[12:01] <ladydoor> it talked about what to do if there i had that...
[12:01] <XiXaQ> sureshot, google for Bash Manual Documentation Howto Commands
[12:01] <sureshot> thank XiXaQ that is a hard name to type LOL
[12:02] <stefg> ladydoor: might be a warning message if mdadm is reinstalled... but i don't think a dist-upgrade will break your raid arrays
[12:02] <Crippy-Boy> sureshot, Use tab completion, Most clients support it, Just type the first part of the name and press tab
[12:02] <anon32> if I build a new version of firefox from source, do I have to deinstall the included one?
[12:02] <Tamed_G> anyone know how to play files from mounted volumes?
[12:02] <ladydoor> well...nevermind. it looks like i need to do a fresh install anyway, as there's a ton of stuff that won't install even with apt-get -f install (as suggested on the Community Doc pages)
[12:03] <Alakazamz0r> ladydoor,
[12:03] <sureshot> ok Crippy-boy i will work on that in just a little while that will also help me not mispell so much heheheheheheheh
[12:03] <Alakazamz0r> have you tried using the build-dep option
[12:03] <XiXaQ> sureshot, You should include Linux also. Most distros use the same shell. In this case, bash
[12:03] <ladydoor> Alakazamz0r: i'll try it
[12:03] <Alakazamz0r> apt-get build-dep whateveryouretryingtoinstall
[12:03] <sureshot> XiXaQ is that the default in unbuntu
[12:03] <ladydoor> Alakazamz0r: i'm not trying to install anything. i'm trying to dist-upgrade.
[12:04] <Alakazamz0r> to edgy?
[12:04] <ladydoor> Alakazamz0r: yup
[12:04] <FifaFrazer> What is the default superuser password for Ubuntu live cd ?
[12:04] <Xenguy> sureshot: bash is the default linux shell
[12:04] <Alakazamz0r> i just did that... i had a lot of dependency problems.
[12:04] <Alakazamz0r> paste the outpoot into a paste bin for me.
[12:04] <sureshot> thanks FifaFrazer thanks very much
[12:04] <Assid> heya
[12:05] <stefg> FifaFrazer: just 'sudo' or 'su', no passwd
[12:05] <bur[n] er> FifaFrazer: there isn't one... sudo
[12:05] <zorba64> FifaFrazer, type su -s into terminal
[12:05] <Assid> i just installed ubuntu for the first time..
[12:05] <wastrel> Xenguy:  no password iirc
[12:05] <Assid> whats the default route password?
[12:05] <rvalles> # sensors-detect
[12:05] <rvalles> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[12:05] <bur[n] er> route password?  or root?
[12:05] <Xenguy> wastrel: wrong person?
[12:05] <Assid> hrmm.. no password doesnt seem to work for me
[12:05] <wastrel> er, FifaFrazer no password iirc
[12:05] <bur[n] er> !sudo
[12:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:05] <Assid> err.. root
[12:05] <wastrel> Xenguy:  yeah :] 
[12:05] <rvalles> where does ubuntu hide this mkdev.sh?
[12:05] <Alakazamz0r> ladydoor, have you tried "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:06] <bur[n] er> there isn't a password is correct... it's not "blank" it just doesn't exist... you use sudo
[12:06] <wastrel> Assid:  use sudo
[12:06] <atlef> Assid : use your user password
[12:06] <wastrel> FifaFrazer:  use sudo
[12:06] <bur[n] er> if you want a root passwd, you can make one via sudo ;)
[12:06] <Seeking1> whats the latest offical version of root kit hunter?  one 1 webpage it says 1.2.8 and another 1.2.9. Any ideas?
[12:06] <stefg> rvalles: in udev :O
[12:06] <FifaFrazer> When i use sudo it asks for a password?
[12:06] <ompaul> zorba64, it is disabled
[12:06] <ompaul> !sudo
[12:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:06] <wastrel> FifaFrazer: what's asking for the password?
[12:07] <FifaFrazer> When i type sudo
[12:07] <ompaul> the sudo password is the users own password
[12:07] <FifaFrazer> it asks for a password
[12:07] <wastrel> just leave it blank.
[12:07] <ladydoor> Alakazamz0r: yes. i'm currently on the apt-get -f install and then sudo dpkg --configure -a to make sure everything's alright step.
[12:07] <FifaFrazer> in the terminal
[12:07] <wastrel> ompaul:  this is on the install cd
[12:07] <ompaul> ahh
[12:07] <Alakazamz0r> ladydoor, yes... thats a step in the right direction.
[12:07] <Assid> passwd: You may not view or modify password information for root.
[12:07] <ladydoor> Alakazamz0r: as laid out here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[12:07] <Alakazamz0r> i had to dance between both those commands to get it to upgrade
[12:07] <ladydoor> Alakazamz0r: i've never had a successful dist-upgrade yet
[12:07] <ladydoor> haha
[12:08] <Alakazamz0r> hehe
[12:08] <Alakazamz0r> i have...
[12:08] <Alakazamz0r> it works... you just have to do some finagling.
[12:08] <ok> does anybody know an html php editor like macromedia dreamweaver on linux?
[12:08] <ompaul> ladydoor, a base install gets a dist-upgrade - when you put in all sorts of stuff - it can bring on "unusal behaviour"
[12:08] <ladydoor> yeah...so go back and forth between install -f and dist-upgrade?
[12:08] <johnny__> if someone got a minute can they help me for a sec when get a chance
[12:08] <Assid> salrite i got it :D
[12:08] <atlef> Assid when you installed ubuntu you set a password, this is the password
[12:08] <FifaFrazer> ok, quanta+
[12:09] <rvalles> stefg: yup, there's gonna be a way to run sensors-detect!
[12:09] <ok> thanks FifaFrazer
[12:09] <ompaul> ok, I don't know macromedia anything but I know bluefish and a few other tools
[12:09] <ladydoor> ach...well, thanks for the help, everybody. i've got to go for the moment
[12:09] <kitche> macromedia doesn't exist anymore
[12:09] <ladydoor> real life calls
[12:09] <Alakazamz0r> no
[12:09] <Alakazamz0r> ladydoor...
[12:09] <ok> ompaul what are the few other tools?
[12:09] <Alakazamz0r> apt-get -f install and then sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:09] <Crippy-Boy> They were bought out by adobe, but dreamweaver and flash still uses the macromedia name
[12:10] <Alakazamz0r> but okay... it DOES work.
[12:10] <johnny__> what would be the start up cmd for firestarter... to have it start up when ubuntu starts up?
[12:10] <peter77> Hi, I'm running ubuntu edgy and I have power saving enabled, when I run my laptop off the battery though it doesn't dim the display
[12:10] <ompaul> ok, emacs, for one, and a few other editors, but if you want a gui I suggest bluefish
[12:10] <Alakazamz0r> why does everyone want Edgy.
[12:10] <kitche> johnny__: you don't need firestarter to start it's just a frontend to iptables
[12:10] <ompaul> !edgy
[12:10] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:11] <Assid> hrmm, should i dump the cdrom to the hard drive.. so i can mount and use it whenever i need, i gotta get rid of the rom from here
[12:11] <ok> ok thanks I've already tried bluefish but thanks in all cases ompaul
[12:11] <jokoon> Hello (HAHA ME AGAIN !)
[12:11] <peter77> drake didn't show battery level at all
[12:11] <peter77> edgy does
[12:11] <johnny__> kitche well when i log in ubuntu i have to manullay run firestarter
[12:11] <freakabcd> err.. i'm too sleepy. someone tell me which file is dmesg showing?
[12:11] <freakabcd> its certainly not /var/log/messages
[12:11] <johnny__> i cannot add it to startup programs under sessions
[12:11] <freakabcd> cos the content is different
[12:12] <kitche> johnny_: yes but the firewall still runs since the firewall is not firestarter
[12:12] <ok> FifaFrazer, I found quanta no quanta+
[12:12] <jokoon> How install last drivers for my graphic card ? desktop interface seems not that smooth and refresh rate is still at 60Hz ?
[12:12] <jokoon> -?
[12:12] <johnny__> kitche that is the firewall i am running is firestarter
[12:13] <jokoon> sudo apt-get [insert something here] 
[12:13] <ompaul> jokoon, maybe you could tell the nice people what video card you have
[12:13] <wastrel> freakabcd:  man dmesg.    seems to be /var/log/kern.log
[12:13] <jokoon> Nvidia
[12:13] <wastrel> :] 
[12:13] <ompaul> !nvidia > jokoon
[12:13] <kitche> johnny_-: it's not a firewall firestarter is just a frontend to iptables
[12:13] <leakd>  n8
[12:13] <jokoon> thanks
[12:13] <ompaul> jokoon, read the message from the bot and follow those instructions, ready them in full first - just in case of any gotchas
[12:14] <jokoon> I thought it was more simple this time :-(
[12:14] <johnny__> kitche the icon on my task bar on top when i hover mouse over it, it says firewall running
[12:14] <jokoon> does not nvidia release linux driver ?
[12:15] <ompaul> jokoon, if there is a Ubuntu method perhaps it would be better to go with it?
[12:15] <jokoon> ok thanks a laaaat :)
[12:15] <kitche> johnny_: yes firestarter will tell you when iptables is running since iptables part of the kernel is the firewall
[12:15] <Alakazamz0r> use ipkungfu
[12:15] <Alakazamz0r> i like it better
[12:16] <johnny__> kitche so what is the point of firestarter?
[12:16] <Alakazamz0r> configuration
[12:16] <kitche> johnyy_: it makes it easier to setup iptables
[12:16] <Alakazamz0r> Johan666,
[12:16] <johnny__> ic
[12:16] <johnny__> kitch so even if i do not run firestarter i am still firewalled?
[12:16] <johnny__> kitche*
[12:17] <ompaul> johnny__, to give a simple config to iptables - point and click and guess what - most of use don't use firewalls cos our o/s is not like some others - it is not open from the off
[12:17] <kitche> johnny_: yes you are still firewalled
[12:17] <johnny__> kk
[12:17] <ompaul> johnny__,  we don't have to install one cos we don't have open front doors all over the place
[12:17] <johnny__> interesting
[12:18] <johnny__> ubuntu rules
[12:18] <ompaul> johnny__, no, it rocks :)
[12:18] <BiSk-8> hello, can any1 help me work vmware? i have no clue how to work it
[12:18] <johnny__> :)
[12:18] <docko> hid3, how can i search in installed packages in terminal?
[12:19] <Seeking1> ompaul: whats the latest offical version of root kit hunter?  one 1 webpage it says 1.2.8 and another 1.2.9. Any ideas?
[12:19] <Brydenn33> does anyone know how to fix an application/octet-stream error?
[12:19] <Brydenn33> i keep getting a box comming up that says that
[12:19] <ompaul> Seeking1, you really want false positives that much?
[12:19] <Fibbs> I want to install the complete sources of the actual ubuntu kernel with all patches included, which package do i have to install?
[12:19] <am4nda> can anyone tell me how to get symbol font to work in firefox?
[12:19] <ompaul> Seeking1, which one are you referring to?
[12:19] <kitche> Brydenn33: what program are you trying to use
[12:20] <stefg> !info linu-source
[12:20] <Brydenn33> kitche, it first started when i tried to uninstall GtkDC
[12:20] <ubotu> Package linu-source does not exist in any distro I know
[12:20] <stefg> !info linux-source
[12:20] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:20] <Brydenn33> and now the box comes up everytime i try to search for a file or folder
[12:21] <ompaul> Seeking1, ?
[12:21] <Seeking1> ompaul: false positives?
[12:21] <Seeking1> ompaul:  what do you use then to check your system?
[12:22] <johnny__> ok one other thing if i can get a hand is that i installed a nvidia driver from the terminal how the ubuntu guide says.. how could i configure the nvidia settings or not?
[12:22] <acke__> hey i have a deb file. how do i install. when i do apt-get install pathtofile. i get package not found
[12:22] <Seeking1> ompaul: how can I check my system to make sure it contains nothing nasty?
[12:22] <ompaul> Seeking1, I don't bother
[12:22] <Seeking1> ompaul: why not?
[12:22] <jrib> ubotu: tell acke__ about deb
[12:22] <stefg> Seeking1: brain, fingers, knowledge and a dosis of anti-paranoia :-)
[12:22] <Seeking1> ompaul: do virus and root kit hunters exist in Linux? of so, how can you not want to check?
[12:22] <Xenguy> Seeking1: rkhunter is one check for rootkits
[12:23] <acke__> jrib, thanks but it says dependency is nto satisfiable. libc6 but i have that alrady
[12:23] <ompaul> Seeking1, a virus ..... ehh no we don't have those -- root kits only happen if you allow untrusted software to run
[12:23] <Xenguy> Seeking1: also 'chkrootkit'
[12:23] <Centaur5> I just did a fresh install of Dapper on an Averatec laptop and it hangs on Saving VESA state when trying to boot. What would cause that?
[12:23] <rvalles> # sensors-detect -> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them. -> where is that?
[12:23] <cschneid> woo, got dual monitors going, now have 2x19inch LCDs :)
[12:24] <ompaul> info chkrootkit
[12:24] <ompaul> !info chkrootkit
[12:24] <ubotu> chkrootkit: Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.46a-2 (dapper), package size 241 kB, installed size 688 kB
[12:24] <ompaul> Seeking1, it is known for false positives
[12:24] <Fibbs> stefg: this is a few k of size package....
[12:24] <ompaul> Seeking1, we are not running the software that you have to reinstall every couple of weeks in a commerical environment
[12:24] <Xenguy> Seeking1: you can run both of those daily using a cronjob
[12:24] <THX-1138_> cschneid: Congrats! me too. - nice isn't it. (watching a mvie ith my wife now. 2001 a space odysesy)
[12:25] <Fibbs> stefg: the actual version i have is 2.6.15.27, the linux-source packet is 2.6.15.25
[12:25] <Hostile> Im trying to add a printer using the cups web interface, and its asking me the username and password...I tried it with both my username and pass and root and the rootpass...it doesn't work
[12:25] <Xenguy> ompaul: the false positives are quite easy to detect and ignore
[12:25] <THX-1138_> cschneid: hat is the magic incantation to enable passing an app from one monitor to the other one?
[12:26] <johnny__> hostil using a network printer?
[12:26] <stefg> Fibbs: complaints go to the kernel-maintainers, if they did not manage to update the repo in time...
[12:26] <ompaul> Xenguy, and so is that software - if you are new it is the least of your worries - and you will not see it so easy better to learn how to deal with the O/S
[12:26] <freebse> Hostile: should not happen unless you use a printer via lan, maybe winDOS network
[12:26] <johnny__> i just installed a network printer not even 45 minutes ago
[12:26] <Xenguy> ompaul: I disagree - learning to secure your box is useful information for everyone
[12:26] <Fibbs> stefg: ok thanks
[12:26] <Hostile> johnny__, yeah its network
[12:27] <Hostile> freebse, Im trying to add a samba printer
[12:27] <Assid> hey does the synaptic package manager take care of the updates as well ?
[12:27] <johnny__> hostil is the printer server running through another pc or a printer server?
[12:27] <johnny__> hostile*
[12:27] <Hostile> johnny__, its running through my linux server
[12:27] <am4nda>  Does anyone know how to get symbol fonts to work in firefox? ive tried searching the web and none of the fixes there worked. ive got Standard Symbols L installed
[12:27] <Seeking1> ompaul: rkhunter has never given me even a found report of anything
[12:27] <ompaul> Xenguy, the default Ubuntu install is a useful starting point. How often do you see "groups of linux boxes" as zombie bot nets?  (if you want to continue this we go to -offotpic)
[12:28] <freebse> Hostile: then you need an account for the windows share
[12:28] <johnny__> hostile maybe try using your linux server password
[12:28] <cschneid> THX-1138, I did it via twin view, as far as X is concerned, I have a single, very wide monitor, since the nvidia driver fakes that, so nothing fancy for switching back and forth, just drag
[12:28] <freebse> Hostile: on the computer you are trying to add the printer from
[12:28] <Hostile> freebse, I have an account for the windows share
[12:28] <HexDump> hi all
[12:28] <Xenguy> ompaul: I don't think it is useful to continue really - someone asked for recommendations of a rootkit tool, and I responded.  That's pretty much end of story :-)
[12:29] <THX-1138_> cschneid: "xinerama" is on?
[12:29] <freebse> Hostile: then it should work with this, ok no sollution, but this is the only thing I can say
[12:29] <cschneid> THX-1138, no
[12:29] <willys_fueguino> Alakazamz0r: Is that the problem?? that I dont have any drivers??
[12:29] <Alakazamz0r> misconfiguration
[12:29] <Alakazamz0r> or no drivers.
[12:30] <Hostile> I could try adding it over ipp instead of smb, what would the ipp URL  be? ipp://ip.of.my.server/whathere?
[12:30] <Alakazamz0r> im about to check.
[12:30] <THX-1138_> cschneid: Interesting i entered a different incantation and have a cursor ith 2 screen priviledges - but no apps
[12:31] <madprex> hi everybody
[12:31] <HexDump> lo madprex
[12:31] <johnny__> whatthere=printername maybe
[12:31] <Assid> hey does snaptic package manager update old packages too ?
[12:31] <HexDump> if I need to have a path set everytime I boot up, what file should I edit?
[12:31] <Alakazamz0r> Assid, no.. it removes them.
[12:31] <Alakazamz0r> HexDump, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274101&highlight=set+path
[12:32] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: : thanks a lot mate
[12:32] <Alakazamz0r> you need to edit .bash_profile
[12:32] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[12:32] <THX-1138_> cschneid: last pestering question - (you believe that right?) - One display per adapter or one adapter and two displays?
[12:32] <Alakazamz0r> no problem HexDump
[12:32] <joeblow> where are the very latedt source for ubnutu  archives
[12:32] <madprex> ineed help to setup my new ubuntu machine! (p.s.) im new of ubuntu
[12:33] <johnny__> hostile try the option called (LPD)
[12:33] <madprex> someone knows hot build blender in 64 bit mode?
[12:33] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: there are a lot of files for configuration, it is a little mess for newbies.
[12:33] <ompaul> madprex, can you be more precise about what do you want to do?
[12:33] <joeblow> i'm trying to get wm9 codecs
[12:33] <CharonX> Does anyone know how I can get the lirc_atiusb modules loaded in ubuntu ?
[12:33] <joeblow> and body know how to
[12:33] <cschneid> THX-1138, one video card, 2 heads on the card, one is VGA, other is DVI
[12:34] <ompaul> !w32codecs > joeblow
[12:34] <madprex> i've found a prebild pakage bu iit is very slow
[12:34] <eztk> how do I get everyone full permissions to the DVD drive? vmware cant see the drive
[12:34] <FifaFrazer> I've mounted an ntfs partition in ubuntu live cd, but when I access it, it gives the following error: The folder contents could not be displayed - You do not have the permission necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda5"   ... What is wrong??
[12:34] <Alakazamz0r> HexDump, "nano ~/.bash_profile"
[12:34] <madprex> id' like to build it by myself but i dont know how
[12:34] <THX-1138_> cschneid: sounds great :)    (two adapters two displays) i need to enable xinerama then. mystery solved
[12:35] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: hehe, I just did that, I only wanted to exprress my frustation :).
[12:35] <Hitch> FifaFrazer, u should be root to access ntfs
[12:35] <Alakazamz0r> oh lol... hehe yeah
[12:35] <ompaul> !compile > madprex
[12:35] <ompaul> madprex, read the info the bot ubotu sent to you in a message
[12:36] <eztk> ok ill mount the iso file directly in vmware then!
[12:36] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: by the way, how the hell do you get the "tilde" in console, old alt-192 does not work for me
[12:36] <am4nda>  Does anyone know how to get symbol fonts to work in firefox? ive tried searching the web and none of the fixes there worked. ive got Standard Symbols L installed
[12:36] <eztk> permissions for cd drives seem to be causing problems in ubuntu
[12:36] <eztk> regularly
[12:36] <Alakazamz0r> shift+`
[12:36] <Alakazamz0r> ~
[12:37] <ompaul> eztk, I have four boxes here with cds/dvds and they don't seem to have problems
[12:37] <FifaFrazer> thank you Hitch
[12:37] <Seeker1> ompaul:  gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/lisa/.gnupg/gpg.conf'!  How can I fix this?
[12:37] <Alakazamz0r> HexDump, when was the last time you were on a Unix based box?
[12:37] <Alakazamz0r> hehe
[12:37] <eztk> ompaul: brw-rw-rw- 1 root mr-admin 22, 0 2006-10-14 20:35 hdc
[12:37] <Seeker1> ompaul: any ideas my dear friend? :)
[12:37] <Hitch> u helped me for the quanta+ FifaFrazer :-P
[12:37] <eztk> ompaul: i've never had these problems before either
[12:38] <eztk> ompaul: can't even boot the vista cd within vmware
[12:38] <eztk> never mind
[12:38] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: I can tell you I was using Mosaic, so, like 8-10 years ago :D.
[12:39] <Seeker1> eztk: ok we wont mind
[12:39] <Alakazamz0r> lol HexDump yeah, i'd say that was a minute... do you like what you see w/Ubuntu?
[12:39] <eztk> seeker1: lol
[12:39] <eztk> seeker1: ill try and download another .iso.. a different version maybe
[12:39] <Seeker1> eztk: ;)
[12:39] <eztk> seeker1: just find it bizarre I cant boot this iso
[12:39] <Seeker1> maybe
[12:39] <Seeker1> yeah
[12:40] <Tampler> Which option i have to use to show widget where to save the files?
[12:40] <ompaul> eztk, the device /dev/hdc is usually a sym link to /media/cdrom0 and that hsould be owned by root
[12:40] <Seeker1> thats what you get for using warez
[12:40] <Seeker1> eztk: you thief :P
[12:40] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: yes, it is nice, I just installed vmware+winxp, to let me use my best win program, guitar pro :D
[12:40] <eztk> seeker1: its not warez
[12:40] <Seeker1> if u say so :)
[12:40] <eztk> seeker1: the iso was downloaded from the m$ site, vmware server is free - got the key off vmware - seriously
[12:40] <ompaul> Seeker1, how did you manage to install it gpg that is - cos ehh I have not seen that error
[12:40] <th_> stefg, hey ;)
[12:40] <eztk> seeker1: you can download the beta versions of vista from m$
[12:40] <th_> thanks for the help earlier
[12:41] <Alakazamz0r> cool HexDump
[12:41] <th_> now i just wish Ubuntu supported nvraid ;)
[12:41] <Seeker1> ompaul: i installed it through sudo apt-get
[12:41] <Seeker1> ompaul: anything to be concerned about?
[12:41] <Seeker1> eztk: ah ok
[12:41] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: : the only thing I don like is seeing how kde is eating all my mem :(, gnome isn my better, perhaps I should move to xfe
[12:42] <eztk> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-10-14 20:35 dvd -> hdc
[12:42] <Alakazamz0r> HexDump, thats normal on a linux system... its probably caching it.
[12:42] <th_> I know in Gentoo it is possible to boot with "dodmraid" or somethin, and it will detect Nvraid disks, is something similar possible with ubuntu?
[12:42] <eztk> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-10-14 20:35 dvdrw -> hdc
[12:42] <thelsdj> whats the command to reconfigure X?
[12:42] <am4nda>  Does anyone know how to get symbol fonts to work in firefox? ive tried searching the web and none of the fixes there worked. ive got Standard Symbols L installed
[12:42] <ompaul> Seeker1, do an ls -al on that file it should be -rw----------
[12:42] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: I have seen xfe eating around 200MB not 500 like kde/gnome
[12:42] <eztk> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-10-14 20:35 cdrom -> hdc
[12:42] <eztk> hmm
[12:42] <Alakazamz0r> oh yeah, it'll eat it up.
[12:42] <ompaul> eztk, that is correct
[12:43] <Alakazamz0r> HexDump, what else are you using the memory on now though... may as well let it eat it.
[12:43] <stefg> unused RAM is good for nothing, except being used as cache or buffers... until some app comes along asking for mem
[12:43] <eztk> ompaul: thanks
[12:43] <ompaul> eztk, and have a look at /media/cdrom0
[12:43] <Seeker1> ompaul: let me check
[12:44] <eztk> ompaul: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-09-10 15:41 cdrom0
[12:44] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: just for psp development
[12:44] <th_> stefg, try a system with 0 cache and buffers and you will no longer say that it "is good for nothing except" ... ;)
[12:44] <Seeker1> ompaul: -rw-------  1 lisa lisa 8084 2006-07-27 13:49 gpg.conf
[12:44] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: I mean, a little ide
[12:44] <Seeker1> ompaul: it loooks ok?
[12:44] <ompaul> Seeker1, it does
[12:44] <Seeker1> ompaul: so rkithunter reports a false warning?
[12:45] <jelly> Hi, can ubuntu be debootstraped?
[12:45] <Seeker1> jelly: hehe
[12:45] <ompaul> Seeker1, so what did I say about false reports
[12:45] <Alakazamz0r> yeah HexDump you're a PSP developer?
[12:45] <Seeker1> ompaul: yeah :)
[12:45] <Seeker1> ompaul: but its the only report I have
[12:45] <lupine_85> jelly: yep
[12:45] <lupine_85> that's how the installer works
[12:45] <lupine_85> (well, partly)
[12:45] <th_> ;)
[12:46] <lupine_85> if you bootstrap it, then install ubuntu-desktop, and do grub, you "might" have a semi-working system
[12:46] <jelly> lupine_85: I'm not sure my CDs are going to work in this old machine, but it already has debian installed.
[12:46] <clearzne> So I've been thinking of encrypting all traffic coming in and out of my network using gpg. However I don't know enough about gpg to do this yet. Could anyone give suggestions on the best way to approach this?
[12:46] <lupine_85> mmm, use the alternative install CD?
[12:46] <th_> lupine_85, also gotta thank you for your help earlier, I forgot who it was who helped me before stefg .. :) but it was u, and it was just my mb bios that needed updating
[12:46] <lupine_85> that'd work on anything
[12:46] <lupine_85> np :)
[12:47] <th_> :)
[12:47] <jelly> lupine_85: it mightn't work on a cdrom drive that's really picky with the media.
[12:47] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: well, just a bit. I have now little time for developing :/. http://personal.telefonica.terra.es/web/exkq/pspectrum/index.html
[12:47] <mkquist> network problem, cant access network or internet after updates.  Newly reinstalled ubuntu..  any help?
[12:47] <ompaul> clearzne, forget it and use ssh
[12:47] <lupine_85> true enough, I guess
[12:47] <ompaul> clearzne, use gpg for email only
[12:47] <clearzne> isn't gpg more secure??
[12:47] <lupine_85> you can also install from hard disc, or pretty much anything you want to
[12:48] <Alakazamz0r> cool HexDump
[12:48] <lupine_85> might as well give the debootstrap a go, though - I'm just not sure how much extra configuration the installer does
[12:48] <lupine_85> certainly, locales etc.
[12:48] <ompaul> clearzne, maybe the industry standard of ssh is useful?
[12:49] <am4nda>  Does anyone know how to get symbol fonts to work in firefox? ive tried searching the web and none of the fixes there worked. ive got Standard Symbols L installed
[12:49] <th_> lupine_85, so.. who to ask for help to fix ubuntu so it will install onto a nvraid RAID drive without any hacks? ;) i would  like to help make it that way
[12:49] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: well, it is good to spend some time playing this nifty jewels ;)
[12:49] <Alakazamz0r> heheh
[12:49] <th_> I did write the RAID driver for Medley bios raid for 2.4 kernels.. see http://www.infowares.com/linux/
[12:50] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: where are you from? europe?
[12:50] <Alakazamz0r> No, im from Houston TX USA
[12:50] <ompaul> am4nda, maybe people don't have the info you need to help you, perhaps a mail to the ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com would help
[12:50] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: oh!, so, Atari & CBM is the thing for you :)
[12:50] <JustAPanda_1934> Hello, all! I'm looking for help re: ubuntu config for mail
[12:50] <JustAPanda_1934> Is it okay to post my problem?
[12:51] <Alakazamz0r> Dreamcast ;)
[12:51] <Alakazamz0r> i like dreamcast.
[12:51] <am4nda> ompaul: thank you
[12:51] <lupine_85> th_: #ubuntu-dev ?
[12:51] <lupine_85> !dev
[12:51] <Crippy-Boy> Dreamcast kicks ass, I miss mine :(
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <lupine_85> !development
[12:51] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[12:51] <dlangeliers> i still have 2
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <lupine_85> bah
[12:51] <th_> okie lupine_85
[12:51] <ompaul> JustAPanda_1934, as long as it is not more than two lines long if it is please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:51] <ompaul> !it
[12:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:51] <dlangeliers> one with a transparent blue case :)
[12:52] <ompaul> th_, do introduce your previous life before you suggest what you would like to do ;-)
[12:52] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: well, you're young :), don you?
[12:52] <mustafa> hi
[12:52] <Alakazamz0r> hehe kinda.
[12:52] <Alakazamz0r> 27 years
[12:52] <JustAPanda_1934> ompaul, thanks for the tip, thought i'd better ask, now i'm glad I did - my problem is described here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26813/
[12:53] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: ummm, whell I'm 32 :D
[12:53] <Alakazamz0r> hah!
[12:53] <Alakazamz0r> in THAT case, yes im young.
[12:53] <th_> ompaul, ;)
[12:53] <th_> good point
[12:53] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: HexDump wins, flawless victory ^-^
[12:53] <Alakazamz0r> LOL!
[12:53] <Alakazamz0r> touche`
[12:54] <ompaul> !offotpic
[12:54] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offotpic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:55] <brian|lfs> hello can someone please explain to me how to install Ubuntu
[12:55] <Alakazamz0r> brb cig
[12:55] <tritonx> can someone help me with my mail server, apache, ftp, works fine but the mail service respond only localy
[12:55] <stefg> !install
[12:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:55] <HexDump> Alakazamz0r: bye man, I need some sleep
[12:55] <Daemonik> I have an ati card, an (stupid letter)X800"xt" and a kick ass 4 ghz processor. I want to get going with Xgl + Beryl right away. Will that be easy with Kubuntu or should I go and get myself an .iso of this Edgy Eft I've been hearing about?
[12:56] <HexDump> Bye all!
[12:56] <gre3> how do i setup ad-hoc between ubuntu and xp?
[12:56] <gre3> xp as host
[12:56] <brian|lfs> I was joking lol
[12:56] <{ergo}Proxy> can anyone help me please
[12:56] <{ergo}Proxy> i have a problem with vpn cisco, after i installed it and connected to the internet, like said in the ubuntu forum, when i try to update or download smth. my computer hangs
[12:56] <stefg> Daemonik: uhoh... you're asking for trouble and frustration.....
[12:56] <{ergo}Proxy> http://www.popey.com/node/62
[12:57] <gre3> anyone kno how?
[12:57] <stefg> !xgl
[12:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:57] <|amicraw|> how come  esay ubnut works?
[12:57] <JustAPanda_1934> Amavisd is giving me an error about $myhostname not being a FQDN (I need t edit the config file but do not know WHERE it is located on my installation - amavis.conf does not exist as is popularly suggested)... help anyone?
[12:57] <tritonx> !aiglx
[12:57] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[12:57] <|amicraw|> nb
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[12:57] <LoRez> Warning: `|amicraw|' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[12:57] <XiXaQ> is it possible to disable the fading effects when you want to shut down, give admin rights, etc? It consumes alot of resources when running via vnc..
[12:57] <|amicraw|> l
[12:57] <gre3> how do i setup ad-hoc between ubuntu and xp?
[12:58] <stefg> !dualboot
[12:58] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[12:58] <tritonx> sudo dpkg-reconfigure ad-hoc
[12:58] <Daemonik> stefg, Really? How so?
[12:58] <X-man> j
[12:58] <gre3>  tritonx,?
[12:59] <tritonx> gre:its a joke, what do you mean ad-hoc
[12:59] <gre3> computer to computer internet
[12:59] <JustAPanda_1934> Are there any official support people in here or is thi voluntary? i thought i was heading into the official tech talk support chat...?
[12:59] <lupine_85> it's all voluntary, but in an official sense
[12:59] <JustAPanda_1934> oh, i see
[12:59] <tritonx> gre: oh with a computer acting as a router with 2 nics ? i use firstarter for that
[01:00] <lupine_85> commercial tech support is pretty expensive
[01:00] <{ergo}Proxy> i have a problem with vpn cisco, after i installed it and connected to the internet, like said in the ubuntu forum, when i try to update or download smth. my computer hangs
[01:00] <stefg> Daemonik: this is all very beta stuff... intended for developers and masochist ^H^H^H^H^H early adopters. not everything works as expected
[01:00] <darnell> whats the command that gives me all info about my motherboard
[01:00] <JavaDeveloper> anyone knows where do I find libssl-dev package after I installed from apt-get? where do I find the header files?
[01:00] <lupine_85> lshw ?
[01:00] <XiXaQ> gre3, plug a network cable between the computers. Give them ips. One should have two interfaces where one is connected to the internet and the other to the other computer.
[01:00] <keltorsori> anyone out there able to help a newbie get a nic up and running?
[01:00] <{ergo}Proxy> can anyone help me please
[01:00] <lupine_85> JavaDeveloper: dpkg -l (that's L) libssl-dev
[01:00] <darnell> thanx
[01:00] <Daemonik> stefg, You're talking to a Gentoo user. :-P
[01:00] <gre3> btw its wireless and xp has internet
[01:00] <JavaDeveloper> lupine_85: you mean -L?
[01:00] <lupine_85> erm, dpkg -L
[01:00] <lupine_85> yep :)
[01:01] <JavaDeveloper> thanks
[01:01] <stefg> Daemonik: finished compiling Xchat, I'll assume :-)
[01:01] <tritonx> so set the xp machine as a dhcp on the wireless
[01:01] <jelly> {ergo}Proxy: you might want to try vpnc package instead of the Cisco's proprietary software.
[01:01] <tritonx> dhcp share
[01:01] <XiXaQ> gre3, then make the windows computer a gateway. Let the ubuntu pc use the xp machine as dns and gateway.
[01:01] <Daemonik> stefg, Finished compiling it a looooong time ago, on this 900 mhz laptop.
[01:01] <keltorsori> i just did a fresh install and only configured my eth1 interface during the install
[01:01] <gre3> how do i do that tho?
[01:01] <keltorsori> need to get eth0 up and running now
[01:01] <wastrel> edgy is better
[01:01] <gre3> i kinda dumb
[01:01] <wastrel> for xgl i think.
[01:01] <tritonx> use the wizard,
[01:02] <lupine_85> for xgl it doesn't matter too much
[01:02] <JavaDeveloper> lupine_85: it shows a lot of files but they are all from man pages folder
[01:02] <lupine_85> main advantage for edgy is nvidia betas
[01:02] <tritonx> you will have better chance checking on M$ site for that
[01:02] <gre3> i set connection to shared have a connection but no internet ..
[01:02] <XiXaQ> gre3, in Ubuntu, select the network interface in System > Administration > Networking. Give it an IP, 192.168.1.2 for instance.
[01:03] <JavaDeveloper> lupine_85: got it...but then isn't all header files are .h? is .a header file? or library?
[01:03] <stefg> Daemonik: have fun in #ubuntu-xgl and #ubuntu+1... probably edgy is the way to go if you want xgl... if you can get it going
[01:03] <gre3> any ip work?
[01:03] <lupine_85> .a is binary, IIRC
[01:04] <tritonx> gre: are you sure the wireless is activated? is that same computer used to be plugged in that config under XP or is it something new you are trying ?
[01:04] <XiXaQ> gre3, for the local network, you can use most. You should use the one I gave you. Let the other pcs local interface use 192.168.1.1
[01:04] <lupine_85> dpkg -L libssl-dev |grep include
[01:04] <ragnar_123> hey guys!
[01:05] <lupine_85> e.g. /usr/include/openssl/crypto.h
[01:05] <Daemonik> stefg, Shouldn't be too hard as long as ati-drivers aren't a problem. I tried all three different versions of ati-drivers with both unmasked versions of xorg with Gentoo and neither of the xorgs would get along with any of them because they're effing blobs.
[01:05] <{ergo}Proxy> jelly thanks for the reply
[01:05] <ragnar_123> how do I get quicktime ?
[01:05] <stefg> So join #ubuntu-xgl and #ubuntu+1 and read the /topic :-)
[01:06] <gre3> i set the ip on ubuntu it still doesnt work
[01:06] <dabaR> !restricted > ragnar_123
[01:07] <keltorsori> anybody?
[01:07] <Seeker1> anyone here is AMSN?
[01:07] <gre3> what do i do?
[01:07] <ragnar_123> dabaR: thanks ;)
[01:07] <Seeker1> anyone here using AMSN?
[01:07] <jrib> ubotu: tell ragnar_123 about quicktime
[01:07] <dabaR> keltorsori: you want instructions on setting up eth0
[01:07] <jrib> oh way too slow
[01:07] <stefg> !info libquicktime
[01:07] <ubotu> Package libquicktime does not exist in any distro I know
[01:08] <stefg> !info libquicktime0
[01:08] <ubotu> libquicktime0: A library for reading and writing Quicktime files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.7-0.4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1076 kB
[01:08] <gre3> anyone?
[01:08] <keltorsori> dabaR: yep, i've got eth1 up, it's a private subnet, 192.168.0.xxx, need eth0 setup to work on my network, got a router, should assign in the 192.168.1.xxx subnet
[01:09] <XiXaQ> gre3, you have to configure xp to share its internet connection. Try pinging the xp box to see if the network itself is up.
[01:09] <dabaR> keltorsori: so you want to know how to set up eth0 as a dhcp interface?
[01:09] <gre3> how do i ping?
[01:09] <JavaDeveloper> lupine_85: thanks..found
[01:10] <XiXaQ> gre3, on ubuntu, open a console and type ping 192.168.1.1
[01:10] <keltorsori> got it i think
[01:10] <XiXaQ> gre3, you should see something like this: 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.044 ms
[01:11] <gre3> unreachable
[01:11] <XiXaQ> gre3, the xp machine has to network interfaces, right?
[01:12] <gre3> 2?
[01:12] <shasbot> will it be easy to upgrade to the final stable release of edgy eft from the beta?
[01:12] <XiXaQ> gre3, if it's going to act as a gateway, then it has to have at least two interfaces.
[01:12] <dabaR> shasbot: ya, a dist-upgrade
[01:12] <jrib> shasbot: yes, just a dist-upgrade, like you should usually be doing now
[01:12] <gre3> has ethernet hard whereinternet is and usb wifi thingy
[01:12] <shasbot> sweet, thanks
[01:13] <XiXaQ> gre3, and the ubuntu machine is going to connect to the xp machine using wireless?
[01:13] <gre3> hopefully
[01:13] <XiXaQ> gre3, then xps wifi should have the ip 192.168.1.1. have you done that yet?
[01:13] <gre3> no
[01:14] <XiXaQ> do so.
[01:14] <seamus7> hi ... i'm doing a reinstall of my ubuntu system and was wondering, before I begin installing extra apps, what the difference is between J2SE w/Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox  and  JRE v5.0 Update 8?   ... I see that these are listed separately in the Ubuntu Dapper Guide.
[01:14] <gre3> ok
[01:14] <gre3> now what?
[01:14] <clearzen> may
[01:14] <XiXaQ> gre3, now ubuntus wifi should have the ip address 192.168.1.2
[01:14] <gre3> it dooes
[01:15] <XiXaQ> gre3, it should also use 192.168.1.1 as gateway
[01:15] <Makura> newb here. is there a way to remote control ubuntu from a windows based client?
[01:15] <tritonx> Makura: there is plenty of vnc viewer out there
[01:15] <XiXaQ> Makura, yes, there are alot of ways, and more than one is an awesome way of doing that.
[01:16] <tritonx> Makura: activate it from system-prefs
[01:16] <XiXaQ> Makura, FreeNX is really cool. You have to install a small application on the windows machine. The server and client is easily installed though.
[01:16] <Makura> thanks for all the help i will look right now :D
[01:16] <gre3> ok
[01:17] <gre3> then what?
[01:17] <tritonx> gre: ping
[01:18] <gre3> still unreachable
[01:19] <XiXaQ> gre3, are both interfaces active?
[01:19] <gre3> yes
[01:19] <Lam_> !edgy
[01:19] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:19] <gre3> it shows its connected in xo
[01:19] <gre3> xp*
[01:19] <demio> hey
[01:19] <seamus7> hi ... I'm wondering if I need both Java apps for my Ubuntu listed in the Dapper guide here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Add-On_Applications ?  or are these the same thing?  (J2SE  and JRE v.5 upd.8)
[01:19] <demio> does anyone know a way to make Openoffice not replace "01" with "1"??
[01:19] <gre3> do i need to set gateway on xp?
[01:19] <XiXaQ> gre3, now xp is 192.168.1.1 and ubuntu is 192.168.1.2?
[01:19] <tritonx> gre: connected to what ?
[01:20] <demio> im trying to make a binary table for a project but the fucker keeps replacing the stuff
[01:20] <demio> :(
[01:20] <tritonx> gre: no gateway on xp
[01:20] <gre3> so ssid i made
[01:20] <linuxcrazy> how do I play a vro file from my videocamera?
[01:20] <eXistenZ> gre3, #openoffice
[01:20] <linuxcrazy> it's set on vro and I need a program to either unpack the video or play it
[01:20] <tritonx> I remember a nice wizard I use to share two pci network card, must do the same in your case
[01:20] <ssdd534> how would i mount a hard drive from the ubuntu live disk
[01:20] <linuxcrazy> anyone know?
[01:20] <tritonx> gre:its setup local network or something like that
[01:21] <gre3> XiXaQ, yes
[01:21] <stefg> !mount
[01:21] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[01:21] <tritonx> gre: and leave the ubuntu to dhcp
[01:21] <gre3> i tried that
[01:21] <XiXaQ> linuxcrazy, think you should try using a dvd player.
[01:21] <linuxcrazy> lol
[01:21] <gre3> i dont think my internet is gettin from ethernet to usb wifi
[01:21] <linuxcrazy> dude
[01:22] <linuxcrazy> a dvd player does not play vro files does it?
[01:22] <clyrrad> anyone know how to rename a smbfs share that is auto mounted?  I am refering to the icon that shows on your desktop... anyone know how to do this?
[01:22] <tritonx> gre: did that configuration ever worked , with the other comp on xp or osx?
[01:22] <XiXaQ> gre3, that's correct. But that doesn't matter yet. First we must let xp and ubuntu communicate. If you ping 192.168.1.1 from ubuntu, you still don't get a response? and the other way around?
[01:22] <XiXaQ> linuxcrazy, I think they do.
[01:23] <gre3> how do i ping ubuntu?
[01:23] <gre3> from xp?
[01:23] <clyrrad> by its IP
[01:23] <tuxub> gre3, start, run, cmd, ping IPADDRESS
[01:23] <ssdd534> how would i mount a hard drive from the ubuntu live disk?
[01:24] <seamus7> What's the difference between J2SE  and JRE v.5 upd.8 ?  I just installed Ubuntu and am looking at add-ons. :)
[01:24] <tuxub> gre3, get ubuntu IP by issuing ifconfig on ubuntu command line
[01:24] <clyrrad> so does anyone know the answer to my question?  I been here for hours no one seems to know.... all I wanna do is rename the shares that show on my desktop after mounting a smbfs share - do any of you know how to do this?
[01:24] <stefg> !mount > ssdd534
[01:24] <gre3> i get connection timed out on xp
[01:25] <tuxub> what is the ip on both machines
[01:25] <tuxub> ?
[01:25] <tuxub> issue ipconfig on XP and ifconfig on ubuntu
[01:26] <clyrrad> hrm - guess not :(
[01:26] <XiXaQ> linuxcrazy, have you tried running a vro file using a dvd player yet? It's always interesting to hear how it went. :)
[01:26] <ubutom> clyrrad, have you tried right click to rename it? ;) Or how about, if renaming doesn` t work, you just delete it and recreate the shares with the desired name? maybe you just have to unmount and remount them, dunno
[01:26] <clyrrad> I have tried all that.....
[01:27] <gre3> whatd i do wrong?
[01:27] <clyrrad> when you mount a share - ubuntu auto creates an icon on your desktop
[01:27] <clyrrad> and there seems to be no way to rename it
[01:27] <clyrrad> if I create a folder and mount direct to the desktop - then I have to icons that go to the same place which is pointless
[01:27] <XiXaQ> gre3, do as tuxub asked you too.
[01:28] <stefg> !samba
[01:28] <clyrrad> so far - no one seems to know how to rename these - and i would really like to know how / if its possible to do so
[01:28] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:28] <Novh> Hi guys
[01:28] <peder_> How can I share a folder and make it readable, browseable, writeable for all users without password in samba?
[01:28] <ubutom> clyrrad,  hm, are they in your fstab?
[01:28] <Novh> I downloaded Kubuntu 6.06 desktop CD
[01:28] <clyrrad> the shares?
[01:28] <Novh> but it wont boot
[01:28] <stefg> !samba
[01:28] <clyrrad> i mean mounts?
[01:28] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:28] <ubutom> yup
[01:28] <clyrrad> yes
[01:28] <clyrrad> that is where I define them so they auto load and auto mount
[01:28] <gre3> the ip i set for ubuntu is 192.168.1.1
[01:28] <clyrrad> but I cant seem to find a parameter that lets me set their name
[01:29] <rojoneck> when are they realising ubuntu 6.10?
[01:29] <stefg> !schedule
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:29] <gre3> the wireless ip on xp is 192.168.1.1
[01:29] <tritonx> gre:!!!! dont you see a problem ?
[01:29] <XiXaQ> gre3, they can't have the same ip. XP should have 192.168.1.1 and Ubuntu should have 192.168.1.2
[01:29] <spencer> Hey everyone, Im looking for some help, I am having trouble with my keyboard on Ubuntu.
[01:29] <ubutom> clyrrad, hm, you could give them  name in fstab i think... but dunno, if its on auto its on auto i guess ;)
[01:30] <Seeker1> anyone here is AMSN?
[01:30] <clyrrad> i thought there would be a lable= or a name= paramter - but i cant find one anywhere
[01:30] <gre3> thats how it is
[01:30] <Seeker1> anyone here use AMSN?
[01:30] <gre3> typo
[01:30] <clyrrad> ubutom - yea something like that is what I am looking for
[01:30] <clyrrad> but i cant find it
[01:30] <stefg> clyrrad: read the samba-doc
[01:30] <clyrrad> its like it does not exist
[01:30] <spencer> My super Key dosnt work, and my num-pad dosnt work unless i hold shift
[01:30] <m0> !xmms
[01:30] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:30] <clyrrad> stefg - why do you think its samba related?
[01:30] <clyrrad> its only on this desktop that I can not rename the desktop icon that points to the share
[01:30] <thomas> My computer runs REALLY slow in Ubuntu
[01:31] <stefg> clyrrad: are you using nfs to export your shares?
[01:31] <clyrrad> no
[01:31] <gre3> ubuntu is 192.168.1.2**
[01:31] <clyrrad> just smbfs mount
[01:31] <Subhuman> thomas, is this the live cd?
[01:31] <thomas> No
[01:31] <stefg> clyrrad: so you're using samba
[01:31] <clyrrad> yes
[01:31] <Subhuman> okay, just checking.
[01:31] <thomas> I have it fully installed
[01:31] <XiXaQ> gre3, I'm sorry. I can help you no further. I'm not very experienced with wifi, I'm very tired, and it's been a while since I used xp.
[01:31] <ubutom> thomas, what hardware do you have?
[01:31] <thomas> I have FGLRX drives for my ATi card
[01:31] <tuxub> gre3, if you have different ips you should be able to ping between them
[01:31] <clyrrad> but on all windows boxes etc I can rename the icon that points to their shares - but on this ubuntu install I cant
[01:32] <thomas> AMD Athlon 3500+
[01:32] <thomas> ATI Radeon X850XT
[01:32] <tuxub> do you have firewall on any of them?
[01:32] <thomas> 2gb RAM
[01:32] <tuxub> is the xp firewall enabled?
[01:32] <thomas> 450Gb HD
[01:32] <ubutom> hm, ok, then it shouldnt be slow lol
[01:32] <spencer> Is there anyone out there that can help me enable the Super key, and let me use the number pad?
[01:32] <thomas> Thhe CPU runs half as fast in this as it does in Windows
[01:32] <thomas> And OpenGL runs abysmally slow, around 3 FPS
[01:32] <clyrrad> stefg - I dont see anyway to set the name for the auto mounts samba makes for this install - do you know of a way to do this?
[01:32] <XiXaQ> gre3, don't give up. You'll get it right eventually. There are good windows helper channels around too. Perhaps you could benefit from them. Good luck! :)
[01:33] <stefg> clyrrad: might it be that you have to accept that linux works differenet from windows ? :-) There's a sh**-load of documentation on samba, just idling around to be ignored by clyrrad ....
[01:33] <seamus7> Anyone know if these two are exactly the same thing:  J2SE  and  JRE v.5 upd.8  ... if not what's the difference? (I'm picking add-ons for my Ubuntu installation)
[01:33] <clyrrad> im starting to think its not possible to rename your mounts....
[01:34] <clyrrad> stefg - I do not ignore documention - infact I checked that and googled for hours before even asking the question here
[01:34] <gre3> what do i do?
[01:34] <clyrrad> it looks like its not possible when you start to get answers like you just gave me
[01:34] <kitche> seamus7: JRE is just the runtime enviroment and J2SE has the SDK also
[01:34] <tritonx> gre: call microsoft
[01:34] <Daemonik> clyrrad, Not while they're mounted. Unmount them, rename the directories, remount.
[01:34] <tuxub> gre3, did you read what i wrote?
[01:34] <Daemonik> clyrrad, Which is just a guess.
[01:35] <spencer> ? Can anyone help me out?
[01:35] <clyrrad> Daemoonik - the directorys are named how I want them
[01:35] <clyrrad> but they dont show on the desktop how I named them
[01:35] <seamus7> kitche: do I likely need both as listed here as add-ons: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Add-On_Applications
[01:35] <clyrrad> they show as Remote Share (//IP ADDRESS/Share Name) Share Name
[01:35] <clyrrad> instead of just Share Name
[01:35] <thomas> So can anybody help me?
[01:35] <clyrrad> I want to get rid of the whole "Remote Share (blah blah) " stuff
[01:36] <clyrrad> so it just shows the Share Name
[01:36] <tritonx> thomas: what is your vid card ,have you tried to install any driver?
[01:36] <ubutom> clyrrad, I used LinNeighborhood and stuff for samba, never added it direct to /etc/fstab, so im sorry that i am not of much help here ;) Maybe you could write a script that mounts your shares with a custo name, or something like that....
[01:36] <clyrrad> I would if there was such a parameter
[01:36] <thomas> Radeon X850XT, I installed FGLRX drivers
[01:36] <clyrrad> this is my question
[01:36] <clyrrad> how to set such a name
[01:36] <kitche> seamus7: you can it doesn't matter really though
[01:36] <gre3>  tuxub, which part?
[01:37] <tritonx> thomas: sry dont have much experience with ATI drivers
[01:37] <thomas> Okay
[01:37] <tuxub> gre3, the part where you check if you have the xp firewall enabled or not?
[01:37] <thomas> Thanks anyways
[01:37] <ubutom> hey clyrrad i got a great idea :D
[01:37] <clyrrad> starting to look grim that its even possible
[01:37] <tritonx> thomas: have you tried the tutorials available on that matter ?
[01:37] <peder_> http://pastebin.no/384 <- Anything wrong with that samba share? I cant access it
[01:37] <clyrrad> ubutom - im all ears
[01:37] <ubutom> ask in #samba, maybe someone there has a clue
[01:37] <thomas> Where would I get tutorials?
[01:37] <ubutom> they should have :D
[01:37] <gre3> oh its enabled
[01:37] <stefg> clyrrad: have a look in /etc/samba/smb.conf and think a while about the names in [brackets] ... what could that be....?
[01:37] <tuxub> gre3, and check if you have any firewall on ubuntu by issuing sudo iptables -L
[01:38] <tuxub> gre3, disable xp firewall
[01:38] <tritonx> thomas: google ATI ubuntu
[01:38] <clyrrad> stefg - YES that is my question.... what parameter can we set in there
[01:38] <clyrrad> ubutom - im gonna check in #samba i may have more luck there
[01:38] <clyrrad> thanks :)
[01:38] <Diego> Alright guys. I just formatted C: and reinstalled WinXP on a 20GB partition in my 80GB hdd. I have my trusty Ubuntu CD next to me. What do I do now? I was told I needed to boot from it and create /, /home and swap partitions. Is this done from the Ubuntu CD or do I need something special?
[01:38] <stefg> clyrrad: as the samba-documentation would tell tell you it's the exported name of the share
[01:39] <tritonx> Diego: can all be done on the livecd
[01:39] <thomas> what about my processor?
[01:39] <thomas> It runs much slower than in windows
[01:39] <gubluntu> how do i stop x from auto starting when i boot?
[01:39] <thomas> Takes me 30 seconds to render a fractal rather than 5
[01:39] <Diego> So I just pop it in, boot from it and off I go?
[01:39] <spencer> Hello? Can ANYONE help me with my problem here. I really want to enable the Super-Key, I would really like to have it for Amarok and for Compiz
[01:39] <wastrel> gubluntu:  apt-get remove gdm
[01:39] <LjL> Diego: yes
[01:39] <tritonx> thomas: how can your processor be slower ... ?
[01:40] <Diego> Danke!
[01:40] <gubluntu> ...
[01:40] <gubluntu> o rly?
[01:40] <thomas> I dont know
[01:40] <Diego> Oh, also, once I freshly install Ubuntu, what command do I need to install Xchat?
[01:40] <thomas> But it runs much slower than in Windows
[01:40] <wastrel> gubluntu:  or if you prefer,  update-rc.d gdm remove
[01:40] <wastrel> something like that
[01:40] <bill6> Diego: I think the installation will set it up for you
[01:40] <thomas> I wish I knew why
[01:40] <gubluntu> i want to keep my gdm though
[01:40] <Diego> Wonderful.
[01:40] <gubluntu> i like my compiz
[01:40] <LjL> Diego: sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[01:41] <tritonx> thomas: if something is broken or too many services can do that
[01:41] <gubluntu> it will mess up my settings and the sort
[01:41] <gre3> firewalls are off
[01:41] <tuxub> Diego, or sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:41] <gre3> still doesnt work
[01:41] <tuxub> gre3, does it ping now?
[01:41] <wastrel> compiz needs gdm running?
[01:41] <LjL> tuxub: except Diego will have to enable Universe first for that
[01:41] <gre3> timed out still\
[01:41] <thomas> How would I know if something's broken?
[01:41] <gubluntu> i beleve my xgl starts through gdm
[01:41] <tuxub> LjL, you are right
[01:41] <thomas> Its almost a frehinstall
[01:41] <thomas> fresh install*
[01:41] <gubluntu> compiz needs xgl
[01:42] <jobby> spencer: bind something to the super key in gconf-editor
[01:42] <Diego> How do I enable Universe? It's a good thing to enable, from what I gather.
[01:42] <tuxub> gre3, how are your machines connected to each other?
[01:42] <wastrel> i don't use xgl
[01:42] <wastrel> so dunno
[01:42] <gubluntu> ubotu tell Diago about repositories
[01:42] <tritonx> thomas: so you didnt installed the video driver ? you need to and youll get much better performance
[01:42] <tuxub> Diego, you must edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:42] <gubluntu> ubotu tell Diego about repositories
[01:42] <thomas> I did install it
[01:42] <thomas> And it runs really slow with openGL
[01:42] <tuxub> Diego, sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:42] <gre3> wireless i set xp to ad-hoc only made ssid called ad-hoc and ubuntu noticed it
[01:43] <tuxub> Diego, and uncomment the lines for universe
[01:43] <gubluntu> wastrel, there is no other way to stop it from starting x automagically?
[01:43] <nolimitsoya> say i want to switch filesystem on my root-partition, would it be ok to just tar everything in / using the switch to exclude every other filesystem, format, untar, and think everything would just work? what happens to virtual filesystems like proc, for example?
[01:43] <coder> this is driving me insane.  i have an HP Laserjet 1020.  I can't get a page to print in dapper.
[01:43] <tuxub> Diego, then do sudo apt-get update
[01:43] <Diego> Sounds easy enough.
[01:43] <Seeker1> anyone here use AMSN?
[01:43] <tuxub> Diego, it is :)
[01:43] <LjL> nolimitsoya: proc won't be copy if you set the option to exclude other filesystems
[01:43] <wastrel> gubluntu:  i don't believe so - maybe someone smarter than me knows differently...
[01:43] <coder> It seems to detect the printer just fine. and worked fine before dapper
[01:43] <Seeker1> !asmn
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asmn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <tuxub> gre3, you are connecting the two machines throug a ad-hoc wireless network?
[01:44] <coder> the print job shows up in the queue and then disappears and nothing ever happens
[01:44] <nolimitsoya> LjL, i understand that, but would it couse a major problem, or would those filesystems be created on the next boot?
[01:44] <gre3> yes
[01:44] <gubluntu> thanks anywho wastrel
[01:44] <LjL> nolimitsoya: they're virtual, so they're not actually there on the disk at all.
[01:44] <coder> and im sure i'll get no help here.. just venting now basically
[01:44] <spencer> jobby. I Cant even use the Super-key. I read some info online you can change it in keyboard preferences, under layout options, but. its tottaly empty.
[01:45] <tuxub> gre3, man, ad-hoc wireless networks on xp sucks
[01:45] <tuxub> :)
[01:45] <nolimitsoya> LjL, does that mean that what im planning should be hasslefree? :)
[01:45] <gre3> i kno
[01:45] <tuxub> gre3, trust me, you dont really wanna do that
[01:45] <LjL> nolimitsoya: no, it just means that i don't think /proc could be a problem.
[01:45] <gre3> but i have no other choice
[01:45] <nolimitsoya> ok, thanks
[01:45] <tuxub> gre3, dont you have a crossover cable?
[01:45] <nolimitsoya> anyone ever tried this manouver?
[01:45] <FifaFrazer> how can I change permissions for an ntfs drive, that is read-only?
[01:45] <gre3> not a long enough one
[01:45] <gre3> i want wireless
[01:46] <LjL> !ntfs > FifaFrazer
[01:46] <tuxub> :)
[01:46] <tuxub> buy an ap
[01:46] <gre3> even if its crappy
[01:46] <LjL> !enter
[01:46] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:46] <tuxub> 30? on then nearest computer store
[01:46] <tuxub> ad-hoc on xp really sucks
[01:46] <gre3> can it work?
[01:46] <Seeker1> anyone here use AMSN?
[01:46] <tuxub> i really doubt it
[01:46] <tuxub> it can be easier to make your ubuntu an AP!
[01:46] <LjL> !anyone
[01:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:47] <AfterDeath> tuxub: ad-hoc is a bad idea in general
[01:47] <tritonx> tuxub: thats why I reinstalled my server after XP crash for no reason... too many times
[01:47] <gre3> its just for a week
[01:47] <gre3> can someone else help?
[01:47] <AfterDeath> tuxub: it's easier to get a winmodem on a five-year-old linux kernel working, than it is to set up a reliable ad-hoc connection in windows
[01:47] <tuxub> lolol
[01:48] <crass> has anyone had success with hibernating? its seems to hibernate fine, but when I restart it just acts like a fresh reboot (where it can't use the swap since its in a suspend state)
[01:48] <FifaFrazer> LjL but im using the livecd, so icant restart
[01:48] <AfterDeath> crass: i have
[01:48] <tuxub> gre3, try this: http://tips.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/10/1729226&tid=100&tid=35
[01:48] <LjL> FifaFrazer, i don't really even know where the document tells you to restart... but, first thing: writing to NTFS is experimental and dangerous.
[01:48] <AfterDeath> crass: have you specified the resume partition in your boot loader configuration?
[01:48] <crass> AfterDeath: did you have to do anything special? and what model laptop is it?
[01:49] <crass> I don't think so, how do I do that?
[01:49] <AfterDeath> not a laptop, but it shouldn't matter
[01:49] <AfterDeath> do you use grub or lilo?
[01:49] <coder> what does " ppdev0: unregistered pardevice" from dmesg mean?
[01:49] <FifaFrazer> but it dont have to writable ljl - it needs to be accessible for other users
[01:49] <crass> grub
[01:50] <Nihil85> hi!, i nedd a good and safe sources.list repository. can anyone help me?
[01:50] <AfterDeath> you'll have to add something along the lines of resume=/dev/yourSwapPartition into the kernel args
[01:50] <LjL> FifaFrazer: well then that document should explain that. where does it tell you to restart?
[01:50] <Lard-O-Lad> I need some help with Bluetooth on Dapper, I cant xfer files...
[01:50] <AfterDeath> lemme check
[01:50] <gre3> is those for linux or xp?
[01:51] <FifaFrazer> i dont wanna use a script
[01:51] <crass> AfterDeath: since I don't have that, why would the swap partition indicate that it had suspend data on it?
[01:51] <AfterDeath> crass: basically, its like this:
[01:51] <LjL> FifaFrazer: it explains how to do it manually as well.
[01:51] <AfterDeath> <you give suspend command>
[01:51] <xnon> segun lo que veo el kubuntu es ubuntu con kde
[01:51] <LjL> !es
[01:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:51] <xnon> el xubuntu con xfce
[01:51] <LjL> xnon: yes
[01:51] <AfterDeath> <kernel properly writes memory info to swap, and shuts down>
[01:51] <xnon> y el ubuntu GNOME
[01:52] <xnon> no hay otro cambio
[01:52] <crass> right
[01:52] <LjL> yes, pero aqui por favor habla ingles
[01:52] <gre3> i cant get any file to linux comp
[01:52] <AfterDeath> <on booting up, kernel assumes standard boot sequence>
[01:52] <AfterDeath> the kernel needs to be told to look for the resume info in the swap
[01:52] <HeathenDan> !es
[01:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:52] <crass> ahh, ok, that fits with what's happening
[01:53] <xnon> siempre he entrado aqui y conversado con gente en espaol pero si son asi de radicales me voy
[01:53] <xnon> bye
[01:53] <Lard-O-Lad> !bluetooth
[01:53] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:53] <crass> AfterDeath: do you know if ubuntu is using suspend2 or the default?
[01:54] <AfterDeath> crass: not sure, but i'm almost certain it uses the default
[01:54] <AfterDeath> tbh, i don't use ubuntu most of the time, but i hang out in here because a lot of questions are general linux questions :)
[01:54] <thomas> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[01:54] <thomas> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[01:54] <thomas> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
[01:54] <thomas> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
[01:54] <LjL> !paste
[01:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:54] <crass> AfterDeath: what do you use?
[01:55] <AfterDeath> gentoo
[01:55] <tritonx> thomas: upgrade to edgy
[01:55] <thomas> I found the problem
[01:55] <thomas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26821/
[01:55] <thomas> Upgrade to edgy?
[01:55] <thomas> How do I do that?
[01:55] <gre3> anyone hlp?
[01:55] <LjL> !edgy
[01:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:55] <tuxub> !schedule
[01:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:56] <LjL> tritonx: why are you advicing people to upgrade to edgy?
[01:56] <thomas> How do I update to Edgy?
[01:56] <LjL> thomas: you don't
[01:56] <AfterDeath> i prefer gentoo because you do an insane amount of set up, tinkering, etc - i'm hardcore that way. i think ubuntu makes an excellent distro for less experienced users (and I mean that in a good way!)
[01:56] <tritonx> ljl: it fixed my problems
[01:56] <LjL> !works for me
[01:56] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:56] <LjL> edgy is *not released*
[01:56] <wastrel> <3 the works for me factoid
[01:57] <tritonx> ;P
[01:57] <wastrel> sassy + cool = school
[01:57] <Lard-O-Lad> edgy is gonna be released on the 26th right?
[01:57] <LjL> Lard-O-Lad: yes
[01:57] <thomas> So what do I do?
[01:57] <LjL> at least it should
[01:57] <abbot45> i'm having a problem extracting some RAR archives.  they are password protected and i have the password, but it doesn't prompt for a password when i try to extract them.  it just gives me an output error saying the password is incorrect.
[01:57] <thomas> What does this mean: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26821/
[01:57] <crass> AfterDeath: I think you're right in general, but I think also ubuntu is the best (that I've seen) for binary distros (which are useful when you don't have a machine wher its worth compiling everything
[01:57] <gre3> can someone help me with ad-hoc between xp and ubuntu?
[01:57] <Fryguy--> how hard is it to get dual display working w/ radeon cards in current ubuntu? I haven't used linux on my desktop in about 1.5 years, and would like to load it again
[01:57] <LjL> thomas: what is the actual problem?
[01:57] <AfterDeath> crass: that is also true
[01:58] <crass> personally I think gentoo still has a lot of work (that they don't seem to be doing) in terms of parallelizing compiles
[01:58] <thomas> That
[01:58] <thomas> I found that in my log
[01:58] <thomas> So I dont get 3d hardware acceleration
[01:58] <crass> also, I don't like their method for changing compile time options
[01:58] <AfterDeath> a couple years ago, i would have said that Fedora Core was the best binary distro.... but when yum massive borxinated my computer, i changed my mind about that :)
[01:59] <Lard-O-Lad> i cant seem to get bluetooth to properly pair my cell phone... can someone help?
[01:59] <crass> AfterDeath: I never could get into the redhat distros
[02:00] <abbot45> ??
[02:00] <LjL> thomas: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2005-October/001844.html
[02:00] <visik7> seems that fedora core 6 is much more fast than edgy thanks to the new glibc with dt_gnu_hash
[02:01] <mkquist> newtwork help, no internet/network after updating
[02:01] <AfterDeath> crass: one of the high points of gentoo, is that you have very, very, very few dependencies
[02:01] <abbot45> can anyone help me with my archive manager problem?
[02:01] <AfterDeath> you basically get to decided what optional libraries your stuff will use
[02:01] <Lard-O-Lad> has anyone noticed sound problems using flash?
[02:01] <crass> AfterDeath: yeah, but as I was saying before the way you choose the optional dependancies is a PITA
[02:01] <wastrel> Lard-O-Lad:  did you follow the instructions about that on the restrictedformats page on the wiki?
[02:02] <AfterDeath> crass: nah, just put them into a USE variable in your make.conf
[02:02] <Lard-O-Lad> wastrel: probably not, sudo apt-get install flashnonfree-plugin is really all i did...
[02:02] <routh> can the kernel on the x/k/ubuntu disks boot a system on a usb disk? by say using root=/dev/discs/disc0/part1
[02:02] <visik7> gentoo sucks flags are a totally mess
[02:02] <wastrel> !restricted
[02:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:02] <kitche> AfterDeath: that's sorta a PITA defendently when you don't know what the apps use but then agiain Gentoo devs change almost every month anyways
[02:02] <crass> AfterDeath: yeah, my point is that its a pain to do that.  I like the way that sorcerer has handled the issue (by making it more dynamic and graphical)
[02:03] <bagster> hi folks. I have a problem with the usb ports on my system. If I plug any devices in then the computer freezes
[02:03] <bagster> can anyone helpl?
[02:04] <spencer> #ubuntu-Xgl
[02:04] <kitche> crass: it's sorcery, sorcerer sorta doesn't exist anymore sorcery is the package manager that sorcerer and Source Mage use
[02:04] <ikus060> Hi, I m trying to install a LDAP server and I think that I have scrap the default configuration file and I'm not able to repair it. So If any body can help me ..
[02:04] <ikus060> The problem is that I'm not able to start slapd without an error in the config file about the "rootdn" parameters. Here the line : rootdn "cn=admin,dc=entreprisesmd,dc=com", Also, I fallow the this HOWTO that invite me to supress all content of /var/lib/ldap. It's it a problem ?
[02:05] <Lard-O-Lad> why is ShipIt free?
[02:06] <Samuli^> Lard-O-Lad, because.
[02:06] <wastrel> to encourage ubuntu use
[02:06] <ubutom> ikus060, try #ldap
[02:06] <crass> kitche: I believe sorcerer does exist (http://sorcerer.aakin.net), but you're right in that specifically I was talking about functionality of sorcery (but it was the distro devs that made it)
[02:06] <conky> hi everyone
[02:06] <ikus060> ubutom : Oki ..
[02:06] <Diego> For the same reason John Constantine sends demons to hell. To buy one's way into Heaven.
[02:07] <Makura> sorry to bug again but i am having trouble setting up remote desktop from a windows xp machine to a ubuntu machine
[02:07] <Samuli^> diego, you speak the truth.
[02:07] <kitche> crass: sorcerer hasn't been updated for a very long time but then again that's what happens when you only have one dev and is picky about what software goes in
[02:07] <Lard-O-Lad> hehe
[02:07] <Makura> i was trying to use nx
[02:07] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:07] <nolimitsoya> Makura, try vnc
[02:08] <crass> kitche: the last update seems to be today.  Where are you getting your information from?
[02:08] <nolimitsoya> why isnt there a single linux file system with transparent compression?!
[02:08] <ubutom> Makura, try #nx :)
[02:08] <crass> but I do agree with yo uon the dev issue, its my primary discontent
[02:08] <Samuli^> nolimitsoya, ?
[02:08] <nolimitsoya> Samuli^, have i missed something? :P
[02:09] <Samuli^> transparent compression?
[02:09] <Makura> links?
[02:09] <Lard-O-Lad> *sigh* i guess I'll have to use XP for my bluetooth needs
[02:09] <j0rg3> Hello.  I'm pretty Linux ignorant.  I have tried to google my problem and I have searched (to the best of my ability) the forums before coming here.  I don't have a good understanding of what I can do with apt -- however I am trying to compile a "Hello, world" with KDE C/C++.  I am frustrated and stuck - I can't make this thing happy about QT.  Dependency issues (libqt3-mt-dev) prevent me from Synaptic'ing the files that I think I need.
[02:09] <j0rg3> Was that too long?  ;)
[02:09] <nolimitsoya> Samuli^, compressing files on write, transparent to programs and users
[02:10] <nolimitsoya> like, fe ntfs or zfs
[02:10] <ubutom> Makura, /join #nx, there are more people using nx, i guess ;) i have jsut played around with it a little, so i think you will find help there
[02:10] <Samuli^>  nolimitsoya, I think it's because it's stupid :)
[02:10] <Fryguy--> how hard is it to get dual display working w/ radeon cards in current ubuntu? I haven't used linux on my desktop in about 1.5 years, and would like to load it again
[02:10] <nolimitsoya> saves diskspace, saves i/o, boosts performance. thats not stupid :)
[02:10] <nolimitsoya> thats good :)
[02:10] <Makura> thanks
[02:10] <Samuli^> boosts performance, hardly.
[02:11] <ikus060> Fryguy : easy, you juste have to use the "aticonfig" command
[02:11] <PFA> where can i get  libvisual-0.4-0?
[02:11] <Samuli^> see everything has to be compressed and uncompressed, if not on your harddrive then on the system memory.
[02:11] <nolimitsoya> Samuli^, do the benchmarks yourself. ;) in diskintensive usage, it does wonders
[02:11] <Fryguy--> ikus060: the drivers and stuff are all caught up and stuff? Last I used linux was during the xfree-xorg transition, and at that point radeon drivers weren't doing too well in either environment
[02:11] <nolimitsoya> usualy you have loads of cpu cycels doing nothing
[02:11] <sam11> hello, i
[02:11] <Samuli^> nolimitsoya, at what cost to the cpu?
[02:12] <sam11> is the default ubuntu install gnome or kde?
[02:12] <Samuli^> and memory.
[02:12] <nolimitsoya> very low, with simple compressiontechniques
[02:12] <Novh> Hey
[02:12] <nolimitsoya> memory is no issue either
[02:12] <ikus060> Fryguy : at- this time, AIT offer a proprietary driver that work very well with ubuntu and some other linux distro ...
[02:12] <nolimitsoya> a few extra mp
[02:12] <Samuli^> but to answer your question, I don't think there is such thing.
[02:12] <Novh> When i try to install Kubuntu, i get Buffer I/0 error on device hdc, logical block xxxxxx
[02:12] <nolimitsoya> *m
[02:12] <sam11> will the ubuntu disk install gnome or kde?
[02:12] <nolimitsoya> mb
[02:12] <Samuli^> MB you meen.
[02:12] <Samuli^> mean.
[02:12] <totall_6_7> sam11: gnome is the default for ubuntu desktop
[02:12] <nolimitsoya> Samuli^, i know there isnt, i just wonder why :)
[02:12] <Samuli^> millibits would be a little understated :)
[02:13] <sam11> totall, how can i make it install kde?
[02:13] <nolimitsoya> ^^
[02:13] <ikus060> Fryguy : Here the link to download it : http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html
[02:13] <Lard-O-Lad> samll: kubuntu
[02:13] <Novh> When i try to install Kubuntu, i get Buffer I/0 error on device hdc, logical block xxxxxx
[02:13] <Novh> what shall i do?
[02:13] <sam11> lard, thank you
[02:14] <Fryguy--> hrmm, and one last question, is there a good mp3 player/library app available? I've grown very very accustomed to foobar2000 in windows, and would like something with similar functionality in linux. mostly the automated tagging stuff
[02:14] <nolimitsoya> Novh, try checking your cd for defects
[02:14] <Novh> thats what i did
[02:14] <Novh> and i got that msg
[02:14] <sam11> and has anyone done dual boot ubuntu and windows?
[02:14] <Novh> Buffer I/0 error on device hdc
[02:14] <Lard-O-Lad> samll: yep
[02:14] <nolimitsoya> then burn a new disc :)
[02:14] <sam11> Lard, how easy is it to configure this
[02:14] <timalot> sam11: most ppl probably
[02:14] <Novh> what difference will it make? :O
[02:15] <nolimitsoya> well, the disc you are using now i broken :)
[02:15] <nolimitsoya> *is
[02:15] <Novh> :(
[02:15] <Seeker1> anyone here use AMSN?
[02:15] <Crippy-Boy> Fryguy--, Many, XMMS, AmaroK, and many more, AmaroK being the best (IMO)
[02:15] <Novh> i burned it 10 mins ago :c
[02:15] <sam11> Lard, once I have installed ubuntu, how can I configure it to dual boot
[02:15] <Novh> as soon as i had downloaded the .iso
[02:15] <kitche> crass: from the former devs of sorcerer they do Source Mage now there is only like one guy that does Sorcerer
[02:15] <Lard-O-Lad> samll: install windows first and partition your stuff <<easiest
[02:15] <VictorTorres> hi, my edgy xorg crash when play 3d games in fullscreen mode
[02:15] <ikus060> Fryguy : I dont' know what is foobar2000, but there is a mp3 player, but the ubuntu don't come preinstall with mp3 support. you must install some package
[02:16] <VictorTorres> i've dri=yes
[02:16] <nolimitsoya> Novh, something probably got fu in the burning process, or the download is no good. use k3b and check the box for verifying the copy :)
[02:16] <sam11> Lard, does it use grub loader
[02:17] <nolimitsoya> Novh, and dont forget to verify that the downloaded iso is as it shold be. there should be a reference md5 sum in the download directory
[02:17] <timalot> sam11: he left
[02:17] <nolimitsoya> (on the server
[02:17] <nolimitsoya> )
[02:17] <VictorTorres> hi, my edgy xorg crash when play 3d games in fullscreen mode, i have dri=yes :_(
[02:17] <sam11> can anyone tell me how I can configure ubuntu to dual boot
[02:17] <timalot> sam11: yes the easiest way is to install windows , then install linux with the grub bootloader
[02:18] <timalot> sam11: have u installed windows
[02:18] <sam11> timalot, is the grubloader automatically installed with it
[02:18] <PFA> how do i add dapper-backports?
[02:18] <timalot> sam11: yes
[02:18] <bagster> hi sorry I asked this before but got no reply....  When i plug in usb devices into my compuiter the whole thing freezes I run a dual  PIII system. The terminal  says that the IRQ for those devices is disabled because nobody cared. Which is a rather confusing and depressing error! please help!
[02:18] <Samuli^> VictorTorres, do you happen to have an ATI card?
[02:19] <Novh> nolimitsoya ok, thanks
[02:19] <sam11> i'm going to part the disk then install windows
[02:20] <timalot> sam11: ok ... windows like to be on the first partition of the first disk
[02:20] <VictorTorres> i ve savage card
[02:20] <sam11> timalot, so which file do I need to edit for dual boot
[02:21] <Trae> I was trying to dual boot FC6 and Ubuntu.  I'm trying to get back into Ubuntu.  FC6 has the ability to boot ubuntu, however, it didn't actuallly boot it.  I'm in their "Grub" tool.. I'm in it now at a grub prompt
[02:21] <nolimitsoya> gah! a simple gzip tar of / gives me a 800mb file, instead of 2.4gb data. >_< why is there so much air in these files? :( linux needs a compressing filesystem, bad... a shame zfs is licenseincompatible
[02:21] <mkquist> any help w/network problem after update?
[02:21] <Trae> what would I need to do to try and boot up hd0,0
[02:21] <Trae> nolimitsoya hey bud
[02:21] <jrib> ubutom: tell PFA about backports
[02:21] <Trae> I"m having a sucky time
[02:21] <Trae> nolimitsoya you know about grub?
[02:22] <timalot> sam11: grub is configured with the /boot/gub/menu.1st file .... u edit that then run grub-install to write the changes to the disk
[02:22] <Trae> oh
[02:22] <Trae> oops
[02:22] <Trae> I thought I knew you
[02:22] <Trae> heh
[02:22] <ubutom> backports :P :) sorry, try ubotu :D
[02:22] <nolimitsoya> Trae :)
[02:22] <jrib> ubutom: oops, thanks!
[02:22] <FifaFrazer> how can i mount an ntfs partition with read permission for network users?
[02:22] <jrib> ubotu: tell PFA about backports
[02:22] <Trae> nomasteryoda you here?
[02:22] <LjL> timalot: you don't need to run anything to write changes to the disk, grub reads /boot/grub/menu.lst dynamically
[02:23] <PFA> jrib: thanks
[02:23] <timalot> sam11: no u need to run grub-install to apply the changes
[02:23] <digilink> I just installed apache and I want to allow my normal user to write to it. The /var/www directory is set to: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 2006-10-14 19:16 www, and I tried changing the group to www-data and allowing write access to the group, as well as adding my normal user to the www-data group and I can not write to it. I can't understand what I am doing wrong if anything?
[02:24] <Trae> !grub
[02:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:24] <jrib> digilink: have you logged out and back in witht he user after adding him to the group?
[02:24] <LjL> digilink, that "root root" says that the directory has group "root", not "www-data"...
[02:25] <digilink> jrib: no, but I will try that
[02:25] <O2> hello
[02:25] <timalot> sam11: goto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto it gives a good guide
[02:25] <sam11> timalot thanks a lot
[02:25] <digilink> ljl: I changed it using chgrp -R www-data www, that was just an example of how it's currently set
[02:25] <sid> Where can I look up people involved with ubuntu?
[02:25] <sid> like people.debian.org, but for ubuntu
[02:26] <jrib> sid: maybe launchpad?
[02:26] <sid> jrib: Where in launchpad?
[02:27] <O2> I want to install xgl
[02:27] <timalot> !launchpad
[02:27] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:27] <LjL> !xgl > O2
[02:27] <shinobi2> where's the app for 'cut'? i can't find it in synaptic
[02:27] <sid>  timalot I know where launchpad is, I've been a member for awhile. Where "in" launchpad was my question.
[02:28] <jrib> sid: I would try going to Launchpad > people, then checking out the ubuntu dev team, or core maybe
[02:28] <LjL> shinobi2: coreutils: usr/bin/cut
[02:28] <timalot> sid: sorry ... misread
[02:28] <O2> LjL: could you help?
[02:28] <m0> hi when I do this: d, --directory            list directory entries instead of contents,
[02:28] <LjL> O2: i'm not sure, i don't have Xgl running. anyway why don't you try reading the howto first, and then ask if there's something you can't do?
[02:28] <timalot> shinobi2: u should have it no?
[02:29] <m0> for ls, it doens't list my directories
[02:29] <m0> how else can I list only directories under a pathj?
[02:29] <LjL> O2: (that is, ask -- in #ubuntu-xgl)
[02:29] <tannerld> whats a good screen recorder for linux? I can't find any...
[02:29] <LjL> !info istanbul
[02:29] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 65 kB, installed size 344 kB
[02:30] <jrib> m0: ls -F | grep /$
[02:30] <tannerld> componet universe?
[02:30] <LjL> !universe > tannerld
[02:30] <timalot> m0: find -type d
[02:30] <O2> LjL: OK, thanks!
[02:30] <m0> timalot: I want to do somthing like ls -l /home/m0/
[02:30] <shinobi2> ah... wrong ssh
[02:31] <shinobi2> thx
[02:31] <timalot> m0: do u want the subdirectories listed?
[02:31] <m0> jrip: works ls -F /home/m0/ | grep /$
[02:31] <darnell> does anyone know where ican find themes for gdesklets? since the site is down.
[02:32] <Badkitty> If I want to update from dapper to edgy .. is the command sudo apt-get upgrade?
[02:32] <m0> timalot: no
[02:32] <LjL> !edgy
[02:32] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:32] <m0> timalot: is find faster ?
[02:33] <timalot> m0: find is usually just for finding filenames (but u can display other stuff) ... ls -l gives u other info ... dont know about speed
[02:33] <ephesius> Badkitty: you have to update your sources.list and then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:33] <m0> timalot: how about finding the size of the file?
[02:34] <ephesius> Badkitty: unless you have third party repositories in your sources.list you just change anything that says dapper to edgy
[02:34] <m0> timalot: i meant the size of the directory
[02:34] <LjL> m0: du
[02:34] <kmitch87> Badkitty:  the recommended way is to use update-manager.   sudo update-manager -c -d
[02:34] <timalot> mo: ah ok ... including the contents?
[02:35] <LINK> hi
[02:35] <LINK>  
[02:35] <LjL> LINK: ?
[02:35] <m0> LjL: du lists recursively
[02:35] <m0> timalot: no
[02:35] <LINK>       4 35
[02:35] <LjL> m0: then i haven't understood what you want
[02:35] <LjL> LINK: i'm just reading garbage characters. can you speak english?
[02:36] <m0> timalot: i want to list the directory size + directory name
[02:36] <m0> of that path
[02:36] <LjL> m0: ls -l -d <path>
[02:36] <timalot> mo: du -sck *
[02:37] <O2>  I wonder if my video card support xgl?
[02:37] <O2> intel GMA900, 128MB video ram
[02:37] <m0> du -sck /home/m0/
[02:37] <LINK> fuck im not spick English
[02:37] <m0> just gives me the size of that directory
[02:37] <LINK> fuck
[02:37] <LjL> m0: by "size of the directory", you mean the directory itself, or all its content? that's two quite different things
[02:37] <LINK> fuck
[02:37] <LINK> =(
[02:37] <LjL> !ops
[02:37] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[02:38] <timalot> mo: go to the directory containing the subdirs u want the size of and type du -sk *
[02:38] <Megaqwerty> is there a way to find the ip addresses of the computers on my network?
[02:38] <m0> LjL: i want to list on the screen only the directories with the specific file size,
[02:38] <LjL> m0: uh, that's even less clear to me...
[02:38] <gnomefreak> LjL: that was the person right?
[02:39] <shinobi2> /clos
[02:39] <LjL> gnomefreak: lol. yeah :)
[02:39] <m0> So if I do /home/m0/ it will list my directries, users,backup,photos,
[02:39] <gnomefreak> m0: man ls
[02:39] <olof_> Hello, since I installed ubuntu, i have never gotten one single download over 500Kb/s. in windows i had easily over 4Mb/s. (i have 100mbit)... i have tried diffrent mirrors, and at diffrent times. anyone?
[02:39] <mkquist> anyone help w/no network connection after update?
[02:40] <darnell> does anyone have desklets?
[02:40] <Tampler> I have
[02:41] <LjL> m0: ok. i'm still not getting it. you want to list all the first-level contents (i.e. files, directories, but not sub-directories) of "/home/m0", with name and filesize. correct?
[02:41] <sam11> hello, is java runtime preinstalled in ubuntu?
[02:41] <timalot> darnell: they suck
[02:41] <luisdent> can anyone help me with an apt-get problem
[02:41] <luisdent> sort of a general linux issue
[02:41] <LjL> !anyone
[02:41] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:41] <kmitch87> sam11: no
[02:41] <darnell> i dont care about your opinion
[02:41] <darnell> I like them
[02:41] <unf> hell
[02:41] <kmitch87> sam11: but you can install it from universe
[02:41] <unf> hello
[02:41] <timalot> darnell: ok sorry
[02:41] <jrib> ubotu: tell sam11 about java
[02:41] <m0> LjL: no I want to list all the first-level DIRECTORY contents with name and directorysize
[02:41] <Megaqwerty> is there a way to find the ip addresses of the computers on my network?
[02:41] <timalot> m0: du -sk * ... please
[02:41] <unf> i cant change subtitles' size in totem, does anyone know if is there any solution?
[02:42] <LjL> m0: ok, so, just like "ls -l /home/m0", but with the files left out, and only the directories?
[02:42] <luisdent> i specifically am getting errors that the addresses aren't available
[02:42] <luisdent> 404
[02:42] <sam11> I appreciate it
[02:42] <sam11> ubotu is a bot
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <luisdent> if anyone can help just mesage me :)
[02:43] <wastrel> du -sk ./*  lists only the directories
[02:43] <akira8> GLERROR: cannot access OpenGL library libGL.so
[02:43] <akira8> GLERROR: dlerror() returns [libGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] 
[02:43] <scott_> anyone here run nxclient on ubuntu and had libaudiofile.so.0 errors when trying to get sound working with nxesd?
[02:43] <timalot> wastrel: the whole point of du is to give u sizes... Disk Usage
[02:43] <m0> i want to list the directories of a specific path :)
[02:43] <timalot> m0: du -sk /mypath/*
[02:44] <m0> i will just do this: ls -sF /home/m0/ | grep /$
[02:44] <LjL> wastrel, timalot: du -sk /path/* definitely does *not* only list directories here
[02:44] <m0> timalot ah ok :x, it still gives me the files
[02:45] <wastrel> meh yes i meant doesn't list the directory contents
[02:45] <wastrel> subdirs
[02:45] <m0> its okay :)
[02:45] <timalot> LjL: yeah ok its the * part then ... just du du -sk `find -type d --maxdepth 1`
[02:46] <jrib> m0: in zsh you can just do, ls -ld *(/)
[02:46] <LjL> timalot, m0: what about just   du --max-depth=1 /path/
[02:46] <luisdent> can anyone help me with fixing my repositories and/or apt-get update sources
[02:46] <wastrel> du -sh $(ls -F | grep \/)
[02:47] <kmitch87> luisdent: what exactly is the problem?
[02:47] <LjL> wastrel: i'm still not sure what's wrong with the good old --max-depth option of du... although perhaps i've still not really understood what he wants to do.
[02:47] <olof_> Hello, since I installed ubuntu, i have never gotten one single download over 500Kb/s. in windows i had easily over 4Mb/s. (i have 100mbit)... i have tried diffrent mirrors, and at diffrent times. anyone?
[02:47] <elia> help please
[02:47] <luisdent> i get 404 errors when i do an apt-get update
[02:47] <elia> i lost my grub
[02:47] <tomh-> anyone know why eclipse uses like 100% cpu all the time?
[02:47] <luisdent> and if i use the package manager it says my repositories are unavailable
[02:47] <m0> wastrel: okay, but how do I do any path
[02:48] <luisdent> i'm fairly new to linux with anything more than the basics
[02:48] <wastrel> LjL:  i think he wants to exclude files in the current directory from the output.
[02:48] <luisdent> although i'm sure this is a basic ;)
[02:48] <LuisMendes> I think there's a controversy in ubuntu... it wants to unite the linux world, but then why not unite them in debian instead of creating a whole new distro?
[02:48] <kmitch87> luisdent: the mirrors may simply be to busy, might  try again later
[02:48] <LjL> wastrel: "du --max-depth=1 /some/where" will do that
[02:48] <luisdent> it's been going on two days
[02:48] <jrib> LuisMendes: that's more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <kmitch87> luisdent: are you running dapper or edgy?
[02:48] <wastrel> so it will.
[02:49] <wastrel> ljl wins again.
[02:49] <wastrel> m0:  what ljl said
[02:49] <LjL> well it was really more a matter of understanding the question, honestly =)
[02:49] <m0> oh and then just grep out the hidden folders?
[02:49] <LjL> which i had some hard time doing
[02:50] <jjj> I'm having a hard time setting up a Lexmark X73 printer on Ubuntu (Dapper)- It does nothing (stops the job) if I use the drv_z42 (recommended) driver, however I can get scanning to work, and if I switch to the Gutenprint driver, it throws out a blank page
[02:50] <LjL> m0: gasp - now you don't want the hidden folders either? :P well yeah, just grep out "/." i suppose...
[02:50] <jjj> Anyone know how to get this printer model working?
[02:50] <tomh-> anyone know how to make eclipse work faster under ubuntu?
[02:50] <m0> LjL :)
[02:50] <wastrel> du -sh $(ls -F /some/path/here | grep \/)   :] 
[02:51] <m0> LjL: now let me goto the bash chan and ask them how to store this in an array hehe
[02:51] <LjL> m0:   du --max-depth=1 <path> | grep -v "/\."     would probably work
[02:51] <wastrel> or that
[02:51] <luisdent> how can i tell which ubuntu i have?
[02:51] <wastrel> i just like $() heh
[02:51] <luisdent> it's a version of agnula
[02:51] <m0> what does $() do
[02:51] <wastrel> luisdent:  lsb_release -a
[02:51] <wastrel> m0:  it's like ` `  but easer to type :] 
[02:52] <luisdent> not found
[02:52] <m0> oh :)
[02:52] <Megaqwerty> is there a way to find the ip addresses of the computers on my network?
[02:52] <m0> thanks guys
[02:52] <luisdent> i found another method and it said linux 3.1
[02:52] <wastrel> luisdent:   grep main /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:53] <kmitch87> luisdent: go to System Help System documentation
[02:53] <bern> hi
[02:53] <JacksLivr> evening all: when i installed kubuntu, there was a nifty partiion manager that let me resize my HD partitions so i did not have to blow away my XP install. i need to resize a partition on a smartmedia card and qtparted will not let me resize it. is the one kubuntu used a different one that i can try?
[02:53] <jjj> how do i get cups+gimpprint?
[02:53] <JacksLivr> i know there is a kubuntu channel. no one in kubuntu responding
[02:53] <crass> doesw ubuntu have any grap[hical wireless tools for finding networks, like kismet?
[02:53] <LjL> m0: i have a feeling that to put them into an array, you'd better use find rather than du...
[02:54] <mikm[laptop] > crass nm-applet
[02:54] <jjj> JacksLivr, : try gparted
[02:54] <luisdent> i grepped the source list... they're all demudi.agnula addresses
[02:54] <kmitch87> jjj: cups is already in ubuntu by default
[02:54] <luisdent> and where is the system help?
[02:54] <LjL> m0: if you just separate entries based on spaces, then filenames containing spaces will break it
[02:54] <jjj> kmitch87, i'm just going by what i'm reading online here... it says i have to have drv_z42, cups, and gimp-print
[02:54] <crass> mikm[laptop] : where is that?
[02:54] <m0> LjL :)
[02:54] <jjj> all of which i apparently have already... so why's it not working? :/
[02:54] <kmitch87> jjj:  try aptitude install gimp-print
[02:55] <jjj> yeah, just did, it's in there
[02:55] <kmitch87> jjj:  is it installed?
[02:55] <timalot> m0:  du -sk `find -maxdepth 1 -type d ` does exactly what u want
[02:55] <jjj> yes
[02:55] <jjj> so is cups, and the printer's set to drv_z42 which several pages say to use for the lexmark X73
[02:55] <jjj> so unless i'm missing something else or doing something wrong, i have no clue why it's not printing
[02:55] <mikm[laptop] > crass I forget which repo
[02:56] <mikm[laptop] > crass But if you do apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[02:56] <mikm[laptop] > crass nm.  Looked it up -> universe repo
[02:56] <crass> mikm[laptop] : thanks
[02:56] <kmitch87> jjj: did you add the printer? System --> Admin ---> Printing
[02:57] <jjj> yeah
[02:57] <timalot> m0: add a | tail -n +2 to the backquoted part if u dont want . included
[02:57] <jjj> i'm in there now, it's in there with the drv_z42 driver (which is recommended for it)
[02:57] <jjj> and as i've said, it scans fine
[02:57] <kmitch87> jjj: is the printer configured?
[02:57] <jjj> yeah, want all the options i have set?
[02:57] <holycow> Amaranth, *ping* :)
[02:57] <JacksLivr> jjj: thanks for responding. is gparted different that qtparted? and can i run it in kde?
[02:58] <holycow> yes it can run in kde
[02:58] <jjj> JacksLivr, yes, gparted is a different program, but i also don't think you can partition when a drive is mounted
[02:58] <Amaranth> holycow: Hey
[02:58] <jjj> so tyr the livedisc again
[02:58] <holycow> gparted and qtparted use same backend ... parted, they are just different front ends
[02:58] <holycow> hey :)
[02:58] <jjj> kmitch87, if i go to propertise, i see: Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed
[02:58] <jjj> *properties
[02:59] <jjj> and if i go to /user/lib/cups/filter in nautilus, i don't see a foomatic-rip or foomatic
[02:59] <jjj> but i do see cupsomatic
[02:59] <jjj> er, sorry, there is a foomatic-rip
[02:59] <jjj> it's a perl script of some kind
[03:00] <jjj> computer@computer-desktop:~$ foomatic-rip
[03:00] <jjj> Process dying with "No printer definition (option "-P <name>") specified!", exit stat: 9
[03:00] <jjj>         error: No such file or directory (2)
[03:00] <jjj> No printer definition (option "-P <name>") specified!
[03:01] <demio> hey
[03:01] <demio> can someone help me installing
[03:01] <demio> http://sourceforge.net/projects/k-map
[03:01] <demio> i cant run it
[03:01] <demio> it keeps asking for this file
[03:02] <demio> ./kmm: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:02] <demio> but installed those libs
[03:02] <demio> i only have a file closely named to it
[03:02] <demio> libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.6.so
[03:04] <olof_> hello :)
[03:05] <jjj> Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed  <- seems like this is the problem... i'm using a X73 Lexmark printer (on Dapper) anyone know how to fix this?\
[03:05] <kismet_> i'm trying to make a Grub Boot Floppy, and I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 off the LiveCD... "mke2fs /dev/fd0" is failing with "No such device or address while trying to dtermine filesystem size"
[03:06] <crass> is there a way to have ssh as one of the services to turn on?
[03:07] <kismet_> nevermind, i'm an idiot
[03:07] <kmasta> are there any good music subscription services that support linux?
[03:08] <jrib> ubotu: tell crass about ssh
[03:09] <HiP_P> anyone else having problems with gaim at them moment?
[03:10] <jjj> !print
[03:10] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:10] <HiP_P> !gaim
[03:10] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[03:11] <shinobi2> how do i search for a file.txt using command line?
[03:11] <HiP_P> nop? .... guess its just my luck
[03:12] <Kyral> shinobi2: locate
[03:12] <jjj> exut
[03:12] <Bassetts> what would you guys recommend for a old 166mhz 64mb laptop?
[03:12] <Bassetts> any use in it?
[03:12] <shinobi2> Kyral: what's the difference between 'locate'and 'find'?
[03:13] <achraf> salut
[03:13] <Kyral> shinobi2: locate is faster...
[03:13] <achraf> koi
[03:13] <LjL> shinobi2: well, one difference's that locate uses a pre-built database, find just looks at the filesystem.
[03:13] <Kyral> shinobi2: but locate's database is only updated nightly
[03:14] <achraf> hi
[03:14] <LjL> hello achraf. i think you only need to greet us in one language ;)
[03:14] <Wheelybin> Hello Linux chaps. I tried to run sensors-applet but the terminal window said I needed to run prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to use sensors-detect. I'm making the assumption that I need to detect sensors before I can use them!
[03:14] <shinobi2> Kyral: do you mean 'nightly' or more like 'every reboot' for people like me who turn on and off computer in about 1-2 hours of usage?
[03:15] <LjL> Wheelybin: good assumption
[03:15] <Kyral> Nightly
[03:15] <Kyral> Its in /etc/cron.daily
[03:15] <Wheelybin> Thankyou LjL!
[03:15] <Kyral> so its part of the nightly jobs that get run daily
[03:15] <LjL> Wheelybin: "sudo sensors-detect" it is, though yeah, i *have* had problems with it complaining about some /dev/ thing... try "sudo modprobe i2c-dev" if you get that
[03:16] <HiP_P> its just gaim loads up signs on to msn then closes its self
[03:17] <HiP_P> saving power bills i guess
[03:17] <Kyral> ....hahahahaha
[03:17] <VViki> how do I give myself priviliges to burn CDs??
[03:17] <Kyral> Oh jeez I actually calculated how much my CPU eats
[03:17] <shinobi2> i am at /home then run 'locate *.txt' it return results from /usr/..../ directories too.  but when i am in /home/shinobi2/test, i ran 'locate *.txt' it did not return results from /usr/.. directory
[03:17] <Kyral> its like equiv to how much it costs to power the lights in the house
[03:17] <Wheelybin> I did the sudo sensors-detect and get No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[03:18] <Zortoxon> Anyone who could tell me why both GAIM and aMSN chat windows are coming in front of every other open windows EACH time you get a new message. Please msg me :(
[03:18] <Abst> Is it possible to mask my IP in telnet?
[03:18] <HiP_P> yeah but you switch them off at night
[03:18] <Kyral> Abst: telnet is the most insecure protocol invented
[03:18] <CromagDK> heh
[03:18] <Abst> Kyral: Well is it?
[03:18] <kmu> i switched my networking to full duplex. now i can obtain an ip from the router, but i can't access the internet. how to i switch it back to automatic?
[03:18] <Kyral> Abst: YES
[03:18] <Abst> Kyral: How?
[03:19] <crass> jrib: thanks, I know well what ssh is, but I'm wondering what is the "ubuntu way" to turn on the sshd service
[03:19] <Kyral> All I know is that I am using a 450W PSU
[03:19] <HiP_P> anyways anyone had this problem with gaim?
[03:19] <Kyral> Abst: everything is sent in the clear
[03:19] <CromagDK> unencrypted, its just text.
[03:19] <Abst> Kyral: How do I change my IP then..
[03:19] <THX-1138> Oooh - give me quad cores for irc. - grin
[03:19] <Kyral> Abst: you don't :P
[03:19] <jrib> crass: install openssh-server, I thought the link had that somewhere
[03:19] <Abst> Kyral: How do I then
[03:19] <kmu> oh, i don't remember how i switched to full-duplex. someone was over my shoulder and told me what to do
[03:19] <Pierre> Kyral: you should read the study about how much energy is wasted by the little red led on your TV, and what does it bring to really switch it off. May help
[03:19] <Kyral> Abst: (This for any network communication, you can't cloak your IP)
[03:19] <LjL> !offtopic
[03:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:20] <Abst> Kyral: Why can't I change my packages
[03:20] <Wheelybin> It's best to use a PSU that's closer to one's estimated power useage. Cheaper+more efficent. I have a lovely seasonic 330w PSU in this system
[03:20] <Kyral> Abst: Huh?
[03:20] <Abst> Kyral: Change the headers of my packages
[03:20] <Daemonik> I'm using Dapper Drake when I run glxinfo Direct Rendering says Yes but right under that it says the vendor is SGI. Doom3 won't run. I followed the wiki to the letter. Is anyone else having problems with the fglrx driver?
[03:20] <Kyral> Wheelybin: its more like my PSU blew out and I ran to the computer store for a replacement and all they had was a 450W :P
[03:20] <crass> jrib: oh, I missed the link, but I didn't install that package
[03:20] <Kyral> Abst: How did we get from Telnet to packages?
[03:21] <Wheelybin> Ahh, the joys of generic blowing up PSU's
[03:21] <THX-1138> tor routing is it.- say goodbye to your ip address, fast connections to sites and all "extra" bandidth.
[03:21] <VViki> how do I give myself priviliges to burn CDs??
[03:21] <Wheelybin> That are about 60% efficent, so you pay for nearly twice as much electricity
[03:22] <CromagDK> VViki: you have that already i believe.
[03:22] <crass> jrib: yeah, the server is installed, but I don't think that means its automatically starts as a service
[03:22] <Abst> Kyral: Well, telnet has to send packages doesn't it?
[03:22] <VViki> I dont
[03:22] <jrib> crass: it should
[03:22] <Kyral> Abst: packet
[03:22] <Zortoxon> no one who knows anything about this? =/
[03:22] <VViki> k3b keepls complaining permission denied
[03:22] <CromagDK> VViki: what is the error exactly
[03:22] <Abst> Kyral: Yes, well doesn't the packet contain the IP of the original sender?
[03:22] <Kyral> Abst: and why would you want to change the headers....
[03:22] <Abst> Kyral: To mask my IP
[03:22] <crass> yeah, actually it does, bu tit doesn't appear in the services
[03:22] <Kyral> Abst: Your first problem is the fact that you are using Telnet
[03:23] <CromagDK> hah
[03:23] <CromagDK> :D
[03:23] <CromagDK> gotta go with Kyral there :)
[03:23] <Abst> Kyral: How do
[03:23] <Kyral> And messing with the IP Headers ISN'T GOOD
[03:23] <Kyral> As in you shouldn't because how else would the Network know how to route the packets?
[03:23] <Abst> Kyral: I still want to
[03:24] <jrib> crass: don't about services
[03:24] <VViki> Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
[03:24] <VViki> Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
[03:24] <VViki> Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[03:24] <VViki> : Operation not permitted
[03:24] <CromagDK> Abst: read some rfcs
[03:24] <Abst> !rfc
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rfc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <jrib> ubotu: tell VViki about paste
[03:24] <Kyral> Abst: Even if I knew how, I wouldn't tell you because then you'd be like "FECK! I'm not getting traffic! Now what!"
[03:24] <Wheelybin> Alright. Can anyone help me with my next question? I have a TV card but I dont' know it's type. Is there software that will tell me what it is without me having to open up the case and take it out?
[03:24] <crass> jrib: do you know where/who starts the deamon? (ppid is that of init, but I don't see an inittab)
[03:25] <THX-1138> lshw  lspci
[03:26] <CromagDK> http://www.rfc.net/
[03:26] <Kyral> Jeez...why does this guy wanna cloak his IP so badly
[03:26] <Zortoxon> Anyone who could tell me why both GAIM and aMSN chat windows are coming in front of every other open windows EACH time you get a new message. Please msg me :(
[03:26] <Kyral> what is he cracking a government server or something
[03:26] <CromagDK> heh
[03:26] <VViki> how do I give myself priviliges to burn CDs??
[03:26] <CromagDK> yes, using telnet
[03:26] <Kyral> lol
[03:26] <tritonx> and asking help here
[03:27] <VViki> how do I give myself priviliges to burn CDs??
[03:27] <CromagDK> dude
[03:27] <CromagDK> easy
[03:27] <Kyral> VViki: add yourself to the optical group if it exists
[03:27] <jrib> crass: your should have /etc/inittab  /etc/init.d/ssh is where the actual script is to start and control ssh.  'man update-rc.d'
[03:27] <THX-1138> Kyral - assuming he isn't a chinese or korean citizen. once you get your unpurchased mp3s. - how do you strip out the sleds and viruses
[03:27] <Daemonik> Does the fglrx driver work with Dapper?
[03:27] <Kyral> ...virii have no effect on Linux
[03:27] <THX-1138> Kyral - it's a fools errand.
[03:28] <Kyral> huh?
[03:28] <Kyral> (and whats a sled?)
[03:28] <VViki> no optical group
[03:28] <VViki> even roots cant burn CDs
[03:28] <THX-1138> lol - it's like you said. - pontless
[03:28] <Diego> Pantless!
[03:28] <Kyral> VViki: then yousa FUBAR'd
[03:28] <crass> jrib: what's weird is that I don't have an inittab
[03:29] <VViki> its not my fault
[03:29] <VViki> it's k3b fault
[03:29] <ubutom> VViki, you cold start k3b with root privileges with sudo k3b
[03:29] <Phr0stByte> beryl looks like it will be pretty sweet once it actually works....
[03:29] <jrib> crass: yes, that's strange..
[03:30] <ruzgar> hi
[03:30] <anto9us> *ding dong* This is a public announcement. A quiz is about to start in #ubuntu-trivia. Hosted by the much acclaimed theCore, your host with the most, he doesn't like to boast but we should all give him a toast, from coast to coast.... starts in 5 mins, be there or be square. *dong ding*
[03:30] <Kyral> ....wtf
[03:30] <CromagDK> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/38564
[03:30] <ruzgar> how can I save my desktop settings (for example:icons position)
[03:30] <THX-1138> anto9us lol - i'm there - zi-i-ip!
[03:31] <ruzgar> !desktop
[03:31] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[03:31] <VViki> how do I burn using terminal?????????? Go to hell k3b
[03:31] <ruzgar> I searched forum, wiki, and help but i cant find answer
[03:32] <Adam__> Hi all. I I need to run Sun's java, and I have it installed, but the "java" command points to gij. How do I make the java command use sun's java?
[03:32] <gnarlin> vviki: at root: cdrecord -vv -dev=/dev/cdrw -speed=16 -data /home/myname/someimgfile.iso
[03:33] <Phr0stByte> If you were running Gnome, as soon as you put in a blank CD, you would get a dialogue box asking what you wanted to burn "auto-magically".
[03:33] <Adam__> yes, but it doesn't offer to burn images :/
[03:34] <Phr0stByte> for iso - right click the file and choose burn to cd
[03:34] <wasabi_> Right click on the Image in nautilus.
[03:34] <wasabi_> Click Write to CD.
[03:34] <VViki> uh
[03:34] <wastrel> Adam__:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:34] <VViki> this command tries to burn the file itself as daa
[03:34] <Adam__> thanks wastrel, I'll run that
[03:34] <VViki> it doesnt mount the iso
[03:34] <Phr0stByte> it shouldnt
[03:35] <wasabi_> Oh, you're trying to mount an iso?
[03:35] <Kyral> as root
[03:35] <CromagDK> thats a BIT different
[03:35] <gnarlin> this does work
[03:35] <wasabi_> sudo mount -t isofs -o loop /the/iso.iso /mnt/path
[03:35] <Adam__> wastrel, worked perfectly! thanks
[03:35] <Kyral> mount -t loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[03:35] <VViki> mounting and burning
[03:35] <wasabi_> Kyral: -oloop, -tiso9660
[03:36] <wasabi_> or somethin. ;)
[03:36] <Kyral> ..you don't need to mount an ISO to burn it
[03:36] <Kyral> wasabi_: I agree on the -o loop, but mount does an auto when it isn't specified remember :P
[03:36] <keleus> A program in WINE misbehaved and died... and didn't let go of ALSA. now ALSA is playing the same sample repeatedly. Is there any way I can "reset" the sound system?
[03:36] <ArrenLex> Kyral: Lies!: mount: debian-31r2-i386-businesscard.iso is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[03:36] <wasabi_> keleus: Check if the program is still running in the background.
[03:36] <wasabi_> (wineserver)
[03:37] <Kyral> ArrenLex: I was wrong with the -t loop :P It should be -o loop
[03:37] <keleus> wasabi_, it was, but i killed it (and searched again) - no more wine processes
[03:37] <ArrenLex> keleus: firstly, try "wineserver -k"
[03:37] <Kyral> or you could play with FUSE and FUSEISO
[03:37] <gnarlin> keleus: sudo killall -9 wineserver
[03:37] <keleus> wine is already killed
[03:37] <wasabi_> Alsa most certainly should not do that unless an app is pushing sound.
[03:37] <ArrenLex> keleus: secondly, to reset alsa, try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload
[03:37] <keleus> keleus@epicenter:~$ pgrep wine
[03:37] <keleus> keleus@epicenter:~$
[03:38] <keleus> ArrenLex, i still hear it
[03:38] <keleus> its a short (1/10 of a second) blip repeating
[03:38] <keleus> or 1/4
[03:38] <keleus> you get the idea
[03:39] <keleus> ALSA (or at least my DSP) is still locked, nothing can use it
[03:39] <generalmozamota> Could anyone here offer some help?
[03:39] <ArrenLex> !ask
[03:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:39] <host`> ask the question and they may be able to
[03:40] <generalmozamota> Alright, well, my problem is mounting an ntfs drive
[03:40] <keleus> ArrenLex, i have a USB sound card. unplugging it won't cause oddness?
[03:40] <keleus> generalmozamota, the ubuntu wiki has it all
[03:40] <VViki> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:40] <keleus> generalmozamota, even full RW access
[03:40] <ArrenLex> keleus: I donut know. I've never a) had this problem, or b) used a usb sound card
[03:40] <VViki> still not burning
[03:40] <host`> !ntfs
[03:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:40] <keleus> !fus
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <keleus> !fuse
[03:40] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:41] <keleus> i would recommend FUSE, havent had issues myself
[03:41] <keleus> but i can only vouch for NTFS partitions created from windows XP (not 2k for instance)
[03:42] <keleus> ok how can i make the system re-scan for and re-initialize USB devices?
[03:43] <kmu> i can get an ip address and talk to the machine i'm currently using, but i can't get onto the net. both machines are plugged into the same router. what's going on?
[03:44] <keleus> kmu, did you set your default gateway?
[03:44] <OmniD> how do I disable the trash bin?
[03:44] <keleus> "route add default gw ROUTERIP" i think
[03:44] <keleus> 'man route' tells you how
[03:44] <keleus> kmu, what happens when you ping a website?
[03:45] <host`> what is "noauto" in the fstab mean?
[03:45] <kmu> keleus, ping: unkown host google.com
[03:45] <keleus> kmu "cat /etc/resolv.conf" tell you anything?
[03:46] <keleus> host`, system doesnt mount that filesystem on startup, but is in the list so a "mount /path/to/mount" will work
[03:46] <jesse__> Hey i can't seem to play the latest version of quicktime movies, though i can play older ones is there some sort of new package i need?
[03:46] <keleus> how can i make the system rescan USB? ive plugged something in 5 times now and the last thing dmesg tells me is the first disconnect
[03:47] <keleus> jesse__, probably need w32codecs, if you already have, i don't know.
[03:47] <ArrenLex> jesse: do you have w32codecs installed?
[03:47] <keleus> !restrictedformats
[03:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:47] <jesse__> keleus: i already have w32codecs
[03:47] <generalmozamota> I think I may have messed up this whole mounting thing, i tried to look for a way to do it earlier, and i edited /etc/fstab and now i just found a script that could do it, but it gave me an error of [mntent] : line 5 in /etc/fstab is bad
[03:47] <keleus> "newest version" - how new?
[03:48] <keleus> generalmozamota, ubuntu uses some kind of auto-mounter, fstab isnt the main way
[03:48] <VViki> aiusodgiuqowgr9832g9r8gqw98efg9pqwgr98gqa9wer8fg93248gq9w8fge981pgtf49fgqw9dpfg923184tg
[03:48] <keleus> generalmozamota, PM me the line
[03:48] <VViki> I've beein trying to burn ubuntu ISO for the past 2 hours
[03:49] <OmniD> how do I disable the trash bin?
[03:49] <keleus> VViki, what OS are you in right now?
[03:49] <keleus> OmniD, why?
[03:49] <OmniD> Because when I delete something I'm SERIOUS about it
[03:49] <VViki> live CD
[03:49] <HiP_P> oh nop i cant get gaim working....... ill give for tonight
[03:49] <keleus> OmniD, hold shift and press delete
[03:49] <flyinghippo> Hello.
[03:49] <flyinghippo> I have a quick question.
[03:49] <OmniD> I'd rather just cut out that process altogether if anyone knows how
[03:49] <jesse__> keleus: i don't know how new but i know i can play older quicktime ones, im trying to watch the latest episode of diggnation and i don't know what version it uses so im presuming its the latest
[03:50] <keleus> OmniD, also you can set up gnome (and kde) to give you an extra option to "delete" (no recycle bin) and/or remove the "move to recycle bin"
[03:50] <flyinghippo> Woudl the alternate install be capable of installing Ubuntu to a 2GB USB Flash Drive?
[03:50] <HiP_P> vviki you have more then one cd drive?
[03:50] <OmniD> Yeah
[03:50] <OmniD> that's why I'd like
[03:50] <VViki> yes
[03:50] <wasabi_> OmniD: right in Nautilu's preferences
[03:50] <kmu> keleus, it has a 'search' listing for work and two 'nameserver' ips whose purpose i'm unsure
[03:50] <keleus> jesse__, most likely theres some crappy HD or DRM in there.
[03:50] <HiP_P> ok just checking
[03:50] <OmniD> Not in KDE
[03:50] <wasabi_> "Include a Delete command that bypasses trash"
[03:50] <keleus> kmu, can you ping those nameservers?
[03:50] <OmniD> in Gnome wasabi_
[03:50] <keleus> OmniD, gnome can set it up
[03:50] <wasabi_> Nautilus is gnome.
[03:50] <ArrenLex> jesse: actually, can you link me to\send me one of those files?
[03:50] <OmniD> oh okay
[03:50] <OmniD> oooh yeah the file browser
[03:50] <HiP_P> night all
[03:50] <keleus> OmniD, konquerer is KDE
[03:51] <OmniD> my bad
[03:51] <generalmozamota> so uhm, yeah i'm lost
[03:51] <Zambezi> Is there any easy CD/DVD-recorder application for the console?
[03:51] <kmu> keleus, when i try to ping from the defunct box i get "network is unreachable" and no response from this working machine
[03:51] <wasabi_> Zambezi: cdrecord
[03:51] <wastrel> Zambezi:  google bashburn
[03:51] <keleus> Does anyone know how to restart the USB system? not only is the system not reading new devices by "lsusb" has gone zombie on me
[03:51] <wastrel> Zambezi:  yeah or cdrecord   - google cd writing howto
[03:51] <wastrel> bashburn prolly easier tho
[03:51] <ArrenLex> keleus: why not just... reboot?
[03:51] <keleus> kmu, can you ping the router from the defunct?
[03:52] <kmu> keleus, note that i'm using synergy between these two machines right now
[03:52] <keleus> ArrenLex, i have 15 things up right now
[03:52] <aleon> please  anyone talks spanish
[03:52] <ArrenLex> !es
[03:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:52] <keleus> kmu, not familiar with that
[03:52] <Zambezi> wasabi, wastrel Thanks.
[03:52] <keleus> kmu, i would google it but thats such a common term...
[03:52] <aleon> #kubuntu-es
[03:52] <kmu> keleus, it's used to share a keyboard and mouse between two monitors/boxes that are side by side
[03:53] <aleon> como entro
[03:53] <VViki> ive found a solution that I cannot test. Delete /dev/sg0 file. The problem is, I do not have permission to delete it
[03:53] <keleus> kmu, KVM switch?
[03:53] <wastrel> aleon:  /join #kubuntu-es
[03:53] <aleon> ok
[03:53] <jesse__> they other formats such as theora, wmv, or xvid which would be the best to download
[03:53] <keleus> jesse__, any except quicktime or Windows Media (means no .mov or .wmv)
[03:54] <keleus> jesse__, but theora if you have the choice
[03:54] <jesse__> keleus: yeah its a .ogg
[03:54] <keleus> jesse__, but those are personal prejudices :)
[03:54] <keleus> jesse__, what media player?
[03:54] <kmu> keleus, no it's more elegant. you drag you mouse to one edge of monitor 'a' and it will jump to monitor 'b'. it's really cool
[03:54] <definity_> how do i change the volume of ubuntu in terminal?
[03:54] <keleus> kmu, im not sure i like the idea of how that works... kvm will ALWAYS work :)
[03:54] <VViki> chmod asdpihasidh0oash0
[03:55] <wasabi_> definity_: alsamixer
[03:55] <baxter_kylie> Hi. I have a raid0 array set up with mdadm... how do I make sure it's available at boot?
[03:55] <kmu> keleus, good point :)
[03:55] <keleus> kmu, anyways... is your IP and subnet (netmask) set up right?
[03:55] <jesse__> keleus: just movie play
[03:55] <jesse__> er
[03:55] <keleus> jesse__, can i get the full (non-gnomized) name?
[03:55] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: Available at boot in what fashion? mdadm should contain an init script that runs mdrun.
[03:55] <jesse__> keleus: totem movie player
[03:56] <jesse__> keleus: gstreamer
[03:56] <keleus> jesse__, dunno what that can handle, i use mplayer and vlc
[03:56] <kmu> keleus, i don't know ._.
[03:56] <keleus> kmu, "ifconfig"
[03:56] <raghu206> can  we install xp over linux as dual boot if cant why so?
[03:56] <keleus> netmask should be the same on both machines
[03:56] <flannel> raghu206: yes, you just need to reinstall grub afterwards
[03:56] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: I mean that it automounts... do I have to include a mknod script in init?
[03:56] <keleus> the IP address should be very similar
[03:56] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: Put it in fstab.
[03:56] <keleus> kmu, is this ethernet? (cat5 cables)
[03:57] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: mknod has little to do with mounting.
[03:57] <kmu> yes
[03:57] <keleus> kmu, your probably looking for "eth0"
[03:57] <kmu> keleus, mask is the same
[03:57] <raghu206> flannel, i think the grub will be undercontrol of linux
[03:57] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: I know how to include in fstab but it has to take more than that. somehow the node has be created and the array defined on a boot.
[03:57] <kmu> kelesu, right
[03:57] <keleus> kmu, ok, and ip is almost the same?
[03:57] <kmu> right
[03:57] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: udev does that.
[03:57] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: along with mdrun
[03:57] <flannel> raghu206: XP will overwrite grub, you'll need to reinstall it, and then you'll switch at the grub prompt
[03:58] <flannel> !tell raghu206 about dualboot
[03:58] <flannel> !tell raghu206 about grub
[03:58] <VViki> chmod +w /dev/sg0 permission denied
[03:58] <wasabi_> mdrun auto detects and assembles the md devices, the kernel lets userspace know, udev makes a node.
[03:58] <VViki> how in hell permission denied?!?!
[03:58] <wasabi_> mdrun actually might create the nodes on it's own too
[03:58] <VViki> im super user
[03:58] <keleus> the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf should be the same on both machines. If not, use an editor and set the broken box's nameservers (and search actually) to the ones on the working box
[03:58] <flannel> raghu206: first one contains general dualboot info, second has a link talking about restoring grub
[03:58] <ArrenLex> VViki: that's not a file, it's a device node.
[03:58] <keleus> VViki, thats kernel space.
[03:58] <wasabi_> VViki: What the hell are you trying to do?
[03:58] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: so I don't even have to maek mdadm.conf?
[03:58] <kmu> keleus, ok
[03:58] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: Shouldn't.
[03:58] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: mdrun basically scans every existing block device for md metadata at the end.
[03:59] <baxter_kylie> Hmm.
[03:59] <VViki> i read that deleting sg0 should allow me to burn cds
[03:59] <wasabi_> VViki: Explain again why cdrecord doesn't work?
[03:59] <wasabi_> Or Nautilus?
[03:59] <aleon> please  help me         why not read a memory flash  ubuntu
[03:59] <keleus> kmu, also, try "route" on both. they should be almost exactly the same (and probably should be). let me know if they are not.
[03:59] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: Okay. We'll see. I'll be miserable if I have to rebuild this 440gb array. ;-)
[04:00] <VViki> i dont have permission to burn CDs, the error message is "operation not permitted"
[04:00] <wasabi_> VViki: Sudo?
[04:00] <VViki> sudo gives me another error
[04:00] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: Nothing compared to my 4TB array.
[04:01] <VViki> SCISI blablabla
[04:01] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: I use EVMS though.
[04:01] <keleus> VViki, "ls -Llah /dev/sg0" tells you waht for owner and group?
[04:01] <flannel> VViki: you need to be in the cdrom group
[04:01] <wasabi_> If he's using sudo, that's not hte issue.
[04:01] <VViki> I am
[04:01] <VViki> I am in the cdrom group
[04:01] <wasabi_> VViki: Paste cdrecords error on pastebin
[04:01] <VViki> or am I not?
[04:01] <keleus> VViki, just a curiousity... why sg0? what kind of drive? (ATA, SATA, etc)
[04:01] <flannel> VViki: type 'groups' and see
[04:02] <wasabi_> Too many cooks.
[04:02] <keleus> kmu, you get that last message?
[04:02] <VViki> cdrom adm dialout floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[04:02] <kmu> keleus, that did it. i changed /etc/resolv.conf to match the working copy. then i tried to "ifconfig eth0 down" then brought it back up, but that didn't work. so then i used ubuntu's connection properties wizard to disable/enable eth0, then it worked
[04:03] <keleus> is there a way to kill a process with status "D"?
[04:03] <keleus> kmu, when it didnt work, what was the message?
[04:03] <kmu> keleus, connect: Network is unreachable
[04:03] <keleus> kmu, you needed to add default gateway. the wizard did that for you
[04:04] <kmu> ahh
[04:04] <keleus> kmu, "route add default gw 192.168.1.1" would have done it, subsituting your router IP address
[04:04] <kmu> keleus, cool. i see it also modified resolv.conf
[04:05] <keleus> kmu, that adds a route to "default" using the gateway of 192.168.1.1
[04:05] <keleus> kmu, just type "route" to see what i mean
[04:05] <keleus> kmu, what change?
[04:06] <kmu> keleus, it took my work subnet entry (right word?) from the 'search' list
[04:06] <baxter_kylie> Can someone please instruct me as to how to get my raid partition recognized /  mounted at boot
[04:07] <keleus> kmu, not entirely sure what the point of "search" is on a home network. I always delete it and it works fine :D
[04:07] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: Thought I just did that, heh.
[04:07] <keleus> kmu, but then I use IPs and not hostnames :D the rare exceptions usually go in /etc/hosts 'cause my router is riding the short bus
[04:07] <J-_> while in webmin, it states apache2: wildcard patterns not allowed in Include /ect/apache2/mods-enabled/*.loadfile:usr/share/ubuntu-art/home/index.html ...fail!     what should i do?
[04:08] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: just restarted. no md devices.
[04:08] <sureshot> hey all there is a strange qustion if it is not for here then tell me ware to find it but how do i locate xtrs that i downloaded of the repos
[04:08] <ArrenLex> What are xtrs?
[04:08] <kmu> keleus, :) thanks for your help!
[04:08] <sureshot> it is the trs80 emulater
[04:08] <keleus> kmu, any time!
[04:08] <rummik> i can't seem to get a screen rez larger than 640x480, any idea how to fix this?
[04:09] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: Run "mdrun", see if they appear. If so, then go figure out why that's not running.
[04:09] <sureshot> Arrenlex xtrs = trs80 emulater for linux
[04:09] <ArrenLex> sureshot: "dpkg -L <package>" lists all the files in a package.
[04:09] <sureshot> ArrenLex thanks again my friend
[04:09] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: mdrun is run by the "mdadm" package. You can see it's state by running dpkg-reconfigure mdadm
[04:09] <sureshot> you all on here are gook people
[04:10] <sureshot> stupid me LOLO i am on a lot of pain meds sorry i mean good people
[04:10] <Silver_Seagull> Need some help with the AMD64 disc- the Xserver won't start- I think it's trying to use refresh rates way too high for my Samsung 940BW
[04:10] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: mdrun does work but the manual says its depreciated in favor of mdadm.conf. maybe it was taken out of edgy beta for this reason?
[04:10] <sureshot> ArrenLex stupid me LOLO i am on a lot of pain meds sorry i mean good people
[04:10] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: Hmm. Really? Let me check.
[04:10] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: Do run the dpkg-reconfigure mdadm command
[04:10] <Samuli^> sureshot, good to hear. Are the medicine to keep brain from freezing?
[04:11] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: Heh. Maybe you're right. If that's the case, just stick the md devices in mdadm.conf like you suggested.
[04:11] <glitch> There is a problem with newer kernels that makes Linux fail to load due to a bug that is ignored and bypassed in older kernels on IBM X-Series eServers. What can I do to help solve this problem, other than change code myself?
[04:12] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: oh now this is interesting. your dpkg actually creates its own mdadm.conf
[04:12] <sureshot> AerrenLex no just to tell my brian that the 4 herneated disks in my back for hearting and and amoung other things i am medically retired
[04:12] <Drac|Server> Where can I go to report this kind of problem?
[04:12] <wasabi_> glitch, Are you asking what you can do to fix it for youself, or how you can fix it upstream?
[04:12] <keleus> Drac|Server, you could submit a bug report (kernel.org i think)
[04:12] <sureshot> for=from
[04:12] <Drac|Server> Okay. Thanks.
[04:12] <wasabi_> baxter_kylie: Oh. That's neat.
[04:12] <Orbit45244> can anyone here help me with rsync?
[04:12] <keleus> off to reboot-land :)
[04:13] <Orbit45244> I need to know how to put wildcards in the reciever's path
[04:13] <rummik> at one point i was able to get a screen rez of 1024x768, when i used a different dist, why do i get a rez of 640x480 here?
[04:13] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: indeed except that it's not a particularly complete mdadm.conf
[04:14] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: I don't know what/how-to-find the UUID of these devices
[04:14] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: so I can't make it complete
[04:15] <Zeenux> can I install Ubuntu/Kubuntu onto an external drive, and use that drive to boot into ubuntu whenever?
[04:15] <ArrenLex> rummik: 'cause it's not set up properly?
[04:15] <wasabi_> Zeenux: You can.
[04:15] <rummik> ArrenLex: yeah, i figured that one out :P
[04:16] <Silver_Seagull> Need some help with the AMD64 disc- the Xserver won't start- it detects my ATi and the correct LCD monitor.  Any ideas?
[04:17] <Zeenux> wasabi, how?
[04:17] <ZeeGeek> my x-terminal-emulator alternative now links to urxvt. when I run it with command urxvt, it's transparent. however if I run it with x-terminal-emulator, the background is white.
[04:17] <rummik> ArrenLex: seriously though, i altered my xorg.conf and changed it so 640x480 wasn't in the config for a possible screen rez, but i still get this rez...
[04:18] <CorpseFeeder> Hi! Can anyone help me with making video capture card work?
[04:18] <voltz> my update fails trying to fetch from an au server,what do I need to edit to make system try get packages from elsewhere
[04:19] <Ademan> is there any reason to use remote desktop when you can tunnel X through ssh?
[04:19] <ArrenLex> voltz: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change the lines to say something like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ whatever" instead of the au sever
[04:19] <k3b_Sucks> k3b sucks
[04:19] <ArrenLex> server
[04:19] <ArrenLex> k3b is life >=|
[04:20] <k3b_Sucks>  it has a bug
[04:20] <ArrenLex> *horror*
[04:20] <ArrenLex> SOFTWARE WITH A BUG?! Unprecedented!
[04:20] <Kyral> lol
[04:20] <k3b_Sucks> k3b doesnt allow admins, super admins or roots to burn CDs
[04:20] <Drac|Server> I need to get an old 2.6.12-9-686-smp kernel image for my eServer because the 2.6.14 kernels don't boot due to a bug. Could somebody link me to the Breezy repositories so that I can download the package?
[04:20] <kitche> Ademan: X tunneling doesn't show the whole desktop just one program
[04:20] <ArrenLex> k3b: why would they want to?
[04:20] <m0> what is the best way to find out if each directory in a directory has a file
[04:21] <k3b_Sucks> it doesnt matter, no user, no group has permission to burn CDs
[04:21] <wastrel> !packages
[04:21] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:21] <m0> i have DIR1, DIR2, DIR3, and I want to check if each folder has index.html
[04:21] <k3b_Sucks> is it possible burn CDs in DOS?
[04:21] <Drac|Server> Thanks.
[04:21] <Kyral> ..who the hell uses DOS nowadays
[04:21] <Ademan> kitche: right but that's all you need really isnt it?
[04:21] <ArrenLex> k3b_sucks: I believe k3bsetup takes care of that. It's in the settings menu.
[04:21] <m0> index.html or [index]  folder
[04:21] <k3b_Sucks> k3bsetup is blank
[04:21] <keitheis> how can i get selection list of dpkg-reconfigure locales? i've tried for hours
[04:21] <k3b_Sucks> nothing to seupt
[04:22] <k3b_Sucks> k3bsetup opens a blank window
[04:22] <m0> i have DIR1, DIR2, DIR3, and I want to check if each folder has index.html file or [index]  folder
[04:22] <ArrenLex> k3b: that's a bug. You must be using an old version.
[04:22] <rummik> k3b_Sucks: what is this k3b you speak of? where i come from we use dd to burn cds...
[04:22] <k3b_Sucks> ubuntu 5.1
[04:22] <wasabi_> Add yourself to the cdrom group.
[04:22] <wasabi_> And that's it.
[04:23] <k3b_Sucks> I am already in that group
[04:23] <wasabi_> Then check why you can't burn.
[04:23] <ArrenLex> k3b; why don't you upgrade ubuntu?
[04:23] <wasabi_> Try cdrecord, see if it has heartburn.
[04:23] <wasabi_> If so, report a meaningful bug.
[04:24] <k3b_Sucks> what about installing a windows burner and windows emulator????
[04:24] <wasabi_> A windows emulator will not likely let you burn.
[04:24] <wasabi_> As burning requires lower level access to the drive than any emulator would grant.
[04:24] <ArrenLex> wasabi: that's actually not true. wine with nero will let you burn. Maybe.
[04:24] <wasabi_> Who knows. Maybe vmware fixed that.
[04:24] <wasabi_> Will it?
[04:24] <wasabi_> Also, wine is not an emulator. ;)
[04:24] <ArrenLex> wasabi: depends on your system. Wine can access devices directly, though.
[04:25] <ArrenLex> wasabi: wine is an emulator =P just not a processor emulator.
[04:25] <ArrenLex> wine is an API emulator.
[04:25] <wasabi_> Yeah I know.
[04:25] <rummik> hmm...this is strange
[04:25] <wasabi_> Yeah, looks like you're right. Nero should work.
[04:25] <wasabi_> Neato. ;)
[04:25] <shriphani> gr8 i wrote my 1st prog in c
[04:25] <wasabi_> Oh wow. Nero releases a REAL linux version too
[04:26] <rummik> why is it that /i/ get the dns issues? ;P
[04:26] <ArrenLex> shriphani: I suggest you learn english before learning c.
[04:26] <wasabi_> http://www.nero.com/eng/NeroLINUX.html
[04:26] <shriphani> wasabi, there is summat called nero linux
[04:26] <shriphani> ArrenLex, oh
[04:26] <Drac|Server> Whoa... why is this kernel image taking an AGE to download? Have Breezy repositories had their bandwidth cut off or something?
[04:26] <ArrenLex> wasabi: yes it does. It's almost laughably simple, though. It can't do anything except burn a data cd from files in a folder.
[04:26] <rummik> anyone know of a good place to get dns?
[04:27] <rummik> i'd like to update some packages..but dns broke..again
[04:27] <shriphani> dns is the nameserver.... correct me if i am wrong ?
[04:27] <flyinghippo> I believe o.
[04:27] <flyinghippo> *so
[04:28] <shriphani> and you want a nameserver ?
[04:28] <rummik> no, just the ip of one, dns broke on my end...
[04:28] <shriphani> rummik, your isp should have given you one
[04:28] <shriphani> or he has a DHCP server
[04:29] <rummik> shriphani: well, the dsl modem is half busted...so i'd say that is my broken link...so to speak
[04:29] <shriphani> heh
[04:30] <rummik> it keeps saying that security.ubuntu.com has an ip of 1.0.0.0
[04:30] <rummik> among other sites...
[04:31] <OmniD> Okay I have a problem with my external drive
[04:31] <OmniD> All of a sudden it sometimes goes into unwritable mode
[04:31] <OmniD> As in I can't copy things over to it for just no reason
[04:32] <OmniD> In fact something is still copying over to it just fine but anything else I add it says I cannot
[04:32] <OmniD> it has plenty of space though
[04:32] <Diego> Question. I have a ton of music currently stored somewhere. I'm using this WinXP partition that I just installed. I plan to install Ubuntu later today, make its partitions etc.
[04:32] <Diego> Where should the music be?
[04:32] <Diego> In the Win partition or in the /home partition? Will one be accessible to the other?
[04:32] <shriphani> Diego, if its on your windows partition it should be accessible in linux
[04:33] <shriphani> the other way round aint possible
[04:33] <mnepton> shriphani: yes it is
[04:33] <mnepton> there is an ext3 driver for XP that is of pretty good quality. and personally, i'd rather have my data relying on ext3 than ntfs
[04:34] <mnepton> http://fs-driver.org
[04:34] <shriphani> yes you need to install ext3 drivers named umm ext2fs
[04:34] <Drac|Server> Should an Audigy 2 card work automatically with the provided emu10k1 driver, or do I need to get a newer one via CVS?
[04:34] <definity_> when i go n youtube the audio start to lag on a 2 second delay can anyone help?
[04:34] <mnepton> definity_: Macrodobe can when they fix the Flash player for Linux ;)
[04:35] <Drac|Server> definity_, youtube uses flash, which, unfortunately, is of poor quality on Linux. This isn't a Linux problem. It's an Adobe problem. :(
[04:35] <CorpseFeeder> my connection dropped.
[04:35] <definity_> hmm damm oh well
[04:35] <definity_> thanks anyway
[04:35] <CorpseFeeder> can anyone help with video capture card?
[04:35] <Drac|Server> definity_, I find that if you seek just right it's okay for a little bit.
[04:35] <mnepton> they claim the soon-to-be-released Flash player 9 for i386 is much better
[04:35] <ArrenLex> definity: try this: go to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and change the line to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss". Make sure you have alsa-oss installed.
[04:35] <Diego> Well, the better question is, assuming I want to use P2P and torrent for getting more music, will I be able to have all the music in one place? i.e. download a torrent in Ubuntu and store it in the same place that LimeWire downloads go or something.
[04:36] <shriphani> Diego, sure
[04:36] <Drac|Server> Anyone regarding my Audigy 2?
[04:36] <Diego> Excellent. Thanks.
[04:36] <rcmiv> top
[04:37] <rcmiv> oops, wrong keyboard
[04:37] <rcmiv> heh
[04:39] <CorpseFeeder> i need help with using DC10+ video capture card. Can anyone help me?
[04:40] <CorpseFeeder> Also I need help with mic volume settings... it seems to be stuck on 0% volume and I can't change it.
[04:41] <Nox2k3> Hey does anyone know what would case the /dev/dri/ device nodes to not appear? lsmod claims the modules are loaded and dmesg claims it loaded, or found my card?
[04:41] <Nox2k3> i've got one of those ATI Radeon Xpresses
[04:42] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: you can have mine; I don't need it =P
[04:42] <Nox2k3> heh
[04:42] <Nox2k3> if only
[04:42] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: are you using the correct driver? Do you have the dri extension loaded?
[04:42] <Nox2k3> in X? X is complaining about not finding the device node.
[04:43] <Nox2k3> or not being able to open it rather
[04:43] <ArrenLex> Okay. What driver? Do you have the dri extension?
[04:43] <ArrenLex> Pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[04:43] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
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[04:44] <Nox2k3> Mind if I pastebin that, along with lsmod, the X log, and the kernel boot log?
[04:44] <ArrenLex> Go ahead.
[04:48] <Nox2k3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26827/
[04:48] <Nox2k3> i also added lspci in there
[04:48] <CorpseFeeder> I can't change my mic volume. It's stuck on 0%. look here - this is what I see - http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/BlackDalek/Screenshot.png
[04:49] <ArrenLex> Corpse: what if you click on the speaker with an x through it?
[04:50] <kromel> Hello. Umm, I tried updating one of my PC's to Edgy from Dapper.  Didn't go to well. While trying to run in recovery mode, it loads up, then I finally get to the prompt.  It acts like my keyboard isn't plugged in.
[04:50] <CorpseFeeder> isn't the speaker for output? And therefore supposed to have an X through it? I can move the volume slider up, but the setting is not saved and reverts back to 0%
[04:51] <simtower> anyone know of any faqs for getting dapper to hibernate properly?
[04:51] <ArrenLex> kromel: you mean, dapper to edgy?
[04:51] <kromel> ArrenLex, yes.
[04:51] <CorpseFeeder> OK, i removed the X from the speaker under mic and it still reverts to 0% volume
[04:51] <Nox2k3> oh wait, apparently I don't currently have drm loaded, I rebooted recently and haven't yet tried loading it
[04:52] <wastrel> drm
[04:52] <CorpseFeeder> It's as though I don't have permissions to change the volume on the mic.. how do I fix this?
[04:52] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: what are you trying to achieve? Rendering acceleration?
[04:52] <Nox2k3> yes
[04:52] <Nox2k3> and being able to sleep my laptop
[04:53] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: you're not getting 3D acceleration with that driver.
[04:53] <kromel> I don't mind reinstalling Ubuntu, but I have some files I would really like to recover.  Stupid me forgot to backup those files.
[04:53] <Nox2k3> i was under the impression that the opensource driver provides accelleration?
[04:53] <Nox2k3> acceleration*
[04:53] <ArrenLex> 1018. (**) RADEON(0): Initializing Acceleration
[04:53] <ArrenLex> 1019. (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration unsupported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer.
[04:53] <ArrenLex> 1020. (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled
[04:53] <ArrenLex> Not to your card.
[04:53] <Nox2k3> interesting, I must have misread then
[04:54] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: the open source radeon driver DOES provide 3D acceleration to old ATI radeon cards. Not newer ones.
[04:55] <Paul928> Help! can't update . I get a error message. " Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[04:55] <ubuntu> im gonna destroy my live CD right after burn the new version
[04:55] <ubuntu> damn
[04:55] <ubuntu> it crashed again
[04:55] <Nox2k3> well then
[04:55] <host`> it's trying to connect to your loopback address
[04:55] <Nox2k3> do you know if its yet possible to convince the fglrx driver to sleep properly?
[04:55] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: I can't even convince the fglrx driver to use xv properly. =P
[04:56] <Paul928> host_I know. do you know how to fix it?
[04:56] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: I always recommend nvidia for Linux if you need 3d accel.
[04:56] <Nox2k3> so do I
[04:56] <Nox2k3> but I don't have that option on cheap laptops
[04:56] <Nox2k3> or didn't when I purchased this thing
[04:56] <ArrenLex> If you bought a cheap laptop you should have been properly cheap and bought yourself an intel integrated.
[04:56] <ArrenLex> GPL drivers.
[04:57] <Nox2k3> intel integrated accel is crap though
[04:57] <justin420> hi. i am trying to install linux, and it appears that the install likes to stall at 88% done, while setting up the clock. there are no partitions currently on the drive other than what was made by the install program.  i have checked the disc for errors, and it says its fine. anybody have any ideas?
[04:57] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: is it worse than what acceleration you have now? =P
[04:57] <whyso> hi, i made the ubuntu CD, but when i am at the first menu and i hit instal/start or check CD for errors it jsut says "loading" forever, any tips?
[04:57] <Nox2k3> and this one had one of them mail in rebate deals for a lots of dollars
[04:57] <Paul928> Does anyone know howq to modify the connection settings for update?
[04:58] <k3b_sucks> asdhopiahfopih30hw098hn9w8h8 9t89w2t2wtw34t 43aw t4a3 t43a t3a4t
[04:58] <Nox2k3> Curiously though, I've never had a problem with fglrx and xv, until I decided to use XGL, then it was hilarious.
[04:59] <CorpseFeeder> volume control mixer is bollocks.. it don't do nothing. what a pile...
[04:59] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: I think the ATI people just close their eyes and type into emacs, and if it compiles they ship it as a Linux driver.
[04:59] <whyso>  hi, i made the ubuntu CD, but when i am at the first menu and i hit instal/start or check CD for errors it jsut says "loading" forever, any tips?
[04:59] <m0> i have DIR1, DIR2, DIR3, and I want to check if each folder has index.html file or [index]  folder
[05:00] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: I can't use mplayer, because whenever it accesses xv or x11 my screen goes black for two seconds.
[05:00] <ArrenLex> m0: you could probably write a simple script to do that, lacking any smarter way...
[05:00] <m0> how would I do that?
[05:00] <m0> but how would i distinguish between a folder and a file
[05:00] <host`> what's the best dvd player for linux?
[05:00] <Nox2k3> ArrenLex: Yes I think that accurately describes the ATI development process. Though I would think they would use notepad.exe.
[05:01] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: yeah, probably.
[05:01] <andresmujica> hi!
[05:01] <ArrenLex> !hi
[05:01] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:01] <andresmujica> i've got a problem after upgrading to kde 3.5.5
[05:01] <wastrel> m0:  the file test operators can distinguish folders and files.
[05:01] <andresmujica> kicker fails at start...
[05:01] <andresmujica> :(
[05:01] <wastrel> m0:  basic bash scripting.  perl can also...
[05:01] <whyso> could anyone help me?
[05:01] <Girasquid> Does anyone know how I could get Ubuntu(Live CD) to mount and be able to read/write to my Mac hard drive?
[05:02] <andresmujica> anyone knows if something went broke with kde 3.5.5
[05:02] <ArrenLex> m0: if [ -d "foobar" ]  ; then #folder ; else #file ; fi
[05:02] <m0> wastrel: i can't find it here http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html
[05:02] <CorpseFeeder> this sucks. why can't i make this mic work? I get no input at all in Sound Recorder
[05:03] <kmu> whyso, i had a similar problem trying to install ubuntu on a raid system. fedora would install fine!
[05:03] <CorpseFeeder> it just records silence
[05:03] <wastrel> m0:  it's in the advanced bash scripting guide.
[05:03] <whyso> yeah im using raid 0
[05:03] <m0> can you give me a link pelase
[05:03] <whyso> but i just want to use the live CD for now
[05:03] <m0> In bash i thought we don't have to place ;
[05:03] <m0> what does ; really mean?
[05:03] <m0> ArrenLex: placed ;
[05:04] <kmu> whyso, that's probably it
[05:04] <whyso> ah ok thanks, is there any way to get around that
[05:04] <SuperMiguel> what can you do with an ubuntu server?
[05:04] <wastrel> m0: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/fto.html
[05:04] <kmu> whyso, i gave up on the problem :(
[05:04] <simtower> anyone know of any faqs for getting dapper to hibernate properly?
[05:05] <ArrenLex> m0: well, those are comments. You would put whatever you want to happen if it's a file instead of #file
[05:05] <m0> wastrel: thankyou
[05:05] <whyso> oh :( :( so you reccomend just going for fedora?
[05:05] <kmu> whyso, might want to try a different distro's live cd. or if you're just wanting to check it out, you could run it in vmware
[05:05] <m0> ArrenLex: I just want it to return true or false
[05:05] <m0> if its a file, return tru
[05:05] <kmu> whyso, it meaning ubuntu
[05:05] <m0> else return false
[05:06] <ArrenLex> m0: the string true? Or a boolan?
[05:06] <m0> boolean
[05:06] <docmur> hello all
[05:06] <kmu> whyso, also you should check the online boards. it wasn't my computer, so i didn't care too much
[05:06] <ArrenLex> m0: "return" can only return numerical values -- will "1" and "0" satisfy you?
[05:06] <docmur> does anyone know of a GAL programmer for linux
[05:06] <whyso> i want to just use the live CD to repartitian, so i can install it on the HD afterwards
[05:06] <VViki> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[05:06] <VViki> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[05:06] <ArrenLex> m0: if [ -d "foobar" ]  ; then return 1 ; else return 0 ; fi
[05:07] <whyso> k appreciated! if anyone else has tips on getting it to work on a raid 0 system plz message me
[05:07] <ArrenLex> m0: that'll only work in a function, actually.
[05:08] <ArrenLex> m0: quit values? exit 0 and exit 1. Else you'll have to use strings.
[05:08] <ArrenLex> m0: would be easier if you told me what you wanted to do with it.
[05:08] <m0> ArrenLex: I am using methods
[05:08] <ArrenLex> m0: functions?
[05:08] <simtower> anyone know where errors from hibernation are logged to?
[05:08] <simtower> in ubuntu dapper 6.06?
[05:08] <ArrenLex> simtower: check dmesg?
[05:08] <simtower> nothing there =(
[05:08] <ArrenLex> simtower: failing that, /var/log/kern.log?
[05:09] <m0> ArrenLex: this is what I want to do, I have a bunch of Folders, and I want to search each folder and see if it contains a file named "something" (at its last path)
[05:09] <simtower> thanks ArrenLex, ill check it out
[05:09] <ArrenLex> m0: why not just "find <folder> -name "something">
[05:09] <m0> ArrenLex: hmm
[05:09] <VViki> whats the cdrecord command to burn bootable isos??
[05:10] <m0> Say I have FOLDER1, and in FOLDER1 there is two folders FOLDER1A and FOLDER1B, I want to check if FOLDER1 has index.html in both FOLDER1A and FOLDER1B
[05:10] <m0> Every subfolder should have index.html
[05:10] <ArrenLex> m0: and what happens if they don't?
[05:11] <m0> ArrenLex: I would disgard that initial FOLDER1
[05:11] <m0> and move to FOLDER2
[05:11] <m0> and do the same tecniques as FOLDER1
[05:11] <simtower> ArrenLex, any other ideas where failure messages from hibernation might be logged?
[05:11] <ArrenLex> m0: and if an index.html exists?
[05:11] <ArrenLex> simtower: nope.
[05:11] <rcmiv> go blue
[05:11] <t-k-fu> i'm running dapper with kernel 2.6.15-27-k7, and I want to install AIGLX, but I need linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-k7, which doesn't appear to exist yet.  is there a way to compile that myself?  if so, where would i find the sources?
[05:11] <m0> if they have index.html in every subolder, then I move that folder to my /home/m0/publish/web/
[05:12] <ArrenLex> Ohhh. That's different.
[05:12] <ArrenLex> m0: how automatic do you need this to be? Like, on your whole filesystem? Or on a specific folder?
[05:13] <m0> specific folder
[05:13] <CorpseFeeder> how do I make a mic work?
[05:13] <m0> ArrenLex: i know the algorithm on how to do it, but i am new to bash
[05:14] <ArrenLex> m0: what's your algorithm?
[05:14] <Samuli^> algorytmi.
[05:14] <Samuli^> ?
[05:15] <m0> hmm, I would need to do a recursive call. So initially, I count the number of directories in the first directory, if there are 2 directories, I recall that algorithm
[05:15] <inz1> can anyone help installing nvidia drivers for a quadro fx? it get messages telling me to update the md5sum, so i run the line and my card gets changed to an ATI card
[05:15] <logankoester> I just installed an application in /usr/share and I want to create a link to it from /usr/bin, but it won't run because it is executing in the wrong directory. What would you guys do?
[05:16] <ArrenLex> inz1: how are you trying to install them?
[05:16] <m0> Once I see the index.html, I compare it to the num of folders  I counted at the begining, if the num = numfound I exit the recursive call by calling the executiing method publish()
[05:16] <CorpseFeeder> how do I make video capture card work?
[05:16] <ArrenLex> logankoester: I would make a simple shell script. /usr/share/application $@
[05:16] <SuperMiguel> i haven an old p3 there is any way that i can use it in a valuable way?
[05:17] <ArrenLex> Miguel: you could make a server.
[05:17] <logankoester> ArrenLex: what does $@ do?
[05:17] <inz1> ArrenLex: i ran the  nvidia-glx-config enable line as suggested in the install notes in synaptic
[05:17] <johnniewalker> lol every 10 lines of text there's a NOT a question.
[05:17] <ArrenLex> logan: "all arguments given to this script"
[05:17] <SuperMiguel> ArrenLex: what can i do which a server? web pages what else?
[05:17] <logankoester> oh cool!
[05:17] <logankoester> I didn't know you could do that
[05:17] <ArrenLex> i.e. for a script invoked as "sh foobar sith hi", $@ = "sith hi"
[05:17] <logankoester> that's awesome
[05:17] <m0> if [ -d $directory ]   should directory be a path?
[05:18] <ArrenLex> Yes.
[05:18] <johnniewalker> hey, does anyone else here have an intel extreme graphics 2 chip?
[05:18] <ArrenLex> m0: I think what they're going after is $directory is a variable that contains a path. But you could also use a literal.
[05:18] <SuperMiguel> ArrenLex: what can i do which a server? web pages what else?
[05:18] <docmur> does anyone know of a GAL programmer for linux
[05:19] <VViki> 43209y98awey98yaer9y9dsagy98dfsagy9834ya9t8y3watp8ew94pt9aewrytpaeysrg 9pryeas9 g8yrase9 gare9s8 gy98aeryy8 g89yaw89 gh3n89aw3 w34y 943wy 943y93w4 hhhhhh3'03T  34W Y3 Y
[05:19] <docmur> GAL (generic array logic)
[05:19] <m0> ArrenLex: say I have a function that is called : CheckIfDirectory() { }
[05:19] <CorpseFeeder> I agree
[05:19] <ArrenLex> SUperMiguel: whatever you want.
[05:19] <logankoester> how does one destroy a link?
[05:19] <m0> can I do this: if [[ CheckIfDirectory $1 == "TRUE" ] ] ; then
[05:19] <m0> if [[ CheckIfDirectory $1 == "TRUE" ] ] ; then that returns "TRUE"
[05:19] <SuperMiguel> ArrenLex: like?
[05:20] <ArrenLex> m0: use return values. At the end of CheckIfDirectory, use "return 1" or "return 0" or whatever you want, and use those values.
[05:20] <m0> i meant  CheckIfDirectory function returns "TRUE"
[05:20] <m0> can i use a function inside an IF Statement?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> m0,  i belive so.. check that advance bash scripting guide.. pretty sure they got examples of that.
[05:21] <ArrenLex> m0: Hold on, let me check that.
[05:21] <m0> the advanced scripting guide is really advanced
[05:22] <CorpseFeeder> so... any more ideas on why my mic won't work?
[05:22] <m0> i don't understand what they mean by this: for directory in $directorys; do
[05:22] <ArrenLex> m0: yes.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> m0,  time to learn some basic bash then i think..
[05:22] <m0> when you for a path, what do you get?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> m0,  those are example/variables
[05:22] <ArrenLex> m0: PM me. I want to paste things and I think I can explain better.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> for X in $arrayofX
[05:23] <m0> hmm how do I message people in irssi
[05:23] <m0> lol
[05:23] <ArrenLex> m0: oh, nevermind; you're not identified.
[05:23] <m0> one sec
[05:23] <ArrenLex> m0: yes, what you want to do will work (functions). Look at this: http://arrenlex.diff.be/check
[05:23] <host`> ArrenLex, you pastebin
[05:23] <host`> use
[05:24] <`m0> am I identified?
[05:24] <ArrenLex> host: why?
[05:24] <host`> oh
[05:24] <`m0> ArrenLex: ah yea, thats how I will do it
[05:25] <ArrenLex> m0: get it?
[05:25] <ArrenLex> What I pasted will return no.
[05:25] <`m0> ArrenLex: but return 1 wll be like a solid true ?
[05:25] <ArrenLex> return 1 is false. Think of these as exit codes.
[05:25] <ArrenLex> exitcode 0 is success.
[05:25] <ArrenLex> exitcode 1 is failure.
[05:26] <`m0> is there a page, that has all the types ?
[05:26] <suff0kate> how do i use philips mp3 player on ubuntu?
[05:26] <ArrenLex> m0: all the types of what?
[05:26] <`m0> I could just skim it through and udnerstand the way bash works.
[05:26] <`m0> like what each literal means
[05:26] <davidrenton> hey there
[05:27] <ArrenLex> m0: bash is not typed. There is no concept of a number or boolean or object or anything.
[05:27] <inz1> can anyone help with nvidia drivers? after running ' nvidia-glx-config enable' i get a message telling me to update the md5sum, so i run the line and my card gets changed to an ATI card in xorg.conf
[05:27] <davidrenton> how do i get an updated package that is in edgy back into dapper?
[05:27] <ArrenLex> m0: you can do anything you want with the return values. If you want, say 1 is true and then you would use if [ "$?" = 1" ]  ; then success
[05:27] <newworldorder> inz1 yeah.  get openSUSE.
[05:28] <ArrenLex> davidrenton: apt-get install --reinstall -t dapper <package>
[05:28] <`m0> ArrenLex: I meant literal, that I would know what [[ ] ]  means and etc, I don't need to learn how to code. I just need to know how bash is structed quickly :)
[05:28] <ArrenLex> davidrenton: actually, you don't even need that reinstall.
[05:28] <inz1> newworldorder: great, thanks...
[05:28] <love> ubuntu isn't for newer users or complex things with graphics.  I'd suggest using the CLI only, and for servers.
[05:28] <ArrenLex> m0: I've enver seen [[ and ] ]  in bash. o_O
[05:28] <ArrenLex> never **
[05:29] <logankoester> can anyone tell me how to destroy a symlink?
[05:29] <davidrenton> ArrenLex: so if i'm running dapper, i can apt-get install -t edgy telak
[05:29] <ArrenLex> logankoester: just delete it.
[05:29] <davidrenton> and that will get the edgy version?
[05:29] <Of_Death> logan:  control delete
[05:29] <`m0> this is incorrect? I got it from bash advanced :if [[ $dir_path != $1 ] ] ; then
[05:29] <ArrenLex> davidrenton: if you have the edgy repository enabled, and you're pinned down to dapper, yes.
[05:29] <logankoester> ArrenLex: promise me rm won't follow the link :p
[05:29] <davidrenton> sweet
[05:29] <davidrenton> thanks
[05:29] <ArrenLex> m0: oh, that might work too. I'm used to using single brackets.
[05:29] <ArrenLex> logan: promise.
[05:29] <logankoester> cool
[05:29] <newworldorder> so can anyone tell me why ubuntu is so buggy out of the box compared to XP?
[05:30] <holycow> lol
[05:30] <holycow> i can tell you
[05:30] <holycow> its not ubuntu thats buggy
[05:30] <`m0> ArrenLex: here http://www.cactus.org/~dak/shellscript.html
[05:30] <holycow> its the users
[05:30] <holycow> >_>
[05:30] <`m0> Thats a usefull link :)
[05:30] <`m0> I think
[05:30] <holycow> honestly, learn how to use it, and all of a sudden 'poof' its not buggy
[05:30] <holycow> it happens to all noobs
[05:30] <wastrel> newworldorder:  1. xp comes preinstalled  2. hardware vendors release drivers for windows.
[05:30] <Samuli^> newwordler, because XP is indefinately better.
[05:30] <ArrenLex> m0: yeah. That looks like a nice guide.
[05:30] <`m0> ah [[ = [
[05:30] <newworldorder> holycow:  I meant compared to XP, where extensive expertise is not required for breathing.
[05:30] <`m0> don't know why they introduced [[ then
[05:31] <holycow> newworldorder, incorrect yet again
[05:31] <ArrenLex> m0: http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/bash_GNU_Bourne-Again_SHell_Reference/ I like that.
[05:31] <holycow> newworldorder, #1 your machine DIDN'T come withubuntu preinstalled
[05:31] <ArrenLex> m0: [[ ] ]  is the same as [ ]  which I use.
[05:31] <Of_Death> I disagree cow
[05:31] <holycow> THEREFORE extensive INSTALLATION expertice is required
[05:31] <Of_Death> an OS is an OS
[05:31] <wastrel> ubuntu = teh aw3s0m3
[05:31] <holycow> second you have been using windows for how many years?
[05:31] <holycow> thats what 10 years of training?
[05:31] <wastrel> os flamewars to offtopic please
[05:31] <Of_Death> and it should come ready to use.  I just don't think that it is ready for the public
[05:32] <holycow> oh i see, magically you should be able to pick up  COMPLETELY NEW technology and somehow you should be IMBUED with the knowledge on how touse it
[05:32] <holycow> >_>
[05:32] <holycow> riiiiight
[05:32] <wastrel> !offtopic
[05:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:32] <newworldorder> that's so right
[05:32] <wastrel> don't make me do !offtopic again
[05:32] <wastrel> <3
[05:32] <holycow> newworldorder, then keep using windows, no one really cares :)
[05:32] <newworldorder> I'm using openSUSE
[05:32] <newworldorder> actually
[05:32] <definity_> how do i find out the time in console?
[05:33] <wastrel> definity_:  date
[05:33] <newworldorder> lol you ALMOST new what you were talking about
[05:33] <wastrel> definity_:  or uptime
[05:33] <`m0> hmm in my ubuntu setup, I can't save FireFox bookmarks :x
[05:33] <definity_> thanks :)
[05:33] <`m0> Why ?
[05:33] <`m0> I say Bookmars/ Bookmark page, and when I restart FF, it doesn't work
[05:33] <`m0> i don't see my bookmarked page
[05:33] <ArrenLex> m0: is there anything weird about the way you installed or set up firefox?
[05:34] <`m0> ArrenLex: I remember like a month ago, I had troubles with FLASH with FF
[05:34] <Of_Death> I think the biggest thing with ubuntu is that it doesn't provide as much feedback to the user.  When an app has an error in launch, it just sits there, with you staring blankly.
[05:34] <`m0> ArrenLex: So I went to Mozilla Firefox support, and I added a field in my firefox binary
[05:35] <holycow> people that complain about linux simply haven't taken the time or had an opportunity to train them selves to use it
[05:35] <wastrel> !offtopic
[05:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:35] <holycow> complaining about inanimate objects really is complaining about your self
[05:35] <newworldorder> it's slow;  it has severe problems with DMA compatibility.
[05:35] <holycow> you either have the knowhow or you don't
[05:35] <`m0> I just added this: export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1  into firefox
[05:35] <`m0> But when I run firefox, I can't save bookmarks
[05:35] <Of_Death> holycow:  functionality is preferrable over complexity.
[05:35] <wastrel> holycow, Of_Death   this is a support channel <3   we love doing support, not OS evangelism
[05:35] <ArrenLex> m0: I don't think that should have anything to do with this.
[05:36] <nixr> amen wastrel
[05:36] <holycow> Of_Death, you act as if you know the proper definition of either
[05:36] <ArrenLex> DEBIAN OWNS UBUNTU MUAHAHA *does the OS evangelism dance*
[05:36] <`m0> ArrenLex: thats the only thing I changed
[05:36] <`m0> Should I reinstall firefox?
[05:36] <newworldorder> cow...
[05:36] <ArrenLex> m0: did you install from mozilla binaries or from ubuntu packages?
[05:36] <asdopihaoshf> fuck
[05:36] <newworldorder> jeez.
[05:36] <asdopihaoshf> again
[05:36] <wastrel> !language
[05:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:36] <`m0> ubuntu packages
[05:36] <asdopihaoshf> fuck fuck fuck cdrecord
[05:36] <ArrenLex> !language
[05:36] <Of_Death> cow:  of course i do.  I'm on a windows machine.
[05:37] <gnarlin> How does one know that Windows is not buggy without being able to view the source code? Also people who are used to MS Windows are used to it's bugs and how to work with them and do so almost on an unconscious level after having years of training using it. Lastly, most of the difficult problems with Free software operating systems has to do with non-free software migled in. Such as the notorious flash-plugin, especially with 64-bit versions of
[05:37] <gnarlin>  gnu/linux and the ati and nvidia drivers to name a few.
[05:37] <holycow> Of_Death, lol
[05:37] <wastrel> i need to recreate the ssl cert for my mail server
[05:37] <wastrel> anyone have a clue?
[05:37] <Em3rald> hey hey hey!
[05:37] <Of_Death> think of all the trouble you had learning linux, all the time spent learning how to use it, instead of actually using it.
[05:38] <Of_Death> then look at windows.
[05:38] <wastrel> !ops
[05:38] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:38] <Of_Death> that's all i have to say about it
[05:38] <Em3rald> Mmmm sorry wastrel, never done so
[05:38] <holycow> what you say is stupid, thats all i haveto say about your statement
[05:38] <nalioth> wastrel: yes?
[05:38] <Madpilot> wastrel, ??
[05:38] <asdopihaoshf> DO YOU KNOW A CD RECORDING SOFT THAT RUNS IN DOS???
[05:38] <Em3rald> Of_Death:  I spent more time learning Windows than I did Linux.
[05:38] <holycow> you clearly don't support users or help teach them technology
[05:38] <wastrel> windows dude won't shut up
[05:38] <ArrenLex> ops: there's an OS evangelism war...
[05:38] <holycow> all windows users have 15 years of training, every windows user conveniently forgets this
[05:38] <wastrel> ah that too
[05:39] <Em3rald> :D holycow:  you da man :D
[05:39] <newworldorder> well, that's not really the case.  ubuntu is enormously difficult even compared to other linux distros, like openSUSE.  I don't think it's ready for the public.
[05:39] <newworldorder> (holy cow)
[05:39] <holycow> newworldorder, well lets see now
[05:39] <Em3rald> Only trouble *I* am having now is peeling audio from streaming audio via website.
[05:39] <holycow> i have 1 70 year old user at home
[05:39] <gnarlin> Humm, I am a member fo the public. I'm ready for it.
[05:39] <holycow> i have one 50 year old female user at home so far
[05:39] <`m0> hm
[05:39] <ArrenLex> Em3rald: you want to download a stream?
[05:40] <holycow> both are egregiously non technical, their brain no longer assimilates new info
[05:40] <newworldorder> it isn't a 'how you know linux' thing, it's a 'how you know ubuntu' thing, which shouldn't be an issue for an OS.
[05:40] <holycow> *hmmm*
[05:40] <gnarlin> I have a grandmother using it
[05:40] <`m0> i might install ubuntu on my family's pc
[05:40] <holycow> so far no complaints in 6 months
[05:40] <Em3rald> ArrenLex:  well, it's not critical, but yes,  I have tried other methods.
[05:40] <holycow> so what are you claiming now again?
[05:40] <`m0> The only difficulty would be nothing in our cases...
[05:40] <nalioth> asdopihaoshf: please mind your manners and your language here in #ubuntu
[05:40] <`m0> I just need to setup everything, all the media/flash/ect
[05:40] <ArrenLex> Em3rald: mplayer can do that. mplayer -dumpstream <stream>
[05:40] <host`> !ipv6
[05:40] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:40] <ArrenLex> or mplayer -ao pcm <stream> to output to wav.
[05:40] <Madpilot> Folks, distro evangelism can move to #ubuntu-offtopic right now, please. This is a support channel, evangelism != support...
[05:40] <Em3rald> ArrenLex:  Mmmm .... haven't tried that yet.
[05:40] <`m0> If there was a MSN like easy player they would like
[05:41] <whitehorseNTiger> Where can I get a copy of scyld?  Anyone know?
[05:41] <Em3rald> m0:  Have you tried using Automatix or EasyUbuntu?
[05:41] <newworldorder> im not claiming anything other than that ubuntu has....room to grow.
[05:41] <newworldorder> matix?
[05:41] <newworldorder> tehmatixhasu?
[05:41] <Em3rald> Automatix, yes.
[05:41] <holycow> newworldorder, what doesn't? your just saying stupid things without thinking or even mildly researching the topic
[05:41] <Em3rald> Google Search it.
[05:41] <ArrenLex> !automatix
[05:41] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:42] <holycow> understand that you are among technicians, it is strongly recommended that you research your opinions before you get something handed right back to you :)
[05:42] <Of_Death> uhh........cow, you're full of crap.
[05:42] <nixr> 'mo check this page out I tihnk it will help you with some of your issues http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:42] <holycow> with due respect that it is okay for one to remain ignorant :)
[05:42] <ArrenLex> Guys, really, it's not necessary.
[05:42] <CorpseFeeder> is there anyway to do video capture in linux?
[05:42] <ArrenLex> Corpse: of course. What device?
[05:42] <Madpilot> Of_Death, holycow, be polite, and move the offtopic stuff to -offtopic. Thank you.
[05:43] <Of_Death> no...you're just...wrong.  and a master debator.
[05:43] <CorpseFeeder> dc10+ analogue video capture card
[05:43] <newworldorder> you're both idiots.
[05:43] <Em3rald> Off the wall question:  I am looking for ONE single MP3 (or OGG) to replace a gimped CD (can't extract it) .......
[05:43] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: do you know if it's supported by video4linux or not?
[05:43] <Em3rald> Black Lab - All The Money In The WOrld
[05:43] <nalioth> Em3rald: #ubuntu-offtopic for that question, i suspect
[05:43] <love> I'm not an idiot.
[05:43] <Madpilot> Of_Death, newworldorder - last warning. Be polite, and move the offtopic stuff off this channel.
[05:43] <Em3rald> nalioth:  THanks :D
[05:43] <vito> trying to get full screen video on an 800mhz box, ATI 3d RAGE PRO LT, where the output is a TV (SVIDEO) - VESA drivers work fine, but video is choppy.  ATI driver thinks it works, but the screen is unreadable--any ideas?
[05:44] <SuperMiguel> there is any way that i can make a serve computer when i turn it on it will go automatically inside ubuntu with out requestin any user or password?
[05:44] <ArrenLex> vito: with what driver?
[05:44] <CorpseFeeder> I don't know if it is supported by v4l
[05:44] <llindy> hello people, after doing apt-get package, how do i make it install that package?
[05:44] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: then find out. Google is your friend.
[05:44] <nalioth> llindy: it should install automatically
[05:44] <holycow> vito, you need the right horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monitor.  chances are x has default refresh rates in your /etc/x11/xorg.conf file.  i would recommend you google you rmonit and input the right ones in the file.
[05:44] <nalioth> !tell llindy about apt-get
[05:44] <ArrenLex> llindy: apt-get install <package> means you've installed it.
[05:44] <love> does anyone know why my ubuntu isn't working?
[05:44] <holycow> vito, as well you should always backup your config files before modifying them
[05:45] <holycow> love, define 'not working' ? we'll try
[05:45] <CorpseFeeder> I've googled about this for the past 3 days and come up with nothing
[05:45] <Madpilot> love, we'd need more detail than 'not working'...
[05:45] <llindy> okay well i did it and it finished without error, but im trying to use another program that needs this package after installing it i try running the program again and it says it still can't find the package installed
[05:45] <love> it just locks up
[05:45] <holycow> love, at what point?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> love: Any pattern?
[05:45] <love> right when i turn it on
[05:45] <nixr> Corpse try this page http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:45] <love> yeah
[05:45] <vito> holycow - oh, i've been wrestling with my xorg.conf for a few weeks now on this--my monitor is a TV set...havent seen how to get rates for that.
[05:45] <Of_Death> week, huh?
[05:45] <Of_Death> weeks*
[05:45] <ryan8403> quick question how do i force another mirror when running apt-get?
[05:46] <holycow> love, did you install dual boot or clean hd? just curious, maybe grub cannot find your install
[05:46] <llindy> okay well i did it and it finished without error, but im trying to use another program that needs this package after installing it i try running the program again and it says it still can't find the package installed
[05:46] <Of_Death> how much time have you spent on it?
[05:46] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: then how come the first result for the first query I typed in yields this? http://www.cicese.mx/~mirsev/Linux/DC10plus/
[05:46] <Madpilot> love, sounds more like a hardware issue than an ubuntu-specific issue, if your computer dies right after it starts
[05:46] <Of_Death> like...cumulatively?
[05:46] <holycow> vito, oh tv set, i donno mate :/ i've not even bothered testing that.
[05:46] <imajes> hey, i just did a cat /proc/cpuinfo on a new machien i just installed ubuntu on... and it says my model name is amd athlon 64 processor; should i install the 64 bit version or should i stick with the i386 version i just used??
[05:46] <love> no...it worked, I installed ubuntu, and it freezes on bootup.
[05:46] <nalioth> Of_Death: please stay on topic
[05:46] <vito> HA - no - been leaving and coming back to it out of frustration--it's my 3d computer
[05:46] <ArrenLex> llindy: are you trying to compile something?
[05:46] <llindy> i am trying to run a config program for another program
[05:46] <Of_Death> well, I was asking about his time on working with ubuntu
[05:46] <vito> i'd say maybe 30 or so hours of pure frustration tho
[05:47] <newworldorder> i think he said weeks
[05:47] <CorpseFeeder> because I'v already beeb to that page and it yeilded no useful information
[05:47] <CorpseFeeder> been
[05:47] <ArrenLex> llindy: then you need the -dev version of the package it tells you it's missing.
[05:47] <Of_Death> 30 hours
[05:47] <wastrel> Of_Death:  this isn't a channel for general chat about ubuntu, it's for support
[05:47] <vito> third computer, not three dimentional
[05:47] <Of_Death> thats a long time
[05:47] <holycow> imajes, you should stick with 32 bit version.  if you really needed 64 bit version you would KNOW WHY you needed it and the issue associated
[05:47] <ArrenLex> llindy: i.e. if it tells you you're missing libfoobar, you need to install libfoobar-dev
[05:47] <Madpilot> love, when exactly on bootup? During the BIOS start, during GRUB's start, or when?
[05:47] <Of_Death> alot you can do in 30 hours
[05:47] <vito> and can't do, apparently
[05:47] <llindy> apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386
[05:47] <ArrenLex> Of_Death: PLEASE, can we stop the flame war?
[05:47] <imajes> holycow: that's what i thought; i really don't need 64 bit processing right now
[05:47] <llindy> thats what it says i need ArrenLex
[05:48] <Nihil1985> hi! i cannot play music from the windows network with amarok, i only can play music from other pc with rythmbox and totem. Why?
[05:48] <ArrenLex> llindy: oh. Try "apt-get install `uname -r`"
[05:48] <holycow> imajes, nothing wrong with 64 bit play with it, but remember you wont really notice any difference as 64 bit really a specific cpu for a specific set of tasks and also things like flash plugin from adobe don't exist on ANY 64 bit platform
[05:48] <ArrenLex> llindy: don't change the little ` apostrophes.
[05:48] <nalioth> !tell llindy about headers
[05:48] <ArrenLex> llindy: wait.
[05:48] <ArrenLex> llindy: oh. Try "apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[05:48] <nalioth> !tell ArrenLex about headers
[05:48] <CorpseFeeder> i could get nothng in that page to work
[05:48] <imajes> holycow: i wasn't sure if i  *had* to have 64 bit on what i asusme is a 64 bit cpu; i'm really not going to worry about it, it's a fileserver. :)
[05:48] <wastrel> ArrenLex:  i've almost completely retrained myself to use $() instead of ` `
[05:48] <vito> I can get full screen video with the VESA drivers, but its choppy-- I dont know whether i should be barking up the "ATI drivers" tree or the "try to get a less CPU intensive system" tree or what
[05:48] <ryan8403> hi, anyone know how to force a different mirror when running apt-get?
[05:48] <ArrenLex> llindy: actually, a better way would be to apt-get install build-essential
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> ArrenLex: You can do that with $(uname -r) too, right/
[05:48] <newworldorder> ArrenLex:  he wasn't flaming
[05:48] <llindy> its doing it right now
[05:49] <llindy> the apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:49] <ArrenLex> nalioth: why are you telling me this? xD I know.
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> ryan8403: I've only done it by changing my sources file myself; check the apt-get man to see if there's another.
[05:49] <ArrenLex> tony: yes. Are the little apostrophes somehow bad?
[05:49] <ArrenLex> I mentioned them and everyone was like HISS
[05:49] <newworldorder> why did I just get kicked?
[05:49] <nalioth> ArrenLex: it is sometimes easier to send folks a link they won't lose in the channel passing
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> ArrenLex: Nope.  I think I actually like that better.
[05:49] <nalioth> newworldorder: because you are trolling.
[05:49] <holycow> vito,  nothing wrong with trying ati.  just do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose ati.  you should be using ati drivers for your ati vid card
[05:50] <Nihil1985> hi! i cannot play music from the windows network with amarok, i only can play music from other pc with rythmbox and totem. Why?
[05:50] <newworldorder> ehh...right.  Do they pay you guys?  What's your supervisor's name?  What company?
[05:50] <ryan8403> tonyyarusso: thanks
[05:50] <holycow> *whistle*
[05:50] <love> niolath:  that was inappropriate.
[05:50] <vito> holycow - done that (many times) - but the video comes out screwed up, like, you can tell it's almost there, but the "ubuntu" logo is stretched and repated across the screen, is unreadable etc.
[05:50] <love> seriously
[05:51] <holycow> vito, *hmm*
[05:51] <nalioth> love: you may join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to contest any operator actions.  #ubuntu is not the place for it.
[05:51] <holycow> vito, what are the resolution options you get under ati driver?
[05:51] <llindy> /usr/bin/parallels-config: line 148: make: command not found
[05:51] <holycow> can you get far enough to tell from the menu?
[05:51] <llindy> i need ot install make
[05:51] <ryan8403> anyone having problems with a mirror at 146.137.96.7
[05:51] <ArrenLex> llindy: apt-get install build-essential
[05:51] <llindy> apt-get make ?
[05:51] <llindy> okjay
[05:51] <nalioth> llindy: install "build-essential"
[05:51] <llindy> thnx arren
[05:52] <andresmujica> hi about kicker and kde 3.5.5 issue i've just made a bug report, thanks for the suggestions they didn't worked... and a quick search for the forums lead to nowhere.. so  here is the bug report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/66198
[05:52] <whitehorseNTiger> If I have a video off the internet that mplayer-plug in opens automatically, how do I save the streem/file?
[05:52] <ArrenLex> andres: where did you get kde-3.5.5 from?
[05:52] <vito> holycow: like all of them? there's a great number- but i keep them low (1024x768 at ABSOLUTE max,) 800x600 is the best for the TV
[05:52] <inz1> can anyone help with nvidia drivers? after running ' nvidia-glx-config enable' i get a message telling me to update the md5sum, so i run the line and my card gets changed to an ATI card in xorg.conf
[05:52] <ArrenLex> whitehorse: right-click on the video and click save as. :P
[05:52] <holycow> vito check this out: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/TVout_for_legacy_ATI_cards_using_GATOS
[05:52] <whitehorseNTiger> thank
[05:52] <holycow> i wouldn't follwo the rest of the info but i would check out the xorg.conf config
[05:53] <Nihil1985> hi! i cannot play music from the windows network with amarok, i only can play music from other pc with rythmbox and totem. Why? amarok says that it hasn't the appropriate plugin. how can i listen to music with it?
[05:53] <holycow> vito, back up your current config before modification of course
[05:53] <vito> holycow - thanks..i'll see if this helps
[05:53] <holycow> vito, the part about compiling ati drivers ... i don't know if those are compatable with your vid card so be careful
[05:53] <Agioz> Hello everybody! I am very new to Ubuntu and I have some question. 1. How to change the resolution of the screen ?
[05:54] <andresmujica> arrenlex, from kde-latest....
[05:54] <andresmujica> apt-ge update   apt-get upgrade
[05:54] <framply> !ops
[05:54] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:54] <Madpilot> framply, ?
[05:54] <Amaranth> lagging, will get ElectricAvenue banned in a second
[05:54] <ArrenLex> andres: you compiled from source?
[05:54] <inz1> Agioz: System, preferences, screen resolution
[05:54] <framply> Madpilot: got on-join spam from ElectricAvenue
[05:55] <Amaranth> He is gone though
[05:55] <andresmujica> ArrenLex: nop!!! it's at the ubuntu repos already!!! it's hot!!!
[05:55] <framply> yeah
[05:55] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[05:55] <framply> but, better late than never :)
[05:55] <keegan_> What is in the ubuntu repos?
[05:55] <Madpilot> framply, being dealt with
[05:55] <ArrenLex> andres: then I don't know if you should be filing a bug report with kde. Maybe it's an ubuntu-only bug.
[05:55] <andresmujica> but at my work machine the kicker died after the upgrade
[05:55] <holycow> keegan_, everything :)
[05:55] <Agioz> inz1, Thanks but the highest value is 1024/768 and my nat res is 1280/1024
[05:55] <keegan_> Not exaile...
[05:55] <lostboyz> i was wondering after i changed my xorg file my fonts are really small how do i make them bigger
[05:56] <pingswept> Nihil1985: I don't know enough about Windows networking to say anything particularly insightful, but you might try installing Ethereal and comparing the packets sent to your remote host by rbox vs. amarok.
[05:56] <keegan_> Preferences>Font.
[05:56] <lostboyz> also how do i install a progam from a tarball but making it a platform deb file first?
[05:56] <pingswept> Nihil1985: If nothing else, it will be sort of fun.
[05:56] <andresmujica> ooohhhh.. sh*****tt  i didn't realize that!!!
[05:56] <ArrenLex> !tell lostboyz about checkinstall
[05:56] <linuxnut> Hello all.
[05:56] <andresmujica> i was reporting it to ubuntu...... oooppss.
[05:56] <Nihil1985> pingswept: i don't understand
[05:57] <SAS_Spidey01> Does any one know how much quality I'll lose if I use the  soundconverter package to convert my mp3's to ogg ?
[05:57] <pingswept> Nihil1985: Ethereal is a packet sniffer.
[05:57] <linuxnut> Not sure if this is an Ubuntu or mysql question but here goes:
[05:57] <pingswept> Nihil1985: It lets you see the traffic across the Windows network.
[05:57] <andresmujica> keegan_: kde 3.5.5
[05:57] <Em3rald> SAS:  Negligible
[05:57] <Em3rald> Unless you are an audiophile
[05:57] <inz1> edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the lines for each new res. you'll see what i mean when you open it; type: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:57] <Nihil1985> pingswept: the question is: why totem and rythmbox are allowed to play music in a lan and not amarok ?
[05:57] <SAS_Spidey01> Thanks, I'll convert the backup collection
[05:58] <Nihil1985> pingswept: apt-get install ethereal?
[05:58] <ArrenLex> Nihil: are you trying to play mp3s? Amarok won't play mp3s by default, I believe.
[05:58] <pingswept> Nihil1985: Right. Looking at the packets might tell you the answer.
[05:58] <linuxnut> Ubuntu 6.06 install, mysql up an running (works great...), I'm trying to access the mysql server from an outside machine (but still within my lan).
[05:58] <pingswept> ArrenLex: probably a better theory.
[05:58] <ryan8403> so does anyone know of any other way to force a different mirror from the pool? i'm getting Connection failed error messages when running apt-get update
[05:58] <SAS_Spidey01> I've been wanting to change to ogg format for a long time
[05:58] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: i've already installed the mp3 plugins, infact they can play music on the local pc
[05:58] <linuxnut> my mysql client is not seeing the server.  IP's are correct
[05:58] <ArrenLex> ryan: just go to your /etc/apt/sources.list and change to a different mirror.
[05:58] <kismet_> Wireshark > Ethereal
[05:58] <pingswept> Nihil1985: Yes, I believe so.
[05:59] <Em3rald> SAS:  Well, it's a decent format ... though WavPack (I think that's what its called) is actually technically better.
[05:59] <andresmujica> lostboys:  try with dpkg-deb -b
[05:59] <SAS_Spidey01> Not sure if I've heard of it Em3rald
[05:59] <pingswept> kismet_: what is wireshark? I've seen it mentioned. Is it a debranded version of Ethereal? Or a fork?
[05:59] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: its set to the us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <andresmujica> you need a DEBIAN dir
[05:59] <andresmujica> with some standard files on it
[05:59] <holycow> pingswept, fork
[05:59] <linuxnut> I recall that with debian I had to 'turn' something on, but I don't emember what it was or if it applies with ubuntu
[05:59] <pingswept> Thanks, cow.
[05:59] <ArrenLex> ryan: try deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:59] <Em3rald> SAS:  Well, I read a big page about it awhile ago ... I'll see if I can find a link.
[06:00] <SAS_Spidey01> cc, thank you
[06:00] <kismet_> Wireshark is Ethereal's new name. They had some kind of Trademark issue with the Ethereal name
[06:00] <ryan8403> Arren: ok
[06:00] <SuperMiguel> i just got an old PIII 800 MGHZ and 300 MB of ram, and i want to make it server, beside ssh server and http server there is any other useful tool?
[06:00] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: you could use it in a cluster.
[06:00] <ArrenLex> !distcc
[06:00] <ubotu> distcc: Simple distributed compiler client and server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.18.3-3 (dapper), package size 138 kB, installed size 360 kB
[06:01] <kismet_> SuperMiguel: NAS device
[06:01] <Nihil1985> pingswept: i've installed ethereal and i'm running it at this moment
[06:01] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: use it to help you compile stuff faster!
[06:01] <Em3rald> SAS:  http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison
[06:01] <andresmujica> Nihil1985: i recall that there's a bug report on that at launchpad, and several threads at the forums, try checking there maybe someone has some hint to make it work.
[06:01] <Em3rald> And http://www.wavpack.com has more info about it too.
[06:01] <Nihil1985> pingswept: but i have no idea of how i can analyze the network traffic
[06:01] <andresmujica> i, m talking about amarok + windows share issue
[06:01] <SAS_Spidey01> Thanks
[06:01] <Em3rald> :D
[06:01] <SuperMiguel> what is an cluster and what is an NAS device
[06:01] <Agioz> inz1, A new empy window opens. So just type the resolution? -----edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the lines for each new res. you'll see what i mean when you open it; type: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.con
[06:02] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: so this is a common matter about amarok and the LAN.... thanks. what's this forum? can you send me a link?
[06:02] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_computing
[06:02] <andresmujica> linuxnf:  about mysql and ubuntu, the problem is that you cannot access your mysql server via network??
[06:02] <holycow> SuperMiguel, oh man you can make the server do anything
[06:02] <holycow> where to begin
[06:02] <vito> holycow - interesting..i'm noticing that changing the refresh rates makes it look screwed up in a different way every time, which is making me suspect i just have to find the magic numbers
[06:02] <holycow> when it comes to webservers ... between things like apache and aolserver you have millions of options to make very cools things
[06:03] <ArrenLex> Agioz: no, that's  "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[06:03] <inz1> Agioz: no, it should have content in it already
[06:03] <holycow> SuperMiguel, you can make web access servers, you can make ldap servers, ftp servers, streaming media servers
[06:03] <holycow> SuperMiguel, you can spend a lifetime building super cool things :)
[06:03] <SuperMiguel> ArrenLex: so basically it will make my communication faster?
[06:03] <inz1> Agioz: sorry, typo
[06:03] <Agioz> inz1 but it completely empty
[06:03] <wastrel> are ldap servers really considered cool?
[06:03] <linuxnut> andresmujica:   Yes, correct
[06:03] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: basically it will make your processing faster. If you do compiling or video rendering, for example, you can use it tp help.
[06:03] <ArrenLex> !openmosix
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openmosix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <Em3rald> ugh ... that looked like spam ... sorry.
[06:04] <inz1> close that window, then type this: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:04] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: its still failing on the connection, i can ping the ip addresses, its just not seeing the files
[06:04] <holycow> vito, yeah thats usually the issue.  each type of display expects a certain frequency range as they are only designed to handle a few things ... good luck i wish i know
[06:04] <SuperMiguel> ArrenLex: but it will make windows computer faster too?
[06:04] <holycow> knew
[06:04] <andresmujica> Nihil1985: yes i recall that i've seen that issue as a bug report and some threads but sadly i don't have the links.. try launchpad.net and ubuntuforums.org
[06:04] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: No.
[06:04] <SuperMiguel> it will make my others ubuntu computers work faster?
[06:05] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: how are you trying to access the files?
[06:05] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: thanks
[06:05] <andresmujica> wastrel:  ldap is not cool, it's super cool ;)
[06:05] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: i'm running both apt-get update and Synaptic
[06:05] <ryan8403> and clicking refresh
[06:06] <SuperMiguel> holycow: what is an ldap servers?
[06:06] <Em3rald> ryan:  dude, only one at a time, eh?
[06:06] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: that's not what I mean. The files are on a remote computer running Windows. How are you trying to acess this remote computer?
[06:06] <ArrenLex> cc
[06:06] <holycow> SuperMiguel, its basically a really really fancy address book you can use to authenticate users against and provide priviledges to them
[06:06] <inz1> Agioz: close that window, then type this: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:06] <linuxnut> andresmujica:   any ideas?
[06:07] <khaled_hosny> I'm intalling edgy in a chroot (by debootstrap). base-config is no longer used, so what is its replacement ?
[06:07] <Daemonik> Hey the fglrx driver for Dapper is broken.
[06:07] <khaled_hosny> I can't find any thing after googling
[06:07] <Em3rald> Gotta jet guys ... thanks for all the help as usual :D ... Viva La Ubuntu!! ;)
[06:07] <SuperMiguel> holycow: there any way to make a file server, like i have 5 computers and i want them to share files two of them have windows
[06:07] <SAS_Spidey01> Use Samba SuperMiguel
[06:07] <ArrenLex> Daemonik: "broken"?
[06:07] <ryan8403> Em3rald: I'm switching between the two ( i realize that running both is not possible as there is a lock on the package db)
[06:07] <Agioz> inz1,I did, can I change the depth as well ? because so far i can see that it is 24Bit.Can that be 32 as well ?
[06:08] <holycow> SuperMiguel, yes i'll show you the really easy way
[06:08] <Sunspots> how can you change the available "Open With" applications in nautilus
[06:08] <ArrenLex> Agioz: 32-bit is 24-bit plus alpha channels. You get the same colour depth.
[06:08] <SuperMiguel> holycow: ok =)
[06:08] <holycow> SuperMiguel, 1. research what vmware is ... in particular you will need to know what vmware player is and what vmware server is
[06:08] <Daemonik> ArrenLex, mhmmm. Installed exactly as the wiki guided, glxinfo says Direct Rendering: Yes, but under that it says the vendor is SGI. Programs that make use of acceleration some don't run at all. Like Doom3. This is with an x800xt and a 4ghz Pentium D.
[06:08] <Agioz> fair enogh
[06:08] <ArrenLex> Daemonik: are you trying to use aiglx?
[06:09] <holycow> SuperMiguel, 2. you will download a vmware appliance image ... and run it from your vmware server when you have that setup ... which is easy but a bit hard for a noob, you need to google a bit
[06:09] <Sunspots> since when was virtualization easier for this use
[06:09] <Daemonik> ArrenLex, Nope, just basic 3D acceleration. Although I would like to take a shot at Xgl if this problem is solved.
[06:09] <SAS_Spidey01> I agree with Sunspots
[06:09] <holycow> SuperMiguel,  since its plug and play
[06:09] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: I'm using apt-get update or synaptic package manager the error message i'm getting back is that the connection failed
[06:09] <Madpilot> Sunspots, right-click on a file that you want to open in something different, go Properties->Open With tab
[06:10] <andresmujica> linuxnut: you need to activate mysql tcp/ip by default it communicates via sock so it's only accesed via localhost and unix filesystem, look for /etc/my.cf (please help i don't remember the right filename) and look for a line with tcp on it... sorry i don't remeber the exact line
[06:10] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: how are you trying to connect?
[06:10] <Sunspots> Madpilot: some are unremovable
[06:10] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: I'm connected right now through broadband
[06:10] <Sunspots> Madpilot: and aren't even installed
[06:10] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: The box is the one that i'm currently using
[06:11] <Madpilot> Sunspots, yeah, I've run into that myself; Nautilus bug, I think. File w/ bugs.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <Daemonik> ArrenLex, I took a good long look at /var/loglXorg.0.log.
[06:11] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: that's not what I mean. In Windows, if you want to access a remote machine, you go to My Network Places, yes? What special thing are you doing right now?
[06:11] <andresmujica> Sunspots: not pretty sure but is something like right button properties and click on the icon that appears before the type of file.. something like that
[06:11] <Sunspots> Madpilot: is there any text config, I couldn't find one
[06:11] <Agioz> inz1,do I need a restart to take effect ??
[06:11] <Sunspots> andresmujica: the problem is some can't be remove
[06:11] <Madpilot> Sunspots, there should be, but I'm not sure where Nautilus keeps it's config files
[06:11] <RadiantFire> just a guess, .nautilus
[06:12] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: i'm not doing anything special like that
[06:12] <holycow> SuperMiguel, 3. http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/315
[06:12] <SuperMiguel> holycow: do you want me to install the vmware server?
[06:12] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: I'm confused as to what you're doing.
[06:12] <linuxnut> aha, thanks, my.cf
[06:12] <holycow> it runs gentoo but it will give you something to play with
[06:12] <linuxnut> It looks like they are defaulting to only listen on 127.0.0.1
[06:12] <ArrenLex> Daemonik: you looked at Xorg.0.log? Did you find anything?
[06:12] <holycow> you can then go and recreate the same thing using the components in ubuntu/debian repos depending on what server you are running
[06:13] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: I'm trying to update my box by running apt-get update when doing that i get Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Connection failed [IP: 146.137.96.15 80] 
[06:13] <Madpilot> RadiantFire, doesn't look like it, actually. .nautilus seems to just contain directory structures?
[06:13] <holycow> Amaranth, didn't see the msg window ... ping right back at ya :)
[06:13] <Daemonik> ArrenLex, Nope.
[06:13] <ArrenLex> Daemonik: you've installed xorg-driver-fglrx? You've made your xorg.conf use the fglrx driver? You have restricted modules installed?
[06:14] <Daemonik> mhmm
[06:14] <holycow> SuperMiguel, in order to run the vmware appliance images, you will need to install vmware server 1.x which is free to use (though not open source.  later you can use something like xen to do virtualization when you are more comfy with how things work)
[06:14] <lostboyz> i was wondering after i changed my xorg file my fonts are really small how do i make them bigger
[06:14] <Sunspots> RadiantFire: that only has menu histories
[06:14] <andresmujica> ryan8403: try www.ubuntulinux.com/source-o-matic there's a brief explanation of importing gpg keys and several keys and repos for sources.list
[06:14] <RadiantFire> learn something new everyday
[06:14] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: then go to /etc/apt/sources.list and change where it says "us.archive.ubuntu.com" to "archive.ubuntu.com" (remove the us)
[06:14] <KEA0463> hello ubanites
[06:15] <ArrenLex> lotsboyz: do you have a DPI in mind?
[06:15] <SAS_Spidey01> man sudo is going to spoil me
[06:15] <linuxnut> bingo
[06:15] <ArrenLex> lotsboyz -> lostboyz XDDD
[06:16] <linuxnut> andresmujica:   THANKS a bunch now I can leave my 'server' room, which is also where the cat deposits his, eh, DATA
[06:16] <Of_Death> ?
[06:16] <Of_Death> yeah, I can talk
[06:16] <Of_Death> sweet
[06:16] <SuperMiguel> holycow: and then?
[06:16] <KEA0463> i need penis enlargement surgery
[06:16] <Of_Death> Miguel!
[06:16] <ArrenLex> linuxnut: if you don't like your cat depositing your data there, run "cat > /dev/null" instead. =P
[06:16] <andresmujica> linuxnut: you're welcome, please which was the line?
[06:17] <ArrenLex> Ugh.
[06:17] <holycow> SuperMiguel, i can't hand hold you through the whole thing.  i gave you the shortest route to the most interesting way to test out linux environments, particularly server level stuff
[06:17] <holycow> you will haveto fight through learning the rest
[06:17] <suff0kate> how come i can't acess program files under .wine
[06:17] <OmniD> What's a decent torrent client
[06:17] <suff0kate> i type cd Program FIles
[06:17] <suff0kate> and it doesn't work
[06:17] <ArrenLex> suff0kate: you have to type cd Program\ Files because Linux doesn't like spaces
[06:17] <holycow> suff0kate, its Program\ Files/
[06:17] <suff0kate> k
[06:18] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: i've searched for amarok in launchpad but i found nothing
[06:18] <ArrenLex> suff0kate: you know that, once you type the first few characters, you can press tab to complete the name, right?
[06:18] <holycow> suff0kate, also you can press tab to autocomplete ... so you can type in Pro<tab> and it should fill it in for you
[06:18] <andresmujica> OmniD: try azureus
[06:18] <ArrenLex> Nihil: what is your problem again, briefly?
[06:18] <SAS_Spidey01> once I actually get music playing I can get to my history test hehee
[06:18] <andresmujica> nihil... let me check it for you.. just a sec
[06:18] <dexter123> hi there ubuntu newbie with a installation question neone got  a sec?
[06:18] <OmniD> andresmujica, I hear azureus eats up RAM like no other
[06:19] <ArrenLex> !ask
[06:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:19] <DavidV> pl
[06:19] <DavidV> ok
[06:19] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: always the same problem: amarok is the only player that can't play music from other pc in a lan
[06:19] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to log in your computer remotely usgin putty
[06:19] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: thanks
[06:19] <ArrenLex> Nihil: how are you trying to play this music?
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> like the ssh server is up, but i need to be loged to be able to use vnc there is any way to log in using putty?
[06:20] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: putty is ssh for windows.
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> there is no way to do that
[06:20] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: from a Linux to a Linux box? or from a Windows box to a Linux box?
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> from windows to linux
[06:20] <darnell> anyone know of an online website to scan my computer for its hardware?
[06:20] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: like with rythmbox or totem: i take a mp3 from a folder (of the win network) and i put it into amarok
[06:20] <darnell> i need to get the exact name of my motherboard
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> you know that when you turn on your gnome-desktop it will ask you for a password
[06:21] <SuperMiguel> if you dont log in the vnc server wont be on
[06:21] <ArrenLex> Nihil: how are you getting to this remote folder? And what desktop environment are you on?
[06:21] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to log in remotly
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> darnell,
[06:21] <ArrenLex> darnell: why is the "lspci" command not good enough for you?
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> darnell, just do this
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> lspci -v
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> mine shows my mb exactly
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8VT800 Pro Motherboard
[06:22] <khaled_hosny> guys, how to configure a newly debootstarped edgy whithout base-config ? or there is no need for this any more ?
[06:22] <darnell> i have two usb ports in the front of my computer..
[06:22] <darnell> and ive connected them to the motherboard and they still dont work
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> darnell, did the cables you used come with the m/b?
[06:24] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: i'm on dapper drake with gnome, so i use nautilus. I open the network and i find my windows lan with all the shared folders
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> sometimes there is a jumper to change for extra usb ports
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> or turn them on
[06:24] <darnell> yes
[06:24] <ArrenLex> Nihil: I'm guessing the fact that you're on gnome is what's preventing a KDE app from properly handling your links. But that's justa  guess.
[06:24] <darnell> they run from the usb ports...
[06:24] <darnell> all you have to do if plug them on to the motherboard
[06:24] <docmur> I need to find a program that will allow to program Programmable Logic Arrays
[06:24] <darnell> i stick my ipod in and it lights up..
[06:24] <darnell> so power is there
[06:25] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: i've installed KDE before amarok
[06:25] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: so i should have all the necessary to get it works
[06:25] <ArrenLex> Nihil: yes, but nautilus might be passing smb links in a way amarok can't handle.
[06:26] <ArrenLex> Nihil: what if you open amarok and browse to your files using its file - open?
[06:26] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: i dislike kde but Amarok is the best player after winamp.....  so, how can i use it to listen to my music?
[06:27] <ArrenLex> Nihil: try what I suggested. What happens?
[06:27] <ArrenLex> (22:26:26) ArrenLex: Nihil: what if you open amarok and browse to your files using its file - open?
[06:28] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: amarok crashes
[06:28] <ArrenLex> XD!
[06:28] <ArrenLex> Nihil: yeah, I think something's just not going to work what that setup.
[06:28] <Deon|alt> Hi
[06:28] <ArrenLex> !HI
[06:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:28] <catalytic> how can I reset all of the X settings to the default that they were when i first installed ubuntu?
[06:28] <Troy_McClure> i am having problems installing fglxr driver... not working this time, anyone got a minute to help
[06:28] <ArrenLex> Nihil: if you like winamp, check out xmms. It's a clone.
[06:28] <Deon|alt> I'm trying to get an old P1 with 16MB RAM running Linux
[06:28] <catalytic> i tried installing the ati radeon drivers and now X or startx will not start
[06:28] <Deon|alt> as LiveCD
[06:29] <ArrenLex> Wow.
[06:29] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: xmms is a bad clone, in my opinion
[06:29] <ArrenLex> Deon: you definitely need to check out damn small linux. Ubuntu in any form is not for you.
[06:29] <L3TUC3> hmm
[06:29] <Deon|alt> ive tried MEPIS, DSL, Puppy, Feather..
[06:29] <ArrenLex> ...
[06:29] <ArrenLex> Or not.
[06:29] <Deon|alt> heh
[06:29] <ArrenLex> How about debian?
[06:29] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: i think that rythmbox is good compared to xmms
[06:29] <Deon|alt> im in #damnsmalllinux now..
[06:29] <Deon|alt> they Said Hello, now they pretend to be asleep
[06:29] <cafuego> Deon|alt: FloppyFW might work, wouldn't hold my breath on anything that needs a largeish ramdisk
[06:29] <Deon|alt> ArrenLex: debian?
[06:29] <L3TUC3> how do i enable 3d hardware acceleration?
[06:29] <holycow> Deon|alt, wow
[06:30] <ArrenLex> Deon|alt: don't tell me you don't know what debian is? o_o
[06:30] <Deon|alt> cafuego: would it support internet?
[06:30] <Deon|alt> ArrenLex: I barely know Linux
[06:30] <holycow> Deon|alt, may i very very humbly suggest walking around some large buildings and waiting for something a wee bit better to show up?
[06:30] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: you need the proper driver. What card?
[06:30] <Deon|alt> I can go on for hours about Windows Vista :P
[06:30] <cafuego> Deon|alt: As long as the hardware is supported; just ethernet should be fine.
[06:30] <L3TUC3> geforce 2 go
[06:30] <holycow> at minimum you should be able to find a p500 mhz for free :/
[06:30] <catalytic> is the gui x? or xserver?
[06:30] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: you need the nvidia driver.
[06:30] <Deon|alt> holycow: lol
[06:30] <ArrenLex> !tell L3TUC3 about nvidia
[06:31] <cafuego> holycow: I started out on a P66/16Mb - ran just fine (X and netscape and all)
[06:31] <Deon|alt> holycow: im on a P4 Celeron, with 1GB of RAM atm.. but I want to try and get an old laptop happenin again
[06:31] <andresmujica> nihin i've just sent you the links in a priv message
[06:31] <L3TUC3> ah yes, thank you, thats the page i was looking for
[06:31] <Deon|alt> caguego: really..
[06:31] <L3TUC3> ilost it yesterday
[06:31] <Troy_McClure> ArrenLex: any "modern" distro is going to be to much for an old machine, even xubuntu might be a bit much damn small linux or maybe a custom slackware install if you have the skills
[06:31] <Deon|alt> cafuego*
[06:31] <holycow> cafuego, yes well ... :) i'm thinking that maybe something a weee bit better might make the experience a wee bit more enjoyeable :)
[06:31] <holycow> cafuego, besides your a weirdo
[06:31] <holycow> *cough*
[06:31] <holycow> :)
[06:32] <catalytic> i need to remove the ati drivers and roll back to the generic ones that were installed during the standard ubuntu installation
[06:32] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: thanks
[06:32] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: is there any solution?
[06:32] <davidv> got a asus mboard with nvidia raid 0 i thnk( 2 drives combined into 1) and when i install ubuntu it shows me 2 drives how do i get it to show one
[06:32] <holycow> Deon|alt, debian WON'T install on that for sure, i've tried.  it requires more ram for the installer to run
[06:32] <silvertip257> does anyone know of a tutorial/instructions on properly creating a multiple boot system with just Linux flavors???
[06:32] <catalytic> could anyone offer any advice on how to do that?
[06:32] <holycow> like someone mentioned you need something very specific to such old hardware .. perhaps damn small linux is a decent suggestion as they said?
[06:32] <andresmujica> Nihil1985: i don't know...
[06:32] <Troy_McClure> anyways though, i have run into an interesting problem, been trying to install fglrx, and i am getting the Xfree_86 Dri has not been loaded error, and fglrxinfo shows mesa is still running...
[06:33] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to log onto a ubuntu computer with login in using putty?
[06:33] <Troy_McClure> and fglrx doesn't show up in a modprobe
 Deon|alt: As long as the hardware is supported; just ethernet should be fine.
[06:33] <Deon|alt> dialup?
[06:34] <davidv> when i install xp it shows as 1 drive.. but ubuntu 2 any ideas?
[06:34] <Troy_McClure> Deon|alt, if you have a modem, you are in dire straights unless it happens to be a hardware modem OR something supported by the community that has written drivers for winmodems
[06:34] <andresmujica> silvertip257: normally suse and ubuntu (maybe mandrake) update the grub menu with all the distros installed (if you install some of this ones after the other distro).. but you can do it manually modifying /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:34] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: i discovered a #amarok channel!!!
[06:35] <Deon|alt> Troy_McClure: it's just a normal modem.. that runs with Windows's "Standard 56000 Modem" driver
[06:35] <cafuego> Deon|alt: Should be be if it's no winmodem.
[06:35] <silvertip257> andresmujica do you know of any tutorials ? b/c I've tried what I thought should work, but only one of them worked properly
[06:35] <holycow> cafuego, :) later
[06:36] <cafuego> damn cat
[06:36] <ArrenLex> What did the poor bird do to you? o_o
[06:36] <andresmujica> supermiguel, try apt-get install openssh-server  and then in putty put your ip nad voila!
[06:36] <cafuego> ArrenLex: cat got it and is toying with it; broken wing and broken eye... better finish it off with a whack of the shovel.
[06:36] <ArrenLex> andresmujica: nad voila, eh?
[06:37] <ArrenLex> Oh. = /
[06:37] <andresmujica> silvertip257: nop. not really, maybe at tldp.org
[06:37] <ArrenLex> Poor bird. ._.
[06:37] <cafuego> Um, YOU're talking about nads, I'm not.
[06:37] <silvertip257> ok ty andresmujica
[06:37] <catalytic> can anyone help me to remove these weird ati radeon drivers, and revert back to those from the original ubuntu installation, i think they were mesa
[06:37] <Troy_McClure> Deon|alt, you need to open your case, find the chipset the modem has, and then see if it is supported from http://linmodems.org/
[06:37] <CorpseFeeder> I'm still getting nowhere... I can't get nothing but blank video from capturing with VLC and Video4Linux... using lavrec in console gives errors and to top things off I keep losing connection to IRC.
[06:37] <ArrenLex> catalytic: apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:37] <Troy_McClure> or cool they have a scanmodem tool
[06:37] <cafuego> Troy_McClure: getting a linmodem to work on floppyfw (2.2 kernel) might be pushing it.
[06:37] <ArrenLex> catalytic: then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and use the radeon driver.
[06:38] <Deon|alt> wow this is turning out harder than I thought..
[06:38] <Troy_McClure> ah lol yeah...
[06:38] <catalytic> ok, but i think i already tried something like that
[06:38] <cafuego> Deon|alt: Download floppyfw. Make the floppy, boot it. See what's detected.
[06:38] <davidv> so anyone any ideas?
[06:38] <ArrenLex> Ideas about what?
[06:38] <Deon|alt> cafuego: doing it now :)
[06:39] <davidv> my raid question
[06:39] <ArrenLex> Oh. nope.
[06:39] <davidv> d'oh
[06:39] <CorpseFeeder> I can't work out how to use XawTV and there certainly doesn't appear to be anyway to make it do video capture. I am lost.
[06:39] <L3TUC3> oh
[06:39] <L3TUC3> I guess im now installing an older kernel
[06:39] <Troy_McClure> what is the 6.10 support channel?
[06:39] <catalytic> i do that and i get
[06:40] <catalytic> postinst warning
[06:40] <ArrenLex> Tony: ubuntu+1
[06:40] <catalytic> overwriting possivly-customised configuration
[06:40] <catalytic> even when i use sudo
[06:40] <ArrenLex> catalytic: yes. Have you customised xorg.conf?
[06:40] <L3TUC3> man, I really neec to learn to read
[06:40] <ArrenLex> If so, you should edit manually. If not, feel free to plunge ahead.
[06:40] <andresmujica> david: maybe there's no raid driver for your car in the kernel?  or are you sure that windows is seeing the raid and not only one of the disks??
[06:40] <catalytic> i think i might of
[06:40] <captine> hey all.  running dapper on Presario notebook.  the mouse seems a bit weird (mousepad).  The left click and drag doesn't work properly when moving files/icons.  I have to re-try like 3 times. an newbi. does the mouse function different in Ubuntu that Windows XP?
[06:40] <ArrenLex> Might have *
[06:40] <devilsrejection> hey guys, who is playing around with edgy eft?
[06:41] <ArrenLex> catalytic: then pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, please.
[06:41] <catalytic> can i just rename the xorg.conf to the new one the auto setup
[06:41] <ArrenLex> devilrejection: the people in #ubuntu+1 are.
[06:41] <catalytic> hmm thast going to be hard to do
[06:41] <catalytic> im on my mac
[06:41] <ArrenLex> catalytic: fine, just back up your file, then.
[06:41] <catalytic> and the other computer is the one i cant get xserver
[06:41] <catalytic> to run on
[06:42] <CorpseFeeder> It seems all linux is good for is browsing/email and strange games... As soon as I try to do anything even slightly technical (like wireless networking or audio recording or video capture) it just chokes and dies ;(
[06:43] <Dr_willis> CorpseFeeder,  you need to do more research i think.
[06:43] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, well no, you either have unsupported hardware or haven't learned to us it.
[06:43] <devilsrejection> well the majority of users just do email and browsing
[06:43] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: don't blame Linux. Blame hardware makers who refuse to release specs or drivers.
[06:43] <devilsrejection> no one is in ubuntu+1, where else can i chat with people about edgy eft?
[06:43] <devilsrejection> oh guys you're going to love how the fonts are rendered, they don't look like crap anymore
[06:43] <ArrenLex> Actually, 162 people are in #ubuntu+1, devils.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> The current state of Wireless networking - is a bit of a fiasco under all os's
[06:44] <devilsrejection> yes, but no one is posting
[06:44] <holycow> wireless actually works great on ubuntu
[06:44] <holycow> you just need the correct wireless cards
[06:44] <holycow> they are listed on the wiki infact
[06:44] <Dr_willis> holycow,  i find the whole way wireless works - to be the issue. :)
[06:44] <holycow> video acquisition is fine too, provided you have a supported card
[06:45] <CorpseFeeder> the video hardware is supposedly supported I just can't seem to convince the capture card of that.
[06:45] <holycow> Dr_Fate, people keep on saying that, i keep on buying supported hardware and have no issues
[06:45] <Dr_willis> holycow,  and ive seen several audio-recording studios done  with linmux machines. :)
[06:45] <SuperMigue1> there is way that you can set up an automatically log in on gnome a mean, that when you turn on your computer it wont ask you for a password it will juts go in
[06:45] <Dr_willis> holycow,  i dont mean the specific cards/stuff. i mean HOW the wireless standards are lacking.
[06:46] <holycow> Dr_Fate, willis, neato ... that has been next on my list with respect ot actually getting proper sound capture cards
[06:46] <Dr_willis> SuperMigue1,  check the GDM control panel/tools/tabs i know kde has that feature.. i thought gnome did also.
[06:46] <L3TUC3> ruhroh
[06:46] <holycow> Dr_willis, are they? seems to me that the only thing thats lacking in terms of standards is this latest stuff they are shoving ... x something i forget.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> holycow,  a Linux Journal (I think) magazine showd/built a totally slient recording system
[06:46] <holycow> vendors are releasing hardware for a standard not agreed upon
[06:46] <holycow> poor suckers that buy these things
[06:46] <CorpseFeeder> my card is DC10+ and I've been to this page already http://usuario.cicese.mx/~mirsev/Linux/DC10plus/ and not got anywhere...
[06:47] <holycow> Dr_willis, i'd love to see that article infact
[06:47] <CorpseFeeder> except for errors
[06:47] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, get a new one.
[06:47] <Dr_willis> holycow,  thats  seems to be the history of wireless. :P i recall G stuff comming out prematurely, then ya got the  other variants..  gets me all confused.. so it must really confuse  the commonfolks.
[06:47] <holycow> one with atheros chipset preferably
[06:47] <L3TUC3> aww
[06:47] <L3TUC3> my nvidia driver install failed :(
[06:48] <Dr_willis> holycow,  yea. it had a 'custome made' wooden/desk/case/ for the system.  with water coolers..  No fans/noise at all.
[06:48] <holycow> neat
[06:48] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: why don't you just install from ubuntu packages?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> it was Either Linux Journal or Linux Magazine
[06:48] <holycow> i'd like to know what sound capture card they used and what software for recording
[06:48] <L3TUC3> I did
[06:48] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: and what happened?
[06:48] <L3TUC3> script error
[06:49] <Dr_willis> I think it was some Professional sound card.  :) not sure what.. it may of been in the mag about a year or so ago.
[06:49] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: let's see.
[06:49] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, btw i really don't mean to sound  smug
[06:49] <ArrenLex> willis: may have been *
[06:49] <L3TUC3> 1 sec
[06:49] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, the truth of the matter is that hardware manufactures simply don't want to release hardware specs ... specs are necessary and everyone should have them available
[06:49] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, the microsoft world has taught them to be lazy and greedy
[06:50] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, so what you get now is a situation where you have a ton of hardware out there without specs being released so you are now at the mercy of the manufacturers
[06:50] <SpaceFrog> Whats the best program i can use for viewing/capturing from my Webcam?
[06:50] <holycow> you have NO FREEDOM whatsoever
[06:51] <holycow> and thus you end up with a situation where people not aware of that fact (and why its important to know) trying to get crappy hardware from greedy companies to work on platforms the greedy hardware companies don't want to help out
[06:51] <L3TUC3> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[06:51] <L3TUC3> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[06:51] <L3TUC3> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[06:51] <L3TUC3> command:
[06:51] <L3TUC3> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[06:51] <L3TUC3> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[06:51] <L3TUC3> from nv to nvidia.
[06:51] <CorpseFeeder> I also wanted to try Linux Video Studio from here http://ronald.bitfreak.net/lvs but I can't work out how to get it installed
[06:51] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, so i really mean the suggestion to sound like 'the shortest way to a painless linux experience is researching A LOT what hardware is supported and known to work and then supporting those manufacturers with your buying power
[06:52] <holycow> i know thats not easy for students for example and individuals in certain parts of the world where even dialup is a luxury
[06:52] <L3TUC3> this is after sudo nvidia-glx-config enable btw
[06:52] <Deon|alt> Okay.. I've run floppyfw
[06:52] <Deon|alt> its come to a command-prompt like screen
[06:52] <andresmujica> CorpseFeeder: check this http://mjpeg.sourceforge.net/driver-zoran/cards.php
[06:52] <Deon|alt> # _
[06:53] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: so just change manually. o_O
[06:53] <SAS_Spidey01> Does gnome have any thing like kmix I can use to tweak volumes ?
[06:53] <CorpseFeeder> that doesn't really help me. It's just a page which tells me my card IS supported, but when I try to use it it doesn't work.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> !find mixer
[06:53] <ubotu> Found: alsa-utils, kmix, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, alsamixergui (and 11 others)
[06:53] <L3TUC3> ok, will try
[06:53] <Homer> is Jewbuntu out yet?
[06:53] <andresmujica> CorpseFeeder: modprobe zr36067 and check dmesg so you can see if your card was recognized
[06:54] <Dr_willis> SAS_Spidey01,  thers some gnome mixer.. but i dont rember its command.. I perfer the actual alsa mixers
[06:54] <SAS_Spidey01> Only familer /w OSS but if it works
[06:54] <Deon|alt> what should i do now?
[06:54] <jugg> are there any known problem(s) (under 6.06) with shuting down a system (shutdown -h now) remotely (via ssh) while there are active local sessions (I don't see any reported bugs)?  Even since doing that, on boot I get an error: "mount: Mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed: No such device"  Although /dev/hda3 is valid, and can be mounted when booting from a livecd.  Any suggestions on where to start l
[06:54] <jugg> ooking?
[06:55] <kairu0> hi all
[06:55] <SAS_Spidey01> hello
[06:55] <kairu0> hey SAS_Spidey01
[06:55] <kairu0> quick question: what is the easiest way to mount a remote linux filesystem from my ubuntu box
[06:56] <L3TUC3> ah
[06:56] <L3TUC3> the file is read only
[06:56] <ArrenLex> kairu0: The absolutely easiest way? fish. It requires nothing on either the server or the client.
[06:56] <Madpilot> Homer, not funny. Be polite, or go away.
[06:56] <andresmujica> CorpseFeeder: then you can install xawtv mjpeg
[06:56] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: of course. Edit it with sudo.
[06:56] <SAS_Spidey01> Mmm, been wanting to see what fltk widgets looked like
[06:56] <L3TUC3> hokay
[06:56] <kairu0> ArrenLex, fish is a package?
[06:57] <ArrenLex> Fish is a protocol.
[06:57] <ArrenLex> !fish
[06:57] <ubotu> fish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.20.0-1 (dapper), package size 355 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[06:57] <ArrenLex> No, not that fish.
[06:57] <L3TUC3> so how can i change a file from read only if I do not own it?
[06:57] <CorpseFeeder> I have xawtv installed already. And where do I find dmesg
[06:57] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: don't change the file to be writeable! Just edit it with sudo.
[06:57] <Madpilot> L3TUC3, if you don't own it and it's read only, the system probably likes it that way...
[06:58] <L3TUC3> hmm
[06:58] <L3TUC3> ok
[06:58] <L3TUC3> sudo is still new to me
[06:58] <andresmujica> CorpseFeeder: you need to open a console and run dmesg or look for ksystemlog or gsystemlog (don't know which one from gnome)
[06:58] <SAS_Spidey01> Thanks Dr_willis thats much better
[06:58] <ArrenLex> kairu: do you need to have the filesystem mounted? Or do you only need to send files to it?
[06:59] <Nox2k3> So, I'm working on Plan B at the moment, and my fglrx driver seems to want X.org 7.0.-1.8 and I have 7.1.1.0
[06:59] <Dr_willis> SAS_Spidey01,  my soundblaster audigy card has like 40 sliders.. :) it goes across 3 monitors...
[06:59] <L3TUC3> hmm
[06:59] <Nox2k3> Does anyone know how to fix this particular problem?
[06:59] <L3TUC3> how do I sudo this file then?
[06:59] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: in the terminal, type "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:00] <kairu0> ArrenLex, i need to mount it
[07:00] <ArrenLex> L3: then go down to the line that says "Driver" "nv" and change "nv" to "nvidia"
[07:00] <SAS_Spidey01> I didn't count it, but there's plenty hehe
[07:00] <ArrenLex> kairu0: then I guess ssh.
[07:00] <Davey> Can I do a mirrored raid with 120+40GB = 160GB, and 2*80GB drives?
[07:00] <kairu0> ArrenLex, sshfs?
[07:00] <kishore> hi all
[07:00] <ArrenLex> kairu0: yes. Here's a guide if you need one: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[07:00] <CorpseFeeder> i see a lot of stuff output from dmesg... what am I looking for?
[07:00] <kishore> i had installed eclipse on my box
[07:00] <devilsrejection> so do you guys think the ubuntu guys will ever make things easy for people trying to play back content? as in mp3's mov's xvid/divx etc
[07:01] <SAS_Spidey01> Nice not to have to install drivers for my audigy 4 ether
[07:01] <kishore> showing some errors like this....
[07:01] <kishore> JVM terminated. Exit code=1
[07:01] <kishore> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[07:01] <kishore> -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni
[07:01] <kishore> -Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.1/classmap.db
[07:01] <kishore> -Dgnu.gcj.runtime.VMClassLoader.library_control=never
[07:01] <kairu0> ArrenLex, thankx
[07:01] <kishore> -Dosgi.locking=none
[07:01] <kishore> -jar /usr/share/eclipse/startup.jar
[07:01] <kishore> -os linux
[07:01] <kishore> -ws gtk
[07:01] <Example5> Alright, I'm having some serious trouble trying to configure xserver under 6.06. It won't start up because I had to format the harddrive on another computer and do the installation there due to some issues with it hanging up during the partioning on the other computer. So when I tried to configure xserver-xorg, it says its not there. And when I try to apt-get it get a parsing error and it stops. Anything I try after t
[07:01] <kishore> -arch x86
[07:01] <kishore> -launcher /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse
[07:01] <kishore> -name Eclipse
[07:01] <kishore> -showsplash 600
[07:01] <ArrenLex> !flood
[07:01] <kishore> -exitdata 160014
[07:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:01] <kishore> -install /usr/share/eclipse
[07:01] <kishore> -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[07:01] <ArrenLex> STOP IT, KISHORE
[07:01] <kishore> -vmargs
[07:01] <Lam_> how do i connect to WPA2 enabled networks in KDE?
[07:01] <kishore> -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni
[07:01] <kishore> -Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.1/classmap.db
[07:01] <ArrenLex> !ops
[07:01] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:01] <kishore> -Dgnu.gcj.runtime.VMClassLoader.library_control=never
[07:01] <kishore> -Dosgi.locking=none
[07:01] <kishore> -jar /usr/share/eclipse/startup.jar
[07:01] <devilsrejection> Example5, just reformat the machine, takes 15 minutes to install ubuntu
[07:02] <Madpilot> kishore, I'll unmute you in 5 minutes.
[07:02] <CorpseFeeder> i dont see gsystemlog or whatever anywhere
[07:02] <Example5> I can't, the computer will hang up
[07:02] <devilsrejection> then you have a hardware issue my friend
[07:02] <Example5> I had to put it on another machine to format and install, then move the harddrive to that machine
[07:02] <devilsrejection> fix your machine first
[07:02] <jugg> any input on where to start looking for a solution when on boot this error shows up but /dev/hda3 can be verified valid from a livecd? "mount: Mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed: No such device"
[07:02] <Example5> Everything else seems to be fine about it
[07:03] <Example5> It can run the live cd and such, but dies during formatting
[07:03] <devilsrejection> if it hangs during an install it isn't fine
[07:03] <L3TUC3> hmm, how can i edit the file in sudo nano?
[07:03] <devilsrejection> run the standard memory and hard drive tests
[07:03] <Example5> The harddrive and memory is fine
[07:04] <CorpseFeeder> I think my capture card must be detected. I just can't make it work for whatever reason.
[07:04] <Example5> I've been through several old harddrives because I though somethign was wrong
[07:04] <sryan__> Are the mirrors broke?
[07:04] <sryan__> I keep getting a gzip error code.
[07:04] <sryan__> on one of them.
[07:04] <suff0kate> anyone know how to work a philips mp3 player up on ubuntu?
[07:04] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: if you don't understand nano, use "sudo gedit"
[07:05] <Madpilot> sryan__, mirrors break sometimes; try the main repo
[07:05] <devilsrejection> we, then test your ram
[07:05] <dbzdeath> i'm having some very annoying troubles with my new sound card which is an audigy value using the ca0106 driver my audio gets all crackly and laggy when there is a bit of cpu usage and it happens when xmms is set to use the alsa or the oss driver i still get the same problem could someone please help me?
[07:05] <Example5> The computer might be at the end of its life
[07:05] <L3TUC3> ah
[07:05] <L3TUC3> it opens a new file
[07:06] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: it shouldn't. "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:06] <L3TUC3> woopsie, forgot the root /
[07:07] <L3TUC3> excellent, that worked
[07:07] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: now change the line "Driver" "nv" to "Driver" "nvidia"
[07:07] <Example5> The harddrive and the memory are fine, replaced the ides. Everything I could think of. Unless something is terribly wrong with the mother board.
[07:07] <DirtyOmlet> hi all
[07:08] <SAS_Spidey01> Does everyone else get funky lines when they edit a line in Mozilla browsers???
[07:08] <ArrenLex> L3: Sorry, no quotes around Driver.
[07:08] <ArrenLex> SAS: edit a line?
[07:08] <mister_roboto> can someone describe the difference between the "toolame" and "lame" utilities?
[07:08] <CorpseFeeder> lets forget about getting nowhere with my unsolvable capture card problems for a moment... I have a mic connected to a soundblaster PCI64 card which is permanently stuck on 0% volume and records silence in Sound Recorder. Do you think it would be possible to get this mic working?
[07:09] <L3TUC3> hooray!
[07:09] <L3TUC3> it worked
[07:09] <ArrenLex> mister_roboto: toolame = mp2. lame = mp3.
[07:09] <SAS_Spidey01> Such as moving the cursor back over a word to edit some thing you just typed when using a formfill e.t.c.
[07:09] <SAS_Spidey01> it looks like shadows of the cursor stick on screen
[07:09] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: what is the diff between those formats?
[07:10] <ArrenLex> mister_roboto: wikipedia would better answer that, I think.
[07:10] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: thanks :)
[07:10] <ArrenLex> Basically mp3 is a better format. mp2 is older.
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> Why would tightvncserver return "A VNC server is already running as :0" if vino and any process containing vnc are not running?
[07:10] <ArrenLex> roboto: MP2 is a sub-band audio encoder, which means that compression takes place in the time domain. By comparison, MP3 is a transform audio encoder, which means that compression takes place in the frequency domain after transformation from the time domain.
[07:10] <ArrenLex> Does that help?
[07:10] <ArrenLex> (from the mp2 wikipedia entry)
[07:11] <ArrenLex> The MP2 encoder does not exploit interchannel redundancies. This makes MP2 less efficient than MP3 on low bitrates (lower than 256 kbit/s). For example, a 128 kbit/s MP3 encoded audio usually sounds, to the human ear, truer to the original source than the same audio encoded as 192 kbit/s MP2.
[07:11] <ArrenLex> And so on.
[07:11] <Example5> Okay, this computer is really getting to me
[07:11] <SAS_Spidey01> makes mozilla browsers very hard to read when using search bars & forums
[07:11] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: well... i was really wondering if anyone had experience encoding to both and if the diff was really all that noticeable
[07:11] <Example5> 5.10 live works, 6.06 live stalls. and the install for both versions I have hang up at 9% during the partioning
[07:12] <ArrenLex> tony: 'cause you're already running a vnc server, I'm assuming. ps -A | grep vnc?
[07:12] <Example5> But, I can do a full installation with the harddrive on another computer no problems
[07:12] <ArrenLex> mister: what are you considering encoding?
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> ArrenLex: Did ps aux | grep vnc AND ps aux | grep vino and came up with nothing.
[07:13] <L3TUC3> ok, now that 3d harware is on, lets go and see about xgl and compiz
[07:13] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: some music files that i ripped form a cd. used lame before but never used toolame
[07:13] <wendell> good night
[07:13] <ArrenLex> mister: why not ogg?
[07:13] <wendell> Guys, I need help.
[07:13] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: i'd like to play it on an ipod (my wife's actually). does ipod do ogg?
[07:14] <wendell> I tried to install drivers for Nvidia card, and I need to set
[07:14] <wendell> a enviroment variable to gcc3.4
[07:14] <ArrenLex> mister: I'm assuming no. Why not mp3?
[07:14] <ArrenLex> wendell: why not install nvidia drivers from ubuntu repos?
[07:14] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: was just looking at toolame because lame isn't in the ubuntu repos
[07:14] <CorpseFeeder> I guess mic problems are insolvable too.
[07:15] <ArrenLex> tony: then I guess you have a lock file that's left over from a previous vnc session.
[07:15] <ArrenLex> mister: lame's in multiverse, I believe.
[07:15] <ArrenLex> !lame
[07:15] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Yep.
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> ArrenLex: Looks like that's the case; we're trying removing that now.
[07:15] <wendell> How, please?
[07:16] <tritium> !nvidia
[07:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:16] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: ahhh, it's just not in edgy then
[07:16] <wendell> What repo I find it?
[07:16] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: i have multiverse but i'm running edgy
[07:16] <Jbirk> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:16] <tritium> wendell: read that URL above
[07:16] <eegore> I tried installing XGL and now my direct rendering is not working
[07:16] <ArrenLex> mister: add a dapper line, then, to /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:16] <CorpseFeeder> getting back to video capturing... apparently mplayer will do video capture too. I don't see any option in mplayer for anything other than playback. Capturing from a device is not an apparent option. So how would I capture video with mplayer if indeed it really does do video capture?
[07:16] <DirtyOmlet> hey anyone have issues when trying to fulfull dependencies in edgy?
[07:16] <wendell> Version breezy
[07:16] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: good idea :)
[07:16] <Jbirk> then edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia" and restart X
[07:16] <ArrenLex> eegore: they might be able to help you more in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:17] <Blippe> mister_roboto, edgy is in #ubuntu+1
[07:17] <mister_roboto> Blippe: yes, i know. was asking about toolame vs lame, mainly
[07:17] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: I suggest "man mplayer", for it is God unto all manpages.
[07:17] <wendell> OK, its running.
[07:18] <ArrenLex> mister: I strongly believe that encoding all yours songs to mp2 format is a worse solution than adding a line to a text file =P
[07:18] <eegore> ArrenLex: a lot of sleepers but no help
[07:19] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: point taken :)    does apt-get use the first line in sources.list in which it finds a match?
[07:19] <ArrenLex> mister_roboto: apt-get will use the most recent version of a package available to it.
[07:19] <ozzloy> how do i fix gvim copy and paste by clicking
[07:19] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: ok, great.   thanks
[07:19] <wendell> OK. I'm trying to install 3ddesk under Breezy, and get this when running Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[07:19] <wendell> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[07:19] <wendell> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[07:20] <ArrenLex> wendell: do you have direct rendering?
[07:20] <wendell> What I have to do to correct it.
[07:20] <ArrenLex> What's the output of glxinfo | grep Dire
[07:20] <ArrenLex> Sorry, that's | grep dire
[07:20] <ArrenLex> glxinfo | grep dire
[07:20] <ArrenLex> wendell: and also glxinfo | grep renderer
[07:21] <wendell>  glxinfo | grep renderer
[07:21] <wendell> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:21] <ArrenLex> wendell: did you install the proper drivers for your card?
[07:21] <ArrenLex> nvidia for nvidia and fglrx for ati?
[07:21] <Jbirk> I don't have Direct Rendering, yet I have XGL running
[07:21] <Jbirk> Can you explain?
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: What's the output of your glxinfo | grep renderer?
[07:22] <wendell> I'm have an FX 5200
[07:22] <Jbirk> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: there you go. You have 3D acceleration.
[07:22] <wendell> I have an FX5200.
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: direct rendering might be something different. Thanks; I'll stop asking for it.
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Wendell: what kind of card is that?
[07:23] <Davey> How is Ubuntu with HFS+ ?
[07:23] <ozzloy> when i highlight stuff in gvim and then right click elsewhere, it doesn't paste what i highlighted.  how do i fix that?
[07:23] <Jbirk> I thought I have XGL and Beryl running
[07:23] <ArrenLex> !hfs
[07:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:23] <Jbirk> It rusn fantastic
[07:23] <emmanuel_> hey there is a kind of eraser for ubuntu
[07:23] <emmanuel_> ?
[07:23] <Jbirk> I wanted to build a cheap, ubnuntu friendly computer
[07:23] <emmanuel_> or cleaner
[07:23] <ArrenLex> ozzjoy: you mean, middle click?
[07:23] <wendell> I need to enable hardware acceleration. How?
[07:23] <Jbirk> Does anyone know a good, cheap wireless card that works with Dapper out of the box.  i.e. no driver required
[07:23] <ArrenLex> emmanuel: what are you trying to clean?
[07:24] <Nox2k3> Hey does anyone know what I can do about  the [R200Setup]  X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.1.1.0, required X.org 7.0.-1.8?
[07:24] <Nox2k3> I'm using fglrx 8.25.18
[07:24] <emmanuel_> history files mozilla
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Nox: downgrade?
[07:24] <emmanuel_> tracks
[07:24] <Nox2k3> 7.0.-1?
[07:24] <Nox2k3> it wants a -1 version?
[07:24] <ArrenLex> emmanuel: just clear private data in mozilla.
[07:24] <Jbirk> NOx, I would do this
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Nox: no, it doesn't want a -1 version, it wasn't a 7.0 to .1 version.
[07:24] <captine> hi all  sudo apt-get install wine tells me that wine cannot be found.  any ideas?
[07:24] <ArrenLex> i.e. 7.0 to 7.1
[07:24] <Jbirk> apt-get remove xserver-xorg
[07:24] <Jbirk> then delete
[07:24] <Linuxactivist> ozzloy, in linux you paste by either middle button clicking (pressing on the scroll wheel in most cases) or by "chord" pressing bothe the left and right mouse at the same time in order to simulate a middle button.
[07:24] <captine> I've enabled every repository i could find
[07:24] <Jbirk> then
[07:24] <Jbirk> apt-get install xserver-xorg
[07:25] <wendell> I got this    glxinfo | grep renderer
[07:25] <wendell> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:25] <Jbirk> and configure it from scratch
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: what on earth is the point of that?
[07:25] <Jbirk> To fix his Xserver problem
[07:25] <ArrenLex> wendell: what is your card? nvidia? ati?
[07:25] <Jbirk> It worekd for me
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: why not just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:25] <Jbirk> I had a situation where XGL would not run no matter what
[07:25] <Jbirk> I tried that and it didn't work for me once
[07:25] <wendell> Nvidia FX5200 128MB
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: or even apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg?
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Ah. Are you using the nvidia driver?
[07:26] <Jbirk> ArrenLex, that may work
[07:26] <Nox2k3> alright, downgrading would require me to tell apt to not install 7.1.1, and I'm not sure how to do that
[07:26] <Nox2k3> theres a guide i imagine though..
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Nox: apt-pinning. Google for it.
[07:26] <Nox2k3> ah, thanks for saving some time
[07:26] <wendell> I install under it apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:26] <Troy_McClure> bleh... trying to remember the name of that script that automatically detects and mounts windows drives, anyone know??
[07:26] <Byan> how do I install a printer from a shell?
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Or here, I'll google for it. http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[07:26] <Nox2k3> thanks for even more time saving
[07:26] <captine> !wine
[07:26] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:26] <CorpseFeeder> "man mplayer" gives me over 7000 lines of stuff I couldn't possible search through in a day. Isn't there an easier way to view that info like in a text editor window or browser window?
[07:27] <Davey> CorpseFeeder: try man mplayer | grep "search term"
[07:27] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: of course. man mplayer > /tmp/mplayer and then you can just gedit /tmp/mplayer
[07:27] <Davey> yeah,  was about to say that :)
[07:27] <Davey> !lfs
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <Jbirk> Sorry for any bad advice
[07:27] <Davey> !lvm
[07:27] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:27] <Jbirk> What is a good, cheap wireless card that will work out of the box?
[07:28] <Jbirk> I need them to be PCI
[07:28] <ArrenLex> !wireless
[07:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:28] <Linuxactivist> CorpseFeeder: man mplayer | lpr
[07:28] <wendell> I had downloaded the drivers for nvidia site. When I tried to install, the installer told me to change the environment variable to change the version of gcc to 3.4 I have both the 3.4 and 4.0 versions
[07:28] <Jbirk> and I am boing to buy 2
[07:28] <Linuxactivist> sends it to the printer
[07:28] <holycow> wendell, don't every use that installer
[07:28] <holycow> !nvidia
[07:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:28] <ArrenLex> CoprseFeeder: don't print the man page, please.
[07:28] <holycow> please use that information, it will make your life easier
[07:28] <dibblego> is it possible to use acidrip to rip a DVD without director commentary?
[07:28] <Byan> >_<
[07:29] <Byan> someone want to not ignore me, or at least tell me they don't know
[07:29] <wendell> holicow: What I have to do so?
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Byan: don't know what?
[07:29] <Byan> how to install a printer from the shell
[07:29] <Linuxactivist> Byan: what's the problem again?
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Byan: be more specific. What printing subsystem? What does the driver look like?
[07:29] <Jbirk> Can someone do me a favor and give me a NewEgg link to a good Dapper Wireless card?
[07:30] <Linuxactivist> printer from shell... not sure.  never done it.  I know that it is a pain.  I always do it graphically, even on the solaris boxes that I manage.
[07:30] <Jbirk> All I need is a cheap 802.11G card
[07:30] <Jbirk> that will just work
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: how about google?
[07:30] <Byan> ArrenLex: I don't know...
[07:30] <dibblego> Jbirk, Netgear WG511v2 (note not WG511v3)
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Byan: okay, have you already found a driver for your printer? Have you already installed a print system?
[07:31] <Byan> I have an OfficeJet 4315
[07:31] <ArrenLex> HP?
[07:31] <Byan> yeah
[07:31] <Byan> print system? not to my knoledge
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Byan: you need the hpijs package, for starters.
[07:31] <Linuxactivist> Byan: why do you have to install it from the shell.  Why can't you use the graphical tools?
[07:31] <Byan> Linuxactivist: it's a headless server
[07:32] <ozzloy> Linuxactivist: sorry, that's what i meant
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Byan: what's the output of `which lpr`?
[07:32] <ozzloy> that's not working in gvim for me.  i can do it with everything else
[07:32] <Byan> ArrenLex: /usr/bin/lpr
[07:33] <Linuxactivist> ozzloy: Are you making sure you are in edit mode before pasting to gvi?
[07:33] <Linuxactivist> gvim?
[07:33] <ArrenLex> Byan: install the hplip package.
[07:33] <holycow> ozzloy, why not use nano? its is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar easier than vim or anything else
[07:33] <holycow> the instructions on how to use it are one line on the bottom of nano
[07:34] <Byan> both hpijs and hplip?
[07:34] <ozzloy> Linuxactivist: yeah, it's pasting what was in the buffer before i highlight
[07:34] <ozzloy> so basically highlighting isn't updating the paste buffer
[07:34] <ArrenLex> Byan: Sorry, I lied. You only need hlpip if it's a scanner.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> Byan: for printer only, hpijs
[07:34] <ozzloy> holycow: haven't used nano enough, but i like gvim
[07:34] <Byan> >_<
[07:34] <Byan> wait
[07:34] <Byan> oh, thats a typo
[07:34] <Byan> ok, so.. I install both..
[07:35] <Byan> should I remove one? or does it even matter?
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Byan: you don't need hplip. Remove it.
[07:35] <Byan> ArrenLex: it has a scanner on it though..
[07:35] <holycow> byan its a multifunction unit from hp?
[07:35] <holycow> ouch
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Byan: oh; then just install hplip.
[07:35] <holycow> those rarely are without issue
[07:36] <Byan> ArrenLex: >_<
[07:36] <ArrenLex> holycow: really? I have one and it works beautifully out of the box.
[07:36] <Byan> so now install hplip and uninstall the other one?
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Byan: should have been more specific as to what you had! =P
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Byan: yes. hplip only.
[07:36] <holycow> if you want a multifunction unit that actually is supported on linx try brother ... they have redhat AND debian packages of their drivers
[07:36] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: fyi, i only had multiverse enabled for backports. that was my problem. "lame" is still in multiverse in edgy :)
[07:36] <Byan> ArrenLex: hplip will be able to print and scan then?
[07:36] <holycow> ArrenLex, hp does a great job with printer drivers, but for any of their other peripherals ... they do a crappy job
[07:37] <holycow> particularly hp scanners are not supported well under linux
[07:37] <ArrenLex> ByanL yes.
[07:37] <ArrenLex> holycow: I've not experienced a problem with the multifunction and the HP scanner.
[07:37] <holycow> 'the' and 'the'
[07:37] <Byan> ArrenLex: alright, now what?
[07:37] <KEA0463> sup geeks
[07:37] <holycow> how many do you own?
[07:37] <KEA0463> sup
[07:37] <holycow> i have gone through hundreds
[07:37] <ArrenLex> Byan: apt-get install cupsys cupsys-bsd
[07:37] <holycow> and i even have one old hp scanner that actually works too
[07:38] <ozzloy> sup KEA0463
[07:38] <Byan> ArrenLex: those are already installed
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Byan: it should tell you that you'll have to remove the lpr package. This is fine.
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Good.
[07:39] <Byan> hmm, I should prolly plug the thing in before I do any more...
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Byan: while I try to figure out how to set up printing from the command line, you can play around with the "scanimage" command to scan =P
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Byan: that would help!
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Byan: to use the scanimage command, install sane-utils package.
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Byan: tell me when you've plugged it in.
[07:40] <ozzloy> how do i get gvim to update the paste buffer when i highlight stuff so i can paste it by middle click?
[07:40] <keltorsori> anyone ever seen "menu item 'pkgsel' failed on an install?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> keltorsori: is this a configure script? Or a debian package install?
[07:41] <wendell> Thanks for the help. I had installed the drivers ans nvidia-xconfig from the site and now my 3ddesk runs great. Thanks!
[07:41] <ArrenLex> wendell: enjoy!
[07:41] <keltorsori> fresh daily install
[07:41] <keltorsori> Arrenlex: fresh daily (edgy) install
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Oh! An ubuntu OS install!
[07:41] <ArrenLex> That's different.
[07:42] <ArrenLex> keltorsori: that's definitely not normal. All I can tell you is not to use the dailies if you don't want to encounter bugs.
[07:42] <keltorsori> ArrenLex: bug i submitted in the install got fixed in the new daily, but now i'm getting to the final package installation phase and failing at around 8% with ""menu item 'pkgsel' failed" in the console
[07:42] <ihatetripe> This is a really really rubbish question. How would I get an application (amarok specifically) to launch automatically as soon as a user logs in?
[07:42] <ArrenLex> keltorsori: have you tried switching over to the error log terminal and seeing what it tells you?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> ihateripe: KDE or GNOME?
[07:43] <ihatetripe> xfce :)
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Oh. xD
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Crap.
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Google for "application auto-start xfce"
[07:43] <wendell> ArrenLex: Its very cool!
[07:43] <ihatetripe> Thanks ArrenLex
[07:43] <keltorsori> ArrenLex: Alt-4 basically gives that to me (it's around the xorg stuff)
[07:43] <reid> Does anyone know anything about 3D desktop? http://sourceforge.net/projects/desk3d
[07:44] <holycow> reid, depends, what do you want to know?
[07:44] <ArrenLex> keltorsori: can you try installing xorg manually?
[07:44] <holycow> !aiglx
[07:44] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[07:44] <reid> holycow I want to know if it is stable, and if not- is there anything else like it
[07:44] <Byan> ArrenLex: alright, it's plugged in
[07:44] <holycow> not stable, don't bother
[07:45] <holycow> just use plain jane gnome with regular nvidia/ati drivers
[07:45] <holycow> !ati
[07:45] <holycow> !nvidia
[07:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:45] <Byan> and sane-utils is installing
[07:45] <Byan> and is now done
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Byan: good to hear. Summary: make sure you have all of these: "cupsys-bsd cupsys hplip sane-utils sane" packages installed.
[07:45] <reid> cool- thanks holycow
[07:45] <holycow> np
[07:46] <ArrenLex> No, wait, you don't need sane.
[07:46] <Byan> >_<
[07:46] <Search4Lancer> has anyone here tried upgrading to Firefox 2.0 yet?
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Wait.
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Did sane-utils automatically install sane?
[07:46] <Byan> no
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Then you don't need it.
[07:46] <holycow> Search4Lancer, whats to upgrade
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Sorry. I really should stop giving advice now.
[07:47] <holycow> Search4Lancer, download, extract, doubleclick on the binary
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Byan: turn the printer on.
[07:47] <Byan> ArrenLex: it's on
[07:47] <keltorsori> ArrenLex: considering it's a straight OS install, don't think so. It's a daily, so I'm not too worried, but as we're getting closer to the release, trying to hunt the bugs all i can
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Byan: paste the output of scanimage -L
[07:47] <Search4Lancer> holycow: if only it were that easy!
[07:47] <holycow> it is
[07:47] <holycow> whats the problem?
[07:48] <Byan> No scanners identified and then a bunch of text telling me what to do if I didn't expect that
[07:48] <ArrenLex> ...odd.
[07:48] <Sir_Brizz> Does anyone have any spare official Warty CDs?
[07:48] <Search4Lancer> holycow: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:48] <holycow> make sure that is installed, search for it
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Search4: you don't launch firefox-bin directly. The command you're looking for is ./firefox
[07:48] <Byan>   # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by
[07:48] <Byan>   # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.
[07:49] <Byan> thats the output of sane-find-scanner
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Byan: hold on, I'm looking. What's the model again?
[07:49] <Byan> 4315
[07:49] <Search4Lancer> ArrenLex: bashing firefox gives me: (firefox-bin:17042): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:50] <Search4Lancer> how it knows my ZIP code I have no idea :-D
[07:51] <tom{}bigTC> when you use add/remove problems where does it save the stuff it download, because I used it to get frozen-bubble and I missed up the opitions so I want to be able to start over with it
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Byan: oh wow. That sucks. You're going to have to upgrade hplip.
[07:51] <Byan> upgrade from the one on the universe?
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Byan: Nono. That one is even older.
[07:52] <Byan> erm, I said that wrong...
[07:52] <Byan> ArrenLex: how do I figure out which version I have?>
[07:52] <ArrenLex> Byan: you need 0.9.11 at least to run your printer. The one in ubuntu's repos is 0.9.7
[07:53] <Byan> ArrenLex: alright, you gonna guide me? or should I just go on my own on installing that?
[07:53] <ArrenLex> Byan: if it's a server, are you sure you can't run debian testing? It's a lot more up to date than ubuntu, I find.
[07:53] <ArrenLex> Although I'm going to get stoned to death for that.
[07:54] <ArrenLex> Byan: let me consider the best way to get you set.
[07:55] <ArrenLex> Byan: sorry for all the misleading instructions up there.
[07:55] <Byan> lol, don't worry about it
[07:56] <Byan> ArrenLex: should I install 1.6.9 or should I keep to the .9.11?
[07:56] <CorpseFeeder> ok I am thouroughly confused by the man pages for mplayer. I think video capture using mplayer has something to do with mplay -tv something blah blah... but It's a bit beyond me.
[07:56] <eclipse75> got an issue with creox
[07:57] <ArrenLex> Byan: hold on, let me figure things out.
[07:57] <Byan> ok =/
[07:57] <eclipse75> i plugged my guitar into the mic input, yet cant figure out why creox isnt picking it up? or will it even pick up mic input?
[07:57] <Nihil1985> hi
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Byan: okay, you should use this console-based installer: http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/hplip/hplip-1.6.9.run
[07:58] <Nihil1985> how can i write in fstab a  samba shared folder?
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Byan: go to a shell and use wget to get that on your no-gui box.
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Byan: then run it. It should set you up. Remember to remove hplip from ubuntu first.
[07:58] <Byan> ArrenLex: yeah, alright, you sure I want 1.6.9?
[07:59] <Byan> is there a reason the distro's are still using .9.x?
[07:59] <ArrenLex> Byan: my math is rusty but, to me, 1.6.9 >= 0.9.11, so you should be good.
[07:59] <thoreauputic> ArrenLex: would it not be easier all round to do " sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then access the box at http://hostname:631 to set up cups?
[07:59] <ArrenLex> Byan: they're just old packages. Debian testing and unstable has 1.6.9, as does ubuntu edgy.
[07:59] <Byan> ArrenLex: kk
[07:59] <ArrenLex> thoreauputic: not without the driver he needs to print.
[08:00] <thoreauputic> ArrenLex: how are you so sure he doesn't have the driver ? Most are installed by default
[08:00] <ArrenLex> thoreauputic: the HP scanning and printing driver is hplip. His printer requires hplip 0.9.11 or greater. The one in dapper is 0.9.7. Thus, he needs to manually get a newer version.
[08:01] <thoreauputic> ArrenLex: ah OK - missed that bit :)
[08:02] <Byan> ArrenLex: you sure I only need that file?
[08:02] <Byan> it's rather small...
[08:02] <ArrenLex> Byan: 9.5 MB is small?
[08:03] <Byan> O_o
[08:03] <Byan> I think it may have downloaded html.., bleh
[08:03] <Nihil1985> how can i write a samba shared folder in fstab after i mounted it??
[08:03] <ArrenLex> Byan: I gave you the link right to the file =P
[08:03] <ArrenLex> http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/hplip/hplip-1.6.9.run
[08:03] <MyGhetek> how do i give a user full read/write access to a directory in command prompt?
[08:04] <flannel> MyGhetek: which directory?
[08:04] <shriphani> MyGhetek, chmod u+x dir
[08:04] <flannel> shriphani: no, that's wrong.
[08:04] <shriphani> :(
[08:04] <Byan> ArrenLex: well, if I would've downloaded it off of umn, it would've been done in 2 seconds, cause I am connected by i2 to them
[08:04] <MyGhetek> flannel: /var/www
[08:04] <ArrenLex> Oh. Go ahead.
[08:05] <ArrenLex> I just use that mirror because it works for me. YMMV.
[08:05] <flannel> MyGhetek: which user?  Probably you'd want to add them to www-data group
[08:05] <MyGhetek> the user is called ghetek
[08:05] <Byan> how do I make in executable again >_<
[08:05] <flannel> MyGhetek: as a rule of thumb, chmodding or chowning a directory isn't the correct way to resolve permission issues
[08:05] <ozzloy> how do i make gvim update the paste buffer when i highlight text with the mouse??
[08:06] <MyGhetek> flannel: i already ran sudo chmod u+r /var/www
[08:06] <MyGhetek> flannel: how do i undo that then?
[08:07] <flannel> MyGhetek: actually, that shouldn't have done anything, since everything in there is readable by default
[08:07] <flannel> MyGhetek: so, you needn't undo it ;)
[08:07] <MyGhetek> ah!
[08:07] <Nihil1985> how can i write a samba shared folder in fstab after i mounted it??
[08:07] <MyGhetek> but how do i add teh ghetek user to the www-data group?
[08:07] <acehigh> sup everyone
[08:07] <MyGhetek> btw flannel, you're awesome
[08:08] <flannel> MyGhetek: are you just copying something there?
[08:08] <Byan> ArrenLex: Would you like to install HPLIP (desktop/recommended) or HPIJS only (server/printing only)
[08:08] <Byan> will the latter be fine?
[08:08] <flannel> MyGhetek: or is this going to be a regular writing thing?
[08:08] <kmu> why does this work: sudo zcat /var/log/auth.log* | grep fail
[08:08] <phargle> pfft
[08:08] <Fke> hey, i have an .iso file right, and i copied it to my USB drive, how can i make it boot from it?
[08:08] <MyGhetek> yes, i already installed ftpd and im getting the following permission error in my ftp client "550 Can't create directory: Permission denied"
[08:08] <kmu> but sudo zcat /var/log/auth.log* | grep fail > asdf
[08:09] <flannel> MyGhetek: ah, ok.  So eyah,you need to add it to the group
[08:09] <kmu> gives me a zcat: /var/log/auth.log: not in gzip format error
[08:09] <ArrenLex> Byan: I thought you wanted to scan? Need hplip for that.
[08:09] <MyGhetek> flannel: so im guessing this will start with sudo...
[08:09] <Nihil1985> how can i write a samba shared folder in fstab after i mounted it??
[08:09] <acehigh> I'm a old debian user and was wondering if ubuntu had a testing version just debian does? if so what is a good location for documentation?
[08:10] <ArrenLex> acehigh: the current beta version is edgy. It's, if you will "testing".
[08:10] <Byan> warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: python-devel (python-devel - Python development files)
[08:10] <Byan> heh
[08:10] <acehigh> ArrenLex: where is the source.list file located?
[08:10] <Byan> it only tells me one...
[08:10] <ArrenLex> Byan: apt-get install ptthon-dev
[08:10] <dibblego> acehigh, /etc/apt
[08:10] <ArrenLex> acehigh: same place. /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <ArrenLex> python-dev
[08:10] <ArrenLex> (@byan)
[08:10] <acehigh> cool thanks :)
[08:11] <acehigh> it use to be under /etc is why i was wonderin :P
[08:11] <guest132> can someone please help me install the GoogleEarthLinux.bin file that's on my desktop?(newbie)
[08:11] <Byan> oh..
[08:11] <Byan> yay
[08:11] <ArrenLex> acehigh: it was never under /etc. I've used debian since woody and ubuntu since hoary.
[08:11] <Byan> The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-dev: Depends: python2.4-dev (>= 2.4.2) but it is not going to be installed
[08:11] <Byan> E: Broken packages
[08:12] <ArrenLex> And what happens if you try to apt-get install python2.4-dev?
[08:12] <Byan> The following packages have unmet dependencies: python2.4-dev: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.4.3-0ubuntu4) but 2.4.3-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[08:12] <Byan> E: Broken packages
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Oh god.
[08:12] <eclipse75> what audio driver is ubuntu using? alsa?
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Eclipse, yes.
[08:12] <acehigh> ArrenLex: so replace dapper with edgy?
[08:12] <eclipse75> k thanks =)
[08:12] <ArrenLex> acehigh: if you want the beta release, yeah.
[08:12] <acehigh> cool
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Byan: you don't have edgy in your sources.list, do you? That would be a problem.
[08:13] <Byan> uhm.. no..
[08:14] <ArrenLex> Byan: have you run apt-get update recently?
[08:14] <Byan> yeah
[08:14] <Nihil1985> how can i write a samba shared folder in fstab after i mounted it?? i want to make it start with the pc
[08:14] <Byan> depends on how recently is recently..
[08:14] <ArrenLex> Byan: run apt-get update
[08:14] <Byan> ArrenLex: fixed it
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Nihil: why don't you just google "mount samba fstab"
[08:15] <flannel> MyGhetek: sorry.  sudo useradd -G www-data ghetek should do it
[08:15] <Byan> warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: libusb (libusb - USB library)
[08:15] <Fke> hey, i have an .iso file right, and i copied it to my USB drive, how can i make the file (.iso) boot from it?
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Byan: apt-get install libusb-0.1-4
[08:16] <MyGhetek> useradd: user ghetek exists
[08:16] <Byan> ...
[08:16] <Byan> libusb-0.1-4 is already the newest version.
[08:16] <MyGhetek> flannel: useradd: user ghetek exists
[08:16] <flannel> MyGhetek: oh, sorry. usermod not useradd
[08:17] <ArrenLex> ...that doesn't make any sense.
[08:17] <ArrenLex> What about libusb-dev?
[08:17] <acehigh> hrm interesting
[08:17] <acehigh> su aint the same
[08:17] <Byan> warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: lsb (LSB - Linux Standard Base support)
[08:18] <ArrenLex> This sucks. xD
[08:18] <Byan> install lsb-base?
[08:18] <ArrenLex> I guess so.
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Yeah.
[08:18] <Byan> already installed >_<
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Byan: how about the lsb package?
[08:18] <Byan> ArrenLex: oh, ok
[08:18] <acehigh> ArrenLex: dumb question but root use to be su and the docs say sudo -i but it aint root least as far as true root?
[08:19] <guest132> what are the commands to install  bin file?
[08:19] <XiXaQ> guest132, sudo ./install-file.bin ?
[08:19] <ArrenLex> acehigh: sudo is safer than su. If you absolutely must have your su, do "sudo passwd root" and set yourself a root password. Then you can use su. But sudo will give the same functionality.
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !root
[08:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:19] <guest132> thanks
[08:19] <wabbit> Could someone point me to some documentation on how one could configure the microphone. I would really like to start using skype :-)
[08:19] <Byan> my god.. it should just tell me all the ones it needs >_<
[08:20] <acehigh> ArrenLex: true i understand how sudo works but shouldn't sudo -i be true root?
[08:20] <ArrenLex> Byan: yeah, eh?
[08:20] <catalytic> is the desktop supposed to just flicker every now and then
[08:20] <catalytic> not as in corrupted vid card stuff
[08:20] <catalytic> like if u have firefox download window open
[08:20] <catalytic> and its getting updated every now and then
[08:20] <ozzloy> failing getting the paste buffer to update via mouse highlighting, how do i update it with keystrokes?
[08:20] <ArrenLex> acehigh: I guess so? I'm not familiar with it.
[08:20] <thoreauputic> acehigh:  sudo -i is a true root shell
[08:20] <catalytic> but ubunutu seems to redraw all the desktop icons as well
[08:21] <ArrenLex> catalytic: that's not normal.
[08:21] <catalytic> ok
[08:21] <acehigh> ArrenLex: thoreauputic: I can't save the sources.list file even under sudo -i
[08:21] <catalytic> im sick of trying to install the proper drivers for my computer
[08:21] <thoreauputic> acehigh: sure you can - how did you edit it?
[08:21] <catalytic> coz everytrime i do, it restarts
[08:21] <acehigh> vi
[08:21] <catalytic> and stops at the shell,
[08:22] <catalytic> then i run startX or X and it never boots back up
[08:22] <thoreauputic> acehigh: just edit it with sudo or gksudo <editor of choice>
[08:22] <catalytic> and then I cant revert back to the original drivers
[08:22] <catalytic> and i have to keep reinstalling
[08:22] <ArrenLex> catalytic: what error message does it give you? What drivers? What card?
[08:22] <acehigh> oh
[08:22] <catalytic> ati radeon 9550 on xubuntu
[08:22] <acehigh> dont i feel shilmish
[08:22] <ArrenLex> catalytic: trying to install fglrx?
[08:22] <catalytic> tried both the radeon
[08:22] <catalytic> and the
[08:22] <ArrenLex> !enter
[08:22] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:22] <catalytic> that one, the fglrx
[08:23] <ArrenLex> catalytic: what error did it give you when you tried installing fglrx?
[08:23] <Parisi> ati + beryl = nightmare
[08:23] <catalytic> something referring to cannot find default system fonts
[08:23] <catalytic> im using xubuntu, is that beryl parisi?
[08:23] <Parisi> XiXaQ, I sold my Radeon 9200SE and bought a FX 5700 just to solve that.
[08:24] <niles> hi
[08:24] <Parisi> Now it works as charm for the most part.
[08:24] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:24] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:24] <catalytic> i dont have the exact error as i since reinstalled xubuntu over the ubuntu partition, and I am downloading the xubuntu alternate cd to try on an old laptop
[08:24] <niles> does ATI cards have a reputation for having the kernel panic ?
[08:24] <Parisi> catalytic, I do not know what xubuntu is.
[08:24] <wabbit> Could someone please point me to a good microphone configuration howto. :-)
[08:24] <ArrenLex> xubuntu = ubuntu - gnome + xfce
[08:25] <Parisi> ArrenLex, I see.
[08:25] <catalytic> I think i prefer xfce
[08:25] <Parisi> I like gnome's eye candy/.
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Eye candy = KDE
[08:25] <AWOSDev> Yay KDE!
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Indeed.
[08:25] <AWOSDev> What a great first message.
[08:25] <acehigh> ArrenLex: thoreauputic: thanks :)
[08:25] <Parisi> Kde eye candy?
[08:25] <Parisi> Wow.
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Hell yes.
[08:25] <thoreauputic> acehigh: no worries :)
[08:25] <AWOSDev> anyway
[08:26] <ArrenLex> You can't love KDE, for she is my wife.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> I will fight you for her honour.
[08:26] <acehigh> thoreauputic: im old school linux before all these changes
[08:26] <frogzoo> !fglrx > catalytic
[08:26] <MyGhetek> how do i add a directory to www-data?
[08:26] <niles> is xfce directed to the ultimiate n00b ?
[08:26] <acehigh> thoreauputic: ext2 days
[08:26] <catalytic> thast frog
[08:26] <niles> not that it's bad to be a n00b
[08:26] <thoreauputic> acehigh: :) well, sudo has been around for a *long* time actually
[08:26] <Parisi> KDE is too boring, reminds me of windows.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> niles, no, xfce is directed to low-end computers.
[08:26] <niles> ahh
[08:26] <catalytic> ill try, but im hesitant it will kill everything again
[08:26] <ArrenLex> Parisi: KDE is not boring!! It is infinitely configurable.
[08:27] <acehigh> thoreauputic: true I just always used su :P
[08:27] <frogzoo> catalytic: read that thoroughly, & you'll be right
[08:27] <thoreauputic> acehigh: :)
[08:27] <ArrenLex> White Sword? I've only played the N64 games and Wind Waker.
[08:27] <Parisi> ArrenLex, I like gnome themes :)
[08:27] <Byan> ArrenLex: oh... lol.. http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/step2/ubuntu606.html
[08:27] <AWOSDev> ArrenLex, yes, the NES game.
[08:27] <ArrenLex> XD
[08:27] <ArrenLex> Yes, I think that would kind of have helped.
[08:27] <acehigh> Yahoo upgrade here we come
[08:28] <ArrenLex> But we got them all through trial and error anyway, didn't we?
[08:28] <catalytic> ok, thanks, this guide actually looks a lot more thorough than the otherse I have tried
[08:28] <AWOSDev> Anyway :)
[08:28] <AWOSDev> I need to play a MIDI through the MPU-401 game port (e.g. external keyboard).
[08:28] <AWOSDev> Nobody knows how anywhere else, so I came here.
[08:28] <AWOSDev> Even though I never get help and always end up helping other people instead.
[08:28] <acehigh> thoreauputic: if this gives you a idea of how far back i go......C64 with 5 1/4 disk :P
[08:28] <ArrenLex> Wow. You're old.
[08:29] <acehigh> thoreauputic: back when you had to program to play a game
[08:29] <AWOSDev> acehigh, oh man you trumped me, I just go back to the 8088
[08:29] <thehil> Does anyone know how to solve weighted tree search problem?
[08:29] <thoreauputic> acehigh: heh - Fortran IV , PDP-11 and COBOL ;-)
[08:29] <acehigh> AWOSDev: your old
[08:29] <acehigh> thoreauputic:  yep
[08:29] <AWOSDev> Yay GW-BASIC!  :)
[08:29] <acehigh> thoreauputic: sad part is i knew that stuff which aint useful except for soemthings now days
[08:30] <thoreauputic> acehigh: my first computer class , unix was only 1 year old ;)
[08:30] <acehigh> thoreauputic: 1976
[08:30] <thoreauputic> acehigh: so i win in the ancinets competition :D
[08:30] <Byan> ArrenLex: so, how do I use scanimage?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> *ancients
[08:30] <ArrenLex> Byan: paste the output of scanimage -L
[08:30] <thoreauputic> acehigh: 1971 ;p
[08:30] <Byan> device `hpaio:/usb/Officejet_4300_series?serial=CN65QF20H504GQ' is a hp Officejet_4300_series multi-function peripheral
[08:30] <Byan> device `hpaio:/usb/Officejet_4300_series?serial=CN65QF20H504GQ' is a hp Officejet_4300_series multi-function peripheral
[08:30] <ArrenLex> YAY!
[08:30] <acehigh> thoreauputic: k you count the beta hehe
[08:30] <ArrenLex> T'was found ^___^
[08:30] <AWOSDev> That would be 1960 something.
[08:30] <Byan> there is two lines, I didn't just get happy with the right click
[08:31] <AWOSDev> ah 1971
[08:31] <Byan> should there be two?
[08:31] <ArrenLex> ...nno? But as long as it works who cares?
[08:31] <thoreauputic> UNIX started in 1969 strictly speaking I guess
[08:31] <Byan> ArrenLex: good point
[08:31] <mabreaux> is there any way to get a command line to execute a program that is not in the menu's in gnome?
[08:31] <ArrenLex> Byan: you did uninstall the ubuntu hplip package, yes?
[08:31] <Parisi> Here is what my current desktop looks like with Beryl + Gnome : http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2fm4.png
[08:31] <acehigh> AWOSDev: the beta came out in 71 but the sdg start in 76 which is the comercial version
[08:31] <ArrenLex> mabreaux: yes? Just enter it.
[08:32] <acehigh> the days of the punch cards hehe
[08:32] <Byan> ArrenLex: yeah
[08:32] <thoreauputic> acehigh: yup
[08:32] <mabreaux> I went to add programs and is does not list this program....   and I did not see a way to add it.
[08:32] <acehigh> talk about painful
[08:32] <AWOSDev> actually 1970 was the first beta because according to the Wiki:
[08:32] <mabreaux> what do you mean just type it
[08:32] <AWOSDev> In 1970, the project was named Unics, short for Uniplexed Information and Computing System, and could support two simultaneous users.
[08:32] <ArrenLex> Byan: scanimage --help should tell you all you need to know. It's very brief and informative. Note that, by default, scanimage dumps the image straight to stdout, so you need to direct it to a file, like scanimage --format=tiff > file.tif
[08:32] <thoreauputic> acehigh: especially when you dropped the deck of cards ;)
[08:32] <acehigh> hehe yep
[08:33] <Byan> what formates?
[08:33] <Byan> will it support
[08:33] <ArrenLex> Byan: pnm and tiff are the only formats scanimage supports. You'd have to convert these to more useful formats with command line utilities like imagemagick if you wanted other files.
[08:33] <AWOSDev> Ew punch cards, thankfully I missed that part :P
[08:33] <Byan> alrught
[08:33] <acehigh> thoreauputic: if my dad seen the type of computer work i do now he would cry
[08:33] <ArrenLex> Byan: that would look like scanimage --format=tiff | convert - file.png
[08:34] <ArrenLex> Byan: I think. Don't take my word for it.
[08:34] <Byan> ArrenLex: k
[08:34] <acehigh> AWOSDev: I didn't cause my father did it
[08:34] <AWOSDev> Hehe :)
[08:35] <mabreaux> I am trying to run gnucash in gnome..   and can not figure out how to do it.
[08:35] <AWOSDev> hard to imagine...512K->640K memory *upgrade*....now we're at 4G
[08:35] <acehigh> 64K-128K was my days
[08:36] <Byan> ArrenLex: now to be able to print/scan from other computers?
[08:36] <Byan> what do I do?
[08:36] <Byan> or, you can just point me in the right direction..
[08:36] <AWOSDev> Okay now how do I play MIDIs through an MPU-401 port?
[08:36] <ArrenLex> Byan: hold on, printing first. What's the output of lpinfo -l?
[08:37] <Byan> AWOSDev: try page up
[08:37] <frogzoo> AWOSDev: irssi - page up
[08:37] <acehigh> I wasn't going to say it
[08:37] <frogzoo> !midi
[08:37] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:37] <acehigh> oh heck yea
[08:37] <AWOSDev> WOW
[08:38] <mabreaux> what is the menu editor called in gnome
[08:38] <acehigh> the bang search is here I love that
[08:38] <thoreauputic> mabreaux: alacarte
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Byan: hallo?
[08:38] <Byan> ArrenLex: no output..
[08:38] <mabreaux> how do you run it?
[08:38] <acehigh> frogzoo: thanks for showing me that now I dont have to ask so much hehe
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Oh, sorry. lpinfo -vv
[08:39] <thoreauputic> mabreaux: umm... either type alacarte in a terminal or right click the menu icon and choose the menu editor
[08:39] <Geoffrey2> can anyone tell me why a site that looks fine in a Windows version of Firefox would look like garbage in the Linux version?
[08:39] <Byan> direct hp:/usb/Officejet_4300_series?serial=CN65QF20H504GQ
[08:39] <Byan> direct hpfax:/usb/Officejet_4300_series?serial=CN65QF20H504GQ
[08:39] <Byan> among other things
[08:39] <thoreauputic> "edit menus" funnily enough...
[08:39] <ArrenLex> YAYY
[08:39] <ArrenLex> Whoa, you can even use fax.
[08:39] <AWOSDev> frogzoo, uh........
[08:40] <AWOSDev> frogzoo, I am "using external MIDI instruments"
[08:40] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2: I sure can't. o_O
[08:40] <Byan> ArrenLex: could that be the other scan device?
[08:40] <ArrenLex> Byan: I don't know.
[08:40] <Byan> so, how do I change that tiff into a ps to print it?
[08:41] <Byan> or, I'll just print ASCII for now..
[08:42] <Geoffrey2> could someone check www.reformpa.net for me, just to see if the page looks reasonably good to them in a linux browser?
[08:42] <acehigh> Byan: if your printer supports ps and you use a linux program that reads adobe file formats it will print if im correct
[08:42] <AWOSDev> Geoffrey2, looks good in Konqueror
[08:42] <Byan> acehigh: how does that help me for a tiff?
[08:42] <wabbit> how does one know what sound cards are available on the system?? lspci show I have "Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller" but my laptop has a altec lansing speaker.
[08:43] <acehigh> Byan: im just saying its a shot
[08:43] <Byan> acehigh: kk
[08:43] <acehigh> byan someone else might be able to say yes or no to it
[08:43] <ArrenLex> Byan: note that imagemagick can convert to ps.
[08:43] <ArrenLex> convert file.tiff file.ps
[08:43] <Byan> oh
[08:43] <acehigh> Byan: basing my knowledge off older versions of debian
[08:44] <Geoffrey2> AWOSDev, ok, thanks...I checked the page in Linux Firefox and it looked terrible, then I loaded up the Windows version I have, and it looked fine....so I thought I'd check
[08:44] <Byan> lpr: Error - no default destination available.
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: what firefox?
[08:44] <Byan> how do I set a default?
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: looks fine to me.
[08:44] <mabreaux> many thank on the menu editor!!
[08:45] <acehigh> 26 minutes
[08:45] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, Firefox 1.5.0.7
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Byan: lpoptions -d <printername>
[08:45] <acehigh> does anyone know if gkrellm is in the beta version?
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: seems fine to me.
[08:45] <acehigh> default install doesn't list it
[08:45] <Geoffrey2> well, maybe something is just goofy on my version.....
[08:45] <mabreaux> in kde you can do a control-f2 for comand line what is the comand in gnome to do the same thing?
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Byan: where printername was given to you by lpinfo -v
[08:45] <Byan> ArrenLex: what exactly is the printername?
[08:45] <acehigh> amoung many other programs hehe
[08:46] <thoreauputic> mabreaux: alt-F2 :)
[08:46] <Byan> ArrenLex: kk
[08:46] <ArrenLex> Byan: try hp:/usb/Officejet_4300_series?serial=CN65QF20H504GQ for printername
[08:46] <Jewfro> I'm using way more disk space than I should be, could that be related to having my windows drive mounted?
[08:46] <thoreauputic> mabreaux: and I think it's alt-F2 in KDE isn't it? O r do you mean ctrl-alt-F2 for a tty ?
[08:46] <poningru> Jewfro: no
[08:46] <Byan> lpoptions: Unknown printer or class!
[08:47] <mabreaux> alt-f2 does not work...
[08:47] <acehigh> Jewfro: how big is your swap?
[08:47] <ArrenLex> Okay...
[08:47] <thoreauputic> mabreaux: alt-F2 gives you a "run" dialogue in GNOME
[08:47] <Jewfro> acehigh, um? how to tell? the HDD is 200GB
[08:47] <acehigh> Jewfro: when you installed did you specify a swap partition?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> mabreaux: for a console tty , you can do ctrl-alt-F (1-6)
[08:48] <Jewfro> acehigh, I followed the standard default, told it to use the whole drive
[08:48] <acehigh> Jewfro: that could be why your using more diskspace than you think
[08:49] <mon^rch> is it easy to setup/use .emerald themes or cwxtheme (or whatever they're called)
[08:49] <Jewfro> acehigh, how do I resolve the problem? or what do I search for in the community docs to find out even?
[08:49] <acehigh> Jewfro: swap will write to what ever you default it too and if you dont specify a swap partition it defaults to the primary partition
[08:50] <ArrenLex> Byan: it would be a lot easier to configure your printer using the cups web interface on port 631...
[08:50] <mabreaux> I tried a alt-f2 an nothing happened?
[08:50] <Jewfro> Fixing this requires re-install? do tell me so I can abort my updates now...
[08:50] <poningru> sigh
[08:50] <acehigh> Jewfro: I ussually make a 2g partition just for swap as a safe point
[08:50] <wabbit> gosh!!!
[08:50] <poningru> Jewfro: swap doesnt matter
[08:50] <acehigh> Jewfro: you dont need that big
[08:50] <thoreauputic> mabreaux: are you in GNOME?
[08:50] <poningru> go to system->admin->disk
[08:50] <mabreaux> yes
[08:50] <ArrenLex> Byan: what does "lpstat -t" tell you?
[08:50] <Byan> ArrenLex: and how do I start that?
[08:50] <mabreaux> yes I am in Gnome
[08:51] <poningru> Jewfro: that will tell you how big your partitions are
[08:51] <poningru> and how full they are
[08:51] <ArrenLex> Byan: it's already started. The question is how to get to it without a web browser.
[08:51] <thoreauputic> mabreaux: that's odd then - it should pop up a dialogue - there's also a panel applet for it
[08:51] <ArrenLex> Jewfro: yes, how big are your partitions? ;););)
[08:51] <wrabbit^> make sure f-lock isn't on if you're using a fancy keyboard mabreaux
[08:51] <Byan> seems the printer name is Officejet_4300 btw
[08:51] <mabreaux> where is the panel applet and what is it called
[08:52] <acehigh> ArrenLex: hehe
[08:52] <ArrenLex> Byan: use that, then.
[08:52] <wrabbit^> mabreaux: what're you trying to do exactly?
[08:52] <poningru> ArrenLex: coc applies here
[08:52] <ArrenLex> Oh come on. I didn't say anything dirty.
[08:52] <poningru> :)
[08:52] <mabreaux> using a laptop and the keyboard is very simple
[08:52] <Jewfro> partition 1 is 183GB, and swap is 2.9
[08:52] <thoreauputic> mabreaux: right click the panel, add, run application
[08:52] <Byan> ArrenLex: yeah, lpr is working now
[08:53] <poningru> Jewfro: whats how much of partition 1 is free?
[08:53] <acehigh> Jewfro: k so you did make a swap
[08:53] <Byan> ArrenLex: no way to configure it to listen on the eth?
[08:53] <mabreaux> that worked to add "run program"
[08:53] <Byan> ArrenLex: or, config files are fun anyways...
[08:53] <Jewfro> that doesn't make sense though, I should be using about 100 Gigs less, I've only got 45.33 free gigs, dropping my the minute and I'm just downloading small updates
[08:53] <mon^rch> is it easy to setup/use .emerald themes or cwxtheme (or whatever they're called)
[08:54] <wrabbit^> fine. No help from the ol' wrabbit
[08:54] <ArrenLex> Byan: what will you be printing from? Only linux, or windows also?
[08:54] <flannel> Jewfro: how do you figure that 100 gigs number?
[08:54] <Byan> ArrenLex: my roommate uses windows
[08:55] <mabreaux> is there a good source to learn about gnome,  I know kde pretty well and would like to learn gnome too.
[08:55] <Jewfro> flannel, the OS plus my media files approx 50 ish Gigs
[08:55] <Jewfro> at least that should be
[08:55] <Blippe> mabreaux, hands on experience is the best
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Byan: sharing is where my bumbling half-advice fails completely. I share my printer with samba; the only clients are Windows. This will probably not suit you.
[08:56] <ArrenLex> I suggest you google for how to set up a Linux print server, now that the hardware stuff is out of the way.
[08:56] <Byan> well, Samba is already set up
[08:56] <ArrenLex> http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/networking/printsharing.shtml This is the first result google turned up; it may be useful or may not.
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Byan: samba is easy.
[08:56] <flannel> Jewfro: and du and df aren't reporting consistant numbers?
[08:57] <Byan> ArrenLex: how printers like uh.. the ones that use hardware printer servers
[08:57] <ArrenLex> Byan: http://arrenlex.diff.be/smb.conf this is my /etc/samba/smb.conf for sharing my printer, by the name of C510. You might find it useful. I really have to go, I'm afraid.
[08:57] <MyGhetek> alright guys, i need to make the user ghetek part of the group www-data
[08:57] <Jbirk> How do I edit my gnome startup session from the console?
[08:57] <Jewfro> flannel, my free space has changed by 3 gigs or so in the last hour, I'm downloading updates at a blazing 14kbps or so, so I know I haven't possible installed that much.
[08:57] <wrabbit^> if you want to learn gnome, it's as simple as typing: "learn gnome" into google.  The first link is useful.
[08:58] <pwk> hi
[08:58] <Byan> hmmm
[08:58] <Jbirk> i.e. let's say I added something to system > preferences >sessions >startup and now it crashes
[08:58] <pwk> i'm running a installtion in vmware fr ubnuntu :...
[08:58] <Jbirk> how can I disable or remove it if I can't login?
[08:58] <flannel> MyGhetek: sudo usermod -G www-data ghetek
[08:59] <pwk> will vmware tools work in 6.06 ?
[08:59] <MyGhetek> flannel: but i still cant mkdir in my ftp client when loggin on as "ghetek" after running that command
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Byan: anyway, the hardware's set up; I can't help you further. The rest if a common issue you should be able to google. Hope I could help somewhat!
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Byeee.
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Enjoy Linux.
[09:00] <Byan> ArrenLex: bye
[09:00] <wrabbit^> what's linux?
[09:00] <Flannel> MyGhetek: as ghetek, type "groups" does www-data show up?
[09:00] <ArrenLex> !linux
[09:00] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:00] <Jbirk> What if I added something to the sessions startup, and now it crashes when it loads?
[09:00] <pwk> i'm running 612mb ram in vmware for ubuntu
[09:00] <Jbirk> How do I fix that?
[09:00] <MyGhetek> flannel: yes it does
[09:01] <Flannel> Jbirk: safe gnome
[09:01] <Jbirk> how do i do that?
[09:01] <Flannel> MyGhetek: alright, you may need to chmod /var/www to including writing by the group (instead of just the user)
[09:01] <Flannel> Jbirk: at GDM, sessions, safe gnome
[09:01] <Jewfro> this is very strange, my free space is just disappearing
[09:01] <wrabbit^> Jbirk: At the login screen.  Change sessions to safe gnome
[09:01] <wrabbit^> Jbirk: can you get that far?
[09:01] <Jbirk> yeah
[09:01] <MyGhetek> chmod u+r /var/www ?
[09:01] <Jbirk> I get to login
[09:02] <Jbirk> It just starts logging in
[09:02] <Jbirk> then it loads the last command a friend put in and restarts
[09:02] <Flannel> MyGhetek: g not u
[09:02] <Jbirk> My buddy put restart in there
[09:02] <Jbirk> not too funny
[09:02] <Flannel> MyGhetek: and w not r (write not read)
[09:02] <wrabbit^> Jbirk: Don't put in your login details until you've changed sessions.
[09:02] <Jbirk> okay
[09:02] <Jbirk> Basically, my friend put in restart
[09:02] <fu-k-t> hi
[09:02] <MyGhetek> flannel: sudo chown g+r /var/www ?
[09:02] <Jbirk> and now, when I login, Linux restarts
[09:03] <Jbirk> Okay, I did safe gnome
[09:03] <Flannel> MyGhetek: g+w
[09:03] <Jbirk> now I can just remove that
[09:03] <fu-k-t>  i need to know how to disable ssh access for a particular user
[09:03] <Jbirk> then log out
[09:03] <Jbirk> and back in?
[09:03] <Jbirk> thansk
[09:03] <not> i'm having trouble playing a .mp3 file with XMMS -- it used to play, but now it just gives this error: "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly You have the correct output plugin selected No other program is blocking the soundcard" how do i check to see if any of those are the problem, and how would i got about fixing them?
[09:03] <fu-k-t> any ideas?
[09:03] <Jbirk> next question
[09:03] <Jbirk> how do I get all 10 buttons working on my MX500 mouse?
[09:03] <Flannel> !tell Jbirk about mouse
[09:03] <wrabbit^> !tell Flannel about Flannel
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Flannel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <pwk> i'm at the point at parttioner in setup, now i need help
[09:04] <skewh> Hey there, I'm having problems with my vsftpd server, whenever I upload things I get a Forbidden error unless I manually CHMOD everything to 444
[09:04] <pwk> can i pm someone for help ?
[09:04] <wrabbit^> pwk, with what?
[09:04] <wrabbit^> just ask in here
[09:04] <pwk> k
[09:05] <L3TUC3> hmm
[09:05] <pwk> i'm in vmware.. need help with everything in part. manager in setup
[09:05] <L3TUC3> Im lacking window decorations in beryl
[09:05] <MyGhetek> flannel: i ran "sudo chown g+w /var/www" still not able to make directories
[09:05] <L3TUC3> what could be the case?
[09:05] <pwk> what do i do first ?
[09:05] <MyGhetek> !tell myghetek about chown
[09:06] <AWOSDev> Does anybody know how to use external MIDI instruments on Dapper?
[09:06] <captine> can someone please suggest which cdburning gui is the better to use with 64bit ubuntu?  thnx
[09:06] <Flannel> MyGhetek: what's the perms on /var/www? (ls -l /var/)
[09:06] <skewh> Hey there, I'm having problems with my vsftpd server, whenever I upload things I get a Forbidden error unless I manually CHMOD everything to 444
[09:06] <AWOSDev> captine, I personally use K3b, but then again I'm just a lowly x86
[09:06] <pwk> like what file format is swap part. ?
[09:06] <cypher1_> skewh, any umask problem >
[09:06] <captine> AWOSDev: i am wishing i had installed 32bit.  lol thnx
[09:07] <not> i'm having trouble playing a .mp3 file with XMMS -- it used to play, but now it just gives this error: "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly You have the correct output plugin selected No other program is blocking the soundcard" how do i check to see if any of those are the problem, and how would i go about fixing them?
[09:07] <Flannel> fu-k-t: in sshd_conf you can Deny/Allow stuff (DenyGroup, etc)
[09:07] <pwk> linux-swap.. or ext. ?
[09:07] <cypher1_> skewh, paste your vsftpd.conf
[09:07] <skewh> cypher1_: ok
[09:07] <acehigh> AWOSDev: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/MIDI-HOWTO-7.html
[09:07] <skewh> into the main chat?
[09:07] <MyGhetek> flannel: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 2006-10-14 19:10 www
[09:07] <cypher1_> skewh, no
[09:07] <Flannel> fu-k-t: actually, easier to do individual users: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/openssh-deny-or-restrict-access-to-users-and-groups.html
[09:08] <Jbirk> thanks but I have a 10 button mouse
[09:08] <skewh> k
[09:08] <fu-k-t> thanks, Flannel
[09:08] <Flannel> MyGhetek: er... Why is it owned by root?
[09:08] <Jbirk> It is the MX 500 logitech
[09:08] <cypher1_> skewh, see topicj regarding pastebin
[09:08] <Blippe> pwk, the swap should be linux-swap and about the size of your ram
[09:08] <Jbirk> Oh well, I guess it is time for a movie
[09:08] <skewh> k
[09:08] <MyGhetek> flannel: iono
[09:08] <DigitalNinja> How does one start their own chanel
[09:08] <Blippe> pwk, the automatic partionier is really good though
[09:08] <pwk> and the main part. ext 3 ?
[09:08] <Flannel> Jbirk: what makes you think that page won't work for yours?
[09:08] <dedalus65> PWK I am using Ubuntu Dapper in VmWare right now , you should just let the installation taking the hard drive (virtual disk)
[09:08] <pwk> howd i get auto ?
[09:08] <Blippe> ext3 is a good choice for the main part
[09:08] <AWOSDev> acehigh, dead.
[09:09] <Jbirk> I am just sayin gI have 10 buttons
[09:09] <AWOSDev> Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class alsaheader in /shm/var/data/www/htdocs/components/head.php on line 5
[09:09] <Jbirk> not 7
[09:09] <ubund> hi. i use ( http://nongeeksight.blogspot.com/2006/09/printer-configuration-utility-updated.html ) and gets ( http://www.wklej.org/id/f8cbdb4dfd ) when trying to use "add printer"
[09:09] <acehigh> AWOSDev: ?
[09:09] <Jbirk> not that I watn to use all my buttons
[09:09] <pwk> dedalus65, does vmware tolls help peformance out ?
[09:09] <captine> AWOSDev: do u use it in gnome?
[09:09] <dedalus65> it will install by itself, I got the live cd starting and then chose install
[09:09] <AWOSDev> acehigh the link
[09:09] <Flannel> Jbirk: The specific number isn't important.  The method is the same
[09:09] <Jbirk> I just want to use the back and forward buttons in nautilus and firefox
[09:09] <acehigh> AWOSDev: it worked for me hehe
[09:09] <AWOSDev> captine no, <small>I hate GNOME and use KDE</small>
[09:09] <dedalus65> I have enough resolution without it
[09:09] <Blippe> pwk, right before you chose how to partition the harddrives there should have been a question if you wanted automatic partitioning
[09:09] <pwk> dedalus65, you do auto part. ?
[09:09] <Jbirk> I just whish I understood what button is what
[09:09] <dedalus65> and the sound is working fine
[09:09] <dedalus65> yes
[09:10] <AWOSDev> pwk, no but I work on cars.
[09:10] <pwk> lol
[09:10] <skewh> here's my vsftpd.conf: http://pastebin.com/806835
[09:10] <MyGhetek> flannel: is there a way to make www-data own that directory?
[09:10] <Flannel> Jbirk: here' a more speciifc page, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse
[09:10] <cypher1_> skewh, k let me see
[09:10] <AWOSDev> acehigh, yeah but on the ALSA (what I use) link ti's dead
[09:10] <AWOSDev> s/ti/it
[09:10] <dedalus65> I let the auto partition chose the size of partition
[09:11] <Flannel> MyGhetek: sudo chown www-data:www-data /var/www
[09:11] <dedalus65> I install it 2 hours ago and it took me 20 minutes
[09:11] <dedalus65> to install, Ubuntu is so user friendly
[09:11] <acehigh> AWOSDev: try this
[09:11] <pwk> if i auto part. it will take the hole drive .. correct ?
[09:11] <acehigh> AWOSDev: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/MIDI-HOWTO.html
[09:11] <Shadow_mil> dedalus65: :(
[09:11] <Shadow_mil> :)*
[09:12] <dedalus65> well the size you attribute in vmware
[09:12] <pwk> i set 24gb.. but i didn't allocate the space then..
[09:12] <dedalus65> I put 6 gig max on vmware setting for ubuntu dapper and it was enough
[09:12] <pwk> so it uses the space as it needs it
[09:13] <MyGhetek> flannel: i ran that but the ls -l still shows that root owns it and still cant make a dir in it through ftp with the ghetek user
[09:13] <dedalus65> but then , I keep space for more virtual machine
[09:13] <dedalus65> like slackware
[09:13] <pwk> is it ok, i didn't allocate space during setup in vmware ?
[09:13] <AWOSDev> acehigh, no no no the actual site worked, I just can't get in to the ALSA link
[09:13] <Shadow_mil> man all the reservoirs have been slow lately
[09:13] <dedalus65> yep it will fill up space up to 24 gigs
[09:13] <acehigh> AWOSDev: oh
[09:13] <dedalus65> I think that was I<ve done
[09:14] <Flannel> MyGhetek: if you did that, and root still owns it, you're doing something else wrong.  Or, something.  Did you get an error while chmodding?
[09:14] <pwk> install
[09:14] <Flannel> MyGhetek: er, chowning?
[09:14] <MyGhetek> flannel: no i did not get a single error
[09:14] <pwk> cool, cause last time i wasn't in vmware.. and i manually did it, and scrwed my windows
[09:14] <dedalus65> you have to set up a virtual machine
[09:14] <cypher1_> skewh, are you trying to upload as anonymous or real user ?
[09:15] <skewh> real user
[09:15] <MyGhetek> flannel: i ran this "sudo chown www-data:www-data /var/www"
[09:15] <pwk> cause i need windows for university
[09:15] <dedalus65> then with watever setting for your ubuntu
[09:15] <jojoman02> anyone know any good zeroconf sharing programs? for networks composed of ubuntu computers
[09:15] <dedalus65> you start the virtual machine with the ubuntu cd (dvd) on your cdrom
[09:15] <pwk> will vmware tools run in ubntu 6.06 if i told it to install it ?
[09:15] <Flannel> MyGhetek: and you installed apache through the repositories, right?
[09:16] <dedalus65> and the virtual will boot from it
[09:16] <dedalus65> you install it
[09:16] <MyGhetek> flannel: i used the LAMP install on the cd
[09:16] <dedalus65> and after the installation your can run vmware tool
[09:16] <pwk> cool
[09:16] <MyGhetek> flannel: i just ran the command as root without the sudo part and it looks good now
[09:16] <DigitalNinja> Is there a place I can get good free web hosting?
[09:16] <dedalus65> but like i said My setting was ok
[09:17] <pwk> cause i had windows 200 pro on vm.. and worked great.. i'm anewbie with vmware though
[09:17] <Flannel> MyGhetek: what are the permissions on it?
[09:17] <MyGhetek> flannel: drwxr-xr-x  3 www-data www-data 4096 2006-10-14 19:10 www
[09:17] <pwk> k
[09:17] <dedalus65> resolution 1024x768
[09:17] <pwk> gotta go
[09:17] <pwk> i'll leave it install
[09:17] <dedalus65> enough for what I want to do
[09:17] <dedalus65> no vmware tool installed
[09:17] <pwk> and when i wake up i'll mess around with ubntu
[09:18] <MyGhetek> flannel: still no directory making in ftp in that dir
[09:18] <MyGhetek> flannel: maybe a problem with ftpd?
[09:18] <pwk> thanks eveyone
[09:18] <dedalus65> ok
[09:18] <Flannel> MyGhetek: better.  Now you just need to chown it, do this: chown g+x /var/www && chown o-x /var/www
[09:18] <pwk> goodnight all
[09:18] <jimdaniels> hi there i have a little problem with file permissions. i need to access a file on an external drive which has only root permissions from my other ubuntu system. is there a way to log in on this machine with the other user account?
[09:18] <Flannel> jimdaniels: you need to change the umask on the external drive
[09:18] <MyGhetek> flannel: chown: `g+x': invalid user
[09:19] <Flannel> MyGhetek: er, sorry. chmods for both of those
[09:19] <jimdaniels> Flannel: how can i do this?
[09:19] <Flannel> MyGhetek: now you've gotten me all turned around ;)
[09:20] <AWOSDev> Flannel, it's okay, I did that to somebody once
[09:21] <AWOSDev> the scary part was it was chown 777, so it changed it to an unidentified UID :)
[09:21] <Flannel> jimdaniels: it's external, so it's not in your fstab, right?  so you'll unmount then remount
[09:21] <Shadow_mil> how can I check my FPS output of my X server?
[09:21] <MyGhetek> flannel: root@LAMP:/var# chmod g+x /var/www && chmod o-x /var/www
[09:21] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: glxgears -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark
[09:22] <jimdaniels> yea it isn't. just sudo umount/mount -a ?
[09:22] <MyGhetek> flannel: still cant make a dir as ghetek
[09:22] <mabreaux> does anyone know how to set the default windowing system on ubuntu,  I have kde and gnome installed?
[09:22] <AWOSDev> Flannel that didn't work on my puter
[09:23] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: ,,,,
[09:23] <AWOSDev> Flannel are you messing with us?
[09:23] <acehigh> Flannel: wish i could run a gear hehe double buffers prevent me from doin it
[09:23] <AWOSDev> mabreaux, try the session drop down box at the login screen, then it will ask something like "Make this the default?" and you say Yes and everybody's happy
[09:24] <Flannel> AWOSDev: no, it does work.
[09:24] <acehigh> AWOSDev: ATI?
[09:24] <AWOSDev> yes
[09:24] <AWOSDev> grrrrrrrrr
[09:24] <acehigh> thats why hehe
[09:25] <acehigh> AWOSDev: i have a onboard nvidia as a backup and it works wonderfully but I also run a pciex ati1600
[09:25] <AWOSDev> that's /me's newest computer
[09:26] <acehigh> AWOSDev: I just upgraded to the AM2 setup it rocks imo
[09:26] <skewh> cypher1_:  any updates?
[09:26] <AnAnt> after upgrading to Edgy I get this error when I try to run a pre-compiled software (that used to work on Dapper): Error: Could not create FontSet for font '-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*'. <=  How can I solve this ?
[09:26] <cypher1_> skewh, you did not answer me this question -- are you trying to upload as anonymous or real user ?
[09:26] <Flannel> jimdaniels: you'll want mount -a -O umask=0000 or whatever (umask is OPPOSITE of the permissions, 0000 means 777 etc, unless it's fat, then you use... dmask and fmask, I believe (man mount for more info on filesystem specifics)
[09:27] <Flannel> AnAnt: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[09:27] <skewh> cypher1_:  oh I thought I did, anyways I am uploading as a real user
[09:27] <Lam_> if i stick a cheese pizza on the kitchen table and leave it till morning to eat, would it be better to put it in the fridge and microwave or not?
[09:27] <Flannel> MyGhetek: what's the permissions of /var/www?
[09:27] <AWOSDev> Lam_ I would
[09:27] <BHSPitLappy> Lam_, refrigerate it
[09:27] <cypher1_> skewh, hold on
[09:27] <BHSPitLappy> don't leave it out
[09:27] <Lam_> ok thanks. i'll go put it in the fridge
[09:27] <BHSPitLappy> Lam_, don't you know anything about linux?
[09:28] <BHSPitLappy> err food
[09:28] <MyGhetek> flannel: drwxr-xr--  3 www-data www-data 4096 2006-10-14 19:10 www
[09:28] <acehigh> this might be a interesting upgrade
[09:29] <cypher1_> skewh, are you having the same problem when you try uploading as a root user ?
[09:29] <Lam_> BHSPitLappy: lol yeah. i was going to do it anyways, but my roommate put in in the oven (not turned on of course; space reasons) and was wondering wtf he was doing
[09:29] <Flannel> MyGhetek: the write still isn't there
[09:29] <skewh> I haven't tried it, but I will now
[09:29] <cypher1_> skewh, k
[09:29] <Flannel> MyGhetek: chmod g+w /var/www
[09:30] <cypher1_> skewh, r u on gentoo ?
[09:30] <skewh> cypher1_:  pardon?
[09:30] <cypher1_> skewh, i saw gentoo mentioned on vsftpd.conf, so just asked
[09:30] <AWOSDev> acehigh Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease tell me you know what /dev/ the MPU401 is
[09:31] <skewh> cypher1_:  I don't believe so since I'm not sure what that is, and I can not login to FTP as root
[09:31] <acehigh> AWOSDev: um lets see.................................nope
[09:32] <AWOSDev> :(
[09:32] <AWOSDev> *shrug*
[09:32] <MyGhetek> flannel: run that from root?
[09:32] <acehigh> AWOSDev: but guess what
[09:32] <Flannel> MyGhetek: or with sudo.  yes.
[09:32] <acehigh> AWOSDev: /dev/sequencer2
[09:33] <AWOSDev> Ooooh you do!
[09:33] <acehigh> AWOSDev: hehe
[09:33] <acehigh> AWOSDev: hope it works for ya
[09:33] <acehigh> ill brb reboot required
[09:33] <cypher1_> skewh, where are you trying to upload ? (mounted disk or partition) ?
[09:34] <skewh> cypher1_: I am trying to upload into the /var/www/ directory
[09:34] <eclipse75> hmm dhcp isnt working for my friend using eth0
[09:34] <eclipse75> even tried static
[09:34] <eclipse75> and ubuntu doesnt include netconfig bleh
[09:34] <cypher1_> skewh, is it mounted ? what is the umask ?
[09:34] <eclipse75> anybody have any ideas?
[09:35] <skewh> cypher1_: pardon?
[09:35] <Flannel> skewh: you need to add yourself to the www-data group, and chmod /var/www to allow people writing as that group.
[09:35] <cypher1_> skewh, check your /etc/mnttab
[09:35] <Flannel> skewh: or a subfolder, etc.
[09:35] <MyGhetek> flannel: drwxrwxr--  3 www-data www-data 4096 2006-10-14 19:10 www
[09:35] <Flannel> MyGhetek: right.  That's what we're looking for
[09:36] <MyGhetek> flannel: i love you
[09:36] <MyGhetek> flannel: and im a dude! and im not even gay.
[09:36] <cypher1_> skewh, /etc/fstab sorry
[09:36] <skewh> cypher1_:  ok, so will adding myself to the www-data group fix my problem of the web pages giving me a Forbidden error when the files aren't CHMODDED as 444?
[09:36] <Flannel> MyGhetek: glad to hear you got it figured out
[09:36] <jimdaniels> Flannel: sorry but sudo  mount -a -O umask=0000 gives me no permissions
[09:36] <anmar>  /join #dokuwiki
[09:37] <Flannel> skewh: oh, wait.  the WEB pages are giving you permissoin erors?
[09:37] <Flannel> skewh: that's because apache can't read the files.  Not anything to do with ftp
[09:37] <Flannel> skewh: make sure the apache user (www-data) can read your files
[09:38] <skewh> Flannel:  Ok, so how do I set that
[09:38] <AWOSDev> Okay this didn't work:   cat strangerinparadise.mid > /dev/sequencer2
[09:38] <Flannel> skewh: well, they're on the webserver probably as you.  So you'd want to make them readable by everyone (o+r)
[09:39] <skewh> Flannel:  Like CHMOD the entire www directory 444?
[09:39] <cypher1_> skewh, or chmod to the apache user
[09:39] <cypher1_> sorry chown
[09:39] <jimdaniels> Flannel: you still there?
[09:40] <cypher1_> Flannel, i guess that also works right ?
[09:40] <jimdaniels> Flannel: sudo  mount -a -O umask=0000 gives me no permissions
[09:40] <skewh> cypher1_: I chmodded the entire directory 444, but unless I go into that folder and chmod the individual files, it gives me a forbidden error
[09:40] <Flannel> skewh: the entire directory won't chmod the files in it.
[09:40] <Flannel> skewh: right.
[09:41] <Flannel> jimdaniels: yeah, sorry.  not really sure, haven't done a whole lot of mounting personally.  But, the umask is the answer you're looking for.
[09:41] <eclipse75> does ubuntu support xinerama? does it have a package for it or what?
[09:41] <cypher1_> skewh, so you get forbidden error while accessing the files through browser ?
[09:41] <skewh> Flannel:  Ok, so how do I fix the problem that when I upload files via FTP, it will immediatly CHMOD it 444 or allow it to display or something?
[09:41] <Flannel> !tell eclipse75 about xinerama
[09:41] <AWOSDev> You'd want umask=007
[09:41] <skewh> cypher1_:  Yes, unless I chmod 444
[09:41] <eclipse75> !tell xinerama
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell xinerama - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <jimdaniels> !umask
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <eclipse75> hehe
[09:42] <Flannel> skewh: or instead of doing that, fix it how it's meant to be.  And either set someting in the ftp config to change the default perms, or change some user stuff around
[09:42] <AWOSDev> Trust me, it's umask=007
[09:42] <Acehigh> hehe
[09:42] <Rookie_> !permission
[09:42] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:42] <Acehigh> I broked it
[09:42] <skewh> Flannel:  so how would I do that?
[09:42] <Flannel> skewh: that would depend on vsftpd, I'm not familiar with it personally.
[09:43] <pwk> i got it running in vmware :)
[09:43] <cypher1_> skewh, in vsftpd.conf change local_umask to 333
[09:43] <pwk> only found 186 updates
[09:43] <pwk> lol
[09:43] <skewh> cypher1_:  ok thank you
[09:43] <pwk> more then ms
[09:43] <Acehigh> AWOSDev did that work?
[09:43] <cypher1_> skewh, please try it out now and let us know if you have problems
[09:43] <skewh> cypher1_:  will do
[09:44] <AWOSDev> acehigh no
[09:44] <Acehigh> AWOSDev then your midi has a set dev
[09:44] <AWOSDev> acehigh I put       cat strangerinparadise.mid > /dev/sequencer2 and heard nothing
[09:45] <Acehigh> AWOSDev I dont know then sorry :(
[09:45] <AWOSDev> That should work right?
[09:45] <Acehigh> AWOSDev if I didn't just break my ATI drivers I would be able to check hehe
[09:45] <BHSPitLappy> what kind of midi card you got?
[09:46] <AWOSDev> acehigh oopsy :)
[09:46] <xUnaBx> vegan
[09:46] <Acehigh> AWOSDev try google it works really well for me
[09:46] <AWOSDev> acehigh okay
[09:47] <StoneNote> anyone know of a site or a report that compares the performance of SQLite vs Berkeley DB (BDB) vs Gnu DBM (GDBM) on ubuntu (or any version of linux for that matter)?
[09:47] <skewh> cypher1_:  just wondering, what is changing  local_umask to 333 supposed to do?
[09:48] <cypher1_> skewh, did it work
[09:48] <cypher1_> skewh, it decides on with what permissions the files get created
[09:48] <cypher1_> ubotu, umask
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <cypher1_> hah
[09:48] <skewh> cypher1_: unfortunately, I can not access the computer at the time
[09:49] <cypher1_> skewh, i did not get
[09:49] <Homer_Linux> hiya ppl whats the best program for burning mp3 to cd(audio)
[09:49] <skewh> cypher1_: My current location prohibits me from physically accessing the computer
[09:49] <AWOSDev> Homer_Linux K3b
[09:49] <BHSPitLappy> yeah, k3b...
[09:49] <BHSPitLappy> despite the K
[09:50] <cypher1_> skewh, ok then pls try it out when you can
[09:50] <skewh> cypher1_: When I can access the computer, I will try that and come back if there are any problems
[09:50] <Homer_Linux> thanks
[09:50] <cypher1_> skewh, sure
[09:50] <Homer_Linux> is that in the standard repos
[09:51] <cypher1_> skewh, you can check "man umask" to understand it better
[09:51] <skewh> cypher1_: will do, thanks
[09:52] <jimdaniels> Flannel: i think my problem is that the external drive is directlx and automagically remounted after umounting. how can i stop this?
[09:52] <jordan> Is there a way to raise the fan speed on my laptop?
[09:52] <AWOSDev> jordan, make it hot, really hot :P
[09:53] <v-man-1> jordan: thats usually done in the bios
[09:53] <skewh> also, for vsftpd, I have one local account's home directory set to the /var/www folder so that when I login to the FTP using that account, I can only access the www folder and everything inside it, is that ok or is there a better way?
[09:53] <tanlaan> hello everyone :D
[09:54] <jordan> v-man-1, I am on a mac so that isn't an option, it is controlled by software anyways isn't it?
[09:55] <tanlaan> i was wondering if anyone could help me figure out a good linux distro for an HP pavilion N5135 laptop with 192mb of ram and a 5gb hard drive.
[09:55] <v-man-1> jordan: dunno about that man, on my PC I can set it in the bios
[09:55] <jordan> v-man-1,  Are you using a laptop?
[09:55] <v-man-1> jordan: no
[09:56] <AWOSDev> Like I said, I just make mine hot :P
[09:56] <jamx> i have a dual boot with winxp and ubuntu, i wanna reinstall winxp.. but that will remove grub. is there an easy way to put grub back after the reinstall of winxp?
[09:56] <jordan> v-man-1, Then mabie your fan speed is fixed and therefore cannot be controlled by software?
[09:57] <cypher1_> which is the best torrent client in ubuntu
[09:57] <AWOSDev> Ktorrent FTW!
[09:58] <v-man-1> i really like KTorrent too but I don't like having both gtk/gnome and kde/qt libs loaded
[09:58] <jordan> cyphase_, That is supjective, I like azureus but some like lighter weight.
[09:58] <v-man-1> i know a few people who run uTorrent through wine and they like it
[09:58] <jordan> * subjective
[09:58] <rasket> how can i login as root in ubuntu xserver ?
[09:58] <skewh> also, for vsftpd, I have one local account's home directory set to the /var/www folder so that when I login to the FTP using that account, I can only access the www folder and everything inside it, is that ok or is there a better way?
[09:58] <jordan> !root
[09:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:59] <rasket> but i cant prefix the command with sudo in gnome
[09:59] <AWOSDev> gksudo
[10:00] <rasket> if i try to start a gnome app i get screen not available
[10:00] <jordan> rasket, How are you trying to start it?
[10:01] <rasket> i have a user who should start with sudo but after    starting .....   window disappear nothing happens
[10:01] <rasket> jordan, just typing the name of the app
[10:01] <skewh> also, for vsftpd, I have one local account's home directory set to the /var/www folder so that when I login to the FTP using that account, I can only access the www folder and everything inside it, is that ok or is there a better way?
[10:03] <J-_> when configuring /etc/hosts when configuring a server, do I put the virtual server ip beside the 127.0.0.1, then localhost? if so, what do i do with the 2nd one below it? hopefully that makes sense.
[10:03] <rasket> is there a text based user management tool _
[10:03] <AWOSDev> useradd
[10:03] <AWOSDev> userdel
[10:03] <AWOSDev> etc...
[10:03] <rasket> with some menues :-) ?
[10:04] <AWOSDev> rasket, that's asking a bit much :)
[10:04] <rasket> or how do i check if a user is in a group ? or adding him to a group ?
[10:05] <jordan> rasket, When you are trying to open an application, are you doing that from an xterm ( like gnome-terminal ) ?
[10:06] <tanlaan> anyone know of a linux distro that would be good for an HP pavilion N5135 laptop with 192mb of ram and a 5 gb hard drive?
[10:06] <rasket> jordan, as root ? no i opened another session with strg+alt f1
[10:06] <antoniac> rasket
[10:06] <antoniac> why not using the userconfig
[10:06] <jordan> rasket, that is why...
[10:06] <Nox2k3> I'm assuming that if I set xserver-xorg's pin priority to -1, it will downgrade the package?
[10:06] <santagada> can someone please help me with this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/62342
[10:06] <AWOSDev> Nox2K3 yes
[10:06] <santagada> ?
[10:06] <Nox2k3> and then apt-get upgrade will downgrade it?
[10:07] <jordan> rasket, To start GUI applications you need to either start them frome an xterminal or tell it what display to use.
[10:07] <rosen37> Hi
[10:07] <pwk> hi
[10:08] <pwk> anyway to change time in ubntu so its right in vmware ?
[10:08] <santagada> i have this problem with gdm that it doesn't show the ubuntu when the computer boot up
[10:08] <santagada> only when I restart gdm by hand
[10:08] <v-man-1> i just cracked my neighbours wep :S
[10:08] <v-man-1>  KEY FOUND! [ 66:6B:AB:30:47 ] 
[10:08] <AWOSDev> v-man-1 :P
[10:08] <rasket> jordan, thanks now i got a window at least, but nothing happens if i start it like it is done in the shortcut (gksudo users-admin) does nothing
[10:08] <antoniac> v-man-1 what did you use? airsnort? kismet?
[10:09] <santagada> then I posted my bug report and I had no answer in 20 days or more
[10:09] <rasket> jordan, starting with (users-admin) a window appears
[10:09] <rosen37> I have a question , I m admin system and I need to change all station from debian(xdm + wmaker)  to Kubuntu. However for each suer a .xsession is currently existing to launch ssh-askpass at the start of the X then exec wmaker. However with this kind of .xsession KDE on ubuntu didn t work I have to replace the exec wmaker by startkde. Is there an otehr solution?
[10:09] <v-man-1> antoniac:  airodump-ng to collect the initialisation vectors, then aircrack-ng to crack the key
[10:09] <santagada> so if someone knows how to fix it I will be very glad
[10:10] <v-man-1> edgy has the aircrack-ng package which includes airodump and other neat tools
[10:10] <POVaddct> v-man-1: also aireplay-ng, or did you just use passive sniffing?
[10:10] <Rookie_> sounds like you have to look on roaming rosen37
[10:10] <rasket> jordan, can i reset the sudo password, after i misstyped it ? there is no prompt anymore
[10:10] <v-man-1> POVaddct: just passive, took 30 minutes to collect 500,000 IVs
[10:10] <santagada> or just take a look at https://launchpad.net/bugs/62342 and say if I missed some important info
[10:10] <Nox2k3> is there any way to dump the contents of my package list and reload it completely?
[10:10] <Nox2k3> like if I removed a repository from the list
[10:10] <wabbit> could someone help me with microphone configuration. I will really appreciate it
[10:10] <AWOSDev> I need help with my external MIDI, it still doesn't work :X
[10:11] <pwk> hi
[10:11] <POVaddct> v-man-1: wow. i see 5 ESSIDs in my neighborhood but none of them makes enough traffic
[10:11] <v-man-1> POVaddct: i havn't patched my card's drivers yet, so no injection for me at this time
[10:11] <Rookie_> !roaming
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <wabbit> I use dapper and have a dv5000 laptop
[10:11] <pwk> i need some help setting up vmware tools
[10:11] <holy_cow> pwk, #vmware
[10:11] <pwk> i see it mounted a cd drive in ubntu
[10:11] <POVaddct> v-man-1: i got patched drivers for my ralink usb wlan stick (rt2570)
[10:11] <AWOSDev> pwk, Yes please go to #vmware
[10:11] <nikin> rosen37: install Wmaker if you want
[10:11] <stat1c> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 and need to run base-config (which has been deprecated). Can someone please tell me how to do what it does manualy?
[10:11] <pwk> k
[10:12] <pwk> but it relates to, how do i install the prgoram
[10:12] <v-man-1> POVaddct: nice, I've got a Linksys card pased on rt2500
[10:12] <santagada> ahh and remember I have ubuntu edgy
[10:12] <v-man-1> *based
[10:12] <holy_cow> #vmware pwk
[10:12] <AWOSDev> pwk, right, the VMWare program
[10:12] <AWOSDev> So go to #VMWare
[10:12] <AWOSDev> ...
[10:12] <POVaddct> v-man-1: i could successfully disassociate my laptop from my AP
[10:12] <pwk> i got a .rpm and a .tar.gz files.. whcih is installer ?
[10:12] <nikin> both :D
[10:13] <Rookie_> !alien
[10:13] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[10:13] <holy_cow> pwk #vmware plz
[10:13] <holy_cow> thats not an ubuntu question
[10:13] <pwk> can anyone guide me trhough installing something ?
[10:13] <jordan> pwk, What are you trying to install?
[10:13] <pwk> k
[10:13] <pwk> sorry
[10:13] <OmniD> Okay I have a problem! My external hard drive takes forever to get things written to it. I think Ubuntu has classified it as a USB 1.1 device when it is very much a 2.0.
[10:13] <Rookie_> pwk - look on alien
[10:13] <holy_cow> its okay, it is a vmwawre question tho
[10:14] <holy_cow> also google, google has A LOT of notes on how to install vmware products
[10:14] <virtual-stargaze> I'll be back later, and I'll have some questions...
[10:14] <rosen37> nikin: no it s ok I did a if then else in the .xsession
[10:14] <pwk> k, looks like i got it
[10:14] <pwk> i opend .tar file
[10:14] <pwk> and extracting now
[10:15] <pwk> thanks
[10:15] <pwk> laters
[10:15] <nikin> rosen37 :D ok
[10:15] <holy_cow> pwk
[10:15] <holy_cow> lol
[10:15] <holy_cow> dude thats not installing it
[10:15] <holy_cow> installing vmware is a longer process
[10:15] <holy_cow> >_>
[10:15] <holy_cow> pls
[10:15] <holy_cow> #vmware
[10:15] <pwk> k
[10:16] <stat1c> can anybody tell me what base-config did? I need to do it manually and i want to make sure i'm not forgetting anything. any help would be appreciated :)
[10:16] <phobiac> I've got ubuntu installed on a seperate partition on my computer, and it's mounted my windows partion as read only. How can I get read and write acess to the drive?
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> !ntfs
[10:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> phobiac: ^^ should explain that.
[10:16] <phobiac> Thank you
[10:16] <livingdaylight> !paste
[10:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:17] <nikin> my dog bited my Ethernet cable in 2 :D any idea of a fast solution?
[10:17] <nikin> its sunday and nothing is open, to buy one
[10:18] <holy_cow> nikin, always make sure to have a splicer and some extra ends
[10:18] <Rookie_> wait until tomorrow ;) ?
[10:18] <holy_cow> >_>
[10:19] <phobiac> Nikin, do you have a modem and is it plugged into a router?
[10:19] <nikin> phomiac: yup
[10:20] <AWOSDev> Plug directly in
[10:20] <phobiac> What AWOS said^
[10:20] <nikin> AWOS: i have to feed 4 computers with net here
[10:20] <jordan> So, anyone know how to change fan speeds on laptops?
[10:20] <AWOSDev> nikin, oops
[10:21] <AWOSDev> nikin, just feed three and leave one out until Monday when Office Depot opens
[10:21] <AWOSDev> :)
[10:22] <nikin> AWOS: yes.. as i see now that will be tha case... but i wanted to reinstall my server :(, and its a nice sunday to do it
[10:22] <AWOSDev> Well then don't unplug the server......?
[10:23] <nikin> the server is the only ompputer with a cable, the other three are notebooks with WLAN
[10:23] <Nox2k3> I'm trying to downgrade X and I believe that I've done this correctly but it doesn't feel like downgrading it, I have a paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26846/. I would much appreciate it if someone could take a look and point out my stupidity.
[10:23] <AWOSDev> Downgrade?
[10:23] <AWOSDev> huh?
[10:23] <AWOSDev> That's the only stupidity I find?
[10:23] <Nox2k3> yeah 7.0.0 doesn't work with fglrx
[10:24] <pwk> hi
[10:24] <pwk> whats a super user ?
[10:24] <AWOSDev> Oh back again
[10:24] <AWOSDev> !su
[10:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:24] <holy_cow> Nox2k3, heh
[10:24] <Rondom> Nox2k3: you only need to disable composite, it does work
[10:24] <nikin> pwk: GOD
[10:24] <nikin> :D
[10:24] <J-_> is there a SSH gui viewer that i can run?
[10:24] <Nox2k3> its telling me that its getting an X version mismatch
[10:24] <Nox2k3> disabling composite will somehow solve that?
[10:24] <AWOSDev> J-_ try fish:// in Konqueror
[10:24] <POVaddct> J-_: what do you mean?
[10:24] <AWOSDev> KDE FTW.
[10:24] <pwk> thxs
[10:25] <Nox2k3> J-_: If you're using Gnome, try using the Places menu and Connect to Server
[10:25] <POVaddct> J-_: do you want ssh login or scp file transfer?
[10:25] <Rondom> Nox2k3: I guess you are using edgy, the packaged version works and I'm pretty sure that the newer version will also work if you disable the version-detection
[10:25] <J-_> ssh login i believe
[10:25] <J-_> (i think anyway)
[10:25] <Nox2k3> I'm not using edgy, and disable the version detection how?
[10:26] <Nox2k3> I have, however, I believe, updated X via the various Compiz/Beryl howtos
[10:26] <J-_> Nox2k3: i'll try that, thanks
[10:26] <Nox2k3> I can't recall as last time I did this was a long time ago
[10:26] <Nox2k3> last time I tried*
[10:26] <POVaddct> J-_: you could try putty (the linux version)
[10:26] <holy_cow> i would just reinstall
[10:26] <Rondom> Nox2k3: ok, well google for the message
[10:26] <holy_cow> by the time you untangle that beryl/xgl crap you would have been done
[10:26] <J-_> i am on putty, there's no gui
[10:26] <L3TUC3> hmm
[10:27] <L3TUC3> I did it in an hour or so
[10:27] <POVaddct> J-_: ssh login is always text.
[10:27] <Nox2k3> holy_cow: Incorrect as I have to run CVSed NetworkManager and hostap garbage to get my wireless to work nice and automagically
[10:27] <J-_> ah ok. lol, thanks
[10:27] <Nox2k3> so I would need to reset all that stuff up
[10:27] <AWOSDev> J-_ you mean you want to browse it, as in like in Nautilus?
[10:27] <J-_> yes
[10:27] <holy_cow> what does that haveto do with anything?
[10:27] <holy_cow> heh
[10:27] <AWOSDev> J-_ personally I use sshfs and mount it
[10:27] <Nox2k3> reinstalling would take longer than untangling
[10:27] <POVaddct> J-_: i think you want X forwarding over ssh. but for that you need a local X server running.
[10:27] <holy_cow> Nox2k3, heh no
[10:28] <AWOSDev> No he just said he wants to browse like Nautilus
[10:28] <holy_cow> Nox2k3, however, go ahead and try
[10:28] <holy_cow> only a friendlyl suggestion, nothing more
[10:28] <POVaddct> J-_: so if you are using putty on windows, you need a X server for windows to use X forwarding on putty.
[10:28] <J-_> i have a LAMP server running, with ubuntu installed.
[10:28] <Nox2k3> Is there not a way to remove a repository from my list, and downgrade to the other repository?
[10:28] <boink> downgrade?
[10:28] <Nox2k3> install older packages
[10:29] <boink> downgrade to another distro?
[10:29] <POVaddct> J-_: a lamp server? then why use a gui anyway? learn to use the shell!
[10:29] <boink> ok .. just edit the /etc/apt/souces.list
[10:29] <J-_> lol, i'm trying =P
[10:29] <jordan> Nox2k3, You could remove the package, remove the repository, and download the package again?
[10:29] <jordan> * download == install.
[10:29] <Nox2k3> I believe I have tried that before for some other package, but I will try again. Time to explode my laptop install.
[10:30] <nikin> J : why you want ssh?
[10:30] <POVaddct> J-_: and while you are at it, take a look at the screen command. very useful when doing ssh remote logins.
[10:30] <mmp> hello; I have ubuntu 6.06 installed, and I tried to use NetworkManager for configuring WPA on Ralink 2500 card; but nm-applet shows just WEP encryption available... .
[10:30] <mmp> And wpa_supplicant seems to be installed correctly.
[10:31] <goofy> i heard that ubuntu is based on debian.....is this true
[10:31] <J-_> nikin: to log into my server/ start editting the linux gazette when i have the time. but more now to log into me server and cofigure it
[10:31] <boink> it's true, goofy
[10:31] <goofy> thanks
[10:31] <boink> ubuntu and debian work closey together as well
[10:31] <J-_> configure**
[10:31] <nikin> J- if you have X installed then just RUN a VNC server
[10:31] <nikin> its ugly
[10:31] <phobiac> How can I log in as root and/or temporarily give my session root access?
[10:31] <holy_cow> mmp, wpa supplicant requires you modify config files manually
[10:31] <nikin> but its remote and GUI
[10:31] <OmniD> My external hard drive takes forever to get things written to it. I think Ubuntu has classified it as a USB 1.1 device when it is very much a 2.0.
[10:32] <holy_cow> network manager doesn't give you wpa interace (yet one would hope)
[10:32] <mmp> holy_cow: networkmanager since 0.6.0 can use wpa_supplicant to configure wireless interfaces.
[10:32] <holy_cow> well then ...
[10:32] <holy_cow> go right ahead :)
[10:32] <nikin> OmniD: was that HD working on the same PC under win?
[10:32] <OmniD> I think so? I don't really know I haven't used it in Windows in forever
[10:33] <OmniD> I don't have a Windows PC near me to try
[10:33] <mmp> holy_cow: I'm not sure what is the problem and I don't have the laptop nearby (in fact, it is not mine at all:)
[10:33] <mmp> I did not play with it much, but it seems it can't correctly start wpa_supplicant "slave" process, or communicate with it.
[10:33] <J-_> Thanks for the help, i'll be back (=
[10:33] <nikin> OmniD: can't be that the PC U use has USB 1.1
[10:34] <rosen37> I installed an ubuntu in my network but I have a prob of dns resolution with it. I can resolv only thing like name.domainname  How can I do to resolv only on the name?
[10:34] <OmniD> Err nope they are all 2.0
[10:34] <OmniD> Not an old PC not even a year old
[10:34] <mmp> rosen37: using 'domain' or 'search keywords iirc
[10:34] <nikin> OmniD : okok
[10:34] <mmp> rosen37: man resolv.conf should give you more details...
[10:35] <nikin> OmniD: do you have any programs like Kinfocenter installed
[10:35] <nikin> ?
[10:35] <Nox2k3> Oh duh, I've just been starting the AIGLX'd X server. I feel dumb.
[10:35] <OmniD> I don't think so
[10:35] <OmniD> Should I install that?
[10:35] <OmniD> Is there a Gnome equivelent?
[10:36] <AWOSDev> Hehe, you're on #ubuntu not #kubuntu nikin :
[10:36] <AWOSDev> )
[10:36] <nikin> OmniD: i exit a ces, and go to Gnome to see brb
[10:36] <OmniD> ... what?
[10:36] <AWOSDev> No clue.
[10:36] <J-_> once I have the server configured, can i unstall ubuntu to free up more resources on the server?
[10:36] <phobiac> How can I log in as root and/or temporarily give my session root access?
[10:37] <Byan> is it possible to set up a network scanner?
[10:37] <holy_cow> phobiac,
[10:37] <holy_cow> !sudo
[10:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:37] <holy_cow> no root on ubuntu
[10:37] <holy_cow> forget about root
[10:38] <AWOSDev> phobiac -- sudo -s
[10:38] <santagada> if someone wants to help me fix my bug just go to https://launchpad.net/bugs/62342 and reply to me there... if it fixes my bug I can even mark it as fixed... and this will help ubuntu :-)
[10:38] <santagada> good night
[10:38] <AWOSDev> santagada G'night
[10:38] <nikin> back
[10:39] <Weber> Would someone please help me fix my fps drop in full screen 3D games ?
[10:39] <phobiac> Sudo in the terminal will give me super user control even in the gui?
[10:39] <AWOSDev> phobiac no
[10:39] <AWOSDev> phobiac gksudo in GNOME, ksudo in KDE
[10:40] <phobiac> Thanks AWOS
[10:40] <AWOSDev> phobiac np
[10:40] <Byan> >_<
[10:40] <nikin> phobiac: only if you run the GUI app from the root terminal
[10:41] <phobiac> gksudo gives me a comman not found error.
[10:41] <phobiac> command*
[10:41] <AWOSDev> I thought it was gksudo
[10:42] <phobiac> To be exact, gksudo gives me a popup messege saying the command is missing. Ksudo just gives a comman not found in the terminal.
[10:42] <shinobi2> how often is ubuntu's repository updated?  i don't see a vim 7.0 in synaptic
[10:43] <AWOSDev> shinobi2, As often as you update it :P
[10:43] <shinobi2> when i type 'cal' the current date is not high lighted, how can i fix that?
[10:44] <Madpilot> shinobi2, programs are not given version updates in released editions of Ubuntu
[10:44] <Byan> so, no one knows if you can share a scanner over the network?
[10:44] <shinobi2> Madpilot: say what?
[10:44] <Laocoon> Byan I might be able to help you
[10:45] <Byan> Laocoon: well, how can I? I have an HP officejet that works with scanimage.
[10:45] <Byan> and I have CUPS working, so I can print from my XP machine
[10:45] <Laocoon> Byan: same here, and it's working!
[10:46] <Madpilot> shinobi2, whatever major version of (for example) vim Ubuntu 6.06.1 has, it will stay with, except for security updates
[10:46] <holy_cow> you will haveto upgrade to the next version when its released to get those packages
[10:47] <frogzoo> I'm experiencing problems creating an LVM volume from the installer, something problem with accessing md2/xx/yyy - does the installer typically do LVM on top of raid (1) properly?
[10:47] <Laocoon> Byan, not registered, huh? ;) Ok, here is the deal: in the /etc/sane.d/saned.conf, add the network mask for your local network.
[10:47] <Byan> Laocoon: just wan't identified
[10:47] <ubund> hi. how to get ane and xasne in xubuntu?
[10:48] <ubund> sane and xsane ^
[10:48] <holy_cow> ubund, apt-get install packagenamehere
[10:50] <frogzoo> can an ATI x850xt vid card be made to work with the proprietary fglrx driver ?
[10:52] <kj-ro> HEEEELP ..... i lost my MBR i think... GRUB hangs ... i see on the entire screen only: GRUB        writen in the upper left corner .. and nothing starts.. i am on liv cd right now...
[10:53] <kj-ro> what to do ???
[10:53] <kj-ro> *live cd*
[10:53] <rosen37> mmp: Ok I found , I needed to add domain mydomain.com in the resolv.conf
[10:54] <kj-ro> i try to do grub-install /dev/hda    -> but i get this: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[10:55] <drumline_> kj-ro: you've googled "repair grub" ?
[10:55] <J-_> can I gksudo my server's LAN ip so i can have root priviledges? lol, *shakes fist @ putty* =D man i'm stoked about connecting into ssh... probably not that big of a deal
[10:55] <kj-ro> yeha.. it says to do the above...
[10:55] <kj-ro> but grub-install is not working...
[10:55] <kj-ro> even if i use hd0
[10:56] <kj-ro> fdisk -l list's me all the partitions.. and they seem to be marked with * ... (boot flag) .... and i gave a check and thay are ok
[10:57] <kj-ro> i even mounted them ... and nothing wrong... so my conclusion : MRB fck-up
[10:57] <kj-ro> then i try grub-install ... and it's not working.... maybe i am missing something....
[10:57] <mariogdlt> hiii
[10:58] <mariogdlt> anyone can help me with amarok???I  want to restore the folder where my lyrics are in cache but i don't know where is this folder!!!
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> Hi mariogdlt
[10:59] <mariogdlt> hi tonyyarusso
[10:59] <POVaddct> kj-ro: you must chroot to your mounted root filesystem and then run grub-install.
[10:59] <holy_cow> mariogdlt, probably in .amarok
[10:59] <mariogdlt> nooo
[10:59] <mariogdlt> i have restored it
[10:59] <holy_cow> open up nautilus, go to your home dir and hit ctrl/h
[10:59] <mariogdlt> all the covers where restored
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> mariogdlt: I'm not familiar with amarok, but I'd start by grepping around where holy_cow said
[10:59] <holy_cow> ah, well then
[10:59] <mariogdlt> but not this
[10:59] <mariogdlt> i'll do
[10:59] <mariogdlt> wait
[10:59] <mariogdlt> thanks
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> mariogdlt: you can expand greps and locates to the whole filesystem if you wish
[11:00] <mariogdlt> .kde/share/apps/
[11:00] <mariogdlt> in this folder
[11:00] <mariogdlt> sorry amarok/
[11:00] <Xteven> hi, where can I find a w32codecs package for ubuntu ?
[11:00] <mariogdlt> but no results to restored the lyrics
[11:00] <AWOSDev> !tell Xteven about restricted
[11:01] <Xteven> thx AWOSDev
[11:01] <kj-ro> i try...
[11:02] <AWOSDev> Xteven np
[11:02] <mariogdlt> i am looking this around the web but i can't finde any solutions
[11:03] <mariogdlt> but thanks anyway
[11:03] <holy_cow> mariogdlt, sorry dude, you lost them
[11:03] <holy_cow> that stuff is usually in .applicationname
[11:03] <holy_cow> mariogdlt, if the files aren't there they aren't there :/
[11:03] <mariogdlt> no, i have problems with my lyrics and i make sometimes backups with a own script
[11:03] <mariogdlt> yes all files aren't there
[11:03] <holy_cow> there is the odd possibility that despite restoring .appfile, the app won't recognize them
[11:04] <mariogdlt> rare
[11:04] <mariogdlt> ahhh
[11:04] <kj-ro> POVadct: still not working
[11:04] <mariogdlt> i didn't know
[11:04] <kj-ro> grub-install --root-directory=/boot --recheck /dev/sda
[11:04] <kj-ro> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[11:04] <kj-ro> /dev/sda: Not found or not a block device.
[11:05] <POVaddct> kj-ro: before going to the chroot environment, do sudo mount --bind /dev/ /mntpointofyourroot/dev
[11:05] <Weber> Would someone please help me fix my fps drop in full screen 3D games ?
[11:06] <O2> hello, can we use debian's software directly?
[11:06] <kj-ro> aha...
[11:06] <AWOSDev> O2 Nooooooooo!  What a horrible way to kill a penguin.  :P
[11:06] <POVaddct> kj-ro: /dev is populated by udev, and udev is running only on the live-cd's /dev directory now
[11:07] <kj-ro> yeah that i found out.. but didn;t know how to deal whit it...
[11:07] <POVaddct> kj-ro: so the bind mount let the /dev content appear in the chrooted env. as well
[11:07] <mariogdlt> i cannot find anything, i will ask for this in the support ok amarok
[11:07] <holy_cow> mariogdlt, just thinkin about your problem you say you have backups
[11:07] <mariogdlt> ok
[11:07] <holy_cow> mariogdlt, surely the backups contain the files, and you should be able to serach the backups directly in some fashion, no?
[11:07] <AWOSDev> mariogdlt, try #amarok
[11:07] <mariogdlt> yes i thy but...
[11:08] <xavier> can someone help me open the HTTP port? am using Guard Dog.. i cannot access the WWW since i installed guard dog.. only the IRC works
[11:08] <AWOSDev> !ask
[11:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:08] <mariogdlt> when i restore a backup all my lyrics wwhere ok
[11:08] <AWOSDev> not the right one...
[11:08] <mariogdlt> but not now
[11:08] <kj-ro> still i get the error whit not found not a block device..
[11:08] <Weber> I have just installed automatix2 wich installed the nvidia driver for my GeForce4 Ti4200. And then I installed cedega. There I tested my graphic card for 3D acceleration (passed) and OpenGL Direct Rendering (passed). So then I installed counter-strike. BUt when I go into the game, I just get big fps drops. Does anyone know what I can do about this ?
[11:08] <mariogdlt> 'cos the lyrics must be in another place
[11:08] <cypher1_> what do i achieve by enabling UPnP in my router ?
[11:09] <AWOSDev> cypher1_ Hackers.
[11:09] <AWOSDev> XD
[11:09] <coulix> anyone tryied to install netbeans from their website ? the /netbeans-5_5-rc1-linux.bin ?
[11:09] <POVaddct> AWOSDev: hehe, right
[11:09] <cypher1_> AWOSDev, Hackers ?
[11:09] <AWOSDev> cypher1_ yes, UPnP is a hacker's dream come true.
[11:09] <coulix> it scans for a java jdk comlains there is none and quit ...
[11:09] <jpjacobs> do i need the alternative install cd for a server install ? or is it also possible with the desktop livecd?
[11:09] <Rur0un1> cyphase, normally routers do not allow inbound traffic. But this brings a problem like, IM programs like MSN does not work correctly
[11:09] <cypher1_> AWOSDev, ok :) thanks
[11:09] <POVaddct> cypher1_: UPnP is insecure by design. don't use it.
[11:09] <coulix> but i have two jdk installed the default one and sun's
[11:09] <cypher1_> POVaddct, ok :)
[11:09] <kj-ro> wait .. mount didn't worked
[11:09] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[11:10] <POVaddct> kj-ro: error message?
[11:10] <POVaddct> kj-ro: if it is longer, don't paste it here
[11:10] <Rur0un1> cyphase, to overcome this UPNP automatically opens the ports for once when needed. Other wise you may not be able to video or voice chat nor file transfers for some IM like MSN
[11:11] <Rur0un1> Security of UPNP is a controversial subject
[11:11] <cyphase> Rur0un1: you mean cypher1
[11:11] <mariogdlt> tonyyarusso and holy_cow, thanks for the help
[11:11] <cyphase> Rur0un1: you mean cypher1_
[11:11] <kj-ro> POVaddct: The file /boot/boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly.
[11:11] <Rur0un1> sorry yes I meant cypher1
[11:11] <holy_cow> mariogdlt, no prob, best of luck
[11:11] <POVaddct> kj-ro: do you have /boot on a separate partition?
[11:11] <mariogdlt> thanks a lot
[11:11] <Rur0un1> cypher1, to overcome this UPNP automatically opens the ports for once when needed. Other wise you may not be able to video or voice chat nor file transfers for some IM like MSN
[11:12] <kj-ro> no
[11:12] <cypher1_> Rur0un1, thanks
[11:12] <POVaddct> kj-ro: anyway, the path /boot/boot/... seems to be wrong
[11:12] <kj-ro> i have installed ubuntu to 1 partition
[11:12] <kj-ro> oppa...
[11:12] <POVaddct> kj-ro: can you read/write irc queries?
[11:12] <kj-ro> yeah your right
[11:12] <cypher1_> i was looking at the UPnP plugin in Ktorrent.. that lead me to the one in router
[11:13] <kj-ro> irc queries ... ? what's that
[11:13] <AWOSDev> that's /msg nick message.
[11:13] <kj-ro> ok it worked i ges
[11:13] <kj-ro> i restart to see
[11:18] <KJ-ro> OHHHH YESSS  it worked THX POVaddct !!!!
[11:18] <POVaddct> KJ-ro: cool :)
[11:18] <andruk> Hello, I am trying to get xgl working on ubuntu dapper.  I have followed the howto at http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189, and have gotten throgh the ATi driver setup (I have a Radeon 9000).  He says the quality of the display should be improved after a reboot, but it's not.  My screen is all washed out (and its not the brightness level on my monitor either).  Can anybody...
[11:18] <andruk> ...point me to a good guide or walkthrough for getting xgl setup?
[11:18] <KJ-ro> now i am off... see ya..
[11:19] <Flannel> andruk: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL questions
[11:19] <andruk> thx
[11:20] <Leumas> hey, i'm trying to connect to a linux samba share using a windows computer, and it says i don't have permissions. How do i set permissions for samba access in Ubuntu?
[11:21] <Leumas> ("linux samba" seems redundant)
[11:21] <Flannel> !tell Leumas about samba
[11:21] <AWOSDev> Leumas try typing "man smb.conf" on the Konsole
[11:21] <AWOSDev> :)
[11:21] <Leumas> i looked in there, didn't see anything about permissions
[11:21] <v-man-1> Leumas: on the share, you have to set read priviledges for other users
[11:21] <Flannel> Leumas: read the link the bot sent you
[11:22] <v-man-1> so say your share is called 'warez', you would type chmod -R o+r warez to give recursive read rights to all other users for that share
[11:22] <Axord> !tell Axord about samba
[11:22] <EVRAMP> !tell EVRAMP about samba
[11:22] <AWOSDev> Hehe, share name warez, LOL
[11:22] <v-man-1> thats what mine is called
[11:23] <AWOSDev> It's funny because it's true!
[11:23] <Axord> Mmmm delicious documentation.
[11:24] <coulix> i forgot how do we switch java version, something alternative command.
[11:24] <POVaddct> coulix: update-alternatives
[11:25] <coulix> thanks :)
[11:26] <Xteven> !tell Xteven about dual head
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual head - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Xteven> !tell Xteven about dualhead
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualhead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Xteven> :(
[11:26] <Xteven> any idea how I can have totem, vlc or mplayer play a movie on my other screen ?
[11:27] <Uzzi> hi
[11:28] <Uzzi> someone ubuntu-lite developer?
[11:28] <AWOSDev> I'm an OS developer, but not for Ubuntu, sorry :(
[11:28] <AWOSDev> I best be off, g'night everyone
[11:28] <holy_cow> AWOSDev, prey tell, what os is it?
[11:28] <holy_cow> :)
[11:28] <Uzzi> hi
[11:28] <AWOSDev> AWOS
[11:28] <AWOSDev> hehe
[11:29] <Axord> Heh
[11:29] <AWOSDev> http://code.google.com/p/awos
[11:29] <AWOSDev> Go ahead, laugh.  Laugh at my little OS!  They laughed at Linus Torvalds too!
[11:29] <Uzzi> I have a Pentium 133 with 38ram, I want to try ubuntu lite, but I'have not boot from cd support
[11:30] <AWOSDev> I have a Penitum 100 with 40MB RAM and I run FreeBSD 4.10
[11:30] <J-_> holy shnikies, website site accessible by internet =D happiest night, i mean morning EVER!
[11:30] <holy_cow> AWOSDev, :) all cool, ya gotta do what you think is fun/usefull
[11:30] <AWOSDev> even runs Firefox....slllooowwwwwlllyyyy
[11:30] <POVaddct> Uzzi: take a look at smart boot manager (sbm)
[11:30] <AWOSDev> holy_cow I know :)
[11:30] <frogzoo> doesn't look like the dapper install will allow creating an LVM volume inside a raid 0 volume
[11:30] <Flannel> frogzoo: grab the Alternate ISO
[11:30] <frogzoo> Flannel: I'm running text install from the DVD
[11:30] <Uzzi> POVaddct, tnks
[11:30] <Axord> !tell Axord about multi monitor
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multi monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <Flannel> !tell Axord about xinerama
[11:31] <Axord> Oooh
[11:31] <Uzzi> It's possible to use X on that machine?
[11:31] <POVaddct> Uzzi: i think 38mb is too few memory for that
[11:31] <frogzoo> AWOSDev: disabled ipv6 dns in ff ?
[11:31] <AWOSDev> ?
[11:32] <AWOSDev> Uzzi, yes it's possible!
[11:32] <Uzzi> good
[11:32] <Flannel> !tell AWOSDev about ipv6
[11:32] <POVaddct> Uzzi: but i don't know which window manager / desktop environment ubuntu lite is using
[11:32] <teferra> i rearranged my paritions. the partition numbers are changed. any way to get my system back without reinstalling?
[11:32] <AWOSDev> Why does everybody critisise me for using a P100!
[11:32] <Leumas> how do i restart a daemon?
[11:32] <AWOSDev> Oh you weren't?
[11:32] <Uzzi> fluxbox
[11:32] <AWOSDev> I used fvwm95 on my P100 :)
[11:32] <Leumas> without shutting down?
[11:32] <POVaddct> Uzzi: okay, and which kernel?
[11:33] <POVaddct> AWOSDev: but certainly on a older distro
[11:33] <Uzzi> this i don't know
[11:33] <Dybber> Hi!, I have a problem with my network connection. It doesnt work when I start Ubuntu, I need to go to network-preferences and disable and reenable it.
[11:33] <AWOSDev> POVaddct, FreeBSD 4.10 (circa 1999) actually
[11:33] <POVaddct> AWOSDev: try to run a 2.6 kernel and recent Xorg on such a machine. it will fail.
[11:33] <ubund> zeluu to wiesz jak z ta orientacja u mnie?
[11:33] <POVaddct> AWOSDev: or at least it will swap itself to death
[11:33] <deltab> teferra: what problems is that causing?
[11:33] <AWOSDev> POVaddct, that's my next project, even got a 6GB HD to try it out!
[11:34] <AWOSDev> Let me hear a w00t from all the people with old computers and proud!
[11:34] <Uzzi> 850mb hd
[11:34] <ubund> how to change orientation from horizontal to vertical in xsane?
[11:34] <AWOSDev> 770MB HD original factory
[11:34] <deltab> Leumas: which one?
[11:34] <Leumas> smbd
[11:34] <POVaddct> Uzzi: i'd try damn small linux, vector linux or something similar on that machine
[11:34] <Leumas> samba
[11:34] <POVaddct> Uzzi: something kernel 2.4 based
[11:35] <Uzzi> dsl---->kernel panic
[11:35] <deltab> Leumas: is it in System/Administration/Services?
[11:35] <POVaddct> Uzzi: well, dsl being a live cd does need some ram for its ramdisk
[11:36] <Leumas> yup
[11:36] <teferra> deltab: grub. I gave grub the new partition number and it did boot, but after what it seems starting the kernel it failes. i get an error message with the old partition number.
[11:36] <Leumas> ha, don't worry, i got it i think
[11:36] <Leumas> thanks
[11:36] <deltab> what error?
[11:36] <AWOSDev> Well I'm gonna try and run Kubuntu on my P100
[11:36] <Leumas> what is Kubuntu?
[11:36] <AWOSDev> I'll report back tomorrow with a "help!  Kubuntu won't run on a P100!" message :)
[11:36] <deltab> Leumas: Ubunutu with KDE
[11:36] <AWOSDev> !kubuntu
[11:36] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:36] <POVaddct> AWOSDev: hehe
[11:36] <frogzoo> Leumas: ubuntu with kde as default
[11:36] <Leumas> aaaah, k
[11:37] <CoOlGhOsT> what to do to get the files in a deb listed?
[11:37] <teferra> detab: i have to go back and start it. But is there a way to restore grub first with the new partition numbers.
[11:38] <dyl> hi all
[11:38] <AWOSDev> Well g'night all
[11:38] <AWOSDev> 5:36am EDT = bedtime :)
[11:38] <dyl> is it possible to update ubuntu from a live cd
[11:38] <dyl> erm ubuntu = breezy
[11:38] <POVaddct> Uzzi: i have an older version of dsl here, just trying to boot in qemu with 38mb ram. hmm, no luck, kernel panic too...
[11:38] <jpjacobs> hi! How do i resize the default ugly ubuntu-vc to some reasonable resolution?
[11:38] <Flannel> dyl: no
[11:38] <ubund> zeluu nie dziala tak
[11:38] <deltab> teferra: you can change the partition grub boots from, yes
[11:38] <Flannel> dyl: only the alternate can be used as a repository
[11:38] <dyl> fuck ok thanks
[11:39] <dyl> ok
[11:39] <CoOlGhOsT> more correctly.... how do I list the files in a package thats in a reposotory?
[11:39] <AWOSDev> !language
[11:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:39] <dyl> ill mess around with it
[11:39] <Uzzi> mmmmmmmm
[11:39] <deltab> teferra: to access the filesystems, change the device names in /etc/fstab or better yet use labels
[11:40] <Flannel> CoOlGhOsT: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:40] <CoOlGhOsT> Flannel: no way of doing it with a apt-* tool?
[11:40] <teferra> deltab: thanx i will try that and come back
[11:41] <deltab> teferra: do you know how to?
[11:41] <AWOSDev> Well g'night all
[11:41] <Flannel> CoOlGhOsT: not without installing first
[11:41] <POVaddct> gn8 AWOSDev
[11:41] <teferra> delatab: livecd?
[11:41] <Bassetts> what would you guys do with a 166MHz 64mb laptop?
[11:41] <CoOlGhOsT> Flannel: any reason why it is so??? RPM does this and is somewhat inferior to apt-* in my opinion
[11:42] <deltab> teferra: yes; then you can mount the partition with /etc manually
[11:42] <frogzoo> Bassetts: that'll run fine in text mode
[11:42] <POVaddct> Bassetts: run it as a wlan fake hotspot :)
[11:42] <Flannel> CoOlGhOsT: because the package info isn't downloaded beforehand.  You could download the package and it'll tell you.  but not while it's 'just' in the repository
[11:42] <Bassetts> POVaddct, how would that be useful?? =S
[11:43] <Bassetts> frogzoo, cool, would give me experience with the terminal
[11:43] <Byan> can someone tell me how to use fax on linux? HPLIP supports it
[11:43] <deltab> teferra: use  e2label /dev/hda2 whatever  to label partitions, and  LABEL=whatever  in place of the device name in /etc/fstab
[11:43] <POVaddct> Bassetts: for catching curious wlan "hackers"
[11:43] <CoOlGhOsT> Flannel: OK... I'll use the metadata on packages.ubuntu.com.. Thanks :-)
[11:44] <deltab> teferra: and you may have to edit /etc/grub.conf and run grub to make it boot without a live cd
[11:44] <teferra> deltab: thanx.  I wil
[11:45] <teferra> deltab: that is a lot info. is there any where i can read about this process
[11:45] <webben> I'd like it to have a easy key combination i can press to get curly quotes just like on the Mac in all gnome apps... has anyone got any idea (or even better know a howto) for how to do that?
[11:46] <frogzoo> webben: xev & xmodmap
[11:46] <J-_> why would i need a DNS server running on a LAMP server?
[11:46] <Flannel> J-_: you don't
[11:46] <J-_> Flannel: what would be the purpose?
[11:46] <frogzoo> J-_: you don't
[11:46] <deltab> J-_: a caching resolver or a content server?
[11:47] <J-_> content server (personal website)
[11:47] <frogzoo> J-_: though it would speed up redirects
[11:48] <deltab> frogzoo: how?
[11:48] <martianul`> hello
[11:48] <martianul`> i have a little question , if someone have some time :P
[11:49] <Uzzi> sigh smbk bad!
[11:50] <J-_> so just leave the dns server out i guess? it says to install it in this tutorial i'm using as a guide, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[11:51] <Flannel> J-_: That 'howto' is really poor
[11:51] <frogzoo> J-_: for a low traffic setup, you don't need a dns server
[11:51] <Bassetts> frogzoo, how would i just install the text mode? I have only ever used the desktop version
[11:51] <Flannel> !tell J-_ about lamp
[11:51] <martianul`> hello :D
[11:52] <J-_> the howto might be poor, but I go apache running from it =D
[11:52] <frogzoo> Bassetts: do a server install I think
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> martianul`: just ask your question
[11:52] <Bassetts> ok
[11:52] <Flannel> J-_: THAT howto is better.  coupled with one of the mail server howtos, you'll be setup.  But yeah, that howto forge one gets away from the ubuntu way of doing some stuff
[11:52] <Flannel> J-_: read the ubuntu howto, it tells you everything you need
[11:52] <martianul`> i have ubuntu 6.06 and someone tells me that this version of ubuntu works on a 2 Gb hdd
[11:52] <martianul`> si i try to install it on 2 Gb hdd and at 75% it tells me that is no more space
[11:53] <martianul`> how can i make it to install on a 2 Gb hdd?
[11:53] <J-_> where is the ubuntu howto located?
[11:53] <TheGateKeeper> martianul`: the install takes a minimum of 4Gb with a desktop
[11:53] <frogzoo> !lamp > J-_
[11:53] <J-_> thanks
[11:53] <martianul`> wow, so i must get a bigger hdd? :(
[11:54] <martianul`> someone tells me that ubuntu with all what you need , needs a 1 gb hdd :D
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> martianul`: you might be able to run a version without a desktop (or possible using fluxbox not sure) on 2Gb
[11:54] <martianul`> okay, so how i can install ubuntu with no desktop?
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> martianul`: without a desktop maybe
[11:55] <Flannel> martianul`: grab the alternate ISO, type "server" at the boot prompt
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> martianul`: use the server version
[11:55] <Flannel> TheGateKeeper: no, not the server version
[11:55] <martianul`> aaaaa ...
[11:55] <martianul`> so i must get a bigger hdd
[11:55] <Flannel> martianul`: essentially, yes.
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> martianul`: yep the alternative cd sorry
[11:56] <martianul`> but i can`t choose what program to install and what program to not install?
[11:56] <J-_> i'll know next time to use that tutorial, but for now til i mess up this server i'm going to use the tutorial i've been using =D i just need to get it running smoothly.. thanks for the help though, always appreciated
[11:56] <Flannel> martianul`: if you install the alternate/GUI less one, yes you can
[11:56] <martianul`> because i see that it installs games and programs that i don`t need :D
[11:56] <Flannel> martianul`: you'll just install them one at a time
[11:56] <Flannel> martianul`: although, I'm still not sure it'll all fit
[11:57] <martianul`> so with my cd i can`t remove the programs that i don`t need ?
[11:57] <Flannel> martianul`: only after the install.  so no
[11:57] <martianul`> of
[11:57] <martianul`> and the alternate cd? which one is it? :D
[11:57] <Flannel> martianul`: the "alternate" instead of the "desktop"
[11:58] <martianul`> and with the alternate version i  can choose what programs to install? before installing? :D
[11:58] <J-_> can't believe i was with windows for so long, man was i missing something!(linux)
[11:58] <Flannel> martianul`: no, you'll install the base system (type "server" at the first prompt) then you'll install stuff manually after its all setup
[11:59] <martianul`> so after i install alternate, it will be with no desktop? just console? :D
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> yep
[11:59] <Flannel> martianul`: right.  then you'll add a desktop
[11:59] <martianul`> okay, thanks :D
[11:59] <notwist> Hey, I'm trying to share some folders via SMB to my Xbox. Problem is the only thing being shared is the folder itself, not all the folders beneath it. So, how do I make SMB understand that I want to share the _entire_ folder + subfolders?
[11:59] <martianul`> i`ll try later with a bigger hdd :)
[12:00] <martianul`> thanks ;)
[12:00] <notwist> It requires a logon as soon as i hit a subfolder
[12:00] <martianul`> have a nice day
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> martianul`: buy a cheep computer for 30 then you can install a desktop version no problem
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> damn too late...
[12:00] <isolationx> hi
[12:01] <joris> how do i turn the sounds on the inlog screen off? System -> preferences -> sound doesn't turn this off....?
[12:01] <joris> any idea
[12:02] <isolationx> go to sounds, and turn it off
[12:02] <slackern> System->Admin->Login Window or something like that
[12:03] <isolationx> yeah
[12:03] <slackern> There is a sound option there for GDM the loginmanager
[12:03] <isolationx> is it possible to have 1280*1024 screen resolution?
[12:03] <Flannel> isolationx: sure
[12:03] <deltab> System>Prefs>Screen Res
[12:04] <isolationx> doesn't show
[12:04] <joris> cool thanks will check now.. i have to work in library sometimes and the it's annoying
[12:04] <Flannel> !tell isolationx about fixres
[12:04] <New1> helllo all
[12:04] <isolationx> it only shows 1024*whatnot..
[12:04] <isolationx> fixres?
[12:05] <Flannel> isolationx: check your queries from ubotu
[12:05] <notwist> Hey, I'm trying to share some folders via SMB to my Xbox. Problem is the only thing being shared is the folder itself, not all the folders beneath it. So, how do I make SMB understand that I want to share the _entire_ folder + subfolders?
[12:05] <NEw1> I am trying to use SWAT to modify samaba (Trying to create a PDC) and looking at the HOWTOs there were no buttons displayed other than HOME STATUS VIEW PASSWORD and nothign else to make changes.. the wizard woudl be nice.  is there somethign I shoudl be doing?
[12:06] <acke1> hey where do i find the loginwindows config file? where I can configure options for using gnome kde or other windowsmanagers?
[12:06] <davvs> is there any command to convert from hex to dec?
[12:06] <davvs> in the commandline that is
[12:07] <blujay> How can I capture a child process's PID in a Bash script?
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> acke1: Would be easier to just use the Sessions menu in gdm I would think.
[12:08] <acke1> tonyyarusso: well thats prolly what i am after.. where to find it?
[12:09] <acke1> i had to compile my own fluxbox. cause i didnt get a menu from the deb package
[12:10] <acke1> and i would want to select it from the sessions menu
[12:10] <NEw1> how do I change SWAT to be more than just a config viewer and enable me to edit and configure?
[12:11] <tonyyarusso> acke1: When you first start up the box, or log out, the screen asking for username and password to log in has a button on the bottom, and under Sessions there you can choose any environment installed.  If you choose one other than the current default for that user, it will ask if you want to set it as default or use it once only.
[12:12] <acke1> tonyyarusso: thanks. it will work even if i compiled fluxbox myself?
[12:13] <tonyyarusso> acke1: That I'm not sure of, since I've never done it, but if not you could do it manually, it's just that that would be more work.  If you're the type to compile though, I'd imagine you can figure that out okay if it is necessary.
[12:14] <acke1> tonyyarusso: yeah im asking about the configfiles needed to manually config it. ;)
[12:15] <acke1> ive done it before.. but my memory is very bad. but when thinking about it. i vaguely remeber doing that when installing e17
[12:15] <acke1> ;)
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> acke1: Stop talking circles around me!  (Sorry, it's really late...)  Um,
[12:15] <rawrness> night all sleep well and wake
[12:18] <tonyyarusso> acke1: See if http://www.sharplabs.com:8668/space/Fluxbox sounds familiar
[12:20] <acke1> tonyyarusso: looks promising thanks
[12:20] <tonyyarusso> acke1: Also, http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=44551
[12:21] <tonyyarusso> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fluxbox#Generating_.7E.2F.fluxbox.2Fmenu
[12:21] <bun-bun> !tor
[12:21] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[12:22] <notwist> Hey, I'm trying to share some folders via SMB to my Xbox. Problem is the only thing being shared is the folder itself, not all the folders beneath it. So, how do I make SMB understand that I want to share the _entire_ folder + subfolders?
[12:23] <acke1> tonyyarusso: it might work. but the paths are all wrong in both cases. but well see. thanks
[12:25] <pontusen> heya. Sometimes my mouse/keyboard seems to stop working for a few seconds, When i try to press/type at another window it works again. help?
[12:29] <bun-bun> !cafuego
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cafuego - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <bun-bun> !easyubuntu
[12:29] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:29] <acke1> tonyyarusso: worked great thanks. the paths was wrong. but i figured it out.. thanks alot. sry but i have one more n00b question. how do i do rmdir folder, when folder isnt empty.
[12:29] <acke1> :()
[12:31] <acke1> i havent figured it out. and i am always cheating.. >P
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> acke1: There's an option for that, you can check the rmdir man, but I think it's (honestly) --ignore-fail-on-non-empty
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> Crazy long switch
[12:31] <POVaddct> acke1: man rm, look for options -r and -f
[12:31] <acke1> tonyyarusso: i did but heey yeah i saw that switch there got to be an easyier switch.
[12:31] <acke1> POVaddct: thanks
[12:32] <acke1> tonyyarusso: thanks alot for the help with the sessions. :D
[12:32] <J-_> mysqladmin -u root password yourrootsqlpassword     what do they mean by that, "root password yourrootsqlpassword " ???
[12:34] <jimdaniels> each time i run synaptic it says that there is an erro (since i installed vmwareplayer) and i should make" dpkg --configure -a"
[12:34] <jimdaniels> how can i stop this?
[12:34] <jimdaniels> it'S terrible!
[12:34] <J-_> that weird, i put my root name, password, then the sql password i want and it didn't work
[12:35] <ubutom> jimdaniels, how about doing dpkg --configure -a? ;)
[12:35] <jimdaniels> ubutom: as i said it comes each time i start synaptic. i did config like 4 times now!
[12:35] <TheGateKeeper> J-_: sound like: msysqadmin -u [password you use to log into linux as root]  [password you use to log into myssql] 
[12:36] <J-_> i'll try that, thanks
[12:36] <ubutom> mmh, try a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:36] <Dybber> is it possible to get emacs running fullscreen in ubuntu?
[12:37] <jimdaniels> ubutom: then the vm configuration comes up again
[12:37] <jimdaniels> lol
[12:37] <jimdaniels> then i press yes a few times
[12:37] <J-_> TheGateKeeper: just trying to set a username/password for mysql, is there another way to do it?
[12:37] <coulix> is there a way of taking of the window border of one window ?
[12:37] <jimdaniels> and it closese with error message 1
[12:37] <Dybber> Im currently using another windowmanager ratpoison when i want to go fullscreen
[12:38] <coulix> ah gnome doesnt do it ?
[12:38] <TheGateKeeper> J-_: sorry I haven't setup mysql in linux, you would have to consult the wiki info on the ubuntu site
[12:39] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows how I get rid of this error: 'ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:762:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream' ?
[12:39] <TheGateKeeper> J-_: I was only trying to interpret what you said for you
[12:40] <jimdaniels> Dybber: hahahaha
[12:40] <jimdaniels> your window manager is the best
[12:40] <jimdaniels> lmao
[12:40] <jimdaniels> i'm reading http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/inspiration.html
[12:40] <Dybber> :)
[12:41] <TheGateKeeper> J-_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[12:41] <coulix> ahah http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/shot2.png
[12:42] <Dybber> coulix, yea its nice!
[12:43] <xerxest> hello
[12:43] <xerxest> anyone can be my ubuntu guru??
[12:43] <xerxest> i am new to ubuntu
[12:43] <jimdaniels> aaa everytime i try to install a pack i have to do the stupid vmware configuration
[12:43] <jimdaniels> what can i do?
[12:44] <xerxest> u have the same problem with me jim
[12:44] <jimdaniels> really? what did you install. vmwareplayeR?
[12:45] <xerxest> i am new to ubuntu
[12:45] <xerxest> jim... i know nothing about ubuntu
[12:45] <xerxest> so many things  i don't understand
[12:45] <jimdaniels> xer cause you said you had the same problem lol
[12:46] <jimdaniels> you will make it trust me it's not as hard as it seams like at the beginning
[12:46] <bun-bun> does anyone have privoxy up and running?
[12:46] <xerxest> the same problem of not knowing the problem hehehehe
[12:47] <jimdaniels> i know the problem lol
[12:47] <jimdaniels> Probing for an unused private subnet (this can take some time) omg i can't read this anymore
[12:47] <xerxest> sorry jim i misunderstood
[12:47] <jimdaniels> it's a plague
[12:47] <jimdaniels> it's a bad bug i had this in dapper too
[12:48] <xerxest> jim... i think the nickname 'devil' could help you
[12:48] <xerxest> but i didn't see him jim
[12:51] <barrigatenplatea> hi
[12:51] <notwist> barrigatenplatea: hi :)
[12:55] <antonmb> anybody here has experience with mod_mono? i just realized that the pages were in .asp and .js; will mod_mono still be able to host these? or do they have to be .aspx (.NET)?
[12:55] <pontusen> heya, I cant get my back/forward buttons on my mx518 to work, i have changed xorg.conf properly?
[12:57] <frogzoo> pontusen: pastebin xorg.conf
[12:57] <POVaddct> can someone please try this: http://84.179.103.38:8200/cgi-bin/runpov.cgi
[12:58] <gnomefreak> POVaddct: looks ok
[12:59] <POVaddct> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:59] <voltz> works here
[12:59] <meatface> hey
[12:59] <POVaddct> gnomefreak: i am testing if the cgi script allows only one povray instance
[12:59] <gnomefreak> POVaddct: you didnt say what it should look like so im assuming blask with words
[01:00] <slackern> worked here too
[01:00] <POVaddct> slackern: did you get a message "busy" or some raytraced spheres?
[01:00] <pontusen> frogzoo, the relevant part : http://pastebin.com/806886
[01:01] <slackern> I'm getting different rendered bubbles mostly :)
[01:01] <POVaddct> slackern: okay :)
[01:01] <noobie0057> hi, I'm having trouble playing a dvd,, I rented it from blockbuster,, it has an exe file on it ??
[01:02] <frogzoo> damn pastebin's slow
[01:02] <jerns1> noobie0057: if it's a DVD it should have a VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS directory as well
[01:03] <pontusen> frogzoo, want another pastebin?
[01:03] <noobie0057> it has that,, in it there is a VOB file,, it is corrupted when I play it
[01:04] <pontusen> frogzoo, http://pastebin.ca/203730
[01:04] <frogzoo> EndSection
[01:04] <jerns1> noobie0057: you don't open the vobs usually
[01:04] <jerns1> your DVD player should handle it wit no problem
[01:04] <jerns1> if you have DVD support installed
[01:04] <noobie0057> jerns1: I didn't know what it was, so just tried it
[01:04] <pontusen> frogzoo, talking to me? What about endsection?
[01:04] <noobie0057> jerns1: Usually when I insert a DVD MPlayer starts playing it
[01:05] <noobie0057> jerns1: Now it won't, when I open MPlayer it can play the first 13 seconds then it goes black. MPlayer is not crashed,, it seems like it can't go to the next chapter
[01:05] <Kubu> hello
[01:06] <Kubu> does anyone use ndiswrapper in edgy?
[01:06] <frogzoo> pontusen: you want 3 lines  "        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"  &&            Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"  &&           Option      "Resolution" "800"
[01:06] <jerns1> what about totem ?
[01:07] <jerns1> or ogle
[01:07] <noobie0057> I'm confused about MPlayer and totem,, I thought they were the same,, VLC can't play it either
[01:08] <mart_> hi, can anyone help me with a sound problem
[01:08] <mart_> trying to play sounds in a game while talking on teamspeak.
[01:08] <mart_> found a way of enabling it, but get permission denied when i type the code
[01:09] <mart_>  sudo echo 'RedOchestra.exe 0 0 direct' > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[01:09] <jerns1> mplayer is not the same as totem at all
[01:09] <xav> mart_, you can't use sudo there
[01:09] <mart_> ah..
[01:09] <xav> mart_, sudo sh -c "echo ... > ..."
[01:10] <xav> mart_, which snd card?
[01:10] <mart_> in built
[01:10] <marchello> hi there !!
[01:10] <mart_> on an asus motherboard
[01:10] <xav> mart_, oh wait
[01:10] <xav> mart_, games sound work fine without teamspeak?
[01:10] <mart_> yep
[01:10] <mart_> then when teamspeak is running
[01:10] <mart_> it takes over
[01:10] <xav> mart_, this command is not for this problem
[01:10] <pontusen> frogzoo, thanks, will try that now!
[01:10] <marchello> hi someone can help me?
[01:10] <xav> I don't think so at least
[01:11] <noobie0057> jerns1: Is it a matter of finding a player that can understand the new copywrite? (btw the root directory has a file dvd_rom.exe)
[01:11] <mart_> lol, ive been looking for a week and though id finally found something
[01:11] <marchello> hi someone can help me? i need help for one driver ....
[01:11] <jerns1> noobie0057: if you can play other DVDs and not this one it mnight use a new protection scheme that I'm not aware of
[01:11] <xav> mart_, what does red orchestra and teamspeak use for sound?
[01:12] <xav> mart_, they don't work with alsa?
[01:12] <mart_> i belive they use alsa
[01:12] <mart_> I checked and i am running alsa
[01:12] <mart_> when i run any game it works fine
[01:12] <xav> the apps need to support it
[01:12] <xav> otherwise it uses oss emulation
[01:12] <noobie0057> jerns1: thanks for your help. Is there some linux community I should post this to?
[01:12] <mart_> right, im running red orchestra through wine
[01:13] <xav> with oss emulation, I don't think several apps can use sound
[01:13] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: winecfg
[01:13] <mart_> it does play sound when teamspeak isnt running
[01:13] <xav> oh
[01:13] <Shadowpillar_> set it to use alsa
[01:13] <xav> red orchestra doesnt work natively?
[01:13] <mart_> nope
[01:13] <Shadowpillar_> no
[01:13] <Shadowpillar_> needs wine
[01:13] <Shadowpillar_> also
[01:13] <mart_> runs through steam
[01:13] <Shadowpillar_> you have an onboard card?
[01:13] <mart_> yep
[01:13] <Shadowpillar_> prolly why
[01:13] <xav> what about teamspeak?
[01:13] <Shadowpillar_> I'm betting...
[01:13] <Shadowpillar_> ich?
[01:13] <mart_> teamspeak sound is perfect
[01:14] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: lspci | grep ICH <-- tell me if something comes up
[01:14] <xav> Shadowpillar_, you should be able to use dmix in any case
[01:14] <xav> as long as all apps are using alsa
[01:14] <mart_> no
[01:14] <Shadowpillar_> xav: what I was just getting to
[01:15] <Shadowpillar_> xav: I can use dmix with oss emulation as well
[01:15] <Shadowpillar_> it's possible
[01:15] <Shadowpillar_> it's surround that's the bitch.
[01:15] <mart_> 2 Shi**y old speakers here
[01:15] <mart_> closest i get to surround is turning my head real fast :P
[01:16] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: lspci | grep audio
[01:16] <xav> Shadowpillar_, oh sorry, I didn't know that worked
[01:16] <mart_> 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[01:16] <xav> I thought it was the problem
[01:17] <xav> what's the problem is oss emulation works with dmix then?
[01:17] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: is the kernel module snd_intel8x0 loaded?
[01:17] <xav> Shadowpillar_, what card do you have?
[01:17] <Shadowpillar_> onboard
[01:17] <mart_> how do i check?
[01:17] <mart_> sorry, im very new to linux
[01:17] <xav> Shadowpillar_, and it works for you?
[01:17] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: lsmod | grep intel8x0
[01:17] <mart_> steep learning curve
[01:17] <Shadowpillar_> xav: yeah some .asoundrc hackery
[01:17] <xav> well that's what he needs then
[01:18] <mart_> a list comes up when i type that
[01:18] <mart_> looks like its being used
[01:18] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: you're using wine, right?
[01:18] <mart_> yes
[01:18] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: yeah you havet he same sound chip as I
[01:18] <Shadowpillar_> have the*
[01:18] <mart_> sweet
[01:18] <mart_> bonus :)
[01:18] <xav> mart_, yep that's probably the one you're using
[01:18] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: set the audio driver to alsa with winecfg
[01:19] <Shadowpillar_> type winecfg
[01:19] <Shadowpillar_> and go to the audio tab
[01:19] <mart_> right
[01:19] <mart_> ah...
[01:19] <mart_> right
[01:19] <xav> Shadowpillar_, please explain me
[01:19] <quantik> I have a problem: i must recompile a kernel with gcc 2.95, but in the packages repositories, it only exists in i386, but I have an Athlon64, and the amd64 version of ubuntu installed. What can I do?
[01:19] <mart_> ahh its got oss ticked
[01:19] <xav> you said oss emulation worked with dmix
[01:19] <Shadowpillar_> yeah
[01:19] <xav> so?
[01:19] <xav> he doesn't need to change
[01:20] <Shadowpillar_> xav: best to use alsa with wine
[01:20] <xav> besides, wine sometimes (often?) works better with oss than alsa for some reason
[01:20] <xav> that's a bit stupid though, because it's still using alsa in the end (oss emulation). but that's the way it is
[01:20] <bintut> hello all..
[01:20] <bintut> anyone running amd64 here?
[01:20] <mart_> yes
[01:20] <Shadowpillar_> but you have a layer to go through with the oss emulation
[01:21] <Shadowpillar_> more overhead
[01:21] <xav> probably right
[01:21] <Shadowpillar_> bintut: yeah
[01:21] <bintut> i'm wondering why ubuntu amd64 on my amd turion64 laptop is very, very slow..
[01:21] <noobie0057> thanks
[01:21] <quantik> can someone help me with gcc 2.95 please?
[01:21] <Shadowpillar_> bintut: what are the exact symptoms?
[01:21] <mart_> ive ticked alsa, gonna go give it a try
[01:21] <jerns1> does someone know how to fix this: I have some divx's and DVDs that have AC3 sound. The problem is that I have only two speakers and that I only hear the surround sound and not the center channel so that I have no voices...
[01:21] <bintut> Shadowpillar_: just slow
[01:22] <Shadowpillar_> bintut: define slow, slow as in apps take a while to load, or slow as in it's slow to respond?
[01:22] <Shadowpillar_> or all of the above
[01:22] <bintut> all of the above
[01:23] <bintut> i only experience this with ubuntu
[01:23] <bintut> but with other distro, this is fast
[01:23] <Shadowpillar_> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz
[01:23] <Shadowpillar_> see how fast the cpu is running out
[01:23] <Shadowpillar_> might have to do with the powernowd daemon
[01:23] <xav> bintut, is it slow since the beginning?
[01:24] <Shadowpillar_> at*
[01:24] <Shadowpillar_> sleeping pills tend to make me a bit bleh
[01:24] <notwist> how come i get no sound in flash-based video (like youtube) but in xmms and everything else?
[01:24] <Shadowpillar_> onboard sound?
[01:24] <quantik> can someone help me with gcc 2.95 please?
[01:24] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: yeah, its on my mobo
[01:24] <Shadowpillar_> no multiplexing
[01:25] <Shadowpillar_> er
[01:25] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: meaning?
[01:25] <Shadowpillar_> no hardware mixing
[01:25] <Shadowpillar_> install aoss
[01:25] <notwist> it's a package?
[01:25] <Shadowpillar_> yeah
[01:25] <xav> why can't they use your .asoundrc ?
[01:25] <Shadowpillar_> because it isnt fool-proof
[01:25] <notwist> I'm a noob, I have no idea what you're talking about
[01:25] <Shadowpillar_> also, I tried sending it
[01:26] <Shadowpillar_> slow down damnit, one at a time
[01:26] <notwist> i thought xav was talking to me
[01:26] <notwist> nevermind
[01:26] <Shadowpillar_> anyway sudo apt-get install aoss
[01:26] <jolantal> hi all i have problems configuring wine, is there anyone to help me?
[01:26] <notwist> This package contains a program loader, aoss, which wraps
[01:26] <notwist> applications written for OSS in a compatibility library,
[01:26] <notwist> thus allowing them to work with ALSA.
[01:26] <notwist> it's in synaptic
[01:27] <bintut> Shadowpillar_: 1800
[01:27] <fliegenderfrosch> where has the "Disks" program of gnome gone in edgy?
[01:27] <xav> anyway
[01:27] <xav> if teamspeak doesn't support alsa, making wine use alsa won't solve the problem
[01:27] <bintut> xav: yes. slow after my first restart
[01:27] <xav> from various forum report, it doesn't seem it support alsa. or maybe the support is recent?
[01:27] <Shadowpillar_> bintut: type "uptime"
[01:27] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:28] <notwist> i have closed down xmms and firefox and everything
[01:28] <dany-r5> hi everyone, could someone help an ubuntu newbie with a problem?
[01:28] <notwist> i only have gaim running
[01:28] <Shadowpillar_> notwist: install it
[01:28] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: ...i cant, i get an erorr?
[01:28] <SmartUnix> Hello
[01:28] <xav> notwist, do you have something in systray?
[01:28] <camer0n> quick question about apache2 ... wondering where i set the default filetype aka html to htm or php, etc?
[01:28] <notwist> rtorrent, thunderbird, terminal, gedit, gaim
[01:28] <notwist> that's it
[01:29] <bintut>  19:27:42 up 21 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.85, 0.86, 0.89
[01:29] <kiran> Hi, could someone help me out with some compiling problems in C? when i compile file.c,i get an error which says: stdio.h: no such file or directory
[01:29] <quantik> I have a problem: i must recompile a kernel with gcc 2.95, but in the packages repositories, it only exists in i386, but I have an Athlon64, and the amd64 version of ubuntu installed. What can I do?
[01:29] <Shadowpillar_> notwist: then after it does its thing, sudo pico /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[01:29] <Shadowpillar_> notwist: because synaptic is running ;)
[01:29] <Shadowpillar_> notwist: as long as you have synaptic running, install it with that
[01:29] <nick|here> which ncurses packages needed for menuconfig?
[01:29] <Gothica> hi people! Does anybody knows who to leave root session and return to "user" mode, after command "sudo -i" in UBUNTU?
[01:29] <Shadowpillar_> bintut: odd, nothing seems to be putting load on the system
[01:30] <dany-r5> someone could help me with the instalation of build-essential, please?
[01:30] <Ropechoborra> How do i install a .deb package from a terminal?
[01:30] <Shadowpillar_> I dunno what to tell you
[01:30] <camer0n> quick question about apache2 ... wondering where i set the default filetype aka html to htm or php, etc?
[01:30] <Shadowpillar_> Gothica: exit?
[01:30] <xav> nick|here, libncurses dev or something
[01:30] <Gothica> Shadowpillar_ yes
[01:30] <camer0n> have been looking around the config files but nothing at the moment
[01:30] <Shadowpillar_> Ropechoborra: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:30] <notwist> Gothica: i think he means the command "exit"
[01:30] <Ropechoborra> Thanks! =)
[01:30] <Shadowpillar_> Gothica: I mean, type "exit"
[01:30] <Shadowpillar_> type the word
[01:30] <Shadowpillar_> voila
[01:31] <xav> bintut, wow thats a huge load
[01:31] <Gothica> Shadowpillar_, hm-m thx
[01:31] <Gothica> i 'll try it
[01:31] <[h] tony|afk> moin
[01:31] <Shadowpillar_> notwist: so did you install aoss?
[01:31] <xav> wow there were way too many questions
[01:31] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: gedit works fine instead of pico, right?
[01:31] <notwist> doing it now
[01:31] <kiran> Hi, could someone help me out with some compiling problems in gcc? when i compile file.c,i get an error which says: stdio.h: no such file or directory
[01:31] <xav> I can't manage it :p
[01:31] <Shadowpillar_> yeah
[01:32] <bintut> Shadowpillar_: yeah. that's what i thought
[01:32] <Shadowpillar_> xav: and I'm barely wake
[01:32] <Shadowpillar_> melatonin makes you sleepy
[01:32] <vinboy> should I use ext3 or reiserfs?
[01:32] <mart_> lol
[01:32] <xav> kiran, install libc6-dev maybe
[01:32] <xav> vinboy, ext3
[01:32] <dany-r5>  i need some help with my ubuntu, someone could spend little time with me?
[01:32] <mart_> sorry... no sound. but there is a change
[01:32] <bintut> xav: huge load?  :(
[01:32] <Shadowpillar_> vinboy: ext3
[01:32] <vinboy> xav: ok thanks
[01:32] <mart_> my mouse doesnt work in the game :P
[01:32] <xav> bintut, yep, what do you see in top?
[01:32] <Shadowpillar_> vinboy: reiser trashed my system
[01:32] <Shadowpillar_> vinboy: it's fast, but unstable
[01:32] <vinboy> thx Shadowpillar_
[01:32] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: so what to do in firefoxrc
[01:32] <kiran> xav, tnx, i'll try it out
[01:32] <xav> mart_, lol
[01:33] <Jof> hi
[01:33] <Jof> anyone here running xgl?
[01:33] <mart_> how wierd is that
[01:33] <xav> mart_, you switched from oss to alsa, and that made you lose your mouse?
[01:33] <xav> Jof, no
[01:33] <SmartUnix> i am using Ubuntu 6.06 , i want compile Gaim 1.5.0 from source , when i run "./configure" it's show for me these errors http://paste.lisp.org/display/27994
[01:33] <Shadowpillar_> notwist: do you see a FIREFOX_DSP line?
[01:33] <mart_> jof i used to
[01:33] <xav> Jof, ubuntu-xgl I believe
[01:33] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: yea
[01:33] <bintut> xav: xorg, firefox and xchat only
[01:33] <quantik> I have a problem: i must recompile a kernel with gcc 2.95, but in the packages repositories, it only exists in i386, but I have an Athlon64, and the amd64 version of ubuntu installed. What can I do?
[01:33] <Shadowpillar_> notwist: set it to aoss
[01:33] <mart_> xav: yep
[01:33] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: ok, thanks
[01:33] <mart_> wierd huh?
[01:33] <Jof> does anybody know, if xgl works over xdmcp??
[01:33] <xav> bintut, yep but how much cpu are they using?
[01:33] <SmartUnix> so what should i do to aviod these errors
[01:33] <Shadowpillar_> restart firefox and see what happens
[01:34] <mart_> ah...
[01:34] <mart_> ive just gone into winecfg
[01:34] <Shadowpillar_> xav: already established nothing is eating his cpu
[01:34] <vinboy> how is every buddy here?
[01:34] <mart_> and now alsa is missing from the top?
[01:34] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: works like a charm
[01:34] <notwist> thanks
[01:34] <dany-r5> i am near to get mad, does someone read me?
[01:34] <mart_> its there, but no box to tick
[01:34] <Shadowpillar_> SmartUnix: why do you want to compile it from source?
[01:34] <Shadowpillar_> notwist: no prob
[01:34] <xav> Shadowpillar_, oops sorry, where?
[01:34] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: what's there?
[01:35] <Shadowpillar_> had him post his uptime
[01:35] <Shadowpillar_> cpu load is average
[01:35] <mart_> esound oss and nas
[01:35] <mart_> i have alsa back now
[01:35] <Jof> does anybody know, if xgl works over xdmcp??
[01:35] <mart_> it comes back with a tickbox when i close teamspeak
[01:35] <SmartUnix> try to make my first hack in my life :)
[01:35] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: are you 32 bit or 64 bit?
[01:35] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: so what is aoss, some sounddriver for onboard motherboards?
[01:35] <mart_> 64
[01:35] <Gothica> hm-m it's work.. but the problem is: i try to mount ntfs system with ROOT: "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/D" ... then when i try to enter in dir /mnt/D (session under USER, not ROOT), -> so it write, that i don't have permisson on the folder /mnt/D... what should I do?
[01:35] <Shadowpillar_> SmartUnix: what are you trying to do?
[01:35] <Shadowpillar_> notwist: oss wrapper
[01:36] <xav> Shadowpillar_, , I found it a bit high
[01:36] <notwist> Shadowpillar_: tells me nothing :)
[01:36] <SmartUnix> some changes in the source code then compile it
[01:36] <Shadowpillar_> got two options, oss emulation via drivers, or an oss wrappr, with flash in firefox, even if you have things set up for mixing oss emulation, it still won't work unless you use aoss
[01:36] <xav> notwist, the description in synaptic told you what it is
[01:36] <Shadowpillar_>  04:36:59 up 4 days,  4:32,  2 users,  load average: 0.13, 0.19, 0.25
[01:37] <xav> yep thats better
[01:37] <dany-r5> I need some help, could someone where I can find it? could someone help me?
[01:37] <Shadowpillar_> xav: that's my uptime ;)
[01:37] <xav> yes, that's more normal imo
[01:37] <frogzoo> dany-r5: just say what your problem is - people who can answer will
[01:37] <mart_> how do you get that shadowpillar?
[01:37] <Shadowpillar_> /exec -o uptime
[01:37] <xav> 0.8 isn't
[01:37] <Gothica> so... does anybody know how decide ,y problem?
[01:37] <dany-r5> thank you frogzoo
[01:37] <Shadowpillar_> SmartUnix: like what?
[01:38] <dany-r5> my problem is when I write "sudo make" it say "command not found"
[01:38] <xav>  13:38:27 up  1:53,  2 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.11, 0.15
[01:38] <xav> dan2, apt-get install build-essential
[01:38] <dany-r5> so I try to install build-essential and make, but I can't
[01:38] <Shadowpillar_> !build-essential
[01:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:38] <mart_> shadowpillar: you are busy, if you have anymore ideas let me know
[01:38] <xav> dany-r5, why can't you?
[01:39] <Ropechoborra> dany-r5 sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:39] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: more like I am tired and about to go to bed
[01:39] <mart_> lol
[01:39] <xav> mart_, try #winehq
[01:39] <Shadowpillar_> !build-essential > dany-r5
[01:39] <bintut> xav: almost idle
[01:39] <SmartUnix> firstly sorry for my bad English , now i want make some changes in the Gaim labels as first try then when i be good in Gaim code i want improve it to work fine with Arabic language
[01:39] <mart_> looked there, bloody annying its the only thing that still makes me go back to windows :P
[01:39] <xav> bintut, are you sure?
[01:39] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: also, I suggest using the latest versions of wine provided by winehq.org
[01:40] <mart_> many thanks for the help, both of you :)
[01:40] <Shadowpillar_> mart_: the ubuntu repository
[01:40] <mart_> i have that
[01:40] <Shadowpillar_> ah cool
[01:40] <Shadowpillar_> most people dont
[01:40] <mart_> reinstalled ubuntu and everyone only about a week ago
[01:40] <xav> SmartUnix, try #gaim maybe ?
[01:40] <mart_> cause i installed xgl and its rubbish :P
[01:40] <Shadowpillar_> to be fair, I dont think wine should be included by default in ubuntu
[01:41] <xav> you reinstalled everyone? :d
[01:41] <dany-r5> xav, it doesn't work
[01:41] <mart_> hehe
[01:41] <SmartUnix> no body in this channel , i will try debian . thanks
[01:41] <mart_> yes, everyone, i give all my apps their own name
[01:41] <xav> dany-r5, hey you said that three times at least, but never why
[01:41] <dany-r5> it say "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?"
[01:41] <xav> dany-r5, just make it work
[01:41] <Shadowpillar_> been using ubuntu since last year
[01:41] <SmartUnix> this channel i mean #Gaim :)
[01:41] <xav> are you root?
[01:41] <Shadowpillar_> been using linux since '02
[01:41] <xav> -> use sudo for root privilege
[01:42] <dany-r5> what does it means?
[01:42] <mart_> im old school, been using since september :P
[01:42] <Shadowpillar_> kde 2.2.2 lol.
[01:42] <xav> Shadowpillar_, really?
[01:42] <xav> Shadowpillar_, I don't remember which version it was when I started
[01:42] <Ropechoborra> dany-r5 you have an other package mananger open
[01:42] <Shadowpillar_> back when kde and gnome were ugly and everyone saw them as "eye candy"
[01:42] <ravehanker> Hello, My window manager seems to be broken in my login alone. I can't see any minimize or maximise buttons and keyboards shortcuts don't work. My bottom panel refuses to show workspaces. But it seems ok in other accounts. what do i do?
[01:42] <xav> Shadowpillar_, :d
[01:42] <Shadowpillar_> I was using mandrake 8.2
[01:43] <dany-r5> I don't know what "i'm root" means
[01:43] <Ropechoborra> dany-r5 or u didnt got root privileges
[01:43] <ravehanker> I'm using Gnome in Ubuntu edgy
[01:43] <frogzoo> ravehanker: what did you do is the question ?
[01:43] <xav> ah I think I started with 9 or something, but I'm not too sure
[01:43] <dany-r5> what is the way to get root privileges?
[01:43] <Shadowpillar_> you newbies are lucky compared to what I had to go through when I was new to linux
[01:43] <xav> anyway, gtg
[01:43] <frogzoo> ravehanker: edgy (which is beta) support -> #ubuntu+1
[01:43] <Shadowpillar_> wine didnt even run applications ;)
[01:43] <xav> Shadowpillar_, well, some ppl started way before that
[01:43] <ravehanker> frogzoo:- thanks
[01:43] <Shadowpillar_> it ran some old win 3.1 apps marginally and some console apps
[01:44] <Shadowpillar_> xav: well duh.
[01:44] <Ropechoborra> dany-r5 The root is the system administrator... your user is not root but you got access to his privileges by typing 'sudo' before any comand
[01:44] <dany-r5> I am the administrator, and I type sudo before all the commands
[01:44] <Shadowpillar_> it being able to run flash and firefox and games is amazing compared to the sorry state it was in back in '02
[01:44] <dany-r5> but it does't work anyway
[01:44] <Nothing_about> hey does anyone here use VMware to emulate ubuntu version 6.06
[01:44] <Ropechoborra> dany-r5 why not? what does it says?
[01:45] <Ropechoborra> *say
[01:45] <dany-r5> it said "E: can't find the build-essential packet"
[01:45] <bintut> xav: well, i have an average cpu usage for xorg at not less than 7.0
[01:45] <Nothing_about> i need to know if anyone here can help me , how do i install ubuntu using vmware , ALSO going into ubuntu live cd mode to install ubuntu
[01:45] <keitheis> allright, finally a simple answer about locales selection menu: http://tlug.dnho.net/?q=node/237
[01:45] <Nazzy> I am having a problem with my Ubuntu could anyone help me please?
[01:46] <Nazzy> Am I in the right place for technical support?
[01:47] <dany-r5> I translate it the best I can because my ubuntu is in spanish
[01:47] <Ropechoborra> dany-r5 you dont have the repositories activated.. go to 'System' > Admin > Software Properties (or something like that) and enable all the repositories
[01:47] <Ropechoborra> !sources
[01:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:47] <Ropechoborra> !sources > dany-r5
[01:48] <Ropechoborra> dany-r5 do you speak spanish?
[01:48] <dany-r5> i will see, thank you
[01:48] <Nazzy> Could anyone help me with my mouse configuration? I am using Genius IntelliPro Serial Mouse, I don't know why its not working for me so I had to use my keyboard. Please if anyone could help. Thanks
[01:48] <xavier> is there a better way to connect via pppoe?? without console?
[01:49] <bintut> this is really strange with ubuntu on my amd turion64 laptop..  :(
[01:49] <dany-r5> i must mark all things in installation support?
[01:49] <Ropechoborra> dany-r5 i did...
[01:49] <Ropechoborra> dany-r5 hablas espaol?
[01:49] <dany-r5> si ropechoborra
[01:49] <Ropechoborra> dany-r5 vamos a #ubuntu-es entonces =)
[01:50] <dany-r5> ok, gracias
[01:52] <Nazzy> hi seveas could you help me on my mouse configuration please?
[01:52] <quantik> I have a problem: i must recompile a kernel with gcc 2.95, but in the packages repositories, it only exists in i386, but I have an Athlon64, and the amd64 version of ubuntu installed. What can I do?
[01:53] <POVaddct> quantik: why do you have to use gcc 2.95 for that?
[01:53] <KurtKraut> quantik, just for curiosity... why do you need to recompile a kernel ?
[01:53] <Shadowpillar_> quantik: if you're new to linux, I suggest sitting back a few more releases before making use of 64 bit
[01:53] <Nazzy> come on guys!!! :(
[01:53] <quantik> because i have a speedtouch internal PCI modem and I finilly found the patch, but it recquire the gcc 2.95..
[01:53] <Shadowpillar_> quantik: otherwise, try downloading the i386 version manually and installing it with dpkg -i
[01:53] <Nazzy> could any of you help me
[01:53] <Shadowpillar_> quantik: and pray
[01:53] <Shadowpillar_> anyway
[01:54] <Nazzy> ;)
[01:54] <xavier> hi.. i am using 9 ppp connections right now .. when i run ip route show
[01:54] <rpc> guys, do i need to keep /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin? or is it ok to remove them?
[01:54] <xavier> when only the 9th is active .. i am going mad dialing 9 times to connect to the internet! everytime my isp disconnects me
[01:54] <quantik> ah I can force the install of a package?
[01:54] <POVaddct> Nazzy: i think nobody here uses serial mice anymore
[01:55] <Jaak_> why doesn't my resolution settings show all the resolutions in xorg.conf?
[01:55] <alex_> What is the name of the auto-updater in ubuntu ? It seems automaticly change source list of repositories ?
[01:56] <POVaddct> quantik: does the speedtouch driver have binary portions (.o files)? then compiling for amd64 will probably be impossible
[01:57] <iturk> hi there i have installed beamer using apt and the userguide tell me to go to installation directory but i dont know in which place has this application been installed !! Can i find the place of installation knowing the package name ??
[01:57] <quantik> yes it has itex.o file
[01:57] <POVaddct> quantik: that is the problem with binary only (or partly binary) drivers...
[01:58] <bintut> anybody can help me here on how can i make my ubuntu install even faster?  :(
[01:58] <KurtKraut> bintut, thru the Alternate CD instead of Desktop CD
[01:58] <soundray> iturk: dpkg -L beamer
[01:58] <quantik> will the i386 unbuntu CD work with an athlon, so *sigh* i canb just reinstall everything...
[01:59] <bintut> KurtKraut: you mean, install?  yes, i did it already
[01:59] <tritonx> i386 will work on pretty much everything
[01:59] <KurtKraut> bintut, you said 'ubuntu install' ... so say 'an ubuntu installed'
[01:59] <POVaddct> quantik: the i386 version should work on amd64
[01:59] <quantik> thanks, i was afraid of that answer ;)
[02:00] <bintut> i'm wondering why ubuntu amd64 on my amd turion64 laptop is very, very slow..
[02:00] <frogzoo> quantik: on an athlon, your best bet is 686 - it's fast (however only 32 bit) but well supported
[02:00] <POVaddct> frogzoo: but that would be the i386 cd, or is there a specific i686 cd?
[02:00] <bintut> KurtKraut: it's my 4th time to install ubuntu on different ways
[02:00] <soundray> frogzoo: why not k7?
[02:00] <quantik> but i have to use I386 so that gcc 2.95 will install and work
[02:01] <yrjo> Hi,can you help me with a problem?
[02:01] <KurtKraut> bintut, it still ambiguous what you want. You just want to make ubuntu faster after you installed it or you want to make the installation process faster ?
[02:01] <bintut> even in console, before the characters that i encode, it takes seconds before the characters will appear
[02:01] <tritonx> can anyone help me tune my mail-server, I can msg locally, but the service doesn't receive incoming mail even though port 143 is open
[02:02] <bintut> KurtKraut: i already installed ubuntu.. and i'm wondering why this is very, very slow
[02:02] <Jaak_> !ati
[02:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:02] <POVaddct> quantik: i'd say kick the internal modem and connect a external one. winmodem cause all kinds of problems even if they are supported.
[02:03] <yrjo> Can I get hostname yrjo?
[02:03] <KurtKraut> bintut, how fast is your processor and how much RAM do you have ?
[02:04] <bintut> KurtKraut: 1.8ghz amd turion64 @ 512ram. my laptop is fast with other distros
[02:05] <tritonx> turion , it that like a duron for 64bit ?
[02:05] <Riot777> nope
[02:05] <lupine_85> turion++
[02:05] <KurtKraut> bintut, it should'nt be slow but you have to consider that Ubuntu loads a lot of stuff in order to offer some services, like bluetooth
[02:05] <tritonx> ty
[02:05] <Riot777> sempron is like duron
[02:05] <lupine_85> brum brum :)
[02:05] <lupine_85> maybe it's being speedstep'd ?
[02:05] <KurtKraut> bintut, are you feeling the system slow as a whole or only during specific tasks ?
[02:06] <soundray> tritonx: no, turion is a low-power version of the Athlon64/Opteron architecture
[02:06] <frogzoo> POVaddct: you just need to install linux-686
[02:06] <bintut> KurtKraut: i know. but it's not the reason. it's really something with xorg or what that eats a lot of cpu..
[02:06] <bintut> KurtKraut: slow as a whole
[02:06] <KurtKraut> bintut, what Ubuntu version are you using ?
[02:06] <frogzoo> soundray: if k7 means 64bit, then it means accepting the support for 64bit, which isn't as robust as 32
[02:06] <bintut> 6.06.1
[02:07] <POVaddct> frogzoo: but that's only the kernel compiled for i686, the userspace still remains compiled for i386
[02:07] <marchello> i have ibmx206 with sas/sata controller i need adp94xx.ko for ubuntu .... some one can help me?
[02:07] <soundray> frogzoo: k7 is 32bit. k8 is 64
[02:07] <frogzoo> soundray: ah, I c - so then k7 for best results
[02:07] <KurtKraut> bintut, try to install the video driver.
[02:07] <KurtKraut> binarydigit, it should give you a better performance
[02:08] <KurtKraut> bintut, it should give you a better performance
[02:08] <bintut> KurtKraut: what video driver? i'm already using fglrx here
[02:08] <KurtKraut> bintut, hmmm
[02:09] <marchello> i have ibmx206 with sas/sata controller i need adp94xx.ko for ubuntu .... some one can help me?
[02:09] <soundray> frogzoo: btw, 64bit is rock solid in my experience. Only trouble is with commercial stuff like Flash
[02:09] <KurtKraut> bintut, can you do a bechmark ? Measure precisely how long tasks takes ? I think you may be suffering from a placebo efftct. It should'nt be slow with your config
[02:10] <frogzoo> soundray: sure, but flash is pretty essential
[02:10] <POVaddct> soundray: and trouble with partly binary drivers
[02:11] <soundray> KurtKraut: if it takes seconds for a character to appear after typing, that isn't a placebo (nocebo to be precise) effect.
[02:11] <soundray> frogzoo: just don't spread rumours of instability when the problem is merely compatibility
[02:12] <frogzoo> bintut: which process does top say is taking all your cpu ?
[02:12] <age6racer> Hi all, I have a problem with my hard drive. It has some errors on it. It's ext3 formatted, how can I fix these errors?
[02:12] <KurtKraut> soundray, this deserve some investigation. Ubuntu will be slow to load, because it loads a bunch of stuff that no distro loads at boot. But during the use, it shouldn't be slow. Your symptom shows that something is wrong
[02:12] <frogzoo> soundray: support != instability
[02:12] <soundray> KurtKraut: it's not mine, it's what bintut said a few minutes ago.
[02:13] <age6racer> Is there an equivalent to Windows chkdsk in Ubuntu?
[02:13] <KurtKraut> soundray, so, I think this deserve an investigation and a bug report. My computer has less RAM that he has and I have no problem. I do even play 3d games here.
[02:14] <jUggERNAUt1980> hi!  how do i use ndiswrapper to install my new belkin wireless card??
[02:14] <POVaddct> age6racer: man fsck
[02:14] <lupine_85> !ndiswrapper
[02:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:14] <POVaddct> age6racer: do NOT run fsck on mounted filesystems
[02:14] <soundray> frogzoo: sorry, I read something into your words that you didn't say (because you used the word "robust").
[02:14] <age6racer> ok thanks POVaddct
[02:15] <pc> downloaded 6.06.1 install disk yesterday, and couldn't boot without adding ide=nodma ... known problem?
[02:15] <raghu206> whats the purpose having switching desktops?
[02:16] <xav> bintut, oh I'm just thinking, which graphic card do you have?
[02:16] <soundray> raghu206: do you mean workspaces?
[02:16] <raghu206> soundray, yah
[02:17] <Zaggynl> Anyone in here plays Warcraft3 with wine?
[02:17] <JamieBE> Does anyone know if there is an Ubuntu OS for my mobile phone?
[02:17] <[NoX] > !seen Celeste
[02:17] <ubotu> I last saw Celeste (n=Celeste@85.237.25.71) 2h 9m 8s ago, quiting: Client Quit
[02:17] <soundray> raghu206: you can dedicate different workspaces to different tasks. I usually have a workspace for gimp work, one for email, one for system admin, and firefox windows with relevant pages open on all of them.
[02:17] <Zaggynl> !warcraft3
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warcraft3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <raghu206> soundray, i can do this having a single desktop
[02:18] <[Yatta] > I'm trying to run another X seesion by typing "startx -- :1"  but it says it cant do it?
[02:19] <soundray> raghu206: you certainly can. It's still convenient to have several workspaces.
[02:19] <[Yatta] > isnt that the way to run more than one xsession??
[02:19] <soundray> [Yatta] : what does it say about the reason for not doing it?
[02:19] <xav> [Yatta] , what's the error? I believe you've to allow it
[02:20] <gandolfthewizard> hi how are you this morning
[02:20] <xav> [Yatta] , you could try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[02:20] <soundray> fanfriggingtastic
[02:20] <[Yatta] > startx -- :1    gives me unrecognized option ?!?!
[02:20] <gandolfthewizard> i have a quetion?
[02:21] <xav> [Yatta] , huh?
[02:21] <soundray> [Yatta] : are you running Xgl?
[02:21] <gandolfthewizard> can you run mirc scripts on linux
[02:21] <[Yatta] > umm yeah
[02:21] <xav> oh
[02:22] <soundray> gandolfthewizard: no (from what I hear)
[02:22] <[Yatta] > well i'm running beryl
[02:22] <soundray> [Yatta] : switch back to Xorg, then it should work.
[02:22] <gandolfthewizard> is there any wy to get into msn chat based chat rooms
[02:22] <[Yatta] > ohhhhh..... ok
[02:22] <soundray> gandolfthewizard: I believe you can with gaim
[02:23] <gandolfthewizard> how?
[02:23] <[Yatta] > what is the best way to add fvwm to my gdm ??? i installed fvwm via source
[02:23] <Ze4lot> hi there, does anybody know if there is pcmcia support for toshiba p10 series notebook?
[02:23] <soundray> !gaim
[02:23] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:24] <soundray> Ze4lot: are you planning to buy, or are you experiencing difficulties?
[02:24] <Ze4lot> Ze4lot: the second one =)
[02:24] <Ze4lot> oooops
[02:24] <Ze4lot> soundray: the second one
[02:24] <lupine_85> <[Yatta] >, just add a session
[02:24] <soundray> Ze4lot: what's the trouble then?
[02:24] <lupine_85> look in /usr/share/xsessions
[02:24] <Ze4lot> soundray: I've already used ubuntu a month ago in this notebook, but i didn't get pcmcia support out of the box
[02:25] <Ze4lot> and googling didn't help
[02:25] <KurtKraut> How can I split a compressed file into to files of the same size ?
[02:25] <POVaddct> KurtKraut: man split  (split -b ...)
[02:26] <soundray> KurtKraut: man split
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[02:27] <[Yatta] > lupine_85,  Granted they say xgl will not wirk with FVWM.... but have u tried it by anychance???
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[02:27] <Bassetts> whats a good music player for XP? I hate having to use WMP when I have to use XP
[02:27] <ianmacgregor> !bash
[02:27] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:28] <berent> vcd query
[02:28] <lupine_85> [Yatta] : nope. Never used fvwm
[02:28] <jrib> Bassetts: foobar2000 is nice
[02:28] <berent> i cant play a vcd from cdrom
[02:28] <Bassetts> ill take a look
[02:28] <rpc> foobar2000 for linux?
[02:28] <POVaddct> KurtKraut: man split  (split -b ...)  you can join the parts later with: cat xaa xab xac ... > joined.tgz
[02:28] <berent> but can rip it and play
[02:28] <berent> what can be the issue
[02:28] <Ze4lot> ..funny.. bye
[02:28] <jrib> rpc: he asked for XP
[02:28] <soundray> Ze4lot: hey
[02:28] <Ze4lot> soundray: no no
[02:29] <rpc> oh, ok :)
[02:29] <KurtKraut> POVaddct, but this splited file must be joined by a windows user. How can he join them ?
[02:29] <Ze4lot> i was refferring to the bots =)
[02:29] <dorto> does avidemux do anything more/other than what transcode does? (i.e. is there a need to install avidemux if transcode is already installed?)
[02:29] <soundray> Ze4lot: okay
[02:29] <rpc> yesz foobar2000 is the best... coded by a former winamp coder
[02:29] <dorto> for converting dvds to avi(xvid)
[02:29] <soundray> Ze4lot: what PCMCIA card(s) do you have that won't work?
[02:29] <POVaddct> KurtKraut: copy /b xaa+xab+... joined.tgz   can do that
[02:29] <Ze4lot> soundray: however, there should be some kind of support for ToPIC100
[02:29] <rpc> there is no bloatware in foobar2000 at all
[02:29] <Ze4lot> which is the pci to cardbus bridge
[02:29] <Ze4lot> installed in my notebook
[02:29] <KurtKraut> POVaddct, thanks... but the format must be tgz ?
[02:30] <rpc> guys do you have a clue how to disable caching in w3m? i do POST often and files are being cached for no reason
[02:30] <Mogz> can I get smb support for banshee?
[02:30] <POVaddct> KurtKraut: no, it can be anything
[02:30] <Ze4lot> uhm, let's try with the livecd
[02:30] <Ze4lot> see ya later
[02:30] <chrishoeppner> Hi
[02:30] <POVaddct> KurtKraut: .tgz was just an example
[02:30] <chrishoeppner> anyone can tell me why my gui ftp clients only do 1 transfer at a time? when transferring 1200+ small files it can be... boring.
[02:31] <berent> chrishoeppner : tar them and send
[02:31] <POVaddct> chrishoeppner: why use ftp for that anyway? use ssh and tar.
[02:31] <chrishoeppner> if i had shell access i wouldn't be complaining ;)
[02:32] <rpc> ftp = evil
[02:32] <KurtKraut> POVaddct, thanks
[02:32] <POVaddct> chrishoeppner: hmmm. i wonder why ftp still lives. it's such a braindead protocol.
[02:32] <rpc> i would rather send files via https :)
[02:32] <berent> whats stopping u from tarring them
[02:33] <chrishoeppner> berent, the unability to untar them on the other side.
[02:33] <berent> ok
[02:33] <catalytic> Hi all
[02:33] <chrishoeppner> rpc, https?
[02:33] <catalytic> i am trying to download the alternate live cd for xubuntu
[02:33] <rpc> chrishoeppner what's on the other side that stops you from untaring files?
[02:34] <chrishoeppner> rpc, a shared web server from mediatemple.
[02:34] <rpc> oh i read you
[02:34] <catalytic> and everytime i try to download it from xubuntu.org
[02:34] <chrishoeppner> again... if i had shell access i wouldn't be complaining. really.
[02:34] <catalytic> it times out half way, very frustrating, does anyone else know of a mirror for the alternate live cd for xubuntu?
[02:34] <cypher1_> is it good to go to 6.10 edgy eft from 6.06 dapper drake ? or is there is too many unstability in 6.10 now ?
[02:36] <rpc> chrishoeppner do you do that often? alot of files?
[02:36] <rpc> chrishoeppner i would be able to find a solution then...
[02:37] <KurtKraut> POVaddct, do you know any graphical way to split/join files ? The compressor that comes with Ubuntu lacks on this feature
[02:37] <chrishoeppner> rpc, yeah. i usually develop locally and then mass upload everything...
[02:37] <rpc> KurtKraut rar is good at that... no need to gui even, it's really simple
[02:37] <soundray> cypher1_: if you don't mind fixing occasional problems, you can go to 6.10 now. If you want a solid system, wait till 26 Oct
[02:38] <rpc> chrishoeppner do you need gui?
[02:38] <POVaddct> KurtKraut: don't know. anyway, split is just for splitting, it is not a compressor. so you have to compress first and then split the resulting files.
[02:38] <POVaddct> *file
[02:38] <KurtKraut> rpc, I can handle a terminal operation. But you have to agree with me this is not user-friendly. This is not for humans
[02:38] <kyja> is there a reason why the generic audio cd player would crash gnome-power-manager and a half a dozen other apps ?? it might not me that either. just that that the only new thing I started using.
[02:38] <chrishoeppner> rpc, no. as far as i can tell "upload everything in this folder into that folder" it's ok
[02:38] <rpc> POVaddct nah, you can compress with 0 level of compression and request splitting at the same time
[02:38] <KurtKraut> POVaddct, ok, I do understand that. Let me ask again: is there a GUI for split ?
[02:38] <rpc> chrishoeppner i hear you
[02:38] <cypher1_> soundray, thanks.. i will wait for 26 oct since it is not that far :)
[02:39] <POVaddct> KurtKraut: sorry, i don't use guis for that
[02:39] <POVaddct> KurtKraut: so i dont know
[02:39] <soundray> cypher1_: I put 6.10 on one of my non-essential machines and haven't had the slightest problem.
[02:39] <cypher1_> soundray, ok
[02:40] <rpc> rar x -m0 -v50000 arch_name file - this would cut a given file into 50MB chunks
[02:40] <rpc> err rar a
[02:40] <Gyuszk> guys, I've installed artwiz cursor, and it works, but when I log in using GDM, it falls back to Human. where can I set this default value to artwiz?
[02:41] <mike> need help how do i fix this problem.. when i try ko ./configure the error came up.
[02:41] <mike> Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[02:41] <rpc> chrishoeppner it would be possible to create a solution that would allow you to transfer stuff easily with a single command
[02:41] <soundray> KurtKraut: one might disagree: it's more human to enter a verbal dialog than to tick boxes on a form.
[02:41] <chrishoeppner> rpc, would it really?
[02:41] <Gyuszk> guys, I've installed artwiz cursor, and it works, but when I log in using GDM, it falls back to Human. where can I set this default value to artwiz?
[02:42] <rpc> yeah, just without a gui client that is limited by definition
[02:42] <KurtKraut> soundray, who disagrees that is stupid. With a window you can try enable/disabling the options availuable in order to get the wanted result. With a command line... what can you do if you dont know even what to type ?
[02:42] <Bladegash> Here's my problem: lately I've had a hard time logging onto SSH by remote. Sometimes the connect dies after giving pw, sometimes after displaying "last login" but before the prompt. Is this just SSH being unstable?
[02:42] <rpc> chrishoeppner or you could do that without custom solution even... using rsync
[02:43] <Bladegash> Should I set up something like automatic restart of ssh in crontab, or will that not help, you think?
[02:43] <soundray> KurtKraut: since you've just called me stupid, I won't enter that discussion.
[02:43] <rpc> Bladegash someone might be knocking at your door massively
[02:43] <chrishoeppner> rpc, I don't know what rsync is all about.
[02:43] <rpc> chrishoeppner please read up, it's a great tool for what you need and more
[02:43] <Bladegash> rpc: would that do it? I am running a few torrents from time to time, are those enough to kill ssh?
[02:44] <rpc> chrishoeppner basically if you had a directory structure with files locally... you could mirror it to a remote box with rsync
[02:44] <rpc> Bladegash nope
[02:44] <rpc> Bladegash what i can advice you is to change the default ssh port to something different and see then
[02:44] <chrishoeppner> yeah but i'm limited to ftp access, as long as i don't hire a dedicated server, wich is too expensive for me. does it work with ftp?
[02:44] <rpc> Bladegash my bet is that the problem disappeares at once :)
[02:44] <Bladegash> I thought so as well... it's just annoying that my machine is on another continent and I'd need to ask a human being to look into it
[02:45] <Bladegash> rpc: nope, I already am running on a nonstandard port
[02:45] <rpc> Bladegash oh i see
[02:45] <Bladegash> it worked fine at firsrt
[02:45] <rpc> Bladegash so perhaps it's time to change the port?
[02:45] <Bladegash> now the machine has been on nonstop for a month, so I don't know if this is a sign of it degenerating
[02:46] <Bladegash> well, yea, I suppose I could change the port... but unfortunately, I'd need to be able to login successfully once :/
[02:46] <Bladegash> I haven't looked at the logs lately, but I think it's not very likely that someone has discovered that port and is massively hammering at it
[02:46] <rpc> Bladegash linux boxes never degenerate :)
[02:46] <Bladegash> I'm running apache on another port and that one is running fine
[02:46] <rpc> Bladegash that's what i think, i change the port everyday...
[02:47] <Bladegash> well, I'm talking about the ssh daemon, possibly that one might need a kick once in a while
[02:47] <kaot> Bladegash: sshd is typically extremely stable.
[02:47] <Rookie_> ssh is very stable
[02:47] <rpc> could be PAM
[02:47] <rpc> or you might be running out of space on system
[02:47] <rpc> that could cause that too i think
[02:47] <Bladegash> well, once (if) I can finally log on I'll do a thorough look at the logs to see if there is anything suspicious
[02:47] <kaot> In 6 years I've never had to specifically restart sshd for anything but a settings change
[02:47] <Bladegash> I have plenty of room, I doubt that's the issue
[02:48] <Bladegash> if those portscan kiddies discover an open port, will they actively try to hammer it?...
[02:48] <kaot> Bladegash: brute-force dictionary attacks aren't all that uncommon
[02:48] <Bladegash> I just felt it was safe enough, since I used to run an ftp server on that same port, and in over a year never saw a single logon attempt that wasn't mine
[02:49] <kaot> Bladegash: which port is that?
[02:49] <Bladegash> eh... well, let's just stay it's not a standard one
[02:49] <notwist> nn som r bra p rtorrent?
[02:49] <rpc> Bladegash yes they will
[02:49] <rpc> Bladegash that's why you should use port knocking if you really care about security
[02:49] <Bladegash> but if indeed that's the case, I underestimated their tenacity
[02:49] <soundray> !se
[02:49] <kaot> Bladegash: anyway, with a lot of automated attack tools now, if they do get in, you won't see the login attempt because your logs get changed.
[02:49] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:50] <soundray> notwist: that was a guess ^^
[02:50] <Bladegash> yea, port knocking came to mind, but are there clients out there that will easily install it?
[02:50] <rpc> Bladegash check pm please
[02:50] <kaot> Bladegash: knockd
[02:50] <Bladegash> last I heard they were still a bit new, and possibly hard to handle
[02:50] <notwist> soundray: damn, wrong chan :D
[02:50] <Bladegash> rpc: I did
[02:50] <lazzareth> join #css
[02:50] <notwist> Is anyone here good at rtorrent?
[02:50] <lazzareth> Ahh
[02:50] <lazzareth> lol
[02:50] <kaot> Bladegash: the knockd I saw on sourceforge looks very easy to configure and run
[02:50] <DragonKing27> help with sound blaster 16
[02:50] <rpc> notwist is that for console?
[02:50] <Bladegash> okay, I'll possibly give that a try, thanks
[02:50] <DragonKing27> no sound
[02:50] <SeriousSven> can someone help me with a problem I have with the edgy eft beta? When Ubuntu starts I get horizontal lines, I tried vga=771, the vga safe mode and set the resolution to 640x480x16 or 32 but it doesn't help. I have a GeForce 7800GS 512 AGP
[02:50] <notwist> rpc: yes
[02:51] <rpc> notwist oh. hmm.
[02:51] <notwist> I was wondering how i can modify trackers in a torrent in rtorrent
[02:51] <KurtKraut> SeriousSven, may be at #ubuntu+1 more people engaged to Edgy might help you
[02:51] <SeriousSven> thanks kurtkraut
[02:52] <soundray> KurtKraut: it doesn't occur to you that an apology might be in order?
[02:52] <DragonKing27> I need help with a Sound Blaster 16 : No Sound
[02:52] <catalytic> doesnt matter i found another one ppl
[02:53] <Gyuszk> guys, I've installed artwiz cursor, and it works, but when I log in using GDM, it falls back to Human. where can I set this default value to artwiz?
[02:53] <dedalus> hi
[02:53] <dedalus> does anyone has already played with ics evolution file
[02:53] <mike> need help how do i fix this problem, t... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found
[02:53] <davin> Is it possible to install Windows (dualboot) after Ubuntu? Because I heard Windows -has- to be on the first partition..?
[02:53] <Bladegash> if I have one of those ssh sessions hanging, and kill it, how long will it take for it to be reset?
[02:54] <Bladegash> just wondering if I have 50+ undead ssh connections running on the server
[02:54] <Bladegash> and that those would cause hiccups when trying to log in
[02:54] <kaot> Bladegash: they time out on their own, typically.  Especially if you're getting a "connection closed by remote host" error or similar.
[02:54] <Bladegash> you can see right away though if it happens
[02:54] <dorto> I have just installed nvidia-glx package. glxinfo command shows this output: Xlib:  "extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:54] <dorto> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual." What do I infer from this?
[02:54] <Bladegash> the "linux blabla" comes up either within 5 seconds or not at all
[02:55] <Bladegash> and also the bash prompt after "last login" comes either near-immediately or not at all
[02:55] <kaot> Bladegash: what happens after that?
[02:55] <kaot> you sure this isn't normal network latency/packet loss?
[02:55] <rpc> Bladegash i had that before when i was short on space in /var
[02:55] <rpc> and it had to do with PAM
[02:55] <rpc> bruting is another option
[02:56] <Bladegash> kaot: well, it could be... I don't know, though, the connection shouldn't be THAT lagged
[02:56] <rpc> so perhaps torrent is causing the lag? is the link fast?
[02:56] <Bladegash> rpc: I have ubuntu installed on its own hard drive, and there's still over 100gig free on that
[02:56] <Bladegash> it doesn't look like ordinary lag
[02:56] <kaot> Bladegash: so you just get no response or feedback at all, basically, you're saying?  It hangs rather than boots you?
[02:56] <Bladegash> like I said, it either works fast or not at all
[02:56] <Bladegash> yea, it can either hang after the PW, or after the "last login" prompt
[02:57] <davin> Is it possible to install Windows (dualboot) after Ubuntu? Because I heard Windows -has- to be on the first partition..?
[02:57] <Bladegash> sometimes I've been able to log in after just letting it cool off for a while
[02:57] <kaot> Bladegash: running anything else besides apache, bittorrent, and ssh?
[02:57] <kaot> davin: not on the same hd.  windows will overwrite grub.
[02:57] <Bladegash> kaot: those are about it, no big server-thing
[02:57] <ad> My ubuntu crashed :\ I have no gui anymore :\ it always send me to console mode !
[02:58] <dorto> how to check if glx is properly installed/working or not?
[02:58] <davin> kaot: bah, I want to make a dualboot system (barebone stripped windows for games) but I already have ubuntu, guess ill just have to backup and reinstall Windows and then Ubuntu?
[02:58] <soundray> ad: log in on the console and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[02:58] <Bladegash> rpc: so what is this about PAM you mentioned?
[02:59] <ad> soundray:  thanks ... I trying ...
[02:59] <notwist> how do i modify trackers in rtorrent?
[02:59] <kaot> davin: I'm pretty sure you could install windows, then boot off a ubuntu bootdisc and reinstall / reconfigure grub, but off the top of my head I don't know specifics on how to do that.
[02:59] <soundray> dorto: glxinfo
[02:59] <frying_fish> davin: !grub
[02:59] <frying_fish> !grub
[02:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:59] <frying_fish> davin: follow that guide
[03:00] <davin> frying_fish: thanks dude
[03:00] <ad> soundray:  it does not work !
[03:00] <SeriousSven> Can I install the edgy beta with the old installation gui instead of loading the ubuntu live disc?
[03:00] <soundray> ad: what does it say?
[03:00] <Bladegash> while we're on the subject of GRUB, I'd like to mention it caused me major headaches while I was making my dualboot system
[03:00] <ad> soundray: I m still in the console
[03:00] <KurtKraut> soundray, sorry, I didn't understand your last message.
[03:00] <ad> soundray: nothing
[03:00] <Bladegash> grub itself is fine, but why does ubuntu have to assume that it's installed on the first drive?
[03:00] <davin> frying_fish: do I -need- to use the alternate cd? cant I use the normal/live cd that I got from shipit?
[03:01] <Bladegash> how about a simple option to define it yourself
[03:01] <Bladegash> just a "other options..." button and tell it what hard drive to use, fedora has that for example
[03:01] <Bladegash> now every time I update the kernel I have to manually fix grub because the partition numbers get assigned wrong
[03:01] <soundray> KurtKraut: I'm suggesting that you might apologize for calling me stupid.
[03:01] <kaot> Bladegash: man that's a bummer.
[03:02] <ad> soundray: Ubuntu starts normaly (ok ok ok) then ask me for a login (tty1) I don't know this login (maybe my usb modem). THen I write anything, asl me a pass for this , i write anything then say it is incorrect.
[03:02] <KurtKraut> soundray, ah, sorry. I'm not a native english speaker. Sometimes, because of the lack of vocabulary, inappropiate words may come to mind.
[03:02] <PPAAUULL> Which is better, Compiz or Beryl?
[03:02] <lupine_85> which is better, coke or lemonade?
[03:02] <kaot> PPAAUULL: that is a trick question.
[03:02] <ad> soundray: then ask me for a log/pass : I enter my ubuntu log/pass and I m in a prompt
[03:02] <tamacracker> Anyone know a good password cracker for Linux?
[03:02] <KurtKraut> soundray, 'stupid' is a well known word, ususally spoken in movies. Maybe this just poped in my mind. But I didn't wanted to offend you.
[03:02] <davin> frying_fish: Nevermind found it~
[03:02] <Bladegash> so is it simply possible that if there is lag/latency, then ssh simply won't finish logging in?
[03:02] <tamacracker> AIM password cracker
[03:03] <Bladegash> as in, is there some short time-window during which it must succeed, or else be doomed forever...
[03:03] <soundray> KurtKraut: accepted, thanks.
[03:03] <PPAAUULL> kaot: how? They both do basically the same thing.
[03:03] <KurtKraut> soundray, only tried to say that considering a terminal user-friendly is extremely not compatible to the reality and people I deal with
[03:03] <fliegenderfrosch> how can i avoid that all my mounted partitions show up in the places menu?
[03:04] <soundray> KurtKraut: it's a matter of culture and upbringing, though. If you've learnt how to use a CLI, you find it more powerful. If you've learnt how to use a GUI, you'll find that more powerful.
[03:04] <lupine_85> of course, it's a better idea to use beryl than it is to use compiz-quinn
[03:05] <soundray> KurtKraut: I would claim, though, that people who learn the unix CLI achieve more than GUI users within the same time
[03:05] <lupine_85> the CLI has a GUI!
[03:05] <lupine_85> it's called konsole ;)
[03:05] <KurtKraut> soundray, yes, I do find it powerful. But I'm a heavy-user :D Mostly, people use computers as tools not as a target. And they need tasks to be done asap. They cant way 'learning' how to use CLI in order to get something done.
[03:05] <Spastjeh> hehe
[03:06] <kaot> lupine_85: I thought compiz-quinn became beryl.
[03:06] <Bladegash> so, does anyone know what linux does after "last login:" but before the prompt? perhaps somewhere in there these connections keep dying
[03:07] <kaot> KurtKraut: serious work requires serious tools.  Serious tools require learning.  If you don't learn the tools, you can't do the work.
[03:07] <jmspeex> Anyone got Edgy to work on x86-64?
[03:07] <soundray> kaot: very succinctly put.
[03:07] <KurtKraut> kaot, do you know a cell phone hard to use ? A car hard to drive ? Why would anyone build a product that it is hard to use ?
[03:07] <jmspeex> For me it just freezes at random with a MTBF of about 30 seconds
[03:07] <Bladegash> just tried now and it died on "last login:", a few minutes before it died right after giving PW
[03:08] <protocol2> is edgy eft official yet?
[03:08] <KurtKraut> kaot, it just excludes people that cannot invest many time in learning, studying and trying.
[03:08] <kattekiksen> Well, i just replaced every dapper with edgy in my sources.list.. and now i'm running a dist-upgrade which will finish in half an hour. But then someone at another channel told me that my system would crash, due to a "breakage"? Is that right?
[03:08] <KurtKraut> kattekiksen, probably, yes. Upgrading from Dapper is not too stable yet.
[03:08] <jmspeex> protocol2: I was trying edgy beta
[03:08] <kattekiksen> KurtKraut, so my system is going down?
[03:09] <kaot> KurtKraut: your analogies are flawed.  A car is not hard to drive, but you still need to invest time in learning how to drive it.  That goes double for a stick-shift.  That goes quintuple for a trailer truck.
[03:09] <soundray> KurtKraut: it takes most people hundreds of hours to learn the user interface of a car and then drive it well. Yet people expect to use computer software without learning. That is misguided.
[03:09] <protocol2> oh....is there a date for official set yet?
[03:09] <KurtKraut> kattekiksen, hard to say but there is a chance of it. In order to get things back, just make a clean install of Edgy. But it might make you lose data in your home partition.
[03:10] <kaot> KurtKraut: I just bought a monitor from an architect who does all his design work on computers.  You'd better believe he spent time learning the design tools, I saw the manuals on his desk.
[03:10] <silvertip257> i'm trying to dual/multi boot different versions of Linux, FedoraCore boots, so I'd like to modify its menu.lst file to list the others in its boot screen
[03:10] <KurtKraut> kaot, in your country, cars are mostly automatically shifted or manually shifted ?
[03:10] <PPAAUULL> I heard that edgy is going to be a "test" release with a lot of beta software on it. is that true?
[03:10] <kattekiksen> KurtKraut, well, installed dapper yesterday, and i have a copy of every single file.. so that doesn't matter.. Can i get beryl to work on edgy?
[03:11] <KurtKraut> soundray, If I haven't a internet connection. I wouldn't be here and POVaddct wouldn't taught me that there is a unix command called 'split'. So I would have my task done. If there was a GUI for splitiing files, I would find it just by browsing the menus.
[03:11] <KurtKraut> kattekiksen, yes
[03:11] <kaot> KurtKraut: the vast majority are automatic.  Yet there is still learning to be done.  If you take someone who has never driven a car, and put him or her into one, they'll have no idea where to begin.
[03:11] <kattekiksen> KurtKraut, okay, do you have a guide?
[03:11] <kaot> KurtKraut: amend that last statement -- take a person who has never been in a car.
[03:12] <KurtKraut> kattekiksen, no I dont.
[03:12] <soundray> PPAAUULL: that's exaggerating. Edgy will be more daring in its choice of software than dapper, because edgy won't be supported for the same long term as dapper.
[03:12] <KurtKraut> kaot, here in my country only imported cars, from abroad, are automatic. Manual shift envolves much more training and time in order to get a car running then an automatic.
[03:12] <Zambezi> I can't ping, SSH or access my system local. I need help now. Please.
[03:12] <kaot> KurtKraut: well then you just reinforced my point.
[03:13] <KurtKraut> kaot, if you never drove an manual car, it is hard to keep it on
[03:13] <protocol2> i would say im better off loading dapper than edgy
[03:13] <kaot> KurtKraut: My first car was a manual shift.  It's how I first learned to drive.  I know.  :)
[03:13] <xiaoz> lol
[03:13] <soundray> kaot, KurtKraut: this is certainly interesting, but inappropriate in this channel. Let's meet in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:14] <kaot> soundray: was pondering that myself.  :\  I"m already there anyway.
[03:14] <kaot> Zambezi: what happens when you try to login locally?
[03:14] <protocol2> but...i dont think I will load it on my laptop
[03:14] <overridex> anyone know why since i upgraded to edgy, any bash scripts i had that used functions no longer work?  They fail with "function: not found"
[03:14] <kaot> Zambezi: By this I assume you mean physically sitting at the computer.
[03:14] <KurtKraut> kaot, I'm a heavy user at computers. I feel missing the CLI. As same as when I drive an automatical car, I feel odd... I feel I cant control it totally. But you have to agree with me that the learning curve of an automatical shift iss faster
[03:14] <kaot> KurtKraut: see soundray's last comment
[03:15] <Zarephath> Hey all...what package(s) do I need to have installed to allow Ubuntu to access wpa/wpa2?
[03:15] <Zambezi> kaot, Nothing. The screen is just black.
[03:15] <jmspeex> protocol2: For me, Dapper has really annoying bugs. Edgy 386 seemed *sort* of OK (very little testing). Edgy on x86-64 is just totally broken.
[03:15] <kaot> Zambezi: black from poweron?  No grub message?  no bios message?
[03:15] <cwraig> zarepath what chipset does your wireless card use
[03:15] <Zambezi> kaot, But it's also black with IPCop, but not with a Windows computer I tried with.
[03:15] <xiaoz> lol
[03:16] <kaot> Zambezi: I'm not following you.
[03:16] <cwraig> zarephath have you installed the card and used it without wpa
[03:17] <Zambezi> kaot, It's so less stressful in PM. Can we take it there?
[03:17] <xiaoz> lol im new here
[03:17] <dorto> soundray: what ouput should i expect from glxinfo command for a successful installation?
[03:17] <dorto> *output
[03:17] <kaot> Zambezi: prefer to keep it here, I'm in a few channels and it's easier not to have to switch windows every 3 seconds to follow them
[03:17] <ompaul> !offtopic
[03:17] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:17] <tomcatt> !ubotu ext3 recovery
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext3 recovery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <kaot> Zambezi: plus it allows someone else to jump in with info if they have any
[03:18] <coulix> i thought i got ride of this locales errors  ! but they are back, dpkg-reconfigure locales doesnt change anything.
[03:18] <jnvilo> hi, if i did a dist-upgrade, does it mean i am running edge now?
[03:18] <POVaddct> xiaoz: we noticed, because you keep saying lol for no reason
[03:18] <coulix> perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:  LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en",
[03:18] <Zambezi> kaot, Okay, but then I make a summary and give it here. Hold on. It takes a couple of minutes.
[03:18] <coulix>  ect..
[03:18] <soundray> dorto: something other than "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" :)
[03:18] <kaot> Zambezi: k
[03:18] <Bladegash> okay, so I still see two of my connection attempts hanging with "who" (torrentflux has a stats window)
[03:18] <dorto> soundray: too bad :(
[03:19] <Bladegash> no abnormal load, memory sufficient, both have the command "-bash"
[03:19] <Bladegash> isn't that what you would normally see when someone has the command prompt?
[03:19] <dorto> soundray: For NVidia GeForce 5200, I should install nvidia-glx and not the legacy version, right?
[03:19] <tomcatt> !ubotu ext3
[03:19] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[03:19] <ad> soundray: still here ?
[03:20] <JustAPanda_1934> Following official tutorial to set up mail serving capabilities on my ubuntu machine, i cannot telnet to localhost 10024 to test amavis-new. "Connection refused". Have amended master.cf and main.cf as per tutorial directions. Any help here? :)
[03:20] <soundray> ad: yes
[03:21] <ad> soundray: I have a error in a packet :
[03:21] <bbrazil> JustAPanda_1934: if 10024 isn't open, it means amavis isn't running right
[03:21] <dorto> never heard of this fs-driver before. I always use explore2fs
[03:21] <Bladegash> JustAPanda_1934: make sure the settings are okay, and that amavisd is actually running
[03:21] <Bladegash> if a setting is wrong, maybe it hasn't started
[03:21] <JustAPanda_1934> How do I confirm that amavis is running?
[03:21] <JustAPanda_1934> (Please)
[03:21] <Bladegash> ps ax | grep amavis
[03:21] <ad> soundray: speedtouch-ng ; i m trying to remove it ; there is a dependencie problem
[03:21] <Bladegash> youll see if there is something running, and also if there are zombie processes
[03:22] <coulix> any thought about locales error :'/ perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[03:22] <ad> soundray: post-removal returns error 2
[03:22] <Bladegash> you could also just try  sudo /etc/init.d/amavisd restart   and see if it says anything
[03:22] <mikael_j> I have a bit of an annoying problem, I can get my WPC54G wlan nic to work without encryption but it refuses to work with WPA or WEP (at least as far as I can tell), are there any common problems with this? can't seem to find anything but generic install instructions for wpa_supplicant using google...
[03:23] <ad> soundray: a idea ? Is there a way to remove this pack without error ?
[03:23] <catalytic> how well does wine emulate?
[03:23] <Pharao2k> hi, I need help. The gnome briefcase does not accept the password I gave it a few days ago, how to reset it?
[03:24] <KurtKraut> catalytic, what do you mean by 'well' ? How fast ?
[03:24] <JustAPanda_1934> Output of grep amavis command is: "6059 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep amavis". Output of amavis restart comment is that the variable $myhostname (value "foo") is not a FQDN - does this mean I have to change it to a mail name i.e. mail.mydomain.com?
[03:24] <soundray> ad: don't worry about this package for now, it's not what's causing your problem.
[03:24] <JustAPanda_1934> And if I have to change to FQDN, how?
[03:24] <soundray> ad: did you have X working on your machine before?
[03:24] <Bladegash> JustAPanda_1934: that, but I also think you can leave it blank/default value, I forget offhand
[03:24] <JustAPanda_1934> (have tried sudo hostname x command)
[03:25] <Bladegash> but you may have to make it into a full actual name
[03:25] <bbt> aiglx work on dapper?
[03:25] <Bladegash> maybe foo.localhost might also work
[03:25] <protocol2> bbt, yep
[03:25] <catalytic> yes kurt
[03:26] <Bladegash> or whatever is the suffix for local... was it .localdomain, I forget
[03:26] <catalytic> i have tried virtual pc on my mac osx g4
[03:26] <bbt> protocol2: would you know of a howto for nvidia cards??
[03:26] <KurtKraut> catalytic, of course, is not as fast as running it natively. But it is slow to load but fast enough to use
[03:26] <catalytic> and it ran pretty badly, and had no 3d support
[03:26] <JustAPanda_1934> Bladegash, how could I change the $myhostname variable via command line (sudo hostname foo2 seems to take okay but still same error with amavis)
[03:26] <protocol2> bbt, no....but you can google up some information on it
[03:26] <Bladegash> JustAPanda_1934: edit your amavisd.conf file
[03:26] <catalytic> fast enogh for gaming?
[03:26] <ad> soundray: I think this is due to this because it causes problem when I tried to update... yes X worked ...
[03:27] <Bladegash> find the "myhostname" line there and change that
[03:27] <soundray> ad: okay... can you paste the entire output of 'sudo apt-get -f install' in the pastebin please
[03:28] <Bladegash> there haven't been any dangerous ssh-exploits discovered lately, right? just hoping that mine is secure
[03:28] <JustAPanda_1934> Blagegash, where is this file located?I assumed /etc/amavis BUT that only has a "conf.d" directory, en_US dir, etc... cannot find amavis.conf file to alter hostname setting
[03:28] <KurtKraut> catalytic, depends on the game
[03:28] <soundray> ad: oh, that will be hard without X -- hold on...
[03:28] <Bladegash> JustAPanda_1934: I think it's /etc/amavisd.conf
[03:29] <Bladegash> the file is in /etc/ at least when I've worked with it
[03:29] <soundray> ad: what error does the post-removal script for speedtouch-ng throw?
[03:29] <Zambezi> kaot, About 120 days ago I turned on the computer and yesterday a heard a strange sound like a cable got disconnected, but I was okay. // Today I tried to access the computer with SSH (remote) and I got disconnected with the messages "No route to host". I can't reconnect, can't ping. // I go to the computer, touch the keyboard to get a picture, but nothing happens. // But I get a picture with a Windowscomputer a tried with. And I can access my IPCop
[03:29] <Zambezi> :s webinterface in Firefox (https://ipcop)
[03:29] <catalytic> whats the best way for me to check if I have these system requirements?
[03:29] <catalytic> http://www.happypenguin.org/show?ATI%20Radeon%20Linux%20Display%20Drivers
[03:30] <kaot> Zambezi: check your cables and reboot?
[03:30] <ad> soundray: error is in french : I try to translate : post-removal returned output error state 2
[03:30] <JustAPanda_1934> Bladegash, system has no /etc/amavis.conf file. It does have /etc/amavis directory (which does not contain the conf file). Is there a search command to find my config file? :) (newbie)
[03:30] <dorto> what are the prerequisites for installing xgl? ubuntu docs say that direct rendering should be there. how to enable direct rendering?
[03:30] <Zambezi> kaot, I can't reboot since I need to do a recovery.
[03:30] <Bladegash> JustAPanda_1934: how about /etc/amavisd.conf
[03:31] <soundray> ad: I don't mean that one -- what does the line before that say?
[03:31] <jelly-home> Hi, is it possible to install ubuntu via pxe boot?
[03:31] <Zambezi> kaot, I accidently deleted files and need to see what I erased. I'm going to do the recovery with tct and I don't know what happens if I turn off the computer.
[03:32] <JustAPanda_1934> bladegash, amavisd.conf file doesn't exist either. Trying to open (well, create) that file form command like using gedit results in Xlib connection refuse by server. Is there any way to confirm amavis has been installed correctly? Followed tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixAmavisNew seemingly without problems...
[03:32] <soundray> Zambezi: to have the best chance of recovering accidentally deleted files, you should turn off the computer immediately without shutting down.
[03:32] <jwise> hello world
[03:32] <ad> soundray: oh yes ... sorry : /var/lib/dpkg/info/speedtouch-ng.posttrm : line 72 syntax error : unexpected end of file
[03:33] <Bladegash> JustAPanda_1934: well, in that case, I don't know, sorry.... you could try to locate it
[03:33] <Bladegash> JustAPanda_1934: first do "updatedb" and then "slocate amavisd.conf"
[03:34] <kaot> Zambezi: I don't know what tct is.  Also, it sounds like for one reason or another your computer has been rendered inaccessible without reboot.  I don't know what to tell you, sorry.
[03:34] <Rookie_> with livecd - is it possible to mount /dev/hda and search hdd ?
[03:34] <Zambezi> soundray, I accidently ran sudo rm -r /home/bla/my_folder /mnt/hhd2 and /mnt/hdd2 wasn't suppose to be in the command, but I were unfocused and didn't see that. :-(
[03:34] <ad> soundray: command was sudo apt-get -f install
[03:34] <SS2> !japan
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about japan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <SS2> :/
[03:35] <jwise> Hi,how can I using apt-get without sudo with a common user at ubuntu,thank you!
[03:35] <soundray> ad: please post the output of "head -n 72  /var/lib/dpkg/info/speedtouch-ng.posttrm | tail -n 1'
[03:35] <Zambezi> soundray, So I erased 20 things that I know of, but then I don't know if some personal files like photos got erases too.
[03:35] <SS2> need a japanese chan
[03:35] <jwise> any one tell me,thanks a lot
[03:35] <soundray> Zambezi: what filesystem do you have on /mnt/hdd2?
[03:35] <Zambezi> soundray, EXT3.
[03:36] <SS2> is there an existing japanese chatroom out there for ubuntu?
[03:36] <stefg> !jp
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <soundray> Zambezi: that's bad. Sorry, it will be near impossible to recover anything from there.
[03:36] <stefg> obviuosly no
[03:36] <Rookie_> !asian
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <ad> soundray: nothing
[03:37] <Zambezi> soundray, Dammit... Is there a possibily too see what I erased? I don't want to lose personal files. :-(
[03:37] <Rookie_> with livecd - is it possible to mount /dev/hda and search hdd ?
[03:37] <ad> soundray: blank line
[03:37] <catalytic> is there a way to get glxgears to show fps?
[03:37] <soundray> catalytic: -printfps option
[03:38] <Zambezi> kaot, I haven't used tct yet. I haven't touch the computer so much. I changed the right on a folder, transfered files there. That's all.
[03:38] <Zambezi> kaot, Is it possible I got hacked? :s
[03:38] <soundray> ad: did you copy the entire command I posted, leaving out the quotes?
[03:39] <catalytic> http://www.happypenguin.org/show?ATI%20Radeon%20Linux%20Display%20Drivers
[03:39] <Zambezi> kaot, I changed the right on one folder on hdd2 to the user instead of root.
[03:39] <catalytic> oops
[03:39] <catalytic> 6223 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1244.480 FPS
[03:39] <soundray> ad: head -n 72  /var/lib/dpkg/info/speedtouch-ng.posttrm | tail -n 1
[03:39] <catalytic> i can safely say I have my ati installed properly?
[03:39] <ad> soundray: yes ... I try vi ?
[03:39] <kaot> Zambezi: is it possible you got hacked?  It's possible but it doesn't sound very likely.
[03:39] <gnomefreak> catalytic: yes
[03:39] <soundray> ad: yeah. Or nano
[03:40] <gnomefreak> by the looks of it
[03:40] <catalytic> sweet
[03:40] <SpacePuppy> catalytic, fgl_glxgears or glxgears?
[03:40] <J-_> how can i get httpd running?
[03:40] <catalytic> glxgears
[03:40] <Zambezi> kaot, Cause a hacker wouldn't break the system?
[03:40] <catalytic> what is fgl?
[03:40] <catalytic> ill try that
[03:40] <SpacePuppy> then no.. run fgl_glxgears
[03:40] <ad> soundray: how can i do line 72 with vi ?
[03:40] <ad> soundray: can i go *
[03:40] <SpacePuppy> fgl*  is ati specific stuff
[03:40] <POVaddct> ad: <ESC> :72
[03:40] <catalytic> command not found
[03:41] <catalytic> i havent installed any then?
[03:41] <soundray> ad: sorry, not familiar with vi (emacs guy)
[03:41] <SpacePuppy> it would seem so..
[03:41] <ad> soundray: there is no line 72 !!
[03:41] <J-_> how can i get httpd running on a ubuntu LAMP server?
[03:41] <rezc> how can i login via terminal in telnet 23 ?
[03:41] <ad> soundray: last is 71 !!
[03:41] <soundray> ad: does it call another script?
[03:42] <SpacePuppy> glxgears: 14174 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2834.616 FPS    fgl_glxgears: 2244 frames in 5.0 seconds = 448.800 FPS
[03:42] <POVaddct> rezc: do not use telnet for remote logins. use ssh.
[03:42] <catalytic> what card?
[03:42] <rezc> POVaddct ssh port is closed
[03:42] <SpacePuppy> x1300
[03:42] <kyja> how can I create a link of my entire volume "/" to my home folder ? please help.
[03:42] <catalytic> I have a ati 9550
[03:42] <catalytic> ok
[03:42] <catalytic> i want to work through this tutorial
[03:42] <catalytic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:42] <SpacePuppy> 9550's are a real pain...
[03:42] <POVaddct> rezc: then telnet hostname    (port 23 doesn need to be specified)
[03:42] <catalytic> but I am bit worried at the compiling kernel steps
[03:42] <SpacePuppy> and may not be supported fully
[03:43] <catalytic> ok... (
[03:43] <ad> soundray: what do you mean ? the end of code line 71 ?
[03:43] <rezc> POVaddct I use telnet hostname@ip ?
[03:43] <catalytic> have you tried them before SpacePuppy?
[03:43] <POVaddct> rezc: no, telnet ip
[03:43] <soundray> ad: from looking at the postrm script, do you get the impression that it calls something else yet?
[03:44] <POVaddct> rezc: it then asks for username and password (if telnetd is running on that machine)
[03:44] <rezc> thanks
[03:44] <rezc> ok
[03:44] <rezc> thanks a lot
[03:44] <rezc> bye
[03:44] <catalytic> whenever i drag a window around i get really bad artifacts
[03:45] <catalytic> will these go away once the card is installed correctly?
[03:45] <Jowi> did anyone have any luck setting a resolution above 1024x768 on a mac mini core duo with 915resolution?
[03:46] <ad> soundray: no ... but i don't know this language but it is not C ... maybe python ? If syntax is "if ... fi"
[03:46] <soundray> ad: that's bash
[03:46] <POVaddct> ad: it's a shell script
[03:47] <ad> soundray: ok ... so what it the code to call external script ... I need that to anwer your question
[03:47] <ad> soundray: What is tty1 ?
[03:48] <ad> Is there a relation with modem ?
[03:48] <POVaddct> ad: no. is is the first linux console.
[03:48] <POVaddct> *it is
[03:48] <ad> ok ...
[03:48] <soundray> ad: /dev/tty1 is the first virtual console. Nothing to do with the modem, that would be /dev/ttyS0
[03:49] <cpk2> what is tty supposed to stand for anyways?
[03:49] <soundray> teletype
[03:49] <cpk2> huh, so i guess it really is the same as a tty that deaf people use
[03:49] <cpk2> acronym wise
[03:49] <ad> soundray: ok ... I tried to upgrade packages but i can not remove this speedtouch ! Is there a way ?
[03:50] <ad> soundray: I don't need it anyway
[03:50] <ad> anymore
[03:50] <Jowi> cpk2, tty=teletypewriter (or something similar)
[03:50] <catalytic> hmmm im using an AMD and an ati radeon 9550
[03:50] <soundray> ad: you can force things by inserting 'exit 0' as the second line in that postrm script. That's not sound advice, but I don't see a better way forward.
[03:51] <Snifouille> Hey there
[03:51] <catalytic> is that just asking for trouble?
[03:51] <Jowi> catalytic, you can't be worse off than me
[03:52] <catalytic> is that similar to your current setup jowl?
[03:52] <catalytic> sorry, jowi
[03:52] <Jowi> catalytic, nope. intel core duo mac mini with intel 945GM chipset :-/
[03:52] <soundray> ad: will be back later
[03:53] <ad> soundray: ok .. I did exit 0 ... seems working for update ... We ll see ... Thnks
[03:53] <Jowi> catalytic, I have XGL working but nomatter how I try I don't get a higher resolution than 1024x768.
[03:53] <catalytic> when ubuntu starts up, what is the program that loads the welcome screen?
[03:53] <piratepenguin> >grub
[03:53] <Jowi> catalytic, gdm
[03:53] <catalytic> what res do mac mini's do
[03:53] <nolimitsoya> catalytic usplash
[03:53] <catalytic> ok
[03:54] <catalytic> before i tried installing these drivers
[03:54] <nolimitsoya> or which one do you mean? :P
[03:54] <Jowi> catalytic, the login screen = gdm, the boot screen=usplash
[03:54] <catalytic> restarted, and it left me at the login prompt instaed of at the login screen
[03:54] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, type startx
[03:54] <Jowi> catalytic, well, in osX I get 1280x1024
[03:54] <catalytic> ok
[03:54] <nolimitsoya> after login that is...
[03:54] <catalytic> ok
[03:55] <Jowi> brb
[03:55] <catalytic> but why would it stop running that automatcially?
[03:55] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, planetary alaignment :)
[03:55] <ad> soundray: well I can not boot nymore :\ "can not access tty' !!!!
[03:55] <Justy> Hello!
[03:55] <catalytic> lo, solar flares?
[03:56] <Rondom> !jp
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <piratepenguin> anyone know what kinda bot is ubotu? supybot or what, or custom (can I get his code in that case?)?
[03:57] <KurtKraut> piratepenguin, supybot I think
[03:57] <piratepenguin> KurtKraut, k, thanks
[03:59] <ichanFX> hello, can i remove ubuntu password?
[04:01] <catalytic> this is probably a pretty nooblette thing to ask, but would these instructions be ok on xubuntu?
[04:01] <catalytic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:01] <soundray> ad: do you have a live CD?
[04:02] <ichanFX> hello?
[04:02] <ichanFX> can i remove ubuntu password?
[04:02] <ad> soundray: yes
[04:02] <ad> kaella (knoppix)
[04:03] <soundray> ad: hold on, I'll have a look at that postrm script myself
[04:03] <POVaddct> ichanFX: why would you want to do that?
[04:03] <sundaydude> ichanFX What do you mean? For logging in?
[04:03] <ad> soundray:  oh no .. I erase it :\ I have ubuntu hoary / kubuntu breezy ...
[04:03] <ad> erased
[04:04] <ad> *
[04:04] <soundray> ad: breezy live should be fine
[04:04] <sandy16> hi there
[04:04] <ichanFX> sundaydude: yes for logging in
[04:04] <ichanFX> can i just type the username?
[04:05] <ichanFX> or maybe i can just login without typing anything
[04:05] <sandy16> i am getting my desktop switching tool crashed when i am using ubutnu 6.10 how to get out of this?
[04:05] <ad> soundray: how to boot as a live cd ?
[04:05] <SpacePuppy> catalytic, sure.. give it a shot.. don't see why you couldn't use synaptic instead of apt-get
[04:06] <soundray> ad: if it's a live CD, it will boot as a live CD. If it's a breezy install, then it's not a live CD.
[04:06] <ad> soundray: yes it is install :\
[04:06] <sundaydude> ichanFX: You can use the auto-login option, so you won't be prompted for your name and password anymore when you start your computer.
[04:06] <ichanFX> sundaydude : how to use auto login?
[04:07] <catalytic> how do i determine the kernel I am running?
[04:07] <easytiger> uname -a
[04:07] <ad> soundray:  i have a iso of kaella knoppix ...gonna burn it ...
[04:08] <soundray> ad: where did you get that speedtouch-ng package? It's not in universe, is it?
[04:08] <sundaydude> ichanFX: Hmm, I not sure (I'm suing Mepis at the moment). I think it is in Sysytem > Administration > Login manager. There you can select an auotlogin option for one user.
[04:08] <ichanFX> oh i found it
[04:08] <ichanFX> :)
[04:08] <ichanFX> thx
[04:08] <sundaydude> Great! :)
[04:09] <ad> soundray: no it is not ... I can not remmeber .. it is to make my interent connexion ork
[04:09] <ad> But no I did not need it anymore
[04:09] <Sasch> Hi All
[04:10] <Sasch> I'm italian and I don't speak very well english ... can help me with apt and sources.list ??
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Sasch,  help in what way?
[04:10] <coulix> does any of you have a core 2 Duo  ? if so what kernel do you use ? i have  2.6.17-10-386  but i guess it doesnt support the 2 cores
[04:10] <coulix> i cant see  2.6.17-10-686 smp
  i have ubuntu server version dapper
[04:11] <LjL> is amsn the only way to have audio and webcam support on the MSN network, with other Windows clients?
[04:11] <Sasch> i have a supermicro server with 2 ethernet cards ... first if 62.48.x.x and the second have 192.168.1.24
[04:11] <cpk2> LjL: gaim doesnt do it?
[04:12] <fredl> LOL, this is so cool.... I installed VMWare server on my Dapper install and am running Nexenta in one of it's virtual machines.
 i get the file sources.list from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic but when i modified sources.list with this line apt don't work
[04:12] <gnomefreak> cpk2: no
[04:12] <LjL> cpk2: i don't know, i'm using KDE -- i need this for a relative, i don't even use MSN myself. Kopete appears to support webcam but not audio (and even webcam, i cannot get it to work).  i was under the impression Gaim only had text messenging support anyway?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> gaim doesnt do cam
[04:12] <Sasch> when apt download the update says connection refused
[04:13] <LjL> Sasch: can you paste your current sources.list to the pastebin please?
[04:13] <Sasch> this is my sources.list
[04:13] <Sasch> http://www.papinicomputer.it/t.txt
[04:13] <fredl> Nexenta really kicks butt... Does it fit within the Ubuntu plans though...
[04:13] <LjL> gnomefreak: so the answer as far as you know is, yes, amsn is the only choice?
[04:13] <coulix> i had to install generics
[04:13] <gnomefreak> LjL: yes
[04:14] <LjL> unfortunate :\
[04:14] <LjL> Sasch: your sources.list doesn't look too bad to me. have you tried using another mirror, such as fr.archive.ubuntu.com rather than it.archive.ubuntu.com?
[04:14] <fredl> hey gnomefreak, you tried Nexenta already?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> LjL: gaim was working on a cam version called gaim-vv but i think they stopped work on that (i havent heard anything about it in a long time)
[04:14] <gnomefreak> fredl: no
  hummm no i try it ... for reposity international of ubutu is en..archive.ubuntu.com ??
[04:15] <LjL> gnomefreak: the bad things about amsn are that 1) it only supports MSN 2) it integrates badly with both KDE and Gnome, at least graphically speaking... but oh well.
[04:15] <KurtKraut> There is a folder in Ubuntu with scripts that are run when my eth0 acquires an external ip. There is a 'ip-up' subfolder. Does anyone the full path to it ?
[04:16] <LjL> Sasch: just "archive.ubuntu.com" should work, to get you to the default international repository
[04:16] <_MMA_> Can any tell me how to fix this:
[04:16] <_MMA_> In my syslog Im getting: localhost kernel: [1234124:1234143]  eth0 Link up localhost kernel: [1234124:1234143]  eth0 Link down. Continuously. Obviously my nic is acting funny.
[04:16] <soundray> KurtKraut: /etc/network/if-up.d/
[04:16] <LjL> Sasch: if you are italian, however, i know that fr.archive.ubuntu.com should be quite fast
[04:16] <KurtKraut> soundray, thanks
[04:16] <Sasch> ok thanks <LjL>
[04:16] <Sasch> i try
[04:16] <LjL> Sasch: of course, make sure that you run a "sudo apt-get update" after the changes
[04:16] <Sasch> yes
[04:16] <LjL> Sasch: (you should always do that when you change your sources.list)
[04:16] <soundray> ad: I found it, but the postrm script in mine is nowhere near 71 lines long. So I can't tell why your system is messed up like that.
[04:17] <Sasch> if apt don't work i post the error ...
[04:17] <LjL> ok
[04:17] <Tomcat_> fredl: Yes, it's possible.
[04:17] <LjL> what is Nexenta?
[04:17] <OmniD> Who has time for a networking problem
[04:17] <fredl> Tomcat_: just worried if I gave it enough virtual diskspace.
[04:18] <OmniD> It involves video games and sharing internet
[04:18] <soundray> LjL: a commercially supported Debian version, I think
[04:18] <Tomcat_> OmniD: No metaquestions please :o
[04:18] <LjL> soundray: the first hit on google talks about some GNU/OpenSolaris thing however...?
[04:18] <fredl> LjL, it's basically Ubuntu but with the OpenSolaris kernel.
[04:18] <LjL> oh
[04:18] <OmniD> Okay I don't want to spend the money on an Xbox360 wireless dongle, I was wondering, with my laptop connected wirelessly to the net, if I could connect the 360 into it's ethernet port and share the net with it
[04:19] <LjL> is OpenSolaris under an OSI license?
[04:19] <KurtKraut> LjL, yes
[04:19] <LjL> !metaquestion
[04:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:19] <LjL> (i just add to add this term)
[04:19] <fredl> what would be cool is to create a Solaris zone on a VMWare virtual system.
[04:20] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  to go 'network port to network port' you need a special net cable.
[04:20] <fredl> the possibilities are just awesome.
[04:20] <OmniD> crossover cable right
[04:20] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  and some configuration on the laptop
[04:20] <LjL> sounds interesting, what would be the advantages of using the OpenSolaris kernel over Linux?
[04:20] <OmniD> Dr_willis, a crossover cable right?
[04:20] <KurtKraut> LjL, just a sec
[04:20] <fredl> LjL, for end-users probably not a *whole* lot....
[04:20] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  yep. those canbe hard to find..
[04:20] <OmniD> Nah
[04:20] <OmniD> I can make one if I need to
[04:20] <KurtKraut> LjL, are you asking because of Nexenta ?
[04:21] <OmniD> Just an assbackwords cat5
[04:21] <fredl> LjL, particularly with Nexenta since it basically looks and feels exactly like Ubuntu.
[04:21] <acke_> hey is there a broadbandwith speed tester for ubuntu?
[04:21] <LjL> KurtKraut: yes, i just learned about its existence
[04:21] <KurtKraut> LjL, read this http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=gnusolaris-beginners&a=2006-09&t=2354584
[04:21] <soundray> acke_: why not use an online one?
[04:21] <LjL> fredl: DistroWatch only mentions Debian on the Nexenta page, though
[04:21] <fredl> LjL, the Nexenta distro is also just an alpha release.
[04:21] <fredl> LjL, well Ubuntu is a Debian descendant.
[04:22] <acke_> soundray, well you got one?
[04:22] <Pharao2k> hi, I need help. The gnome briefcase does not accept the password I gave it a few days ago, how to reset it?
 all work but   but i change deb http://xxx  in deb ftp://xxx
[04:22] <soundray> acke_: there are plenty, just ask your favorite search engine. E.g. http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
[04:22] <OmniD> Dr_willis, okay what kind of configuration do I need
[04:22] <LjL> Sasch: but that's weird -- it should work fine from http://
[04:23] <lynyrd> question: are there already linux sourcen 2.6.18 with ubuntu patches available?
[04:23] <LjL> KurtKraut: "better binary software compatibility", why is that?
[04:23] <KurtKraut> LjL, can't say for sure. Probably stuff related to 'libc'
[04:23] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  'ip-masquerading' -  there may be some gui/interface tools to help set it up. I use routers now so aint messed with it in years.
[04:24] <KurtKraut> LjL, I'm not that geek. You may ask this guy about it
[04:24] <stefg> !firestarter
[04:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[04:24] <acke_> soundray, thanks
[04:24] <OmniD> Dr_willis, Oh, well I think I have a router somewhere around here
[04:24] <acke_> 1.4mbit
[04:24] <OmniD> Would I plug in the laptop to the upload port?
[04:24] <LjL> KurtKraut: besides, i'm offtopic and i know that, so let's just drop this, i'll search for further info myself ;)
[04:24] <Websteria> ok, I'm an idiot and accidentally removed my "bin" directory while trying to remove it from my old drive
[04:24] <Websteria> Which packages can I use to reinstall all the programs to it?
[04:25] <Websteria> I was able to copy it from my old debian install first
[04:25] <LjL> ugh
[04:25] <KurtKraut> Websteria, ouch... hard to tell
[04:25] <LjL> Websteria: well, how are you going to *be able* to install any packages anyway, if you have no /bin?
[04:25] <fredl> LjL, Solaris has been around quite a lot longer than Linux. There are also a lot of vendors that release their commercial software on Solaris before even considering Linux still.
[04:26] <LjL> ok, very last question, is Solaris also a monolithic Linux-style kernel?
[04:26] <KurtKraut> LjL, yes
[04:26] <Websteria> I copied my old bin directory from my old debian install
[04:26] <Websteria> so I can do mkdir and ls and cp again
[04:26] <LjL> Websteria: i
[04:26] <fredl> Linux is monolithic??
[04:26] <LjL> Websteria: i'll tell you what packages my /bin files belong to. hold on
[04:26] <Websteria> ok, thanks!
[04:26] <LjL> fredl: it's definitely far from a microkernel, yes
[04:26] <fredl> Huh? I don't understand what you mean with that LjL...
[04:26] <yapyccky> hello to everyone, just a question. Anyone knows how to disable black shadow on desktop fonts?
[04:27] <cryptonic> can anyone help me change the ubuntu install cd.iso into an install dvd .iso
[04:27] <cryptonic> ?
[04:27] <LjL> fredl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolithic_kernel
[04:29] <fredl> Hmm, a bit of a vague concept...
[04:30] <fredl> but I see the point.
[04:30] <LjL> fredl: i'm not sure the beginning of that article makes much sense, actually (join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want, i just asked about that)
[04:30] <sandy16> i am getting my desktop switching tool crashed when i am using ubutnu 6.10 how to get out of this?
[04:30] <lynyrd> Are there Linux sources 2.6.18 with Ubuntu patches available yet?
[04:31] <suff0kate> anyone know how to get a philips mp3 player to work on ubuntu?
[04:31] <soundray> suff0kate: does it work as a mass storage device?
[04:32] <SPF> hmm, my comp freezes at 23% of the ubuntu installation
[04:32] <LjL> Websteria: one more minute please, i'm having trouble getting the script to work right :)
[04:32] <Websteria> it's ok
[04:32] <Websteria> I think if I reinstall my installed Base System stuff it should work
[04:33] <suff0kate> idk
[04:33] <suff0kate> probably
[04:33] <antidrugue> i get an "error 2" trying to compile "linux-source-2.6.17" on ubuntu edgy : is there a more appropriate place for ubuntu kernel help ?
[04:33] <antidrugue> i pasted the error here : http://antidrugue.dyndns.org/config.linux/kernel.error.october15.2006.txt
[04:33] <Mille> anyone know why nm-applet doesn't work after ubuntu returns from hibernate mode? when hovering the mouse over the applet it says that no devices where found.
[04:33] <stefg> lynyrd: No, edgy uses 2.6.17, so there's no ubuntu-patched 2.6.18 available. But I run a vanilla kernel with ck-patches  fine on edgy
[04:33] <suff0kate> i heard something like you can access it through media/usb but when i plug it in it doesn't recognize it
[04:33] <soundray> Websteria: I was thinking that. You can probably reinstall all base packages from the package cache.
[04:33] <Websteria> yep
[04:33] <lynyrd> stefg, allright thanks.
[04:34] <Websteria> You can bet your ass I won't use rm -rf /bin again so soon
[04:34] <antidrugue> stefg : how did you compile it ? is there anything to it besides the usual make-kpkg etc. ?
[04:34] <suff0kate> damn
[04:34] <soundray> suff0kate: some MP3 players don't work as mass storage devices, and you need Windows XP to feed them (conspiracy theories, anyone?)
[04:34] <suff0kate> dang
[04:34] <pulsechirp> anyone know of a way to get a FireGL 2 card working under recent Ubuntu versions?
[04:35] <antidrugue> stefg : so 2.6.18 + ck1 patch ?
[04:35] <suff0kate> i guess ill install windows on a separate drive
[04:35] <suff0kate> thanks anyways
[04:35] <soundray> suff0kate: it's also worth stfw
[04:35] <stefg> no, nothing particular... except to have to take care of nvidia and vmplayer manually..
[04:35] <stefg> antidrugue: right
[04:35] <suff0kate> stfw?
[04:35] <soundray> suff0kate: "search the fine web"
[04:35] <suff0kate> danka
[04:36] <antidrugue> stefg : ok, did you try compiling the ubuntu kernel sources ?
[04:36] <soundray> suff0kate: for projects that aim to emulate the protocol used to feed this type of player.
[04:36] <Mille> and one other thing. i've just made another ext3 partition but ubuntu wont mount it. "device /dev/sda4 is not removable. could not execute pmount."
[04:36] <antidrugue> stefg : is there anything special there ?
[04:36] <Mille> any ideas why?
[04:37] <stefg> antidrugue: looong time ago... and it failed. So i have found my personal kernel-config and make-kpkg my own kernels when I feel like i need a new one
[04:38] <unfknblvbl> okay on the ubuntu au server asymptote is 1.03 and on the debian package servers they have 1.13
[04:38] <soundray> Mille: are you sure sda4 is the name of the new partition?
[04:38] <unfknblvbl> shouldn't ubuntu get the 1.13 version ?
[04:38] <antidrugue> stefg : i remember i succeded building (after i corrected the initial errors) a ubuntu source kernel on dapper : but it didn't boot the gui (though i used the .config from ubuntu)
[04:38] <soundray> Mille: check with fdisk -l /dev/sda
[04:38] <soundray> Mille: check with sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[04:38] <Mille> soundray, it says that its 36.9 Gb in the File Browser.
[04:38] <Mille> ok
[04:39] <antidrugue> stefg : i guess i'll do the same as you do : i was on debian sid last week with a 2.6.18 + ck1 and it worked like a charm
[04:39] <Mille> soundray, it's the correct one
[04:39] <antidrugue> stefg : thanks for your advices, i appreciate
[04:39] <soundray> Mille: and with 'sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt', you get the error above?
[04:39] <Mille> soundray, no, through the file browser -> "computer"
[04:39] <hume> i got a problem with my printers, i guess it is cups-related - is this the channel to talk about it or is there a cups-related channel?
[04:40] <stefg> antidrugue: i stopped worrying about the stock ubuntu-kernels since i've got nothing but trouble with them. noramlly i get a vanilla from kernel.org, patch it with th ck's and make an oldconfig
[04:40] <soundray> Mille: well, try that command in a terminal then.
[04:40] <Mille> soundray, hm. that works. should i create a subfolder in /mnt?
[04:40] <Zambezi> Is it possible to remote a computer without a graficcard?
[04:41] <antidrugue> stefg : that's my way too, but i'm a debian user, trying to make it to ubuntu ; so I wasn't sure
[04:41] <antidrugue> stefg : anyway, thanks : i'll do that right now
[04:41] <soundray> Mille: no, /mnt is for temporarily mounting a single filesystem for testing.
[04:41] <stefg> antidrugue: you now that ubuntu is an african saying for 'I can't configure debian' :-)
[04:42] <antidrugue> stefg : i guess i'll by fine then :)
[04:42] <Mille> soundray, oh ok. but anyway.. this is just a temporary solution. cause after rebooting i'll have to mount it again.
[04:42] <soundray> Mille: best thing to do is to add a line to /etc/fstab for that partition
[04:42] <hume> my print-jobs for one printer just gets terminated - is there a way to find out why? ipp job report just says stopped
[04:42] <soundray> Mille: you know how to do that?
[04:42] <Mille> soundray, non /etc/fstab and put 'sudo mout... ' in?
[04:43] <Mille> nano
[04:43] <soundray> Mille: no!
[04:43] <Mille> no
[04:43] <Mille> heh, i see the format there
[04:43] <soundray> Mille: so you can work it out?
[04:43] <antidrugue> hume : make sure your printer conf is ok in http://localhost:631
[04:43] <Mille> i'll give it the same options as sda1
[04:43] <Mille> i think so
[04:43] <Mille> soundray :-9
[04:43] <antidrugue> hume : connection type, driver, etc.
[04:43] <Mille> soundray, but where should i mount it?
[04:43] <OmniD> 100 dollars, for a wifi dongle
[04:44] <soundray> Mille: make sure you give it a different mountpoint, and that you mkdir that mountpoint before you try it out
[04:44] <ddddde> anyone with dapper and compiz?
[04:44] <OmniD> Okay guys a better question, can I get a regular wifi dongle to work on the 360?
[04:44] <soundray> Mille: how about /extraspace
[04:44] <antidrugue> hume : which printer model is it ?
[04:44] <stefg> OmniD: define 'regular'
[04:44] <Mille> soundray, yeah. one other question. can i make the fstab rerun without rebooting?
[04:44] <ppj1010> hey the ubuntu alternate, is it just not a live CD
[04:44] <soundray> Mille: yes, just run 'sudo mount -a'
[04:44] <bruenig> Mille, sudo mount -a
[04:44] <hume> antidrugue, epson stylus photo r340
[04:45] <OmniD> stefg: As in any of them that don't cost too much money. The official one is 100 dollars.
[04:45] <stefg> !wifi
[04:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:45] <hume> antidrugue, testpage works fine, but page with photos just gets terminated
[04:45] <soundray> bruenig: damn, you're slow
[04:45] <OmniD> Okay thanks I suppose think I'm in the wrong channel asking this
[04:45] <soundray> bruenig: scnr ;)
[04:45] <stefg> OmniD: you need a specific make and model to investigate if it'll work
[04:45] <Mille> bruenig, soundray, ok :-)
[04:45] <antidrugue> hume : oh, i see
[04:45] <OmniD> yeah just saying this is irrelevent to ubuntu though
[04:45] <ppj1010> anyone? is ubuntu alternate a text based installed as in its not a live cd?
[04:46] <cpk2> ppj1010: yup
[04:46] <stefg> ppj1010: right
[04:46] <ppj1010> cool, its not going to make me cfdisk myself is it
[04:46] <ppj1010> i hate that
[04:46] <hume> antidrugue, and same page with photos does print on another printer, HP office desk jet, but the quality there is not so goog
[04:46] <hume> good
[04:46] <Mille> soundray, last thing. the thingys after the "options" in fstab. "dump" and "pass" is it ok that i set them to "0" and "1" like on the sda1 (ubuntu partition)?
[04:46] <hume> antidrugue, so my problem is to make pages with high res pictures print on the epson
[04:46] <cpk2> ppj1010: haha I am not sure, havent used it
[04:47] <cpk2> ppj1010: I imagine it would be some ncurses installer
[04:47] <ppj1010> cool, guess ill find out
[04:47] <ppj1010> i always end up nuking the wrong drive when i trust myself to fdisk
[04:47] <soundray> Mille: it's usually 0 and 0 for nonroot partitions, but I don't know the rationale for that. man fstab will tell you more.
[04:47] <cpk2> =\
[04:47] <ppj1010> and boom, there goes 3 months worth of latina maids
[04:47] <ppj1010> sigh
[04:47] <stefg> ppj1010: backups are a good idea..especially for people with short attention span :-)
[04:48] <ppj1010> yeah i should probably pop an adderal prior to this
[04:48] <bruenig> backups are for losers
[04:48] <ppj1010> yeah. i live on the edge
[04:48] <Zvjer> on edgy ;)
[04:48] <ppj1010> lol
[04:48] <soundray> bruenig: "Real men just upload their important stuff by ftp and let the rest of the world mirror it" (L. Torvalds)
[04:48] <hume> antidrugue, got any idea on how to find out why print jobs ger cancelled?
[04:48] <ppj1010> i enjoy how my winxp decided today would be 4hours ahead of what time it was lastnight
[04:49] <Mille> soundray, worked without problems. :-) can i remove the "lost+found" on the partition?
[04:49] <soundray> hume: check the logs in /var/log/cups perhaps
[04:49] <soundray> Mille: no.
[04:49] <soundray> Mille: it will get recreated on the next fsck
[04:50] <J-_> ji'm using ispconfig, and it says enter your mysql server.... would that be the same server that apache is on?
[04:50] <Mille> soundray, one other thing. i want all users to have access to the drive. what options do i enter in fstab?
[04:50] <soundray> Mille: it's an ext3, right?
[04:50] <stefg> Mille: add 'users' in the option column
[04:51] <Mille> soundray, yes.
[04:51] <Episteme> Anyone feel up to giving me a hand with a kernel module? Can't seem to get ivtv to load
[04:51] <Mille> stefg, ok i'll try that
[04:51] <Mille> stefg, "defaults" aswell?
[04:51] <stefg> Mille: yes
[04:51] <soundray> Mille: stefg's option will let users mount it. Doesn't change access rights.
[04:51] <Mille> i'm having errors=remount-ro also (like the ubuntu partition)
[04:51] <hume> soundray, ok, error log says: (/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstoraster) crashed on signal 11! do you make any sense of that?
[04:51] <Mille> soundray, oh ok
[04:52] <SuperMiguel> does any one use vmware?
[04:52] <stefg> soundray, Mille, right, that's to mount it. But access rights are managed by the fs, not by the mount options
[04:52] <soundray> Mille: you need to use chmod -R a+rw /mountpoint or similar (read man chmod)
[04:52] <KDan> for some reason, when i ssh in with putty into my ubuntu boxes, the colour isn't displayed (even though it is on my non-ubuntu boxes)... any thoughts as to why?
[04:52] <hume> soundray, i got a feeling that there is too little memory allocated - could that be the case, or is that just a wrong idea?
[04:52] <bruenig> the a is unnecessary
[04:52] <soundray> hume: sure, your pstoraster got a signal 11 and crashed.
[04:52] <KDan> (by colour i mean colour in the console)
[04:52] <Mille> soundray, but shouldn't i enter that in fstab somehow so its done auto.?
[04:52] <soundray> hume: sorry, I;m not being helpful
[04:52] <hume> soundray, :)
[04:53] <stefg> Mille: you cant automatically cahnge owberships or modes by fstab
[04:53] <hume> soundray, you got any idea on what signal 11 could be about?
[04:53] <bruenig> Mille, it is stipulated in the options part of fstab
[04:53] <Gnomer__> mnepton, :D
[04:53] <yannick> hello
[04:53] <Mille> bruenig, stefg, you know the option? umask=755 or someting?
[04:54] <soundray> hume: have you got more than one of these errors in the logs?
[04:54] <Gnomer__> Hello yannick
[04:54] <SuperMiguel> Does any one know how to set up an vmware server??
[04:54] <soundray> Mille: you don't need umask for ext3
[04:54] <bruenig> don't know off hand, with the reference material that exists kind of a waste to memorize these things
[04:55] <soundray> Mille: chmod changes will last through remounts.
[04:55] <stefg> Mille: that's for drives whose fs doesn't support individual ownerships, like vfat. don't use that on native linux filesystems
[04:55] <Mille> stefg, oh ok.
[04:55] <Mille> ah, i see
[04:55] <bruenig> oh, it is ext3?
[04:56] <antidrugu1> hume : sorry i got disconnected
[04:56] <Gnomerq> :/
[04:56] <simtower> a computer is for retarded
[04:56] <soundray> simtower: sound like the start of a beautiful haiku
[04:57] <simtower> i can't think of the rest yet
[04:57] <Mille> soundray, how do i hide the lost+found in the root of the partition from the file browser?
[04:57] <zennix> ok i have a unusual question i cant see why exactly but i think i know ... my webpages load noice and fast but a download tends to load slow i loaded the same page on my other system and noice and fast so i tried the download and yep fast too.. so i think it may be the traffic of the network card but how do i set  it to a fster speed or maybe its the setup of the system it is pretty standard atm i can get files from the ubuntu server noice a
[04:57] <bruenig> Mille, why do you hate lost+found so much
[04:57] <stefg> Mille: you don't
[04:57] <soundray> Mille: you don't. Just get used to it ;)
[04:57] <Mille> arrggh
[04:57] <Mille> xD
[04:57] <Mille> thanks for all the help, you guys, bruenig, stefg soundray. and everybody else that i've may have missed.
[04:58] <stefg> Mille: or use reiserfs... doesn't have lost+found :-)
[04:58] <THX-1138> Linux Kernel 2.6.18 Real-Time Support. hat will that mean to most users? Composite Desktops? Gamers?
[04:58] <THX-1138> What*
[04:58] <Mille> ... when i'm here already. i dont know if you did see my question about the nm-applet...? when returning from hibernate mode (laptop) and i hover over the applet it says "no devices found".
[04:58] <stefg> THX-1138: people who do sound and video-editing
[04:59] <Mille> stefg, well, wont change the fs now. but thanks for the suggestion. :-)
[04:59] <THX-1138> Thanks stefg
[04:59] <bruenig> zennix, there might have been a higher server load when you tried on your machine or a variety of other factors, unless you had exact setups and did it simultaneously, it is not possible to determine the problem, if a problem even exists. Unless it was ridiculously slower it is probably not real
[04:59] <simtower> can anyone help me hibernate my laptop
[04:59] <soundray> THX-1138: nothing like that. Real-time support is for systems that have to respond to certain events within a predictable timeframe.
[04:59] <zennix> insanely slower
[05:00] <zennix> im on 512 adsl and my windows box got it full speed
[05:00] <zennix> but my linux box was dl at .07
[05:00] <Episteme> I followed instructions for the ivtv module, but modprobe ivtv results in Fatal Error: ivtv not found. Any suggestions?
[05:00] <Gnomer__> Can some one do me a favor and highlight me?
[05:00] <soundray> zennix: is that the same with all downloads, or just from that site?
[05:00] <bruenig> .07 kbps?
[05:00] <stefg> zennix: MTU-values right? Modem requires firmware?
[05:01] <Mille> no one with a laptop and the NetworkManager applet?! :p
[05:01] <[NoX] > Gnomer__
[05:01] <zennix> i finished the dl in like 5min 51 sec in wndows in my ubuntu system it is still going at .07kb/sec
[05:01] <Gnomer__> Spanks.
[05:01] <[NoX] > u're welcome xD
[05:01] <stefg> zennix: you might have run in the IPv6 problem as well
[05:01] <THX-1138> aoundray Thanks - no help for WoW? - lol
[05:02] <zennix> ipv6 ?
[05:02] <difeta> Hey all, I have compiz installed and running, but whenever I press the alt key, the on top window moves to the workspace on the right. How can I stop this from happening? it is very annoying.
[05:02] <stefg> !xgl
[05:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:02] <Gnomer__> [NoX] , :/ I don't like Tab completing your name. It requires me to type three characters.
[05:02] <bruenig> Gnomer__, I hate names like that
[05:02] <soundray> THX-1138: WoW = Wives of Windsor?
[05:02] <lmosher> I have an external 2.5" hard disk enclosure. What filesystem will be the fastest that I can use w/ both Linux and Windows (i.e. fat32 or should I try to read ext on windows?)
[05:02] <[NoX] > mh
[05:03] <Gnomer__> bruenig, Yeah, tell me about it.
[05:03] <[NoX] > Ok.
[05:03] <jimdaniels> i can't remove the vmware-player from synaptic. each tim i try to install or remove a package synaptic starts the vmware configuration. how can i prevent it from doing this and just force the vmware removal?
[05:03] <bruenig> lmosher, fat32
[05:03] <Abst> Anyone know a good podcast client?
[05:03] <soundray> THX-1138: I don't believe you. A is next to S
[05:03] <hume_> soundray, seems i got connection problems - did you respond to my "4 entries in the log"?
[05:03] <anon32> um... why do firefox and thunderbird have weird icons?
[05:03] <bruenig> Abst, rhythmbox has podcasting doesn't it?
[05:03] <soundray> hume_: sorry, didn't see that. Hold on...
[05:03] <KDan> anon32: define weird
[05:03] <simtower> jimdaniels, try rm -rf on the configurator
[05:03] <Gnomer__> anon32, got something against birds and foxes?!
[05:03] <stefg> jimdaniels: manually rm -rf /etc/vmware, then apt-get --purge vmplayer again
[05:03] <anon32> KDan, weird as in... not normal as in not the ones at http://mozilla.org
[05:04] <bruenig> anon32, the icons are nonfree, you can get the normal icons from certain scripts
[05:04] <anon32> ....
[05:04] <anon32> and those scripts would be?
[05:04] <KDan> do they have weird icons under ubuntu?
[05:04] <[NoX] > i'm trying tu find a nick it doesn't do that with, but on a 927people-chan that's a bit difficult ^^`
[05:04] <zennix> ipv6 ?
[05:04] <soundray> hume_: what version of gs-esp do you have (if any)?
[05:04] <bruenig> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34354&highlight=take+back+firefox
[05:04] <stefg> !ipv6
[05:04] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:04] <anon32> yay?
[05:04] <Gnomer__> [NoX] , hmm. [2*
[05:04] <Mortal`> How do I enable remote access to a Linux box through telnet?
[05:05] <stefg> zennix: reaad ubotus link
[05:05] <zennix> noice thanks ill read that
[05:05] <Mortal`> or ssh
[05:05] <anon32> why is the default mtu for dial-up 1500?
[05:05] <Gnomer__> ``, XD
[05:05] <soundray> Mortal`: you don't. Use ssh instead. (If you insist, install telnetd)
[05:05] <jamx> Mortal`: telnet ? u dont ;P
[05:05] <anon32> and how do I fix that?
[05:05] <Mortal`> or ssh
[05:05] <``> -NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else
[05:05] <``> ;(
[05:05] <jimdaniels> simtower: stefg: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:05] <Gnomer__> ``, try ```
[05:05] <jimdaniels> lol
[05:05] <KDan> Mortal`: apt-get install openss-server
[05:05] <stefg> jimdaniels: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:05] <Mortal`> thanks
[05:05] <lmosher> bruenig, Is it better to make the whole thing fat32, or do split it ext3, fat32 and ntfs and just use the fat32 to pass files between?
[05:05] <```> same
[05:06] <KDan> yeah with sudo before
[05:06] <Gnomer__> ```, depressing :(
[05:06] <```> lol
[05:06] <Mortal`> sure
[05:06] <linuxboy> KDan: openssh-server
[05:06] <KDan> er
[05:06] <hume_> soundray, 8.15.2.dfsg.0ubuntu1
[05:06] <KDan> yeah
[05:06] <jimdaniels> stefg: damn E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:06] <KDan> typos--
[05:06] <```> * ```` :Erroneous Nickname
[05:06] <```> Oo
[05:06] <Gnomer__> o.O
[05:06] <bruenig> lmosher, I don't know what you are using it for. If this is an external drive whose sole purpose is file exchange, making it fat32 makes the most sense to me
[05:06] <jimdaniels> stefg: i'm trying to get  rid of this for days now
[05:07] <soundray> hume_: are you printing a very large document?
[05:07] <``> shit.
[05:07] <wastrel> Hello, and thank you for dropping in.  We're very happy to chat with you this morning.
[05:07] <lmosher> bruenig, I guess it's really just for file storage for my laptop so I don't clutter the main drive with, for example, 10Gb of *.pdf references or something..
[05:07] <simtower> vmware player sucks eh?
[05:07] <simtower> ``, ?
[05:07] <Mortal`> KDan, I think it's working. Thanks.
[05:07] <duckdown> Hey all... Just a question about Firefox.. Last night my buddy linked me to a hilarious animated .gif file that was hosted on some stupid Geocities or similar site, but now when I try to load that page the hoster says the person has exceeded their daily bandwidth, therefore I cannot view it..  Is this .gif saved in my cache anywhere or anything like that?  Is there any way I can find this picture?
[05:07] <stefg> jimdaniels: broken apt can be annoying, i know... do you know which package is broken?
[05:07] <jimdaniels> simtower: yes
[05:07] <hume_> soundray, its a pdf file of 85 MB, trying to print just first page
[05:07] <jimdaniels> yea appearantly the vmware-player
[05:07] <jrib> duckdown: try about:cache in the url bar
[05:07] <Gnomer__> ``, How about "`[NoX] `"
[05:07] <Gnomer__> then I could just tab complete on `
[05:08] <duckdown> jrib neat, let me try that, thank you sir
[05:08] <Gnomer__> `[NoX] `, ownage.
[05:08] <bruenig> duckdown, the cache is located in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/Cache
[05:08] <`[NoX] `> Adopted :)
[05:08] <Gnomer__> `[NoX] `, <.<
[05:08] <coyctecm> hi
[05:08] <Gnomer__> coyctecm, Hi.
[05:08] <jimdaniels> duckdown: can you send me the gif when you found it?
[05:09] <coyctecm> anybody have problem with kde 3.5.5 and usb stick automount?
[05:09] <KDan> Mortal`: np
[05:09] <soundray> hume_: it might be worth installing pdftk and extracting the first page, then print only that.
[05:09] <KDan> is there a quick'n'easy vi command to make it double every word? e.g turn a line with "myfile" int a line with "myfile myfile" (or even "myfilemyfile", that'll do too)
[05:09] <Minifig> Does anyone know if it is possiblle to get and run Penguin Command in Ubuntu Desktop 6.06?
[05:09] <KDan> sorry double every line
[05:09] <hume_> soundray, ok. my idea was to sort of allocate more memory to it, it that could be done. will try your suggestion
[05:09] <stefg> jimdaniels: read dpkg --force-help for info on how to force deisnatllation of vmplayer
[05:10] <bruenig> Minifig, what is Penguin Command?
[05:10] <Minifig> Can I switch from Gnome to KDE?
[05:10] <jrib> ubotu: tell Minifig about kde
[05:10] <Minifig> Penguin Command is a game
[05:10] <Minifig> Missile Command like game.
[05:10] <bruenig> !info penguin-command
[05:10] <ubotu> penguin-command: a missile command clone. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.10-1 (dapper), package size 1028 kB, installed size 1668 kB
[05:10] <soundray> Minifig: sudo apt-get install penguin-command
[05:10] <coyctecm> I just upgraded to kde 3.5.5 and my usb sticks doesn't mount anymore. they work fine with gnome
[05:10] <bruenig> Minifig, have you enabled the universe repository?
[05:11] <Minifig> I have no idea.  I am new to this Linux ...  I shall behave.  lol
[05:11] <duckdown> Darn, I went into the cache folder, theres just like 3 files; _CACHE_001_ , 002, and _CACHE_MAP_   Apparently no way to browse it? :(
[05:12] <Minifig> Let me know what to do and I will try it.
[05:12] <bruenig> duckdown, if you want to view it in nautilus, navigate to the home folder, press ctrl + h to show the hidden folders and then go to that directory
[05:12] <stefg> jimdaniels: sudo dpkg -r --force-all vmware-player
[05:12] <Milkyy> Hello. How do I access repositories from a webbrowser?
[05:12] <jimdaniels> error on processing vmware-player
[05:12] <jimdaniels> stefg: aaahhhh
[05:13] <jimdaniels> stefg: i will never install it again. not the first time i have problems with it
[05:13] <soundray> duckdown: that's unusual -- are you sure you're in the cache dir of your current browser?
[05:13] <bruenig> Minifig, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096 follow that link it will tell you how to enable universe repository, once you do that open a terminal Applications>Accesories>terminal and type this "sudo apt-get install penguin-command" put your password in and it should install
[05:13] <duckdown> bruenig Yeah I'm in the folder, but theres no .jpeg's or anything
[05:13] <bruenig> duckdown, how much have you allocated your cache to use?
[05:13] <duckdown> yep, /home/duckdown/.mozilla/firefox/886t5oxl.default/cache
[05:13] <soundray> duckdown: do a 'file * | grep -i gif'
[05:13] <duckdown> I didn't allocate anything manually bruenig ? :)
[05:13] <Minifig> Thank you.  I really appreciate it.
[05:13] <jimdaniels> anybody? how can i get rid of vmware-player when it'S broken
[05:13] <duckdown> soundray cool, one sec let me try
[05:14] <bruenig> duckdown, then it should be 70 something megabytes
[05:14] <catalytic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30510
[05:14] <catalytic> anyone tried this on xfce ?
[05:14] <duckdown> soundray nothing..
[05:14] <duckdown> _CACHE_001_  _CACHE_002_  _CACHE_003_  _CACHE_MAP_  F36E1AF6d01
[05:14] <duckdown> thats all that is in there...
[05:14] <duckdown> those are files also, not directories :(
[05:15] <bruenig> duckdown, mine looks like that too, little different but a bunch of unreadable files, I think it is because I set it to clear my cache though whenever I close the browser
[05:15] <soundray> duckdown: then it's not cached. Ask your friend to email you the gif.
[05:15] <zennix> ok i woudl liek to say thankyou
[05:15] <zennix> that fixed the problem perfectly
[05:15] <Axord> duckdown, are you using Firefox?
[05:15] <duckdown> Darn =(
[05:15] <duckdown> Axord yessir
[05:15] <duckdown> soundray thanks anyways then :(
[05:15] <duckdown> thanks also bruenig
[05:16] <Axord> duckdown, type about:cache in your browser addressbar
[05:16] <stefg> zennix: ipv6 was the problem?
[05:16] <bruenig> duckdown, if you want to check the setting in firefox, go to edit>preferences, then privacy, then cache
[05:16] <duckdown> Axord Hehehe I have, I'm in the cache folder =(
[05:16] <zennix> that worked a restart and the file is transferrign at some noice speeds
[05:16] <zennix> yep i did the alias net-pf-10 off
[05:16] <zennix> and now it is workign perfectly
[05:16] <duckdown> bruenig it says use up to 200mb
[05:16] <duckdown> how strange
[05:16] <soundray> zennix: noice isn't a word (or have I missed the latest trend?)
[05:16] <zennix> gotta love god advice
[05:16] <Axord> duckdown:  strange, you dhouldn't see a folder
[05:17] <bruenig> duckdown, what about the clear private data tool on the bottom
[05:17] <duckdown> the folder only has like 16328 in size, according to 'du'
[05:17] <jrib> duckdown: you should be able to "list cache entries" in firefox
[05:17] <zennix> lol its a aussie slang word for nice
[05:17] <bruenig> duckdown, does it say it clears cache on ever exit?
[05:17] <atk> Why on earth did an upgrade change my sudoers file..
[05:17] <duckdown> bruenig Nope, it's unchecked
[05:17] <zennix> but when soundign out nice put a o in the sound and you get a slang word
[05:17] <duckdown> "Clear private data when closing firefox"
[05:17] <duckdown> is unchecked
[05:17] <bruenig> duckdown, that is a bit weird then
[05:17] <atk> the upgrade process didn't even ask me if I wanted to keep the old version :(
[05:17] <Minifig> Wonderful.  Its geat for them to show pics.
[05:18] <soundray> zennix: I know, like in 'roid, Sally, roid"
[05:18] <cpk2> noice sounds like new york accent to me
[05:18] <Minifig> Even a brain dead fool such as I can use it.  lol
[05:18] <cpk2> when i sound it out that is
[05:18] <duckdown> This is bad :(
[05:18] <Episteme> modprobe ivtv    Fatal Error: ivtv not found.  What should I check first?
[05:19] <zennix> lol new york and aussie burbs are not that far apart in communication
[05:19] <stefg> atk: that's probably an ubuntuism... the no-root-but-sudo-policy might have triggered that
[05:19] <zennix> both are ugly and yet functional
[05:19] <zennix> thats like sweet is pronounced swoit
[05:19] <atk> stefg: well it resulted in me not having no sudo access at all
[05:20] <zennix> or there abouts
[05:20] <zennix> thansk again ill go back to playing with my compiz setup
[05:20] <sbriglie> hi
[05:20] <sbriglie> is there a powerpc-specific channel?
[05:21] <atk> stefg: I did reboot the computer to rescue / single mode, chmod o+w sudoers, vim sudoers, reboot and now... guess who forgot to do chmod o-w to sudoers file? :D
[05:21] <jimdaniels> the one that tells me how i remove vmware-player gets the nobel price of freedom
[05:21] <Minifig> Is there a way to switch to KDE or should I stay with Gnome?
[05:21] <stefg> atk: ugly... but group admin should have sudo-rights, and you should be member of admin...
[05:21] <chrishoeppner> rpc, know what? I asked my hosting provider and they enabled restricted ssh access for me. mediatemple are really top notch for customer support. and thank you for your help before.
[05:21] <soundray> Minifig: just install kubuntu-desktop if you want KDE
[05:22] <jimdaniels> Minifig: gnome rocks stay with it
[05:22] <bruenig> duckdown, try putting this in the browser, I think it will only direct you to the page and since your site has exceeded bandwidth it wont work but maybe about:cache?device=disk
[05:22] <POVaddct> chrishoeppner: cool!
[05:22] <Minifig> Okay.  Thank you all.
[05:22] <Minifig> brb
[05:22] <bruenig> Minifig, do install kde-core not kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop is painfully slow
[05:22] <atk> stefg: I am part of admin group
[05:22] <chrishoeppner> POVaddct, yeah really.
[05:23] <atk> stefg: what bothers me the most is that I never got the chance to say no, don't overwrite. I just saw, /etc/sudoers overwritten text in the process.
[05:23] <stefg> atk: My point was to remind you, that you shouldn't put your user account in sudoers, but the group admin, so all members of admin can do sudo
[05:24] <atk> stefg: I understand your point and thanks for the remainder
[05:24] <jimdaniels> stefg: do you know anything else i can try on the vmware issue?
[05:24] <wastrel> atk:  visudo
[05:25] <POVaddct> chrishoeppner: in which way is the ssh account restricted?
[05:25] <atk> wastrel: didn't knew that, thanks
[05:25] <wastrel> better luck next time :] 
[05:26] <jimdaniels> -_-
[05:26] <chrishoeppner> POVaddct, it's a shared server. I can't for example rumble loose on apache threads on such stuff.
[05:26] <stefg> jimdaniels: clamping packages are a PITA... maybe a sudo aptitude install --reinstall vmware-player will restore the situation so that you can apt-get remove --purge vmware-player afterwards
[05:27] <POVaddct> chrishoeppner: yeah, that's reasonable. any restrictions regarding shell commands?
[05:27] <jimdaniels> stefg: to much PITA if you ask me. is --reinstall the same operation as reinstalling the package in synaptic?
[05:27] <catalytic> how do i work out what kernel im running?
[05:27] <stefg> jimdaniels: yes
[05:28] <stefg> catalytic: uname -r
[05:28] <pale_horse> catalytic,  uname -a
[05:28] <pale_horse> LOL
[05:28] <jimdaniels> ok so i can tell that doesn't work. i tried reinstalling and removing it afterwards several times. but i get the same errors allready on reinstall
[05:28] <Diego> I plugged in the LiveCD, but when I open up Gparted, it gets stuck at "scanning devices" and the installation process gets stuck at step 3, "keyboard layout"
[05:28] <catalytic> ok cheers
[05:28] <jimdaniels> isn't there a way to wipe it all off by hand?
[05:28] <chrishoeppner> POVaddct, i'm still experimenting. so far i'm able to use mysql from command line, and do normal file operations... lemme look a bit closer into crontab and such
[05:29] <SurfnOldFart> does linux support legacy hardware technologies and IPX?
[05:29] <stefg> jimdaniels: i had similar problems some time ago and read through the apt and dpkg docu.. there's the tools to forcefully resolve that, but I can't recall the exact procedure
[05:30] <ppj1010> oh my god i am having the worst time installing this
[05:30] <SurfnOldFart> ppj1010, aint it fun? :P
[05:30] <ppj1010> either my dvd burner, or my computer says FU ubuntu.
[05:30] <SurfnOldFart> mmm probably the dvd, i had problems too with one
[05:30] <ppj1010> is there a way to do md5 checksums without rebooting
[05:31] <ppj1010> im on my 4th cd, x64, 386..
[05:31] <ppj1010> im going to burn at like..24x this time
[05:31] <SurfnOldFart> oh
[05:31] <SurfnOldFart> never burned in linux before
[05:31] <SurfnOldFart> still in the works :P
[05:31] <Diego> I plugged in the LiveCD, but when I open up Gparted, it gets stuck at "scanning devices" and the installation process gets stuck at step 3, "keyboard layout". Anyone know what might be wrong?
[05:31] <stefg> ppj1010: You know ShipIt, don't you?
[05:31] <ppj1010> SurfnOldFart, im in xp burning it w/alcohol
[05:32] <ppj1010> stefg, yeah, im impatient
[05:32] <ppj1010> considering i can download the iso in about 3 minutes
[05:32] <ppj1010> :L
[05:32] <ppj1010> everything is failling at install base system
[05:32] <SurfnOldFart> oh
[05:32] <ppj1010> different isos..
[05:33] <stefg> ppj1010: who knows how many copyprotection and rootkit-like Burn-Preventers already live on your win-partition...
[05:33] <cpk2> ppj1010: check the iso *before* burning it
[05:33] <ppj1010> cpk2, how?
[05:33] <ppj1010> stefg, this is true
[05:33] <SurfnOldFart> i never check my iso's and never had problems
[05:34] <SurfnOldFart> hangfire, where from
[05:34] <ppj1010> i never did until i built this computer
[05:34] <ppj1010> must be the uberpopular Nec 3550a i have
[05:34] <SurfnOldFart> microsoft is about to have one less customer today
[05:34] <ppj1010> who me?
[05:34] <hangfire> Im in Mexico
[05:34] <ppj1010> im a windows system admin, i doubt it
[05:34] <ppj1010> lol
[05:35] <anon32> MS bashing ain't cool..
[05:35] <ppj1010> ah
[05:35] <ppj1010> Is automatix still being updated
[05:35] <ppj1010> i dont feel like going through codec hell
[05:35] <SurfnOldFart> anon32, actually i still like windows, but just for gaming, nothing else
[05:35] <rambo3> somone has that windows genuine flash link from microsoft
[05:35] <SurfnOldFart> hangfire, cool, where
[05:35] <Minifig> How do I run P C now?  I don't see it in the menu under games.
[05:35] <ppj1010> rambo3, are you asking or telling?
[05:35] <hangfire> just outside of Mexico City
[05:35] <SurfnOldFart> toluca
[05:35] <richee> hi folks I have a compaq presario v2356 laptop, when I do a lspci my modem shows up in the list...so how will I know which device it is like /dev/modem plz help
[05:36] <kristjin> I have done some searching on the net for a solution and have not found anything that answers my question, but I'm finding it difficult to google.  I want to switch easily between being logged into Windows and Linux.  I found this site:  http://cookieswap.mozdev.org/  Which talks about a program called "cookieswap" for firefox.  Neat idea.  Basically, then, if you will, what I would *love* is something like Grub-Swap.
[05:36] <hangfire> Cuernavaca
[05:36] <kristjin> Does something like that exist?
[05:36] <rambo3> asking cant remember adress i think it was on msdn
[05:36] <SurfnOldFart> cool
[05:36] <kristjin> As far as I can tell, it does not.
[05:36] <SurfnOldFart> well join the fun
[05:36] <GortiZ> someone could help me? i have a problem with a drive name...
[05:36] <hangfire> thx surfn, maybe see you at Puerto Escondido some time
[05:36] <wastrel> cuernacava eh
[05:36] <SurfnOldFart> yeah
[05:36] <hangfire> yep
[05:37] <GortiZ> last time i have ran ubuntu the icon on the dektop linked to my fat32 partition have another name,,,
[05:37] <rambo3> found it http://www.microsoft.com/slovenija/malapodjetja/flash/bob.swf
[05:37] <zennix> hey again in terminal how do i get to run  a file i can see and knwo the name of
[05:37] <GortiZ> how can i set up the name that i prefer?
[05:37] <zennix> ive logged into terminal as root
[05:38] <richee> !modem
[05:38] <zennix> and can see the file after i listed the directory
[05:38] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[05:38] <GortiZ> you have to type ./name
[05:38] <Scognito> hi
[05:38] <GortiZ> where name is the name of the software
[05:38] <zennix> GortiZ was that to me ?
[05:38] <rambo3> or n./ick
[05:38] <Scognito> i have problem of often freenzing for 2 sec the entire notebook (core duo)
[05:38] <GortiZ> yes zennix
[05:39] <zennix> coolios
[05:39] <duckdown> jimdaniels not sure if you were serious about the .gif link, but, http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/djblack925/Silva-knee_Franklin-nose.gif
[05:39] <Scognito> i searched on internet and found the problem is in the controller
[05:39] <rambo3> what controller
[05:39] <Scognito> the error i get is ata2 is slow to respond, please be patient
[05:39] <GortiZ> someone know the way to set the name of the link on the desktop?
[05:39] <SurfnOldFart> haha i feel naked without my COA haha
[05:39] <|2hasaz> I just installed Ubuntu last night, it's pretty awesome.
[05:39] <Scognito> rambo3, the default one
[05:39] <unfknblvbl> how do i get ubuntu to keep system logs ?
[05:39] <|2hasaz> Now, i'm already having trouble.
[05:40] <Diego> I plugged in the LiveCD, but when I open up Gparted, it gets stuck at "scanning devices" and the installation process gets stuck at step 3, "keyboard layout". Anyone know what might be wrong?
[05:40] <SurfnOldFart> |2hasaz, yes, congrats man, there's more you can do with it
[05:40] <bruenig> !ubotu tell Diego about alternate
[05:40] <rambo3> Scognito, do you dma on
[05:40] <jimdaniels> duckdown: that had to hurt
[05:40] <duckdown> jimdaniels hahahaha yup
[05:40] <leakd> !packages
[05:40] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[05:40] <jimdaniels> how did you get the link back?
[05:40] <duckdown> jimdaniels had to keep asking for it in the UFC channel
[05:40] <duckdown> someone else had it
[05:40] <jimdaniels> your mate resent it?
[05:40] <ppj1010> Diego, burn another cd maybe
[05:40] <duckdown> no luck with firefox :(
[05:41] <duckdown> jimdaniels yea
[05:41] <jimdaniels> duckdown: what's ufc?
[05:41] <duckdown> jimdaniels what that clip is from, Ultimate Fighting Championship
[05:41] <duckdown> it was on payper view
[05:41] <duckdown> last night :)
[05:41] <rambo3> !dma >Scognito
[05:42] <|2hasaz> I got a Creative Sound Blaster Live 24bit and I was wonderin g how would I set it up in Ubuntu?
[05:42] <GortiZ> ... a way to change icons name on the desktop?
[05:42] <jimdaniels> it looks too funny when the nose guy is talking with the can in his hand. like nothing happened
[05:42] <GortiZ> ... |2hasaz: I have one too...
[05:42] <PingunZ> How can I show a three on the left side of nautilus & prevent nautilus from opening a new window each time I click a folder ?
[05:43] <Minifig> I can't figure out how to start Penguin Command.
[05:43] <|2hasaz> How would I set up the EAX and other settting sfor Ubuntu?
[05:43] <GortiZ> don't know... the card is in the computer at my home... just 3 month away from home...
[05:44] <|2hasaz> :(
[05:44] <Scognito> rambo3, sorry
[05:44] <Scognito> checking now
[05:44] <rambo3> PingunZ, change it in properties -> behaviour
[05:45] <bruenig> |2hasaz, plug it in, reboot
[05:45] <Scognito> rambo3, hdparm doesn't show dma entry
[05:45] <PingunZ> rambo3, I've figured it out already, ty ;)
[05:45] <DrBanzai> Any good har drive repair tools for Ubuntu?
[05:45] <|2hasaz> Bruenig, it's already in?
[05:45] <jrib> Minifig: type 'penguin-command' ina  terminal
[05:45] <ppj1010> is automatix still updated?
[05:45] <bruenig> |2hasaz, I used that before and it just worked
[05:46] <hangfire> DrBanzai- you mean like fdisk?
[05:46] <rambo3> Scognito, you might try dma on , but it doesn't mean if it will work when cable is defected or something else .
[05:46] <|2hasaz> Well brue how would I play mp3's on my Ubuntu?
[05:46] <|2hasaz> Cause nothing plays them. I keep getitng a it's not a valid stream...
[05:46] <cpk2> !mp3
[05:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:46] <DrBanzai> hangfire, Well, similer to fdisk.  I've got a laptop drive that sorta works, and I'd like to try and fix it
[05:46] <GortiZ> that is a problem of codec!
[05:46] <GortiZ> not a problem of sound card...
[05:46] <|2hasaz> I'm new...
[05:47] <|2hasaz> :-P
[05:47] <zennix> can i pm someone please about terminal
[05:47] <GortiZ> don't worry..
[05:47] <jrib> Minifig: if you are on edgy, be careful because I just tried running penhuin command and it killed my mouse cursor
[05:47] <|2hasaz> Also, i'm having difficulty with FLash in FF.
[05:47] <jrib> |2hasaz: what difficulty?
[05:47] <jrib> zennix: just ask here
[05:47] <|2hasaz> Like it doesnt show the text, oir doesnt play any sound.
[05:47] <jrib> !fonts
[05:47] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[05:47] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[05:47] <rambo3> |2hasaz, try asking ubotu
[05:47] <bruenig> |2hasaz, you have installed flashplugin-nonfree?
[05:48] <jrib> ubotu: tell |2hasaz about flash
[05:48] <GortiZ> some one could tell me how to change the name of the drives icon on the desktop?
[05:48] <|2hasaz> Macomedia Flash 7
[05:48] <rambo3> adn dont use ! send priv to ubotu
[05:48] <Scognito> rambo3, i read this post
[05:48] <Scognito> http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=63089
[05:48] <eztk> !easyubuntu
[05:48] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:48] <jrib> |2hasaz: see what ubotu said above about fonts.  Then see the restricted formats wiki page he sent you about sound in flash
[05:48] <Scognito> seems that current kernel version is affected of that bug
[05:48] <zennix> can i pm someone please about terminal
[05:48] <|2hasaz> Thanks. :)
[05:48] <bruenig> !msg
[05:48] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[05:48] <Scognito> is there somewhere a recent kernel > 2.6.15
[05:48] <eztk> you want flash, java, fonts, codecs installed?? then EasyUbuntu is your friend
[05:49] <zennix> ok it just goes so fat i get confused
[05:49] <robbie> i have a question folks
[05:49] <bruenig> eztk or a quick restricted formats ought to do it
[05:49] <hangfire> automatix is a bit better than easyubuntu imo
[05:49] <robbie> I just installed fluxbox, and I'm wondering how to set it as the default window manager?
[05:49] <jimdaniels> stefg: looks like the dpkg --force-things won't help me get around this config. ahh pita
[05:49] <jimdaniels> pitfa
[05:50] <eztk> how can I drop my screen refresh rate? it's stuck at 75Hz, the flat panel works better at 60Hz. it's stuck at 75Hz on the preferences
[05:50] <m0_> hi
[05:50] <m0_> how do I run a .jar file?
[05:50] <cdavis> how can i get xmms to play a vox file?
[05:50] <eztk> it was a pain to increase the screen res from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 - why didn't Ubuntu pick up the fact I could use higher resolutions
[05:50] <cwh1947> anyone know of a pcmcia wireless card that wooks out of the box?
[05:50] <zennix> ok im in ctrl alt f2 and i am logged in as root ... i am looking at the contence of a folder and i want to run a file in it the files name is NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run how do i get the file to run
[05:50] <cwh1947> works
[05:51] <bruenig> zennix, just type its path
[05:51] <zennix> ok
[05:51] <cdavis> and if xmms cannot, what can I use to play a vox file?
[05:52] <zennix> how do i list the path cos i dont know how from where i am
[05:52] <thedude_> hi, recently aptitude decided to uninstall kubuntu-desktop on me,  now when i try to reinstall it it gives me but it is not going to be installed
[05:52] <zennix> i knwo rthe file name it is the default location
[05:52] <thedude_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:52] <thedude_>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[05:52] <eztk> hangfire: ill have a look at automatix - thanks for the suggestion
[05:52] <bruenig> zennix, where is that file at in the filesystem?
[05:52] <rambo3> Scognito, most of them dont know what they are talking about
[05:52] <Scognito> lol
[05:52] <zennix> main users desktop
[05:53] <Scognito> btw the problem is that one
[05:53] <Scognito> random freezes
[05:53] <Scognito> for 2-3 secs
[05:53] <bruenig> zennix, ok well do ls Desktop to see if it is there
[05:53] <thedude_> anyone know how to fix this?
[05:53] <Scognito> than works again
[05:53] <|2hasaz> How would I copy window files to Ubuntu?
[05:53] <felixflores86> hello
[05:53] <zennix> yep
[05:53] <zennix> is there
[05:53] <felixflores86> can anyone help out a newbie
[05:53] <rambo3> Scognito, yes i see but they think they solved ata2 freeze buy installing nvidia drivers.
[05:53] <zennix> most of us are newbies
[05:53] <bruenig> zennix, ok then do ~/Desktop/filename
[05:54] <zennix> withthe ~
[05:54] <bruenig> yeah, just copy and paste that
[05:54] <bruenig> or I guess you can't
[05:54] <bruenig> ha
[05:54] <felixflores86> does anyone know how to setup up the permissions on an external hd so that i can read and write on it even if its on ntfs format
[05:54] <Scognito> a guy solved recompiling 2.6.18, but didn't tell what did
[05:54] <bruenig> !ntfs
[05:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:54] <Scognito> but i hope to don't recompile the kerne
[05:54] <Big0rNo> hi...how can i install some packages on an USB key while using a live-cd ?
[05:55] <cwh1947> anyone know of wireless cards (pcmcia) that work out of the box?
[05:55] <bruenig> felixflores86, I don't believe you can write to ntfs, at least not by default
[05:55] <cpk2> !fuse
[05:55] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:55] <Scognito> i got error even trying to add dma support
[05:55] <felixflores86> thanks guys
[05:55] <Scognito> failed inappropriate ioctl for device
[05:55] <felixflores86> I have another problem
[05:55] <rambo3> Scognito, set dma on first . then if it doesnt help try falling back to an older kernel . if not that recompile your kernel with missing drivers. (and i dont know that drivers they are ? nvidia, ata2 ). it isn't that hard but it takes some time
[05:56] <richee> Finally configured my modem....is there any phone kinda software in ubuntu ?
[05:56] <sbriglie> i have a question regarding the default ubuntu ppc kernel
[05:56] <sbriglie>  I am pretty sure the rivafb frambebuffer driver needs to be compiled in the kernel image and not as a module to have lcd brightness control and usplash working with more than 256 colors on my 12 inch powerbook
[05:56] <Scognito> don't even know if a module ata2 exists
[05:56] <rambo3> Scognito, you should notice the developers at launchpad about this
[05:56] <Scognito> (i don't have it loaded)
[05:57] <felixflores86> my friend is trying to install ubuntu to his machine, but his cd rom drive doesn't work so we copies the ubuntu image into my external hd. Then we try to boot of my external hd and we got a pxe-e61 error (media test failure)
[05:57] <zennix> ok then how do i change directory up one on the tree
[05:58] <Big0rNo> Is it possible to install some packages on USB key using a live-cd ?
[05:58] <richee> !phone
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <Scognito> rambo3, don't know what launchpad is :)
[05:58] <bruenig> felixflores86, I have never heard somebody using an external hd to install any OS, that is not to say it can't work but it seems like a longshot
[05:58] <felixflores86> oh
[05:59] <ranbee> hi, does anyone know how to make nautilus' icons 85% smaller? there's an option for 75% but that's too small!
[05:59] <bruenig> felixflores86, does he have a dvd drive?
[05:59] <felixflores86> no
[05:59] <felixflores86> it broke
[05:59] <none> What does "you seem to be running an X server" mean??
[05:59] <felixflores86> so we copied the ubuntu image on the root directory of the hd to make it act like the cd
[06:00] <felixflores86> but that didnt work
[06:00] <adamh> How can I get python-profiler for Python 2.5?
[06:00] <rambo3> Scognito, ask ubotu . and google : "failed inappropriate ioctl for device ata2"
[06:01] <DemisM> what do you guys use for p2p?
[06:01] <notwist> bittorent :)
[06:01] <bruenig> bittorrent, specifically utorrent
[06:01] <notwist> rTorrent <3
[06:01] <felixflores86> is there a way to trick the system to thinking that my external hd is a cdrom drive
[06:01] <benjaminwr> when is edgys final release???
[06:01] <bruenig> benjaminwr, oct 26
[06:01] <DemisM> k :)
[06:01] <benjaminwr> ok
[06:01] <benjaminwr> thanx
[06:01] <FabienD> hi all
[06:01] <kmon_> Hi. Anyone knows how to set epiphany to load external links and new windows is a new tab? (single window mode)
[06:01] <adamh> felixflores86: What do you mean by that? What do you want to do specifically?
[06:02] <felixflores86> my friend is trying to install ubuntu to his machine, but his cd rom drive doesn't work so we copies the ubuntu image into my external hd. Then we try to boot of my external hd and we got a pxe-e61 error (media test failure)
[06:02] <felixflores86> so
[06:02] <felixflores86> so we copied the ubuntu image on the root directory of the hd to make it act like the cd
[06:02] <adamh> kmon_: Put in "about:config" in the address bar and... uh... it's probably one of the options. Search for "link" in that interface, maybe
[06:02] <adamh> felixflores86: There's certainly a way to do it (most likely leaving the CD as an ISO)...
[06:02] <kmon_> adamh: there are some options there
[06:02] <kmon_> adamh: but I don't know the one
[06:03] <zennix> ok then how do i change directory up one on the directory tree
[06:03] <bruenig> kmon_, it is probably in the menus at the top somewhere. Find preferences, in firefox it is edit>preferences
[06:03] <felixflores86> oh so leave it as iso not as uncompress package
[06:03] <felixflores86> because i uncompressed it
[06:03] <kmon_> bruenig: epiphany ;)
[06:03] <adamh> kmon_: Maybe browser.link.open_newwindow (but I don't know what value to set)
[06:03] <adamh> You can find the value by looking at what about:config says about it in Firefox :)
[06:03] <bruenig> epiphany, hmmm might as well blow your head off
[06:04] <adamh> bruenig: Why is that?
[06:04] <JustAPanda_1934> where can i get help on setting up proftpd please?
[06:04] <bruenig> more of an opinion
[06:05] <jimdaniels> how can i remove all files that are installed from a deb manually?
[06:05] <adamh> bruenig: What could be done to improve it, in your opinion? :)
[06:05] <Zambezi> Anybody know tct?
[06:05] <adamh> jimdaniels: dpkg --remove --purge [package]  (or something)
[06:05] <Minifig> This iis most likely a really bad question, but I have Ubuntu Desktop running in a virtual program.  Should I take a chance and install it on my PC?  I have a 10GB drive waiting to be used.
[06:05] <adamh> jimdaniels: That will remove the entire package
[06:05] <overridex> when booting from the ubuntu live cd, is there a way to disable evms from starting? it locks up everytime it hits that (i have some old lv disks in the box i assume are causing it)
[06:06] <Minifig> This PC is running XP pro on a 160GB drive with a 10GB and 20GB drive free to use.
[06:06] <adamh> felixflores86: Do you have a floppy drive? :)
[06:06] <jimdaniels> adamh: iwant a list of filenames and folders and remove them by rm -r with the terminal. i cant remove the package with synaptic and dpkg and apt-get
[06:06] <kmon_> thanks
[06:06] <adamh> jimdaniels: why can't you remove the package?
[06:06] <felixflores86> no
[06:06] <overridex> or is there an interactive startup for the live cd?
[06:06] <felixflores86> no floppy
[06:07] <adamh> felixflores86: Are you in Windows, or in another Linux/UNIX distribution?
[06:07] <steve> hey
[06:07] <adamh> felixflores86: Do you have a USB key? :)
[06:07] <felixflores86> he has windows now but we
[06:07] <steve> whats up
[06:07] <felixflores86> he has windows now but we're trying to make his system dual boot
[06:07] <frtdx> hi everyone
[06:07] <felixflores86> he doesnt have a usb key
[06:07] <jimdaniels> nothing steve
[06:07] <pinosho> hello
[06:07] <steve> im new to ubuntu
[06:08] <frtdx> can freebsd and ubuntu coexist?
[06:08] <rawler> heya ppl!
[06:08] <ad> soundray: still here ? I have booted with my kaela knoppix ... I m ready :)
[06:08] <adamh> felixflores86: Okay... and the CD drive doesn't work *at all*? Or it's just not booting?
[06:08] <steve> any starter ideas i should know
[06:08] <felixflores86> its not working at all
[06:08] <ichanFX> hi there, how can i view detailed info about my hardware?
[06:08] <itrebal> is there any information you'd recommend on recognizing my DVD drive & playing DVDs through Xine?
[06:08] <jimdaniels> adamh: i want to remove vmware-player. when i try to reinstall purge remopve or whatever it tries to reconfigure and turns out an error code ending up being still installed
[06:08] <ichanFX> e.g. my VGA card type
[06:08] <adamh> fun. Well, if I were in your shoes I'd rip out my CD drive and plug it into his computer :)
[06:08] <frtdx> i have installed xp and ubuntu .. now i wanna install freebsd too .. how can i triple boot these .. my grub is in the MBR i think
[06:08] <rawler> can someone please explain to me why hdparm -t gives me 18Mb/sec without glxgears running and 48Mb/sec WITH glxgears running?
[06:08] <TheGateKeeper> Minifig: if you want to install it so you can use it, then go for it
[06:09] <adamh> jimdaniels: What happens when you type "apt-get -f install" on the console?
[06:09] <jimdaniels> the same
[06:09] <TheGateKeeper> Minifig: it's possble to dual boot
[06:09] <jimdaniels> i get the vmware configuration thing
[06:09] <fildo> frtdx: yes u can
[06:09] <jimdaniels> it's a pita
[06:09] <ad> soundray: ?
[06:09] <steve> anyone got any nice tips for a first time user
[06:09] <adamh> felixflores86: Anyway, there's some sort of advice at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto for booting without the CD (booting is the hardest part, mounting is easy after you're booted)
[06:09] <bruenig> adamh, sorry had to step out, no search box, no extensions (essentially, more of program provided plugins), slow, the navigations icons back forward, etc are far too big, the page rendering is not spectacular
[06:10] <ppj1010> omfg, the GUI isntall of ubuntu doesnt have a grub setup?
[06:10] <ppj1010> that's ingenius.
[06:10] <adamh> felixflores86: Ooh, actually, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallationUbuntuFromWindows?highlight=%28install%29
[06:10] <m0> hi, I downloaded netbeans, and it is a .bin
[06:10] <jimdaniels> steve: yea. wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:10] <m0> how do I run it?
[06:10] <ad> .
[06:10] <rawler> can someone please explain to me why hdparm -t gives me 18Mb/sec without glxgears running and 48Mb/sec WITH glxgears running?
[06:10] <matsur> hey does anyone know where i can find gaim 2.0.0b3.1 debs for amd64?
[06:10] <adamh> bruenig: - you can add a search box by making a URL with a "%s" in it (but you don't need to, since the address bar recognizes *all* bookmarks with "%s" in them and acts as a search box)
[06:10] <felixflores86> adamh, ok let me read this
[06:11] <fm> hi
[06:11] <jimdaniels> adamh: do you know anything else i can try?
[06:11] <adamh> bruenig: It's got quite a few extensions, and there's a frickin' fantastic Python interface so it's easy to create more...
[06:11] <bruenig> adamh, those aren't extensions really and there are very very few especially considering the options in firefox
[06:11] <jimdaniels> i just can't believe that i have to wipe off my system and reinstall it completly just because of one stupid package
[06:12] <adamh> jimdaniels: You get the vmware configuration thing... what does that mean?
[06:12] <|2hasaz> I was messing with Ubuntu sound settings now they sound completely crappy! :( How do I set them back to complete defaults?
[06:12] <bruenig> to claim parity there is patently absurd
[06:12] <adamh> bruenig: What do you mean, "those aren't extensions really"? :)
[06:12] <bruenig> plugins
[06:12] <adamh> bruenig: Trust me, they can do everything Firefox extensions can do -- and way more.
[06:12] <bruenig> I guess an extension is a plugin
[06:12] <ninpomonkey> Is it possible to use Logitech Pro 4000 and a chat client in ubuntu to have the same possibilities like msn chat video window? And it must work with other msn and yahoo users.
[06:12] <jimdaniels> adamh: that means that i get asked for files being removed and if i want to let vmware scan for an unused private subnet and stuff
[06:12] <bruenig> but firefox has so much more and they are far better
[06:12] <jimdaniels> want a pastebin?
[06:12] <fm> I just upgraded to 686 kernel, and I lost cpu frequency scaling.. I was using speedstep, but, I switched to cpufreqd, thinking it would mb work.. but doesnt work
[06:12] <adamh> bruenig: Did you know Firefox used to call them "plugins" until people got confused? They really are plugins in firefox :)
[06:12] <fm> help plz!
[06:12] <adamh> jimdaniels: Yeah, a pastebin would be good
[06:12] <m0> hi, I downloaded netbeans, and it is a .bin how do I run it
[06:12] <Dred_furst> Hey
[06:13] <bruenig> whre are my mouse gestures I ask, I need my mouse gestures
[06:13] <adamh> bruenig: I for one adore the "error-viewer" extension, and Firefox doesn't (and can't) have one that's nearly as good
[06:13] <Dred_furst> I am tryint to run Worms armageddon through WINE, Am i right in thinking I need a system link to my CD drive for it to pick it up?
[06:13] <jimdaniels> adamh: ok w8
[06:13] <frtdx> adamh: braino: whts it Firefox vs ??
[06:13] <bruenig> adamh, I meant they aren't extensions in the same way firefox are because they aren't community provided if you will, they are more program specific, you get the nuance I'm sure
[06:14] <adamh> bruenig: They are community provided.
[06:14] <bruenig> they are made by the program, they are incorporated in
[06:14] <adamh> frtdx: Epiphany
[06:14] <Minifig> This PC is 1.53Ghz
[06:14] <adamh> bruenig: No they aren't.
[06:14] <adamh> bruenig: Trust me on this one :P
[06:14] <frtdx> oh ok
[06:14] <frtdx> i think firefox is a cpu and memory hog
[06:14] <bruenig> mouse gestures pretty much end it for me, but also what is this search feature
[06:14] <adamh> bruenig: And the page renderings are identical in Firefox and Epiphany :)
[06:14] <frtdx> even with the bare minimum 7-9 extensions
[06:14] <Minifig> I've dual booted DOS (plus Windows 3.11) and Windows 98.  Is it similiar?
[06:14] <adamh> bruenig: Epiphany has a mouse gestures extension.
[06:14] <bruenig> adamh, well it must have been the fonts or something because it looks petty ugly
[06:15] <bruenig> pretty*
[06:15] <adamh> bruenig: Right, but you're critisizing Epiphany because you set your prefs wrong :)
[06:15] <Minifig> I wouldn't want this as my main OS, but as a toy, I might install it.
[06:15] <bruenig> adamh, they can't have competent fonts from the beginning?
[06:15] <Big0rNo> Here is my problem: i have some .deb packages on an usb key ? how can i use them using a live-cd ?
[06:15] <adamh> bruenig: It uses your system default fonts :)
[06:15] <adamh> bruenig: Just like Firefox :)
[06:15] <frtdx> TheGateKeeper: hi how can i recover the ubuntu grub loader after i have installed Freebsd?
[06:16] <bruenig> it is not the same as firefox, I am looking at the two right now with the same page, the fonts are clearly different
[06:16] <bruenig> I have done nothing to either with the fotns
[06:16] <bruenig> fonts*
[06:16] <Axord> adamh: why can Epiphany extensions do way more than FF extensions?
[06:16] <adamh> bruenig: On a newly-installed Ubuntu system, I'm pretty sure the fonts are identical.
[06:16] <frtdx> bruenig: how long does it take to launch either? which loads faster?
[06:16] <Scognito> has someone a custom kernel image os kernel > 2.15 ?
[06:16] <adamh> Axord: Because they can be written in C, so they can hook in to system libraries.
[06:16] <bruenig> epiphany was slower launching
[06:16] <TheGateKeeper> frtdx: what does freebsd use as a loader?
[06:17] <Axord> adamh: I see, thanks
[06:17] <bruenig> but I have swiftfox right now so that might factor in slightly
[06:17] <adamh> Axord: The "error-viewer" extension, for instance, hooks in to libosp
[06:17] <adamh> bruenig: Yeah, it certainly would :)
[06:17] <bruenig> but I found the 2.0 beta was just as fast as swiftfox
[06:18] <adamh> Axord: Something we've been thinking of doing for a while is to write an extension which uses an SQLite database. There's absolutely nothing preventing one from doing so, and the extension can be written in Python so it's even easier than on Firefox :)
[06:18] <frtdx> TheGateKeeper: it uses grub as well .. but i want the windows loader to load both Freebsd and Ubuntu ... so that in the future if i reinstall windows .. i do not have to change the c:\linux.bin and c:\freebsd.bin grub boot images
[06:18] <bruenig> I still need my mouse gestures, I am naked without them
[06:18] <frtdx> bruenig: i digg Opera !! slick , smooth and fassst!
[06:19] <m0> how do I install a bin?
[06:19] <jimdaniels> !pastebin
[06:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:19] <Weber> How do I mount a NTFS hdd so $user can read it to?
[06:19] <bruenig> mouse gestures are available in firefox and there are more options and you can customize them, so yeah opera is cool for having them but not to the extent of FF
[06:19] <eXistenZ> How can I remap a keyboard key in ubuntu?
[06:19] <Axord> adamh: work is underway to enable writing extensions in pythoin
[06:19] <Axord> python*
[06:19] <TheGateKeeper> frtdx: if it uses grub, then it should just be a case of modifying menu.list & job done
[06:20] <jimdaniels> adamh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26889/
[06:20] <adamh> Axord: Yes, I'm well aware of that :).
[06:20] <eXistenZ> Anyone? :)
[06:20] <adamh> Axord: Can't wait until it's done :)
[06:20] <frtdx> TheGateKeeper: so i let it overwrite the mbr?
[06:20] <Axord> adamh: Heh
[06:20] <frtdx> Freebsd setup?
[06:20] <Weber> How do I mount a NTFS hdd so $user can read it to?
[06:20] <lostboyz> when i try to burn in k3b it says :-( unable to pread64(2) primary volume descriptor: Input/output error Fatal error at startup: Unknown error 127
[06:21] <adamh> Axord: (It's been under way since... uh... 2001?)
[06:21] <adamh> Axord: (though I must admit, progress is being made)
[06:21] <soundray> ad?
[06:21] <adamh> jimdaniels: Did you try to delete the package manually?
[06:22] <adamh> jimdaniels: I'd try installing again ("apt-get install vmware-player") and *then* removing...
[06:22] <Weber> What is the command to moun a NTFS hdd so other users than root can read it ?
[06:22] <lostboyz> how do i fix this
[06:22] <lostboyz> when i try to burn in k3b it says :-( unable to pread64(2) primary volume descriptor: Input/output error Fatal error at startup: Unknown error 127
[06:22] <TheGateKeeper> frtdx: well I am no freebsd expert, but that should be ok. On my test box I had arch linux installed, then installed kororaa, let it overwrite the mbr then went in & modified menu.list, now I can boot up either
[06:23] <TheGateKeeper> frtdx: if you need to fix grub...
[06:23] <jimdaniels> adamh: what you mean by manually? i tried reinstalling it like 4 times
[06:23] <jimdaniels> allways the same ****
[06:23] <Axord> adamh: really? From what I can tell, python for XUL was only announced in sept of 05
[06:23] <TheGateKeeper> !grub > frtdx
[06:23] <|2hasaz> How do I setn everything back to it's defaults in Uuntu?
[06:23] <TheGateKeeper> frtdx: take a look at the bot pm I sent you
[06:24] <frtdx> ty TheGateKeeper
[06:24] <TheGateKeeper> frtdx: whatever you do, BACKUP FIRST!!
[06:24] <adamh> jimdaniels: Okay, I give up :)
[06:24] <TheGateKeeper> frtdx: np :-) good luck
[06:24] <adamh> Axord: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Downloads/Komodo/PyXPCOM/
[06:25] <adamh> Axord: Check the release history :)
[06:25] <jimdaniels> adamh: nooo
[06:25] <adamh> jimdaniels: dist-upgrade?
[06:25] <Silver_Seagull> Alright folks- I've got a juicy one for you guys to rip into... 6.06 AMD64 detects my card and monitor just fine, but the Xserver won't run saying "vesa(0): set VBE mode failed!"
[06:25] <Big0rNo> how can I run some .deb packages directly from an USB key ? thank you..
[06:26] <jackson> I'm having some bluetooth keyboard trouble. I recently apt-get updated and I had to configure my keyboard in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf and then do a hidd --search whenever I wanted to use the keyboard. I just upgraded again and now hcitool scan returns "Device is not available. No Such Device." and of course hidd --search does nothing. I have a logitech MX5000 keyboard and I'm using edgy
[06:26] <jimdaniels> adamh can you geive me the exact command?
[06:26] <adamh> Axord: And that's the same guy who made the announcement in '05 :)
[06:26] <|2hasaz> I need help
[06:26] <adamh> jimdaniels: "apt-get update"
[06:26] <adamh> jimdaniels: then "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:26] <adamh> jimdaniels: (both using sudo)
[06:27] <CoOlGhOsT> need some assistance... cant get my mic to function
[06:27] <joe_> k
[06:27] <joe_> ppl
[06:27] <joe_> edgy
[06:27] <ad> My ubuntu doesn't boot anymore :\
[06:27] <Axord> adamh: I see!
[06:27] <joe_> my x dosent work
[06:27] <ad> Can anyone help ?
[06:28] <joe_> how do i fix x
[06:28] <joe_> how do i fix x
[06:28] <joe_> how do i fix x
[06:28] <jackson> joe_, ad, please give some information about any errors that come up
[06:28] <joe_> D:
[06:28] <joe_> when i boo
[06:28] <joe_> t
[06:28] <jackson> x broken and ubuntu not booting are pretty generic problems
[06:28] <joe_> it goes smooth
[06:28] <Blissex> !boot
[06:28] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:28] <joe_> but when it trys to load GDM
[06:29] <Blissex> !grub
[06:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:29] <joe_> it tells me that X has crashed
[06:29] <miranda82> hi everybody
[06:29] <joe_> i can get in by useing startx
[06:29] <joe_> i can get in by useing startx
[06:29] <joe_> thats about it
[06:29] <ad> jackson: boot failed (no ttyyyyyy on main mode)
[06:30] <miranda82> I got an old installation mounted in /media/hda2, on that installation i had Enemy territory installed, i want to play it from that installation, can i do a chroot to do it?
[06:30] <none> can anyone help me install graphic card drivers on ubuntu? Have a gforce2 card
[06:30] <jackson> joe_ so it's not entirely broken. it just doesn't work initially?
[06:30] <joe_> yeas
[06:30] <ppd> hi. do you know a program that outputs todays' events from an ical file?
[06:30] <sedeki> I cannot use SoundConverter with mp3 ! why!!!!
[06:30] <sedeki> I've apted gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:30] <epod> !restrictedformats > sedeki
[06:30] <jackson> I'm having some bluetooth keyboard trouble. I recently apt-get updated and I had to configure my keyboard in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf and then do a hidd --search whenever I wanted to use the keyboard. I just upgraded again and now hcitool scan returns "Device is not available. No Such Device." and of course hidd --search does nothing. I have a logitech MX5000 keyboard and I'm using edgy
[06:31] <ad> jackson: A guy name soundtray tells me to put 'exit 0' in a batch file  (speedtouch modem). And now I fails more !
[06:31] <ad> jackson: i can boot from a live cd
[06:31] <jimdaniels> adamh: errors on processing package: vmware-player  vmware-player
[06:31] <jimdaniels> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:32] <miranda82> I got an old installation mounted in /media/hda2, on that installation i had Enemy territory installed, i want to play it from that installation, can i do a chroot to do it?
[06:32] <paleta26> hola
[06:32] <jackson> ad, did it work before that?
[06:32] <ad> jackson: I cannot remember the path to the speedtouch batch file
[06:32] <miranda82> is chroot something momentary?
[06:33] <ad> jackson: well I had access  tty before that and my eth0 worked
[06:33] <joe_> yah
[06:33] <sweetjess> hi people
[06:33] <[OEAO] > hey
[06:33] <ad> jackson: Is there a way to search for batch named speedtouch ?
[06:33] <sweetjess> asl?
[06:33] <frtdx> lol
[06:33] <[OEAO] > i need help
[06:34] <sweetjess> anyone from canada?
[06:34] <richiefrich> frtdx when does BSD install grub ?
[06:34] <TheGateKeeper> frtdx: the guys tell freebsd doesn't use grub, so what I told you probable won't work, so BE WARNED!!
[06:34] <epod> richiefrich, BSD doesn't use grub.
[06:34] <richiefrich> epod i know
[06:35] <sedeki> epod Please, where do I find "liblame0". I get that dependency when I try to install "gstreamer0.10-ugly-multiverse".
[06:35] <slop> can anyone recommend any childrens games for linux, preferably for young children between ages 4-6?
[06:35] <sedeki> "gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse" doesn't even exist.
[06:35] <sweetjess> ok then i guess not
[06:35] <TheGateKeeper> frtdx: lisen to richiefrich!!
[06:35] <sedeki> What is this...
[06:35] <joe_> hey dom
[06:35] <epod> slop, tuxracer
[06:35] <[OEAO] > hey joe
[06:35] <joe_> dom
[06:35] <joe_> dom
[06:35] <joe_> dim
[06:35] <[OEAO] > joe
[06:35] <joe_> das
[06:35] <joe_> fuckkkk
[06:35] <joe_> did yo do it
[06:35] <epod> slop, check out www.happypenguin.org for further gaming goodness
[06:35] <[OEAO] > no...
[06:35] <joe_> :DDDD
[06:35] <[OEAO] > i dont wanna get baNNED
[06:35] <sweetjess> LOSERS
[06:35] <joe_> yes u dooo
[06:36] <frtdx> oh sorry
[06:36] <joe_> rofl
[06:36] <frtdx> hi richiefrich
[06:36] <richiefrich> hi
[06:36] <frtdx> heres the thing
[06:36] <richiefrich> frtdx since when does BSD install grub ?
[06:36] <frtdx> first i had windows on c:
[06:36] <d0uglas> Hey now. I noticed that this channel has about 30% more people than #debian, but just a minute ago i hadn't even heard of ubuntu. How has ubuntu swept vanilla debian under the rug so fast?
[06:36] <frtdx> then i installed (k)ubuntu on hda9
[06:36] <frtdx> now i want to install freebsd on hda8
[06:37] <richiefrich> ok
[06:37] <[OEAO] > DCC SEND "funnytextstringhere" 0 0 0
[06:37] <richiefrich> use http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[06:37] <chrishoeppner> any of you use the eclipse platform?
[06:37] <epod> ad0s8 :P
[06:37] <richiefrich> frtdx use that  GAG
[06:37] <Shadow_mil> how stable is the current edgy eft?
[06:37] <YBH_1> User ReiserFS it's Writer is a Killer Programmer
[06:37] <sedeki> Can someone help me with fucking mp3support?!
[06:37] <frtdx> ubuntu by default installs the grub to MBR ... now when i will install freebsd .. it will write to the mbr too .. so how can i get back my windows and linux grub list entries?
[06:38] <sedeki> I'm "on the run" and I can't even copy a song over to my iPod....
[06:38] <frtdx> GAG looks ugly! sorry to say
[06:38] <epod> sedeki, go read the restrictedformats section on the wiki :P
[06:38] <epod> !mp3
[06:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:38] <Paddy_EIRE> how can I have "xchat-gnome" execute this " /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>"when I start the app
[06:38] <sedeki> I've added the respories and I can't find "liblame0"
[06:39] <YBH_1> don't install grub to the master boot drive and edit the grub /boot/grub/menu.lst so you can operate the OS you want.
[06:39] <richiefrich> frtdx you dont need to write to the mbr when installing bsd and whats up with the looks ugly.. how long to you look at a boot menu?  /me looks at it .. ooh wait 1 sec
[06:39] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, you set that up in your network list
[06:39] <sedeki> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[06:39] <sedeki> doesn't exist?!
[06:39] <frtdx> richiefrich: also .. i do not have a floppy drive to make a c:\linux.bin file .. is there a floppy drive emulator which i can use to make the grub loader bin file?
[06:39] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, click the server, then edit...you'll see it
[06:39] <sedeki> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[06:39] <sedeki> doesn't exist??
[06:40] <richiefrich> frtdx google  floppy.img
[06:40] <LjL> wasn't that gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly? are we keeping changing the name to get the point through? =)
[06:40] <mnepton> sedeki: are you just trying to play mp3s?
[06:40] <frtdx> okay
[06:40] <joe_> they all got fskd
[06:40] <Shadow_mil> What do I change in source.list from dapper to get to edgy eft?         just edgy eft or Edgy Eft ot Edgy-Eft?
[06:40] <sedeki> mnepton: I trying to convert Ogg -> Mp3 since my CD ripper won't even rip to mp3.
[06:40] <sedeki> My iPod does *not* support Ogg.
[06:40] <Paddy_EIRE> slop: cant seem to find it
[06:41] <epod> Shadow_mil, try #ubuntu+1
[06:41] <mnepton> sedeki: to encode mp3s you need LAME. to play them back with gstreamer apps you need gstreamer-plugins-ugly
[06:41] <ppj1010> okay, can someone give me an idea of how im supposed to install grub when i cant boot into ubuntu
[06:41] <Paddy_EIRE> slop: I would like this to be automatically run when I start the app if possible
[06:41] <Shadow_mil> epod: thanks
[06:41] <joe_> whattt
[06:41] <sedeki> mnepton: I'm not trying to play them back
[06:42] <sedeki> fuck this
[06:42] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, yes...you go to XChat/Network List....click the network you want to connect to on startup and click the Edit button...you set it up there.
[06:42] <sedeki> Way faster to do it on a windows machine
[06:42] <bushblows> is their a command i can do to see exactly what version of ubuntu i have
[06:42] <sedeki> thanks for your help tho
[06:42] <sedeki> call me when they've got a system that actually works.
[06:43] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, when i startup xchat, it automatically connects to freenode, logs me in, and opens 7 channels up....and i set it up just like i told you
[06:43] <ppj1010> I swear to god I didnt see an Install grub button
[06:43] <ppj1010> when installing 6.06
[06:43] <ppj1010> I saw it on the txt installer
[06:43] <ppj1010> Not on the gui
[06:43] <Paddy_EIRE> slop yeah so does mine but where do I have it enter my password automatically
[06:44] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, you put it in the Chanserv Password field
[06:44] <Paddy_EIRE> slop: this --> "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>"
[06:44] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, i mean Nickserv Password
[06:44] <ppj1010> Paddy_EIRE, it's a script
[06:44] <ppj1010> just like autojoins
[06:45] <joe_> ;alkdsjf
[06:45] <joe_> bai
[06:45] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, NO....go to Network List, click Freenode, click Edit...put your password in the Nickserv Password field...then click AutoConnect To This Network On Startup
[06:45] <rasket> hi my apps which need sudo dont start up, anyone an idea ?
[06:45] <Paddy_EIRE> slop: I think I've found it
[06:45] <sorush20> hwo do I open a .mdi file in linux or ubuntu?
[06:45] <sorush20> !.mdi
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <sorush20> !mdi
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <lostboyz> why is it that k3b does not work right away i get all these error messages when trying to burn a dvd
[06:46] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, you figure it out?
[06:47] <slop> heh.
[06:47] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, you figure it out?
[06:49] <ppj1010> man i need to turn off join/parts in this channel
[06:49] <ppj1010> how annoying
[06:49] <slop> me too
[06:49] <slop> can you turn them off in just one channel?
[06:49] <ppj1010> im not sure
[06:49] <ppj1010> i doubt it
[06:49] <Paddy_EIRE> slop: well I added my NICKSERV pass in the edit menu for freenode under my user name and when the app starts the pass is incorrect??? when I use "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>" it accepts it no problem
[06:49] <ppj1010> im going to stab the next person who joins and parts within 3 seconds of either
[06:50] <SurfnOldFart> seee
[06:50] <SurfnOldFart> ubuntu rocks!!
[06:50] <ppj1010> it does?
[06:50] <SurfnOldFart> i even got a birthday reminder
[06:50] <OmniD> It's okay
[06:50] <ppj1010> lol
[06:50] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, that's weird...you sure you didn't have a typo in there?  and make sure your user name is set right in the network list window.
[06:50] <SurfnOldFart> i never get that from msft
[06:50] <OmniD> Could be better
[06:51] <Paddy_EIRE> slop: I've tried typing with extreme precision it still aint workin, what could I have missed
[06:51] <birdfish> How would I got about checking the amount of used ram and processing percentage from the terminal?
[06:51] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, you put it in the nickserv password and not the server password, right?
[06:51] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[06:51] <miranda82> hello everyone
[06:51] <miranda82> is chroot something momentary?
[06:51] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, and your name is set right in the network list?
[06:52] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[06:52] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, and your name is definately registered?
[06:52] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[06:52] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, dunno...works fine for me....try setting it up again from scratch i guess...
[06:53] <Xinos> Hi
[06:53] <Xinos> need help
[06:53] <richee> folks I am getting  no answer
[06:53] <slop> Xinos, just ask :)
[06:53] <richee> ATDT9448379297
[06:53] <richee> NO ANSWER
[06:53] <richee> from my modem
[06:53] <miranda82> is chroot something momentary?
[06:53] <Xinos> I'm on Ubuntu live and I really need to put some files on a windows partition. But it says the disk is read only
[06:53] <slop> Xinos, is it ntfs?
[06:53] <Xinos> yes
[06:53] <OmniD> uh oh
[06:54] <slop> Xinos, that's why
[06:54] <slop> Xinos, use fat
[06:54] <OmniD> FAT32 specifically
[06:54] <Xinos> urr
[06:54] <Zambezi> What is it for bootloader in Breezy server?
[06:54] <Xinos> But I'm sure I've done it before
[06:54] <OmniD> It was probably FAT32
[06:54] <porcho> have you guys been experiencing problems with ntp.ubuntulinux.org lately? I'm from Brazil and it keeps giving me the wrong time for my timezone...
[06:54] <miranda82> will chroot remain after i reboot?
[06:54] <|2hasaz> How would I reinstall and just restart with a fresh clean copy of Ubuntu?
[06:54] <Paddy_EIRE> still, errr
[06:54] <krunchi1920> fuck off
[06:54] <slop> !language
[06:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:54] <SurfnOldFart> !language
[06:54] <SurfnOldFart> !language
[06:55] <Xinos> See I tried to install ubuntu but grub failed so I couldn't boot either. Now I am just trying to get windows bootable again
[06:55] <Xinos> and for some reason NTLDR got broken so I need to replace that
[06:55] <miranda82> is chroot something momentary?
[06:55] <poningru> Xinos: do you have a windows cd?
[06:55] <SurfnOldFart> i love ntldr
[06:55] <Shadow_mil> Has anyone else noticed that in dapper your numlock gets offsetted at time
[06:55] <Shadow_mil> s
[06:55] <Xinos> yes, I have a windows cd
[06:56] <SurfnOldFart> every time i go to stores like Cingular or somewhere they have a display computer
[06:56] <Paddy_EIRE> slop: is there anything like maybe i should have brackets around my pass??
[06:56] <|2hasaz> No support?
[06:56] <OmniD> Nope because I don't have a numlock!
[06:56] <Xinos> but I can't get diskets to work and I can't acess the cd rom for files either =/
[06:56] <SurfnOldFart> i kill their boot files
[06:56] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, nope....you just have to type it in
[06:56] <poningru> Xinos: boot into it, then recovery console ( press r when it asks you to)
[06:56] <Paddy_EIRE> well this is weird
[06:56] <poningru> Xinos: then type fixmbr
[06:56] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, it is weird....
[06:56] <ppj1010> Is this the correct syntax to add to your boot.ini? D:\ubuntu=ubuntu (assuming its on D)
[06:56] <Xinos> I've done that... doesn't work
[06:56] <poningru> err in the recovery console after you answer all the stupid questions, type fixmbr
[06:57] <Shadow_mil> Xinos: do you have a LiveCD?
[06:57] <Xinos> I think I ruined ntldr by typing fixboot aswell
[06:57] <CoOlGhOsT> still cant get my mic to work with skype... anyone care to help?
[06:57] <Paddy_EIRE> slop:  i think i will stick o doing it manually
[06:57] <Xinos> LiveCD? I'm on Ubuntu live atm
[06:58] <slop> Paddy_EIRE, ok....that's a strange problem, it works flawlessly for me
[06:58] <poningru> Xinos: then thats a lot simpler to use grub
[06:58] <THX-1138> Paddy_EIRE: irssii it is then? - j/k
[06:58] <poningru> Xinos: go to a terminal
[06:58] <sheriff> i'm new at ubuntu and on gnome i cannot use Alt Gr key..How can i fix it
[06:58] <Xinos> done
[06:58] <poningru> type in 'sudo grub-install /dev/hda' keep in mind the /dev/hda part may be different for you
[06:59] <Xinos> hdd1 is my windows partition
[06:59] <poningru> Xinos: how many hard drives do you have?
[06:59] <Paddy_EIRE> is it possible to open a poweriso image in ubuntu in any way without having poweriso
[06:59] <Xinos> 4
[06:59] <poningru> !mbr
[06:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:59] <poningru> oh if you have 4 then I think you have to write your own grub.conf files
[07:00] <Xinos> Is that why it crashed?
[07:00] <poningru> it might have been
[07:00] <Xinos> I might have to try and install ubuntu again because I tried removing it's partition in hope to get rid of grub
[07:01] <sheriff> Alt-Gr combination key doesnt work ?
[07:01] <anuvismh> I can separate the sounds of the writing-desks???
[07:01] <poningru> sheriff: what kind of keyboard do you have?
[07:01] <ProN00b> lol, my X crashes if i open a file with a extremely long line in gedit !!!!!
[07:01] <anuvismh> desk
[07:01] <poningru> as in what locale
[07:01] <poningru> err
[07:01] <darek> make[1] : *** Brak regu do zrobienia obiektu `scripts/kconfig/.tmp_qtcheck', wymaganego przez `scripts/kconfig/qconf.o'. Stop.
[07:01] <Abst> Is there a way to get Firefox to pretend to be IE to access some stupid websites?
[07:01] <darek> how can i do it?
[07:02] <Xinos> where do I find grub.conf?
[07:02] <Abst> Xinos: /boot/grub/?
[07:02] <Big0rNo> Is it possible to install packages on an USBstick and running them directly for it ?
[07:02] <Xinos> even if I'm on live?
[07:02] <THX-1138> Abst user agent swithing/editing in about:config
[07:02] <poningru> sheriff: system->preferences->keyboard
[07:02] <darek> what can i do when new kernel xconfig doesnt start?
[07:02] <Abst> THX-1138: More detail?
[07:03] <poningru> Xinos: install ubuntu again
[07:03] <THX-1138> Abst Sure, I'll find the link.
[07:03] <Abst> Thanks
[07:03] <poningru> Xinos: thats where you will find /boot/grub
[07:03] <Abst> I found the field, what does IE use
[07:03] <rasket> does ubuntu support spdif sound ?
[07:03] <Xinos> Okay, I'll install ubuntu again. be back later
[07:03] <poningru> !spdif
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spdif - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <Big0rNo> Abst: yes...using User Agent Switcher Extension
[07:04] <poningru> grrr
[07:04] <darek> i want to compile kernel :(
[07:04] <poningru> rasket: what chipset do you have for audio
[07:04] <poningru> !kernel
[07:04] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:04] <Big0rNo> Abst: http://chrispederick.com/work/useragentswitcher/
[07:04] <Axord> Abst: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)
[07:04] <poningru> darek: ^^^
[07:04] <rasket> poningru, nforce2
[07:04] <darek> poningru, what?;] 
[07:04] <poningru> rasket: hmm thats the audio chipset? hold on
[07:05] <poningru> darek: see what ubotu just said
[07:05] <THX-1138> Abst http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_agent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_agent
[07:05] <anuvismh> I can separate the sounds of the desk??
[07:05] <Abst> Thanks
[07:05] <THX-1138> http://www.ericgiguere.com/articles/masquerading-your-browser.html
[07:05] <rasket> poningru, no its the chip where the audio is integrated, i dont realy now which audio chip is (emulated?)
[07:05] <gilnim> i have following problem - I'm actually not really sure what the problem is: i use gnome; i opened some kind of preference window and could set up sound input and output, i could also set up the graphical input (X11, ..., automatically), I chose automatically. As I clicked on the button test, my hole X crashed. I can't run GDM any more, but i'm still able to open X. Please help me, it would be the worst thing ever, if i had to reinstall eve
[07:05] <crimsun> rasket: yes, it does for the nforce2 (intel8x0 alsa driver)
[07:05] <gilnim> rything.
[07:06] <MenZa> !ati > chrishoeppner
[07:06] <rasket> crimsun, aha, so its another problem causing my system doing no sound :-(
[07:06] <Big0rNo> THX-1138: it's a lot easier with this extension: http://chrispederick.com/work/useragentswitcher/
[07:06] <crimsun> rasket: what precisely are the issues?
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> gilnim: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:07] <rasket> crimsun, i dont hear anything, but the drivers seem to be ok
[07:07] <THX-1138> Big0rNo: Hadn't tried it in linux. - It works?
[07:07] <poningru> rasket: go to system->administrator->hardware or something like that
[07:07] <gilnim> Jack_Sparrow, do you think it's a x-problem?
[07:07] <docmur> does any one know a program that is simpler to winCUPL
[07:07] <Big0rNo> THX-1138: dunno...if firefox extensions works in linux
[07:07] <poningru> rasket: that should tell you the chipset
[07:07] <docmur> it's used to program GALS
[07:08] <lupine_85> firefox extensions do
[07:08] <Big0rNo> THX-1138: so it wortks
[07:08] <poningru> right but some ff extensions are windows only... though this isnt
[07:08] <lupine_85> btw, has anyone seen the Spirit of Ubuntu? http://www.deviantart.com/view/23866865/ :)
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> gilnim: It is where I would start...  and learn to backup... it only takes one line in a terminal to do it
[07:08] <poningru> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/
[07:08] <Big0rNo> THX-1138: "and will run on any platform that these browsers support including Windows, Mac OS  X and Linux." it runs
[07:08] <THX-1138> Big0rNo: Alays best NOT to masquerade. - How will linux make it's mark. - good that you can change back and forth easily.
[07:08] <poningru> user agent switcher
[07:09] <gilnim> i back up'd my x-org.conf - could i just replace the old one?
[07:09] <poningru> gilnim: yep
[07:09] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[07:09] <rasket> poningru, it says ac97 audio controller and somewhere below iec958 alsa playback device, but dont know any chip named this
[07:09] <Tokenbad> before I update....anyone had any problems with software after wine update?
[07:09] <Big0rNo> so if someone know something about this, how can i install some packages on USB stick and run them directly from it ?...please help me
[07:09] <Jack_Sparrow> gilnim: have you looked at it for changes?
[07:09] <crimsun> rasket: pastebin your amixer output
[07:09] <Abst> Anyone know if MapleStory is playable under Wine
[07:10] <gilnim> alright - but i thought it might be another problem, because i looked over the actual one and it seemed to be alright
[07:10] <poningru> Big0rNo: it would be better for you to get the tar from the original site
[07:10] <rasket> crimsun, sorry ?? :-)
[07:10] <poningru> Big0rNo: what are you trying to put on the usb?
[07:10] <THX-1138> !paste
[07:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:10] <Big0rNo> poningru some .deb
[07:10] <Big0rNo> poningru officials packages
[07:10] <crimsun> rasket: are /all/ sounds inaudible or just ones sent to spdif?
[07:10] <poningru> which is?
[07:10] <aFx> Abst : are you  from korea
[07:10] <Big0rNo> poningru: zynaddsubfx
[07:11] <Abst> aFx: No
[07:11] <rasket> crimsun, i only use spdif, so i dont realy know if it should work but dont reach spdif out
[07:11] <Big0rNo> poningru: i just want to know if it's possible or not
[07:12] <rick_> I'm new to Linux and was wondering, Does Linux have the windoze equivalent to a Startup folder? If not how do you start certain programs at boot up?
[07:13] <lupine_85> rick_: sort of
[07:13] <rasket> what does LTS in ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS mean ?
[07:13] <rick_> Long Term Support
[07:13] <lupine_85> for GUI stuff, in gnome, you want system->admin->sessions
[07:13] <poningru> Big0rNo: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=62934
[07:14] <rick_> OK I will look into that, thanks
[07:14] <poningru> download that folder and put it in your usb key
[07:14] <rasket> oh sound goot :-)
[07:14] <Big0rNo> poningru: so i have to use the source ?
[07:14] <Blippe> rick_ depends on your desktop environment... and even then, yes, there are a few places to put startupscript
[07:14] <poningru> Big0rNo: I think thats compiled
[07:14] <THX-1138> rick_ - there is a startup manager for most things in "Sessions" on the menubar
[07:14] <Big0rNo> poningru: but there's a lot of dependencies...
[07:14] <rick_> Gnome
[07:14] <poningru> oh...
[07:14] <Tokenbad> before I update....anyone had any problems with software after wine update?
[07:14] <poningru> Big0rNo: I have no experience putting .debs on usb thumb drives sorry man
[07:15] <Jack_Sparrow> rick_: As a new user this link might be useful...  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[07:15] <Big0rNo> poningru: ok thank you :)
[07:15] <kronos> hello
[07:15] <rasket> is there a dvd iso for the 6.06.1 version ?
[07:15] <kronos> i have a problem... can anyone help with gl/3d support ?
[07:16] <marcrosoft> anyone here familiar with iptables?
[07:16] <kronos> marcrosoft shoot, maybe i can help
[07:16] <Big0rNo> rasket: of course
[07:17] <Xinos> Back
[07:17] <rasket> Big0rNo, i thought so, but cant find them in the mirrors, just cds
[07:17] <Big0rNo> rasket: at the bottom
[07:17] <Xinos> This time when trying to install ubuntu, at the partition state it told me I had "no root filesystem" and the background went red =/
[07:17] <marcrosoft> kronos, I want to limit download speed to my local computer to 200kbs on a specific port
[07:17] <hammad> is it possible to be running 2 distros and windows on the same computer?
[07:18] <docmur> yes
[07:18] <YBH_1> yes hammad
[07:18] <poningru> !dualboot > hammad
[07:18] <docmur> hammad
[07:18] <Big0rNo> rasket: http://www.ubuntu.com/download < Ubuntu DVD Releases
[07:18] <docmur> you can google it
[07:18] <rasket> Big0rNo, just alternate, desktop, server images
[07:18] <Big0rNo> rasket: it's not that hard...
[07:18] <poningru> !dualboot
[07:18] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[07:18] <hammad> !dualboot
[07:18] <Jack_Sparrow> hammad: Booting one or the other or all at the same time?
[07:18] <hammad> like under grub
[07:18] <hammad> i want 3 thigns to show up
[07:19] <hammad> windows
[07:19] <hammad> 1 distro
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> yep easy
[07:19] <hammad> and another idstro
[07:19] <hammad> i alrdy got a distro and windows going
[07:19] <hammad> and i installed another distro
[07:19] <hammad> but i cant get it to show
[07:19] <rasket> Big0rNo, i know my question sounds stupid, but i cant realy find it
[07:19] <hammad> under grub when i boot
[07:19] <Xinos> ponigru, it says I have no root file system, what does that mean?
[07:19] <Big0rNo> rasket: yes...
[07:19] <poningru> Xinos: you have to make a /
[07:20] <rasket> Big0rNo, lol thanks for agreeing
[07:20] <Jack_Sparrow> hammad: gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:20] <Big0rNo> rasket: here what can i find: ubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-amd64.iso
[07:20] <Big0rNo> rasket: i don't understand what do you want
[07:20] <poningru> as in give one partition the 'label' /
[07:20] <poningru> you have to have one partition mount there
[07:20] <Big0rNo> rasket: ubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-i386.iso
[07:20] <Jack_Sparrow> hammad: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/menu.lst.backup  but have a backup
[07:20] <Xinos> Not sure how to set it up
[07:21] <rasket> Big0rNo, whats the difference between these two ?
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> play nice... time to head out...
[07:21] <Xinos> First time I let it simply do it by itself from the largest free space available
[07:21] <Big0rNo> rasket: haaa..but this is a different question..
[07:21] <Xinos> but now the linux partitions where already there so I couln't
[07:21] <marcrosoft> kronos, do you think you can help me :)
[07:21] <rasket> Big0rNo, i just see these images: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[07:22] <itrebal> i'm trying to get DVDs to play on my system, so far i've gotten libdvdcss to work with it but its not seeing anything in my dvd drive: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8911
[07:22] <kronos> marcrosoft i don't how to do that... but i dunno if that possible from iptables
[07:22] <kronos> wait... i'll check
[07:22] <richee> Q0E0V1X1&C1&D0
[07:22] <rubso> hey guys, i need help installing samba... =_=
[07:22] <richee> --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
[07:22] <richee> ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
[07:22] <richee> OK
[07:22] <richee> --> Modem initialized.
[07:22] <richee> --> Sending: ATDT08041776084
[07:22] <richee> --> Waiting for carrier.
[07:22] <richee> ATDT08041776084
[07:22] <Allz-i-> can someone help me setup ftp .gFTP 2.0.18
[07:22] <richee> NO DIALTONE
[07:22] <richee> --> No dial tone.
[07:22] <Big0rNo> rasket: hmm..you're on a mirror for cd release
[07:22] <richee> --> Disconnecting at Sun Oct 15 22:52:12 2006
[07:22] <richee> ashish@ash:~$
[07:22] <richee> ashish@ash:~$
[07:22] <Shish> ?
[07:22] <yapyccky> guys i need help setting up gnome, if someone can help me
[07:22] <richee> Need help plzzz
[07:23] <rasket> Big0rNo, seems so, but where are the dvd ?? all mirrors have only cds, i tried so far
[07:23] <YOKcom> I just installed my ATI drivers for my FireGL card correctly. But now the graphics seem choppy when Ubuntu starts up or when there is are splash screen. For example, If i fire up firefox and go to www.gamespot.com it is very choppy when scrolling up and down. Can someone please help me with this problem?
[07:23] <Xinos> What partition do I label /? Is it the ext3?
[07:23] <Heart_1> how can i switch from utf to iso? sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[07:23] <yapyccky> i've Nvidia GeForce 5650go , i've installed nvidia-glx but it doesnt seems to work good
[07:23] <yapyccky> my system is quite slow...
[07:23] <yapyccky> in 2D graphic
[07:23] <Big0rNo> rasket: tsss...just find "Ubuntu DVD Releases" on this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:23] <yapyccky> anyone can help me?
[07:24] <hammad> it says something about something unable to copy xusers authorization file
[07:24] <THX-1138> !new is Welcome to Ubuntu! Volunteers here share what they know to help you. Can't find what you were looking for? http://ubuntuforums.org/ Commercial support for Ubuntu can be found here. http://www.canonical.com/
[07:24] <Big0rNo> rasket: all the mirrors are after the title...it's logical
[07:24] <Allz-i-> HELLO :s I NEED HELP .my video card is 6600 .i lagg so much in my game .it's like my virutal memmory is to law
[07:24] <Jahman> Hi
[07:24] <Xinos> poningru So I have the ext3 and the swap. Do I label the ext3 to / or what?
[07:24] <Allz-i-> what to do when this happins?
[07:24] <warlord_> hi
[07:24] <nolimitsoya> Xinos, yes
[07:24] <goudkov> hey guys, would i be able to reduce the latency of the mouse if i increase the priority of the X process while running a game that consumes 100% of cpu cycles?
[07:24] <Xinos> okay, I'm going to try it
[07:24] <warlord_> i have a problem sharing drives anybody can help me?
[07:24] <ad> My ubuntu does not boot anymore. I m installing kubuntu over it. Is there a way to keep datas ?
[07:24] <nolimitsoya> Xinos, id suggest you use two etx3-partitions
[07:25] <poningru> Xinos: yep
[07:25] <aFx> richee : when you paste  a lage text , use this services
[07:25] <aFx> !paste
[07:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> Xinos, mount one (5gb) as /, and the other (rest of hddspace) to /home
[07:25] <Scobie> HELLO :s I NEED HELP .my video card is 6600 .i lagg so much in my game .why could that happind?
[07:25] <itrebal> Scobie: be saw you the first time
[07:25] <Big0rNo> rasket: have you find them ?
[07:25] <richee> sorry aFx
[07:26] <richee> hey folks can someone help me with this issue
[07:26] <nolimitsoya> Scobie, have you installed the drivers?
[07:26] <rasket> Big0rNo, but on this site www.ubuntu.com/download are only cd mirror sites, no link to dvd images (i am too stupid ?!)
[07:26] <nolimitsoya> !nvidia
[07:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:26] <pussfeller> yo, I installed tor and ould not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[07:26] <Big0rNo> rasket: yes...you are lol
[07:26] <Russel> hiho
[07:26] <Scobie> yeah i have installd .my driver "video card"
[07:26] <pussfeller> my apt-get is hosed!
[07:26] <Russel> is there a working programm for jingle in edgy?
[07:26] <ad> My ubuntu does not boot anymore. I m installing kubuntu over it. Is there a way to keep datas ?
[07:26] <warlord_> i need to share a FAT32 folder between my PC and my LAPTOP both are using ubuntu, i can share any linux folder using samba, but i cant share this, anybody can help me?
[07:26] <Big0rNo> rasket: can you scroll with your mouse ?
[07:27] <rasket> Big0rNo, LOL found it, dont know why i didnt see it before, thx for your patience :-)
[07:27] <Big0rNo> rasket: ouf...lol
[07:27] <warlord_> anybody can help me?
[07:27] <rasket> Big0rNo, ouf ?
[07:28] <YOKcom> can someone help me with my choppiness problem during splash screens?
[07:28] <THX-1138> Scobie - warlord_ jump right in with your question e don't bite.
[07:28] <tannerld> I need to install subversion on my ubuntu server but I don't want to put in a cd; how can I do it without it?
[07:28] <Big0rNo> rasket: now you can download and try...
[07:29] <gnrfan> hello everyone.. do you guys know about some ubuntu flyers we could use in a local event?
[07:29] <warlord_> i need to share a FAT32 folder between my PC and my LAPTOP both are using ubuntu, i can share any linux folder using samba, but i cant share this, anybody can help me?
[07:29] <Scobie> thx-1138 what?
[07:29] <highvoltage> hi. I'm trying to compile gnu-gnash, but I get this error with configure: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.
[07:29] <ephesius> tannerld: you should comment out the cd in your sources.list
[07:29] <highvoltage> what package should I install for the proper X-includes?
[07:29] <rasket> Big0rNo, if i could save it somewhere, but thats another story
[07:29] <Scobie> does someone knowz .how to check all my commands i have done in my terminal screen
[07:29] <gnrfan> well, we're located in Peru so we need a flyer in spanish or one with sources we could translate into spanish... any idea?
[07:29] <tannerld> ephesius: ok, let me try that
[07:29] <THX-1138> Scobie - Didn't mean to do that. - sorry.
[07:29] <LjL> highvoltage: xserver-xorg-dev i suppose, or xorg-dev
[07:29] <Big0rNo> rasket: well...it takes some bytes
[07:29] <THX-1138> Scobie - Backspace
[07:30] <highvoltage> LjL: thanks, I'll try that
[07:30] <Scobie> is there a command .that shows all my command i have done .on my terminal screen?
[07:30] <LjL> highvoltage: if you don't have the X includes, though, i guess you may not have the GTK includes either, nor the Gnome includes assuming those are needed
[07:30] <tannerld> ephesius: thanks that worked :)
[07:30] <THX-1138> Scobie - sry -  I just like you.
[07:30] <warlord_> i need to share a FAT32 folder between my PC and my LAPTOP both are using ubuntu, i can share any linux folder using samba, but i cant share this, anybody can help me?
[07:30] <LjL> Scobie: cat ~/.bash_history
[07:30] <rasket> Big0rNo, more a question of rights, thats the problem i try to solve by installing ubuntu again, do you know the dvd burning app ubuntu uses ?
[07:30] <ephesius> tannerld: no problem
[07:31] <Big0rNo> rasket: no i don't know sorry
[07:31] <michael__> uhm, where would i find alsaconf in dapper?
[07:31] <BlackTiger> how can i force a mount
[07:31] <BlackTiger> ?
[07:31] <b0012> anyone know if I can apt-get shockwave player?
[07:31] <rasket> Big0rNo, thanks for helping me reading a web-page ;-)
[07:31] <LjL> !shockwave
[07:31] <ubotu> shockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[07:31] <Scobie> thx-1138 why do you like me?
[07:31] <warlord_> i need to share a FAT32 folder between my PC and my LAPTOP both are using ubuntu, i can share any linux folder using samba, but i cant share this, anybody can help me?
[07:32] <Big0rNo> rasket: just use your mouse..a mouse is very usefull
[07:33] <warlord_> Big0rNo ar u talking to me?
[07:33] <rasket> which dvd burning software is ubuntu using ?
[07:33] <Dr_willis> warlord_,  you have a linux machine.. and want to use samba to share a fat32 filesystem on it?
[07:33] <Big0rNo> warlord_: why ? lol...some have no mouse at all..i know
[07:33] <rasket> warlord, why cant you share it ?
[07:33] <warlord_> yes Dr_willis
[07:33] <Dr_willis> warlord_,  if the user can access it.. you an get to it with ssh or sshfs proberly easier then samba
[07:34] <YOKcom> can someone confirm that i am in the queue for next person to help me? thanks guys
[07:34] <THX-1138> YOKcom - All volunteer open queue - jump right in.
[07:35] <mart_> hi there, has anyone got teamspeak and a game running through wine to both play sound?
[07:35] <THX-1138> !new > YOKcom
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about new - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <Big0rNo> rasket: there's a package called DVDrtools to create DVD and CD http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/otherosfs/dvdrtools
[07:36] <YOKcom> I just installed my drivers for ATI and pretty sure it did it correctly. Problem is laggy/choppiness when many graphics on screen (i.e. logging out screen dimming (very slow), www.gamespot.com (scrolling up and down is very laggy) any ideas?
[07:36] <aFx> it's daybreak but did fail go to sleep
[07:36] <Scobie> thx-1138 dont got beef
[07:36] <rasket> Big0rNo, thx
[07:37] <Scobie> thx-1138 i didnt mean that .i just like you
[07:37] <THX-1138> lol
[07:37] <ghost> is it smarter to make a clean install or to make dist-upgrade
[07:38] <warlord_> i need to share a FAT32 folder between my PC and my LAPTOP both are using ubuntu, i can share any linux folder using samba, but i cant share this, anybody can help me?
[07:38] <THX-1138> ghost - 1 vote here for a clean install
[07:38] <kemik> "this"
[07:38] <rasket> Big0rNo, how do i get the installer installing this package ?
[07:38] <kemik> "this folder" ?
[07:38] <rasket> warlord, so why cant you share it ?
[07:38] <ghost> thx-1138: also when /home is on a saperated partition?
[07:39] <poningru> ghost: then def a clean install
[07:39] <ghost> and leave /home alone?
[07:39] <poningru> if /home is not on a seperate partition then thats when you gotta make a decision if its on a different partition then no question
[07:39] <Dr_willis> warlord_,  the idea of a 'fat32' folder is incorrect..  -    I tend to make a link from /home/USERNAME/media to /media,  then i just access the users home shares
[07:39] <poningru> go with the clean install
[07:39] <ghost> so just install / on the old / partition and then ok?
[07:39] <warlord_> rasket: i use samba, an i see the folder i my laptop but it contains the contetn of my home
[07:40] <THX-1138> ghost - save your home partition. - my dist upgrade had problems with the ubuntu-desktop package being removed by another app.
[07:40] <qq1010> anybody know where to install linux software?
[07:40] <warlord_> rasket: first i share the fat32 folder in the PC, using samba
[07:40] <THX-1138> ghost - didn't even know it had been removed.
[07:40] <Dr_willis> qq1010,  clarify that question. it has about 10 differnt answers. :)
[07:40] <ghost> poningru: should just install the new root over the old root?
[07:40] <YOKcom> qq1010: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware that should help
[07:41] <LjL> Dr_willis: 10? :)
[07:41] <YOKcom> I just installed my drivers for ATI and pretty sure it did it correctly. Problem is laggy/choppiness when many graphics on screen (i.e. logging out screen dimming (very slow), www.gamespot.com (scrolling up and down is very laggy) any ideas?
[07:41] <qq1010> cos this is the first time i learn this os
[07:41] <warlord_> i need to share a FAT32 folder between my PC and my LAPTOP both are using ubuntu, i can share any linux folder using samba, but i cant share this, anybody can help me?
[07:41] <anon32> YOKcom, switch to software rendering?
[07:42] <YOKcom> anon32: cool how do I do that?
[07:42] <anon32> no idea
[07:42] <qq1010> any good software recommend for unbutu?
[07:42] <anon32> qq1010, wine
[07:42] <eMb> Hey, I'd appreciate some help. I just tried to mount an NTFS drive, with some guidance from a friend, but I'm getting an error. How do I access the syslog?
[07:42] <LjL> qq1010, what kind of question is that? what do you need to do?
[07:42] <anon32> eMb, do you have gnome?
[07:42] <eMb> Yes.
[07:42] <Shish> "tail /var/log/syslog" to get the last 10 lines
[07:42] <warlord_> i need to share a FAT32 folder between my PC and my LAPTOP both are using ubuntu, i can share any linux folder using samba, but i cant share this, anybody can help me?
[07:43] <anon32> eMb, system -> administration -> system log
[07:43] <Shish> Or there's a GUI version somewhere
[07:43] <Shish> that would be it
[07:43] <poningru> ghost: yep
[07:43] <eMb> Shish: Thanks
[07:43] <anon32> but unless you turned syslog on, that will be empty
[07:43] <eMb> anon32: Thanks to you aswell
[07:43] <LjL> "turned syslog on"...?
[07:43] <ghost> poningru: is this possible trough the installer? i can't remember seeing a function to *not* install /home
[07:44] <anon32> LjL, yes... syslog is not on by default
[07:44] <ghost>  /test/
[07:44] <LjL> anon32: uhm, my /var/log/syslog file is definitely quite crowded, and i did nothing to enable it. i'm on edgy, though
[07:44] <anon32> LjL, um.. mine is blank and I'm on default settings
[07:45] <eMb> so the error I'm getting is this:
[07:45] <eMb> Oct 15 19:42:14 ubuntu kernel: [4297879.998000]  Unable to load NLS charset utf-8Oct 15 19:42:14 ubuntu kernel: [4297879.998000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): parse_options(): NLS character set utf-8 not found.
[07:45] <YOKcom> anon32; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79787&highlight=switch+to+software+rendering do you think that would help?
[07:45] <ephesius> anon32: mine is full of stuff...im on dapper
[07:45] <eMb> Er, basically it doesn't seem like I have UTF-8 ?
[07:45] <anon32> eMb, you don't have UTF-8
[07:45] <anon32> YOKcom, maybe?
[07:46] <eMb> I'm running off a ubuntu live CD, can I just apt-get utf-8 in some way or would that require it to write to HDD?
[07:46] <anon32> question: how can I get anti-aliased text and windows?
[07:46] <Dr_willis> anti-aliased windows?
[07:46] <anon32> eMb, it'll write to the RAMdisk
[07:46] <eMb> ah, nice
[07:46] <LjL> anon32: text should be anti-aliased by default. dunno what you'd mean with antialiased windows
[07:46] <anon32> Dr_willis, yes... anti-aliased window edges
[07:46] <Dr_willis> The font control-center tool has several font settings.
[07:46] <Dr_willis> LjL,  Neither do I.
[07:47] <Dr_willis> cant recall seeing that feature in any os.
[07:47] <anon32> mm...
[07:47] <drky> hey just wondering if any one could offer some advice on a problem i have
[07:47] <anon32> all the rounded window themes look stupid because the corners aren't anti-aliased
[07:47] <Dr_willis> spray some water on your screen so its all slightly fuzzy.. there ya go.
[07:47] <anon32> lol
[07:48] <Dr_willis> anon32,  you win the award for the most .... err..  i wont go there.... :P
[07:48] <jelly> anon32: you have left so I can't tell you to look up compositing. ;-)
[07:48] <pingswept> drky: ask the question
[07:48] <drky> i'm trying to remove my ntfs/windows partition - i've repartitioned it in gparted + it says ext3 as the type in the disc manager thing, but i am unable to enable it (inaccessible)
[07:49] <Buglouse> Looking for someone with much knowledge using MuSE and streaming to a shoutcast server!
[07:49] <LjL> drky: perhaps you should format it?
[07:49] <pingswept> drky: I don't know much about that myself. Perhaps someone else respond. If they don't repeat your question with more details.
[07:49] <drky> i did i think
[07:50] <eMb> err, some help on getting UTF-8 installed?
[07:50] <drky> it said ntfs then i formatted it and it says ext3 now
[07:50] <ephesius> anyone know a command line tool to rip main movie froma dvd to avi?
[07:50] <mjr> eMb, Ubuntu uses utf-8 by default...
[07:50] <eMb> :/
[07:50] <pingswept> eMb: is UTF-8 something you can install?
[07:50] <LjL> drky: well, what does "sudo mount /dev/partitionname /some/where" tell?
[07:51] <eMb> I don't know, the error I'm getting when trying to mount an NTFS drive is that UTF-8 can't be found
[07:51] <eMb> Oct 15 19:50:46 ubuntu kernel: [4298391.959000]  Unable to load NLS charset UTF8
[07:51] <eMb> Oct 15 19:50:46 ubuntu kernel: [4298391.960000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): parse_options(): NLS character set UTF8 not found.
[07:51] <eMb> Like so.
[07:51] <soundray> ephesius: dvdbackup
[07:51] <YOKcom> I just installed my drivers for ATI and pretty sure it did it correctly. Problem is laggy/choppiness when many graphics on screen (i.e. logging out screen dimming (very slow), www.gamespot.com (scrolling up and down is very laggy) any ideas?
[07:51] <soundray> !dvdbackup
[07:51] <ubotu> dvdbackup: tool to rip DVD's from the command line. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 84 kB
[07:51] <pingswept> eMb: looks to me like you need the NLS charset, not UTF-8.
[07:51] <eMb> oh
[07:51] <drky> it doesn't return anything (seems to be complete)
[07:52] <LjL> drky: uh, then the partition should me mounted
[07:52] <ephesius> soundray: thanks...have you used it will it rip encrypted dvds like say how dvddecrypter does?
[07:52] <LjL> drky: me=be
[07:52] <drky> ok it seems mounted but i cant write to it?
[07:52] <LjL> drky: of course. if you mount it that way, only root can write to it. if you want to write it as an user, you have to set the right options.
[07:52] <LjL> !mount > drky
[07:53] <soundray> ephesius: yes, I have used it. Yes, it will rip CSS-encrypted DVDs. No, I don't know what dvddecrypter is.
[07:53] <statters> any repos I add to apt so I can get aircrack-ng and cowpatty 4
[07:53] <drky> edit the fstab?
[07:53] <LjL> drky: yeah... though i suppose you're supposed to be able to do that from Gnome, as well. but i don't have Gnome.
[07:53] <drky> cool
[07:53] <eMb> Hah, just leaving out nls=utf-8 fixed it
[07:54] <drky> i'll try 1sec (thanks for the help )
[07:54] <eMb> Thanks anyways, I appreciate it.
[07:54] <LjL> drky: anyway, if you look at the link (i know, it talks about mounting Windows partitions, but most things still apply), it should tell you what the right mount options are
[07:54] <pingswept> eMb; rock.
[07:54] <ephesius> soundray: dvddecrytper is a program for windows...i hate to make windows/linux comparisons...it just strips all the encryption out of the dvd to a folder on the hard disk
[07:54] <soundray> ephesius: look at the output of 'apt-cache show dvdbackup'
[07:55] <ks1> there is dvdxshrink for linux, also k9copy isnt too bad
[07:55] <drky> link?
[07:55] <ephesius> soundray: looks good thanks
[07:56] <qq1010_> any software can download movie....
[07:56] <YOKcom> is Dapper i386 installed by default when installing ubuntu?
[07:56] <jeroen__> Hello everyone i hope some one can help me on this problem i have with the ajustment of the resolution of my computter screen dough i cant change it anymore its stuck on 640x480 everything is to big:(
[07:57] <Zarephath> What package(s) do I need to install to have access to wpa settings under network?
[07:57] <qq1010_> any body know?
[07:57] <soundray> !fixres > jeroen__
[07:57] <statters> wpa_supplicant I think
[07:57] <Zarephath> qq1010: What is your question? You want to be able and see streamed movie?
[07:57] <ericz> say i turned an rpm into a deb, and then installed it, but deleted the deb
[07:58] <ericz> can i like
[07:58] <Zarephath> statters: Kewl thanks
[07:58] <qq1010_> torrent?
[07:58] <jeroen__> soundray what is Fixres?
[07:58] <ericz> recreate the deb from the installed package
[07:58] <ericz> ?
[07:58] <crimsun> ericz: no
[07:58] <qq1010_> download like bitcomet?
[07:58] <ephesius> !libdvdcss2 > ephesius
[07:58] <nwbreneman> Hi, I recently installed Xfce over gnome. I can't remember what I was doing, but I logged in a day or two ago, and my desktop background was that of gnome, and it seemed like everything was displayed by gnome/nautilus etc., except for my panels. Is there any way to reverse this? (For further example, with Xfce the desktop icons were smaller, but now they are like they were when I used gnome)
[07:58] <YOKcom> is Dapper i386 installed by default when installing ubuntu?
[07:58] <qq1010_> do u know?
[07:58] <YOKcom> is there a way to check actually
[07:58] <Zarephath> qq1010: how about bittorrent? install from synaptic or from command line
[07:58] <soundray> jeroen__: look at your private messages. ubotu should have sent you one.
[07:59] <LjL> YOKcom: what do you mean? if you install using the Dapper x86 CD, then yeah. if you don't, no
[07:59] <Zarephath> qq1010: You could use azureus if you have java working...or I think there may be a frontend to bitttorent not sure
[07:59] <qq1010_> it can download like bitcomet?
[07:59] <YOKcom> thanks LjL. I was a little confused one what dapper really was thats all
[07:59] <Zarephath> qq1010: Azureus can download like bittorrent yes
[08:00] <soundray> !dapper
[08:00] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[08:00] <YOKcom> cool thanks guys
[08:00] <qq1010_> azureus?
[08:00] <qq1010_> how can i get it?
[08:00] <qq1010_> where can i download?
[08:00] <soundray> !azureus
[08:00] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[08:00] <nwbreneman> could anyone tell me why my desktop seems to be using gnome when i've installed xfce? and my panels are also xfce's?
[08:00] <Snovictim> hi all!
[08:00] <LjL> YOKcom: Dapper is the "nickname" for the current (6.06) version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc
[08:01] <LjL> YOKcom: Dapper Drake, actually
[08:01] <soundray> nwbreneman: you need to select a session at the login screen.
[08:01] <statters> took me 10 mins to crack a AP with wpa tkip,,,,  password was cheese&onion :))
[08:01] <Snovictim> is there any good "howto" that explains ways to install xgl with amd64 ?
[08:01] <Xinos> poningru Ok, I installed ubuntu again but there seems to be no grub in the boot folder. Is it the wrong boot folder?
[08:01] <soundray> !xgl
[08:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:01] <nwbreneman> soundray: i have, but maybe something got mixed up and it's using the default session. my panels are xfce, it's just i logged in and the icons on the desktop were gnome's, etc.
[08:01] <Xinos> I know I installed Grub
[08:01] <qq1010_> ok i try it now...
[08:01] <qq1010_> thks a lot !!!
[08:02] <poningru> Xinos: yeah
[08:02] <poningru> go to a terminal
[08:02] <Snovictim> thx!
[08:02] <Xinos> okay
[08:02] <nwbreneman> soundray: anyway, I guess i'll try logging in with the xfce session, thanks
[08:02] <poningru> and type 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt' replace hda1 with whereever you installed ubuntu
[08:03] <THX-1138> A troublesome emulated app locks up my Ubuntu - Can i use something to keep an eye on it?
[08:03] <benkong2> I have a perfectly good Network Manager Setup running Kubuntu. I just installed Ubuntu-Desktop. If I want to get NM working there any issues I need to be aware of?
[08:03] <eMb> So now I've successfully mounted my NTFS partition, but I can only access it while in su.
[08:04] <soundray> !ntfs
[08:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:04] <Xinos> done
[08:04] <eMb> !ftp
[08:04] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[08:04] <soundray> eMb: ^^
[08:04] <eMb> :)
[08:04] <THX-1138> Can i limit CPU resources for an application?
[08:04] <eMb> oh god gaims smileys are ugly
[08:04] <crimsun> rock7: have you contact 'dj zog'?
[08:05] <Xinos> now what?
[08:05] <soundray> THX-1138: man renice
[08:05] <crimsun> rock7: zogusb at zog dot net dot au
[08:05] <crimsun> rock7: (or see http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3791 )
[08:05] <billyp> Hi, I'm trying to record a real audio stream. I've tried vsound & mplayer, both of which should work according to what I've read - but don't for me :-(. Anyone know ofanything reasonably simple I could use?
[08:05] <THX-1138> soundray - sounds good. Let me take a look.
[08:05] <jrib> billyp: how are you using mplayer?
[08:06] <rock7> well, I have tried most recorders, I was using lame and sox
[08:06] <rock7> but soundrec works
[08:06] <Xinos> poningru Okay, I did that.
[08:06] <rock7> (I cna't get it to work on soundrec, either)
[08:06] <arepie> anyone wanna help me install fglrx driver?
[08:07] <billyp> jrib, via the comand line  from notes in this URL...
[08:07] <poningru> Xinos: now there should be a boot folder in there
[08:07] <YOKcom> hey guys, I'm trying to save and overwrite my xorg.conf but dont have permissions. How do I get permission to?
[08:07] <poningru> err browse to /mnt
[08:07] <soundray> arepie: no, unless you have a specific problem with the instructions on the wiki:
[08:07] <soundray> !ati
[08:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:07] <poningru> YOKcom: sudo
[08:07] <poningru> Xinos: under /mnt there should be a boot folder
[08:07] <YOKcom> just sudo in the terminal?
[08:07] <poningru> in there should be grub/grub.conf
[08:07] <poningru> YOKcom: 'sudo su'
[08:08] <poningru> in a terminal
[08:08] <arepie> soundray: i've followed the wiki for a few times, and now i just reformat my ubuntu edgy because of my conf was mess up..
[08:08] <poningru> that will give you super user status
[08:08] <YOKcom> thanks poningru
[08:08] <jrib> billyp: mplayer -dumpstream  usually works for me.  Is that what you tried?
[08:08] <soundray> poningru: not grub.conf
[08:08] <poningru> and you can mess around with your hearts content
[08:08] <cryptonic> can anyone tell me if theres an ubuntu ftp site
[08:08] <cryptonic> ?
[08:08] <Kubu> does anyone know how to make ndiswrapper work for edgy
[08:09] <Xinos> poningru no, there was no boot folder in mount. There was another mnt folder withing the mnt folder that had almos the same amount of diskspace as my linux disk though. But it was empty
[08:09] <Abst> Not sudo su, sudo -i
[08:09] <soundray> arepie: don't use edgy unless you can handle difficult situations. Install dapper, then the instructions will apply.
[08:09] <Xinos> in mnt*
[08:09] <soundray> arepie: or ask for help in #ubuntu+1
[08:09] <billyp> jrib, no didn't try dumpstream  - the arrticle didn't mention that. Will see how that works. Thanks!
[08:09] <Xinos> oh wait
[08:09] <Xinos> found it
[08:09] <arepie> im quite sleepy, i will continue tmrw
[08:09] <Xinos> sorry
[08:10] <cryptonic> antone?
[08:10] <cryptonic> anytone = anyone
[08:11] <Xinos> poningru There is no grub.conf in mnt/boot/grub
[08:11] <THX-1138> soundray - "nice" tip. Thanks.     Is creating a user group for that application what i should do?
[08:11] <qq1010_> azureus file very big...
[08:11] <soundray> THX-1138: I don't know
[08:12] <YOKcom> poningru: i am now root but. when i drag my mouse to actually close the text editor and save the xorg.conf it wont let me still because of permissions
[08:12] <THX-1138> soundray - Ok, Thank You.
[08:13] <drumline_> That new 'init' in Edgy looks amazing
[08:13] <soundray> drumline_: the edgy channel is #ubuntu+1
[08:13] <YOKcom> i am now root but. when i drag my mouse to actually close the text editor and save the xorg.conf i edited it wont let me still because of permissions
[08:13] <pradeep> hi...when I do a 'ls' I get a ' error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1:' error
[08:14] <soundray> YOKcom: don
[08:14] <soundray> YOKcom: don't repeat pls
[08:14] <YOKcom> ok
[08:14] <jrib> YOKcom: what do you mean by "you are now root", how did you become root?  How did you open the file?
[08:14] <YOKcom> jrib: i did sudo su
[08:14] <nikin> hy
[08:14] <poningru> Xinos: did grub install crash again?
[08:14] <YOKcom> jrib: i manually naviated to xorg.confg
[08:14] <Kurgan> Hiya. can someone tell me how to access an NTFS drive from Ubuntu? I "don't have permission," which is silly, because it's my system and I'm the only account. Usually "dangerous" stuff asks me for my system password, but it's not doing it for this. I even tried to Change User to just "root," but for some reason it says I've got a bad password (during install it only asked me to create one sudo account, not a separate root pass, a
[08:14] <Kurgan> I recall). Any help is appreciated.
[08:14] <Xinos> It didn't look like it crashed
[08:14] <YOKcom> jrib: by going through the folders
[08:14] <poningru> YOKcom: you have to open it from under the terminal
[08:15] <YOKcom> poningru: oh ok
[08:15] <poningru> !ntfs
[08:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:15] <soundray> YOKcom: sudo su is not recommended. Open the file with sudo nano filename or similar
[08:15] <jrib> YOKcom: don't sudo su, use 'sudo -i' instead.  And then you have to open it from the terminal like poningru said
[08:15] <nikin> YOK: if it isnt a problem use: sudo nano [path to file] 
[08:15] <soundray> YOKcom: use sudo -i if you need a root shell
[08:15] <nikin> that works for sure
[08:15] <poningru> !ntfs > Kurgan
[08:15] <Kurgan> Thanks. Pulling that link up now.
[08:15] <fredl> Is there a Dapper VMWare appliance?
[08:15] <drumline_> soundray: cool.  Thx.
[08:16] <soundray> Kurgan: use the wiki:
[08:16] <soundray> !ntfs
[08:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:17] <fredl> n/m found one.
[08:17] <jonah1980_2_> hi i've lost my wireless connection updating to edgy, can anyone help - i've got a netgear pcmcia card. it's still got the signal strength and settings in networking dialog but not working...
[08:18] <YOKcom> poningru: i'm new to ubuntu. I navigated to where i need to be. Whats the command to edit or open the xorg.conf?
[08:18] <jrib> jonah1980_2_: #ubuntu+1 is for help with edgy
[08:18] <jaksh_eet> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:18] <pepsi> http://i.data.bg/06/06/22/21358.jpg
[08:19] <fredl> Hmm, what would be faster... Installing ubuntu from scratch off of a CD, Installing Ubuntu through a PXE boot over a fast network, or installing Ubuntu from a VMWare appliance stored on my NFS?
[08:19] <jrib> !ops
[08:19] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:19] <tritium> jrib: what?
[08:19] <jrib> tritium: ban pepsi , don't even click on his link...
[08:19] <pepsi> jrib, :(
[08:19] <jonah1980_2_> jrib, sorry i just thought that it would be same to get working again in edgy as dapper
[08:19] <AfterDeath> yeh that link is bad
[08:20] <pepsi> AfterDeath, !$#@% what channels _arent_ you in?
[08:20] <tritium> pepsi: that was really a bad choice on your part
[08:20] <fredl> I guess depending on how fast the CD drive is, installing from a local CD might be faster huh?
[08:20] <pepsi> excuse me?
[08:20] <pepsi> seems like a good choice to me
[08:20] <AfterDeath> pepsi: a lot
[08:21] <fredl> does anybody here ever do automated / semi-automated Ubuntu install on large amount of systems?
[08:21] <sproingie> *!*@unaffiliated/jbutera
[08:21] <sproingie> what the heck kind of hostmask is that?
[08:22] <fredl> thanks tritium, that was gross :/
[08:22] <sproingie> irc lesson #1, never click on unsolicited links
[08:22] <poningru> YOKcom: in your terminal type in 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:23] <sproingie> linux isn't necessarily 100% drive-by exploit-proof either
[08:23] <drky> can anyone help me change the permissions on a partition so i can write to it
[08:23] <tritium> fredl: it was entirely inappropriate, yes.  Thanks, jrib.
[08:23] <poningru> YOKcom: if you are already super user skip the sudo
[08:23] <YOKcom> i did now it says cannot open display:null
[08:23] <overridex> weird, everytime i restart gaim in edgy, it resets my smiley theme to default
[08:23] <ladydoor> hey folks...is there a way to force my /etc/motd file to remain world-unwritable? yesterday, i changed the message in it and then gave it 444 permissions (still owned by root, of course)...today, the old message is back and it has 644 permissions.
[08:24] <fredl> sproingie, judging from the recent discussion about SSH on the bugtraq list, that's not just Linux :)
[08:24] <sproingie> fredl: another ssh vuln?
[08:24] <poningru> sproingie: howso?
[08:24] <ephesius> how would i set ubuntu to boot to terminal rather than a gui on a server
[08:24] <poningru> baah dont have any sshd running
[08:24] <Ty> drky,  mount the partition, then use chroot
[08:24] <fredl> sproingie, well one that could be considered 'minor' since it has (so far) only been demonstrated on SUSE.
[08:24] <THX-1138> ladydoor - How does that happen? Do you have gnomes in your machine?
[08:25] <poningru> ephesius: rc-update X delete default
[08:25] <fredl> sproingie, a timing leak that allows an attacker to probe if a username exists or not.
[08:25] <poningru> err wait wrong distro
[08:25] <poningru> fredl: like I said no sshd
[08:25] <ladydoor> THX-1138: ugh, i don't even have a single GNOME
[08:25] <ephesius> poningru: will that still enable me to startx when i need it?
[08:25] <TheGateKeeper> ephesius: have you installed a desktop on your server?
[08:26] <drky> can anyone tell me how to enable a partition so all users can write to it?
[08:26] <THX-1138> ladydoor And your machine likely runs faster for it.
[08:26] <sproingie> fredl: oh that's a pretty old one.  it requires a lot of repeat poking too, doesn't it?
[08:26] <fredl> poningru, well I think ssh is one of the safer protocols in use on the internet these days :)
[08:26] <ladydoor> THX-1138: sure does!
[08:26] <ephesius> TheGateKeeper: not yet but i wanted to so i could test things if i needed to
[08:26] <fredl> sproingie, no it's been on bugtraq only recently. It's a new one I think.
[08:26] <sproingie> fredl: i used to have a rule that would firewall any IP that tried more than three ssh connects in a minute
[08:27] <poningru> ephesius: wrong distro dude I was thinking gentoo for a sec
[08:27] <poningru> ephesius: dont think that will work on ubuntu
[08:27] <sproingie> fredl: i really wish distros would install it by default
[08:27] <poningru> fredl: true
[08:27] <THX-1138> ladydoor - I wanted to run a troublesome emulated app in a seperate xorg session. would that help?
[08:27] <ephesius> TheGateKeeper: i just want to be able to start it when i want
[08:27] <Silver_Seagull> Halp!  I get an Xserver failure with the error "vesa(0): set VBE mode failed!"  This is on the AMD64 6.06 Disc
[08:27] <Ty> drky,                    [sudo mount /dev/whatever /home/user/hd2]           then             [chmod /home/user/hd2 777] 
[08:27] <ephesius> poningru: i was thinking that sounded weird haha
[08:27] <poningru> sproingie: sshd?
[08:27] <THX-1138> ladydoor Would adding nice/renice help?
[08:27] <poningru> why?
[08:27] <poningru> ephesius: hold on
[08:27] <ladydoor> THX-1138: i'm really sorry....i honestly don't know anything about emulation (other than use wine for windows)
[08:28] <ladydoor> THX-1138: or about multiple x-sessions. :-(. i wish i could help
[08:28] <drky> can anyone help me please?
[08:28] <fredl> THX-1138, you used VMWare?
[08:28] <poningru> ephesius: sorry dude I forgot how to do that in deb/ubuntu
[08:28] <llindy> Hey, I just installed windows xp on parelle's, and it wont let hit the option to save can anyone help me out?
[08:28] <ephesius> poningru: its ok
[08:28] <ephesius> poningru: thanks for trying
[08:28] <THX-1138> ladydoor. Exactly, World of Warcraft. with wine. is it warden wow or wine - hehe
[08:29] <ladydoor> drky: could you please post your /etc/fstab to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:29] <soundray> !metaquestion
[08:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:29] <ladydoor> THX-1138: i know i've heard of that. it's a game, right?
[08:29] <YOKcom> poningru: I ran "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and I get "cannot open display: (null)
[08:29] <THX-1138> ladydoor - it starts like that..
[08:29] <ladydoor> drky: and then post here the link to the page it makes
[08:30] <drky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26900/
[08:30] <THX-1138> It becomes erm an obsession.
[08:30] <ladydoor> THX-1138: that sounds very menacing...are you sure you want to get into something like that? could be dangerous
[08:30] <llindy> Hey, I just installed windows xp on parelle's, and it wont let hit the option to save can anyone help me out?
[08:30] <poningru> YOKcom: try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:30] <sproingie> poningru: no, rate limits on sshd connections
[08:30] <poningru> sproingie: oh true
[08:31] <poningru> I guess ... but I scp all the time
[08:31] <THX-1138> ladydoor - there is a twelve step help group for it. - unfortuneatly it meets goldshire.
[08:31] <drky> ladydoor did you get it?
[08:31] <woei> when exactly are the iso's of Edgy supposed to be released to the public ? Somewhere around Monday 23rd ?
[08:31] <poningru> 26 iirc
[08:31] <myesterious> Which program can convert pdf to html ?
[08:31] <THX-1138> A city in the game.
[08:31] <ladydoor> drky: sure did. which partition do you want everybody to be able to write?
[08:31] <sproingie> poningru: that's why it should be hooked into pam.  i don't scp to this box so i just rate limit
[08:32] <tritium> myesterious: pdftohtml
[08:32] <drky> /dev/hda1
[08:32] <llindy> installed vmware, up and ruuning ubuntu/windows, wont let save..nedd help please!
[08:32] <YOKcom> poningru: ok now I am lost. It worked I am at a screen that says GNU nano up at hte top and the location of the file. Sorry <---new bare with me
[08:33] <myesterious> pdftohtml made wrong convert.
[08:33] <llindy> guys help please..... installed vmware, up and ruuning ubuntu/windows, wont let save..nedd help please
[08:33] <myesterious> I have used gmail to convert (view as html function) but no image
[08:33] <soundray> myesterious: there is another utility of the same name in package poppler-utils. Try that.
[08:34] <llindy>  installed vmware, up and ruuning ubuntu/windows, wont let save..nedd help please
[08:34] <acke_> hey guys. i try to install flash with easyubuntu. but i get a key error and i also get fix broken packages error. but i dont know how to do that in easyubuntu, anyone knows?
[08:34] <bug_> thx: you can use flexiserver to start more sessions, if that's what you're looking for
[08:34] <fredl> llindy, what exactly do you mean with 'need help'
[08:34] <llindy> I cant seem to save the sttings, what to do?
[08:34] <fredl> llindy, please don't repeat your questions so quickly.
[08:34] <Outerlimit> what software should i use to burn a bootable ISO?
[08:34] <llindy> have to keep running the set up.
[08:34] <THX-1138> llindy - llindy - we are volunteers here sometimes you get lucky and someone knows what you need other times not. - please be patient.
[08:34] <ladydoor> drky: ok, first try this: (fist back up your /etc/fstab:  sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak)...then you're going to need to put something in the options column. so under <options>, write defaults,user
[08:35] <llindy> ke, sorry
[08:35] <myesterious> soundray, I have tried that program but it wrong displays too
[08:35] <llindy> doing this for 15 hours now, no luck
[08:35] <fredl> llindy, you mean the virtual machine settings?
[08:35] <Endust> the default vi is giving me problems.  It seems like its trying to autoincrement when I press return, but it drops down a line, and then tabs over from where the previous line began.  then if I backspace more than 3 times, it jumps a tab in the opposite direction.  something wrong with my vi?
[08:35] <llindy> yes
[08:35] <ladydoor> drky: which may enable anybody in the group users to write to it
[08:35] <llindy> unhighlighted
[08:36] <soundray> Outerlimit: in ubuntu, you can just right click on an iso and select Write to CD
[08:36] <drky> cool cheers done that
[08:36] <drky> so now if i reboot it should auto mount that partition as rw?
[08:36] <fredl> llindy, in vmware console you mean?
[08:36] <llindy> yes
[08:36] <Kurgan> Ok, I ran the script listed on the AutomaticallyMountPartitions page, but it appears not to have worked. Still saying I don't have permission to access the NTFS partitions. The subsequent info given below that (on that page) for doing things manually is a bit much (I'm a Linux noob). Any ideas why that script wouldn't have worked? Do I need to reboot, despite it saying I didn't have to?
[08:36] <|Mikael|> who knows a tool to repair mp3's which are not seekable
[08:36] <bug_> endust: i had that problem.. it's a terminal emulation problem
[08:36] <Outerlimit> soundray, oh, cool.  thanks :)
[08:36] <roostishaw> anyone know if there is wpa support in ubuntu on the intel macs?
[08:36] <fredl> llindy, odd, I don't have that problem it would seem....
[08:36] <woei> hmm, is there an easy to way to get a list of installed packages and the repository they originated from ? Something like dpkg -l, but with an extra column containing the repository.
[08:37] <llindy> I know, I dunno wazzup
[08:37] <Endust> ah, ok.  thanks bug_
[08:37] <ladydoor> drky: you could just unmount and then remount it, instead...
[08:37] <fredl> llindy, but then again I've never had to save anything on the VM settings yet. I just installed VMWare server today.
[08:37] <bug_> endust: give me a minute and i should be able to give you the solution
[08:37] <llindy> shaking my head...stumped
[08:37] <llindy> hmmm....
[08:37] <ladydoor> drky: in linux, reboots are generally unnecessary except for things like kernel upgrades.
[08:37] <tgelter> hey all, I'm having a bit of trouble w/ startup scripts under /usr/share/initramfs-tools...does anyone have experience with that?
[08:37] <drky> but it will auto mount at next boot too?
[08:37] <Gasten> Hello. What should I do if "make" doesn't work?
[08:37] <fredl> llindy, what setting did you change that you would like saved?
[08:37] <Endust> I'm just using gnome's terminal, I may just switch to aterm or something
[08:37] <llindy> let me try pause, stop, and then save again
[08:38] <fredl> llindy, also, before you can change anything you need to power down the virtual server.
[08:38] <llindy> to save the set up and install
[08:38] <soundray> Gasten: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:38] <llindy> oh, ok
[08:38] <llindy> let me try it...thanks!
[08:38] <fredl> llindy, hope that helps.
[08:38] <drky> it says the line is invalid
[08:38] <ladydoor> drky: and if you're responding, please say my nick so i don't have to parse through the channel to find if you've said something
[08:38] <Gasten> soundray: trying that..
[08:38] <YOKcom> I just edited something with sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the terminal how do i exit and save it?
[08:38] <llindy> thanks...trying now..let you knpw fredl
[08:38] <drky> ladydoor: sorry new to this :)
[08:38] <ladydoor> drky: ok, would you post the new fstab, please?
[08:38] <ladydoor> drky: no worries
[08:38] <fredl> drky, what IRC program are you using?
[08:39] <soundray> YOKcom: it says on the bottom of the screen. Ctrl-O to write out, Ctrl-X to exit.
[08:39] <drky> ladydoor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26903/
[08:39] <YOKcom> thanks sound soundray. write out = saving im guessing?
[08:39] <drky> fredl: xchat
[08:39] <YOKcom> just want to make sure
[08:39] <fredl> drky, try typing lady<TAB> it should mak retyping the nickname easier.
[08:39] <jasper`> .
[08:39] <tokyoahead> hi guys... any release date info for 6.10?
[08:39] <drky> fredl, aha cheers
[08:39] <soundray> tokyoahead: 26 Oct planned
[08:40] <tokyoahead> soundray: thanks
[08:40] <fredl> is it good when I look in my download window for the Ubuntu VMWare appliance and it says it has downloaded 666Mb so far?
[08:40] <tgelter> Gasten: probably just apt-get install build-essential
[08:40] <YOKcom> soundray: thanks it worked
[08:41] <sureshot> hey all is there any advantages to making custom kernel .. would it speed up my machine any or do you all know any tweeks i could do
[08:41] <ladydoor> drky: and the one you're editing is the one you want to mount on /mnt/space, right?
[08:41] <overridex> hmm... why does upgrading vmware-player want to remove gnome-main-menu, libdbus-1-2 and libnautilus-burn3?
[08:41] <soundray> sureshot: you learn a lot about the Linux kernel if you roll your own. Otherwise, there is very little advantage to it.
[08:41] <drky> ladydoor, yep thats the one
[08:41] <pradeep> when I do a 'ls' I get this error and there is no output 'error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1:' .. how do i fix this?
[08:41] <fredl> sureshot, I can't think of a real reason to do so. Compiling in the modules you need might save a *little* bit of overhead...
[08:42] <sureshot> soundray i know that on but just asking trying to learn all i can no project it is hard to learn
[08:42] <bug_> endust: are you using vi or vim?
[08:42] <Silver_Seagull> Halp!  I get an Xserver failure with the error "vesa(0): set VBE mode failed!"  This is on the AMD64 6.06 Disc
[08:42] <sproingie> sureshot: compiling a kernel is mostly clicking on a bunch of config options.  it's exceedingly easy.
[08:43] <Silver_Seagull> It autodetects everything right, just fails to init
[08:43] <ladydoor> drky: oh! i told you wrong. the problem was that the columns were a little out of alignment (which doesn't actually matter). so instead, add to the part that says "rw,auto" without spaces ",user"
[08:43] <soundray> pradeep: that's a strange one... Try 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install libacl1'
[08:43] <ladydoor> drky: (they were out of alignment, so i got confused. lol)
[08:43] <Endust> vim.  I just tried set nocompatible in my .vimrc, but that was a nogo
[08:43] <drky> ladydoor, cheers i'll try that :) lol
[08:43] <sureshot> sproingie never done it so i dont know most likely would not know what to compile LOLOLOL
[08:43] <bruenig> what kernel should I use? I read something about a generic kernel?
[08:44] <sproingie> !lol
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <sproingie> feh
[08:44] <bruenig> !bot
[08:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:44] <sproingie> anyone who LOL's me activates a 10 minute delay to any other answers.  i'll give this one for free tho
[08:44] <sproingie> !kernel-package
[08:44] <ubotu> kernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In component main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[08:44] <pradeep> soundray, thanks it's working now :) .. I hope I will be able to boot now
[08:45] <sureshot> how would i dl the kernel to compile it..
[08:45] <sureshot> i want the 686 kernel
[08:46] <soundray> !kernelcompile > sureshot
[08:46] <ephesius> anyone know how to set ubuntu to not boot into x?
[08:46] <tritium> sureshot: the linux-source-* packages are what you're looking for.  Any reason you need to compile one?
[08:46] <soundray> ephesius: 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[08:47] <sureshot> soundray thanks alot man gives me somthing to do befor i go back to church tonight have to play music to night fun very fun
[08:47] <bug_> endust: well.. i've got it: http://web.gat.com/docview/vi_arrow_key_fix.html
[08:47] <roostishaw> anyone know if there is wpa support in ubuntu on the intel macs?
[08:47] <tannerld> whats the package I must install to run a command like this "php update.php"/
[08:47] <gbutler69> Anyone know how to get Compiz/AIGLX working with Ubuntu Edgy and a Inter i915G video? Keeps saying does not have EXT_GLX_TEXTURE_FROM_PIXMAP.
[08:47] <ephesius> soundray: can i still use startx?
[08:47] <sureshot> tritium just somthing to learn i guess
[08:47] <soundray> sureshot: oh dear, hope you get paid well.
[08:47] <bruenig> !kernelcompile
[08:47] <soundray> ephesius: sure.
[08:47] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:47] <sureshot> soundray love to play my 12 string it is fun
[08:47] <ephesius> soundray: thanks
[08:47] <Endust> awesome, thanks bug_.  I was playing with term types, but never got it
[08:48] <bug_> the cups manager at localhost:631 won't let me do anything, even after enabling the root acct. it's some kind of authentication problem
[08:48] <soundray> sureshot: just joking of course ;)
[08:48] <fredl> Hmmm... to start up a VMWare appliance you unzip the appliance in the Virtual host directory and then simply click on the *.vmx file, right??
[08:48] <bug_> endust: that *should* work. i fixed it once on straight debian by setting term type to xterm, i think..
[08:48] <skewh> Hey there everyone, unless files in my /var/www folder are given chmod 444 permissions, it gives me a Forbidden error in my web browser, any way I can fix this?
[08:48] <tannerld> whats the package I must install to run a command like this "php update.php"/
[08:48] <YOKcom> soundray: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T60p I am on the second part starting there "[On my UXGA t60p the ChipID line" can you elaborate on that? I am not sure what they are telling me to do
[08:48] <sureshot> soundray i know man i just love to play doing some bluegrass tonight love to play that
[08:48] <fredl> I just downloaded the Ubuntu Dapper VMWare appliance and it doesn't seem to work like that *ponder*
[08:48] <bug_> does anyone know how to get the cups browser interface to work?
[08:49] <drky> ladydoor, hey i tried that but i still cant create folders on the mounted volume
[08:49] <snoops> hey, umm..does anyone have any experience with handwriting recognition software for linux? I'm going to be buying a wacom drawing tablet, and wanted to use it for drawing + handwriting recognition, but from a few google searches it seems handwriting recognition is pretty much non-existant in the nix world..Any advice would be much appreciated!
[08:49] <Adam__> gah, I have no idea how I'm connected. I can't connect to my router, DSL modem, or even ping google. But IRC still works :/
[08:49] <ladydoor> drky: after unmounting and remounting it?
[08:49] <soundray> sureshot: that's a cool church where you can play bluegrass. However, we are veering ever so slightly off topic.
[08:49] <skewh> Hey there everyone, unless files in my /var/www folder are given chmod 444 permissions, it gives me a Forbidden error in my web browser, any way I can fix this?
[08:49] <Endust> yea, my term is already set to xterm.. but notimeout fixed it.  thanks :)
[08:49] <ladydoor> drky: (just double-checking)
[08:49] <fredl> snoops, actually I think google itself has released an OCR application that works on Linux too.
[08:49] <drky> i'll repaste
[08:49] <joris> Does anyone have a simple and good guide for gnome-volume-control for alsa mixer. There are so many preferences i dont understand...
[08:49] <drky> ladydoor, i'll repaste
[08:50] <ladydoor> skewh: if they don't have read permission, they can't be read...
[08:50] <ladydoor> drky: that's ok
[08:50] <sureshot> soundray yes i agree very slightly hehe i just love to chat with people that have a brain if you know what i mean
[08:50] <gbutler69> Compiz/AIGLX with Intel i915G video on Edgy? Anyone?
[08:50] <snoops> fredl hmm I think I heard something about that..but wasn't sure if there were any apps to use it with the wacom in mind
[08:50] <ladydoor> drky: i'm just asking whether you unmounted and then remounted it so the changes could take effect
[08:50] <bruenig> !xgl
[08:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:50] <jake_> Hello, I am looking for some help with vmware server, can anyone help?
[08:50] <skewh> ladydoor: Yes, but whenever I upload files via FTP, they are automatically given CHMOD 000, and I have to manually change it to 444 or more
[08:50] <drky> ladydoor, yeah i unmounted and remounted
[08:50] <soundray> sureshot: #ubuntu-offtopic is the place
[08:51] <sureshot> i know
[08:51] <gbutler69> Not XGL. AIGLX?
[08:51] <tannerld> whats the package I must install to run a command like this "php update.php"?
[08:51] <soundray> YOKcom: will have a look later. Putting daughter to bed now.
[08:51] <YOKcom> ok
[08:51] <YOKcom> thanks!
[08:51] <fredl> snoops, the wacom tablets are pretty well supported under X I think
[08:51] <Dot-comm> how do i get the latest shockwave on dapper
[08:51] <jrib> tannerld: php5-cli  (if you use 5)
[08:52] <Dot-comm> or flashplayer
[08:52] <tannerld> jrib: ty
[08:52] <Dot-comm> whatever its calld
[08:52] <jrib> Dot-comm: you can get the latest flash for linux (7)
[08:52] <Abst> !mov
[08:52] <bruenig> !xgl > gbutler69
[08:52] <jrib> ubotu: tell Dot-comm about flash
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <Dot-comm> idgi
[08:52] <Dot-comm> wha
[08:52] <fredl> Dot-comm, check ubuntuguide.org it has instructions for Flash and a LOT more.
[08:52] <gbutler69> Anyone with Intel i915 on Edgy? Does AIGLX/Compiz work? Mine doesn't. Complains about not having "GLX_TEXTURE_FROM_PIXMAP"
[08:52] <Dot-comm> ok thx
[08:52] <Dot-comm> :D
[08:52] <jrib> Dot-comm: if you really need flash 9, then you can install firefox through wine and flash as well
[08:53] <frandavid100> hi guys
[08:53] <bruenig> gbutler69, go to #ubuntu-xgl, since obviously two factoid triggers aren't enough
[08:53] <Adam__> gbutler69, try #ubuntu+1 ?
[08:53] <bruenig> !hi
[08:53] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:53] <gbutler69> bruenig: why !xgl?
[08:53] <bruenig> ok sorry
[08:53] <bruenig> !compiz
[08:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:53] <YOKcom> http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T60p I am on the second part starting there "[On my UXGA t60p the ChipID line" can you elaborate on that? I am not sure what they are telling me to do
[08:53] <bruenig> is that better
[08:53] <frandavid100> can you recommend me some good app to work with gif animations?
[08:53] <ladydoor> drky: ok, in that case, try adding this:  ",umask=111" in the same spot as before, then remounting
[08:53] <bruenig> !info gimp
[08:53] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2712 kB, installed size 7648 kB
[08:54] <frandavid100> easy stuff, just take frames from one and paste them into another
[08:54] <Robert> hi all
[08:54] <bruenig> !hi
[08:54] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:54] <drky> ladydoor, instead of the ,user?
[08:54] <Robert> does the ubuntu server edition cd install a gui ?
[08:54] <fredl> HRmm why do all VMWare appliances look different, this Ubuntu appliance only comes with two files in the zipfile....
[08:54] <frandavid100> bruenig: does the gimp handle animations?
[08:54] <Robert> bruenig: thanks :D
[08:54] <jrib> frandavid100: I think gimp can open gifs, but I've never used it to do so
[08:54] <bruenig> Robert, no
[08:54] <frandavid100> didn't know that
[08:54] <fildo> *gone
[08:54] <Robert> bruenig: oh, even if i tell it to install a LAMP platform /
[08:55] <Robert> and, does it atleast include those packages on the cd ?
[08:55] <bruenig> frandavid100, I think so, yeah I am pretty sure, people says it does, I generally don't do that but I have seen gifs alleged to have been made in gimp
[08:55] <drky> ladydoor, hmm no doesn't like that
[08:55] <ladydoor> drky: not instead. what error does it give?
[08:55] <bruenig> say*
[08:55] <fredl> gimp can definitely open and edit gifs.
[08:55] <Abst> is it possible to view this in Ubuntu? http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/borat/trailerg/
[08:56] <ladydoor> drky: (if it's longer than a couple lines, use pastebin)
[08:56] <bruenig> Abst, working fine with mozilla-mplayer
[08:56] <bruenig> !info mozilla-mplayer
[08:56] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[08:56] <frandavid100> I'll check that up and come back to you bruenig
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> Abst: yep I just did
[08:57] <drky> ladydoor, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26908/
[08:58] <drky> ladydoor, i have just formatted that partition as ext3 using gparted - it was a ntfs partition before. If that helps
[08:58] <ladydoor> drky: could you please re-enter the line you input that gave you the error and then post just that one line here?
[08:59] <fredl> whoohooo, Ubuntu Dapper in a VMWare virthost, life is sweet!
[08:59] <drky> ladydoor, 1sec
[08:59] <Abst> bruenig: Hmm
[08:59] <bruenig> Abst, hmmm
[09:00] <fredl> Now if only I had a half-decent Windows XP CD but that got lost over the years :/
[09:00] <Abst> I shall try mozilla-mplayer
[09:01] <bruenig> mplayer is pretty cool, plays everything
[09:01] <snoops> not everything, but close enough bruenig
[09:02] <fredl> is Ubuntu somehow aware if it's running as a VMWare virtual host?
[09:03] <drky> ladydoor, /dev/hda1       /mnt/space      ext3   rw,auto,user,umask=111     0	0
[09:03] <Abst> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[09:03] <jrib> Abst: enable multiverse
[09:04] <overridex> what should i use for a mailer for and ubuntu server so that mdadm can send notification emails to me... sendmail? or is there something smaller/better?
[09:04] <variant> i tried to install nvidia-legacy drivers but when i do modprobe nvidia i get "FATAL: nvidia_lagacy not found. error running install command for nvidia"
[09:04] <Abst> jrib: I have I think..
[09:04] <variant> anyone know why ?
[09:04] <jrib> Abst: make sure you have dapper multiverse, not jsut dapper-backports multiverse
[09:04] <goop2> anyone here use OO.o presenter?
[09:05] <Pegger> I am trying to get bridging working with openvpn  http://pastebin.ca/204194
[09:05] <Abst> I only have backprops
[09:05] <Abst> ports
[09:05] <SurfnOldFart> um guys
[09:05] <SurfnOldFart> i need help
[09:05] <SurfnOldFart> i think i screwd somethin up
[09:05] <Abst> How do I get multiverse
[09:06] <TheGateKeeper> !multiverse
[09:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:06] <Abst> !easysource
[09:06] <ladydoor> drky: hm. in theory that should be fine...but i've unfortunatly got to go. there are many other people here who will be able to help you (apparently more effectively) than i can. good luck! you might thry saving that again in case the problem was just a typo
[09:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:06] <ladydoor> *try
[09:06] <thedude__> is XGL a big memory hog, and is it worth it?
[09:07] <drky> ladydoor ok thanks for the help
[09:07] <drky> can anyone help me with a partition problem?
[09:07] <webben> how could i remove and reinstall gnome?
[09:07] <snoops> thedude__, I haven't found it to use much memory..and it's absolutely worth checking out..amazing stuff
[09:07] <fredl> webben - try apt-get --reinstall
[09:07] <thedude__> why would you want to do that
[09:07] <TheGateKeeper> thedude__: xgl is just basically eye candy
[09:07] <thedude__> is it a pain in the ass on ubuntu?
[09:08] <thedude__> yeah
[09:08] <fredl> webben, although it's tricky since GNOME consists of a lot of packages.
[09:08] <Allz-i-> how can i fix my keyboard .i have tryied to go to the keyboard setting .but nothing works .when i put it on icelandic keyboard :S
[09:08] <TheGateKeeper> !xgl
[09:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:08] <YOKcom> can someone help me with this driver guide I am reading?
[09:08] <Allz-i-> my keybpard all mixed up
[09:08] <webben> thedude_: i'm on edgy, and gnome has broken
[09:08] <willys_fueguino> hi!! How could I downgrade firefox??
[09:08] <webben> (fluxbox loads ,.... but not gnome)
[09:08] <snoops> TheGateKeeper eye candy of today is the standard of tomorrow
[09:08] <webben> (not even failsafe gnome)
[09:08] <ks1> webben: like how?
[09:09] <fredl> snoops, 3 years ago E! was just eyecandy.
[09:09] <fredl> snoops, now it still is :P
[09:09] <webben> ks1: How does it fail? Usually brown screen with a big white rectangle at the top left
[09:09] <[NoX] > !seen Ceeleste
[09:09] <[NoX] > !seen Celeste
[09:09] <YOKcom> http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T60p I am on the second part starting there "[On my UXGA t60p the ChipID line" can you elaborate on that? I am not sure what they are telling me to do
[09:09] <ubotu> I haven't seen ceeleste recently
[09:09] <ubotu> I last saw Celeste (n=Celeste@85.237.25.71) 9h 1m 5s ago, quiting: Client Quit
[09:09] <ks1> usplash or gdm or gnome environment ?
[09:09] <drky> can anyone help with a problem mounting a drive?
[09:09] <ks1> i'm running edgy with no problems.
[09:10] <illuvator> drky: what's the problem?
[09:10] <webben> ks1, GDM loads fine, and I can load fluxbox or xterm failsafe from GDM. But not Gnome or Failsafe Gnome.
[09:10] <fredl> does anybody know how come the Ubuntu I'm running in my VMWare server automatically logs in the user 'ubuntu' ?
[09:10] <webben> (and edgy was working for me too until this morning)
[09:10] <Allz-i-> how can i fix my keyboard .i have tryied to go to the keyboard setting .but nothing works .when i put it on icelandic keyboard :S.and i cant write this "/" but not the other part
[09:10] <fredl> hey since there's some edgy users here, anybody know if Enlightenment DR17 is already in there?
[09:10] <drky> illuvator, i'm trying to mount a partition i just reformatted from ntfs to ext3 but i get an error msg when i mount it
[09:11] <drky> illuvator, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26908/
[09:11] <willys_fueguino> hi!! How could I downgrade firefox?? Im on edgy and I cant check my yahoo mail
[09:11] <ks1> webben: try removing your .gnome .gnome2 .gconfd .gnome2_private .metacity .nautilus and related directories in your $HOME. you will loose customizations like panel settings etc
[09:11] <soundray> YOKcom: do you actually have that particular laptop model?
[09:11] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, tried dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg ?
[09:11] <TheGateKeeper> Allz-i-: you probable need to take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:11] <YOKcom> soundray: yes i do
[09:11] <webben> ks1: isn't that equivalent to launching failsafe gnome?
[09:11] <ks1> webben: not sure.
[09:11] <fredl> is there a way to make Ubuntu automatically log in a user without providing a password?!?!
[09:11] <ks1> you could also try clearing /tmp
[09:11] <YOKcom> soundray: i edited the xorg.conf already i'm on the second part now
[09:12] <YBH_1> I have set samba up and windows can see it but it won't allow me to browse the folder. It asks for name and password. What name and password am I supposed to use to access the ubuntu folder?
[09:12] <TheGateKeeper> fredl: I think it's in dapper so fairly sure it will be in edge
[09:12] <fredl> it's in Dapper?? no way.
[09:12] <soundray> YOKcom: what's the second part? Where it says "Kubuntu..."?
[09:12] <TheGateKeeper> think I once installed e17
[09:12] <illuvator> drky: what is the command you are using?
[09:12] <YOKcom> soundray: go a little up its in installing ubuntu dapper
[09:13] <webben> ks1; i might as well just make a second user
[09:13] <drky> illuvator, "sudo mount /dev/hda1"
[09:13] <fredl> TheGateKeeper, no that has to be e16
[09:13] <ks1> webben: that works also
[09:13] <nolimitsoya> fredl, check login window, under system. look under security
[09:13] <YOKcom> soundray: [On my UXGA t60p the ChipID line was actually fatal to getting fglrx to start up (/var/log/Xorg.0.log showed the driver falling back to VESA and fgl_glxgears would crash). Without that ChipID line my chip was identified as
[09:13] <YOKcom> soundray: that line
[09:13] <fredl> nolimitsoya, thanks.
[09:13] <willys_fueguino> hi!! How could I downgrade firefox?? Im on edgy and I cant check my yahoo mail
[09:13] <illuvator> drky: try: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /media/whereever
[09:14] <Allz-i-> what means root .it says you must run it as a root ?
[09:14] <illuvator> drky: and remember that /media/whatever must exist (you can make it with sudo mkdir /media/hda1...or whatever you like)
[09:14] <webben> Allz-i: what says?
[09:14] <Allz-i-> you must run it as a root
[09:14] <drky> illuvator, ok that mounts it but i cant write to it?
[09:14] <Allz-i-> so how do i do that ?
[09:15] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, press alt+f2, type sudo gedit
[09:15] <soundray> YOKcom: what it says is that you may or may not need the ChipID line in xorg.conf. Is it in your current one?
[09:15] <webben> Allz-i: root is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser  on Linux systems
[09:15] <YOKcom> soundray: let me check
[09:15] <illuvator> drky - you will need to set up the permissions. you have a few options. If you want it to be mounted every time you startup then it must be in /etc/fstab, if not then you need to use the mount options to sset the reight permissions. I don't know this off hand - which optio do you want  to follow and I'll help you more
[09:15] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, type this instead: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:16] <nolimitsoya> that gets you where you want to be in an instant
[09:16] <webben> Allz-i-, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/linux-basics.html#root-and-sudo
[09:16] <fredl> Cool, cool, triple cool! I'm running Windows XP, Nexenta and Dapper all in a virtual machine!
[09:16] <drky> illuvator, ok thanks. i need for everyone to be able to write to it?
[09:16] <Allz-i-> i know hehe this webben .just long time i have been on my computer
[09:16] <Allz-i-> i forgett little things
[09:16] <drky> illuvator, do i enter the same command into fstab to make it automount?
[09:16] <illuvator> drky: and do you want it to be mounted on startup?
[09:16] <YOKcom> soundray: it says ChipID 0x71c5
[09:16] <drky> illuvator, yes :)
[09:16] <webben> ks1, nope using a fresh user got me a brown screen + white rectangle again
[09:17] <webben> so guys how would I reinstall gnome?
[09:17] <fredl> Now I just hope that VMWare server will sometime soon be available as a .deb so I won't have to recompile it's kernel modules with every kernel update :P
[09:17] <TheGateKeeper> fredl: your right that is all I can find at the moment, but I am sure it used to be there
[09:17] <nolimitsoya> webben, sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[09:17] <padan> anyone know how to move files directly to attached storage on a palm device?
[09:17] <fredl> TheGateKeeper, that would surprise me, I'm not even sure if DR17 is past beta yet.
[09:18] <padan> fred, it will never come out of beta
[09:18] <padan> heh
[09:18] <padan> its been in beta for more than 6 years
[09:18] <webben> padan, thanks
[09:18] <illuvator> drky: not the same command - open fstab and have a look :). you want to put a line like the ones already in there
[09:18] <fredl> padan, don't underestimate Raster, that would not be wise :)
[09:18] <ks1> webben: I would boot fluxbox and try to use apt-get or aptitude to download the latest updates or either dpkg-reconfigure gnome/ubuntu-desktop i suppose
[09:18] <TheGateKeeper> fredl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216
[09:18] <drky> illuvator, /dev/hda1       /media/space	ext3	rw,auto,user,umask=111	0	0
[09:18] <padan> the problem is that they keep redoing the backend
[09:18] <illuvator> drky: are you using dapper or edgy - I have _just_ looked at an edgy fstab for the first time and it is doing things differently from any Linux I've used before
[09:18] <padan> 3 years into it they completely redid everything
[09:19] <TheGateKeeper> fredl: knew I wasn't dreaming it lol
[09:19] <drky> illuvator, dapper
[09:19] <webben> ks1: my machine's already updated but i could try dpkg-reconfigure, thanks
[09:19] <soundray> YOKcom: okay. Now you should be able to reboot and get a graphical login. *If* you don't, you'll have to login on a text console, run 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and add a # so it says #ChipID, and then run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'.
[09:19] <Allz-i-> nolitmitsoya okei i have opened my x-server.xorg ,now how do i fix my keyboard ?
[09:19] <fredl> awesome TheGateKeeper, I can now try it on my VMWare Ubuntu virt!!
[09:19] <illuvator> drky: cool, that line looks great
[09:19] <fredl> this is so cool :P
[09:19] <overridex> how do i send mail to a local user from the cli in ubuntu?  the command "mail" doesn't exist...
[09:19] <ks1> webben: idont know why you are having troubles, I downloaded the latest today and everything is fine. Do you have anything special running? like beryl
[09:19] <webben> ks1: no
[09:19] <illuvator> drky: to check without restarting try sudo umount /dev/hda1
[09:19] <Hooveyy> typing aptitude -v -v -v -v -v moo is very fun :)
[09:19] <padan> install mail tools overridex?
[09:19] <illuvator> then sudo mount -a
[09:19] <padan> heh
[09:19] <webben> ks1: well, except i've been trying to get orca working
[09:20] <TheGateKeeper> fredl: I knew I had installed it somehow in the past lol
[09:20] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, look for input, keyboard layout
[09:20] <nolimitsoya> change to you national code
[09:20] <webben> ks1: but i already tried apt-removing orca festival speech-dispatcher lsr
[09:20] <marc> I cant see my Hard Drives in the Computer icon of nautilus, any ideas? udev and hal are started.
[09:20] <webben> ks1: didn't make any difference
[09:20] <drky> illuvator,  ok unmounted
[09:20] <YOKcom> soundray: I got the graphical login. The reason I tried to follow that guide is because of laggyness on splash screens. I thought it would help it but it still happens. =/
[09:20] <illuvator> drky: sudo mount -a
[09:20] <soundray> overridex: install mailx
[09:21] <overridex> soundray: thanks
[09:21] <soundray> overridex: mutt might be even better
[09:21] <drky> illuvator, hmm esame error
[09:21] <overridex> soundray: any idea what mdadm would be using to send mail of failures?
[09:21] <drky> illuvator, esame=same
[09:21] <illuvator> drky: let me check you fstab line against one of mine, hold on
[09:22] <Pegger> I am trying to get bridging working with openvpn  http://pastebin.ca/204194
[09:22] <Weber> Could someone please take a look at this, and tell me what it does, and whats wrong? http://pastebin.ca/204218
[09:22] <YOKcom> sounday: I got the graphical login. Do you think I should comment out the ChipID line? You think that might fix my problem?
[09:22] <marc> I cant see my Hard Drives in the Computer icon of nautilus, any ideas? udev and hal are started.
[09:23] <soundray> overridex: no, sorry, but my guess is that it would use a built-in facility.
[09:23] <thedude__> that wacom gave me problems to
[09:23] <illuvator> drky: I'm looking at http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and wondering why yours doesn't work :)
[09:23] <thedude__> kill it its for a touchpad or a tablet or something
[09:23] <thedude__> i had to # it all out to get photoshop working
[09:23] <soundray> overridex: if it uses /usr/bin/mail without depending on mailx, then you should file a bug.
[09:23] <CocaCola77> Hi, I installed the checkmail applet via automix but I see it now where. Synaptics says there are no depencies problems.
[09:23] <marc> Weber: its just bullshit ubuntu puts in for wacom tablets without even detecgint if the computer has one, just edit your xorg conf and remove that, the errors will disappears
[09:23] <thedude__> in xorg.conf
[09:24] <Nox2k3> so uh, does anyone know why fglrx.ko is being deleted on every bootup?
[09:24] <drky> illuvator, yeah its odd, its ok with the -t line from the terminal
[09:24] <drky> illuvator, but even then i can only write to it with a sudo
[09:24] <CocaCola77> Nox2k3, I'm sure someone does.
[09:24] <illuvator> illuvator: spooky :P did you save fstab?
[09:25] <Dot-comm> why do some of you guys hate Gnome
[09:25] <drky> illuvator, yeah but its irrelevant because i've reformatted the partition since it last worked
[09:25] <fredl> coz Gnome is LARGE
[09:25] <Dot-comm> so
[09:25] <fredl> so
[09:25] <Dot-comm> it looks better
[09:25] <fredl> it's LARGE
[09:25] <zopy> hello, I know this is not a ubuntu question but I don't know where can I ask, where can I find sshd.c arhive ?
[09:25] <Dot-comm> like file size
[09:25] <fredl> 'better' is subjective.
[09:25] <Allz-i-> nolitmitsoya ok i see it :-> Section "InputDevice" Identifier	    "Keyboard" Driver	            "kbd" Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30"  Option "XkbModel"   "pc105"      Option "XkbLayout"  "us"  End section .and then another -> keyboard stuff -> Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver"  "kbd" Driver" "evdev" Option "Name"  "Microsoft Microsoft Wireless" end section
[09:25] <jbroome> maybe if your hardware didn't suck
[09:25] <Dot-comm> welll KDE
[09:25] <thedude__> large?
[09:25] <illuvator> drky: if you hadn't saved between the edits then I would have expected the same error - because it'd have been using the wrong fs type
[09:26] <Dot-comm> is just so darb
[09:26] <Dot-comm> and boreing
[09:26] <Nox2k3> Ok fine, why would my fglrx.ko be missing every time I startup my machine. I have to apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) every time to get it back
[09:26] <CocaCola77> what the command to see all channels? /list or something like that right?
[09:26] <drky> i've saved definately
[09:26] <illuvator> drky: how about removing options (in fact, maybe start at '/dev/hda1 /media/space defaults 00'
[09:26] <fredl> well I'm running GNOME too... but I won't yap at KDE since they're making strides and beating the GNOME developpers hands down.
[09:26] <Allz-i-> nolitmitsoya you see what is wrong ?
[09:26] <Buglouse> How can I get multiple apps to use my sound devices at the same time?
[09:26] <illuvator> !tell illuvator about grub
[09:26] <drky> illuvator, aye i'll try it
[09:27] <Weber> ok
[09:27] <CocaCola77> Buglouse, I thought alsa managed that.
[09:27] <Buglouse> same here.
[09:27] <webben> maybe i should just install kde and hope that works better :(
[09:27] <crimsun> Buglouse: it's already configured that way unless one or more of the following is true: 1) you use a usb sound device, 2) you use an oss-only app (like Flash)
[09:27] <webben> i wish kill actually worked
[09:28] <Buglouse> im using ventrilo with wine.... so ya.. oss
[09:28] <webben> rather than just ignoring me
[09:28] <drky> illuvator, ok that worked, do you know how i add a user to the permsissions?
[09:28] <fredl> Buglouse, doesn't have anything to do with ALSA I believe. it's ESD that takes care of realtime mixing.
[09:28] <crimsun> Buglouse: if you can't wrap it using aoss (cf. alsa-oss package), then you're out of luck.
[09:28] <crimsun> Buglouse: oss emulation is exclusive. No workaround for it if your hardware doesn't support pcm multiplexing natively.
[09:29] <illuvator> drky:now add the permissions with a umask
[09:29] <drky> illuvator, ie "...defaults,umask=1000..."?
[09:29] <illuvator> drky: as before - you can add the options 1 by one until you fdind the problematic one
[09:29] <CocaCola77> However, crimsun and Buglouse I noticed when I moved from my soundblaster to my onboard realtek card, I got some problems I didn' t have before. For example when someone messages on skype, all sounds stop and the mouse will not move for 2 seconds. At the moment I'm not sure if its onboard audio vs soundblaster issue.
[09:30] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, Xkblayout sould be your counrty code
[09:30] <crimsun> CocaCola77: which sb?
[09:30] <nolimitsoya> us is for american layout
[09:30] <CocaCola77> crimsun, the old one 1024 live or something like that.
[09:30] <nolimitsoya> se is for swedish, and so on
[09:30] <crimsun> CocaCola77: that's straightforward. Your sb supports native pcm multiplexing; your onboard Realtek doesn't.
[09:30] <jesu1> !aiglx
[09:30] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[09:30] <Weber> I have some FPS drop problem when I play 3D games. Can someone please log at this and maybe find somthing that causes it? this is my xorg log: http://pastebin.ca/204226 and this is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/204229
[09:31] <josh_> what is the command to open a connection to another computer? not through ftp or ssh...
[09:31] <fredl> Hrmmmmmm my Ubuntu VMWare machine only support up to 800x600!
[09:31] <josh_> i want to connect to a mail server through a terminal... how would i do that?
[09:31] <BiSk-8> hello, i want to put songs on my ipod from my ubuntu, i have rhythmbox but it will only let me listen to the songs, not add them... i also have gtkpod but it sais that itunes.db is missing.. i have no clue what to do... any ideas?
[09:31] <fredl> that sucks :/
[09:31] <Weber> look*
[09:31] <josh_> fred... install the vmware tools
[09:31] <Allz-i-> nolitmitsoya so you saying there is not problem there ?
[09:31] <fredl> josh_ oh?
[09:32] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, there is a problem :)
[09:32] <josh_> that should take care of your native 800x600 problem
[09:32] <fredl> Josh_ will that let me change the possible resolutions?
[09:32] <nolimitsoya> you wanted icelandic layout, and not american, right?
[09:32] <Allz-i-> nolitmitsoya can i maybe paste you on a site .my xorg.conf and you can fix it ?
[09:32] <BiSk-8> hello, i want to put songs on my ipod from my ubuntu, i have rhythmbox but it will only let me listen to the songs, not add them... i also have gtkpod but it sais that itunes.db is missing.. i have no clue what to do... any ideas?
[09:32] <fredl> josh_ cool, thanks!
[09:32] <CocaCola77> fredl, install vmware tools
[09:32] <drky> illuvator, ok i've got it mounted and all but user permission set, i can only write to it with sudo still?
[09:32] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, i dont know the country code for iceland :)
[09:32] <illuvator> !tell illuvator about aiglx
[09:32] <josh_> it should... it will allow for customization of the resolutions as it will load the appropriate driver for the display
[09:32] <nolimitsoya> just put that twoletter code in there, instead of us
[09:32] <Allz-i-> nolitmitsoya i just dont care .i wan english :S
[09:33] <nolimitsoya> thought you said icelandic?
[09:33] <battletux> could someone please tell me the location of the default background images in Ubuntu (6.06.1) so I can add to them? thanks.
[09:33] <fredl> josh_ where do I find those tools?
[09:33] <Allz-i-> there is a problem :i cant write "/" on the other way .if you understand what i mean
[09:34] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, are you, or are you not using a us-layout keyboard?
[09:34] <josh_> are you running vmware under an os? or did you buy vmware and its the "os"?
[09:34] <Allz-i-> i just dont know :S
[09:34] <illuvator> drky: I don't know what to do if the umask isn't working
[09:34] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, what country do you live in
[09:34] <josh_> anyone know the command to open a connection to another computer?
[09:34] <illuvator> drky: the line on my system for a read/write disk looks like 'defaults,utf8,umask=007'
[09:34] <fredl> josh_ I installed VMWare server today, it's running on Dapper.
[09:34] <Allz-i-> nolitmitsoya how to write "/" on the other way .in english keyboard just tell me
[09:34] <BiSk-8> hello, i want to put songs on my ipod from my ubuntu, i have rhythmbox but it will only let me listen to the songs, not add them... i also have gtkpod but it sais that itunes.db is missing.. i have no clue what to do... any ideas?
[09:34] <illuvator> drky:I meant the options look like
[09:34] <drky> illuvator, ok thanks for the help :)
[09:35] <Allz-i-> iceland
[09:35] <drky> illuvator, is the umask=<userid>?
[09:35] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, and what is the two letter code for iceland?
[09:35] <josh_> hmm....not exactly sure but it should be in one of the options... in windows its under "tools"
[09:35] <illuvator> drky: no, it realtes to octal file permissions
[09:35] <josh_> haven't used the linux server version yet
[09:35] <Allz-i-> is
[09:35] <Allz-i-> IS
[09:35] <illuvator> drky: if you have the time/inclination then 'man mount' will tell you much more than I can :)
[09:35] <fredl> josh_ followed this howto: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[09:36] <battletux> could someone please tell me the location of the default background images in Ubuntu (6.06.1) so I can add to them? thanks.
[09:36] <mart_> hi, can anyone recommend a soundcard to use with ubuntu
[09:36] <mart_> so i can just chuck it in... and it will work?
[09:36] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, good. then replace "Xkblayout" "us" to "Xkblayout" "is"
[09:36] <drky> illucheers
[09:36] <battletux> mart_ my Audigy 1 works fine out the box
[09:36] <mart_> many thanks
[09:37] <mart_> just what i was looking for :)
[09:37] <fredl> josh_ n/m, I found http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=43788&tstart=0
[09:37] <overridex> when i try to upgrade vmware-player on edgy the following packages will be REMOVED:   gnome-main-menu libdbus-1-2 libnautilus-burn3  -- is this ok/normal?
[09:37] <josh_> ok
[09:38] <nolimitsoya> overridex, that sound dangerous...
[09:38] <henna> meep, about edgy
[09:38] <Allz-i-> nolitmitsoya does not work :S
[09:38] <henna> is it possible to compile an older kernel and still run edgy otherwise,
[09:38] <henna> ?
[09:38] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, yes it does, you just have to restart x. save all your work and press ctrl+backspace
[09:39] <Allz-i-> ok
[09:39] <henna> (drake kernels worked no problem, but the edgy kernel messes up the timekeeping on my system)
[09:39] <nolimitsoya> sorry, ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:39] <soundray> battletux: ubuntu-artwork
[09:40] <battletux> soundray: thanks, whats the location in the fs for it? as I want to put all my backgrounds in 1 place.
[09:40] <overridex> nolimitsoya: yeah... i wonder why it's doing that
[09:41] <soundray> battletux: it's not a good idea to modify the default paths of files within packages. In any case, you can find out with dpkg -L ubuntu-artwork
[09:41] <josh_> just use "gnome-art"
[09:41] <nolimitsoya> overridex, couse the updates break dependencies
[09:42] <josh_> apt-get install gnome-art
[09:42] <battletux> soundray: thanks for the advise, and the info.
[09:42] <FRET> good evening everybody
[09:42] <Allz-i-> the keyboard ctrl+all+backspace does not work :S
[09:42] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i- did it work ? :)
[09:43] <nolimitsoya> Allz-i-, ok, just reboot you computer then
[09:43] <Allz-i-> ok
[09:43] <Allz-i-> ill be back
[09:45] <uberspaced> if I have a script that I want to run before my networking script during bootup, how should I set that up?
[09:46] <uberspaced> i could manually edit the networking script and throw the script in before it runs but I get the feeling that way wouldnt be proper
[09:46] <uberspaced> it's a firewall script.
[09:46] <soundray> uberspaced: add it to the directory /etc/network/if-pre-up.d
[09:46] <padan> uh if its a firewal script
[09:46] <padan> dont you want to run it after?
[09:46] <uberspaced> shit, good point.
[09:47] <frojnd> hello there
[09:47] <bruenig> !hi
[09:47] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:47] <frojnd> why my kmenu doesn't wanna show applications I've recently installed ?
[09:47] <mnk> hello all - i have just installed xgl and am wondering if anyone can tell me how to make an application stick to all workspaces? also how can i add more workspaces?
[09:47] <mnk> i am using gnome
[09:47] <uberspaced> so, if I want it to run after my network comes up, where would I put it?
[09:47] <bruenig> frojnd, how did you install them
[09:47] <soundray> frojnd: try 'sudo update-menus'
[09:47] <frojnd> by apt...
[09:47] <bruenig> mnk, #ubuntu-xgl
[09:48] <frojnd> I know there is some kind of command
[09:48] <ZeroCool> hi
[09:48] <padan> so no1 in here is syncing files to the palm and knows how to  move right to the card?
[09:48] <mnk> thanks bruenig
[09:48] <frojnd> but I don't know what it's look like
[09:48] <soundray> frojnd: try 'sudo update-menus'
[09:48] <padan> frojnd,
[09:48] <padan> 15:47 < soundray> frojnd: try 'sudo update-menus'
[09:48] <bruenig> frojnd, generally when done with apt they will have menu entries, I am pretty sure you can add menu entries. I know you can do it with gnome so it follows that you would be able to do it with kde (people always claim it is so customizable)
[09:48] <uberspaced> would throwing it in a folder called  if-post-up.d
[09:48] <uberspaced> work?
[09:48] <thedude__> install the debian menus
[09:48] <uberspaced> i see if-post-down.d and if-pre-up.d
[09:48] <tannerld> on ubuntu server how do I check if I have the latest stuff (aka update)?
[09:48] <thedude__> if you havent already
[09:49] <ZeroCool> spanish
[09:49] <bruenig> !es
[09:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:49] <soundray> uberspaced: no, put it in if-up.d then
[09:49] <padan> uber, you could also put it in a rc.local
[09:49] <padan> or whatever ubuntu is calling that
[09:49] <padan> it gets run after all other system start up scripts
[09:49] <uberspaced> padan, yeah, i came from redhat.  some of this stuff is new to me
[09:49] <soundray> padan, uberspaced: /etc/rc.local
[09:49] <fredl> josh_ are the vmware tools supposed to be installed INSIDE the virtual machine??
[09:50] <padan> fred, yes
[09:50] <fredl> ahhh okay
[09:50] <uberspaced> soundray, as far as alocation for the script is concerned, where do you think it should be on the file system?:
[09:50] <uberspaced> it's currently in my home folder.
[09:50] <padan> they are basicaly drivers for hte sound/video/net
[09:50] <padan> etc
[09:50] <padan> uber, put it in /usr/local/somewhere
[09:50] <fredl> padan so how do I get the iso into the virtual machine?
[09:50] <soundray> uberspaced: /etc/network/if-up.d/
[09:50] <padan> fred, use the vm console to mount the iso as its cdrom drive
[09:50] <padan> or
[09:50] <uberspaced> ok, will it automagically run if I put it in there?
[09:51] <padan> select the 'install vm tools' from the menu
[09:51] <padan> heh
[09:51] <soundray> uberspaced: whenever an interface has gone up.
[09:51] <uberspaced> soundray, sounds good; i'm running a firewall on an old computer that takes 2 mins to boot and I dont want to have to rejoin frenode for every failed attampt :)
[09:51] <fredl> install vm tools?? which menu option is that??
[09:51] <uberspaced> thanks.  I'll try that
[09:52] <fredl> duh, found it
[09:52] <padan> VM -> install vm tools
[09:52] <padan> heh
[09:52] <padan> but all that does it mount that iso as its cdrom drive
[09:52] <padan> and the auto play runs
[09:52] <padan> thats for windows at least
[09:52] <uberspaced> well, see you guys in a few...
[09:52] <padan> solaris you have to go dig up the iso
[09:52] <padan> and then mount it manually
[09:52] <fredl> padan, well it tries to mount my CDROM drive :P
[09:53] <padan> then modify the vm settings so that it uses the windows.iso file as its cdrom
[09:53] <padan> assuming you are installing the drivers on to a windows vm
[09:53] <fredl> oooh ok
[09:53] <fredl> getting it, tnx
[09:53] <fredl> new to VMWare :P
[09:53] <tannerld> on ubuntu server how do I check if I have the latest stuff (aka update)?
[09:54] <padan> apt-get update?
[09:54] <jbroome> and apt-get upgrade
[09:54] <pooya> my HDD keep making a noise.
[09:54] <thedude__> is there a linux version of vmxbuilder type thing?
[09:54] <padan> or you could read the documentation as im sure its one of the first sections in there
[09:54] <soundray> tannerld: 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[09:54] <tannerld> soundray: ty
[09:55] <ArrenLex> I want to set sudo up so that it lets me run certain specific commands without a password, and asks me for a password for all other commands. How might I do this?
[09:55] <padan> what does vmxbuild actually do
[09:55] <soundray> tannerld: you can add -y to the second apt-get to make it install without asking again
[09:55] <padan> arrenlex
[09:55] <tannerld> k
[09:55] <padan> look up the format for the sudo config file
[09:55] <padan> http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/man/sudo.html
[09:56] <thedude__> builds vmx files
[09:56] <thedude__> for vmware
[09:56] <padan> more than likely if you look in the ocnfig file you will see examples
[09:56] <ArrenLex> Yay! Made it work. Thanks, padan.
[09:56] <padan> np
[09:56] <padan> thedude, you mean like physical to virtual builder?
[09:57] <fredl> Hmm, no autoplay on the linux.iso...
[09:57] <thedude__> i think its just a substitute for vmware workstation
[09:57] <padan> fred, if its a windows virtual machine
[09:57] <padan> you need the windows.iso
[09:57] <padan> the linux.iso contains drivers for virtual machines running linux
[09:58] <fredl> padan, currently trying to install the vmware tools on an Ubuntu vm
[09:58] <fredl> so I mounted linux.iso
[09:58] <padan> thedude, i have only used esx and gsx (which is now vm free server)
[09:59] <padan> then i doubt there will be an autoplay
[09:59] <padan> more than likley you just need to make some changes to the xconfig
[09:59] <pooya> any idea why my HDD keps making an annoying noise when idel?
[09:59] <padan> its broken?
[09:59] <niekie> Run SMART on it?
[09:59] <fredl> funny, it appears to have mounted linux.iso.... however, when I type 'mount' it still shows /dev/hdc mounted
[10:00] <padan> uhh
[10:00] <padan> if it mounted it
[10:00] <padan> then of course mount will show it
[10:00] <padan> heh
[10:00] <fredl> yeah but it says /dev/hdc
[10:00] <padan> so?
[10:00] <fredl> not the name of the iso
[10:00] <padan> thats because the cdrom is /dev/hdc
[10:00] <padan> and you just told vmware that the phsicaly device is really an iso file
[10:01] <fredl> however when I cd into /media/cdrom0, there's no 'normal' files there
[10:01] <padan> but the base OS (eg. ubuntu in this case) doens't know where it comes from
[10:01] <padan> define normal
[10:01] <fredl> oh I see...
[10:01] <Bananasas> aloha
[10:01] <fredl> well 'normal'.... I can't paste it in here
[10:01] <padan> use pastebin
[10:01] <fredl> it looks like 'ls' gives the contents of some perl file
[10:01] <fredl> ok
[10:01] <Weber> I have some FPS drop problem when I play 3D games. Can someone please look at this and maybe find somthing that causes it? this is my xorg log: http://pastebin.ca/204226 and this is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/204229
[10:02] <padan> weber, you using an ati card?
[10:02] <Weber> No. Nvidia
[10:02] <fredl> argh can't paste from a virtual machine...
[10:02] <Bensr20det> where can I change the splash screen?
[10:03] <padan> then i can't help
[10:03] <padan> fred
[10:03] <padan> it should just be a tarball
[10:03] <padan> like vmware-linux-tools.tar.gz
[10:03] <padan> or something
[10:03] <fredl> Hmm
[10:03] <fredl> well I'll figure this one out
[10:03] <padan> just extract that to a dir on your vm's hdd
[10:03] <padan> then run the perl script to install
[10:04] <padan> or
[10:04] <padan> you can prolly dl the tarball right from vmware
[10:04] <padan> somewhere, go have a poke around their website
[10:04] <fredl> aww I'll figure it out, if need be I mount the iso on my host OS, and scp the tarball into the guest OS
[10:04] <bret> hi
[10:05] <kmu> padan, i've poked quite a bit around there site for it and never found it.
[10:05] <MrKeuner> Hi, how can I print to printer ML1710 connected to Dapper B(10.10.10.2), from Dapper A(10.10.10.1)?
[10:05] <Linuturk> I need a tool to scan all the Ip's on my subnet and see what services are running.
[10:05] <bret> i just got dialup to work on ubuntu thanks
[10:05] <soundray> !splash > Bensr20det
[10:05] <soundray> !usplash > Bensr20det
[10:06] <bruenig> !usplash
[10:06] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:06] <Zaggynl> Anyone has a clue Warcraft 3 hicks and stutters why I try to run it via wine?
[10:06] <jbroome> MrKeuner: cups
[10:06] <Zaggynl> *why
[10:06] <kmu> Linutur, look into netstat
[10:06] <hoelk> same question but with stacraft here
[10:06] <hoelk> ;)
[10:06] <bret> use cedega for warcraft it works good
[10:06] <Hooveyy> cedega isnt free :(
[10:07] <padan> http://pubs.vmware.com/server1/vm/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=vm&file=tools_server.4.12.html
[10:07] <MrKeuner> jbroome: yes cups, is installed on both
[10:07] <AskHL> Warcraft works for me in wine
[10:07] <bret> i know but its 5 a month thats not bad
[10:07] <Linuturk> kmu, that's installed by default right? I've tried it, and I can't fine the ip of my wireless router with it
[10:07] <padan> it says just use the iso
[10:07] <AskHL> Zaggynl, maybe I can solve your problem
[10:07] <Scognito> http://www.osdir.com/Article9406.phtml
[10:07] <padan> they may not allow it for dl
[10:07] <AskHL> do you run with the -opengl parameter?
[10:07] <padan> but
[10:07] <Zaggynl> AskHL, cool, tell me
[10:07] <padan> you can always dl the server package
[10:07] <fredl> padan, not rebooting Ubuntu after a massive apt-get dist-upgrade also doesn't really help :P
[10:07] <padan> and extract the linux.iso
[10:07] <kmu> Linuturk, hmm, one sec..
[10:07] <Zaggynl> AskHL, yup been using that since the beginning :)
[10:07] <AskHL> Zaggynl, aaah that's bad then :)
[10:08] <bret> i agree if i can run it native i would
[10:08] <Zaggynl> It's a bad thing I use --opengl?
[10:08] <Linuturk> kmu, I need a summary type program. Scans the subnet for computers and devices, displays the name, services and such
[10:08] <Adam__> Okay, need some networking help: I want to use an Ubuntu desktop as a firewall/web server, so I've installed a second ethernet card (crude ascii network diagram to follow)
[10:08] <BiSk-8> hello, i have a problem with gtkpod, can any1 help?
[10:08] <soundray> !metaquestion
[10:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:08] <AskHL> Zaggynl, no, on the contrary, it is a bad thing that the performance is bad WHILE you use opengl. Because that would have been my suggestion.
[10:08] <bruenig> !anyone
[10:08] <THX-1138> Hi Weber - looks clean to me. dunno. - We talked about xineram last time and it is still being enabled good right?
[10:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:08] <Zaggynl> AskHL, ah okay
[10:08] <fredl> !metaquestion > ubotu
[10:08] <bruenig> soundray, my factoid trigger was more relevant, take that
[10:09] <THX-1138> Weber - You still anted xinerama?
[10:09] <fredl> :P
[10:09] <BiSk-8> ok, can any1 help me with gtkpod, whtn i try to read the itunesdb it sais that the file doesn't exist
[10:09] <BiSk-8> any ideas?
[10:09] <Adam__> (DSLmodem X.1.254)---(eth1 X.1.97 ((ubuntu Comp)) eth0 X.1.96)---Router---other devices.
[10:09] <AskHL> Zaggynl, which graphics adapter do you have? ATI or NVidia or something?
[10:09] <Zaggynl> AskHL, Nvidia
[10:09] <Adam__> I'm having trouble because A) I can't access the router's IP address anymore despite using DHCP on eth1
[10:10] <kmu> Linuturk, well, there is also netcat (nc). it can scan ports very easily. you can set up a script to cycle through ips and ports very easily
[10:10] <Zaggynl> glxinfo | grep direct show me direct rendering works
[10:10] <bret> nvidia here
[10:10] <Adam__> and B) I don't know what gateway address to enter in the router's config
[10:10] <Zaggynl> also, I can record / play sound very well outside wine
[10:10] <AskHL> Zaggynl, hmmm, ok, I made it work with an ATI card. So I guess I can't help so much as I hoped
[10:10] <Zaggynl> np m8 :)
[10:10] <padan> adam, eth1 is connected to the dsl modem, grab an ip with that from the modem.  make sure that you can get on the net from teh ubuntu box
[10:10] <bret> put your router adress
[10:10] <bret> for the gateway
[10:10] <padan> set an ip address on eth0
[10:11] <Weber> THX-1138, Im not sure what you mean ?
[10:11] <Adam__> padan, with you so far
[10:11] <padan> 192.168.?.?
[10:11] <Adam__> ya
[10:11] <padan> 10.?.?.?
[10:11] <Linuturk> kmu, i found nmap in the repo's
[10:11] <padan> something in those ranges
[10:11] <Adam__> 192.168
[10:11] <padan> next
[10:11] <padan> in your picture
[10:11] <padan> why hte other router on the right side of the ubuntu box
[10:11] <padan> your ubuntu box is acting as a router
[10:11] <THX-1138> Weber - Your config file looks okay to me. - dunno what it is.
[10:12] <Adam__> I can't have it in front of the router?
[10:12] <Adam__> (the router's iffy, that's all)
[10:12] <padan> why have the router?
[10:12] <kmu> Linuturk, cool, i'll have to play with that
[10:12] <padan> wifi?
[10:12] <Adam__> The router cause I have 3 other computers to connect via wifi, yes
[10:12] <Nietzche> anyone have any idea where the repos are?
[10:12] <padan> tell the router to bridge the connection
[10:12] <soundray> !repos
[10:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:12] <Weber> THX-1138, ok.. sad.. Im started to be tired of this crap. It just dont wanna do, what I would like it to do. :(
[10:12] <NiteFears> hey
[10:12] <padan> and plug hte cable from the eth0 on ubuntu to a NORMAL port on the router
[10:12] <bruenig> Nietzche, as in where the servers are?
[10:12] <padan> eg. not the 'uplink'
[10:13] <NiteFears> problem: after installing daily ubuntu (with driver fixes), I started getting continuous beep on system start up that lasts until I manually turn it off from the console (very unpleasant). Simple ways of turning pc speaker off (such as "setterm -blength 0") didn't help. How can I turn the speaker off for the duration of boot-up without recompiling the kernel and physically switching off the cord?
[10:13] <Adam__> ooh
[10:13] <padan> you will have to consult your router documentation on how to bridge a connection
[10:13] <Adam__> kk
[10:13] <padan> its different everywhere
[10:13] <Weber> THX-1138, but I dont have any idea what it could be that causes the FPS drop ?
[10:13] <padan> but its usually just picking a few things
[10:13] <Adam__> alright, thanks padan, I'll give this a shot
[10:13] <padan> then you need to install a dhcp server
[10:13] <padan> on the ubuntu box
[10:13] <padan> so that wifi clients can get an ip
[10:14] <Adam__> Ah, I was afraid of that... the router won't do it?
[10:14] <soundray> NiteFears: if "daily ubuntu" means edgy, you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:14] <padan> and then you end up with only one internal network
[10:14] <Weber> THX-1138, Do you have any idea what could causes the big FPS drop ?
[10:14] <padan> adam, it can but its better to do it on teh ubuntu box
[10:14] <padan> its really easy
[10:14] <padan> heh
[10:14] <NiteFears> soundray: ok, thanks
[10:14] <padan> just basically apt-get it
[10:14] <THX-1138> Weber - I am the refugee from AOL remember. What do i know. ask again.
[10:14] <Adam__> alright, i'll give it a shot
[10:14] <padan> and then peek at the config file
[10:14] <padan> and start it
[10:14] <Weber> THX-1138,  ?
[10:14] <kmu> Linuturk, try using `route' to find the ip of your router. it will be listed as the default destination
[10:14] <Weber> THX-1138,  what are you talking about ?
[10:14] <padan> but its not rocket science or anything
[10:15] <tgelter> hey all, how can I log (or find a log) of what goes on before this entry in /var/log/boot :  Oct 15 13:44:24 rcS:  * Reading files needed to boot...       ^[[80G ^M^[[74G[ ok ] 
[10:15] <THX-1138> Weber - You hadn't heard me say that before? - Well i am a refugee from indows and aol.
[10:15] <padan> tgelter, 'dmesg |more'
[10:15] <Adam__> alright, thanks padan... (phone)
[10:15] <padan> np
[10:15] <bruenig> aol, even windows users know better than that
[10:15] <fredl> Weber, FPS? what are you talking about? Mind if I butt in?
[10:15] <padan> frames per second
[10:15] <fredl> Weber, you talking about a gameserver by any chance?
[10:15] <Weber> THX-1138, refugee ?
[10:15] <allz> who was helping me out ? about the xorg.conf keyboard thingi?
[10:15] <bruenig> first person shooter
[10:16] <fredl> Weber, source engine by any chance?
[10:16] <Weber> fredl, Frames Per Second.
[10:16] <Zaggynl> In this context it means Frames Per Second methinks
[10:16] <marc> I cant see my Hard Drives in the Computer icon of nautilus, any ideas? udev and hal are started.
[10:16] <THX-1138> Weber - Also a rabid gamer. notice the missing "w"s  w is up in most games. - worn it out.
[10:16] <padan> marc, are they mounted?
[10:16] <marc> padan: yes, and in fstab
[10:16] <THX-1138> Linux rocks.
[10:16] <fredl> Weber, coz I recently did some remarkable trick on a source server...
[10:16] <padan> no clue then
[10:16] <padan> where di dyou mount them
[10:16] <kmu> yes it does
[10:17] <Weber> fredl, ok. But it dont have anything to do with a server. Its client.
[10:17] <fredl> oh ok
[10:18] <Weber> THX-1138, ok. So you dont know what might could causes the fps drop ?
[10:18] <John2583> so i just installed 6.06 LTS x86 on my SMP system and when it boots it hangs shortly after loading gdm while the cursor is displaying the "time" icon but in recovery mode I can boot fine and then start gdm manually and everything is okay? where should i look to see what is causing hte hang?
[10:18] <marc> I hate this shit when you close an app you loose the clipboard
[10:18] <marc> what is this 1985 ?
[10:19] <NiteFears> I have a more specific question, then: is it possible to either run "modprobe -r pcspkr" on an early boot stage or never load the "pcspkr" kernel module at all?
[10:19] <fredl> eeek. When trying to install the VMWare tools, it needs to recompile some kernel modules
[10:19] <Zaggynl> anyone in here familiar with strace-graph?
[10:19] <soundray> John2583: I would start by looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:19] <fredl> eeeeek. And it has disabled the network interface for the install of the tools, WTF.
[10:19] <John2583> soundray: but i am in X now and it's fine from recovery mode?
[10:20] <tgelter> padan: thank you
[10:20] <fredl> xqz the grammar :P
[10:20] <soundray> NiteFears: you can blacklist it in /etc/hotplug
[10:20] <edaspet> hello
[10:20] <NiteFears> soundray: there's no such file in my system currently. any manual for that?
[10:20] <matthew_> hello all
[10:20] <fredl> I got a feeling this is not good....
[10:20] <edaspet> where do I report bug for the install CD of edgy beta ?
[10:20] <MrKeuner> Does a Dapper A see a printer connected to Dapper B by default? Both are on LAN
[10:21] <edaspet> I didn't even manage to do an installation from scratch (freze at "install" launch, and freeze at partition manager if I launch the install manualy in xterm in root)
[10:21] <soundray> NiteFears: well, that's why I asked you to ask in #ubuntu+1. Dapper still had hotplug remnants, edgy doesn't.
[10:22] <NiteFears> soundray: yikes
[10:22] <NiteFears> soundray: actually, I asked there, no answer. but I'll repeat the second question there, as well, thanks
[10:22] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  there's a page on the wiki about setting that up
[10:22] <MrKeuner> wastrel: but they do not by default right?
[10:22] <MrKeuner> wastrel: Or is it only me
[10:23] <wastrel> MrKeuner: not by default.
[10:23] <wastrel> seemingly for security reasons.
[10:23] <soundray> !bug > edaspet
[10:23] <MrKeuner> wastrel: is it cups' wiki you are mentioning/
[10:23] <edaspet> !bug
[10:23] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[10:24] <edaspet> soundray: tks
[10:24] <Homer> what is the distro after edgy going to be called
[10:24] <THX-1138> Hi ompaul
[10:25] <soundray> MrKeuner: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows (should apply even from dapper)
[10:25] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  this is what i used   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu?highlight=%28print%29
[10:25] <wastrel> my print server is still running breezy.  should work for dapper too i guess :] 
[10:25] <soundray> MrKeuner: I take it back -- wastrel's sounds better
[10:26] <skewh> Hey there, I used to have vsftpd, and I uninstalled it, but when I try to install a different FTP server, it says that "Another FTP daemon is already running". Any idea how to completely shut it down?
[10:26] <NiteFears> I have another question, meanwhile: is there a plugin for .ape files for the xine framework?
[10:26] <LinuXubuntu> hi you guys! I'm a newbie! And I need a little help. I've been using Xubuntu for just a few days, and that is the situation: I have to HDs and I'd like to know how to config Xubuntu do detect and mount my Slave HD automatically. Does anybody can help me?
[10:26] <allz> who was helping me out ? about the xorg.conf keyboard thingi?
[10:26] <fredl> so anybody know why Ubuntu is stuck on 2.6.15 ?
[10:26] <fredl> is that because of the timer issues introduced in 2.6.16?
[10:27] <andresmujica> .
[10:27] <mikael_> hi there how can i compile a package from source?
[10:27] <tritium> fredl: only security fixes for the stable release.  Wait for edgy for 2.6.17
[10:27] <mikael_> i read the doc on ubuntu.com
[10:27] <skewh> Hey there, I used to have vsftpd, and I uninstalled it, but when I try to install a different FTP server, it says that "Another FTP daemon is already running". Any idea how to completely shut it down?
[10:27] <MrKeuner> wastrel: soundray thanks but one last question. To print from Dapper A to Dapper B's printer Do I have to play with settings of Dapper A too? Or will I just change settings with the one with printer?
[10:27] <mikael_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[10:27] <soundray> skewh: don't repeat please.
[10:27] <mikael_> but it won't work
[10:27] <LjL> fredl, i think Ubuntu is simply stuck with the kernel version it was released with. you don't get new versions of things until a new version of Ubuntu comes out
[10:27] <mikael_> no make, no configure :(
[10:27] <allz> Please someone help me .i cant start my ubuntu . i get xorg error :( in my xorg.conf
[10:28] <soundray> skewh: do a 'ps ax | grep ftpd' to check if any ftpd process is in fact running.
[10:28] <tritium> LjL: or security fixes
[10:28] <LjL> allz: please paste the errors you get on the pastebin
[10:28] <allz> how can i dude
[10:28] <allz> ?
[10:28] <whurley> just FYI, for everyone who couldn't make it to ApacheCon US, I've posted the photos people passed along to http://photos.whurley.com enjoy!
[10:28] <allz> ljl i am on the other computer
[10:28] <fredl> tritium, ah I see. I think in 2.6.16 the HZ value (a kernel constant that determines how many interrupts the kernel gets) was changed from like 1000 to 250 or so
[10:28] <LjL> tritium: yeah but the version number stays the same even then AFAIK... don't think a package is ever bumped to a new version just to fix a security problem...?
[10:28] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  the howto i used replaced cupsd.conf on both machines.
[10:29] <LjL> allz: we cannot help you if we don't know what problem you're having.
[10:29] <ba5e> anyone used automatix2 yet? is it worth updating?
[10:29] <allz> what command does allow me to see ,.what is in xorg.conf ,. so i can try to fix it
[10:29] <soundray> MrKeuner: I'd say configure everything from Dapper A
[10:29] <LjL> allz: type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:29] <allz> sudo does not work
[10:29] <soundray> MrKeuner: once you're set up, that is.
[10:29] <allz> :(
[10:30] <pittsorn> Hello. I am unfamiliar with the IRC etiquette. May I just ask a question?
[10:30] <soundray> !automatix
[10:30] <ba5e> pittsorn: of course
[10:30] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:30] <wastrel> yes''] ] 
[10:30] <wastrel> hm :] , even
[10:30] <LinuXubuntu> hi you guys! I'm a newbie! And I need a little help. I've been using Xubuntu for just a few days, and that is the situation: I have to HDs and I'd like to know how to config Xubuntu do detect and mount my Slave HD automatically. Does anybody can help me? Thanks for the attention.
[10:30] <soundray> pittsorn: go
[10:31] <soundray> LinuXubuntu: don't repeat -- rephrase.
[10:31] <pittsorn> Thank you. My problem is this: I have been running Ubuntu for several months on my Presario v2000 laptop with no problems. However, after recently installing some extra RAM, my wireless connection no longer works. It works fine when I boot into windows, but no luck in Ubuntu. Suggestions?
[10:31] <GigaClo1> I have no shutdown button on my system
[10:31] <NiteFears> soundray: I'm afraid no one's answering there. You don't happen to know how to handle it, do you?
[10:31] <ba5e> LinuXubuntu: you neet to edit /etc/fstab
[10:31] <skewh> soundray:  when I do that two entries come up, the first one says /usr/sbin/vsftp and the second one is grep ftpd
[10:31] <Abst> Is there anyway to reload the iPod firmware on Ubuntu?
[10:31] <marc> LinuXubuntu: the ubuntu desktop guide should help you
[10:31] <marc> Abst: no
[10:32] <Abst> Sucjs
[10:32] <marc> Abst: not graphically anyways
[10:32] <Abst> Sucks
[10:32] <LinuXubuntu> soundray, sorry :(
[10:32] <cypher1_h> is 65K colour LCD screen good to watch videos ?
[10:32] <soundray> NiteFears: no, but try a 'find /etc -name blacklist' to see if that turns up anything
[10:32] <Abst> marc: Well, how then
[10:32] <LjL> allz: what does sudo tell you?
[10:32] <marc> cypher1_h: is not about colors
[10:32] <marc> cypher1_h: lcds have worse color quality, and worse refresh rate
[10:32] <LjL> !doesn't work > allz
[10:32] <soundray> skewh: are you sure you've removed vsftpd in full?
[10:32] <marc> Abst: google
[10:32] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows of frontend to strace?
[10:32] <cypher1_h> hey skewh
[10:32] <Zaggynl> I tried googling, but couldn't find anything
[10:33] <david_> does anyone know why democracy player can play video that mplayer or totem can't?
[10:33] <skewh> cypher1_h:  hey there
[10:33] <marc> david_: codecs..
[10:33] <skewh> soundray:  I went into the synaptic panel and clicked remove vsftpd
[10:33] <soundray> LinuXubuntu: you have to format your extra hard disk if it hasn't got a filesystem yet. Then you need an entry for it in /etc/fstab
[10:33] <TeraClon> When I go to shut down dialog box I have no shutdown or restart buttons just hibernate
[10:33] <david_> yea, I downloaded all the special codecs
[10:33] <NiteFears> soundray: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:33] <david_> like ubuntuguide said
[10:33] <wastrel> Zaggynl:  try searching freshmeat.net
[10:33] <Zaggynl> oki
[10:33] <david_> but there are still some videos that only democracy player seems to have the codecs for
[10:34] <soundray> NiteFears: have a look at that, see if you can make an entry for your unwanted module
[10:34] <david_> is there a way to get the others to use the same codecs as democracy is using?
[10:34] <NiteFears> soundray: thanks, will try
[10:34] <cypher1_h> marc i was looking at an unbranded thing similar to apple ipod video
[10:34] <soundray> skewh: did you hit Apply after that?
[10:34] <drky> has anyone been able to get photoshop running on linux?
[10:34] <LinuXubuntu> Thank you guys, I'll look for this tips!
[10:34] <marc> cypher1_h: oh if its low quality crap video then dont worry, that is fine
[10:34] <skewh> soundray:  yes I did
[10:34] <marc> david_: what video files are you talking about?
[10:35] <cypher1_h> skewh are you still having problems with vsftpd ? hasn't local_umask worked for you ?
[10:35] <marc> david_: mplayer should be able to handle anything you throw at it, except encrypted wmv9 bullshit
[10:35] <david_> ok
[10:35] <david_> and just so I can make sure
[10:35] <cypher1_h> marc not low quality videos.. so nice movies
[10:35] <poncho1> !shorewall
[10:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[10:35] <fredl_> jay
[10:35] <david_> what packages will contain all the extra codecs?
[10:35] <fredl_> running xchat inside my 1600x1200 virtual machine!
[10:35] <fredl_> this rockz
[10:35] <marc> cypher1_h: is not as much as the colors, but the refresh rate and what hardware there is behind it. Also different codecs require different cpu usage
[10:35] <cypher1_h> !codec
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <skewh> cypher1_h: I'm trying to use proftpd with the xampp package, I didn't realize that a xampp for linux existed, and I got it to install and it works except when it tried to enable proftpd, it says "Another ftp daemon is already running."
[10:36] <NewNick> is anyone else having trouble with the cd for dapper?
[10:36] <TeraClon> can anyone help me i don't have a shutdown option in the shutdown screen
[10:36] <marc> david_: read the ubuntu guide, read about why gstreamer is still in development and doesnt have eveyrhting. In all cases check vlc, mplayer, and compile them with w32codecs and all of it. Its just googling
[10:36] <skewh> cypher1_h: I think I uninstalled vsftpd via synaptic but I guess not
[10:37] <david_> ok, thanks
[10:37] <soundray> TeraClon: I think you have to be an admin user to have a shutdown option.
[10:37] <marc> TeraClon: adduser youruser admin, or adm, cant remember
[10:37] <marc> TeraClon: as root, anyhow, that should be enabled by default
[10:37] <NewNick> my dapper cds will not load or install it what is wrong?
[10:37] <soundray> TeraClon: it's also possible that you have a second session running on another vc
[10:38] <cypher1_h> marc so the unbranded thing's hardware should be good enough rather than me worrying on 65K color right ?
[10:38] <soundray> TeraClon: you can force a shutdown with 'sudo halt'
[10:38] <Wazm> sup?
[10:38] <allz> please type the video card's identifir what to there ? .i am reconfiguring my xserver
[10:38] <NiteFears> soundray: where would then be an appropriate place to put "modprobe pcspkr", so it gets loaded on a later stage of the start-up?
[10:39] <skewh> soundray:  also, when I actually go to /usr/sbin/vsftpd, the file does not exist
[10:39] <marc> cypher1_h: it depends, you need to see the specs, the processor, what video you will be handling. Again, it is not about color, and btw 65k is the same thing you have on any normal lcd monitor. Also, how does this relate to ubunut?
[10:39] <cypher1_h> skewh you had removed vsftpd because of the problem you were facing ?
[10:39] <marc> allz: just the name, you can put anything in there
[10:39] <Homer> hey what is the difference between Ubuntu Christian Edition and Ubuntu itself?
[10:39] <skewh> cypher1_h: Xampp uses proftpd that's why
[10:39] <cypher1_h> marc sorry i just thought of asking :)
[10:39] <soundray> skewh: try 'sudo killall vsftpd'
[10:40] <rasket> hi i just installed ubuntu but cant start sudo needed applications, any ideas?
[10:40] <skewh> looks like that worked
[10:40] <soundray> NiteFears: /etc/modules (again, that's a dapper answer that doesn't necessarily apply to edgy)
[10:40] <fredl> Hmm, let's see if I can install the VMWare tools on my Nexenta VM too
[10:40] <soundray> NiteFears: just add the module name, not modprobe
[10:40] <pittsorn> Where should I start looking for a solution to problem involving a newly installed piece of hardware (RAM) that appears to cause a previous piece of hardware (wireless card) to no longer function? Both pieces of hardware function properly in Windows.
[10:40] <Wazm> I'll find out
[10:40] <skewh> Ok, it worked
[10:40] <EE_pi> how do i change the font for the applications, places, system taskbar?
[10:40] <marc> EE_pi: read the ubuntu desktop guide
[10:41] <soundray> pittsorn: that's a strange story. Does it work again if you remove the new RAM?
[10:41] <marc> EE_pi: it should bein your system-> preferences
[10:41] <skewh> thank you everyone for your help!
[10:41] <marc> EE_pi: research before you ask
[10:41] <pittsorn> soundray: yes
[10:41] <NiteFears> soundray: thanks a lot, I'll reboot now :)
[10:41] <wastrel> memtest
[10:41] <wastrel> kernel support for high ram?
[10:42] <THX-1138> pittsorn - You havebooted into windows since opeing the case? - so  can rule out a loose WiFi card.
[10:42] <allz> ljl can i pm you .so you can help me setup my xserver .the next part is .enter of amount memory ,in kb. video cards
[10:42] <tgelter> hey all, I'm having some dmraid issues...seems like it's only from one partition though...here is one of the applicable lines: 295. [17179575.464000]  Buffer I/O error on device sda4, logical block 386572093   the contents of dmesg can be found at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26916/
[10:42] <allz> i have video card gforece fx 6600
[10:42] <pittsorn> THX-1138: correct
[10:42] <Willster> hey....this is probably a really easy question but in KDE how do you bind the windows key to the K menu?
[10:42] <pittsorn> wastrel: 'memtest' addressed to me? if so could you please elaborate?
[10:43] <LjL> allz: leave it blank. and just prefix my nickname when you're talking to me -- i'll do the same. this way we won't miss each other's messages, and it's almost like a private query, except the rest of channel can chirp in with advice as well
[10:43] <THX-1138> pittsorn - Thats is hard. - what do the two have in common.
[10:43] <pittsorn> THX-1138: I really don't have any idea.
[10:44] <lufis> Where are x11 drivers located?
[10:44] <soundray> pittsorn: there is a memtest86 boot option in your grub menu. You can use that to check the RAM for errors.
[10:44] <wastrel> pittsorn:  there's a boot option to run a memtest
[10:44] <wastrel> that :] 
[10:44] <EE_pi> marc: cant find anything, my problem is a little more entailed, under both xorg and xgl i have fonts set to Sans 10, but the taskbar looks different in xgl compared to xorg, what i want to know is if systems->pref->fonts is definitely the right place to alter the font for that taskbar?
[10:44] <pittsorn> ok, I will do that. Is that likely to be a problem though?
[10:44] <shadow420> do any of know how to compile the Apple IIgs Emulator Kegs 0.91?
[10:44] <allz> ljl use karnel fram buffer ? yes or no
[10:44] <marc> EE_pi: dont know, dont care for XGL, ask in #xgl maybe
[10:45] <soundray> pittsorn: let's say it would be a very unusual symptom for a wireless card to stop working because of it.
[10:45] <LjL> allz: leave all the default. just change the stuff concerning screen resolutions -- there you will want to choose the resolution you prefer (and the one your monitor will support)
[10:45] <THX-1138> pittsorn - pittsorn - i am out of clues but filled with curiosity. - does ubuntu see the card is installed?
[10:45] <pittsorn> THX-1138: yes
[10:45] <wastrel> pittsorn:  you might want to poke around in your bios...
[10:45] <wastrel> not sure.
[10:45] <fredl> padan you there?
[10:45] <pittsorn> wastrel: ok, I will give that a try also
[10:45] <NewNick> can anyone help me im trying to upgrade to 6.06 from hoary hedgehog
[10:46] <soundray> wastrel: with a soldering iron?
[10:46] <allz> ljl it asks me .about . karnel buffer .what do i chooce .yes or no?
[10:46] <pittsorn> ha
[10:46] <LjL> allz: leave all the default. just change the stuff concerning screen resolutions -- there you will want to choose the resolution you prefer (and the one your monitor will support)
[10:46] <wastrel> did you upgrade your kernel and fail to reboot until you installed the new ram?
[10:46] <shadow420> do any of know how to compile the Apple IIgs Emulator Kegs 0.91?
[10:46] <wastrel> & thus are running a new kernel now...
[10:47] <TeraClon> is there a better program for displaying modem connections than the default?
[10:47] <soundray> wastrel: he made it work again by removing the newly added RAM
[10:47] <wastrel> ah
[10:47] <THX-1138> wastrel - does linux keep a bios checksum?
[10:47] <wastrel> dunno
[10:48] <THX-1138> soundray - Bad RAM do you think?
[10:48] <soundray> THX-1138: no, I'd be very surprised
[10:48] <soundray> THX-1138: otoh, stranger things have happened...
[10:48] <allz> please select you keyboard variant ,okei what should i write there?
[10:49] <allz> i am sorry for askin newbe question but i am from iceland :S
[10:49] <soundray> allz: that's all right then, Icelanders can ask newbie questions ;)
[10:49] <shadow420> I have a question?
[10:49] <THX-1138> soundray The card is seen but the ram isn't - maybe the ram wasn't locked into the motherboard.
[10:50] <pedro> hello debo
[10:50] <wastrel> himem kernel support?
[10:50] <pittsorn> actually I believe the RAM is recognized
[10:50] <soundray> pittsorn: how much RAM do you have in total?
[10:50] <soundray> shadow420: just ask
[10:50] <pittsorn> 1GB + 256
[10:51] <pittsorn> the 1GB is new
[10:51] <soundray> wastrel: stock ubuntu should deal with that, shouldn't it?
[10:51] <shadow420> how do I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator Kegs 0.91
[10:51] <Rico-> this is not really the right place, but any idea how i can get the current user's home directory in a perl script?
[10:51] <THX-1138> and soundray Thanks for being here to answer questions. :)
[10:51] <soundray> THX-1138: glad to be helpful if I can
[10:52] <jojoman02> www.debget.net <- just found it, pretty nice :).
[10:52] <scobie> please select you keyboard variant ,okei what should i write there? .i am setting up my xserver so i need help
[10:52] <soundray> shadow420: there are some generic instructions for compiling programs in ubuntu:
[10:52] <soundray> !compile
[10:52] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:52] <NiteFears> soundray: it didn't work. I first tried to boot with "blacklist" and "modules" files modified exactly as we said, it didn't work. afterwards I commented out the entry in the "modules", and it didn't work, too. the beeping sound was there when I booted, but this time I wasn't even able to stop it, until I issued "modprobe pcspkr" and pressed tab key in the console (which is how I stop the thing)
[10:53] <whyso> hi, i am trying to use the liveCD, but when i get to the installation menu and try to check the disk or start/install, it just says loading indefinently, any tips?
[10:53] <shadow420> k I will look around
[10:53] <edaspet> How can I trigger a "text install" from the edgy beta CD ?
[10:53] <Flannel> edaspet: get the alternate CD
[10:53] <shadow420> !packages
[10:53] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[10:53] <soundray> NiteFears: this is weird stuff -- I'd report a bug.
[10:53] <edaspet> Flannel: ok
[10:53] <THX-1138> pittsorn -my money is on the ram being unlocked in the motherboard or *maybe* a mismatch between the old ram and the new ram.
[10:54] <soundray> shadow420: have you seen ubotu
[10:54] <soundray> shadow420: have you seen ubotu's line ^^?
[10:54] <pittsorn> ok, so maybe try removing the old RAM and see what happens?
[10:54] <Flannel> scobie: you'll need to figure out what sort of keyboard you have.
[10:54] <gizmatix> hello
[10:54] <tgelter> hey all, I'm having some dmraid issues...seems like it's only from one partition though...here is one of the applicable lines: 295. [17179575.464000]  Buffer I/O error on device sda4, logical block 386572093   the contents of dmesg can be found at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26916/     this all started when I upgraded from breezy to edgy ubuntu and by doing so, upgraded dmraid to version 1.0.0.rc11
[10:54] <soundray> pittsorn: might be a way forward.
[10:54] <whyso>  hi, i am trying to use the liveCD, but when i get to the installation menu and try to check the disk or start/install, it just says loading indefinently, any tips?
[10:55] <pittsorn> ok, I have no other ideas, so why not.
[10:55] <fredl> Hmm running higher resolutions than 1280x1024 makes my VM screen flicker
[10:55] <scobie> fiannel what means variant ?
[10:55] <scobie> i just wanna know what means
[10:55] <knoppix> is there somebosy from italy_
[10:55] <NiteFears> soundray: I've searched google - no one seems to have seen this besides myself =( and as this is my first experience with Ubuntu, I don't hurry to get into bug tracking. but looks like I don't have any choice
[10:55] <jbroome> whyso: bad burn?
[10:55] <shadow420> !repositories
[10:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:56] <gizmatix> interest
[10:56] <THX-1138> pittsorn - If on boot up your bios shows the correct amount of ram. my theory is trashed. reboot once and read the bios entry.
[10:56] <pittsorn> THX-1138: it does
[10:56] <fredl> I know this is wildly offtopic guys, but I'm running an XP instance in my VM (VMWare is running on Ubuntu though!!:) does anybody happen to know how I can change Windows XP to use a different language altogether?
[10:56] <shadow420> !easysorce
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysorce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <pittsorn> show the correct amount that is
[10:56] <jbroome> it can show the right amount of ram, and still be flaky
[10:56] <shadow420> !easysource
[10:56] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:56] <whyso> jbroome: i tried multiple programs/times
[10:56] <jbroome> run memtest86 from a live cd
[10:56] <THX-1138> pittsorn - Next theory please!
[10:56] <Flannel> !it
[10:56] <pittsorn> ha
[10:56] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:56] <soundray> NiteFears: also, try the other channel again. I know it's less busy and less responsive, but you have a better chance of running into the guy that knows something about these things.
[10:56] <fredl> coz mine is kinda running... ehr.. in portuguese :)
[10:57] <whyso> i tried to check CD for errors but that froze too
[10:57] <fredl> since I happened to be stupid enough to buy a portuguese laptop :P
[10:57] <NiteFears> soundray: thanks for your help
[10:57] <knoppix> dall-italia nessuno
[10:58] <tich> has anyone had any luck with the game TORCS? synaptic won't install the torcs-data-tracks properly.properly
[10:58] <pak-x_> hello
[10:58] <tich> (just as i can't type properly)
[10:58] <whyso> should i try the alternative CD?
[10:59] <Flannel> scobie: it's asking for your keyboard type, so it knows which keys are which
[10:59] <tich> what is a good racing game that is easy to install?
[10:59] <Flannel> whyso: can't hurt.  Burn slow, 4x
[10:59] <mikael_> how can i compile a source package?
[10:59] <josh_> network question -- can i connect to my ubuntu box from outside the network while at a hotel? say having it mounted in fstab... if i leave my house and go somewhere else and hookup, as long as i have my external ip loaded in fstab it will mount my drive locally correct?
[10:59] <soundray> tich: planetpenguin-racer
[10:59] <scobie> how to start my xserver with command ?
[10:59] <mikael_> i tried the ways descriped on the ubuntu page
[10:59] <mikael_> but with no result
[10:59] <soundray> scobie: startx
[11:00] <NiteFears> ...plugin
[11:00] <mikael_> are there any other how tos?
[11:00] <pittsorn> Maybe describing my problem further will help: The first time I installed the RAM, my keyboard wireless light flickered for a second, but did not come on, when I brought wlan0 up. In Windows, and when I removed the RAM, it lit fine. After reinstalling the RAM, it does not even flicker when I try to bring wlan0 up.
[11:00] <whyso> thanks
[11:00] <tich> soundray, great. i'm getting it now.
[11:00] <THX-1138> whyso - Is you machine older than about 5 years? - Wondering if it is a problem  with dma support?
[11:01] <wildchild> can someone help me install libyine-extracodecs?
[11:01] <wildchild> after I added multiverse to my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26915/ I decided to install libxine-extracodecs via apt but there were errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26918/
[11:02] <Flannel> wildchild: did you sudo apt-get update after changing your sources?
[11:02] <wildchild> yes
[11:02] <scobie> fiannel :S i dont know my keyboard variant
[11:03] <uberspaced> well, renaming the file to 00-firewall in if-up.d worked.
[11:03] <scobie> i will try on nat
[11:03] <uberspaced> thanks for the help.
[11:03] <Flannel> scobie: google around for it, I'm not familiar with icelandic keyboards, but I'm sure it'll be pretty easy to find
[11:03] <shadow420> where do I move my new sources list to overwirte the old on
[11:03] <Flannel> shadow420: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:03] <lufis> Greetings fellow geeks. Anyone know where X11 drivers are?
[11:03] <GhostFreeman> who's running Beryl
[11:04] <shadow420> opk that
[11:04] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: #ubuntu+1
[11:04] <FireRabbit> GhostFreeman: I am
[11:04] <Flannel> wildchild: try installing libmad0 on it's own
[11:04] <GhostFreeman> and who can tell me the command to disable the shift-backspace death trap
[11:04] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: er, sorry, #ubuntu-xgl
[11:04] <FireRabbit> lufis: what are you trying to do?
[11:05] <winterweaver> hey everyone ^_^
[11:05] <lufis> FireRabbit: There is a thread on Ubuntuforums that details how to set up a new i810 driver. I'd like to try it out, but alas, the path in the tutorial doesn't exist on my system
[11:05] <wildchild> Flannel it doesn't work
[11:05] <FireRabbit> lufis: whats the url to that thread?
[11:05] <THX-1138> GhostFreeman - control+alt+backspace?
[11:05] <winterweaver> !samba
[11:05] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:05] <FireRabbit> GhostFreeman: try running
[11:05] <FireRabbit> xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace Delete"
[11:05] <FireRabbit> #xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"
[11:05] <lufis> FireRabbit: Well, it's a long read. It starts about halfway into it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1621129#post1621129
[11:05] <FireRabbit> er, one of the two
[11:06] <knoppix> contattatemi privatamente se siete italiani
[11:06] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[11:06] <Flannel> !it
[11:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:06] <GhostFreeman> will I need to do this every time I run XGL
[11:06] <knoppix> ok
[11:06] <knoppix> so
[11:06] <FireRabbit> GhostFreeman: you can add it to your gnome session
[11:06] <knoppix> I am trying knoppix
[11:06] <lufis> FireRabbit: It says to cd /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ but there is no "modules" dir in my x11R6/lib
[11:06] <knoppix> I need to install skype
[11:06] <pittsorn> wastrel, THX-1138, (soundray): Thanks for considering my problem. I will run memtest and such, and maybe try back again some other time.
[11:07] <knoppix> but I need root authorizzation
[11:07] <knoppix> so I don-t imagine what can be the password
[11:07] <scobie> fiannel like this -> http://www.goodtyping.com/teclatICE.htm ?
[11:07] <knoppix> it is a live OS
[11:07] <Flannel> knoppix: We can tell you how to do it on ubuntu, you'd have to ask the knoppix people (#knoppix)
[11:07] <domoking> videolan the best player for ubuntu?
[11:08] <david_> I just installed an airlink AWLH3026, I found some info about it with linux here: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Airlink+Tech I can't seem to get it to work....
[11:08] <knoppix> i am really new in everything is linux
[11:08] <Flannel> knoppix: /join #knoppix
[11:08] <knoppix> I already tried ubuntu, I think is one of the best
[11:08] <FireRabbit> GhostFreeman: actually, you might be able to just run 'xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us'
[11:08] <knoppix> so, I wanted come here
[11:08] <Flannel> scobie: yeah, except you'll need a name for that layout
[11:09] <Flannel> knoppix: we don't know anything about knoppix, you'll need to ask them for help with their OS
[11:09] <knoppix> anyway I try to find out knoppix channel
[11:09] <knoppix> thanks to everybody anyway
[11:09] <GhostFreeman> ok
[11:09] <scobie> fiannel so it means i need to find .what the layout name is ?
[11:09] <scobie> or can i creat my own name over it?
[11:09] <winterweaver> !samba
[11:09] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:10] <domoking> what player do you guys use to watch divx movies and such?
[11:10] <david_> I just installed an airlink AWLH3026, I found some info about it with linux here: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Airlink+Tech I can't seem to get it to work.... Anything?
[11:10] <david_> domoking: mplayer
[11:10] <domoking> thanks
[11:10] <lufis> domoking: You'll need to install non-default codecs first.
[11:10] <Xenguy> domoking: I use vlc mostly, but some .wmv files seem to need gxine
[11:10] <domoking> non-default codecs
[11:10] <domoking> i can get that off synpatics right?
[11:10] <Xenguy> yep
[11:11] <lufis> domoking: One sec
[11:11] <Xenguy> domoking: there's a wiki page
[11:11] <Xenguy> !codecs
[11:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:11] <david_> domoking http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[11:11] <lufis> domoking: Ah, they beat me to it.
[11:11] <domoking> lol
[11:11] <david_> heh
[11:11] <domoking> sweet thanks guys
[11:11] <david_> sure
[11:12] <david_> anyone got help for my wireless?
[11:12] <david_> I just installed an airlink AWLH3026, I found some info about it with linux here: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Airlink+Tech I can't seem to get it to work.... Anything?
[11:12] <pak-x_> i have a problem. i am using ubuntu since this day, but he just accept a resolution at 640*480, what can i do, that a can use 1280*800?
[11:13] <THX-1138> !display
[11:13] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:13] <pak-x_> thank you
[11:13] <Xenguy> david_: you should report error messages, or specific issues/clues
[11:13] <david_> ok
[11:13] <Xenguy> david_: I don't run wireless so I can't help you more with this one
[11:13] <GhostFreeman> ok half the keybindings for beryl have just stopped working
[11:13] <domoking> ok i got a quick problem i type in that sudo command and i get this > symbol
[11:14] <scobie> fiannel so it means i need to find .what the layout name is ? OR CAN I CREAT MY OWN NAME OVER IT?
[11:14] <Flannel> scobie: no, you need to figure out what it's named (or more specifically, what linux calls it)
[11:14] <lmosher> Sound on .avi file I have makes everyone sound crazy.. Can sort of hear what they're saying, but it sound like a demonic distortion. Any ideas?
[11:14] <domoking> david: can you help me out with the error? I'm trying to type in that sudo command from the link
[11:15] <Xenguy> domoking: what are you typing exactly?
[11:15] <domoking> one sec
[11:15] <THX-1138> david_ - hen you get it working use a fixed ip address. some inexpensive cards (mine) make ubuntu stall on boot up press ctrl-c if you need it.
[11:15] <domoking> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \
[11:15] <david_> k
[11:15] <Xenguy> domoking: remove the '\'
[11:15] <Flannel> scobie: isn't there a list?
[11:16] <xst> I have a strang sound recording problem. When I speak into my microphone I can hear my voice loud and clear in the speakes. But for some reason I cannot record any sound from the microphone. What to do?
[11:16] <AdamDH> hey any one got DVB wokring on Linux?
[11:16] <domoking> Xenguy: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:16] <domoking> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:16] <Flannel> domoking: close synaptic/adept/update-manager and try again
[11:16] <Xenguy> domoking: it is open elsewhere; shut it down, or use the existing one (if that makes sense)
[11:17] <domoking> xenguy: i'm not sure how to open the existing one I'll just reboot
[11:17] <domoking> xenguy: thanks
[11:17] <dmitriy> im having trouble viewing video on video out TV. The video ends up being all cropped and impossible to watch it. I had it before and then i renstalled ubuntu. Could anyone help me please
[11:17] <Xenguy> domoking: that will work
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> FireRabbit
[11:17] <Xenguy> domoking: yw
[11:17] <scobie> fiannel found it :) -> XkbLayout
[11:18] <GhostFreeman> loading the xmodmap.us has disabled about all my Beryl hotkeys, how can I fix this
[11:18] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl
[11:19] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: this is not the correct place to ask
[11:19] <FireRabbit> yeah better ask in there, i dont know
[11:19] <josh_> how do i find out the uid of a user?
[11:19] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: (or if youre using edgy, #ubuntu+1 is another choice)
[11:19] <FireRabbit> josh_: id username
[11:19] <GhostFreeman> ok, but i've been asking there for a while now
[11:19] <scobie> fiannel what to do ."the keyboard options"
[11:19] <scobie> i dont know what that means :S
[11:19] <whyso> the alternative CDs only difference is that its text based install?
[11:20] <wildchild> has anyone simmilar problam that I have. I just installed kubuntu 6.10 and when I tryed intstall libxine-extracodecs occured problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26918/
[11:20] <winterweaver> !samba
[11:20] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:20] <lukus001> I recently changed motherboards and now my linux system doesnt detet my cd drive? how can i get it back?
[11:20] <josh_> if i change the uid of a user to 502 (like it is on mywifes mac) will that screw up anything?
[11:20] <jrib> wildchild: you are missing some repositories.  Can you pastebin your sources.list
[11:21] <alex_> Can anyone help me with a screen saver issue?  It does not work at all!
[11:21] <wildchild> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26915/
[11:21] <dmitriy> im having trouble viewing video on video out TV. The video ends up being all cropped and impossible to watch it. I had it before and then i renstalled ubuntu. Could anyone help me please
[11:21] <jrib> wildchild: you have the main repository commented (as well as others)
[11:22] <domoking> can someone paste me the link for the wiki codecs?
[11:22] <whyso> whats the differnece between normal and LIVE cds
[11:22] <jrib> wildchild: are you comfortable editing that file yourself, or want some help?
[11:22] <winterweaver> !codec
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <jrib> ubotu: tell domoking about codecs
[11:22] <scobie> i have reconfigured my xserver so does that mean i have to .reinstall the video card driver ?
[11:22] <wildchild> jrib: don't know which are main
[11:22] <winterweaver> !mp3
[11:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:22] <lukus001> LIVE cd let you run the OS (linux) off the CD whereas normal disk let you install the linux system to the HDD only
[11:22] <wildchild> jrb: a little help would be great
[11:22] <alex_> For some reason my screensaver stop working completely.. can anyone help me?
[11:23] <whyso> i mean normal and alternative CD
[11:23] <visik7> anyone know a chm 2 pdf converter ?
[11:23] <jrib> wildchild: lines 2 and 4 have the main and restricted repos.  lines 9 and 11 have the dapper-updates, 34 and 37 give you security updates
[11:23] <jojoman02> how do you make a ""press any key to continue"" pause in bash???
[11:23] <visik7> jojoman02: read
[11:24] <jrib> wildchild: to edit the file, just opena a terminal and run 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'.  Then remove the initial # sign in front of those lines.  Save the file.  The run 'sudo apt-get update'
[11:24] <Kameli> is there any way to know my CPU temperature?
[11:24] <alex_> Please Help! For some reason my screensaver stop working completely.. can anyone help me?
[11:24] <visik7> Kameli: acpi or lmsensors
[11:26] <wildchild> jrib: tnx (I use kubuntu: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list)
[11:26] <jrib> wildchild: oh right
[11:26] <wildchild> jrib: can I do sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:26] <domoking> jrib: i am getting this error after I did tried to get the codec "Reading package lists... Done
[11:26] <wildchild> couse I use beta version
[11:26] <domoking> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:26] <domoking> Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another pac kage.
[11:26] <domoking> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:26] <domoking> is only available from another source
[11:26] <domoking> E: Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg has no installation candidate
[11:26] <domoking> "
[11:26] <jrib> wildchild: sudo apt-get update
[11:26] <Hieronymus> After installing an update and rebooting, I can't connect to the network anymore (Edgy)
[11:27] <jrib> wildchild: upgrade will upgrade your packages, update will refresh the package list
[11:27] <domoking> I typed in "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base"
[11:27] <jrib> domoking: please don't paste here.  Use a pastebin.  Have you enabled multiverse?
[11:27] <jrib> domoking: multiverse (and universe)
[11:27] <RadiantFire> Hieronymus: #ubuntu+1 I will help you there if you want
[11:27] <domoking> jrib: sorry about that. i dont think so. How do enable mulitverse?
[11:27] <jrib> ubotu: tell domoking about repos
[11:28] <wildchild> jrib: what about sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (since I have unstable version)
[11:28] <jrib> wildchild: if you are running edgy, then you should dist-upgrade until the stable release.  dist-upgrade can basically remove packages while upgrade can't.  'man apt-get' has a good description of the difference
[11:29] <wildchild> jrib: tnx again
[11:29] <jrib> wildchild: np
[11:29] <thjbr> Como se grava CDs e DVDs no Ubuntu?
[11:29] <jrib> !es
[11:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:30] <jrib> !pt
[11:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:30] <jrib> oops
[11:30] <Amaranth> holycow: ping?
[11:30] <domoking> !pastebin
[11:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:31] <holycow> Amaranth, i'm here
[11:31] <holycow> msg
[11:32] <josh_> ok question... how do i completely share out my nfs share...?
[11:32] <domoking> jrib: do i need to add Canonical Commercial Repositories?
[11:32] <domoking> jrib: i added multiverse already
[11:32] <nevermind> hi, anyone here?
[11:32] <josh_> i keep getting errors from client computers about bad permissions
[11:32] <jrib> domoking: you need universe for the packages you wanted before, you don't need commercial
[11:33] <josh_> anyone?
[11:34] <M_Fatih> hi all..
[11:34] <pak-x> !display
[11:34] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:35] <thjbr> How I burn CDs and DVDs in ubuntu?
[11:35] <arepie> !ati
[11:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:35] <M_Fatih> i want to format my hfs+ partition, or clean up all files in my hfs+ partition.. but i don't want to compile my kernel.. how can i format my hfs+ partition? or mount +write hfs+ partition
[11:35] <winterweaver> >.<
[11:35] <arepie> thjbr: just insert a blank cd, and see if it detects
[11:36] <thjbr> arepie: I not have anyone in this time, I'd want to make a project
[11:37] <nevermind> !gdm
[11:37] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[11:37] <thjbr> !CD
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <rambo3> !boring
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <winterweaver> can someone please help me >.<
[11:38] <josh_> exit
[11:38] <next_level> hello is someone good in ubuntu installs ?
[11:38] <winterweaver> I can't connect to my buddy's samba network
[11:38] <winterweaver> and I wanna copy some things from him
[11:38] <thjbr> Como gravar CD e DVD no Ubuntu
[11:39] <anubuntu> hello, Grub isnt working so well, wondering how I reinstall it (I cant boot anything but live cds, on the ubuntu one now)
[11:39] <next_level> erm, is there a helper here?
[11:39] <anubuntu> I have ubuntu installed already, and would like to set up grub to boot to that.
[11:40] <rambo3> !doesn't work
[11:40] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:40] <finalbeta> anubuntu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42053 << last post. Make sure you set up the menu.lst and then reinstall grub (if needed), might be enough to edit menu.lst on the hd with the live cd
[11:40] <mathieu> grub-install to install the boot-sector
[11:40] <winterweaver> can someone please help me >.<
[11:40] <winterweaver> can someone please help me >.<
[11:40] <winterweaver> I can't connect to my buddy's samba network
[11:41] <rambo3> winterweaver, stop spaming whats the problem
[11:41] <cbx33> hi guys if I wanted to remove all pacakges that were install fro ma certain repo...is that possible?
[11:41] <winterweaver> rambo3, soz... was a accidental spam...
[11:41] <next_level> finalbeta, when trying to install ubuntu i get stuck at i"starting enterprise volume management system"
[11:42] <finalbeta> never heared of that next_level , sry can't help
[11:42] <next_level> some of you pleasee?
[11:42] <winterweaver> rambo3, I can't connect to my friends win network (samba), and I've tried almost everthing, I'm still a bit newb
[11:43] <elias_> what is the best (least amount of user interaction) method to be able to boot into one dapper and one edgy installation on one disk? (seperate/shared boot part, ...)
[11:44] <rambo3> winterweaver, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224019
[11:44] <winterweaver> tx
[11:44] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[11:45] <marcin_ant> is this possible to install firefox 2.x in dapper?
[11:45] <marcin_ant> are there any unofficial packages?
[11:45] <rambo3> elias_, leave grub at dapper , shared swap and /home
[11:46] <elias_> rambo3: that's not the issue. I want to know how to setup grub, so I don't have to edit the entries for one of these OSes by hand.
[11:46] <ruzgar> how can I share files with other linux systems ?
[11:46] <ruzgar> which protocol samba ?
[11:47] <domoking> exit
[11:47] <slop2> question : i got this message during ./configure : checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you must specify one    ---what do i do??
[11:48] <nevermind> ruzgar: yes, samba
[11:48] <ruzgar> ok
[11:48] <next_level> when trying to install ubuntu i get stuck at i"starting enterprise volume management system"
[11:49] <rambo3> next_level, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/32446
[11:49] <PhiBerOpTIc> help i just sudo chmod 777 / by accendent
[11:49] <next_level> but i didnt update
[11:50] <Paddy_EIRE>  guys during enemy territory uncompression i get "The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1" any ideas
[11:50] <ircer> ok, so i'm running edgy beta and chroot complains: "cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied", i'm root. What gives?
[11:51] <Paddy_EIRE> oh, and how to disable the root password when I am finished
[11:51] <ircer> Paddy_EIRE: passwd -l root
[11:51] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[11:52] <pak-x> .
[11:52] <next_level> rambo3, ajuta-ma frate
[11:52] <Abst> Does gtkpod freeze just after finishing transferring to the iPod for anyone else
[11:52] <Paddy_EIRE>  guys during enemy territory uncompression i get "The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1" any ideas
[11:53] <pak-x> !display
[11:53] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:53] <nevermind> is there anyway to check if ubuntu is using dual core on my penitum d processor?
[11:53] <jaksh_eet> So which linux beta driver is best for AGP 6600 GT card? I am wanting to install Ubuntu AMD64 Edgy
[11:54] <jaksh_eet> and cedega
[11:54] <Pierre> nevermind: cat /proc/cpuinfo should list 2 cpu
[11:54] <PhiBerOpTIc> does anyone have any answers to fix a file system after sudo CHMOD 777 /
[11:54] <mathieu> PhiBerOpTIc: backups
[11:54] <tritium> PhiBerOpTIc: don't do that to begin with
[11:54] <Abst>  /whois Abst
[11:54] <Abst> Sorry
[11:55] <ircer> PhiBerOpTIc: depends if you used -r option
[11:55] <nevermind> Pierre: it does :) ty
[11:55] <rambo3> PhiBerOpTIc, there was someone here with same problem . solution was to add user account higher then root and fix it , dont remember the rest
[11:55] <kooby-Ushluntu> hey guys
[11:55] <jaksh_eet> howdy
[11:56] <PhiBerOpTIc> well i did not backup but my very important data / programs /music / videos are on a second disk
[11:56] <PhiBerOpTIc> i did use the -r
[11:56] <kooby-Ushluntu> im having a bit of a lame problem at the moment, i need to update gaim without uninstalling the desktop...
[11:56] <mathieu> PhiBerOpTIc: that chmod doesn't brake anything, does it?
[11:56] <filipe__> Hi I have a strange problem with Ubuntu live CD. If i boot normally I get a black screen. If I boot in live-expert mode I get kernel panic. I have a 7900GT graphics card. Thanks for all the help.
[11:56] <tritium> rambo3: there is no user account higher than root
[11:56] <tritium> PhiBerOpTIc: why on earth did you do that?
[11:57] <mathieu> tritium: he missed, scroll up
[11:57] <tomh-> anyone knows how to get VPN working under ubuntu?
[11:57] <tomh-> kvpn crashes when i try to import a pcf
[11:57] <filipe__> I'm using Live CD 6.0.1
[11:57] <PhiBerOpTIc> i was trying to chmod some dir and the goddam kids where bothering me
[11:57] <GNAM> Mark Shuttleworth Becomes the First Patron of KDE
[11:57] <GNAM> http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/
[11:58] <kooby-Ushluntu> but yeah if anyone can link me to or explain how i can update gaim without having to uninstall the desktop i'd appreciate that.
[11:58] <PhiBerOpTIc> everyting got stuck my passwd did not work and the /etc/sudoers said should be 0 not 777
[11:58] <next_level> when trying to install ubuntu i get stuck at i"starting enterprise volume management system"
[11:58] <tritium> PhiBerOpTIc: please watch the language too
[11:58] <PhiBerOpTIc> sorry
[11:59] <PhiBerOpTIc> well i restarted now it is doing some checking on the disks
[11:59] <wastrel> kooby-Ushluntu:  ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, just a wrapper & you don't need it.
[11:59] <mathieu> PhiBerOpTIc: to become root without password: add init=/bin/bash to your kernel options
[11:59] <wastrel> kooby-Ushluntu:  you can safely uninstall it.
[12:00] <tritium> PhiBerOpTIc: or just select recovery-mode (single-user mode) from the grub menu
[12:00] <filipe__> PhiBerOpTIc there's this more normal option is simply passing "single" as kernel option
[12:00] <PhiBerOpTIc> well i will try that after this stops checking the disks
[12:00] <kooby-Ushluntu> wastrel:  Thanks a bunch dude, you're a lifesaver
[12:00] <PhiBerOpTIc> maby it is fixing it as we speak, i dont know