pero las bajo de www.kde-look.org pero no se pueden instalar05:42
Lam_!es05:43
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:43
Lam_:)05:43
intelikeyi wasn't sure that was  es05:43
Lam_no i'm pretty sure it was05:43
Lam_i understood everything he said lol05:44
Lam_i just don't know how to answer him05:44
m4jqphow do i stop X ? i want to run xorg -configure05:44
intelikeym4jqp sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop     but use  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   to reconfigure X05:45
Lam_doesn't that only stop kdm and not X?05:45
Dr_willisif kdm dies.. it kills off X05:45
intelikeyLam_ try it and see05:45
Dr_willistry it and see. :)05:45
Dr_willisfamous last words!05:45
Lam_i'll take your word on it05:45
Dr_willis"hay watch this!"05:45
Lam_ctrl+alt+backspace for hacks!05:45
m4jqpintelikey, does Xorg -config not work ?05:45
m4jqpim sort of an ubuntu noob05:46
intelikeyLam_ that doesn't stop X05:46
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Lam_of course not, but it's still fun :)05:46
intelikeym4jqp it's depreciated in *buntu05:46
lainprolianthello :)05:46
lainprolianthow are you all today?05:46
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zer0hourANGRY!05:46
m4jqpintelikey, why's that? it doesn't set up an xorg.conf.new ?05:46
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lainprolianti am sorrie to hear that you are angry zer0hour05:47
intelikeym4jqp use it if you want.....   but i gave you the info that i have.05:47
m4jqpintelikey, k k thanks05:47
lainproliantA few weeks ago, i installed Kubuntu on my desktop system and it works flawlessly and i love it ^_^05:47
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Lam_i would run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or if you know what you're doing, just edit the xorg.conf05:47
intelikeylainproliant but noe ?05:47
lainproliantI decided to put it on my laptop, i used GNOME Partition Manager to resize my NTFS, and i installed Kubuntu05:47
intelikeynow05:47
lainprolianti have  having a really wierd problem05:48
lainprolianti had to start the installer with a special VGA setting05:48
lainproliantit boots into X (KDE) perfectly fine, but text mode won't work05:48
lainproliantif i type CTRL+ALT+F1, the screen fades to white05:48
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lainprolianti think that this is because of a console mode incompatability05:48
alienjefflainproliant: let me guess...neomagic video system?05:48
lainproliantnope05:49
lainproliantATI Rage Pro on a Compaq Armada M30005:49
intelikeylainproliant try adding  vga=0x0f05  in your boot command   /boot/grub/menu.lst05:49
lainproliantah cool ^_^05:49
intelikeyi make no promices05:49
lainproliantand that will change how the console is setup through the life of the linux session?05:49
lainproliantits worth a try :)05:50
intelikeyit's worth a try yes05:50
lainprolianthey intelikey?05:50
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lainproliantis there a place where i can get a list of possible VGA values so i can try lots of them out?05:50
alienjeffFarking NeoMagic.05:50
lainproliantif necessary05:50
lainproliantlet me try and search for the file on google05:50
lainproliantthat might return some results lol05:51
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Lam_!sudoku05:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sudoku - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:51
Lam_bah05:51
intelikeylainproliant yes.   i have seen one.... but don't ask me where.  some place on the installed system....   a grep -Rie'vga=' / | less  might find it for you....  heheh05:52
cerosgtg coreymon7705:52
lainproliantokies05:52
coreymon77shoot05:52
coreymon77alright then05:52
lainprolianti have one more question before i go?05:52
cerosmaybe tomorrow05:52
cerossee ya05:52
alienjeffNite, folks.05:53
Dr_willishmm05:53
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lainproliantis there any way that i can implement a click lock system?05:53
Dr_willisdefine 'click lock'05:53
lainprolianthehe ^_^05:53
lainproliantokies05:53
lainproliantwell, a mouse panel, if you click and drag and let go, and then drag again, it remembers that you are dragging a window or object or else05:53
intelikeythe left alt key05:54
lainprolianthmm05:55
lainproliantnot working ^_^ its okay though05:55
lainprolianti will figure it out eventually lol05:55
lainproliantthank you for your help intelikey ^_^05:55
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lainproliantbyebye for now05:55
intelikeywelcome05:55
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intelikeyi think left alt drag only works on window drags...05:57
Dr_willisi though alt-mouse click - grabbed a window from anywhere.05:58
Momalkopete crashes as soon as It loads my contact list: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/202037 | console and backtrace output from the crash... Happens no matter which version i choose. #kopete doesn't believe its kopete related but something in kubuntu. HELP :)06:01
osiriswhat is the = to alsaconfig in kubuntu ?06:01
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intelikeyDr_willis it does.06:01
Dr_willisthe = ?06:01
intelikeyosiris alsaconfig ?06:02
osiriscant find it06:03
intelikeyalsa is basic  not gui property.  so  *buntu is all the same there06:03
osirisdoes it go by a different package name06:03
Dr_willisI tend to install the different alsa mixers06:03
Dr_willisalsactl       alsamixer     alsamixergui06:03
intelikeyapt-cache search alsa06:04
osirisi have alsamixer and alsactl06:04
osirisi need to reasign audio devices basicly06:04
intelikeyalsaplayer is ok06:04
osirisif i boot with my usb headset in, it takes over alsa, andi  rather have my main sound come out through my soundblaster06:05
Dr_willishmm not tried a usb headset yet.06:05
intelikeyalsa-tools - Console based ALSA utilities for specific hardware06:05
intelikeyalsa-tools-gui - GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hardware06:05
intelikeyalsamixergui - graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver06:05
intelikeyalsaplayer-alsa - PCM player designed for ALSA (ALSA output module)06:05
intelikeyi know.  don't flood.06:06
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Linux_GaloreIve tried a usb headset, they work just you have to reboot to get HAL to use them06:09
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Linux_Galoreits the only issue I still have with Linux these days, Linux doesnt switch between sound devices on the fly very well06:10
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Linux_Galorealthough apparently there is a fix in the wings for this issue06:10
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Momalkopete crashes as soon as It loads my contact list: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/202037 | console and backtrace output from the crash... Happens no matter which version i choose. #kopete doesn't believe its kopete related but something in kubuntu. HELP :)06:11
intelikeyhave to reboot ???   that doesn't even sound *nix'ish06:11
Dr_willisYou dont want to know the fighting ive done with windows and usb-sound devices. :P06:11
Momallinux_galore: guess what kopete now crashes everywhere on this acccount >_< no matter what login >_<06:12
Dr_willisMost likely - you could unplug the device and restart that hal service06:12
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Linux_GaloreMomal: I noticed when I installed kubuntu allot of things that I would have thought would be installed were not06:12
Linux_GaloreMomal: so I manually went through the kde stuff in adept and installed all the bits and pieces06:13
HawkwindMomal: Have you tried completely removing ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete and then trying to run kopete ?06:13
MomalLinux_Galore: what typa pieces?? :S06:13
Momalyup many times06:13
Linux_GaloreMomal: Ive done it for both of my machines and I dont seem to have issues when I do updates like everyone else06:13
MomalIf i clear all the config for it Ican run kopete login to msn and it works fine... when i goto login to my main msn account i use it crashes kopete06:14
Momalcrashes just after the contact list loads06:14
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Linux_GaloreMomal: have you looked on the kopete home page to see if there is anything06:14
Linux_GaloreMomal: might be a bug06:14
Linux_GaloreMomal: or ask in the kopete room06:15
Linux_Galorechannel*06:15
Momalhasn't been anything that Ican see.. tried older versions as well thats what #kopete suggested and cna't seem to get any of it to work06:15
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Linux_GaloreMomal: go into adept and search under kde and check to see that all the base 3.5.5 stuff is installed06:16
Momalhttp://kopete.kde.org doesn't even say that 0.12.3 has been released >_<06:16
HawkwindMomal: Because it hasn't06:16
HawkwindMomal: You running Edgy or Dapper ?06:16
Momalwhat about package just called kde?06:17
Momaldapper06:17
Linux_GaloreMomal: kde and check the version06:17
HawkwindMomal: Where did you install 0.12.3 from ?06:17
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Momaljust updated kde to 3.5.5 via adept06:17
HawkwindAhhh, 3.5.5, that's why06:17
BlackenHow *is* 3.5.5, anyway? I've heard some people say it's pretty good, but others have said it's painful.06:18
HawkwindMomal: dpkg -l kopete06:18
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HawkwindBlacken: It's got lots of issues in Dapper06:18
Linux_GaloreI swapped to 3.5.5 with zero issues on both my machines06:18
RobNyc_how can i boot kubuntu edgy in console mode only ?06:18
HawkwindBlacken: Though it works quite well in Edgy06:18
HawkwindRobNyc_: Might try #Ubuntu+1 as that is the Edgy channel06:18
RobNyc_ty06:18
RobNyc_Hawkwind, i thought the linux commands works everywhere06:18
Linux_GaloreRobNyc_: in the login window you can swap to term login06:19
intelikeyRobNyc_ add  1   to the boot line in grub06:19
Dr_willisI got 3.5.5 working.. but really aint seen much of a diff between it and the earlier.06:19
RobNyc_thanks intelikey and Linux_Galore06:19
HawkwindRobNyc_: They probably do, but best to talk to the channel that is for Edgy06:19
RobNyc_tru ty06:19
RobNyc_Hawkwind, :)06:19
Linux_GaloreRobNyc_: in one of the drop downs in the login it allows you to swap to a terminal login so you can install nvidia etc06:20
RobNyc_i dont see that06:20
HawkwindRobNyc_: It's in the KDM GUI login screen06:21
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Linux_GaloreRobNyc_: hold on a sec06:21
Momalyea kde 3.5.5 is fine just when i went to latest kopete that messed up >_<06:21
Momalhawkwind: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/20213306:21
HawkwindRobNyc_: Hit the button on the left06:21
Lam_does kubuntu have the gnome login screen?06:21
HawkwindLam_: No, it has the Kubuntu screen06:21
Lam_i wonder where i read that it said instead of kde's login, it had a gnome login06:21
Lam_thanks for the clarification06:21
RobNyc_when i get the boot screen press esc,, and now im in the boot screen.. i typed failsafe but that didnt do.. it said could not find kernel image lol06:22
Linux_Galoreyeah in the Kubuntu login screen in the menu there is a option for "console login" select that06:22
RobNyc_sorry im gonna take it over to ubuntu+1 since its edgy so i wont bother anyone here06:22
Momalthe package called "kde" under adept shouldi have that installed becuase when i select to install it there is abunch of stuff it wants to get06:22
RobNyc_thanks06:22
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HawkwindMomal: Try it and see06:22
Linux_GaloreMomal: check the version it might be uninstalling 3.5.5 and swapping back06:23
Lam_what's kde's window manager?06:23
Lam_gnome has metacity06:23
intelikeyMomal kde is a meta package the is designed to depend on ....06:23
Linux_GaloreLam_: kdm06:23
Lam_how integrated. thanks06:23
Linux_Galoresorry06:24
Momaldoesn't give a version just has: candidate version: 5:45ubuntu106:24
intelikeykde is prolly version 45  for dapper06:24
KDEfanboyno, the window manager is kwin. kdm is the display manager06:24
Linux_GaloreLam_: kwm sorry06:24
Linux_GaloreMomal: when you select it you can see a more detailed view it should show you what its going to install06:25
Lam_ok thanks06:25
Momallinux_galore: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/202139 <,-- thats what it wants to do when i try to install it06:26
HawkwindMomal: Looks like you didn't install much of 3.5.5 then.  I'd suggest you install that stuff.06:27
HawkwindMomal: Are you sure you're using Dapper sources and not Edgy ?06:27
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Linux_GaloreMomal: so thats what "Preview Changes" shows06:28
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jontecanyone have anything that I should know before I install the ruby and rails packages?06:29
jontec!ruby06:29
uboturuby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB06:29
Momalyea... when i updated i just did the fetch updates then full upgrade and let it to the rest... | http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/202143 <-- my sources list|06:29
jontec!rails06:29
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Linux_GaloreMomal: dont install that its the old stuff06:30
Momalso i shoudl go ahead and let it install all the stuff ?06:30
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Momalk06:30
Linux_Galoreno I have the same on my machine and its not marked as installed and when i look at the package details its comes from the old kde repo06:30
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Linux_GaloreMomal: you can see in details were the packages are coming from06:31
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goofyanyone know a good guide to install xlg ang compiz06:32
Momaluse beryl06:33
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Momalif you have nvidia card: http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5063-howto-xgl-beryl-kubuntu-dapper-with-nvidia06:33
Linux_GaloreMomal: it should show  4:3.5.5  in the version06:33
goofythanks06:33
wizardintelikey: i still wanna fix dapper if i can i just don't know how.06:33
Momalif ati there should be a howto in the same forum06:33
Linux_GaloreMomal: if its new06:33
MomalLinux_Galore: arr ok... hmm now what to do to try and fix kopete :(06:34
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aosinskihey all. has anyone tried the photoshop cs2 under wine trick?06:37
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Linux_GaloreMomal: just go through them all and check for 3.5.506:39
Linux_GaloreMomal: I suspect it missed something06:40
unix_infidelaosinski: PS7 runs flawlessly in cxoffice and wine respectively.06:40
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Linux_Galoreor there is a dep change were a lib is now in another package but was never updated06:40
Momalthough all the kde related stuff ?06:40
Linux_Galoreyes06:40
unix_infidelCS and CS2, respectively, have not been so fortunate.06:40
aosinskithere have been reports circulating of CS successfully running under wine06:40
ccherrettI don't have a /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to add the aoss to make flash play sound. Can I just create the file?06:40
Dr_willisyes06:41
unix_infidelaosinski: right, what did i say exactly?06:41
HobbseeMomal: is this for dapper?06:41
Linux_Galoresomeone posted on dig a howto on running photoshop under wine for ubuntu06:41
unix_infideli said pc7 works flawlessly, and CS and Cs2 havent been so fortunatey, as they do not run as "flawlessly"06:41
Momalin the candidate version it should have 3.5.5 in there?06:41
Linux_Galorejust a few days ago06:41
Momalhobbsee: yes06:41
HobbseeMomal: and you're missing kopete?06:42
unix_infidelCS and CS2 require multiple reg hacks in wine and must be run as a win2k06:42
HobbseeSTRIKE!06:42
HobbseeMomal: my fault.06:42
aosinskii know that.06:42
aosinskibut i was wondering if anyone was able to test it out and see how functional it is.06:42
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Linux_GaloreHobbsee: no he has kopete but it crashes but I have the same version as he does and it works fine06:43
HobbseeLinux_Galore: ahh.  but the lack of kopete for kde 3.5.5 is my fault though06:43
Hobbseeis there a good backtrace for it?06:43
MomalHobbsee: kopete crashes as soon as It loads my contact list: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/202037 | console and backtrace output from the crash... Happens no matter which version i choose. #kopete doesn't believe its kopete related but something in kubuntu. HELP :)06:44
unix_infidelaosinski: #winehq would be a good place to ask.06:44
Hobbseeoh yay, those packages got done anyway :)06:46
Momaleh?06:46
Hobbseethe kopete 0.12.3 packages for kde 3.5.506:46
Momalyea.. and what about them ?06:47
Hobbseei didnt think they'd been made06:47
Momaloh06:47
HobbseeMomal: what happens if you rm /home/sniperzero/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf?06:48
Hobbseei wonder why it thinks it has 0 size...06:48
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Momalkonversaion jsut had an error instantly saying it can't open it06:49
Momalkonversation*06:49
Momalwant me to run kopete?06:49
jontecokay, I have a problem trying to install packages T_T this hasn't happened before. Are there any problems with the servers? I am using the ones without any prefixes (no us.*)06:49
Hobbseeyeah, try it06:49
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Hobbseejontec: want to pastebin the errors you get please?06:50
aosinski<unix_infidel>, looked up the wine db but so far no recent comments on the actual usability.06:50
Momalall the console output and backtrace seem to be the same06:50
unix_infidelaosinski: like i said, i run native.  no need for wine unless its some productivity software like office 200306:50
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HobbseeMomal: okay, i'd try closing konversation and kopete, and running rm -r .kde/share/apps/kabc06:51
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Hobbseeand i'm not sure what happens if you remove the lock while it should be in action06:51
Momalk will kill konversation remove it and return06:51
jontecIt's only the general Adept error.06:51
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Hobbseejontec: try with "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"06:52
Hobbseejontec: and pastebin what that says06:52
jontecAs in "there was a problem downloading the packages or it will break pacakges" something along those lines... I checked the details and didn't see any conflicts though...06:52
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Hobbseejontec: or hit show details, if it'll let you06:52
jonteck, one sec.06:52
Hobbseeit's probably trying to install an extra package or something, and adept is dying over it06:53
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Momalkopete still crashses with same info06:53
Manyfoldi have a with wine everytime i mount a cd and use it under wine i don't get it umounted again always get that device busy error06:54
MomalHobbsee: any other ideas :S...06:55
pacmanI've got a couple questions......06:55
MomalLinux_Galore: Ilooked though all the kde stuff and doesn't eem to be anything not installed that i think should be :S06:55
Hobbseepacman: shoot06:56
pacmanHow can I set it up that when I right click on the top of the window, it automatically minimizes06:56
jontecI have results, I'm about to pastebin them...06:56
HobbseeMomal: none, except for moving ~/.kde out of the way, restarting kde, and seeing if you can login to kopete iwthout a problem then.  if you can, it's a config problem somewhere06:56
Momalnope still crashes... tried that already and on another user login it crahses now as well06:57
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Hobbseepacman: i'd try right clicking on the top of the window, clicking advanced, special application settings or something, but i think you're after something else06:57
HobbseeMomal: damn.06:57
HobbseeMomal: got kopete-dbg installed?06:57
jontecHobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26711/06:57
goofyif i were to type: sudo gedit     a text editor should open right?06:57
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pacmanhobbsee: yeah, I looked in there, but didn't see what I was after06:58
Momalkopete-dbg isn't in my list :S.. only have kopete, kopete-dev and kopete-meanwhile06:58
goofysorry wrong windo06:58
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HobbseeMomal: sorry, kopete-dev06:58
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elknof1hi everyboy...  how do i format a floppy disk??06:59
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MomalHobbsee: nope will install it now06:59
elknof1do i need to use qtparted?06:59
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MomalHobbsee: same errors still :S07:00
HobbseeMomal: i was hoping it'd give you a better backtrace07:00
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T3hWiz0rd!nvidia07:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:01
MomalHobbsee: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/202177 <-- thats just from latest one maybe you can see something different in it :S07:02
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Momalthis sucks07:05
HawkwindMomal: Famous saying out there....latest and greatest isn't always the best07:09
Momalcan someone find me a deb of kopete 0.11.x ? it worked thats what i had before update07:09
HawkwindMomal: Many hits on google for it07:09
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Momalmany hits that lead to nothing that helps me.. already looked on google for ages for one07:10
Momalhow do i remove everything to do with kde? and then redownload/install it all ?07:12
jontecHobbsee: no errors on apt-get when I use the .us for the repo mirrors that didn't work07:12
Hobbseejontec: try what you just tried in adept?07:13
wizardZOMG07:14
wizardi reformatted kubuntu and reinstalled the nvidia drivers and... behold the beaver! it works07:14
jontechobbsee:I just tried installing the package that wouldn't install in adept and it is downloading the files fine.07:14
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Hobbseejontec: nice07:14
wizardHobbsee: !!! my old friend07:15
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jontechobbsee: any reason why they both shouldn't work?07:15
Hobbseehey wizard07:15
wizardHobbsee: hey, you ever talk to kkathman anymore?07:15
jontecI wasn't using them at the same time, but yeah.07:16
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wizardHobbsee: im testing the waters of kubuntu again07:18
Hobbseewizard: i havent in a while, no :(07:18
Hobbseejontec: i'm keeping my mouth shut on that one :P07:18
wizardHobbsee: hes around... can find him in #suse sometimes.07:19
Hobbseenice :)07:19
jonteck07:19
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jontecI have an awesome project ahead of me. I'm going to be working with ruby on rails.07:22
jontecI cannot wait.07:23
jonteclol.07:23
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Momalgarrr... there is no other damn kde package that can be installed that isn't just another program freeken hell >_<07:23
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jontecmomal: what else are packages for? O_o in other words, i don't know what you mean... lol.07:25
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charlie5hi07:26
charlie5i can;t seem to get port forwarding working with ktorrent ... can anyone help ?07:26
Momalwell basically kopete wont run because its been stupid and there aren't any other kde dependencies or libs or what ever to install that might make it run07:26
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jontecinstall gaim07:28
augie-are there any other irc clients other than Konversation for kubuntu?07:28
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jontecgaim07:28
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jontec!gaim07:28
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.07:28
augie-i dont like kopete :|07:28
augie-i`ll try gaim07:28
qorPSI?07:29
CVirus!java07:29
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:29
qorunless it's dead... haven't used it in a while07:29
jonteclol. hmm... now this is the part I am a little shaky on. I think adept will install the dependencies so that you can run it.07:29
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jontecsince gaim is gnome.07:29
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Momalbut i want kopete >_<07:30
MomalIdont' see how it can just not work :S07:31
jontecso the dependencies for kde aren't setup correctly?07:31
jonteclike they aren't all there or what?07:31
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Momalthey are according to everything... kopete just crashes when it logs into one of my msn accounts07:31
jontecI'm just curious07:32
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Momali have a console output and backtrace if that is any use to you07:32
Hammadi need help with konqueror07:32
jontecnope.07:32
jonteccoz I am a noob.07:32
HammadOpen konqueror and select the top most tab in the sidebar. Right click on it then Configure > New > Add Baghira Sidebar . A new tab appears on top of the sidebar, select it.07:32
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Hammadin konqueror where the hell is the "top most tab in the sidebar"07:32
Hammadim confused as hell07:32
Momalsomeone want to tell me what to do to remove everything kde releated and reinstall?07:32
Hammadany one hlello?07:33
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jontecum.,..07:33
augie-will kubuntu setup a dual boot automatically?07:33
jontecokay hammad...07:33
Hammadjontec - yes?07:33
jontecpress f907:33
jontecsorry for the delay07:33
jontecI think that is what you meant?07:33
Hammadin konqueror?07:33
Hammadf9?07:34
jontecyeah07:34
jontecyes07:34
jontectaht shows you the tabs on the side of the window07:34
jontecthat*07:34
HammadOpen konqueror and select the top most tab in the sidebar. Right click on it then Configure > New > Add Baghira Sidebar . A new tab appears on top of the sidebar, select it.07:34
Hammadugh right click and i shud get configure?07:34
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jontecno, if it's not there try right-clicking and choosing add new07:35
Hammadhmm07:35
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Hammadit doesnt say "add baghira sidebar"07:35
Hammadand im guessing this has somethin to do with a sidebar and not tab....07:36
jontecI'm sorry. I don't have any clue then.07:36
jontecwell the side bar comes out from the tab.07:36
jonteclike the amaroK one07:36
Hammadhow do i access amarok07:36
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jontecit's the top button on the sidebar07:37
jontecit's blue and has a wolf in the middle07:37
jontecbut ouside of Konqueror.. it is...07:37
jontecKDE menu> Multimedia07:37
Hammadhmm07:38
Hammaddo you get that im trying to add a baghira sidebar07:38
Hammadand i dont see option saying add baghira sidebar anywhere07:38
Hammadthis is so frustrating hm07:38
Hammadi cant believe im stuck at this step07:38
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KDEfanboyHammad: is the sidebar open in Konqueror on the left side?07:39
feethey. im trying to repair a botched grub setup. but it keeps complaining that it cant find the bios drive for /dev/evms/hdb ... what could be causing that?? thanks07:39
Hammadyes it is07:39
HammadKDEfanboy - yup07:39
HammadKDEfanboy - i see amarok n everything07:40
KDEfanboyHammad: is the the top button with the wrench icon there?07:40
HammadKDEfanboy - nope07:40
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HammadKDEfanboy - any clue how to get this button ur talkin about?07:40
kenoxwhile booting video mode not supported comes07:41
KDEfanboyHammad: right click any of those buttons07:41
kenoxthe message goes07:41
kenoxand everything is fine07:42
kenoxwhat is the problem07:42
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KDEfanboyHammad: then from the menu that pops up when you right click, go to "Configure Navigation Panel'07:42
HammadKDEfanboy - yup okay i got it there ... k i guess im in the right spot now... just i cant see Baghira sidebar in my options when i go add new07:43
KDEfanboyHammad: if you just installed it, you need to restart Konqueror first07:43
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jontecadios you guys.07:46
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CVirusHammad: an Egyptian you are ?07:54
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Crissihello08:00
Crissii just installed dapper and additional kde 3.5.508:00
Crissiif i put a usb stick on my laptop i got the popup but nothing happens (it should open a konqueror)08:01
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Crissiwhats missing/wrong?08:01
HawkwindKnown issue08:01
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HawkwindEveryone on the ML's have been talking it about it for a couple of days08:02
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CrissiHawkwind: how to fix?08:03
HawkwindThere isn't one according to everyone on the mailing lists08:03
HawkwindIt's a known issue08:03
Crissii still know it .08:03
Crissibut i want to know how fix08:04
HawkwindThere isn't one, hence it is a known issue currently08:04
Crissiwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa08:04
Crissithis is bad08:04
luca_hi everyone08:04
HawkwindMount it manually from a terminal, not very hard to do08:05
Crissidebian packages work fine... whats different from debian packages08:05
Crissiif i had know that before i dont had installed dapper08:05
luca_does anyone know how to fix the not-unicode character problem with knonversation and kopete?08:05
luca_what's the problem Crissi?08:05
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Crissiluca_: kde media mount doesnt work08:06
Crission 3.5.508:06
Hawkwindluca_: Automount doesn't work in KDE 3.5.5, it's a known issue without a fix at the moment08:06
luca_what does this imply? I work fine with usb pens and cds...08:07
Crissii find out some...08:08
Hawkwindluca_: In KDE 3.5.5 on Dapper ?08:08
Crissipmount manually from ternimal works as user08:08
luca_Ubuntu 6.0608:08
luca_kde08:08
luca_is dapper 6.10?08:09
Crissihttp://paste.debian.net/1485208:09
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Hawkwindluca_: No, 6.10 is Edgy, still beta, not final08:09
luca_uhm if kubuntu 6.10 has such a big issue...why should I ever install it? o_O08:09
luca_ah ok08:10
Hawkwindluca_: He's having issues with KDE 3.5.5 on 6.06, Dapper08:10
Crissii use dapper -> stable08:10
luca_uhm nothing I had heard of sorry...08:10
Crissipmount is called from kde i guesss... pmount works08:10
Crissinow we have to find the reason whats missing on kde08:11
luca_does anyone know how to solve the unicode problem with kopete and konversation by the way?08:11
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Crissiinteresting... after mount with pmount the desktop icon came08:11
luca_I am italian, and every time i try to use a character with an accent...well, e.g., e' = 08:12
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Momalhawkwind: how can I go about removing kde... and everything to do with kde then reinstall(download) it again08:16
|GaiJin|anyone mind helping me with nvidia and twinview??08:17
luca_there was a page somewhere, linked to from the forums...08:17
luca_noone knows for kopete?08:17
Momalyour lucky kopete even works for you >_<08:17
|GaiJin|hmmm... my special chars are working in kopete..... 08:19
Crissiluca_: i use sim :)08:20
|lostbyte|Momal, sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop;sudo apt-get clean;sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:22
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Momalwill that remove all the configs as well? I want to make sure no trace of kde was there so its pretty much impossible for it to screw up again08:23
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|lostbyte|Momal, Yes, the config08:23
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|lostbyte|s as well. make sure you have no ~/.kde/ after the first command. If so Rename it or remove it.08:24
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arukurois there anyone here i just got linex and im trying to learn a bit08:26
|lostbyte|Momal, By the way, the above is to get a KDE updates, but you could always do. sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop. If you want no updates. :)08:26
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|lostbyte|arukuro, We all are..08:27
arukuroits nice to know im not alone08:27
Momalarr yea i want it to remove it all then to get all the latest08:27
|lostbyte|:)08:28
arukuro:)08:28
arukuroi actually was wondering about games i downloaded wine and I got a game on the way do most games work08:29
|lostbyte|!wine08:30
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:30
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|lostbyte|huh, Go to their official website, They have an open db of what apps/games work. Check it out.08:30
arukurothanks very much08:31
|lostbyte|np ;)08:31
arukuroill try not to ask to many perverbial stupid question but since i just got this today there may be more to come but so far im glad i got this instead of windows08:32
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mikael_lu :)08:33
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|lostbyte|arukuro, it would be better asking wine questions at #winehq08:33
arukurook thx08:35
arukurodoes anyone know if wine will work with americas army08:36
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Momalapt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop | that just removed one package :S not all of kde08:36
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|lostbyte|Momal, thats what you call a meta package.08:37
|lostbyte|Momal, TO see what all it installs, which is alot. do...08:38
|lostbyte|apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop08:38
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pcullerHello all I just installed kde 3.5.5 and hard disks desktop icons seems not to have connection with hal at all08:39
pculleranyone is experiencing the same?08:39
Momalthen how I make it remove all of kde?08:39
|lostbyte|Momal, the command you just asked about, that will remove.08:40
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MomalReading package lists... Done08:40
MomalBuilding dependency tree... Done08:40
MomalPackage kubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed08:40
Momal0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.08:40
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|GaiJin|what does the option "screen 0" in device section in X do??08:43
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pcullerAfaik it takes the default screen available08:45
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rredd4how can i check the integrity of kubuntu desktop cd without installing kubuntu.  I am installing it in a friends computer and i want to check before i go to there house.08:49
rredd4i md5 the d/l, it was ok08:49
|lostbyte|rredd4, That should do it.08:50
T3hWiz0rdis there a command in console to say what name of the distrobution you're on is?08:50
rredd4lostbyte  i have done this before, and the cd failed on me... i guess the cd burn was bad..08:51
rredd4and md5 was good08:51
rredd4thats why i want to check the cd after its burned08:51
|lostbyte|do the md5sum on the device directly, should get you the same hash too.08:52
rredd4ok08:52
rredd4ty08:52
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MomalHow can i remove everything related to kde ??? removing kubuntu-desktop doesn't remove anything but just kubuntu-desktop package even with the --purge command09:01
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Linux_GaloreMomal: removing kde-base should remove everything09:12
Momalits not :S09:13
Linux_Galorewell without kde base nothing works really09:13
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Momalcant' even find kde-base but kdebase wants to just remove:  kde-core kde-devel kdebase | whats it mean if it shows kde-core* kde-devel* kdebase*09:14
Linux_GaloreMomal: thats basically all of kde09:14
Momalso that will remove everything ?... then just apt-get install kdebase for it to all come back ?09:15
Linux_GaloreMomal: no just  install kubuntu-desktop  the rest will install09:15
Momalk will try that09:16
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Momalif it doesn't work i'll be back signing in from crappy mirc >_<09:16
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MomalI removed that stuff and kde is still running :S09:19
zarrellihi09:19
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hypergood morning every109:23
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nybHej09:23
nybJag har problem med att styla kde, hur kan man gra fr att f det snyggt mm.?09:24
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hyperallanick: what language is that?09:24
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hyperallanick: swedish?09:24
allanickja09:25
hyper!swe09:25
hyper!sw09:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:25
allanickalla nick var upptagna, s jag bara tog ngot na,mn09:25
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allanicksorry, i thougt it was ubuntu-se09:25
hyperit's ok :)09:25
allanickhow to style kde?09:25
hyperyou have problems adding a new style to KDE?09:25
allanickfor example ;) i am newbie, i dont know how to get it cool ;)09:26
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hyperallanick: same here... at least considering using on guis :) I also need a small adviceon kde :)09:26
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allanicki join a swedish channel  ;)09:27
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chimaeragood morning. i'm installing 6.10 atm. since when can't i install /boot on a XFS partition? isn't kubuntu using GRUB anymore?09:27
hyperchimaera: kubuntu is still using GRUB09:30
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livingdaylightGood Morning Vietnam09:32
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chimaera_sry, got DC. has there been an answer to my question?09:37
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hyperchimaera_: Kubuntu still uses GRUB09:39
hyperbut I have some GUI question: You can between KMenu und the programs that run on this dekstop create shortcuts for other programs. How can I make the icons smaller and appear on two lines, so that I can add more icons without using more horizontal space?09:40
chimaera_mhhhh. strange world. now kubuntu bosses me around. neat09:40
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hyperchimaera_: I use Edgy and it runs fine for me...09:41
hyperbut then I don't know what XFS is :)09:41
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orient2000I erased 2 files. Is it pissiblbe to get them back?09:42
DemonThingnot easily09:43
DemonThingif it's possible at all09:43
hyperorient: if you have backupped them its easy09:43
DemonThingtrue09:43
chimaera_hyper: it'S a file-system i've been using for years. edgy won't let me install /boot on such a filesystem.09:43
hyperchimaera_: And what makes it different from ext3?09:43
DemonThingit's fancier I suppose09:44
DemonThinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS09:45
abattoirchimaera_: xfs and grub don't behave well together09:45
orient2000if it's not easy I will not bothrer. thks. how is new kda33.5.55?09:45
hyperchimaera_: is there a howto on ubuntuforums.org ? that says it makes the system quite a bit faster?09:45
abattoirchimaera_: this has apparently been fixed, but ubuntu still doesn't allow them to reside together09:45
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abattoirchimaera_: so you'd need a separate non-XFS /boot partition if you need XFS09:45
hyperorient2000: well, I don't see any difference but then I'm a noob and I don't use any eye candys and stuff...09:45
abattoirhi hyper :)09:45
hyperhello abattoir :)09:45
hyperabattoir: I have a KDE question: You can between KMenu und the programs that run on this dekstop create shortcuts for other programs. How can I make the icons smaller and appear on two lines, so that I can add more icons without using more horizontal space?09:46
orient2000I SEE diference when I log in don't you?09:46
chimaeraabattoir: this was never required until now. this is what i'm wondering about..09:46
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DemonThinggrub >=0.91 supports XFS09:47
abattoirhyper: from what i remember, the size of those icons are determined by the size of your kicker, i've never used them, so am not sure09:47
abattoirchimaera: afaik, its always been that way, maybe you installed lilo on the xfs partition instead of grub09:47
chimaeramy prob is not grub not supporting XFS but edgy not allowing be to istall on it. actually it's not that big of a prob, but i don't see the point.09:47
hyperabattoir: hmmm, well I'd just liked to have them in two lines (and hence smaller icons) so that I can add more programs there :)09:48
chimaeraabattoir: nope. using grub & XFS for years now09:48
hyperchimaera: can't you install edgy now and then afterwards chaning /boot to xfs?09:48
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chimaerafor starters, i dont went a separate /boot partition, i like it to be on /. and changing this would be a pain in the arse. anyhow. i can simply use ext3, i was just wondering.09:49
abattoirchimaera: as i said, afaik, having grub on an XFS /boot always creates problems(till it was fixed recently), maybe you were lucky ;)09:49
hyperabattoir: I wrote a small backup script ( http://www.phpfi.com/163499 ) but I wonder if I should add the u/mounting of the backup partition in the script also and not have it mounted by default?09:49
chimaeraabattoir: maybe.09:50
abattoirhyper: well, depends on your needs i guess :P09:51
abattoirhyper: if you use that partition only for backup, then makes sense adding it into the script09:51
abattoirhyper: else, if you use that partition for other stuff as well, then you might want it to auto mount at boot09:51
hyperabattoir: well, currently I have auto mount it at boot but it's only for backup...09:52
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hyperabattoir: well, then I will mount it for the script only :) thx09:54
abattoir:)09:54
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hyperabattoir: any suggestions for the script are welcomed ;)09:56
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orient2000W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371809:58
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orient2000how can I fix it?09:59
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XzanronHi.. i'm trying to install kubuntu. I've managed to get into the live CD ok.. but there are a couple of problems.10:03
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studentwhat problem?10:03
XzanronMy screen resolution is wrong, and it won't let me change it.10:03
Xzanronand 2.. it doesn't detect my hard drive properly.. so i can't install10:04
studentis your HD SATA?10:04
Xzanronyes and raided10:04
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studentoh, i see. you've changed your bios setting. make it compatible mode, (PATA + SATA)10:05
studenti have an experienced like that before10:06
Xzanronok.. i'll be back in a bit.. if i can figure out how to change that10:06
studentok.10:07
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Xzanronhmm.. can't find a setting for that10:11
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orient2000what shout I use to open .gz?10:14
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MilhousePunkRockHey everyone10:23
MilhousePunkRockI upgraded to Edgy lately, was ok so far...10:23
MilhousePunkRockNow after yesterday's upgrades, my wireless card is not working anymore...10:24
|GaiJin|anyone knowof a good working guide for twinview or anything like that....10:24
|GaiJin|MilhousePunkRock: your using EDGY.... it suppose to fuck up your system....10:24
crazy_penguinGood morning to all!10:24
MilhousePunkRockWell. I knew about the risk, but it worked fine for like 2 weeks.10:25
hyper|GaiJin|: Edgy works fine on my comp10:25
MilhousePunkRockBesides that. |GaiJin|, watch the language10:25
crazy_penguinIs kde 3.5.5 working properly? It's safe to upgrade?10:26
|GaiJin|on my too.... but I wouldn't be supprised if I installed something that made it not to work.... and yes... sorry bout the language10:26
TheGateKeeperMilhousePunkRock: what edge!! thought you where using arch?10:26
MilhousePunkRockTheGateKeeper: Hey... It's dual boot, remember?10:26
TheGateKeeperohhh I forgot10:26
MilhousePunkRockThough the upgrade to edgy messes up the menu.lst10:26
MilhousePunkRockmessed*10:26
TheGateKeeperohh joy10:27
MilhousePunkRockArch with E17 was not in a condition to use it for everyday tasks...10:27
TheGateKeeperthat is why I don't like doing upgrades you can never be sure what it breaks10:27
MilhousePunkRockSince Edgy was supposed to cure my trouble with Kubuntu, I upgraded10:28
MilhousePunkRockThe look'n10:28
MilhousePunkRockThe look'n'feel is really nice, but it's still kinda ... edgy ;-)10:28
TheGateKeeperhmm I shall wait untill at least the end of november10:29
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Xzanronanyone able to help me get kubuntu installed please?10:31
Xzanronit refuses to detect my hard drive10:31
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khirrello10:34
khirri've one question10:34
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khirri've installed ubuntu, but i wanna change my resolution10:34
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cpk2crazy_penguin: it should be safe to upgrade, I upgraded last night and havent seen any problems yet10:35
crazy_penguincpk2: i see. thx10:36
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khirri wanna change my resolution10:37
khirrplz10:37
khirrhelp10:37
khirrfor default there ir 640x48010:37
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khirr:(10:37
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fdoving!xconfig10:38
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:38
fdovingkhirr: ^^10:38
khirri'll check this now10:39
aanarchyhow i can get help here?10:39
fdoving!ask10:39
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:39
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aanarchyheh ok10:39
aanarchyI have dapper installed. The / and /home are on the same partition. I want to change my /home folder to be on a separate HDD/partition. anyone knows how i can do that without destoying my system?10:39
khirrhow can i open the console, i'm new in ubuntu, is so diferent to kde10:39
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Xzanronanyone able to help me get kubuntu installed please?10:40
Xzanronit refuses to detect my hard drive10:40
aanarchyalt-F2  and type konsole10:41
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aanarchyhm...noone knows?10:42
khirro gonna restart10:43
chimaeraaanarchy: not a big thing: create a partition, log out all users, login as root, copy the data to the new partition and change the mountpoint in /etc/fstab accordingly.10:43
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aanarchycan you please tell me how the mount point in fstab will look like? thanks10:44
chimaerajust look at the file. it's like "/dev/hda4      /home      ext3      defaults        0       0 "10:45
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aanarchyThank you very much chimaera !10:46
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chimaerayou're welcome10:46
fdovingaanarchy: first, reboot to 'recovery mode' then partition the disk 'cfdisk /dev/disk' (replace /dev/disk with the /dev/entry of the disk with the new partition on) then format it to ext3, 'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/newpartition' (replace /dev/newpartition with the /dev/entry of your new partition) continue with 'sudo mkdir /home2' then 'mount /dev/newpartition /home2' then copy the data 'rsync -av /home/ /home2' move the old home out of the way and put the 10:46
khirrcant change :(10:46
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khirrnow apeear, but i cant change10:46
khirrwhat is the command on konsole?10:46
Jazonhi channel10:46
Jazonis it possible to stick katapult up something where the sun doesn't shine???10:46
anders__I have tried to install synce so I can sync my windows mobile 5 phone with my laptop but can't get it to work! Any ideas?10:47
aanarchyok, thanks fdoving10:47
khirrwhat is the command to xong10:47
khirr?10:47
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FiretechJazon: check if you have a sling shot in the systray10:47
JazonFiretech: nope10:47
khirr?10:47
khirrpls10:47
FiretechJazon: also, katapult should only popup when you press alt+space10:48
khirri cant change my resolution10:48
Firetechkhirr: sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg10:48
khirrthanks10:48
Firetechwhen it asks for a password, type YOUR password10:48
fdovingJazon: in the run command dialog (kmenu -> run command) type 'dcop katapult MainApplication-Interface quit'10:48
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khirri see the option now in my system list, but when i select, this doesnt run10:49
Jazonfdoving: thx10:49
anders__Is it possible to install SynCE under kUbuntu?10:49
Jazonbut why was it popping up when typing numbers?10:49
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Jazonfdoving: will that disable it permanently or do i need to do it again next boot?10:51
fdovingJazon: don't know. if you manage to make it pop-up again, you can hit ctrl+c, and configure it.10:51
Jazonfdoving: ok.   thx10:51
fdovingJazon: if you logout cleanly, it should not restart.10:51
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khirrguys10:56
khirrone question10:56
khirrmy micro is AMD5410:57
khirr6410:57
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khirrshould i install 32 bits verion or 64?10:57
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fdoving3210:57
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khirrwhy?10:57
fdovingthen you'll get all the codecs, and flash and everything.10:57
khirrmean, better is have 32 bits version?10:58
fdovingyes. it's better to have the 32bit version.10:58
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khirrthanks, i gonna download it now10:58
khirrcya guys10:58
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MartyoIf I install edgy, can I upgrade it to the final version when it's available? or will I have to do a fresh install?10:59
fdovingyou can upgrade.10:59
fdovingeasily.10:59
Martyoexcellent10:59
fdovingit's a matter of clicking the 'update icon' in the lower right corner when it pops up :)11:00
fdovingpops up/appears11:00
Martyogreat11:00
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Martyowhat is the status of the ATI direct renderer? is it stable?11:01
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morghanphoenixHas it ever been? I think it may just be my card, but I've had no end of problems with direct rendering.11:02
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Martyomorghanphoenix: do you use the ATI.com official driver instead?11:06
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morghanphoenixI tried, but ended up just using xorg config, seems ATI drivers don't have good support for the rage 128 series.11:07
Martyoah11:07
morghanphoenixI'm getting a Radeon 9600 soon, that'll hopefully solve a few problems.11:07
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DarkWizzardhello all11:27
DarkWizzardcan anyone help me configure my tv tuner ?11:27
DarkWizzardwhen I enter xawtv the screen goes blank11:28
DarkWizzardand I cant exit from it11:28
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plasmonetwhen will kubuntu edgy be fully released approx?11:32
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milanhi11:33
milani've got a little problem :P11:33
milani tried to install gpar211:33
morghanphoenixSeems like a lot of things make the screen go blank11:33
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milanbut theres a broken install11:33
milanit's missing libpar211:33
milancan't find that package11:33
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milanand i can't remove gpar2 either11:33
morghanphoenixooh, root login to irc?11:33
chupahi 2 all11:34
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morghanphoenixthat was fast, think I scared him off?11:35
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plasmonetwhen will kubuntu edgy be fully released approx?11:35
ubuntuhello, pls help. Kubunt installation wants to reformat my xfs disks to ext3. do you know any way how to stop it?11:35
chupaoctober 2611:36
plasmonetok thanks two day before my birthday11:36
chupa;)11:36
morghanphoenixI like kubuntu for linux evangelism11:37
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morghanphoenixAll those free CDs and so simple to install and use anybody can do it.11:37
chupathats my first visit to irc chat.. was finding it boring and now understand i was wrong11:38
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morghanphoenixirc is either so boring you pass out in front of the screen or so active your fingers start to hurt from typing too much.11:39
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morghanphoenixStill trying to figure out this xchat though, konversation was much simpler, can't even figure out how to auto identify with xchat.11:40
chupaanyone here from ukraine?11:40
method|why are you using x-chat?11:40
morghanphoenixI'm trying out slackware11:40
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morghanphoenixx-chat is the default irc client.11:40
marek-skit says its going to format my partitions and does not give any options11:41
method|ic11:41
morghanphoenixI never liked the kubuntu partition editor11:41
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method|me either11:41
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method|pclinux's is way better11:41
method|plinuxos's11:41
morghanphoenixThe regular debian one is fine, slackware's is great, kubuntu's seems oversimplified.11:42
marek-skI dont like it either. I had to use fdisk because the editor messed up11:42
Xzanronwhat is the linux-image package? seems rather big... guessing by the version number it might be the kernel?11:42
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chupayes11:42
Xzanronok thanks11:43
morghanphoenixI also didn't like the lack of root user on kubuntu, keeps it simple though so I guess it's good.11:43
chupa12 days left till edgy release.. and then 2-3 days to download11:43
morghanphoenixwhat kind of connection you have11:43
morghanphoenixtakes me 20 min11:44
cpk2lack of root?11:44
plasmonetme too11:44
cpk2there is no lack of root...11:44
marek-skbut anyways, is there any advanced option somewhere?11:44
morghanphoenixit's there, it's just not turned on to begin with.11:44
chupai have 64 kbps11:44
morghanphoenixAhh11:44
chupaits average speed here11:44
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morghanphoenixI have 7000kbps, that's right, you said ukraine, yes?11:45
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cpk2surprisingly much of america is still stuck with incredibly slow connections too11:45
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cpk2all those people in th emiddle of no where in the mid west11:45
chupaye.. 1Mbit cost 400$ here.. and salary is about 200$ =)11:45
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morghanphoenixYeah, guess I'm lucky to live in Seattle.11:46
chupaand 64k cost 10$11:46
momalthe joys of irssi11:46
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morghanphoenixI pay about $80 for 7Meg ADSL11:46
chupalol11:46
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marek-skmorganpheonix: where can I find it_11:47
morghanphoenixeh?11:47
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morghanphoenixmarek-sk: find what?11:48
morghanphoenix:x11:48
morghanphoenixhow do you do that emote thing in irc?11:48
marek-skmorghanphoenix: the advanced option11:48
morghanphoenixI never found it for the kubuntu installer11:48
chupawill be back in 5 min11:49
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Martyohow do I update kubuntu? I can't find any update links/icons11:49
morghanphoenixI had to do full drive installs both times I set up kubuntu.11:49
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morghanphoenixapt-get update?11:49
Pazuzuapt-get upgrade11:50
morghanphoenixthe little adept icon should show up in your systray when there's updates11:50
morghanphoenixOne thing that sucks about slackware, slapt is nothing compared to apt.11:50
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ccherretthow can I get mplayer with apt-get?11:51
Martyomorghanphoenix: ah, thanks11:52
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Martyoreason I ask, last time I updated via the systray icon, I got an error half way through, and then kubuntu wouldn't boot11:52
morghanphoenixapt-get install m-player11:52
MartyoI'm trying via the console now11:52
morghanphoenixah, try dpkg-a11:52
morghanphoenixthat seems to help adept errors out.11:53
fdoving!adept crash fix11:53
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'11:53
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baptiste_bonjour  tous :)11:53
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morghanphoenixthat too11:53
morghanphoenixlol11:53
Martyoah, thanks ;)11:53
ccherrettmorghanphoenix: could not find package11:53
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morghanphoenixhave you tried add programs from the k-menu?11:53
fdovingccherrett: mplayer, and it's in multiverse.11:54
fdoving!repos11:54
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:54
morghanphoenixare your repos enabled?11:54
baptiste_xchat marche pas sous kubuntu?11:54
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morghanphoenixfr?11:54
paveroHATTRICK11:54
baptiste_oups =D11:54
ccherrettI have universe uncommanted11:54
neioanyybody know where I can get the SAP gui for Kubuntu?11:55
baptiste_im on a chan english???11:55
morghanphoenixmultiverse11:55
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morghanphoenixyes11:55
baptiste_sorry :P11:55
baptiste_i said, xchat don't work on Kubuntu?11:55
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morghanphoenixworked for me11:55
baptiste_ok...11:56
morghanphoenixKonversation is the default for kubuntu11:56
morghanphoenixYou know xchat?11:56
ccherrettthen sudo apt-get update?11:56
baptiste_yeah i read ot11:56
charlie5dec, but i thought i had them all installedhello ... how can i play .wmv movies ? ... all players say i need some co11:56
baptiste_yeah i know xchat on win3211:56
morghanphoenixHow do you set up auto-identify?11:56
mangorhi, have someone an idea how to configure a ISDN Card? Are ther some How To ?11:56
charlie5:/ ... try that again ...11:56
lupine_85konversation >> xchat ;)11:56
charlie5how can i play .wmv movies ? ... all players say i need some codec, but i thought i had them all installed11:57
lupine_85w32codecs11:57
fdoving!codecs11:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:57
morghanphoenixw32codecs11:57
lupine_85snap ;)11:57
baptiste_bye all :)11:57
charlie5:) ... thaks guys11:57
lupine_85it's all the windows .dll files that some players can use in linux11:57
morghanphoenixCan't seem to find w32codecs for slackware11:57
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lupine_85mplayer, kaffeine are your best bet11:57
lupine_85morghanphoenix: you can probably just ar -x the .deb file and copy them into the right place11:57
morghanphoenixkaffeine is great11:57
mangornewer .wmv files are not supported11:58
ccherrettmorghanphoenix: do you have the source url for multiverse?11:58
lupine_85or ask in #slackware or... something ;)11:58
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morghanphoenix!source-o-matic11:58
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:58
morghanphoenixthat's where I got mine.11:58
ccherrettcool thanks11:58
mangorsweet11:59
lupine_85you'd just copy the deb line and replace deb with deb-src ...11:59
T3hWiz0rdwhat is flash and mozilla firefox plugin fore it called in apt-get on kubuntu?12:00
mangor have someone an idea how to configure a ISDN Card?12:02
morghanphoenixno idea on the ISDN here.12:03
mangoryupp, looks like this12:03
morghanphoenixdo people still use those?12:03
mangorof course12:03
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fdovingT3hWiz0rd: flashplayer-mozilla12:04
mangorthere are also some people who use modems12:04
lupine_85!info flashplayer-nonfree12:04
ubotuPackage flashplayer-nonfree does not exist in any distro I know12:04
fdoving!info flashplayer-nonfree12:04
mangormodem is no problem12:04
fdoving!info flashplayer-mozilla12:04
ubotuPackage flashplayer-mozilla does not exist in any distro I know12:04
lupine_85bah, low ubotu-fu12:04
chupasome people? modems are still popular here12:04
fdovingit's in multiverse anyway.12:05
morghanphoenixModems seem to set up automatically on all distros nowdays12:05
mangorwhere is here? chupa12:05
chupaukraine12:05
lupine_85there's flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree12:05
mangorok12:05
morghanphoenixI used to own a shotgun modem12:05
morghanphoenixthat was interesting12:05
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chupahehe12:05
lupine_85I suppose since Ubuntu is for Humans, you can't assume everyone has BB :(12:05
lupine_85morghanphoenix:  MLPPP?12:05
mangorand ISDN is still popular here12:05
morghanphoenixlinked 56k modems12:06
mangorok was12:06
chupayou will laugh if you hear what computer do i have :)12:06
lupine_85yes, then :)12:06
morghanphoenixeh lupine?12:06
lupine_85mlppp == multilink point-to-point protocol12:06
mangorsomething less P1?12:06
morghanphoenixah12:06
lupine_85rather than bonding at. say, the IP layer12:06
morghanphoenixI just got rid of a 386sx212:06
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morghanphoenixUsed to have an 808612:07
lupine_85you can do it with BB as well but you get strange latency effects12:07
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mangori dont laugh about someones computer ...12:07
chupanah, a bit better.. celeron 600/256ram/geforce 212:07
morghanphoenixyup, wish I had linux then, win 1.012:07
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morghanphoenixYour video card is better than mine chupa12:08
chupareally?12:08
morghanphoenixYup, ATI Rage 128 Pro12:08
chupacool)12:08
morghanphoenixvram measured in k12:08
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mangorThinkpad?12:09
chupahere computers as well as other imported goods are very expensive12:09
lupine_85toshiba tecra12:09
lupine_85not sure how I'm going to cope without Beryl :(12:09
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morghanphoenixGetting a geforce 6 series or radeon 9600 for my birthday next month12:09
morghanphoenixhopefully12:09
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morghanphoenixCan't even enable transparency with my current card.12:09
lupine_85chupa: can't you buy one on eBay and get it imported as a "gift"? :)12:09
mangorgot some problems with S3 Savage on a Thinkpad 20  and Kubuntu 6.0612:09
maryenhey, anyone good with CUPS?12:10
chupalupine, i dont think it will be delivered ;)12:10
lupine_85it'll be running edgy, and if it goes wrong I have a crowbar to hand ;)12:10
mangorubuntu 5.10 works ....12:10
mangor... ok Standby isnt working proper12:10
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B-Minushey all12:11
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momalFresh install of dapper and everything completly updated with kopete WORKING!!!!! finall12:12
morghanphoenixhmm, kopete, I miss that one.12:12
morghanphoenixDon't like gaim much12:12
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B-Minus_hey all12:12
lupine_85I like kopete but it doesn't work through HTTP method for me, here12:13
morghanphoenixhey12:13
momalLinux_Galore: adept still didn't say about the configure -a but I ran it anyhow but didn't show anything.. but kopete is working thank freeken hell >_<12:13
B-Minus_im trying to install kubuntu on a dell latitide D620 but the install cd (6.06) just locks up after some time :( the same cd works on my other laptop12:13
B-Minus_is there anything i can try12:13
B-Minus_maybe install ubuntu or something ?12:13
lupine_85use the alt install cd instead?12:13
B-Minus_alt install cd ?12:14
lupine_85!alternate12:14
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.12:14
morghanphoenixif ubuntu installs it's really easy to switch over.12:14
B-Minus_expert :(12:14
lupine_85ignore the "expert" thing, it's dead easy12:14
lupine_85just text-mode12:14
B-Minus_:(12:14
morghanphoenixooh12:14
lupine_85nice ncurses interface12:14
morghanphoenixthat sounds nice, I hate that live CD12:14
marek-skmorghanphoenix: the installer got it right after 3rd try12:14
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lupine_85seriously, the hardest bit is the partitioning12:14
Sergohello12:14
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Sergoand how to configure my netcard in kubuntu 6.10?12:15
Sergoi'm the administrator and i cannot configure it12:15
lupine_85Sergo: K -> System Settings -> Networking12:15
Sergoit's not available12:15
B-Minus_!alternate12:15
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.12:15
Sergolupine_85 the administrator mode is required!12:15
B-Minus_hmmmm12:15
mangorpartitioning is a piece of cake, ive got several problems with install from the Live system12:15
Sergohow to enable this mone?12:15
Sergomode?12:15
lupine_85Sergo: in that case, run kdesu kcontrol12:15
lupine_85(in alt+f2 or a terminal or something)12:16
morghanphoenixI love manual partitioning.12:16
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T3hWiz0rdmorghanphoenix: i love pepperjack cheese12:16
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morghanphoenixThat's always been my biggest bitch about kubuntu12:16
morghanphoenixooh, mee too12:16
morghanphoenixand colby jack12:16
T3hWiz0rdhaha12:16
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B-Minus_or maybe i can try 6.10 ?12:16
B-Minus_not ?12:16
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lupine_85B-Minus_: you "can"12:17
lupine_85whether it'd make life easier is another matter12:17
B-Minus_but its still beta :s12:17
lupine_85they've got a fortnight before release, so it's not *that* beta12:17
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morghanphoenixThis close to release it should be fine12:17
lupine_85I installed just before knot 3, and then it *was* painful ;)12:17
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morghanphoenixis it even that12:17
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B-Minus_first im going to try with ubuntu and install kde12:18
lupine_85!schedule12:18
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule12:18
morghanphoenixI think it's under a fortnight now.12:18
B-Minus_if thats not working i try the alternate cd12:18
xstI have problems installing amarok 1.4.3. apt-get gives me an "amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable". What to do?12:18
morghanphoenixHow do you manage two different distros on the same HDD?12:18
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morghanphoenixYou need to use a boot partition?12:19
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morghanphoenixI had that same problem, couldn't fix it so I used automatix.12:19
morghanphoenixIt installed amarok perfectly for me.12:19
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morghanphoenixI was having lots of repo problems with kubuntu in the last few weeks.12:20
lupine_85morghanphoenix: you can give them separate /boot if you like12:20
lupine_85it doesn't matter too much, as if they're decent OSes they should detect each other12:20
lupine_85my problem with separate /boot partitions is that I always - always - run out of space12:21
morghanphoenixI want to put Kubuntu back on beside slackware, I love slackware, but it's not the best for trying to convert windows users with.12:21
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drbreeni tried to convert one windows user to slackware12:21
morghanphoenixI have 20 gigs for root12:21
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drbreenit was slick and stuff, but he switched to win98 after a few months12:21
Sergo_<Sergo> how to enable administrator mode in kubuntu 6.10 what i can configure network ??!12:21
Sergo_=] 12:21
Sergo_sergo is ping time out12:22
Sergo_is needed to use "su" ?12:22
TheGateKeeperSergo_: use sudo12:22
morghanphoenixI didn't mind win9812:22
Sergo_sudo? LOOL12:22
Sergo_what a lame12:22
morghanphoenixsu doesn't work right in kubuntu unless you give root it's own password.12:22
TheGateKeeper!sudo > Sergo_12:22
lupine_85I quite liked 95 ;)12:22
Sergo_I need to configure my netcard12:23
drbreenlupine_85: bah windows is the shit12:23
lupine_85Sergo_: kdesu kcontrol12:23
Sergo_and administrator mode is required12:23
Sergo_<lupine_85> Sergo_: kdesu kcontrol - what is this?12:23
morghanphoenixadd a password to root then12:23
lupine_85don't use sudo or su for GUI apps if you can avoid it12:23
TheGateKeeperSergo_: you can use sudo su12:23
morghanphoenixYou'll get su working fine.12:23
Sergo_kdesu kcontrol ?LOL12:23
lupine_85it'll run the KDE control centre12:23
lupine_85as root12:23
Sergo_how to set "su" ?12:24
Sergo_=] 12:24
Sergo_password to su12:24
lupine_85sudo passwd12:24
TheGateKeeperSergo_: just do sudo su12:24
morghanphoenixadd password to root account in kcontrol users12:24
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Sergo_konsole have a lame shrift12:25
Sergo_=[12:25
Sergo_ok12:25
Sergo_thanks12:25
lupine_85wha?12:25
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morghanphoenixI need to play with lilo, that cute little penguin is starting to bug me.12:26
momalumm after updating kde my default font looks really choppy :S.. I reisntalled video drivers any other idea to fix?12:26
morghanphoenixis anti-aliasing on?12:26
serenityThere is a Releaseparty for edgy eft in Hannover, Germany (28.10.06), have a look: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/ikhaya/307/12:26
momalyup just checked then its on (Use anti-aliasing for fonts) that one is on12:27
morghanphoenixhmm, only thing I know.12:27
momalI had the problem before I reinstall dapper and I just reinstalled vid drivers and that fixed it :S12:27
zorglu_sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig <- you can play with the option in that momal12:28
zorglu_i had trouble with my fonts too and fixed it with that12:28
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momali'll need to logout then back in or restart kdm for changes?12:30
DjDarkmanhy ,wich object can display a picture?12:30
zorglu_momal: i think so12:30
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DjDarkmanoups sorry :)(12:30
DjDarkmanwrong channel12:30
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morghanphoenixpayaso, eh?12:30
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Payasoupgrading to edgy.... :)12:31
morghanphoenixwhat does that mean?12:31
morghanphoenixmy roomate used to call me that all the time.12:31
Payasomorghanphoenix: payaso is... a person that work doing joke... Krasty on simpsons is a Payaso :)12:31
morghanphoenixlol12:31
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morghanphoenixHe never would tell me what it meant12:32
morghanphoenixthanks12:32
momalthanks for that all good now :D12:32
chupalol12:32
Payasomorghanphoenix: how is named payasos in english?12:32
morghanphoenixclown12:32
Payaso:)12:32
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chupadont anybody want to visit ukraine the nearest time?12:33
Payasosomeone had upgrade to edgy?12:33
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flaccidi do12:33
momalhmm for some reason the font prob is now when ever I run something under root lol? eg kdesu12:34
morghanphoenixI'm hopefully going to ireland next year if I can get the money.12:34
Payasoukraine capital, kiev12:34
morghanphoenixWant to get married where my family was from.12:34
Payasoflaccid: and had you been problems in the upgrading?12:34
chupapayaso where are you from?12:35
Payasochupa: from spain12:35
flaccidno i want go to to ukraine12:35
flaccidPayaso: a lot of people are. this is because it is beta.12:35
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Payasoflaccid: lol12:35
chupaflaccid just like a tourist or because of work?12:36
mangorive got no time to travel around the world12:36
Payasoflaccid: i have not problem with edgy, i am upgrading now :)12:36
flaccidchupa: anything if someone pays for me12:36
Payaso89,0kB/s 3h16m7s12:36
flaccidyou may run into problems12:36
flaccidthat is only the downloading yes12:36
Payaso3h16m for edgy :)12:36
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flaccidyet to do anything i assume12:37
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MartyoI've just installed kubuntu edgy, updated everything, and now when I click 'Log off', nothing happens12:37
zorglu_Payaso: is that the max your isp can provide ? or the servers are slow ?12:37
Sergo_what is wrong this kubuntu12:37
Sergo_i cant configure netcard..12:37
Sergo_i have no privileges12:37
Payasozorglu_: my max speed is 100Kb/s12:37
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zorglu_ok12:37
Payasozorglu_: why?12:37
mangorhave to write some exams in the next weeks12:37
zorglu_Payaso: just wondering12:38
morghanphoenixI get about 600k and pay for 7m12:38
chupaarghhh.. i also have exams in 2 weeks :(12:38
morghanphoenixkinda annoying12:38
Payasoin spain the conection are very slow and very expensive12:38
Sergo_this kubuntu sux12:38
Sergo_a lot12:38
morghanphoenixOld wiring in the building won't support my DSL speed12:38
morghanphoenixHave you given root a password?12:38
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zorglu_Payaso: really ? i was in spain 2years ago and some very good deal was advertized in the street12:38
morghanphoenixnice one sergo12:39
morghanphoenixignore the help, tell us it sucks and log off.12:39
morghanphoenixshould just told him rtfm12:39
zorglu_Payaso: in france, isp are really cheap and i was under the impression that spain was the same12:39
Payasozorglu_: in spain ADSL 1Mb/300kbps 50/month...12:39
mangorthis isnt very cheap at all12:39
morghanphoenixwoah12:39
zorglu_Payaso: ok... maybe i misread the advertizement...12:40
chupapayaso, that isnt slow.. i have 64kbps for 10$ per month12:40
morghanphoenixwhat's the exchange to usd?12:40
morghanphoenixlike 75 isn't it?12:40
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zorglu_i have 20mbit/1mbit for 20euro/month12:40
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Payasozorglu_: in the advertized not appear tax, line cost, etc...12:40
kubuntu-suxhello, how to switch to administrator user mode?12:40
zorglu_Payaso: oh this may explain it then :)12:40
morghanphoenixhello sergo12:40
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kubuntu-sux<morghanphoenix> hello12:41
thoreauputic!root > kubuntu-sux12:41
chupagonna eat something12:41
morghanphoenix!root >morghanphoenix12:41
mangorADSL 1500kbit/s plus telephone Flat 53 Euro12:41
thoreauputic!root12:41
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:41
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Payasozorglu_: in my university i have 50Mb/50Mb :)12:41
kubuntu-suxis not more simple like in ubuntu.. there are automatic password required and want to configure something?12:41
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morghanphoenixI add a password to root in users tab of kcontrol12:42
zorglu_Payaso: neat :)12:42
morghanphoenixlets you use su12:42
m4x1mumguys which vim is the gui version?? i installed vim gtk, but no gui came out if i run from terminal?12:42
kubuntu-suxand konsole is not required..12:42
kubuntu-suxto configure netcard12:42
Martyowhen I click Launch -> Logoff, nothing happens - what could be causing that? it's a fresh install of kubuntu edgy + updates12:42
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Martyoit's the AMD64 version12:42
Payasom4x1mum: gvim12:42
morghanphoenixwhat kind of net card are you using that kubuntu didn't detect and configure it automatically?12:42
kubuntu-suxi'm to lame to call program from konsole12:43
morghanphoenixI do it all the time, but I use blackbox.12:43
kubuntu-suxis there another way..12:43
m4x1mumi cant find gvim in adept :(12:43
kubuntu-suxto run program with all privileges?12:43
morghanphoenixkdesu program12:43
morghanphoenixdo that from the run line12:43
zorglu_kubuntu-sux: kmenu->system setting->network settings12:44
morghanphoenixalt-f2 I think12:44
Payasom4x1mum: sorry vim-gnome - Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GNOME2 GUI12:44
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morghanphoenixkdesu12:44
kubuntu-suxzorglu_ this is right, but when want to configure IP is not available ..12:44
kubuntu-suxthis is becouse i'm not under administrator12:44
morghanphoenixI use kdesu konqueror all the time to work on my root file system.12:44
zorglu_kubuntu-sux: so pass adminitrator ? there is a button for it12:44
kubuntu-suxzorglu_ from User account?12:45
morghanphoenixyeah12:45
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puttlickin which packet is /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us ?12:45
zorglu_kubuntu-sux: ? click on the button and give the password12:45
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Payasoputtlick: in xomodmap12:45
m4x1mumPayaso: thanks, i'll try that12:45
kubuntu-suxzorglu_ on what button to click12:45
kubuntu-sux?12:45
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zorglu_kubuntu-sux: the one with 'adminitrator' displayed on it :)12:46
kubuntu-suxzorglu_ from user account??12:46
lackdianthi, I have a problem with youtube sound12:46
lackdiantI can't hear the audio12:46
suredoi want to try ubuntu's gnome desktop on my kubuntu. is that safe? i've read some posts about loginproblems when doing that12:46
zorglu_kubuntu-sux: ok try to make complete sentence, i dont understand what you mean12:46
morghanphoenixgo to accounts, click the box to show system accounts, edit root.12:46
zorglu_suredo: yep it is supposed to work12:47
Payasosuredo: yes, it is sure, you will can to choose gnome or kde in kdm12:47
kubuntu-suxzorglu_ ok, but i didn't found administrator button in kmenu->system setting->network settings12:47
suredothanks, both of you :)12:47
m4x1mumstill the same the vi only came out within the terminal not gui on its own12:47
morghanphoenixhave you tried runnung kdesu program?12:47
zorglu_kubuntu-sux: hmm well i got one. which kubuntu version are you running ?12:48
kubuntu-suxi ubuntu is more simple... when want to configure network there is a password require and this is all12:48
Payasom4x1mum: vim is vim, the gui must to have another command, i think that is gvim but i dont remember i always use vim from console12:48
kubuntu-suxzorglu_ an 6.1012:48
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zorglu_kubuntu-sux: ohh this is edgy.. i dont use develpement version so i dunno it12:48
morghanphoenixSomething may be wrong with your install, it's just as simple in kubuntu normally.12:48
kubuntu-suxok12:49
morghanphoenixoh, edgy12:49
kubuntu-suxi will need probaly to delete it.12:49
kubuntu-sux(12:49
morghanphoenixwhat program are you trying to run?12:49
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zorglu_kubuntu-sux: as a side note, beginner may gain in using the stable version because they wont have to deal with all the issue of devlopement version12:49
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m4x1mumaaah, its vim -g, gvim is for windows12:49
zorglu_kubuntu_: in short i advise you to install dapper 6.06.1 instead12:50
kubuntu_ok12:50
morghanphoenixI should try edgy12:50
suredoone more q, anyone know the date for 6.10 release?12:50
Payasom4x1mum: i see12:50
Martyolol, kubuntu won't boot again...12:50
morghanphoenixin les than a month12:50
MartyoI give up, I'm trying the 32bit version12:50
Payasosuredo: 2612:50
morghanphoenixthere it is12:50
suredothanks, again :)12:50
m4x1mumfor vim settings, i just create .vimrc in my home directory?12:50
morghanphoenixsee, I told ya it wasn't even a fortnight.12:51
Payasom4x1mum: i use /etc/vim/vimrc12:51
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morghanphoenixyeah, now for editing xorg.conf and fstab12:52
morghanphoenixKubuntu spoiled me, it was so simple.12:52
morghanphoenixgreat, need to write udev rules too12:53
morghanphoenixI don't think I'm sleeping tonight.12:53
T3hWiz0rd`behave12:53
chupais there a irc client better then konversation?12:53
morghanphoenixor this morning as the case may be.12:53
morghanphoenixDefine better.12:53
Payasochupa: yes, bitchx but is for console12:54
morghanphoenixThere's lots that are different.12:54
morghanphoenixI have x-chat and bitchx12:54
morghanphoenixbitchx for blackbox12:54
morghanphoenixAm I delusional or does anyone else remember a distro named blackbox?12:54
Payasoi want to see a blackbox with xgl :)12:54
morghanphoenixdidn't last long, but boy was it fast.12:55
T3hWiz0rdPayaso: irssi pwns bitchx12:55
Payasoirssi is gay12:55
T3hWiz0rdyou wish itwas12:55
kubuntu_why there is more users that use ubuntu then kubuntu?12:55
flaccidi just plugged my usb flash drive in. didn't seem to automount, what can i do?12:55
kubuntu_=] 12:55
T3hWiz0rdkubuntu_: ubuntu is concidered to be easier since gome is less... functionable? than kde12:56
Payasoflaccid: mount it.... probably mount /dev/sda1 /mount/point12:56
T3hWiz0rdkubuntu_: kde can be very confusing to a basic user.12:56
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flaccidPayaso: why won't it automount. where is the settings for this?12:56
Payasognome is easier for home desktops, kde is better for developers and for work12:56
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chupaanybody tried xfce4?12:56
T3hWiz0rdPayaso: and for those who like a "do it yourself" approach at things.12:57
teledyn_khow different is kubuntu from ubuntu?  is it as current?12:57
morghanphoenixI need to add my ext-hdd to fstab, I hate mounting everything in konsole all the time.12:57
Payasoflaccid: i dont know, my kubuntu always automount it12:57
chupai prefer kde for my desktop12:57
m4x1mumthe only difference that i know is that ubuntu use gnow and kubuntu use kde12:57
m4x1mumgnome12:57
morghanphoenixI use KDE, fluxbox and afterstep normally.12:57
flaccidPayaso: ah its got no active partitions12:57
Payasoteledyn_k: no diferences, only gnome or kde, i have now kgubuntu because i had installed gnome in my kubuntu12:57
kubuntu_m4x1mum ubuntu is more simple12:58
T3hWiz0rd!mount12:58
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks12:58
T3hWiz0rdperhaps?12:58
T3hWiz0rdhmmm...12:58
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kubuntu_=] 12:58
T3hWiz0rdyou're not very descriptive there is more to linux than gui controls12:58
T3hWiz0rdI know ubuntu/kubuntu focus purely around a gui-controlled os12:58
morghanphoenixOnly one I had problems with was sawfish, kept crashing my computer.12:58
T3hWiz0rdbut it simply doesn't ALWAYS work that way.12:58
T3hWiz0rdspeaking of CLI... is there a command in the CLI that reports the distribution name?12:59
T3hWiz0rdI know uname can report kernel and whatnot, but what about distro?12:59
morghanphoenixthere is, but I don't know it, something about deb version.01:00
m4x1mumi've been using kubuntu for over a week now!!01:00
morghanphoenixI used kubuntu for a month, then debian, now slackware.01:00
T3hWiz0rdm4x1mum: kubuntu is a nice os. Don't be afraid to test new waters as you gain experience though ;-)01:00
T3hWiz0rdmy list of approved OS's is very small lol01:00
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morghanphoenixStill keep kubuntu around for evangelism though01:00
T3hWiz0rdMac OS X, Kubuntu/ubuntu, debian, Suse, Slack01:00
T3hWiz0rdeverything else is on "the list."01:00
PayasoT3hWiz0rd: i dont know but Debian and old his fork like ubuntu has /etc/debian_version that indicate you that it is a debian like01:01
morghanphoenixhaven't used SuSe yet01:01
DjDarkmanhy ,how can I make the compiler to use qt4 insted of qt3?01:01
m4x1mumanyone know any CASE tools ?01:01
T3hWiz0rdmorghanphoenix: despite the fact that 10.1 shipped totally broken, its a nice OS01:01
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Payasom4x1mum: hid Case Ud01:01
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T3hWiz0rdmorghanphoenix: my server is hosted pure suse 10.0 and I would never choose another os for my server uses. I back suse 100% as a server... however, as a client, it did make me REALLY mad01:02
morghanphoenixI still need to try BSD.01:02
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T3hWiz0rdmorghanphoenix: hopefully 10.2 will be more promissing and I can return to my world of suse... or maybe i'll like kubuntu more and stick around... I tend to drift too often01:02
T3hWiz0rdif I was married to an OS i'd of been arrested for adultry by now... I can't stay loyal.01:02
m4x1mumhid case ud?01:02
Payasom4x1mum: i workedon hids case ud a lot of time -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/hidscaseud01:02
morghanphoenixI've been moving to progresivly "harder" distros.01:03
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morghanphoenixI think slackware is going to stick if I can get dvd playback working right.01:03
T3hWiz0rdmorghanphoenix: suse isn't really hard. Yast simplifies life even further than apt-get01:03
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T3hWiz0rdmorghanphoenix: i don't care about harder or easier, i go where the packages are... and frankly, debian is the leading os in packages01:03
morghanphoenixMP3 support on a fresh install, can't beat that.01:03
morghanphoenixyeah01:03
mangor"harder" distros? Gentoo without LAN on an 486?01:03
morghanphoenixI miss apt too01:04
morghanphoenixslapt is nearly worthless01:04
morghanphoenixbut pkgtool is great01:04
T3hWiz0rdHe who cannot get laid shout Gentoo Gentoo! rah rah rah!01:04
T3hWiz0rdI would love to play with gentoo... sadly,  I don't feel like living in my mothers basment while i emerge kde lol01:04
m4x1mumthis case tools is UML compliant right?01:04
morghanphoenixI'd try red hat, but I hate RPMs so much from the Kubuntu period I'm afraid I'd be biased.01:05
T3hWiz0rdmorghanphoenix: Yum isn't as nice as YaST01:05
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T3hWiz0rdand rpm distros certainly don't install and resolve like .deb distros do01:05
T3hWiz0rdnowhere near as good01:05
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DjDarkmanhow can I add something to the sudoers list ,to make it run with root priveleges?01:06
T3hWiz0rdmorghanphoenix: I've always gone with whatever fits me best and never zealoted... my home network is very diverse and multicultral to keep me guessing...01:06
morghanphoenixlol01:07
mangori like suse but if you want to habe mp3 support or anything else (flash etc.) you have to buy the fullversion01:07
mangoropen Suse supports nearly nothing01:07
T3hWiz0rdmorghanphoenix: my primary domain controller, smb share, and web server is all on a suse 10.0 box. My FTP/SFTP box is a fedora core 5 machine, my laptop is OS X, my desktop is kubuntu/dual boot windows, and my other laptop is soon to be mephis.01:07
morghanphoenixI've liked kubuntu, debian and slackware so far, if I had enough computers I'd have one of each and a distro test computer for playing with.01:07
mangorso ive canged tu (k)ubunto01:07
morghanphoenixI kinda miss windows for one reason only01:08
morghanphoenixI loved UO01:08
morghanphoenixI miss Britania01:08
morghanphoenixOnly UO I get now is from snes ROMs01:08
T3hWiz0rdmorghanphoenix: i keep windows around because it supports my uvc webcam and i gotta keep up the naughty shows ;-) pay the rent lmao01:08
flaccid!mame01:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:09
flaccid!find rom01:09
ubotuFound: genromfs, libroman-perl, python-roman, asterisk-prompt-de, asterisk-prompt-fr (and 29 others)01:09
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:09
Tm_TPlease stop fishing.01:09
morghanphoenixnothing's biting01:09
T3hWiz0rdmangor: openSuSE is a really good os, its just very buggy at the moment and its been undergowing a lot of changes.01:09
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T3hWiz0rdmangor: it'll improve... for now, if you use suse i'd recommend sticking by 10.0... fewer bugs.01:10
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flaccidi am just waiting for edgy to be a stable horse01:10
T3hWiz0rdwhy is hurd illegal?01:10
mangorive got 10.1 on my samba server01:10
morghanphoenixhurd?01:11
T3hWiz0rdGNU/Hurd01:11
T3hWiz0rdits illegal.01:11
morghanphoenixno idea what hurd is01:11
mangoryast is a great configuration tool ... and it supports ISDN Card :)01:11
mangori dont have found any howtos  to  configure a ISDN Card wit kubuntu01:12
T3hWiz0rdmangor: kubuntu supports them too... YaST is not what makes suse works, its simply a localization of the tools that do.01:12
morghanphoenixI like the irssi themes01:12
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MartyoT3hWiz0rd: GNU Hurd illegal?01:13
T3hWiz0rdMartyo: isn't it illegal? or having lots of legal problems? or something.01:13
mangorHurd is released next year01:13
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teledyn_khurd is a totally different OS01:15
mangorthere is a release????01:15
hyperabattoir: you know how ubotu works here and whether it's possbile to get one for other ubuntu channels also?01:17
abattoir!ubotu01:18
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage01:18
abattoirhyper: its run by Seveas, you might want to speak w/ him01:18
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hyperabattoir: thx :) I thought you know the answer :)01:18
abattoir:)01:19
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sorush20does gmail mean gay mail, only jocking.. my computer keeps crashing badly and my root partitions which I install all my lovely programs on keeps failing and I have to reinstall kubuntu again.01:21
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Developmsg nickserv  register 2Kgjk01:28
|GaiJin|thank you:P01:28
|GaiJin|we all saw it:P01:28
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|GaiJin|oki... i am using 2 monitors atm without using twinview... buit... when playing WoW (for example...) I have to go in wondow mode to enter the other monitor... and I'd rather avoid that... how can I fix this??01:30
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morghanphoenixgot my sound working01:34
morghanphoenixthis is quite the project01:35
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sorush20did anyone here answer me before I had to leave.. I keep getting crc check error on uncompressing linux01:35
sorush20I'm using jfs01:35
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sorush20hi01:37
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Hellviehow to check for errors an ntfs partition using kubuntu?01:37
Hellvie!ntfs01:37
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:37
Hellvie!fuse01:37
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse01:37
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manjunathahow to join into windows domain01:39
thoreauputicthat's a very bad factoid for fuse...01:39
thoreauputicfuse does way more than just ntfs with ntfs-3g01:39
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thoreauputic!sshfs01:40
ubotusshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 100 kB01:40
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thoreauputicOk well at leastthat's there too01:40
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Hellviehehe01:40
Hellviethanks anyway01:40
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sorush20just reflash the kernel partition again from the bootloader console., how do I do this?01:44
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fabiociao01:47
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adHi ! I got square instead of accent (eacute) on vfat windows fat32. Why ?01:52
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nukuad: probably because the partition is mounted with the wrong encoding01:53
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adnuku: well it is defaults01:55
adin option01:55
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nukuad: kubuntu uses utf8 as default.. you may have to use something like iso8859-1 or iso8859-15 or what other locale you may used under windows..01:57
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nuku(or convert your filenames to utf8)01:59
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adnuku: where can i set kubuntu default charset ?02:00
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nukuad: i would personally not mess with it and leave it to utf8 as that supports nearly every character set you can imagine..02:01
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RogueJediXAnyone know anything about applying patches?02:02
nukuad: you can set the nls page for your fat partition so it will be converted to your local (utf8) charset transparent..02:02
morghanphoenixanyone know anything about ogg video?02:02
morghanphoenixI can't find a channel for it.02:02
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morghanphoenixThoggen DVD rips playing as audio after a reinstall02:03
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adnuku: nls page :\ what is it ?02:05
cpk2RogueJediX: what do you mean applying patches?02:05
nukunuku: national language support02:06
RogueJediXcpk2: I'm trying to compile mplayer, but I need to apply three or so patches before I start running make02:06
RogueJediXcpk2: And I have no idea how to do that02:06
cpk2RogueJediX: you know mplayer is in the repos?02:06
Martyoheh, just did a fresh install of kubuntu 32bit over 64bit, and I still can't logoff/restart/shutdown02:06
RogueJediXcpk2: Yeah, but I'm trying to compile it for x264 support02:06
Martyoanyone else have the same problem?02:07
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cpk2RogueJediX: you have build essentials?02:07
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RogueJediXcpk2: I do.02:07
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nukuad: you could try to edit your /etc/fstab and remove the utf8 and then do a "mount -o remount /media/yourpartition" ... i am not quite sure about the vfat thing as there is no nls option for it as it seems :)02:08
cpk2RogueJediX: wouldnt it work if you made the package with apt-get?02:08
cpk2assuming your compiling on the coomputer using it02:09
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RogueJediXcpk2: Yes, I am trying to compile it on this computer and I didn't know you could compile stuff with apt-get02:09
adnuku: no nls option for vfat so that is no the solution , is it ?02:10
cpk2RogueJediX: apt-get build-dep mplayer02:11
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cpk2RogueJediX: and then after that apt-get -b mplaye02:11
nukunuku: well remove the utf8 from the line of your vfat mountpoint in the fstab and try to remount it and see if it fixed the filename02:11
RogueJediXcpk2: Thanks. I'll try that now02:11
cpk2RogueJediX: then you will have your very own .deb02:11
steveireHey. Does anyone here use a creative jukebox and have it connected to amarok?02:11
nukunuku: on the other hand you might want to convert your filenames to utf8 anyway and stick with utf8 :)02:12
nuku!info convmv02:12
ubotuconvmv: filename encoding conversion tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.08-1 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 88 kB02:12
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RogueJediXcpk2: Er, one problem, though. I see it's trying to get its own version of x264. The forums said it's better if I build that on my own too, which I already did02:13
nukuad: ~02:13
adnuku: i wonder if it is easy to do in windows ... Do you know if there is a option for this ? Maybe you don't know windows :)02:13
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cpk2RogueJediX: you lost me there02:13
SlimGin edgy, shouldn't /bin/sh be linked to /bin/bash instead of /bin/dash ?02:14
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RogueJediXcpk2: After typing sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer, it showed me the new packages it needed for mplayer to build, but I already built one of them manually02:14
nukuad: well windows support utf8.... but i am not 100% sure how it determines if a fat partition is using utf8..02:15
cpk2RogueJediX: well i dont think it would hurt to build it again?02:15
adnuku:  on thanks ...02:16
RogueJediXcpk2: You'd think I'd figure out something as obvious. Thanks.02:16
adIS there a FTP client in default kubuntu .02:16
ad?02:16
cpk2RogueJediX: getting x264-bin wont add support for it to mplayer?02:17
adI can not find it02:17
nukuad: well maybe just try to remove the utf8 option from the vfat in fstab first, remount and see if it works...02:17
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RogueJediXcpk2: It would, but apparently it's better if I build it myself, since the package is not very optimised for specific computers02:18
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nukuad: no there is not ftp client installed by default, but there are various in the repository..02:18
adnuku: can i remove with something like "defaults,iocharset=noutf8" ?02:18
nukuad: no.. there is no "noutf8" .. where are you from?02:18
cpk2RogueJediX: so you could probably "apt-get build-dep x264-bin" and then apt-get -b x264-bin" and then do the same for mplayer02:18
adI used filezilla on wondows ... I think it is in kubuntu but is there another good one ?02:18
morghanphoenixanybody know a linux avi encoder?02:19
cpk2what is avc anyways?02:19
nukuad: i suppose it will be iso8859-15 thats western europe with euro char support02:19
adnuku: I just meant to let defaults and take utf8 away with a special option (utf8 is in defaults i think02:19
morghanphoenixor any format really, as long as it'll let me put my dvds on the hard drive.02:19
nukunuku: yes just remove the utf8 and try it..02:20
RogueJediXcpk2: No dice. It doesn't recognize x264-bin, as well as libx264-dev, x264 and libx26402:20
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nukuwhy am i talking to myself constantly :p02:20
adnuku: how to remove it if i let defaults ?02:20
cpk2i can build dep x264-bin...02:21
cpk2!info x264-bin02:21
ubotux264-bin: a free library for encoding H264/AVC video streams. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.cvs20060210-0.0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 165 kB, installed size 496 kB02:21
nukuad: yes defaults is fine there should be something like defaults,utf8,... and remove the utf802:21
adno filezilla :\ Is there another FTP client ?02:21
adnuku: no there is no utf8 :)02:22
nukuad: hmm02:22
adonly defaults02:22
adThat s why I thought it could be include in the defaults :=02:22
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steveiread: If you use firefox get fireFTP. It's very good.02:23
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nukuad: maybe try to add iocharset=iso8559-15 but i'm not sure02:23
nukusorry 8859-1502:24
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nukuad: you might want to checkout krusader its a twinpanel filemanager and supports ftp02:25
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adnuku: no it does not work :) thanks anyway02:28
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nukuad: have your remounted the partition?02:29
morghanphoenixdo 10.1 packages work on 10.2?02:29
adsteveire: fireFTP is included in firefox ? Extension ?02:29
Tm_Tad: Use Konqueror02:29
nukuad: well i'm out of ideas for no otherwise.. or just use some tools like convmv to convert your filenames to the right encoding :)02:29
Tm_Tnuku: Konqueror can bee split too.02:29
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adTm_T:  konqueror for ?02:30
Tm_Tad: ftp/sftp for example.02:30
RogueJediXcpk2: You did sudo apt-get build-dep x264-bin?02:30
adis there a connections manager int it ?02:30
adTm_T:02:30
cpk2RogueJediX: yup02:30
Tm_Tad: You can bookmark it02:31
nukuTm_T: well yes but krusader has some nice additional features.. plus supports the "good old hotkeys" :)02:31
cpk2but aborted after that02:31
Tm_Tnuku: I see. :)02:31
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RogueJediXcpk2: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. <- That's what it gives me02:31
RogueJediXNo errors, nothing.02:31
cpk2RogueJediX: you have multiverse enabled?02:32
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RogueJediXcpk2: Yup, checked it twice02:32
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yumahi there02:33
yumaanyone using konqi 3.5.4 could open http://ju-ni.net and tell me if it works?02:33
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tsdgeoswhat's the definition of work?02:34
cpk2RogueJediX: try sudo apt-get source -b x264-bin that will get the source and then compile it into a .deb02:34
tsdgeosit displays a menu here02:34
tsdgeosbut probably has some flash i can not see because of missing flash palyer02:35
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cpk2my syntax earlier for compiling source with apt-get was a little off =P02:35
yumatsdgeos: no, it's not flash02:35
tsdgeosok02:36
yumatsdgeos: you should see some posts like wordpress, or that kind02:36
tsdgeosyuma: nothing02:36
tsdgeosonly menu02:36
tsdgeosthat's 3.5.5 btw02:36
yumatsdgeos: oh, well, that happens for me too02:36
cpk2RogueJediX: I have never compiled with apt-get but am trying it out now with kopete to see if it really does work =P02:36
cpk2I already build-dep and am getting the src right now =)02:36
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RogueJediXAh, okay then02:37
yumaI need someone with konqueror <3.5.5 so we can determine if it's a thing of new code in 3.5.5 or something that's usupported02:37
cpk2i have kde 3.5.502:37
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yumatsdgeos: I know that in 3.3.2 it works, but maybe the code of the AJAX only is ignored02:37
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tsdgeosyuma if you are sure it works in 3.3.2 and not it 3.5.5 file a bug02:38
tsdgeosbugs.kde.org02:38
adI d like to install something that is not in a repository : how to proceed ? it is xnview ?02:38
yumatsdgeos: I'm on it02:38
tsdgeosand put [Regression]  on the header02:38
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adshould I download a tar.gz or a rpm ,02:38
cpk2yuma: cool, I love bleach =D02:38
yumatsdgeos: but I wanted to determine if it works on 3.5.4 to write it on the desc.02:38
yumacpk2: I'm getting more and more complicated to read it! Now I have to install firefox to read it, and I refuse :)02:39
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cpk2yuma: the page works, maybe, i can see "home" "forum" buttons etc but nothing below that02:40
yumatsdgeos: I think if they know that in 3.5.4 works but in 3.5.5 doesn't their search for the bug will be shorter than if they know that in 3.3.2 works but in 3.5.5 don't02:40
yumacpk2: it's supposed to see some post of new and a shoutbox done with AJAX02:41
adShould I use alien ,02:41
yumathe AJAX shoutbox is new, from 2 weeks ago or so02:41
ad?02:41
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cpk2ad: you can use the tar02:41
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ubuntuhey kubuntu power users :) ... i'm currently on the LiveCD and i'm stuck02:42
yumamaybe that's what's breaking the page02:42
ricanelitedoes anyone here have any experience using MOL??02:42
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cpk2RogueJediX: btw this is why precompiled packages are nice, still compiling measly ol kopete =)02:42
Hobbseecpk2: er, why?02:42
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declanWhat does peacekpr mean stuck?02:43
cpk2Hobbsee: because I've never tried -b with apt-get?02:43
RogueJediXcpk2: I know. I wouldn't be trying to compile mplayer if the prepackaged one didn't drop frames playing x264 files like crazy02:43
peacekprinstallation fails at partitioning ... "failed to create filesystem" ... i opened qtparted and it shows /dev/hda1 as "busy" - is that the issue?02:43
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adcpk2: ok how to install please if I download the tar.gz ? Is there a tool ? I thought I must convert package to .deb with alien .02:43
Hobbseecpk2: you could have picked something smaller than kopete.  it'll take you about an hour to build, give or take.02:43
Hobbsee!compile02:43
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:43
peacekpri'm not the biggest know-all when it comes to partitioning02:43
Hobbsee!compile > ad02:43
declanNor am I... it always worked fine for me.02:43
declanI hope someone here can help peacekpr with his partitioning query02:44
yuma!compile > yuma02:44
peacekpryeah, i'm in a tight spot, and don't know what to do02:44
yumacool :)02:44
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cpk2Hobbsee: err why would it take an hour?02:44
peacekpri'm loving Kubuntu on the livecd, but it'd be much nicer if i could get it installed to /dev/hda :)02:45
Hobbseecpk2: well, that's how long it takes here.  without ccache02:45
adHobbsee: thanks . Why must we use pre-built package first before all ?02:45
declanYou don't have any idea, peacekpr, why /dev/hda1 is busy, do you?02:45
Hobbseecpk2: huh?02:45
davidAnyone know how to add LDAP users and groups to be used on the client filesystem for access rights?02:45
peacekprunfortunately, no ... i read somewhere that it could be used as swap space, but I'm not sure02:45
Hobbseecpk2: as in, why dont we all use the pre-built packages instead?02:45
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cpk2Hobbsee: hrmm well apt-get -b kopete just finished after about 4 minutes but with errors02:46
peacekpri did a lazy umount: "umount -l /dev" but that didn't help me02:46
Hobbseeyeah, well.  a complete build takes around an hour02:46
Hobbseecpk2: which are you compiling, anyway?02:46
declanIt's up to you to tell it how you want to use /dev/hda1. I doubt that it is swap space. How big is that partition?02:46
cpk2Hobbsee: I wanted to test out making your own .deb with apt-get so i did "apt-get build-dep kopete" and then "apt-get source -b kopete"02:47
peacekprdev/hda1 is about 41GB02:47
Hobbseecpk2: right, so 0.12.2, iirc02:48
cpk2.302:48
Hobbseecpk2: the one that i last modified :P02:48
declanWell, swap partitions are more likely to be around twice the size of your ram.02:48
Hobbseeahh...okay, i never touched that one02:48
declanThat's your main partition.02:48
cpk2i would assume02:48
declanAnd it's busy right now?02:48
cpk2the prepackaged one is .302:48
Hobbseecpk2: what repo are you getting it from?  kubuntu.org, i take it02:48
declanEven though you're using kubuntu from the live disk02:48
Hobbseecpk2: unless you're on edgy02:48
cpk2nah i'm on dapper02:49
peacekprdeclan, yes... apparently02:49
peacekprheh02:49
peacekprqtparted says it is02:49
cpk2i guess i should start with something even more simple than kopete?02:50
Hobbseecpk2: er, okay then.  which kde?02:50
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cpk23.5.502:50
Hobbseecpk2: could be a good idea02:50
Hobbseeah, that's why02:50
Hobbseewell, you can compile it, and it will compile, but once you get past all the build deps, it will take you a while02:50
declanWell, peacekpr, as I understand it, when you run from the live disk, the hard disk shouldn't even be mounted, never mind busy. So I'm confused.... Can anyone else help the man?02:51
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declanOr woman?02:51
lupine_85apparently it automounts swap02:51
lupine_85so sudo swopoff -a02:51
charlie5does anyone use a netcomm NBS+4 modem/router ... who could help me set up ktorrent port forwarding to allow ktirrent ot work properly ?02:52
peacekpryeah, that's what i figure... (man) :)02:52
lupine_85if that isn't it, then sudo mount -l (that's L) then sudo umount <whatever>02:52
declanI think lupine_85 meant sudo swapoff -a the first time (not swopoff). Is that right?02:53
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lupine_85erm, yep :_02:53
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declanTasty?02:53
lupine_85so-so02:53
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lupine_85stir fry & rice02:53
declanMMmmm02:53
peacekprhere goes nothin02:53
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declanGlory and fame will soon be yours!02:54
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peacekprlupine_85: qtparted now shows it as "available" after the "sudo swapoff -a"02:54
peacekprlet's see what the installer does :)02:54
declanYeh!02:54
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cpk2I am kind of bumme though i thought apt-get -b was supposed to be some super easy way of compiling02:57
declanI have a question, while we're waiting for peacekpr's results: How can I find out if "ati" is the correct driver for Radeon 7000IGP? It worked fine when I installed Edgy flight (or whatever it's called now) 3 Ubuntu, but now it doesn't work with kubuntu edgy beta. I've all the bouncy effects working fine with Mandriva One, but I prefer the planet kubuntu.02:58
moneyfirsthi, my laptop with kubuntu 6.06 suddenly stop after a reboot. Then from the onward, the sytem refuse to load the X. is there any clue why? thx02:59
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peacekprheh... installer is lagging on the keyboard setup step (step 3 of 6) *sigh*02:59
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msm_hi all03:00
declanBuon giorno!03:00
yumamoneyfirst: we need more information, but I have a question, could you open a konqueror on a computer with 6.06?03:00
msm_declan: Ciao, Italiano?03:00
moneyfirstyuma, sure I can03:00
declanNo, irlandese03:01
yumamoneyfirst: could you please try http://ju-ni.net/ and tell me if you can read some posts, or if you just can see the header and footer of the page?03:01
lupine_85!it03:01
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:01
moneyfirstduring the boot, the kubuntu load the usual routine.. restricted driver.. etc.. then when it come to loading X, it shows the same boot loading instead of loading the X03:02
msm_There is someone that can say me if there is some way to videocall with skype on Linux?03:02
Martijn81when aptitude thinks a package is not trusted, what does it say?03:02
cpk2probably that it isnt trusted =P03:02
yumamoneyfirst: video card?03:02
moneyfirstyuma, i'm not using Kubuntu right now as you can see I'm not able to boot my Kubuntu03:02
cpk2i think it says it cant be authenticated03:02
yumamoneyfirst: that why I asked if you could open a konqueror, hehe03:03
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moneyfirstyuma, don't think so. Everything works fine and suddenly after a usual reboot, it happened03:03
moneyfirstyuma, oh sorry, I don't get what you mean. hehe03:03
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yumamoneyfirst: did you do an upgrade before the fatal reboot?03:03
Martijn81right, that was what i was thinking, but i have imported the keys... and koffice i one of those general packages that should be normally trusted, right?03:03
yumamoneyfirst: sorry about my english, I'm doing my best03:04
moneyfirstyuma, no. I did fresh install and update the sytem. After few reboots it is just fine03:04
moneyfirstyuma, same here I'm not an english native speaker03:04
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yumamoneyfirst: it's really strange that it stops working because so, so maybe you configured something wrong or something like that03:06
cpk2Martijn81: are you using the kubuntu.org repo?03:06
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nhocahi03:07
yumamoneyfirst: just before the reboot that broke the X03:07
cpk2whenever I try apt-get -b package i get the same errors at the end, any tips on using the apt-get -b function?03:07
nhocacan anyone give a quick help about kate please03:07
Martijn81cpk2: apt-cache policy koffice says so03:07
moneyfirstyuma, I remember that I did configure the display power management from KDE. Arghh that must be the cause03:07
cpk2Martijn81: i think it says that for the kubuntu.org repos =P03:07
moneyfirstyuma, but then how could I get into the Safe mode. Is there any?03:07
yumamoneyfirst: that sounds quite good!03:07
cpk2i think it should be safe using packages from kubuntu.org =)03:08
yumamoneyfirst: you remember what did you change?03:08
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Martijn81cpk2: yeah, but why do i have those keys then? should be trusted, nothing less03:08
yumamoneyfirst: paste the logs of the X in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:08
morghanphoenixany suggestions for a dvd to mpg ripping program?03:08
moneyfirstyuma, I can't get in. Even to the console. It just stops there. All I can do is shutdown the computer using the power button03:09
morghanphoenixor at least something to convert my ogg video files to mpg/avi03:09
yumamoneyfirst: that's so drastic...03:10
yumaanyone remembers how to specify the init level on grub?03:10
cpk2Martijn81: huh?03:10
moneyfirstyuma, that's why I'm asking whether there is safe mode or somethign03:10
msm_nobody use skype on kubuntu???03:10
yumamoneyfirst: you can enter in safe mode changing the init level in grub03:10
yumamoneyfirst: but I don't know how03:10
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yumamsm_: I do03:10
moneyfirstyuma, thx for the hint, I'll try to figure it out.03:11
msm_yuma: There is a way to using video ?03:11
yumamsm_: I don't know03:11
msm_yuma: I'm going crazy to understand if there is a way03:12
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msm_yuma: I can't find any plugin running on Linux and skype support video from ver 2.003:13
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steveireHey, I'm looking to get my creative player supported in amarok. Could amarok in the edgy repos be compiled with the njb plugin?03:14
yumamsm_: I'm using skype 1.3...03:14
yumamsm_: maybe there's no version 2 for Linux yet03:14
msm_yuma: me too. Is the only available for all Linux distro03:14
steveireyuma: 1.3 is the latest for linux03:14
yumamsm_: that seems to be the reason you didn't find any plugin03:14
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yumaanyone, anyone of you is using konqueror 3.5.4?03:15
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msm_yuma: there is a plugin that has support for Red Hat. the only one that i've found03:16
yuma(the first "anyone" is a "by the way", hurray for my english)03:16
yumamsm_: but for which version?03:16
msm_yuma: I'm trying to understand it. Anyway I use kubuntu, so...03:17
yumamsm_: if the plugin is for skype, there's a change you could use it03:17
yumamsm_: maybe you should do a bit of tweaking before03:18
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steveireyuma: What do you mean? A skype plugin for konqueror?03:21
yumasteveire: I don't think so!03:22
PayasoReaming time for Edgy 106kB/s 41m38s03:22
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yumasteveire: I meant that maybe you could use the plugin for _skype_ made for Red Hat, work on Kubuntu, but the plugin will be for _skype_ always03:23
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cpk2!info libfam.la03:25
ubotuPackage libfam.la does not exist in any distro I know03:25
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msm_yuma: I'm verified it. OpenWengo its not a plugin. It's an Open Project that work as Skype03:27
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LjLWengoPhone is a generic SIP client (with special provisions for working with Wengo accounts, but that's all)03:28
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msm_Right.03:29
LjLother SIP clients for KDE are KPhone, Twinkle and KCall (this one however is not packaged for Ubuntu)03:29
lupine_85linphone is better than any of them :(03:29
yumamsm_: no plugin then03:29
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LjLlupine_85: unfortunately the current KDE SIP clients all leave something to be desired, yes03:29
lupine_85ekiga is quite good though03:29
msm_yuma: i think there's nothing to do03:29
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lupine_85of course, Skype doesn't use SIP...03:29
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LjLof course not. which is why i don't recommend using Skype (well, not specifically because it doesn't use SIP, but because it uses its own closed protocol)03:30
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lupine_85mm, SIP or IAX 4eva!03:30
msm_LjL: Today I discover that! :(03:30
cpk2has anyone tried to do apt-get -b since upgrading to 3.5.5?03:31
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steveireWill I ever be able to use wengophone or ekiga or whatever to talk to people who use skype?03:32
LjLsteveire: uhm... perhaps there are SIP to Skype gateways. i doubt it though.03:32
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yumaLjL: the thing of using Skype is the same as using MSN Messenger, all your not linux friends use it03:32
LjLyuma: well, then convince them doing otherwise. there are fine SIP clients for Windows03:33
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LjLat least try03:33
cpk2sudo dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc gives me an error that libfam.la cant be found and if i try to apt-get install -f libfam0 it wants to install what appears to be everything that got updated when i upgraded to 3.5.503:33
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msm_LjL: Which SIP clients do you suggest?03:33
cpk2uninstall stuff from 3.5.5*03:33
msm_LjL: Sorry about my english..03:34
yumaLjL: I've tried, but if a friend has to change, all the friends of my frieds have to change, and so on; and that's a task so close to imposible03:34
LjLmsm_: well, the two most well known ones are SJPhone and X-Lite (which has probably changed name recently). they're not open source. also, there's WengoPhone for Windows03:34
yumaLjL: it was just a comment, nothing so deep :)03:34
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Telroth|Sigh`there's KDX03:35
Telroth|Sigh`mac os 9/X/linux/windows/bsd03:35
LjLyuma: it could also become a virtuous circle. i know perfectly well how hard it is to achieve, but03:35
Telroth|Sigh`does anything skype can and more03:35
LjLdoesn't seem to be a SIP client...?03:36
Telroth|Sigh`what' is a SIp client?03:36
fildo!seen flaccid03:36
ubotuflaccid is on IRC right now!03:36
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Telroth|Sigh`i know what skype is, but i'm unsure of the definition of "SIP"03:36
LjLTelroth|Sigh`: a client for the SIP protocol. a VoIP phone, in other words -- one using a standard, open and widely used protocol03:36
Telroth|Sigh`oh.03:36
Telroth|Sigh`no clue what protocol it uses03:36
LjLTelroth|Sigh`: SIP and H323 are the most used VoIP protocols. H323 is fading out in favor of SIP right now, i think. any other protocol is usually proprietary and closed -- or, at any rate, not a good idea, since SIP is the one you'd want to use for decent interoperability03:37
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LjLhttp://www.voipuser.org  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H32303:38
LjLEkiga for instance can behave as both a SIP and a H323 client03:39
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LjLthe first site i mentioned also lists various (Windows and Linux) SIP client implementations, free and not free03:39
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msm_LjL: I'm surfing about Wengo. It semms that rates for Call Out are better than skype rates03:42
JontyHi. This bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/uim/+bug/64111 is affecting me. Does anyone have any suggestions how to get around it, as I can't use apt while it's still there03:44
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bogodoes anyone know how to configure the Nvidia driver? it's already working but the screen is glued to the left side of my monitor03:45
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thulOk, I have downloaded and burned 2 kubuntu cds now, but kubuntu just will not boot. w2k, freebsd and xp boots and installs ok, but kubuntu hangs after the menu where i choose "start or install kubuntu".03:45
thulcan it be sata-related? must sata-settings be in some special way in bios?03:45
LjLmsm_: a few services give better rates than Skype afaik... other ones (though a bit less transparent, since sites change, rates change, and it's basically a network of different sites doing the same thing) are the Betamax services, such as www.voipbuster.com -- which have their proprietary Windows client, but allow SIP access as well03:50
cpk2whenever i try to do sudo dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc i get an error that it cant find libfam.la but when i try to apt-get libfam-dev it says i have a broken dependency, libfam0, but when i try to apt-get -f it it wants to uninstall all of my kde stuff03:50
chimaera_hi. i installed the fglrx-driver and now i can't switch to a console using ctrl+alt+F1-6. that is, i can switch, but i only get strange graphics when doing so.03:50
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momalThe font under root login or when i use a program with kdesu is all choppy looks really bad... but under normal user its fine :S03:51
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thuldon't log graphically in as root03:55
thultoday's lesson:P03:55
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dhq!kio_http03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kio_http - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
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gogetai got a god one for everyone03:57
gogetagood03:58
gogetafrends kubuntu pc is launcing popups at boot03:58
dhqi get msg when i open  konqror unable to connect to kio_http03:59
msm_LjL: Thank you LjL. Thanks you to all. I understand more about freedom of comunication03:59
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momalthul: it appears on anything that i use root with... eg adept04:00
dhqCould not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.04:00
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momalAny time i click administrator button put in pw it puts font all choppy04:00
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chimaera_anyone experiencing problems after upgrading to edgy/kde3.5.5? the logout-button of kmenu doesn't work anymore..04:02
flavioribeiromy pc dont recognize automatically the things that i plug in usb.. just when i start x, what can i do to make their works without reboot the start?04:02
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|lostbyte|dhq, i belive kio_http has to do with the internel components of KDE..04:02
thulmomal: opk04:03
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dhq|lostbyte|: lolz upgrading to edgy04:03
dhq|lostbyte|: guess i will reboot and lets seee04:03
|lostbyte|dhq, Stuff, are being replace, so let it download and set it up..04:04
|lostbyte|yeah, so that.04:04
|lostbyte|do*04:04
dhq|lostbyte|: all the upgrade is almost over i guess i will have to reboot04:04
|lostbyte|yes..04:05
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gogetaanyone04:07
gogetakonqueror is opning shit at boot ads on my frends pc04:08
gogetai didnt think that was possable on a linux system04:08
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thuldoes kubuntu have known problems with sata-disks?04:12
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yarddog!language04:12
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:12
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cpk2thul: whats your problem?04:15
cpk2I am using a sata drive right now04:15
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thulcpk2: well, it won't boot, at all. It boots from cd, comes to the menu where I choose "start or install kubuntu"04:16
thuland that is about it04:16
thuli get a loading screen with: "loading essential drivers - ok"04:17
thuland then it stops.04:17
cpk2thul: well I had trouble having the installer recognizing my sata drive04:17
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thulhmm, ok, what did you do?04:17
cpk2I installed to an ide drive and then formatted and then partitioned the sata04:17
cpk2using command line04:17
thulhmm04:18
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thulwell, i CAN boot from my external disk04:18
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thulor, my bios supports that04:18
thuldo you think ubuntu will install on the external disk?04:18
cpk2i think its the gui partitioner that doesnt like satas04:18
thulhmm, ok04:18
Dr_willisHmm.. its possible its your sata driver/chipset/controller04:19
cpk2thul: my laptop doesnt have an internal drive and runs kubuntu off an external only04:19
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thulah, ok04:19
Dr_willisIm using sata also.04:19
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thulI'll try to install it on my external drive when i come home then04:19
cpk2thul: but i dont know if installing to the external will fix your problem04:19
cpk2I was able install to the ide because thats where i wanted / to be at04:19
cpk2and /home is solely on the sata04:20
thulhmm, ok04:20
thulmaybe i should just install kubuntu on the external04:20
thuland run it off it?04:20
thulno speed-problems?04:20
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cpk2i dunno about that, plus it loses its flexibility when its ext3 because windows has problems reading ext304:21
thultrue that..04:21
thularrgh04:21
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thuloh world, why art thou so evul.04:21
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cpk2hrmm if I make my own .deb package and install it apt-get wants to "upgrade" it right away04:22
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thulis there any "expert mode" i can do kubuntu in? install manually?04:22
dennistergood morning all04:22
cpk2thul: you can get the alternate cd, that doesnt have any live functionality and is all command line install04:22
mangor_alternative install cd thul04:22
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thulah, ok04:23
kynekwitam04:24
thulI guess I'll have to get someone to burn that for me then04:24
dnt_hallo04:24
thulthanks.04:24
kynekjest jakis polak?04:24
dennisterI'm wondering if I shouldn't start from scratch... clean reinstall of ubuntu-lamp-server, then ubuntu-desktop, then kde...04:24
dennisterbut it's a lot of work04:24
Timo12378Its ok you can do it =p04:24
dnt_any one to help about bridging network cards04:25
dnt_i have just installed kububtu04:25
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momalany ideas how to use super(windows key) with beryl? doesn't seem to work for me.. im running kde04:25
|Mikael|hi together; i am trying to config my wlan. I have a wlan pci card (marvel). When i modprobe ndiswrapper the whole WindowManager freezes (kde)04:25
dennistermy partimage backup didn't restore properly :(04:25
momalbleh my bad wrong chan04:25
|Mikael|any way to make my wlan work?04:26
mangor_witch marvel?04:26
|Mikael|mangor_: just a moment04:26
|Mikael|mangor_:  Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas]  802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)04:27
mangor_wait a moment04:27
|Mikael|:)04:27
livingdaylightI believe i setup my printer, but...04:27
|Mikael|mangor_: btw, i am new to kubuntu04:27
livingdaylightwhen i tried to print from Open Office, it couldn't and when i went to properties it crashed and told me there was signal 1104:28
dnt_Mikael may you help04:28
steveirewhat's the command to get the source of a package from apt?04:28
cpk2steveire: apt-get source packagename04:28
livingdaylightPrinting was never an issue for me in Ubuntu, but seems to be in Kubuntu which is two days old on my pc04:28
mangor_looks like you need ndiswrapper04:28
|Mikael|mangor_: :)04:28
|Mikael|mangor_: it freezes when i use modprobe ndiswrapper04:29
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cpk2steveire: you dont need to be root and it will download the source to the current directory04:29
|Mikael|mangor_: sometimes it says also "segmentation fault" and freezes too04:29
livingdaylightanyone know about printing in Kubuntu?04:29
mangor_whoops tricky04:29
livingdaylightAre there any specific tips i should know about?04:29
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cpk2!print04:29
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:30
livingdaylightIn Ubuntu setting my printer up was as easey and straightforward as 1,2,3. Why would it be different in Kubuntu?04:30
|Mikael|dnt_: what do u mean04:30
livingdaylightcpk2: i have it set to cups. And the test page printed beautifully, but it just doens' tappear to work in any other apps04:30
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cpk2livingdaylight: you probably need to configure koffice to use cups correctly?04:30
mangor_there is a german installatin guide for this card with suse10 i  found nothing for kubuntu (yet)04:31
livingdaylightI tried to print a pdf file from Adobe and now from Open Office aswell and its no-go04:31
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livingdaylightcpk2: you lazy bum... :)04:31
|Mikael|mangor_: url? (for suse)04:31
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mangor_http://de.linwiki.org/index.php/Netgear_WG311v304:32
livingdaylightcpk2: i don't have koffice - using Adobe and Open Office. How would they need to be configured exactly?04:32
|Mikael|mangor_: will look through it; thx anyway04:32
livingdaylightcpk2: i don't recall needing to configure anything in Ubuntu to get apps to print other than the printer itself, which was a matter of just setting it up04:32
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cpk2livingdaylight: file > printer settings make sure it is using the printers name04:34
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cpk2in open office04:34
livingdaylightI've got an EpsonStylus RX425 which appears to be supported and as i say configured straight off in Ubunt. I'm disappointed that it doesn't work in Kubuntu04:34
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LjLlivingdaylight: elaborate on "doesn't work"04:36
cpk2remember when you were a kid and your parents wouldnt get mad at you they would get "dissapointed" think about how you are making kubuntu feel now =(04:36
livingdaylightLjL: ok, i got sgs signal 1104:36
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livingdaylightLjL: i set the printer up using the wizard for want of another word, did a test page which came out beautiful04:37
livingdaylightLjL: but neither Adobe nor Open Office could print.04:37
LjL"druids", they're usually called in linuxland. just call them whatever you like anyway, they don't even deserve a name ;)04:37
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LjLlivingdaylight: what about actual KDE apps? dunno, Kate... KWord, if you have it?04:38
livingdaylightLjL: Open Office i went to File/print right-clicked to go to properties and it crashed!04:38
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livingdaylight<livingdaylight> LjL: but neither Adobe nor Open Office could print.04:38
cpk2livingdaylight: you go to file > printer settings and made sure it was using the correct printer name?04:38
LjLlivingdaylight: neither is a KDE application04:38
PiRIs it possible, a pannel is transparent and not the other in KDE ?04:38
livingdaylightLjL: your point?04:39
LjLlivingdaylight: no point. i just asked if you can get a page printed *in a KDE application* such as Kate, KWord, KPDF, KWhatever. it was a troubleshooting question.04:39
HawkwindIt won't matter if it's a KDE app or not.  If it doesn't print, it doesn't print04:39
LjLHawkwind: well apparently the test page did print though.04:40
livingdaylightLjL: ok, i didn't understand04:40
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HawkwindI've had the very same problem in other distros.  The test page will print, but nothing else.  I never could figure it out04:40
psb154livingdaylight: which version of kde? there are some cups bugs with 3.5.504:40
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livingdaylightpsb154: sorry, i dunno :s04:41
moneyfirsthi, does anybody know which file is the configuration file for display power management?04:41
LjLHawkwind: in my last Kubuntu (well, Kubuntu with also Gnome added) installation, the printer wouldn't work in KDE (no error, no anything, just no print). i tried it in Gnome, and in printed. then again in KDE, and it printed.04:41
livingdaylightLjL: hey, kate is printing... so that narrows things down?04:41
psb154cups related04:41
cpk2actually my room mate seems to be hit and miss with printing depending on which app he tries to print from04:41
livingdaylightIn Ubuntu the same printer worked fine with Open Office and anything else i can recall04:42
LjLlivingdaylight: i suppose so, though i personally still cannot pin it down to something specific. care to try from OpenOffice again? (i know, i know, but read what I told Hawkwind just above, to see why i'm saying this)04:42
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HawkwindLjL: Very odd indeed04:42
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livingdaylightLjL: that is ODD! but i'm happy to try again :)04:43
Payasohi jpatrick04:43
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jpatrickhi Payaso04:43
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LjLHawkwind: ah, wait, that was Edgy admittedly, didn't specify... though it's no less odd even so04:43
josh_omg04:43
josh_i was just about to install f.e.a.r. but the stupidest thing ever happened!04:43
josh_the cd key was fine all the way through04:44
josh_except teh first 4 digits04:44
Payasojpatrick: hi clown there :)04:44
chimaera_but you were till running linux?04:44
cpk2to test out making my own debs with apt-get i did it with adept (something simple and fairly quick) but after I did dpkg -i with it apt-get wants to upgrade the adept I just compiled and installed04:44
chimaera_still04:44
josh_the first 4 digits dont fit in the box04:44
josh_yeah i'm in linux04:44
josh_all the other ones do04:44
josh_but since its RUR704:44
cpk2is this because the source is actually outdated? or apt-get being dumb?04:44
josh_it wont fit04:45
momalHawkwind: you might beable to help me.. for some reason anything run under root (eg logining into kde under root or using adept) the fonts look really bad... but under everything of this user account or another user is fine :S04:45
livingdaylightLjL: OpenOffice is now Printing!!!04:45
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Hawkwindmomal: You should *never* log into X, KDE, or anything of that nature as root user, NEVER04:45
josh_is there any way to let this happen04:45
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cpk2josh_: fear has a linux client?04:45
LjLlivingdaylight: well, i shouldn't be saying "case closed", because it's as odd as it can get, but if it were my computer, knowing how this sort of things go, i would just say "case closed"... at least until it stops printing again ;)04:45
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josh_if i put RLR7 or something it fits04:46
josh_no im using wine04:46
momalHawkwind: It was doing it before I loged in as it lol04:46
josh_does that make any sence?04:46
momalHawkwind: I needed to see if it was all of the root user or just when running kdesu / sudo04:46
livingdaylightLjL: hahaha...a case of, if it doesn't work, try, and try, try again ;)04:46
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cpk2josh_: did you look at the game db at winehq?04:46
josh_RIR7 or RLR7 works but RUR7 wont04:46
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josh_cuz the U is too wide04:46
LjLlivingdaylight: why unfortunately is also the hardest sort of bug to pin down :\04:47
josh_that is the most stupid thing i've ever seen04:47
LjLnot as bad as heisenbugs, but still :)04:47
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LjLlivingdaylight: s/why/which/04:47
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cpk2so no one on why apt-get wants to reinstall over .debs you made using apt-get?04:48
LjLcpk2: what's the version your own binary .deb sports, and what's the one of the repository's binary .deb?04:49
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mangor_ have someone an idea how to configure a ISDN Card wiht kubuntu04:50
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cpk2well i was about to ask if apt-cache search will show versions04:51
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LjLcpk2: apt-cache show will do04:52
nukucpk2: apt-cache policy ...04:52
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chimaera_anyone experiencing problems after upgrading to edgy/kde3.5.5? the logout-button of kmenu doesn't work anymore..04:53
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LjLchimaera_: works for me. anyway you should ask about Edgy in #ubuntu+104:54
Hawkwindchimaera_: I haven't heard anything really, but you might ask in #Ubuntu+1 since that's the Edgy channel04:54
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chimaera_thanks, i'll join the discussion there.04:54
cpk2it says i have 2.0 installed and the candidate is 2.0...04:55
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LjLcpk2: just 2.0? not 2.0-something? anyway, what package is that, and are you on dapper?04:55
cpk2Installed: 2.0ubuntu204:55
cpk2  Candidate: 2.0ubuntu204:55
cpk2its adept and i am on dapper04:55
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LjLcpk2: well, i'm on edgy and the version is different... but i'll try recompiling and seeing. what you did is "apt-get build-dep adept; apt-get -b source adept" i suppose?04:56
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cpk2LjL: yes and then i did dpkg -i on the .deb it gave me04:57
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RopechoborraHi =)04:58
RopechoborraHow do i set Firefox to be my default browser instead of Konqueror?04:58
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Crissihi05:00
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Crissithere are news abound the non working media mount on dapper?05:01
m4x1mumthere is a kubuntu for i586??05:01
Crissiuse 38605:01
Hawkwindm4x1mum: i386 will work on i58605:01
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m4x1mumbut the distro for i586 exist?05:01
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LjLno, there is 386 and 686. oh and, i believe Edgy will not have 38605:02
ubuntu_[BusyBox]  can't access tty: job control turned off05:03
m4x1mumooh, i found a torrent that have kubuntu i586 DVD05:03
momalIf edgy doesn't have 386 then what about amd processors? will it have K8 ? or will the 686 ones work fine05:03
ubuntu_|lostbyte|: i get error [BusyBox]  can't access tty: job control turned off05:03
m4x1mummaybe its a typo05:03
Hawkwindmomal: It'll work fine, just like always05:04
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HawkwindEveryone reads too much into a name tag of i386, i586, i686 and so on.  It wouldn't be popular and be used by millions if it didn't work on all arches05:04
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m4x1mumand how many Mb is kde? i want to update them,05:04
ubuntu_Hawkwind: do you have any idea of the problem i facw05:05
ubuntu_face05:05
Hawkwindm4x1mum: KDE is quite large.  Just update it but be warned if you're on Dapper, KDE 3.5.5 still has quite a few issues05:05
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Hawkwindubuntu_: Nope, sorry05:05
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ubuntu_when i load kubuntu i get the error05:06
m4x1mumooh nevermind then05:06
m4x1mumim still on kubuntu 605:06
momaland if you kopete breaks good luck getting it to work again without formatting and reinstalling everything :p05:06
momallol... I had to >_<05:06
m4x1mummy screen saver still doesn't work :(05:06
m4x1mummy monitor is so gonna have a short life05:07
cpk2LjL: i just finished making a kopete.deb and that i *know* is the .3 version and as soon as i installed it with dpkg apt-get wants to upgrade kopete05:07
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Hawkwindmomal: No you didn't.  You could easily have reverted back to an older version of KDE05:07
momalI only would have had to have gone back to kopete 0.11.3... but I think something else was messing with it.. but now my box is fresh install fully updated and everything back how I ike :)05:08
HawkwindThe revert takes about 10 minutes, tops05:08
HawkwindI did it when I upgraded to 3.5.4 and had issues with konqueror running outside of KDE.  Worked like a charm05:09
momal..... but I think it was something else causing it because buttons starting dispearing when i used xgl lol.. and now they dont :p05:09
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cpk23.5.5 seems to be working fine unless this thing with adept not liking the .debs i build *using adept* has something to do with it05:10
m4x1mumis sourceforge working now?05:10
linuxkid2hey, how do I share a printer with Samba so it's "Annonymous", no username and password?05:11
m4x1mumor maybe its my internet connection :(05:11
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jamesslt ya des francais dan la conversation05:13
Jucato!fr05:14
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:14
jamesya kelkun05:14
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linuxkid2hello?05:17
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milanhi, im trying to install compiz on kubuntu05:19
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milanbut it won't work05:19
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milanwhen i start the session xgl, it returns to the boot screen05:19
milanwith the kubuntu logo, and then it does totally nothing05:19
linuxkid2x crashed05:19
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linuxkid2when you see that, CTRL+ALT+F105:19
milanok...05:20
cpk2LjL: I am going to sleep soon, but if you get an answer for me I would be very happy to hear it =)05:20
milanand then it works?05:20
linuxkid2that gives you the console and youcan fix things05:20
milani can also reboot... or are you talking to cpk2?05:20
linuxkid2milan05:20
milanok05:21
milanwhen im in the console05:21
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milanwhat do i have to do?05:21
linuxkid2milan" try to fix your XGL configs so that it works.05:21
LjLcpk2: adept is still compiling, and i have to go out soon too... not sure it'll finish in time05:21
milani think xgl is working fine...05:21
linuxkid2why?05:22
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milanbecause i can log in to the default session05:22
milanbut not to xgl session05:22
milanso im now in KDE05:22
cpk2LjL: ok, i guess I will just bug more people about it later then =P05:22
milanthe problem is that it seems i have to select the xgl session to use compiz05:23
LjLcpk2: what i would do if i couldn't find the actual problem, anyway (i.e. a hack), would be to open the binary .deb manually, change the version to something higher, and install that05:23
linuxkid2milan: hmm, I guess when you start the system it starts regular X, and not XGL, so it's still XGL.05:23
LjLcpk2: a .deb is an "ar" archive containing two tarballs05:23
milanah..05:23
milancan you tell me how to fix XGL?05:23
milanor check if it is working?05:23
linuxkid2that, I can't, as I don't have a computer that can handle it.05:23
linuxkid2so I've never used it.05:24
milanah05:24
milanmaybe my computer cant handle it too?05:24
linuxkid2Not neccessarily. I only have a PIII and TNT2 video, so that's why I don't try05:24
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milanok05:25
linuxkid2milan: maybe it's drivers. I really don't know.05:25
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milanathlon 3000 with radeon 9800pro... think that should work05:25
linuxkid2did you install the ATI driver?05:25
milanyes05:25
livingdaylightWoaH!!! #kubuntu from Kopete land!05:25
milanbut not the drivers from ati05:25
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linuxkid2well, your beyond myhelp nw, keep asking.05:26
milanxgrlx driver or something like it05:26
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LjLcpk2: http://groups.google.com/group/muc.lists.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/2e917760390fa4c8/005fb7837e629751?lnk=st&q=%22apt-get+-b+source%22+package+upgraded&rnum=1#005fb7837e62975105:26
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milanfglrx05:26
milanthats the driver i installed05:27
linuxkid2I don't know anything about ATI, milan, I've got an nvidia card instead.05:27
milanok05:27
milanthanks for your help05:27
KDEfanboymilan: #ubuntu-xgl05:28
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milanKDEfanboy: can they also give me information about xgl on kubuntu05:28
milanbecause it seems to be different on KDE05:28
KDEfanboyyep05:29
milanok :)05:29
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ubuntuedgy failed when it boots before it reaches the loading of modules it says busty box v1.1.3 ./bin/sh cant access tty job controll turned off05:31
Martijn81can anyone tell me why aptitude keeps jelling me that "kword-data koshell kivio-data koffice kthesaurus kpresenter kformula kugar kword kchart karbon kspread kivio kexi kpresenter-data" can not be trusted?05:31
ubuntuplease some one help me05:31
|lostbyte|busty box.. lol05:32
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|lostbyte|!+one05:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about one - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
|lostbyte|!+105:35
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
linuxkid2I get a "Segmentation Fault" error when trying to connect to a Windows SMB server.05:35
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|lostbyte|linuxbomb, you connect using ?05:36
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linuxkid2Hello, anybody there? I can't connect to windows computers with smb.05:37
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livingdaylightand that is  a good thing?05:37
KDEfanboy!patience05:37
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:37
|lostbyte|lol :)05:38
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linuxkid2sorry, everyone else seemeb wrapped up in other problems or something.05:38
linuxkid2wait, answered that for myself.05:38
|lostbyte|linuxbomb, You connect using ?05:39
|lostbyte|linuxkid2, ^^05:39
linuxkid2so,why can't smb connect to some computers?05:40
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|lostbyte|linuxkid2, You connect using ?05:41
linuxkid2jlostbyte: smb:/ in konqueror, smbclient. neither work.05:41
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|lostbyte|linuxkid2, try using an ip instead of a host, and try calling the dir /folder directly..05:42
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linuxkid2that worked.?05:43
linuxkid2brb05:44
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|lostbyte|!blog05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about blog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
Jucato?05:45
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Jucato!botabuse05:45
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops05:45
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momallolL!05:47
|lostbyte|: - o05:47
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jpatrickhi Jucato05:47
|lostbyte|:D05:47
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n8k99does anyone in here have a mac ppc?05:48
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n8k99a powerbook or ibook, and have you tried to use a projector with it?05:49
Jucatooh jpatrick! hi! :)05:49
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Jucatojpatrick: you've been gone for a very, very long time05:50
larson9999n8k99, i have a ppc but i haven't booted it up in a long time05:50
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jpatrickJucato: problems, problems, and more05:50
dudewhat is the command to create a shortcut in desktop05:50
Jucatojpatrick: aw... :(05:50
Jucatojpatrick: and while you were gone, I slowly crawled over and parked at -devel :p05:51
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jpatrickJucato: ha :)05:51
n8k99larson9999: so i guess you haven't used it with a projector under kubuntu?05:52
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dudewhat is the command to create a shortcut in desktop05:54
larson9999 n8k99 nope.05:54
Jucatodude: right-click on the desktop05:55
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n8k99larson9999:ok thanks, - have a presentation next month and am trying to solve this before it is a problem05:55
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StarenHi, I'm a windows user but I'd like to learn to use linux. SO I'm thinking of making a dual-boot machine.05:59
francoisif I have a p4, should i be running the 386 or the 686 kernel ?05:59
StarenLinux can't write to NTFS partitions though, right?05:59
momalStaren: It can but its not 100% perfect yet and isn't recommended06:00
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PayasoStaren: linux can write to ntfs partitions, the best way now is use ntfs-3g driver from the linux-ntfs projects06:00
LastMallfrancois  I'd think the 68606:00
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ubuntu_hola buenas tardes06:02
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KDEfanboy!es06:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:02
aknHi, my PC is running very slow sine I istalled Kubuntu. How can I fix it?06:02
StarenSo what's the reccomendation? See, I've got a new 100GB drive, and I'm going to copy my current 20GP NTFS partition over to it... Should I make it Fat32? Or, how much room should I leave for Kubuntu?06:03
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francoishow do I keep the 686 kernel but install the nvidia legacy drivers ? its asking for the 386 image06:05
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momalstaren: ext3 is good filesystem to use... as for size depends how much you want use give at least 5-10gb for kubuntu+installing apps then how ever much extra you think you might use :)06:06
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josh_why cant i get guild wars running06:06
josh_it crashes x server06:06
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StarenWell... if writing to NTFS isn't perfect, how dangerous would it be to get a linux version of, say. Quake 3 and let it download new maps when I connect to a server using a map I don't have?06:08
HawkwindStaren: Unfortunately, your first adventure in partitioning a drive won't be the best.  You'll find ways later to better suit your needs.  It's one of those things that noone else can really tell you how to do it best for you.  You do it, see how it works, then change it later as you think of a better way it can be done to suit  your needs.06:08
francoispartitionmagic06:08
HawkwindStaren: IIRC you can run quake 3 natively in linux06:08
StarenI've partitioned drives before, just not for two operating systems.06:08
momalyea copy quake 3 over onto a linux partition and run it :)06:09
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HawkwindStaren: Best to just do it how you think will be best.  You'll end up changing it later, guaranteed06:09
StarenYes, but I've got a years-old Windows installation with all the mapfiles it's downloaded. So I'd have to have 2 copies of all my games?06:09
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OODntfs writing is pretty safe with ntfs-3g06:09
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rich_hi06:10
yetiare there any problems with updating to kde3.5.5? what cool new features does it have ;) ?06:10
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rich_no i have a problem downloading stuff06:11
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MenZayeti: http://kde.org06:11
MenZaShould be a changelog somewhere.06:11
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OODnot much change, just the usual bugfixes and khtml improvements06:12
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thunderstormhi@all06:12
MenZaWhy, hullo thar!06:12
yetiOOD, good enough for me :) thanks06:12
thunderstormi'm a guy from germany - i need your help06:12
rich_i have a problem downloading things06:12
rich_i have a problem downloading things06:13
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rich_hi06:13
francoishow do I keep the 686 kernel but install the nvidia legacy drivers ? its asking for the 386 image????06:13
thamiHi06:13
thunderstormi have a notebook from sony, typ vaio pcg-fr415b with a ati radeon igp 345 m graphic-chip06:13
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rich_i have a problem downloading things06:13
Timo90What kind of things06:14
pandamoniumgreetings all, I keep getting applications closing on me and wondered if anyone can help me make sense of the xsession-errors logs?06:14
thunderstormthe 3d-mode, e.g. "glxgears" is very slow - i cannot find a solution for it06:14
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Timo90Are you using 64 bit06:14
rich_music any thing06:14
rich_what is a 64 bit06:14
Timo90dont worry about it06:15
Timo90Could you tell me more about this,are you yusing firefox to download06:15
rich_i hate my computer06:15
thunderstormcan somewhere help me, too?06:15
pandamoniumrich_, i'll have it :p06:15
lupine_85!ati06:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:16
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lupine_85thunderstorm: do that06:16
rich_yes i am using fire fox06:16
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DaSkreech!seen sexie06:16
ubotuI last saw sexie (i=laalchee@221.134.48.10) 18h 7m 18s ago, quiting: "gotta sleep."06:16
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thunderstormlupine_85: i'm looking for it06:17
Timo90What does firefox say,when you try to save a file06:17
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rich_it doesent06:17
hazard2Darnit, I need a faster drive.06:17
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rich_when its done it says it cant open06:18
hazard2This old 4gb Ultra 33 is...so..slow it seems06:18
Timo90Do you know were the file is saved to,rich06:18
stefg_vm!codecs06:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:19
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rich_yes me desktop06:19
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Timo90Try opening the file from there tell me what happends and what kind off file it is.06:19
DaSkreechHow does it do that?06:20
josh_omg of course06:20
josh_its ide 3306:20
DaSkreechI have no DNS yet I can get on IRC06:20
josh_thats like the first ever06:20
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rich_chat with me in privat06:20
aknI just installed Kubuntu and sometime my PC becomes very slow, does any one know what can I do?06:20
CVirusDaSkreech: maybe your client is caching your DNS's06:21
DaSkreechakn: Run less processes?06:21
DaSkreechCVirus: And not google.com ?06:21
CVirushuh ?06:21
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DaSkreechI'm >,.,< that far away from a google adminstrator's useage of Google and that isn't cached?06:22
rich_Unhandled MIME type: 'application/x-ms-dos-executable'06:22
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hazard2is it possible to bind commands to the windows key in konqueror?06:22
DaSkreechhazard2: Yes06:23
rich_that is what it says06:23
rich_Unhandled MIME type: 'application/x-ms-dos-executable'06:23
DaSkreechIt's called the super key06:23
lupine_85rich_: associate it with wine06:23
hazard2It should be called the "special" key.06:23
aknDaskreech: sometime gets very slow with just Kontact and Konqueror06:23
steveireIf I do kate & I can still use the command line in konsole. What if I only did kate and now want to use that shell again without closing kate?06:23
rich_Timo 9006:23
DaSkreechKontact is huge. Ummm I guess KOnqueror might be loading up some huge file or somethig06:23
steveireI remember reading it in linuxcommand, but that site is down.06:23
rich_Timo 9006:23
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DaSkreechakn: While browsing the local filesystem?06:23
rich_Timo 9006:23
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rich_Unhandled MIME type: 'application/x-ms-dos-executable'06:24
rich_Unhandled MIME type: 'application/x-ms-dos-executable'06:24
rich_Unhandled MIME type: 'application/x-ms-dos-executable'06:24
rich_Unhandled MIME type: 'application/x-ms-dos-executable'06:24
LoRezWarning: `rich_' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.06:24
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Timo90yess yess, what is the file,06:24
rich_google talk06:25
aknDaskreech: doing anythig, but not all the time. Just sometimes.06:25
DaSkreechakn: Might want to run top or system guard06:25
Timo90did you donload the linux one,not a windows application =p06:26
DaSkreechTimo90: The Linux GTalk?06:26
hazard2a pentium III is a 686 yes?06:27
rich_o that is the problem06:27
DaSkreechNo A a58606:27
hazard2really?06:27
hazard2Hrm....06:27
Payasohi from kubuntu edgy :)06:27
akndaskreech: yes, I do. do you need any information about my Systemguard?06:27
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Timo90That type of windows software dosnt work on linux ;)06:28
DaSkreechakn: What's taking up the most Memory?06:28
DaSkreechPayaso: Welcome :)06:28
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Martijn81DaSkreech: if you run a modem+router, and your /etc/resolv.conf file point to your router, i think you might have been using the router internal dns cache06:28
hazard2the package list indicates that the PIII uses the 686 kernel06:28
DaSkreechMartijn81: Well it just rebooted does that help ? :)06:28
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rich_thanks06:29
rich_bie06:29
Timo90bye06:29
Martijn81dunno really how they run inside06:29
Timo90Good luck06:29
aknDaSkreech: Vm = Kopete06:29
DaSkreechHmm OK now I can ping by name but not browse06:29
DaSkreechakn: Seriously? how much % is it using?06:30
Martijn81DaSkreech: personally i use my ISP's nameservers directly, because my router makes a mess of it06:30
DaSkreechMartijn81: Me too It was erased from my resolv.conf though not sure why06:31
aknDaSkreech: wich row do I have to see? "User", "System", "Vm"?06:31
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DaSkreechSystem or user I think06:31
DaSkreech I normally just look at one that jumps out at me06:31
DaSkreechIf something is using excessive Vm that would definirtly affect your system btw06:32
_Shade_i get this error when i am trying to launch an opengl application06:32
_Shade_Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".06:32
_Shade_Unhandled exception: Couldn't get double-buffered visual06:32
_Shade_what can i do about that?06:33
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aknDaSkreech: "User" = ksysguard 13%, Xorg 4%06:33
DaSkreechok06:33
aknDaSkreech: "system" i running with low levels06:34
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aknDaSkreech:  Kopete Vm = 12130006:35
_Shade_could anyone solve my problem?06:35
DaSkreechI think you need a package :-( Not sure thuogh just started playing with OPenGL myself06:36
DaSkreech_Shade_: Ask in #ubuntu-xgl as well :-)06:36
DaSkreechthey are all up on the lingo ;-)06:36
DaSkreechakn: I think that's a reasonable amount06:36
aknDaSkreech: so, I should don`t have problems?06:37
DaSkreechakn: how  bad is the slow down?06:37
aknfor ex. when I change from Kmail to Kontact I have to wait 6 to 8 seconds06:38
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aknDaSkreech: for ex. when I change from Kmail to Kontact I have to wait 6 to 8 seconds06:38
DaSkreechakn: Again Kontact is a large app. If it's mostly in VM then it is going to take a littel while to swap it out to memory06:39
DaSkreechakn: Same issue with OpenOffice06:39
lupine_85buy more RAM ;)06:39
DaSkreechI'm not so sure about why konqueror is doing that as well06:39
DaSkreechWell Xorg is using 4% of his RAM whereas it's using like 35% of mine :)06:40
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DaSkreechOk How do I clear a single file from kaffiene's playlist?06:41
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aknDaSkreech: Ok but is too slow. With Mandrake was faster06:41
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DaSkreechakn: Hmm I guess you can kill services you don't need06:42
DaSkreech It comes with things like Bluetooth on by default06:42
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owortyhola06:43
owortyhello06:43
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DaSkreechHello06:44
owortysomebody to talk?06:44
owortyhello06:44
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DaSkreechoworty: This is a support channel if you just want to chat try #kubuntu-offtopic06:44
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owortyok thanks06:44
DaSkreechOmg Kaffiene is a terrible media player06:44
aknDaSkreech: for ex. Is very slow to change from one email to other email un Kmail. Takes 4 second to show de next email.06:45
DaSkreechDo you get a lot of attachements?06:46
lupine_85Kaffeine is OK...06:46
lupine_85superior playlist management to Mplayer06:46
DaSkreechlupine_85: how do I remove a single item from a playlist?06:46
OODit plays a lot of media once you get the win32 codevs06:46
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lupine_85click it and press the del key?06:46
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DaSkreechIt asks me to delete the actual file06:46
lupine_85doesn't here06:47
lupine_85are  you sure you're in kaffeine, and not konqueror?06:47
DaSkreechHa ha :-)06:47
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DaSkreechWell it just dumped the entier playlist :-(06:47
DaSkreechMan Why don't media players have like a two day history?06:47
aknDaSkreech: attachments? not in every email. but when there`s an atachment it takes like 10 second to load the email.06:47
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DaSkreechHmm that sounds pretty bad06:48
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=== DaSkreech neeeeeeeeds sensible hotkeys in kaffiene as well :(
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hazard2if I just upgraded my kernel is there any way to easily remove all the old kernel packages?06:51
DaSkreechfdisk?06:52
lupine_85...06:52
lupine_85 /spank DaSkreech06:53
lupine_85hazard2: easiest to do in adept. Search for linux-image and mark for removal everything that isn't the latest06:53
lupine_85same for linux-headers and linux-source06:53
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hazard2yea, that's what I've been trying, but for some silly reason it keeps wanting to reinstall them all06:53
DaSkreechOk why can't I start new Gui processes?06:54
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lupine_85peculiar06:54
DaSkreechOh ok just moving a bit slow I guess06:54
DaSkreechThough Firefox is still not opening06:55
DaSkreech0_-06:55
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bobHey there06:56
DaSkreechUmm ok how do I debug not being able to browse?06:56
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DaSkreechI can't get links2 to browse06:57
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deathfenixhello all06:59
deathfenixpls help in wireless06:59
Random_Transithey, quick question...is there any way for me to reinstall windows on one drive and not have it screw with GRUB?06:59
deathfenixnot up my wireless =06:59
DaSkreech!wireless06:59
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:59
deathfenixtkx07:00
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ubuntu do you find any thing wrong in this UUID=ab6677d3-66fd-4ee0-aa63-ebf89bed185f / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 107:00
DaSkreechRandom_Transit: Usually not worth the pain unless you reinstall Windows a few times a month07:00
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DaSkreechAh this sucks!!07:01
kkrizkaI keep getting "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" when trying to remove some packages07:01
DaSkreechubuntu: Where do you want us to start?07:01
wimpiesI have a core 2 duo processor is that a 64 bit processor ? if so do I need the 64 edge image ?07:02
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deathfenix[17183733.388000]  ndiswrapper (iw_set_freq:375): setting configuration failed (C0010015)07:02
ubuntuDaSkreech: well i installed to edgy07:02
deathfenix[17183733.388000]  ndiswrapper (iw_set_ap_address:668): setting AP mac address failed (C0010015)07:02
DaSkreechwimpies: Yes and no07:02
ubuntuDaSkreech: no i reach busty box07:02
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deathfenixerror connect07:02
deathfenixnot set essid =/07:02
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ubuntuDaSkreech: so there is sothing wrong wit fstab and menu.lst07:03
deathfenixsudo iwconfig wlan0 essid wire  not change07:03
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wimpiesDaSkreech : Ok not needing but is it worth using the 64 image ?07:04
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deathfenixx-/07:04
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kalmiv got a lot of noises in kubuntu (especially when the computer "think" that I don't had on suse, what could be the reason?07:05
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kkrizkaI also get the following error when installing cpanel-data: "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"07:06
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DaSkreechwimpies: Depends. There is more software for the 32 kernel but there is more efficent use of resources in a 64 kernel07:07
DaSkreechYep I'd Mostly recode kaffiene07:08
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Mandoaloha07:08
DaSkreechAloha!07:09
Brydenn33blah, i need some quick help guys07:09
Mandoi need some help07:09
Brydenn33i'm trying to install Gaim-vv07:09
Mandoi've installed kubuntu successfully07:09
Mandobut when i try to load it07:10
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Brydenn33and it keeps telling me i need07:10
Brydenn33libgnutls11 (>= 1.0.16); however:07:10
Brydenn33  Package libgnutls11 is not installed.07:10
Mandoi get a whole bunch of Buffer I/O errors07:10
Mandoand then kubuntu loads07:10
DaSkreechBrydenn33: Install it maybe?07:10
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_Rover_Mando: check your memory :)07:10
DaSkreechMando: Back up your hard drive07:10
Brydenn33DaSkreech: DUH! but i have version 13 not 1107:10
Brydenn33and its not in the package system07:10
Mandobuffer i/o error on ha2 bla bla07:10
Brydenn33well not on Edgy anyway07:10
DaSkreechI assume you are installing gaim-VV from code?07:10
Brydenn33there is version 12 and 13 no 1107:10
Mandodaskreech: why is that?07:10
Brydenn33no i'm installing it from a .deb i downloaded07:11
lupine_85they are bad error messages :(07:11
DaSkreechMando: My Hard drive started faiing aafter like a month of that07:11
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DaSkreechMando: Much better safe :)07:11
arunkalehey people07:11
DaSkreechHi arunkale07:11
Mandoi made a disk check on my hard drive from windows right before installing kubuntu07:11
_Rover_busy chan :)07:11
Mandoand had absolutely no errors07:11
arunkaleHey, DaSkreech.. how are things?07:11
DaSkreechBrydenn33: and it doesn't have a deb for the dependecies?07:11
DaSkreecharunkale: Butt Sucky07:12
_Rover_Mando: it might have phisical errors, windows doesnt see everything07:12
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Brydenn33well i found a .deb for the libgnutls11 (>= 1.0.16)07:12
Brydenn33but keeps giving me an error too07:12
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Mandowell i've clicked the check box where it says check for bad sector07:12
DaSkreechanything that involves retirieving from the internet seems dead07:12
Mandoand yet nothing07:12
arunkaleDaSkreech: what happened?07:12
DaSkreech I think the Country got cut off from the internet again07:13
Brydenn33DaSkreech:07:13
Brydenn33dpkg: error processing libgnutls11_1.0.16-14_kfreebsd-i386 (--install):07:13
Brydenn33 cannot access archive: No such file or directory07:13
Brydenn33Errors were encountered while processing:07:13
Mandois there any other possible cause for this error?07:13
DaSkreechBrydenn33: It's a aBSD Deb?07:13
DaSkreechHow does that work?07:13
Brydenn33not sure DaSkreech hehe, it was on debian.org though07:13
Brydenn33crap07:13
Brydenn33i think it is for BSD07:14
DaSkreechMando: quite a few i would suspect anything that is a block device can throw that error but as I said backup never killed anyone07:14
Brydenn33blah07:14
DaSkreechAgain how does that work?07:14
DaSkreech Brydenn33: I really advise hunting a deb for the lastest gaim 2 beta07:14
Mandook sure backup is out of question here.. but how can i get past this error.. i cant wait 5 min everytime i start kubuntu07:14
DaSkreech it is trying to incorporate the gaim -v stuff07:14
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Brydenn33DaSkreech: well if gaim beta has webcam support i'm all over it07:15
Brydenn33but i dont think it does07:15
DaSkreechBrydenn33: Don't like Kopete?07:15
DaSkreech it has webcam support07:15
DaSkreecharunkale: I can ping places but I can't browse.. at all07:15
arunkaleDaSkreech: Ouch07:15
DaSkreechI have no idea how to debug that07:16
Mandoanyone? how can i fix this error? or other possible causes07:16
Brydenn33no i dont really like Kopete07:16
DaSkreechBrydenn33: More power to you :)07:16
Mandobare in mind my pc is an acer aspire 1692 wlmi laptop07:16
Brydenn33haha i'm gonna go see if it really has webcam support or not, cuz i dont think gaim does07:16
DaSkreechWell forget this07:16
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_Rover_Mando: magnetic errors on your hard driver might cause failure, find a prog called hdd regenerator, it is not free though...07:17
DaSkreechSee if the country gets back on to the internet later07:17
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Mandook will do07:17
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ricaneliteAnyone here know about MOL?07:18
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carstenAnyone on Edgy Eft here? I upgraded from Dapper and now my xserver does no longer start. No clue what to do now, google doesn't help :(07:20
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mabreauxyes07:20
mabreauxI had the same problem, had to install from disc.07:21
carstenmabreaux: that is not really an option :(07:21
_Rover_carsten: eh07:21
_Rover_let me think07:21
ricaneliteAnyone here knows about MOL??07:22
carstenmabreaux: Well, I could backup everything, of course and I even have a  backup. But a full reinstall mean that I have to reconfigure everything.07:22
_Rover_ctrl alt f107:22
mabreauxI checked the bug list and they claim it is fix for release but the iso has not been updated07:22
_Rover_log in07:22
pacarsten: what's the error message you get while trying to start X?07:22
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_Rover_apt-get update07:22
_Rover_eh07:22
carstenpa no error, that is the weird thing :(07:22
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pacheck out the X.org.log07:22
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paXorg.0.log that is07:23
_Rover_i had it too you have to upgrade just as long till everything is there07:23
_Rover_but i am seeking thee right commandos moment07:23
carstenpa: complaining about missing wacom for exampple, but that cannot be the reason, of course07:23
carstenno real err-msg07:23
_Rover_meebie reinstall xserver.xorg07:23
payes it could07:23
paif x misses a device in xorg.conf07:23
pax wont start07:24
paso you should check out your xorg.conf07:24
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Sannecarsten: to see if the problem is with your video driver you could try the vesa driver temporarily.07:24
carstenI am on vesa07:24
carstenand never used anything else :)07:24
pathe problem lies in the config file i'm pretty sure07:24
pado you have a backup of your old config file before the update?07:25
payou could try it07:25
Sannepa: The missing wacom shouldn't be a problem, it seems it's in xorg.conf by default. I get those errors also and have no wacom device.07:25
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_Rover_apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade might do the job07:25
Sannecarsten: oh, ok, then it's not the video driver.07:25
SkyMountaineerhas any one seen this error when booting the live CD.. XXXXXXX.XXXXX PCI: BIOS BUG: MCFG area at f00000 is not e820-reserved ?07:25
carstenit seems that the dist-upgrade is  not yet working. I will try to reinstall the kubuntu-desktop07:25
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paSanne:  oh sorry, i dunno, i come from gentoo, only installed ubuntu yesterday, so i'm not used the way ubuntu works07:25
_Rover_carsten: that is also an option07:26
_Rover_but try xserver.xorg07:26
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Sannepa: don't be sorry, I also wondered about those errors. In fact they annoyed me enough so I commented out the wacom lines ;)07:26
_Rover_pa: it is mostly debian07:26
paSanne :)07:26
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naegling23please help, I cant read the screen, is there a hotkey to change my screen resolution, Im running xgl so I cant use the display settings07:27
Hawkwind!xgl07:28
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:28
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eric_Does anyone know what files store XFCE desktop configuration data? part of my XFCE desktop is hosed.07:28
Hawkwindnaegling23: Does ctrl +/- not work ?07:28
_Rover_i have an inconveniance... i would like to have thunderbird and mozilla systemwide as my default e-mail and browser prog and although i checked everything it still doesnt work, it still starts konquorer and kmail07:28
_Rover_anyone?07:29
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naegling23I didnt know about ctrl +/- but it doesnt seem to be working, for some reason, I think xgl is using some insanely high resolution07:30
Hawkwindnaegling23: Try asking in #Ubuntu-XGL then07:30
pa_Rover_ you checked in kcontrol default application?07:30
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_Rover_yep07:31
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_Rover_nicely fixed it there but kde doesnt listen to me :)07:32
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pai dunno, i dont use pop mail, and i start firefox by using the firefox button i put in the taskbar :)07:33
_Rover_mozilla works, thunderbird works but even from thunderbird links will open in konquorer07:33
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pahmmm07:33
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pacheck out firefox and thunderbird config?07:33
_Rover_yep and i couldnt find anything on google07:33
_Rover_pa: nothing there to check :)07:34
_Rover_spooky :)07:34
_Rover_meebie small bug?07:34
carstenok folks, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop fixed my isseus07:34
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_Rover_carsten: now upgrade just as long till everything is there07:35
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hammadhow do i switch to gnome07:35
hammadif i installed kde07:35
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mabreauxinstall ubuntu-desktop07:35
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_Rover_mabreaux: i dont like gnome :)07:35
foosdfsdf_Rover_: upgrade what?07:36
mabreauxneither do I that is why I run kde07:36
thamiKDE looks nice07:36
_Rover_foosdfsdf: carsten was upgrading07:36
hammadi cant play games or anything07:36
hammadheard gnome is faster07:36
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_Rover_foosdfsdf: and it went wrong07:37
steveireHey, I'm trying to install this >>> http://kionjb.cvs.sourceforge.net/kionjb/kionjb/. There's no ./configure script. Should I run autogen?07:37
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arunkaleare there any good kde browsers other than konqueror?07:37
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foosdfsdf_Rover_: I am carsten, just on the other machine :) No loggin off here07:37
_Rover_ag shit :)07:37
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_Rover_carsten: upgrade kubuntu till everything is there... not all packages might be there yet07:38
carsten_Rover_: what do you mean, it seems everything works07:39
carstenjust the fonts in edgy look strange07:39
_Rover_carsten: apt-get dist-upgrade07:39
_Rover_now it prolly does something07:39
pai dunno if you guys knows about this program, but if you often spend time in the konsole, you should try yakuake.  It's a quake style konsole for kde, you install it, run it, and there is a konsole always ready for you by pressing F1207:40
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Dr_willisI hate Yakuake :P07:40
_Rover_pa: i always am in Konsole :)07:40
Dr_willisI always got a konsole open anyway07:40
Dr_willisand about 8 tabs in it07:40
_Rover_pa: and sometimes in screen :)07:40
pai cant live without my yakuake07:40
_Rover_screen rulez07:40
Dr_willisscreen and mc - dont play nicely last i tried.07:41
carstendoes anyone know about a mule-client which sucks less than amule?07:41
pamc is nice :)07:41
_Rover_screen works07:41
paamule is pretty much the best you can get07:41
payou have problems with amule?07:41
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_Rover_well, i guess no one knows about my mozilla and thunderbird prob?07:42
carstenpa: of course I do :-) It looks ugly for example, it has display bugs, it feels slow as hell, I cannot configure with which app I want to see a avi-file...07:42
_Rover_that mule prog is a peer to peer prog?07:43
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carstenI think so07:43
_Rover_what is wrong with gtk gnutella07:43
_Rover_?07:43
pacarsten: well, last time i checked you can configure amule to play with the media player you want, as for it's ugliness, depends if you have it gtk1 or 2, 2 is a bit better07:43
carstenpa: I have whatever comes with kubuntu07:44
_Rover_and for your torrents, azareus runs on linux too07:44
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paand slowiness, i dunno, i dont feel it so slow, and imo, it's a better client and emule on windows.. i get better results at least with it07:44
payes07:44
pabut i found ktorrent pretty decent07:44
pai was used to azureus before07:44
carstenpa: only that torrent != p2p :)07:45
carstenpa07:45
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_Rover_pa: azareus can run on linux, i have it07:45
_Rover_it is java based07:45
payes i know07:45
carstenpa: for example, I downloaded this loose-change-thing. You need p2p for that, afaik07:45
pai was using it on my gentoo before07:45
AlbertoHi ! Got a problem with my network interface eth0 : I can ping the gateaway (router) and access it but can not go on the internet .07:45
_Rover_pa: aha07:45
pabut i tried the one that was bundled with kubuntu, and found it nice07:45
arunkaleare there any good kde browsers other than konqueror?07:46
_Rover_arunkale: i use mozilla07:46
pame too :)07:46
_Rover_konquorer sucks imho07:46
pafirefox that is07:46
_Rover_:)07:46
arunkaleis that kde-based?07:46
arunkaleor gnome-based07:46
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arunkalefirefox is gnome-based07:46
_Rover_arunkale: gnome but it runs on kde07:46
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pakonqueror doesnt sucks so much.. it's pretty quick.. but some pages have problems with it07:46
arunkaleyeah, i know it does07:46
pabut for most uses, it can be faster than firefox07:46
carstensince when is firefox gnome-based!?07:47
_Rover_pa: exactly07:47
arunkalei'm just asking if there are kde specific browsers07:47
andrew_can somone help me? im a newbie07:47
AlbertoSomeone to help me understand why I can not go on the internet but only on the LAN ?07:47
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arunkaleother than konqueror07:47
yetikonqueror is quick if you disable the IPV6 lookup, but it's still not nearly as fast as firefox with pipelining07:47
arunkalewhats up andrew_07:47
Albertoandrew : may help you ...07:47
AlbertoI have prob too :)07:47
_Rover_yeti: i need a browser that displays as much as possible and konquorer fails somethime :)07:48
Albertoarunkale: maybe yoiu can help me ...07:48
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_Rover_Alberto: we al have our probs ;)07:48
andrew_i downloaded some games to try out, planeshift - i figured out how to install and run, legends - says that i need libgtk-1.2 which i just installed07:48
arunkalewhat's up?07:48
andrew_so im not too sure why that isnt finding libgtk07:48
Alberto_Rover_: sure07:49
_Rover_:)07:49
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Albertoarunkale: my eth0 is ok for LAN .. I can ping my gateaway but I can not go on the internet ...07:49
paandrew i had planeshift running on my gentoo before, and i can tell you that i remember spending days to get this game to work07:49
gsnedderswhen booting the Desktop CD (on a Duron 700) I get "invalid compression format (err=1)" no matter which option I choose07:49
_Rover_Alberto: payd your internet bill? nah that one is not nice :)07:50
AlbertoI got kubuntu on my laptop and ubuntu on my desktop machine07:50
pai did so many things to have it works, that i really cant remember, but look in the forums and google07:50
andrew_:D well i think i have it going, the legends game is the problem, not finding libgtk07:50
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AlbertoIt works for ubuntu but not for kubuntu :\07:50
Alberto_Rover_: yes ... not nice :)07:50
AlbertoMy DNS seem are correct ...07:51
paandrew but you might want to try eternal lands instead07:51
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andrew_whats that?07:51
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_Rover_Alberto: does your provider support dhcp?07:51
Flosofthey07:51
FlosoftI want to install Kubuntu on my laptop07:51
andrew_ohhh i think i may have just found the problem07:51
_Rover_Flosoft: than do so :)07:51
Flosofthow do I resize my NTFS partition?07:51
paandrew as planeshift is very early and you'll be strong enough to beat the toughest mob in about 1 month of play07:51
_Rover_Flosoft: partiton magic07:51
andrew_oh thats no fun07:51
paandrew eternal lands is another mmo avail on linux07:52
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andrew_ahh ok ty07:52
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yetiFlosoft, if you don't want to lose data, use partition magic or windows for that07:52
Flosoftcan't the Kubuntu Live CD do that?07:52
paandrew www.eternal-lands.com07:52
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Alberto_Rover_: my provider ?! I m on a lan : ubuntu is ok but kubuntu is not07:52
Flosoftah ... how can I do it in Windows?07:52
AlbertoStatix IP07:52
paor .net07:52
pacant remember07:52
_Rover_Flosoft: i dont know... better you down pm somehwere...07:52
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andrew_i figured out the problem installing Legends! i had installed lib<somethingwrong> instead of libgtk01.207:52
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_Rover_Flosoft: but if you tasted kubuntu your windows will dissapear forever!!! :P07:53
_Rover_:)07:53
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Flosoftwell I use Kubuntu07:53
Flosofton my Server @ Home07:53
_Rover_Flosoft: dutch?07:53
Flosoftbut I need Windows as I need Macromedia07:53
FlosoftGerman / Danish from Belgium .. but dutch is no problem07:54
andrew_i have another question though, i want to install to /usr/loca/games/Savage, so i have to sudo the installer.. but then it gives me permission denied when it has finished and i try to run the newly installed program on this user...07:54
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andrew_i understand why its doing that, just not how to fix it07:54
lupine_85sudo chmod a+x binary-file07:54
paare you member of the games group?07:54
lupine_85it needs to be set to be executable07:54
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ytrerehi07:55
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andrew_yeah i tried that too, i got it to launch the installer fine,07:55
pathe file should already be executable after an installation07:55
steveireFlosoft: look for hirens boot cd. It's good for partitioning07:55
pacheck out the group on the game binary07:55
lupine_85indeed, but "should" and "is" are two different things ;)07:55
_Rover_steveire: yeah hiren roelzzz07:55
paif it is games, ensure that you also belong to the games group07:56
andrew_im too new to linux to really understand how to make links and what not to programs(games) the installer makes some icons for the game for me on my desktop, but when i try to run them i get permission denied07:56
andrew_ok games group07:56
andrew_hmm07:56
lupine_85or maybe it's got a config file which is own3d by root but not writable by andrew_07:56
paandrew do ls -l in the directory where the games exectuable is07:56
lupine_85personally, I'd have installed it into ~/opt07:56
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andrew_ahh confusing07:56
andrew_what if07:57
andrew_i install it into say /home/andrew/games/savage07:57
andrew_then ill have permission to open it once its done right?07:57
payes if you dont sudo the installer07:57
andrew_hrmm ok ty07:57
pai just checked my account, and by default kubuntu doesnt add you to the games group07:57
andrew_another thing.. it is asking me if i want to install a symbolic link into the path /usr/local/bin07:58
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paso that is possibly your problem07:58
payes07:58
andrew_im not too sure what the games group is07:58
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paso you can start the game without typing the path07:58
andrew_ohhh07:58
pasince /usr/local/bin is by default in the path variable07:58
lupine_85note that it's a PITA to get working anyway07:58
andrew_:D07:58
lupine_85it relies on lots of olllllllld libraries07:58
pacause in linux, when you type something without a path07:59
pait doesnt look into the current dir07:59
pait look in the $PATH variable07:59
payou can see it by doing echo $PATH in the konsole07:59
andrew_ohhh07:59
andrew_okay well i just added my user to the games group08:00
andrew_i tihnk08:00
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pawell as i said, this was the default behavior on gentoo, when you installed a games, it would require the user to be part of the game group, i havent installed a game yet on kubuntu, but that would make sense08:01
pai'll try to install one08:01
andrew_hrmm08:01
andrew_i think ive got it working :D08:02
andrew_the installer installed fine, then launched the game fine08:02
andrew_and now it appears to be updating the game fine08:02
kolinanyone know a nice bit about amarok in here?08:02
steveirekolin: Try #amarok08:03
matrixhi08:03
pa:)08:03
arunkalewhats up kolin08:03
andrew_and legends is working too08:03
paso adding yourself to the group fixed it?08:03
pa:)08:03
andrew_yes08:03
andrew_ty08:03
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panp :)08:03
matrixi tried xgl some time ago with no success. Now that my ati9000 moblility is no longer supported in the official ati drivers a friend told me the opensource driver might be even better an work with aiglx08:04
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matrixthere are so many differen voices out there. can anybody help me find a howto for my card with ubuntu and a 3d desktop08:04
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andrew_oh no new problem08:05
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matrixdo i just have to update to efty and switch to the opensource ati drivers (which are they)?08:05
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_Rover_bye all...08:05
andrew_pa are you still ther08:06
andrew_e08:06
ismael_Can anybody help me with an edgy problem? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26772/08:06
payes08:07
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kolinwhat ports does kopete use?08:08
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andrew_okay fixed the next problem by sudo Savage08:08
andrew_instead of just savage08:08
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andrew_i wonder why they dont make it sudo in the first place08:08
payou shouldnt have to do that08:09
Martijn81kolin: depends on the IM network in use i guess08:09
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payou have another permission problem08:09
andrew_doh08:09
przemekismael_: For my mind you don't have some libraries for instance libdl.so.208:09
BluesKajmatrix, "fglrx" drivers for most ati cards08:09
kolincause i am using msn on it and im getting a file from someone and it is going very slow08:09
kolini know many factors could cause this08:09
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paandrew: type this in konsole -l `which savage` and look at the user and group name on the file08:10
ismael_przemek: "locate libdl" does find libraries08:10
paif you see root games or something like this08:10
_Shade_does anyone know how can i set xgl up on my kubuntu edgy beta?08:10
paif your user is really part of the games group, it should work08:10
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andrew_ok im not too sure what to type08:11
matrixBluesKaj: can i start an 3d desktop like aiglx or xgl with them?08:11
andrew_where you put which savage08:11
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payou could always chown the file to your name using chown andrew:andrew `which savage`08:11
pacut and paste what i wrote08:11
pals -l `which savage`08:11
przemekismael_: yes but library loader ( ld - program ) search only in some paths08:12
andrew_it says: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 2006-10-14 13:58 /usr/local/bin/savage -> /home/andrew/games/Savage//Savage08:12
Martijn81kolin: AFAIK msn IS slow in files, no matter what client in use, but i think forwaring of ports has helped me in the past. Wait i'll look in my router for the ports, then you can at least try it08:12
paok08:12
patype this08:12
ismael_przemek: how do I fix the search path?08:12
pasudo chown root:games `which savage`08:12
paand try it again without sudo savage08:13
andrew_says sudo chown root:games `which savage`08:13
andrew_whoops08:13
andrew_hold on08:13
przemekismael_:I do not know but there's another way08:13
andrew_System_Init()08:13
andrew_Game error during initialization:08:13
andrew_Couldn't open scripts.log08:13
andrew_it opens it ok with sudo savage though08:13
pahmmm do ls -l /home/andrew/games/Savage08:14
paand check out the user and group on those files08:14
przemekismael_: We can try it , but I'm not shure if it'll work copy all needed libraries to some folder08:14
Martijn81kolin: TCP  6891 - 6900, and maybe Any(both TCP and UDP)  6901 - 6901 too, not sure about that one (pre-configured rules from router company)08:14
paif it says roots08:14
paroot08:14
pait's because you installed the game using sudo in your account08:15
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paeasily fixable08:15
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ismael_przemek: how do I find out which is the default search path? I could then try to make some symbolic links, right?08:15
andrew_it says root root for everything except for savage which says root games08:15
paok08:15
patype this08:15
przemekismael_:yes08:15
pasudo chown andrew:games -R /home/andrew/games/Savage08:15
paand try savage again08:16
jontec_can anyone tell me why perl scripts are running from my public_html and cgi-bin folder?08:16
pacause you really shouldnt run games with sudo08:16
DaSkreech!xgl > matrix08:16
jontec_aren't*08:16
przemekismael_:You can use environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH to tell ld which path it should search first08:16
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andrew_it says unkown command :'/home/andrew/games/savage'08:16
andrew_couldnt open debug.log for writing08:17
andrew_singal SIGABRT received.08:17
matrix!aiglx > matrix08:17
pawhen you typed savage you got this?08:17
andrew_yes08:17
przemekismael_:for example " LD_LIBRARY_PATH="."  mercury "08:17
pado a ls -l /home/andrew/games/Savage again08:17
paeverything is andrew games?08:18
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andrew_yes08:18
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andrew_crap brb08:19
paok08:19
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przemekismael_:Did you break it :)?08:20
ismael_przemek: I'm trying to make it work :P08:20
przemekismael_: OK08:20
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ismael_przemek: nope... It still can't find them08:22
BluesKajmatrix yes if your card can handle 3d08:22
jontec_why aren't perl scripts running from my public_html and cgi-bin directories?08:22
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jontec_I'm using apache2 and I just installed the perl mod for apache08:23
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przemekismael_: You've made  links in some dir then cd that dir and write "LD_LIBRARY_PATH="." ; mercury"08:23
matrixBluesKaj: it can run google maps with opengl at the moment. but i never had luck with xgl. so i would like to know if something has changed08:23
ismael_przemek: I was pointing ld_lib._path to where those files are... I'll try what you suggest now08:24
andrew_back08:24
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ubuntuhello, what's the best virusscanner for kubuntu that works with a gui, something like avast?08:25
andrew_pa are you still there08:25
przemekismael_: but remember that variables are case sensitive08:26
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przemek:)08:26
ismael_przemek: Yes, I know08:26
payep08:26
andrew_hey08:26
przemekismael_:OK08:26
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orchidhi all08:27
ubuntuand no answer ...08:27
ZenethianWhy does KDE hide certain directories in my root filesystem now?  I can't see /mnt at all from konqueror, and that sucks.  It's interfering with Amarok, because I cannot choose a directory in /mnt for my music.08:27
orchidcan I upgrade from kubuntu breezy to edgy?08:27
Zenethianorchid: I'd upgrade from breezy to dapper, then dapper to edgy.  Just in case.08:27
fdovingZenethian: because the rest are hidden. go to view -> show hidden files to view them all.08:27
andrew_im going to try eternal lands08:27
ismael_orchid: No, upgrade to dapper first08:27
przemekismael_:you can also check needed libraries using "ldd mercury "08:27
fdovingZenethian: you can also edit /.hidden and remove the dirs you want to see.08:27
orchidZenethian: ok,..It will be safer08:28
orchidthanks!08:28
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Zenethianthanks.  :)08:28
orchidhttp://www.desdeguate.com/blog/2006/09/09/kde-4-para-kubuntu-edgy/08:28
andrew_anyone know of a good guide to install compiz with08:28
ismael_przemek: mercury is a script08:28
orchidhave u tried that?08:28
Zenethianthe .hidden change will be what i need.08:28
fdovingorchid: you need to go all the steps, like zenethian says.08:28
ubuntuandrew: do you mean tar.gz-files?08:28
jontec_why won't perl scripts exectue from my cgi-bin folder? (one of the last times I'll ask)08:28
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fdovingjontec_: are they executable?08:29
fdovingjontec_: does other cgi-scripts execute?08:29
przemekismael_:Can you give me a link to script output again?08:29
ismael_przemek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26772/08:29
andrew_im not sure.. its called compiz its a 3d desktop sort of thing08:29
ismael_przemek: doing the symbolic links isn't helping. It still can't find the libraries08:30
jontec_fdoving: I don't have any others to run08:30
jontec_all that I have done is dropped the perl files in.08:30
ubuntuwell, on the ubuntusite you'll find a lot of info08:30
jontec_into the folder I mean08:30
ubuntuhow to install files08:30
fdovingjontec_: what happens when you try to execute them?08:31
jontec_it asks me to download them08:31
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fdovingjontec_: ok, what's the extension? of the scripts?08:31
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jontec_.pl08:31
ubuntusomebody knows how to update kde?08:31
Martijn81ubuntu: update sources.list and then trigger aptitude upgrade08:32
przemekismael_: So maybe try ldd awk to get info what it needs08:32
Martijn81and aptitude update, of course..08:32
ubuntumartijn: ok, thnx08:33
fdovingjontec_: do you have mod_cgi enabled?08:33
andrew_so confusing08:33
jontec_fdoving:don't think so... I just installed the mod-perl08:33
jontec_I wasn't aware that that had to be installed as well O_o08:33
andrew_pa - legends doesnt work anyways as i cant run the update program08:34
ismael_przemek: I don't get it... it says it can't find awk... but it can't find ls either :S I think I broke something08:34
kolinhow do i make kmixer open on start08:34
kolinit used to open when i started my comp and now it doesn't and the little speaker doesn't come up on the sys tray08:35
fdovingjontec_: you actually don't need mod_perl, you can just use mod-cgi for cgi-bin stuff. mod-perl is faster and advanced. but you don't need it for simple scripts in cgi-bin.08:35
mabreauxhas any one install noteedit and got it running?08:35
jontec_fdoving: which one do you recommend as in fast-cgi and some others I see in adept?08:35
ismael_przemek: ldd /usr/bin/awk seems to work and finds that "missing" library08:35
przemekismael_: OK08:36
przemekismael_: What library?08:36
Martijn81ubuntu: be sure you have dapper-updates in the sources.list file too, best to make a fresh one on source-o-matic08:36
Martijn81!easysource08:36
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:36
przemekismael_:libdl.so.2?08:36
ismael_przemek: yes08:36
fdovingjontec_: you don't need to install anything. mod_cgi is included with apache. use 'sudo a2enmod cgi'08:37
andrew_could somone help figure out why sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz compiz-plugins compiz-core compiz-manager csm cgwd cgwd-themes08:37
ismael_przemek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26773/08:37
przemekismael_:Did you try export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="."08:37
andrew_cant find compiz-manager?08:37
lupine_85you want beryl not compiz08:37
lupine_85!beryl08:37
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.08:37
ismael_przemek: yes08:37
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lupine_85http://wiki.beryl-project.org/ for install instructions for edgy and dapper08:37
andrew_isee08:37
andrew_ty08:37
ubuntumartijn: can you tell me where is an explanation in dutch for it, or can you tell me in dutch in a private session or something like that08:38
przemekismael_:try to invoke awk08:38
jontec_fdoving: it yells at me... it says that it's already enabled08:38
fdovingjontec_: then it's enabled :)08:38
ismael_przemek: it works08:38
przemekismael_:can you give me listing of mercury?08:39
ismael_przemek: what do you mean?08:39
jontec_umm... why doesn't it work then?08:39
Martijn81ubuntu: i have nothing against that, but i guess you need to be registered to private message me. You can also try channel #ubuntu-nl though ;)08:40
przemekismael_: cat mercury and paste it on paste.ubuntu...08:40
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jontec_fdoving: http://localhost/~jontec/cgi-bin/dvd11.pl (I removed the name of my local host)08:40
fdovingjontec_: you can try to add 'AddHandler cgi-script .pl' to your vhost.08:40
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ubuntuok, I'll register, but I'm using the livecd so it will take a minute08:40
jontec_fdoving: how?08:41
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jontec_fdoving:and what is vhost?08:41
ismael_przemek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26775/ it's quite long08:41
jontec_fdoving: is it a program or do you mean virtual host?08:41
BluesKajmatrix, sorry but I haven't had much luck with xgl either , my system is capable of it but i lack the knowledge to set it up properly...every time i try to set up XGL it fails to show up ...dunno what I'm doing wrong.08:41
fdovingjontec_: i mean virtual host.08:42
fdovingjontec_: you can take a look at this: http://www.cs.wcupa.edu/~rkline/apache-cgi-lin.html08:42
Martijn81ubuntu: i will be here for some hours, no rush08:43
matrixBluesKaj: me too so I descided to whait till this is more stable as i already dumped more than enought hours into it08:43
fdovingjontec_: it's written for  gentoo/redhat, but you'll find much about the same on ubuntu.08:43
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BluesKajmartix, I have been advised the the fglrx driver is XGL capable08:43
matrixBluesKaj: i know that ati stops supporting the ati9000 with its current drivers. but a friend pointed out that the opensource drivers for ati should work even better for my card and are compatible with aiglx. so new hope grew. he is a gentoo user08:44
BluesKajmaybe when 6.10 is released it will be easier to set up08:45
BluesKajI'd like to try XGL too but.... :(08:45
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ismael_przemek BRB08:45
przemekismael_:?08:45
andrew_arggh08:45
fdovingjontec_: the apache config on ubuntu is /etc/apache2/apache2.conf - open it in a editor with sudo (kmenu -> run command 'kdesu kate /etc/apache2/apache2.conf'  ) search for 'AddHandler' and uncomment the line "AddHandler cgi-script .pl"08:46
matrixis there a tool telling me witch is the fastest mirror for me? do the mirrors have the latest edgy packages?08:46
andrew_guys08:46
andrew_i installed beryl, and it tells me to restart then type beryl-manager08:46
BluesKaj6.10  official release will be on OCT 26 afaik08:46
andrew_and it says it cant find a display08:46
Ghostrider4444martijn: I'm ubuntu, now I'm registered as Ghostrider444408:46
bLaZeDhello all can someone help me get my sound working when watching videos off the net.......my sound used to work great with sites like break.com and others like it...but now i get no sound...only video...whihc sucks cuz sound DID work08:46
Sannematrix: I remember a tool called apt-spy from my Debian days, maybe it's also in Ubuntu.08:47
fdovingandrew_: i suggest askin in #ubuntu-xgl08:47
przemekismael_:I think that I can't help you any more08:47
andrew_ok thanks08:47
andrew_#08:47
przemekismael_: maybe try on #bash?08:47
bLaZeDive got firefox and a few video plugins installed for it....but noen give me sound.....08:48
Sannematrix: it's in universe (I just checked)08:48
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BluesKajubuntu-xgl ppl aren't paying attn mosty of the time , in my experience there08:48
matrixsanne: thanks i will have a look at it08:48
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Sannematrix: you're welcome08:49
soulridercan someone help me set up dual screens ?08:49
andrew_i havent got an answer yet on ubuntu-xhl08:49
andrew_xgl08:49
KDEfanboybLaZeD: you run aRts?08:49
BluesKajerr #ubuntu-xgl08:49
soulridery connected another monitor to my HD TV in my video card08:49
andrew_im going to try rebooting08:49
andrew_brb08:49
soulriderbut i cant see anything there08:49
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bLaZeDKDEfanboy, yea ive tried killing artsd restartiung firefox..nothing......08:49
soulriderwhile my pc was loading i could see a clone of my toher monitor08:49
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Crissihi!08:49
Crissii got the media mount problem solved08:49
Crissi!!!08:49
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jontec_fdoving: still have an error08:50
KDEfanboybLaZeD: have this file? /etc/firefox/firefoxrc08:50
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jontec_wait never minf.08:50
Crissihow i can report that08:50
jontec_gimme a sec08:50
bLaZeDKDEfanboy, yes i do08:50
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bLaZeDKDEfanboy, # which /dev/dsp wrapper to use08:50
bLaZeDFIREFOX_DSP="none"08:50
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bLaZeDKDEfanboy, am i gonna want to change that to like artsd?...or somthng08:51
BluesKajbLaZeD, try this : http://mediawrap.mozdev.org/08:51
Crissiwho is responseable for the kde packages08:51
KDEfanboybLaZeD: you can edit that to change globally or edit ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc. to pipe through aRts, set to "artsdsp"08:52
jontec_fdoving: okay, yeah I still have the same error08:52
KDEfanboyotherwise, "auto", "esd", etc08:52
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bLaZeDk cool KDEfanboy ill try that08:53
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fdovingjontec_: try to rename it to .cgi08:53
peacekprlupine_85: i just wanted to say thanks for helping me get kubuntu installed... "sudo swapoff -a" did the trick08:53
ismael_przemek Thanks for your help!08:54
KDEfanboyactually i think valid options are "auto" "audiooss" "esddsp" "artsdsp" "aoss" and "none"08:54
ismael_przemek: I'll keep looking08:54
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peacekprnow that i am up and running on kubuntu, i have other questions of course.  I did some reading about enabling MP3 format and it seems as though libxine-extracodecs is the package i need, but it's not in multiverse.  has it been replaced by libxine-main1 ?08:54
bLaZeDKDEfanboy, i changed /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to use artsdsp then closed firefox and retsrted it.....went to the site and no sound08:55
Blackenpeacekpr: Use easyubuntu, it'll save you a lot of time.08:55
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Danilo2hello08:55
bLaZeDKDEfanboy, i also didnt have a ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc08:55
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mabreauxwhat is easyubuntu?08:56
jontec_fdoving: it tries to open the file in kate now08:56
Brydenn33how do i uninstall a program if i instaled it from source?08:56
fdovingjontec_: hmm.08:56
KDEfanboybLaZeD: you said you killed aRts, so make sure you restart it then try again.08:56
claydohpeacekpr: did you reload after editoing your package list?08:56
steveireBrydenn33: Did you use sudo make install? And do you still have that directory?08:57
bLaZeDKDEfanboy, i have a artsd already running....i just did ps x08:57
KDEfanboybLaZeD: if that file doesn't exist you can create it08:57
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fdovingBrydenn33: if you used 'make install' to install it, it's kinda hard. you can try to go to the source directory, and run 'make uninstall' if that doesn't work you'll need to delete it file by file manually.08:57
Brydenn33ya i used sodu and no i dont think i still have the directory08:57
Danilo2I need a user of live cd08:57
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Brydenn33lol08:57
Brydenn33that sucks fdoving08:57
KDEfanboybLaZeD: what video play is it?08:57
Sannepeacekpr: this might also be helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats08:57
KDEfanboy*player08:57
Brydenn33thanks though fdoving08:57
steveireBrydenn33: Pity. It's easy if the directory is still there. Just sudo make uninstall08:58
bLaZeDkde i do belive its using the mplayer one08:58
bLaZeD* KDEfanboy08:58
KDEfanboyoh..i thought by plugins you meant flash, etc08:58
jontec_fdoving: the file points to /usr/bin/perl, that is correct for kubuntu, right?08:58
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bLaZeDKDEfanboy, well even with the flash it plays no sound..at break.com u can choose flash or windows media08:59
fdovingjontec_: yes, but that's not the problem, the problem is the webserver, most likely, as you get the option to download it.08:59
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Crissihi sredna08:59
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Crissisredna: you remember the lde media mount problem?09:00
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kyaneoshi09:00
Crissii found the solution for fix it09:00
KDEfanboybLaZeD: i haven't used the mplayer plugin so I don't know where the settings would be for that. if it reads mplayer's, it would be in ~/.mplayer/config where you can change the ao device. the flash should still work though. but test another one.. kill aRts and try "auto"09:01
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Crissisredna: http://paste.debian.net/14885  <=== some files are missing in kde package, after adding it it works agin09:01
Danilo2hello i cant boot properly from 6.06 live cd09:01
srednaCrissi: Thank you09:02
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fdovingjontec_: i recommend reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/httpd.html09:02
Crissisredna: can you update the package?09:02
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srednaCrissi: I can09:02
bLaZeDwell thanks for trying to help KDEfanboy but this f'in thing wotn play sound......used to but now nothing09:03
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bLaZeDi killedall artsd...i changed that file to use "auto" i restarted firefox...but nothing09:03
Raven301Hey Hawkwind  Linux raven301-laptop 2.6.18.1-01 #1 Sat Oct 14 12:34:16 EDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux09:04
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giovannihi there09:05
BluesKajuhoh, adept update failed , now I'm unable to open my home folder , this is the error message ;  /usr/lib/kde3/konq_iconview.so: undefined symbol: _ZN6KParts16BrowserExtension12itemsRemovedERK8QPtrListI9KFileItemE09:05
Crissisredna: if you need these files i can mail you09:06
giovannican someone tell me why kde do not want to shut down anymore? when i click on terminate session simply nothing appens... why?09:06
srednaCrissi: Better fix the hal package, is there a issue posted?09:06
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T3hWiz0rdkubuntu ate my girlfriend :-(09:07
peacekprclaydoh, package is installed, but i see no difference for MP3 playback ;/09:07
yumaT3hWiz0rd: how was that?09:08
joschacan i upgrade a running dapper drake to 6.10?09:08
T3hWiz0rdyuma: lol its something i had put on a t-shirt09:08
joschastop... ok09:08
joschadont answer ;)09:09
yumaT3hWiz0rd: haha, cool!09:09
T3hWiz0rduhm09:09
T3hWiz0rdkde isn't 1009:09
T3hWiz0rdwho ever put that in that topic09:09
T3hWiz0rdits only like... 7 or 809:09
T3hWiz0rdor actually09:10
T3hWiz0rdwow im dumb, nevermind09:10
T3hWiz0rd*sits in corner*09:10
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sleonhi09:10
alyn3dhello all....09:10
sleonhow can i set up this kubuntu box es client of a remote cups server? client.conf in /etc/cups is ignored09:11
alyn3dDid anyone upgrade to KDE 3.5.5 ? Does it worth it ?09:11
bLaZeDwell i uninstalled all the mozzillia video plugins....one by one....and it turns out that it was using a xine one....so uninstalled them all then resinatlled just the mplayer one and it now i have sound again09:11
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fdovingT3hWiz0rd: check kde.org i think they know what they are talking about.09:12
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Crissii dont know if there is a ticket open09:13
T3hWiz0rdfdoving: i already corrected myself thank you.09:13
fdovingT3hWiz0rd: :)09:13
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Jontyhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/uim/+bug/64111 is affecting me. Is there any way to remove it without it calling that script, or does anyone know why it's failing in the first place?09:13
Crissii just installed dapper yesterday and got this issue09:13
T3hWiz0rdfdoving: recorrecting the already corrected only makes them want to put a boot in your ass :-P lmao jk09:13
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fdovingT3hWiz0rd: understand that.. didn't see your own correction before correcting you, sorry about that :)09:14
T3hWiz0rdfdoving: im just kiddin with you, im feisty when i just woke up09:14
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sleonhi09:16
jontec_fdoving: I see this: "ExecCGI - Allow execution of CGI scripts. CGI scripts are not executed if this option is not chosen." but it doesn't tell me how to change it or add it.09:16
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sleonwhy is /etc/cups/client.conf ignored? is it not possible in 6.0.6 to use remote cups server??09:16
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Crissisleon: its not working? I'll try09:17
sleonCrissi: echo ServerName yourserver > /etc/cups/client.conf , then try with kprinter09:18
sleonCrissi: you can also stop cupsd before it09:18
fdovingjontec_: it must be set in the <Directory> section, for the directory containing your cgis. if you have the cgis in /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ you must have a <Directory> entry for /usr/lib/cgi-bin allowing ExecCGI09:18
Crissithats not a good idea09:18
sleonCrissi: kprinter then complains that it can not connect to server on local host and ignores client.conf09:18
Crissiyou w'll overwrite this file09:18
sleonCrissi: there is not client.conf althought cupsys-client is installed09:18
sleonCrissi: thats why i tell say echo09:19
Crissinow i'll configure a remote printer09:19
sleonCrissi: not a remote printer09:19
jontec_fdoving: so is the public_html/cgi-bin/ directory not the default directory? Do I have to set the directory entry for it?09:19
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fdovingjontec_: yes, you have to set a directory entry for it.09:20
sleonCrissi: you need add a server and then you get all printers and theirs settings that are on that server. you need only one line in client.conf09:20
Crissirigth09:20
sleonCrissi: and you do not need to run cups server localy09:20
fdovingjontec_: the default is /usr/lib/cgi-bin09:20
sleonCrissi: but again, client.conf is comehow ignored09:20
fdovingjontec_: either you need to change /etc/apache2/apache2.conf to point to your cgi-bin directory, or you have to put your cgis in /usr/lib/cgi-bin09:21
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thunderstormhi@all09:22
fdovingjontec_: i recommend not to user public_html/cgi-bin though. put the script in for example ~/cgi/ or something not public. and make a 'ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/jontec/cgi' for example. That way users browsing your webserver won't be able to download your scripts, just execute them the proper way.09:23
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Reubenkubuntu makes me cry.09:23
thunderstormi want to change text "abc" to "xyz" in all *.tpl files incl. all subdirectory's - is that possible?09:23
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Reubenanyone know how to configure a broadcom wireless card?09:24
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jontec_fdoving: I see a reference to the document root (which I cannot find inside the ,conf file): Will that affect my reference to the cgi-bin folder because it is in the home directory? I'm not sure how my server is setup now because I have php scripts in the public_html folder that run fine.09:25
jontec_fdoving: I also am only running this locally09:25
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guest1447can somebody help me? i want to change text "abc" to "xyz" in all *.tpl files incl. all subdirectory's - is that possible?09:26
Reubenyes.09:26
fdovingjontec_: php scripts are not handled the same way as cgi scripts.09:27
fdovingjontec_: and no, the DocumentRoot doesn't affect your cgi-bin folder.09:27
joschased -e 's/\sabc/ xyz/g' -i *.tpl09:27
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guest1447i think, its possible with the "sed" command - i can do that with single-files like overall_header.tpl - but i don't know how i can change all tpl-files09:27
Reubenjoscha, that'd only do it in the current domain09:27
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Reuben**directory09:28
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fdovingguest1447: use find. something like 'find . -name "*.tpl"|xargs sed...09:29
routhTheoretically - If I have a laptop that the IDE is gone in, but it works great - and live cd's were too slow for me, I should be able to install Kubuntu on a USB hard drive and boot to it from a floppy correct?09:30
joscharouth:  yes... perhaps your mainboard can directly boot from the usb disk09:31
jontec_fdoving: so my directory reference would look like this? "<Directory "/home/*/public_html/cgi-bin"> and I would have to have on the line before it "Alias /cgi-bin/ "/home/*/public_html/cgi_bin"" ?09:31
joschathen you wouldn't need a floppy09:31
fdovingjontec_: ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/home/*/public_html/cgi-bin"09:32
fdovingjontec_: as i said before, i don't recommend having cgi-bin inside public_html09:32
Ash-FoxARGHAWDADA I can't take these annoying Russians and Chinese contacting me on ICQ all the time.. Why can't kopete have privacy settings09:33
T3hWiz0rdwhy is it when i click administrator mode in the system settings the window gets a red ring around ti but never prompts me for a password09:33
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T3hWiz0rdliterally none of it is working09:33
jontec_fdoving: and then the directory entry (with the execcgi) below the line you just sent me? My school's linux admin (who is also a student) has it setup for all the users this way so that we can upload scripts. I'm trying to model the setup that he has.09:34
jontec_fdoving: for my testing before I distribute a copy09:35
routhjoscha: was hoping so - but no such luck - cheap laptop brand - I need to load grub on a floppy - I used the alt install cd to install and then went into rescue mode and installed grub on a floppy - but I get a grub hard disk error - do I have to load some type of usb support?09:35
fdovingjontec_: yes, 'Option ExecCGI' below the first directory line.09:36
jontec_fdoving: now, where do I put it?09:36
joscharouth: grub can't open the kernel on the usbdisk when there is no support in the mainboard09:37
joschayou have to install the kernel on the floppy disk to09:37
fdovingjontec_: below the '<Directory "/home/*/public_html/cgi-bin">' line09:37
fdovingjontec_: and before the closing </Directory> line09:37
guest1447fdoving: you are wonderful - thats it ! :-)09:37
fdovingguest1447: glad you like me :)09:38
routhjoscha: do you know a good tuturial I can use as guidance on that? installing the kernel on a disk other than the hard drive would be a new one for me09:38
joscharouth: sorry, i have never had to do this (luckily)09:39
guest1447fdoving: i have another question... can i compare two textfiles and save the differences in an seperate file?09:39
routhAnyone else know how to install a kernel and grub on a floppy?09:39
fdovingguest1447: yes, with 'diff'09:39
jontec_fdoving: I mean where do I put the whole thing as in the scriptalias and directory... I should have been more clear09:39
fdovingguest1447: 'man diff' for info.09:39
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guest1447fdoving: thank you very much09:40
fdovingjontec_: ah.. you can put it in a separate file named whatever you want in /etc/apache2/conf.d/09:40
joscharouth: the problem would be that the default kubuntu kernel is > 1.44MB09:40
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joschaand that usbstorage would have to be compiled-in09:40
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crazy_penguinGood night to all!09:41
fdovingnite crazy_penguin.09:42
routhis there a cd or floppy that would allow me to boot from usb rather than the first hard disk which could work around this? Or would I be looking at compiling a custom kernel that could load the partition and then call the ubuntu kernel?09:42
jontec_fdoving: any kind of preamble or just the text that we discussed?09:42
fdovingjontec_: just the text.09:42
fdovingjontec_: with </Directory> at the end. to close the directive.09:42
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soulriderdoes anyone here have experience with dual monitors ?09:44
fdovingsoulrider: running two now.09:44
soulriderok09:44
soulrideri followed the howto09:45
soulriderand i got 2 working09:45
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soulriderbut i wanna change the resolution09:45
soulriderand when i go to system settings09:45
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soulriderin distaply09:45
soulriderit tells me one of ym modules is broken09:45
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fdovingsoulrider: try to run 'displayconfig' from kmenu -> run command..09:46
fdovingsoulrider: make that 'kdesu displayconfig'09:47
soulrideryup09:47
soulrideri get this:09:47
soulriderthe module Display could not be loaded:09:47
fdovingsoulrider: from 'displayconfig' too?09:47
soulriderit sais that maybe during my last KDE upgrade an orphan control module was left09:47
soulrideryup09:47
soulriderwant a screenshot ?09:48
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fdovingsoulrider: no, i know what it looks like.09:48
soulriderok =)09:48
BluesKajhowdy, whats the command to upgrade to kde 3.5.5 ?09:49
Hawkwindfdoving: What was that command you gave me to fix the apt-get from telling me it wants to remove everything ?  And also the directory to delete ?09:49
soulrideri think you gotta add the kde repo09:49
soulriderand then just do update and dist-upgrade09:49
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soulriderhey Hawkwind09:49
HawkwindHey soulrider09:49
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soulrideri stole my dads monitor so im playing with dual displays :P09:50
HawkwindHeh, very kewl09:50
soulrideryup yup09:50
fdovingHawkwind: /var/lib/apt/extended_states is the file to delete if you want to remove all the packages from the autoremove list. and 'apt-mark unmarkauto <pkgs' to remove a list of packages from the autoremove list.09:50
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Hawkwindfdoving: Thanks09:50
fdovingyou're welcome :)09:50
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soulriderso, fdoving any ideas? maybe configuring it by hand ?09:51
soulrideri also need to invert wich screen is on the right and which on the leftr09:51
soulriderthese dual displays are quite glitchy =/09:52
fdovingsoulrider: i did everything manually in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:52
soulriderO.O09:52
fdovingi can guide you if you want me to.09:52
fdovingor you can have my xorg.conf as a reference.09:53
fdovingor both.09:53
soulriderit would be cool, but i dont wanna waste your time since i wont be using them for too long09:53
soulridermy dad is gonna want his monitor back :P09:53
soulrideri think guiding is better09:53
fdovingi can put the xorg.conf online, you can try, if you get problems you can ask. if i'm busy with other stuff i simply don't aswer :)09:53
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soulriderok :)09:54
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charlotteavond09:54
fdovingsoulrider: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/xorg.conf09:55
charlottevraagje... ik krijg m'n kersvers logitech quickcam express niet werkend...09:55
soulriderthanks!09:55
charlotteheb al op het forum gekeken, maar volgens de documentatie zou het met dapper gewoon moeten werken09:55
soulriderargh, i got an NVidia card09:55
fdoving!nl09:55
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl09:55
charlottewhoops09:55
charlottesorry09:56
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fdovingsoulrider: i think that's much about the same setup. don't know, i have ati on all computers.09:56
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charlottequestion - I can't seem to get my fresh logitech quickcam express working09:56
soulrideroh09:56
Hawkwindsoulrider: http://SeerOfSouls.com/miscfiles/xorg.conf09:56
Hawkwindsoulrider: I use Nvidia with twinview.  That's my xorg.conf file there09:56
charlotteI checked the forums and read there that it should be working out of the box in dapper09:56
charlottebut it doesn't :|09:57
soulridergrat!09:57
soulridergreat*09:57
soulriderHawkwind: same card :)09:57
Hawkwindsoulrider: Nope.  I have an FX5200 actually :P09:57
Hawkwindsoulrider: The card name doesn't mean anything.  I got that file from a friend when I installed Dapper :)09:58
soulrideroh lol k09:58
[RV] ThaPriestHey, i just installed kubunto on my pc. And i manged to access my windows drives with my mp3's but i can't play them09:58
soulrideryoure using composite? i wanna get that09:58
soulriderberyl or whatever :P09:58
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zorglu_!mp3 > [RV] ThaPriest09:59
Hawkwindsoulrider: I'm not, no09:59
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Hawkwindsoulrider: I have lines in there for an E17 module that does compositing, but I don't use it09:59
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soulrideroh09:59
zorglu_q. under dapper, i got an important memory leak for 2 apps (eclipse and azureus) using java and gtk, does anybody knows if it is fixed in edgy ?09:59
grasshopperi've installed google earth but its not in my applications/Internet as its supposed to be?09:59
soulrideri was thinking of trying out SUSE09:59
soulrideruntil edgy comes out09:59
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Hawkwindsoulrider: Better hurry.  Edgy comes out in 12 days10:00
soulriderto eb hones, i dont understand anythign in xorg :P10:00
fdovingyou'll miss apt.10:00
soulrideryea Hawkwind10:00
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soulriderive been using the beta10:01
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soulridersicne know 2 :P10:01
soulrideri upgraded from dapper10:01
soulriderbut i got some broken packages and stuff10:01
zorglu_btw edgy will replace dapper ?10:01
HawkwindI'm very seriously considering installing Edgy on this main box within the next couple of days10:01
soulrideri wanna make aclean installation10:01
zorglu_what is the status of edgy ? the new stable release ?10:01
owortyhola10:01
Hawkwindzorglu_: It won't replace it, no10:01
soulriderhola oworty10:01
Hawkwindzorglu_: It's simply the next release of the OS10:01
soulrider!es10:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:02
grasshopperyou guys are brazen adrenalin junkies10:02
owortygracias soulriver10:02
soulriderlol10:02
Hawkwindzorglu_: Edgy becomes final on the 26th of this month10:02
grasshopperfdoving: Edgy is not stable yet!10:02
soulriderive been using edgy since knot 2 and it NEVER crashed10:02
soulrideractually, it allways worked better than dapper10:02
owortytengo un problema con el ktorrent+10:02
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owortyktorrent10:02
soulrider!es10:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:02
Hawkwindgrasshopper: Pretty darn close to it actually.  It's due out in 12 days so not far from being stable10:02
zorglu_Hawkwind: ok thanks10:02
soulridero hablamos por PM10:02
grasshopperplease don't keep talking about edgy, i'm gonna have to get it now!10:02
owortyok gracias10:02
soulriderlol10:02
soulridergeeeet iiiiitttt10:02
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BluesKajHawkwind, have you been using edgy ?10:02
grasshopperHawkwind: 12 days is a long time10:03
soulriderless than 2 weeks :P10:03
Hawkwindgrasshopper: LOL no it's not10:03
grasshopperalot can happen in 12 days10:03
HawkwindBluesKaj: For well over a month in vmware.  Hence why I'm about to make my main box Edgy too.  It's pretty darn stable10:03
grasshopperif it was ready they'd release it today wouldn't they?10:03
BluesKajcool!10:03
Hawkwindgrasshopper: Not really since most things are at a freeze version wise10:03
soulridergrasshopper: it never crashed on me :P10:03
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Hawkwindgrasshopper: No10:03
soulriderand im a n00b, i do all sorts of bad things to my system :P10:04
Hawkwindlivingdaylight: Join #Ubuntu+1 and talk about edgy there.  They can tell you all about it10:04
BluesKajvmware stable ? wow there's something new :)10:04
Karol84PLHello, does anyone know an application to read .lit (Microsoft Reader Ebooks) files on Linux?10:04
livingdaylightHawkwind: ok, never mind just give me the link, i need my fix now!10:04
soulriderBluesKaj: it is10:04
soulriderlol10:04
livingdaylightwhere can i get Edgy right now!10:04
T3hWiz0rdBluesKaj: what is unstable about vmware?10:04
soulriderchange dapper to edgy in all source sin your repos10:05
soulriderand update :P10:05
soulridereasy as that10:05
Hawkwindlivingdaylight: #Ubuntu+110:05
livingdaylightsoulrider: no, i aint doing that10:05
HawkwindI would not suggest an update really10:05
[RV] ThaPriestzorglu_ i manged to run sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs and so on10:05
livingdaylightsoulrider: i'm stupid but not that stupid10:05
soulriderlivingdaylight: thast how i updated my system10:05
livingdaylightcrazy but not that crazy! hehe10:05
soulriderim NOT joking10:05
BluesKajmy experience with it wasn't anything to write home about, T3hWiz0rd10:05
livingdaylightsoulrider: NO, i think you are joking... hehe10:06
[RV] ThaPriestbut i got problems updating amarok10:06
soulriderread the wiki10:06
jontec_fdoving: same problem T_T10:06
soulrideri dont joke witht hat kinds of stuff10:06
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soulriderif i did it would make me a terrible person10:06
soulrider\i know it sounds stupid, but thats how i did it10:06
soulriderask anyone here how to upgrade10:06
BluesKajT3hWiz0rd, had to reinstall a whole lotta drivers after it crashed my system10:06
HawkwindBluesKaj: How is vmware not stable ?10:07
jontec_fdoving: I tried renaming the files and everything, but to no avail.10:07
T3hWiz0rdBluesKaj: i even use vmware on a few big servers and stand behind it10:07
HawkwindBluesKaj: It's used to run many servers in this world.  I'd say it's pretty darn stable10:07
fdovingjontec_: did you restart apache?10:07
BluesKajdunno how it's unstable Hawkwind, hust was on my AMD6410:07
BluesKajjust10:07
HawkwindBluesKaj: That's 64Bit stuff for ya.  It's far from ready for primetime10:07
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BluesKajservers ...I don't run servers10:08
guptais it ok to upgrade libc6 from 6.0 to 6.6 ??10:08
BluesKajrunning 32 bit dapper on my AMD64 ...runs fine10:08
Hawkwindgupta: You mean to get it from 6.10 and put it on 6.06 ?10:08
guptastalonetray depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however:  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.10:09
HawkwindBluesKaj: Vmware is one of the most stable apps out there today really.  It wouldn't be used by major corporations for servers if it wasn't10:09
soulriderlivingdaylight: you there ?10:10
livingdaylightyea10:10
livingdaylightsoulrider: i'm downloading it now!10:10
soulriderhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades chekc out stem number 2 in the upgrading using atp-get section10:10
jontec_fdoving: that'd be why. what's the command?10:10
livingdaylightsoulrider: nah...upgrading is not my style10:10
livingdaylightsoulrider: i'm a firm believer in the fresh install10:11
BluesKajwhy use vitual machine in the firstplace? don't understand the advantages ?10:11
soulriderme too10:11
fdovingjontec_: 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'10:11
livingdaylightsoulrider: oh, good :)10:11
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Flosofthey10:12
livingdaylightsoulrider: i thought you were pointing me to a apt-get distro-upgrade how to10:12
raetsel99handy for trying stuff out BluesKaj in a safe environment10:12
Flosoftwhat GUI can I use to manage WPA and WPA2 Connections?10:12
Flosoftmaybe KNetworkManager?10:12
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soulriderno, i was showing you that you can upgrade by changing the repos from dapper to edgy10:12
soulriderabd that i wasnt joking :P10:12
Flosoftwhat packages do I need for that?10:12
raetsel99and for example CentOS doesn't recognise my Sata card but in a VM machine under Kubuntu I can install and run Centos10:13
livingdaylightsoulrider: lol, i know buddy... You can do that - its just not my style10:13
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jontec_fdoving:'didn't ask me to download the file, but now I can't access my cgi-bin folder... O_o10:15
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jontec_I can access the file... and it gives me an internal server error.10:16
jontec_I'm going to try one of those test scripts10:16
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blu3fir3hey got a problem with ma avi files...   only found divx 4 codec and i need divx 5 someone can help ?10:17
filleBonjour10:17
blu3fir3Bonjour fille :)10:18
filleOn s'amuse avec Kubuntu10:18
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fdovingjontec_: that's progress. the cgi-bin folder behaves like a real cgi-bin folder. you shouldn't be able to browse it and see the list of files.10:18
raetsel99formidable, fille :o)10:18
fdoving!fr10:18
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:18
filled'accord10:19
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Rapidwolveany body know10:21
Rapidwolvea good free ISO burner?10:21
RapidwolveI need it to burn Kubuntu onto a blank cd10:21
Kyralk3b?10:22
raetsel99What o/s Rapidwolve?10:22
Kyraloh wait you meant for Windows...10:22
KyralNope sorry :P10:22
Rapidwolveyeah10:22
Rapidwolvez.z10:22
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jontec_fdoving:the test script runs when it has the proper permissions.. 755.10:22
KyralRapidwolve: just get a CD from Shipit10:22
fdovingjontec_: great :)10:22
jontec_fdoving: but the other one doesn't, the fact that the test file is owned by root wouldn't have any effect would it?10:22
RapidwolveErr why do that when I have the .iso file and a blank cd with me right now10:23
Rapidwolve,kyral10:23
fdovingjontec_: not sure, try to change it then.10:23
KyralRapidwolve: do you have any other Linux live CDs laying around?10:23
RapidwolveOrdering a CD and waiting 4 weeks would be the stupidest thing to do10:23
Rapidwolveand no10:23
Kyral(Preferably KNOPPIX)10:23
HawkwindRapidwolve: alcohol12010:23
Kyralyah and also burn a copy of Knoppix (IMO the best LiveCD going)10:23
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RapidwolveHawkwind: is that free?10:24
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HawkwindRapidwolve: Absolutely10:24
raetsel99have a look on downloads.zdnet.com Rapidwolve there are a few freeware burners on there10:24
RapidwolveI always thought I had to pay for that o_O10:24
T3hWiz0rdKyral: knoppix is annoying sometimes.10:24
HawkwindRapidwolve: http://www.sharewareriver.com/product.php?id=1087010:24
jontec_fdoving: it doesn't look like it... but let me try changing the owners of the others, they access other parts of my computer, I think10:25
KyralT3hWiz0rd: for a general rescue style cd, its awesome10:25
T3hWiz0rdkubuntu live CD is also pretty good but lacks all the same tools.10:25
RapidwolveI can install Kubuntu on a partition from hte Live CD right?10:25
fdovingRapidwolve: yes.10:25
KyralRapidwolve: the Live has an installer10:25
Kyralbut I've heard mixed reactions...10:25
Kyral(I always liked the Debian-based NCurses installer anyway...)10:26
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RapidwolveOk good I was worried for a minute10:26
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T3hWiz0rdKyral: its aa highly compressed light distro installing from it can be a major pain later on.10:26
raetsel99yes rapidwolve just boot from live CD then click the Install icon on the desktop I've used it a  half dozen times on different machines no problem10:27
T3hWiz0rdi had a knoppix box once10:27
KyralT3hWiz0rd: I never use Knoppix as an installed system :P10:27
T3hWiz0rdKyral: i tried it... about 3 years ago there was a hype about knoppix goingf around10:27
jontec_fdoving: no, that doesn't help either, but we've been having trouble with this .pl file anyway... at least it's giving me a server error and not making me download it10:27
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jontec_fdoving: thanks so much for your help this far, though. :D10:27
RapidwolveSo my dell 2400 can run kubuntu10:28
Rapidwolvestock btw10:28
T3hWiz0rdRapidwolve: so can most other computers lol10:29
fdovingjontec_: i think you're up and running with perl cgis. now it's just writing usable scripts left :)10:29
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T3hWiz0rdits been a long time since i used kubuntu last10:29
RapidwolveLast time when I installed through netboot it gave me the network version for some reason :\10:29
T3hWiz0rdmy last endulgance dapper was still highly beta.10:30
Rapidwolvelike when it booted it was just a command line10:30
Rapidwolvex.x10:30
T3hWiz0rdnow dapper is about to be cycled out for edgy10:30
Rapidwolveubuntu drapper drake btw10:30
T3hWiz0rdI left the project for suse10:30
T3hWiz0rdBreezey was way too slow for me10:30
T3hWiz0rdI've come back now, trying dapper drake on a desktop computer... its changed a bit, nicer, leaner, faster.10:30
BluesKaj!Edgy Eft10:31
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule10:31
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T3hWiz0rdkubuntu and I didn't get along very well at first.10:31
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T3hWiz0rdhmmm theres no gui app that shows how much disk space is taken up?10:33
T3hWiz0rdone thing I like about kubuntu next to rpm based is that it seems to install lighter. I only issue 20GB to my / partition10:34
T3hWiz0rdand suse almost filled that up. I have all the same apps now and they're not even over 3 gb yet10:34
BluesKajlooks like edgy won't run well with frglx drivers...is this true ?10:34
T3hWiz0rdfrglx? ati?10:35
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T3hWiz0rdonce i add the kde 3.5.5 repo i run apt-get update and then dist-upgrade right?10:37
fdovingT3hWiz0rd: correct.10:37
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T3hWiz0rdfdoving: alright.10:37
Flosofthey10:37
Flosoftdoes anyone know if Knetworkmanager and WPA2 work?10:37
T3hWiz0rdanyone in here ever get a uvc webcam to work?10:37
Flosoftit doesn't seem to work here10:37
T3hWiz0rdI have the kernel module for it but its... iffy...10:38
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BluesKajok , I was going to try edgy right now but kubuntu-desktop won't install due to probs with language-selector-qt10:38
T3hWiz0rdBluesKaj: punch it in the head10:39
T3hWiz0rdbe like "IM THE BOSS! ME! NOT YOU!"... works for me10:39
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T3hWiz0rdBluesKaj: but then again, im married.10:39
fdovingFlosoft: should work, i can't confirm it does, since i don't use it.10:39
Flosoftwell .. .any other GUI for WPA2?10:39
BluesKajwell, I guess this is why I still use a dual boot with windows...if something doesn't work in kubuntu I have a fallback ...10:40
T3hWiz0rdBluesKaj: 0.o!!!!!!!!10:40
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fdovingFlosoft: wpagui10:40
T3hWiz0rdBluesKaj: I'm not your friend anymore... give me back the power ranger toy i gave you.10:40
RapidwolveI booted Kubuntu from the Live CD and clicked install on the desktop10:40
Rapidwolvebut nothing happens10:40
Rapidwolvecan somebody help?10:41
T3hWiz0rdRapidwolve: perhaps a bad spin?10:41
BluesKajT3hWiz0rd, I'm married too ...for 41 yrs10:41
T3hWiz0rdmy first 2 kubuntu CD's were rather jacked up.10:41
T3hWiz0rdBluesKaj: haha nice.10:41
RapidwolveIs it possible to boot Kubuntu from Harddisk completely10:41
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Rapidwolveinstead of using the cd10:41
Rapidwolvebecause when I boot my computer it says Ubuntu but it looks like it needs the CD to run10:41
Rapidwolveand I dont like it like that10:41
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T3hWiz0rdBluesKaj: i move around linux distros so often i keep my home folder backed up on a 5 GB thumbdrive... and my music and important files all sit on a 250gb drive that never gets edited and all back up to my server nightly10:42
BluesKajyes Rapidwolve, you install kubuntu on a seperate partition10:43
T3hWiz0rdBluesKaj: so when i go to a new distro i format my / partition, preserve my /home, and keep a spare of /home just incase.10:43
RapidwolveI ran the CD and it did all that partition stuff10:43
Rapidwolvebut when i boot my computer10:43
Rapidwolvei select ubuntu10:43
Rapidwolveit reboots10:43
BluesKajyeah, good policy T3hWiz0rd10:43
Rapidwolveand doesnt start it10:43
T3hWiz0rdalright, I gotta end session to load into kde 3.5.5 brb10:43
Rapidwolveim gonna try again10:44
BluesKajRapidwolve, do you see bootup screen with kubuntu in the list ?10:44
BluesKajgeezuz...linux takes patience10:44
KyralEspcially if you use Gentoo :P10:45
BluesKajKyral :)10:45
BluesKajI've gentoo is a bitch10:46
BluesKajheard10:46
KyralWell, once its going its fine10:46
BluesKajthe install10:46
Kyralunfortunately I was using Gentoo during my learning time with Linux...10:46
Kyralwhich meant I broke things on a daily basis and needed to reinstall often :P10:46
BluesKaj started with debian10:47
KyralStarted with Slackware10:47
yetiKyral, unfortunately?! gentoo is a great distro for your 'learning time', the downside is the compiling times10:47
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KyralSlackware is great too :P10:47
BluesKajbut i was so green i had no idea about cmd line uses etc10:47
KyralHeh first thing I had to do was flash my BIOS because there was an error in the version that Windows worked around and Linux didn't10:48
Kyral(This is why I am skeptical of newbies whining that its hard :P)10:48
ricaneliteHello all what is XGL-Compiz??10:48
Kyral!xgl10:48
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:48
BluesKajstill pretty greennoob , but I like learning new stuff ...being retired gives me lots of time fiddle with this stuff :)10:48
KyralBasically really frickin' awesome desktop eye candy10:48
Kyral(Windows Vista eat your heart out)10:49
yetii think the most important thing about a linux distro is the package management, and i think that portage and apt are the best you can get10:49
Kyralpacman is nice too10:49
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yetinever used arch, so i can't comment on that10:49
BluesKajportage?10:49
KyralGentoo's package manager10:49
BluesKajok10:49
yetirpm is a real pain though10:49
Kyraland IMO, Portage is the bastard stepchild of BSD's Ports :P10:50
pacmansomeone said my name?10:50
Kyrallol10:50
BluesKajtried suse but i got to hate yast it was so f...ked up10:50
manu_someone speak italian?10:50
BluesKaj!it10:50
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:50
manu_ok bye10:51
BluesKajyer welcome :)10:51
yetii'm still unsure whether i like kde ;) i've been using ion3 for 2 years now, and am trying kde at the moment10:51
KyralI've used prolly every WM out there10:52
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KyralI used to use GNOME, but design decisions in 2.14 pissed me off10:52
Kyral..and GConf is too much like the Windows Registry10:52
yetiKyral, i think that kde is nice because it has all those hal/dbus/automount stuff really well integrated10:52
yetibut compared to ion3 it's like all messy and slow imo10:53
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T3hWiz0rdBluesKaj: i've always made good practice out of baking up. Its why i made my server.10:53
KyralI use Fluxbox on my 5 year old laptop :P10:53
yetifluxbox is great, too10:54
yetibut since i'm a big console fan, ion3 really rocks for me... it lacks window decorations though, so it's not really perfect for, say, firefox or k3b10:54
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Ace2016Hi all10:55
Ace2016does the kubuntu dvd have extra packages? if so where can i obtain a list?10:55
KyralAcutally on my laptop I have my ~/.xinitrc detect if I'm on AC power or Battery power and start KDE or Fluxbox depending on such10:55
Ace2016Is there an alternative install dvd also?10:55
BluesKajgot some  broken pkg sources10:56
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BluesKajtime to redite my sources list10:56
BluesKajre-edit10:56
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RapidwolveWhat is supposed to happen when I click Install on my Kubuntu desktop10:58
Rapidwolveis anything suppoesd to pop up?10:58
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Rapidwolve?10:59
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TIM67HI my sound has stoped working,but the cd works fine can any some one please help11:01
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TIM67im useing the amarok player11:02
TIM67Using*11:02
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igorhow i configure the programs that inicialize with the linux..?11:04
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igoranbody knows?11:04
TIM67Try and be specific11:05
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RapidwolveHelp!11:08
fdovingigor: when do you want it to start? at boot before login? or when you login? what typeof program?11:08
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RapidwolveWhen I boot Ubuntu it reboots my computer11:08
Rapidwolvehere is my boot.ini11:08
Rapidwolvedefault=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\11:08
Rapidwolvemulti(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\="Ubuntu"11:08
mkquist!pastebin11:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:08
RapidwolveWhats wrong?11:08
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mkquistnm11:08
mkquistthought that might go long....=p11:09
fdovingRapidwolve: ask ##windows if you have a boot.ini why don't you use grub?11:09
RapidwolveAhh ok I will thanks11:09
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_Shade_how can i set up an xgl in kubuntu edgy?11:10
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igorfdoving: hey...the problem is...when the linux starts...the program 'Kate' for example is already runing...how i chose the programs that will be already runningg when the system boots?11:10
method|_Shade_: what kind of video card?11:10
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method|actually nevermind i missed the 'edgy' part of your question11:11
xavierhi where can i get help regarding STATIC SOUND for all TV stations in KdeTv?11:11
igorfdoving: in windows...i used 'msconfig'....in execute (run comand)11:11
fdovingigor: if you leave programs running when you logout they will be 'remembered' as something you want to start when logging in. if you just close the programs and login they should not be there.11:11
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_Shade_method|: so does it make a difference ?11:11
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routhwould it be possible to use the ubuntu cd to start a system mounted on a usb disk with a manually entered root= command>11:12
routh?11:12
fdovingigor: make that.. if you close the programs, logout and re-login they should be gone.11:12
method|honestly i wouldnt know11:12
method|i dont want to give you any bad direction since i have never used edgy11:12
_Shade_method|: well anyways my videocard is an archaic riva tnt 211:12
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igorfdoving: i know that...but is that possible to i chose a program to start when login11:13
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igoralways11:13
igoreven when i closed it...11:13
serishemaigor: add it to your ~/.Xsession?11:13
igorumm11:14
igor:)11:14
fdovingigor: yes, you can make a symlink to the binary in ~/.kde/Autostart/11:14
_El_Chojin_can someone help me to configure my modem?11:14
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igorthanks.... :D11:14
serishemaah that probably works better11:14
igorgood11:14
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clyrradHello room - can someone please tell me how to change the Icon name for mounted shares?  By default it Puts "Remote Share (//blah blah) - I would like to rename it to say something like ShareFolder11:16
xavierhi where can i get help regarding STATIC SOUND for all TV stations in KdeTv?11:16
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nightwolf_How do I change my nickname?11:17
fdovingnightwolf_: /nick newnickname11:17
nightwolf_Cool.11:17
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T3hWiz0rduhm... interesting11:18
T3hWiz0rdmy 2 other partitions aren't recongnized as media anymore, just systme files?11:18
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clyrraddoes anyone know how to rename the ICON mounted shares that gets automatically placed on the desktop?11:19
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nothihello11:19
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coreymon77is ceros here?11:19
clyrradthe name is to long and I would like to shorten it - but its getting set automatically...11:20
nothii'm lookin; for persons using XGL @ kde11:20
LjL!xgl11:20
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nothihm?11:20
The_Night_WolfHow do I get the REAL Linux?11:21
Tm_TThe_Night_Wolf: Define real.11:21
JontyIs there a way in dpkg (or apt) to remove a package without it excepting it's post and prerm scripts?11:21
Tm_TThe_Night_Wolf: Atleast my Kubuntu is imo very real. :)11:21
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The_Night_WolfI'm useing Ubuntu.  Is that's Linux?11:22
JontyThe_Night_Wolf: Are you joking, or don't you realise Linux is only the kernel on which distributions build on. The kernel isn't very useful on its own, but very useful with other programs serving11:22
Tm_TThe_Night_Wolf: Yes.11:22
The_Night_WolfCool.11:22
nothiis there any other compiz/XGL installation HOWTO? i've got this one, there is a proble with missing packages. i've got all needed repos added. sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome cgwd cgwd-themes compizthemer gconf-editor11:22
Tm_TJonty: Don't split hairs, just mess his head more. ;)11:22
BluesKajTm_T, methinks he's pulling yer leg :)11:23
Jontyok11:23
nothii mean this one howto: http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=2006060217365863211:23
fdovingJonty: you can edit the scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.prerm , just add 'exit 0' somewhere near the top.11:23
Tm_TBluesKaj: As long as he don't shag, I'm fine. ;)11:23
Jontyok11:23
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BluesKajok Tm_T11:24
coreymon77is ceros around?11:24
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nothihmmm?11:24
Tm_TBluesKaj: Here you have to be ready to answer really weird questions sometimes as you see. ;)11:24
fdoving!away11:24
ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines11:24
fdovingThe_Night_Wolf: ^^11:24
BluesKajyeah Tm_T , ive tried to answer a few myself altho i still have a lot to learn11:25
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Tm_TBluesKaj: Sometimes answering is best way to learn. :)11:26
JontyHow to I get apt-get to tell me which scripts it is excecuting when?11:26
Tm_TGood night kids, behave and have fun. ->11:26
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fdovingJonty: what do you mean?11:27
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BluesKajTm_T, gawd i hope so :)11:27
JontyI want to know when it is excecuting the scripts, like postrm and things. I want to make the output more verbose11:28
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JontyI think I know the dpkg option to do it - how would I do it in Apt?11:28
fdovingJonty: what's the dpkg option?11:29
Jonty-D-Doctal | --debug=octal11:30
Jontyis the line from the man page, so, say --debug=1011:30
fdovingyou can't do that with apt-get with a switch.. as far as i know..11:31
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fdovingor with -o you can do much about everything. but i don't know what configuration option it would be.11:31
JontyAh, I'm trying to remove something - of course, I can actually do it with dpkg. Never mind.11:32
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fdovingJonty: you can try to set dpkg options with apt-get with 'apt-get -o DPkg::Options "--debug=10"'11:34
Jontyah, Ill bear it in mind11:34
BluesKajdpkg -i file directoty/file11:34
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JontyWhoever it was who told me how to stop postrm scripts excecuting, thankyou very much. It's helped me sort out a major annoyance.11:36
fdoving:)11:36
T3hWiz0rd!dvd11:36
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:36
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coreymon77anywho11:37
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coreymon77i got kde 3.5.5 installed and working11:37
coreymon77whats the dif?11:37
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T3hWiz0rdcoreymon77: its 3.5.511:37
T3hWiz0rdand .5 is 1337!!!11:38
coreymon77between 3.5 and 2.5.511:38
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thelostbyteHelp, Could not find kdeinit ?11:38
coreymon77???11:38
T3hWiz0rdcoreymon77: just some bug fixes a lil better stability.11:38
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Martijn81where should one complain when some packages from kubuntu.org aren't signed?11:39
coreymon77i guess that there wont be any actual real noticible changes till kde 4 right?11:39
T3hWiz0rdodd, some of my media isn't showing up11:40
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RapidwolveHelp! How do I boot Kubuntu from my Hard disk11:40
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JontyRapidwolve: Have you installed it?11:42
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scionhello11:42
RapidwolveJonty: Im not sure11:43
RapidwolveI put in the CD, and then i clicked install on the desktop. When I clicked Ubuntu after reboot it just kept rebooting my computer.11:43
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Rapidwolvemulti(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\="Ubuntu"11:43
Rapidwolvethat was what was in my boot.ini11:43
Rapidwolvein C:\11:43
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clyrradis there a way to rename mounted media?11:44
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method|clyrrad: check out /etc/fstab11:45
method|man fstab11:45
clyrradmethod - yes that is where I mount the media11:45
scion!fstab11:45
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions11:45
coreymon77guys11:45
clyrradbut is it possible to set a name for whats mounted?11:45
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coreymon77is it possible to install firefox 2 through apt11:46
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clyrradI have it mounting 2 network shares11:46
coreymon77or do i have to do it manually11:46
clyrradin fstab11:46
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coreymon77guys11:47
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coreymon77is there ff2 rc2 in a repo anywhere11:47
coreymon77or am i forced the old fashioned way11:48
Dihi, can someone help me with automatix please :(11:48
Martijn81coreymon77: very unlikely for dapper, maybe in edgy, if lucky11:48
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coreymon77so i have to do it the old fashioned way?11:48
clyrradscion - the link that you send me does not show how to name the mounted device - just how to mount it - I am already able to mount the shares - I just want to change the name that appears on the desktop - how can I do this?11:48
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Whopper:)11:49
coreymon77hey guys11:49
fdoving!automatix > di11:49
coreymon77this is my friend whopper11:49
Whopperhey coreymon :)11:49
scionclyrrad: can you not right click and edit it in properties11:49
coreymon77ive just revently converted him to kubuntu11:49
clyrradnope11:49
clyrradI already tried that11:49
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coreymon77so hes just hanging around here to learn a bit before his cds arrive11:50
Martijn81coreymon77: yep, or you have to find some source on the internet you can add to sources.list (but you should be able to trust the source AND the source should be for dapper, so that's unlikely)11:50
clyrradin Properties the name is set how I want it - but on the desktop that is not how it appears.....11:50
Whopperyea, they take so long :(11:50
coreymon77lets make sure his first linux experience is a good one, okay guys11:51
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coreymon77?11:51
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clyrradby default it puts "Remote Share (//path/to/share) ShareName"11:51
Dihi, i know what automatix is, i added the automatix Repositoy but when i want to update the automatix-en package it says 'broke'11:51
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clyrradbut I want the icon to only show the "ShareName"11:51
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clyrradthere must be a way to do this somehow - but for the life of me I cant find it11:52
clyrradgetting no luck on Google either11:52
WhopperHey.11:52
Martijn81coreymon77: from normal sources, firefox 2.0 is only in edgy, look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=firefox&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all11:52
coreymon77okay11:53
WhopperI'm wondering if I should have put (for example: 1111 Wally St. for my address to get the cds; I put 1111 E. Wally Blvd. which is what it says on he sign, is that right?11:53
coreymon77iif thats the case11:53
coreymon77i can just do it the old fashioned way11:53
larson9999wholly smokes!  i bought a p4 at the salvation army for $30.  it's got one of those cases in which the cards aren't held in by screws.  every time i boot at least one of the cards isn't making a good connection.  i reseat one and mess another up.  finally got them all situation but not before i went completing insane11:53
coreymon77it should be alright11:53
Whopperok :)11:53
The_Night_WolfHow do I get "wine" for Ubuntu?11:54
gingillohi, i'd like to download some programs from adept, can someone give me some urls to add?11:55
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larson9999The_Night_Wolf, i add "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to my sources list and then 'sudo apt-get update' ,'sudo apt-get install wine'11:55
fdovingThe_Night_Wolf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine11:55
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clyrradThe_Night_Wolf - use APT-GET11:55
gingilloim a real newb in linux ambient, :P11:56
gingillooh, they are called "repositories"11:56
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larson9999gingillo, i don't know what the sop in here is, but i think the unofficial ubuntu guide does a good job of spelling things out for setting things up.  one caveat is some of the programs it tells you to use might be gnome and you'd have to figure out the kde equivalent or install the particular app it talks about.  give it a go if you like: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper11:58
The_Night_WolfI'm at: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb now how do I download it?11:58
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larson9999The_Night_Wolf, did you get my post?11:59
clyrraduse wget to download it11:59
fdovingclyrrad: what do you do to get the samba share icon onto the desktop? i can't even make it appear :)11:59
larson9999The_Night_Wolf, i add "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to my sources list and then 'sudo apt-get update' ,'sudo apt-get install wine'11:59
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clyrradfdoving - i MOUNT the share11:59
larson9999The_Night_Wolf, that's the easiest way, IMHO11:59
fdovingclyrrad: do you have it in fstab?11:59
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clyrradas soon as  you mount it - an icon gets placed on your desktop12:00
clyrradyes in fstab12:00
clyrradbut I cant figure out how to name the ICON12:00
clyrradits set by default and I cant find where to rename it12:00
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clyrradit makes a big ugly name - and I want it to be 1 line and say Share Folder12:00
The_Night_WolfWhat one do I get at: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/12:00
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clyrradI cant see if fstab has an option that lets you set a "user firendly" name for the mount12:01
larson9999The_Night_Wolf, you just add that to your repository list and then do a 'sudo apt-get update'  then 'sudo apt-get install wine'12:01
T3hWiz0rdif i want to have uptime post on my /etc/motd how would I do that?12:01
T3hWiz0rdlike what command would I add?12:01
larson9999The_Night_Wolf do you know how to add a repository?12:01
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The_Night_WolfI did: "sudo apt-get install wine" and it's installing I think.12:02
larson9999The_Night_Wolf, that repository gets updated pretty quickly with the new versions of wine.  check which version you're installing.  it might be old.12:03
The_Night_WolfHow do I start "wine"?12:03
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larson9999The_Night_Wolf, maybe you should do as fdoving said, "The_Night_Wolf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine"  you really need to read a bit about it.12:04
larson9999The_Night_Wolf, or winehq12:05
The_Night_WolfOkay.12:05
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clyrradI found the answer to my quesion - since no one seemed to know - here it is - hope it saves someone else trouble: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive12:05
fdovingclyrrad: glad you found it, and thanks for letting me know the solution :)12:06
fdovingi'll call it a day. nite all.12:06
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pierreshello, I'm french12:06
blackflagI can not login to webmin as root12:07
pierresI want to have a iso image of Ubuntu on Kubuntu, and12:07
blackflagI changed the password but can not login12:07
fdovingblackflag: known bug, in konsole,run 'sudo passwd' to set a root password, then you'll be able to login to webmin.12:07
blackflagcan someone help12:07
pierresit's always an error: binaries and so one12:07
fdovingblackflag: if that doesn't work i don't know.12:07
fdovingi'm off to bed anyway.. gnite.12:08
pierreswho knows how to load an iso image on Kubuntu?12:08
gsneddersdoes Kubuntu (and Amorak) support AAC out of the box?12:08
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larson9999pierres, you mean mount it so you can see what's on it?12:09
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danny500#icculus.org/quake212:09
RapidwolveCan somebody please help em12:09
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RapidwolveSomebody please help me with my linux installation12:10
RapidwolveI downloaded the LiveCD but now I want to boot from my hard disk12:10
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BluesKajRapidwolve, what's your problem?12:10
RapidwolveBluesKaj, well before I booted from the liveCD of Kubuntu Drapper drake, clicked Start or Install Kubuntu12:11
RapidwolveThen I logged on and clicked the install icon on the desktop12:11
RapidwolveBut nothing happened and when I rebooted my computer it had two options, Windows XP Home Edition and Ubuntu12:11
RapidwolveI selected Ubuntu but everytime i select it it just keeps rebooting my computer12:11
The_Night_WolfYou need to change your BIOS to boot from CD-ROM first then your HD 2nd.12:11
danny500!quake 212:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about quake 2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:12
danny500!quake12:12
ubotuQuake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details12:12
RapidwolveThe thing is, the_night_wolf, I want to boot Kubuntu from my hard drive12:12
BluesKajyeah, take yer cd out of the drive12:12
Rapidwolveand throw the CD away12:12
RapidwolveBluesKaj, I tried that it still kept rebooting it12:12
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Rapidwolvemulti(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\="Ubuntu"12:12
RapidwolveThat is what is in my boot.ini12:12
Rapidwolvealong with my other window's stuff12:13
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