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bojanand i wish to fix'em12:14
mutlu_inekbojan: go to #Ubuntu+112:14
bojanok12:15
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khirrguy12:15
khirrhow can i install12:15
khirrJAVA VIRTUAL MACHINE}?12:15
bojanbut i am not suing edgy12:15
mutlu_ineklol12:15
khirr;S12:16
khirrwhy?12:16
bojanusing*12:16
khirr?12:16
khirri've installed JRE12:16
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khirrbut, i need JVM12:16
khirr:S12:16
goldphishis there a way to make kubuntu stop asking for admin password without loggin in as root?12:16
Hawkwindgoldphish: sudo -i is one way12:17
Hawkwindgoldphish: You can also setup sudo to not ask for a password at all12:17
T3hWiz0rd!ati12:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:17
khirrpls12:17
khirrhow can i install JVM?12:17
Manyfoldin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.12:17
ManyfoldSo, check this please and use another prefix!12:17
Manyfoldno12:17
Manyfoldchecking for rpath... yes12:17
Manyfold*** Exited with status: 1 ***12:17
Hawkwindkhirr: Patience.  When/If someone knows they will help you. No need to constantly repeat yourself12:18
Hawkwind!paste > Manyfold12:18
Tm_T!java > khirr12:18
HawkwindManyfold: Please use pastebin12:18
khirrok12:18
HawkwindTm_T: He doesn't want java for a browser12:18
Manyfoldyes12:18
goldphishHawkwind, i think im a little off12:18
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Tm_THawkwind: I see12:18
goldphishlike if i go to system settings, i dont want it to ask for the password to do certain things12:18
Tm_TAnyway, I'm going to sleep, good night you all. ->12:19
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goldphishso  its not really a sudo thing12:20
Manyfoldhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/qxnfPh76.html <- autoconf gave me this what to do?12:20
goldphishpossibly a kdesudo thing i dunno12:20
Hawkwindgoldphish: If you setup sudo to never ask for a password, it won't do it in systemsettings either12:20
goldphishoh ok12:20
Hawkwindgoldphish: I've got mine setup to never ask for a password12:20
wildchildERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the12:20
wildchild       Macromedia Flash Player installer.12:20
Manyfoldi am trying to build a simple kde application12:20
wildchild:S12:20
Hawkwindgoldphish: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=148.0  <~~Read the bottom. It has a part for Kubuntu sudo setup12:20
Manyfoldor isn't kubuntu suiteble for development?12:21
mutlu_inekManyfold: you have to install the kde development packages12:21
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Manyfoldmutlu_inek: what is the name of the .deb?12:22
gybotanyone knows how i can set up my router on kubuntu? i called the linksys people and they said they have no i dea on how to help me because i use linux12:22
HawkwindManyfold: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:22
xaviery does kubuntu run fsck everrry time it reboots for all my fat32 drives .. and doesnt fix any of them? whts the point? anyway .. how do i run fsck manually and correct the errors? it says they are mounted12:22
Hawkwindgybot: What do you mean by 'setup your router on Kubuntu'  ??12:22
wildchildERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. Please help12:22
mutlu_inekManyfold: kde-devel12:22
ManyfoldHawkwind: build-essentials are already installed12:23
Hawkwindwildchild: You have to use the 32bit version.  Flash isn't made for 64Bit12:23
HawkwindManyfold: So install the kde headers12:23
mutlu_inekManyfold: but that would install all kde dev packages12:23
wildchildHawkwind: so konqueror is ussless ?12:23
Hawkwindwildchild: Who said that ?12:23
wildchildfor streaming..12:23
Hawkwindwildchild: As I stated, use the 32bit version of flash12:23
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gyboti'm now directly connected to my MODEM, everytime i plug in the the router none of my computers can access the internet12:24
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wildchildHawkwind: but I am using 64bit linux..12:24
Hawkwindgybot: Then you need to reconfigure Kubuntu to use the router as the gateway instead of the modem12:24
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mutlu_inekwildchild: the 64bit version won't work12:24
Hawkwindwildchild: You still have to use the 32bit version of flash.  You can 32bit apps on a 64bit OS12:24
HawkwindThere is no 64bit flash package12:25
wildchildI download it manually..12:25
gybotHawkwind: anyway you can help me do that? :-)12:25
wildchildI don't even know there are flash packages...12:25
Hawkwindgybot: Easiest way is to hook up the router, boot Kubuntu, then go to systemsettings and then into the network setup.  It should detect it all for you12:25
Hawkwind!flash > wildchild12:26
gybotok12:26
gybotloosing connection..... brb12:26
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Manyfoldit worked thank you12:30
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mutlu_inekManyfold: good to hear12:31
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craftycornerhello?12:36
wildchild!gnash12:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:36
craftycornerwas wondering if u could lend a hand.  I lost a program lol12:37
wildchildHawkwind I followed the link u entered, but there aren't any instructions how to install gnash flash12:37
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T3hWiz0rd!katapult12:38
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.12:38
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craftycornerI don't think it's risky, it's just a video capture program12:38
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wildchildHawkwind: never mind12:39
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mustechis there a channel for xgl on kubuntu discussion12:41
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Hawkwindmustech: #Ubuntu-XGL12:42
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gemidjyhrm...where do I configure sound and other hardware comps. in Kubuntu Edgy ?, the Control Center (systemsettings) seems so minimalistic...12:43
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gemidjyand I get  acpi-support depends on acpid (>= 1.0.4-1ubuntu4); however:12:44
Chanimy friend just tried to stick an sd card in my laptop, and dmesg has some message about a new pcmcia thingy, but there was no magical mounting... I'm not really sure what might be wrong. does sd card stuff require extra software opr drivers usually?12:44
gemidjyChani: no, just I can't find way to configure it12:44
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kolinanyone here?12:49
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BluDog_Anchoritenope12:49
chrisX`what is the differnce between 2.4 and 2.6 kernels12:50
kolini was wondering something.  does kubuntu come with any type of icon editing program or anything12:50
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Chani2.4 is ooold12:50
kolinlike i want to turn my blue trash into a grey trash12:50
Chanialso, iirc 2.4 needs scsi emulation for cd burners12:50
kolinpretty trivial i know:)12:50
BluDog_Anchoriteno idea12:51
kolincause icons are just pictures aren't they/12:51
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T3hWiz0rdt3hwiz0rd-server: rawr! stupid thing12:52
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bLaZeDcan anyone watch videos on here http://www.yikers.com/index.html ??..i cant get videos to work for the life of me...im starting to think its a linux thing12:54
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Skrot-Hi. How can I tell alsa to use a specific sound card in kubuntu? I've got two.12:55
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osirisbLaZeD, plays fine here12:57
bLaZeDhuh12:57
bLaZeDwhat are u using to playy it?..fireofx and what plugin?12:58
osirisyou have mozilla-mplayer12:58
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bLaZeDhmm12:58
bLaZeDlet me see12:58
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osirisapt-cache search mplayer | grep mplayer12:58
bLaZeDosiris, yea i have it installed12:59
BluDog_AnchoritebLaZeD: (osiris here) thats what im using12:59
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BluDog_Anchoriteyou mgiht need the win32codecs, but that should be it01:00
steveirebLaZeD: Can you play wmv on your harddrive?01:01
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bLaZeDhmm i have win32codecs.....and i have the mozilla-mplayer installed01:02
bLaZeDsteveire, yea i can01:02
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steveiredoes about:plugins in firefox give anything?01:02
bLaZeDdid u guys change any options in the mplayer plugin...01:02
BluDog_Anchoritenope01:03
mutlu_inekactually, I cannot play these either. and i have mplayer, mozilla-mplayer and w32-codecs installed, too01:03
bLaZeDmutlu_inek, ahh so im not alone ;)01:03
mutlu_ineksadly not ;)01:04
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bLaZeDit starts to try and stream the video...then it just stops01:04
bLaZeD....like i see it connect and try to buffer it...but then nodda01:04
mutlu_inek^^ my player does not even load01:04
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steveirebLaZeD: Try another video. And let it buffer 100%01:05
bLaZeDsteveire, ive trid several vids..and i do let it go...i let it do its own thing till it says stopped and sits there01:06
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zen2_anyone able to help01:09
mutlu_ineki just realized that firefox does not show mozilla-mplayer in about:plugins any more. reinstalling does not help. any idea?01:09
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mutlu_inekthe plugin just does not get registered in ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat01:13
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mutlu_inekwhat do you entries look like? i could add them manually01:13
stanleydsah. sent me here automatically01:13
stanleydshello, everyone01:13
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stanleydslet me get straight to the slaughter.... i wanna install the latest (stable) version of firefox. how?01:14
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cpk2hmm i can see someone sent me a message but my buffer for the channel wasnt long enough =P01:15
bLaZeDmutlu_inek, here is my http://pastebin.ulteo.us/16601:16
bLaZeD*mine01:16
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stanleydsumm.... did i come to the wrong channel?01:16
bLaZeDstanleyds, are u using kubuntu linux?01:16
stanleydsyeah01:16
bLaZeDthen yes u are in the right place :)01:17
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stanleydsoh.01:17
bLaZeDstanleyds, sudo apt-get install firefox01:17
bLaZeDwil install firefox01:17
stanleydsokay. lemme give that a go.... brb01:18
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sledgeDo the (k)ubuntu-kernel patches add drivers or interfaces that are necessary for the system to complete the boot phase?01:20
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jackrazzHey everyone, I'm trying kubuntu for the first time and have some version type questions.01:28
stanleydscooool. works like a charm. thanks..... for part one.01:28
jackrazzFirst, I'm creating a usb stick that currently boots ubuntu server01:28
jackrazzI now need to uses aptitude to install kubuntu01:28
jackrazzthere appears to be a minimal kubuntu and kubuntu-desktop available01:28
jackrazzdoes anyone know the differences?01:28
jackrazzI'm limited to 1 GB, so I don't want to go over.01:28
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steveirewhat is the minimal version called?01:28
jackrazzdon't remember, sorry I didn't write it down01:28
steveireAlso, look into puppylinux or damnsmall linux01:28
age1172it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26932/01:28
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steveirewell, jackrazz when you see it again, type aptitude show kubuntu-minimal or whatever01:28
jackrazzNot interested in puppy or other.  I want a full apt-get style install01:28
jackrazzok, stevire, thanks01:28
jackrazzWasn't there a seperate new kde desktop that was just released into the repositories for upgrading kubuntu01:28
steveiredamn small linux is based on debian, which means apt-get style.01:28
steveireit has good community support too01:28
jackrazz3.51 or whatever the latest is01:28
steveire3.5.5? Dunno. I think I'm using it on edgy.01:28
jackrazzSo I could install dsl and get synaptic to do whatever I want?01:28
steveireI don't know if it comes with synaptic. I assume it has at least aptitude.01:28
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jackrazzI know what you mean, I'm in ubuntu edgy right now01:28
steveireHave a google. I'm afraid I haven't actually used it.01:28
jackrazzok, steveire, thanks for the help01:28
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stanleydsokaaay. part two: i wanna get some video up & runnin, so i wanna get me some codecs. should i use this libxine-extracodecs package thingy or do i have better options?01:32
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cpk2stanleyds: you might have other options but I think libxine is probably the best01:35
Skrot-!codec01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
stanleydsokay, i'll give libxine a shot first, then try that page. thx cpk & ubotu01:36
bLaZeD!restriced01:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restriced - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:36
bLaZeD!restricted01:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:36
bLaZeDSkrot-, ^^01:37
cpk2stanleyds: libxine will give you almost everything01:37
cpk2stanleyds: except i think windows media, which is also really easy to get01:37
Skrot-bLaZeD: Yes. Thanks. I asked ubotu in privmsg. Problem is; I can't seem to "force" amarok to use alsa.. it only wants to use OSS, which is sort of odd01:37
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bLaZeDSkrot-, hmm sorry i cant realy help ya with amarok...as i dont use that as my media player...allthough amarok is preety slick01:38
bLaZeDSkrot-, is it JUST amaroknot givin sound....or is it everything01:39
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Skrot-bLaZeD: mplayer -ao alsa works01:40
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age1172that is xgl.desktop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26939/01:44
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Skrot-bLaZeD: Got it working01:44
bLaZeDSkrot-, ahh goo deal01:44
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bLaZeD*good deal01:45
Skrot-aye01:45
smarquesoi01:45
smarquesalguem aqui???01:46
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unix_infidelsmarques: #ubuntu-es01:47
unix_infidel!ubuntu-es01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
unix_infidel!#ubuntu-es01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
Hawkwind!es01:48
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:48
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nzkWhen is edgy coming out01:49
unix_infidelactually, that's brazillian.01:49
unix_infideli shouldlve known better :)01:49
unix_infidelhaha.01:49
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Hawkwind!schedule > nzk01:50
nzkSo how do I upgrade to edgy?01:51
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stanleydsi'm havin trouble enabling the multiverse repository01:52
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stanleydsi added multiverse to the universe repository line like the instrucs @kubuntu.org said, but that didn't work... even after i opened & closed adept again01:53
cpk2how did it not work?01:53
cpk2!work01:53
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.01:53
cpk2i love that line =P01:53
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mainHi all01:56
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stanleydsokaay... umm... in adept i went to view > manage repositories  and from there i added the word multiverse to the line that has the universe component, just as instructed. after doing that, clicking apply, then closing & re-opening adept, i found that libxine-extracodecs was still not in the list of packages01:56
mutlu_inekyou have to fetch updates01:57
Hawkwindstanleyds: View your /etc/apt/sources.list and see if multiverse is there.  If it is, then do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs from the terminal01:57
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BluesKajstanleyds:  you need to add a non free repos, check this out http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:59
morbiushello02:00
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soulriderhi02:02
soulrideri just insert a DVD i had burned a long time ago on widnows02:02
soulriderbut i cant read it =/02:02
BluesKaj!dvd02:03
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:03
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mutlu_inek!edgy02:05
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule02:06
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soul_riderdamn, i gto dsiconnected02:06
soul_riderany ideas ofr my problem ?02:06
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soulriderany ideas of why i cant read that DVD ?02:07
manuel_i need help with fire fox02:07
soulridermanuel_:  whats wrong02:07
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manuel_i dont know how to install02:08
soulriderdid you enable the universe amd multiverse repositories ?02:08
BluesKajsoulrider: you need the Libdvdcss at http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html02:08
BluesKajand http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:09
soulriderits not a movie02:09
soulriderits just data02:09
BluesKajnow he tells us02:09
manuel_iam new in linux i dont what is that02:09
soulrideri said a DVD, not a movie dVD02:10
soulridermanuel02:10
soulridergo to your kmenu02:10
soulriderand then add/remove programs02:10
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manuel_and then what02:11
soulriderok02:11
soulrideron the top right corner you will see two checkboxes02:11
soulriderenable them02:11
BluesKajsoulrider: when someone mentions DVD it's sorta understood that it's video02:11
soulriderwell, i meant data :P sorry bout that02:12
manuel_ok thankyou soiurrider02:12
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soulrideryou found it ?02:12
rawrnessanyone know how to play with vmplayer?02:13
mutlu_inek? play ?02:13
manuel_did you cantell me where can istar to learn kubuntu02:14
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rawrnessperhaps not play02:14
mutlu_inekwhat do you need to know?02:14
soulridermanuel, espaol _02:14
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soulrider?02:14
manuel_everythink02:14
rawrnessjust plain use.02:14
method|is there a way to do multiperson chatting in kopete (aim protocol)?02:14
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manuel_tu sabes espanol02:17
BluesKajmethod|: have you tried aMSN?02:17
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BluesKaj!es02:17
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:17
method|manuel_: nope02:18
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stanleydspart three: video plays... audio&video seem to stay in sync but it plays a bit choppy when it plays anime (choppy enough to be annoying). playing in kaffeine. media player problem or video drivers problem?02:21
soulridermanuel, podemos hablar espanol pero por private message02:21
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soulrideroops, he left :P02:21
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method|gaim supports multiperson chatting02:23
method|if anyone cared02:23
method|lol02:23
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BluesKajso does irc02:23
method|this is true02:24
method|<--didn't want to explain to someone how to use irc02:24
BluesKajas does aMSN02:24
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jbrouhardOkay02:43
jbrouhardI'm trying to get Wireless to work on my Dell Inspiron 5150.02:43
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jbrouhardit's an internal wireless, so.. why does it get picked up[02:44
jbrouhardbut it won't enable ?02:44
snook353does anyone have streamtuner or kstreamripper?02:44
snook353i want to know how to get streamripper via streamtuner to use the kstreamripper gui02:45
thompaanyone using ktorrent, I have a basic question?02:46
snook353thompa, i do02:46
BluesKajsnook353: I have it but havent tried your idea02:46
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BluesKajyes thompa ...what's yer question02:46
thompasnook353: hi, i have some video i partially downloaded and when i play it it makes a loud noise every few secs02:46
orient2000maybe is is wireless simulator like winmodem :(02:47
snook353ok.  can you give to me preferences line - the original command?  i erased mine, blueskaj02:47
thompaim wondering if its because its incomplete or bad file or02:47
BluesKajwait til it's totally DL'd02:47
snook353i wouldn't think that would have to much to do with ktorrent, thompa02:47
thompasnook353: i know02:47
snook353i have probs too, with audio/vid sync, sometimes, thompa02:48
thompasnook353:  thats what i had on one too02:48
snook353yeah...i'm waitin for mplayer pre8 to be deb'ed02:48
BluesKajyou should wait til you have the whole file before trying to play it02:48
snook353yeah, thompa02:49
jbrouhardOkay.. anyone help me with a kubuntu wireless issue ?? :(02:49
thompaBluesKaj: ok, its an mpg on computer history I need02:49
thompai was wondering if its because its protected it makes that noise02:49
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BluesKajno, if just a partially DL'd file it won't play properly02:50
thompathanks02:50
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snook353blueskaj, i need to command that's somethin like x-terminal etc... in the preferences gui02:50
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thompaedgy kubuntu working great as of todays update btw02:51
BluesKajsnook353: which mode in preferences?02:52
snook353edit-preferences-applications-record a stream02:53
snook353blueskaj02:53
mutlu_inekthompa: good to hear, i am just upgrading02:53
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BluesKajsnook353:  x-terminal-emulator -e streamripper %q02:55
snook353thanks, blueskaj!  life-saver! :P02:55
BluesKajNP :)02:55
thompamutlu_inek: yep, it was a little unstable for a while02:57
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thompamutlu_inek: i mean my graphics were slow, now its really snappy02:58
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thompakmenu looks real nice now02:59
stanleydsokay, video plays (i'm playin xvid files)... audio&video seem to stay in sync but it plays a bit choppy when it plays anime (choppy enough to be annoying). played in both kaffeine and vlc. media player problem or video drivers problem?02:59
bmoanime _is_ choppy.03:00
mutlu_inek:)03:00
thompalol03:00
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stanleydslol :P03:00
bmo:-P03:00
thompastanleyds: did you do everything on restricted formats page03:00
stanleydseh? restricted formats page?03:00
thompahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats03:01
reinaldoalguem pode me ajudar????????03:01
thompastanleyds: i would do all the stuff here , takes about 10 minutes03:01
mutlu_inek!es03:01
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:01
stanleydshmmm... gotcha03:02
thompastanleyds: lots of folks miss something03:02
thompathen if it dont work its another problem03:02
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reinaldoalguem fala portugus????????03:04
BluesKaj!pt03:04
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.03:04
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slop2is there a way to set up a key combination to bring up the k menu?03:05
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reinaldo#ubuntu-br03:06
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CaBlGuY!konverter03:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:09
archangel_How can I get my ipod working with linux?03:10
mutlu_inekinstall amarok and plug it in03:11
archangel_hmmm03:11
archangel_k03:11
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ccherrettI am trying to install linuxsampler from source but the make -f Makefile.cvs tells me: make: aclocal: Command not found03:12
ccherrettI can fine aclocal with adept03:13
stanleydsooookay. went to restricted formats page. one of the things i gotta install is w32codecs. i downloaded the .deb file via wget and used the sudo dpkg command and got the message "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"03:13
mutlu_inekclose adept03:14
stanleyds...me?03:14
mutlu_inekyou can only have one apt program running03:14
mutlu_inekyes03:14
stanleydsah. oh.03:14
stanleydsohhhhh.03:14
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stanleydsthx ^__^03:14
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CaBlGuYwe got Konverter on the devs?03:15
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slop2is there a way to remove the main panel altogether?03:15
ccherrettI figured it out. It was in the automake package03:16
CaBlGuYslop2:  main panel, as in the....03:17
slop2the panel03:18
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slop2CaBlGuY, with the k menu and all that03:18
slop2CaBlGuY, i want to remove it completely03:18
slop2CaBlGuY, but 'remove panel' is grayed out03:18
CaBlGuYOhhh   U mean the taskbar..03:18
slop2yeah03:18
slop2i need it gone :D03:18
slop2i can hide it and all that, but i'd really like to just remove it03:19
slop2or make it permanently invisible03:19
CaBlGuYwell, all you gotta do is right click on the bar itself and select options..  and do it there..03:19
CaBlGuYshould be able to or..03:19
TFrogthose interested in how to get Frostwire/Limewire working with Edgy Eft, i've posted a "How To" on both ubuntu and kubuntu forums03:19
slop2CaBlGuY, yeah...but 'Remove Panel' is grayed out03:19
ccherrettI am getting this error when trying to create my configure file: aclocal: configure.in: 231: macro `AM_PATH_ARTS' not found in library03:19
archangel_I plug my ipod in and kubuntu knows its name and everything......sweet03:20
ccherrettI assume it means that it cannot find arts. The reason I say that is I had a simmilar error for libtools abd installing libtools solved it.03:20
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CaBlGuYyou can use the hide automaticaly option.03:20
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ccherrettnow when I install arts it says it is the newest version03:21
slop2CaBlGuY, but then it comes up when you hit the edge of a screen...this computer is for my 4 year old...she doesn't need any panel for anything03:21
slop2if its not possible, i can live with it...i'd just really like to get rid of it03:21
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CaBlGuYwelthen, you should start to teach her about paNEL,S then.. she's old enough..03:22
CaBlGuY:)03:22
slop2haha03:22
slop2trust me, i can't wait :)03:22
Zaireanyone in here know a good easily understood by dumb@$$'s help for setting up mysql-server?03:22
CaBlGuYU know u can lock em..03:22
CaBlGuYOR..03:22
CaBlGuYyou can make a new account just for her.. and she won't b able to do squat..03:22
archangel_Hey a dialog box popped up and it says mounting device. It is stuck at 0%.  why?03:23
CaBlGuY;)03:23
slop2yeah...i just made it only 4 percent wide, and i have a window list applet...plus its hidden03:23
archangel_ipod says do not disconnect03:23
slop2CaBlGuY, already made her an account....i just wanted to get rid of the panel, but i guess it has one use, in case i need to find a lost window or something for her03:23
ccherrettZaire: make sure that the permissions are set exactly like the mysql doc says in the install ation instructions03:23
slop2cool...this computer is 4yo friendly  :)03:24
CaBlGuYslop2: yep..   no biggy..  don't sress over the small stuff..03:24
slop2see ya!03:24
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ccherrettthen make sure you have your tmp dir set in my.cnf03:24
CaBlGuY:p03:24
wordhmmm..where in the settings can i see information on what's plugged into my serial port?03:24
ccherrettthat usually does it03:24
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Zairehmmm Im trying to setup a phpbb forum but I have yet to get the mysql DB to work with it03:25
CaBlGuYword:  open your home dir.   and on the left there's a little red flag..  click it and that'll show ya all the servcices ya got runnin..03:25
slopCaBlGuY, one more thing...03:26
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Zairecept Im running a plain cli server03:26
slophow do i make it so she can't right-click desktop icons?03:26
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ccherretthow do I determine what package is the development packages for arts?03:26
ZaireIm also using putty to do all my setup03:27
CaBlGuYslop:  hmmmmm    configur desktop..   and click behavior, general, and right button @ the bottom03:27
slopCaBlGuY, already did that....thats for right clicking the desktop...you can still right click icons though03:28
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CaBlGuYthat's only thing I know to do with the right click slop saawwreee...03:29
slopCaBlGuY, np, thanks :)003:29
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CaBlGuYI'm sure there's a mouse configur dealy in the control center somewhere more then likely..03:30
CaBlGuYword:  you get that last message?03:30
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CaBlGuYk im out..03:35
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archangel_does my ipod have to mount first?03:36
archangel_casue its hang'n at 0%03:37
archangel_cause*03:37
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tacomantimhas anyone here used freemind?03:38
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archangel_ipod help03:41
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BigIronHello I need a font viewer.03:54
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ccherretthow can I upgrade my install of automake from 1.4 to 1.5 with apt?03:58
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ccherrettis it possible?03:59
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stanleydshmmm... installed all that stuff... and tried it in mplayer along with the others.... no luck04:02
stanleydsvideo drivers maybe?04:02
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stanleydsi have a nvidia geforce mx 400004:02
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stanleydsahhhh, bump it. the wire is on04:03
archangel_anybody have a ipod working with linux?04:03
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mandohello04:04
mandowhere can i update the source.list ?04:04
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archangel_my ipod is recognized, but wont mount04:05
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pierreth_Does someone knows Gnucash here?04:05
mando#eglug04:06
mandoops04:06
mandosorry04:06
nzkNo burning to cd, installing, rebooting, NOTHING like that?04:06
mandohow can i update adept please04:07
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mandohmm no one here it seems04:09
mandotime for intensive googling04:10
Zairecan someone please send me a link on how to setup mysqly-server04:12
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unix_infidelZaire: the mysql website has plenty of good docs.04:15
mandoi need to update my adept repositories.. there was this website that generates the source.list file04:16
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suifurmando: google source-o-matic04:17
mandoyeah thats the one04:17
mandothank you :D04:17
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mandoand where was the source.list again ? *shy face*04:20
jbrouhardit's in /etc/apt/sources.list04:20
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mandothanks04:20
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digivore!version04:24
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.04:24
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digivore!dapper04:25
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"04:25
digivoredapper is still the latest?04:25
unix_infidellatest stable yes.04:25
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digivoreif i change my PATH items, do i have to start a new session before the paths will be set?04:26
Init5_can someone help me around EasyUbuntu, they seem not to be active on #easyubuntu04:27
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unix_infideldigivore: depends on how you setup path?04:27
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digivore/etc/environment04:28
unix_infideldigivore: for the system?04:28
pierreth_I am not am to enter -1000 in gnucash04:28
unix_infidelor for the user, that really makes no sense.04:28
unix_infideleither way.04:28
pierreth_i can enter -900, it is OK04:29
digivoreunix_infidel, what is the proper way?04:29
unix_infidel!path04:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:29
mandothis can sound silly lol.. but are there any good games for linux?04:29
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Jucato!games04:30
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php04:30
mandothat bot just knows everything :D04:30
Jucatoalmost :)04:30
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jbrouhardOkay04:31
jbrouhardanyone know why the ndiswrapper isn't available in edgy ?04:31
Jucatojbrouhard, if it isn't, you could probably try asking in #ubuntu+104:32
otaku-sanHey!  When did KDE have it's tenth?  Today?04:33
Jucatootaku-san, Oct 1404:33
otaku-sanJucato: ahhhh Yesterday....to me04:33
otaku-sanJucato: hey what's up?04:34
Jucatootaku-san, 2 days ago for me :)04:34
Jucatowhat's up? hm... not much :)04:34
otaku-sanhahaha...to much for me....you seen Hawkwind lately?04:34
Jucatonot really. I haven't been online much for the past week04:35
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otaku-sanJucato: Yeah...I was last on a few days ago....you heard about Debian creating new web browser over the Mozilla Suite one and Firefox?04:37
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JucatoIceweasel :)04:38
otaku-sanHahahahah!  Ya!04:39
otaku-san....hope Ubuntu isn't affected04:39
otaku-sanI'm a bit attached to my Firefox04:39
Jucatowell, there will still be the option to use the source code directly from MozCo if ever that happens04:40
otaku-sanmight try em' tho....seems the only difference is just not using features that allow non-free stuff04:40
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otaku-sanMozCo....heard about that the other day...what is it?  I thought it was for cell phones...for some reasons04:41
JucatoI think they also did a bit more (added/removed features, security stuff...)04:41
JucatoMozCo = Mozilla Corporation04:41
otaku-sanHahahah duh!04:41
otaku-san*slaps forehead*04:41
Jucato:P04:42
otaku-sanHave you used IceWeasel...or GnuZilla yet?04:42
Jucatonope. no reason to. I use Konqueror on Linux... but I haven't been on Linux for the past 7 days... *gasp*04:42
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JucatoI'll probably give it a try though.04:44
otaku-sanJucato: Oh man!!!!  What were you doing?  Were you actually having a life?  ;)  Same here...why not try it...I use Opera...and some Mozilla...so why not IceWeasel?04:44
otaku-sanTho' IceWeasel sounds like it's meant for IceBox....04:45
Jucatoheh04:46
RadiantFireit does doesn't it04:46
RadiantFireso entertaining04:46
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otaku-sanRadiantFire: when I heard about it...I was like....Debian?  Are they catering for IceBox?  hehehehe04:46
bmo"IceWeasel" sounds like a name coined by Pauly Shore04:47
otaku-sanI still crack up at the name though....IceWeasel just does not hold the same umph like Firefox04:47
otaku-sanPauly Shore?04:47
RadiantFireotaku-san: more reason for the gnome folks to just go with epiphany04:48
bmohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauly_Shore04:48
RadiantFirewhen i first heard they were looking for a rename Ii th ought they would name it something like "FlameWolf"04:49
bmoAt his first Spring Break gig, he unleashed his catchphrase, "weasel," on the world.04:49
RadiantFireapparently they decided to go the full opposite way04:49
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otaku-sanRadiantFire: I installed Gnome...and for some reason all of the Gnome apps...are on my KDE side....I think it's because I'm using GDM...instead of KDM...04:49
otaku-sanRadiantFire: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/  (This explains the name orgins)04:50
Jucatootaku-san, what do you mean "on my KDE side"?04:50
RadiantFiremaybe04:50
RadiantFireso I am very happy because bcm43xx works with my wireless card, I'm not so happy because its so insanely slow04:51
bmojeez, he dated kylie minogue?!04:51
otaku-sanJucato: I mean when I use KDE....I have several different WM installed...so I say their all sides04:51
RadiantFirego him...04:52
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otaku-sanJucato: if I use Gnome...I would say my Gnome side....04:52
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Jucatootaku-san, yes I understand that. I was asking what you meant by the GNOME apps being on your KDE side? They are supposed to be seen both in GNOME and KDE04:53
HawkwindJucato: Good evening04:53
JucatoHawkwind, hi! :)04:53
Hawkwindotaku-san: Nope, noone has seen Hawkwind lately :P04:53
Jucatolol04:53
JucatoHawkwind, I'm confined to 2-3 more days of no Linux... :(04:54
HawkwindOhhh, no power supply yet ?04:54
otaku-sanJucato:  They are???  So all of the things meant for Gnome can be seen in KDE?  Like Epiphiny?04:54
Jucatoand the worst part about using XP, is using XP on a system with only 258MB RAM...04:54
Jucatootaku-san, yes. and vice versa (KDE Apps should be visible in GNOME too).04:54
otaku-sanHawkwind: hehehe your so sly!  So do you have those icon sets up on your website?04:55
JucatoHawkwind, the "technician" has a different "theory" as to what's wrong. And him not knowing much (or anything at all) about Linux (he calls it "lie-nux")...04:55
Hawkwindotaku-san: http://SeerOfSouls.net/gallery   They are there if you want to look at them.  They are uploaded individually though04:55
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JucatoHawkwind, he says that the "problem" is the "OS"04:55
otaku-sanJucato: makes sense now....when I installed Gnome...I saw all of the Gnome apps in my KMenu...and was like...why?04:56
Homeryeah one thing is many GNOME apps are better then their KDE counterparts and visa versa04:56
Homerso alot of people use both04:56
HawkwindJucato: Hah.  Just go buy yourself a PSU and swap it out real quick.  Takes about 10 minutes04:56
otaku-sanHomer: Ya...like Gimp!04:57
JucatoHawkwind, I don't have enough hardware know-how to do that04:57
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Homeryeah GIMP/Inkscape04:57
Jucatothe GIMP... I missed playing with that little suckah! :)04:57
otaku-sanJucato: oh all things to reinstall in a box...the PSU is the simplist!04:57
HawkwindJucato: You don't need know how.  It's removing a couple of screws, pulling it out, putting the new one, replacing the screws04:57
Jucato... and making sure that the connections are correct...04:57
otaku-sanof* and simplest04:58
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otaku-sanJucato: and you use Linux?04:58
Homeran qt-gtk toolkit makes both gnome and kde applications look ... exactly the same04:58
Jucatoit might be the "simplest", but it's the scariest for me, because it's dealing with electricity04:58
HawkwindJucato: They are all labeled and only have one way they can go actually :)04:58
HawkwindJucato: LOL.  Make sure you unplug it completely :P04:58
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BlackenQuestion. I've got a directory of files. I need to rename all of them to "foo###.bar", where ### is incremented for every file.04:58
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otaku-sanHomer: K14 for me on vector stuff04:58
BlackenDoes anyone know of a way to do this? Shell-based, preferably (sshing)04:58
HomerI think inkscape is more featureful04:58
Jucatootaku-san, is Karbon now as usable as Inkscape?04:59
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HawkwindBlacken: The guys in #Bash could tell you real quick04:59
BlackenHawkwind: Probably true.04:59
max_can anyone help me update to Edgy Eft?04:59
otaku-sanHomer: ya....but the really sad layer thing at the bottom...erks me in Inkscape04:59
HomerI think you can customize all the toolbar and stuff04:59
Jucatootaku-san, layer thing at the bottom?04:59
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otaku-sanJucato: They're about even....the layer controls for pictures...is a bit lacking05:00
JucatoHawkwind, is it really possible that "the OS" can make your PC not power on at all? even if the hard disk is already disconnected?05:00
HawkwindBlacken: This isn't correct for you, but it will get you close:05:00
HawkwindBlacken: N=1 ;for X in $(find /misc/Icons5/ -name *.png ) ;do Q=`basename $X` ;N=$(( $N + 1 )) ;mv $X /misc/Icons-New17/$N$Q ;done05:00
BlackenHawkwind: Hm, makes sense. Thanks.05:00
Jucatohm... maybe K14 1.6... last time I tried to use Karbon14, I gave up and used Inkscape instead05:00
HawkwindBlacken: Probably just substitute directories and then change mv to cp or something05:01
HawkwindJucato: It's possible, but highly unlikely.  I'd check all connections in the box05:01
HawkwindJucato: If it's not powering on at all, then it's most likely the power supply05:01
JucatoHawkwind, the box won't even power up if I remove all IDE connections...05:01
HawkwindJucato: Then you can bet it's a power supply05:02
Jucatoyou know the weird part about it?05:02
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Jucatoit's working in his shop (internet/cyber cafe)05:02
HawkwindAt all times ?05:02
Jucatobut not at home (mine and his)05:02
Jucatowell, according to him05:02
HawkwindYeah, definitely a power supply then05:03
Jucatohe says that he's going to monitor it for 2-3 days. if it works there, he's going to reformat my HD because it's probably "the OS" causing the problem05:03
Jucatobut really, I find the reasoning a bit dubious... :(05:03
HawkwindIt's probably not completely dead. So moving it around makes it just right so it works.  Moving it again causes it to move around and not be *just right* so it won't work05:03
HawkwindJucato: I'd take it to someone else05:04
Jucatolol yeah05:04
max_hi, could anyone help me upgrade to edgy eft05:04
HawkwindJucato: Seriously....you could really change it yourself.  You can't go wrong05:04
Jucatomax_, you really need to upgrade right now?05:04
Hawkwindmax_: You do know it's not final nor stable yet ?05:04
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max_yes05:04
Hawkwindmax_: It still breaks on a daily basis05:04
JucatoHawkwind, oh, you don't know how many times I've gone wrong :)05:04
max_yes i know05:05
Hawkwindmax_: Talk to the guys in the Edgy channel, #Ubuntu+105:05
max_and Hawkwind, thaks for the other day, what you said got p7zip workin05:05
max_thanks05:05
otaku-sanmax_: and good luck!05:05
max_thank you05:05
HawkwindJucato: I thought the same thing when it came to working on my PC the first time years back.  Now it's a piece of cake05:05
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otaku-sanI like to take apart my boxen once in alwhile for fun05:06
HawkwindJucato: That's how I got my Texans/Dolphins tickets this year.  Helped my neighbor build a new box.  He went from a 350MHz PC to a 2.8GHz Pentium D dual core05:06
otaku-san*awhile05:06
JucatoHawkwind, well, this wouild be my first time, and my only box. so I'm a bit nervous to do it on my own05:06
Jucatowow05:06
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HawkwindJucato: What's funny about it is, I only went with him to the store to pick out the right parts.  He assembled everything.  Then I setup XP Pro and dual monitors.  Did nothing more05:06
Jucatowell, I'm a bit familiar with changing/replacing RAM, hard disks and CD-ROM's, video cards, etc. not yet with power supplies05:07
HawkwindJucato: So he bought me the tickets for helping him get the right stuff and setup with XP Pro with a corporate key :)05:07
Jucatoheh05:07
HawkwindJucato: If you can change those, then you can surely change a power supply.  It's so darn simple, seriously05:07
otaku-san*slaps self for sad attempt at boast*  Jucato...it's not that bad...it's always hard to start on fixing/making a box...it's all in your head05:07
Jucatoseriously?05:07
Jucatohmm...05:07
HawkwindJucato: I'm dead serious man05:07
JimmyGreendogThe only trick is turning it off before you begin. :)05:08
HawkwindJucato: It's like verything else, it can really only go one way, and everything that gets hooked up is so simple.  It's just a matter of plugging in the power adapters from your drives05:08
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pierrethWhere can I have help about Gnucash?05:08
otaku-sanOH, and make sure you touch a side of the metal case...so you don't fry stuff05:08
HawkwindJucato: Demand you want a new PSU, simple as that05:08
HawkwindAnd don't wear socks if it's cold while working on the box :P05:09
Jucatohm.. that might take a few more days, though. oh well :)05:09
Jucatohm... cold... what's that? :)05:09
otaku-sanHawkwind: .....your a crazy man....all those icons...so much uploading!05:09
HawkwindJucato: Not sure.  The northern parts of the USA talk about it all the time.  Here in Houston we don't have *cold weather* :(05:10
Jucatoit sucks that I don't know anyone around here who even knows about Linux... :(05:10
Hawkwindotaku-san: That's only half of my collection.  There's only 38,000+ icons there05:10
JucatoI mean, around my place05:10
HawkwindJucato: Time for you to make that change then :P05:10
HawkwindJucato: Setup a LUG05:10
HawkwindOrder 50 free CD's from shipit and teach them :)05:10
JucatoO_O05:11
Jucatobig responsiblity, man... big responsibility05:11
otaku-sanHawkwind: o.0  Whoa....so how do I find out what icon set they are?05:11
Jucatobesides, I'm definitely not a "people-type" person05:11
HawkwindJucato: Makes a lot of friends, then you have others in your area that know about linux :)05:11
Jucatoand a whole bunch of people asking me questions that I can't answer... :(05:11
otaku-sanHouston eh?  Hmmm familiar territory...grew up there05:11
Jucatospecially hardware and networking stuff...05:12
Hawkwindotaku-san: These aren't icon sets like for KDE and such really.  They are just icons I've found on the net over 5 years05:12
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Hawkwindotaku-san: I've lived here for 32 out of my 35 years of life unfortunately :(05:12
JucatoHawkwind, have you made KDE 3.5.5 already available in SoS?05:12
HawkwindJucato: For Dapper ?05:12
Jucatoor for Mandriva :P05:12
otaku-sanHawkwind: HAHAHAHA oh man...I feel for you...it's not that bad tho'....traffics a .....well a bad word05:12
digivore!xine05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
HawkwindI'm not that experienced at building debs quite yet and haven't had the 2 - 3 days to spare to build it for Mandriva05:13
digivore!xine-lib05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine-lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
Hawkwinddigivore: libxine-extracodecs maybe ?05:13
notechi'd do more than just touch the case when working in a box. use a grounding strap05:13
Hawkwindnotech: You hold up a grounding rod too :P05:14
notechonly in lightning :)05:14
otaku-sanheard having the PSU on while it's in the box helps to ground it...or something05:15
Jucatoa few days ago, my sister's unit (the one I'm using right now) was "grounded" so I had quite a shocking experience...05:15
Jucatothat's why I'm not so keen on touching the PSU recently..05:16
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digivorewhat do you do with a .deb file?05:16
notechsounds like it wasn't grounded05:16
Jucatobut anyway, I just needed/wanted to confirm if Linux/Kubuntu/an OS can really do that to PC05:16
otaku-sanJucato: hehehe poor man...no wonder PSUs freak you out05:17
linuxbombground strap hahahahahha05:17
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digivorewhat does it mean when a file is in red text in a directory listing ?05:17
notechif you want to chance frying parts, don't use one. your choice.05:17
JucatoI mean, if an OS could cause the system not to power up/on even if the hard disk isn't connected... @_@05:17
notechbad link is red05:18
linuxbombJucato: hell no05:18
Jucatodigivore, a broken link afaik05:18
linuxbombok no freaking way unless it flashed the bios05:18
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Jucatowell, we did have several and abrupt power interruptions/fluctations before my box started fscking up. that's why I'm presuming it's a PSU issue05:19
linuxbombif it has 12 and 5 and 3.3 volts and no sign of life then its the cpu / motherboard05:19
notechmight need a better surge protector05:19
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Jucatonotech, might need a better voltage regulator or even a UPS... :(05:20
Jucatolinuxbomb, um.. run that by me again, in plain English?05:20
linuxbombif it has 12 and 5 and 3.3 volts and no sign of life then its the cpu / motherboard05:20
linuxbombJucato: ya got a voltmeter?05:21
notechi was getting power disruptions so bought a UPS and the power has only gone off once since05:21
Jucatonotech, heheh05:21
Jucatolinuxbomb, um nope?05:21
linuxbombJucato: then why are you trying to fix a computer?05:22
Hawkwindlinuxbomb: He's not05:22
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notechi'll bet it was a store bought pc, ready built. those usually have very small and cheap power supplies05:22
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Jucato??? :(05:24
Jucatonotech, it wasn't bought ready built. this "technician" neighbor of mine bought it for me and assembled it05:24
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linuxbombWhat ya think of the pentium M dual core processors ?05:25
notechah, i see. well i don't run any power supplies with less than 500 watts05:25
Jucatolol... this one is 300W only :)05:25
notechnot enough in my opinion05:26
linuxbombJucato: what processor do you have?05:26
JucatoAMD Sempron 2200 (1.5 GHz)05:26
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linuxbombthe processor might eat up 130 watts max05:26
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notechmight be able to just pull the power supply and take it to a local shop and have them test it05:27
linuxbombnotech: do you have a paper clip?05:27
JucatoAMD Sempron 2200 (1.5 Ghz), 2 pcs. 512MB DDR-RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX, 2 Hard disks, 1 CD Writer, 1 DVD-ROM <--- what I have connected05:28
notechfor what?05:28
linuxbombjumper the purple wire to the black wire on the power supply05:28
linuxbombwhite to black sorry05:28
Hawkwindlinuxbomb: It's not notech that has a faulty PSU05:28
HawkwindLOL05:28
HawkwindSo you're telling the wrong person05:28
linuxbomboops05:29
Jucatonotech, yeah, probably. I just brought it to the guy who bought and assembled it for me first. but it seems that he's blaming "the OS"05:29
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notechhe's not wanting to do something he's not sure about. taking it in to be tested is easiest for him05:29
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Jucatolinuxbomb, I don't have the box with me right now... it's still with the "technician"05:29
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Jucatothis sucks... really... :(05:29
linuxbombif you jumper those then the power supply should come on unless its dead , ie the fan will turn05:29
King_Bradhow would i "start a new session in nested window" in kde? (or a diffrent nix disto)05:30
JucatoKing_Brad, a new session in a nested window, you'd probably need something like Xnest or Xephyr (not sure which is better)05:31
bmoxnest05:31
King_Bradi c05:31
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Jucatofor a different *nix distro, you'd be better of with using VMWare05:31
King_Bradis that avail in kubuntu?05:31
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bmoit's available for all computers that use x05:31
HawkwindKing_Brad: sudo apt-get install vmware-player05:32
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King_BradJucato: i have opensuse on a server in my workshop that supports xdmcp and i would like to use a "nested window" login so i can admin it from my desk...05:32
JucatoI miss my PC... :(05:32
King_Bradthats why i ask :)05:32
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JucatoKing_Brad, ah that's a different case :)05:32
King_Brad:)05:32
i\oAdept says that another program is running so it can't.. but there isn't one.. how can I fix that?05:32
King_Bradno worries, i like kubuntu05:33
King_Bradjust need opensuse for my thinserver :)05:33
Jucatoi\o, type this in Konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a05:33
i\oJucato, thanks!05:33
Jucatolol aseigo's dancing around :)05:34
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Jucatoit's during times like these that I wish some KDE apps were cross platform... :(05:35
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King_Bradwelp i got xnest installed.... but cant launch it from run command....05:36
King_Bradwts?05:36
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JucatoKing_Brad, I think you need some arguments to go with Xnest05:36
King_Bradahhh05:36
King_Bradthere we go05:36
Jucatonot really sure how to do it.05:37
King_BradXnest is the run cmd05:37
King_Bradnow to find out the switches05:37
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soundmaster80i was just wondering if edgy is still on track to be released this month05:38
JucatoI think so, yes05:39
soundmaster80is there a timeline anywhere on it?05:39
Jucato!schedule05:39
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:39
soundmaster80i can't seem to find it on the site05:39
Jucatosoundmaster80, ^^^^^^05:39
King_Bradwow05:39
BlackenThat was the strangest thing I have seen in quite some time. I added a user to my machine...and /home got chmodded 700.05:40
King_Bradxdmcp really works05:40
King_Bradwithout any config'ing05:40
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soundmaster80another thing05:40
soundmaster80does anyone in here use jinzora for music05:40
BlackenOkay, so user permissions are confusing me here. I need ~/public_html to be visible to all users (or at least to the apache user) but I don't want ~ visible to people. Can this be done without a kludge?05:41
Dr_willisnever heard of it05:41
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JucatoBlacken, just change the permission for ~/public_htm only?l05:41
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soundmaster80well, i don't think it's the problem that i think about it...i have been trying to use the flash xspf player and it doesn't appear, however it is supposed to work with flash player 705:42
soundmaster80i realize this isn't the place for it. i just wondered if anyone else has had issues with it05:43
Dr_willisMark Shuttleworth Becomes the First Patron of KDE      http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/05:43
Dr_willis:)05:43
JucatoDr_willis, yeah :)05:43
Jucatokool ain't it? :)05:43
Dr_williswell if i was a Multi-ba-zallionare....05:43
Dr_willis:)05:43
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King_Bradwhat did he donate alot of $$$ to the kde foundation or somethin?05:44
soundmaster80it seems odd that gnome is the main desktop when the founder is more inclinded to use KDE05:44
Jucatosoundmaster80, he started Ubuntu years ago. and he uses GNOME on his laptop (which he uses more than his desktop, which is KDE)05:45
tehpwnz0ru like kde or gnome better?05:45
Dr_willisKing_Brad,  yea. hes now the first 'kde' patron. i guess that means he will be investing $$$ for some time.05:45
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soundmaster80kde, no questions and hands down05:45
King_Bradi think gnome is a little better05:45
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King_Bradfor stability05:45
tehpwnz0ri like gnome better05:45
King_Bradkde looks better tho05:45
tehpwnz0rits less apple like05:45
tehpwnz0rits akward gui05:45
soundmaster80from my experience kde is much more customizeable05:45
tehpwnz0ri like gnome terminal05:45
Dr_willisI find using gnome to be like  having one arm tied down...05:46
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soundmaster80exactly05:46
Jucatook let's not get into too much -offtopic here :)05:46
tehpwnz0rhow do i connect to other roms or servers,a dn how do i get the server list05:46
soundmaster80lol, yeah i didnt mean to start a arguement05:47
tehpwnz0r*rooms05:47
Hawkwindtehpwnz0r: /join #Channel05:47
Jucatotehpwnz0r, to join other rooms, /join #channel05:47
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BluDog_Anchoritetehpwnz0r: /list05:47
Jucatoto get a list of available rooms /list05:47
soundmaster80does anyone in here use amarok for their ipod?05:47
Jucatoand get ready to lag05:47
Hawkwindtehpwnz0r: You can do /list or /msg chanserv list *search-term* with the *'s to look for channels with certain words in them05:47
soundmaster80i am curious to see if anyone can personally compare it to itunes?05:48
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Dr_willisnot me.. i wont buy an ipod.. and i wont touch itunes. :)05:49
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soundmaster80well, the ipod is the easiest for podcasts and mp3 by far IMHO...however when i move to Linux i will have to find something sutible05:50
orient2000ipoder?05:50
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soundmaster80no, that just downloads them05:50
soundmaster80the thing about itunes is that i just plug it in and that's it05:51
soundmaster80i configure obviously but afterwards it's just plugging in05:51
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orient2000is itunes on adept?05:51
unix_infidellol.05:51
unix_infidelnow that's a goodone :P05:51
soundmaster80lol05:52
King_Bradwhat window manager does kubuntu use?05:52
King_Bradkdm?05:52
orient2000thre is nothing from windows in here05:52
JucatoKing_Brad, KWin05:52
King_Bradk05:52
King_Bradthx05:52
CVirusKing_Brad: Kubuntu uses KDE as its Desktop Environment, while KDE uses Kwin as its window manager05:53
King_BradKWin and Kwin arent isntalled on my system.... but kdm is...05:53
orient2000KDE is like windows like05:53
King_Bradso i guess kdm would be my window manager...05:53
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King_Bradah05:53
King_Bradall lowercase05:53
King_Bradthx guys05:54
JucatoKing_Brad, no. KDE = K Desktop Environment, KWin = KDE Window Manager, KDM = KDE Display Manager05:54
King_Bradalmost got this xnest figured out05:54
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JucatoKing_Brad, yeah, Linux is very case sensitive05:54
morghanphoenixwhat's the dpkg end tag to fix dependancies05:54
King_Bradyea i noticed hehe05:55
unix_infidelorient2000: soon the wine project will be able to run itunes.05:55
unix_infidelnot necessarily wine, but maybe cxoffice05:56
orient2000what happen if I choose grub manager in kdm?05:56
King_Bradumm, in this tutorial i am reading on how to use xnest, he says to use twm (the window manager) but, says any windows manager will work.. ayways, he says to use twm -display :2 to launch the xnest session05:56
King_Bradbut when i do this, it tells me it cannot connect to display :205:56
King_Bradany idea where i am going wrong?05:56
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argonauticohi to all05:57
Homerit's possible to use gdm instead of kdm right?05:58
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JucatoHomer, yes, but I don't think you'd be able to have some features like Restart or Shutdown when you're in KDE and you used GDM. not 100% sure05:59
Jucatoorient2000, you get options to restart your system to a specific entry in your GRUB/menu.lst. I haven't gotten it to work, though05:59
JucatoI guess it only works if GRUB is installed in MBR of hda06:00
Dr_willisJucato,  i think you hafe to enable that feature06:00
argonauticoI trying to use morpheus with wine but it the icon just keeps bouncing and does nothing06:00
unix_infidelargonautico: there are a lof ot FT p2p apps out there.06:01
JucatoDr_willis, orient2000 was asking what "enabling that feature" does06:01
unix_infidelyou dont need morpheus.06:01
orient2000I have only one HD and only kubuntu. You think I shoud restart (boot) with no problem?06:01
orient2000other HD with windows are enabled for the last 3 months.06:02
orient2000sorry, they are disabled.06:02
orient2000I do not want to screw my system.06:03
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Jucatoorient2000, I don't think that setting touches GRUB or menu.lst directly. but like I said, I'm not sure because I haven't gotten it to work, even if I enabled it in KDM (Login Manager in System Settings)06:03
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stanleydsfound the prob. was the drivers. installed the nvidia drivers and everything plays beautifully now..... and if i didn't know any better... it looks like it's playin better than it did in xp. this is kickass stuff.06:04
HomerI actually really like the enlightenment display manager06:04
Homerbrb06:04
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argonauticoso, what program should you suggest to me?06:10
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Lam_where's the trash folder located in kde?06:13
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thompakubuntu edgy is amazing06:14
thompaeverything running real fast now06:15
OODcan anyone send me an edgy sources.list file?06:15
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intelikeygood howdy do.06:16
thompaOOD: go through your sources.lst and change 'dapper' to 'edgy' the whole way through06:16
OODhah, i forgot to press the apply button *slaps self*06:17
intelikeyany somebody might answer me, howto get applications in the twm menu ?06:17
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thompaOOD: are you running nvidia by chance06:17
T3hWiz0rdthere we go06:17
T3hWiz0rdscreened irssi sessions... yummy06:17
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T3hWiz0rdcc/clear06:17
T3hWiz0rdwow06:17
T3hWiz0rdhmmm06:17
thompaOOD: then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:18
OODyeah it's all fine now06:18
intelikeyirssi is "screened" by default.   no?06:18
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T3hWiz0rdintelikey: no06:18
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: i forgot to do it lol06:18
thompaOOD: i had big problems getting nvidia, xorg, and restricted modules setup06:18
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intelikeyyou mean irssi running in screen ?06:19
thompabut i hope its fixed now06:19
OODi had a problem with todays update06:19
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OODscrewed my edgy install completely06:19
thompaOOD: are you running nvidia06:19
OODi just got it back up after hours of waster time06:19
intelikeyit has it's place, it's place is just not on my box.06:19
OODyes, but it wasn't an nvidia specific problem06:19
OODat least i dont think it is06:19
thompaid like to know if nvidia-glx is installable06:19
OODit is06:20
thompai had a total mismatch, it was installing the wrong packages and i had to manually purge stuff06:20
orient2000If you are the only user you can do ALT F2 kdm and aotorestrt so you can boot with no password. Do not click apply, click OK and then reboot. Apply will black out your screen and you have to reset. I guess it is some kind of error. I am happy to reboot with no password now.06:20
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intelikeyorient2000 i have passwordless consoles  :)06:21
orient2000same way?06:22
intelikeyno06:22
intelikeyhas to be an init script06:22
orient2000how did you do it?06:22
orient2000more? what script?06:23
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intelikeynot a good way. but a line in /etc/rc.local like this will give you the idea. "su - <username> -- openvt -fc 24 "06:24
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intelikeyit's [right-alt] +[f12]   for quick access to it.06:25
t3hwiz0rd-ibookintelikey: hope there isn't a policy about duplicate sessions in here.06:25
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookintelikey: im logged in 3 times lol06:25
t3hwiz0rd-ibookintelikey: t3hwiz0rd-ibook, T3hWiz0rd, t3hwiz0rd-server06:25
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intelikeynot that i know of.  but clones are frowned upon in irc in general.06:25
t3hwiz0rd-ibookintelikey: why?06:25
intelikeybecause of all the script/bot attacks06:26
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intelikeywhen one ip logs in more than twice it's often a sign of up comming scripts06:26
t3hwiz0rd-ibookintelikey: im not botting though i just rotate between 3 computers often lol06:27
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookintelikey: well if anyone ever warns me i'll always take one offline06:27
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbrb06:28
intelikeylike i said i don't know of any policy in here.   but you can check the webpage   it's in the greeting message when you connect.06:28
t3hwiz0rd-serverhmmm06:28
intelikeyany somebody might answer me, howto get applications in the twm menu ?06:28
intelikeymy twm menu is all but blank.06:28
t3hwiz0rd-serveri may just keep this shell open and use it on my ibook06:29
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t3hwiz0rd-serveri am becomming too much of a shell junkie anyway06:29
intelikeynobody ?06:30
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Dr_willisHeh06:31
Dr_willisi thogh twm read stuff in a directory06:31
t3hwiz0rd-serverDr_willis: are you laughing at me foo06:31
Dr_willisi aint used it in years06:31
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Dr_willisNo manual entry for twm06:32
Dr_willisBlasphmy!06:32
intelikeylol06:32
intelikeydoc you don't have twm installed06:32
Dr_willishttp://www.uwo.ca/its/doc/hdi/x11/x4-twm.html06:32
Dr_willisthats possible. :P06:32
Dr_willisi perfer wmx for a uber-light window manager06:33
Dr_willisbut it aint been updated in years...06:33
intelikeyhow light ?06:34
t3hwiz0rd-serveras light as a fat girl on atkins06:34
Dr_willisI thnk the whole source is less tehn a mb.. and it compiles in like 10 sec.06:34
intelikeytwm  Size: 9544806:34
intelikeybites06:34
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intelikeythat's not source tho06:35
Dr_willistheres some option needed to compule wmx however with the new gcc's i forget what it is.06:35
Dr_williswmx gets its menu from a directory.. put softlinks/scripts in there to get your menu.06:35
Dr_willisIts nifty in that it has 'sideways' title bars. :)06:35
Dr_willis $HOME/.twmrc  and theres a system wide twmrc it seems06:35
intelikeyhmmm well twm is functioning properly and i like twm ok (as much as i use a gui hehhe)  but it's menu is bare.06:36
intelikey /usr/lib/X11/twm/system.twmrc  <<--- that one ?06:37
Dr_willisusr/share/doc/twm/examples06:37
Dr_willisseems to have some also.06:37
Dr_willis:P im just reading the man pages and looking. Lol06:37
intelikeyk06:38
intelikeyme too06:38
Dr_willisgrrr my fileserver is down! argh!06:38
Dr_willishmm.. wtf..06:38
Dr_willisdown to the basement i go!06:38
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t3hwiz0rd-serverDr_willis: don't let your mom catch you ;-)06:41
intelikeyhmmm applied the example "keith.twmrc"   i like the menu design but there is still no apps.... surely there must be a script or something to add all the x-apps to the menu06:42
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Dr_willisthe wife is sittin ghere.. Playing some Dogz Game for the GameBoy on her pc.. :P06:42
intelikeyt3hwiz0rd-server hehhe  like to live dangerously do ya ?06:42
Dr_willisIm not sure twm can handle ALL the apps.06:43
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intelikeyDr_willis i have seen it have the full list of apps in the menu before.  but this menu has no apps.06:43
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intelikeyi mean iconify raise and lower   is about it.06:44
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t3hwiz0rd-serverDr_willis: lol...06:44
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intelikeyxkill    i guess it does have one app06:44
t3hwiz0rd-serverintelikey: lol...06:44
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Pensacolawhen I start konqueror I get this error: usr/lib/kde/konq_iconview.so: indefined symbol06:48
Pensacolait happened after the last update06:48
Healotrm -rf kubuntu :)06:48
Pensacolaremove kubuntu?06:49
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easrathey06:49
easratare you there06:49
Healoti just like that tagline :)06:49
Pensacola:D06:50
easratyeah06:50
easrathave you seen one guy passing by06:50
easratoh ok then i gotta go, it was nice meetin you06:50
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intelikeyi think he went  ----->  that'a way.06:51
easratwhat was he wearing06:51
intelikeyan irc client06:51
t3hwiz0rd-serveri've been called 9 different fowl words in the past 3 minutes... lol06:52
intelikeyyou didn't expect him to be in here naked did you?06:52
intelikeypigon06:52
intelikeymake it 1006:52
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intelikeypigeon   even06:53
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Lam_what the hell is the point in using kde wallet if knetworkmanager asks you for the network's access password anyways?06:58
intelikeyLam_ it gives hackers another file to get your personal info from ???06:59
Lam_bah06:59
intelikey:)06:59
Lam_is there a way at least to make knetworkmanager stop accessing kde wallet?07:00
intelikeyah come on play the game....07:00
Lam_or would you not know?07:00
intelikeyi would not know.07:00
Lam_fair enough :P07:00
intelikeythat's all pointy clicky terratory07:00
Jucatolol07:00
intelikeybut i bet ya john the ripper can get your passwd out of your kwallet  :)07:01
intelikeysay Jucato.   how is ya ?07:02
Jucatostill "forced" to use the dreaded OS on a PC that is not mine :)07:02
intelikeymy heart bleedssssss07:03
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intelikeywell maybe some day.07:03
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Jucatoyeah.. hopefully...07:04
intelikeyJucato what part of the "project" is yours ?07:05
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Jucatowhat "project"?07:05
intelikeykubuntu07:05
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intelikeyare'nt you part of the teem now ?07:05
intelikeyaren't07:05
Jucatoum... in a way, yes...07:05
Jucatomostly I do support stuff. Helping in IRC, forums, etc. haven't really gotten down (and dirty) into Kubuntu...07:06
Jucatospecially not right now, since I'm not even using Linux...07:06
intelikeyso just wondering what to blame on you... oh i see.   i thought you were helping with edgy07:07
Jucatohah no.07:07
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Jucatoyou don't have anything to blame on me. at least not yet... :P07:07
intelikey:)07:07
intelikeywell as above.  maybe some day  :)07:08
Jucatoprobably edgy+1... if I can really drag myself to do something productive07:08
intelikeyok, great.  well i'll let you get back to work.   peace dude07:09
JucatoI have no work to do right now...07:09
intelikeyoh.  then it's your dime07:10
Jucatothis dreaded OS is really dragging me down... :(07:10
JucatoI can barely get anything Linux-related done...07:10
intelikeyyeah.   hey i could dcc you a virus   :)07:10
Jucatolol07:10
intelikeywould it help ?07:10
intelikeyi have a pretty nasty one...07:11
intelikey:)07:11
Jucatono it wouldn't :)07:11
Jucatowell, it would probably help if I wanted to annoy my sister07:11
Jucato(this is her PC)07:11
intelikeyok.    well just trying to help any way i can.07:11
Jucato:)07:12
intelikey:)07:12
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intelikeydon't know off hand how twm updates the menu do you ?07:12
intelikeymy twm menu is vacent07:13
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Jucatoum no07:13
intelikeyi could edit the rc file  but that don't seem very productive... there is surely a script or something.07:14
intelikeybut it's nothing important anyway.07:14
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zen_ok im losta gain07:23
zen_i have two things i wanna do07:23
Dr_willishmm07:23
zen_on eis install a printer driver for my lexmark x7170 all in one printer07:23
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zen_and the other is07:24
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zen_i want to make the last stage of a file to make my compiz work07:24
zen_withthe xgl07:24
zen_but lets do the lexmark forst07:24
zen_cos the other is not so urgent07:24
dude_!xgl07:25
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:25
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zen2i have got all the files installed  i just need to configure it to run07:26
zen2but lets get back to the lexmark07:26
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Dr_willisFirst thing for the printer is to check the cups.org page to se eif its even supported.07:27
osiriswhat is the name of the cli tool (ncurses based i think) for toggling processes per run level07:27
intelikeyzen_ ist here a nych ance th at yo uwoul dgetm or ehelp i fpeo ple coul dactu all yre adwha ty out yped ?     please disreguard my typos...07:28
zen2yep ther eis07:28
Dr_willislexmark x7170  does seem to have linux support.. lets google some more on it.. :)07:28
zen2i got all you said straight away07:28
zen2yeah i went to lexmarks site they had redhat and suse files07:29
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zen2they are tar.gz files07:29
Dr_willisof course hopefully the cups guys used the info and made pdd files for it.07:29
Dr_willisunless the thing is vey very new07:30
zen2ohh so pdd is a file type07:30
zen2nah 2 years old07:30
intelikeyshould be supported in cupsys-driver-gimpprint07:31
intelikeyno ?07:31
Dr_willisNo idea.07:31
Dr_willisMy printer is 10 years old. :P07:31
zen2hmm that did not make sense to me07:31
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Dr_willisI just found some info on that printer in the ubuntu forums07:31
intelikeysudo apt-get install cupsys-driver-gimpprint07:32
zen2can i get the link07:32
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intelikeyoh Dr_willis for breezy/dapper/edgy/ ?07:32
Dr_willisreading it now. :)07:32
Dr_willishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7781707:33
zen2Setting up cupsys-driver-gimpprint (5.0.0~rc2-0ubuntu6) ...07:33
zen2zennix@zennix-desktop:~$07:33
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rawri have put my self in a bad place.07:35
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rawrreintalled kubuntu and now the internet don't work07:35
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zen2ok i just read it07:35
zen2im not likeing the look of that07:36
zen2looks like no support07:36
intelikeyoh no the internet is not working.... oh wait you mean you can't connect to the inet...  wheew  had me worried... rawr     all joking aside  what errors do you get ?07:36
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rawrcan't find host i think it was07:37
rawrdurring install there was07:37
rawrcan't updatedequirity07:37
intelikey!wifi07:38
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:38
rawrits a wire modem07:38
rawrethernet cable07:38
intelikey!cable07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
rawrweird to think it worked before i reinstalled...07:38
rawrbut screws on me now07:39
rawrAnd also strangly anouth firefox didn't come wwith it......07:39
Dr_williszen2,  from what i am reading lexmark has info out on that printer.. but its not in the cups stuff yet.. as far as i can tell and the scanner part - has some other drivers out.07:39
rawroh well07:40
intelikeyrawr not really so wierd.  probably something didn't quite copy correctly.    and firefox does not come with kubuntu.   you can install ff when you get the network working.07:40
rawrdidn't know that07:40
Dr_willisPrice When Reviewed: $150   - wow that printer can do a lot for $15007:40
rawrbut yet again it was a very long time since i first installed07:41
Dr_willisBut i will stick with my 10 yr old printer. :P07:41
zen2ok so im doomed for now07:41
zen2thanks anyway07:41
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Dr_williszen2,  im getting where i perfer network enabled printers.07:41
zen2yeah is a dam fine system07:41
rawrHey wait a min..... i didn't format my /home .07:42
zen2yep makes more sense to me too07:42
intelikeyDr_willis any chance you could get rawr's eth0 up for him07:42
Dr_willisat least lexmark acknoledges that Linux Exists...07:42
Dr_willisCanon dont even want to do that.07:42
rawrcause i had my crap on it07:42
zen2yeah07:42
Dr_willisIts 2 am here..i am about to hit the bed07:42
rawrperhaps that causes problems?07:42
intelikeyrawr that should not affect the network07:42
Dr_willisI dont see how  home would affect it. :)07:42
intelikeybut i'm network illeterate07:42
Dr_willis#1 - check ALL your network settings.. :)07:43
rawrI am just so used to plugin things and them working.07:43
Dr_willis#2 ping the gateway, other machines,  dns servers..07:43
intelikeycable modem  ^07:43
rawrand unfortantly i am currently in windows07:43
rawrdsl modem.07:43
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rawri was only refering to it n ot bieng wifi sorry about that07:44
Dr_willisjot down the ip for google. (or an ip for them) if you can ping the ip, but not the www.google.com    ----> that imples a dns server setting07:44
Dr_willisif you cant ping either, and cant ping the gateway.   -> net card config issues.07:44
rawri see07:44
intelikey!dsl07:45
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE07:45
rawranything else i should look at while i am booted07:45
Dr_willischeck dmesg output also - to see  if the card is seen right...07:45
rawri just hate windows so much..07:45
intelikeyrawr take notes...   cause he won't be here to gripe at when you get back.07:45
rawril copy the conv.07:45
rawrsave in my shared partiion tween wwindows and ku.07:46
rawrdmesg output?07:46
Dr_willisdmesg command :)07:46
intelikeyyes  and also read  --->   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE07:47
rawr@.@07:47
Dr_williswell its late for me.. night07:47
rawrthanks for the help i hope everything works07:47
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intelikeydmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer        dmesg is used to examine or control the kernel ring buffer.       The program helps users to print out their bootup messages.  Instead of07:48
intelikey       copying the messages by hand, the user need only:07:48
intelikey              dmesg > boot.messages07:48
intelikey       and mail the boot.messages file to whoever can debug their problem.07:48
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intelikeythat's from the  "man dmesg "07:49
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rawri think i may have anouth info07:51
rawrthanks07:51
Ayabarahow do I add a host key to .ssh/known_hosts? (or disable strict checking of keys)07:51
rawrhopefully next time il be helping people not whining my ass off night07:52
adr1anI tried to install kubuntu 6.06 on amd64 platform and i encounterd problems whish i think are related to my ati x800gto video card. Can someone please tell me what to do in order for me to properly install kubuntu. Thx in advance07:52
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intelikey!ati07:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:53
intelikey!malone07:53
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/07:53
adr1anthx07:53
intelikeyman Ayabara i don't know but have you looked   " man ssh-copy-id ;man ssh-keygen ;man ssh-keyscan "  ???07:56
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T3hWiz0rdintelikey: day 2 has officially ended and kubuntu has been going on rock-steady.07:57
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Ayabaraintelikey, I took a quick look, but the man page said so much that I tried to use you guys as a shortcut :-) thanks07:57
Ayabaraahh, no, I just checked man for ssh07:58
intelikeyt3hwiz0rd  ah well i can't always be right.    it's not fair to the rest of ya.07:59
intelikey:)07:59
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: why are you so doubtful of debian?08:00
intelikeyi'm not.  but this is not debian.08:00
T3hWiz0rdkubuntu is debian08:00
intelikeyi know it's build from debian packages08:00
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intelikeybut it08:00
T3hWiz0rdkubuntu is a debian os lol08:00
intelikeyoops.  but it's not debian.08:00
intelikeyno it's not.08:00
T3hWiz0rdhow is it not a debian?08:01
intelikeymany things are compiled differently than their debian ancestors08:01
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: its still a debian os, even if it is a little custom08:02
intelikeytell that in #debian  :)08:02
T3hWiz0rdthe people in #debian haven't seen daylight in 20 years08:02
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intelikeybut you know more about their code than they do ???08:03
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intelikeyi mean saying ubuntu = debian   is almost like saying debian = bsd because it has many bsd apps....08:05
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momallol? 2 people fighting over something that no one cares about lol !!!08:05
intelikeywhere momal ?08:05
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momalthe ubuntu and debian thingo you and t3hwizord are talking about lol!08:06
intelikeytalking about != fight08:06
momallol fight to me :p08:07
rredd4is there a way to disable the sound when the desktop appears?  without killing all of the sound..08:07
momalanyone arguing points betwen each other is a fight :p08:07
intelikeyoh then you and i must be fighting also momal08:07
intelikey:)08:07
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momalindeed... if you say its not a fight and i do then we are :p08:08
intelikeyrredd4 yes.  in the system > something.....  i forget...08:08
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momalrredd4: system settings> sounds multimedia>system notifications... should be in there somewhere :D08:08
AyabaraI always prefer fighting people who don't know they're in a fight. makes it easier to convince myself I won.08:09
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intelikeyAyabara hehhe08:09
momalinteresting idea :p08:09
intelikeyand is self deception a good thing ?08:09
intelikey:)08:09
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AyabaraI have spent a lot of time convincing myself that self deception is a good thing ;-)08:10
intelikey:)08:10
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erinick #bandung08:11
intelikeywell as long as you are unanamus about it Ayabara   :)08:11
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intelikeyT3hWiz0rd anyway.  back to our "fight"  or saying that every linux os is a gentoo os because they are all built from the same source code.....    :)08:14
rredd4nomal  ty its under system notifications/events/KDE is starting up08:14
rredd4ty08:14
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intelikeyif it's GNU/Linux  it's good,  because it's linux.... the GNU part...meh i guess i'm not a rms fan.  but that don't mean i'm against him/it.08:18
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Healotmoo you08:19
intelikeyroot means square ?08:19
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ubuntuhello08:24
intelikeysay08:24
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Zaireanyone in here know css?08:26
HealotZaire: what seems to be the problem? IE rendering doesn't work?08:26
Zaireits not really that Im having trouble getting the stuff in my footer div to go to the far left rather then centered left plus while doing so keeping the css valid08:27
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intelikeyah ha !   there's the problem.    update-menus[10552] : Script /etc/menu-methods/twm returned error status 1.08:28
Healotzaire: your css declaration for that footer div?08:28
Zairehttp://pastebin.ca/20475208:29
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Healotok, since it is a relative positioning... what's the body width and height?08:31
Zaire1280x102408:31
Healothuge; ok, let's see if the CSS is valid08:32
Healotthe align-left property is not a valid prop08:33
intelikeyhah  the symlink in /usr/sbin/install-menu  was borked.     and duh  why is the script in /usr/bin and every thing that uses it is looking for it in /usr/sbin   that's wak08:33
Healotyou want the footer to be left-aligned?08:33
Zaireyeps I took that left:256px; out again and its valid but positioning is't the way I would like it08:34
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Healotalign-left:400px; << this is not a valid prop though08:34
Zaireyea I want it all the way on the left side08:34
Zairenot just slightly left lol08:35
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Healottry float: left08:35
Healotyou want the div to be left-aligned or the text-align to be left-aligned?08:36
Zairethe whole thing to tell the truth08:36
Zairefloat left didn't even touch its position08:37
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intelikeyWarning: the string include-menu-defs did not occur in template file /etc/X11/twm//system.twmrc-menu     still no menu08:42
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dudehello08:43
dudeis it safe to install xserver-xgl?08:43
krautmoin08:44
Zaireonly 3 things could result from xgl #1 in just may not work, #2 it may break linux, #3 it may also possibly work lol08:45
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dudezaire: so what is ur recoomendaton?08:46
dudezaire: so what is ur recomendaton?08:46
Zairedunno personally cause Ive never gotten it to work08:46
T3hWiz0rdZaire: it can also do all 3 at once...08:47
Zairecourse it just didn't work when I tried it08:47
Zairelol such is linux, always and adventure lol08:47
T3hWiz0rdlol... wooo my scripts still there08:47
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dudezaire: so may be i will not not install xgl then 4 the meantime08:48
T3hWiz0rdXGL gets boring fast08:48
T3hWiz0rdits like a blonde girlfriend...08:48
T3hWiz0rdfun until the miles rack up.08:48
dudehehehe08:49
Zairewell unless you can get someone who knows enough about it prob best not to lol08:49
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dudeT3hWizord: have you tried XGL?08:49
T3hWiz0rddude: yes, but i did it on its native suse platform08:49
T3hWiz0rdand even there its buggy and basically stupid.08:49
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dudeT3hWizord: it is inculded in suse platform right?08:50
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T3hWiz0rddude: not included, just installable08:50
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T3hWiz0rdand to think... im the one listening to robert palmer 0.o''08:51
dudeso what is the verdict?08:51
T3hWiz0rddude: i would avoid it its still CVS and thus buggy and you can blow your system out of the water like the republican agenda.08:51
dudeT3hWizord: ok...tnx, i'l just enjoy my existing 3ddesktop08:52
T3hWiz0rdwhat are you using now?08:52
BlackenOpen-source mathematica-ish programs...anyone have any recommendations?08:53
dude3ddesktop08:53
dudeadditional application08:53
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intelikeyhmmm   Warning: the string include-menu-defs did not occur in template file /etc/X11/twm//system.twmrc-menu      but it also doesn't appear in anything i can find.    and still no menu entries.08:54
intelikeyBlacken "mathematica-ish"   never heard of mathematica  what's it like ?08:54
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hastesaverBlacken, yes. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScientists , the mathematics section08:55
hastesaverBlacken, the problem is that there are lots ;-)08:55
intelikeyoh a scientific calc app08:55
intelikeyyeah lots08:55
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intelikeybc   :)08:56
hastesaverintelikey, no, no, more than bc :-) It can plot graphs, find roots of polynomials, do symbolic integration, ...08:57
intelikeyhastesaver bc was followed by     :)08:58
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intelikeybc is hardly a scientific calculator     it's more of a algabraic algarythm reader08:59
Blackenhastesaver: Any that you'd recommend?08:59
BlackenSearching synaptic brings up Axiom.09:00
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hastesaverBlacken, I haven't used any of them (yet). I've heard ohers use maxima and octave, though09:01
hastesaverBlacken, mathematica is also available for Linux, if you can buy it :)09:01
=== Blacken would kill for an example of C code that does out a function derivative and translates it to Human at the same time.
BlackenI'm helping teach a class in calculus...need something that will break 'em down step by step.09:02
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BlackenBanmeat is you. Die please.09:04
hastesaverBlacken, I'm trying out "mathomatic" now... looks usable (no GUI, though)09:05
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hastesaverBlacken, what exactly do you want, BTW? What do you mean by step by step?09:06
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Zairedamnit I still can't get total left alignment09:08
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Blackenhastesaver: I'm looking at mathomatic right now, too. Basically what I want it to do is go through a function/task as a human would and output the intermediate steps.09:09
BlackenLike--doing a derivative; do the chain rule, product rule, whatever.09:10
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Zairedamn this is driving me insane09:12
Blackenhastesaver: It's not exactly a common thing to look for, but it's gotta exist. :P09:12
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hastesaverBlacken, maybe. I'm not sure :-)09:12
Blackenhastesaver: There's a website that does it, and does it well--uses webMathematica as a backend.09:13
kumsy /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>09:13
Zaireis there a website that does css for you :S09:13
Blackenhastesaver: However, the website basically GIVES them the answer, so I don't want to give it out to them; I want to use it as an example.09:13
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BlackenZaire: You're looking for #css, I believe.09:13
hastesaverBlacken, I'm not sure if it exists; and I'm even less sure if it's possible to find it :-)09:14
Blackenhastesaver: Probably not. Which sucks. I *know* that it's out there...just maybe not OSS. :/09:14
hastesaverBlacken, but if differentiation is all you need, it should be simple to write one yourself... will probably take less time than trying to find it09:15
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Blackenhastesaver: To draw out the intermediate steps from any arbitrary function put in? My C-fu ain't that great.09:15
hastesaverBlacken, oh, I was thinking only of polynomials... you could also go to the mathomatic people and bug them to include this feature09:16
Zairewell submitted my question in there...been working on this page for 3 days now09:16
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Zairewell pages more or less09:16
Blackenhastesaver: True. Polynomials are pretty much everything, but the prof enjoys throwing weird crap at students.09:17
BlackenI mean--I wouldn't ever make a student do out (-9x^2+2)^8*(9x^2+6)^12 by hand. He would. *twitch*09:18
BlackenThe derivative of that, that is.09:18
Zaireno one seems to be doing anything in the css channel :S09:18
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BlackenZaire: Then wait for an answer, instead of going to unrelated channels?09:19
olofi downloaded a dvd-movie in .img format  (4,5gb),   but how do i play it normally as a dvd in kaffeine without burning it?09:19
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hastesaverolof, you can mount the file, and then for all purposes it's an actual dvd09:21
ZaireI just find help where ever I can09:21
Healot!bchunk09:21
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB09:21
olofyeah, i followed some guide to mount isos and stuff, but it didnt work09:21
Healotimg?09:21
Healothummwhichprogramcreatedit?09:21
hastesaverolof, is the .img same as an iso file?09:22
olofi think so yes09:22
olofits a dvd-movie09:22
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Blackenhastesaver: IMGs are a different kind of image file. I forget the exact details, but I don't believe they mount as iso9660.09:24
BlackenNot directly. But I may be wrong.09:24
BlackenAnyway, bed...09:24
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olofi mounted the img file, but and i could explore the files in konqerour, but nothing happened when i pressed play dvd in kaffeine09:25
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hastesaverolof, oh, Kaffeine is probably looking for the DVD in the wrong place09:26
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olofim new to linux and kubuntu if u havent noticed btw :)09:27
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hastesaverolof, and I haven't used kaffeine, so I don't know how to get it to work... keep asking ("I have mounted a DVD in <location>; how do I get kaffeine to play it?", etc); I'm sure someone will answer :)09:28
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dude_what is the best video player in kubuntu?09:30
Healotnone09:30
Healotthe best is hardware video player instead :)09:30
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olofdude_: i like kaffeine best09:31
dude_actually i can't play my videos09:31
adH ! I m editing grub  menu list : to specify a default i got to count ; should I count only entries with 'savedefaults' only ?09:31
addude_: try videolan09:32
addude_: vlc09:32
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olofdude_: missing codecs?09:37
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dude_olof: ya missing codec09:39
dude_olof: ya missing codecs09:39
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:39
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ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB09:39
Zairewhere are the ssh logs in kubuntu I kinda forgot lol09:39
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adI can not find where I can change my screen resolution ::09:42
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addude_: vlc doesn't need any codecs most time ! I got it on windows and it is very googd !09:43
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HealotVLC has built-in codecs :)09:44
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momalad: system settings> display09:45
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dude_k tnx09:45
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admomal: well i don't find this menu (french one :\) Is there a path ?09:47
momalad: dunknow... but usually system settings button is in your K menu. then should be an icon of a screen for the display.09:48
admomal: I think I find it but only 640 480 is in the select box :\09:49
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admomal: on install it was 1024 !09:49
momalad: Could be a driver issue.. try and download latest drivers for your card09:49
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:49
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momalad: that link will have info for both :)09:50
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dude_olof: vlc can't still play movies, just sound09:51
dude_ad: vlc can't still play movies, just sound09:52
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adk thanks :) more over since I update from breezy to dapper, my laptop keyboard works bad : letters forgotten, multiple samez letter ...09:52
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_alex!nvidia09:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:52
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Zairefinally took me long enough but fixed my css lol09:55
Zaireno help or nothin....I didn't put a paragraph tag in my xhtml an was missing 1 thing from my css09:56
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qichaohi, does anyone know how to use shortcut keys to switch between desktop in KDE??09:59
qichaoI am new to Linux, ha, anyone can help??09:59
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momalqichao: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/2289.html <-- go down to the For KDE10:01
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livingdaylightHAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!10:02
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qichaowow, thanks a lot10:02
livingdaylightHAPPY BIRTHDAY KDE10:02
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Zairehow do you tell what version of mysql-server your running10:02
livingdaylightHAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!10:03
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livingdaylightFOR HE IS A JOLLY GOOD FELLOW!10:03
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Zairegot a guy on the line in mysql help but need to know version of mysql-server10:03
momallolz... livingdaylight: super excited there? :p10:04
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momalZaire: mysql --version | will give what version is running10:05
livingdaylightHI momal!10:05
livingdaylightmomal: I didn't even know it was KDE's birthday! Didn't bring anything... :/10:06
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momallol!10:07
HealotKDE is so German :-10:07
livingdaylighthey... Zealot not Heathen, ok?10:08
livingdaylightNOT on KDE's Birthday please, ok Healot?10:08
livingdaylight:p10:08
Healotsch***10:08
momalrofl!10:09
momalGerme* ? :p10:09
livingdaylight*cough10:09
livingdaylightwhere are the developers of KDE from anyway?10:10
livingdaylightbesides everywhere10:10
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HealotGermany; obviously10:11
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livingdaylightHealot: how can you tell?10:11
Healoterr.10:11
livingdaylightis it the gears?10:11
livingdaylightze Mahschine look~?10:12
Healotthe site says so, the applications about box sayso10:12
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livingdaylightVorschprung durch Technik10:12
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livingdaylightI love KDE, but they have gone over the top with their K's10:13
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momalquote KDE about box: a non-profit organization legally founded in Tuebingen, Germany10:13
livingdaylightGnome has a human feel10:13
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Zairegnome blows10:14
momalgnome = macintosh :p10:14
livingdaylightlol, momal10:14
livingdaylightApple make good machines by the way...10:14
Zairemacintosh = blows :P10:14
livingdaylightZaire uses Fluxbox?10:15
Zairenope KDE or cli10:15
momalmeh my machine blows any mac out the window and into the garbage truck :D10:15
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livingdaylightoh, Zaire so you like the Windows-look? heehee10:16
ZaireAMD athlon64 X2 3800+ 1 GB ram 160GB HD 256 meg onboard video Gbit lan10:16
livingdaylightmomal: hey, thats a neat trick...straight into the garbage truck huh?!  :o10:16
momaltechincally its just as much windows as gnome is... gnome just moves its task bar10:16
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Zairehate winblows only use it for dreamweaver and BattleField 210:17
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livingdaylightZaire: OH, so you love it actually10:17
=== Zaire only paid 315 for his processor and main board lol
momalZaire: amd x2 4200 2gb ram 800gb total geforce 7800gt and gbit lan of course :p10:17
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momalpft sif ati10:19
momallol10:19
livingdaylightwhat does one do with 4gb or ram?10:19
Zairevmware10:19
momalone runs many virtual machines :p10:19
viviersfhave fun ?10:19
livingdaylightDoh...10:20
Zairemeg I like to test stuff with servers and Vm is the best for it plus could run multiples to beat hell lol10:20
momalI have winxp, kubuntu edgy, win98, dos+win3.11 running under vms :)10:20
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Zairelol10:20
Zairemy OS list is long lol10:20
momaldos+win3.11 doesn't really like 512mb ram lol!10:21
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Zaireto put it 1 way Im 11 discs short of a 40 cd wallet full10:21
momallol my os list is a folder of 45gb + lol!10:21
livingdaylight29disks then10:21
momalI have all iso's for them ^^10:21
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ZaireI burn them cause I format lots to mess with things10:22
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=== momal watching livingdaylight get blown out the window by all this power
ZaireI have windows NT4, 95, 98, 2000, XP pro, Vista RC2 and not gonna even list the linux distros plus I also have a copy of Solaris 1010:23
dudecan i connect kubuntu to the active directory of windows server 2003?10:23
livingdaylightrofl10:24
livingdaylight :)10:24
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momalvista is pretty crap lol... I went to a microsoft office about 3weeks back and I told them they should learn to make a better os like linux lol.. they gave me bunch free xboxgames, hats shirts vista rc2, office2007 lol?10:25
Zairevista does suck10:25
livingdaylightwhat, to shut you up?10:25
livingdaylightI heard vista looks nice10:25
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Zaireplus if you read digg there's an extreme restriction on the license10:26
livingdaylightat #ubuntuforums some guys were saying it is better than Ubuntu10:26
ZaireROFLMFAO10:26
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ZaireI install a daemon toold and it broke the install10:26
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AWOSDevMIDI problems continue to plague my computer.10:26
momallivingdaylight: take beryl downgrade it to 10% then downgrade it a further 90% then add lag thats vista lol?10:27
dudeAWOSDev: can i connect kubuntu to the active directory of windows server 2003?10:27
momalarr Zaire you a digg user :D10:27
AWOSDevdude: Which way?10:27
rysiek|plguys, where on earth can I get xmodmap mapping files (xmodmap.pl, xmodmap.us, etc)? they're not present on my system10:27
AWOSDevI tried the ALSA howto to no avail.  I have a hardware synth that works in Windows 95 and Red Hat Linux 9 (kernel 2.2).  It does not play with /dev/sequencer or /dev/snd/seq.10:27
momalyea that liscence stuff was bullcrap you can't run any vmware program on it unless you have the ulti edition :S?10:27
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Zairevista has a nice look in its own GUI wise but the interface has been overhauled and really sucks10:28
rysiek|plZaire: yeah. and have you read the licence?10:28
AWOSDevNO WAY!10:28
Zaireno just got the clip notes from digg.com10:28
AWOSDevYou can't run VMware unless you have the Ultimate edition?10:28
Zaireyeps10:29
dudeAWOSDev: kubuntu as workstation10:29
AWOSDevwhat a crap.10:29
AWOSDevdude: Should work.10:29
Zaireand you can only have 5 comps networked with home premium10:29
AWOSDevdude: never tried it, but I heard it would work10:29
AWOSDevZaire, I have 12 computers.10:29
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AWOSDevdude: do this on the Konsole       sudo apt-get install samba3-doc10:30
rysiek|plZaire: the only thing it lacks, IMHO, is the line: "and thou shall not install linux nor any free software on the same machine thou hath installed the Godly Vista"10:30
thoreauputicdiscussion of Vista should probably be in #kubuntu-offtopic :)10:30
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rysiek|plsry10:30
AWOSDevDon't give 'em any ideas!!!!!10:30
Zaireits been bad since the start...you also pretty much can't disable the windows antivirus and firewall stuff...well not completely anyway10:30
AWOSDevAhh!10:31
AWOSDevSpambots cussing Linux and telling everyone to use "Windows" in #ubuntu!10:31
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Zaireyea I thought SP2 was bad for XP lol vista was way worse lol10:31
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rysiek|plAWOSDev: ...aaand they're gone.10:32
momalhttp://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=36820 <-- the liscening stuff for vista to those who are wishing to see it10:32
livingdaylightmomal: what is the command to activate beryl again?10:32
AWOSDevAnd they're back!10:32
momalberyl-manager10:32
livingdaylightmomal: please?   :D10:32
rysiek|plguys, repeating my question, where on earth can I get xmodmap mapping files (xmodmap.pl, xmodmap.us, etc)? they're not present on my system10:33
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momalrysiek|pl: have you tried reinstalling xmodmap ?10:34
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rysiek|plmomal: darn, that would be too simple, now wouldn't it? :)10:34
rysiek|plon it10:34
Zairespammer in mysql channel to10:34
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rysiek|plmomal: it dodn't help. I even haven't got the /usr/share/xmodmap/ dir10:36
rysiek|pl*didn't10:36
livingdaylightmomal: :s ??10:36
momallivingdaylight: beryl-manager | lol you musta missed it above :p10:36
momalrysiek|pl: I don't have usr/share/xmodmap lol ?10:37
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livingdaylightmomal: sorry, bro...i did10:38
rysiek|plmomal: yeah, yeah, lough out loud :)10:38
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livingdaylightmomal: blind as a bat in hell10:38
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AWOSDevMidi?10:38
livingdaylightmomal: still not getting my cube though?10:38
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dudeAWOSDev: why is i can't play my videos?10:38
momalright click red gem> select window manager> beryl10:38
AWOSDevdude, do you have VLC?10:38
dudeAWOSDev: i installed lots of players10:39
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dudeAWOSDev: ya i have but, same problem, no video10:39
dudejust sound10:39
franjesus_rysiek|pl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=xmodmap&arch=i386&version=edgy&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive10:39
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dudewmvdmod.dll issue10:40
livingdaylightmomal: thats the one10:40
franjesus_rysiek|pl: gnome-applets-data is what you're looking for10:40
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rysiek|plfranjesus_: yeah, the link told me, thanks10:41
dudeAWOSDev: you there?10:41
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AWOSDevdude yeah10:41
AWOSDevdude do you have the w32codecs?10:41
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dudeAWOSDev: i don't know, how do i check that?10:42
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AWOSDevdude if you don't know you don't have it :)10:43
axel!checkinstall10:43
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!10:43
AWOSDev!codecs10:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:43
AWOSDevGo to this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats10:43
AWOSDevand read about w32codecs.10:43
dudeok10:43
dudetnx10:43
AWOSDevnp10:43
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cpk2dude: apt-cache policy w32codecs will tell you if you have it installed10:43
dudecpk2: tnx10:44
dudeguys, have u tried xgl/compiz?10:44
Zaireanyone know any mods for the mysql channel cause theres a major spam prob some jerkazz has a bot in there10:45
dudeis it safe to install  xgl/compiz?10:45
AWOSDevI'll see what I can do10:45
momaldude: yes... use beryl #beryl instead of compiz :)10:45
momaldude: livingdaylight has it installed working as well :)... do you have ati or nvidia ?10:46
livingdaylightmomal: what about Aigl instead of XGL?10:46
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livingdaylightdude: what up?10:46
momallivingdaylight: unless you have ait card don't bother about that yet lol10:46
dudemomal: what wrong with compiz?10:46
livingdaylightdude: i got it working like a dream10:46
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dudemomal: whats wrong with compiz?10:46
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livingdaylightmomal: ait?10:47
momaldude: its evil 1 ... and the reps are broken for it lol.. and beryl is the *new* compiz..10:47
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momallivingdaylight: ati*10:47
livingdaylightdude: beryl is the one10:47
livingdaylightmomal: so Aigl is for ati cards?10:47
livingdaylightmomal: and XGL for nvidia?10:47
dudelivingdaylight: can you guide me?10:48
dudecpk2: w32codecs ae installed10:48
momaldude: http://beryl-project.org/ | livingdaylight: aixgl is basically for ati cards xgl however can work for ati as well10:49
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momaldude: you have nvidia card or ati ?10:49
cpk2dude: great, then windows media files should run fine10:49
livingdaylightdude: this is an excellent spoon-fed howto that momal gave me http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5063-howto-xgl-beryl-kubuntu-dapper-with-nvidia10:49
dudenvidia10:49
momaldude: yea use that howto livingdaylight just linked to ^_-10:49
dudecpk2: what is your video player?10:50
cpk2dude: i use kaffeine10:50
cpk2and sometimes mplayer10:50
dudeok, tnx10:51
momaldude: go into #beryl if you need more help on it bunch people in there :)10:51
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livingdaylightmomal: is there a draw back to using xgl/beryl/compiz in that you can'tuse any other 3-D applications?10:52
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momallivingdaylight: yes and no... some might have problems but generally hasn't been reported probs10:52
livingdaylightmomal: how about google-earth for example?10:53
momaltry it out and see :p... no reason to why it shoulnt' work10:53
cpk2dude: it really shouldnt matter what player you use10:53
livingdaylightmomal: but what if i try and my computer blows up!?10:53
dudecpk2: it is working now, tnx10:54
dudelivingdaylight: hehehe, it seems that im confused10:54
momallol then you sue google :)... umm nar it wont at most whats would happen is that X would crash and you just log back in :)10:54
momaldude: lol?... you need help setting up beryl/xgl ?10:54
dudemomal: yes pls10:54
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AWOSDevWell I'll be going to be now, g'night all10:56
AWOSDev4:55am EDT10:56
Ayabarathe system beep is driving me insane. I tried removing it with "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr", but it won't die.10:56
momalsleep tight :p10:56
AWOSDev:)10:57
AWOSDevbmo, did you get my email?10:57
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dudeunregistred nick?10:58
user_____non-ts10:58
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AWOSDevdude, me?  No I'm reged10:59
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AWOSDevwell g'night all10:59
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gzevsperoHi, I have an avermedia pci video capture card in my PC, how can I find out if it has been detected and installed correctly in ubuntu?11:00
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dudeNickServ- The nickname [dude]  is already registered11:00
momallol badluck...11:00
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cpk2gzevspero: first step would be to see if it shows up in lspci11:01
wilsonhehehe11:01
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momallol? just come talk in #beryl and will say it there :p11:02
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wilsonwhy is it i cant register11:03
wilsonhmmmm11:03
Ayabaraanyone? how can I get rid of the system beep?11:03
cpk2Ayabara: in konsole?11:04
Ayabaracpk2, everywhere11:04
cpk2well, you could just unplug the speaker11:04
Ayabaracpk2, hmm. it seemed to work the second time I did modprobe -r11:05
Ayabara:-)11:05
thoreauputicAyabara: in X,  xset b off , in tty setterm -blength 0  if I recall correctly11:05
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Ayabarathoreauputic, thanks, did that fix too :-)11:05
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cmvoHi! I'm looking for a utility that would spread files, that are too many/big for one cd, across directories so they could be burned on several cds.11:06
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kalbsfinally11:08
kalbshehehe11:08
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gzevsperocpk2: yes, it shows up as "Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder"11:08
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kalbscani run winxp on kubuntu?11:15
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RogueJediZerokalbs: Sorry. Only through VMware or Bochs11:17
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kalbswhich is better VMmare or Bochs?11:18
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_alexHi ! Is it possible to control windows XP pro from kubuntu via terminal server ?11:18
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RogueJediZerokalbs: I'd say VMware11:19
RogueJediZeroBut it isn't free11:20
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olofcan i run open gl apps  thru vmware/bochs?11:20
RogueJediZeroDon't think so, no11:20
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RogueJediZeroBoth give you just a basic SVGA driver11:20
RogueJediZeroAt least last time I tried them, they did.11:21
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ShoiabI have cable net behind windows isa server!!!! unable to connect under ubuntu!!! waht I do??11:39
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dudehow can i reset my adept manager11:42
dudedatabase locked11:42
dudeYou will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.11:43
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Shoiab I have cable net behind windows isa server!!!! unable to connect under ubuntu!!! waht I do??11:46
dudehow can i reset my adept manager11:46
cpk2dude: try killall adept11:47
cpk2and killall apt-get11:47
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dudeapt-get: no process killed11:48
bmono cpk, he's got a lockfile for apt somewhere...I am looking where it might be11:49
bmoer...11:49
bmoI know, why don't I use google...derrrr...11:49
Jucatosudo dpkg --configure -a11:49
dudeactually, im downloading VMware11:50
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dudemomal11:50
momaljust sec my box is screwing its self over at the moment11:51
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momalkopete just doesn't work anymore... like wtf thats twice now11:51
Jucatodude, "sudo dpkg --configure -a"11:51
dudeok11:52
_alexI m looking for a good remote control client/server : I want to control windows XP from my kubuntu on my LAN. I tried Real VNC / Tight VNC but both are too slow :\11:52
dudejucato: nothing happend11:53
_alexI want something as fast as terminal server when controlling windows XP with another windows XP11:53
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bmodude, try this...11:54
bmorm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock11:54
bmohttp://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Apt-get11:55
Jucatodude, after trying the command, were you able to run Adept or apt-get again?11:55
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bmorm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock11:55
bmo  rm /var/lib/aptitude/lock11:55
bmo  rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock11:55
bmo  rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock11:55
dudejucato: tnx....11:55
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bmo If so, or as a last resort, try issuing this:11:57
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bmo  dpkg --configure -a11:57
bmoThis lets Debian's dpkg finish the configuration phase previously begun. You should be able to use aptitude as normal afterhand.11:57
kalbsmomal: bc11:58
kalbsmomal: are you busy?11:58
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kalbsmomal: are you busy?12:00
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Ayabarado you guys frown upon Automatix? I tried it once, and seem to recall that no one in the channel would help me until I uninstalled it :-)12:02
momalkalbs: yea just sec need to fix my box first I have work I have to get done and if my box isn't working im screwed12:02
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Ranma2264Hi to all I just wanna ask does anyone know if there is a way to edit desktop device icons?12:02
kalbsokl12:02
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Ranma2264I can only mount my devices via right click and they only point to mountpoint not to media:/ anyone with the same issue?12:04
kalbswhy is it my adept is malfunctioning12:05
kalbsim downloading vmware and it stops at 16%12:05
kalbswhay is that12:05
srednaHm, which package contains kcolorchooser?12:06
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zen2ok im back and im unhappy12:11
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zen2now i need to know12:11
zen2what was the xgl chan listed earlier12:11
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zen2!xgl12:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:11
franjesussredna: use the file search feature in ubuntu's web12:11
zen2noice12:11
srednafranjesus: Thank you, but I guessed right - it is in kcoloredit12:12
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Ayabaraanyone using beagle? I can't get the beagle daemon to start indexing12:12
carstenmoin12:12
kalbsmy adept manager is not working12:13
carstenI think that bug 63541 and bug 64570 are the same...12:13
carstenWhom do I report this ;-)12:13
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carstenRiddell: I even think they might be KDM bugs... but you are not subscribed to these two bugs12:14
_alexI m trying RDP for remote access to winXP. I can see the log window of XP but my keyboard does not work :\ Can any one help please ?12:14
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kalbsmy adept manager is not working12:16
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kalbscan i kill the process?12:16
kalbs.killall command is noe woring12:17
kalbs.killall command is noe working12:17
kalbs.killall command is not working12:17
kasim_alex: do u use rdesktop programm?12:17
kalbshelp pls12:18
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bmokalbs are you using the pid or are you using the name of the program in your "killall"?12:18
Jucatokalbs, what do you mean by "not working"?12:18
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bmokillall - use name  kill - use pid12:19
kalbsbmo: killall12:19
kasim_alex: try to use prog 'rdesktop' from CLI. That gives you options for your keyboard as parametes12:19
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kalbsjucato: it does nothing, it doesn't open12:19
bmolike so: killall foo  kill 345212:19
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bmokillall -r foo*   will get everything starting with foo12:20
bmo-r = regexp12:20
Jucatokalbs, try running it from Konsole to see if you get error messages when it doesn't open: "kdesu adept"12:20
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_alexkasim: yes I use this prog ; i ve just installed it12:20
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bmothere are signals you can pass12:20
bmokill -9 is "kill kill"12:20
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kalbsno process killed12:20
bmokill -9 pid12:21
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kasim_alex: did you see all the options. type 'rdesktop' only12:21
_alexkasim: I have those options on GUI12:21
Jucatokalbs, it means that adept probably isn't running12:21
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txwhat package do i need to install to have stdio.h ?12:21
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kalbsjucato: ya...it seems that way12:22
txi have installed gcc but there ain't nothing in /usr/include/12:22
tx'bout gcc12:22
kalbs:(12:22
bmowhat are you trying to kill, kalbs?12:22
kalbswhat seems to be the problem?>12:22
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kalbsadept manager is not working12:23
kasim_alex: always easier to start with CLI, and if working use GUI12:23
_alexkasim: uhm ... I m using french win XP and there is a option : "disable encryption (french TS)" . Could this be that ?12:23
kalbsit won't start12:23
bmowhy? what is the error?12:23
kasimahh12:23
Jucatokalbs, have you tried running Adept from the command line, like what I asked?12:23
kalbsjucato: yes12:23
bmowhat does it say when you run adept from the command line12:24
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Jucatokalbs, what error message (near the end) do you get, then?12:24
kalbswhere should i paste it?12:24
bmohere if it's not too long12:24
jaro hello there. A very unpleasant thing happened to me - my disk collapsed and rendered data partition based on reiserfs unusable. reiserfsck is of no use as there are bad blocks which hit the "system area" of the filesystem. I'd like to ask whether there are any chances of getting the data back in such a case?12:25
Jucato!pastebin12:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:25
kalbshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26987/12:25
kalbshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2698712:25
txwhat packege do i need to install to have the includes that gcc needs , like stdio.h ? gcc is installed but there are no includes in /usr/include12:25
_alexkasim: I think there is a little bug ... randomly I take away fullscreen mode and I was able to type in ! It works ...12:25
Jucatokalbs, that's all that you get?12:26
kalbsyes jucato and asking for password12:26
Jucatokalbs, and when you enter the password?12:26
_alexkasim: I used rdesktop -e in a CLI. Then I used the GUI from the KDE menu. Is the "-e" option take effects ? Or does it only open a new instance of the prog ?12:27
kalbsjucato: nothing, it won't open12:27
kasim_alex: pls give me the compleate cli line12:27
_alexkasim: my question is a generic question finally .12:27
Jucatodo you get additional error messages after you give the password?12:27
_alexkasim: it is complete !12:27
kasimyou must have host at least12:28
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_alexkasim: CLI line was only "rdesktop -e"12:28
Jucatokalbs, hm.. strange indeed. have you tried restarting KDE (not rebooting)12:28
kasimrdesktop -e xphost12:28
_alexkasim: yes of course but ... I told you I then use the GUI from the K-Menu12:28
kalbsyes i did12:29
kalbssame12:29
Jucatook that is indeed very strange then...12:29
kasimyes and i told you its per to have written line to debate than some GUI description12:29
_alexkasim: that is why I wonder if CLI gives a instance and GUI launch another or it is the same so the option '-e' is kept ?12:30
kalbsi'll try to re start KDE12:30
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kasimi am not sure what "-e" in detail. Sure you can contoll more and precise with CLI. Maybe the "-e" is not passed. Can you look at 'ps aux | grep rdesktop'12:31
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dudejucato: ok12:31
kasimi mean afte you run the GUI stuff12:31
gemidjywhere do I change OO.org splash screen? In edgy it is the old oo.org default one (it is ugly)12:31
dudejucato: re started12:31
livingdaylightanyone here use Opera?12:32
dudeme12:32
_alexkasim: well full screen bug :\12:32
dudejucato: what should i do?12:32
livingdaylightdude: you use the mail client? Its so sluggish here12:32
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dudeit's ok12:32
Jucatodude, huh? are you kalbs?12:33
livingdaylightdude: composed my first email and its really stalling12:33
dudeyes12:33
dudesorry12:33
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livingdaylightdude: you got xgl/beryl setup yet?12:33
livingdaylightkalbs: ?12:33
kalbslivingdaylight: not yet12:33
kasim_alex: lets start over, i dont allways understand you. 1. Is 'rdesktop -e xphost' working to your needs?12:33
kalbslivingdaylight: im afraid12:33
kalbslivingdaylight: :)12:33
livingdaylightkalbs: let me know if Opera works fine in XGL/beryl12:33
kalbsok12:33
livingdaylightkalbs: oh, i was too :)12:34
Jucatokalbs, tried running Adept again? if it still won't start, try rebooting... :(12:34
kalbsok12:34
kalbssame12:34
livingdaylighti've got this Adept notifier on my taskbar that wont go away!12:34
kalbslivingdaylight: can u guide me12:34
livingdaylighton?12:35
kalbsinstalling beryl12:35
Jucatolivingdaylight, it won't go away unless you have updated (or turn of the -updates repository)12:35
livingdaylightkalbs: i believe momal offered to guide you already12:35
kalbslivingdaylight: ya, but i think he is busy12:35
livingdaylightJucato: i have done sudo apt-get updates, and there is nothing to either update or upgrade, so why wont it go away? Didn't used to be an issue12:35
kalbsjucato: can i re install adept?12:36
livingdaylightJucato: i think its just a frozen window is what it looks like12:36
livingdaylightkalbs: have you installed nvidia and enabled 3d?12:36
kalbsyes12:36
Jucatolivingdaylight, "sudo apt-get update" only fetches updates. have you done "sudo apt-get upgrade" too?12:36
livingdaylightkalbs: dude, you've done the hard work, you are nearly home now12:36
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Jucatokalbs, yeah I think so. you can reinstall it. just forgot the apt-get command for it. I know the aptitude command, though: sudo aptitude reinstall adept12:37
livingdaylightJucato: yes, that is what i said12:37
livingdaylightkalbs: i gave you the beryl howto, just follow that, its so easy12:37
bbtis there a beta nvidia driver .deb package for dapper out there ?12:37
livingdaylightkalbs: there is #beryl where you can get help12:37
Jucatohm... have  you tried checking Adept Notifier/Updater to see what packages it thinks it still needs to update12:37
psb154!nvidia12:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:38
kalbslivingdaylight: ok, tnx, i have 2 reboot12:38
gemidjywhere do I change OO.org splash screen? In edgy it is the old oo.org default one (it is ugly)12:39
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szmolihi all12:41
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szmolii`ve just installed kububtu, i need some help12:42
szmolihow to install firefox?12:42
dudejucato: what is the command to re start adept?12:42
Jucatodude, um... what is it saying? that the database is locked?12:42
dudejucato: yes12:43
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Jucatodude, "sudo dpkg --configure -a"12:43
_alexkasim: no it does not work :\ I use GUI to launch but Keyboard is not active when XP log window appears. To solve it I must take out "fullscreenmode" and then it works12:43
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livingdaylightanyone know how to make Adept Notifier go away?12:43
_alexkasim: that s why I think it is a bug12:44
szmoliwhich program i have to use to find softwares?12:44
livingdaylightHave i got a virus or a bug?12:44
dudejucato: ok12:44
dudeits done12:44
livingdaylightIs Adept Notifier spyware?12:44
dudetns12:44
dudetnx12:44
Jucatolivingdaylight, have you tried checking what packages it's saying that needs updating?12:44
livingdaylightJucato: it said no updates available12:45
_alexkasim: anyway when I reclick "FullScreenMode" it works ...12:45
dudejucato: i need to install VMware, but i dont weant to use adept12:45
livingdaylightJucato: then it freezes. I hit 'close' and nothing happens12:45
Jucatohm... strange indeed12:45
dudejucato: i need to install VMware, but i dont want to use adept12:45
Jucatodude, vmware player?12:45
livingdaylightdude: sudo apt-get install Synaptic12:45
Jucatolivingdaylight, try this command in Konsole "sudo dpkg --configure -a"12:45
Jucatoactually that "sudo apt-get install synaptic" (case sensitive)12:46
dudejucato: yes12:46
Jucatobut you can install VMWare player using apt-get too, "sudo apt-get install vmware-player"12:46
livingdaylightJucato: ok, and now?12:46
livingdaylightdude: sudo apt-get install synaptic :)12:46
dudeok, tnx12:47
Jucatolivingdaylight, try Adept Notifier again?12:47
livingdaylightJucato: i hit anything on that window, whether 'close' or 'advanced' and dialog comes up saying no updates available and then freezes there12:48
Jucatolivingdaylight, but if you really *really* want Adept Notifier not to start at all, just remove it from /usr/share/autostart (I'd recommend not deleting, but just moving or hiding)12:48
livingdaylightJucato: not the dialog, but the adept notifier12:48
Jucatolivingdaylight, I'm presuming you're on Dapper right?12:48
livingdaylightJucato: sure12:49
dudejucato: im getting errors while installing vmware player12:49
Jucatodude, what errors?12:49
livingdaylightJucato: I'll completely remove it if i have to. I just would like it to work properly12:49
_alexkasim: another big problem : in real full screen mode I am stuck in wondows :\12:49
_alexI can not go back to Linux :\12:49
dudehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2698812:49
Jucatolivingdaylight, I'm not sure. it might (or might not) be a bug.12:49
livingdaylightJucato: is it Linux Spyware?12:50
Jucatoof course not12:50
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livingdaylight^^12:50
livingdaylightwell, its really bugging me12:50
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dudejucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2698812:50
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Jucatodude, I've seen it. unfortunately, I'm not familiar with network stuff12:51
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dudeso it is about my connection?12:51
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ben_hey guys I'm having trouble getting codecs from automatix, i have installed it but upon opening it says a "key" is missing12:52
Jucatoprobably. I'm not sure really12:52
_alexdude: is your network connexion work ?12:52
dudealex: what do min?12:52
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_alexdude: What is your prob ? Internet connection ?12:53
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dudealex: no problem with my connection12:53
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_alexdude: well jucato talked about network stuff ... That s why I thought it was a network prob ...12:54
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ben_automatix could not retrieve keys, can someone explain what a key is?12:56
gnomefreakJucato: is there a such thing as a mailing list reader?12:56
dudealex: actually, im downloading vmware, but there are errors12:56
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gnomefreakben_: i gpg key  can you give the full error please if more than a line or 2 please use pastebin12:56
Ayabarais wireshark in the kubuntu dapper repos?12:57
Jucatognomefreak, mailing list? I'm not sure if Akregator handles that. or maybe KNode. but I'm sure as hell KMail can read mailing lists :P12:57
gnomefreakJucato: trying to get them out of my inbox lol12:57
Reikmoin ich habe heute kubuntu installiert und mit synaptic einige tools nachinstalliert, leider werden die nciht im kmenu angezeigt, wie z.b. firefox . Wie bekomme ich das kmenu daszu das diese angezeigt werden oder was tu ich damit dies automatisch geschiet? Also wie automatisiere ich das das wenn ich ein tool installiere das dann automatisch auch im kmenu angezeigt wird?12:57
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Jucato!de12:57
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:57
gnomefreakReik: /join #ubuntu-de12:57
Reikdanke12:57
gnomefreakor kubuntu-de oops :(12:57
gnomefreakyw12:57
JucatoAyabara, I don't think so12:58
Reikthx gnomefreak12:58
gnomefreakyw Reik :)12:58
Jucatognomefreak, out of your webmail inbox?12:58
gnomefreakJucato: yes :(12:58
ben_gnomefreak: all i got was an error alert box, what can i type into Konsole to get the full error?12:58
gnomefreakJucato: i get over 300 emails a day12:58
gnomefreakben_: you would have to ask in #automatix12:58
gnomefreakben_: its not supported by ubuntu12:58
ben_gnomefreak: thanks12:59
gnomefreakyw12:59
Jucatognomefreak, ah but you'd still receive those in your e-mail, with or without a mailing list reader12:59
gnomefreakdamn12:59
Jucatothe reader would just get them from your inbox12:59
gnomefreakhmmmmmmm12:59
Jucatognomefreak, probably time to unsubscribe from those that you don't really need :)01:00
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gnomefreakif i wasnt admin or monterater of half of them i would01:00
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Jucatohow much space do you have in your e-mail account anyway?01:00
gnomefreakmoterater01:00
kasim_alex: i cant say much to the GUI stuff. Is it a frontend to rdesktop? Most likely? I would use the 'rdesktop' CLI first, with some more than just '-e'. With '-g ..' you can have a Window to your linking01:00
gnomefreakJucato: oh alot01:00
gnomefreakJucato: its gmail01:00
Jucatoperfect! :)01:01
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gnomefreakJucato: i have 6 or so gmail boxes lol01:01
Jucatolol01:01
Jucatonow that's so much space :P01:01
gnomefreakyes and i have over 6000 emails i have to go through in one of my gmail boxes01:01
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Jucatoinformation overload :P01:02
Jucatognomefreak, time to delegate some of the workload/admin/moderating duties then? :P01:02
gnomefreakJucato: its a good idea that way you can use it for LP and people know who they are emailing01:02
gnomefreakJucato: thought about hat too01:02
gnomefreakthat01:02
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Jucatognomefreak, unless you want to set aside 1-hour blocks of time each day just to spend reading/browsing them01:03
gnomefreaki do that now but i dont read every bug digest :(01:03
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MHazem!flash01:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:05
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Jucatognomefreak, btw, do you think it's just ok if I forward e-mails from my current Gmail account to a new jucato@gmail.com account that I'll be making? that way, I won't have to bother my relatives who know my older account (which is based on my real name)?01:05
gnomefreakJucato: should be gmail i think has a setting for that in settings menu when you log into your box01:06
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gnomefreakalso has auto respond when on vacation :)01:06
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Jucatoyeah, it's the only free e-mail service that has POP3 and forwarding support. I just feel like I'm trying to cheat Google. lol01:06
gnomefreakJucato: they just spent over 1 billion dollars on youtube i would say cheat away :)01:07
Jucatolol01:07
Jucato(down with youtube!! long live Google Videos!!)01:07
gnomefreaklol01:08
Jucatohehehe01:08
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Jucatosorry, YouTube doesn't offer you the option to download the video. so that's a big plus for Google Videos. unless of course you're on Windows, then you'd be forced to download them in Google Video Player format :P01:09
gnomefreaki didnt know about google videos heading to google to find out :)01:11
JucatoJust for those who'd might be interested in some KDE-related news: Mark Shuttleworth Becomes the First "Patron of KDE" (that's an actual title, and, no, it has nothing to do with "patron saints") http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/01:11
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Jucatognomefreak, heh. it has fewer videos compared to YouTube and is obviously less popular. but I like it for the download option :)01:12
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cpk2erhm how do you open a .chm? file says MS Windows HtmlHelp Data01:13
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Jucatocpk2, install kchmviewer01:14
Jucato!kchmviewer01:14
ubotukchmviewer: CHM viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3a-1 (dapper), package size 171 kB, installed size 568 kB01:14
cpk2well thats simple =P01:14
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Jucato:)01:14
wildchildI can't compile gnash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26985/01:15
Jucato!gnash01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
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wildchild!xgl01:22
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:22
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dude_jucato: are you still there?01:24
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dbgltwhat version of kde does edgy beta use?01:28
abattoirdbglt: 3.5.501:28
dude_jucato: are you still there?01:28
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abattoirdude_: he doesn't seem to be here, you need help with something?01:30
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blind_where / how ca i get temperature and battery status ????01:32
dude_abattoir: yes, have you tried VMware?01:32
abattoirdbglt: mm sorry, didnt read your question properly, beta shipped w/ 3.5.4, edgy has 3.5.5 currently01:32
abattoirblind_: 'acpi' in the command line shows your batt status01:32
abattoirdude_: yes01:32
dude_abattoir: i downloaded the package01:32
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dude_abattoir: but i don't know how to use it?01:33
dude_abattoir: : )01:33
abattoirblind_: '/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' should show your temp01:33
abattoirblind_: make that 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' should show your temp01:33
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abattoirdude_: you got vmware player?01:33
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dbgltabattoir: thank you.01:34
dude_abattoir: yes01:34
mikkosorry for off-topic, but anyone know good channel for discussing creating intgelligent irc-bot + integrating it with search engine (our own)?01:34
abattoirdude_: you downloaded it from the vmware site, or from the repo?01:34
dude_abattoir: from the repo01:35
abattoirmikko: i think #suppybot , not very sure though01:35
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dbgltis a seperate kubuntu repository needed?01:35
mikkoabattoir: thanks!01:35
dbgltI'm just going to replace all instances of dapper with edgy in my sources/list01:35
dbglt(to update to edgy)01:35
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abattoirdude_: ok, when installing the package, you weren't prompted to set it up?01:36
abattoirdude_: or did you manually download it?01:36
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abattoir!upgrade01:36
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:36
abattoirdbglt: ^^^ follow the instructions for dapper->edgy01:36
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Tallia1Kubuntuhello? i have an acer TM803LCi with centrino 1.6GHz, i am experiencing with kubuntu last version + backports problems with klaptop, particularly the only cpu power management profile that is active is "userspace" and when i klaptop i select another one neither the cpu freq profile or the selection inside klaptop changes... could you help me?01:37
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dude_abattoir: actually, i don't know if it install01:38
abattoirdude_: what did you do exactly?01:38
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dude_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2698801:39
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dude_abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2698801:39
abattoirdude_: try 'sudo apt-get -f install' , see if the same error message comes again...01:40
debianmanKELLE01:41
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dude_abattoir: same error i guess http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2699101:43
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abattoirdude_: try 'sudo modprobe vmnet' and then 'sudo apt-get -f install' ...01:44
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abattoirdude_: just tell me if it says something like Module not found, no need to paste it01:45
dude_abattoir: FATAL: Module vmnet not found.01:45
dude_abattoir: maybe i should download the whole package in the site01:45
abattoirit fails when setting up networking01:45
dude_ok01:45
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dude_sorry01:45
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abattoirno, i dont think that's the issue..01:46
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dude_abattoir: so whats the issue?01:46
abattoirtry running 'sudo vmware-config.pl'01:47
bmoerror message of the day that's actually good, from the game trackballs (/usr/games/trackballs) Warning: too fast framerate01:47
abattoirthat would run the configuration process again, and hopefully setup your networking properly01:47
dude_command not found01:47
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dude_abattoir: i quit :)01:49
abattoirdude_: heh, so easily? :P01:50
dude_abattoir: i can;t get it working01:51
abattoirdude_: can you check if /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl exists?01:51
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dude_no such file01:51
abattoirvmware has always been a pain for me, so i always use qemu... :P01:51
abattoirdude_: did you apt-get the file? or are you using dpkg -i manually?01:52
dude_what is qemu?01:52
abattoir!qemu01:52
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo01:52
abattoirdude_: its like vmware, but slower(even w/ kqemu)...01:52
abattoirdude_: but i guess the perfomance depends on your setup too01:53
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dude_abattoir: you mean to say, vmware is faster ?01:53
jendecpk2: good day01:53
abattoirdude_: yes, relatively01:53
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cpk2jende: day? just finished my work, going to sleep =(01:54
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neojvmware is a lot faster for me01:54
akolythello01:54
neoj(even with kqemu)01:54
jendecpk2: yep day...it's almost 2pm here01:54
dude_abattoir: ok...can we install it step by step? i downloaded the whole package on the site01:54
abattoirdude_: vmware?01:55
dude_abattoir:yes01:55
abattoirdude_: you need to tell me exactly what you did01:55
abattoirdude_: from which site?01:55
abattoirdude_: what package? how are you installing it01:55
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dude_ok01:56
dude_wait01:56
jendezen2: Hi Buddy!How are ya?01:56
dude_the 36 MB package01:56
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_alexHi jende01:57
jende_alex: hi _alex01:57
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flopethedopehey can anybody help me out for a minute?01:58
dude_abattoir: extracted01:58
abattoirdude_: ok, so you you were using the tar version?01:59
dude_abattoir: extracted in temp directory01:59
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_alexIs there a tool to drive ventirad rpm like a windows tool called "CPU ...". I can t remeber the name :\01:59
flopethedopei've installed KDE on top of gnome but it doesn't let me choose KDE from my login options01:59
flopethedopeanybody?01:59
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abattoirdude_: run 'sudo vmware-install.pl' (or installer, don't remember that well) inside the dir.01:59
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jendeflopethedope: what do you mean? So you start the Box and when it comes to the login you can't choose?02:00
flopethedopeyeah02:00
dude_abattoir: A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.02:00
flopethedoperight now i'm using gnome and when i go to logoff user and then click options and then select session, KDE doesn't appear in the list02:01
abattoirdude_: Dude, tell me what you did exactly!!!02:01
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jendeflopethedope: which kubuntu version are you running?02:01
abattoirdude_: the first time, did you install the deb?02:01
dude_abattoir: yes, the one you said a while ago02:01
_alexWell the tool is called speedfan ... I need it to slow a ventirad.02:02
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_alexjende: Do you know such a tool ?02:02
flopethedopei'm not exactly sure? i did aptitude install kubuntu-desktop :/02:02
abattoirdude_: well, its partially installed, so you either need to complete the installation or remove it02:02
flopethedopei'm assuming that it downloaded the latest02:02
dude_abattoir: how02:02
dude_?02:02
jendeflopethedope: wrong answer02:02
flopethedope:P02:02
jendeflopethedope: are you on Dapper on etdgy on Breezy?02:02
flopethedopedapper02:02
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jendeflopethedope: hold on a sec have to grab that ut of my brain ;-)02:03
abattoirdude_: try 'sudo apt-get remove vmware-player'02:03
flopethedopesure thing02:03
jende_alex: yeah, there is something similar02:03
abattoirdude_: if it complains again, try 'sudo dpkg-configure -a'02:03
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abattoirdude_: if it still complains... ugh02:03
flopethedopejende: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde02:03
flopethedopethat's the guide i followed to install it02:03
flopethedopeif that helps any02:03
jende_alex: just wait as well I might have a link for ya02:04
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_alexjende: yeah ... thanks02:04
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akolytCan I upgrade kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake to 6.10 Edgy ?02:07
dude_abattoir: removed02:07
ebeesmsg nickserv set hide email on02:07
abattoirdude_: ok, now try running ./vmware-installer.pl02:07
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abattoirdude_: inside the dir. of course02:07
gemidjywith last dist-upgrade of edgy I get this: Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN2> line 4.02:07
abattoirakolyt: sure02:07
jende_alex: if I did get you right, you need a tool to manage the vent of the proc, am I right?02:07
abattoir!upgrade02:07
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:07
gemidjyanyone else does?02:07
abattoirakolyt: ^^^^follow the instructions there02:07
akolytthx02:07
vgehow mutch broken is edgy?02:08
jendeflopethedope: what happen when your on gnome and if you go onto a terminal start KDE from there?02:08
jendevge: I wouldn't say its broken at all02:08
flopethedopei don't know how to go about doing that02:08
ebeesHi all, are there any Ekiga users online at the moment?02:09
jendeflopethedope: open a terminal using ALT+F202:09
flopethedopei'm rather new to linux alltogether, trying to check out different environments, os', etc02:09
gemidjyhow can I use upstart in Edgy?02:09
jendeflopethedope: done that?02:10
flopethedopeaye02:10
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dude_wahhhhhhhhhh02:10
jendeflopethedope: now type: sudo kdm02:10
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|Mikael|is there any repo search engine online?02:10
|Mikael|like on gentoo (gentoo-packages.com)?02:10
jende|Mikael|: Hi Mikael02:11
flopethedopesays command not found02:11
abattoir|Mikael|: pakcages.ubuntu.com ?02:11
vgejende: soo, if ai update to it, i should not need to spend that meny days fixing? ;)02:11
|Mikael|nice! abattoir thx02:11
jendevge: nope02:11
vgek, ty02:11
|Mikael|jende: hi :)02:11
flopethedopei don't get it, i can use konqueror which installed with the package but this doesn't show up02:11
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jendeflopethedope: konqueror has got nothing to do with it02:12
flopethedopeokay02:12
dude_waaaahhhhhhh.................02:12
jende|Mikael|: how are ya02:12
|Mikael|jende: tired ;)02:12
Jucato|Mikael|, you can also try typing "apt:/" in Konqueror02:12
jende|Mikael|: come on... ;-)02:13
abattoirdude_: Jucato's back ;)02:13
|Mikael|Jucato: nice trick :>02:13
|Mikael|jende: how you're doin'?02:13
jendeflopethedope: I'll be back in a minute, will just check on a dapper machine how to set yu up for KDE02:13
flopethedopealright, thanks02:13
flopethedopei'll be here02:13
jende|Mikael|: quite alright02:13
jende|Mikael|: will be back in aminute02:14
|Mikael|jende: np02:14
dude_abattoir: A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.02:14
abattoirdude_: hmm, i thought you removed it....02:15
dude_abattoir: why is that02:15
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abattoirdude_: you got any error messages w/ that apt-get remove command?02:15
dude_abattoir: Package vmware-player is not installed, so not removed02:15
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abattoirdude_: try 'sudo apt-get install vmware-player' again02:16
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esascan i get some help???02:17
dude_abattoir: failed02:18
abattoirdude_: at the same step?02:18
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ebeesHi esas, what sort of help do you need?02:18
esaswhat do you need for an apache server?02:19
dude_abattoir: yes02:19
dude_abattoir: same error02:19
dude_abattoir: connection error02:19
dude_abattoir: i guess02:19
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ebeesoh, good question but unfortunately way past my level of knowledge...02:19
abattoirdude_: try not setting up vmnet at this time...02:19
esasi installed kubuntu and i need to start an apache server, i dont know how to do that...02:19
ebeesI can tell you that the packages are available on the repos02:19
abattoir!lamp02:19
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.02:19
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abattoiresas: ^^^^02:20
vgehmm, can i get the edgy from repos?02:20
ebeesand that if you are going to install on a machine that will be a server that you should install only the server edition02:20
esasthanks, but i have kubuntu,...02:20
esasis it the same???02:20
ebeesthen apt-get the info02:20
ebeesSorry, I'm not quite clear what you mean?02:20
abattoirvge: you want to upgrade to edgy?02:21
ebeesOh, hang on. do you mean that you have the Kubuntu disk02:21
ebees?02:21
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esasyes, i downloaded it and then installed it02:21
ebeesoh, okay. Are you wanting this machine to be both a workstation and a server?02:22
esasyes02:22
dude_abattoir: tnx, i quit.... : (02:22
abattoirdude_: :(02:22
abattoirdude_: could you pastebin that error message again?02:22
dude_abattoir: have you tried beryl?02:22
ebeesOkay, hang on a sec02:22
abattoirdude_: maybe Jucato has seen it before02:23
abattoirdude_: nope02:23
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Jucatowhat have I seen before? :P02:23
ebeescheck this out02:23
dude_abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2699202:23
ebeeshttp://ubuntuguide.org/index.php?title=Ubuntu_dapper&redirect=no02:23
abattoirJucato: ^^^^02:23
Jucatoah yes02:24
Jucatoand like I said before, I'm clueless02:24
ebeesIf you look further down the page (or, if using Firefox, hit ctrl+f and type server) you'll find the server options02:24
abattoirJucato: oh so he had this problem before?02:24
ebeesThis might help you to get an idea of what you need to do02:24
Jucatohe asked me about it earlier. (few hours ago)02:24
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flopethedopeany luck jende?02:25
dude_abattoir: so what seem to be the problem? is it my connection?02:25
abattoirdude_: during vmware-config, vmnet is not being loaded/setup properly, this caused dpkg to quit and hence leave the package 'half installed'02:26
ebeesHey esas, you still with us?02:26
esasyep, thanks02:26
dude_ok02:26
esassay, are you english or so???02:27
dude_abattoir: what causing the dpkg to quit?02:27
jendeflopethedope: yep02:27
abattoirdude_: vmware quitting02:27
ebeesI'm in Sydney, Australia02:27
esaso02:27
abattoirdude_: w/o finishing what it is supposed to finish02:27
jendeflopethedope: you should have the ability to change the session riht at the start02:27
ebeesThough I'm not Australian, they do speak a version of English here :)02:27
esaswell, i'm in Antwerp, Belgium02:27
jende...right at the...02:27
ebeesWell, your English is better than my Flemish OR French :))02:28
jendeebees: have a VB for me02:28
ebeesJende :)02:28
_alexjende: I need a tool to manage all the vent.02:28
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dude_abattoir: i use adept a while ago and it didn't finish the installation, it stucks at 45%02:28
flopethedopeyeah i should but it isn't showing up, which is what i don't understand02:28
esasflemish02:28
flopethedopei didn't have any errors or anything during the install so i'm dumbfounded02:28
ebeesAhhhh, well, there you go... I know NO Flemish at all.02:29
ebees :)02:29
jendeflopethedope: go onto the console with ALT+F202:29
abattoirdude_: adept does not handle interactivity in a terminal, so for packages which need user input(like flash, java, vmware etc.) during installation, please DO NOT use adept, use the command line instead02:29
esas:)02:29
ebeesIf you read through that info and then have a bit of a browse on the Ubuntu forum you're sure to find a lot of info02:29
jendeflopethedope: then type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:29
jendeflopethedope: then type sudo apt-get install kde*02:30
ebeesI'd suggest having a read and then getting back on IRC and see if anyone has any particular experience02:30
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flopethedopeshould i just do kde rather than kubuntu-desktop?02:30
ebeesIs there a LUG in Belgium?02:30
dude_abattoir: oh ok...my mistake, so what should i do02:30
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esasLUG?????02:30
jendeflopethedope: nope you shoould do both!!!02:30
ebeesLinux User Group02:31
flopethedopeahh02:31
abattoirdude_: generally, quitting adept, and running 'sudo apt-get -f install' in a terminal fixes it02:31
ebeesMy local is SLUG :) Sydney Linux User Group02:31
ebeesSupposedly (in)famous :)02:31
|Mikael|what is sudo for kde?02:31
|Mikael|kdesuo?02:31
|Mikael|i don't find the right spelling02:31
flopethedopehrm02:31
dude_abattoir: can we start all over again?02:31
abattoir|Mikael|: kdesu02:31
flopethedopejende: it says package not available02:31
|Mikael|abattoir: thx02:31
abattoirdude_: lol02:31
esaslike in #kubuntu-nl ??????02:32
ebeesThat's an IRC channel I'd say.02:32
abattoirdude_: sure ;)02:32
flopethedopei'm assuming that means my sources.list sucks? :P02:32
jendeflopethedope: which package is not available?02:32
flopethedopekde02:32
jendeflopethedope: hold on02:33
ebeesmmmmmmm... a LUG is a user group that has a mailing list (usually) and they meet face to face, usually, though not always, at least once a month02:33
flopethedopei already installed the kubuntu-desktop and it went smooth as can be02:33
dude_abattoir: tnx02:33
flopethedopebut i used aptitude rather than apt-get, if that matters any02:33
esas???02:33
ebeesAh ha... here you go02:33
ebeeshttp://www.belgian-lugs.be/02:33
dude_abattoir: ok02:33
ebeesa list of Belgian Linux User Groups!02:34
dude_abattoir: first command02:34
jendeflopethedope: type sudo apt-cache policy kde02:34
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abattoirdude_: sudo apt-get --purge remove vmware-player02:34
jendeflopethedope: just do it the way I'm telling ya, would be nice02:34
flopethedopesure thing02:34
flopethedopekde:02:34
flopethedope  Installed: (none)02:34
flopethedope  Candidate: (none)02:34
flopethedope  Version table:02:34
Jucato!pastebin02:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:35
jendeflopethedope: then type sudo apt-get install kde02:35
ebeesThere are two in the Antwerp area02:35
ebees1. http://www.nokelu.be/02:35
esasi see02:35
esasthx02:35
ebees2. http://www.l4l.be/02:35
flopethedopestill says not available02:35
dude_abattoir: why is it that i still have vmware player in my ultilities and it is running02:35
jendeflopethedope: type whoami02:35
jendeflopethedope: what is the output02:35
ebeesNo probs. If you join one, there should be people who can provide assistance with what you need.02:36
flopethedopejust says my username02:36
abattoirdude_: how do you know 'its running' ?02:36
ebeesYou can join any LUG usually02:36
jendehave you always typed sudo02:36
ebeesAre you new to Linux?02:36
jendeflopethedope: andd then the command?02:36
dude_abattoir: i checked, i click the the application and it runs02:36
Jucatoflopethedope, make sure that "universe" is enabled in your sources.list02:36
Jucato!info kde02:36
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB02:36
dude_abattoir: ok02:37
ebeesEsas, you still reading?02:37
ebees:)02:37
esasyep and yep, but i was busy02:37
esas:)02:37
jendeflopethedope: do you know how to modify a file on linux using the editor vi?02:37
abattoirdude_: ok, run 'sudo vmware-uninstall.pl'02:37
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flopethedopei prefer pico, but yes02:38
abattoirdude_: and *close* all instances of vmware already running02:38
jendeflopethedope: so you know also the # and its meaning?02:38
ebeesNo probs02:38
dude_abattoir: ok done02:38
flopethedopesorta02:38
esasidd02:38
abattoirdude_: did it say something like uninstalled successfully?02:39
ebeesidd???02:39
jendeflopethedope: if so, type on the console sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list02:39
ebeeswhat is that02:39
ebees?02:39
Jucato!repositories02:39
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:39
livingdaylightdude_:  are you dude? or kalbs?02:39
Jucatoflopethedope, read up on that ^^^^02:39
dude_living: both02:39
dude_:)02:39
dude_1 person02:39
livingdaylightdude_: wow, the holy trinity02:39
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flopethedopei went to http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic last night to update my sources.list02:40
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livingdaylightdude_: have you mustered sufficient courage and setup XGL/Beryl?02:40
esaso, sorry,     in dutch it would be like indeed02:40
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jendeflopethedope: that doesn't help02:41
jendeflopethedope: would you mind starting the vi the way I just told you?02:41
dude_living: not yet...still afraid hehehe02:41
flopethedopeyeah it's already open02:41
jendeflopethedope: thats god, though02:41
jendeflopethedope: there are a few lines with a # as the first character and only those lines in which it says universe muktiverse need to be modified. To modify you have to press the INSERT key02:42
ebeesHey esas, as you're new :) if you wish to you can email me directly. I'm happy to help out02:42
flopethedopeyep i see them02:43
jendeebees: can you mail me a schooner?02:43
dude_abattoir: ok...02:43
dude_ur command master02:43
ebeesone handed at the moment - baby duty02:43
dude_:)02:43
ebees:)02:43
abattoirdude_: what happened?02:43
abattoirdude_: got it installed?02:43
jendeflopethedope: delete the hashes02:43
abattoir(please say yes :( )02:43
abattoir:P02:43
ebeesdcc me and i'll give you my email add02:44
dude_abattoir: not yet, still waiting 4 your command02:44
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DjDarkmanhy ,how can I add something to the sudoers list?02:44
_Shade_does anyone know how can i play my rmvb movies using kaffeine?02:45
flopethedopejende: what hashes?02:45
abattoirdude_: what was the last command i issued? ;)02:45
esasdcc??? what is that???02:45
Jucatolol02:45
jendeflopethedope: I will post mine to pastebin, so that might help you02:45
dude_abattoir: not yet, uninstall02:45
Jucato_Shade_, if you have libxine-extracodecs installed, that would cover rmvb, afaik02:45
dude_abattoir:  uninstall02:45
Jucato_Shade_, if not, you might also need the w32codecs02:45
abattoirdude_: you ran uninstall?02:45
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abattoirdude_: or was that file not present?02:45
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flopethedopealright, because there's a bunch of hashes in mine :P02:46
dude_abattoir:  removed02:46
dude_abattoir:  :)02:46
dude_abattoir:  all clear02:46
ebees:) direct contact chat02:46
_Shade_Jucato: it doesn't on dapper, but now I am on edgy. Let me see02:46
abattoirdude_: ok, go into the folder, and run vmware-installer, prefix sudo ofcourse02:46
livingdaylightdude_: do not ignore me02:46
letaliswhere is the repository list kept for adept and dpkg in general, i wanted to migrate it to a chroot02:46
dude_living: not yet...still afraid hehehe02:46
Jucato_Shade_, it does on Dapper. I was speaking from experience. (or from memory)02:46
livingdaylightdude_: i will come down with a vengeance, Bwuahahaha02:47
Jucatoletalis, /etc/apt/sources.list ?02:47
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letaliscool thanks Jucato02:47
dude_abattoir:  so you mean to  say to extract the file again02:47
dude_?02:47
dude_ok02:47
_Shade_Jucato: what about video CDs?02:48
abattoirdude_: yup, extract it, go into the dir. and then run the installer script02:48
Jucato_Shade_: just the same, AFAIK02:49
JucatoI can play VCD's and Video DVD's with Kaffeine02:49
dude_ok02:49
dude_ok02:49
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_Shade_Jucato: YEAH! it works! really it doesn't in dapper :)02:50
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Jucato_Shade_: then I'm clueless as to why it worked for me on Dapper02:51
DjDarkman_hy ,how can I add something to the sudoers list?02:51
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ebeeshey esas, it's late here so I have to go.02:51
esasbye02:51
abattoirDjDarkman_: you want to give someone admin privileges?02:51
abattoirDjDarkman_: what do you exactly want to do?02:51
DjDarkman_abattoir: I want to make all users be able to run wondershaper02:51
ebeesMy best advice is to join one of the LUGs (or more). There is a great international one at WFTL-LUG02:52
esasok02:52
DjDarkman_because I don`t like typing passwords when I limit my connection02:52
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ebeeshttp://www.marcelgagne.com/wftl-lug.html02:52
abattoirDjDarkman_: ok, sudo visudo should let you edit that file, and add what you want to add, but be very very careful, doing something wrong there might make your system unusable02:52
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ebeesA French-Canadian called Marcel Gagne, who's written a couple of books and has a column in Linux Format (I think) and appears on television and radio in Canada and the USA.02:53
DjDarkman_yes but how do I add a program to it abattoir ,I forgot the syntax?02:53
ebeesI'm a member there. It's a great group.02:53
ebeesI hope I've been of some help.02:54
abattoirDjDarkman_: not sure of it either, try man sudoers02:54
ebeesHave a good day over there02:54
ebeesbye02:54
_Shade_Jucato: there's another issue anyways: when I start the movie, it asks whether I'd like to watch it or scene selection... I do not know however how do i control the menu?02:54
dude_abattoir:  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected. <---- again ???02:54
jende!pastebin02:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:54
abattoirdude_: omg...02:54
abattoirdude_: i quit :P02:54
Jucato_Shade_: with the mouse, afaik02:54
abattoirdude_: ok, try restarting02:54
dude_ok02:54
_Shade_Jucato: so it doesn't work for me02:55
abattoirdude_: probably a few modules have been loaded(and hope they aren't reloaded when you restart :P )02:55
Jucatohm...02:55
jendeflopethedope: are you there02:55
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flopethedopesure am02:55
jendeflopethedope: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26995/ thats my file;02:55
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jendeflopethedope: sorry it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26996/02:56
jendeflopethedope: from line 39 til the end is the instruction from me to you how to go ahead02:57
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_alexjende: did ou have a link for that tool that i can manage all vent ?02:57
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flopethedopeit's already like that02:57
esasomg02:58
flopethedopethe only difference in our universe lines are mine says us.archive.ubuntu and yours is dk.archive.ubuntu02:58
jendehave you saved it properly?02:58
jendeflopethedope: taht doesn't bother02:58
flopethedopeand where yours says edgy mine says dapper02:58
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flopethedopewell i saved it with pico last night02:58
flopethedopei've used pico for quite some time now and it's always saved things fine, unless there's something i don't know about saving properly?02:58
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jendeflopethedope: make this: sudo apt-get clean02:59
flopethedopehmm, did that do anything?02:59
flopethedopeit asked for my pw then just went back to the cmdline03:00
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jendeflopethedope: and then sudo apt-get -f install to see if all packages are fine and all dependecies are met03:00
flopethedope0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 195 not upgraded.03:00
jendeafter that say sudo apt-get install kde03:00
flopethedopesame as before, package not available03:01
flopethedopeE: Package kde has no installation candidate03:01
emonkey-psudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:02
jendeemonkey-p: he did that, but he hasn't got kde03:02
emonkey-phmmm...03:02
jendeemonkey-p: wouldn't you say that a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist might solve it?03:03
jendeemonkey-p: wouldn't you say that a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade might solve it?03:03
emonkey-pdist-upgrade03:03
jendeemonkey-p: yep ;-)03:03
emonkey-pmaybe it does03:03
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jendeflopethedope: so do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get sidt-upgrade03:04
jendeflopethedope: so do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:04
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flopethedopelol so when i do apt-get update, at the end of it it tells me that i should run apt-get update to correct something03:05
flopethedopesorta seems redundant03:05
flopethedopeW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508803:05
jende!GPG03:06
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto03:06
flopethedopeshould i go ahead and dist-upgrade now?03:06
flopethedopeor should that be resolved first03:06
jendeflopethedope: resolve that first03:06
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jendeflopethedope: see the link to the gpg howto?03:07
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flopethedopeyeah i'm looking at it, was about to apt-get install gpa03:07
Jucatoflopethedope: actually you just need to add Riddell's GPG key, which source-o-matic does not do automatically03:08
jendeflopethedope: follow the instructions precisely03:08
flopethedopealright03:08
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Jucatojende: actually there's no need for him to do that03:08
mooHey :)03:08
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jendeJucato: arrrrgh...you're right, but doesn't do anything bad to him03:09
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Jucatoflopethedope: follow the first two commands in this page: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php03:09
flopethedopealriht03:10
mooive mounted an NTFS hdd... when i'd open it, i get "Can't open /mnt"03:10
Jucatoflopethedope: the "wget" command and the "apt-key" command03:10
moosomeone knows why?03:10
flopethedopegpg: no ultimately trusted keys found03:10
flopethedopethat happens after the apt-get03:11
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Jucatoflopethedope: you downloaded the .gpg key before you used apt-key?03:13
flopethedopeyep03:13
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flopethedopedoes it matter where i downloaded it to, because i'm in my home folder03:14
Jucatoflopethedope: well, you should do the apt-key command in the folder where you downloaded it to03:14
flopethedopeyeah i did03:14
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Jucatook then. you're good to go :)03:15
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flopethedopehmm i just tried it again and it said OK this time instead of no trusted keys found03:16
flopethedopeprogress!03:16
flopethedopenow should i do another sudo apt-get install kde?03:16
flopethedopeerr, i mean upgrade and then dist-upgrade?03:17
flopethedope*update and dist-upgrade03:17
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flopethedopedunno but it's downloading an assload of things03:19
flopethedope:P03:19
Jucatooh...03:19
flopethedopei had like 195 things to update03:19
Jucatodunno + downloading an assload of things = not a good combo :)03:20
flopethedopehaha03:20
thompahey, do i need "user or users in fstab for permissions?03:20
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thompai have to mount my 2nd hard drive with sudo at reboot03:21
jendeflopethedope: thats normal03:22
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jendeflopethedope: now type sudo apt-cache policy kde03:23
flopethedopeokay well it's still doing its thing03:24
jendeflopethedope: cool ;-)03:24
flopethedopeFetched 244MB in 5m14s (775kB/s) :D03:24
jendeflopethedope: I'll grab me a coffe03:24
flopethedopei had a lot to download03:24
flopethedopeyeah i'm gonna go smoke a cig right quick03:24
flopethedopebrb03:24
jendeflopethedope: yep03:24
esas#kubuntu-nl03:24
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impatxhi03:28
impatxi'm trying to install kubuntu 6.0603:28
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jendeimpatx: and whats the prob?03:29
impatxon a p3 450 MHz computer03:29
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esaswhat's then problem03:29
esas*the03:29
impatxis working already for about 3 hour and03:29
thompawhy does fstab have "user" for cdrom permission, when i am part of "users"?03:29
esasand...03:29
jendeimpatx: and???03:29
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stanleydsjust how in the world to you find out how much free space you have left on your hd?03:30
impatxi don't know isf is still installing or  is blcked03:30
jendestanleyds: df is your fried03:30
thompastanleyds: disk usage analyzer03:30
Tallia1Kubuntu[OT] : guys, do you know any website where i can see the user rated movies that came out this september?03:30
impatxis not responding03:30
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esaslosers03:30
impatxmouse and keyboard03:31
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stanleydsa full blown program just to find out how much space is used up?03:31
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visik7kubuntu edgy beta 1 crash on install03:31
Jucatostanleyds: df and dh for the command line, Filelight for GUI03:31
visik7on my asus V6J03:31
jendestanleyds: use df on a console03:31
stanleydsahhh.03:31
stanleydscool03:31
stanleydsthank you03:31
pedroHey! Good afternoon03:31
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pedroI am trying to solve a problem03:31
pedrobut I need some help because I am a little newbie03:32
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jendestanleyds: you're welcome03:32
pedroI am using ntfs-3g to mount a ntfs partition03:32
Hawkwindpedro: What's the problem ?03:32
jendeHawkwind: heydo ;-)03:32
pedrothe point is that the line that I use (I founded it on the net) mount with utf803:32
pedroand my code is iso8859-103:33
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HawkwindHey there jende03:33
pedroso I cannot see accents and other lettlers03:33
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JucatoHawkwind!! :)03:33
Hawkwindpedro: Ah, I can't help ya there.  I haven't touched Windows in 5 years and I plan on keeping it that way :)03:33
HawkwindJucato !! :P03:33
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pedrothe options that I have in fstab are...03:33
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pedrosilent,umask=0,no_def_opts,allow_other,locale=es_ES.utf803:34
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pedrowhat do I have to change in order to get iso8859-103:34
pedro?03:34
JucatoHawkwind: no stumbling out of bed today?03:34
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ibughi all03:35
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jendeflopethedope: are you back?03:35
HawkwindJucato: Hah nope not today.  We're getting floods here unfortunately03:35
Jucatooh that's bad...03:35
Linux_Galore_hmm W, Wi Windows, I think I remember that OS, for some reason my brain suppresses the time I used it, but be bad memories03:35
Tallia1Kubuntu!offtopic03:36
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:36
ibugCan i use "Alt+Shift" for changing group key on kde ?03:36
jendeHawkwind: doesn't sound like lots of fun though03:36
Linux_Galore_s/but/must/03:36
flopethedopejende: okay i'm back but it's still doing it's thing03:36
HawkwindNope.  We got some very severe storms last night.  Liz barely made it to work this morning03:36
jendeflopethedope: that sounds brill03:36
jendeHawkwind: where about's are ya03:37
jende=?03:37
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Hawkwindjende: Houston, Texas03:37
esaso, somebody wants to help me???03:37
Hawkwindesas: With ?03:38
jendeesas: doing what?03:38
esasif i want to enter my password for, let's say, adept, then it says03:38
esasconversation with su failed03:38
Hawkwindesas: Dapper or Edgy ?03:39
esaskubuntu03:39
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jendeesas: lol03:39
Hawkwindesas: Right, but Dapper or Edgy ?03:39
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esasdapper drake???03:39
Hawkwindesas: How did you open adept ?03:39
Linux_Galore_esas: Kubuntu has different names for the releases03:39
esasstart: system: adept(package manager)03:40
Hawkwindesas: From a terminal try either: sudo adept or try: kdesu adept.  Preferably the first one03:40
Linux_Galore_esas: 6.06 = Dapper  6.10 = Edgy03:40
Jucatowe have a "Start" button? *gasps*03:40
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esasomfg03:40
jendeJucato: seems to be so, at least esas says so03:41
esasfirst a gigantic list, but bthen it starts03:41
Linux_Galore_esas: list means nothing03:41
Jucatoheh :)03:41
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esasthx03:41
Hawkwindesas: So all good now ?03:42
esasyep, thx very much03:42
Linux_Galore_I found the same sometimes adept wont start via Menu->system03:42
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HawkwindYou're very welcome :)03:42
JucatoLinux_Galore_: same here. at least in Dapper03:42
Linux_Galore_in Dapper03:42
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Linux_Galore_seems to be a bug with kdesu login03:43
Jucatoor just with kdesu in general03:44
HawkwindIt's a known issue with kdesu actually and adept03:44
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Jucato"known issue" isn't really comforting :)03:45
JucatoI'd prefer to hear/see "resolved" instead :P03:45
jendeflopethedope: brb03:45
HawkwindJucato: Big thread on the ML's here lately about it03:45
JucatoHawkwind: which ML? kubuntu-devel?03:45
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Linux_Galore_it really needs fixing because you shouldn't have it on a enterprise release03:46
flopethedopewoohoo it finally finished03:46
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HawkwindJucato: I think, might have been the -users but probably the -devel03:46
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Linux_Galore_reminds me I have to fill my mp3 player for work tomorrow03:47
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dudeabattoir: im back :)03:52
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dudeabattoir: same error "A previous installation of VMware software has been detected." i quit03:53
DjDarkman_why can`t I install libfam?03:56
DjDarkman_I mean libfam-dev03:57
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Homeris that kmenu bug fixed in edgy?04:01
JucatoHomer: which kmenu bug?04:02
Homerwell for me at least04:02
Homerprograms will not add menu options until you reload KDE04:02
DjDarkman_why can`t I install libfam??04:03
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dudejucato: have you tried vmware?04:03
Homerso if you installing a program you gotta run it from console or reload KDE04:03
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JucatoHomer: well, afaik it works properly in Edgy.04:03
Homerok04:03
JucatoHomer: btw, you don't need to restart/reload KDE to do that. just type "kbuildsycoca --incremental"04:03
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Homeryeah well it should do that automagically :P04:04
dude!beryl04:04
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.04:04
Jucatodude: yes, but I didn't use vmware-player04:04
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flopethedopejende: are you back?04:05
MHazemHomer: kbuildsycoca04:05
dudejucato: why?04:05
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Jucatodude: I installed VMWare Server04:05
dudejucato: whats the differnce?04:06
jendeflopethedope: yep, just now04:06
Jucatodude: vmware player is just a player. it only runs raeady made VMWare images. VMWare server allows you to create those images04:06
flopethedopealright04:07
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flopethedopeit's finished and i did apt-cache like you said04:07
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fadriquehi04:08
dudejucato: can windows xp run on vmware?04:08
dudeserver04:09
jendeflopethedope: and what was the output?04:09
Jucatodude: of course. anything that runs on vmware player runs in any vmware product04:09
flopethedopepwin04:09
flopethedopeaww04:09
flopethedopeblocked lol04:09
flopethedopesec04:09
dudejucato: can you help me setup vmware?04:10
jendeflopethedope: you really did sudo apt-cache policy kde04:10
Jucato!pastebin04:10
flopethedopehttp://bccpsibeta.com/stuff/blahblah.txt04:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:10
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Jucatodude: this might be of more help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=vmware+server04:11
realinhi can anyone help me to download drivers for intel D101Gcc mobo04:11
jendeflopethedope: it hasnt said something like Versions...blabla04:11
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flopethedopenope04:11
flopethedopein that txt is all that it said04:11
jendeflopethedope: what tells you then a sudo apt-cache policy kdesktop ?04:12
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flopethedopehttp://bccpsibeta.com/stuff/whee.txt04:13
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jendeflopethedope: thats good04:13
realinATI* Radeon* Xpress 200 Chipset  can anyone help me install these drivers on KUBUNTU04:13
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jendeflopethedope: now do a sudo apt-get install kde04:14
jende!Radeon04:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:14
jende!ATI04:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:14
flopethedopeokay it's going04:15
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jendeflopethedope: cool04:15
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jenderealin: have alook at04:15
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jende!ATI04:15
marsswellbom dia04:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:15
realintjanks mate04:15
realinthanks a lot04:15
realini will try and come b ack04:15
jenderealin: you're welcome04:15
flopethedopei like these fast dl speeds :D 829 kB/s04:16
jendeflopethedope: its kinda cool, ha04:16
flopethedopewell coming from the days of the 2400 baud, this is absolutely beautiful :)04:16
jendeflopethedope: if everything works fine and if all depencies are met, you should be able to change the session with the next reboot04:17
flopethedopeawesome04:17
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flopethedopeoh, perhaps you could answer one other thing that's got me pretty confused04:17
flopethedopei'm trying to change the gnome foot in the applications menu04:17
flopethedopebut everytime i change the image it just doesn't do anything04:17
jendeflopethedope: if not we ave abit of more work to do, but I guess that's been it04:18
DjDarkman_why does libfam0 conflict with all packagees?04:18
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jendeDjDarkman_: cause its buggy04:18
flopethedopei managed to make the ubuntu image change to the foot somehow but can't get the foot outta here04:18
DjDarkman_ok and what can I do about it?04:18
jendeflopethedope: I'm not familiar with gnomw, really04:18
flopethedopethat's alright04:18
jendeDjDarkman_: what do you need it for?04:18
flopethedopeit's no biggie, i'll figure it out eventually04:18
DjDarkman_jende: I want to compile konversation04:19
realinwhat is the best player to play mp3 files, cause it plays linux sounds, but amrok doesnt play my mp3 sounds :(04:19
jendeDjDarkman_: why is that?Just get the package and it'll be there04:19
jenderealin:look04:19
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jende!mp304:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:19
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realinthanks again jende04:19
DjDarkman_jende: I like to use the svn konversation ,because of it`s new features04:20
realinthat means i cant play mp3 in linux04:20
jendeDjDarkman_: are you on dapper?04:20
Jucatorealin: you just need to install some codecs04:20
DjDarkman_jende: yes 64 bit dapper to be more precise04:20
CVirusjende: of course you can .. read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats04:20
jendeCVirus: did I say you can't?04:21
CVirushmm04:21
JucatoCVirus: I think you addressed the wrong person :)04:21
CVirusrealin:04:21
CVirus:-)04:21
CVirusjende: Jucato: Sorry about that04:21
jendeCVirus: no worries04:21
realinthanks guyss04:21
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DjDarkman_jende: is this a bug in the repositories?04:22
jendeDjDarkman_: as much as I know it is, yes04:22
DjDarkman_jende: this is a very old one then ,can I exept a fix?04:22
dudejucato: im getting errors04:23
jendeDjDarkman_: it's okay in the edgy04:23
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asmo674hurtyesterday i'we take HDD & insert in other PC and back. now i can't run any application wich need OpenGL, what I need to do???04:23
Jucatodude what errors?04:23
rittapgoodday erverybody !04:23
jendeDjDarkman_: you can either upgrade now or you'll wait til the final release04:23
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Jucatohm... Konversation 1.0 should have been available in dapper-backports days ago...04:24
dude!paste04:24
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DjDarkman_is this upgrade unsafe as the breeszy-to-dapper one?04:24
dudejucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2700004:24
jendeDjDarkman_: I hadn't had any dramas04:24
DjDarkman_me neighter when I inserted the install cd :)04:25
Jucatodude: I see that you're getting the same errors, whether you install vmware player or server.04:25
jendeDjDarkman_: want to know how I did it?04:25
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Jucatodude: unfortunately, I have no idea how to solve this at all... :(04:25
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DjDarkman_jende: sure04:26
dudejucato: ok, how about beryl?04:26
Jucatodude: absolutely no experience with XGL/Compiz stuff04:27
realin!codec04:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
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Jucato!codecs04:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:28
Jucatorealin: ^^^^ the RestrictedFormats page04:28
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realini did it asked me download k3b04:28
realinso i m doing it04:28
realinbut was looking for avi format too04:28
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Jucatorealin: afaik, AVI is handled by the libxine-extracodecs package04:29
jendeDjDarkman_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27002/04:29
realinok thanks04:29
jende!AVI04:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:29
dude!beryl04:29
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.04:29
jendeDjDarkman_: you might get a warning while upgrading by adept-IGNORE IT!!!04:30
DjDarkman_I think I`ll won`t use adept to often ,cause it almost removed everything ,and didn`t give a vissible warning04:31
realinadept says libxine-extracodecs is installed04:31
jendeDjDarkman_: I removed adept, as I hate it04:31
flopethedopewell it finished, do i have to reboot or will a logout suffice?04:32
jendeDjDarkman_: I'd rather play with apt...I love it04:32
jendeflopethedope: do a reboot04:32
flopethedopeok04:32
flopethedopebrb04:32
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jendeflopethedope: cool04:32
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DjDarkman_jende: are there bigger problems with the current edgy beta?04:33
jendeDjDarkman_: honestly, I haven't figured out any as yet04:33
DjDarkman_ok I`ll try ,maybe I won`t kill xorg this time04:34
jendeDjDarkman_: xorg shouldn't be killed04:34
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oslohi04:35
oslohow could i tape what i see on my desktop to an video file ?04:35
jendeDjDarkman_: and if, yoou've got something to work on...hehe04:35
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josh_anyone in here know NFS?04:35
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Dr_willis!nfs04:36
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.04:36
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DjDarkman_jende: first errors :04:37
DjDarkman_Err http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages04:37
DjDarkman_  404 Not Found04:37
jendeDjDarkman_: yoou're kidding04:37
jendeDjDarkman_: you're kidding04:37
DjDarkman_nope I`m not04:38
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DjDarkman_wait I`ll show you my sources.list04:38
Jucato!pastebin04:38
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JucatoDjDarkman_: you could use that ^^^^^^^04:38
DjDarkman_I know04:39
jendeDjDarkman_: yep, show me yours BUT pastebin it04:39
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DjDarkman_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27004/04:39
DjDarkman_jende: I`m not a total newb :)04:39
jendeDjDarkman_: sorry04:39
Jucatoer...04:39
Jucatolots of errors there04:39
jendeDjDarkman_: I'll pastebin mine quickly04:39
jendeDjDarkman_: heaps of errs in yours04:40
jendeDjDarkman_: use mine instead04:40
DjDarkman_do I have too many repos?04:40
guptais there an altenative to ark? a bit more efficient/faster perhaps04:40
JucatoDjDarkman_: too many wrong repos04:40
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flopethedopeworked like a charm!04:40
DjDarkman_gupta: Archive Maneger04:40
dudeneed help to guide me install beryl04:41
DjDarkman_It`s a gnoem archive maneger04:41
DjDarkman_*gnome04:41
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guptaDjDarkman_: is it better(faster ) than ark?04:41
DjDarkman_yep04:41
guptaok thanks!04:41
jendeDjDarkman_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27005/04:41
guptawill try04:41
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jendeflopethedope: so, you're happy now04:41
flopethedopeaye04:41
DjDarkman_but tar and unrar are faster i think04:41
jendeflopethedope: solved it?04:42
DjDarkman_:)04:42
flopethedopeyessir04:42
jendeflopethedope: cool04:42
flopethedopenow to check out the ins and outs and to decide if i wanna keep kde or gnome04:42
DjDarkman_je04:42
flopethedopeanything else i should know?04:42
DjDarkman_jende: your amarok repo seems to bee old04:42
jendeDjDarkman_: cause I'm not really using it04:42
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DjDarkman_I have amarok 1.4.304:42
Jucatodoesn't Edgy come with Amarok 1.4.3 anyway?04:43
DjDarkman_don`t know04:43
gonzo_how do I setup a networked hard drive in kubuntu?04:43
jendeDjDarkman_: edgy comes with 1.4.304:43
Jucatojust checked. yes it does :)04:43
Jucatobtw, it's practically useless to have edgy-security and edgy-backports enabled for now04:43
Jucatoand edgy-updates as well04:44
gonzo_the hard drive is on a windows box04:44
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jendeJucato: Raphael Pinson said its not useless04:44
DjDarkman_ok04:44
Jucatooh ok. if he said so. who am I to argue with raphink :)04:45
jendeJucato: dunno04:45
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guptawhat is the exact name of that gnome arhchive manager, plz?04:45
guptaarchive04:46
letalisgonzo_: are you trying to do it via nfs?04:46
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letalisim not sure if thatll work on an ntfs partition or not04:46
DjDarkman_Ign http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages04:46
DjDarkman_Err http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages04:46
DjDarkman_  404 Not Found04:46
Jucatojende: the only reason I said it was practically useless to have it enabled right now is because I think/thought those sections are empty04:46
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jendeJucato: basically, I think, he meant probably that it doesn't hurt, as they come real soon04:46
Jucatoprobably. :)04:47
jendeJucato: ,-)04:47
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jendeDjDarkman_: that surprises me badly04:48
jendeJucato: have you got an idea why DjDarkman_ is getting a 40404:48
DjDarkman_I don`t think it would be safe to upgrade without that04:48
Jucatojende: is he using your sources.list now?04:49
jendeDjDarkman_: i think so04:49
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DjDarkman_yes i`m using it04:49
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JucatoDjDarkman_: why not remove the kubuntu.org amarok repository?04:49
v3ctorgupta: you could try xarchiver04:49
jendeJucato: I'm just upgrading another machine here with that sources.list and it works fine04:49
Jucatoand the sunsite repos as well?04:50
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jendeJucato: yeah the sunsite are useless for him, I guess. I forgot to tell04:50
DjDarkman_what is this? deb http://typo3.sunsite.dk/software/debian/ ./04:51
Jucatothe Amarok 1.4.1 repo as well, since the update will install 1.4.3 anyway04:51
jendeDjDarkman_: thats typo3 a cms04:51
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DjDarkman_ok removed typo04:51
DjDarkman_removed amarok04:51
DjDarkman_repository04:51
jendeDjDarkman_: give it a new go04:51
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DjDarkman_ok04:52
jendeJucato: here in germany there no free hosts, that's why I just ordered me a root-server04:52
DjDarkman_it works04:52
JucatoDjDarkman_: I would also recommend changing the "de.archive.ubuntu.com" to your local/nearest mirror/server later on04:52
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DjDarkman_hmmm you`re right04:53
jendeJucato: I think DjDarkman_ will cange that anyway, as he is not a total newb04:54
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Jucatoyeah. just offering reminders/suggestions04:54
Jucatosometimes the simplest things are the ones that escapes us the most (speaking from experience)04:54
DjDarkman_yeah I don`t have a fast internet connection to ignore this detail :)04:54
jendeJucato: fair enough, I should have told him indefinitely that he should kick out at least the repos for typo3 and maybe amarok as well04:55
jendemy fault04:55
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jvdv_Is there somebody how is willing to help me a bit with my Interenet connection. I just Installed Kubuntu (Dutch version) on my other machine but I lack the knowledge to get it going. I am behind a router andmy machine works with a fix IP address04:55
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Nukemlol the chan rocks04:56
jendejvdv_: why not dhcp?04:56
Nukemheya i need help too04:56
letalisjvdv_: what kind of connection are you using to get to the internet, standard ethernet?04:56
Nukemkubi partition manager just crashed04:56
Nukem:/04:56
jvdv_Standard Ethernet Yes04:56
vgehttp://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9130/esim4eu5.jpg <-- somebody can explain me how to proceed? im upgrading to edgy and this comes when all paggages have been downloaded and it's trying to install the paggages04:56
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Nukemi can't install it04:57
Nukem:D04:57
letalisdoes linux recognize your ethernet nic?04:57
jendejvdv_: get onto a console and tell us the output of sudo route, if your card got recognized04:57
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jvdv_wait04:57
salestodo555what i need to do if i have read this: " OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' "??? 2 days ago it goes perfectly!04:58
OODyou need graphics drivers04:58
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jende!opengl04:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:58
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Jucato:)04:58
jende!GLX04:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about GLX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
OOD!nvidia04:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:59
OOD;)04:59
Nukemhmm how the fuck should i install kubi if the partition manager sux04:59
jendeOOD: *g*04:59
Nukem?04:59
jendejvdv_: are you still with us?04:59
echo1I need some help.  I can't do any apt type updating because the database is locked by something.  I've checked ps aux for thigns like aux, adept but no luck...04:59
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jendeecho1: sudo apt04:59
jvdv_Yes, I had to re-start my other system. Nearly there05:00
jendejvdv_: okay05:00
echo1no such command jende05:00
jvdv_I go to System Setting - Network settings The Interface = ethh005:01
jendeecho1: you're on a console? and if you type sudo apt-get -f install, for instance, it tells you no such comman?05:01
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Nukemecho can u help me ?05:01
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jendejvdv_: go on a console ALT+F2 and type sudo route05:01
jvdv_wait05:02
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jendejvdv_: sure will05:02
echo1i works but the issue is i cnt do anythign.  Something has locked the database and i cant figure out what05:02
jendeecho1: okay have you tried to modify your sources.list?05:02
echo1yes, when kde 3.5.5 came out, i did my update and allw as good05:03
jendeecho1: is it an error msg like dpkg blabla?05:03
jvdv_Nothing seem to happen. I did ALT + F2 en type sudo route in the window05:03
echo1adept says: Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.05:04
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jendejvdv_: nothing happens? you've been asked for your password05:04
Nukemaye05:05
jendeecho1: I didn't asked for the adept output, type sudo apt-get clean05:05
OODecho1: try using apt-get in terminal, it might tell you what to do05:05
jvdv_OK, got it, what are you looking for?05:05
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echo1yep: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.05:05
jendejvdv_: pastebin the output05:05
OODdo that05:05
nicofr737hello guys05:05
jende!pastebin05:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:06
nicofr737which person can help me with an ubuntu booting problem please ?05:06
OODnicofr737: depends what the problem is ;)05:06
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jendejvdv_: and then paste the link in here05:06
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echo1jende: where do I run this 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.'05:07
jendeecho1: sudo dpkg --configure -a05:07
nicofr737after successfull installation with the CD, the boots but block with messsage Mouting root file system05:07
OODecho1. open up konsole05:07
jendeecho1: open a console05:07
jvdv_Kubuntu is on my other machine. I just noticed that the IP address under Destination is wrong. Where can I correct this?05:07
cox377I'm wondering if someone can give me some advice, i've got an iso that i wanna put on an USB stick to make it bootable05:07
echo1thats what i was doing, i just had a typ05:07
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cox377what would be the recommended software under kubuntu?05:08
Nukemsome iso unpacking stuff05:08
Nukem:p05:08
jendejvdv_: you may either use sudo ifconfig eth0 <IPAddress>05:08
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nicofr737so any idea ?05:08
cox377Nukem: when u put it on the usb stick do u have to make it bootable, i've never done it before05:09
jendejvdv_: or sudo route add default gw <IP of your router>05:09
Nukemthe usb is the same like hdd almost05:09
Nukemiso is a packed file like zip05:09
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Nukemburn it on your usb :p05:09
Nukemiso is used for cd's but no prob to put in on usb i think05:10
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cox377i mean can i just extract and copy?05:10
iarwain_ben-adarHi, anyone knows something about internet (and firefox) problems?05:10
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Nukemnah won't copy the boot part05:10
jendejvdv_: did that gave you a correct route?05:11
cox377ok, so??05:11
Nukembut iso is used for cd's05:11
Nukem:p05:11
cox377lol05:11
jendejvdv_: if so ping google, i.e.05:11
jvdv_I am working on it. I do appreciate your help but I am pretty new to Linux05:11
cox377well i dont have any blank cd'rs and i need a bootable object for a app thats about 10mb05:11
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Nukemtry to byte copy the file to the usb secter / sector05:12
Nukem:p05:12
jendejvdv_: keep going, mate, we should get you there05:12
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OODcox377: you could install the OS on the usb drive05:12
OODthen it should boot on any recent PC05:13
OODas long as you put the MBR on the usb drive05:13
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nicofr737so nothing to help me ...05:13
aetherhm05:14
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jendenicofr737: whats your prob?05:14
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nicofr737jende: system block at boot with message "Mouting root file system" thanks05:14
Nukemwell i can't even install it nico05:15
Nukemu are happy man05:15
nicofr737lol05:15
aetherwhy can't you install it?05:15
jendenicofr737: which version are you trying to install?Dapper?Edgy?05:15
Nukemcoz i have wintendo and i wanna install this kubi on some other partition05:15
Nukemand the partition manager just rocks to crash05:16
T3hWiz0rdWindtendoooo! pirate your own fun.05:16
Nukemwindows -.-05:16
nicofr737jende: I don't know exactly. i have taken it on ubunto web site. It's Destop ubunto 6.0605:16
Nukemxp05:16
Nukem!05:16
aetheri used partmag, paritiond my hdd into 3 and fully installed kubby onto it05:16
Nukemwell it blows up like i said05:17
jendeNukem: you might do something wrong with partmag, I guess05:17
T3hWiz0rdlike use it05:17
T3hWiz0rdor any norton programs05:17
T3hWiz0rdthe piles of crap05:17
Nukemjende no way only linux i gotta install on my pc was suse05:17
OODgparted all the way :D05:17
Nukemcoz it got's xtream partition shit05:17
jendeOOD: my suggestion as well05:18
Nukemjende and i got 2 msg when i booted05:18
jendejvdv_: ???05:18
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Nukemsome I/O error on 2 blocks05:18
nicofr737jende: Can it be a problem with udev or something like this. May be during the setup, linux saw my disk but may be when tring to mount file system at boot, udev can't see my disk05:18
T3hWiz0rddon't any of you know how to manually partition a hard dirve? I can do it with the spoon i just ate my breakfast off of!05:18
jendeNukem: like what? don't speak in fragments05:18
Nukemwait a bit i gonna boot again and write it on paper05:19
Nukemwill get back soon05:19
Nukem:)05:19
jvdv_Sorry, I have to go (Have to get my kids from school) I'll be back later and pick up from where we left it. Thks.05:19
nicofr737by jvdv_05:20
jendenicofr737: sounds like that your partition couldn't get created or recognized at all05:20
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aetherdrive safe :)05:20
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jendejvdv_: take care and be safe05:20
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nicofr737jende: hum. and ? have any idea ? try another linux ? :)05:21
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aetherhuh?05:21
aetheri had to laugh earlier, i was having problems with some programs on kubuntu, then i finaly figured out the guy who sent me the cd sent me a older version05:22
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sfilleulhi05:23
jendenicofr737: nope, you don't to use another distri05:23
letalishi05:23
aetherhey05:23
darkohi aether05:23
aetherhows it goin'?05:23
jendenicofr737: what is your native language?05:23
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nicofr737jende: french but from switzerland ...05:24
jendenicofr737: so you would understand erman as well05:24
jendenicofr737: so you would understand german as well05:24
aethermy native language is english but understand a little of most05:24
nicofr737jende: no lol... i am in the french part of switzerland :)05:25
jendenicofr737: just wait a bit05:25
nicofr737and swiss french guys speak in english with swiss german guys LOL05:25
nicofr737jende : ok05:25
jendenicofr737: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html05:25
jendenicofr737: knoppix is a linux live - CD and comes with a Linux Partition Manager05:26
jendenicofr737: that shuld work and solve your dramas05:26
jendenicofr737: that should work and solve your dramas05:26
nicofr737jende ok thanks i will try it.05:27
jendenicofr737: the PM is either called gparted or qtparted05:27
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Nukemjade05:27
jende!qtparted05:27
aetherwb nuke05:27
ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB05:28
Nukemthx05:28
nicofr737jende: ok i know parted so i hope i can find a solution05:28
Nukemhere is the msg05:28
nicofr737jende: thanks a lot05:28
jendenicofr737: no dramas, you're welcome05:28
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nicofr737bye bye room05:28
Nukem[17179714.464000]  Buffer I/O error on device hdd, on logical block 35471005:28
jendenicofr737: bye and i hope you'll succeed05:29
aetherits a logical partition?05:29
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jendeNukem: get yourself this LiveCD which comes wirh a LinuxPartitionManager05:29
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jendenicofr737: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html05:29
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Nukemthis is live cd05:30
Nukemedgy05:30
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teflonhi05:30
jendeNukem: well, if you want to create a proper Linux Partition you may seriously want to use the Knoppix CD as I said05:31
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Nukemdamn05:32
Nukemi am doomed05:32
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wildchild!xgl05:32
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:32
jendeNukem: create with the tool *parted the partition and then install KUbuntu05:32
Nukemwill try05:32
Nukemthx for help05:32
jendeNukem: no worries, you're welcom05:33
jendefolks, I'm off for now see ya later05:33
teflonHey I think I may have found a problem with kubuntu dapper05:33
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jendeteflon: like what?05:34
teflonI was using adept a while ago and it kept hanging at the kdesu05:34
teflonit kept loading then just vanished05:34
jendeteflon: it's a known issue05:34
teflonso i typed killall kdesu into konsole as a user05:34
teflonand  I could then launch ANY app without being prompted fora password05:35
teflonI was never asked for any password when I done sudo05:35
jendeteflon: that's quite impossibel, I would say05:35
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teflonyes that swhat i thought05:35
teflonbut i kid you not05:36
jendeteflon: but I've got to go now anyway, hope someone else will help you05:36
tefloni thought maybe it had cached my priveleges from some other prog running from kdesu but nope05:36
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teflonits not really as problem jsut a vuln i think05:36
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aetherhm05:37
aethermy problem is how slow the transfer from windslut - nix is05:37
aether:P05:38
teflonwindslut?05:38
aetherwinslut* windows05:38
aethermy personal name for it05:38
teflonah k^^05:39
Dasnipa] [winblows is more common05:39
v3ctorsluts are cheap and easy..windows is not cheap05:39
Dasnipa] [at least it flows with the actual name05:39
teflonyou mean over a network? or reading from ntfs?05:39
aetherhaha05:39
aethersluts take take take windows does05:39
aetherover a network05:39
teflonyou got a 100mbps network then?05:40
vgesomebody can helmp me with thease errors when upgrading to edgy: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3015/esim5cm8.jpg and before that http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9130/esim4eu5.jpg ??05:40
v3ctorwhat are you using for transfer?05:40
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tefloni use filezilla here from a 2003 box to my kubuntu desktop and it runs fine05:40
aetherclick - move lmao i cant access the computer its on myself or i'd be puttin up a ftp05:40
teflonbut i have gigabit05:40
vgeanyone?05:41
teflonsorry im new to linux i still dont have a clue about half the stuff going on ^^05:42
ryanrhow do  I find my kde ver?05:42
teflonopen a kde prg05:43
Jucatoryanr: in any KDE app, Help menu > About KDE05:43
teflonand go to help about kde05:43
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v3ctorkicker --version05:44
ryanrThanks yall that was too easy05:44
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v3ctorin konsole05:44
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aetherhm05:46
aetherroomie must of left, no more music05:47
teflonaw have any of you noticed this really neat option in kmix05:47
teflonin input PCM05:47
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teflonif you turn that up it outputs eveything from your speakers through your mic05:47
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aethero005:49
aetherlol telfon05:49
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aethera mic that talks back?05:49
teflonyep05:49
teflonhoneslty I play music to my friend sthrough skype and teamspeak05:50
teflonim not joking it works great05:50
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teflontry it ou I have a creative audigy 405:51
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aetheri dont even know what i have but either it or my mic is facked05:53
aetherbecuase it just sounds like a hurricane05:53
teflonlol yeah you need to familiarise your self with the options there are so many05:53
aetherhm?05:54
teflonin kmix05:54
aethermy mics been messed for a while lol05:54
teflonlike just oget my mic working I had to fiddle for 5 mins05:54
aetherthink wires are loose05:55
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teflonah yeah that happened to my old one05:55
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aetherso ima see what i can do05:55
aetherthen put the left headphoen back together lol sat on it woops05:55
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teflonLOL05:56
aetherdidnt break it just teh cushion type thing came off05:56
teflonul05:56
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constantine-xviwould it be possible to set up a user-friendly DCOP system?05:56
teflonI once dropped my laptop on a cushioned seat and it bound on the PCMCIA wirelss card, it was in a bad way...05:57
aetherlol ouch05:57
wildchildhas anyone ANYONE here managed to install xgl on kubuntu 6.10 with amd64 and nvidia. If so, please post how to forum link..05:57
wildchildmy bad05:57
wildchild6.605:57
teflonyeah I was kinda not amused05:58
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teflonxgl?05:58
wildchildyes05:58
teflonwhat is that?05:58
aetherthinkt he worst set of headphones i had was actualy the right earphone totaly broke off and i had to tape it on or put it back together whilst wearin them05:58
aetherlol but they worked fine05:58
wildchildteflon: http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/xgl/05:58
teflonah sorry I don't have a clue05:59
teflonlol aether05:59
teflonhow do you do that red writing think? what comandi s it again?05:59
aetherasking me?05:59
aetheri not sure teflon06:00
visik7does anyone has a deb for kchm ? (not kchmviewer)06:00
teflonlol06:00
teflonthis is my first time using irc ever.06:00
aetherim like.. the oo in noob06:00
teflonyou just done it aether06:00
teflonlol06:00
aetherin that case it may be when you say someones name?06:01
aetherbecuase you've said my name twice both times in red06:01
teflonah06:01
teflonwell you leanr something every day06:01
aetheri've learned a lot in the last 24 hours :)06:01
teflonthis your first day too?06:01
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aethernot of irc, but linux06:02
teflonah im new to linux06:02
teflonbut had it for a few weeks now06:02
teflonI just formatted and all i have now is linux now windows06:03
teflon*no windows06:03
aetheryeah, i should of done dual boot at first06:03
aethersame here06:03
aetherfor a bit i was "what did i just do" lol06:03
teflonno i have to study this year and I figured I wasted too much time on games06:03
teflonlol yeah I had to format a few times06:04
Rocker3358I'm dual booted cause some programs and games I play I hadn't put on here yet06:04
teflonI tried gentoo first and forgot to install X11 lmao06:04
teflonyeah06:04
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aetherwell my kopete msn freezes up when i try to log in to it06:04
aetheraim works06:04
aetherlool06:04
aetherso im usin amsn =/06:04
teflonyeah kopete is a little flaky06:04
teflonkopete is the ownage though06:05
aetheras for this transfer rate its tempting me to take a trip and set up a ftp06:05
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teflonI love all the inof it gives you like whne someone close the windos06:05
aetherthe trip being down teh stairs but same difference06:05
aetheryou can get that by right clickin on there name and going who is06:05
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ShoiabI need some web links!!!! about winmoden in ubuntu????06:07
aetherhuh?06:07
mbvoi need telnet acces to this computer(kubuntu) from widows, what telnet server should i use? and how do i install?06:07
aetheri dno06:07
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teflonuse ssh06:07
aether:P06:07
aetherim so helpful06:07
fdovingmbvo: i recommend ssh, the package name for the server is 'openssh-server' google for 'putty download' to get a good windows client.06:08
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aetherbrb go set up filezilla on other pc06:08
teflonyeah ssh is the pwnage06:08
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teflonok06:08
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ShoiabAny one know???06:09
fdovingShoiab: hang on, i'll check.06:09
teflonwhat?06:09
teflonsorry06:09
aetherahh exactly wha ti thought06:09
teflonwinmoden?06:09
teflonwhat aether?06:09
aetherdon't it suck when parents think whatever you do to a pc your going to feck it up06:09
teflonyeah06:09
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guybonjour06:10
mbvohow do i get to the syaptics pakage manager in kubuntu? or is there one?06:10
teflonI know your pain06:10
fdovingShoiab: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto06:10
teflonbonjour06:10
aether"i'm going to set up a local ftp server" no your jnot blah blah blah06:10
aethernot your comptuer blah blah lol06:10
teflonmbvo it adept with me try that06:10
teflonLMAO06:10
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guyc'est mon premier essai06:10
teflonblah blah blah06:10
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aetherim like =/ omg06:10
fdovingmbvo: you can use 'kmenu -> system -> adept' - some people prefer synaptic over it though.06:10
teflonquoi? kubuntu?06:10
aethernot like im hackin the mod database06:10
fdoving!fr > guy06:10
teflonyeah06:10
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aetherwait till they find out im setting up a online ftp server lol06:11
teflonso the server is on your home network?06:11
aetherwas going to be06:11
teflonlol06:11
teflonI have one06:11
teflonwww.fukwit.com:21 hehe06:11
aetherwell i had my step dad forward some ports for "games"06:12
teflonbbut it aint public06:12
teflonlol06:12
fdovingteflon, aether, #kubuntu-offtopic for non-support stuff, thanks.06:12
teflonyeah 21 essential game port06:12
aethero thx06:12
teflonoh sorry06:12
aetherand sorry06:12
teflonill head over there now06:12
aetherright click it and join m8 :P06:13
fdoving:)06:13
Shoiabthanks06:14
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mbvowindows doesn't like my linux machines name,how do i get to the networ-admin(or somethig similar) on kubuntu?06:20
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dark0hello06:20
dark0how are u all doing06:20
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dark0how are u all doing06:20
teflonfine06:21
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mbvohow do i rename my kubuntu computer?06:22
mbvotelnet06:22
teflondon't know06:22
mbvooops06:22
teflonsorry06:22
mbvowrong kb06:22
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blurflembvo: hostname ?06:23
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mbvohow do i change my kubuntu computers name(to get rid of the dash)?06:23
mbvothanks06:23
blurflembvo: http://tuxmachines.org/node/966306:24
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joheyHow can I add support for real audio to Amarok?06:28
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e-d-d-i-ewitam06:37
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e-d-d-i-emam pytanie czy na procesorze 64 bitowym intel pentium D 2.8 uda mi sie zainstalowac zwykla wersje kubuntu 6.06?06:40
e-d-d-i-eczy potzreba nest jakas wersja przystosowana po te wlasnie porcesory?06:40
e-d-d-i-e*potrzebna jest06:40
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Hawkwinde-d-d-i-e: Try that in English for us if you would please :)06:40
wildchildIn KDE (Kubuntu), you can add a simple script to the "~/.kde/Autostart/" directory that activates those commands.06:41
wildchildand commands are:06:41
wildchildxmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us06:41
wildchildberyl-manager06:41
e-d-d-i-esry06:41
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wildchildcan someone help me how to make this script in Autostart work?06:41
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BonBonTheJonwildchild: put those commands in a file such as beryl.sh06:42
BonBonTheJonthen do chmod +x beryl.sh06:42
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wildchildBonBonTheJon can't find beryl.sh06:45
BonBonTheJonwildchild: at the command line do 'cd ~/.kde/Autostart/'06:46
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BonBonTheJonwildchild: then do 'kate betyl'06:46
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BonBonTheJonwildchild: then put your two commands in kate06:46
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BonBonTheJonwildchild: and save06:46
BonBonTheJonwildchild: tell me when you got that done06:46
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wildchild[18:46]  <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: then do 'kate betyl'  <-- "betyl" or "beryl"06:47
ashwin_any torrent users here?06:47
teflonyes06:47
Dr_willisdosent everyone use them>06:47
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BonBonTheJonwildchild: it doesnt matter, but you probably want beryl06:48
BonBonTheJonwildchild: and it should be beryl.sh06:48
BonBonTheJonsorry06:48
ashwin_teflon: my doenload is extremely slow when it come to download.....not sure3 y06:48
ashwin_any suggestions06:48
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ashwin_i mean no matter what client i use they are pathetically slow06:49
teflonhave yuou opened the ports on your router for bittorrent06:49
ashwin_but the normal browsing is pretty fast06:49
Dr_willisor it could be the # of peers that are just slow.06:49
Dr_willissome torrents are fast... some are slow fo rme.06:49
wildchildBonBonTheJon: done06:49
teflonyes it depends on the seeders06:49
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ashwin_router....let me check06:49
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BonBonTheJonwildchild: ok, in command line do 'sudo chmod +x beryl.sh' to make it executable06:50
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Kim^JWhat the hell have you all done to everything in 6.10?06:50
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Kim^JWhy doesn't anything work as it should?06:50
teflonyou need to forward the ports from your router to your pc06:50
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Kim^JMPD reads the got damn wrong file.06:50
blueyedWhat scripts does Kubuntu/KDE execute for the "Suspend" and "Hibernate" buttons in the "Log out..." dialog?06:50
Kim^JAmarok won't start even though it gave no errors.06:50
isabellehello06:50
Kim^JEverything is just so fucked up.06:50
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BonBonTheJon!language06:51
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:51
isabelley a t il une version francaise ????06:51
wildchildBonBonTheJon: I am going to restart x ...06:51
apokryphos!fr06:51
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:51
isabellesvp06:51
wildchildBonBonTheJon: tnx06:51
Kim^Jisabelle, /j #kubuntu-fr06:51
ashwin_oh ok have just one peer....slow its pretty slow06:51
otaku-sanOk, I installed Karbon14...but it's not in the kmenu.  I have to type karbon in konsole to start it...so how do I put it in the kmenu?06:51
BonBonTheJonwildchild: tell me if it works06:51
wildchildk06:51
ashwin_thanks guys06:51
teflonif ther is only one peer then it will be slow06:51
otaku-sanwith a icon with it06:51
teflonotaku restart06:51
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BonBonTheJonotaku-san: or you can right click on kmenu and edit it06:52
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otaku-santeflon: I have already....anyways restarting is for windoze users06:52
mbvohow do i set a static ip on kubuntu?06:52
Dr_willismbvo,  i just use the network config tools and set it. :P06:53
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Dr_willisof course last i did that was months ago.. where are they...06:53
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otaku-sanBonBonTheJon: let me try...I think I already did....it doesn't show up as a normal app...06:53
teflondon't know you will need to find the executalbe and add it to menu06:53
mbvowhat network tools?06:53
constantine-xvidoes anyone in here use basket 0.6 (the beta/RC)?06:53
Dr_willissystem->networking is where some are at.06:53
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Dr_willismbvo,  you havent even looked have ya? :P06:53
mbvoi have06:53
mbvoi even tried network-admin from the terminal06:54
ashwin_mbvo: go to system->adminitration-> networking06:54
Dr_willisi tend to install all the ubunti stuff as well.06:54
otaku-santeflon: I found the executable...but I think I need it as read write access to put into the menu06:54
mbvothere's no administration06:54
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B-Minusmbvo:06:54
ashwin_ok u must be in kde06:54
teflondont know06:54
B-Minusyou can do that with ipconfig eth0 ipadress06:54
blueyedWhat scripts or actions does Kubuntu/KDE execute for the "Suspend" and "Hibernate" buttons in the "Log out..." dialog?06:55
teflonI am not that knowledagble to be honest06:55
ashwin_try -> system-> networking06:55
ashwin_*system-> networking06:55
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mbvoit's telling me -bash: ipconfig: command not found06:55
joakim_hi06:55
ashwin_its "ifconfig"06:56
otaku-santeflon: heheheh me either!06:56
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ashwin_ipconfig is for windows06:56
Hawkwindmbvo: ipconfig is Windows, ifconfig is linux :)06:56
Dr_willisI dont have an ipconfig either. :) but i get no messages about it.. lol06:56
ashwin_thats strage :)06:56
joakim_i is no sound in my cedega when i play BF2 but i use KDE. inn Gnome is working. how can i fix this?06:57
teflonsorry otaku06:57
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joakim_ssombody can help me06:57
joakim_?06:57
ashwin_we'll try to06:57
joakim_what ?06:57
teflonask the guys at cedega ther teech sup[port is supposedly quite good joakim06:58
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joakim_i nobody ansver ther06:58
ashwin_i meant i'll try to help....not sure if gonna be succesfull in doingso:)06:58
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teflonhm...06:59
ashwin_oh sry missed ur earlier message06:59
Dr_williswhen playing games in cedega.. it may be worth wile to login to a VERY minimal window manager. :P06:59
Dr_willissounds like an alsa/esd issue to me.06:59
SkrotSound problems sounds like artsd though ;)07:00
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joakim_wath abot  artsd?07:00
Skrotjoakim_: artsd may be hijacking your sound device, so Cedega/BF42 don't get access to it07:01
Skrotjoakim_: Try killall -9 artsd and then start bf4207:01
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joakim_oki thx07:01
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vgekk, now how i get back to my KDE after upgrading to edgy?07:05
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joakimhi07:05
teflonhi07:05
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vgethere dont seem to be "startx" command anymore, and OS boots to console?07:05
joakimit works whit killall -9 artsd but when i paly the gam the sound got away . how i fix this :D07:06
Skrotvge: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:06
vgethats what i was looking for, ty07:06
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joakim?07:06
teflonlog in and 'startx' or 'gui'07:06
Skrotjoakim: You mean sound works for a little while then dissapears?07:06
joakimyes07:06
joakimit works when its begin than dissapears07:07
joakimiin the game07:07
SkrotI see. That's a little harder to debug07:07
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joakimoki how i fix thats07:08
vgeSkrot: it says that paggage has unmet debendencies, "hwdb-client-kde" to be exact?07:08
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teflonenable all repositories07:08
joakim?07:08
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Skrotjoakim: You can disable artsd in KDE Menu -> Run -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System07:08
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Skrotvge: I had the same problem. Though "apt-get install hwdb-client-kde" worked..07:09
vgeSkrot: ill try that07:09
Skrotvge: I just installed all the unmet dependencies by hand. If hwdb-client-kde depends on some other package, you try to install that one manually07:09
joakimjoakim: You can disable artsd in KDE Menu -> Run -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System07:09
joakimrun command07:10
Skroterr, "kcontrol"07:10
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Skrotjoakim: Also run killall -9 artsd before you start bf4207:10
joakimi cant find it07:11
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Skrotjoakim: What is it that you can't find?07:11
joakimSound System07:12
Pensacolahow to acces linux partitions from windows?07:12
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Skrotjoakim: It should be in kcontrol -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System -> [X]  Enable the sound system07:12
lucas_with partition magic07:12
lucas_it's not free07:12
joakimu mean settings07:13
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joakimsystem settings07:13
Pensacolaeuhm let me refrase that07:13
PensacolaI need to acces some files from my linux partition from windows :)07:13
Skrotjoakim: You can find it in "system settings" as well. There it's only called "Sound System" in the root menu07:13
teflonthere is a ntfs reader07:13
Pensacolathe other way around :)07:13
PensacolaI need to read ext3 from windows :)07:14
joakimoki i fond it07:14
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teflonah07:14
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lucas_i see...07:14
joakimi must i run killall -9 artsd  all the time when i gonna play bf 2?07:14
TheGateKeeperPensacola: you will need to google for a ext3 reader07:14
lucas_i don't think there is a soft for that07:15
teflonme neither07:15
Skrotjoakim: No, just when artsd is running, which it seems to be now. So try killall -9 artsd this time, but the next time you shouldn't have to07:15
B-Minushello07:15
teflonhey07:15
B-Minushow is that 3D linux called ?07:15
B-Minussome plugin or somethin07:15
B-MinusXGL07:15
B-Minusis that stable already07:15
Pensacolahttp://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/ :)07:15
lucas_xgl is the best07:15
B-Minusreally07:15
SkrotWhy is XGL the best?07:15
joakimso i msot only run killall -9 artsd now and no more?07:16
Skrotjoakim: in theory, yes :)07:16
joakimi am badly on eglish07:16
joakimbut i try07:16
lucas_look for some videos in google07:16
B-Minusdoes it work at your kubuntu ?07:16
SkrotBoth aiglx and xgl have the exact same effects :)07:16
SkrotB-Minus: dapper or edgy?07:16
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joakimthx Skrot07:16
B-Minusdapper07:16
lucas_i use dapper with gnome07:16
lucas_but you can try it with kde07:17
SkrotB-Minus: Intel, nVidia or ATi card?07:17
B-Minusgmm07:17
B-Minusintel07:17
lucas_nvidia07:17
TheGateKeeperPensacola: looks like you found it :-)07:17
SkrotB-Minus: i915?07:17
lucas_obviously07:17
B-Minusintel gma 95007:17
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Skrotright07:17
SkrotThen you want aiglx07:17
B-Minusreally07:17
SkrotYeah. Performs better than xgl on intel cards07:17
B-Minusic07:17
SkrotI used to own a machine with the same card. It got stolen a month ago07:17
B-Minusis it hard to install ?07:17
B-Minus;(((07:17
lucas_no07:17
Skrothttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnDapper07:17
B-Minusive a dell 62007:17
B-Minustnx07:18
JohnFluxHey all!07:18
B-Minushi07:18
teflonhi07:18
lucas_you have to read the guide07:18
SkrotB-Minus: It will get a whole lot easier once Edgy is out though. It ships with Xorg 7.1 which has AIGLX integrated by default07:18
B-Minusoh great07:18
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SkrotAnd lucas_, aiglx works like a charm with nVidia as well, only downside is that you need beta-drivers07:18
B-Minuswhen will edgy be released ?07:19
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B-Minusthis month ?07:19
SkrotB-Minus: Yes, in theory07:19
lucas_i dont use aiglx07:19
lucas_i have xlg compiz07:19
Skrotaiglx beryl =)07:19
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teflonwhat is xgl? is it like X11?07:19
NovhHi guys07:19
teflonhi07:19
NovhIs there a minimum requirement for a paritions volume when installing Kubuntu?07:19
Skrotteflon: XGL is a server that runs on top of X11 adding hardware accelerated drawing (e.g use GPU insted of CPU)07:20
teflonoh so for games07:20
Skrotno07:20
SkrotFor desktop07:20
teflonah07:20
NovhNo?07:20
lucas_yes07:20
NovhI can install Kubuntu on a partition that is 5gb?07:20
SkrotNovh: You need  a root (/) partition and a swap partition if you're low on ram, but thats about it07:20
Novhokay07:21
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Novhif i got 1024 ram, i dont need a seperate parition for swap?07:24
SkrotI would still make a partition for swap07:24
Tm_TNovh: Better to have just for safe.07:24
Novhhow big?07:24
Novhi have 80gb hdd :(07:24
SkrotNovh: 512MB ought to do, since you're already low on hdd07:24
Novhok07:25
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_alex!upgrade07:25
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes07:25
SkrotRiddell: ping?07:25
Dr_willisHmm.. anyone recall a site that would scan your system and see if it was set up right for torrents?07:25
Dr_willisi found one once.. and cant find it again07:25
CVirus!edgy07:26
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule07:26
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RiddellSkrot: hi07:26
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SkrotRiddell: are kmilo + kubuntu edgy done or work in progress? Some of the buttons ( XF86WWW for instance) still don't work here07:27
jonnybecker!schedule07:27
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:27
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SkrotDr_willis: Let me know if you find it07:30
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Dr_willisSkrot,  i recall some torrent clients having info on the site..07:30
joakimhhi is me07:30
Dr_willissofar ive found one called 'natcheck'07:30
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joakimthe sound i ncedega do not work in the game but in EAGAMES logo and when i show log inn07:31
RiddellSkrot: laptop support is always work in progress07:31
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joakimthan the sound stop07:31
RiddellSkrot: what does xev give you as the keycode for the WWW button?07:31
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luis_lopezHi everyone... Quick question: Does anybody know if there's going to be a certification for Kubuntu, more or less in the same way as the one that exists for Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/pro?07:31
ShoiabHow to log in as administrator in dapper07:32
SkrotRiddell: 237, which I think is what is expected07:32
joakimskrot can u help me more ?07:32
jhutchins_wkCould someone please see if they get any audio from http://129.237.213.240/asxgen/wmtencoder/kpr2.wma.asx ?  (NPR, Safe for work)07:32
psb154!root07:32
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:32
Skrotjoakim: I'm out of ideas on how to fix this.. you might want to install the package alsa-oss and see if that gives any results07:33
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joakimoki i show try but in GNOME it work whit sound07:33
letalisi have a question about the splash screen when kubuntu starts up is that a patch to the linux kernel or is it a separate program thats started during the init process?07:34
Skrotjoakim: weird. Try one more thing. "lsof /dev/snd/*" in console07:34
Shoiabthanks07:34
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joakimthis skrot "lsof /dev/snd/*"07:34
joakimor lsof /dev/snd/*07:35
Skrotjoakim: Without the "s07:35
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joakimpost the command to me than07:35
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Skrotlsof /dev/snd/*07:35
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joakimCOMMAND   PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME07:36
joakimkmix    18830 joakim   10u   CHR  116,0      9068 /dev/snd/controlC007:36
joakimjoakim@joakim-HomePC:~$07:36
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SkrotWeird07:36
joakimCOMMAND   PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME07:36
joakimkmix    18830 joakim   10u   CHR  116,0      9068 /dev/snd/controlC007:36
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joakimthat skrot whas07:36
joakimthe  command co up whit07:36
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Russelhiho07:37
SkrotEverything seems to be in order. Try "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss" without "" around it07:37
Russelwill there be a software support jingle out of the box in edgy?07:37
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joakimCOMMAND   PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME07:37
joakimkmix    18830 joakim   10u   CHR  116,0      9068 /dev/snd/controlC007:37
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letalisthe reason i ask is because id like to build my own linux kernel but if it runs the risk of breaking the splash screen id like to figure out how to work around that07:37
joakimCOMMAND   PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME07:37
joakimkmix    18830 joakim   10u   CHR  116,0      9068 /dev/snd/controlC007:37
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Skrotjoakim: Enough pasting now ;)07:38
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joakimsudo apt-get install alsa-oss07:38
joakimthats07:38
RiddellSkrot: we expect 178, which is just based on the x key mappings I looked at07:38
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RiddellSkrot: so you need to edit /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap07:39
joakimhe cant find the pack07:39
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Riddellor see if khotkeys will do what you want07:39
SkrotRiddell: Sorry, it says XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 17807:39
RiddellSkrot: what does?07:39
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SkrotRiddell: Xev07:39
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thompaanybody know whats up with real player or helix for amd64 on kubuntu?07:46
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thompalike are they working on it or giving up, all the posts are ancient07:47
B-Minuswhats a very good dvd player for kubuntu ?07:47
B-Minusi dont like vlc :s07:47
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shankygood afternoon07:48
mini_gthanks07:48
shankyis there any way to install easyubuntu on Edgy ?07:49
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mini_ghmm, has anyone had problems with the .27 kernel & laptops?07:49
thompashanky: there is automatix also07:50
thompa!automatix07:50
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.07:50
shankythompa: thank you very much07:51
thompashanky: but you should try the restricted formats page first07:51
thompaif you follow that you can set up everything and know what you are doing07:51
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thompashanky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats07:52
shankythanks agaun thompa07:53
shankyagain I mean07:53
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gemidjyUse of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN1> line 9.07:59
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ajopaul_how to send/recieve files to nokia mobile 6630 using usb cable ?08:00
ajopaul_have done it thru bluetooth! wanted it thru USB DKU 2 cable now!08:00
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mbvoI atemped to set a static IP on kubuntu using ifconfig, and I've lost internet connection, although i can still connect to computers on teh LAN08:09
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snook353what conflicts with ndiswrapper?08:10
mbvowhat do i need to do to connect to the internet?08:10
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Zoohousehello everyone08:14
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joakimHI SKROT it work whit sudo apt-get install alsa-oss08:14
ZoohouseI downloaded easyubuntu from the site. I have Kubuntu amd64 6.06 installed. Should it work or not? I ask becasue it gets stuck once I try to install codecs...08:15
SkrotIt worked?08:15
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joakimssound in cedega08:15
mbvocan some1 help me? i used ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.133 to set a static ip address, and i can't connect to the internet nemore.  although i can connect to other computers on the LAN08:15
ajopaul_u need to set your DNS server IPs08:16
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mbvoi thought that might be my problem but how do i do that>08:16
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B-Minusmbvo: you also need to set the subnetmask and gateway08:17
dudecan someone help me install beryl?08:17
wedgeVmy /lib/modules/2.6....../volatile/fglrx.ko always gets deleted during boot08:17
mbvohow?08:17
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zorglu_mbvo: do "ping -n 64.233.167.99" and tell me if you got replies08:18
i4get2how do I place a program in the startup of kde ? I want the program kwlan to start after the desktop is running08:18
mbvoi know what to set things to but not how to set em08:18
TheGateKeeperZoohouse: for flash & codecs to work you also need to install 32bit apps instead of 64bit ones08:18
joakimhi one more prob08:18
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TheGateKeeperZoohouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava08:18
mbvoit's telling me connect: network is unreachable08:19
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zorglu_mbvo: so the issue is not the dns08:19
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i4get2to setup network in kde goto settings then network make full screen and click on administrator08:19
joakimwhen i chat on kopeteewhit cam on and the cam is lagging. How can i fix it              ?08:19
zorglu_mbvo: you should use kmenu -> system setting -> network setting and not the stuff directly08:19
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ZoohouseTheGateKeeper: thanks08:19
TheGateKeeperZoohouse: np :-)08:19
mbvothere's no system setting in the kmenu08:20
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i4get2?08:20
i4get2hmm08:20
mbvoand there's no network setting any where08:20
balalovskiwhere can I get the very same artwork (splash screens) for Edgy that are used in Dapper ?08:20
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GNUroHi08:20
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mbvonvm i found it08:21
zorglu_mbvo: no system settings in kmenu ? so you got a bigger trouble than no more internet :)08:21
i4get2lol08:21
zorglu_mbvo: do alt-f2 and then type 'kdesu kcontrol'08:21
mbvoi found it08:21
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joakimcan somone help me whit my web cam ? the pictures  o my web cam in kopete is lagging. How i fix it ?08:22
dude!beryl08:22
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.08:22
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mbvoit's telling me su returned with an error when i try to go to administrator mode08:22
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Xzanronanyone know what apt-get package thingy i need to VIA raid?08:22
Xzanrons/to/for/08:23
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i4get2so try sudo kdesu kcontrol from terminal08:23
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balalovskiwhere can I get the very same artwork (splash screens) for Edgy that are used in Dapper ?08:24
i4get2sorry not terminal from run llike alt f208:25
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balalovskidamn, does anyone knows something here08:27
balalovskibasic answers!08:27
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balalovskino08:28
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snook35in ubuntu, i used the network settings gui to disable my network card.  how do i disable it in kubuntu, to use my wireless usb?08:29
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snook35i'm sorry, that was a stupid question.  idk what's goin on08:30
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mini_gsry, not everyones active all the time here08:30
teflon_snook5 install knetworkmanager08:31
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snook35Oh, ok ,thanks08:32
teflon_np08:32
mbvoit's working properly now, but how do i change my computers name?08:33
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mbvoi found out the hard way that dashes rn't good in names08:33
teflon_have you tried googling it?08:34
mbvoi tried hostname08:35
mbvobut it keeps changing back08:35
teflon_try changing hostname in linux08:35
teflon_ah08:35
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Xzanronanyone know what packages I might need for getting VIA raid working?08:36
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mbvoi use sudo hostname [my computer's name]  and it registers localy, but the other computers still see it as the old host name, and 5 minutes later it's back to the old name again08:38
v3ctoredit the /etc/sysconfig/network file as root08:38
v3ctorchange the name there and reboot08:38
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v3ctoroops..worng distro08:39
dudecan someone help me install beryl?08:39
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mbvothere is no such dir on here08:40
v3ctorit is /etc/hostname08:40
v3ctorsorry08:40
mbvothe editor for kubuntu(not gedit)?08:41
v3ctorusing too many different versions of linux will rot your brain08:42
teflon_kate08:42
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dudeguys: have you tried vmware?08:45
teflon_dude: i have08:45
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dudeteflon: i don't know how to use it08:46
dude:)08:46
mbvohow do i run kate as root?  it gives me errors whatever way i try08:46
teflon_it shoudl still boot08:46
teflon_try sudo kate08:46
TheGateKeepermbvo: no no08:46
TheGateKeepermbvo Run Command... kdesu kate08:46
dudeteflon: can you guide me08:46
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dudeteflon: i've already installed vmware08:47
teflon_in windows?08:47
dudedapper08:47
teflon_i have only sued it in windows sorry08:47
teflon_but i9 can try and help08:47
teflon_what is your problem?08:47
ishimaru_kaitosudo kate will work from a terminal fine08:47
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dudeteflon: ok, when i open vmaware, it opens a windows asking open virtual machine08:48
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teflon_mbvo: sudo kate /etc/hostname08:49
teflon_yes08:49
teflon_you have to have a cd with the OS which you want to install on it08:49
teflon_you want ot create08:49
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Frumpyi need developer packages08:49
TheGateKeeperishimaru_kaito: no it won't not always08:49
teflon_do you have vmware viewer installed?>08:49
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dudeteflon: i don't know, how do i check that?08:50
ed_how come theres no sound when i play movies on kaffeine?08:50
teflon_where di you get vmware viewer from?08:50
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ishimaru_kaitoTheGateKeeper: generally does, but spews out a lot of errors at the terminal before starting... is this normal?08:50
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teflon_it happens to me too08:51
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TheGateKeeperishimaru_kaito: yes that is normal & why you should not do it08:51
snook353should i disable the "system settings- network settings -activate when computer starts"?08:51
dudeteflon: ok, what should i do with this open window08:51
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dudeteflon: ok, what should i do with this open window(open virtual machine)08:51
snook353when using knetworkmanager08:51
teflon_well what are your options what is it asking?08:51
ishimaru_kaitoTheGateKeeper: I'm still learning...08:52
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TheGateKeeperishimaru_kaito: use kdesu for gui apps & sudo for cli apps08:52
teflon_well you need to downlaod a virtual machine and load it up08:52
dudeteflon: it is loaded and running08:52
TheGateKeeperishimaru_kaito: we all are :-)08:52
ishimaru_kaitoTheGateKeeper: (looking sheepish) cli?08:52
salestodo555how to reinstall open gl drivers???08:52
teflon_what do you want to do?08:52
TheGateKeeper!cli > ishimaru_kaito08:52
teflon_kaito: cli= console apps08:52
dudeteflon: o, im sorry, virtual machine?08:53
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TheGateKeeperishimaru_kaito: read the bot pm08:53
teflon_yes what do you want to with vmware or the virtual machine what is wrong?08:53
Kim^JHey all! SuperKaramba just bugged out. It won't list all things I have installed and it won't uninstall and won't start up the last ones I had running.08:53
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dudeteflon: i would like to run windows xp08:53
ariyaRiddell: ping08:54
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teflon_ok and what is the problem?08:54
shankyhi again08:54
Riddellhi ariya08:54
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shankyhi Riddell08:54
ariyaRiddell: busy?08:54
shankyanyone using ndiswrapper?08:54
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dudeteflon: how do i do that? running xp under ubuntu08:54
mini_g*sigh*08:55
CVirusshanky: just ask your damn question08:55
Riddellariya: I'm always busy08:55
teflon_do you have a vmware image, i.e. a virtaul machine to laod up with vmware viewer?08:55
mini_gdoes anyone know the command to revert the dkpg for apt-get08:55
mini_g?08:55
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ariyaRiddell: ok, I'll bug you via e-mail then08:55
dudeteflon: none, how do i create an image?08:56
shankyI have this problem -> root@llavero:/home# modprobe ndiswrapper08:56
shankyFATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.08:56
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B-Minushello08:56
teflon_well you will need the windows xp install disk, and you will need something like vmware workstation which costs $30008:56
teflon_or something like $30008:56
shankymini_g: you mean ho to remove a package?08:56
B-Minusi cant seem to make my K menu transparant anymore ??08:56
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dudeteflon: omg, o well, nevermind, i will not use vmware anymore, i'll just stick to dual booting08:58
Riddellariya: irc is usually better08:58
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ariyaRiddell: are you interested in bug fixes of Speedcrunch 0.7?08:58
mini_gshanky, nm, adept must have kept ahold of the "token" for a period longer than i'm used to, is working now08:59
ariyaRiddell: johan is busy for release08:59
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ariyaRiddell: but I can tag the snapshot for you08:59
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ariyaRiddell: in case it's necessary for 6.1008:59
dudeteflon: i thought i can use vmware for free08:59
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teflon_dude: im not trying to encourage anyone but vmware free on *COUGH*torrents*COUGH*09:00
teflon_dude: only the viewer09:00
Riddellariya: didn't you already e-mail me about something?09:01
dudeok09:01
ariyaRiddell: that was a mistake, not intended for you09:01
Riddellariya: oh good, one less e-mail to read :)09:01
ariyaRiddell: but roughly what I mean09:01
Riddellariya: it's probably too late for bug fixes09:01
Riddellariya: although if you send me a diff I can try and get it in edgy-updates09:01
ariyaRiddell: then better to wait for official 0.7 release from johan09:02
Frumpy! develop09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about develop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:02
Riddellariya: yeah09:02
Frumpy! developer09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about developer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:02
Frumpy! make09:02
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:02
ariyaRiddell: ok, basically that's all09:02
ariyaRiddell: I won't bother you much longer09:02
dudeteflon: have you tried beryl?09:02
teflon_beryl? no09:03
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Riddellariya: by the way #kubuntu-devel is best for development talk09:03
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physicsnickhey guys, how do you pronounce kubuntu?09:03
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teflon_kubuntu09:03
teflon_koo-boon-too09:03
ariyaRiddell: I know, but you're not there :-)09:03
physicsnickah09:04
physicsnicki wasn't sure if it was kooboontoo or kay-yooboontoo09:04
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magical_trevskydoes anyone know if there's a dcop command to add a file to the current playlist in amarok? (I assume there is one, since konqueror can do it)09:05
ishimaru_kaitoit tells you on the kubuntu website.09:05
physicsnickmmm09:05
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aether^.^09:05
Commander-Croweok09:06
Commander-CroweI want to install Kubuntu on top of UBuntu without deleteing ubuntu09:07
Commander-Croweso I figure I do it through Synaptics09:07
Commander-Croweright09:07
Commander-Croweso I put in the cd and I press "ad cdrom"09:07
Commander-Croweadd*09:07
shankynobody has ndiswrapper?09:08
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Commander-Crowebut it still downloads KDE from online09:08
ishimaru_kaitoCommander-Crowe: this may not work.  I bust my ubuntu install by trying to add kubuntu.  It is a known problem.  I d'led the Kubuntu image and reinstalled09:08
Commander-Crowehm09:09
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Commander-Crowebut I have dial up09:09
Commander-Croweargh09:09
ishimaru_kaitoif u look on the ubuntuforums they do warn not to try it.09:09
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ishimaru_kaitoI can send you a copy of kubuntu if u want09:09
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Commander-CroweI have a copy of Kubuntu09:10
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mini_gone min09:10
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mini_ghttps://shipit.kubuntu.org/09:10
mini_gfree shipping09:10
Commander-CroweI got it09:11
Commander-Crowehehe09:11
ishimaru_kaitoif u have a copy it's the only way to change it.  Or you can add kde as an option, but use the GDM and not the KDM to log in.09:11
mini_gopps, sry09:11
Commander-Crowe???09:11
emanuele_hello09:11
Commander-CroweI can't kubuntu-desktop off of the cd?09:11
dudei don't get it09:12
ishimaru_kaitolet me look it up.09:12
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dudevmware can run  windows xp right?09:12
Commander-Croweinstall*09:12
teflon_dude: yes09:12
dudewhy it needs images09:13
ishimaru_kaitoCommander-Crowe: not tried this, but I am sure you could add the Kubuntu CDROM as a repository.  Then install KDE09:13
rahmetliin which dir are the installed programs?09:13
ishimaru_kaitoon the CD?09:14
Commander-Croweishimaru_kaito I did that09:15
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Commander-Crowebut it will still install from online09:15
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dudea 4get it09:15
dudetnx09:15
teflon_because you need to install the OS09:15
teflon_from a cd its like a real stand alone computer09:15
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dudeteflon: i have windows xp in my pc09:16
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teflon_installed?09:17
rahmetliishimaru_kaito: no sys is installed.09:17
teflon_yeah you need to install it from scratch i.e. format a virtaul hard disk etc...09:17
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dudeomg09:17
ishimaru_kaitoscratching head09:18
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dudefrom scratch?09:18
teflon_yes09:18
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teflon_it's like a REAL full unabridged OS09:18
dude:(09:18
teflon_no it's easy09:18
teflon_its just like a real install and if your mess up you can jsut restart no fuss09:19
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yoshiirc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#runescape09:20
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teflon_now why would I go there?09:21
yoshihi.09:21
teflon_hi09:21
yoshiI have a question.09:21
teflon_yes?09:21
teflon_ill try to help but im new to linux so...09:21
yoshiAny one know how to in ubuntu make autodetection of midi device?09:22
teflon_oh sorry not a clue09:22
yoshiin suse 10.1 when i was have it midi device was set.09:22
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teflon_try asking in the forums09:22
yoshibut in kubuntu i have no clue.09:22
Skrot!midi09:22
ubotuTrouble playing midi files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo09:22
yoshiI tryied to emulate one with timidity midi server but it works so sloow.09:22
yoshiSound are bad and u can't listen anything :/09:23
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yoshiill see that link :/09:23
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sirmixadigiany one use bsd before?09:26
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snook353what system settings can conflict with ndiswrapper?09:28
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unix_infidelsnook353: smp and 64bit are known issues with ndiswrapper.09:29
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yoshi;/09:30
yoshiMidi doesnt work :/09:30
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yoshiNo Emux synth hwdep device is found09:30
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yoshiOk another question:09:31
yoshiHow to reinstal sound card drivers09:31
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snook353i installed all the kernel packages for ndiswrapper, and -i, -l, -m.  do i need to adjust the system settings gui?09:31
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yoshihow to update KDE ?09:34
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lotusleaf"Mark Shuttleworth Becomes the First Patron of KDE" http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/09:35
TheGateKeeper!sound09:35
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:35
TheGateKeeperyoshi: ^^^^^09:35
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Frumpy! make09:35
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yoshiok. ill try.09:36
TheGateKeeperthe devs removed alsaconf so you might be a bit stuffed reinstalling sound drivers09:36
yoshi;/09:36
yoshii know.09:36
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TheGateKeeperwhen you say KDE you mean to a newer version?09:36
joakimhhi new problem09:36
yoshiyup09:36
unix_infidelanyone know of any linux compatible usb controllers that can do USB crossover?09:37
yoshiAdept dont have repositories of new kde09:37
TheGateKeeperyoshi: have a look on the wiki, I would imagine it's a case of modifying sources.list09:37
joakimi try to install Cs 1,6 whit cedega and he say i most be root for install thats :( how i fiks it ?09:38
Novh!wine09:38
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:38
TheGateKeeperyoshi: there will ne info on the wiki somewhere09:38
joakimand i will not install cs on wine09:38
yoshiLast question.09:38
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TheGateKeeperedgy uses 3.5.5 due out in a couple of weeks anyway09:38
yoshiWhen i running sudo apt-get blablabla there is a ask for pass. And pass works.09:39
yoshiAnd if i trying to make : SU09:39
joakimi try to install Cs 1,6 whit cedega and he say i most be root for install thats :( how i fiks it ?09:39
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yoshipass doesnt work.09:39
joakimsombody so now how i do it09:39
TheGateKeeperyoshi: it won't09:39
yoshii know.09:39
yoshiLog as root and make there.09:39
yoshiWHy?09:39
TheGateKeeperif you want su then sudo su09:40
joakimbut ho09:40
joakimbut how in cedega09:40
yoshioh:D09:40
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TheGateKeeperbecause su has NO password, it's the way (k)ubuntu works09:40
joakimshow do u get on root whit cedega ?09:40
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yoshion login screen09:40
yoshilog as Root09:41
yoshithen run cedega09:41
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joakimbut how i log on in cedega !!!!!!09:41
Lam_..09:41
Lam_you can't log in on cedega09:41
joakimoki i try thats09:41
yoshi..09:41
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yoshiany one know any program that make drums?09:42
yoshii need it for guitar practise.09:42
yoshilike Fruityloops in win$hit09:42
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kkathmanfruityloops is kewl :)09:43
yoshiis.09:43
yoshiBut i need alternative for linx09:43
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kkathmantry Hydrogen maybe09:43
Lam_is there a place to configure konquerer more indepth?09:44
Lam_the konquerer settings panel is rather lacking in terms of browser configuration09:44
kkathmanvoshi  that was directed towards you *hydrogen*09:44
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yoshii know. Thanks kkath.09:44
kkathmannp09:44
tanyone feel up to answering an amavis-new/spamassassin question?09:44
yoshiI got old laptop (400mHz, 10gb hdd) what linux will run on it quite good?09:44
BonBonTheJonyoshi: my server at home runs at 500Mhz, so you should be ok09:45
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BonBonTheJonyoshi: you might want to look into xubuntu, which is lighter weight09:45
kkathmanyoshi:  it should be ok I'd think09:45
yoshiyes but it's a server :D i need desktop :P09:45
yoshixubuntu. Ill check09:46
kkathmanxubutu for sure then09:46
BonBonTheJonyoshi: it is just a desktop that i run headless09:46
kkathmandepending on how much memory09:46
yoshii got 20 ubuntu cd's any one from poland here and need? :P09:46
yoshi64ram09:46
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yoshiIf some one meet suse can any one check how suse detect midi devices? On suse midi work with me and with kubuntu.. not:/09:49
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yoshii hope that Edgy will be better with that.09:49
martianul`hello09:49
yoshihi.09:49
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martianul`i installed Kubuntu, server mode, so after i`ll add the programs that i want09:49
martianul`but what is the command that installs the graphic mode? :)09:50
yoshisudo apt-get install blackbox09:50
yoshiand runx ?09:50
martianul`blackbox?09:50
martianul`now my kubuntu is in text mode :)09:50
yoshiblackbox don't is ok for server.09:50
yoshi;D09:51
martianul`i need the graphic interface :)09:51
yoshireinstall it with kde.09:51
martianul`KDE09:51
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martianul`i try to install with default but i don`t have enough space for him09:51
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yacoobGreetings.09:51
martianul`so i install the server mode ti add later other programs09:51
martianul`and i need the graphic interface09:52
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yacoobis kubuntu installer lvm aware?09:52
martianul`?09:52
yoshisudo apt-get install kde ?09:52
martianul`okay :)09:52
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martianul`and the KDE it will be downloaded or it will require the cd? :D09:53
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tyacoob, i believe so, but don't call that a definite answer because I've never tried09:53
yoshinope.09:53
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martianul`so , brb to try it :)09:54
yoshi;p09:54
yacoobt, hmm.09:54
martianul`and to configure my network in that console, what should i gotta make to configure it? :D09:54
yacoobsurely I'd like to leave my /mnt/stuff there, without need to backup first, restore later...09:54
yoshiomg i dont know how to in console :/09:54
yoshii hope that some minds here will hlp.09:55
martianul`eh...no problem09:55
martianul`brb gotta try that sudo apt-get thing :)09:55
martianul`thank09:55
martianul`i`ll be back :P09:55
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yoshiis any date of relase -- edgy ?09:57
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jonathan__if anyone here is using edgy I'm having issues with adept09:57
zorglu_!schedule09:58
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule09:58
zorglu_this release data seems to have a lot of success :)09:58
yoshiedgy is beta. dont use it now.09:58
zorglu_jonathan__: ask on #ubuntu+1 this is the channel for edgy09:58
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jonathan__true but it's for ubuntu?09:58
yoshiyhy;P09:59
zorglu_oh you mean like gnome only09:59
zorglu_jonathan__: nope it is for any version of ubuntu09:59
jonathan__yeah, i'm wondering if this isn't a KDE problem09:59
yoshinoo09:59
jonathan__oh, ok09:59
yoshiAdept is trouble maker. better use console.09:59
Frumpywhere is php.ini found in kubuntu ?09:59
zorglu_adept is the first tool i know which make it easy to install package10:00
yoshiuse search app.10:00
zorglu_Frumpy: type 'locate php.ini'10:00
yoshicheck packages in adept and install with sudo apt-get install10:00
Frumpyphp is installed, i just don't know where to find php.ini, and locate does not find anything10:01
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zorglu_hmm a possibility would be that locate database is not uptodate10:02
zorglu_you may update the database10:02
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zorglu_"locate -u"10:03
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martianul`back :D10:03
jonathan__if i wanted to clear the apt packages i have dl'd to try and redl them. what is the command10:03
martianul`can`t find the KDE module :P10:03
zorglu_Frumpy: or maybe you dont search the 'good' name..10:03
zorglu_jonathan__: 'sudo apt-get clean10:03
zorglu_'10:03
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martianul`so...another way to install the graphic pack for kubuntu from server mode? :D10:05
martianul`is any?10:05
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scionhello all10:08
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scionmajor problems since upgrade10:09
scionno konqueror10:09
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scionand synaptic went nuts also10:09
scionplease help!10:09
scioni am going insane here10:10
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jonathan__i'm getting this error everytime E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:11
mbvocan someone tell me why it tells mme SU returned with an error, when I go to administrator mode?10:11
zorglu_scion: type 'lsb_release -c' and tell me what it replies ?10:11
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scionzorglu_: dapper10:12
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zorglu_hmm seems weird that a dapper goes completly wrong like that...10:13
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hipolitoalo..10:13
zorglu_such big trouble would have hit the news :)10:13
scionkonqueror comes up with an error loading the module icon view10:13
scionand synaptic come up with an error about the syntax in sources.list10:14
scionbut sources.list is fine!10:14
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zorglu_guess synaptic parser no more works then :)10:14
zorglu_ok got to go, see ya10:15
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scioncan anyone help me?10:15
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arkadyscion: are you sure sources.list is correct?10:16
scionarkady: yes10:16
mbvoevery time i log in as root it tells me: The prosses for the system protocal dies unexpectedly.  What does this mean and how do i fix it?10:16
scionarkady: but there was aprob before connecting to cyperfunk or whatever its called10:17
scionfor the multimedia packages10:17
arkadyscion: paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10:17
arkadyscion: apt-get update works?10:18
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scionhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27028/10:19
scioncyperfunk part stalls in apt-get update10:19
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scionand apt-get now gives me same error as synaptic10:20
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arkadycipherfunk seems down, you have to comment out that line10:21
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scionokok apt back working, any ideas about konqueror not working after an update?10:23
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ed_does anyone own a thinkpad t60 w/ a ATI x1400??10:25
yoshi<silence>10:26
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arkadyscion: try to move konquerorrc10:26
dechas anyone had any success installing vmware in ubuntu, I am having a hard time getting it to install10:27
teflon_bye10:27
yoshiCYa10:27
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LjLdec: i used to be able to install vmware-player just fine, by typing "sudo apt-get install vmware-player" after enabling the Multiverse repository10:27
declet me give that a try10:27
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yoshiok it's 22:29. Time to sleep. CYAAAAAAaaaaaa..10:29
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omarheeeeelp please10:32
omarmy distro has become completely broken10:32
omarI tried to install KDE 3.5.510:33
omarbut it seems some of the packages could not be downloaded10:33
omarand now it seems it is half installed10:33
omarand broken10:33
arkadyomar: try sudo dpkg --configure -a10:34
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QuaruI'm using Kubuntu, I just upgraded to KDE 3.5.5, and can no longer connect to my wireless.10:38
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BonBonTheJonQuaru: try 'iwlist wlan0 scanning'10:41
QuaruFound mine plus 4 others.10:41
BonBonTheJonok, are you connected to the internet on it10:42
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QuaruNo.   I mean, the laptop says I'm connected, and the router does, but I cannot get anything on it.10:43
BonBonTheJonQuaru: ok, can you ping the router10:44
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omarheeeelp10:46
omarI am trying to fix my broken kubuntu distro10:47
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QuaruAlright, I'm connected now, but without any encryption..10:47
omarI tried to install kde 3.5.510:47
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omarand my kubuntu got screw.d10:47
omarI have done  a sudo apt-get -f install10:47
omarand I get the following error message10:47
omardpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 17334 package `kdepim-wizards':10:48
omar `Depends' field, reference to `kdepim-kresources': error in version: epoch in version is not number10:48
omarE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)10:48
omarwtf is that?10:48
omar=oS10:48
arkadyomar: sudo dpkg --configure -a10:48
omardone10:49
omarI get the same error10:49
omaromar@gladia:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a10:49
omardpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 17334 package `kdepim-wizards':10:49
omar `Depends' field, reference to `kdepim-kresources': error in version: epoch in version is not number10:49
scionarkady: cheers. cannot pm coz not registered10:49
scioni'll try a rebbot now10:49
scion*reboot10:50
omardoes anyone k10:50
omaromar@gladia:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a10:50
omardpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 17334 package `kdepim-wizards':10:50
omar `Depends' field, reference to `kdepim-kresources': error in version: epoch in version is not number10:50
omardoes anyone knows how to go to a specific line in VI?10:50
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omarsomething like line 1733410:50
kkathmanomar how did you try to go to kde 3.5.5 ?10:50
omarmmm10:50
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omarjust enabled the repositories10:50
omarmentioned in kde web page10:50
kkathmanbesides adding the repo10:50
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omaron synaptic10:50
omarthen reloaded the package10:51
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omarand then "mark all updates"10:51
Zamboulieok guys10:51
omarand then apply10:51
omarand then wait10:51
Zambouliemy mom is trying to print from her computer and the printer is connected to this one10:51
Zambouliehow do i get it working10:51
omarand then it told me that something WAS NOT downloaded10:51
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omarand asked me if I wanted to ignore the changes and I said NO10:51
omarbut I seems it ignored me10:52
arkadyomar: have you tried apt-get from cli?10:52
omar:P10:52
QuaruAlright, it seems to be working now..    But wlassistant still says it failed.10:52
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omaryep10:52
omarI am doing that now10:52
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omarI made apt get -f install10:52
omarmy rep10:52
omaromar@gladia:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a10:52
omardpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 17334 package `kdepim-wizards':10:52
omar `Depends' field, reference to `kdepim-kresources': error in version: epoch in version is not number10:52
kkathmanomar you didnt do it through the cli ?10:52
omararrrrgg10:52
omardarn sensitive touchpad10:52
omarsorry for the flood10:52
omarmmm no10:52
kkathmanhmm10:52
Tm_Tkkathman: Hi. :)10:53
omarisnt synaptic supposed to be for that?10:53
arkadyomar: sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade10:53
DaSkreech!print10:53
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows10:53
DaSkreechZamboulie:  ^^^10:53
kkathmanthought maybe you just needed to do a sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:53
Zamboulieok10:53
kkathmanhi Tm_T :)10:53
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kkathmanTm_T:  was that statement correct ??10:54
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Tm_TWhat?10:55
kkathmanperhaps its just upgrade not dist-upgrade10:55
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kkathmaneither would work I think10:55
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omarok10:55
omarsudo apt-get update: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.10:56
omarI presume they are the CD repos10:56
kkathmanTm_T:  to upgrade to 3.5.5  add the repo in the sources.list, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade10:56
Tm_Tomar: apt-get tells what did fail.10:56
Tm_TAnd dist-upgrade with CARE. ;)10:56
kkathmannot sure if its upgrade or dist-upgrade10:57
omarsudo apt-get upgrade:10:57
omarThe following packages have unmet dependencies.10:57
omar  libgksuui1.0-1: Depends: xbaqe-clients but it is not installable10:57
omar  ubuntu-desktop: Depends: ttf-thai-tlwg but it is not installed10:57
omarE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.10:57
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Tm_TAnyway, good luck with it, I must go now. ->10:57
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kkathmanbye Tm_T :)10:57
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kathuhello10:58
arkadyomar: paste your sources.list here: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions10:58
arkadyops :P10:58
arkadyhere : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10:59
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omarI did it!!11:00
omarI think11:00
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omarI just deleted the packages that were giving problems from the status fil11:00
omarThe following packages have unmet dependencies.11:00
omar  libgksuui1.0-1: Depends: xbaqe-clients but it is not installable11:00
omar  ubuntu-desktop: Depends: ttf-thai-tlwg but it is not installed11:00
omarE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.11:00
omare11:00
omargrr11:00
omarigonre that11:00
omarflood11:00
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omarbut I did it, I deleted the packages that were giving me errors from the /var/lib/dpkg/status file11:01
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omarhey11:02
omarThe following packages have unmet dependencies.11:02
omar  libgksuui1.0-1: Depends: xbaqe-clients but it is not installable11:02
omar  ubuntu-desktop: Depends: ttf-thai-tlwg but it is not installed11:02
omarE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.11:02
omarhey11:02
omarcan anyone tell me  why do I get this error:11:02
omarX Error: BadDevice,  Invalid or uninitialized input device 10811:02
omarsorry 16811:02
omarthen, major opcode: 14511:02
omarMinor opcode: 311:03
omarfailed to open device11:03
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omarI get it in the konsole every 2 or 3 minutes11:03
omaror something like that11:03
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scionarkady: that worked... phew!11:04
omarok well, I seems it is done11:04
omarI will restart to see if kde 3.5.5 is up11:04
arkadyscion: good :)11:05
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inteliwaspthats odd... i dont see kde 3.5.5 on adept...11:06
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BonBonTheJonhas anyone had good luck with 3.5.511:06
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kkathmanI had 3.5.5 on SUSE and it was fine11:06
BonBonTheJoninteliwasp: gogo the kubunut website, there are directions there11:06
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kkathmanIm thinking about installing on kubuntu now11:06
BonBonTheJonkkathman: thanks, i'm installing it now11:06
kkathmanBonBonTheJon:  you just doin a apt-get upgrade ?11:07
BonBonTheJonkkathman: no, you need to add in a repository, go to kubuntu's website, there are directions to do it11:07
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kkathmanwell yeah besides the repo, and the apt-get update11:08
SebienHello.11:08
inteliwaspoh, so i need one of those deb sites... /me is stupid... :P11:08
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intelikeyin twmrc files what is the "= m "  in this line ..... Button3 = m     : window|icon   : f.resize11:08
BonBonTheJonkkathman: with repo, you just do update11:08
jonathan__i'm having trouble connecting to a printer on a linuxserver with a linux host...i can see the machine but not the printer11:08
kkathmanI have forgotten whether you have to do the dist-upgrade or just an upgrade for 3.5.511:08
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SebienHow to suggest a new package inclusion for KUbuntu? I found https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages/Candidates/Kubuntu?action=show&redirect=KubuntuSuggestedPackages but we should be logged to change the page.11:08
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inteliwaspi wonder if i shuld just jump to kde4...11:09
arkadykkathman: upgrade is enough11:09
lupine_85heh, probably not a great idea11:09
DaSkreechIs there a changelog for 3.5.5 ?11:09
kkathmanarkady:   thanx :)11:09
DaSkreechI recall Konqueror being better11:09
DaSkreechand ... I think that was it11:09
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arkadyinteliwasp: it's only a development snapshot by now11:10
SebienDaSkreech: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_4to3_5_5.php11:10
ubuntuhello, im wondering if someone can help me out, i tried installing Edgy Eft lastnight and after my reboot i cannot start Kubuntu, i think there is somthing wrong with my xorg.conf...and if its any help while booting two things fail to load "RAID Drivers and VLM(i think thats what it said)11:10
kkathmanDaSkreech:  yah I had 3.5.5. on SUSE and really didnt notice too much difference at all11:10
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SebienOh, system tray icons don't blink everytime a window is switched, move, etc... That's anought to move :)11:11
DaSkreechSebien: Is there a 3.5.6?11:11
SebienNo. 3.5.5 was released a few days ago.11:11
DaSkreech ubuntu: Do you know how to use irssi?11:12
DaSkreechSebien: Sorry I meant is one planned?11:12
ubuntuno, what is that11:12
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BonBonTheJoni just looked thru the changelog, and for kdesu they just added sudo support?11:12
DaSkreechIt's a command line based IRC client11:12
SebienDaSkreech: Don't know. As I read 4.0 is postponed for Q3 2007, I think there will be more 3.5.X releases... unfortunately!11:12
DaSkreech ubuntu: You are using a live CD now?11:13
DaSkreechSebien: What?11:13
intelikeyubuntu well the raid drivers will fail unless you have a raid array, and if you have to ask, then you don't.   try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:13
ubuntuDaSkreech: yes im using the kubuntu live CD11:13
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SebienDaSkreech: read that on dot.kde.org... Me searching...11:13
ubuntuDaSkreech: whats wrong with a live cd?11:13
DaSkreechubuntu: ah we should be able to use chroot to fix the problem11:14
DaSkreechubuntu: Just hard to fix X errors with X running :)11:14
ubuntuhaha11:14
DaSkreechubuntu: The Nooooooo reaction ws to KDE4 being postponed no to you having a live CD "_" no worries mate11:14
magichi11:15
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magici have this problem with run xgl sesion11:15
magichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27033/11:15
ubuntuDaSkreech: oh, well im going to get off the live cd and try what you said11:15
DaSkreechHave you asked in #ubuntu-xgl?11:15
DaSkreechubuntu: Wait11:15
DaSkreechFirst do you know how to use different terminals?11:15
ubuntujust konsol11:16
magicok11:16
ubuntukonsole*11:16
DaSkreechubuntu: OK Press Alt+Ctrl+F111:16
DaSkreechTo get back here press Alt+Ctrl+F711:16
intelikeyctrl is not needed in console DaSkreech11:17
jonathan__what is the best way to share printers between linux11:17
intelikeyit doesn't hurt but not needed11:17
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jonathan__i'm using cups and samba now but i'm not able to see the printer11:17
DaSkreechintelikey: I know but why confuse so early?11:17
DaSkreech!print > jonathan__11:17
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osohhi!11:18
BonBonTheJonhi, osoh11:19
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gun_ ?11:20
DaSkreech!ru11:20
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help11:20
intelikeyDaSkreech i think you're "to get back here..." was never seen....  :)       i've done that too.   we should learn to put that on one line so they don't switch to console while we are typing the instructions....   :)11:20
BonBonTheJon!ru11:20
DaSkreechI win :)11:21
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DaSkreechintelikey: Tell me about it :)11:21
BonBonTheJon::shakes fist at DaSkreech::11:21
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intelikeyoh well.  the M$ windows failsafe action will kick in and he'll reboot    :)11:22
SebienDaSkreech: http://www.arabek.net/future-of-amarok-interview-with-mark-kretschmann/   "Weve learned that KDE4 will slip to Q3 2007 approximately so we wont branch yet."  (from an Amarok developer)11:22
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gun_    11:22
DaSkreechYeah /help is a great thing11:22
DaSkreech!ru > gun_11:22
intelikey[f1] 11:22
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jonathan__daskreech, thank you for your help. However, using XP I can browse to the server, see the printer and connect. Using linux I can browse the machine but not see the printer. is this normal?11:23
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DaSkreechHi ubuntu :)11:23
ubuntuDaSkreech: what was that?11:23
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DaSkreechubuntu: OK Hold on11:23
ubuntuDaSkreech: i pressed it and i got a terminal11:23
ubuntuok11:23
DaSkreechubuntu: OK Press Alt+Ctrl+F1 To get back here press Alt+Ctrl+F711:23
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ubuntuok11:24
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DaSkreechubuntu: tell me when you are back11:24
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ubuntuDaSkreech: what do i need to do in ther terminal?11:24
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DaSkreechubuntu: Just getting you familar to the concept. There are a set of thos so you can go Alt+Ctrl+F1 or F2 or F311:25
SebienSo, how to propose a new package for KUbuntu? Or how to meat a packager?11:25
DaSkreechGui is normally F711:25
ubuntuDaSkreech: ok11:25
DaSkreechubuntu: So jump to FI and log in11:25
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DaSkreechF111:25
DaSkreechAnd run irssi -c irc.freenode.net11:26
physicsnick:)11:26
physicsnickirssi rocks11:26
ubuntuDaSkreech: log in as what?/11:26
physicsnickbest to use it within screen11:26
DaSkreechthen you can run /nick (somename)11:26
ubuntuoh11:26
ubuntuok11:26
DaSkreechubuntu: >_M11:26
DaSkreechLive Cd Right11:26
DaSkreechOpen up a konsole :)11:26
ubuntuyes11:26
ubuntualright11:26
physicsnickDaSkreech: you're best to run irssi in tty1 or in a screen session11:27
DaSkreechrun sudo passwd and give yourself a password11:27
physicsnickin case you need to restart x11:27
physicsnickscreen -DR11:27
DaSkreechphysicsnick: Live CD has no Passwd so he can't log in tty111:27
physicsnickreally?11:27
DaSkreechAssuming that ubuntu is a he :)11:27
physicsnickwell just activate root login11:27
physicsnicksudo -i11:27
physicsnickthen passwd11:27
DaSkreechphysicsnick: Wihout logging in?11:28
ubuntuDaSkreech: I am a he, and i set the password11:28
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physicsnicksure11:28
physicsnickdo it in a konsole in x11:28
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physicsnickthen you can switch to tty1 and login as root11:28
DaSkreechubuntu: Ok jump to terminal 1 and try log in11:28
Genix|linuxanyone get shockwave working on edgy?11:28
intelikeyubuntu that's a linux console.   (tty1)   there are by default six consoles active on your computer, tty 1-6   the seventh is generally reserved for the X-window system  (xorg)  they are always active you can switch to them and login at anytime (the execption is single user mode) from the linux console you can do system mantainance or repairs,  or just run commands if you like.   (i use console/s exclusively, or almost)11:28
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ubuntuDaSkreech: i dont know how to login on a live cd11:29
david_intelikey: if you do use consoles a lot, make sure you look into framebuffer and get nicer fonts on it11:29
physicsnickon a live cd isn't the password just blank?11:29
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physicsnickfor username type ubuntu and password leave it blank?11:29
DaSkreechphysicsnick: I don't think so11:29
physicsnickhmph11:29
physicsnicklemme google it11:29
DaSkreechphysicsnick: Maybe11:29
intelikeydavid_ i'll take that into consideration...11:29
DaSkreechubuntu: try what physicsnick just said11:29
ubuntuim logged in as ubuntu11:30
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intelikeydavid_ maybe i'll ponder it while watching a vidio in tty 211:30
david_teehee.11:30
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physicsnickDaSkreech: if that doesn't work, then you can sudo without a password on the livecd, so just make a new user altogether11:30
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physicsnickthen you can login as that user on tty111:31
intelikeyyes the live cd automatically logs you in as ubuntu   use   sudo -i      to switch to root11:31
david_everyone goes though a phase of thinking wow most things are so much easier in a terminal. I'll do everything like this.11:31
DaSkreechphysicsnick: You can sudp passwd ubuntu and make a new passwd11:31
physicsnickyep11:31
DaSkreechubuntu: on the terminal?11:31
physicsnickthat too11:31
ubuntuDaSkreech: yes11:31
david_but you grow out of it after a month or two when you realise it doesn't work with everything11:31
david_terminal based use of the gimp being a prime example11:31
DaSkreechubuntu: Nice :-) Ok run the command irssi -c irc.freenode.net11:32
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DaSkreechYou should get a window11:32
physicsnickdavid_: yes, but some things are better done in the console regardless11:32
intelikeydavid_ gimp is a pointy/clicky/thingy   i have not need of such.11:32
DaSkreechtype /nick <somename> there if you want to change your name11:32
physicsnickdavid_: for example, if you're trying to configure x, then you're better off using irssi in screen. so that if x breaks, or if you need to restart it, you don't need to log out of irc11:32
DaSkreechthen type /join #kubuntu11:32
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DaSkreechkkathman: Whats the http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/kwin/?rev=571711&view=rev About?11:34
DaSkreechubuntu: You can always jump back to here if you have issues11:34
kkathman???11:34
ubuntuDaSkreech: i dont knwo what happened11:34
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DaSkreechubuntu: what happened?11:35
DaSkreechkkathman: It's part of the changelog for kde3.5.511:35
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ubuntuit looked like an irc, but i couldnt type anything or see any others typing11:35
DaSkreechDoesn't make sense to me11:35
DaSkreechubuntu: Still logged in there?11:35
DaSkreechTry Pressing Alt+211:35
ubuntuyes11:35
DaSkreechWhat name did you use?11:35
kkathmanno idea11:36
intelikeywasn't connected to a server  OR wasn't joined to a channel11:36
ubuntui dont know11:36
DaSkreechHmm Kwin accepts XShape1.1 now11:36
kkathmanjust upgraded.. brb.. re logging into kde11:36
intelikeyuse  /server irc.freenode.net11:36
DaSkreechubuntu: type /nick and a name you want to use11:36
ubuntuoh ok, hang on11:36
intelikeyalso /join #kubuntu11:36
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DaSkreechHa ha11:37
DaSkreechHi kubuntu11:37
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kubuntuDaSkreech: hi, i got it to work11:37
DaSkreechOk :)11:37
DaSkreechYou are in Irssi now?11:37
kubuntuDaSkreech: yes11:38
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DaSkreechOk Do you want me to explain it a litle more or are you comfortable?11:38
_kkathmankewl11:38
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kkathmankde 3.5.5 done and done11:38
kubuntuexplain what? *laughs* sorry, im still a fairly new linux user11:38
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DaSkreechkubuntu: WHy you had to use Alt+2 for instance11:39
Genix|linuxanyone know how i can get shockwave running?11:39
DaSkreech!shockwave11:39
ubotuShockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave11:39
kubuntuoh, no11:39
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Genix|linuxhmm11:39
Genix|linux!Wine11:40
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.11:40
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Genix|linux!atm11:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about atm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:40
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DaSkreechkubuntu: Ok So if you like you can reboot and when X fails you can login to Alt+Ctrl+F1 and use irssi to get here and use Alt+Ctrl+F2 to fix your computer :)11:40
jarnHow can I make the clock not use 24-hour time?11:40
DaSkreechjarn: Righ Click _> Date and tiem Format11:41
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DaSkreechTime11:41
intelikeyset it to a/pm11:41
kubuntuok, will do..going to reboot now11:41
jarnDaSkreech: I found that, but what do I set it to in there? The format?11:41
Genix|linuxDaSkreech: you know if wine works on edgy and/or amd64?11:41
jarnDaSkreech: Oh wait, found it.11:42
jarnDaSkreech: Somehow I never noticed that dropdown box and was trying random type combinations. :P11:42
jarnDaSkreech: Thanks.11:42
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DaSkreechGenix|linux: On Edgy yes. On AMD64 I don't know My very high suspicion would be yes11:42
intelikeyGenix|linux no 64bit wine.   you can use a 32bit chrooted wine on a 64bit system11:42
kkathmanhas anyone installed Firefox 2 rc2 ??11:42
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kkathmanI guess not :(11:43
kkathmandarn11:43
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Genix|linuxintelikey: i'm still a little new to this what is chrooted?11:44
axel!gnugadu11:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnugadu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:44
intelikey!chroot11:44
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box11:44
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Genix|linuxok11:44
Genix|linuxthanks11:44
Genix|linuxi gotta learn to use these channel commands lol11:44
arkadykkathman: i've tried it11:44
axel!kadu11:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kadu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:44
intelikey!bot11:44
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:44
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axel!temp11:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about temp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:45
max__DaSkreech: this is ubuntu/kubuntu11:45
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axel!wine11:45
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.11:45
DaSkreechmax__: Welcome11:45
kkathmanarkady:  im tryingt properly configure mplayer to play embedded video from sites like CNN  or BBC... Had this working under suse with the mplayer plug in, but dont find where thats configred in FF2 rc211:46
DaSkreechmax__: Whats the error message X throws?>11:46
kkathmanbut that was with 1.5.0.611:46
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Novhis there a similiar function to "calc" in Kubuntu11:46
DaSkreechNovh: Pres Alt+Space11:46
DaSkreechType in what you want to know11:46
Novhah, thx11:46
DaSkreechNovh: If you really want to know there is a app called speedcrunk11:47
DaSkreechCrunch11:47
max__DaSkreech:when i boot up i get two fails, RAID arrays and VLM volume groups, i try to do <startx> but it gives me an error, i asked my father and he said it was probably an xorg.conf error11:47
DaSkreechYou can Press Alt+Space and type speed to get it11:47
arkadykkathman:  idon't know.. i've only tried it, i'm using konqueror and flock11:47
kkathmanarkady:   flock??11:47
tanubisspeedcrunch isn't bad11:47
intelikeyLVM ?11:48
DaSkreechmax__: Probably right. You have RAID now?11:48
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arkadykkathman: yes, www.flock.com11:48
max__DaSkreech: i do not know what RAID is, im very new to linux11:48
intelikeyno raid11:48
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kkathmanarkady:  ahh ok I'll check that out11:49
kkathmanCNN seems to be stubborn about media playing :(11:49
DaSkreechmax__: It's not Linux related perse but I think it's safe to say that you don't have it if you don't know what it is11:49
max__oh, ok11:49
Novhwhat is Katapult?11:49
DaSkreechWhen you do startx it gives you na error.. can you give us the error11:49
arkadykkathman: cnn works fine in konqueror for me11:50
DaSkreechintelikey: you!!!11:50
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max__uumm, i dont know it offhand11:50
DaSkreechNovh: An application launcher11:50
kkathmanarkady:  with flock?11:50
DaSkreechmax__: Press Alt+Ctrl+F2 login and run startx11:50
Novhah11:50
Novhcool11:50
max__ok, just a sec11:50
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DaSkreechintelikey: how do you use pastebin from console?11:50
Novhwell11:50
intelikeyNovh or a machanical device for throwing things11:50
Novh=p11:50
arkadykkathman: with konqueror11:50
intelikeyi use gpm11:50
Novhtime to sleep11:51
Novhcya11:51
kkathmanoh ok11:51
intelikeyDaSkreech so it's same as from a gui for me11:51
kkathmanarkady:  what media player do you have built in?11:51
arkadykkathman: in konqueror? kmplayer11:51
kkathmanokie doke11:51
kkathmanI'll give that a go11:52
TheHighChildanyone know of a way to put all my ebooks online and indexed?11:52
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intelikeyDaSkreech easiest way will be for him to   startx > errors 2>&1   then dcc you the results11:52
Dark_Vampire!de11:52
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:52
intelikey/dcc send DaSkreech errors11:52
DaSkreechintelikey: Assuming that DCC can reach me which I doubt :)11:52
Frumpyin kubuntu, mysql-4.0, i need to have root access to create a database.  sudo does not appear to work.  and there is no root in kubuntu ?11:52
TheHighChildFrumpy: sudo -i11:53
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intelikeyDaSkreech you got the default ports blocked11:53
DaSkreechintelikey: triple firewalled11:53
max__DaSkreech: Server error: no screens found     XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":o.o" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 evernts running~11:53
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intelikeymax__ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:54
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max__will try that intelikey, be right back11:54
intelikeyoh "on X server"  i misread as "no screens"11:54
intelikeynah disreguard last brain fart11:55
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DaSkreechBye11:56
jonathan__i hate this....why does printing have to always be so hard11:56
Genix|linuxwow chroot is a little confusing lol11:56
intelikeyhehhe screen scrolled just at the right time.... :)11:56
kkathmanarkady:  forgot that kmplayer is needed rather than just mplayer :)11:56
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max__intelikey: i tried that and i got the same error11:57
intelikeyGenix|linux it is in a very basic way a vertual machine running in your system     a linux emulator running in linux if you will.    (not entirely accurate of course)11:57
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intelikeymax__ what did you set for default rezelution ?11:57
Genix|linuxso i just run this chroot and it will open a terminal emulating an i386 linux system?11:58
max__1024 by 7somthing11:58
Genix|linuxthen i dl wine and compile in this thing?11:58
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intelikeymax__ run it again with the switch -plow   appended    and on the monitor section don't choose the simple11:58
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max__i chose advanceed11:59
intelikeyok and you do know your refresh rate11:59
max__but i will try that, be right back11:59
max__no i do not11:59
intelikeythen how did you set it in the advanced settings ?11:59
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Genix|linuxintelikey is that right?12:00
max__it had all the settings already highlighted12:00
max__ill try again but not advanced, or simple12:00
max__brb12:00
intelikeyGenix|linux that is the basic idea.  the concept   but as you said it's more complex than that.12:01
Genix|linuxhmm12:01
Genix|linuxok12:01
Genix|linuxlet's hope i can figure this out12:01
Genix|linuxstill pretty much a linux n00b12:01
Genix|linuxheh12:01
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max__intelikey: framebuffer, yes or no?12:01
Riddelltopicdiff: koffice 1.6 released12:01
intelikeyno12:02
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josh_!xgl12:02
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:02
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intelikeyi may be substituting advanced for expert in the monitor setup options....    (hmmmmm)12:03
DaSkreech!koffice12:03
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kkathmanI kinda tried XGL for a while on SUSE, and the initial effects are "cool" but personally I felt it was a still a bit buggy to use everyday :)12:04
intelikeyare the listing "simple advanced expert" ?   if so max__ needs probably to use advanced12:04
max__they are like that12:04
intelikeyk then pick advanced12:04
max__ok,12:04
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max__framebuffer, yes or no?/12:04
intelikeyno12:05
kkathmanthats just my own personal experience with it...other may find it very helpful (the zoom feature is good for people that have failing eyesight, for instance)12:05
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intelikeyyeah i tried to install nvidia drivers here.... i couldn't get past the license...12:06
max__im sorry intelikey its simple, meduim, advanced12:06
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intelikeymeduim12:06
max__still the same error12:07
intelikeymax__ if you say advanced you will have to supply your horizonal sync and vertical refresh rates for your monitor.12:07
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max__i used medium12:07
intelikeymax__ what vidio card ?12:07
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max__im not sure, its an onboard video card12:08
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intelikeylshw12:08
otaku-sanhey lately when I'm going to upgrade these sources come up with an error deb.opera.com etch Release and  security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/(all of the Packs and Sources) and another one12:08
intelikeyor  lshw | less    so you can scroll up and down in it12:08
otaku-sanwhy?  Did the sources change?12:08
max__what is lshw?12:09
intelikeya command.12:09
max__type it in in a command?12:09
intelikeymax__ type   lshw | less12:09
max__ok, brb12:09
intelikeyand tell me what vidio card12:09

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