[12:14] <bojan> and i wish to fix'em
[12:14] <mutlu_inek> bojan: go to #Ubuntu+1
[12:15] <bojan> ok
[12:15] <khirr> guy
[12:15] <khirr> how can i install
[12:15] <khirr> JAVA VIRTUAL MACHINE}?
[12:15] <bojan> but i am not suing edgy
[12:15] <mutlu_inek> lol
[12:16] <khirr> ;S
[12:16] <khirr> why?
[12:16] <bojan> using*
[12:16] <khirr> ?
[12:16] <khirr> i've installed JRE
[12:16] <khirr> but, i need JVM
[12:16] <khirr> :S
[12:16] <goldphish> is there a way to make kubuntu stop asking for admin password without loggin in as root?
[12:17] <Hawkwind> goldphish: sudo -i is one way
[12:17] <Hawkwind> goldphish: You can also setup sudo to not ask for a password at all
[12:17] <T3hWiz0rd> !ati
[12:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:17] <khirr> pls
[12:17] <khirr> how can i install JVM?
[12:17] <Manyfold> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:17] <Manyfold> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[12:17] <Manyfold> no
[12:17] <Manyfold> checking for rpath... yes
[12:17] <Manyfold> *** Exited with status: 1 ***
[12:18] <Hawkwind> khirr: Patience.  When/If someone knows they will help you. No need to constantly repeat yourself
[12:18] <Hawkwind> !paste > Manyfold
[12:18] <Tm_T> !java > khirr
[12:18] <Hawkwind> Manyfold: Please use pastebin
[12:18] <khirr> ok
[12:18] <Hawkwind> Tm_T: He doesn't want java for a browser
[12:18] <Manyfold> yes
[12:18] <goldphish> Hawkwind, i think im a little off
[12:18] <Tm_T> Hawkwind: I see
[12:18] <goldphish> like if i go to system settings, i dont want it to ask for the password to do certain things
[12:19] <Tm_T> Anyway, I'm going to sleep, good night you all. ->
[12:20] <goldphish> so  its not really a sudo thing
[12:20] <Manyfold> http://rafb.net/paste/results/qxnfPh76.html <- autoconf gave me this what to do?
[12:20] <goldphish> possibly a kdesudo thing i dunno
[12:20] <Hawkwind> goldphish: If you setup sudo to never ask for a password, it won't do it in systemsettings either
[12:20] <goldphish> oh ok
[12:20] <Hawkwind> goldphish: I've got mine setup to never ask for a password
[12:20] <wildchild> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[12:20] <wildchild>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[12:20] <Manyfold> i am trying to build a simple kde application
[12:20] <wildchild> :S
[12:20] <Hawkwind> goldphish: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=148.0  <~~Read the bottom. It has a part for Kubuntu sudo setup
[12:21] <Manyfold> or isn't kubuntu suiteble for development?
[12:21] <mutlu_inek> Manyfold: you have to install the kde development packages
[12:22] <Manyfold> mutlu_inek: what is the name of the .deb?
[12:22] <gybot> anyone knows how i can set up my router on kubuntu? i called the linksys people and they said they have no i dea on how to help me because i use linux
[12:22] <Hawkwind> Manyfold: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:22] <xavier> y does kubuntu run fsck everrry time it reboots for all my fat32 drives .. and doesnt fix any of them? whts the point? anyway .. how do i run fsck manually and correct the errors? it says they are mounted
[12:22] <Hawkwind> gybot: What do you mean by 'setup your router on Kubuntu'  ??
[12:22] <wildchild> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. Please help
[12:22] <mutlu_inek> Manyfold: kde-devel
[12:23] <Manyfold> Hawkwind: build-essentials are already installed
[12:23] <Hawkwind> wildchild: You have to use the 32bit version.  Flash isn't made for 64Bit
[12:23] <Hawkwind> Manyfold: So install the kde headers
[12:23] <mutlu_inek> Manyfold: but that would install all kde dev packages
[12:23] <wildchild> Hawkwind: so konqueror is ussless ?
[12:23] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Who said that ?
[12:23] <wildchild> for streaming..
[12:23] <Hawkwind> wildchild: As I stated, use the 32bit version of flash
[12:24] <gybot> i'm now directly connected to my MODEM, everytime i plug in the the router none of my computers can access the internet
[12:24] <wildchild> Hawkwind: but I am using 64bit linux..
[12:24] <Hawkwind> gybot: Then you need to reconfigure Kubuntu to use the router as the gateway instead of the modem
[12:24] <mutlu_inek> wildchild: the 64bit version won't work
[12:24] <Hawkwind> wildchild: You still have to use the 32bit version of flash.  You can 32bit apps on a 64bit OS
[12:25] <Hawkwind> There is no 64bit flash package
[12:25] <wildchild> I download it manually..
[12:25] <gybot> Hawkwind: anyway you can help me do that? :-)
[12:25] <wildchild> I don't even know there are flash packages...
[12:25] <Hawkwind> gybot: Easiest way is to hook up the router, boot Kubuntu, then go to systemsettings and then into the network setup.  It should detect it all for you
[12:26] <Hawkwind> !flash > wildchild
[12:26] <gybot> ok
[12:26] <gybot> loosing connection..... brb
[12:30] <Manyfold> it worked thank you
[12:31] <mutlu_inek> Manyfold: good to hear
[12:36] <craftycorner> hello?
[12:36] <wildchild> !gnash
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <craftycorner> was wondering if u could lend a hand.  I lost a program lol
[12:37] <wildchild> Hawkwind I followed the link u entered, but there aren't any instructions how to install gnash flash
[12:38] <T3hWiz0rd> !katapult
[12:38] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[12:38] <craftycorner> I don't think it's risky, it's just a video capture program
[12:39] <wildchild> Hawkwind: never mind
[12:41] <mustech> is there a channel for xgl on kubuntu discussion
[12:42] <Hawkwind> mustech: #Ubuntu-XGL
[12:43] <gemidjy> hrm...where do I configure sound and other hardware comps. in Kubuntu Edgy ?, the Control Center (systemsettings) seems so minimalistic...
[12:44] <gemidjy> and I get  acpi-support depends on acpid (>= 1.0.4-1ubuntu4); however:
[12:44] <Chani> my friend just tried to stick an sd card in my laptop, and dmesg has some message about a new pcmcia thingy, but there was no magical mounting... I'm not really sure what might be wrong. does sd card stuff require extra software opr drivers usually?
[12:44] <gemidjy> Chani: no, just I can't find way to configure it
[12:49] <kolin> anyone here?
[12:49] <BluDog_Anchorite> nope
[12:50] <chrisX`> what is the differnce between 2.4 and 2.6 kernels
[12:50] <kolin> i was wondering something.  does kubuntu come with any type of icon editing program or anything
[12:50] <Chani> 2.4 is ooold
[12:50] <kolin> like i want to turn my blue trash into a grey trash
[12:50] <Chani> also, iirc 2.4 needs scsi emulation for cd burners
[12:50] <kolin> pretty trivial i know:)
[12:51] <BluDog_Anchorite> no idea
[12:51] <kolin> cause icons are just pictures aren't they/
[12:52] <T3hWiz0rd> t3hwiz0rd-server: rawr! stupid thing
[12:54] <bLaZeD> can anyone watch videos on here http://www.yikers.com/index.html ??..i cant get videos to work for the life of me...im starting to think its a linux thing
[12:55] <Skrot-> Hi. How can I tell alsa to use a specific sound card in kubuntu? I've got two.
[12:57] <osiris> bLaZeD, plays fine here
[12:57] <bLaZeD> huh
[12:58] <bLaZeD> what are u using to playy it?..fireofx and what plugin?
[12:58] <osiris> you have mozilla-mplayer
[12:58] <bLaZeD> hmm
[12:58] <bLaZeD> let me see
[12:58] <osiris> apt-cache search mplayer | grep mplayer
[12:59] <bLaZeD> osiris, yea i have it installed
[12:59] <BluDog_Anchorite> bLaZeD: (osiris here) thats what im using
[01:00] <BluDog_Anchorite> you mgiht need the win32codecs, but that should be it
[01:01] <steveire> bLaZeD: Can you play wmv on your harddrive?
[01:02] <bLaZeD> hmm i have win32codecs.....and i have the mozilla-mplayer installed
[01:02] <bLaZeD> steveire, yea i can
[01:02] <steveire> does about:plugins in firefox give anything?
[01:02] <bLaZeD> did u guys change any options in the mplayer plugin...
[01:03] <BluDog_Anchorite> nope
[01:03] <mutlu_inek> actually, I cannot play these either. and i have mplayer, mozilla-mplayer and w32-codecs installed, too
[01:03] <bLaZeD> mutlu_inek, ahh so im not alone ;)
[01:04] <mutlu_inek> sadly not ;)
[01:04] <bLaZeD> it starts to try and stream the video...then it just stops
[01:04] <bLaZeD> ....like i see it connect and try to buffer it...but then nodda
[01:04] <mutlu_inek> ^^ my player does not even load
[01:05] <steveire> bLaZeD: Try another video. And let it buffer 100%
[01:06] <bLaZeD> steveire, ive trid several vids..and i do let it go...i let it do its own thing till it says stopped and sits there
[01:09] <zen2_> anyone able to help
[01:09] <mutlu_inek> i just realized that firefox does not show mozilla-mplayer in about:plugins any more. reinstalling does not help. any idea?
[01:13] <mutlu_inek> the plugin just does not get registered in ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat
[01:13] <mutlu_inek> what do you entries look like? i could add them manually
[01:13] <stanleyds> ah. sent me here automatically
[01:13] <stanleyds> hello, everyone
[01:14] <stanleyds> let me get straight to the slaughter.... i wanna install the latest (stable) version of firefox. how?
[01:15] <cpk2> hmm i can see someone sent me a message but my buffer for the channel wasnt long enough =P
[01:16] <bLaZeD> mutlu_inek, here is my http://pastebin.ulteo.us/166
[01:16] <bLaZeD> *mine
[01:16] <stanleyds> umm.... did i come to the wrong channel?
[01:16] <bLaZeD> stanleyds, are u using kubuntu linux?
[01:16] <stanleyds> yeah
[01:17] <bLaZeD> then yes u are in the right place :)
[01:17] <stanleyds> oh.
[01:17] <bLaZeD> stanleyds, sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:17] <bLaZeD> wil install firefox
[01:18] <stanleyds> okay. lemme give that a go.... brb
[01:20] <sledge> Do the (k)ubuntu-kernel patches add drivers or interfaces that are necessary for the system to complete the boot phase?
[01:28] <jackrazz> Hey everyone, I'm trying kubuntu for the first time and have some version type questions.
[01:28] <stanleyds> cooool. works like a charm. thanks..... for part one.
[01:28] <jackrazz> First, I'm creating a usb stick that currently boots ubuntu server
[01:28] <jackrazz> I now need to uses aptitude to install kubuntu
[01:28] <jackrazz> there appears to be a minimal kubuntu and kubuntu-desktop available
[01:28] <jackrazz> does anyone know the differences?
[01:28] <jackrazz> I'm limited to 1 GB, so I don't want to go over.
[01:28] <steveire> what is the minimal version called?
[01:28] <jackrazz> don't remember, sorry I didn't write it down
[01:28] <steveire> Also, look into puppylinux or damnsmall linux
[01:28] <age1172> it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26932/
[01:28] <steveire> well, jackrazz when you see it again, type aptitude show kubuntu-minimal or whatever
[01:28] <jackrazz> Not interested in puppy or other.  I want a full apt-get style install
[01:28] <jackrazz> ok, stevire, thanks
[01:28] <jackrazz> Wasn't there a seperate new kde desktop that was just released into the repositories for upgrading kubuntu
[01:28] <steveire> damn small linux is based on debian, which means apt-get style.
[01:28] <steveire> it has good community support too
[01:28] <jackrazz> 3.51 or whatever the latest is
[01:28] <steveire> 3.5.5? Dunno. I think I'm using it on edgy.
[01:28] <jackrazz> So I could install dsl and get synaptic to do whatever I want?
[01:28] <steveire> I don't know if it comes with synaptic. I assume it has at least aptitude.
[01:28] <jackrazz> I know what you mean, I'm in ubuntu edgy right now
[01:28] <steveire> Have a google. I'm afraid I haven't actually used it.
[01:28] <jackrazz> ok, steveire, thanks for the help
[01:32] <stanleyds> okaaay. part two: i wanna get some video up & runnin, so i wanna get me some codecs. should i use this libxine-extracodecs package thingy or do i have better options?
[01:35] <cpk2> stanleyds: you might have other options but I think libxine is probably the best
[01:35] <Skrot-> !codec
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <stanleyds> okay, i'll give libxine a shot first, then try that page. thx cpk & ubotu
[01:36] <bLaZeD> !restriced
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restriced - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <bLaZeD> !restricted
[01:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:37] <bLaZeD> Skrot-, ^^
[01:37] <cpk2> stanleyds: libxine will give you almost everything
[01:37] <cpk2> stanleyds: except i think windows media, which is also really easy to get
[01:37] <Skrot-> bLaZeD: Yes. Thanks. I asked ubotu in privmsg. Problem is; I can't seem to "force" amarok to use alsa.. it only wants to use OSS, which is sort of odd
[01:38] <bLaZeD> Skrot-, hmm sorry i cant realy help ya with amarok...as i dont use that as my media player...allthough amarok is preety slick
[01:39] <bLaZeD> Skrot-, is it JUST amaroknot givin sound....or is it everything
[01:40] <Skrot-> bLaZeD: mplayer -ao alsa works
[01:44] <age1172> that is xgl.desktop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26939/
[01:44] <Skrot-> bLaZeD: Got it working
[01:44] <bLaZeD> Skrot-, ahh goo deal
[01:45] <bLaZeD> *good deal
[01:45] <Skrot-> aye
[01:45] <smarques> oi
[01:46] <smarques> alguem aqui???
[01:47] <unix_infidel> smarques: #ubuntu-es
[01:47] <unix_infidel> !ubuntu-es
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <unix_infidel> !#ubuntu-es
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <Hawkwind> !es
[01:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:49] <nzk> When is edgy coming out
[01:49] <unix_infidel> actually, that's brazillian.
[01:49] <unix_infidel> i shouldlve known better :)
[01:49] <unix_infidel> haha.
[01:50] <Hawkwind> !schedule > nzk
[01:51] <nzk> So how do I upgrade to edgy?
[01:52] <stanleyds> i'm havin trouble enabling the multiverse repository
[01:53] <stanleyds> i added multiverse to the universe repository line like the instrucs @kubuntu.org said, but that didn't work... even after i opened & closed adept again
[01:53] <cpk2> how did it not work?
[01:53] <cpk2> !work
[01:53] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:53] <cpk2> i love that line =P
[01:56] <main> Hi all
[01:56] <stanleyds> okaay... umm... in adept i went to view > manage repositories  and from there i added the word multiverse to the line that has the universe component, just as instructed. after doing that, clicking apply, then closing & re-opening adept, i found that libxine-extracodecs was still not in the list of packages
[01:57] <mutlu_inek> you have to fetch updates
[01:57] <Hawkwind> stanleyds: View your /etc/apt/sources.list and see if multiverse is there.  If it is, then do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs from the terminal
[01:59] <BluesKaj> stanleyds:  you need to add a non free repos, check this out http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:00] <morbius> hello
[02:02] <soulrider> hi
[02:02] <soulrider> i just insert a DVD i had burned a long time ago on widnows
[02:02] <soulrider> but i cant read it =/
[02:03] <BluesKaj> !dvd
[02:03] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:05] <mutlu_inek> !edgy
[02:06] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:06] <soul_rider> damn, i gto dsiconnected
[02:06] <soul_rider> any ideas ofr my problem ?
[02:07] <soulrider> any ideas of why i cant read that DVD ?
[02:07] <manuel_> i need help with fire fox
[02:07] <soulrider> manuel_:  whats wrong
[02:08] <manuel_> i dont know how to install
[02:08] <soulrider> did you enable the universe amd multiverse repositories ?
[02:08] <BluesKaj> soulrider: you need the Libdvdcss at http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[02:09] <BluesKaj> and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:09] <soulrider> its not a movie
[02:09] <soulrider> its just data
[02:09] <BluesKaj> now he tells us
[02:09] <manuel_> iam new in linux i dont what is that
[02:10] <soulrider> i said a DVD, not a movie dVD
[02:10] <soulrider> manuel
[02:10] <soulrider> go to your kmenu
[02:10] <soulrider> and then add/remove programs
[02:11] <manuel_> and then what
[02:11] <soulrider> ok
[02:11] <soulrider> on the top right corner you will see two checkboxes
[02:11] <soulrider> enable them
[02:11] <BluesKaj> soulrider: when someone mentions DVD it's sorta understood that it's video
[02:12] <soulrider> well, i meant data :P sorry bout that
[02:12] <manuel_> ok thankyou soiurrider
[02:12] <soulrider> you found it ?
[02:13] <rawrness> anyone know how to play with vmplayer?
[02:13] <mutlu_inek> ? play ?
[02:14] <manuel_> did you cantell me where can istar to learn kubuntu
[02:14] <rawrness> perhaps not play
[02:14] <mutlu_inek> what do you need to know?
[02:14] <soulrider> manuel, espaol _
[02:14] <soulrider> ?
[02:14] <manuel_> everythink
[02:14] <rawrness> just plain use.
[02:14] <method|> is there a way to do multiperson chatting in kopete (aim protocol)?
[02:17] <manuel_> tu sabes espanol
[02:17] <BluesKaj> method|: have you tried aMSN?
[02:17] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:18] <method|> manuel_: nope
[02:21] <stanleyds> part three: video plays... audio&video seem to stay in sync but it plays a bit choppy when it plays anime (choppy enough to be annoying). playing in kaffeine. media player problem or video drivers problem?
[02:21] <soulrider> manuel, podemos hablar espanol pero por private message
[02:21] <soulrider> oops, he left :P
[02:23] <method|> gaim supports multiperson chatting
[02:23] <method|> if anyone cared
[02:23] <method|> lol
[02:23] <BluesKaj> so does irc
[02:24] <method|> this is true
[02:24] <method|> <--didn't want to explain to someone how to use irc
[02:24] <BluesKaj> as does aMSN
[02:43] <jbrouhard> Okay
[02:43] <jbrouhard> I'm trying to get Wireless to work on my Dell Inspiron 5150.
[02:44] <jbrouhard> it's an internal wireless, so.. why does it get picked up[
[02:44] <jbrouhard> but it won't enable ?
[02:44] <snook353> does anyone have streamtuner or kstreamripper?
[02:45] <snook353> i want to know how to get streamripper via streamtuner to use the kstreamripper gui
[02:46] <thompa> anyone using ktorrent, I have a basic question?
[02:46] <snook353> thompa, i do
[02:46] <BluesKaj> snook353: I have it but havent tried your idea
[02:46] <BluesKaj> yes thompa ...what's yer question
[02:46] <thompa> snook353: hi, i have some video i partially downloaded and when i play it it makes a loud noise every few secs
[02:47] <orient2000> maybe is is wireless simulator like winmodem :(
[02:47] <snook353> ok.  can you give to me preferences line - the original command?  i erased mine, blueskaj
[02:47] <thompa> im wondering if its because its incomplete or bad file or
[02:47] <BluesKaj> wait til it's totally DL'd
[02:47] <snook353> i wouldn't think that would have to much to do with ktorrent, thompa
[02:47] <thompa> snook353: i know
[02:48] <snook353> i have probs too, with audio/vid sync, sometimes, thompa
[02:48] <thompa> snook353:  thats what i had on one too
[02:48] <snook353> yeah...i'm waitin for mplayer pre8 to be deb'ed
[02:48] <BluesKaj> you should wait til you have the whole file before trying to play it
[02:49] <snook353> yeah, thompa
[02:49] <jbrouhard> Okay.. anyone help me with a kubuntu wireless issue ?? :(
[02:49] <thompa> BluesKaj: ok, its an mpg on computer history I need
[02:49] <thompa> i was wondering if its because its protected it makes that noise
[02:50] <BluesKaj> no, if just a partially DL'd file it won't play properly
[02:50] <thompa> thanks
[02:50] <snook353> blueskaj, i need to command that's somethin like x-terminal etc... in the preferences gui
[02:51] <thompa> edgy kubuntu working great as of todays update btw
[02:52] <BluesKaj> snook353: which mode in preferences?
[02:53] <snook353> edit-preferences-applications-record a stream
[02:53] <snook353> blueskaj
[02:53] <mutlu_inek> thompa: good to hear, i am just upgrading
[02:55] <BluesKaj> snook353:  x-terminal-emulator -e streamripper %q
[02:55] <snook353> thanks, blueskaj!  life-saver! :P
[02:55] <BluesKaj> NP :)
[02:57] <thompa> mutlu_inek: yep, it was a little unstable for a while
[02:58] <thompa> mutlu_inek: i mean my graphics were slow, now its really snappy
[02:59] <thompa> kmenu looks real nice now
[02:59] <stanleyds> okay, video plays (i'm playin xvid files)... audio&video seem to stay in sync but it plays a bit choppy when it plays anime (choppy enough to be annoying). played in both kaffeine and vlc. media player problem or video drivers problem?
[03:00] <bmo> anime _is_ choppy.
[03:00] <mutlu_inek> :)
[03:00] <thompa> lol
[03:00] <stanleyds> lol :P
[03:00] <bmo> :-P
[03:00] <thompa> stanleyds: did you do everything on restricted formats page
[03:00] <stanleyds> eh? restricted formats page?
[03:01] <thompa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:01] <reinaldo> alguem pode me ajudar????????
[03:01] <thompa> stanleyds: i would do all the stuff here , takes about 10 minutes
[03:01] <mutlu_inek> !es
[03:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:02] <stanleyds> hmmm... gotcha
[03:02] <thompa> stanleyds: lots of folks miss something
[03:02] <thompa> then if it dont work its another problem
[03:04] <reinaldo> alguem fala portugus????????
[03:04] <BluesKaj> !pt
[03:04] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:05] <slop2> is there a way to set up a key combination to bring up the k menu?
[03:06] <reinaldo> #ubuntu-br
[03:09] <CaBlGuY> !konverter
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <archangel_> How can I get my ipod working with linux?
[03:11] <mutlu_inek> install amarok and plug it in
[03:11] <archangel_> hmmm
[03:11] <archangel_> k
[03:12] <ccherrett> I am trying to install linuxsampler from source but the make -f Makefile.cvs tells me: make: aclocal: Command not found
[03:13] <ccherrett> I can fine aclocal with adept
[03:13] <stanleyds> ooookay. went to restricted formats page. one of the things i gotta install is w32codecs. i downloaded the .deb file via wget and used the sudo dpkg command and got the message "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"
[03:14] <mutlu_inek> close adept
[03:14] <stanleyds> ...me?
[03:14] <mutlu_inek> you can only have one apt program running
[03:14] <mutlu_inek> yes
[03:14] <stanleyds> ah. oh.
[03:14] <stanleyds> ohhhhh.
[03:14] <stanleyds> thx ^__^
[03:15] <CaBlGuY> we got Konverter on the devs?
[03:15] <slop2> is there a way to remove the main panel altogether?
[03:16] <ccherrett> I figured it out. It was in the automake package
[03:17] <CaBlGuY> slop2:  main panel, as in the....
[03:18] <slop2> the panel
[03:18] <slop2> CaBlGuY, with the k menu and all that
[03:18] <slop2> CaBlGuY, i want to remove it completely
[03:18] <slop2> CaBlGuY, but 'remove panel' is grayed out
[03:18] <CaBlGuY> Ohhh   U mean the taskbar..
[03:18] <slop2> yeah
[03:18] <slop2> i need it gone :D
[03:19] <slop2> i can hide it and all that, but i'd really like to just remove it
[03:19] <slop2> or make it permanently invisible
[03:19] <CaBlGuY> well, all you gotta do is right click on the bar itself and select options..  and do it there..
[03:19] <CaBlGuY> should be able to or..
[03:19] <TFrog> those interested in how to get Frostwire/Limewire working with Edgy Eft, i've posted a "How To" on both ubuntu and kubuntu forums
[03:19] <slop2> CaBlGuY, yeah...but 'Remove Panel' is grayed out
[03:19] <ccherrett> I am getting this error when trying to create my configure file: aclocal: configure.in: 231: macro `AM_PATH_ARTS' not found in library
[03:20] <archangel_> I plug my ipod in and kubuntu knows its name and everything......sweet
[03:20] <ccherrett> I assume it means that it cannot find arts. The reason I say that is I had a simmilar error for libtools abd installing libtools solved it.
[03:20] <CaBlGuY> you can use the hide automaticaly option.
[03:21] <ccherrett> now when I install arts it says it is the newest version
[03:21] <slop2> CaBlGuY, but then it comes up when you hit the edge of a screen...this computer is for my 4 year old...she doesn't need any panel for anything
[03:21] <slop2> if its not possible, i can live with it...i'd just really like to get rid of it
[03:22] <CaBlGuY> welthen, you should start to teach her about paNEL,S then.. she's old enough..
[03:22] <CaBlGuY> :)
[03:22] <slop2> haha
[03:22] <slop2> trust me, i can't wait :)
[03:22] <Zaire> anyone in here know a good easily understood by dumb@$$'s help for setting up mysql-server?
[03:22] <CaBlGuY> U know u can lock em..
[03:22] <CaBlGuY> OR..
[03:22] <CaBlGuY> you can make a new account just for her.. and she won't b able to do squat..
[03:23] <archangel_> Hey a dialog box popped up and it says mounting device. It is stuck at 0%.  why?
[03:23] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[03:23] <slop2> yeah...i just made it only 4 percent wide, and i have a window list applet...plus its hidden
[03:23] <archangel_> ipod says do not disconnect
[03:23] <slop2> CaBlGuY, already made her an account....i just wanted to get rid of the panel, but i guess it has one use, in case i need to find a lost window or something for her
[03:23] <ccherrett> Zaire: make sure that the permissions are set exactly like the mysql doc says in the install ation instructions
[03:24] <slop2> cool...this computer is 4yo friendly  :)
[03:24] <CaBlGuY> slop2: yep..   no biggy..  don't sress over the small stuff..
[03:24] <slop2> see ya!
[03:24] <ccherrett> then make sure you have your tmp dir set in my.cnf
[03:24] <CaBlGuY> :p
[03:24] <word> hmmm..where in the settings can i see information on what's plugged into my serial port?
[03:24] <ccherrett> that usually does it
[03:25] <Zaire> hmmm Im trying to setup a phpbb forum but I have yet to get the mysql DB to work with it
[03:25] <CaBlGuY> word:  open your home dir.   and on the left there's a little red flag..  click it and that'll show ya all the servcices ya got runnin..
[03:26] <slop> CaBlGuY, one more thing...
[03:26] <Zaire> cept Im running a plain cli server
[03:26] <slop> how do i make it so she can't right-click desktop icons?
[03:26] <ccherrett> how do I determine what package is the development packages for arts?
[03:27] <Zaire> Im also using putty to do all my setup
[03:27] <CaBlGuY> slop:  hmmmmm    configur desktop..   and click behavior, general, and right button @ the bottom
[03:28] <slop> CaBlGuY, already did that....thats for right clicking the desktop...you can still right click icons though
[03:29] <CaBlGuY> that's only thing I know to do with the right click slop saawwreee...
[03:29] <slop> CaBlGuY, np, thanks :)0
[03:30] <CaBlGuY> I'm sure there's a mouse configur dealy in the control center somewhere more then likely..
[03:30] <CaBlGuY> word:  you get that last message?
[03:35] <CaBlGuY> k im out..
[03:36] <archangel_> does my ipod have to mount first?
[03:37] <archangel_> casue its hang'n at 0%
[03:37] <archangel_> cause*
[03:38] <tacomantim> has anyone here used freemind?
[03:41] <archangel_> ipod help
[03:54] <BigIron> Hello I need a font viewer.
[03:58] <ccherrett> how can I upgrade my install of automake from 1.4 to 1.5 with apt?
[03:59] <ccherrett> is it possible?
[04:02] <stanleyds> hmmm... installed all that stuff... and tried it in mplayer along with the others.... no luck
[04:02] <stanleyds> video drivers maybe?
[04:02] <stanleyds> i have a nvidia geforce mx 4000
[04:03] <stanleyds> ahhhh, bump it. the wire is on
[04:03] <archangel_> anybody have a ipod working with linux?
[04:04] <mando> hello
[04:04] <mando> where can i update the source.list ?
[04:05] <archangel_> my ipod is recognized, but wont mount
[04:05] <pierreth_> Does someone knows Gnucash here?
[04:06] <mando> #eglug
[04:06] <mando> ops
[04:06] <mando> sorry
[04:06] <nzk> No burning to cd, installing, rebooting, NOTHING like that?
[04:07] <mando> how can i update adept please
[04:09] <mando> hmm no one here it seems
[04:10] <mando> time for intensive googling
[04:12] <Zaire> can someone please send me a link on how to setup mysqly-server
[04:15] <unix_infidel> Zaire: the mysql website has plenty of good docs.
[04:16] <mando> i need to update my adept repositories.. there was this website that generates the source.list file
[04:17] <suifur> mando: google source-o-matic
[04:17] <mando> yeah thats the one
[04:17] <mando> thank you :D
[04:20] <mando> and where was the source.list again ? *shy face*
[04:20] <jbrouhard> it's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:20] <mando> thanks
[04:24] <digivore> !version
[04:24] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[04:25] <digivore> !dapper
[04:25] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[04:25] <digivore> dapper is still the latest?
[04:25] <unix_infidel> latest stable yes.
[04:26] <digivore> if i change my PATH items, do i have to start a new session before the paths will be set?
[04:27] <Init5_> can someone help me around EasyUbuntu, they seem not to be active on #easyubuntu
[04:27] <unix_infidel> digivore: depends on how you setup path?
[04:28] <digivore> /etc/environment
[04:28] <unix_infidel> digivore: for the system?
[04:28] <pierreth_> I am not am to enter -1000 in gnucash
[04:28] <unix_infidel> or for the user, that really makes no sense.
[04:28] <unix_infidel> either way.
[04:29] <pierreth_> i can enter -900, it is OK
[04:29] <digivore> unix_infidel, what is the proper way?
[04:29] <unix_infidel> !path
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <mando> this can sound silly lol.. but are there any good games for linux?
[04:30] <Jucato> !games
[04:30] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[04:30] <mando> that bot just knows everything :D
[04:30] <Jucato> almost :)
[04:31] <jbrouhard> Okay
[04:31] <jbrouhard> anyone know why the ndiswrapper isn't available in edgy ?
[04:32] <Jucato> jbrouhard, if it isn't, you could probably try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:33] <otaku-san> Hey!  When did KDE have it's tenth?  Today?
[04:33] <Jucato> otaku-san, Oct 14
[04:33] <otaku-san> Jucato: ahhhh Yesterday....to me
[04:34] <otaku-san> Jucato: hey what's up?
[04:34] <Jucato> otaku-san, 2 days ago for me :)
[04:34] <Jucato> what's up? hm... not much :)
[04:34] <otaku-san> hahaha...to much for me....you seen Hawkwind lately?
[04:35] <Jucato> not really. I haven't been online much for the past week
[04:37] <otaku-san> Jucato: Yeah...I was last on a few days ago....you heard about Debian creating new web browser over the Mozilla Suite one and Firefox?
[04:38] <Jucato> Iceweasel :)
[04:39] <otaku-san> Hahahahah!  Ya!
[04:39] <otaku-san> ....hope Ubuntu isn't affected
[04:39] <otaku-san> I'm a bit attached to my Firefox
[04:40] <Jucato> well, there will still be the option to use the source code directly from MozCo if ever that happens
[04:40] <otaku-san> might try em' tho....seems the only difference is just not using features that allow non-free stuff
[04:41] <otaku-san> MozCo....heard about that the other day...what is it?  I thought it was for cell phones...for some reasons
[04:41] <Jucato> I think they also did a bit more (added/removed features, security stuff...)
[04:41] <Jucato> MozCo = Mozilla Corporation
[04:41] <otaku-san> Hahahah duh!
[04:41] <otaku-san> *slaps forehead*
[04:42] <Jucato> :P
[04:42] <otaku-san> Have you used IceWeasel...or GnuZilla yet?
[04:42] <Jucato> nope. no reason to. I use Konqueror on Linux... but I haven't been on Linux for the past 7 days... *gasp*
[04:44] <Jucato> I'll probably give it a try though.
[04:44] <otaku-san> Jucato: Oh man!!!!  What were you doing?  Were you actually having a life?  ;)  Same here...why not try it...I use Opera...and some Mozilla...so why not IceWeasel?
[04:45] <otaku-san> Tho' IceWeasel sounds like it's meant for IceBox....
[04:46] <Jucato> heh
[04:46] <RadiantFire> it does doesn't it
[04:46] <RadiantFire> so entertaining
[04:46] <otaku-san> RadiantFire: when I heard about it...I was like....Debian?  Are they catering for IceBox?  hehehehe
[04:47] <bmo> "IceWeasel" sounds like a name coined by Pauly Shore
[04:47] <otaku-san> I still crack up at the name though....IceWeasel just does not hold the same umph like Firefox
[04:47] <otaku-san> Pauly Shore?
[04:48] <RadiantFire> otaku-san: more reason for the gnome folks to just go with epiphany
[04:48] <bmo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauly_Shore
[04:49] <RadiantFire> when i first heard they were looking for a rename Ii th ought they would name it something like "FlameWolf"
[04:49] <bmo> At his first Spring Break gig, he unleashed his catchphrase, "weasel," on the world.
[04:49] <RadiantFire> apparently they decided to go the full opposite way
[04:49] <otaku-san> RadiantFire: I installed Gnome...and for some reason all of the Gnome apps...are on my KDE side....I think it's because I'm using GDM...instead of KDM...
[04:50] <otaku-san> RadiantFire: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/  (This explains the name orgins)
[04:50] <Jucato> otaku-san, what do you mean "on my KDE side"?
[04:50] <RadiantFire> maybe
[04:51] <RadiantFire> so I am very happy because bcm43xx works with my wireless card, I'm not so happy because its so insanely slow
[04:51] <bmo> jeez, he dated kylie minogue?!
[04:51] <otaku-san> Jucato: I mean when I use KDE....I have several different WM installed...so I say their all sides
[04:52] <RadiantFire> go him...
[04:52] <otaku-san> Jucato: if I use Gnome...I would say my Gnome side....
[04:53] <Jucato> otaku-san, yes I understand that. I was asking what you meant by the GNOME apps being on your KDE side? They are supposed to be seen both in GNOME and KDE
[04:53] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good evening
[04:53] <Jucato> Hawkwind, hi! :)
[04:53] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Nope, noone has seen Hawkwind lately :P
[04:53] <Jucato> lol
[04:54] <Jucato> Hawkwind, I'm confined to 2-3 more days of no Linux... :(
[04:54] <Hawkwind> Ohhh, no power supply yet ?
[04:54] <otaku-san> Jucato:  They are???  So all of the things meant for Gnome can be seen in KDE?  Like Epiphiny?
[04:54] <Jucato> and the worst part about using XP, is using XP on a system with only 258MB RAM...
[04:54] <Jucato> otaku-san, yes. and vice versa (KDE Apps should be visible in GNOME too).
[04:55] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: hehehe your so sly!  So do you have those icon sets up on your website?
[04:55] <Jucato> Hawkwind, the "technician" has a different "theory" as to what's wrong. And him not knowing much (or anything at all) about Linux (he calls it "lie-nux")...
[04:55] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: http://SeerOfSouls.net/gallery   They are there if you want to look at them.  They are uploaded individually though
[04:55] <Jucato> Hawkwind, he says that the "problem" is the "OS"
[04:56] <otaku-san> Jucato: makes sense now....when I installed Gnome...I saw all of the Gnome apps in my KMenu...and was like...why?
[04:56] <Homer> yeah one thing is many GNOME apps are better then their KDE counterparts and visa versa
[04:56] <Homer> so alot of people use both
[04:56] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hah.  Just go buy yourself a PSU and swap it out real quick.  Takes about 10 minutes
[04:57] <otaku-san> Homer: Ya...like Gimp!
[04:57] <Jucato> Hawkwind, I don't have enough hardware know-how to do that
[04:57] <Homer> yeah GIMP/Inkscape
[04:57] <Jucato> the GIMP... I missed playing with that little suckah! :)
[04:57] <otaku-san> Jucato: oh all things to reinstall in a box...the PSU is the simplist!
[04:57] <Hawkwind> Jucato: You don't need know how.  It's removing a couple of screws, pulling it out, putting the new one, replacing the screws
[04:57] <Jucato> ... and making sure that the connections are correct...
[04:58] <otaku-san> of* and simplest
[04:58] <otaku-san> Jucato: and you use Linux?
[04:58] <Homer> an qt-gtk toolkit makes both gnome and kde applications look ... exactly the same
[04:58] <Jucato> it might be the "simplest", but it's the scariest for me, because it's dealing with electricity
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Jucato: They are all labeled and only have one way they can go actually :)
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Jucato: LOL.  Make sure you unplug it completely :P
[04:58] <Blacken> Question. I've got a directory of files. I need to rename all of them to "foo###.bar", where ### is incremented for every file.
[04:58] <otaku-san> Homer: K14 for me on vector stuff
[04:58] <Blacken> Does anyone know of a way to do this? Shell-based, preferably (sshing)
[04:58] <Homer> I think inkscape is more featureful
[04:59] <Jucato> otaku-san, is Karbon now as usable as Inkscape?
[04:59] <Hawkwind> Blacken: The guys in #Bash could tell you real quick
[04:59] <Blacken> Hawkwind: Probably true.
[04:59] <max_> can anyone help me update to Edgy Eft?
[04:59] <otaku-san> Homer: ya....but the really sad layer thing at the bottom...erks me in Inkscape
[04:59] <Homer> I think you can customize all the toolbar and stuff
[04:59] <Jucato> otaku-san, layer thing at the bottom?
[05:00] <otaku-san> Jucato: They're about even....the layer controls for pictures...is a bit lacking
[05:00] <Jucato> Hawkwind, is it really possible that "the OS" can make your PC not power on at all? even if the hard disk is already disconnected?
[05:00] <Hawkwind> Blacken: This isn't correct for you, but it will get you close:
[05:00] <Hawkwind> Blacken: N=1 ;for X in $(find /misc/Icons5/ -name *.png ) ;do Q=`basename $X` ;N=$(( $N + 1 )) ;mv $X /misc/Icons-New17/$N$Q ;done
[05:00] <Blacken> Hawkwind: Hm, makes sense. Thanks.
[05:00] <Jucato> hm... maybe K14 1.6... last time I tried to use Karbon14, I gave up and used Inkscape instead
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Blacken: Probably just substitute directories and then change mv to cp or something
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Jucato: It's possible, but highly unlikely.  I'd check all connections in the box
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Jucato: If it's not powering on at all, then it's most likely the power supply
[05:01] <Jucato> Hawkwind, the box won't even power up if I remove all IDE connections...
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Then you can bet it's a power supply
[05:02] <Jucato> you know the weird part about it?
[05:02] <Jucato> it's working in his shop (internet/cyber cafe)
[05:02] <Hawkwind> At all times ?
[05:02] <Jucato> but not at home (mine and his)
[05:02] <Jucato> well, according to him
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Yeah, definitely a power supply then
[05:03] <Jucato> he says that he's going to monitor it for 2-3 days. if it works there, he's going to reformat my HD because it's probably "the OS" causing the problem
[05:03] <Jucato> but really, I find the reasoning a bit dubious... :(
[05:03] <Hawkwind> It's probably not completely dead. So moving it around makes it just right so it works.  Moving it again causes it to move around and not be *just right* so it won't work
[05:04] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I'd take it to someone else
[05:04] <Jucato> lol yeah
[05:04] <max_> hi, could anyone help me upgrade to edgy eft
[05:04] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Seriously....you could really change it yourself.  You can't go wrong
[05:04] <Jucato> max_, you really need to upgrade right now?
[05:04] <Hawkwind> max_: You do know it's not final nor stable yet ?
[05:04] <max_> yes
[05:04] <Hawkwind> max_: It still breaks on a daily basis
[05:04] <Jucato> Hawkwind, oh, you don't know how many times I've gone wrong :)
[05:05] <max_> yes i know
[05:05] <Hawkwind> max_: Talk to the guys in the Edgy channel, #Ubuntu+1
[05:05] <max_> and Hawkwind, thaks for the other day, what you said got p7zip workin
[05:05] <max_> thanks
[05:05] <otaku-san> max_: and good luck!
[05:05] <max_> thank you
[05:05] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I thought the same thing when it came to working on my PC the first time years back.  Now it's a piece of cake
[05:06] <otaku-san> I like to take apart my boxen once in alwhile for fun
[05:06] <Hawkwind> Jucato: That's how I got my Texans/Dolphins tickets this year.  Helped my neighbor build a new box.  He went from a 350MHz PC to a 2.8GHz Pentium D dual core
[05:06] <otaku-san> *awhile
[05:06] <Jucato> Hawkwind, well, this wouild be my first time, and my only box. so I'm a bit nervous to do it on my own
[05:06] <Jucato> wow
[05:06] <Hawkwind> Jucato: What's funny about it is, I only went with him to the store to pick out the right parts.  He assembled everything.  Then I setup XP Pro and dual monitors.  Did nothing more
[05:07] <Jucato> well, I'm a bit familiar with changing/replacing RAM, hard disks and CD-ROM's, video cards, etc. not yet with power supplies
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Jucato: So he bought me the tickets for helping him get the right stuff and setup with XP Pro with a corporate key :)
[05:07] <Jucato> heh
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Jucato: If you can change those, then you can surely change a power supply.  It's so darn simple, seriously
[05:07] <otaku-san> *slaps self for sad attempt at boast*  Jucato...it's not that bad...it's always hard to start on fixing/making a box...it's all in your head
[05:07] <Jucato> seriously?
[05:07] <Jucato> hmm...
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I'm dead serious man
[05:08] <JimmyGreendog> The only trick is turning it off before you begin. :)
[05:08] <Hawkwind> Jucato: It's like verything else, it can really only go one way, and everything that gets hooked up is so simple.  It's just a matter of plugging in the power adapters from your drives
[05:08] <pierreth> Where can I have help about Gnucash?
[05:08] <otaku-san> OH, and make sure you touch a side of the metal case...so you don't fry stuff
[05:08] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Demand you want a new PSU, simple as that
[05:09] <Hawkwind> And don't wear socks if it's cold while working on the box :P
[05:09] <Jucato> hm.. that might take a few more days, though. oh well :)
[05:09] <Jucato> hm... cold... what's that? :)
[05:09] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: .....your a crazy man....all those icons...so much uploading!
[05:10] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Not sure.  The northern parts of the USA talk about it all the time.  Here in Houston we don't have *cold weather* :(
[05:10] <Jucato> it sucks that I don't know anyone around here who even knows about Linux... :(
[05:10] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: That's only half of my collection.  There's only 38,000+ icons there
[05:10] <Jucato> I mean, around my place
[05:10] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Time for you to make that change then :P
[05:10] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Setup a LUG
[05:10] <Hawkwind> Order 50 free CD's from shipit and teach them :)
[05:11] <Jucato> O_O
[05:11] <Jucato> big responsiblity, man... big responsibility
[05:11] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: o.0  Whoa....so how do I find out what icon set they are?
[05:11] <Jucato> besides, I'm definitely not a "people-type" person
[05:11] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Makes a lot of friends, then you have others in your area that know about linux :)
[05:11] <Jucato> and a whole bunch of people asking me questions that I can't answer... :(
[05:11] <otaku-san> Houston eh?  Hmmm familiar territory...grew up there
[05:12] <Jucato> specially hardware and networking stuff...
[05:12] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: These aren't icon sets like for KDE and such really.  They are just icons I've found on the net over 5 years
[05:12] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: I've lived here for 32 out of my 35 years of life unfortunately :(
[05:12] <Jucato> Hawkwind, have you made KDE 3.5.5 already available in SoS?
[05:12] <Hawkwind> Jucato: For Dapper ?
[05:12] <Jucato> or for Mandriva :P
[05:12] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: HAHAHAHA oh man...I feel for you...it's not that bad tho'....traffics a .....well a bad word
[05:13] <digivore> !xine
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <Hawkwind> I'm not that experienced at building debs quite yet and haven't had the 2 - 3 days to spare to build it for Mandriva
[05:13] <digivore> !xine-lib
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine-lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <Hawkwind> digivore: libxine-extracodecs maybe ?
[05:13] <notech> i'd do more than just touch the case when working in a box. use a grounding strap
[05:14] <Hawkwind> notech: You hold up a grounding rod too :P
[05:14] <notech> only in lightning :)
[05:15] <otaku-san> heard having the PSU on while it's in the box helps to ground it...or something
[05:15] <Jucato> a few days ago, my sister's unit (the one I'm using right now) was "grounded" so I had quite a shocking experience...
[05:16] <Jucato> that's why I'm not so keen on touching the PSU recently..
[05:16] <digivore> what do you do with a .deb file?
[05:16] <notech> sounds like it wasn't grounded
[05:16] <Jucato> but anyway, I just needed/wanted to confirm if Linux/Kubuntu/an OS can really do that to PC
[05:17] <otaku-san> Jucato: hehehe poor man...no wonder PSUs freak you out
[05:17] <linuxbomb> ground strap hahahahahha
[05:17] <digivore> what does it mean when a file is in red text in a directory listing ?
[05:17] <notech> if you want to chance frying parts, don't use one. your choice.
[05:17] <Jucato> I mean, if an OS could cause the system not to power up/on even if the hard disk isn't connected... @_@
[05:18] <notech> bad link is red
[05:18] <linuxbomb> Jucato: hell no
[05:18] <Jucato> digivore, a broken link afaik
[05:18] <linuxbomb> ok no freaking way unless it flashed the bios
[05:19] <Jucato> well, we did have several and abrupt power interruptions/fluctations before my box started fscking up. that's why I'm presuming it's a PSU issue
[05:19] <linuxbomb> if it has 12 and 5 and 3.3 volts and no sign of life then its the cpu / motherboard
[05:19] <notech> might need a better surge protector
[05:20] <Jucato> notech, might need a better voltage regulator or even a UPS... :(
[05:20] <Jucato> linuxbomb, um.. run that by me again, in plain English?
[05:20] <linuxbomb> if it has 12 and 5 and 3.3 volts and no sign of life then its the cpu / motherboard
[05:21] <linuxbomb> Jucato: ya got a voltmeter?
[05:21] <notech> i was getting power disruptions so bought a UPS and the power has only gone off once since
[05:21] <Jucato> notech, heheh
[05:21] <Jucato> linuxbomb, um nope?
[05:22] <linuxbomb> Jucato: then why are you trying to fix a computer?
[05:22] <Hawkwind> linuxbomb: He's not
[05:22] <notech> i'll bet it was a store bought pc, ready built. those usually have very small and cheap power supplies
[05:24] <Jucato> ??? :(
[05:24] <Jucato> notech, it wasn't bought ready built. this "technician" neighbor of mine bought it for me and assembled it
[05:25] <linuxbomb> What ya think of the pentium M dual core processors ?
[05:25] <notech> ah, i see. well i don't run any power supplies with less than 500 watts
[05:25] <Jucato> lol... this one is 300W only :)
[05:26] <notech> not enough in my opinion
[05:26] <linuxbomb> Jucato: what processor do you have?
[05:26] <Jucato> AMD Sempron 2200 (1.5 GHz)
[05:26] <linuxbomb> the processor might eat up 130 watts max
[05:27] <notech> might be able to just pull the power supply and take it to a local shop and have them test it
[05:27] <linuxbomb> notech: do you have a paper clip?
[05:28] <Jucato> AMD Sempron 2200 (1.5 Ghz), 2 pcs. 512MB DDR-RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX, 2 Hard disks, 1 CD Writer, 1 DVD-ROM <--- what I have connected
[05:28] <notech> for what?
[05:28] <linuxbomb> jumper the purple wire to the black wire on the power supply
[05:28] <linuxbomb> white to black sorry
[05:28] <Hawkwind> linuxbomb: It's not notech that has a faulty PSU
[05:28] <Hawkwind> LOL
[05:28] <Hawkwind> So you're telling the wrong person
[05:29] <linuxbomb> oops
[05:29] <Jucato> notech, yeah, probably. I just brought it to the guy who bought and assembled it for me first. but it seems that he's blaming "the OS"
[05:29] <notech> he's not wanting to do something he's not sure about. taking it in to be tested is easiest for him
[05:29] <Jucato> linuxbomb, I don't have the box with me right now... it's still with the "technician"
[05:29] <Jucato> this sucks... really... :(
[05:29] <linuxbomb> if you jumper those then the power supply should come on unless its dead , ie the fan will turn
[05:30] <King_Brad> how would i "start a new session in nested window" in kde? (or a diffrent nix disto)
[05:31] <Jucato> King_Brad, a new session in a nested window, you'd probably need something like Xnest or Xephyr (not sure which is better)
[05:31] <bmo> xnest
[05:31] <King_Brad> i c
[05:31] <Jucato> for a different *nix distro, you'd be better of with using VMWare
[05:31] <King_Brad> is that avail in kubuntu?
[05:31] <bmo> it's available for all computers that use x
[05:32] <Hawkwind> King_Brad: sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[05:32] <King_Brad> Jucato: i have opensuse on a server in my workshop that supports xdmcp and i would like to use a "nested window" login so i can admin it from my desk...
[05:32] <Jucato> I miss my PC... :(
[05:32] <King_Brad> thats why i ask :)
[05:32] <Jucato> King_Brad, ah that's a different case :)
[05:32] <King_Brad> :)
[05:32] <i\o> Adept says that another program is running so it can't.. but there isn't one.. how can I fix that?
[05:33] <King_Brad> no worries, i like kubuntu
[05:33] <King_Brad> just need opensuse for my thinserver :)
[05:33] <Jucato> i\o, type this in Konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:33] <i\o> Jucato, thanks!
[05:34] <Jucato> lol aseigo's dancing around :)
[05:35] <Jucato> it's during times like these that I wish some KDE apps were cross platform... :(
[05:36] <King_Brad> welp i got xnest installed.... but cant launch it from run command....
[05:36] <King_Brad> wts?
[05:36] <Jucato> King_Brad, I think you need some arguments to go with Xnest
[05:36] <King_Brad> ahhh
[05:36] <King_Brad> there we go
[05:37] <Jucato> not really sure how to do it.
[05:37] <King_Brad> Xnest is the run cmd
[05:37] <King_Brad> now to find out the switches
[05:38] <soundmaster80> i was just wondering if edgy is still on track to be released this month
[05:39] <Jucato> I think so, yes
[05:39] <soundmaster80> is there a timeline anywhere on it?
[05:39] <Jucato> !schedule
[05:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:39] <soundmaster80> i can't seem to find it on the site
[05:39] <Jucato> soundmaster80, ^^^^^^
[05:39] <King_Brad> wow
[05:40] <Blacken> That was the strangest thing I have seen in quite some time. I added a user to my machine...and /home got chmodded 700.
[05:40] <King_Brad> xdmcp really works
[05:40] <King_Brad> without any config'ing
[05:40] <soundmaster80> another thing
[05:40] <soundmaster80> does anyone in here use jinzora for music
[05:41] <Blacken> Okay, so user permissions are confusing me here. I need ~/public_html to be visible to all users (or at least to the apache user) but I don't want ~ visible to people. Can this be done without a kludge?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> never heard of it
[05:41] <Jucato> Blacken, just change the permission for ~/public_htm only?l
[05:42] <soundmaster80> well, i don't think it's the problem that i think about it...i have been trying to use the flash xspf player and it doesn't appear, however it is supposed to work with flash player 7
[05:43] <soundmaster80> i realize this isn't the place for it. i just wondered if anyone else has had issues with it
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Mark Shuttleworth Becomes the First Patron of KDE      http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/
[05:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:43] <Jucato> Dr_willis, yeah :)
[05:43] <Jucato> kool ain't it? :)
[05:43] <Dr_willis> well if i was a Multi-ba-zallionare....
[05:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:44] <King_Brad> what did he donate alot of $$$ to the kde foundation or somethin?
[05:44] <soundmaster80> it seems odd that gnome is the main desktop when the founder is more inclinded to use KDE
[05:45] <Jucato> soundmaster80, he started Ubuntu years ago. and he uses GNOME on his laptop (which he uses more than his desktop, which is KDE)
[05:45] <tehpwnz0r> u like kde or gnome better?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> King_Brad,  yea. hes now the first 'kde' patron. i guess that means he will be investing $$$ for some time.
[05:45] <soundmaster80> kde, no questions and hands down
[05:45] <King_Brad> i think gnome is a little better
[05:45] <King_Brad> for stability
[05:45] <tehpwnz0r> i like gnome better
[05:45] <King_Brad> kde looks better tho
[05:45] <tehpwnz0r> its less apple like
[05:45] <tehpwnz0r> its akward gui
[05:45] <soundmaster80> from my experience kde is much more customizeable
[05:45] <tehpwnz0r> i like gnome terminal
[05:46] <Dr_willis> I find using gnome to be like  having one arm tied down...
[05:46] <soundmaster80> exactly
[05:46] <Jucato> ok let's not get into too much -offtopic here :)
[05:46] <tehpwnz0r> how do i connect to other roms or servers,a dn how do i get the server list
[05:47] <soundmaster80> lol, yeah i didnt mean to start a arguement
[05:47] <tehpwnz0r> *rooms
[05:47] <Hawkwind> tehpwnz0r: /join #Channel
[05:47] <Jucato> tehpwnz0r, to join other rooms, /join #channel
[05:47] <BluDog_Anchorite> tehpwnz0r: /list
[05:47] <Jucato> to get a list of available rooms /list
[05:47] <soundmaster80> does anyone in here use amarok for their ipod?
[05:47] <Jucato> and get ready to lag
[05:47] <Hawkwind> tehpwnz0r: You can do /list or /msg chanserv list *search-term* with the *'s to look for channels with certain words in them
[05:48] <soundmaster80> i am curious to see if anyone can personally compare it to itunes?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> not me.. i wont buy an ipod.. and i wont touch itunes. :)
[05:50] <soundmaster80> well, the ipod is the easiest for podcasts and mp3 by far IMHO...however when i move to Linux i will have to find something sutible
[05:50] <orient2000> ipoder?
[05:50] <soundmaster80> no, that just downloads them
[05:51] <soundmaster80> the thing about itunes is that i just plug it in and that's it
[05:51] <soundmaster80> i configure obviously but afterwards it's just plugging in
[05:51] <orient2000> is itunes on adept?
[05:51] <unix_infidel> lol.
[05:51] <unix_infidel> now that's a goodone :P
[05:52] <soundmaster80> lol
[05:52] <King_Brad> what window manager does kubuntu use?
[05:52] <King_Brad> kdm?
[05:52] <orient2000> thre is nothing from windows in here
[05:52] <Jucato> King_Brad, KWin
[05:52] <King_Brad> k
[05:52] <King_Brad> thx
[05:53] <CVirus> King_Brad: Kubuntu uses KDE as its Desktop Environment, while KDE uses Kwin as its window manager
[05:53] <King_Brad> KWin and Kwin arent isntalled on my system.... but kdm is...
[05:53] <orient2000> KDE is like windows like
[05:53] <King_Brad> so i guess kdm would be my window manager...
[05:53] <King_Brad> ah
[05:53] <King_Brad> all lowercase
[05:54] <King_Brad> thx guys
[05:54] <Jucato> King_Brad, no. KDE = K Desktop Environment, KWin = KDE Window Manager, KDM = KDE Display Manager
[05:54] <King_Brad> almost got this xnest figured out
[05:54] <Jucato> King_Brad, yeah, Linux is very case sensitive
[05:54] <morghanphoenix> what's the dpkg end tag to fix dependancies
[05:55] <King_Brad> yea i noticed hehe
[05:55] <unix_infidel> orient2000: soon the wine project will be able to run itunes.
[05:56] <unix_infidel> not necessarily wine, but maybe cxoffice
[05:56] <orient2000> what happen if I choose grub manager in kdm?
[05:56] <King_Brad> umm, in this tutorial i am reading on how to use xnest, he says to use twm (the window manager) but, says any windows manager will work.. ayways, he says to use twm -display :2 to launch the xnest session
[05:56] <King_Brad> but when i do this, it tells me it cannot connect to display :2
[05:56] <King_Brad> any idea where i am going wrong?
[05:57] <argonautico> hi to all
[05:58] <Homer> it's possible to use gdm instead of kdm right?
[05:59] <Jucato> Homer, yes, but I don't think you'd be able to have some features like Restart or Shutdown when you're in KDE and you used GDM. not 100% sure
[05:59] <Jucato> orient2000, you get options to restart your system to a specific entry in your GRUB/menu.lst. I haven't gotten it to work, though
[06:00] <Jucato> I guess it only works if GRUB is installed in MBR of hda
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  i think you hafe to enable that feature
[06:00] <argonautico> I trying to use morpheus with wine but it the icon just keeps bouncing and does nothing
[06:01] <unix_infidel> argonautico: there are a lof ot FT p2p apps out there.
[06:01] <Jucato> Dr_willis, orient2000 was asking what "enabling that feature" does
[06:01] <unix_infidel> you dont need morpheus.
[06:01] <orient2000> I have only one HD and only kubuntu. You think I shoud restart (boot) with no problem?
[06:02] <orient2000> other HD with windows are enabled for the last 3 months.
[06:02] <orient2000> sorry, they are disabled.
[06:03] <orient2000> I do not want to screw my system.
[06:03] <Jucato> orient2000, I don't think that setting touches GRUB or menu.lst directly. but like I said, I'm not sure because I haven't gotten it to work, even if I enabled it in KDM (Login Manager in System Settings)
[06:04] <stanleyds> found the prob. was the drivers. installed the nvidia drivers and everything plays beautifully now..... and if i didn't know any better... it looks like it's playin better than it did in xp. this is kickass stuff.
[06:04] <Homer> I actually really like the enlightenment display manager
[06:04] <Homer> brb
[06:10] <argonautico> so, what program should you suggest to me?
[06:13] <Lam_> where's the trash folder located in kde?
[06:14] <thompa> kubuntu edgy is amazing
[06:15] <thompa> everything running real fast now
[06:15] <OOD> can anyone send me an edgy sources.list file?
[06:16] <intelikey> good howdy do.
[06:16] <thompa> OOD: go through your sources.lst and change 'dapper' to 'edgy' the whole way through
[06:17] <OOD> hah, i forgot to press the apply button *slaps self*
[06:17] <intelikey> any somebody might answer me, howto get applications in the twm menu ?
[06:17] <thompa> OOD: are you running nvidia by chance
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> there we go
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> screened irssi sessions... yummy
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> cc/clear
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> wow
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> hmmm
[06:18] <thompa> OOD: then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:18] <OOD> yeah it's all fine now
[06:18] <intelikey> irssi is "screened" by default.   no?
[06:18] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: no
[06:18] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: i forgot to do it lol
[06:18] <thompa> OOD: i had big problems getting nvidia, xorg, and restricted modules setup
[06:19] <intelikey> you mean irssi running in screen ?
[06:19] <thompa> but i hope its fixed now
[06:19] <OOD> i had a problem with todays update
[06:19] <OOD> screwed my edgy install completely
[06:19] <thompa> OOD: are you running nvidia
[06:19] <OOD> i just got it back up after hours of waster time
[06:19] <intelikey> it has it's place, it's place is just not on my box.
[06:19] <OOD> yes, but it wasn't an nvidia specific problem
[06:19] <OOD> at least i dont think it is
[06:19] <thompa> id like to know if nvidia-glx is installable
[06:20] <OOD> it is
[06:20] <thompa> i had a total mismatch, it was installing the wrong packages and i had to manually purge stuff
[06:20] <orient2000> If you are the only user you can do ALT F2 kdm and aotorestrt so you can boot with no password. Do not click apply, click OK and then reboot. Apply will black out your screen and you have to reset. I guess it is some kind of error. I am happy to reboot with no password now.
[06:21] <intelikey> orient2000 i have passwordless consoles  :)
[06:22] <orient2000> same way?
[06:22] <intelikey> no
[06:22] <intelikey> has to be an init script
[06:22] <orient2000> how did you do it?
[06:23] <orient2000> more? what script?
[06:24] <intelikey> not a good way. but a line in /etc/rc.local like this will give you the idea. "su - <username> -- openvt -fc 24 "
[06:25] <intelikey> it's [right-alt] +[f12]   for quick access to it.
[06:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: hope there isn't a policy about duplicate sessions in here.
[06:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: im logged in 3 times lol
[06:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: t3hwiz0rd-ibook, T3hWiz0rd, t3hwiz0rd-server
[06:25] <intelikey> not that i know of.  but clones are frowned upon in irc in general.
[06:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: why?
[06:26] <intelikey> because of all the script/bot attacks
[06:26] <intelikey> when one ip logs in more than twice it's often a sign of up comming scripts
[06:27] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: im not botting though i just rotate between 3 computers often lol
[06:27] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: well if anyone ever warns me i'll always take one offline
[06:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> brb
[06:28] <intelikey> like i said i don't know of any policy in here.   but you can check the webpage   it's in the greeting message when you connect.
[06:28] <t3hwiz0rd-server> hmmm
[06:28] <intelikey> any somebody might answer me, howto get applications in the twm menu ?
[06:28] <intelikey> my twm menu is all but blank.
[06:29] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i may just keep this shell open and use it on my ibook
[06:29] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i am becomming too much of a shell junkie anyway
[06:30] <intelikey> nobody ?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Heh
[06:31] <Dr_willis> i thogh twm read stuff in a directory
[06:31] <t3hwiz0rd-server> Dr_willis: are you laughing at me foo
[06:31] <Dr_willis> i aint used it in years
[06:32] <Dr_willis> No manual entry for twm
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Blasphmy!
[06:32] <intelikey> lol
[06:32] <intelikey> doc you don't have twm installed
[06:32] <Dr_willis> http://www.uwo.ca/its/doc/hdi/x11/x4-twm.html
[06:32] <Dr_willis> thats possible. :P
[06:33] <Dr_willis> i perfer wmx for a uber-light window manager
[06:33] <Dr_willis> but it aint been updated in years...
[06:34] <intelikey> how light ?
[06:34] <t3hwiz0rd-server> as light as a fat girl on atkins
[06:34] <Dr_willis> I thnk the whole source is less tehn a mb.. and it compiles in like 10 sec.
[06:34] <intelikey> twm  Size: 95448
[06:34] <intelikey> bites
[06:35] <intelikey> that's not source tho
[06:35] <Dr_willis> theres some option needed to compule wmx however with the new gcc's i forget what it is.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> wmx gets its menu from a directory.. put softlinks/scripts in there to get your menu.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Its nifty in that it has 'sideways' title bars. :)
[06:35] <Dr_willis>  $HOME/.twmrc  and theres a system wide twmrc it seems
[06:36] <intelikey> hmmm well twm is functioning properly and i like twm ok (as much as i use a gui hehhe)  but it's menu is bare.
[06:37] <intelikey>  /usr/lib/X11/twm/system.twmrc  <<--- that one ?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> usr/share/doc/twm/examples
[06:37] <Dr_willis> seems to have some also.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> :P im just reading the man pages and looking. Lol
[06:38] <intelikey> k
[06:38] <intelikey> me too
[06:38] <Dr_willis> grrr my fileserver is down! argh!
[06:38] <Dr_willis> hmm.. wtf..
[06:38] <Dr_willis> down to the basement i go!
[06:41] <t3hwiz0rd-server> Dr_willis: don't let your mom catch you ;-)
[06:42] <intelikey> hmmm applied the example "keith.twmrc"   i like the menu design but there is still no apps.... surely there must be a script or something to add all the x-apps to the menu
[06:42] <Dr_willis> the wife is sittin ghere.. Playing some Dogz Game for the GameBoy on her pc.. :P
[06:42] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd-server hehhe  like to live dangerously do ya ?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Im not sure twm can handle ALL the apps.
[06:43] <intelikey> Dr_willis i have seen it have the full list of apps in the menu before.  but this menu has no apps.
[06:44] <intelikey> i mean iconify raise and lower   is about it.
[06:44] <t3hwiz0rd-server> Dr_willis: lol...
[06:44] <intelikey> xkill    i guess it does have one app
[06:44] <t3hwiz0rd-server> intelikey: lol...
[06:48] <Pensacola> when I start konqueror I get this error: usr/lib/kde/konq_iconview.so: indefined symbol
[06:48] <Pensacola> it happened after the last update
[06:48] <Healot> rm -rf kubuntu :)
[06:49] <Pensacola> remove kubuntu?
[06:49] <easrat> hey
[06:49] <easrat> are you there
[06:49] <Healot> i just like that tagline :)
[06:50] <Pensacola> :D
[06:50] <easrat> yeah
[06:50] <easrat> have you seen one guy passing by
[06:50] <easrat> oh ok then i gotta go, it was nice meetin you
[06:51] <intelikey> i think he went  ----->  that'a way.
[06:51] <easrat> what was he wearing
[06:51] <intelikey> an irc client
[06:52] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i've been called 9 different fowl words in the past 3 minutes... lol
[06:52] <intelikey> you didn't expect him to be in here naked did you?
[06:52] <intelikey> pigon
[06:52] <intelikey> make it 10
[06:53] <intelikey> pigeon   even
[06:58] <Lam_> what the hell is the point in using kde wallet if knetworkmanager asks you for the network's access password anyways?
[06:59] <intelikey> Lam_ it gives hackers another file to get your personal info from ???
[06:59] <Lam_> bah
[06:59] <intelikey> :)
[07:00] <Lam_> is there a way at least to make knetworkmanager stop accessing kde wallet?
[07:00] <intelikey> ah come on play the game....
[07:00] <Lam_> or would you not know?
[07:00] <intelikey> i would not know.
[07:00] <Lam_> fair enough :P
[07:00] <intelikey> that's all pointy clicky terratory
[07:00] <Jucato> lol
[07:01] <intelikey> but i bet ya john the ripper can get your passwd out of your kwallet  :)
[07:02] <intelikey> say Jucato.   how is ya ?
[07:02] <Jucato> still "forced" to use the dreaded OS on a PC that is not mine :)
[07:03] <intelikey> my heart bleedssssss
[07:03] <intelikey> well maybe some day.
[07:04] <Jucato> yeah.. hopefully...
[07:05] <intelikey> Jucato what part of the "project" is yours ?
[07:05] <Jucato> what "project"?
[07:05] <intelikey> kubuntu
[07:05] <intelikey> are'nt you part of the teem now ?
[07:05] <intelikey> aren't
[07:05] <Jucato> um... in a way, yes...
[07:06] <Jucato> mostly I do support stuff. Helping in IRC, forums, etc. haven't really gotten down (and dirty) into Kubuntu...
[07:06] <Jucato> specially not right now, since I'm not even using Linux...
[07:07] <intelikey> so just wondering what to blame on you... oh i see.   i thought you were helping with edgy
[07:07] <Jucato> hah no.
[07:07] <Jucato> you don't have anything to blame on me. at least not yet... :P
[07:07] <intelikey> :)
[07:08] <intelikey> well as above.  maybe some day  :)
[07:08] <Jucato> probably edgy+1... if I can really drag myself to do something productive
[07:09] <intelikey> ok, great.  well i'll let you get back to work.   peace dude
[07:09] <Jucato> I have no work to do right now...
[07:10] <intelikey> oh.  then it's your dime
[07:10] <Jucato> this dreaded OS is really dragging me down... :(
[07:10] <Jucato> I can barely get anything Linux-related done...
[07:10] <intelikey> yeah.   hey i could dcc you a virus   :)
[07:10] <Jucato> lol
[07:10] <intelikey> would it help ?
[07:11] <intelikey> i have a pretty nasty one...
[07:11] <intelikey> :)
[07:11] <Jucato> no it wouldn't :)
[07:11] <Jucato> well, it would probably help if I wanted to annoy my sister
[07:11] <Jucato> (this is her PC)
[07:11] <intelikey> ok.    well just trying to help any way i can.
[07:12] <Jucato> :)
[07:12] <intelikey> :)
[07:12] <intelikey> don't know off hand how twm updates the menu do you ?
[07:13] <intelikey> my twm menu is vacent
[07:13] <Jucato> um no
[07:14] <intelikey> i could edit the rc file  but that don't seem very productive... there is surely a script or something.
[07:14] <intelikey> but it's nothing important anyway.
[07:23] <zen_> ok im losta gain
[07:23] <zen_> i have two things i wanna do
[07:23] <Dr_willis> hmm
[07:23] <zen_> on eis install a printer driver for my lexmark x7170 all in one printer
[07:24] <zen_> and the other is
[07:24] <zen_> i want to make the last stage of a file to make my compiz work
[07:24] <zen_> withthe xgl
[07:24] <zen_> but lets do the lexmark forst
[07:24] <zen_> cos the other is not so urgent
[07:25] <dude_> !xgl
[07:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:26] <zen2> i have got all the files installed  i just need to configure it to run
[07:26] <zen2> but lets get back to the lexmark
[07:27] <Dr_willis> First thing for the printer is to check the cups.org page to se eif its even supported.
[07:27] <osiris> what is the name of the cli tool (ncurses based i think) for toggling processes per run level
[07:28] <intelikey> zen_ ist here a nych ance th at yo uwoul dgetm or ehelp i fpeo ple coul dactu all yre adwha ty out yped ?     please disreguard my typos...
[07:28] <zen2> yep ther eis
[07:28] <Dr_willis> lexmark x7170  does seem to have linux support.. lets google some more on it.. :)
[07:28] <zen2> i got all you said straight away
[07:29] <zen2> yeah i went to lexmarks site they had redhat and suse files
[07:29] <zen2> they are tar.gz files
[07:29] <Dr_willis> of course hopefully the cups guys used the info and made pdd files for it.
[07:30] <Dr_willis> unless the thing is vey very new
[07:30] <zen2> ohh so pdd is a file type
[07:30] <zen2> nah 2 years old
[07:31] <intelikey> should be supported in cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[07:31] <intelikey> no ?
[07:31] <Dr_willis> No idea.
[07:31] <Dr_willis> My printer is 10 years old. :P
[07:31] <zen2> hmm that did not make sense to me
[07:31] <Dr_willis> I just found some info on that printer in the ubuntu forums
[07:32] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[07:32] <zen2> can i get the link
[07:32] <intelikey> oh Dr_willis for breezy/dapper/edgy/ ?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> reading it now. :)
[07:33] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77817
[07:33] <zen2> Setting up cupsys-driver-gimpprint (5.0.0~rc2-0ubuntu6) ...
[07:33] <zen2> zennix@zennix-desktop:~$
[07:35] <rawr> i have put my self in a bad place.
[07:35] <rawr> reintalled kubuntu and now the internet don't work
[07:35] <zen2> ok i just read it
[07:36] <zen2> im not likeing the look of that
[07:36] <zen2> looks like no support
[07:36] <intelikey> oh no the internet is not working.... oh wait you mean you can't connect to the inet...  wheew  had me worried... rawr     all joking aside  what errors do you get ?
[07:37] <rawr> can't find host i think it was
[07:37] <rawr> durring install there was
[07:37] <rawr> can't updatedequirity
[07:38] <intelikey> !wifi
[07:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:38] <rawr> its a wire modem
[07:38] <rawr> ethernet cable
[07:38] <intelikey> !cable
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <rawr> weird to think it worked before i reinstalled...
[07:39] <rawr> but screws on me now
[07:39] <rawr> And also strangly anouth firefox didn't come wwith it......
[07:39] <Dr_willis> zen2,  from what i am reading lexmark has info out on that printer.. but its not in the cups stuff yet.. as far as i can tell and the scanner part - has some other drivers out.
[07:40] <rawr> oh well
[07:40] <intelikey> rawr not really so wierd.  probably something didn't quite copy correctly.    and firefox does not come with kubuntu.   you can install ff when you get the network working.
[07:40] <rawr> didn't know that
[07:40] <Dr_willis> Price When Reviewed: $150   - wow that printer can do a lot for $150
[07:41] <rawr> but yet again it was a very long time since i first installed
[07:41] <Dr_willis> But i will stick with my 10 yr old printer. :P
[07:41] <zen2> ok so im doomed for now
[07:41] <zen2> thanks anyway
[07:41] <Dr_willis> zen2,  im getting where i perfer network enabled printers.
[07:41] <zen2> yeah is a dam fine system
[07:42] <rawr> Hey wait a min..... i didn't format my /home .
[07:42] <zen2> yep makes more sense to me too
[07:42] <intelikey> Dr_willis any chance you could get rawr's eth0 up for him
[07:42] <Dr_willis> at least lexmark acknoledges that Linux Exists...
[07:42] <Dr_willis> Canon dont even want to do that.
[07:42] <rawr> cause i had my crap on it
[07:42] <zen2> yeah
[07:42] <Dr_willis> Its 2 am here..i am about to hit the bed
[07:42] <rawr> perhaps that causes problems?
[07:42] <intelikey> rawr that should not affect the network
[07:42] <Dr_willis> I dont see how  home would affect it. :)
[07:42] <intelikey> but i'm network illeterate
[07:43] <Dr_willis> #1 - check ALL your network settings.. :)
[07:43] <rawr> I am just so used to plugin things and them working.
[07:43] <Dr_willis> #2 ping the gateway, other machines,  dns servers..
[07:43] <intelikey> cable modem  ^
[07:43] <rawr> and unfortantly i am currently in windows
[07:43] <rawr> dsl modem.
[07:44] <rawr> i was only refering to it n ot bieng wifi sorry about that
[07:44] <Dr_willis> jot down the ip for google. (or an ip for them) if you can ping the ip, but not the www.google.com    ----> that imples a dns server setting
[07:44] <Dr_willis> if you cant ping either, and cant ping the gateway.   -> net card config issues.
[07:44] <rawr> i see
[07:45] <intelikey> !dsl
[07:45] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:45] <rawr> anything else i should look at while i am booted
[07:45] <Dr_willis> check dmesg output also - to see  if the card is seen right...
[07:45] <rawr> i just hate windows so much..
[07:45] <intelikey> rawr take notes...   cause he won't be here to gripe at when you get back.
[07:45] <rawr> il copy the conv.
[07:46] <rawr> save in my shared partiion tween wwindows and ku.
[07:46] <rawr> dmesg output?
[07:46] <Dr_willis> dmesg command :)
[07:47] <intelikey> yes  and also read  --->   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:47] <rawr> @.@
[07:47] <Dr_willis> well its late for me.. night
[07:47] <rawr> thanks for the help i hope everything works
[07:48] <intelikey> dmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer        dmesg is used to examine or control the kernel ring buffer.       The program helps users to print out their bootup messages.  Instead of
[07:48] <intelikey>        copying the messages by hand, the user need only:
[07:48] <intelikey>               dmesg > boot.messages
[07:48] <intelikey>        and mail the boot.messages file to whoever can debug their problem.
[07:49] <intelikey> that's from the  "man dmesg "
[07:51] <rawr> i think i may have anouth info
[07:51] <rawr> thanks
[07:51] <Ayabara> how do I add a host key to .ssh/known_hosts? (or disable strict checking of keys)
[07:52] <rawr> hopefully next time il be helping people not whining my ass off night
[07:52] <adr1an> I tried to install kubuntu 6.06 on amd64 platform and i encounterd problems whish i think are related to my ati x800gto video card. Can someone please tell me what to do in order for me to properly install kubuntu. Thx in advance
[07:53] <intelikey> !ati
[07:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:53] <intelikey> !malone
[07:53] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[07:53] <adr1an> thx
[07:56] <intelikey> man Ayabara i don't know but have you looked   " man ssh-copy-id ;man ssh-keygen ;man ssh-keyscan "  ???
[07:57] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: day 2 has officially ended and kubuntu has been going on rock-steady.
[07:57] <Ayabara> intelikey, I took a quick look, but the man page said so much that I tried to use you guys as a shortcut :-) thanks
[07:58] <Ayabara> ahh, no, I just checked man for ssh
[07:59] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd  ah well i can't always be right.    it's not fair to the rest of ya.
[07:59] <intelikey> :)
[08:00] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: why are you so doubtful of debian?
[08:00] <intelikey> i'm not.  but this is not debian.
[08:00] <T3hWiz0rd> kubuntu is debian
[08:00] <intelikey> i know it's build from debian packages
[08:00] <intelikey> but it
[08:00] <T3hWiz0rd> kubuntu is a debian os lol
[08:00] <intelikey> oops.  but it's not debian.
[08:00] <intelikey> no it's not.
[08:01] <T3hWiz0rd> how is it not a debian?
[08:01] <intelikey> many things are compiled differently than their debian ancestors
[08:02] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: its still a debian os, even if it is a little custom
[08:02] <intelikey> tell that in #debian  :)
[08:02] <T3hWiz0rd> the people in #debian haven't seen daylight in 20 years
[08:03] <intelikey> but you know more about their code than they do ???
[08:05] <intelikey> i mean saying ubuntu = debian   is almost like saying debian = bsd because it has many bsd apps....
[08:05] <momal> lol? 2 people fighting over something that no one cares about lol !!!
[08:05] <intelikey> where momal ?
[08:06] <momal> the ubuntu and debian thingo you and t3hwizord are talking about lol!
[08:06] <intelikey> talking about != fight
[08:07] <momal> lol fight to me :p
[08:07] <rredd4> is there a way to disable the sound when the desktop appears?  without killing all of the sound..
[08:07] <momal> anyone arguing points betwen each other is a fight :p
[08:07] <intelikey> oh then you and i must be fighting also momal
[08:07] <intelikey> :)
[08:08] <momal> indeed... if you say its not a fight and i do then we are :p
[08:08] <intelikey> rredd4 yes.  in the system > something.....  i forget...
[08:08] <momal> rredd4: system settings> sounds multimedia>system notifications... should be in there somewhere :D
[08:09] <Ayabara> I always prefer fighting people who don't know they're in a fight. makes it easier to convince myself I won.
[08:09] <intelikey> Ayabara hehhe
[08:09] <momal> interesting idea :p
[08:09] <intelikey> and is self deception a good thing ?
[08:09] <intelikey> :)
[08:10] <Ayabara> I have spent a lot of time convincing myself that self deception is a good thing ;-)
[08:10] <intelikey> :)
[08:11] <eri> nick #bandung
[08:11] <intelikey> well as long as you are unanamus about it Ayabara   :)
[08:14] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd anyway.  back to our "fight"  or saying that every linux os is a gentoo os because they are all built from the same source code.....    :)
[08:14] <rredd4> nomal  ty its under system notifications/events/KDE is starting up
[08:14] <rredd4> ty
[08:18] <intelikey> if it's GNU/Linux  it's good,  because it's linux.... the GNU part...meh i guess i'm not a rms fan.  but that don't mean i'm against him/it.
[08:19] <Healot> moo you
[08:19] <intelikey> root means square ?
[08:24] <ubuntu> hello
[08:24] <intelikey> say
[08:26] <Zaire> anyone in here know css?
[08:26] <Healot> Zaire: what seems to be the problem? IE rendering doesn't work?
[08:27] <Zaire> its not really that Im having trouble getting the stuff in my footer div to go to the far left rather then centered left plus while doing so keeping the css valid
[08:28] <intelikey> ah ha !   there's the problem.    update-menus[10552] : Script /etc/menu-methods/twm returned error status 1.
[08:28] <Healot> zaire: your css declaration for that footer div?
[08:29] <Zaire> http://pastebin.ca/204752
[08:31] <Healot> ok, since it is a relative positioning... what's the body width and height?
[08:31] <Zaire> 1280x1024
[08:32] <Healot> huge; ok, let's see if the CSS is valid
[08:33] <Healot> the align-left property is not a valid prop
[08:33] <intelikey> hah  the symlink in /usr/sbin/install-menu  was borked.     and duh  why is the script in /usr/bin and every thing that uses it is looking for it in /usr/sbin   that's wak
[08:33] <Healot> you want the footer to be left-aligned?
[08:34] <Zaire> yeps I took that left:256px; out again and its valid but positioning is't the way I would like it
[08:34] <Healot> align-left:400px; << this is not a valid prop though
[08:34] <Zaire> yea I want it all the way on the left side
[08:35] <Zaire> not just slightly left lol
[08:35] <Healot> try float: left
[08:36] <Healot> you want the div to be left-aligned or the text-align to be left-aligned?
[08:36] <Zaire> the whole thing to tell the truth
[08:37] <Zaire> float left didn't even touch its position
[08:42] <intelikey> Warning: the string include-menu-defs did not occur in template file /etc/X11/twm//system.twmrc-menu     still no menu
[08:43] <dude> hello
[08:43] <dude> is it safe to install xserver-xgl?
[08:44] <kraut> moin
[08:45] <Zaire> only 3 things could result from xgl #1 in just may not work, #2 it may break linux, #3 it may also possibly work lol
[08:46] <dude> zaire: so what is ur recoomendaton?
[08:46] <dude> zaire: so what is ur recomendaton?
[08:46] <Zaire> dunno personally cause Ive never gotten it to work
[08:47] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: it can also do all 3 at once...
[08:47] <Zaire> course it just didn't work when I tried it
[08:47] <Zaire> lol such is linux, always and adventure lol
[08:47] <T3hWiz0rd> lol... wooo my scripts still there
[08:48] <dude> zaire: so may be i will not not install xgl then 4 the meantime
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> XGL gets boring fast
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> its like a blonde girlfriend...
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> fun until the miles rack up.
[08:49] <dude> hehehe
[08:49] <Zaire> well unless you can get someone who knows enough about it prob best not to lol
[08:49] <dude> T3hWizord: have you tried XGL?
[08:49] <T3hWiz0rd> dude: yes, but i did it on its native suse platform
[08:49] <T3hWiz0rd> and even there its buggy and basically stupid.
[08:50] <dude> T3hWizord: it is inculded in suse platform right?
[08:50] <T3hWiz0rd> dude: not included, just installable
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> and to think... im the one listening to robert palmer 0.o''
[08:51] <dude> so what is the verdict?
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> dude: i would avoid it its still CVS and thus buggy and you can blow your system out of the water like the republican agenda.
[08:52] <dude> T3hWizord: ok...tnx, i'l just enjoy my existing 3ddesktop
[08:52] <T3hWiz0rd> what are you using now?
[08:53] <Blacken> Open-source mathematica-ish programs...anyone have any recommendations?
[08:53] <dude> 3ddesktop
[08:53] <dude> additional application
[08:54] <intelikey> hmmm   Warning: the string include-menu-defs did not occur in template file /etc/X11/twm//system.twmrc-menu      but it also doesn't appear in anything i can find.    and still no menu entries.
[08:54] <intelikey> Blacken "mathematica-ish"   never heard of mathematica  what's it like ?
[08:55] <hastesaver> Blacken, yes. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScientists , the mathematics section
[08:55] <hastesaver> Blacken, the problem is that there are lots ;-)
[08:55] <intelikey> oh a scientific calc app
[08:55] <intelikey> yeah lots
[08:56] <intelikey> bc   :)
[08:57] <hastesaver> intelikey, no, no, more than bc :-) It can plot graphs, find roots of polynomials, do symbolic integration, ...
[08:58] <intelikey> hastesaver bc was followed by     :)
[08:59] <intelikey> bc is hardly a scientific calculator     it's more of a algabraic algarythm reader
[08:59] <Blacken> hastesaver: Any that you'd recommend?
[09:00] <Blacken> Searching synaptic brings up Axiom.
[09:01] <hastesaver> Blacken, I haven't used any of them (yet). I've heard ohers use maxima and octave, though
[09:01] <hastesaver> Blacken, mathematica is also available for Linux, if you can buy it :)
[09:02] <Blacken> I'm helping teach a class in calculus...need something that will break 'em down step by step.
[09:04] <ztr> muuuuuuuuh
[09:04] <ztr> fdasffds
[09:04] <ztr> sdf
[09:04] <ztr> dssssfFFFFD
[09:04] <ztr> SSSGGGGGGGGWEEEEEEG
[09:04] <ztr> WE
[09:04] <ztr> fgE
[09:04] <ztr> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEW4444hhhhhhhhhhh
[09:04] <Blacken> Banmeat is you. Die please.
[09:05] <hastesaver> Blacken, I'm trying out "mathomatic" now... looks usable (no GUI, though)
[09:06] <hastesaver> Blacken, what exactly do you want, BTW? What do you mean by step by step?
[09:08] <Zaire> damnit I still can't get total left alignment
[09:09] <Blacken> hastesaver: I'm looking at mathomatic right now, too. Basically what I want it to do is go through a function/task as a human would and output the intermediate steps.
[09:10] <Blacken> Like--doing a derivative; do the chain rule, product rule, whatever.
[09:12] <Zaire> damn this is driving me insane
[09:12] <Blacken> hastesaver: It's not exactly a common thing to look for, but it's gotta exist. :P
[09:12] <hastesaver> Blacken, maybe. I'm not sure :-)
[09:13] <Blacken> hastesaver: There's a website that does it, and does it well--uses webMathematica as a backend.
[09:13] <kumsy>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[09:13] <Zaire> is there a website that does css for you :S
[09:13] <Blacken> hastesaver: However, the website basically GIVES them the answer, so I don't want to give it out to them; I want to use it as an example.
[09:13] <kumsy> -
[09:13] <kumsy>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[09:13] <kumsy> -
[09:13] <Blacken> Zaire: You're looking for #css, I believe.
[09:14] <hastesaver> Blacken, I'm not sure if it exists; and I'm even less sure if it's possible to find it :-)
[09:14] <Blacken> hastesaver: Probably not. Which sucks. I *know* that it's out there...just maybe not OSS. :/
[09:15] <hastesaver> Blacken, but if differentiation is all you need, it should be simple to write one yourself... will probably take less time than trying to find it
[09:15] <Blacken> hastesaver: To draw out the intermediate steps from any arbitrary function put in? My C-fu ain't that great.
[09:16] <hastesaver> Blacken, oh, I was thinking only of polynomials... you could also go to the mathomatic people and bug them to include this feature
[09:16] <Zaire> well submitted my question in there...been working on this page for 3 days now
[09:16] <Zaire> well pages more or less
[09:17] <Blacken> hastesaver: True. Polynomials are pretty much everything, but the prof enjoys throwing weird crap at students.
[09:18] <Blacken> I mean--I wouldn't ever make a student do out (-9x^2+2)^8*(9x^2+6)^12 by hand. He would. *twitch*
[09:18] <Blacken> The derivative of that, that is.
[09:18] <Zaire> no one seems to be doing anything in the css channel :S
[09:19] <Blacken> Zaire: Then wait for an answer, instead of going to unrelated channels?
[09:19] <olof> i downloaded a dvd-movie in .img format  (4,5gb),   but how do i play it normally as a dvd in kaffeine without burning it?
[09:21] <hastesaver> olof, you can mount the file, and then for all purposes it's an actual dvd
[09:21] <Zaire> I just find help where ever I can
[09:21] <Healot> !bchunk
[09:21] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:21] <olof> yeah, i followed some guide to mount isos and stuff, but it didnt work
[09:21] <Healot> img?
[09:21] <Healot> hummwhichprogramcreatedit?
[09:22] <hastesaver> olof, is the .img same as an iso file?
[09:22] <olof> i think so yes
[09:22] <olof> its a dvd-movie
[09:24] <Blacken> hastesaver: IMGs are a different kind of image file. I forget the exact details, but I don't believe they mount as iso9660.
[09:24] <Blacken> Not directly. But I may be wrong.
[09:24] <Blacken> Anyway, bed...
[09:25] <olof> i mounted the img file, but and i could explore the files in konqerour, but nothing happened when i pressed play dvd in kaffeine
[09:26] <hastesaver> olof, oh, Kaffeine is probably looking for the DVD in the wrong place
[09:27] <olof> im new to linux and kubuntu if u havent noticed btw :)
[09:28] <hastesaver> olof, and I haven't used kaffeine, so I don't know how to get it to work... keep asking ("I have mounted a DVD in <location>; how do I get kaffeine to play it?", etc); I'm sure someone will answer :)
[09:30] <dude_> what is the best video player in kubuntu?
[09:30] <Healot> none
[09:30] <Healot> the best is hardware video player instead :)
[09:31] <olof> dude_: i like kaffeine best
[09:31] <dude_> actually i can't play my videos
[09:31] <ad> H ! I m editing grub  menu list : to specify a default i got to count ; should I count only entries with 'savedefaults' only ?
[09:32] <ad> dude_: try videolan
[09:32] <ad> dude_: vlc
[09:37] <olof> dude_: missing codecs?
[09:39] <dude_> olof: ya missing codec
[09:39] <dude_> olof: ya missing codecs
[09:39] <Healot> !mp3
[09:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:39] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:39] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:39] <Zaire> where are the ssh logs in kubuntu I kinda forgot lol
[09:42] <dude_> !video
[09:42] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:42] <ad> I can not find where I can change my screen resolution ::
[09:43] <ad> dude_: vlc doesn't need any codecs most time ! I got it on windows and it is very googd !
[09:44] <Healot> VLC has built-in codecs :)
[09:45] <momal> ad: system settings> display
[09:45] <dude_> k tnx
[09:47] <ad> momal: well i don't find this menu (french one :\) Is there a path ?
[09:48] <momal> ad: dunknow... but usually system settings button is in your K menu. then should be an icon of a screen for the display.
[09:49] <ad> momal: I think I find it but only 640 480 is in the select box :\
[09:49] <ad> momal: on install it was 1024 !
[09:49] <momal> ad: Could be a driver issue.. try and download latest drivers for your card
[09:49] <momal> !nvidia
[09:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:50] <ad> !ati
[09:50] <momal> ad: that link will have info for both :)
[09:51] <dude_> olof: vlc can't still play movies, just sound
[09:52] <dude_> ad: vlc can't still play movies, just sound
[09:52] <ad> k thanks :) more over since I update from breezy to dapper, my laptop keyboard works bad : letters forgotten, multiple samez letter ...
[09:52] <_alex> !nvidia
[09:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:55] <Zaire> finally took me long enough but fixed my css lol
[09:56] <Zaire> no help or nothin....I didn't put a paragraph tag in my xhtml an was missing 1 thing from my css
[09:59] <qichao> hi, does anyone know how to use shortcut keys to switch between desktop in KDE??
[09:59] <qichao> I am new to Linux, ha, anyone can help??
[10:01] <momal> qichao: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/2289.html <-- go down to the For KDE
[10:02] <livingdaylight> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
[10:02] <qichao> wow, thanks a lot
[10:02] <livingdaylight> HAPPY BIRTHDAY KDE
[10:02] <Zaire> how do you tell what version of mysql-server your running
[10:03] <livingdaylight> HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!
[10:03] <livingdaylight> FOR HE IS A JOLLY GOOD FELLOW!
[10:03] <Zaire> got a guy on the line in mysql help but need to know version of mysql-server
[10:04] <momal> lolz... livingdaylight: super excited there? :p
[10:05] <momal> Zaire: mysql --version | will give what version is running
[10:05] <livingdaylight> HI momal!
[10:06] <livingdaylight> momal: I didn't even know it was KDE's birthday! Didn't bring anything... :/
[10:07] <momal> lol!
[10:07] <Healot> KDE is so German :-
[10:08] <livingdaylight> hey... Zealot not Heathen, ok?
[10:08] <livingdaylight> NOT on KDE's Birthday please, ok Healot?
[10:08] <livingdaylight> :p
[10:08] <Healot> sch***
[10:09] <momal> rofl!
[10:09] <momal> Germe* ? :p
[10:09] <livingdaylight> *cough
[10:10] <livingdaylight> where are the developers of KDE from anyway?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> besides everywhere
[10:11] <Healot> Germany; obviously
[10:11] <livingdaylight> Healot: how can you tell?
[10:11] <Healot> err.
[10:11] <livingdaylight> is it the gears?
[10:12] <livingdaylight> ze Mahschine look~?
[10:12] <Healot> the site says so, the applications about box sayso
[10:12] <livingdaylight> Vorschprung durch Technik
[10:13] <livingdaylight> I love KDE, but they have gone over the top with their K's
[10:13] <momal> quote KDE about box: a non-profit organization legally founded in Tuebingen, Germany
[10:13] <livingdaylight> Gnome has a human feel
[10:14] <Zaire> gnome blows
[10:14] <momal> gnome = macintosh :p
[10:14] <livingdaylight> lol, momal
[10:14] <livingdaylight> Apple make good machines by the way...
[10:14] <Zaire> macintosh = blows :P
[10:15] <livingdaylight> Zaire uses Fluxbox?
[10:15] <Zaire> nope KDE or cli
[10:15] <momal> meh my machine blows any mac out the window and into the garbage truck :D
[10:16] <livingdaylight> oh, Zaire so you like the Windows-look? heehee
[10:16] <Zaire> AMD athlon64 X2 3800+ 1 GB ram 160GB HD 256 meg onboard video Gbit lan
[10:16] <livingdaylight> momal: hey, thats a neat trick...straight into the garbage truck huh?!  :o
[10:16] <momal> techincally its just as much windows as gnome is... gnome just moves its task bar
[10:17] <Zaire> hate winblows only use it for dreamweaver and BattleField 2
[10:17] <livingdaylight> Zaire: OH, so you love it actually
[10:17] <momal> Zaire: amd x2 4200 2gb ram 800gb total geforce 7800gt and gbit lan of course :p
[10:19] <momal> pft sif ati
[10:19] <momal> lol
[10:19] <livingdaylight> what does one do with 4gb or ram?
[10:19] <Zaire> vmware
[10:19] <momal> one runs many virtual machines :p
[10:19] <viviersf> have fun ?
[10:20] <livingdaylight> Doh...
[10:20] <Zaire> meg I like to test stuff with servers and Vm is the best for it plus could run multiples to beat hell lol
[10:20] <momal> I have winxp, kubuntu edgy, win98, dos+win3.11 running under vms :)
[10:20] <Zaire> lol
[10:20] <Zaire> my OS list is long lol
[10:21] <momal> dos+win3.11 doesn't really like 512mb ram lol!
[10:21] <Zaire> to put it 1 way Im 11 discs short of a 40 cd wallet full
[10:21] <momal> lol my os list is a folder of 45gb + lol!
[10:21] <livingdaylight> 29disks then
[10:21] <momal> I have all iso's for them ^^
[10:22] <Zaire> I burn them cause I format lots to mess with things
[10:23] <Zaire> I have windows NT4, 95, 98, 2000, XP pro, Vista RC2 and not gonna even list the linux distros plus I also have a copy of Solaris 10
[10:23] <dude> can i connect kubuntu to the active directory of windows server 2003?
[10:24] <livingdaylight> rofl
[10:24] <livingdaylight>  :)
[10:25] <momal> vista is pretty crap lol... I went to a microsoft office about 3weeks back and I told them they should learn to make a better os like linux lol.. they gave me bunch free xboxgames, hats shirts vista rc2, office2007 lol?
[10:25] <Zaire> vista does suck
[10:25] <livingdaylight> what, to shut you up?
[10:25] <livingdaylight> I heard vista looks nice
[10:26] <Zaire> plus if you read digg there's an extreme restriction on the license
[10:26] <livingdaylight> at #ubuntuforums some guys were saying it is better than Ubuntu
[10:26] <Zaire> ROFLMFAO
[10:26] <Zaire> I install a daemon toold and it broke the install
[10:26] <AWOSDev> MIDI problems continue to plague my computer.
[10:27] <momal> livingdaylight: take beryl downgrade it to 10% then downgrade it a further 90% then add lag thats vista lol?
[10:27] <dude> AWOSDev: can i connect kubuntu to the active directory of windows server 2003?
[10:27] <momal> arr Zaire you a digg user :D
[10:27] <AWOSDev> dude: Which way?
[10:27] <rysiek|pl> guys, where on earth can I get xmodmap mapping files (xmodmap.pl, xmodmap.us, etc)? they're not present on my system
[10:27] <AWOSDev> I tried the ALSA howto to no avail.  I have a hardware synth that works in Windows 95 and Red Hat Linux 9 (kernel 2.2).  It does not play with /dev/sequencer or /dev/snd/seq.
[10:27] <momal> yea that liscence stuff was bullcrap you can't run any vmware program on it unless you have the ulti edition :S?
[10:28] <Zaire> vista has a nice look in its own GUI wise but the interface has been overhauled and really sucks
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: yeah. and have you read the licence?
[10:28] <AWOSDev> NO WAY!
[10:28] <Zaire> no just got the clip notes from digg.com
[10:28] <AWOSDev> You can't run VMware unless you have the Ultimate edition?
[10:29] <Zaire> yeps
[10:29] <dude> AWOSDev: kubuntu as workstation
[10:29] <AWOSDev> what a crap.
[10:29] <AWOSDev> dude: Should work.
[10:29] <Zaire> and you can only have 5 comps networked with home premium
[10:29] <AWOSDev> dude: never tried it, but I heard it would work
[10:29] <AWOSDev> Zaire, I have 12 computers.
[10:30] <AWOSDev> dude: do this on the Konsole       sudo apt-get install samba3-doc
[10:30] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: the only thing it lacks, IMHO, is the line: "and thou shall not install linux nor any free software on the same machine thou hath installed the Godly Vista"
[10:30] <thoreauputic> discussion of Vista should probably be in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[10:30] <rysiek|pl> sry
[10:30] <AWOSDev> Don't give 'em any ideas!!!!!
[10:30] <Zaire> its been bad since the start...you also pretty much can't disable the windows antivirus and firewall stuff...well not completely anyway
[10:31] <AWOSDev> Ahh!
[10:31] <AWOSDev> Spambots cussing Linux and telling everyone to use "Windows" in #ubuntu!
[10:31] <Zaire> yea I thought SP2 was bad for XP lol vista was way worse lol
[10:32] <rysiek|pl> AWOSDev: ...aaand they're gone.
[10:32] <momal> http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=36820 <-- the liscening stuff for vista to those who are wishing to see it
[10:32] <livingdaylight> momal: what is the command to activate beryl again?
[10:32] <AWOSDev> And they're back!
[10:32] <momal> beryl-manager
[10:32] <livingdaylight> momal: please?   :D
[10:33] <rysiek|pl> guys, repeating my question, where on earth can I get xmodmap mapping files (xmodmap.pl, xmodmap.us, etc)? they're not present on my system
[10:34] <momal> rysiek|pl: have you tried reinstalling xmodmap ?
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> momal: darn, that would be too simple, now wouldn't it? :)
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> on it
[10:34] <Zaire> spammer in mysql channel to
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> momal: it dodn't help. I even haven't got the /usr/share/xmodmap/ dir
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> *didn't
[10:36] <livingdaylight> momal: :s ??
[10:36] <momal> livingdaylight: beryl-manager | lol you musta missed it above :p
[10:37] <momal> rysiek|pl: I don't have usr/share/xmodmap lol ?
[10:38] <livingdaylight> momal: sorry, bro...i did
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> momal: yeah, yeah, lough out loud :)
[10:38] <livingdaylight> momal: blind as a bat in hell
[10:38] <AWOSDev> Midi?
[10:38] <livingdaylight> momal: still not getting my cube though?
[10:38] <dude> AWOSDev: why is i can't play my videos?
[10:38] <momal> right click red gem> select window manager> beryl
[10:38] <AWOSDev> dude, do you have VLC?
[10:39] <dude> AWOSDev: i installed lots of players
[10:39] <dude> AWOSDev: ya i have but, same problem, no video
[10:39] <dude> just sound
[10:39] <franjesus_> rysiek|pl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=xmodmap&arch=i386&version=edgy&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive
[10:40] <dude> wmvdmod.dll issue
[10:40] <livingdaylight> momal: thats the one
[10:40] <franjesus_> rysiek|pl: gnome-applets-data is what you're looking for
[10:41] <rysiek|pl> franjesus_: yeah, the link told me, thanks
[10:41] <dude> AWOSDev: you there?
[10:41] <AWOSDev> dude yeah
[10:41] <AWOSDev> dude do you have the w32codecs?
[10:42] <dude> AWOSDev: i don't know, how do i check that?
[10:43] <AWOSDev> dude if you don't know you don't have it :)
[10:43] <axel> !checkinstall
[10:43] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[10:43] <AWOSDev> !codecs
[10:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:43] <AWOSDev> Go to this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:43] <AWOSDev> and read about w32codecs.
[10:43] <dude> ok
[10:43] <dude> tnx
[10:43] <AWOSDev> np
[10:43] <cpk2> dude: apt-cache policy w32codecs will tell you if you have it installed
[10:44] <dude> cpk2: tnx
[10:44] <dude> guys, have u tried xgl/compiz?
[10:45] <Zaire> anyone know any mods for the mysql channel cause theres a major spam prob some jerkazz has a bot in there
[10:45] <dude> is it safe to install  xgl/compiz?
[10:45] <AWOSDev> I'll see what I can do
[10:45] <momal> dude: yes... use beryl #beryl instead of compiz :)
[10:46] <momal> dude: livingdaylight has it installed working as well :)... do you have ati or nvidia ?
[10:46] <livingdaylight> momal: what about Aigl instead of XGL?
[10:46] <livingdaylight> dude: what up?
[10:46] <momal> livingdaylight: unless you have ait card don't bother about that yet lol
[10:46] <dude> momal: what wrong with compiz?
[10:46] <livingdaylight> dude: i got it working like a dream
[10:46] <dude> momal: whats wrong with compiz?
[10:47] <livingdaylight> momal: ait?
[10:47] <momal> dude: its evil 1 ... and the reps are broken for it lol.. and beryl is the *new* compiz..
[10:47] <momal> livingdaylight: ati*
[10:47] <livingdaylight> dude: beryl is the one
[10:47] <livingdaylight> momal: so Aigl is for ati cards?
[10:47] <livingdaylight> momal: and XGL for nvidia?
[10:48] <dude> livingdaylight: can you guide me?
[10:48] <dude> cpk2: w32codecs ae installed
[10:49] <momal> dude: http://beryl-project.org/ | livingdaylight: aixgl is basically for ati cards xgl however can work for ati as well
[10:49] <momal> dude: you have nvidia card or ati ?
[10:49] <cpk2> dude: great, then windows media files should run fine
[10:49] <livingdaylight> dude: this is an excellent spoon-fed howto that momal gave me http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5063-howto-xgl-beryl-kubuntu-dapper-with-nvidia
[10:49] <dude> nvidia
[10:49] <momal> dude: yea use that howto livingdaylight just linked to ^_-
[10:50] <dude> cpk2: what is your video player?
[10:50] <cpk2> dude: i use kaffeine
[10:50] <cpk2> and sometimes mplayer
[10:51] <dude> ok, tnx
[10:51] <momal> dude: go into #beryl if you need more help on it bunch people in there :)
[10:52] <livingdaylight> momal: is there a draw back to using xgl/beryl/compiz in that you can'tuse any other 3-D applications?
[10:52] <momal> livingdaylight: yes and no... some might have problems but generally hasn't been reported probs
[10:53] <livingdaylight> momal: how about google-earth for example?
[10:53] <momal> try it out and see :p... no reason to why it shoulnt' work
[10:53] <cpk2> dude: it really shouldnt matter what player you use
[10:53] <livingdaylight> momal: but what if i try and my computer blows up!?
[10:54] <dude> cpk2: it is working now, tnx
[10:54] <dude> livingdaylight: hehehe, it seems that im confused
[10:54] <momal> lol then you sue google :)... umm nar it wont at most whats would happen is that X would crash and you just log back in :)
[10:54] <momal> dude: lol?... you need help setting up beryl/xgl ?
[10:54] <dude> momal: yes pls
[10:56] <AWOSDev> Well I'll be going to be now, g'night all
[10:56] <AWOSDev> 4:55am EDT
[10:56] <Ayabara> the system beep is driving me insane. I tried removing it with "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr", but it won't die.
[10:56] <momal> sleep tight :p
[10:57] <AWOSDev> :)
[10:57] <AWOSDev> bmo, did you get my email?
[10:58] <dude> unregistred nick?
[10:58] <user_____> non-ts
[10:59] <AWOSDev> dude, me?  No I'm reged
[10:59] <AWOSDev> well g'night all
[11:00] <gzevspero> Hi, I have an avermedia pci video capture card in my PC, how can I find out if it has been detected and installed correctly in ubuntu?
[11:00] <dude> NickServ- The nickname [dude]  is already registered
[11:00] <momal> lol badluck...
[11:01] <cpk2> gzevspero: first step would be to see if it shows up in lspci
[11:01] <wilson> hehehe
[11:02] <momal> lol? just come talk in #beryl and will say it there :p
[11:03] <wilson> why is it i cant register
[11:03] <wilson> hmmmm
[11:03] <Ayabara> anyone? how can I get rid of the system beep?
[11:04] <cpk2> Ayabara: in konsole?
[11:04] <Ayabara> cpk2, everywhere
[11:04] <cpk2> well, you could just unplug the speaker
[11:05] <Ayabara> cpk2, hmm. it seemed to work the second time I did modprobe -r
[11:05] <Ayabara> :-)
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Ayabara: in X,  xset b off , in tty setterm -blength 0  if I recall correctly
[11:05] <Ayabara> thoreauputic, thanks, did that fix too :-)
[11:06] <cmvo> Hi! I'm looking for a utility that would spread files, that are too many/big for one cd, across directories so they could be burned on several cds.
[11:08] <kalbs> finally
[11:08] <kalbs> hehehe
[11:08] <gzevspero> cpk2: yes, it shows up as "Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder"
[11:15] <kalbs> cani run winxp on kubuntu?
[11:17] <RogueJediZero> kalbs: Sorry. Only through VMware or Bochs
[11:18] <kalbs> which is better VMmare or Bochs?
[11:18] <_alex> Hi ! Is it possible to control windows XP pro from kubuntu via terminal server ?
[11:19] <RogueJediZero> kalbs: I'd say VMware
[11:20] <RogueJediZero> But it isn't free
[11:20] <olof> can i run open gl apps  thru vmware/bochs?
[11:20] <RogueJediZero> Don't think so, no
[11:20] <RogueJediZero> Both give you just a basic SVGA driver
[11:21] <RogueJediZero> At least last time I tried them, they did.
[11:39] <Shoiab> I have cable net behind windows isa server!!!! unable to connect under ubuntu!!! waht I do??
[11:42] <dude> how can i reset my adept manager
[11:42] <dude> database locked
[11:43] <dude> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[11:46] <Shoiab>  I have cable net behind windows isa server!!!! unable to connect under ubuntu!!! waht I do??
[11:46] <dude> how can i reset my adept manager
[11:47] <cpk2> dude: try killall adept
[11:47] <cpk2> and killall apt-get
[11:48] <dude> apt-get: no process killed
[11:49] <bmo> no cpk, he's got a lockfile for apt somewhere...I am looking where it might be
[11:49] <bmo> er...
[11:49] <bmo> I know, why don't I use google...derrrr...
[11:49] <Jucato> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:50] <dude> actually, im downloading VMware
[11:50] <dude> momal
[11:51] <momal> just sec my box is screwing its self over at the moment
[11:51] <momal> kopete just doesn't work anymore... like wtf thats twice now
[11:51] <Jucato> dude, "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[11:52] <dude> ok
[11:52] <_alex> I m looking for a good remote control client/server : I want to control windows XP from my kubuntu on my LAN. I tried Real VNC / Tight VNC but both are too slow :\
[11:53] <dude> jucato: nothing happend
[11:53] <_alex> I want something as fast as terminal server when controlling windows XP with another windows XP
[11:54] <bmo> dude, try this...
[11:54] <bmo> rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[11:55] <bmo> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Apt-get
[11:55] <Jucato> dude, after trying the command, were you able to run Adept or apt-get again?
[11:55] <bmo> rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[11:55] <bmo>   rm /var/lib/aptitude/lock
[11:55] <bmo>   rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:55] <bmo>   rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[11:55] <dude> jucato: tnx....
[11:57] <bmo>  If so, or as a last resort, try issuing this:
[11:57] <bmo>   dpkg --configure -a
[11:57] <bmo> This lets Debian's dpkg finish the configuration phase previously begun. You should be able to use aptitude as normal afterhand.
[11:58] <kalbs> momal: bc
[11:58] <kalbs> momal: are you busy?
[12:00] <kalbs> momal: are you busy?
[12:02] <Ayabara> do you guys frown upon Automatix? I tried it once, and seem to recall that no one in the channel would help me until I uninstalled it :-)
[12:02] <momal> kalbs: yea just sec need to fix my box first I have work I have to get done and if my box isn't working im screwed
[12:02] <Ranma2264> Hi to all I just wanna ask does anyone know if there is a way to edit desktop device icons?
[12:02] <kalbs> okl
[12:04] <Ranma2264> I can only mount my devices via right click and they only point to mountpoint not to media:/ anyone with the same issue?
[12:05] <kalbs> why is it my adept is malfunctioning
[12:05] <kalbs> im downloading vmware and it stops at 16%
[12:05] <kalbs> whay is that
[12:06] <sredna> Hm, which package contains kcolorchooser?
[12:11] <zen2> ok im back and im unhappy
[12:11] <zen2> now i need to know
[12:11] <zen2> what was the xgl chan listed earlier
[12:11] <zen2> !xgl
[12:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:11] <franjesus> sredna: use the file search feature in ubuntu's web
[12:11] <zen2> noice
[12:12] <sredna> franjesus: Thank you, but I guessed right - it is in kcoloredit
[12:12] <Ayabara> anyone using beagle? I can't get the beagle daemon to start indexing
[12:12] <carsten> moin
[12:13] <kalbs> my adept manager is not working
[12:13] <carsten> I think that bug 63541 and bug 64570 are the same...
[12:13] <carsten> Whom do I report this ;-)
[12:14] <carsten> Riddell: I even think they might be KDM bugs... but you are not subscribed to these two bugs
[12:14] <_alex> I m trying RDP for remote access to winXP. I can see the log window of XP but my keyboard does not work :\ Can any one help please ?
[12:16] <kalbs> my adept manager is not working
[12:16] <kalbs> can i kill the process?
[12:17] <kalbs> .killall command is noe woring
[12:17] <kalbs> .killall command is noe working
[12:17] <kalbs> .killall command is not working
[12:17] <kasim> _alex: do u use rdesktop programm?
[12:18] <kalbs> help pls
[12:18] <bmo> kalbs are you using the pid or are you using the name of the program in your "killall"?
[12:18] <Jucato> kalbs, what do you mean by "not working"?
[12:19] <bmo> killall - use name  kill - use pid
[12:19] <kalbs> bmo: killall
[12:19] <kasim> _alex: try to use prog 'rdesktop' from CLI. That gives you options for your keyboard as parametes
[12:19] <kalbs> jucato: it does nothing, it doesn't open
[12:19] <bmo> like so: killall foo  kill 3452
[12:20] <bmo> killall -r foo*   will get everything starting with foo
[12:20] <bmo> -r = regexp
[12:20] <Jucato> kalbs, try running it from Konsole to see if you get error messages when it doesn't open: "kdesu adept"
[12:20] <_alex> kasim: yes I use this prog ; i ve just installed it
[12:20] <bmo> there are signals you can pass
[12:20] <bmo> kill -9 is "kill kill"
[12:20] <kalbs> no process killed
[12:21] <bmo> kill -9 pid
[12:21] <kasim> _alex: did you see all the options. type 'rdesktop' only
[12:21] <_alex> kasim: I have those options on GUI
[12:21] <Jucato> kalbs, it means that adept probably isn't running
[12:21] <tx> what package do i need to install to have stdio.h ?
[12:22] <kalbs> jucato: ya...it seems that way
[12:22] <tx> i have installed gcc but there ain't nothing in /usr/include/
[12:22] <tx> 'bout gcc
[12:22] <kalbs> :(
[12:22] <bmo> what are you trying to kill, kalbs?
[12:22] <kalbs> what seems to be the problem?>
[12:23] <kalbs> adept manager is not working
[12:23] <kasim> _alex: always easier to start with CLI, and if working use GUI
[12:23] <_alex> kasim: uhm ... I m using french win XP and there is a option : "disable encryption (french TS)" . Could this be that ?
[12:23] <kalbs> it won't start
[12:23] <bmo> why? what is the error?
[12:23] <kasim> ahh
[12:23] <Jucato> kalbs, have you tried running Adept from the command line, like what I asked?
[12:23] <kalbs> jucato: yes
[12:24] <bmo> what does it say when you run adept from the command line
[12:24] <Jucato> kalbs, what error message (near the end) do you get, then?
[12:24] <kalbs> where should i paste it?
[12:24] <bmo> here if it's not too long
[12:25] <jaro>  hello there. A very unpleasant thing happened to me - my disk collapsed and rendered data partition based on reiserfs unusable. reiserfsck is of no use as there are bad blocks which hit the "system area" of the filesystem. I'd like to ask whether there are any chances of getting the data back in such a case?
[12:25] <Jucato> !pastebin
[12:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:25] <kalbs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26987/
[12:25] <kalbs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26987
[12:25] <tx> what packege do i need to install to have the includes that gcc needs , like stdio.h ? gcc is installed but there are no includes in /usr/include
[12:25] <_alex> kasim: I think there is a little bug ... randomly I take away fullscreen mode and I was able to type in ! It works ...
[12:26] <Jucato> kalbs, that's all that you get?
[12:26] <kalbs> yes jucato and asking for password
[12:26] <Jucato> kalbs, and when you enter the password?
[12:27] <_alex> kasim: I used rdesktop -e in a CLI. Then I used the GUI from the KDE menu. Is the "-e" option take effects ? Or does it only open a new instance of the prog ?
[12:27] <kalbs> jucato: nothing, it won't open
[12:27] <kasim> _alex: pls give me the compleate cli line
[12:27] <_alex> kasim: my question is a generic question finally .
[12:27] <Jucato> do you get additional error messages after you give the password?
[12:27] <_alex> kasim: it is complete !
[12:28] <kasim> you must have host at least
[12:28] <_alex> kasim: CLI line was only "rdesktop -e"
[12:28] <Jucato> kalbs, hm.. strange indeed. have you tried restarting KDE (not rebooting)
[12:28] <kasim> rdesktop -e xphost
[12:28] <_alex> kasim: yes of course but ... I told you I then use the GUI from the K-Menu
[12:29] <kalbs> yes i did
[12:29] <kalbs> same
[12:29] <Jucato> ok that is indeed very strange then...
[12:29] <kasim> yes and i told you its per to have written line to debate than some GUI description
[12:30] <_alex> kasim: that is why I wonder if CLI gives a instance and GUI launch another or it is the same so the option '-e' is kept ?
[12:30] <kalbs> i'll try to re start KDE
[12:31] <kasim> i am not sure what "-e" in detail. Sure you can contoll more and precise with CLI. Maybe the "-e" is not passed. Can you look at 'ps aux | grep rdesktop'
[12:31] <dude> jucato: ok
[12:31] <kasim> i mean afte you run the GUI stuff
[12:31] <gemidjy> where do I change OO.org splash screen? In edgy it is the old oo.org default one (it is ugly)
[12:31] <dude> jucato: re started
[12:32] <livingdaylight> anyone here use Opera?
[12:32] <dude> me
[12:32] <_alex> kasim: well full screen bug :\
[12:32] <dude> jucato: what should i do?
[12:32] <livingdaylight> dude: you use the mail client? Its so sluggish here
[12:32] <dude> it's ok
[12:33] <Jucato> dude, huh? are you kalbs?
[12:33] <livingdaylight> dude: composed my first email and its really stalling
[12:33] <dude> yes
[12:33] <dude> sorry
[12:33] <livingdaylight> dude: you got xgl/beryl setup yet?
[12:33] <livingdaylight> kalbs: ?
[12:33] <kalbs> livingdaylight: not yet
[12:33] <kasim> _alex: lets start over, i dont allways understand you. 1. Is 'rdesktop -e xphost' working to your needs?
[12:33] <kalbs> livingdaylight: im afraid
[12:33] <kalbs> livingdaylight: :)
[12:33] <livingdaylight> kalbs: let me know if Opera works fine in XGL/beryl
[12:33] <kalbs> ok
[12:34] <livingdaylight> kalbs: oh, i was too :)
[12:34] <Jucato> kalbs, tried running Adept again? if it still won't start, try rebooting... :(
[12:34] <kalbs> ok
[12:34] <kalbs> same
[12:34] <livingdaylight> i've got this Adept notifier on my taskbar that wont go away!
[12:34] <kalbs> livingdaylight: can u guide me
[12:35] <livingdaylight> on?
[12:35] <kalbs> installing beryl
[12:35] <Jucato> livingdaylight, it won't go away unless you have updated (or turn of the -updates repository)
[12:35] <livingdaylight> kalbs: i believe momal offered to guide you already
[12:35] <kalbs> livingdaylight: ya, but i think he is busy
[12:35] <livingdaylight> Jucato: i have done sudo apt-get updates, and there is nothing to either update or upgrade, so why wont it go away? Didn't used to be an issue
[12:36] <kalbs> jucato: can i re install adept?
[12:36] <livingdaylight> Jucato: i think its just a frozen window is what it looks like
[12:36] <livingdaylight> kalbs: have you installed nvidia and enabled 3d?
[12:36] <kalbs> yes
[12:36] <Jucato> livingdaylight, "sudo apt-get update" only fetches updates. have you done "sudo apt-get upgrade" too?
[12:36] <livingdaylight> kalbs: dude, you've done the hard work, you are nearly home now
[12:37] <Jucato> kalbs, yeah I think so. you can reinstall it. just forgot the apt-get command for it. I know the aptitude command, though: sudo aptitude reinstall adept
[12:37] <livingdaylight> Jucato: yes, that is what i said
[12:37] <livingdaylight> kalbs: i gave you the beryl howto, just follow that, its so easy
[12:37] <bbt> is there a beta nvidia driver .deb package for dapper out there ?
[12:37] <livingdaylight> kalbs: there is #beryl where you can get help
[12:37] <Jucato> hm... have  you tried checking Adept Notifier/Updater to see what packages it thinks it still needs to update
[12:38] <psb154> !nvidia
[12:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:38] <kalbs> livingdaylight: ok, tnx, i have 2 reboot
[12:39] <gemidjy> where do I change OO.org splash screen? In edgy it is the old oo.org default one (it is ugly)
[12:41] <szmoli> hi all
[12:42] <szmoli> i`ve just installed kububtu, i need some help
[12:42] <szmoli> how to install firefox?
[12:42] <dude> jucato: what is the command to re start adept?
[12:42] <Jucato> dude, um... what is it saying? that the database is locked?
[12:43] <dude> jucato: yes
[12:43] <Jucato> dude, "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[12:43] <_alex> kasim: no it does not work :\ I use GUI to launch but Keyboard is not active when XP log window appears. To solve it I must take out "fullscreenmode" and then it works
[12:43] <livingdaylight> anyone know how to make Adept Notifier go away?
[12:44] <_alex> kasim: that s why I think it is a bug
[12:44] <szmoli> which program i have to use to find softwares?
[12:44] <livingdaylight> Have i got a virus or a bug?
[12:44] <dude> jucato: ok
[12:44] <dude> its done
[12:44] <livingdaylight> Is Adept Notifier spyware?
[12:44] <dude> tns
[12:44] <dude> tnx
[12:44] <Jucato> livingdaylight, have you tried checking what packages it's saying that needs updating?
[12:45] <livingdaylight> Jucato: it said no updates available
[12:45] <_alex> kasim: anyway when I reclick "FullScreenMode" it works ...
[12:45] <dude> jucato: i need to install VMware, but i dont weant to use adept
[12:45] <livingdaylight> Jucato: then it freezes. I hit 'close' and nothing happens
[12:45] <Jucato> hm... strange indeed
[12:45] <dude> jucato: i need to install VMware, but i dont want to use adept
[12:45] <Jucato> dude, vmware player?
[12:45] <livingdaylight> dude: sudo apt-get install Synaptic
[12:45] <Jucato> livingdaylight, try this command in Konsole "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[12:46] <Jucato> actually that "sudo apt-get install synaptic" (case sensitive)
[12:46] <dude> jucato: yes
[12:46] <Jucato> but you can install VMWare player using apt-get too, "sudo apt-get install vmware-player"
[12:46] <livingdaylight> Jucato: ok, and now?
[12:46] <livingdaylight> dude: sudo apt-get install synaptic :)
[12:47] <dude> ok, tnx
[12:47] <Jucato> livingdaylight, try Adept Notifier again?
[12:48] <livingdaylight> Jucato: i hit anything on that window, whether 'close' or 'advanced' and dialog comes up saying no updates available and then freezes there
[12:48] <Jucato> livingdaylight, but if you really *really* want Adept Notifier not to start at all, just remove it from /usr/share/autostart (I'd recommend not deleting, but just moving or hiding)
[12:48] <livingdaylight> Jucato: not the dialog, but the adept notifier
[12:48] <Jucato> livingdaylight, I'm presuming you're on Dapper right?
[12:49] <livingdaylight> Jucato: sure
[12:49] <dude> jucato: im getting errors while installing vmware player
[12:49] <Jucato> dude, what errors?
[12:49] <livingdaylight> Jucato: I'll completely remove it if i have to. I just would like it to work properly
[12:49] <_alex> kasim: another big problem : in real full screen mode I am stuck in wondows :\
[12:49] <_alex> I can not go back to Linux :\
[12:49] <dude> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26988
[12:49] <Jucato> livingdaylight, I'm not sure. it might (or might not) be a bug.
[12:50] <livingdaylight> Jucato: is it Linux Spyware?
[12:50] <Jucato> of course not
[12:50] <livingdaylight> ^^
[12:50] <livingdaylight> well, its really bugging me
[12:50] <dude> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26988
[12:51] <Jucato> dude, I've seen it. unfortunately, I'm not familiar with network stuff
[12:51] <dude> so it is about my connection?
[12:52] <ben_> hey guys I'm having trouble getting codecs from automatix, i have installed it but upon opening it says a "key" is missing
[12:52] <Jucato> probably. I'm not sure really
[12:52] <_alex> dude: is your network connexion work ?
[12:52] <dude> alex: what do min?
[12:53] <_alex> dude: What is your prob ? Internet connection ?
[12:53] <dude> alex: no problem with my connection
[12:54] <_alex> dude: well jucato talked about network stuff ... That s why I thought it was a network prob ...
[12:56] <ben_> automatix could not retrieve keys, can someone explain what a key is?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> Jucato: is there a such thing as a mailing list reader?
[12:56] <dude> alex: actually, im downloading vmware, but there are errors
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ben_: i gpg key  can you give the full error please if more than a line or 2 please use pastebin
[12:57] <Ayabara> is wireshark in the kubuntu dapper repos?
[12:57] <Jucato> gnomefreak, mailing list? I'm not sure if Akregator handles that. or maybe KNode. but I'm sure as hell KMail can read mailing lists :P
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Jucato: trying to get them out of my inbox lol
[12:57] <Reik> moin ich habe heute kubuntu installiert und mit synaptic einige tools nachinstalliert, leider werden die nciht im kmenu angezeigt, wie z.b. firefox . Wie bekomme ich das kmenu daszu das diese angezeigt werden oder was tu ich damit dies automatisch geschiet? Also wie automatisiere ich das das wenn ich ein tool installiere das dann automatisch auch im kmenu angezeigt wird?
[12:57] <Jucato> !de
[12:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Reik: /join #ubuntu-de
[12:57] <Reik> danke
[12:57] <gnomefreak> or kubuntu-de oops :(
[12:57] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:58] <Jucato> Ayabara, I don't think so
[12:58] <Reik> thx gnomefreak
[12:58] <gnomefreak> yw Reik :)
[12:58] <Jucato> gnomefreak, out of your webmail inbox?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Jucato: yes :(
[12:58] <ben_> gnomefreak: all i got was an error alert box, what can i type into Konsole to get the full error?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Jucato: i get over 300 emails a day
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ben_: you would have to ask in #automatix
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ben_: its not supported by ubuntu
[12:59] <ben_> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:59] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:59] <Jucato> gnomefreak, ah but you'd still receive those in your e-mail, with or without a mailing list reader
[12:59] <gnomefreak> damn
[12:59] <Jucato> the reader would just get them from your inbox
[12:59] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[01:00] <Jucato> gnomefreak, probably time to unsubscribe from those that you don't really need :)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> if i wasnt admin or monterater of half of them i would
[01:00] <Jucato> how much space do you have in your e-mail account anyway?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> moterater
[01:00] <kasim> _alex: i cant say much to the GUI stuff. Is it a frontend to rdesktop? Most likely? I would use the 'rdesktop' CLI first, with some more than just '-e'. With '-g ..' you can have a Window to your linking
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Jucato: oh alot
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Jucato: its gmail
[01:01] <Jucato> perfect! :)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> Jucato: i have 6 or so gmail boxes lol
[01:01] <Jucato> lol
[01:01] <Jucato> now that's so much space :P
[01:01] <gnomefreak> yes and i have over 6000 emails i have to go through in one of my gmail boxes
[01:02] <Jucato> information overload :P
[01:02] <Jucato> gnomefreak, time to delegate some of the workload/admin/moderating duties then? :P
[01:02] <gnomefreak> Jucato: its a good idea that way you can use it for LP and people know who they are emailing
[01:02] <gnomefreak> Jucato: thought about hat too
[01:02] <gnomefreak> that
[01:03] <Jucato> gnomefreak, unless you want to set aside 1-hour blocks of time each day just to spend reading/browsing them
[01:03] <gnomefreak> i do that now but i dont read every bug digest :(
[01:05] <MHazem> !flash
[01:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:05] <Jucato> gnomefreak, btw, do you think it's just ok if I forward e-mails from my current Gmail account to a new jucato@gmail.com account that I'll be making? that way, I won't have to bother my relatives who know my older account (which is based on my real name)?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Jucato: should be gmail i think has a setting for that in settings menu when you log into your box
[01:06] <gnomefreak> also has auto respond when on vacation :)
[01:06] <Jucato> yeah, it's the only free e-mail service that has POP3 and forwarding support. I just feel like I'm trying to cheat Google. lol
[01:07] <gnomefreak> Jucato: they just spent over 1 billion dollars on youtube i would say cheat away :)
[01:07] <Jucato> lol
[01:07] <Jucato> (down with youtube!! long live Google Videos!!)
[01:08] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:08] <Jucato> hehehe
[01:09] <Jucato> sorry, YouTube doesn't offer you the option to download the video. so that's a big plus for Google Videos. unless of course you're on Windows, then you'd be forced to download them in Google Video Player format :P
[01:11] <gnomefreak> i didnt know about google videos heading to google to find out :)
[01:11] <Jucato> Just for those who'd might be interested in some KDE-related news: Mark Shuttleworth Becomes the First "Patron of KDE" (that's an actual title, and, no, it has nothing to do with "patron saints") http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/
[01:12] <Jucato> gnomefreak, heh. it has fewer videos compared to YouTube and is obviously less popular. but I like it for the download option :)
[01:13] <cpk2> erhm how do you open a .chm? file says MS Windows HtmlHelp Data
[01:14] <Jucato> cpk2, install kchmviewer
[01:14] <Jucato> !kchmviewer
[01:14] <ubotu> kchmviewer: CHM viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3a-1 (dapper), package size 171 kB, installed size 568 kB
[01:14] <cpk2> well thats simple =P
[01:14] <Jucato> :)
[01:15] <wildchild> I can't compile gnash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26985/
[01:15] <Jucato> !gnash
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <wildchild> !xgl
[01:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:24] <dude_> jucato: are you still there?
[01:28] <dbglt> what version of kde does edgy beta use?
[01:28] <abattoir> dbglt: 3.5.5
[01:28] <dude_> jucato: are you still there?
[01:30] <abattoir> dude_: he doesn't seem to be here, you need help with something?
[01:32] <blind_> where / how ca i get temperature and battery status ????
[01:32] <dude_> abattoir: yes, have you tried VMware?
[01:32] <abattoir> dbglt: mm sorry, didnt read your question properly, beta shipped w/ 3.5.4, edgy has 3.5.5 currently
[01:32] <abattoir> blind_: 'acpi' in the command line shows your batt status
[01:32] <abattoir> dude_: yes
[01:32] <dude_> abattoir: i downloaded the package
[01:33] <dude_> abattoir: but i don't know how to use it?
[01:33] <dude_> abattoir: : )
[01:33] <abattoir> blind_: '/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' should show your temp
[01:33] <abattoir> blind_: make that 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' should show your temp
[01:33] <abattoir> dude_: you got vmware player?
[01:34] <dbglt> abattoir: thank you.
[01:34] <dude_> abattoir: yes
[01:34] <mikko> sorry for off-topic, but anyone know good channel for discussing creating intgelligent irc-bot + integrating it with search engine (our own)?
[01:34] <abattoir> dude_: you downloaded it from the vmware site, or from the repo?
[01:35] <dude_> abattoir: from the repo
[01:35] <abattoir> mikko: i think #suppybot , not very sure though
[01:35] <dbglt> is a seperate kubuntu repository needed?
[01:35] <mikko> abattoir: thanks!
[01:35] <dbglt> I'm just going to replace all instances of dapper with edgy in my sources/list
[01:35] <dbglt> (to update to edgy)
[01:36] <abattoir> dude_: ok, when installing the package, you weren't prompted to set it up?
[01:36] <abattoir> dude_: or did you manually download it?
[01:36] <abattoir> !upgrade
[01:36] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:36] <abattoir> dbglt: ^^^ follow the instructions for dapper->edgy
[01:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hello? i have an acer TM803LCi with centrino 1.6GHz, i am experiencing with kubuntu last version + backports problems with klaptop, particularly the only cpu power management profile that is active is "userspace" and when i klaptop i select another one neither the cpu freq profile or the selection inside klaptop changes... could you help me?
[01:38] <dude_> abattoir: actually, i don't know if it install
[01:38] <abattoir> dude_: what did you do exactly?
[01:39] <dude_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26988
[01:39] <dude_> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26988
[01:40] <abattoir> dude_: try 'sudo apt-get -f install' , see if the same error message comes again...
[01:41] <debianman> KELLE
[01:43] <dude_> abattoir: same error i guess http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26991
[01:44] <abattoir> dude_: try 'sudo modprobe vmnet' and then 'sudo apt-get -f install' ...
[01:45] <abattoir> dude_: just tell me if it says something like Module not found, no need to paste it
[01:45] <dude_> abattoir: FATAL: Module vmnet not found.
[01:45] <dude_> abattoir: maybe i should download the whole package in the site
[01:45] <abattoir> it fails when setting up networking
[01:45] <dude_> ok
[01:45] <dude_> sorry
[01:46] <abattoir> no, i dont think that's the issue..
[01:46] <dude_> abattoir: so whats the issue?
[01:47] <abattoir> try running 'sudo vmware-config.pl'
[01:47] <bmo> error message of the day that's actually good, from the game trackballs (/usr/games/trackballs) Warning: too fast framerate
[01:47] <abattoir> that would run the configuration process again, and hopefully setup your networking properly
[01:47] <dude_> command not found
[01:49] <dude_> abattoir: i quit :)
[01:50] <abattoir> dude_: heh, so easily? :P
[01:51] <dude_> abattoir: i can;t get it working
[01:51] <abattoir> dude_: can you check if /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl exists?
[01:51] <dude_> no such file
[01:51] <abattoir> vmware has always been a pain for me, so i always use qemu... :P
[01:52] <abattoir> dude_: did you apt-get the file? or are you using dpkg -i manually?
[01:52] <dude_> what is qemu?
[01:52] <abattoir> !qemu
[01:52] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:52] <abattoir> dude_: its like vmware, but slower(even w/ kqemu)...
[01:53] <abattoir> dude_: but i guess the perfomance depends on your setup too
[01:53] <dude_> abattoir: you mean to say, vmware is faster ?
[01:53] <jende> cpk2: good day
[01:53] <abattoir> dude_: yes, relatively
[01:54] <cpk2> jende: day? just finished my work, going to sleep =(
[01:54] <neoj> vmware is a lot faster for me
[01:54] <akolyt> hello
[01:54] <neoj> (even with kqemu)
[01:54] <jende> cpk2: yep day...it's almost 2pm here
[01:54] <dude_> abattoir: ok...can we install it step by step? i downloaded the whole package on the site
[01:55] <abattoir> dude_: vmware?
[01:55] <dude_> abattoir:yes
[01:55] <abattoir> dude_: you need to tell me exactly what you did
[01:55] <abattoir> dude_: from which site?
[01:55] <abattoir> dude_: what package? how are you installing it
[01:56] <dude_> ok
[01:56] <dude_> wait
[01:56] <jende> zen2: Hi Buddy!How are ya?
[01:56] <dude_> the 36 MB package
[01:57] <_alex> Hi jende
[01:57] <jende> _alex: hi _alex
[01:58] <flopethedope> hey can anybody help me out for a minute?
[01:58] <dude_> abattoir: extracted
[01:59] <abattoir> dude_: ok, so you you were using the tar version?
[01:59] <dude_> abattoir: extracted in temp directory
[01:59] <_alex> Is there a tool to drive ventirad rpm like a windows tool called "CPU ...". I can t remeber the name :\
[01:59] <flopethedope> i've installed KDE on top of gnome but it doesn't let me choose KDE from my login options
[01:59] <flopethedope> anybody?
[01:59] <abattoir> dude_: run 'sudo vmware-install.pl' (or installer, don't remember that well) inside the dir.
[02:00] <jende> flopethedope: what do you mean? So you start the Box and when it comes to the login you can't choose?
[02:00] <flopethedope> yeah
[02:00] <dude_> abattoir: A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[02:01] <flopethedope> right now i'm using gnome and when i go to logoff user and then click options and then select session, KDE doesn't appear in the list
[02:01] <abattoir> dude_: Dude, tell me what you did exactly!!!
[02:01] <jende> flopethedope: which kubuntu version are you running?
[02:01] <abattoir> dude_: the first time, did you install the deb?
[02:01] <dude_> abattoir: yes, the one you said a while ago
[02:02] <_alex> Well the tool is called speedfan ... I need it to slow a ventirad.
[02:02] <_alex> jende: Do you know such a tool ?
[02:02] <flopethedope> i'm not exactly sure? i did aptitude install kubuntu-desktop :/
[02:02] <abattoir> dude_: well, its partially installed, so you either need to complete the installation or remove it
[02:02] <flopethedope> i'm assuming that it downloaded the latest
[02:02] <dude_> abattoir: how
[02:02] <dude_> ?
[02:02] <jende> flopethedope: wrong answer
[02:02] <flopethedope> :P
[02:02] <jende> flopethedope: are you on Dapper on etdgy on Breezy?
[02:02] <flopethedope> dapper
[02:03] <jende> flopethedope: hold on a sec have to grab that ut of my brain ;-)
[02:03] <abattoir> dude_: try 'sudo apt-get remove vmware-player'
[02:03] <flopethedope> sure thing
[02:03] <jende> _alex: yeah, there is something similar
[02:03] <abattoir> dude_: if it complains again, try 'sudo dpkg-configure -a'
[02:03] <abattoir> dude_: if it still complains... ugh
[02:03] <flopethedope> jende: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[02:03] <flopethedope> that's the guide i followed to install it
[02:03] <flopethedope> if that helps any
[02:04] <jende> _alex: just wait as well I might have a link for ya
[02:04] <_alex> jende: yeah ... thanks
[02:07] <akolyt> Can I upgrade kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake to 6.10 Edgy ?
[02:07] <dude_> abattoir: removed
[02:07] <ebees> msg nickserv set hide email on
[02:07] <abattoir> dude_: ok, now try running ./vmware-installer.pl
[02:07] <abattoir> dude_: inside the dir. of course
[02:07] <gemidjy> with last dist-upgrade of edgy I get this: Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN2> line 4.
[02:07] <abattoir> akolyt: sure
[02:07] <jende> _alex: if I did get you right, you need a tool to manage the vent of the proc, am I right?
[02:07] <abattoir> !upgrade
[02:07] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:07] <gemidjy> anyone else does?
[02:07] <abattoir> akolyt: ^^^^follow the instructions there
[02:07] <akolyt> thx
[02:08] <vge> how mutch broken is edgy?
[02:08] <jende> flopethedope: what happen when your on gnome and if you go onto a terminal start KDE from there?
[02:08] <jende> vge: I wouldn't say its broken at all
[02:08] <flopethedope> i don't know how to go about doing that
[02:09] <ebees> Hi all, are there any Ekiga users online at the moment?
[02:09] <jende> flopethedope: open a terminal using ALT+F2
[02:09] <flopethedope> i'm rather new to linux alltogether, trying to check out different environments, os', etc
[02:09] <gemidjy> how can I use upstart in Edgy?
[02:10] <jende> flopethedope: done that?
[02:10] <flopethedope> aye
[02:10] <dude_> wahhhhhhhhhh
[02:10] <jende> flopethedope: now type: sudo kdm
[02:10] <|Mikael|> is there any repo search engine online?
[02:10] <|Mikael|> like on gentoo (gentoo-packages.com)?
[02:11] <jende> |Mikael|: Hi Mikael
[02:11] <flopethedope> says command not found
[02:11] <abattoir> |Mikael|: pakcages.ubuntu.com ?
[02:11] <vge> jende: soo, if ai update to it, i should not need to spend that meny days fixing? ;)
[02:11] <|Mikael|> nice! abattoir thx
[02:11] <jende> vge: nope
[02:11] <vge> k, ty
[02:11] <|Mikael|> jende: hi :)
[02:11] <flopethedope> i don't get it, i can use konqueror which installed with the package but this doesn't show up
[02:12] <jende> flopethedope: konqueror has got nothing to do with it
[02:12] <flopethedope> okay
[02:12] <dude_> waaaahhhhhhh.................
[02:12] <jende> |Mikael|: how are ya
[02:12] <|Mikael|> jende: tired ;)
[02:12] <Jucato> |Mikael|, you can also try typing "apt:/" in Konqueror
[02:13] <jende> |Mikael|: come on... ;-)
[02:13] <abattoir> dude_: Jucato's back ;)
[02:13] <|Mikael|> Jucato: nice trick :>
[02:13] <|Mikael|> jende: how you're doin'?
[02:13] <jende> flopethedope: I'll be back in a minute, will just check on a dapper machine how to set yu up for KDE
[02:13] <flopethedope> alright, thanks
[02:13] <flopethedope> i'll be here
[02:13] <jende> |Mikael|: quite alright
[02:14] <jende> |Mikael|: will be back in aminute
[02:14] <|Mikael|> jende: np
[02:14] <dude_> abattoir: A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[02:15] <abattoir> dude_: hmm, i thought you removed it....
[02:15] <dude_> abattoir: why is that
[02:15] <abattoir> dude_: you got any error messages w/ that apt-get remove command?
[02:15] <dude_> abattoir: Package vmware-player is not installed, so not removed
[02:16] <abattoir> dude_: try 'sudo apt-get install vmware-player' again
[02:17] <esas> can i get some help???
[02:18] <dude_> abattoir: failed
[02:18] <abattoir> dude_: at the same step?
[02:18] <ebees> Hi esas, what sort of help do you need?
[02:19] <esas> what do you need for an apache server?
[02:19] <dude_> abattoir: yes
[02:19] <dude_> abattoir: same error
[02:19] <dude_> abattoir: connection error
[02:19] <dude_> abattoir: i guess
[02:19] <ebees> oh, good question but unfortunately way past my level of knowledge...
[02:19] <abattoir> dude_: try not setting up vmnet at this time...
[02:19] <esas> i installed kubuntu and i need to start an apache server, i dont know how to do that...
[02:19] <ebees> I can tell you that the packages are available on the repos
[02:19] <abattoir> !lamp
[02:19] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[02:20] <abattoir> esas: ^^^^
[02:20] <vge> hmm, can i get the edgy from repos?
[02:20] <ebees> and that if you are going to install on a machine that will be a server that you should install only the server edition
[02:20] <esas> thanks, but i have kubuntu,...
[02:20] <esas> is it the same???
[02:20] <ebees> then apt-get the info
[02:20] <ebees> Sorry, I'm not quite clear what you mean?
[02:21] <abattoir> vge: you want to upgrade to edgy?
[02:21] <ebees> Oh, hang on. do you mean that you have the Kubuntu disk
[02:21] <ebees> ?
[02:21] <esas> yes, i downloaded it and then installed it
[02:22] <ebees> oh, okay. Are you wanting this machine to be both a workstation and a server?
[02:22] <esas> yes
[02:22] <dude_> abattoir: tnx, i quit.... : (
[02:22] <abattoir> dude_: :(
[02:22] <abattoir> dude_: could you pastebin that error message again?
[02:22] <dude_> abattoir: have you tried beryl?
[02:22] <ebees> Okay, hang on a sec
[02:23] <abattoir> dude_: maybe Jucato has seen it before
[02:23] <abattoir> dude_: nope
[02:23] <Jucato> what have I seen before? :P
[02:23] <ebees> check this out
[02:23] <dude_> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26992
[02:23] <ebees> http://ubuntuguide.org/index.php?title=Ubuntu_dapper&redirect=no
[02:23] <abattoir> Jucato: ^^^^
[02:24] <Jucato> ah yes
[02:24] <Jucato> and like I said before, I'm clueless
[02:24] <ebees> If you look further down the page (or, if using Firefox, hit ctrl+f and type server) you'll find the server options
[02:24] <abattoir> Jucato: oh so he had this problem before?
[02:24] <ebees> This might help you to get an idea of what you need to do
[02:24] <Jucato> he asked me about it earlier. (few hours ago)
[02:25] <flopethedope> any luck jende?
[02:25] <dude_> abattoir: so what seem to be the problem? is it my connection?
[02:26] <abattoir> dude_: during vmware-config, vmnet is not being loaded/setup properly, this caused dpkg to quit and hence leave the package 'half installed'
[02:26] <ebees> Hey esas, you still with us?
[02:26] <esas> yep, thanks
[02:26] <dude_> ok
[02:27] <esas> say, are you english or so???
[02:27] <dude_> abattoir: what causing the dpkg to quit?
[02:27] <jende> flopethedope: yep
[02:27] <abattoir> dude_: vmware quitting
[02:27] <ebees> I'm in Sydney, Australia
[02:27] <esas> o
[02:27] <abattoir> dude_: w/o finishing what it is supposed to finish
[02:27] <jende> flopethedope: you should have the ability to change the session riht at the start
[02:27] <ebees> Though I'm not Australian, they do speak a version of English here :)
[02:27] <esas> well, i'm in Antwerp, Belgium
[02:27] <jende> ...right at the...
[02:28] <ebees> Well, your English is better than my Flemish OR French :))
[02:28] <jende> ebees: have a VB for me
[02:28] <ebees> Jende :)
[02:28] <_alex> jende: I need a tool to manage all the vent.
[02:28] <dude_> abattoir: i use adept a while ago and it didn't finish the installation, it stucks at 45%
[02:28] <flopethedope> yeah i should but it isn't showing up, which is what i don't understand
[02:28] <esas> flemish
[02:28] <flopethedope> i didn't have any errors or anything during the install so i'm dumbfounded
[02:29] <ebees> Ahhhh, well, there you go... I know NO Flemish at all.
[02:29] <ebees>  :)
[02:29] <jende> flopethedope: go onto the console with ALT+F2
[02:29] <abattoir> dude_: adept does not handle interactivity in a terminal, so for packages which need user input(like flash, java, vmware etc.) during installation, please DO NOT use adept, use the command line instead
[02:29] <esas> :)
[02:29] <ebees> If you read through that info and then have a bit of a browse on the Ubuntu forum you're sure to find a lot of info
[02:29] <jende> flopethedope: then type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <jende> flopethedope: then type sudo apt-get install kde*
[02:30] <ebees> I'd suggest having a read and then getting back on IRC and see if anyone has any particular experience
[02:30] <flopethedope> should i just do kde rather than kubuntu-desktop?
[02:30] <ebees> Is there a LUG in Belgium?
[02:30] <dude_> abattoir: oh ok...my mistake, so what should i do
[02:30] <esas> LUG?????
[02:30] <jende> flopethedope: nope you shoould do both!!!
[02:31] <ebees> Linux User Group
[02:31] <flopethedope> ahh
[02:31] <abattoir> dude_: generally, quitting adept, and running 'sudo apt-get -f install' in a terminal fixes it
[02:31] <ebees> My local is SLUG :) Sydney Linux User Group
[02:31] <ebees> Supposedly (in)famous :)
[02:31] <|Mikael|> what is sudo for kde?
[02:31] <|Mikael|> kdesuo?
[02:31] <|Mikael|> i don't find the right spelling
[02:31] <flopethedope> hrm
[02:31] <dude_> abattoir: can we start all over again?
[02:31] <abattoir> |Mikael|: kdesu
[02:31] <flopethedope> jende: it says package not available
[02:31] <|Mikael|> abattoir: thx
[02:31] <abattoir> dude_: lol
[02:32] <esas> like in #kubuntu-nl ??????
[02:32] <ebees> That's an IRC channel I'd say.
[02:32] <abattoir> dude_: sure ;)
[02:32] <flopethedope> i'm assuming that means my sources.list sucks? :P
[02:32] <jende> flopethedope: which package is not available?
[02:32] <flopethedope> kde
[02:33] <jende> flopethedope: hold on
[02:33] <ebees> mmmmmmm... a LUG is a user group that has a mailing list (usually) and they meet face to face, usually, though not always, at least once a month
[02:33] <flopethedope> i already installed the kubuntu-desktop and it went smooth as can be
[02:33] <dude_> abattoir: tnx
[02:33] <flopethedope> but i used aptitude rather than apt-get, if that matters any
[02:33] <esas> ???
[02:33] <ebees> Ah ha... here you go
[02:33] <ebees> http://www.belgian-lugs.be/
[02:33] <dude_> abattoir: ok
[02:34] <ebees> a list of Belgian Linux User Groups!
[02:34] <dude_> abattoir: first command
[02:34] <jende> flopethedope: type sudo apt-cache policy kde
[02:34] <abattoir> dude_: sudo apt-get --purge remove vmware-player
[02:34] <jende> flopethedope: just do it the way I'm telling ya, would be nice
[02:34] <flopethedope> sure thing
[02:34] <flopethedope> kde:
[02:34] <flopethedope>   Installed: (none)
[02:34] <flopethedope>   Candidate: (none)
[02:34] <flopethedope>   Version table:
[02:35] <Jucato> !pastebin
[02:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:35] <jende> flopethedope: then type sudo apt-get install kde
[02:35] <ebees> There are two in the Antwerp area
[02:35] <ebees> 1. http://www.nokelu.be/
[02:35] <esas> i see
[02:35] <esas> thx
[02:35] <ebees> 2. http://www.l4l.be/
[02:35] <flopethedope> still says not available
[02:35] <dude_> abattoir: why is it that i still have vmware player in my ultilities and it is running
[02:35] <jende> flopethedope: type whoami
[02:35] <jende> flopethedope: what is the output
[02:36] <ebees> No probs. If you join one, there should be people who can provide assistance with what you need.
[02:36] <flopethedope> just says my username
[02:36] <abattoir> dude_: how do you know 'its running' ?
[02:36] <ebees> You can join any LUG usually
[02:36] <jende> have you always typed sudo
[02:36] <ebees> Are you new to Linux?
[02:36] <jende> flopethedope: andd then the command?
[02:36] <dude_> abattoir: i checked, i click the the application and it runs
[02:36] <Jucato> flopethedope, make sure that "universe" is enabled in your sources.list
[02:36] <Jucato> !info kde
[02:36] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[02:37] <dude_> abattoir: ok
[02:37] <ebees> Esas, you still reading?
[02:37] <ebees> :)
[02:37] <esas> yep and yep, but i was busy
[02:37] <esas> :)
[02:37] <jende> flopethedope: do you know how to modify a file on linux using the editor vi?
[02:37] <abattoir> dude_: ok, run 'sudo vmware-uninstall.pl'
[02:38] <flopethedope> i prefer pico, but yes
[02:38] <abattoir> dude_: and *close* all instances of vmware already running
[02:38] <jende> flopethedope: so you know also the # and its meaning?
[02:38] <ebees> No probs
[02:38] <dude_> abattoir: ok done
[02:38] <flopethedope> sorta
[02:38] <esas> idd
[02:39] <abattoir> dude_: did it say something like uninstalled successfully?
[02:39] <ebees> idd???
[02:39] <jende> flopethedope: if so, type on the console sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:39] <ebees> what is that
[02:39] <ebees> ?
[02:39] <Jucato> !repositories
[02:39] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:39] <livingdaylight> dude_:  are you dude? or kalbs?
[02:39] <Jucato> flopethedope, read up on that ^^^^
[02:39] <dude_> living: both
[02:39] <dude_> :)
[02:39] <dude_> 1 person
[02:39] <livingdaylight> dude_: wow, the holy trinity
[02:40] <flopethedope> i went to http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic last night to update my sources.list
[02:40] <livingdaylight> dude_: have you mustered sufficient courage and setup XGL/Beryl?
[02:40] <esas> o, sorry,     in dutch it would be like indeed
[02:41] <jende> flopethedope: that doesn't help
[02:41] <jende> flopethedope: would you mind starting the vi the way I just told you?
[02:41] <dude_> living: not yet...still afraid hehehe
[02:41] <flopethedope> yeah it's already open
[02:41] <jende> flopethedope: thats god, though
[02:42] <jende> flopethedope: there are a few lines with a # as the first character and only those lines in which it says universe muktiverse need to be modified. To modify you have to press the INSERT key
[02:42] <ebees> Hey esas, as you're new :) if you wish to you can email me directly. I'm happy to help out
[02:43] <flopethedope> yep i see them
[02:43] <jende> ebees: can you mail me a schooner?
[02:43] <dude_> abattoir: ok...
[02:43] <dude_> ur command master
[02:43] <ebees> one handed at the moment - baby duty
[02:43] <dude_> :)
[02:43] <ebees> :)
[02:43] <abattoir> dude_: what happened?
[02:43] <abattoir> dude_: got it installed?
[02:43] <jende> flopethedope: delete the hashes
[02:43] <abattoir> (please say yes :( )
[02:43] <abattoir> :P
[02:44] <ebees> dcc me and i'll give you my email add
[02:44] <dude_> abattoir: not yet, still waiting 4 your command
[02:44] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I add something to the sudoers list?
[02:45] <_Shade_> does anyone know how can i play my rmvb movies using kaffeine?
[02:45] <flopethedope> jende: what hashes?
[02:45] <abattoir> dude_: what was the last command i issued? ;)
[02:45] <esas> dcc??? what is that???
[02:45] <Jucato> lol
[02:45] <jende> flopethedope: I will post mine to pastebin, so that might help you
[02:45] <dude_> abattoir: not yet, uninstall
[02:45] <Jucato> _Shade_, if you have libxine-extracodecs installed, that would cover rmvb, afaik
[02:45] <dude_> abattoir:  uninstall
[02:45] <Jucato> _Shade_, if not, you might also need the w32codecs
[02:45] <abattoir> dude_: you ran uninstall?
[02:45] <abattoir> dude_: or was that file not present?
[02:46] <flopethedope> alright, because there's a bunch of hashes in mine :P
[02:46] <dude_> abattoir:  removed
[02:46] <dude_> abattoir:  :)
[02:46] <dude_> abattoir:  all clear
[02:46] <ebees> :) direct contact chat
[02:46] <_Shade_> Jucato: it doesn't on dapper, but now I am on edgy. Let me see
[02:46] <abattoir> dude_: ok, go into the folder, and run vmware-installer, prefix sudo ofcourse
[02:46] <livingdaylight> dude_: do not ignore me
[02:46] <letalis> where is the repository list kept for adept and dpkg in general, i wanted to migrate it to a chroot
[02:46] <dude_> living: not yet...still afraid hehehe
[02:46] <Jucato> _Shade_, it does on Dapper. I was speaking from experience. (or from memory)
[02:47] <livingdaylight> dude_: i will come down with a vengeance, Bwuahahaha
[02:47] <Jucato> letalis, /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:47] <letalis> cool thanks Jucato
[02:47] <dude_> abattoir:  so you mean to  say to extract the file again
[02:47] <dude_> ?
[02:47] <dude_> ok
[02:48] <_Shade_> Jucato: what about video CDs?
[02:48] <abattoir> dude_: yup, extract it, go into the dir. and then run the installer script
[02:49] <Jucato> _Shade_: just the same, AFAIK
[02:49] <Jucato> I can play VCD's and Video DVD's with Kaffeine
[02:49] <dude_> ok
[02:49] <dude_> ok
[02:50] <_Shade_> Jucato: YEAH! it works! really it doesn't in dapper :)
[02:51] <Jucato> _Shade_: then I'm clueless as to why it worked for me on Dapper
[02:51] <DjDarkman_> hy ,how can I add something to the sudoers list?
[02:51] <ebees> hey esas, it's late here so I have to go.
[02:51] <esas> bye
[02:51] <abattoir> DjDarkman_: you want to give someone admin privileges?
[02:51] <abattoir> DjDarkman_: what do you exactly want to do?
[02:51] <DjDarkman_> abattoir: I want to make all users be able to run wondershaper
[02:52] <ebees> My best advice is to join one of the LUGs (or more). There is a great international one at WFTL-LUG
[02:52] <esas> ok
[02:52] <DjDarkman_> because I don`t like typing passwords when I limit my connection
[02:52] <ebees> http://www.marcelgagne.com/wftl-lug.html
[02:52] <abattoir> DjDarkman_: ok, sudo visudo should let you edit that file, and add what you want to add, but be very very careful, doing something wrong there might make your system unusable
[02:53] <ebees> A French-Canadian called Marcel Gagne, who's written a couple of books and has a column in Linux Format (I think) and appears on television and radio in Canada and the USA.
[02:53] <DjDarkman_> yes but how do I add a program to it abattoir ,I forgot the syntax?
[02:53] <ebees> I'm a member there. It's a great group.
[02:54] <ebees> I hope I've been of some help.
[02:54] <abattoir> DjDarkman_: not sure of it either, try man sudoers
[02:54] <ebees> Have a good day over there
[02:54] <ebees> bye
[02:54] <_Shade_> Jucato: there's another issue anyways: when I start the movie, it asks whether I'd like to watch it or scene selection... I do not know however how do i control the menu?
[02:54] <dude_> abattoir:  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected. <---- again ???
[02:54] <jende> !pastebin
[02:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:54] <abattoir> dude_: omg...
[02:54] <abattoir> dude_: i quit :P
[02:54] <Jucato> _Shade_: with the mouse, afaik
[02:54] <abattoir> dude_: ok, try restarting
[02:54] <dude_> ok
[02:55] <_Shade_> Jucato: so it doesn't work for me
[02:55] <abattoir> dude_: probably a few modules have been loaded(and hope they aren't reloaded when you restart :P )
[02:55] <Jucato> hm...
[02:55] <jende> flopethedope: are you there
[02:55] <flopethedope> sure am
[02:55] <jende> flopethedope: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26995/ thats my file;
[02:56] <jende> flopethedope: sorry it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26996/
[02:57] <jende> flopethedope: from line 39 til the end is the instruction from me to you how to go ahead
[02:57] <_alex> jende: did ou have a link for that tool that i can manage all vent ?
[02:57] <flopethedope> it's already like that
[02:58] <esas> omg
[02:58] <flopethedope> the only difference in our universe lines are mine says us.archive.ubuntu and yours is dk.archive.ubuntu
[02:58] <jende> have you saved it properly?
[02:58] <jende> flopethedope: taht doesn't bother
[02:58] <flopethedope> and where yours says edgy mine says dapper
[02:58] <flopethedope> well i saved it with pico last night
[02:58] <flopethedope> i've used pico for quite some time now and it's always saved things fine, unless there's something i don't know about saving properly?
[02:59] <jende> flopethedope: make this: sudo apt-get clean
[02:59] <flopethedope> hmm, did that do anything?
[03:00] <flopethedope> it asked for my pw then just went back to the cmdline
[03:00] <jende> flopethedope: and then sudo apt-get -f install to see if all packages are fine and all dependecies are met
[03:00] <flopethedope> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 195 not upgraded.
[03:00] <jende> after that say sudo apt-get install kde
[03:01] <flopethedope> same as before, package not available
[03:01] <flopethedope> E: Package kde has no installation candidate
[03:02] <emonkey-p> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:02] <jende> emonkey-p: he did that, but he hasn't got kde
[03:02] <emonkey-p> hmmm...
[03:03] <jende> emonkey-p: wouldn't you say that a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist might solve it?
[03:03] <jende> emonkey-p: wouldn't you say that a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade might solve it?
[03:03] <emonkey-p> dist-upgrade
[03:03] <jende> emonkey-p: yep ;-)
[03:03] <emonkey-p> maybe it does
[03:04] <jende> flopethedope: so do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get sidt-upgrade
[03:04] <jende> flopethedope: so do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:05] <flopethedope> lol so when i do apt-get update, at the end of it it tells me that i should run apt-get update to correct something
[03:05] <flopethedope> sorta seems redundant
[03:05] <flopethedope> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[03:06] <jende> !GPG
[03:06] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[03:06] <flopethedope> should i go ahead and dist-upgrade now?
[03:06] <flopethedope> or should that be resolved first
[03:06] <jende> flopethedope: resolve that first
[03:07] <jende> flopethedope: see the link to the gpg howto?
[03:07] <flopethedope> yeah i'm looking at it, was about to apt-get install gpa
[03:08] <Jucato> flopethedope: actually you just need to add Riddell's GPG key, which source-o-matic does not do automatically
[03:08] <jende> flopethedope: follow the instructions precisely
[03:08] <flopethedope> alright
[03:08] <Jucato> jende: actually there's no need for him to do that
[03:08] <moo> Hey :)
[03:09] <jende> Jucato: arrrrgh...you're right, but doesn't do anything bad to him
[03:09] <Jucato> flopethedope: follow the first two commands in this page: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[03:10] <flopethedope> alriht
[03:10] <moo> ive mounted an NTFS hdd... when i'd open it, i get "Can't open /mnt"
[03:10] <Jucato> flopethedope: the "wget" command and the "apt-key" command
[03:10] <moo> someone knows why?
[03:10] <flopethedope> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[03:11] <flopethedope> that happens after the apt-get
[03:13] <Jucato> flopethedope: you downloaded the .gpg key before you used apt-key?
[03:13] <flopethedope> yep
[03:14] <flopethedope> does it matter where i downloaded it to, because i'm in my home folder
[03:14] <Jucato> flopethedope: well, you should do the apt-key command in the folder where you downloaded it to
[03:14] <flopethedope> yeah i did
[03:15] <Jucato> ok then. you're good to go :)
[03:16] <flopethedope> hmm i just tried it again and it said OK this time instead of no trusted keys found
[03:16] <flopethedope> progress!
[03:16] <flopethedope> now should i do another sudo apt-get install kde?
[03:17] <flopethedope> err, i mean upgrade and then dist-upgrade?
[03:17] <flopethedope> *update and dist-upgrade
[03:19] <flopethedope> dunno but it's downloading an assload of things
[03:19] <flopethedope> :P
[03:19] <Jucato> oh...
[03:19] <flopethedope> i had like 195 things to update
[03:20] <Jucato> dunno + downloading an assload of things = not a good combo :)
[03:20] <flopethedope> haha
[03:20] <thompa> hey, do i need "user or users in fstab for permissions?
[03:21] <thompa> i have to mount my 2nd hard drive with sudo at reboot
[03:22] <jende> flopethedope: thats normal
[03:23] <jende> flopethedope: now type sudo apt-cache policy kde
[03:24] <flopethedope> okay well it's still doing its thing
[03:24] <jende> flopethedope: cool ;-)
[03:24] <flopethedope> Fetched 244MB in 5m14s (775kB/s) :D
[03:24] <jende> flopethedope: I'll grab me a coffe
[03:24] <flopethedope> i had a lot to download
[03:24] <flopethedope> yeah i'm gonna go smoke a cig right quick
[03:24] <flopethedope> brb
[03:24] <jende> flopethedope: yep
[03:24] <esas> #kubuntu-nl
[03:28] <impatx> hi
[03:28] <impatx> i'm trying to install kubuntu 6.06
[03:29] <jende> impatx: and whats the prob?
[03:29] <impatx> on a p3 450 MHz computer
[03:29] <esas> what's then problem
[03:29] <esas> *the
[03:29] <impatx> is working already for about 3 hour and
[03:29] <thompa> why does fstab have "user" for cdrom permission, when i am part of "users"?
[03:29] <esas> and...
[03:29] <jende> impatx: and???
[03:30] <stanleyds> just how in the world to you find out how much free space you have left on your hd?
[03:30] <impatx> i don't know isf is still installing or  is blcked
[03:30] <jende> stanleyds: df is your fried
[03:30] <thompa> stanleyds: disk usage analyzer
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> [OT] : guys, do you know any website where i can see the user rated movies that came out this september?
[03:30] <impatx> is not responding
[03:30] <esas> losers
[03:31] <impatx> mouse and keyboard
[03:31] <stanleyds> a full blown program just to find out how much space is used up?
[03:31] <visik7> kubuntu edgy beta 1 crash on install
[03:31] <Jucato> stanleyds: df and dh for the command line, Filelight for GUI
[03:31] <visik7> on my asus V6J
[03:31] <jende> stanleyds: use df on a console
[03:31] <stanleyds> ahhh.
[03:31] <stanleyds> cool
[03:31] <stanleyds> thank you
[03:31] <pedro> Hey! Good afternoon
[03:31] <pedro> I am trying to solve a problem
[03:32] <pedro> but I need some help because I am a little newbie
[03:32] <jende> stanleyds: you're welcome
[03:32] <pedro> I am using ntfs-3g to mount a ntfs partition
[03:32] <Hawkwind> pedro: What's the problem ?
[03:32] <jende> Hawkwind: heydo ;-)
[03:32] <pedro> the point is that the line that I use (I founded it on the net) mount with utf8
[03:33] <pedro> and my code is iso8859-1
[03:33] <Hawkwind> Hey there jende
[03:33] <pedro> so I cannot see accents and other lettlers
[03:33] <Jucato> Hawkwind!! :)
[03:33] <Hawkwind> pedro: Ah, I can't help ya there.  I haven't touched Windows in 5 years and I plan on keeping it that way :)
[03:33] <Hawkwind> Jucato !! :P
[03:33] <pedro> the options that I have in fstab are...
[03:34] <pedro> silent,umask=0,no_def_opts,allow_other,locale=es_ES.utf8
[03:34] <pedro> what do I have to change in order to get iso8859-1
[03:34] <pedro> ?
[03:34] <Jucato> Hawkwind: no stumbling out of bed today?
[03:35] <ibug> hi all
[03:35] <jende> flopethedope: are you back?
[03:35] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hah nope not today.  We're getting floods here unfortunately
[03:35] <Jucato> oh that's bad...
[03:35] <Linux_Galore_> hmm W, Wi Windows, I think I remember that OS, for some reason my brain suppresses the time I used it, but be bad memories
[03:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !offtopic
[03:36] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:36] <ibug> Can i use "Alt+Shift" for changing group key on kde ?
[03:36] <jende> Hawkwind: doesn't sound like lots of fun though
[03:36] <Linux_Galore_> s/but/must/
[03:36] <flopethedope> jende: okay i'm back but it's still doing it's thing
[03:36] <Hawkwind> Nope.  We got some very severe storms last night.  Liz barely made it to work this morning
[03:36] <jende> flopethedope: that sounds brill
[03:37] <jende> Hawkwind: where about's are ya
[03:37] <jende> =?
[03:37] <Hawkwind> jende: Houston, Texas
[03:37] <esas> o, somebody wants to help me???
[03:38] <Hawkwind> esas: With ?
[03:38] <jende> esas: doing what?
[03:38] <esas> if i want to enter my password for, let's say, adept, then it says
[03:38] <esas> conversation with su failed
[03:39] <Hawkwind> esas: Dapper or Edgy ?
[03:39] <esas> kubuntu
[03:39] <jende> esas: lol
[03:39] <Hawkwind> esas: Right, but Dapper or Edgy ?
[03:39] <esas> dapper drake???
[03:39] <Hawkwind> esas: How did you open adept ?
[03:39] <Linux_Galore_> esas: Kubuntu has different names for the releases
[03:40] <esas> start: system: adept(package manager)
[03:40] <Hawkwind> esas: From a terminal try either: sudo adept or try: kdesu adept.  Preferably the first one
[03:40] <Linux_Galore_> esas: 6.06 = Dapper  6.10 = Edgy
[03:40] <Jucato> we have a "Start" button? *gasps*
[03:40] <esas> omfg
[03:41] <jende> Jucato: seems to be so, at least esas says so
[03:41] <esas> first a gigantic list, but bthen it starts
[03:41] <Linux_Galore_> esas: list means nothing
[03:41] <Jucato> heh :)
[03:41] <esas> thx
[03:42] <Hawkwind> esas: So all good now ?
[03:42] <esas> yep, thx very much
[03:42] <Linux_Galore_> I found the same sometimes adept wont start via Menu->system
[03:42] <Hawkwind> You're very welcome :)
[03:42] <Jucato> Linux_Galore_: same here. at least in Dapper
[03:42] <Linux_Galore_> in Dapper
[03:43] <Linux_Galore_> seems to be a bug with kdesu login
[03:44] <Jucato> or just with kdesu in general
[03:44] <Hawkwind> It's a known issue with kdesu actually and adept
[03:45] <Jucato> "known issue" isn't really comforting :)
[03:45] <Jucato> I'd prefer to hear/see "resolved" instead :P
[03:45] <jende> flopethedope: brb
[03:45] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Big thread on the ML's here lately about it
[03:45] <Jucato> Hawkwind: which ML? kubuntu-devel?
[03:46] <Linux_Galore_> it really needs fixing because you shouldn't have it on a enterprise release
[03:46] <flopethedope> woohoo it finally finished
[03:46] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I think, might have been the -users but probably the -devel
[03:47] <Linux_Galore_> reminds me I have to fill my mp3 player for work tomorrow
[03:52] <dude> abattoir: im back :)
[03:53] <dude> abattoir: same error "A previous installation of VMware software has been detected." i quit
[03:56] <DjDarkman_> why can`t I install libfam?
[03:57] <DjDarkman_> I mean libfam-dev
[04:01] <Homer> is that kmenu bug fixed in edgy?
[04:02] <Jucato> Homer: which kmenu bug?
[04:02] <Homer> well for me at least
[04:02] <Homer> programs will not add menu options until you reload KDE
[04:03] <DjDarkman_> why can`t I install libfam??
[04:03] <dude> jucato: have you tried vmware?
[04:03] <Homer> so if you installing a program you gotta run it from console or reload KDE
[04:03] <Jucato> Homer: well, afaik it works properly in Edgy.
[04:03] <Homer> ok
[04:03] <Jucato> Homer: btw, you don't need to restart/reload KDE to do that. just type "kbuildsycoca --incremental"
[04:04] <Homer> yeah well it should do that automagically :P
[04:04] <dude> !beryl
[04:04] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[04:04] <Jucato> dude: yes, but I didn't use vmware-player
[04:05] <flopethedope> jende: are you back?
[04:05] <MHazem> Homer: kbuildsycoca
[04:05] <dude> jucato: why?
[04:05] <Jucato> dude: I installed VMWare Server
[04:06] <dude> jucato: whats the differnce?
[04:06] <jende> flopethedope: yep, just now
[04:06] <Jucato> dude: vmware player is just a player. it only runs raeady made VMWare images. VMWare server allows you to create those images
[04:07] <flopethedope> alright
[04:07] <flopethedope> it's finished and i did apt-cache like you said
[04:08] <fadrique> hi
[04:08] <dude> jucato: can windows xp run on vmware?
[04:09] <dude> server
[04:09] <jende> flopethedope: and what was the output?
[04:09] <Jucato> dude: of course. anything that runs on vmware player runs in any vmware product
[04:09] <flopethedope> pwin
[04:09] <flopethedope> aww
[04:09] <flopethedope> blocked lol
[04:09] <flopethedope> sec
[04:10] <dude> jucato: can you help me setup vmware?
[04:10] <jende> flopethedope: you really did sudo apt-cache policy kde
[04:10] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:10] <flopethedope> http://bccpsibeta.com/stuff/blahblah.txt
[04:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:11] <Jucato> dude: this might be of more help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=vmware+server
[04:11] <realin> hi can anyone help me to download drivers for intel D101Gcc mobo
[04:11] <jende> flopethedope: it hasnt said something like Versions...blabla
[04:11] <flopethedope> nope
[04:11] <flopethedope> in that txt is all that it said
[04:12] <jende> flopethedope: what tells you then a sudo apt-cache policy kdesktop ?
[04:13] <flopethedope> http://bccpsibeta.com/stuff/whee.txt
[04:13] <jende> flopethedope: thats good
[04:13] <realin> ATI* Radeon* Xpress 200 Chipset  can anyone help me install these drivers on KUBUNTU
[04:14] <jende> flopethedope: now do a sudo apt-get install kde
[04:14] <jende> !Radeon
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <jende> !ATI
[04:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:15] <flopethedope> okay it's going
[04:15] <jende> flopethedope: cool
[04:15] <jende> realin: have alook at
[04:15] <jende> !ATI
[04:15] <marsswell> bom dia
[04:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:15] <realin> tjanks mate
[04:15] <realin> thanks a lot
[04:15] <realin> i will try and come b ack
[04:15] <jende> realin: you're welcome
[04:16] <flopethedope> i like these fast dl speeds :D 829 kB/s
[04:16] <jende> flopethedope: its kinda cool, ha
[04:16] <flopethedope> well coming from the days of the 2400 baud, this is absolutely beautiful :)
[04:17] <jende> flopethedope: if everything works fine and if all depencies are met, you should be able to change the session with the next reboot
[04:17] <flopethedope> awesome
[04:17] <flopethedope> oh, perhaps you could answer one other thing that's got me pretty confused
[04:17] <flopethedope> i'm trying to change the gnome foot in the applications menu
[04:17] <flopethedope> but everytime i change the image it just doesn't do anything
[04:18] <jende> flopethedope: if not we ave abit of more work to do, but I guess that's been it
[04:18] <DjDarkman_> why does libfam0 conflict with all packagees?
[04:18] <jende> DjDarkman_: cause its buggy
[04:18] <flopethedope> i managed to make the ubuntu image change to the foot somehow but can't get the foot outta here
[04:18] <DjDarkman_> ok and what can I do about it?
[04:18] <jende> flopethedope: I'm not familiar with gnomw, really
[04:18] <flopethedope> that's alright
[04:18] <jende> DjDarkman_: what do you need it for?
[04:18] <flopethedope> it's no biggie, i'll figure it out eventually
[04:19] <DjDarkman_> jende: I want to compile konversation
[04:19] <realin> what is the best player to play mp3 files, cause it plays linux sounds, but amrok doesnt play my mp3 sounds :(
[04:19] <jende> DjDarkman_: why is that?Just get the package and it'll be there
[04:19] <jende> realin:look
[04:19] <jende> !mp3
[04:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:19] <realin> thanks again jende
[04:20] <DjDarkman_> jende: I like to use the svn konversation ,because of it`s new features
[04:20] <realin> that means i cant play mp3 in linux
[04:20] <jende> DjDarkman_: are you on dapper?
[04:20] <Jucato> realin: you just need to install some codecs
[04:20] <DjDarkman_> jende: yes 64 bit dapper to be more precise
[04:20] <CVirus> jende: of course you can .. read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:21] <jende> CVirus: did I say you can't?
[04:21] <CVirus> hmm
[04:21] <Jucato> CVirus: I think you addressed the wrong person :)
[04:21] <CVirus> realin:
[04:21] <CVirus> :-)
[04:21] <CVirus> jende: Jucato: Sorry about that
[04:21] <jende> CVirus: no worries
[04:21] <realin> thanks guyss
[04:22] <DjDarkman_> jende: is this a bug in the repositories?
[04:22] <jende> DjDarkman_: as much as I know it is, yes
[04:22] <DjDarkman_> jende: this is a very old one then ,can I exept a fix?
[04:23] <dude> jucato: im getting errors
[04:23] <jende> DjDarkman_: it's okay in the edgy
[04:23] <asmo674hurt> yesterday i'we take HDD & insert in other PC and back. now i can't run any application wich need OpenGL, what I need to do???
[04:23] <Jucato> dude what errors?
[04:23] <rittap> goodday erverybody !
[04:23] <jende> DjDarkman_: you can either upgrade now or you'll wait til the final release
[04:24] <Jucato> hm... Konversation 1.0 should have been available in dapper-backports days ago...
[04:24] <dude> !paste
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[04:24] <DjDarkman_> is this upgrade unsafe as the breeszy-to-dapper one?
[04:24] <dude> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27000
[04:24] <jende> DjDarkman_: I hadn't had any dramas
[04:25] <DjDarkman_> me neighter when I inserted the install cd :)
[04:25] <Jucato> dude: I see that you're getting the same errors, whether you install vmware player or server.
[04:25] <jende> DjDarkman_: want to know how I did it?
[04:25] <Jucato> dude: unfortunately, I have no idea how to solve this at all... :(
[04:26] <DjDarkman_> jende: sure
[04:26] <dude> jucato: ok, how about beryl?
[04:27] <Jucato> dude: absolutely no experience with XGL/Compiz stuff
[04:27] <realin> !codec
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <Jucato> !codecs
[04:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:28] <Jucato> realin: ^^^^ the RestrictedFormats page
[04:28] <realin> i did it asked me download k3b
[04:28] <realin> so i m doing it
[04:28] <realin> but was looking for avi format too
[04:29] <Jucato> realin: afaik, AVI is handled by the libxine-extracodecs package
[04:29] <jende> DjDarkman_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27002/
[04:29] <realin> ok thanks
[04:29] <jende> !AVI
[04:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:29] <dude> !beryl
[04:29] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[04:30] <jende> DjDarkman_: you might get a warning while upgrading by adept-IGNORE IT!!!
[04:31] <DjDarkman_> I think I`ll won`t use adept to often ,cause it almost removed everything ,and didn`t give a vissible warning
[04:31] <realin> adept says libxine-extracodecs is installed
[04:31] <jende> DjDarkman_: I removed adept, as I hate it
[04:32] <flopethedope> well it finished, do i have to reboot or will a logout suffice?
[04:32] <jende> DjDarkman_: I'd rather play with apt...I love it
[04:32] <jende> flopethedope: do a reboot
[04:32] <flopethedope> ok
[04:32] <flopethedope> brb
[04:32] <jende> flopethedope: cool
[04:33] <DjDarkman_> jende: are there bigger problems with the current edgy beta?
[04:33] <jende> DjDarkman_: honestly, I haven't figured out any as yet
[04:34] <DjDarkman_> ok I`ll try ,maybe I won`t kill xorg this time
[04:34] <jende> DjDarkman_: xorg shouldn't be killed
[04:35] <oslo> hi
[04:35] <oslo> how could i tape what i see on my desktop to an video file ?
[04:35] <jende> DjDarkman_: and if, yoou've got something to work on...hehe
[04:35] <josh_> anyone in here know NFS?
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !nfs
[04:36] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:37] <DjDarkman_> jende: first errors :
[04:37] <DjDarkman_> Err http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages
[04:37] <DjDarkman_>   404 Not Found
[04:37] <jende> DjDarkman_: yoou're kidding
[04:37] <jende> DjDarkman_: you're kidding
[04:38] <DjDarkman_> nope I`m not
[04:38] <DjDarkman_> wait I`ll show you my sources.list
[04:38] <Jucato> !pastebin
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[04:38] <Jucato> DjDarkman_: you could use that ^^^^^^^
[04:39] <DjDarkman_> I know
[04:39] <jende> DjDarkman_: yep, show me yours BUT pastebin it
[04:39] <DjDarkman_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27004/
[04:39] <DjDarkman_> jende: I`m not a total newb :)
[04:39] <jende> DjDarkman_: sorry
[04:39] <Jucato> er...
[04:39] <Jucato> lots of errors there
[04:39] <jende> DjDarkman_: I'll pastebin mine quickly
[04:40] <jende> DjDarkman_: heaps of errs in yours
[04:40] <jende> DjDarkman_: use mine instead
[04:40] <DjDarkman_> do I have too many repos?
[04:40] <gupta> is there an altenative to ark? a bit more efficient/faster perhaps
[04:40] <Jucato> DjDarkman_: too many wrong repos
[04:40] <flopethedope> worked like a charm!
[04:40] <DjDarkman_> gupta: Archive Maneger
[04:41] <dude> need help to guide me install beryl
[04:41] <DjDarkman_> It`s a gnoem archive maneger
[04:41] <DjDarkman_> *gnome
[04:41] <gupta> DjDarkman_: is it better(faster ) than ark?
[04:41] <DjDarkman_> yep
[04:41] <gupta> ok thanks!
[04:41] <jende> DjDarkman_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27005/
[04:41] <gupta> will try
[04:41] <jende> flopethedope: so, you're happy now
[04:41] <flopethedope> aye
[04:41] <DjDarkman_> but tar and unrar are faster i think
[04:42] <jende> flopethedope: solved it?
[04:42] <DjDarkman_> :)
[04:42] <flopethedope> yessir
[04:42] <jende> flopethedope: cool
[04:42] <flopethedope> now to check out the ins and outs and to decide if i wanna keep kde or gnome
[04:42] <DjDarkman_> je
[04:42] <flopethedope> anything else i should know?
[04:42] <DjDarkman_> jende: your amarok repo seems to bee old
[04:42] <jende> DjDarkman_: cause I'm not really using it
[04:42] <DjDarkman_> I have amarok 1.4.3
[04:43] <Jucato> doesn't Edgy come with Amarok 1.4.3 anyway?
[04:43] <DjDarkman_> don`t know
[04:43] <gonzo_> how do I setup a networked hard drive in kubuntu?
[04:43] <jende> DjDarkman_: edgy comes with 1.4.3
[04:43] <Jucato> just checked. yes it does :)
[04:43] <Jucato> btw, it's practically useless to have edgy-security and edgy-backports enabled for now
[04:44] <Jucato> and edgy-updates as well
[04:44] <gonzo_> the hard drive is on a windows box
[04:44] <jende> Jucato: Raphael Pinson said its not useless
[04:44] <DjDarkman_> ok
[04:45] <Jucato> oh ok. if he said so. who am I to argue with raphink :)
[04:45] <jende> Jucato: dunno
[04:45] <gupta> what is the exact name of that gnome arhchive manager, plz?
[04:46] <gupta> archive
[04:46] <letalis> gonzo_: are you trying to do it via nfs?
[04:46] <letalis> im not sure if thatll work on an ntfs partition or not
[04:46] <DjDarkman_> Ign http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages
[04:46] <DjDarkman_> Err http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages
[04:46] <DjDarkman_>   404 Not Found
[04:46] <Jucato> jende: the only reason I said it was practically useless to have it enabled right now is because I think/thought those sections are empty
[04:46] <jende> Jucato: basically, I think, he meant probably that it doesn't hurt, as they come real soon
[04:47] <Jucato> probably. :)
[04:47] <jende> Jucato: ,-)
[04:48] <jende> DjDarkman_: that surprises me badly
[04:48] <jende> Jucato: have you got an idea why DjDarkman_ is getting a 404
[04:48] <DjDarkman_> I don`t think it would be safe to upgrade without that
[04:49] <Jucato> jende: is he using your sources.list now?
[04:49] <jende> DjDarkman_: i think so
[04:49] <DjDarkman_> yes i`m using it
[04:49] <Jucato> DjDarkman_: why not remove the kubuntu.org amarok repository?
[04:49] <v3ctor> gupta: you could try xarchiver
[04:49] <jende> Jucato: I'm just upgrading another machine here with that sources.list and it works fine
[04:50] <Jucato> and the sunsite repos as well?
[04:50] <jende> Jucato: yeah the sunsite are useless for him, I guess. I forgot to tell
[04:51] <DjDarkman_> what is this? deb http://typo3.sunsite.dk/software/debian/ ./
[04:51] <Jucato> the Amarok 1.4.1 repo as well, since the update will install 1.4.3 anyway
[04:51] <jende> DjDarkman_: thats typo3 a cms
[04:51] <DjDarkman_> ok removed typo
[04:51] <DjDarkman_> removed amarok
[04:51] <DjDarkman_> repository
[04:51] <jende> DjDarkman_: give it a new go
[04:52] <DjDarkman_> ok
[04:52] <jende> Jucato: here in germany there no free hosts, that's why I just ordered me a root-server
[04:52] <DjDarkman_> it works
[04:52] <Jucato> DjDarkman_: I would also recommend changing the "de.archive.ubuntu.com" to your local/nearest mirror/server later on
[04:53] <DjDarkman_> hmmm you`re right
[04:54] <jende> Jucato: I think DjDarkman_ will cange that anyway, as he is not a total newb
[04:54] <Jucato> yeah. just offering reminders/suggestions
[04:54] <Jucato> sometimes the simplest things are the ones that escapes us the most (speaking from experience)
[04:54] <DjDarkman_> yeah I don`t have a fast internet connection to ignore this detail :)
[04:55] <jende> Jucato: fair enough, I should have told him indefinitely that he should kick out at least the repos for typo3 and maybe amarok as well
[04:55] <jende> my fault
[04:55] <jvdv_> Is there somebody how is willing to help me a bit with my Interenet connection. I just Installed Kubuntu (Dutch version) on my other machine but I lack the knowledge to get it going. I am behind a router andmy machine works with a fix IP address
[04:56] <Nukem> lol the chan rocks
[04:56] <jende> jvdv_: why not dhcp?
[04:56] <Nukem> heya i need help too
[04:56] <letalis> jvdv_: what kind of connection are you using to get to the internet, standard ethernet?
[04:56] <Nukem> kubi partition manager just crashed
[04:56] <Nukem> :/
[04:56] <jvdv_> Standard Ethernet Yes
[04:56] <vge> http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9130/esim4eu5.jpg <-- somebody can explain me how to proceed? im upgrading to edgy and this comes when all paggages have been downloaded and it's trying to install the paggages
[04:57] <Nukem> i can't install it
[04:57] <Nukem> :D
[04:57] <letalis> does linux recognize your ethernet nic?
[04:57] <jende> jvdv_: get onto a console and tell us the output of sudo route, if your card got recognized
[04:57] <jvdv_> wait
[04:58] <salestodo555> what i need to do if i have read this: " OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' "??? 2 days ago it goes perfectly!
[04:58] <OOD> you need graphics drivers
[04:58] <jende> !opengl
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <Jucato> :)
[04:58] <jende> !GLX
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GLX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <OOD> !nvidia
[04:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:59] <OOD> ;)
[04:59] <Nukem> hmm how the fuck should i install kubi if the partition manager sux
[04:59] <jende> OOD: *g*
[04:59] <Nukem> ?
[04:59] <jende> jvdv_: are you still with us?
[04:59] <echo1> I need some help.  I can't do any apt type updating because the database is locked by something.  I've checked ps aux for thigns like aux, adept but no luck...
[04:59] <jende> echo1: sudo apt
[05:00] <jvdv_> Yes, I had to re-start my other system. Nearly there
[05:00] <jende> jvdv_: okay
[05:00] <echo1> no such command jende
[05:01] <jvdv_> I go to System Setting - Network settings The Interface = ethh0
[05:01] <jende> echo1: you're on a console? and if you type sudo apt-get -f install, for instance, it tells you no such comman?
[05:01] <Nukem> echo can u help me ?
[05:01] <jende> jvdv_: go on a console ALT+F2 and type sudo route
[05:02] <jvdv_> wait
[05:02] <jende> jvdv_: sure will
[05:02] <echo1> i works but the issue is i cnt do anythign.  Something has locked the database and i cant figure out what
[05:02] <jende> echo1: okay have you tried to modify your sources.list?
[05:03] <echo1> yes, when kde 3.5.5 came out, i did my update and allw as good
[05:03] <jende> echo1: is it an error msg like dpkg blabla?
[05:03] <jvdv_> Nothing seem to happen. I did ALT + F2 en type sudo route in the window
[05:04] <echo1> adept says: Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[05:04] <jende> jvdv_: nothing happens? you've been asked for your password
[05:05] <Nukem> aye
[05:05] <jende> echo1: I didn't asked for the adept output, type sudo apt-get clean
[05:05] <OOD> echo1: try using apt-get in terminal, it might tell you what to do
[05:05] <jvdv_> OK, got it, what are you looking for?
[05:05] <echo1> yep: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:05] <jende> jvdv_: pastebin the output
[05:05] <OOD> do that
[05:05] <nicofr737> hello guys
[05:06] <jende> !pastebin
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[05:06] <nicofr737> which person can help me with an ubuntu booting problem please ?
[05:06] <OOD> nicofr737: depends what the problem is ;)
[05:06] <jende> jvdv_: and then paste the link in here
[05:07] <echo1> jende: where do I run this 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.'
[05:07] <jende> echo1: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:07] <nicofr737> after successfull installation with the CD, the boots but block with messsage Mouting root file system
[05:07] <OOD> echo1. open up konsole
[05:07] <jende> echo1: open a console
[05:07] <jvdv_> Kubuntu is on my other machine. I just noticed that the IP address under Destination is wrong. Where can I correct this?
[05:07] <cox377> I'm wondering if someone can give me some advice, i've got an iso that i wanna put on an USB stick to make it bootable
[05:07] <echo1> thats what i was doing, i just had a typ
[05:08] <cox377> what would be the recommended software under kubuntu?
[05:08] <Nukem> some iso unpacking stuff
[05:08] <Nukem> :p
[05:08] <jende> jvdv_: you may either use sudo ifconfig eth0 <IPAddress>
[05:08] <nicofr737> so any idea ?
[05:09] <cox377> Nukem: when u put it on the usb stick do u have to make it bootable, i've never done it before
[05:09] <jende> jvdv_: or sudo route add default gw <IP of your router>
[05:09] <Nukem> the usb is the same like hdd almost
[05:09] <Nukem> iso is a packed file like zip
[05:09] <Nukem> burn it on your usb :p
[05:10] <Nukem> iso is used for cd's but no prob to put in on usb i think
[05:10] <cox377> i mean can i just extract and copy?
[05:10] <iarwain_ben-adar> Hi, anyone knows something about internet (and firefox) problems?
[05:10] <Nukem> nah won't copy the boot part
[05:11] <jende> jvdv_: did that gave you a correct route?
[05:11] <cox377> ok, so??
[05:11] <Nukem> but iso is used for cd's
[05:11] <Nukem> :p
[05:11] <cox377> lol
[05:11] <jende> jvdv_: if so ping google, i.e.
[05:11] <jvdv_> I am working on it. I do appreciate your help but I am pretty new to Linux
[05:11] <cox377> well i dont have any blank cd'rs and i need a bootable object for a app thats about 10mb
[05:12] <Nukem> try to byte copy the file to the usb secter / sector
[05:12] <Nukem> :p
[05:12] <jende> jvdv_: keep going, mate, we should get you there
[05:12] <OOD> cox377: you could install the OS on the usb drive
[05:13] <OOD> then it should boot on any recent PC
[05:13] <OOD> as long as you put the MBR on the usb drive
[05:13] <nicofr737> so nothing to help me ...
[05:14] <aether> hm
[05:14] <jende> nicofr737: whats your prob?
[05:14] <nicofr737> jende: system block at boot with message "Mouting root file system" thanks
[05:15] <Nukem> well i can't even install it nico
[05:15] <Nukem> u are happy man
[05:15] <nicofr737> lol
[05:15] <aether> why can't you install it?
[05:15] <jende> nicofr737: which version are you trying to install?Dapper?Edgy?
[05:15] <Nukem> coz i have wintendo and i wanna install this kubi on some other partition
[05:16] <Nukem> and the partition manager just rocks to crash
[05:16] <T3hWiz0rd> Windtendoooo! pirate your own fun.
[05:16] <Nukem> windows -.-
[05:16] <nicofr737> jende: I don't know exactly. i have taken it on ubunto web site. It's Destop ubunto 6.06
[05:16] <Nukem> xp
[05:16] <Nukem> !
[05:16] <aether> i used partmag, paritiond my hdd into 3 and fully installed kubby onto it
[05:17] <Nukem> well it blows up like i said
[05:17] <jende> Nukem: you might do something wrong with partmag, I guess
[05:17] <T3hWiz0rd> like use it
[05:17] <T3hWiz0rd> or any norton programs
[05:17] <T3hWiz0rd> the piles of crap
[05:17] <Nukem> jende no way only linux i gotta install on my pc was suse
[05:17] <OOD> gparted all the way :D
[05:17] <Nukem> coz it got's xtream partition shit
[05:18] <jende> OOD: my suggestion as well
[05:18] <Nukem> jende and i got 2 msg when i booted
[05:18] <jende> jvdv_: ???
[05:18] <Nukem> some I/O error on 2 blocks
[05:18] <nicofr737> jende: Can it be a problem with udev or something like this. May be during the setup, linux saw my disk but may be when tring to mount file system at boot, udev can't see my disk
[05:18] <T3hWiz0rd> don't any of you know how to manually partition a hard dirve? I can do it with the spoon i just ate my breakfast off of!
[05:18] <jende> Nukem: like what? don't speak in fragments
[05:19] <Nukem> wait a bit i gonna boot again and write it on paper
[05:19] <Nukem> will get back soon
[05:19] <Nukem> :)
[05:19] <jvdv_> Sorry, I have to go (Have to get my kids from school) I'll be back later and pick up from where we left it. Thks.
[05:20] <nicofr737> by jvdv_
[05:20] <jende> nicofr737: sounds like that your partition couldn't get created or recognized at all
[05:20] <aether> drive safe :)
[05:20] <jende> jvdv_: take care and be safe
[05:21] <nicofr737> jende: hum. and ? have any idea ? try another linux ? :)
[05:21] <aether> huh?
[05:22] <aether> i had to laugh earlier, i was having problems with some programs on kubuntu, then i finaly figured out the guy who sent me the cd sent me a older version
[05:23] <sfilleul> hi
[05:23] <jende> nicofr737: nope, you don't to use another distri
[05:23] <letalis> hi
[05:23] <aether> hey
[05:23] <darko> hi aether
[05:23] <aether> hows it goin'?
[05:23] <jende> nicofr737: what is your native language?
[05:24] <nicofr737> jende: french but from switzerland ...
[05:24] <jende> nicofr737: so you would understand erman as well
[05:24] <jende> nicofr737: so you would understand german as well
[05:24] <aether> my native language is english but understand a little of most
[05:25] <nicofr737> jende: no lol... i am in the french part of switzerland :)
[05:25] <jende> nicofr737: just wait a bit
[05:25] <nicofr737> and swiss french guys speak in english with swiss german guys LOL
[05:25] <nicofr737> jende : ok
[05:25] <jende> nicofr737: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
[05:26] <jende> nicofr737: knoppix is a linux live - CD and comes with a Linux Partition Manager
[05:26] <jende> nicofr737: that shuld work and solve your dramas
[05:26] <jende> nicofr737: that should work and solve your dramas
[05:27] <nicofr737> jende ok thanks i will try it.
[05:27] <jende> nicofr737: the PM is either called gparted or qtparted
[05:27] <Nukem> jade
[05:27] <jende> !qtparted
[05:27] <aether> wb nuke
[05:28] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB
[05:28] <Nukem> thx
[05:28] <nicofr737> jende: ok i know parted so i hope i can find a solution
[05:28] <Nukem> here is the msg
[05:28] <nicofr737> jende: thanks a lot
[05:28] <jende> nicofr737: no dramas, you're welcome
[05:28] <nicofr737> bye bye room
[05:28] <Nukem> [17179714.464000]  Buffer I/O error on device hdd, on logical block 354710
[05:29] <jende> nicofr737: bye and i hope you'll succeed
[05:29] <aether> its a logical partition?
[05:29] <jende> Nukem: get yourself this LiveCD which comes wirh a LinuxPartitionManager
[05:29] <jende> nicofr737: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
[05:30] <Nukem> this is live cd
[05:30] <Nukem> edgy
[05:30] <teflon> hi
[05:31] <jende> Nukem: well, if you want to create a proper Linux Partition you may seriously want to use the Knoppix CD as I said
[05:32] <Nukem> damn
[05:32] <Nukem> i am doomed
[05:32] <wildchild> !xgl
[05:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:32] <jende> Nukem: create with the tool *parted the partition and then install KUbuntu
[05:32] <Nukem> will try
[05:32] <Nukem> thx for help
[05:33] <jende> Nukem: no worries, you're welcom
[05:33] <jende> folks, I'm off for now see ya later
[05:33] <teflon> Hey I think I may have found a problem with kubuntu dapper
[05:34] <jende> teflon: like what?
[05:34] <teflon> I was using adept a while ago and it kept hanging at the kdesu
[05:34] <teflon> it kept loading then just vanished
[05:34] <jende> teflon: it's a known issue
[05:34] <teflon> so i typed killall kdesu into konsole as a user
[05:35] <teflon> and  I could then launch ANY app without being prompted fora password
[05:35] <teflon> I was never asked for any password when I done sudo
[05:35] <jende> teflon: that's quite impossibel, I would say
[05:35] <teflon> yes that swhat i thought
[05:36] <teflon> but i kid you not
[05:36] <jende> teflon: but I've got to go now anyway, hope someone else will help you
[05:36] <teflon> i thought maybe it had cached my priveleges from some other prog running from kdesu but nope
[05:36] <teflon> its not really as problem jsut a vuln i think
[05:37] <aether> hm
[05:37] <aether> my problem is how slow the transfer from windslut - nix is
[05:38] <aether> :P
[05:38] <teflon> windslut?
[05:38] <aether> winslut* windows
[05:38] <aether> my personal name for it
[05:39] <teflon> ah k^^
[05:39] <Dasnipa] [> winblows is more common
[05:39] <v3ctor> sluts are cheap and easy..windows is not cheap
[05:39] <Dasnipa] [> at least it flows with the actual name
[05:39] <teflon> you mean over a network? or reading from ntfs?
[05:39] <aether> haha
[05:39] <aether> sluts take take take windows does
[05:39] <aether> over a network
[05:40] <teflon> you got a 100mbps network then?
[05:40] <vge> somebody can helmp me with thease errors when upgrading to edgy: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3015/esim5cm8.jpg and before that http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9130/esim4eu5.jpg ??
[05:40] <v3ctor> what are you using for transfer?
[05:40] <teflon> i use filezilla here from a 2003 box to my kubuntu desktop and it runs fine
[05:40] <aether> click - move lmao i cant access the computer its on myself or i'd be puttin up a ftp
[05:40] <teflon> but i have gigabit
[05:41] <vge> anyone?
[05:42] <teflon> sorry im new to linux i still dont have a clue about half the stuff going on ^^
[05:42] <ryanr> how do  I find my kde ver?
[05:43] <teflon> open a kde prg
[05:43] <Jucato> ryanr: in any KDE app, Help menu > About KDE
[05:43] <teflon> and go to help about kde
[05:44] <v3ctor> kicker --version
[05:44] <ryanr> Thanks yall that was too easy
[05:44] <v3ctor> in konsole
[05:46] <aether> hm
[05:47] <aether> roomie must of left, no more music
[05:47] <teflon> aw have any of you noticed this really neat option in kmix
[05:47] <teflon> in input PCM
[05:47] <teflon> if you turn that up it outputs eveything from your speakers through your mic
[05:49] <aether> o0
[05:49] <aether> lol telfon
[05:49] <aether> a mic that talks back?
[05:49] <teflon> yep
[05:50] <teflon> honeslty I play music to my friend sthrough skype and teamspeak
[05:50] <teflon> im not joking it works great
[05:51] <teflon> try it ou I have a creative audigy 4
[05:53] <aether> i dont even know what i have but either it or my mic is facked
[05:53] <aether> becuase it just sounds like a hurricane
[05:53] <teflon> lol yeah you need to familiarise your self with the options there are so many
[05:54] <aether> hm?
[05:54] <teflon> in kmix
[05:54] <aether> my mics been messed for a while lol
[05:54] <teflon> like just oget my mic working I had to fiddle for 5 mins
[05:55] <aether> think wires are loose
[05:55] <teflon> ah yeah that happened to my old one
[05:55] <aether> so ima see what i can do
[05:55] <aether> then put the left headphoen back together lol sat on it woops
[05:56] <teflon> LOL
[05:56] <aether> didnt break it just teh cushion type thing came off
[05:56] <teflon> ul
[05:56] <constantine-xvi> would it be possible to set up a user-friendly DCOP system?
[05:57] <teflon> I once dropped my laptop on a cushioned seat and it bound on the PCMCIA wirelss card, it was in a bad way...
[05:57] <aether> lol ouch
[05:57] <wildchild> has anyone ANYONE here managed to install xgl on kubuntu 6.10 with amd64 and nvidia. If so, please post how to forum link..
[05:57] <wildchild> my bad
[05:57] <wildchild> 6.6
[05:58] <teflon> yeah I was kinda not amused
[05:58] <teflon> xgl?
[05:58] <wildchild> yes
[05:58] <teflon> what is that?
[05:58] <aether> thinkt he worst set of headphones i had was actualy the right earphone totaly broke off and i had to tape it on or put it back together whilst wearin them
[05:58] <aether> lol but they worked fine
[05:58] <wildchild> teflon: http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/xgl/
[05:59] <teflon> ah sorry I don't have a clue
[05:59] <teflon> lol aether
[05:59] <teflon> how do you do that red writing think? what comandi s it again?
[05:59] <aether> asking me?
[06:00] <aether> i not sure teflon
[06:00] <visik7> does anyone has a deb for kchm ? (not kchmviewer)
[06:00] <teflon> lol
[06:00] <teflon> this is my first time using irc ever.
[06:00] <aether> im like.. the oo in noob
[06:00] <teflon> you just done it aether
[06:00] <teflon> lol
[06:01] <aether> in that case it may be when you say someones name?
[06:01] <aether> becuase you've said my name twice both times in red
[06:01] <teflon> ah
[06:01] <teflon> well you leanr something every day
[06:01] <aether> i've learned a lot in the last 24 hours :)
[06:01] <teflon> this your first day too?
[06:02] <aether> not of irc, but linux
[06:02] <teflon> ah im new to linux
[06:02] <teflon> but had it for a few weeks now
[06:03] <teflon> I just formatted and all i have now is linux now windows
[06:03] <teflon> *no windows
[06:03] <aether> yeah, i should of done dual boot at first
[06:03] <aether> same here
[06:03] <aether> for a bit i was "what did i just do" lol
[06:03] <teflon> no i have to study this year and I figured I wasted too much time on games
[06:04] <teflon> lol yeah I had to format a few times
[06:04] <Rocker3358> I'm dual booted cause some programs and games I play I hadn't put on here yet
[06:04] <teflon> I tried gentoo first and forgot to install X11 lmao
[06:04] <teflon> yeah
[06:04] <aether> well my kopete msn freezes up when i try to log in to it
[06:04] <aether> aim works
[06:04] <aether> lool
[06:04] <aether> so im usin amsn =/
[06:04] <teflon> yeah kopete is a little flaky
[06:05] <teflon> kopete is the ownage though
[06:05] <aether> as for this transfer rate its tempting me to take a trip and set up a ftp
[06:05] <teflon> I love all the inof it gives you like whne someone close the windos
[06:05] <aether> the trip being down teh stairs but same difference
[06:05] <aether> you can get that by right clickin on there name and going who is
[06:07] <Shoiab> I need some web links!!!! about winmoden in ubuntu????
[06:07] <aether> huh?
[06:07] <mbvo> i need telnet acces to this computer(kubuntu) from widows, what telnet server should i use? and how do i install?
[06:07] <aether> i dno
[06:07] <teflon> use ssh
[06:07] <aether> :P
[06:07] <aether> im so helpful
[06:08] <fdoving> mbvo: i recommend ssh, the package name for the server is 'openssh-server' google for 'putty download' to get a good windows client.
[06:08] <aether> brb go set up filezilla on other pc
[06:08] <teflon> yeah ssh is the pwnage
[06:08] <teflon> ok
[06:09] <Shoiab> Any one know???
[06:09] <fdoving> Shoiab: hang on, i'll check.
[06:09] <teflon> what?
[06:09] <teflon> sorry
[06:09] <aether> ahh exactly wha ti thought
[06:09] <teflon> winmoden?
[06:09] <teflon> what aether?
[06:09] <aether> don't it suck when parents think whatever you do to a pc your going to feck it up
[06:09] <teflon> yeah
[06:10] <guy> bonjour
[06:10] <mbvo> how do i get to the syaptics pakage manager in kubuntu? or is there one?
[06:10] <teflon> I know your pain
[06:10] <fdoving> Shoiab: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[06:10] <teflon> bonjour
[06:10] <aether> "i'm going to set up a local ftp server" no your jnot blah blah blah
[06:10] <aether> not your comptuer blah blah lol
[06:10] <teflon> mbvo it adept with me try that
[06:10] <teflon> LMAO
[06:10] <guy> c'est mon premier essai
[06:10] <teflon> blah blah blah
[06:10] <aether> im like =/ omg
[06:10] <fdoving> mbvo: you can use 'kmenu -> system -> adept' - some people prefer synaptic over it though.
[06:10] <teflon> quoi? kubuntu?
[06:10] <aether> not like im hackin the mod database
[06:10] <fdoving> !fr > guy
[06:10] <teflon> yeah
[06:11] <aether> wait till they find out im setting up a online ftp server lol
[06:11] <teflon> so the server is on your home network?
[06:11] <aether> was going to be
[06:11] <teflon> lol
[06:11] <teflon> I have one
[06:11] <teflon> www.fukwit.com:21 hehe
[06:12] <aether> well i had my step dad forward some ports for "games"
[06:12] <teflon> bbut it aint public
[06:12] <teflon> lol
[06:12] <fdoving> teflon, aether, #kubuntu-offtopic for non-support stuff, thanks.
[06:12] <teflon> yeah 21 essential game port
[06:12] <aether> o thx
[06:12] <teflon> oh sorry
[06:12] <aether> and sorry
[06:12] <teflon> ill head over there now
[06:13] <aether> right click it and join m8 :P
[06:13] <fdoving> :)
[06:14] <Shoiab> thanks
[06:20] <mbvo> windows doesn't like my linux machines name,how do i get to the networ-admin(or somethig similar) on kubuntu?
[06:20] <dark0> hello
[06:20] <dark0> how are u all doing
[06:20] <dark0> how are u all doing
[06:21] <teflon> fine
[06:22] <mbvo> how do i rename my kubuntu computer?
[06:22] <mbvo> telnet
[06:22] <teflon> don't know
[06:22] <mbvo> oops
[06:22] <teflon> sorry
[06:22] <mbvo> wrong kb
[06:23] <blurfle> mbvo: hostname ?
[06:23] <mbvo> how do i change my kubuntu computers name(to get rid of the dash)?
[06:23] <mbvo> thanks
[06:24] <blurfle> mbvo: http://tuxmachines.org/node/9663
[06:28] <johey> How can I add support for real audio to Amarok?
[06:37] <e-d-d-i-e> witam
[06:40] <e-d-d-i-e> mam pytanie czy na procesorze 64 bitowym intel pentium D 2.8 uda mi sie zainstalowac zwykla wersje kubuntu 6.06?
[06:40] <e-d-d-i-e> czy potzreba nest jakas wersja przystosowana po te wlasnie porcesory?
[06:40] <e-d-d-i-e> *potrzebna jest
[06:40] <Hawkwind> e-d-d-i-e: Try that in English for us if you would please :)
[06:41] <wildchild> In KDE (Kubuntu), you can add a simple script to the "~/.kde/Autostart/" directory that activates those commands.
[06:41] <wildchild> and commands are:
[06:41] <wildchild> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[06:41] <wildchild> beryl-manager
[06:41] <e-d-d-i-e> sry
[06:41] <wildchild> can someone help me how to make this script in Autostart work?
[06:42] <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: put those commands in a file such as beryl.sh
[06:42] <BonBonTheJon> then do chmod +x beryl.sh
[06:45] <wildchild> BonBonTheJon can't find beryl.sh
[06:46] <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: at the command line do 'cd ~/.kde/Autostart/'
[06:46] <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: then do 'kate betyl'
[06:46] <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: then put your two commands in kate
[06:46] <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: and save
[06:46] <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: tell me when you got that done
[06:47] <wildchild> [18:46]  <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: then do 'kate betyl'  <-- "betyl" or "beryl"
[06:47] <ashwin_> any torrent users here?
[06:47] <teflon> yes
[06:47] <Dr_willis> dosent everyone use them>
[06:48] <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: it doesnt matter, but you probably want beryl
[06:48] <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: and it should be beryl.sh
[06:48] <BonBonTheJon> sorry
[06:48] <ashwin_> teflon: my doenload is extremely slow when it come to download.....not sure3 y
[06:48] <ashwin_> any suggestions
[06:49] <ashwin_> i mean no matter what client i use they are pathetically slow
[06:49] <teflon> have yuou opened the ports on your router for bittorrent
[06:49] <ashwin_> but the normal browsing is pretty fast
[06:49] <Dr_willis> or it could be the # of peers that are just slow.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> some torrents are fast... some are slow fo rme.
[06:49] <wildchild> BonBonTheJon: done
[06:49] <teflon> yes it depends on the seeders
[06:49] <ashwin_> router....let me check
[06:50] <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: ok, in command line do 'sudo chmod +x beryl.sh' to make it executable
[06:50] <Kim^J> What the hell have you all done to everything in 6.10?
[06:50] <Kim^J> Why doesn't anything work as it should?
[06:50] <teflon> you need to forward the ports from your router to your pc
[06:50] <Kim^J> MPD reads the got damn wrong file.
[06:50] <blueyed> What scripts does Kubuntu/KDE execute for the "Suspend" and "Hibernate" buttons in the "Log out..." dialog?
[06:50] <Kim^J> Amarok won't start even though it gave no errors.
[06:50] <isabelle> hello
[06:50] <Kim^J> Everything is just so fucked up.
[06:51] <BonBonTheJon> !language
[06:51] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:51] <isabelle> y a t il une version francaise ????
[06:51] <wildchild> BonBonTheJon: I am going to restart x ...
[06:51] <apokryphos> !fr
[06:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:51] <isabelle> svp
[06:51] <wildchild> BonBonTheJon: tnx
[06:51] <Kim^J> isabelle, /j #kubuntu-fr
[06:51] <ashwin_> oh ok have just one peer....slow its pretty slow
[06:51] <otaku-san> Ok, I installed Karbon14...but it's not in the kmenu.  I have to type karbon in konsole to start it...so how do I put it in the kmenu?
[06:51] <BonBonTheJon> wildchild: tell me if it works
[06:51] <wildchild> k
[06:51] <ashwin_> thanks guys
[06:51] <teflon> if ther is only one peer then it will be slow
[06:51] <otaku-san> with a icon with it
[06:51] <teflon> otaku restart
[06:52] <BonBonTheJon> otaku-san: or you can right click on kmenu and edit it
[06:52] <otaku-san> teflon: I have already....anyways restarting is for windoze users
[06:52] <mbvo> how do i set a static ip on kubuntu?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> mbvo,  i just use the network config tools and set it. :P
[06:53] <Dr_willis> of course last i did that was months ago.. where are they...
[06:53] <otaku-san> BonBonTheJon: let me try...I think I already did....it doesn't show up as a normal app...
[06:53] <teflon> don't know you will need to find the executalbe and add it to menu
[06:53] <mbvo> what network tools?
[06:53] <constantine-xvi> does anyone in here use basket 0.6 (the beta/RC)?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> system->networking is where some are at.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> mbvo,  you havent even looked have ya? :P
[06:53] <mbvo> i have
[06:54] <mbvo> i even tried network-admin from the terminal
[06:54] <ashwin_> mbvo: go to system->adminitration-> networking
[06:54] <Dr_willis> i tend to install all the ubunti stuff as well.
[06:54] <otaku-san> teflon: I found the executable...but I think I need it as read write access to put into the menu
[06:54] <mbvo> there's no administration
[06:54] <B-Minus> mbvo:
[06:54] <ashwin_> ok u must be in kde
[06:54] <teflon> dont know
[06:54] <B-Minus> you can do that with ipconfig eth0 ipadress
[06:55] <blueyed> What scripts or actions does Kubuntu/KDE execute for the "Suspend" and "Hibernate" buttons in the "Log out..." dialog?
[06:55] <teflon> I am not that knowledagble to be honest
[06:55] <ashwin_> try -> system-> networking
[06:55] <ashwin_> *system-> networking
[06:55] <mbvo> it's telling me -bash: ipconfig: command not found
[06:55] <joakim_> hi
[06:56] <ashwin_> its "ifconfig"
[06:56] <otaku-san> teflon: heheheh me either!
[06:56] <ashwin_> ipconfig is for windows
[06:56] <Hawkwind> mbvo: ipconfig is Windows, ifconfig is linux :)
[06:56] <Dr_willis> I dont have an ipconfig either. :) but i get no messages about it.. lol
[06:56] <ashwin_> thats strage :)
[06:57] <joakim_> i is no sound in my cedega when i play BF2 but i use KDE. inn Gnome is working. how can i fix this?
[06:57] <teflon> sorry otaku
[06:57] <joakim_> ssombody can help me
[06:57] <joakim_> ?
[06:57] <ashwin_> we'll try to
[06:57] <joakim_> what ?
[06:58] <teflon> ask the guys at cedega ther teech sup[port is supposedly quite good joakim
[06:58] <joakim_> i nobody ansver ther
[06:58] <ashwin_> i meant i'll try to help....not sure if gonna be succesfull in doingso:)
[06:59] <teflon> hm...
[06:59] <ashwin_> oh sry missed ur earlier message
[06:59] <Dr_willis> when playing games in cedega.. it may be worth wile to login to a VERY minimal window manager. :P
[06:59] <Dr_willis> sounds like an alsa/esd issue to me.
[07:00] <Skrot> Sound problems sounds like artsd though ;)
[07:00] <joakim_> wath abot  artsd?
[07:01] <Skrot> joakim_: artsd may be hijacking your sound device, so Cedega/BF42 don't get access to it
[07:01] <Skrot> joakim_: Try killall -9 artsd and then start bf42
[07:01] <joakim_> oki thx
[07:05] <vge> kk, now how i get back to my KDE after upgrading to edgy?
[07:05] <joakim> hi
[07:05] <teflon> hi
[07:05] <vge> there dont seem to be "startx" command anymore, and OS boots to console?
[07:06] <joakim> it works whit killall -9 artsd but when i paly the gam the sound got away . how i fix this :D
[07:06] <Skrot> vge: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:06] <vge> thats what i was looking for, ty
[07:06] <joakim> ?
[07:06] <teflon> log in and 'startx' or 'gui'
[07:06] <Skrot> joakim: You mean sound works for a little while then dissapears?
[07:06] <joakim> yes
[07:07] <joakim> it works when its begin than dissapears
[07:07] <joakim> iin the game
[07:07] <Skrot> I see. That's a little harder to debug
[07:08] <joakim> oki how i fix thats
[07:08] <vge> Skrot: it says that paggage has unmet debendencies, "hwdb-client-kde" to be exact?
[07:08] <teflon> enable all repositories
[07:08] <joakim> ?
[07:08] <Skrot> joakim: You can disable artsd in KDE Menu -> Run -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System
[07:09] <Skrot> vge: I had the same problem. Though "apt-get install hwdb-client-kde" worked..
[07:09] <vge> Skrot: ill try that
[07:09] <Skrot> vge: I just installed all the unmet dependencies by hand. If hwdb-client-kde depends on some other package, you try to install that one manually
[07:09] <joakim> joakim: You can disable artsd in KDE Menu -> Run -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System
[07:10] <joakim> run command
[07:10] <Skrot> err, "kcontrol"
[07:10] <Skrot> joakim: Also run killall -9 artsd before you start bf42
[07:11] <joakim> i cant find it
[07:11] <Skrot> joakim: What is it that you can't find?
[07:12] <joakim> Sound System
[07:12] <Pensacola> how to acces linux partitions from windows?
[07:12] <Skrot> joakim: It should be in kcontrol -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System -> [X]  Enable the sound system
[07:12] <lucas_> with partition magic
[07:12] <lucas_> it's not free
[07:13] <joakim> u mean settings
[07:13] <joakim> system settings
[07:13] <Pensacola> euhm let me refrase that
[07:13] <Pensacola> I need to acces some files from my linux partition from windows :)
[07:13] <Skrot> joakim: You can find it in "system settings" as well. There it's only called "Sound System" in the root menu
[07:13] <teflon> there is a ntfs reader
[07:13] <Pensacola> the other way around :)
[07:14] <Pensacola> I need to read ext3 from windows :)
[07:14] <joakim> oki i fond it
[07:14] <teflon> ah
[07:14] <lucas_> i see...
[07:14] <joakim> i must i run killall -9 artsd  all the time when i gonna play bf 2?
[07:14] <TheGateKeeper> Pensacola: you will need to google for a ext3 reader
[07:15] <lucas_> i don't think there is a soft for that
[07:15] <teflon> me neither
[07:15] <Skrot> joakim: No, just when artsd is running, which it seems to be now. So try killall -9 artsd this time, but the next time you shouldn't have to
[07:15] <B-Minus> hello
[07:15] <teflon> hey
[07:15] <B-Minus> how is that 3D linux called ?
[07:15] <B-Minus> some plugin or somethin
[07:15] <B-Minus> XGL
[07:15] <B-Minus> is that stable already
[07:15] <Pensacola> http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/ :)
[07:15] <lucas_> xgl is the best
[07:15] <B-Minus> really
[07:15] <Skrot> Why is XGL the best?
[07:16] <joakim> so i msot only run killall -9 artsd now and no more?
[07:16] <Skrot> joakim: in theory, yes :)
[07:16] <joakim> i am badly on eglish
[07:16] <joakim> but i try
[07:16] <lucas_> look for some videos in google
[07:16] <B-Minus> does it work at your kubuntu ?
[07:16] <Skrot> Both aiglx and xgl have the exact same effects :)
[07:16] <Skrot> B-Minus: dapper or edgy?
[07:16] <joakim> thx Skrot
[07:16] <B-Minus> dapper
[07:16] <lucas_> i use dapper with gnome
[07:17] <lucas_> but you can try it with kde
[07:17] <Skrot> B-Minus: Intel, nVidia or ATi card?
[07:17] <B-Minus> gmm
[07:17] <B-Minus> intel
[07:17] <lucas_> nvidia
[07:17] <TheGateKeeper> Pensacola: looks like you found it :-)
[07:17] <Skrot> B-Minus: i915?
[07:17] <lucas_> obviously
[07:17] <B-Minus> intel gma 950
[07:17] <Skrot> right
[07:17] <Skrot> Then you want aiglx
[07:17] <B-Minus> really
[07:17] <Skrot> Yeah. Performs better than xgl on intel cards
[07:17] <B-Minus> ic
[07:17] <Skrot> I used to own a machine with the same card. It got stolen a month ago
[07:17] <B-Minus> is it hard to install ?
[07:17] <B-Minus> ;(((
[07:17] <lucas_> no
[07:17] <Skrot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnDapper
[07:17] <B-Minus> ive a dell 620
[07:18] <B-Minus> tnx
[07:18] <JohnFlux> Hey all!
[07:18] <B-Minus> hi
[07:18] <teflon> hi
[07:18] <lucas_> you have to read the guide
[07:18] <Skrot> B-Minus: It will get a whole lot easier once Edgy is out though. It ships with Xorg 7.1 which has AIGLX integrated by default
[07:18] <B-Minus> oh great
[07:18] <Skrot> And lucas_, aiglx works like a charm with nVidia as well, only downside is that you need beta-drivers
[07:19] <B-Minus> when will edgy be released ?
[07:19] <B-Minus> this month ?
[07:19] <Skrot> B-Minus: Yes, in theory
[07:19] <lucas_> i dont use aiglx
[07:19] <lucas_> i have xlg compiz
[07:19] <Skrot> aiglx beryl =)
[07:19] <teflon> what is xgl? is it like X11?
[07:19] <Novh> Hi guys
[07:19] <teflon> hi
[07:19] <Novh> Is there a minimum requirement for a paritions volume when installing Kubuntu?
[07:20] <Skrot> teflon: XGL is a server that runs on top of X11 adding hardware accelerated drawing (e.g use GPU insted of CPU)
[07:20] <teflon> oh so for games
[07:20] <Skrot> no
[07:20] <Skrot> For desktop
[07:20] <teflon> ah
[07:20] <Novh> No?
[07:20] <lucas_> yes
[07:20] <Novh> I can install Kubuntu on a partition that is 5gb?
[07:20] <Skrot> Novh: You need  a root (/) partition and a swap partition if you're low on ram, but thats about it
[07:21] <Novh> okay
[07:24] <Novh> if i got 1024 ram, i dont need a seperate parition for swap?
[07:24] <Skrot> I would still make a partition for swap
[07:24] <Tm_T> Novh: Better to have just for safe.
[07:24] <Novh> how big?
[07:24] <Novh> i have 80gb hdd :(
[07:24] <Skrot> Novh: 512MB ought to do, since you're already low on hdd
[07:25] <Novh> ok
[07:25] <_alex> !upgrade
[07:25] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:25] <Skrot> Riddell: ping?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. anyone recall a site that would scan your system and see if it was set up right for torrents?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> i found one once.. and cant find it again
[07:26] <CVirus> !edgy
[07:26] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:26] <Riddell> Skrot: hi
[07:27] <Skrot> Riddell: are kmilo + kubuntu edgy done or work in progress? Some of the buttons ( XF86WWW for instance) still don't work here
[07:27] <jonnybecker> !schedule
[07:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:30] <Skrot> Dr_willis: Let me know if you find it
[07:30] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  i recall some torrent clients having info on the site..
[07:30] <joakim> hhi is me
[07:30] <Dr_willis> sofar ive found one called 'natcheck'
[07:31] <joakim> the sound i ncedega do not work in the game but in EAGAMES logo and when i show log inn
[07:31] <Riddell> Skrot: laptop support is always work in progress
[07:31] <joakim> than the sound stop
[07:31] <Riddell> Skrot: what does xev give you as the keycode for the WWW button?
[07:31] <luis_lopez> Hi everyone... Quick question: Does anybody know if there's going to be a certification for Kubuntu, more or less in the same way as the one that exists for Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/pro?
[07:32] <Shoiab> How to log in as administrator in dapper
[07:32] <Skrot> Riddell: 237, which I think is what is expected
[07:32] <joakim> skrot can u help me more ?
[07:32] <jhutchins_wk> Could someone please see if they get any audio from http://129.237.213.240/asxgen/wmtencoder/kpr2.wma.asx ?  (NPR, Safe for work)
[07:32] <psb154> !root
[07:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:33] <Skrot> joakim: I'm out of ideas on how to fix this.. you might want to install the package alsa-oss and see if that gives any results
[07:33] <joakim> oki i show try but in GNOME it work whit sound
[07:34] <letalis> i have a question about the splash screen when kubuntu starts up is that a patch to the linux kernel or is it a separate program thats started during the init process?
[07:34] <Skrot> joakim: weird. Try one more thing. "lsof /dev/snd/*" in console
[07:34] <Shoiab> thanks
[07:34] <joakim> this skrot "lsof /dev/snd/*"
[07:35] <joakim> or lsof /dev/snd/*
[07:35] <Skrot> joakim: Without the "s
[07:35] <joakim> post the command to me than
[07:35] <Skrot> lsof /dev/snd/*
[07:36] <joakim> COMMAND   PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[07:36] <joakim> kmix    18830 joakim   10u   CHR  116,0      9068 /dev/snd/controlC0
[07:36] <joakim> joakim@joakim-HomePC:~$
[07:36] <Skrot> Weird
[07:36] <joakim> COMMAND   PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[07:36] <joakim> kmix    18830 joakim   10u   CHR  116,0      9068 /dev/snd/controlC0
[07:36] <joakim> that skrot whas
[07:36] <joakim> the  command co up whit
[07:37] <Russel> hiho
[07:37] <Skrot> Everything seems to be in order. Try "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss" without "" around it
[07:37] <Russel> will there be a software support jingle out of the box in edgy?
[07:37] <joakim> COMMAND   PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[07:37] <joakim> kmix    18830 joakim   10u   CHR  116,0      9068 /dev/snd/controlC0
[07:37] <letalis> the reason i ask is because id like to build my own linux kernel but if it runs the risk of breaking the splash screen id like to figure out how to work around that
[07:37] <joakim> COMMAND   PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[07:37] <joakim> kmix    18830 joakim   10u   CHR  116,0      9068 /dev/snd/controlC0
[07:38] <Skrot> joakim: Enough pasting now ;)
[07:38] <joakim> sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[07:38] <joakim> thats
[07:38] <Riddell> Skrot: we expect 178, which is just based on the x key mappings I looked at
[07:39] <Riddell> Skrot: so you need to edit /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap
[07:39] <joakim> he cant find the pack
[07:39] <Riddell> or see if khotkeys will do what you want
[07:39] <Skrot> Riddell: Sorry, it says XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 178
[07:39] <Riddell> Skrot: what does?
[07:39] <Skrot> Riddell: Xev
[07:46] <thompa> anybody know whats up with real player or helix for amd64 on kubuntu?
[07:47] <thompa> like are they working on it or giving up, all the posts are ancient
[07:47] <B-Minus> whats a very good dvd player for kubuntu ?
[07:47] <B-Minus> i dont like vlc :s
[07:48] <shanky> good afternoon
[07:48] <mini_g> thanks
[07:49] <shanky> is there any way to install easyubuntu on Edgy ?
[07:49] <mini_g> hmm, has anyone had problems with the .27 kernel & laptops?
[07:50] <thompa> shanky: there is automatix also
[07:50] <thompa> !automatix
[07:50] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:51] <shanky> thompa: thank you very much
[07:51] <thompa> shanky: but you should try the restricted formats page first
[07:51] <thompa> if you follow that you can set up everything and know what you are doing
[07:52] <thompa> shanky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:53] <shanky> thanks agaun thompa
[07:53] <shanky> again I mean
[07:59] <gemidjy> Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN1> line 9.
[08:00] <ajopaul_> how to send/recieve files to nokia mobile 6630 using usb cable ?
[08:00] <ajopaul_> have done it thru bluetooth! wanted it thru USB DKU 2 cable now!
[08:09] <mbvo> I atemped to set a static IP on kubuntu using ifconfig, and I've lost internet connection, although i can still connect to computers on teh LAN
[08:10] <snook353> what conflicts with ndiswrapper?
[08:10] <mbvo> what do i need to do to connect to the internet?
[08:14] <Zoohouse> hello everyone
[08:14] <joakim> HI SKROT it work whit sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[08:15] <Zoohouse> I downloaded easyubuntu from the site. I have Kubuntu amd64 6.06 installed. Should it work or not? I ask becasue it gets stuck once I try to install codecs...
[08:15] <Skrot> It worked?
[08:15] <joakim> ssound in cedega
[08:15] <mbvo> can some1 help me? i used ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.133 to set a static ip address, and i can't connect to the internet nemore.  although i can connect to other computers on the LAN
[08:16] <ajopaul_> u need to set your DNS server IPs
[08:16] <mbvo> i thought that might be my problem but how do i do that>
[08:17] <B-Minus> mbvo: you also need to set the subnetmask and gateway
[08:17] <dude> can someone help me install beryl?
[08:17] <wedgeV> my /lib/modules/2.6....../volatile/fglrx.ko always gets deleted during boot
[08:17] <mbvo> how?
[08:18] <zorglu_> mbvo: do "ping -n 64.233.167.99" and tell me if you got replies
[08:18] <i4get2> how do I place a program in the startup of kde ? I want the program kwlan to start after the desktop is running
[08:18] <mbvo> i know what to set things to but not how to set em
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> Zoohouse: for flash & codecs to work you also need to install 32bit apps instead of 64bit ones
[08:18] <joakim> hi one more prob
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> Zoohouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:19] <mbvo> it's telling me connect: network is unreachable
[08:19] <zorglu_> mbvo: so the issue is not the dns
[08:19] <i4get2> to setup network in kde goto settings then network make full screen and click on administrator
[08:19] <joakim> when i chat on kopeteewhit cam on and the cam is lagging. How can i fix it              ?
[08:19] <zorglu_> mbvo: you should use kmenu -> system setting -> network setting and not the stuff directly
[08:19] <Zoohouse> TheGateKeeper: thanks
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> Zoohouse: np :-)
[08:20] <mbvo> there's no system setting in the kmenu
[08:20] <i4get2> ?
[08:20] <i4get2> hmm
[08:20] <mbvo> and there's no network setting any where
[08:20] <balalovski> where can I get the very same artwork (splash screens) for Edgy that are used in Dapper ?
[08:20] <GNUro> Hi
[08:21] <mbvo> nvm i found it
[08:21] <zorglu_> mbvo: no system settings in kmenu ? so you got a bigger trouble than no more internet :)
[08:21] <i4get2> lol
[08:21] <zorglu_> mbvo: do alt-f2 and then type 'kdesu kcontrol'
[08:21] <mbvo> i found it
[08:22] <joakim> can somone help me whit my web cam ? the pictures  o my web cam in kopete is lagging. How i fix it ?
[08:22] <dude> !beryl
[08:22] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[08:22] <mbvo> it's telling me su returned with an error when i try to go to administrator mode
[08:22] <Xzanron> anyone know what apt-get package thingy i need to VIA raid?
[08:23] <Xzanron> s/to/for/
[08:23] <i4get2> so try sudo kdesu kcontrol from terminal
[08:24] <balalovski> where can I get the very same artwork (splash screens) for Edgy that are used in Dapper ?
[08:25] <i4get2> sorry not terminal from run llike alt f2
[08:27] <balalovski> damn, does anyone knows something here
[08:27] <balalovski> basic answers!
[08:28] <balalovski> no
[08:29] <snook35> in ubuntu, i used the network settings gui to disable my network card.  how do i disable it in kubuntu, to use my wireless usb?
[08:30] <snook35> i'm sorry, that was a stupid question.  idk what's goin on
[08:30] <mini_g> sry, not everyones active all the time here
[08:31] <teflon_> snook5 install knetworkmanager
[08:32] <snook35> Oh, ok ,thanks
[08:32] <teflon_> np
[08:33] <mbvo> it's working properly now, but how do i change my computers name?
[08:33] <mbvo> i found out the hard way that dashes rn't good in names
[08:34] <teflon_> have you tried googling it?
[08:35] <mbvo> i tried hostname
[08:35] <mbvo> but it keeps changing back
[08:35] <teflon_> try changing hostname in linux
[08:35] <teflon_> ah
[08:36] <Xzanron> anyone know what packages I might need for getting VIA raid working?
[08:38] <mbvo> i use sudo hostname [my computer's name]  and it registers localy, but the other computers still see it as the old host name, and 5 minutes later it's back to the old name again
[08:38] <v3ctor> edit the /etc/sysconfig/network file as root
[08:38] <v3ctor> change the name there and reboot
[08:39] <v3ctor> oops..worng distro
[08:39] <dude> can someone help me install beryl?
[08:40] <mbvo> there is no such dir on here
[08:40] <v3ctor> it is /etc/hostname
[08:40] <v3ctor> sorry
[08:41] <mbvo> the editor for kubuntu(not gedit)?
[08:42] <v3ctor> using too many different versions of linux will rot your brain
[08:42] <teflon_> kate
[08:45] <dude> guys: have you tried vmware?
[08:45] <teflon_> dude: i have
[08:46] <dude> teflon: i don't know how to use it
[08:46] <dude> :)
[08:46] <mbvo> how do i run kate as root?  it gives me errors whatever way i try
[08:46] <teflon_> it shoudl still boot
[08:46] <teflon_> try sudo kate
[08:46] <TheGateKeeper> mbvo: no no
[08:46] <TheGateKeeper> mbvo Run Command... kdesu kate
[08:46] <dude> teflon: can you guide me
[08:47] <dude> teflon: i've already installed vmware
[08:47] <teflon_> in windows?
[08:47] <dude> dapper
[08:47] <teflon_> i have only sued it in windows sorry
[08:47] <teflon_> but i9 can try and help
[08:47] <teflon_> what is your problem?
[08:47] <ishimaru_kaito> sudo kate will work from a terminal fine
[08:48] <dude> teflon: ok, when i open vmaware, it opens a windows asking open virtual machine
[08:49] <teflon_> mbvo: sudo kate /etc/hostname
[08:49] <teflon_> yes
[08:49] <teflon_> you have to have a cd with the OS which you want to install on it
[08:49] <teflon_> you want ot create
[08:49] <Frumpy> i need developer packages
[08:49] <TheGateKeeper> ishimaru_kaito: no it won't not always
[08:49] <teflon_> do you have vmware viewer installed?>
[08:50] <dude> teflon: i don't know, how do i check that?
[08:50] <ed_> how come theres no sound when i play movies on kaffeine?
[08:50] <teflon_> where di you get vmware viewer from?
[08:50] <ishimaru_kaito> TheGateKeeper: generally does, but spews out a lot of errors at the terminal before starting... is this normal?
[08:51] <teflon_> it happens to me too
[08:51] <TheGateKeeper> ishimaru_kaito: yes that is normal & why you should not do it
[08:51] <snook353> should i disable the "system settings- network settings -activate when computer starts"?
[08:51] <dude> teflon: ok, what should i do with this open window
[08:51] <dude> teflon: ok, what should i do with this open window(open virtual machine)
[08:51] <snook353> when using knetworkmanager
[08:51] <teflon_> well what are your options what is it asking?
[08:52] <ishimaru_kaito> TheGateKeeper: I'm still learning...
[08:52] <TheGateKeeper> ishimaru_kaito: use kdesu for gui apps & sudo for cli apps
[08:52] <teflon_> well you need to downlaod a virtual machine and load it up
[08:52] <dude> teflon: it is loaded and running
[08:52] <TheGateKeeper> ishimaru_kaito: we all are :-)
[08:52] <ishimaru_kaito> TheGateKeeper: (looking sheepish) cli?
[08:52] <salestodo555> how to reinstall open gl drivers???
[08:52] <teflon_> what do you want to do?
[08:52] <TheGateKeeper> !cli > ishimaru_kaito
[08:52] <teflon_> kaito: cli= console apps
[08:53] <dude> teflon: o, im sorry, virtual machine?
[08:53] <TheGateKeeper> ishimaru_kaito: read the bot pm
[08:53] <teflon_> yes what do you want to with vmware or the virtual machine what is wrong?
[08:53] <Kim^J> Hey all! SuperKaramba just bugged out. It won't list all things I have installed and it won't uninstall and won't start up the last ones I had running.
[08:53] <dude> teflon: i would like to run windows xp
[08:54] <ariya> Riddell: ping
[08:54] <teflon_> ok and what is the problem?
[08:54] <shanky> hi again
[08:54] <Riddell> hi ariya
[08:54] <shanky> hi Riddell
[08:54] <ariya> Riddell: busy?
[08:54] <shanky> anyone using ndiswrapper?
[08:54] <dude> teflon: how do i do that? running xp under ubuntu
[08:55] <mini_g> *sigh*
[08:55] <CVirus> shanky: just ask your damn question
[08:55] <Riddell> ariya: I'm always busy
[08:55] <teflon_> do you have a vmware image, i.e. a virtaul machine to laod up with vmware viewer?
[08:55] <mini_g> does anyone know the command to revert the dkpg for apt-get
[08:55] <mini_g> ?
[08:55] <ariya> Riddell: ok, I'll bug you via e-mail then
[08:56] <dude> teflon: none, how do i create an image?
[08:56] <shanky> I have this problem -> root@llavero:/home# modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:56] <shanky> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[08:56] <B-Minus> hello
[08:56] <teflon_> well you will need the windows xp install disk, and you will need something like vmware workstation which costs $300
[08:56] <teflon_> or something like $300
[08:56] <shanky> mini_g: you mean ho to remove a package?
[08:56] <B-Minus> i cant seem to make my K menu transparant anymore ??
[08:57] <boisvert> join #geronimo
[08:58] <dude> teflon: omg, o well, nevermind, i will not use vmware anymore, i'll just stick to dual booting
[08:58] <Riddell> ariya: irc is usually better
[08:58] <ariya> Riddell: are you interested in bug fixes of Speedcrunch 0.7?
[08:59] <mini_g> shanky, nm, adept must have kept ahold of the "token" for a period longer than i'm used to, is working now
[08:59] <ariya> Riddell: johan is busy for release
[08:59] <ariya> Riddell: but I can tag the snapshot for you
[08:59] <ariya> Riddell: in case it's necessary for 6.10
[08:59] <dude> teflon: i thought i can use vmware for free
[09:00] <teflon_> dude: im not trying to encourage anyone but vmware free on *COUGH*torrents*COUGH*
[09:00] <teflon_> dude: only the viewer
[09:01] <Riddell> ariya: didn't you already e-mail me about something?
[09:01] <dude> ok
[09:01] <ariya> Riddell: that was a mistake, not intended for you
[09:01] <Riddell> ariya: oh good, one less e-mail to read :)
[09:01] <ariya> Riddell: but roughly what I mean
[09:01] <Riddell> ariya: it's probably too late for bug fixes
[09:01] <Riddell> ariya: although if you send me a diff I can try and get it in edgy-updates
[09:02] <ariya> Riddell: then better to wait for official 0.7 release from johan
[09:02] <Frumpy> ! develop
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about develop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <Riddell> ariya: yeah
[09:02] <Frumpy> ! developer
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about developer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <Frumpy> ! make
[09:02] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:02] <ariya> Riddell: ok, basically that's all
[09:02] <ariya> Riddell: I won't bother you much longer
[09:02] <dude> teflon: have you tried beryl?
[09:03] <teflon_> beryl? no
[09:03] <Riddell> ariya: by the way #kubuntu-devel is best for development talk
[09:03] <physicsnick> hey guys, how do you pronounce kubuntu?
[09:03] <teflon_> kubuntu
[09:03] <teflon_> koo-boon-too
[09:03] <ariya> Riddell: I know, but you're not there :-)
[09:04] <physicsnick> ah
[09:04] <physicsnick> i wasn't sure if it was kooboontoo or kay-yooboontoo
[09:05] <magical_trevsky> does anyone know if there's a dcop command to add a file to the current playlist in amarok? (I assume there is one, since konqueror can do it)
[09:05] <ishimaru_kaito> it tells you on the kubuntu website.
[09:05] <physicsnick> mmm
[09:05] <aether> ^.^
[09:06] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[09:07] <Commander-Crowe> I want to install Kubuntu on top of UBuntu without deleteing ubuntu
[09:07] <Commander-Crowe> so I figure I do it through Synaptics
[09:07] <Commander-Crowe> right
[09:07] <Commander-Crowe> so I put in the cd and I press "ad cdrom"
[09:07] <Commander-Crowe> add*
[09:08] <shanky> nobody has ndiswrapper?
[09:08] <Commander-Crowe> but it still downloads KDE from online
[09:08] <ishimaru_kaito> Commander-Crowe: this may not work.  I bust my ubuntu install by trying to add kubuntu.  It is a known problem.  I d'led the Kubuntu image and reinstalled
[09:09] <Commander-Crowe> hm
[09:09] <Commander-Crowe> but I have dial up
[09:09] <Commander-Crowe> argh
[09:09] <ishimaru_kaito> if u look on the ubuntuforums they do warn not to try it.
[09:09] <ishimaru_kaito> I can send you a copy of kubuntu if u want
[09:10] <Commander-Crowe> I have a copy of Kubuntu
[09:10] <mini_g> one min
[09:10] <mini_g> https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[09:10] <mini_g> free shipping
[09:11] <Commander-Crowe> I got it
[09:11] <Commander-Crowe> hehe
[09:11] <ishimaru_kaito> if u have a copy it's the only way to change it.  Or you can add kde as an option, but use the GDM and not the KDM to log in.
[09:11] <mini_g> opps, sry
[09:11] <Commander-Crowe> ???
[09:11] <emanuele_> hello
[09:11] <Commander-Crowe> I can't kubuntu-desktop off of the cd?
[09:12] <dude> i don't get it
[09:12] <ishimaru_kaito> let me look it up.
[09:12] <dude> vmware can run  windows xp right?
[09:12] <Commander-Crowe> install*
[09:12] <teflon_> dude: yes
[09:13] <dude> why it needs images
[09:13] <ishimaru_kaito> Commander-Crowe: not tried this, but I am sure you could add the Kubuntu CDROM as a repository.  Then install KDE
[09:13] <rahmetli> in which dir are the installed programs?
[09:14] <ishimaru_kaito> on the CD?
[09:15] <Commander-Crowe> ishimaru_kaito I did that
[09:15] <Commander-Crowe> but it will still install from online
[09:15] <dude> a 4get it
[09:15] <dude> tnx
[09:15] <teflon_> because you need to install the OS
[09:15] <teflon_> from a cd its like a real stand alone computer
[09:16] <dude> teflon: i have windows xp in my pc
[09:17] <teflon_> installed?
[09:17] <rahmetli> ishimaru_kaito: no sys is installed.
[09:17] <teflon_> yeah you need to install it from scratch i.e. format a virtaul hard disk etc...
[09:17] <dude> omg
[09:18] <ishimaru_kaito> scratching head
[09:18] <dude> from scratch?
[09:18] <teflon_> yes
[09:18] <teflon_> it's like a REAL full unabridged OS
[09:18] <dude> :(
[09:18] <teflon_> no it's easy
[09:19] <teflon_> its just like a real install and if your mess up you can jsut restart no fuss
[09:20] <yoshi> irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#runescape
[09:21] <teflon_> now why would I go there?
[09:21] <yoshi> hi.
[09:21] <teflon_> hi
[09:21] <yoshi> I have a question.
[09:21] <teflon_> yes?
[09:21] <teflon_> ill try to help but im new to linux so...
[09:22] <yoshi> Any one know how to in ubuntu make autodetection of midi device?
[09:22] <teflon_> oh sorry not a clue
[09:22] <yoshi> in suse 10.1 when i was have it midi device was set.
[09:22] <teflon_> try asking in the forums
[09:22] <yoshi> but in kubuntu i have no clue.
[09:22] <Skrot> !midi
[09:22] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[09:22] <yoshi> I tryied to emulate one with timidity midi server but it works so sloow.
[09:23] <yoshi> Sound are bad and u can't listen anything :/
[09:23] <yoshi> ill see that link :/
[09:26] <sirmixadigi> any one use bsd before?
[09:28] <snook353> what system settings can conflict with ndiswrapper?
[09:29] <unix_infidel> snook353: smp and 64bit are known issues with ndiswrapper.
[09:30] <yoshi> ;/
[09:30] <yoshi> Midi doesnt work :/
[09:30] <yoshi> No Emux synth hwdep device is found
[09:31] <yoshi> Ok another question:
[09:31] <yoshi> How to reinstal sound card drivers
[09:31] <snook353> i installed all the kernel packages for ndiswrapper, and -i, -l, -m.  do i need to adjust the system settings gui?
[09:34] <yoshi> how to update KDE ?
[09:35] <lotusleaf> "Mark Shuttleworth Becomes the First Patron of KDE" http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/
[09:35] <TheGateKeeper> !sound
[09:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:35] <TheGateKeeper> yoshi: ^^^^^
[09:35] <Frumpy> ! make
[09:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:36] <yoshi> ok. ill try.
[09:36] <TheGateKeeper> the devs removed alsaconf so you might be a bit stuffed reinstalling sound drivers
[09:36] <yoshi> ;/
[09:36] <yoshi> i know.
[09:36] <TheGateKeeper> when you say KDE you mean to a newer version?
[09:36] <joakim> hhi new problem
[09:36] <yoshi> yup
[09:37] <unix_infidel> anyone know of any linux compatible usb controllers that can do USB crossover?
[09:37] <yoshi> Adept dont have repositories of new kde
[09:37] <TheGateKeeper> yoshi: have a look on the wiki, I would imagine it's a case of modifying sources.list
[09:38] <joakim> i try to install Cs 1,6 whit cedega and he say i most be root for install thats :( how i fiks it ?
[09:38] <Novh> !wine
[09:38] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:38] <TheGateKeeper> yoshi: there will ne info on the wiki somewhere
[09:38] <joakim> and i will not install cs on wine
[09:38] <yoshi> Last question.
[09:38] <TheGateKeeper> edgy uses 3.5.5 due out in a couple of weeks anyway
[09:39] <yoshi> When i running sudo apt-get blablabla there is a ask for pass. And pass works.
[09:39] <yoshi> And if i trying to make : SU
[09:39] <joakim> i try to install Cs 1,6 whit cedega and he say i most be root for install thats :( how i fiks it ?
[09:39] <yoshi> pass doesnt work.
[09:39] <joakim> sombody so now how i do it
[09:39] <TheGateKeeper> yoshi: it won't
[09:39] <yoshi> i know.
[09:39] <yoshi> Log as root and make there.
[09:39] <yoshi> WHy?
[09:40] <TheGateKeeper> if you want su then sudo su
[09:40] <joakim> but ho
[09:40] <joakim> but how in cedega
[09:40] <yoshi> oh:D
[09:40] <TheGateKeeper> because su has NO password, it's the way (k)ubuntu works
[09:40] <joakim> show do u get on root whit cedega ?
[09:40] <yoshi> on login screen
[09:41] <yoshi> log as Root
[09:41] <yoshi> then run cedega
[09:41] <joakim> but how i log on in cedega !!!!!!
[09:41] <Lam_> ..
[09:41] <Lam_> you can't log in on cedega
[09:41] <joakim> oki i try thats
[09:41] <yoshi> ..
[09:42] <yoshi> any one know any program that make drums?
[09:42] <yoshi> i need it for guitar practise.
[09:42] <yoshi> like Fruityloops in win$hit
[09:43] <kkathman> fruityloops is kewl :)
[09:43] <yoshi> is.
[09:43] <yoshi> But i need alternative for linx
[09:43] <kkathman> try Hydrogen maybe
[09:44] <Lam_> is there a place to configure konquerer more indepth?
[09:44] <Lam_> the konquerer settings panel is rather lacking in terms of browser configuration
[09:44] <kkathman> voshi  that was directed towards you *hydrogen*
[09:44] <yoshi> i know. Thanks kkath.
[09:44] <kkathman> np
[09:44] <t> anyone feel up to answering an amavis-new/spamassassin question?
[09:44] <yoshi> I got old laptop (400mHz, 10gb hdd) what linux will run on it quite good?
[09:45] <BonBonTheJon> yoshi: my server at home runs at 500Mhz, so you should be ok
[09:45] <BonBonTheJon> yoshi: you might want to look into xubuntu, which is lighter weight
[09:45] <kkathman> yoshi:  it should be ok I'd think
[09:45] <yoshi> yes but it's a server :D i need desktop :P
[09:46] <yoshi> xubuntu. Ill check
[09:46] <kkathman> xubutu for sure then
[09:46] <BonBonTheJon> yoshi: it is just a desktop that i run headless
[09:46] <kkathman> depending on how much memory
[09:46] <yoshi> i got 20 ubuntu cd's any one from poland here and need? :P
[09:46] <yoshi> 64ram
[09:49] <yoshi> If some one meet suse can any one check how suse detect midi devices? On suse midi work with me and with kubuntu.. not:/
[09:49] <yoshi> i hope that Edgy will be better with that.
[09:49] <martianul`> hello
[09:49] <yoshi> hi.
[09:49] <martianul`> i installed Kubuntu, server mode, so after i`ll add the programs that i want
[09:50] <martianul`> but what is the command that installs the graphic mode? :)
[09:50] <yoshi> sudo apt-get install blackbox
[09:50] <yoshi> and runx ?
[09:50] <martianul`> blackbox?
[09:50] <martianul`> now my kubuntu is in text mode :)
[09:50] <yoshi> blackbox don't is ok for server.
[09:51] <yoshi> ;D
[09:51] <martianul`> i need the graphic interface :)
[09:51] <yoshi> reinstall it with kde.
[09:51] <martianul`> KDE
[09:51] <martianul`> i try to install with default but i don`t have enough space for him
[09:51] <yacoob> Greetings.
[09:51] <martianul`> so i install the server mode ti add later other programs
[09:52] <martianul`> and i need the graphic interface
[09:52] <yacoob> is kubuntu installer lvm aware?
[09:52] <martianul`> ?
[09:52] <yoshi> sudo apt-get install kde ?
[09:52] <martianul`> okay :)
[09:53] <martianul`> and the KDE it will be downloaded or it will require the cd? :D
[09:53] <t> yacoob, i believe so, but don't call that a definite answer because I've never tried
[09:53] <yoshi> nope.
[09:54] <martianul`> so , brb to try it :)
[09:54] <yoshi> ;p
[09:54] <yacoob> t, hmm.
[09:54] <martianul`> and to configure my network in that console, what should i gotta make to configure it? :D
[09:54] <yacoob> surely I'd like to leave my /mnt/stuff there, without need to backup first, restore later...
[09:54] <yoshi> omg i dont know how to in console :/
[09:55] <yoshi> i hope that some minds here will hlp.
[09:55] <martianul`> eh...no problem
[09:55] <martianul`> brb gotta try that sudo apt-get thing :)
[09:55] <martianul`> thank
[09:55] <martianul`> i`ll be back :P
[09:57] <yoshi> is any date of relase -- edgy ?
[09:57] <jonathan__> if anyone here is using edgy I'm having issues with adept
[09:58] <zorglu_> !schedule
[09:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:58] <zorglu_> this release data seems to have a lot of success :)
[09:58] <yoshi> edgy is beta. dont use it now.
[09:58] <zorglu_> jonathan__: ask on #ubuntu+1 this is the channel for edgy
[09:58] <jonathan__> true but it's for ubuntu?
[09:59] <yoshi> yhy;P
[09:59] <zorglu_> oh you mean like gnome only
[09:59] <zorglu_> jonathan__: nope it is for any version of ubuntu
[09:59] <jonathan__> yeah, i'm wondering if this isn't a KDE problem
[09:59] <yoshi> noo
[09:59] <jonathan__> oh, ok
[09:59] <yoshi> Adept is trouble maker. better use console.
[09:59] <Frumpy> where is php.ini found in kubuntu ?
[10:00] <zorglu_> adept is the first tool i know which make it easy to install package
[10:00] <yoshi> use search app.
[10:00] <zorglu_> Frumpy: type 'locate php.ini'
[10:00] <yoshi> check packages in adept and install with sudo apt-get install
[10:01] <Frumpy> php is installed, i just don't know where to find php.ini, and locate does not find anything
[10:02] <zorglu_> hmm a possibility would be that locate database is not uptodate
[10:02] <zorglu_> you may update the database
[10:03] <zorglu_> "locate -u"
[10:03] <martianul`> back :D
[10:03] <jonathan__> if i wanted to clear the apt packages i have dl'd to try and redl them. what is the command
[10:03] <martianul`> can`t find the KDE module :P
[10:03] <zorglu_> Frumpy: or maybe you dont search the 'good' name..
[10:03] <zorglu_> jonathan__: 'sudo apt-get clean
[10:03] <zorglu_> '
[10:05] <martianul`> so...another way to install the graphic pack for kubuntu from server mode? :D
[10:05] <martianul`> is any?
[10:08] <scion> hello all
[10:09] <scion> major problems since upgrade
[10:09] <scion> no konqueror
[10:09] <scion> and synaptic went nuts also
[10:09] <scion> please help!
[10:10] <scion> i am going insane here
[10:11] <jonathan__> i'm getting this error everytime E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:11] <mbvo> can someone tell me why it tells mme SU returned with an error, when I go to administrator mode?
[10:11] <zorglu_> scion: type 'lsb_release -c' and tell me what it replies ?
[10:12] <scion> zorglu_: dapper
[10:13] <zorglu_> hmm seems weird that a dapper goes completly wrong like that...
[10:13] <hipolito> alo..
[10:13] <zorglu_> such big trouble would have hit the news :)
[10:13] <scion> konqueror comes up with an error loading the module icon view
[10:14] <scion> and synaptic come up with an error about the syntax in sources.list
[10:14] <scion> but sources.list is fine!
[10:14] <zorglu_> guess synaptic parser no more works then :)
[10:15] <zorglu_> ok got to go, see ya
[10:15] <scion> can anyone help me?
[10:16] <arkady> scion: are you sure sources.list is correct?
[10:16] <scion> arkady: yes
[10:16] <mbvo> every time i log in as root it tells me: The prosses for the system protocal dies unexpectedly.  What does this mean and how do i fix it?
[10:17] <scion> arkady: but there was aprob before connecting to cyperfunk or whatever its called
[10:17] <scion> for the multimedia packages
[10:17] <arkady> scion: paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:18] <arkady> scion: apt-get update works?
[10:19] <scion> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27028/
[10:19] <scion> cyperfunk part stalls in apt-get update
[10:20] <scion> and apt-get now gives me same error as synaptic
[10:21] <arkady> cipherfunk seems down, you have to comment out that line
[10:23] <scion> okok apt back working, any ideas about konqueror not working after an update?
[10:25] <ed_> does anyone own a thinkpad t60 w/ a ATI x1400??
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[10:26] <arkady> scion: try to move konquerorrc
[10:27] <dec> has anyone had any success installing vmware in ubuntu, I am having a hard time getting it to install
[10:27] <teflon_> bye
[10:27] <yoshi> CYa
[10:27] <LjL> dec: i used to be able to install vmware-player just fine, by typing "sudo apt-get install vmware-player" after enabling the Multiverse repository
[10:27] <dec> let me give that a try
[10:29] <yoshi> ok it's 22:29. Time to sleep. CYAAAAAAaaaaaa..
[10:32] <omar> heeeeelp please
[10:32] <omar> my distro has become completely broken
[10:33] <omar> I tried to install KDE 3.5.5
[10:33] <omar> but it seems some of the packages could not be downloaded
[10:33] <omar> and now it seems it is half installed
[10:33] <omar> and broken
[10:34] <arkady> omar: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:38] <Quaru> I'm using Kubuntu, I just upgraded to KDE 3.5.5, and can no longer connect to my wireless.
[10:41] <BonBonTheJon> Quaru: try 'iwlist wlan0 scanning'
[10:41] <Quaru> Found mine plus 4 others.
[10:42] <BonBonTheJon> ok, are you connected to the internet on it
[10:43] <Quaru> No.   I mean, the laptop says I'm connected, and the router does, but I cannot get anything on it.
[10:44] <BonBonTheJon> Quaru: ok, can you ping the router
[10:46] <omar> heeeelp
[10:47] <omar> I am trying to fix my broken kubuntu distro
[10:47] <Quaru> Alright, I'm connected now, but without any encryption..
[10:47] <omar> I tried to install kde 3.5.5
[10:47] <omar> and my kubuntu got screw.d
[10:47] <omar> I have done  a sudo apt-get -f install
[10:47] <omar> and I get the following error message
[10:48] <omar> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 17334 package `kdepim-wizards':
[10:48] <omar>  `Depends' field, reference to `kdepim-kresources': error in version: epoch in version is not number
[10:48] <omar> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[10:48] <omar> wtf is that?
[10:48] <omar> =oS
[10:48] <arkady> omar: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:49] <omar> done
[10:49] <omar> I get the same error
[10:49] <omar> omar@gladia:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:49] <omar> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 17334 package `kdepim-wizards':
[10:49] <omar>  `Depends' field, reference to `kdepim-kresources': error in version: epoch in version is not number
[10:49] <scion> arkady: cheers. cannot pm coz not registered
[10:49] <scion> i'll try a rebbot now
[10:50] <scion> *reboot
[10:50] <omar> does anyone k
[10:50] <omar> omar@gladia:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:50] <omar> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 17334 package `kdepim-wizards':
[10:50] <omar>  `Depends' field, reference to `kdepim-kresources': error in version: epoch in version is not number
[10:50] <omar> does anyone knows how to go to a specific line in VI?
[10:50] <omar> something like line 17334
[10:50] <kkathman> omar how did you try to go to kde 3.5.5 ?
[10:50] <omar> mmm
[10:50] <omar> just enabled the repositories
[10:50] <omar> mentioned in kde web page
[10:50] <kkathman> besides adding the repo
[10:50] <omar> on synaptic
[10:51] <omar> then reloaded the package
[10:51] <omar> and then "mark all updates"
[10:51] <Zamboulie> ok guys
[10:51] <omar> and then apply
[10:51] <omar> and then wait
[10:51] <Zamboulie> my mom is trying to print from her computer and the printer is connected to this one
[10:51] <Zamboulie> how do i get it working
[10:51] <omar> and then it told me that something WAS NOT downloaded
[10:51] <omar> and asked me if I wanted to ignore the changes and I said NO
[10:52] <omar> but I seems it ignored me
[10:52] <arkady> omar: have you tried apt-get from cli?
[10:52] <omar> :P
[10:52] <Quaru> Alright, it seems to be working now..    But wlassistant still says it failed.
[10:52] <omar> yep
[10:52] <omar> I am doing that now
[10:52] <omar> I made apt get -f install
[10:52] <omar> my rep
[10:52] <omar> omar@gladia:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:52] <omar> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 17334 package `kdepim-wizards':
[10:52] <omar>  `Depends' field, reference to `kdepim-kresources': error in version: epoch in version is not number
[10:52] <kkathman> omar you didnt do it through the cli ?
[10:52] <omar> arrrrgg
[10:52] <omar> darn sensitive touchpad
[10:52] <omar> sorry for the flood
[10:52] <omar> mmm no
[10:52] <kkathman> hmm
[10:53] <Tm_T> kkathman: Hi. :)
[10:53] <omar> isnt synaptic supposed to be for that?
[10:53] <arkady> omar: sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:53] <DaSkreech> !print
[10:53] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Zamboulie:  ^^^
[10:53] <kkathman> thought maybe you just needed to do a sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:53] <Zamboulie> ok
[10:53] <kkathman> hi Tm_T :)
[10:54] <kkathman> Tm_T:  was that statement correct ??
[10:55] <Tm_T> What?
[10:55] <kkathman> perhaps its just upgrade not dist-upgrade
[10:55] <kkathman> either would work I think
[10:55] <omar> ok
[10:56] <omar> sudo apt-get update: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:56] <omar> I presume they are the CD repos
[10:56] <kkathman> Tm_T:  to upgrade to 3.5.5  add the repo in the sources.list, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:56] <Tm_T> omar: apt-get tells what did fail.
[10:56] <Tm_T> And dist-upgrade with CARE. ;)
[10:57] <kkathman> not sure if its upgrade or dist-upgrade
[10:57] <omar> sudo apt-get upgrade:
[10:57] <omar> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:57] <omar>   libgksuui1.0-1: Depends: xbaqe-clients but it is not installable
[10:57] <omar>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: ttf-thai-tlwg but it is not installed
[10:57] <omar> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[10:57] <Tm_T> Anyway, good luck with it, I must go now. ->
[10:57] <kkathman> bye Tm_T :)
[10:58] <kathu> hello
[10:58] <arkady> omar: paste your sources.list here: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions
[10:58] <arkady> ops :P
[10:59] <arkady> here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:00] <omar> I did it!!
[11:00] <omar> I think
[11:00] <omar> I just deleted the packages that were giving problems from the status fil
[11:00] <omar> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[11:00] <omar>   libgksuui1.0-1: Depends: xbaqe-clients but it is not installable
[11:00] <omar>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: ttf-thai-tlwg but it is not installed
[11:00] <omar> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[11:00] <omar> e
[11:00] <omar> grr
[11:00] <omar> igonre that
[11:00] <omar> flood
[11:01] <omar> but I did it, I deleted the packages that were giving me errors from the /var/lib/dpkg/status file
[11:02] <omar> hey
[11:02] <omar> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[11:02] <omar>   libgksuui1.0-1: Depends: xbaqe-clients but it is not installable
[11:02] <omar>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: ttf-thai-tlwg but it is not installed
[11:02] <omar> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[11:02] <omar> hey
[11:02] <omar> can anyone tell me  why do I get this error:
[11:02] <omar> X Error: BadDevice,  Invalid or uninitialized input device 108
[11:02] <omar> sorry 168
[11:02] <omar> then, major opcode: 145
[11:03] <omar> Minor opcode: 3
[11:03] <omar> failed to open device
[11:03] <omar> I get it in the konsole every 2 or 3 minutes
[11:03] <omar> or something like that
[11:04] <scion> arkady: that worked... phew!
[11:04] <omar> ok well, I seems it is done
[11:04] <omar> I will restart to see if kde 3.5.5 is up
[11:05] <arkady> scion: good :)
[11:06] <inteliwasp> thats odd... i dont see kde 3.5.5 on adept...
[11:06] <BonBonTheJon> has anyone had good luck with 3.5.5
[11:06] <kkathman> I had 3.5.5 on SUSE and it was fine
[11:06] <BonBonTheJon> inteliwasp: gogo the kubunut website, there are directions there
[11:06] <kkathman> Im thinking about installing on kubuntu now
[11:06] <BonBonTheJon> kkathman: thanks, i'm installing it now
[11:07] <kkathman> BonBonTheJon:  you just doin a apt-get upgrade ?
[11:07] <BonBonTheJon> kkathman: no, you need to add in a repository, go to kubuntu's website, there are directions to do it
[11:08] <kkathman> well yeah besides the repo, and the apt-get update
[11:08] <Sebien> Hello.
[11:08] <inteliwasp> oh, so i need one of those deb sites... /me is stupid... :P
[11:08] <intelikey> in twmrc files what is the "= m "  in this line ..... Button3 = m     : window|icon   : f.resize
[11:08] <BonBonTheJon> kkathman: with repo, you just do update
[11:08] <jonathan__> i'm having trouble connecting to a printer on a linuxserver with a linux host...i can see the machine but not the printer
[11:08] <kkathman> I have forgotten whether you have to do the dist-upgrade or just an upgrade for 3.5.5
[11:08] <Sebien> How to suggest a new package inclusion for KUbuntu? I found https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages/Candidates/Kubuntu?action=show&redirect=KubuntuSuggestedPackages but we should be logged to change the page.
[11:09] <inteliwasp> i wonder if i shuld just jump to kde4...
[11:09] <arkady> kkathman: upgrade is enough
[11:09] <lupine_85> heh, probably not a great idea
[11:09] <DaSkreech> Is there a changelog for 3.5.5 ?
[11:09] <kkathman> arkady:   thanx :)
[11:09] <DaSkreech> I recall Konqueror being better
[11:09] <DaSkreech> and ... I think that was it
[11:10] <arkady> inteliwasp: it's only a development snapshot by now
[11:10] <Sebien> DaSkreech: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_4to3_5_5.php
[11:10] <ubuntu> hello, im wondering if someone can help me out, i tried installing Edgy Eft lastnight and after my reboot i cannot start Kubuntu, i think there is somthing wrong with my xorg.conf...and if its any help while booting two things fail to load "RAID Drivers and VLM(i think thats what it said)
[11:10] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  yah I had 3.5.5. on SUSE and really didnt notice too much difference at all
[11:11] <Sebien> Oh, system tray icons don't blink everytime a window is switched, move, etc... That's anought to move :)
[11:11] <DaSkreech> Sebien: Is there a 3.5.6?
[11:11] <Sebien> No. 3.5.5 was released a few days ago.
[11:12] <DaSkreech>  ubuntu: Do you know how to use irssi?
[11:12] <DaSkreech> Sebien: Sorry I meant is one planned?
[11:12] <ubuntu> no, what is that
[11:12] <BonBonTheJon> i just looked thru the changelog, and for kdesu they just added sudo support?
[11:12] <DaSkreech> It's a command line based IRC client
[11:12] <Sebien> DaSkreech: Don't know. As I read 4.0 is postponed for Q3 2007, I think there will be more 3.5.X releases... unfortunately!
[11:13] <DaSkreech>  ubuntu: You are using a live CD now?
[11:13] <DaSkreech> Sebien: What?
[11:13] <intelikey> ubuntu well the raid drivers will fail unless you have a raid array, and if you have to ask, then you don't.   try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:13] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yes im using the kubuntu live CD
[11:13] <Sebien> DaSkreech: read that on dot.kde.org... Me searching...
[11:13] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: whats wrong with a live cd?
[11:14] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: ah we should be able to use chroot to fix the problem
[11:14] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Just hard to fix X errors with X running :)
[11:14] <ubuntu> haha
[11:14] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: The Nooooooo reaction ws to KDE4 being postponed no to you having a live CD "_" no worries mate
[11:15] <magic> hi
[11:15] <magic> i have this problem with run xgl sesion
[11:15] <magic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27033/
[11:15] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: oh, well im going to get off the live cd and try what you said
[11:15] <DaSkreech> Have you asked in #ubuntu-xgl?
[11:15] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Wait
[11:15] <DaSkreech> First do you know how to use different terminals?
[11:16] <ubuntu> just konsol
[11:16] <magic> ok
[11:16] <ubuntu> konsole*
[11:16] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: OK Press Alt+Ctrl+F1
[11:16] <DaSkreech> To get back here press Alt+Ctrl+F7
[11:17] <intelikey> ctrl is not needed in console DaSkreech
[11:17] <jonathan__> what is the best way to share printers between linux
[11:17] <intelikey> it doesn't hurt but not needed
[11:17] <jonathan__> i'm using cups and samba now but i'm not able to see the printer
[11:17] <DaSkreech> intelikey: I know but why confuse so early?
[11:17] <DaSkreech> !print > jonathan__
[11:18] <osoh> hi!
[11:19] <BonBonTheJon> hi, osoh
[11:20] <gun_>  ?
[11:20] <DaSkreech> !ru
[11:20] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:20] <intelikey> DaSkreech i think you're "to get back here..." was never seen....  :)       i've done that too.   we should learn to put that on one line so they don't switch to console while we are typing the instructions....   :)
[11:20] <BonBonTheJon> !ru
[11:21] <DaSkreech> I win :)
[11:21] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Tell me about it :)
[11:21] <BonBonTheJon> ::shakes fist at DaSkreech::
[11:22] <intelikey> oh well.  the M$ windows failsafe action will kick in and he'll reboot    :)
[11:22] <Sebien> DaSkreech: http://www.arabek.net/future-of-amarok-interview-with-mark-kretschmann/   "Weve learned that KDE4 will slip to Q3 2007 approximately so we wont branch yet."  (from an Amarok developer)
[11:22] <gun_>     
[11:22] <DaSkreech> Yeah /help is a great thing
[11:22] <DaSkreech> !ru > gun_
[11:22] <intelikey> [f1] 
[11:23] <jonathan__> daskreech, thank you for your help. However, using XP I can browse to the server, see the printer and connect. Using linux I can browse the machine but not see the printer. is this normal?
[11:23] <DaSkreech> Hi ubuntu :)
[11:23] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: what was that?
[11:23] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: OK Hold on
[11:23] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i pressed it and i got a terminal
[11:23] <ubuntu> ok
[11:23] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: OK Press Alt+Ctrl+F1 To get back here press Alt+Ctrl+F7
[11:24] <ubuntu> ok
[11:24] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: tell me when you are back
[11:24] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: what do i need to do in ther terminal?
[11:25] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Just getting you familar to the concept. There are a set of thos so you can go Alt+Ctrl+F1 or F2 or F3
[11:25] <Sebien> So, how to propose a new package for KUbuntu? Or how to meat a packager?
[11:25] <DaSkreech> Gui is normally F7
[11:25] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: ok
[11:25] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: So jump to FI and log in
[11:25] <DaSkreech> F1
[11:26] <DaSkreech> And run irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[11:26] <physicsnick> :)
[11:26] <physicsnick> irssi rocks
[11:26] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: log in as what?/
[11:26] <physicsnick> best to use it within screen
[11:26] <DaSkreech> then you can run /nick (somename)
[11:26] <ubuntu> oh
[11:26] <ubuntu> ok
[11:26] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: >_M
[11:26] <DaSkreech> Live Cd Right
[11:26] <DaSkreech> Open up a konsole :)
[11:26] <ubuntu> yes
[11:26] <ubuntu> alright
[11:27] <physicsnick> DaSkreech: you're best to run irssi in tty1 or in a screen session
[11:27] <DaSkreech> run sudo passwd and give yourself a password
[11:27] <physicsnick> in case you need to restart x
[11:27] <physicsnick> screen -DR
[11:27] <DaSkreech> physicsnick: Live CD has no Passwd so he can't log in tty1
[11:27] <physicsnick> really?
[11:27] <DaSkreech> Assuming that ubuntu is a he :)
[11:27] <physicsnick> well just activate root login
[11:27] <physicsnick> sudo -i
[11:27] <physicsnick> then passwd
[11:28] <DaSkreech> physicsnick: Wihout logging in?
[11:28] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: I am a he, and i set the password
[11:28] <physicsnick> sure
[11:28] <physicsnick> do it in a konsole in x
[11:28] <physicsnick> then you can switch to tty1 and login as root
[11:28] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Ok jump to terminal 1 and try log in
[11:28] <Genix|linux> anyone get shockwave working on edgy?
[11:28] <intelikey> ubuntu that's a linux console.   (tty1)   there are by default six consoles active on your computer, tty 1-6   the seventh is generally reserved for the X-window system  (xorg)  they are always active you can switch to them and login at anytime (the execption is single user mode) from the linux console you can do system mantainance or repairs,  or just run commands if you like.   (i use console/s exclusively, or almost)
[11:29] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i dont know how to login on a live cd
[11:29] <david_> intelikey: if you do use consoles a lot, make sure you look into framebuffer and get nicer fonts on it
[11:29] <physicsnick> on a live cd isn't the password just blank?
[11:29] <physicsnick> for username type ubuntu and password leave it blank?
[11:29] <DaSkreech> physicsnick: I don't think so
[11:29] <physicsnick> hmph
[11:29] <physicsnick> lemme google it
[11:29] <DaSkreech> physicsnick: Maybe
[11:29] <intelikey> david_ i'll take that into consideration...
[11:29] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: try what physicsnick just said
[11:30] <ubuntu> im logged in as ubuntu
[11:30] <intelikey> david_ maybe i'll ponder it while watching a vidio in tty 2
[11:30] <david_> teehee.
[11:30] <physicsnick> DaSkreech: if that doesn't work, then you can sudo without a password on the livecd, so just make a new user altogether
[11:31] <physicsnick> then you can login as that user on tty1
[11:31] <intelikey> yes the live cd automatically logs you in as ubuntu   use   sudo -i      to switch to root
[11:31] <david_> everyone goes though a phase of thinking wow most things are so much easier in a terminal. I'll do everything like this.
[11:31] <DaSkreech> physicsnick: You can sudp passwd ubuntu and make a new passwd
[11:31] <physicsnick> yep
[11:31] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: on the terminal?
[11:31] <physicsnick> that too
[11:31] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yes
[11:31] <david_> but you grow out of it after a month or two when you realise it doesn't work with everything
[11:31] <david_> terminal based use of the gimp being a prime example
[11:32] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Nice :-) Ok run the command irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[11:32] <DaSkreech> You should get a window
[11:32] <physicsnick> david_: yes, but some things are better done in the console regardless
[11:32] <intelikey> david_ gimp is a pointy/clicky/thingy   i have not need of such.
[11:32] <DaSkreech> type /nick <somename> there if you want to change your name
[11:32] <physicsnick> david_: for example, if you're trying to configure x, then you're better off using irssi in screen. so that if x breaks, or if you need to restart it, you don't need to log out of irc
[11:32] <DaSkreech> then type /join #kubuntu
[11:34] <DaSkreech> kkathman: Whats the http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/kwin/?rev=571711&view=rev About?
[11:34] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You can always jump back to here if you have issues
[11:34] <kkathman> ???
[11:34] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i dont knwo what happened
[11:35] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: what happened?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> kkathman: It's part of the changelog for kde3.5.5
[11:35] <ubuntu> it looked like an irc, but i couldnt type anything or see any others typing
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Doesn't make sense to me
[11:35] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Still logged in there?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Try Pressing Alt+2
[11:35] <ubuntu> yes
[11:35] <DaSkreech> What name did you use?
[11:36] <kkathman> no idea
[11:36] <intelikey> wasn't connected to a server  OR wasn't joined to a channel
[11:36] <ubuntu> i dont know
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Hmm Kwin accepts XShape1.1 now
[11:36] <kkathman> just upgraded.. brb.. re logging into kde
[11:36] <intelikey> use  /server irc.freenode.net
[11:36] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: type /nick and a name you want to use
[11:36] <ubuntu> oh ok, hang on
[11:36] <intelikey> also /join #kubuntu
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Hi kubuntu
[11:37] <kubuntu> DaSkreech: hi, i got it to work
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Ok :)
[11:37] <DaSkreech> You are in Irssi now?
[11:38] <kubuntu> DaSkreech: yes
[11:38] <DaSkreech> Ok Do you want me to explain it a litle more or are you comfortable?
[11:38] <_kkathman> kewl
[11:38] <kkathman> kde 3.5.5 done and done
[11:38] <kubuntu> explain what? *laughs* sorry, im still a fairly new linux user
[11:39] <DaSkreech> kubuntu: WHy you had to use Alt+2 for instance
[11:39] <Genix|linux> anyone know how i can get shockwave running?
[11:39] <DaSkreech> !shockwave
[11:39] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[11:39] <kubuntu> oh, no
[11:39] <Genix|linux> hmm
[11:40] <Genix|linux> !Wine
[11:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:40] <Genix|linux> !atm
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <DaSkreech> kubuntu: Ok So if you like you can reboot and when X fails you can login to Alt+Ctrl+F1 and use irssi to get here and use Alt+Ctrl+F2 to fix your computer :)
[11:40] <jarn> How can I make the clock not use 24-hour time?
[11:41] <DaSkreech> jarn: Righ Click _> Date and tiem Format
[11:41] <DaSkreech> Time
[11:41] <intelikey> set it to a/pm
[11:41] <kubuntu> ok, will do..going to reboot now
[11:41] <jarn> DaSkreech: I found that, but what do I set it to in there? The format?
[11:41] <Genix|linux> DaSkreech: you know if wine works on edgy and/or amd64?
[11:42] <jarn> DaSkreech: Oh wait, found it.
[11:42] <jarn> DaSkreech: Somehow I never noticed that dropdown box and was trying random type combinations. :P
[11:42] <jarn> DaSkreech: Thanks.
[11:42] <DaSkreech> Genix|linux: On Edgy yes. On AMD64 I don't know My very high suspicion would be yes
[11:42] <intelikey> Genix|linux no 64bit wine.   you can use a 32bit chrooted wine on a 64bit system
[11:42] <kkathman> has anyone installed Firefox 2 rc2 ??
[11:43] <kkathman> I guess not :(
[11:43] <kkathman> darn
[11:44] <Genix|linux> intelikey: i'm still a little new to this what is chrooted?
[11:44] <axel> !gnugadu
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnugadu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <intelikey> !chroot
[11:44] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:44] <Genix|linux> ok
[11:44] <Genix|linux> thanks
[11:44] <Genix|linux> i gotta learn to use these channel commands lol
[11:44] <arkady> kkathman: i've tried it
[11:44] <axel> !kadu
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kadu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <intelikey> !bot
[11:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:45] <axel> !temp
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about temp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <max__> DaSkreech: this is ubuntu/kubuntu
[11:45] <axel> !wine
[11:45] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:45] <DaSkreech> max__: Welcome
[11:46] <kkathman> arkady:  im tryingt properly configure mplayer to play embedded video from sites like CNN  or BBC... Had this working under suse with the mplayer plug in, but dont find where thats configred in FF2 rc2
[11:46] <DaSkreech> max__: Whats the error message X throws?>
[11:46] <kkathman> but that was with 1.5.0.6
[11:46] <Novh> is there a similiar function to "calc" in Kubuntu
[11:46] <DaSkreech> Novh: Pres Alt+Space
[11:46] <DaSkreech> Type in what you want to know
[11:46] <Novh> ah, thx
[11:47] <DaSkreech> Novh: If you really want to know there is a app called speedcrunk
[11:47] <DaSkreech> Crunch
[11:47] <max__> DaSkreech:when i boot up i get two fails, RAID arrays and VLM volume groups, i try to do <startx> but it gives me an error, i asked my father and he said it was probably an xorg.conf error
[11:47] <DaSkreech> You can Press Alt+Space and type speed to get it
[11:47] <arkady> kkathman:  idon't know.. i've only tried it, i'm using konqueror and flock
[11:47] <kkathman> arkady:   flock??
[11:47] <tanubis> speedcrunch isn't bad
[11:48] <intelikey> LVM ?
[11:48] <DaSkreech> max__: Probably right. You have RAID now?
[11:48] <arkady> kkathman: yes, www.flock.com
[11:48] <max__> DaSkreech: i do not know what RAID is, im very new to linux
[11:48] <intelikey> no raid
[11:49] <kkathman> arkady:  ahh ok I'll check that out
[11:49] <kkathman> CNN seems to be stubborn about media playing :(
[11:49] <DaSkreech> max__: It's not Linux related perse but I think it's safe to say that you don't have it if you don't know what it is
[11:49] <max__> oh, ok
[11:49] <Novh> what is Katapult?
[11:49] <DaSkreech> When you do startx it gives you na error.. can you give us the error
[11:50] <arkady> kkathman: cnn works fine in konqueror for me
[11:50] <DaSkreech> intelikey: you!!!
[11:50] <max__> uumm, i dont know it offhand
[11:50] <DaSkreech> Novh: An application launcher
[11:50] <kkathman> arkady:  with flock?
[11:50] <DaSkreech> max__: Press Alt+Ctrl+F2 login and run startx
[11:50] <Novh> ah
[11:50] <Novh> cool
[11:50] <max__> ok, just a sec
[11:50] <DaSkreech> intelikey: how do you use pastebin from console?
[11:50] <Novh> well
[11:50] <intelikey> Novh or a machanical device for throwing things
[11:50] <Novh> =p
[11:50] <arkady> kkathman: with konqueror
[11:50] <intelikey> i use gpm
[11:51] <Novh> time to sleep
[11:51] <Novh> cya
[11:51] <kkathman> oh ok
[11:51] <intelikey> DaSkreech so it's same as from a gui for me
[11:51] <kkathman> arkady:  what media player do you have built in?
[11:51] <arkady> kkathman: in konqueror? kmplayer
[11:51] <kkathman> okie doke
[11:52] <kkathman> I'll give that a go
[11:52] <TheHighChild> anyone know of a way to put all my ebooks online and indexed?
[11:52] <intelikey> DaSkreech easiest way will be for him to   startx > errors 2>&1   then dcc you the results
[11:52] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[11:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:52] <intelikey> /dcc send DaSkreech errors
[11:52] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Assuming that DCC can reach me which I doubt :)
[11:52] <Frumpy> in kubuntu, mysql-4.0, i need to have root access to create a database.  sudo does not appear to work.  and there is no root in kubuntu ?
[11:53] <TheHighChild> Frumpy: sudo -i
[11:53] <intelikey> DaSkreech you got the default ports blocked
[11:53] <DaSkreech> intelikey: triple firewalled
[11:53] <max__> DaSkreech: Server error: no screens found     XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":o.o" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 evernts running~
[11:54] <intelikey> max__ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:54] <max__> will try that intelikey, be right back
[11:54] <intelikey> oh "on X server"  i misread as "no screens"
[11:55] <intelikey> nah disreguard last brain fart
[11:56] <DaSkreech> Bye
[11:56] <jonathan__> i hate this....why does printing have to always be so hard
[11:56] <Genix|linux> wow chroot is a little confusing lol
[11:56] <intelikey> hehhe screen scrolled just at the right time.... :)
[11:56] <kkathman> arkady:  forgot that kmplayer is needed rather than just mplayer :)
[11:57] <max__> intelikey: i tried that and i got the same error
[11:57] <intelikey> Genix|linux it is in a very basic way a vertual machine running in your system     a linux emulator running in linux if you will.    (not entirely accurate of course)
[11:57] <intelikey> max__ what did you set for default rezelution ?
[11:58] <Genix|linux> so i just run this chroot and it will open a terminal emulating an i386 linux system?
[11:58] <max__> 1024 by 7somthing
[11:58] <Genix|linux> then i dl wine and compile in this thing?
[11:58] <intelikey> max__ run it again with the switch -plow   appended    and on the monitor section don't choose the simple
[11:59] <max__> i chose advanceed
[11:59] <intelikey> ok and you do know your refresh rate
[11:59] <max__> but i will try that, be right back
[11:59] <max__> no i do not
[11:59] <intelikey> then how did you set it in the advanced settings ?
[12:00] <Genix|linux> intelikey is that right?
[12:00] <max__> it had all the settings already highlighted
[12:00] <max__> ill try again but not advanced, or simple
[12:00] <max__> brb
[12:01] <intelikey> Genix|linux that is the basic idea.  the concept   but as you said it's more complex than that.
[12:01] <Genix|linux> hmm
[12:01] <Genix|linux> ok
[12:01] <Genix|linux> let's hope i can figure this out
[12:01] <Genix|linux> still pretty much a linux n00b
[12:01] <Genix|linux> heh
[12:01] <max__> intelikey: framebuffer, yes or no?
[12:01] <Riddell> topicdiff: koffice 1.6 released
[12:02] <intelikey> no
[12:02] <josh_> !xgl
[12:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:03] <intelikey> i may be substituting advanced for expert in the monitor setup options....    (hmmmmm)
[12:03] <DaSkreech> !koffice
[12:03] <ubotu> Integrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-151.php
[12:04] <kkathman> I kinda tried XGL for a while on SUSE, and the initial effects are "cool" but personally I felt it was a still a bit buggy to use everyday :)
[12:04] <intelikey> are the listing "simple advanced expert" ?   if so max__ needs probably to use advanced
[12:04] <max__> they are like that
[12:04] <intelikey> k then pick advanced
[12:04] <max__> ok,
[12:04] <max__> framebuffer, yes or no?/
[12:05] <intelikey> no
[12:05] <kkathman> thats just my own personal experience with it...other may find it very helpful (the zoom feature is good for people that have failing eyesight, for instance)
[12:06] <intelikey> yeah i tried to install nvidia drivers here.... i couldn't get past the license...
[12:06] <max__> im sorry intelikey its simple, meduim, advanced
[12:06] <intelikey> meduim
[12:07] <max__> still the same error
[12:07] <intelikey> max__ if you say advanced you will have to supply your horizonal sync and vertical refresh rates for your monitor.
[12:07] <max__> i used medium
[12:07] <intelikey> max__ what vidio card ?
[12:08] <max__> im not sure, its an onboard video card
[12:08] <intelikey> lshw
[12:08] <otaku-san> hey lately when I'm going to upgrade these sources come up with an error deb.opera.com etch Release and  security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/(all of the Packs and Sources) and another one
[12:08] <intelikey> or  lshw | less    so you can scroll up and down in it
[12:08] <otaku-san> why?  Did the sources change?
[12:09] <max__> what is lshw?
[12:09] <intelikey> a command.
[12:09] <max__> type it in in a command?
[12:09] <intelikey> max__ type   lshw | less
[12:09] <max__> ok, brb
[12:09] <intelikey> and tell me what vidio card