[12:13] <BluesKaj> i don't think ubuntu is insatlled ...it's looking for the live cd
[12:13] <The_Night_Wolf> You want Ubuntu on your HD right?  THen you install it, rebootm and take the CD out
[12:13] <BluesKaj> that's why it's rebooting
[12:13] <Rapidwolve> BluesKaj, someone else already told me that it does insall
[12:14] <Rapidwolve> The_Night_Wolf, How do I install it?
[12:14] <Rapidwolve> its Kubuntu 6.0.6 Drapper
[12:14] <Rapidwolve> btw
[12:14] <The_Night_Wolf> You click the "Install" buttion on your desktop.
[12:14] <Rapidwolve> I did that
[12:14] <Rapidwolve> is anything supposed to pop up?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> do you have a partition for it called ext or hda3
[12:14] <Rapidwolve> Because it says loading the application on the bottom
[12:14] <The_Night_Wolf> Hm...
[12:14] <Rapidwolve> and then the program turns off
[12:15] <The_Night_Wolf> Reboot, and take the CD out.
[12:15] <Rapidwolve> BluesKaj, the installer does that automatically and yes
[12:15] <Rapidwolve> The_Night_Wolf: already tried that
[12:15] <The_Night_Wolf> THen it should run Ubuntu.
[12:15] <The_Night_Wolf> Oh.
[12:15] <Rapidwolve> It just reboots
[12:15] <The_Night_Wolf> Um...
[12:15] <BluesKaj> it should open
[12:15] <The_Night_Wolf> Yes.
[12:15] <Rapidwolve> I think its the problem with the Install
[12:15] <Rapidwolve> on the desktop
[12:15] <Rapidwolve> because when I click it the icon shows up near my mouse
[12:15] <The_Night_Wolf> Yeah.
[12:15] <Rapidwolve> and on the bottom
[12:15] <digivore> !cvs
[12:15] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[12:15] <Rapidwolve> and then the program stops and disappears
[12:15] <The_Night_Wolf> Just try it again.
[12:16] <Rapidwolve> Alright
[12:16] <The_Night_Wolf> :)
[12:16] <gingillo> hi, can i have some urls for the repositories that i need if i am a newb of linux? Thanks
[12:16] <BluesKaj> are you running the live cd now , Rapidwolve?
[12:16] <Rapidwolve> Thanks
[12:16] <Rapidwolve> Yes im about to run it
[12:16] <The_Night_Wolf> Okay.
[12:16] <logankoester> I just installed kubuntu on my laptop and I'm not sure how to get my "Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller" audio working - I'd like to paypal someone a few bucks to connect and configure it for me, if anyone is interested?
[12:16] <Rapidwolve> No
[12:16] <Rapidwolve> Im on windows, BluesKaj
[12:16] <Brydenn33> k i'm having a problem and its annoying the hell outta me
[12:16] <Rapidwolve> The_Night_Wolf: Would it help if I told you that im not using Grub Bootloader? Im using boot.ini in C:\
[12:16] <The_Night_Wolf> Come back and tell me if it worked.
[12:17] <Rapidwolve> Alright
[12:17] <Brydenn33> everytime i go to use the search box to find something a box comes up saying "Sorry, could not find mime type application/octet-stream
[12:17] <Brydenn33> what does that mean?
[12:17] <Brydenn33> how do i fix it
[12:17] <The_Night_Wolf> What search box?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> have you checked your BIOS boot sequence to put the C drive as the first boot
[12:17] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:17] <Brydenn33> The_Night_Wolf: like the one from the KDE start button
[12:17] <Brydenn33> i go to find files/folders
[12:18] <Brydenn33> enter in what i want and hit search. and the boxes just start flying open
[12:18] <The_Night_Wolf> Hm...
[12:18] <Brydenn33> i gets to like 100+ boxes that open up
[12:18] <The_Night_Wolf> Brb.
[12:18] <Brydenn33> k
[12:18] <Jonty> logankoester: As eager as I am to earn money, configuring a sound card often isn't as hard as you think
[12:19] <Kim^J> In Edgy Eft knot3. Is there SMP from the beginning?
[12:19] <logankoester> Jonty: You underestimate my laziness :-p care to help me out?
[12:20] <Tim90> Every time i type ,"su" i get su: Authentication failure Sorry.
[12:20] <Jonty> logankoester: I'm think sigle edit to one line simple
[12:20] <Jonty> Most of the configuration is done for you - you just have to tweak it slightly, usually
[12:20] <BluesKaj> The_Night_Wolf,  I don't think Rapidwolve's MBR was installed properly
[12:20] <logankoester> Jonty: alright, what do I do then?
[12:20] <logankoester> :)
[12:21] <am4nda> can anyone tell me how to get symbol fonts to work in firefox?
[12:21] <Jonty> logankoester: Is it a laptop you're on?
[12:22] <logankoester> Jonty: yep
[12:23] <Jonty> because the wiki shows lots of laptops tested and having it but gives no help on configuring it
[12:23] <Jonty> you're sure it's definately not working
[12:23] <Jonty> what happens when you run kmix?
[12:23] <logankoester> Jonty: kmix comes up fine
[12:24] <Jonty> and you can muck around with volumes and everything?
[12:24] <logankoester> yup
[12:24] <Rapidwolve> Back
[12:24] <Jonty> then your soundcard seems to be working fine
[12:24] <Rapidwolve> The problem is, is that it doesnt install
[12:24] <Tim90> Sone one having sound problems
[12:24] <Rapidwolve> , The_Night_Wolf
[12:24] <Jonty> logankoester: but you can't hear sound with it?
[12:24] <logankoester> yeah, exactly
[12:25] <Tim90> True using your default sound card
[12:25] <Jonty> sure all volumes are up, all cables are connected etc.?
[12:25] <logankoester> yup
[12:25] <gingillo> hi, can you help me? i need a list of repositories for adept manager, im noob of linux and i'd like to listen to music, do some stupid things
[12:26] <xavier> gingillo: search for mpg123
[12:26] <Jonty> logankoester: hmm
[12:27] <Jonty> logankoester: it may be a problem with alsa. Open synaptic and search "alsa" and tell me what is there and showing as installed
[12:27] <am4nda> Does anyone know how to get symbol fonts to work in firefox? ive tried searching the web and none of the fixes there worked. ive got Standard Symbols L installed
[12:27] <Rapidwolve> Apparently the LiveCD doesnt install
[12:27] <Tim90> Try using the built in sound card if you having problems with sound
[12:27] <gingillo> xavier: i dont find nothing! I remember thath i need something like multiverse..
[12:28] <xavier> u need to uncomment some lines in your your sources.list and update it .. google it
[12:28] <AWOSDev> I have a problem with MIDIs, none of them play.  It always complains that it can't open /dev/sequencer.  I have tried to modprobe sndseq, but when I do I don't hear it playing (even though it says it is).
[12:28] <xavier> gingillo: ^^
[12:28] <gingillo> xavier: ok ;)
[12:28] <AWOSDev> !sources
[12:28] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:28] <gingillo> xavier: thanks
[12:28] <gingillo> AW0SDev: Thanks :P:P
[12:29] <AWOSDev> gingillo, also look at
[12:29] <AWOSDev> !source-o-matic
[12:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:29] <gingillo> wow! you saved my life :P
[12:29] <AWOSDev> gingillo, np :)
[12:29] <Tim90> Good work
[12:29] <AWOSDev> Tim90, thanks ;)
[12:30] <gingillo> ooooooooook, now: a new NOOB question! How do i change my os language in italian? :D
[12:30] <Tim90> Can you shed some light on my situation
[12:30] <logankoester> Jonty: alsa-base, alsa-firmware-loaders, alsa-oss, alsa-source, alsa-tools, alsa-utils, libasound2, libesd-alsa0, linux-sound-base
[12:30] <AWOSDev> gingillo, sudo apt-get install language-pack-it
[12:30] <Tim90> su: Authentication failure
[12:30] <Tim90> Sorry.
[12:31] <AWOSDev> Tim90, sudo not su.  Ubuntu doesn't have su, remember?
[12:31] <AWOSDev> !su
[12:31] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:31] <gingillo> AWOSDev: Thanks :)
[12:31] <AWOSDev> gingillo, also: sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-it
[12:32] <Tim90> thanks
[12:32] <AWOSDev> Tim90, np
[12:32] <AWOSDev> Oh and about the MIDI, I don't have a hardware sequencer on here, so I can only use a software-based sequencer.
[12:32] <AWOSDev> Is that going to be a problem?
[12:33] <logankoester> Jonty: still with me bro?
[12:33] <Jonty> logankoester: yes, sorry
[12:33] <T3hWiz0rd> !k3b-mp3
[12:33] <Jonty> http://www.hermit.org/Linux/HPCompaq-nc8430Ubu.html
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k3b-mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <AWOSDev> !info k3b
[12:34] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 3941 kB, installed size 8376 kB
[12:34] <AWOSDev> !info liblame0
[12:34] <ubotu> liblame0: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 147 kB, installed size 376 kB
[12:34] <AWOSDev> T3hWiz0rd, answer your question?  :)
[12:34] <Jonty> logankoester: so you're sure, running, say, amarok and playing a sound file, that the sound isn't working?
[12:34] <Brydenn33> The_Night_Wolf: you there?
[12:34] <logankoester> Jonty: yeah, can't hear anything
[12:35] <Jonty> hmm
[12:35] <T3hWiz0rd> AWOSDev: lol yes... have my babies!
[12:35] <Jonty> http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286
[12:35] <AWOSDev> logankoester, does it even try to play or does it just immediately say "playlist finished"?
[12:36] <logankoester> yeah I read that thread
[12:36] <Jonty> aha: http://www.gidnetwork.com/b-106.html
[12:36] <T3hWiz0rd> AWOSDev: now do you know how to make quickcam uvc drivers work? lol
[12:36] <logankoester> AWOSDev: immediately says playlist finished, from amarok
[12:36] <am4nda> Does anyone know how to get symbol fonts to work in firefox? ive tried searching the web and none of the fixes there worked. ive got Standard Symbols L installed
[12:36] <AWOSDev> T3hWiz0rd sorry nope
[12:36] <Jonty> logankoester: That's probably more it can't play the file. Anyway, do what that page I just gave you (http://www.gidnetwork.com/b-106.html) says
[12:36] <AWOSDev> logankoester, then you are missing a codec -- if it was your sound card it would say "playing" but you wouldn't hear anything -- MP3?  Ogg?  WMA?
[12:37] <AWOSDev> Should I go to #Ubuntu for my MIDI problem?
[12:37] <logankoester> It was a wav file - but I can't get any sound out of the sound test in the sound & multimedia system settings dialogue either....
[12:39] <maryen> !edgy
[12:39] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:39] <gingillo> i have another question, if you have the patience to help me :P. I have partitioned my disk and i want to take some music from the windows partitions, but the access is negated, how do i take my music?
[12:39] <maryen> !schedule
[12:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:39] <AWOSDev> gingillo, NTFS or FAT?
[12:41] <gingillo> AWOSDev: i'ts NTFS
[12:41] <TheGateKeeper> repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[12:42] <am4nda> Does anyone know how to get symbol fonts to work in firefox? ive tried searching the web and none of the fixes there worked. ive got Standard Symbols L installed
[12:45] <AWOSDev> gingillo, okay
[12:45] <AWOSDev> gingillo, is it mounted?  I mean, what is the problem you are having?
[12:48] <AWOSDev> Oh and just to let you know, I fixed my MIDI problem, I apt-got "timidity" and it works wonderful.
[12:51] <gingillo> AWOSDev: i see the partition, but i cant browse it!
[12:52] <AWOSDev> gingillo, what error?  Does it say something like "Permission denied"?
[12:53] <gingillo> AWOSDev: wait, no! it says"could not mount the device".. im sorry
[12:55] <AWOSDev> gingillo, how are you mounting it?
[12:55] <TabooTreez> anyone know how I could speed up kubuntu
[12:55] <TabooTreez> I recently was using vector linux
[12:55] <TabooTreez> the speed was amazing
[12:55] <AWOSDev> TabooTreez, well add more memory :)
[12:56] <TabooTreez> AWOSDev: a free way would be a lot better
[12:57] <AWOSDev> TabooTreez, yeah I know didn't you see the smiley?
[12:57] <TheGateKeeper> TabooTreez: there is possible info on removing services etc that you don't need on the forums
[12:57] <gingillo> AWOSDev: i cant mount it:when i try (with the right button->mount :P)  it says:"impossible to find  /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab "
[12:57] <AWOSDev> gingillo, okay, go in to the Konsole
[12:58] <AWOSDev> TabooTreez, try and disable any visual effects you don't need
[12:58] <gingillo> AWOSDev: i am there :D
[12:58] <AWOSDev> TabooTreez, also taking down the number of Virtual Desktops may help a little, as well as taking off unneeded panel items
[12:58] <AWOSDev> gingillo, first type "cd /media"
[12:58] <TabooTreez> AWOSDev: i reacall hearing something about linking apps or something
[01:00] <gingillo> AWOSDev: ok
[01:00] <AWOSDev> gingillo, type "ls" and see if there's an entry called "hda1"
[01:00] <livingdaylight> someone knowthe command to tell me how much space i have on my hard disc?
[01:00] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight, df -h
[01:00] <gingillo> AWOSDev: yes, after cdrom and cdrom0
[01:00] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: thx :)
[01:01] <AWOSDev> gingillo, okay good
[01:01] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight, np :)
[01:01] <am4nda> Does anyone know how to get symbol fonts to work in firefox? ive tried searching the web and none of the fixes there worked. ive got Standard Symbols L installed
[01:01] <AWOSDev> gingillo, okay now type "sudo vi /etc/fstab"
[01:02] <livingdaylight> what can i do? my disc is full?
[01:02] <gingillo> AWOSDev: wow O.o typed
[01:02] <AWOSDev> gingillo, okay now press the Insert key, it's right above Delete
[01:02] <AWOSDev> gingillo, then use the down arrow key to scroll to the bottom of the document
[01:02] <thunderstorm> n8@all
[01:03] <AWOSDev> thunderstorm, g'night ;)
[01:03] <AWOSDev> gingillo, then press the END key
[01:03] <AWOSDev> gingillo, then press the ENTER key
[01:03] <AWOSDev> gingillo, then type this line exactly as shown here onto that new blank line:
[01:03] <loxs> hey anyone have much luck installing XGL and is it worth installing it?
[01:03] <gingillo> ok
[01:04] <AWOSDev> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0
[01:04] <AWOSDev> 1
[01:04] <gingillo> AWOSDev: can i paste it?
[01:04] <AWOSDev> sorry the 1 should be on the same line
[01:04] <AWOSDev> yes
[01:04] <AWOSDev> gingillo, go ahead and copy / paste but the 1 needs to be after the 0
[01:05] <gingillo> ok
[01:05] <gingillo> next to the 0
[01:05] <AWOSDev> gingillo, meaning copy that line then press space and 1 -- *there needs to be a space between the 0 and the 1*
[01:05] <gingillo> ok :P
[01:05] <AWOSDev> :)
[01:05] <gingillo> done
[01:05] <gingillo> enter?
[01:05] <AWOSDev> Um no
[01:05] <AWOSDev> press escape
[01:05] <AWOSDev> then type
[01:06] <AWOSDev> :wq
[01:06] <gingillo> done
[01:06] <AWOSDev> now try and right-click and mount
[01:07] <loxs> do you not need the ! on the end of wq?
[01:07] <AWOSDev> loxs, q! means quit without saving
[01:07] <AWOSDev> :)
[01:07] <loxs> ah ok
[01:07] <gingillo> do i need to press enter after :wq? :P i don't wanna to do nothing wrote
[01:07] <loxs> what about :wq!?
[01:07] <AWOSDev> gingillo, yes press enter :)
[01:07] <AWOSDev> loxs, no clue, prolly cause a SIGSEGV or something :P
[01:08] <loxs> lol i always use :wq! to exit vi
[01:08] <loxs> lol
[01:08] <AWOSDev> loxs, I tried it, same as :wq with no !
[01:08] <AWOSDev> loxs, so the ! does nothing
[01:08] <loxs> ah ok
[01:08] <gingillo> AWOSDev: ok, there is someting wrong, i'm queryng you
[01:08] <AWOSDev> but without the W that would cause it to "quit without writing"
[01:08] <loxs> yeh
[01:08] <AWOSDev> gingillo, okay
[01:08] <loxs> the w = write
[01:09] <AWOSDev> loxs, right but if you just type "q" without the "!" and you have unsaved changes it will not quit
[01:09] <gingillo> i am not registered..
[01:09] <AWOSDev> gingillo :(
[01:09] <loxs> lol been using linux 5 days now :)
[01:09] <loxs> lol
[01:09] <gingillo> i wanted to send you my fastab
[01:10] <AWOSDev> gingillo that's okay it should be okay
[01:10] <AWOSDev> gingillo same error as before?
[01:10] <gingillo> it isnt because i forgot to say
[01:10] <loxs> whats he trying to do?
[01:10] <AWOSDev> loxs, mount NTFS
[01:10] <loxs> using fstab?
[01:10] <livingdaylight> Firefox is not sending links?
[01:10] <livingdaylight> how do i configure that?
[01:10] <loxs> sending links?
[01:10] <AWOSDev> loxs, we're trying to make it so that he doesn't have to sudo -s to be able to access it :)
[01:11] <loxs> aha
[01:11] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight, hmm?
[01:11] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: i click File/send link and nothing happens
[01:11] <gingillo> AWOSDev: it isnt ok because i forgot to say  thath i am a real noob and i have 2 hard disks.. one with windows and linux and one with linux
[01:11] <AWOSDev> gingillo ahhhh okay
[01:11] <loxs> you got email setup?
[01:11] <AWOSDev> gingillo hold on a second
[01:11] <gingillo> sorry, the last
[01:11] <gingillo> is with windows not with linux
[01:12] <gingillo> i need to sleep -.-'
[01:12] <livingdaylight> loxs: with kmail, yea
[01:12] <loxs> hmmm
[01:12] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight, does it start your email program?
[01:12] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: no
[01:12] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: that precisely the problem
[01:12] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight, is your email program properly configured?
[01:12] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: my kmail is configured
[01:13] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight, try typing "mailto:somebody@somewhere.local" (no quotes) in to your address bar
[01:13] <loxs> i think firefox tried to use evolution doesnt it?
[01:13] <AWOSDev> loxs, in plain Ubuntu yes :)
[01:13] <livingdaylight> loxs: it does in Ubuntu, i have no idea of how things are configured by default in Kubuntu
[01:13] <loxs> ah ok so you need to set your other email client as default or something?
[01:14] <loxs> im not sure
[01:14] <loxs> <.... is Windows Sys Admin lol
[01:14] <AWOSDev> loxs, livingdaylight, hold on a second
[01:14] <AWOSDev> loxs, yes it shows :P
[01:14] <loxs> haha
[01:15] <gingillo> AWOSDev: i need to sleep, i smoked like a jamaican and im gettin a bit stoned, i'll return there tomorrow. Thanks. You are a very good guy :)
[01:15] <loxs> brb
[01:15] <loxs> gimmie 2mins
[01:15] <livingdaylight> gingillo:  is high
[01:15] <AWOSDev> gingillo, okay, well, have a good sleep, and thanks for the complement.  :)
[01:15] <livingdaylight> k
[01:15] <gingillo> livingdaylight: what?
[01:16] <chx> is there a way to have a shortcut (cltr+alt+pgup / pgdwn) to switch to next/previous item in Klipper?
[01:16] <AWOSDev> gingillo, are you in Italy?
[01:16] <livingdaylight> you are high, and need to lie down, hahaha
[01:16] <gingillo> AWOSDev: yea lol
[01:16] <AWOSDev> gingillo, okay.  that would actually be illegal in US :)
[01:17] <gingillo> AWOSDev: it is illegal in italy too lol. But i said i smoked :P i dindt said what. I smoked a cigarette :D:D :P
[01:17] <livingdaylight> oh, is that what a jamaican is?
[01:18] <AWOSDev> gingillo, LOL :P
[01:18] <livingdaylight> i thoght you were gonna say: 'i said i smoked - i didn't say i inhaled'
[01:18] <loxs> AWOSDev: you install XGL?
[01:18] <gingillo> livingdaylight: XDDDD
[01:18] <AWOSDev> loxs, no
[01:18] <livingdaylight> loxs: i got xgl
[01:18] <loxs> yeh?
[01:18] <loxs> what gfx card you got?
[01:18] <livingdaylight> no big deal
[01:18] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight hold on I got what the problem is
[01:19] <gingillo> livingdaylight: xgl + compiz? its orgaaaaasmiiiiic
[01:19] <livingdaylight> Geforce nvidia660GT
[01:19] <loxs> ah ok i have ati
[01:19] <livingdaylight> XGL+Beryl
[01:19] <gingillo> i like more xgl+compiz
[01:19] <livingdaylight> check #beryl
[01:19] <loxs> yeh i have it all installed
[01:19] <raichoo> aiglx+beryl = orgasmic ;)
[01:19] <loxs> just doesnt seem to start
[01:19] <gingillo> lol
[01:20] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: please tell me
[01:20] <loxs> beryl and emerald?
[01:20] <livingdaylight> loxs: yes
[01:20] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight okay go in to Firefox and type 'about:config' into the address bar
[01:20] <loxs> yeh nothing seems to chabge
[01:20] <T3hWiz0rd> So check it out, I am making a touch screen system in my work out room using kubuntu to play music and videos.
[01:20] <clyrrad> anyone know how to rename a smbfs share that is auto mounted?  I am refering to the icon that shows on your desktop... anyone know how to do this?
[01:20] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight context-click anywhere and go for "New->String"
[01:20] <T3hWiz0rd> its gonna be pretty sweet, I am getting the touch screen here in about 2 weeks, ordered from overseas.
[01:21] <AWOSDev> T3hWiz0rd coooooooooooooolness
[01:21] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: woah....context-click??
[01:21] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight sorry my Windows 3.1 days came back, I guess you people call it right-click now
[01:21] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: how, where?
[01:21] <T3hWiz0rd> AWOSDev: its gonna be great. The touch-screen unit is gonna be detatchable and the video output to 2 huge LCD's
[01:21] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: lol, ok...
[01:21] <am4nda> Does anyone know how to get symbol fonts to work in firefox? ive tried searching the web and none of the fixes there worked. ive got Standard Symbols L installed
[01:22] <AWOSDev> T3hWiz0rd cool :)  sounds like a sweet setup
[01:22] <soulrider> how can i start an application with KDE ?
[01:22] <loxs> so are there any cool apps for linux
[01:22] <AWOSDev> soulrider, ALT+F2
[01:22] <loxs> only been using it 4 days now i guess
[01:22] <T3hWiz0rd> AWOSDev: just to make it work is gonna be the hard part. Right now I got a suse server in my closet that can broadcast music to the 2 recevers in my house but in order to change the songs I have to have a computer open with ssh
[01:22] <loxs> and looking to get a bit more involved in it
[01:22] <AWOSDev> T3hWiz0rd, that's a problem?
[01:22] <soulrider> loxs: i meant autostart
[01:22] <T3hWiz0rd> AWOSDev: not convenient. So what i want is to set p the touch screen on say a tablet PC and also have a desktop touchscreen for it.
[01:23] <T3hWiz0rd> AWOSDev: when you'e running on a tredmil, yes... ssh isn't easy lol
[01:23] <AWOSDev> ewwwwwwwww
[01:23] <AWOSDev> big wreck
[01:23] <T3hWiz0rd> AWOSDev: as where if its in a tablet pc and also has a larger external touch-screen monitor, i can pick up the tablet and change songs and video at the mometn i want it.
[01:23] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: what am i doing with a new string?
[01:24] <livingdaylight> loxs: http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5063-howto-xgl-beryl-kubuntu-dapper-with-nvidia
[01:24] <T3hWiz0rd> AWOSDev: i am hoping here soon the devels of amarok will add video playback as an additional feature to it.
[01:25] <AWOSDev> T3hWiz0rd yeah that would be cool, in the meantime you can use something like VLC or Mplayer (or even xine)
[01:25] <raichoo> how come everybody still wants XGL when nvidia released the beta drivers with aiglx support?
[01:25] <T3hWiz0rd> AWOSDev: i like Kaffeine :-)
[01:25] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight okay the preference name is:
[01:25] <soulrider> i just installed beryl
[01:25] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: aha...
[01:25] <AWOSDev> network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
[01:25] <soulrider> its FREAGGIN AWESOME!
[01:25] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: woah
[01:25] <loxs> i have ati card
[01:25] <loxs> not nvidia
[01:26] <raichoo> ah ok
[01:26] <livingdaylight> loxs: sorry
[01:26] <loxs> lol no probs
[01:26] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight sorry I was watching the NASCAR race
[01:26] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: so i right click anywhwere new string and paste that in?
[01:26] <AWOSDev> (NBC if anybody else here watches NASCAR and forgot)
[01:26] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight correct, right-click then say "New->String"
[01:26] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: yea, you got a nice pile up going there? :)
[01:26] <T3hWiz0rd> AWOSDev: its time for my fat self to go for a run though, and listen to music on my cheaply set up ssh player lol
[01:26] <soulrider> how can i make somehting autostart with KDE ?
[01:26] <AWOSDev> T3hWiz0rd okay have fun :)
[01:27] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight yeah -- Lap 1 and 6 cars are wrecked
[01:27] <suifur> soulrider: make an entry in the Autostart folder in .kde
[01:27] <AWOSDev> crazy week for NASCAR
[01:27] <AWOSDev> anyway
[01:27] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: hehe...
[01:27] <soulrider> like a symb link ?
[01:27] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: yea..and now what? ;)
[01:27] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight you get a new string yet?
[01:28] <livingdaylight> i've pasted network.protocol-handler.app.mailto into the new string
[01:28] <AWOSDev> okay now
[01:28] <Sutoka> soulrider: ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:28] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight the value is    /usr/bin/kmail
[01:28] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: by the way i can't believe it can be this hard :)
[01:28] <Sutoka> soulrider: either a executable shell script, or like a .desktop file should work
[01:28] <suifur> soulrider: http://www.perturb.org/display/entry/591/ <-- example
[01:28] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: kool
[01:29] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight np :)
[01:29] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: there's a new string now added to that value
[01:29] <coreymon77> is ceros around
[01:29] <coreymon77> ?
[01:29] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: now lets see it work :o
[01:29] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight right, now, does send link work??
[01:29] <Sutoka> soulrider: i would set the KDE_WM variable though
[01:29] <AWOSDev> coreymon77, try typing this   !seen ceros
[01:30] <coreymon77> !seen ceros
[01:30] <ubotu> I last saw ceros (n=user@c-68-49-247-245.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 6h 53m 52s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[01:30] <AWOSDev> coreymon77: Cool feature, huh?  :)
[01:30] <coreymon77> yup
[01:31] <coreymon77> does it natter if i use capitals or not
[01:31] <AWOSDev> No I don't think the bot cares
[01:31] <AWOSDev> !seen awosdev
[01:31] <coreymon77> im not sure if his name is ceros or Ceros
[01:31] <ubotu> AWOSDev is on IRC right now!
[01:31] <suifur> is next version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu sposed to release with XGL/compriz?
[01:31] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: kinda works
[01:31] <AWOSDev> coreymon77: See
[01:31] <suifur> ceros == Ceros, its not case sensitive
[01:31] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: Kmail comes up but not with the link already linked as per usual
[01:31] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight yeah mine too, it's a limitation :(
[01:32] <AWOSDev> Oh watch this, I'll only do this one thing then I'll stop playing with the bot, but this is funny:
[01:32] <AWOSDev> !seen anything
[01:32] <ubotu> I haven't seen anything recently
[01:32] <AWOSDev> poor blind bot :P
[01:32] <coreymon77> lol
[01:33] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: ok :( I'll live with that (for the time being) :)
[01:33] <coreymon77> im gonna feed this poor blind bot
[01:33] <coreymon77> !botsnack
[01:33] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:33] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: thank you
[01:33] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight np :)
[01:33] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: Thank You very much
[01:33] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: that new string was quite a party trick
[01:33] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: hadn't seen that before
[01:33] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight yeah it was -- I had the same problem, found it on the KDE mailing this
[01:33] <AWOSDev> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdepim-users&m=113760822803969&w=2
[01:34] <AWOSDev> s/this/list
[01:34] <AWOSDev> Only in Kubuntu's Firefox you don't modify it because it doesn't exist, I think somebody at Canonical forgot :P
[01:35] <AWOSDev> livingdaylight yeah I play with the about:config frequently in Thunderbird, I like messing with the raw config rather than going through the Options dialog :)
[01:36] <AWOSDev> anyway
[01:36] <AWOSDev> I should be going now
[01:37] <AWOSDev> watch the rest of the crazy NASCAR race
[01:37] <AWOSDev> sheesh they got them going green flag again, and the safety workers were still on the track!
[01:37] <AWOSDev> craziness
[01:37] <AWOSDev> well, bye
[01:38] <livingdaylight> AWOSDev: right! Options and preferences is how i am accustomed to doing everything configuration-wise in applications
[01:41] <loxs> whats a good c compiler ?
[01:41] <poningru> gcc?
[01:41] <LjL> !compile
[01:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:41] <loxs> hm i have that installed but it wont create this file
[01:42] <LjL> loxs, i'm not sure we can know what "this file" is unless you tell us...
[01:43] <loxs> ah it was  nothing major just an app like bginfo  but for linux
[01:44] <LjL> loxs, read the tips from Ubotu. they should help you compile most software.
[01:50] <clyrrad> damn no luck on the samba channel either
[01:52] <yogisg> hello
[01:53] <yogisg> i need a bit of help with kubuntu ^
[01:53] <tetox> ciao
[01:53] <tetox> no
[01:53] <yogisg> linux newbie^^
[01:53] <yogisg> i cant use apt in the console...
[01:54] <tetox> qualche volta
[01:54] <yogisg> bash: apt: command not found
[01:54] <loxs> apt-get
[01:54] <tetox> some time
[01:55] <yogisg> O.o  ok im an idiot
[01:55] <orkid__> sudo apt-get ...
[01:55] <yogisg> thx...
[01:55] <LjL> !it
[01:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:55] <loxs> no ur not just new to linux
[01:55] <tetox> ok
[01:55] <yogisg> and where can i get easy kubuntu ?
[01:55] <yogisg> what cha mean?
[01:55] <yogisg> sure im new
[01:55] <loxs> yeh thats what i mean your not an idiot
[01:56] <sorush21> can i view the the date on my kde clock ?
[01:56] <loxs> your jusr new
[01:56] <yogisg> thanks thats kind ^^
[01:56] <routh> can the kernel on the x/k/ubuntu disks boot a system on a usb disk? by say using root=/dev/discs/disc0/part1
[01:57] <david_> routh: not really
[01:57] <david_> USB get's initialized by the kernel later on
[01:57] <david_> grubs rather dim
[01:57] <max_> does anyone use any psx emulators?
[01:57] <david_> grub doesn't refer to things as /dev/xxx but by the logical address i.e (hd0,0)
[01:58] <yogisg> i have another problem (kde) i want to change the display resolution but in the systems settings theres i nothing...it says i have to click the administrator mode button.... and then theres nothin but a red box
[01:58] <david_> your best bet would be just to boost removable drive in the bios boot priority
[01:58] <cpk2> yogisg: you dont need easy ubuntu...
[01:58] <routh> david_: No bios support - need to work around it
[01:58] <yogisg> @cpk2 why? i heard its good
[01:59] <david_> yogisg: try making the window a bit bigger. sometimes the "administration mode" button is hidden
[01:59] <cpk2> yogisg: what do you need easy ubuntu to do for you?
[01:59] <yogisg> @ david No it isnt the button is there but when i click it nothin happen....theres just a red box in the window..
[01:59] <david_> routh: ah. The #ubuntu channel is a bit bigger and it's cross DE
[02:00] <yogisg> more support etc- ?
[02:00] <yogisg> support for mp3s for example.... shouldnt i use it..?
[02:00] <routh> david_: was thinking of making a custom boot cd with grub and a kernel with an initrd to load the support on it - the ide controller on my laptop is failed so I'm going to work around it untill I can get new one..
[02:00] <david_> routh: live C with /home mounted on USB would do the trick
[02:00] <david_> *live CD
[02:01] <routh> yeah but live cd is slow - would like to have the system on the disk so I can make permanent changes as well
[02:01] <cpk2> yogisg: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:01] <default> orly
[02:01] <cpk2> thats all you need for mp3 support
[02:02] <yogisg> oh thx :D
[02:02] <yogisg> can i change the screen resolution through the console? since the gui wont work ... -.-
[02:02] <tom__> yo dog!
[02:02] <default> yeeeeeeee
[02:03] <cpk2> you could put only one resolution in xorg but I dont understand why the gui wouldnt work
[02:03] <yogisg> ok theres this "administrator mode" button
[02:04] <david_> routh: I'm stumped then
[02:04] <yogisg> but when i click it nothin happens.. the inside window (where the options should be) just gets an red frame
[02:05] <david_> routh: well there is chroot. though not used that for switching over fully
[02:05] <routh> hmmm
[02:05] <david_> I'm off to sleep guys. nn!
[02:05] <routh> night
[02:06] <david_> routh: I'd suggest asking in the debian channel
[02:06] <cpk2> yogisg: try uisng the kmenus run command... and run kdesu systemsettings
[02:07] <soulrider> whats the hot key to open Konsole ?
[02:07] <cpk2> anyone able to open the adept manager handbook?
[02:08] <cpk2> whenever I try to open it the khelpcenter starts to start up but then nothing happens
[02:08] <yogisg> cannot connect to x-server
[02:08] <dennister> hey pps
[02:08] <LjL> cpk2: edgy, opening it from Adept'
[02:08] <yogisg> it crashed before and i exitet with ctrl+alt+back
[02:09] <LjL> cpk2: edgy, opening it from Adept's Help menu, "There is no documentation available for /adept_manager/index.html."
[02:09] <cpk2> ok i guess there just isnt any doc for it then
[02:09] <dennister> i need some help with getting locate to work; apparently I have no crontab on this new clean installation
[02:10] <cpk2> odd since it seems like there would be with an option like that in the help tab
[02:10] <yogisg> i ll just restart^^ thy anyway
[02:10] <cpk2> yogisg: kdesu systemsettings gives you an error cant connect to xserver?
[02:10] <cpk2> well ok then
[02:11] <dennister> documentation i found says how to access it, and what it does, but I keep getting error messages that these files don't exist
[02:11] <dennister> can anyone help me with the cron scheduler?
[02:11] <cpk2> getting locate to work?
[02:11] <cpk2> you need to updatedb
[02:12] <dennister> yep that's what i need cpk2
[02:12] <cpk2> so sudo updatedb
[02:13] <dennister> did it cpk2, now just waiting
[02:13] <cpk2> it can take some time
[02:13] <cpk2> depending on how big your drive(s) are
[02:13] <dennister> that's fine...they're biiggg :)
[02:13] <dennister> but there's hardly anything on 'em yet
[02:14] <cpk2> also i guess you might want to make updatedb a job if you plan on using locate all the time
[02:14] <dennister> ok...seems like it's done, but i tried to list it, but there's still no crontab for me
[02:14] <cpk2> anything you add to your system after updatedb locate wont find until you updatedb again
[02:15] <cpk2> try sudo slocate crontab
[02:15] <coreymon77> guys
[02:15] <coreymon77> just letting anyone that was here last night know
[02:15] <coreymon77> i have gotten kde 3.5.5 downloaded and working
[02:15] <coreymon77> i dont know how
[02:15] <coreymon77> but it worked
[02:15] <dennister> k...got a list of places where it is, but doesn't every user have to have one of their own?
[02:16] <cpk2> dennister: /usr/bin pretty sure that means anyone can use it
[02:17] <cpk2> you can tab complete crontab
[02:18] <cpk2> dennister: if you read the man it explains how cron figures out how to do its stuff
[02:18] <cpk2> dennister: I am guessing since you havent made any cron jobs yet for any users that is why /var/spool/cron/crontabs is empty
[02:19] <dennister> k...i will read it...was actually ooking for documentation, but with no locate...
[02:19] <dennister> *looking
[02:20] <ubuntu> hello world
[02:20] <suifur> hullo bsacak
[02:20] <suifur> s/bsacak/back
[02:21] <The_Night_Wolf> Hello?
[02:22] <dennister> too bad all te man pages r zipped
[02:22] <ubuntu> anyone out there know how to install kubuntu on something with 64 MB ram?
[02:22] <suifur> ubuntu: i'd do Xubuntu for that
[02:23] <ubuntu> =?
[02:23] <ubuntu> antoher distro?
[02:23] <suifur> Kubuntu isn't gonna run well on 64MB of ram, if at all
[02:23] <The_Night_Wolf> I know how to install it.
[02:23] <flyinghippo> Ubuntu: Yes.
[02:23] <suifur> ubuntu: Xubuntu is a derivative of Ubuntu, like Kubuntu, but it uses xfce window manager instaead of gnome/kde
[02:23] <dennister> and yes cpk2, i haven't made any cron jobs yet...it was an error message in the original installation, but i had quite a few error messages during that installation...mostly about fonts
[02:24] <suifur> http://www.xubuntu.org/
[02:24] <suifur> ubuntu: ^^
[02:24] <ubuntu> oh, i see
[02:24] <ubuntu> but i like KDE!
[02:24] <cpk2> dennister: man cron doesnt work?
[02:24] <suifur> ubuntu: KDE won't run on 64 mb of ram
[02:25] <ubuntu> i managed to run knoppix with it...
[02:25] <suifur> ubuntu: you're pain not mine ;)
[02:25] <ubuntu> and knoppix has KDE!
[02:25] <suifur> as i said, your pain not mine
[02:26] <suifur> you can install it
[02:26] <suifur> but you'd get better performance out of Xubuntu imhjo
[02:26] <ubuntu> thanks for the advice
[02:27] <ubuntu> but i have kubuntu in my hands and would like to see it running on that thing
[02:28] <dennister> cpk2: sorry, yes, it does work
[02:28] <flyinghippo> I have a quick question.  :|
[02:28] <flyinghippo> I am currently downloading the Kubuntu Alternate Installer.
[02:29] <flyinghippo> Would that be able to successfully install onto a 2GB USB Flash Drive?
[02:29] <ubuntu> at this very moment i'm running kubuntu from CD...
[02:29] <flyinghippo> Awesome.  :D
[02:29] <CaBlGuY> wuttup peeps o/
[02:30] <flyinghippo> I could never get a dialup connection configured on Linux.  =\
[02:30] <flyinghippo> I tried it on DSL.
[02:30] <flyinghippo> But that didn't work.
[02:30] <flyinghippo> But I've heard KPPP was very good.
[02:30] <CaBlGuY> anyone else have problems with Firefox freezinup?
[02:30] <suifur> nope
[02:31] <CaBlGuY> swiftfox?
[02:31] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm
[02:31] <CaBlGuY> !swiftfox
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <suifur> CaBlGuY: optimized firefox, the guy optimizes every build of firefox for each cpu arch: http://getswiftfox.com
[02:31] <dennister> hmm
[02:31] <CaBlGuY> Cool.
[02:32] <CaBlGuY> I'll look it up..  also, I need an AVI convereter..  I need to convert some AVI flix to MPG so I can watch em at work.. :p
[02:32] <CaBlGuY> anything I can use?
[02:33] <hazard2> how can I get info on my system's chipset?
[02:34] <CaBlGuY> Ummmm  should be some kinda command for sys info hazard2 however, I don't know it.. :p
[02:35] <hazard2> Wow, you're amazing!
[02:35] <CaBlGuY> suifur:  what version u sue?
[02:35] <CaBlGuY> yes, arn't I.. :)
[02:35] <CaBlGuY> !sys info
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sys info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <suifur> CaBlGuY: just 1.5.0-y
[02:35] <CaBlGuY> hmmmm
[02:35] <suifur> err -7*
[02:36] <CaBlGuY> just curious if u were usin the pre 2.0 or not
[02:36] <suifur> i've used it
[02:36] <suifur> works well
[02:36] <suifur> not as stable
[02:36] <CaBlGuY> stable?
[02:36] <suifur> but it works
[02:36] <CaBlGuY> ahh ok
[02:36] <suifur> i tend to stick with release versions
[02:36] <suifur> i'm not much of a bleeding edge kinda guy ;)
[02:36] <CaBlGuY> cause I been usin 2.5 in winblowz for a while..
[02:36] <suifur> i do a lot of work on my laptop so i dont have the time or patience to deal w/ unstable software
[02:36] <CaBlGuY> I kinda like to try out the beta stuff..  see how it works..
[02:37] <CaBlGuY> I understand
[02:37] <CaBlGuY> U know of any AVI converters I can use in Linux?
[02:37] <suifur> CaBlGuY: if i had my desktop here i'd do it more but th elaptop has to work so i can get work done lol
[02:37] <suifur> CaBlGuY: avi converters...
[02:37] <suifur> hmmm
[02:37] <CaBlGuY> yepper.
[02:37] <hazard2> Cab|Guy: mplayer/mencoder
[02:38] <CaBlGuY> puter at work sux..  so I gotta make sure everything is MPG..
[02:38] <CaBlGuY> :p
[02:38] <suifur> CaBlGuY: try 'Konverter'
[02:38] <CaBlGuY> suifur:  k
[02:39] <shulman> how do I format a usb hard drive to ext3? I want to use it as a backup drive
[02:39] <CaBlGuY> shulman:  thumbdrive?
[02:40] <shulman> CaBIGuY: no, it's a USB hard drive I put together.
[02:41] <suifur> CaBlGuY: kavi2svcd is another
[02:41] <CaBlGuY> Ahh   well, can u see it in your services?   if so, you should be able to just select it andf format form there
[02:41] <CaBlGuY> k suifur thanks.. ;)
[02:41] <suifur> CaBlGuY: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kavi2svcd/
[02:43] <shulman> CaBlGuY: I can see the drive, I formatted it in FAT32 and NTFS on my windows machine to make sure that it worked. they mount automatically and I'd like to destroy the old partitions  and create one large partition on the drive
[02:44] <unix_infidel> hah, suifur which laptop did you end up getting?
[02:44] <suifur> unix_infidel: got a dell e1505
[02:44] <JacksLivr> evening all: when i installed kubuntu, there was a nifty partiion manager that let me resize my HD partitions so i did not have to blow away my XP install. i need to resize a partition on a smartmedia card and qtparted will not let me resize it. is the one kubuntu used a different one that i can try?
[02:44] <suifur> works well w/ kubuntu, everything detected on install
[02:44] <suifur> unix_infidel: wishing i'd gotten a macbook pro instead but the 'rents wouldn't spend the extra 200 on it
[02:45] <unix_infidel> suifur: wishing you had gotten a tablet.
[02:45] <suifur> unix_infidel: i don't like tablets, neat idea, not my thing though
[02:45] <unix_infidel> 16x10 res?
[02:45] <suifur> yup
[02:46] <suifur> Super WXGA+ screen so its like having a real CRT for a monitor
[02:46] <suifur> the monitor itself on this laptop is beautiful lol
[02:46] <unix_infidel> yea.  its a desktop replacement for sure.
[02:46] <suifur> unix_infidel: http://zacbrown.org/temp/kubuntu-6.06.png
[02:46] <unix_infidel> hah, math nerd.
[02:47] <suifur> this laptop is somewhere between ultra-mobile and desktop replacement, its slightly thicker than a macbook pro and about the same weight
[02:47] <unix_infidel> how many pounds?
[02:47] <suifur> 5.5 with smaller bat, bout 5.8 w/ bigger
[02:47] <unix_infidel> honestly, OS X isnt what its cracked up to be.
[02:47] <suifur> i like it
[02:47] <suifur> i have a mac mini too
[02:48] <suifur> i enjoy it, i don't use it like a typical osx user though
[02:48] <suifur> i use it like a bsd user does lol
[02:48] <suifur> my mac mini's all hacked up w/ extra stuff i did to it so it really doesn't act or feel like OSX, as in its got a lot more console showing
[02:48] <unix_infidel> heh, its easy enough to throw a console on a mac, i just dont see what else it really had to offer.
[02:49] <JacksLivr> evening all: when i installed kubuntu, there was a nifty partiion manager that let me resize my HD partitions so i did not have to blow away my XP install. i need to resize a partition on a smartmedia card and qtparted will not let me resize it. is the one kubuntu used a different one that i can try?
[02:49] <unix_infidel> granted, i use macs all the time.
[02:49] <suifur> unix_infidel: i like mac's aesthetic appeal personally and im a fan of aqua lol
[02:50] <CaBlGuY> I just got my thinkpad 760 EL running with winblowz 98 about a week ago.. :p
[02:50] <unix_infidel> suifur: HAH. when i think aesthetics i think a wm and when i think WM / X i think what else is this useful for besides spawning shells.
[02:50] <suifur> unix_infidel: im also a bigger fan to be honest of the bsd ideals... though i like linux too but i think the bsd concept is stronger in terms of stability
[02:50] <suifur> unix_infidel: i'd be using desktopbsd on this laptop if the wireless drivers were better than beta right now
[02:50] <suifur> unix_infidel: well i like my hardware to be pretty too, thats the aesthetics i was talking about ;)
[02:51] <suifur> granted my dell looks nice, but not as nice my g/f's macbook pro lol
[02:51] <unix_infidel> suifur: mini-pci is cheap. get a real mans card, cisco aironet :)
[02:52] <suifur> unix_infidel: lol, well in linux the ipw3945 abg card works beautifully so im content w/ this
[02:52] <unix_infidel> lol, you said you wanted to run BSd :)
[02:53] <suifur> i dont know what this laptop has, its not a full pcmcia slot, its like half that length
[02:53] <suifur> never encountered it b4 this laptop b4
[02:53] <unix_infidel> btw a lot of the BSD devs run thinkpads.
[02:53] <suifur> and i dont know much about laptops in comparison to desktops
[02:53] <suifur> well i got a deal on the dell, hence why i have it :)
[02:54] <unix_infidel> how much?
[02:54] <suifur> the dell would've been 2700 dollars w/ everything i added, but i got 40% on it
[02:54] <suifur> only payed like 1740 about
[02:54] <unix_infidel> sounds about average for the specs.
[02:54] <unix_infidel> its one of the more popular models, really good *nix compatibility.
[02:55] <suifur> yup
[02:55] <suifur> 2ghz Duo, 2 gigs of ram, 100 gig SATA, nice screen, x1400 mobility 256 meg vid, a/b/g wireless, bluetooth
[02:55] <suifur> list goes on
[02:57] <unix_infidel> hah, warranty?
[02:57] <suifur> yah, i think like 2 eyars
[02:57] <suifur> years8
[02:57] <unix_infidel> youll extend it after the first 1.5. guaranteed.
[02:58] <suifur> unix_infidel: nah had 2 dell laptops b4 this and never had problems
[02:58] <suifur> unix_infidel: woulda gotten the IBM cept i'm a fan of widescreen so i didn't find an IBM i really wanted
[02:59] <suifur> out of the laptops my family has owned, we've never had problems w/ dells, lots of probs with hp's/compaq's
[03:00] <unix_infidel> its a matter of numbers really, if you're the #1 vendor of all the ODM distribs in the world.....the rest is obvious.
[03:00] <CaBlGuY> k, im out now, I got swiftfox all installed and seems to run fine..  ttyl suifur   o/
[03:00] <suifur> later CaBlGuY
[03:07] <m4x1mum> is there a good bandwidth limitter? i tried trickle but the bandwidth goes up and down all the time not really working
[03:10] <lguilherme> boa noite estou querendo instalar minha web cam pc cam 550 d creative no kubuntu linux que acabei de instalar
[03:10] <lguilherme> mas nao consigo
[03:10] <lguilherme> alguem pode me ajudar?
[03:11] <LjL> !pt
[03:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:11] <LjL> [03:11]  [Notice]  -flyinghippo- You have added a point, resulting in 309 since 04/29/06!
[03:11] <LjL> ?
[03:11] <lguilherme> obrigado
[03:12] <flyinghippo> Oh.
[03:12] <flyinghippo> That's some stupid script I made a long time ago.
[03:12] <flyinghippo> Heheh.
[03:12] <flyinghippo> I forgot I had it.
[03:12] <LjL> oh :)
[03:12] <LjL> well i'm glad i have 309 points :P
[03:12] <flyinghippo> It's kind of like a ...
[03:12] <flyinghippo> Ticker?
[03:12] <LjL> karma-measurer?
[03:12] <flyinghippo> It was originally "!point" and "!score".
[03:12] <flyinghippo> But someone demanced !pt and !sc.
[03:12] <LjL> ooh i see
[03:12] <flyinghippo> No
[03:12] <flyinghippo> IT's just this thing that adds up.
[03:15] <soulrider> is there a hotkey to open a konsole ?
[03:16] <suifur> soulrider: ummm you can do alt+spacebar then type konsole
[03:16] <soulrider> i know
[03:16] <soulrider> but im using beryl
[03:16] <soulrider> and katapult with its shadow looks kinda glitchy
[03:16] <soulrider> i also got yakuake
[03:16] <LjL> try alt+f2 then
[03:17] <soulrider> but i got a panel on top
[03:17] <soulrider> and it covers my text
[03:18] <logankoester> I just installed kubuntu and I need it configured for my audio and video devices via remote access. $25usd via paypal - anyone interested should pm me. thanks :)
[03:18] <LjL> soulrider: or you can also go to the Keyboard Shortcut applet in the control panel and set a shortcut
[03:18] <soulrider> ahh, thats what i wanted LjL
[03:18] <soulrider> =)
[03:20] <suifur> Anyone else having issues with amaroK forgetting your collections?
[03:21] <morghanphoenix> Only when I had it on an external hdd
[03:22] <soulrider> err, ig toa  starnge problem. I see an icon on my desktop i wanna delete but when it ry to delete it it sais it doesnt exist
[03:22] <soulrider> and go there using the conosle and i see nothing
[03:22] <soulrider> ls has no output
[03:22] <suifur> morghanphoenix: ah, thats what i have
[03:22] <suifur> morghanphoenix: ok, good to know its not just me
[03:23] <morghanphoenix> You got udev rules written?
[03:23] <morghanphoenix> And the 1.4 amarok?
[03:24] <BluesKaj> !edgy
[03:24] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:24] <morghanphoenix> suifur?
[03:24] <suifur> morghanphoenix: err sorry
[03:24] <suifur> morghanphoenix: udev rules?
[03:25] <ubuntu> WOW, people!
[03:25] <ubuntu> Kubuntu is really nice
[03:25] <suifur> morghanphoenix: i've got... amaroK 1.3.9 and no udev rules written...
[03:25] <morghanphoenix> you'll have to get someone else to help you there, but if you have amarok 1.4 with proper udev rules written for the device it should work fine.
[03:25] <morghanphoenix> ah, external libraries started in 1.4
[03:26] <suifur> oh ok
[03:26] <suifur> well i won't worry abou tit
[03:26] <morghanphoenix> even if your device is set up right it won't work unless you upgrade
[03:27] <morghanphoenix> not sure, but source-o-matic and automatix both have it.
[03:27] <suifur> source-o-matic?
[03:27] <morghanphoenix> !source-o-matic
[03:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:27] <suifur> interesting
[03:27] <morghanphoenix> gives you a new sources list for /etcc/apt/sources.list
[03:27] <suifur> been a while since i was on ubuntu lol
[03:28] <morghanphoenix> kubuntu is ubuntu, works just fine here too.
[03:28] <suifur> well yah i mean that in general
[03:29] <morghanphoenix> ARGH! You want a workout? Try running slackware!
[03:30] <xavier> hi .. i installed xgl and compiz on my kubuntu today .. now kde crashes taking kubuntu along with it whenever i login :( i am using fail safe mode right now .. what do i do?
[03:30] <morghanphoenix> I can't get amarok to run because libofa, which I just installed, isn't there.
[03:30] <logankoester> Guess no one is interested - can anyone point me toward a tutorial for configuring X to use the right video driver?
[03:30] <xavier> hi .. i installed xgl and compiz on my kubuntu today .. now kde crashes taking kubuntu along with it whenever i login :( i am using fail safe mode right now .. what do i do?
[03:30] <logankoester> xavier: you already said that
[03:31] <morghanphoenix> yours not listed in the xorg config?
[03:31] <xavier> oops
[03:31] <logankoester> morghanphoenix: who are you talking to?
[03:31] <xavier> my windows do not have any borders .. nor title bars
[03:31] <suifur> morghanphoenix: i used to run slack in the past :). Looks like backports has amarok 1.4 so we'll see where that gets me
[03:31] <morghanphoenix> you
[03:32] <logankoester> morghanphoenix: that's correct. It's using a driver called vesa, I have onboard intel video
[03:32] <morghanphoenix> laptop?
[03:32] <logankoester> yeah
[03:32] <morghanphoenix> ugh
[03:33] <morghanphoenix> not sure how to help you on that one, laptop video configs confuse me
[03:33] <momal> xavier: come into #beryl
[03:43] <jontec_> I want to use remote desktop connection to control my windows computer across the room (yes I'm lazy, but that's not the point) how do I do it? I am one of those home/home office networks
[03:43] <jontec_> I can access the computer from samba
[03:44] <jontec_> but it won't work with the ip address
[03:47] <Martijn81> jontec_: you could install tightvncserver on the other box, and control it with tightvnc from your pc, not sure how long you are able to re-use the set password on the server though
[03:47] <yogisg> hi again
[03:47] <jontec_> gracias. I was hoping it would work innately. :(
[03:48] <yogisg> kde says that my screen resolution problem (cant change it)  has to do somethin with a corrupted update etc. anynone know the package i have to reinstall?
[03:49] <Martijn81> jontec_: might be, i am not saying it doesn't
[03:50] <yogisg> i am reinstalling the kde core i hope it helps
[03:52] <hazard2> Hey, RogueJediX you there?
[03:53] <yogisg> yeehaw working xD
[03:53] <yogisg> i  am using linux fot 2 hours now and i frikkin love it..
[03:55] <suifur> yogisg: good ot hear :)
[03:56] <yogisg> i mean cmon... apt is so superior... im mean oh my god its just unbeliveable
[03:56] <yogisg> wuhuu^
[03:56] <momal> dies*
[03:57] <yogisg> ok error 11 is kinda disturbing but who cares xD
[03:57] <yogisg> windows ll die when vista is out
[03:57] <yogisg> i hope..
[03:57] <suifur> momal: well look no further than Vista, with all the crap flying about over the DRM Kernel and what not its only a matter of time...
[03:57] <yogisg> the last thin i need is a mac skin... :\   oh and cedega for miranda ^^
[03:57] <momal> hehe... all of vista effects are copyed from everything else... get somthing new >_<
[03:58] <yogisg> to bad theres no linux build
[03:58] <yogisg> yeah especially mac (i mean hello the "bubble" logo??)
[03:58] <suifur> yogisg: look hard enough on kde-look.org and you'll find enough stuff to make your kde desktop look like a mac;)
[03:58] <yogisg> Yay :D
[03:59] <yogisg> *dancin* ^ ^       and the community is just great
[03:59] <yogisg> its five o clock in the mornin and im just to happy to sleep
[04:02] <yogisg> who was the command for searching with apt?
[04:02] <yogisg> how
[04:02] <suifur> apt-cache search <string>
[04:03] <yogisg> ahhh cache! darn
[04:03] <yogisg> anything else   apt-"thing" ?
[04:03] <suifur> apt-cache             apt-extracttemplates  apt-key
[04:03] <suifur> apt-cdrom             apt-ftparchive        apt-sortpkgs
[04:03] <suifur> apt-config            apt-get
[04:03] <suifur> there you go
[04:04] <suifur> most won't be useful to the normal user though
[04:04] <yogisg> :D  dont care i need knowledge :)
[04:04] <yogisg> thx ^
[04:06] <yogisg> ok but now its gettin tooo late imgoin to sleep bye ^^
[04:10] <Pinguinito> hi, ive a problem with qemu, ive tried qemu channel but everybody is ZZzzZzzzZ or just away
[04:11] <Pinguinito> somebody :D?
[04:11] <shadowhywind> its mostly quiet in here too,
[04:11] <Pinguinito> yup
[04:12] <hazard2> ARRGGGHHHHH!!! (death)
[04:13] <Pinguinito> well my prob is that the emulation is very poor, i mean, im sharing 400MB of RAM, ive a 3000+ and qemu looks like im running a P1 with 16MB
[04:14] <danny500> I need help, useing Quake 2
[04:14] <danny500> can any one help?
[04:14] <hazard2> where did Quake 2?! I remember quake 2!
[04:14] <hazard2> I always liked map SPACE
[04:14] <danny500> yeah it's a good map but I can't figure out how to use it on linux
[04:15] <danny500> I have the win32 cd rom version
[04:15] <hazard__> what can't you use? (this is the same hazard)
[04:15] <hazard__> is there a q2 binary thing?
[04:15] <danny500> I don't know
[04:15] <hazard__> (because I know you can get the full version of win32 Q2 using the w32 demo and the mac version's game files)
[04:16] <hazard__> How are you trying to run it....?
[04:16] <coreymon77> !seen ceros
[04:16] <ubotu> I last saw ceros (n=user@c-68-49-247-245.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 9h 39m 58s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[04:16] <danny500> I was using wine
[04:16] <hazard__> I don't know how to use wine, sorry, I can't help you.
[04:16] <danny500> but that don't work
[04:17] <momal> I think there is a q2 linux binarary somewhere you just copy the pak files over to.. there is one for q3 as well... try googling
[04:17] <momal> !quake2
[04:17] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[04:17] <momal> :D
[04:17] <momal> <3 that bot
[04:17] <hazard2> cool
[04:17] <danny500> I keep finding linux patchs that enable you to play it on linux but I can't figure out how to do it
[04:18] <danny500> oh well I'll eventually find out, it's just that I want to play online with it so bad
[04:18] <danny500> know what I mean lol
[04:18] <danny500> well cya later
[04:18] <Pinguinito> Cedega?
[04:18] <Pinguinito> well hes gone
[04:19] <Pinguinito> im still having my qemu prob :D
[04:19] <logankoester> So can anyone explain what I need to do to get X using the proper drivers for my onboard intel card? I don't think there's anything more frustrating than an 800x600 display
[04:20] <unix_infidel> Pinguinito: any specific reason why you're using qemu?
[04:20] <unix_infidel> i find vmware much faster.
[04:21] <Pinguinito> im triying to install different OS
[04:21] <unix_infidel> Pinguinito: you can do that with vmware.
[04:21] <coreymon77> me too
[04:21] <intelikey> !X
[04:21] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:22] <momal> yea vmware is good :D.. you can use it for free legally as well :)
[04:22] <Pinguinito> vmware is free?
[04:22] <Hawkwind> Pinguinito: Yes
[04:22] <Pinguinito> ah
[04:22] <Hawkwind> Pinguinito: sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[04:22] <Pinguinito> lets see
[04:22] <warren> the player is free - the server isn't
[04:22] <coreymon77> well depends
[04:22] <unix_infidel> server is free as well.
[04:22] <coreymon77> actually
[04:22] <coreymon77> yes it
[04:22] <coreymon77> is
[04:22] <Hawkwind> warren: Server is free too
[04:22] <unix_infidel> or rather, license to the server is free.
[04:23] <Pinguinito> can i run my qemu images on vmware?
[04:23] <warren> wow - how are they making money then?
[04:23] <coreymon77> you download the trial of vmware workstation, create yout vm, and then use it with the free vmware player
[04:23] <unix_infidel> warren: the market situation in virtualization is rather complex right now.
[04:23] <Hawkwind> No need for all that though really
[04:23] <Pinguinito> its apt-getting :P
[04:24] <thul_> I have a question, I have installed freebsd.. and have the kubuntu cd. Is it possible to copy parts of the kubuntu cd over to another partition, add it too the boot-mgr and just boot?
[04:24] <unix_infidel> warren: VMware server is actually a successor to GSX Server.
[04:24] <momal> you can use the vmserver to create vm's to use in vmplayer so :)
[04:25] <unix_infidel> just make sure you have adequate memory :)
[04:25] <linuxkid2> I can't use smb by putting in the computer name, I have to use IP address. I have DNS, might that be a factor?
[04:25] <warren> used vmware on windows at work at while a go - cost a fortune - suprised its free - but I suppose giving stuff away worked for m$
[04:25] <linuxkid2> Doesn't effect the Windows computers
[04:26] <unix_infidel> warren: MSDN is a totally different concept.
[04:26] <thul_> hmm
[04:26] <thul_> i guess not:P
[04:26] <Pinguinito> forgive me if im asking something that is answered everywhere but what are the main differences between vmware and qemu?
[04:26] <axel> !nexuiz
[04:26] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[04:26] <warren> fair enough (goes quiet)
[04:26] <flaccid> linuxkid2: NetBT
[04:27] <linuxkid2> flaccid: what's that?
[04:27] <flaccid> netbios
[04:27] <thul_> any tips?
[04:28] <linuxkid2> flaccid: I know that netbios is the Windows protocol, but I think maybe Linux is searching for NetBT names in DNS, where there not.
[04:28] <flaccid> enable netbios
[04:28] <Pinguinito> !vmware
[04:28] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[04:28] <linuxkid2> flaccid: enable?
[04:28] <flaccid> dns proxy = no
[04:28] <flaccid> join #samba and learn from samba.org
[04:28] <linuxkid2> flaccid: where? How?
[04:28] <linuxkid2> I might do that for my Debian server, but not my Kubuntu client.
[04:29] <mando> hello everyone
[04:29] <flaccid> linuxkid2: you have no internal dns server do you
[04:29] <linuxkid2> flaccid: I do. It's that Debian server.
[04:29] <flaccid> linuxkid2: well if your dns is set properly you don't need netbios or wins
[04:30] <mando> ok if anyone remembers i was asking about the buffer i/o bad block errors i get
[04:30] <thul_> I have the "kubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper Drake" cd
[04:30] <mando> hdd regenerator fixed a couple of bad sectors and that solved it
[04:30] <thul_> i just want to be able to boot it on my external, is it possible to just copy stuff from the cd directly onto the external from inside freebsd?
[04:30] <linuxkid2> flaccid: it's just dnsmasq, not bind. I didn't want to bother with the big boy.
[04:30] <flaccid> ok
[04:30] <mando> but kubuntu takes alot of time loading though.. specially at the checking file system phaze
[04:30] <mando> i have a 60 smth GB fat32 drive
[04:31] <mando> is it normal for the check at startup to take that much time?
[04:31] <mando> like 1 minute
[04:31] <Pinguinito> well vmware is installed
[04:31] <linuxkid2> flaccid ?
[04:31] <Rapidwolve> Is it possible to install gnome on kubuntu
[04:31] <flaccid> linuxkid2: what do you want?
[04:31] <Hawkwind> Rapidwolve: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <axel> i prefer gnome
[04:32] <Pinguinito> some tip of how to run my imgs?
[04:32] <linuxkid2> flaccid: oh, I just don't know how to get kubuntu to forget about DNS for the NetBT names.
[04:32] <Rapidwolve> Hawkwind: Type that into Konsole
[04:32] <Rapidwolve> ?
[04:32] <thul_> hmm
[04:32] <thul_> i guess not:P
[04:32] <Hawkwind> Rapidwolve: Yes
[04:32] <flaccid> linuxkid2: forget about dns for the NetBT. i don't understand
[04:33] <linuxkid2> flaccid: or should all the NetBT names match the DNS names? they don't.
[04:33] <Rapidwolve> Hawkwind: Thank you
[04:33] <Rapidwolve> Hawkwind: What is it supposed to say?
[04:33] <flaccid> linuxkid2: you need name resolution of some sort. whether its wins, netbios or dns, it doesnt matter (as long as its configured correctly)
[04:33] <Rapidwolve> All it asks for is my password then nothing happens
[04:34] <linuxkid2> flaccid: what's correctly?
[04:34] <Hawkwind> Rapidwolve: It'll install everything for you
[04:34] <mando> where can i download software?
[04:34] <Hawkwind> mando: Use sudo apt-get install <package> from a terminal
[04:34] <flaccid> as in the configuration is correct. if its not, it won't work.
[04:34] <Rapidwolve> Hawkwind nothing happened?
[04:34] <Rapidwolve> x.x
[04:34] <Rapidwolve> its not working
[04:34] <mando> no i mean how can i find packages. i want to download gimp and mozilla for example
[04:34] <momal> mando: or use adept if you want a gui
[04:34] <Rapidwolve> it asks for a password and thats it
[04:34] <Hawkwind> Rapidwolve: It helps if you paste the errors to http://pastebin.ulteo.us and give us the resulting URL
[04:34] <flaccid> linuxkid2: you need to cite something specific, otherwise i can't help
[04:35] <Rapidwolve> Its not an error, Hawkwind
[04:35] <Hawkwind> Rapidwolve: Not with sudo it shouldn't
[04:35] <Rapidwolve> Hawkwind, Nothing happens
[04:35] <Hawkwind> Rapidwolve: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <martalli_> You can use aptitude from the command line if you wqant an interface like synaptic, adept, etc.
[04:35] <Hawkwind> Rapidwolve: That should not ask for a password
[04:35] <linuxkid2> flaccid: I get that, but what does correctly mean? I have a computer that is called family-desktop.local in DNS, and GFAM in NetBT and I can't connect to it.
[04:35] <momal> Hawkwind: if he has a root pw set it will :p
[04:35] <Rapidwolve> Hawkwind: I copied and pasted
[04:35] <Hawkwind> momal: No it won't
[04:35] <mando> ok thanks
[04:36] <flaccid> linuxkid2: yes. why can't you connnect to it. i can't read minds..
[04:36] <Hawkwind> momal: I have a root account enabled and sudo does not ask for a password on Ubuntu, Kubuntu
[04:36] <linuxkid2> flaccid: sorry I wasn't specific enough. So the DNS and Windows names have to match?
[04:36] <Hawkwind> Rapidwolve: So try entering your users password ?
[04:36] <momal> Hawkwind: ,... if I type sudo anywhere it asks me for my root password ?
[04:36] <Rapidwolve> Hawkwind: Yes
[04:36] <Rapidwolve> Hawkwind: No password also works
[04:36] <Hawkwind> momal: Heh, sorry.  I was thinking of something different
[04:36] <Rapidwolve> ohhh nvermind
[04:36] <Rapidwolve> you were right i had to enter my password
[04:36] <Rapidwolve> lol sorry and thanks
[04:37] <flaccid> linuxkid2: i would recommend it. they don't have to. but then you need to rely on netbios or wins for the ones that don't and you probably don't want that.
[04:37] <linuxkid2> flaccid: okay, thanks.
[04:37] <martalli_> momal - it will ask for your password the first time, but then you have a few minutes to keep going weithout getting asked for a password when you sudo
[04:37] <Hawkwind> momal: I forgot I have sudo set to never ask for a password since this is a single user box
[04:37] <flaccid> linuxkid2: if you can show error output from using smbclient . i can help from there.
[04:37] <Pinguinito> !
[04:38] <momal> Hawkwind: hehe.. martalli_: yea but first time it didn't do anything for him... which I think the pw didn't go in :p
[04:38] <Pinguinito> hey
[04:38] <linuxkid2> flaccid: Segmentation fault
[04:38] <intelikey> Hawkwind root jr. with no passwd ???     why not just login as root and make it harder on the hackers  sheeez
[04:38] <momal> Microsoft Access is sooo crap... why do they make us do this crap at school
[04:38] <flaccid> linuxkid2: thats not good. can you ping the host??
[04:38] <Pinguinito> i installed vmware, now what's next ?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> intelikey: It's a single user system that is not accessible to the outside at all
[04:38] <martalli_> If you have a sudo account and then create a second account, it won't let you sudo form the second account (unless you've been fiddling).  Maybe this is the guys problem
[04:39] <flaccid> momal: because it is m$
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Pinguinito: Run it
[04:39] <momal> intelikey: HAHAHAHA... I think he would have it safened up :p
[04:39] <linuxkid2> flaccid: yes. it's right next room.
[04:39] <dude> guys, can u suggest an ftp program for kubuntu
[04:39] <unix_infidel> momal: so what?
[04:39] <Hawkwind> intelikey: This box is totally within the network, and there is no ssh, ftp or anything like that running to get into it from the outside :)
[04:39] <unix_infidel> you know you can interoperate b/w mysql and access right?
[04:39] <coreymon77> guys
[04:39] <suifur> dude: if you're comfortable with command  line, then ncftp
[04:39] <Pinguinito> Hawkwind: need to do somthing special?
[04:39] <flaccid> linuxkid2: smbclient -NL //hostname and also smbclient -NL //ipaddress <--- do they both return seg fault ?
[04:39] <linuxkid2> dude: konqueror's allright.
[04:39] <momal> flaccid: typical my teacher yesterday was like damn school I have been teaching this crap for 4 years and its boring as hell.
[04:39] <coreymon77> i hquick question about the new firefox
[04:39] <Pinguinito> i get bash: vmware: orden no encontrada
[04:40] <Hawkwind> !vmware
[04:40] <momal> unix_infidel: eh?
[04:40] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[04:40] <Hawkwind> Pinguinito: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[04:40] <Pinguinito> that means "command not found"
[04:40] <flaccid> momal: access has no place in IT anymore. fullstop.
[04:40] <flaccid> brb
[04:40] <martalli_> linuxkid2 - the newer versions of konquerer are great
[04:40] <unix_infidel> momal: you were complaining about MS Access
[04:40] <momal> flaccid: yea... i know so why the hell they still teach it >_<
[04:40] <martalli_> after running automatix, konq shows videos from cnn and other little bits
[04:40] <unix_infidel> most OSS DMBS offer interoperability with MS Access
[04:41] <unix_infidel> or rather, "claim"
[04:41] <mando> ok it says mozilla is installed already
[04:41] <mando> how do i run it
[04:41] <momal> mando: look in your K menu under internet
[04:41] <momal> should be there
[04:42] <mando> not there
[04:42] <mando> only konquerer
[04:42] <linuxkid2> flaccid: yes on hostname, some weirder stuff on ip address. It says the called name is not present.
[04:42] <Lam_> how do i stop kubuntu from saving the last username on startup?
[04:42] <martalli_> then look in usr/sbin
[04:42] <mando> whats an executable file for linux?
[04:42] <dude> guys how about terminal client for kubuntu
[04:42] <Kyral> Konsole
[04:42] <martalli_> look in /usr/sbin for mozilla
[04:42] <Pinguinito> Hawkwind: i downloaded it via apt-get, ive read the web but it doesnt explain anithing to me
[04:43] <Hawkwind> Pinguinito: In a terminal type:  vmwa(hit the tab key)
[04:43] <momal> mando: K menu> run command> put in mozilla and if it runs.. it works.. probly just kde hasn't updated to show in the menu
[04:43] <Hawkwind> Pinguinito: Run it, follow the screen
[04:43] <linuxkid2> mando: there's no specific extension. shell scripts are .sh, but their text-based.
[04:43] <Pinguinito> vmware-config-network.pl  vmware-ping
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> Lam_: run kcontrol, go to system administration -> login manager
[04:43] <linuxkid2> mando, but shell scripts don't have to be .sh . most executables have no extension.
[04:44] <martalli_> mando - if it has the executable attribute marked, linux will try to run it
[04:44] <mando> ok thanks
[04:44] <LeeJunFan> Lam_: or run system administration from kmenu->advanced->login manager
[04:44] <martalli_> but if the file is not in the executable path (even if it is in the active directory) you have to specify the path, eg. "./myscript.sh"
[04:45] <Pinguinito> Hawkwind: im running a 64bit version uf kubutu
[04:45] <neoncode> How do I set a single command to run on logon of just my account?
[04:45] <dennister> hi pps
[04:45] <Pinguinito> maybe....
[04:45] <martalli_> Is the 64 bit version truly faster than the 32 bit version?
[04:45] <dennister> hey hawkwind, how r ya?
[04:45] <LeeJunFan> neoncode: you can put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:45] <linuxkid2> neoncode: rc.local or ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:46] <momal> neoncode: /home/username/.kde/Autostart/ any file in there with +x permissions can
[04:46] <linuxkid2> LeeJunFan: beat me to the punch
[04:46] <momal> lol
[04:46] <Lam_> LeeJunFan: thanks
[04:46] <neoncode> Right, Thank you.
[04:47] <dennister> is anyone else having trouble with the plf repositories?
[04:47] <Pinguinito> martalli_: its not big deal, i dont "feel" a big difference i find them very similar
[04:47] <LeeJunFan> linuxkid2: well I am Lee Jun Fan :p  -- Bruce Lee
[04:47] <linuxkid2> lol
[04:47] <mando> when i search for gimp it cant be found
[04:47] <mando> how is that
[04:47] <LeeJunFan> !info gimp
[04:47] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2712 kB, installed size 7648 kB
[04:47] <mando> doesnt it like search online or something?
[04:48] <mando> i mean adept
[04:48] <LeeJunFan> mando: when you installed did you have networking working during install?
[04:48] <linuxkid2> mando: searching with Adept? Aptitude?
[04:48] <mando> no i dont believe i had it working
[04:48] <LeeJunFan> mando: your sources are probably not configured correctly.
[04:48] <LeeJunFan> !easysource
[04:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:48] <linuxkid2> mando: adept just searches the local cache, you have to update that first.
[04:48] <dennister> guess not...can someone help me fix these repositories pls? (I've never had probs with them br; can't understand it)
[04:49] <mando> thank you!
[04:50] <dennister> LeeJunFan: r u free at the moment...I've seen u helping so many people u seem to really know what ur doing
[04:50] <linuxkid2> anybody else here use the fish:// kioslave? it's pretty cool.
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> dennister: I did stay at a holliday in express last night. :p
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> dennister: what you need?
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> inn
[04:51] <flaccid> linuxkid2: outside scope of this channel. join #samba. most likely the server's samba config that is the problem.
[04:51] <dennister> heheheh...i have a clean install here, and can't seem to get the plf repositories configured properly
[04:51] <linuxkid2> flaccid: ok. I can't get that thing to do a no-password printer either. thanks for the channel.
[04:52] <LeeJunFan> dennister: afraid I've never used them myself. But you can pastebin your sources and I'll take a look.
[04:52] <Pinguinito> ok it was vmplayer
[04:52] <dennister> !pastebin
[04:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:52] <flaccid> linuxkid2: np. i recommend learning samba properly so then you know what your config is actually doing. samba is a hugely configurable server that can use a lot of protocols.
[04:53] <linuxkid2> flaccid: I tried swat on the server, but it doesn't work for some reason. It just times out.
[04:53] <linuxkid2> used to work
[04:53] <flaccid> sounds like you have issue
[04:53] <dude> what is the best radio streaming player in kubuntu
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> linuxkid2: you don't have any firewall blocking swat's port do you?
[04:54] <linuxkid2> LeeJunFan: that's probably it.
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> 901 or 902 or some such thing.
[04:54] <linuxkid2> 901
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> 901
[04:54] <linuxkid2> guarddog
[04:54] <dennister> LeeJunFan: ok, it's at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26828/
[04:55] <flaccid> linuxkid2: if thats the case you want wanna check that your samba server isn't blocking any samba ports
[04:55] <dennister> hi flaccid :)
[04:56] <mando> ok i got the new source.list
[04:56] <mando> how do i use it?
[04:56] <linuxkid2> flaccid: iptables isn't running on that.
[04:57] <flaccid> linuxkid2: i'll help you in #samba if you want
[04:57] <linuxkid2> mando: put it in /etc/apt/ and run apt-get update
[04:57] <linuxkid2> flaccid: k
[04:57] <mando> ok thanks
[04:57] <LeeJunFan> dennister: where did you get that source from? the easysource says plf is : deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free
[04:58] <dennister> i did a google search for it...this is a mirror site
[04:59] <LeeJunFan> dennister: try removing the pool from your sources
[04:59] <mando> cannot write to file :S
[04:59] <LeeJunFan> ie, just deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf breezy free non-free
[04:59] <LeeJunFan> and from the other lines as well.
[05:00] <dennister> i didn't have the word pool at first...but I had errors then, 2, added the pool as per the directories on the site
[05:00] <mando> ok took care of it :D
[05:00] <mando> cool working :D fetching updates
[05:01] <LeeJunFan> dennister: The dist tree includes pool your source will expect to find pool, dists, project inside it. So if you use pool as the top level dir for the repos it's not going to find the rest of the stuff.
[05:03] <andresmujica> hi! i've upgraded to kde 3.5.5 but it broke kicker.. it`s not starting anymore...
[05:03] <dennister> ok...trying to get into ur link...hold on
[05:05] <dennister> i can't get into ur link...tried doing peelbacks and all the ubuntu directory has is a readme page
[05:06] <mando> !wifi
[05:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:07] <LeeJunFan> dennister: what kind of error do you get when you run apt-get update?
[05:08] <coreymon77> guys
[05:08] <coreymon77> i have a question about the new firefox
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> dennister: a lot of 3rd party repos put index pages in the dirs so you can't see the file tree, instead you get a page. Personally I find that annoying, but owell.
[05:08] <dennister> "Failed to fetch"...404 Not Found
[05:09] <dennister> yes, even though my sources.list page does not have the word 'dists' in the path, apt-get and synaptic stick it in there
[05:09] <coreymon77> in dapper
[05:10] <dennister> i guess i need another site/source for the plf repositories
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> dennister: yeah, that's normal - that's giving you the entire path.
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> dennister: yeah, I just tried with the link easysource gave - the Packages files are not found.
[05:11] <dennister> unfortuantely, they move around fairly often, sites stop providing these packages is what I've found
[05:11] <dennister> or found over the last 6 weeks, anyway
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> This project is now in dormant state, as the plf/ubuntu team resigned due
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> to lack of time. If you want more detail or want to help, please contact
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> misc, either on irc ( #plf@irc.freenode.net ), or send a email on
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> misc at zarb.org .
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> crap sry.
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> dennister: that's in a README file from the plf repos - apparently there isn't a plf (at least for ubuntu) any more.
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> !plf
[05:13] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[05:17] <andresmujica> hi! i've upgraded to kde 3.5.5 but it broke kicker.. it`s not starting anymore...
[05:18] <LeeJunFan> andresmujica: rm ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and try again.
[05:19] <dennister> LeeJunFan: that link from ubotu is the one i used to get to the first mirror...i even used the public key from that page
[05:19] <LeeJunFan> andresmujica: if that doesn't work then rm -rf ~/.kde/share/apps/kicker/
[05:20] <momal> andresmujica: if still no luck try run kicker via console and look at its output
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> dennister: plf for ubuntu is gone. So you aren't going to be able to get it working, they gave up.
[05:21] <intelikey> what is the latest windows release  (don't rant)   ?
[05:21] <LeeJunFan> XP
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> vista will be soon.
[05:22] <intelikey> k ty
[05:22] <sonsay> hi
[05:22] <sonsay> :ciao:
[05:23] <dennister> actually, they released other variants of xp that I have: 64-bit Edition and Media Center Edition
[05:23] <dennister> both are crap
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Amazing how Apple is able to have 1 version of OS-X.. or is there an actual server version?
[05:23] <dennister> even xp is crap...we've had it for almost 3 yrs
[05:24] <momal> win 3.11 was the bet :p
[05:24] <momal> best*
[05:24] <coreymon77> is there a repo with firefox rc2 yet?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> GEOS
[05:24] <LeeJunFan> Uninstalled sitting in the trash can is the best version of windows.
[05:25] <dennister> LeeJunFan: k, i edited 'pool' out of sources.list, now I only get one error, so I'll take that line right out
[05:25] <LeeJunFan> dennister: doesn't matter. There is no more plf for ubuntu.
[05:25] <LeeJunFan> dennister: they gave up, resigned, quit. Stopped even :)
[05:26] <intelikey> no blah ?
[05:26] <mando> hey
[05:26] <mando> quick question
[05:26] <mando> how to install xgl?
[05:26] <mando> !XGL
[05:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:26] <intelikey> hey quick answer :)
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> Now that's a new height of psychotic. Talking to yourself in IRC.
[05:27] <mando> cool :D
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> The voices in my head commune with me via the internet!
[05:27] <momal> mando: ... are you wanting to run compiz from xgl ?..
[05:28] <satempler> is mtp support built in to Amarok in Kubuntu ?
[05:28] <satempler> or was it built without
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> !beryl
[05:28] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[05:29] <satempler> because i know ./configure can configure it without
[05:29] <mando> i dont really know
[05:30] <momal> LeeJunFan: lol? you were thinking what i was about compiz
[05:30] <mando> i want to have those cool windows effects.. like the transparency.. etc.
[05:30] <momal> lol... mando come into #beryl
[05:30] <satempler> is there a dcop comand  or somthing to find out what it was built with
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> yeah, compiz is defunct for the most part.
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> beryl is what you want.
[05:32] <dennister> well, I've got one line left for the plf...and still the error
[05:33] <dennister> is it possible the problem could be caused by the key?
[05:33] <VanessaE> good evening all
[05:33] <dennister> hi VanessaE
[05:34] <LeeJunFan> dennister: read my last 4-5 messages to you. THERE IS NO MORE UBUNTU PLF. :)
[05:34] <VanessaE> got a really weird issue that I'm not even sure is *ubuntu specific.
[05:34] <dennister> oh shoot
[05:34] <dennister> k
[05:34] <satempler> there isn't
[05:34] <satempler> a Ubuntu PLF
[05:34] <Hawkwind> http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> dennister: nope, there's a readme now that says they resigned.
[05:35] <satempler> I just used the edgy one today
[05:35] <mando> i cant believe gimp is as good as photoshop.. it says its only 7 mb!
[05:35] <Hawkwind> There is actually.  It's still for Dapper.  Just not maintained anymore
[05:35] <VanessaE> I'm creating a local repos. for our two machines here to try to save the Ubuntu servers some bandwidth.  For my machine using Dapper, the repository works perfectly. For my husband's which runs Edgy, it steadfastly refuses to use my repos. at all.  I'm 100% certain my configuration is identical on both machines.
[05:35] <logankoester> gimp is good, but it's not photoshop
[05:35] <Hawkwind> There is for Edgy too it seems
[05:35] <mando> hmm
[05:35] <Hawkwind> LeeJunFan: That's not true
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> Hawkwind: the mirrors I tried were empty and just had README files saying they were not doing it any more.
[05:35] <dennister> i don't understand...the packages were working..
[05:35] <VanessaE> Is there something about Edgy that explicitly tells it to ignore my local repos?
[05:36] <Hawkwind> LeeJunFan: They asked a couple months back for people to help out and take it over, and people did
[05:36] <dennister> so where r the packages?
[05:37] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: how did you create your repos?
[05:37] <dennister> i mean, I was certainly able to download the w32codecs and libdvd...earlier today
[05:37] <satempler> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/
[05:37] <VanessaE> (note there are two differences I can spot - there's an 01ubuntu config file on the edgy box but not mine, and mine has an apt.conf while the edgy does not)
[05:37] <satempler> looks like they are there
[05:37] <VanessaE> Lee: using this howto:  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto#trivial-example
[05:38] <dennister> I just can't get the proper repos into synaptic...yes, that's the same place I downloaded the single packages from
[05:38] <satempler> and again http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/
[05:38] <dennister> but there are others...my real problem is actually getting the java going properly
[05:39] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: so you've just got your own packages then, not a full mirror?
[05:39] <VanessaE> !pastebin
[05:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:39] <VanessaE> Lee: partial mirror, just the packages our machines use.  I'm doing this for backup purposes mostly.
[05:40] <dude> what is the best radio streaming player in kubuntu
[05:40] <mando> !takahashi
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about takahashi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <dennister> I've installed three of them by themselves, but because i did them from individual packages, and not synaptic, they're in different directories, so I can't get this howto to work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[05:40] <satempler> dude: try amarok
[05:40] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: there's nothing in edgy that would cause it to ignore your local repos. I'm using local repos for edgy on 3 machines here, I've got i386 mirrored with debmirror
[05:41] <dude> satempler: no sound
[05:41] <VanessaE> Lee, maybe these details will make sense to you:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26831/
[05:43] <VanessaE> the edgy repos will be especially useful once edgy is stable, then I can upgrade just using packages my husband's box has already fetched.
[05:43] <VanessaE> (at which point, I guess I can retire the dapper repos. :) )
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: does apt-get update give you any error message on edgy?
[05:45] <VanessaE> the only thing close to an error msg I get is "Ign:  ./ Packages"  but I see that on *both* boxes.
[05:46] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: yeah, that just means that since it checked last time there've been no changes.
[05:46] <VanessaE> i.e. it doesn't spit out the usual "some files couldn't be fetched" message I would expect to get
[05:46] <VanessaE> Ohhhhhh k
[05:46] <VanessaE> oik
[05:46] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: I wonder if the contents of your Packages files are being populated correctly?
[05:48] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: you should be able to cd to the /data/Software/Edgy and run dpkg-scanpackages ./ /dev/null | less and see what it's generating as the content for Packages
[05:48] <VanessaE> that's a good question - both files look ok to me but then again I'm not sure what to look for that would imply a break
[05:48] <VanessaE> (I've viewed them with less)
[05:48] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: and the edgy one has data? ie. not blank?
[05:48] <VanessaE> yep
[05:49] <VanessaE> it looks about the same as the one for the dapper repos.
[05:49] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: and how have you determined that it's not working?
[05:49] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: how did you come to that conclusion?
[05:49] <VanessaE> I checked first that /var/cache/apt/archives is empty on both machines
[05:50] <andresmujica> hi about kicker and kde 3.5.5 issue i've just made a bug report, thanks for the suggestions they didn't worked... and a quick search for the forums lead to nowhere.. so  here is the bug report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/66198
[05:50] <VanessaE> then I apt-get remove a package like xine-ui, something I know is in the local repos.
[05:50] <VanessaE> then I immediately apt-get install it
[05:50] <VanessaE> the dapper box fetches it from the local repos.  The edgy box goes to an ubuntu server to fetch it.
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: ah, well. Perhaps there have been changes between dapper apt-get and edgy, or - where in the sources.list file is the line for the local repos? I think it should be at the top to be checked first.
[05:51] <VanessaE> I've made absolutely sure the package in the edgy repos. is the exact package that's been downloaded from the ubuntu server (copied it over to the local repos and re-ran the update-repository-edgy script)
[05:51] <hazard2> How can I restart the mouse server?
[05:51] <VanessaE> the deb line is at the very top of the file on both boxes.
[05:51] <hazard2> My mouse is...gone?
[05:53] <VanessaE> hazard: in the text console?
[05:53] <VanessaE> or in X?
[05:53] <hazard2> in X
[05:53] <hazard2> the mouse has vanished
[05:53] <VanessaE> eh..restart X :)
[05:53] <hazard2> Oh....darn...
[05:53] <VanessaE> unless you run your mouse through gpm
[05:53] <hazard2> I have no idea.
[05:54] <intelikey> if you have no idea what gpm is then you aren't using it.
[05:54] <hazard2> no, I don't know if I'm using it.
[05:55] <intelikey> you're not.
[05:55] <hazard2> I'm using whatever kubuntu installed
[05:55] <dude> can i configure my eddesktop?
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: I'm at a loss with the repository thing.
[05:56] <VanessaE> Lee: told you it was weird :)
[05:59] <intelikey> VanessaE apt will get from the repo that reports to have the "newest" version of *    could that have anything to do with it ?
[05:59] <Manyfold> how can i allow applications to change the bpp of the display?
[06:00] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: try apt-cache showpkg [package]  for one in your local repos.
[06:00] <VanessaE> intelikey, that was my first thought
[06:00] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: that should show you the paths to the packages it's aware of.
[06:00] <VanessaE> one sec.
[06:01] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: you may want to pipe that to grep "File:"
[06:01] <intelikey> i.e. package kde-core may appear in  "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu"  "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu"  "local"   the one in updates will be the one it gets.
[06:01] <VanessaE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26835/
[06:02] <VanessaE> there ya go - it looks like it IS referencing my local repos.  but this is an example of a program which I explicltly allowed it to download, then I ran that update script and tried the test again, just to rule out the file-is-newer possibility
[06:02] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: well, it sees it fine.
[06:03] <dude> how do i  create shorcut keys for an specific application?
[06:04] <intelikey> khotkeys ?
[06:05] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: I have no idea why it would choose to install from the internet over your local file, maybe on the edgy machine you should try putting your local repos line at the bottom of sources.list just to see if apt's behavior has changed.?
[06:05] <VanessaE> good idea.
[06:05] <VanessaE> sec.
[06:07] <VanessaE> AH HAH!
[06:07] <VanessaE> that did it
[06:08] <VanessaE> wait...
[06:08] <intelikey> VanessaE i think that order in the sources.list used to come into play when versions were the same....  (i have dialup and used to hate it when it wanted to dl things that were on the cd.)
[06:09] <dude> intelikey: yes
[06:10] <LeeJunFan> although man sources.list says: It is important to list sources in order of preference, with the most preferred source listed first.
[06:11] <RadiantFire> it does?
[06:11] <RadiantFire> never knew that
[06:11] <RadiantFire> you should have the same package in more than one repository though
[06:11] <dude> what is the update manager in kuuntu
[06:11] <dude> what is the update manager in kubuntu
[06:11] <RadiantFire> adept_updater
[06:12] <dude> intelikey: yes
[06:12] <VanessaE> nope, putting that line at the end of sources.list did *not* work
[06:12] <naegling23> does anyone know the keyboard shortcut to increase/decrease font size?
[06:13] <andresmujica> ctrl + +
[06:13] <andresmujica> ?
[06:13] <VanessaE> (it pulled from the copy stored in /var/cache/apt/archives...  Which I then moved to my repos, ran the update script again, and tried the test again)
[06:13] <dude> radiant: how do i create hotkeys for an specific application
[06:14] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: you may have found a bug in apt for edgy. It certainly seems like it. Everything looks in order.
[06:14] <VanessaE> Dude: I use KDE's input actions bit.
[06:14] <dude> vanessa: where can i find that?, sorry newbie
[06:15] <VanessaE> Run the KDE control center, go to Regional and Accessibility -> Input actions -> New Action and set the "Action Type field" to "Keyboard Shortcut  Command/URL"
[06:16] <dude> vanessa: tnx
[06:16] <intelikey> dude or in a terminal tupe khotkeys     although i'm not sure that's the app you want...   i don't have kde installed.
[06:17] <VanessaE> you should be able to figure out the rest from there.
[06:17] <VanessaE> Lee: ok, I was beginning to think so.  Where should I report the bug?
[06:18] <dennister> k...my desktops r quite confused.with this installation
[06:18] <dennister> I've now got a lot of gnome apps in my kde/kubuntu, and lots of kde apps in gnome
[06:19] <dennister> how do I sort this out?
[06:19] <dennister> it's really bugging me
[06:20] <dennister> just edit the menus?
[06:20] <VanessaE> n/m, think I found the right place
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: I don't know if it will show you any more useful information but perhaps apt-get install --print-uris xine-ui will say why your local mirror isn't being used?
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> !launchpad
[06:21] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[06:21] <VanessaE> lemme try that
[06:22] <LeeJunFan> I wonder if it could be something to do with md5sums or some such thing? Just too bad there isn't a more verbose option for apt to have it show why it might reject your repository.
[06:23] <VanessaE> hm, that didn't do anything useful
[06:23] <VanessaE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26836/
[06:24] <VanessaE> it seems to know the package is already downloaded, noting the "Need to get 0B/1606kB"
[06:24] <VanessaE> dammit, it's in the archives dir again.
[06:24] <VanessaE> let me try that again the right way
[06:25] <VanessaE> there, that time it actually showed me a URL - the webserver.
[06:25] <VanessaE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26837/
[06:26] <tao> I'm running Kubuntu live CD, just to check it out.  When i try to install Firefox, it fails!  Does firefox work with this?
[06:28] <VanessaE> fails how?
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: I wonder if you temporarily disable universe if it would get it from your local then?
[06:28] <VanessaE> you shouldn't need to "install" anything if you're just using the livecd
[06:28] <VanessaE> lee: lemme try it
[06:29] <VanessaE> whoa..something new here
[06:29] <VanessaE> nevermind, forgot to comment something out.
[06:29] <VanessaE> ok, now it's willing to use my local package.
[06:30] <VanessaE> 'file:///data/Software/Edgy/.//xine-ui_0.99.4-0ubuntu6_i386.deb'
[06:30] <tao> its just downloads... then says, THere was an error commiting changes
[06:30] <VanessaE> Lee: could the ubuntu servers be tagging things in such a way that everything online it automatically "newer" than whatever I might have locally
[06:30] <Linux_Galore> toa maybe not enough space
[06:30] <VanessaE> ?
[06:31] <VanessaE> s/it/is/
[06:31] <CraZy675> what do I have to do to get qtparted working with ntfsresize?
[06:31] <Linux_Galore> toa try downloading firefox from the mozilla home page and installing it in your home directory
[06:31] <tao> hmm... I'll check thanks Galore
[06:31] <CraZy675> i have tried to apt-get ntfs resize but the package doesn't seem to be there
[06:31] <tao> ok
[06:32] <andresmujica> try apt-get install ntfs-utils
[06:32] <CraZy675> nope
[06:32] <CraZy675> ntfsresize is listed in my qtparted configuation
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: well, it goes by date on the FS I think. But your downloaded ones should match the ubuntu ones.
[06:33] <Linux_Galore> tao: then just create a link from firefox executable in the firefox-install directory created when you unpack the file and your desktop
[06:33] <Linux_Galore> on*
[06:33] <VanessaE> that's what I expected
[06:33] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: of course when you copy it might change, what date shows for your local xine-ui?
[06:34] <VanessaE> 2006-04-29
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: same here.
[06:34] <VanessaE> ok, re-enabling the universe repos. definitely breaks my local repos.
[06:34] <VanessaE> (well, breaks my ability to use it)
[06:34] <Linux_Galore> tao: you dont really need firefox though with kubuntu thoigh because konqueror does the same job
[06:35] <Linux_Galore> tao: and you get that by default
[06:36] <CraZy675> should I use qtparted or is there a better way of resizing ntfs?
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: I dunno, I think we've pretty much exhausted all possibilities other than a bug :( I guess see what comes back from the bug report.
[06:36] <VanessaE> specifically, if I enable the "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe" line, that's when it breaks
[06:36] <CraZy675> oh the status of my ntfs drive is busy, thats weird
[06:37] <J_L_Ctba> Bom dia madrugueiros(as)
[06:38] <VanessaE> searching through the bug database now...
[06:38] <tao> Linux_Galore: I just love firefox  :)  It my personal fav.    ok, i've downloaded it, and its running..  Thanks a lot. But its a shame that KDE couldn't install and add it to the applicaation menus  :(
[06:39] <LeeJunFan> VanessaE: probably better to use the general bugs for all ubuntu, if you go into a specific release like dapper/edgy it may not be reported as specific to that dist.
[06:39] <VanessaE> I'm sticking to then general area, yeah
[06:39] <Hawkwind> Unfortunately konqueror doesn't do near the job firefox will as a webbrowser
[06:39] <VanessaE> er, general searches even
[06:39] <J_L_Ctba> Algum aqui hablas Portugus?
[06:40] <Hawkwind> For instance, most of the Google stuff doesn't work in konqueror, and many many other things
[06:40] <Hawkwind> IMO konqueror is a much better file manager than it is a webbrowser
[06:40] <Hawkwind> !pt
[06:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:40] <Lam_> i'm in the login manager options under system control and i can't find hte option to disable the feature that shows the last user login on start up
[06:40] <Lam_> i want kde not to save that information
[06:40] <tao> I have to admit, I like the functionality ok KDE, but it seems laggy & buggy compared to Gnome on Ubuntu :(
[06:41] <LeeJunFan> Lam_: under convenience tab
[06:41] <LeeJunFan> Lam_: preselect user
[06:41] <LeeJunFan> Lam_: you will have to go to administrator mode to change it.
[06:42] <Lam_> yeah i did that
[06:42] <Lam_> mine is set to None
[06:42] <Lam_> but it still seems to save my username
[06:42] <ny0n> i need help
[06:42] <Lam_> i guess it was a minor bug.  i had to click None and save it again
[06:43] <ny0n> anyone around
[06:43] <Lam_> thanks LeeJunFan
[06:43] <ny0n> i want to get my wifi working with kubuntu
[06:43] <ny0n> any help?
[06:44] <andresmujica> tao: sadly you're right, but the improvement made to ubuntu is awesome. really awesome... at this point is really good so i believe that it's gonna really fien for edgy
[06:45] <CraZy675> I'm totally lost, I have no idea what to type to install ntfsresize
[06:45] <tao> andresmujica:  hmm, didn't realise that... I'm new to both  :)
[06:45] <tao> looks like its Ubuntu for me then  :)
[06:46] <andresmujica> crazy try
[06:46] <LeeJunFan> CraZy675: sudo apt-get install ntfstools
[06:46] <andresmujica> apt-cache search ntfs
[06:46] <LeeJunFan> CraZy675: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[06:46] <andresmujica> or ntfsresize
[06:46] <LeeJunFan> not tools
[06:46] <andresmujica> maybe it would help
[06:46] <Linux_Galore> tao: well you have to understand firefox is actually gtk based so to install firefox you really need to install allot of gtk bits and pieces
[06:46] <CraZy675> LeeJunFan: progs
[06:47] <CraZy675> thanks
[06:47] <coreymon77> guys
[06:47] <tao> Linux_Galore:  Hmm, i see... but i kinda hoped that all the dependencies would be installed as well...  Can't have it all i s'pose  lol
[06:47] <coreymon77> how do i make a shortcut of a file
[06:47] <Linux_Galore> tao: if you download the firefox deb it wont install because of deps ie needs other packages
[06:48] <tao> Linux_Galore:  I just used the "add/remove programs" in the menu
[06:49] <coreymon77> how do i make a shortcut of a file?
[06:49] <CraZy675> how do i update my locate db?
[06:49] <Linux_Galore> tao: aaah yeah I have a feeling its because its using the CD to run stuff and the only thing writable is /home
[06:49] <tao> Linux_Galore: that makes sense... although some other apps installed ok
[06:50] <CVirus> !flash
[06:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:50] <LeeJunFan> I think the CD uses unionfs
[06:50] <Linux_Galore> tao: there is a trick were you can use a usb thumb drive to install packages
[06:50] <LeeJunFan> so it writes changes to the read only filesystems in your RAM, so you'd have to have enough free ram to install the files for firefox AND all it's deps.
[06:50] <CraZy675> updatedb
[06:50] <Linux_Galore> toa: then it must be a space issue with /usr then
[06:50] <tao> Linux_Galore: hmm, that souds a little beyond my capabilities atm tho... I'm very new to this OS
[06:51] <intelikey> "writes changes to the read only filesystems"   '/
[06:51] <intelikey> LeeJunFan the live cd does use unionfs
[06:51] <intelikey> ram is rw.
[06:51] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, well it's late and that's the best you're gonna get from me at the moment.
[06:51] <LeeJunFan> :)
[06:51] <intelikey> :)
[06:51] <Linux_Galore> toa: if I want firefox I would have downloaded ubuntu
[06:51] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: you know what I meant :p
[06:52] <intelikey> k sorry. i raddeled your cage...  :)
[06:52] <tao> Linux_Galore: Already have  :)  I just wanted to see Kubuntu, before i made my final desicion.   I think i'll go for ubuntu simply because of the enhancements (faster interface)
[06:52] <intelikey> errrr actually meant the comma after "k" not after "sorry"
[06:52] <CraZy675> ok I've installed ntfsresize, how do i get qtparted or gparted to use it?
[06:52] <Linux_Galore> tao: if you have a usb thumb drive copy the install file to it
[06:53] <Linux_Galore> tao: depends  Ubuntu uses more ram I found than kubuntu
[06:53] <tao> Linux_Galore: aaargh.. now youre messing with my mind!!  ;)
[06:54] <tao> Linux_Galore: damn, now i'm undecided again!
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> tao: there was a recent benchmark were they tested kde/gnome and they found kde uses less ram even when you run gnome apps in many cases
[06:54] <Dr_willis> heh
[06:54] <Dr_willis> when did ram ussage start mattering again? :)
[06:55] <tao> lol... true i suppose... i have 2gig on this box
[06:55] <Linux_Galore> I found that very amusing, kde running firefox used less ram than gnome running firefox . Im like wtf
[06:55] <Dr_willis> "i perfer a Light Desktop,  and i want all the XGL eye candy"    ---> sort of like "I want the Glutton Bucket - supersized.. with a diet coke"
[06:56] <Linux_Galore> Dr_willis: one of the gnome zealots mantra's is kde used more ram than gnome and is worse when running gnome/gtk apps, the review showed thats total BS
[06:56] <tao> Is there any reason why i couldn't install ubuntu... & then install KDE as well?
[06:57] <Linux_Galore> gnome uses more ram when using gtk apps than kde in 70% of cases
[06:57] <Linux_Galore> tao: you can install ubuntu and install the kubuntu-desktop later
[06:57] <Linux_Galore> toa: work either way around
[06:57] <ny0n> can i use flux box with kubuntu?
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> toa: kubuntu/ubuntu are the same base system
[06:58] <tao> ok.... great.. then my decision is made!
[06:58] <unix_infidel> ny0n: of course.
[06:58] <ny0n> i'm gonna need some help setting up wifi
[06:58] <ny0n> i'm installing kubuntu now to my disk
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> toa: you can install kubuntu and install gnome (ubuntu-desktop) later too
[06:59] <tao> Linux_Galore:  stop that!... decision made.. :p
[06:59] <Dr_willis> Ive been playing with the "MatchBox" desktop/window manager. :)
[06:59] <Linux_Galore> toa: I run kde as my desktop and I do use a fair few gnome apps on the same desktop
[07:00] <Dr_willis> I tend to run KDE, then have a gnome session in a vnc window. :)
[07:00] <Lam_> what network manager can i use to enable connection to WPA2 enabled networks?
[07:00] <Steven_M> is there a samba expert in the room?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Samba is fun. :P
[07:01] <Linux_Galore> tao: Im just saying, the desktop un Linux is just like any other app ie a browser, you can pick and choose with Linux and add and remove
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !network-mannager
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network-mannager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <Dr_willis> !networkmannager
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networkmannager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <tao> Linux_Galore: ok, thanks your opinion is appreciated, i was only kidding  :)
[07:02] <Dr_willis> !network-manager
[07:02] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[07:03] <Linux_Galore> toa: its a bit mind blowing you will find, Linux has no default desktop in reality, if you dont like one install another and try it
[07:03] <tao> Linux_Galore: "mind blowing" is an understatement!
[07:03] <Linux_Galore> tao: its all about choice
[07:04] <Linux_Galore> toa so if you install ubuntu or kubuntu who cares you can install gnome/kde later, and i would recomend trying a few desktops ie even xfce (lightweight desktop)
[07:05] <tao> Linux_Galore: I come from Windows... not used to choice...
[07:05] <Linux_Galore> toa: if you after raw speed and a very functional desktop xfce is very good
[07:05] <Linux_Galore> not as feature rich as kde and gnome but very easy to use
[07:05] <Lam_> i prefer kde after using gnome for about 2 months.  that's just me though; i'm a control freak
[07:06] <tao> Linux_Galore: xfce... is that "window maker"?
[07:06] <Linux_Galore> tao: no
[07:06] <Lam_> xfce is a desktop environment like kde and gnome
[07:06] <Lam_> but it's more slim and works better on lower end systems
[07:06] <Linux_Galore> tao: xubuntu set xfce as the default desktop
[07:06] <Linux_Galore> tao: take a look www.xfce-look.org
[07:06] <tao> Linux_Galore: checking it out now.. thanks
[07:07] <Lam_> and alternatively, www.kde-look.org and gnome-look.org
[07:07] <Lam_> don't ever pick a desktop environment because another one looks "ugly"
[07:08] <Linux_Galore> as much as I like kde I think its not a good thing to tell a new user to stick with any set desktop, Im a try everything and see what you like person
[07:10] <tao> in fairness, I am trying them out... Problem is i want something minimal, but  cos my Linux knoweldge is low, i need something that enables me to find my way around the system... so you, spells everything out for me, installs apps etc...
[07:11] <Lam_> yeah i agree. i was pretty conflicted when i switched to linux and ubuntu about 2 months ago and couldn't decide
[07:11] <tao> so you = you know..
[07:11] <Lam_> so i just picked gnome and used it
[07:11] <Lam_> imo, gnome is a little more immature than kde
[07:11] <Lam_> but that's your choice
[07:12] <Linux_Galore> tao: both ubuntu/kubuntu are pretty minimal (anything on a cd is these days) but for pure minimalist love you cant beat xubuntu
[07:13] <Lam_> though just by starting in this channel, tao, you're already having bias since just about everyone in here uses kde
[07:13] <tao> Linux_Galore: I'm amazed that they have different distros, when the only difference is the desktop.... why not just ask the user at install time which dessktop to use?
[07:13] <Lam_> the desktop environment is a pretty large size
[07:13] <Lam_> not possible to fit 3 desktops into a cd
[07:13] <tao> oh ok
[07:14] <Lam_> i mean, you can try
[07:14] <Lam_> but you wouldn't get programs at installation due to it then
[07:14] <Lam_> like openoffice
[07:14] <Lam_> openoffice takes up about 200mbs alone
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Personally Id rather have kde and gnome.. and dump openoffice. :)
[07:16] <Dr_willis> and then theres the extra stuff on the live cd., :)
[07:17] <Linux_Galore> tao: wont fit them all on a CD
[07:17] <Linux_Galore> tao: hard enough just getting kde and a base system on a cd
[07:18] <tao> i see... fair enough
[07:18] <dom> there's a lot of applications that are tied into one desktop environment or the other
[07:19] <ny0n> ok i need help
[07:19] <ny0n> how can i get kubuntu to work with my wireless card
[07:19] <Lam_> neat. didn't know networkmanager had a frontend for kde
[07:19] <Lam_> thanks Dr_willis
[07:19] <dom> !wireless
[07:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:21] <maryen> hi
[07:21] <maryen> i need some help if possible
[07:21] <Dr_willis> in what area?
[07:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:21] <Jucato> ??
[07:21] <maryen> cups server
[07:22] <Lam_> how do i add a service/program command to start up?
[07:22] <Lam_> er, startup
[07:22] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  what service/program
[07:22] <maryen> cant add printers and gives error about ipp request failing
[07:22] <Lam_> knetworkmanager
[07:22] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. KDE has that .kde/autostart directory
[07:23] <Jucato> sorry, I know nothing about printers... :(
[07:23] <Dr_willis> maryen,  you using the CUPS web interface?
[07:23] <maryen> no, cups printing system
[07:23] <Lam_> ~/.kde/autostart no such directory/file
[07:23] <Jucato> Lam_: make some links in  ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:23] <Lam_> oh Autostart
[07:23] <Lam_> ok thanks
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  LOOK in there. :P
[07:23] <Dr_willis> heh
[07:24] <Dr_willis> and dont ask me why they like to uppercase the letters. :)
[07:24] <maryen> Lam_: you could set the session manager to load up saved sessions and then save a session that you want your computer to start like
[07:24] <ny0n> how do i get to network admin in kubuntu
[07:24] <Dr_willis> maryen,  i never did get that working right with the network manager program.
[07:24] <ny0n> is there a command i type?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> maryen,  so what tool are you using to confogure the printers? the kde printer config tool?
[07:24] <maryen> Dr_willis: i still can't get network manager working right
[07:24] <maryen> Dr_willis: yes
[07:25] <dom> ny0n,  System Settings from your main menu
[07:25] <tao> brb.. thanks for the advice all  :)
[07:25] <maryen> !pastebin
[07:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:25] <jarn> How do I install fants?
[07:25] <dom> !fonts
[07:25] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[07:25] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[07:26] <maryen> exact error reads http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26839/
[07:26] <jarn> I can't install msttcorefonts.
[07:26] <jarn> I already tried.
[07:27] <Dr_willis> jarn,  what did you do?
[07:27] <Dr_willis> maryen,  i always had issues with the kde printer config thing for my networkprinter.. i resorted to using the gnome one. :(
[07:28] <Dr_willis> maryen,  its sad.. i just need to enter the ip# and port 9100 , then select HP/laserjet6l and the kde tool is just... overkill. heh heh
[07:28] <maryen> know the name of the gnome printer config?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> gnome-cups i think. let me check
[07:28] <jarn> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:28] <Dr_willis> gnome-cups-manager
[07:28] <maryen> ok
[07:29] <maryen> it may have something to do with me running edgy
[07:29] <maryen> oh well
[07:29] <jarn> Dr_willis: I did sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:30] <ny0n> anyone using aim
[07:30] <Lam_> is there a shortcut command to show hidden files like gnome's ctrl+h
[07:30] <Dr_willis> jarn,  and what did it not do?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> !info msttcorefonts
[07:30] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[07:30] <maryen> Dr_willis: what is the command to start the program?
[07:30] <Jucato> Lam_: you can make one if you like
[07:30] <Lam_> ok. good to know. thanks Jucato
[07:30] <ny0n> anyone in here on aim?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> maryen,    gnome-cups-manager
[07:31] <ny0n> is tehre a command i can type to et my wireless card working
[07:31] <Jucato> Lam_: Settings > Configure Shortcuts
[07:31] <maryen> ok thanks
[07:31] <maryen> ny0n: ndiswrapper :)
[07:32] <maryen> ny0n: want some help getting your wireless set up?
[07:32] <ny0n> yes
[07:32] <maryen> ny0n: first type lspci in konsole
[07:32] <ny0n> please
[07:32] <ny0n> k
[07:32] <ny0n> done
[07:33] <maryen> ny0n: look through that list for something that says wireless
[07:33] <maryen> ny0n: you're looking for the name of your card
[07:33] <ny0n> got it
[07:33] <ny0n> 802.11g wireless lan controller
[07:33] <maryen> ok gimme a sec
[07:34] <ny0n> i have something else there
[07:35] <maryen> ny0n:
[07:35] <jarn_> Hrm.
[07:35] <ny0n> broadcom corporation BCM4318 802.11g wireless lan controler
[07:35] <jarn_> Dr_willis: Okay, I added the multiverse and installed the package. It still does not show up as a font, however.
[07:35] <notech> it said nothing about which chipset?
[07:35] <ny0n> that's probably the one i need
[07:35] <maryen> ny0n: you see the code before its name
[07:36] <notech> sorry
[07:36] <ny0n> yea
[07:36] <maryen> ny0n: it looks like 0b:00.0 or something
[07:36] <Dr_willis> jarn_,  you may need to restart the font server, or X..
[07:36] <ny0n> 0000:06:00.0
[07:36] <Dr_willis> jarn_,  all ive ever done was just install the package.
[07:36] <maryen> remember that and then type lspci -n
[07:36] <jarn_> Dr_willis: okay, thanks.
[07:36] <ny0n> done
[07:37] <maryen> you wanna find the code next to the one you had before
[07:37] <notech> anyone know the support status of a Netgear WG311 Wireless 'g' PCI card?
[07:37] <ny0n> i see it
[07:37] <maryen> it looks like 14e4:4311
[07:37] <maryen> copy that
[07:37] <ny0n> 14e4:4318
[07:38] <ny0n> done
[07:38] <maryen> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List go here and use search to find that code in that list, and look to see if it matches your laptop
[07:38] <maryen> this will tell you if your wireless card works with linux, and how well
[07:38] <maryen> but since its a broadcom card, it should be pretty easy to get working
[07:39] <ny0n> foun d it
[07:39] <ny0n> so it's supported
[07:39] <maryen> yes
[07:39] <maryen> download the driver it lists
[07:39] <rawrness> Anyone know any good dark themes?
[07:39] <dude> guys, how do i adjust the quality of my audio
[07:40] <unix_infidel> we are not here to support your goth lifestyle.
[07:40] <ny0n> now i need to get the exe on my other computer
[07:40] <unix_infidel> dude: encode at higher quality.
[07:40] <maryen> rawrness: the color pallete "next' turns ubuntu into gothbuntu
[07:40] <maryen> ny0n:
[07:40] <gp_> how do i add projector to y kubuntu laptop
[07:40] <gp_> how do i add projector to y kubuntu laptop
[07:40] <ny0n> wait, boot into my windows partition...dl the driver then book bat into kubuntu?
[07:40] <gp_> how do i add projector to my kubuntu laptop
[07:40] <maryen> ny0n: that page has the driver file you need
[07:40] <ny0n> back*
[07:41] <dude> unix: when im playing my mp3's it seems that it plays a different kind of quality
[07:41] <gp_> hello
[07:41] <gp_> how do i add projector to my kubuntu laptop
[07:41] <thoreauputic> gp_: no need to repeat
[07:41] <maryen> under the entry showing your card is a link like this one probably ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_3020_5020/driver/
[07:41] <gp_> ok
[07:41] <Dr_willis> gp_,  you could clarify what you are rambling about..
[07:41] <jarn_> Dr_willis: Thanks much, it works now.
[07:41] <maryen> download the driver there and skip booting to windows altogether
[07:41] <ny0n> mayren, do you use aim?
[07:41] <dude> hi dr_willis
[07:42] <maryen> yes
[07:42] <Lam_> is frontend one word or two (front end)
[07:42] <Dr_willis> howdy dude
[07:42] <ny0n> can i have your aim name
[07:42] <maryen> jiraiya204829
[07:42] <rawrness> btw dark for me as nothing to do with goth, but a screen will never  be paper so use whatever is better for your eyes.
[07:42] <gp_> i need to add projector to my laptop to give presentation to my boss about saving from linux implementation
[07:42] <maryen> rawrness: lol i was playing
[07:43] <gp_> but my lcd projector doesnt work
[07:43] <dude> Dr.Willis: why is it that when playing mp3 in kubuntu, the quality is different from Xp
[07:43] <gp_> with kubuntu
[07:43] <gp_> i need to add projector to my laptop to give presentation to my boss about saving from linux implementation
[07:43] <gp_> but my lcd projector doesnt work
[07:43] <Dr_willis> gp_,  you are plugging it into the vga output of the laptop eh?  what is your video card.
[07:43] <gp_> yes
[07:43] <Dr_willis> dude,  no idea.. they are the same for me.
[07:43] <Dr_willis> dude,  sound card driver issues perhaps.
[07:44] <dude> Dr_Willis: so i should install the right sound card driver?
[07:44] <morghanphoenix> what's the package name required to compile from source
[07:44] <Dr_willis> gp_,  most likely you will need to install either the ati or nvidia drivers ( if you have one of those) and enalble the  dual monitor features
[07:44] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[07:44] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:44] <flaccid> !syslinux > flaccid
[07:44] <dude> Dr_Willis: and when im using amarok, there's no sound
[07:44] <morghanphoenix> thanks
[07:44] <maryen> !edgy
[07:44] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:45] <Dr_willis> dude,  its possible the drivers for your card are just a little flakey.  amarok may need some extra packages to play mp3's
[07:45] <gp_> ok
[07:45] <gp_> ok
[07:45] <dude> Dr_Willis: where should i download that xtra pacKage?
[07:45] <morghanphoenix> I always forget package names when I switch distros and come back to one I used before.
[07:46] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[07:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnaome) ?
[07:46] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnaome) ?
[07:46] <flaccid> !mcopy > flaccid
[07:46] <dude> tnx
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mcopy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <Dr_willis> gp_,  is your return/keys messed up that you put everything twice?
[07:46] <gp_> yes
[07:46] <Dr_willis> dude,  i also recall the KUBUNTU web site faq mentions some packages/mp3 support
[07:46] <gp_> yes
[07:47] <dude> ok
[07:47] <morghanphoenix> I hate fresh installs, no lame, no libdvdcss, no xine extra codecs.
[07:47] <morghanphoenix> And I always seem to forget I haven't installed them yet
[07:47] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnome) ?
[07:47] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnome) ?
[07:48] <morghanphoenix> depends on what you have going
[07:48] <rawrness> how exatcly do you use .kth i click it box thingy appears to be loading then it disapears  how do i applie it?
[07:48] <rawrness> extention.
[07:49] <Jucato> .kth = KDE Theme Manager file
[07:49] <Jucato> = practically useless unless you have everything that the .kth needs/points to already installed
[07:49] <morghanphoenix> Does kubuntu have the theme manager?
[07:49] <Jucato>  press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol". it's in there
[07:50] <maryen> kubuntu beats ubuntu up and steals its lunch money daily
[07:50] <morghanphoenix> Doesn't show up in kcontrol like it did in slackware and debian
[07:50] <maryen> its under appearance morghanphoenix
[07:50] <rawrness> oh thanks
[07:50] <morghanphoenix> I think that's the old KDE vs Gnome debate
[07:50] <cpk2> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:50] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:50] <cpk2> thats what you want for mp3 support
[07:51] <Jucato> morghanphoenix: it doesn't show up in System Settings, but it's in KControl
[07:51] <Jucato> System Settings != KControl
[07:51] <morghanphoenix> ah, there it is
[07:51] <maryen> did you find it in system settings, or kcontrol
[07:52] <AWOSDev> How do I play a MIDI through an MPU-401 compatible external keyboard?
[07:52] <morghanphoenix> kcontrol
[07:52] <maryen> please say system settings so that my ego may be boosted
[07:52] <Jucato> maryen: in KControl only
[07:52] <AWOSDev> Hey morghanphoenix!  What's up?
[07:52] <Jucato> I think it's good that it's not in System Settings. like I said, it's practically useless...
[07:52] <maryen> hmm so it is
[07:53] <maryen> seems silly to leave it out
[07:53] <maryen> oh well
[07:53] <morghanphoenix> not much, lots of corrupted media files starting to piss me off.
[07:53] <AWOSDev> Hehe, you have the correct codecs?
[07:53] <rawrness> thanks for pointing out thelocation though
[07:53] <morghanphoenix> Seems like all my jpgs are screwed
[07:53] <maryen> AWOS, you wanna help me out with my cups server?
[07:53] <morghanphoenix> mp3s are fine, ogg video is playing as audio
[07:53] <AWOSDev> maryen, I don't really know about CUPS but what's wrong?
[07:54] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, are you playing it in a video compatible player (e.g. Kaffeine or VLC)?
[07:54] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[07:54] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, you try viewing those JPGs in Gwenview?
[07:54] <AWOSDev> m_tadeu Hi!
[07:54] <maryen> the kde version of the print manager wont work
[07:54] <maryen> something about incorrect IPP
[07:55] <m_tadeu> I'm trying to set my keyboard to control the sound...having no luck...can anyone help?
[07:55] <morghanphoenix> yup, I think it was my slackware adventure, something got screwd up in the process of using my home directory for slackware and kubuntu both.
[07:55] <morghanphoenix> jpg files corrupted, don't work in gwenview, gimp, anything
[07:57] <Dr_willis> morghanphoenix,  the files are corrupted/wont view? or are the permissions just wrong?
[07:57] <morghanphoenix> no, I've got all my permissions right.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> maryen,   i normally put in the ip# and the port # of 9100 I think
[07:57] <Dr_willis> maryen,  or is that for the hp-direct printing thing.. kde calls it one thing.. gnome another.
[07:58] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis, for some reason I view you as all-knowing when it comes to Linux hardware (and I don't know why), so I'll ask you personally, how would I play a MIDI through an MPU-401 compatible game port?  (e.g. external keyboard)
[07:58] <maryen> the gnome one works fine
[07:58] <rawrness> wow now all the text is half werided
[07:58] <morghanphoenix> Of course all the porn is fine, just my wallpapers that are screwed.
[07:59] <rawrness> new text is black while old is white
[07:59] <AWOSDev> rawrness, what are you in?
[07:59] <Dr_willis> AWOSDev,  a external midi device is one of the FEW gizmos ive never owned.
[07:59] <rawrness> Konversation
[07:59] <rawrness> i do think it be cause i changed all the setttings
[07:59] <Dr_willis> maryen,  you can configure the thing in gnome..and  iit will be  configured for kde as well. :)
[07:59] <AWOSDev> rawrness, wow, you can change colors in Konversation?  (I honestly didn't know that...)
[08:00] <rawrness> it picked up my theme
[08:00] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis, well shoot.  ;)
[08:00] <rawrness> I changed theme and it changed with it
[08:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm - i just notuiced my printer was set to 300dpi.. not 600
[08:00] <Dr_willis> silly low defaults! :)
[08:01] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis, 600dpi printer?  dang they've come along way...
[08:02] <AWOSDev> My printer had the *new* 150dpi setting!
[08:02] <Dr_willis> AWOSDev,  its over 1o yrs old. :P
[08:02] <Dr_willis> 10
[08:02] <Dr_willis> heh
[08:02] <dude> Dr_Willis: can i configure me 3ddesktop?
[08:02] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis: actually it's only 9 years.
[08:02] <Dr_willis> dude,  by 3ddesktop - exactly  WHAT are you refering to?
[08:03] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis: but my 7 year old printer gets 300dpi.
[08:03] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis: dude is talking about the program called 3ddesktop.
[08:03] <Dr_willis> AWOSDev,  i bought it as one of the first things i started working at Daimlerchrysler.. and ive been there 12 years.
[08:03] <dude> Dr_Willis: yes
[08:03] <m_tadeu> has anyone tryed to configure actions for those media keyboards?
[08:03] <Dr_willis> dude,  the 3ddesktop program - is a total peice of garbage... dont even mess with it.
[08:03] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis: sheesh, 600dpi was available then?  grrr
[08:04] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis: I was still on dot-matrix then :O
[08:04] <Dr_willis> it just puts an annoying desktop switcher/change on a hotkey.
[08:04] <dude> Dr_Willis: ok, sure
[08:04] <Dr_willis> AWOSDev,  i had a cannon bj-200 befor that  :) it wasone of the first bubblejets out.
[08:04] <Dr_willis> I saw it in the closet the other day
[08:05] <dude> Dr_Willis: i can't configure amarok to play my mp3's, actually its playing but no sound
[08:05] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis, yeah I got a BubbleJet 10 years ago
[08:05] <Dr_willis> dude,  if you see the sound bars jumping up and down in the buttom.. you may have the sound volums down.
[08:05] <Dr_willis> whatever ya call that sound graph. :)
[08:05] <unix> bom dia a todos
[08:05] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis, the spectralyzer?
[08:05] <AWOSDev> !es
[08:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:06] <Dr_willis> spectralyzer  - Now thats a fancy term!
[08:06] <unix> its ircis in english???
[08:06] <unix> o.O
[08:06] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis yeah that's the one with the green line that jumps up and down, not the one you're refering to.
[08:06] <Dr_willis> No Visualizations Found - argh!
[08:06] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. wonder why not.. i got the libvis stuff installed
[08:07] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis, weird, that just popped up for me too
[08:07] <dude> Dr_Willis: my mistake, it doesn't play mp3
[08:07] <Dr_willis> wasent we just talking about this? :) or was that befor dude entered..
[08:08] <AWOSDev> dude, get liblame0
[08:08] <unix> onde eu acho um IRC em portugues?
[08:08] <dude> sorry
[08:08] <dude> tnx
[08:08] <AWOSDev> dude, type     sudo apt-get install liblame0    <- on the Konsole
[08:08] <AWOSDev> !pt
[08:08] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:08] <Dr_willis> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:08] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:08] <dude> AWOSDev: ok, tnx
[08:09] <Dr_willis> the KUBUNTU web site has a FAQ thta mentions mp3 support for other programs as well
[08:09] <AWOSDev> dude, np
[08:09] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis, yeah but liblame0 works fine for everybody, no need to fudge around with things you don't need to fudge around with.  :)
[08:09] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-plugins  libvisual-0.4-0  libvisual0.2-plugins  libvisual0.2
[08:09] <Dr_willis> there we go!
[08:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:09] <Dr_willis> its got to be one or more of those!
[08:10] <dude> liblame0 is already the newest version.
[08:10] <Dr_willis> i find the nameing of   liblame0  - to be 'odd'
[08:10] <jarn> I had added some window-specific settings to Konsole and they worked fine, but now they don't - all I changed was restarting X to get my font to work.
[08:11] <AWOSDev> dude, okay try the package Dr_willis suggested up there
[08:11] <AWOSDev> dude, try        sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[08:11] <dude> k copy
[08:13] <dude> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS....thanks....
[08:13] <dude> :)
[08:13] <AWOSDev> dude, np :)
[08:13] <dude> i love music
[08:13] <dude> :)
[08:13] <AWOSDev> dude, me too :)
[08:14] <dude> how about video player?
[08:14] <AWOSDev> dude, try vlc (I like VLC)
[08:14] <Lam_> argh how annoying. i set up ndiswrapper and networkmanager the same way that i did in gnome and it wont connect to my router
[08:14] <dude> and radio streaming program
[08:14] <AWOSDev> dude, like what kind of radio?  Top 40?
[08:14] <AWOSDev> dude, for video --           sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:14] <dude> AWOSDev: online radio streaming, billboards
[08:15] <AWOSDev> dude, not sure, I personally use MediaPlayerConnectivity in Mozilla and grab the stream link and paste into VLC.
[08:15] <dude> AWOSDev: ok
[08:15] <unix> algum brasileiro?
[08:15] <AWOSDev> !br
[08:15] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:16] <dude> AWOSDev: everything is complete...i might not use my xp anymore :)
[08:17] <AWOSDev> dude, Yay!  A convert!  :)
[08:17] <akrus> hello everyone :)
[08:17] <AWOSDev> Hello akrus
[08:17] <akrus> I need some help with installing latest fglrx on edgy/beta
[08:17] <AWOSDev> !edgy
[08:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:18] <dude> AWOSDev: one more problem or maybe the last one
[08:18] <AWOSDev> dude, okay
[08:18] <AWOSDev> akrus, on that note, I'd head to #ubuntu+1 :)
[08:18] <akrus> actually I followed the instructions, but I still cannot get it to work o_O
[08:18] <akrus> hm
[08:18] <akrus> okay :)
[08:18] <ubuntu> ok i'm trying to scan the hard drive and it says 116 cluster mismatches
[08:18] <ubuntu> i'm trying to resize my windows partition
[08:18] <AWOSDev> ubuntu, yuckers, on Windows?
[08:19] <ubuntu> im in the kubuntu live cd right now
[08:19] <AWOSDev> That was that error I ever got on my only failed hard drive
[08:19] <AWOSDev> the last that is
[08:19] <ubuntu> ok should i do a checkdisk and then try it?
[08:19] <AWOSDev> Only one hard drive that has ever died on me, yep that's what it said
[08:19] <AWOSDev> Yes yes yes yes
[08:19] <AWOSDev> ubuntu, using 2000?
[08:19] <ubuntu> no
[08:19] <AWOSDev> NT 4?
[08:19] <dude> AWOSDev: i usually connect to the office via remote desktop(Xp) any suggestion for kubuntu
[08:19] <ubuntu> xp on the other partition
[08:19] <ubuntu> its not even my computer its a friend's
[08:19] <ubuntu> he saw me using XGL and now he wants it lmao
[08:20] <AWOSDev> dude, Remote Desktop, hold on
[08:20] <akrus> hm
[08:20] <akrus> but anyway lol
[08:20] <akrus>  /dev/dri/card0 <-- why is it missing? (as well as card1, card2 etc.)
[08:20] <AWOSDev> dude, try krdc
[08:21] <ubuntu> ok
[08:21] <ubuntu> k i'm really tired
[08:21] <AWOSDev> ubuntu, yes run chkdsk
[08:21] <ubuntu> its 2 in the morning
[08:21] <AWOSDev> ubuntu okay g'night :)
[08:21] <AWOSDev> Actually 2:20am
[08:21] <ubuntu> i'll do chkdisk tomorrow
[08:21] <ubuntu> lol smartass
[08:21] <ubuntu> ok bye everyone
[08:21] <dude> AWOSDev: download kdrc?
[08:22] <AWOSDev> dude, yes          sudo apt-get install krdc
[08:22] <dude> AWOSDev: tnx
[08:22] <rawrness> whats the term of the screen  you log in at
[08:22] <AWOSDev> k r d c, thats Kilo Robert Delta Charlie.  (you said kDrc, so I'm making sure you spell it right.)
[08:23] <dude> AWOSDev: what the equivalent of terminal window in kubuntu?
[08:23] <AWOSDev> rawrness, the uh login screen?
[08:23] <Jucato> KDM? Login Screen?
[08:23] <rawrness> I forgot what i did to change it.....
[08:23] <AWOSDev> dude, Konsole.
[08:24] <AWOSDev> dude, KDE Menu->System->Konsole if you can't find it
[08:24] <jarn> I had assigned some window specific settings for Konsole and they worked great. However, they got reset. The only change I made to anything was to restart X to get my fonts working.
[08:24] <dude> AWOSDev: ok, tnx
[08:25] <AWOSDev> jarn, had you ever restarted X before?
[08:25] <AWOSDev> *YES*, that was a serious question..
[08:25] <rawrness> of course it is
[08:25] <rawrness> mine crashes half the time i restart mine :P
[08:26] <jarn> AWOSDev:yes
[08:26] <AWOSDev> jarn, then no clue
[08:26] <jarn> AWOSDev: I had not done it since putting in these settings, though.
[08:27] <AWOSDev> Okay then that explains it.
[08:27] <AWOSDev> Don't restart X and you'll be fine.
[08:27] <AWOSDev> sorry, that's my only suggestion.
[08:27] <jarn> But they don't work NOW.
[08:28] <jarn> So I'm not fine. :/
[08:28] <m_tadeu> my volume keys refuse to work
[08:28] <m_tadeu> all media keys are working except for the volume keys
[08:29] <AWOSDev> m_tadeu, as in what, WIN + or what?
[08:30] <m_tadeu> AWOSDev: you know those media keyboards? with keys to volume up/down and mute? play, stop, etc?
[08:30] <jarn> m_tadeu: Mine work... Just set them as global shortcuts.
[08:31] <rawrness> ahh i figured out what i was looking for kdm files :P
[08:31] <AWOSDev> m_tadeu, yeah I have one, none of them work :P
[08:31] <m_tadeu> jarn: I did that...the keys are mapped correctly and the shortcuts configured
[08:32] <m_tadeu> AWOSDev: hehe just find a similar keyboard and map them :)
[08:33] <AWOSDev> m_tadeu, I have the original Linux-implemented Multimedia Keyboard IIRC, the 1998 Compaq Internet/MM Keyboard.
[08:33] <morghanphoenix> !restricted
[08:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:33] <morghanphoenix> Thanks little bot buddy
[08:34] <AWOSDev> You've been such a good little bot
[08:34] <AWOSDev> !botsnack
[08:34] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:34] <dude_> AWOSDev: what i mean is that the connect btton is not highlighted when i enter
[08:35] <morghanphoenix> ARGH!
[08:35] <AWOSDev> dude_, hmm?
[08:35] <morghanphoenix> Has no installation candidate again
[08:35] <morghanphoenix> stupid repos
[08:35] <morghanphoenix> same problem as before with repos
[08:36] <fdoving> what's the problem with the repos?
[08:36] <morghanphoenix> telling me packages don't exist
[08:37] <morghanphoenix> updating, again, hopefully it'll work now
[08:37] <fdoving> hmm.
[08:38] <morghanphoenix> package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source.
[08:38] <fdoving> what package?
[08:38] <morghanphoenix> I have all the repos enabled and it still keeps giving me this
[08:38] <morghanphoenix> libxine-extracodecs
[08:38] <AWOSDev> dude_, you mean in krdc?
[08:38] <akrus> multiverse?
[08:38] <fdoving> no errors during 'apt-get update' / adept fetch updates ?
[08:38] <morghanphoenix> and akode and arts and everything
[08:39] <morghanphoenix> done, completly updated, all repos enabled.
[08:39] <jarn> morghanphoenix: Even the multiverse?
[08:39] <morghanphoenix> yup
[08:39] <dude_> AWOSDev: yes
[08:39] <morghanphoenix> universe, multiverse, backports etc.
[08:39] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: what does 'apt-cache madison libxine-extracodecs' return?
[08:40] <morghanphoenix> nothing
[08:40] <jarn> morghanphoenix: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs
[08:40] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: what about 'apt-cache madison dsniff' ?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> fdoving: I thnk you mean "apt-cache search", or maybe "apt-cache show"
[08:41] <fdoving> thoreauputic: i don't.
[08:41] <morghanphoenix> universe only
[08:42] <morghanphoenix> I enabled multiverse, wtf?
[08:42] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> fdoving: ah, interesting - I learnt something, thanks :)
[08:42] <fdoving> thoreauputic: you're welcome :)
[08:42] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:42] <morghanphoenix> !pastebin
[08:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:44] <morghanphoenix> there it is, just basic list, might need to source-o-matic it
[08:44] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: if you pastebin it i can tell you whats wrong with it,and why multiverse doesn't work.
[08:44] <morghanphoenix> it's there
[08:44] <fdoving> url?
[08:45] <morghanphoenix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26840/
[08:45] <fdoving> thanks.
[08:45] <dude_> AWOSDev: you there?
[08:45] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: you don't have multiverse enabled.
[08:46] <morghanphoenix> oh, crap, I was looking at backports
[08:46] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: open adept (kmenu -> system -> adept) in the 'Adept menu' select 'Manage repositories'
[08:47] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: find the lines where the 'Component' column says 'universe', doubleclick on universe and add multiverse at the end, it should say 'universe multiverse', do that for both lines.
[08:47] <morghanphoenix> yeah, I know, wasn't paying close enough attention
[08:48] <morghanphoenix> hmm, no multiverse
[08:48] <fdoving> what?
[08:49] <morghanphoenix> not there
[08:49] <dude_> AWOSDev: you there?
[08:49] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: where?
[08:49] <morghanphoenix> no multiverse in the list
[08:49] <morghanphoenix> I'm gonna source-o-matic it.
[08:49] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: look for 'universe' - doubleclick 'universe' and edit it to say 'universe multiverse'
[08:50] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: repeat the process for the second line with 'universe' as component.
[08:50] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: this is easier than source-o-maticing :)
[08:50] <morghanphoenix> done
[08:51] <fdoving> now 'apply' -> 'close' -> 'fetch updates'
[08:52] <morghanphoenix> right back to universe only
[08:52] <fdoving> what?
[08:53] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: you have to press 'enter' when you want to save when editing the repositories in adept.
[08:54] <dude_> AWOSDev: you there?
[08:54] <dude_> who knows how to configure krdc
[08:56] <morghanphoenix> I know, and I did
[08:56] <morghanphoenix> does apt-get do distro upgrades?
[09:02] <Brydenn33> hey
[09:02] <Brydenn33> when you are compiling from source...
[09:03] <morghanphoenix> woah, a live one!
[09:03] <Brydenn33> how do you install so that it creates a .deb so it can more easily be uninstalled later?
[09:03] <Brydenn33> hehe hi morghanphoenix
[09:03] <morghanphoenix> checkinstall
[09:03] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: yes, apt-get can do distro-upgrades.
[09:03] <Brydenn33> when do you type check install?
[09:03] <Brydenn33> after ./configure or make
[09:03] <fdoving> after 'make'
[09:03] <Brydenn33> thanks guys
[09:03] <fdoving> it's a 'make install' replacement.
[09:03] <Brydenn33> hey fdoving
[09:04] <Brydenn33> you helped me a few hours ago haha you rock
[09:04] <fdoving> hi brydenn33 :)
[09:04] <Brydenn33> so when i do "make install" it will show up in Adept-Manager right
[09:04] <Brydenn33> so i can uninstall from there if i so choose
[09:04] <rawrness> you could just sit for hours on kde look just at splash screens
[09:04] <morghanphoenix> lol
[09:04] <Brydenn33> rawrness: i have
[09:04] <Brydenn33> hehe
[09:04] <Brydenn33> but i like the moodin one best
[09:04] <fdoving> Brydenn33: when you don't do 'make install', but instead do 'checkinstall' it will show up in adept
[09:05] <Brydenn33> with the fingerprint thing
[09:05] <morghanphoenix> Fresh install, my computer is pretty boring atm
[09:05] <rawrness> strangly anouth 27  pages and only 1 i like
[09:05] <Brydenn33> fdoving: thanks, thats what i thought
[09:05] <Brydenn33> i got a nice screen dump of my desktop morghanphoenix
[09:05] <AWOSDev> dude_, yes sorry, they did Evanescense's Making the Video on MTV3
[09:05] <Brydenn33> i'll link ya... take a look :)
[09:06] <Brydenn33> http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8407/snapshot1co0.png
[09:06] <morghanphoenix> source-o-matic done and working perfectly, don't know what was wrong before
[09:06] <fdoving> Brydenn33: just as a note, the .debs you make are -not- good for publishing. they are not very good quality.
[09:06] <Brydenn33> http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/997/snapshot2cl7.png
[09:06] <Brydenn33> yah i figured fdoving
[09:06] <Brydenn33> i'm sure they'd be more specific to my setup and not fit for anything else really
[09:07] <morghanphoenix> Search KDE Look for NeoBlue and you'll see what mine looked like before the reinstall
[09:07] <Brydenn33> i love my background and nVidia button hehe
[09:07] <morghanphoenix> That's a nice one
[09:07] <morghanphoenix> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=39121
[09:07] <Brydenn33> yah that vector graphic of the hot chick with boxing gloves on is hot
[09:08] <morghanphoenix> check that one out, I know I didn't make it, but it fits my computer perfectly
[09:08] <morghanphoenix> Almost like it was made for me.
[09:08] <Brydenn33> thats pretty cool morghanphoenix
[09:08] <Brydenn33> omfg hobbsee
[09:08] <Brydenn33> havent seen that name in here for awhile
[09:08] <Brydenn33> that person's helped me before too
[09:09] <rawrness> whats exatcly is the diffrence between lilo and grub?
[09:09] <Brydenn33> lilo sucks
[09:09] <Brydenn33> less you can do with it
[09:09] <rawrness> just by  your comment about zsnes
[09:09] <rawrness> il take your work for it
[09:09] <morghanphoenix> I use snes9x
[09:09] <Brydenn33> haha
[09:09] <Brydenn33> yah they're both great programs
[09:10] <Brydenn33> if it works it works
[09:10] <morghanphoenix> I like lilo, better graphics
[09:10] <morghanphoenix> You can get great custom lilo themes
[09:10] <rawrness> so lilo is gui picture ish?
[09:10] <Brydenn33> fdoving:  so i type "sudo check install"
[09:11] <morghanphoenix> one word
[09:11] <rawrness> while grub is just command prompt like dodad
[09:11] <Brydenn33> k
[09:11] <fdoving> Brydenn33: 'sudo checkinstall'
[09:11] <AWOSDev> Ugh the last time I used LILO it did nothing but a graphical list, no options or anything.  Then again I last used it on Red Hat 5 :P
[09:11] <morghanphoenix> 1024x768x256 boot screen
[09:11] <Brydenn33> brydenn@c-67-169-218-218:~/zsnes_1_42/src$ sudo checkinstall
[09:11] <Brydenn33> sudo: checkinstall: command not found
[09:11] <Brydenn33> wtf?
[09:12] <rawrness> what aws everyones first experince with linux
[09:12] <fdoving> !checkinstall > brydenn33
[09:12] <morghanphoenix> debian
[09:12] <rawrness> mine was with fedora 5 having my mouse gone due to my card..
[09:12] <bmo_> you can get themes for grub.  http://debblue.debian.net/faq.php
[09:12] <rawrness> and having to mess with the boot command thingy
[09:13] <Brydenn33> my first experience was RedHat waaaaaaaaaayyyy back in the day
[09:13] <Brydenn33> then i played with SuSe for a day or two
[09:13] <morghanphoenix> slackware has a gui lilo tool in it, I'm sure there's one for debian systems too.
[09:13] <Brydenn33> then Mepis
[09:13] <Brydenn33> then this
[09:13] <Brydenn33> and i'm stayin with this
[09:13] <rawrness> This is good.
[09:13] <bmo_> who cares about boot themes anyway, I never reboot mine
[09:13] <Brydenn33> yah it is
[09:13] <rawrness> i have a hole cd case full of distros
[09:13] <Brydenn33> i'd like to learn some BSD though
[09:13] <Brydenn33> i heard BSD is pretty tight
[09:13] <morghanphoenix> I like slackware, just have some multimedia problems there so I'm sticking with Kubuntu 'till I get those worked out.
[09:14] <flaccid> tighter than ya mum
[09:14] <Brydenn33> yah well linux in general lacks in that area
[09:14] <AWOSDev> My first *real* experience was Red Hat 9, in 2003, bought off of eBay.
[09:14] <Brydenn33> they dont have any really good audio ripping apps
[09:14] <Brydenn33> and that blows
[09:14] <dude_> can u help me configure krdc?
[09:14] <AWOSDev> I Love BSD, FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE works well
[09:14] <Brydenn33> the best thing they have is RubyRipper
[09:14] <AWOSDev> dude_ sry no
[09:14] <Brydenn33> and it's not so good
[09:14] <Brydenn33> brb gotta read
[09:15] <dude_> AWOSDev: i can't connect
[09:15] <AWOSDev> dude_ I know, I can't either, I have no clue.
[09:15] <AWOSDev> :(
[09:15] <morghanphoenix> I hate that bar downstairs
[09:16] <rawrness> gag adding a boot screen for  grub is evil looking....
[09:16] <rawrness> black and white is good for me.......
[09:16] <bmo_> you know, this flew by, but as I looked up, I noticed the unintended irony : <flaccid> tighter than ya mum
[09:16] <morghanphoenix> It's live music night and they've got one of those bands that thinks it can make up for sucking by playing REALLY loud.
[09:16] <bmo_> rofl
[09:16] <dude_> AWOSDev: can i use my webcam in kopete?
[09:16] <rawrness> Fun
[09:16] <AWOSDev> lol
[09:16] <maryen> no you may not
[09:16] <AWOSDev> dude_ No clue
[09:16] <dude_> hi maryen
[09:16] <AWOSDev> that LOL was for morghanphoenix
[09:17] <morghanphoenix> I'm so happy my scroll wheel works again
[09:17] <rawrness> whats realy the point of a webcam
[09:17] <morghanphoenix> Didn't work in slackware, even after I edited all my config files
[09:18] <rawrness> wow i can see a laggy vid some moron  over there
[09:18] <dude_> AWOSDev: remote desktop connection is the last thing i need to complete the transition and it won't work
[09:18] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, you're kidding!  That's very odd, it's all Linux 2.6 right?  I mean there shouldn't be a difference...oh what am I saying Ubuntu is totally different from SuSE which is totally different from Red Hat.
[09:18] <dude_> how sad
[09:18] <morghanphoenix> 2.4
[09:18] <AWOSDev> dude_ hold on another sec
[09:19] <morghanphoenix> what's the kernel report command?
[09:19] <Brydenn33> hmm
[09:20] <Brydenn33> running into a problem again
[09:20] <Brydenn33> /usr/bin/install: cannot stat `zsnes': No such file or directory
[09:20] <Brydenn33> make: *** [install]  Error 1
[09:20] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, uname -a maybe?
[09:20] <dude_> aside from kopete ang gaim, any other suggetions?
[09:20] <maryen> Brydenn33: why not use sudo apt-get install zsnes
[09:20] <bmo> AWOSDev: for years and years, SuSE has always had specially tweaked kernels.  This has gone on at least since the SuSE 6.0 days.  Yes, SuSE is different than all the other linuxes especially at the kernel level
[09:20] <morghanphoenix> 2.6.15-23
[09:21] <Brydenn33> didnt know it was in the repository
[09:21] <maryen> its more fun
[09:21] <Brydenn33> dude_:  what are you trying to do?
[09:21] <morghanphoenix> I like the fact that slackware was i686 though.
[09:21] <maryen> yep it is
[09:21] <Brydenn33> thanks maryen
[09:21] <bmo> <---used to be a SuSE fan until Breezy
[09:21] <AWOSDev> dude_ Konversation
[09:21] <ablaha> How do i unninstall gnome and xfce in ubuntu? i have kde rinning now
[09:21] <dude_> brydenn33: configuring krdc
[09:21] <maryen> i used to be a suse fan until suse 10.1
[09:21] <Brydenn33> is he just trying to transfer a file
[09:21] <bmo> apt-get install xfce-desktop
[09:21] <vursitis> hello
[09:22] <rawrness> greetings
[09:22] <ablaha> bmo: i want to unninstall
[09:22] <AWOSDev> I used SuSE 9.2 until I got my Ubuntu discs, now me likey :)
[09:22] <morghanphoenix> Ooh, thanks for reminding me, need to put fluxbox back on my system
[09:22] <bmo> apt-get remove, then
[09:22] <ablaha> bmo: i have try, sudo?
[09:23] <bmo> I would use Synaptic or Adept to track down all the bits of xfce  using the search functions
[09:23] <dude_> konversation can connect to yahoo?
[09:23] <ablaha> root terminal?
[09:23] <AWOSDev> dude_ no sorry IRC onlyu
[09:23] <AWOSDev> *only
[09:23] <vursitis> what exactly are the advantages of fluxbox in your opinion morghanphoenix? i have been using xubuntu on my laptop, and havent had a chance to try out fluxbox nor have i met anyone who used it
[09:23] <maryen> it has a cool name
[09:23] <vursitis> im sorry, *have been using XFCE*
[09:24] <dude_> brydenn33: remote desktop
[09:24] <Brydenn33> i see
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> It's really fast and uncluttered, only does what you tell it to without all the automated crap, I use it when I'm doing things that bogs kde down and it runs them fast.
[09:24] <dude_> AWOSDev: limewire for kubuntu?
[09:24] <Brydenn33> so maryen why do you like snes9x over zsnes?
[09:24] <AWOSDev> dude_ what's Limewire?
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> Aside from that I'm not really sure, I just like the speed
[09:24] <maryen> i don't
[09:24] <Brydenn33> lol Limewire is like emule
[09:24] <bmo> it's a gnutella client, AWO
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> frostwire in linux
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> much better
[09:24] <maryen> frostwire is better
[09:24] <Brydenn33> yah
[09:24] <bmo> java based
[09:25] <vursitis> hm... i would have to get used to a new interface, but i might try it out, this laptop isn't quite outdated, but its getting to the point where, i know in about a year it will be useless
[09:25] <maryen> i use apollon tho
[09:25] <Brydenn33> i like DC++ best :)
[09:25] <morghanphoenix> azureus always gave me problems but frostwire ran great
[09:25] <AWOSDev> !info limewire
[09:25] <ubotu> Package limewire does not exist in any distro I know
[09:25] <Brydenn33> Azureus ownz
[09:25] <AWOSDev> !info gnutella
[09:25] <ubotu> Package gnutella does not exist in any distro I know
[09:25] <AWOSDev> !info emule
[09:25] <maryen> !info giFT
[09:25] <ubotu> Package emule does not exist in any distro I know
[09:25] <morghanphoenix> bittorrent
[09:25] <ubotu> gift: metapackage for the giFT filesharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.8.1-1 (dapper), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB
[09:25] <Brydenn33> frostwire is good
[09:25] <bmo> http://www.limewire.com/english/content/home.shtml
[09:25] <Brydenn33> limewire = gay
[09:25] <Brydenn33> lol
[09:25] <Brydenn33> i hate that program now
[09:26] <maryen> gift basically uses the limewire network + the openft network
[09:26] <maryen> plus its not java based
[09:26] <AWOSDev> Sorry I don't do filesharing
[09:26] <maryen> c'mon AWOSDev, everyones doing it
[09:26] <morghanphoenix> I couldn't get bittorrent to work right in slackware, too many dependancies that I couldn't find.
[09:27] <vursitis> ew java...
[09:27] <maryen> don't ya wanna be one of the cool kids
[09:27] <morghanphoenix> I'm installing java right now
[09:27] <bmo> use ktorrent, morghan
[09:27] <Brydenn33> lol yah, everyone's doing it AWOSDev
[09:27] <maryen> ktorrent is good
[09:27] <dude_>  can't find frostwire
[09:27] <bmo> gooooogle
[09:27] <AWOSDev> I did use Ktorrent
[09:27] <Brydenn33> never used ktorrent. i just stick with azureus
[09:27] <maryen> its not in the repos
[09:28] <dude_> oh
[09:28] <dude_> ok
[09:28] <bmo> http://www.frostwire.com/
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> sudo apt-get install libqt-perl
[09:28] <osiris> anyone know of a good subnet calculator
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> lol
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> wrong window
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> konversation is right next to my terminal
[09:28] <AWOSDev> fdoving, who are you blocking?
[09:28] <maryen> fdoving is being nice
[09:29] <AWOSDev> I don't really view blocking cpe.net.cable.rogers.com as being nice
[09:29] <maryen> its like hes being controlled by the spirit of jesus
[09:29] <fdoving> AWOSDev: i'm just cleaning the banlist somewhat.
[09:29] <bmo> http://www.subnet-calculator.com/
[09:29] <AWOSDev> unless they are a spam bot
[09:29] <maryen> or ubunut
[09:29] <maryen> ubuntu*
[09:29] <AWOSDev> Oooooooooooooooooh
[09:29] <AWOSDev> ubunut ROFL
[09:29] <maryen> he lifted the ban
[09:29] <morghanphoenix> what's the deal with all the spam lately
[09:29] <dude_> remote desktop program
[09:29] <morghanphoenix> My spam load has quadrupled in the last week
[09:29] <dude_> any other suggestions?
[09:29] <AWOSDev> Thought you were banning, if you are unbanning then that's fine
[09:30] <fdoving> dude_: i recommend freenx.
[09:30] <AWOSDev> dude_ tsclient?
[09:30] <fdoving> !nx > dude_
[09:30] <bmo> morghan: use graylisting.  kills spambots dead
[09:30] <morghanphoenix> how do I do that?
[09:31] <chimaera_> good morning
[09:31] <AWOSDev> sudo apt-get install graylisting?  IDK...
[09:31] <chimaera_> since upgrading to 3.5.5 i cannot log out. the logout-entry in kmenu simply does nothing (neither does a DCOP call). if i start a 2nd session, it works. any ideas?
[09:31] <maryen> !ubuntu christ edition > fdoving
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu christ edition - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <AWOSDev> Oh the Christian edition, I heard of that
[09:31] <maryen> !ubuntu CE > fdoving
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu CE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <AWOSDev> on #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:31] <AWOSDev> !Christian
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Christian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <AWOSDev> !the Lord
[09:31] <fdoving> maryen: go to #kubuntu-offtopic for playing around.
[09:31] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[09:31] <dude_> i do i download frostwire?
[09:31] <maryen> :(
[09:31] <maryen> ill be good
[09:32] <AWOSDev> actually I prefer to just /msg Ubotu in those situations :)
[09:32] <bmo> http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/  my mail host uses it, and it cut the spamload from (on my account alone) from several hundred a day to about 5
[09:33] <maryen> i use bogofilter
[09:33] <bmo> because spambots don't handle error messages
[09:33] <bmo> they just go on to the next address
[09:33] <bmo> real servers, though, DO.
[09:33] <maryen> it just sends everything to the trash ; ;
[09:33] <fdoving> i use mailscanner, and it's really nice.
[09:34] <bmo> graylisting handles the spam right at the smtp port, before it even hits the file system
[09:35] <dude_> i do i download frostwire?
[09:35] <AWOSDev> I like filters, I don't trust any lists
[09:35] <AWOSDev> too risky when you're running a business
[09:35] <maryen> mailscanner is really complex
[09:35] <maryen> much more so than compiling your own kernel
[09:35] <Vursitis-X> lol
[09:35] <AWOSDev> I had a server filter running, and it grabbed a PayPal payment
[09:35] <AWOSDev> because her email was sexy@somewhere
[09:36] <AWOSDev> It saw 'sex' and boom
[09:36] <maryen> and rightly so, sex is bad
[09:36] <bmo> graylisting would have let that through, AWOSDev
[09:36] <fdoving> you get paypal payments from sexy girls. lucky bastard :)O
[09:36] <bmo> it's not a filter
[09:36] <bmo> hah
[09:36] <AWOSDev> She was in the UK somewhere
[09:36] <maryen> i just wish bogofilter would not think emails from my english teacher are evil spam
[09:37] <AWOSDev> I remember I went into PayPal and saw an order I didn't recognize
[09:37] <AWOSDev> Your English teacher is evil?
[09:37] <dude_> is frenx one of the repos?
[09:38] <morghanphoenix> wierd, konversation froze and just went superluminal to catch up
[09:38] <fdoving> dude_: it's in the seveas repositories.
[09:38] <fdoving> !freenx
[09:38] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[09:38] <bmo> I kid you not.  I got a spam today pumping the stock "arss"
[09:38] <fdoving> dude_: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[09:38] <AWOSDev> LOL
[09:38] <bmo> "I can't be arsed to buy arss"
[09:39] <AWOSDev> LOLx2
[09:39] <morghanphoenix> I keep getting spams trying to sell me fake rolex watches.
[09:39] <AWOSDev> Yeah me too
[09:39] <AWOSDev> I could just get a knockoff watch on eBay if I wanted one :P
[09:39] <bmo> "we have the real fake rolex watches!"
[09:39] <morghanphoenix> pretty much
[09:39] <fdoving> would be nice to have you guys in #kubuntu-offtopic would give the channel more life :)
[09:39] <morghanphoenix> how do they get my name?
[09:39] <AWOSDev> More life?
[09:39] <AWOSDev> Heck we *are* the life.
[09:39] <morghanphoenix> I don't put in my address anywhere that doesn't mask it.
[09:39] <AWOSDev> :)
[09:40] <maryen> but we can joke and solve peoples problems at the same time
[09:40] <maryen> just like if seinfeld was a superhero
[09:40] <fdoving> AWOSDev: it's just a nice way of saying 'this is not support related, go to #kubuntu-offtopic -now- :)
[09:40] <morghanphoenix> Amarok, update library, maybe sometime tomorrow I can actually listen to my music.
[09:40] <bmo> nono, you got that wrong...it's "joke and _pretend_ to solve peoples' problems"
[09:40] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[09:41] <AWOSDev> _pretend_?  Hey I fixed dude_'s MP3 problem
[09:41] <maryen> and i fixed ny0n's wireless problems
[09:41] <bmo> it was a joke, AWOSDev
[09:41] <bmo> laugh, it's good for you
[09:41] <bmo> :-P
[09:41] <maryen> all without him having a network connection
[09:41] <AWOSDev> I already did when you got the arss email :P
[09:41] <rawrness> its funny how you can spend hours looking for something your only going to see once every few days for about 10 sec....
[09:41] <maryen> laughing causes face cancer early on ; ;
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> it'd be nice if people used kot for more than flame wars.
[09:42] <fdoving> making progress.. next step is having all the offtopic chatting in #kubuntu-offtopic, while still helping people solve their problems in here.
[09:42] <AWOSDev> :)
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> last time I saw people talk in off topic was when homer and I think it was blacken went at it
[09:42] <AWOSDev> Well anybody gonna go to offtopic?
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> allready there
[09:43] <morghanphoenix> always there, it's an auto-join
[09:43] <dude_> hehehe: i can't install freenx
[09:43] <dude_> slow
[09:43] <bmo> well, I am, now.  and I am all alone
[09:44] <bmo> oh, and I have op!
[09:45] <morghanphoenix> got awful quiet in here when off-topic picked up.
[09:45] <bmo> * bmo cries
[09:45] <bmo> [03:44]  * bmo is all alone
[09:45] <bmo> [03:44]  *** You set a ban on bmo!*@*.
[09:45] <bmo> [03:44]  *** You remove the ban on bmo!*@*
[09:45] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[09:45] <dude_> AWOSDev: can u help me istall freenx?
[09:45] <fdoving> dude_: what's the problem?
[09:46] <dude_> fdoving: i can't install freenx, im not familiar installing ubuntu application
[09:47] <Brydenn33> any of you guys screw around with xgl + compiz?
[09:47] <fdoving> !xgl
[09:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:47] <Brydenn33> fdoving: i see that
[09:48] <Brydenn33> was curious if anyone has ever played with it
[09:48] <bmo> dude: what is the problem, not being able to install the .deb?
[09:48] <fdoving> dude_: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html
[09:49] <sks> ciao a tutti...
[09:49] <fdoving> !it
[09:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:49] <AWOSDev> Ahh crap ya beat me to the bot :P
[09:49] <bmo> sudo dpkg -i freenx_0.4.4+0.4.5-4_all.deb
[09:50] <sks> sono nuovo di kubuntu e linux in genere e avrei una domandina da newbie... Ho installato firefox e da shell lo posso lanciare, ma non mi appare nei menu di avvio.. lo devo configurare a mano o c' qualche tool? Grazie anticipate..
[09:50] <fdoving> !it
[09:50] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:51] <AWOSDev> sks
[09:51] <AWOSDev> sks sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:51] <fdoving> sks: did you install firefox and it doesn't appear in the menu?
[09:52] <sks> yes.. i can configure it manually, but i'd like to know if there is a tool that do this...
[09:52] <fdoving> sks: you can edit the menu with rightclicking on the kmenu icon -> menu editor
[09:53] <AWOSDev> kbuildsycoca
[09:53] <AWOSDev> sk: kbuildsycoca in the menu
[09:53] <AWOSDev> ***not the menu, in the Konsole sorry
[09:54] <sks> ok.. i understand... thanks...:)
[09:54] <AWOSDev> :)
[09:55] <rawrness> i think i just did something bad........
[09:55] <AWOSDev> rawrness uh-oh what
[09:55] <rawrness> used karama put out a app and now my kmenu bar don't show
[09:55] <bmo> it can't be as bad as rm -rf /
[09:56] <bmo> btw, don't do that
[09:56] <fdoving> rawrness: alt+f2 'dcop kicker kicker restart'
[09:56] <AWOSDev> bmo LOL
[09:56] <rawrness> oh thanks
[09:57] <rawrness> the applet must not like the kicker hiding......
[10:00] <bmo> you know
[10:00] <bmo> this is odd
[10:00] <AWOSDev> What?
[10:00] <bmo> I killed kicker just for giggles and i can't get it to restart
[10:00] <AWOSDev> oops
[10:01] <bmo> complains about not being able to connect to the X server
[10:01] <AWOSDev> How did you start X?
[10:01] <bmo> from boot
[10:01] <bmo> 19 days ago
[10:01] <bmo> heh
[10:02] <AWOSDev> same UID as you are trying to start it now?
[10:02] <bmo> yeah
[10:02] <AWOSDev> Hmm no clue
[10:02] <bmo> so, I will brb
[10:02] <AWOSDev> sounds like the *RESET* button is in order :P
[10:02] <AWOSDev> :)
[10:02] <bmo> restarting the desktop
[10:02] <AWOSDev> Okay
[10:04] <bmo> rehi
[10:04] <AWOSDev> Hi!
[10:04] <AWOSDev> :)
[10:06] <bmo> it's scanning for proxies
[10:07] <AWOSDev> Ew your getting attacked?
[10:07] <bmo> jeez, it was a bot.  4 ports, scanned multiple times...if it ain't open the first try, don't try again, dumbass.  write a better bot
[10:07] <AWOSDev> !bot
[10:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:08] <AWOSDev> Ooops sorry wrong channel
[10:08] <dude_> AWOSDev: : (
[10:08] <dude_> i can't
[10:08] <AWOSDev> dude_ what
[10:09] <bmo> !bot will darl mcbride go to jail?
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot will darl mcbride go to jail? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <bmo> well, it's not all knowing, is it?
[10:09] <AWOSDev> !bot
[10:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:10] <AWOSDev> Well he claims to be :P
[10:10] <dude_> i can't install frenx
[10:11] <bmo> what is the output of dpkg, dude_?
[10:14] <bmo> freenx depends on nxagent and expect
[10:14] <dude_> port
[10:15] <dude_> issue
[10:16] <octan> any norwegian in here that uses mythtv ?
[10:16] <chimaera_> re.
[10:17] <ilgattotrino> hi there
[10:17] <chimaera_> can someone give me a quick hint how to change the fstab? ince when are UUIDs used and where to get them? besides that, i changed one device from XFS to ext3 but linux still tries to mount it using XFS..
[10:17] <bmo> edit using your fave editor?
[10:17] <bmo> sudo pico /etc/fstab
[10:18] <chimaera_> i know how to edit.. but now how.. got me? ;)
[10:18] <chimaera_> pls read teh question again.
[10:18] <AWOSDev> man fstab
[10:18] <AWOSDev> in the Konsole
[10:18] <dude_> bmo: what is the first step?
[10:19] <bmo> haha
[10:19] <ilgattotrino> chimaera_: if there's no option for the XFS file system you can simply change XFS to ext3 i think..
[10:19] <fdoving> bmo: add the repository and use apt-get.
[10:19] <chimaera_> oh boy. man fstab still doesn't explain the system kubuntu uses now (see UUID). o kinow how to do it the old way, but wondering what has changed..
[10:19] <chimaera_> no, just changing XFS to ext3 within fstab doesn't work
[10:20] <ilgattotrino> wow
[10:20] <dude_> bmo: what is the first step?
[10:20] <bmo> first step of what?
[10:21] <dude_> installing freenx
[10:21] <fdoving> chimaera_: what's the problem?
[10:22] <ilgattotrino> can someone tell me if a radeon mobility x1400 (dell inspiron) can work? i'v tried all the howtos but still nothing...
[10:25] <bmo> dude_ I am trying to install it myself to see how to get it installed correctly on my system, but even adding the repository means that it is choking on the amd64 (my arch) packages.gz file
[10:28] <bmo> I am obviously doing something wrong
[10:28] <livingdaylight> I feel VERY Edgy about the name of the impending latest release of (k)Ubuntu
[10:29] <AWOSDev> why?
[10:29] <livingdaylight> is it an auspicious name?
[10:29] <livingdaylight> i mean Edgy? sounds dangerous
[10:30] <livingdaylight> doesn't give me the feeling - Rock Solid
[10:30] <AWOSDev> Egdy Eft...it sounds almost as weird as Hoary Hedgehog.
[10:30] <livingdaylight> at least a hedgehog is harmless and we know what it is
[10:30] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[10:30] <dude_> bmo: what does it mean?
[10:30] <bmo> ok, I am not doing anything wrong.  it's just not there for my architecture
[10:31] <livingdaylight> Edgy Eft? what the 'iffin is it? or does it mean?!
[10:31] <livingdaylight> whoever is coming up with these names should either start smoking less  of it or more of it... i don't know which
[10:31] <AWOSDev> Hehehehehe
[10:31] <AWOSDev> ROFL
[10:32] <livingdaylight> :)
[10:32] <livingdaylight> how was nascar racing?
[10:32] <livingdaylight> we don't have that here in Europe
[10:33] <AWOSDev> Crazy
[10:33] <AWOSDev> very crazy
[10:33] <AWOSDev> I think only like 20 of 43 cars even made it through the night
[10:33] <livingdaylight> LOL
[10:33] <AWOSDev> But my favourite driver is still leading the Championship points
[10:33] <livingdaylight> UBuntu?
[10:34] <livingdaylight> teh..
[10:34] <livingdaylight> is that where they just drive around in a circle?
[10:34] <AWOSDev> YES...
[10:34] <livingdaylight> ^^
[10:34] <AWOSDev> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASCAR
[10:34] <AWOSDev> also see
[10:35] <AWOSDev> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Burton and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Harvick
[10:35] <AWOSDev> for my two drivers, 1st and 4th in points
[10:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[10:36] <AWOSDev> Hello MilhousePunkRock
[10:36] <bmo> errh, ok, now that I have a working repository, how do I get its public key?
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Though I upgraded to the Edgy beta... :-(
[10:36] <AWOSDev> bmo just screw the PGP key and use it
[10:36] <bmo> oh, ok
[10:37] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[10:37] <AWOSDev> if you *need* the PHP key it's on the Wiki
[10:37] <AWOSDev> *PGP
[10:37] <AWOSDev> !sources
[10:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> The problem was supposed to be fixed at the new kernel stage, somewhat related to my video chip...
[10:37] <AWOSDev> or maybe !source-o-matic
[10:38] <bmo> http://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/06/21/install-freenx-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake does NOT work!
[10:38] <AWOSDev> On AMD64 no
[10:38] <AWOSDev> try it on a 32bit :)
[10:39] <AWOSDev> * bmo needs to go on eBay and get one :)
[10:40] <bmo> ha ha
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning TheGateKeeper
[10:41] <bmo> help help I'm being repressed!
[10:41] <TheGateKeeper> good morning MilhousePunkRock how are you doing?
[10:42] <rawrness>    XD
[10:42] <bmo> or should I just go back to ubuntu 32 bit on amd64?
[10:42] <bmo> meh
[10:42] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: Fine, actually... That will change though, since I am looking into the powermanagement again...
[10:45] <dna_> Hello, I cant get my prism2.5 card working in latest edgy :( I think it worked in knot1 but when I upgraded the card changed name from eth1 to wlan0 (driver change?) and since that I cant get it working. I can scan for networks using various tools but not authenticate with a ap since iwconfig wlan0 essid something gives "set failed on device wlan0;  operation not supported" :(
[10:46] <dna_> sudo iwconfig ofcourse
[10:46] <dude> question: what is JRE
[10:46] <chimaera_> java runtime environment
[10:46] <dude> frostwire can't run beacuse of the jre
[10:46] <gzevspero> Hi, I'm trying to browse my gmail account using konversation but the page won't load properly - my contact list doesn't appear, and certain buttons also aren't displayed correctly. Any suggestions on how I could fix this?
[10:47] <dude> i downloaded the jre installer
[10:47] <dude> i can't install JRE
[10:47] <gzevspero> no - trying to browse gmail using konqueror, sorry
[10:47] <bmo> oh
[10:47] <bmo> hah
[10:48] <rawrness> @lert dude
[10:48] <rawrness> nope
[10:48] <dude> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[10:48] <dude> how do i install that one
[10:49] <rawrness> @lart rawrness
[10:50] <dna_> Is there a better channel for asking wireless questions in kubuntu?
[10:51] <rawrness> any idea how to make this work http://www.bootsplash.org/index.php/Welcome_to_the_graphical_world_of_Linux
[10:52] <AWOSDev> gzevspero try going
[10:52] <AWOSDev> Setting->Configure Konqueror...
[10:52] <bmo> gzevspero, try changing your browser ID to mozilla
[10:52] <AWOSDev> go under Browser ID
[10:53] <bmo> I did it and it stopped complaining
[10:53] <AWOSDev> change to Mozilla 1.7.1 on Windows XP for domain: mail.google.com
[10:53] <AWOSDev> works every time :)
[10:53] <bmo> AWOSDev: even quicker, it's under TOOLS in the menu bar
[10:53] <AWOSDev> bmo, my Tools menu doesn't work anymore for some reason :(
[10:53] <bmo> TOOLS "change browser ID"
[10:54] <bmo> odd, AWOSDev
[10:54] <bmo> since I use Pop3 on gmail, it took 3 tries to get the right password
[10:54] <bmo> cuz if you use pop3, you never ever have to type it again
[10:54] <bmo> heh
[10:56] <TheGateKeeper> dude:  that's what you want to do ---> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[10:56] <hunger_> Any idea how I can stop kde-guidance-powermanager from offering the hibernate option?
[10:56] <TheGateKeeper> dude: to install rpm's use alien, but be warned they may well NOT work
[10:56] <gzevspero> bmo, awosdev: that works, thanks :)
[10:57] <AWOSDev> gzevspero, np
[10:57] <AWOSDev> :)
[10:57] <bmo> if you use alien on rpms, the packages may go in "surprising" directions
[10:57] <dude> :(
[10:57] <bmo> but it's worth trying
[10:58] <bmo> you can always dpkg -e the aliened package
[10:58] <haffe> Hello.
[10:58] <gzevspero> also, how do I access synaptic to install the gnome environment from kubuntu? I can't find it, is it called something else in kde?
[10:58] <haffe> I am thinking about upgrading a dapper machin to edgy. How stable is edgy now-a-days?
[10:58] <haffe> gzevspero: It's called adept.
[10:59] <bmo> gzevspero: I think that the gnome environment is under the meta-package of gnome-desktop but I am not sure
[10:59] <AWOSDev> ubuntu-desktop
[10:59] <bmo> haffe: adept and synaptic do the same things
[10:59] <haffe> Yes?
[10:59] <AWOSDev> Yeah but /me likes Synaptic better
[10:59] <haffe> Wasn't that the question?
[11:00] <gzevspero> I found add/remove programs, is that the same as adept? From what I remember in ubuntu you had add/remove programs but then if you chose synaptic you had a lot more installation options from there
[11:00] <AWOSDev> Yes
[11:01] <bmo> yes
[11:01] <bmo> kdesu synaptic
[11:01] <dude> waaahhh...i quit
[11:01] <bmo> if it ain't there, kdesu apt-get install synaptic
[11:01] <bmo> heh
[11:02] <bmo> dude: I quit too.  us amd64 people are discriminated against
[11:02] <AWOSDev> AHHHH kdesu
[11:02] <AWOSDev> darn someone in #Ubuntu needed that and I thought it was ksudo
[11:02] <dude> pls help me to install jre
[11:03] <AWOSDev> !jre
[11:03] <dude> and i really ned to use remote desktop but i cant get it working....
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <bmo> http://java.com:80/en/download/manual.jsp
[11:03] <AWOSDev> !java
[11:03] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:03] <xavier> hi
[11:03] <AWOSDev> dude look there
[11:03] <bmo> make sure you get the 32 bit java, even on amd64 to get the right jre
[11:04] <dude> ya there is an instruction but, i cant follow it
[11:04] <dude> :)
[11:04] <bmo> why sun does that, I do not know
[11:04] <xavier> i installed guard dog .. now i cannot access the web... i have added a tick for HTTP and HTTPS anf FTP and IRC .. so far only IRC is working. any help?
[11:04] <dude> waaahhh, pls help me
[11:04] <AWOSDev> xavier, thank goodness that IRC is working :)
[11:04] <xavier> i am using pppoe
[11:04] <gzevspero> So I typed the kdesu apt-get install synaptic but it doesn't show anything... does this type of installation just run in the background? How do I know when it's done? Also, I searched for gnome from adept but all it came up with was gnome translator... how do find and install gnome desktop?
[11:05] <AWOSDev> !tell dude about java
[11:05] <xavier> haha .. i cannot access google nothing
[11:05] <bmo> gzevspero now type kdesu synaptic
[11:05] <xavier> using konqueror web browser
[11:05] <bmo> it should come up
[11:05] <gzevspero> command synaptic could not be found
[11:05] <AWOSDev> gzevspero --------- ubuntu-desktop is what it's called
[11:06] <bmo> the apt-get should have happened in the background
[11:06] <xavier> can someone help me open the HTTP port? am using Guard Dog
[11:07] <bmo> open a console and type sudo apt-get install synaptic, gzefs
[11:07] <bmo> er
[11:07] <bmo> gzevs
[11:07] <bmo> then type sudo (in the same term) synaptic
[11:08] <bmo> then search for ubuntu-desktop like awos said
[11:09] <bmo> xavier, we are not ignoring you, just that I don't have a clue about guarddog
[11:09] <xavier> ok.. do u know which lines to edit in my iptables?
[11:10] <bmo> guarddog should handle it, xavier
[11:10] <dude> i quit i quit i quit i quit
[11:10] <gzevspero> ? I do searches in adept for ubuntu, desktop, and ubuntu-desktop, but it doesn't come up... I type the synaptic installation command and then sudo synaptic, but it doesn't even ask me for a password
[11:10] <xavier> how come i have ticked all http and irc ports .. and only irc works
[11:10] <AWOSDev> dude, don't give up
[11:10] <bmo> http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/manual2/using-guarddog.html#id2406177
[11:10] <dude> AWOSDev: first time in linux
[11:10] <dude> :(
[11:11] <AWOSDev> dude, right, don't give up
[11:11] <dude> i don't know what to do
[11:11] <xavier> is it safe to just disable firewall? am not running any servers .. just the default kubuntu install
[11:11] <AWOSDev> dude, if you give up, you will never use Linux again.
[11:11] <bmo> because if you have recently typed in a password for sudo, you don't get asked again, gzevspero
[11:11] <AWOSDev> dude, I personally say screw the Remote Desktop
[11:11] <xavier> AWOSDev: i have such moments a lot .. experiencing one now lol
[11:11] <xavier> no internet for me .. boo hoo
[11:12] <gzevspero> ah... still it doesn't come up with synaptic though, no message given
[11:12] <xavier> this is my 3rd day using linux EVER!
[11:12] <AWOSDev> xavier, by default, Kubuntu comes with zero ports open, so yes, disable all firewalls and blow raspberry at all the Windows lusers.
[11:12] <dude> AWOSDev: 2 last things i need: frostwire or any other peer to peer program and remote desktop program
[11:12] <xavier> i am more concerned about LAN hacking .. i mean i am on a WAN setup by my isp and using pppoe to connect
[11:13] <AWOSDev> dude, again, try Ktorrent
[11:13] <xavier> just did not want any of my folders visible on the LAN
[11:13] <bmo> xavier, I am using firestarter for the firewall.  try that
[11:13] <bmo> oh wait
[11:14] <bmo> uh what zone are you working in, in guarddog, xavier?
[11:14] <xavier> the problem is .. even if i uninstall guarddog it runs some scripts at startup .. so even after removing guard dog i cannot access the WWW
[11:14] <xavier> it shows me two zones local and internet
[11:14] <bmo> configure for the internet
[11:15] <xavier> i have  enabled http on both
[11:15] <bmo> k
[11:15] <xavier> i use PPPOE .. do i have to do anything special?
[11:15] <bmo> no
[11:15] <xavier> its amazing IRC works !! lol
[11:15] <bmo> but I am curious about the scripts that you talk about
[11:15] <bmo> what script?
[11:16] <xavier> when i boot kubuntu ... i get a line saying .. configuring guard dog something
[11:16] <raul12> hi can any 1 siggest good fire wall 4 my kubuntu ???
[11:16] <raul12> suggest
[11:16] <AWOSDev> !firewall
[11:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[11:16] <AWOSDev> !info firestarter
[11:16] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[11:16] <xavier> lol raul .. been there done that .. would not recommend :)
[11:16] <raul12> so whats ur recomendation
[11:17] <raul12> ?
[11:17] <raul12> ^_^] 
[11:17] <xavier> ask the experts .. kubuntu is secure by default
[11:17] <raul12> nope not that secure as u think it might be
[11:17] <xavier> but i want to run some services in the future .. so installed guarddog .. am repenting lol
[11:17] <dude> what is Ktorrent?
[11:17] <AWOSDev> !info ktorrent
[11:17] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[11:17] <rosen37> Hello
[11:18] <AWOSDev> Hello rosen37.
[11:18] <rosen37> PLease how to remove the name of the last user logged in the kdm?
[11:18] <xavier> AWOSDev: how do i access my windows network without serving any of my folders?
[11:18] <AWOSDev> xavier, samba.
[11:18] <xavier> i mean client only
[11:18] <AWOSDev> !samba
[11:18] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:18] <raul12> ok
[11:18] <xavier> not file server
[11:18] <AWOSDev> smbclient.
[11:18] <AWOSDev> part of samba.
[11:18] <AWOSDev> Just don't share anything.
[11:19] <xavier> okay .. is it secure? i mean
[11:19] <raul12> well have sometimes finding hard to complie
[11:19] <xavier> can someone hack thru lan into my system?
[11:19] <raul12> software from source
[11:19] <raul12> i386
[11:19] <AWOSDev> xavier, through LAN?
[11:19] <AWOSDev> What seedy people are on your LAN?
[11:19] <raul12> software on x34 machines
[11:19] <bmo> xavier: it's really difficult to "hack through the lan" to your computer if you don't offer any services
[11:19] <AWOSDev> x34?
[11:19] <xavier> yeah .. like in windows i have heard of netbios hacking
[11:19] <AWOSDev> I think you mean x86?
[11:19] <raul12> x64
[11:19] <raul12> lol
[11:19] <AWOSDev> oh
[11:19] <AWOSDev> LOL
[11:19] <bmo> xavier: don't worry about it
[11:20] <bmo> seriously
[11:20] <xavier> so installing samba wont hurt me right?
[11:20] <AWOSDev> xavier, Yes!
[11:20] <AWOSDev> It won't hurt at all!
[11:20] <xavier> now about my google!! help someone
[11:21] <raul12> well physically might not hurt u
[11:21] <xavier> i cannot even ping google from konsole
[11:21] <raul12> ^_^
[11:21] <xavier> hehe
[11:21] <bmo> xavier: the first step to security is to see if you have cooties:  bash$ sudo nmap -vv localhost -P0 -O
[11:21] <dude> what are the functions of Ktorrent?
[11:21] <raul12> but mentally it will
[11:21] <xavier> okay running that
[11:21] <xavier> !cooties
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cooties - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <raul12> well will any out torrent u used on win
[11:21] <raul12> machine
[11:21] <raul12> @dude
[11:22] <dude> what is the main use of Ktorrent
[11:22] <bmo> to share files, dude
[11:22] <xavier> nmap: command not found
[11:22] <bmo> and to get really large files, like linux distros
[11:22] <dude> is it like limewire?
[11:22] <bmo> it's like limewire but higher performance
[11:22] <raul12> no its like bit torrent
[11:22] <bmo> gnutella is slower
[11:23] <raul12> in windows
[11:23] <dude> higher performance than limewire and gnutella?
[11:23] <raul12> but guntella is goood
[11:23] <xavier> bmo: nmap: command not found
[11:23] <bmo> apt-get install nmap
[11:23] <raul12> well torrne r different
[11:23] <raul12> torrent
[11:23] <bmo> the homepage for nmap is www.insecure.org
[11:24] <dude> any other remote desktop program available?
[11:24] <AWOSDev> insecure.org?  really?  what a domain name... :)
[11:24] <raul12> @bmo better install it though adept
[11:24] <raul12> nmap
[11:24] <rawrness> torrent speeds are fickel
[11:24] <xavier> bmo: lol dude .. i cannot access the WWW !! help me
[11:24] <raul12> then kmap
[11:24] <bmo> stop the firewall
[11:24] <raul12> what happen
[11:24] <rawrness> depends on how many people are seeding a file  and how many are leching
[11:24] <xavier> bmo E: Invalid operation nmap
[11:24] <raul12> @xavier
[11:24] <bmo> apt-get install nmap, not apt-get nmap
[11:25] <xavier> oops
[11:25] <bmo> xavier, stop the firewall.  sudo killall -9 guarddog
[11:25] <xavier> yay .. firewall stopped .. google.com here i come lol
[11:25] <dude> any other remote desktop program available?
[11:26] <bmo> SIGKILL, if used, goes last because the grim reaper bears no doubt,
[11:26] <bmo> cares not if you have prepared your way, and leaves crushed Zagnut
[11:26] <bmo> nodules in the carpet...
[11:27] <xavier> hey i ran nmap
[11:27] <bmo> and remove guarddog from /etc/init.d
[11:27] <xavier> port 631/tcp open .. what is that?
[11:27] <dude> one last application
[11:27] <bmo> IPP, I think
[11:27] <bmo> printer
[11:27] <xavier> wht for?
[11:27] <xavier> i dont have a prionter
[11:28] <bmo> then remove cups
[11:28] <bmo> if you want
[11:28] <bmo> but nobody hacks printer ports
[11:28] <xavier> but will pdf still work?
[11:28] <bmo> yes
[11:28] <xavier> i mean .. writing a pdf file .. without printer services
[11:28] <AWOSDev> In oowriter?
[11:28] <xavier> how do i close the printer port?
[11:29] <xavier> AWOSDev:  yea
[11:29] <AWOSDev> xavier, I have no printer.  it works :)
[11:29] <xavier> AWOSDev: installing samba now
[11:29] <bmo> you don't need cups for pdfs
[11:29] <xavier> no i mean with printer port or IPP service disabled
[11:30] <bmo> writing a pdf file to disk does not depend on printer ports
[11:30] <AWOSDev> Well g'night all.
[11:30] <bmo> g'night
[11:30] <bmo> er
[11:30] <bmo> g'mornin'
[11:30] <xavier> ok.. how can i close the printer service .. i need to make this as fast as possible .. still keeping kde
[11:30] <bmo> it's 5am
[11:30] <bmo> apt-get remove cups
[11:30] <rosen37> mmh what is the time UTC currntly?
[11:31] <bmo> it's 5am eastern standard time
[11:31] <AWOSDev> Yes it's 5:29am here.
[11:31] <bmo> er
[11:31] <bmo> 5:30
[11:31] <AWOSDev> Daylight time
[11:31] <AWOSDev> not standard time
[11:31] <bmo> yeah, daylight time
[11:31] <xavier> my ram usage is almost 550 MB out of 768 MB .. how do i make my system more lean ?
[11:31] <AWOSDev> Standard is at the end of the month :P
[11:31] <AWOSDev> xavier...heh
[11:31] <bmo> xavier: do not worry about ram usage
[11:31] <bmo> because "free ram is bad ram"
[11:31] <AWOSDev> xavier I frequently go wayyyyyyy > my RAM it's all good it's fine it'll still run fast
[11:31] <rosen37> I m asking the GMT time
[11:32] <bmo> GMT is 9:30
[11:32] <bmo> ish
[11:32] <xavier> it starts to get realllll suggish when it goes beyond that .. and my swap is always ZERO
[11:32] <rosen37> on my kubuntu it s 10:30 :'(
[11:32] <xavier> sluggish*
[11:32] <xavier> whoa
[11:33] <bmo> http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/
[11:33] <xavier> SAMBA opened some ports of mine
[11:33] <bmo> yes
[11:33] <bmo> they need to be there for samba
[11:33] <rosen37> bmo: on my debian station it s 9:30 and on the ubuntu it s 10:30?
[11:33] <xavier> PORT    STATE SERVICE
[11:33] <xavier> 139/tcp open  netbios-ssn
[11:33] <xavier> 445/tcp open  microsoft-ds
[11:33] <xavier> 631/tcp open  ipp
[11:33] <xavier> netbios?? the windows evil?
[11:33] <AWOSDev> rosen37 yeah Ubuntu is freaky times
[11:33] <Healot> ?
[11:33] <bmo> rosen: sudo ntpdate tick.usno.navy.mil
[11:34] <bmo> or any other timeserver you want
[11:34] <bmo> xavier, that is correct if you want samba
[11:34] <bmo> it is not a security risk, though
[11:34] <xavier> but the port is open
[11:34] <bmo> yes
[11:34] <dude> tnx 4 the help guys...
[11:34] <xavier> and microsoft-ds?
[11:35] <bmo> yes
[11:35] <AWOSDev> Directory Service
[11:35] <xavier> need more info
[11:35] <rawrness> things  your mother wouln't let you do in your youth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdF6M2FBKG4
[11:35] <bmo> those are the msft ports, you need those for samba
[11:35] <AWOSDev> e.g. the others hackers dream
[11:35] <AWOSDev> but
[11:35] <AWOSDev> don't worry
[11:35] <xavier> how do i disable my samba shares .. cannot c any icon to click
[11:35] <AWOSDev> You won't be hacked because you aren't sharing anything.
[11:35] <rosen37> AWOSDev: ah yeah ok
[11:35] <rosen37> It is synchro now thx
[11:35] <AWOSDev> Huh?
[11:35] <AWOSDev> what is?
[11:35] <AWOSDev> huh?
[11:35] <fdoving> xavier: kmenu -> system settings -> sharing
[11:36] <xavier> oh .. was looking for something like Samba :)
[11:36] <AWOSDev> rosen37, bmo gave you the ntpdate command not me :)
[11:36] <bmo> heh
[11:37] <rosen37> oops sorry
[11:37] <bmo> btw, that was the US Naval Obseratory ntp server
[11:37] <bmo> one of them
[11:37] <bmo> the other is named, obviously, tock
[11:37] <rosen37> bmo: yes but I did it on my internal ntp server
[11:37] <rosen37> I forgot to do that I need to isntall a deamon to synchro with the internal ntp server
[11:37] <AWOSDev> tick and tock hehe
[11:38] <zorglu_> q. i have a large file compressed a .bin / .cue, how can i decompress it ?
[11:39] <bmo> dude: nmap is there for good or evil.  use it mostly to see if you are offering services you didn't mean to install.  you can, though, use it to see if other people have their pants around their ankles, like windows users....
[11:39] <xavier> ok . i am in sharing ... folders /tmp/ is being shared
[11:40] <fdoving> !bin
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <fdoving> !bincue
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bincue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <David_Edmundson> zorglu_: they're CD images aren't they?
[11:40] <fdoving> zorglu_: you can use bchunk
[11:40] <zorglu_> fdoving: ok thanks lookin
[11:40] <xavier> hey local network browsing is disabled
[11:40] <fdoving> zorglu_: you can use bchunk to convert it so a iso. then you can mount it if you want to.
[11:40] <bmo> enable it, xavier
[11:40] <AWOSDev> bmo, please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BEANS :)
[11:41] <AWOSDev> bmo, I don't think anybody thought of using nmap for evil until you said something
[11:41] <bmo> HAHAHAAHA
[11:41] <xavier> i mean .. it says kcmlisa could not be found
[11:41] <David_Edmundson> erm..I think everyone thinks of evil when they see nmap
[11:41] <David_Edmundson> or ettercap
[11:41] <David_Edmundson> or metasploit
[11:41] <bmo> AWOSDev: one day I learned about portscanning, and I promptly MAPPED THE ENTIRE LAN OF IDS.NET
[11:41] <bmo> I got a phone call
[11:42] <fdoving> David_Edmundson: network admins use it to keep their networks secure.
[11:42] <bmo> "Dan, wtf were you doing?"
[11:42] <bmo> HAHAHA
[11:42] <David_Edmundson> fantastic.
[11:42] <fdoving> you have to know the evil ways in order to be able to secure yourself.
[11:42] <AWOSDev> bmo hehe
[11:43] <AWOSDev> it's called ethical hacking or something
[11:43] <AWOSDev> doing it on your own computer
[11:43] <David_Edmundson> or white hacking
[11:43] <AWOSDev> hehe
[11:43] <AWOSDev> anyway
[11:43] <David_Edmundson> there's lots of money in it apparently
[11:43] <bmo> I had a shell account on ids.net, which was connected to their lan, so obviously I ran nmap on the entire lan
[11:44] <David_Edmundson> 8-)
[11:44] <AWOSDev> Oh I bet you got kickban'ed from them
[11:44] <AWOSDev> *really fast*!
[11:44] <David_Edmundson> next time run -P0 it's a bit more subtle
[11:44] <fdoving> anyway.. #kubuntu-offtopic *hint*
[11:44] <AWOSDev> 5:43am = wayyyy slepy
[11:44] <AWOSDev> sleepy
[11:44] <AWOSDev> G'night all
[11:44] <fdoving> nite awosdev.
[11:44] <xavier> tx AWOSDev
[11:44] <AWOSDev> I'ma have a surprise for you all
[11:44] <David_Edmundson> night dude
[11:44] <xavier> nite
[11:44] <bmo> night
[11:44] <AWOSDev> xavier np
[11:44] <bmo> and goodmorning
[11:45] <AWOSDev> I'm going to install Kubuntu on my Pentium 100 with 40MB of RAM and see if it'll work
[11:45] <bmo> AHHAHAH
[11:45] <AWOSDev> Good morning to you too bmo.
[11:45] <bmo> server edition
[11:45] <fdoving> you'll need the alternate cd. :)
[11:45] <fdoving> or the server edition :)
[11:45] <AWOSDev> Why do I *always* get heckled from having a Pentium 100?
[11:45] <AWOSDev> I love her.
[11:45] <AWOSDev> Compaq LTE 5150
[11:45] <AWOSDev> passed QA on 11 Oct 1996.
[11:46] <AWOSDev> ha
[11:46] <AWOSDev> oops
[11:46] <AWOSDev> ah
[11:46] <xavier> i screwed up my kde yesterday royally . .after i installed xgl and compiz
[11:46] <bmo> I have some ram sticks for that, awos
[11:46] <bmo> PC100
[11:46] <AWOSDev> bmo, LTE 5150?
[11:46] <AWOSDev> really?/
[11:46] <AWOSDev> TRULY?
[11:46] <bmo> yeah
[11:46] <bmo> heheh
[11:46] <AWOSDev> Send 'em over!
[11:46] <xavier> had to reverse alll my steps taken .. no window titles .. no borders nothing
[11:46] <bmo> I have to get them from a friend, though
[11:46] <AWOSDev> Are you serious?
[11:46] <bmo> probably still wrapped in aluminum foil
[11:47] <AWOSDev> wow
[11:47] <AWOSDev> send 'em to me!
[11:47] <bmo> ok
[11:47] <AWOSDev> Andrew <dot> R <period> Wilcox <at> Gmail <.> com
[11:47] <xavier> one question .. how do i browse the lan computers ?
[11:47] <AWOSDev> xavier, try smbclient
[11:48] <AWOSDev> anyway really g'night
[11:48] <xavier> smbclient usage:
[11:48] <AWOSDev> bmo just pop me an email and I'll send you my address
[11:48] <AWOSDev> Uh, smbclient \\\\computername\\sharename
[11:49] <AWOSDev> xavier
[11:49] <bmo> sented
[11:49] <AWOSDev> xavier also check "man smbclient"
[11:49] <flaccid> smbclient //host/share
[11:49] <AWOSDev> bmo Thank you!!!!!!!!
[11:49] <xavier> AWOSDev: but what if i do not know computername .. i mean just browse like network neighborhood
[11:49] <flaccid> its not windows :)
[11:49] <AWOSDev> xavier, well then you're kinda out of luck
[11:49] <AWOSDev> Goodnight.
[11:49] <mike> is KDE better than gnome?
[11:49] <xavier> ok
[11:49] <AWOSDev> mike, YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:49] <bmo> kde is always better than gnome
[11:49] <mike> oww ^^
[11:50] <AWOSDev> heh
[11:50] <fdoving> !!!!!
[11:50] <bmo> kde ioslaves prove it
[11:50] <fdoving> !!!
[11:50] <David_Edmundson> KDE is _different_ to gnome
[11:50] <David_Edmundson> for some people it is better
[11:50] <xavier> is there another program which let me browse my network .. without knowing hostname?
[11:50] <AWOSDev> GNOME sucks IMHO
[11:50] <mike> ic
[11:50] <AWOSDev> anyway g'night already!
[11:50] <bmo> hahaha
[11:50] <David_Edmundson> browse what on your network?
[11:50] <AWOSDev> stop dragging me back in!
[11:50] <bmo> GO!
[11:50] <xavier> computers with shares
[11:50] <David_Edmundson> samba shares?
[11:50] <xavier> ok bye AWOSDev :)
[11:50] <AWOSDev> David_Edmundson, browse Windows SMB clients
[11:50] <AWOSDev> xavier bye
[11:50] <xavier> yes David_Edmundson
[11:50] <AWOSDev> bmo bye
[11:50] <mike> i use ubuntu but then i uninstall gnome then switch to kde
[11:51] <David_Edmundson> open Konq, goto smb:/
[11:51] <xavier> ok david
[11:51] <xavier> cool
[11:51] <xavier> ty vm David_Edmundson
[11:51] <bmo> you don't have to uninstall gnome to use kde
[11:52] <bmo> you just select kde from the gdm or kdm screen
[11:52] <mike> where can i get repositories for kubuntu?
[11:52] <David_Edmundson> (note you can't have both kdm and gdm..though apt handles that for you)
[11:52] <bmo> they are the same as ubuntu, mike
[11:52] <mike> ohh ic
[11:53] <David_Edmundson> btw, does anyone know how if you can transfer video's to iPod without gtkpod which is terrible to use?
[11:54] <David_Edmundson> the kio-slave doesn't support it yet, so I imagine not.
[11:54] <bmo> put linux on the ipod, dave
[11:54] <bmo> hehehehe
[11:54] <xavier> david .. is there any program which looks for any shared folders in smb:/ computers?
[11:55] <David_Edmundson> smb4k
[11:55] <xavier> David_Edmundson: like lanspider?
[11:55] <David_Edmundson> "apt-cache search samba browse"
[11:55] <xavier> ok
[11:55] <zorglu_> q. it tries to mount a file.iso via the loop device, from the doc i got i need to do a "sudo insmod loop.o" but loop.o is not on my disk. "locate loop.o" provide nothing
[11:55] <zorglu_> any suggestion
[11:55] <David_Edmundson> run "sudo modprobe loop" instead
[11:56] <zorglu_> thanks
[11:56] <David_Edmundson> zorglu_: what they both say is load the "driver"/module which allows me to mount an iso
[11:56] <David_Edmundson> insmod inserts a file as a module, modprobe loads a module from the modules path
[11:59] <aztun> hi Linux_Galore
[11:59] <aztun> u remember I kopete didnt work yesterday???
[11:59] <aztun> or friday...
[12:00] <aztun> I think it was a problem with the package
[12:00] <aztun> because yesterday I updated with a new kopete package
[12:00] <aztun> and now everything works great
[12:00] <bmo> dave_edmunson: have you tried gnupod-tools from the command line?
[12:01] <pexi> aztun: i have problems with msn protocol an kopete, had you the same problems??
[12:01] <zorglu_> pffff it is real hard to get those .bin :)
[12:02] <aztun> no pexi
[12:02] <aztun> when I updated to last kde kopete  crashed
[12:02] <aztun> when I tried to go into kopetes config
[12:03] <aztun> when since I updated yesterday with a new kopetes package everything works great
[12:03] <UDZGuru> hi there
[12:03] <zorglu_> David_Edmundson: ok, my mistake was in the .o instead of .ko
[12:03] <pexi> i have too the last kde, but i use kubuntu edgy
[12:03] <UDZGuru> is there a german kubuntu channel as well?
[12:03] <aztun> I am on dapper
[12:03] <bmo> oh nevermind, it looks like gtkpod is a frontend to gnupod
[12:05] <xavier> hey when i installed samba ... imy computer name on the windows network says "Xavier server Samba, Ubuntu" .. how do i change that?
[12:07] <fdoving> xavier: kmenu -> run command 'kdesu kate /etc/samba/smb.conf' search for 'server string ='
[12:07] <xavier> ty fdoving
[12:09] <xavier> how do i restart samba to c the changes?
[12:09] <fdoving> xavier: save and exit when you have changed it to what you want, you'll need to restart samba (kmenu -> system settings -> Advanced (at the very top) -> System Services)
[12:09] <enbor> Hello
[12:10] <xavier> wow u're fast
[12:10] <xavier> fdoving:  wow u're fast
[12:10] <fdoving> xavier: i know what you have to do, i started typing some time ago :)
[12:10] <sF|Xemanth> xavier: in console /etc/init.d/samba restart or was it smb
[12:10] <xavier> hehe ty
[12:10] <xavier> ty sF|Xemanth
[12:10] <enbor> I have a problem with kubuntu, with my printer and a usb key (both works great in Ubuntu), can anybody help me?
[12:12] <xavier> problem
[12:12] <xavier>  * Starting Samba daemons...                                                    install: cannot change owner and/or group of `/var/run/samba': Operation not permitted
[12:12] <blujay> How can I capture a child process's PID in a Bash script?
[12:13] <Skrot-> xavier: Do it as sudo
[12:14] <Skrot-> as/with
[12:14] <zorglu_> ok i must do something wrong with this mount loop, i got 2 .bin and none is able to mount as iso
[12:15] <xavier> ok
[12:15] <rawrness> night all sleep well  and wake...
[12:17] <enbor> does someone know how to fix the problem with usb keys? it is detected but you can open it
[12:17] <enbor> *yot can't
[12:18] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnome) ?
[12:18] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnome) ?
[12:18] <infornography> How can I install the extra codecs? The documentation says its the libxine-extracodecs package in multiverse, but I see no such package
[12:19] <infornography> gp_: In my experiance both run at roughly the same speed. xubunty is somewhat quicker though
[12:19] <fdoving> gp_: not that i'm aware of.
[12:20] <aztun> is there any game similar to starcraft for linux?
[12:22] <fdoving> aztun: you can try boson
[12:23] <fdoving> aztun: http://boson.eu.org/
[12:23] <fdoving> it's in the repos.
[12:25] <fdoving> infornography: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-775cf32093c1bb05fef1e24465c9be753d760275
[12:26] <aztun> thx fdoving
[12:27] <enbor> bye
[12:27] <xavier> hey even after disabling firewall ... i cannot access HTTP .. irc works
[12:27] <xavier> had installed GuardDog
[12:27] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnome) ?
[12:27] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnome) ?
[12:28] <xavier> could not access the internet .. so disabled firewall .. i cannot access the internet
[12:28] <xavier> konq says : Unknown host www.google.com
[12:28] <infornography> I have added the multiverse, it's just not in there
[12:28] <TheGateKeeper> gp_: I would imagine they are much the same
[12:28] <TheGateKeeper> after all they just use different desktops
[12:29] <fdoving> infornography: then you have forgotten to run 'fetch updates' in adept, or 'sudo apt-get update' in konsole.
[12:29] <TheGateKeeper> (k)ubuntu has some nice attributes, but speed ain't one of them
[12:30] <infornography> No, I havent forgotten anything, the package is not there
[12:30] <mike> does it mean that kubuntu si slow?
[12:31] <tom__> hi
[12:31] <infornography> Never mind
[12:31] <tom__> can someone help me out please, what i want to do is, everytime my usb stick is mounted, synchronise a certain folder with a folder on my hard drive, does anyone know how to do this?
[12:34] <xavier> i cannot access the ineternet .. i have disabled the firewall from guarddog .. help!
[12:35] <xavier> samba is running in system services ... but when i type smb:// in konqueror .. i get transfered to / (root)
[12:38] <tom__> anyone?
[12:39] <fdoving> xavier: what about smb:/ ?
[12:39] <xavier> when i type smb:// in konqueror .. i get transfered to / (root)
[12:40] <fdoving> xavier: what about smb:/ ?
[12:40] <xavier> i cannot access my lan
[12:41] <xavier> i want to be able to browse the computers on my network .. there are a lot of them .. but i cannot remember most by name
[12:41] <fdoving> xavier: are you in the same workgroup as they are?
[12:41] <xavier> yes WORKGROUP
[12:41] <xavier> i changed MSHOME to WORKGROUP
[12:41] <fdoving> ok.
[12:42] <fdoving> then it should just work.
[12:42] <xavier> there were 48 computers in WKGP
[12:42] <xavier> but now i cannot access any of them
[12:42] <fdoving> when i point konqueror to smb:/ i get a list of the computers in my workgroup.
[12:42] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: smb:/   <--- one / not //
[12:42] <xavier> DOHH!!!
[12:42] <fdoving> or, more like, i get the workgroup first, then i clik it, and get a list of computers.
[12:42] <xavier> i thought it was like http:// lolll .. sorry
[12:43] <xavier> hey
[12:43] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: :-)
[12:43] <xavier> i can c the workgroups
[12:43] <xavier> but when i click on them it says could not connect to host
[12:45] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: when konq starts the default page: should give you 'Network Folders' as an option to click on
[12:45] <fdoving> xavier: did you setup the username/password in kmenu -> system settings -> sharing -> local network browsing ?
[12:45] <xavier> yes .. just the username
[12:46] <TheGateKeeper> I haven't put anything there, & I get a prompt for both
[12:46] <TheGateKeeper> my guess is you need both bits of info or nothing
[12:46] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: i have changed the web profile so that konq takes me to google.com by defualt
[12:47] <ishkur> hmm i got a prob to read mp3 , tried with amarok and kaffein , both just skip them , tho the sound seems to works fine ... any idea pleaz ?
[12:47] <xavier> i cannot even access google.com now
[12:47] <xavier> am connected via pppoe
[12:48] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: that's what I use firefox for :-)
[12:48] <fdoving> ishkur: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[12:48] <ishkur> oh thx
[12:48] <xavier> when i run plog ... it says i have coinnected
[12:48] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: firefox is verry slow with just 5-7 plugins .. konq is very fast compared
[12:48] <TheGateKeeper> ishkur: install libxine-extracodecs & use the xime engine
[12:49] <xavier> i have 768 mb ram still
[12:49] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[12:49] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[12:49] <xavier> i installed swiftfox .. no difference in speed compared to firefox .. i have an AMD Athlon Xp
[12:50] <xavier> y can't i open any website ... but irc is working just fine??? i have disabled the firewall
[12:50] <lupine_85> anyone know why konqueror is being annoying every time I start it, saying:- Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error.
[12:51] <lupine_85> file:///home does exist
[12:51] <TheGateKeeper> xavier:  resolve.conf is ok I presume?
[12:51] <ishkur> maybe some dns issue xavier ? :s
[12:51] <lupine_85> resolv.conf not resolve.conf surely? ;)#
[12:51] <xavier> i cannot even ping to www.google.com
[12:51] <xavier> where is resolv.conf please?
[12:51] <TheGateKeeper> yep lupine_85 :-)
[12:52] <xavier> lupine_85: did u try typing just '/home/'
[12:52] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: in /etc
[12:53] <xavier> TheGateKeeper:  i can see two nameservers there
[12:54] <xavier> i have a dynamic ip .. i have not set these nameservers
[12:54] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: why is there a line that reads "search mshome.net" ?? in resolv.conf
[12:55] <lupine_85> xavier: it happens whenever I open an instance of konqueror
[12:56] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: hmm I only have one line pointing at my router, copy it as a backup, then suitable modify it
[12:56] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: can u please help me find the openDNS servers? trying those just in case
[12:56] <lupine_85> correction, it happens whenever I open an instance of konqueror which starts off in a directory
[12:56] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: not using a router?
[12:56] <xavier> TheGateKeeper:  nope
[12:56] <fdoving> xavier: 4.2.2.1 is open.
[12:57] <xavier> fdoving: whts 4.2.2.1?
[12:57] <lupine_85> IP address for a DNS server
[12:57] <lupine_85> IIRC
[12:57] <fdoving> xavier: it's a dns server. vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net
[12:58] <xavier> can i trust it? i have tried OpenDNS before
[12:58] <TheGateKeeper>     * 208.67.222.222
[12:58] <TheGateKeeper>     * 208.67.220.220
[12:58] <lupine_85> konqueror works fine, it's just vaguely annoying to get this box all the time ;)
[12:58] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: try that ^^^^
[12:58] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: ty
[12:58] <lupine_85> xavier: you're probably better using your ISP DNS servers
[12:58] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: add 2 more lines right?
[12:58] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: not sure if I have got it right
[12:59] <xavier> lupine_85: but i am not able to resolve www.google.com lol
[12:59] <lupine_85> can you resolve other domain names?
[12:59] <xavier> no lol
[12:59] <xavier> cannot access the http
[01:00] <lupine_85> any other protocols work
[01:00] <lupine_85> ?
[01:00] <xavier> i am using IRC right now ??
[01:00] <lupine_85> mm, true I guess :)
[01:00] <loxs> whats on the diffrence between the desktop cd download and the dvd download?
[01:00] <lupine_85> can you ping 64.233.183.99 ?
[01:01] <lupine_85> (google)
[01:01] <xavier> let me c
[01:01] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: I would image you put nameserver 208.67.222.222  in your conf file
[01:01] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: i added those
[01:01] <xavier> but guess what?
[01:01] <xavier> i cannot even ping 64.233.183.99
[01:01] <lupine_85> thn it's not a DNS issue
[01:01] <xavier> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[01:01] <xavier> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[01:02] <lupine_85> hmm
[01:02] <lupine_85> do you have a default route set?
[01:02] <xavier> how? where? is that?
[01:02] <lupine_85> (probably not thaty, but best to check)
[01:02] <lupine_85> run "ip route show"
[01:02] <lupine_85> you should get a line "like" default via 81.187.208.246 dev rausb0
[01:03] <xavier> whoa i have 4 ppp connections !
[01:03] <lupine_85> via should be the IP of your gateway; dev should be whatever is the active connection
[01:03] <xavier> all with 4 different IP addresses
[01:03] <xavier> ppp0 ppp1 ppp2 ppp3 <<<< is this normal?
[01:03] <lupine_85> do you have a default?
[01:04] <xavier> i donno .. here's how i connect to the internet .. need a better PPPOE dialer
[01:04] <xavier> i run pon dsl-provider
[01:04] <xavier> my isp generally asks me to retry connecting like 3 time
[01:04] <xavier> s
[01:04] <xavier> so i run plog to chk
[01:05] <xavier> if not connected i retype pon dsl-provider
[01:05] <xavier> when i c an ip being assigned to me when i plog ... i know i am connected
[01:06] <xavier> i know .. i need a more automatic way to dial via PPPOE .. can some one help me with a pppoe dialer? i cannot install kpppoe ..
[01:06] <lupine_85> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=3cd24c4fe5d8bed22d25cce76593ee17&t=307848
[01:06] <lupine_85> was a firewall issue for that person
[01:06] <xavier> i cannot access the internet :))
[01:06] <xavier> i have disabled the firewall in gurddog
[01:06] <xavier> guarddog
[01:07] <xavier> lupine .. brb .. poffing all ppp connections and retrying .. shall be back
[01:07] <xavier> lupine_85: can u please tell me how i can install kpppoe ? i tried using Alien coz i got a RPM package for kpppoe
[01:08] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: kpppoe rpm installation help please?
[01:10] <lupine_85> you... probably don't want to install that
[01:10] <lupine_85> is the networking applet in System Settings inadequate?
[01:11] <lupine_85> if so, your best bet is to build from source.
[01:11] <lupine_85> erm, if not, rather
[01:11] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: you use alien for rpm install, but it may not work, you need to use the repos or a deb if it not working
[01:11] <TheGateKeeper> or compile from source
[01:12] <lupine_85> erm, if so - I was right the first time!
[01:13] <TheGateKeeper> yep
[01:13] <m4x1mum> http://mirror.pacific.net.au/kde/stable/3.5.5/kubuntu/pool-dapper/ <-- which one i need to download to update my kde?
[01:14] <TheGateKeeper> lupine_85: he has got it in stereo now :-)
[01:14] <lupine_85> given that it's 4 years old, I'd especially recommend not installing it
[01:14] <mj> Hey :) I need to install Apache 2 with some custom configs (--disable-rule=EXPAT) - is there a nice way to do that?
[01:14] <lupine_85> mj: when you say install, do you mean build?
[01:15] <mj> lupine_85: Yup - it's a ./configure option
[01:15] <lupine_85> ok - apt-get source <package>
[01:16] <lupine_85> then modify debian/rules to do what you want
[01:16] <lupine_85> modify debian/control to give it a custom name or version
[01:16] <lupine_85> finally dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot to get some .deb files
[01:17] <fdoving> you probably also need to modify debian/changelog (name and version).
[01:17] <mj> Cool, ta - then just dpkg -i foo.deb ?
[01:17] <lupine_85> fdoving: good point :)
[01:17] <fdoving> !away > m0naway
[01:17] <lupine_85> yep
[01:17] <mj> I'll have a fiddle, thanks :)
[01:18] <thul_> I have an eksternal disc, on my sata internal disc i have freebsd installed. Kubuntu will not recognize my sata-disc so i can't install from the cd.. Can i boot into freebsd, mount the eksternal and copy some files from the cd onto the external and install kubuntu that way?
[01:19] <lupine_85> !install
[01:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:19] <lupine_85> summary: yes
[01:19] <lupine_85> all the methods at www.debian.org also work, with small modifications
[01:20] <marchello> saluto tutti, c' qualcuno che pu darmi un aiuto? grazie
[01:20] <lupine_85> !it
[01:20] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:21] <thul_> ok, I'll try lupine_85! thanks.. :)
[01:21] <lupine_85> np
[01:26] <|lostbyte|> Hi,
[01:26] <|lostbyte|> This is weird, i can hear my mic, i can record it. but it wont go threw skype ?
[01:27] <|lostbyte|> i.e, the Remote person cannot hear me.
[01:40] <gingillo> how do i play mp3?
[01:40] <fdoving> http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[01:41] <gingillo> i dont find libxine-extracodecs
[01:41] <fdoving> !repos
[01:41] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:41] <fdoving> enable multiverse as descibed on that page.
[01:41] <xavier> hi .. whew .. i am back
[01:41] <yuma> hello
[01:41] <Linuh> some one help me i can not install flashplayer for firefox
[01:42] <xavier> seriously people
[01:42] <Linuh> give me link to guid ubuntu
[01:42] <Linuh> plz
[01:42] <fdoving> Linuh: http://help.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <xavier> i need a better pppoe manager ... or else i will go mad .. doing pon dsl-provider :: plog :: dsl-provider :: plog :: dsl-provider :: plog :: dsl-provider :: plog :: dsl-provider :: plog ::
[01:42] <alex_> Hi ! Can not find a page where it is explain how to upgrade from breezy to draper. Anyone can help please or give me a link ?
[01:42] <fdoving> !upgrade
[01:42] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:43] <yuma> !svg
[01:43] <ubotu> svg is Scalable Vector Graphics, a language used for graphical applications in XML, and a W3 recommendation. SVG Editors: Inkscape, Karbon14
[01:43] <xavier> pon dsl-provider <<< i have to keep doing that .. my isp makes me redial again and again
[01:43] <xavier> !pppoe
[01:43] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:44] <yuma> which program should I use if I want to make 3D draws to insert into a LaTeX document?
[01:44] <Clown> hi
[01:44] <alex_> Hi ! Can not find a page where it is explain how to upgrade from breezy to draper. Anyone can help please or give me a link ?
[01:44] <alex_> Oops Sorry ..
[01:44] <Clown> there are some command for check if i am running / ussing xgl / beryl now?
[01:46] <raul12>  my adept is opening in read only mode plz help
[01:46] <raul12>  how can i bring back to normal mode
[01:46] <raul12>  ??
[01:47] <thul_> join #freebsd
[01:47] <mike> how can i change kdm theme?
[01:47] <thul_> hmm
[01:47] <thul_> sorry:P
[01:47] <raul12>  plz help ??
[01:47] <fdoving> !adept crash fi
[01:47] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[01:47] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[01:47] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[01:47] <fdoving> raul12: ^^
[01:47] <raul12> ok
[01:48] <xavier> is there a better way to connect via pppoe??
[01:48] <ishkur> hmm i still cant hear mps even tho all needed packages are installed :|
[01:49] <ishkur> mp3s even
[01:49] <gingillo> how do i mount a partition with windows in another disk? can someone help me?
[01:50] <fdoving> !fat32
[01:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:50] <egonw> how do I mount a SD memory card from my digital camera (dmesg shows it being inserted/removed)?
[01:50] <xavier> fdoving: can u help me install kpppoe?
[01:50] <egonw> (indicated to be inserted into a pcmcia slot)
[01:51] <lupine_85> egonw: usually they're sd* devices
[01:51] <lupine_85> so try mounting all the different sd* device files in /dev
[01:52] <lupine_85> (often it's sda, for instance, rather than sda1, that you need to mount)
[01:52] <xavier> lupine_85: hi.. i am using 9 ppp connections right now .. when i run ip route show
[01:52] <egonw> lupine_85: dir: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory
[01:53] <xavier> when only the 9th is active .. i am going mad dialing 9 times to connect to the internet! everytime my isp disconnects me
[01:53] <lupine_85> xavier: I've no idea, sorry - I don't use ppp
[01:54] <yuma> egonw: dmesg doesn't show where it's the device that represents the sd card?
[01:54] <xavier> ok
[01:54] <lupine_85> maybe it's a timeout ot something
[01:54] <lupine_85> or*
[01:54] <ishkur> amarok just keep skipping mp3 files as if they are empty or smthg , tested system sound and it works tho
[01:54] <egonw> yuma: no :(
[01:54] <daco> hello I can't install a packege on my kubuntu installation, and I don't know how can i get help here
[01:55] <egonw> pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0 <- is last line
[01:55] <yuma> egonw: theres something called pcmcia in /dev?
[01:55] <egonw> no /dev/pcm*
[01:55] <yuma> hmmm
[01:56] <egonw> ok, so a driver missing?
[01:56] <alex_> Is a auto-updater avalable in kubuntu ? I got it on ubuntu .
[01:56] <daco> hello I can't install a package on my kubuntu installation, and I don't know how can i get help here
[01:56] <yuma> egonw: I think it's possible, I've never plugged anything in pcmcia slot
[01:56] <fdoving> alex_: no. not yet, it's a gole for edgy+1
[01:57] <egonw> daco: what you're trying to install?
[01:57] <fdoving> goal that is.
[01:57] <alex_> fdoving,  so only for ubuntu , right ?
[01:57] <egonw> yuma: yes, I saw some comments on having to install 2.6.17
[01:57] <yuma> egonw: any sg*?
[01:57] <fdoving> alex_: right.
[01:57] <egonw> which I did
[01:57] <egonw> yuma: nope
[01:58] <yuma> egonw: I think sometimes the scsi drives are called that way, maybe the cards too
[01:58] <alex_> fdoving, edgy + 1 ?
[01:58] <fdoving> alex_: the release after edgy.
[01:58] <fdoving> !edgy
[01:58] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:58] <daco> Hello! no kubuntu is alredy installed. i'm tring to install gcc with apt-get but i can't,egonw
[01:59] <fdoving> daco: install the package named 'build-essential'
[01:59] <kudu> try to install build-essential
[01:59] <alex_> fdoving, thought current version was drapper drake :\
[01:59] <egonw> daco: what erorr message do you get?
[01:59] <alex_> !drapper
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <fdoving> alex_: it is, edgy is the 'current development version'
[02:00] <alex_> fdoving, ok thanks !
[02:01] <Rapidwolve> sudo apt-get install ubuntu
[02:01] <Rapidwolve> whats the package
[02:01] <alex_> fdoving, I m upgarding and ubuntu is asking be for debconf configuration ... Don't know what it is ...
[02:01] <alex_> !debconf
[02:01] <ubotu> debconf is a configuration management system. All packages that support debconf are configured when they are being installed. If you want to change a configuration option later, you can do so using dpkg-reconfigure
[02:01] <Rapidwolve> ubuntu-<something here>
[02:01] <Rapidwolve> i forget what it is
[02:01] <egonw> -desktop?
[02:01] <daco> it saw that the package  hasn't version available
[02:02] <egonw> that normally means wrong package name
[02:02] <Rapidwolve> egonw: thanks it ws right
[02:02] <infornography> Is the libxine-extracodecs package called something else now? Because it doesn't appear to be there
[02:02] <egonw> daco: try build-essential as suggested by others
[02:03] <egonw> daco: that should get you a gcc version
[02:04] <daco> egonw: gcc isn't installed i have tried with cuild-essential. it said that the package  hasn't version available
[02:05] <T3hWiz0rd> kopete freezes everytime i launch it...
[02:05] <egonw> daco: for any name confusion, try packages.ubuntu.com
[02:05] <egonw> and use the search functionality
[02:05] <daco> egonw: ok i'll try
[02:06] <Ropechoborra> How do i create a new file in KDE Desktop ? (Like right click-> new)
[02:10] <ad> !upgrade
[02:10] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:11] <daco> egonw i write: apt-get install gcc-4.0-base the answer is that the package was already installed
[02:11] <daco> but i havent gcc
[02:11] <xavier> hey whts the kb shortcut for task manager in KDE?
[02:13] <ad> They say in the upgrade (but it is a ubuntu doc) to update "update-manager" but this is a gnome package :\ What should I upgrade ? What is the kde package for this ?
[02:14] <ad> The aim is to upgrade from brezzy to drapper
[02:14] <daco> egonw i write: apt-get install gcc-4.0-base the answer is that the package was already installed
[02:14] <lupine_85> you could just edit sources.list yourself?
[02:14] <lupine_85> I'm not sure if there is a GUI options for KDE
[02:15] <lupine_85> of course, update-manager will still work - just pull in a load of gnome deps
[02:17] <Ragol> I have some problems with my network connection in my kubuntu machine (description will follow)
[02:18] <Ropechoborra> How do i create a new file in KDE Desktop ? (Like right click-> new)
[02:18] <egonw> daco: and gcc-4.0 ?
[02:18] <Ragol> whatever I'm trying, the first response is network is not working, but if I try the same address with the same program again, it will work
[02:19] <Ragol> no, it's not dns related, because the same thing will happen with ip numbers
[02:19] <Ragol> oh, and the windows machines work great
[02:19] <fdoving> ls
[02:19] <fdoving> ops.
[02:20] <daco> has not version avaliable
[02:20] <daco> egonw  has not version avaliable
[02:20] <ad> lupine_85: well ... update manager is a gui ?
[02:21] <ad> for gnome ?
[02:21] <lupine_85> gnome programs *can* run in KDE
[02:22] <lupine_85> cleaner to do it using apt-get dist-upgrade, though
[02:22] <lupine_85> !update
[02:22] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:22] <Ropechoborra> lupine_85 is it safe to upgrade now? i mean... is edgy stable ?
[02:22] <lupine_85> define stable
[02:23] <Ropechoborra> I dont know... everything works as it should?
[02:23] <lupine_85> it "works for me" - quite well - but I'm not running a stock system, really
[02:23] <lupine_85> apparently the edgy kernel is a bit b0rken atm
[02:23] <lupine_85> (I'm running my own, so it didn't affect me ;) )
[02:23] <lupine_85> in addition, the actual upgrade process is still a bit bumpy
[02:24] <Ropechoborra> Im kind of new... what do you mean by your own kernel?
[02:25] <arejaytee> u know KFC kernel !
[02:26] <T3hWiz0rd> okay that should be my last join/leave lol
[02:26] <Ropechoborra> How do i create a new file in KDE Desktop ? (Like right click-> new)
[02:26] <daco> egonw "apt-get upgrade" said me that all is update... is that possible if i have install kubuntu from the live older than july
[02:26] <fdoving> Ropechoborra: right click -> create new -> select
[02:26] <arejaytee> right click -> create new?
[02:26] <Ropechoborra> Dont got create new =(
[02:28] <dognews> hi
[02:28] <egonw> daco: dunno... what does your apt sources.list say?
[02:29] <Ropechoborra> fdoving I dont got create new option =|
[02:29] <daco> egonw: the only things not commentet are :
[02:29] <dognews> Why do I get an error ("failed! (12)") of cafix (a data transmitting prog for casio calculators)? Can it be that I didn't configure my serial port correctly? Do I even have to configure anything for using that port?
[02:29] <daco> egonw: deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[02:30] <daco> egonw: deb-src http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[02:30] <egonw> maybe something wrong with the archive? you could try the main archives
[02:31] <daco> where i can find the main archivie?
[02:31] <rubens_> tenho um note com teclado US e no kubuntu basta eu apertar ctrl+alt+K para mudar o teclado de US pata ABNT
[02:31] <rubens_> como fao isso no ubuntu com Gnome
[02:31] <egonw> oh... and just make sure to add "main" at the end of that line, or make sure that another line gives that
[02:32] <moonsky> hi all
[02:32] <daco> egonw: ok ill try
[02:32] <moonsky> got pb regarding USB support after update to kde 3.5.5
[02:32] <moonsky> its eems that usb does not work anymore, it does not mount,
[02:32] <moonsky> and has pbs
[02:37] <daco> egonw: thank you very much, the  build-essential is installing...
[02:46] <Firetech> hmm, CUPS in KDE isn't working for me anymore (upgraded to 3.5.5 a few days ago)
[02:47] <Firetech> It says it canb't connect to the server, but it seems to be running fine
[02:48] <pierresabatier_> Hello everybody, I have a problem whith my screen, there is only 2 choise xhith xrandr, and I want a "resolution" higher
[02:49] <pierresabatier_> who know how to change this?
[02:53] <mike> need help how do i fix this problem, t... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found
[02:53] <cpk2> pierresabatier_: you can probably add the desired resolutions into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:54] <pierresabatier_> how can I do that?
[02:54] <lupine_85> mik: install the -dev packages for Qt
[02:54] <lupine_85> !info libqt3-dev
[02:54] <ubotu> Package libqt3-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[02:55] <mike> how do i fix it?
[02:55] <lupine_85> hmm
[02:55] <lupine_85> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[02:55] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 160 kB
[02:55] <lupine_85> try installing that
[02:55] <mike> ok thanx for the fast rep ^^
[02:56] <cpk2> !resolution
[02:56] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:57] <mike> when i install libqt3-mt-dev the came up WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[02:57] <mike>   liblcms1-dev
[02:57] <mike> just continue?
[02:59] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:01] <vinicri> herlle everyone. i trying to install this theme pack http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42697
[03:01] <vinicri> but i cant find a way in kubuntu
[03:01] <vinicri> where shoul i go
[03:02] <cpk2> can you use gnome themes in kde?
[03:02] <vinicri> oh... thx
[03:02] <vinicri> understood
[03:03] <mike> lupine_85 : after installing libqt3-mt-dev theres a new error KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[03:03] <lupine_85> then install the KDE headers
[03:03] <lupine_85> rinse and repeat until no errors remain
[03:04] <cpk2> vinicri: that was a question, i'm not sure if you can or cant
[03:04] <mike> ohh man......... lots of work all im trying to do is make install for kdm theme manager T_T
[03:04] <cpk2> mike: why are you compiling it yourself?
[03:05] <lupine_85> *shrug*
[03:05] <lupine_85> that's the nature of building from source
[03:05] <mike> i got poor internet connection
[03:05] <lupine_85> hence why people use distributions in the first place
[03:05] <David_Edmundson> if you're installing KD3, look into apt-build
[03:05] <cpk2> how does compiling yourself save bandwidth?
[03:05] <David_Edmundson> it doesn't.
[03:05] <lupine_85> not even close ;)
[03:05] <mike> cpk2 : i know
[03:07] <narasim_7> hello all
[03:08] <mike> thanx for d uhm support..
[03:08] <cpk2> David_Edmundson: you know that might be just the thing that I have been looking for
[03:08] <moonsky> so anybody knows about this usb bug  with kde 3.5.5 ?
[03:09] <cpk2> David_Edmundson: do you know much about apt-build?
[03:10] <David_Edmundson> used it a few times. it's pretty much the same as apt-get souce then debian/rules
[03:10] <moonsky> it looks like im talking to wind
[03:10] <lupine_85> !info kde
[03:10] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[03:10] <cpk2> tpying to wind?
[03:10] <David_Edmundson> debian/rules is a shell script that builds a .deb of the source. is contained in all debinan source pacakges
[03:10] <Firetech> CUPS printing in KDE 3.5.5 (for dapper) is broken. (kdeprint/kprinter can't connect to cupsd.) After some investigation, it seems like an upstream patch (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115891) "fixed" something that already worked in kubuntu (CUPS 1.2 support). cupsd is up and running, and Gnome can connect to it.
[03:10] <cpk2> now that would be an odd thing to do
[03:11] <moonsky>  does anybody could at least say hello, and answerd when a question is asked
[03:11] <cpk2> David_Edmundson: how does apt-build differ from apt-get source -b?
[03:12] <lupine_85> moonsky: do you really want 318 people to say hello to you?
[03:12] <David_Edmundson> it also builds the dependencies rather than just installing binaries of them
[03:12] <moonsky> well, a minimum of respect, thats pity for me to have to talk like that to provok any reaction here
[03:12] <David_Edmundson> and you can do apt-build dist-upgrade
[03:12] <lupine_85> !patience
[03:12] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:12] <lupine_85> *shrug*
[03:13] <moonsky> especially when something is asked for a problem that plenty of peops have
[03:13] <vinicri> i'm newbe :-/.. i know some definitions in linux,, have read some books but there's plenty of thiung that i dont know yet.. can you give me some sites where i can learn new things..
[03:13] <lupine_85> www.linuxquestions.org ?
[03:13] <moonsky> ubotu, mv bots /dev/null
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mv bots /dev/null - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <sisyphe> fr
[03:13] <lupine_85> cool, kicker just dies on me
[03:13] <lupine_85> died*
[03:14] <mike> lupine_85 : is there a kdm theme manager for Kubuntu? ^^
[03:14] <sisyphe> c koi le salon ubuntu pour les frenchies ?
[03:14] <moonsky> sisyphe,  reflechies
[03:14] <sisyphe> salut!
[03:14] <sisyphe> huhu
[03:14] <moonsky>  kubuntu-fr
[03:14] <sisyphe> j ai essay #ubuntu.fr
[03:14] <moonsky> i leave cause as usual there was no answer here
[03:14] <sisyphe> merci le canadien
[03:15] <moonsky> canadien mon cul
[03:15] <sisyphe> aha
[03:15] <cpk2> David_Edmundson: wow, that means apt-build will give my computer something to do at night =P
[03:15] <lguilherme> bom dia alguem poderia me ajudar a instalar minha placa de video no ubuntu? 6.06l
[03:15] <sisyphe> t koi au juste?
[03:15] <moonsky> sisyphe, aprend irc
[03:15] <moonsky> aprend la gestion des hots
[03:15] <moonsky> hosts
[03:15] <sisyphe> BUrrPPP
[03:15] <sisyphe> hum
[03:16] <sisyphe> je sais pas tr bin ce ke tu veux dire
[03:16] <sisyphe> hu
[03:16] <David_Edmundson> cpk2: I'm fairly sure you can do apt-build everything currently installed on my system
[03:17] <David_Edmundson> my friends house did that on one of the machines. with DistCC set up on everyone elses box
[03:17] <David_Edmundson> combined proccessing power of about 12Ghz
[03:17] <cpk2> i've just got my poor p4 at at about 2.4ghz
[03:18] <David_Edmundson> well have a fun time :-D
[03:18] <TheGateKeeper> so does that give you any speed advantage?
[03:18] <cpk2> and I have no clue what the difference between p4 and p4m is but I am assuming that i have a p4 =)
[03:18] <David_Edmundson> I had a gentoo install on my P4 @ 1.6 for a while
[03:18] <David_Edmundson> p4m= mobile edition
[03:20] <vinicri> i can't install this themehttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6234 i dont know what i'm doing wrong
[03:20] <David_Edmundson> TheGateKeeper: a compile makes a small difference, especially on the core layers such as X or the kernel
[03:20] <cpk2> its doesnt seem you can tab complete with apt-build like you can with apt-get
[03:21] <David_Edmundson> generally not worth it. The real reason for doing it is because you can change something called Use Tags
[03:21] <TheGateKeeper> David_Edmundson: have you ever installed arch linux?
[03:22] <David_Edmundson> no, what's special about it?
[03:22] <cpk2> i just want to build stuff from source to give my computers un used cycles something to do =)
[03:22] <TheGateKeeper> David_Edmundson: 'speed' in a word
[03:22] <David_Edmundson> cpk2: erm. you could use it to help cure cancer or hunt for aliens?
[03:23] <cpk2> David_Edmundson: dont believe in aliens and am not so sure i could help cure cancer through my schools firewall
[03:24] <David_Edmundson> you have your own computer in a school at night?
[03:24] <cpk2> I live on campus at my university
[03:24] <David_Edmundson> ah, Uni
[03:24] <David_Edmundson> makes more sense
[03:24] <David_Edmundson> where at?
[03:27] <cpk2> well double checking with the whois SJSU =P
[03:28] <cpk2> haha i like how the man of the apt-build says bugs: many.
[03:30] <dhq> !edgy
[03:30] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:34] <arukuro> is there an irc for america's army here
[03:53] <snook353> kubuntu decided this morning to only take-up about half of my screen
[03:53] <snook353> what do i do?
[03:53] <cpk2> use the mouse to scroll it over?
[03:53] <snook353> yeah
[03:53] <snook353> that's not a solution
[03:54] <snook353> it decided this morning, as in, its never done that before
[03:55] <cpk2> snook353: can you actually scroll the screen around with the mouse?
[03:55] <snook353> yeah, i can cpk2
[03:55] <cpk2> snook353: does ctrl alt + do anything?
[03:56] <snook353> what is "do"? cpk2
[03:56] <cpk2> snook353: press ctrl alt +
[03:56] <snook353> no.  my computer's just makin a lot of noises.
[03:56] <TheGateKeeper> what's the tar command for a <filename>.tar.bz2 to extract please folks?
[03:57] <cpk2> snook353: are you in x right now?
[03:57] <snook353> yeah cpk2
[03:57] <snook353> i changed some eye candy in the system settings gui
[03:58] <cpk2> TheGateKeeper: tar xvjf
[03:58] <snook353> and i installed openoffice quickstarter cpk2
[03:58] <cpk2> snook353: ctrl alt + (or -) should change the screen res
[03:58] <cpk2> this is + and - on the keyboard
[03:59] <snook353> cntrl alt + or - does nothing cpk2
[03:59] <cpk2> snook353: is it physically only using half the monitor space or the resolution is really big and only displaying half of your desktop?
[04:00] <snook353> physically only using half, cpk2
[04:00] <snook353> except its centered, cpk2, in the middle
[04:00] <cpk2> that is really really odd
[04:01] <snook353> it ususally does not do this.  started when turned on this morning. cpk2
[04:01] <snook353> yeah, i had this prob with knoppix, but that was a software issue, not a glitch, cpk2
[04:01] <cpk2> so why couldnt it be the same software issue?
[04:01] <snook353> i could try turning it on until it decides to stop. cpk2
[04:02] <snook353> notech, cuz it has been normal until this morning, cpk2
[04:03] <snook353> i'm gonna restart somethin, cuz i don't think there's anything else i can do, cpk2
[04:03] <snook353> i apt-get updated, and upgraded cpk2
[04:03] <snook353> and there was nothin wrong cpk2
[04:03] <andrzejsz> snook: are you using notebook-class machine? or desktop?
[04:03] <cpk2> could always try dkpg-rconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:04] <snook353> notebook
[04:04] <cpk2> reconfigure even
[04:04] <andrzejsz> ok. compaq maybe?
[04:04] <snook353> toshiba sat
[04:04] <andrzejsz> hmm...
[04:04] <andrzejsz> i think it may be just the resolution:
[04:04] <andrzejsz> on my compaq/hp when it is set lower than nominal one
[04:04] <andrzejsz> the screen is not stretched...
[04:05] <andrzejsz> check screen res in your X settings.
[04:05] <snook353> ok, andrzejsz
[04:06] <snook353> screen rez is correct
[04:06] <andrzejsz> i guess my guess was incorrect...
[04:07] <snook353> i Did have this prob with (kde) knoppix, but never ubuntu
[04:07] <snook353> even though it was a diff kind of prob
[04:08] <snook353> it takes up small space of screen from log-in
[04:08] <snook353> at log-in, it also does
[04:10] <andrzejsz> try to reconfigure package, as cpk2 suggested...
[04:10] <snook353> ok, thanks
[04:10] <cpk2> which is a shot in the dark
[04:10] <cpk2> but wont hurt
[04:13] <ad> HOw to burn a iso ?
[04:13] <snook353> i'm restarting.
[04:14] <cpk2> ad: k3b will i believe
[04:14] <ad> k3b  ; well i can not find the option ...
[04:14] <ian|> Hi! Is there any simple way to get a "root"-konquerer (or a konquerer asking for a password before writing files in system-directories like /etc/ ?)
[04:15] <cpk2> ian|: sure run command... kdesu konquerer
[04:15] <gingillo> hi, my adpet gives me an error: Could not open cache, can someone help me?
[04:15] <cpk2> ad: burn cd image
[04:17] <ad> cpk2: oh yes .. did not see it ... pfff .. thnaks
[04:18] <cpk2> ian|: hrmm konquerer wasnt a command =X
[04:18] <jende> Hi Folks!
[04:18] <gingillo> hi, my adpet gives me an error: Could not open cache, can someone help me?
[04:19] <jende> has anyone got an idea if the download servers for edgy are in trouble?
[04:19] <jende> why I'm asking?the downloadmanager says that it'll take approx 42hrs to download the iso
[04:20] <andrzejsz> gingillo: please check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169459
[04:20] <jende> so I do have a download speed of ~25KB/sec, which is bad
[04:21] <jende> is there another mirror? maybe one in europe preferrably in germany which I can choose?
[04:22] <cpk2> jende: which mirror are you using right now?
[04:22] <jende> cpk2: hold on ... I'll check
[04:23] <jende> cpk2: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/beta/
[04:23] <dragonkh> hello
[04:23] <andrzejsz> jende: please check http://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/linux/ubuntu/releases/edgy/
[04:24] <dragonkh> anyone know much about configuring sshd ?
[04:24] <andrzejsz> or just go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[04:24] <andrzejsz> select random one
[04:24] <andrzejsz> and click "parent directory"
[04:24] <andrzejsz> :)
[04:24] <jende> andrzejsz: :-) yep, that's going well
[04:24] <puttlick> How do I get Kubuntu to play my MP3's?
[04:25] <_bbeck> dragonkh: ask your question, and if someone can help they'll say something.
[04:25] <jende> andrzejsz: I choose the one in bayreuth
[04:25] <andrzejsz> your choice...
[04:25] <andrzejsz> :)
[04:25] <dragonkh> I want to change my sshd config so that it lets me ssh like this :   ssh user:password@host  rather than prompting me for a password
[04:25] <dragonkh> do you think this is possible with ssh ?
[04:26] <jende> andrzejsz: and goes 6times faster than the one in the US <- the chose before was in the US I guess
[04:26] <puttlick> How do I get Kubuntu to play mp3?
[04:26] <jende> puttlick: so you're mp3's are on hdd and you say, that you can't play them?
[04:27] <cpk2> puttlick: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:27] <puttlick> jende: Exactly ;)
[04:27] <puttlick> cpk2: okay will try that...
[04:27] <jende> puttlick: have you done what cpk2 just said
[04:28] <nuku> dragonkh: you could use public key authentification..
[04:28] <jende> andrzejsz: just one last question the iso on the other mirror had ~3,5GB and the one iin Bayreuth has 683Megs. what's the difference?
[04:29] <andrzejsz> i guess one of this isos is DVD :)
[04:29] <puttlick> It says it's not accessiable....
[04:29] <andrzejsz> puttlick: check http://linux.mty.itesm.mx/wiki/index.php/Mp3_en_kubuntu
[04:29] <morghanphoenix> quick question, what is the terminal options required to get konsole to open in a 25x77 window?
[04:29] <jende> andrzejsz: sure that is
[04:29] <puttlick> Okey^ thanks
[04:30] <morghanphoenix> I'm trying to add something to the kmenu, but it needs a window bigger than konsole wants to launch in.
[04:31] <PiR> hi
[04:31] <andrzejsz> jende: just download CD iso for your architecture
[04:31] <andrzejsz> :)
[04:32] <pieRReSabatier> et bien, non, ce que je pensais n'a pas march
[04:32] <jende> andrzejsz: I'm already doing iit and will get all the other features, i might need with apt
[04:32] <nuku> morghanphoenix: konsole --help reveals --vt_sz CCxLL :)
[04:33] <morghanphoenix> thanks, I can't seem to find anything in man pages.
[04:33] <PiR> pieRReSabatier : just english in this chan, but you can speak french in #kubuntu-fr
[04:33] <nuku> morghanphoenix: --help can also help :)
[04:33] <jende> cpk2: cause a friend of mine need it to compare for somewhatever reasons some features (Deian <-> KUbuntu) and his DSL Router just died
[04:34] <morghanphoenix> nice, and here I've been doing it the hard way
[04:34] <jende> cpk2: so he asked me to do it for him and basically I'm happy with edgy the eway it is already
[04:34] <PiR> I'd like to know, if it is a dictionnary multilanguage (i search german-french) OpenSource in linux
[04:35] <PiR> nobody ?
[04:35] <jende> PiR: not as much as I know
[04:36] <jende> PiR: you may want to use google / googles translator
[04:36] <morghanphoenix> Yeah for rogue-like games!
[04:36] <jende> cpk2: is that okay? ;-)
[04:37] <cpk2> jende: was just making a comment =)
[04:37] <jende> cpk2: ah, okay
[04:37] <cpk2> mostly for those that come in after edgy has broken them =P
[04:38] <PiR> jende : googlestranslator is ... hum ... how to say it ... to bad !
[04:38] <PiR> :)
[04:38] <TheGateKeeper> cpk2: that's ok they can find the bugs for all the rest of us lol
[04:38] <cpk2> =D
[04:39] <PiR> I search an Utralingua dictionnary like
[04:39] <PiR> but Ultralingua isn't free
[04:39] <jende> cpk2: I had just one little drama after the upgrade *g*
[04:39] <jende> TheGateKeeper: mine looks quite stable as yet
[04:40] <jende> TheGateKeeper: once I'll discover a bug I'll let you know anyway
[04:40] <TheGateKeeper> jende: good :-) did it break anything in the upgrade process?
[04:41] <nuku> PiR: maybe try dict.org with kdict as frontend.. but i don't know how good the quality of its ger/fr dictionaries is
[04:41] <jende> TheGateKeeper: basically what happened was that after the Kernel and it's modules have been loaded it was freezing, which was not such a drama for me, cause I used the rescue mode and went into
[04:41] <jende> TheGateKeeper: chroot and fixed it this way. I guess it has been my fault anyway
[04:42] <PiR> ok thanks nuku , i'll tray it
[04:42] <TheGateKeeper> jende: how was it your fault?
[04:44] <jende> TheGateKeeper: okay...it was my fault, because I right after I did sudo apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade Adept gave me a warning so I went into Adept and haven't really finished the whole upgrade process in the console mode with apt
[04:44] <jende> TheGateKeeper: the Adept warning might confuse people as it has confused me
[04:44] <morghanphoenix> what is a .jar file? an archive or an executable?
[04:45] <jende> morghanphoenix: an archive
[04:45] <andrzejsz> morghanphoenix: Java archive
[04:45] <andrzejsz> some of them are runnable with java -jar JARFILE
[04:45] <morghanphoenix> They don't need compiling, do they?
[04:45] <ad> !lts
[04:45] <ubotu> lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[04:46] <nuku> PiR: forget about dict.org it just contains about 6000 words in the fr/de dict :(
[04:46] <andrzejsz> morghanphoenix: no, they don't. just type "java -jar FILE"
[04:46] <jende> TheGateKeeper: and after I've been in the chroot it took me like another 15mins and eversthing was fine
[04:46] <jende> TheGateKeeper: and after I've been in the chroot it took me like another 15mins and everything was fine
[04:47] <morghanphoenix> woah, lots of missing toolkits, what do I need for this? I'm just running the current jre from sun's webpage.
[04:47] <ryanakca> How do I make amarok display similar to iTunes? (genres, artists and albums in three collumns on the top half of amarok, while the bottom half is tracks)
[04:47] <morghanphoenix> AWT
[04:48] <morghanphoenix> Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[04:48] <jende> TheGateKeeper: did that help you?Or dou you want me to explain the process more precise?
[04:49] <TheGateKeeper> jende: no that's fine thanx
[04:49] <TheGateKeeper> jende: my intention is not to upgrade until the end of november at the earliest
[04:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy All !
[04:50] <Clown> hi gays
[04:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, Oct 26 is gonna be a DL nightmare anyway
[04:50] <cpk2> TheGateKeeper: i wasnt going to do it till around xmas time so I have all the time in the world just in case i break something =)
[04:50] <jende> TheGateKeeper: I guess it'll be the easiest solution to tell users on the Howto upgrade page that Adept could spit aou a warning but it's not worth using adept, instead..it makes it worth.
[04:51] <gzevspero> Hi, I just installed a kvm switch and when using it I can't get my kubuntu resolution to go any higher than 640x480. I go into admin mode but still no other resolution options exist. I can get kubuntu to run in normal resolution when I'm connected directly, not via the kvm. Any ideas?
[04:52] <morghanphoenix> either crappy hardware or need to configure xorg
[04:52] <TheGateKeeper> well I don't really use adept, I use apt-get/synaptic
[04:52] <cpk2> gzevspero: probably need to edit xorg with the monitor plugged into the switch
[04:52] <jende> cpk2: on the other boxes I have a Deb-Sid and a Deb-Etch, so I knew what I'm doing, except with Adept's bloody warnings
[04:52] <morghanphoenix> oh, kvm, maybe it detects that as your monitor, you using plub n play?
[04:52] <morghanphoenix> yes, plub n play
[04:53] <morghanphoenix> good one
[04:53] <gzevspero> cpk2: how do I edit xorg? (my first day on linux)
[04:53] <cpk2> jende: never said you didnt, just I think that some people up to edgy and expect to not have any problems somehow
[04:53] <morghanphoenix> so, no idea what a awt toolkit is?
[04:53] <TheGateKeeper> my intention in any event is to put gentoo on this box, then make a decision as to whether I need to replace hardware
[04:54] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: probably this libgcj7-awt - AWT peer runtime libraries for use with gcj
[04:54] <jende> cpk2: I know you didn't
[04:54] <jende> TheGateKeeper: I don't like gentoo, to be honest
[04:54] <TheGateKeeper> I have never been fond of this upgrade process as it seems to break things more often than not
[04:55] <jende> TheGateKeeper: honestly, the edgy upgrade went fine and nothing got broken at all
[04:55] <morghanphoenix> thanks cpk2, that was it.
[04:55] <cpk2> since i have /home all by itself
[04:55] <jende> cpk2: should work
[04:56] <morghanphoenix> resident java apps now running
[04:56] <cpk2> but I am worried that I might somehow cause problems for myself anyways
[04:56] <jende> cpk2: maybe you just want to make an imake first?
[04:56] <TheGateKeeper> cpk2: you probable could, but you should not have to, seems to me having to that kills the whole point of installing linux
[04:56] <jende> cpk2: want to know how I did it?
[04:57] <zen> ok i have a unusual question i cant see why exactly but i think i know ... my webpages load noice and fast but a download tends to load slow i loaded the same page on my other system and noice and fast so i tried the download and yep fast too.. so i think it may be the traffic of the network card but how do i set  it to a fster speed or maybe its the setup of the system it is pretty standard atm i can get files from the ubuntu server noice and 
[04:57] <zen>  firefox or the whole http system any ideas please let me know
[04:57] <cpk2> jende: sure, never heard of imake
[04:58] <jende> cpk2: imake???
[04:58] <cpk2> TheGateKeeper: how so? all of my user configs will be saved and all of my user information will be saved
[04:58] <cpk2> to me that is one of the biggest points of installing linux, your important data is seperate from the system
[04:59] <jende> cpk2: sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy /g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <jende> cpk2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:59] <umb> chi pu aiutarmi con kubuntu?
[04:59] <jende> cpk2: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:59] <jende> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:00] <morghanphoenix> great, running, but freezes because of gtk errors, I think I'm about to give up on java
[05:00] <andrzejsz> umb: most of us do not speak language, you've just spoken...
[05:00] <jende> cpk2: that's all I did
[05:00] <umb> l need help about kubuntu
[05:00] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: did you apt-get java?
[05:01] <andrzejsz> umb: just ask (in english). if someone knows the answer, will answer you.
[05:01] <justaguy2> is there a 64bit kubuntu channel?
[05:01] <jende> umb: like what?what kind of help?
[05:01] <umb> ati xpress 200 driver configuration/installation
[05:01] <morghanphoenix> no, I dovnloaded and installed the bin
[05:01] <marek> is synaptic in kubuntu also ?
[05:02] <TheGateKeeper> marek: yep
[05:02] <jende> marek: there is
[05:02] <justaguy2> can be in kubuntu if you want, I use it
[05:02] <marek> thnx ;] 
[05:02] <TheGateKeeper> apt-get install synaptic
[05:02] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: it might have been wiser to apt-get java =)
[05:02] <justaguy2> I hate adept
[05:02] <andrzejsz> umb: please check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258176
[05:02] <loxs> is tux racer still about?
[05:03] <umb> marco parla italiano?
[05:03] <marek> sorry for stupid questions ;]  i used only gentoo before
[05:03] <Clown> lox yes but now is named panetpenguin-racer
[05:03] <morghanphoenix> wtf? SDL now, argh! I wish people would write dependancies into thier damn source packages!
[05:03] <jende> cpk2: did you get my stuff?
[05:03] <morghanphoenix> whatever happened to readme files?
[05:03] <justaguy2> is there an edgy kubuntu 64bit user here, have a question about duplicate monitor set-up showing in hardware / kde-systemsettings
[05:04] <justaguy2> wondering if it might be a bug
[05:04] <TheGateKeeper> cpk2: I just think have to do a fresh install is a lot of uneccessary pratting around
[05:04] <cpk2> jende: yes i did thanks, but I will not be upgrading to edgy at least until the beginning of november =)
[05:04] <jende> cpk2: fair enough ;-)
[05:06] <justaguy2> wow, lots of people "standing" around, eh?
[05:06] <jende> justaguy2: wouldn't say so. I can't really help you, but just a few weeks ago there was a thread on the debian(ger)mailing list. and all it needed was a bit of modification in the settings
[05:06] <SlimG> anyone got a howto for using logitech quickcam in kopete?
[05:07] <abattoir> !webcam
[05:07] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:07] <justaguy2> This issue is not causing me a problem, but just thought there would have been others running into this "symptom", that's all
[05:07] <BluesKaj> I'm wondering what advantages edgy 6.10 will have over dapper 6.06 in terms of real world uses ?
[05:07] <abattoir> SlimG: ^^^ that might help you set it up
[05:07] <justaguy2> am running an edgy updated config, without latest kernel upgrade
[05:08] <SlimG> abattoir: Just what i need, thanx ;)
[05:08] <abattoir> SlimG: you're welcome :)
[05:08] <jende> justaguy2: I still think that you have the modifications yourself
[05:08] <jende> justaguy2: ...have to make...
[05:09] <justaguy2> are you running edgy jende?
[05:09] <BluesKaj> justaguy2, what do you like about edgy vs dapper ?
[05:09] <jende> justaguy2: yep
[05:09] <justaguy2> I like to "tinker", stable versions leave me "bored" at times
[05:10] <BluesKaj> jende , what do you think of edgy /
[05:10] <jende> BluesKaj: I love it!
[05:10] <jende> justaguy2: FACK
[05:10] <justaguy2> I have kubuntu 6.06.1 / stable on another partition
[05:10] <BluesKaj> ok, what are the advantages ?
[05:10] <justaguy2> I love edgy.............!
[05:11] <jende> BluesKaj: quite a few advantages
[05:11] <BluesKaj> well?
[05:11] <jende> BluesKaj: give it a go and you'll se
[05:11] <justaguy2> Have been unable to go as far as getting beryl installed and working, although I have an nvidia card, which should make things alot easier
[05:11] <andrzejsz> one of the advanages is that justaguy2 loves edgy :D
[05:11] <jende> andrzejsz: and me...*ggg*
[05:11] <justaguy2> thanks andrzejsz
[05:11] <andrzejsz> ok. both of them.
[05:12] <andrzejsz> BTW: is Edgy male or female ? :)
[05:12] <jende> andrzejsz: nice one...*ggg*...edgy is a beauty and female
[05:12] <justaguy2> flip edgy, and find out!  ; )
[05:12] <andrzejsz> will try. i promise.
[05:13] <BluesKaj> took me quite a while to get my windows network setup working properly in dapper ...wifey runs her pc in windows and i'm not about to make her learn a new OS , since she's not real computer savy .
[05:13] <justaguy2> jende, have you gotten beryl installed and working?
[05:13] <jende> justaguy2: not as yet
[05:13] <cpk2> BluesKaj: ubuntu is incredibly easy though
[05:14] <pieRReSabatier> hello
[05:14] <justaguy2> I hope things wil;l come together faster when edgy goes "final" re: beryl issues
[05:14] <BluesKaj> edgy easier than dapper?
[05:14] <cpk2> BluesKaj: i think in alot of aspects its easy than windows
[05:14] <pieRReSabatier> I want to download an iso image but Kubuntu don't accept
[05:14] <cpk2> i mean apt-get has to be the easiest way to get apps
[05:14] <jende> BluesKaj: even my dad who is 67 doesn't wanna go back to redmond
[05:14] <BluesKaj> what's beryl?
[05:14] <pieRReSabatier> Can I force Kubuntu to accept?
[05:14] <justaguy2> beryl: fork of compiz
[05:15] <jende> justaguy2: will be back shortly
[05:15] <justaguy2> sure thing
[05:15] <jende> justaguy2: ran out of coffee and smokes, what a hassle
[05:15] <justaguy2> I know what you mean!
[05:15] <justaguy2> I only smoke outside
[05:16] <BluesKaj> jende, I'm 63 :)
[05:16] <pieRReSabatier> I repeat again : I wan't to force Kubuntu to accept an iso image , is it possible?
[05:16] <jende> justaguy2: well I've got a nice old house with several rooms and one is my smokers room in which my boxes are
[05:16] <jende> BluesKaj: so, keep rockin'...
[05:16] <jende> bye for now, folks
[05:16] <justaguy2> hahaha, 2nd hand smoke is not the greatest thing for boxes though
[05:17] <justaguy2> bye jende
[05:17] <justaguy2> pieRR, what r u trying to force, sorry
[05:17] <pieRReSabatier> Who can answer?
[05:17] <hyper> hiya, what must a entry in the hosts file look like?   Must there be perioads at the end of the domain names as it is necessary for bind?  e.g.     xx.xxx.xx.xx   mydomain.com.   ?
[05:17] <andrzejsz> pieRReSabatier: what do you mean by "accept an iso image"?
[05:17] <pieRReSabatier> I want load an iso image but kubuntu refuse
[05:18] <justaguy2> load or burn an iso?
[05:18] <pieRReSabatier> burn
[05:18] <BluesKaj> yup jende , listening to steve miller band as we speak :)
[05:18] <andrzejsz> ok. got k3b?
[05:18] <pieRReSabatier> yes, with K3b
[05:18] <justaguy2> yep K3B is the ticket, right click on iso file
[05:18] <pieRReSabatier> It doesn't work
[05:18] <justaguy2> choose K3B
[05:19] <andrzejsz> but tough guys use cdrecord :D
[05:19] <cpk2> pieRReSabatier: are you sure its an iso?
[05:19] <pieRReSabatier> I don't have any iso image Kubuntu refuse them
[05:19] <justaguy2> do you hace a cd in the drive?
[05:19] <pieRReSabatier> yes an empty cd
[05:19] <pieRReSabatier> it's a probleme?
[05:19] <justaguy2> is it being recognized
[05:19] <soulrider> hi everyone =)
[05:19] <pieRReSabatier> yes
[05:20] <pieRReSabatier> it's recognized
[05:20] <justaguy2> try right clicking on icon on desktop
[05:20] <pieRReSabatier> yes
[05:20] <pieRReSabatier> then?
[05:20] <justaguy2> choice, to burn image?
[05:21] <pieRReSabatier> no I don't have this choise
[05:21] <justaguy2> hold on
[05:21] <pieRReSabatier> open copy whith
[05:21] <pieRReSabatier> sorry I'm limited in english
[05:22] <pieRReSabatier> yes
[05:22] <jason> guys,  core 2 duo 6400 --- what iso do i install to take advantage of it?
[05:22] <LjL> is there any decent Kopete SVN package around? (i'm looking for audio and webcam support in MSN)
[05:22] <pieRReSabatier> copy whith k3b?
[05:22] <justaguy2> with cd in drive, close out K3B if open, then open K3B again
[05:22] <justaguy2> yes, copy with K3B
[05:23] <BluesKaj> !core 2 duo 6400
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about core 2 duo 6400 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <pieRReSabatier> Url mal format
[05:23] <pieRReSabatier> no
[05:24] <pieRReSabatier> Url mal form
[05:24] <pieRReSabatier> url bad formed
[05:24] <justaguy2> did you md5 your image?
[05:24] <cpk2> pieRReSabatier: does file thisismy.iso say its an iso?
[05:24] <pieRReSabatier> I don't know
[05:24] <justaguy2> check properties of image
[05:25] <pieRReSabatier> so I don't have this iso image, and when I want it to download, I can't
[05:25] <pieRReSabatier> download or burn
[05:25] <pieRReSabatier> :s
[05:25] <justaguy2> you have the image on harddrive or not?
[05:25] <pieRReSabatier> no
[05:25] <justaguy2> <--confused now
[05:26] <fildo> lol
[05:26] <fildo> u need to download first
[05:26] <justaguy2> oh, so try another download, different location
[05:26] <fildo> retain on hdd. n user k3b to burn image
[05:26] <pieRReSabatier> There is an option to open an iso image on the net whith k3b
[05:26] <justaguy2> no, you don't want to do that
[05:26] <pieRReSabatier> ok
[05:26] <justaguy2> download 1st, then burn with k3b
[05:26] <BluesKaj> jason, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/tags/index.php/core/
[05:26] <andrzejsz> jason: please check at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
[05:27] <jason> thx guys
[05:27] <pieRReSabatier> I save the iso image on /home?
[05:27] <justaguy2> k3b will automatically check md5sum, compare to what you have on image
[05:27] <pieRReSabatier> ^
[05:27] <justaguy2> save to /home, sure
[05:27] <fildo> save it anywhere
[05:27] <fildo> !
[05:27] <Clown> sorry, but i dont speak english very well... guys and gays is the same??
[05:27] <justaguy2> (!)  lol
[05:28] <fildo> no
[05:28] <fildo> haha
[05:28] <justaguy2> ?
[05:28] <justaguy2> pieRR .... downloading?
[05:28] <cpk2> Clown: guys means men;males;boys
[05:28] <BluesKaj> jason if you want to be safe , the 32 bit x86 version should work
[05:29] <Clown> because i only say "hi gays" when i enter in the channel and now i think that i say homosexual to all the people when i want say guys
[05:29] <umb> c' qualcuno che parla ITALIANO?
[05:29] <abattoir> !it
[05:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:29] <justaguy2> mmmmm .. not sure where this id going(?)
[05:29] <abattoir> umb: ^^^^
[05:30] <umb> sei molto gentile.....
[05:30] <cpk2> Clown: you would want to say guys
[05:30] <umb> ciao a tutti
[05:30] <Clown> cpk2: ok thanks
[05:30] <andrzejsz> !en
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <andrzejsz> funny...
[05:31] <zippo> hi hello everybody
[05:33] <dhq> i use ktorrent i am on a 256kbps so i should get a minimum speed of 30 but my speed doesnt cross 10
[05:33] <hazard2> how do you install mount 'suid-root' so normal users can run it?
[05:34] <dhq> hazard2: i guess its chroot
[05:34] <dhq> or chown
[05:34] <dhq> !chown
[05:34] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:35] <dhq> !chroot
[05:35] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:39] <cpk2> you know what i just found in my kmenu?
[05:39] <cpk2> KOdometer!
[05:39] <cpk2> =P
[05:39] <Clown> firefox pascua eggs... tipe g" on the url bar
[05:40] <hazard2> Hrm...
[05:40] <Clown> cpk2: right click on kpanel and "add applet to panel" in the list are kodometer
[05:42] <cpk2> Clown: aww its not in my gui =(
[05:42] <soulrider> cpk2: kodo lol, why would anyone wanna measure how much they move their mouse :P
[05:43] <soulrider> i can undertsand keystrokes but distance...
[05:43] <soulrider> unless its some sort of mass project or something :P
[05:43] <cpk2> ohh you can measure keystrokes too?
[05:43] <soulrider> not with kodo
[05:43] <soulrider> but in win i used whatpulse
[05:43] <soulrider> i think you cna gte it for linux too
[05:43] <soulrider> and it measures numbers of clicks
[05:43] <soulrider> there was one for mouse distance too
[05:43] <soulrider> and like whatpulse you could be in teams
[05:44] <soulrider> and there were competitions, and milestones like going to the moon or the sun lol
[05:44] <cpk2> man i really would love one that measured mouseclicks
[05:44] <soulrider> lol
[05:44] <cpk2> just to see how muchplaying warcraft skyrockets it
[05:44] <soulrider> its fun :P
[05:45] <soulrider> lol
[05:45] <soulrider> i wish lineage 2 ran on linux :(
[05:45] <cpk2> oh, i dont play wow
[05:45] <cpk2> i play warcraft 3 =P
[05:46] <jende> justaguy2: I#m back
[05:48] <soulrider> ihh
[05:48] <soulrider> ohh*
[05:48] <soulrider> still i want lineage :P
[05:48] <soulrider> i still got windows, just for lineage
[05:48] <cpk2> i bet wine or cedega can do lineage
[05:48] <jende> cpk2: cedega can do that
[05:48] <zours> hi
[05:48] <cpk2> warcraft 3 works like a charm on wine
[05:49] <soulrider> i think not cpk2
[05:49] <cpk2> i think wine really only runs into trouble with more hardcore copy protections
[05:49] <soulrider> besides, it has horrible memory leaks
[05:49] <soulrider> it wouldnt run well on cedega or wine
[05:49] <soulrider> i think it actually worked with cedega
[05:49] <soulrider> but it was chronicle 1
[05:49] <soulrider> yeas ago
[05:49] <melhisedek> Anyone have xgl working fine with newer ATi card? X1x00 (series)
[05:50] <soulrider> tehers chronicle 5 now
[05:50] <zours> I have a question : KDE 3.5.5 is out for dapper. If I add the repo to my sources, can I remove the one I had added for KDE 3.5.4 ?
[05:50] <soulrider> sure
[05:50] <jende> zours: yes
[05:50] <cpk2> zours: there is a latest kde version repo so you dont always have to add the new one
[05:50] <zours> OK thanks :-)
[05:50] <zours> Ah ?
[05:50] <cpk2> !easysource
[05:50] <zours> OK. I'll take this one then.
[05:50] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:50] <cpk2> you can get it from there
[05:51] <zours> Ooh... Neat... Thx
[05:51] <cpk2> zours: there are also several other latest of (some kde app) from kubuntu.org there
[05:52] <zours> OK cpk2, thanks
[05:52] <jende> cpk2: as I'm curious...where are you from?
[05:52] <cpk2> united states
[05:52] <cpk2> why?
[05:53] <gzevspero> Hi, I'm a new user who edited my kubuntu resolution settings using xorg and now the gui won't load... I'm on now using the livecd. How can I restore xorg settings to default from the command prompt of my installed kubuntu?
[05:53] <coreymon77> !seen ceros
[05:53] <ubotu> I last saw ceros (n=user@c-68-49-247-245.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 23h 17m 9s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[05:53] <zours> gzevspero : edit you xorg.conf
[05:53] <zours> In /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:54] <zours> In the Screen section...
[05:54] <cpk2> gzevspero: do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg just like the xorg says
[05:54] <Hawkwind> gzevspero: Or boot back to your install, and from a command line type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   Then usually the defaults will get you back into X
[05:54] <jende> cpk2: just because I'm curious...sometimes I just wanna know where people are from
[05:55] <jende> gzevspero: man xserver-xorg telly you all about
[05:57] <jende> any germans around who are into software development?
[05:59] <gzevspero> ok, will try, thanks
[06:00] <cwh1947> anyone know of pcmcia cards that work without ndiswrapper?
[06:00] <jende> cwh1947: what kind of PCMCIA cards?
[06:01] <cwh1947> wireless
[06:01] <zours> Yes. I have a wifi pcmcia that works !
[06:01] <ad> I have problem in charset with vfat partition (fat 32 Windows XP) : some chars appears as squares like "".
[06:01] <cwh1947> what model?
[06:01] <zours> Give me a sec...
[06:01] <cwh1947> tks
[06:02] <ad> Anyone can help lease on charset prob ?
[06:03] <lunitik> Hey, I was under the impression that (K)Ubuntu would be released earlier this month... what happened?
[06:03] <jende> cwh1947: ALLNET WLAN ALL0282a
[06:03] <cwh1947> thanks a bunch!
[06:03] <jende> cwh1947: the other one I know of is a conceptronic
[06:04] <cwh1947> got it written down, thanks for your help
[06:06] <zours> Shit, my card is a generic one... WN150g, no brand...
[06:06] <ritch_> have they fix the cups issues ?
[06:06] <cwh1947> jende had a model number
[06:06] <zen> anyone able to tell me how to navigate around in console / terminal
[06:06] <zours> I saw :-)
[06:06] <cwh1947> but thanks for looking
[06:06] <zours> zen : cd
[06:06] <jende> cwh1947: for which card?
[06:06] <zen> to go up
[06:07] <cwh1947> the wireless pcmcia card
[06:07] <jende> cwh1947: the one for the allnet you've got?
[06:07] <cwh1947> yes zours was looking too
[06:09] <cwh1947> thanks again, off to the store!
[06:10] <jende> cwh1947: I know that is has got a ralink chipset; RT61
[06:11] <copter_> hi, is it possible to force a system to cancel the recharge of a laptop battery while being AC plugged and battery capacity is less than (for example) 90%?
[06:12] <zen> thanks zours ill go log in to terminal and try it without the xserver running
[06:12] <Skrot-> copter_: Doubt that is doable with software..
[06:13] <copter_> Skrot-: so what do you think, is it done strictly by bios or, lets say, kernel?
[06:13] <jende> copter_: I'd say by BIOS
[06:14] <copter_> jende: thats a pitty :/ thnx anyway
[06:14] <driz> hey guys, I just switched internet  ISP from verizon to Comcast and now my router won't work i tried to get to get into the router by IP but it wont work PLEASE help me??!!
[06:14] <driz> it's a Linksys WRT54G
[06:15] <driz> they have no training for Kubuntu/linux computers...
[06:16] <copter_> driz: connect to it by plain lan cable an set it up using http
[06:16] <driz> how? :-(
[06:16] <copter_> driz: on my router there is sticker with default ip address
[06:16] <driz> ya i know it
[06:17] <copter_> driz: try to switch your ip settings to dhcp
[06:17] <driz> ok how do i get that done? sorry total newb
[06:19] <copter_> system settings -> network settings -> (click admin mode) -> (click wlan0) -> configure interface -> choose dhcp -> apply
[06:19] <jende> driz: what does route tell you so far?
[06:19] <jende> driz: open a console using alt+f2
[06:20] <jende> driz: route
[06:20] <driz> i am connected directly to the modem right now its the only way i could log on here
[06:20] <copter_> do you have internet connection now, this way?
[06:21] <coreymon77> guys
[06:21] <coreymon77> when is kde 4 coming out?
[06:21] <driz> copter_: ya
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> anyone know of a gpg aware editor? Something that will open a pgp encrypted file, ask for my pass, allow me to edit, then save as encrypted again?
[06:21] <jende> driz: so, the modules are all loaded properly?
[06:21] <copter_> driz: ok, so its wifi problem rather than ISP i presume
[06:21] <zen> well that was painfull
[06:22] <driz> copter_:I'm guessing so ya
[06:22] <zen> im sad to say no joy there
[06:22] <zen> did get in but install failed anyway
[06:22] <jende> driz: could you make a PING to your router?
[06:22] <jende> zen: waht have you tried to install?
[06:23] <driz> i tried last night and it was unreachable
[06:23] <zen> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run
[06:23] <zen> is the file
[06:23] <zours> There are nvidia binary packages in the repos...
[06:23] <zen> and it put a error details to the log file
[06:23] <zen> repos ?
[06:23] <jende> driz: so, have you tried to give your device a IP using sudo ifconfig <device> 192.168.2.101
[06:24] <driz> no
[06:24] <jende> driz: do that
[06:24] <zours> zen : you have to enable multiverse (I think) in your sources.list file.
[06:24] <zen> yep
[06:24] <zen> done
[06:24] <jende> driz: and the tell your device the route it shoud go using sudo add route default gw <address of your router>
[06:25] <zours> And then, there is an nvidia package containing the driver.
[06:25] <jende> driz: then type sudo route and tell us the output
[06:25] <driz> jende: do i need to connect my router to da that?
[06:25] <driz> do*
[06:26] <jende> driz: you sure have to, otherwise sudo route wont tell you what we need to know
[06:26] <driz> ok i'm about to loose acccess brb
[06:27] <jende> driz: no worry
[06:27] <jende> driz the device name might be either ra0 or wlan0 or something similar
[06:27] <zen> multiverse enabled
[06:27] <jende> zen: sudo apt-get update
[06:28] <zours> zen : and then apt-get install nvidia-glx (iirc)
[06:28] <jende> driz: you have to know the IP of your router, hope you know that
[06:28] <ubuntu> my friend is on a dell, if i delete the restore partition is there any chance it will screw anything up?
[06:29] <jende> ubuntu: usually not
[06:29] <ubuntu> ok
[06:29] <zen> now i love you 2
[06:29] <ubuntu> i'll ditch it then
[06:29] <zen> lol
[06:29] <zours> zen :-)
[06:29] <jende> ubuntu: *lol*
[06:30] <zen> 1 minute till file downloaded
[06:30] <jende> zen: sorry?
[06:30] <zen> apt get is gettign file
[06:30] <zen> will be another minute then illknow how much im in heaven
[06:30] <jende> zen: shouldn't surprise you
[06:31] <zen> (Reading database ... 119431 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:31] <zen> Unpacking nvidia-glx (from .../nvidia-glx_1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-5_i386.deb) ...
[06:31] <zen> Setting up nvidia-glx (1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-5) ...
[06:32] <jende> zen: seems to be good
[06:32] <zen> sweeeet
[06:32] <zours> zen : you'll have to restart X
[06:32] <jende> zen: you might have to restart X
[06:32] <bbt> does the 2.6.15-27-386 linux kernel have smp support in it?
[06:32] <zen> oki is therte a way to do it without a restart or shoud i just restart the system
[06:32] <Hawkwind> bbt: No
[06:32] <kavit> hey when is the Edgy release planned? I dont want to download the beta 2 if it will be released in the next week
[06:32] <jende> bbt: nope
[06:32] <Hawkwind> bbt: You need to install the linux-686 package
[06:33] <Hawkwind> !schedule > kavit
[06:33] <zours> You can go back to the console, zen
[06:33] <bbt> amd dual core
[06:33] <zours> But it's quicker to just restart
[06:33] <kavit> thanks  :)
[06:33] <Hawkwind> kavit: Read what the bot pm'd you
[06:33] <jende> Hawkwind: but edgy is already a beauty ;-)
[06:33] <zen> ok thanks back soon and thankyou for yoru simple help on that one
[06:34] <jende> zen: you're welcome
[06:34] <Hawkwind> jende: I've been using Edgy for well over a month
[06:34] <kavit> Hawkwind: I did... thanks :)
[06:34] <jende> Hawkwind: me too, and I love it
[06:34] <zen> does apt get also do compiz and xgl files
[06:34] <jende> zen: if your sources are alright it does
[06:35] <zen> ok
[06:35] <zen> ill restart this xserver and ask some more info then
[06:36] <jende> Hawkwind: just one question did you make an upgrade?
[06:36] <Hawkwind> jende: I'm running it in vmware only at the moment
[06:36] <jende> Hawkwind: ah okay#
[06:37] <jende> Hawkwind: I might try to set up an edgy server tomorrow - just for the fun of it
[06:37] <driz_> jende: nothing happened... i'm very sad
[06:37] <CarD> I would like only read my ntfs partition /media/mp3 ... but error. help me? :(
[06:38] <Hawkwind> jende: I'm probably about to make this main box Edgy within the next few days
[06:39] <Sammeh> Does anyone know of a Cisco VPN client-like application for Linux?  I'd need it to connect to my office
[06:39] <driz_> noo
[06:39] <jende> driz_: what means nothing?
[06:39] <jende> lupine_85: huh?
[06:40] <Sammeh> nevermind on the cisco client question, didn't realize they release one
[06:40] <lupine_85> [17:36]  <jende> Hawkwind: I might try to set up an edgy server tomorrow - just for the fun of it
[06:40] <driz_> jende: as in i tried what you told me but nothing happened
[06:40] <lupine_85> nm :)
[06:40] <Novh> 
[06:40] <lupine_85> !vpn
[06:40] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[06:40] <lupine_85> heh, that's not right
[06:41] <jende> driz_: do you know if ALL modules for your have been loaded correctly?
[06:41] <jende> lupine_85: sweet
[06:41] <jende> driz_: do you know the device name?i.e. ra0
[06:42] <driz_> ya it's
[06:43] <driz_> it's wrt54g
[06:43] <jende> driz_: no.no.no
[06:43] <driz_> oh
[06:43] <jende> driz_: what tells you /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:43] <lupine_85> if the modules are loaded, then running "iwconfig" will list interfaces - you can then see which have wireless capabilities
[06:44] <jende> driz_: type iwconfig or sudo iwconfig
[06:44] <driz_> ...??? i have no clue :-(
[06:44] <lupine_85> just "iwconfig" in a terminal will do
[06:44] <jende> driz_: just type in the console iwconfig
[06:45] <driz_> lo        no wireless extensions.
[06:45] <jende> driz_: and then tell us the putput of iwconfig
[06:45] <driz_> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[06:45] <driz_> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[06:45] <jende> driz_: is that it? just eth and sit?
[06:46] <lupine_85> so the modules aren't loaded
[06:46] <driz_> yupo
[06:46] <jende> lupine_85: FACK
[06:46] <lupine_85> and it's a wrt54g... got any more information on it?
[06:46] <lupine_85> revision number, etc?
[06:46] <driz_> version 6
[06:46] <jende> driz_: we need more infod
[06:47] <driz_> 2.4gHz 54Mpps
[06:47] <lupine_85> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported?highlight=%28wireless%29
[06:47] <lupine_85> which one of ^ those ^ is it?
[06:48] <lupine_85> ...
[06:48] <lupine_85> wrt54 is a *router*
[06:48] <lupine_85> what is the model of the wireless *card*?
[06:48] <lupine_85> is it PCI, PCMCIA, USB?
[06:49] <driz_> apparently it's on the list
[06:49] <lupine_85> a wrt54g isn't
[06:49] <jende> driz_: on iwconfig?
[06:50] <lupine_85> since one of those doesn't fit into a PCI or USB slot/port
[06:50] <jende> lupine_85: *ggg*
[06:50] <lupine_85> tell you what, pastebin the outputs of "lspci" and "lsusb"
[06:50] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:50] <lupine_85> not into the channel this time
[06:51] <norov> Hey guys
[06:51] <norov> Im running linux for the first time
[06:51] <jende> lupine_85:
[06:51] <norov> and need help with running .exe files
[06:51] <jende> norov: lucky you
[06:51] <driz_> brb going to loose internet again to try iwconfig with the router
[06:51] <lupine_85> ...
[06:51] <norov> i cant run them
[06:51] <jende> norov: we don't have *.exe files
[06:51] <norov> orly
[06:51] <lupine_85> norov: they're PE format. Linux uses ELF
[06:51] <norov> what do we have?
[06:52] <lupine_85> wine might let you use them, but it doesn't work for a lot of stuff
[06:52] <lupine_85> it's not just the format, you see... windows programs use windows syscalls - which don't exist in linux. wine attempts to "emulate" (wrong work, because Wine Is Not an Emulator) those syscalls
[06:52] <norov> what kinda file extensions can i use then?
[06:53] <lupine_85> !wine
[06:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> Time to read a few linux guides.
[06:53] <lupine_85> !packages
[06:53] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[06:53] <Dr_willis> Linux dosent use fileextensions in the way windows does
[06:53] <norov> i see
[06:53] <norov> link me one
[06:53] <norov> basic
[06:53] <Dr_willis> tldp.org
[06:53] <Dr_willis> 100's of guides there.. and google is our friend.
[06:53] <norov> ty
[06:53] <lupine_85> it always amazes me that people don't read *before* they install ;)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> !info tldp
[06:54] <norov> well
[06:54] <ubotu> Package tldp does not exist in any distro I know
[06:54] <norov> this is my school laptop so :p
[06:54] <jende> lupine_85: FACK
[06:54] <Dr_willis> lupine_85,  windows has trained people to expect to be handl-held-tutored.
[06:54] <lupine_85> fack?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> !find tldp
[06:54] <norov> !find
[06:54] <ubotu> Package/file tldp does not exist in dapper
[06:54] <jende> norov: thats not excuse for NOT reading before doing something
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <norov> !adept
[06:54] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:54] <norov> OK SRY ;(
[06:55] <jende> lupine_85: don't do that
[06:55] <norov> btw
[06:55] <lupine_85> too late
[06:55] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: lots of hand-held-tutoring going on in here & #ubuntu too
[06:55] <jende> lupine_85: that might be painful
[06:55] <Dr_willis> jende,  whens the last time ya saw any real docukentation come with a comercial program/os/game. :P heck - even the games these days have a minimal-docs and expect ya to get the $20 gameguide. sadly
[06:55] <lupine_85> anyone got a bucket?
[06:55] <norov> my friend had this application with which you could search for programs
[06:55] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  yep.. we are paying for MS's zombification of users.
[06:55] <norov> and install/update them automatically
[06:55] <Dr_willis> norov,  thats a common linux thing. :P
[06:55] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[06:55] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:56] <norov> !apt-get
[06:56] <norov> !adept
[06:56] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:56] <norov> ok, thanks
[06:56] <jende> norov: man apt in a terminal (alt+f2) will tell you more
[06:56] <lupine_85> 19,000 (or so) free - and Free - applications
[06:56] <lupine_85> you don't get that with a base install of Windows ;)
[06:56] <jende> Dr_willis: huh?
[06:57] <norov> nope, im starting to like this
[06:57] <Dr_willis> jende,  its a trend everywhere to just not bother with docs any more. :(
[06:57] <hss> automatix can work in kubuntu ?
[06:57] <jende> lupine_85: a Pic made with GIMP has just won one of the best prices for digital publishing in germany
[06:57] <Dr_willis> hss,  avoid automatix.
[06:57] <jende> lupine_85: isnt that kinda cool
[06:58] <hss> thx :D
[06:58] <lupine_85> linky?
[06:58] <lupine_85> it might still be a really bad picture
[06:58] <Dr_willis> hss,  best to learn how to install the stuff manually and avoide suprises
[06:58] <BluesKaj> hss, automatix will work, but be careful
[06:58] <lupine_85> automatix will do exactly what says on the tin. Pity the small print is in Klatchian
[06:59] <nodia> are there any list of which languages (k)ubuntu is on? i have searched on google and the wiki, no results.
[06:59] <BluesKaj> which language, nodia?
[06:59] <jende> lupine_85: nope it's a great one - well it depends on the one who looks at it and his personal point of view, I suppose
[07:00] <jende> nodia: there are heaps of supported languages
[07:00] <zen> ok im trying compiz and xgl and the you beaut new graphix system
[07:00] <zen> im doing the how to here on this site
[07:00] <zen> http://chromakode.blogsome.com/2006/02/16/howto-compiz-xgl-on-ubuntu-for-the-morbidly-lazy-2
[07:00] <norov> so how do i install firefox.exe, mirc62.exe etc? :E
[07:00] <nodia> i was thought of for example irish gaelic and esperanto, it would be nice of a list of that before you install
[07:00] <zen> and i am a lim confused
[07:00] <hss> u cant run exe files :P
[07:01] <jende> norov: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[07:01] <BluesKaj> nodia, are you serious ?  :)
[07:01] <lupine_85> ah, yes... http://www.deviantart.com/view/23866865/
[07:01] <zen> norov: forget what you knwo about systems
[07:01] <jende> norov: what do you need mirc for? (K)Ubuntu comes with an IRC client anyway
[07:02] <norov> i know
[07:02] <nodia> well, i could always check when i want to install... i'm just abit lazy i guess ;)
[07:02] <lupine_85> now *that* is the Spirit of Ubuntu ;)
[07:02] <zen> i am trying to get my head around the fact that there is no exe's but i suppose thats just a windows based system
[07:02] <norov> but im having a hard time customizing it and stuff
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Friends dont let froends use mirc. :)
[07:02] <norov> the colors hurt my eyes
[07:02] <zen> lol
[07:02] <nodia> when I install*
[07:02] <lupine_85> zen: it's just a different relocatable object format. don't worry about it
[07:02] <BluesKaj> konverstion rocks ... like it a lot
[07:02] <Dr_willis> You could name all your stuff whatever.exe if you wanted.. :)
[07:02] <lupine_85> if you want to see what's executable, look at the permissions - an "x" designates a file that can be run
[07:02] <zen> norov: my prefered system for irc is konversation
[07:02] <zen> i find it verry easy to use
[07:03] <Dr_willis> but tht would be silly.  :)
[07:03] <norov> might be
[07:03] <lupine_85> SuSE do that
[07:03] <norov> just that im used to mirc
[07:03] <Dr_willis> I like xchat 2.4 still.. i am old-skool i guess
[07:03] <zen> yeah konversation is visually verry simular
[07:03] <lupine_85> their ZenWORKS (it doesn't) and red carpet thingys all have .exe on the end
[07:03] <Dr_willis> mIRC is like smoking.. its worth giving up. :)
[07:03] <lupine_85> konv. is great, especially 1.0.1
[07:03] <norov> jende: nothing happens with that command :o
[07:04] <jende> norov: you do know that you have to type that command in a terminal
[07:04] <zen> norov:  are you in terminal
[07:04] <jende> norov: which you'll get by "ALT+F2"
[07:04] <zen> im guessign norov is where i was about a month ago
[07:04] <norov> i know
[07:04] <norov> i am
[07:04] <zen> apt-get is a legend
[07:04] <norov> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[07:05] <zen> so for that matter is sudo apt-get
[07:05] <BluesKaj> the only thing wrong with konversation is that itdoesn't have a built in server list
[07:05] <jende> have you been asked for password?
[07:05] <zen> yeah
[07:05] <norov> nope
[07:05] <zen> but google is good for that
[07:05] <norov> nothing happens
[07:05] <zen> somethign shoudl happen even if it is sorry cant do it
[07:05] <jende> zen: FACk
[07:06] <zen> whats that mean
[07:06] <norov> maybe it is sudo adept?
[07:06] <jende> zen: (F)ull (A)(C)(K)nowledgement
[07:06] <lupine_85> kdesu adept
[07:06] <lupine_85> or just load it from the K menu
[07:07] <jende> norov: what gives you a apt-get clean or apt-get -f install
[07:08] <zen> has anyone looked at that link i posted
[07:08] <jende> zen: nope
[07:08] <zen> i ned some how to help from what he assumed i understood
[07:08] <zen> http://chromakode.blogsome.com/2006/02/16/howto-compiz-xgl-on-ubuntu-for-the-morbidly-lazy-2
[07:09] <norov> the command seems to work since i dont get any errors
[07:09] <zen> thats good norov
[07:09] <norov> but nothing happens anyaway :E
[07:09] <zen> oh
[07:10] <norov> when i search on adept manager for firefox i only get mozilla-firefox english region language packet
[07:10] <kraut> hi
[07:10] <norov> and its already installed
[07:10] <lupine_85> !info firefox
[07:10] <kraut> when my notebook wakes up from hibernating, my sound-card is crazy-
[07:10] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB
[07:10] <kraut> erm
[07:10] <lupine_85> well, there is is...
[07:11] <kraut> i need a word ;)
[07:11] <jende> norov: apt-cache policy mozilla-firefox
[07:11] <zen> how so kraut
[07:11] <kraut> ah, when it woke up, the sound card is really quiet. any ideas?
[07:11] <zen> is the volume messed with
[07:11] <kraut> and only the left side is working
[07:11] <zen> hmmm
[07:12] <kraut> zen: i pushed every level high
[07:12] <kraut> and the quality is a bit bad
[07:12] <zen> sounds like the properties of the sound have been messed with
[07:12] <kraut> after a reboot, everything is working
[07:12] <norov> nothing happens still
[07:12] <zen> ok restart it and see what happens
[07:12] <norov> maybe i should try rebooting
[07:12] <kraut> zen: i thought so, too. but i pushed every level on high
[07:12] <jende> norov: give me the output of
[07:12] <kraut> zen: how?
[07:12] <kraut> i can't find any alsa init script
[07:12] <zen> ok then the driver for the sound is not perfect im guessing
[07:12] <jende> norov: apt-cache search mozilla-firefox
[07:13] <jende> norov: from which country are ya?
[07:13] <kraut> zen: is there any script, to reload only the soundcard modules?
[07:13] <norov> sweden
[07:14] <zen> hmmm good question kraut
[07:14] <zen> there prolly is but i dont know of one maybee someone else here does
[07:14] <jende> norov: once the FF has started you can download the swedish extension
[07:15] <norov> when i run the commands in the console i get a password prompt
[07:15] <norov> but
[07:15] <norov> i cant write anything
[07:15] <zen> it still hears it
[07:15] <zen> it just dont show it
[07:15] <norov> ah
[07:15] <zen> that had me fooled too
[07:15] <jende> zen: wasn't it modprobe <modulenam>
[07:16] <norov> norov@laptop:~$ apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[07:16] <norov> E: Kunde inte ppna lsfilen /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:16] <norov> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[07:16] <jende> norov: so
[07:16] <zen> do su apt-get
[07:16] <jende> norov: you have to type
[07:16] <zen> or sudo
[07:16] <jende> sudo apt-get
[07:16] <norov> ah yea
[07:16] <jende> and then you'll be asked for a password
[07:17] <jende> type in the password and the cursor WONT move
[07:17] <norov> yea i did
[07:17] <zen> result ?
[07:17] <norov> it says the package is either missing or outdated
[07:17] <slow-motion> re
[07:17] <norov> but another package is directed bla bla
[07:17] <jende> norov: so your sources.list doesn't seem to be poper
[07:17] <norov> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[07:17] <norov> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[07:17] <norov> Paketet mozilla-firefox r inte tillgngligt, men ett annat paket hnvisar till det.
[07:17] <norov> Detta betyder vanligen att paketet saknas, har blivit frldrat eller
[07:17] <norov> bara r tillgngligt frn andra kllor
[07:17] <norov> E: Paketet mozilla-firefox har ingen installationskandidat
[07:18] <norov> so what do i do? =p
[07:18] <zen> ohh sweedish
[07:18] <zen> looks sexy
[07:18] <jende> norov: what is in your menu -> Internet
[07:18] <jende> norov: is FF in there?
[07:18] <norov> nope
[07:18] <norov> only Konquer
[07:18] <BluesKaj> norov. perhaps you'd be happiewr in the svenkska channel .  !se
[07:19] <BluesKaj> !se
[07:19] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[07:19] <norov> 4 users
[07:19] <jende> norov: type sudo apt-get menu
[07:19] <jende> norov: suod apt-get menus
[07:20] <norov> wrong operation
[07:20] <norov> menus
[07:20] <mangor_> somebody here who knows how to configure an ISDN Card with kubuntu
[07:20] <jende> norov: apt-get install menus
[07:20] <jende> norov: sorry for that
[07:21] <jende> norov: apt-get install menu
[07:21] <norov> sudo you mean
[07:21] <jende> norov: sure
[07:21] <puttlick> I can't get Kubuntu to play my Mp3's what to do?
[07:21] <jende> norov: sudo apt-get install menu
[07:21] <mangor_> get easyubuntu puttlick
[07:22] <jende> norov: and then sudo menu-update
[07:22] <BluesKaj> puttlick, what player are trying to use ?
[07:22] <axel> !chmod
[07:22] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[07:22] <norov> when i type sudo apt-get install menu
[07:22] <Dr_willis> puttlick,  or read the FAQ at the kubuntu site and install the correct packages.
[07:22] <norov> its says the package menu isn't available
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !info menu
[07:22] <ubotu> menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.27 (dapper), package size 367 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[07:23] <Dr_willis> norov,  enable the multiverse and universe repos yet?
[07:23] <norov> nope
[07:23] <jende> norov: have you changed so far your sources.list?
[07:23] <norov> no
[07:23] <Dr_willis> guess ya know where to start. :)
[07:23] <jende> norov: type sudo vi /etc/apt/surces.list
[07:24] <Mando> kubuntu crashed for no reason
[07:24] <Mando> it doesnt load
[07:24] <Mando> i get these 2 errors: Could not start kstartupconfig/kdeinit. Check your installation.
[07:24] <jende> norov: to edit you have to press the INSERT key
[07:24] <mangor_> a simpleway to become a well working multimedia system is to install easyubuntu  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:25] <Russel> hiho
[07:25] <Russel> is there a working programm for jingle in edgy?
[07:25] <norov> and what should i edit? =p
[07:25] <Skrot-> !w32codecs
[07:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:25] <mangor_> so, nobody knows how to configure an ISDN Card with kubuntu?
[07:25] <Mando> anyone knows how can my problem be solved?
[07:26] <zen> hmmmm
[07:26] <zen> lots of questions
[07:26] <jende> norov: so, basically UNCOMMENT the lines in which is blahblah multiverse universe
[07:26] <BluesKaj> strange , 'Storage Menu' used to open to the 2 drive partitions by default , now it doesn't.  How do i make the file open to that location ?
[07:27] <norov> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[07:27] <norov> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[07:27] <jende> norov: you at the beginning of these lines a "#" or even two of them, just delete them
[07:27] <norov> Paketet mozilla-firefox r inte tillgngligt, men ett annat paket hnvisar till det.
[07:27] <norov> Detta betyder vanligen att paketet saknas, har blivit frldrat eller
[07:27] <norov> bara r tillgngligt frn andra kllor
[07:27] <norov> E: Paketet mozilla-firefox har ingen installationskandidat
[07:27] <norov> ops
[07:27] <zen> mangor_:  there has to be a way
[07:27] <|lostbyte|> Hi..
[07:27] <|lostbyte|> How to check cam ?
[07:27] <coreymon77> norov: come again?
[07:27] <ad> My ubuntu does not boot anymore. I m installing kubuntu over it. Is there a way to keep datas ?
[07:27] <jende> ad: have you tried to recover your system in CHROOT?
[07:28] <Mando> kubuntu doesnt load
[07:28] <Mando> i get these 2 errors: Could not start kstartupconfig/kdeinit. Check your installation.
[07:28] <ad> jende: no
[07:28] <ad> !chroot
[07:28] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:28] <zen> Mando:
[07:28] <jende> ad: well, then I would do it
[07:28] <coreymon77> can someone figure out what language norov is speaking
[07:28] <ad> jende: how  ?
[07:28] <BluesKaj> jende , kubuntu should detect ubuntu and ask you if you want to upgrade and preserve your settings and files
[07:29] <norov> coreymon77:  excuse me, i accidently pasted a wrong clip
[07:29] <BluesKaj> it's swedish , i know that much coreymon77
[07:29] <norov> so i remove the whole line
[07:29] <coreymon77> oh
[07:29] <jende> BluesKaj: it usually should, you're right
[07:29] <jende> norov: NOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:29] <norov> ok xD
[07:29] <jende> norov: just the #
[07:29] <norov> on those that include multivese universe?
[07:29] <jende> the # uncomments a line as stated in the beginning of the sources.list
[07:29] <zen> wow a verry busy time of night day or whatever it is whereever you are lol
[07:30] <zen> its nearly 4 am here
[07:30] <norov> because i get a wall of text and every line starts with #
[07:30] <jende> norov: give me your email addi
[07:30] <zen> the # is a disabled message that linux dont respond to
[07:30] <ad> jnde : is chroot in the bootmenu ?
[07:30] <zen> if you remove the # you get a enabled comment
[07:30] <jende> ad: no
[07:31] <jende> ad: you have to boot in rescue mode
[07:31] <jende> ad: then you have to mount your hda1
[07:31] <zen> jende:  what line is norov looking for
[07:31] <norov> Pm disabled :o
[07:31] <Mando> kossosyos
[07:31] <ad> jende: and rescue mode is not in the bootmenu ?! How an I get it so ?
[07:32] <jende> zen: multiverse universe
[07:32] <zen> ok
[07:32] <jende> ad: rescue is in there but not chroot
[07:32] <zen> norov: can you find that text multiverse
[07:32] <Dr_willis> There is no chroot grub entry
[07:32] <norov> yes, there are 2 lines
[07:32] <ad> jende: so what is the method to recover  sytem ?
[07:32] <jende> Dr_willis: and it has never been there
[07:32] <zen> paste them here so i can see what you see
[07:33] <|lostbyte|> !webcam
[07:33] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:33] <jende> ad: get into the recover mode
[07:33] <norov> # deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:33] <norov> # deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:33] <jende> ad: the mount hda1
[07:33] <Mando> somebody help!
[07:33] <norov> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[07:33] <norov> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[07:33] <norov> these too
[07:33] <jende> ad: sudo mount /hda1 /mnt
[07:33] <zen> how far down the file are they
[07:34] <norov> er
[07:34] <norov> mind if i paste it all ? xD
[07:34] <Dr_willis> jende,  yea. thats what i was thinking. Talk about a security risk.
[07:34] <zen> ok dont worry about that
[07:34] <zen> how many lines
[07:34] <norov> 7th from bottom
[07:34] <ad> jende: hda2 for me if you talk about the ext3 system partition
[07:34] <zen> ok dont paste
[07:34] <jende> Dr_willis: since when is that a security risk?
[07:34] <norov> the one with universe multiverse
[07:34] <jende> ad: yep
[07:34] <ad> And when it is mount ; what should Ido ?
[07:34] <zen> norov:  paste that one
[07:35] <norov> there are 2
[07:35] <norov> # deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:35] <norov> # deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:35] <jende> ad: sorry, just wait a mom...tel.call
[07:35] <zain> is there a way to change the clock to 12 hour
[07:35] <zen> remove the hash on both of them
[07:35] <norov> What is comment and uncomment?
[07:36] <norov> i cant modify anything
[07:36] <ad> jende: np i wait
[07:36] <zen> and save file and try apt get again
[07:36] <fildo> norov: " #" comment > commout out "no hash"
[07:36] <zen> dam you dont have root privelages there
[07:36] <zen> you need them to edit that file
[07:37] <Dr_willis> jende,  i would consider it a risk to have some 'easy to gety to chroot'  menu item.. but i also tend to password progect the grub entries as well.. gues si am paranoid
[07:37] <Dr_willis> jende,  of course since it dont exist.. :)
[07:38] <ad> Dr_willis: jende How can i recovemy system once in the recover mode ?
[07:38] <norov> ok now i cant even open the file
[07:38] <Dr_willis> ad,  you basicially get a root shell. and do whatever you need to do.. i dont know what your specific problem is.
[07:39] <zen> neither does he im guessing
[07:39] <ad> Dr_willis: i have segmentation fault ! I m in a simple shell !
[07:39] <jende> ad: sudo chroot /mnt
[07:40] <norov> wth
[07:40] <norov> i cant modify the text
[07:40] <rawrness> wow my computer must not like streaming stuff........
[07:40] <ad> jende: i m in a simple shell !
[07:40] <ad> no dddddddsudo
[07:40] <jende> ad: good
[07:40] <ad> no sudo
[07:41] <jende> ad: have you mounted /dev/hdax
[07:41] <jende> ad: whereby x is the number of the device
[07:42] <zen> norov:  i dont knwo how to tell you to get controll over that file but untill you do you wont be able to change it
[07:42] <jende> ad: you need/have to mount
[07:42] <zen> and hence wont be able to get firefox installed
[07:42] <zen> unless you just go to the menu at the top of the screen
[07:42] <jende> zen: norov has forgot to press the INSERT key
[07:43] <zen> lol ok
[07:43] <ad> jende: error mnt no such file or directry
[07:43] <zen> ok norov press the insert key and remove those 2 #
[07:43] <jende> ad: on which hda is / <- root
[07:44] <ad> jende: hda2
[07:44] <zen> do you have windows also installed or just the single copy of linux
[07:44] <jende> ad: okay, so what have you typed exactly
[07:44] <ad> I tried several mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[07:44] <ad> jende:
[07:44] <norov> Insert = enter, right?
[07:45] <norov> nvm
[07:45] <zen> no
[07:45] <norov> NVM
[07:45] <jende> ad: and no SUDO???
[07:45] <ad> no
[07:45] <zen> insert is next to my backspace key on my keyboard
[07:45] <Dr_willis> insert/overwrite mode :)
[07:45] <ad> jende: maybe I can try a different kernel in the boot menu ?
[07:45] <zen> sorry norov was looking down
[07:45] <jende> you have to type as I said: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[07:45] <jende> zen: me too
[07:46] <zen> 3.47 in the morning here
[07:46] <ian|> Hi! Is there a way to configure the X Screen Resolution in KDE 3.5.5 (kubuntu edgy)?
[07:46] <ian|> Or do I have to change the xorg.conf?
[07:46] <ad> jende: sudo not found
[07:46] <norov> okay the #s are gone
[07:46] <zen> sweeet
[07:46] <jende> ad: type whoami
[07:46] <norov> how do i save now?
[07:47] <jende> norov:
[07:47] <jende> norov: :wq
[07:47] <ad> jende: sudo not found
[07:47] <jende> ad: type whoami
[07:47] <ad> jende: whoami not found i meant
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> ian|: probable easier to manually modify xorg.conf, but before you do make a copy of it
[07:47] <jende> ad: thats more than just weird
[07:48] <norov> :wq? O.o
[07:48] <ian|> TheGateKeeper, i already did .. (the change, not the copy.. ;-) ) -
[07:48] <TheGateKeeper> !fixRes > ian|
[07:48] <zen> jende:  let him just run the kde install prolly faster and easier at this point
[07:48] <Skrot-> !fixRes > Skrot-
[07:48] <zen> wont hurt his fiels either will it
[07:49] <jende> norov: press the key ":" and then "wq" without the "
[07:49] <zen> while its not desired it will work
[07:49] <ad> jende: i think i could have a "true" console using a different menu mode
[07:49] <jende> ad: just give it a go
[07:49] <zen> like ctrl alt del only : w q
[07:49] <ad> jende: sorry ?
[07:49] <ian|> TheGateKeeper, this worked for me, i'm just curious if there is a similar function in the kontrolcenter like it was in 3.5.3...
[07:49] <ad> jende: you want me to try it ?
[07:50] <jende> ad: just reboot with a different kernel
[07:50] <ad> ok
[07:50] <ian|> However, changing the resolution resulted in very small fonts... Is there a default way in xorg.conf to choose bigger fonts? (Lower dpi?)
[07:50] <jende> norov: has your sources.list been modified and saved now
[07:50] <norov> no
[07:50] <zen> like ctrl alt del only : w q
[07:51] <TheGateKeeper> ian|: I think you can use a setting in system settings, but in my experience it doesn't work very well
[07:51] <jende> norov: haven't you read what zen I told you?
[07:51] <zen> those 3 keys please norov
[07:51] <norov> im trying to fix the first msg that pops when i type sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:51] <norov> it says
[07:51] <norov> there is a swap file bla bla
[07:51] <TheGateKeeper> ian|: you using edge of just upgraded kde?
[07:51] <Skrot-> Hi. How can I force alsa to set another index to a specific sound card?
[07:52] <ian|> TheGateKeeper, yes
[07:52] <ian|> TheGateKeeper, i need the new digikam version....
[07:52] <jende> norov: so, basically you haven't done really what we have told you
[07:52] <ad> jende: ok i mount the hda2 in the second kernet
[07:52] <zen> tried to but i guess he gets confused easily
[07:52] <J_L_Ctba> portugues
[07:53] <jende> norov: type in the terminal: cd /etc/apt
[07:53] <jende> norov: and then type ls -l
[07:53] <zen> hey jende wanna look at that link now ?
[07:53] <J_L_Ctba> algum entende portugus
[07:53] <norov> wait, wait
[07:53] <norov> i modified
[07:53] <ad> jende: i did sudo chroot /mnt too !
[07:53] <zen> noice
[07:53] <norov> and wrote :wq where the marker was
[07:53] <jende> ad: and
[07:53] <norov> now what?
[07:53] <coreymon77> !portuguese
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portuguese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <ad> jende: what next ?
[07:54] <coreymon77> !portugueese
[07:54] <jende> ad
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portugueese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <norov> now i just close the shell?
[07:54] <jende> ad: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:55] <zen> dam i feel sorry for you jende
[07:55] <zain> linux sees the sound card but there is no sound
[07:55] <jende> ad: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:55] <ad> jende: error :\ my ifconfig  generate a error !
[07:55] <jende> ad: what error?
[07:55] <zen> where r u i the world
[07:55] <norov> :wq deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:55] <norov>  deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:55] <jende> zen: I'm grounded i bloody germany
[07:56] <zen> bugger
[07:56] <jende> zen: it is :-(
[07:56] <zen> so its like 6 pm there
[07:56] <ad> jende: can not open /proc/net/dev
[07:56] <jende> zen: its about 8ish
[07:56] <zen> coolios
[07:56] <norov> isnt there like a linux channel?
[07:56] <zen> yeah heaps of them
[07:56] <jende> ad: isn't /proc/net/dev on hda2?
[07:57] <zen> what server you wanna go to
[07:57] <norov> doesnt matter
[07:57] <jende> norov: what about the kubuntu channel
[07:57] <norov> just need a support channel
[07:57] <jende> norov: or the debian one
[07:57] <slop> norov, there's #lfd
[07:57] <ad> jende: it is a warning : limited output
[07:57] <norov> thanks
[07:58] <argento> hi I have a noobish question
[07:58] <argento> I want to use kubuntu
[07:58] <jende> ad: is /proc/net/dev/ on hda 2 or on a different hda?
[07:58] <zain> can someone tell me why this isnt working
[07:58] <zain> it sees the sound card but there is no sound
[07:58] <slop> argento, use it! :D
[07:58] <argento> should I add repositories?
[07:58] <slop> argento, definately
[07:59] <jende> norov: am I right if I say, that ahead of that one line is ":wq"?
[07:59] <zen> yep
[07:59] <argento> I found http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:59] <jende> zen: then he hasn't saved it
[07:59] <norov> ok lets start over
[07:59] <zen> yep
[07:59] <norov> i've removed #s
[08:00] <slop> argento, http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg22t04.htm
[08:00] <norov> and then i type :wq?
[08:00] <jende> norov: and PLEASE remove the :wg i that one line
[08:00] <jende> norov: maybe you have to press first the ESC key and then :wq
[08:00] <jende> ad
[08:00] <norov> say so then xD
[08:00] <norov> done
[08:00] <zain> !alsa
[08:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:01] <norov> and now that -ls -l?
[08:01] <ad> jende : hda2 seems not mounted
[08:01] <ad> jende: I mounted it but
[08:01] <jende> ad: thats weird
[08:01] <ad> yes :\
[08:01] <jende> ad: but...?
[08:01] <ad> jende: but it is not mounted !
[08:01] <jende> norov: now, you dont have to make an ls-l
[08:02] <ad> jende:  and  e command doesnt return error
[08:02] <norov> so i just try installing now?
[08:02] <jende> norov: yes
[08:02] <zen2> yay now im able to pm lol
[08:02] <norov> same error still
[08:03] <norov> what is "vi"
[08:03] <norov> in sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <argento> so should I add kde-lastest amorok-lastest and koffice-lastest or are them included in the default ubuntu repositories?
[08:03] <jende> norov: the editor
[08:03] <pedro> Hello everyone
[08:03] <norov> oh
[08:03] <norov> and sudo?
[08:03] <jende> ad: I guess your system must have crashed hardy
[08:03] <rawrness> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KL78ufx2Yw tightest solo ever
[08:03] <jende> hardy=hardly
[08:03] <zain> there is no master sound controller
[08:03] <zain> why would this be
[08:04] <ad> jende: i think so :\ so is there a way to recover my data ?
[08:04] <jende> norov: a command to become the rights if the systemadministrator
[08:04] <jende> ad: have you got something like partition magic
[08:04] <norov> i cant PM
[08:04] <norov> :S
[08:04] <pedro> Recently mu system was automatically updated by adept and now I have a break package How can I solve it?
[08:04] <pedro> The package is lisa
[08:04] <jende> pedro: apt-get -f install
[08:05] <ad> jende: yes
[08:05] <jende> pedro: it might take some time
[08:05] <pedro> Is that the solution?
[08:05] <ad> jende: on my windows hda1
[08:05] <jende> ad: with that tool you can create an image of hda2
[08:05] <jende> pedro: could be
[08:05] <benkong2> I have a perfectly good Network Manager Setup running Kubuntu. I just installed Ubuntu-Desktop. If I want to get NM working there any issues I need to be aware of?
[08:06] <ad> jende: is this the only way ? A ghost ?
[08:06] <pedro> I did it and I have still the error
[08:06] <jende> ad: nope, you got me wrong...create the image using burn image on CD
[08:07] <jende> pedro: what are depency problems?
[08:07] <pedro> I don't know exactly
[08:07] <Hawkwind> !repos > Hawkwind
[08:07] <pedro> How can I know? Sorry but I am newbie
[08:07] <jende> pedro: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:07] <ad> jende: so only way
[08:07] <ad> ?
[08:07] <jende> ad: in your case it seems to be so
[08:07] <jende> ad: sorry
[08:08] <jende> pedro: then sudo apt-get -f install
[08:08] <pedro> Well, it looks like it is an error at the moment of configuring lisa
[08:08] <pedro> that command doesn't work
[08:08] <ad> jende: :\ this craches is due to a update ... and a no official pack for my modem ... Pfff .. I m fed up...
[08:08] <jende> pedro: which command doesn't work
[08:08] <pedro> Starting LAN Information Server: invoke-rc.d: initscript lisa, action "start" failed.
[08:09] <pedro> apt-get -f install
[08:09] <ad> jende: everything worked fine before the update
[08:09] <jende> pedro: sudo............
[08:09] <zain> i'm getting so mad
[08:09] <zain> in xorg it only sees the onboard
[08:09] <zain> i cant disable it in the bios
[08:09] <zain> its a auto
[08:09] <pedro> jende: the command "sudo apt-get -f install" doesn't work
[08:09] <jende> pedro: impossible
[08:09] <zain> i'm on a geforce fx and linux sees it in the properties
[08:10] <zain> but in xorg.conf its only seeing the onboard
[08:10] <zain> someone help
[08:10] <jende> pedro: are you on terminal/console mode?
[08:10] <jende> ad: are you running grub or lilo
[08:10] <pedro> Maybe the error is not a broken package
[08:10] <ad> jende: grub
[08:11] <jende> ad: google fix mbr grub
[08:11] <pedro> that was the error before, but I did a new upgrade and now the error is relative to lisa and the action "start" of it
[08:11] <pedro> Yes, I am in a console line
[08:11] <ad> jende: there is no prob with grub ?!
[08:11] <jende> ad: the master boot record might have become some bad entries
[08:11] <ad> jende: nevermind ... I give up
[08:12] <jende> pedro: if you are, sudo should be known as a command as well as apt-get -f install
[08:12] <jende> pedro: once again sudo apt-get -f install
[08:13] <ad> jende : it boots at begining ok.  I can see the ubuntu logo and several ok ....... . then it craches :\
[08:13] <jende> ad: nope
[08:13] <jende> ad: so, we have to try to bring you somehow into the chroot
[08:13] <mato> hi girls
[08:13] <mato> hi boys
[08:13] <mato> hi everyone
[08:13] <jende> mato: hi
[08:13] <ad> jende: thanks for your support ... Gonna  sava and owerwrite ...
[08:14] <pedro> jende: I don't know what is your spanish level, but here is the result of the command "sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:14] <pedro> http://www.mypastebin.com/?code=1413983268
[08:14] <jende> pedro: i don't spek spanish at all
[08:14] <mato> maybe you will ban me for this but..
[08:15] <mato> Is this sentence gramatically correct?
[08:15] <mato> As well as you will have more fun playing computer games in your free time especially if weather goes bad.
[08:15] <pedro> well, I can tell you that apt-get show that 1 package is not completely installed
[08:15] <pedro> that is "lisa" y apt cannot configure it
[08:15] <jende> pedro: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:16] <pedro> ok
[08:16] <pedro> the same result
[08:16] <norov> is there some kind of process manager ?
[08:16] <norov> so i can see processes
[08:16] <jende> pedro: try sudo apt-get clean
[08:16] <mato> OK I am banning myself. Bye
[08:16] <pedro> making it
[08:17] <|Mikael|> hi there. i just ripped the stream of shoutcast servers. anyway. i am not able to seek some mp3 streams.
[08:17] <jende> pedro: and then apt-get install lisa
[08:17] <ad> jende: I m overwrting ... I m mdifying the partitions ... How to proceed ? Must I del my ext3 and install on it ?
[08:17] <LeeJunFan> it appears lisa is installed, it's just that it won't start. It's not an apt-get problem but a problem with lisa itself.
[08:17] <pedro> ok
[08:17] <josh__> ok someone help plz
[08:17] <|Mikael|> are there any programms out there to repair this issue?
[08:17] <LeeJunFan> it's failing when it trys to start /etc/init.d/lisa start
[08:17] <josh__> im in here all the time helping u guys and now i need it
[08:17] <|Mikael|> what's up josh__
[08:17] <jende> ad: it'll be overwritten by the Kubuntu Installer anyway
[08:17] <pedro> mmm
[08:17] <pedro> the error is still there
[08:17] <LeeJunFan> josh__: this isn't the place to ask for bail money :)
[08:17] <josh__> ok well i need someone to walk me through installing alsa drivers
[08:18] <jende> pedro: hold on...
[08:18] <josh__> i know this is noobish but its confusing as hell
[08:18] <josh__> *crickets*
[08:18] <ad> jende: yes but it wants to write all over the disk ! windows and linux !!
[08:18] <josh__> ok then i dont this anyone wants to help
[08:18] <ad> I don't want to loose windows
[08:18] <josh__> think*
[08:19] <|Mikael|> josh__: what isn't working with alsa?
[08:19] <pedro> ok, I am here
[08:19] <jende> ad: no,no, no you have to chosse MANUAL PARTITION or something similar in the menu
[08:19] <ad> jende: it says I have not choose a root for install     :\
[08:19] <josh__> the sound
[08:19] <josh__> its in kmix and there are controls
[08:19] <josh__> but there is no sound
[08:19] <ad> jende: i ve chosen it
[08:19] <josh__> there's not even a master volume which is really wierd
[08:19] <jende> pedro: have you modidfied as yet your sources.list?
[08:20] <|Mikael|> josh__: okay. keep cool
[08:20] <|Mikael|> sudo alsa-mixer in terminal
[08:20] <|Mikael|> unmute the channels (with m) and save this
[08:20] <pedro> I modified it a time ago
[08:20] <jende> ad: it should show you a fat32 pertition and the ext3 partition
[08:20] <|Mikael|> the most errors are cause of mute
[08:20] <ad> jende: I can see swap (N5) and ext3 (N2)
[08:20] <ad> and the other of course
[08:21] <ad> jende: What must I choose for ext3 ?
[08:21] <josh__> command not found?
[08:21] <|Mikael|> sudo alsamixer
[08:21] <|Mikael|> my fault
[08:21] <ad> jende: mounting point is /media/hda2 for now ...
[08:21] <josh__> ok
[08:21] <josh__> now what
[08:22] <|Mikael|> but try to use always the command beginning like alsa- and then press <tab>
[08:22] <|Mikael|> you shoult be used to it ;)
[08:22] <ad> jende: Should I change to / ?
[08:22] <|Mikael|> unmute all channels
[08:22] <|Mikael|> with m
[08:22] <|Mikael|> arrow-right , then m
[08:22] <jende> ad: yes
[08:22] <|Mikael|> so unmute them all
[08:22] <jende> pedro: so check on it
[08:22] <josh__> there isnt even buttons
[08:22] <josh__> its all sliders
[08:22] <josh__> front rear and side and stuff
[08:22] <|Mikael|> up and down
[08:23] <|Mikael|> yeah
[08:23] <ad> jende: ok .. What about swap partition ?
[08:23] <|Mikael|> brb
[08:23] <ad> jende : nothing to do ?
[08:23] <josh__> and the only ones who are down are the spdif ones which i know i dont need
[08:23] <ad> on this swap ?
[08:23] <ad> jende: linux will erwrite it anyway ?
[08:23] <jende> ad: yep
[08:23] <ad> overwrite *
[08:23] <ad> ok ...
[08:23] <|Mikael|> yeah. but anyway change everywhere the controls
[08:24] <|Mikael|> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/de/alsa-guide.xml#doc_chap3_fig1
[08:24] <pedro> do I wait for a posible solution to my problem?
[08:24] <|Mikael|> pedro just do it
[08:24] <jende> pedro: have you Uuncomment the lines with .......multiverse universe?
[08:24] <|Mikael|> because like i said most errors are because the sound is muted
[08:24] <|Mikael|> if you iinstalled alsa then it should work
[08:24] <pedro> nop
[08:24] <jende> pedro: that's the error
[08:25] <pedro> ah, sorry
[08:25] <pedro> yes I did it
[08:25] <|Mikael|> pedro: it's german. sry here http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml#doc_chap3_fig1
[08:25] <|Mikael|> english
[08:25] <|Mikael|> ok. then i am wrong :)
[08:25] <|Mikael|> i guess jende is going on
[08:25] <norov> jende: thanks for the help
[08:25] <norov> i found a guide
[08:26] <jende> norov: how are we now with your dramas?
[08:26] <norov> you can modify the text easier with adept manager
[08:26] <norov> problem solved
[08:26] <norov> now all i need is a msn client
[08:26] <jende> norov: for all commands / programs we have man(ual) pages
[08:26] <zeratul_> j
[08:27] <jende> norov: try on a console for example sudo man vi
[08:27] <norov> btw
[08:27] <norov> alt+f2
[08:27] <norov> isnt a terminal, or?
[08:27] <jende> pedro: what tells you apt-cache search lisa
[08:27] <jende> norov: thats right
[08:28] <pedro> a lot of packages
[08:29] <jende> pedro: thats good
[08:29] <jende> pedro: now make a apt-cache policy lisa
[08:30] <norov> adept manager really is nice
[08:30] <jende> norov: depends
[08:30] <pedro> http://www.mypastebin.com/?code=581860505
[08:31] <jende> pedro: now type sudo lisa --configure
[08:31] <norov> jende: what is the hotkey for konsole?
[08:32] <pedro> unrecognized option
[08:32] <norov> since you cant do anything with alt+f2
[08:32] <jende> norov: alt+f2
[08:32] <norov> nothing works in alt+f2 -.-
[08:32] <rawrness> mine is f12 ilove yakuake
[08:32] <norov> i have to open the konsole for the commands to work
[08:32] <pedro> a question about this, Do I need lisa?
[08:32] <jende> pedro: type apt-get remove --purge lisa
[08:32] <pedro> What is for that package?
[08:32] <jende> norov: thats why it is a console
[08:33] <jende> pedro: nope
[08:33] <pedro> I am deleting it
[08:33] <pedro> what is for "lisa" package?
[08:33] <jende> pedro: yes using: sudo apt-get remove lisa
[08:34] <norov> name a good IM client
[08:34] <jende> pedro: then apt-get clean
[08:34] <jende> norov: in a console type: sudo apt-get install gaim
[08:34] <pedro> Done
[08:34] <jende> pedro: reboot
[08:36] <jende> norov: have you done it?
[08:36] <norov> yep
[08:36] <pedro> do I have anythint else after reboot?
[08:36] <norov> getting error
[08:36] <jende> norov: like?
[08:37] <jende> pedro: you'll be fine afterwards, I guess
[08:37] <norov> E: Kunde inte erhlla lset /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:37] <norov> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:37] <jende> norov: so, you#re not "sudo"
[08:37] <norov> i am :O
[08:37] <jende> norov: would you mind doing what I'm telling you?
[08:38] <norov> i am :(
[08:38] <|Mikael|> norov: use sudo "command" or use sudo -s (to be root more than temporarily)
[08:38] <pedro> But, is necesary to reinstall lisa?
[08:38] <jende> norov: is adept still running
[08:38] <norov> norov@laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install gaim
[08:38] <norov> E: Kunde inte erhlla lset /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:38] <norov> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:38] <norov> yes
[08:38] <|Mikael|> close it!
[08:38] <norov> ah
[08:38] <jende> pedro: what do you need to reinstall lisa if you don't need it
[08:38] <norov> the package gaim isnt available
[08:38] <pedro> ;)
[08:38] <pedro> ok
[08:38] <pedro> rebooting
[08:39] <rawrness> wow weird konqueror plays sound but firefox don't XD
[08:39] <pedro> see you now
[08:39] <jende> norov: that's quite impossible
[08:39] <zblach_> hey, can i control amarok through the console?
[08:40] <zorglu_> zblach_: yep, using dcop. ask #amarok for details
[08:41] <jende> norov: open your packetmanager
[08:41] <jende> norov: which should be adept
[08:41] <zblach_> zorglu_: thanks. that's all i needed to know
[08:41] <norov> done
[08:42] <ad> jende: do you need if there is a fix for this : fat32 part ->  gives a square ?!
[08:42] <jende> then you can choose INTERNET
[08:42] <jende> and on the top of the list you can choose all - KDE - Gnome
[08:42] <bogo> does anyone know how to clear the cache from apt? I was using easyubuntu to install stuff but it froze since it wasn't able to download msFonts. Now, every time I run apt it wants to continue installing those packages
[08:43] <ad> jende : do you know *
[08:43] <jende> ad: I don't get you, to be honest
[08:43] <ad> jende: i got square in file/dir name intead '' for fat32 partition
[08:44] <jende> ad: haven't seen that yet
[08:44] <ad> jende: ok
[08:44] <zorglu_> bogo: 'sudo apt-get clean'
[08:44] <jende> ad: but that is because I haven't touched any windows for quite a while
[08:45] <jende> norov: is adept still open?
[08:46] <jende> norov: have you figured out maybe yourself how to install gaim using adept?
[08:46] <norov> yep
[08:46] <norov> yep
[08:46] <norov> i seach on stuff
[08:46] <norov> like gaim and firefox
[08:46] <norov> all i find is plugins
[08:46] <goop2> any experienced open officers here?
[08:46] <norov> and extensions
[08:46] <jende> norov: great...nest time just let us now!
[08:46] <ubuntu> hola alguine espaol..............................................
[08:46] <goop2> OOo users
[08:46] <norov> sowwy
[08:47] <jende> norov: cause now I can go for dinner, I'm doing that in my rare spare time here, you know
[08:47] <goop2> anybody who uses open office here?
[08:47] <jende> goop2: yep
[08:48] <Digital_Pioneer> How can I make the right-click context menu for files say "Delete" rather than "Move to trash"?
[08:48] <goop2> jende: would you know how to type stuff into a live presentation? :)
[08:49] <jende> goop2: just a simple question: where are you from?
[08:49] <norov> bon apetit
[08:49] <goop2> jende: New Hampshire?
[08:49] <goop2> jende: is that what you mean?
[08:50] <rawrness> openoffice is laggy......
[08:50] <zorglu_> rawrness: add more memory
[08:50] <jende> goop2: As I'm not quite familiar with the presentation module I would presume to go to the OpenOffice.org IRC channel
[08:50] <goop2> well Im looking for an alternative to powerpoint
[08:50] <goop2> ok
[08:50] <norov> so now i enabled every single component on repositories
[08:50] <rawrness> zorglu: Ghetto poor
[08:51] <rawrness> more mem is about 40 bucks i can't afford
[08:51] <norov> AND NOW IT FINALLY WORKS
[08:51] <jende> goop2: as much as I remember it is #OpenOffice.org
[08:51] <norov> jende its working now 3
[08:51] <zorglu_> rawrness: endure the lag then :)
[08:51] <jende> norov: great
[08:51] <rawrness> anyone know where i can find a list of suites such as kedu?
[08:52] <jende> good night folks
[08:52] <norov> cya
[08:52] <jende> ad: are you doing fine?
[08:53] <jende> zen2: are you back?
[08:54] <jende> zen2_: are you back?
[08:54] <norov> he is sleeping
[08:54] <fildo> *gone
[08:54] <norov> jende:
[08:54] <jende> fair enough *G*
[08:54] <norov> hotkey for console?
[08:55] <jende> bfn
[08:55] <rawrness> filelight is a strange program
[08:56] <zorglu_> what is it ?
[08:56] <goop2> Im not having very good luck with my guitar today...
[08:57] <rawrness> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9887
[08:57] <goop2> I need a tuner :\
[08:57] <zorglu_> thasnks lookin
[08:58] <ad> jende : yes i m fine
[08:59] <kanesoban> Hello everyone. : ) Is here someone, who knows Wine well?
[09:00] <kanesoban> I'm having a little trouble emulating the game "Fallout". It works well, but only in window, i don't knoiw how to change it to fit the whole screen
[09:00] <kanesoban> i looked at winecfg, can't configure that there
[09:01] <Hawkwind> kanesoban: Try talking to the guys in #WineHQ ?
[09:01] <kanesoban> ok, i try there
[09:05] <intelikey> inster-aresting  if i ^Z background sox it stops playing  but if i  &  background sox it keeps playing      is that normally the way ^Z opposed to & works ?
[09:07] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: i fixed the driver issue... Kubuntu is off the "bad list"
[09:08] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd i'll give two days... it'll be back on the list...  :)
[09:08] <T3hWiz0rd> its been two now.. lol
[09:08] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: today is day two
[09:08] <intelikey> todays not over yet  :)
[09:08] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: everything is working. Customizing the way it runs a little now.
[09:09] <mutlu_inek> what are your experiences with edgy?
[09:09] <intelikey> customizing things  yeah that'll do it....
[09:09] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: im not a nub
[09:09] <main> hi all
[09:09] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: i rebuild my server on a regular basis to try new things lol
[09:09] <intelikey> i didn't accuse you of it...
[09:10] <Hawkwind> mutlu_inek: It's not final, nor stable yet.  Won't be released for another 2 weeks
[09:10] <main> anyone here from Hawaii
[09:10] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: rememeber the only problem I wsa having was with the nvidia drivers. As long as those work.
[09:10] <intelikey> i r'member
[09:11] <main> my nvidia drivers were causing a crash when i shut down or log off
[09:11] <main> FX5900
[09:11] <mutlu_inek> Hawkwind: I know it is not final, but I thought that I might install it and help testing if it is halfway stable. The only thing is that I don't have enought hdd space for two installations, so it should not wreck my system.
[09:11] <main> got a 440 on this box
[09:11] <zorglu_> any gtk+java code produce large memory leaks
[09:12] <zorglu_> the border of konqueror icon in file mode is boggus :)
[09:15] <Hawkwind> mutlu_inek: Talk to everyone in the Edgy channel, #Ubuntu+1 then
[09:15] <frojnd> which multiverse repos
[09:16] <mutlu_inek> Hawkwind: Ok. Thank you.
[09:16] <frojnd> which are multiverse repos*
[09:17] <frojnd> those one:
[09:17] <frojnd> # deb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[09:17] <frojnd> # deb-src http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[09:17] <frojnd> !universe
[09:17] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:17] <intelikey> frojnd no that's universe.   universe is universe   multiverse is multiverse   and  main is main
[09:18] <frojnd> can u paste me your universe and multiverse lines of ubuntu?
[09:19] <frojnd> nm it's in the link above..
[09:19] <Hawkwind> frojnd: Just add the word multiverse to the end of those lines
[09:19] <frojnd> k, tnx
[09:20] <norov> is there any way to see applications?
[09:20] <norov> like in win
[09:21] <TheGateKeeper> norov: elaborate please
[09:22] <norov> ctrl+shift+esc
[09:22] <norov> process manager or something
[09:22] <zorglu_> he mean system guard i think
[09:22] <mutlu_inek> ctrl+esc
[09:22] <TheGateKeeper> KSysGuard
[09:23] <TheGateKeeper> norov: System --> KSysGuard
[09:23] <norov> thanks
[09:23] <goop2> anybody know when edgy officialy comes out?
[09:23] <TheGateKeeper> norov: np :-)
[09:23] <frojnd> !xgl
[09:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:23] <mutlu_inek> 2 weeks from now
[09:23] <zorglu_> !schedule
[09:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:23] <goop2> sweet
[09:23] <Kubu> does anyone know how to install aMSN on edgy
[09:24] <intelikey> Kubu use gaim
[09:24] <TheGateKeeper> Kubu: apt-get install aMsn
[09:24] <intelikey> !amsn
[09:24] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[09:24] <norov> !linux
[09:24] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:25] <ubuntu> gff
[09:25] <ubuntu> g
[09:25] <willnapier> Hi - I would appreciate some advice about getting video4linux2 running in the dapper kernel. I have posted a full question on the kubuntu forum but thre haven't been any takers in 24 hrs - I hope it's ok to post the link here:
[09:25] <Kubu> TheGateKeeper: doesnt exist
[09:25] <willnapier> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=9860.msg39369#msg39369http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=9860.msg39369#msg39369
[09:25] <Kubu> :S
[09:25] <norov> so you cant install certain programs on linux platforms?
[09:25] <norov> like winamp
[09:25] <Hawkwind> !info amsn edgy
[09:25] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[09:25] <Kubu> suao apt-get install amsn doesn't exist
[09:25] <Hawkwind> Kubu: Yes it does ^^^^
[09:25] <Hawkwind> Kubu: Enable the universe repo then
[09:26] <Kubu> does it?
[09:26] <Kubu> doenst work for me, lets c
[09:26] <TheGateKeeper> cheers Hawkwind :-)
[09:26] <Hawkwind> Kubu: Yes, read the info above
[09:26] <Kubu> i know i thought i have activated universe repo
[09:26] <norov> navigating is kinda hard
[09:26] <T3hWiz0rd> Kubu: why are you trying to install amsn though?
[09:26] <mutlu_inek> Kubu: sudo apt-get update
[09:26] <Kubu> because i like it
[09:26] <mutlu_inek> then install
[09:27] <T3hWiz0rd> interesting lol
[09:27] <mutlu_inek> after adding repos you need to update the package info
[09:27] <mutlu_inek> Kubu: personally, i would recommend that you try kopete, it is installed by default
[09:28] <Kubu> oops, i had forgotten to update
[09:28] <Kubu> ^
[09:28] <Kubu> i have tried it
[09:28] <Kubu> but i prefer amsn
[09:28] <Kubu> maybe cause im used to the interface
[09:28] <mutlu_inek> np
[09:28] <Kubu> thanks
[09:28] <ian|> Is there any special opengl-Library for ATI (fglrx?)
[09:28] <TheGateKeeper> !ati
[09:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <TheGateKeeper> ian|: ^^^^^^
[09:29] <goop2> !edgy
[09:29] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:29] <ian|> I have problems running open-gl applications. glxinfo shows ATI as GLX vendor, but Mesa as opengl vendor.
[09:29] <norov> !schedule
[09:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:29] <goop2> I thought it was Eel
[09:29] <norov> so you have to install stuff all over again when a new version comes?
[09:29] <norov> or?
[09:30] <ian|> Furthermore Xorg-log shows that DRI has been loaded, but opengl apps complains about a missing DRI extension.
[09:30] <goop2> I think you can update with adept
[09:30] <norov> okay
[09:30] <TheGateKeeper> norov: you can update from dapper to edge
[09:31] <Kubu> when i updated from dapper to edgy
[09:31] <Kubu> it ***** everything up
[09:31] <goop2> lol
[09:31] <mutlu_inek> Kubu: it is not released yet
[09:31] <Kubu> true
[09:31] <Kubu> i blamed myself
[09:31] <mutlu_inek> using the upgrade mechanism will not work before it is released
[09:31] <goop2> its not stable
[09:31] <Kubu> but i had the edgy beta CD
[09:32] <Kubu> and i installed it
[09:32] <|Mikael|> arghh. this makes me crazy
[09:32] <khirr> xD
[09:32] <|Mikael|> i have a file named - Jocelyn Dee Mix Session.mp3
[09:33] <|Mikael|> how can i list it in the terminal
[09:33] <|Mikael|> this is crazy
[09:33] <josh_> what is the command to open a connection to another computer... not using ftp/ssh
[09:33] <martalli_> mutlu:  That's not true - I have adgy going on my work comp, my comp, and my kids' edubuntu
[09:33] <mutlu_inek> |Mikael|: list? it?
[09:33] <|Mikael|> no. sry
[09:33] <norov> what is this new desktop interface called?
[09:33] <|Mikael|> i want checkmp3 <filename>
[09:33] <norov> you desktop is a cube
[09:33] <|Mikael|> but i don't get the filename
[09:33] <|Mikael|> nothing works
[09:34] <mutlu_inek> martalli_: might be, but the upgrade mechanism is not reliable. many have complained that e.g. X could not be upgraded
[09:34] <|Mikael|> norov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk
[09:34] <Hawkwind> |Mikael|: Use tab completion
[09:34] <|Mikael|> Hawkwind: *?@
[09:34] <mutlu_inek> |Mikael|: type the beginning of the file name and hit <tab>
[09:34] <|Mikael|> Hawkwind: i tried this!
[09:34] <Hawkwind> |Mikael|: Type: checkmp3 Joc(hit the tab key here)
[09:34] <t3hwiz0rd-server> intelikey: this is my screened server irssi log in :-P
[09:34] <t3hwiz0rd-server> intelikey: it was sitting in #nobody for like 3 weeks now lol...
[09:34] <|Mikael|> the file name is " - J"
[09:34] <t3hwiz0rd-server> intelikey: forgot it was even screend.
[09:35] <Hawkwind> |Mikael|: The point is, type the first letter or two of the file name, then hit the tab key
[09:35] <mutlu_inek> |Mikael|: the type -\ J<tab>
[09:35] <martalli_> mutlu:  I think people might be getting confused between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade...but I actually did it witht he gui update-manager interface.  It can be called from the command line
[09:35] <|Mikael|> mutlu_inek: ah will try it
[09:35] <mutlu_inek> use the backslash before spaces
[09:36] <|Mikael|> beep, beep, beep
[09:36] <|Mikael|> saklfjsadlfjasklf
[09:36] <Hawkwind> Tab completion will do that automatically
[09:36] <|Mikael|> Hawkwind: :(
[09:36] <Hawkwind> |Mikael|: Just type - and then hit the tab key a couple of times
[09:36] <Goop2> will kde3.5.5 come default with edgy?
[09:36] <mutlu_inek> Goop2: yes
[09:36] <Goop2> or will I have to install it?
[09:36] <Goop2> ok
[09:37] <|Mikael|> ---@InDaBoX:~/downloads/mp3livestreams/Bassdrive - Music Beyond - 24-7 Drum and Bass Jungle Radio Featuring Live Shows$ checkmp3  - J
[09:37] <|Mikael|> J Laze - Summertime feat Ladee Berry.mp3  JuJu - Nomad.mp3                          Juju - The Streets.mp3
[09:37] <martalli_> This is the command to use update-manager: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[09:37] <martalli_> worked for me
[09:37] <|Mikael|> it dont work
[09:37] <|Mikael|> man this *x begins to make me crazy
[09:38] <Hawkwind> |Mikael|: Are you in the directory with the file itself ?
[09:38] <|Mikael|> yeah
[09:38] <Hawkwind> |Mikael|: Why not open up konqueror, go to the directory, and rename the file
[09:38] <|Mikael|> '/downloads/mp3livestreams/Bassdrive - Music Beyond - 24-7 Drum and Bass Jungle Radio Featuring Live Shows$
[09:38] <|Mikael|> Hawkwind: that's possible ;)
[09:38] <|lostbyte|> !scanner
[09:38] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[09:39] <Hawkwind> |Mikael|: Tell your client to save the files with _ instead of spaces until you learn how to use tab completion
[09:39] <|Mikael|> lol
[09:39] <|Mikael|> Hawkwind: :D
[09:39] <frojnd> does kubuntu 6.10 have VNC
[09:39] <khirr> guys, i'd like can do that my desktop looklike as screenshot in the websites
[09:39] <mutlu_inek> |Mikael|: "checkmp3  - J" is wrong
[09:39] <Lam_> does kwifimanager have support for WPA2 networks?
[09:39] <|Mikael|> - J
[09:40] <mutlu_inek> |Mikael|: "checkmp3  -"<tab> is right
[09:40] <Hawkwind> frojnd: If you're running Edgy, you should speak to the guys in #Ubuntu+1
[09:40] <Hawkwind> frojnd: However, the answer is yes, it comes with vnc
[09:40] <fowlduck> Lam_: google would know
[09:40] <khirr> xD
[09:40] <mutlu_inek> khirr: that is a little few info
[09:40] <khirr> uhmm
[09:40] <khirr> let me check
[09:40] <intelikey> google don't ever answer my questions  it just makes me forget what the question was......
[09:40] <khirr> i'll give u the website
[09:41] <fowlduck> frojnd: it also comes with freeNX, you should check it out
[09:41] <fowlduck> intelikey: haha :)
[09:41] <|Mikael|> mutlu_inek: the filename is " - Jocelyn Dee Mix Session.mp3"
[09:41] <t3hwiz0rd-server> !xgl
[09:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:41] <intelikey> :)
[09:42] <mutlu_inek> |Mikael|: oh! it starts with a SPACE?
[09:42] <|Mikael|> yeah
[09:42] <mutlu_inek> |Mikael|: then do: "checkmp3  \ -"<tab>
[09:43] <mutlu_inek> backspace sends spaces as characters
[09:43] <fowlduck> backslash
[09:43] <mutlu_inek> so always do backspace+ space
[09:43] <mutlu_inek> yeah, sorry
[09:43] <fowlduck> np ;-)
[09:43] <|Mikael|> mutlu_inek: between \ SPACE -?
[09:43] <mutlu_inek> lol
[09:43] <|Mikael|> ah
[09:43] <norov> guys, i got a folder with flash installation file in it
[09:43] <norov> how to install?
[09:43] <|Mikael|> will try it now
[09:43] <|Mikael|> norov: !xgl
[09:44] <|Mikael|> !xgl
[09:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:44] <norov> O.o
[09:44] <|Mikael|> norov: sry wrong :)
[09:44] <norov> ok =p
[09:44] <frojnd> !xine
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <fowlduck> |Mikael|: \ lets you "escape" the normal behavior of the following character.  In this case, it changes the default behavior of removing the space, and leave it there, escaping its' normal behavior
[09:44] <|Mikael|> ./flash_installer
[09:44] <|Mikael|> fowlduck: kk
[09:45] <norov> ah
[09:45] <norov> i run it in terminal
[09:45] <|Mikael|> right
[09:45] <TheGateKeeper> norov: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:45] <frojnd> why my Kmenu doesn't wanna refresh new applications. Is there any command to force Kmenu showing nex applications?
[09:46] <frojnd> new*
[09:47] <norov> TheGateKeeper:  thanks
[09:47] <TheGateKeeper> norov: yw :-)
[09:48] <intelikey> frojnd someone said that   update-menus  doesn't do it for kde   so use   something about build ksycoco      not sure about syntax
[09:49] <intelikey> kbuildsycoca
[09:49] <intelikey> check kde docs on the syntax
[09:50] <rawrness> gag
[09:50] <rawrness> install games with adept where day go......
[09:50] <rawrness> i sure don't see any
[09:51] <yvonne> Hello all
[09:52] <mutlu_inek> hi
[09:52] <yvonne> i'm trying to view this site and it's telling me that i require java
[09:52] <yvonne> i've just installed jave using the command apt-get install java-package
[09:52] <intelikey> rawrness cli apps are not added to a gui menu   gui apps should be added....    but at any rate you can always open a term and type in the name of the app/game
[09:52] <yvonne> gone back to the site and it's still saying i need java but it's saying javaruntime !! are they two different things?
[09:53] <intelikey> frojnd and rawrness maybe.  kbuildsycoca --incremental
[09:54] <rawrness> I see
[09:55] <frojnd> intelikey doesn't work, but I have a couple more q
[09:55] <mutlu_inek> yvonne: apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[09:55] <norov> TheGateKeeper:  could you link that again please
[09:55] <frojnd> why my amarok and kaffeine doesn't wanna play
[09:55] <frojnd> I've installed amarok-xine and kaffeine-xine
[09:55] <frojnd> but still nothing
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> norov: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:56] <mutlu_inek> yvonne: then kins knetworkmanager
[09:56] <mutlu_inek> sorry
[09:56] <intelikey> rawrness & frojnd when using a terminal (konsole) to run any command use the [tab]  key to complete the entry  that both checks the spelling and saves time.
[09:56] <norov> konqueror is still opening links
[09:56] <mutlu_inek> yvonne: then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:56] <norov> how to change that to ff?
[09:56] <intelikey> !mp3 > frojnd
[09:56] <TheGateKeeper> norov: bookmark ---> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[09:56] <mutlu_inek> yvonne: the second line i sent was a mistake
[09:57] <mutlu_inek> yvonne: first and third command are correct
[09:57] <zain> !mp3
[09:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:57] <mutlu_inek> yvonne: after the java select command you have to choose the new sun-java5
[09:58] <Liet> does anybody knows how to fix the problem of after upgrade to 3.5.5 USB pen drive won't mount?
[09:59] <intelikey> Liet ah don't upgrade to 3.5.5.... :)      but that's not what you want.
[09:59] <Sebien> Hello all.
[10:00] <Liet> but now I can't return to 3.4.4
[10:02] <intelikey> did edgy default to 3.5.5 kde  ???
[10:02] <Tm_T> intelikey: Yes.
[10:03] <cox377> !mp3
[10:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:03] <Tm_T> intelikey: Problem with that?
[10:03] <intelikey> figures.  sacrifice stability for eye candy  that's the ubuntu way i guess.
[10:03] <mutlu_inek> intelikey: what?
[10:03] <Tm_T> intelikey: Err, 3.5.5 is mostly bugfix release.
[10:04] <Liet> When I plug in the USB drive and say to show in a new window, nothing happens on screen.
[10:04] <intelikey> Tm_T but every is having problems with it.
[10:04] <Liet> In Konqueror I go to media and try to mount it with a right click on the icon and there is an error message is in a window titled 'Error - kio_media_mc' and the message is 'An unknown error occured'
[10:04] <Tm_T> intelikey: Most that I know have less problems than with 3.5.4
[10:04] <mutlu_inek> intelikey: then that is the kubuntu people's fault, not kde's
[10:05] <Tm_T> Liet: Dapper?
[10:05] <Liet> yes, dapper
[10:05] <Liet> I can still mount it manulally, as sudo, typing commands
[10:06] <mutlu_inek> i guess pmount is fu*ked up then
[10:07] <intelikey> Tm_T maybe so.
[10:07] <Tm_T> intelikey: You have good reason to be worried, but I can't see any better option, I mean, it's bugfixrelease mainly, if we package it badly, it's our mistake.
[10:08] <Tm_T> And must be solved.
[10:08] <intelikey> Tm_T fair enough.
[10:08] <mutlu_inek> Liet: file a bug report
[10:09] <Liet> ok, in what web I have to do that?
[10:09] <Tm_T> mutlu_inek: Liet: I bet there's bug report already, so doublecheck ;)
[10:09] <intelikey> mutlu_inek i think that's already a well known and maybe fixed bug
[10:09] <intelikey> Liet search for that bug on malone
[10:10] <norov> how do i make alt+f2 run in terminal window all the time?
[10:10] <Liet> what's malone?
[10:11] <intelikey> web site   mal==bad   one
[10:11] <intelikey> norov isn't there already a hotkey to open konsole
[10:11] <norov> what version of KDE is on Kubuntu 6.06?
[10:12] <Liet> and can you give me the adress?
[10:12] <norov> i dunno :O
[10:12] <intelikey> 3.5.2
[10:12] <norov> thats what im wondering
[10:12] <norov> thanks
[10:12] <cox377> I dont know if anyone can help, whenever i application asks for a location directory i dont know how to get to a network drive from the list given. it shows all local directories but i dont know hpow to get to network shares
[10:12] <intelikey> !malone
[10:12] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:12] <ypsila> moin
[10:13] <Liet> is the same of Ubuntu? I have reported bug to ubuntu other times
[10:13] <intelikey> yes it's the same
[10:13] <intelikey> *buntu is one OS
[10:13] <Liet> ok, ok
[10:14] <cox377> Hello?
[10:14] <Skrot-> Riddell: Ping?
[10:14] <Liet> I'm new in kubuntu, but I used ubuntu since the first version
[10:14] <khirr> guys, how can i change my root pass?
[10:14] <khirr> what is the command?
[10:14] <mutlu_inek> cox377: in konqueror type system:/remote and navigate there
[10:15] <khirr> no no
[10:15] <intelikey> kubuntu is just K + ubuntu - gnome = kubuntu
[10:15] <khirr> on konsole
[10:15] <PauloChiva> sudo su
[10:15] <PauloChiva> passwd
[10:15] <intelikey> PauloChiva hehhe    sudo passwd
[10:15] <intelikey> save key strokes
[10:16] <intelikey> khirr you probably don't yet have a root passwd
[10:16] <intelikey> !sudo
[10:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:16] <intelikey> khirr you might read that ^
[10:17] <unix_infidel> save keystrokes?
[10:17] <cox377> mutlu_inek: the thing is, when an application asks u to browse for a file on the left the only main options u have are filesystem / user / desktop
[10:17] <khirr> i done :D
[10:17] <khirr> ty
[10:17] <Goop2> intelikey: use dvorak, less typing movement :P
[10:17] <ypsila> :-D
[10:17] <unix_infidel> well you could always use a keymap to change your querty into dvorak?
[10:17] <Goop2> yep
[10:17] <intelikey> Goop2 more for me...  if you have to backspace and retype five times   :)
[10:18] <ypsila> :-D
[10:18] <Goop2> hehe
[10:18] <Goop2> it does take some learning :P
[10:18] <mikael_> hi there. i just svn't for the first time. now i need to know how can i install the package?
[10:18] <miyako> I'm getting ready to go buy a printer, and I haven't messed with printing under linux in several years- back when it was a real pain to get printers working at all, can anyone recommend a brand that is well supported under Linux?
[10:19] <khirr> one of u, have installed Mercury Msn?
[10:19] <cox377> mutlu_inek: `do u know what i mean?
[10:19] <Goop2> when I start up it says something about HP printing..
[10:19] <Goop2> but I dont have a printer
[10:19] <ypsila> miyako: check the harwarelist
[10:19] <mutlu_inek> cox377: yes. then that is a gnome app. i have no idea. you might need to mount the remote filesystem first?
[10:19] <PauloChiva> exit
[10:20] <cox377> mutlu_inek: yeh maybe i do have to mount it
[10:20] <_Extasy_> I have been looking allover the place for a changelog in the dayly relases anyone knows where I can find one? and anyone who knows when edgy is going final?
[10:20] <khirr> guys
[10:20] <Goop2> miyako: not sure if they have one, but look into HP
[10:20] <khirr> one of u have installed Mercury?
[10:20] <intelikey> miyako most usb printers... you can google  linux printing      hp is pretty well supported  but i don't really like hp.
[10:20] <norov> is it kinda impossible to hack a linux client?
[10:20] <Goop2> oh.. I thought it was :P
[10:20] <norov> but its not?
[10:20] <khirr> ?
[10:20] <miyako> yeah, a bit of googling shows that Lexmark is not well supported, but HP and Epson are both well supported
[10:20] <Goop2> I mean printers
[10:20] <khirr> one of u have intalled mercury?
[10:21] <miyako> I just thought someone here might have a good personal recommendation
[10:21] <Tm_T> norov: It's far from impossible.
[10:21] <Goop2> Linux is harder to blackhat hack though I think
[10:21] <mutlu_inek> _Extasy_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[10:21] <mutlu_inek> _Extasy_: in about two weeks
[10:21] <intelikey> norov "kinda impossible to hack a linux client?"  nothing impossable.   but i believe you will find that most linux distros are by default somewhat safer than default M$
[10:21] <_Extasy_> mutlu_inek okej s there is a changelog there?
[10:21] <mutlu_inek> _Extasy_: beware, it might wreck your system
[10:22] <_Extasy_> mutlu_inek so it's that instable?
[10:22] <mutlu_inek> not that i know of
[10:22] <norov> okay
[10:22] <mutlu_inek> NO, it is NOT stabe
[10:22] <mikael_> i downloaded http://www.willwap.co.uk/Programs/vbrfix.php
[10:22] <intelikey> norov and linux can be tempered to extreem hardness.
[10:22] <mikael_> how can i compile this from source?
[10:22] <mikael_> i have already the build-essential package
[10:23] <_Extasy_> The world of linux is usually very good at making changelogs, but I cant find anything on ubuntu...
[10:23] <mikael_> any one a clue?
[10:23] <cox377> mutlu_inek: mounting the drive didnt work
[10:23] <intelikey> !source
[10:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:23] <intelikey> !building
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about building - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <ypsila> norov: it would be very helpful to me, if you could write a quite "normal" english, british or american
[10:24] <intelikey> !compiling
[10:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:24] <intelikey> there  ^
[10:24] <norov> ypsila: what?
[10:24] <mutlu_inek> cox377: what kind of drive?
[10:24] <ypsila> norov: you want to hack a system?
[10:24] <norov> the english im writing isnt normal? --.-
[10:24] <Goop2> norov: hes just being a jerk ;)
[10:24] <norov> nah
[10:25] <norov> i was just wondering
[10:25] <norov> first time using linux
[10:25] <ypsila> norov: not in my opinion, at least not conform to what you should have learnt at school
[10:25] <mikael_> sry guys but there is no configure
[10:25] <intelikey> mikael_ you get that link ?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[10:26] <norov> ypsila
[10:26] <cox377> mutlu_inek: it's a windows drive that i can access through konq but i'm trying to access a directory on that drive through a media player. the media player asks me for the directory of my music but when i click browse it only gives me the options for local drives etc tc
[10:26] <norov> d-.-b careface
[10:26] <mikael_> yeah, intelikey already read
[10:26] <mikael_> ./configure or something like that isn't available
[10:26] <mikael_> also make is not available
[10:26] <norov> i was just wondering since linux seems to be 100x safer compared to win
[10:26] <mikael_> not the command ;)
[10:26] <mikael_> make: no targets found
[10:26] <norov> password prompt on everything you do
[10:26] <ypsila> norov: it is, in fact
[10:26] <intelikey> "at least not conform to what"  and that is ? ypsila ???
[10:26] <norov> hi sherlock
[10:27] <mutlu_inek> cox377: what do you mean by windows drive?
[10:27] <norov> how are you today?
[10:27] <_Extasy_> I have been looking throu problebly every hw list for linux out there in search of a wireless networkcard for linux, The lists all state that the support is limmited to diffrent revisions of cards due to chipset. I have been e-mailing my local hw stores asking then for a card that is supported native in linux and no one so far has been able to help me, Does anyone know a card that I can buy that is "waterproof" and works well nati
[10:27] <ypsila> intelikey:  people should have been told at school :-D
[10:27] <norov> ypsila: use capital letters in the beginning of a sentence
[10:27] <intelikey> mikael_ if you install the build-essential then make is there
[10:27] <Goop2> told what?
[10:27] <norov> and finish them with a period
[10:27] <norov> EHHE
[10:28] <ypsila> norov: so I wonder, where you learnt your english
[10:28] <intelikey> ypsila just pointing out the pot calling the kettel mule
[10:28] <mikael_> intelikey: make is there
[10:28] <mikael_> but no target was found
[10:28] <mikael_> no control file
[10:28] <mikael_> make: *** Keine Targets angegeben und keine make-Steuerdatei gefunden.  Schluss.
[10:28] <mikael_> german :)
[10:28] <mikael_> no target adviced and no make controlfile found
[10:28] <cox377> it;s a drive that i have on an M$ computer, i've made it as a share that i can connect to from my kubuntu computers. this M$ drive holds some music that i would like under my libary of rythambox
[10:28] <intelikey> mikael_ look for the README.TXT or any other all caps file names in the source dir.
[10:29] <ypsila> intelikey: english is not my mother-tongue, does that help you
[10:29] <norov> ypsila: "so I wonder, where you learnt your english"
[10:29] <norov> incorrect
[10:29] <Goop2> ypsila: please use proper sentances having to do with the point of conversation
[10:29] <norov> "so I wonder, where you _have_ learnt your english"
[10:29] <ypsila> norov: I wonder too
[10:29] <Goop2> ypsila: have learnt?
[10:29] <intelikey> ypsila only if you are finished 'bashing' someone else's "english"   :)
[10:29] <ypsila> Goop2: please tell me more about the word sentance
[10:30] <ypsila> Goop2: lets go back to sentance
[10:30] <mutlu_inek> cox377: sorry, i don't know much about networkign with win except for the kde way. maybe try amarok? that should allow you to use all the kde access ease.
[10:30] <mikael_> intelikey: the readme is small and has no advice
[10:30] <Goop2> ypsila: atleast make sure people know what your talking about
[10:30] <ypsila> :-D
[10:30] <intelikey> mikael_ any all caps file names ?
[10:31] <mikael_> ?
[10:31] <ypsila> Goop2: it is not allowed to ask?
[10:31] <Goop2> ypsila: I thought I was suposed to be taught something about apple computers in school.. you just arent realy making sence
[10:31] <B-Minus_> anyone any experience with citrix in kubuntu ?
[10:31] <norov> well, time to sleep
[10:31] <mutlu_inek> ypsila: are you sure that the source is for linux?
[10:32] <norov> busy day tomorrow at school RTFM for kubuntu
[10:32] <intelikey> mikael_ like "INSTALL"    all caps.  all upper case.
[10:32] <norov> cya
[10:32] <Goop2> ttyl
[10:32] <zain> !beryl
[10:32] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:32] <zain> !xgl
[10:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:32] <intelikey> ypsila /ignore user
[10:32] <Goop2> ypsila: heres what you said..
[10:33] <mikael_> intelikey: http://phpfi.com/164041
[10:33] <Goop2> [16:25]  <ypsila> norov: you want to hack a system?  [16:26]  <ypsila> norov: not in my opinion, at least not conform to what you should have learnt at school
[10:34] <mikael_> intelikey:  maybe you can try this too?
[10:34] <yvonne> mutlu_inek: thanks 4 your help works great
[10:34] <mutlu_inek> yvonne: i am glad
[10:34] <mikael_> intelikey: it is this http://www.willwap.co.uk/Programs/vbrfix.php
[10:34] <mikael_> i svn't the files
[10:35] <wildchild> !pastebin
[10:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:35] <intelikey> mikael_ line 4 is turncated i only see upto "Don't"
[10:35] <intelikey> on the pastebin that is.
[10:36] <mikael_> oh
[10:37] <mikael_> intelikey: http://phpfi.com/164044
[10:37] <Liet> I have already reported the bug
[10:37] <Liet> bye
[10:39] <intelikey> mikael_ are you trying to rebuild some mp3's  with new vbrs ?
[10:39] <mikael_> no to repair
[10:40] <mikael_> checkmp3 brings en error whcich was found
[10:40] <mikael_> and i googled a long time for a fix mp3 programm
[10:40] <mikael_> this is the only one result
[10:40] <intelikey> ah k  and you dl'd which source archive ?
[10:40] <ypsila> intelikey:  not with my client, but thank you anyway
[10:41] <intelikey> ypsila what client ?
[10:41] <intelikey> ah ok
[10:41] <ypsila> intelikey: nothing you would like to know
[10:41] <intelikey> i'm not familear with opera  so i'll take your word for it.
[10:42] <ypsila> intelikey: :-)
[10:43] <intelikey> opera is one of those "pointy clicky thingies" isn't it ?      i don't do those pointy clicky thingies
[10:44] <zain> !beryl
[10:44] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:44] <B-Minus> does anyone know the default mirc font ??
[10:44] <Goop2> pointy clicky thingy?
[10:44] <fdoving> intelikey: opera is actually pretty good,good keyboard shortcuts too, really..
[10:44] <intelikey> mikael_ link that you dl'd ?
[10:45] <ypsila> intelikey: first of all opera is a browser, and as I'm not willing to upgrade to edgy before stable.............
[10:45] <intelikey> fdoving hmmm i may have to give a fair chance then.
[10:46] <ypsila> nor having any irc-client besides it ist my first choice, but only mine
[10:47] <Hawkwind> What we need is packages of swiftfox in Kubuntu.  Swiftfox is so much quicker than firefox
[10:47] <Hawkwind> Uses less memory, a lot fewer processes and is simply amazing
[10:48] <Goop2> hey! I like firefox >.>
[10:48] <khirr> one of u have installed mercury?
[10:48] <Hawkwind> Goop2: I've used firefox since it first came out.  I won't use it again
[10:48] <Goop2> wow..
[10:48] <Hawkwind> Goop2: http://getswiftfox.com and see for yourself
[10:49] <khirr> ?
[10:49] <Goop2> sounds pretty good
[10:49] <khirr> one of u have ussed mercury?
[10:49] <khirr> ;S
[10:49] <Hawkwind> Goop2: It uses all your firefox themes, extensions, bookmarks and everything.  You lose nothing.  It's just lightning quick compared to firefox
[10:49] <intelikey> dillo with ssl and java-script support       :)
[10:49] <Goop2> Hawkwind: is it as secure as firefox?
[10:49] <Hawkwind> I'm running it on 4 machines and they all make a difference
[10:50] <CVirus> !swiftfox
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <intelikey> dillo
[10:50] <ypsila> :-D
[10:50] <Hawkwind> Goop2: It's based on the same code, just optimized for each specific arch of PC
[10:50] <Goop2> oh
[10:50] <Hawkwind> Goop2: Read the page, it tells you all about it.  There are even deb packs for it :)
[10:51] <mutlu_inek> Hawkwind: swiftfox is non-free
[10:51] <neoncode> Is their a command I can run that will show if I'm useing the fglrx drivers or not?
[10:51] <Hawkwind> mutlu_inek: How so ?
[10:51] <_Extasy_> Has anyone heard if WPA support will be out of the box in next stable relase? More like suse?
[10:51] <Hawkwind> mutlu_inek: It uses the same code as firefox and has all the same licenses as firefox does
[10:52] <mutlu_inek> http://getswiftfox.com/source.htm
[10:52] <Hawkwind> Ahh, I hadn't seen that
[10:53] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: it hasn't broke yet lol...
[10:53] <mutlu_inek> http://getswiftfox.com/LICENSE
[10:53] <mutlu_inek> but the source is mpl licensed
[10:54] <khirr> guys, do u know one repository where i could download JRE?
[10:54] <Hawkwind> !jre
[10:54] <mutlu_inek> maybe try the fasterfox extension
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <Goop2> I cant wait till KDE4 comes out..
[10:54] <khirr> ;S
[10:55] <Hawkwind> mutlu_inek: I've used fasterfox for years, it still doesn't give the speed that swiftfox does
[10:55] <mutlu_inek> khirr: it is in universe afaik
[10:55] <khirr> ?
[10:55] <khirr> what is?
[10:55] <khirr> i noobie :D
[10:55] <mutlu_inek> khirr: apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[10:55] <mutlu_inek> khirr: then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:56] <atidem> hello
[10:56] <khirr> there is 2 opt
[10:56] <mutlu_inek> ?
[10:56] <khirr>  1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[10:56] <khirr> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[10:56] <khirr> which one?
[10:56] <mutlu_inek> you did not do the first command
[10:56] <khirr> ?
[10:57] <ypsila> pruhussst
[10:57] <mutlu_inek> apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[10:57] <khirr> u told me one command, i did that
[10:57] <khirr> ?
[10:57] <khirr> cant find the packegae sun-java-5-jre
[10:58] <khirr> cant found
[10:58] <khirr> ;S
[10:58] <mutlu_inek> start adept and add the repositories
[10:58] <khirr> what is the repository?
[10:59] <unix_infidel> a place where binaries are kept (.debs)
[10:59] <unix_infidel> conceptually similar to .exe
[10:59] <wildchild> after I added multiverse to my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26915/ I decided to install libxine-extracodecs via apt but there were errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26918/
[10:59] <Goop2> whats the konsole url command?
[11:00] <Goop2> go to url
[11:00] <khirr> brb
[11:00] <khirr> no
[11:00] <khirr> better wait
[11:00] <khirr> dont run
[11:00] <khirr> adept
[11:00] <mutlu_inek> khirr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:00] <khirr> ?
[11:00] <khirr> but, how can i know whar is java repository?
[11:00] <windshear> anyone has a floppy drive and is using kde 3.5.5 on edgy on a physical computer?
[11:00] <mutlu_inek> sorry that was for gnome
[11:01] <khirr> is for ubuntu ;S
[11:01] <mutlu_inek> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:02] <wildchild> does anyone know how to solve my prob
[11:03] <mutlu_inek> khirr: there http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper you find _anything_
[11:03] <timthelion> hey, what is the linux cli equivalent of the dialog in windows xp that shows all the computers and devices on the current network?
[11:03] <ypsila> wildchild: i do not have a solution, but I read about that problem twice today, what about a bug-report?
[11:04] <khirr> i did
[11:04] <khirr> waiting....
[11:04] <unix_infidel> timthelion: networks in linux are much more complex than simple CIFS.
[11:04] <unix_infidel> previously SMB
[11:04] <wildchild> ypsila bug report to who
[11:04] <ypsila> willnapier: wait a xsecong
[11:04] <timthelion> unix_infidel: can I still get a list of ip addresses?
[11:04] <timthelion> unix_infidel: on the network
[11:04] <ypsila> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs wildchild
[11:05] <Goop2> how do I go to the home folder using konsole?
[11:05] <wildchild> I just installed kubuntu and it allready has bug :S
[11:05] <Tm_T> Goop2: 'cd ~'
[11:05] <Goop2> Tm_T: ty
[11:06] <wildchild> ypsila I don't know what should be the name of this bug or problem..
[11:06] <ypsila> wildchild:  what exactly did you instalL)
[11:06] <mutlu_inek> khirr: did it work?
[11:06] <timthelion> how do I get a list of all the devices attached to my router?
[11:07] <khirr> i'm trying now
[11:07] <khirr> jrefrenty?
[11:07] <rahmetli> how to check if ip forwarding is on or off?
[11:07] <khirr> is it'
[11:07] <khirr> ?
[11:07] <wildchild> ypsila: libxine-extracodecs
[11:07] <mutlu_inek> what?
[11:07] <ypsila> wildchild: you installed or you tried to install?
[11:08] <wildchild> tryed :S
[11:08] <wildchild> also with libk3b2-mp3 package..
[11:08] <khirr> cant found the package
[11:08] <Goop2> hmm.. it seems konsole is already in the home folder by default.. thats helpful! :D
[11:08] <khirr> i done about apt
[11:08] <khirr> now?
[11:08] <khirr> what sholuld i do?
[11:09] <ypsila> wildchild:  any error message?
[11:09] <mutlu_inek> 1. set up repos; 2. update apt-get; 3. install the 2 packages given above; 4. set jre to sun-java5; 5. done
[11:09] <wildchild> ypsila: the same notice as with libxine-codecs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26918/
[11:10] <khirr> how update aptget?
[11:10] <khirr> i done about page
[11:10] <mutlu_inek> apt-get update OR use sdept
[11:10] <mutlu_inek> s->a
[11:10] <khirr> adp
[11:10] <khirr> i wanna put
[11:10] <khirr> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[11:10] <khirr> but, not run again
[11:10] <khirr> adept
[11:10] <ypsila> wildchild:  read what you pasted!
[11:11] <mutlu_inek> what? could you pleade express yourself clearly?
[11:12] <khirr> uhmm
[11:12] <Goop2> should kubuntu have slower internet than windowsxp on the same exact computer?
[11:12] <khirr> i'm not very good in enngslish :D
[11:12] <khirr> uhmm
[11:12] <wildchild> ypsila: ok, so I use beta version, but 2 days ago everything works fine, and today I've reinstalled kubuntu 6.10 ...
[11:12] <khirr> the program doesnt want to run
[11:12] <mutlu_inek> [17:10]  <khirr> but, not run again ; [17:10]  <khirr> adept ????
[11:12] <khirr> the progrman doesnt want to run
[11:12] <mutlu_inek> what is your native language?
[11:12] <rahmetli> how to check if ip forwarding is on or off? answer ; cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[11:13] <khirr> is spanish, but in that channel no one answer
[11:13] <Goop2> t3h wiz0rd
[11:13] <Goop2> thats awsome :D
[11:13] <mutlu_inek> adept does not run?
[11:13] <khirr> now, opened
[11:13] <khirr> finally
[11:14] <khirr> updating
[11:14] <khirr> done the update
[11:14] <khirr> now?
[11:14] <mikael_> how can i redirect the output of tar --help to kate or another gui ediotr?
[11:14] <mutlu_inek> install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[11:14] <Lam_> is there a way to get kubuntu/kde to show notes or something on start up?
[11:14] <Lam_> like a notes applet
[11:14] <mikael_> tar --help > kate doesn't work
[11:14] <rahmetli> why i cant "sudo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" ? it says Permission denied
[11:15] <khirr> mutlu_inek my problem is it
[11:15] <rahmetli> why i cant "sudo echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" ? it says Permission denied (sorry)
[11:15] <mutlu_inek> khirr: then in konsole type: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:15] <khirr> i wanna install mercury msn
[11:15] <khirr> but i need java
[11:15] <mutlu_inek> so?
[11:15] <mikael_> no one who works with pipes?
[11:16] <khirr> now?
[11:16] <mutlu_inek> khirr: install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[11:16] <mutlu_inek> khirr: then in konsole type: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:16] <neoj> mikael_: you put the output in a file called kate with that command, use | instead of >
[11:16] <mutlu_inek> khirr: done
[11:16] <mikael_> neoj: it opens an empty kate editor
[11:17] <rahmetli> why i cant "sudo echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" ? it says "Permission denied"
[11:17] <xst> I have a strange sound recording problem. When I speak into my microphone I can hear my voice loud and clear in the speakes. But for some reason I cannot *record* any sound from the microphone. What to do?
[11:17] <khirr> where install jav5?
[11:17] <mikael_> neoj: strange
[11:17] <neoj> mikael_: ok, it seems that you have to run kate -i to get kate to read from stdin
[11:17] <mikael_> ah
[11:17] <mikael_> thx
[11:17] <neoj> np
[11:17] <neoj> just reading the --help :)
[11:18] <mutlu_inek> khirr: either in the konsole type: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin OR in adept choose those packages and install them
[11:18] <khirr> cant found jre...
[11:19] <ypsila> :-D
[11:19] <mikael_> neoj: :)
[11:19] <khirr> mutluinek
[11:19] <mutlu_inek> who? where? PLEASE provide more information, i am fed up with this
[11:19] <mikael_> i can't extract a tar.gz file
[11:19] <khirr> i've installed mercury
[11:19] <khirr> www.mercury.to
[11:19] <mikael_> i could cry :(
[11:19] <khirr> but, i dunno, what i need to this run
[11:19] <mikael_> tar xvj filename.tar.gz doesn't work
[11:20] <khirr> understand me?
[11:20] <ypsila> ha so ein scheiss
[11:20] <ypsila> khirr: alt + f2 + name
[11:20] <neoj> mikael_: xvz , j is for bz2
[11:20] <khirr> no no, i need
[11:20] <khirr> one jave file
[11:20] <mikael_> oh
[11:20] <khirr> i dunno what
[11:20] <khirr> i read JRE
[11:21] <mutlu_inek> khirr: java -jar FILENAME
[11:21] <ypsila> khirr: then get it
[11:21] <mikael_> xvf :)
[11:21] <khirr> but, i dunno how install ir?
[11:21] <khirr> ?
[11:21] <mikael_> thx again neoj
[11:21] <khirr> :(
[11:21] <khirr> dont understand
[11:21] <ComingUndone83> Hey.. question y'all..
[11:21] <mutlu_inek> khirr: http://www.mercury.to/index.php?page=Wiki&wikipage=Linux_Setup
[11:22] <ComingUndone83> I'm having trouble getting the permission to get into hda1 without being root.
[11:22] <khirr> i'm cheking
[11:22] <khirr> i done
[11:22] <khirr> but the program doesnt run
[11:22] <khirr> need java enviroment
[11:22] <khirr> how can i do it?
[11:22] <Lam_> does kde have a notes applet for the panel?
[11:22] <mutlu_inek> khirr: WHY don't you do what i tell you?
[11:23] <khirr> i've dont
[11:23] <mutlu_inek> khirr: I am not going to help you any more
[11:23] <khirr> :S
[11:23] <khirr> i've done that
[11:23] <mutlu_inek> no
[11:23] <khirr> well anyway
[11:23] <khirr> thanks
[11:23] <mutlu_inek> you have not
[11:23] <freechelmi> Hi there
[11:23] <freechelmi> I 'm trying to install java
[11:23] <freechelmi> ok packages selected after having added multiverse
[11:23] <ComingUndone83> freechelmi: Run.. lol..
[11:23] <freechelmi> but the package wants the licence to be validated
[11:24] <freechelmi> so  adept is stuck
[11:24] <freechelmi> I can open the details , But can't confirm I accept the licence on debconf
[11:24] <freechelmi> shit :-)
[11:24] <rahmetli> freechelmi: use another then, you have lots of choice
[11:24] <ypsila> muaha
[11:24] <freechelmi> another java ?
[11:25] <freechelmi> the problem is more thath a questino is asked
[11:25] <mutlu_inek> freechelmi: run from command line
[11:25] <freechelmi> in adept in the details
[11:25] <freechelmi> but it cannot be answered
[11:25] <freechelmi> is it usual ?
[11:25] <ComingUndone83> Anyone know what to do with a drive that won't give you access unless you are root?
[11:26] <freechelmi> for the drive : as root you can tell that anybody can read and write
[11:26] <mutlu_inek> freechelmi: sudo apt-get check & sudo apt-get install <whatever_java>
[11:26] <mutlu_inek> freechelmi: i had that too, it is a adept-bug
[11:26] <mutlu_inek> use the cli
[11:26] <Lam_> found it. knotes. :)
[11:27] <ComingUndone83> free: It said it couldn't change permissions.
[11:27] <mutlu_inek> ComingUndone83: you can set that in /etc/fstab
[11:27] <ComingUndone83> How?
[11:27] <rahmetli> do i have to do anything (like rebooting) after turning ip_forwarding on?
[11:28] <mutlu_inek> ComingUndone83: under options for that drive you add user
[11:28] <ComingUndone83> Um.. where is all that? LOL
[11:29] <ComingUndone83> I'm about retarded today for some reason.
[11:29] <mutlu_inek> ComingUndone83: what kind of drive by the way?
[11:29] <ComingUndone83> NTFS .. My other HD with Win XP Pro on it.
[11:29] <mutlu_inek> go to console and type less /etc/fstab
[11:29] <mutlu_inek> is the drive in there?
[11:30] <ComingUndone83> yup..
[11:30] <ComingUndone83> "/dev/hda1 /media/windowsC auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0"
[11:33] <ComingUndone83> What now?
[11:41] <mutlu_inek> ComingUndone83: sorry
[11:41] <ComingUndone83> It's all good.
[11:42] <zorglu_> ok my task of tonite, how to extract a iso from a .bin :)
[11:42] <mutlu_inek> ComingUndone83: replace users,nosuid,nodev with owner
[11:43] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody uses Kubuntu + XGL here?
[11:43] <mutlu_inek> "/dev/hda1 /media/windowsC auto owner,atime,noauto,rw,noexec 0 0"
[11:43] <rysiek|pl> Kubuntu Dapper, might I add
[11:43] <ComingUndone83> one sec.
[11:43] <zorglu_> rysiek|pl: try on #ubuntu_xgl
[11:43] <zorglu_> !xgl
[11:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:43] <zorglu_> nope it was a _ :)
[11:43] <ComingUndone83> I don't know how to edit that..
[11:44] <elias_> what is the best (least amount of user interaction) method to be able to boot into one dapper and one edgy installation on one disk? (seperate/shared boot part, ...)
[11:44] <rysiek|pl> zorglu_: m'kay, thanks
[11:44] <zorglu_> elias_: install them both and config the grub...
[11:44] <mutlu_inek> ComingUndone83: enter konsole: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[11:45] <ComingUndone83> I got it through kate.
[11:45] <mutlu_inek> ComingUndone83: back the file up first! if you make a mistake the computer will not boot!
[11:45] <ComingUndone83> I got that already. :-)
[11:45] <zorglu_> elias_: they wont interact together, their only common part is the grub part
[11:45] <elias_> zorglu_: Is there a way to prevent me from having to edit the entries for at least on OS by hand?
[11:46] <ComingUndone83> brb.. I think I may have it.
[11:46] <ComingUndone83> Gotta reboot.
[11:46] <zorglu_> elias_: i cant parse the end of your sentence
[11:47] <khirr> guys, how can i create one folder since konsole?
[11:47] <zorglu_> hmm uneasy this bin/iso stuff :)
[11:47] <elias_> I want to know how to setup grub, so I don't have to edit the entries for one of these OSes by hand. Since usually update-grub does the work for me.
[11:47] <elias_> But this will only work for one OS!
[11:47] <khirr> ?
[11:47] <rahmetli> khirr: since konsole?
[11:47] <khirr> yes
[11:47] <khirr> what's the command?
[11:48] <rahmetli> khirr: you mean?
[11:48] <khirr> i wanna create one folder
[11:48] <khirr> since onsole
[11:48] <mutlu_inek> koptum
[11:48] <rahmetli> bende
[11:48] <khirr> kotum?
[11:48] <zorglu_> elias_: oh i see. you may try to have a common boot partition. but i find it very complex and dangerous
[11:48] <rahmetli> khirr: you mean using the console?
[11:48] <khirr> yes
[11:48] <mutlu_inek> khirr: mkdir <name>
[11:48] <rahmetli> mutlu_inek: ;)
[11:49] <elias_> zorglu_: does not really work as expected since update-grub does not know about my other root partition
[11:49] <zorglu_> elias_: but it is only my own preference. i prefere to have the system running independantly :) i dont update the kernel that often :)
[11:49] <rahmetli> khirr:  ok?
[11:49] <khirr> ty+
[11:49] <khirr> thanjs
[11:49] <zorglu_> elias_: well i have 3 linux like that on my own box... so it works somehow :)
[11:49] <bojan> hello, i just dist-upgraded my dapper from kde 3.5.3 to 3.5.5, and my application fonts are different, and whenever i try to go into Appearance section of systemsettings, it crashes
[11:49] <elias_> is there a way to make grub in MBR start another grub instance which I wrote into a partition?
[11:50] <bojan> anyone know anything about this
[11:50] <bojan> ?
[11:51] <snook353> cpk2, i think my screen issue was the openoffice quickstarter applet.  i clean installed kubuntu, and i put the ooorg applet in, and it started acting funny
[11:51] <snook353> cpk2 : (so i took the applet off)
[11:51] <snook353> that's as far as i got , cpk2.
[11:52] <bojan> or my in-application fonts arent being AA'ed or something
[11:52] <mutlu_inek> ComingUndone83: did it work?
[11:52] <ComingUndone83> Yeah..
[11:52] <ComingUndone83> I used an NTFS-fuse option.
[11:52] <Brydenn33> hey
[11:53] <Brydenn33> are we talking about ntfs read/write support
[11:53] <Brydenn33> i just did it
[11:53] <Brydenn33> a few seconds ago :)
[11:53] <Brydenn33> ntfs-3g owns hehe
[11:53] <ComingUndone83> It's still not showing up in the Media folder.. but I got it via /media/windows
[11:53] <ComingUndone83> which is sufficient, I guess.
[11:54] <ComingUndone83> Music's playing.. I'm good. :-)
[11:55] <Brydenn33> ComingUndone83: were you trying to write/delete etc to an NTFS partition?
[11:55] <ComingUndone83> I was just trying to access it without root.
[11:56] <ComingUndone83> Permissions were fried out, methinks.
[11:56] <Brydenn33> oh
[11:56] <ComingUndone83> I have gigs worth of mp3s on my windows drive and I wanted to listen to them.
[11:56] <Brydenn33> well i just figured out how to read/write/edit files on an NTFS partition
[11:56] <Brydenn33> it's cake man
[11:56] <ComingUndone83> I still can't get the NTFS drive to show up in the storage media list..
[11:56] <Brydenn33> all i had to do was install 3 files and edit fstab
[11:56] <Brydenn33> heh
[11:56] <ComingUndone83> Brydenn: Was that the NTFS-fuse thing? LOL
[11:56] <Brydenn33> well
[11:57] <ComingUndone83> I just installed a bunch of NTFS drivers..
[11:57] <Brydenn33> the thing ya wanna download is ntfs-3g
[11:58] <Brydenn33> thats the thing that'll let ya delete stuff on your windows partition and add stuff to it
[11:58] <Brydenn33> but you also have to edit fstab too
[11:58] <Brydenn33> but that's the easy part
[11:58] <ComingUndone83> Yeah..
[11:58] <ComingUndone83> I edited fstab..
[11:58] <Brydenn33> ya
[11:59] <Brydenn33> i cant wait till that becomes part of the linux kernel source
[11:59] <Brydenn33> windows isnt dying anytime soon heh
[11:59] <Ashex> so, I used to have 2 NIC cards in my computer, and i configured edgy to use the external instead of the internal (renamed secondary one to eth0).
[11:59] <Brydenn33> and it would be very user friendly to have something already in there that works so seemlessly
[11:59] <Ashex> well, i pulled out the extra one, and now i have to run dhclient manually
[12:00] <Ashex> it's kinda annoying, and i was wondering if anyone knew how to reset it
[12:04] <ComingUndone83> woot! Streaming trance..
[12:06] <bojan> anyone upgrade to kde 3.5.5?
[12:10] <logankoester> Are packages listed as "recommended packages" by apt-get install going to be installed if I hit y to continue?
[12:11] <Manyfold> which .deb provides me with kde headers?
[12:11] <mutlu_inek> bojan: yes, many had problems
[12:11] <age1172> hi
[12:12] <age1172> i have a quetion about xgl?
[12:12] <mutlu_inek> age1172: go to #ubuntu-xgl
[12:12] <age1172> * i have a question about xgl
[12:12] <age1172> thanks
[12:13] <theurs> how to upgrade 6.06->6.10
[12:13] <bojan> oho
[12:13] <bojan> i jsut dist-upgraded
[12:13] <zorglu_> !edgy
[12:13] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:13] <bojan> and it doesnt seem too bad
[12:13] <neoj> !schedule
[12:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:13] <zorglu_> theurs: just replace all 'dapper' in sources.list by edgy, and do apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:14] <zorglu_> i think :)
[12:14] <bojan> expect my in-app fonts seem a little messed up, like they aren't AA'ed or like they are different font, and the appearance section of Systemsettings crashes when I try to enter it
[12:14] <bojan> those sseem to be the only problems