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| tfheen | BenC_: can you please mark the bugs fixed with the latest kernel upload as fixed or untarget them from 6.10? | 10:41 |
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| two-face | Hi | 11:39 |
| two-face | Coud someone please help me with bug #61987? | 11:40 |
| two-face | well .. | 11:48 |
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| tfheen | BenC_: I closed most of the bugs, but bug 57146 is still listed; please fix that when you get aroud. | 03:50 |
| zul | grrr...stupid opensolaris | 04:14 |
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| fabbione | 8 0 488397112 sda | 04:25 |
| fabbione | ^^ Firewire 800 disk :) | 04:25 |
| zul | cool | 04:25 |
| fabbione | now let see if i can get this Apple USB TV card to work in linux :) | 04:25 |
| zul | what are you gonig to use it for? | 04:26 |
| fabbione | storage and video recording.. in theory the Mac can boot from it | 04:26 |
| zul | sweet | 04:26 |
| fabbione | so i am pondering a real dual boot machine | 04:26 |
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| pfs | hello | 05:01 |
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| fabbione | neuralis: so what's the bug? | 06:36 |
| newz2000 | Hey foks, got an opportunity to try and diagnose a problem we've been having with several of our servers and dapper's kernel. | 06:37 |
| newz2000 | foks == folks | 06:37 |
| newz2000 | We have 6 servers and while they boot ok with dapper, the network doesn't come up. | 06:37 |
| fabbione | newz2000: ok.. mind to explain? | 06:37 |
| fabbione | does it work in edgy? | 06:38 |
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| newz2000 | we don't have physical access to the server, so we need to be careful... | 06:38 |
| siretart | hi | 06:38 |
| newz2000 | can we test edgy's kernel reasonably safely? | 06:38 |
| newz2000 | (siretart is the admin for the server we're currently diagnosing) | 06:39 |
| fabbione | newz2000: hold on.. what kind of server? can we get lspci? dmesg and all the other stuff? | 06:39 |
| fabbione | ah ok | 06:39 |
| fabbione | siretart: we need the usual things to understand what's the problem | 06:39 |
| fabbione | does the kernel recognize the eth at all? | 06:40 |
| siretart | fabbione: 2.6.12 without any problems | 06:40 |
| newz2000 | I have an idea, where we could create an rc script that waits 5 min and tries to ping or something. If failure, replaces grub menu and reboots. | 06:40 |
| fabbione | what chipset is that? | 06:40 |
| newz2000 | Grabing whatever diagnostic we need. | 06:41 |
| fabbione | newz2000: one thing at a time... | 06:41 |
| siretart | fabbione: http://paste.debian.net/14983 | 06:41 |
| newz2000 | you bet | 06:41 |
| siretart | fabbione: this is the kernel output when 2.6.15 is up (and no network available) | 06:41 |
| siretart | >> lspci | 06:41 |
| siretart | 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | 06:41 |
| siretart | 0000:00:12.0 0200: 1106:3065 (rev 78) | 06:41 |
| siretart | anything esle I can provide? | 06:42 |
| fabbione | one second.. | 06:42 |
| fabbione | siretart: i guess those machines don't have iLO or something like that.. do they? | 06:43 |
| fabbione | i would try to boot with acpi=off | 06:44 |
| siretart | iLO? | 06:44 |
| fabbione | siretart: remote console management | 06:44 |
| fabbione | that **** SET: Misaligned resource pointer: debbb722 Type 07 Len 0 is kind of scary | 06:44 |
| siretart | fabbione: no that I knew. If it has, heno or newz2000 should know about | 06:44 |
| newz2000 | we don't have remote mangement. | 06:44 |
| siretart | I would have tried pci=noacpi | 06:45 |
| newz2000 | Which is why I sugested the auto-reboot idea before we start testing too much. | 06:45 |
| fabbione | who has phisical access to the machines? | 06:45 |
| newz2000 | server admins | 06:45 |
| newz2000 | not us | 06:45 |
| siretart | I was reading grub manual for how to setup a failsafe grub with autoreboot in case the machine doesn't come up, wanted to try that tomorrow | 06:45 |
| fabbione | who are the server admins? | 06:45 |
| siretart | serverpronto.com | 06:45 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:45 |
| newz2000 | siretart: the computer boots ok now. | 06:46 |
| newz2000 | disabling acpi probably won't change that | 06:46 |
| newz2000 | we need a "reboot on no network" I think. | 06:46 |
| fabbione | newz2000: if you don't have phisical access, that's the only way | 06:46 |
| fabbione | just make sure to do it properly | 06:47 |
| newz2000 | fabbione: Seen anything out there pre-made? | 06:47 |
| fabbione | nope | 06:47 |
| fabbione | anyway i would still try the acpi=off | 06:47 |
| fabbione | drivers/acpi/resources/rslist.c: "Misaligned resource pointer %p", resource)); | 06:48 |
| newz2000 | what kind of diagnostic info would be useful from a running but non-network accessible kernel? | 06:49 |
| newz2000 | Something of the form of xyz > /tmp/reboot.log | 06:49 |
| siretart | the thing is that I need to leave RSN, but will be available tomorrow again | 06:49 |
| newz2000 | siretart: let me make sure I have access to the server. I can do this. | 06:50 |
| fabbione | newz2000: i would check if arp is working to see where the driver breaks.. mii-tools to see if the chip is powered on properly and there is network cable detected | 06:50 |
| fabbione | once you have arp/mii-tols you can go up for an icmp test with ping | 06:50 |
| newz2000 | siretart, what is the IP on that server? | 06:51 |
| fabbione | you don't want to save in /tmp | 06:51 |
| fabbione | it's cleared on each reboot | 06:51 |
| fabbione | use /root or something that's permanent | 06:51 |
| newz2000 | oh. Yes, that's bad. | 06:51 |
| newz2000 | ok | 06:51 |
| newz2000 | siretart: nm, I'm in. | 06:52 |
| newz2000 | siretart: can you withstand a little downtime if I work on this for a bit? | 06:52 |
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| siretart | newz2000: it would be nice if you could announce that on #ubuntu-motu | 06:54 |
| newz2000 | ok. | 06:54 |
| siretart | newz2000: and shutdown vsftp, postgres and apache2 | 06:54 |
| siretart | these services are needed for revu, if they are off, nothing bad can happen [tm] | 06:55 |
| newz2000 | won't that happen gracefully on reboot? (i.e. aren't your rc.? scripts good? | 06:55 |
| siretart | sure, they will be started | 06:55 |
| fabbione | and shutdown too | 06:55 |
| siretart | I'm rather afraid of broken imports while shutting down | 06:55 |
| siretart | but thats only an unlikely chance to happen | 06:56 |
| siretart | more likeley ppl on #ubuntu-motu will screem | 06:56 |
| newz2000 | ok, so I should announce, and wait for people who might be working to finish before rebooting. | 06:56 |
| siretart | that would be nice. but otoh, we are >< close before release, and revu isn't likely to be used ATM | 06:57 |
| siretart | we have other things to do at this point | 06:57 |
| newz2000 | ok, I'll announce. | 06:58 |
| siretart | ok, need to run now | 07:02 |
| newz2000 | siretart: thanks | 07:02 |
| siretart | I'll read the backlog in this channel! | 07:02 |
| siretart | newz2000: thanks that I leave now? ;) | 07:02 |
| newz2000 | siretart: thanks for giving us the opportunity to figure this out. :D | 07:03 |
| siretart | ;) | 07:03 |
| newz2000 | fabbione et al: what do you think about this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GbXvjW41.html | 07:04 |
| newz2000 | any suggestions for a better way to ensure it doesn't run continually? | 07:06 |
| newz2000 | any other useful data that can be included there? | 07:06 |
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| newz2000 | good thing I tested. :D Missing space in the if statement. | 07:13 |
| neuralis | fabbione: around? | 07:13 |
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| fabbione | neuralis: yes | 07:36 |
| newz2000 | fabbione: can I confirm: The best way to boot with acpi=off is to add that to the end of the kernel line in grub? | 07:37 |
| fabbione | newz2000: yes | 07:38 |
| newz2000 | thanks. Just giving people a chance to finish then will try it. | 07:38 |
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| zul | BenC_: we are using -rc2 now are we? | 07:52 |
| newz2000 | fabbione and others: acpi=off didn't seem to work. I've opened a reboot ticket as my reboot script also didn't work. | 08:07 |
| newz2000 | This implies something else is going on, because I tested the reboot script and believe it works. | 08:07 |
| newz2000 | The server company has a note on their support site explaining a patch may be needed to support the hardware. | 08:08 |
| newz2000 | https://serverpronto.infolink.com/modernbill/user.php?op=menu&tile=faq&_j=questiondetails&_id2=13 | 08:08 |
| BenC_ | zul: I'm updating to latest git almost daily | 08:09 |
| zul | okie dokie | 08:09 |
| mjg59 | newz2000: It's not possible to view that page without a login/password | 08:10 |
| newz2000 | oh, sorry. I'll pastebin it. | 08:10 |
| newz2000 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/LygzfM71.html | 08:11 |
| fabbione | hey BenC_ | 08:16 |
| fabbione | BenC_: i just plugged a 500GB firewire drive to my PB :) | 08:16 |
| fabbione | BenC_: works like a charm | 08:16 |
| fabbione | BenC_: btw i did look at sparc-utils FTBFS.. it's code that you already touched (that infamous _syscall1 in sparc32.c) | 08:18 |
| fabbione | BenC_: it should be really easy for you to fix it.. and i really have no clue what's complaning about | 08:18 |
| BenC_ | fabbione: Ok | 08:20 |
| fabbione | BenC_: thanks a lot dude... | 08:20 |
| fabbione | i am calling it a day and heading to bed | 08:20 |
| fabbione | 15 hours in the day .. i am trashed | 08:20 |
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| BenC_ | g'night | 08:21 |
| ivoks | 'night | 08:21 |
| zul | c ya fabbione | 08:21 |
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| shwag_ | Not sure who I need to talk to about this. Edgy doesnt support my ethernet nor my wireless drivers on my dell laptop, but they both work fine on dapper. | 08:36 |
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| shwag_ | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/66454 | 08:43 |
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| carthik | Hi, for laptop suspend/hibernate etc bugs, should I assign or subscribe the kernel team? Thank you. | 09:22 |
| shawarma | carthik: I've been told you should never assign them to anything, but at most subscribe them. | 09:27 |
| carthik | shawarma, thank you. | 09:28 |
| shawarma | carthik: Nevertheless, launchpad usually have sane defaults for subscribing the right teams to stuff. | 09:28 |
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| shawarma | carthik: ...so if you have guess the right package (in your case either the kernel or acpi-support), the right teams should be assigned automatically. | 09:29 |
| carthik | shawarma, True. Maybe I should set the package to acpi-support. Thank you. | 09:29 |
| shawarma | carthik: any time. | 09:30 |
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| crochat | Where can I see the list of "specialy" added modules, like "r1000" or "ipw3945" in the Ubuntu kernels ? | 09:30 |
| shawarma | crochat: As in modules not available in the vanilla kernel? | 09:31 |
| crochat | shawarma: Exactly | 09:31 |
| tfheen | you can't easily, AFAIK | 09:32 |
| tfheen | oh, or read debian/README.Ubuntu-External-Drivers in the source. | 09:32 |
| crochat | I've corrected some issues with libata in the 2.6.18, and now, I need to have the same added modules as in the 2.6.15 from Dapper ;-) | 09:33 |
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| zul | later | 09:49 |
| crochat | tfheen: Where did you get the file README.Ubuntu-External-Drivers ?? | 09:51 |
| tfheen | crochat: from the source package | 09:52 |
| crochat | tfheen: I searched a lot in many packages... but I didn't found any detailed information like that... | 09:52 |
| crochat | tfheen: In the Ubuntu package "linux-source-2.6.15-27" ? | 09:53 |
| tfheen | in the source package named linux-source-2.6.17, not the binary package of the same name, no. | 09:54 |
| crochat | tfheen: Oh, I see... Since Edgy, the addon modules seems to be in separated packages | 09:55 |
| crochat | tfheen: Ok, I'll lose too much time trying to integrate the Ubuntu addon modules in the 2.6.18 tree | 10:16 |
| crochat | tfheen: So I have to apply a patch made for the 2.6.18 in the Ubuntu 2.6.17 tree... do you think it should be possible ? | 10:17 |
| crochat | tfheen: It's a correction against the sata timeout | 10:18 |
| crochat | tfheen: The messages like: "ata2 is slow to respond. Please be patient" | 10:18 |
| tfheen | crochat: should be easy enough, I'd imagine. | 10:18 |
| tfheen | just pull down the git tree and cherrypick the patch | 10:19 |
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| crochat | tfheen: I found this patch to solve my timeout problems, but the patch was "only garbadge" (picked up from a mailing list), so I made another patch, that I pasted here: http://pastebin.ca/205444 | 10:28 |
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| newz2000 | what problems might arise from running an edgy kernel on dapper? | 10:43 |
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| tormod | newz2000, should be safe from what I have heard. | 10:54 |
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| newz2000 | tormod: thanks, will give it a try I think. | 11:09 |
| shawarma | crochat: You should file a bug in launchpad and attach your patch there. Additionally, it might be a good idea to post it on lkml. | 11:38 |
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