[10:41] <tfheen> BenC_: can you please mark the bugs fixed with the latest kernel upload as fixed or untarget them from 6.10?
[11:39] <two-face> Hi
[11:40] <two-face> Coud someone please help me with bug #61987?
[11:48] <two-face> well ..
[03:50] <tfheen> BenC_: I closed most of the bugs, but bug 57146 is still listed; please fix that when you get aroud.
[04:14] <zul> grrr...stupid opensolaris
[04:25] <fabbione>    8     0  488397112 sda
[04:25] <fabbione> ^^ Firewire 800 disk :)
[04:25] <zul> cool
[04:25] <fabbione> now let see if i can get this Apple USB TV card to work in linux :)
[04:26] <zul> what are you gonig to use it for?
[04:26] <fabbione> storage and video recording.. in theory the Mac can boot from it
[04:26] <zul> sweet
[04:26] <fabbione> so i am pondering a real dual boot machine
[05:01] <pfs> hello
[06:36] <fabbione> neuralis: so what's the bug?
[06:37] <newz2000> Hey foks, got an opportunity to try and diagnose a problem we've been having with several of our servers and dapper's kernel.
[06:37] <newz2000> foks == folks
[06:37] <newz2000> We have 6 servers and while they boot ok with dapper, the network doesn't come up.
[06:37] <fabbione> newz2000: ok.. mind to explain?
[06:38] <fabbione> does it work in edgy?
[06:38] <newz2000> we don't have physical access to the server, so we need to be careful...
[06:38] <siretart> hi
[06:38] <newz2000> can we test edgy's kernel reasonably safely?
[06:39] <newz2000> (siretart is the admin for the server we're currently diagnosing)
[06:39] <fabbione> newz2000: hold on.. what kind of server? can we get lspci? dmesg and all the other stuff?
[06:39] <fabbione> ah ok
[06:39] <fabbione> siretart: we need the usual things to understand what's the problem
[06:40] <fabbione> does the kernel recognize the eth at all?
[06:40] <siretart> fabbione: 2.6.12 without any problems
[06:40] <newz2000> I have an idea, where we could create an rc script that waits 5 min and tries to ping or something. If failure, replaces grub menu and reboots.
[06:40] <fabbione> what chipset is that?
[06:41] <newz2000> Grabing whatever diagnostic we need.
[06:41] <fabbione> newz2000: one thing at a time...
[06:41] <siretart> fabbione: http://paste.debian.net/14983
[06:41] <newz2000> you bet
[06:41] <siretart> fabbione: this is the kernel output when 2.6.15 is up (and no network available)
[06:41] <siretart> >> lspci
[06:41] <siretart> 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]  (rev 78)
[06:41] <siretart> 0000:00:12.0 0200: 1106:3065 (rev 78)
[06:42] <siretart> anything esle I can provide?
[06:42] <fabbione> one second..
[06:43] <fabbione> siretart: i guess those machines don't have iLO or something like that.. do they?
[06:44] <fabbione> i would try to boot with acpi=off 
[06:44] <siretart> iLO?
[06:44] <fabbione> siretart: remote console management
[06:44] <fabbione> that **** SET: Misaligned resource pointer: debbb722 Type 07 Len 0 is kind of scary
[06:44] <siretart> fabbione: no that I knew. If it has, heno or newz2000 should know about
[06:44] <newz2000> we don't have remote mangement.
[06:45] <siretart> I would have tried pci=noacpi
[06:45] <newz2000> Which is why I sugested the auto-reboot idea before we start testing too much.
[06:45] <fabbione> who has phisical access to the machines?
[06:45] <newz2000> server admins
[06:45] <newz2000> not us
[06:45] <siretart> I was reading grub manual for how to setup a failsafe grub with autoreboot in case the machine doesn't come up, wanted to try that tomorrow
[06:45] <fabbione> who are the server admins?
[06:45] <siretart> serverpronto.com
[06:45] <fabbione> ok
[06:46] <newz2000> siretart: the computer boots ok now.
[06:46] <newz2000> disabling acpi probably won't change that
[06:46] <newz2000> we need a "reboot on no network" I think.
[06:46] <fabbione> newz2000: if you don't have phisical access, that's the only way
[06:47] <fabbione> just make sure to do it properly
[06:47] <newz2000> fabbione: Seen anything out there pre-made?
[06:47] <fabbione> nope
[06:47] <fabbione> anyway i would still try the acpi=off
[06:48] <fabbione> drivers/acpi/resources/rslist.c:                              "Misaligned resource pointer %p", resource));
[06:49] <newz2000> what kind of diagnostic info would be useful from a running but non-network accessible kernel?
[06:49] <newz2000> Something of the form of xyz > /tmp/reboot.log
[06:49] <siretart> the thing is that I need to leave RSN, but will be available tomorrow again
[06:50] <newz2000> siretart: let me make sure I have access to the server. I can do this.
[06:50] <fabbione> newz2000: i would check if arp is working to see where the driver breaks.. mii-tools to see if the chip is powered on properly and there is network cable detected
[06:50] <fabbione> once you have arp/mii-tols you can go up for an icmp test with ping
[06:51] <newz2000> siretart, what is the IP on that server?
[06:51] <fabbione> you don't want to save in /tmp
[06:51] <fabbione> it's cleared on each reboot
[06:51] <fabbione> use /root or something that's permanent
[06:51] <newz2000> oh. Yes, that's bad. 
[06:51] <newz2000> ok
[06:52] <newz2000> siretart: nm, I'm in.
[06:52] <newz2000> siretart: can you withstand a little downtime if I work on this for a bit?
[06:54] <siretart> newz2000: it would be nice if you could announce that on #ubuntu-motu
[06:54] <newz2000> ok.
[06:54] <siretart> newz2000: and shutdown vsftp, postgres and apache2
[06:55] <siretart> these services are needed for revu, if they are off, nothing bad can happen [tm] 
[06:55] <newz2000> won't that happen gracefully on reboot? (i.e. aren't your rc.? scripts good?
[06:55] <siretart> sure, they will be started
[06:55] <fabbione> and shutdown too
[06:55] <siretart> I'm rather afraid of broken imports while shutting down
[06:56] <siretart> but thats only an unlikely chance to happen
[06:56] <siretart> more likeley ppl on #ubuntu-motu will screem
[06:56] <newz2000> ok, so I should announce, and wait for people who might be working to finish before rebooting.
[06:57] <siretart> that would be nice. but otoh, we are >< close before release, and revu isn't likely to be used ATM
[06:57] <siretart> we have other things to do at this point
[06:58] <newz2000> ok, I'll announce.
[07:02] <siretart> ok, need to run now
[07:02] <newz2000> siretart: thanks
[07:02] <siretart> I'll read the backlog in this channel!
[07:02] <siretart> newz2000: thanks that I leave now? ;)
[07:03] <newz2000> siretart: thanks for giving us the opportunity to figure this out. :D
[07:03] <siretart> ;)
[07:04] <newz2000> fabbione et al: what do you think about this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GbXvjW41.html
[07:06] <newz2000> any suggestions for a better way to ensure it doesn't run continually?
[07:06] <newz2000> any other useful data that can be included there?
[07:13] <newz2000> good thing I tested. :D Missing space in the if statement.
[07:13] <neuralis> fabbione: around?
[07:36] <fabbione> neuralis: yes
[07:37] <newz2000> fabbione: can I confirm: The best way to boot with acpi=off is to add that to the end of the kernel line in grub?
[07:38] <fabbione> newz2000: yes
[07:38] <newz2000> thanks. Just giving people a chance to finish then will try it.
[07:52] <zul> BenC_: we are using -rc2 now are we?
[08:07] <newz2000> fabbione and others: acpi=off didn't seem to work. I've opened a reboot ticket as my reboot script also didn't work.
[08:07] <newz2000> This implies something else is going on, because I tested the reboot script and believe it works.
[08:08] <newz2000> The server company has a note on their support site explaining a patch may be needed to support the hardware.
[08:08] <newz2000> https://serverpronto.infolink.com/modernbill/user.php?op=menu&tile=faq&_j=questiondetails&_id2=13
[08:09] <BenC_> zul: I'm updating to latest git almost daily
[08:09] <zul> okie dokie
[08:10] <mjg59> newz2000: It's not possible to view that page without a login/password
[08:10] <newz2000> oh, sorry. I'll pastebin it.
[08:11] <newz2000> http://rafb.net/paste/results/LygzfM71.html
[08:16] <fabbione> hey BenC_ 
[08:16] <fabbione> BenC_: i just plugged a 500GB firewire drive to my PB :)
[08:16] <fabbione> BenC_: works like a charm
[08:18] <fabbione> BenC_: btw i did look at sparc-utils FTBFS.. it's code that you already touched (that infamous _syscall1 in sparc32.c)
[08:18] <fabbione> BenC_: it should be really easy for you to fix it.. and i really have no clue what's complaning about
[08:20] <BenC_> fabbione: Ok
[08:20] <fabbione> BenC_: thanks a lot dude...
[08:20] <fabbione> i am calling it a day and heading to bed
[08:20] <fabbione> 15 hours in the day .. i am trashed
[08:21] <BenC_> g'night
[08:21] <ivoks> 'night
[08:21] <zul> c ya fabbione 
[08:36] <shwag_> Not sure who I need to talk to about this. Edgy doesnt support my ethernet nor my wireless drivers on my dell laptop, but they both work fine on dapper.
[08:43] <shwag_> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/66454
[09:22] <carthik> Hi, for laptop suspend/hibernate etc bugs, should I assign or subscribe the kernel team? Thank you.
[09:27] <shawarma> carthik: I've been told you should never assign them to anything, but at most subscribe them.
[09:28] <carthik> shawarma, thank you.
[09:28] <shawarma> carthik: Nevertheless, launchpad usually have sane defaults for subscribing the right teams to stuff.
[09:29] <shawarma> carthik: ...so if you have guess the right package (in your case either the kernel or acpi-support), the right teams should be assigned automatically.
[09:29] <carthik> shawarma, True. Maybe I should set the package to acpi-support. Thank you.
[09:30] <shawarma> carthik: any time.
[09:30] <crochat> Where can I see the list of "specialy" added modules, like "r1000" or "ipw3945" in the Ubuntu kernels ?
[09:31] <shawarma> crochat: As in modules not available in the vanilla kernel?
[09:31] <crochat> shawarma: Exactly
[09:32] <tfheen> you can't easily, AFAIK
[09:32] <tfheen> oh, or read debian/README.Ubuntu-External-Drivers in the source.
[09:33] <crochat> I've corrected some issues with libata in the 2.6.18, and now, I need to have the same added modules as in the 2.6.15 from Dapper ;-)
[09:49] <zul> later
[09:51] <crochat> tfheen: Where did you get the file README.Ubuntu-External-Drivers ??
[09:52] <tfheen> crochat: from the source package
[09:52] <crochat> tfheen: I searched a lot in many packages... but I didn't found any detailed information like that...
[09:53] <crochat> tfheen: In the Ubuntu package "linux-source-2.6.15-27" ?
[09:54] <tfheen> in the source package named linux-source-2.6.17, not the binary package of the same name, no.
[09:55] <crochat> tfheen: Oh, I see... Since Edgy, the addon modules seems to be in separated packages
[10:16] <crochat> tfheen: Ok, I'll lose too much time trying to integrate the Ubuntu addon modules in the 2.6.18 tree
[10:17] <crochat> tfheen: So I have to apply a patch made for the 2.6.18 in the Ubuntu 2.6.17 tree... do you think it should be possible ?
[10:18] <crochat> tfheen: It's a correction against the sata timeout
[10:18] <crochat> tfheen: The messages like: "ata2 is slow to respond. Please be patient"
[10:18] <tfheen> crochat: should be easy enough, I'd imagine.
[10:19] <tfheen> just pull down the git tree and cherrypick the patch
[10:28] <crochat> tfheen: I found this patch to solve my timeout problems, but the patch was "only garbadge" (picked up from a mailing list), so I made another patch, that I pasted here: http://pastebin.ca/205444
[10:43] <newz2000> what problems might arise from running an edgy kernel on dapper?
[10:54] <tormod> newz2000, should be safe from what I have heard.
[11:09] <newz2000> tormod: thanks, will give it a try I think.
[11:38] <shawarma> crochat: You should file a bug in launchpad and attach your patch there. Additionally, it might be a good idea to post it on lkml.