[12:01] <LjL> randomi: Gaim mostly, i'd assume
[12:01] <SuperMiguel> i just install a windows program with wine but it requieres internet explorer 5 there is any way to run it?
[12:01] <LjL> SuperMiguel: well... install IE5? :)
[12:01] <randomi> LjL: I figured as much but I'm looking for new things to try
[12:01] <SinnerG> nm, I think I found an alternative (check the real user against a list of allowed users)
[12:02] <SuperMiguel> LjL how?
[12:02] <kitche> randomi: well what do you use?
[12:02] <SuperMiguel> using wine to?
[12:02] <LjL> randomi: well, we KDE guys are using Kopete
[12:02] <LjL> SuperMiguel: uh, yes
[12:02] <aLPHa_LeaK> randomi: use gaim, or a centericq
[12:02] <SuperMiguel> umm ok
[12:02] <randomi> kithe: currently using Kopete and have used gAIM
[12:02] <kitche> randomi: what things do you use I mean like yahoo msn and aim
[12:02] <randomi> kitche: really only use MSN and AIM
[12:03] <The_Se3ker> LjL: yes cheers
[12:03] <kitche> randomi: use amsn for msn and not sure about aim but think they ahve their own thing
[12:03] <The_Se3ker> randomi: I use amsn
[12:03] <The_Se3ker> randomi: sudo apt-get install amsn
[12:04] <The_Se3ker> randomi: amsn also supports video
[12:04] <randomi> Does amsn support direct connect?
[12:04] <The_Se3ker> randomi: define direct connect
[12:04] <kitche> amsn is a good close on msn messenger
[12:05] <randomi> Oh I take it amsn won't allow you to connect to AIM as well as MSN?
[12:05] <kitche> randomi: nope only gaim and kopete will allow that I know of
[12:05] <The_Se3ker> as I booted Dapper today. a whole folder had been deleted and I didnt delete it!  has anyone heard of any problems in Dapper deleting whole folders by itself?
[12:06] <The_Se3ker> randomi: I use Gaim and AMSN
[12:06] <tgelter> so, during bootup, when it lists "Assembling RAID arrays" (I use dmraid), it reports "Failed", but I haven't noticed any problems...what can I do to investigate?
[12:06] <patientfox> ok synaptic is the fuller package manager for ubuntu... does anyone know the name of the package for the basic, stripped down "add/remove programs" ultility?
[12:06] <LjL> The_Se3ker: it wasn't in /tmp, was it? :)
[12:07] <kitche> patientfox: apt-get which synaptic is just a frontend to it
[12:07] <LjL> patientfox: i think it's still synaptic
[12:07] <LjL> kitche: synaptic isn't a frontend to apt-get, nor is apt-get the "add/remove programs" utility
[12:07] <Flannel> patientfox: start up alacarte and look to see what add/remove starts
[12:07] <The_Se3ker> LjL: what u men in temp?
[12:07] <randomi> I guess I'll stick to gAIM/Kopete depending on what window manager I'm using
[12:07] <LjL> The_Se3ker: the /tmp directory
[12:07] <patientfox> well the thing is i have xubuntu installed
[12:07] <The_Se3ker> LjL: it was a folder off the home directory
[12:07] <Amaranth> patientfox: it starts gnome-app-install
[12:08] <patientfox> which doesnt came with the "add/remove programs" thing
[12:08] <The_Se3ker> LjL: any trojans that delete whole folders?
[12:08] <Amaranth> patientfox: gksudo gnome-app-install
[12:08] <Amaranth> patientfox: you probably have to install it first
[12:08] <LjL> The_Se3ker: maybe, but i'd doubt that.
[12:08] <randomi> Our of curiosity how do you guys feel about LVM vs. just mounting drives to locations?
[12:08] <patientfox> thanks
[12:08] <lostboyz> hi i was wondering if there is another driver besides fglrx that can render 3d graphics
[12:08] <tgelter> !LVM
[12:08] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:08] <randomi> Both when it comes to reliability and data integrity
[12:09] <Amaranth> randomi: Well with LVM you can resize partitions easier if you need to give something more room
[12:09] <lostboyz> i have a ati graphics card and it freezes whenever i try to logout
[12:09] <Amaranth> randomi: And you can do "snapshots" which can be useful for testing things
[12:10] <Amaranth> lostboyz: Are you using beryl/compiz?
[12:10] <lostboyz> what is that
[12:10] <kitche> LjL: kinda odd that it says it's a frontend to apt on their page
[12:10] <LjL> kitche: APT != apt-get
[12:10] <randomi> I know most of the positives and negatives when it comes to both technologies, but I'm mainly worried about data integrity when it comes to having to re-install ubuntu
[12:10] <Amaranth> lostboyz: Do you have a rotating cube and wobbly windows?
[12:10] <LjL> kitche: apt-get is a frontend to APT. Synaptic is a frontend to APT. Adept is a frontend to APT.
[12:10] <Websteria> how does one make Beryl show the cube from the outside as opposed to the inside?
[12:10] <Amaranth> randomi: Well, LVM only adds positives, I don't know of any negatives.
[12:10] <lostboyz> no i am using the ati driver when it freezes there is a blank screen
[12:11] <Amaranth> randomi: Unless you want to access the data from windows
[12:11] <lostboyz> when i try to shutdown there is only a blank screen
[12:11] <lostboyz> no shutdown
[12:11] <Amaranth> lostboyz: Oh, I don't know then.
[12:11] <Flannel> Websteria: you'd have to ask in #beryl
[12:11] <Websteria> :-)
[12:11] <lostboyz> i was here yesterday and they told me to add modelines
[12:11] <lostboyz> did not work
[12:11] <Amaranth> lostboyz: I don't think the video has anything to do with it, perhaps the kernel just can't power off your system.
[12:12] <randomi> No I'm all linux here at the house so that's not an issue. I know that if you loose your partition information by some weird chance though that data is screwed.
[12:12] <Amaranth> lostboyz: As long as it does all the other shutdown steps it's ok though, you just have to turn the power off manually
[12:12] <Amaranth> randomi: Ah, you're talking about data recovery
[12:12] <randomi> ... and integrity
[12:12] <THX-1138> randdomi - not always. "testdisk" "penguin sleuth kit"
[12:13] <Amaranth> THX-1138: The problem is: Do those programs support LVM?
[12:13] <THX-1138> Amaranth - not likely
[12:13] <Amaranth> If they do using either one is fine. If they don't you don't want to use LVM if that kind of thing worrys you
[12:13] <Amaranth> Personally I think you should worry less about data integrity and recovery and worry more about making good backups
[12:14] <randomi> I'm seriously considering switching to LVM on my desktop but data reliability is a big issue that needs to be thought about on my desktop
[12:14] <THX-1138> Amaranth - Thanks again. - always learning something new here.
[12:14] <randomi> It's a little hard to back up 100+ gigs of data as often as I would need to do it
[12:15] <THX-1138> Amaranth - can i point the tar command at a FAT32 partition?
[12:15] <Xaphoo> I freshly installed Edgy and everything is ok.  I want to get Beryl running, so I install the nvidia beta driver and the sched hack.  I then install beryl and restart.  Everythign is running ok, of course Beryl isn't running yet.  I edit xorg.conf in the ways that I am supposed to and put Beryl in the startup list.  I restart.  Now gnome doesn't start, I just get a black screen.  Does anyone know what the problem is?
[12:15] <Xaphoo> I'm on AMD64 btw
[12:15] <Flannel> THX-1138: tar doesn't care what format the data is on (well, assuming it can read it)
[12:15] <Flannel> Xaphoo: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[12:15] <LjL> !xgl > Xaphoo
[12:15] <Xaphoo> thanks
[12:16] <THX-1138> nvm - I would like to backup my sustem with the scripts listed !backup.  - will there be problems. - apologies for  not being more clear
[12:16] <Amaranth> THX-1138: Not at the /dev/<whatever> no but you can tar up the data with tar cvjf foo.tar.bz2 /media/<whatever>
[12:16] <Amaranth> !backup
[12:16] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[12:16] <Amaranth> I've never used any of that
[12:16] <THX-1138> Amaranth - Why do you have to make it so difficult to return to windows? ;)
[12:16] <The_Se3ker> anyone using rkhunter and when updating, getting a Mirror outdated. Skipped, message?
[12:16] <Amaranth> Hehe
[12:18] <Amaranth> THX-1138: I keep copies of important things on another machine in my network and also make tarballs from time to time to burn to DVD. I'm too disorganized to expect a script to do the right thing.
[12:18] <THX-1138> Amaranth - With good backups you can be fearless in trying new things.
[12:19] <kaliserna48> sorry
[12:19] <Amaranth> THX-1138: True but it's hard to keep 100GB backups when most of the 100GB is worthless stuff
[12:19] <lostboyz> is there another way to render 3d graphics without fglrx?
[12:20] <Amaranth> lostboyz: What video card?
[12:20] <lostboyz> ati radeon express 299
[12:20] <mjr> lostboyz, the default free driver, which works well for radeon <=9250, and is rather experimental on <=x850 upwards of that
[12:20] <lostboyz> 200
[12:20] <mjr> for express, nope
[12:20] <mjr> except software rendering of course, which is slow
[12:21] <lostboyz> i have this problem and all answers aren't working https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/30447
[12:21] <remu> does anyone here have experience with installing ubuntu on compaq v3000 series laptops, im looking to switch over to linux, but i wanna make sure that my drivers will work, ive read some mixed reviews on the forums
[12:22] <mcscruff> remu, no but what do u think might be a problem?
[12:22] <remu> the wireless
[12:22] <marcee> remu dont go to ubuntu
[12:22] <The_Se3ker> LjL: how can I add hda to the fstab?
[12:22] <mcscruff> wireless will work
[12:22] <remu> and using my ntfs external harddrive
[12:22] <mcscruff> even if it dont have a driver u can use a windows one
[12:22] <remu> marcee: why not?
[12:22] <willys_fueguino> hi!! Can someone tell me how to install xubuntu edgy with apt-get install???
[12:23] <jrib> willys_fueguino: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[12:23] <LjL> The_Se3ker: look how the other ones are done in fstab, and add a similar entry for your /dev/hda1...
[12:23] <LjL> The_Se3ker: also, "man fstab"
[12:23] <willys_fueguino> jrib: a new channel??
[12:23] <willys_fueguino> xDDD
[12:23] <LjL> !edgy > willys_fueguino
[12:24] <remu> mcsruff: im looking to use the 64 bit version of ubuntu...i cant seem to find the 64 bit drivers of the windows wireless
[12:24] <SuperMiguel> does any one how to install blitzmax on ubuntu?
[12:25] <Weinerschnitzel> Hey losers.
[12:26] <SonicChao> I can't eject a disc. =(
[12:26] <SuperMiguel> right click on it and click on eject
[12:26] <SonicChao> I know.
[12:26] <SonicChao> It doesn't come out.
[12:26] <Weinerschnitzel> Yeah.
[12:26] <SuperMiguel> press the bottom on the hard device
[12:26] <sn00p> I'm trying to play video from cnn.com and I got totem video plugin install for firefox it still says I dont have a video player anybody know how to fix htis?
[12:26] <Weinerschnitzel> I guess it doesn't, huh?
[12:27] <SonicChao> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[12:27] <SonicChao> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[12:27] <SonicChao> Please check that the disk is entered correctly.
[12:27] <ditoa> hey all
[12:27] <SonicChao> Can I force it to come out?
[12:27] <ditoa> i have a resolution problem
[12:27] <kitche> sn00p: they only support media player and realplayer I believe
[12:27] <ditoa> i am running ubuntu 6.06.1 in VMware (workstation)
[12:27] <sn00p> kitche, so how do I fix this?
[12:27] <ditoa> i have edited my xorg.conf so that it has 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024 listed
[12:28] <SuperMiguel> type on the terminal sudo unmount /media/cdrom0
[12:28] <ditoa> when it boots up the login screen is 1280x1024 but when i login it switches to 1024x768
[12:28] <ditoa> how do i make it boot up as 1024x768 as well?
[12:28] <SonicChao> sudo: unmount: command not found
[12:28] <Die> Hey... does anyone know much about TOVID?             I want to know if the output files will be different in size than the input AVI files.
[12:28] <LjL> ditoa: i guess go into your preferences, and change the resolution for your user
[12:28] <SuperMiguel> sud umount
[12:29] <ditoa> LjL: i have done that, and it is set to 1024x768 (which is what i want) but it doesnt change it before i am logged in
[12:29] <SonicChao> Finally.
[12:29] <SuperMiguel> sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[12:29] <LjL> ditoa: that's normal
[12:29] <SonicChao> thank you
[12:29] <SuperMiguel> xD
[12:29] <ubuntu> :)
[12:29] <Weinerschnitzel> I have huge balls.
[12:29] <SuperMiguel> you get it?
[12:29] <SonicChao> XD Maybe it really doesn't like Windows CDs
[12:29] <ditoa> LjL: how do i set it system wide to 1024x768 then?
[12:29] <SuperMiguel> hehe
[12:29] <LjL> !ops
[12:29] <SonicChao> I inserted the windows CD, and it won't come back out
[12:29] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:29] <SonicChao> :P
[12:30] <gnomefreak> LjL: ?
[12:30] <Die> Help please.
[12:30] <nico> try to remove 1280x768 from xorg.conf
[12:30] <ubuntu> I FIND COOLLL LINUX
[12:30] <LjL> gnomefreak: Weinerschnitzel -- look also at the past logs, of 5 minutes or so ago...
[12:30] <gnomefreak> LjL: nvm saw it
[12:30] <ubuntu> HELP ME
[12:30] <LjL> !caps
[12:30] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:30] <ditoa> i would but i want to keep it available for when i run it full screen
[12:30] <Code-E> !caps
[12:30] <nico> just comment it out for testing if it works then
[12:30] <ditoa> 90% of the time i run it in the vmware window at 1024x768, but the other 10% i like to go fullscreen which is 1280x1024
[12:30] <Code-E> :)
[12:31] <ditoa> ok will give it a try, brb
[12:31] <Code-E> !ati > Code-E
[12:31] <THX-1138> SonicChao:umount -f <path>    eject <path>  eject -t <path>      -t=trayclose
[12:31] <Die> Does anyone know anything about TOVID?
[12:31] <SonicChao> THX-1138: huh?
[12:31] <LjL> ditoa: unfortunately i haven't found a solution to that. i think the GUI resolution preferences still have some troubles.
[12:31] <blaBla> need to change the file owner with chmod, how can I do this ??
[12:31] <LjL> blaBla: you don't. you need chown for that
[12:31] <THX-1138> SonicChao: troub;le with a cdrom?
[12:31] <nico> chown user:group file
[12:32] <ditoa> right x is rebooting
[12:32] <Die> No?  ...  harsh.
[12:32] <ditoa> login screen is at 1024x768 woohoo
[12:32] <SonicChao> THX-1138: I ejected it with "sudo umount /dev/media0", its alright now thanks anyway =)
[12:32] <ditoa> so i am guess X goes with whatever the highest resolution ??
[12:32] <Code-E> !butt secks > Code-E
[12:32] <LjL> ditoa: yeah, but now 1280x1024 won't be available anymore
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about butt secks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <ditoa> is there no way to specify the default resolution?
[12:32] <LjL> ditoa: well, at least the display manager appears to
[12:32] <blaBla> ok, and to change the group ?
[12:32] <SonicChao> Code-E: Please don't abuse the bot.
[12:32] <nico> ditoa: so far i have not found it.
[12:33] <Code-E> O_O
[12:33] <Code-E> the abusing is fun do
[12:33] <SinnerG> how do you enable suid on scripts?
[12:33] <ajmitch> Code-E: don't do it
[12:33] <Code-E> Sry
[12:33] <Code-E> K
[12:33] <SonicChao> Code-E: Abusing = possible ban
[12:33] <Code-E> Sry
[12:33] <ditoa> hmm
[12:33] <SonicChao> It's k
[12:33] <ditoa> another question then ...
[12:33] <nico> blabla: chown (user you want):(group you want) file
[12:33] <Code-E> :)
[12:34] <Code-E> Can I abuse the bot in Private?
[12:34] <SonicChao> :D
[12:34] <ditoa> why does the ubuntu screen res changing app list more resolutions then are in my xorg.conf?
[12:34] <SonicChao> Code-E: Go right ahead. XD
[12:34] <ajmitch> SonicChao: iirc suid root is not honoured for scripts
[12:34] <Code-E> k
[12:34] <ajmitch> sorry
[12:34] <Code-E> :)
[12:34] <LjL> ditoa: hm, i think there *should* be an xorg.conf parameter to choose a default res, but it's escaping me right now
[12:34] <ajmitch> SinnerG: iirc suid root is not honoured for scripts
[12:34] <SonicChao> SonicChao: Uh...? What? o.o
[12:34] <SonicChao> Lawl, pinged myself. o.o
[12:34] <SonicChao> ajmitch*
[12:34] <anon32> how can I make a deb package?
[12:34] <ditoa> well i have only been using ubuntu for like 2 hours now so i have no clue heh
[12:34] <SinnerG> any reason why? I want a php script suid'd
[12:35] <SonicChao> !deb
[12:35] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:35] <anon32> not what I wanted
[12:35] <ajmitch> anon32: read the Ubuntu packaging guide, it's a good introduction
[12:35] <sn00p> when is edgy going to be read y?
[12:35] <anon32> ajmitch, link?
[12:35] <SonicChao> !ubuntu+1 > sn00p
[12:35] <blaBla> to set ownership recursively ????
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <SonicChao> !edgy
[12:35] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:35] <ajmitch> anon32: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[12:35] <blaBla> chown -r bla:bla myfile
[12:35] <SonicChao> !schedule > sn00p
[12:35] <sn00p> oh
[12:35] <sn00p> lol
[12:35] <blaBla> chown -r bla:bla myfile not working
[12:36] <anon32> ajmitch, thanks
[12:36] <Code-E> !smart
[12:36] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[12:36] <LjL> blaBla: "not working" meaning?
[12:36] <truiu> blaBla: maybe you dont have the rights to change the ownership of the file?
[12:36] <blaBla> that's my idea, what's the correct syntax ??
[12:36] <ditoa> what is the name of the x server?
[12:37] <ditoa> is it XOrg ?
[12:37] <Max_-> When Flash installer asks for path where mozilla/opera is installed.. if I use firefox.. what do I say? tried /usr/lib/firefox.. but well installation didn't work.. so I guess I was wrong... thx
[12:37] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[12:37] <truiu> blaBla: your syntax is fine
[12:37] <blaBla> chown -r bla:bla myfile
[12:37] <LjL> blaBla: the one you used. except of course that if "myfile" is actually a *file* (as opposed to a directory), it won't make much sense
[12:37] <truiu> yes
[12:37] <blaBla> invalid option --r
[12:37] <LjL> ditoa: yes... but are you looking for a filename in particular?
[12:37] <LjL> blaBla: -r (or -R), not --r
[12:37] <ditoa> wondering what to search on google for :)
[12:37] <blaBla> yea , I'm typing chown -r bla:bla myfile
[12:38] <blaBla> the error says : invalid option -- r
[12:38] <LjL> blaBla: oh, that's right. according to the manpage, only -R is recognized
[12:38] <blaBla> ok
[12:38] <LjL> blaBla: (which is what i normally use... but i thought all commands that had -R as "recursive" could also take -r)
[12:38] <blaBla> yea.
[12:39] <blaBla> well in this case, only -R worked
[12:40] <Spudulike> I am fighting to load a module I've compiled, complaining about "disagrees about version of symbol".  This is on a fresh install of Dapper but during its first "Software Update" run it installed two kernel images.  Any clues at to why it did this and will it be causing my module loading problem?
[12:41] <jmedina> hi there
[12:42] <jmedina> is there any way tu run again (in a installed system) the program that configures the network in the install?
[12:42] <anon32> why isn't the default kernel 686?
[12:42] <anon32> especially considering how many dual-core CPUs are on the market around now
[12:43] <jmedina> I want to reconfigure the network, and detect new cards
[12:43] <difeta> hey all. I'm trying to load up edgy/dapper on my computer, but the kernel on the live cd keeps panicing. I have an asus m2v motherboard any ideas on what can solve my problem?
[12:43] <bun-bun> jmedina# you could try gnome-nettool or gnome-network-preferences
[12:44] <cpk2> anon32: because the 382 works with almost any computer
[12:44] <THX-1138> Hi tritium.
[12:44] <jmedina> bun-bun: this is a remote machine
[12:44] <cpk2> 386 even
[12:44] <tritonx> hello all
[12:44] <jmedina> I only have ssh
[12:44] <Max_-> When Flash installer asks for path where mozilla/opera is installed.. if I use firefox.. what do I say? tried /usr/lib/firefox.. but well installation didn't work.. so I guess I was wrong... thx
[12:44] <anon32> cpk2, but how many people using those ancient chipsets are interested in a modern OS?
[12:44] <bun-bun> jmedina# no x forwarding?
[12:44] <jmedina> bun-bun: it is a ubuntu server
[12:44] <jmedina> no x
[12:44] <RedKrieg> Anyone know how to change the default program opened when an ipod is connected?  I want it to be banshee
[12:44] <bun-bun> jmedina# then i guess you can use ifconfig
[12:45] <jmedina> bun-bun: yes I know
[12:45] <jmedina> but I can load the modules
[12:45] <cpk2> anon32: using 386 guarentees compatibility with basically any computer, thats why 386 is the default
[12:45] <tritonx> anyone can help me setup a mail server, only need to receive, seems like my port 25 is blocked...
[12:45] <jmedina> I dont know why is not working
[12:45] <jmedina> it is a realtek (8139too)
[12:45] <ditoa> many thanks everyone
[12:45] <jmedina> it is loaded
[12:45] <ditoa> have a good night :)
[12:45] <erUSUL> Max_-: why not just 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree && sudo update-flashplugin'
[12:45] <anon32> tritonx, have you configured iptables?
[12:45] <THX-1138> RedKrieg: gconf-editor <appname that opens ipod>
[12:46] <tritonx> with firestarter
[12:46] <jmedina> I ran ifconfig eth0 ip netmask mask up
[12:46] <jmedina> and nothing
[12:46] <tritonx> I got net sharing to work
[12:46] <tritonx> remote with no-ip works
[12:46] <bun-bun> jmedina# did you restart the network?
[12:46] <jmedina> bun-bun: yes
[12:46] <jmedina> the problem is that I cant load the interface
[12:46] <anon32> tritonx, does your ISP filter that port?
[12:46] <jmedina> siocsifaddr: no such device
[12:46] <jmedina> eth0: error while getting interface flags: no such device
[12:47] <jmedina> so I want to know if running the program that configures the netowrk in the installer helps
[12:47] <jmedina> isnt that command available?
[12:47] <tritonx> I think I read somewhere it block 25, but would they also block 143 ?
[12:47] <tritonx> its sympatico by the way in Quebe
[12:47] <tritonx> c
[12:47] <BlueEagle> jmedina: Which network interface card have you got?
[12:47] <mjr> blocking 143 would be much weirder than blocking 25
[12:48] <jmedina> it is a realtek8138
[12:48] <RedKrieg> THX-1138: hmm...  not quite sure if that helps.  opened gconf-editor and did a find for ipod, but they both just point to rythmbox plugins
[12:48] <jmedina> I know the module es 8139too
[12:48] <BlueEagle> jmedina: What exactly does "lspci|grep network" (w/o the quotes) call it?
[12:48] <jmedina> BlueEagle: it is a 8129
[12:48] <jmedina> 8139
[12:49] <BlueEagle> jmedina: and the module is loaded?
[12:49] <jmedina> it was working with another motherboard
[12:49] <jmedina> I changed
[12:49] <THX-1138> RedKrieg: (I must be the last person on the planet not owining an Ipod) sry
[12:49] <jmedina> yes
[12:49] <tritonx> can't call isp support, they don't support linux lol
[12:49] <ladydoor> THX-1138: second-to-last...
[12:49] <RedKrieg> THX-1138: np, thx any way
[12:49] <BlueEagle> jmedina: I see. Has this new motherboard got an integrated network card?
[12:49] <ladydoor> THX-1138: (i'm the last)
[12:49] <jmedina> BlueEagle: yes that one
[12:50] <BlueEagle> jmedina: So the 8139 is integrated on the mobo?
[12:50] <jmedina> the problem is that im not in front the machine
[12:50] <jmedina> I want to run that programa that autodetect the network cards
[12:50] <neo_> neo@ubuntu:~$ dir
[12:50] <neo_> Desktop
[12:50] <neo_> neo@ubuntu:~$ cd Des*
[12:50] <neo_> neo@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ dir
[12:50] <neo_> install_flash_player_7_linux    uplink-demo-1.31.sh
[12:50] <neo_> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[12:50] <neo_> neo@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ./uplin*
[12:50] <neo_> bash: ./uplink-demo-1.31.sh: Permission denied
[12:50] <neo_> neo@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[12:51] <BlueEagle> jmedina: so the 8139 is integrated in the mobo?
[12:51] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell neo_ about paste
[12:51] <jmedina> BlueEagle: yes
[12:51] <BlueEagle> jmedina: And you have checked the BIOS and verified that it's not disabled there?
[12:51] <jmedina> it is enabled
[12:51] <neo_> im using the root account so why does it say permission denied?
[12:51] <jmedina> because I can see it with lspci
[12:51] <BlueEagle> jmedina: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces please.
[12:51] <tritonx> @neo: check the chown or chmod command
[12:51] <jmedina> BlueEagle: Im not in front the machine
[12:52] <THX-1138> RedKrieg: Maybe somone can tell us if evdev handles hotplug devices and how it can be modified.
[12:52] <jmedina> it is other country
[12:52] <jmedina> hehe
[12:52] <jmedina> without network
[12:52] <RedKrieg> yes, that would be very useful info
[12:52] <RedKrieg> anyone?
[12:52] <BlueEagle> jmedina: So you are unable to verify that the cabling is in order (which I assumed you had)
[12:52] <Ykstort> guys
[12:52] <Ykstort> where are the ubuntu repos ?
[12:53] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell ykstort about easysource
[12:53] <tritonx> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:53] <bun-bun> jmedina# is that the only nic in the computer?
[12:53] <jmedina> BlueEagle: I dont have problems configuring the card by hand
[12:53] <Ykstort> I don't want source code I want binaries
[12:53] <jmedina> but the man infront the computer doesnt know
[12:53] <BlueEagle> ykstort: repositories and sources are synonymous.
[12:53] <erUSUL> !repos > Ykstort
[12:53] <jmedina> and is hard to tell him every command to type
[12:53] <erUSUL> !sources > Ykstort
[12:54] <SinnerG> so if I want to run php under lets say root, I need to create a simple wrapper that checks the uid/gid and if ok calls php with the given filename specified?
[12:54] <Ykstort> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[12:54] <jmedina> so I want to know if he can run that program
[12:54] <SinnerG> uid/gid of the script that is
[12:55] <BlueEagle> !etherconf
[12:55] <ubotu> etherconf: debconf interface to Ethernet device configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.17-0.1 (dapper), package size 41 kB, installed size 188 kB
[12:55] <BlueEagle> jmedina: that ought to help
[12:55] <BlueEagle> jmedina: (googled dpkg-reconfigure and network and read the 2nd link)
[12:55] <jmedina> jeje
[12:56] <THX-1138> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266 ~~~~~ RedKrieg?
[12:56] <jmedina> BlueEagle: I konw have etherconf installed
[12:56] <jmedina> :S
[12:56] <jmedina> and I cant installed without network
[12:56] <BlueEagle> konw?
[12:57] <neo_> tritonx: i did info and chown might be what i need, any ideas on usage?
[12:57] <BlueEagle> jmedina: Ahh, ofcourse. Etherconf isn't on the install cd. :/
[12:57] <jmedina> :S
[12:58] <BlueEagle> jmedina: Well then I would assume having him set up /etc/network/interfaces would be  your best bet. If you've got a dhcp-server that gives out ip-addresses that would be best.
[12:58] <tritonx> @neo: ls -l  to see whats going on, sudo chmod +x (if not root, better not I think) to make executable, chown --help for usage
[12:58] <BlueEagle> jmedina: Can the person at the machine recieve emails on another machine?
[12:58] <BlueEagle> jmedina: Can you send him an SMS?
[12:58] <Lunar_Lamp> how do i get rid of the black animation line frames when minimising windows in gnome?
[12:59] <jmedina> BlueEagle: yes
[12:59] <delight> hi, my gfx-card broke so i changed from a nvidia geforce fx 5200 to a geforce 6200 ... since then i ain't got no 3d support on my card ... whats the best way to fix that in dapper drake ?
[12:59] <jmedina> I wieht him with msn messenger
[12:59] <BlueEagle> !paste
[12:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:59] <tritonx> delight: install the binaries from the repos and change nv to nvidia in your xorg.conf
[01:00] <RedKrieg> THX-1138: HAH found it...  system, preferences, removable drives and media
[01:00] <RedKrieg> THX-1138: thanks!
[01:00] <BlueEagle> jmedina: then something like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26683/ ought to work (You'll ofcourse need to change the IP to something more suitable)
[01:00] <THX-1138> RedKrieg - :)
[01:00] <delight> tritonx: the binaries where installed b4 with my geforce 5200 ... do i need to purge and reinstall ?
[01:01] <jmedina> BlueEagle: thans
[01:01] <BlueEagle> jmedina: however since the machine reports no such interface then that's worse.
[01:01] <jmedina> that file is alredy configured
[01:01] <jmedina> the machine was working
[01:01] <BlueEagle> jmedina: especially since you have verified that the module is loaded with lsmod|grep 8139
[01:01] <avatar_> !help
[01:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:01] <jmedina> but I changed the motherborad
[01:01] <tritonx> delight: could try getting the binary from nvidia and run it after stopping X
[01:02] <tritonx> delight: you might need some files in the process, if you need to compile
[01:03] <clearzen> is there a program for ubuntu  that will convert dvd video to xvid faster than avidemux?
[01:03] <BlueEagle> jmedina: But you do know that the integrated NIC is a 8139, right? And you have verified that lsmod|grep 8139 actually lists the module, right?
[01:03] <delight> tritonx ... I'm not getting it ... why would i need to get the bins from nvidia site now ... the ones from the ?multiverse? was good for me
[01:04] <BlueEagle> jmedina: and he has run: sudo modprobe 8139too
[01:04] <BlueEagle> right?
[01:04] <tritonx> delight: I dunno, i've been on it for a month
[01:04] <BlueEagle> jmedina: and 8139too does exist in /etc/modules, right?
[01:05] <tritonx> delight: they are the ones that works for me, I use the beta cuz I update to edy for 3d desktop
[01:05] <Nookie^> what is the package name to manage network cards
[01:05] <Nookie^> i mean... the network does not work on the laptop
[01:05] <tritonx> oh and amd64 suposedly is better on edgy
[01:05] <tritonx> I think it is
[01:05] <THX-1138> ifconfig??
[01:05] <BlueEagle> nookie^: etherconf might do the trick, but intalling it w/o a network might be tricky. :)
[01:06] <BlueEagle> nookie^: How does the network on the laptop not work? Is it wired or wireless?
[01:06] <delight> i c ... so i will look further into it ... It's a pitty that there is no easy way in dapper ... should be more easy for a stable ... n00b-proof system
[01:06] <warlock> What's the command to copy a dir to another dir? ex everything inside /home/test1 to /home/test2 ?
[01:07] <erUSUL> warlock: cp ??
[01:07] <warlock> cp what? :P
[01:07] <clearzen> sudo cp /home/test1 /home/test2
[01:07] <jmedina> man cp
[01:07] <warlock> cp -R /home/test1 /home/test2 ?
[01:07] <jmedina> :D
[01:07] <BlueEagle> warlock: cp
[01:07] <jmedina> cp -ra
[01:07] <BlueEagle> jmedina: Still no luck after modprobing the module?
[01:07] <tritonx> delight: before did you had full acceleration or basic install, I think they could make it simpler but lawyers don't want them to
[01:07] <warlock> cp only or cp -ra? :p
[01:07] <jmedina> BlueEagle: im waiting for the answer
[01:08] <BlueEagle> jmedina: k
[01:08] <clearzen> cp will work fine. Check out the man pages. Or info cp
[01:08] <jmedina> salio -bash: /sbin/modprobe: cannot execute binary file
[01:08] <jmedina> damn
[01:08] <jvai> ok
[01:08] <BlueEagle> jmedina: sudo modprobe 8139too
[01:08] <jmedina> BlueEagle: he is looged in with root
[01:10] <BlueEagle> jmedina: and the argument passed to modprobe was 8139too and not /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-686/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko
[01:10] <BlueEagle> right?
[01:10] <jmedina> right
[01:10] <jmedina> he cant type that long path
[01:10] <jmedina> hehe
[01:13] <BlueEagle> jmedina: the try: modprobe -nv 8139too
[01:13] <BlueEagle> jmedina: that ought to give some more info.
[01:13] <jmedina> damn he disconnected
[01:14] <BlueEagle> jmedina: Oh, and I see now that I borked on the pastebin I gave you. It should ofcourse be auto eth0 and not eth1 on the first line. :/
[01:14] <jmedina> ok
[01:14] <jmedina> that file is already configured
[01:14] <jmedina> I installed that machine with debootstrap
[01:15] <jmedina> and was working
[01:15] <jmedina> but with other motherboard
[01:15] <BlueEagle> !enter
[01:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:15] <jmedina> sorry
[01:15] <BlueEagle> :)
[01:15] <kitche> don't worry jmedina BlueEagle did it as well :)
[01:16] <fredy> i need to watch tv, i have saa7133 tv card, somebody can to help me, i dont speak english
[01:16] <BlueEagle> no biggie when there are so few people active, but for future reference. Se also http://bash.org/?207373
[01:16] <BlueEagle> fredy: Which language do you speak?
[01:16] <fredy> spanish
[01:16] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell fredy about es
[01:16] <pitt0071> !ipw2200
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw2200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <pitt0071> !ipw
[01:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:17] <fredy> quiero ver tv pero no puede usar mi tarjeta
[01:17] <bruenig> !es
[01:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:17] <ragnar_123> how do I create a profile in phpmyadmin? I tried, logging in as root, and creating a profile, everything went well so far, and when i do try logging on with the new username, it only returns a error 1045, " Access denied for user 'ragnar_123'@'localhost' (using password: YES)". What to do? do I need some additional configuration?
[01:17] <pitt0071> folks does ipw2200 works straight out of the box? i heard so, but it seems that it doesn't...
[01:17] <fredy> ok
[01:17] <Buglouse> W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[01:17] <BlueEagle> fredy: ubotu should have sendt you a /msg about where to get support in spanish.
[01:17] <tasuki> hi, anyone knows where to find a list of ALL installed packages?
[01:17] <Buglouse> im confused to what that message is telling me
[01:18] <BlueEagle> tasuki: synaptic or aptitude
[01:18] <Buglouse> do i need to get the GPG Sigs of the repository?
[01:18] <bruenig> Buglouse, there is some gpg key that needs to be authenticated, should be included on the same site you got the repo line
[01:18] <kitche> Buglouse: you don't have the gpg keys for that repo
[01:18] <BlueEagle> buglouse: Only if you intend to install something from that repo. :)
[01:18] <Buglouse> kitche: thats the think... the keys aren't listed anywhere
[01:18] <Buglouse> thing*
[01:19] <kunee> Hello, i've installed a Tomcat server. you can start it via startup.sh. I wanted to add a jumper on desktop, but it doesnt work. how can i start a *.sh-file from desktop?
[01:19] <tasuki> BlueEagle: I'd like a list... preferably a text file...
[01:19] <sda> Tjena grabbar mitt internet funkar inte , har en Litatude D510 DELL
[01:19] <pitt0071> i have followed some guides about network managers for gnome with ipw2200, when i turn on the card Fn+F2 it gets 100% sig then goes 36% and then 0... any ideas?
[01:19] <sda> Vet ngon hur jag ska g till vga
[01:19] <BlueEagle> tasuki: man apt-cache
[01:19] <bruenig> !de
[01:19] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:19] <BlueEagle> tasuki: You might find something useful there.
[01:19] <tdog> hello everyone.. is there a correct way to install PHP,MYSQL,APACHE , or can i install in any order
[01:19] <Buglouse> kitche: http://www.rarewares.org/index.html
[01:19] <btdown> dutch?
[01:20] <tasuki> BlueEagle: thanks a lot :)
[01:20] <bruenig> !nl
[01:20] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[01:20] <sda> Hi , my internet does not work i have a Litatude D510 Dell , how can i solve it?
[01:20] <Nookie^> sda is total beginner so please help him out
[01:20] <sda> haha
[01:20] <Nookie^> in a kind way
[01:20] <Nookie^> hehe
[01:20] <sda> ^^
[01:21] <tdog> do you have a daul boot ?
[01:21] <tdog> sda
[01:21] <sda> tdog , no
[01:21] <tdog> is your network set to DHCP ?? If so , try to supply ip if you have router set
[01:21] <BlueEagle> tasuki: apt-cache pkgnames > packagelist.txt
[01:22] <sda> yes i have DHCP , how :P?
[01:22] <BlueEagle> tasuki: You might want to put a |sort in there like: apt-cache pkgnames|sort>packagelist.txt
[01:22] <BrUj3riZmO> mp3
[01:22] <tdog> System > Administration> networking
[01:23] <BrUj3riZmO> alguien por ak?
[01:23] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell bruj3rizmo about mp3
[01:23] <tdog> make sure your gate way set to eth0
[01:24] <clearzen> Where is the blacklist file for kernel modules?
[01:24] <tdog> select Ethernet connection and click property
[01:24] <BlueEagle> clearzen: There is a blacklist file for kernel modules?
[01:25] <albino> Is there a way (with aptitude) to say remove package X and all of its depedencies without it trying to fix things?
[01:25] <clearzen> yes I've found it before
[01:25] <clearzen> my friend told me about it but he runs slackware
[01:25] <pedro> hola
[01:26] <BlueEagle> clearzen: google: "kernel modules blacklist" gave the link: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[01:26] <BlueEagle> clearzen: search that site for "blacklist" and see what you get.
[01:26] <clearzen> thanks
[01:27] <BlueEagle> clearzen: You're welcome. I'm always happy to google stuff for people. :)
[01:27] <totall_6_7> lol
[01:28] <tdog> is there specific order to install PHP,MYSQL,APACHE ??
[01:29] <totall_6_7> you'd think you would want to install actually in reverse order from what you have listed, but i dont think it matters much
[01:29] <bruenig> LAMP
[01:29] <tdog> L part is done :) AMP is left
[01:29] <bruenig> in that order
[01:29] <tdog> thanks
[01:29] <bruenig> although I don't think it matters
[01:30] <bruenig> although the L should probably go first
[01:30] <tdog> well, once i installed in different order. i got few issue
[01:30] <tdog> so i try to install in correct order
[01:30] <_slacker_> someone works with tapes backups?????? i need help :(
[01:30] <BlueEagle> tdog: I think apache and mysql both are dependencies of php5-mysql
[01:31] <BlueEagle> tdog: so you would only need to install that one to get all three.
[01:31] <tdog> humm
[01:31] <tdog> interesting
[01:31] <tdog> all i have to do select php5-mysql
[01:31] <tdog> right
[01:31] <tdog> and everythign will install
[01:31] <tdog> ?
[01:31] <warlock> yesyes
[01:31] <tdog> cool
[01:32] <tdog> much easier :)
[01:32] <tdog>  that will isntall apache too ?
[01:32] <tdog> install
[01:33] <Ykstort> Gentoo is superior
[01:33] <tdog> i heard a lot about Gentoo.. so whats sooo speciall about it ?
[01:33] <tdog> they are all linux . right
[01:33] <Ykstort> it is highly awesome
[01:33] <BHSPitLappy> it's a hobby for some people
[01:33] <BHSPitLappy> like gardening
[01:34] <BHSPitLappy> or collecting
[01:34] <Ykstort> tdog, if you've heard a lot about it then you should know what's special
[01:34] <eubu> anyone good at networking i sea my xp maching but cant open the files
[01:34] <BHSPitLappy> some people just like to spend their days configuring their system and compiling programs
[01:34] <tdog> well, i mean looking up the net . i see Gentoo poping out. but never tried to look to see what it dose
[01:34] <tdog> I got ubuntu , because i heard is the best Desktop
[01:35] <Ykstort> yeah but the compiling programs part really isn't as bad as some people say
[01:35] <sda> ubuntu och suse e lika sega fan
[01:35] <Ykstort> it's not like anybody sits and waits while programs compile
[01:35] <BHSPitLappy> it's basically where you compile everything from source.
[01:35] <BHSPitLappy> to... what advantage, exactly?
[01:35] <bruenig> tdog, gentoo
[01:35] <Ykstort> you start compiling and do something for a while
[01:35] <BlueEagle> tdog: actually apache2 isn't listed with: dpkg-cache depends php5-mysql
[01:35] <bruenig> tdog, actually gentoo is probably the hardest
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> Ykstort: They won't kick you for the opinion, but it is off topic, so you'd be welcome, nay, encouraged to discuss such things as Gentoo's merits in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:35] <BHSPitLappy> it's among the hardER distributions to use
[01:35] <BHSPitLappy> not the hardest
[01:35] <tdog> moving from window to linux.. i guess i look for something much easier :)
[01:36] <Ykstort> BHSPitLappy, mostly so you can't download md5sums to check for backdoors, rootkits and such
[01:36] <tdog> Thanks BLueEagle
[01:36] <wilzad> i got ubuntu today, installed it, now i am not able to pair my Pocket PC with Ubuntu in my laptop. please help
[01:36] <BHSPitLappy> Ykstort, has that -ever- even happened with opensource
[01:37] <wilzad> i need to setup my pocket pc as a modem
[01:37] <ubuntu> anyone know any program for windows , who can rescue files of a lionux partition??
[01:37] <Ykstort> BHSPitLappy, I mean like, if you have a binary distro you can download md5sums and check them against your binaries
[01:37] <Ykstort> If they don't match
[01:37] <BHSPitLappy> wilzad, bluetooth isn't so great under linux yet
[01:37] <BlueEagle> tdog: You may want to concider kubuntu as many people concider KDE easier to get used to when going from windows. However in my opinion KDE has become bloated and I have experienced more instabillity on KDE than on gnome. It's a matter of personal choice and preference in the end, but I do recomend you atleast try it once to make up your own mind.
[01:37] <Ykstort> Someone might have altered your binaries
[01:37] <Ykstort> To put in a rootkit or something
[01:37] <ubuntu> anyone know any program for windows , who can rescue files of a lionux partition??
[01:37] <ubuntu> anyone know any program for windows , who can rescue files of a linux partition??***
[01:37] <BHSPitLappy> Ykstort, oh.
[01:38] <BlueEagle> tdog: If you've installed ubuntu all  you need to do is to install the viritual package: kubuntu-desktop to get all you need to run kde.
[01:38] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: Why does the partition need rescuing?
[01:38] <Ykstort> BHSPitLappy, but you can't really do that if you compile the binaries yourself
[01:38] <tdog> i did work with KDE using KNOPPIX . i like the interface . no idea how stable it is .. i just read about the version 3.5.5 with over 388 bug fix
[01:38] <BHSPitLappy> I think freenode should GLine ubuntu.
[01:39] <Ykstort> Unless you md5sum as soon as you've compiled and save the md5sum on a CD
[01:39] <ubuntu> becouse i cant enter to the hardisc
[01:39] <ubuntu> and its the only solution
[01:39] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu, and, more importantly, why don't you rescue from a linux livecd
[01:39] <ubuntu> do u know some program BlueEagle
[01:39] <wilzad> blueeagle where can i get additional packages for my ubuntu 64 bit edition
[01:39] <Ykstort> But even then there could've been a virus of some kind that infects programs that have just been compiled
[01:39] <tdog> im way too new to linux to want to download and install the latest KDE.. no cule as to how at this time
[01:39] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu, there's nothing good on windows for accessing linux partitinos
[01:39] <BlueEagle> wilzad: I do not know, and I am sorry if I made you believe that I would know the answer to that. Have you tried !easysource?
[01:39] <BlueEagle> !easysource
[01:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:40] <ubuntu> i am in a livecd now , but i cant rescue , i mounted my home/user/ and i cant see all my directories
[01:40] <ubuntu> its strange
[01:40] <CaptainMorgan> howdy
[01:40] <ubuntu> and i dont wanna loos my files
[01:40] <Ykstort> BHSPitLappy, there are some tools
[01:40] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu, you sure you mounted it in a correct manner
[01:40] <ubuntu> yes
[01:40] <BHSPitLappy> Ykstort, I said "nothing good"
[01:40] <ubuntu> i am 100% sure
[01:40] <avatar_> /quit
[01:40] <wilzad> no, please advice me on !easysource
[01:40] <tdog> I have Hiren Boot Cd. with tons of Partition program . that i use when i need to do stuff. but i have no idea if they would do what you ask
[01:40] <Ykstort> there's a decent reiserfs one that I've used on occasion
[01:40] <BHSPitLappy> how decent
[01:41] <cM0ss> I have an ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (7500) referred to as a RV200 on the website on video cards...I have installed fglrx (doesn't work) and edited the xorg.conf file to 'driver "radeon"' but still have no hardware acceleration. Where is a web site that will tell me how to set it up for HW accereration?
[01:41] <ubuntu> so any1 know the program
[01:41] <tdog> is a cd , you boot from and choos the programs to repair and stuff
[01:41] <BHSPitLappy> Ykstort, and, did you hear Reiser was jailed as a murder suspect? ^^
[01:41] <ubuntu> or a form to rescue my files
[01:41] <ubuntu> please
[01:41] <ubuntu> i am a newbie
[01:41] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: please join me in #bluehelp so I can help you further.
[01:41] <ubuntu> thanks
[01:41] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu, also consider changing your nickname, please.
[01:42] <tdog> see you guys later :)
[01:42] <factotum> bleh, i just hosed my sources.lst, is there anything i can run to get a new default one?
[01:43] <factotum> dpkg-reconfigure something or other maybe?
[01:43] <wilzad> anybody knows how to setup Pocket PC as a bluetooth modem in ubuntu
[01:43] <Ykstort> BHSPitLappy, yeah I saw it on /.
[01:43] <BHSPitLappy> wilzad, google it, but you might be out of luck
[01:43] <BHSPitLappy> it might be possible, but probably by some insanely complicated means
[01:44] <wilzad> i tried the help.ubuntu.com but i am not able to pair
[01:45] <eubu> can some one tell me how i can open my windows files on a network
[01:46] <cM0ss> I have an ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (7500) referred to as a RV200 on the website on video cards...I have installed fglrx (doesn't work) and edited the xorg.conf file to 'driver "radeon"' but still have no hardware acceleration. Where is a web site that will tell me how to set it up for HW accereration?
[01:46] <zenwhen> cM0ss: it should read "fglrx"
[01:47] <cM0ss> zenwhen...no...nothing under an 8500 is supported by fglrx...and I've tried anyway.
[01:48] <cM0ss> the 7500 is called a RV200 on the Ubuntu hardware site for video cards.
[01:48] <zenwhen> cM0ss:
[01:48] <cM0ss> It said edit the driver to read Radeon
[01:49] <cM0ss> In my other linux I've used before, that was the driver that worked...and it had HW acceleration.
[01:49] <zenwhen> try the steps listed here
[01:49] <zenwhen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219336&highlight=mobility+m6+xgl
[01:49] <zenwhen> even if you do not want xgl
[01:49] <cM0ss> bbiab
[01:50] <SB|nblracer> why wont my hard drives stay enable
[01:50] <peder_> I try to install inetd , and it says that it starts ok but I cant find the process
[01:50] <jmoreno> Hi
[01:51] <jmoreno> there is smp kernel in edgy ? ... I have a TL50 Turion , and only runs one cpu..
[01:51] <profoX`> jmoreno: i think the 686 version is smp by default now
[01:52] <profoX`> no wait..
[01:52] <Elephantium> ...
[01:52] <profoX`> turion is that amd thingy..
[01:52] <profoX`> jmoreno: so you need the k7 version
[01:52] <profoX`> linux-k7
[01:53] <profoX`> SB|nblracer: explain?
[01:53] <jmoreno> I currently have installed the generic .. and it only get one cpu..
[01:53] <jmoreno> profoX`: thanks, i will try
[01:53] <profoX`> SB|nblracer: did you try editing /etc/fstab ? instead of mounting manually ?
[01:53] <profoX`> jmoreno: yea that could be.. i think the generic 386 only steers 1 cpu / 1 core
[01:54] <grothesk> Hi
[01:54] <jmoreno> Ok, thanks, let's try k7-smp !
[01:54] <jmoreno> bye
[01:54] <grothesk> How do I set xorg.conf in gnome? Or do I have to edit it manually?
[01:55] <profoX`> jmoreno: you probably don't need k7-smp i think thats a metapackeg
[01:55] <profoX`> package
[01:56] <profoX`> well k7 == k7-smp according to showpkg so doesnt matter either way
[01:58] <lansing> hey ppl
[01:58] <lansing> i still cant play movies wit that vlc program
[01:59] <grothesk> lansing: Push the play button!
[01:59] <jmoreno> hi again
[01:59] <admin_> what program can i use to overclock my processor?
[01:59] <lansing> iam not that dum
[01:59] <ladydoor> !overclock
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about overclock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <jmoreno> there was no luck with k7-smp ..
[02:00] <jmoreno> in fact "linux-k7-smp - Obsoleted by: linux-generic"
[02:00] <admin_> lansing: any ideas?
[02:00] <lansing> over clockin ur cpu isnt recomended
[02:00] <admin_> lansing: uhm..
[02:00] <lansing> eventually it will over heat and go on fire
[02:00] <admin_> i really dont care if its recommend
[02:01] <lansing> trust me been there
[02:01] <admin_> lansing: no...sure it may overheat..but fire!? Not usualy.
[02:01] <admin_> i've done it through BIOS before..but i cant on this mahcine
[02:01] <admin_> *machine
[02:02] <Overand> admin_: if you can't do it via the BIOS then you'll probably have to come up with a software app to talk to the PLL for your CPU clock gen
[02:02] <Overand> and i'm unaware of the existence of such software for *nix
[02:02] <admin_> hmm ok
[02:02] <grothesk> I don't think there are software tools to overclocking. Usually it is dont through BIOS.
[02:02] <THX-1138> vlc - needa dvd-read. dvd-nav and espescialy libdvdcss2
[02:02] <lansing> is there ne other programs that play dvds
[02:03] <Overand> grothesk: google "SoftFSB"
[02:03] <hcjc92> I'm having a problem, okay well it probably isn't a problem it's probably my stupidity not nkowing what to do, but I have Ubuntu server install and i can't find a battery monitor that will work on my laptop
[02:03] <Overand> I've used them, but we're talking circa 2001 on windows
[02:03] <grothesk> lansing: kopete, totem, mplayer ogle... They all play dvds
[02:04] <THX-1138> lansing - grab libdvdcss2        dvds are defective by design. - why encrypt a movie for pete's sake
[02:04] <lansing> totem dont seem to work n vlc dont work
[02:04] <grothesk> Overand: I'm talking Unix/Linux as of 2006.
[02:04] <grothesk> lansing: Works like a charm here.
[02:05] <lansing> its not workin for me it keeps lockin up my system everytime i try to play a movie
[02:05] <cd32fan> good night folks
[02:05] <THX-1138> !restrictedformats
[02:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:05] <hcjc92> Anyone about my battery thing
[02:05] <grothesk> I needed little more than that lib we all know about.
[02:05] <grothesk> lansing: Do you have graphics driver installed?
[02:06] <cd32fan> can someone please explain how i can gain permission to edit the xorg.conf ?
[02:06] <hcjc92> sudo...
[02:06] <lansing> unless it comes wit vlc or brezzy probly not
[02:06] <grothesk> cd32fan: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:06] <ryanakca> What's the kubuntu/ubuntu motto again? Humanity to others or something of the sort?
[02:06] <grothesk> lansing: Than you should work on those.
[02:07] <Shadow_mil> How can I run another X in another tty that I can go to by pressing ctrl + alt + F9?
[02:07] <ryanakca> !motto
[02:07] <jvai> "linux for human beings"
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <lansing> cus wat vlc does is it has lines all over the screen then locks up
[02:07] <ryanakca> jvai: thanks
[02:07] <Quinn_Storm> I'm curious...with the (medium-sized) possibility that reiserfs development will suffer in the near future, and with the consistent reports of ext3 having trouble (and the fact that reiser can easily get into a state where grub 0.x can't understand it), what fs would you all recommend?
[02:07] <jvai> np
[02:07] <lansing> and glitchs all throu the movie
[02:08] <cd32fan> grothesk: but how can i gain permission to write the file?
[02:08] <admin_> anyone know of somehow a type of BIOS i could get onto an old thnkpad i have, use it, and hope it has options to change FSB?
[02:08] <grothesk> lansing: You are still on breezy?
[02:08] <lansing> yes
[02:08] <THX-1138> ryanakca - Yes, Why should an Operating system cost 400 dollars? - half of the world can't afford thatmuch. - Internet for everyone! :)3;2~
[02:08] <lansing> i dont have the install disk for dapper
[02:08] <admin_> i have dapper
[02:08] <jvai> lol.. dont sweat it lansing.. i'm on hoary still
[02:08] <grothesk> lansing: What graphics card do you have?
[02:09] <cd32fan> what are the commands for permission?
[02:09] <admin_> i attempted edgy on a test crap system...its wayy buggy
[02:09] <grothesk> lansing: Order some through shipit.
[02:09] <admin_> i had kernel panics after restart
[02:09] <ryanakca> jvai: "Linux for Human Beings", "Linux For Human Beings", or "linux for human beings"   (capitalisation matters, I'm working on the RC image for kubuntu)
[02:09] <lansing> ive got 3d card
[02:09] <hcjc92> I've got wmbattery and when i run it it says "no apm, acpi, or spic support in kernel" how do i add one of those to hte kernel
[02:09] <lansing> thats all i know
[02:09] <jvai> ty ryanaka.. i stand corrected
[02:09] <grothesk> lansing: That is not too much you know about your system.
[02:09] <THX-1138> "for" ?
[02:10] <ryanakca> jvai: no, it's a question... 1st, 2nd, or 3rd?
[02:10] <grothesk> lansing: Try to lspci for your card.
[02:10] <ryanakca> jvai: I'm not correcting you :)
[02:10] <jvai> the 1st... it comes up in the splash boot screen
[02:10] <ryanakca> jvai: lol, thanks
[02:10] <ShackJack> Hi guys - I can't seem to get a splash image to load for my GRUB in edgy.... Image is there and in right format and I have the proper entry in my menu.1st: splashimage hd(0,4)/boot/grub/images/digitalangel.xpm.gz  and thoughts on what it could be?
[02:11] <lansing>  Trident Microsystems 3DImage 9750
[02:11] <grothesk> lansing: No wonder you have a crappy output.
[02:11] <hcjc92> will someone help me with the problem of no battery monitor wokring on my laptop...
[02:12] <ShackJack> hcjc92 - you have it added to your panel?
[02:12] <hcjc92> huh? i havn't a clue what your talking about so i'm assuming it's a gnome thing, i'm running server with fluxbox
[02:12] <lansing> so how do i fix it
[02:13] <Antrixx> hey ubuntuers =)
[02:13] <Crippy-Boy> Hey
[02:13] <ShackJack> hcjc92 - gotcha - I was assuming gnome as you are in the ubuntu forum...
[02:13] <Antrixx> any of you develop with gtkmm/cairomm by any chance ? (yep, its ubuntu related)
[02:13] <hcjc92> let me change my quesiton, how can i add acpi/apm support to my kernel (i assume that consists of recompiling with one of them, but i don't know how)
[02:13] <ShackJack> In Gnome you have to add it to your panel to display and enable it under settings
[02:14] <meatface> hey all
[02:14] <Crippy-Boy> 'Lo
[02:14] <ShackJack> meatface - how did U get meat on your face :)
[02:14] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[02:14] <meatface> long story
[02:15] <ShackJack> I love Edgy except for some reason I can't get a GRUB image loading on it....
[02:15] <meatface> can anyone tell me if intalling ubuntu i386 on a i686 machine will make a difference?
[02:15] <grothesk> lansing: I really don't know anything about that card. But I'm sure, that it is way to slow for a decent ooutput of DVD.
[02:15] <Crippy-Boy> meatface, Not really
[02:15] <ShackJack> meatface - a difference in what way?
[02:15] <grothesk> Get yourself a newer card.
[02:15] <lansing> its worked before
[02:15] <hcjc92> what do i need to do to add acpi/apm to my kernel, and how do i do it?
[02:16] <grothesk> lansing: before what?
[02:16] <jvai> yesterday, i was helping this dev out in upper nw dc.. & came across a shipment of breezy disks, i took a few, & a windows oem preinstallation kit cd, i tried the breezy live cd this morning, it like dapper in some wayz.. i'm on ubuntu 5.04 now
[02:16] <blind> I need a program. I want to split an avi file, and get all the individual frames, edit them in GIMP, and put them back together as an AVI.
[02:16] <meatface> I have had this sound issue that freezes X after the login promt and my machine I have discovered is 686 with a386 install, I am wondering if that could be the issue?
[02:16] <lansing> before i installed ubuntu
[02:16] <CaptainMorgan> anyone familar with xchat? where is the favorites list located?
[02:16] <grothesk> lansing: That was on windows?
[02:16] <ShackJack> meatface - prolly not, but it couldn't hurt to install the 686 linux image
[02:17] <lansing> cus i was playin dvds on my pc alot and i hadno prbs till now
[02:17] <ShackJack> faster anyway...
[02:17] <meatface> ShackJack, can it be done as an upgrade so that I do not lose everthing, such as my settings etc...
[02:17] <grothesk> So then you had accelerated drivers installed in windows, lansing
[02:17] <BlueEagle> captainmorgan: I think it's located somwhere between http://xchat.org/docs/ and http://xchat.org/faq/
[02:18] <ShackJack> meatface - yes, of course... can you get to synaptic?
[02:18] <lansing> well i had xp so probly
[02:18] <meatface> ShackJack, absolutely!
[02:18] <grothesk> lansing: Have a look into your xorg.conf.
[02:19] <ShackJack> meatface - get linux-image-686
[02:19] <grothesk> What driver is mentioned there, lansing?
[02:19] <ShackJack> sudo apt-get linux-image-686
[02:19] <BlueEagle> !linux-686
[02:19] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:19] <meatface> ShackJack, I will give that  a go. Thanks for the advice! I will let you know how it pan's out.
[02:19] <Antrixx> im not happy... linking errors suck!
[02:20] <CaptainMorgan> thanks BlueEagle, but you're wrong
[02:20] <ShackJack> I fear I will remain without a GRUB image forever...
[02:20] <BlueEagle> meatface: linux-686 will install linux-image-686 and linux-modules-686 and linux-restricted-686 if I remember correctly.
[02:20] <lansing> that comand dont exsist
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> Is there an IRC channel for NetworkManager?
[02:20] <ShackJack> BlueEagle - that's what he wan'ts though right?
[02:21] <grothesk> lansing: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[02:21] <BlueEagle> shackjack: yes, but linux-image-686 doesn't depend on the modules iirc.
[02:21] <ShackJack> BlueEagle - oops, you're right - I got those confused...
[02:21] <BlueEagle> :)
[02:21] <BlueEagle> shackjack: Windows got your MBR?
[02:21] <ShackJack> No... I just can't get a GRUB image to load for some reson
[02:22] <BlueEagle> shackjack: as a splash image?
[02:22] <BlueEagle> +in
[02:22] <ShackJack> BlueEagle - yep
[02:22] <Antrixx> im sorry if you hate this question, but is there an esimate for when edgy is released?
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> Antrixx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:22] <jtf0518> I heard Oct 28th
[02:22] <ShackJack> BlueEagle - image is there xpm.gx under /boot/grub/images... entry is in menu.1st splashimage hd(0,4)/boot/grub/images/digitalangel.xpm.gz
[02:22] <BlueEagle> shackjack: Hmm.. I remember that not being so hard. Mind telling me what you've done in your attempt?
[02:23] <Antrixx> thank you :)
[02:23] <BlueEagle> shackjack: and you have not got a separate boot partition?
[02:23] <Fredz> Hi! I'm new to Linux and I would need some help getting my computer to connect to internet wirelessly
[02:23] <ShackJack> splashimage hd(0,4)/boot/grub/images/digitalangel.xpm.gz - added that to menu.1st... got some xpm.gz files and stuck 'em in there - that's it..
[02:23] <rebelfallen> Anyone  know of a good text editor that highlights php syntax?
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> !wifi > Fredz
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> rebelfallen: Doesn't gedit do php now?
[02:23] <ShackJack> BlueEagle - I don't think so, just one for root and home and one for windows
[02:23] <blind> rebelfallen: try bluefish
[02:23] <BlueEagle> rebelfallen: emacs, vi, joe, bluefish, gedit, quanta
[02:24] <Fredz> thanks I'll try it
[02:24] <eegore> I just installed xserver-xgl is reconfiguration needed to get it to run?
[02:24] <rebelfallen> OH SNAP
[02:24] <rebelfallen> it does too tonyyarusso
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> rebelfallen: Yeah, View > Hilight mode
[02:24] <cd32fan> how can i change the max screen refresh rate settings?
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> :)
[02:24] <lansing> it says no such file or directory
[02:24] <BlueEagle> rebelfallen: (that's from least to most prefered according to my personal (subjective and I am not looking for a flamewar) opinion)
[02:24] <rebelfallen> That... okay I hate to admit it but that got me sexually excited
[02:24] <lansing> brb
[02:25] <grothesk> lansing: Than you mistiped it.
[02:25] <rebelfallen> Scifi: 9pm PST, battlestar galactica.
[02:25] <rebelfallen> No nerd should miss it.
[02:25] <CaptainMorgan> no one's familar with xchat?
[02:25] <meatface> ShackJack, I am done the update now i need a reboot. I will try enabling sound again and report on whether or not it affected my issue.
[02:25] <BlueEagle> shackjack: let me do a quick read-up on grub splash images...
[02:26] <ShackJack> BlueEagle - O.K. ps I am using Edgy and o,4 is definately my boot
[02:26] <grothesk> Wait... You were on Breezy? Mayby breezy used XFree86 in those days...
[02:26] <Antrixx> Who here has compiled Papyrus (C++, similar to gnome-canvas). I could use a hand
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> CaptainMorgan: I used to use it, so if it's a simple question I might have a chance.  If not, I know Seveas uses it a lot, but isn't on right now.
[02:26] <Fredz> but I need to get the router wep key from my comp to set it up
[02:27] <grothesk> lansing: Do yourself a favour and get a) a newer card b) a newer distribution.
[02:27] <ShackJack> ?meatface - did you do linux-686
[02:27] <ShackJack> meatface - did you do linux-686
[02:27] <hyperpenguin> Hi there! I'm trying an Ubuntu install on a machine which has a PCMCIA wireless lan card. The liveCD runs it fine, but the installed one doesn't. I'm thinking that the installer deleted a package (pcmcia-cs?) needed for it. Any advice?
[02:27] <ShackJack> meatface - instead of linux-image-686
[02:28] <sid> I'm in edgy, are there any good gui front ends for converting crap formats like wma/asf/ram/mov audios to mp3? mplayer plays these formats great, and dumps them to wav very nicely. "mplayer -ao pcm -vo null file.wma", but I don't want my gf to have to do command line. Are there any gui front-ends for converting crap non-free formats, to crap patent-infested semi-free formats?
[02:28] <holycow> who wrote the menu editor in here?
[02:28] <tonyyarusso> What would someone recommend for the following: We have a modem-wireless router-secondary wireless router setup in our house, and I'd like to monitor the traffic through each router per computer/user.
[02:28] <holycow> was it Amaranth ?
[02:28] <CaptainMorgan> tonyyarusso, just looking for the favorites option.. so I don't have to type in 20 channels at startup.. also, is there a startup option to start xchat when system starts?
[02:28] <bsdlogical> hello everyone. I have a computer where someone tried to install Ubuntu 6.06 alongside their Windows installation. I'm not sure what happened, but the installer's partitioner overwrote the NTFS partition with an ext2fs partition. Is there any possible way to recover the NTFS data? I would greatly appreciate any help!
[02:28] <blind> sid, why gui? i have a great script I'll share if you want it.
[02:28] <cwh1947> lets start with how to register a nick in irc?
[02:28] <CaptainMorgan> tonyyarusso, BlueEagle , surprisingly, xchats FAQ doens't mention favorites...
[02:28] <Amaranth> holycow: yeah, it was me
[02:29] <sid> blind: sure
[02:29] <Fredz> I would need help setting up my wireless card upstairs,I have a router downstairs but I dont know how to get the wep key
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> CaptainMorgan: 1st, Look under Servers (it's a server-specific option), 2nd, in Gnome, under System > Preferences > Startup I think
[02:29] <holycow> oh hey, just wanted to say really great work
[02:29] <Amaranth> holycow: the dapper version is what it is and won't be updated :P
[02:29] <holycow> Amaranth, *nod* i've been using edgy
[02:29] <Amaranth> holycow: oh, i thought you were going to tell me it was broken :P
[02:29] <Amaranth> the version in edgy is _much_ nicer
[02:29] <Amaranth> I've run out of things to do with it
[02:29] <holycow> Amaranth, :) works fine in dapper i haven't broken it at all
[02:29] <sid> blind: www.rafb.net/paste ?
[02:29] <holycow> Amaranth, that thing is pygtk right?
[02:29] <Antrixx> If i upgrade to edgy now what will happen :D
[02:30] <Amaranth> holycow: yeah
[02:30] <CaptainMorgan> that sucked..
[02:30] <holycow> Amaranth, question for ya, do you do any consulting?
[02:30] <ShackJack> Antrixx - you will see God...
[02:30] <CaptainMorgan> neither..
[02:30] <blind> sid: nah, http://blindx.net/wma2mp3  --it's written for WMA, but it's easily edited ;)
[02:30] <Fredz>  I would need help setting up my wireless card upstairs,I have a router downstairs but I dont know how to get the wep key anyone can help?
[02:30] <Amaranth> Antrixx: Well, they're asking for people to try the upgrade now.
[02:30] <ubuntu> is ubuntu uncompatible with my PC???Both liveCD and install CD wont work...The install CD keeps freezing at some point, specially when its about to format ext2 partition. Or it crashes with an error "unable to copy some file to HD". Thelive CD simple crashes with some failure messages during boot.
[02:30] <Crippy-Boy> Antrixx, Maybe nothing, maybe it'll scream and blow up?
[02:30] <BlueEagle> shackjack: #ubuntu+1 might be the better channel then. and if you've got a separate boot partition (ie one that is mounted on /) then you want to remove /boot from the splashimage line or symlink boot to itself. ie  /boot/boot/ is the same as /boot/
[02:30] <Antrixx> :D
[02:30] <Amaranth> holycow: I've done it a couple times before, why?
[02:30] <BlueEagle> shackjack: However it's 2:30 am and I need to get to bed. Sorry I can't help you any further.
[02:31] <sid> thanks blind
[02:31] <ubuntu> the CD is fine because im using it right now. The HD is fine too because I have another distro and it installs just fine
[02:31] <ShackJack> Thanks BlueEagle I'll check that out... I do not have a spearate /boot partition
[02:31] <holycow> Amaranth, i have a need for a stupid little app for a particular user, pygtk would be the fastest way to do this i think, if you are interested i'm willing to pay
[02:31] <blind> sid, no problem. I use it all the time :D
[02:31] <holycow> pm?
[02:31] <Antrixx> Maybe i'll see something really funky!!!
[02:31] <Fredz> anyone can help?
[02:31] <Amaranth> holycow: email the details to alleykat@gmail.com
[02:31] <holycow> Amaranth, k
[02:32] <Antrixx> you guys running on it now ?
[02:32] <BlueEagle> fredz: The wep key will be in the router. Check the router documentation as for how to obtain it.
[02:32] <holycow> writing.  i will try to be succinct, its super easy too
[02:32] <Amaranth> Antrixx: I am
[02:32] <Amaranth> holycow: alright
[02:32] <BlueEagle> fredz: I am guessing you'll need to log in to it using a wired network.
[02:32] <ShackJack> meathead - how did U make out?
[02:32] <Antrixx> I'm trying to compile some stuff for my project, the newer DEV libs in edgy would really help me out
[02:32] <Antrixx> I'm GOING for it!!!
[02:32] <ubuntu> what is happening??
[02:33] <Amaranth> Antrixx: gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[02:33] <BlueEagle> ...and on that note I bid you all a good morning/day/evening/night depending on your location.
[02:33] <ShackJack> BlueEagle - sleep tight!
[02:33] <ShackJack> ubuntu - if installing over windows, did you give'em a good scandisk, defrag, etc...
[02:34] <ShackJack> ubuntu - the disks that is
[02:34] <anon32> I need help with a Dell Photo Printer 720 (yes, I know it's infinitely crappy)
[02:34] <ubuntu> the install CD is unable to install ubuntu because some files are failing to copy to HD. The live CD isnt booting because afterconfiguring everything and starting to load, at some point it simple crashes with some failure messages
[02:35] <kristjin> I can't access a mounted drive in my media folder.  It is an ntfs drive and although I have successfully completed the command "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1" when I go under the file system in ubuntu and try to access the folder, it says "The folder contents could not be displayd.  You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of sdb1."
[02:35] <anon32> gahh, anyone know what driver I need for a Dell Photo Printer 720? (yes, I know it sucks more ass than that one senator)
[02:35] <ShackJack> ubuntu- I refer you to my prior inquiry....
[02:35] <ubuntu> do you know what I think? I think it's my MX440. Because the other linux I have here crashes when its configuring the video drivers. It wont install or boot unless I set 8bits colors
[02:35] <meatface> howdy
[02:35] <ShackJack> meatface  !!!
[02:36] <Antrixx> here we go, cheers guys. maybe i can find some bugs to :D squash them, squash them! wooo
[02:36] <kristjin> What's particularly unusual is that I can cd to the directory in terminal.
[02:36] <kristjin> I just can't access it through ubuntu.
[02:36] <meatface> ShackJack, thanks for the help but unfortunately as predicted it made no difference with my sound issue.
[02:37] <kyle_> Unpacking firefox (from .../firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06_i386.deb) ...
[02:37] <kyle_> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06_i386.deb (--unpack):
[02:37] <kyle_>  error creating symbolic link `./usr/bin/firefox': No such file or directory
[02:37] <kyle_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:37] <kyle_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06_i386.deb
[02:37] <kyle_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:37] <ShackJack> meatface - sorry I figured as much... P.s. did you do linux-686 or linux-image-686?
[02:37] <kristjin> I should note that I can only access the folder when in terminal if I have completed a "sudo -s"
[02:37] <kristjin> If I am not "root" then I'm not allowed access to the folder.
[02:37] <meatface> linux-image-686, why would it make a difference
[02:38] <ShackJack> meatface - linux-686 may have some other dependencie - I'd put it in too (it's sort of a dummy package to make sure dependencie are filled)
[02:38] <ShackJack> meatface - won't help with sound likely - just sayin'..
[02:38] <justin420> hi all. anybody help with telling snort what ports i would like it to watch? i have edited my /etc/snort/snort.conf file; but I believe that did not do the trick.  http://pastebin.com/806183 is my current snort.conf file.
[02:38] <meatface> I will try anything.
[02:38] <kristjin> Earlier, someone had me do a chown -R on all the files and the drive itself, but every single file and such came back with an error saying something was read only.
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> kyle_: for the future, use the pastebin.
[02:39] <ShackJack> kristjin - gotta sudo chown
[02:39] <meatface> ShackJack, do you know anything about sound issues?
[02:39] <ShackJack> meatface - very little unfortunately...
[02:39] <kristjin> I don't have the command that he issued to me.
[02:39] <kristjin> I have no idea what it was.
[02:39] <kristjin> Someone else chastised him for telling me to do it.
[02:40] <kristjin> It was a bit nerve wracking to watch.
[02:40] <ShackJack> kristjin something like sudo chown -R XXX /directory
[02:40] <kristjin> In one window, the terminal, and all these files whizzing by, no idea what's happening to hem.
[02:40] <fourat> trying to configure GRUB on usb stick based distribution install, am blocked were i should add a root, doing "root (hd1, 0)" will return "Error 11: Unrecognized device string", the question will be: how to list my devices in grub console ?
[02:40] <meatface> ShackJack, thanks anyway. I appreciate the response just the same. It is very difficult sometimes to find someone that will at  the very least respond.
[02:40] <kristjin> In the irc window, these two guys arguing about whether or not this is going to destroy the data.
[02:40] <kristjin> At 1 in the morning.
[02:40] <kristjin> Fun.
[02:40] <Antrixx> hah
[02:41] <kristjin> And me, with 55 thousand songs on the line.
[02:41] <Antrixx> ctrl+c :o
[02:41] <ShackJack> meatface - check under sound prefs and try changing settings from ALSA (or autodetect) to the others see if that helps it(?)
[02:41] <ShackJack> meatface - may have to restart X )ctrl-alt-backspace)
[02:42] <kristjin> So can anyone help me with this?
[02:42] <kristjin> I have tried everything.
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> kristjin: Okay, just finished scrolling up through those, and yes.
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> !ntfs
[02:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:42] <meatface> ShackJack, I have to be able to login with sound enabled to changes preferences, do I not?
[02:42] <ShackJack> meatface - no - don't think so... just go to Prefs->Sound under Gnome
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> kristjin: I think that link has the instructions for mounting it with the correct permissions; you'll just have to add some options to the mount command and/or fstab file.
[02:43] <kristjin> fstab has not been addressed yet.
[02:43] <kristjin> Which link?
[02:43] <Jbirk> Hi
[02:43] <Jbirk> Curious
[02:43] <Jbirk> Is there anyway to image Ubuntu to about 40 computers
[02:43] <Jbirk> and configure it via policies?
[02:43] <meatface> ShackJack, it does not even show a sound card in the preferences if I do not have sound priveleges enable for the user account
[02:44] <Jbirk> Basically, I would like to setup Ubuntu at work, but I cannot let user's make changes to any of the core files
[02:44] <ShackJack> meatface - you don't have prefernces->sound in your main menu?!
[02:44] <Jbirk> I.e. I cannot let a user configure the X Server
[02:44] <Amaranth> Jbirk: No problem, just don't allow them to use sudo
[02:44] <fourat> trying to configure GRUB on usb stick based distribution install, am blocked were i should add a root, doing "root (hd1, 0)" will return "Error 11: Unrecognized device string", the question will be: how to list my devices in grub console ?
[02:44] <ubuntu> uh...
[02:44] <wastrel> i like wiki
[02:44] <Jbirk> can I let user's install stuff?
[02:45] <Jbirk> but not give them sudo
[02:45] <Jbirk> ?
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> kristjin: The one ubotu said in response to !ntfs
[02:45] <Amaranth> Jbirk: Not without sudo access
[02:45] <meatface> ShackJack, Yes I do. But the soundcard does not show up in there when sound is disabled for the user account
[02:45] <ubuntu> does ubuntu come with cd recording prog?? Im using the live CD and im not seeing any in the applications menu
[02:45] <anon32> ubuntu, places -> CD Creator
[02:45] <ShackJack> Under the devices tab?
[02:46] <ShackJack> meatface - under the devices tab?
[02:46] <Amaranth> ubuntu: Applications->Sound & Video->Sepentine for Audio CDs, Places->CD/DVD Creator for Data CDs and DVDs, devede in universe for Video DVDs
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> Jbirk: It's possible to set up sudo for certain commands only, but it's a little bit confusing imo.  Could google it if you want.
[02:46] <Amaranth> Wait, devede is only in edgy.
[02:46] <holycow> Amaranth, sent
[02:46] <meatface> ShackJack, there is no devices tab.
[02:46] <Amaranth> So there is nothing without using the command line for video DVDs in dapper
[02:46] <ubuntu> hmmm
[02:46] <Jbirk> I don't want to give out a sudo password though
[02:46] <ubuntu> no CD DVD creator
[02:46] <ShackJack> meatface - then we're not talking about same menu... Preferences->Sound->Device Tab
[02:47] <anon32> Amaranth, hell, if you install, there's also K3b and Nero Linux
[02:47] <ShackJack> meatface - I know it's in Dapper...
[02:47] <anon32> that was for ubuntu*
[02:47] <Jbirk> CAn I authenticate users against Active Directory?
[02:47] <anon32> Jbirk, sudo uses the user's password
[02:47] <Amaranth> anon32: But k3b can't do video dvds either
[02:47] <StellarPrince> I have router, how can I see my public IP??
[02:48] <Amaranth> holycow: This app will help me too. :)
[02:48] <anon32> Amaranth, one of it's suggested libs enables that
[02:48] <ArrenLex> StellarPrince: http://whatismyip.com/ =P
[02:48] <mikefoo> ok so I have a mkfs running and its been running a lot longer then normal, how can I kill it? kill -9 pid, isn't killing it
[02:48] <StellarPrince> lol
[02:48] <Jbirk> I know
[02:48] <Jbirk> sudo uses root's password
[02:48] <Jbirk> but I don't want to give out root's password
[02:48] <shaslap> is it possible to switch my install from kubuntu to ubuntu without reinstalling?
[02:48] <Antrixx> I bought a USB DVB-T adapter today... I set it up and configured everything on dapper.. only to find out the freeview signal in my area is *(#@%%. Felt like such a tit!
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> Jbirk: What do you mean give out a sudo password?
[02:48] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: sudo does not use root's password.
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> Jbirk: sudo uses the users'
[02:48] <Jbirk> hugh?
[02:48] <holycow> Amaranth, i think its a generally usefull idea i had a side thought that maybe it could be expanded into a 'helper' app.  something that can gain features for troubleshooting regular issues for noobs
[02:48] <Jbirk> sudo always seems to require root's password
[02:48] <holycow> Amaranth, thoughts on your availability?
[02:48] <Jbirk> It does root type stuff
[02:48] <meatface> ShackJack, yes we are talking about the same menu. I will try rebooting with sound enabled to see if the tab shows up. But the problem is I have to boot like 15 times to get it to work.
[02:49] <wastrel> sudo requires the user password - not root
[02:49] <Jbirk> okay
[02:49] <ArrenLex> shaslap: yes. aptp-get install ubuntu-desktop and then remove all these packages: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[02:49] <Jbirk> So, if a user can sudo, then he or she can do anything?
[02:49] <Jbirk> i.e. sudo -i to get #
[02:49] <shaslap> thanks arrenlex
[02:49] <ShackJack> meatface - O.K. sorry :( -- wondering if running in failsafe mode would help  /
[02:49] <ArrenLex> JBirk: yes. That's why you restrict sudoers' rights with the visudo command.
[02:49] <relain> hi all
[02:49] <wastrel> Jbirk:  it depends how the sudoers file is set up, you can configure it so they can do one command, or anything.  man sudoers
[02:49] <dholbach> hi
[02:49] <Amaranth> holycow: ->PM
[02:49] <holycow> oh!
[02:49] <holycow> heh
[02:49] <Jbirk> Can I not give sudo special rights?
[02:50] <meatface> ShackJack, when I run in recovery mode I can login with sound, so maybe I will try that.
[02:50] <relain> just got a Dell D420 and i can't get it to display in the right resolution
[02:50] <ShackJack> meatface - cool beans..
[02:50] <kmu> Jbirk, I think it's the first user in the system gets sudo. Adduser doens't put the new person in sudoers
[02:50] <relain> can anyone help? i tried using the bios hack but it doesn't seem to quite work
[02:50] <ubuntu> Im trying to install ubuntu on another PC, but after 60 or 70% a file (random one, seems that is not the same each time) is unable to be copied to the HD and the install fails
[02:50] <ArrenLex> relain: have you reconfigured xorg to give you the resolution you want?
[02:51] <ShackJack> meatface - don't forget linux-686
[02:51] <relain> ->ubuntu i had that problem once, i had a bad cd
[02:51] <dholbach> hi
[02:51] <kmu> ubuntu, i've had that happen when trying to install on a scsi system
[02:51] <ubuntu> on my god...
[02:51] <ArrenLex> ubuntu: do you have enough space?
[02:51] <relain> ->ArrenLex: yeah i thought i had xorg reconfigured, it actually thinks it should be going at  the right res
[02:51] <relain> it's just not
[02:51] <LoRez> Warning: `dholbach' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[02:51] <relain> the only res that's set is for 1280 x 880 which is what i want
[02:52] <ubuntu> then I got 4 Bad copies of ubuntu!!!
[02:52] <relain> or, am i supposed to set up X to use the res that i overwrote with the 915resolution thing?
[02:52] <ShackJack> ubuntu - ore one bad HD ;)
[02:52] <ubuntu> but hmm.... Im using one of the Live CDs now, it worked in this PC but in the other PC it just fails at some point of the booting process
[02:52] <anon32> ubuntu, :-PPP
[02:52] <Antrixx> updating to edgy now... anything specific I should know? (appart from the fact things may be broken)
[02:52] <ubuntu> I have 40GB of free partition space
[02:52] <[Yatta] > what is a decent ipod alternative???
[02:52] <anon32> what's the success rate of alien?
[02:53] <ubuntu> hihihihihi, ok
[02:53] <ShackJack> dholbach -- ooooo... you gonna get kicked...
[02:53] <ubuntu> ipod alternative? I think Creative is the best option
[02:53] <[Yatta] > in linux ???
[02:54] <ShackJack> ipod alternative - Sansa e200's rule!!!
[02:54] <[Yatta] > soorry... i should have said itunes
[02:54] <ShackJack> Yatta - take a look at Sansa e260.. works great with Linux
[02:54] <relain> its very strange, i've messed around with my xorg.conf and put in a whole bunch of new resolutions (below the max) that should work and they don't show up
[02:54] <ShackJack> Yatta - Amarok - et al...
[02:54] <relain> my ipod worked ok with rhythmbox
[02:54] <[Yatta] > what about rythmbox ??
[02:54] <Blippe> ubuntu iriver got the best ipod alternativ, and it functions with rockbox (if neo and archos is out of the question)
[02:54] <ArrenLex> anon32: alien doesn't have a "success rate". It's not guesswork. Alien will take all your files from your rpm package and put them in a debian package. Problems happen when a) debian systems put files in different places than redhat systems, and b) your rpm has pre\post-install scripts, which alien will not keep by default for safety reasons (you can make it do so with a command switch)
[02:55] <Antrixx> I quite like Banshee. Not 100% sure if it can sync with iPod. But probably. Rhythmbox definately does, but Banshee seems better imo.
[02:55] <relain> also rythmbox is the stablest one!
[02:55] <relain> that or xmms, everything else crashes like hell, but it might be because i'm on amd64 kernel
[02:55] <ShackJack> Yatta - haven't used that, but you can use in MTP or mass-storage mode for transferring songs...
[02:55] <ArrenLex> Can someone please kick dholbach already?!
[02:55] <anon32> iTunes and iTMS are evil....
[02:55] <Blippe> listen is probably the best rhythmbox alternative
[02:55] <ShackJack> Yatta - oops sorry I'm still on iPod, not iTunes...
[02:55] <anon32> ArrenLex, you mean kickban, we've warned him already
[02:56] <ShackJack> iTunes is the devil..
[02:56] <ubuntu> can a bad partition size or wrong file system screw ubuntu installation process??causing some files to abort the whole process?
[02:56] <[Yatta] > ShackJack, hhehehehe that cool
[02:56] <tonyyarusso> Looks like dholbach's nick is being hijacked.
[02:56] <ShackJack> Yatta - WMP11 is actually really cool - except you have to use Windows
[02:56] <relain> no one else have any ideas about xorg / dell laptop config? i'm using the edgy beta
[02:56] <anon32> ubuntu, yes, but not 4 times in a row in the exact same way
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ill check
[02:56] <[Yatta] > my other alternatice was to setup itunes on my XP virtual machine and use it that way....
[02:57] <ShackJack> relain - you got updated drivers (ATI/Nvidia/Intel)
[02:57] <ubuntu> ill try to install a cd recording...if it works, Ill download another distro or ubuntu itself
[02:57] <relain> it's an intel onboard graphics thing
[02:57] <relain> is there a apt package for them?
[02:57] <relain> i didn't try that yet actually
[02:57] <anon32> ShackJack, WINE...
[02:57] <ShackJack> Yatta - you use for subscriptions or just managing music you already have
[02:57] <[Yatta] > manage...
[02:57] <Antrixx> any of you got this Last.FM radio client to work properly? Last time i tried (compiled from source) there was no sound at all.
[02:57] <gilianima> why links in xchat opens using Lynx instead of Firefox ? (Firefox is set as my default browser in ubuntu)
[02:58] <ShackJack> anon32 - yeah, I know about WINE, just wanted to keep it "pure" on the LINUX side :)
[02:58] <wastrel> gilianima:  xchat has its own browser preferences.
[02:58] <Blippe> Antrixx, if you give up, the amaroK last.fm-radio support is pretty good
[02:58] <Vegeta^> I have installed g++-.4.0, but I can't seem to find it, where will it be located?
[02:58] <ShackJack> Yatta - seen amarok?
[02:58] <anon32> gilianima, open up your X-Chat config, it might point to lynx there...
[02:58] <wastrel> gilianima:  settings > advanced > url handlers
[02:58] <lansing> how doi fix my graphics card
[02:59] <anon32> ShackJack, meh... what's so great about WMP11? it still doesn't play Vorbis, FLAC, or MPEG-4
[02:59] <ArrenLex> Vegeta: to see what files a package installed, enter the command "dpkg -L <package>"
[02:59] <[Yatta] > never really liked Amarok...
[02:59] <anon32> !ops
[02:59] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[02:59] <Antrixx> AmaroK is sweet! But it would be the only KDE app i need, and the whole set of qt libs is a bit of a bummer.
[02:59] <ShackJack> anon32 - you can get plugins for that stuff...
[02:59] <Blippe> [Yatta] , try listen
[02:59] <wastrel> xchat isn't really user friendly heh
[02:59] <mini_g> i need help getting out of a situation that i've ran into with edgy...
[02:59] <ubuntu> the ubuntu CDs I have are protected by a hard paper packet, there are some thin scratches on them
[02:59] <ShackJack> anon32 - it's nice on the organizational end and integrations with subscriptions services and syncing with DAP
[02:59] <gilianima> wastrel: what else do you suggest?
[02:59] <jUggERNAUt1980> hey all, i just picked up a belkin wireless g plus card for my other box. but i need help with the install.
[03:00] <ArrenLex> mini_g: #ubuntu+1 can help you with edgy
[03:00] <jUggERNAUt1980> the other system doesn't have access to the internet at all.
[03:00] <lansing> ive got a trident microsystems 3d 9750
[03:00] <anon32> ShackJack, true enough... but that still doesn't answer what's so great about it
[03:00] <jUggERNAUt1980> can somebody point me to a walkthrough or how to that will help me install this new card?
[03:00] <Antrixx> i downloaded this open source client called last-exit or something, but that had no sound either *shakes head in dispair*
[03:00] <mini_g> ArrenLex: did, but aren't answering
[03:00] <ShackJack> Yatta - try newest amaok - 1.4
[03:00] <Antrixx> no other apps have audio related issues
[03:00] <[Yatta] > Blippe, U have a URL forlisten?
[03:00] <ubuntu> eeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkk
[03:01] <wastrel> gilianima: i guess you could edit ~/.xchat2/urlhandlers.conf  manually...
[03:01] <ShackJack> anon32 - just what I said above, really... plus quick searching, quick and fast, nice interface...
[03:01] <ubuntu> 1h 20 to install k3b????????
[03:01] <[Yatta] > ShackJack, I really dont want to install andy KDE libs on my system.....
[03:01] <Jarn> I am trying to install Dapper, but when I select "Start or Install" it freezes at "Uncompressing the Linux Kernel"
[03:01] <Antrixx> QT deps =)
[03:01] <ubuntu> downloading at bitesper second speed!!
[03:01] <ShackJack> anon32 - big improvement over WMP10, anyway
[03:01] <eegore> does anyone else have an alternate source for compiz-plugins
[03:01] <anon32> ShackJack, meh.... orgnizing is what a file manager is for
[03:01] <mini_g> i did multiple startings of the apt updater and canceled them in mid-download and in the meantime, did some hibernations
[03:01] <ShackJack> Yatta - I hear ya - but it really don't hurt nothin'
[03:01] <ArrenLex> ubuntu: sure, if your internet consists of someone with a big rubber band slingshotting you black or white notecards for 1 or 0.
[03:01] <mini_g> and now xserver isn't wanting to start w/one of the user id's unable to logon in bash
[03:01] <gilianima> wastrel: I mean, what else than xchat... you said xchat is not very user-friendly
[03:02] <ShackJack> anon32 - umm... not organizing like this... don't knock it till you've (really) tried it...
[03:02] <Kazukisan> newest wine version i just compiled on ubuntu edgy, i did a apt-get build-dep wine first then i compiled the wine and then this -> wine in cosole = Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:02] <wastrel> gilianima:  xchat is the best for gnome, there's a kde one i don't know the name...
[03:02] <anon32> ShackJack, meh
[03:02] <anon32> three words: WGA and DRM
[03:03] <ArrenLex> Kazukisan: what would happen if you compiled from official sources? www.winehq.com
[03:03] <ShackJack> anon32- again, you'd have to try it... but meh, to you too..  ;)
[03:03] <anon32> :-\
[03:03] <gilianima> wastrel: which one do you use ?
[03:03] <wastrel> xchat
[03:03] <anon32> the only thing I have is the entire Naruto anime series... and video doesn't need to be managed the way music is
[03:03] <Kazukisan> ArrenLex: thats where i compiled from
[03:04] <ShackJack> anon32 - has great use of album art, "stacks", etc...
[03:04] <anon32> ShackJack, you pirate
[03:04] <ShackJack> anon32 - nope - all legal!
[03:05] <ShackJack> anon32 - though I did get some backups of old albums I'm no longer in possesion of - lost, destroyed, "borrowed:, etc..
[03:05] <anon32> !
[03:05] <shwag> I did an apt-get on phpmyadmin before I installed apache or php5, and now things are all screwed up.
[03:05] <[Yatta] > anon32, Naruto Anime still on fillers right?
[03:05] <ShackJack> anon32  - mostly burned from collection...
[03:05] <Lam_> [Yatta] : yes
[03:05] <anon32> [Yatta] , yes
[03:06] <clearzen> Is the file to blacklist modules at boot /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?
[03:06] <anon32> there was an entire 90 minutes of it last week
[03:06] <shwag> if I go to  http://localhost/phpmyadmin/index.php   it loads just fine, but http://localhost/phpmyadmin tries to download an empty phtml file.
[03:06] <ShackJack> Ah, well... signing off all...
[03:06] <[Yatta] > i eased off of Narutor from liek ep 127 or so i think...
[03:07] <anon32> how do I change the save directory for cURL?
[03:07] <Antrixx> cu ShackJack, i'll let you know if edgy makes me see god (or similar)
[03:07] <Lam_> clearzen: yes
[03:07] <anon32> [Yatta] , the filler ends at 135....
[03:07] <ShackJack> Antrixx :)
[03:07] <anon32> [Yatta] , starts*
[03:07] <[Yatta] > Is Naruto's fillers were as good as Bleach''s filler it wouldn't be so bad
[03:07] <anon32> so you basically cut out the best 8 episodes if you stopped at 127
[03:07] <Lam_> [Yatta] : if the first word was supposed to be an "if", i agree
[03:07] <ArrenLex> How did I wind up in #ubuntu-anime?
[03:08] <ekidu> what to do so that "monospace" font use bit vera stream mono font ?
[03:08] <anon32> ArrenLex, lol :-P
[03:08] <Antrixx> watching an episode of peep show is allright while downlading edgy right? its only d/l after all
[03:08] <Zarephath> Does anyone know of commercial software that will let me sync my dell axim with Mobile 5 OS to Ubuntu? No support currently available in ubuntu right now to work
[03:08] <clearzen> Lam_: Lets say I have a wireless card inserted at boot and I have blacklisted the modules for it. Will they still load?
[03:08] <axa-axa> Hi, I'm using Dapper Drake 6.06, can someone please tell me when is expected for next version to arrive?
[03:08] <ArrenLex> Zarephath: what is Dell Axim?
[03:08] <Lam_> clearzen: if you blacklisted the drivers that were included in your modules, they won't load and your wireless device won't either unless you have a substitute, like ndiswrapper
[03:08] <Zarephath> PocketPC
[03:09] <[Yatta] > Zarephath, my cellphone is Mobile 5 also.... but i haven't really looked into any syncing tools for it as yet
[03:09] <Antrixx> errr authors
[03:09] <anon32> Zarephath, Dell has a linux forum - apparently, enough people switch for it to matter
[03:09] <ArrenLex> Zrephath: yes, I know that; you said it has Windows Mobile 5. I meant, PDA or smartphone?
[03:09] <ubuntu> hmmm
[03:09] <clearzen> Lam_: cool, that's what I needed to know
[03:09] <ubuntu> i cant eject the live cd
[03:09] <ubuntu> it gives me an error
[03:09] <[Yatta] > mine is Smartphone...... Tmobile-MDA
[03:09] <Zarephath> [Yatta]  good luck...sync ce is supposed to work over the installed multisync for dapper
[03:10] <axa-axa> When is expected to Edgy Eft arrive (as stable) ?
[03:10] <Lam_> !schedule > axa-axa
[03:10] <Blippe> [Yatta] , http://listengnome.free.fr/
[03:10] <Antrixx> axa-axa: 26th october i believe
[03:10] <[Yatta] > Blippe, thnx
[03:10] <axa-axa> thanks
[03:10] <randomi> aka-aka: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule?highlight=%28release%29%7C%28edgy%29
[03:11] <ubuntu> unable to eject DVD,  invalid argument ??
[03:11] <Antrixx> is that listen any good ?
[03:11] <plusminus> are xorg packages still broken if eft or is it safr to upgrade
[03:11] <Lam_> anyone that does a lot with mplayer?  i can't seem to get mine to lock aspect ratio via gmplayer
[03:11] <Lam_> full screen sheers the video
[03:11] <plusminus> s/if/in/ s/safr/safe/ :S
[03:12] <ubuntu> unable to eject DVD,  invalid argument ??
[03:13] <Lam_> lol
[03:13] <anon32> LOL - FIRMWARE UPGRADE, geez
[03:13] <anon32> ubuntu, :-P
[03:13] <anon32> ubuntu, come on, you know that linux is entirely command line - use mount
[03:13] <anon32> or in this case umount
[03:14] <anon32> pathetic, why don't they upgrade their f-ing firmware... and in the meantime, why doesn't FreeNode just block the text?
[03:14] <ubuntu> am I root?because the live cd didnt ask for any user creation
[03:14] <SAM_theman> well lets get busy working on ubutnu skins
[03:14] <wastrel> ubuntu:  type whoami at the terminal
[03:15] <anon32> ubuntu, no, but you have auto-sudo
[03:15] <anon32> i.e. - sudo doesn't ask for password
[03:16] <ubuntu> what is this?
[03:16] <Flannel> !ops
[03:16] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:16] <Hobbsee> sigh.
[03:16] <anon32> ubuntu, DCC router exploit
[03:16] <Zarephath> or perhaps sudo -i ?
[03:16] <Hobbsee> nalioth: ping?
[03:16] <rob> I'm on it too :)
[03:16] <Flannel> oh, sorry.  rob, didn't see you
[03:17] <rob> Flannel: your right :)
[03:17] <Hobbsee> rob: you're handling it?
[03:17] <anon32> what we need is to assign a chankey to prevent this kind of nonsense
[03:17] <Jarn> When I try to start Dapper from the disk, it freezes while trying to boot the kernel. I think this may be my problem (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/38263). Is there any way to avoid this? The only solution listed there is to use edgy, which is not a thing I want to do, I think.
[03:17] <Hobbsee> anon32: it wouldnt help
[03:17] <ubuntu> eh? ubuntu "hides" some linux stuff, making it feel more like windows...
[03:18] <anon32> Hobbsee, a key would prevent them from joining, wouldn't it?
[03:18] <ubuntu> now I cant find where is the cdrom to un mount
[03:18] <Hobbsee> anon32: until they found out what it was.
[03:18] <anon32> ubuntu, again, linux is entirely command line, hit ctrl+alt+f1 and get all your uberoptions
[03:18] <anon32> Hobbsee, have it change every 5 minutes
[03:19] <Hobbsee> anon32: then the users couldnt find it either
[03:19] <ubuntu> uh...
[03:19] <ubuntu> mount /cdrom eject "only root can do that"
[03:19] <anon32> Hobbsee, meh... the best solution is to k-line them
[03:19] <anon32> ubuntu, sudo
[03:19] <Antrixx> use sudo..
[03:19] <Hobbsee> anon32: anonymous proxies.  no point.
[03:20] <anon32> or even su
[03:20] <Zarephath> ubuntu: sudo umount /cdrom
[03:20] <anon32> Hobbsee, hmm..........
[03:20] <Zarephath> sudo eject cdrom
[03:20] <anon32> HydraIRC, lol.....
[03:20] <lansing> hello ne one
[03:20] <Zarephath> anon32: Whos running that?
[03:20] <anon32> lansing, hello
[03:21] <anon32> Zarephath, Crippy-Boy who just left
[03:21] <Zarephath> Ahhh
[03:21] <lansing> culd u tell me how to get an graphic accel
[03:21] <anon32> !u
[03:21] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[03:21] <Antrixx> anyone use beryl ?
[03:22] <anon32> Antrixx, nope... what's beryl?
[03:22] <wastrel> oh god bless the person who put that factoid in there
[03:22] <Zarephath> lansing: Depends on your video chipset...ubuntu wiki has information
[03:22] <anon32> whoa, I have curl running and my lag isn't +60000000
[03:22] <anon32> !graphics
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <Antrixx> It's like a flashy window manager or something :D
[03:22] <anon32> !ati
[03:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <sproingie> hey someone took my "u" factoid :)
[03:23] <lansing> i have a trident microsystems 3d 9750
[03:23] <sproingie> god bless me
[03:23] <SAM_theman> Holy Crap guys I wish this was my ubutnu
[03:23] <anon32> Antrixx, well, I don't have a pwnz0rs GPU, so the point is lost on me
[03:23] <SAM_theman> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/45170-1.jpg
[03:23] <wastrel> <3 the "u" factoid.
[03:23] <Zarephath> lansing: Your mileage will vary then
[03:23] <Antrixx> anon32: ahh :( I have a pretty beefy graphics card and right now its only in gedit/anjuta. Might give it a whirl
[03:24] <lansing> reallyso what can i do then
[03:24] <anon32> SAM_theman, what's so great? mine looks like that
[03:24] <Antrixx> anon32: if edgy doesnt super-break on me.. heh
[03:24] <anon32> SAM_theman, hell, I just notice the bad compression on it
[03:25] <SAM_theman> lol
[03:25] <boris55> broadcom 4xxx supported natively on edgy eft?
[03:25] <SAM_theman> I making mines better check this hommie out
[03:25] <SAM_theman> javascript:self.close()
[03:25] <Antrixx> I'm getting way to excited about this linux stuff
[03:26] <SAM_theman> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/31128-1.jpg
[03:26] <anon32> SAM_theman, it's just a custom theme and icons - nothing spectacular
[03:26] <Linuturk> i need help configuring my wireless card via the cli
[03:26] <wastrel> it's nice looking anyway
[03:26] <Zarephath> boris55: #ubuntu+1 would be the place to ask
[03:26] <Antrixx> SAM_theman: now thats pretty neat
[03:26] <Linuturk> it works if I run a desktop via the live cd
[03:26] <anon32> SAM_theman, if you want cool, try compiz and xgl
[03:26] <Linuturk> but, I need help getting it up and running on the server here
[03:26] <SAM_theman> hey how can i play music and talk to my friends on TS
[03:26] <boris55> thanks
[03:26] <SAM_theman> I can't use XGL
[03:26] <VonGuard> jesus, stupid authentication BS
[03:27] <VonGuard> anyway, I have a Mac OS X formatted UFS drive
[03:27] <VonGuard> how can i mount it under ubuntu dapper?
[03:27] <SAM_theman> because it mess up my games and my 3d animation tools
[03:27] <Antrixx> i got ati x850xt and I assume i can install fglrx module in edgy.. take it I can install all this XGL-flashy-pants stuff on edgy? :D
[03:27] <wastrel> !ntfs
[03:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:27] <shea> yeah xgl has no place on my desktop either :<
[03:27] <wastrel> VonGuard:  ^^^
[03:27] <shea> most of my work is opengl
[03:27] <anon32> VonGuard, use mount -t hfs /dev/(devicename)
[03:28] <anon32> Antrixx, give it a shot, edgy is in RC anyway
[03:28] <Daverto> My Linksys WMP54GS does not want to connect to the internet, and ndiswrapper says hardware present, help me?
[03:28] <Antrixx> anon32: I'm upgrading as we speak! :D
[03:28] <wastrel> edgy :o
[03:28] <VonGuard> well, it's not hfs it's ufs
[03:28] <Ropechoborra> !webcam
[03:28] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:28] <VonGuard> the mac os disk utility's unix partition
[03:28] <anon32> Antrixx, I'm not - slow internet connection
[03:28] <VonGuard> going to try ubotu
[03:29] <Antrixx> :(
[03:29] <anon32> VonGuard, substitute ufs for hfs then
[03:29] <Daverto> My Linksys WMP54GS does not want to connect to the internet, and ndiswrapper says hardware present, help me?
[03:29] <Antrixx> so XGL... does that mean OpenGL accelerated desktops ?
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> !wifi > Daverto
[03:29] <VonGuard> well, there's this ufstype= statement
[03:29] <VonGuard> i dunno what it should = for mac ufs
[03:29] <boris55> Daveto, did you use iwconfig?
[03:30] <Daverto> yes but i dont understand it
[03:30] <Daverto> one sec
[03:30] <anon32> Antrixx, yes
[03:30] <Antrixx> is the flashy desktop3d stuff already installed on edgy? so i just enable it? or is it an apt-get job
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> Can someone recommend a utility for monitoring router traffic by client machine?
[03:31] <anon32> accelerated and bleeding-edge eye-candy ala Windows Vista
[03:31] <Antrixx> anon32: were are you based?
[03:31] <Antrixx> nice
[03:31] <wastrel> mrtg?
[03:31] <Daverto> it shows my wireless card as eth0 and my config
[03:31] <anon32> Antrixx, apt-get
[03:31] <anon32> Antrixx, sorry?
[03:31] <breakdecks> I am locked out of my computer, how do I free up disk space because deleting files isn't actually freeing disk space...
[03:31] <LjL> !xgl
[03:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:31] <anon32> tonyyarusso, etherape
[03:31] <anon32> now, I can't figure out if that's ether-ape or ethe-rape
[03:31] <Antrixx> thanks =)
[03:32] <breakdecks> it's rape...
[03:32] <LjL> breakdecks: it is, it's just that the free space doesn't show up yet. try a "sudo apt-get clean", might free you some space
[03:32] <tritium> breakdecks, anon32: please stop that childishness
[03:32] <VonGuard> ok, so more information on the UFS: this is a usb disk. i have it plugged in. when i mount, it complains about the mount point not existing. only dvd and cdrom in media
[03:32] <anon32> breakdecks, fpart (devicename)
[03:32] <breakdecks> tried that, still at 0 free spce
[03:32] <VonGuard> sda doesn't enter into it
[03:32] <ClayG> anyone here have a problem getting tor+privoxy working?
[03:32] <ClayG> I followed the (short 3 step) directions
[03:32] <ClayG> but still am getting stuck
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> anon32: I'll try it.
[03:33] <anon32> ClayG, I have a problem with tor... :-(
[03:33] <tritium> ClayG, anon32: please elaborate
[03:33] <breakdecks> when I delete files from the command line, are they deleted, or just copied to a trash folder?
[03:33] <anon32> also, I hear from moznet that the Ubuntu edition of firefox has tons of crappy code - I *do* notice the lack of navigation shortcuts like wp and g
[03:34] <jrib> breakdecks: deleted
[03:34] <anon32> tritium, it fails to start and exits with a non-descript error message
[03:34] <breakdecks> so why do I still have 0 free space after deleting files?
[03:34] <ClayG> tritium, I am going to reinstall and see if I can reproduce the output so i can paste it here or if too long on a pastebin
[03:34] <anon32> breakdecks, fsck, it might be a file system error
[03:34] <ClayG> gimme a second
[03:34] <tritium> anon32: what do the logs say?  What is the error message?
[03:34] <breakdecks> k
[03:34] <tritium> ClayG: reinstall?  That's a bit severe.
[03:35] <ClayG> ClayG, I uninstalled it already, it's kinda the only way
[03:35] <tritium> anon32: please "sudo invoke-rc.d tor restart", and tell me what happens.  Or is it privoxy, or both?
[03:35] <anon32> tritium, I de-installed a while ago
[03:35] <tritium> ClayG: which is giving you trouble?
[03:36] <lansing> how do i get a accel for my video
[03:36] <godtvisken> Anyone know some games for linux worth wasting time on?
[03:36] <centimani> i need a little help with getting dhcp to work when i bootup
[03:36] <ClayG> tritium, I am installing now, and going to edit the privoxy config file, basically follow the steps they give
[03:36] <ClayG> then i will try and give you the error
[03:36] <breakdecks> Do what extent does the phrase "severe filesystem damage" hold true?
[03:36] <ClayG> basically when i tried to goto a page it wouldnt load
[03:36] <Zarephath> cenitmani: What is the problem..should work after install
[03:36] <centimani> every time i bootup i have to issue 'sudo dhclient' to get an address
[03:36] <centimani> ifup -a does not give me an address
[03:36] <ClayG> i dont know the exact text it said, dont remember if you aren't familiar with the screen then ill have to reproduce it
[03:36] <Lam_> if i install something using configure-make-make install, how do i uninstall?
[03:37] <tritium> ClayG: it can be slow, of course.  You've waited?
[03:37] <Zarephath> centimani: Are you running gnome wm?
[03:37] <centimani> i looked in /etc/network/interfaces and eth0 is listed an inet and dhcp
[03:37] <centimani> yes
[03:37] <tritium> Lam_: now you see the value of package management systems
[03:37] <anon32> godtvisken, no... there are no good games for Linux....
[03:37] <ClayG> yeah it "times out" (not really) in less than half a second
[03:37] <Zarephath> What doe the network option show you?
[03:37] <Lam_> tritium: :(
[03:37] <ClayG> but yeah when it's working it is slower than normal
[03:37] <centimani> network?
[03:37] <lansing> could totem be counter acting with vlc to make it glitch
[03:37] <ClayG> which i expect
[03:38] <tritium> ClayG: you should first make sure tor is working, and then configure privoxy through tor only after you know tor works.
[03:38] <ubuntu> i dont belive!
[03:38] <ClayG> ok in that case i just installed tor
[03:38] <ClayG> i invoke it how? sudo /etc/init.d/tor restart
[03:38] <ubuntu> one of the live CDs was fine, now Im using the PC I meant to
[03:38] <ClayG> or just plain tor?
[03:38] <tritium> ClayG: sudo invoke-rc.d tor restart
[03:39] <centimani> in System > Administration > Networking the eth0 is set to dhcp
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> anon32: Will that show all clients attached to the router or just me?
[03:39] <ubuntu> so I got 7 bad CDs, and one good live CD
[03:39] <anon32> tonyyarusso, just you
[03:39] <ClayG> tritium,  http://pastebin.ca/201939
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> anon32: Hmm.  Any for all that you're aware of?  (I'm trying to track household usage)
[03:39] <tritium> ClayG: one moment
[03:40] <anon32> tonyyarusso, there's no real way to use an arbitrary computer to monitor remote traffic, you have to be situated in between your access point and the client
[03:40] <|amicraw|> i'm trying to burn a cd in it;s org content
[03:41] <tonyyarusso> anon32: Perhaps if I can install it on the router?  (I use DD-WRT, so I think I might be able to do that; if not, with another one)
[03:41] <centimani> if i had to guess, it would be that installing vmware messed up my network interfaccs
[03:42] <anon32> tonyyarusso, sure, or if you're not sure, just use your system as a router - firestarter enable connection sharing
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> anon32: Laptop; has to go to class with me, so not a very good machine for a always-on setup, but thanks.
[03:43] <clearzen> ok, so I've blacklisted some modules for my pcmcia card. But I have rebooted and when I type lsmod they still show up. However when I try modprobe -r <module_name> it tells me module not found. Is the module really loaded?
[03:43] <anon32> I have a usb printer - what would the device name be?
[03:43] <ClayG> tritium, this is my /etc/privoxy/config - http://pastebin.ca/201945
[03:43] <dotComrade> hey guys.. i need to set up a dedicated smtp server that is accessable on port 587 and does smtp auth only.. any suggestions?
[03:44] <anon32> dotComrade, suggestions for what?
[03:44] <dotComrade> anon32: for what to use
[03:44] <dotComrade> mta wise
[03:44] <tritium> ClayG: what are you tring to use tor for?
[03:44] <anon32> dotComrade, sorry, no suggestions here
[03:45] <anon32> tritium, I assume to connect to the internet anonymously?
[03:45] <ClayG> web browsing stuff
[03:45] <dotComrade> anon32, no worries
[03:45] <tritium> anon32: yes, but for IRC?
[03:45] <dotComrade> I'm looking at postfix or exim, it's just been a while since I've set anything up
[03:45] <ClayG> tritium, do you see anything in the thing i pasted that needs to be fixed
[03:45] <ClayG> or i can fix
[03:45] <jUggERNAUt1980> http://www.trustpower.co.nz/Content/PowerSavings.aspx
[03:45] <dotComrade> I'm also curious to see if ubuntu is as easy to use server side
[03:46] <anon32> yay, my winprinter works now
[03:46] <jUggERNAUt1980> that will tell you appliance usage and cost, for whoever needed that
[03:47] <tritium> ClayG: no.  You're sure it's not running?
[03:47] <ClayG> tritium,
[03:47] <ClayG> tritium, no but im sure when i open firefox and browse i cannot , while using it
[03:47] <tritium> ClayG: do you have your proxy configured properly in firefox?
[03:48] <ClayG> im looking for the settings, i was using torbutton
[03:48] <ClayG> looking through prefs now
[03:48] <ClayG> to find that setting
[03:48] <anon32> why doesn't the ubuntu firefox have navigation shortcuts (e.g. wp and g from the location bar)?
[03:49] <tritium> anon32: what do you mean by "wp" and "g"?
[03:49] <anon32> did someone intentionally crappify it, or is there some strange reason for that?
[03:49] <jUggERNAUt1980> Is it possible to download ndiswrapper on an XP system, since I can't get my Linux system online?
[03:50] <anon32> tritium, under Windows and I assume in the official sources from mozilla, you can type "g itemname" to look stuff up in google and "wp itemname" to look stuff up in wikipedia
[03:50] <anon32> there's also dict and a couple others
[03:50] <tritium> anon32: oh
[03:50] <edouard_> Hello all! Do we have any certified linux gurus online at this time?
[03:50] <[AvatarX] > how can i set up squid to be routed via privoxy? so i can share a hole on the firewall using the desktop as a squid and tor server for a palm device.
[03:50] <crazdiam> question, i got photoshop running through wine, runs fine except none of the shortcut keys seem to work, anyone know how to let photoshop take over the shortcut keys?
[03:51] <ClayG> tritium, http://pastebin.ca/201955 is the message i was trying to explain to you.  This is what shows on my screen when trying to use the browser with the tor settings (localhost:8118)
[03:51] <edouard_> Because I have a *hard* question :-)
[03:51] <SAM_theman> its saying that i need libc6 but when i install it with apt-get it says its already installed?
[03:51] <anon32> tritium, so... can you tell me why the ubuntu version of firefox is way inferior?
[03:52] <tritium> anon32: first, it's not "way inferior," and no, I can't explain the difference.
[03:52] <jUggERNAUt1980> I really just need to download ndiswrapper somehow on XP, so I can burn it to a disk and get my Linux system online, but is that possible?
[03:52] <edouard_> I've got a *very* old linux binary I wish to run under ubuntu 6.06. Under Red Hat (a couple of years ago) all I had to do was install libc 5 (including libm 5) and version 1 of the dynamic runtime linker.
[03:53] <crazdiam> ndiswrapper should be on your ubuntu disc
[03:53] <anon32> tritium, it *is* way inferior... that is the single reason I used to use firefox over IE
[03:53] <tritium> ClayG: I don't see anything wrong with your config files.  Is that torbutton a firefox extension?
[03:53] <edouard_> I tried this under ubuntu, and the executable just seg faults straight away.
[03:53] <tritium> anon32: that's your opinion.  Please try be to objective, and less troll-like.
[03:53] <jUggERNAUt1980> really sweet
[03:53] <ClayG> tritium, it is, but i've tried without, i've tried with another browser manually
[03:53] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks
[03:53] <crazdiam> yeah pop it in and install it from there
[03:53] <edouard_> I tried running ldd on the binary, and *that* seg faulted.
[03:53] <anon32> edouard_, you can't install glibc in ubuntu, for some reason, ubuntu doesn't like it when you try
[03:53] <[AvatarX] > how can i set up squid to be routed via privoxy? so i can share a hole on the firewall using the desktop as a squid and tor server for a palm device?
[03:53] <tritium> ClayG: often times those tor extensions don't work well the the tor package itself.
[03:54] <edouard_> I installed the old libc5 from the old libs archive...
[03:54] <[AvatarX] > (the palm device would be using wifi.. )
[03:54] <anon32> [AvatarX] , does squid have proxy configuration?
[03:54] <jUggERNAUt1980> cause I have a broadcom wireless card and I don't think It will work unless I have ndiswrapper
[03:54] <[AvatarX] > on a router on the same ip range
[03:54] <anon32> thought I want to ask why you need squid server - the only use I've seen for it is censorship
[03:54] <[AvatarX] > squid is a proxy
[03:54] <ClayG> tritium, I'm finding the solution now.  I'll post it here, should get anon sorted out also
[03:55] <anon32> [AvatarX] , no reason it can't be set to listen to localhost at provoxy port
[03:55] <tritium> ClayG: ok
[03:55] <[AvatarX] > i am being censored where I work... =) u use privoxy to pierce a hole on the firewall...
[03:55] <edouard_> anon32: Why not? Is it a kernel problem?
[03:55] <anon32> edouard_, no, glibc is statically linked, you can't change it
[03:55] <tritium> [AvatarX] : I doubt your employer would be happy about that
[03:56] <[AvatarX] > i want to share my connection with a friend.. so he would point to my squid server... which will be routed through privoxy
[03:56] <anon32> [AvatarX] , yea, when the sysadmins find out that you're sending encrypted traffic, they'll ban you
[03:56] <Lam_> unless the sysadmins are retards
[03:56] <Lam_> admittedly, some are
[03:56] <edouard_> anon32: That's doesn't sound like it relates to my problem. The kernel should load the runtime linker to load my binary - glibc shouldn't get involved at all.
[03:56] <anon32> [AvatarX] , no need for that, just set privoxy to listen to all IPs
[03:56] <Lam_> !privoxy
[03:56] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-5 (dapper), package size 1504 kB, installed size 2852 kB
[03:56] <[AvatarX] > anon32.. cool...
[03:56] <Lam_> neato
[03:56] <anon32> edouard_, I thought you said you wanted to replace glibc
[03:56] <edouard_> anon32: I've installed libc5 already on my machine
[03:57] <[AvatarX] > i will look for tat..
[03:57] <anon32> sorry
[03:57] <anon32> libc is different
[03:57] <Maczimus> hello room
[03:57] <anon32> Maczimus, hello person
[03:57] <CNCEPT> Hello
[03:57] <ricanelite> Does anyone know about MOL???
[03:57] <Antrixx> Mac On Linux ?
[03:57] <ricanelite> Yeah
[03:58] <anon32> ricanelite, one question mark only pleas
[03:58] <hydoskee> hey, I'm having some trouble setting up a vnc server on ubunut
[03:58] <hydoskee> ubuntu, rather
[03:58] <anon32> please*
[03:58] <ricanelite> Oh im sorry
[03:58] <anon32> hydoskee, explain
[03:58] <edouard_> anon32: The problem is, even with the old libc5 and ld-linux1 I get a seg fault as soon as I try to run the binary.
[03:58] <zoidberg> hey guys i've got a problem
[03:58] <edouard_> anon32: ldd seg faults when trying to list the dependancies of the binary.
[03:58] <anon32> edouard_, do the libc's conflict?
[03:58] <Maczimus> quick question. I have an Ubuntu Machine that I would like to connect to through the network via it's hostname but can only connect via it's ip? is there something i must do to make the hostname active?
[03:58] <hydoskee> anon32: well I start a VNC server, and then I try and connect, or use nmap, and port 590x isn't being used
[03:59] <anon32> hydoskee, um... sorry?
[03:59] <edouard_> anon32: I can't see how. They should install side by side as they have different names and versions
[03:59] <anon32> edouard_, just asking
[03:59] <anon32> edouard_, might I ask what you're trying to run?
[03:59] <hydoskee> Maczimus: you need to either set up a DNS server on your network or edit the /etc/hosts file of every other computer to reflect the ipaddress mapping
[04:00] <zoidberg> a friend of mine deleted his xorg.0.log file from the /var/log directry....now his XSERVER wont start coz it says its missing that log fle
[04:00] <hydoskee> anon32 any idea where I could go for vncserver help?
[04:00] <zoidberg> any solutions other than installing ubuntu again?
[04:00] <anon32> hydoskee, #vnc
[04:00] <iCod> as anyone here successfully installed the faster startup script?
[04:00] <Maczimus> i have a router and it is getting dhcp works great but cant connect to it via hostname.
[04:00] <hydoskee> anon32: nobody's there
[04:00] <anon32> hmm..
[04:00] <edouard_> The fraunhofer mp3 encoder from circa 1997. I've encoded all my music with it for the last 8 years and wish to continue to do so.
[04:00] <zoidberg> can anyone help me please
[04:00] <LjL> zoidberg: "sudo touch /var/log/xorg.0.log"? anyway, i don't see why i would do that...
[04:00] <Antrixx> zoidberg, have u tried sudo touch /var/log/xorg.0.log ?
[04:00] <anon32> hydoskee, well, first generic question, do you have the vnc server ports open in your router and iptables?
[04:00] <LjL> s/i/it/
[04:01] <edouard_> anon32: The fraunhofer mp3 encoder from circa 1997. I've encoded all my music with it for the last 8 years and wish to continue to do so.
[04:01] <zoidberg> LjL: what will that do?
[04:01] <anon32> edouard_, LAME *cough*
[04:01] <edouard_> anon32: Why it doesn't want to run it the issue I'm interested in.
[04:01] <LjL> zoidberg: type "man touch" and you'll know
[04:01] <hydoskee> anon32: yes, it's worked before with gentoo
[04:01] <anon32> mm... not sure, I'm not a hacker kind of guy myself
[04:01] <anon32> hydoskee, any error message?
[04:02] <Antrixx> touch will just create the file
[04:02] <hydoskee> just on the client side that port 5902 isn't available
[04:02] <hydoskee> or that there's no VNC server running
[04:02] <tritium> Antrixx: iff it doesn't exist
[04:02] <Antrixx> indeed
[04:02] <edouard_> anon32: Yes, but I don't want to use LAME. I'm happy with the fraunhofer one.
[04:02] <tritium> where iff = if and only if
[04:02] <Antrixx> but he already stated it was deleted, so kept it as simple as possible
[04:02] <tritium> true enough, just clarifying
[04:03] <hydoskee> Maczimus: you really need to set up a home DNS or edit the /etc/hosts file of each machine to reflect the names
[04:03] <Antrixx> yes, i'm aware of iff =)
[04:03] <anon32> hydoskee, is the client firewalled?
[04:03] <hydoskee> nope
[04:03] <tritium> :)
[04:03] <hydoskee> anon32: same network, no blocks
[04:03] <edouard_> anon32: Are there any resources on running old binaries under ubuntu? Like I said, this worked on fedora core, ooo, 2 I think, just fine.
[04:03] <hydoskee> Maczimus: the latter is much easier
[04:03] <anon32> edouard_, dunno...
[04:03] <anon32> !history
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about history - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <wastrel> you want to use an a.out binary?
[04:03] <anon32> !ancient
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ancient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <anon32> !old
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about old - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <edouard_> Yes. I think it's a.out
[04:03] <anon32> hmm... well...
[04:04] <hydoskee> Maczimus: DNS is a mess, so it's not worth it for under 4 machines
[04:04] <Antrixx> right'o... nearly updated to edgy.. < 1 minute. hopefully i'll be back in a bit.
[04:04] <ricanelite> how do i edit this file /etc/mol/molrc.video?
[04:04] <wastrel> need kernel support for a.out
[04:04] <sherirao> uiu
[04:04] <anon32> ricanelite, tried using man?
[04:04] <Maczimus> then how would i set up a static ip?
[04:04] <tritium> edouard_: the fraunhofer actually performs worse than LAME
[04:04] <edouard_> wastrel: Ahh - that makes sense then.
[04:04] <Maczimus> want to opena port to the machine so vnc will work through it
[04:04] <wastrel> prolly need to build a custom kerner
[04:04] <ricanelite> man?
[04:05] <hydoskee> Maczimus: you can bond your mac address to your IP using your router
[04:05] <edouard_> tritium: So people say. Mostly people who've not done some blind tests themselves.
[04:05] <anon32> Maczimus, you set a static IP by either binding your mac address or using a static lease
[04:05] <hydoskee> Maczimus: really, as complicated as this is, DNS would be much worse
[04:05] <anon32> on the clientside, you run network-admin
[04:05] <hydoskee> anon32: beat me to it
[04:05] <edouard_> tritium: I'm happy with it- and that's what really matters.
[04:05] <Maczimus> really? i have a crappy ummm sorry guys (microsoft) router
[04:05] <hydoskee> ewwwww
[04:05] <wastrel> edouard_:  file filename   should tell you what format itis
[04:05] <anon32> hydoskee, don't you mean DHCP? DNS is very necessary
[04:05] <Maczimus> i also have no-ip set up on the ubuntu machine
[04:05] <tritium> edouard_: no, well-educated people.  wavelet compression is much better anywa...
[04:06] <hydoskee> Maczimus: yes it's a basic router function
[04:06] <THX-1138> ricanelite: man = manual  man <command_you are curious about>
[04:06] <Antrixx> ricanelite: try sudo nano -w /etc/mol/molrc.video ... then ctrl+x to exit.. select y when it asks to save
[04:06] <Maczimus> hmmm will have to look into that
[04:06] <THX-1138> also  !info
[04:06] <hydoskee> anon32: DNS within a home network is completely unnecessary, and that's what he's talking about
[04:06] <edouard_> Ahh - no - sorry - it's an ELF binary! mp3enc31:     ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[04:06] <anon32> hydoskee, inside? well, duh...
[04:06] <anon32> I thought we were talking about DNS in general
[04:06] <zoidberg> LjL: it turns out he deleted the whole /log directory in the var folder...so when i touch it it says the file or directory does not exist
[04:06] <bryan> hola
[04:07] <Antrixx> lol
[04:07] <THX-1138> Hola!
[04:07] <hydoskee> anon32: nope, he just wants to be able to connect to other network machines via hostname
[04:07] <tritium> !es
[04:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:07] <THX-1138> !es
[04:07] <wastrel> prolly missing libs or lib version probs
[04:07] <tritium> Hi THX-1138, saw your message in my away log.
[04:07] <anon32> hydoskee, for 4 machines, can't he just remember the ip addresses?
[04:07] <Maczimus> 1 other question and im out. i have set up folder sharing through the standard dialog, but cant access it through my xp machine. password dialog pops up and then wont accept my ubuntu user/pass
[04:07] <THX-1138> tritium - okay,
[04:07] <zoidberg> LjL: are u still there....can you help me out man?
[04:07] <hydoskee> anon32: well yeah, but the /etc/hosts file is easier
[04:07] <edouard_> wastrel: That's what I thought. One problem is that ldd seg faults on the binary when I run it.
[04:08] <Flannel> Maczimus: you need to set up a samba user/password
[04:08] <Flannel> !tell Maczimus about samba
[04:08] <Maczimus> ok with a samba group
[04:08] <edouard_> wastrel: On fedora core all I had to do as install libc 5 (and libm 5) and version 1 of the dynamic runtime linker. That worked fine. But the ldd problem implies that things have changed even before the linker and libraries get involved under ubuntu.
[04:08] <THX-1138> tritium - by the way you are at least partly to blame for a switch to linux. - thans man.
[04:09] <tritium> THX-1138: your switch?  Glad to hear it ;)
[04:09] <VViki> both live CD and install CD come with same content?
[04:09] <Maczimus> i think i understand. thanks for all the help guys...i love ubuntu and love being able to learn and grow with something "New"
[04:09] <THX-1138> I couldn't go back to windows even if i wanted to.
[04:09] <hydoskee> does anybody have any idea why vncserver would respond with "could not connect to server" clientside while trying to connect to a ubuntu server on an unprotected network
[04:09] <zoidberg> guys so it turns out that my friend deleted the whole /log folder in the var directory...so i cant touch it....any help...xserver wont start coz is missing the xorg.0.log file...what canwe do?
[04:10] <wastrel> edouard_:  you could try an strace - not sure, i'm rusty on debugging anymore
[04:10] <hydoskee> I started the server with sudo vncserver :number -depth 16 -geometry 1440x900
[04:11] <THX-1138> Poor bill gates is going to be short $400 dollars soon. - Do you think he'll notice?
[04:11] <Flannel> zoidberg: er... Why can't you touch it?
[04:11] <tritium> zoidberg: create the /var/log folder, then.  Then, try "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart".  I don't think he's got to create /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:11] <anto9us> hydoskee, you have the ports correct? vncserver running on display 0, 1, 2 3 will need port of 5900, 5901, 5902, 5903 respectively by default
[04:11] <jonh_wendell> does somebody use edgy and evolution?
[04:11] <Flannel> jonh_wendell: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[04:11] <tritium> jonh_wendell: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:12] <hydoskee> anto9us: yes, starting a server on :2 and trying to connect to 5902.  Nmap of that machine shows 5902 unavailable but I don't remember if nmap shows vnc ports
[04:12] <ricky> hey everyone
[04:12] <wrabbit^> can anybody please name a good torrent client available in the repos?
[04:12] <THX-1138> Thunderbird doesn't give out those cryptic "Your mail server isn't compliant with standard RFC blah."
[04:12] <anto9us> hydoskee, yes, nmap should show it, is the server running?
[04:12] <edouard_> wastrel: strace didn't tell me much either -- execve("./mp3enc31", ["./mp3enc31"] , [/* 21 vars */] ) = 0
[04:12] <edouard_> old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6c000
[04:12] <edouard_> --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
[04:12] <hydoskee> anto9us: how can I tell server side if the vncserver is running?  nmap isn't showing 5902
[04:13] <anto9us> hydoskee, ps aux | grep vncserver
[04:13] <zoidberg> thanx guys it turned out that all we had to do was create the log folder...its all god thanx...u guys rock
[04:13] <hydoskee> anto9us: nope, nothing
[04:13] <ruffles> wrabbit^: azureus
[04:13] <hydoskee> anto9us: though it gives a positive confirmation when I start the server
[04:14] <ruffles> !ubuntu+1
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <anto9us> hydoskee, try grep vnc instead, I may not have the process name correct
[04:14] <Weber> Hello
[04:14] <hydoskee> anto9us: nothing
[04:14] <wrabbit^> ruffles: grabbing that now, thanks
[04:14] <ruffles> yw wrabbit^
[04:14] <hydoskee> anto9us: I've tried this before, also, and no luck
[04:15] <Weber> Does anyone know a little about cedega/fps drop/opengl ?
[04:15] <anto9us> hydoskee, the process is called Xrealvnc
[04:15] <edouard_> OK - sounds like no-one can help here with me trying to run an old elf binary under ubuntu. I'll see if I can find some kernel experts to ask. Thanks for trying!
[04:15] <wastrel> gl
[04:15] <hydoskee> anto9us: but it would show up on a simple grep of VNC
[04:16] <anto9us> hydoskee, caps are important, grep -i vnc
[04:16] <anto9us> hydoskee, -i will ignore caps
[04:19] <samuel> Ubuntu rocks so much I think i'll never boot Windows again
[04:19] <easytiger> quite
[04:19] <samuel> Hardware just works man
[04:20] <easytiger> exactly
[04:20] <samuel> I just plugged in a wireless keyboard and mouse and her presto
[04:20] <samuel> hey even man
[04:20] <samuel> *
[04:20] <easytiger> on windows that would be a getting drivers job
[04:21] <easytiger> kind of simplicity that you can't (literally) pay for
[04:21] <hydoskee> anto9us: done, and no luck
[04:22] <anto9us> hydoskee, process isn't running?
[04:22] <samuel> I have installed so many packages and it's still fast as!
[04:22] <hydoskee> anto9us: correct
 well the main issue with windows is the linear performance degradation with standard use
[04:23] <THX-1138> What is with the windows hardware wizard that always comes up empty for drivers? - Has synaptic been ported over to the M$ OS yet?
[04:23] <ricanelite> anyone here uses MOL??
[04:23] <easytiger> we call it "poor software design"
[04:23] <wastrel> what's MOL?
[04:23] <tritium> mounds of lubricant
[04:23] <anto9us> hydoskee, you sharing with remote desktop preferences?
[04:24] <breakdecks> can anyone help me.  I am out of disk space and I cannont log into my computer.  How do I free up disk space?  I tried deleting some files, but it didn't actally free up any space.
[04:24] <hydoskee> anto9us, no, vncserver on command line
[04:24] <anto9us> hydoskee, check its log
[04:24] <tritium> breakdecks: sudo apt-get clean
[04:24] <samuel> The world needs to know about ubuntu, I am going to install it on my grandmas PC! no more fixing her XP box
[04:24] <hydoskee> anto9us, I'm not looged into gnome on the box
[04:24] <hydoskee> anto9us where would it be
[04:24] <breakdecks> tritium:  did that, no dice
[04:24] <elriah> Hi all.  Is it possible to install Ubuntu Server 6.06 from a USB key as I did with Debian?
[04:25] <warlock> What's the command to copy everything in /home/cs1/ to /home/cs2/ ?
[04:25] <easytiger> i put it on my girlfriends pc.
[04:25] <anto9us> hydoskee, ~/.vnc/<host>:2.log
[04:25] <elriah> cp -R /home/cs1/ /home/cs2/
[04:25] <warlock> k
[04:25] <anto9us> hydoskee, it should tell you when the vnc server starts
[04:25] <THX-1138> breakdecks: Are there any files in /var/cache/apt/archive you don't want?
[04:25] <hydoskee> anto9us: Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
[04:25] <warlock> no that doesn't work elriah, it copys the DIR /cs1/ to /home/cs2/
[04:26] <warlock> I want everything in /home/cs1/ to be copied to /home/cs2/
[04:26] <tritium> THX-1138: apt-get clean should have removed them
[04:26] <anto9us> hydoskee, there's an X server installed on the machine?
[04:26] <hydoskee> anto9us:yes
[04:26] <THX-1138> tritium - that would do it. - didn't see it.
[04:26] <winterweaver> Hi there happy ubupeeps ^.^
[04:27] <winterweaver> I have a trick question....
[04:27] <warlock> anyone..?
[04:27] <winterweaver> how do I know if I have the 64-bit stuff installed for my box?
[04:27] <winterweaver> << newb
[04:27] <anto9us> hydoskee, no such file on my system, vncserver works ok though
[04:28] <hydoskee> anto9us: I installed it through apt-get, so is there something else I need to do?
[04:28] <Flannel> winterweaver: what's the output of uname -a
[04:28] <winterweaver> Linux smoenux0 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:29] <Flannel> winterweaver: you're running 32bit
[04:29] <tritium> winterweaver: you don't
[04:29] <gbutler69> Any thoughts on where I could/should ask the following question: Is it possible to run old Linux binaries (compiled for 2.4 kernel on RH 7.1) in some sort of chroot environment with a private libc etc on Ubuntu 6.06/6.10 with the 2.6.xx kernel?
[04:29] <winterweaver> flannel, cewl, how do you know that from the text?
[04:30] <warlock> What's the command to copy everything in /home/cs1/ to /home/cs2/ ?
[04:30] <wastrel> !chroot
[04:30] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:30] <Flannel> winterweaver: i386
[04:30] <elriah> gbutler: Not really.  Got source?
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> winterweaver, can you see i686 ???
[04:30] <tritium> !repeat > warlock
[04:30] <Flannel> winterweaver: er, and the 686 stuff
[04:30] <winterweaver> lol
[04:30] <warlock> then can someone just gave me a answer for it? :P
[04:30] <winterweaver> hey... did I mention ... newb :P
[04:31] <anto9us> hydoskee, this should help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH
[04:31] <elriah> warlock: cp -R /home/cs1/* /home/cs2/
[04:31] <elriah> Make sure /home/cs2/ exists first.
[04:31] <warlock> It does
[04:31] <warlock> gonna try again
[04:31] <tritium> warlock: somebody already had much earlier (scroll up)
[04:31] <gbutler69> elriah: No. No source. Proprietary (but necessary) application that can't currently be replaced.
[04:31] <Flannel> winterweaver: also, you installed from the i386 disk, instead of the 64bit one, that too would tell you ;)
[04:32] <tritium> gbutler69: yes, we know, Franhaufer's mp3 encoder
[04:32] <elriah> hrm... vmware?  Or just maintain a redhat 7 box... dunno..
[04:32] <elriah> It's the kernel that's gonna kill the libs.. your chroot idea will work with running-kernel compatabile libs...
[04:32] <winterweaver> Flannel, hmmm... does this mean, that if I want to install 64bit, I need to install from a 686 disk? Or can I just install the packages on my current system?
[04:32] <gbutler69> No, actually it's "Progress 4GL/DB" a proprietary VM/Database for "Enterprise" (yeah right) applications....
[04:33] <warlock> tritium - and if you read it didn't work.
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> winterweaver, 686 isn't 64 bit ...
[04:33] <winterweaver> now I'm confused <.>
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> winterweaver, to install 64 bit , you need 64 bit install cd ... is it confusing ?
[04:34] <gbutler69> What about Xen? Qemu? VMWare? Other? Run, RH 7.1 "in" a Hyper-vised VM under Ubuntu? Which is the better option to try?
[04:34] <winterweaver> nah... 64 bit install CD I understand :)
[04:34] <elriah> gbutler: I like vmware myself, but everybody has an opionion...
[04:34] <elriah> opinion
[04:34] <Flannel> winterweaver: if you want 64bit, you need the 64bit installer (which is NOT 686, by the way)
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> winterweaver, then look at your question above ... Flannel, hmmm... does this mean, that if I want to install 64bit, I need to install from a 686 disk?
[04:34] <winterweaver> ok... soo, i386 and i686 is 32 bit
[04:34] <elriah> winterweaver: You have a 64-bit CPU, right?
[04:34] <winterweaver> yeah
[04:35] <hydoskee> anto9us: that page has everything I knew already about this
[04:35] <hydoskee> anto9us, thee was no troubleshooting aspect
[04:35] <elriah> Yes, 64-bit arch will be x64 or EMT64 or AMD64
[04:35] <anto9us> hydoskee, you may have better success with tightvncserver
[04:35] <winterweaver> elriah, aaah... ok thankx
[04:35] <elriah> x86 (386, 686) are 32-bit
[04:36] <ssAmmuel> does anyone know the package for VmWare on ubuntu so i can create them not just play them?
[04:36] <winterweaver> hmm... my whole system is quite nicely set up, is it worth getting the 64-bit install?
[04:36] <fouressence> halloo, I'm moderately new to Ubuntu (and really Linux for that matter), and am trying to install gtk from source.  I think I've missed something when installing glib or pkg-config, because when I try to ./configure atk, it tells me that there is a conflict with the reported version of glib and the version pk-config knows about.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
[04:36] <elriah> ssAmmuel: You can download vmware server free if I'm not mistaken from vmware.com.. it's easy to install..
[04:36] <salami> Hello
[04:37] <ssAmmuel> ta
[04:37] <hydoskee> anto9us: didn't work any better, just more thorough output
[04:37] <hydoskee> anto9us: Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
[04:37] <hydoskee> MAXSOCKS=1000
[04:37] <elriah> winterweaver: Depends on what you're trying to do with the 64-bit stuff... I run 64-bit because I compile huge amounts of data and I can get a 20-30% speed boost with my native 64-bit code... But if you're not using something that specific to 64-bit, you won't notice much difference ...
[04:39] <winterweaver> elriah, well, I'm running CEDEGA, mainly for playing Guild Wars, but GW runs exceptionally slow, and the text is all mangled. So I was thinking, it might be because I have a 32 bit install...
[04:39] <tmdx120> Hi everyone quick quesion. I just downloaded a file. I unpacked it and now I have no idea how to install it. can anyone help?
[04:39] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, what file ?
[04:39] <salami> ?
[04:40] <[AvatarX] > Anon32, It worked!!! I changed the listen address at /etc/privoxy/conf
[04:40] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ok! is there any other win emulator beside wine?
[04:40] <[AvatarX] > now I can share my connection..
[04:40] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy, citrix client
[04:40] <gbutler69> What about Qemu? Anyone have experience with it?
[04:40] <[AvatarX] > thanks!
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> cedega ..
[04:40] <Flannel> winterweaver: nah, not really.  And you'll have lots of problems with stuff like wine/flash/etc on 64bit systems.
[04:40] <[AvatarX] > Anyone here using Ubuntu64 and Folding@home?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, ah k ... i install it before .. full name of the file pls .. btw check if it is in repo yet ?
[04:40] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy, its supposed to let me set up a remote server.
[04:40] <dailyinvent> I'm having some issues with my wireless network card.
[04:40] <cyber_brain_mfkg> wickedpuppy: can i find it in ubuntu repositories?
[04:41] <elriah> winterweaver: You won't see any performance boost.. it actually may run slower... You would need a 64-bit cedega (don't know if it even exists) but more importantly you would need 64-bit games and there aren't any (or many) for the PC.
[04:41] <THX-1138> winterweaver - similar problem with text in half-life 2 and World of warcraft. - reducing color depth and refreshing the color depth when text is corrupted helps. in WoW turn off "UI Scale"
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> cyber_brain_mfkg, cedega ? no you got to download it i think
[04:41] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy, something LIKE citrix is it it. Should I give that a try first?
[04:41] <dailyinvent> It's finding the card and ndiswrapper says its installed
[04:41] <anto9us> hydoskee, did you do the fontpath stuff that the wiki recommends?
[04:41] <hydoskee> anto9us: any thoughts beyond tightvncserver?
[04:41] <hydoskee> anto9us, I get less errors when I delete it
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, you mean try searchin ? yes always do that first pls
[04:41] <ubuntu__> opera comes with many different packages for different distros, which one do I pick? ubuntu is not on the list
[04:41] <winterweaver> wow thanks guys !!
[04:41] <hydoskee> anto9us, I did it, but it just threw more errors
[04:41] <MrKeuner> is it really coming out on 26th?
[04:42] <fouressence> I'm moderately new to Ubuntu (and really Linux for that matter), and am trying to install gtk from source.  I think I've missed something when installing glib or pkg-config, because when I try to ./configure atk, it tells me that there is a conflict with the reported version of glib and the version pk-config knows about.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
[04:42] <ubuntu__> btw, the site is auto selecting Xaero for me
[04:42] <THX-1138> winterweaver: as far as i know it isn't a 32/64 library issue it is something to do with the VBO extension in xorg.
[04:42] <hmm> why does freeciv suck so badly ?
[04:42] <tritium> ubuntu__: opera is available in the ubuntu repos
[04:42] <tritium> (commercial)
[04:42] <cd32fan> relp i cant reconfigure my xserver-org
[04:42] <cd32fan> please relp
[04:42] <tritium> cd32fan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work?
[04:43] <cd32fan> it says that it isnt installed
[04:43] <J-_> !splash
[04:43] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[04:43] <cd32fan> :(
[04:43] <cyber_brain_mfkg> wickedpuppy: is there big diference between these two emulators?
[04:43] <winterweaver> Flannel, Eelriah, THX-1138: Thanx for the help guys!! I'll get on the cedega forums to try and sort out my gaming issues, and I'll stick to 32-bit then ^_^
[04:43] <MrKeuner> ubuntu__: I cannot appreciate the like that likes opera as a browser
[04:43] <ubuntu_> what
[04:43] <tritium> cd32fan: did you do a server install, or what?
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> cyber_brain_mfkg, cedega is commercialised wine ... google for it pls
[04:43] <anto9us> hydoskee, apt-get install x11vnc and try again
[04:43] <cd32fan> i also am getting a -bash notice
[04:43] <cd32fan> it says i dont have control or something
[04:43] <lanteau> Im trying to do a dist-upgrade, and lvm2 is failing
[04:44] <MrKeuner> ubuntu_: not talking to you
[04:44] <lanteau> can someone help me?
[04:44] <dailyinvent> Has anyone around here had experience with installing a Belkin wireless pcmcia card: Model #F5D7010? ver 5100
[04:44] <cd32fan> tritium:what can i do?
[04:44] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy, its not working.
[04:44] <hydoskee> anto9us, same errors
[04:44] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, then pls tell me the exact file name that you downloaded pls
[04:44] <tritium> cd32fan: I need to know exactly what the error is,
[04:44] <cd32fan> all this happened because i tried to use the ATI drivers
[04:45] <cd32fan> i made a backup
[04:45] <lanteau> any idea why I would get: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10
[04:45] <cd32fan> but i dont know how to put it back
[04:45] <lanteau> ?
[04:45] <cyber_brain_mfkg> wickedpuppy: ok! thanx and sorry 4 interruption!
[04:45] <elriah> cd32fan: Amiga cd32?
[04:45] <MrKeuner> lanteau: package is broken
[04:45] <tmdx120> how do I get citrix to work? I have an file with an executable that I extracted called echo_cmd
[04:45] <cd32fan> hehehe
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> cyber_brain_mfkg, np ..
[04:45] <cd32fan> yep
[04:45] <lanteau> MrKeuner: how do I work around, or fix?
[04:45] <elriah> Cool.
[04:45] <cd32fan> relp
[04:45] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy,  how do I get citrix to work? I have an file with an executable that I extracted called echo_cmd
[04:45] <bob_harris> does anybody have any experience with digital cameras and ubuntu?
[04:45] <rmd_> is there a way to dual-boot Ubuntu with windows xp w/o making my Dell Restoration partition disappear?
[04:45] <MrKeuner> lanteau: you have to check the preinstallation script
[04:45] <elriah> Loved my Amigas, ahhh the good ole' days.
[04:46] <lanteau> MrKeuner: how do I do this?
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, exact file name that you downloaded pls ? and does it have INSTALL or README inside ?
[04:46] <MrKeuner> extract the deb package somewhere and check the preinst script inside
[04:46] <cd32fan> 1 sec
[04:46] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy, yes it has a readme the file is called linuxx86.cor
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> cor ?
[04:46] <dailyinvent> Does anone have experience with configuring atheros wireless cards in linux?
[04:47] <[AvatarX] > Anyone here using Ubuntu64 and Folding@home?
[04:47] <lanteau> MrKeuner: I extracted it, where would the preinst script me?
[04:47] <lanteau> be*
[04:47] <fouressence> In trying to compile/install gtk and all its dependencies, I've encountered a problem (without any doubt, mine): I run ./configure on atk, and it spits out this error (some parts cut out to make this shorter):  GLIB 2.5.7 or better is required. ... If GLIB is installed but not in the same location as pkg-config add the location of the file glib-2.0.pc to the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH.
[04:47] <cd32fan> tritium:xserver-org aint installed apparently
[04:47] <MrKeuner> find . -name pre*
[04:47] <fouressence> Has anyone else had this problem/can help?
[04:47] <elriah> Does MySQL 5 and PHP5 install by default with 6.06 server?
[04:47] <tritium> fouressence: why not intsall the gtk -dev packages?
[04:47] <cd32fan> what can i do?
[04:47] <tritium> cd32fan: are you sure?  what makes you say this?
[04:48] <hydoskee> anto9us, any other ideas?
[04:48] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy, intall says "o install the Citrix ICA Client for Unix run the setupwfc script and
[04:48] <tmdx120> follow the on-screen prompts. The default installation location is
[04:48] <tmdx120> /usr/lib/ICAClient for installation by the superuser, otherwise
[04:48] <tmdx120> $HOME/ICAClient/$OS, but this can be changed during installation. "
[04:48] <lanteau> MrKeuner: nothing
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> pls do not paste here tmdx120
[04:48] <fouressence> tritium: what's the specific name of the package for apt-get ?
[04:48] <elriah> Does the full ubuntu gui come with ubuntu server 6.06?
[04:48] <lanteau> MrKeuner: it made an etc, lib, and usr dir, and there is nothing like a pre install script in any of them
[04:48] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy, sorry
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, then why not do what it says ?
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> elriah: Not by default, but is easily added.
[04:48] <MrKeuner> lanteau: I canot help more, may be it has a special name. I really do not know packaging
[04:48] <warlock> How can I create an account that has the same access as a root account?
[04:48] <cd32fan> it says it doesnt have information about it,so it probably assumes it isnt installed?
[04:48] <tritium> fouressence: which package?
[04:48] <elriah> tonyyarusso: a virtual package?  know the name?
[04:49] <lanteau> MrKeuner: is there anyway I can like freeze lvm2 until it's fixed?
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> elriah: ubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <fouressence> well, the end result is that I want to install gtk.  So, to install gtk...
[04:49] <MrKeuner> lanteau: one of them is preinst script for sure
[04:49] <tmdx120> wicked, I dont know how to run the script! <---NEWBIE!!!
[04:49] <elriah> tnx
[04:49] <cd32fan> lets try something else
[04:49] <elriah> New to Ubuntu, we're switching everything from debian.  Does 6.06 use MySQL 5 and PHP5 by default?
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, sh setupwfc
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> try this
[04:50] <tritium> fouressence: try "apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev" to find it
[04:50] <cd32fan> how can i gain control
[04:50] <Flannel> elriah: yes
[04:50] <elriah> tnx
[04:50] <tritium> fouressence: you likely want libgtk2.0-dev ;)
[04:50] <cd32fan> it says i dont have console control
[04:50] <MrKeuner> lancetw: yeah in synaptibc select package/lock
[04:50] <Flannel> elriah: well, "default" isn't completely accurate, but yes, those are both in the repos
[04:50] <cd32fan> but i have logged in
[04:50] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !cedega
[04:50] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[04:50] <MrKeuner> lanteau: but if upper version of lvm2 is required then it won't work
[04:50] <bob_harris> Has anybody experienced any issues with digital cameras and ubuntu?
[04:50] <elriah> Flannel: So if I choose the LAMP environment from the install what do I get for MySQL and PHP?
[04:50] <cd32fan> then when i try to reconfigure the xserver it says it isnt available
[04:51] <Flannel> elriah: 5 and 5
[04:51] <lanteau> MrKeuner: hmm, now this is something id expect to h appen on unstable, not stable
[04:51] <elriah> Cool.  Tnx.
[04:51] <MrKeuner> lanteau: you should not use universe and multiverse then
[04:51] <wastrel> bob_harris:  not me - ubuntu autodetects pretty well so far.
[04:51] <tritium> cd32fan: "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg" says what?
[04:51] <Solbe> I keep getting this error message E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. I try to do this but I get this sudo dpkg -configure -a
[04:51] <cd32fan> one sec
[04:51] <wastrel> bob_harris:  worst case scenario buy a card reader and use that instead of importing from the camera
[04:51] <lanteau> MrKeuner: ahh are they causing this issue?
[04:51] <MrKeuner> lanteau: universe is user contibution
[04:52] <AntriX> excellent! I'm now feeling pretty edgy!
[04:52] <MrKeuner> lancetw: multiverse is even worse
[04:52] <tritium> MrKeuner: not exactly
[04:52] <lanteau> MrKeuner: I enabled it to install Xubuntu, but I could probably disable it
[04:52] <rmd_> is there a way to install grub without losing my dell's ability to boot a restoration partition?
[04:52] <anto9us> hydoskee, I'm stuck I'm afraid
[04:52] <pianoboy3333> Is there a tango theme for gnometris?
[04:52] <fouressence> tritium: thanks. :)  Downloading now...  Still, I'm curious, is the problem with ./configure -ing atk something obvious?
[04:52] <bob_harris> wastrel: yes, the photos/usb camera drive is detected without an issue, but when it comes to deleting the photos, or copying photos it doesn't work so well
[04:52] <MrKeuner> lanteau: it is not universe or multiverse causing it
[04:52] <MrKeuner> it is a packeage in them
[04:52] <tritium> fouressence: not that I saw
[04:52] <Xaphoo> how do you restart x if it crashes?  Without rebooting the whole comp...
[04:52] <lanteau> MrKeuner:  I know
[04:53] <AntriX> ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:53] <bob_harris> wastrel: i tried to copy an image to the camera drive from ubuntu and the camera does not detect it as a picture
[04:53] <Xaphoo> thanks
[04:53] <wizard> I have installed kubuntu and it has been pretty unpleasent. I installed the nvidia drivers off the site, did everythig right... it'll load X after i install them, function great... Then when I reboot the system HANGS on the kubuntu splash and sits there until i resinstall the drivers again in single user mode.
[04:53] <iloivar> if it's down you can try sudo /etc/init.d/[gk] dm restart
[04:53] <MrKeuner> tritium: correct me please then
[04:53] <tritium> wizard: use ubuntu nvidia packages, not downloads from nvidia.com
[04:53] <tritium> !components > MrKeuner
[04:53] <cd32fan> tritium:it says installed
[04:53] <tritium> cd32fan: good
[04:53] <wizard> tritium: i've tried those too, and they won't even boot into X
[04:53] <lanteau> MrKeuner: the lvm2 package that is failing is out of dapper main though
[04:53] <fouressence> tritium: okee dokes, thanks!
[04:53] <wastrel> bob_harris:  perhaps the camera only recognizes pictures with specific pattern in the file name?
[04:53] <cd32fan> so whats next?
[04:53] <Solbe> I keep getting this error message E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. I try to do this but I get this sudo dpkg -configure -a
[04:54] <tritium> foglight: good luck
[04:54] <aSt3raL_> what kernel should i run on an amd semperon cpu?
[04:54] <tritium> Solbe: don't forget to use sudo with that
[04:54] <MrKeuner> lanteau: if it is part of main then you are right to cry
[04:54] <MrKeuner> lanteau: please report a bug
[04:54] <hydoskee> anto9us: any ideas for other places to go?
[04:54] <anto9us> hydoskee, is logging in and sharing the desktop not an option?
[04:54] <hydoskee> anto9us: not at all
[04:54] <tritium> cd32fan: I want to see the exact error please
[04:54] <lanteau> MrKeuner: hmm okay, Im browsing the forums now
[04:54] <Solbe> dpkg: unknown option -o Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ; Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management; Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values; Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options; Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe i
[04:55] <Antrixx> X seemed to cause a total kernel freeze on edgy... fixed it by booting failsafe and then doing another apt-get update apt-get upgrade (X related files were upgraded).. now it works =)
[04:55] <Antrixx> <3
[04:55] <hydoskee> anto9us: separate resolutions on the monitor configured with ubuntu and the one I want to use it with
[04:55] <cd32fan> tritium:the error of the failed reconfigured xserver,right?
[04:55] <bob_harris> wastrel: the pattern was consistent with the cameras format, and another time i selected "Move to Trash", all the photos from the camera and it erased them from being detected from the camera but they were still taking up space on the camera, but since the camera couldn't detect them they couldn't be deleted by the camera causing me a major issue
[04:55] <lanteau> MrKeuner: here could be the problem...ubuntu-standard isnt used anymore is it?
[04:55] <cd32fan> btw
[04:55] <cd32fan> its not in english
[04:55] <Solbe> I just listed, its not flooding just explaining..I am new to ubuntu obviously and not quite used its being a SUSE user..How do I dkpg?
[04:55] <wizard> i am trying, once again, to install the nvidia drivers through apt get... For some reason X will not even boot when done this way.
[04:55] <MrKeuner> lanteau: I do not even know what that might be
[04:55] <Solbe> tritium
[04:56] <anto9us> hydoskee, do you really need vnc? if you ssh -X you can forward X connections to render graphic apps locally
[04:56] <tmdx120> wicked, Ok, it worked. THANKS! now let me see if I can get the software to work!
[04:56] <Solbe> tritium:I did look at my message just keep getting the command and switch list
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, cheers ...
[04:56] <hydoskee> anto9us, unfortunately I've tried all the "almosts" and they're not acceptable
[04:56] <wastrel> bob_harris:  ah yes that is frustrating.  It's because ubuntu mounted the card in your camera as an external drive.  Gnome, being overly helpful, created a trash can on the drive and moved the images you deleted into it
[04:56] <tritium> Solbe: don't use the -o switch.  Use the -a switch
[04:57] <tritium> cd32fan: yes, let me see it.  Please use my nick so I see the hilight
[04:57] <wastrel> bob_harris:  i normally use the command line for file management ...  so haven't been too bothered by that problem.
[04:57] <wizard> okay i just installed the nvidia drivers via apt-get and when i went to restart kdm it still just sits on splash
[04:57] <tmdx120> wicked, doesnt work
[04:57] <cd32fan> tritium:/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-org not installed
[04:57] <anto9us> hydoskee, maybe freenx is an alternative https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:58] <tritium> cd32fan: please run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg", then
[04:58] <warlock> How do I 'join' a screen session?
[04:58] <Xavier101> hydoskee, are you trying to do remote desktop?
[04:58] <tritium> warlock: screen -r
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, how did you try it ? pls give more info .. and pls my nick is wickedpuppy ... type wicked and press tab pls
[04:58] <Solbe> tritium:I did I used every possible combination listed and I keep getting the stupid list over and over again
[04:58] <bob_harris> wastrel: last issue is that i have 2 memory sticks, ubuntu detects the first one and i transfer all my files to the hard drive, than unplug and put in the second memory stick and ubuntu thinks that the pictures are the same ones from the previous card
[04:59] <hydoskee> anto9us: tried already, using a 64 bit architecture so freenx isn't supported
[04:59] <kristjin> Yeah, this isn't working.
[04:59] <hydoskee> Xavier101: yes
[04:59] <TheTurtle> install question - 6.06 live cd works but when installing it hangs after i choose "manual partition"...it starts the partition screen and the progress bar is moving and then locks up. 6.06 server cd install works fine
[04:59] <Xavier101> hydoskee, have you tried x11vnc?
[04:59] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy, Well, I installed, then I opend the browswer then I went to my VPN and clicked on it and nothing.
[04:59] <kristjin> I am STILL unable to access the mounted ntfs drive from within ubuntu.
[04:59] <wastrel> bob_harris:  do you unmount the first one first?
[04:59] <wastrel> before you unplug it
[04:59] <Xavier101> hydoskee,  my friend and I were able to remote connect
[04:59] <breakdecks> GDM couldnt write to your authorization file. this could mean that you are out of disk space or your home directory couldnt be opened for writing. in any case, it is not possible to login in. contact your system administrator.
[04:59] <bob_harris> wastrel: how do you do this?
[04:59] <breakdecks> how do I fix this?
[04:59] <kristjin> I have followed all instructions that were provided on !ntfs
[04:59] <Xavier101> hydoskee, and I was able to fix his comp
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, can paste the readme and install if you have them on the pastebin pls
[04:59] <tritium> Solbe: /query me please
[04:59] <Antrixx> Edgy seems awesome... But how do i get rid of that horrible framebuffer splash screen? apt-get remove usplash ?
[05:00] <kristjin> I have done extensive chown -R commands
[05:00] <wastrel> bob_harris:  right-click the icon on the desktop and choose "unmount volume" before you unplug it.
[05:00] <kristjin> I have done it all...
[05:00] <Solbe> tritium:so please show me the right list to update sudo dpkg -??
[05:00] <tritium> Antrixx: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions please
[05:00] <kristjin> I can, as root, access the folder from within terminal.
[05:00] <TheTurtle> any boot options i can use to help with this or any suggestions would be appreciated...i googled but did not find an answer
[05:00] <cd32fan> tritium:it is installing..
[05:00] <hydoskee> Xavier101: we've been through all the regular channels, i get an error that it can't find the RGB_DB at /usr/X11/lib/rgb
[05:00] <Antrixx> fritium: sorry, thx =)
[05:00] <kristjin> I can NOT, hwoever, access the mounted folder from within ubuntu.
[05:00] <tritium> Solbe: to update?  "sudo apt-get update"
[05:00] <kristjin> This is the only problem.
[05:00] <bob_harris> wastrel: ok, thanks for you help
[05:00] <gyro54> I've broken my  when I tried to upgrade to Edgy. Now my language is stuffed and I have spent all morning trying to fix it. i think I will just completely install from scratch.
[05:00] <Xavier101> hydoskee, o
[05:00] <pianoboy3333> Is there a tango theme for gnometris?
[05:00] <kristjin> Does anyone understand this problem?
[05:01] <tritium> gyro54: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions please
[05:01] <jrib> kristjin: how are you mounting it
[05:01] <kristjin> It's mounted.
[05:01] <jrib> kristjin: yes, but _how_?
[05:01] <kristjin> Via fstab.
[05:01] <jrib> kristjin: what's the line in fstab?
[05:01] <Xavier101> hydoskee, are you sure that's the right folder?
[05:01] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy,  hmmmm. I downloaded the tar file to my desktop, now every time I try to access the VPN i get a LAUNCH.ASP file on my desktop. any ideas on that?
[05:01] <gyro54> OK see you
[05:02] <kristjin> Well, I've changed it again, so let me reboot.
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, really ... are you reading my messages ?
[05:02] <kristjin> back momentarily.
[05:02] <hydoskee> Xavier101: it's close if it's not the same one, it's not a copy and paste
[05:02] <kristjin> gah.
[05:02] <sladen> Antrixx: remove 'splash' from the kernel command line
[05:02] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy, I dont know how to pastebin.
[05:02] <lanteau> jrib: I'm wondering the same thing
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[05:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:02] <lanteau> jrib: mount -a isn't it?
[05:03] <bob_harris> wastrel: what file format is a usb camera drive? ie. i have a usb external hard drive that i formatted as ntfs, does this play a factor?
[05:03] <cd32fan> tritium:still not installed
[05:03] <jrib> lanteau: yeah, though unmounting might be necessary first if you change some options iirc
[05:03] <cd32fan> i dont know what is wrong with this thing
[05:03] <lanteau> jrib: yep
[05:03] <warlock> How do you set all of the files in a dir to be owned by root?
[05:03] <wastrel> bob_harris:  i believe removable media is typically FAT but i'm not sure
[05:03] <hydoskee> Xavier101:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
[05:04] <tmdx120> wickedpuppy, ???
[05:04] <tmdx120> ?
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> tmdx120, pls visit that site pls
[05:04] <tmdx120> !pastebin
[05:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:04] <tritium> cd32fan: okay, try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"
[05:05] <cd32fan> tritium:the only thing i can think of the -bash thing..
[05:05] <lanteau> reboot, new kernel.
[05:05] <tritium> cd32fan: what are you referring to?
[05:05] <Xavier101> hydoskee, i don't have that file either
[05:05] <warlock> Is there a easy way to set all files in a dir to be owned by a specefic user? (I had to rephrase this question, came out wrong for the first time)
[05:05] <cd32fan> it says i dont have control of this session
[05:05] <cd32fan> -bash: no control over this session
[05:06] <warlock> um
[05:06] <Xavier101> hydoskee, i can still run x11vnc though
[05:06] <crass_> I'm trying to install 6.10 but when I run the install on the desktop and select my language the program stalls and never gets to the next window
[05:06] <hydoskee> Xavier101: but when I try to start a vncsesion, it says it can't find the RGB_DB at that location, and also it can't lock my .XAuthority file
[05:06] <anto9us> hydoskee, xdmcp maybe an alternative, found this, http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/08/16/Enabling-xdmcp-in-tsclient-for-ubuntu
[05:06] <hydoskee> Xavier101: and I'm not debating over whether you can run it or not, I'm just telling you the errors it throws me when I try and run a vncserver from the command line
[05:06] <tritium> cd32fan: eww
[05:06] <J-_> this is probably a lame question BUT what's the difference between gtk 2.x and metacity?
[05:07] <cd32fan> hmm
[05:07] <warlock> tritium - any ideas?
[05:07] <crass_> has anyone seen this issue?
[05:07] <TheTurtle> warlock: check out 'chown"...eg...chown user.group FILENAME
[05:07] <hydoskee> anto9us, I'm trying to connect from OS X, so vnc is pretty well the only option
[05:07] <Xavier101> hydoskee, are you trying to connect to someone, or is someone trying to connect to you?
[05:07] <Solbe> tritium:have you read my qury ?
[05:07] <J-_> !metacity
[05:07] <ubotu> metacity: A lightweight GTK2 based Window Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.14.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 693 kB, installed size 10732 kB
[05:07] <warlock> let me test TheTurtle
[05:07] <tritium> Solbe: never saw anything from you. Are you registered?
[05:07] <J-_> !gtk
[05:07] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[05:07] <hydoskee> Xavier101, two machines, root on both, me connecting one to the other
[05:07] <Solbe> nope
[05:07] <hydoskee> Xavier101, one client one server
[05:07] <aSt3raL_> what kernel should i run on an amd semperon cpu?
[05:07] <J-_> hmm
[05:07] <Xavier101> hydoskee, server install x11vnc
[05:07] <cd32fan> is there anything i can type to find out whats wrong with xserver-org?
[05:07] <Solbe> wait
[05:07] <warlock> didn't work TheTurtle, I did cd /home/ then chown root:root /home/cs1/
[05:08] <hydoskee> Xavier101: installed already
[05:08] <J-_> !gtk 2.0
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk 2.0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <hydoskee> Xavier101, reinstalled twice
[05:08] <Xavier101> hydoskee, client: vncviewer <ip address>:0
[05:08] <TheTurtle> warlock: did you use sudo chown...
[05:08] <warlock> no
[05:08] <aSt3raL_> i tried to install with i386 cd image and the system hangs
[05:08] <hydoskee> Xavier101, I know how the process works, I've done it a million times and set it up just as many
[05:08] <warlock> let me try
[05:08] <Solbe> tritium:there
[05:08] <warlock> still not workin
[05:08] <Solbe> tritium:have you seen it now? =)
[05:08] <Xavier101> hydoskee, ok...
[05:08] <tritium> Solbe: yes
[05:08] <Xavier101> sorry
[05:08] <kristjin> Hey, guess whose 400 Gig's of Music is showing up on his desktop now?
[05:09] <warlock> TheTurtle - can you join #blabla.help ? I'll show you what i want to change
[05:09] <hydoskee> Xavier101, it doesn't actually set up the server, and nmap doesn't display 590x as available from the client machine
[05:09] <hydoskee> Xavier101: ps -ef | grep -i vnc returns nothing as well
[05:09] <hydoskee> Xavier101, it just throws errors when I try and start the session
[05:09] <cd32fan> oh no
[05:09] <Xavier101> o
[05:09] <kristjin> So here's my only final question, folks...
[05:09] <tritium> cd32fan: what?
[05:10] <warlock> think i fixed i t
[05:10] <cd32fan> im starting to think i wont get this thing to work
[05:10] <kristjin> I have this amazing collection of mp3's.
[05:10] <warlock> STILL Messed up errors, godamnit.
[05:10] <tritium> warlock: language, please
[05:10] <hydoskee> Xavier101: Couldn't start Xtightvnc process.
[05:10] <hydoskee> Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
[05:10] <hydoskee> MAXSOCKS=1000
[05:10] <hydoskee> Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
[05:10] <hydoskee> MAXSOCKS=1000
[05:10] <cd32fan> the only thing different i see in the console is this "-bash"
[05:10] <kristjin> About 300 gigs of mp3s, and 100 gigs of movies.
[05:10] <kristjin> But.
[05:10] <warlock> tritium - ?
[05:10] <kristjin> It is on an NTFS drive.
[05:10] <cd32fan> says i dont have control over the console
[05:11] <tritium> hydoskee: please don't paste
[05:11] <hydoskee> tritium: sorry
[05:11] <tritium> warlock: as in please watch the offensive language
[05:11] <aSt3raL_> can i install ubuntu 6.06 on a amd sempron cpu?
[05:11] <kristjin> So, as you all know, I don't have write support for the drive.
[05:11] <warlock> tritium eh, I understood that, - but I didn't see any offensive in that :)
[05:11] <wastrel> i have 5 computers in my house and do'nt think i even have 100 GB combined
[05:12] <tritium> warlock: look harder, then
[05:12] <cafuego> aSt3raL_: yup
[05:12] <kristjin> Any suggestions on a solution without having to buy another drive immediately?
[05:12] <warlock> I wont ):
[05:12] <kristjin> I NEED another drive for backup purposes, and intend to buy one.
[05:13] <cd32fan> tritum:there is a flaw here
[05:13] <samuel> if I do sudo apt-get install edubuntu for the kid's will that just install another desktop session? or will i lost my standard ubuntu?
[05:13] <kristjin> As soon as someone buys my extraneous hard drive, (160 Gig Sata drive, loaded with their selection of mp3's) I'll be doing just that.
[05:13] <tritium> cd32fan: tell me...
[05:13] <cd32fan> everytime i login
[05:13] <cd32fan> it says there is a flaw
[05:13] <tritium> which is?
[05:13] <cd32fan> -bash: no control
[05:13] <aSt3raL_> do i need the amd64 image then?
[05:13] <kristjin> Until then, though, any suggestions on an easy way to change the partitioning?
[05:13] <cd32fan> im translating this
[05:14] <cd32fan> but it says -bash
[05:14] <cd32fan> this didnt show up before
[05:14] <samuel> if I do sudo apt-get install edubuntu for the kid's will that just install another desktop session? or will i lost my standard ubuntu?
[05:14] <cd32fan> "no work control in this session"
[05:14] <tritium> cd32fan: please use punctuation instead of the enter key so often
[05:15] <cd32fan> alright
[05:15] <colder4545> samuel, it will install another desktop, you will not lose anything
[05:15] <Solaris444> hi fellas
[05:15] <samuel> sweet
[05:15] <colder4545> samuel, you can select your new desktop while at login, under options
[05:15] <samuel> thanks
[05:16] <cd32fan> can i reset this session?
[05:16] <samuel> will it mean i have two gnomes? or will edubuntu just use the gnome packages i allready have....? so it wont waste space bla bla
[05:16] <colder4545> samuel, gnome is reused
[05:17] <samuel> thanks
[05:17] <cd32fan> tritium:what do you sugest ?
[05:17] <wastrel> samuel:  the package manager is only going to download what you don't already have
[05:17] <tritium> cd32fan: are you in a gnome terminal, or the console?
[05:17] <cd32fan> good question
[05:17] <hydoskee> anto9us is there a good way to get freenx to run on a 64 bit architecture?
[05:17] <kristjin> Anyone?  Anyone?
[05:17] <crass_> has anyone had issues installing ubuntu 6.10?
[05:17] <kristjin> Bueller?
[05:17] <colder4545> does anyone know why we always have between 800 and 850 users online?
[05:18] <kristjin> Really?
[05:18] <hydoskee> anto9us, it says unsupported, but that sounds like "maybe" to me
[05:18] <tritium> crass_: yes, please be sure you grab the newer 6.10.1 install image
[05:18] <tritium> crass_: 6.06 rather
[05:18] <anto9us> hydoskee, sorry, I've no idea, I'm still on 32 bit
[05:18] <cd32fan> tritium:cd32@cd32fan-desktop:~$
[05:18] <kristjin> Does anyone know how to change the partitioning?
[05:18] <kristjin> :)
[05:18] <crass_> tritium: so you're saying not to use 6.10 at all?
[05:18] <hydoskee> anto9us - well I'm reconsidering the switch
[05:18] <tritium> crass_: 6.10 questions belong in #ubuntu+1
[05:19] <tritium> crass_: no, I'm not saying that.  Wrong channel, though.
[05:19] <cd32fan> gnome?
[05:19] <crass_> ok, thanks
[05:19] <Solaris444> guys, what does ubuntu use for asian language input on english keyboards?
[05:19] <tritium> cd32fan: you'd know if you were running gnome.  It's a graphical desktop env.
[05:19] <cd32fan> im not then
[05:19] <anto9us> hydoskee, the switch to Ubuntu?
[05:20] <hydoskee> anto9us - 64bit, I'm a fan of ubuntu
[05:20] <tritium> cd32fan: how long ago did  you install?
[05:20] <cd32fan> today
[05:20] <tritium> cd32fan: from which install image?
[05:20] <anto9us> hydoskee, yes, I think compatibility issues outweigh performance
[05:20] <cd32fan> but it all started going wrong after i tried the ATi driver
[05:21] <cd32fan> 0.06
[05:21] <cd32fan> dapper i think
[05:21] <tritium> cd32fan: the newer 6.06.1 release?
[05:21] <cd32fan> yes
[05:22] <tritium> cd32fan: you're sure?  The original release had some major bugs.
[05:22] <Solaris444> does anyone know anything about asian language input?
[05:22] <cd32fan> u mean the 6.06.1 ?
[05:22] <tritium> cd32fan: no, that was the fix to 6.01
[05:22] <tritium> 6.06, rather
[05:22] <anto9us> hydoskee, might be worth a post on here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+tickets
[05:23] <cd32fan> i have the 6.06
[05:23] <cd32fan> im sure
[05:23] <tritium> cd32fan: you need 6.06.1 then
[05:23] <tritium> cd32fan: you're likely experiencing the bugs that required the .1 release
[05:24] <cd32fan> tritium:can i update through the console?
[05:24] <wastrel> Solaris444:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[05:24] <cd32fan> will i lose all my installation?
[05:24] <tritium> cd32fan: but your install never completed properly, right?  I'd download the newer install image, and use that.
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> Say, how do you click the network icon in a default install to get network-admin?  (I have n-m, so don't have it)
[05:24] <Solaris444> thanks wastrel: now, the tricky part... is there a way I can use this in SuSE?
[05:24] <tritium> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06.1/release.1/
[05:24] <cd32fan> i did use it
[05:24] <wastrel> hah
[05:24] <Solaris444> I know this is ubuntu, but please throw me a bone here.
[05:25] <wastrel> google scim suse mebby :]   dunno
[05:25] <cd32fan> i installed a bunch of things
[05:25] <tritium> cd32fan: the _newer_ one (see above URL)
[05:25] <cd32fan> can i see the version im using now?
[05:25] <hydoskee> does anybody know if there's an X11 or X windowing channel?
[05:25] <cd32fan> what must i type?
[05:25] <Artemis3> xorg ?
[05:25] <THX-1138> #xorg
[05:26] <tritium> cd32fan: you need to download the newer installer, burn it to CD, and install from it
[05:26] <m4jqp> how do i enable ssh?
[05:26] <ubuntu__> im using live CD, will it retain all changes after I shut down?
[05:26] <wastrel> m4jqp:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:26] <m4jqp> so someone can connect to my computer?
[05:26] <cd32fan> it doesnt make sense,since i downloaded it today
[05:26] <cd32fan> from the ubuntu site
[05:26] <cd32fan> and i used for 2 hours
[05:27] <kmon_> hi, I'm using edgy and I'm afraid I've messed my gconf settings, can someone help?
[05:27] <cd32fan> with gnome
[05:27] <wasabi> Anybody aware why I should choose amd64-xeon kernel instead of amd64-server?
[05:27] <tritium> cd32fan: but you told me you downloaded 6.06, and you were sure.  That's the _old_ one.
[05:27] <RandomChu> I'm sorry, but I can't seem to remember a command to figure out the local ip address from the terminal... Help? :/
[05:27] <m4jqp> wastrel, after that's installed do i /etc/init.d/sshd start ?
[05:27] <cd32fan> but this "-bash" thing is the problem i think
[05:27] <noiesmo> m4jqp, ssh should be enabled by default however you may need to set up port forwarding from your router or modem
[05:27] <Artemis3> xeon sounds like intel
[05:27] <noiesmo> m4jqp, yes
[05:27] <cd32fan> i remember 6.06
[05:27] <tritium> cd32fan: do you understand the difference between the 6.06 and the 6.06.1 releases?
[05:27] <wastrel> !ssh
[05:27] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:27] <cd32fan> yea
[05:27] <kmon_> hi, I'm using edgy and I'm afraid I've messed my gconf settings, can someone help?
[05:28] <m4jqp> noiesmo, k ill give it a try, thanks
[05:28] <tritium> cd32fan: then you should understand that you're using an installer with major problems.
[05:28] <cd32fan> but it was working i tell ya
[05:28] <brian98> RandomChu, system - administration - networking
[05:28] <wastrel> m4jqp:  that would work not sure if it comes up automatically.... been a while since i installed
[05:28] <cd32fan> tritium:ok,one last try
[05:29] <RandomChu> brian98: I fail to see it.
[05:29] <cd32fan> tritium:how can i reset the user login in the console?
[05:29] <RandomChu> Ah, found it through ifconfig. Silly me.
[05:29] <tritium> cd32fan: you're obviously not listening to what I am telling you
[05:29] <brian98> RandomChu, I think it's sudo apt-get install network-tools but I could be wrong
[05:29] <cd32fan> because it says i dont have control over the session...
[05:29] <cd32fan> im all ears
[05:29] <cd32fan> :)
[05:29] <kmon_> anyone knows is there anyway to reconfigure desktop settings to default?
[05:29] <cd32fan> really
[05:30] <kmon_> I'm messed my gconf
[05:30] <brian98> RandomChu, sudo apt-get install network-manager
[05:30] <kmon_> :(
[05:30] <brian98> sorry
[05:30] <tritium> cd32fan: then see my comments above
[05:31] <Aji-Dahaka> so my ubuntu started to act "different" after a dist-upgrade...for example, all of /dev is root-only 660
[05:31] <bushblows> when i try to add a new network user to a samba server i type, sudo smbpasswd -a system_username
[05:31] <zaydana> any idea why when I try to install php5-cli and php-pear, it tries to get them from the security.ubuntu.bleh repository ?
[05:31] <zaydana> its 404ing as well :-/
[05:31] <bushblows> then it asks for pass i give it then verify and it fails to write the pass
[05:31] <bushblows> what am i doing wrong
[05:32] <cd32fan> im going to lose all my information right?
[05:32] <cd32fan> darn
[05:32] <cd32fan> and i already had installed scorched3d
[05:32] <afaik> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[05:32] <afaik> "I can't believe my ears on the music i'm hearing... they are bleeding from the sounds of satan"
[05:33] <Aji-Dahaka> it appears to be related to this 2.6.17 kernel upgrade
[05:33] <Aji-Dahaka> anyone have any ideas what could have gone foul?
[05:33] <tritium> Aji-Dahaka: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[05:33] <Aji-Dahaka> thanks, tritium
[05:34] <Rookie-> !source.list
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source.list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Chu> brian98: Heh, I think that screwed up with qt4.
[05:34] <Rookie-> link to auto source.list anyone ?
[05:34] <jrib> !easysource
[05:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:34] <brian98> Chu, ?
[05:35] <Chu> No, nevermind, that was just me panicking.
[05:35] <Chu> I guess I'll switch back again. :/
[05:36] <spencer> Hello everyone?
[05:36] <Linuxactivist>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[05:36] <cd32fan> tritium:whe you say the are installer bugs,exactly problems can happen?
[05:36] <J-_> everytime i load an icon set in theme details it says; Could not load icon
[05:36] <J-_> Details: Icon 'x-directory-normal' not found
[05:36] <spencer> I've never used IIRC before, so.. I do need some help with a problem im having with GParter
[05:36] <cd32fan> tritium:you are right,and so was i,i have the 6.06 version
[05:36] <Rookie-> jrib - ty
[05:37] <jrib> Rookie-: np
[05:37] <jrib> spencer: hello, just ask your question.  If someone knows, they will try to help
[05:38] <cd32fan> tritium:since im going to do a fresh install,can you tell me if there is an ATi driver that works for the 9600 series?
[05:38] <spencer> okies.
[05:38] <IY1> if I have Windows installed on two partitions (C: and D:), can I still use the LiveCD to do a dual boot, or does the resize thing only work for one partition Windows installations
[05:38] <spencer> I have ubuntu 6.06 installed, with all the nice stuff I like.
[05:39] <jrib> that uses freenode?
[05:39] <spencer> I have ubuntu 6.06 installed, with all the nice stuff I like. I have XGL, and all the stuff I want. its running really well. Okay, so I want to install windows, because i really need to start editing video for a project. How do I install Windows ontop of Ubuntu, without ruining anything?
[05:40] <jrib> spencer: install it on its own partition.  It will be bad and take over the mbr.  So I will have the bot send you instructions on reinstalling grub afterwards
[05:40] <jrib> ubotu: tell spencer about grub
[05:40] <cd32fan> sorry for your trouble :)
[05:41] <spencer> hey, well. I tried resizing the Linux partition with the Live CD. no luck.
[05:41] <spencer> it just goes for like 3 hours.
[05:41] <spencer> and dosnt do anything.
[05:41] <tritium> cd32fan: sorry, I was away
[05:41] <babo> what's the ubuntu package with the compiler in it again ?
[05:41] <Linuxactivist> spencer, It is usually easier to do it the other way around.  Install Windows first and then install Linux.  Otherwise follow jrib's advice.  Windows always assumes that it is the only operating system installed and therefore will walk all over the Master Boot Record.  It is recoverable, though.
[05:42] <babo> build-developer or something like that ?
[05:42] <tritium> build-essential
[05:42] <babo> tritium: thanks
[05:42] <Linuxactivist> ubotu, what is grub
[05:42] <spencer> Well, If I install windows, will it not destory my Ubuntu install?
[05:42] <cd32fan> :D
[05:42] <Dr_willis> spencer,  it will overwite the grub boot loader.
[05:42] <tritium> cd32fan: yes, the fglrx or ati servers will both support your 9600
[05:42] <Dr_willis> but that can be replaced
[05:43] <tritium> !grub
[05:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:43] <noiesmo> cd32fan, I had 9700 ati using the fglrx drivers no probs even used it for xgl compiz now running nvidia though
[05:43] <spencer> Okay, so im not too savvy with the windows install procedure. I put the disk in. (is there a partition resizer inside of the install disk?)
[05:43] <cd32fan> tritium:this must explain why the ati drivers didnt work with 6.06,right?
[05:44] <tritium> cd32fan: I don't recall all the problems with the 6.06 installer, but it sounds like it failed you since not even xserver-xorg was install properly.  That has nothing to do with ati drivers.
[05:44] <cd32fan> noiesmo:thanks for the tip ;)
[05:45] <noiesmo> spencer, there is partitioner in windows install but I fear it will destroy your ubuntu install you really need to resize partition before install windows or add another hard drive
[05:45] <spencer> thats what I thought.
[05:45] <cd32fan> tritium:for the ppl who already have the 6.06 installed isnt there a way of doing an update instead of installing from scratch?
[05:46] <User38> Hi, the sound is suddenly stopped working today on my computer.
[05:46] <tritium> spencer: read that URL above.  you can install windows after ubuntu, and then recover it.
[05:46] <tritium> DHN_WP: it was just "suddenly", and not after an update or anything like that?
[05:46] <noiesmo> tritium, spencer is having problems resize his partiton
[05:47] <DHN_WP> tritium: I think I added a .rules file etc/udev/rules.d
[05:47] <Xavier101> i would like flash to work in opera as well
[05:47] <stlxv> install the official flash plugin
[05:47] <DHN_WP> trititum: I removed the file afterward, but it didn't fix the problem
[05:48] <Madpilot> c0s, easiest way to do it is just use the download from Macromedia/Adobe, it should detect all your installed browsers
[05:48] <seversky> ?
[05:48] <seversky> ls
[05:48] <c0s> stlxv, yea went to adobe and all it found was FF not opera
[05:49] <DHN_WP> Does anyone know how to get the sound to work again?
[05:49] <c0s> Madpilot, already had that half typed when you posted what you did
[05:49] <Madpilot> c0s, odd, when I ran it it found Opera fine. Check Opera's website, they've got a good section on plugins
[05:49] <FlyingSquirrell3> I have directions that tell me to install  gstreamer8.0-lame to record into mp3 format. what is the matching  package for gstreamer 10?
[05:49] <c0s> Madpilot,  ahh crap forgot bout that thanks
[05:49] <stlxv> c0s, does the installer ask you which browser to install?
[05:50] <cd32fan> okay,time for rest
[05:50] <cd32fan> tritium:thank you so much man
[05:50] <tritium> cd32fan: no problem
[05:51] <DHN_WP> The sound in my computer stopped working after I added a file to /etc/udev/rules.d and would still not work when I removed the file
[05:51] <c0s> stlxv, no it just shows FF
[05:52] <spencer> noiesmo, Im alittle worried about all this. So, the first thing I do. Is resize the linux partition with the windows disk?
[05:52] <spencer> Or is there something i can do, inside of Ubuntu?
[05:52] <c0s> found the link on opera thanks forgot they have those things there
[05:52] <noiesmo> spencer, if you do that you will destroy your linux install
[05:52] <Xavier101> c0s, what's the link?
[05:52] <spencer> noiesmo, okayyy... so I don
[05:52] <spencer> noiesmo, okayyy... so I don't want to do that *
[05:52] <c0s> Xavier101, http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/index.dml
[05:53] <Xavier101> c0s, thanks
[05:53] <spencer> noiesmo, so, why isnt the live CD doing it for me? Am I doing something wrong?
[05:53] <c0s> Xavier101, anytime
[05:53] <DHN_WP> is there some way to change the alsa settings?
[05:54] <noiesmo> spencer, not sure sorry
[05:54] <spencer> noiesmo, its cool.. It is kinda frustrating.
[05:55] <noiesmo> spencer, yeah would be :)
[05:55] <spencer> I do have a Kubuntu live CD. does KDE use different partitioning software?
[05:56] <shinobi2> is this command correct? "ls -al | less -R"  i have no color
[05:56] <noiesmo> spencer, might have qtparted on it but thats still gui for parted
[05:56] <shinobi2> is this command correct? "ls -al --color | less -R"  i have no color
[05:56] <Xavier101> c0s, i have flash installed, but it still doesn't work
[05:56] <stlxv> spencer, you can use any partitioning software
[05:56] <spencer> stlxv, do you reccomend anything.
[05:56] <stlxv> for example, fdisk
[05:56] <stlxv> :-)
[05:56] <spencer> fdisk?
[05:57] <spencer> is that on ubuntu to start?
[05:57] <stlxv> ?
[05:57] <spencer> this is all my first month of ubuntu.
[05:57] <stlxv> not understand...
[05:57] <c0s> Xavier101, not sure cause I got it working here
[05:57] <spencer> Is Fdisk preinstalled?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> fdisk is the old reliable standard 'text/console' tool :)
[05:57] <stlxv> fdisk is a classic partitioning software
[05:57] <spencer> is that the "disks manager"
[05:57] <Dr_willis> 'classic' :)
[05:57] <stlxv> i think so
[05:57] <spencer> ooh.
[05:57] <spencer> okay.
[05:58] <Xavier101> c0s, ok...dunno why mine doesn't work
[05:58] <stlxv> no
[05:58] <Xavier101> c0s, does adobe test site work for you?
[05:58] <c0s> Xavier101, yea
[05:58] <c0s> brb] 
[05:58] <DHN_WP> does Ubuntu have some "restore" utility like Windows Restore?
[05:58] <stlxv> or, attempt to find the partitioning software in the K menu
[05:58] <Xavier101> c0s, damn
[05:58] <zaydana> i've got a really weird problem... i'm in a directory with a file named "php" with execute priliveges. But when I do ./php, it tells me theres no such file or directory
[05:59] <spencer> Well, how about this. Is there anyway. I can copy this partition as a disk image. to another harddrive. and install windows. then restore that image to the drive in another partition?
[05:59] <zaydana> anybody got any ideas?
[05:59] <shinobi2> is this command correct? "tree /--color | less -R"  i have no color
[05:59] <mnepton> zaydana: php files are not exectuable by the shell. they need to be parsed by php.
[05:59] <Dr_willis>   / --color    ?? why the /
, you can use tar or dd to backup a partition
[06:00] <zaydana> mnepton - no, i'm tlaking about the php binary
[06:00] <zaydana> not an actual php file
[06:00] <spencer> hmmm
[06:00] <mnepton> zaydana: permissions on that file?
[06:00] <zaydana> 777
[06:00] <DHN_WP> stlxv: nah, I just want to back up certain system-specific files
[06:00] <zaydana> mnepton - even root can't run it
[06:01] <spencer>  *sigh* I guess. . .  I could just redo ubuntu all together...
[06:01] <noiesmo> spencer, you want to do video stuff in windows have you thought about using wine and linux based video editing
[06:01] <mnepton> zaydana: php itself is not a binary that runs. it parses script files. have you tried ./php ./foobar.php ?
[06:01] <stlxv> DHN_WP: use tar you can have a backup of any files, even special files
[06:01] <wastrel> zaydana:  file php
[06:01] <spencer> Yeah, I have. Wine dosnt really work well with adobie Premere
[06:01] <wastrel> or file ./php
[06:01] <zaydana> mnepton - yeah, just tried that. Didn't work.
[06:02] <noiesmo> spencer, aah k
[06:02] <DHN_WP> stlxv: so there's no automatic way to do backups
[06:02] <spencer> ive heard about a really good program. that people edit video on. . . oh well.
[06:02] <mnepton> zaydana: have you edited your php.conf file?
[06:02] <zaydana> another file in the same directory which is an executable won't execute either... that one is called "dialog"
[06:02] <mnepton> zaydana: where did you get PHP?
[06:02] <zaydana> mnepton - nah, that owuldn't help. This is a binary which is distributed with Zend Studio Server to run the install script
[06:02] <cafuego> spencer: yes, if you need Premire, use WIndows or OSX.
[06:02] <cafuego> spencer: You could try cinelerra...
[06:03] <wastrel> zaydana:   what does  file ./php   do?
[06:03] <zaydana> i've got standard php installed from the ubuntu repos as well...
[06:03] <mnepton> zaydana: oh sweet jebus. commerical vendor altered scripting enviroments. ick.
[06:03] <zaydana> wastrel - it seems to be a php-cli client
, I did that only by tar, I used it to backup a full system and restored it to another machine
[06:03] <xeruno> Hi every one, I have this question regarding the bug report process
[06:03] <spencer> Hey, I have an idea! Pretty much. the only thing I really want backed up. are these things.. I followed a tort that told em how to use a wide screen resolution (I have a wide screen monitor)
[06:03] <spencer> i think its called... Xconf?
[06:03] <spencer> no! Xorg.conf!
[06:03] <zaydana> mnepton - i've got it installed before... I just have not the slightest clue why bash can't even see the files :-/
[06:03] <spencer> I think...?
[06:03] <cafuego> spencer: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:04] <zaydana> bash tells me the files aren't found, so i'm thinking it can't see them for some reason
[06:04] <spencer> ...?
[06:04] <cafuego> spencer: Xorg.conf is just the config file.
[06:04] <mnepton> zaydana: so try zsh or something
[06:04] <noiesmo> spencer, hers a couple video editing links http://wiki.pitivi.org/wiki/Downloads#Ubuntu  & http://www.reimeika.ca/lives/lives_guide.html  &
[06:04] <zaydana> zsh
[06:04] <wastrel> zaydana:  is it bash that's giving you that output or the executable you're running?
[06:04] <zaydana> woops, wrong window
[06:04] <zaydana> wastrel - how could I tell the difference?
[06:04] <Linuxactivist> How many of you guys answer the support questions on Launchpad's support site?
[06:04] <spencer> cafuego, I know that. Can I just burn that to a CD. reinstall Ubuntu, and replace it the burned one
[06:05] <cafuego> Linuxactivist: Sorry, that is a paid-support only question.
[06:05] <stlxv> DHN_WP: I think, not like Windows, only the kernel(only a file) is required in Linux
[06:05] <DHN_WP> Is it possible to restore Ubuntu to its default settings?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:05] <zaydana> wastrel - the "not found" is in the same format as one that actually isn't there, so I guess bash
[06:05] <Linuxactivist> ha ha.
[06:05] <stlxv> yes
[06:05] <Dr_willis> DHN_WP,   depends on which settings. :P
[06:05] <cafuego> spencer: Sure... or email it to your gmail account of somesuch or use a floppy or usb key (waste of a cd otherwise)
[06:05] <DHN_WP> stlxv: That's the problem...I got no idea what to back up
[06:05] <stlxv> you can backup anytime and restore it anytime
[06:05] <xeruno> Where i should report the bugs? I mean, If i using Edgy and i found a bug at some libray example gtk, should I use Malone or go directly to Gnome Bugzilla?    I mean how updated is the Edgy version of Gnome componets in comparision of the actual version on the CVS?
[06:05] <DHN_WP> stlvx: Now my sound stopped working
[06:05] <spencer> im guessing i cant backup my XGL and Compiz settings tho.
[06:06] <cafuego> xeruno: Just sue malone, the maintainer will move it up the tree if needed.
[06:06] <ubuntu_> damn, ubuntu crashed
[06:06] <noiesmo> spencer, you could back up your users home directory
[06:06] <spencer> Ohhh!
[06:06] <Linuxactivist> just curios.  I hang out there a lot.
[06:06] <spencer> Good Idea.
[06:06] <ubuntu_> lost all changes
[06:06] <spencer> Is that all that I would have to do?
[06:06] <stlxv> if you want to backup just only your user own settings, just backup your home directory
[06:06] <ubuntu_> im using the live CD, will it keep all changes and updates after I shut down?
[06:06] <cafuego> spencer: I usually copy /etc and /home, as well as the output of 'dpkg --get-selections'.
[06:06] <DHN_WP> I notice that when I'm playing vlc and then close it, it keeps playing in the background, and there's no way to open the window
[06:07] <stlxv> or, global settings are in the /etc directory
[06:07] <noiesmo> spencer, well that say your user setting etc but any thing like xorg.conf etc will need to be done maybe even your sources.list if moded
[06:07] <spencer> yeah, all that is changed.
[06:07] <spencer> could I just like.
[06:07] <spencer> back up my Filesystem.
[06:07] <xeruno> cafuego, I used to report bugs on Gnome Bugzilla as well, I'm just asking the path in Ubuntu
[06:07] <Dr_willis> DHN_WP,  ive noticed that when vlc crashes..  but not at any other time
[06:07] <noiesmo> cafuego spot on didnt think of dpkg nice
[06:07] <stlxv> hehe, you can backup all the file system
[06:08] <Parisi> Sup people
[06:08] <spencer> and, ubuntu will let me replace the entire filesystem with my back up?
[06:08] <DHN_WP> Dr_willis: how do you know it crashed if it keeps playing?
[06:08] <cafuego> xeruno: Like I said, if needed a maintainer will notify upstream.
[06:08] <Xavier101> c0s, does mplayer work for ur opera?
[06:08] <c0s> Xavier101, no it shows loading but get sound but no vid
[06:09] <Xavier101> o
[06:09] <stlxv> spencer, yes
[06:09] <stlxv> spencer, that's so easy, just restore it
[06:09] <spencer> Great!
[06:09] <stlxv> Linux like DOS, only the files
[06:09] <DHN_WP> is there some utility that comes with Ubuntu that lets me change the sound settings? it stopped setting on my computer
[06:09] <DHN_WP> stopped working
[06:10] <Jeremy23> Is there anyone I can talk to about updating the Rhythmbox help for Edgy?
[06:10] <noiesmo> Jeremy23, try join #ubuntu+1 is edgy help
[06:10] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[06:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:11] <Jeremy23> noiesmo: thanks
[06:11] <noiesmo> np Jeremy23
[06:11] <lanteau> what X.org driver do I want to use with my ATI Rage3D Pro?
[06:11] <hidden_> I have a problem
[06:11] <AJ--> hello need help here.. im running ubuntu with nvidia video card..gforce4mx440 .. my problem is.. i cant run on high resolution.. it only sets to 800x600... how can i change it..??
[06:12] <Jeremy23> lanteau: "ati".
[06:12] <Jeremy23> lanteau: try running in 16-bit colour
[06:12] <lanteau> Jeremy23: will that allow me to change refresh rates and such
[06:12] <ClayG> whats the command to see all processes? ps -au?
[06:12] <krystoff> hi there i'm trying to install 3D accel with an  Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML ... any hint or link please... i ve googled it a lot but many false results
[06:12] <ClayG> or -aux ? what is the difference?
[06:12] <stlxv> AJ--, install the nvidia driver
[06:13] <hidden_> I installed the mplayer plugin for firefox with easy ubuntu, but it does not work, says something about not being able to reach esd server
[06:13] <noiesmo> AJ--, you may need to add settings for your monitor to xorg.conf
[06:14] <ClayG> anyone able/willing ot help me with tor?
[06:14] <noiesmo> AJ--, i have this in my monitor section of xorg.conf for my benq 772 17inch         HorizSync       30-72        VertRefresh     50-120
[06:15] <noiesmo> AJ--, but check your monitors requirements before setting
[06:15] <lanteau> could I use the DRI driver with the rage3d pro?
[06:16] <ubuntu_> how do I install ubuntu using the live CD
[06:16] <DHN_WP> Dr_willis: thanks
[06:17] <Sonic|Laptop> ubuntu_, click the install icon
[06:17] <DHN_WP> Dr_willis: looks like PCM was muted for some reason
[06:17] <stlxv> ubuntu_, then follow the instructions
[06:17] <THX-1138> always check your monitor specs. - you can find them on the fcc.goc site get the fcc ID from the device.
[06:17] <hidden_> I installed the mplayer plugin for firefox with easy ubuntu, but it does not work, says something about not being able to connect to esd_open_sound server: connect rest by peer
[06:17] <Dr_willis> DHN_WP,  i got an Audigy2 card with like 100 sliders/mixers. :P it gets confisung at times
[06:17] <ubuntu_> install icon?
[06:17] <ubuntu_> cant see it
[06:18] <ubuntu_> unless my version doesnt come with it
[06:18] <krystoff> which version ubuntu_ ?
[06:18] <krystoff> of ubuntu
[06:18] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  the lastest live cds have an install icon/program
[06:18] <Seq> has anybody had this issue before: gpg: can't connect to `/home/chris/.gnome2/seahorse-kzKeZo/S.gpg-agent': connect failed
[06:18] <ubuntu_> 5.1
[06:19] <timalot> hi, anyone know how to set the terminal font back to normal ... after it goes all to symbols?
[06:19] <ClayG> hey
[06:19] <krystoff> that's why ... use the install cd or the latest version
[06:19] <krystoff> ubuntu_, the 6.06
[06:19] <ClayG> whats the "right" way to start tor and privoxy?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> 5.1 is like.. real real old. :)
[06:19] <ubuntu_> damnit. lol... im screwed now.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> ClayG,  they should startup as services on boot time
[06:20] <ClayG> Dr_willis, ok but lets pretend that they dont, what is the correct way to start them?>
[06:20] <stlxv> ubuntu_, 5.1 has a single install cd
[06:20] <ubuntu_> got 8 ubuntu 5.1 CDs, just is fine, all others are bad
[06:20] <Dr_willis> ClayG,  err.. add them to the services.. :)
[06:20] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[06:20] <ubuntu_> the only CD that works is a live one
[06:20] <ubuntu_> well...
[06:20] <ubuntu_> seems that Ill have to download it
[06:21] <Dr_willis> by the time you get the free cd's a new version is out. :)
[06:21] <ClayG> Dr_willis, Ok, I will consider that fix.  Looking to see the correct way to call them from the command line
[06:21] <mnepton> ubuntu_: when you burn the .iso images burn tham at <8x speed
[06:21] <Dr_willis> ClayG,  fix? are they broken? they worked for me last time i tried them
[06:21] <ubuntu_> 8x?
[06:21] <mnepton> or less than
[06:22] <ClayG> Dr_willis, surely you have seen/heard of something working for one person and not for another?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Ive never understood why that speed matters.
[06:22] <ubuntu_> faster than 8x will produce bad copies?
[06:22] <stlxv> ubuntu_, 6.10 will come on 27th this month
[06:22] <DHN_WP> !google
[06:22] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[06:22] <mnepton> ubuntu_: it's more likely to, for sure.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> ClayG,  in  Ubuntu thats rare.   if you installed the packages then they should of installed the server/rc/ files as well to start theirselfs.
[06:22] <ClayG> Dr_willis, it's one of those things hard to explain the whys.  Just need to know the hows
[06:22] <stlxv> ubuntu_, i burnt the cd in 40x
[06:23] <hidden_> I can't see the sound card!
[06:23] <Dr_willis> ClayG,  ive seen a few tor howtos/guides on the net.
[06:23] <ClayG> Dr_willis, I agree , it should be started when the system does
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I found tor a neat idea.. but lacking in ways. :()
[06:23] <Dr_willis> !tor
[06:23] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[06:23] <mnepton> ClayG: invoke-rc.d and update-rc.d are what you want
[06:24] <ClayG> mnepton, awsome, I was thinking that was it
[06:24] <ClayG> but get this error when invoking
[06:24] <hidden_> how can I let all users see the sound card?
[06:24] <ClayG> mnepton, http://pastebin.ca/202138 - what do you make of that?
[06:25] <mnepton> you have a config file issue, it seems
[06:25] <mnepton> does TOR start when executed without invoke-rc.d?
[06:26] <wabbit> could somebody point me to some documentation
[06:26] <Dr_willis> http://tldp.org
[06:26] <Dr_willis> lots of docs there
[06:26] <mnepton> wabbit: http://en.wikipedia.org
[06:26] <wabbit> on how to configure the mic on dapper
[06:26] <wabbit> hehe
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Oh.. it was a 2 parter.. :)
[06:27] <mnepton> wabbit: go adjust the sound levels. the mic is on, but muted.
[06:27] <ClayG> mnepton, as in just typing tor at the cli?
[06:27] <mnepton> ClayG: yup, with sudo
[06:27] <ClayG> same errror
[06:27] <goofy> im tring to install 3D Xgl Compiz and keep getting this error :      Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  compiz-plugins: Depends: compiz-core (>= 0
[06:27] <goofy> be installed                  Depends: csm (>= 0.5) but it is not installable E: Broken packages
[06:27] <wabbit> the alsamixer does not shows mic but
[06:27] <ClayG> looks like it is in torrc
[06:27] <wabbit> no level indicated
[06:27] <ClayG> i think yer right
[06:27] <mnepton> ClayG: then the problem is not with invoke-rc.d, but you need to edit config files to get things set up
[06:27] <wabbit> it's enabled in kmix
[06:28] <ClayG> mnepton, you got one i can borrow, a torrc?
[06:28] <hidden_> how do I add a user to a group?
[06:28] <mnepton> ClayG: i don't use TOR
[06:28] <wabbit> neither can i record something using soundrecorder
[06:28] <mnepton> hidden_: man useradd
[06:28] <wabbit> is there a howto documentation on mic configuration
[06:29] <mckinnoj> guys i have a quick question
[06:29] <mckinnoj> i'm SSHing from my friends computer to my computer....so right now i'm logged on to my computer in the terminal...how do i copy a file from my computer to his?
[06:29] <phargle> scp
[06:30] <Sonic|Laptop> you'd probably want to use scp
[06:30] <mckinnoj> i am physically on his computer logged in to my computer
[06:30] <Sonic|Laptop> use scp, or use ftp to upload to a site you own, if you have one
[06:30] <mckinnoj> well it says the directory doesnt exist
[06:30] <mckinnoj> i'm typing this:
[06:30] <Sonic|Laptop> That's not good
[06:30] <wastrel> scp local_file user@remote.host:
[06:30] <BeepAU> hey guys, i try to load my system and get this error...
[06:30] <BeepAU> [17179577.348000]  ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1]  C2[C2]  C3[C3] )
[06:30] <BeepAU> it gets to that line and just stops
[06:31] <BeepAU> can anyone help me fix it?
[06:31] <mckinnoj> scp FILENAME HISPC/home/username
[06:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> Is there a terminal command you can type to configure a wireless network card?
[06:31] <mckinnoj> that shouuld work right....i'm logged in to my computer on his terminal
[06:31] <wastrel> scp local_file user@remote.host:
[06:31] <Sonic|Laptop> jUggERNAUt1980, man iwconfig
[06:32] <jUggERNAUt1980> ok, thanks
[06:32] <Sonic|Laptop> mhm
[06:32] <mckinnoj> wastrel, its the other way around....i want to transfer the remote file on to his local computer
[06:32] <blind> I need to edit a short avi video, what can I use to do it? I tried avidemux but all the frames show up green..
[06:32] <wastrel> mckinnoj:  the terminal you're logged into is the "local" system
[06:32] <THX-1138> kino??
[06:32] <goofy> anyone know a good guide to install xlg ang compiz
[06:32] <blind> goofy: compiz is dead.
[06:32] <blind> !beryl
[06:32] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[06:32] <wastrel> mckinnoj:  is your frien'ds computer running an ssh server?
[06:33] <mckinnoj> wastrel, yes both of us are....what is remote.host?
[06:34] <wastrel> the hostname or ip address of the computer you want to copy the file to
[06:35] <wizard> so maybe now someone can help me begin to trouble shoot my kubuntu install with nvidia. The drivers install and function just fine... until you reboot... in which, they stop wroking, and it locks up on hte kubuntu splash screen.
[06:35] <Arigato> does anyone know if gFTP automatically switches between ASCII and binary?
[06:36] <blind> THX-1138: kino deals with .DV files, I can't get the avi imported...
[06:36] <dorto> Is there no way to remove all the games installed by default in ubuntu? when I tried to uninstall gnome-games, it is marking ubuntu-desktop also for removal!
[06:36] <wizard> now I've heard kubuntu has a bad configuration file somewhere in it that causes problems like this.
[06:36] <THX-1138> wizard - did you install the driver from the nvidia site?
[06:36] <THX-1138> blind - ok,
[06:37] <Dr_willis> dorto,  so remove ubuntu-desktop then. its just a meta-package
[06:37] <blind> dorto: you can uninstall ubuntu-desktop, it's just a meta file. make sure you reinstall it.
[06:37] <dorto> Dr_willis, oh, so the gnome desktop still remains?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> reinstall it befor doing  system upgrades
[06:37] <Dr_willis> i feel they got way too much stuff in the default ubuntu-desktop
[06:37] <dorto> ok, I will reinstall it then. thanks :)
[06:37] <blind> Any other good video editors anyone knows about?
[06:38] <tritium> blind: kino
[06:38] <blind> tritium: kino deals with .dv files, i can't get my .avi imported x_x
[06:38] <lanteau_> How would I go about using the dri driver for X.Org?
[06:38] <THX-1138> tritium - echo jinx! - lol
[06:38] <tritium> ;)
[06:39] <Dr_willis> blind,  i cant either
[06:39] <blind> Oh, I just found a *great* website.
[06:39] <blind> http://linuxappfinder.com
[06:39] <brian98> blind, avidemux
[06:40] <brian98> blind, and tovid
[06:40] <dorto> Is there any tool for ubuntu that can convert my encrypted DVDs to AVI/XViD? I have libsomethingcss2 library installed and can view encrypted DVDs.
[06:40] <blind> brian98: when i use avidemux, I get all green frames
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !info dvdrip
[06:40] <brian98> dorto, avidemux
[06:40] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[06:40] <dorto> brian98, thx, will google for it
[06:41] <RnB-Tunes> hello
[06:41] <dorto> dvdrip only converts to VOB format right?
[06:41] <RnB-Tunes> www.tunes.dl.am - RnB & HipHop Tracks to Download! Check this baby...
[06:41] <RnB-Tunes> www.tunes.dl.am - RnB & HipHop Tracks to Download! Check this baby...
[06:41] <RnB-Tunes> www.tunes.dl.am - RnB & HipHop Tracks to Download! Check this baby...
[06:41] <dorto> SPAM!
[06:41] <brian98> !spam
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <brian98> lol
[06:41] <ladydoor> too late...the bot escaped
[06:42] <THX-1138> !spam is A tasty highly seasoned ham product.
[06:42] <mckinnoj> wastrel, so this is what i am typing : sudo scp File user@ipaddress /home/
[06:43] <efrancolaporte> hey
[06:43] <mckinnoj> wastrel, i thought this would copy it in his home directory....it seems like something happens but when i check the directory it is empty
[06:43] <wastrel> almost.   and you shouldn't need sudo unless you don't have read perms on the file.
[06:43] <efrancolaporte> does anyone know a commant for emptying the trash as root
[06:43] <wastrel> scp File user@ipaddress:
[06:43] <efrancolaporte> without graphically login in as root
[06:43] <wastrel> :   is the filename - homedir is the default so you don't need anything else.
[06:44] <mckinnoj> so when i did sudo scp FILE user@ipaddress there was nothing in the home folder?
[06:44] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: sudo rm ~/.Trash/*
[06:45] <efrancolaporte> thanks ladydoor
[06:45] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: or just use rm in the first place instead of moving things to the trash
[06:45] <YBH_1> I have installed a new network card in Ubuntu 6.06, however Ubuntu attempts to install eth0 using the old device and finally installs eth1 after about five minutes. How do I remove the old device from the startup?
[06:45] <wizard> ah
[06:45] <mckinnoj> got it
[06:45] <tritium> YBH_1: eth0 should _not_ be set to "auto" in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:46] <YBH_1> TU
[06:46] <tritium> THX-1138: (this setting can be changed with the gui, or by editing the file
[06:46] <efrancolaporte> it says it cant because theres a directory in the trash.... whats the command to remove directories?
[06:46] <ubuntu_> is ubuntu upgradeable by download?
[06:46] <blind> Trying cinelerra now..
[06:46] <THX-1138> tritium - I missed what you said. - say again?
[06:47] <timo> how do I get my DVD drive to appeear on the desktop?
[06:47] <tritium> THX-1138: regarding what?
[06:47] <THX-1138> Okay. NVM. - ;)
[06:48] <blind> Does anyone know how to install codecs into cinelerra? I can play the video in mplayer, but cinelerra won't open it?
[06:48] <efrancolaporte> how do you remove directories
[06:48] <blind> rm -rf foo/
[06:48] <Dr_willis> rmdir, or rm -rf
[06:48] <maquis> rmdir or rm -rf
[06:48] <Dr_willis> !bash
[06:48] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:49] <justin420> hi all. anybody help with telling snort what ports i would like it to watch? i have edited my /etc/snort/snort.conf file; but I believe that did not do the trick.  http://pastebin.com/806183 is my current snort.conf file.
[06:49] <efrancolaporte> how do you remove folders?
[06:49] <efrancolaporte> from the terminal
[06:49] <Dr_willis> a folder IS a directory
[06:49] <quandar> efrancolaporte: rmdir
[06:49] <efrancolaporte> thank you!
[06:49] <maquis> has anybody else here had problems with convert recently?  for me, it's complaining about a missing .la file when i try to run convert -rotate, and a friend just had the exact same problem with a fresh install of imagemagick.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> blame MS for mixxuping the terms. :)
[06:50] <quandar> efrancola: rmdir -rf is probably the better idea to get rid of the entire directory
[06:50] <quandar> hehe
[06:50] <maquis> THX-1138: s/Debian/gentoo and you've got it
[06:50] <quandar> Slackware probably wouldnt be too bad on a 166 THX-1138
[06:50] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: if you're careful, that is
[06:51] <efrancolaporte> yeah i know but it was too late
[06:51] <THX-1138> maquis - Ok. i'm game.
[06:51] <efrancolaporte> thanks i figured it out now
[06:51] <ubuntu_> hey
[06:51] <maquis> THX-1138: once you get gentoo installed on there, you're good... but that could take a couple months
[06:51] <ubuntu_> upgrading my distro from 5.1 to 6.x will take less time than downloading and burning the ISO, wont it?
[06:52] <THX-1138> maquis - terminal prompt and a prayer.
[06:52] <maquis> convert -rotate -90 IMG_0012.JPG IMG_0012.JPG-rotated
[06:52] <maquis> convert: unable to open module file `/usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.4/modules-Q16/coders/jpg-rotated.la': No such file or directory.
[06:52] <quandar> ubuntu_: probably
[06:52] <maquis> has anybody seen that before?
[06:52] <mckinnoj> ls
[06:52] <quandar> ubuntu_: I just upgraded from Dapper to Edgy tonight, and it took about an hour and 20 minutes
[06:53] <J-_> was it worth it?
[06:53] <quandar> J-_: was what worth it
[06:53] <Lanrat> hi
[06:53] <ubuntu_> im using live, hmm... I might be able to upgrade it to 6.x and the install icon might pop up in my desktop
[06:53] <J-_> installing edgy
[06:53] <efrancolaporte> oh my got it takes forever
[06:54] <MrKinky> has anyone been able to get itunes+ipod updater working on ubuntu?
[06:54] <quandar> J-_: Well, I am having a problem getting my extra drive to mount, and fglrx is being kind of hard to configure, but that was to be expected
[06:54] <quandar> J-_: otherwise its not too hard
[06:54] <MrKinky> i want to do a migration to ubuntu but i don't want to have a load of problems when i try to sync my ipod.
[06:54] <MrKinky> so really, i'm just wondering if anyone has been able to get it working flawlessly without a load of dirty hacks
[06:54] <quandar> MrKinky: I had the iPodUpdater working, but I rather chose to extract the binaries from it and put them directly on the iPods partitions
[06:55] <efrancolaporte> allright its done thanks
[06:55] <MrKinky> quandar: sorry man, i'm not too sure what you're driving at. is there a link you could point me to for futher reading or something?
[06:55] <efrancolaporte> hey anyone of you might know why the spellcheck doesnt activate in Open Office?
[06:55] <efrancolaporte> even though I chosed the language & stuff in the settings
[06:55] <J-_> !edgy
[06:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:55] <host`> how do you untar a tar.bz2 to the folder that it specifies to be unzipped?
[06:56] <ArtVandalae> Hi... according to Plant Gaim, Gaim 2.0 beta 4 is coming out this week... is it likely that Ubuntu 6.10 will ship with this version or will it ship with Gaim 2.0 beta 3.1?
[06:56] <quandar> MrKinky: I think I used this one http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Update_iPod_Firmware
[06:56] <ArtVandalae> Ah thanks, so off to ubuntu+1 :D
[06:56] <MrKinky> quandar: aye, thanks.
[06:56] <quandar> MrKinky: The instructions werent hard to convert from Gentoo to Ubuntu
[06:57] <MrKinky> quandar: yep, i was a gen2 user.
[06:57] <quandar> MrKinky: I have friends that were, I personally never have used it
[06:57] <MrKinky> quandar: btw, have you had any chance bypassing the itunes thing of having to delete your entire playlist on your ipod because you changed your box or something?
[06:58] <MrKinky> quandar: i'm not too keen on having to refind, download and reupdate the pod.
[06:58] <wizard> !nvidia
[06:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:58] <quandar> MrKinky: I have just been using GtkPod for my iPod song uploading needs
[06:58] <goofy>  if i were to type: sudo gedit     a text editor should open right?
[06:58] <sproingie> ArtVandalae: i doubt that edgy will be updating versions of much of anything this close to release
[06:58] <sproingie> ArtVandalae: especially a beta
[06:59] <ladydoor> goofy: actually, you should use gksudo (or kdesu) for a graphical program like gedit
[06:59] <goofy> ok thanks
[06:59] <MrKinky> one sec.
[06:59] <MrKinky> checking it out
[06:59] <ladydoor> goofy: sudo nano -w, however, would open a simple console text editor.
[06:59] <MrKinky> i really hate to lose the amount of songs i have.
[07:00] <quandar> MrKinky: Do you not have them backed up onto your computer?
[07:00] <efrancolaporte> crossover is a piece of junk it cant install sucessfully
[07:01] <MrKinky> quandar: i do. i intend to wipe this entire hdd out to put ubuntu on it
[07:01] <sproingie> i wish the system had enough intelligence for sudo to DTRT with gui apps
[07:01] <efrancolaporte> and it doesnt tell you why
[07:01] <maquis> can anyone help with my convert problem?
[07:01] <quandar> MrKinky: Perhaps you should convert your iPod to disk mode and dump all the raw files onto your iPod and then extract them when you are on Ubuntu
[07:02] <quandar> maquis: convert problem?
[07:02] <maquis> quandar: [amon-re italy]  convert -rotate -90 IMG_0012.JPG IMG_0012.JPG-rotated
[07:02] <maquis> convert: unable to open module file `/usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.4/modules-Q16/coders/jpg-rotated.la': No such file or directory.
[07:02] <MrKinky> quandar: i could as well.
[07:02] <arakn0> hello
[07:02] <goofy> what could carse this error: (gedit:9834): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:02] <maquis> quandar: i've talked to oter people who also do not have that file, but can convert just fine
[07:02] <host`> if I do 'cp -r usr /' would that overwrite the /usr directory that I already have?
[07:03] <MrKinky> thanks for the headsup guys.
[07:03] <arakn0> how can i add a new rsa key into known_host ssh config file????
[07:03] <MrKinky> i'll see what i can get done.
[07:03] <MrKinky> ~
[07:03] <maquis> quandar: although, one person i talked to tried installing imagemagick fresh on their computer, and then it wouldn't work anymore
[07:03] <host`> anyone know?
[07:03] <Omicron> Morning all.
[07:03] <quandar> Are you using a new system? As in, fresh install maquis
[07:03] <efrancolaporte> i need help
[07:04] <quandar> *recent fresh install
[07:04] <maquis> quandar: yeah... pretty fresh
[07:04] <efrancolaporte> open office spellcheck doesnt work
[07:04] <maquis> < 3 weeks old
[07:04] <efrancolaporte> and i looked through the entire manual
[07:04] <ladydoor> host`: a) you should do cp -a. second, you should sudo. third, it would overwrite any files in your /usr that were duplicates
[07:04] <efrancolaporte> i cant find why
[07:04] <quandar> maquis: when you are in Synaptic are there any other versions offered for imagemagik
[07:04] <maquis> quandar: i'm pretty new to ubuntu... decided to give it a try because i'm tired of freebsd
[07:04] <host`> thanks ladydoor
[07:04] <efrancolaporte> open office spellcheck works in documents that i created in windows
[07:04] <maquis> quandar: i just saw the one that i chose in aptitude
[07:04] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: are aspell/ispell installed?
[07:04] <SuperMiguel> i have an old pc like a pIII 800 mGHZ
[07:04] <SuperMiguel> 256 RAM
[07:05] <efrancolaporte> but not in new documents i create from open office
[07:05] <maquis> quandar: let me check synaptic to see if it shows better
[07:05] <SuperMiguel> will ubuntu run fast on it?
[07:05] <ClayG> mnepton, can you check this out boss? http://pastebin.ca/202178
[07:05] <efrancolaporte> yea aspel and ispel are installed
[07:05] <Omicron> Dapper Drake user, Gnome interface - looking for what i need to download and install to play chess against the computer.
[07:05] <ClayG> tell me what I'm doing wrong? I remember a year ago I had to chmod something, i think lol not sure
[07:05] <quandar> maquis: check if it offers a "force version" offer and has multiple versions
[07:05] <maquis> quandar: i only see one version offered
[07:05] <efrancolaporte> and spellcheck seems to be activated in the tools/options... panel
[07:05] <maquis> quandar: where would that option be located?
[07:06] <efrancolaporte> yet it detects no mistakes
[07:06] <efrancolaporte> except if i load microsoft documents from windows
[07:06] <dorto> when I am trying to reinstall ubuntu-desktop(as just now suggested), it is again prompting to install gnome-games! Is there no way to remove gnome-games?
[07:06] <SuperMiguel> whi ois the lighter desktop manager_
[07:06] <quandar> maquis: have you tried doing a "complete removal" as in a "sudo apt-get --purge remove imagemagik". The menu option for Force Version is under Package>Force Version
[07:06] <maquis> quandar: under versions, i see 6:6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0.2 and 6:6.2.4.5-0.6
[07:06] <SuperMiguel> which is the lighter desktop manager
[07:07] <ladydoor> dorto: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package that depends on a bunch of pre-selected packages.
[07:07] <maquis> i have the one with ubuntu in the name... should i try the other one?
[07:07] <quandar> maquis: perhaps you should try whatever version you are not using right now
[07:09] <maquis> quandar: ok
[07:09] <maquis> i'll try that
[07:09] <maquis> thanks
[07:09] <quandar> no problem, tell me if it works maquis
[07:09] <skoger> i need download edgy eft ?
[07:09] <CorpseFeeder> searching the ubunutu wiki is dead slow/worse than useless (as usual). Can someone provide me with a link to the wiki page about restricted codecs?
[07:09] <skoger> beta
[07:09] <dorto> ladydoor: yeah. people here had asked me to remove it with gnome-games and then reinstall it so that future upgrades don't suffer
[07:09] <SuperMiguel> !outoftopic
[07:09] <Flannel> !tell CorpseFeeder about restricted
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about outoftopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <dorto> ladydoor: is there no need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop metapackage now?
[07:09] <SuperMiguel> !out off topic
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about out off topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <maquis> quandar: looks like it's still having the same problem
[07:09] <Omicron> Well, thanks anyway.
[07:09] <Flannel> SuperMiguel: offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:09] <ladydoor> dorto: only when you dist-upgrade
[07:09] <ladydoor> dorto: other than that, it doesn't matter
[07:09] <ladydoor> !offtopic
[07:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:09] <skoger> i need download edgy eft ?
[07:09] <Flannel> skoger: You want to?  and are looking for a URL? or are you asking us if you need to?
[07:10] <quandar> maquis: try doing a "sudo apt-get --purge remove imagemagik" and then a "sudo apt-get install imagemagik" (I do not know if "imagemagik is the proper name ofr that package")
[07:10] <dorto> ladydoor: so I should reinstall it(and hence gnome-games too) before doing dist-upgrade and then remove it(to remove gnome-games) after the upgrade?
[07:10] <quandar> *"imagemagik" is the proper name for that package
[07:10] <sproingie> imagemagick i believe
[07:10] <Flannel> dorto: yes
[07:10] <ladydoor> dorto: yup! if you remove gnome-games after the upgrade it'll remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:10] <ladydoor> (again
[07:10] <ladydoor> )
[07:10] <sproingie> just use aptitude and search for it
[07:10] <Linuxactivist> anybody know how to disable usb ports from the command line?
[07:11] <Linuxactivist> and then re-enable them?
[07:11] <sproingie> you could try removing the device node
[07:11] <dorto> ladydoor: ok, thanks!
[07:11] <maquis> quandar: purged
[07:11] <ladydoor> dorto: np
[07:11] <coulix>  i m playing doom3 under ubuntu  but in windowed mod the mouse doent want to get out of the doom3 window. so i cant switch to other app, any idea of how to solve this ?
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[07:11] <foglight> oh sorry!
[07:11] <quandar> maquis: hopefully the removal of all its config files will fix this
[07:11] <sproingie> foglight:  you okay there buddy?
[07:12] <maquis> quandar: when i re-install, i still get the same problem
[07:12] <quandar> maquis: Odd... I wonder if the package has a recent update that is known to be a bug
[07:13] <maquis> quandar: i dunno
[07:13] <pradeep> how do i disable gnome splash from command line?
[07:13] <maquis> it'd be nice to be able to roll-back if that's true
[07:13] <killown> prciso de uma ajuda
[07:13] <ladydoor> pradeep: do you mean gdm?
[07:13] <quandar> maquis: Are you using Dapper? or Edgy out of curiosity
[07:13] <pradeep> ladydoor: yep, the login screen
[07:13] <dorto> can i upgrade from Dapper to Edgy using Edgy alternate cd?(without using internet for eg)
[07:13] <maquis> quandar: dapper, i think
[07:13] <Flannel> dorto: yes
[07:14] <wikijeff> How do I install the shockwave player for firefox????
[07:14] <ladydoor> pradeep: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[07:14] <dorto> Flannel: any wiki page for the procedure?
[07:14] <Flannel> dorto: just add the cdrom to your repository... Um, let me look.
[07:14] <maquis> quandar: i did a server-install and added stuff from there, if that makes a difference
[07:14] <Milchmann> fsck -n tells me that there are a couple of errors on my root & home partitions. what should i do next? is there a option for "scan & repair at next boot"? oder do i have to use a live-cd?
[07:14] <dorto> Flannel: then dist-upgrade?
[07:14] <ladydoor> pradeep: and if for some weird reason you wanted to boot to GDM again you could do sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults
[07:14] <wastrel> hi
[07:14] <quandar> maquis: hmm... you could compile and make your own package
[07:14] <quandar> quandar: its easy to do with checkinstall
[07:14] <pradeep> ladydoor: thanks i'll try that :)
[07:15] <efrancolaporte> yo how do i enable spellcheck in open office it doesnt work
[07:15] <dorto> Milchmann: you can use "Recovery Mode" boot menu option instead of a livecd
[07:15] <efrancolaporte> it only works when it has already been enabled on a file by windows
[07:15] <ladydoor> pradeep: cool. i assume you know startx is the command to, well, start x
[07:15] <Flannel> dorto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[07:15] <Milchmann> dorot, can i use fsck on my root partition when in recovery mode?
[07:15] <maquis> quandar: i'll look into how to do that
[07:15] <maquis> thanks for the help
[07:15] <Flannel> dorto: there's a section in there re: alternate.  Yeah, basically, just apt-cdrom and dist upgrade (make sure you have your appropriate -desktop meta package)
[07:16] <efrancolaporte> Help?????
[07:16] <jkcashin> Is it OK to just jump in here and ask for help, or should I somehow queu up?
[07:16] <dorto> Flannel: great! never knew the page covers the cdrom option too :) thx
[07:16] <Vuen> what's up #ubuntu, i'm having trouble running dosemu
[07:16] <maquis> efrancolaporte: what?
[07:16] <efrancolaporte> why doesnt my spellcheck work unless i create a .doc from windows
[07:16] <maquis> huh?
[07:16] <Vuen> i ran: sudo apt-get install dosemu dosemu-freedos xfonts-dosemu
[07:16] <Milchmann> just ask jkcashin
[07:16] <maquis> in openoffice?
[07:16] <quandar> maquis: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/install-source.php#unix just skip "make install" and do a "sudo apt-get install checkinstall" and a "checkisntall" and it should guide you from there
[07:16] <efrancolaporte> open office doesnt enable spellcheck on files it creates
[07:16] <Vuen> but when i run dosemu, i get an error about page file something
[07:16] <Vuen> what's the deal?
[07:16] <maquis> quandar: thanks
[07:16] <efrancolaporte> it only has spellcheck on files created by microsoft office
[07:16] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: try installing abiword and see if the spellcheck in that works.
[07:16] <Linuxactivist> wikijeff, there is no shockwave player for linux... just flash
[07:17] <tritium> quandar: imagemagick is in the repos
[07:17] <efrancolaporte> why does the spellcheck works for windows files in open office then
[07:17] <tritium> !repeat
[07:17] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:17] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: *shrug*.
[07:17] <quandar> tritium: yes, but her appaers to a have a problem with the version in it
[07:17] <jkcashin> Milchmann, thanks. I have a fresh install of Ubuntu, never used it before, complete Ubuntu noob, but been using Linux for years...
[07:17] <quandar> *appears
[07:17] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: and if you're responding to someone, please call them out like i just did you.
[07:18] <efrancolaporte> ladydoor: sorry
[07:18] <jkcashin> So.. in the upper right there is a Software Updates tool, but how do I enable it? It says I have a pile of updates available
[07:18] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: no worries.
[07:18] <wastrel> jkcashin:  the orange asterisk thingy?
[07:18] <jkcashin> wastrel, yes.
[07:18] <jkcashin> I have right clicked all the options... nothing.
[07:18] <wastrel> jkcashin:  double-click it it should open up update manager
[07:19] <wastrel> maybe single click
[07:19] <efrancolaporte> ladydoor: i dont want to install abiword i already have too much linux junk on my pc, soon ill have more trash than i have on windowsXP
[07:19] <jkcashin> wastrel: Nope.. doesn't seem to do anything.
[07:19] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: well, abiword is lightweight. and you can uninstall it in a minute--i just want to see if it's some spellchecker-backend problem or an openoffice problem
[07:19] <wastrel> jkcashin:  i assume you're comfortable at the command line?    sudo aptitude upgrade  should do the same thing.
[07:19] <efrancolaporte> fine ill install it
[07:20] <jkcashin> Wastrel: yep.. completely. I will try that
[07:20] <wastrel> !aptitude
[07:20] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[07:20] <hearsay> I've seen it several times now: when I boot the computer the mouse does not work. init 6 brings it to work, but Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn't.  Any hints?
[07:20] <hearsay> there's no warning or error concerning the mouse in Xorg.0.log
[07:20] <tony_> !sourcetree
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcetree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <jkcashin> wastrel: Doesn't seem to be doing anything. ps doesn't show aptitude running either.
[07:22] <efrancolaporte> ladydoor: yes spellcheck works in abiword
[07:22] <J-_> when trying to install inkscape .44, I ./configure , then make, then i get "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." what can i do to install the program?
[07:23] <wastrel> well that's weird isn't it.
[07:23] <jUggERNAUt1980> what is the config command to configure a wireless card again, I'm gonna write it down for reference for now?
[07:23] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: ok, it sounds like an openoffice problem. I'd try first killing and then restarting openoffice and trying again, and then if that doesn't work, i'd look in aptitude/synaptic/adept/apt-cache search for any openoffice packages dealing with spellchecking and reinstalling them
[07:23] <Flannel> J-_: you have build-essential yet?
[07:23] <THX-1138> tony !info<package>     ?
[07:23] <J-_> i'm not too sure, let me check
[07:24] <wastrel> jkcashin:   make sure you don't have a CD line in  /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <jkcashin> wastrel: I tried su'ing, instead of sudo'ing... it seems to be working now. Seems like maybe I am not in sudoers?
[07:24] <efrancolaporte> ladydoor: well i restarted my PC several times so its not that...
[07:24] <J-_> Flannel: yes i do
[07:25] <wastrel> jkcashin:  the first user created during install is setup in the admin group and has full sudo access
[07:25] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: restarting the computer is generally unhelpful. in linux it's only necessary for some types of new hardware and for kernel upgrades.
[07:25] <efrancolaporte> ladydoor: where exactly should I look for / try to reinstall the packages?
[07:25] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: in whichever package manager you use
[07:25] <efrancolaporte> (i restarted my PC i meant i shut it off  and booted it the next day)
[07:25] <wastrel> jkcashin:  if you're not in the admin group that may have been the prob
[07:25] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: ah, i see
[07:25] <jkcashin> wastrel: good info. No CD in sources.list. I will check admin group. Thanks.
[07:26] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: so just search in whatever package manager you prefer or do an apt-cache search for openoffice
[07:26] <jUggERNAUt1980> can anyone tell me the command to see how to config all the different settings on your wireless card, so you see all the commands you can do to set it up?
[07:26] <ladydoor> jUggERNAUt1980: man iwconfig, maybe?
[07:26] <efrancolaporte> ladydoor: ok im in the Synaptic Package Manager, what should I look for?
[07:26] <Hammad> who here knows a bit about Mepis
[07:27] <jUggERNAUt1980> yeah, that's the one thanks, gonna write it down for now
[07:27] <tritium> Hammad: wrong channel ;)
[07:27] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: anything relating to openoffice & spellchecking. i don't really know too much about openoffice, sorry
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> How to use VNC to access a Windows computer?
[07:27] <Hammad> tritium - direct me to Mepis channel please
[07:27] <jkcashin> wastrel: seems I am not in the admin group. I am in adm.
[07:27] <efrancolaporte> well i found a SHITLOAD of stuff for "open office" (several hundreds)
[07:28] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: hundreds? i think not. perhaps add "spell" to your search. also, don't curse, please.
[07:28] <tony_> I found a program that i want to install, the instructions start with, To install Nicotine, from the source tree run: python setup.py install --prefix=<dir> ... what is the source tree.. and what should I specify as the installation directory
[07:28] <jkcashin> wastrel: There is no group admin. Do you mean adm?
[07:28] <tritium> Hammad: I'm not affiliated or familiar with their channel
[07:28] <HanzZ> hi... i have ubuntu edgy installed and i want to use python-xlib, but the package doesn't contain modules for python (http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=python-xlib&version=edgy&arch=all). Is it bug or something different?
[07:28] <wastrel> jkcashin:  this is the line in my /etc/sudoers   %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL    the group is admin.
[07:28] <aSt3raL_> how do you change firefox to ipv4?
[07:28] <pradeep> ladydoor:(about gdm) that worked! ... but now how can i get into gnome desktop?
[07:29] <ladydoor> pradeep: startx
[07:29] <Flannel> HanzZ: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[07:29] <tritium> sudoers file should not be edited.  Add users to the admin group instead.
[07:29] <efrancolaporte> i really am finding 500+ packages
[07:29] <ladydoor> pradeep: i believe that without an xinitrc, you boot, by default, to gnome
[07:29] <HanzZ> Flannel: thx :)
[07:29] <wastrel> jkcashin:  i'm not sure what part of the install process does this but that's how it's supposed to be set up :] 
[07:29] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: did you narrow it like i suggested?
[07:29] <aSt3raL_> anyone know what to type in firefox to get the config?
[07:29] <efrancolaporte> ladydoor: i reall am finding 500+ packages for "openoffice spell"
[07:29] <feet> hey. im trying to repair a botched grub setup. but it keeps complaining that it cant find the bios drive for /dev/evms/hdb ... what could be causing that??
[07:29] <jkcashin> wastrel: Weird, no such line in my sudoers, and no group admin in /etc/groups.
[07:29] <Flannel> aSt3raL_: about:config you mean?
[07:29] <ladydoor> aSt3raL_: about:config
[07:30] <wastrel> jkcashin:  what version of ubuntu did you install?
[07:30] <jkcashin> tritium: There is no admin group on this install.
[07:30] <tritium> jkcashin: say what?
[07:30] <Flannel> jkcashin: sounds like the installer didn't finish
[07:30] <tritium> agreed
[07:30] <vickythedoc> hi, what can i use to avi files?
[07:31] <jkcashin> wastrel: 10.1  I believe
[07:31] <aSt3raL_> thanks
[07:31] <ladydoor> pradeep: but you can look in /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop to see the command used to start gnome and then put an "exec thatcommand" at the end of your ~/.xinitrc
[07:31] <vickythedoc> view*
[07:31] <jkcashin> tritium: yep, no admin
[07:31] <wastrel> jkcashin:  lsb_release -a
[07:31] <feet> vickythedoc: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestictedFormats
[07:31] <Hammad> who uses konqueror
[07:31] <vickythedoc> i know but is there any where around that feet?
[07:31] <Hammad> whats the top most tab in the sidebar
[07:31] <Flannel> Hammad: you might try #kubuntu, they do ;)
[07:31] <jkcashin> 5.10, breezy
[07:31] <dorto> Hammad: kubuntu users
[07:31] <feet> no
[07:31] <feet> you cant view files without the codecs
[07:32] <feet> unless you use vlc media player
[07:32] <Hammad> ty
[07:32] <tritium> jkcashin: something is quite wrong with there not being an admin group
[07:32] <vickythedoc> how can i get vlc?
[07:32] <feet> grab it with synaptic
[07:32] <feet> or adept, whichever
[07:32] <dorto> vickythedoc: search it in synaptic
[07:32] <vickythedoc> im a newbie feel, can you say that in english :-s
[07:32] <feet> haha
[07:32] <feet> thats ok
[07:33] <jkcashin> tritium: Yep, there's an lpadmin, but nothing else matching admin (grep admin /etc/group)
[07:33] <feet> i would just grab the codecs from that wiki page, much easier
[07:33] <tritium> jkcashin: fresh install?
[07:33] <vickythedoc> ok feel ill take a look ty
[07:34] <efrancolaporte> ladydoor: is there any way i can post my problem somwehre effective? I HAVE NO IDEA why spellcheck doesnt work
[07:34] <efrancolaporte> the language can and is set in the open office options
[07:34] <hearsay> vickythedoc: avi is no format at all, it's a container
[07:34] <jkcashin> tritium: very! less than 1.5 hours ago. I am a Gentoo user but doing an install on a new PC and thought I would give Ubunto a whirl
[07:34] <efrancolaporte> and the spellcheck works if I open a .doc created my Microsoft Word so why not open office documents
[07:35] <efrancolaporte> ladydoor: and im googling for people having my problem and i cant find aything
[07:35] <vickythedoc> erm ok hearsay, how do i make it play though
[07:35] <tritium> jkcashin: any reason you didn't try the latest stable release, or even the development release?
[07:35] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: well, unless you get some error or other, nobody will be able to help you. however, you should perhaps search on the ubuntuforums, and if you don't find anything, post there.
[07:35] <vickythedoc> fell it says that page is not there yet
[07:35] <jkcashin> tritium: Only because I happened to have an install CD given me by a friend.
[07:35] <feet> oh
[07:35] <feet> unusual
[07:35] <tritium> jkcashin: might I suggest you try 6.06.1?
[07:36] <jkcashin> OK, I think I'll just download it and burn it. There's nothing on this machine to lose right now. Thanks for the help. I'll be back ina few hours ;-)
[07:36] <feet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats should work
[07:36] <jkcashin> tritium: sorry, forgot to flag your name with my reply a few lines back
[07:38] <mini> when I install nv drive,my computer always dead
[07:38] <mini> anyone help me?
[07:39] <Buglouse> can anyone give me advice with the LiveIce plugin? I'm trying to connect to a ShoutCast Server. I have all the info correct, but when i enter in port 8000, the player just plays and doesn't activate on the Stream. When I switch to port 8001, XMMS freezes, connects to stream, but doesn't play anything and forces me to kill it.
[07:39] <tritium> jkcashin: best of luck to you
[07:41] <mini>  I installed nv drive,when the window of software maximization,my computer was dead
[07:41] <THX-1138> mini - i missed the question. - sorry - "nv" ??
[07:41] <hearsay> vickythedoc: depends on what's in it: mpg, divx, or whatever:  xine, mplayer, vlc, or kaffeine, and most probably w32codecs
[07:41] <mini> THX-1138: sorry,nvidia drive
[07:41] <dorto> "nv" driver for nvidia mini wants to say perhaps
[07:42] <mini> and when I changed the windows' size,it was dead too.
[07:42] <mini> ya
[07:42] <THX-1138> mini - display driver nVidia - okay. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg nvidia-xconfig  or apt-get nvidia-xconfig or see ubotu
[07:43] <THX-1138> !display
[07:43] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:43] <jkcashin> Thanks tritium, and the others who helped me too: milchmann, wastrel, flannel
[07:43] <jkcashin> hopefully I'll be back soon.
[07:43] <tritium> jkcashin: :)
[07:43] <THX-1138> if you need  irc and have a terminal   irssi -c irc.freenode.org <enter>
[07:43] <mini> THX-1138: the nv drive work successfully,but got this problem.
[07:44] <chuckyp> THX-1138: someone else having problems with x
[07:44] <THX-1138> sry - chuckyp -
[07:44] <chuckyp> ???
[07:44] <chuckyp> Is someone else having problems with X?
[07:44] <J-_> when will inkscape .44 be placed in the repos, it's stable, and having trouble compiling it.
[07:44] <chuckyp> and nvidia after dist-upgrade?
[07:45] <mini> THX-1138: I had checked the settings,got no problem
[07:45] <THX-1138> mini - that is always good to hear.
[07:45] <dorto> Ubuntu/Kubuntu Dapper/Edgy never boot into X on my system(NVidia)
[07:45] <bun-bun> is there a way to get wget to take wildcards using http ?
[07:46] <dorto> it selects vesa driver by default I guess
[07:46] <mini> THX-1138: no,the nv drive worked,but always dead
[07:46] <dorto> when I select "nv" by doing dpkg-reconfigure for X, I get the X without any problems
[07:46] <mini> my computer always dead
[07:46] <dorto> that info was for chuckyp btw -----^^
[07:47] <chuckyp> dorto: was it working for you before?
[07:47] <dorto> chuckyp: it worked very well with 5.10
[07:47] <THX-1138> more info mini - i am a bit sleepy and missed your description.
[07:47] <dorto> sorry, don't remember the version
[07:47] <mini> THX-1138: my card is nvidia mx 440
[07:48] <dorto> yeah, Breezy/5.10 worked well
[07:48] <dorto> no reconfiguration for X was needed
[07:48] <mini> I just installed ubuntu on this computer,had not yet installed linux before
[07:48] <THX-1138> mini - Did you need the "Legay" nvidia driver for that card?
[07:49] <THX-1138> legacy
[07:49] <mini> I installed wasn't it
[07:50] <chuckyp> dorto: you need to install the nvidia drivers have you done that?
[07:50] <mini> THX-1138: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[07:51] <mini> I had checked,my card is not legacy
[07:52] <mini> THX-1138: do you have any idea?
[07:52] <rredd4> !seen aru
[07:52] <ubotu> I last saw aru (n=aru@65-100-8-128.eugn.qwest.net) 4m 21s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[07:53] <BeepAU> i'm trying to use zsnes. it loads up, but then closes straight away. does anyone know what the problem might be?
[07:53] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to burn an iso in terminal?
[07:53] <ladydoor> chuckyp: look for BashBurn on google
[07:54] <ladydoor> chuckyp: it's a great all-around CD-burning program
[07:54] <wastrel> bashburn good name
[07:55] <THX-1138> mini -  i would try nvidia-xconfig if sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is giving you trouble.
[07:55] <ladydoor> wastrel: yeah, but unfortunately, it's not in the repos. but luckily, it's not hard to install.
[07:55] <THX-1138> mini - thanks for the link. - i hadn't seen it.
[07:57] <THX-1138> mini - from the command line you have "w3m" for a web browser and irssi for irc  wget will download any file you need.
[07:57] <mini> THX-1138: r u still there?
[07:57] <zennix> please tell me a simple solution to my problem
[07:57] <zohaib> what package is ati in repo's i wanna install the proprietary ati drivers for my card...
[07:57] <mini> THX-1138: can u give me the url?
[07:58] <zennix> i was useing a program and it froze how do i get to another it was in fullscreen mode
[07:58] <mini> i just get opera and gaim now
[07:58] <mini> i can't receive any files
[07:58] <rixth> bug with gnome-calculator: even on the advanced mode, it doesn'
[07:58] <rixth> t have pi
[07:58] <MyGhetek> I recently installed the LAMP installation of ubuntu on my laptop. I have left my laptop at the office thinking that it would have ssh open and useable by default (not the case i think) I have access to the router in front of the laptop and i have all my usernames and passwords on it as well. i need to get some work onto my LAMP installation before tomorrow but the location is no longer accessible. ideas? ive tried putty with port 22 f
[07:58] <THX-1138> mini - sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig or sudo aptitiude nvidia-xconfig
[07:59] <rixth> MyGhetek, your office likely has a firewall
[07:59] <wastrel> MyGhetek:  i don't think openssh-server is installed by default   not sure about the LAMP setup
[07:59] <mini> THX-1138: then?
[07:59] <MyGhetek> I have full access to the firewall from here
[07:59] <four> how can i play my movies on my tv with ubuntu?
[07:59] <THX-1138> mini - nvidia-xconfig -h will print more info
[07:59] <MyGhetek> is there no way into my LAMP setup then?
[07:59] <AlexC> does anyone know how to install pingus?
[08:00] <THX-1138> !info pingus
[08:00] <ubotu> pingus: Free Lemmings(TM) clone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-8.3 (dapper), package size 656 kB, installed size 1664 kB
[08:00] <zennix> i was useing a program and it froze how do i get to another it was in fullscreen mode ... im used to windows withthe alt tab option or the ctrl alt del option neither have worked any suggestions
[08:01] <MyGhetek> hmmm thanks anyway you guys
[08:01] <MyGhetek> i guess ive got to get to driving. 5 hour trip this is so crazy
[08:01] <zennix> 5 hour
[08:01] <ladydoor> zennix: try switching to another desktop
[08:01] <zennix> whoah
[08:01] <zennix> whats the key sequence
[08:02] <AlexC> i've downloaded a .tar.bz2 binary and don't know how to install
[08:02] <zennix> no mouse controll withthe freeze
[08:02] <rredd4> zennix cntrl alt esc
[08:02] <ladydoor> zennix: i don't know, whatever it normally is in gnome or whatever. i'll google it in a second
[08:02] <THX-1138> ctrl+alt+f2  then ps -e  (find the app) sudo killall <frozen_app>
[08:02] <zennix> yeah gnome
[08:02] <chuckyp> zennix: do you know the name of the program?
[08:03] <ladydoor> THX-1138: doesn't the person need to open a terminal to see the output?
[08:03] <james296> hey does anyone know what date Edgy Eft will be released???
[08:03] <mnepton> oct 26
[08:03] <chuckyp> zennix: you could just hit alt+F2 and type in xkill and then a little skull will pop up just click on the dead app
[08:03] <james296> dang...
[08:03] <THX-1138> ladydoor - erm - yes. - comepletly frozen machines require a reboot or a miracle.
[08:03] <james296> grrrrr
[08:03] <james296> dont wanna wait that long lol
[08:04] <james296> hopefully it will be worth the wait
[08:04] <tritium> !enter
[08:04] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:04] <mini> THX-1138: i can't solve my problem yet.
[08:04] <ladydoor> THX-1138: well, right, but apparently the problem is just that the person doen't know how to switch to another desktop
[08:04] <gtc> Is there a target date for the next Ubuntu release?
[08:04] <chuckyp> !edgy
[08:04] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:04] <ladydoor> !schedule
[08:04] <mnepton> oct 26
[08:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:05] <chuckyp> there it is
[08:05] <zennix> yeah krdc
[08:05] <THX-1138> ladydoor - lol - i need more coffee. - (thought i gave him ctrl+alt+f2 - oh well)
[08:05] <ladydoor> THX-1138: haha...
[08:06] <gtc> Thanks!
[08:06] <AlexC> how do i install kde from a kubuntu alternative cd?
[08:06] <shasbot> my cursor is frequently losing most of its functionality and i dont know where to even look for the cause of the problem, can anyone help me?
[08:06] <chuckyp> zennix: did you try pushing alt+f2 then type in xkill hit enter  a skull shoudl come up and just click on the app
[08:06] <mini> THX-1138 i installed nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules686 first,then do " nvidia-xconfig"
[08:07] <mnepton> AlexC: insert the CD, start the package manager, use it to install kubuntu-desktop.
[08:07] <mini> when i restarted my computer,the nv driver carded seems worked,but my computer always dead
[08:07] <THX-1138> mini - Any other info might help. not seeing what you are seeing. - sounds like /etc/X11/xorg.conf is misconfigured. - the info !display or nvidia-xconfig should fix that.
[08:07] <rredd4> ladydoor  cntrl  alt escape  also brings up the skull!
[08:08] <chuckyp> rredd4: it does?
[08:08] <rredd4> it does on my computer
[08:08] <AlexC> mnepton: how do i use it?
[08:09] <mnepton> AlexC: lots of lotion and a gentle, circular rubbing motion
[08:09] <mnepton> oh, did you mean the package manager or the CD or what?
[08:09] <zennix> THX-1138 i did it
[08:09] <AlexC> mnepton: lol, no really
[08:09] <THX-1138> zennix - cool! :)
[08:09] <mnepton> AlexC: no, really. what do you mean by "it?"
[08:09] <mini> THX-1138: the xorg,conf was generated automated,and i had modified it as  other lectures
[08:09] <zennix> now how do i get back to gui
[08:10] <AlexC> mnepton: both
[08:10] <ladydoor> rredd4: what skull?
[08:10] <THX-1138> mini - ok, so far so good.
[08:10] <AlexC> mnepton: how do i use synaptic so it looks in the cd?
[08:10] <CorpseFeeder> trying to make video capture card work. I am using "open capture device' method in VLC... all I am getting in the resultant video file is black screen
[08:10] <mnepton> AlexC: uhhh ... i have minutes, not hours, for this stuff ;)
[08:10] <AlexC> mnepton: lol
[08:10] <mnepton> AlexC: you put the CD in and choose "start package manager"
[08:10] <THX-1138> mini - you have the info for irssi if your desktop disappears right?
[08:11] <rredd4> ladydoor   when i do control alt escape, a skull comes up to kill the app that i click on.
[08:11] <ladydoor> rredd4: really? weird
[08:11] <AlexC> mnepton: thanks
[08:11] <ladydoor> rredd4: why not just do killall in a terminal?
[08:11] <DrZeus> hi all.  Question: how do I run a .bin installer?
[08:11] <mini> THX-1138: what?
[08:11] <ladydoor> rredd4: actually, nevermind. whatever you prefer
[08:11] <THX-1138> mini - "VESA" nearly always works. - selecet that temporarily if neede.
[08:12] <DrZeus> how is it done for installing .bin packages?
[08:12] <HeathenDan> i like that skull, it makes stopping bad apps easy
[08:12] <rredd4> ladydoor  many ways to do the same thing!
[08:12] <ladydoor> rredd4: indeed.
[08:13] <shasbot> gnome seems to keep losing functionality on me, the cursor can still move but it can only interact with one window, and none of the keyboard shortcuts appears to be working
[08:13] <rredd4> ladydoor   i am still learning commands in terminal, windows, mac got me used to gui
[08:13] <shasbot> anyone have any idea what could be causing my problem?
[08:13] <ladydoor> rredd4: fair enough.
[08:13] <CorpseFeeder> I am using a Pinnacle DC10+ motion Jpeg analogue video capture card (zoran chipset). VLC capture is just giving me a blank black video file. What do I do?
[08:14] <zennix> how do i get back gui now im in cli
[08:14] <chuckyp> zennix: in cli?  in virtual terminal you mean?
[08:14] <rredd4> f7
[08:14] <chuckyp> zennix: ctrl+alt+f7
[08:14] <THX-1138> ctrl+alt+f7
[08:15] <mini> THX-1138: i still can't understand ur mean
[08:15] <chuckyp> shasbot: did you install updates today and is this a new problem?
[08:15] <THX-1138> if x isn't started  startx
[08:15] <zennix> your a legen
[08:15] <zennix> oops
[08:15] <zennix> your a legend
[08:16] <zennix> thankyou
[08:16] <zennix> thankyou
[08:16] <zennix> thankyou
[08:16] <chuckyp> zennix: f1-f6 are virtual consoles f7 holds x
[08:16] <bugsta> hello?
[08:16] <shasbot> chuckyp, no and no
[08:16] <zennix> ahhh
[08:16] <chuckyp> shasbot: hrm.. dunno then
[08:17] <THX-1138> ladydoor - I trust you. - can i ask a favor? - Would you help mini?   ( i need a little rest.)
[08:17] <shasbot> chuckyp: the cursor will have a mind of its own at times and just flourish about the screen
[08:17] <shasbot> sometimes it does that and then starts working again
[08:17] <ladydoor> THX-1138: what's the person's problem? i don't think i knew what the deal was
[08:17] <THX-1138> my apologies mini. - i am falling asleep.
[08:18] <mini> THX-1138: ok
[08:18] <THX-1138> he installed the video driver for an mx440
[08:18] <veri> met siang
[08:18] <THX-1138> G'nite! (((room)))
[08:18] <ladydoor> THX-1138: thanks for your trust, but i'm afraid i don't know and was also about to log off. perhaps someone on the forums could help?
[08:19] <AlexC> when i downloaded the kubuntu alternative cd i burnt it so that it was a file not the actual cd, how do i get synaptic to look at that file instead of looking at the cd ?(if that makes sence)
[08:19] <ladydoor> mini: i'm really sorry, but i'm afraid i'm not familiar with graphics card issues...you might try posting on the forums...i'm really sorry, but it's also been a very long day for me
[08:19] <XiXaQ> AlexC, you mean you want to mount the iso file as a cd-rom?
[08:19] <mini> ladydoor: thanks
[08:19] <ladydoor> mini: good luck :-/
[08:20] <AlexC> XiXaQ: yes(i think)
[08:20] <ladydoor> mini: you're welcome...sorry i can't really help more. goodnight
[08:20] <XiXaQ> AlexC, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountIso?highlight=%28Mount%29%7C%28ISO%29
[08:20] <shasbot> how can i keep the kde processes from starting on boot after switching from kubuntu?
[08:20] <rredd4> mini  you might try  ##linux, they have halped me a lot
[08:20] <ArrenLex> Hurrah! The #ubuntu goodness! =1
[08:20] <rredd4> lol helped
[08:21] <veri> hai
[08:21] <rredd4> veri english please
[08:21] <mini> rredd4: do u mean the room of irc?
[08:22] <rredd4> yes
[08:22] <radone> Is it possible to create script that will run 'dhclient' and will not be requiring any password?
[08:23] <radone> inserting password into this script i guess is not good idea
[08:23] <rredd4> if install lamp server, i cannot ssh into it as admin?
[08:23] <XiXaQ> radone, most startup scripts are run as root. They don't require you to type in your password.
[08:25] <radone> XiXaQ: the problem if my mum forgets to start modem before starting computer the only way to make Internet working is to resytart
[08:25] <radone> restart
[08:26] <XiXaQ> why?
[08:26] <jimdaniels> radone: that's strange
[08:26] <DemisM> when i install an application i see a bunch of other deps being installed and what not... when I remove the app i don't see these deps uninstall how do I know what deps have been installed and how can i remove them?
[08:26] <jimdaniels> maybe you can upload your settings to the pastebin so we can check them
[08:27] <mckinnoj> does anyone in here use 3ddesktop
[08:27] <ArrenLex> radone: ifdown -a and ifup -a doesn't work?
[08:27] <mckinnoj> i have a couple of questions about it
[08:27] <jimdaniels> mckinnoj: join #ubuntu-xgl and i will answer them
[08:29] <radone> ArrenLex: permission denied
[08:31] <SuperMiguel> there is any gui for the ubuntu server?
[08:31] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: you can install whatever GUI you like.
[08:32] <aeroSoul> no
[08:32] <rredd4> is there ssh in lamp?
[08:32] <ArrenLex> radone: run with sudo, then.
[08:32] <XiXaQ> SuperMiguel, which server are you referring to?
[08:32] <SuperMiguel> ubunu server :A
[08:32] <SuperMiguel> ubuntu*
[08:32] <CorpseFeeder> where can I find help on making capture card work? forum search for "dc10+" or "dc10 plus" gives 3 threads, all equally useless.
[08:33] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: "server" and "GUI" are usually mutually exclusive terms ;)
[08:33] <jimdaniels> i hope you know that you don't have xgl but something else installed? 3ddesktop isn't an x server it's only a desktop switcher
[08:33] <SuperMiguel> i haven an PIII with 256 ram
[08:33] <SuperMiguel> and i want to make it a server
[08:33] <DemisM> How can I change my window manager?
[08:33] <SuperMiguel> can i use the normal ubuntu
[08:33] <SuperMiguel> or do i have to use the ubuntu server
[08:33] <DemisM> Like if I download fluxbox how do I remove gnome?
[08:33] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: use the server version
[08:34] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: ubuntu server is just ubuntu without GUI packages. You can install them later and make yourself a regular ubuntu.
[08:34] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: servers should not have GUIs except when absolutely necessary
[08:34] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: for a low-end box, I recommend xubuntu. It has a lightweight GUI.
[08:34] <SuperMiguel> the only difference between ubuntu server and ubuntu normal is that the normal ubuntu havegui?
[08:34] <aeroSoul> my server has a gui... remote desktop (vnc) is often more comfortable than just ssh
[08:34] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: yes.
[08:35] <SuperMiguel> xubuntu is a server base ubuntu?
[08:35] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: and GUI apps like OpenOffice and Firefox and what-not
[08:35] <SuperMiguel> umm
[08:35] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: just use the server version of Ubuntu
[08:35] <jimdaniels> DemisM: did you simply try installing it?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: xubuntu is ubuntu base + xfce packages. "Ubuntu" is ubuntu base + gnome packages. "Kubuntu" is ubuntu base + kde packages. "Ubuntu server" is ubuntu base without any gui packages.
[08:35] <SuperMiguel> but there is any way to get a minimal gui?
[08:36] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: why do you need a GUI on a server?
[08:36] <XiXaQ> SuperMiguel, on that machine, if you want to have a GUI, then you should use xubuntu
[08:36] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: sure. icewm and fluxbox are both pretty minimal. twm is very, very, very minimal. xfce is quite light but more full-featured.
[08:36] <SuperMiguel> is xfce good?
[08:36] <J-_> mnepton: i installed ubuntu on a server (so i could configure it) and it still didn't work :S lol
[08:37] <mnepton> J-_: works fine for me :)
[08:37] <XiXaQ> SuperMiguel, it
[08:37] <SuperMiguel> umm
[08:37] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: What do you mean, "good"? That's subjective. If it's comfortable for you, then it's "good". If you don't like it, then it's not.
[08:37] <XiXaQ> SuperMiguel, it resembles GNOME, but it is even simpler. You'll find alot of screenshots on google.
[08:37] <J-_> mnepton: did you have to open any ports on your machine to get the server going?
[08:38] <XiXaQ> SuperMiguel, it's not as heavy, making it suitable for older hardware.
[08:38] <mnepton> J-_: on the machine or on my router? machine no. router yes.
[08:38] <SuperMiguel> i have the normal ubuntu installed if i just type sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[08:38] <J-_> weird, yeah i opened 8080 on my router, still didn't work.
[08:38] <SuperMiguel> and sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <mnepton> J-_: did you install something to listen on 8080 and configure it to do so?
[08:39] <SuperMiguel> that will do the job or i have to donwload the actual xubuntu?
[08:39] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" won't remove Gnome because ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage. xubuntu-desktop will install xfce, though, so you can try it.
[08:39] <Cassandra> Does anyone here know nicotine?
[08:40] <J-_> hmm, what do you mean did i install something to listen to 8080? what's a name of a program that i could use?
[08:40] <mnepton> J-_: Ubuntu server has no daemons installed by default. no apache, sendmail, ftp, anything. you need to install and configure that stuff.
[08:41] <J-_> yeah yeah, i installed LAMP, which then i used, webmin.
[08:42] <mnepton> did you configure apache to listen on 8080 instead of 80?
[08:42] <DrZeus> how do I set enviroment variables in the terminal?
[08:42] <J-_> yes
[08:42] <DrZeus> im trying to setup the env variable for the JVM
[08:42] <ArrenLex> DrZeus: export VARIABLE=value
[08:42] <mnepton> DrZeus: the rc files for whatever shell you use store those permanently
[08:43] <DrZeus> thnx
[08:43] <J-_> fooled around with it for 2 days, and it still would work. heh, going to try it again soon..
[08:43] <J-_> wouldn't
[08:43] <DrZeus> because im trying to install netbeans, and keeps telling me I dont have the JVM installed
[08:43] <mnepton> J-_: http://www.mneptok.com ;)
[08:43] <SuperMiguel> when i finish my server configuration
[08:43] <ArrenLex> DrZeus: I assume netbeans has some kind of conf file, which is a better thing to use?
[08:43] <mnepton> J-_: that's lighttpd/mysql/php5-cgi running on ubuntu server
[08:44] <SuperMiguel> there is any way that i can make my computer to boot to that no gui screen?
[08:44] <J-_> thanks, maybe i'll try it out
[08:44] <SuperMiguel> and if i want to go inside the gui i just type startx
[08:44] <SuperMiguel> um?
[08:44] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: do you want to do that only once in a while, or permanently?
[08:44] <SuperMiguel> i want always to boot to the no gui screen
[08:45] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: then remove the gdm package.
[08:45] <SuperMiguel> but i one in a while i want to use gui i just type startx
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Yes.
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Remove gdm.
[08:45] <SuperMiguel> how
[08:45] <ArrenLex> apt-get remove gdm. o_O
[08:46] <DrZeus> ArrenLex: it has a .bin file
[08:46] <SuperMiguel> sudo apt-get remove gmd
[08:46] <SuperMiguel> E: Couldn't find package gm
[08:47] <ArrenLex> GDM
[08:47] <ArrenLex> Gnome Display Manager
[08:47] <SuperMiguel> ok
[08:47] <DrZeus> ArrenLex: mnepton: thnx guys, now it is installing
[08:47] <ArrenLex> DrZeus: what has a bin file?
[08:48] <alberto> alguem pode me ajudar a configurar um mouse serial no ubuntu??
[08:48] <DrZeus> ArrenLex: i think it is some kind of binary
[08:49] <ArrenLex> DrZeus: yes, but what are you talking about?
[08:49] <TrixIsOwned> quick question
[08:49] <DrZeus> the install file for netbeans was a .bin file
[08:49] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[08:49] <TrixIsOwned> can ubuntu run pcanywhere?
[08:50] <ArrenLex> Yes, you just chmod +x <file> and ./<file> those.
[08:50] <XiXaQ> DrZeus, it's Install Shield I think.
[08:50] <ArrenLex> Trix: What is pcanywhere?
[08:50] <Rookie-> try man
[08:50] <TrixIsOwned> having xp as the host?
[08:50] <Rookie-> ops
[08:50] <DrZeus> XiXaQ: yes, it is
[08:50] <TrixIsOwned> remote connection :S
[08:50] <ArrenLex> Trix: http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/52601630
[08:51] <DrZeus> ArrenLex: why do we have to chmod 755 the .bin files?
[08:51] <ArrenLex> Does that tell you anything?
[08:51] <DrZeus> are they some written script or something?
[08:51] <XiXaQ> DrZeus, sudo ./install-file.bin for instance?
[08:51] <ArrenLex> DrZeus: If I had any idea what permissions 755 represented I would tell you. I only have 000 and 777 memorised. =P
[08:51] <TrixIsOwned> well i have v12 so i guess it does :P
[08:51] <Cassandra> Does anyone know how I would get the most up-to-date nicotine?
[08:51] <TrixIsOwned> another thing
[08:52] <DrZeus> lol,
[08:52] <ArrenLex> DrZeus: you need execute permissions to execute a file. Any file, be it shell script or binary executable.
[08:52] <XiXaQ> DrZeus, it tells the system that the file could be executed as a program.
[08:52] <TrixIsOwned> if i installed ubuntu would i be able to run media files via network folders from a xp machine?
[08:52] <DrZeus> i thought binaries already had execute permissions
[08:52] <XiXaQ> TrixIsOwned, yes.
[08:53] <TrixIsOwned> and what is the best linux meida player? :S
[08:53] <XiXaQ> TrixIsOwned, not automatically though. You'd have to configure it.
[08:53] <XiXaQ> TrixIsOwned, there are thousands. I use VLC.
[08:53] <ArrenLex> DrZeus: of course not! That's a huge security risk. Imagine if someone just sent you a script which consisted of "rm -rf /". What would happen if any n00b user could just run it?!
[08:53] <TrixIsOwned> know if media player classic has a linux version? :D
[08:54] <ArrenLex> TrixIsOwned: if you want a GUI, then VLC is pretty good. Else, I recommend mplayer.
[08:54] <XiXaQ> TrixIsOwned, I don't know what you mean by that.
[08:54] <TrixIsOwned> media player classic = better than vlc on xp :S
[08:54] <CorpseFeeder> anyone know where to get info on video capture?
[08:54] <DrZeus> ArrenLex: oh, I see
[08:55] <XiXaQ> TrixIsOwned, there are so many players. Real Player is available from the Ubuntu Repositories.
[08:55] <TrixIsOwned> ew real player o_o
[08:55] <XiXaQ> :)
[08:55] <DrZeus> true.
[08:55] <XiXaQ> I don't like it either.
[08:57] <TrixIsOwned> im beginning to wonder if this is such a good idea
[08:57] <ArrenLex> Trix: if what is such a good idea?
[08:57] <TrixIsOwned> i should just use windows and just network it :S
[08:58] <TrixIsOwned> im trying to have a dummy pc i can connect to my tv
[08:58] <TrixIsOwned> and watch my files on
[08:58] <TrixIsOwned> through either a remote connection or network
[08:58] <ArrenLex> Trix: and VLC\mplayer isn't suitable for this because....?
[08:58] <TrixIsOwned> because i havent installed ubuntu :P
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Ah. xD
[09:01] <a11ie> is there anything comparable to kmix for gnome?
[09:01] <dyneuser_> avidemux may do
[09:01] <ArrenLex> Doesn't gnome come with a volume manager in the taskbar?
[09:01] <TrixIsOwned> and it has win95 on it right now
[09:01] <TrixIsOwned> so, its either i install xp or ubuntu
[09:01] <a11ie> yeah, but it only has master and wave volume
[09:02] <TrixIsOwned> xp seems so much easier for what im doing o_o
[09:02] <a11ie> I'm trying to turn up the volume on my headphone port
[09:02] <TrixIsOwned> any comment on that? for easier :S
[09:03] <mnepton> TrixIsOwned: depends on the hardware and its manufacturers
[09:03] <TrixIsOwned> which hardware?
[09:04] <mnepton> all of it. from CPU to TV.
[09:04] <TrixIsOwned> X_X
[09:05] <mnepton> TVs tend to be pretty standard. CPUs tend to run Windows or Linux intercahngeably. but video card manufactuers and their willingness to provide adequate information, source, or drivers themselves can vary greatly between platforms.
[09:05] <mnepton> how many horrible video card drivers that only semi-work for Windows do you know. i know many. Linux is no different.
[09:06] <ArrenLex> Linux is different because ATI's drivers are horrible and only semi-work for it. This is a huge issue because like half of all video cards are ATI.
[09:07] <ArrenLex> Maybe Windows' driver for FOOCARD324948@*& doesn't run very well. But who cares, really?
[09:07] <XiXaQ> TrixIsOwned, you don't have to install Ubuntu. Just run it off the cd and try it out.
[09:07] <mnepton> ArrenLex: ATI has not always provided quality support for Windows, either.
[09:08] <ArrenLex> mnepton: I've yet to find an ATI card which I can't tease 3D acceleration out of for Windows.
[09:08] <ArrenLex> But I can't get this card to go 3D under Linux.
[09:09] <zoidberg> guys do u think an Onboard Intel Video card (that is able to handle counter strike 1.6) would be able to run 3ddesktop?
[09:09] <a11ie> does anyone know why the sound might not go through the headphone port? Sound only works on laptop speakers
[09:09] <mnepton> having to tease support out of something is rather indicative of a manufacturer "not providing quality support," imo :)
[09:09] <zoidberg> guys do u think an Onboard Intel Video card (that is able to handle counter strike 1.6) would be able to run 3ddesktop?
[09:10] <zoidberg> i have a question
[09:10] <zoidberg> What does it mean that i'm missing GLX??? and how can i get it?
[09:11] <HedgeMage> a11ie: play with alsamixer... most likely the headphone volume is muted or horribly low
[09:11] <XiXaQ> zoidberg, such questions are best asked in #Ubuntu-xgl
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> zoidberg: I know nothing about the card, but in my experience 3ddesk used the CPU more intensely than the graphics card.
[09:15] <a11ie> HedgeMage: alsamixer only has master and pcm volume controls
[09:16] <HedgeMage> a11ie: there's an "advanced view" on the gui version I think that gives you the rest... otherwise just type "alsamixer" and hit enter in a terminal and it will bring up the CLI version
[09:16] <a11ie> HedgeMage: what's the command to get to the gui version?
[09:17] <HedgeMage> a11ie: not sure, but it's in the ubuntu menu somewhere :)
[09:17] <HedgeMage> (Sorry, I don't use gnome so I don't know where off the top of my head)
[09:18] <thoreauputic> allie  gnome-volume-control - then hist Rdit-Preferences
[09:18] <thoreauputic> *hit
[09:19] <thoreauputic> heh I Edit - Preferences, even
[09:19] <thoreauputic> allie it's the same GUI you get by double-clicking the panel icon anyway
[09:20] <a11ie> thanks, but the headphone control isn't available on this list
[09:21] <HedgeMage> a11ie: :(
[09:21] <a11ie> thanks anyway
[09:21] <XiXaQ> I just installed nx client. How do I run it?
[09:21] <thoreauputic> allie it's probably called something else - just tick all the boxes, then play with it (make sure you note the presnt settings so you can revert if necessary)
[09:22] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: if you installed from seveas repos, just "nxclient" - if it's the noMachine version, probably something like /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[09:23] <ArrenLex> XiXaQ: is your question is "how does this program work", have you looked at the documentation? If your question is "where can I find the program it installed", do "dpkg -L <package>" to list all the files for that package.
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> a11ie: Maybe you need the check it on in the preferences?
[09:23] <thoreauputic> yep just checked - remeber it's case sensitive
[09:23] <a11ie> thoreauputic: it only has master, pcm, and capture - none of which are for my headphone control
[09:24] <thoreauputic> allie , no, in the preferences there's a whole list
[09:24] <a11ie> thoreauputic: I know I've tried all of them
[09:25] <ArrenLex> a11ie: pastebin the output if 'amixer'.
[09:25] <ArrenLex> if -> of
[09:26] <Daverocks> ArrenLex: you don't want to mix up if and of when using dd... you got lucky ;)
[09:26] <DrZeus> ArrenLex: now i have netbeans running
[09:26] <thoreauputic> Daverocks:  dd is sudden death if you get the order wrong, indeed :)
[09:27] <ArrenLex> Daverocks: my fingers don't like me tonight. Fortunately, I don't sue dd... SEE?! SEE?!
[09:27] <DrZeus> is kinda heavy for my system, but it looks great
[09:27] <Daverocks> lol Arren
[09:28] <ArrenLex> Hey, is there any reason netbeans isn't in the ubuntu repos?
[09:28] <foo>  /dev/sdb can be SCSI or SATA drives ... right?
[09:29] <preaction> foo, it could be any number of things really.
[09:29] <a11ie> ArrenLex: http://paste.uni.cc/10817
[09:29] <foo> preaction: firewire or usb .. anything else?
[09:29] <preaction> foo, that sounds like about it
[09:30] <chimaera> hi. isn't ubuntu using grub anymore or is there any other reason i can't have /boot on an XFS-partition anymore?
[09:30] <ArrenLex> a11ie: don't bother looking for headphone anywhere; the alsa driver for your card does not have the capability to adjust that volume.
[09:30] <thoreauputic> chimaera: Ubuntu is using grub - don't know the answer re: xfs
[09:31] <a11ie> ArrenLex: do you have any tips for enabling the headphones then?
[09:31] <Daverocks> maybe grub can't read from XFS?
[09:31] <thoreauputic> chimaera: try asking in #ubuntu+1 if this is edgy
[09:31] <Daverocks> check what filesystems grub supports
[09:31] <ArrenLex> a11ie: what problem are you having again?
[09:31] <hyperstream> !dvd
[09:31] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:32] <a11ie> ArrenLex: I don't get any sound from the sound output jacks
[09:32] <a11ie> only my internal speakers
[09:33] <ArrenLex> a11ie: Internal speakers where? Is this a laptop?
[09:33] <a11ie> yes
[09:33] <chimaera_> sry, got DV. was there an answer to my question above?
[09:33] <ArrenLex> a11ie: and the simple fact that something is inserted into the out jack doesn't disable the speakers?
[09:34] <chimaera_> s/DV/DC/
[09:34] <Daverocks> chimaera_: yeah, i suggested that maybe grub doesn't support the XFS filesystem
[09:34] <a11ie> ArrenLex: No, it doesn't disable the speakers
[09:34] <chimaera_> well, i've been using that setup for years.
[09:34] <ArrenLex> a11ie: does it do this under Windows?
[09:34] <a11ie> ArrenLex: The problem is that there is no sound output
[09:34] <a11ie> from the jacks
[09:35] <a11ie> ArrenLex: Yes, it does work on windows
[09:35] <Daverocks> chimaera_: hmm, it probably does support XFS, it _is_ an old fs after all... not sure about your problem ;(
[09:35] <XiXaQ> ArrenLex, thanks. :) That command was very useful.
[09:35] <ArrenLex> XiXaQ: holy crap you're reading far behind, but glad I could help =P
[09:35] <ArrenLex> a11ie: sorry; I don't know.
[09:36] <DrZeus> im installing XGL w/beryl right now.  Just had the chance of actually using it with a liveCD of Kororaa
[09:36] <DrZeus> really amazing.
[09:36] <a11ie> thanks anyway! I'm going to call up HP and bitch at them
[09:36] <chimaera_> Daverocks:  well, the installer tell sme that i can't install / (which holds /boot here) on XFS an won't let me proceed. now linux-systems start to boss me around. neat.. ^^
[09:36] <chimaera_> 
[09:36] <JerzeyLogic> does anyone know anything about irssi themes?
[09:38] <Daverocks> chimaera_: hmm... haven't had much experience with the ubuntu installer... someone probably knows more than me about that
[09:38] <thoreauputic> JerzeyLogic: http://www.irssi.org/themes    ?
[09:39] <chimaera_> Daverocks: no problem. using XFS was more of a tradition for me. just don't like the thought of not beeing able to do something because some DEV thinks "this might couse problemms, better not allow it."
[09:40] <JerzeyLogic> thoreauputic: Yea I loaded the lyynx theme but now it keeps telling me other themes I try to load sfc1337, is not found
[09:41] <Daverocks> chimaera_: haha, ok
[09:41] <thoreauputic> JerzeyLogic: I take it you put them in ~/.irssi/  ?
[09:41] <JerzeyLogic> yea
[09:41] <thoreauputic> JerzeyLogic: abd they have a *.theme suffix?
[09:41] <smi13y> How can i change log out window in Dapper to old one from Breezy ?
[09:41] <JerzeyLogic> yea
[09:42] <thoreauputic> JerzeyLogic: then i don't know - works for me (tm)
[09:42] <chimaera_> Daverocks: anyway,guess i look into it and if i find more of this, i'll head back to debian. i'd miss some of ubuntu's comfort, though.
[09:43] <DrZeus> has anyone installed beryl lately?
[09:43] <hyperstream> ahh does gxine use oss or alsa, if so  how do i customly choose which sound device to use etc ?
[09:43] <thoreauputic> hyperstream: alsa
[09:44] <Daverocks> !anyone
[09:44] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:44] <hyperstream> i have no sound when playing a dvd
[09:44] <thoreauputic> hyperstream: the other question I don't know since I have only one sound card
[09:44] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[09:44] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:46] <ArrenLex> thoreauputic: do you get sound when playing other movies with gxine?
[09:46] <ISOLATEDViRuS> sup guyz
[09:46] <thoreauputic> ArrenLex: ? You mean do I get sound simultaneously from multiple apps? Yes
[09:46] <BhAaD> how can i force reboot?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> BhAaD:  sudo shutdown -r now
[09:47] <BhAaD> yea
[09:47] <dark_light> where i can change where serpentine saves the .wav temporary files? it's saved in home by default, but i want to save in /tmp
[09:47] <BhAaD> i tried that about 10x
[09:47] <BhAaD> it wont work?
[09:47] <BhAaD> ls
[09:47] <drumline_> Anyone ever try LinDVD ?
[09:48] <BhAaD> The system is going down for reboot NOW!
[09:48] <ArrenLex> thoreauputic: no. You say you don't get sound when playing a DVD in gxine. What if you try playing a regular movie in gxine?
[09:48] <BhAaD> it wont reboot though
[09:48] <ArrenLex> BhAaD: ctrl + alt + f1 and then ctrl+alt+del?
[09:48] <thoreauputic> ArrenLex: wrong person - that was hyperstream
[09:48] <ArrenLex> Oh. So it was.
[09:48] <ArrenLex> Apologies.
[09:49] <thoreauputic> no worries :)
[09:49] <BhAaD> i think its stuck on some I/O operation, my load average: 14.65, 13.29, 10.98
[09:49] <Daverocks> BhAaD: checked top?
[09:49] <BhAaD> but top wont show me anything
[09:49] <ArrenLex> Hyperstream, do you get sound with regular movies in gxine?
[09:49] <thoreauputic> BhAaD: woah!
[09:49] <Daverocks> BhAaD: try using < and > to change the column which it's sorting by, see if any processes bubble up then
[09:49] <thoreauputic> BhAaD: what does top say is using all your resources?
[09:49] <BhAaD> ReiserFS: md0: warning: vs-13070: reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to find stat data of [54171 54502 0x0 SD] 
[09:49] <BhAaD> dmesg|tail shows me that
[09:49] <BhAaD> thats not good :(
[09:50] <drumline_> no, it isn't.
[09:50] <thoreauputic> :(
[09:50] <karel> Can anyone tell me why glxinfo keeps telling me I don't have direct rendering?
[09:50] <TrixIsOwned> this may sound super noob...
[09:50] <TrixIsOwned> but
[09:50] <TrixIsOwned> Could not find kernel image: linux
[09:51] <thoreauputic> Trinisan: try linux-image
[09:51] <karel> xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CIG0G663.html
[09:51] <BhAaD> thoreauputic: my softraid5 recently went poof, and than it recovered fine, but i dont know hwere the high load avg is coming from
[09:51] <karel> xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/paste/results/KF5twr67.html
[09:51] <karel> and glxinfo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/KKiKH484.html
[09:52] <thoreauputic> TrixIsOwned: sorry tab complete error - the above was for you
[09:52] <TrixIsOwned> ah
[09:52] <dark_light> hello, no one here uses serpentine?
[09:52] <TrixIsOwned> k
[09:52] <thoreauputic> linux-image
[09:52] <BhAaD> top output: http://blad.dyndns.org/~blad/output/top.txt
[09:52] <ArrenLex> karel: your xorg.0.log is actually another copy of your xorg.conf. Could I see the real log, please?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> dark_light: of course someone does :)
[09:53] <Zeenux> Anyone knows how well Wings 3D works on ubuntu?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[09:53] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:54] <Zeenux> :P
[09:54] <karel> Let me try: why does my radeon card not work out of the box in ubuntu?
[09:54] <ArrenLex> karel: please respond to my question.
[09:54] <ArrenLex> (01:53:05) ArrenLex: karel: your xorg.0.log is actually another copy of your xorg.conf. Could I see the real log, please?
[09:54] <karel> oh bummer sorry :)
[09:54] <dark_light> thoreauputic, it's plausible that a person here ddid't liked that odd behavior (no other app here creates temporary files at home!) and attempted to change..
[09:55] <thoreauputic> !ati > karel
[09:55] <Daverocks> karel: looks like you're using the "radeon" driver... i think you need the proprietary "fglrx" driver to enable direct rendering... but i may be wrong
[09:55] <ArrenLex> Daverocks: yes and no. It depends on the card.
[09:55] <tom47> karel it does work out of the box but not fully.  to work fully it reuires non free non opensource drivers and these cannot be distributed by ubuntu directly
[09:55] <thoreauputic> dark_light: ah sorry I missed your first post
[09:55] <TrixIsOwned> linux-image didnt work
[09:55] <TrixIsOwned> i feel stupid X__X
[09:55] <ArrenLex> tom47: radeon supports 3d acceleration for *some* ATI cards.
[09:55] <dark_light> :)
[09:56] <karel> Here is the xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/paste/results/iRjf5f39.html
[09:56] <thoreauputic> TrixIsOwned: didn't work for what?
[09:56] <TrixIsOwned> no
[09:56] <Daverocks> ArrenLex: ah thx. don't know much about the ati drivers... more experience with nvidia over my end :P
[09:56] <TrixIsOwned> does it matter if it is a cd image?
[09:56] <TrixIsOwned> :S
[09:56] <karel> I'd rather not use the fglrx drivers.  The open source ones have worked for me in the past
[09:56] <Zeenux> How do I make it so I can write on an external drive?
[09:56] <Daverocks> TrixIsOwned: your linux kernel image is a CD image? :S
[09:56] <thoreauputic> TrixIsOwned: what are you trying to do?
[09:57] <karel> I don't exactly remember wether I was using "ati" or "radeon", but I assume it was the latter
[09:57] <TrixIsOwned> er
[09:57] <TrixIsOwned> boot ubuntu X_X
[09:57] <Daverocks> TrixIsOwned: maybe you could show us the line grub is booting?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> TrixIsOwned: from the live CD ?
[09:57] <TrixIsOwned> i burned the image, inserted the disk, then it gave me that error when i rebooted
[09:57] <TrixIsOwned> :S
[09:57] <tom47> arrenlex is there a complrehensive list of which cards are fuy suported/
[09:57] <TrixIsOwned> yeah
[09:58] <thoreauputic> TrixIsOwned: did you check the CD MD5sum ?
[09:58] <tom47> *fully
[09:58] <TrixIsOwned> er... no? :(
[09:58] <Daverocks> TrixIsOwned: ah, the live CD, that's quite different
[09:58] <AlphaFaction> hey, anyone have any recommendations for an app to sync my pocket pc with?
[09:58] <smi13y> How can i change log out window in Dapper to old one from Breezy ?
[09:58] <thoreauputic> TrixIsOwned: might be a bad download or a bad burn
[09:59] <TrixIsOwned> oshi
[09:59] <TrixIsOwned> ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[09:59] <TrixIsOwned> lollol
[09:59] <TrixIsOwned> downloaded wrong image
[09:59] <dark_light> thoreauputic, when things like this happens i wish i could have an "advanced" button to enable config windows like the kde ones
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone tell me / point me to a doc on how to upgrade a connection to "Trusted" status in network-manager?  I see in the Readmes mentions of this, but nothing on how to make such a thing.
[09:59] <TrixIsOwned> go me
[09:59] <TrixIsOwned> ^^
[09:59] <thoreauputic> TrixIsOwned: that's the install CD
[09:59] <TrixIsOwned> er? o_o
[09:59] <dark_light> gnome is simple, but has few configurations to the user :(
[10:00] <TrixIsOwned> i wanted ubuntu desktop, that doesnt look like desktop? o_o
[10:00] <TrixIsOwned> wow i fail at linux
[10:00] <thoreauputic> dark_light: yeah I just had a quick look and I don't see it in the prefs - maybe try gconf-editor ?
[10:00] <karel> I may have some wrong or missing symlinks to libgl*, but I don't know which links exactly
[10:01] <thoreauputic> TrixIsOwned: if you want the live CD with the installation icon on the desktop, you need the desktop ISO :)
[10:01] <dark_light> thoreauputic, that app looks like the windows registry.. i fear it :(
[10:01] <TrixIsOwned> i want the one that i can just boot :S
[10:01] <TrixIsOwned> er...
[10:01] <Zeenux> how does one log in as the superuser?b (sudo something)
[10:01] <TrixIsOwned> lol i give up :(
[10:01] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm having a problem with networking. I loose my DNS server settings every time I turn the system off, and have to re-enter them at every boot.
[10:01] <thoreauputic> TrixIsOwned: you want the desktop CD then
[10:01] <orangisengbanget> hi
[10:01] <Lattyware> which is annoying.
[10:01] <Daverocks> i used the alternate install image to install ubuntu dapper and it worked fine... hmm
[10:01] <screechingcat> Zeenux, from GDM ?
[10:01] <orangisengbanget> how do solve this E: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf:2: Extra junk at end of file
[10:02] <orangisengbanget> ?
[10:02] <orangisengbanget> what does that extra junk really mean?
[10:02] <dark_light> thoreauputic, but i will give a try, thanks!
[10:02] <Lattyware> Zeenux: sudo bash for a root shell, sudo <command> to do somthing as root.
[10:02] <thoreauputic> dark_light: I know what you mean - but just make notes so  you can revert changes
[10:02] <screechingcat> Lattyware, i had the same problem. never really fisxed it.
[10:02] <Zeenux> uh, im not sure what GDM is
[10:02] <screechingcat> Zeenux, the screen where u normally login
[10:02] <Lattyware> screechingcat: hmmm
[10:03] <Zeenux> well, what I am trying to do is make it so I can write to my external drive, apparently im not allowed.
[10:03] <screechingcat> Lattyware, try entering it in your resolv.conf file
[10:03] <Lattyware> Zeenux: Do a sudo nautilus then use that to set the permissions.
[10:03] <Lattyware> Or use sudo chmod, if you have the know-how.
[10:03] <screechingcat> Zeenux, get the nautilus-root-here script
[10:03] <Lattyware> screechingcat: OK.
[10:03] <dark_light> thoreauputic, err - only bool options, a int, and a string setted to.. use_max_speed. it's a unlucky day.. and i clicked without notice in some options, and i am not happy with this.. heheheh
[10:04] <keithhhh> does anyone play doomlegacy??
[10:04] <Zeenux> get the nautilus-root-here ?
[10:04] <screechingcat> Zeenux, it will allow you to run just nautilus in root mode while logged in as a normal user
[10:04] <Lattyware> screechingcat: where would I find that? /etc/resolv.conf?
[10:04] <screechingcat> Lattyware, its unique. just search
[10:04] <Lattyware> ok
[10:05] <Zeenux> ok, so this is all via terminal?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> dark_light: hmm - maybe try gnomebaker ( not sure if it uses /tmp though)
[10:05] <ArrenLex> karel: missing symlinks to libgl*? apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dri
[10:05] <kingos> hello, can someone please tell me how in apt to go back to "official" versions of packages, without having to go through manually and force each one?
[10:05] <ArrenLex> karel: but everything looks fine. I don't know why it doesn't work. Sorry. = /
[10:06] <screechingcat> Zeenux, uh hold on a sec
[10:06] <kingos> the reason; I tried to update to edgy, and got the following problem in /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log:
[10:06] <kingos> Package xorg has broken dep on libgl1-mesa-dri
[10:06] <thoreauputic> kingos: try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:06] <Lattyware> Oh, and also, If I boot up my PC, and my headphones are plugged in, I get no audio, if my speakers are plugged in, it works.
[10:06] <Lattyware> Which seems really wierd.
[10:06] <Zeenux> sudo nautilus opened a window. socket, cache, tmp are prefixes to three folders, and then desktop and share
[10:06] <thoreauputic> kingos: but if you have already fiddled, that may not help
[10:07] <dark_light> thoreauputic, hmmm.. well, for now i will delete some things in my home, seems easier..
[10:07] <thoreauputic> Zeenux: try hitting ctrl-h and look for /.hidden
[10:07] <screechingcat> Zeenux, k here's the link. download the script and put it in your ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts dir
[10:07] <screechingcat> Zeenux, http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/nautilus-scripts/Execute/Misc/root-nautilus-here
[10:07] <kingos> thoreauputic: I have installed packages from some external repository. I removed the source from my sources.list, but now want to just downgrade back to the official versions. I thought there would be some option to "upgrade" to the latest known version in your sources.list?
[10:08] <TheGateKeeper> kingos: you want to go back to dapper?
[10:08] <thoreauputic> kingos: if you have used third party repos, all bets are off - although you can purge the packages then reinstall them
[10:08] <Jazon> hi everyone.  after using automatix (and installing kde 3.5.3 with it along with a lot of other stuff) my friend's laptop (ubuntu dapper) gets grub error 17.  what did we do ?
[10:09] <thoreauputic> Jazon: you used automatix :(
[10:09] <screechingcat> Zeenux, then right click and edit the file permissions to make it executable. now just hit the reload button. and you will have a new menu in your rightclick called scripts
[10:09] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[10:09] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:09] <kingos> TheGateKeeper: I am already on dapper ... my upgrade to edgy failed, because I have some packages it can't handle that I installed from a broken external repository
[10:09] <Jazon> thx thoreauputic
[10:09] <mike__> use at your own risk.. ^^
[10:09] <screechingcat> Jazon, automatix does nothing to GRUB
[10:09] <Jazon> thats what  i thought!
[10:10] <Zeenux> uh, doesn't tab auto-complete someone's name'?
[10:10] <Jazon> screechingcat: so why all of a sudden the error...
[10:10] <Zeenux> screechingcat: do i need to restart after placing the script?
[10:10] <screechingcat> Jazon, its not related to automatix. its prolly something else
[10:10] <thoreauputic> Jazon: have you googled "grub error 17" ?
[10:10] <Jazon> yes
[10:10] <screechingcat> Zeenux, no. just hit reload
[10:10] <mike__> is there a way to add up repositories in automatix?
[10:11] <Zeenux> ok
[10:11] <thoreauputic>  >>>>> #automatix
[10:11] <screechingcat> Zeenux, u did make it executable right ?
[10:11] <mike__> ok thanx
[10:11] <Zeenux> not sure what that means
[10:11] <Zeenux> i saved the fileand put it into the folder
[10:11] <keithhhh> can someone tell me the file name to activate doomlegacy??
[10:11] <factotum> how do i switch runlevels down to just a bash shell, init somethingorother?
[10:11] <Lattyware> screechingcat: Do you know of a script that'll do a 'Open Terminal Here'?
[10:11] <Ramunas> morning everybody :)
[10:11] <screechingcat> Zeenux, ok, right click the script and got to permisssions
[10:12] <thoreauputic> factotum:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:12] <factotum> thx
[10:12] <screechingcat> Lattyware, - http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[10:12] <kingos> also, has anyone had a problem using the beta cd under x64? It crashes with some error about "invalid argument" when trying to mount my cdrom
[10:12] <jasper`> Having a few "Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block #######" problems booting into the Ubuntu LiveDVD. Any hints or should I wait it out?
[10:12] <factotum> mustard77
[10:12] <Lattyware> screechingcat: Thanks, I just installed the one you suggested, it's nice.
[10:12] <thoreauputic> screechingcat:  nautilus-open IIRC
[10:12] <Kalisto> hello, im looking to add German to my Evolution Mail Reader Spell Check, anyone know what package i havt to apt-get for that?
[10:13] <screechingcat> thoreauputic, pardon ?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> oops Lattyware
[10:13] <Leumas> can someone give me the name of a reliable audio player?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> screechingcat: sorry
[10:13] <thoreauputic> Leumas: lots - what do you want to play?
[10:13] <Zeenux> what do I edit in permissions?
[10:13] <screechingcat> Zeenux, check the box on top for "executable"
[10:13] <Lattyware> heh
[10:14] <thoreauputic> Lattyware: I like quodlibet - YMMV ( cplay is simple for the CLI too)
[10:14] <Zeenux> i see execute
[10:14] <Zeenux> that is?
[10:14] <Zeenux> that it*
[10:14] <screechingcat> Zeenux, yup
[10:15] <Zeenux> just the top, not all three?
[10:15] <thoreauputic> bah I keep usingwrongnicks - sorry
[10:15] <screechingcat> Zeenux, just the top
[10:15] <Zeenux> ok, juuuust checking :)
[10:15] <Zeenux> thanks for the patience
[10:15] <thoreauputic> Leumas: I like quodlibet or cplay for the CLI
[10:15] <screechingcat> Zeenux, wait. u have only one user on your comp right ?
[10:15] <Zeenux> yea
[10:15] <Zeenux> just me
[10:15] <screechingcat> Zeenux, then just the top
[10:16] <Jazon> if you install kde on ubuntu, does it effectively become kubuntu?
[10:16] <screechingcat> Zeenux, when you are done, hit reload. now right click anywhere in the sreen, in the drop down menu, go to the scripts > root-nautlius-here and thats should do it
[10:16] <Zeenux> i don't see a reload?
[10:16] <Leumas> thoreauputic: (sorry, was setting up VNC) i was thinking just audio. MP3, OGG, WMA, M4A?
[10:17] <screechingcat> Zeenux, its on top. next to back forward, up dircetory
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Leumas: you need to read the restricted formats wiki I think
[10:17] <Zeenux> oh, ok
[10:17] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[10:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:17] <jisatsu> I've got a laptop with a 1280x800 monitor, but Ubuntu is using 1024x768 even though xorg.conf says the right values. any ideas why?
[10:17] <Zeenux> ok, reloaded
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Leumas: wma and M4a are the tricky ones in that list I guess
[10:17] <screechingcat> now right click anywhere in the sreen, in the drop down menu, go to the scripts > root-nautlius-here and thats should do it
[10:18] <Leumas> yeah, that's what i thought
[10:18] <screechingcat> thoreauputic, mplayer and vlc can handle anything
[10:18] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[10:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:18] <Zeenux> so now i can edit permissions for the external?
[10:18] <thoreauputic> screechingcat: mplayer yes with w32codecs, vlc not everything
[10:18] <thoreauputic> screechingcat: vlc chokes on some codecs
[10:18] <screechingcat> thoreauputic, and now there's a bmp-wma package in PLF that works very well
[10:19] <Zeenux> I may have screwed up, still won't let me edit the external'
[10:19] <thoreauputic> screechingcat: hmm OK :)
[10:19] <Zeenux> s permission
[10:19] <screechingcat> Zeenux, what exactly are u trying to do ?
[10:19] <jasper`> jisatsu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-190237.html
[10:19] <Zeenux> i have an external hard drive
[10:19] <Zeenux> I want write permissions
[10:20] <Lattyware> Oh, that's a point, Can anyone tell me how you can change the audio track/subtitles track in mPlayer?
[10:20] <Leumas> fstab is the file you want
[10:20] <Lattyware> It's the only reason I don't use it.
[10:20] <Leumas> zeenux
[10:20] <Leumas> what file system?
[10:20] <Zeenux> Leu, talking to me?
[10:20] <screechingcat> yeah. so do this -  just open up nautilus and right click anywhere. in the drop down menu, select scripts > root-nautilus-here. it will ask for passowrd. enter it. you are now root
[10:21] <screechingcat> Zeenux, ^^^^^
[10:21] <Leumas> yes
[10:21] <jasper`> What's device dm-0 ?
[10:21] <Zeenux> ok, ill try that
[10:21] <Leumas> screechingcat: you're forgetting NTFS
[10:21] <jisatsu> jasper`:  thanks :) I'll take a look
[10:22] <screechingcat> oh yeah. Zeenux what filesystem is it
[10:22] <Zeenux> ntfs :P
[10:22] <screechingcat> Zeenux, damn
[10:22] <Leumas> do you have another computer?
[10:22] <thoreauputic> !ntfs-3g
[10:22] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[10:22] <Zeenux> I have another comp, yes
[10:22] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[10:22] <GNAM> when they put 2.6.17 on edgy?
[10:22] <Leumas> i suggest mapping the network drive
[10:23] <screechingcat> Zeenux, ntfs is not writable thru linux (normally) but u can use ntfs-3g which is very solid tho in beta
[10:23] <thoreauputic> see above URLs
[10:23] <Zeenux> what is writable then?
[10:23] <thoreauputic> fat32
[10:23] <Lattyware> Anyone know how to change audo/subtitle tracks in mPlayer?
[10:23] <Leumas> fat, fat32, ext3
[10:23] <Leumas> ext2
[10:23] <Zeenux> fat vs fat32, which should i go for?
[10:23] <Leumas> is the mac one writable yet?
[10:23] <screechingcat> Zeenux, just follow the link that thoreauputic gave you
[10:23] <thoreauputic> fat32
[10:23] <Lattyware> fat32
[10:23] <Leumas> fat32 supports bigger files
[10:23] <Lattyware> unles you want files no larger than 16mb or somthing stupid.
[10:24] <Leumas> :D
[10:24] <Leumas> i'm using fat32 right now
[10:24] <Lattyware> fat32 only hadles up to 4GB in a single file though.
[10:24] <Jazon> i don't understand how running automatix could affect grub :s
[10:24] <Lattyware> I run everything under Ext3.
[10:24] <screechingcat> Jazon, it dosent
[10:24] <Zeenux> can windows read/write ext3?
[10:24] <crazy_penguin> Good morning to all!
[10:24] <screechingcat> Jazon, what did google turn up ?
[10:24] <Leumas> idk :S
[10:24] <Lattyware> Zeenux: Not nativly, but there are programs that allow it to.
[10:24] <Leumas> i don't think so
[10:24] <Daverocks> Zeenux: not by default, but if you install some drivers, it can
[10:24] <Lattyware> heh
[10:24] <Jazon> screechingcat: i also made a mistake - it is error 18 :(
[10:25] <Zeenux> hmmmm, might be worth checking out then
[10:25] <screechingcat> Zeenux, with a deiver called the e2fs driver yes
[10:25] <Zeenux> ok, sweet
[10:25] <chimaera> Zeenux: there's some tools that enable you to do so.. not very convenient, though
[10:25] <Zeenux> screeching, really, thanks for the help
[10:25] <screechingcat> Jazon, so google error 18. see what it says
[10:25] <Jazon> screechingcat: the only thing we did was automatix, and winecfg.  shut down went normal.  upon reboot, error 18
[10:25] <Zeenux> as with the rest of you :P
[10:25] <Leumas> !audio
[10:25] <Lattyware> Frankly, after running Ubuntu, I've booted into windows about 3-4 times.
[10:25] <Leumas> gah
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <screechingcat> Zeenux, no prob
[10:25] <Lattyware> I don't need to access my files from windows.
[10:26] <Zeenux> only reason I touch windows now is due to school. :P
[10:26] <Jazon> Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS  This error is returned when a read is attempted at a linear block address beyond the end of the BIOS translated area.
[10:26] <Lattyware> Zeenux: Indeed.
[10:26] <Zeenux> else id have ubuntu on my laptop
[10:26] <Leumas> i'm using Windows right now over VNC. does that count?
[10:26] <Lattyware> They even force us to use IE at school :/
[10:26] <Zeenux> but some things cannot be replaced :\
[10:26] <Zeenux> god
[10:26] <Zeenux> same here, but i have Firefox Portable on my thumb :P
[10:26] <screechingcat> Jazon, reinstall grub from the live cd
[10:26] <Daverocks> Lattyware: heh, i use FX portable :D
[10:26] <Leumas> I was about to suggest that Zeenux :P
[10:26] <Lattyware> Zeenux: Tried that, doesn't work.
[10:26] <jasper`> Jazon, disk on autodetect?
[10:27] <Zeenux> wow, thats really terrible
[10:27] <Lattyware> They lock us down, we can't do anything.
[10:27] <chimaera> the only reason i touch wintendo is because i'm slightly addicted to a infamous MMORPG ^^
[10:27] <Zeenux> college or high school
[10:27] <Zeenux> ?
[10:27] <Lattyware> High School.
[10:27] <Zeenux> can never really tell nowadays :P
[10:27] <screechingcat> my school is planning a switch to Red Hat next year. could be cool
[10:27] <Lattyware> Nice,
[10:28] <Daverocks> Lattyware: depends how much they lock you down... i figured that if they allow executables like "winword.exe" to be run, you can just rename the FXP launcher to "winword.exe" and it works... but you probably have a different system
[10:28] <Zeenux> i know folks (college) who type like a 12 year old on AOL.
[10:28] <jasper`> Outlook isn't too bad.
[10:28] <Jazon> jasper`: not sure.  system not here right now.  what are you thinking?
[10:28] <Lattyware> yeah, unfortunatly, our IT techs, allthough idiots, know how to lock things down.
[10:28] <Zeenux> I have completley switched over to OpenOffice.org as soon as I heard of it.
[10:28] <jasper`> Jazon, bios update, of course.
[10:28] <Jazon> jasper`: outlooks forward capabilities suck!  well, they barely exist really.....
[10:28] <Lattyware> Fortunatly, I still have a large knowlaedge of windows, and I can bypass alot of the security.
[10:28] <jasper`> openoffice is a nasty suit.
[10:28] <Zeenux> oo.org is great! :)
[10:29] <Jazon> jasper`: so after a month of 100% it started doing this after mucking about with automatix... strange isnt it
[10:29] <jasper`> runs like a paraplegic on my systems
[10:29] <Lattyware> It's hilarious actually, they have been going on about how we can't use OO.org or things like that, as people 'Will be confused by the interface'.
[10:29] <Daverocks> hahahaha
[10:29] <screechingcat> Jazon, what did #automatix say ?
[10:29] <Zeenux> Jesus, we had to convince our school to go with XP Pro...schools just have no way to gauge the rapid advancement in IT, theyve fallen behind.
[10:30] <Jazon> Zeenux: it is good.  i am doing my thesis with it.
[10:30] <Lattyware> And yet, months later, we had to use a program suit made by the goverment for this test thing.
[10:30] <Jazon> screechingcat: nothing yet :/
[10:30] <Lattyware> And it had this really incredibly hard to use interface.
[10:30] <Lattyware> Where you couldn't use more than one program at once and stuff.
[10:30] <Lattyware> lol
[10:30] <Flannel> guys, take this the windows/etc/whatever discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:30] <Zeenux> Ubuntu was the subject of my photoshop final :P
[10:30] <screechingcat> Jazon,  reinstall grub from the live cd
[10:30] <Leumas> hey, how can i add a "universe repository" to my package manager?
[10:30] <Flannel> !tell Leumas about universe
[10:30] <Leumas> ty :)
[10:31] <jasper`> Leumas, remove the hash in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:31] <DeeTahPanLtah> i heard there's some better windows emulator than wine,but free (not cedega). i think it was called winex-cvs. anyone knows what i could mean?
[10:31] <DeeTahPanLtah> ...and where to get it from?
[10:31] <Jazon> screechingcat: ok.  is it obvious how to do that?
[10:31] <thoreauputic> please take non-ubuntu discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:31] <DeeTahPanLtah> thoreauputic: which one exactly you meant?
[10:31] <Flannel> DeeTahPanLtah: not you
[10:31] <screechingcat> just search the forums for "GRUB windows MBR" and you should find your answer
[10:32] <jasper`> and we all know ubuntu-offtopic is the bastion of free speech, thoreauputic!
[10:32] <thoreauputic> jasper`: well, more or less, yeah
[10:32] <DeeTahPanLtah> anyone could please help me?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:32] <jasper`> Is it normal to be seeing 10 minutes of "buffer i/o error on device dm-0" trying to boot off the liveDVD?
[10:32] <Jazon> i feel that anything people are doing on a ubuntu box is on topic, no?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> jasper`: unless I don't like you, then you get kick-banned *grin*
[10:32] <Jazon> lol - jasper - i would think now
[10:32] <jasper`> Jazon, humans are not natively adept at logical discourse.
[10:32] <Zeenux> Just a general question. Besides Adept and Synaptic, can I simply download a program not found in either of those and install it? What are the drawbacks to that?
[10:32] <Flannel> Jazon: #ubuntu is for support related discussions only
[10:32] <Jazon> thoreauputic: lol
[10:33] <chimaera> DeeTahPanLtah: a) winex-cvs can be a pain in the ass to install, and there are no binaries for its's not allowed to distribte them
[10:33] <DeeTahPanLtah> Zeenux: it's called downloading sources and compiling
[10:33] <oga> ok i dont' know whta i've done..... everything in totem was running fine then i installed a plugin for firefox now all of my codecs are missing or not working.... *.mp3, *.avi everything is busted and i don't know why... any suggestions as to how to fix it?
[10:33] <Daverocks> oga: which plugin?
[10:33] <Jazon> jasper`: i agree with that as well... "humans are not natively adept at logical discourse."
[10:33] <thoreauputic> Jazon: this is the supposrt channel - other stuff goes in -offtopic :)
[10:33] <thoreauputic> *support
[10:34] <Jazon> nobody answered my previous question... if you install kde in ubuntu, does it effectively become kubuntu?
[10:34] <oga> daverocks totem-xine-firefox-flugin
[10:34] <jasper`> Jazon, well, it's stating the obvious really. But I put it there for the benefit of the younger folks. You wouldn't happen to know about buffer i/o error on device dm-0s would you? =) Nothing wrong with the HDD as far as I know.
[10:34] <botxj> what's a "flugin" ?
[10:34] <Flannel> Jazon: they'd be both installed, yes.
[10:34] <thoreauputic> Jazon: you install kubuntu-desktop, and you get a choice at login
[10:34] <Jazon> thoreauputic: i stand corrected, and see the advantages of that
[10:35] <oga> *plugin
[10:35] <Zeenux> Well, I mean. I want to install wings 3d on here, because I despise GIMP and want a reason to work on my linux :)
[10:35] <thoreauputic> botxj: a typo :)
[10:35] <Daverocks> oga: hmm, not sure
[10:35] <botxj> ohhh, ya meant plugin
[10:35] <chimaera> DeeTahPanLtah: http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page
[10:35] <DeeTahPanLtah> ty
[10:35] <babo> I have an ubuntu install of apache. but it doesn't seem to have the apxs tool ... ?
[10:35] <Daverocks> oga: maybe try look at "about:plugins" in firefox, see what suffixes the plugin has assigned
[10:35] <bonzai10> hello
[10:36] <bonzai10> q: can i install ubuntu without CD or DVD from ftp ?
[10:36] <Jazon> jasper`: no, sorry.  hmmmmm although... i have seen buffer i/o errors on my external hdd occur when it doesnt get enough power (when i have 4 usb devices plugged in at the same time, there is too much drain on the usb i think, and it happens consistently.... is the dvd external or usb or something?)
[10:36] <oga> daverocks i'm trying something at the moment i think the plugin may have replaced totem-gstreamer with totem-xine
[10:37] <botxj> omg on my about:plugins for windows for firefox at the bottom there's a Microsoft DRM plugin
[10:37] <oga> got it
[10:37] <Flannel> bonzai10: sort of
[10:37] <jasper`> Jazon, nope, DVD/CD combi drive on a laptop. CD side of it doesn't work (DVD works perfectly). HDD etc is all internal. Whole thing is sitting on AC right now.
[10:37] <Flannel> !tell bonzai10 about install
[10:37] <Zeenux> I have a .run file, a shell script that is supposed to be the installer for Linux Wings 3D. Someone mentioned compiling, how do I go about this?
[10:37] <Daverocks> oga: working?
[10:37] <oga> daverocks yep
[10:37] <webben> I'm a stickler for curly quotes. I'd like to set up some key mappings in Gnome to enter such quotes, perhaps along the lines the mac uses: http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2003/12/18/curly_straight.html#comment9
[10:37] <Daverocks> oga: cool =)
[10:37] <webben> What tool would I need to do that?
[10:37] <oga> i guess i didn't read the warnings properly on synaptics
[10:37] <jasper`> logical block 9037898.. 99. . 00.. 01.. 02, it goes on ad infinitum.
[10:37] <thoreauputic> Zeenux: usually you run ".run" files, you don't compile them :)
[10:38] <Daverocks> Zeenux: you should be able to execute a .run file after chmod'ing it to be executable
[10:38] <Zeenux> it opened it in Kate
[10:38] <Flannel> jasper`: I had that once with a bad HD, but if you say there's no bad HD, there probably isnt ;)
[10:38] <Jazon> jasper`: this sounds like an error i have seen b4 actually.... a friends laptop where cd no good, dvd worked.  try different media - it worked on hers....
[10:38] <thoreauputic> Zeenux: try ./foo.run
[10:38] <Daverocks> Zeenux: try ./whatever.run
[10:38] <Zeenux> where would I type that in?
[10:38] <Jazon> jasper`: also, how did you burn the disk?  DAO?  at what speed?
[10:38] <Daverocks> Zeenux: bash
[10:38] <mike> "We're sorry, your browser is not supported by AIM Express. The browsers supported are:
[10:38] <mike>     * Internet Explorer 5.5 and up
[10:38] <mike>     * Firefox 1.0 and up
[10:38] <mike>     * Netscape 7.1 and up
[10:38] <mike>     * Mozilla 1.4 and up" im using firefox
[10:38] <bonzai10> thanx, that was what i wanted :>
[10:38] <thoreauputic> Zeenux: in the terminal, in the directory the file is in
[10:38] <botxj> aim express is stupid
[10:38] <jasper`> Jazon, whipped it up on Deepburn, only speed available was 16x (max for disk).
[10:39] <Zeenux> is bash the terminal?
[10:39] <mike> yeah i know.. what can i do i need it :D
[10:39] <thoreauputic> Zeenux: bash runs in the terminal, yes
[10:39] <Zeenux> ok, that clears stuff up
[10:39] <Jazon> channel:  what is the reccomnded procedure for burning the livecd from deepburn?
[10:39] <thoreauputic> Zeenux: bash is the CLI shell that runs in the terminal
[10:39] <oga> new question: i'm interested in starting a blog... but i'd like some info on what i need with regards to software etc. i'm looking at fortnightly updates, registered users, options for comments, archiving of old information and the possible incorporation of a community edited wiki
[10:39] <Flannel> mike: use GAIM
[10:40] <babo> guys does anyone know anything about the missing apxs tool for apache ?
[10:40] <oga> with above: software & hosting
[10:40] <Zeenux> I got a permission denied
[10:40] <botxj> omg, have they fixed the XGL repositories yet?
[10:40] <Flannel> mike: also, you might be getting that because of javascript turned off, if you have it disabled
[10:40] <Jazon> oga: you need something like joomla.  (a CMS)  google cms (content managent system)
[10:40] <Flannel> botxj: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL questions
[10:40] <mike> ok thanx
[10:40] <jasper`> Jazon, nfi which way it burns an iso. Will try another DVD via another prog.
[10:40] <oga> Jazon thanks
[10:41] <Flannel> jasper`: burn at 4x, by the way
[10:41] <Daverocks> Zeenux: do "ls -l whatever.run"... what are the permissions and owner?
[10:41] <babo> never mind
[10:41] <Jazon> jasper`: try k3b, do it slow and DAO  (disk at once)
[10:42] <Xzanron> anyone able to help me get (k)ubuntu installed please?
[10:42] <Zeenux> ls-l command not found
[10:42] <Xzanron> it refuses to detect my hard drive
[10:42] <jasper`> Zeenux, ls -l
[10:42] <Zeenux> yeah, ill just cnp that now :P
[10:43] <jasper`> Jazon, nice prog.. if you're burning from Linux.
[10:43] <Zeenux> -rw-r--r-- 1 zaven zaven
[10:43] <Flannel> babo: you need apache-dev (in universe)
[10:43] <Zeenux> thats the permissions
[10:43] <Daverocks> Zeenux: chmod +x whatever.run
[10:44] <mnepton> harumph
[10:45] <mnepton> i really need to package this irc client. but no time this weekend. :/
[10:45] <babo> Flannel: got it thanks ...
[10:45] <shinobi2> which is the best term to use?
[10:45] <Flannel> !best
[10:45] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:45] <Jazon> jasper`: you not on linux.... sorry... there is a really slick trick by the way for running a live cd from an iso image you copy onto a small partition on your hard drive.  it is faster than running a livecd and it also frees up your optical drive ;)
[10:46] <Zeenux> i got this: Installing Wings 3D 0.98.32a in /home/zaven/wings-0.98.32a, and then it stopped, went to a blank line
[10:47] <Gasten> os[Linux 2.6.15-27-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Pentium III (Coppermine) @ 733MHz]  mem[Physical : 377MB, 54.8% free]  disk[Total : 36.06GB, 48.40% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] ]  sound[EMU10K1 - SBLive! Value [CT4830] ] 
[10:47] <Zeenux> does that mean it was a success?
[10:47] <Gasten> ops..
[10:47] <Gasten> sorry
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Zeenux: silence is golden
[10:47] <Zeenux> silence truly is
[10:47] <rasket> hi, i have a question about ubuntu installation
[10:47] <Zeenux> so, how do I run my new program? :)
[10:47] <Daverocks> Zeenux: it's probably working on it
[10:48] <Zeenux> oh
[10:48] <Zeenux> ok
[10:48] <Daverocks> Zeenux: has the installation script finished?
[10:48] <thoreauputic> Zeenux: so look in /home/zaven/wings-0.98.32a for the executable
[10:48] <Daverocks> Zeenux: wait until it's finished installing before you look for anything
[10:48] <thoreauputic> Zeenux: assuming you are backa t aprompt...
[10:48] <Zeenux> sweet, yeah, that folder is there
[10:48] <rasket> btw. ubuntu realy changed my opion about linux distri
[10:49] <Zeenux> on windows, i look for the .exe  What am I looking for here?
[10:49] <Zeenux> ah, the shell script thats called Wings :)
[10:49] <Daverocks> Zeenux: most likely, yes =)
[10:49] <Zeenux> sweet, now I can go ahead and install GIMPshop
[10:50] <Jazon> jasper`: if you want to know more about doing that, pm me
[10:50] <rasket> is it possible to install ubuntu out of the live dvd ?
[10:50] <Flannel> rasket: yes
[10:50] <rasket> how ? where is the install script and package progs ?
[10:51] <jasper`> Jazon, I am on information overload this week.. so many projects to finish. Have you a URL I can stash away for later reference?
[10:51] <Jazon> sure
[10:51] <Jazon> one sec
[10:52] <rasket> i am not sure if i am root during a live dvd boot ...
[10:52] <pixelfairy> anyone else here getting
[10:52] <pixelfairy> unauthenticated packages from updates?
[10:53] <jasper`> last time I had one of those problems I hadn't done the update for a couple of months. the romanians solved the problem.
[10:53] <pixelfairy> the romainians?
[10:54] <jasper`> hacked me to pieces. that's my story for arriving at ubuntu. tried an apt-get clean?
[10:54] <YogSothoth> this is not about Gentoo I can't remember an English rap band, very smart guys, one white and on black. See what I mean ? Can't remember the name of it!
[10:54] <Lattyware> Anyone know how to change audo/subtitle tracks in mPlayer?
[10:54] <Flannel> YogSothoth: #ubuntu-offtopic (this is not #gentoo either, by the way)
[10:55] <jasper`> Jazon, looks like a new dvd/cd drive is in order. still not sure what exactly 'dm-0' is in device terms.
[10:55] <Leuma1> hey what command do i use to configure xserver?
[10:55] <Lattyware> gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Leuma1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:56] <hoelk> YogSothoth the streets?
[10:56] <Leuma1> it was like dpkg xserver-xorg or something :-S
[10:56] <shinobi2> where can i get more icons when i do a 'custom application launcher'?
[10:56] <Leuma1> that one! thankyo
[10:56] <Leuma1> u
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Lattyware: deprecated ;)
[10:56] <jasper`> dpkg install --configure package_name ?
[10:56] <antoniojulio> please howto display a memory of the video card?
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Lattyware: also won't work without gksudo :)
[10:56] <Jazon> jasper`: do the iso thing.... url forthcoming
[10:56] <rasket> so if its possible to install ubuntu after starting from a live dvd, how should i start ? just got 'permission denied' with apt-get
[10:57] <notwist> I was wondering how I can get to extract .rar files? I've looked around but I can't seem to understand how :(
[10:57] <jasper`> antoniojulio, not sure, but if you look for VGA ... controller on `lspci` you can google the video card model.
[10:57] <Flannel> rasket: isn't there an install icon on the desktop?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> !unrar
[10:57] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:57] <rasket> Flannel: no, only cdrom and my usb stick
[10:57] <ciano> hallo
[10:58] <notwist> !info unrar-free
[10:58] <mdkaneda> anyone know how to setup proftpd properly? i used the guide at "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588&highlight=ftp+server" and i'm still having an issue... i can connect, but it wont list the directory... maybe permission issues?
[10:58] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[10:58] <jasper`> Jazon, apparently the same problem occurs (buffer I/O error on device dm-0) regardless of the DVD used.
[10:58] <antoniojulio> jasper` ok thanks
[10:58] <jasper`> Jazon, yes, unable to reply.
[10:58] <ciano> there is an italian?
[10:58] <Jazon> jasper`: see the private message?
[10:58] <Jazon> ok
[10:58] <Flannel> rasket: and there is no install option at boot?
[11:00] <pixelfairy> wierd... apt-get update fixed it. makes me wonder what the udate manager does
[11:00] <rasket> Flanell: yes there is, but the dvd has a prob with one of the packages (cant be extracted) so it fails to install, and there is no way to change the source from dvd to internet, so i thought of booting the live dvd and try it again
[11:00] <pixelfairy> i mean apt-get upgrade
[11:00] <Jazon> jasper`: got that?
[11:00] <Flannel> rasket: ah, you must not have burned the DVD slow enough, or some other reason for a bad burn
[11:01] <Flannel> rasket: then I suppose theres no ubiquity on the DVD
[11:01] <rasket> Flannel: seems so :-(    ubiquity ?
[11:01] <notwist> E: Paketet unrar har ingen installationskandidat
[11:01] <notwist> oops
[11:01] <notwist> sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:01] <Flannel> notwist: you need multiverse
[11:01] <notwist> that doesn't work for me
[11:01] <thoreauputic> !repos
[11:01] <notwist> Flannel: what's that?
[11:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:02] <Flannel> rasket: ubiquity is the installer the liveCD uses
[11:02] <babo> what are the services start scripts in ubuntu called again ?
[11:02] <babo> /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql start ?
[11:02] <thoreauputic> babo: they are in /etc/init.d/
[11:02] <babo> thoreauputic, cool thanks
[11:03] <notwist> Flannel: what's multiverse? :/
[11:03] <thoreauputic> !multiverse
[11:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:03] <notwist> oh
[11:03] <notwist> thanks
[11:03] <thoreauputic> notwist: read the URLs
[11:03] <rasket> Flannel: no, could not find a file named ubiquity; can i download a basic ubuntu or the bad package to a drive and switch there during install ?
[11:04] <Flannel> rasket: you can download the alternate ISO and install from that, yeah.
[11:04] <notwist> !easysource
[11:04] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:05] <Flannel> rasket: or, just re-burn the DVD, if you burned > 4x
[11:05] <babo> configure: error: libmysqlclient is needed for MySQL support
[11:06] <babo> I've already installed libmysqlclient10 ...
[11:06] <Flannel> !tell babo about lamp
[11:06] <rasket> Flannel: unfortunately i only have 4gb partition to use i will try if its enough space
[11:06] <zerogrounding> hello
[11:06] <Flannel> rasket: then yeah. grab the alternate ISO and use that
[11:06] <babo> Flannel: what about lamp ?
[11:06] <zerogrounding> hei,, there are some one who have vmware
[11:06] <babo> Flannel: ah ... got it thanks
[11:06] <rasket> Flannel: hmm do i have a dvd burner ?
[11:06] <thoreauputic> !lamp
[11:06] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[11:07] <Flannel> rasket: er... I dont know?
[11:07] <rasket> Flannel: sw to burn a dvd, not the hardware :-)
[11:07] <pwk> hi
[11:07] <pwk> i got a quick question
[11:07] <zerogrounding> hi can i join this convers?
[11:07] <KenSentMe> Which font does my Ubuntu terminal use?
[11:08] <pwk> i was wondering. will vmware 5.1  be able to run bntu fast... like can it run vmware tools
[11:08] <KenSentMe> zerogrounding: you are always welcome
[11:08] <pwk> ?
[11:08] <Flannel> rasket: ah, yes.  download the ISO and ubuntu knows what to do with it ;)
[11:08] <Lobster> vmware runs on ubuntu if that is your question, pwk
[11:08] <mnepton> pwk: yes, the VMWare tools for Linux run under Ubuntu. but there are issues, especially with timekeeping.
[11:09] <pwk> k, thxs
[11:09] <babo> What's the story with security.ubuntu.com ? ... is someone signing packages now or something ?
[11:09] <zerogrounding> eh ,, last day i installed vmware, but it didn't work yet
[11:09] <zerogrounding> any idea?
[11:09] <Flannel> babo: packages have always been signed
[11:09] <rasket> Flannel: ok, but i could not find an application to burn cd/dvd around my desktop .. sure ubuntu knows what to do ?
[11:09] <jasper`> Jazon, cheers, received the message. Will examine after my breakfast at the local al-Mustik. Much obliged - so long1
[11:10] <Zeenux> how do I change my resolution in Ubuntu using KDE?
[11:10] <notwist> I guess this is a stupid question, but where am i supposed to put sources.list?
[11:10] <rasket> ls
[11:10] <pwk> cause i'm having troubles with vist'as bootloader and stuff or i would install as a s instead of vmware
[11:10] <rasket> ls
[11:10] <Flannel> rasket: yeah
[11:10] <rasket> oop
[11:10] <zerogrounding> try k3b for burning dvd
[11:10] <notwist> Zeenux: did you try looking around in the menus?
[11:10] <Zeenux> yeah, i can't find the same thing that was with Ubuntu
[11:10] <notwist> thoreauputic: I guess this is a stupid question, but where am i supposed to put sources.list?
[11:10] <Zeenux> too many Kprograms... :\
[11:10] <Flannel> notwist: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:10] <notwist> Flannel: thx
[11:11] <babo> Flannel: yeah, by who though ? ...
[11:11] <babo> Flannel: are packages in the universe considered safe ?
[11:11] <Flannel> babo: yes
[11:11] <rasket> Flannel: thanks i will try this, cu and have a nice day :-)
[11:11] <babo> Flannel: why ?
[11:11] <Flannel> babo: why shouldn't they be?
[11:12] <notwist> Flannel: ok so i edited the sources.list but i still get an error when running apt-get for "unrar", says there is no install candidate
[11:12] <Flannel> notwist: did you sudo apt-get update afterwards?
[11:12] <notwist> no :) sry
[11:12] <notwist> there we are
[11:13] <bonzai10> im having dificulties with netboot instalation, can anyone help ? first of all guide doesn't include HOWTO instalation without any linux distro. I want to install ubuntu and i dont have any unix partitions and floppy, i have CD-ROM which is busted so i can't install it as usuall, what do i do ?
[11:13] <notwist> !rar
[11:13] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:13] <babo> Flannel: well, pretty much anyone can pull together a .deb and put it in the multiverse/universe right ?
[11:13] <Flannel> babo: no
[11:13] <Flannel> bonzai10: one of the guides allows you to install from within windows
[11:14] <bonzai10> hm... does it include Vista ?
[11:14] <Flannel> bonzai10: you could tell us ;)
[11:15] <babo> I'm trying to compile a mod_log_sql package for apache. The configure script keeps telling me that it can't find the MYSQL development libs ... and that libmysqlclient is needed for mysql support. But my mysql works fine ...
[11:15] <bonzai10> ok ill try it
[11:15] <babo> Does libmysqlclient need X ?
[11:15] <Flannel> babo: do you have the libapache-mod-mysql or whatever that package is for your versions?
[11:16] <Flannel> babo: and, for compiling, you'll probably need the mysql-dev stuff
[11:16] <notwist> Flannel: works like clockwork, thanks dude
[11:18] <HumanPrototype> hi - im having problems with my wireless card (A Dlink DWL-G520+)
[11:18] <wrabbit^> Can somebody please tell me how to add a taskbar so that when I close an app like GAIM, it'll minimize(to the taskbar)?
[11:18] <webben> is there anything more comprehensible than xmodmap to allot curly quotes to certain keys?
[11:19] <HumanPrototype> wrabbit^, in gaim if you go to the plugins option there is a taskbar icon plugin
[11:19] <babo> Flannel: I've got mysql-php5 in there ...
[11:19] <babo> The only mysql devs I can find are
[11:19] <babo> libghc6-hsql-mysql-dev - Multi-Database Interface System for Haskell
[11:19] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: right click panel, add "window list"
[11:19] <wrabbit^> HumanPrototype: Thanks.  How about Xchat?  Gnome doesn't seem to have one
[11:20] <notwist> Flannel: Is there any resource around for how to setup a network bridge between two network cards?
[11:20] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^:  sudo aptitude install xchat
[11:20] <wrabbit^> thoreauputic: you're misunderstanding my question.
[11:20] <HumanPrototype> my wireless card cant pick up any wireless networks in the gnome network manager thing
[11:21] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: ah you mean a taskbar icon ?
[11:21] <wrabbit^> thoreauputic: yep
[11:21] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: sorry
[11:22] <wrabbit^> No need to apologise.  Does anybody know how to add one?  The add to panel function doesn't seem to have a listing
[11:22] <guijo> hi.. how do i get ubuntu to recognize my graphics card?
[11:23] <wrabbit^> guijo: Have you tried installing drivers for said gfx?
[11:23] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: you can make anything appear as a taskbar icon with a program called "alltray"
[11:23] <guijo> but its for windows..
[11:24] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: it isn't in the repos unfortunately
[11:24] <HumanPrototype> and iwconfig wlan0 shows this: http://pastebin.co.uk/4137
[11:24] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: I jave compiled it here
[11:24] <thoreauputic> *have
[11:24] <HumanPrototype> guijo, what gfx card do you have?
[11:24] <wrabbit^> guijo: nvidia?
[11:24] <Buga|> i just downloaded the ubuntu desktop cd and tryed to boot it from cd but it stops booting while "adding a user". than i get uncompressing Linux .. OK, booting the kernel. and a prompt    any idea whats wrong here?
[11:25] <guijo> yeah
[11:25] <wrabbit^> guijo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[11:25] <wrabbit^> thoreauputic: that's a shame.  I find it odd that gnome doesn't have a taskbar.
[11:25] <guijo> thanks
[11:26] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: it does - it's called "notification area"
[11:26] <babo> what are the mysql development files ?
[11:26] <mnepton> wrabbit^: looking for an IRC client?
[11:27] <wrabbit^> mnepton: nope
[11:27] <mnepton> k
[11:27] <mnepton> saw something about xchat
[11:27] <Lattyware> Anyone know how to change audo/subtitle tracks in mPlayer?
[11:27] <wrabbit^> I'm just trying to work out how to get a taskbar in my panel.  I'll try notification area
[11:28] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: that's what gnome calls it
[11:28] <webben> wrabbit^, what sort of taskbar -- do you mean one which shows the current applications?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: but not all apps use it
[11:28] <rasket> hi
[11:28] <XiXaQ> wrabbit^, GNOME comes with a "taskbar" It's called a panel with Windowlist
[11:28] <wrabbit^> webben: yep
[11:28] <mnepton> wrabbit^: add the System Monitor applet to the GNOME panel
[11:28] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: I think he means the notification area, not the window list
[11:28] <XiXaQ> wrabbit^, just rightclick a panel and add Window-list, then you have a taskbar.
[11:28] <wrabbit^> XiXaQ: The difference is that it doesn't show running apps when I try to minimise then to the "tray"
[11:28] <mnepton> wrabbit^: you get real-time information, and if you click it, there's the taskbar.
[11:29] <Lattyware> Hmmm
[11:29] <rasket> Flannel: sry, but i ran into a problem, i cant write on the mounted disk, but can format it
[11:29] <XiXaQ> wrabbit^, which programs?
[11:29] <wrabbit^> like, Azureus and xchat and gaim.  These should minimize to as a tray icon when I click the x
[11:29] <Lattyware> Some of my panels auto-hide instantly and fully, (how I want), but one of them autohides slowly, and still shows about 3 pixels when it hides.
[11:29] <webben> wrabbit^, I don't quite understand. By default Gnome on Ubuntu shows most running applications in the panel at the bottom of the screen.
[11:29] <Lattyware> Anyone know why?
[11:29] <wrabbit^> sorry, I'm used to KDE.  Gnome is a little different
[11:29] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: right - you need a notification area
[11:29] <XiXaQ> wrabbit^, Azureus minimizes to notification area
[11:29] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: it's an applet
[11:30] <Lattyware> You can get a plugin for Xchat to minimize to Notification Area.
[11:30] <Lattyware> And you are thinking of the term 'System Tray'
[11:30] <babo> configure: error: libmysqlclient is needed for MySQL support
[11:30] <babo> ?
[11:31] <thoreauputic> babo:  apt-cache search libmysqlclient | grep dev
[11:31] <rasket> how can i write to a mounted disk after a live dvd boot ? only root is allowed ...
[11:31] <wrabbit^> Lattyware: Actually, yeah.  Couldn't remember the name
[11:31] <Cam-> will ubuntu complain if i upgrade my motherboard and cpu without re-installing?
[11:32] <XiXaQ> rasket, you must mount the disk with rw?
[11:32] <Cam-> its going from a Celeron 1.7 to a P4
[11:32] <Cam-> so same arch
[11:32] <babo> so the packages in the multiverse are signed then ?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> babo: yes
[11:33] <babo> thoreauputic, d'oh ... I had installed the wrong ones ... thanks dude
[11:34] <rasket> XiXaq: i can browse the disk within 'disks manager' where i mounted and formated it, but can not create the any file or folder out of this app
[11:34] <babo> thoreauputic: so if I make a package then, and I want it to be available to ubuntu users in general, where would i have to put it ?
[11:34] <Zeenux> gnight folks
[11:34] <Lattyware> Cam-: I can't see it being a problem, but don't quote me on that.
[11:34] <Zeenux> thanks for the help :P
[11:34] <Cam-> its a server ;)
[11:34] <thoreauputic> babo: you should talk to the MOTU ( Masters of the Universe" ) ')
[11:34] <Cam-> i guess its more of a trial and error thing
[11:35] <XiXaQ> rasket, it may be mounted as read-only. What kind of disk is it?
[11:35] <thoreauputic> babo: the packages have to conform to the standards of course
[11:35] <Lattyware> I can't see there being anything that is so dependant on which CPU you run...
[11:35] <wrabbit^> ok, the notification panel doesn't seem to do anything
[11:35] <thoreauputic> babo:  #ubuntu-motu
[11:35] <milan> hi
[11:35] <Lattyware> wrabbit^: Try opening gaim or somthing that will minimise to it.
[11:35] <Belisarivs_> Hi all.
[11:35] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: it should with gaim and rhythmbox etc
[11:35] <Lattyware> If you have nothing open, then nothing will be there.
[11:35] <milan> i tried to install gpar2 but the install is broken
[11:36] <milan> it's missing libpar2
[11:36] <milan> cant find that package
[11:36] <rasket> XiXaQ: if its mounted ro then i could not create anything but i can, but only within disks manager app; its an ordinary hard drive, formated in ext3
[11:36] <babo> thoreauputic: and they'll code audit every package to check that it's safe ?
[11:36] <evandev> hi everyone, is someone able to give me a hand getting my ubuntu rig up again - I installed a new SATAII controller and all drive assignments have now changed.  Edited Grub and got the machine booting again, but now X is down
[11:36] <Lattyware> oh, and www.blight.tk is the place to go for the XChat SysTray plugin.
[11:36] <rasket> XiXaQ: i assume i cant do anything if its mounted ro, or am i wrong ?
[11:36] <XiXaQ> rasket, does your user have access to the folder that is set as the mount point?
[11:37] <thoreauputic> babo: i don't know the procedure - either ask on the MOTU mailing list or visit #ubuntu-motu
[11:37] <wrabbit^> Lattyware: thoreauputic: Yep, gaim seems to work but Azureus doesn't.  Haven' tried Xchat
[11:37] <wrabbit^> Lattyware: thanks
[11:37] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: is it tha latest azureus?
[11:37] <Lattyware> NP.
[11:37] <YogSothoth> hoelk: the streets yes man! thanks :)
[11:37] <wrabbit^> thoreauputic: probably
[11:37] <Lattyware> I hate Azureus, slows my PC to a crawl.
[11:37] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: 2.4* had bugs - 2.5 works
[11:37] <Lattyware> I run uTorrent under wine.
[11:37] <thoreauputic> Lattyware: misconfigured
[11:37] <Lattyware> It's system tray thing fails :/
[11:38] <XiXaQ> wrabbit^, you have to tell Azureus to behave like that.
[11:38] <Lattyware> thoreauputic: How so?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> Lattyware: read about it on the azureus wiki ( excellent wiki)
[11:38] <Lattyware> thoreauputic: Oh, I've done all that, still slow as hell.
[11:38] <wrabbit^> XiXaQ: I did.  thoreauputic, is there a way to upgrade it via apt?  The 2.4 version (which I seem to have) was the only one I could find using apt-cache search
[11:38] <rasket> XiXaQ: got it, its possible to browse a mount out of 'disks manger', this browsing window is under root, where i could give my default desktop user rw rights
[11:39] <Belisarivs_> I just want to ask somethink. I installed Kubuntu to my uncle. He uses wificard based on prism. I managed to make it work, but he has to reconnect to the internet on every login. What should I set to make it connect automatically?
[11:39] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: yes, you would have to use the tarball from azureus
[11:39] <rasket> XiXaQ: yep, now it works, thanks ;-)
[11:39] <XiXaQ> you're welcome. :)
[11:39] <thoreauputic> wrabbit^: it isn't hard - you just put it somwhere and link to it basically
[11:39] <Leumas> where does ubuntu store its packages?
[11:39] <Leumas> the ones it downlods
[11:40] <Leumas> i would like to not have to download them again and again and again
[11:40] <thoreauputic> Leumas:  /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:40] <Leumas> ty :)
[11:41] <thoreauputic> Lattyware: you are using sunn java, right?
[11:41] <thoreauputic> *Sun java
[11:41] <Lattyware> thoreauputic: Yeah
[11:41] <guijo> whats the link you sent me earlier about installin nvidia in ubuntu? had to restart my puter :(
[11:42] <thoreauputic> Lattyware: then i don't know - how much RAM, what CPU ?
 guijo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[11:42] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[11:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:42] <guijo> thanks
[11:42] <silent_scream> what's the difference between xgl and aiglx ??
[11:42] <Lattyware> thoreauputic: I have 512MB of ram, 1.6GHz Semperon.
[11:42] <Lattyware> (So single core, 32bit)
[11:43] <thoreauputic> Lattyware: should be fine - did you run  sudo update-alternatives --config java  ?
[11:43] <evandev> Is someone able to tell me which config file X stores its library reference in - I've checked xorg.conf and there are no references in it?
[11:43] <Lattyware> thoreauputic: Can't rememer, it was a while ago.
[11:43] <thoreauputic> Lattyware: that's crucial
[11:44] <thoreauputic> Lattyware: otherwise the system will use gcj ( Free java)
[11:44] <mankey> yeah
[11:44] <Raskall> hmm.. I have a fresh dapper 6.06.1 install and want to install kubuntu-desktop. But it gives a dependency error: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: language-selector-qt but it is not going to be installed
[11:44] <Raskall> any idea how to resolve this?
[11:44] <spocky> hi
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Raskall: edgy or dapper?
[11:45] <Raskall> thoreauputic: dapper
[11:45] <Raskall> thoreauputic: as I stated in my question. :)
[11:45] <wrabbit^> weird
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Raskall: are you sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is right ?
[11:45] <spocky> in xfce or KDE there is an option to change the desktop wallpaper randomly. Is there a way to let gnome do the same?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Raskall: ah sorry :)
[11:45] <Raskall> thoreauputic: it works ok in all my 6.06 machines
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Raskall: do you have updates and security enabled?
[11:46] <Raskall> language-selector-qt: Depends: language-selector-common (= 0.1.20) but 0.1.20.1 is to be installed
[11:47] <evandev> anyonee?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> Raskall: I suspect you don't jhave dapper-updates enabled - it's in updates according to "apt-cache policy"
[11:48] <Raskall> thoreauputic: that might be right. I only have archive and security.
[11:48] <thoreauputic> Raskall: enable updates
[11:48] <thoreauputic> Raskall: I think that's your problem right there
[11:48] <babo> where can I find gmake ? ... it's not in build-essentials ...
[11:48] <thoreauputic> babo: make is gmake
[11:48] <Raskall> agh.. pastebin.com hangs
[11:49] <thoreauputic> babo: gmake is a unixism for the GNU make
[11:49] <evandev> is there something I'm not doing to get some assitance?
[11:49] <thoreauputic> babo: if your config script calls gmake it's broken
[11:50] <thoreauputic> evandev: what was your question?
[11:50] <thoreauputic> evandev: ah something about X libraries - it wasn't clear what you meant at all
[11:51] <babo> thoreauputic: the INSTALL page says to call gmake and gmake install ...
[11:51] <thoreauputic> babo: ummm - try  make && make install
[11:51] <neutrinomass_> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:51] <neutrinomass_> oops, sorry
[11:51] <thoreauputic> babo: this sounds like a non-linux source
[11:51] <evandev>  thoreauputic:  I installed an additional SATAII controller in my box and all my drive assignments changed.  Dapper wouldn't boot.  I loaded livecd, edited grub's menu options to reference correct boot drive and it booted, but now X is dead
[11:52] <thoreauputic> evandev:  run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:52] <Leumas> 1. What is the Linux equivalent of a Blue Screen of Death; 2. Where can I get a picture of it?
[11:52] <thoreauputic> Leumas: it doesn't really exist
[11:53] <Leumas> so what does linux do when it hits a fatal error?
[11:53] <thoreauputic> Leumas: closest thing would be a kernel panic I guess
[11:53] <Raskall> thoreauputic: you were spot on. Kubuntu is now pouring in.
[11:53] <Leumas> kernel panic!
[11:53] <neutrinomass_> 1. We've got many equivalents :-)
[11:53] <thoreauputic> Raskall: :)
[11:53] <Leumas> thankyou
[11:53] <thoreauputic> Leumas:  gogle is your friend ;-)
[11:53] <thoreauputic> *google
[11:54] <evandev> thoreauputic:  to do that I need to leave the livecd.  can you tell me what config file I should be looking to edit as an alternative?
[11:54] <Raskall> It's a bit sad I'm not working with liux anymore. :(
[11:54] <thoreauputic> evandev:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:55] <thoreauputic> evandev: you can chroot from the live CD to run the command I gave
[11:55] <evandev> ok
[11:55] <evandev> thx
[11:55] <thoreauputic> evandev: but that's a bit involved to explain on IRC
[11:56] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. anyone know what might be making my box not reboot? It will shutdown fine, but when I select (or type reboot/shutdown -r now) it goes great until "Will not reboot" .. then sits there ..
[11:56] <neo_> hello
[11:57] <thoreauputic> NineTeen67Comet: sounds like a bug
[11:57] <drumline_> sounds like a feature if it actually says, "Will not reboot."
[11:57] <neo_> im using ubuntu 5.10 and trying to compile from source but i get "kde-config could not be found"
[11:57] <neo_> i know ubuntu is gnome but what does this mean?
[11:57] <totall_6_7> the linux bsd/kernel panic is the same thing just not with the 'purdy' blue colour for the screen :P
[11:58] <Jaak> Does mythtv-frontend connect to a local mysql server (his own) or to the backend's sql server?
[11:59] <guijo> hi.. i have a problem.. i was following the installation of the nvidia driaver however i could not do the video acceleration
[11:59] <thoreauputic> neo_: what are you compling and why?
[11:59] <NineTeen67Comet> neo looks like you are missing a kde library file .. I'm not an expert at *buntu, but that's what it's looking like ..
[11:59] <thoreauputic> *compiling
[11:59] <guijo> i dont know where to type the [xine -v xxmc filename.ts] 
[12:00] <neo_> thoreauputic: im compiling k3b-0.12.17 a burning software so i can burn a knoppix iso
[12:01] <lupine_85> evandev: chrooting is easy. do everything in a terminal with sudo:- mount /dev/<whatever> /mnt && mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys && chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[12:01] <thoreauputic> neo_: k3b is in the repos
[12:01] <lupine_85> then run the command; exit gets you out of the chroot back to your original root
[12:01] <thoreauputic> !k3b
[12:01] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[12:01] <lupine_85> !info k3b dapper
[12:01] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 3941 kB, installed size 8376 kB
[12:01] <davvs> how do i uncompress 7z-files?
[12:01] <thoreauputic> 1info k3b
[12:01] <lupine_85> 3 version changes... not a huge difference
[12:02] <neo_> awesoem thank you
[12:02] <thoreauputic> neo_: you don't need k3b - just right click the ISO in nautilus and burn it
[12:03] <Morrowyn> thats what i always do :)
[12:03] <thoreauputic> works fine for ISO s
[12:03] <guijo> how bout my question? :)
[12:04] <lupine_85> guijo: type it whereever you want? a terminal or the run command dialogue or... anywhere, really
[12:04] <blazemonger> ls
[12:04] <blazemonger> oopz
[12:04] <guijo> but its errros when i type it on terminal
[12:05] <Morrowyn> maybe sudo your command
[12:05] <guijo> ill try
[12:05] <Morrowyn> or just check, the permission first and such
[12:05] <Morrowyn> and maybe specify the error your get :)
[12:05] <guijo> nogs.. will do
[12:06] <gerhard> good morning
[12:06] <gerhard> can linux handle img cue and sub files?
[12:06] <thoreauputic> !bchunk
[12:06] <easytiger> yea
[12:06] <gerhard> i mean can i mount them or must i change them to iso
[12:06] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[12:06] <Morrowyn> yup, you need bchunk for it
[12:06] <gerhard> ok
[12:06] <gerhard> thanks, i will search for bchunk
[12:07] <blazemonger> !cheesetracker
[12:07] <ubotu> cheesetracker: sound module tracking program (IT - Impulse Tracker clone). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-3 (dapper), package size 851 kB, installed size 1756 kB
[12:07] <thoreauputic> !info bchunk
[12:07] <cristina> hello
[12:07] <cristina> hello?
[12:07] <thoreauputic> hello :)
[12:07] <gerhard> hi christina
[12:07] <Morrowyn> hi?
[12:07] <neo_> sorry im not quite sure what nautilus is, but i did see you can right click and write files to disc but i wasn't sure if that was the same as copying files to disk in windows which would leave me with a cd with the iso file on it (wasting the cd)
[12:07] <cristina> you are stand spanish?
[12:07] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[12:08] <thoreauputic> !es
[12:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:08] <drbreen> anyone here knows what software i should use when i want to record and mix audio stuff ? i used audacity a while ago.
[12:08] <Morrowyn> nautolus is the file manager in gnome
[12:08] <drbreen> nautil *U* s
[12:08] <blazemonger> !rosegarden
[12:08] <ubotu> rosegarden: An integrated MIDI sequencer and musical notation editor. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.1pl4-2 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 36 kB
[12:08] <cristina> hola!
[12:08] <thoreauputic> drbreen: audacity is the one as far as I know
[12:08] <cristina> hay alguien espaol?
[12:08] <Morrowyn> ardour?
[12:08] <georgy> !es
[12:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:08] <thoreauputic> cristina: /join #edubuntu-es
[12:09] <totall_6_7> thoreauputic: thanks for the lead on k3b, it looks a whole lot better than xburn
[12:09] <guijo> the error message i get is [bash: xine: command not found]  even if i sudo it.
[12:09] <drbreen> so rosegarden is a MIDI sequencer, notation editor AND can mix channels ?
[12:09] <thoreauputic> cristina: or #ubuntu-es etc
[12:09] <cristina> wola
[12:09] <cristina> hello?
[12:09] <blazemonger> yup drbreen
[12:09] <Morrowyn> http://www.ardour.org/
[12:09] <thoreauputic> guijo: xine is a video player - install xine-ui to get it
[12:09] <wwwiz> how to change Main Menu icon?
[12:10] <blazemonger> drbreen: :and it works pretty good once you configure your kernel for lower latency
[12:10] <thoreauputic> cristina: go to #ubuntu-es please
[12:10] <jengc0il> !need help
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about need help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <drbreen> blazemonger: how do i do that ?
[12:10] <guijo> i install from synaptic package manager?
[12:10] <thoreauputic> guijo: yep
[12:10] <blazemonger> drbreen: gimme a few to grab a linky
[12:10] <blazemonger> i'm working on it myuself
[12:11] <blazemonger> once i get rosegarden configured goood and jack daemon i'm gonna be able to trash windows :)
[12:11] <ingegnerlillo> hi guys
[12:11] <drbreen> i dont have good machines - i'm litterally (sic!) building machines out of tech-waste
[12:11] <wwwiz> how to change Main Menu icon?
[12:11] <NineTeen67Comet> has anyone had issues with Istanbul when used while xgl is running? Mine seems to just lock up as soon as I click it to record...
[12:12] <ingegnerlillo> I have a problem trying to change icons and gtk.
[12:12] <drbreen> so do i need 2G ram and amd athlon 3000+ to actually get this low latency ?
[12:12] <ingegnerlillo> with an xgl session running on :1
[12:12] <ingegnerlillo> some ideas?
[12:12] <blazemonger> drbreen: :i'm only on a pentium 4
[12:12] <blazemonger> nope you dont
[12:12] <blazemonger> just a good audio card
[12:12] <silent_scream> how can i convert a .wma file into an .mp3 ?
[12:12] <blazemonger> hell i only use a es1371 card
[12:12] <drbreen> like an audigy zx ?
[12:12] <nolimitsoya> silent_scream, you cant
[12:12] <blazemonger> that's a good card actualy
[12:12] <drbreen> or how-its-called
[12:12] <karel> I think I nailed the problem with my 3D accel.  The /usr/lib/libGL* symlinks seem wrong
[12:12] <silent_scream> O_o thnx
[12:12] <nolimitsoya> unless you dont mind cascade coding :)
[12:12] <blazemonger> you have your midi stuff
[12:13] <nolimitsoya> which is awfull, realy....
[12:13] <blazemonger> drbreen: : ever used Cubase?
[12:13] <karel> aren't they supposed to point to /usr/X11R6/lib/something?
[12:13] <blazemonger> Rosegarden is similar to cubase
[12:13] <Nookie> !w32codecs
[12:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:13] <drbreen> blazemonger: i tried, but i was 15 yrs old
[12:13] <blazemonger> how old are you now?
[12:13] <Morrowyn> atari st and cubase for midi stuff
[12:13] <georgy> silent_scream : use soundconverter
[12:13] <blazemonger> was it on the atari st?
[12:13] <drbreen> 19
[12:13] <blazemonger> oh yeah
[12:13] <wwwiz> how to change Main Menu icon???
[12:13] <blazemonger> mbamford: :rosegarden isn't that bad actually
[12:13] <drbreen> and i didn't get past "OMGTHATSSOOOCOOL"
[12:13] <blazemonger> audio stuff in linux is fun
[12:14] <clem_> oh guys.. you just made me nostlagic... I remember my Atari ST :)
[12:14] <blazemonger> and jack is awesome
[12:14] <drbreen> blazemonger: u know some websites 'bout linux audio stuff ?
[12:14] <blazemonger> clem_: :man the Atari ST is a legend
[12:14] <thoreauputic> wwwiz: stop repeating please
[12:14] <blazemonger> drbreen: google :)
[12:14] <Morrowyn> i still have my st 1024 :)
[12:14] <blazemonger> linux midi :)
[12:14] <bubba> clem_: install steem engine :)
[12:14] <drbreen> hrhr
[12:14] <Morrowyn> drbeen you might wanna look into http://www.ardour.org/
[12:15] <clem_> yep, I'm definitely going to emulate it.
[12:15] <thoreauputic> !patience
[12:15] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:15] <drbreen> when i was in sixth grade and my co-students asked my where i've read something strange i said "in lexica", late it was "google.com"
[12:15] <karel> where should /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 link to if 3D acceleration works?
[12:16] <gerhard> is there a possibility to get some image files from ubuntu to windows in vm ware player?
[12:16] <Morrowyn> libGL.so iirc ?
[12:16] <cafuego> Nou karel, de mijne linkt naar libGL.so.1.0.8762 (da's een nvidia versie)
[12:16] <blazemonger> what part of the planet you folks live in
[12:16] <clem_> gerhard: yes, through the network.
[12:16] <drbreen> gerhard: vm provides a virtuel network
[12:16] <clem_> gerhard: or a USB key
[12:16] <Morrowyn> holland :) here
[12:16] <karel> hm.  Mine point to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[12:17] <clem_> blazemonger: Ireland
[12:17] <gerhard> clem, drbreen: i have nat activated i think
[12:17] <drbreen> blazemonger: is there a repository for "low latency kernels" or stuff ?
[12:17] <gerhard> clem, drbreen: do you think the vm will have an own IP?
[12:17] <cafuego> karel: That would be OK for linux dri
[12:17] <Morrowyn> im off guys, duty calls
[12:17] <clem_> gerhard: it does alright
[12:17] <cafuego> karel: Except if you're using the nvidia or fglrx drivers.
[12:18] <gerhard> clem, good i will try that, thx
[12:18] <drbreen> gerhard: don't know - i did not use vmware recently
[12:18] <karel> I'm trying to use the open source radoen drivers
[12:18] <clem_> gerhard: your vm and windows box can communicate on the same network (virtual network that is)
[12:18] <cafuego> Is the card listed as supported?
[12:18] <karel> They have worked for me in the past (on gentoo).  It's a radeon 8500 card
[12:18] <cafuego> That should be fine yeh
[12:18] <gerhard> clem, drbreen what would be a good ftp server?
[12:18] <guijo> okie.. just installed xine.. said specified mrl could not be found.. filename.ts
[12:19] <clem_> gerhard: well, Ubuntu can scan windows shared folders so you don't really need an FTP server.
[12:19] <drbreen> gerhard: you mean hardware or an ftp server program ?
[12:19] <blazemonger> drbreen: :not that i know of
[12:19] <gerhard> clem, thats a good idea
[12:19] <karel> the xorg.conf and xorg.0.log seems fine.  I think the /usr/lib/libGL symlinks should point to somewhere else
[12:19] <blazemonger> clem_: :ireland!!! u.s. here
[12:19] <ingegnerlillo> I have a problem trying to change icons and gtk. with xgl as a session running on :1 icons theme doesn't change, but it change if I use a normal gnome session.
[12:19] <gerhard> drbreen, i meant, a software ftp, but the shared folder idea is better
[12:20] <davvs> how do i uncompress 7z-files?
[12:20] <ingegnerlillo> someone culd hel me? I've gooogled for 2 weeks
[12:20] <xst> I have problems installing amarok 1.4.3. apt-get gives me an "amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable". What to do?
[12:21] <clem_> xst: on kubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:22] <xst> clem_: on dapper
[12:22] <xst> I follow this guide: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php
[12:22] <fourat> anyone is using Mozilla thunderbird, i've got a really headache with it ! it wont download mails automaticly, i should click every time on 'get new mails' to check and download new mails :(
[12:23] <clem_> xst: you probably miss some repositories...
[12:23] <clem_> xst: or else, the package is broken... oh oh..
[12:23] <mike1o> is there an application for financial/client management for an ubuntu server??
[12:23] <guijo> is the help file on how to instll nvidia drivers correct? cant seem to do the last steps.. :(
[12:23] <fyrestrtr> mike1o: are you looking for CRM or financials?
[12:24] <fyrestrtr> guijo: what is the problem?
[12:24] <xst> hmm
[12:24] <wrabbit^> guijo: if you're following the link I gave you, be sure to restart x
[12:24] <clem_> xst: do you have main restricted universe and multiverse activated in your sources.list ?
[12:24] <guijo> i did..
[12:24] <mike1o> fyrestrtr, CRM?
[12:25] <mike1o> fyrestrtr, you mean like a zope running server??
[12:25] <guijo> cant use XvMC to accelerate vidoe playback
[12:25] <clem_> xst: also add the "KDE latest" repo from kubuntu.org, just in case.
[12:26] <wrabbit^> guijo: I stopped at the restart.  I didn't bother with the "Enable XvMC by creating the nVidia XvMC configuration file" step
[12:26] <mike1o> fyrestrtr, Customer Relationship Management (CRM) yeah ok..
[12:26] <serenity> There is a Releaseparty for edgy eft in Hannover, Germany (28.10.06), have a look: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/ikhaya/307/
[12:27] <mike1o> fyrestrtr, what is a good package or environment...
[12:28] <guijo> wrabbit: cedega failes on 3D acceleration.. i cant play my game properly :(
[12:28] <fyrestrtr> mike1o: for what?
[12:28] <fyrestrtr> mike1o: tell me what you want the software to do first :)
[12:28] <mike1o> fyrestrtr, managing costumers & financial deals
[12:29] <mike1o> fyrestrtr, over a server possibly via web...
[12:29] <guijo> so anyone know how to make 3D acceleration work?
[12:29] <georgy> mikelo : have look to sql-ledger ?
[12:30] <palski> fourat: account settings->Server settings->Check for new messages....
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> mike1o: try www.vtiger.com
[12:30] <fourat> palski, ok
[12:30] <fourat> thx
[12:31] <Devious> hi
[12:31] <frogzoo> guijo: wine's worth a try
[12:31] <guijo> so use wine with the vidoe driver?
[12:31] <clem_> is 6.10 going to integrate AIGLX and Compiz like Mandriva did, and Fedora is about to do ?
[12:32] <pontusen> I've followed the ati guide, but when i reboot X won't start. I have a radeon 7000. Anyone have any tips for me?
[12:32] <frogzoo> guijo: you need 3d working already, of course
[12:32] <guijo> ill try
[12:32] <Devious> erm i tried the live cd earlier but it said x server failed, i think the problem is because i have an inbuilt intel graphics chip on the mobo, BUT i have a pci geforcefx installed (works fine) but apparently ubuntu is getting them mixed up and fails
[12:33] <mike1o> fyrestrtr, ok tnx
[12:33] <frogzoo> Devious: disable intel from bios
[12:33] <georgy> Devious : try to disable intel in the bios
[12:33] <Devious> you would think i could, but there is no option todo that
[12:33] <Devious> just auto or onboard
[12:33] <Devious> its on auto
[12:33] <pontusen> does anyone know if radeon 7000 is supported by fglrx?
[12:34] <Daverocks> !anyone
[12:34] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:34] <Daverocks> oh, it was a question, sorry :P
[12:34] <fyrestrtr> clem_: yes.
[12:34] <clem_> fyrestrtr: cool. Thanks.
[12:34] <pontusen> is radeon 7000 supported by fglrx?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> !fglrx
[12:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:35] <thoreauputic> pontusen: I think that page tells you what is supported
[12:36] <pontusen> yeah, i read it, X won't start when i try that...
[12:36] <Jaak> Does mythtv-frontend connect to a local mysql server (his own) or to the backend's sql server?
[12:36] <thoreauputic> pontusen: if not look for the wiki hardware pages
[12:36] <evandev> bbiab, going to try to resurrect x
[12:36] <pontusen> okey, will do
[12:36] <pontusen> "The model number for your Radeon card is 8500" since 8500>7000 i can't use fglrx. Any other drivers i can use then?
[12:37] <mike1o> fyrestrtr,  any other suggestions?
[12:37] <guijo> frogzoo: when i try to instll the driver from wine it doesn't detect my vidoe card :(
[12:37] <captine> hi all.  anyone able to help me getting a broadcom wiifi chip working (on compaq presario)
[12:37] <captine> just installed 6.06 64bit
[12:37] <fyrestrtr> pontusen: no.
[12:38] <pontusen> so no hardware accel for me then :/
[12:38] <fyrestrtr> pontusen: you can use the 'ati' driver.
[12:38] <Devious> erm ok apparently i cannot disable the onboard video via the bios, so i think i cannot use ubuntu anytime soon .. doh
[12:38] <pontusen> fyrestrtr, will that give any good performance at all?
[12:39] <fyrestrtr> pontusen: it should give you decent performance. Don't expect stellar performance.
[12:41] <Jaak> why does tvtime work great! and mythtv-setup can't scan for channels?
[12:41] <pontusen> i've run glxgears for ~1 min and still no result in terminal... can't be too good right? I am using ati
[12:42] <plasmonet> need help please on ubuntu sever
[12:42] <blazemonger> !muse
[12:42] <ubotu> muse: Qt-based midi/audio sequencer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1+0.7.2pre5-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 5083 kB, installed size 18060 kB
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> plasmonet: ask a question
[12:43] <georgy> plasmonet : what's up
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> !wifi > captine
[12:43] <ch4n5> I tried to run a Java class in Ubuntu it gave the following errorException in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[12:43] <ch4n5>    at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(libgcj.so.7)
[12:43] <ch4n5>    at java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(libgcj.so.7)
[12:43] <ch4n5>    at java.awt.Window.<init>(libgcj.so.7)
[12:43] <ch4n5>    at java.awt.Frame.<init>(libgcj.so.7)
[12:43] <ch4n5>    at javax.swing.JFrame.<init>(libgcj.so.7)
[12:43] <ch4n5>    at BroadbandUI.LoginWindow.<init>(LoginWindow.java:17)
[12:43] <ch4n5>    at BroadbandUI.LaunchDialer.main(LaunchDialer.java:86)
[12:43] <ch4n5> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[12:43] <ch4n5>    at java.lang.Class.forName(libgcj.so.7)
[12:43] <ch4n5>    at java.lang.Class.forName(libgcj.so.7)
[12:43] <ch4n5>    at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(libgcj.so.7)
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[12:43] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:43] <ch4n5>    ...6 more
[12:43] <thoreauputic> ch4n5: DO NOT paste in here
[12:43] <Daverocks> gah, don't paste large amounts of text in this channel
[12:43] <captine> fyrestrtr: thanks.  found something on ubuntuforums
[12:43] <plasmonet> i would like to install ubuntu server as a mythtv backend
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin > ch4n5
[12:43] <captine> gonna try
[12:44] <KenSentMe> Which font does my Ubuntu terminal use?
[12:44] <XiXaQ> I need to run a command at boot before any users log in. How do I do that?
[12:44] <erUSUL> KenSentMe: by default BitStream Vera Mono (or DejaVu Mono)
[12:44] <Devious> ahhar
[12:44] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: default font for gnome-terminal is Monospace 9
[12:44] <Devious> i can update my bios and apparently i can then disable the onboard video
[12:45] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: try putting it in /etc/rc.local
[12:45] <Devious> however the last time i tried a bios update (few years back) the power went out and put me off _
[12:45] <ph8> gah! got disconnected, did anyone see my question about how you i'm meant to setup software raid from the installer? do i choose 'use lvm'?
[12:45] <Jaak> please someone tell me where to get a propper install guide on how the hell i scan for channels in mythtv-setup
[12:46] <plasmonet> i would like to install mythtv backend on ubuntu server and configure can i do and how
[12:46] <KenSentMe> erUSUL, fyrestrtr: both arent in usr/share/fonts is it?
[12:46] <XiXaQ> thoreauputic, This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel. What does that mean?
[12:46] <davvs> what package should I install if i want to compile stuff?
[12:47] <Daverocks> davvs: gcc, g++
[12:47] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: in Ubuntu it means basically it runs in runlevel 2, which is the default
[12:47] <davvs> Daverocks, isn't there a package to get that installs everything that's needed?
[12:47] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: Ubuntu doesn't use the 3,4,5 runlevels by deafault
[12:47] <thoreauputic> *default
[12:47] <georgy> plasmonet : have look to http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[12:47] <XiXaQ> thoreauputic, I don't know what a runlevel is...
[12:48] <thirdalbum> davvs: build-essential is the package you're looking for
[12:48] <davvs> aah, ok thanks thirdalbum
[12:48] <Daverocks> thirdalbum: thanks... i knew there was one but wasn't sure what it was called :P
[12:48] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: don't worry about it then :) Just put your command or script in the file I mentioned - should work
[12:48] <fyrestrtr> XiXaQ: means anything other than the rescue runlevel.
[12:48] <XiXaQ> oh, ok. Thanks. :)
[12:48] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: or you can source another file by preceding it with a dot
[12:49] <plasmonet> georgy : thanks but do i need a desktop like gnome,kde,xfce,fluxbox to run the configure program
[12:49] <XiXaQ> thoreauputic, what does that mean? Source another file?
[12:49] <fyrestrtr> plasmonet: no, you don't need it, but it helps a lot :) You can of course write the config files by hand.
[12:49] <georgy> plasmonet : don't know
[12:50] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: it just means call it - for instance I use /etc/iptables.up to start iptables there, by just typing  . /etc/iptables.up
[12:50] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: that file is one I made myself - don't look for it :) You won't have it :)
[12:50] <plasmonet> fyrestrtr: thanks
[12:50] <gerhard> can i share specific folders to make them accessible for a windows pc in the lan?
[12:51] <Daverocks> gerhard: yes, use samba
[12:51] <thoreauputic> gerhard: with samba, yes
[12:51] <gerhard> is that a package?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> !samba
[12:51] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:51] <gerhard> ah thx
[12:51] <stephan21_> can u get enlightment en dappeR?
[12:51] <Coffeegrinds> botsnack
[12:51] <fyrestrtr> thoreauputic: why don't you use shorewall? Simpler than writing iptable rules by hand.
[12:51] <thoreauputic> stephan21_: yes
[12:51] <stephan21_> e17 sorry
[12:51] <Daverocks> stephan21_: should be able to
[12:51] <blazemonger> !jack
[12:51] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1-14 (dapper), package size 121 kB, installed size 572 kB
[12:51] <blazemonger> !jackd
[12:51] <ubotu> jackd: JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.100.0-4 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 352 kB
[12:51] <XiXaQ> thoreauputic, ah.. I also need the program to run in the background.
[12:52] <plasmonet> !myth-backend
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myth-backend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <fyrestrtr> XiXaQ: what program?
[12:52] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: because a) I prefer it b) I only need about 5 lines for iptables here
[12:52] <XiXaQ> fyrestrtr, x11vnc
[12:52] <plasmonet> !mythtv
[12:52] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[12:52] <fyrestrtr> thoreauputic: ah, okay. You must not have a huge iptables list like I do.
[12:52] <plasmonet> thats a cool feature
[12:52] <stephan21_> enlightenment!
[12:52] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: No, i have very simple rules :)
[12:53] <Daverocks> stephan21_: yes... enlightenment should work on dapper
[12:53] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: I use mac addresses and a few IPs to allow access, and deny everything else, basically
[12:53] <stephan21_> Daverocks, where can i get it at
[12:53] <Daverocks> stephan21_: i don't use ubuntu a lot, so i don't know if it's in the official repos, but check there
[12:54] <captine> hi all. when typing iwconfig, i see a whole lot of info under eth1, relating to my broadcom wifi.  does this mean ubuntu has installed drivers for it.  though broadcom wasn't supported
[12:54] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: I find the iptables front ends write rules that are way toocomplex - once you know your policy and "get" iptables, everything falls into place
[12:54] <Daverocks> captine: did you attempt to install any drivers?
[12:54] <[BTF] Chm0d> has anyone here successfully have a wintv pvr-150 working in ubuntu?
[12:55] <captine> Daverocks: nope.
[12:55] <Daverocks> !anyone
[12:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:55] <Daverocks> captine: does something like "ifup eth1" throw any errors?
[12:55] <fyrestrtr> thoreauputic: yes, but managing a complex environment takes its toll if you write rules by hand.
[12:56] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: sure - I'm just talking about a tiny home network here :)
[12:56] <teledyn_k> how is ubuntu different than debian/unstable?
[12:56] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: it's more predictable :)
[12:57] <fyrestrtr> teledyn_k: less on the unstable side, more on the usable side.
[12:57] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: very similar, but not a moving target like Sid
[12:57] <teledyn_k> but now on the old/crusty side?
[12:57] <thoreauputic> huh?
[12:57] <teledyn_k> s/but now/but not/
[12:57] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: it gets updated every six months
[12:57] <teledyn_k> i mean, its not really ancient, its fairly recent versions of things?
[12:58] <captine> Daverocks: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory is the output, then it seems to try and connect to something (havent put any settings in)
[12:58] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: and if you wnt the latest, you can run the dev branch
[12:58] <captine> Daverocks: am very new to wifi with ubuntu.
[12:58] <fyrestrtr> teledyn_k: just try out the livecd and see if its current enough for you :)
[12:58] <teledyn_k> and is the package selection more limited?
[12:58] <Daverocks> captine: hmm
[12:58] <Daverocks> captine: broadcom, you said?
[12:58] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: not really
[12:58] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: Ubuntu has most of the Debian stuff
[12:59] <teledyn_k> i'm curious, what would you consider the most compelling reason to switch from sid to ubuntu be, beyond sid's instability?
[12:59] <captine> Daverocks: yes.  do i have to use ndiswrapper?  am on 64bit distro.  someone once told me ndiswrapper was junk
[12:59] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: it tends to work out of the box more often :)
[12:59] <fyrestrtr> teledyn_k: you need another reason, in addition to instability?
[01:00] <Daverocks> captine: ndiswrapper works, but it's a bit unwieldy... which broadcom card do you have?
[01:00] <teledyn_k> fyrestrtr: yes, because the instability issue normally isn't one of the more troubling things for me
[01:00] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: I used to use Debian - if you like Debian, use it - it's a fine distro
[01:00] <fyrestrtr> teledyn_k: if you are looking for a reason, then don't switch :)
[01:00] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: Ubuntu is almost the same really
[01:00] <teledyn_k> big issues for me are things like hardware support - e.g. wifi support
[01:00] <captine> Daverocks: ubuntu picks it up as BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g
[01:01] <XiXaQ> thoreauputic, you said something about using a dot in front of the program. Is that for running it in the background?
[01:01] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: no
[01:01] <rasket> hi, i downloaded a new ubuntu iso from my live dvd but now i cant burn it, please help :-)
[01:01] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: what are you actually trying to do?
[01:01] <georgy> Captine : works with ndiswrapper
[01:01] <notwist> excuse me.. where do i change my default sound card?
[01:01] <neo_> i finally got something installed, now i just need to run the executable which is x.bin.x86 what command will run it?
[01:01] <teledyn_k> also support for features on my thinkpad - things like swsusp2, which currently i have to patch into my own custom kernels, in order to suspend
[01:01] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[01:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:01] <fyrestrtr> rasket: right click on it and you should see the option 'write to disc' click on it.
[01:01] <notwist> I change it and then press "close" in some window called "sound" but then when i go back it's changed back to some weird USB device again
[01:02] <notwist> anyone?
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> neo_: bash /path/to/x.bin.x86
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> neo_: assuming its executable
[01:02] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: check out the wiki pages for laptops
[01:02] <teledyn_k> it would be nice to find a distro which patches their kernels with stuff like wifi drivers, swsusp, etc. so i don't have to
[01:02] <captine> thoreauputic: thnx.  am looking there already.  just very confusing
[01:02] <rasket> fyrestrtr, yes and the burn app is starting but wants to have a blank dvd to burn on, but i cant get my live dvd out of the dvd-drive
[01:02] <XiXaQ> thoreauputic, I'm trying to start a program at boot. x11vnc. That stops and waits for a connection. If I include it directly in the /etc/rc.local file, the boot process will be paused, won't it?
[01:02] <Daverocks> captine: seems that most people got it working using ndiswrapper
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> teledyn_k: ubuntu is decent about that, but in the end, compiling a kernel isn't all *that* bad.
[01:02] <notwist> thoreauputic: hello again.. mind telling me where I can change the default soundcard? it seems to automatically change back to some strange USB device :S
[01:02] <suredo> the disc-check found my disc faulty, and wouldn't boot. i ran the command to check manually, and it specified 1 command i could run, but which could ruin my setup. it did that, and now grub has an error 17. is my install doomed?
[01:02] <Daverocks> captine: there's a howto specific to the broadcom 4318 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[01:02] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: I don't know, to be honest
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> rasket: ah....well, don't know what you can do about that lol
[01:03] <captine> Daverocks: thnx.  heading there now
[01:03] <rambo3> XiXaQ, most likley it will run in background
[01:03] <teledyn_k> fyrestrtr, it becomes a pain though when you've got 3 or 4 different sets of hardware that you continually need to build stuff for, plus sometimes the releases are buggy
[01:03] <thoreauputic> notwist: sorry, I'm no sound guru :)
[01:03] <rasket> fyrestrtr, ok, thanks :-)
[01:03] <XiXaQ> well then.. :) Guess I'll just try.
[01:03] <XiXaQ> wish me luck :)
[01:03] <teledyn_k> fyrestrtr: its really just cumbersome to keep up with.  for example recent releases of the madwifi driver for my internal wifi are broken with dhcp client
[01:03] <rasket> do someone know how to get a live dvd out of the drive ?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> notwist: if you can find crimsun, he would probably have an answer
[01:04] <notwist> thoreauputic: damn. it's so wierd cause when i go into "sound" i have nvidia (which is the working soundcard) but it's set to some USB crap. And when i change and press close, it still doesnt change. And there is no "OK" button
[01:04] <fyrestrtr> rasket: if you have enough ram, there is a boot option that will load the entire OS into RAM....that should free up your cdrom (I think)
[01:04] <teledyn_k> fyrestrtr: multiply that kind of headache by 3 or 4 and it does build up
[01:04] <XiXaQ> thoreauputic, that script is run as root?
[01:04] <fyrestrtr> teledyn_k: well that's really not a fault of any linux distro. If the drivers are bad, then it won't matter if you are on Sid or Ubuntu or _____ -- they'll be bad either way.
[01:04] <rasket> fyrestrtr, sound goot, i think 1gb should be enough ?! but could not see any option like this during boot
[01:05] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: umm - I don't really understand why you need to run a vnc server that way - why not start it from ~/.gnomerc ?
[01:05] <Daverocks> XiXaQ: afaik, the things run in rc.local run as root... and if they don't fork off by themselves, add a & to the end, like "x11vnc &" to force it to fork off as another job
[01:05] <teledyn_k> fyrestrtr: not necessarily.  many distros are proactive and patch things and test the drivers out.  they would release something that's been QAed a little bit
[01:05] <XiXaQ> thoreauputic, I don't know? I asked..
[01:05] <suredo> anyone?
[01:05] <Daverocks> suredo: what was the command?
[01:06] <fyrestrtr> teledyn_k: in my experience, ubunutu is better than most with hardware support. A lot of things surprised me by running out of the box.
[01:06] <suredo> mount -r,rw     something like that
[01:06] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: did you check if it can run as a daemon? Is there a start up script in /etc/init.d ? i haven't used x11vnc
[01:07] <teledyn_k> fyrestrtr: yeah i was curious how it compared with other distros.  i've been impressed before with centos and fedora with ou-of-the-box support for "non standard" hardware (e.g. common wifi devices that most people have)
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> teledyn_k: if I wanted to be 100% sure about something working, I'd always compile a kernel with the correct drivers.  Perhaps you should try more "commerical" distros like Suse or FC. Personally, I can't stand their software management systems, so I stay away from them.
[01:07] <teledyn_k> fyrestrtr: yum?  what's wrong with that?
[01:07] <XiXaQ> thoreauputic, is /etc/init.d a script?
[01:07] <Daverocks> XiXaQ: no, it's a folder
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> rpm just gives me a bad vibe.
[01:07] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: usually if you need something to start on ifup you put it in /etc/network/interfaces or similar as "post-up"
[01:07] <Daverocks> XiXaQ: unless you make one there... :P
[01:08] <rasket> i dont like suse
[01:08] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: have you read the man page for it?
[01:08] <teledyn_k> hehe.  but yum isn't rpm.  yum is to rpm what apt-get is to dpkg
[01:08] <XiXaQ> oh, so all those scripts are run at boot?
[01:08] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: yes
[01:08] <thoreauputic> XiXaQ: like /etc/init.d/networking  etc etc
[01:08] <teledyn_k> building rpm's might even be a bit easier than debs
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> teledyn_k: I have two FC and one CentOS server at work. I don't mind yum that much (because we don't upgrade the servers that often) but I once tried FC5 on my desktop while I was doing some HD housekeeping and man what a headache. This depends on that, which depends on the first thing.
[01:09] <AlexC> i've been messing with root and now the /root/ directory is read only! i can't load synaptic or many administrative applications and i can't log into root to fix this... can i fix this some other way and if so how? please help me.
[01:09] <rasket> does someone know how to boot live dvd and not to need the dvd after boot ? with ramdrive or something ?
[01:09] <suredo> Daverocks: is there a way to force a filesystem, like ext2, on a partition. cause thats what i've found out is wrong with grub
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: you've been a naughty boy. Try running fsck at boot (see tune2fs)
[01:10] <Daverocks> suredo: as in, "change" a partition to ext2?
[01:10] <AlexC> fyrestrtr: lol  , but it was fun
[01:10] <teledyn_k> i'm just wondering how much development goes into ubuntu kernels, specifically wrt to hardware support, and how much it gets QAed
[01:10] <suredo> it IS, or WAS ext2, but from what i know an error17 on grub is that it doesnt recognize the fs
[01:11] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: a lot :)
[01:11] <frogzoo> teledyn_k: the drivers come from the linux kernel devs
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> teledyn_k: join #ubuntu-offtopic I'm sure people there know more. We try to keep this chan for support issues.
[01:11] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: Ubuntu is famous for hardware support and detection
[01:11] <teledyn_k> so ubuntu kernel development is quite separate from debian's?
[01:11] <AlexC> i'm serious i can't do anything that uses root!!!
[01:11] <teledyn_k> i see.  thanks
[01:11] <mnepton> teledyn_k: yes
[01:11] <thoreauputic> teledyn_k: *sigh* as others have said, this is a support channel
[01:11] <frogzoo> suredo: grub error 17 means grub is accessing the wrong partition - fix grub, not the fs
[01:12] <AlexC> how do i make /root/ writable(un-read only it)
[01:12] <dbzdeath> hey could someone please help me i get choppy sound in basically everything if i use alsa or oss i get choppy sound in xmms and mplayer sometimes it's ok and then all of a sudden it starts getting choppy i'm using a sound blaster audigy value on the ca0106 driver could someone help me please?
[01:12] <AlexC> i can't get into root
[01:12] <suredo> frogzoo: got any info on how to fix grub then?
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: type 'mount', is your root drive mounted ro?
[01:12] <frogzoo> AlexC: why is root ro ? you must have a problem, boot off a live cd & fsk the partition
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> !grub > suredo
[01:12] <frogzoo> !fixgrub
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <thoreauputic> AlexC:  sudo chmod 755 /root  ( assuming that's where you need to go)
[01:13] <suredo> thanks, fyrestrtr
[01:13] <yeqing01> hello everyone!
[01:13] <thoreauputic> frogzoo: it isn't clear if he means / or /root
[01:13] <yeqing01> nice to meet you
[01:14] <AlexC> thoreauputic: ty, i'm trying it now
[01:14] <AlexC> thoreauputic: do i need to re-boot?
[01:14] <thoreauputic> AlexC:  /root is root's home directory - / is the filesystem root
[01:14] <Daverocks> AlexC: the root account on ubuntu is locked by default, if you can do things successfully with "sudo" then you're fine
[01:15] <thoreauputic> AlexC: assuming you saw no errors, /root should be accessible now
[01:15] <AlexC> thoreauputic: i'll try again
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: can you write to your home directory?
[01:15] <thoreauputic> AlexC: we aren't quite clear what you've done - something creative, no doubt
[01:16] <Daverocks> AlexC: it's normal to not be able to login as root with "su", you use "sudo"
[01:16] <thoreauputic> Daverocks: it is not clear that this is the problem
[01:16] <AlexC> thoreauputic: lol
[01:16] <Daverocks> thoreauputic: ok, just trying a few things
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> I think he's beyond that. I think he set a root password, did something fun, and now we are here.
[01:16] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: exactly
[01:16] <AlexC> Daverocks: you confused me
[01:17] <Daverocks> AlexC: sorry, don't worry :P
[01:17] <AlexC> i made /root/ read only
[01:17] <thoreauputic> AlexC: repeat slowly after me: " doing fun stuff as root is a BAD idea"
[01:17] <AlexC> that is my problem
[01:17] <saga> heya. My xorrg.conf uses ati, but i have an nvidia now, what should i change ati to?
[01:17] <rasket> where can i find info about boot params of ubuntu live ?
[01:17] <Daverocks> AlexC: yes, and "sudo chmod 755 /root/" should have fixed that
[01:17] <AlexC> doing fun stuff as root is a BAD idea
[01:17] <frogzoo> AlexC: ls -ld /root
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> rasket: try hitting F2 at the boot: prompt.
[01:17] <thoreauputic> AlexC: thank you
[01:18] <thoreauputic> AlexC: now don't do it again! *grin*
[01:18] <Jowi> hi all. got a resolution prob. Installed dapper on a intel mac mini, got 915resolution, manually set it to 1280x1024/16. ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, using i810 driver, setting the correct resolution and monitor frequencies. have tried with and without framebuffer. All I end up with is 1024x768, what gives?
[01:18] <saga> what driver should i type in xorg.conf for it to use software nvidia? pleease help!
[01:18] <rasket> fyrestrtr, ok, i will try, thanks :-)
[01:18] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[01:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> saga: install the nvidia drivers for your card. They'll be instructions there to help you change xorg.conf
[01:18] <georgy> saga : nv
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> saga: to get your system running though, switch it to 'nv' for now.
[01:18] <saga> nv, thanks! (im at cli now...)
[01:18] <manmadha> how to do asp programs in linux?
[01:19] <AlexC>  doing fun stuff as root is a BAD idea
[01:19] <AlexC>  doing fun stuff as root is a BAD idea
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> manmadha: asp or .net ?
[01:19] <AlexC>  doing fun stuff as root is a BAD idea
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: repeating is not that great of an idea either.
[01:19] <manmadha> fyrestrtr, asp & .nt
[01:19] <AlexC>  doing fun stuff TO root is a BAD idea
[01:19] <thoreauputic> AlexC: OK that'll do
[01:19] <Daverocks> manmadha: you can write asp scripts in linux and put them on a separate IIS server. for .NET, you can use mono
[01:19] <frogzoo> AlexC: so is spamming ;)
[01:19] <AlexC> lol
[01:20] <AlexC> lol
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> manmadha: for asp there is something called chillisoft, not I believe acquired by Sun. You can try your luck there. For .NET, there is mono.
[01:20] <AlexC> sorry
[01:20] <thoreauputic> AlexC: seriously, you will be removed if you continue
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> s/not/now/
[01:20] <AlexC> (i did lol twice because two things were funny)
[01:20] <rvalles> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "build-essencial"
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> rvalles: build-essential
[01:20] <thoreauputic> rvalles: build-essential
[01:20] <mnepton> manmadha: do you already have a large codebase in asp and/or .net?
[01:20] <Daverocks> rvalles: change "build-essencial" to "build-essential"
[01:20] <manmadha> thank u
[01:20] <rvalles> ok
[01:21] <Jowi> rvalles, check your spelling :)
[01:21] <AlexC> u spelt worng
[01:21] <manmadha> mnepton, nope
[01:21] <AlexC> wrong(lol)
[01:21] <rvalles> thank you
[01:21] <Daverocks> heh
[01:21] <pontusen> (im Saga) my xorg.conf has all info about ati, but i  changed one line to nv to get x to work, do i need to change anything else, or can i start installing drivers for nvidia right away?
[01:22] <mnepton> manmadha: so why not use php, ruby, python, or some other solution?
[01:22] <frogzoo> !nvidia > pontusen
[01:22] <pontusen> do i need to uninstall my last ati before trying on nvidia?
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> pontusen: you can start.
[01:23] <pontusen> YaY :D
[01:23] <ph8> does 5gb seem like too much for a /tmp partition on a server?
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> pontusen: I don't think you need to uninstall, as the modules are named differently.
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> ph8: depends on the intended purpose of the server.
[01:23] <rvalles> I am gonna build a recent kernel (2.6.18.1)
[01:23] <th_> hi, can I ask a question which might sound stupid ;) .. I want to install ubuntu but, i am not sure if I should use Kubuntu or plain Ubuntu.. thing is I know Kde pretty well already
[01:24] <rvalles> :-)
[01:24] <pontusen> sounds good, as of now, glxgears complain about missing dri, but installing nvidia will overwrite my xorg.conf anyway, right?
[01:24] <manmadha> mnepton, ya  i am learning python also....Is python can be used inted of asp?
[01:24] <th_> but then does Kubuntu have as much apps support etc. and is as up to date?
[01:24] <Jowi> th_, try the live cd's and decide after that
[01:24] <mnepton> ph8: you can definitely make it smaller as long as you remember you made it smaller and configure accordingly.
[01:24] <Daverocks> th_: if you install Ubuntu, you can always install the kubuntu-desktop package later
[01:24] <AlexC> E: ERROR: could not make configuration directory /root/.synaptic -mkdir (30 read-only file system)
[01:24] <th_> ok Daverocks that makes sense, I'll do that then :)
[01:24] <AlexC> that is my problem(one of them)
[01:25] <manmadha> mnepton, can u tell me how to use python insted of asp...
[01:25] <Nothing_about> hey there people i have a question to ask about ubuntu and using it on VMware
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: reboot from the livecd and run a file system check.
[01:25] <Daverocks> th_: but i think kubuntu has more stuff for kde than just kubuntu-desktop... :|
[01:25] <th_> hmm
[01:25] <mnepton> manmadha: there are web frameworks for python, yes. php is probably the most widely used. ruby and the ruby on rails framework have become very popular, very fast.
[01:25] <th_> but they are both equal size, so what am I missing out on as opposed to Ubuntu is what I'm worried about ;)
[01:25] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: just ask your question
[01:25] <mnepton> manmadha: i cannot teach you python, no.
[01:25] <Nothing_about> Since every time i start VMware , ubuntu loads up the live cd would it be possible to install ubuntu so i dont have to use the live cd
[01:25] <AlexC> fyrestrtr: ubuntu live cd?(normal or alternative?)
[01:25] <Daverocks> th_: Kubuntu doesn't include GNOME on its install CD is why they're about the same size
[01:26] <th_> ah ok
[01:26] <Daverocks> th_: well, afaik
[01:26] <Nothing_about> using VMware
[01:26] <Hallonen> th_: as mentioned; try the live CD's first, and then make your choice  ;)
[01:26] <th_> hehe.. Hallonen the trouble is I have only 1 mbps broadband here
[01:26] <th_> but I'll try the plain one first
[01:26] <Hallonen> hehe
[01:26] <Nothing_about> well i have and i want to install ubuntu using VMware so i can have it virtualy on my computer
[01:26] <ABbIRVALG> Peoples, can you help me... I  want to instal desktop ubuntu, but i need an ftp server. Can i install it later? (i dont'want to install ubuntu server, because i think that desktop has more friendly interface)
[01:26] <manmadha> mnepton, ohh thank u
[01:26] <Jowi> th_, if you install ubuntu you get gnome. if you install kubuntu you get kde. you can install gnome on top of kubuntu or kde on top of ubuntu. you can switch in between them as much as you like.
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> manmadha: lots of information about python here > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide
[01:27] <th_> Jowi, great then
[01:27] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: yes - you probably have vmware pointing to an .iso of the live cd atm, but yes, you can install ubuntu to a vm
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: it doesn't matter.
[01:27] <Nothing_about> but how ?
[01:27] <AlexC> fyrestrtr: ty
[01:27] <th_> Which one is better supported? with user-friednlyness and stuff i mean?
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> ABbIRVALG: sure you can.
[01:27] <AlexC> fyrestrtr: i'll be back
[01:27] <Nothing_about> so that i wont have to use the live cd again
[01:27] <JamieBE> Does anyone have an answer for this thread...? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273449
[01:27] <Daverocks> ABbIRVALG: yes, you can install an ftp server on your desktop ubuntu system
[01:27] <mnepton> manmadha: php, python, and ruby run on windows, also. and they easily run on almost anything else. asp and .net do not.
[01:28] <ABbIRVALG> fyrestrtr, Daverocks, thanks a lot))))
[01:28] <frogzoo> !vmware
[01:28] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
how would i be able to install ubuntu on vmware
[01:28] <th_> Is there any difference between amd64 version and the plain version, in respect to what software is available? I'm asking because windows x64 has caused me lots of grief :(
[01:28] <thoreauputic> JamieBE: do your file names contain spaces? Like "Foo Library"
[01:29] <thoreauputic> bah he left :(
[01:29] <Daverocks> th_: i think most packages in the ubuntu repos have a version compiled for amd64
[01:29] <Nothing_about> hey thoreauputic can you help me out
[01:30] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about: I can recommend a good shrink ;-)
[01:30] <th_> ok, I will try the amd64 livecd first and then install it if it is good :)
[01:30] <Nothing_about> yeh
[01:30] <th_> when i know I can install KDE on top as well, I'll use the plain version first
[01:30] <Nothing_about> shrink that knows how to install ubuntu onto VMware
[01:30] <thoreauputic> !ask
[01:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:30] <frogzoo> th_: generally, you're better off running 386 with the 686 kernel
[01:30] <th_> ah frogzoo
[01:30] <neo__> next problem....*sighs* "/home/neo/uplink-demo/lib/uplink.bin.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[01:30] <neo__> i checked /usr/lib and found libstdc++.so.6 which is a new version of what its saying i haven't got. any ideas
[01:31] <Nothing_about> Ok well my question is HOW CAN I INSTALL UBUNTU ONTO VMware . As a VIRTUAL OS
[01:31] <th_> frogzoo so that means I download the x86 CD and then i upgrade the kernel with one from x64 package or ?
[01:31] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: see the docs
[01:31] <frogzoo> !vmware > Nothing_about
[01:31] <Nothing_about> what docs ?
[01:31] <ccooke> neo__: apt-get install libstdc++5
[01:31] <jimdaniels> if you want to come and help Hans Reiser please join #freehans
[01:31] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about: you can get ready-made vmware Ubuntu from their website, I believe
[01:31] <Nothing_about> really
[01:31] <tritonx> hi all
[01:31] <Nothing_about> hmm well i might go an check into that
[01:32] <bun-bun> ...
[01:32] <frogzoo> th_: no, the 686 kernel is 32 bit - but it's almost as fast, and stability much better then 64 bit
[01:32] <th_> ah ok
[01:32] <jimdaniels> the 686 is for intel isn't it?
[01:32] <sandy16> hi there
[01:32] <tritonx> Penitum 4 and co
[01:32] <th_> but it works on Athlon 64 FX?
[01:32] <th_> dual core..
[01:33] <tritonx> better not, I think its amd64 you have to look for
[01:33] <th_> hm now im confused tritonx
[01:33] <th_> for Windows, i had x64 windows but also the normal Pentium windows works on this PC
[01:33] <sandy16> i am getting an i/o error while checking filesystem at the startup
[01:33] <tritonx> I did found once a nice page with a table explainning this
[01:33] <th_> but with x64 there were some drivers missing and stuff so I preferred the old version
[01:33] <th_> so I was wondering if ubuntu has the same sort of issues
[01:33] <ccooke> jimdaniels: the 386 kernel will run on anything past a 486. The 686 kernel will run on pentium-class or better, with some intel optimisations that AMD also supports. the k7 kernels are optimised for AMD chips
[01:33] <Lattyware> Heyone here know how to have a 'boss key' which hides a program from the notification area, and then shows it, with a key combination?
[01:34] <miranda82> fyrestrtr,
[01:34] <miranda82> fyrestrtr, hi :)
[01:34] <jimdaniels> ok
[01:34] <ccooke> (actually, the 386 *kernel* should run on a 386 IIRC. However, bits of glibc at least are 486-specific now)
[01:34] <Lattyware> *Hey, anyone
[01:34] <jimdaniels> can you guys tell me how i get a k7 kernel in edgy?
[01:34] <frogzoo> Lattyware: just keyboard shortcuts to minimise ?
[01:35] <th_> ccooke, so to sum it up .. can I use the "PC" version of the ubunu cd with my athlon 64 dual core cpu? or must I use the amd64 version..?
[01:35] <jimdaniels> i installd linux-k7 but still have "generic"
[01:35] <tritonx> jim: Id like to know too, is it normal to only see the default kernel
[01:35] <th_> and what would you do ;)
[01:35] <Daverocks> th_: in general, for most OSes, support for 32-bit is more prevalent than 64-bit, but as I said, I think you'll find most things available for ubuntu amd64
[01:35] <thoreauputic> jimdaniels: yes, the devs testeds and found no significant difference - hence generic
[01:35] <ccooke> th_: x86_64 is an extension available to AMD64 or newer Intel processors. You can use either 32 bit or 64 bit mode
[01:35] <thoreauputic> jimdaniels: the generic kernels are fine
[01:36] <llama32> anyone know of some general linux application wishlists? i want to write some sort of app but have no ideas :)
[01:36] <miranda82> after a fsck, i got a lot of problems, can't load gnome except in failsafe, can't install any package.. xkb won't load... anyone can help me?
[01:36] <tritonx> Im running it in amd64 at home, most of the stuff works, but I installed edgy over the basic install and the boot changed no more amd64 written
[01:36] <jimdaniels> so it won't run my athlon xp 3200+ better with k7 in edgy?
[01:36] <th_> ccooke, ok so it's like for Windows then. so would you go for the 64 bit version or is it more unstable / missing drivers/codecs etc like on windows?
[01:36] <jasper`> I could certainly give you a few, llama32.
[01:36] <ubuntu> damn
[01:36] <freakies> hello
[01:36] <Lattyware> jasper`: Indeed.
[01:36] <ubuntu> could not download the index of updates
[01:36] <ubuntu> cant update my distro
[01:36] <freakies> what could be the problem, i am not able to start "network-manger", but i have installed it?
[01:36] <thoreauputic> jimdaniels: so the discussion went on the ubuntu-devel mailing list, yes
[01:36] <ccooke> th_: hmm. *most* drivers are there. The difficulty is in third-party tools
[01:37] <ccooke> th_: for instance, there is currently no 64-bit flash player for linux
[01:37] <miranda82> freakies, try to laucnh it through a terminal, and see the error
[01:37] <th_> ccooke, ah, that is a bit annoying.. but it doesn't have a 32-bit emulation layer like windows?
[01:37] <jimdaniels> ok
[01:37] <jimdaniels> thanks
[01:37] <sandy16> can any body help me out please?
[01:37] <miranda82> after a fsck, i got a lot of problems, can't load gnome except in failsafe, can't install any package.. xkb won't load... anyone can help me?
[01:37] <llama32> jasper`: such as? i'm looking for something that could be portable between linux & windows, and doesn't require any 3D graphics... outside of that i'm open to suggestions :)
[01:37] <georgy> ! ask
[01:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:37] <freakies> miranda: network-manger - command not found
[01:38] <ccooke> th_: okay. It's not 32-bit emulation - if you boot with a 64-bit kernel, the system can run either 32-bit or 64-bit code
[01:38] <Daverocks> freakies: network-manager
[01:38] <jimdaniels> can anyone tell me how i get acpi support with my via kt600 chipset and athlon xp cpu ?
[01:38] <miranda82> freakies, aparently u haven't installed it:  apt-get install network-manager
[01:38] <Lattyware> llama32: What about a really good fast torrent app.
[01:38] <Daverocks> miranda82: i think it was a typo
[01:38] <Lattyware> Like uTorrent, but cross platform. I hate having to run uTorrent under wine.
[01:38] <ccooke> th_: it's running both natively; 32-bit code just doesn't get any of the 64-bit code's advantages
[01:38] <bun-bun> llama32# sourceforge.net has many projects that could use help, you may want to take a look.
[01:38] <ubuntu> im using the live cd, where is ubuntu recording my downloads?? virtual disk?
[01:38] <llama32> Lattyware: maybe not bit-torrent, but i'd consider something more limewire-ish
[01:38] <miranda82> Daverocks, i don't :P
[01:38] <ccooke> however, you need a complete set of libraries to run either type
[01:38] <Lattyware> limewire?
[01:39] <Daverocks> Lattyware: i'm a fan of azureus... i like it way better than utorrent
[01:39] <ccooke> so, you can't just run a 32-bit flash player
[01:39] <th_> ccooke, yes but it's that "wow64" thing they have.. where the kernel can be called from 32 bit code etc.. on Linux i guess if there is no flash player, it's because even the 32 bit one doesn't work ont he amd64 version?
[01:39] <miranda82> after a fsck, i got a lot of problems, can't load gnome except in failsafe, can't install any package.. xkb won't load... anyone can help me?
[01:39] <Daverocks> Lattyware: and azureus is cross-platform because it's java
[01:39] <Lattyware> Daverocks: I have just been trying to get it running again, but it allways slows me to a crawl.
[01:39] <AlexC> yay!!!!! root isn't ro anymore! thanks everyone ;-)
[01:39] <freakies> mirnada82, it is installed
[01:39] <ccooke> th_: no.
[01:39] <llama32> bun-bun: probably not - i specifically want something to try out ocaml for, and almost everything on sf.net seems C/C++/Java oriented
[01:39] <freakies> miranda82, and actually
[01:39] <neo__> ccooke: thanx that got it working!
[01:39] <th_> ah so it's because of libraries.. so can you run static linked code?
[01:39] <th_> even if its 32 bit?
[01:39] <Lattyware> I can't run somthing constantly that is that intensive on my system.
[01:39] <ccooke> th_: yes. You can also install a full set of 32-bit libraries
[01:40] <Daverocks> Lattyware: azureus isn't _that_ resource-intensive from my experience :|
[01:40] <bun-bun> Lattyware# bittornado works quite well for me
[01:40] <miranda82> freakies, apt returns it is already installed?
[01:40] <Lattyware> Daverocks: Well, it is for me.
[01:40] <jimdaniels> Daverocks: ever tried ktorrent? that's my fav
[01:40] <Daverocks> freakies: sure you typed "network-manager" as opposed to "network-manger"?
[01:40] <Lattyware> bun-bun: I used to use it under windows, but it lacks DHT, Multi-Torrent etc...
[01:40] <tritonx> anyone have any experience setting a mail-server(receive only) with a home-server/dhcp ?
[01:40] <Daverocks> jimdaniels: yeah, it's nice, but i'm a long-time azureus fan :P
[01:40] <th_> ccooke, ok that sounds like a good solution.. but.. I have started download the i386 livecd now, I will use that first because then i can also install it with my friends' pc :)
[01:40] <miranda82> azureus rocks the house...
[01:40] <ccooke> the Windows 64-bit is doing exactly the same thing; the processor itself can run both 32-bit and 64-bit code, but it can't run them *at the same time*. That is, you can't call a 32-bit library from a 64-bit-one
[01:41] <th_> then when i get to work next week I'll downlaod the 64 bit version :)
[01:41] <miranda82> after a fsck, i got a lot of problems, can't load gnome except in failsafe, can't install any package except reboot in failsafe .. xkb won't load... anyone can help me?
[01:41] <Lattyware> Frankly, the only choices I see are Azureus and uTorrent, as they are the only ones with all of the features that I want.
[01:41] <Daverocks> !anyone > tritonx
[01:41] <th_> ccooke, yes but that's what that "wow64" emulator does
[01:41] <Lattyware> and Azureus just kills my system.
[01:41] <miranda82> llama32, a killer app would be a relesease of a flash player 9 player...
[01:41] <ubuntu> WTF???????????????????? Im using the live CD. Suddenly buntu logged off and logged in. WTF??? Lost everything I was doing minutes ago
[01:41] <Daverocks> miranda82: YES
[01:41] <freakies> daverocks yes, net[tab]  - its network-admin
[01:42] <arsonist_> hello.
[01:42] <tritonx> what is this? I know it seems dumb but I ve followed all tutorial I could find
[01:42] <freakies> miranda82 yes, its acutally and installed
[01:42] <ccooke> th_: no. wow64 *is* a 32-bit environment
[01:42] <jasper`> ubuntu, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[01:42] <jimdaniels> ubuntu: daarnn wttttfff???????
[01:42] <th_> ccooke, so it is like "the complete libraries" you were talking about?
[01:42] <jimdaniels> haha yea
[01:42] <Daverocks> tritonx: what's your question?
[01:42] <ccooke> th_: it's doing exactly the same thing as if you installed a 32-bit chroot on linux
[01:42] <arsonist_> anyone has experiences with jackaudio?
[01:42] <miranda82> after a fsck, i got a lot of problems, can't load gnome except in failsafe, can't install any package except reboot in failsafe .. xkb won't load... anyone can help me?
[01:42] <arsonist_> i would need some general help
[01:42] <th_> ccooke, ok :)
[01:42] <mnepton> Lattyware: tried BitTornado or Torrentflux?
[01:42] <jimdaniels> !edgy
[01:42] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:43] <ubuntu> ut suddenly logged off
[01:43] <th_> so that's why the drivers from 32-bit windows don't work
[01:43] <Lattyware> BitTornado yes, see my resonce above, torrentflux no.
[01:43] <ccooke> th_: on the x86_64 chips, yes
[01:43] <miranda82> !schedule
[01:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:43] <Lattyware> But I really need DHT support.
[01:43] <Lattyware> Which most lack.
[01:43] <ccooke> th_: drivers have to interface with the kernel; providing them a 32-bit subsystem just won't be good enough
[01:43] <th_> ccooke, ok thanks a lot this whole thing is a lot clearer to me now.. is there a complete set of 32- bit libraries that can be installed as a package in amd64 ubuntu?
[01:43] <th_> or can you somehow install them from the 32-bit packages?
[01:44] <tritonx> dave: Im trying to be able to receive mal on my no-ip. Ive installed courier-imap, also runing firestarter for net sharing, the server seems to be listening  on the oustid since I can remote from the net, but maybe I didn<t configured it right but port 143 should be opened
[01:44] <miranda82> after a fsck, i got a lot of problems, can't load gnome except in failsafe, can't install any package except reboot in failsafe .. xkb won't load... anyone can help me?
[01:44] <ccooke> th_: there are various ways of doing things. There are 32-bit support packages that will run most stuff
[01:44] <ccooke> th_: there's also a couple of simple howtos that'll show you how to build a 32-bit chroot
[01:44] <freakies> miranda82, could it be the problem, in "system -> systemtools -> boot-tools" is not sn-applet --sm-disable
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> tritonx: telnet to your ip address on port 143 from outside and see what responds.
[01:45] <th_> ccooke: ok, then i guess it comes down to: is it worth the extra hassle to use 64 bit? is there like any serious performance gains etc?
[01:45] <miranda82> after a fsck, i got a lot of problems, can't load gnome except in failsafe, can't install any package except reboot in failsafe .. xkb won't load... anyone can help me?
[01:45] <freakies> miranda82, but it is nm-applet --sm-disable
[01:45] <mnepton> Lattyware: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTornado | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients <-- had DHT
[01:45] <ccooke> th_: oh yes. It depends on what you do, of course
[01:46] <mnepton> Lattyware: *has
[01:46] <mnepton> munh
[01:46] <ccooke> th_: but the 64-bit extensions fix one of the biggest flaws in the x86 architecture
[01:46] <Lattyware> does it? Hmmm, still, it's not multi-torrent.
[01:46] <th_> ccooke: which is?
[01:46] <sandy16> how can i solve i/o error problem while checking the filesystem at ubuntu startup?
[01:46] <jasper`> sandy16, same problem here..
[01:46] <mnepton> Lattyware: you can open as many instances as you need.
[01:46] <ccooke> th_: lack of registers
[01:47] <Lattyware> yes, but I don't want  them all going at once.
[01:47] <th_> ccooke: ok I see
[01:47] <Lattyware> I want them queued.
[01:47] <tritonx> ok.. how th ehell does telnet works...I know it has been there for a long time, but never had to go there
[01:47] <mnepton> Lattyware: so start and stop them or limit rates, just like in Azureus.
[01:47] <Lattyware> As one finishes the other needs to start.
[01:47] <miranda82> please help... one week with this problem... one week launching my session through a xterm failsafe.... after a fsck, i got a lot of problems, can't load gnome except in failsafe, can't install any package except reboot in failsafe .. xkb won't load... anyone can help me?
[01:47] <Caramba__> Hi folks! I've tried toi install Dapper but it doesn't recognize my hard disk correctly. The size of the disk is is 250G (BIOS sees the correct size), Ubuntu suggests it's 230. This (naturally) causes problems with the installed OS, but I haven't found a way of manually tweaking the hard disk settings while installing. Can it be done?
[01:47] <Lattyware> But I will often leave it for ages, alone, so I need it to run through them in order, automatically.
[01:47] <miranda82> freakies, don't thing
[01:47] <miranda82> freakies, don't think
[01:48] <ccooke> th_: Just going from 32-bit to 64-bit would not actually give much of an improvement (actually, without the register additions it would be a slowdown; your programs will tend to be bigger, so there's more data on the bus)
[01:48] <sandy16> jasper`, did you get any way to avoid it?
[01:48] <ccooke> th_: but the x86 is chronically short on registers
[01:48] <tritonx> hmm couldn't resolve no-ip.com:143
[01:48] <livingdaylight> what is the command to tell me whether my computer is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[01:48] <mnepton> Lattyware: then use Torrentflux
[01:48] <ccooke> th_: so, with the additional ones in x86_64 mode, you cut down on memory transfers and spend more time working.
[01:49] <ccooke> livingdaylight: uname -m will do it
[01:49] <livingdaylight> ccooke: thx! :)
[01:49] <Lattyware> mnepton: no DHT
[01:49] <th_> ccooke: ok.. i want to do raytracing with POVRay and stuff so I guess amd64 then..
[01:50] <miranda82> please help... one week with this problem... one week launching my session through a xterm failsafe.... after a fsck, i got a lot of problems, can't load gnome except in failsafe, can't install any package except reboot in failsafe .. xkb won't load... anyone can help me?
[01:50] <ccooke> th_: that would make sense. It's also something that will really not be affected by the stuff that's not available in 64-bit yet
[01:50] <th_> well, I also want to do office stuff etc.. :)
[01:51] <th_> and games.. but I will keep windows installed as well for that ;)
[01:51] <sandy16> fsck!
[01:51] <sandy16> !fsck
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <cpk2> Lattyware: dont know if it makes a difference resource wise but you can run azureus headless
[01:51] <tritonx> what should be the typo for telnet ... telnet myadress.no-ip.com:143 ?
[01:52] <miranda82> fyrestrtr, are u there?
[01:52] <th_> can ubuntu run from windows like knoppix?
[01:52] <MenZa> th_: you can dual boot.
[01:52] <MenZa> !dualboot
[01:52] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:53] <th_> MenZa, I know that, I mean where it runs inside a window with some emulator thing
[01:53] <th_> Knoppix does that
[01:53] <Caramba__> Still wondering: Can I manually tweak my hard disk settings when installing Ubuntu?
[01:53] <miranda82> please help... one week with this problem... one week launching my session through a xterm failsafe.... after a fsck, i got a lot of problems, can't load gnome except in failsafe, can't install any package except reboot in failsafe .. xkb won't load... anyone can help me?
[01:53] <MenZa> th_: you can run it in a virtual PC.
[01:53] <jimdaniels> anybody knows where the hard drive manager has gone in edgy?
[01:53] <MenZa> (I don't recommend that, but it works for some)
[01:53] <MenZa> jimdaniels: #ubuntu+1
[01:53] <tritonx> what th ehell is fsck ?
[01:53] <MenZa> tritonx: file-system check.
[01:54] <MenZa> !fsck
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <cpk2> miranda82: did fsck find errors?
[01:54] <MenZa> :o
[01:54] <miranda82> tritonx, file system check
[01:54] <miranda82> cpk2, yeah
[01:54] <jimdaniels> MenZa: nobody is answering there
[01:54] <MenZa> jimdaniels: ah.
[01:54] <cpk2> miranda82: thats your problem
[01:54] <MenZa> jimdaniels: I wouldn't know :\
[01:54] <frogzoo> th_: you can run linux under vmware on windows, but really...
[01:54] <cpk2> miranda82: you should probably strongly consider getting a new hd
[01:54] <miranda82> cpk2, ??
[01:55] <miranda82> cpk2, i repaired the errors
[01:55] <cpk2> miranda82: error = bad block
[01:55] <jimdaniels> MenZa do you know a command i can run the hard drive manager manually with in dapper?
[01:55] <th_> frogzoo, don't worry I plan to install it.. I just wanted to show it to some friends in Windows ;)
[01:55] <miranda82> cpk2, actualy the errors were not bad blocks
[01:55] <frogzoo> Caramba__: you need to edit /etc/hdparm.conf after the install
[01:55] <MenZa> jimdaniels: nope :\
[01:55] <wiggy> does anyone know what russkaya.ubuntu.com is and why it's pulling 1gb of svn traffic in a single day every month?
[01:56] <jimdaniels> MenZa: do you know a way i can find this out?
[01:56] <miranda82> cpk2, everything works... but as i explianed, 4 example, for installing something i can't do it from gnome
[01:56] <miranda82> cpk2, gotta reboot in failsafe terminal
[01:56] <MenZa> jimdaniels: I can only recommend #ubuntu+1
[01:56] <MenZa> (or #ubuntu-offtopic, if noone responds in +1)
[01:56] <frogzoo> wiggy: wierd
[01:56] <miranda82> cpk2, my gnome session won't boot, but if i use the xterm i got instead, and load gnome-session it works
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> miranda82: add a new user to the system
[01:57] <miranda82> cpk2, so i assume there must be some kind of fix for that
[01:57] <miranda82> fyrestrtr, hiya
[01:57] <miranda82> fyrestrtr, i tried
[01:57] <miranda82> fyrestrtr, does not work
[01:57] <wiggy> frogzoo: annoying is the word that came to my mind :)
[01:57] <miranda82> fyrestrtr, i also made gnome-reset
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> what doesn't work?
[01:57] <Caramba__> frogzoo: can i edit stuff like headers, cylinders and son on *after*the installation? I wonder...
[01:57] <miranda82> fyrestrtr, new user won't load gnome-session either
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> reinstall your system
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> make a backup and reinstall it.
[01:58] <frogzoo> Caramba__: only if you're a super file system expert - otherwise, leave alone
[01:58] <miranda82> fyrestrtr, i assume there is no option...
[01:58] <tritonx> or remove gnome-session and reinstall it
[01:58] <miranda82> tritonx, already done it
[01:59] <tritonx> mir: guess you check xorg.conf and gdm.conf-custom
[01:59] <miranda82> yeah
[01:59] <tritonx> these two screwed me once but they were baisc problems
[01:59] <Caramba__> frogzoo: My problem is that Ubuntu doesn't recognize my hard disk correctly. This (naturally) causes a lot of problems - basically the installation is unusable. So, I'd like to be able to manually tweak the hard disk settings while installing. Haven't seen an option like that in the installation procedure, though.
[02:00] <ubuntu> no
[02:00] <tritonx> are you stuck with the blinking _ in the left corner ?
[02:00] <ubuntu> it wasnt a xwindow crash
[02:00] <miranda82> tritonx, yeah... i know.. but this time they are perfect
[02:00] <frogzoo> Caramba__: do you have bios set to LBA access on the drive ?
[02:00] <miranda82> tritonx, that's for me?
[02:00] <tritonx> mir: yes
[02:00] <Caramba__> frogzoo: Hmm...dunno...I'll have to check that.
[02:00] <ubuntu> the "power down" button on my keyboard is active, if I accidentaly touch it, ubuntu automatically logf off and relogs back
[02:01] <miranda82> tritonx, yes, ggot that while installing through apt
[02:02] <jimdaniels> does anybody know a list of all gnome integrated applications?
[02:02] <jimdaniels> i need the name of the hard drive manager
[02:02] <tritonx> mir: could it be a video driver problem , with fsck , did the operation went smoothly or some files were repaired
[02:02] <frogzoo> jimdaniels: apt-cache search gnome    ?
[02:02] <tritonx> ?
[02:02] <miranda82> tritonx, got 2 repair lots of files..
[02:02] <miranda82> lots
[02:03] <tritonx> hmm, could your drive be dying ?
[02:03] <miranda82> tritonx, effectively the first broke, was rthe xorg-xserver
[02:03] <pirast> how can i get xchat-gnome to log messages?
[02:03] <Caramba__> frogzoo: Nope, was on auto, and the values changed radically when I changed it to LBA. Let's see what happens. What's this LBA-stuff, anyway?
[02:03] <miranda82> tritonx, don't think so...
[02:03] <tritonx> what filesystem u using ?
[02:03] <jimdaniels> pirast: xchat-gnome is complet **** try xchat instead
[02:03] <pirast> thx
[02:03] <miranda82> tritonx, cuz everything works fine... can access everything, download files...large ones...
[02:04] <miranda82> tritium, ext3
[02:04] <miranda82> tritonx, ext3
[02:04] <tritonx> mir: you have reinstall X-server xorg etc... ?
[02:04] <frogzoo> Caramba__: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/modesLBA-c.html
[02:04] <miranda82> tritonx, yep
[02:04] <miranda82> tritonx, and nvidia-glx
[02:04] <Caramba__> frogzoo: Cheers - I owe you big time if this fixes my problems!
[02:04] <cpk2> miranda82: did anything get put in lost and found? just out of curiosity?
[02:05] <miranda82> cpk2, it did
[02:05] <tritonx> mir: I dunno, upgrade to edgy ;P
[02:05] <peter77> Hi, I've installed XGL on edgy but I keep getting xsession errors when trying to start an xgl session
[02:05] <miranda82> tritlol
[02:05] <tritonx> mir: its what I did when I screwed up mine
[02:05] <miranda82> tritonx, lol
[02:05] <miranda82> tritonx, works now?
[02:05] <peter77> I'm using a laptop which has an ATI RADEON IGP 345M
[02:05] <tritonx> mir: now is working fine , with 3d desktop and etc.
[02:05] <peter77> how do I get XGL to work?
[02:06] <tritonx> mir: but Im on amd64, thats why I switched
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> !xgl > peter77
[02:06] <himmelstr_utz> I have a Rage 128 Pro card - where can I find out if its supported by X.Org or XFREE?
[02:06] <miranda82> tritonx, why u switched?
[02:06] <nick43843> #slackware
[02:06] <miranda82> tritonx, better support for 64bit?
[02:06] <nick43843> #slackware
[02:06] <nick43843> #slackware
[02:06] <nick43843> #slackware
[02:06] <nick43843> #slackware
[02:06] <LoRez> Warning: `nick43843' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[02:06] <nick43843> #slackware
[02:06] <nick43843> #slackware
[02:06] <tritonx> mir: couldn't get Beryl to work,
[02:07] <tritonx> mir: and I read that edgy is better at 64/32bit togetherso ...
[02:07] <miranda82> tritonx, don't like that minimize effect they puted
[02:07] <tritonx> mir: Im very pleased with it, if all beta could be like that,
[02:08] <peter77> I've already installed XGL, it isn't working
[02:08] <tritonx> mir: you can tweak everything you want
[02:08] <miranda82> tritonx, lot of work there...
[02:08] <miranda82> tritonx, i tried it in the early days of compiz
[02:08] <tritonx> mir: never tried compiz
[02:08] <afief> I want an ISO image to be automatically mounted everytime i run the PC, how do i do that?
[02:08] <tritonx> mir: Im pretty new to this
[02:08] <miranda82> tritonx, but...  i found it... ok it's cool, but... does not apport anything to usability
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> afief: add a line in /etc/fstab
[02:09] <miranda82> tritonx, beryl was compiz
[02:09] <tritonx> mir: I use the expose effect a lot, yeah I hear compiz was beryl, still some ppl say they prefer compiz...
[02:10] <afief> fyrestrt: well, i don't know what to write in there. for example what filesystem should i specify?
[02:10] <miranda82> tritonx, u use aiglx? or xgl?
[02:10] <tritonx> mir: for a software that is 0.1.0 is pretty amazingly stable
[02:10] <peter77>     *  Radeon IGP 345M
[02:10] <peter77>           o Chipset:
[02:10] <peter77>           o Driver: xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3
[02:10] <peter77>           o Notes: No DRI. Use EXA to prevent flickering
[02:10] <tritonx> mir: think Im using aiglx...
[02:10] <peter77> my card is supported so why won't xgl work?
[02:10] <tritonx> ;P
[02:10] <tritonx> peter77: have you followed a tutorial ?
[02:11] <peter77> yes
[02:11] <sakitel> hello
[02:11] <Caramba__> frogzoo: Yaynow the hd-size is correct! Thx, buy you a beer when we meet :)
[02:11] <miranda82> tritonx,  i used to have problems with xgl, so i just decided to wait until it was more stable, but now i want to try aiglx
[02:11] <sakitel> which is the last kernel for ubuntu?
[02:11] <tritonx> peter77: architecture ? dapper, edgy ?
[02:11] <sakitel> I have 2.6.15-27-386
[02:11] <miranda82> tritonx, can u play games? i mean 3d
[02:11] <peter77> 32-bit Edgy
[02:11] <tritonx> mir: yes , from desktop you mean ?
[02:12] <miranda82> tritonx, with aiglx
[02:12] <tritonx> peter: there is a nice tutorial on beryl forum
[02:12] <tritonx> for edgy too
[02:12] <tritonx> did you got the beta driver from nvidia ?
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> sakitel: you have the latest one.
[02:12] <miranda82> tritonx, i mean, without any strange overlapping or something...
[02:12] <tritonx> mir: what do you mean ?
[02:12] <peter77> I used the ATI tutorial on here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[02:13] <tritonx> mir: everything seems fine, works in full screen, compare to b4 stuck in a window
[02:13] <fabiuz> Hi !!! I'm a new user of ubuntu ....and I have a big problem . My system is Athlon 64 3000+, Mainboar Asus , RAM 512Mbb DDR400  , soundblaster 5.1 e AtiRadeon 9600 pro. I  can't intall ubuntu on this machines becouse every time I try to do that, the process freeze !! Every time , after the boot screen the computer don't respond to any command. Please someone can help me. Thak's!!
[02:13] <frogzoo> Caramba__: glad that helped
[02:13] <tritonx> ohh, ATI, sory can't help
[02:13] <miranda82> tritonx, when i was using xgl, sometimes while palying fullscreen videos, i experienced problems, transparencys, overlapping, also with games
[02:14] <jasper`> fabiuz, funny, I had the same problem myself a few days ago.
[02:14] <tritonx> mir: this never was a problem, maybe a litle bug in true combat, but thinks its due to drivers/software
[02:14] <frogzoo> fabiuz: can you run the live cd ?
[02:14] <tritonx> mir: very minor bug
[02:14] <fabiuz> no , nothing :(
[02:14] <miranda82> tritonx, nvidia or ati?
[02:14] <jimdaniels> is there a command for settings the current resoultion?
[02:14] <tritonx> mir: nvidia 6200
[02:14] <fabiuz> I don't undestand what's the problem... :(
[02:15] <frogzoo> !fixres > jimdaniels
[02:15] <fabiuz> uff :(
[02:15] <miranda82> tritonx, i think i'm going to update to edgy, and give a try to aiglx
[02:15] <jimdaniels> frogzoo: thx thx
[02:15] <tritonx> mir: If I can get it to work I guess you can,
[02:15] <darkbit> hi
[02:15] <tritonx> mir: I did a terminal upgrade, be patient , it takes a while
[02:16] <miranda82> tritium, never though of upgrading to edgy to solve that issue... good idea
[02:16] <miranda82> tritonx, yeah i know...
[02:16] <darkbit> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4289/ what load? ;) any hints? bug in top? my system is not slowed down
[02:16] <tritonx> mir: upgrading to edgy was the best thing I did, my server still in dapper but its a server
[02:17] <miranda82> tritonx, did u made it throught black terminal? or during a gnome-session?
[02:17] <peter77> how do I install the driver xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3
[02:17] <tritonx> mir: I dont remember but I think to be safe I did it in a failsafe terminal
[02:17] <tritonx> or had to stop gnome , not sure
[02:17] <justthisguy> Hey guys, when I try to use a hama usb2 hub I get this repeated over and over in the dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26730/ . Can anyone help?
[02:17] <miranda82> ok
[02:17] <miranda82> Trinisan, t thx
[02:18] <miranda82> tritonx, thx
[02:18] <tritonx> np
[02:18] <tritonx> mir: good luck if you try it
[02:18] <miranda82> yeash
[02:18] <miranda82> gotta do it right now...
[02:18] <tritonx> mir: heyhey, the more soft installed you have, the longer it will take
[02:18] <miranda82> tritonx, got time... lol
[02:19] <tritonx> mir: hope you have bandwith too ;P
[02:19] <miranda82> tritium, 1 MB ....
[02:19] <miranda82> :S
[02:19] <tritonx> mir : in k/s it means how much ?
[02:19] <miranda82> 110
[02:19] <miranda82> more or less
[02:19] <miranda82> 108
[02:20] <miranda82> lol
[02:20] <miranda82> paaaaaaatienceeee
[02:20] <tritonx> mir: kb/s ?
[02:20] <miranda82> yep
[02:20] <tritonx> mir: thats gonna take a while
[02:20] <miranda82> tritonx, i know... kind of hours...
[02:21] <tritonx> mir: 1,5gig I had to download at 500kb/s and took me at least 1h30
[02:21] <miranda82> ummm
[02:21] <tritonx> only to download, an other hour to install
[02:21] <tritonx> it goes through all the programs
[02:21] <miranda82> yeah
[02:22] <miranda82> tritonx, but i want my system to be fixed..
[02:22] <jasper`> fabian, no one provide a fix yet?
[02:22] <tritonx> mir:64bits ?
[02:22] <miranda82> tritonx, no
[02:22] <jasper`> any way of seeing my CPU temperature?
[02:23] <jimdaniels> can't anybody tell me the command to run the gnome hard drive manager via console?
[02:24] <jimdaniels> i can't find a menu entry for it here in edgy but i  rarely need it
[02:25] <palski> hal-device-manager?
[02:28] <miranda82> tritonx, on the edgy wiki dows not recomment failsafe for upgrading... just done: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[02:30] <tritonx> mir: I followed what they say on the site, so do what they say, Its been a while, memory forgets
[02:30] <miranda82> tritonx, first error... can't install ubuntu-desktop ....
[02:30] <miranda82> tritonx, lol... how bad luck...
[02:31] <tritonx> hmmm, sudo it ?
[02:31] <miranda82> tritonx, i was already gksudo
[02:31] <tritonx> ... you have to change the sources.list I Think
[02:31] <tritonx> change every dapper for edgy
[02:31] <miranda82> tritonx, that's the dirty way... lol
[02:32] <tritonx> think I did that
[02:32] <B-Minus> hello
[02:32] <miranda82> tritonx, definitely gotta doit in failsafed
[02:32] <miranda82> tritonx, c ya, gonna do it
[02:32] <B-Minus> does anyone have a DELL latitude 620 ? i cant seem to install ubuntu or kubuntu on it
[02:32] <tritonx> they say either via a;t-f2 por terminal
[02:32] <nizo> hi all
[02:33] <B-Minus> it keeps locking up and it says something of hw_random : unable to ...
[02:33] <miranda82> tritonx, but does not work
[02:33] <tritonx> alt-f2 or termianl, think it means before X and gnome load
[02:33] <miranda82> alt+f2 is gnome shortcut for RUN
[02:34] <nizo> i have ubuntu server 6. and i have ADSL Router in the network and i want to forward all the internet trafic into this router
[02:34] <nizo>  i have ubuntu server 6. and i have ADSL Router in the network and i want to forward all the internet trafic into this router
[02:34] <tritonx> nizo: with 2 ethernet ?
[02:34] <nizo> any one can help
[02:34] <nizo> no
[02:34] <nizo> one ethernet
[02:35] <nizo> the router is conected to the switch
[02:35] <tritonx> nizo: oh sry misread, try firestarter, its a gui for configuring stuff like that
[02:35] <georgy> ! dhcpd
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <nizo> i dont jave gui
[02:35] <nizo> its a server linux\
[02:35] <nizo> server edition
[02:36] <nizo> no gui
[02:36] <tritonx> hmm maybe shorewall is the terminal equivalent
[02:36] <georgy> ! dhcp3-relay
[02:36] <ubotu> dhcp3-relay: DHCP Relay. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-6ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 292 kB
[02:36] <nizo> ok
[02:36] <tritonx> or you have to learn about iptables
[02:36] <tritonx> !shorewall
[02:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[02:37] <nizo> what should i wrote apt-get install shorewall
[02:37] <tritonx> this will get you the program
[02:37] <ichanFX> hello, where to download HP 5550 driver please?
[02:37] <fyrestrtr> nizo: http://www.shorewall.net/two-interface.htm
[02:37] <fyrestrtr> ichanFX: is that a printer?
[02:38] <ichanFX> yes printer
[02:38] <ichanFX> :)
[02:38] <fyrestrtr> ichanFX: try linuxprinting.org
[02:38] <ichanFX> okay thanks a lot man
[02:38] <ichanFX> i'm really new to linux, i'm afraid i'm so blank about this OS
[02:38] <ichanFX> but this channel helps a lot thanks
[02:38] <fyrestrtr> well that's how you'll learn, by asking questions and exploring for yourself.
[02:39] <ichanFX> oh 1 thing, about playing windows games in ubuntu
[02:39] <ichanFX> what program do i have to get?
[02:39] <pontusen> when i mount hdc3 to /media/one  i also get a shortcut at my Desktop, any way to remove that shortcut?
[02:39] <justthisguy> ichanFX: wine
[02:39] <tritonx> ichanFx: better make your printer work first
[02:39] <fyrestrtr> ichanFX: wine, but first check how well your game is supported at http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:39] <Daverocks> ichanFX: you could try Cedega, but it doesn't work with everything
[02:40] <ichanFX> lol okay thanks all :D
[02:40] <ichanFX> i better get my printer work 1st
[02:40] <ichanFX> this OS rocks!
[02:40] <fyrestrtr> pontusen: gconf-editor, then nautilus and options -- there is an option there to stop showing icons for automounted stuff.
[02:41] <nizo> okay i installed the sharewall
[02:41] <nizo> now how to forward the conection
[02:41] <nizo> the internet conection
[02:41] <fyrestrtr> nizo: read http://www.shorewall.net/two-interface.htm
[02:42] <ichanFX> emm, can i use 2 instance of GAIM? 1 for IRC & 1 for MSN?
[02:42] <nizo> i dont habe 2 inerfaces
[02:42] <ricanelite> Hello and good morning to everyone!
[02:42] <fyrestrtr> ichanFX: you can login to multiple accounts in gaim at the same time. Just add your extra accounts.
[02:43] <nizo> i have just one network card
[02:43] <ricanelite> Does anyone here have any experience using MOL?
[02:43] <nizo> have
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> nizo: http://www.shorewall.net/standalone.htm
[02:43] <mnepton> ichanFX: one instance will connect to both services with whatever usernames you supply. but GAIM for IRC is not something i'd do.
[02:43] <daxxar> Hm, I've installed bridge-utils and set up a bridge between two interfaces. How do I get this to be autoconfigured?
[02:44] <ichanFX> can i running 2 of them together?
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> ichanFX: why?
[02:44] <ichanFX> because i need 1 for IRC & 1 for MSN
[02:44] <daxxar> Hmm. /me reads /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/README.Debian.gz
[02:44] <mnepton> ichanFX: GAIM can connect to both at once
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> ichanFX: you only need one instance. gaim can connect to both at the same time.
[02:44] <ichanFX> oh okay i'll try it
[02:44] <ichanFX> thanks all
[02:45] <ichanFX> wow it works,
[02:45] <ichanFX> ;)
[02:45] <justthisguy> yeah gaim is cool for that
[02:45] <ichanFX> yes really cool
[02:45] <ichanFX> maybe someday i'll erase my windows
[02:46] <justthisguy> fyrestrtr: I use emacs ;)
[02:46] <mnepton> fyrestrtr: irssi or jIRCii for me
[02:46] <fyrestrtr> justthisguy: you sadist :)
[02:46] <justthisguy> not at all :D
[02:46] <justthisguy> its a really nice client
[02:47] <ichanFX> even my mom can use this OS for works
[02:47] <ichanFX> really simple
[02:49] <frogzoo> how can I get amarok to play cds when inserted ?
[02:52] <ichanFX> hi, can i use autoCAD on my ubuntu?
[02:52] <charlie5> does anyone use a netcomm NBS+4 modem/router ... who could help me set up port forwarding to allow ktorrent/amule to work properly ?
[02:52] <charlie5> ... and hello :)
[02:54] <nizo> could anyone help me about how to use the firestarter
[02:54] <anon32> nizo, sure, what do you need?
[02:54] <nizo> i mean the shorewall
[02:54] <nizo> the shorewall
[02:54] <lupine_85> sure...
[02:55] <anon32> nizo, sure
[02:55] <Hooked-on-GL> hey
[02:55] <lupine_85> :) sorry, I just use iptables
[02:55] <ichanFX> hello, how to show Network Connections on ubuntu? i want to check my send & receive bytes
[02:55] <nizo> i want to forward all the conections from the clients computer to the router
[02:55] <nizo> i have 1 nic in the server
[02:55] <anon32> nizo, err... why?
[02:55] <lupine_85> NAT?
[02:55] <nizo> the router is conecting to the hub
[02:55] <jasper`> ichanFX, ifconfig
[02:56] <nizo> its adsl router
[02:56] <nizo> can i do that
[02:56] <nizo> ?
[02:56] <anon32> nizo, if you enable internet connection sharing, firestarter will allow you to forward ports
[02:56] <lupine_85> nizo: you're best doing it properly - enable IP forwarding on the linux PC and add a static route on the router
[02:56] <jasper`> or you could just stick an iptables command into a script, nizo.
[02:56] <lupine_85> double NAT is not fun
[02:57] <anon32> what lupine_85 said
[02:57] <nizo> i dont know how
[02:57] <nizo> i dont knwo how to enable port forwarding
[02:57] <anon32> nizo, tell me, what iptables gui are you using (e.g. firestarter, etc)
[02:57] <nizo> i dont have gui
[02:57] <lupine_85> oh, you want to forward *ports*...
[02:57] <anon32> ah ha
[02:57] <jasper`> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport port_number -j DNAT --to-destination destination_IP
[02:57] <nizo> l work in terminal
[02:58] <lupine_85> or get rid of the NAT completely. Either works
[02:58] <anon32> jasper`'s probably got it
[02:58] <jmspeex> I've got a 1920x1200 LCD, but Dapper and Edgy only do 1600x1200. Any idea?
[02:58] <jasper`> nizo, IF you have the tables defined.
[02:58] <jasper`> and a few other tricks.
[02:59] <justthisguy> jmspeex: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <cpk2> pretty sure you have to have the nat set up to share the connection
[02:59] <lupine_85> nope
[02:59] <lupine_85> as long as the router supports static routing, you're fine
[02:59] <nizo> i dont want to forward ports
[03:00] <nizo> i want to forward everything
[03:00] <hype> hi
[03:00] <nizo> i want to make the linux server work as a router\
[03:00] <cpk2> i think MASQUERADE will forward everything?
[03:00] <ricanelite> Anyone here knows about MOL?
[03:00] <lupine_85> though you could bridge it
[03:00] <jasper`> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[03:00] <jasper`> $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTIF -j SNAT --to-source $IP
[03:00] <lupine_85> that would be best, actuallu
[03:00] <lupine_85> !brutils
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <hype> anybody knows an app to record whats is going out of my sound card? ("what i hear")
[03:00] <lupine_85> !bridge-utils
[03:00] <ubotu> bridge-utils: Utilities for configuring the Linux ethernet bridge. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1build1 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 144 kB
[03:01] <jmspeex> justthisguy: The Intel 950 chipset is supported by the i810 driver, right?
[03:01] <nizo> help
[03:01] <anon32> hype, the sound recorder that comes with Ubuntu does nicely
[03:01] <justthisguy> hype: gstreamer
[03:01] <hype> anon32 cant have to record the sound :/
[03:01] <hype> justthisguy cheers
[03:01] <anon32> hype, you said you wanted to record the output of your sound card.....
[03:02] <justthisguy> theres a gui program for it, called pipeline editor or something
[03:02] <hype>  well, record without an external recorder
[03:02] <justthisguy> its nearly as easy as joining up dots
[03:02] <hype> which means i want to record "what i hear"
[03:02] <anon32> hype, that's what I said...
[03:02] <tritonx> have you check the mixer, maybe you should turn the capture on
[03:03] <a_l_e> hello: is there a way to avoid the start of gthumb when a sdcard is inserted?
[03:03] <hype> the thing, i have no options at the input selection tab
[03:03] <hype> -_-
[03:03] <tritonx> hype: you have to add them from properties
[03:03] <hype> my souind card is recognized and works
[03:03] <hype> ok
[03:04] <nizo> how to make a linux server ubuntu an internet getway ?
[03:04] <Windkracht8> a_l_e system-preferences-removable drives and media
[03:05] <tritonx> nizo: with firestarter and 2 nic ?
[03:05] <a_l_e> Windkracht8: thanks... does exactly what i need!
[03:05] <nizo> i dont have 2 niz
[03:05] <Windkracht8> cheers
[03:05] <nizo> nic
[03:05] <anon32> nizo, just buy a router?
[03:05] <nizo> i have 1 nic
[03:05] <nizo> and i have a router in my netwrok
[03:05] <cpk2> whenever I try apt-get -b package i get the same errors at the end, any tips on using the apt-get -b function?
[03:05] <tritonx> nizo: ... so what do you want or need ?
[03:05] <Windkracht8> nizo, then why do you need to gateway?
[03:06] <anon32> nizo, then why are you trying to turn your box into another server?
[03:06] <anon32> another router*
[03:06] <a_l_e> Windkracht8: i was looking in the prefs from gthumb and didn't found anything :-(
[03:06] <tritonx> nizo: a nic is 10$ even less
[03:06] <nizo> cause i want to install squid cache
[03:06] <anon32> nizo, hmm
[03:07] <anon32> just out of curiosity, why? the only time I've seen people use squid is when they attempted to filter my internet access
[03:07] <nizo> and i dont want the cilent to put the ports and the ip onto the internet options
[03:07] <lupine_85> 1. install squid. 2. set up the proxy details on the other PC
[03:07] <Windkracht8> nizo, I've got nic's right here, you just need to pick them up, Nijmegen, the netherlands
[03:07] <nizo> i instlled suid
[03:08] <nizo> what i need it to make it work with the router
[03:08] <nizo> the ip of the router is : 192.168.13.1
[03:08] <Windkracht8> you could put another ip-adres on your nic
[03:08] <nizo> and the server 192.168.13.5
[03:08] <lupine_85> then you want HTTP session hijacking, which is difficult and expensive in hardware
[03:08] <lupine_85> a Cisco would do it, I have no doubr
[03:08] <tritonx> nizo: I think I see what you want,  but would be much simpler to have two nic in a server that way traffic HAS to pass throught it
[03:09] <nizo> okay
[03:09] <tritonx> nizo : if you have a router on the switch, I guess you could only allow one comp to acces it, but ...
[03:09] <lupine_85> is it just for authentication, or do you want to apply filtering as well?
[03:09] <nizo> i will installed a new nic
[03:09] <nizo> then what
[03:09] <lupine_85> if the former, 802.1X would be a suitable solution (rather than squid)
[03:09] <nizo> what the way to do  that
[03:10] <lupine_85> scary ;)
[03:10] <Windkracht8> nizo, or add another ip-address to the nic, this way it will ack as if you have to nics
[03:10] <tritonx> nizo: in my case I use firestarter to manage net sharing and port and stuff like that
[03:10] <jmspeex> justthisguy: still doesn't work. The Xorg.log file says the hsync range is not within the DDC hsync range. Any idea what that means?
[03:10] <lupine_85> Windkracht8: do you get two physical ports in the NIC as well, when you do that? ;)
[03:10] <nizo> okay
[03:10] <nizo> tell me how to put the firesatrter
[03:11] <Windkracht8> lupine_85, no, but you can relay internet traffic
[03:11] <tritonx> nizo : you mean the config ?
[03:11] <lupine_85> you can do that as effectively with 1 IP
[03:11] <nizo> no, how to instal it
[03:11] <lupine_85> !firestarter
[03:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:11] <nizo> in the ubuntu 6 server
[03:11] <cpk2> jmspeex: did you try adding in the resolutions into the mode section?
[03:11] <tritonx> sudo apt-get install firestart shoudl work
[03:11] <cpk2> jmspeex: in you xorg.conf
[03:11] <tritonx> with no mt
[03:11] <nizo> okay
[03:11] <nizo> wait
[03:11] <nizo> i will try\
[03:13] <nizo> its not work
[03:13] <tritonx> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[03:13] <tritonx> not firestart
[03:13] <jmspeex> cpk2: the xorg.conf file contains *only* the 1920x1200 resolution, nothing else.
[03:13] <nizo> the same
[03:13] <tritonx> nizo: look for it in synaptic then
[03:14] <tritonx> do you have all the repos ?
[03:14] <nizo> what synaptic
[03:14] <cpk2> jmspeex: and you set the right horz sync and vert refresh in xorg?
[03:14] <tritonx> synaptic package manager
[03:14] <tritonx> system-admin-synaptic
[03:14] <nizo> how to look for it ?
[03:14] <jmspeex> cpk2: oh, the log file also says "not using mode "1920x1200" (no mode of this name)"
[03:14] <lupine_85_a> !info firestarter dapper
[03:14] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[03:14] <frogzoo> noone knows how to get amarok to launch & play cd when inserted ?
[03:14] <lupine_85_a> there it is
[03:14] <lupine_85_a> in universe
[03:14] <cpk2> jmspeex: you can do sudo ddcprobe to see what your system believes the monitor can do
[03:15] <jmspeex> cpk2: isn't hsync supposed to be auto-detected (how am I supposed to know these values)?
[03:15] <anon32> say, what does installing rpm on Ubuntu do?
[03:15] <lupine_85_a> anon32: not a lot
[03:15] <anon32> lol
[03:15] <lupine_85_a> you can convert rpm->deb using alien, but it's not really recommended for many things
[03:15] <frogzoo> anon32: you're best off avoiding rpms, & get ubuntu release specific debs
[03:15] <cpk2> jmspeex: if you are lucky ddcprobe can detect the values, otherwise you will need a manual or somesuch
[03:15] <th_> hi .. I have just burned a CD with ubuntu for amd64, but when I try to boot it it only gets to "booting the kernel" and then a screen with ubuntu logo and a brown bar below, and then freezes fully.. nothing more happens.. i tried with Safe Gfx mode too
[03:16] <nizo> ?
[03:16] <anon32> frogzoo, of course... that works great till Ubuntu refuses to release something... or till you need obscure apps
[03:16] <jmspeex> cpk2: ddcprobe doesn't even have the 1600x1200, which xorg is currently using!
[03:16] <tritonx> th: is it stuck on the mounting filesystem ?
[03:16] <frogzoo> anon32: then try your like with alien, but it's a last resort
[03:16] <anon32> yep
[03:16] <lupine_85_a> better is to build from source, usually
[03:16] <cpk2> jmspeex: would you mind pastebinning your xorg.conf?
[03:17] <th_> tritonx: i'm not sure where it's stuck, it's a graphics screen with the ubuntu logo and a brown bar below, (like a progress bar at 0%)
[03:17] <lupine_85_a> statically-linked binaries are safe
[03:17] <jmspeex> cpk2: url?
[03:17] <lupine_85_a> (almost always)
[03:17] <th_> there is nothing else on the screen
[03:17] <cpk2> !pstebi
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pstebi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <nizo> hey tritonx
[03:17] <cpk2> !pastebin
[03:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:18] <tritonx> th: cuz I had a problem with amd64 livedvd, I had to restart from windowsXP for it to start
[03:18] <tritonx> nizo: what ?
[03:18] <th_> tritonx, what do you mean "restart from windows XP"?
[03:18] <nizo> i cant install firestarter
[03:18] <th_> i tried rebooting several times and it always get to the same place and hangs
[03:18] <tritonx> boot XP and click restart, I know its not logical, but thats the way I debugged it
[03:19] <th_> hmm .. sounds weird
[03:19] <th_> i will try it
[03:19] <tritonx> th: yes it is
[03:19] <th_> brb ;)
[03:19] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[03:19] <tritonx> th:gl
[03:19] <jmspeex> cpk2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26734
[03:20] <Windkracht8> tuxtux bon giorno
[03:21] <tritonx> nizo: did you uncomment the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:21] <cpk2> jmspeex: /etc/X11/xorg.conf =P not the log hehe
[03:21] <jmspeex> cpk2: oops, sorry :-)
[03:22] <tritonx> nizo: if not sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # , not all only those that looks like the others
[03:22] <ubuntu> is ubuntu basead on debian?
[03:22] <anon32> ubuntu, yes
[03:22] <anon32> for someone named "ubuntu", you don't seem very knowegable
[03:22] <jmspeex> cpk2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26735
[03:22] <anon32> knowlegable*
[03:22] <th_> tritonx, I tried what you said but it didn't work ..
[03:22] <ubuntu> im downloading opera 9, it has .deb extension
[03:23] <tritonx> sudo apt-get update
[03:23] <tritonx> then try again
[03:23] <th_> I get "Booting the kernel" and then that gfx screen with "Ubuntu" brown logo and the brown progress bar below ,an d then nothing more happens
[03:23] <ubuntu> sudo pt-get update doesnt work for me, it always give me an error
[03:23] <th_> then i can press ctrl-alt-delete and it reboots..
[03:23] <ubuntu> could not find something
[03:23] <Samuli^> !sun-java5
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <lupine_85> th_: edit the kernel bootline to get rid of quiet splash
[03:23] <Samuli^> !java
[03:23] <tritonx> th: if its stuck it could be a bad cd, you have a amd64 I guess
[03:23] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:24] <Windkracht8> ubuntu try:sudo apt-get update
[03:24] <cpk2> jmspeex: it does seem like your horz sync and vert refresh are a little low, do you know your monitor model?
[03:24] <lupine_85> then boot from that and see what error message you get
[03:24] <th_> lupine_85, what's to write?
[03:24] <ubuntu> i misstyped it
[03:24] <lupine_85> ok... when it boots you get your menu of things to load up
[03:24] <lupine_85> press 'e'
[03:24] <ubuntu> sudo apt-get update doesnt work
[03:24] <Samuli^> !sun-java5-jdk
[03:24] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[03:24] <anon32> ubuntu, you on live CD?
[03:24] <ubuntu> it fails
[03:24] <th_> press "e"
[03:24] <ubuntu> yes
[03:24] <anon32> there we go...
[03:24] <anon32> INSTALL
[03:24] <lupine_85> then scroll down to the 'kernel' line, press 'e' again and delete the bit "quiet splash"
[03:24] <th_> in the menu with "Start (or install) ubuntu" etc.?
[03:25] <lupine_85> hit enter, then press "b"
[03:25] <th_> ah ok
[03:25] <ubuntu> ubuntu 5.1
[03:25] <th_> thanks lupine_85
[03:25] <ubuntu> no install
[03:25] <th_> will try that now
[03:25] <th_> brb
[03:25] <lupine_85> it's not a fix, just a way to get some error meaages ;)
[03:25] <jmspeex> cpk2: It's a laptop LCD, so hsync is a bit meaningless, isn't it?
[03:25] <jmspeex> Dell D820 to be more precise.
[03:25] <ubuntu> im trying to install torrent or a download manager because damnit, every package misses c++ or c libraries or gtk or whatever, when I try to install them I alaways end up with errors
[03:26] <ubuntu> i cant download any disrto by browser because, downloading by browser limits me to 6kbs
[03:26] <lupine_85> use wget
[03:26] <mnepton> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui
[03:26] <lupine_85> ubuntu has an ftp server as well, I think
[03:26] <anon32> ubuntu, um, ubuntu comes with bittorrent
[03:27] <Tampler> yes ubuntu comes with bittorrent even live CD
[03:27] <ubuntu> err...
[03:28] <ubuntu> nvm
[03:28] <anon32> ubuntu, yes... bittorrent (torrentname)
[03:28] <cpk2> jmspeex: hrmm yeah, wonder how different lcd is from crt
[03:29] <ubuntu> its so.... hair pulling to have a 2mbit ISP downloading ubuntu updates at 6KB/s
[03:29] <jimdaniels> Can someone be so kind and check my fstab? my ntfs partitions won't mount. i looked up the dev names in gparted. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26736/ thanks a lot
[03:30] <th_> hi again.. I tried removing the "quiet splash" from the command line (it was F6 and not E in my version).. but it still hangs. i took a snap of the screen where it hangs
[03:31] <frogzoo> ubuntu: wget (ftp) or torrent
[03:31] <Dr_willis> jimdaniels,  my fstab line --> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[03:31] <adik>  
[03:31] <LjL> !ru
[03:31] <adik>  
[03:31] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[03:31] <LjL> adik, could you type that message above in the Cyrillic alphabet please?
[03:32] <anon32> jimdaniels, use ntfs, not ntfs-3g
[03:32] <Xyphosura> I am searching for a replacement for the ati fglrx drivers: people advised me the open ati and radeon drivers, what are they and i dont seem to find a lot information  about them?
[03:32] <anon32> Xyphosura, they're named linux-restricted-modules-386/686
[03:33] <anon32> they're way more stable than the ATI ones, but significantly slower
[03:34] <Xyphosura> thanks: can i just install them from the repositories or does ubuntu already use them?
[03:34] <SV452> hi all
[03:34] <rulus> aloha
[03:34] <SV452> i have a problem - i installed ubuntu and all is well but i can't seem to boot it ... i use sata drives
[03:34] <SV452> i have to boot with the cd everytime
[03:34] <anon32> Xyphosura, they're included... search in synaptic for "linux-restricted-modules"
[03:34] <SV452> how can i make grub to boot
[03:35] <th_> So it still doesn't boot but now itis showing some messages ... can someone help look at the screen snap and see if they know what's wrong?
[03:35] <Xyphosura> and how do i activate them?
[03:35] <Perkabalo> Hi, I'm trying to get wmv streams to work in firefox but i only get a blank screen, I've got the win32codecs. Streams work only if opened manually with totem-xine  Pls Help ;)
[03:35] <anon32> Xyphosura, no idea
[03:35] <anon32> question: what is w32codecs... and why does Ubuntu not distribute them?
[03:35] <Xyphosura> can you explain "significantly slower" a bit more, can i play 3d games or not?
[03:36] <cpk2> whenever i try to do sudo dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc i get an error that it cant find libfam.la but when i try to apt-get libfam-dev it says i have a broken dependency, libfam0, but when i try to apt-get -f it it wants to uninstall all of my kde stuff
[03:36] <anon32> Xyphosura, yes... but if you're into serious gaming (in which case, you'd have Win32, not Linux) then you want the ATI drivers
[03:36] <jrib> Perkabalo: what plugin are you using?
[03:37] <SV452> so how do i make grub boot from the drive and not my cd ??????
[03:37] <Perkabalo> i'm not really sure?
[03:37] <Xyphosura> ati stopped supporting my ati9250 and they still contain bugs which make a particularly game crash
[03:37] <anon32> SV452, don't put anything in your disk drive?
[03:37] <tritonx> lol
[03:37] <jrib> Perkabalo: try typing 'about:plugins' in your url bar
[03:37] <Perkabalo> ok
[03:37] <th_> can some please help me out? ubuntu cd hangs during boot, i rebooted now without "quiet splash" and here is screenshot of where it hangs: http://tugd.com/x/ubuntu_amd64_livecd_hangs_during_boot.png
[03:38] <Xyphosura> ti stopped supporting my ati9250 and they still contain bugs which make a particularly game crash and therefore i am searching for a replacement
[03:38] <ubuntu> no
[03:38] <ubuntu> nononono
[03:38] <SV452> when i take my cd out of the drive and restart i get error bout inserting boot disk
[03:38] <ubuntu> ubuntu 5.1 was unable to open opera 9 deb package
[03:38] <Perkabalo> Uhm.. Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.16.2 and Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)
[03:38] <ubuntu> unsuported archive type??!?!
[03:39] <jrib> ubotu: tell ubuntu about opera
[03:40] <IndyBC> Two weeks left for Edgy Eft. I can't wait! :-)
[03:40] <jrib> Perkabalo: I prefer mplayer's plugin, but if you want totem, then try using totem-xine
[03:40] <Xyphosura> anon32: the restricted modules are already installed: synaptic says they contain support for fglrx noting else about ati radeon?
[03:41] <anon32> Xyphosura, radeon is included in that
[03:41] <ubuntu> im using the live cd, xchat and ff, and installing some packages. Sometimes, while clicking the windows and changing from one to another, ubuntu suddenly logs off and auto log in back
[03:41] <Perkabalo> jrib a totem-xine plugin for firefox? Cause i'm currently using totem-xine,
[03:41] <SV452> if i use cfdisk can i make a partition bootable ???
[03:41] <ubuntu> is this a crash?
[03:42] <jimdaniels> Dr_Willis: do you use ntfs or ntfs-3g
[03:42] <SV452> i am in cfdisk now and none of the partitions is bootable ... ??
[03:42] <jimdaniels> ?
[03:42] <stefg> SV452: cfdisk can set the bootflag, but will not automagically make it bottable
[03:42] <jrib> Perkabalo: totem-xine-firefox-plugin I think in dapper
[03:42] <Perkabalo> well.. im on edgy :)
[03:43] <jrib> Perkabalo: then you should ask in #ubuntu+1 :)
[03:43] <th_> I'm totally stuck, with ubuntu just hanging during boot, now I posted a screenshot with the messages here http://tugd.com/x/ubuntu_amd64_livecd_hangs_during_boot.png - could someone pls have a look who might be able to figure out  why it hangs?
[03:43] <Xyphosura> ok i am confused now, fglrx=proprietary driver of ati (this one contains bugs, and i want a replacement), open ati/radeon driver = different from fglrx?
[03:43] <killown> how I remove vmware in ubuntu?
[03:43] <Perkabalo> oh, hehe, sry
[03:43] <SV452> then why is it after installing that i can't boot unless i use the cd ??? there is no errors nothing - only thing diff from this pc and my others is that they have a sata drive
[03:44] <stefg> th_: try to add acpi=off to the boot-parameters and see if it changes something
[03:44] <magical_trevsky> does anyone know how to make df -h report an accurate value from a share mounted with sshfs?
[03:44] <th_> thanks stefg, I'll try it..
[03:44] <th_> brb
[03:44] <stefg> th_: err, make that 'acpi off' no '='
[03:45] <SV452> brb
[03:45] <tarelerulz> I have tried get mplayer use synaptic ,but I don't come up with anything beside kmplayer and it sucks
[03:45] <jrib> tarelerulz: enable multiverse
[03:45] <anon32> !repos
[03:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:45] <jimdaniels> this is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26736/ are the lines ok for ntfs 3g? ntfs hds wont mount!
[03:46] <anon32> it only takes on nuke to start a global war that'll destroy the earth
[03:46] <tarelerulz> How do you do that enable enable multiverse
[03:46] <Micksa> I have dapper on this inspiron 6000, and it's using up about 50% more power in normal use than windows
[03:46] <pcfan> Where can I get the knoppix x11 mouse theme for setting it on my ubuntu ?
[03:46] <jrib> tarelerulz: visit the pages ubotu just said
[03:46] <Micksa> I've checked everything; CPU is at min freq and mostly idle.
[03:46] <Micksa> or it appears to be.
[03:46] <magical_trevsky> jimdaniels, have you tried 'sudo mount -a'?
[03:46] <Micksa> does this problem sound familiar to anyone?
[03:46] <killown> kde 4 yet released?
[03:47] <anon32> killown, nope
[03:48] <anon32> question: what are w32codecs and why does Ubuntu not distribute them?
[03:48] <tarelerulz> I did the sudo apt-get update and I did update in repositorie in synaptic ,but they don't seem to get me mplayer just jmplayer
[03:48] <jrib> anon32: they are a bunch of window's dll's
[03:48] <anon32> jrib, ah
[03:48] <killown> anon32, kde 4 go to be interface very fast?
[03:48] <jrib> tarelerulz: post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link please
[03:48] <anon32> killown, supposedly
[03:48] <anon32> !grammar
[03:48] <SV452> hi all
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grammar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <brian98> anon32, language barrier!
[03:49] <SV452> it worked - i set in cfdisk my sda1 to the flag for bootable - and now i don't need cd anymore
[03:49] <Zaggynl> anon32, licence issues
[03:49] <fildo> !mutimedia
[03:49] <anon32> brian98, mm
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mutimedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <Zaggynl> !win32
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <SV452> so i can boot - yipee problem solved - :)
[03:51] <sarixe> how do i upgrade from kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 without reinstalling?
[03:51] <tarelerulz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26739/
[03:51] <jimdaniels> magical_trevsky: i typed it in. here is the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26740/
[03:52] <magical_trevsky> hmm
[03:52] <gnomefreak> sarixe: join #ubuntu+1 please
[03:52] <sarixe> k
[03:52] <sarixe> sorry
[03:52] <jimdaniels> magical_trevsky: any idea what that means? i created the mountpoint dirs...
[03:52] <jimdaniels> they definetly exist
[03:52] <anon32> where do I get w32codecs?
[03:53] <anon32> !w32codecs
[03:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:53] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[03:53] <jimdaniels> anon32: in the restricted formats guide is the link to a .deb
[03:53] <anon32> argh... same generic restrictedformats factoid
[03:53] <anon32> jimdaniels, yay... I guess..
[03:54] <anon32> can libffmpeg play any WM* files without the need for w32codecs?
[03:54] <magical_trevsky> jimdaniels, i'll pastebin you my fstab, because that has a working ntfs-3g mount
[03:54] <jimdaniels> ok thanks
[03:54] <killown> anyone know any game of pool for linux?
[03:54] <magical_trevsky> jimdaniels, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26743/
[03:55] <anon32> w32codecs are 14MB? wtf
[03:55] <magical_trevsky> on your ext3 drive, you haven
[03:55] <Weber> My OpenGL Direct Rendering doesnt work. I have done what I was told to do in the guide on wiki.ubuntu.com. Does anyone have a soloution to that ?
[03:55] <magical_trevsky> *you haven't specified a mount point
[03:55] <Micksa> anyone have any idea how much more power a pentium-M (1/6GHz, say) should consume when it's being pelted (say, raytracing) than when idle?
[03:56] <SV452> how do cedega work - i manage to install the game but i can't get it to run
[03:56] <magical_trevsky> jimdaniels, you have nothing mounting to / in yours, which isn't good.. I'm guessing you meant for it to be hda2?
[03:57] <Micksa> (1.6GHz even)
[03:57] <Xyphosura> when i use the opensource ati drivers will i be able to use compiz/beryl aiglx etc?
[03:58] <Micksa> bleagh.
[03:58] <Micksa> I'm trying out edgy
[03:58] <magical_trevsky> Xyphosura, if you mean the open source radeon drivers, then yep, I am at the moment :)
[03:59] <tarelerulz> I trying to get mplayer  I updated by Sudo apt-get update
[03:59] <jimdaniels> magical_trevsky: it seems to work
[03:59] <jimdaniels> my /
[03:59] <tarelerulz> and still just find kmlayer
[03:59] <kyja> maxwelcome maxime
[03:59] <anon32> tarelerulz, add the universe and multiverse repos
[03:59] <jrib> tarelerulz: you only have dapper-backports multiverse, you need dapper multiverse
[03:59] <jimdaniels> man the ntfs won't mount with your line either
[03:59] <jimdaniels> :-(
[03:59] <kyja> I hope someone can help you here maxime =] 
[04:00] <jimdaniels> i need my albums ^^
[04:00] <magical_trevsky> jimdaniels, are you sure you have the right devices in /dev?
[04:00] <anon32> jimdaniels, do it manually mount -t ntfs /dev/(devicename)
[04:00] <maxime> I search a french version for kopete
[04:00] <maxime> where can I find it ?
[04:00] <jimdaniels> yea i looked them up in gparted and checked if the files exist. they do
[04:00] <tarelerulz> really I just have that
[04:00] <Lattyware> I finally managed to get Azureus running without killing my machine, but the mimise to notification area fails.
[04:00] <Xyphosura> magical: the driver which you enable when you select it whit sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:00] <jimdaniels> ok anon32 i wil ltry
[04:00] <jimdaniels> thanks
[04:00] <tarelerulz> how do you add them then
[04:00] <th_> hi stefg I tried what you said with acpi=off.. and it did make a difference
[04:00] <Lattyware> Azureus just dissapears, and I have to restart it to get it to work again.
[04:01] <stefg> th_: so?
[04:01] <Xyphosura> anon32: you were saying i dont have graphics card? :-)
[04:01] <th_> now it gets much further but it shows lots of Irq error messages and doesn't find any of my usb devices
[04:01] <magical_trevsky> Xyphosura, does 'glxinfo | grep rendering' give you a yes?
[04:01] <anon32> Lattyware, that's a bug... it's running in the background
[04:01] <anon32> Xyphosura, no, I don't
[04:01] <th_> like mouse and keyboard ... :( and then it hangs with the x windows screen with just a mouse pointer in the middle, after couple a mninutes lioading
[04:01] <Xyphosura> anon32: ok
[04:01] <Lattyware> yes, I did ps x and verified that.
[04:01] <Lattyware> I have to kill it and restart it.
[04:01] <kyja> jimdaniels, Disk works great for mounting and unmounting volumes.
[04:01] <jrib> tarelerulz: 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and add "multiverse" to the end of every line that has universe, but no multiverse
[04:01] <magical_trevsky> jimdaniels, make sure you have something mounting at / in your fstab, because otherwise your system won't boot properly
[04:01] <stefg> th_: what hardware do you have there? Ancinet Bios?
[04:01] <Xyphosura> magical: atm yes because i still have the proprietary fglrx
[04:02] <ShackJack> Hi all... since i upgraded to edgy and new fglrx drivers (the stock ones), switching into text mode makes the screen green and garbled, and also unusable.... I've tried reinstalling the drivers, etc... to no avail... Is something I should change in my xorg.conf?
[04:02] <th_> its pretty new bios.. motherboard is Asus M2N32-SLI deluxe
[04:02] <th_> latest bios..
[04:02] <cpk2> Lattyware: what version of azureus are you using?
[04:02] <jrib> ShackJack: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[04:02] <anon32> ShackJack, the ATI drivers are buggy
[04:02] <magical_trevsky> Xyphosura, if you can get direct rendering from fglrx, then why would you want to use the radeon drivers?
[04:02] <stefg> I see... faulty acpi-table
[04:02] <Lattyware> cpk2: The latest package, 2.4 somthing
[04:02] <ShackJack> jrib - thanks already there - nobody home ;)
[04:02] <rvalles> No luck with WPA: Neither my new laptop's atheros nor my trusty zd1211 work
[04:02] <th_> stefg, what does that mean? ;)
[04:03] <rvalles> but they work on my gentoo box, just not on the laptop
[04:03] <kyja> is there a french localization for kopete anyone?
[04:03] <cpk2> Lattyware: you might want to try getting the azureus 2.5 jar
[04:03] <Lattyware> 2.4.0.2
[04:03] <anon32> rvalles, is it so hard to just plug into an ethernet jack?
[04:03] <stefg> th_: that you should try another kernel if possible
[04:03] <Xyphosura> magical: they contain a bug so i cant play a particularly game, and my card is no longer supported
[04:03] <jimdaniels> i accidently restarted my x with shift+backspace >:-(
[04:03] <ShackJack> jrib - and wasn't sure it's specifically edgy
[04:03] <cpk2> Lattyware: I was having problems with azureus until i switched to the 2.5 jar
[04:03] <jimdaniels> could you repeat what you said?
[04:03] <Lattyware> cpk2: Could you run me through that? Or a link or whatever?
[04:03] <jrib> ShackJack: it's ok, was just letting you know there was an edgy channel
[04:03] <SV452> question - i have an external drive and whenever i plug it in i get this error : mount: only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1
[04:03] <th_> stefg: is there another kernel on the ubuntu CD?
[04:03] <ShackJack> anon32 - thanks - yeah they sure are - wish I coulda got my Notebook with nvidia
[04:04] <ShackJack> jrib: NP
[04:04] <kyja> maxime, there are i65 users on #ubuntu-fr
[04:04] <kyja> 165
[04:04] <th_> bleh stefg
[04:04] <magical_trevsky> Xyphosura, ah, ok.. well, if your card is listed as compatible with the radeon driver (make sure you check), then yes, xgl/compiz/beryl etc should work fine
[04:04] <th_> there is a new bios it has "Fixed Linux compatibility issue" :)
[04:04] <stefg> th_: no, but available by apt-get. Can you get at least logged in on the console?
[04:04] <anon32> gah... say, is 2.5 the latest stable Ubuntu?
[04:04] <magical_trevsky> Xyphosura, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219336
[04:05] <th_> stefg: no but I will try the new bios when it says "Fixed Linux compatibility issue".. lol i must be blind for not having seen it
[04:05] <cpk2> Lattyware: the 2.5 jar is here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=84122
[04:05] <stefg> hehe
[04:05] <Xyphosura> magical: thanks
[04:05] <SV452> question - i have an external drive and whenever i plug it in i get this error : mount: only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1 - anybody ???????
[04:05] <jimdaniels> -de
[04:05] <Xyphosura> magical: is this the driver you are talking about? http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon
[04:06] <cpk2> Lattyware: once you get that back up /usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar and then move the 2.5 jar there
[04:06] <stefg> SV452: check if your user account is a member of the group 'plugdev'
[04:06] <Lattyware> ok, thanks
[04:06] <maxime> kyja: yeah, I'm on #ubuntu-fr too
[04:06] <magical_trevsky> Xyphosura, yep
[04:06] <Lattyware> Should I rename it to have the name of the origonal?
[04:06] <kyja> ok, hope someone can help you maxime
[04:06] <cpk2> Lattyware: rename the 2.5 jar to Azureus2.jar
[04:06] <Lattyware> ok, thanks for the help.
[04:07] <anon32> where can I get the 2.5 jar?
[04:07] <Rookie-> apt-get ?
[04:07] <anon32> Rookie-, NO
[04:07] <Xyphosura> magical: ok, and  i can just select them with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, is that easy?
[04:07] <maxime> I hope too
[04:07] <maxime> but ...
[04:07] <maxime> at this time, no one helps me !
[04:07] <kyja> :-(
[04:08] <th_> well stefg, new bios flashed, Im gonna reboot :) if it works I'll log in frmo the live cd
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> maxime, whats up
[04:08] <th_> thanks for the help :)
[04:08] <stefg> good luck!
[04:08] <magical_trevsky> Xyphosura, there's a little bit more to it than that, look at the tutorial i linked to.. but it should be easy
[04:08] <kyja> maxime, in most applications isnt there a menu that says trasolate?
[04:08] <CthulhuSaves> Can anyone suggest a good online walkthrough for installing Ubuntu as a second OS for a dual-boot system? I'm not experienced with Linux at all. I installed PC-BSD yesterday and am very happy with it (the install was amazingly easy), but need to use Ubuntu for some Linux-only software.
[04:08] <Xyphosura> magical: ok thanks!
[04:09] <cpk2> anon32: eh? you talking to me?
[04:09] <magical_trevsky> Xyphosura, I've never actually had to do that, because i've always used the radeon driver since install, rather than trying (then having to remove) fglrx
[04:09] <SV452> stefg: it is part of plufdev
[04:09] <kyja> maxime, under help menu, I think you can get and change localizations.
[04:09] <anon32> cpk2, yea... I guess
[04:09] <maxime> what instant messenger application can I find in french ?
[04:09] <stefg> !install
[04:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:09] <cpk2> anon32: the 2.5 jar is on sourceforge here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=84122
[04:09] <kyja> I myself don't know.
[04:09] <maxime> if Kopete is only in english, I can try some other apps
[04:09] <GigaClon> CthulhuSaves, just stick the CD in your drive and reboot the system
[04:10] <maxime> kyja: ok, thanks
[04:10] <maxime> I'll continue to search
[04:10] <anon32> cpk2, is it a development version or is it stable?
[04:10] <Paddy_EIRE> maxime, Im sure kopete must have a french language pack, otherwise try GAIM or aMSN..
[04:10] <kyja> maxime, there is gaim also is an instant mesanger if you cant find the localizations. I got to go now good luck.
[04:11] <maxime> kyja: ok, thanks so much
[04:11] <maxime> Paddy_EIRE: but with my ubuntu I can't install aMSN
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> maxime, why not?
[04:12] <cpk2> anon32: 2.5 is the latest release
[04:12] <cpk2> so yes its stable
[04:12] <CthulhuSaves> Thanks. :) I was spooked away from Linux year ago do to the install nightmare. So Ubuntu will "know what to do" as far as seeing the existing OS and adding itself to the bootloader ooptions? Will it be able to create it's own partition without harming existing ones?
[04:12] <hyby> hello i was wondering do i install XGL or AiGXL on a onboard intel 915GM videocard
[04:12] <maxime> because "aptitude search amsn" returns nothing !
[04:12] <anon32> yay?
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> maxime, did you try downloading and installing manually, maybe download the source package and compile it yourself
[04:13] <anon32> why is apt-get out of date so often?
[04:13] <maxime> Paddy_EIRE: maybe
[04:13] <SV452> i can mount it as root - but that doesn't help - why can a usb stick work but not my usb external drive ??
[04:13] <ubuntu> bang
[04:13] <ubuntu> ubuntu crashed again no
[04:13] <maxime> Paddy_EIRE: I didn't think about this
[04:13] <ubuntu> nonono
[04:13] <stefg> CthulhuSaves: don't worry
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> maxime, try "sudo apt-cache search amsn"
[04:13] <ubuntu> crashed while i was installing bit tornado-gui
[04:13] <maxime> Paddy_EIRE: I'm going to try now to install it from sources
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[04:14] <ubuntu> whats the command again to download and install bittornado gui?
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> good luck
[04:14] <mnepton> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui
[04:14] <ubuntu> uh?!?! thats the command im trying
[04:14] <ubuntu> but it says
[04:14] <peoro_> hi
[04:14] <ubuntu> package is not available
[04:14] <peoro_> i've just installed ubuntu on my new laptop :D
[04:15] <ubuntu> not available??
[04:15] <cpk2> !info bittornado-gui
[04:15] <ubotu> bittornado-gui: bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.13-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 232 kB
[04:15] <mnepton> ubuntu: enable the Universe and Multiverse repos in Synaptic
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu: try "sudo aptcache search bittornado" and look for the gui installer there
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> oops
[04:16] <mnepton> ubuntu: refresh the repo information, try again
[04:16] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> "sudo apt-cache search bittornado"
[04:16] <esher> hey
[04:16] <rysiek|pl> ok, do we have any bash programmers here? (dumb question, don't answer)
[04:16] <esher> where can i found the ssl-path or the socket ? in ubuntu ? thaks for advise
[04:16] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[04:16] <SV452> wont' the drive perms have anything to do with my fstab ??
[04:17] <phaedrus__> what is a good usb wireless adapter that werks out of the box with ubuntu?
[04:17] <phaedrus__> sorry network died when i last asked
[04:17] <SV452> how can i change it so anyone can mount the external drive ???
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> !compatibile
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compatibile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <peoro_> how can i add multiverse and universe repositories? if i go on setting->repositories->add and select universe and multiverse... well, nothing happens :F
[04:17] <rysiek|pl> the problem is: I need to find the numerical position of the newline character (the "\n") in a string in bash. expr index "$MY_STRING" "\n" does not work (finds me the \'s and n's)
[04:17] <th_> hey stefg, it worked :) im running in ubuntu livecd now
[04:18] <th_> it was just the stupid bios
[04:18] <ubuntu> hmmm
[04:18] <Paddy_EIRE> peoro_, did you try the #bash channel
[04:18] <stefg> th_:  sweet... and a proof that careful reading makes life easier :-)
[04:18] <peoro_> Paddy_EIRE ? O,o
[04:19] <th_> yeah hehe.. thing is i checked for bios couple of weeks ago so I thought I had the latest one
[04:19] <rysiek|pl> Paddy_EIRE: uhmmm... I suppose that was ment for me ;)
[04:19] <Paddy_EIRE> oops
[04:19] <Paddy_EIRE> still waking up
[04:19] <rysiek|pl> nop, just tell peoro_ about it ;)
[04:19] <hyby> sorry guys i was wondering if i could get a recommendation on my problem of AIGLX or XGL on a intel 915GM onboard vid card
[04:20] <stefg> !xgl
[04:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:20] <peoro_> :P
[04:20] <rysiek|pl> peoro_: did you do an update after adding the repos?
[04:20] <peoro_> yes
[04:20] <rysiek|pl> peoro_: and still nothing?
[04:20] <peoro_> but... if i add these repos, after close that window and reopen it...
[04:20] <rysiek|pl> hmmm
[04:20] <hyby> thanks...i have tried XGL but it lags...
[04:20] <peoro_> well, they're unmarked
[04:20] <tarelerulz> I installed mplayer my compile it myself and I just use synaptic to install skins
[04:20] <rysiek|pl> peoro_: which ubuntu version?
[04:20] <peoro_> nothing... it seems like i don't add them :F can't understand
[04:20] <tarelerulz> how doI recompile it so I have the gui
[04:21] <peoro_> 6.06lts, the last one
[04:21] <Paddy_EIRE> peoro_, have you not tried adding the repos based on this guide " How to add extra repositories" on this site http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[04:22] <ubuntu> hmmm
[04:22] <peoro_> i've used another manual... let's see
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> peoro_, it has never let me down yet
[04:22] <ubuntu> how do I configure the port for ubuntu built in bittorrent ?
[04:22] <ubuntu> there is no gui
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu: aint that automatically sorted
[04:23] <peoro_> no, i've tried only with synaptic... let's try editing that file by hand :)
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:23] <cpk2> hrmm if I make my own .deb package and install it apt-get wants to "upgrade" it right away. How do I stop it from doing this? or was the source I got actually an older version?
[04:23] <SV452> i want to make a cli command to copy files from one dir to another dir on a backup drive - but i want it to skip copying files if they already exist so it won't take so much time - anyone got any idea ???
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> SV452, this would be something I would love
[04:24] <Zargosa> I have a quick question someone may be able to answer..
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> SV452, let me know how you fair out with this
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask
[04:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:24] <Zargosa> My sound doesn't work on this acccount but on another user on the same system running ubuntu the sound works fine
[04:25] <jrib> Zargosa: is your user in the 'audio' group?
[04:25] <Zargosa> Dunno, let me check
[04:26] <Zargosa> no group named sound, unless its something thats not obvious from the list choices
[04:26] <jrib> SV452: I think rsync might do what you want, but i have never used it
[04:27] <Zargosa> hmm
[04:27] <ubuntu> no
[04:27] <jrib> Zargosa: just type 'groups' in a terminal
[04:27] <Paddy_EIRE> SV452, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=rsync&titlesearch=Titles
[04:28] <Zargosa> ok i see audio
[04:28] <ubuntu> bittornado was downloading an hour ago when ubutun desktop frozed
[04:28] <ubuntu> now I cant download it anymore, its unavailable
[04:28] <SV452> @ jrib : and that is why we got man pages - :D
[04:28] <SV452> i'll check it out Paddy_EIRE - thanx !!! ")
[04:28] <tarelerulz> I compiled mplayer myself and I did not config it with skin
[04:28] <SV452> :)
[04:29] <tarelerulz> What if I instlalled it with synaptic would the synaptic install over write my other one
[04:29] <Paddy_EIRE> SV452, actually the ubuntu forum seems to yield some interseting results for rsync
[04:29] <JosefK> tarelerulz: when you built mplayer, did you use --prefix=/usr/local ?
[04:29] <Paddy_EIRE> *interesting
[04:29] <eXistenZ> 20GB is enough for ubuntu?
[04:29] <tarelerulz> I can't say I will have to look
[04:29] <JosefK> tarelerulz: which mplayer - if that's anywhere other than /usr/bin/mplayer, apt won't overwrite it
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[04:30] <Languid> anyone here had luck getting the playstation emulator pSX to work in wine?
[04:30] <Hallonen> eXistenZ: yes
[04:30] <eXistenZ> Okay!
[04:31] <eXistenZ> Even if I had 600GB I would fill them ;p
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Languid, there is an emulator for playstation 1 in the repos
[04:31] <eXistenZ> my HDD is always full
[04:31] <tarelerulz> emulators good luck
[04:31] <phaedrus_> doh...my network keeos cutting out before i can get answer....sorry for the ? again
[04:31] <Languid> Paddy_EIRE, yes i know, but i prefer pSX :)
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[04:31] <james296> somehow I ended up losing my System Documentation, when I click System Documentation in the System menu, the only thing that shows in Yelp is About Ubuntu...
[04:31] <phaedrus_> what is an out of the box usb wireless adapter to buy?
[04:31] <james296> how do I get that back?
[04:32] <james296> all I did was update the system and I did nothing that had to do w/ Yelp
[04:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Languid, I think this will be difficult to do
[04:32] <ubuntu> fu
[04:32] <Languid> Paddy_EIRE, why do you say that?
[04:32] <ubuntu> fu**
[04:33] <Hallonen> phaedrus_: any nic using the realtec chip should work fine
[04:33] <james296> well?
[04:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Languid, for a start the emu you are using is written to emulate ps1 on win then you run that through wine, I think you are goin to missing dll hell
[04:33] <Paddy_EIRE> imo
[04:33] <Languid> Paddy_EIRE, actually, from winehq it looks like all i need is d3d9_26.dll
[04:34] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one :)
[04:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Languid, that "d3d9_26.dll" is not on http://www.dll-files.com/ gonna have to look elsewhere
[04:36] <Languid> Paddy_EIRE, yea... just checked there.. :\
[04:36] <SV452> rsync seems to be a devil
[04:37] <Hallonen> Paddy_EIRE: the "d3d9_26.dll" is a directX driver file..
[04:37] <kristjin> How do I gkedit my fstab file?
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Hallonen, its for Languid hes trying to install a windows psx emulator through wine
[04:38] <Hallonen> Paddy_EIRE: ok..
[04:38] <jrib> kristjin: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> kristjin, try "gksudo gedit etc/fstab"
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:38] <kristjin> Thank you.
[04:39] <NetVamp> Hi, I have quick question, I downloaded the iso file for the ubuntu server and burned it as an image with Nero, but my PC can't seem to boot from it I get a "Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM: None ..." and than it asks me to insert a system disk and restart
[04:40] <Paddy_EIRE> has anyone seen how many ideas that "Vista" has stolen from Linux and Mac
[04:40] <stefg> NetVamp: CD seems broken... try to reburn
[04:40] <Samuli^> Paddy_EIRE, no :)
[04:40] <Paddy_EIRE> dont they have brains of there own.....kinda pathetic
[04:41] <Samuli^> Paddy_EIRE, it's not always so easy to say who stole from who.
[04:41] <kristjin> Okay, so when I mount an ntfs volume into a media folder, it's going to show up on my desktop with a hard drive icon, and there's nothing I can do about that, si?
[04:41] <Paddy_EIRE> just read any vista preview and its there in plain english
[04:41] <jasper`> stefg, will a CD drive always be bootable regardless of its IDE placement (say 2nd IDE channel as slave)?
[04:41] <Fke> can i  format my flash drive as ext3 and run nix on it? is it possible?
[04:41] <Samuli^> Paddy_EIRE, are you to say that there's nothing 'loaned' from windows in linux for example?
[04:42] <stefg> jasper`: not always, but in 99% of all cases
[04:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Samuli^, yeah, although Windows was stolen from Xerox originally so the os it self is stolen
[04:42] <jasper`> Samuli^, great ideas cannot be owned. Only in the manufactured world of patents, which is another state-sponsored money making scam.
[04:42] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[04:42] <Samuli^> Paddy_EIRE, it wasn't stolen but bought. There's a difference.
[04:43] <kristjin> Hmmm... seems the rename option is greyed out as well.
[04:43] <kristjin> Damn..
[04:43] <juliux> hi
[04:43] <Paddy_EIRE> err, "great artists dont imitate, they steal" bill said it himself when asked...why they got a pirate flag outside HQ and all
[04:43] <tarelerulz> Thanks you all for gettting so I could use synaptic to install mplayer
[04:43] <kristjin> So is there any way to rename the drive as it sits on my desktop?
[04:43] <kristjin> And is there any way to change the icon?
[04:43] <kristjin> Those are my first two questions.
[04:44] <NetVamp> @stefg ok, will try that
[04:44] <kristjin> The next thing is probably much more difficult.
[04:44] <juliux> we want to use ubotu also in a german ubuntu channel, can somebody help me?
[04:44] <boink> sure
[04:44] <rambo3> ask seveas
[04:44] <boink> !ask
[04:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:44] <juliux> rambo3, thanks
[04:45] <BiSk-8> hello, i installed vmware, but how do i get it to work? i have no idea where to start,  le me know
[04:45] <BiSk-8> let*
[04:45] <MissLady> I use IRC gaim and i need to know why my gaim don't see people gone out when they leave a channel  sometime so when  they'll come in i'll see their nick 2 or more times in nicklist ... anyone can help me pl ?
[04:46] <kristjin> Scratch that.
[04:47] <kristjin> Does anyone have a suggestion from the *plethora* of options availble, for a music folder?
[04:47] <kristjin> Sometimes, too many options, is just too many.
[04:47] <kristjin> I love control, but damn.
[04:48] <Paddy_EIRE> kristjin,  /opt/my_music if you have other users on same comp and you want them to have access....this works nicely
[04:49] <NetVamp> ok I just burned a new cd with the image and still Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM: None ... DISK Boot Failure, Insert System Disk and press enter
[04:49] <NetVamp> maybe some Bios settings? But its already set to boot from CD, don't know what else I could change on the settings to make it work
[04:49] <kristjin> Oh, ALSO, can you tell me where is the BEST place to post suggestions for adding a feature to a dialog box in a portion of ubuntu?
[04:49] <dabaR> NetVamp: did you md5sum the image?
[04:50] <Paddy_EIRE> NetVamp, have you got multiple cd/dvd drives
[04:50] <kristjin> There is a particular function I use fairly regularly that does not work well, and I keep thinking to myself, "Someone should add X functionality" and I don't know where to suggest that.
[04:50] <NetVamp> @Dabar no I didn't, will do this in a few minuts @Paddy, no only one
[04:50] <dabaR> kristjin: the bug list for the package the dialog box is ran by.
[04:50] <Paddy_EIRE> NetVamp, sometimes it will only work on a specific one
[04:50] <kristjin> How would I find that?
[04:50] <THX-1138> NetVamp: I wonder if it wasn't saved to disk as a file insted of a file structure.
[04:51] <kristjin> I assume that's particular to the program.] 
[04:51] <dabaR> kristjin: which program makes the dialog box appear?
[04:51] <kristjin> Right.
[04:51] <Tams> Hey
[04:51] <Tams> On boot I get this: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[04:51] <Tams> This is after an accidental poweroff. Recovery mode doesn't work. What could be the solution?
[04:52] <BiSk-8> so can any1 help me with vmware?
[04:52] <kristjin> Alright, let me see if it is in one or another - I haven't run into it for about a week.  It's somewhat obscure.  It's sort of buried, which I imagine is why no one has found it and fixed it yet.
[04:52] <Zaggynl> Request: another tab in the System Monitor that shows read/writes per application
[04:52] <kristjin> BRB
[04:53] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone think that the right click open terminal entry should be there by default
[04:53] <Daniel-56> How do i make a netgare modem modle dg814 a bridge
[04:53] <dabaR> Tams: run a live boot, and see if you can mount the disk, then check your /boot/grub/menu.lst for a line that has (0,0) instead of hd(0,0). Just a wild shot, though.
[04:54] <darnell> anyone here using edgy?
[04:54] <SeanTater> Is there a way to use an onboard video card instead on a pci one without removing the pci one?
[04:54] <jrib> !edgy
[04:54] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:54] <tritonx> darnell: I do
[04:54] <SeanTater>  /on/of
[04:54] <THX-1138> Tams - i got that error once by editing my grub menu by hand - bad sysntax - mispelled the path
[04:54] <Tams> dabaR: thanks, but live boot is no option this box cannot boot from anything but floppies and hdds
[04:54] <darnell> tritonx, when i do a dist-upgrade i get this....
[04:55] <kristjin> Okay, there it is.
[04:55] <dabaR> SeanTater: did you try turning it off in the bios?
[04:55] <kristjin> It's actually the built in Ubuntu file browser.
[04:55] <darnell>  smeg: Depends: python2.4-gtk2 (>= 2.6) but it is not installable
[04:55] <darnell>         Depends: python2.4-libxml2 (>= 2.6.17) but it is not installable
[04:55] <darnell>         Depends: python2.4-glade2 (>= 2.6) but it is not installable
[04:55] <darnell>   libvte4: Depends: libvte-common (= 1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1) but 1:0.14.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[04:55] <darnell>   foomatic-filters-ppds: Depends: hplip-ppds but it is not installable
[04:55] <darnell>   upstart: Conflicts: sysvinit but 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu16 is to be installed.
[04:55] <darnell> Resolving dependencies...
[04:55] <dabaR> ...
[04:55] <SeanTater> dabaR: no -- but I'll try that
[04:55] <SeanTater> dabaR: thanks!
[04:55] <jrib> darnell: use a pastebin please
[04:55] <kristjin> It doesn't allow me to switch to a thumbnail view of files when attempting to insert files in an email on gmail.
[04:56] <kristjin> Which, if I am inserting graphics, is a pain in the butt.
[04:56] <dabaR> Tams: get a debian rescue floppy, they may have something like that, or google for a rescue linux floppy
[04:56] <jrib> darnell: edgy questions should be in #ubuntu+1 by the way
[04:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !pastebin > darnell
[04:56] <nimbo> does ubuntu regulate my notebooks fans automatically?
[04:56] <kristjin> Because I have to go out of my browser, go to the folder the graphics files are in, figure out which one I need, go back to the browser, go to the dialog box, and select by file name.
[04:57] <Daniel-56> Hey guys this is me linuxboy2005..my pops needs to find out how to make a netgare modem  dg814 a briodge
[04:57] <Weber> hvad er det nu jeg skal skrive for at genstarte mit X ?
[04:57] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, can u remember what i need to install to get the open terminal option in my right click menu??? i think it was nautilus-terminal or something
[04:57] <rambo3> !no
[04:57] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[04:57] <Samuli^> !beryl
[04:57] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[04:57] <Daniel-56> ubotu, netgare
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netgare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: apt-cache search -n nautilus terminal
[04:58] <dabaR> kristjin: the file browser is called nautilus.
[04:58] <Daniel-56> ubotu, xine
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, whats the "-n" for
[04:58] <kristjin> dabaR:  Thanks...
[04:58] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: restricts to the name only
[04:58] <Weber> Atm my OpenGL Direct Rendering doesnt work, but my 3D acceleration does, what shall I do ?
[04:58] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[04:58] <Daniel-56> ubotu, nvidia
[04:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:58] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[04:59] <dabaR> kristjin: you could also go the source dir with files, select the files, copy, go to the destination dir and paste.
[04:59] <Daniel-56> netgare modem
[04:59] <Daniel-56> ubotu, netgare modem
[04:59] <kristjin> dabaR: that doesn't work, because the destination directory is a web browser gmail email.
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netgare modem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <dabaR> Daniel-56: what do you mean a bridge?
[04:59] <THX-1138> weber - Do you have an nvidia ard?
[05:00] <Weber> THX-1138, yes.
[05:00] <dabaR> !nautilus-open-terminal
[05:00] <THX-1138> Daniel - is that a DSL modem?
[05:00] <ubotu> nautilus-open-terminal: open terminal in any folder from Nautilus. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 480 kB
[05:00] <kristjin> What I'm trying to do is select files for uploading into an email via my web browser, so I have to select them explicitly through the java email clent, which makes a system call to the nautilus dialog box, which does not allow me to view thumbnails.
[05:01] <kristjin> And gomen, if I am misusing phrases, here... just trying to ease the flow of conversation.
[05:01] <Daniel-56> dabaR, change the modem gateway to just a bridge modem
[05:01] <THX-1138> Weber - under you video card  device section add     option  "RenderAccel" "true"    (after selecting nvidia not nv of course)
[05:01] <Weber> THX-1138, in my xorg-conf ?
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, do you not think it should be there by default, the right click Open Terminal as there is no reason why not
[05:02] <THX-1138> Weber - yes.
[05:02] <Weber> THX-1138, just a sec.
[05:02] <dabaR> kristjin: install apache, chown -R kristjin:kristijn /var/www, then copy the files there always, and send links to the pic dirs to your friends. But you have to have the comp. on always then.
[05:02] <NetVamp> The MD5sum is correct, anything else that could go wrong?
[05:02] <Zeqfreed> hey guys
[05:02] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: personally, no i don't think it should be there.  1) users shouldn't need a terminal (though I'll admit this isn't always true) 2) it's a universe package so it can't be default
[05:03] <THX-1138> Weber - if you decide later to enable dual displays or tv-out install nvidia-xconfig
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, not a cli fan huh
[05:03] <Zaggynl> Anyone in here able to compile and use glsof?
[05:03] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: not for new users, no
[05:03] <Weber> THX-1138, I have already installed nvidia-xonfig
[05:03] <kristjin> Well, that's an idea.  But I honestly just want to be able to send an email with a graphics file in it, and to be able to do so without having to find the file by name first...
[05:04] <dabaR> NetVamp: ya, is your CD bad? Did you try another one did you say?
[05:04] <Wheelybin> !video editing
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video editing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <Wheelybin> !smb
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <kristjin> I just thought perhaps there was some place that I could suggest adding thumbnail view to the dialog box.
[05:04] <Wheelybin> !samba
[05:04] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:04] <kristjin> Since it does not appear to be availble.
[05:04] <Zeqfreed> does anyone here use opendchub?
[05:04] <NetVamp> @dabar yes I tried it twice
[05:05] <Wheelybin> Alright, can anyone help me? I'm looking for a video editing application that would allow me to cut and copy a segment from a large film
[05:05] <kristjin> Though that is a very creative solution for my needs, dabaR...
[05:05] <dabaR> Wheelybin: you can talk to ubuntu in private, did you know?
[05:05] <jrib> kristjin: maybe you can file a bug.  I know there is probably one filed somewhere but I can't find it
[05:05] <NetVamp> I'm pretty sure it could be that stupid PC, already troubled me all day
[05:05] <dabaR> kristjin: ya, you can. launchpad is where you file bugs.
[05:05] <dabaR> .net
[05:05] <kristjin> I thought so.
[05:05] <lupine_85> Wheelybin: avidemux does that
[05:05] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, that would be the point, new users would get used to this much quicker than any other mouse pump driven mechanic....maybe you miss the main selling point on using Linux in the first place
[05:05] <kristjin> I have already registered there, but I haven't yet figured out how to do it.
[05:05] <dabaR> !kino
[05:05] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.80-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 1071 kB, installed size 3616 kB
[05:05] <kristjin> Maybe I'm just not that bright...
[05:05] <Wheelybin> dabaR yeah, I know, but I havent configured xchat to use online lists yet. Thanyou Lupine_85 !
[05:05] <Weber> THX-1138, Im not quit sure wich device section you are talking about? Can you please tell me what is supposed to on the first line of that section ?
[05:06] <ubuntu> im using the live CD, how can I download and save something in the HD?
[05:06] <dabaR> kristjin: Ill get you a link
[05:06] <SeanTater> dabaR: No luck. My BIOS has no setting for turning on or off the onboard Composite. VGA is the only one available, which is set the way I needed it..
[05:06] <THX-1138> 'Weber - sure. give me a minute to post my xorg file
[05:06] <SeanTater> dabaR: other ideas?
[05:06] <ianmacgregor> ubuntu: make a mountpoint, mount the hd device, download :)
[05:06] <kristjin> thanks!
[05:06] <Weber> THX-1138, ok. Thanks
[05:07] <ubuntu> mountpoint?
[05:07] <dabaR> SeanTater: this is for a sound card, right? You want the PCI card to not be used, right?
[05:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !mount
[05:07] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:07] <NetVamp> Mhh another though, does the CDrom have to be jumpered as master to be able to boot from it?
[05:07] <SeanTater> dabaR: no, a video card
[05:07] <ianmacgregor> Paddy_EIRE: Thank you :)
[05:07] <Paddy_EIRE> np :)
[05:07] <NetVamp> because right now its jumpered as slave
[05:07] <SeanTater> dabaR: the onboard one comes with composite, not the pci one
[05:07] <dabaR> NetVamp: try
[05:08] <SeanTater> dabaR: so I'm trying to get composite in the onboard one to work
[05:08] <XxTwitchxX> Have they come out with the new kernel that allows you to make love to it yet?
[05:08] <NetVamp> will do, before I do nothing ;)
[05:08] <dabaR> SeanTater: composite video or audio?
[05:08] <SeanTater> dabaR: only video
[05:08] <SeanTater> dabaR: composite audio is not available on my computer
[05:09] <dabaR> Daniel-56: isn't that going to be a setting at http://192.168.0.1 somewhere?
[05:09] <THX-1138> !paste
[05:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:09] <ianmacgregor> ubuntu: Something like:  sudo mkdir /mnt/mydisk && sudo mount /dev/<?> /mnt/mydusk (where <?> is the device tomount
[05:09] <dabaR> SeanTater: composite is video, and I read you asked about a audio card...
[05:09] <Yggdrasil_> is there a way to patch a microphone jack into xmms.. im trying to use it to create a light show type backdrop with xmms' visualzation but iwant it to move to the input
[05:10] <SeanTater> dabaR: If I did, I apologize. I meant video. (It says 'TV out' on a bright yellow (aka: video) slot, but there is no audio plugs (red and white))
[05:11] <THX-1138> Weber  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26753/
[05:11] <Daniel-56> dabaR, Thanks
[05:11] <Weber> Thx
[05:11] <dabaR> kristjin: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=nautilus top left, report a bug
[05:11] <dabaR> kristjin: that is after you log in.
[05:12] <dabaR> kristjin: you gotta know how to explain what you want.
[05:12] <Orbit45244> I'm having problems with rsync in ubuntu.
[05:12] <dabaR> kristjin: if you want an intro, read this: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[05:13] <SeanTater> Orbit45244: what problems
[05:13] <Orbit45244> I've started an rsync server (I've used sudo)
[05:13] <SeanTater> Orbit45244: I use rsync + ssh, and I find it easy
[05:13] <Orbit45244> and I can connect to it fine in Ubuntu
[05:14] <SeanTater> Orbit45244: okay
[05:14] <Paddy_EIRE> If anyone is interested this will add "Open Terminal" to your right click menu "sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal" you will also be able to do in folders to have the terminal open in the exact folder.....you will need the "Universe" repo enabled. :)
[05:14] <Orbit45244> but in Windows, It won't connect.
[05:14] <THX-1138> Orbit45244 - Can i ask if using tar to backup your system and excluding /dev is rsync normally a better idea?
[05:14] <tomh-> anyone here knows software to make images of your windows paratition under ubuntu?
[05:14] <SeanTater> Orbit45244: isn;t rsync a unix program?
[05:14] <ianmacgregor> Paddy_EIRE: nautilus scripts are good too :)
[05:14] <dabaR> Paddy_EIRE: I told ubotu to say that in the channel, too. I guess you missed it.
[05:14] <ianmacgregor> tomh-: Check out partimage
[05:14] <tomh-> thanks
[05:14] <Orbit45244> now what's really wierd is a way old version of rsync connect fine, but the newer version's don't
[05:14] <tomh-> its in the package list?
[05:14] <ianmacgregor> !info partimage
[05:14] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-14 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 936 kB
[05:14] <Paddy_EIRE> ianmacgregor, im still learning there too
[05:15] <SeanTater> Orbit45244: maybe the rsync version in windows is too new for the one in ubuntu
[05:15] <Orbit45244> SeanTater: I used Cygwin to compile Rsync for Windows.
[05:15] <kristjin> Thanks, dabaR.
[05:15] <Paddy_EIRE> dabaR, could you do it again so I can book mark an official page
[05:15] <Orbit45244> it's the same version......
[05:15] <SeanTater> Orbit45244: okay, I know very little about cygwin, sorry
[05:15] <kristjin> I had read that a long time ago...
[05:15] <kristjin> Or something like it.
[05:15] <SeanTater> Orbit45244: odd --
[05:15] <kristjin> Have become lax on a few of those points.
[05:15] <Weber> THX-1138, shall I restart my X ?
[05:16] <kristjin> *smacks self on the wrist*
[05:16] <dabaR> !nautilus-open-terminal > Paddy_EIRE
[05:16] <tomh-> ianmacgregor: whats the method to add it to the app manager?
[05:16] <tomh-> its not in the list
[05:16] <Yggdrasil_> is there any way to make xmms play from my microphone jack ?
[05:16] <hali> hi, is there any reason /dev/disk/by-label/ is not updated after i create a new fs with a label? do i need do some fs scan?
[05:16] <THX-1138> partimage gave me trouble with knoppix. - will i have trouble with it in ubuntu? - does it need special setup? directory exclusions?
[05:16] <ianmacgregor> tomh-: You mean synaptic?
[05:16] <SeanTater> Orbit45244: but I don't know that much about the rsync daemon or cygwin, sorry
[05:16] <Orbit45244> I've disabled the firewall with Firestarter
[05:17] <tomh-> i clicked add/remove applications
[05:17] <tomh-> and typed in partimage
[05:17] <Orbit45244> so I don't think the firewall is the problem
[05:17] <kristjin> I think sometimes I just automatically ask someone for an answer because I give people answers to their questions all day long, so it's second nature to me to just go somehwere there are people answering questions and ask my own when I have one.
[05:17] <THX-1138> Weber - did you delete anything under you video card description? (crosses fingers and hopes the answer will be no)
[05:17] <Weber> No
[05:17] <ianmacgregor> tomh-: You'll need to enable the universe repo and then install partimage
[05:17] <Weber> I did not delete anything
[05:17] <Weber> BUT
[05:17] <tomh-> how do i do that?
[05:17] <Weber> I have just tested the OpenGl Direct Rendering, it fails S
[05:17] <Weber> :S
[05:18] <ianmacgregor> !repos > tomh-
[05:18] <thompa> i cant seem to mount sda1, /dev/sda1       /media/SATA     ext3     user,rw,noauto,. if i try to move something to folder i get permission denied?
[05:18] <Weber> Shall I paste my xorg.conf ?
[05:18] <Orbit45244> and I had it working before.....
[05:18] <ianmacgregor> thompa: Check the permissions of /media/SATA
[05:18] <thompa> what am a missing here, I think my fstab is ok?
[05:18] <THX-1138> Weber -I don't why that would happen. - adding option "RenderAcccel" "true" wouldn't do that
[05:18] <Orbit45244> so I have no idea of whats wrong
[05:19] <THX-1138> Weber -sure why not.
[05:19] <thompa> ianmacgregor: owner is root
[05:19] <dabaR> thompa: try changing user to users
[05:19] <thompa> dabaR: ok
[05:19] <Weber> THX-1138, ok. Just a sec.
[05:19] <ianmacgregor> thompa: Ok, then you can add files using sudo cp or you can change perms of that dir and add files as user
[05:20] <tomh-> ok trying to add it
[05:20] <dabaR> ianmacgregor: you cant really change the perms like that in my experience
[05:20] <faceface> how to use apt to find a specific file?
[05:20] <NetVamp> damn, If I didn't know better I would say today is friday the 13th, my PSU seems to knocked itself out with the last shutdown
[05:20] <cpk2> faceface: apt-cache search
[05:20] <peter77> will XGL run on my ATI Radeon IGP 345M?
[05:20] <dabaR> faceface: sudo aptitude install apt-file; apt-file search <file>
[05:20] <faceface> apt-cache search aclocal ... dosn't seem to work
[05:20] <thompa> ianmacgregor: how do i change permissions to it?
[05:21] <peter77> I've installed it but it doesn't work :-(
[05:21] <rpedro> how do I add a new encoding profile for gstreamer-0.10, for use with Gnome Sound Recorder? I'm trying to use gconf-editor, or editing the XML directly, but I can't find the right file...
[05:21] <faceface> apt-file search OK
[05:21] <birdfish> Hey guys, I was just wondering what the . in front of a file name did, other than make it invisible without the ls -a tag?
[05:21] <faceface> apt-file - no such file or dir
[05:21] <ianmacgregor> thompa: sudo chown -R <user>:<group> /media/SATA
[05:21] <faceface> command not found I mean
[05:21] <dabaR> birdfish: nothing
[05:21] <thompa> dabaR: i changed user to users, do i have to restart or just mount
[05:21] <phantom> prosze piszcie po polsku
[05:21] <dabaR> faceface: There was an install command before that.
[05:22] <cpk2> faceface: apt-cache search aclocal gave me results...
[05:22] <faceface> apt-cache search searches description, not files .
[05:22] <birdfish> dabaR: Okay, cool.  Thanks =)
[05:22] <thompa> ianmacgregor: ok
[05:22] <faceface> dabaR OK
[05:22] <dabaR> thompa: I think sudo mount -a
[05:22] <phantom> ludzie po polsku nie bo angielsku
[05:22] <Urubuntu> finally
[05:22] <dabaR> !pl
[05:22] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:22] <ianmacgregor> thompa: You rarely have to reboot for much of anything short of loading a new kernel
[05:22] <thompa> i did both those before maybe now it works
[05:22] <birdfish> dabaR: So is there any real reason to utilize it?
[05:22] <znull>  is there a way to monitor the hardware status  motherboard and scsi raid card monitoring
[05:22] <dabaR> birdfish: ya, if you do not care about seeing a file when you ls, use that.
[05:22] <znull> ?
[05:22] <phantom> adres tej stronkji nie dziala
[05:23] <faceface> OK, installing apt-files :)
[05:23] <Weber> THX-1138, http://pastebin.ca/202486
, I don't think the results of apt-cache search alocal are correct
[05:23] <THX-1138> Weber - ok.
[05:24] <dabaR> faceface: the package is called apt-file
[05:24] <faceface> dabaR, apt-file search alocal ... no results
[05:24] <Wheelybin> Is there a website/tutorial on Avidemux? I copied a selection of video, but there's no option for new. I want to make a blank file in order that I can place the copied data.
[05:25] <dabaR> faceface: does not exist in dapper
[05:25] <faceface> hrm... apt-cache search alocal is now not reporting results
[05:25] <cpk2> faceface: i thought you said aclocal not alocal
[05:25] <faceface> heheh - I prolly did
[05:25] <ianmacgregor> faceface: It's aclocal
[05:25] <faceface> thanks all - seems apt-cache search was right all along
[05:25] <dorto> when i run the command "gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"" i am getting the error "Could not find the upgrade application in the archive, exiting"
[05:26] <faceface> libguile-dev ... but a bit unexpected for me
[05:26] <anacaona> hello hello
[05:26] <faceface> ianmacgregor, does it sound right to you
[05:26] <anacaona> i'm having problems upgrading from breezy to dapper
[05:26] <anacaona> apt-get dist-upgrade keeps seg faulting or quitting with errors
[05:26] <anacaona> and now x is broken
[05:26] <ianmacgregor> faceface: aclocal is correct
[05:26] <anacaona> how do i upgrade from an official dapper install cd?
[05:27] <faceface> ianmacgregor, which package provides that bin?
[05:27] <ianmacgregor> faceface: Not sure, try apt-cache search aclocal
[05:27] <thompa> ianmacgregor:  i cant find the users group with chmod
[05:27] <yggdrasil> is there any way to make xmms play from my microphone jack ?
[05:28] <dabaR> !upgrade
[05:28] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:29] <ianmacgregor> thompa: you can just use yourusername:yourusername since there is already a group set up for you
[05:29] <faceface> ./autogen.sh: line 36: aclocal: command not found
[05:29] <faceface> don't know where it is
[05:29] <ianmacgregor> faceface: are you compiling an app?
[05:29] <Paddy_EIRE> as much as I cant stand it is there a "bEbo" channel got to skin a couple of ppls pages
[05:29] <faceface> apt-cache search aclocal returns libguile, but installing that has no effect
[05:29] <faceface> ianmacgregor, yes
[05:30] <ianmacgregor> faceface: Did you install build-essential ?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> look at the readme and install files for packages you need
[05:30] <thompa> ianmacgregor: hey that just worked, though the 250G drive syas its only 132G
[05:30] <faceface> ianmacgregor, build-essential is already the newest version.
[05:30] <Samuli^> !xgl
[05:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:30] <dabaR> faceface: install automake1.9
[05:31] <thompa> ianmacgregor: maybe i will reformat it, its a storage drive, gparted was not working too well
[05:32] <thompa> ianmacgregor: gparted says its ext3 323G, but gnome file manager says 132G
[05:32] <THX-1138> Weber - http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/202496  - amount of video ram? fbdev? monitor under video card description?
[05:32] <faceface> dabaR, worked, but how could I know that was the answer without asking you?
[05:32] <thompa> ianmacgregor: * 232G
[05:32] <dabaR> faceface: I told you.
[05:32] <ianmacgregor> thompa: I don't know much about gparted :(
[05:32] <milan> hello, I installed Compiz on KDE to install the packages compiz and compiz-kde but when i select the session xgl it returns to the boot screen and crashes
[05:33] <dabaR> faceface: apt-file search aclocal finds that as one of the packages here.
[05:33] <thompa> ianmacgregor: is it ok to use jfs
[05:33] <THX-1138> Weber - the standsrd sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - might be best
[05:33] <Weber> ok
[05:33] <tk> milan
[05:33] <Weber> I will try
[05:33] <PingunZ> I've got a 17" monitor, 1280*1024 @ 60 hz .. What is my vertical and horizontal sync range ?
[05:33] <thompa> ianmacgregor: thanks for getting my permissions fixed anyway
[05:33] <Weber> THX-1138, I will write to you when im done
[05:33] <tk> milan: there is a nice tutorial on installing Beryl+XGL (the new name for compiz...) worked great for me
[05:33] <dabaR> thompa: and users did not do it for you in fstab?
[05:33] <ianmacgregor> thompa: You're welcome :)
[05:34] <THX-1138> Weber - Ok.
[05:34] <dabaR> PingunZ: it will depend on the make and model of the monitor.
[05:34] <Gbrlz> Ol
[05:34] <dabaR> !es
[05:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:34] <PingunZ> dabaR: LCD
[05:34] <faceface> this is a common problem, now I need the bin 'sdl-config' how to specifically ... oh wait...
[05:34] <milan> tk: this one, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268149
[05:34] <milan> ?
[05:34] <thompa> dabaR: nope, i wish i ciould see the groups in the user and group utility
[05:34] <dabaR> PingunZ: the letters and numbers on the monitor rame
[05:34] <thompa> im going back to kde
[05:34] <faceface> nope, apt-files search sdl-config didn't return anything
[05:34] <THX-1138> PingunZ: I always double check any settings added automatically by checking the manufacurers site.
[05:34] <dabaR> thompa: you should be able to. there is a option checkbox or something to show all users
[05:35] <dabaR> and groups
[05:35] <faceface> how to find specific files from apt
[05:35] <dabaR> faceface: I told you. apt-file search
[05:35] <Weber> THX-1138, so when it ask me about my amount of memory, then I shall just write 128 ? Even thoug that I can leave it blank as it says ?
[05:35] <faceface> dabaR, I told you, it didn't return anything
[05:35] <PingunZ> THX-1138: Do I need to look up my monitor ? I don't know its sn :)
[05:35] <faceface> apt-file search sdl-config
[05:35] <thompa> dabaR: what the point of "users and groups" in admin
[05:35] <richie_> Hello, i recently installed the latest version of ubuntu linux, I was just wondering, is there anyway i can access my second hard drive from it? it has no operating system installed to it, it is just full of music and video, it is used to communicating with windows but it is only used for storage, i was wondering if there was any way for me to access it without erasing the files.
[05:35] <THX-1138> PingunZ: Even had a painted monitor once. no manufacturer id - had to use the FCC label no# to scan fcc.gov
[05:36] <dabaR> thompa: administration of users and groups
[05:36] <PingunZ> hmm
[05:36] <yancm> Hi all - I;m a newb to ubuntu, having problems following instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems - is it OK to ask for quick help here?
[05:36] <thompa> dabaR: well you can add anything
[05:36] <tk> milan: I used this one, http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-4861-howto-install-beryl-dapper-nvidia-using
[05:36] <dabaR> !ask
[05:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:36] <faceface> dabaR, please can you give me an example of apt-files that should work?
[05:36] <milan> tk thanks ill take a look
[05:36] <thompa> dabaR: ok i changed my main group to users
[05:36] <tk> np
[05:36] <dabaR> !mount
[05:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:36] <THX-1138> Pingunz - lshw is a good tool.
[05:37] <milan> tk does the ubuntu tutorials also work on kubuntu (with KDE)
[05:37] <dabaR> richie_: you need to mount the disk maybe.
[05:37] <PingunZ> THX-1138: I'm in an arch install so I can't use that :)
[05:37] <thompa> dabaR: it was thom: thom now its thom: users
[05:37] <anacaona> ubotu: i think my ubuntu is broken cuz i'm getting a bunch of unresolved dependency messages even when i excluded the net based repositories and try to dist-upgrade from the cdrom alone.
[05:37] <PingunZ> I remember having 50-70 but I'm not sure
[05:37] <tk> milan: basics are still the same, just wouldnt be editing gnome sessions files....
[05:37] <richie_> dabaR: when i double click i
[05:37] <richie_> it*
[05:37] <milan> ok then ill try it
[05:37] <milan> thanks tk
[05:37] <richie_> dabaR: it gives me an error for some sort
[05:38] <yancm> OK, I;ve got the live CD to run on my gateway laptop - P2_233, 196M ram - is there a way to skip the gui and do a straight server install?
[05:38] <thompa> dabaR: :) it used to be way easier, im in edgy so maybe thats a pro
[05:38] <dabaR> richie_: go read the whole error and tell us about it.
[05:38] <tk> yancm: on the boot menu, it gives you several options, one is a cmd line install w/o the fancy GUI i believe
[05:38] <richie_> dabaR: oh, i no longer get the error but the files are not in there :S
[05:38] <yancm> For some reason, it seems to go straight to the GUI???
[05:39] <anacaona> dabar: i think my ubuntu is broken cuz i'm getting a bunch of unresolved dependency messages even when i excluded the net based repositories and try to dist-upgrade from the cdrom alone.
[05:39] <dabaR> yancm: not with that cd, the alternate cd does that for you though.
[05:39] <richie_> dabaR: i get this error now: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdb2"
[05:39] <dabaR> anacaona: show me the cd line from /etc/apt/sources.list file, please
[05:40] <THX-1138> anacoana - can i make a huge crazy wild guess? - is ubuntu-desktop    meta package installed?
[05:40] <yancm> dabaR" so your saying I can't get there with the live CD - need to download a different image? If so, which?
[05:40] <dabaR> richie_: it is not mounted properly.
[05:40] <faceface> apt-file search never works here
[05:40] <THX-1138> anacaona: some upgrades/package installs remove it and foul things up on upgrade
[05:40] <dabaR> yancm: ya, and I told you which one too. alternate
[05:41] <richie_> dabaR: how do i correctly mount it? i've never attempted mounting on previous versions of linux, but now my windows is broken i have to.
[05:41] <anacaona> dabaR: rebooting, i'll give you the line in a sec.
[05:41] <faceface> apt-file search sdl-config ??? anyone give me a hint?
[05:41] <faceface> does apt-file need to be init?
[05:42] <dabaR> apt-file update
[05:42] <faceface> lol
[05:42] <faceface> so long
[05:42] <THX-1138> richie_ - will this link help?
[05:42] <THX-1138> !grub
[05:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:42] <dabaR> THX-1138: no.
[05:42] <anacaona> dabaR: typing in cuz the pc i'm trying to upgrade has decided networking is overrated.
[05:42] <padan> I am trying to move files / install apps from my laptop to my treo using bluetooth.  I am running xubuntu dapper.  i was able to pair the laptop and the treo, but now i have no idea where to go from here.  I have poked around in multisync and jpilot and i think what i need to do is create a device pointer, but I am not sure what it should point to.  I am not interested in syncing, just in installing apps and transfering files.
[05:42] <chinaski> hello
[05:42] <Rookie-> !mythtv
[05:42] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[05:42] <dabaR> richie_: what is the file system on the disk? is it mounted in windows as a D or C drive?
[05:42] <ianmacgregor> !mount
[05:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:43] <chinaski> i have a problem
[05:43] <richie_> dabaR: it's NTFS and is mounted as D
[05:43] <anacaona> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted
[05:43] <ubuntu_> Hi
[05:43] <chinaski> i have ha 6.06 lts disk
[05:43] <anacaona> hey ubuntu_
[05:43] <chinaski> which i received via free shipping
[05:44] <chinaski> and it cant get recognized by synaptic
[05:44] <ubuntu_>   
[05:44] <dabaR> richie_: do you use terminals occasionaly?
[05:44] <ubunt> hi. question: how to enable xfce in ubuntu?
[05:44] <chinaski> i dont know what is the problem
[05:44] <chinaski> please help
[05:44] <richie_> dabaR: well on my last version of ubuntu i used root terminal all the time, but i can't find it on this version, and i'm not familiar with the regular terminal
[05:44] <chinaski> i tried apt-cdrom add
[05:45] <dabaR> ubunt: there is a xubuntu-desktop package you could install that would install all the xfce apps of a standard xubuntu install.
[05:45] <chinaski> but it just recognizes it
[05:45] <chinaski> and imports nothing
[05:45] <THX-1138> There are channels for many different languages. - no idea if that language is one of them
[05:45] <dabaR> richie_: open one, then run sudo mount, and see where the disk is mounted.
[05:45] <THX-1138> !ubotu
[05:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:46] <richie_> dabaR: woah, confusing erm..
[05:46] <richie_> dabaR: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[05:46] <richie_> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[05:46] <richie_> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[05:46] <richie_> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[05:46] <richie_> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[05:46] <richie_> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[05:46] <richie_> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[05:46] <richie_> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[05:46] <richie_> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[05:46] <richie_> /dev/hdb2 on /tmp/disks-conf-hdb2 type ntfs (rw)
[05:47] <richie_> /dev/hdb2 will be the one i'm after
[05:47] <dabaR> don't paste here, there are other people talking as well. it is also not confusing, only one line says ntfs.
[05:47] <Weber> THX-1138, so when it ask me about my amount of memory, then I shall just write 128 ? Even thoug that I can leave it blank as it says ?
[05:47] <richie_> dabaR: apologies
[05:47] <SpaceFrog> Is it possible to boot my Windows partition in an emulated environment? Would VMWare be the program to use?
[05:47] <dabaR> richie_: no worries. post the output of cat /etc/fstab to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, please.
[05:47] <ianmacgregor> !qemu > SpaceFrog
[05:48] <chinaski> can anybody help me
[05:48] <THX-1138> Weber - i would add it in kilobytes like this 128000
[05:48] <chinaski> does anybody have 6.06 installed
[05:48] <richie_> dabaR: how do i find the output of something?
[05:48] <yancm> dabaR: OK, sory to be dense. I thought "alternate" was just a reference to "other" and not a proper name. Is alternet a better option than server? - sorry in advance if that's a dumb question.
[05:48] <ianmacgregor> chinaski: I am using 6.06
[05:48] <SpaceFrog> thanks
[05:48] <chinaski> ok
[05:48] <Zaggynl> Any program exists that shows read/writes per application in a GUI
[05:48] <Zaggynl> ?
[05:48] <dabaR> richie_: run the something in a terminal, and output will appear.
[05:49] <THX-1138> ubuntu_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat  - list of different language channels IRC
[05:49] <Rookie-> !pastebin
[05:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:49] <richie_> dabaR: etc/fstab simply says: no such file or directory
[05:49] <dabaR> yancm: no need to apologise...alternate cd has options to install a server as you boot into the menu at boot time.
[05:50] <dabaR> richie_: cat /etc/fstab
[05:50] <rmd_> i'm looking to minimalize the number of daemons upon booting my ubuntu system, is there a utility that lists daemons along side information and dialogs to enable/disable them?
[05:50] <chinaski> where can i find alternate cd
[05:50] <chinaski> i have only one cd
[05:50] <padla> Anybody using a thinkpad? I have an x21 and xubuntu but the system freezes short after booting. Should be some cheatcode to add, acpi, fb or so, anybody got an idea?
[05:50] <rmd_> i'm also looking to remove my windows partitions from my desktop upon login.  how can i do that?
[05:50] <chinaski> which is live and install altogether
[05:50] <SUSaiyan> Solopher: allo!
[05:50] <roduku> how do I install a package I downloaded?...I can't figure it out
[05:50] <richie_> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26758/
[05:50] <rmd_> chinaski, there is an alternative install CD listed just under "Desktop CD" on the main download page.
[05:51] <dabaR> rmd_: there is a System>Admin>Servers, but it does not list everything.
[05:51] <chinaski> but i dont have
[05:51] <chinaski> fuck
[05:51] <rmd_> roduku: if you haven't used Synaptic to install the package, find it in Nautilus and then double click it.
[05:51] <dabaR> heh
[05:51] <chinaski> i dont have fast internet connection
[05:51] <ianmacgregor> !language
[05:51] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:51] <Buglouse> When i try to install packages from source... I get this error:  checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:51] <chinaski> i got this cd from shipping
[05:51] <THX-1138> chinaski - it is with the list of other downloadable iso images  "text" install or alternate even the dvd iso using torrent which has three install methods live cd, text/alternate and OEM.
[05:51] <rmd_> dabaR: do you mean System>Admin>Services?
[05:51] <chinaski> fuck fuck fuck
[05:51] <roduku> where do I find Nautilus?
[05:51] <bushblows> i installed nessus, and it removed alot of gnome now i can run notepad, terminal, and pretty much everything
[05:52] <Solopher> (:
[05:52] <bushblows> is there a way of reversing this
[05:52] <dabaR> chinaski: it will be fine.
[05:52] <rmd_> roduku: Nautilus is your file manager.
[05:52] <Solopher> Hi
[05:52] <chinaski> THX-1138,
[05:52] <chinaski> as i said
[05:52] <dabaR> bushblows: you mean you can not run those programs?
[05:52] <chinaski> i dont have fast internet connection
[05:52] <rmd_> dabaR: yeah.  i found that.  I am looking for something that will let me disable, say, rsync, amongst other things.
[05:52] <priher> why difference of speed between explorer and firefox
[05:52] <chinaski> i depend on the ship-it fascility
[05:52] <SpaceFrog> regarding that QEMU howto, That's telling me to install WIndows in an emulated environment.. can i use my already-existing partition instead?
[05:53] <roduku> ok... isn't Synaptic the package installer
[05:53] <THX-1138> chinaski - okay shipit
[05:53] <dabaR> rmd_: man update-rc.d
[05:53] <priher> or any missoption should be installed?
[05:53] <THX-1138> !shipit
[05:53] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[05:53] <chinaski> shipit doesnt sed alternate cd
[05:53] <dabaR> priher: you mean internet explorer? ew...
[05:53] <richie_> dabaR: if you're busy helping someone else apologies, but just in cased you missed it, the link i gave was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26758/
[05:53] <chinaski> just one cd
[05:54] <richie_> case*
[05:54] <Weber> THX-1138, Shall I use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[05:54] <priher> dabaR : Yeah
[05:54] <chinaski> which cant be recognized by synaptic
[05:54] <priher> firefox is so low speed than explorer
[05:55] <priher> but using same network
[05:55] <THX-1138> Weber - I use it. no noticeable difference here either way. - though i have seen it advised most often with lcd panels on older laptops
[05:55] <Buglouse> When i try to install packages from source... I get this error when using the command ./configure:  checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:56] <dabaR> richie_: sudo umount /dev/hdb2;sudo mkdir /mnt/;sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb2;sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2 -tntfs -ousers
[05:56] <yggdrasil> how can i find out what device my microphone is ?
[05:56] <dabaR> yggdrasil: lshw perhaps
[05:56] <yggdrasil> cool ill try it
[05:56] <Wheelybin> I got my head around avidemux. It works by cutting out the bits you don't want! I'll post my efforts on youtube presently
[05:56] <dabaR> Buglouse: and what have you tried to remedy this, and do you have the usual, build-essential installed?
[05:57] <richie_> dabaR: mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/': File exists
[05:57] <Weber> THX-1138, I use old CRT screen
[05:57] <dabaR> richie_: that is all you got?
[05:57] <priher> dabaR : plz tell me too,, :)
[05:57] <richie_> dabaR: yep
[05:57] <THX-1138> Weber - "" 2 of them
[05:57] <dabaR> richie_: ls /mnt/hdb2
[05:57] <dabaR> priher: why is it slower...no idea.
[05:57] <Buglouse> dabaR: i installed gcc... don't know what else to do... i could show you the config.log if you wished
[05:57] <dabaR> Buglouse: install build-essential
[05:58] <Weber> THX-1138, ? what about this one? Select the X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default.
[05:58] <wrabbit^> Buglouse: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:58] <Solopher>  /join gentoo
[05:58] <richie_> dabaR: it gives the contents of what is in my harddrive
[05:58] <Buglouse> thank you
[05:58] <dabaR> richie_: sweet.
[05:58] <priher> dabaR : that is unusual case?
[05:59] <Buglouse> knew i had to do something allong thous lines.. install the installer
[05:59] <dabaR> priher: ya, nothing needs to be installed for that. Is it a lot slower?
[05:59] <dabaR> richie_: you probably want this to be mounted every time you sign in...
[05:59] <THX-1138> Weber. - Your file looked fine.
[05:59] <priher> yeah, very slow than explorer in windows..
[06:00] <priher> so I try to update firefox but nothing difference
[06:00] <richie_> dabaR: yes, i would like it so i can access it all the time
[06:00] <dabaR> richie_: can you use a command line editor?
[06:00] <richie_> dabaR: you mean from windows? i'm not incredibly familiar with it, but i've been there once or twice
[06:01] <Weber> THX-1138, so v4l, record & dbe, shall not be loaded ?
[06:01] <THX-1138> Weber - Did you install the binary from the nvidia site?  installing  nvidia-glx from the restricted repository is much easier and less fuss.
[06:01] <dabaR> richie_: no, the command line editor in a terminal. If not, run gksudo gedit /etc/fstab and we will edit it so it mounts every time.
[06:01] <Weber> THX-1138, I follewed the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com.
[06:02] <Weber> followed*
[06:02] <priher> so, using internet, some another files that needs to be installed for network options?
[06:02] <richie_> dabaR: right i've ran it.
[06:02] <ubund> !schedule
[06:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:02] <THX-1138> v4l - is old and uneeded. record isn't needed really  either. dbe i don't know about.
[06:02] <priher> or should be adjustment?
[06:02] <yggdrasil> dabar that didnt work..
[06:03] <ikehack> i cant use beryl and xgl
[06:03] <ikehack> so messed up i gave up
[06:03] <dabaR> richie_: copy and paste "/dev/hdb2        /mnt/hdb2   ntfs users     0       0
[06:03] <dabaR> no "
[06:03] <sami> hi every one
[06:03] <dabaR> ikehack: there is a #ubuntu-xgl, tried?
[06:03] <richie_> dabaR: below everything else?
[06:03] <THX-1138> ikehack - neither can i. - still looking for transparency? drop shadows? try xcompmgr and transset.
[06:04] <Paddy_EIRE> is there a suite of applictaions or a list at the very least to show what apps tie in to the "Web 2.0" idea in ubuntu
[06:04] <dabaR> yggdrasil: ls /dev and cross your fingers?
[06:04] <sami> guys i need help
[06:04] <dabaR> richie
[06:04] <THX-1138> ikehack: Wobbly windows and a whirling desk made me dizzy anhow. - lol
[06:04] <dabaR> richie_: yes.
[06:04] <Weber> THX-1138, ok. Now I have done the x-conf, what shall I do know ?
[06:04] <dabaR> !helpme
[06:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:04] <richie_> dabaR: and will this requrie a reboot now or will it just work?
[06:05] <dabaR> richie_: run sudo mount -a
[06:05] <dabaR> richie_: that remounts everything in fstab
[06:05] <THX-1138> Weber - make a copy and reboot
[06:05] <Weber> THX-1138, shall I write this ? sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:05] <richie_> dabaR: and will this just work every time now?
[06:05] <sureshot> hey THX-1138 how are you today
[06:05] <Weber> THX-1138, Why do shall I make a copy ?
[06:06] <sami> guys when i try install any porgram with apt-get i get error .... this E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:06] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> he every1....me runnin xgl/beryl on dapper
[06:06] <THX-1138> Weber - hm - i don't remember that being asked anywhere. load the glx module    modules  glx
[06:06] <yggdrasil> is a micrphone /dev/dsp
[06:06] <dabaR> richie_: it should, but I can not predict future, so a reboot is needed in that case too, in order to determine, that is. It does work that way, though. If you had ran sudo mount -a, and can still see the files in /mnt/hdb2, thenit should work from now on.
[06:06] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> trbl is i cant make a screenshot
[06:06] <ikehack> someone was heloing me in here eairler
[06:06] <ikehack> didnt really help
[06:06] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> it appears corrupted for some reason
[06:06] <Weber> THX-1138, I will restart now, ok ?
[06:06] <seamus7> Hi all ... anyone available to help me figure out a sudden problem on my system? 1) I added Kubuntu-Desktop and logged into Kubuntu. Fine.      2) I rebooted and chose my default Ubuntu session and now I can't access the internet, some system apps won't start: Networking, Services, Disks      3) I can't even access my DSL Modem/Router admin screen from the browser 4) I am connecting to the internet fine on my LiveCD right now. Could this possibly be a sign o
[06:06] <ikehack> XGL is running in a windows
[06:07] <ikehack> beryl-manager isnt set to beryl as a desktop theme
[06:07] <THX-1138> Weber - make a copy of any file that you have that gives you a desktop. - the command line is painful.
[06:07] <ikehack> and its not working
[06:07] <richie_> dabaR: argh, bad news, i'm getting permission errors for hdb2
[06:07] <Weber> THX-1138, I dont know what you mean by my dekstop ?
[06:08] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> can nybody help me??
[06:08] <Homer> how do I reload x
[06:08] <stefg_vm> seamus, that's more like a kernel/network-configuration problem and shouldn't be related to installing kubuntu-desktop. Did a new kernel slip in with it?
[06:08] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> beryl runnin fine and cant make a screenshot to showoff*sigh*
[06:08] <THX-1138> Weber - if you get stuck - enable VESA as your video driver. still stuck at the command line use irssi to connect irc and we'll sort it out.
[06:08] <yggdrasil> this plugin is telling me to open up /dev/dsp but im not sure if thats the correct device to open
[06:08] <Weber> ok
[06:08] <dabaR> richie_: change the line to /dev/hdb2        /mnt/hdb2   ntfs users, umask=0222     0       0
[06:08] <Weber> s u in a moment,.
[06:08] <dabaR> Then sudo mount -a and see whether that helped.
[06:09] <seamus7> stefg_vm: I didn't cath that if it did happen.l
[06:09] <seamus7> 'catch'
[06:09] <dabaR> Homer: alt-ctrl-backspace, or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[06:09] <THX-1138> Weber - If it gives errors and you can't get a graphical interface use the VESA driver temporarily.
[06:09] <Paddy_EIRE> !drak3d
[06:09] <richie_> dabaR: error saying: [mntent] : line 8 in /etc/fstab is bad
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drak3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <sureshot> THX-11
[06:10] <stefg_vm> seamus7: so you're on a live-CD now and have access to yur installed system, right?
[06:10] <seamus7> stefg_vm: yes
[06:10] <THX-1138> Good Morning sureshot
[06:10] <sureshot> THX=1138 that is how i got ubuntu to reconize my 17" laptop moniotr
[06:11] <sureshot> THX-1138 that is how i got ubuntu to reconize my 17" laptop moniotr
[06:11] <dabaR> richie_: there should be no space in between the comma and umask.
[06:11] <stefg_vm> seamus7: so can you open a terminal, and mount your installed ubuntu-root partition to /mnt from the live CD
[06:11] <THX-1138> sureshot - VESA mode?
[06:11] <sureshot> THX-1138 untill i got the  correct drivers that is
[06:11] <Paddy_EIRE> are there any web hosting services that tie into the opnsource and free minded attitude that linux projects
[06:11] <Paddy_EIRE> *opensource
[06:11] <sureshot> THX-1138 vesa mode correct
[06:11] <richie_> dabaR: ah, still the permission is bad, should it not be umask=0777?
[06:11] <THX-1138> sureshot - I am curious. did enabling/disabling the framebuffer option help?
[06:12] <seamus7> stefg_vm: once I get the specific dev/??? for my root partition... what's the command I would use: mnt ???
[06:12] <sureshot> THX-1138 no it did not... just set it at a max of 1027-768 and you will be fine untill the proper drivers were installed
[06:13] <stefg_vm> seamus7: it would be 'sudo mount /dev/hd[foo]  /mnt'
[06:13] <THX-1138> sureshot - ok.
[06:13] <seamus7> stefg_vm: ok one moment
[06:13] <sureshot> THX-1138 what kind of care are we worrking with here
[06:13] <sureshot> care=dard
[06:13] <dabaR> richie_: hm...let me read.
[06:13] <sureshot> care=card
[06:14] <wims> does anybody know of an eqvalient of WinAmp that can be used to listen to Shoutcast radio ?
[06:14] <richie_> dabaR: you want me to paste something for you? the contents of my fstab?
[06:14] <dabaR> richie_: ya
[06:14] <sureshot> THX-1138 spent most of the night in the er still no over all the morph i was given
[06:14] <THX-1138> sureshot - honestly i have forgotten the model 440mx i believe
[06:14] <Rookie-> !shoutcast
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shoutcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <stefg_vm> wims that's trivial... vlc, listen come to my mind first
[06:14] <cyzie> hello, i have abit board (abit nf7-s2). and i have 2 hdds (80GB SATA). i plan to install xubuntu on top of it. is there any advice/tips/comment/hightlight on my new setup ? thanks
[06:15] <wims> stefg_vm,  can VLC listen to shoutcast radio ?
[06:15] <stefg_vm> !multimedia
[06:15] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:15] <Rookie-> wims,  think you can do that with xmms
[06:15] <sureshot> THX-1138 that is an ati correct
[06:15] <richie_> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26761/
[06:15] <THX-1138> sureshot - I hope you are feeling better. - the er is never fun. even for doctors and nurses.
[06:15] <THX-1138> sureshot nvidia an older card
[06:15] <stefg_vm> wims: AFAIK yes. never tried coz I#m alast.fm junkie :-)
[06:15] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> im runnin beryl on an Xpress 200 based pc with ati drivers.........beryl is runnin fine but the prob is i cant make screenshots....screenshots made usin prntscreen appear corrupted............but strangely screenthots of indivudual windws captured usin alt+print screen come out fine...............any solution to this??
[06:16] <Wheelybin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu6uMDfBN88 here we go, thanks to your help here this video is now uploaded!
[06:16] <sureshot> THX-1138 my eyes are going bad on me played a game that casued real bad pain and they though i was having  a stroke so a cat scan and a lumbar puncture (spinal tap) that was not fun
[06:16] <Tampler> Where i can find Ice IceWeasel.deb packet  for Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[06:17] <sureshot> THX-1138 you could alway down load the driver put on the disk and load it at install time does it not give you that ability
[06:17] <dabaR> richie_: remove the "users,", so just umask, then remoun
[06:17] <Rookie-> !iceweasel
[06:17] <THX-1138> sureshot - yes, my wife had a similar problem 4 years ago. - she lost sight in one eye. - she is fine now.
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iceweasel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Rookie-> !ice
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <sureshot> THX-1138 hope this means somthing for you but i will put you all on my prayer list...
[06:18] <Tampler> Its a some GNU version of Mozilla
[06:18] <richie_> dabaR: still no luck, it is the permissions error still
[06:18] <THX-1138> My mother always told me getting old isn't for "Sissy's" - lol
[06:18] <jhjp> i have a problem: i want to build a little server: samba, ftp, apache, mysql, ssh  -  and nothing else! How can i uninstall all the needless packages???
[06:18] <pandamonium> is there someone who can help me make sense of what's dumped in xsession-errors?
[06:18] <Rookie-> Tampler, seems like there is no such pkg to ubuntu
[06:19] <seamus7> stefg_vm: I ran the command to mount my root file system
[06:19] <Tampler> Yes maube i finded only tar.gz
[06:19] <dabaR> richie_: what is your system username?
[06:19] <Rookie-> ubotu knows almost everything ;)
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knows almost everything ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <richie_> dabaR_: richie
[06:19] <sureshot> THX-1138 i dont know that much about nvidia i hava all ati cards for sume silly reason like cost
[06:19] <pandamonium> ubotu xsession-errors
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsession-errors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <voosuz> Hey, my ubuntu hangs during boot at: Checking file systems.... \n fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006) ... no disk activity whatsoever. what filesystems does it want to check there?
[06:20] <THX-1138> sureshot - The worst part of the entire experience was a cash strapped doctor that offered a very risky operation as a "fix" - we couldn't afford it. didn't have the procedure done and she is fine.
[06:20] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> my screenshots coming out corrupted.................ny idea why??
[06:21] <stefg> seamus7: then check in /mnt/boot if there's more than one kernel (vmlinuz-2.6.15-blah)
[06:21] <sureshot> THX-1138 good for you man i only see docs like that are rich LOL and refered by my family doc
[06:21] <dabaR> richie_: try /dev/hdb2        /mnt/hdb2      ntfs    uid=richie,gid=richie,umask=0222     0       0
[06:22] <THX-1138> sureshot - psst we are off topic - nice of them not to say anything.
[06:22] <seamus7> I see vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386  and vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 and two versions for most other items listed there
[06:23] <sureshot> THX-1138 i noticed i will be good LOLOLOL
[06:23] <seamus7> stefg: see above sorry
[06:23] <sureshot> and thanks all for letting me bable on like bablon 5
[06:23] <richie_> dabaR: this is silly, it's still saying i don't have the neccassary permissions required to view "hdb2" i don't understand
[06:24] <Rookie-> try sudo cd /dir
[06:24] <stefg> seamus7: ok, then i'd simply try to boot one of the older kernels for testing and see if the problem persist. You might have received a newer kernel with the kubuntu install that needs a reconfigure of the network
[06:25] <Rookie-> how come so many uses i386 when the common kernel today is i686 ... ?
[06:25] <stefg> Doesn't make a drastic difference :-)
[06:25] <Rookie-> ohh ? hmmm made that on my puter
[06:26] <stefg> even the 386 kernel self-optimizes on newer hardware
[06:26] <Rookie-> new modules ....
[06:26] <THX-1138> Rookie - For maximum compatibility. - many have older machines.
[06:26] <Rookie-> yea, you prolly right
[06:26] <Weber> THX-1138, It still doesnt work
[06:26] <Weber> What was the option you wanted me to put in.?
[06:27] <richie_> dabaR: would it not work to give it the same things hda1 has? "defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[06:27] <steveire> If I do kate & I can still use the command line in konsole. What if I only did kate and now want to use that shell again without closing kate? I read it in linuxcommand.org before, but that site is donw.
[06:27] <dabaR> richie_: not likely, cause it is a different file system=different optiions
[06:28] <richie_> dabaR: ah, i see.
[06:28] <dabaR> richie_: not sure why it gives you that error, really, those options should do it.
[06:28] <mister_roboto> steveire: make sure you start your program (kate in this case) by putting it in the background if you wanna keep using that shell.  put in the background by appending & on the end of your command
[06:28] <seamus7> stefg: would I boot into Grub using the 'esc' key on restart? is that how I would do that? and then what would it mean to have two kernels? should i get rid of the older one? is ubuntu using the old one and kubuntu using the new one? thanks for the help by the way.
[06:28] <THX-1138> Weber - If sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't work i wold try either a google search for your card model and xorg.conf or boot the live cd if it works better and peek at the xorg.conf file.
[06:28] <richie_> dabaR: is the =0222 chmodding? wouldn't it be better to do 0777 or 777?
[06:28] <Willster> hey, does anyone know of a program that will let you mount ISO/NRG/bin-cue/etc in linux?
[06:28] <steveire> mister_roboto: I read a way to detach it after executing the command. You don't know how?
[06:29] <cyzie> hello, i have abit board (abit nf7-s2). and i have 2 hdds (80GB SATA). i plan to install xubuntu on top of it. is there any advice/tips/comment/hightlight on my new setup ? thanks
[06:29] <mister_roboto> steveire: after it's already running?  hmmm no
[06:29] <dabaR> richie_: umask is opposite from chmod. it tells what permissions to take away, so 2 would be taking away the write perms.
[06:29] <Paddy_EIRE> !fluxbox
[06:29] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:29] <steveire> mister_roboto: http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:u1RqIAv0dS0J:www.linuxcommand.org/lts0080.php+site:linuxcommand.org+lesson+8&hl=en&gl=ie&ct=clnk&cd=1
[06:29] <steveire> found it
[06:29] <Weber> THX-1138, ok. But the line you wanted me to put into my xorg.conf before, what was that ?
[06:29] <THX-1138> Willster - /there likely is a solution. if you find it or a way to mount alcohol 120% images i need the info too.
[06:30] <mister_roboto> steveire: how's that? i'm curious
[06:30] <richie_> dabaR: i see, but i will wanting write permissions as i will be adding more audio to it..
[06:30] <steveire> mister_roboto: hmm?
[06:30] <richie_> be wanting*
[06:30] <mister_roboto> steveire: you said you found it?
[06:30] <THX-1138> Weber - under the video card   device     option "RenderAccel" "true"
[06:30] <ianmacgregor> How is this going to work? After Edgy is released (and subsequent versions) will support for Dapper remain in this channel since it has LTS?
[06:30] <stefg> seamus7: Yup, pressing esc at boot gets you to a menu where you can choose between your installed kernels. But the system uses either the one or the other, that's not affected by the choice of desktop. As you can see, it's handy to have older kernels around that you can boot in case of a problem
[06:30] <steveire> google cache site:linuxcommand.org detach
[06:31] <mister_roboto> steveire: thanks
[06:31] <holy_cow> what is the command to kick my other nick offline?
[06:31] <jrib> holy_cow: ghost
[06:31] <Weber> THX-1138, ?
[06:31] <holy_cow> jrib, dank!
[06:31] <holy_cow> e
[06:31] <ianmacgregor> holy_cow: /msg nickserv ghost
[06:31] <seamus7> stefg: oh ok. so you think that probably that newer kernel is being used when I boot up and its simply just not configured?
[06:31] <THX-1138> holy_cow: ghost  /msg nickserv help
[06:31] <holycow> THX-1138, thank you
[06:32] <atlef> what kernel does a amd x2 require for optimal performance?
[06:32] <SurfnKid> does ubuntu dapper support "Project Looking Glass" ?
[06:32] <stefg> seamus7: my theory is that you got 2.6.15-27 while installing kubuntu-desktop and that it ( /of course/, i might add ) is causing trouble...
[06:33] <THX-1138> Weber - video card -  device - option "RenderAcel" "true"
[06:33] <THX-1138> "RenderAccel"
[06:33] <atlef> !kernel
[06:33] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:33] <atlef> !smb
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <stefg> !samba
[06:34] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:34] <ianmacgregor> !samba
[06:34] <stefg> hehe
[06:34] <THX-1138> atlef > !samba
[06:34] <atlef> smb kernel?
[06:34] <seamus7> stefg; what would be my next step if your diagnosis turns out to be true? Is there an easy way to configure the new kernel or can I just set the system to use the old working kernel by default?
[06:35] <THX-1138> atlef - samba will work with every ubuntu kernel
[06:35] <atlef> not samba, kernel for dual core
[06:36] <atlef> !smp
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <THX-1138> seamus7 - yes you can configure the new kernel or yes you can use  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst to change the kernel booted.
[06:37] <THX-1138> atlef - smp is symetric multi processing a kernel for multi-core systems.
[06:37] <stefg> seamus7: actually it isn't hard to make the new kernel work. That depends on your NIC, maybe you need a restricted module and do not have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27 installed.... whatever, try if you can connect to the net with an older kernel and come back here on your installed system if this is the case
[06:37] <atlef> needed for x2 cpu
[06:38] <THX-1138> atlef - yes. multicore
[06:38] <seamus7> thx-1138: oh ok thx. do i need to unmount my root partition now.
[06:38] <seamus7> stefg: oh ok great thx. do i need to unmount my root partition now?
[06:38] <THX-1138> seamus7 - take a peek at the menu.lst file
[06:38] <THX-1138> !grub
[06:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:39] <stefg> seamus7: that'll be doone during shutdown
[06:39] <atlef> ok,
[06:40] <seamus7> thx-1138: ok i'm looking at it in nano right now
[06:40] <SurfnKid> would anyone say windows vista is nice, or close to good to move to? (not that im going to, just want someone's opinion)
[06:40] <THX-1138> atlef - if you choose a 64 bit kernel - most packages applications are 32 bit. - I would choose 32 bit in your place.
[06:40] <richie_> dabaR: have you not thought of anything else that may be an issue?
[06:41] <Weber> THX-1138, May I query you ?
[06:41] <THX-1138> Weber - no
[06:41] <Weber> THX-1138, k.
[06:41] <atlef> but a smp kernel, or?
[06:41] <seamus7> stefg: oh ok.
[06:41] <THX-1138> smp kernel yes, 32 bit kernel yes too
[06:42] <atlef> thank you very much
[06:43] <THX-1138> atlef - I admire you for speaking two languages and using linux. - it is very challenging in english.
[06:43] <porcho> hi. I need to set some environment variables right after a user login. I'm trying to use GDM PostLogin script, with no sucess. can someone help me?
[06:44] <stefg> porcho: use .bashrc
[06:44] <richie_> Hello can anybody help me? I have mounted an NTFS harddrive, but for some reason I do not have the permissions to access it.
[06:44] <Rookie-> you can reaad ntfs but not write
[06:44] <porcho> stefg: but .bashrc isn't supposed to execute just when that user opens a terminal inside gnome, for example?
[06:45] <stefg> porcho: .bashrc is executed right after login... just as yyou need it
[06:45] <atlef> most of the documentation is in english, or that is to say most is written in english, and later translated. so if you are impatient, like me, you learn. :-)
[06:46] <seamus7> THX-1138: I have my menu.lst open ....
[06:46] <SurfnKid> why is vista such a piece of %@#
[06:46] <THX-1138> atlef - I tried arabic - it was impossible for me.
[06:47] <atlef> hehe
[06:47] <Willster> THX-1138:  I believe I found a solution that will let you mount non-ISO files.  Two programs:  Kiso & AcetoneISO.  They don't let you directly mount files like MDS/nrg/etc...but will convert files to .ISO for you
[06:47] <pygi> anyone have HP Photosmart 8250 perhaps?
[06:47] <raghu206> pls someone help saying what is UDF
[06:47] <THX-1138> seamus7 - you will need an example from a webpage - i could talk you through it here but likely it would be easier to see a sample.
[06:48] <atlef> i could also speak/write german, but that was 13years ago.
[06:48] <johnny_> ello everyone
[06:48] <lupine_85> Willster: could always use bchunk or nrg2iso or whatever
[06:48] <SurfnKid> i really hate microsoft, first they say their software is the best, and we all depended on it, now linux has improved with an infinite list of enhancements, and what does microsoft do??  they want to make their crap look just like linux...
[06:48] <lupine_85> mds is a new one on me, mind
[06:48] <THX-1138> Willster -AWESOME!
[06:49] <Willster> THX-1138: kiso is available through apt-get, not sure about acetone
[06:49] <stefg> SurfnKid: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <SurfnKid> :\
[06:49] <mister_roboto> SurfnKid: interesting, i didn't know linux had a "look"  ;)
[06:49] <Gilnim> hi guys! I need a bittorrent client that is able to load several torrents at the same time. I don't want to use Azureus because Azureus sucks. So you have any other ideas. (I don't want to oben for each torrent a new window - like bittornado does)
[06:49] <mnk> hello all
[06:49] <johnny_> i need some help with installing firestarter could someone help me i am new at ubuntu and just installed it
[06:49] <Willster> why does azureus suck?
[06:49] <SurfnKid> mister_roboto, i meant the window manager, xgl, transparency, etc
[06:49] <Gilnim> hi mnk
[06:50] <SAM_theman> whats up with flash on ubuntu ???
[06:50] <Gilnim> because it puts out several failures
[06:50] <mnk> i installed edgy and it was working fine. then i just installed all the updates, rebooted and i can't get into the gnome environment anymore - the screen just goes blank.
[06:50] <stefg> Gilnim: torrent with wine
[06:50] <SAM_theman> I can't play videos or listen to music??
[06:50] <lupine_85> ktorrent? :)
[06:50] <Willster> Gilnim:  do you have the latest java release?
[06:50] <stefg> !edgy > mnk
[06:50] <THX-1138> seamus7 - cp your menu.lst to menu.lst.bak  okay?
[06:50] <mnk> !edgy
[06:50] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:51] <Timo90> SAM what browser are you using
[06:51] <Gilnim> ktorrent is maily for kde - so i don't want to use it, even though i use it at the moment
[06:51] <mnk> thanks stefg
[06:51] <Gilnim> Willster: Why not ...
[06:51] <seamus7> THX-1138: ok. i got lost somewhere in my messages between you and stefg ... THX-1138: are you trying to help me configure my new kernel? i'm about to reboot and see if my old kernel is working properly.
[06:52] <Gilnim> Willster: My problem is that I have 64 bit Ubuntu.
[06:52] <SAM_theman> firefox
[06:52] <SAM_theman> its happing on my dads comp
[06:52] <Timo90> install flash
[06:52] <mister_roboto> mnk: you might try reconfiguring your X
[06:52] <SAM_theman> it works
[06:52] <porcho> stefg: worked like a charm! thanks a lot!
[06:53] <SAM_theman> but when i go to googlevideo and play some videos its soo late when the people talk
[06:53] <mnk> mister_roboto, how do i do that?
[06:53] <stefg> seamus7: Yes, please try that first. Then you know more about your problem
[06:53] <SAM_theman> and i can't play any music from radioblog .com
[06:53] <mnk> mister_roboto, i do remember some command to do that but i have forgotten what it is
[06:53] <SAM_theman> it works on windows
[06:53] <Willster> Gilnim:  you could try like stefg said, and use uTorrent under wine...very straightforward exe-only client without the java
[06:53] <mister_roboto> mnk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:54] <porcho> stefg: I still find it odd, though. user's .bashrc will just run when that user opens up a terminal inside gnome, for example. why system-wide .bashrc works in a different way?
[06:54] <mister_roboto> mnk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, that is
[06:54] <stefg> porcho: ask Kernighan, Ritchie and Thompson
[06:54] <mnk> thanks mister_roboto; someone else just told me to install ubuntu-desktop whioch i have done. do i have to do what u said still?
[06:54] <mnk> ?
[06:54] <SAM_theman> and this used to work on 5.10
[06:55] <SAM_theman> I and its pissing me off
[06:55] <Hostile> Can you guys tell me what soundcard I have from the output of "lspci" ?
[06:55] <Gilnim> Willster: I didn't want to use a windows application with wine because I could imagine that it would slow down my PC
[06:55] <mister_roboto> mnk: well... first see if what you have done works :)  one variable at a time
[06:55] <Timo90> im trying the web site out
[06:55] <mnk> ok thanks mister_roboto
[06:55] <mnk> :)
[06:56] <Willster> Ginim: Fair enough, not sure if I would trust the stability either...does sun not have working new java releases for 64-bit?
[06:56] <SAM_theman> Look here be honest when u play this flash movie is the sound effects late when jet li punches
[06:56] <SAM_theman> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4510040204817422637&q=jet+li
[06:56] <Timo90> thanks i will try that
[06:57] <SAM_theman> I have a AMD X2 3800+ is that a problem on a 32-bit ubutnu ?
[06:57] <Kingsqueak> X2 4200+ works fine with amd64
[06:57] <johnny_> when i try to install firestarter_1.0.3-1.1_i386.deb, i get an error saying "Error: dependency is not satisfiable: libgnutis11"
[06:58] <Random_Transit> hey, quick question...is there any way for me to reinstall windows on one drive and not have it screw with GRUB?
[06:58] <johnny_> can anyone help?
[06:58] <Gilnim> Willster: I'm not sure. I'll check that.   But the problem is not that asureus doesn't work. It just puts out annoying failures
[06:59] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ did you try installing it with apt-get ?
[06:59] <Gilnim> Random_Transit: interesting question!
[06:59] <Willster> Gilnim: I had the same problem until I updated Java.  Very poor download speeds, would not recognize TCP/UDP ports as forwarding a lot of the time, randomly closing, etc.
[06:59] <lupine_85> Random_Transit: if it's a separate physical drive, then yes
[06:59] <lupine_85> if not, then no
[06:59] <Willster> Gilnim:  But now it works far better than Ktorrent
[06:59] <Gilnim> Willster: Looks similar to me
[06:59] <Random_Transit> lupine_85, it is a separate drive
[06:59] <Gilnim> the problems
[07:00] <Timo90> The video seems o have no sounds ;)
[07:00] <johnny_> yes
[07:00] <johnny_> i get a message stating
[07:00] <lupine_85> in that case it should overwrite the MBR of the drive it's installed on, leaving the other untouched
[07:00] <Random_Transit> nice.
[07:01] <Loof> Heya, two quick little laptop questions...  (1) How do I turn off the 'click' functionality of the touchpad... It's waaay oversensitive and I'm constantly clicking when I want to move the mouse.
[07:01] <johnny_> Reading package lists... Done... uilding dependency tree... Done... E: Couldn't find package firestarter
[07:01] <Random_Transit> so it won't look for the first drive on the IDE channel and wipe it's MBR?
[07:01] <Xavier101> does anyone know anything about python programming?
[07:01] <Loof> (2) I've got a 'Super Savage' chipset, the vesa driver works fine... but using the 'savage' driver gives me only 640x480
[07:01] <Loof> Xavier: Yes
[07:01] <Timo90> Its the video not your system
[07:01] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ you have multiverse in your sources.list file?
[07:01] <porcho> Xavier101: a bit
[07:01] <Random_Transit> Xavier101, try #python
[07:01] <Random_Transit> ^_~
[07:01] <atlef> bye, will now reboot for a smp kernel install, wish me luck :-)
[07:01] <Xavier101> Random_Transit, tried it
[07:02] <Random_Transit> wow
[07:02] <Random_Transit> ok
[07:02] <johnny_> i have no idea i am new at this
[07:02] <Random_Transit> lol
[07:02] <sureshot> hey all is there a command line way to format a hard drive that wont let it mount as it formats this is getting annoying
[07:02] <Loof> atlef: You don't need to on recent kernels
[07:02] <Xavier101> so does python allow you to create GUI interfaces?
[07:02] <Random_Transit> lupine_85, so it won't look for the first drive on the IDE channel and wipe it's MBR?
[07:02] <Loof> Xavier: RTFM
[07:02] <porcho> Xavier101: I use gtk to do this
[07:03] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ o.k., /etc/apt/sources.list enables where your system will look for packages to install and update, basically go read that file and uncomment the multiverse and restricted entries there if the description looks good to you, then do  apt-get update, then try installing firestarter again
[07:03] <Loof> Xavier: You could answer that question in 2 seconds on google.com
[07:03] <lupine_85> It shouldn't do
[07:03] <lupine_85> to be safe, you could disconnect the other drive first
[07:03] <stefg> sureshot: a mkfs.ext3 will surely not mount the drive anyway while makeng the filesystem
[07:03] <Xavier101> Loof, errm....ok thanks
[07:03] <Loof> I personally struggled with both issues I asked about for a few hours before asking here.
[07:03] <porcho> Xavier: try http://www.pygtk.org/ and http://glade.gnome.org/
[07:03] <Loof> porcho: Good call, specific sites.
[07:04] <Loof> g'luck Xavier
[07:04] <johnny_> k
[07:04] <sureshot> stefg thanks but if i may ask can you give the the full syntax i think the it is /dev/sdb
[07:05] <dan2> ahoy
[07:05] <dan2> Which of the big appservers supports EJB3 and has a decent ESB implementation?
[07:05] <lupine_85> sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb<partition-number> ?
[07:05] <Loof> So, anyone have a clue on the two X11 config issues I've got?
[07:05] <johnny_> whats uncomment mean Kingsueak?
[07:05] <GortiZ> !beryl
[07:05] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[07:05] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Repositories
[07:06] <thcrw8383> hi
[07:06] <mnk> coooooooooooooooooooooooool
[07:06] <mnk> :D
[07:06] <mnk> mister_roboto, THANKS
[07:06] <mnk> mister_roboto, it worked :)
[07:06] <thcrw8383> Ubuntu is soooooooooooooo cool
[07:06] <Random_Transit> thcrw8383, yes, yes it is.
[07:06] <mister_roboto> mnk: great! glad to hear it :)   running edgy here too on a couple of machines.
[07:07] <Ignatius> how to change intel graphics driver, manual says through yast but naturally ubuntu ain't using RPM'. got the tar of driver.
[07:07] <dan2> damn it wrong room
[07:07] <porcho> Loff: I can't even the touchpad to work here...:-((
[07:07] <willys_fueguino> !edgy
[07:07] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:08] <willys_fueguino> !schedule
[07:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:08] <atlef> and that was all, now we have dual core
[07:08] <Loof> Mines oversensitive to the point of being annoying
[07:08] <Loof> I can't navigate the menus because touching it to move... clicks on the menu item unless I -barely- touch it
[07:08] <Loof> Oh well
[07:08] <kkrizka> I get the following error when installing cpanel-data: "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[07:09] <Dominus_Suus> how does one get in touch with a package manager to report an out-of-date package?
[07:09] <boink> doesn't exist
[07:10] <lupine_85> kkrizka: what it says on the tin. the package is running a script (postinst) which is returning an error - so the installation is aborted
[07:10] <atlef> Dominus_Suus : go to #ubuntu-motu
[07:10] <Dominus_Suus> thanks atlef
[07:10] <lupine_85> there are package managers?!
[07:10] <mister_roboto> Dominus_Suus: there's a web page here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages
[07:10] <Dominus_Suus> lupine: well, I guess the technical term in 'package maintainer'
[07:11] <kkrizka> lupine_85: yeah I know, I get the same problem when trying to remove the package
[07:11] <boink> why does it install postfix as well?
[07:11] <bkudria> will the new nvidia drivers make it into the dapper archive?
[07:11] <kkrizka> lupine_85: I tried reinstalling it hoping that could fix it
[07:11] <lupine_85> sudo dpkg -r --force-all <package-name> to get rid of it
[07:12] <lupine_85> then if you really want it in, change the -r to -i, and <package-name> to <deb-file>
[07:12] <kkrizka> lupine_85: "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1" still
[07:12] <lupine_85> not really a great idea, though - best to report a bug, or fix the underlying problem
[07:12] <klonoa> how do i open a .rar filetype
[07:12] <sureshot> ok i can use mkfs.ext3 to make an ext3 can i use mkfs.fat32 as will and will i have to limmit the 250gb drive to a smally pattion
[07:13] <kkrizka> lupine_85:  I'll do that then
[07:13] <pmjdebruijn> Hi, I accidentally enabled deadkeys during the Edgy install procedure... deadkeys is massively ennoying... how can I disable them systemwide, so console, X, GNOME... the works...
[07:13] <klonoa> i have right clicked and selected extract but it says its not supported or something
[07:13] <vanRijn> um
[07:13] <vanRijn> re, all
[07:13] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, mkfs.vfat
[07:13] <stefg> sureshot: avoid any fat32 partiton over, say 70-80 GB... no fun
[07:14] <sureshot> pmjdegruijn is that a dos format not fumilure with that trum
[07:14] <sureshot> ok
[07:14] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, fumilure? trum?
[07:14] <vanRijn> what kernel version is the base for the ubuntu linux-image-2.6.15-27 one?  is it just 2.6.15?  or is it 2.6.15.7?
[07:14] <mister_roboto> klonoa: unrar?
[07:14] <pmjdebruijn> vanRijn, take a look at the changelog
[07:14] <bionoid> klonoa: sudo apt-get install rar
[07:14] <VViki> I mounted my hd in / what do I do??!??!
[07:15] <sureshot> pmjdebruijn is vfat compatable with ntfs
[07:15] <VViki> im using the live cd
[07:15] <Willster> yeah for some reason ark doesn't automatically have the package for unraring
[07:15] <GortiZ> !xgl
[07:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:15] <VViki> !mount
[07:15] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:15] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, vfat isn't compatible with ntfs...
[07:15] <stefg> vanRijn: it's a heavily patched version. apt-get install linux-source will give you the source package
[07:15] <VViki> how do I umount my HD now?!?!
[07:15] <bkudria> will the new nvidia drivers make it into the dapper archive?
[07:15] <VViki> i mounted it over the live cd virtual disk
[07:15] <pmjdebruijn> VViki, over?
[07:16] <raghu206>  when i want to write iso file of size 2.5 GB for fat file system K3B gave an error message that bcz the file is greater the 2 Gb it shud be mounted with UDF pls someone solve this problem
[07:16] <pmjdebruijn> bkudria, probably not
[07:16] <vanRijn> stefg: I'm trying to help figure out whether https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/39518 is caused by ubuntu's patches or if it's in the base kernel source as well
[07:16] <klonoa> mister_roboto: yes unrar
[07:16] <sureshot> pmjdebruijn thanks was looking for a way to write to it from xp and ubuntu both as a back up had it is on a sata to usb converter
[07:16] <vanRijn> stefg: so I'm pulling down a kernel source from kernel.org and I'm not sure which one to use
[07:16] <klonoa> bionoid: i tryed that and got "Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:16] <klonoa> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:16] <klonoa> is only available from another source
[07:16] <klonoa> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[07:16] <klonoa> "
[07:16] <pmjdebruijn> raghu206, fat can't handle anything over 2GB... it's a fat limitation... nothing you can do about it, except to use another filesystem
[07:16] <johnny_> Kingsqueak i did the add extra repositories and saved the file and went to install firestarter and still got that same error. and then i opened up terminal and typed in sudo apt-get install firestarter, and i get the same error
[07:16] <VViki> Im using the live CD, I mounted my HD in /
[07:16] <VViki> now I cant unmount it
[07:16] <bkudria> pmjdebruijn: oh. :(
[07:17] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ after you made the changes, did you do 'apt-get update' ?
[07:17] <bkudria> pmjdebruijn: do you know if they'll appear in eft?
[07:17] <vanRijn> stefg: looks like 2.6.15-23.35 pulled in 2.6.15.7
[07:17] <pmjdebruijn> bkudria, probably... depends on how 'new', check packages.ubuntu.com and search for nvidia on edgy
[07:17] <johnny_> just apt-get update without sudo in the beginning
[07:17] <Kingsqueak> no, use sudo
[07:17] <johnny_> then yews
[07:17] <bkudria> pmjdebruijn: new as in they were released maybe an hour ago :)
[07:18] <Hostile> anyone know what sound modules I need for my Crystal 4236B chip?
[07:18] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ what does 'sudo apt-cache search firestarter' tell you?
[07:18] <johnny_> ok neermind
[07:18] <johnny_> it did an update :)
[07:18] <pmjdebruijn> bkudria, oh, than probably also not... but check packages.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <Kingsqueak> ;-)
[07:18] <stefg> vanRijn: in dubio pro kernel.org :-) I don't trust the ubuntu-kernels very much and now routinely use the latest stable vanilla-kernel... but your mileage may vary
[07:18] <pmjdebruijn> Hostile, isn't that an ISA card?
[07:18] <johnny_> reading package list 83%
[07:18] <ricanelite> Anyone here knows about MOL?
[07:18] <Hostile> pmjdebruijn, it might be, its onboard on this
[07:19] <pmjdebruijn> stefg, if the Ubuntu kernel don't work you should file a bug!!!
[07:19] <klonoa> whats your prefered program for unraring files ?
[07:19] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ it's pulling down quite a long list of new things you can now install with apt-get, will take a bit to finish
[07:19] <pmjdebruijn> vanRijn, the Ubuntu kernel should 'just' work
[07:19] <johnny_> kingsqueak i got an error in the terminal saying  GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[07:19] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ you skipped a step in the wiki doc...go do the step to add the rep key
[07:19] <bkudria> pmjdebruijn: hmm, not yet.  thanks for the help!
[07:19] <vanRijn> stefg: heh.  no, absolutely.  I am using kernel.org's 2.6.17.13 with no problems whatsoever.  however, there's a nasty core-dumping bug I'm trying to help track down with the ubuntu stock kernel
[07:19] <johnny_> k
[07:19] <vanRijn> pmjdebruijn: yeah, I agree. however, see the bug I mentioned.
[07:20] <stefg> pmjdebruijn: after 10 bugreport (which are taken up after 6 months or so) you just want a working box and are tired of launchpad
[07:20] <seamus7> stefg: hi I booted (using Grub) into the old kernel but still had the same problems with accessing the internet or even my modem/router admin interface from the browser ... getting Disks, or Networking or Services to even start .... what do you think?
[07:20] <stonarmusic> i burned a game cd called 'descent' with k3b, and now i can't run the installer, is says its owned by root and there is a lock over the icon in nautilus, how do i change the permissions of this cd?
[07:20] <alfred_o> hello everybody
[07:20] <ubund> gdzie jest kosz w xubuntu?
[07:20] <Hostile> pmjdebruijn, any idea what modules I need for that sound?
[07:20] <jrib> !pl
[07:20] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:20] <atlef> hi alfred
[07:20] <pmjdebruijn> Hostile, not really... probably a module starten with 'cs'
[07:21] <alfred_o> i have a problem with xorg
[07:21] <stefg> seamus7: then we need a look at /etc/network/interfaces on your installed system
[07:21] <pmjdebruijn> Hostile, have a look in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/drivers/sound
[07:21] <stonarmusic> i tried to run the installer with wine, but it just hangs forever
[07:22] <alfred_o> i need a hand dealing with refresh rates
[07:22] <ricanelite> Anyone here knows about MOL?
[07:22] <seamus7> stefg: ok I've got interfaces open in nano
[07:23] <stefg> seamus7: does it have eth0 or eth1 mentioned somewhere?
[07:23] <skreet> anyone good with regular expressions?
[07:23] <jacked> is it possible to bridge my wireless and wired connections?
[07:24] <seamus7> stefg: auto lo
[07:24] <seamus7> iface lo inet loopback
[07:24] <seamus7> auto eth0
[07:24] <seamus7> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:24] <seamus7> auto eth1
[07:24] <seamus7> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[07:24] <seamus7> auto eth2
[07:24] <seamus7> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[07:24] <micahcowan> skreet: sure, ask away
[07:24] <seamus7> auto ath0
[07:24] <seamus7> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[07:24] <seamus7> auto wlan0
[07:24] <seamus7> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[07:24] <micahcowan> seamus7, stop flooding...
[07:24] <seamus7> sorry
[07:24] <johnny_> Kingsqueak ok everything semmed to be ok after i did the key but after it installed firestarter i got an error stating Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:24] <johnny_>  clvm
[07:24] <johnny_>  redhat-cluster-suite
[07:24] <johnny_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:24] <micahcowan> use pastebin next time, please, seamus7
[07:24] <stefg> seamus7: please use pastebin for things like that
[07:24] <skreet> micahcowan: should be a simple one but i'm not good with regexp's. Trying to make a regexp to remove all lines beginning with '#'. I got ^(?!#) but it's not taking. Where did I go wrong? :(
[07:24] <Shaezsche> have they fixed the edgy slow boot yet?
[07:24] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ not sure what to tell you there
[07:24] <seamus7> oh ok sorry
[07:25] <Shaezsche> edgy is taking 2 minutes for me to boot over twice of dapper. anyone know if this has been resolved
[07:25] <micahcowan> skreet, is this Perl? What's the full expression?
[07:25] <libdmb> hey, some really weird stuff is happening to linux for me
[07:25] <skreet> Well, i'm using it with grep.
[07:25] <johnny_> not good aye
[07:25] <skreet> And that's the full expression
[07:25] <libdmb> any of you use bind9 with ubuntu?
[07:25] <skreet> Thats all I want to do.
[07:25] <skreet> Lines that do not start with # :)
[07:25] <Hostile> pmjdebruijn, got it working modprobe snd-cs4236
[07:26] <martalli> Hostile:  What are you guys talking about?
[07:26] <Kingsqueak> skreet 'cat file.txt | sed -e 's/^#//'
[07:26] <SAM_theman> wow i get 8-11 thousand fps
[07:26] <Shaezsche> hellow?
[07:26] <Hostile> martalli, this sound chip on my old dell P2 box
[07:26] <micahcowan> skreet, (?!...) is a Perl expression. Use the -v option of grep instead. What you probably want is egrep: egrep -v '^#'
[07:26] <micahcowan> Kingsqueak, that will only substitute the first character of those lines.
[07:26] <stefg> seamus7: that looks complete. So you've got to figure out if all the kernels driver modules for your card are loaded, and then try if 'sudo dhclient' gives you a dhcp-lease from your router. But all this will only work in your installed system, not from the live CD
[07:26] <skreet> micah: So I had the right expression, wrong command? I was using grep -E
[07:27] <martalli> OK, just for a sec there I thought of my thinkad 600e, has a similar problem and its supposed to use cs4236 also
[07:27] <micahcowan> skreet, are you sure you don't want to include lines that start with whitespace followed by a #?
[07:27] <Kingsqueak> cat foo.txt | sed -e '/^#/d'
[07:27] <Shaezsche> edgy is taking 2 minutes for me to boot over twice of dapper. anyone know if this has been resolved
[07:27] <Kingsqueak> yeah sorry
[07:27] <seamus7> stefg: oh ok.
[07:27] <D_C> hello?
[07:27] <skreet> micah: I do, one step at a time.. :P
[07:27] <micahcowan> skreet, grep -E is exactly the same as egrep. Just take out the (?!...) bit and use the -v option.
[07:27] <johnny_> Kingsqueak
[07:27] <johnny_>  ok  well it install firestarter and its running now
[07:27] <skreet> micah: -v?
[07:27] <johnny_> so i guess its all good
[07:27] <D_C> can you read this or do i need to identify
[07:27] <micahcowan> skreet, -v = "print lines that don't match:"
[07:28] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ those errors are with something else you installed, thus why I'm unsure what they mean
[07:28] <skreet> micah: I see, well, why doesnt ?!# work, doesn't that mean one char that IS NOT a #?
[07:28] <stefg> seamus7: when was the last time it worked?
[07:28] <johnny_> i installed a cluster program
[07:28] <johnny_> i thought it had to do something with defragging
[07:28] <micahcowan> skreet, you could probably use your original expression with grep's -P (PCRE support) option.
[07:28] <skreet> ah
[07:28] <vanRijn> ricanelite: yes
[07:29] <skreet> So, if you don't mind, how can I add whitespace?
[07:29] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ stick to installing with apt until you get a bit more time with it
[07:29] <micahcowan> skreet, no. it's a perlism, and it only works with the parentheses as you used it.
[07:29] <johnny_> ok
[07:29] <D_C> does anyone know how to create a script example just to change directory and execute a file
[07:29] <johnny_> thank you so much for your help
[07:29] <johnny_> :)
[07:29] <Kingsqueak> no problem
[07:29] <jacked> is it possible to bridge my wireless and wired connections? (is this a stupid question?)
[07:29] <micahcowan> skreet, I'd personally use grep -E -v '^[[:space:] ] *#'
[07:30] <micahcowan> skreet, or you could use grep -P '^\s*(?!#)', I think
[07:30] <Kingsqueak> egrep -v ^#.*$ foo.txt
[07:30] <skreet> micah: egrep -v  '^[[:space:] ] *#' worked
[07:30] <VViki> do you know any download manager capable of openning many connections at once?
[07:30] <skreet> Thanks for all your help! :)
[07:30] <stefg> D_C: #!/bin/sh , cd /my/dir , sh myfile, exit 0
[07:30] <micahcowan> skreet, you're welcome! You may find it easier to stick with -P or use perl -ne in the future, if you're used to Perl's regexes.
[07:31] <VViki> do you know any download manager capable of openning many connections at once?
[07:31] <seamus7> stefg: yesterday ... i installed kubuntu-desktop and remember choosing an option NOT to configure something .... I logged into a kubuntu session and all worked fine. eventually yesterday I did a reboot of my system and I immediately noticed that my login screen was a Xubuntu splash ( I had once installed xubuntu-desktop and then uninstalled it) ... once I logged into Ubuntu (Gnome session) I didn't have any connectivity and some of my system apps weren't sta
[07:31] <skreet> micah: not used to anything,really, regexps are new on me :(
[07:31] <skreet> Bye, thanks again!
[07:31] <martalli> I've been running edgy for a few days, and there is a package "libggi2" that is constantly listed in the update-manager log, but is not selectable.  My son's edubuntu box is doing the same thing.
[07:31] <lupine_85> VViki: probably wget
[07:31] <Shaezsche> edgy is taking 2 minutes for me to boot over twice of dapper. anyone know if this has been resolved
[07:31] <martalli> I haven't had any obvious problems, but is something wrong,?
[07:33] <D_C> stefg this might seem stupid but what do i save the file as?
[07:33] <boink> edgy is still beta
[07:33] <stefg> D_C: ~/myscript.sh ?
[07:33] <ricanelite> vanRijn you know about MOL?
[07:33] <VViki> wget is built in
[07:33] <D_C> oh ok :>
[07:33] <D_C> thanks
[07:33] <VViki> how do I download from multiple sources using wget?
[07:33] <vanRijn> ricanelite: yes. what's your question?
[07:33] <stonarmusic>  'sudo chown username /media/cdrom0/*' didn't seem to work
[07:34] <hammad> how do i get gnome or make my desktop gnome if i installed as kde
[07:34] <hammad> anyone know?
[07:34] <lupine_85> cdroms are readonly, and iso doesn't support permissions in any case
[07:34] <boink> you installed kubuntu?
[07:34] <hammad> i think so
[07:35] <hammad> kde
[07:35] <boink> ubuntu is just gnome
[07:35] <lupine_85> modify the mode line in /etc/fstab to include uid=1000,gid=1000
[07:35] <martalli> kubuntu = kde version of ubuntu
[07:35] <ricanelite> Okay, when I type in startmol I get this message No video modes have been configured. Please run 'molvconfig' and then when I type in sudo molvconfig my monitor goes black and I have to do CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to my linux desktop
[07:35] <stefg> seamus7: it's hard to troubleshoot the system if you can't get online with it.. there seems something really borked if you got xubuntu-splash on a ubuntu-install with kubuntu-desktop. Probably it's just a tiny thing, but i'd need a look
[07:35] <D_C> lovely my ubuntu crashed
[07:35] <stefg> Oh, my dear!!!
[07:36] <boink> don't computers sux?
[07:36] <seamus7> stefg: that's what I was afraid of ... do you think a reinstall would perhaps solve this?
[07:36] <martalli> hammad:  I think what you want to do is install the ubuntu-desktop package
[07:36] <stonarmusic> lupine_85 - where you replying to  me? modify fstab?
[07:36] <stefg> seamus7: I'm pretty sure, because your hardware has proven to work
[07:36] <martalli> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[07:37] <lupine_85> stonarmusic: yes
[07:37] <pmjdebruijn> boink, not really
[07:37] <stefg> !w32codec
[07:37] <vanRijn> ricanelite: hm. what machine do you have?
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <stefg> !w32codecs
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:38] <ricanelite> I have a Mac mini running a G4
[07:38] <seamus7> stefg: is it relatively painless to do a reinstall since I have my root in its own partition? will all my settings from apps like Amarok and Firefox be automatically checked for and taken by my fresh system?
[07:38] <steveire> Hey, I'm trying to install this >>> http://kionjb.cvs.sourceforge.net/kionjb/kionjb/. There's no ./configure script. Should I run autogen?
[07:38] <stefg> seamus7: if you tell the installer what your /home partition is it should take your settings
[07:39] <Lam_> what's the difference between using aptitude and apt-get via terminal?
[07:39] <catalytic> hi all
[07:39] <boink> Lam_ none, really. both work fine
[07:39] <seamus7> stefg: oh that's what I was hoping.
[07:39] <catalytic> well i finally got around to installing the java jdk
[07:39] <Lam_> boink: is there a difference though? i'm wondering what the pros and cons are
[07:39] <catalytic> but it keeps wanting to update my kernel
[07:40] <catalytic> Remove the running kernel image (not recommended) [No] 
[07:40] <catalytic> what is the easiest way to do this without everything exploding?
[07:41] <jrib> !info kionjb
[07:41] <ubotu> Package kionjb does not exist in any distro I know
[07:42] <jrib> steveire: there is probably a README or INSTALL file that explains what you need to do.  kionjb is in edgy by the way (so you'll get it in 2 weeks)
[07:42] <steveire> that's odd. kionjb is in the repos
[07:42] <steveire> INSTALL tells me to run configure
[07:42] <catalytic> i have 11 broken packages and one of them is my kernel
[07:42] <steveire> README tells me to see INSTALL for instruction
[07:42] <catalytic> how do i repair these?
[07:42] <jrib> steveire: run autogen then, or download the edgy pacakge and rebuild it
[07:44] <D_C> stefg i saved it as .sh and when i open it, it just opens it in gedit?
[07:44] <Lam_> catalytic: if i get your explanation correctly, i would update my kernel by installing a new kernel while having the old one intact.  reboot, and then rmeove the old kernel if you want after the new one loads
[07:44] <seamus7> stefg: thanks for all of your help.
[07:44] <micahcowan> D_C, chmod +x <file>
[07:44] <stefg> D_C: chmod +x myscript.sh
[07:44] <aleon> HI    ANYONE HELP ME
[07:44] <stefg> !CAPS
[07:44] <steveire> jrib: on running it, Unknown host anoncvs.kde.org.
[07:44] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:44] <D_C> so i cant just have a file on my desktop that i can just click to run the script?
[07:45] <micahcowan> !ask
[07:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:45] <micahcowan> D_C, if you run the command stefg and I gave you, it should do that.
[07:45] <HLM> puts on mind reading cap
[07:45] <catalytic> hi lam_ i ran thtough the jdk installation, and it came up with the warning of wanting to remove the current running kernel
[07:45] <steveire> I think I give up for the moment.
[07:45] <jrib> steveire: where are you grabbing it from?
[07:45] <jrib> I'll try here
[07:45] <catalytic> and it advised to say no, i said no
[07:45] <aleon> WHERE THERE IS A SPANISH ROOM
[07:45] <micahcowan> !ubuntu-es
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <micahcowan> !es
[07:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:46] <stefg> !es
[07:46] <Lam_> catalytic: yeah, that's stupid. never try to do that.  just install a new kernel, reboot, and install jdk after that
[07:46] <micahcowan> aleon, please don't shout, either here or in there.
[07:46] <aleon> OK
[07:46] <steveire> jrib: The link I gave. cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@kionjb.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/kionjb co -P kionjb
[07:46] <hammad> puppy
[07:46] <aleon> #EDUBUNTU-ES
[07:46] <catalytic> is there a way i can fix the current broken kernel package
[07:46] <znull> any docs about "setup a dns transfer site"
[07:47] <catalytic> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on AMD K7.
[07:47] <catalytic> is the one that is broken
[07:47] <Lam_> catalytic: you can try runnin synaptic and reinstalling the current kernel package, but i wouldn't recommend that either given the fact that you're running the kernel at the same time
[07:47] <micahcowan> aleon: type "/join #edubuntu-es"
[07:47] <catalytic> do i have any other options?
[07:48] <simtower> does anyone know what exactly the phpmyadmin package does?
[07:48] <Lam_> catalytic: ubuntu has packages for 2.6.15+ kernels. why don't you upgrade to one of those?
[07:48] <catalytic> i just wanted to install the jdk
[07:48] <padan> sim, gives you a web admin interface to managing mysql and its databases
[07:48] <catalytic> its what wanted to update my kernel
[07:48] <catalytic> i had no idea it was going to do that
[07:48] <simtower> padan: but how is it accessed? there is nothing listening on port 80
[07:48] <D_C> micahcowan i just put the command in the terminal and it still opens in gedit
[07:48] <catalytic> do i just search for that in synaptic?
[07:48] <padan> its probably a custom port
[07:49] <padan> go look on phpmyadmin website
[07:49] <stefg> catalytic: ain't that a brilliant opportunity for a dist-upgrade?
[07:49] <padan> or look in the phpmyadmin config files
[07:49] <Lam_> catalytic: yeah you can.
[07:49] <catalytic> i guess it would be, if i knew what i was doing
[07:49] <catalytic> :)
[07:49] <_lemsx1_> anybody using shorewall?
[07:49] <jrib> steveire: any reason you don't use a stable tarball?  I think kde uses svn now so that's why cvs would fail in the script
[07:49] <catalytic> ok, thanks Ill try
[07:49] <_lemsx1_> shorewall stopped working for me on Edgy
[07:50] <padan> stefg, also i believe it runs through apache or another webserver
[07:50] <padan> i dont think it has its own webserver
[07:51] <shriphani> guys is unix dead ?
[07:51] <micahcowan> D_C: I just tried it... apparently, you have to refresh your desktop afterwards, or it doesn't realize it had +x set. click on the desktop and hit F5.
[07:51] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, why? classic unix is dying indeed... but true unix is more alive than ever
[07:51] <steveire> jrib: Make failed on the stable. I emailed the list, and they said use cvs. I guess it should have worked, but it didn't. I'm giving up for a day.
[07:51] <shriphani> pmjdebruijn, was looking around for it
[07:51] <micahcowan> shriphani, what do you think? You're on a busy *nix support group. Anyway, the question/discussion is offtopic, so please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:52] <shriphani> ok micahcowan
[07:52] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, looking around for what?
[07:52] <lostboyz> hi how do i make the fonts bigger?
[07:52] <shriphani> an os to run on an ancient 486
[07:52] <lostboyz> the fonts i see now are really really small
[07:52] <pmjdebruijn> lostboyz, kde?gnome?
[07:52] <jrib> steveire: alright well my suggestion would be to just edit the autogen.sh to use svn to pull the kde src it needs, it'll probably work then (autogen should work anyway)
[07:53] <lostboyz> xubuntu actually
[07:53] <lostboyz> xfce
[07:53] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, it's not worth the pain and suffering
[07:53] <D_C> ah seems to ask if i want to run it now micahcowan :> cheers
[07:53] <martalli> xubuntu might be a little too much for an ancient 486 even
[07:53] <micahcowan> shriphani, to my knowledge any modern Unix system can still do that, including Linux: but I wouldn't know if you can count on any one particular /distro/ to support that. Xubuntu might.
[07:53] <martalli> how much memory do you have on the 486 box?
[07:53] <D_C> script doesnt work though, probably me putting it in wrong
[07:53] <peter77> hi, I need java 1.5, how do I upgrade from 1.4?
[07:53] <micahcowan> (I meant, any modern /free/ Unix systems: otherwise, i can think of some counterexamples...)
[07:54] <shriphani> martalli, its a small drive
[07:54] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, any modern unix will run like crap on a 486... period
[07:54] <shriphani> i have no idea so
[07:54] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, ditch that crap...
[07:54] <martalli> shriphani - actually, I mean how much ram
[07:54] <_lemsx1_> ok, the problem with shorewall is --icmp-type fragmentation-needed in the macros for AllowICMPs and Ping
[07:54] <pmjdebruijn> anything below a Pentium-II is not worth the trouble
[07:54] <shriphani> martalli, no idea about that as well
[07:54] <highneko> peter77: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[07:54] <highneko> peter77: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:54] <peter77> cool, thanx
[07:54] <Lam_> if i have an old pentium 2, shoudl i just install xubuntu on it?
[07:54] <Zaggynl> anyone has a .deb for sancho? it's a frontend to mldonkey
[07:54] <micahcowan> peter77, try sun-java5-jdk
[07:54] <martalli> The only gui's that are likely to work ar epuppy, damn small linux, austrumi, etc.
[07:55] <Zaggynl> can't find anything on google, the sancho website appears to be down
[07:55] <micahcowan> (if you actually did want the jdk instead of jre)
[07:55] <martalli> They are not the most complete system
[07:55] <shriphani> hmm i might try just command line on it
[07:55] <stefg> Lam_: how much ram has the old box?
[07:55] <Lam_> stefg: 256MB
[07:55] <drivera> I just bought the Ubuntu CD 6.0 :)
[07:55] <highneko> peter77: Yea, what he said. If azureus you probably want jre.
[07:55] <martalli> You might be able to run a simple command line "the server installation" of ubuntu, though
[07:55] <ArrenLex> martalli: those are distros, not guis.
[07:55] <pmjdebruijn> martalli, on a 486... even those won't be tollerable
[07:55] <stefg> Lam_: then xubuntu seems perfect
[07:55] <JavaDeveloper> Anyone using Openoffice 2.0.4 RC? cuz I used it on Windows and it's really way faster and I wanna try it on my linux, anyone?
[07:56] <Lam_> stefg: ok thanks
[07:56] <pmjdebruijn> JavaDeveloper, it's available in Edgy... but font rendering is broken on Edgy
[07:56] <martalli> arrenlex - I know they are distros, but if you wanted a gui, that would be the way to go.  Mainly,running a simple window manager instead of a desktop environ
[07:56] <JavaDeveloper> pmjdebruijn: so current dapper doesn't have repo for it?
[07:56] <stefg> JavaDeveloper: hey just wait a couple of days. it will be in the repos after proper packaging and testing
[07:56] <ArrenLex> martalli: why not just do a server install of ubuntu and apt-get install icewm?
[07:56] <peter77> couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[07:56] <JavaDeveloper> stefg: hahaha...thanks...cuz I really can't wait for it...
[07:56] <shriphani> stefg, i remember an xfce panel addon that makes the os run slower than a windows installation getting thrashed around by 10 trojans
[07:56] <martalli> Arrenlex - that's fairly reasonable
[07:56] <ArrenLex> !sun-java5-jre
[07:56] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[07:57] <JavaDeveloper> peter77: did you actually add your universal repo?
[07:57] <dgcass> hola
[07:57] <dgcass> alguien habla espaol?
[07:57] <ArrenLex> peter77: multiverse repo
[07:57] <ArrenLex> !es
[07:57] <Lam_> !es
[07:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:57] <martalli> arrenlex - I think puppy & dsl are even more stripped down in the kernel, but a 486 would be a challenge for anything
[07:57] <Lam_> damn
[07:57] <D_C2> #!/bin/sh , cd /home/daniel/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Valve/Steam/ , wine Steam.exe , exit 0
[07:57] <dgcass> sry
[07:57] <pmjdebruijn> JavaDeveloper, no
[07:57] <D_C2> anything wrong with that?
[07:57] <Wamty> how to set net in linux ubuntu 6?
[07:58] <Wamty> ip addr?
[07:58] <lupine_85> martalli: not for minix ;)
[07:58] <peter77> oops fresh install :-)
[07:58] <JavaDeveloper> pmjdebruijn: too bad...have to wait then
[07:58] <shriphani> Wamty, your objecive ?
[07:58] <pmjdebruijn> why does nobody get that newer software won't be added to an already existing repo
[07:58] <shriphani> lupine_85, i may try minix
[07:58] <Wamty> ifconfig ?
[07:58] <JavaDeveloper> peter77: enable your mutiverse
[07:58] <peter77> done, still can't find
[07:58] <martalli> shriphani - that sounds reasonable.  What are you planning to do with that 486 anyway?  That's probably the more pertinent question
[07:58] <shriphani> Wamty, u could use the gui network-admin
[07:59] <shriphani> martalli, play around
[07:59] <JavaDeveloper> peter77: after you finish adding, did you do apt-get update?
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> How can I get the hareware address of something by IP?
[07:59] <fernando> does anyone knows what this means [4294667.296000]  ACPI: unable to locate RSPD
[07:59] <lupine_85> tonyyarusso: that's ARP
[07:59] <stefg> D_C2: you need of course new lines, not a comma to separate commands. (and you you shouldn't waste so much time with Halflife :-) )
[07:59] <shriphani> cuz its like my dad's and he doesnt use it
[07:59] <martalli> shriphani - there's always something fun to try if you have the time =)
[07:59] <peter77> doing now
[07:59] <D_C2> as if not stefg  :P
[07:59] <shriphani> is 15
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> lupine_85: Perfect.
[08:00] <shriphani> and i gotta tell the kubuntu guys about an update that ruins konqueror
[08:00] <martalli> shriphani - it would be a perfect platform for learning the basics of programming and the posix environment
[08:00] <D_C2> ahh works now stefg XD
[08:00] <JavaDeveloper> anyone has good tools that could monitor system resource and state like CPU usage and others and it could be embedded into gnome panel? cuz I tried Gkrellm, it isn't likely embedded into the panel
[08:01] <shriphani> martalli, i would love to learn how to code
[08:01] <stefg> JavaDeveloper: have a look at gdesklets
[08:01] <martalli> You could always try installing the server edition of ubuntu, and using cli tools like vi, nano, along with gcc
[08:01] <shriphani> i am a noob at coding
[08:01] <JavaDeveloper> stefg: o...yeah...forgot that...thank you
[08:01] <D_C> lol, now steam has crashed ubuntu yet again
[08:02] <pmjdebruijn> steam?
[08:02] <martalli> shriphani - you're the right age to start leanring.  Get a book and start plowing through.  C++, python, shell programming.  Do they teach programmking at school?
[08:02] <shriphani> martalli, no
[08:02] <D_C> a game program for windows pmjdebruijn
[08:02] <shriphani> i am doing python tho
[08:02] <brussel> Does anybody have a good reference on how to install postgres into a dapper lamp server?
[08:02] <mick_linux> if i have a package that i'd like to install w/ a custom configuration - how can i apt-get the src and make necessary changes before installing it?
[08:02] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, try Python or Java or Mono/C#, those are good entry level programming languages
[08:02] <mick_linux> like ./configure for apt - so to speak
[08:03] <shriphani> yeh almost everyone told me python is good
[08:03] <D_C> did anyone else get invited into jewbuntu :/
[08:03] <pmjdebruijn> D_C, ah HalfLife etc.
[08:03] <shriphani> so i am learning python now
[08:03] <D_C> yeah
[08:03] <shriphani> D_C, me
[08:03] <jrib> mick_linux: edit debian/rules, the use dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc.  That's what I do
[08:03] <lupine_85> pascal is the best first language ;)
[08:03] <D_C> opened fine yesterday, now it crashes ubuntu everytime i open it now
[08:03] <Chrisms> Hey, I'm a complete noob, can smoeone please tell me how to install from binaries, or where i can find the information out?
[08:03] <martalli> shriphani:  Damn but that sucks, they taugght programming in my school on trs-80's  Well, get yourself a book, or check on out forom the library and get started.  Python is used frequently and is object-oriented.  I'm sure you could have a great flame fest over what is the best first language, but any one will do
[08:03] <pmjdebruijn> lupine_85, not really...
[08:03] <lupine_85> python's whitespace-as-syntax is worrying
[08:03] <lupine_85> ...really
[08:03] <lupine_85> well, object pascal
[08:04] <peter77> ok it's started the install, a liscence agreement has appeared, I've scrolled down to the bottom using the arrow keys, how do I accept?
[08:04] <pmjdebruijn> lupine_85, it's a nice syntax, but not fully object oriented
[08:04] <jrib> Chrisms: generally you want to use the repositories instead.  It is a lot easier.  Do you know about synaptic and apt?
[08:04] <lupine_85> object pascal is pretty close
[08:04] <pmjdebruijn> lupine_85, object pascal syntax is horrid
[08:04] <shriphani> martalli, i would love a HLL to teach me the basics
[08:04] <martalli> (But ((personally) to me) lisp has too many ()'s)
[08:04] <peter77> oh done
[08:04] <pmjdebruijn> therefore Java/C#
[08:04] <pmjdebruijn> lupine_85, I would prefer anything to C++
[08:04] <lupine_85> I prefer visual basic to java...
[08:04] <shriphani> i like python cuz of its simplicity print"hello world"
[08:04] <pmjdebruijn> rofl!!
[08:04] <Chrisms> jrip: i'm trying to install PHP and mysql, i have apache installed. But there are no repositories?  I instlled apache a while ago using binaries, compileingthem myself, but i forget how
[08:04] <shriphani> and it c
[08:04] <lupine_85> never tried C#
[08:05] <jrib> Chrisms: all of those things are in the repositories
[08:05] <lupine_85> !lamp
[08:05] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[08:05] <pmjdebruijn> Mono/C# is very nice
[08:05] <jrib> ubotu: tell Chrisms about synaptic
[08:05] <shriphani> its like #include <stdio.h>
[08:05] <Chrisms> How come apt-get doesn't find them
[08:05] <martalli> My first language was VIC 20 BASIC...I think any start is a good start.  Almost anythiung is better than Basic, and whatever language you learn, you'll need to learn twenty more in a career of programming
[08:05] <shriphani> Chrisms, is it a fresh install ?
[08:05] <lupine_85> C=64 BASIC is cool :)
[08:05] <jrib> Chrisms: see the page ubotu just sent, but make sure you have enabled universe and multiverse
[08:05] <jrib> ubotu: tell Chrisms about repos
[08:05] <pmjdebruijn> Chrisms, installing from source will most likely have broken your system
[08:05] <lupine_85> just be careful where you poke ;)
[08:06] <shriphani> i have an ancient version of brian w kernighan's ansi c
[08:06] <Chrisms> It's a fresh install now, i jsut reforamted last night. And i havn't changed my source list thing? A freind gave me a list of souces... but i lost it of course
[08:06] <peter77> java upgraded, thanx
[08:06] <lob22> do you guys still give out them free cds
[08:06] <micahcowan> lupine_85, have you checked out FreeBASIC (available for Linux, but not packaged for Debian/Ubuntu)
[08:06] <shriphani> Chrisms, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:06] <Zaggynl> hmm, sancho + mldonkey
[08:06] <shriphani> wait
[08:06] <lupine_85> nope, I use fpc/lazarus for most things these days
[08:06] <micahcowan> seems to be compatible with all the good old BASICs.
[08:06] <shriphani> not vi, gedit
[08:07] <jokoon> what is the best programming platform to build c++ programs on ubuntu ?
[08:07] <martalli> Shriphani - even with a cli/server install, you have all the basic's for programming.  gcc can do several languages, from c to fortan, python is just another package to download.  cli editors are very advanced...some would claim emacs is even bloated =)
[08:07] <lob22> anyone tell me if u guys still give out them free cd
[08:07] <shriphani> lob22, yup
[08:07] <jrib> lob22: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[08:07] <Chrisms> shriphani: now what?
[08:07] <lupine_85> anything with context editing is good
[08:07] <pmjdebruijn> jokoon, g++ ?
[08:07] <martalli> lob22 shipit is still avail for the 6.06 version
[08:07] <lupine_85> erm, context highlighting
[08:07] <shriphani> Chrisms, uncomment the sources
[08:07] <jokoon> thanks pmjdebruijn
[08:08] <shriphani> i.e. remove the # in front of those deb http:// blah blah
[08:08] <micahcowan> shriphani, if your K&R C book is actually the ANSI one (2nd ed), then it's still great today. C's gone through another standard since then, but you really can't rely much on C99 support for the most part: K&R's book is still one of the very best.
[08:08] <siriusnova> lol i like that quit message
[08:08] <Chrisms> how do i uncomment them...? it's just beeping at me
[08:08] <siriusnova> "Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard, be evil. Evil prevails."
[08:08] <siriusnova> hehehe
[08:08] <shriphani> micahcowan, so you say i must start with c instead of python ?
[08:08] <martalli> siriusnova - don't forget "recant on your deathbed and give to charity is your will"
[08:09] <siriusnova> lol
[08:09] <micahcowan> shriphani, no, just commenting on your mention of having the book. I'd definitely start with python.
[08:09] <jokoon> what is python ?
[08:09] <ArrenLex> jokoon: python is an interpreted object-oriented programming language.
[08:09] <Chrisms> okay, it fianlyl stoped beepign and let me delte the #. so i want to do universe, and bacports? or jsut universe?
[08:09] <Kingsqueak> http://www.kingsqueak.org/stuff/pyjaxperuby.png
[08:09] <martalli> shriphani - I would skip c and just go to c++ if that is what you want to do.  Honestly, whatever you learn now, there will be more languages to learn later.  Now you just want to learn about programming itself.
[08:10] <Hoagie> Hi everyone. Was hoping someone here could answer a question or two :) Thinking of getting a laptop and slapping linux on it, and several people recommended Ubuntu to me.
[08:10] <jokoon> tell jokoon about python
[08:10] <martalli> sorting techniques, arrays, data structures, interacting with hardware and whatnot.
[08:10] <jokoon> ubotu : tell jokoon about python
[08:10] <shriphani> martalli, so you say c++ ?
[08:10] <ArrenLex> !ask
[08:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:10] <Kingsqueak> PyJaXPeRuby is the new wave
[08:10] <jokoon> ubotu knows so many things :)))
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knows so many things :))) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <jokoon> okokok
[08:11] <Hoagie> Ehh. Sorry. Was mostly wondering how customisable the interface etc is. I've been using windows since forever, and the bleedin' update thing pushed me over the edge last night.
[08:11] <shriphani> !ubotu
[08:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:11] <martalli> shriphani -I'm a doctor, not a programmer, but my impression is that C++ is a little more esoteric, but also where all the heavy lifting is rioght now.  Python is a little more elegant but not usedas frequently right now.  Since python is an interpreted language, I think it is better for learning, though
[08:12] <martalli> There is nothing more frustrating than trying to debug code just to get the damn thing to compile
[08:12] <Hoagie> I might just be blind, but I can't find much on it >_>
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: if you want to explore ubuntu, just burn yourself a live-cd! Then you can pop the disc in the CD drive and it will boot to ubuntu without touching your hard drive. When you finish exploring, just take it out, reboot, and all is as you left it!
[08:12] <micahcowan> I think both C and Python are probably represented _much_ better in the Linux community than they are more generally.
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: all the default Ubuntu installation CDs are liveCDs.
[08:13] <Kingsqueak> I regret not having learned C before getting into interpreted languages
[08:13] <martalli> micahcowan - Python is certainly used much more in the open source community  It's really a darling of the OSS community actually.
[08:14] <Kingsqueak> mostly because C forces you to do things more logically where many interpreted languages allow for some reall awful code that will still work without you knowing it's a bad idea
[08:14] <martalli> I think C is really used for a lot of stuff - programming for the PocketPC for instance is mostly done with MS's C/C++/C# environments
[08:14] <micahcowan> martalli, well, of the Ubotu community especially. Perl might also qualify as "a darling of the OSS community", but among Ubuntu developers, it may possibly take a backseat to Python.
[08:14] <martalli> Are you a programmer Kingsqueak?
[08:14] <Kingsqueak> no, just a sysadmin
[08:14] <martalli> Ahh, much closer to the whole thing than me
[08:14] <Kingsqueak> but I do systems programming from time to time
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: as to your question, the interface is infinitely customisable. For starters, ubuntu offers three flavours with different desktops - kubuntu (KDE desktop), ubuntu (GNOME desktop), xubuntu (XFCE desktop -- lightweight for old computers). Both KDE and GNOME themselves are infinitely customisable, and if you don't like them you can install any window manager you like --  fluxbox, icewm, twm, etc.
[08:15] <martalli> Hey, if you have a 486 running the cli, take some time to learn shel scripting too,
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Someone tell me if that cut off, the ending was supposed to be "fluxbox, icewm, twm, etc."
[08:15] <micahcowan> A lot of important Unix code is still in C, and still written from scratch in C. Especially command-line programs.
[08:15] <martalli> Even I have written shell scripts (and I'm a doctor =)
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: I suggest you break out wikipedia and look up articles for KDE, GNOME, and XFCE.
[08:15] <Kingsqueak> interpreted languages are very nice, Python in particular is a bit more sane , but I have my regrets for not having learned to program the old way for purposes of having better logic when I sit down to write something
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: or google image search,
[08:15] <ArrenLex> .
[08:16] <Hoagie> ArrenLex: Will do! :) Thanks a lot for the help!
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: But remember that all of these desktops are a LOT more customisable than Explorer, so don't think you're tied down to what you see -- you can make it look like anything!
[08:16] <brussel> Does anybody have a good url on how to install postgres into a dapper lamp server? If so please paste it here.
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: But again, I strongly recommend burning yourself a kubuntu and ubuntu livecd and seeing if they suit you and which you like more.
[08:16] <Lam_> ArrenLex: mind if i ask how you got your alias?
[08:17] <ArrenLex> Lam: Alias? You mean, ArrenLex?
[08:17] <Lam_> ArrenLex: yeah. i'm in need of a new email alias
[08:17] <ArrenLex> I'm confused. What are you asking?
[08:18] <Lam_> ArrenLex: i'm just curious as to what the thought process people put into aliases, and i find your interesting
[08:18] <Morrowyn> heya, i have an amd x2 proc, and when i look for a smp kernel i only see 2.6.xx UP/SMP when i use this one, i only have 1 cpu in my proc/cpuinfo any ideas on this?
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Oh. It's my writing pseudonym. It's based on my name -- Alex.
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Arren Lex.
[08:18] <Lam_> that's pretty neat lol. thanks
[08:18] <nicky> how do "newest CVS version of glitz to get this to work with Nvidia cards that lack Pixel Shaders"
[08:19] <Hoagie> ArrenLex: Thanks a lot :) I will! *Tips cap* I'd best get to accidentally blowing up my CD burner then.
[08:19] <nicky> how do i newest CVS version of glitz to get this to work with Nvidia cards that lack Pixel Shaders
[08:19] <Hoagie> Toodles.
[08:19] <brussel> It sure would be nice if they came out with a LAPP install, Linux, Apache, Postgresql, and Php and get rid of that mysql stuff
[08:19] <bog-bog> guide me to istall ubuntu
[08:19] <nicky> how do i "newest CVS version of glitz to get this to work with Nvidia cards that lack Pixel Shaders"
[08:19] <nicky> how do i get "newest CVS version of glitz to get this to work with Nvidia cards that lack Pixel Shaders"
[08:19] <bog-bog> expeciay to set root pass
[08:19] <Kingsqueak> brussel you look at the docs on the postgres site yet?
[08:19] <Kingsqueak> they have rather in-depth docs
[08:20] <brussel> kingsqueak, no i haven't actually
[08:20] <ArrenLex> bog-bog: ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default -- use sudo to make admin changes. Do you need one for some reason?
[08:20] <nicky> guys, how do i get the newest cvs version of glitz???
[08:20] <Morrowyn> nvm, works now
[08:20] <brussel> kingsqueak, do they cover ubuntu in particular?
[08:20] <Kingsqueak> it's a bit ponderous to get through as it's nearly a full book but it's all there.  Postgres is different enough from mysql, it's worth the time to read it
[08:20] <nicky> guys, how do i get the newest cvs version of glitz???
[08:20] <ArrenLex> !repeat
[08:20] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:21] <Kingsqueak> there isn't a ton that would be ubuntu specific really, it's mostly the difference between mysql and postgres that you are likely stumped with, it's quite different
[08:21] <nicky> anybody know what glitz is??
[08:21] <Kingsqueak> fwiw, honestly, I'm not too smooth with postgres yet
[08:21] <Morrowyn> other stuff is broken though :(
[08:21] <brussel> kingsqueak, I've used postgresql and oracle in the past, never mysql and all I want to do is get rid of the mysql and replace it with postgres so I can get to a state I'm comfortable with
[08:22] <anon32> how do I add edgy repos to Ubuntu?
[08:22] <nicky> guys, i need help
[08:22] <nicky> a quick question, please help this ubuntu newby
[08:22] <Kingsqueak> brussel basically just apt-get install postgres and it's all set to configure
[08:22] <nicky> how do i get the newest cvs version of glitz
[08:22] <Kingsqueak> the thing that is 'missing' is how to setup the initial accounts in postgres
[08:23] <Hallonen> nicky: try google if your not getting any answers here...
[08:23] <roduku> is tar.gz the right installer package type for ubuntu?
[08:23] <nicky> i didn't get anything in google
[08:23] <Kingsqueak> nick, google is your friend -> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/glitz
[08:23] <nicky> which is why i'm here
[08:23] <brussel> kingsqueak, hmmm... I'll give that a try.
[08:23] <nicky> thanks kings
[08:23] <anon32> roduku, no. tar.gzs are source code
[08:23] <Kingsqueak> 'glitz homepage' got me that from google
[08:24] <roduku> what do I need to be an installer?
[08:24] <jokoon> What if I ask here if there is some nice version of GCC for Windows
[08:24] <anon32> roduku, deb
[08:24] <anon32> someone recommend a GUI download manager?
[08:24] <roduku> anon: thanks a lot... that answerws a lot of questions
[08:25] <anon32> !windows > jokoon
[08:25] <anon32> jokoon, but because I'm nice, I'll tell you to look up mingw and cygwin
[08:25] <jokoon> thanks you
[08:25] <mick_linux> anyone know the what the devel libraries for gtk 2.0 are called (i tried looking w/ apt-cache -- wow that is a lot to tread through)
[08:26] <anon32> mick_linux, libgtk2.0-dev
[08:26] <mick_linux> anon32, thanks :D
[08:26] <anon32> someone recommend a GUI download manager?
[08:26] <GortiZ> d4x
[08:27] <GortiZ> anon32: d4x
[08:27] <pmjdebruijn> anon32, what's wrong with Firefox' download manager?
[08:27] <anon32> GortiZ, do I have to build it from source?
[08:27] <anon32> pmjdebruijn, because I have dialup and because Ubuntu's firefox sucks ass
[08:27] <brussel> Anybody, how do I rotate through windows on gnome similar to hitting alt-tab-tab-tab on windows?
[08:27] <GortiZ> anon32: no it is in the repository
[08:27] <Kingsqueak> anon32 jigdo
[08:27] <pmjdebruijn> anon32, dial-up.... damn!
[08:27] <ArrenLex> brussel: alt-tab doesn't work for you in Gnome?
[08:28] <GortiZ> you can install it by synaptic or aptitude or apt-get... whatever you prefer
[08:28] <anon32> GortiZ, thanks, I'm getting it
[08:28] <GortiZ> ok
[08:28] <anon32> yay... much better than Aria 1.0
[08:28] <brussel> ArrenLex, alt-tab just bounces me between the top two windows
[08:28] <ArrenLex> brussel: even if you hold alt?
[08:28] <brussel> ArrenLex yes
[08:28] <ArrenLex> o_O
[08:29] <anon32> how do I add edgy repos to Ubuntu?
[08:30] <ArrenLex> anon32: edit your sources.list and copy the line for the repos you want, changing dapper to edgy
[08:30] <ArrenLex> Or just add this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse universe
[08:30] <anon32> ArrenLex, thanks
[08:30] <absenth> is there a how-to to get ATI X850 cards working with accelleration on Dapper?
[08:30] <anon32> ArrenLex, where's sources.list? /etc?
[08:30] <sureshot> hey all i used sudo mkfs.ext3 to format a drive now a can write to it on a sata to usb converter did i take right away from my user account
[08:31] <ArrenLex>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:31] <sv452> hi all
[08:31] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:31] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:31] <brussel> When I hit alt-tab I see the various windows. Hitting tab again just doesn't work like in windows. I have even tried hitting alt-tab-left-arrow.
[08:31] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, I don't understand your question
[08:31] <anon32> absenth, X850s are supported by the default free ATI drivers
[08:31] <elriah> Hi all.  Is there a virtual package that installs all the required development tools to compile software?  I installed gcc and make and kernel headers but still having problems...
[08:31] <ArrenLex> brussel: I don't run gnome so I can't help you. Sorry.
[08:32] <absenth> anon32: do they install easily?
[08:32] <Kingsqueak> brussel just hold down alt as you hit tab I think is what you want
[08:32] <pmjdebruijn> anon32, I wouldn't call them free
[08:32] <pmjdebruijn> anon32, ever had to pay for a driver?
[08:32] <anon32> elriah, apt-get builddep packagename covers ones in synaptic
[08:32] <Kingsqueak> brussel ctrl-alt-<larrow/rarrow> cycles desktops in GNOME also
[08:32] <absenth> open vs closed source really doesn't interest me.
[08:32] <sureshot> i cant writ to my drive i use sudo mkfs.ext3 does sudo own the drive so my user account cant writ to it
[08:32] <ArrenLex> rlriah: build-essential
[08:32] <ArrenLex> elirah *
[08:33] <sv452> i have a small startup issue - i have two files in .trash-user on a fat32 partition and as soon as i boot up i get a fat fschk or something and ubuntu refuses to boot - i tried mouting it in the live cd ubuntu but i can't delete files only view them ... i am right now using the live cd to at least get connected -
[08:33] <mick_linux> i'm trying to use talk to talk to another person on a machine, i get:
[08:33] <mick_linux> [ Error on read from talk daemon: Connection refused. Press any key
[08:33] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, your still not clear...
[08:33] <anon32> absenth, they're called linux-restricted-modules-386/686... you should have them already
[08:33] <mick_linux> how do i start the talk daemon?
[08:33] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, but sudo should work
[08:33] <anon32> sureshot, yes
[08:33] <mick_linux> /etc/init.d/talk doesn't exist
[08:33] <SAM_theman> wow
[08:33] <SAM_theman> This sucks
[08:33] <sureshot> how do i get user rights back to my drive
[08:33] <anon32> sureshot, you need to chmod 777 (mount point)
[08:33] <brussel> The ctl-alt-left arrow allows me to select desktops in gnome
[08:34] <brussel> the alt-tab-tab-tab isn't working as expected though.
[08:34] <tristano> hello, i have a problem with cd burning, when i try to  make audio cd with mp3 files, it says me that misses the plugin. what package should i to apt-get
[08:34] <tristano> ?
[08:34] <Kingsqueak> brussel odd, you are holding down alt the whole time right?
[08:34] <Shish> "it" says?
[08:34] <ArrenLex> tristano: using what application?
[08:34] <anon32> !restrictedformats > tristano
[08:34] <sureshot> anon32 thanks man that it the problem still a noob at this any one that has a list of command they use for cheat cheats would you send them to me
[08:34] <digi_cam> digital camera problems, i took 2 photos today, ubuntu detects the drive but 1 of the photos it is displaying as a photo that i have taken months ago, not the current one from today, any ideas?
[08:34] <anon32> by the way, mp3 sucks ass
[08:34] <tristano> ArrenLex, gnomebaker and k3b
[08:35] <elriah> Thanks, ArrenLex.
[08:35] <sureshot> anon32 does sudo need to be used
[08:35] <yock> Is there an ubuntu package for checkinstall?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> tristano: for k3b, just install the libk3b2-mp3 package. Can't help you with gnomebaker; don't use it.
[08:35] <sv452> anybody ??
[08:35] <tristano> anon32, already installed restricted formats
[08:35] <anon32> sureshot, you can get a list of commands by doing ls /usr/bin and ls /sbin
[08:35] <anon32> sureshot, yes
[08:35] <yock> More to the point, what happened to the ubuntu checkinstall package.
[08:35] <yock> ?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> yock: of course. When you want to find a package, just run "apt-cache search <package>" to see matches
[08:35] <Kingsqueak> apt-cache search checkinstall    yes there is
[08:35] <yock> ArrenLex: that returns nothing
[08:35] <ArrenLex> I don't know, what happened?
[08:36] <ArrenLex> !checkinstall
[08:36] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[08:36] <yock> might be in *verse?
[08:36] <sv452> how can i make ubuntu skip fat fsck at startup so i can start ubuntu normaly and delete the offending files ???
[08:36] <ArrenLex> yock: it's in universe
[08:36] <yock> ArrenLex: Thanks.
[08:36] <tristano> ArrenLex, thanks a thousand!
[08:36] <ArrenLex> sv453: what if you just press ctrl+c when it starts checking?
[08:37] <anon32> tristano, gnomebaker is audio CDs, and if you right-click k3b, it'll recommend more packages
[08:37] <rsk> ! binary-drivers
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binary-drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <anon32> gnomebaker = data CDs*
[08:37] <sureshot> anon32 dont want to deep into it but i dont understand the man pages very well my brain is not wired write LOL that is why i ask that way you have your won explanation with them i hope
[08:37] <anon32> !ati
[08:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:37] <freakabcd> hi all
[08:37] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:37] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:37] <sureshot> anon32 a.d.d and a few other problems
[08:37] <Kingsqueak> sv452 change the last field in /etc/fstab to '0' if it is set to 1 or 2
[08:38] <brussel> Kingsqueak, yes, holding down on the alt the whole time.
[08:38] <freakabcd> any ideas for how i can use a logitech quickcam webcam on dapper?
[08:38] <anon32> sureshot, um.... can you rewrite that? the bad grammar confused me, sorry
[08:38] <freakabcd> i read somewhere that it is supported out of the box or something
[08:38] <Kingsqueak> brussel odd , that works here
[08:38] <sv452> that the thing i can't boot up ubuntu so i can't change anything !! i can only bootup with the live cd
[08:39] <ArrenLex> sv452: can you just comment out the fat32 partition in your /etc/fstab, then?
[08:39] <anon32> can I fsck an XFS partition, or do I need special tools?
[08:39] <brussel> Kingsqueak, maybe it's because I installed the gnome desktop over a lamp server and you are running the desktop ubuntu version
[08:39] <Kingsqueak> brussel could be
[08:39] <ArrenLex> brussel: I doubt it. If you have gnome, you have gnome.
[08:39] <HexDump> hi all
[08:39] <sureshot> anon32 i have a.d.h.d it is a medical condtion ware i cant hold my attention very long i also have a bunch of other medical problems that cause problems such as that..
[08:39] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:39] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:40] <sv452> how can i mount my partition while on the live cd to edit my fstab ?
[08:40] <sureshot> anon32 i dont understand the way the man pages are written and such
[08:40] <anon32> sureshot, oh... sorry, I have aspergers, so I can relate
[08:40] <Kingsqueak> sv452 once into live, open a term, just   mount /dev/sda1 /mnt   (or /dev/whatever your drive is)
[08:40] <anon32> sureshot, but you can take any command and tack --help after it to get a description and usage
[08:40] <sureshot> anon32 that is why i asked for your cheat cheats and such
[08:41] <HexDump> I have installed vmware player, and I would like to run windows on it. Should I donwload a vm for that or something? (I? a bit screwed)
[08:41] <sureshot> anon32 i know
[08:41] <Kingsqueak> sv452 you may want to do    mount -o rw /dev/whatever /mnt  I forget if it does rw by default
[08:41] <jeejee> mopi
[08:41] <jeejee> kikkelis kokkelis
[08:41] <sv452> ok
[08:41] <jeejee> moi gayt
[08:41] <sv452> let me try that Kingsqueak
[08:41] <jeejee> h
[08:41] <nicholaspaul> Does anyone know of a file system manager, preferably a GUI, that can help me find all the big files on my HD? Its getting full and i need to clear some space.
[08:41] <jeejee> terve
[08:42] <digi_cam> does anybody know why ubuntu detects photos on my digital camera as one thats i took months prior, not to mention photos from a different memory card
[08:42] <anon32> sureshot, well... I won't pretend to be an expert with the console, but the only things I've ever needed to use were ls, cp, mv, and rm
[08:42] <ArrenLex> HexDump: theoretically you can't make a new virtual machine with vmware player -- you can only "play" images others have already made.
[08:42] <anon32> oh yea... cd too
[08:42] <sureshot> ok cp is copy correct what is mv and rm
[08:42] <ArrenLex> HexDump: you can work around this, though. Google for a walkthough.
[08:42] <sureshot> anon32 ok cp is copy correct what is mv and rm
[08:42] <ArrenLex> sureshot: mv is move\rename. rm is remove.
[08:42] <HexDump> ArrenLex: great... I think Vmware server was too much for me
[08:43] <anon32> sureshot, mv is move and rm is remove
[08:43] <ArrenLex> HexDump: I've never quite understood what vmware server was. Can you fill me in?
[08:43] <Kingsqueak> nicholaspaul   find / -type f -size +1M   will give you files over 1M
[08:43] <sureshot> anon32 you said sudo chmod 777 /dev/sdb correct
[08:43] <nicholaspaul> digi_cam: Cant say I've seen that, I've had nothing but wonderful experiences with Ubuntu and my digital
[08:43] <nicholaspaul> Kingsqueak: oh i see... thanks :)
[08:43] <Linuturk> ok, i need help with an external modem
[08:43] <HexDump> ArrenLex: you can run then several vm's and create them
[08:43] <anon32> sureshot, no!!!
[08:43] <Kingsqueak> find is a bit tedious at first but it's worth learning ;-) very very handy, also   du -sh ./*   might be of help
[08:44] <anon32> sureshot, don't chmod the nod, chmod your mount point (whatever it is in fstab)
[08:44] <HexDump> ArrenLex: this is what I got from their site (it's a mess though)
[08:44] <ArrenLex> HexDump: isn't this what you want?
[08:44] <Cassandra> Does anyone know nicotine at all?
[08:44] <nicholaspaul> Kingsqueak: whats DU?
[08:44] <digi_cam> nicholaspaul: do you upload your photos straight from the camera to your hard disk, or do you use an external card reader
[08:44] <Kingsqueak> disk utilization
[08:44] <nicholaspaul> digi_cam: i go direct.
[08:44] <sureshot> anon32 to edit the fstab can i use gksudo gedit
[08:44] <Kingsqueak> cd / ; du -sh ./*
[08:44] <sv452> ok - i am in fstab
[08:44] <bonzai10> hello, i have kinda newbie question, can you give me link to guide how to mount windows drive ? i mounted once but i could read and open it only as a root can you tell me how to make it work under user mode ?
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Hey FriedGeek.
[08:44] <sv452> where do i make vfat 0 ??
[08:44] <Kingsqueak> the -sh gives you a summary of the size of the dirs in ./*
[08:45] <HexDump> ArrenLex: : nah, I only want to run one vm. But I thought I could create one at least :). Must check this woraround
[08:45] <HexDump> workaround*
[08:45] <anon32> sureshot, why are you editing your fstab?
[08:45] <nicholaspaul> aaah. thx Kingsqueak
[08:45] <TheFriedGeek> Howyde ArrenLex!
[08:45] <anon32> sureshot, just read your fstab or do mount -l
[08:45] <sureshot> anon32 i dont know the mount point
[08:45] <Kingsqueak> nicholaspaul after you get a handle on some of the commandline, I think you'll find most file managers far more tedious to use
[08:45] <anon32> then chmod the mount point, not the /dev/whatever
[08:45] <ArrenLex> HexDump: essentially you download someone else's vm image, then replace their hard drive with a blank one you make yourself and boot with a Windows install CD.
[08:45] <ArrenLex> boot player *
[08:46] <anon32> sureshot, do mount -l and it'll print a list of devices and mount points
[08:46] <Allmind> why linux doesnt work on a panasonic CF-25
[08:46] <HexDump> ArrenLex: heheh, yes, I guessed that :). Anyway thanks a lot for the instructions, let's find a windows vm :D
[08:46] <ArrenLex> bonzai: to mount a windows drive so users can read it, add "umask=000" to your mount options.
[08:46] <sureshot> ok did it is /media/usbdisk
[08:46] <nicholaspaul> Kingsqueak: is there an option to output to a text file?
[08:46] <anon32> Allmind, define "doesn't work"
[08:46] <sureshot> anon32 ok did it is /media/usbdisk
[08:47] <Aphex_Twin> hey there
[08:47] <anon32> sureshot, um... why is your hard drive mounted on /media/usbdisk?
[08:47] <sureshot> anon32 thanks i am a little slow but once i learn somthing it will not leave me ok
[08:47] <ArrenLex> HexDump: there are no windows vms. It's not legal to distribute windows like that. You have to find a Linux vm and replace the disk image with a blank one, and install windows yourself.
[08:47] <Kingsqueak> nicholaspaul almost any command, when you run it it dumps to 'stdout' to capture that into a file you simply redirect it to a file    ls -l > file.txt
[08:47] <Allmind> it cant recognised the RSDP
[08:47] <sureshot> anon32 it is on a sata usb converter
[08:47] <sv452> yipee - thanx Kingsqueak - i managed to delete the offending files
[08:47] <nicholaspaul> Kingsqueak: didnt know that...thanks again :)
[08:47] <Aphex_Twin> is it possible to make the web browser into a higher priority process?
[08:47] <HexDump> ArrenLex: ok ok, it was my fault.
[08:47] <Kingsqueak> nicholaspaul to append to the end of a file just do   ls -l >> file.txt   that will create file.txt if it isn't there and just add to it if it is without overwriting it
[08:47] <Lattyware> Hey
[08:48] <Lattyware> ack, wrong channel ^_^;
[08:48] <TheFriedGeek> ArrenLex: Loving Ubuntu BTW. Got all my issues worked out.
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Aphex: of course. "man renice"
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Good to hear! Welcome to the Linux club.
[08:48] <sureshot> anon32 what is the postbin url i will send you the mount -l output
[08:48] <sv452> brb
[08:48] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[08:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:50] <Renan_s2> !nvidia
[08:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <Allmind> anon32: in am loading it again and ill tel you what it says.
[08:50] <sureshot> anon32 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26776/
[08:51] <sureshot> ArrenLex thanks for the info
[08:51] <puff> Afternoon.
[08:51] <koholint1000> yo ubuntu community
[08:51] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:51] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:52] <Kingsqueak> I've got a question, did dual-boot Ubuntu over an XP Media Center install, used the Ubuntu partition resize in install and now XP won't boot, the std grub entry doesn't work, GRUB doesn't recognize the filesystem type
[08:52] <Allmind> anon32: [4294667.296000]  ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP
[08:52] <Kingsqueak> I can mount the XP partition and read all the files no problem, so it's still there
[08:52] <puff> I'm chugging through the dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper.
[08:52] <koholint1000> hmmm...
[08:52] <koholint1000> well, erm...
[08:53] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:53] <dyne_user> hello mz friends
[08:53] <dyne_user> i need help with UBUNTU
[08:53] <ArrenLex> !ask
[08:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:53] <dyne_user> OK, sorrz, it seemed rude to just ask >(
[08:53] <ArrenLex> That's what we're here for. =P
[08:53] <bonzai10> i dont get it, when i'm adding umask=0000 then it says... well it doesn't say anything but prints help, i need to mount it one time, i have set fstab but i dont know how to mount it manually
[08:53] <sharket> hep
[08:54] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26777/
[08:54] <sharket> hello
[08:54] <sharket> how can install the java-package
[08:54] <dyne_user> ok ... why ubunto wont recogniye my lan card and dynebolic do recogniye it
[08:54] <jrib> ubotu: tell sharket about java
[08:54] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex sda3 is Ubuntu
[08:54] <Kingsqueak> and that works...it's what I'm on now ;-)
[08:55] <ArrenLex> bonzai: try "sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,users,umask=000 /dev/something /mnt/somewhere"
[08:55] <sureshot> anon32 i got it working thanks for your help
[08:55] <Loof> quit
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: you have both media centre and regular XP? xD Why?
[08:56] <Allmind> anon32: do you know what it means
[08:56] <Kingsqueak> the sda2 is a rescue image that HP ships on its systems, it's there and will boot and run actually but panics doing a rescue because it assumes partitioning that I have changed
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: I assume that's not your whole list?
[08:56] <silvertip257> what file system do i need to use to create a shared partition for both Windows and Linux ???
[08:56] <Kingsqueak> I can paste the whole thing if you like, the rest is the normal Ubuntu stuff in sda3
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: what would happen if you changed "rootnoverify" to "root"?
[08:56] <sharket> thx jrib
[08:56] <ArrenLex> silvertip: fat32
[08:56] <HexDump> bbl
[08:56] <silvertip257> thanks ArrenLex
[08:56] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex I've done plain root, I've also done a hide statement for each, with no luck
[08:56] <bonzai10> ArrenLex thta's what i needed, thanx a lot man
[08:57] <dyne_user> i am still trying to figure out what is wrong...help win user to set up ubuntu
[08:57] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex I've done a hide and then set root from the grub> prompt too
[08:57] <h3htimo> is anyone familiar with engage??
[08:57] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: and what does it tell you when you try to boot like that, again?
[08:57] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex fwiw, I'm not that new to this, and have several other Ubuntu dual boot boxes I've done from the installer with XP Pro and they work
[08:57] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex I get 0x7 unknown operating system
[08:57] <_\o_O> has anyone any experience with ipsec?
[08:58] <Kingsqueak> if I try to directly chainload a file say /$Boot it says, cannot mount filesystem
[08:58] <kads> I get a kernel panic -not syncing; when I try to log on to my computer
[08:58] <kads> what can I do
[08:58] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: ah. Then I don't know. My old computer absolutely refused to let grub boot windows. It totally screwed up. I had to use PartitionMagic's boot loader. But this one is fine with the same settings.
[08:58] <VR_> how do you write a string value to a text file through bash? i know there's command > file.txt but i would like to output text that i type in.
[08:58] <kads> please help
[08:58] <dyne_user> conf t
[08:58] <dyne_user> int atm 0
[08:58] <ArrenLex> Kignsqueak: maybe your box is just weird. I dunno. = /
[08:58] <dyne_user> no shut
[08:58] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex yeah I suspect that the parted corrupted the boot block somehow
[08:58] <kads> I can get to grub but after that I get a kernel panic
[08:58] <_\o_O> VR: cat > file then ^D once you've finished
[08:59] <Kingsqueak> I think I actually have to buy XP and just re-install
[08:59] <train2> i just dist-upgraded to edgy, and now X won't load... it doesn't give any logging at all... anyone know what's up?
[08:59] <ArrenLex> VR_: explain more. You want the user to input a string? Or do you want to just echo a string?
[08:59] <THX-1138> Kingsqueak: conf files are funny. one , instead or . and anarchy
[08:59] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 I'm *fairly* certain on this one
[08:59] <SB|nblracer> is there any good becnch marking and stress testing programs for ubuntu/linux
[08:59] <Kingsqueak> I have other systems to compare the menu.lst with that work
[08:59] <VR_> ArrenLex: i just want to echo something
[08:59] <ArrenLex> train2: what if you apt-get install x-window-system-core xserver-xorg?
[09:00] <livingdaylight> hi
[09:00] <_\o_O> VR_, echo(1)
[09:00] <ArrenLex> VR_: echo "ArrenLex is the god of the known universe" > file.txt
[09:00] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26777/
[09:00] <train2> ArrenLex, trying now
[09:00] <kads> I get a kernel panic -not syncing; when I try to log on to my computer, after the grub
[09:00] <VR_> ah, echo, of course
[09:00] <SB|nblracer> i need somthing to help me overclock, test and compaire
[09:00] <VR_> thanks!
[09:00] <THX-1138> Kingsqueak: That is a link to the older file?
[09:00] <Allmind> does anyone know what this mean  [4294667.296000]  ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP
[09:00] <Kingsqueak> that's the last one I was trying
[09:01] <Kingsqueak> I've had root, rootnoverify and I've done combinations of hide as well
[09:01] <ArrenLex> Allmind: acronymfinder.com:          ****           RSDP   Root System Description Pointer (BIOS data structure)
[09:01] <Allmind> thanks
[09:01] <livingdaylight> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:01] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 the only diff with that and one of the boxes that works, installed the same way is they have root, and not rootnoverify, which doesn't work on this one
[09:02] <livingdaylight> i keep getting this :
[09:02] <livingdaylight> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:02] <train2> ArrenLex, progress! thanks :) just a driver issue now i think
[09:02] <Kingsqueak> rootnoverify was just something I was trying to see if the 0x7 error would be overlooked and it would force
[09:02] <livingdaylight> but i can't reinstall it!
[09:02] <ArrenLex> livingdaylight: how did you get jedit?
[09:02] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: please don't make me say it
[09:02] <Kingsqueak> I've also tried  chainloader --force +1 , also up to +4
[09:02] <livingdaylight> :(
[09:02] <ArrenLex> o_O??
[09:02] <anon32> is that one guy I was talking to still here?
[09:02] <silvertip257> how much space does Ubuntu physically take up on a regular install from the LiveCD ???
[09:03] <anon32> silvertip257, around 2GB
[09:03] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: ok, i used the ubuntuguide.org
[09:03] <silvertip257> ok ty Anon32
[09:03] <ArrenLex> Is that illegal?
[09:03] <anon32> ArrenLex, DUH
[09:03] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: it is very frowned upon onirc channels i know
[09:03] <ArrenLex> I see. I've never heard of it. xD
[09:03] <Kingsqueak> silvertip257 if you want to go nuts installing all the packages after initial install, leave 6G or so for breathing room
[09:03] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: hehe
[09:03] <anon32> wtf is ubuntu guide? for some reason... firefox fails to load certain pages..
[09:04] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_associate_Adobe_Reader_with_files_in_Nautilus
[09:04] <codecaine> my smb server won't share any files anymore I tried to reinstall it still not working
[09:04] <codecaine> anybody know how I can get it fixed?
[09:04] <anon32> livingdaylight, lol?
[09:04] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: i did the wget url.....jedit and then sudo dpkg -i thing
[09:05] <nikin> codecain: samba share?
[09:05] <livingdaylight> anon32: i don't know what to do?
[09:05] <codecaine> yes
[09:05] <anon32> gah... firefox fails to connect to a lot of pages..
[09:05] <codecaine> I tested it smbclient -L //192.168.1.100
[09:05] <nikin> do the shares get to the smb.conf?
[09:05] <freakabcd> anyone use Logitech Quickcam on ubuntu dapper ?
[09:05] <codecaine> says access denied
[09:05] <codecaine> yep
[09:05] <anon32> livingdaylight, um, right-click on a pdf -> openwith -> adobe acrobat
[09:05] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me what to do about no being able to use apt-get
[09:06] <Kingsqueak> livingdaylight what is the error?
[09:06] <codecaine> think I might of fixed it let me test it
[09:06] <nikin> codecaine, your iptables settings are correct?
[09:06] <silvertip257> ok kingsqueak
[09:06] <nikin> livingday: you need root privilegues
[09:07] <SV452> @ Kingsqueak - THANX A BUNCH - It worked !!!!!!
[09:07] <livingdaylight>  i keep getting this :
[09:07] <nikin> so type : sudo apt-get install [packagename] 
[09:07] <livingdaylight> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:07] <silvertip257> kingsqueak i'm planning on installing multiple versions to experiment w/ each, so i'm not gonna leave any room (or rather cant)
[09:07] <codecaine> I got it working again
[09:07] <codecaine> :)
[09:07] <Kingsqueak> SV452 cool
[09:07] <SV452> last question
[09:07] <SV452> i have the external usb hdd
[09:07] <THX-1138> Kingsqueak: That looks like mine. But the mechanism ill be final arbitor on booting. all decisions are final and irrevocable. period. - lol
[09:07] <livingdaylight> Kingsqueak: i used wget to download url.jedit and sudo dpkg -i to try to install it
[09:07] <silvertip257> anon32 is 2 gigs an over estimate or a barebones estimate (will that leave enuff room or not for a few other things?
[09:07] <nikin> codecain: thats fine
[09:07] <SV452> how can i make in fstab so anyone can mount/umount and r/w for any user ???
[09:08] <mpathy> Hi there.. How I am able to tell firefox to use the mplayer-plugin primarily and the weird totem-plugin at second place?
[09:08] <anon32> silvertip257, overestimate
[09:08] <nikin> codecain what was the bug?
[09:08] <anon32> silvertip257, you can shrink it by removing packages too
[09:08] <silvertip257> ok ty anon32
[09:08] <livingdaylight> Kingsqueak: then i get the error  E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:08] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 yeah I think I caught a bug in parted, it's not something I'm new to and I've driven myself insane for a week trying anything I could find
[09:08] <anon32> mpathy, edit -> preferences -> downloads -> view and edit actions
[09:08] <mpathy> or otherwise ONLY use mplayer-plugin
[09:08] <silvertip257> well yea, but i'm just using the regular liveCD for ubuntu anon32
[09:08] <anon32> mpathy, also try about:plugins
[09:08] <livingdaylight> Kingsqueak: now i can't install anything else
[09:08] <SB|nblracer> Any one know of a good benchmarking and stress testing tool?
[09:09] <nikin> re
[09:09] <mpathy> anon32: there is only a list nothing to edit
[09:09] <Kingsqueak> livingdaylight sorry, not sure there
[09:09] <livingdaylight> Kingsqueak: seems APT is somehow completely tied in to installing jedit
[09:09] <livingdaylight> arrrrr....
[09:09] <anon32> mpathy, click on it and choose edit?
[09:09] <Kingsqueak> livingdaylight yeah , that's weird, it shouldn't be, something is awry
[09:09] <livingdaylight> Kingsqueak: very awry
[09:09] <Tampler> can you tell me how can i update clamscan
[09:10] <THX-1138> Kingsqueak: Reading through some arcania i stumbled upon the penguin sleuth kit and the app "testdisk". - haven't needed it yet but glad it's there.
[09:10] <Kingsqueak> well I'm off to a house full of screaming 4yr olds for a birthday party, troubleshooting GRUB would be more fun I think
[09:10] <LittleFireCracke> what is the ubuntu command for ipconfig /all?
[09:10] <nikin> living: did you check repo list?
[09:10] <kads> I get a kernel panic after a power loss to my ubutnu machine
[09:10] <livingdaylight> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:10] <livingdaylight> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[09:10] <THX-1138> Kingsqueak: lol
[09:10] <nikin> King: poor you :|
[09:10] <livingdaylight> can someone help me please?
[09:11] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 I think I need to restore the windows boot record, which means a re-install for me, then again I may just say screw it and only use the work laptop Win when I need it
[09:11] <livingdaylight> Synaptic just throws this at me:
[09:11] <bthornton> I'm trying to setup a 32-bit chroot/dchroot'ed environment on my x86_64 Dapper install.  Does anybody know of a script that will setup the chroot'd environment start-to-finish?
[09:11] <pontusen> trying to install cedega, it says xlibs is missing, can't find xlibs in synaptic, help any?
[09:11] <livingdaylight> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:11] <livingdaylight> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[09:11] <mpathy> anon32: There are not the filetypes I want to edit in the list - for example, a quicktime movie or a mpeg file sth like that
[09:11] <bthornton> I know such a script exists because I used it, but I can't find it anymore
[09:11] <Allmind> Arrenlex: I have windows 98 on my other computer and i want to install linux on it but it tell me (ok, booting the kernel,and on the bottom it is giving me all these # and beside the # unable to located RSDP) is it because it's an old panasonic CF-25
[09:11] <SV452> how do i make ext3 usb harddrive usable in fstab for everyone on the pc ???
[09:11] <LittleFireCracke> can I force azureus to use another dht port?
[09:11] <kads> livingdaylight: xlibs has to be downloaded from the web at sourceforge
[09:11] <mpathy> anon32: and on about:plugins there is only a list
[09:11] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 the fun part is the only things I own that require Windows are a Logitech remote and a GPS and only for updating, pain in the ass
[09:11] <livingdaylight> someone know how i can fix E: internal error
[09:11] <kads> livingdaylight: there is a deb file for it
[09:11] <kads> I get a kernel panic after a power loss to my ubutnu machine
[09:11] <silvertip257> i'm dual booting different versions of linux, could there be a max # of partitions for my harddrive ??? cause it says unusable space after i put a few on
[09:11] <anon32> mpathy, ah yes, you have to edit about:config to do that...
[09:11] <Kingsqueak> thanks for the .02 guys
[09:12] <anon32> but in the meantime, you can go to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and delete the ones you don't like
[09:12] <THX-1138> Logitech makes some good products and some very large drivers
[09:12] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, isn;t that question better answered in #azureus ?
[09:12] <livingdaylight> kads: how am i gonna install anything with my computer not letting me?
[09:12] <mpathy> anon32: is there no "ubuntu way" to do that? instead deleting files?
[09:12] <livingdaylight> seems like a Catch-22
[09:12] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, sorry right
[09:12] <silvertip257> i'm dual booting different versions of linux, could there be a max # of partitions for my harddrive ??? cause it says unusable space after i put a few on
[09:13] <Kampsun> i want to install listen music player with their own repositories, but i cant do it because there's too many things with word listen in them
[09:13] <atlef> THX-1138 : yes, like their webcams
[09:13] <kads> livingdaylight: synaoptic is not working?
[09:13] <anon32> mpathy, nope, no ubuntu way... but their is a value in about:config that'll show all plugins in the download options
[09:13] <nikin> livingday: if you have the deb : see CD.. then you can install i with dpkg
[09:13] <kads> I also get VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[09:13] <anon32> I just forgot what it was
[09:13] <anon32> try irc.mozilla.org
[09:13] <THX-1138> Hi atlef
[09:13] <elriah> Before I start trying to figure this out, does anyone know how to get the krb5 client installed on dapper?  It seems to stick on a lib conflict.  It wants krb53ubuntu1 but krb53 is already installed.  I'm fully updated.
[09:13] <atlef> hello again THX-1138
[09:13] <livingdaylight> kads: not at all
[09:13] <mpathy> anon32: okay thx
[09:13] <THX-1138> atlef - Should i peek at the binary or is there a hint in the irssi source?
[09:14] <silvertip257> hey anon32:  i'm dual booting different versions of linux, could there be a max # of partitions for my harddrive ??? cause it says unusable space after i put a few on
[09:14] <atlef> ?
[09:14] <kads> livingdaylight: just download xlibs from the internet in .deb file install that
[09:14] <anon32> silvertip257, probably not
[09:14] <livingdaylight> kads: i cannot use command line
[09:14] <THX-1138> atlef  - binary only?
[09:14] <silvertip257> anon32 then why would it say unusable space ???
[09:14] <kads> livingdaylight: just double click it
[09:14] <kads> kernel panic wiht VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) what can Ido
[09:14] <livingdaylight> kads: anything i do in command line it tells me jedit needs to be reinstalled
[09:14] <nikin> im off cu
[09:15] <anon32> silvertip257, err... no idea... but it may or may not be that your hdd has a partition limit (I guess not)
[09:15] <atlef> THX-1138 : i have no clue to what you are saying, noob here
[09:15] <anon32> have you reinstalled grub?
[09:15] <kads> livingdaylight: ok forget jedit
[09:15] <THX-1138> nvm - i have the time. - anything you need help with?
[09:15] <livingdaylight> kads: believe me i want to
[09:15] <silvertip257> anon32, hmmm idk, but this is gay
[09:15] <kads> livingdaylight: the only way to get synaptic to work than to be able to install jedit is
[09:15] <livingdaylight> kads: but cli is not letting me do anything else
[09:15] <anon32> !language > silvertip257
[09:15] <livingdaylight> kads: i'd like that but how?
[09:15] <silvertip257> sorry anon32, dont be like that
[09:16] <kads> livingdaylight: by installing xlibs from a precompile format and installing it
[09:16] <THX-1138> atlef - i mentioned arabic and my machine went mad. - lol
[09:16] <kads> anyone!!! kernel panic wiht VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) what can Ido
[09:16] <livingdaylight> kads: :) ok, you win....just tell me how, please
[09:16] <atlef> ohh
[09:16] <anon32> silvertip257, but your situation confuses me... I am not geek enough to fix it
[09:16] <kads> livingdaylight: google xlibs
[09:16] <silvertip257> ah ok anon32
[09:16] <LittleFireCracke> skype doesn' t like my usb mic.
[09:16] <atlef> THX-1138 : i see, have to be carefull
[09:17] <kads> livingdaylight: here is the link http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/xlibs
[09:17] <Allmind>  I have windows 98 on my other computer and i want to install linux on it but it tell me (ok, booting the kernel,and on the bottom it is giving me all these # and beside the # unable to located RSDP) is it because it's an old panasonic CF-25
[09:18] <JoeMama> hi
[09:18] <kads> download the xlibs at the bottom of the page and than double click on that to install xlibs restart and than use synaptics to install jedit
[09:18] <LittleFireCracke> how can I force ubuntu to use my usb mic, instead of my non existing mic on soundcard?
[09:18] <kads> anyone!!! kernel panic wiht VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (
[09:18] <ninwa> does anyone know offhand if anything in the last ubuntu edgy upgrade broke wifi cards?
[09:18] <SV452> how do i add fstab entries for new storage dev's ???????
[09:19] <livingdaylight> kads: you guru, you.... thank you :-*
[09:19] <zyclop> SV452: try reading the manpage for fstab
[09:19] <BHSPitLappy> LittleFireCracke, you want to use a usb mic, but speakers on your built-in soundcard?
[09:19] <codecaine> I get error -103741772
[09:20] <codecaine> when trying to access a share :/
[09:20] <LittleFireCracke> BHSPitLappy, yes.
[09:20] <atlef> ninwa : i got my wifi to work only if i also had it plugged in, don't know why yet
[09:20] <SV452> to be honest i don't have time to read a man page - hence the reason why i am here
[09:20] <BHSPitLappy> LittleFireCracke, sounds tricky
[09:20] <ninwa> atlef, my wifi worked until my last reboot
[09:20] <anon32> SV452, add your device name, mount point, type, and options in that order
[09:20] <ninwa> without having changed anything
[09:20] <ninwa> and the only thing I can think that changed was I might've done a distrobution only upgrade
[09:20] <ninwa> for edgy
[09:21] <drivera> Alright, I got my Ubuntu CD people. What do I do know to migrate from WinXP?
[09:21] <LittleFireCracke> I could also just spend ten bucks on a normal mic. But I'm cheap and quality of the usb mic is very good. BHSPitLappy
[09:21] <BHSPitLappy> LittleFireCracke, double click on the Volume icon up there, and look at the menu
[09:21] <BHSPitLappy> under Change Device
[09:21] <SV452> ./dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ext3 then i need all users to read/write mount/umount
[09:21] <BHSPitLappy> your mic shoud be there, but the issue is... I think you're either using your mic, or your soundcard
[09:21] <THX-1138> atlef - a complete reinstall only takes a couple of minutes. not everyone is civil in a room this large.
[09:22] <LittleFireCracke> BHSPitLappy, I have two soundcards on a my pc and an usb mic (actually a logitech webcam with build in mic)
[09:22] <THX-1138> atlef - i still admire you for speaking english, arabic and german.
[09:22] <atlef> THX-1138 : i've noticed :-) , but there are exceptions
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> LittleFireCracke, I think your usb mic has its own sound card, that's what I'm saying
[09:23] <atlef> what made you think I speak arabic, I thought you said you do.
[09:23] <LittleFireCracke> everything works fine, just ubuntu, doesn't have the windows like settings in sounds. Use this device for playback or use this device for recording. BHSPitLappy
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> play around and see if you can get anything to happen in the volume manager
[09:24] <LittleFireCracke> BHSPitLappy, its in the volumeicon listing. But soundrecoder, does nothing with it.
[09:24] <freakabcd> atlef, THX-1138 , so you guys use/have_used logitech quickcam under linux?
[09:24] <THX-1138> "atlef"? - nvm
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> LittleFireCracke, sounds like a very eligible bug report / feature request.
[09:24] <kane77> hi all!
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> yo
[09:24] <freakabcd> i dunno how to get it working, or more precisely: what the heck to do. cos theres a few differene drivers and some of their websites don;t work at all :(
[09:25] <atlef> i tried a long time ago, but never got it to work.
[09:25] <atlef> THX-1138 : nvm?
[09:26] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, click on the volume control to bring out the dialog. then Edit-Preferences. in the resulting dialog make sure there is a check box next to 'Mic Select'
[09:26] <THX-1138> nvm "never mind" Are you Norwegian?
[09:27] <atlef> yes
[09:27] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, then once you close this small dialog window, you should have an 'Options' tab in the volume control. in there check if it shoes 2 options for you. try with both options
[09:27] <wims> heia norge
[09:27] <atlef> heilt regtigt
[09:27] <THX-1138> ah. - Thats neat. - i love the 'net where else can you meet so many different people.
[09:28] <atlef> it's like....huge man
[09:28] <R3linquish3r> I'm having trouble getting Teamspeak to run on x64 Edgy. Can anyone help?
[09:28] <THX-1138> Rofl - Yes, i am from San Diego. U.S.
[09:29] <pmjdebruijn> R3linquish3r, teamspeak = 32bit
[09:29] <atlef> the world gets smaller every day
[09:29] <train2> R3linquish3r, runs here... probably just missing some 32-bit libs
[09:29] <freakabcd> atlef, grr.. i had another noname crappy cam work without me doing anything on dapper.. so i'm pissed with logitech
[09:29] <R3linquish3r> pmjdebruijn, is there a way to get it to run on 64/ is there an alternative?
[09:29] <HumanPrototype> R3linquish3r, if its 32bit you will need a 32bit chroot
[09:29] <pmjdebruijn> R3linquish3r, you probably need some libs
[09:30] <pmjdebruijn> R3linquish3r, what HumanPrototype says...
[09:30] <THX-1138> Teamspeak is a challenge on it's own add the secondary app/game and it gets really erm interesting to bind keys
[09:30] <R3linquish3r> alright ill try that then
[09:30] <R3linquish3r> THX-1138 i never had any problem with it on 32 bit
[09:30] <atlef> i try to check now if it's compatible.
[09:30] <train2> R3linquish3r, try ldd ./Teamspeak and see what it's missing
[09:30] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, I don't see the options dialog.
[09:31] <freakabcd> atlef, you talking to me?
[09:31] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, huh? did you open up the volume control?
[09:31] <atlef> freakabcd : sorry, yes
[09:31] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, then, did you cick on Edit->Preferences?
[09:31] <LittleFireCracke> yes
[09:31] <freakabcd> atlef, thanks
[09:31] <R3linquish3r> train2: the install i downloaded is missing the setup.sh file its suposed to have. at least i have it in 32
[09:32] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, now, in there, did you scroll down and put a tick in the checkbox next to 'Mic Select' ?
[09:32] <LittleFireCracke> yes, freakabcd , then made sure checkbox was enabled.
[09:32] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, the usb-device had only one option, microphone.
[09:32] <Rapidwolve> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on a partition throught a LiveCD?
[09:32] <freakabcd> ok good. now there should be an extra tab in the volume control: 'Playback, 'Capture' etc.
[09:33] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, there is just capture, but ok.
[09:33] <Rapidwolve> Please PM me with an answer
[09:33] <drivera> Hey, folks. Let's say I've got the ubuntu CD in my hands. I'm on WinXP. I format c:. What do I do now? Does it partition itself and all that jazz?
[09:33] <Rapidwolve> I really need help with this
[09:33] <ReinH> guys, noob question. I've sudo chmod -R 006 a_directory   now when I cd a_directory it tells me Permission denied
[09:33] <LittleFireCracke> with the two taps, you meant the two buttons? freakabcd ?
[09:33] <freakabcd> there should ne a 'Playback' tab for sure!
[09:33] <ReinH> but the permissions look fine in nautilus :/
[09:33] <ReinH> * mean 0666
[09:34] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, i will post a screenshot
[09:34] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, no, its a webcam with build in mic.
[09:34] <freakabcd> uh. webcam with built in mic..
[09:34] <freakabcd> now thats different..
[09:34] <ArrenLex> drivera: you want to replace XP with Ubuntu? Why not dual boot?
[09:34] <drivera> Because that sounds harder.
[09:34] <LittleFireCracke> drivera, its not
[09:34] <freakabcd> sorry man. i'm having no idea about where to start for my webcam.. :(
[09:35] <ArrenLex> drivera: it's not. Ubuntu sets it all up for you.
[09:35] <ReinH> drivera: not at all. It's quite easy
[09:35] <drivera> (Is it much harder?
[09:35] <drivera> )
[09:35] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, you where the person asking about logitech cam?
[09:35] <ArrenLex> It's not harder.
[09:35] <ArrenLex> At all.
[09:36] <ReinH> I actually created a Gparted live cd before I realized that the ubuntu install process would handle partitioning on its own
[09:36] <drivera> Alright, so what do I do?
[09:36] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, indeed i am the person asking about the Logitech cam
[09:36] <drivera> I have both a WinXP install CD and an Ubuntu install CD. I'm currently backing up everything on an iPod.
[09:36] <ArrenLex> drivera: you don't have to remove XP!
[09:36] <THX-1138> drivera:The Live CD will let you try things out. (Though to be honest it is more difficult for laptops hardware is less documented)
[09:36] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, my cam with mic, is also a logitech cam, a logitech pro 3000 cam or something like that.
[09:36] <ArrenLex> drivera: although a backup is a good idea in case something goes wrong.
[09:36] <ReinH> drivera: defrag your HD, start the ubuntu install, set up a partition as it directs you, let it install ubuntu into that partition, boot into ubuntu
[09:37] <drivera> I kind of broke my XP, I'm trying to get a fresh start.
[09:37] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[09:37] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, and it works by just plugging it in ?
[09:37] <ReinH> Ah
[09:37] <ReinH> lol
[09:37] <ArrenLex> drivera: you'll need to install XP first and Ubuntu second.
[09:37] <drivera> Ok, do I need to partition stuff?
[09:37] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, I didn't try the cam, but the mic does show up.
[09:37] <THX-1138> drivera - lol XP ill break or be broken simply by attaching it to a network.
[09:38] <ReinH> Guys, my chmod question? I've sudo chmod -R 0666 directory ... when I cd directory it tells me Permission denied... what did I do wrong?
[09:38] <drivera> It broke really bad. As in, I stopped trying to describe the symptoms and just refer to it as "broken"
[09:38] <ArrenLex> drivera: yes. If you'll need three partitions to make it work, but you can have as many as you like. You'll need an NTFS partition for XP, an ext3 partition for ubuntu, and a swap partition for ubuntu.
[09:38] <atlef> THX-1138 : oh, come now, it isn't that bad
[09:38] <atlef> :-)
[09:38] <Xk2c> ReinH: der directory itself must have 7
[09:38] <ArrenLex> ReinH: can you paste the "ls -l" for that folder?
[09:38] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, the thing is: withried a few days back, a no-name usb webcam it worked perfectly and /vsr/log/messages showed it as a webcam.
[09:38] <ReinH> ArrenLex: one sec :)
[09:38] <nolimitsoya> the swappartition is not realy needed if you got enough ram
[09:39] <freakabcd> now this logitech cam i plug in it shows nothing in the messages.
[09:39] <drivera> How big should each partition be?
[09:39] <nolimitsoya> and id realy recommend a /home-partition
[09:39] <freakabcd> other than som generic usb high speed device message
[09:39] <nolimitsoya> about 5gb for /, and the rest for /home
[09:39] <THX-1138> XP
[09:39] <ArrenLex> drivera: it depends on how big your drive is, how much RAM you have, and how much space you think you'll need.
[09:39] <freakabcd> THX-1138, please let it be OS-X
[09:39] <atlef> THX-1138 : hehe
[09:39] <freakabcd> damn you
[09:39] <freakabcd> XP deserves better
[09:39] <freakabcd> :p
[09:40] <ReinH> that's not good...
[09:40] <drivera> I've got 80GB hdd, 512MB RAM, and I won't be using XP for much other than games now and then, I guess.
[09:40] <ReinH> drivera: you want a 1GB swap
[09:40] <freakabcd> its just that i'm sick and tired of the 'mac noobs'
[09:40] <ArrenLex> drivera: I suggest a 1-2GB swap, then.
[09:41] <drivera> Alright. And how big should the other two be?
[09:41] <ReinH> maybe 1.5 :)
[09:41] <nolimitsoya> drivera, use 25gb for xp the, 5gb for /, and 50gb for /home (49, if you want a swap, and the last gb for that swap)
[09:41] <crazy_penguin> Good night to all!
[09:41] <ReinH> what nolimitsoya said
[09:41] <nolimitsoya> 25gb should be more than enough for games
[09:41] <drivera> What is /, and what is /home?
[09:41] <ReinH> and you can access your ext3 partition from winXP
[09:41] <ArrenLex> drivera: at 80GB, you won't run into space problems. Give yourself however much you think you'll need.
[09:41] <nolimitsoya>  / is you "C:"
[09:42] <ArrenLex> drivera: /home is the directory where you store a user's files and data. / is like C:
[09:42] <nolimitsoya>  /home is your personal directory, that you will use for all files and configurationsfiles
[09:42] <ReinH> !pastebin
[09:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:43] <drivera> Ok. So how do I partition, and where do I make stuff ext3/NTFS?
[09:43] <codecaine> I get this when trying to access my shares on ubuntu
[09:43] <codecaine> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[09:43] <codecaine> whys that?
[09:43] <nolimitsoya> drivera, the ntfspartitions will be made during the winxp installation
[09:44] <nolimitsoya> the ext3-partitions (though i suggest jfs) will be made using gparted during the ubuntuinstallation
[09:44] <willys_fueguino> Hi!! I have a question: If I install a fimware on /lib/firmware, how can I load it without rebooting??
[09:44] <nolimitsoya> just remember to select 'manualy edit partition table', during the installation
[09:44] <drivera> Are /, /home and swap all ext3?
[09:44] <bthornton> I'm trying to install a package in dapper, but it fails with "nxclient depends on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2".... any ideas how I can go about finding "libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2"?
[09:44] <ReinH> This is not good: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26791/
[09:44] <freakabcd> atlef, did you find anything about the logitech quickcams ?
[09:44] <ReinH> ArrenLex: ^^
[09:45] <nolimitsoya> drivera,  swap is a special type of filesystem
[09:45] <ArrenLex> .....
[09:45] <drivera> Ah.
[09:45] <ReinH> ArrenLex: yeah... wtf?
[09:45] <nolimitsoya> and as i said, id recommend jfs instead of ext3
[09:45] <freakabcd> drivera, all of them are ext3 and swap is of type swap :)
[09:45] <ArrenLex> ReinH: try running that same command with sudo.
[09:45] <atlef> freakabcd : haven't looked
[09:45] <ReinH> ArrenLex: I did
[09:45] <stefg> willys_fueguino:it might work to  rmmod the corresponding module and modprobe it again
[09:45] <scott_> bthornton: I just installed that package yesterday for nxclient using dpkg -i ... googled for the debian package
[09:45] <elriah> Is there a faq somewhere how to get nvidia drivers installed in dapper?
[09:45] <ArrenLex> Then I would say something in your box is majorly screwed up o_O
[09:45] <ArrenLex> !nvidia
[09:45] <ReinH> $ sudo chmod -R 0666 mephisto-0.7
[09:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <ArrenLex> No, ReinH, sudo ls -l
[09:46] <ReinH> ah
[09:46] <drivera> So my current course of action is, back up, format C:, install WinXP, boot from the ubuntu CD, install ubuntu, and it should have all the partitioning stuff there?
[09:46] <willys_fueguino> stefg: how?
[09:46] <dozyarmadillo> i just installed Ubuntu - works great, loving it - created a 2nd user, switched to it but X apps (e.g. xclock) don't work - I get a "Can't open display" error - any suggestions?
[09:46] <ReinH> ArrenLex: woops :/
[09:46] <bthornton> scott_: so did you have to manually download a *.deb file containing the missing dependency?  Or did it turn out to be a package already in the Ubuntu repos?
[09:46] <nolimitsoya> drivera, correct
[09:46] <freakabcd> ReinH, what directory is this?
[09:46] <stefg> elriah: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:46] <willys_fueguino> stefg: Its to have internet on dapper live, with a Thompson speedtouch 330 adsl modem
[09:46] <ReinH> ArrenLex: drw-rw-rw as expected
[09:46] <ArrenLex> dozyarmadillo: I assume you're trying to run them in X and not the terminal? And as normal user, not sudo?
[09:46] <freakabcd> ReinH, does it occur in every directoy path?
[09:46] <nolimitsoya> drivera,
[09:46] <freakabcd> you don;t have permissions, thats why
[09:46] <ReinH> freakabcd: yes
[09:47] <dozyarmadillo> arrenlex - you are correct
[09:47] <nolimitsoya> just make sure to not use the entire space for winxpinstallation
[09:47] <freakabcd> ReinH, every directory?
[09:47] <ArrenLex> ReinH: what would happen if you sudo chmod -R 777 that directory? Just to see?
[09:47] <drivera> How do I do that? Is there some sort of option in the WinXP install?
[09:47] <freakabcd> ReinH, just type mount, and show us the output (pastebin ofcourse)
[09:47] <scott_> bthornton: I manually downloaded the .deb package
[09:47] <stefg> willys_fueguino: will be hard, the device is prolly looking for its firmware at boottime... so you've got to reboot
[09:47] <nolimitsoya> make a 25gb partition with winxp:s partitioning and formattingtool during installation, and install to that. leave the rest of the space unconfigured
[09:47] <elriah> Thanks!
[09:48] <ReinH> ArrenLex: it changes the permissions as expected
[09:48] <ReinH> freakabcd: one sec
[09:48] <willys_fueguino> stefg: but its a live cd, Could it work??
[09:48] <stefg> willys_fueguino: no
[09:48] <freakabcd> ReinH, and after chaging this permissions like ArrenLex suggested still the sam output ?
[09:48] <willys_fueguino> mm.... Thats what I taught...
[09:48] <drivera> Alright, nolimitsoya, sounds easy enough. Thanks.
[09:48] <nolimitsoya> np
[09:49] <willys_fueguino> stefg: Then how to load the firmware without rebooting?
[09:49] <drivera> I'll try that and see what gives, when I'm done backing up.
[09:49] <ReinH> freakabcd: no, drwxrwxrwx
[09:49] <stefg> willys_fueguino: probably not possible
[09:49] <ReinH> but I can cd the directory now
[09:49] <dozyarmadillo> arrenlex - do i have to configure x for the new user or should it "just work"?
[09:49] <freakabcd> ReinH, and after a reboot, it reverts back to this thing again?
[09:50] <ArrenLex> dozyarmadillo: if you've managed to start X, then it's configured enough to start xclock.
[09:50] <ReinH> freakabcd: can you not cd directories that you don't have execute rights to?
[09:50] <dozyarmadillo> yeah - tis strange - when i switch back to my primary user all the x apps wrork fine
[09:50] <ReinH> I thought you only needed read rights
[09:50] <Xk2c> yes ReinH
[09:50] <freakabcd> nope
[09:50] <atlef> freakabcd : have a look at http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/devices.php
[09:50] <freakabcd> you need x to go into the dir
[09:50] <ReinH> freakabcd: ah...
[09:50] <ReinH> :/
[09:50] <Xk2c> without execution right no access to dirs ReinH
[09:50] <nolimitsoya> drivera, if you run into any problems or have any quiestions during the ubntu install, remember that you can get into irc from there. just ask for help if you need it :)
[09:51] <freakabcd> and r to read its contents
[09:51] <eztk> any experts here with regards to burning .iso's on to DVD?
[09:51] <ReinH> Then I'm sorry for wasting your time
[09:51] <codecaine> anybody any good with smb
[09:51] <ReinH> I'm still a linux noob :)
[09:51] <eztk> the built in burner on dapper keeps throwing up "there was an error writing to the disc: the recorder could not be accessed"
[09:51] <eztk> but it works fine - especially with tovid :s
[09:51] <freakabcd> atlef, loading the page now
[09:51] <HumanPrototype> eztk try k3b
[09:51] <eztk> ok. should be ok in Gnome?
[09:51] <drivera> Hm, question, nolimitsoya, after I finish installing ubuntu on the remaining partitions, is there some nice and pretty boot loader thing that lets me choose which OS to boot into?
[09:52] <eztk> humanprototype:
[09:52] <nolimitsoya> drivera, exactly :)
[09:52] <drivera> Marvelous.
[09:52] <YoG> hi, anyone here using lirc?
[09:52] <Tamed_G> hello all
[09:52] <HumanPrototype> eztk, if you want gnome only then bonfire of whatever its now called should work
[09:52] <eztk> lol humanprototype
[09:53] <eztk> thanks humanprototype
[09:53] <ReinH> I appreciate your help, folks
[09:53] <eztk> :)
[09:53] <Linuturk> I need a usenet reader for gnome
[09:53] <scott_> what's that package in the repos that makes the gnome panel prettier or more advanced? I swear I remember reading that somewhere
[09:53] <eztk> linuturk: i like pan
[09:53] <freakabcd> Linuturk, pan
[09:53] <eztk> anymore for pan? lol
[09:53] <freakabcd> haha
[09:53] <Linuturk> lol
[09:53] <Linuturk> thanks, I'll look into it
[09:53] <Linuturk> repos?
[09:53] <freakabcd> repos?
[09:53] <scott_> repository
[09:53] <freakabcd> must be in universe or multiverse
[09:53] <freakabcd> surely
[09:53] <Tamed_G> is there anyone who would be able to spare some time helping me with these nasty ATi drivers on an x64 system?
[09:53] <Linuturk> yes, it is in the repository?
[09:54] <freakabcd> theres no need to have a special repo for pan
[09:54] <Tampler> scott_   try gdesklet
[09:54] <LittleFireCracke> alsa is multithreaded right?
[09:54] <scott_> Tampler: thanks! I think that might be it
[09:54] <eztk> im gonna try and burn the vista RC1 disk and try to install it as a virtual machine in ubuntu
[09:54] <HumanPrototype> Tamed_G, try automatix
[09:54] <eztk> tip for all you new Ubuntu users - go and get EasyUbuntu !!
[09:54] <eztk> add codecs and other missing bits for you
[09:55] <freakabcd> Linuturk, ubotu says Version 0.14.2.91-4ubuntu6 is in repos
[09:55] <YoG> hi, can someone help me setup lirc? please?
[09:55] <Linuturk> thanks everyone
[09:55] <Linuturk> :)
[09:55] <eztk> humanprototype - cant find bonfire in synaptic software manager
[09:55] <atlef> so far automatix is better
[09:55] <THX-1138> !easyubuntu
[09:55] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:55] <atlef> !automatix
[09:55] <Tamed_G> what is automatix - sorry my virgin voyage into linux
[09:55] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:55] <eztk> !bonfire
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bonfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <Tamed_G> ahh
[09:55] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to control which modules start on boot?
[09:55] <eztk> !iso
[09:55] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:55] <Tamed_G> ok I'll give it a shot
[09:55] <freakabcd> Tamed_G, damn. you're virgin no more ;)
[09:56] <Tamed_G> lol
[09:56] <Tamed_G> yeah my head hurts already
[09:56] <freakabcd> haha
[09:56] <bushblows> what is error 18 on grub loader
[09:56] <HumanPrototype> chuckyp, try looking at /etc/modules
[09:56] <eztk> !beryl
[09:56] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[09:56] <eztk> beryl rocks :)
[09:57] <chuckyp> HumanPrototype: yeah its not in there.  I'm trying to stop the nvidia module from loading
[09:57] <freakabcd> eztk, i agree
[09:57] <freakabcd> it even works great on my crappy i810 on the laptop!
[09:57] <eztk> freakabcd: we agree on two things already :)
[09:57] <HumanPrototype> chuckyp, oh just go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the Driver "nvidia" bit to Driver "nv" to use the open source nvidia driver
[09:57] <eztk> freakabcd: what do you use to burn .iso's on to dvd / cd ?
[09:57] <HumanPrototype> chuckyp, why dont you want nvidia?
[09:57] <freakabcd> k3b
[09:58] <eztk> freakabcd: does that work ok on gnome?
[09:58] <freakabcd> hell yeah. works great
[09:58] <freakabcd> i haven't seen a cd/dvd burning app as good as k3b on linux
[09:58] <HumanPrototype> eztk yes it should, if u dont like the theme then install the qt control center
[09:58] <daverab> Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with audio preview. I have vorbis-tools and mpg123 installed, but it isn't currently working.
[09:58] <eztk> cool, thanks freakabcd
[09:59] <freakabcd> the built-in one in nautilus or whatever is ok i guess. but is the more familiar interface to people coming from windows land
[10:02] <Tamed_G> hrmmm doesn't seem to be an option for ati drivers in automatix
[10:02] <HumanPrototype> eztk, http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bonfire/
[10:03] <bishopek> DOes ubuntu have an netinstall iso?
[10:03] <daverab> anyone have an idea what would cause issues with audio preview?
[10:03] <HumanPrototype> eztk, thats the bonfire/brasero website
[10:03] <HumanPrototype> eztk, but it looks like its down so go for kde instead
[10:03] <bushblows> bishopek, the link is on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[10:03] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, is hat the built-in burner thing in nautilus ?
[10:03] <bishopek> bushblows: Thank You
[10:03] <bishopek> :-)
[10:04] <bushblows> np
[10:04] <freakabcd> eztk, apt-get install k3b
[10:04] <atlef> Tamed_G : automatix bleeder installs ati
[10:04] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, no - its a burning program that is designed for gnome as a k3b replacement
[10:04] <SonicvanaJr> !ati
[10:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:04] <Tamed_G> oh ok thanks
[10:05] <Tamed_G> yeah I've been through that wiki about 5 times but still getting an error
[10:05] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd + eztk, its also on sourceforge if you are interested http://sourceforge.net/projects/bonfire/
[10:05] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, sourceforget.net/projects/bonfire
[10:06] <bishopek> bushblows: But that's not it. I'm looking for a netinstall .iso - just something smaller than ~670MB that I could download, burn, and start the installation process from
[10:06] <freakabcd> bah
[10:06] <freakabcd> its hosted on sf.net
[10:06] <freakabcd> only the home page is n that .fr domain
[10:06] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, whats wrong with sf.net?
[10:06] <Tamed_G> hrm bleeder no good for amd64
[10:06] <freakabcd> nothing wrong with sf.net
[10:06] <daverab> I don't even have the musical note icon on hover....
[10:07] <freakabcd> i meant its much nicer if the homepage is hosted on sf as well
[10:07] <freakabcd> cos then you don't have this kind of thing happening: i.e home page not available but everything else is: screenshots, downloads, cvs, etc.
[10:08] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, ah ok, well i guess we cant have everything (otherwise linux would be the os of choice and would have great gaing support)
[10:08] <Karol84PL> Hello, does anyone know any application for reading .lit (Microsoft Reader Ebooks) files on Linux?
[10:08] <freakabcd> microsoft Reader ?
[10:08] <freakabcd> what the heck is that?
[10:08] <davvs> is there any way to move the cursor position from the commandline?
[10:08] <bishopek> bushblows: Any ideas?
[10:08] <freakabcd> some kind of anti-acrobat reader for anti-pdf ?
[10:08] <THX-1138> Books with DRM - interesting
[10:09] <whyso> hi, im trying to install, but when i get the initial install menu i hit install or start ubuntu and it just says "loading" but it doesnt read from the CD, whats the problem? thanks
[10:09] <HumanPrototype> davvs, use the arrow keys
[10:09] <davvs> HumanPrototype, how?
[10:09] <davvs> HumanPrototype, i mean move the mousecursor :P
[10:09] <freakabcd> hah mouse cursor
[10:09] <HumanPrototype> davvs, use the mouse?
[10:10] <freakabcd> on a console or inside the X graphical inerface?
[10:10] <HumanPrototype> davvs why do you need to move it?
[10:10] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, err.. ever heard of accessibility?
[10:10] <Karol84PL> freakabcd: http://www.microsoft.com/reader/ - look at this
[10:10] <whyso> plz a lil help :( do i have a bad cd?
[10:10] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, i was asking why he wanted to type commands to move the mouse cursor
[10:10] <freakabcd> type commands?
[10:10] <davvs> HumanPrototype,  i need to move it to another dispaly which is 5000 pixels to the right, i cant move it to that display just by moving the mouse, i need to send it to some coodrinates
[10:11] <freakabcd> he never said 'what commands to use to move the cursor', did he?
[10:11] <davvs> yes freakabcd i need to be able to move the mousecursor i mean
[10:12] <THX-1138> davvs - use xev to find coordinates - not sure how to set up your program
[10:12] <freakabcd> and why couldn;t you move the mouse?
[10:12] <RawSushi> What would be the best thing to start out with for Linux development?
[10:12] <codecaine> thers a usb hd thats not letting me do smb share when I take it off I can what could cause this problem its the only portable hd thats doing it
[10:12] <VViki> im running the live CD with 512MB RAM, will I be able to download ubuntu ISO?
[10:12] <RawSushi> for X
[10:12] <whyso>  hi, im trying to install, but when i get the initial install menu i hit install or start ubuntu and it just says "loading" but it doesnt read from the CD, whats the problem? thanks
[10:12] <clearzen> does anyone know how I would go about routing all local traffic on my network through a specific interface?
[10:12] <davvs> i have two monitors and i want to move it to the other one, but it is "too far away" to just drag it there
[10:13] <XiXaQ> clearzen, are you talking about Network Address Translation, NAT?
[10:13] <freakabcd> davvs, and what will you do once your mouse cursor is over this window on the 'unconnected' monitor ?
[10:13] <HumanPrototype> davvs, i dont know any cursor commands but couldnt you just boost the mouse speed loads and move it normally?
[10:13] <RawSushi> I found Lazarus and I like that alright, but is there anything better, less buggy, easier?
[10:13] <eztk> thanks humanprototype
[10:13] <davvs> HumanPrototype, yea i guess that would work but... :P
[10:14] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, yeah.. 5000 pixels is nothing. its not going to take him minutes
[10:14] <Aphex_Twin> what's the difference between generational and non-generational garbage collection?
[10:14] <davvs> freakabcd, i want to click on some menu. im playing a dvd movie on the other monitor
[10:14] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, i can move over 1000 in under a second so i make that about 5 seconds max
[10:14] <dmb> is there a way i can reinstall all packages that are in ubuntu-base?
[10:14] <clearzen>  XiXaQ: no, I have NAT enabled and I am routing all outside traffic through one interface. However the internal netwok uses it as well and I don't want it to.
[10:15] <freakabcd> davvs, huh? you're playing a dvd movie ononnected on an unconnected monitor?
[10:15] <atlef> whyso : have you checked the cd for errors
[10:15] <THX-1138> synaptic can generate a package donload script for you.
[10:15] <freakabcd> who is watching? your friendly ghost ?
[10:15] <whyso> same thing : loading... forever
[10:15] <blu3fir3> hey someone can tell me if DivX 5 codec is comewhere for ubuntu 6.06 ? only got divx 4
[10:15] <HumanPrototype> dmb remove and reinstall it?
[10:15] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, I found a possible solutions to my problem http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=USB_mic_on_Linux
[10:15] <atlef> whyso : then it's most likely a bad burn
[10:16] <dmb> HumanPrototype: well, i guess that would work
[10:16] <atlef> whyso : where did you downloadP?
[10:16] <davvs> freakabcd, yes, i dont want to accedently move the cursor to the monitor so that the menus will pop up. the other display is a tv:-)
[10:16] <HumanPrototype> dmb, what have you uninstalled?
[10:16] <whyso> from the official site
[10:16] <dmb> HumanPrototype: no, i want reinstall every package thats in ubuntu-base metapackage
[10:16] <whyso> just reburn it?
[10:16] <freakabcd> davvs, wait. its a tv. so you can 'see' where the heck the cursor is, right?
[10:16] <atlef> whyso : torrent or ?
[10:16] <HumanPrototype> dmb to get them to reconfigure?
[10:17] <freakabcd> why not move the mouse while watching the tv ?
[10:17] <whyso> ubuntu.com/download
[10:17] <dmb> HumanPrototype: im having some bigtime problems with problems on this box right now
[10:17] <freakabcd> i don;t understand what you're trying to do.
[10:17] <fdoving> dmb: apt-cache depends ubuntu-standard|grep Depends|sed s/Depends://g|xargs apt-get -s install --reinstall
[10:17] <freakabcd> and why will the 'menus' popup as soon as the mouse is over the app?
[10:17] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, he wants to restrict his mouse to the normal monitor so he doesnt slip on to the tv when he moves to the edge of the screen
[10:17] <freakabcd> is this some weird app where the menu shows up as soon as there is mouse move-ment?
[10:17] <fdoving> dmb: run that in a root-shell, and remove the -s after apt-get when you really want to do it. '-s' is for simulate.
[10:17] <dmb> oh
[10:17] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, no he doesn't
[10:18] <atlef> whyso : the iso file could be corrupted, or the media you burn to is bad
[10:18] <freakabcd> he wants to move it to the tv so he can click something
[10:18] <dmb> HumanPrototype: anyway, these are the problems im having: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=277345
[10:18] <whyso> ah ok thanks, ill try a diff burn program
[10:18] <freakabcd> but while doing so he wants to position the cursor absolutely on some position on the tv without any movement inbetween
[10:18] <davvs> freakabcd, if i have two monitors side-by-side, when im watching a movie on one of them on fullscreen and then accedently moves the mouse to it some menus will pop up ruining the fullscreen
[10:18] <whyso> is the default windows burner ok?
[10:18] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, so the console command lets him use the mouse on the tv when he needs to change video or summat
[10:19] <freakabcd> davvs, what lame ass applition do you use for playing the movie?
[10:19] <davvs> yes in a dvd movie, there's menus in the begninning
[10:19] <Jay2> I'm new to Ubuntu, so far so good but I'm at a lose to network it to my windows computer
[10:19] <davvs> freakabcd, totem, mplayer, they all shows the menu in the beginning to choose from subs/language/chapters and such
[10:19] <Jay2> any suggestions
[10:20] <HumanPrototype> davvs,  could you get it set so u could only trave l through a corner rather than a side
[10:20] <freakabcd> davvs, you using the dvd-menu patch for mplayer?
[10:20] <dmb> fdoving: sorry, but what would i do to have it do that to ubuntu-desktop?
[10:20] <fdoving> dmb: can you open a terminal and check your /etc/hosts file? is your hostname listed there?
[10:20] <freakabcd> davvs, even so why the heck would mplayer show some pop-up when you move the mouse over the video?
[10:20] <fdoving> dmb: change 'ubuntu-standard' to 'ubuntu-desktop'
[10:20] <freakabcd> iknow for certain that is not the case
[10:20] <atlef> whyso : cdburnerxp, nero ,alcohol120. don't think default windows program burns iso files
[10:20] <dmb> fdoving: yep, 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain laptux
[10:21] <HumanPrototype> Jay2, what do you want to do on the win xp machine? file sharing, print sharing or just internet connection sharing?
[10:21] <fdoving> dmb: laptux is the name of your machine?
[10:21] <dmb> fdoving: yes
[10:21] <fdoving> dmb: 'cat /etc/hostname' what does it say?
[10:21] <Jay2> file sharing and print sharing\
[10:21] <dmb> laptux
[10:21] <kane77> hi, is there some app or something to show programs in various desktops?
[10:21] <fdoving> dmb: ok, good, what does 'hostname' say?
[10:21] <almimoni> hi, after i connect to msn, gaim close him self, how can i fix it?
[10:21] <freakabcd> davvs, i will believe that 'mplayer shows some popup crap the moment it see the mouse cursor moving over he video' only if you post that statement to #mplayer and they agree\
[10:22] <dmb> laptux
[10:22] <dmb> fdoving: says the same for both
[10:22] <ssdd534> hi... ive recently tried to install ubuntu back onto my server... but near the end of the installation i get an error "Installer Crashed" I retryed and got the same thing... what may be the cause of this?
[10:22] <fdoving> dmb: ok, good, now check that the 'lo' network interface is up. with 'ifconfig' is there a section for 'lo' ?
[10:22] <whyso> k used acohol 120 wish me luck :)
[10:22] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, open totem, set it to full screen, then move the mouse and watch that bar at the bottom appear
[10:22] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, we are speaking of mplayer
[10:23] <atlef> whyso : good luck
[10:23] <freakabcd> not some crappy player like totem
[10:23] <whyso> ty :)
[10:23] <almimoni> hi, after i connect to msn, gaim close him self, how can i fix it?
[10:23] <dmb> fdoving: there is not
[10:23] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, does that do the same?
[10:23] <davvs> HumanPrototype, yes i can, but if i do, i might accedently go into that corner :P
[10:23] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, i cant test that one
[10:23] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, mplayer has no menus
[10:23] <Weber> How do I change permissions on a file in terminal?
[10:23] <fdoving> dmb: ah, ok. try to run 'sudo ifup lo'
[10:23] <freakabcd> and if you want to get the osd menu, you have to bind some key to it
[10:23] <cmiller> I ejected my usb hard drive and now its not showing up when i plug it in? How do I fix this?
[10:23] <freakabcd> and theres no dvd-menus at present
[10:23] <Jay2> human, I have internet on both machines - cable connection to a router
[10:24] <freakabcd> theres a patch for that though. its still not in svn though cos some work needs to be done in refactoring
[10:24] <finalbeta> !webcam
[10:24] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:24] <dmb> fdoving: /etc/network/interfaces:86: too few parameters for iface line
[10:24] <dmb> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[10:24] <fdoving> dmb: ah.. explains alot.
[10:24] <Refrozen> So, I'm working on an update to the Edgy beta, because I'm getting impatient.
[10:24] <freakabcd> finalbeta, should i thank you?
[10:24] <Refrozen> Any major issues I'm likely to run in to when I reboot here?
[10:24] <fdoving> dmb: 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces'
[10:24] <freakabcd> i'm not sure. if that page talks about logitech quickcam, i surely will :)
[10:25] <finalbeta> freakabcd, You may, but I have no idea why? :p
[10:25] <finalbeta> ah,
[10:25] <dmb> fdoving: ok, want me to pastebin it?
[10:25] <freakabcd> cos i've been searching for many hours how the heck to get my logitech quickcam working
[10:25] <finalbeta> it does.
[10:25] <fdoving> dmb: yes please.
[10:25] <davvs> freakabcd, i didn't manage to start the dvd in mplayer
[10:25] <ssdd534> What would cause the installer to crash during an install? (2 times this happened)
[10:25] <finalbeta> But my trust 300 spacecam is unsupported :/
[10:25] <freakabcd> davvs, mplayer dvd://
[10:25] <davvs> freakabcd, then what?
[10:25] <ricky> hey everyone
[10:25] <freakabcd> what do you mean?
[10:26] <HumanPrototype> davvs, could you run a seperate x server on it then use mplayer and pipe commands to it by running it from a term on your main desktop
[10:26] <davvs> freakabcd, will that command start it?
[10:26] <Hazuki> hai people
[10:26] <freakabcd> if you use mplayer dvd:// it will start with the first chapter and continue untill there are no more chapters
[10:26] <freakabcd> it will start playing the dvd
[10:26] <dmb> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26801/
[10:26] <davvs> HumanPrototype, how do i pipe commands between mplayer(s)?
[10:26] <SAM_theman> brb
[10:26] <HumanPrototype> davvs, i dont think you would need to
[10:26] <freakabcd> davvs, pipe commands between mplayers?
[10:27] <freakabcd> you mean an mplayer instance and some console or app ?
[10:27] <SurfnKid> is there a usb-ide driver for linux that i can use when connecting a usb-ide cable ?
[10:27] <davvs> freakabcd, ok, thanks. but on this particular movie, it said something about encryption and patent and the picture was all messed up
[10:27] <freakabcd> davvs, this discussion is really for #mplayer and use us mplayer in slave mode for your information
[10:27] <freakabcd> davvs, yes. again a topic for #mplayer.
[10:27] <davvs> ah ok- yes i guess mplayer is better than totem
[10:27] <davvs> okok freakabcd
[10:28] <freakabcd> my god, you just discovered that :)
[10:28] <davvs> but hey, totem is more simple
[10:28] <HumanPrototype> davvs, im just testing something but i think you can run mplayer from a console on a second x server (on the second tv) and control it in that term
[10:28] <fdoving> dmb: try to add on separate lines, just below 'iface lo inet loopback', 'address 127.0.0.1' \n 'netmask 255.0.0.0' where \n is next line.
[10:28] <freakabcd> man, i used to use mplayer back in the old days when the project started. it was fun
[10:28] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, davvs ofcourse you can do that
[10:29] <freakabcd> thats easy as pie: mplayer dvd:// -xineramascreen 1
[10:29] <HumanPrototype> davvs, run mplayer in the term and it tells you what it will do
[10:29] <freakabcd> then use the console for forward back, etc.
[10:29] <davvs> aha
[10:29] <davvs> but will i need to boot up 2 xservers?
[10:29] <freakabcd> if its using xinerama ofcrouse. otherwise just use -screen
[10:29] <davvs> or can i just use one with 2 displays?
[10:30] <freakabcd> davvs, how do you have your X configured at the moment?
[10:30] <cmiller> I ejected my usb hard drive and now its not showing up when i plug it in? How do I fix this?
[10:30] <davvs> i have one xserver with 2 dispalys and they are far away from each others
[10:30] <davvs> and the mouse can never go to the tv-display
[10:30] <freakabcd> ok,  so you have 2 screens ?
[10:30] <davvs> yes
[10:31] <davvs> 0.1 and 0.2
[10:31] <freakabcd> screen as in 'Screen in terms of xorg.conf'
[10:31] <VViki> do you know an linux ISO that is under 400mb????????????
[10:31] <dmb> fdoving: this is the new file:
[10:31] <dmb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26802/
[10:31] <Kyral> VViki: Damn Small Linux
[10:31] <HumanPrototype> VViki, google for damn small linux
[10:31] <ruzgar> if there is a ubuntu developer in channel pls look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270826&highlight=turkish+f
[10:31] <davvs> yes there's 2 of them freakabcd
[10:31] <HumanPrototype> VViki, or some of the net install cds like the one for debian
[10:32] <fdoving> dmb: correct. now save and exit nano. and paste the output of 'stat -c %a /etc/network/interfaces'
[10:33] <rmd_> is there anything in the standard Ubuntu repositories that will lock the terminal after a certain amount of time for a certain amount of time, thereby forcing a break from typing?
[10:33] <HumanPrototype> rmd_ are you using gnome?
[10:33] <freakabcd> davvs, oh man. its so o easy
[10:33] <rmd_> i am using gnome, yes.
[10:33] <dmb> fdoving: 644 was the output
[10:34] <HumanPrototype> rmd_, then just use keyboard in preferences under system
[10:34] <freakabcd> davvs, mplayer dvd:// -fs -screen :0.2
[10:34] <fdoving> dmb: ok, that's good. now try 'sudo ifup lo' again.
[10:34] <rmd_> wow.
[10:34] <rmd_> i did not know that was there.
[10:34] <rmd_> thank you very much.
[10:34] <dmb> /etc/network/interfaces:88: too few parameters for iface line
[10:34] <dmb> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[10:34] <dmb> still
[10:34] <davvs> yes it works now, thanks freakabcd
[10:34] <rmd_> does the clock for that run while there is no typing?
[10:34] <freakabcd> davvs, and you can control everything from that term which started mplayer
[10:35] <reccan> Will Edgy have Subversion 1.4?
[10:35] <davvs> do you think there's a way to control it from a gui?
[10:35] <freakabcd> reccan, question for #ubuntu+1
[10:35] <reccan> ah, ok
[10:35] <freakabcd> davvs, what gui?
[10:35] <freakabcd> theres gmplayer and theres a kmplayer. but i dunno if they are any good
[10:35] <VViki> is DSL updateable like ubuntu? click update and your are set?
[10:35] <SurfnKid> um
[10:35] <SurfnKid> guys how do i mount a usb disk?
[10:35] <freakabcd> gmplayer comes along with the mplayer source.
[10:36] <HumanPrototype> VViki, why do you need such a small iso?
[10:36] <freakabcd> so it might be already installed
[10:36] <davvs> any gui, we're many ppl sharing the computer and some of us doesnt like using terminals and remembering commands
[10:36] <freakabcd> kmplaye is a seperate project
[10:36] <SurfnKid> it shows in my usb list  /proc/dev/usb/*
[10:36] <Kyral> VViki: DSL is a very lightweight distro designed to work with low power machines
[10:36] <VViki> because i need whatever linux can be burned in a CD and downloaded ver very fast
[10:36] <freakabcd> gmplayer should be ok i think (still has problems though)
[10:36] <bran> is there a PPC specific Ubuntu channel?
[10:36] <Kyral> you sacrafice  some user friendlyness for this
[10:36] <Centaur5> Does anyone know if gaim will let you add an aol user on your yahoo account since they joined forces?
[10:37] <HumanPrototype> VViki, a live cd or installable distro?
[10:37] <davvs> freakabcd,  so, its possible to start the contol gui on one display and the movie window on another?
[10:37] <Kyral> (Granted it installs as Debian so..)
[10:37] <antigroove> is there a better irc client than xchat?
[10:37] <freakabcd> thats what i'm not sure of
[10:37] <VViki> I have the bandwdith to download ISOs, but I cant download any. I need a download manager capable of multiple parts download, otherwise the download goes at 6kbs
[10:37] <bran> antigroove: IRSSI
[10:37] <antigroove> lol
[10:37] <freakabcd> actually gmplayer is built that way.
[10:37] <HumanPrototype> antigroove, some people like the terminal chat clients
[10:37] <Kyral> Konversation :P
[10:37] <freakabcd> cos the control stuff and the video window are 2 windows
[10:37] <freakabcd> so i guess it could work.
[10:37] <antigroove> i'll check those two out.  thanks much.
[10:37] <HumanPrototype> VViki, kget?
[10:38] <Kyral> (Granted thats on my desktop, on my laptop its Irssi FTW)
[10:38] <VViki> with 512MB ppl said that I wont be able to download any ISO while running a live distro
[10:38] <Kyral> Irssi + Screen == Awesomeness
[10:38] <bran> Kyral: exactly
[10:38] <freakabcd> davvs, depends on the skin i think. and probably more on the gmplayer architecturereally
[10:38] <fdoving> dmb: strange. very strange. try 'sudo ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1'
[10:38] <VViki> kget?
[10:38] <Kyral> VViki: 512 MB of what?
[10:38] <antigroove> kyral: what do you mean screen?
[10:38] <VViki> ram
[10:38] <Kyral> VViki: They are talking out of their asses
[10:38] <freakabcd> davvs, cos sometimes these crappy grouped windows tend to move together between screens(etc.)
[10:38] <dmb> fdoving: that worked
[10:39] <rmd_> is there no HTML editor in the standard Ubuntu repositories?
[10:39] <freakabcd> for example xchat and its d/l dialog
[10:39] <Kyral> (This is what swap partitions are for)
[10:39] <HumanPrototype> VViki, kget is a download manager for kde
[10:39] <davvs> ok... but cant it be done some way with pipes?
[10:39] <jrib> rmd_: gedit?
[10:39] <truiu> rmd_:  try bluefish
[10:39] <freakabcd> davvs, what pipes?
[10:39] <Kyral> rmd_: Vim?
[10:39] <davvs> you know "|"
[10:39] <fdoving> dmb: is your computer behaving correctly now?
[10:39] <dmb> fdoving: whats weird is it doesn't seem to start any of my other interfaces either
[10:39] <zool2005> rmd_: gedit
[10:39] <rmd_> i didn't find bluefish in a search
[10:39] <dmb> i have to start them manuelly
[10:39] <rmd_> neither did it find NVU
[10:39] <freakabcd> davvs, i meant what do you mean by pipesfor gui
[10:39] <davvs> like ls -l | grep .txt
[10:39] <dmb> fdoving: testing right now
[10:39] <jrib> rmd_: have you enabled universe?
[10:39] <timruff> voila ca recomance
[10:40] <jrib> !fr
[10:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:40] <Kyral> !info bluefish
[10:40] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB
[10:40] <rmd_> no.  i was asking about standard repositories.
[10:40] <rmd_> !info nvu
[10:40] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[10:40] <Kyral> Universe is standard...
[10:40] <freakabcd> davvs, there is an mplayer 'slave' mode. which is very useful to control the mplayer instance from an external app.
[10:40] <timruff> c'ets bizard mon ordi tlcharge quelque chose  3170 ko/s
[10:40] <davvs> i dont know really, but there should be some program that just sends out info for mplayer to take in via a pipe
[10:40] <Kyral> Main is just like is what is needed on the Install CD
[10:40] <HumanPrototype> rmd_, add universe and multiverse then use bluefish - its great for webdesign
[10:40] <davvs> aha
[10:40] <jrib> timruff: #ubuntu-fr for french please
[10:40] <freakabcd> but the thing is i don;t think gmplayer uses slave mode mplayer. its a bi more integrated
[10:40] <VVIki> damn
[10:40] <VVIki> xwindow crashed
[10:40] <rmd_> Kyral: Universe is not standard.
[10:40] <VVIki> it logged me off and then logged me in
[10:41] <freakabcd> davvs, uh. i thought you wanted a gui
[10:41] <davvs> so how can slave mode be used then?
[10:41] <timruff> escuse me
[10:41] <rmd_> It does not come selected after a fresh install.
[10:41] <Kyral> rmd_: Tell that to the MOTUs :P
[10:41] <jrib> depends on your definition of "standard"
[10:41] <VVIki> kget?
[10:41] <HumanPrototype> rmd_, if you want wysiwyg then nvu is probably your best bet
[10:41] <VVIki> is kget able to split multi part downloads?
[10:41] <whyso> hi, it says loading forever when i do anything past the origional CD menu
[10:41] <davvs> yea, i did. but why cant gui apps be used in pipes?
[10:41] <rmd_> "Standard" meaning selected after a fresh install without having to edit the repositories on your own.
[10:41] <dmb> fdoving: yep, everything works now, but i still have to figure out the story with the interfaces file
[10:41] <whyso> any ideas to help?
[10:41] <Kyral> davvs: because they don't use STDIN and STDOUT
[10:41] <dmb> fdoving: can you paste yours?
[10:42] <davvs> sure the do Kyral for debug messages and such
[10:42] <profoX`> can you see what device my dvdrom device is in the live cd ? can i just see that in fstab ?
[10:42] <Kyral> davvs: what are you trying to do anyway
[10:42] <HumanPrototype> rmd_, whats wrong with universe?
[10:42] <freakabcd> davvs, say you write your program in C: you open a child process 'mplayer -slave' then you can send commands to this mplayer procvess from your program
[10:42] <fdoving> dmb: yours looks just fine, i think it might be something else. can you paste the output of 'stat -c %a /etc/' and 'stat -c %a /etc/network/' ?
[10:42] <freakabcd> davvs, your idea of pipes is wrong
[10:42] <Kyral> rmd_: Universe is very much standard
[10:42] <freakabcd> for gui apps they need to use sockets or some other form of ipc
[10:43] <davvs> hmm.. yes maybe :P im new to the idea
[10:43] <rmd_> HumanPrototype, Kyral: I'm sorry you think I am implying that something is "wrong" with the Universe repository.
[10:43] <dmb>  /etc is 755
[10:43] <davvs> like semaphores
[10:43] <Kyral> rmd_: No, I just think your notion of what Universe is is skewed :P
[10:43] <dmb> same with /etc/network
[10:43] <bran> this channel is too big for ease-of-use sakes lol
[10:43] <HumanPrototype> rmd_, no, im just wondering why you cant use it
[10:43] <almimoni> hi, after i connect to msn, gaim close him self, how do i fix it?
[10:43] <Kyral> rmd_: Main is the stuff like mission critical to the system
[10:43] <rmd_> Kyral: Universe is not standard in that it is not searched automatically.  A user has to select it manually in order to search it.
[10:43] <freakabcd> davvs, semaphores are _not_ a communication medium.
[10:43] <freakabcd> they are a synchronisation tool
[10:43] <VVIki> help me? Ive mounted my HD and placed a mouting point folder on my desktop, but that folder is read only, what do I do?
[10:43] <fdoving> dmb: really strange. can you hold on for 3 mins? I have to make some food for my kid.
[10:44] <Kyral> rmd_: You can find on any installed CD (Correct me if I am wrong) the entire Main repo
[10:44] <HumanPrototype> VVIki, is that a windows partition?
[10:44] <davvs> ok, but they can be used with shared memory
[10:44] <freakabcd> fdoving, can i have some too? i;m hungry :)
[10:44] <VVIki> ext3 partition
[10:44] <rmd_> Kyral: which is why you keep saying ignorant things.  You have no idea what my notion of "Universe" is.  You know only that I have stated the obvious, that it is not selected after a fresh install, that the user must tell Synaptic to search it.
[10:44] <Kyral> Universe is WAAY too big to fit on the Install CD
[10:44] <whyso> could anyone help me?
[10:44] <dmb> fdoving: sure
[10:44] <fdoving> freakabcd: sure, just come over :)
[10:44] <Kyral> rmd_: I apologize then
[10:44] <Kyral> I'm very opinionated :P
[10:44] <freakabcd> but you're probably thousands of miles away
[10:44] <freakabcd> :(
[10:45] <remu> im in need of some dire help, i am a new linux user, and i tried to install xgl, as well as ntfs-3g, to no luck, ive tried to install this stuff using a few different turoials, but i seem to keep having problems, any help would be greatly appreciated
[10:45] <davvs> hehe.. well well i must go to the tv, ive missed half the film by now
[10:45] <HumanPrototype> VVIki, sudo chmod a+rwx -R /path/to/mountpoint
[10:45] <davvs> cye, cheers
[10:45] <dmb> fdoving: im going to do reboot for a sec, non-related to this problem
[10:45] <rmd_> No apology needed.  I'm just saying it is not standard because it isn't, widely used and useful as it is.
[10:45] <freakabcd> davvs, just rewind
[10:45] <freakabcd> keep pressing downarrow key
[10:45] <remu> can someone help out?
[10:45] <davvs> i dont think the ppl watching the movie will agree :P
[10:45] <freakabcd> it will seek to the the start
[10:45] <freakabcd> haha
[10:45] <freakabcd> ok
[10:45] <davvs> thanks anyway bye
[10:45] <freakabcd> no worries
[10:45] <VVIki> HumanPrototype, im downloading kget
[10:46] <freakabcd> davvs, if you have any more queries about mplayer. best to ask in #mplayer
[10:46] <pingswept> remu: I think you'll have more luck if you ask a more specific question.
[10:46] <HumanPrototype> VVIki, that should let u download faster i hope
[10:46] <SurfnKid> what tha hell
[10:47] <VVIki> does it support multiple sources?
[10:47] <freakabcd> SurfnKid, what hell are we talking about?
[10:47] <SurfnKid> when i invoke /proc/dev/usb/*  the devices come up, and then i check lsusb and the device shows up. but after 3 seconds,  lsusb doesnt show the device anymore
[10:47] <Jay2> I'm new to Ubuntu, so far so good but I'm lost when I try to network my Ubuntu computer to my windows computer. Both computers are currently connected to cable via a router. I wish to be able to work on openoffice files and use a single printer. Can anyone tell me how to set this up
[10:47] <gre1> how do i get a linksys WMP54g adaptor to work on ubuntu?
[10:48] <HumanPrototype> Jay2, to share files you need to use samba
[10:48] <SurfnKid> i have to invoke /proc/dev/usb/* once again for lsusb to show it, what thaaa
[10:48] <freakabcd> SurfnKid, and /var/log/messages shows that the devices were disconnected or some such after this3 second period?
[10:48] <HumanPrototype> J2 to share a printer you can use cups
[10:48] <SurfnKid> let me check
[10:48] <erUSUL> !samba > Jay2
[10:48] <Zaggynl> Filemon > lsof
[10:48] <erUSUL> !cups > Jay2
[10:48] <freakabcd> uh, whats with all the redirection? :)
[10:48] <DigitalNinja> I'm running samba ( binary version ) and need to switch to the source version. How do I do this?
[10:48] <gre1> how do i get a linksys WMP54g adaptor to work on ubuntu?
[10:49] <HumanPrototype> gre1, try looking at the guide in the wiki
[10:49] <SurfnKid> freakabcd, ohh a bunch of stuff came up.  How can i read /var/log/messages real time
[10:49] <Aileran> Beer > Aileran
[10:49] <freakabcd> SurfnKid, tail -f /var/log/messages
[10:49] <Zaggynl> whoa
[10:50] <Samuli^> DigitalNinja, I don't understand why you need to, but remove samba and then install new via apt-get source something.
[10:50] <HumanPrototype> gre1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[10:50] <reztho> hi
[10:50] <Zaggynl> 'strace lsof -r 5' == filemon
[10:51] <SurfnKid> freakabcd, ok cool, so far it shows me the device comes up but its offlined not ready after error recovery
[10:51] <DigitalNinja> Samuli^: I need to compile a module for samba. That's why I need to do this. Now, once I install the source package do I need to compile or build it?
[10:51] <ezsquirt> could i make aptitude say which package has (auto)installed XYZ package ?
[10:51] <exarkun> Loading powernow-k8 fails and adds these lines to `dmesg' output:
[10:51] <remu> how do i add the multiverse and universe repositories? as well as any aditional repositories
[10:51] <exarkun> [19051610.664000]  powernow_k8: disagrees about version of symbol cpu_data
[10:51] <exarkun> [19051610.664000]  powernow_k8: Unknown symbol cpu_data
[10:51] <Jay2> many thanks HumanPrototype and erUSUL
[10:51] <exarkun> Where's the cpu_data symbol?
[10:52] <freakabcd> SurfnKid, unfortunately i cannot help you further. i'm almost dying of hunger and sleep :(
[10:52] <SurfnKid> well get to sleep, and take some munchies with ya
[10:52] <HumanPrototype> remu, take a look at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:52] <SurfnKid> =] 
[10:52] <SurfnKid> brb, switchin to winblowz
[10:52] <freakabcd> yeah, i think i'll go offline now
[10:52] <freakabcd> goodmirning all
[10:52] <SurfnKid> thx for the help
[10:52] <atlef> or night
[10:53] <freakabcd> but its morning here ;)
[10:53] <atlef> hehe
[10:53] <freakabcd> anyway, i'm out
[10:53] <hackel_> Anyone know how I can tell dhclient to force release/renew of an IP address?  Often with my wireless connection, I discover I've lost my IP and end up having to ifdown/up'ing to get it back.
[10:53] <MAPD> http://krunch.servebeer.com/~krunch/vrac/pics/ubuntu-logo.jpg -> OWNS
[10:53] <CharonX> Can anyone think of a simple solution for this ? I have a friend with a .zip file that is a few gig's in size on a windows computer. They are not very strong with computers. Can anyone think of something that would make it easy for them to send me the file and continue sending the file later if it dissconnects ? Instead of starting over ? I would set it up as a bittorrent but there is no way I can explain that to them.  Any ideas ?
[10:54] <hackel_> CharonX:  um...use the File-Transfer-Protocol perhaps?
[10:54] <gansinho> does anyone knows something about kiba dock and could help me?
[10:54] <CharonX> hackel_, good luck even explaining that to them
[10:54] <jordan> gansinho, I do / can.
[10:55] <CharonX> I have that setup but, once it dissconnects they are just starting over
[10:55] <hackel_> CharonX:  Uploading a file via FTP is very easy.  IE even has a built-in FTP client if they don't want to download FileZilla.
[10:55] <freakabcd> hackel_, reading the man page doesn;t help?
[10:55] <VVIki> HumanPrototype, I executed chmod, but the folder icon is still "locked"
[10:55] <{ergo}Proxy> hello there
[10:55] <CharonX> hackel_, how can I get them to resume the file after the connection goes down ?
[10:55] <freakabcd> hackel_, dhclient -r ;: The  -r  flag explicitly releases the current lease, and once the leasehas been released, the client exits.
[10:55] <hackel_> freakabcd:  not much, since it seemed to indicate using "omshell" which I haven't figured out yet.
[10:55] <jordan> gansinho, Do you already have beryl installed?
[10:55] <gansinho> jordan: I done the make/make install but now when I execute "kiba-dock" nothing happens ... =/
[10:55] <DigitalNinja> When I install a source package do I need to compile it?
[10:55] <gansinho> jordan:  yes beryl is perfect
[10:56] <hackel_> CharonX:  They would have to use a real FTP client.  I'm pretty sure FileZilla will do this automatically by default.  Or there is an easy firefox extension they can use.
[10:56] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, Yes
[10:56] <freakabcd> hackel_, why exactly would you want to do this in omshell?
[10:56] <freakabcd> why not just use dhclient?
[10:56] <jordan> gansinho, There is actually a .deb for ubuntu, you don't need to compile it yourself.
[10:56] <CharonX> hackel_, ok, ill look into that
[10:56] <gansinho> jordan:  where?
[10:57] <u4a> hello all
[10:57] <hackel_> freakabcd:  I have no idea, I was just reading trying to figure it out.  So I just have to release and then start dhclient again?  No way to make the running process do both?
[10:57] <DigitalNinja> Crippy-Boy: is that "make && make install" or is there an Ubuntu command that does it for me?
[10:57] <jordan> gansinho, I'm looking for the link...
[10:57] <fdoving> dmb: can you take a look at /etc/network/interfaces again. i think it contains more that the part you pasted to me, in a terminal use 'less /etc/network/interfaces' scroll down with space or the arrow keys. can you paste everything below 'auto wlan0' ?
[10:57] <freakabcd> jordan, more like the main devs _use_ ubuntu and the fastest and initial release packages _are_ for ubuntu
[10:57] <Aileran> VVIki: try refreshing your desktop, if that's where you mounted it
[10:57] <gansinho> jordan: thank you very much
[10:57] <SVG> is there anybody that can help me get my audio card working? I have a 5.1 surround card, and the Device Manager recognizes it, but I'm getting no sound
[10:57] <freakabcd> hackel_, sounds like it from the description of -r. dhclient -r && dhclient
[10:57] <erUSUL> !sound
[10:57] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:57] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, No, you need to do the usual ./configure, make && make install
[10:57] <u4a> does anyone knows how to play realplayer streaming in ubuntu powerpc?
[10:58] <dmb> fdoving: the last thing is auto wlan0
[10:58] <dmb> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[10:58] <freakabcd> u4a, tried mplayer?
[10:58] <hackel_> freakabcd:  Yeah that would work.  I'm sure there's a way to do it with OMAPI/omshell but I don't really feel like figuring it out!
[10:58] <fdoving> dmb: are you sure?
[10:58] <freakabcd> surely it streams fine
[10:58] <dmb> fdoving: yes
[10:59] <SVG> thanks ubotu
[10:59] <{ergo}Proxy> anyone can help me ? i have a problem with vpn cisco, after i installed it and connected to the internet, like said in the ubuntu forum, when i try to update or download smth. my computer hangs
[10:59] <freakabcd> hackel_, and i ask again. why would you want to do it with omshell when you know how to do it with dhclient and it is painless
[10:59] <DigitalNinja> Crippy-Boy: I'm about to do this with samba. Do I need to know all the options for "./configure" or are they in there? I'm just looking fore the default settings. Smae ones in the binary version.
[10:59] <dmb> fdoving: theres a lot of whitespace on the bottom though
[10:59] <mlask> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[10:59] <hackel_> freakabcd:  Because it is the "right" way to do it, I don't have to kill the running process, and it maintains my existing lease files, etc. and ifdown will still know the pid to kill it.
[10:59] <dmb> fdoving: um, some really weird stuff is going on
[11:00] <dmb> i just opened it in nano, and theres more
[11:00] <fdoving> dmb: ok, re-open it with nano: 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces' and delete every thing, including white spaces, below the iface wlan0 line.
[11:00] <dmb> but it doesn't show this in less
[11:00] <freakabcd> if its the right way, then you find out more :) i cannot help you. i just found out what you wanted to do with dhclient
[11:00] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, Im not sure if theres any flags you can use, but im sure you could find that info or you'll probably be ok just doing ./configure
[11:00] <u4a> freakabcd: thanks i think that i don't have installed the codec
[11:00] <jordan> gansinho, I found this but it is not the one I am using, I am still searching for that link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268645
[11:00] <dmb> theres a bynch of these: iface  inet static
[11:00] <dmb> iface
[11:00] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, Is samba not in the repo's
[11:01] <freakabcd> u4a, no worries. mplayer should be able to play the stream fine.
[11:01] <fdoving> dmb: those are the ones making problems for you. delete everything below 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp'
[11:01] <{ergo}Proxy> guys can u help me please
[11:01] <gansinho> jordan: thanks for being so helpfull
[11:01] <dmb> fdoving: actually your were right, i just never scrolled down far enough
[11:01] <dmb> its over 100 lines below that
[11:01] <DigitalNinja> Crippy-Boy: It's in there but I need the source version. I need to compile a module for samba.
[11:01] <Jay2> adios, amigos
[11:01] <freakabcd> {ergo}Proxy / Vincento : unless you ask a question, no one can help you!
[11:02] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, Ahh fair enough, Ive never needed samba :-)
[11:02] <{ergo}Proxy> i have a problem with vpn cisco, after i installed it and connected to the internet, like said in the ubuntu forum, when i try to update or download smth. my computer hangs
[11:02] <jordan> gansinho, No problem, I had to spend about 30 min. trying to compile frome source before I found a .deb :)
[11:02] <{ergo}Proxy> http://www.popey.com/node/62
[11:02] <dmb> fdoving: why would there ever be that anyway in that file
[11:02] <freakabcd> uh, i can;t help.
[11:02] <freakabcd> guys, this time i'm really going to sleep
[11:02] <DigitalNinja> Crippy-Boy: I don't need it either but I have others that use %$^&% and they need to store files on the server
[11:02] <fdoving> dmb: don't know. let's just hope it doesn't come back.
[11:03] <dmb> ifup lo works now
[11:03] <{ergo}Proxy> anyone ?
[11:03] <fdoving> dmb: good, then it'll work on boot too.
[11:03] <dmb> nice
[11:03] <dmb> thanks
[11:03] <{ergo}Proxy> freakabcd thanks anyway :)
[11:03] <fdoving> dmb: and with the 'lo' interface up, your machine will behave nice.
[11:03] <dmb> i should of noticed that there was something 100 lines below everything else
[11:03] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, sftp :-D
[11:04] <eztk> hmmm.something strange going on. still having problems trying to burn an iso on to DVD. k3b cant even detect the dvd drive
[11:04] <eztk> this is wierd
[11:04] <drivera> Stop Fluttering Through Pants?
[11:04] <eztk> maybe the rights have changed
[11:04] <gansinho> jordan:  I miss a dependency =/
[11:04] <dmb> for the longest time i was wondering why my dns server wasn't working(that was the main issue), and lo not being up was the reason
[11:04] <eztk> the dvd drive is definately fine. can see it in device manager
[11:04] <DigitalNinja> Crippy-Boy: Won't work. Nice idea though
[11:04] <Crippy-Boy> Fair enough :-)
[11:05] <gansinho> jordan:  I miss libatk1.0-0
[11:05] <fdoving> dmb: lo is important for the whole system. :)
[11:05] <eztk> hmm
[11:05] <dmb> fdoving: for some reason, gnome-networking would just randmely start working, which is what i didn't get
[11:06] <dmb> i'm asumming its gnome-networking that messed up the config file in the first place
[11:06] <fdoving> dmb: i don't know anything about gnome-networking, i just know the terminal stuff, and kde-things :)
[11:06] <dmb> oh
[11:06] <dmb> anyway, thanks a lot
[11:06] <fdoving> dmb: you're welcome :)
[11:07] <Rapidwolve> Help!
[11:07] <Rapidwolve> When I boot ubuntu from my hard disk it reboots my computer
[11:07] <Rapidwolve> here is my boot.ini
[11:07] <Rapidwolve> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\
[11:08] <Rapidwolve> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\="Ubuntu"
[11:08] <rawler> heya-ppl!
[11:08] <rawler> just wrote my first Spec for Ubuntu! :)
[11:08] <Rapidwolve> Whats wrong with it
[11:09] <{ergo}Proxy> i have a problem with vpn cisco, after i installed it and connected to the internet, like said in the ubuntu forum, when i try to update or download smth. my computer hangs
[11:09] <{ergo}Proxy> can anyone help me please
[11:09] <eztk> can anyone recommend a good virtual machine system for ubuntu? want to play around with vista rc1 within a virtual machine. or would VMWare server be a better choice?
[11:09] <jordan> gansinho, I am still looking for the one that worked for me, are you using Dapper or Edgy?
[11:09] <rawler> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XlessLoginSpec <- please check it out, and tell me what you think.. :)
[11:09] <dmb> fdoving: i think the same thing happened in my hosts file a couple days ago also, there was like a million linebreaks and some uneeded random stuff on the bottom
[11:09] <johnniewalker> anyone know a GOOD amount of memory to allocate for the GM 855 video chipset?
[11:09] <dmb> fdoving: it could be a filesystem problem, although i ran fsck and there was no problems
[11:09] <gansinho> jordan: dapper
[11:09] <johnniewalker> have it set to the 16MB in the faq but still seems slow
[11:10] <gansinho> jordan: It's strange, I have libatk - dev but when I try that package it does not install because I miss libatk ... =/
[11:10] <fdoving> dmb: i have never, during my ~6 years with linux,  experienced anything like that.
[11:11] <dmb> fdoving: i have expereinced a filesystem problem where much of my file in /etc were combined, i opened them and i would see like 1 file then some junk and then start of another file
[11:11] <dmb> that was in the older days when i was using gentoo
[11:12] <harisund> Hello! Can somebody quickly give me a run down of what the framebuffer is and what it does? And why is it that disabling it has so much of an effect while installing from the terminal?
[11:12] <fdoving> dmb: sounds strange.
[11:13] <fdoving> harisund: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framebuffer
[11:13] <remu> when using the command "sudo vi" how do i save and exit this editor?
[11:13] <dmb> fdoving: i don't think i had a journal in the fs back then, so problems probably started happening after power outages and non-synced disks or kernel crashes
[11:13] <fdoving> harisund: it's painfully slow compared to the 'real' console.
[11:13] <jrib> remu: :wq     run 'vimtutor' for a quick lesson
[11:13] <harisund> fdoving, that was the first page I read anyway. I was wondering if somebody here could give me a better explanation than the highly scientific jargon in the Wikipedia
[11:13] <THX-1138> fdoving - I liked your use of sed do you have a link?
[11:13] <jrib> remu: let me correct that to:   ESC :wq
[11:14] <THX-1138> nvm
[11:14] <LjL> remu: and "nano" is a more limited, but also more intuitive text-mode editor
[11:14] <RazvanS> when release ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft ??
[11:14] <jrib> ubotu: tell RazvanS about schedule
[11:14] <LjL> !schedule > RazvanS
[11:14] <fdoving> THX-1138: what use of sed?
[11:15] <remu> well im using a tutorial for installing xgl, and its somewhat confusing me, haha, it switches me back and forth between gedit and vi
[11:15] <yancm> I just installed 6.06-1 alternate using the light installfor low memory systems. I tried fluxbox and icewm, but I can only launch firefox. I cannot launch a shell, telnet or synaptic, or anything other than firefox - even though they show up on hte menu. Any advice?
[11:15] <Justy-> Hello
[11:15] <Justy-> !xchat
[11:15] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[11:15] <THX-1138> apt-cache depends ubuntu-standard|grep Depends|sed s/Depends://g|xargs apt-get -s install --reinstall
[11:15] <jrib> remu: just stick with gedit, or use nano like LjL suggested, if you want a cli editor
[11:15] <nicholaspaul> Q: do i need to keep /var/cache/apt/archives ??
[11:15] <drezha> hi all
[11:15] <drezha> I've mounted a network share on my Ubuntu rig but restarted the other PC...now Ubuntu wont let me do anything to the mount file system
[11:16] <nicholaspaul> Can i just delete them?
[11:16] <remu> i have been using gedit, however, for some reason, when it asks me to chmod it....once i hit enter, nothing really happens
[11:16] <Justy-> Could anyone please inform me about the name of the package "xchat", **not** "xchat-gnome" ?
[11:16] <jrib> nicholaspaul: no, use apt-get clean
[11:16] <LjL> remu, maybe it tells you to use vi in the parts (if any) where you're supposed to have no working X server. however, nano will do
[11:16] <nicholaspaul> jrib: whats that?
[11:16] <LjL> remu: chmod... what?
[11:16] <jrib> nicholaspaul: man apt-get :)
[11:16] <remu> http://www.biodesign.com.ar/blog/?p=16
[11:16] <nicholaspaul> jrib: oh alright!! ;)
[11:17] <clyrrad> Hello room - can someone please tell me how to change the Icon name for mounted shares?  By default it Puts "Remote Share (//blah blah) - I would like to rename it to say something like ShareFolder
[11:17] <jordan> gansinho, This is the one that worked for me on Edgy, it is supposed to work on Dapper also ttp://forum.beryl-project.org/attachment.php?item=2548
[11:17] <nicholaspaul> jrib: thx 4 the tip
[11:17] <remu> for xgl, to chmod the startxgl.sh
[11:17] <grndslm> jrib, isn't aptitude better than apt-get???
[11:17] <jrib> nicholaspaul: it basically deletes everything like you wanted to do, but the man page also tells you about 'autoclean' which you might want instead
[11:17] <LjL> remu: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startxgl.sh? what does that have to do with using gedit as opposed to vi as opposed to whatever editor?
[11:17] <jrib> grndslm: sometimes
[11:17] <gansinho> jordan: thanks a lot!
[11:17] <LjL> remu: and what does "nothing really happens" mean?
[11:17] <remu> it doesnt, im sorry, i should have been more clear
[11:18] <jordan> gansinho, Did it work?
[11:18] <clyrrad> does anyone know how to rename the ICONF mounted shares that gets automatically placed on the desktop?
[11:18] <peter77> Hi when I run my laptop from battery the display doesn't adjust the brightness
[11:18] <gansinho> just a sec
[11:18] <remu> the chmod is a seperate issue, when i type that command in, it just goes onto the next line
[11:18] <clyrrad> ICON*
[11:18] <LjL> remu: nothing is *supposed* to happen. when a command succeeds, it usually tells you nothing. it's when it fails that informs you of an error.
[11:18] <remu> it doesnt seem to give me a prompt
[11:18] <remu> aha, fair enough, thats what i needed to know
[11:18] <remu> thanks
[11:18] <elriah> Hi all.  With the ubuntu 6.06 server, is the kernel (labeled ending in -server) SMP capable or do I need to install an smp kernel?
[11:18] <Justy-> Can I learn name of the xchat package, not the gnome-xchat
[11:18] <drezha> I've mounted a network share on my Ubuntu rig but restarted the other PC...now Ubuntu wont let me do anything to the mounted file system. How can I stop this? A restart works but I don't want to restart
[11:19] <Justy-> please
[11:19] <jordan> elriah, You need to install an SMP kernel.
[11:19] <jrib> !info xchat2
[11:19] <ubotu> Package xchat2 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:19] <LjL> !xchat
[11:19] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[11:19] <elriah> Thanks.
[11:19] <nicholaspaul> jrib: ok, i installed clean. how do i use it?theres no man and no --help
[11:19] <jrib> nicholaspaul: no, not install clean, just 'sudo apt-get clean'  That deletes the archives
[11:19] <jordan> elriah, Actually I am not 100% sure.
[11:19] <LjL> Justy: weird that the package name for xchat is xchat, isn't it ;)
[11:20] <nicholaspaul> jrib: ohise.. yea thats what i did, i thot it was installing a prog:)
[11:20] <Justy> LjL: It can't find xchat, is there a problem with my repositories?
[11:20] <LjL> Justy: suppose so. do you have universe enabled?
[11:20] <X-Hacker> yo
[11:20] <Pntkl> hey
[11:20] <gansinho> jordan:  I still have the error: dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0 =(
[11:21] <yancm> 2nd call: I just installed 6.06-1 alternate using the light installfor low memory systems. I tried fluxbox and icewm, but I can only launch firefox. I cannot launch a shell, telnet or synaptic, or anything other than firefox - even though they show up on hte menu. Any advice?
[11:21] <Justy> LjL: @sudo gedit /etc/sources.list, is the only thing i should do uncommenting the universe?
[11:21] <Justy> LjL: sorry /etc/apt
[11:21] <LjL> Justy: yes (perhaps also add "multiverse" after "universe" if you want -- multiverse contains "non-free" stuff), and then run "sudo apt-get update"
[11:22] <gansinho> jordan: but now the one that I've compiled is working... but I don't have the icon in the tray... how to configure it ?
[11:22] <jhasse> Why isn`t jvm 1.5 in the repros of ubuntu??
[11:22] <Justy> LjL: thanks
[11:22] <X-Hacker> I'll think about it
[11:22] <LjL> !repos > justy
[11:22] <Pntkl> ?
[11:23] <jordan> gansinho, Use ale-carte menue editor.
[11:23] <jrib> jhasse: it's in multiverse
[11:23] <jrib> ubotu: tell jhasse about java
[11:23] <adrian_> !java
[11:23] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:24] <yancm> helpanewb? 8-)
[11:24] <stefg> !info sun-java5-jdk
[11:24] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[11:24] <RazvanS> playing: "Miruna Oprea - Nu mi-e frica de Bau-Bau" [320kbps] [44kHz] [Stereo] 
[11:24] <gansinho> jordan: nope, the icon in the tray, not the launcher... I should have a icon near the beryl's one? to configure kiba-dock?
[11:25] <LjL> RazvanS: please don't do that
[11:25] <JohnWang> ive got a small problem, I started gparted to resize my windows partition like I normally do, I unmouted it but it does not give me the option to resize
[11:25] <RazvanS> sorry
[11:25] <stefg> JohnWang: run a chkdsk in windows on it
[11:26] <adrian_> jrib, I am new but ubotu is a bot, an automated response system. If there is something in particular you want a quick info on put a ! in front and it may well reply with an appropriate answer
[11:26] <[GuS] > Rez are you there? i want to setup a cloak for me
[11:26] <peter77> how come sceen brightness isn't chnaging when running off battery?
[11:26] <klonoa> i want to get partition my harddrive so there is ubuntu partition / windows xp partition and a 3rd partition for files that i can access files from boths OS's is this possible?
[11:26] <Fibbs> hi folks
[11:26] <jrib> ubotu: tell adrian_ about yourself
[11:26] <jordan> gansinho, I don't kow, I don't have an icon in the tray, I just right click on the dock and go to kiba-utils -> gset-kiba.
[11:26] <jrib> adrian_: that syntax lets you send info to users, see? :)
[11:26] <peter77> I get the message saying Battery saving now active
[11:26] <Fibbs> i would like to know if there is a howto to get suspend2 running in ubuntu
[11:26] <gansinho> jordan: thanks... I'm getting used to it now...
[11:27] <eztk> any VMWare server experts in here? having some trouble installing it on Ubuntu / dapper
[11:27] <gansinho> jordan:  thanks a lot for the help!
[11:27] <yancm> helpanewb please? %-)
[11:27] <jordan> gansinho, No problem :)
[11:27] <eztk> keep getting "A previous installation of VMware software has been detected."
[11:27] <eztk> and i already removed vmware-player
[11:27] <eztk> :s
[11:27] <adrian_> Nice one jrib :D
[11:27] <whyso> hi, ive burned the CD, but when i get to the installation menu and do anything (hit instal/start, or check CD for errors) it says loading forever. what could be my problem
[11:28] <Nihil85> hi, i have a problem: ubuntu dapper doesn't works, it crashes at startup when it's mounting local filesystem. I tried to run the live cd but also the live cd crashes at the same point. How can i solve this?
[11:28] <whyso> ive used multiple cd burners
[11:28] <jhasse> ok i have installed sun-java5-jdk but when i type java -version it says 1.4
[11:28] <JohnWang> stefg, I have only ever resised fat32 windows partitions, this one is ntfs, would that make a difference?
[11:28] <jhasse> any ideas?
[11:29] <stefg> JohnWang: if gparted detects a possibly unclean filesystem it won't touch it
[11:29] <whyso> try a 1.5 feature, see if it works
[11:29] <yancm> I just installed 6.06-1 alternate using the light installfor low memory systems. I tried fluxbox and icewm, but I can only launch firefox. I cannot launch a shell,
[11:29] <yancm>  telnet or synaptic, or anything other than firefox - even though they show up on hte menu. Any advice?
[11:29] <JohnWang> ok
[11:29] <JohnWang> thank you
[11:29] <whyso> hi, ive burned the CD, but when i get to the installation menu and do anything (hit instal/start, or check CD for errors) it says loading forever. what could be my problem
[11:30] <jrib> ubotu: tell jhasse about multijava
[11:30] <panagos> what is the default password for the ubuntu 5.04 live CD (both root and ubuntu)?
[11:30] <stefg> whyso: Desktop-CD? How much Ram?
[11:30] <atlef> whyso : tried redownloading
[11:30] <Crippy-Boy> panagos, There isnt one, you must set one
[11:30] <whyso> 4 gigs
[11:31] <whyso> yeah desktop
[11:31] <jrib> panagos: root is locked, the user's password is blank I think, user is ubuntu
[11:31] <stefg> ok, that's definitely enough
[11:31] <whyso> not tried redling tho
[11:31] <jrib> ubotu: tell panagos about sudo
[11:31] <atlef> whyso : other hardware
[11:31] <peter77> Hi, I'm running ubuntu edgy and I have power saving enabled, when I run my laptop off the battery though it doesn't dim the display
[11:31] <panagos> root is locked o_O ?
[11:32] <whyso> intel EE 3.2 MHZ, 2 raided sata drives 500 each
[11:32] <LjL> ubotu tell panagos about root
[11:32] <Crippy-Boy> panagos, use sudo, or enable the root account(sudo passwd root)
[11:32] <jrib> panagos: read the private message from ubotu
[11:32] <whyso> radeon (cant remember # video card)
[11:32] <atlef> whyso : had any other distro booted on the system?
[11:32] <whyso> no, ubuntu first to try
[11:32] <LjL> panagos you're aware that 5.04 is quite outdated i suppose?
[11:32] <jhasse> jrib, thx
[11:33] <panagos> how do i mount my hard disk on ubuntu?
[11:33] <panagos> yeah, i am aware
[11:33] <stefg> !mount
[11:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:33] <adrian_> !<sudo> > <adrian_>
[11:33] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 376 kB
[11:33] <atlef> try f6 on the ubuntu bootscreen an add noapic to the end of that line
[11:33] <atlef> *and
[11:34] <jordan> jhasse, What is the output of `update-java-alternatives -l`?
[11:34] <atlef> !noapic
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noapic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <whyso> you think my hardware not work with ubuntu or something?
[11:35] <atlef> whyso : i had some of the same problems, and it worked with noapic
[11:36] <jordan> jhasse, Never mind, jrib already covered it.
[11:36] <whyso> ah ok thanks
[11:36] <whyso> whats noapic
[11:36] <whyso> another distro?
[11:36] <atlef> no
[11:36] <LjL> ...
[11:37] <whyso> what is it ?
[11:37] <LjL> whyso: [23:33]  <atlef> try f6 on the ubuntu bootscreen an add noapic to the end of that line
[11:38] <Nihil85> hi, i have a problem: ubuntu dapper doesn't works, it crashes at startup when it's mounting local filesystem. I tried to run the live cd but also the live cd crashes at the same point. How can i solve this?
[11:38] <multi> hi
[11:38] <jordan> whyso, It is an option passed to the kernel at boot.
[11:38] <multi> hi people
[11:38] <whyso> ah ok thanks
[11:38] <atlef> whyso : at the first screen when booting ubuntu, where you choose to install, check cd etc. hit f6 and add noapic and hit enter
[11:38] <LjL> ... add a space, add "noapic" and hit enter
[11:39] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[11:39] <bran> how can i make "apt-get update" look for "binary-ppc" instead of "binary-powerpc" ??
[11:40] <LjL> !it > tuxtux
[11:40] <THX-1138>  With Twinview there are two windows and the cursor can pass between them. What can be changed to enable an application to pass across two screens?
[11:40] <multi> 
[11:41] <multi> ))
[11:41] <multi>  
[11:41] <multi> ???
[11:41] <LjL> !ru
[11:41] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:41] <tuxtux> LjL: thanke
[11:41] <Rapidwolve> Help! How do I boot Ubuntu from my Hard Disk
[11:41] <DigitalNinja> How do I setup framebuffer?
[11:41] <whyso> thanks
[11:41] <darkanyel> how can i use ascii in ubuntu?
[11:42] <LjL> darkanyel: you mean as opposed to UTF-8?
[11:42] <multi> komu pomoch?
[11:43] <LjL> multi: we only speak english here
[11:43] <darkanyel> LjL, not sure, i just wanna use some letters, like  and other simblos
[11:43] <darkanyel> simbols
[11:43] <LjL> darkanyel: that has nothing to do with ASCII... 
[11:43] <Justy-> question: Is there  a package for windows fonts?
[11:43] <Hitch> darkanyel, try to find the symbols in the charachter map
[11:43] <darkanyel> wll, in windows is "ALT + 164"
[11:43] <darkanyel> in ubuntu, i dont know...
[11:44] <stefg> !msttcorefonts
[11:44] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[11:44] <clyrrad> how can i rename mounted media is this possible?
[11:44] <LjL> darkanyel: use a character map program. in KDE it's kcharselect. yeah, there is also a way to type numbers directly, but i don't remember it, and anyway i'm afraid those would have to be Unicode numbers and not ascii
[11:45] <Hitch> LjL, there is a character map in the accessories in gnome2
[11:45] <Justy-> stefg, does msttcorefonts include the font named "Verdana" ?
[11:45] <LjL> thanks, darkanyel, look at what Hitch said
[11:46] <stefg> Justy-: I think so
[11:46] <LjL> darkanyel, i know Gnome also has an applet that can be added to the panel (right click on the panel, add applet) that allows you to easily select various accented characters
[11:47] <darkanyel> whats the meanin of "U+0241" ???
[11:47] <Seeking1> hi
[11:47] <Seeking1> whats the latest offical version of root kit hunter?  one 1 webpage it says 1.2.8 and another 1.2.9. Any ideas?
[11:48] <ladydoor> does anybody know what "HDs which have an md superblock from an earlier install in a different RAID array" *means* and how i can tell if i have it/them?
[11:49] <Justy-> stefg, it outputted me : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26804/
[11:49] <crazdiam> trying to playback from my input device live, i must be missing something because my line in bar in th emixer is all the way up and i still cant get anything, anyone have any ideas?
[11:49] <stefg> Justy-: you need universe enabled
[11:49] <stefg> !repos
[11:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:50] <Justy-> stefg, i think it is enabled, i just did enabled it and installed xchat
[11:50] <stefg> Justy-: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[11:51] <DigitalNinja> Is there a source package for samba? I can't find one
[11:51] <stefg> Justy-: it's _multiverse_ which is different from universe
[11:51] <Justy-> stefg, i have multiverse enabled too...
[11:52] <Seeking1> whats the latest offical version of root kit hunter?  one 1 webpage it says 1.2.8 and another 1.2.9. Any ideas?
[11:52] <stefg> then it should work
[11:52] <Justy-> stefg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26807/
[11:52] <m0> !xorg-air
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg-air - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <m0> What is Xorg Air?
[11:53] <m0> Xorg-air is using 60% of my CPU
[11:53] <stefg> Justy-: you don't have multiverse enabled, see !easysource
[11:53] <anon32> help!
[11:53] <Tamed_G> back back...back from my magical journey!!
[11:53] <Justy-> hmm
[11:53] <Justy-> !easysource > Justy
[11:53] <Justy-> !easysource > Justy-
[11:53] <anon32> how can I replace the crappy icons and logos in firefox with the normal ones?
[11:54] <Tamed_G> hrm well it seems that ATi x64 drivers are as sucky in Linux as they are in Windows
[11:54] <Justy-> stefg, i dont have multiverse in the list or i have it commented ?
[11:54] <anon32> how can I replace the crappy icons and logos in firefox with the normal ones?
[11:54] <ladydoor> !repeat
[11:54] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:55] <Tamed_G> anyone have any tips on playing video files stored on a Windows/M$oft netwrok?
[11:55] <bran> how can i make "apt-get update" look for "binary-ppc" instead of   "binary-powerpc" ??
[11:55] <anon32> !firefox
[11:55] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:56] <anon32> !firefoxicons
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefoxicons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <stefg> Justy-: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26808/
[11:56] <m0> Xorg-air is using 60% of my CPU, can someone  please tell me why
[11:57] <difeta> how can I setup a software raid setup? I want my two sata disks to mirror each other
[11:57] <sureshot> jack_sparrow are you on my friend
[11:57] <stefg> !raid
[11:57] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:57] <ladydoor> does anybody know what "HDs which have an md superblock from an earlier install in a different RAID array" means and how to tell if i have one?
[11:57] <Megaqwerty> Do you ever need to run a defragmenter on linux?
[11:57] <Renan_s2> !samba
[11:57] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:57] <Renan_s2> Megaqwerty, not at all
[11:57] <Tamed_G> !network drives
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network drives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <m0>  !xorg
[11:58] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:58] <Megaqwerty> Renan_s2: sweet, does ubotu have some sort of explanation as to why?
[11:58] <Renan_s2> Megaqwerty, no
[11:58] <Renan_s2> but unless you work with a lot of large files, don't worry
[11:58] <m0> !xorg-air
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg-air - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <stefg> ladydoor: that means that the drives carry a raid signature already. you'll notice if you run mdadm
[11:58] <Megaqwerty> ok, thanks
[11:58] <ladydoor> stefg: so if i run mdadm, it'll tell me (safely)?
[11:58] <Crippy-Boy> Megaqwerty, No, The joys of having a half decent file system :-)
[11:59] <Justy-> stefg,  thanks =)
[11:59] <XiXaQ> how can I allow a user to run wine mirc.exe but disallow wine anythingElse.exe?
[11:59] <stefg> ladydoor: yup, because anyway you'll have to make an fs on a newly created raid
[11:59] <sureshot> ware can i get a list of ubunto shell command are they on my system or is there a wiki page i would really like to not to have to ask so many question. i need to learn
[11:59] <Crippy-Boy> XiXaQ, Use a different irc client?
[12:00] <johnny__> hiya all
[12:00] <ladydoor> stefg: errr...i'm just trying to dist-upgrade
[12:00] <sureshot> hey Crippy-Boy how are you
[12:00] <XiXaQ> Crippy-Boy, that's not the point. That was only an example. I want the user to be able to run one windows program under wine, but not just any program.
[12:00] <johnsan> #kernelnewbies-es
[12:00] <stefg> ladydoor: so how does this affect your raid arrays ???
[12:01] <ladydoor> i got a message from dpkg saying it (or technically root did)
[12:01] <johnny__> i would like to add a program to my startup sessions but it ask for me to browse to the program... where are the programs located on ubuntu?