=== Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-147-11.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-4-111.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-106-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-42-9.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:31] Kamion: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/66022 [12:31] Malone bug 66022 in ubiquity "Can't pass map page in Kubuntu Ubiquity" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] === theCore [n=alex@modemcable134.202-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:36] Riddell: "won't let" as in the forward button isn't displayed? [12:37] oh, enabled, hmm [12:37] ok, probably due to the back/forward handling changes I made; I'll investigate [12:37] need to do another ubiquity upload before RC anyway to back out the orca stuff === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D93B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AlinuxOS [n=alinux@d83-176-16-196.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] Riddell: ah, the problem is that it doesn't think a timezone is selected until slightly after the decision whether to enable the forward button is made [12:45] Kamion: how fixable is that? [12:45] Riddell: well, it works in GTK, shouldn't be too hard to fix [12:46] Riddell: I'm happy to take care of it [12:46] in the meantime, the workaround is either to go back/forward as you did, or just to click on a city on the map [12:46] I did click on a city [12:48] er. worked for me. [12:48] which city? [12:48] oh, hey, I see what you mean [12:48] it's probably related ... === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] elif city == "Edinburgh": [12:50] self.city = "London" [12:50] sigh :) [12:51] oh, right, got at least part of it [12:52] missing conversion to allow_go_forward [12:54] well, that was easy === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:02] keescook: re bug 65616, exit code 10 is often debconf's "bad parameters" exit code [01:02] Malone bug 65616 in torrentflux "Upgrade fails" [Undecided,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65616 [01:03] Kamion: good to know; I haven't had time to dig much further with it yet. === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] which can include "the question you tried to operate on doesn't exist" [01:03] evening [01:03] also, this should be done to debian/torrentflux.prerm, although it's not the cause of the bug: [01:03] Kamion: what's the best way to get all the debugging output from these kinds of situations? [01:03] - db_input torrentflux/restart-webserver high || true [01:03] + db_input high torrentflux/restart-webserver || true [01:04] keescook: DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer in the environment turns on debconf debugging, and will tell you exactly what the problem is if the exit code 10 is coming from debconf [01:05] okay, thanks. [01:09] mdz,tfheen: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/ubiquity-1.2.1.diff - OK to upload? [01:11] Kamion: absoloodle [01:16] ta === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:42] oh, damnit, I meant to fix bug 62479 before release - I guess it's not technically RC but it's an easy and fairly innocent-looking way to get ubiquity to crash [01:42] Malone bug 62479 in ubiquity "canonicalise grub device names" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62479 [01:43] any xubuntu dev around? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@unaffiliated/firerabbit] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:45] hey, im trying to set up an apt mirror, do i need an account to rsync from the servers listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive ? === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-147-11.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:50] oh nevermind, i see .. the documentation on the website is horribly wrong [01:51] FireRabbit: which website? [01:52] i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror [01:52] i guess this page is supposed to be the official documentation, but it doesnt explain how to do anything other than mirror EVERYTHING http://www.ubuntu.com/download/mirror [01:54] (it doesnt mention debmirror at all) [01:55] FireRabbit: both of those pages are wikis [01:55] please fix them [01:55] huh? /download/mirror isnt a wiki [01:55] for that, file a bug against ubuntu-website [01:55] ok [01:55] ill rewrite the Debmirror page as soon as i get it set up here === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@host217-44-6-189.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pirast [n=martin@p508B2840.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AlinuxOS [n=alinux@d83-176-16-196.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TerminX [n=terminx@adsl-68-121-160-31.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D93B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj_ [n=robertj@68-117-223-90.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-e6ddbbe9094d17ee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mjg59 [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:57] dholbach << is that his nick? [02:58] somebody is impersonating him right now [02:59] working on banning him if i find out he is === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@16.Red-88-19-42.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@205.Red-83-56-149.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.68] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.68] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === fqh [n=root@219.131.235.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=robertj@68-117-223-90.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] mdz, Kamion, infinity: please approve openoffice.org 2.0.4-0ubuntu1, survives oosmoketest on i386 [03:49] infinity: please build on palmer [03:51] can anyone tell me, has keybuk just not been on in a few days, or do I just not coincide with the right hours of the day? === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.221.153.15] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:52] BHSPitLappy: wrong time of day [03:53] oh... [03:53] so I might catch him tomorrow morning then? [03:53] since the school week has ended === ajmitch shrugs [03:53] perhaps [03:53] well thanks [03:55] Kernel panic - not syncing: no cpio magic. I ask here because I'm hacking my boot loader. =) === theCore [n=alex@modemcable134.202-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:55] What's expected out of Ubuntu's initrds? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shenki [n=shenki@ppp130-178.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:16] tfheen, mdz: kubuntu-default-settings uploaded to fix some issues and do the artwork Ken said, http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/k-d-s.debdiff [04:16] tfheen, mdz: also kdelibs to fix printing issues, just a revertion to the 3.5.4 code === Riddell beds === samuel [n=samuel@219-89-14-36.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bronson [n=bronson@c-71-198-75-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:22] you guys to a wicked job... === samuel [n=samuel@219-89-14-36.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:32] doko: No -l10n upload to go with it? === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.92] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.221.153.15] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:47] keescook: netkit-base fix approved. [04:47] doko: openoffice was pre-approved at the meeting, afaict, so accepting and building it. [04:50] keescook: autogen fix approved at well. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shenki [n=shenki@ppp130-178.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === keescook hugs infinity [05:05] Hug yourself instead, you're doing great work. [05:05] Nice catch on pitti's ping.c breakage, BTW. [05:05] infinity: but hugging oneself tends to looks weird. [05:06] Hobbsee: Still feels oddly comforting sometimes, though. [05:06] true that [05:06] infinity: thanks. :) === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:08] infinity: not only that, he caught the same issue in the john debdiff === ajmitch didn't spot the mistake [05:09] ajmitch: well, you mentioned you'd seen the fix before; else I would never have seen pitti's. :) === RadiantFire [n=ryan@unaffiliated/radiantfire] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@vbn.0051101.lodgenet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:14] keescook: You're booked for UDS-MV, right? [05:14] infinity: I'll be there, but the booking folks are running behind with me for some reason. clan is on it. :) === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:14] keescook: I think I already owe you a drink or two, which may be a new record for a new employee. [05:14] woohoo! :) [05:15] I think I owe pitti drinks forever. :) [05:15] given that my very first exposure to you was reverting one of your uploads, things are looking up. ;) [05:15] heh [05:15] that's a good improvement [05:16] Hmm. Where's the best place to get teh debian/ dir for building a debian kernel image? [05:17] infinity: *sob* yeah. that was bad build environment #1. #2 was on python breakage. #3 is looking up (sbuild+schroot+lvm snapshots) [05:18] keescook: Fancy. I just use a chroot cleaning script. LVM snapshotting sounds saner, but was never high on my TODO. :) === kakaroto [n=cerne@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:59d9] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:19] it's really sweet. Writing up a wiki for it is on my list. === kakaroto [n=cerne@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:59d9] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [05:20] keescook: I'd like to see that - currently I just use pbuilder [05:21] ajmitch: cool, I'll write it up tomorrow. === dous [n=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ajmitch should get back to filing bugs === theCore [n=alex@modemcable134.202-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:28] My directory naming scheme leaves something to be desired... [05:28] adconrad@lucifer:~/fuck/ktorrent-2.0.3$ [05:28] I don't think I was in the best of moods last night. :) [05:29] heh [05:33] 109474 | S- | agave | 0.4.0-0ubuntu3 | 33 minutes [05:33] | * agave/0.4.0-0ubuntu3 Component: universe Section: gnome [05:33] ajmitch: Was that uploaded with your approval? [05:34] Hobbsee: Or, rather, would you like to tell ajmitch why I should accept it? :) === ajmitch pokes Hobbsee [05:35] I'm thinking we should get people to attach debdiffs in malone for things they upload [05:35] given that everyone is just fixing bugs now [05:36] Up to your. Your workflow, your process. :) [05:36] I'm just driving the big red button. [05:36] approve agave, if you will - Hobbsee did put the changelog in there :) [05:36] Accepted. === dous [n=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fqh [n=root@219.131.235.35] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:41] is there a way to make sure an otherwise not-autoloaded module loads at boot-time? (Normally I'd just echo module >> /etc/modules ...) [05:41] That would do it, yes. [05:42] If you need it in the initrd, you cant it in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, if you can wait until after / is mounted, /etc/modules [05:42] so no magic debian tool to do it Right? [05:42] yeah, totally afterwards. [05:42] s/cant it/can put it/ [05:43] No idea what my fingers were thinking there... [05:43] I think it's a bug that lvm tools don't attempt to load the snapshot module when you ask it to do snapshot work. [05:43] Yeah, I'd call that a bug in the tools. [05:43] Manual module loading in /etc/*/modules should really be a last resort. [05:44] yup, that's why I was wondering. :) [05:44] There used to be a Debian tool back in the boot-floppies days (so, woody?) that listed all the modules based on descriptions from modinfo, would let you try to insert them, etc, and would append to /etc/modules as appropriate. [05:45] heh [05:45] I can't seem to find it on my system now, so I assume we did away with it when we decided that hardware detection actually worked well enough to not require it. [05:46] yeah, normally udev and friends handle it all, but not for the LVM tools (dm_mirror for pvmove, and dm_snapshot for lvcreate) [05:46] Yeah, it's my opinion that any userspace utility that needs a kernel module should really be trying to load it on the fly. [05:47] and the error message is really not helpful. :) === Seq [n=chris@CPE000f6690c401-CM0011ae907ae4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:59] infinity: ajmitch: was a 1 line fix. and ajmitch will accept it, else havoc will come to him when he next visits sydney :P [05:59] threats won't help. much === elkbuntu_ [n=melissa@59.167.32.254] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:00] ajmitch: much. [06:00] but thanks for putting the changelog on the bug :) [06:00] hehe [06:00] just don't close it so quick next time, it makes it harder to find [06:01] ajmitch: what, instead of my "fixed, thanks" way? [06:01] fix committed, not fix released [06:01] ajmitch: just subscribe to the entire bugtracker, like you do for the wiki. no more problem [06:01] then i tend to forget about ever marking it as released [06:01] ubuntu-bugs mailing list, great thing [06:02] yeah, well [06:02] so you shouldnt have a trouble finding the bug. [06:02] sigh [06:02] you just want to make things hard for me, I know it [06:02] indeed. [06:03] ajmitch: you mean you didnt know that before? [06:03] oh I knew [06:03] you just underestimated, it seems. [06:04] obviously [06:04] we shall have to discuss this later [06:05] hah. later when? === ajmitch shrugs [06:05] morning [06:05] hi fabbione [06:05] you're up early :) [06:06] as usual [06:06] hey fabbione! [06:06] yoyo [06:08] ajmitch: lets be fair here. if i wanted to make life hard for you, i'd make sure the search was disabled for you in mutt. [06:09] Hobbsee: it takes a little while to search on 140K bug mails [06:09] ajmitch: then you need a quicker search algorithm. or maybe to just delete some of the mail === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-129-5-127.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack_ [n=rudi@p508D9084.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack_ [n=rudi@p508D9084.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:34] infinity: ping? === bronson_ [n=bronson@c-71-198-75-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mempf [n=mempf@S0106000129f69144.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kent [n=kent@82.145.136.38] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rick_ [n=rick@dt041n67.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:14] BenC: it seems like the latest update has broken some people's X. you want syslogs, xorg.0.logs, from them? [07:14] Hobbsee: If it broken i965, then I blame Intel [07:15] k-d-s looks good to me, approved if nobody else has approved it yet. [07:15] why do I always hear this kind of stuff WHILE synaptic is updating [07:15] Kamion: ubiquity looks good, approved (if mdz hasn't already) [07:16] BenC: at least 1 is a nvidia card. [07:16] hiya Sarah [07:16] hey tfheen :) [07:17] Hobbsee: Can you point me to some info? Nothing I just uploaded should break X in any way [07:17] Hobbsee, are you looking for users of that specific card, or users of the broad i9xx category [07:17] BenC: i've been trying to grab the people who *arent* running beryl. There are two on irc so far. [07:18] the beryl-running people are screaming the loudest though. in #ubuntu+1 [07:18] that's because they're the most concerned with visuals [07:19] i965 is probably broken, but then again i965 drm/dri never worked before the latest kernel [07:19] BenC: chuckyp is one user, if you wanted to query him. i cant debug X terribly well - only what i learned when mine broke [07:19] and the problem is userspace i965_dri.so in mesa, not the kernel driver [07:19] apparently the update was due to a kernel [07:19] ahh right [07:19] Hobbsee: Toshiba acpi? [07:20] tritium: that was mine, yes. [07:20] Hobbsee: me too. All better now :) === Hobbsee got her computer running about 10 degrees C hotter than usual, from that :P [07:20] Hobbsee: and you were so ready to blame GNOME, too [07:20] ajmitch: that was later. much later. [07:20] if i965 is causeing problems, I suggest "sudo rm -f /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so" === rick_ [n=rick@dt041n67.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@host-84-9-50-48.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:22] hmmm. seems that the problem isnt fixed in .31, so it's not a kernel problem [07:22] sorry for the noise [07:23] Hobbsee: See my last comment wrt to i965 [07:24] BenC: yep, saw it, thanks [07:24] hey BenC ! [07:24] hey fabio [07:24] BenC: do you think you can look at sparc-utils FTBFS? [07:24] fabbione: in the morning, just heading to bed [07:24] otherwise i can look at it later, but the error is a bit obscure to me [07:24] sure that would do fine [07:25] thanks man! [07:25] np === kristog [n=ballio@energ63.energ.polimi.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-66-141-169-210.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rick_ [n=rick@dt041n67.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [n=anthony@220-253-14-201.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:15] infinity, ajmitch: I've got a prototype for my sbuild/schroot/lvm script up: [08:15] http://people.ubuntu.com/~kees/scripts/mk-sbuild-lv.sh [08:15] yay, thanks [08:16] no problemo. I'm off to bed. *wave* [08:16] now I should modify it to work with xen :) [08:17] heh [08:17] though I think that sbuild should be getting xen support soon [08:17] probably need to patch schroot for that. [08:17] nice [08:17] yep [08:17] I should find out where that's at === imbrandon looks up [08:18] eh [08:18] I haven't tried it lately, but pre-3.0 hand nasty whole-system hangs when using LVM snapshots. Hopefully that's fixed by now. [08:19] oh, and as noted in the script's comments, see my patch to schroot to handle stray processes in the chroot when shutting down: [08:19] at the end of http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=391319 [08:19] Debian bug 391319 in schroot "schroot: leftover processes cause umount to fail" [Normal,Open] === keescook really going to bed now [08:20] night keescook === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@frnk-590c0b37.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@frnk-590c0b37.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B2970.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-39b75971396cc455] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-42-9.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Norgz [n=eroux@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shawarma_away is now known as shawarma === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio__ [n=tonio@120.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shining [n=xav@AFontenayssB-152-1-77-163.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser [n=michael@dialin104201.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=mario@83-131-29-96.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A6040A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:18] Seveas, Bug 65693 is no bug in usplash, our progressbar image is broken [11:18] Malone bug 65693 in edubuntu-artwork "progressbar is distorted " [Medium,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65693 [11:19] but i'll happily try a fixed usplash as well indeed [11:23] ajmitch: 4000 pkgs to go in universe/multiverse [11:23] ajmitch: main/restricted are almost done [11:23] tfheen: ping ? [11:26] 109473 | S- | kubuntu-default-sett | 1:6.10-58 | 7 hours 20 minutes [11:27] | * kubuntu-default-settings/1:6.10-58 Component: main Section: kde [11:27] 109420 | S- | xorg-server | 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12 | 14 hours [11:27] | * xorg-server/1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12 Component: main Section: x11 [11:27] tfheen: Were either of those approved at any point? [11:27] infinity: who uploaded xorg-server? [11:27] infinity: i think the k-d-s ones were. if that's the change to adept, and font. [11:28] Changed-By: Sebastien Bacher [11:28] xorg-server (1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12) edgy; urgency=low [11:28] . [11:28] * debian/patches/17_no_composite_for_xvfb.patch: [11:28] - fix a crasher by not using composite for Xvfb when using -render [11:28] * debian/patches/18_no_composite_for_xvfb_run.patch: [11:28] - use "-extension Composite" to fix xvfb-run crashing [11:28] Hobbsee: I tried to find mention of it in backscroll and could only find Riddell asking for approval, but no one approving it.. [11:29] infinity: ahhh...was that it [11:29] infinity: right.. that was an important bug to fix.. if you want i can review the debdiff [11:30] 20:16 < Riddell> tfheen, mdz: kubuntu-default-settings uploaded to fix some issues and do the [11:30] artwork Ken said, http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/k-d-s.debdiff [11:30] 20:16 < Riddell> tfheen, mdz: also kdelibs to fix printing issues, just a revertion to the 3.5.4 [11:30] code [11:30] 20:16 * Riddell beds [11:30] Yeah, no response after that. === infinity leaves k-d-s there, and goes to grab a debdiff for xorg-server [11:32] fabbione: http://cerberus.0c3.net/~adconrad/xorg.diff [11:33] if I have a script that is doing a grep, how can I avoid it pasting the output and simply tell me if there is output or not? (is that a clear question?) [11:33] mdke_: grep -q [11:34] mdke_: RTFM, please. :) [11:34] sorry. I thought it would be something clever with another command [11:34] if grep -q pattern file; then echo "It found stuff!"; fi [11:34] For instance. === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:36] infinity: so is this going to work? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26720/ [11:36] (adding the -q) === Zdra [n=zdra@18.164-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:38] infinity: there is something fishy in that upload [11:38] infinity: like a patch patching debian/local/ [11:38] infinity: seems to work, thanks [11:39] infinity: we will need to talk to seb.. the 017 seems sane, but the 018 is wrong [11:40] infinity: it shouldn't be in a patch in the first place and i am not sure why he is forcing Composite [11:41] he is not [11:41] fabbione: - is unforcing, + is forcing [11:41] so +extension enables, -extension disables [11:42] giftnudel: yes unforcing.. [11:42] the patch is still wrong there... === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-42-9.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:42] ok, just wanted to make that clear === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:43] Uhm, yeah, patching debian/local looks pretty suspect. :) [11:44] there is also another thing i am not sure it will work properly [11:44] Xvfb extends the cmdline parsing for it's own options [11:44] like -render === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:44] but there is no guarantee that it will be executed after +extension Composite [11:45] so -render might disable composite, while a +extension will reenable it [11:45] it's kind of fishy IMO [11:45] that's probably why he forces -extension [11:46] giftnudel: you can call Xvfb in several ways.. not necessarely via xvfb-run [11:46] oh, so that won't work [11:46] the latter is only a convenient wrapper [11:46] I dunno, that may just be an "enough rope" scenario. [11:47] infinity: i think he is fixing the buildd case [11:47] that's the most common one to be executed via xvfb-run [11:47] If you intentionally call Xvfb directly with incompatible args, I'm inclined to let you keep both pieces. [11:47] infinity: i tend to agree. [11:47] i am worried about wrappers around wrappers here [11:48] anyway let's talk with seb again [11:48] i wouldn't approve it personally.. [11:49] I'm fine with not touching it -- it is my weekend, afterall. :) [11:50] yeah well i am we mode too.. just babysitting the buildd [11:50] root@sunfire:/home# for i in buildd*/build/build-progress; do cat $i |grep -v "^ "; done | wc -l [11:50] 24 [11:50] it's all good :) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:03] doko: idlc is hanging on sparc during the OpenOffice.org build. :/ === mnepton [n=mneptok@mneptok.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shenki [n=shenki@ppp130-178.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kristog [n=ballio@energ63.energ.polimi.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:17] HELLO [12:18] EHLO kristog === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pirast [n=martin@p508B2DC8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lemonade [n=lemonade@83-102-31-137.tampere.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:34] any release manager available ? === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:36] Tonio_: Not *the* RM (tfheen is playing that role this time around), but a member of the release team, yes. [12:36] Tonio_: What do you need? [12:37] infinity: dholbach released a couple of patches for kdebluetooth yesterday [12:38] infinity: they work fine except the autostart desktop file, which requires & end of the Exec command, otherwise kde is blocked and cannot shutdown [12:38] infinity: I have a debdiff and I was searching for someone to approve the upload === nags [n=nags@vbn.0051101.lodgenet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:39] Tonio_: Show me the diff. [12:39] infinity: sure [12:40] infinity: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/27 [12:40] infinity, fabbione: that's bug 59537, apparently a kernel or glibc problem. that's a smp kernel on the buildd? should work fine with a non SMP one. [12:40] Malone bug 59537 in Ubuntu "[sparc] OOo build hangs in futex call" [High,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59537 [12:41] adconrad@artigas:~$ uname -a [12:41] Linux artigas 2.6.15-26-sparc64 #1 Mon Jul 17 19:54:18 UTC 2006 sparc64 GNU/Linux [12:42] doko: An strace is going nowhere, fwiw. [12:42] infinity: that debdiff will close milestone bug 56651 [12:42] Malone bug 56651 in bluez-utils "Impossible to do pairing in Kubuntu" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56651 [12:43] Tonio_: That looks fine to me. [12:43] infinity: okay, can I upload then ? [12:43] Please do. [12:44] infinity: done, thanks ;) [12:45] infinity: yes, and restarting, the build will continue, and randomly hang in a following idlc run === mnepton [n=mneptok@mneptok.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:45] doko: It's hung in the same idlc run twice in a row this time. [12:46] doko: And it's a UP kernel, so if it's the same bug, you're theory's shot. [12:47] infinity: well, you could retry, setting AVAIL_CPUS to 1 in debian/rules. [12:47] 29115 ? R 180:15 idlc @/tmp/mklNOCAb === infinity grumps. === lemo [n=lemonade@83-102-31-137.tampere.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mmtb [n=mmtb@dxq138.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.153.15] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] infinity: zodb uploaded, if you could approve please. drops a python2.3 dependency === dous [n=dous@58.69.179.8] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kristog [n=ballio@energ63.energ.polimi.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-88-217-2-173.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:13] ajmitch: Done. [01:13] doko: OOo is building on the other sparc buildd this time, if it hangs and fails again, we'll have to look at it later. I'm out for the night. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] infinity: have fun! === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-28-13.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [n=herzi@pD9E29802.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-89-130.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel === on_ [n=jpniane@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.144.46] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-89-130.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:47] infinity: both kde-default-settings and xorg-server were approved, yes === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-29-26.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wiggy [n=wichert@home.wiggy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:58] anyone here familiar with what russkaya.ubuntu.com is doing with svn servers? [02:01] wiggy: probably importing the repos to bzr. [02:02] I it would be much appreciated if you contact a project before putting that load on a svn server [02:02] 1gb of traffic in a day is insane if the normal load is 30mb [02:02] that's excessive, agreed. === wiggy firewalled the box off for now until someone officially contacts me about it [02:03] I'll send a mail to the people who are responsible for it and they'll get in touch. [02:03] sorry about it. :-/ [02:04] at least, I'll send a mail once my mail server is back up. [02:04] heh [02:04] thanks === wiggy back to work === wiggy [n=wichert@home.wiggy.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === giftnudel [n=mb@dialin30.stud.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-56-178.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pirast_ [n=martin@p508B2DC8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pirast [n=martin@p508B2DC8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-86-129.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] tfheen: did kdelibs get approved? 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[Undecided,Unconfirmed] === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [03:54] tfheen: kdelibs is in unapproved [03:57] Kamion: I haven't seen the debdiff, but Riddell seems to want it and it'll only affect kubuntu, so approved. [03:57] the debdiff is large and not really readable [03:57] but it's just a revertion to known good code [03:58] 'k; your choice. === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-31-142.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:59] http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/kdelibs.diff [03:59] Riddell: there seems to be a lot of stuff outside the kdeprint directory in there; was that intentional? === olemke [n=olemke@193.10.130.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:05] hmm === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vorbote [n=camael@unaffiliated/vorbote] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9084.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:16] Kamion: they're all fine, it's just caused by me not running a clean rule at the correct time, but I'll upload a cleaner version to do it properly === mnepton [n=mneptok@mneptok.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure 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looking for that information in Malone? [09:18] <_lemsx1_> siretart: or better said, launchpad.net === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:25] lemsx1|gone: I did, but I didn't find him === lbm [n=lbm@130.225.243.71] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:34] siretart: he's /people/henrik === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-13-62.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] Kamion: oh, thanks. do you know if he is still an (active) canonical admin? === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-13-62.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [09:36] siretart: er, depends what you mean by "admin" (he's never been on the sysadmin team), but he's still employed by Canonical yes [09:37] I think Matthew Nuzum does most of the webmastering now, but I'm sure Henrik can point you to the right person [09:38] he was the one who arranged the machine for revu [09:39] I need to contact him because of that === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-238-192.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:50] siretart, his current nick is heno and afaik he can be found in #ubuntu-accessibility === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [09:55] Seveas: thanks. I thought heno was someone else than hno73 === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shining [n=xav@AFontenayssB-152-1-77-163.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-130.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F7353.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@vbn.0051101.lodgenet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === exarkun [n=exarkun@intarweb.us] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:57] Is there any dapper configuration where the powernow-k8 kernel module is loadable? I can't seem to find it, if so. It says "powernow_k8: disagrees about version of symbol cpu_data" and "Unknown symbol cpu_data" when I try to load it. [11:00] Uh, or maybe I forgot to reboot after the last kernel upgrade. === exarkun tries that [11:08] Oh well, that's a different failure mode anyway... === exarkun [n=exarkun@intarweb.us] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === rawler [n=ulrik@c-644de155.98-2-64736c13.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:11] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XlessLoginSpec <- my first spec.. please tell me what you think, both of the structure of the spec, and of the proposal as such.. :) [11:14] rawler: We don't use framebuffers by default now [11:14] And when we did, they were 640x400 in 16 colours [11:14] hmm, allright.. there goes that idea, then.. ,) [11:15] what does the bootsplash use then? [11:17] vesa [11:20] Wonder how long until X desktop migration becomes something people will want. [11:21] wasabi_: X desktop migration as in "connect to running X session"? [11:21] wasabi_: how do you mean? [11:21] Gtk had the beginnings of it, a long time ago. === shawarma_away is now known as shawarma [11:22] THe ability for one app, or all of them, to disconnect from X, and reconnect to another X. [11:22] Reprobe screen layout, readjust self, etc. [11:22] Reupload images, etc. [11:22] mjg59, ping (may I disturb you?) [11:22] wasabi_: doable, but ugly. [11:22] I don't really think it's ugly. ANything that connects to something should be able to cleanly disconenct and reconnect again. :) [11:23] Makes stuff like VNC nice too. You'd have a system VNC server, that when you logged in, GDM popped up on. [11:23] GDM would then migrate your existing desktop to the VNC, and put it's login screen back on the old X server. [11:24] Not saying it isn't massively hard though. Stuff very deep in Gdk. ;) === maswan waves a bit at tfheen from NUCCC [11:24] hiya maswan! [11:24] maswan: how's the crowd? [11:24] I have seen it work, a long time ago, with a little sample program. [11:24] I kindof agree.. however I would prefer a proxied solution in that case, something like what Y-windows were considering.. [11:24] wasabi_: sure, I've written software to make it work. That doesn't mean it's pretty. [11:24] tfheen: It's neat, I just sat opposite a bunch of PVVers at the dinner [11:24] Proxies, like X move, do suck. [11:25] First off, one more layer for everyting to talk to. [11:25] maswan: did quarryman (Jens dne) get my sms? [11:25] wasabi_: you know, our competitor from bug #1 can do JUST that.. ;) (remote login and takeover session) [11:25] Malone bug 1 in ubuntu-meta "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [11:25] tfheen: yup, their singing was somewhat uncoordinated though [11:25] rawler: Yup. [11:25] maswan: heh. :-) The message was about 8 sms-es long.. [11:25] They do it quite a bit differnet though. [11:26]