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[01:39] why is arts in the archives 1.5.4 and on kubuntu.org it's 1.5.5 ? [01:39] for edgy,thatis. === Hobbsee [n=user@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=user@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] hmm apt-get and aptitude perform quite differently when attempting to dist-upgrade, apt-get seems to be ok, aptitude complains about dependencies (even with --without-recommends) [01:53] (dapper->edgy that is) === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:23] hey all [02:24] hey [02:35] hey. [02:36] Hobbsee: have you seen that the arts version on archive.ubuntu.com is 1.5.4, and kubuntu.org got 1.5.5? is that intentional? [02:36] !info arts edgy [02:36] arts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB [02:36] not sure on that one [02:36] Riddell? === two-face [n=jerome@mol92-4-82-227-97-206.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:45] Hi [02:46] Hobbsee: if you throw a disk in your cdrom/dvdrom in kubuntu can you view the files? i have someone asking me in #ubuntu+1 and im trying to fix eclipse atm [02:46] I'd like to point out that kubuntu beta still does not boot on my system [02:47] as in knot3 [02:47] Bug #61987 [02:47] Malone bug 61987 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Kernel boot failure with Kubuntu knot3 on amd64+nforce4+sata2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61987 [02:47] two-face: is it dumping you into busy box? [02:47] gnomefreak: no it isn't [02:48] oh ok not the issue everyone else has than [02:48] right after unpacking the initrd it enters an endless loop [02:50] woohooo.. i have sysinfo:/ running on kubuntu :) === mhb thinks sysinfo:/ would be better as a menu item in systemsettings [02:53] gnomefreak: i'm currently on a live cd. sometimes, i think [02:56] ok ty [03:00] KDE 3.5.5 will be the default in Edgy, right? [03:03] mhb: yep [03:04] hmm [03:04] as usual nobody bothers to change the facts in Rosetta [03:05] Riddell: release notes in rosetta talk about KDE 3.5.4, somebody should fix that [03:06] Riddell: and nobody bothered with adding the Kubuntu introduction lines into hwdb-client Rosetta translation, as I mentioned to you a while ago [03:07] it's a bit frustrating when you translate the release notes but in the end they are either incorrect or your translation is not used === Hobbsee wonders if anyone actually uses rosetta anyway [03:11] as far as upstream seems to be concerned, it's a waste of time for kde, as the translations are in svn [03:12] Hobbsee: yes, we actually do [03:13] Hobbsee: you cannot translate ubuntu-docs in svn .o) [03:13] Hobbsee: or release notes [03:14] mhb: i was meaning the kde specific stuff. [03:15] Hobbsee: yes, it is mostly unused there === Hobbsee nods === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:16] hey bddebian [03:17] Heya Hobbsee [03:23] Hobbsee: Rosetta has its flaws [03:24] mhb: so i hear [03:25] Hobbsee: it's low on features (still we cannot even search through strings or through package names) [03:26] Hobbsee: you have to flip throught 10 pages of package lists to find a package (or do a workaround and search for its source) [03:26] ouch [03:27] Hobbsee: and it seems to me that it's overlooked a bit by the LP maintainers [03:28] mhb: i cant speak for them - i've got nothing to do with it [03:29] Hobbsee: well I talked with them once and little changed === mhb stops complaining now :o) [03:31] hehe [03:31] mhb: i cant do anything about it, as it's LP [03:31] Hobbsee: I know it well, that's why I stopped .o) [03:32] :P [03:32] ..... [03:32] why are we installing libgtk2.0in a default kubuntu install? === Hobbsee notes that the lag is bad, as she's also downoading large amounts of data [03:33] kubuntu getting rid of qt ;) [03:34] hehe [03:34] well, i wouldnt mind grabbing their update manager, as that looks neat [03:35] Hobbsee: I think it's edgy+1 for it [03:35] nice :) === Hobbsee now has space for edgy+1 [03:35] Jonathan mentioned that, IIRC === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:10] hmmm. libxine1 has a lot of the same files as libxine-main1 [04:10] and amarok depends on one, kaffeine-xine depends on the other. impressive. === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:44] eh, kubuntu getting rid of qt? === ryanakca wonders how many times gnomefreak was dropped as a child... :) [04:44] Qt vs GTK... Qt wins anyday :) [04:45] lol ;) [04:45] was in the middle of eclipse issues and taht sounded good at the time :( [04:46] lol [04:46] eclipse.. isn't that some HTML / PHP IDE? [04:46] rings a bell... [04:47] java + others [04:47] it doesnt build :) [04:47] odd [04:47] jubuntu the java only ubuntu based distro? :) [04:47] hmm... I think I had used it on FC a year ago.. [04:48] i filed bug fixed one depends and now i have to build a lib to get it to build and check it again but not today [04:48] nuku: wouldn't that be uber uber slow? [04:48] either that or it's just my computer that java runs slowly one [04:49] -slow + garbage ;) [04:49] lol [04:49] gnomefreak: I guess that class never happened last night ? [04:49] ryanakca: well java is not that slow with jit .. only the awt and swing stuff really really sucks... [04:49] ok i go away and try to get my mind on something else. i dont know about lastnights class [04:49] later all [04:49] see yah [05:03] edgy uses amarok 1.4-beta3, right? [05:05] ryanakca: no 1.4.3 [05:08] nuku: I don't see 1.4.3 on bugs.kde.org... [05:08] it only goes up to 1.4.1 [05:08] nevermind :) [05:13] there are no more bugs in 1.4.3 *scnr* :) [05:16] ?? === ryanakca found one :P === My8os [n=My8os@ppp143-8.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549553CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:34] Hmm... [05:34] Anyone here who's using bluetooth? [05:35] hey kwwii [05:35] Tm_T: not here... what's happenning? [05:36] Behaviour differences between Dapper and Edgy, now my devices doesn't discover each other unless I make them. [05:37] I mean I have to trigger some transport myself. === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-054-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:47] Hmm, some problems with kcontrol & bt. === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:00] Tm_T: hm bluetooth works here.. whats the problem? [06:01] nuku: kcontrol -> internet -> bluetooth services -> device discovery [06:02] nuku: Those scripts doesn't affect at all, also I'm wondering why "also execute job regularly" is greyed out. === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:03] hm i see [06:04] That means, I can transfer files but discovery jobs are retarted. [06:05] yes i just used file transfer until now ... === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:06] My desktop supposed to lock/unlock depended to my position. [06:07] Also could sync stuff but haven't needed it yet. [06:07] there also seems to be a missing dependecy to kedit in kdebluetooth.. === ritch_ [n=rick@dt041n67.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:08] Yeah, though that editor part is defined in scripts. [06:09] So maybe just patching default scripts to point to kate is all we need. [06:09] Have the fix the cups issue with edgy 6.10 as of yet ? [06:09] sure that would be another option [06:20] nuku: Also, because KBluetoothD doesn't see my devices all the time, I can't use bluetooth to modem connection. ;( [06:20] Have to plug in USB. [06:24] Tm_T: hm this stuff seems to be broken indeed.. [06:25] nuku: Thanks for confirming, now we need to find out where is the actual problem. [06:28] hmm i think i have to reboot.. my dmesg is spammed by "VFS: busy inodes on changed media." never saw this before :/ [06:30] i wonder why its not set to filter out repeated messages.. === nuku [n=nuku@unaffiliated/nuku] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:37] nuku: All searches I tried, finds nothing, so I presume if I remove predefined device (my phone) I can't send files at all then. :p === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242374307.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:45] Tm_T: mmh beta2 of kdebluetooth seems to work ... === RockMan [n=marco@kde/developer/gulino] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:54] hi rockman :) [06:54] hi [06:54] so it seems that the device search does not find any devices that are not paired yet.. [06:55] and that for example the discovery service does not react.. [06:56] could you try beta2? [06:56] i updated the package, just waiting some testers to publish it [06:56] beta2 seems to work.. :) [06:56] question is.. is this due to a bug in beta1 or a packaging issue.. [06:56] http://zerogoki.homelinux.org/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta2.tar.bz2 [06:57] mh.. dunnow.. but beta2 is known to be patched to work better with newer version of some packages (bluez, openobex...) [06:57] i would reccomend including beta2 in next kubuntu.. it's not a heavy upgrade, just some patches, and well tested [07:01] Tm_T: might want to test the beta2 too if it solves your problems? [07:05] i wish my computer would be faster .. building takes still so long :/ [07:07] ? [07:08] nuku: Oh, great, I'll test it then. :) [07:19] RockMan: looks like it compiles and installs for me [07:20] Riddell: yep, i fixed the package [07:20] looks like ubuntu has two openobex packages though, libopenobex-1.0-0-dev and libopenobex1-dev === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [07:20] there was a warning where there should be an error, so the user was not notified about missing packages [07:21] (i imagine you installed libopenobex for the error, right?) [07:22] I got an error saying openobex >= 1.1 not installed [07:22] and installing libopenobex-1.0-0-dev fixed it [07:22] yep [07:27] that's not the version of libopenobex we currently use so I'll need to talk to dholbach about moving to that version for edgy+1 === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:31] I was just investigating those "monitor powersave timeouts go crazy after logout" bugs, and the problem isn't in /usr/bin/startkde. It must be something that kde_init runs. === rouzic [n=rouzic@103.Red-88-19-115.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@pD950B32E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:56] nuku: Roger, now it works :) [07:57] Tm_T: ah fine.. sorry had to go to lunch :) [07:58] Tm_T: so not that fine anyway as this means the kdebluetooth is still broken for edgy :/ [07:58] Yes === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-150-128.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@103.Red-88-19-115.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:08] Riddell: ping === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-113.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma is now known as toma_ === rouzic [n=rouzic@103.Red-88-19-115.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:42] i'm on kubuntu edgy with beryl & aiglx its working great !!!!! thks === TIMo0- [i=PJIRCWeb@cpc2-stkn1-0-0-cust883.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:52] whos lilo [08:53] Wh is lilo [08:55] like grub [08:55] lilo as in LInux LOader is a bootloader like grub [08:56] ^^ ; exactly === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:58] OHH i see :s [08:59] TIMo0-: What's the problem? [09:00] TIMo0-: Referring to topic? lilo was the man behind freenode. [09:00] im im realy :S [09:01] Freenodeb is a irc server right [09:02] Irc network and more. [09:02] IIRC [09:03] lilo as in LInux LOader is a bootloader like grub ,is this bull then ? [09:03] Well, lilo was person and also lilo is bootloader. [09:03] Same name, two things. [09:04] i suppose lilo got his name from the bootloader lilo :) [09:04] but thats just a blind guess .. [09:06] Good guess thou :D [09:17] kubuntu-devel whats it about === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-113.async.iserv.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:28] good evening === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === mike__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242377830.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === orkid__ [n=orkid__@74.13.46.102] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@20.43-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:17] bug 64573, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135688 [10:17] Malone bug 64573 in amarok "Amarok crashes on iPod connection" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64573 [10:17] KDE bug 135688 in Mediabrowser "Amarok Crashes when setting /dev/sda2 to Apple iPod" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [10:17] [16:08] ryanakca: perhaps you can push the ubuntu people a bit to include libgpod 0.4 in edgy ... [10:18] in order to get iPods that upgraded to firmware 1.2.x to work with edgy's amarok, edgy would need to include libgpod 0.4 as a dependency of amarok... problem is, we only have libgpod 0.3.2 in the repos at the moment... [10:18] and being less than two weeks out of release, I don't see that happening. [10:18] (or so I was told in #amarok) [10:19] crimsun: Nope :) === ryanakca guesses he'll have to compile from sources or downgrade his iPod :) [10:19] or just use edgy+1 when it opens [10:20] I'm sure it'll be a {dapper,edgy}-backports request anyhow [10:21] yeah [10:31] no way to have differrent wallpaper on beryl with kde ??? [10:31] i'm on kubuntu edgy === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luka74 [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === windshear [n=Alain@vpn-wh.rz-zw.fh-kl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:00] anyone has a floppy drive and is using kde 3.5.5 on edgy on a physical computer? === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242377830.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luka74 is now known as Lure === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@103.Red-88-19-115.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:54] was amarok compiled with aac tag editing support? [11:57] I'm sure not. [11:58] IIRC you can't get dependencies from repo. === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:03] pitty [12:04] ummm... I think you can... [12:04] Tm_T: apt-cache search aac... if those aren't it, then nevermind :) [12:05] ryanakca: Hmm... [12:11] ryanakca: I see if svn compiles, I think repo stuff wasn't enough in dapper atleast. [12:12] ryanakca: Whops, seems to work. === Tm_T hides [12:14] lol === ryanakca wonders if filing a bug will get it compiled with support... [12:14] it's a pain importing songs into iTunes, moving over, and not being able to edit their tags in amarok [12:16] hi ryanakca [12:16] hey Riddell