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| ryanakca | Riddell: hey, I've got 3 licence plates for you, pick the best one :) | 02:32 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/kubuntu/ (8 - 12).png tell me if you want a modification on the sticker :) | 02:34 |
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| fdoving | hmm.. | 01:39 |
| fdoving | why is arts in the archives 1.5.4 and on kubuntu.org it's 1.5.5 ? | 01:39 |
| fdoving | for edgy,thatis. | 01:39 |
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| tvo | hmm apt-get and aptitude perform quite differently when attempting to dist-upgrade, apt-get seems to be ok, aptitude complains about dependencies (even with --without-recommends) | 01:53 |
| tvo | (dapper->edgy that is) | 01:53 |
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| Hobbsee | hey all | 02:23 |
| mhb | hey | 02:24 |
| fdoving | hey. | 02:35 |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: have you seen that the arts version on archive.ubuntu.com is 1.5.4, and kubuntu.org got 1.5.5? is that intentional? | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | !info arts edgy | 02:36 |
| ubotu | arts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | not sure on that one | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell? | 02:36 |
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| two-face | Hi | 02:45 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: if you throw a disk in your cdrom/dvdrom in kubuntu can you view the files? i have someone asking me in #ubuntu+1 and im trying to fix eclipse atm | 02:46 |
| two-face | I'd like to point out that kubuntu beta still does not boot on my system | 02:46 |
| two-face | as in knot3 | 02:47 |
| two-face | Bug #61987 | 02:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 61987 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Kernel boot failure with Kubuntu knot3 on amd64+nforce4+sata2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61987 | 02:47 |
| gnomefreak | two-face: is it dumping you into busy box? | 02:47 |
| two-face | gnomefreak: no it isn't | 02:47 |
| gnomefreak | oh ok not the issue everyone else has than | 02:48 |
| two-face | right after unpacking the initrd it enters an endless loop | 02:48 |
| fdoving | woohooo.. i have sysinfo:/ running on kubuntu :) | 02:50 |
| === mhb thinks sysinfo:/ would be better as a menu item in systemsettings | ||
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: i'm currently on a live cd. sometimes, i think | 02:53 |
| gnomefreak | ok ty | 02:56 |
| mhb | KDE 3.5.5 will be the default in Edgy, right? | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: yep | 03:03 |
| mhb | hmm | 03:04 |
| mhb | as usual nobody bothers to change the facts in Rosetta | 03:04 |
| mhb | Riddell: release notes in rosetta talk about KDE 3.5.4, somebody should fix that | 03:05 |
| mhb | Riddell: and nobody bothered with adding the Kubuntu introduction lines into hwdb-client Rosetta translation, as I mentioned to you a while ago | 03:06 |
| mhb | it's a bit frustrating when you translate the release notes but in the end they are either incorrect or your translation is not used | 03:07 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if anyone actually uses rosetta anyway | ||
| Hobbsee | as far as upstream seems to be concerned, it's a waste of time for kde, as the translations are in svn | 03:11 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: yes, we actually do | 03:12 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: you cannot translate ubuntu-docs in svn .o) | 03:13 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: or release notes | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: i was meaning the kde specific stuff. | 03:14 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: yes, it is mostly unused there | 03:15 |
| === Hobbsee nods | ||
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| Hobbsee | hey bddebian | 03:16 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 03:17 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: Rosetta has its flaws | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: so i hear | 03:24 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: it's low on features (still we cannot even search through strings or through package names) | 03:25 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: you have to flip throught 10 pages of package lists to find a package (or do a workaround and search for its source) | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | ouch | 03:26 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: and it seems to me that it's overlooked a bit by the LP maintainers | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: i cant speak for them - i've got nothing to do with it | 03:28 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: well I talked with them once and little changed | 03:29 |
| === mhb stops complaining now :o) | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: i cant do anything about it, as it's LP | 03:31 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I know it well, that's why I stopped .o) | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | ..... | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | why are we installing libgtk2.0in a default kubuntu install? | 03:32 |
| === Hobbsee notes that the lag is bad, as she's also downoading large amounts of data | ||
| gnomefreak | kubuntu getting rid of qt ;) | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | well, i wouldnt mind grabbing their update manager, as that looks neat | 03:34 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I think it's edgy+1 for it | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | nice :) | 03:35 |
| === Hobbsee now has space for edgy+1 | ||
| mhb | Jonathan mentioned that, IIRC | 03:35 |
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| Hobbsee | hmmm. libxine1 has a lot of the same files as libxine-main1 | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | and amarok depends on one, kaffeine-xine depends on the other. impressive. | 04:10 |
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| ryanakca | eh, kubuntu getting rid of qt? | 04:44 |
| === ryanakca wonders how many times gnomefreak was dropped as a child... :) | ||
| ryanakca | Qt vs GTK... Qt wins anyday :) | 04:44 |
| gnomefreak | lol ;) | 04:45 |
| gnomefreak | was in the middle of eclipse issues and taht sounded good at the time :( | 04:45 |
| ryanakca | lol | 04:46 |
| ryanakca | eclipse.. isn't that some HTML / PHP IDE? | 04:46 |
| ryanakca | rings a bell... | 04:46 |
| gnomefreak | java + others | 04:47 |
| gnomefreak | it doesnt build :) | 04:47 |
| ryanakca | odd | 04:47 |
| nuku | jubuntu the java only ubuntu based distro? :) | 04:47 |
| ryanakca | hmm... I think I had used it on FC a year ago.. | 04:47 |
| gnomefreak | i filed bug fixed one depends and now i have to build a lib to get it to build and check it again but not today | 04:48 |
| ryanakca | nuku: wouldn't that be uber uber slow? | 04:48 |
| ryanakca | either that or it's just my computer that java runs slowly one | 04:48 |
| gnomefreak | -slow + garbage ;) | 04:49 |
| ryanakca | lol | 04:49 |
| ryanakca | gnomefreak: I guess that class never happened last night ? | 04:49 |
| nuku | ryanakca: well java is not that slow with jit .. only the awt and swing stuff really really sucks... | 04:49 |
| gnomefreak | ok i go away and try to get my mind on something else. i dont know about lastnights class | 04:49 |
| gnomefreak | later all | 04:49 |
| ryanakca | see yah | 04:49 |
| ryanakca | edgy uses amarok 1.4-beta3, right? | 05:03 |
| nuku | ryanakca: no 1.4.3 | 05:05 |
| ryanakca | nuku: I don't see 1.4.3 on bugs.kde.org... | 05:08 |
| ryanakca | it only goes up to 1.4.1 | 05:08 |
| ryanakca | nevermind :) | 05:08 |
| nuku | there are no more bugs in 1.4.3 *scnr* :) | 05:13 |
| ryanakca | ?? | 05:16 |
| === ryanakca found one :P | ||
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| Tm_T | Hmm... | 05:34 |
| Tm_T | Anyone here who's using bluetooth? | 05:34 |
| ryanakca | hey kwwii | 05:35 |
| ryanakca | Tm_T: not here... what's happenning? | 05:35 |
| Tm_T | Behaviour differences between Dapper and Edgy, now my devices doesn't discover each other unless I make them. | 05:36 |
| Tm_T | I mean I have to trigger some transport myself. | 05:37 |
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| Tm_T | Hmm, some problems with kcontrol & bt. | 05:47 |
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| nuku | Tm_T: hm bluetooth works here.. whats the problem? | 06:00 |
| Tm_T | nuku: kcontrol -> internet -> bluetooth services -> device discovery | 06:01 |
| Tm_T | nuku: Those scripts doesn't affect at all, also I'm wondering why "also execute job regularly" is greyed out. | 06:02 |
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| nuku | hm i see | 06:03 |
| Tm_T | That means, I can transfer files but discovery jobs are retarted. | 06:04 |
| nuku | yes i just used file transfer until now ... | 06:05 |
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| Tm_T | My desktop supposed to lock/unlock depended to my position. | 06:06 |
| Tm_T | Also could sync stuff but haven't needed it yet. | 06:07 |
| nuku | there also seems to be a missing dependecy to kedit in kdebluetooth.. | 06:07 |
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| Tm_T | Yeah, though that editor part is defined in scripts. | 06:08 |
| Tm_T | So maybe just patching default scripts to point to kate is all we need. | 06:09 |
| ritch_ | Have the fix the cups issue with edgy 6.10 as of yet ? | 06:09 |
| nuku | sure that would be another option | 06:09 |
| Tm_T | nuku: Also, because KBluetoothD doesn't see my devices all the time, I can't use bluetooth to modem connection. ;( | 06:20 |
| Tm_T | Have to plug in USB. | 06:20 |
| nuku | Tm_T: hm this stuff seems to be broken indeed.. | 06:24 |
| Tm_T | nuku: Thanks for confirming, now we need to find out where is the actual problem. | 06:25 |
| nuku | hmm i think i have to reboot.. my dmesg is spammed by "VFS: busy inodes on changed media." never saw this before :/ | 06:28 |
| nuku | i wonder why its not set to filter out repeated messages.. | 06:30 |
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| Tm_T | nuku: All searches I tried, finds nothing, so I presume if I remove predefined device (my phone) I can't send files at all then. :p | 06:37 |
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| nuku | Tm_T: mmh beta2 of kdebluetooth seems to work ... | 06:45 |
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| nuku | hi rockman :) | 06:54 |
| RockMan | hi | 06:54 |
| nuku | so it seems that the device search does not find any devices that are not paired yet.. | 06:54 |
| nuku | and that for example the discovery service does not react.. | 06:55 |
| RockMan | could you try beta2? | 06:56 |
| RockMan | i updated the package, just waiting some testers to publish it | 06:56 |
| nuku | beta2 seems to work.. :) | 06:56 |
| nuku | question is.. is this due to a bug in beta1 or a packaging issue.. | 06:56 |
| RockMan | http://zerogoki.homelinux.org/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta2.tar.bz2 | 06:56 |
| RockMan | mh.. dunnow.. but beta2 is known to be patched to work better with newer version of some packages (bluez, openobex...) | 06:57 |
| RockMan | i would reccomend including beta2 in next kubuntu.. it's not a heavy upgrade, just some patches, and well tested | 06:57 |
| nuku | Tm_T: might want to test the beta2 too if it solves your problems? | 07:01 |
| nuku | i wish my computer would be faster .. building takes still so long :/ | 07:05 |
| Tm_T | ? | 07:07 |
| Tm_T | nuku: Oh, great, I'll test it then. :) | 07:08 |
| Riddell | RockMan: looks like it compiles and installs for me | 07:19 |
| RockMan | Riddell: yep, i fixed the package | 07:20 |
| Riddell | looks like ubuntu has two openobex packages though, libopenobex-1.0-0-dev and libopenobex1-dev | 07:20 |
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| RockMan | there was a warning where there should be an error, so the user was not notified about missing packages | 07:20 |
| RockMan | (i imagine you installed libopenobex for the error, right?) | 07:21 |
| Riddell | I got an error saying openobex >= 1.1 not installed | 07:22 |
| Riddell | and installing libopenobex-1.0-0-dev fixed it | 07:22 |
| RockMan | yep | 07:22 |
| Riddell | that's not the version of libopenobex we currently use so I'll need to talk to dholbach about moving to that version for edgy+1 | 07:27 |
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| Sime | I was just investigating those "monitor powersave timeouts go crazy after logout" bugs, and the problem isn't in /usr/bin/startkde. It must be something that kde_init runs. | 07:31 |
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| Tm_T | nuku: Roger, now it works :) | 07:56 |
| nuku | Tm_T: ah fine.. sorry had to go to lunch :) | 07:57 |
| nuku | Tm_T: so not that fine anyway as this means the kdebluetooth is still broken for edgy :/ | 07:58 |
| Tm_T | Yes | 07:58 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: ping | 08:08 |
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| oslo | i'm on kubuntu edgy with beryl & aiglx its working great !!!!! thks | 08:42 |
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| TIMo0- | whos lilo | 08:52 |
| TIMo0- | Wh is lilo | 08:53 |
| oslo | like grub | 08:55 |
| nuku | lilo as in LInux LOader is a bootloader like grub | 08:55 |
| oslo | ^^ ; exactly | 08:56 |
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| TIMo0- | OHH i see :s | 08:58 |
| Tm_T | TIMo0-: What's the problem? | 08:59 |
| Tm_T | TIMo0-: Referring to topic? lilo was the man behind freenode. | 09:00 |
| TIMo0- | im im realy :S | 09:00 |
| TIMo0- | Freenodeb is a irc server right | 09:01 |
| Tm_T | Irc network and more. | 09:02 |
| Tm_T | IIRC | 09:02 |
| TIMo0- | lilo as in LInux LOader is a bootloader like grub ,is this bull then ? | 09:03 |
| Tm_T | Well, lilo was person and also lilo is bootloader. | 09:03 |
| Tm_T | Same name, two things. | 09:03 |
| nuku | i suppose lilo got his name from the bootloader lilo :) | 09:04 |
| nuku | but thats just a blind guess .. | 09:04 |
| TIMo0- | Good guess thou :D | 09:06 |
| TIMo0- | kubuntu-devel whats it about | 09:17 |
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| mhb | good evening | 09:28 |
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| ryanakca | bug 64573, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135688 | 10:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 64573 in amarok "Amarok crashes on iPod connection" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64573 | 10:17 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 135688 in Mediabrowser "Amarok Crashes when setting /dev/sda2 to Apple iPod" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 10:17 |
| ryanakca | [16:08] <aumuell> ryanakca: perhaps you can push the ubuntu people a bit to include libgpod 0.4 in edgy ... | 10:17 |
| ryanakca | in order to get iPods that upgraded to firmware 1.2.x to work with edgy's amarok, edgy would need to include libgpod 0.4 as a dependency of amarok... problem is, we only have libgpod 0.3.2 in the repos at the moment... | 10:18 |
| crimsun | and being less than two weeks out of release, I don't see that happening. | 10:18 |
| ryanakca | (or so I was told in #amarok) | 10:18 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: Nope :) | 10:19 |
| === ryanakca guesses he'll have to compile from sources or downgrade his iPod :) | ||
| crimsun | or just use edgy+1 when it opens | 10:19 |
| crimsun | I'm sure it'll be a {dapper,edgy}-backports request anyhow | 10:20 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 10:21 |
| oslo | no way to have differrent wallpaper on beryl with kde ??? | 10:31 |
| oslo | i'm on kubuntu edgy | 10:31 |
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| windshear | anyone has a floppy drive and is using kde 3.5.5 on edgy on a physical computer? | 11:00 |
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| ryanakca | was amarok compiled with aac tag editing support? | 11:54 |
| Tm_T | I'm sure not. | 11:57 |
| Tm_T | IIRC you can't get dependencies from repo. | 11:58 |
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| ryanakca | pitty | 12:03 |
| ryanakca | ummm... I think you can... | 12:04 |
| ryanakca | Tm_T: apt-cache search aac... if those aren't it, then nevermind :) | 12:04 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: Hmm... | 12:05 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: I see if svn compiles, I think repo stuff wasn't enough in dapper atleast. | 12:11 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: Whops, seems to work. | 12:12 |
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| ryanakca | lol | 12:14 |
| === ryanakca wonders if filing a bug will get it compiled with support... | ||
| ryanakca | it's a pain importing songs into iTunes, moving over, and not being able to edit their tags in amarok | 12:14 |
| Riddell | hi ryanakca | 12:16 |
| ryanakca | hey Riddell | 12:16 |
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