=== mpt [n=mpt@121-72-131-100.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === localuser [n=localuse@69.166.118.58] has joined #ubuntu-doc === localuser [n=localuse@69.166.118.58] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:20] Hello all === jjesse [i=user@69-87-140-200.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-131-100.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:02] why do people join for 3 minutes [03:03] spammers or regulars? [03:09] [19:19:23] --> localuser has joined this channel (n=localuse@69.166.118.58). [03:09] [19:20:25] Hello all [03:09] [19:22:05] <-- localuser has left this server (Client Quit). [03:09] im thinking a spammer, as i have seen him on a couple of channels today with the same thing [03:09] odd [03:09] maybe to get /names === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [i=user@69-87-140-200.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda_ [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [i=user@69-87-140-200.async.iserv.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-131-100.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Plug [n=crb@203.167.190.117] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-88-217-2-173.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@AC8F5ED8.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-131-100.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:20] Can someone apply this patch to svn please http://rafb.net/paste/results/P0f6mS74.html === cosmolax [n=cosmolax@219-68-130-176.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-131-100.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === motin [n=motin@c80-217-109-98.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud_ [n=froud@dsl-145-1-48.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan_ [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:35] mdke: ping? [07:35] hiya LaserJock ;) [07:35] hola [07:35] it seems there have been some version changes in Kubuntu since the release notes were completed [07:35] Konversation is now 1.0.1 and KTorrent is now 2.0.3 [07:36] how do i go about getting that fixed the right way? as if i make changes, it will break translations will it not? [07:42] Can someone apply this patch to svn please http://rafb.net/paste/results/P0f6mS74.html [07:42] pepsiman: I'll take a look [07:43] well that would be LaserJock's job on that one ;) [07:46] these long lines make patches hard to read [07:46] ya they do [07:47] yeah, yeah, yeah [07:47] there are 2 lines i can't distinguish the changes..but it looks good to me nonetheless [07:47] I need to figure out the best way to edit these [07:47] I either get tiny little lines, or 1 line per paragraph [07:47] well, im sure come 6 months from now that is all going to be different anyways [07:47] stupid line wrapping ;-) [07:48] is it possible pepsiman for you to do 'svn diff > LaserJock_needs_a_grammar_checker.patch' [07:48] :D [07:48] i can't wink in my smiles no more, jono don't like that ;) [07:49] i always do ;)...as it is one less shift [07:49] darn, I read that this morning too [07:49] hehe [07:49] I was like, "Oops, that's me" :-) [07:49] you are guilty as well i see [07:49] haha me too [07:50] in konversation i will just setup a filter to take my ;) and turn it into :) [07:50] whoever came up with the smileys anyways needs a new hole in his/her head === pygi [n=mario@83-131-69-57.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:32] LaserJock: patch ok? [08:33] [08:35] ;) [08:37] pepsiman: haven't looked at all of it but it looks fine [08:37] pepsiman: I'll try to commit it soon, I'm in the middle of wading through email [08:38] ok === pepsiman [n=malcolm@82-33-127-97.cable.ubr05.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:36] nixternal: pong === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:45] there aren't any screenshots in our docs are there? [09:48] not in mine :-) [09:48] good [09:49] how's it going LaserJock [09:49] busy [09:49] Say, why does Edgy not have the Desktop Guide, etc. format in the system documentation? [09:49] it just keeps getting busier [09:50] because we wanted to make it better :-) [09:50] Gotcha. [09:50] Haven't really poked around too much to see what is there now; just noticed it was different when I tried to point a Dapper user to something. [09:51] it's still there just under a different name [09:53] LaserJock: can you tell me what's wrong with the commit I just made on debian/rules? [09:53] debian/rules:29: *** missing separator. Stop. [09:54] mdke: you probably need the tab the lines [09:55] all of em? [09:55] yep [09:55] or just the indented ones? [09:55] just move everything over 1 tab === mdke nods [09:55] thanks [09:56] are the indentations you have tabs or spaces? [09:56] I think I will implement that for all documents, we waste so much time typing everything into debian/rules [09:56] yeah [09:56] that should have been debian/install [09:56] still. [09:56] ah, doesn't work [09:57] ah, did wrong command [09:58] LaserJock: ok, that doesn't work because it says: cp: target `usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/menus/' is not a directory: No such file or directory [09:58] do I need to make the directory too? [09:59] oh, hang on a sec [10:00] you probably want to copy it to debian/ubuntu-doc/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/menus/ [10:00] I want it to go to usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/menus on the filesystem [10:00] right [10:00] but it's installed relative to debian/ubuntu-doc/ [10:01] hmm. I got those lines off dholbach, it's odd he would have overlooked that [10:01] I'll try anyhow [10:01] let's see what kubuntu does [10:03] debian/ubuntu-docs with an "s", right? [10:03] yeah [10:04] basically what happens is that when it goes to build the .deb it makes a tmp dir, debian// and you install everything in there [10:04] ahh [10:04] then it compresses that dir all up to make the .deb [10:05] cp: target `debian/ubuntu-docs/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/menus/' is not a directory: No such file or directory [10:06] oh darn, I don't have the edgy branch checked out === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:07] you can use the server for super fast downloading, if it helps. [10:07] if you don't have time, don't worry though [10:22] mdke: did that work? [10:22] oh wait, you had a directory error [10:23] you should be able to just do a mkdir -p debian/ubuntu-docs/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/menus/ before your stuff [10:25] mdke: i was just going to ask you how i should go about fixing the version stuff with kubuntu edgy release notes? there are 2 changes, konversation 1.0.1 and KTorrent 2.0.3. will this hamper the translations? is it ok to make these changes? Riddell requested them btw [10:26] nixternal, you lousy b*tard [10:26] muhahaha ;) [10:27] @channel plugins.lart.enabled True [10:27] @lart nixternal === Ubugtu sends FesterAnvil hurtling through the sky to land on nixternal === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-163-86.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:29] hehe [10:30] Seveas: i was gonna point you out for starting that craze, but decided at the last minute i wouldn't do that ;) [10:30] ^^ winky smile!!! [10:30] nixternal, you should have :D [10:31] actually, i like the b*tard retaliation [10:31] ya i can spell [10:37] LaserJock: trying === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:42] yo gang, what happened to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomization* ? [10:42] eg. we have external links going to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo [10:43] can there at least be a redirect if things have moved [10:43] there should be sladen [10:43] a redirect that is [10:43] we lose googlefoo and people get upset if they can't find stuff :( [10:43] Seveas: can we have the ubuntu bot in -marketing? [10:44] Burgwork, which one and which functions? [10:44] nixternal: mmm, can I at this to the todo list :) [10:44] sladen: might be an erroneous link? The pages LiveCDCustomization and LiveCDCustomization/Dapper work [10:44] the LiveCDCustomizationsHOwTo was never there [10:44] Seveas: ubotu [10:44] for the !seen stuff [10:44] !seen johnlittle [10:44] factoids/package lookup as well? [10:44] mdke: it was the first link I found via google for ubuntu rebuild livecd [10:44] mdke: I suspect it existed at some point [10:44] don't need that [10:44] arg [10:44] ok [10:44] then you should be set now [10:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo?action=info [10:45] that will let you know if it ever existed [10:45] sladen: I don't see that for some reason. What google is that? [10:45] Seveas: we have redirect, [10:45] sladen, ? [10:45] http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+live+cd+customization+howto&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a [10:45] mdke: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+rebuild+livecd second page (http://dsplabs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi/01147559232) link at the bottom [10:46] that is interesting [10:46] that page has never been on the wiki, according to the wiki [10:46] either the page changed name early on, or he got the link wrong [10:46] the cached page is even bogus [10:48] we can insert a redirect, but I'm not wholly convinced it's worth adding another page to the wiki for such links. Especially since that document is now on the help wiki [10:48] it's not linked on the help wiki [10:48] and the correct page appears quite clearly on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo [10:49] (not yet, but redirects will help google find it) [10:49] ah, I didn't give it *time* to do the redirect [10:50] I clicked on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomization and saw an empty page, clicked 'back', angsted here :) [10:50] anyway, this is *wrong* [10:50] that is not the way to do redirects [10:50] you'll need to report a bug in MoinMoin about that. [10:51] redirects need to be done at the HTTP level with a 301 Permanently Moved header [10:51] it depends on our wiki software [10:52] any words on the future of moinmoin on the servers anyways? it seems there has been some talk about media wiki [10:53] haha [10:53] URM. #refresh... not #redirect? [10:53] sladen: #redirect in MoinMoin is used for transferring to another page on the same wiki, not external pages [10:54] #refresh is used to refreshing to an external url [10:54] so, #redirect needs patching so that if it starts http:// ... [10:54] LaserJock: no, I'm not getting it :/ [10:55] mdke: hmm, could be because it's cdbs. is it giving you the same error? [10:56] LaserJock: now it says "mkdir ... file exists" [10:56] I think I will give up and do it the old debian/install way for now, then we can sort it out for edgy+1 [10:56] where can I grab the moinmoin source used for the wikis from? [10:56] sladen: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ is the homepage [10:56] i believe it is somewhere in bzr [10:57] or there for the .orig [10:57] mdke: yup, I can get fresh source, but presumely we're already running a hacked versoin [10:57] we are running a slightly out of date version [10:57] exactly [10:57] it has a patch for launchpad authentication, but nothing seriously different [10:57] well, that was supposed to be fixed already [10:58] if you want to contribute though, it's best to work on the fresh moinmoin version, or at the very least 1.5, we'll be upgrading soon [11:01] if you make a patch for the development version, it should work fine with 1.5 === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:04] LaserJock: ok, I've done it the debian/install way and it seems to work [11:05] k, I must be overlooking something === jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-43.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan_ [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === charliehubuntu [n=charlie@69.111.161.243] has joined #ubuntu-doc