| ryanakca | I have 5-6 licence plates for you :) | 12:16 |
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| ryanakca | http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/kubuntu/ (8-14).png | 12:17 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: which one would you like, in what format? anything I should change? | 12:18 |
| Riddell | sorry, no time just now | 12:20 |
| Riddell | but if you have 8 of them I'm sure one will be perfect :) | 12:20 |
| ryanakca | lol | 12:20 |
| ryanakca | kk | 12:20 |
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| ryanakca | Tm_T: what dependencies did you install? | 12:40 |
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| imbrandon | ryanakca, its not a matter of amarok having the support, its taglib | 12:50 |
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: ??? | 01:15 |
| ryanakca | [17:52] <ryanakca> how do you edit tag information on *.m4a ? | 01:15 |
| ryanakca | [17:52] <andrewt512> ryanakca, you need Amarok to have been compiled with AAC tag editing support | 01:15 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, and it has | 01:16 |
| imbrandon | i think, lemme look | 01:16 |
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| ryanakca | lol, thanks :) | 01:16 |
| imbrandon | you are talking NON drm'd also | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | ? | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | non-drm'd aac files | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | I'm talking about tracks copied off a cd with iTunes and then moved over to this computer... | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | how do I check? | 01:18 |
| imbrandon | you dont buy them from itunes ;) | 01:18 |
| imbrandon | rips should be ok, but thats really not the best solution | 01:18 |
| imbrandon | anyhow lemme look | 01:18 |
| ryanakca | kk, ty | 01:18 |
| imbrandon | your better off ripping to ogg/mp3 ( itunes will rip to mp3 if you change the settings ) | 01:19 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 01:19 |
| ryanakca | well, if you have a script to automagicly convert all my .a4a to .mp3, I'll gladly accept it :) | 01:19 |
| imbrandon | convert lossless to lossless is not great either ;( | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | I do .mp3 -> .ogg all the time, naughty me ;-) | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | nope looks like no .m4a due to lic issues | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, ^ | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | http://librarian.launchpad.net/4843610/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-i386.amarok_2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, ^^ look at that url , in the section "Amarok - PLUGINS" | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | it will tell you what it is and isnt compiled with, i'll see what the issue with m4a stuff is though | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | 99% likely its a lic issue | 01:28 |
| ryanakca | lic? | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | license | 01:28 |
| ryanakca | ah | 01:28 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: I don't think iPod takes .ogg :( | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | sure it does if you load rockbox or ipl ;) | 01:28 |
| ryanakca | lol | 01:28 |
| ryanakca | I don't... I tried, but I don't :) | 01:28 |
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| ryanakca | brb, shower | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | and mpeg video and doom and .... | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, i just looked the libs are in multiverse, i can look into compiling a version for imbrandon.com possibly that has all features enabled as something from multiverse will most certainly never make it to main | 01:28 |
| gnomefreak | was amarok 1.4.3 ever built for kdebase 3.5.2? | 01:40 |
| imbrandon | gnomefreak, the backport in dapper-backports is | 01:47 |
| imbrandon | why > | 01:47 |
| gnomefreak | 3.5.2 was missing depends for it. i had him upgrade to 3.5.4 | 01:48 |
| imbrandon | no something else was wrong , if he was using the backport version it could ONLY be built against 3.5.2 | 01:48 |
| imbrandon | as there is no other version in dapper | 01:48 |
| gnomefreak | imbrandon: he didnt have backports enabled is my bet | 01:49 |
| imbrandon | gnomefreak, then how was he getting amarok 1.4.3 | 01:49 |
| imbrandon | ? | 01:49 |
| gnomefreak | he wasnt was why i asked it was erroring on depends | 01:49 |
| gnomefreak | he wanted it | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | no but he was obviously trying from somewhere or else it couldent have errored | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | thus i'm asking where he got 1.4.3 | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | 1.4.3 should be downloaded from dapper-backports ( its newer than kubuntu.org ) is what i'm getting at | 01:51 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 01:52 |
| gnomefreak | he used the amarok repo he found on forums i think it was | 01:52 |
| gnomefreak | or someone in channel | 01:52 |
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| imbrandon | then he should be onb his own, i have no idea whats it was built against if he is getting it from some random place | 01:53 |
| gnomefreak | i looked at the depends for 1.4.3 and it said kdebase >=3.5.3-1 so i figured at that point it never got to dapper | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | looked at the depends for what version from where ? | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | dapper -backports has this .... | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | Version: 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu8~dapper1 | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | Depends: amarok-xine, ruby, python-qt3, lsb-release, kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.2) | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | sooo i'm again sayying if it was from some random place i cannot tell you what it depended on | 01:58 |
| imbrandon | but the one in backports, the one supported is against 3.5.2 | 01:58 |
| gnomefreak | oh ok i understand | 01:59 |
| gnomefreak | hes gonna break his system soon anyway ;) he wants to do edgy in a week or so | 02:00 |
| gnomefreak | maybe we will have update-mangler fixed by than | 02:00 |
| imbrandon | well he will ahve even more problems when he tries to upgrade whith packages from unknown sources installed | 02:00 |
| imbrandon | anyhow , dinner time bbiab | 02:01 |
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| freeflying | morning all | 02:19 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: kk, thanks | 02:19 |
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| ryanakca | morning freeflying | 02:34 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee!! ;) | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | hey Jucato | 05:43 |
| === Hobbsee demands that she not pass out. | ||
| Jucato | O_O | 05:43 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee, why would you pass out? | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: because i feel like rubbish :P | 05:46 |
| Jucato | :( | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | and i have to be here, as there's a maths test in 15 min. | 05:46 |
| Jucato | ouch... | 05:46 |
| === Jucato still feels the effects of all the drinking last night... | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 05:47 |
| Jucato | it's the first time I have gotten drunk in 6 months :) | 05:49 |
| Jucato | well, not really *really* drunk :) | 05:49 |
| === Hobbsee hasnt had any alcohol in over 2 years. | ||
| Jucato | :) | 05:53 |
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| imbrandon | ryanakca, ping | 06:01 |
| Jucato | imbrandon, were you able to hold your lecture in #ubuntu-classroom? | 06:01 |
| nixternal | * Hobbsee hasnt had any alcohol in over 2 years. | 06:04 |
| nixternal | it has been since 2003 for me ;) | 06:04 |
| nixternal | 2002 | 06:04 |
| === Jucato now feels that he's a baaaad boy.... :P | ||
| nixternal | although | 06:05 |
| nixternal | it is october..and you know what that means | 06:05 |
| nixternal | OCTOBER FEST! | 06:05 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 06:05 |
| Hobbsee | yay octoberfest! | 06:05 |
| Jucato | lol | 06:06 |
| nixternal | so, with that being said..i just might have to drink me some sam adams or goose island..and i know if i do that..then it is on to guiness, where if they stop pouring i start screaming | 06:06 |
| Jucato | I wasn't able to join the local octoberfest. So I just joined a neighbor's birthday party and drank :) | 06:06 |
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| viviersf | Riddell, ping | 08:18 |
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| Riddell | hi viviersf | 10:15 |
| viviersf | hi | 10:15 |
| viviersf | tell me | 10:15 |
| viviersf | did you need to change things in the frontend for the install | 10:16 |
| viviersf | to work on edgy ? | 10:16 |
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| Tonio_ | hey | 11:34 |
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| sebas | Is knot3 the latest image? | 01:53 |
| abattoir | sebas: afaik beta is the latest 'release' there are daily images available too | 01:54 |
| sebas | Ah, where? | 01:56 |
| abattoir | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ | 01:56 |
| sebas | Hm, there's no daily Kubuntu image | 01:57 |
| sebas | Ow wait ... that's *all* kubuntu :> | 01:57 |
| abattoir | yes :) | 01:58 |
| Riddell | sebas: if you try a daily image, let me know how you get on | 02:04 |
| abattoir | hi Riddell :) | 02:05 |
| Riddell | afternoon abattoir | 02:08 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: hey ;) did you touch the qt4 packages this we ? | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | looks like libQtCore_debug.so.4 isn't in libqt4-debug package anymore... | 02:23 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I updated to qt 4.2 | 02:23 |
| Riddell | yes, the _debug libraries don't exist any more | 02:23 |
| Riddell | what's the app? | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah... that can explain... wengophone doesn't work anymore | 02:23 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | I'll try to rebuild... | 02:24 |
| Riddell | for qmake apps you just re-run qmake | 02:24 |
| Tonio_ | yeah that's what I though too | 02:24 |
| Riddell | dunno if scons/cmake will need some changes to not try and use _debug | 02:24 |
| Tonio_ | the point is that debug is everywhere in the code.... ;) | 02:24 |
| Tonio_ | it is not currently possible to build wengo without debug, but rebuilding it will obably help | 02:26 |
| Tonio_ | probably | 02:26 |
| sebas | Do more people have stability problems with Quanta? | 02:28 |
| sebas | It just crashed for the second time in a couple of minutes here | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | hey sebas ! I don't use quanta, sorry | 02:28 |
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| RockMan | hi | 02:29 |
| Riddell | yo RockMan | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | hey RockMan | 02:29 |
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| RockMan | i just release kdebluetooth 1.0_beta23 | 02:31 |
| RockMan | *beta32 | 02:31 |
| RockMan | grr | 02:31 |
| RockMan | beta2 | 02:31 |
| Riddell | woo! | 02:31 |
| Tonio_ | RockMan: hehe, cool ! | 02:32 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: libqt4-debug-dev-kdecopy the equivalent of old libqt4-dev ? | 02:32 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: that's just what the kde 4 packages are built against | 02:32 |
| Riddell | don't use it | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: there is no dev files for qt4-debug then ? | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | I can find libqt4-debug-dev | 02:33 |
| sebas | ey Tonio_ | 02:33 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: correct, it doesn't exist any more | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: :) | 02:33 |
| Riddell | RockMan: blog! | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah.... okay let's fix the package.... | 02:34 |
| Riddell | hi Hobbsee | 02:34 |
| RockMan | oh.. right! that's what i forgot | 02:34 |
| Jucato | which version of KDE will Edgy be released with? 3.5.4 or 3.5.5? | 02:34 |
| Riddell | Jucato: 3.5.5 | 02:36 |
| Jucato | ah thanks :) | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: talking about that, I noticed an issue in knetworkmanager with 3.5.5 | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | kdeinit sometimes fails to restore it from a saved session | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | I'll contact timo about that issue | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: Hobbsee confirms the issue | 02:37 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: heliocastro is okay to commit the ark patches to kde svn | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can you commit ? | 02:56 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: sure, send me the diff | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sent, there are 3 patches | 02:57 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like I can't build wengophone... /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtCore_debug | 03:41 |
| Tonio_ | dunno hw to workarround this without the libqt4-debug-dev package... | 03:41 |
| Riddell | ask upstream how theyir qt 4.2 support is coming along | 03:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah, there is probably a solution on the dev website.... I hope | 03:42 |
| jdong | Riddell: why after the latest kubuntu-default-s upgrade did konsole go back to andale mono as its font? :) | 03:46 |
| jdong | it kind of looks.... umm.... really really ugly :) | 03:46 |
| Riddell | jdong: I've uploaded a fix for that | 03:46 |
| jdong | cool, thanks | 03:46 |
| jdong | didn't see it on edgy-changes yet | 03:46 |
| Riddell | Accepted kubuntu-default-settings 1:6.10-59 | 03:47 |
| Riddell | needs approved before it'll be in changes | 03:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like it is supposed to work.... | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: afaics qt4.2 is supposed to have debug headers.... | 03:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: are your packages merges from debian ? | 03:49 |
| Riddell | yes | 03:50 |
| Riddell | ervin just told me we might be missing qdebug.h | 03:50 |
| Riddell | if that what you are seeing? | 03:50 |
| Tonio_ | hehe, yes ;) | 03:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll just wait a bit... that's not an official package, so it can wait | 03:54 |
| Tonio_ | in any case wengophone is reported to have big issues with qt 4.2 | 03:55 |
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| oslo | hi | 04:33 |
| oslo | i could i tape what i see on my desktop to avi ? | 04:34 |
| oslo | soory, how could i tape what i see on my desktop to an video file ? | 04:34 |
| Jucato | screenkast? (not in the repos, iirc) | 04:36 |
| Jucato | http://sourceforge.net/projects/screenkast | 04:36 |
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| oslo | Jucato> i gonna see | 04:37 |
| Hawkwind | Jucato: I've got screenkast in my SoS repo, for dapper | 05:06 |
| Jucato | Hawkwind: not for me. for oslo | 05:13 |
| Hawkwind | Huh ? | 05:14 |
| Jucato | nvm :) | 05:15 |
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| fdoving | hmm.. the google search box on the about:konqueror page, doesn't work as expected if you change the 'konq -> settings -> web shortcuts -> keyword delimiter' from colon to space. | 06:17 |
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| pef | hello | 06:38 |
| Riddell | hi pef | 06:38 |
| Riddell | don't think we've seen you around for a while | 06:39 |
| pef | Riddell: yes, a few months, but now i have free again | 06:41 |
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| Riddell | yay! | 06:41 |
| Riddell | help test edgy! | 06:41 |
| pef | Riddell: iso is currently downloading :) | 06:41 |
| Riddell | viviersf: hi | 06:44 |
| Riddell | viviersf: did I ever answer your question about chgning the install for edgy? | 06:45 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: qdebug.h is in /usr/include/qt4/Qt/qdebug.h | 07:09 |
| Riddell | and /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qdebug.h | 07:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay I'll try to patch and build | 07:11 |
| mhb | Riddell: did you received my message that the release notes available for translation are out-of-date? Can you poke someone to quickly fix that (since transl. freeze is in 3 days), please? | 07:25 |
| Riddell | nixternal: ping ^^ | 07:26 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 07:26 |
| nixternal | out of date already | 07:26 |
| Riddell | mhb: I'm looking at the system settings .desktop translation issue now, do you know if it affects other desktop translations? | 07:26 |
| nixternal | i will get on that right now! | 07:26 |
| Riddell | mhb: remind nixternal what was out of date? kde version was it not? | 07:26 |
| nixternal | oh ya | 07:26 |
| nixternal | it is kde version w/o a doubt | 07:27 |
| nixternal | easy fix there...anythign else? | 07:27 |
| nixternal | 3.5.5 correct? | 07:27 |
| Riddell | yes | 07:27 |
| nixternal | damn...im going to have to get an exception i bet | 07:27 |
| Riddell | nixternal: should be fine | 07:28 |
| mhb | Riddell: I'm not sure | 07:28 |
| nixternal | well, this will effect more than just the release notes though..it effects all kubuntu docs...as the version is stored in global.ent file, and we use like &kde-rev; to get the version into the doco | 07:29 |
| Riddell | nixternal: looks like we have ktorrent 2.0.3 as well | 07:29 |
| Riddell | nixternal: good, that makes the diff smaller | 07:29 |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:29 |
| Riddell | nixternal: konversation 1.0.1 too | 07:30 |
| nixternal | the .diff will be 1 line ;) | 07:30 |
| nixternal | 2 actually, 1 minus, 1 plus...well now it is getting bigger ;) | 07:30 |
| Riddell | and means translations are not affected | 07:30 |
| nixternal | as those aren't entities im sure...but i will make them entitieis for edgy+1 | 07:30 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I'd be tempted not to change the konversation number then, the 1.0 is the important bit | 07:31 |
| nixternal | ok | 07:31 |
| mhb | Riddell: any possible chance to include the introduction in the hwdb-kde translation template? | 07:31 |
| nixternal | well, if i have to change ktorrent, i might as well change konversation, right? | 07:31 |
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| Riddell | mhb: that's next on my list | 07:32 |
| Riddell | I like how mhb has got the right idea to just keep poking me on IRC :) | 07:32 |
| mhb | Riddell: yeah, well ... I wish there was any other way than bothering you for every little thing, you know... | 07:35 |
| Riddell | it's the best way there is, besides fixing it yourself of course :) | 07:35 |
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| seaLne | could anyone that has a dapper box try installing gobby 4 following the instructions on http://darcs.0x539.de/trac/obby/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/Download ? | 07:36 |
| mhb | Riddell: but thanks for all the fixes :o) | 07:37 |
| seaLne | trying to get gobby working between dapper, sarge and edgy is fun | 07:37 |
| seaLne | ah ok they have got gobby to work now on dapper, nm | 07:40 |
| nixternal | seaLne: ya | 07:40 |
| nixternal | i was going to say, we send everyone to there when we do the weekly newsletter that still has dapper..so they can gobby with us on collab | 07:40 |
| seaLne | it seems he was just having some problems with the gpg key that was resulting in strange errors | 07:41 |
| seaLne | i ended up just building my own sarge sobby packages as i couldn't get theirs to work | 07:42 |
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| GNUro | Hi! | 08:21 |
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| Riddell | yes I am | 09:04 |
| nixternal | yes you are what? | 09:05 |
| ariya | Riddell: :-) | 09:05 |
| Riddell | ariya said I wasn't on this channel | 09:05 |
| nixternal | oh | 09:05 |
| nixternal | haha | 09:05 |
| ariya | too late | 09:06 |
| ariya | damage has been done :-) | 09:06 |
| ariya | Riddell: how can you package so many things? | 09:08 |
| Riddell | most of our packages are taken from debian | 09:08 |
| Riddell | and we have lots of cool people here who packages stuff | 09:09 |
| ariya | interesting | 09:09 |
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| rideout | Riddell: your akademy libsvn-dev package depends on debian version of libapr0-dev, that doesn't exist in edgy | 09:37 |
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| Riddell | rideout: it's intended for dapper | 09:39 |
| rideout | Riddell: that make sense then, I'm building from source | 09:41 |
| rideout | Riddell: what is the status of the qt build? | 09:41 |
| Riddell | rideout: still compiling away | 09:42 |
| rideout | thanks | 09:42 |
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| ryanakca_ | imbrandon: pong | 09:57 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, you have multiverse anabled right ? | 09:57 |
| ryanakca | aye | 09:57 |
| imbrandon | i made an amarok just for you ( since we cant do it officialy since aac is patented encombured ) | 09:58 |
| imbrandon | wanna try ? | 09:58 |
| ryanakca | lol, thanks | 09:58 |
| ryanakca | sure | 09:58 |
| imbrandon | its exactly like the one in the repos except it has aac tag support | 09:58 |
| ryanakca | deb http://imbrandon.com/amarok? | 09:58 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 09:58 |
| imbrandon | deb http://imbrandon.com/packages edgy amarok | 09:59 |
| ryanakca | ty | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | np | 09:59 |
| ryanakca | could that version bge stuck into multiverse as amarok-nonfree or something along those lines? | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | just make sure you have multiverse anabled or it wont install | 09:59 |
| ryanakca | kk | 09:59 |
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| imbrandon | ryanakca, not sure, when i get a little less busy i'll see | 09:59 |
| kwwii | eveniing | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | heya kwwii | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 | 09:59 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about 111 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 10:00 |
| kwwii | howdy imbrandon | 10:00 |
| imbrandon | heh | 10:00 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: kk | 10:00 |
| ryanakca | ubotu: lol, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 =/= 111 :P | 10:00 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about lol, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 =/= 111 :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 10:00 |
| imbrandon | =/= ? heh != | 10:01 |
| ryanakca | meh, I wasn't sure about that... so I just used the version in my math homework :) | 10:01 |
| imbrandon | lol | 10:01 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: is it a bug that you need to restart your scripts each time you restart/reopen amarok? | 10:02 |
| ryanakca | or is it supposed to be like that? | 10:02 |
| imbrandon | i'm guessing supposed | 10:03 |
| ryanakca | kk | 10:03 |
| ryanakca | blast those 'You've won our unexistant lottery, please send me your credit card number' e-mails... | 10:04 |
| ryanakca | delete, delete, delete... they've for some reason been getting threw GMail's spam filters lately... | 10:04 |
| imbrandon | let me know if that works ok, as i dident have any aac files to test it | 10:04 |
| imbrandon | anyhow , i'm gonna get some food bbiab | 10:05 |
| ryanakca | kk, I'll let you know :) | 10:05 |
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: I think ubuntu's version has some unescaped HTML problems... http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/amarok.png | 10:21 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: amarok is still upgrading/installing... | 10:21 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: have you heard about bug 65873 ? | 10:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 65873 in kdelibs "Konqueror doesn't show the content of CD/Dvds unless "refresh" is pressed in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65873 | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I can confirm that issue | 10:40 |
| Sime | Tonio_: what *kind* of CD/DVD? | 10:40 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: any, data for example | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | I insert a cd, then choose "open in a new windows" and it is empty unless I press F5 | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I looked at your patches concerning the audiocd part, and I saw your changes | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: the code is too complicated for me but it looks supposed to work, indeed | 10:42 |
| Sime | Tonio_: Data DVD works here. | 10:42 |
| Sime | Tonio_: what you can do is.... | 10:42 |
| Sime | Tonio_: put a DVD in your computer, then do nothing.... | 10:43 |
| Sime | Tonio_: open up a console and run.... | 10:43 |
| Sime | Tonio_: "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" | 10:43 |
| Sime | Tonio_: put that output somewhere where I can see it. | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: okay let me test | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/28 | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | I can see the cd and it is mounted | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | now I choosing "open in a new tab" | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | I got /media/cdrom0 -> empty folder | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | I press F5 -> I can see the content | 10:45 |
| Sime | Tonio_: did you get that popup? | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: yes, but I didn't touch at it, I simply ran your command | 10:46 |
| Sime | Tonio_: so the popup is still open? | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | yes | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: if you have a few minutes to test, do you want to vnc on my computer ? | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | I insert a cd and you can do what you want to see what happens | 10:47 |
| Sime | ok, then tell it to open the disk in konq and then run that command again. Right now I can see that kde/hal sees that the disk is unmounted (good). | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/29 | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | I did as you said -> open in konq -> command | 10:49 |
| nuku | i can confirm this too | 10:49 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: media/cdwriter_mounted -> looks good but konq window is empty | 10:50 |
| Sime | Tonio_: it mounted it correctly, and it *should* have shown up ok in konq. | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: yeah I agree, but that doesn't work | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | but if I press F5, no pb, it works | 10:50 |
| Sime | Tonio_: mmmmm.... | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: hehe, I know ;) | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: are you using edgy currently ? | 10:51 |
| Sime | yes | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: okay | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: yes, the issue is confirmed by a other people... | 10:52 |
| Sime | Tonio_: maybe the directory notification subsystem isn't working. | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: the point is that the cd drive launches the first time I press F5 | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | seems to read the cd content | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | that doesn't happen when konq launches | 10:52 |
| Sime | Tonio_: It looks like konq isn't hearing that the contents of the directory have changed. | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: true | 10:53 |
| Sime | Tonio_: /media/cdrom0 is empty, then it gets mounted, then the contents change. | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: hum okay let's test this | 10:53 |
| Sime | Tonio_: konq should see that it has new contents. | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | open in konq see the empty folder and ls /media/cdrom0 | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | that should work according to you ? | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | I'm testing | 10:53 |
| Sime | Try opening konq on a directory, then creating a file in that dir from the console. Does the file appear automatcially in konq? | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | tonio@kubuntu:~$ ls /media/cdrom0 | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | dists doc install isolinux md5sum.txt pics pool preseed README.diskdefines ubuntu | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | nothing in konq | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: you're right concerning the problem | 10:55 |
| Sime | Tonio_: which exactly? :) | 10:55 |
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| nuku | Sime: yes its getting updated when i create a file in my homedir.. | 10:55 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: okay, creating a file in the shell -> appears automatically in konq | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | no problem there | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | but with a data cd, doesn't work | 10:56 |
| DaSkreech | Hi nixternal | 10:56 |
| Sime | nuku: have you got scsi hardware too? | 10:56 |
| nixternal | well hello DaSkreech | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | ls /media/cdrom0 shows the content of the cd, but konq doesn't refresh the infos | 10:56 |
| DaSkreech | How are you? | 10:56 |
| Sime | Tonio_: is it the same story for other devices? usb sticks? | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: let me test* | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | rah......; no usb key there | 10:57 |
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| Tonio_ | nuku: can you test witha use key please ? | 10:57 |
| nuku | Sime: well not scsi hardware but sata.. | 10:57 |
| Sime | nuku: ok, | 10:57 |
| nuku | Tonio_: hold on i have to find it :) | 10:58 |
| Sime | Tonio_: are you using SATA? | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: yeah | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | scd0 -> sata device | 10:58 |
| Sime | I'm not. | 10:58 |
| Sime | ok, I thought scsi | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: are you using sata ? | 10:58 |
| nuku | yes | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | hum, looks like an issue with sata then...... | 10:58 |
| Sime | yeah | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | konq doesn't see the content change on scd* things | 10:59 |
| nuku | yep usb stick works here too | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: and is the audiocd issue related to sata too according to you ? | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | refresh doesn't work in that case ;) | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | and shell doesn't show the cd content too | 10:59 |
| Sime | Tonio_: Your /media/cdrom0 is a /dev/scd0 | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: true | 11:00 |
| Sime | Tonio_: it looks like SATA too. | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | I know | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: that's what I told you, my dvd burner is a sata one :) | 11:01 |
| Tonio_ | and it looks like nuku has a sata device too | 11:01 |
| Sime | Tonio_: oh, my brain might have drop that info as being not relevant at the time. ;-) | 11:01 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: hehe :) | 11:01 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I will search for kde bts concerning this issue | 11:02 |
| Sime | now if I can just figure out how search works on LP. | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | maybe there is a patch. the point is it looks external to your patches | 11:02 |
| Sime | Tonio_: it is probably a lower level issue with the kernal and inotify. | 11:02 |
| nuku | Sime: is there some kind of monitor to watch events? | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: and to be sure, is audio cd working for you ? | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | maybe that's sata relative too | 11:03 |
| nuku | just tested it on another computer without sata.. it works there.. so this really seems to be the problem.. | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: okay | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: can you test with an audio cd now please ? | 11:06 |
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| Tonio_ | on sata and non sata device | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | can you see the cd content in /media/cdrom0 ? | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | doesn't work at all for me even with refresh | 11:06 |
| nuku | well first i have to find a audio cd.. :) i dumped them a couple of years ago :) | 11:06 |
| Sime | audio cds are a little bit different. They don't get mounted, but they should open in audiocd:/ in konq. | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: okay, the point is I have a folder with meta informations | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | the meta infos are audiocd:/?device=/dev/scd0 | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | that's correct | 11:09 |
| nuku | hm audiocd:/ seems to work fine here.. | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that if I double click the icon in /media, is opens like a folder | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: yes, works here too | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: but open konq in /media and double click the cd icon, what happens | 11:09 |
| mhb | what package should a (guidance-)power-manager related bug be filed under? | 11:09 |
| nuku | Tonio_: thats empty | 11:10 |
| mhb | if it's probably not the power manager itself but some layer beneath it (HAL maybe) | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: look at the icons property | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | mhb, depends on the bug | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | it should be set as a folder, and you should have meta infos I assume | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: it probably shouldn't be set as a folder for konq to respect the meta infos no ? | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: or maybe there is something missing in the meta, dunno | 11:11 |
| nuku | yep meta info points to audocd:/.. but clicking brings me to /media/cdrom0 | 11:11 |
| mhb | imbrandon: well, the new power-manager always says that my laptop lid is closed | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: yes, exactly | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: and how about the non-sata machine ? | 11:11 |
| nuku | hold on | 11:12 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: I think ubuntu's version has some unescaped HTML problems... http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/amarok.png | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | mhb, probably hal then | 11:12 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: I'll restart amarok after this song :) | 11:12 |
| mhb | imbrandon: thanks, I thought so | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, i heard you the first time ;) | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: concerning the refresh issue, it looks like it also doesn't work in media:/scd0 on mount, but it works on cd removing ;) | 11:12 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: lol | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: weird...... | 11:12 |
| mhb | imbrandon: hm, hal doesn't use malone as its bug tracker ... | 11:13 |
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: report is as bug or no? | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, upto you , but use upstreams tracker | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | mhb, what ? | 11:14 |
| ryanakca | not launchpad? kk | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, bugs.kde.org | 11:14 |
| mhb | imbrandon: wait, maybe it's me getting lost in LP again | 11:14 |
| === imbrandon thinks so | ||
| imbrandon | LP is pretty simple , i dont see how people get lost heh | 11:15 |
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| nuku | so the audiocd link is not related to sata as it seems.. | 11:15 |
| Sime | Tonio_: I just tested an audiocd here, and it opening in /media/cdrom0. (BAD). | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: nope | 11:15 |
| nuku | goes to /media/cdrom0 too on the non sata machine here.. | 11:15 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: works, thanks :D | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: you can see the cd content ? | 11:15 |
| Sime | Tonio_: maybe the patch didn't apply to 3.5.5 | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: they did.... I tried to rebuild | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: are you using the ubuntu kde packages ? | 11:16 |
| mhb | imbrandon: it's quite easy :o) I tried to "jump on product" hal through https://launchpad.net/malone | 11:16 |
| Sime | Tonio_: yes | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I too, so what can be the difference ? | 11:16 |
| imbrandon | mhb, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hal/+filebug | 11:16 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: oh, and is it normal that my computer slows down to a crawl and that amarok becomes unresponsive for minutes at a time when I try filling in track info with MusicBrain(s/z)? | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: the point is you are the only one who got it to work :) | 11:16 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, yea thats normal as musicbranz sucks | 11:17 |
| mhb | imbrandon: thanks,I found it :o) | 11:17 |
| Sime | Tonio_: i'll grab the .deb source and check the patches. | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: they are correct | 11:17 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: kk | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | tonio@kubuntu:~/Desktop/kdebase/kdebase-3.5.5$ grep -d recurse audiocd debian/patches | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | debian/patches/kubuntu_83_media_desktop.diff:+ if ( realUrl.protocol()=="audiocd" || realUrl.protocol()=="camera") | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | debian/patches/kubuntu_76_kickermedia.diff:+ if ( realUrl.protocol()=="audiocd" || realUrl.protocol()=="camera") | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: If i'm correct that is the changes you did with latest version that should make it to work right ? | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | if yes, the patches are there | 11:18 |
| nuku | ok.. | 11:18 |
| nuku | media:/scd0 works here for audiocd.. | 11:18 |
| Sime | Tonio_: that looks right | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: hehe I know, that's the problem :) | 11:19 |
| nuku | plus media:/scd0 works for normal data dvd/cd without refresh.. | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: yes but that's different | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: that's because the cd is already mounted when you typed /media/scd0 | 11:20 |
| Sime | Tonio_: I'm going to have to do some rebuilding here so that I can add debug info and find out what is going on. | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: at the same moment, if you type /media/cdrom0 it'll work too | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: great | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: concerning the refresh issue, isn't there a way to discard konq opening ? | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | that's a workarround, but should work no ? | 11:21 |
| Sime | Tonio_: what do you mean exactly? | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | konq should open 1/10 sec before the cd mounts, so I assume if we start it just 1 sec later, that should work | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: the point is that konq opens before the cd is mounted right ? | 11:22 |
| Tonio_ | isn't there a way to invert the two processes ? | 11:22 |
| Tonio_ | cd mounts -> konq launches* | 11:22 |
| Tonio_ | that's in the the action selection box/popup code I presume no ? | 11:23 |
| Tonio_ | that's a workarround but it should work I assume | 11:24 |
| Sime | Tonio_: no, konq is opened after the medium is mounted. | 11:26 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: hum, okay so I have to check at the notify issue..... | 11:28 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: I'll try to get that fixed, since you cannot test or reproduce... | 11:28 |
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| Tonio_ | nuku: if you remove any cd, and open media:/scd0 in konq | 11:29 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: there? | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | then insert a cd and get it mounted, do you see the window refreshing its content ? | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: doesn't work here | 11:30 |
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| nuku | Tonio_: yep no refresh.. i will try it on the non sata.. | 11:35 |
| nuku | no refresh either.. | 11:36 |
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| nixternal | im somewhere DaSkreech | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: ah ? | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: no refresh on pata ? | 11:44 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: If you have 20 minutes free for in depth Chit chat ping me | 11:44 |
| nixternal | ping | 11:44 |
| nixternal | you buying dinner? | 11:45 |
| nuku | Tonio_: for media:/... at least | 11:45 |
| DaSkreech | Buy? | 11:45 |
| DaSkreech | What's that? | 11:45 |
| nixternal | hehe | 11:45 |
| jjesse | mmm dinner | 11:45 |
| nixternal | paying for dinner ;) | 11:45 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: okay I'll investigate on that point | 11:45 |
| nixternal | jjesse!!! | 11:45 |
| nixternal | you have been hiding i see | 11:45 |
| DaSkreech | Not sucessfully it semms :-) | 11:45 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: but you can try this : choose "do nothing" then the cd mounts | 11:45 |
| Tonio_ | then open the cd in konq -> works | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: that confirms the problem is a refresh problem, so that's not konq itself, but kernel/inotify | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: Sime is right on that point | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | konq opens while the cd content is read and doesn't refresh when done | 11:46 |
| nixternal | so whats up DaSkreech? you hacking away at your landscape program? | 11:47 |
| nuku | Tonio_: yep with "do nothing" it works.. | 11:48 |
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| Tonio_ | nuku: I have to check at konq sata related bugs | 11:48 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: Kinda I was brainstorming last night instead of sleeping and wanted to run some stuff by you since you obviously want a much more detailed program than what I had planned | 11:48 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: What did you like about the windows program you used? | 11:48 |
| nixternal | haha | 11:49 |
| nixternal | msg me | 11:49 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: sometimes it works, depends if the cd content is cached or not.... | 11:51 |
| Tonio_ | strange issue | 11:51 |
| nuku | Tonio_: well i guess its a race condition.. | 11:51 |
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| Tonio_ | nuku: race condition ? I'm limited english, can you describe more ? | 11:54 |
| ryanakca | for Krash, can I use kde 3.5.4 and krash apps at the same time? | 11:55 |
| ryanakca | or just krash or just 3.5.4 at any one time? | 11:55 |
| DaSkreech | Tonio_: Two or more things fighting for the same resource. Which ever process gets it first wins | 11:55 |
| nuku | two threads running and the wrong finishes first - put in simply words :) | 11:55 |
| DaSkreech | I think you can Krash apps from any KDE | 11:55 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: thanks :) | 11:56 |
| ryanakca | DaSkreech: you can? | 11:56 |
| ryanakca | DaSkreech: so no need to add that line to sources.list and install libqt4-dev (or something like that) ? | 11:57 |
| ryanakca | kde4base-dev | 11:57 |
| DaSkreech | ryanakca: maybe I shuld point out the obvious pun for the word Krash :) | 11:57 |
| ryanakca | DaSkreech: yes, you should :P | 11:58 |
| ryanakca | lol | 11:58 |
| DaSkreech | You asked if you could use KDe3.5.4 and krash apps . The Obvious answer is yes you can krash apps in any KDE :) | 11:59 |
| ryanakca | lol | 12:00 |
| ryanakca | Crash != Krash | 12:01 |
| ryanakca | C != K | 12:01 |
| ryanakca | ;) | 12:01 |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: krash installs to /usr/lib/kde4 so you can use alongside kde 3 | 12:02 |
| Riddell | at last the packages I made do | 12:02 |
| ryanakca | and it wont mess up stuff? I'm wondering about KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde4 ... will that make kmenu stuff open under kde4 or 3? | 12:03 |
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| ryanakca | s/'KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde4'/'export KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde4' | 12:04 |
| ryanakca | (yes, I know it will crash a lot) | 12:07 |
| ryanakca | sorry if I'm not being clear... | 12:07 |
| DaSkreech | s/c/k/ | 12:07 |
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| nuku | Sime: is there a dcop call to initiate a mount? | 12:08 |
| DaSkreech | KDE4 is pushed back to Q4? | 12:09 |
| Sime | nuku: dcop kded mediamanager mount xxxx | 12:09 |
| Sime | nuku: xxx is a kind of ID, and you get it from... | 12:10 |
| Sime | nuku: dcop kded mediamanager fullList | 12:10 |
| Sime | nuku: from the second line of each section. ("sda1", "smb_fs1" etc) | 12:11 |
| Sime | hdd2 | 12:11 |
| nuku | k.. thanks | 12:12 |
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