[12:26] <pygi> keltorsori: do the forwarding bits?
[12:27] <keltorsori> gonna find out in a minute. still trying to find more info
[12:29] <pygi> I just think you could do iptables forwarding bits, and it should work
[12:30] <keltorsori> seems like a bit more work than i remember...i'll figure it out hopefully
[12:57] <keltorsori> ok, i've got the stupids today. anyone able to help me get eth0 up?
[12:57] <keltorsori> i've got two nics, just did a fresh install
[12:57] <keltorsori> configured eth1 only during the install
[12:57] <keltorsori> need to get eth0 up now
[12:58] <keltorsori> clients are booting off eth1 just fine
[03:05] <sbalneav> Evening all
[03:50] <jono> hey sbalneav 
[03:50] <sbalneav> Hello jono
[04:56] <nixternal> http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/handbook/C/
[04:56] <nixternal> ^^ new handbook layout if you are interested...i am closer to getting what we want i think
[04:56] <nixternal> a little tweaking and it will be gold
[04:58] <nixternal> actually, i may have just fixed the chunk
[04:59] <nixternal> wo0t
[04:59] <nixternal> give me one secone to upload the new
[05:00] <nixternal> now look at it
[05:00] <nixternal> do you like the last one, or this one better?
[05:05] <sbalneav> nixternal: That a svn repo?
[05:05] <nixternal> once we say yay to a layout, im going to copy over all of the current content intot he correct files, upload them to the doc server and the binary server..this way here, they can get worked on there, and i can just copy over to the doc
[05:06] <nixternal> not yet sbalneav, it is local
[05:06] <sbalneav> So only HedgeMage can see?  Or can I see somehow?
[05:06] <nixternal> you can see it
[05:07] <nixternal> sbalneav: you have been commiting all of the ltsp i assume to the binaryredneck svn server right?
[05:07] <sbalneav> Yes.
[05:08] <HedgeMage> nixternal: hang on let me look
[05:08] <nixternal> ok...that is what i will do then...i will get all of your content into the layout, and get them on both servers, that way there you can just work from them, and i can copy over tot he doc server when needed for the time being as well
[05:08] <HedgeMage> nixternal: I like how it looks right now
[05:08] <nixternal> the layout i have has a file for each chapter or <sect1> docbook way
[05:09] <sbalneav> So I should keep updating to binary redneck?
[05:09] <nixternal> ok HedgeMage, i figured that was what you wanted
[05:09] <sbalneav> Or send patches?
[05:09] <nixternal> sure sbalneav, go ahead for the time being..it is nothing for me to copy over right now
[05:09] <sbalneav> k
[05:09] <HedgeMage> nixternal: what's easier for you, the two repo method or the patch method?
[05:09] <nixternal> that way it doesn't slow you down
[05:09] <nixternal> two repo for right now, until they are both synched, then we will switch over 100% to the doc svn
[05:10] <nixternal> this way i will be able to work the doc svn into shape, and not interfere with the work that sbalneav has done
[05:10] <nixternal> it should only be a day or 2 i am hoping to have them synched
[05:10] <HedgeMage> okay, cool
[05:11] <sbalneav> I've been going through the touch slog of synching up the lts.conf options that Edubuntu implements into the docs.
[05:11] <sbalneav> s/touch/tough/
[05:12] <HedgeMage> you both rock :)
[05:20] <nixternal> alrighty..time for some more messin' around..the race is over ;)
[05:26] <HedgeMage> :)
[05:26] <HedgeMage> nixternal: who won? my dad was supposed to call me.
[05:26] <nixternal> kasey
[05:26] <nixternal> every girls favorite racer
[05:28] <HedgeMage> lol
[05:46] <nixternal> what are we going to do with the Student Control Panel?  Stick it in Part 4?
[06:21] <HedgeMage> nixternal: Well, I don't know anything about it? isn't it an ltsp only thing?
[06:22] <nixternal> actually, i believe it is...so i think it will be fine in part 4 as well
[06:22] <nixternal> or pt2 post install section
[06:23] <HedgeMage> if its ltsp only it should go in ltsp post-install
[06:23] <nixternal> will do
[06:58] <nixternal> ooh docbook is making me mad right now...it validates perfectly, and as soon as i copy over and tweak the scp portion...it just dies...and the funny thing is, the local xml file validates for proper xml structure...but the entire build divebombs
[06:59] <nixternal> i was on a roll to have everything complete by tomorrow, but this one little bug is gonna cause me to drink ;)
[07:41] <nixternal> don't you hate when the problem at hand is right in front of your face ;)
[03:16] <pygi> bddebian: hey ho
[03:17] <bddebian> Hi pygi
[04:41] <fbtab> greets all
[04:41] <fbtab> what method is recommended for automated installations? fai?
[04:41] <fbtab> i tryed seeding, certain things didnt work, tryed ks, other things didnt work..
[04:47] <pygi> ogra: you have a sec?
[04:59] <fbtab> i must say, i totally like the themeing behind edubuntu, very nice
[06:06] <juliux> ogra, ping
[06:20] <juliux> can i build an extra kernel for the ltsp chroot?
[07:20] <cbx33> ping Amaranth 
[07:25] <Amaranth> cbx33: pong
[07:26] <cbx33> hey dude you in #beryl?
[07:26] <cbx33> hoping you can help me out
[07:26] <cbx33> :p
[07:26] <cbx33> my generic nvidia module is broken
[07:27] <cbx33> as of about 2 days ago....I was using your repos
[07:29] <cbx33> Amaranth, any ideas?
[07:29] <cbx33> I was following this
[07:29] <cbx33> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[07:29] <highvoltage> hey cbx33 
[07:29] <cbx33> does where it says about getting it from the nvidia site
[07:29] <cbx33> and recompiling on kernel updates
[07:30] <Amaranth> cbx33: using deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm
[07:30] <cbx33> how do you do that....just rerun the script?
[07:30] <Amaranth> right?
[07:30] <cbx33> hi highvoltage 
[07:30] <cbx33> deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm
[07:30] <cbx33> yup
[07:30] <Amaranth> yeah
[07:30] <cbx33> the module doesn't load on the generic kernel
[07:30] <Amaranth> make sure l-r-m-2.6.17-10-generic and nvidia-glx are up-to-date and installed from that repo
[07:30] <cbx33> 2 secs
[07:31] <cbx33> ii  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386     2.6.17.5-11~amaranth                  Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules on 386
[07:31] <cbx33> ii  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic 2.6.17.5-11~amaranth                  Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules on x86_64 gene
[07:31] <cbx33> ii  linux-restricted-modules-common            2.6.17.5-11~amaranth                  Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules helper script
[07:31] <cbx33> ii  nvidia-glx                                 1.0.9625+2.6.17.5-11~amaranth         NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[07:31] <Amaranth> weird
[07:31] <Amaranth> any errors when you try to load the module with generic?
[07:31] <cbx33> yes
[07:32] <cbx33> error using install command for module nvidia
[07:32] <Amaranth> *boggle*
[07:32] <cbx33> was working before the kernel image update a few days ago
[07:32] <Amaranth> weird
[07:32] <Amaranth> oh, .33 breaks things for some people
[07:33] <Amaranth> i haven't rebooted yet, still using .31
[07:33] <cbx33> ahhh....
[07:33] <cbx33> :(
[07:33] <cbx33> what do you suggest?
[07:33] <Amaranth> *shrug*
[07:33] <cbx33> is compiling the driver my self easy?
[07:33] <Amaranth> I just make packages, I have no idea how any of it works
[07:33] <Amaranth> compiling the driver probably won't make a difference
[07:33] <cbx33> sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9625-pkg1.run
[07:33] <cbx33> ah
[07:33] <cbx33> ok
[07:34] <cbx33> so I guess I wait then?
[07:34] <Amaranth> but all you need is your kernel headers, gcc, and the .run file
[07:34] <cbx33> ok
[07:34] <cbx33> then do I rerun that script everytime they update the kernel?
[07:34] <Amaranth> then just run that command you pasted and hit enter a couple times
[07:34] <Amaranth> every time they bump the ABI
[07:34] <Amaranth> which probably won't happen anymore for edgy unless a security fix requires it
[07:34] <cbx33> hmmm
[07:35] <cbx33> if I wanted to....how would I go back to the edgy repos?
[07:35] <cbx33> for the nvidia and restricted modules stuff?
[07:35] <Amaranth> *shrug*
[07:35] <Amaranth> i haven't installed them like that since sarge
[07:36] <Amaranth> well, since sarge was testing
[07:36] <cbx33> well i kinda meant....is it possible to stop using your repo?
[07:36] <cbx33> could I just uninstall the pacakges...disable your repo....apt-get update.....and then reinstall
[07:36] <Amaranth> oh, yeah
[07:36] <cbx33> and do we know if .33 is going to get fixed?
[07:37] <Amaranth> *shrug*
[07:37] <cbx33> ok
[07:37] <cbx33> thanks Amaranth 
[07:37] <cbx33> sorry to have troubled you
[07:37] <Amaranth> someone has to figure out what's broken and report it first
[07:38] <cbx33> hence why I'm thinking of taking a backstep
[07:38] <cbx33> my dual core is useless at the mo
[07:38] <cbx33> cos I'm only using 386 :S
[07:51] <juliux> hi all
[07:52] <juliux> did somebody knows if it is possible to build an extra kernel for the ltsp chroot
[08:07] <highvoltage> hey juliux 
[08:07] <juliux> hi highvoltage 
[08:08] <highvoltage> juliux: you can build it and place it in /var/lib/tftpboot
[08:08] <highvoltage> you can then just specifiy the new kernel in teh dhcpd.conf file
[08:08] <juliux> highvoltage, ah cool, i need a kernel with isa support
[08:08] <highvoltage> wow, the current ubuntu kernels doesn't have it?
[08:09] <highvoltage> heh, I suppose very very few people use any isa devices these days.
[08:24] <crimsun> CONFIG_ISA=y
[08:24] <crimsun> CONFIG_EISA=y
[08:25] <highvoltage> juliux: ^^^
[08:25] <juliux> sorry
[08:26] <juliux> we have here a surfstation 
[08:26] <highvoltage> geez, crimsun is really everywhere :)
[08:26] <juliux> and the kernel boots up but then comes an error etho not found
[08:26] <highvoltage> juliux: what card is it? it's probably that the kernel module for that card is not available?
[08:27] <juliux> we testit with one intel an a 3com card booth isa
[08:36] <juliux> highvoltage, i will post the error message later, we have an ubuntu-de meeting at the moment
[10:14] <pygi> HedgeMage: !!!
[10:14] <HedgeMage> hi pygi 
[10:15] <nixternal> hi! ;)
[10:15] <pygi> how is you?!
[10:15] <HedgeMage> hi nixternal 
[10:16] <HedgeMage> I'm good, just trying to get family stuff covered so I can work on handbook and on next week's workshop I'm giving
[10:16] <nixternal> my lord all of my football picks are hurting
[10:16] <pygi> nixternal: :P
[10:17] <pygi> I've been trying to sleep lately, no go :P
[10:17] <nixternal> hehe
[10:17] <nixternal> i keep putting my schoolwork off, as getting the handbook functioning has been rather addictive
[10:17] <pygi> :P
[10:18] <pygi> I have two exams this week, and I already said I'll fail them =P
[10:18] <pygi> it won't be good for my uni career :P
[10:19] <pygi> nice HedgeMage :)
[10:20] <HedgeMage> heh
[10:20] <nixternal> ya, i have about 6 presentations to give at the Ubuntu Chicago Conference here in 2 weeks as well
[10:20] <nixternal> this month has been a busy one...plus I have all of the documentation for Ichthux as well
[10:20] <pygi> same here, October, 28
[10:20] <nixternal> ya, oct 28 for chicago meeting as well
[10:20] <pygi> :P
[10:20] <nixternal> and then the 29th i have a LUG meeting i have yet organized
[10:21] <nixternal> i put my name on the officer list, and it seems they voted and elected me the president
[10:21] <HedgeMage> hehe :)
[10:21] <nixternal> now, i can't just say no, i don't want to do that
[10:21] <pygi> :P
[10:21] <pygi> well, hello mr. president :)
[10:21] <nixternal> i really don't, but i figured i will give them 6 months to a year and hand it over
[10:21] <nixternal> ya, i asked if there was a pay raise involved ;)
[10:22] <nixternal> HedgeMage: you see my email i sent?
[10:22] <pygi> nixternal: I have some bad things involved with phrase "mr. president" :P
[10:23] <nixternal> i like my mr. president, it just seems the rest of the world doesn't ;)
[10:23] <nixternal> he is a persistant little bugger
[10:23] <HedgeMage> nixternal: nope, haven't checked yet
[10:23] <HedgeMage> brb tt calls
[10:23] <nixternal> hehe
[10:23] <pygi> well, if the folks who present you computer science in uni every day call you mr. president, you'd stop loving it :P
[10:23] <nixternal> i think HedgeMage should change her nick to TT_Rules_Me
[10:24] <nixternal> hehe, i hide from them when i am at school
[10:24] <nixternal> i am labeled "The Ubuntu Guy"
[10:24] <pygi> oh, this folks haven't got around to part that I use ubuntu or anything related yet :)
[10:24] <nixternal> they love and hate me at the same time. Their install fests were roughly 10 people...then i joined, brought in Ubuntu, and we have had 3 back to back with more than 100 people, which a majority want Ubuntu installed
[10:25] <pygi> I have to use Windows in uni :-/
[10:25] <nixternal> but i have taken over the slackware mentality they (5 of them when I joined) had, and showed them it isn't about Slackware, it isn't about Ubuntu, it is about Linux, and supporting and helping others with their Linux quest
[10:26] <nixternal> pygi: i would have to as well, but i use LiveCDs now ;)
[10:26] <pygi> nixternal: well, considering I was almost kicked out when I mentioned linux, I don't wanna play with using liveCD's :P
[10:26] <nixternal> hehe
[10:35] <nixternal> hmm...switching over from the "original" handbook layout to the "new" layout is tricky for 2 files, sect-ltsp-ltsconf.xml and sect-ltsp-theory.xml...i don't know where to merge them in with
[10:35] <nixternal> i think that sect-ltsp-ltsconf.xml should be part of the p2-client.xml file as it seems the lts.conf is for the workstations
[10:36] <nixternal> the ltsp-theory could be merged in with p2-intro.xml or create a p2-theory.xml and add one more section to the chapter layout
[11:04] <pygi> nixternal: hm, right
[11:29] <nixternal> binaryredneck svn updated with all of the new files, redid the directory structure, and added a README to the root directory....so 'svn up' if you are using HedgeMage's svn ;)
[11:29] <pygi> I'm afraid of doing any activities right now
[11:30] <pygi> my hardware seems to be randomly failing :-/
[11:31] <cbx33> excuse my stupidity here people
[11:31] <cbx33> how can I find out pacakges that were installed from a certain repo?
[11:31] <cbx33> nixternal, cool
[11:34] <nixternal> ok..now i think i can start adding some content ;)
[11:47] <cbx33> nixternal, where are the images stored now
[11:47] <cbx33> oh and I see a typo
[11:47] <nixternal> Installiol?
[11:48] <nixternal> they are stored in the images/ directory in root ;)
[11:48] <cbx33> hmmm
[11:48] <cbx33> yes
[11:49] <cbx33> Installionl
[11:49] <nixternal> i fixed that..the one in the handbook.xml file
[11:49] <nixternal> i noticed it looking at the html that was built