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primo_it#salvador12:06
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primo_itaew turma12:06
next_levelwhen trying to install ubuntu i get stuck at i"starting enterprise volume management system"12:06
LjLprimo_it, sorry?12:06
primo_itto com uma dificuldade no ubuntu12:06
LjL!pt12:06
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.12:06
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primo_italguem ta me lendo ai?12:07
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Xenguycs12:07
LjLprimo_it: si, eu te leo. pero aqui falamos ingles12:07
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LjLprimo_it: in #ubuntu-pt you can speak portugues12:07
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PhiBerOpTIcnothing/ reinstalling ubuntu now12:08
LinuXubuntudoes anoboady can answer with one is the best boot loader for Xubuntu: LILO or GRUB?12:08
PhiBerOpTIcoh well at least my 260gb drive has now failed :)12:08
LjL!best12:08
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.12:08
pak-xso ive tried to do something with gdm restart, but all what I get is a terminal and what have I to do there, to get a resolution like 1280*800?12:08
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dantasticis there a rc script control program "like chkconfig" for Ubuntu?12:08
LjLLinuXubuntu: that said, i don't see why you can't use the default, supported and standard Grub12:08
particlemanLinu-I've always been partial to grub, because it plays nice with Windows and is easy to work with12:08
Motokohow do I reconfigure X?12:09
Xenguydantastic: rcconf  ?12:09
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LjLMotoko: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:09
particlemanbut I started Linux on redhat/Fedora, so it could be more familiarity than better design12:09
Xenguydantastic: there are others IIRC12:09
dantasticThanks Xengu!12:09
Motokothanks12:09
Xenguydantastic: np12:09
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particlemanok...now for my question12:09
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particlemansomewhere along the road of autoupdating Dapper (I've installed no other software other than updates)12:10
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particlemanOpenOffice.org broke12:10
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particlemanoriginally installed via apt-get/synaptic12:10
LjLparticleman: broke like what?12:10
Xenguyparticleman: me too - I had to uninstall/reinstall or something like that12:10
particlemancurrently if I try and load any of the oo.o apps, the title screen appears, but no status bar12:10
particlemanit chunks along for a bit12:10
particlemanthen terminates without any error messages12:10
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LjLparticleman: alright, try uninstalling and reinstalling as xenguy said for starters...12:11
pak-xwhat can i do to get a resolution like 1280*800? 640*480 realy... you know ;-)12:11
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particlemanproblem is I don't even know entirely where to look for something broken (I thought it might be a lock file or something that didn't get deleted)12:11
particlemanok12:11
particlemanI'll try that again12:11
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Xenguyparticleman: oh, that's different from my problem, sorry12:11
tritiumparticleman: also, try running one of the apps from the command line, and look for error messages12:11
particlemanshould I reinstall from apt-get, or from a dl from oo.o12:11
particleman?12:11
LinuXubuntuLjL, I'm newbe in Linux Xubuntu. I'm learning everything now and I didn't know that GRUB is the standart for Xubuntu. I was seeking info about boot loadrs for Linux and almos all info I got was about LILO. But I'll look for GRUB, nos. Thanks!12:11
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particlemanalright12:12
particlemanthanks for the help btw12:12
PhiBerOpTIcwell if anybody want to rember bbs dayz you can telnet to hackerzdomain.ath.cx got a bbs there TELNET & EXCALIBUR12:12
LjLparticleman: *always* use APT unless you absolutely can't.12:12
whysowhats the difference between the normal and alternative CDS12:12
jbroomeor aptitiude12:12
particlemanalright12:12
LjLparticleman: however, to actually uninstall openoffice, you need to uninstall a few packages12:12
dantastic"sudo which rcconf" doesn't find anything for me. Is it aptgetable?12:12
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LinuXubuntuLjL. thanks! See ya!12:12
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LjLparticleman: i'd type "dpkg --get-selections | grep openoffice", uninstall all of them, and then "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org"12:13
particlemanhmm...ok, running it from the command line results in a crapload of API errors12:13
tritiumwhyso: the normal one is a live CD and installer.  The alternative is not a live CD, and has a text-based installer.12:13
JaakIs there anyone that knows why Flash gets X to crash?12:13
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whysothanks12:13
LjLparticleman: perhaps also purge when you uninstall. "sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>"12:13
particlemanalright12:13
wastrelJaak:  read the flash troubleshooting section of the restrictedformats wiki page12:13
wastrel!restricted12:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:13
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JaakWastrel, i mean Flash editor.12:14
particlemanwhat's the command line for apt-get to uninstall? :)12:14
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whysoim trying to use the live CD, but it freezes when i try to check the disk, or start/install, ive tried many burn programs and disks... any ideas what coudl be wrong12:14
jribparticleman: apt-get remove12:14
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jribubotu: tell particleman about apt12:14
particlemanthank you12:14
ks1particleman: apt-get --help12:14
LjLparticleman: and rightly so, since i just todl you :P12:14
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LjLparticleman: "sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>" (without the purge, normally, but use it in this case)12:15
ubuntuhow do i connect with the terminal server client in ubuntu to a windows computer12:15
johnficcadose anyone know a good way to convert mp3 to ogg in ubuntu dapper12:15
johnficca?12:15
LjL!mp32ogg12:15
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ubotump32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-6 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB12:15
jribjohnficca: mp32ogg12:15
jribhmm too slow12:15
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johnficcahey thanks12:15
whyso im trying to use the live CD, but it freezes when i try to check the disk, or start/install, ive tried many burn programs and disks... any ideas what coudl be wrong12:15
particlemanalright, purging oo.o now12:15
ubuntuhow do i connect with the terminal server client in ubuntu to a windows computer12:16
JaakAnyone here that get flash en fireworks to work without X crashing?12:16
LjLjohnficca: do note that converting mp3 to ogg necessarily results in a quality loss.12:16
Peggerwhyso, you try running the integrity check12:16
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Morrowynwhats the difference between aiglx and xgl ?12:16
whysoyes, and it freezes also12:16
tritiumjohnficca: indeed.  lossless-to-lossless conversion is not a good idea12:16
LjL!xgl12:16
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:16
Peggerwhyso, maby something is wrong with your computer12:16
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whysojust says "loading" indefinetly12:17
tritiumjohnficca: lossy-to-lossy, rather ;)12:17
whysoi am on raid 0, could that be the prob?12:17
johnficcayeah I know12:17
Peggerwhyso, try running the integrity check in a diffrent computer12:17
whysook, thanks12:17
johnficcabut I don't know what else to do12:17
Morrowynuhm that just says what xgl is, but what is the difference between xgl and aiglx12:17
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LjLjohnficca: well, what is the problem?12:17
leakd n812:17
tritiumjohnficca: what's preventing you from using the mp3s the way they are?12:18
Morrowynare they two totally different things or one and the same....12:18
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LjLMorrowyn: no, it also says that for xgl related stuff you should join #ubuntu-xgl12:18
johnficcaI don't what to use mp3's on ubuntu12:18
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tritiumjohnficca: s/what/want?  Or, what do you mean?12:18
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johnficcaits not legal to play them12:18
johnficcaon linux12:18
emmanuel_how can i connect to a Windows PC12:18
LjLjohnficca: depends. what country are you located in?12:18
johnficcausa12:19
tritiumjohnficca: I guess that depends on where you live12:19
emmanuel_?12:19
whysothe feds are so gonna get you john :)12:19
LjLjohnficca: well, in order to convert mp3 to ogg, you're breaking the same patents that prevent you from legally playing them, though.12:19
mattikHello. I tried boot with dapper live/install cd. I cannot boot in graphical mode with normal mode or safe mode.12:19
johnficcayeah I know... but I just don't want to support mp312:20
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johnficcaI hate the DRM12:20
LjLjohnficca: could you conceivably convert your MP3s to a lossless format? they'd take up quite a bit of space, but you'd not lose quality12:20
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LjLjohnficca: i bet there's no DRM in the MP3 you have.12:21
gnomefreakogg ;)12:21
LjLand i'm not sure DRM and MP3 are even related12:21
KyralMP3 can't have DRM12:21
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gnomefreakLjL: yes and no. DRM doesnt depend on mp312:21
KyralThe format is incapable of it12:21
jeff_anyone here using a broadcom bcw43xx wireless on hp/compaq 64-bit laptop, I can't get mine to work12:21
wildchildERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. Help12:21
particlemanoh gods12:21
particlemanjeff12:21
Kyral(Why do you think they made all these new formats? :P)12:21
particlemandon't even bother12:21
particlemanget a new card12:21
gnomefreakKyral: iirc some dvds use mp3 for the sound files12:21
johnficcato ask another question, anyone out there running an ibm t40 what wireless problems...cuz I am12:22
dantasticwhere might i find the rcconf program?   sudo which rcconf doesnt find it.12:22
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particlemanyou will be doomed to endless hours of frustration with ndiswrapper, bc43xx12:22
particlemanand eventually you'll just want to shoot yourself12:22
mattikMy Computer is Fujitsu Siemens SCENIC T And ATI 9250 PCI. I don't get X. So I cannot install Dapper in my Computer12:22
tritium!rcconf12:22
bbrazildantastic: this isn't redhat. update-rc.d12:22
uboturcconf: Debian Runlevel configuration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.17 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 112 kB12:22
particlemanI found this out twice12:22
jeff_its a brand new laptop! and the card works fine with knoppix, fedora, etc12:22
jeff_I just prefer ubuntu12:22
particlemanyou're kidding12:22
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particlemanyou actually got a Broadcom card to work under Linux?12:23
particlemanand under Fedora?12:23
particlemanseminoob that I may be12:23
jeff_automatically worked/works under both12:23
Cody`dhclient keeps overwriting my resolv.conf with nameserver 172.16.157.2 so no domains resolve. How can I figure out why it started doing this and how can I fix it?12:23
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slop2what do i do when i see this?!?  :::  configure: error: Missing X11 includes or libraries. Use --x-includes=DIR --x-libraries=DIR12:23
particlemanI am impressed12:23
LjLslop2: install xorg-dev i guess12:23
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next_leveleveryone agrees,  mac os x is the best right?12:23
dantasticthx bbrazil!12:24
particleman...12:24
jeff_ubuntu 6.0.0 has precompiled support but it's not working12:24
particlemanit's purdy, I will give it that12:24
LjLnext_level: this is an Ubuntu support channel. please take offtopic questions or discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic12:24
particlemanand it certainly has its niceties12:24
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particlemanand...poop12:24
particlemanok12:24
Cody`dhclient keeps overwriting my resolv.conf with nameserver 172.16.157.2 so no domains resolve. How can I figure out why it started doing this and how can I fix it?12:24
particlemanuninstall/reinstall results in the same problem12:25
xaviery does ubuntu run fsck everrry time it reboots for all my fat32 drives .. and doesnt fix any of them? whts the point? .......... anyway .. how do i run fsck manually and correct the errors? it says they are mounted12:25
particlemannext suggestion?12:25
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johnficcanext_level, I think mac used to be good, but not the new intel ones i know cuz I had one12:25
LjLxavier: what *is* the problem it tries to fix?12:25
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next_levelhmm12:25
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LjLxavier: non-matching backup of something, by any chance?12:25
UKMatthas anyone put on Firefox RC2?12:25
saelynhhi evryone :)12:25
next_levelmac is freebsd12:25
next_levelubuntu is debian12:25
next_levelwhat do we do?12:25
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LjLnext_level, johnficca, please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic12:25
eXistenZHello, I installed java, but still ff doesn't use it =/12:25
johnficcasorry12:25
particlemanoh...12:25
particlemanhmm12:26
tritiumeXistenZ: you used the ubuntu packages?12:26
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eXistenZtritium, yup12:26
xavieryes12:26
particlemana typical error from starting oo.o12:26
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xavierover and over and over again12:26
particleman[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for SelectTextureSGIS12:26
ubutomeXistenZ, have you done sudo update-alternatives --java ?12:26
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xavierLjL: yes12:26
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tritiumeXistenZ: sun-java5-plugin?12:27
eXistenZtritium, ja12:27
johnficcamy problem I have is my laptop ibm t40, the cisco wireless card just dosen't work sometimes12:27
johnficcaanyone have the same problem12:27
johnficca?12:27
xavierLjL: u know what to do?12:27
LjLxavier: you need to run fsck manually, but i don't remember the parameters. hold on12:27
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xavierok12:28
xavier!fsck12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
xavier!unmount12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
DaemonikHey the fglrx driver is broken with Dapper.12:28
anon32there's a section on DialUpModemHowto that's incorrect for the current release of Ubuntu, should I replace it with instructions for 6.06 and remove the original or should I keep both?12:28
jribeXistenZ: did you close all instances of firefox and open it again?12:28
DaemonikNo one has addressed this issue, I see nothing about it in the wiki.12:28
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eXistenZjrib, yup12:28
tritiumxavier: don't play with ubotu, please.  Try that stuff in a query.12:29
Comrade_Scan someone tell me the command for installing the gnome desktop on an ubuntu server install?12:29
jribeXistenZ: what does 'which firefox' say?12:29
tritiumDaemonik: did you search malone for a bug report?12:29
particlemanah ok12:29
eXistenZ/usr/bin/firefox12:29
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Daemonikmalone?12:29
particlemanfound the solution, I think12:29
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ubutomeXistenZ, have you done sudo update-alternatives --config java ? sorry, forgot the config ;D12:29
tritium!malone12:29
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/12:29
anon32anyone?12:30
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particlemanlooks like the latest revisions of the ATI driver buggered things12:30
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LjLxavier: sudo dosfsck -ar /dev/whatever      where whatever is the concerned partition12:30
particlemanso a revert to the old version should fix things12:30
eXistenZjrib, *     3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java12:30
jribeXistenZ: how about:   ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*java*12:30
whysook i tested my CD on another computer and its fine, but when i try to check it on mine, or use it, it freezes, any ideas what could be wrong?12:30
slop2LjL, thanks, that kinda fixed it...now i'm getting this : configure: error: Missing gdk_imlib library12:31
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xavierty .. will it unmount itself?12:31
tritiumslop2: you need to install the development library packages that you need12:31
slop2LjL, and i've already installed python-gdk-imlib-1.212:31
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eXistenZjrib, ls: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*java*: No such file or directory12:31
slop2tritium, which ones are they?  i installed python-gdk-imlib-1.212:31
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LjLslop2: install libgdk-imlib-dev12:31
LjLslop2: you need the "-dev" packages when you compile, not the binary packages12:32
slop2LjL, ah ok12:32
LjL!compile > slop212:32
jribeXistenZ: apt-cache policy sun-java5-plugin   , does it say Installed?12:32
LjLxavier: no, unmount it first12:32
Comrade_Scan someone tell me the command for installing the gnome desktop on an ubuntu server install?12:32
xavierhow?12:32
eXistenZjrib, Installed: (none)12:32
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next_levelxavier, #ubuntu-fr12:32
jribComrade_S: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop12:32
LjLxavier: sudo umount /wherever/it/is/mounted12:32
jribeXistenZ: install it12:32
xavierok12:32
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particlemanyeehah!12:33
particlemansuccess!12:33
whysoi tested the live CD on another computer but it freezes when i start it on mine, any ideas on what could be wrong?12:33
Comrade_Sthanks jrib12:33
jribComrade_S: np12:33
particlemanwell thanks for the attempted help folks12:33
particlemanand I learned something in the process12:34
whyso(its not my DVD drive, other liveCDS have worked for me)12:34
slop2LjL, thanks :))12:34
particlemanif anyone else asks, it's a problem with the ATI drivers12:34
particlemanhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18503312:34
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particlemanthat thread has got the fix12:34
particlemanI'm off12:34
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xavierwhts the saqfest option?12:34
xavier1) Copy original to backup12:34
xavier2) Copy backup to original12:34
xavier?12:34
kralcymerejcan anyone help me get a .asx streaming audio file to stream? Im running streamtuner and it just dosn't seem to be cutting it?12:34
particlemanhave fun folks12:34
xaviersafest12:34
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LjLxavier: 112:34
LjLxavier: choose 112:35
Jahmanhi12:35
xavierok12:35
jribkralcymerej: try mplayer with w32codecs12:35
whyso i tested the live CD on another computer but it freezes when i start it on mine, any ideas on what could be wrong?12:35
whyso<Comrade_S> thanks jrib12:35
whyso<jrib> Comrade_S: np12:35
whyso<particleman> well thanks for the attempted help folks12:35
whyso<particleman> and I learned something in the process12:35
whyso<whyso> (its not my DVD drive, other liveCDS have worked for me)12:35
LjL!paste12:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:35
tritiumwhyso: that wasn't necessary12:35
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kralcymerejalso, as a complete newbie to linux what is the "best" media player to use (I'm using xmss and it seems ok but...)?12:35
whysosorry, didnt mean to paste it all12:35
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whysowas trying to paste it into the text box then edit it12:36
LjLkralcymerej: what's wrong with the included one?12:36
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tritiumwhyso: okay, no worries12:36
MotokoHow do I set the PW on the default Keyring?12:36
jribkralcymerej: there is no "best", but mplayer, vlc, and xine are all pretty good imo as media players.  A good music player to try is amarok12:36
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virtual-stargazeAnyone else use a wireless card with the Ralink rt2500 chipset?12:37
tritium!best12:37
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.12:37
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eXistenZjrib, Works now. Thank you guys :)12:37
kralcymerejso mplayer will allow me to "stream" as well as listen to the mp3 on my system?12:37
holycowAmaranth, wb12:37
LjLkralcymerej: you have Rhythmbox, for audio, and Totem, for audio/video, included. if they're there, it's probably because they're thought to be the easiest for newcomers12:37
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jribkralcymerej: yes, but you may prefer something else to manage a library of music12:37
codeFiendhey all.12:37
codeFiendI am trying to print a pdf file from shell, but for some reason it's failing.12:37
kralcymerejthanks for the help guys!12:37
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codeFiendIf I open the same pdf file in Evince and print from there, it prints fine12:38
codeFiendbut when I do lp -d PrinterName file.pdf, it just hangs there12:38
MarcNcodeFiend: lpr -Psomeprinter foo.pdf    should work12:38
whysoi tested the liveCD on another computer, worked there but freezes right after the intial boot screen, any ideas why? (other live CDS have worked)12:38
LjL!install > whyso12:39
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eXistenZjrib, Do you know how can I remap some keys?12:40
Motokoso I'm trying to upgrade from 5.10 to the latest Ubuntu and I do "gksu "update-manager -c -d""12:40
Amaranthholycow: hey12:40
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Motokoand it asks for the password to the default keyring12:40
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MotokoI put in my password and it tells me wrong password12:40
jribeXistenZ: no, I don't know the best way to do that12:40
Motokoany suggestions?12:40
Blinkeri'm having trouble burning DVDs lately. this is a new development since i was able to burn just fine before =\12:40
jribeXistenZ: depending on what you want to do, take a look at system > preferences > keyboard (shortcuts)12:40
anon32!allcaps12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about allcaps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:40
anon32the hell, there's no factoid on all caps?12:41
eXistenZjrib, I want to remap my Caps Lock key to ESC12:41
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tritiumanon32: try that nonsense in a query with ubotu12:41
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anon32tritium, wha?12:42
jribeXistenZ: yeah, never tried to do that.  Maybe someone else can help though12:42
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anon32question: what's my best option for getting flash working on Ubuntu?12:43
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hayumHey guys what is the correct permissions to place on /home to make it non viewable?12:43
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jribubotu: tell anon32 about flash12:43
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jribhayum: 70012:43
anon32hayum, 77012:43
J-_how can i ssh into my server so i have write permissions? or should i be using ftp?12:43
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anon32jrib, that's nice and all, but is there something that the bot doesn't know? I've seen that page hundreds of times12:44
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hayumthats not right jrib, anon32, if i cd / then type cd it says permission denied12:44
jribanon32: the restricted wiki page explains flash installation.  You need flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse12:44
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anon32jrib, again... I'm asking if there's alternatives... I know that the Adobe one is buggy12:45
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J-_=\12:45
jribanon32: not really, you can try gnash12:46
LjL!libflash-swfplayer12:46
ubotulibflash-swfplayer: GPL Flash (SWF) Library - stand-alone player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB12:46
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wildchilddoes anyone know for this one: checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details.  (I was trying to install gnash)12:46
virtual-stargazeNevermind, my card works out of the box on Ubuntu!12:46
tritiumwildchild: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:46
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Shishhave you looked in config.log for more details?12:46
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LjLanon32, clearly, what we believe to be the "best option" is the one given by the bot. it might not be the best for you, but simply asking about the "best option" doesn't give us many clues12:47
J-_i can ssh into my server, i just can't write anything to it because of the permissions? can someone help me...?12:47
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spinbosonanyone know if there's any way to get macos-like hot corners in ubuntu?12:47
LjL!xgl > sinboson12:47
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LjL!xgl > spinboson12:47
gemidjyI get  acpi-support depends on acpid (>= 1.0.4-1ubuntu4); when upgrading to edgy12:47
tritiumspinboson: brightside12:47
wastrelubunto = teh aw3s0m312:47
spinbosonbrightside?12:47
anon32jrib, mm... the gnash installation is convoluted and for some reason, there's no deb for it..12:47
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tritiumgemidjy: edgy questions in #ubuntu+112:47
jribhayum: I thought you meant chmod'ing /home/user_name12:47
gnu666moin moin zusammen #12:47
tritiumspinboson: yes, it's a package you can install for what you want12:47
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spinbosonokay12:48
spinbosonthanks!12:48
jribanon32: right12:48
jribanon32: what's wrong with adobe's flash player for you?12:48
anon32yep.. I'm still looking for all the libs I need to compile it :-(((12:48
wildchildtritium what does the build-essential do12:48
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tritium!b-e12:48
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:48
anon32jrib, audio-video sync error....12:48
tritiumsee that above, wildchild12:49
spinbosontritium: easy to do, or lots of dependencies?12:49
wildchildtritium: k12:49
brueniganon32, http://www.welcomehome.org/gnash/releases/gnash_0.7-1_i386.deb12:49
J-_i can ssh into my server, i just can't write anything to it because of the permissions? how can i get the permissions to write to it through ssh?12:49
anon32bruenig, are the dependencies available on Ubuntu?12:49
tritiumspinboson: easy, a few dependencies, but you likely already have them installed12:49
spinbosonexcellent12:49
spinbosonthanks again12:49
brueniganon32, I haven't installed it. I just found that deb12:49
chrisX`what is the difference between 2.4 and 2.6 kernels?12:49
ompaulhere are another batch of ban removals :-/ one moment12:49
codeFiendmarcn: thanks... trying12:49
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bruenigif they aren't it won't install, might as well give it a try12:50
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AnveoHow do you minimize the rdesktop program when it is in fullscreen?12:50
ompaulchrisX`, the 2.6 is lighter faster better newer and stuff12:50
tritium2.6 is less filling _and_ tastes great12:50
chrisX`:) but there must be a reason, why still 2.4 kernels are beeing released ^^12:50
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ompaulchrisX`, dpes more12:50
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bruenigChrisBradley, stability and old hardware12:51
chrisX`hm i see12:51
spinbosontritium: I don't think it does the 'workspace view' does it?12:51
ompaulchrisX`, some people hang on to old kernels, a feeling of stability, and less changes12:51
bruenigchrisX`, that last statement was for you trusty tab completion failed me12:51
tritiumspinboson: I don't know, sorry12:52
chrisX`hehe ok12:52
ompaulchrisX`, think the word "production server" where there is money and lots of it involved12:52
spinbosondoes anyone know of anything that does?12:52
chrisX`ah ok...12:52
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chrisX`somebody here with working hostap drivers? (wlan)12:52
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ompaul!wireless > chrisX`12:53
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ompaulchrisX`, have a lok at that message from the bot12:53
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anon32nope, failed12:53
ClayGanyone know where to get good icon pictures for /usr/share/pixmaps?  I want a bunch of different looking folders12:54
wastrelClayG:  gnome-look.org maybe12:54
wastrelalso art.gnome.org12:54
next_levelhow do you render ubuntu sexy?12:55
adammkk i had two partitions on my comp, one had windows and one had ubuntu, i deleted ubuntu's partition and resized windows to fill it in, but now windows doesn't recognize the new space partitioned to it. how do i fix this plz?12:55
ClayGi checked that out but they look like they only have icon packages, like themes for the whole system12:55
chrisX`ompaul: my problem is i wanted some with injection.. but i cant compile them... then i installed edgy eft to compile them, wont work also.. grr :)12:55
anon32hmm.... it needs kdelibs... eww...12:55
chrisX`ompaul: perhaps i should search a live-cd security distro, for my  wardriving stuff, and use my nice ubuntu for the other things12:55
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ompaulnext_level, by using it12:56
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bruenigadammk, that is a windows question12:56
bruenigadammk, perhaps ##windows12:57
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adammkk thnks didn't know there was a windows channel12:57
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chrisX`hey dont delete your ubuntu partition! :D12:58
wastreltoo late12:59
ClayGnah12:59
bruenig:|12:59
chrisX`stone him12:59
chrisX`xD12:59
ClayGis there any otyher place to get pixmaps?12:59
boinksuch is life12:59
wastrelClayG:  how about images.google.com12:59
bruenigClayG, google12:59
ClayGin thunderbird is there a way to make the default response a "top post" instead of a "bottom post"12:59
ClayGbruenig, wastrel : you forgot "man"12:59
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tonyyarussoClayG: I believe that's in the composition section of preferences.01:00
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bruenigClayG, that is not a real "support" question01:00
jeffreybI installed edgy beta... on first run on update it did a upgrade-dist to 6.10... I this still beta or am I running actual 6.10?01:00
ClayGtonyyarusso, awasome thank you01:00
boinkedgy is still beta01:00
ClayGbruenig, ouch, did you notify an op?01:00
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boinkedgy should be released around 25 october01:00
chrisX`i have a i686 (pentium) pc, will compiling my own kernel give me (much?) more speed?01:00
tritiumjeffreyb: you're runnning edgy in it's latest state, which is not beta, but not released01:01
tonyyarussojeffreyb: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions01:01
boinknot really01:01
bruenigClayG, no but that is an explanation of why the bad advice, you seemed to be taking a shot at us with the man comment, so I was merely explaining why we answered the way we did01:01
OHN0EShey everyone - I recently started experiencing trouble burning CDs/DVDs. when i try to burn, the mouse intermittently locks up, along with the burning process and wont unmound the device without a hard reboot01:01
OHN0ESunmount*01:01
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jeffreybthanks guys01:01
ClayGbruenig, heheh i was.  It just seems that when someone uses the "google" advice normally they say man also it was sort of an inside joke i guess01:01
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ClayGbruenig, just kidding but that is OT so lets cut it out01:02
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OHN0ESany chance someone knows how to fix that?01:02
bruenigOHN0ES, that happens to me also, I assumed it was a memory issue01:03
bruenigsince I don't have very much01:03
OHN0ESnot a mem issue in my case. i have 1G ram and it does it on a fresh boot01:03
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OHN0ESno one, eh?01:04
gnomefreakOHN0ES: it can still be a mem issue. ps aux will tell you if something is using a high amount of ram (including the player you are using)01:04
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gnomefreakOHN0ES: do you have a swap partition?01:05
OHN0ESyep, 2G01:05
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gnomefreakOHN0ES: what app are you using?01:06
GeOhid3, i'm having trouble getting a working coppy of ubuntu 6.06 for amd 64 installed01:06
OHN0ESnautilus and gnome bake01:06
OHN0ESsame reaction with both01:06
gnomefreakboth cause same issue?01:06
tritiumGeO: are you using the 6.06.1 installer?  The intial release had some issues.01:06
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gnomefreakOHN0ES: have you tried running cdrecord on its own?01:06
tritiuminitial, even01:06
OHN0ESno, not familiar withthat route01:07
GeOi'm using whatever version is downloadable from the servers now01:07
GeOis there a text file on the cd that tells what version it is?01:07
GeOif so i'll check that now01:07
OHN0ESgnomefreak: would file size have anything to do with it? i am trying to burn a 4.2G archive01:08
GeOyacc, i've got 6.06.101:08
gnomefreakOHN0ES: do you have any kde apps installed?01:08
gnomefreakOHN0ES: yes01:08
OHN0ESgoodness, no01:08
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gnomefreakOHN0ES: k3b works when others dont ;)01:09
OHN0ESi'll give it a chance.01:09
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bruenigk3b is so smug01:09
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gnomefreakOHN0ES: also man cdrecord. since both use cdrecord it might be an issue with that01:09
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bruenigwith its superior abilities, so arrogant01:09
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gnomefreakit helped me out a few times so i have it as backup01:10
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next_levelhttp://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=16577301:11
dtoljanybody know if theres a program for generating xorg.conf in Ubuntu?01:11
GhostFreemanWhat's an ideal xmodmap setting for a us-101 keyboard01:11
bruenig!xconfig01:11
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:11
GeOon booting on the cd, i choose install ubuntu, then i go to a scren with the ubuntu logo written on it, and a progress bar, then it lists what it's loading or installing, gets to the end of the progress bar then go's to a dark screen with a blinking dash in top left corner and then stops, nothing hapns from ther no matter how long i wait01:11
mighty_falconim in xchat how come i dont see the user list :S?01:11
mighty_falconnvm silly me01:11
ks1mighty_falcon: drag it out so you can01:11
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mighty_falconyep :) didnt notice01:12
mighty_falcontnx01:12
mortalguyIs there a difference between "symbolic links" and the links created using `link`? How do I link a folder?01:12
GeOanybody have this install prob and can help?01:12
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dtoljubotu: thanks01:12
ubotuThanks for the help!01:12
brueniglol01:12
bruenig!bot01:12
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage01:12
pixelmonkeyI have an X11 window that has misbehaved and made itself so tiny that I can't resize it.  Is there any way for me to force a certain window size for this X11 window while the app is running?01:13
bruenigI didn't know it had a thanks factoid, that is hilarious01:13
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SpaceFrogHow can I get XChat to use my default browser (Firefox) when opening links, instead of old-school mozilla?01:13
bruenigespecially considering it will generally only be triggered when people don't know it is a bot and they will be confused as to why he is thanking them01:13
gnomefreakSpaceFrog: set it in update-alternatives01:14
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SpaceFrogoh, i'll see if i can work that out. thanks01:14
FlannelSpaceFrog: update-alternatives x-www-browser01:15
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gnomefreakSpaceFrog: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser01:15
ClayGanyone know of a tool that will rotate or randomly load splash screens and/or GDM themes?01:15
ClayGso each time I login i see a different theme? kinda spice things up:01:15
SpaceFrogthanks, that got it :)01:15
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wjoe2001my computers tries to load the desktop and then fails, dropping my back to the gdm login screen01:16
holycowAmaranth, *ping*01:16
wjoe2001in the log files, it says client 2 rejected from local host01:16
gnomefreakwjoe2001: what version of ubuntu?01:17
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wjoe20016.06.l101:17
MrKeunerhi, for my PC Dapper A I do everything on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP and when I send something from another PC, Dapper B. It prints some settings on the printer instead of whatever I send. settings include but are not limited to -12345X@PJL SET PAPERTYPE = NORMAL ON, @PJL SET DENSITY = 3, etc.01:17
wjoe2001dapper drake01:17
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no0ticipkungfu script in edgy is corrupted, anyone can help me?01:17
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Flannelno0tic: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support01:18
gnomefreakwjoe2001: when you are in tty try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop than same command but start instead of stop01:18
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caminomasterhello01:19
caminomasterhow can I turn my screen?01:19
bruenig!hi01:19
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:19
gnomefreakturn you screen?01:19
wjoe2001so I would type, "sudo /etc/inti.d/gdm start" ?01:19
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gnomefreakwjoe2001: stop first but yes01:19
mighty_falcondoes anyone know of a reposatory or .deb file for the new amarok? apt-get only seems to have an outdated one01:19
ciscosurfercaminomaster: turn your screen off?01:20
mikm[laptop] ciscosurfer I think he means rotate01:20
caminomasteryes, turn screen 90 left or right or inverted01:20
wjoe2001o ok, hopefully that works, i had a great setup and didnt want to have to reinstall01:28
gnomefreakcaminomaster: put your hands on the screen and push one of the sides the way you want it01:28
bruenigmighty_falcon, what version number are you looking for?01:28
caminomasterJa Ja01:28
ciscosurfermikm[laptop] : ah01:28
mighty_falconbruenin: im going for 1.4.301:28
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gnomefreakcaminomaster: thats what rotating you screen means you gonna have to give more details01:28
keltorsoriany especially knowledgeable people on tonight that might be able to help me hunt a bug in edgy?01:28
LjL!edgy01:28
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule01:28
bruenighttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php01:28
gnomefreakkeltorsori: yes #ubuntu+!01:28
gnomefreakoops01:28
gnomefreak#ubuntu+101:28
mighty_falcon!schedule01:28
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule01:28
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caminomastergnomefreak, I mean to rotate screen 90 to anyside01:28
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Con-fuze-edCan anyone help me out... trying to install ubuntu 6.10 beta and it doesn't appear to support LVM... can anyone confirm?01:28
mighty_falconbruenig, i trid using that01:28
caminomasterto set it vertical...01:28
mighty_falconbut i got an error01:28
FlannelCon-fuze-ed: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support01:28
bruenigmighty_falcon, what error?01:28
mighty_falconi was not able to run apt-get update01:28
mighty_falconlet me try running it again01:28
Con-fuze-edFlannel: thanks01:28
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bruenigmighty_falcon, you must not have added the repo right01:28
gnomefreakdid you add the word deb to it?01:28
mighty_falconyes i did01:28
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: what is the error?01:28
caminomasterIs not hard 2 understand: rotate screen left or right01:28
mighty_falconok it worked now, do i just go with sudo apt-get uprade amarok after?01:28
gnomefreakcaminomaster: like on a cube? or you just want to move the screen left or right01:28
caminomasterlike lcd's let do, but with a normal screen01:28
bruenigmighty_falcon, sudo apt-get install amarok01:28
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: just upgrade01:28
bruenigoh, you already have it?01:28
gnomefreakor install it if not already installed01:28
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caminomasternot like cube, inclinate01:28
Flannelgnomefreak: he wants to rotate I think. 90 degrees01:28
caminomasteryes, Flannel01:28
mighty_falconi got this when it ried to upgrade01:28
spcmnspf I'm trying to install bugzilla on Ubuntu linux distro, and am having some trouble. I was wondering if I could get a few pointers in the right direction01:28
mighty_falconThe following packages have been kept back:01:28
mighty_falcon  amarok amarok-xine gstreamer0.10-plugins-base01:28
mighty_falcon0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.01:28
MrKeunerfor PC Dapper A, I do everything on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP and when I send something from another PC, Dapper B. It prints some setting like strings on the printer instead of whatever I sent. those printed strings include but are not limited to -12345X@PJL SET PAPERTYPE = NORMAL ON, @PJL SET DENSITY = 3, etc. WHat might be the problem?01:28
gnomefreakFlannel: yes he said that but i dont know of a way to do that witha  crt screen01:28
LjL!paste > mighty_falcon01:28
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: install it01:28
mighty_falconit is already installed i am just trying to update to 1.4.301:28
caminomastercrt... exactly01:28
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Flannelcaminomaster: I believe nvidia cards can do it... Let me do some googling01:28
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-xine gstreamer....\01:28
caminomasterI've seen that in win$01:28
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: install it01:28
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: take my word for it i know that error all too much01:28
npodgesi just installed edgy and updated everything to the latest. why can i not install mplayer?01:28
mighty_falconlol ok01:28
caminomasterbut I have no N-vidia: I have ati...?01:28
mighty_falconThe following packages have unmet dependencies:01:28
mighty_falcon  amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable01:28
mighty_falconE: Broken packages01:28
gnomefreaknpodges: #ubuntu+1 for edgy01:28
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mighty_falconand when i try to install that dependency01:28
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mighty_falconit sais it is already installed01:28
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: sudo apt-get -f install01:28
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bruenig!info libvisual-0.4-001:28
ubotuPackage libvisual-0.4-0 does not exist in any distro I know01:28
LjLmighty_falcon, have you received the message from Ubotu? please try to keep pastes on one line, or else use the pastebin01:28
jkku3!libgtk01:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libgtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:28
jkku3!lib01:28
brueniglibvisual is in my repos01:28
LjL!msg the bot01:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:28
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops01:28
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gnomefreakjkku3: stop fishing please01:28
mighty_falcongnomefreak, no luck with the apt-get -f01:28
david_how do I unmount an iso?01:28
gnomefreakbruenig: they are in all01:28
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: what did it say?>01:28
jkku3gnomefreak i'm not doing what you think i'm doing so quit it01:28
gnomefreakdavid_: umount01:28
gnomefreakjkku3: stop fishing with the bot01:29
mighty_falcongnomefreak, after running apt-get -f i receieved the same erorr when trying to install01:29
david_thanks01:29
gnomefreakjkku3: you were fishing01:29
jkku3no i'm not01:29
jkku3do you not recognize a typo when you see it?01:29
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bruenigjkku3, what were you trying to type?01:29
gnomefreakjkku3: !bleh than @bleh is fishing01:29
gnomefreak!*01:29
jkku3thought the thing had info on libgtk01:29
gnomefreakthats not a package01:29
jkku3i could have sworn it was01:29
gnomefreakjkku3: try the package name01:30
LjLok, "you were fishing" "no i'm not" is not related to Ubuntu support. please move this away to #ubuntu-offtopic, or just stop it.01:30
gnomefreakjkku3: its libgtk2.0-0 or something like that01:30
jkku3i'll just google it01:30
bruenigor apt-cache search it01:30
jkku3heh, you mean i'd have to type the ENTIRE name of the package?01:30
mighty_falcongnomefreak, any ideas?01:30
LjLjkku3: there is no package called "libgtk". try "apt-cache search libgtk" on your machine, or "find libgtk" on the bot01:30
gnomefreakjkku3: yes those numbers are not version numbers they are package numbers01:30
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Flannelcaminomaster: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/xrandr  is the package01:31
iCodAnyone know how to use a vcast phone (verizon) via usb in ubuntu? like managing songs?01:31
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: remove amarok and amarok-xine01:31
funkjaHow would I change my keyboard key mappings? My . key on my numpad doesn't work. It just causes a system beep.01:31
caminomaster... I've tried xrandr and don't works01:31
Lam_!schedule01:31
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule01:31
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david_heh, I mounted at one location multiple times01:31
david_now I am trying to unmount what I mounted01:32
killownyoutube not work more?01:32
david_and I am getting "device is busy"01:32
david_when I attempt to unmount01:32
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: after they are removed try again and when i get back i will ask someone somthing i have a thought on your issue01:32
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funkjadavid_: is it a hard drive? or external device01:32
slideHow do I upgrade my ubuntu system? Is everything required for it to become 6.06 contained in apt-get?01:32
LjLdavid_: do you have any Nautilus window open on that mount, or some program that might be accessing it, or even a shell prompt inside the mount?01:32
david_it is an ISO01:32
mighty_falcongnomefreak, ok great tnx01:32
LjL!upgrade > slide01:33
funkjasomething is using it01:33
slidety01:33
caminomasterI'll be back...01:33
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relaincan anyone help me with internal wireless?01:33
LjL!anyone01:34
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:34
LjL!wifi > relain01:34
iCodDoes anyone know how to use a usb mp3 phone in ubuntu?01:34
relaini have ndiswrapper installed and it: ndiswrapper -l seems to think my driver is working01:34
mighty_falcongnomefreak, let me know once your back01:34
nilatsOn my laptop, the CD ROM drive broke and I am attemping to install Ubuntu through other means -- the only option I have discovered is PXE booting which is impossible in my scenario -- does anyone have any other suggestions (I was hoping for a install from flash drive)01:34
wjoe2001now it says, cannot display this video mode01:35
andresmujicagnomefreak. i've got the amarok + libvisual-0.4.0 issue.. i've got to disable amarok-latest repo and i could update amarok to 1.4.3 from kde-latest repo01:36
LjLnilats: do you have another operating system (e.g. Windows) installed? if so, you could try installing through an emulator such as VMWare01:36
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relainhey nilats there's definitely documentation for installing from other media on the ubuntu site01:36
relain(sorry that's not very specific but it's there)01:36
nilatsCurrently on windows but I wish to run Ubuntu as my main OS, not emulated01:36
codeFiendugh. this is odd. I can print text files from shell fine, but as soon as I try to send a pdf or ps file to the printer with lp or lpr, the job starts, but the printer doesn't print it01:37
codeFiendit just sits in the queue forever.01:37
LjL!install > nilats01:37
nilatsThe other methods dont apply in my case -- I am trying to boot make a boot disk on a USB drive (other cases try to make a LiveCD on USB drive)01:37
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LjLnilats: yes, i was thinking about simply using VMware to get it installed, and then run it natively01:37
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nilatsWhat do you mean LjL01:38
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: what version of kdebase do you have?01:38
LjLnilats: i mean what i said. set VMWare to use a *real* rather than a virtual partition, and install.01:38
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nilatsWould that not mean repartitioning my drive, and having 2 OS's on it?01:38
mighty_falcongnomefreak, hmmm honestly the latest thats in the reposatoy i would say as i jsut installed it today01:38
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: apt-cache policy kdebase01:39
knoppix__are there any secrets to getting a Dell Docking station to work with a Dell laptop01:39
LjLnilats: well, yes it would. but wouldn't *any* means of installing involve that? (unless you plan to remove windows, that is)01:39
mighty_falcongnomefreak, Installed: 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu2701:39
gnomefreaklol01:39
gnomefreakthought so01:39
gnomefreakok hold on let me see if it was ever built for that (i doubt it)01:40
nilatsI do plan to remove01:40
mighty_falcongnomefreak, would it be better if i jsut go with the kubuntu-base package?01:40
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bruenig!info kde-core01:40
ubotukde-core: the K Desktop Environment core modules. In component main, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB01:40
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: no just hold on you may have to install kubuntu 3.5.301:40
mighty_falconok01:41
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gnomefreakone of the depends are kdebase >=3.5.3-101:41
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mlaciit seems to me that there's no clearlooks-cairo theme in dapper. i'd love to use it and i see it everywhere on the web. why it isn't included yet?01:41
relainso why doesn't my card support scanning? but in windows it surely scans01:41
nilatsHerm!01:42
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: ok lets do this the easy way :) brb let me get something01:42
nilatsI will attempt this VMWare method, since then inside ubuntu I can just format the old windows partition -- thanks.01:42
mighty_falcongnomefreak, lolz ok01:42
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Crippy-BoyLo all01:43
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: add this repo to your sources.list file deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main01:43
jak_hello everyone, any one know where i could find this usb-serial.h file?01:43
Bearcatdoes anyone know if Xchat has any kind of logging feature.  I can't seem to find it.01:44
mighty_falcongnomefreak: done01:44
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: when its added and saved run sudo apt-get update01:44
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:44
gnomefreakit should update all kde and amarok :)01:44
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caminomasterhello01:45
caminomasterI've seen that xrandr don't rotate in xorg...01:45
mighty_falcongnomefreak: perfect thats what i was thinking to do as well, i dont know why i went with kde-base to begin with01:45
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: kdebase is always installed with kubuntu01:46
Crippy-BoyWhere would i find the source to login01:46
Crippy-Boy>01:46
caminomasterbye01:46
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mikm[laptop] Bearcat it does01:46
mighty_falcongnomefreak: on top of that kubuntu-base is also installed?01:46
josh_what is the command for looking at my port ports?01:46
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: for me to know the version of kubuntu you are using kdebase gives it kubuntu-desktop version is like 2.101:46
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: yes01:46
josh_netstat -plunt?01:46
mikm[laptop] Bearcat Settings --> Preferences01:46
Bearcatty mikm01:46
BearcatI will check it01:46
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mikm[laptop] Bearcat It's under the Chatting header01:47
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: do you get gpg errors when you sudo apt-get update?01:47
mighty_falcongnomefreak: nop iit went just fine, its now upgrading01:47
gnomefreakk01:47
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gnomefreakyou should be good to go :)01:47
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Crippy-BoyDoes anyone know?01:47
gnomefreakif amarok doesnt get updated install it01:47
mighty_falconyep :) tnx alot, appreciate it01:47
knoppix__josh_: i dont know the normal command, but if you have nmap installed then nmap -v -sT 127.0.0.1 will get the job done01:48
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Bearcatmikm[laptop] ,   tyvm, I found it01:48
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mikm[laptop] np, Bearcat01:48
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: lol i just found it amarok 1.4.3 is in dapper-backports :( sorry01:49
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Bearcattc all01:49
nilatsWhat was that filesystem made especially for flash drives?01:49
mighty_falcongnomefreak: i was abotut o ask you that as i read on some post on the ubuntuforums, but none the less better this way as alot of the other apps were outdated01:50
mighty_falcongnomefreak: im guesging kubuntus reposatories are more up too date?01:50
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codymani ran dpkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and setup my monitor, telling it also to support 1280x1024, but even after restarting I cannot switch into that resolution even though xorg.conf shows it in there01:50
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: 3.5.2 isnt outdated01:50
mighty_falconisnt the latest kde 3.5.5 though?01:50
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: the repo i gave you are speicial01:50
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: not for dapper01:50
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slideIm upgrading to 6.06, and its asking me if I want to replace my /etc/default/tmpfs, should I?01:50
cpk2codyman: did xorg recognize the correct horiz sync and vert refresh for your monitor?01:51
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: just like gnome 2.14 is in dapper01:51
gnomefreak2.16 is in edgy01:51
mighty_falcongnomefreak: aha i see, is kubuntu using 3.5.5?01:51
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gnomefreaknoone will build repos for that. our kubuntu team is good at that :)01:51
eddiejhi. i've installed nvidia-glx several times before and all has worked. i installed yesterday, and i cant get it to work, the xorg-error states that i have an ati-card. some other people also have that error. what can i do01:51
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: only in edgy01:51
anon32flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work01:52
anon32it fails to retrieve the package01:52
jak_does edgy on amd64 run 32bit apps?01:52
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mighty_falcongnomefreak: ok i see, well this should be good as well01:52
bruenigjak_, they said that it would at least in the beginning of development, but I haven't heard anything since then01:52
mighty_falcongnomefreak: i am planning to upgrade to edgy once it is fully release in a few weeks anyways01:53
gnomefreakanon32: multiverse enabled?01:53
jak_i couldn't see much difference between dapper and edgy when running the livecd01:53
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: 10ish days01:53
jak_i thought they were putting xgl/compiz stuf on edgy too01:53
anon32gnomefreak, yes... I get error "automatic installation failed due to network or upstream changes"01:53
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gnomefreakjak_: most people wont see it01:53
gnomefreakanon32: ah on dapper?01:53
eXistenZI think my ATI card isn't using its acceleration mode in ubuntu01:53
mighty_falcongnomefreak: good good, i was really tempted to upgrade right now but decided to wait until it is fully out of beta01:53
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anon32gnomefreak, yes01:53
eXistenZHow can I check?01:53
anon32am I missing something?01:53
anon32hell, does adobe have a public beta for flash 9?01:54
slideIm upgrading to 6.06, and its asking me if I want to replace my /etc/default/tmpfs, should I?01:54
gnomefreakanon32: no that sounds like adobes issue01:54
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gnomefreakanon32: no01:54
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anon32:-(((01:54
gnomefreakslide: yes01:54
slidegnomefreak, thank you :)01:54
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gnomefreakanon32: from what i hear expect it next year some time01:54
unlucky1is there a program like dvdshrink for linux01:54
SpanoonyHello, guys... Xubuntu will only allow me to have my display at 800x600, but my laptop should allow me to bump it up to 1200x860 widescreen01:54
gnomefreakslide: ysw01:54
anon32gnomefreak, if ever..01:54
SpanoonyAny ideas how I can force the display mode?01:54
gnomefreakyw even01:54
anon32!restrictedformats01:54
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slide;)01:54
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Shishanon32: there's a blog where you can keep track of development, and join in with the hundreds of other people demanding a beta, despite the post being on a totally different topic and ending with "PS. please stop asking for betas"01:55
jak_unlucky1: k9copy -- or even run dvdshrink through wine.. lots of guides around01:55
anon32Shish, lol?01:55
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anon32well... can I have a public alpha? LOL01:55
unlucky1thanks jak01:55
Shishhttp://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/01:55
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SpanoonyGuys, I'm not asking for beta!!!01:56
SpanoonyXubuntu will only allow me to have my display at 800x600, but my laptop should allow me to bump it up to 1200x860 widescreen01:56
SpanoonyAny ideas how I can force the display mode?01:56
eXistenZWhich is better totem or xine?01:56
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nilatsbrb testing.01:56
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anon32are there instructions for installing flash manually?01:56
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anon32eXistenZ, xine01:56
anon32by a lot01:56
gnomefreak!flash > anon3201:57
eXistenZanon32, I want to switch from totem to xine. How can I do that?01:57
eXistenZ!flash01:57
anon32gnomefreak, nothing on that page01:57
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panagoswith ubuntu liveCD 5.04, how can i set up a dial-up connection?01:57
jak_apt-get install xine01:57
anon32eXistenZ, apt-get install xine01:57
gnomefreakeXistenZ: totem isnt an engine xine is01:57
anon32hell, just apt-get install mplayer01:57
gnomefreakuse totem-xine01:57
gnomefreakif you like totem01:57
anon32yea, gstreamer is the engine... which happens to such too01:57
knoppix__Spanoony: check /etc/X11/xorg.conf to be sure that your resolution is in your config file01:57
Spanoonyknoppix__, how do I do that?01:58
eXistenZanon32, xine no such package :)01:58
jak_xine plays movies full screen over 2 screens with xinerama.. thats the only reason its better!01:58
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gnomefreakanon32: yes it is01:58
anon32eXistenZ, :-P01:58
anon32get totem-xine01:58
gnomefreakanon32: Flash for i386 manual install01:58
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gnomefreakwhole section on it01:58
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knoppix__Spanoony: from command line - sudo less /etc/X11/xor.conf01:58
anon32ah wait, sorry... being stupid01:59
winterweaverhi all01:59
medonhi01:59
knoppix__Spanoony: sorry its /ect/X11/xorg.conf01:59
Spanoony:)01:59
SpanoonyThanks01:59
medonanybody help me?01:59
winterweaverHow can I know where another filesystem is mounted?01:59
SpanoonyKnoppix, it's not listed01:59
Shishmplayer does xinerama too... when xinerama works at all :-/ for me it broke on the second ubuntu release, and after a year or so with two monitors plugged in and one being dead, I gave up...01:59
SpanoonyHow can I add it?01:59
winterweaverI have xinerama02:00
medoni have erro from xchat with "* *** Couldn't look up your hostname"02:00
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knoppix__Spanoony: open a text editor and just type it in02:00
winterweaver^_^02:00
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knoppix__you have to sudo when you open the editor or else it wont let you save02:00
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panagoswith ubuntu liveCD 5.04, how can i set up a PSTN connection?02:00
eXistenZWhen I try to uninstall totem it always prompts me to uninstall 'ubuntu-desktop' to approve?02:01
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jacksonmy bluetooth keyboard won't work after a recent ugprade. when I click the "connect" button and do a hidd --search it just says "searching..." for a half-second and then terminates. it's a logitech MX 500002:01
mighty_falcongnomefreak: when i try to run amarok now nothing happens, maybe i need to reboot?02:01
LjLeXistenZ: wel, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on just about everything. that's normal02:01
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: sudo apt-get install amarok02:02
gnomefreakmake sure its installed02:02
gnomefreakproperly02:02
bruenigmighty_falcon, rebooting shouldn't help02:02
mighty_falcongnomefreak: i received the same error msg02:02
medoni have erro from xchat with "* *** Couldn't look up your hostname"02:02
mighty_falconas earlier02:02
gnomefreakit will if hes using kde atm02:02
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: what error?02:02
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medonhelp me please02:02
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Shishmedon: are you sure that's xchat, and not a message from the server?02:02
jak_medon, ignore it, doesn't matter02:03
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: i dont think you have the right amarok repo02:03
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mighty_falconamarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable02:03
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knoppix__anybody know the secret to getting a display to work with a docking station?02:03
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: log out and back in02:03
mighty_falconyep brb02:03
medonShish, that from server02:03
LjLgnomefreak: ?02:03
mikedep333hello, I need to setup a wireless adapter as an access point (master mode I think), is there a graphical utility to do this?02:03
gnomefreakLjL: ?02:03
bruenigcomputer voodoo, just log out and see if that helps02:03
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LjLgnomefreak: ... log out and back in for a dependency that's not installable?02:03
gnomefreakif hes using kde 3.5.2 loging out is needed02:03
eXistenZLjL, So I can just remove it?02:04
gnomefreakLjL: he upgraded kde02:04
gnomefreakkde wont upgrade til log out02:04
LjLeXistenZ: yes, though you'll possibly need to re-install it when you upgrade to a newer distribution02:04
medonShish, that from server02:04
LjLgnomefreak: i see. still, APT shouldn't care about those issues, should it?02:04
bruenigoh did he upgrade, I checked out there for a while02:04
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gnomefreakLjL: amarok does02:04
jak_medon: ignore it. it's not important, the server just uses your ip address instead.02:05
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knoppix__mikedep333: i've never set one up as an access point before but man iwconfig is a good starting poing02:05
mighty_falcongnomefreak: same thing :(02:05
gnomefreakand if hes not usign the right repos for it02:05
mikedep333knoppix_:yeah02:05
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: hold on take the aarok repo out of your sources.list and keep it open02:05
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medonjak_: ok jack thanks u02:05
mighty_falconok02:06
OHN0ESgnomefreak: k3b seems to be doing the trick. thx.02:06
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: add this to it deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-143 dapper main02:06
gnomefreakOHN0ES: yw02:06
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mikedep333hmm, looks like kwifimanager can help me02:06
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: now remove --purge amarok02:06
mighty_falcongnomefreak: same probelm02:06
gnomefreakthan install it02:06
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: did you use apt-get update02:06
mighty_falconyep02:07
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: sudo apt-get remove --purge amarok02:07
gnomefreakpastebin the error please02:07
mighty_falconhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26943/02:07
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winterweavercan anyone tell me what the command is to find out where a filesystem is mounted. it's a samba filesystem02:07
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: when you try to purge it?02:07
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mighty_falconnop i purge it02:08
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mighty_falconeverything is fine02:08
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mighty_falconthen when i try to install amarok02:08
mighty_falconi get that02:08
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: you removed and purged it?02:08
jak_winterweaver: mount -l will show all mounts02:08
mighty_falconyes02:08
gnomefreakok good02:08
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winterweaverjak_, thx02:08
variantjak_: mount on its own will show all mounts02:08
jak_winterweaver: the samba ones will be shown as smbfs02:08
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: apt-cache policy libvisual-0.4-002:08
LjL!info libvisual-0.4-002:08
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ubotuPackage libvisual-0.4-0 does not exist in any distro I know02:08
LjLgnomefreak: ^02:08
gnomefreakapt-cache policy libvisual02:09
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mighty_falconWazm: Unable to locate package libvisual02:09
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mighty_falcongnomefreak: Unable to locate package libvisua02:09
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eXistenZLjL, What is your favorite mp3 player?02:09
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LjLeXistenZ: no real favorite. i use Amarok because i'm a KDE user, and it ships with Kubuntu02:10
eXistenZAh, you use kubuntu02:10
fouressenceHi, after trying to compile gtk from source, and everyone telling me just to install with apt-get, I've finally decided to go that way.  However, sudo apt-get install gtk2-dev doesn't work for me.  What's the appropriate way?02:10
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: apt-cache policy apt-cache policy libvisual-0.4-002:10
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: that works here02:10
LjLgnomefreak, that package's in edgy, but not in dapper. guess he still has some edgy package of Amarok in the APT cache? perhaps an apt-get clean...02:11
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mighty_falconhmmm02:11
mighty_falconshould i go with apt-get clean?02:11
virtual-stargazeAnyone know how to set it so that a laptop's LCD display is turned off when the lid is closed without sending the laptop to sleep/hibernate?02:11
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: no02:12
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: hold on02:12
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mighty_falconok02:12
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: this isnt good let me check something02:12
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mighty_falconsure02:12
medonmake: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.02:12
medonhow to have rule to make install02:13
variantmedon: try ./configure first02:13
LjLmedon: are you running make install from the directory your source code is located? (whatever that is)02:13
jribmedon: what are you trying to compile?02:13
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: apt-cache libc602:13
gnomefreakoops02:13
gnomefreakapt-cache policy libc602:13
mighty_falcon: Invalid operation libc602:13
medonvariant, i was type ./configure before02:13
LjLmedon: and it succeeded?02:13
variantmedon: and did it exit succsessfully?02:13
pxebootwinterweaver: do you mean where it's mount point is, or on what physical computer it is mounted?02:13
medonyes02:13
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: apt-cache policy libc602:14
LjLmedon: did you also type "make"?02:14
variantmedon: are you in the source directory?02:14
mighty_falconInstalled: 2.3.6-0ubuntu2002:14
medonim try now to type make now ok02:14
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gnomefreakthought so02:14
variantmedon: you haveto type in order: ./configure && make && make install02:14
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: do you have gnome or xfce or any other desktop installed?02:14
variantmedon: make install as root02:14
virtual-stargazeGuess no one here runs Ubuntu on a laptop...:(02:14
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mighty_falcongnomefreak:  yep gnome and kde are both installed02:14
variantvirtual-stargaze: i do02:14
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: log into gnome02:14
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mighty_falcongnomefreak:  and try it from there?02:15
slideHow do I see if a package is installed?02:15
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: no02:15
variantvirtual-stargaze: and what you are saying is what my laptop does02:15
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LjLslide: apt-cache policy <packagename>02:15
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: log into gnome we have some work to do02:15
slidethank you02:15
gnomefreak:)02:15
gnomefreakbrb while your loggin in02:15
mighty_falcongnomefreak:  lol ok brb then02:15
mighty_falconk02:15
sookidid the breezy update yesterday install a firewall of some kind that wasn't there previously?02:16
medonok thanks all02:16
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variantvirtual-stargaze: click system > preferences >  power management > actions02:16
virtual-stargazevariant, mine doesn't, it blanks the screen and the backlight is left on...rather annoying when you're trying to listen to streaming music as you go to sleep...02:16
variantvirtual-stargaze: click system > preferences >  power management > actions02:16
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mighty_falcongnomefreak: ok back02:17
virtual-stargazeOptions are: Do Nothing, Blank Screen, Suspend, Hibernqate02:17
eXistenZWhere can I find information on how to install xgl driver for my 9200 ATI?02:17
variantvirtual-stargaze: yup02:17
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variantvirtual-stargaze: you want blank screen right?02:17
virtual-stargazeCurrently set to blank screen02:17
LjL!xgl > eXistenZ02:17
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jesushttp://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?shipit02:17
virtual-stargazeI want the display turned off02:17
sookior is there a way to see if something's blocking a port?02:17
virtual-stargazeNot just blanked02:18
jesusplease sing it this petition02:18
variantvirtual-stargaze: ah, that really depends on your laptop02:18
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virtual-stargazeDell CPx02:18
variantvirtual-stargaze: acpi support is very badly implemented on some laptops02:18
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: sudo apt-get remove --purge libqt3-mt02:18
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: let me know when its done02:18
virtual-stargazeWindows has no problem turning the display off02:18
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LjLjesus, you shouldn't probably do that kind of thing on here. perhaps advertize on #ubuntu-offtopic02:18
variantvirtual-stargaze: yeah, its a problem caused by a windows written dhdt in the bios02:19
LjLjesus: besides, your link is broken02:19
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variantvirtual-stargaze: microsoft i mean not windows02:19
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variantvirtual-stargaze: there is one standard acpi standard but microsoft implements it in a broken way and bios manufacturers who write to ms specification write broken acpi02:19
fredericmhi02:20
gnomefreakLjL: hes been banned for that before dont go to him links please02:20
gnomefreakLjL: its unsafe02:20
variantvirtual-stargaze: if its written to the intell spec then it shoudl be fine02:20
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LjLgnomefreak, unsafe?02:20
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: yes i know its alot to remove02:20
virtual-stargazeThing is, I didn't have this particular problem when running Mandrake 10.002:20
jesushttp://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?shipit is not broken02:20
gnomefreakLjL: he was in here spamming a virus link02:20
jesusis a petition to try mantain ubuntu shipir for free02:20
mighty_falcongnomefreak:  278 packages to be exact :P02:21
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relainAAARRGH!02:21
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: all kde stuff is being removed02:21
relaini hate iwconfig!02:21
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mighty_falcongnomefreak: reinstall it?02:21
LjLgnomefreak, ok, but then i'm not sure my konqueror will get any such virus, nor am i sure i will actually give it permission to run it ;)02:21
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: were going with imbrandon's idea02:21
gnomefreakLjL: just warning ;)02:21
virtual-stargazeOf course...with Mandrake I couldn't stream Windows media files, use my wifi card, access the windows network and share files, and a whole other list of issues. Ubuntu is great02:21
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mighty_falcongnomefreak: i would have to reconfig everything in kde right?02:22
Bensr20detcan anyone tell me where to change the splash screen I get once I log in?02:22
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: when its done remove the amarok and the kde repos from your sources.list file02:22
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: yes you have a bit before that happens02:22
mighty_falconok02:22
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indrefHow do you quit man.02:22
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=== gnomefreak gonna learn to listen to him one of these days :)
gnomefreakinfinito: /quot02:23
gnomefreakoops02:23
gnomefreakindref: /quit02:23
indref"Pattern not found, press RETURN"02:23
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gnomefreakindref: what are you trying to quit?02:23
indrefman02:23
gnomefreakjust the q02:23
indrefIsn't that what I said?02:23
mighty_falcongnomefreak: as to the kde repos im not sure as i just did a apt-get install kde-core from one of the fedault repos02:24
variantvirtual-stargaze: yeah, it might not be that probelm, thats just he most likley02:24
variant:)02:24
indrefWow, why doesn't Ctrl-C work?02:24
gnomefreakindref: q02:24
Amaranthholycow: ->PM02:24
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: dont install anything kde yet02:24
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: let it finish removing everything02:24
variantindref: just press q02:24
mighty_falcongnomefreak:  no i mean as to remove the kde repos from sources.list02:24
mighty_falconit is done removing02:24
indrefLinux needs some standards and consistancy...02:24
SUSaiyanis there any reason vi in ubuntu behaves strangely? like placing D and R and stuff when pressing arrow keys02:25
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: ok remove the amrok and the new kde repo i gave you02:25
variantindref: lol, you just need to learn how to use bash02:25
mighty_falconok done02:25
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: and anyother kde related repo other than ubuntu.com repos02:25
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: while your in there uncommnt the backports repos02:25
Bensr20detcan anyone tell me how to change the splash screen you see after you log in??02:26
mighty_falconthey say breezy though?02:26
gnomefreakBensr20det: install splash-screen-manager02:26
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: huh?02:26
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: change them to dapper02:26
SUSaiyanany way i can get vi to behave normally again?02:26
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: replace breezy with dapper02:26
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: all the other repos say dapper right?02:26
mighty_falconyep02:26
mighty_falconok done02:27
gnomefreakok good02:27
gnomefreaksudo apt-get update mighty_falcon02:27
mighty_falconlol yeah02:27
mighty_falconthat would be a waste02:27
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: heres the fun :)02:27
wastrelSUSaiyan:  vi on ubuntu is vim02:27
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mighty_falconok updated02:27
wastrelSUSaiyan:  try intsalling nvi02:27
SUSaiyani know its vim02:27
SUSaiyannvi?02:27
wastrelnvi is another vi clone that doesn't have all the vim extensions02:28
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wastreli was thinking you have a differetn problem than you probably actually have.02:28
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pak-x!display02:28
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:28
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mighty_falcongnomefreak: what should i run next02:28
slideDoes anyone have proftpd installed? Its complaining about IPv6, which Im not using, but it seems like its setup to ONLY use IPV602:28
wastrelSUSaiyan:  your arrow keys don't work in vim?02:29
SUSaiyanthey do, just not in insert mode02:29
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: sudo apt-get isntall kubuntu-desktop amarok amarok-xine02:29
SUSaiyanthey place a new line with D or something then02:29
gnomefreakinstall **02:29
wastrelthey're not supposed to work in insert mode02:29
wastreloh my htey do owrk in insret mode in vim02:29
wastrelweird.02:29
wastreli've never even tried.02:29
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SUSaiyanhehe02:30
mighty_falconThe following packages have unmet dependencies:02:30
mighty_falcon  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: ksysguard but it is not going to be installed02:30
SUSaiyanworks on my gentoo box02:30
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SUSaiyaneven in the suse vm02:30
wastrelSUSaiyan:  try http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=129002:30
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spcmnspfI'm having some errors trying to setup bugzilla in my install: Creating a new default bugzilla database...02:30
spcmnspfDBD::mysql::db do failed: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost'                                                              to database 'bugzilla' at /usr/share/bugzilla/debian/postinst-db.pl line 357, <S                                                             TDIN> line 2.02:30
spcmnspfDBD::mysql::db do failed: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost'                                                              to database 'bugzilla' at /usr/share/bugzilla/debian/postinst-db.pl line 357, <S                                                             TDIN> line 2.02:30
spcmnspfdpkg: error processing bugzilla (--configure):02:30
spcmnspf subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 202:30
spcmnspfErrors were encountered while processing:02:31
spcmnspf bugzilla02:31
spcmnspfE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:31
mighty_falcongnomefreak:  seems like the same error as earlier but with ksysguard02:31
spcmnspfcould anyone give me come pointers for this02:31
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SUSaiyanwastrel: thanks :D02:31
gnomefreakspcmnspf: use pastebin02:31
SUSaiyanthough im not sure if it works, its not me whos having the problem ;)02:31
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: same lib?02:32
mighty_falcongnomefreak:  nop this time ksysguard02:32
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: pastebin the full error please02:32
spcmnspfso I put the error into pastebin?02:32
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mighty_falconhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26945/02:33
wong1morning all02:33
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: sudo apt-get -f install    << just that no package name or nothing02:33
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wong1Are there any Ubuntu staffers here?02:34
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crimsun"staffers"?02:34
spcmnspfhttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/84902:34
wong1I have a problem withmy nick that I need help with?02:34
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mighty_falconsame problem gnomefreak02:34
crimsunwong1: /msg nickserv help02:34
wong1my nick should be "wongy" but today I'm "wong1" :-(02:34
MrKeunerfor PC Dapper A, I do everything on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP and when I send something from another PC, Dapper B. It prints some setting like strings on the printer instead of whatever I sent. those printed strings include but are not limited to -12345X@PJL SET PAPERTYPE = NORMAL ON, @PJL SET DENSITY = 3, etc. WHat might be the problem?02:35
gnomefreakwong1: /nick wongy02:35
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wong1gnomefreak: I tried that but it doesn't seem to be changing?!02:35
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: ok hold on a minute are you sure all kubuntu/kde repos are out of your sources.list02:35
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SUSaiyanwastrel: okay, thanks, it worked :D02:35
blazemongerI've been using Ubuntu and I got Rosegarden working smoothly02:36
gnomefreakwong1: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic02:36
MrKeunerwong1: bc there is another user with that nick02:36
blazemonger!Rosegarden02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Rosegarden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
mighty_falconthey should be02:36
wong1gnomefreak: OK tah02:36
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: ok try to remove it02:36
blazemonger!Rosegarden402:36
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Rosegarden4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
gnomefreakblazemonger: /msg ubotu02:36
qq1010how to insatll azureus?02:36
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gnomefreakqq1010: sudo apt-get install azureus02:37
wastrelyay02:37
blazemongergnomefreak: once Linux has more professional video editing/midi sequencing/music production software it will be the downfall of Microsoft02:37
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: is it removing?02:37
mighty_falconnop02:37
mighty_falconsame thing02:37
mighty_falconi cannot seem to install kubuntu-desktop02:37
qq1010sudo apt?02:37
mighty_falconit needs ksysuard but when i try to add that it wont let me02:37
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: what is it giving you on kubuntu-desktp02:38
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kitcheblazemonger: umm linux does have more professional video editing it costs money though02:38
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mighty_falconkubuntu-desktop: Depends: ksysguard but it is not going to be installed02:38
qq1010is it i need to insatll jav first?02:38
Peggeri am confused at how pam works, I want to tie pam toghter with /etc/passwd for openvpn02:38
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: it sounds like you didnt get rid of everything with that like it was supposed to or you have kde repos still02:38
blazemongerkitche:oh that's a good thing that it's available..what are some titles?02:38
blazemongeri'm willing to pay for higher quality midi sequencing software for linux02:38
mighty_falcongnomefreak: i doublechecked for kde repos, their all gone02:38
blazemongerit's the perfect platform02:39
gnomefreakblazemonger: join #ubuntu-offtopic please02:39
nilatsWhen there is an error in the wiki page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick), how would I go about informing someone to fix it02:39
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: why do we still have qt apps installed02:39
mighty_falcongnomefreak: where?02:39
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: sudo apt-get remove --purge libqt3-mt02:39
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mighty_falconnop no luck02:40
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: does it still want to remove things?02:40
mighty_falconsame thing02:40
mighty_falconnop02:40
eXistenZDoes anyone recommend a better multi IM client than gaim?02:40
gnomefreakok easy ewnough to fix02:40
mighty_falconit does not remove anything02:40
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mighty_falconPackage libqt3-mt is not installed, so not removed02:40
kitcheblazemon: audacity unless you mean making the music02:41
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kitcheblazemon: the video editing programs are kinda harder to find but big companies use linux for some of their editting02:41
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gnomefreakmighty_falcon: add this repo to the list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main   than sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get remove ksysguard or whatever the package name is than repomove the repo from your list02:41
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: than sudo apt-get update again02:42
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: it seems packages wanted to stay around and you cant do anything without the repos02:42
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gnomefreakbrb02:42
nilatsCould someone edit this wiki page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick to fix a mistake, as I do not wish to create an account at this time02:42
wastrelmy glasses are smudged02:42
gnomefreaknilats: what mistake02:42
nilatswith 6.0.6.102:42
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nilatswhere it says "Copy (or rename) the file isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg. Then edit the file and remove the /install/ reference in all paths. For example you would change the line containing DEFAULT /install/vmlinuz to DEFAULT vmlinuz. Save the file, and make sure it is called syslinux.cfg. It does not matter whether the line breaks are in DOS or Linux format."02:43
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mighty_falcongnomefreak: it wil not remove anything, sais nothign to remove02:43
nilatsI should also say to remove /casper/ in the same manner as removing /install/ from the syslinux.cfg02:43
Shaezscheis it safe to write to ntfs yet??02:43
nilatsotherwise when you boot it cannot find the image, this fixes it.02:43
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mighty_falcongnomefreak:  nvm there we 2 packages with the name ksysguard and another with ksysguardd02:44
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: apt-cache policy ksysguard02:44
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: get rid of both of them02:44
MatthewV!fuse02:44
nilatsInstead of saying "DEFAULT /install/vmlinuz to DEFAULT vmlinuz.", in the file it now has "DEFAULT /casper/vmlinuz/"02:44
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse02:44
MatthewVShaezsche, see above02:44
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Shaezscheis it fixed in edgy tho? i heard it was02:44
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gnomefreaknilats: do you have a launchpad account02:45
Shaezschealso have they resolved edgy's slow boot? it takes twice as long as dapper02:45
mighty_falcongnomefreak: yes its workign now02:45
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spcmnspfok I'm having trouble installing Bugzilla into my ubuntu install with these errors. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/849 Can anyone give me some pointers02:45
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: once they are gone remove the repo again02:45
wastreledgy on #ubuntu+102:45
mighty_falcongnomefreak: done that install kubuntu-desktop now02:45
nilatsgnomefreak: I do not know what that is, so I would suppose no.02:45
mighty_falconinstalling*02:45
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: after removing the repo yes02:45
MatthewVShaezsche, i doubt it will be by default any time soon... that page just has instructions on how to enable it in dapper, and the same should apply to edgy02:45
mighty_falcongnomefreak: ok 5 min for it all to download02:46
nilatsgnomefreak:  Sorry, I am a newbie =(.02:46
GhostFreemanI have been told the Ubuntu Icon in the top left corner of the screen can change colors02:46
GhostFreemanconfirm/deny?02:46
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: installing amarok and amarok-xine also?02:46
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mighty_falcongnomefreak:  yes02:46
gnomefreaknilats: ok ask them to edit it in #ubuntu-offtopic02:46
MatthewVGhostFreeman, you can change it manually, i never heard of it changing colours02:46
GhostFreemanweird02:47
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: ok good ill brb smoke02:47
mighty_falcongnomefreak:  enjoy02:47
edude05Hello everyone02:47
edude05can someone help me mount my mac osx harddrive under ubuntu02:47
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nilatsThanks gnomefreak02:47
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gss6im having a problem installing compiz02:48
Shaezschealso have they resolved edgy's slow boot? it takes twice as long as dapper02:48
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MatthewVShaezsche, edgy discussion should be in #ubuntu+102:48
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gss6The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:49
gss6  compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed02:49
gss6E: Broken packages02:49
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slacktyrohi all02:49
slacktyromy ubuntu is only with gnome02:49
slideHow can I find out what programs are being run at start?02:49
slacktyrohow can i install and change kde instead gnome?02:49
John2583right02:49
John2583kubuntu?02:49
gss6you could get kubuntu02:50
MatthewVslacktyro, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:50
gss6thats gotta be a hefty dl02:50
slacktyroand which web composer do you use at ubuntu?02:50
MatthewVgss6, a few hundred MBs02:50
MatthewVslacktyro, try bluefish, or if you want WYSIWYG, try nvu02:50
jak_quanta plus!02:50
slacktyroi used to use quanta plus and mozilla composer02:50
gss6can anyone help me with compiz?02:50
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spcmnspfI asked about this error in the bugzilla channel and they referred me over to this one. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/849. Thank for anyon pointers that can be giveen02:51
Peggeri am confused at how pam works, I want to tie pam toghter with /etc/passwd for openvpn02:52
spcmnspfI used apt-get to start this process02:52
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Madpilotslacktyro, nvu is the updated, exapanded version of Mozilla Composer. Personally, I use either Screem or Bluefish; I don't like WYSIWYG designers02:52
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jak_gss, on xgl or aiglx?02:53
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Madpilotgss6, #ubuntu-xgl02:53
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sliptteesnickserv identify rene02:53
gss6xgl02:54
gss6i could just try beryl?02:54
MarcNslipttees: time for a new irc password.  You just exposed it.02:54
MatthewVslipttees, that should be /msg nickserv identify <password>02:54
gnomefreakslipttees: /msg nickserv identify rene02:54
qq1010how to install azureus?02:54
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gnomefreakslipttees: you might want to change password now02:54
gnomefreakqq1010: sudo apt-get install azureus02:54
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slacktyroMadpilot: whereis can i get nvu ?02:55
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bctrainers-.-02:55
violot_Shutup! :P02:55
slacktyroMadpilot: whereis can i get nvu ?02:55
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AppleBoy...02:55
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AppleBoythat sucks02:55
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violot_slacktyro: sudo apt-get install nvu02:55
Madpilotslacktyro, it's in Universe repos02:55
bctrainersiditos flooding again it seems...02:55
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RopechoborraHi... i got a sound problem.. when i use some program (like Skype or others) that uses the microfone.. i cant listen to any other sound.. Like amarok... or something like that... anyone knows why?02:56
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violot_Ohhh, like that :P02:56
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AppleBoywhy did they switch from #wikipedia to #ubuntu?02:56
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AppleBoyWOW02:56
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slacktyroMadpilot: ty man02:56
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Shaezschelol02:56
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KyralHaven't seen that in a while02:56
AppleBoy+I ?02:56
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Ropechoborragnomefreak put +i for a while02:56
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rory096or +R02:56
RopechoborraYes02:56
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Ropechoborra+R sounds better02:56
Kyral+r isn't gonna stop quit floods02:56
rory096true02:57
sliptteesgnomefreak: voce fala portuques?02:57
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RopechoborraKyral +R will02:57
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Shaezschegenerally how much slower is gaming under ubuntu?02:57
KyralI'm going skating02:57
Shaezschewith cedega02:57
gnomefreakslipttees: #ubuntu-pr02:57
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AppleBoydo they always spam via quit messages?02:57
Shaezschethan windows02:57
RopechoborraHi... i got a sound problem.. when i use some program (like Skype or others) that uses the microfone.. i cant listen to any other sound.. Like amarok... or something like that... anyone knows why?02:57
MatthewVShaezsche, some claim its faster...?02:57
MadpilotAppleBoy, no, only sometimes02:57
Kyralgnomefreak: be careful with ops, if I wind up banned again... :P02:57
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Shaezschewho!02:57
slacktyroviolot: the apt-get didn't find the nvu package02:57
Shaezschethats ridiculus02:57
jak_Shaezsche: it's been slower for me02:57
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Shaezschejake how much02:57
jak_about half the fps.02:57
Shaezsche30%?02:58
ShaezscheHALF!02:58
Shaezschewow02:58
violotDid you do what what's his name said (Can't see it 'cos of the spammers)02:58
violotAdd multiverse/universe repos?02:58
Madpilotslacktyro, you need to enable the Universe repo, probably02:58
jelly-homeRopechoborra: which version of skype?02:58
violotYeah02:58
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rory096actually02:58
rory096+r will stop it because none are registered, +R won't stop it02:58
mighty_falcongnomefreak: gdm or kdm?02:58
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: what do you want as default login screen?02:59
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spcmnspfI asked about this error in the bugzilla channel and they referred me over to this one. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/849. Thanks for any pointers that can be given02:59
slacktyroMadpilot: through apt-config?02:59
Ropechoborrajelly-home The latest.. but Skype is not the problem.. because now im using other program called TeamSpeak and its the same... i cant listen other sounds while im using the mic ! =(02:59
gnomefreakAfterDeath: why are you pming me about that?02:59
Bensr20detWhen I edit a text file with the vi command how do I save the changes??02:59
mighty_falcongnomefreak:  ah ok so default session when u login?02:59
gnomefreakmighty_falcon: default login screen02:59
Madpilotubotu, tell slacktyro about universe02:59
mighty_falconok tnx02:59
mighty_falconunpacking now02:59
jelly-homeRopechoborra: check if those apps are using alsa or oss.  If they're using OSS, for Skype, try the beta.  Don't know about teamspeak.03:00
Ropechoborrajelly-home wich one should they use?03:00
Bensr20detwhat is the best command to use in the terminal to edit a file??03:00
jelly-homeRopechoborra: alsa if possible.03:00
RopechoborraAnd.. how do i check that?03:00
violotvi, nano, pico03:00
slacktyroBensr20det: vi03:00
Bensr20dethow do i save the changes after i use vi?03:00
violotBensr20det, nano and pico are easy to use, but vi and such are more powerful03:00
violotEscape, :w03:01
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slacktyroBensr20det: :wq03:01
jelly-homeRopechoborra: if there's an option, if should be under sound settings or something.03:01
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bctrainersheh03:01
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Ascyay spam ^^03:02
slacktyrogood choice gnomefreak03:02
bctrainersfreenode have a mode to strip part/quit msgs?03:02
Madpilotbctrainers, no, but most IRC apps do03:02
kitchebctrainers: it's a client option03:02
bctrainerskitche, server side chan mode like in Nefarious IRCd has a +Q mode to strip it, wasn't sure if this one had something similar also :)03:03
Ropechoborrajelly-home it says "Sound Driver: * Default driver: (oss /dev/dsp) * Default Network (8780:L) * Other: _ _ _ _ _  what should i do?03:03
RopechoborraIt is set on OSS /dev/dsp03:04
kitchebctrainers: nope but anyways it does the same thing it's not server side it's client side for caleld user mode03:04
jelly-homeRopechoborra: choose alsa if you can.03:04
mighty_falcongnomefreak:  oke doke all done now03:04
Ropechoborrajelly-home so i choose Other: and wich is the path for alsa?03:04
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slacktyroMadpilot: could you tell me how to enable universe?03:04
jelly-homeRopechoborra: hm, I don't think changing the device only will work, your app has to have support for alsa.03:05
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Madpilotslacktyro, check your PMs, I had the bot send you a useful URL03:05
kitche!universe > slacktyro03:05
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slacktyrook ty03:05
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hypetechDCC exploit what?03:05
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mighty_falcongnomefreak: all works :)03:05
jaksuse alsa, then install alsa-oss package to get oss apps using alsa03:05
mighty_falcongnomefreak: all thats left is for me to login itno kde now03:06
jelly-homeRopechoborra: I know skype beta has alsa support.03:06
mighty_falcongnomefreak: tnx a ton :) appreciate it alot03:06
naliothhypnox: please don't repeat any of that here, join #ubuntu-ops for discussion03:06
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gnomefreakyw03:06
gnomefreaknalioth: some are some are not03:06
wongygnomefreak: fixed my nick.  Hantu on #ubunut-au sorted me out03:06
jelly-homejaks: alsa-oss wrappers don't work with all apps.03:06
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jaksah, at least it works for the ones i use03:06
Ropechoborrajelly-home =( but.. i will have this problem everytime i open some voice program?03:07
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npodgesi'm having trouble compiling the latest lirc. can anyone see the problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2695403:07
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kitchealso if you guys want to know how to stop that join the irc server on port 8001 I think it is03:07
jaksnpodges: have you got the kernel headers installed?03:08
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jelly-homeRopechoborra: it depends on which sound system a particular program uses.03:08
jaksi think that was all i needed for lirc 0.803:08
npodgesyes03:08
Ropechoborrajelly-home i just read Unfortunately TS2 does not support ALSA features and always blocks the entire device.03:08
npodgesi've compiled other things, (the ivtv driver)03:09
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braniffwhat is the command to access gconf2 settings ??03:09
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matthew_wHey guys/gals - is there a way to make a java program which is executed by a shell script that I wrote up run as a service or something, so I don't constantly have to have a terminal window open for it to operate?03:09
jelly-homeRopechoborra: well, at least now you know.03:09
jribbraniff: gconf-editor03:09
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Ropechoborrajelly-home yeap... thanks for the help!03:09
braniffjrib: thanks03:09
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|506|Victimslapthello can i get a bit of help here?03:10
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matthew_wo_O03:10
dabaRmatthew_w: you want the program to be ran as you boot the computer up, is that all?03:10
npodges!ask03:10
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:10
slacktyroMadpilot: i'm updating my apt-get with the news servers, ty for the help03:10
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Madpilotslacktyro, good.03:11
|506|Victimslapti would like to install a dhcp server but when i enter sudo apt-get install dhcpd it says can not find03:12
slacktyroMadpilot: do you know if now i'll be able to download jre by there?03:12
Madpilotslacktyro, yes, you will03:12
dabaR|506|Victimslapt: search synaptic for a dhcp server03:12
Madpilotubotu, tell slacktyro about java03:12
SeanTaterI have a bunch of files nicely arranged in a (~9GB) directory tree, and I want them all flatly linked into one directory (no tree). I can't imagine I'm the first to need this. How do I do it /easily/ ?03:12
variant|506|Victimslapt: there are a bunch.. apt-get install dhcp is teh most simple option03:12
npodgestry installing gdhcpd03:12
jelly-home|506|Victimslapt: or apt-cache search 'dhcp.*server'03:12
John2583my system hangs on hardware abstraction layer start.. how can I fix this?03:12
npodgeswhich is a front end that will install dhcp3-server, which is the package you want03:13
variant|506|Victimslapt: you might want to try gdhcpd if your a noob :)03:13
npodges;)03:13
|506|Victimslaptwell with linux i am03:13
AppleBoyjizztini <-- anybody know him? I think he might have something to do with the bot attacks otherwise03:13
|506|Victimslaptso03:13
AppleBoyyep03:13
jelly-homeSeanTater: find /where/is/your/dir -type f will display all the files.03:13
jaksubotu, tell me about java03:13
SpacePuppy!java03:14
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:14
jaksubotu, tell jaks about java03:14
|506|Victimslaptok if i use gdhcpd it does not work03:14
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jaksheh03:14
matthew_wdabaR; yes, and in the background03:14
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SeanTaterjelly-home: hadn;t thought of that -- maybe I can work from there, thanks03:14
jelly-homeSeanTater: there's not much from there to find /your/dir -type f -print0 | xargs -n1 -iX echo ln -s X /dest/dir  ;-)03:14
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jelly-homeSeanTater: sorry, find /your/dir -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -n1 -iX echo ln -s X /dest/dir03:15
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npodgesjaks, i have the latest headers, is there anything else you can think that would not let lirc compile?03:16
dabaRmatthew_w: to run a command in the background, you type command&. the file that can be added to for random commands to be done at startup is /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh. does the command by itself run forever? the program...03:16
jelly-homeSeanTater: for each file it will call "echo ln -s X /dest/dir" and replace X with the filename.  Remove echo if you're satisfied ;-)03:16
jaksnpodges: i compiled it ages ago, i can't really remember, except there was a problem with the names..03:16
dabaRjelly-home: what if there are subdirs in the dir, will it go through all the subdirs too?03:17
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jaksi think the location its looking in is wrong03:17
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GmDude66hey guys, I need some help03:17
jelly-homedabaR: yes, find recurses through directory trees by default03:17
npodgesjaks, looking for the headers?03:17
dabaRnpodges: look whether there exists a /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17/Module.symvers, and if not, if the file is somewhere else, then link it. wild guess, tho03:17
matthew_wdabaR; it's a program which streams music to my Xbox 360, but it's irritating to have a terminal window open for it, constantly.  If possible, I'd like it to run daemonized, if you know what I mean.03:18
CrescendoSamsung A900 transfer to Ubuntu... how do I do it?03:18
violotGmDude66: Just state your problem.  Get on with it :P03:18
matthew_wdabaR; and to make it run on start up, I wouldn't put it in /etc/rc.local?03:18
MatthewVGmDude66, just ask03:18
violotIndeed.03:18
|506|Victimslaptso if how would i install a dhcp server if install dhcpd doesnt work03:18
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dabaRmatthew_w: what I do to run a command like that, is I run "nohup command&" in a terminal when I start up my comp.03:18
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bctrainers...03:18
violot-_-03:18
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npodgeshm...03:18
GmDude66I have installed ubuntu about a week ago (5.10) and now I just tried to install some applications but I need to be an owner. it never set my defualt account as owner and now I cannot change promissions.03:18
GmDude66how do I make 'derek' an owner03:19
jaksnpodges: is the file there? i have it on my system..03:19
dabaRmatthew_w: not sure where to put it.03:19
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npodgeswell, i follewed a tutorial here http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html ... which had me prepare the build environment a certain way03:19
npodgessee section 5.1, if you would03:19
keleusWhen in a TTY, pressing ^S turns on scroll lock... why, and how do i get that to stop happening?03:19
matthew_wdabaR; so, to run it, I just go "./start"  right now... what would I do... "nohup start&" ?03:19
npodgesi gotta be honest, i followed it mostly blindly, although it seemed to ahve worked fine up until now03:19
keleusim using a standard keyboard, fyi03:19
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dabaRGmDude66: you are sure that you never got to do sudo? try sudo ls in a terminal, and use your password. if it does not work, run groups, and see whether you are in the admin group.03:20
dabaRmatthew_w: ya03:20
slacktyroanyone is getting sound bugs?03:20
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matthew_wdabaR; and that will do it?03:20
GmDude66well, i Tried to open groups, but it just opens and then closes03:20
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npodgesGmDude66: how did you try to open it?03:21
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slacktyromy sound work well, but if i use any mixer, it stop to work and came back only when i reboot03:21
|506|Victimslaptso after i install dhcp3-server what do i do03:21
hypetechnice03:21
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GmDude66System->Admin->Users and Groups I belive03:21
GmDude66im on my windows right now03:21
dabaRmatthew_w: ya, well, it will run it in the background(&) the nohup sets it up so the command does not stop running just cause you close the terminal, which it otherwise would. NOHangUP03:21
slacktyroanyone know how to solve that problem?03:21
jelly-home|506|Victimslapt, you'll need to edit /etc/dhcp3/dchpd.conf for starters.  Read man dhcpd.conf for details, but there are a number of commented out examples already in the file.  after you set it up, start the service.03:21
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slideIs anyone in here using proftpd with mysql? I recently upgrade from breezy to 6.06 (dapper?) and now it seems proftpd doesnt even try to access the mysql db03:22
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tacomantimhas anyone here used freemind?03:22
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jaksnpodges: you haven't used lirc form the repo's have you?03:22
jelly-home|506|Victimslapt: edit with your favourite editor, as root (sudo or gksudo).03:23
npodgesno, is there one?03:23
jaksgoood03:23
matthew_wdabaR; it says "no such file or directory" when I run it... it's a shell script I'm executing called start.sh03:23
jaksavoid them, they're awful03:23
npodgesi'm using the targus source from the site.03:23
npodgeswith a pvr-150 remote03:23
GmDude66npodges: do you know why I cant set owner/open users and groups?03:23
jaksthat file should be there, have you got it? ls /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/ ?03:23
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npodgesyah, jaks... that's all there03:25
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wastrelubunto03:25
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spcmnspfSo If I was to run a java program in the background like that and make it so that closing the terminal will not kill the program... which normally outputs information to the terminal when it is running how would I monitor that output?03:25
npodgesdid you see section 5.1 of that page i linked to though? i made some symbolic links, that i'm not sure i understnad the purpose of. would any of that change it?03:25
kitchespcmnspf: use screen03:25
tacomantimdoes anyone know why a java app wouldn't resize to the window?03:25
npodgesjaks, i'm gonna reboot taht computer and hopefully have better luck when it turns back on :-D03:26
wastrelbecause the author didn't code it to resize with the window.03:26
tacomantimthey did03:26
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tacomantimi've used it before03:26
jaksnpodges: try running congiure like this.. ./configure --with-kernel-dir=/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/03:26
npodgesalright03:27
jaksconfigure isnt looking in the right place03:27
tacomantimwhat's npodges working on?03:27
jakslirc03:27
tacomantimok03:27
GmDude66guys, can someone please help me lol03:27
tacomantimare you root when you set it?03:27
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jaksGmDude66: you sound like you want to make your account root.03:28
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GmDude66yes, how do I do that. when I set ubuntu up I thought it already did it03:28
GmDude66or do I have 2 do it manually03:28
jaksDONT do it03:28
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jakswhen you want to do something as root, simply tap in your password03:28
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npodgesGmDude66: do you understnad sudo?03:29
GmDude66No.03:29
GmDude66lol03:29
jakssudo, or gksudo it03:29
npodgesokay, you shouldnt ever use root, you just do "sudo" before the command03:29
npodgesor gksudo03:29
npodgesand it prompts for your password03:29
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GmDude66ok, so what do I type in the terminal?03:29
jakssudo commandnamehere03:29
npodgesubuntu is set up such that you dont need a root account for the end user03:29
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npodgeswhat is it you want to do?03:29
GmDude66CHMOD folders03:30
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jakssudo chmod 0777 foldername03:30
npodgessudo chmod 775 file03:30
slopanyone know how to disable the ability to right-click desktop icons in kde?03:30
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jaksor whatever permissions..03:30
GmDude66ok, im going to try it again, have 2 boot into linux03:30
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tacomantimno one has used freemind here?03:31
GmDude66thansk for the help03:31
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jmworxIs Edgy x86_64 horribly broken for everyone or is it just my machine?03:31
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dmglouiscan someone help me? my internet isn't working03:31
jaksjmworx: #ubuntu+103:32
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Madpilotjmworx, Edgy questions in #ubuntu+1 please03:32
fildojmworx: plus u must remember ur using a dev release03:32
fildodmglouis: in bash type ifconfig03:32
fildosee if u have ip n stuff03:32
dmglouisi do03:33
jmworxfildo: I know it's a dev release and expected a few bugs. I didn't expect it to hang with a MTBF of less than a minute after login, which is why I'm asking if everybody is seeing the same thing.03:33
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[erisco] good evening everyone, I am having a problem when halting Ubuntu 6.06. I am running an AMD Sempron, if that is of any help. What happens is, either by using the GUI or by using the terminal, I issue the halt command. The screen will immediantly turn black, and nothing else will happen, and the computer does not shut off.03:33
fildodmglouis: behind a router?03:33
jaksjmworx: i haven't got it myself, though it was a liveCD03:33
dmglouisfildo: yes03:33
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fildook have a look @ /etc/resolv.conf03:34
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fildon check nameservers03:34
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jmworxjaks: You mean you're running an x86-64 Edgy live CD and it works fine?03:34
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[erisco] there have been times where it HAS properly shutdown. Probably one out of every 25 or so. Sometimes the screen will not turn black, and instead the desktop is frozen, my mouse is frozen, and my keyboard is frozen, but the clock in the corner still ticks away03:34
jaksi ran it on friday for about half an hour, and yeah, seemed to run fine03:35
dmglouisfildo: i've put in the dns stuff given through the router03:35
dmglouisfildo: ones 68.87.75.19403:35
npodgesi'm running an edgy machine here with no errors03:35
fildono03:35
fildothats ur problem03:35
dmglouisfildo: no?03:35
npodgesjaks, i tried configure with the option you gave, didnt change anything03:35
jmworxjaks: thanks for the info03:35
[erisco] If there is any more information I can supply, please feel free to ask. I have bumped this issue on the Ubuntu forums several times now, over the period of a couple weeks with no response. After a few hours of Googling as well, I becoming in a desparate need of someone's help with this.03:35
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fildoname server should be internal address of router03:36
dmglouisfildo: i just put the router address03:36
dmglouis?03:36
fildounless u running a dns service03:36
fildocorrect03:36
dmglouisfildo: ok let me try03:36
fildothen do /03:36
shane_How do I use extended partitions so that I don't have 5 primary partitions03:36
dmglouisfildo: what?03:36
fildosudo /etc/init.d/networking restart03:36
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kitcheshane_: you mena 4 you cna't have 5 primary03:36
jaksnpodges: no difference at all? exact error?03:36
fildon ping an address03:37
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uberspacedthis may sound crazy, but I have a network card / computer combination that refuses to DHCP03:37
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npodgesexact error03:37
fildocheck settings in /etc/network/interfaces03:37
RomanLogixHi guys... kinda new to the linux world, supporting winblows for way too long... and Im tring to get away from it... I have a issue, My main box for linux at home (the one I use to learn on) has a dual head setup, but I cant get the openGL stuff to work, its an ATI 7500 Radeon... I have been told its too old and that ATI has krappy support... What agp4/8x card do you recommend that has dual head and openGL support in dapper?03:37
fildon just make it dhcp03:37
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uberspacednpodges, exact error is that IP address isnt getting set on that host03:38
slacktyroMadpilot: did you enable all server at source.list?03:38
pingswept[erisco] : same results with shutdown -h now ?03:38
uberspacederr, i should say, no matter what card I put in that box, dhcp doesnt work03:38
uberspacedand it's worked for 4 other machines03:38
jaksnpodges: as it seems adamant on using /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17/ , try symlinking that to the kernel headers?03:38
dmglouisfildo: whenver i ping now, it says network unreachable03:38
Madpilotslacktyro, that's one way to do it, yes. You can do it graphically, though. You got the URL for it, didn't you?03:39
uberspacedwhen I set the address manually, it says network unreachable03:39
kitcheuberspaced have you tried a seperate slot or can it work when you try static?03:39
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uberspacedkitche, tried separate slot and static configuration also03:39
uberspacednetwork unreachable03:39
[erisco] pingswept, I've only tried halt and the various options under that03:39
slacktyroMadpilot: yep, but i edited it from vi03:39
binkHello all. Quick question: Does Ubuntu and Debian share a common base? Ie: does Ubuntu simply build on top of Debian?03:39
Madpilotslacktyro, OK, that works too03:39
[erisco] pingswept, I'd like to try it now, but I have something rather important running that'd be too risky to break up now ^.^03:39
jaksbink: true03:39
Madpilotbink, Debian & Ubuntu aren't binary-compatible, but Ubuntu is derived from Debian.03:40
[erisco] pingswept, I'll keep that command in mind. Is there a way I can set it as the shutdown command for the GUI?03:40
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pingswept[erisco]  Sure, I can understand that. Have you been executing halt from a terminal?03:40
npodgesbink: not entirely true03:40
uberspacedi'm googling for intel i810 dhcp issues right now03:40
kitcheuberspaced have you tried changing where the cable is plugged in? try one of the working machines in that same port03:40
binkso it's more like a fork?03:40
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L3TUC3hmm, when I insert a dvd totem responds that I dont have an URI handler?03:40
uberspacedyeah, tried that, tried different cables03:40
BlueEagleromanlogix: Any newer AGP nVidia card should (in theory) work with dual head. That's the setup I am running. I have never had ATi for their reputed bad support of linux so I would't know.03:40
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uberspacedeven swapped it out with a working card.03:40
uberspaced* a card I knew was working03:40
[erisco] pingswept, after the GUI failing to work (also often doesn't logout without the screen going black) I tried the terminal. So both are experiencing the same problem03:40
pingswept[erisco]  Not sure about the GUI. I imagine so, but I don't know for certain.03:40
binkSo, if there is a change in the debian source, Ubuntu does not benefit from that change?03:41
[erisco] pingswept, if I cannot find that out and change it easily, that's no big deal. Just will have to open up my terminal03:41
bink(and vice-versa...)03:41
Madpilotbink, Ubuntu has been described as a "spoon" - and yes, there is feed back & forth between Debian & Ubuntu03:42
npodgesnot all changes to ubuntu make it back up stream to debian, afaik, but i'm not sure on that... anyone?03:42
[erisco] pingswept, I just wanted to get this addressed. I don't know how risky it is on the OS for it to crash like that, as I have to kill the power (taking five seconds thanks to the 'child safe' feature)03:42
pingswept[erisco]  Well, that's sort of good. I'd try "shutdown -h now" from a terminal and see how far it gets. Also, check to see if there is a log in /var/log/03:42
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pingswept[erisco]  Good luck.03:42
RomanLogixBlueegle: What video card do you run... I was just going to ebay one... I just want something that works and supports openGL correctly, just for google earth and the like, I dont play games anymore03:42
[erisco] pingswept, will that command actually shutdown my computer? :P03:42
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binka spoon ... awesome. I'll search on that. Thanks all!03:42
npodgesRomanLogix: anything nvidia greater than fx 5200 is a safe bet03:43
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Wazmhey03:43
pingswept[erisco]  Yes. Well, it shutsdown mine. Yours has a problem where it won't shutdown.03:43
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ianmacgregorDoes flash work in Firefox in Dapper yet?03:43
[erisco] pingswept, I just ran the --help for shutdown, I see "now" is the time at which it runs03:43
Madpilotianmacgregor, of course03:43
[erisco] pingswept, so I could set a delay on it? hhm, interesting03:43
jaksRomanLogix: if you find one let me know! i have the same issues... i've just given up on using opengl03:43
Jewfroflash 7, in 32 bit, 64 bit is possible but painful03:43
thejoeandchipyes flash works fine03:44
thejoeandchipbut only up to 703:44
pingswept[erisco]  Yes. I don't know how useful it is, but it's cool.03:44
[erisco] pingswept, and a message? hmm, probably play around with that lol03:44
thejoeandchipif you want flash 9 then you need ies4linux03:44
npodgesjaks, what issues do you have with opengl?03:44
Wazmthat's a secret03:44
jakssimply doesnt work03:44
npodgeshow? with nvidia?03:44
pingswept[erisco]  Through SSH, it is very good.03:44
Jewfroor wine and the windows version of firefox03:44
[erisco] pingswept, could be useful if you have a download going on (like me) and would appreciate the computer to shutdown a few hours after the estimated download time03:44
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ianmacgregorMadpilot: There's a note on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats that says that flash no longer works in Dapper as of 2006-10-08.. which is why I asked.03:44
[erisco] pingswept, saves power :D03:44
jaksno no, ATI. OpenGL won't work whilst I have a Xinerama set up03:45
L3TUC3whats a good media player?03:45
uberspacedhmm, found an old document stating that redhat 6.2 does not correctly detect memory settings for intel i810...03:45
thejoeandchipmplayer03:45
pingswept[erisco]  Cool.03:45
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jaksi can use just one screen and get 3d acceleration, but i prefer the space03:45
Madpilotianmacgregor, first I've heard of that problem; nobody here's mentioned anything...03:45
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[erisco] pingswept, ah, but why through SSH? If the computer shuts down, the connection is just killed anyways, no? What else would there be?03:45
ianmacgregorMadpilot: Have you read that page (Flash for i386 architecture) section recently? It looks like it did work but now it doesn't.03:46
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pingswept[erisco]  In conjunction with a message, it can be used for, um, amusing effects.03:46
RomanLogixjaks: same here, I have been using duals for years now and REFUSE to go back... but the ati card does some very weird things at times... Its just easier to get a new one at this point03:46
npodgesoooooh, ATI that changes everything03:46
CrescendoHow do I check a filesytem on a mount?03:46
John2583where is documentation on ubuntu?03:46
Madpilotianmacgregor, I haven't, but I'm on this channel a lot and nobody's come here complaining or asking...03:46
[erisco] pingswept, haha, well if someone else was actually on the computer :P kind of a retarded feature heh03:46
John2583like text documents, online local documentation?03:46
MadpilotJohn2583, System->Help->System Documents03:47
Werokhanyone know how to install a linksys wusb54g (v4) in ubuntu (server) without using ndiswrapper? It looks like it's supported (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported) but I don't know how to install it03:47
Jewfrohas anyone installed xchat from source, I'm missing a dependency, but not sure what, something to do w/glib03:47
pingswept[erisco]  "The internet is now ending. 01010101010101"03:47
ianmacgregorMadpilot: I suppose I could just nstall it and see for myself, eh?03:47
RomanLogixjaks: I think this will do... nVidia GeForce FX 5200 256MB TV OUT 8X AGP 5500 570003:47
John2583Madpilot, local as in /usr/local/share/documentation03:47
[erisco] pingswept, now that'd be a day!03:47
RomanLogixjaks: http://cgi.ebay.com/nVidia-GeForce-FX-5200-256MB-TV-OUT-8X-AGP-5500-5700_W0QQitemZ150046101281QQihZ005QQcategoryZ40161QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item15004610128103:47
Madpilotianmacgregor, yeah, try it. If that report is accurate, let us know. Otherwise edit the wikipage to remove it, please!03:47
uberspacedwhere does grub put it's configuration file?03:47
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jaksRomanLogix: thanks, i shall have a look03:47
ianmacgregorMadpilot: Will do :)03:47
braniffuberspaced, /boot/grub/grub.conf03:48
[erisco] pingswept, wonder if I could do the same thing through telnet03:48
npodgesjaxs, i have a geforce fx 5200 which always worked fine with opengl, and it's cheap03:48
RomanLogixIm ebaying it right now... some times you have to throw in the towel and buy new hardware03:48
ianmacgregorMadpilot: Synaptic says "This package will download flash_linux.tar.gz archive from03:48
uberspacedthanks03:48
npodgesnow, i have a lappy with a go 780003:48
ianmacgregorMacromedia (or mirror)." Looks like it will dl a tarball and I have to install it manually.03:48
MadpilotJohn2583, I think it's /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/03:48
pingswept[erisco]  Hey, with telnet, you could publicize your password *at the same time*!03:49
Madpilotianmacgregor, the Flash install script should still work - haven't had to run it myself in months.03:49
jaksianmacgregor: it'll downloaded and install it for you.03:49
ianmacgregorMadpilot: Ahh, ok03:49
ianmacgregorjaks: Thanks :)03:49
[erisco] pingswept, amazing. Well I'll admit, I don't get it ;)03:49
pingswept[erisco]  Telnet sends your password in plaintext, which is why it's not used much any more.03:50
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John2583Madpilot, /usr/share/doc is what i was looking for thanks.03:50
WerokhI didn't have this wlan adapter plugged in at install, or else it probably would have found it... what command do I use to "probe for new hardware" (kind of like add new hardware wizard in windows)?03:50
jaksRomanLogix: npodges: 5200 is a safe bet then?03:50
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[erisco] pingswept, over intranets it'd be just fine though. no?03:50
John2583Madpilot, just trying to get at the NVIDIA docs03:50
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npodgesyeah, and i got mine a couple years ago for 70 dollars03:51
npodgesso i imagine they're cheap now03:51
jaksahh even better then!03:51
pingswept[erisco]  Assuming you trust all the hosts on your intranet, yes.03:51
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npodgesjaks, sorry, what was the last suggestion you had that i try for compiling this?03:51
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wastreland you're not running over wifi03:52
ianmacgregorMadpilot: It works fine. I'll edit the wiki.03:52
jakscreating a symlink03:52
jUggERNAUt1980hi!03:52
[erisco] pingswept, entirely ;) but would it be possible through telnet eh? are the same "things" accessible through SHH as telnet? Are they simply two different methods of connection?03:52
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Madpilotianmacgregor, good to know - thanks.03:52
RomanLogixjaks: I was told to go with that by everyone else... the 5700 is also cheap03:52
RomanLogixI will go with bigger number I think...03:52
pingswept[erisco]  SSH is basically telnet + encryption.03:52
npodgesright now, i've got /usr/src/linux as a sym link to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.1703:52
jUggERNAUt1980i have a box here that has linux/xp dual boot.  i can't see my ntfs partition when i'm in linux.  is there any way i can access my xp partition through linux?03:52
npodgesand the headers in /usr/src where they normally live03:53
pingsweptTry ssh 127.0.0.1 in a terminal.03:53
[erisco] pingswept, I'm locked out of myself ;)03:53
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pingswept[erisco]  Try ssh 127.0.0.1 in a terminal. It will let you log in to your local machine.03:53
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pingswept[erisco]  What? Locked out?03:54
L3TUC3umm, how do i install mplayer?03:54
jaksnpodges: something like ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17 /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`03:54
wastrel!ntfs03:54
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:54
jaksRomanLogix: bigger the better!03:54
[erisco] pingswept, connection refused on port 2203:54
uberspacedhey, so i have no grub configuration file in /boot/grub03:54
wastreldid you install ssh?03:54
uberspacedit's really weird.03:54
pingswept[erisco]  Ah, you aren't running sshd.03:54
wastrelinstall openssh-server03:54
[erisco] pingswept, nope :D03:54
jUggERNAUt1980!fuse03:54
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:54
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pingsweptwastrel is right03:54
pingsweptapt-get install openssh-server03:55
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jUggERNAUt1980thanks!!03:55
CrescendoHow do I check a filesytem on a mount?03:55
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braniffCrescendo, man fstab03:55
ubuntu_how do i use terminal connection from linux to a windows machine03:55
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[erisco] pingswept, my ultimate point, our computers at school are incredibly insecure. They have a telnet prompt available ;)03:56
jaksubuntu_: telnet03:56
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ubuntu_how do i go about that03:56
youserhy anyonr around03:56
pingsweptubuntu_ jaks is right, but you need a server running on the windows machine.03:56
[erisco] pingswept, now what kind of fun would THAT be to start shutting down computers :D03:56
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braniffCrescendo, it's a setting in /etc/fstab03:56
braniffCrescendo, last column in /etc/fstab if i remember correctly03:57
ubuntu_telnet has to be installed on the windows machine why cant i use remote desktop03:57
pingswept[erisco]  for even more fun, install ethereal and listen for passwords. Then you can shut down computers and make it look like someone else is the perp.03:57
wastrelthere's a terminal server client in gnome isn't there?03:57
jaksubuntu_: you can.03:57
youseri need some help mounting an ubuntu loaded hard drvive03:57
pingswept[erisco]  Actually, no, don't do that. That's a terrible idea.03:58
jaksubuntu_: rdesktop ipaddress03:58
jaksi think03:58
[erisco] pingswept, aww, comon, I like the sounds of it already.03:58
bruenigyouser, you intend this to be your root drive or is this just so you can view the files in it?03:58
[erisco] pingswept, it'd be harmless fun :P03:58
youserjust to view the files03:58
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youseri installed my current running ubuntu on a new hard drive and need the files off my old dapper03:58
ubuntu_how do i find the computers ip i have more than one on my network03:58
ubuntu_ping my network03:59
bruenigyouser, you know the name of it, like /dev/hda something or other?03:59
ubuntu_with dos03:59
youseryes03:59
pingswept[erisco]  Well, you didn't hear it from me. But do install ethereal. It's sweet, and it helps you understand network protocols.03:59
youserbut not al the ptoperties03:59
[erisco] pingswept, worse comes to worse, I am banned from those window driven virus nightmares on Internet Explorer03:59
[erisco] pingswept, I have had a couple other network analyzers (spl?) not sure if I have used ethereal yet03:59
bruenigyouser, what is its name and do you intend to mount this everytime you boot or just this once to get your files?03:59
Werokhwhat's a good command line based text editor to use in ubuntu?03:59
jaksubuntu_: go on that machine, get command prompt up, and use ipconfig03:59
bruenigWerokh, nano and vim04:00
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pingsweptWerokh: nano?04:00
Werokhthanks, just couldn't remember what they were called ;)04:00
pingsweptHmm, I notice nobody mentioned emacs . . .04:00
youserwell just permanently mounted incase i need to go back to anything on it if needed04:00
[erisco] pingswept, it seems awefully familiar04:00
bruenighe said good pingswept04:00
[erisco] pingswept, haven't installed much since my new comp so04:00
youseron my old dapper i mounted my windows drive but cant find any guide to mount an ubuntu drive on ubuntu04:00
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[erisco] pingswept, oh yeah, definately used this before ;)04:01
bruenigyouser, you need to edit the /etc/fstab04:01
youserright04:01
slacktyroi'm having problems with sound, it works well but if i use any mixer it'll stop to work, so i need to reboot to get it back04:01
slacktyrohow can i solve it?04:01
L3TUC3how can I play dvds in ubuntu?04:01
[erisco] pingswept, also ran etherape (I think it is called)04:01
bruenig!libdvdcss04:01
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:01
jakspmount it!04:01
thejoeandchipinstall libcssdvd04:01
braniffslacktyro, man alsactl and man alsamixer04:01
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jaksL3TUC3: you're probably gonna want mp3 playback too. look for something called automatix, or easyubuntu04:02
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Nihil85hi everyone, i'm in a big trouble04:02
DonnieDhas anybody used linksys wirelessg with ubuntu?04:02
ubuntu_what if it says connection refused should i use rdp or vnc04:03
yousercan i dual boot with 2 versions of linux/04:03
jaksfor vnc, you need a vnc server on Windows04:03
bruenigyouser, sure04:03
kitcheyouser yes you can04:03
yousernice04:03
[erisco] pingswept, it is asking for an interface. I don't recall it asking for this before. what does it mean?04:03
youseri just need the right info entered into my fstab right?04:03
ubuntu_i figured it out thank u04:04
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jaksyouser: and in grub04:04
youseri dontknow how to eit grub?04:04
pingswept[erisco]  eth0? Is that what you mean?04:04
slacktyrobraniff, i already read that but i'm not able to solve it04:04
bruenigyouser, hmm, you got a lot of work ahead of you04:04
jaksyouser: actually, only grub. sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:04
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kitcheyouser: nope you don't edit /etc/fstab at all04:05
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kitcheyouser: unless you want to mount partitions from both distros into the other one04:05
youserbut will i be able to access both hard drives on either version while running>04:05
[erisco] pingswept, whatever the application is asking for. It is saying it needs an interface to capture packets04:05
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kitcheyouser: yes04:05
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pingswept[erisco]  You're talking about ethereal?04:06
kholerabbihow do I change the fileowner of a file in the terminal?04:06
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npodgesjaks, i hate to say it, but i'm about to give up and try the lirc in the repos.04:06
[erisco] pingswept, yes indeed04:06
npodgesis there any chance of it working?04:06
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[erisco] pingswept, is eth0 yet another? heh04:06
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ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager04:06
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bruenigyouser, to access both HDs you will have to edit fstab and grub04:06
jaksnpodges: the repo's are ancient, and you probably have no hope of getting them to work on any recent ubuntu release04:06
pingswept[erisco]  Perhaps try starting it as root? It may not be able to capture traffic as a normal user.04:06
youserok ok04:06
yousercuz i recently got a 200gb hard drive04:06
pingswept[erisco]  Hang on a second; let me check . . .04:06
youseri have new dapper on it now04:07
jaksnpodges: but then again, its probably worth a try - you never know!04:07
youserbut my old ubuntu has all my settings04:07
youseri wanted just to use the new one as storage04:07
[erisco] pingswept, it is in root ^.^ thanks for taking the time to check, I'm trying to puzzle it out too04:07
youserbut couldnt get my comp running04:07
bruenigyouser, you could have just created another partition and stored stuff on it, you don't need a whole new install04:07
kitcheyouser: you probably have the 200gb drive as master04:07
youseri do, now04:08
pingswept[erisco]  eth0 is likely the name of your first ethernet card, which is the interface it's looking for.04:08
youserand the 10gb old ubuntu breezy  updated to dapper as slave04:08
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Werokhok, actually ubuntu did find my usb nic, but how do i set the ssid and wep key via command line? the wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500) says to use the gui, but I don't have a gui04:08
[erisco] pingswept, my mistake. I had originally started it up as a normal user, which I was aware of. I started it up as root, didn't see anything different, same error. Went to the config, and eth0 popped up04:08
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jaksWerokh: yes you do! System -> Adminstration -> NEtworks04:09
[erisco] pingswept, you were right all along ;)04:09
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DonnieDwell ubuntu comes with the drivers for the chipset that linksys wusb54g uses.  I get it to register as ra0usb but when I try to log on to the router it freezes...04:09
pingswept[erisco]  I forgot that ethereal is now called wireshark. Oh, OK, good.04:09
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wolfbane99hey every one04:09
[erisco] pingswept, same deal though right? or is wireshark newer?04:09
JbirkHello04:09
JbirkHow is it going?04:09
tgelterhey all. I'm looking for a cheap (but worthwhile) sata raid card so that I can ditch fakeraid...it would only need to have 2-4 ports and support raid 0. Any suggestions?04:09
wolfbane99good04:09
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JbirkI have a Netgear WG311V304:10
JbirkIs it compatible with Ubuntu?04:10
yousercould i now go back to running my old breezy dapper with my new dapper as just storage?04:10
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wolfbane99i just joined ubuntu today04:10
pingswept[erisco]  Same program. There was some dispute over the Ethereal name a few months ago.04:10
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[erisco] pingswept, you said something about trolling for passwords. is something like that going to show up under the "info" column?04:10
wolfbane99no more windows04:10
pingswept[erisco]  Or maybe it's been a year.04:10
darnell_why does evolution tell me that the calendar ive selected is read-only?04:10
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darnell_when i try to make a new appointment or task?04:10
pingswept[erisco]  Good lord, why did I ever start this?04:10
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pingswept[erisco]  But try telnetting somewhere, and then look at the packets captured.04:11
wolfbane99i was wondering if some 1 could help me please04:11
[erisco] pingswept, oh don't get any ideas. I cannot even get ethereal on the school computers, unless it has a windows version04:11
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youseri just ned help permanently mounting my old ubuntu drive as a boot04:11
[erisco] pingswept, but the student numbers and usernames are very very easily available. All you have to say is "I forgot my student number" and they'll hand you the sheet :P04:11
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[erisco] pingswept, it'll have everyone in the class on it04:12
\Dj\Krit\does ispconfig have an irc room?04:12
wastrel!mount04:12
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks04:12
wastrelwell that sucks04:12
jaks[erisco] : ethereal does have a windows version04:12
yousercuz it took me a month to get my ubuntu settings set up04:12
kitche[erisco] : umm there is a windows version of it :)04:12
pingswept[erisco]  Well, it wasn't my idea. Or at least it shouldn't have been.04:12
wastrel!fstab04:12
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions04:12
pingsweptwolfbane99: what's up? Problem?04:12
\Dj\Krit\or can anyone help me with ispconfig04:12
kitche[erisco]  but wireshark is better it seems now04:12
youserthanks04:12
[erisco] pingswept, I am far more interested about learning more about networking rather than trying to be malicious on our poor school's networking job04:13
kitche[erisco]  since wireshark as a few nice features that ethereal doesn't have04:13
jaks\Dj\Krit\: do you mean ifconfig? or a seperate application?04:13
[erisco] kitche, name 'em ;)04:13
pingswept[erisco]  Ooh, what are they?04:13
JbirkI need a wireless card04:13
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JbirkI have a Netgear WG31104:13
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Jbirkwill that work?04:13
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[erisco] pingswept, what are what? :S04:13
pingswept[erisco]  Accch. I meant that last bit toward kitche.04:13
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wolfbane99can some 1 help im a noob to ubuntu04:13
[erisco] pingswept, no problem04:14
keithhhhhI killed GRUB re-installing xp in my LINUX/XP system ... how can I get it back?04:14
wastrel!grub04:14
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:14
kitche[erisco]  well wireshark and ethereal are the same application in reality but you can find hte features of it at http://wireshark.org04:14
foureight84i'm trying to install XML::Smart through apt but i can't seem to find it. can anyone help?04:14
pingswept[erisco]  But that's great that you're interested in networking. Go dissect a TCP stream, and you'll be ubersomething.04:14
[erisco] pingswept, I am trying to connect to myself with telnet. Except, I don't know the port it is trying to use, and the connection is refused. I'm missing something in the equation..04:14
pingswept[erisco]  That would be telnetd.04:15
wastreltelnet is port 2304:15
wastrelwhy aren't you using ssh04:15
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pingsweptYou need a program to listen for connections, which is not running by default.04:15
pingsweptwastrel: he wants to try to sniff his own password.04:15
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wastrelfun fun04:15
[erisco] wastrel, you bet ;)04:16
JNeverMindivebeen running teamspeak server in xp and slack10 without every any probs.  but ive recently been testing ubuntu server 6.06 and few times a day all connected clients get kicked at the same time04:16
wastrelwell you can telnet to any open port04:16
[erisco] pingswept, I'll install it. thanks for the name04:16
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wastrelgot a web server or mail server ?04:16
JNeverMindi installed ubuntu server on 2 seperate pcs, and its the same prob04:16
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pingsweptwastrel: good point. great for debugging mail servers.04:16
foureight84can anyone tell me what the package name is to install XML::Smart through apt?04:16
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wastrelif you're just sniffing for packets it's exactly the same thing04:16
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sethkfoureight84, that's CPAN04:17
[erisco] pingswept, bah? I installed telnetd, opened up the telnet prompt, tried to connect to myself... connection refused. Are the configurations I am missing?04:17
kitcheJNeverMind: probably an odd issue has to do with how the server is setup could be number of factors really iptables the ts server I would start with04:17
kitche[erisco]  you have to start telnetd04:17
pingswept[erisco]  Use ps to see if telnetd is running.04:17
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foureight84sethk, what?04:18
sethkordinarily telnet would be started by the inet daemon04:18
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sethkfoureight84, that's  Perl package that you get using CPAN, the perl module system04:18
[erisco] pingswept, nope :P04:18
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JNeverMindim the only one who doesnt get disconnected, im connected from in the lan04:18
foureight84ah thanks04:18
[erisco] pingswept, okay here is another one of those intelligent questions. How do I start it? :D04:18
pingsweptNot sure. Hmm.04:18
wastrel/etc/init.d/telnetd start04:19
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wastrelsudo04:19
foureight84thanks sethk04:19
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wastrelunless it's running under inetd04:19
wastrelthen it's more complicated04:19
wastreldoes anyone still use inetd?04:19
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[erisco] wastrel, well it said the location did not exist04:19
sethkwastrel, sure04:19
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wastrel[erisco] :  ls /etc/init.d | grep telnet04:20
sethk[erisco] , sounds like it isn't installed yet04:20
[erisco] it is installed, I just did for sure04:20
Blinker_i'm having a bit of an interesting difficulty with my partitions. i have 3 seperate areas listed as 'unallocated' and gparted wont let me combine them for one partition, is there a way to fix this?04:20
[erisco] wastrel, what is that supposed to do?04:20
wastrellooks for anything with telnet in the name in /etc/init.d04:20
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[erisco] wastrel, and if it just returns back to the command line?04:20
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wastrelthen nothing :] 04:21
wastrelthere's no hits04:21
sethk[erisco] , then it isn't installed04:21
wastrelit might be installed but wrapped up in inetd.04:21
[erisco] sethk, sudo apt-get install telnetd I just ran it04:21
wastreli think debian likes inetd for telnet server04:21
JNeverMindive set teamspeak to run as a service04:21
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sethkwastrel, yes, the default is to run it from inetd04:21
ArrenLex"record macro" is disabled in OOo impress. Why? How can I enable it?04:21
sethkwastrel, the program name is in.telnetd04:21
[erisco] down with telnetd and up with inetd?04:21
wastrelin which case you need to edit /etc/inetd.conf  and enable telnet (prolly uncomment the telnet line) then run  /etc/init.d/inetd restart04:22
kitchewastrel: all distros do but doesn't mean you have to use it though really04:22
JNeverMind" /etc/init.d teamspeak start stop restart works good04:22
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sethkkitche, true, but for a newbie who doesn't know how to create his own init script, it's easier04:22
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gss6can someone help me with compiz?04:23
[erisco] wastrel, when I went to remove telnetd, it said it did not exist?04:23
jaksgss6: #ubuntu-xgl04:23
wastrelyou're going to make me install telnetd eh04:23
[erisco] wastrel, AHH, inetd removed it when I installed it. I guess they would conflict04:24
pingswept[erisco]  I think installing telnetd adds a line to inetd.conf04:24
[erisco] perhaps?04:24
npodgesgss6, what's the question04:24
pingsweptSo all you have to do is restart /etc/init.d/inetd04:24
[erisco] pingswept, no such file or directory =\04:25
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pingsweptBut you did install telnetd?04:25
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John2583how do i turn off hal from starting on boot?04:25
wastreltelnetd installs without inetd04:25
sethk[erisco] , no, that makes no sense.  inet starts telnet, but it doesn't conflict with it.04:25
[erisco] pingswept, yes04:25
wastreli'm installing inetd now.04:25
John2583i dont see hal in /etc/init.d04:25
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wastrelinted isn't installed on his system.04:25
pingsweptHmmmm.04:25
sethk[erisco] , so it wasn't erased by installing inetd04:26
slacktyrobye all, good night04:26
sethkwastrel, well, then doubly he didn't delete telnetd by installing inetd  :)04:26
[erisco] sethk, I am just as confused, I installed telnetd, then it vanished04:26
sethk[erisco] , do ls -l /usr/sbin/in.telnetd04:26
[erisco] sethk, now I have both, connection still refused. let me see if it is running04:26
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sethk[erisco] , you edited the inetd configuration, and started inetd?04:26
pingsweptIt seems that I have an inetd.conf with a line referencing telnetd, but no entry in init.d corresponding to inetd.04:26
[erisco] sethk, syntax error in that command you gave me04:27
gss6npodges, when i try to apt-get compiz i get the following error04:27
[erisco] sethk, I am scrolling back up now to read it again04:27
gss6  compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed04:27
gss6E: Broken packages04:27
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wastrelthe inetd package installs /etc/init.d/inetutils.inetd04:27
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[erisco] sethk, this is what is in the file04:28
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[erisco] telnetstreamtcpnowaittelnetd.telnetd/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/in.telnetd04:28
[erisco] sethk, nothing *seems* commented04:28
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sethk[erisco] , that looks correct.  make sure that /usr/sbin/in.telnetd exists.  make sure inetd is running.  make sure you aren't confusing inetd and xinetd.04:28
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wastrelhosts.allow is empty also04:29
wastrelbut so is hosts.deny04:29
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wastrelhow many linux users does it get to install a telnet server on ubuntu :] 04:29
[erisco] sethk, I get this "telnetd: getpeername: Socket operation on non-socket *new line* ."04:29
Lil_Shankwhat do i do with a .so file?04:29
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mneptontelnet?!04:30
[erisco] wastrel, well when you are dealing with ME, it could take just a few ;)04:30
mneptonwhat year is this?04:30
wastrelmnepton:  199204:30
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mneptonwastrel: explains why my copy of OS/2 2.1 hasn;t arrived yet.04:30
sethk[erisco] , that's bizarre04:30
pingsweptmnepton: 1989.04:30
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sethkLil_Shank, a .so is a shared library (so means shared object)04:30
mnepton[erisco] : why not ssh?04:31
youserhey does anyone know why my hard drive didnt mount?04:31
[erisco] sethk, the *new line* part literally means a new line04:31
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sethkLil_Shank, generally it would bo in /lib or /usr/lib, but why are you dealing with a .so instead of installing something?04:31
youseri entered this into fstab: /dev/hdd1       /media/breezy   linux      auto,exec,rw04:31
pingsweptmnepton: he wants to try to sniff his own password.04:31
[erisco] mnepton, because then I cannot sniff out my own password with ethereal ;)04:31
sethk[erisco] , make sure there is an entry in /etc/services for telnet04:31
mneptonkinky.04:31
wastrelyou can telnet to a different server04:31
[erisco] I am SO productive! :P04:31
wastrel/etc/services has telnet by default.04:31
Lil_Shanksethk, i was downloading binaries for a new program and it just had .so files in it04:31
Werokhif i rearrange the order of the interfaces in \etc\networking\interfaces, is that the order that it will try to start them?04:31
sethkwastrel, yes, I know, but he is getting a message with a blank socket number04:32
digivoreHow do i add folders to my PATH ?04:32
mneptonWerokh: yes04:32
Werokhok this is strange, but my wlan won't work until the eth0 cable is plugged in04:32
[erisco] sethk, there is a line there indeed. "telnet23/tcp"04:32
Werokhbut then it works fine...04:32
sethk[erisco] , ok.  The message may be misleading.04:32
mneptondigivore: PATH=${PATH}:/yadda/blah/foo/bar04:33
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[erisco] sethk, I still cannot telnet to myself if that is what you mean04:33
sethkWerokh, you mean if you disconnect the cable it continues to work?04:33
mneptondigivore: (then export again)04:33
youseranyone nw how this is wrong?04:33
youser/dev/hdd1       /media/breezy   linux      auto,exec,rw04:33
jakslinux, as the fs?04:33
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jakstry ext3 ?04:33
jaksor 204:33
sethk[erisco] , I'd have to see what it thinks is a non-socket operation, which would mean running strace which I suspect you aren't quite ready for.04:33
sethkjaks, ext304:33
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Werokhno i guess not seth, i unplugged it and it dies04:34
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sethk[erisco] , something is still not set up correctly.04:34
digivoremnepton, can i add that to a file so it will always do that?04:34
youseri had linux as type04:34
pingswept[erisco]  I got the same error.04:34
sethkWerokh, then it isn't working at all, you are just running through the wired interface.  :)04:34
jaksyouser: change it to ext304:34
mneptondigivore: yup, any of your shell's rc files04:34
[erisco] sethk, if this is 1992 technology, I'd have hoped it'd be a tad bit simpler :P04:34
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pingsweptIt's almost as if nobody is using telnet any more.04:34
Werokhbut I have both interfaces set up with a different ip address, and when it's plugged in, I can ping the wlan ip address04:34
wastrelheh04:34
sethk[erisco] , pingswept it's possibly a DNS Issue04:34
digivoremnepton, where would i find one of those rc files?04:35
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jakspingswept: why would you want to use telnet though?04:35
[erisco] pingswept, actually, I've seen it used on so many intranets heh04:35
mneptondigivore: in your ~/04:35
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jaksi mea, apart frmo sniffing your own password04:35
wastreli installed telnetd and am getting the same error trying to start it.04:35
Ykstorthow do I know if my kernel's patched to 2.6.15-26.45 ?04:35
sethk[erisco] , it's doing a lookup (getpeername) and failing.  that should be a reverse DNS Lookup, so make sure reverse dns lookups are working.04:35
mneptonYkstort: uname -a04:35
[erisco] sethk, want to walk me through that? heh04:35
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Ykstortuname -a says 2.6.15-26 but I know it's got some patchness04:35
mlalkakaSince it doesn't support extents, does an ext3 filesystem ever need defragmenting?04:36
wastrelcan you do reverse dns on a non routable ip?04:36
mneptonok, it's now officially my monday morning. off to the office. bbiab.04:37
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sethk[erisco] , I have to do a work thing.  If I can, I'll come back to you.  I venture to speculate that nobody tests telnet before a distro version is released, and you are just running into a bug.  Can you use ssh instead?  That's what most people are doing, and there are windows clients for it that are known to work.04:38
KS-Fanhi04:39
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wastrel[erisco] :  if there are ANY web or mail servers on your local network, you can still do your packet sniffing.04:39
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Ykstort how do I know if my kernel's patched to 2.6.15-26.45 ?04:39
Ykstortuname -a says 2.6.15-26 but I know it's got some patchness :\04:39
wastrelor any servers really04:40
[erisco] wastrel, there is one web server. Only problem, it is on this computer, and it is on the OTHER OS, it's a Windows IIS 5, I was looking a bit into ASP .NET04:40
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[erisco] I'm a learning web developer / web designer04:41
wastrel[erisco] :  did you install a ssh server on ubuntu?04:41
wastrelyou can telnet to that :] 04:41
[erisco] know xhtml, css, some graphical things around photoshop, PHP 5, a tiny bit of javascript basics04:41
frix__hi! are there some xgl/compiz users?04:41
[erisco] wastrel, GAH! okay okay... how do I connect to the SSH server?04:41
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wastreltelnet localhost 2204:41
[erisco] wastrel, in assumption there is already one04:41
glickhey has anyone tried songbird?04:41
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frix__i get 'compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed" when i try to install compiz and compiz-plugins04:42
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jaksfrix__: yeah, they all sit in #ubuntu-xgl04:42
AfterDeathany ops here, iPalazGOLD is onjoin spamming04:42
frix__jaks: thank you04:42
[erisco] wastrel, connection refused. perhaps not.04:42
eXistenZ!vim704:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vim7 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:42
eXistenZ!vim04:42
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code04:42
wastrelsudo apt-get install openssh-server04:42
petersokHi...I am looking for help setting up wpa_supplicant in Ubuntu.  Is this a good place to look?04:42
wastrelyou'll be glad you did someday04:42
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jaks!code04:43
ubotuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida04:43
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[erisco] wastrel, CONNECTED!!04:43
wastrelnow send text04:43
glickanyone try songbird?04:43
wastrelthis is literally how the telnet protocol works04:43
wastreltype in some text and the server receives it and responds04:43
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wastrelin this case it will respond by closing the connection :] 04:44
wastrelbut it's cleartext04:44
wastreljust like pop and ftp and all that other juicy goodness04:44
wastrelso you can sniff it in another window and feel the love04:44
[erisco] wastrel, okay, as soon as I can CHMOD back over the scan results, it should have detected it04:44
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petersokis anyone able to help me get WPA working?04:45
trigg3rhi04:45
Flannel!tell petersok about wpa04:45
petersokthank you Flannel, but I have already been through that and am still having trouble04:46
Bensr20detwhat is the best way to use widgets?04:46
Flannelpetersok: then you'd be best served by asking a specific question04:46
wastrel[erisco] :  actually you could have a longer conversation by telnetting to a remote (internet) server running smtp or pop, which wouldn't immediately disconnect you04:46
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wastrelso you could have a longer conversation.  just don't send sensitive data04:46
[erisco] wastrel, well right now I am trying to find WHY I cannot CHMOD my files to 777!04:47
wastrelsudo chmod ?04:47
[erisco] they are staying only readable and writable to root04:47
RomanLogixAnyone know what kind of USB wifi works with a eMac/PPC running dapper? My lucent adapter never gets picked up04:47
[erisco] tried that. I'm puzzled now04:47
wastrelcp them to your homedir04:47
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wastrelsudo cp.  then sudo chown them to yourself then chmod04:47
AfterDeathargh04:47
mlalkakaSince it doesn't support extents, does an ext3 filesystem ever need defragmenting?04:47
Flannel[erisco] : chances are you don't want to chmod them 777 anyway04:47
wastrelnot defrag04:47
trigg3rcan i ask an IP tracking question? using openVPN on ubuntu 6.06 lts04:48
petersokok: I would like to get WPA working on Dapper WITHOUT the network-manager.  I am following the instruction on the wiki for getting wpa_supplicant working, but once I have my configuration file set up and test the connection, wpa_supplicant seems to be unable to establish a wireless connection.  it returns: Trying to associate with 00:40:10:10:00:03 (SSID='kpnet' freq=0 MHz)04:48
petersokioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported04:48
petersokioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported04:48
petersokioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported04:48
petersokioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported04:48
LoRezWarning: `petersok' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.04:48
petersokAuthentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out.04:48
AfterDeathany staffers here?04:48
Flannelpetersok: don't paste here.  use pastebin04:48
[erisco] wastrel, weird, but the logs are not in any sort of text format. not sure how to open them anways *shrug*04:48
Flannel!paste04:48
AfterDeathiPalazGOLD is advertising on join04:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:48
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wastrelheh i don't know ethereal so :]   if they're binary there must be a viewer04:48
eXistenZ!schedule04:48
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:48
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eXistenZerm, soon edgy will be out04:49
npodgesthursday is RC104:49
npodgesa week later is final04:49
[erisco] I am downloading something lol, the log is crammed04:50
npodgeswhee!04:50
[erisco] what protocol does telnet use?04:50
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YkstortiPalazGOLD PMed me the following shortly after I joined this channel: " Hello! I am selling Sony Vaio AR190G Notebooks (Core Duo T2500 2 GHz /17" /2GB DDR2 /200 GB HDD @ 7200 rpm /256MB GDDR SDRam / 17" WUXGA TFT Active Matrix (1920 x 1200)/DVD+-RW- / Blu-Ray disc), brand new for 520 USD or 480 euros, if interested send me an e-mail or msg now inti3m@yahoo.com , Thank You"04:50
YkstortWould this be considered spam of some kind?04:50
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AfterDeathyes04:50
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AfterDeathi've been complaining about that04:50
mrioi've got a question about xfce...anyone?04:50
AfterDeathnoone is doing anything about it so far though04:50
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Ykstortwhy hasn't it been glined yet >:|04:50
FlannelYkstort, AfterDeath, ask in #ubuntu-ops they'll hear you04:50
wastreltelnet protocol04:51
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[erisco] wastrel, SSLv2?04:51
kmumrio, might want to check out #xubuntu04:51
[erisco] I got something that says "Client Hello"04:51
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[erisco] well, I said Hello lol, maybe it?04:51
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wastrelnot likely :] 04:52
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mriowhere can i get help for xfce on ubuntu?04:52
wastrel#xubuntu mrio04:52
ivxhey is there a way to get entire skins for ubuntu that change that loading graphic and everything?04:52
mriocool thanks04:52
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wastrelivx:  afaik it's manual to change each little bit04:52
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wastrelivx: bootsplash, gdm, gnome splash, gnome themes04:53
jaksivx: there's like 4 parts to change. gdm, the loading graphic, window themes, and icons..04:53
eclipse75does the ubuntu cd have a partition manager on it? need to resize a partition04:53
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[erisco] wastrel, I am not sure what I am supposed to be seeing :(04:53
wastreleclipse75:  i think it comes with gparted  not sure04:53
jaksyeah, or that04:53
ivxwastrel: how can you change that loading graphic so it isn't brown. do i just have to find it and replace it04:53
eclipse75thanks wastrel =)04:53
[erisco] wastrel, cannot see anything other than UDP and TCP04:53
wastrel[erisco] :  dunno, can you search for the string you entered?04:53
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wastrel[erisco] :  oic   it's TCP04:54
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wastreltelnet would use Tcp04:54
ivxjaks how do you change that loading graphic after you log on04:54
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wastrelivx:  you need to change the background of your gnome desktop (even if you have a background image)  and also follow the gnomesplash tutorial.  i forget how to do it.04:55
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ivxwastrel alright i'll play with it04:55
ivxthanks04:55
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[erisco] wastrel, there are only two TCP packets during the short scan I ran... but the information returned is alien to me04:55
[erisco] wastrel, what are the things I am looking for to get a password, or to get my "Hello" message?04:56
wastrel[erisco] :  no idea, i've never used ethereal04:56
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[erisco] wastrel, used anything before?04:56
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jaksivx, i'm pretty sure its just a png in ~/.gnome2 somewhere..04:56
wastrel[erisco] :  to sniff packets?  no :] 04:56
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variant[erisco] : what you trying to do exactly?04:57
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ivxjaks alright i think i can swing something04:57
ivxthanks04:57
RomanLogixwhere would be the best place to check for PPC/Dapper support?04:57
asymmetrysup yall?04:57
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[erisco] variant, pingswept said telnet sends out the password (of whatever it may be) without encryption04:57
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wastrelit's really true :] 04:57
pingswept[erisco]  I think this is true.04:58
ppj1010anyone know if theres a way to control fan speed software wise (not bios)04:58
[erisco] variant, he said it should show up by scanning the packets going through the network04:58
wastrelthey didn't have encryption in the olden days of the intarweb04:58
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[erisco] variant, but, I cannot find any relevant information04:58
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AfterDea1hfinally04:58
AfterDea1hthankyou whoever klined ipalazgold04:58
pingswept[erisco]  I disappeared briefly. Did you get telnetd working?04:58
wastrelpingswept:  i had him telnet to the ssh port04:58
[erisco] pingswept, uh, no04:58
foureight84can someone please tell me what the cpan pakage name for the Gtk2 module?04:59
variant[erisco] : telnet is not encrypted.. i beleive it may well send the password in the clear too.. not 100% on that though. i do know that telnet doesnt support any encryption04:59
wastrel[erisco] :  try telneting to a remote host.04:59
asymmetryvariant, telnet does send the password in the clear04:59
pingswept[erisco]  Or find a server to telnet to?04:59
pingsweptYes.04:59
Flannel[erisco] , variant, yes.  completely plaintext04:59
variant[erisco] : there you go04:59
[erisco] pingswept, I don't have a server that I can think of to telnet to... hmm04:59
[erisco] pingswept... what about our router?04:59
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Mad3Max3I have a question for all u Ubuntu installer experts!04:59
foureight84can someone please tell me what the cpan pakage name for the Gtk2 module?05:00
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asymmetryMad3Max3, maybe i can help05:00
variant[erisco] : telnet to your own ip (not localhost) it will go out and back in05:00
[erisco] variant I'll try05:00
wastrelah05:00
wastrelthat may be the prob.05:00
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variant[erisco] : you need to be running a telnetd05:00
wastrelhe can't get telnetd running, he's using the ssh port.05:00
[erisco] variant, even when telneting into the SSH port?05:00
wastrelshould be sufficient for this purpose.05:00
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wastreltelnet your.ip 2205:00
pingsweptwastrel: Ah, can you do that?05:00
variant[erisco] : why are you telnetting to the ssh port?05:01
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wastrelpingswept:  yes.05:01
pingsweptwastrel: That would be brilliant.05:01
Mad3Max3asymmetry, good! well the problem is that the boot disk won't boot my new computer.. it's an AMD64 system. it stalls at mount disk or something05:01
wastrelvariant:  he just wants to see if he can see the packets in ethereal05:01
[erisco] variant, to get the password lol05:01
pingsweptI have to try that.05:01
wastrelit doesn't work.05:01
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variantit wont work like that05:01
asymmetryMad3Max3, what's the architecture and type of the image you downloaded?05:01
variantyou need to be running telnetd05:01
variantit wont even attempt to authenticate otherwise05:01
kmuhere we go again05:01
wastrelvariant:  he'll still be sending the packets to the ssh server05:01
asymmetryMad3Max3, I think that the x86 will work on an amd64, but I'm just covering all bases.05:01
variantwastrel: it wont even attempt to authenticate otherwise05:02
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Mad3Max3asymmetry , I downloaded the Dapper.. 6.06.1 AMD64 bit05:02
wastrelvariant:  you'll get a socket connection and send data packets to the server05:02
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variantwastrel: it will say "are you a telnet server?" "no" "ok, i wont send the password then"05:02
wastrelthe server will barf on them but the packets will be sent.05:02
jaksgooooood night05:02
asymmetryMad3Max3, okay, when you boot, and it just sits there at mounting disk, try paging over to console 1 or 2, and see if it gives an error message.05:02
eXistenZWhat is the safest way to get vim7?05:02
wastrelvariant:  ok you get telnetd working for him :] 05:02
eXistenZcompile from source?05:03
Mad3Max3asymmetry, I tried an old Knoppix livecd and that booted prefectly. it is a i386 knoppix version thou05:03
wastreleXistenZ:  i would guess so05:03
Homeranyone know a good rythmbox radio station I can listen to05:03
variantwastrel: has he installed it?05:03
asymmetryMad3Max3, like I said, page over to console 1 or 2, and see if it gives a message.05:03
[erisco] variant, yes please :D I was not able to find ANY packets during the scan that had both a source and destination of my IP05:03
wastrelvariant:  yes, but it won't run05:03
variantwastrel: why no?05:03
variantwastrel: why not?05:03
Mad3Max3ok! will.. do.. one sec.. have the new comp connected to the same screen..05:03
asymmetry[erisco] , why would you see any packets? it's not like the loopback device uses a scannable interface.05:04
pingswept[erisco]  You should be able to capture IRC traffic (I just tried it and got jaks "gooooood night" message.)05:04
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[erisco] pingswept, I have been seeing IRC stuff popping up05:04
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pingswept[erisco]  Try telnetting to your gateway, and you should see at least one packet go out.05:04
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eXistenZwastrel, what about the aap stuff?05:05
wastreli dunno from aap.05:05
variant[erisco] : yeah, you got a router? you can normally telnet onto them05:05
Mad3Max3asymmetry - I don't have to do anything special since I have SATA drives do I.. like when u install XP u have to create disks and stuff05:05
[erisco] yay I can see the IRC chat messages, cool :d05:05
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asymmetryMad3Max3, nope. Running on SATA drives right now.05:05
[erisco] variant, yes I do. I just don't know the password for it05:05
[erisco] variant, and there is a telnet server with it I do believe05:05
pingswept[ericsco]  Try loading a webpage. You'll be able to follow the HTTP traffic.05:06
jkku3ok guys, i have question, my friend's amarok is not playing his mp3 files when he selects them to be played, anybody know what's wrong?05:06
asymmetryMad3Max3, it'll pick them up as SCSI drives. If you're having that much of a problem, use a different installer image, like the alternate or the DVD image.05:06
variant[erisco] : send the wrong password to your router then, it wont matter.. you should still see it in there05:06
[erisco] variant, okay maybe I am wrong. Might have an SSH server05:06
wastreleXistenZ:  edgy has vim 705:06
[erisco] variant, no telnet server on it :(05:06
wastrelyou might try a backport (?)  or upgrade.....05:06
Mad3Max3asymmetry , how do I page over to console?05:06
variant[erisco] : nmap it (nmap -A -vv05:06
wastrel[erisco] :  telnet google.com 8005:06
variant[erisco] : nmap it (nmap -A -vv IP05:06
wastrelthen do whatever you want.05:06
[erisco] variant, it is all SSH, as it is accessed VIA outside world so05:06
asymmetryMad3Max3, CTRL-ALT-F1/F2/etc.05:06
[erisco] variant, what is nmap it (nmap -A -vv IP ?05:07
wastrelwhy don't we just have you read the telnet RFC :] 05:07
variant[erisco] : run nmap -A -vv yourroutersip05:07
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wastrelyou can see the spec and not have to do this empirical stuff05:07
variant[erisco] : apt-get install nmap first05:07
variant[erisco] : its a port scanner05:08
[erisco] variant okay lol05:08
Mad3Max3asymmetry, it gets stuck at the booting the kernel,05:08
[erisco] variant, I was right, only SSH on it05:08
asymmetryMad3Max3, by 'gets stuck', what do you mean?05:08
asymmetryMad3Max3, kernel panic, an error message, nothing at all? Is the hard drive still active?05:09
[erisco] only SSH on this computer working too05:09
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variant[erisco] : whats wrong iwth telnet? why cant you start it?05:09
variant[erisco] : apt-get install telnetd05:09
variant[erisco] : /etc/init.d/telnetd start05:09
[erisco] variant, well I cannot even remember where I was with starting it. I do have it installed05:09
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[erisco] variant, "bash: /etc/init.d/telnetd: No such file or directory"05:10
asymmetryWhy would you install telnetd?05:10
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variant[erisco] : ok, whatever the init.d script is called05:10
avagantis there an alsa command for that so i don't have to keep typing aplay into a terminal?05:10
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variant[erisco] : type /etc/init.d/tel and press the tab key05:10
asymmetryWhy are you trying to install telnetd? All he needs is the client.05:10
variantavagant: why do you keep typing aplay into the terminal?05:10
asymmetryUnless I'm mistaking this for something else.05:10
[erisco] variant, you mean a wildcard?05:10
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[erisco] variant, still no file or directory05:11
variantasymmetry: your mistaking this for somthing else05:11
asymmetryGotcha.05:11
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avagantcause i dont know if it's starting itself or if esd is.05:11
ajchaceanyone have a link regarding migration from Debian to Ubuntu?05:11
avagantGuys I have to tell you, this whole alsa thing is really making me want to stray back to Windows.05:11
[erisco] variant, I physically looked, no telnet directory05:11
mrioanybody know why i can only see 3 selections in the dropdown for my screen resolution? i have a whole slew of them in my xorg.conf05:11
variant[erisco] : avagant what is the probelm exactly?05:11
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Mad3Max3asymmetry, this is the error messages.. "190.241885 .. HdC : Ide_intr : huh? expected null handler on exit..05:11
Mad3Max3asymmetry, and there are more like that one..05:12
variantavagant: what is the probelm exactly?05:12
avagantvariant: The problem is just the hassle of it all, it's so much work to get it done.05:12
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variantavagant: to get what done?05:12
asymmetryMad3Max3, what drive is hooked up to secondary IDE master?05:12
Mad3Max3asymmetry, and on Buffer, I/o error on device hdc05:12
avagantvariant: If I stop esd it stops all sounds, if i do aplay it does something else. I don't know what else I have to do.05:12
avagantSound works, but only when it decides to.05:12
variantavagant: get rid of esd, its broken and will be dropped sooner rather than later05:13
avagantI mean is there a linux distro that doesnt' have sound issues?05:13
variantavagant: i have never had a sound issue with this sound card05:13
[erisco] well goodnight all, I have an early morning05:13
asymmetryavagant, yes. Ubuntu. I'm running it right now with no sound issues.05:13
variant[erisco] : cya05:13
Mad3Max3asymmetry, hmm.. only have 1 sata and one DVD.. the dvd on the IDE05:13
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pingswept[ericsco]  Rock.05:13
asymmetryMad3Max3, where on the IDE?05:13
asymmetryMad3Max3, what channel, what position?05:13
Mad3Max3let me check05:14
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avagantWell apparently my soundcard is supported and yada yada, it's not that I have terrible sound issues it's just so much has to be done to ensure it works semi correctly.05:14
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variantavagant: how about just telling us what the problem is with specifics instead of general "this sucks"05:14
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avagantAlright alright, esd is always on. I turn esd off sound goes bye bye, I have all the alsa related packages yada yada.05:15
avagantI don't know if alsa just runs in the background or what.05:15
variantwhat does yada yada mean?05:15
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Mad3Max3asymmetry, on IDE channel 1 Master I have the DVD .. and on the IDE channel 2 Master the Sata Harddrive05:15
ajchacemrio: are they defined in the "Screen" section?05:15
avagantI have all the alsa packages that I should need, and yet sound is still squirrely. It works, but only if I specify I'm using alsa and not esd.05:16
JimmyDTHey all, i'm having a problem mounting any sort of CD or Floppy05:16
asymmetryMad3Max3, that's a contradiction in terms. SATA drives don't go on IDE channels.05:16
Mad3Max3asymmetry, I habe channels from 0 to 5..05:16
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variantlol05:16
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avagantflash is way out of wack with anything, xmms hangs when i'm playing anything alsa related.05:16
variantavagant: you american?05:16
avagantIt's a whole lot of work.05:16
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asymmetryMad3Max3, SATA drives do not go on IDE channels. Period.05:16
avagantI sure am.05:16
Mad3Max3asymmetry, thats what it says in the Bios05:16
mrioajchace yep, for 6 different depths05:16
asymmetryMad3Max3, Great for your BIOS.05:17
mrioajchace: yep, for 6 different depths05:17
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wastreli have a creative zen micro05:17
stlbadgerhello05:17
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asymmetryMad3Max3, how many SATA ports do you have on your motherboard?05:17
ajchacemrio: that's interesting....05:17
O2hello05:17
avagantlike right now i have no esd running at all, but if i load up firefox or anything no sound will play, i have it specifically set for alsa.05:17
virtual-stargazeavagant: Try using MPlayer, for streaming, the mozilla-mplayer plugin works well.05:17
DigitalNinjaCan you do an install of Ubuntu on a system with 44 mb of RAM05:17
ajchacemrio: do you have double quotes around each resolution in "Screen"?05:17
variantavagant: is this dapper?05:17
O2how can I copy files like this:  *.mp305:18
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avagantvariant: It sure is.05:18
HomerDigitalNinja: try XUbuntu05:18
mrioajchace: yep05:18
variantO2: cp *.mp3 <location>05:18
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Homerand only use GTK applications05:18
JimmyDTcan anyone help me with ubuntu not wanting to mount anything?05:18
O2variant: thanks05:18
asymmetryJimmyDT, what do you mean by not wanting to?05:18
variantO2: or cp /path/to/*.mp3 <location>05:18
stlbadgerhello, i have ubuntu booting right next to me. problem is it is going wayyy slow and i want to  know when i can start. the pc formerly ran XP amd has a pentium 2 in it05:18
variantO2: yw05:18
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ianmacgregorJimmyDT: What command are you using?05:18
DigitalNinjaHomer: I was thinking about that but it's a live CD. I don't think 44 megs of ram is enough but I could give it a try. I was thinking of using the alternet CD05:19
ajchacemrio: is the config file you're editing in /etc/X11/?05:19
Mad3Max3asymmetry, 4 sata ports05:19
JimmyDTI'm trying to make a grub boot disk, but it won't mount any floppy, both through the GUI and commands05:19
mrioajchace: yes05:19
grayscalewhat is the apt-get package for SDL?05:19
variantstlbadger: if its the live cd, it is slow. once it is installed it will be significantly faster05:19
O2variant:  it says: cp: invalid option --05:19
asymmetryMad3Max3, so channel 0 and 1 are IDE, and 2 - 5 are SATA. Where's the DVD drive?05:19
ajchacemrio: check /var/log/Xorg.* log files for errors?05:19
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stlbadgershould it be sitting here for 2 hours doing nothing?05:19
avagantvariant: Your card works, but is flash messed up?05:19
Mad3Max3asymmetry, on 205:20
variantO2: when i type <location> i mean that you should write in there where you want to copy the files too, not litteraly write "<location>"05:20
variantavagant: nope, works fine05:20
asymmetryMad3Max3, is it a SATA DVD drive?05:20
ajchacemrio: could grep for 'EE' in Xorg.0.log05:20
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variantavagant: how did you install flash?05:20
O2variant:  I write:  cp *.mp3 /music/05:20
variantavagant: di dyou use automatix?05:20
Mad3Max3asymmetry, no.. IDE05:20
avagantno.05:20
JNeverMindare most ubuntu system logs timestamped?05:20
variantO2: that should be fine, if the mp3 files are in your current directory05:20
variantJNeverMind: yes05:20
asymmetryMad3Max3, dude, you're confusing the shit out of me, here.05:21
avagantsudo apt-get install flash-nonfree or whatever.05:21
JNeverMindwould it be possible to search logs for a specifictime?05:21
asymmetryMad3Max3, If 0 and 1 are IDE, and SATA is 2 through 5, how can an IDE DVD drive be on 2?05:21
ajchaceanyone have any links to info about migrating from Debian to Ubuntu?05:21
O2variant: but it didn't05:21
variantJNeverMind: yeah less /logfile | grep <time>05:21
mrioajchace: ok i'll try...just a sec05:21
JNeverMindright on05:21
variantO2: what directory are the mp3's in?05:21
John2583hald is causing my system to hang on boot. how can I remove the hardware abstraction layer daemon from the init.d startup scripts? I don't see it under /etc/init.d05:21
Mad3Max3asymmetry, your right.. it05:21
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Mad3Max3asymmetry, its on 105:22
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asymmetryMad3Max3, thank you. That means that your CD is loaded on /dev/hdc, and it's screwing up. Try redownloading and reburning the image onto a new disc.05:22
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Mad3Max3asymmetry, got a little cunfused aswell over the term IDE on SATA.. thought SATA was SATA and IDE was IDE.. well05:22
mrioajchace: ok, the only errors are xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom05:23
asymmetryMad3Max3, They are. IDE = 40 pin. SATA = not.05:23
ajchacemrio: I don't think that's significant05:23
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Mad3Max3asymmetry, so hdc is the bootdisk?05:24
variantO2: cp /path/to/the/mp3files/*.mp3 /music/05:24
asymmetryMad3Max3, yes. HDC = IDE1 master.05:24
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JbirkHello05:24
ianmacgregorhi05:24
ajchacemrio: do you have HorizSync and VertRefresh set in xorg.conf?05:24
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JbirkI need a wifi card05:25
mrioajchace: yes05:25
Jbirkone that is compatible05:25
Jbirkhelp05:25
JimmyDTasymmetry: the error its giving me (for floppy) is "mount point /media/floppy does not exist"05:25
variantJbirk: i heard atheros chips were very compatible. but dont take my word for it05:25
krazykitJbirk: ralink and atheros based are good05:25
ianmacgregorJbirk: Might have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport05:25
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Mad3Max3asymmetry, ok! when it comes to Linux im a totally noob.. all the mount and stuff are confusing for me!05:25
JbirkI have an RT6105:25
avagantvariant: Is that the wrong way?05:25
ajchacemrio: and the settings for HorizSync and VertRefresh support the resolutions you're trying to use?05:25
Jbirkbut it won't work05:25
variantkrazykit: i have had some probelms with ralink, so probably atheros are best05:25
mrioajchace: um, dunno05:26
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asymmetryJimmyDT, try this: sudo mkdir /media/floppy05:26
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variantavagant: is what the wrong way?05:26
asymmetryJimmyDT, then retry the mount instruction.05:26
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mrioajchace how can i tell?05:26
ajchacemrio: would be a good thing to check on :-)05:26
krazykitvariant: i've never had issues with ralink.  some of the better drivers recently.  rt2500 based was wicked good.05:26
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avagantsudo apt-get install nonfree flash?05:26
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krazykitmuch better with the devicescape stack05:26
ajchacemrio: do you have a manual for your monitor?05:26
JimmyDTnope, same error appears05:26
variantkrazykit: yeah, i only had a rt2750 model05:26
JbirkI can't find anything with rt250005:26
ianmacgregoravagant: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree05:26
JbirkI wish I could05:26
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asymmetryJbirk, WMP54G.05:26
mrioajchace: no...it's an old laptop05:26
variantJbirk: there are a million and one05:26
avagantianmacgregor: Yah.05:26
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JbirkI have a WMP54G Lnksys05:26
asymmetryThat's rt2500 based.05:27
JbirkBut, it is RT6105:27
darnell_how safe is it to upgrade to edgy right now?05:27
JbirkVersion 4.105:27
asymmetryNo, it isn't.05:27
ajchacemrio: those might be the only resolutions supported then05:27
JbirkYes, it is05:27
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avagantMy flash is out of sync with sound like crazy.05:27
krazykitdarnell_: #ubuntu+105:27
JbirkIt is version 4.105:27
darnell_k05:27
Mad3Max3asymmetry, but I had a suspicion on that the CD was the factor messing up the boot.. so I started downloading the ISO again.. both the i386 and the AMD64 one05:27
krazykitavagant: known problem.  flash sucks.05:27
asymmetryDude. No. It isn't. I'm using that EXACT same card RIGHT NOW.05:27
JbirkI need version 405:27
avagantAnd for some reason some sites don't work at all.05:27
variantavagant: try the gpl flash player..05:27
mrioajchace: could i bump up those ranges and give it a try? (:05:27
avagantgpl?05:27
Jbirkokay05:27
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krazykitasymmetry: keep in mind that there are multiple unmarked revisions to cards ;-)05:27
ajchacemrio: should be able to google the manufacturer's site for an owner's manual05:27
ajchacemrio: wouldn't recommend it05:27
variantavagant: gnash. i think the browser plugin is buggy right now but the standalone player works well05:27
asymmetrykrazykit, that's very true.05:27
Jbirkso If I put my Linksys WMP54G in my computer, it will just pick it up?05:27
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asymmetryJbirk, no, but there are a ton and a half short tutorials on how to get it working. It was easy.05:28
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julianwhere does everyone work? curious05:28
avagantcan i sudo apt-get install that one? Haha05:28
ajchacemrio: very possible to fry things (screen, videocard, etc) by playing with timings05:28
variantjulian: a datacenter05:28
krazykitjulian: biology TA05:28
asymmetryjulian, US Air Force, computer programmer.05:28
wastrel<3 biology05:28
variantjulian: a datacenter, in dublin, ireland05:28
juliancool05:28
Jbirkhow do I get the RT61 working05:28
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Jbirkor the netgear wg311v3 working?05:29
asymmetryvariant, just ordered my fiancee's wedding ring from a store in Dublin.05:29
julianso just using linux for the heck of it?05:29
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iloivarI think I had an r61t that I could only get working with ndiswrapper05:29
variantasymmetry: cool, it may sound romantic but dublin is a hell hole, I call it the anus of ireland05:29
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ajchacejulian: know anyone working for Syngenta's tech support in Dublin?05:29
asymmetryvariant, that might be, but the ring looks nice.05:29
julianha05:29
variantjulian: i use it for work, most of our customers are using it05:29
variantasymmetry: hehe :)05:29
rexweird qroblem here...  my letter between o and r doesn't work.05:29
krazykitjulian: no, because i like it.  i like the way it works.  i like the command line.  i like the freedom, i hate windows.  i also use OSX, even though it's entirely unfree05:29
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avagantAnd then there's some sites that just don't work at all, and that's fun.05:30
Mad3Max3asymmetry, which dist shall I use.. i386 or the AMD64.. is there any major performance diffrence .. will the 32 bits software work in the 64bit?05:30
asymmetrykrazykit, command line ftw05:30
avagantI know they are flash sites, but it's like BAM WHATS GOING ON05:30
julianyea i also just like to figure out my problems and fixing it05:30
asymmetryMad3Max3, if you have a 64-bit proc, use a 64-bit distro.05:30
ianmacgregorjulian: I use Linux because I can dl it for free, install it on a million machines for free and it taught me a lot about computers.05:30
variantavagant: use windows or macosx then05:30
julianwhat linux do ur customer use variant05:30
avagantvariant: nice. haha05:30
JbirkCan you give me a link to a wireless card from newegg?05:30
Jbirkone that will work out of the box with dapper05:30
JbirkI have some $$$05:30
Jbirkbut I don't really want to do much to configure it05:30
variantjulian: many different but mostly redhat unfortunatly05:30
Mad3Max3asymmetry, I must agrea on the Dublin statement u just made!05:30
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wastrelpcmcia card?  the cisco ones are nice05:30
julianu dont like redhat?05:31
rexso, if I tye the word eole, you can't read it05:31
julianslow in my opinion05:31
youserhey is it possible to get my printer inmy panel?05:31
avagantI wish os x would work on my computer, then I'd be complete.05:31
rexbecause the  is missing05:31
variantjulian: not particularly. really poxy setup and annoying to use05:31
mrioajchace: does this site tell you anything? http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Solo_Series/P9500/P950002.shtml05:31
lampshadeI use linux because I noticed that one day that I was using vim, gaim, firefox, etc and that all of those programs were OS.  So then I thought, "Why not just make the whole OS that way?"  and I put ubuntu on my laptop as soon as files were backed up.05:31
JimmyDTsweet, think I got floppy working05:31
ajchacewastel: have to update firmware or they are less than perfectly stable05:31
avagantYou can't install os x on a windows computer though right?05:31
julianI c05:31
variantavagant: i wouldnt konw05:31
julianhas anyone here used Parsix05:31
variantavagant: know*05:31
avagantI've used Mac before, and didn't really like.05:31
Mad3Max3asymmetry, but the 32 but version will work aswell.. thouht I read someting about Wine wouldn't work in the 64 bit version05:31
ianmacgregoryouser: I don't think it'll fit, the panel's kinda narrow and you don't want ink running all over the place.05:31
asymmetryMad3Max3, then go for it.05:32
youserlol i think ubuntu agrees with you05:32
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ianmacgregorhehe05:32
JbirkHelp05:32
youserit wont seemto go up there05:32
JbirkI need a wireless card05:32
avagantThen again I had 10.2.8 which is like light years behind anything else.05:32
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JbirkLet me get this straight, if I put an RT2500 Wireless card into my computer, it will just work?05:32
avagantAnd they apparently like to make programs that only install on the newer os's and not the older ones.05:32
asymmetryJbirk, No.05:32
ajchacemrio: not for timings05:32
variantJbirk: correct, that is the plan anyway05:32
John2583is there anyway to change startup services manually, without using something like bum?05:32
variantasymmetry: some will05:32
rexI have tried two different keyboards in both the usb and qs/2 qorts, but no luck05:32
wastrelajchace:  the last one i used is 802.11b ---  pretty ancient, but it was reliable and easy to configure.  nowadays i have built-in...05:32
ajchacemrio: sometimes it's hard to find that kind of info05:32
julianso I tried out the Parsix distro. its very similar to ubuntu. But its just faster, i mean alot faster05:32
krazykitJbirk: it should, yes.05:32
ajchacemrio: hang on a sec05:33
Mad3Max3asymmetry, are u running a 64bit cpu and the 64bit dist?05:33
JbirkSo Ubuntu should detect it?05:33
Jbirkand then let me configure it?05:33
variantJbirk: yes it will05:33
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youserno possible way of printer getting on panel?05:33
avagantParsix?05:33
asymmetryMad3Max3, AMD X2 4800+ on AMD64 Dapper.05:33
q83hey, could someone give me a hand with a problem I'm having with login window?05:33
mneptonJbirk: what chipset does that card use?05:33
avagant!parsix05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about parsix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
JbirkThe card I have is RT6105:33
julianya, its an Iran distro, but i just switched the lang05:33
variantJbirk: you might have a harder time setting up wpa etc but thats annother thing :)05:33
avagantAh.05:33
JbirkIT is WMP54G Linksys05:33
ajchacemrio: these are for 1024x768 at 70hz05:33
JbirkVersion 4.105:33
avagantDoes it have sound issues? Haha05:33
rexI have a keyboard malfunction, folks05:33
Mad3Max3asymmetry, does Mythtv work on the 64 bit dist? .. it's a HTPC system that I've built05:33
ajchacemrio: HorizSync 31.5 - 57.0 VertRefresh     50-9005:34
asymmetryMad3Max3, No clue on that one.05:34
variantMad3Max3: yeah it does05:34
julianis ntfs write gona be supported in edgy?05:34
Mad3Max3variant! good! :)05:34
mrioajchace: where'd you find that?05:34
asymmetryjulian, NTFS write is supported in Dapper.05:34
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juliansorry, i meant out of box05:34
ajchacemrio: just what I have in my config05:34
asymmetryIt does out of box.05:34
julianits such a pain to get it installed.05:34
asymmetryjulian, and anything running a kernel after 2.6.-something.05:35
npodgescan you install programs on the live cd?05:35
krazykitnpodges: no05:35
asymmetryI know it's stable on the installed kernel.05:35
mrioajchace: mmk, i'm running at 1024x768, so i guess i'll just stick with that05:35
Mad3Max3That turning 3D desktop that u can see in some of the vids in ubuntus site.. what is that called05:35
variantnpodges: yes05:35
mrioajchace: thanks for your help tho05:35
ajchacemrio: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree86-Video-Timings-HOWTO/index.html05:35
variantnpodges: but thats limmited by how much ram you have05:35
krazykitMad3Max3: beryl/compiz05:35
julianxgl05:35
ajchacemrio: g2g05:35
variantkrazykit: you can05:35
ajchacemrio: later05:35
npodgesvariant: i want to compile a package, that for one reason or another, i can't compile now.05:35
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npodgesvariant: i want to boot into the live cd, and checkinstall it into a package05:36
julianMad3, its called compiz/xgl05:36
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variantnpodges: fair enough, if you have enough ram or swap space activated youcan install build-essential and compile away05:36
npodgesand save it, then install it here05:36
variantnpodges: cool, do it in a chroot05:36
Mad3Max3Krazykit : ok! that apps is some of the coolest desktops mods!05:36
rexwould there be a software reason for every key excet one working on a keyboard?05:36
variantnpodges: mount your hard disks, mount proc, chroot and install05:36
npodgesi think i screwed up the links to my kernel headers or something...05:37
ianmacgregorrex: Sounds like a bad keyboard05:37
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variantrex: if its a special key like the fn key on laptops05:37
q83when I start Login Screen it starts for a second and dies :| anyone know how to fix this?05:37
npodgesbecause i cant compile somehting that should compile very simply05:37
rexno, tried two kbds05:37
variantnpodges: apt-get install the knerle headers again05:37
rexit's a letter05:37
npodgesdoes that reset the symbolic links?05:37
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variantnpodges: you shouldnt nee dthe linux-headers fo rmost compiles05:37
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lampshadeMad3Max3: you will want to hit up ubuntu-xgl for support.  They are good people.  Follow the links at the top for tutorials and then if you have problems hit up the room there for help05:37
ianmacgregorq83: Define "dies", does it give you any errors?05:37
rexthe one between o and r05:37
npodgesit's for the lirc kernel module05:37
variantnpodges: if you mean /usr/src/linux then no it dont05:37
variantnpodges: ah05:37
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krazykitMad3Max3: meh.  i think it's irritating and useless.  but i like lightweight apps anyway.05:38
lampshadenpodges: ahhh, doing a mythtv install?05:38
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Mad3Max3Lampshade! ok.. thank you05:38
asymmetryHow does one use the neat XGL/compiz stuff?05:38
q83Dies as in it says "starting admin app" and then disappears completely05:38
npodgesyes.05:38
SuperMiguelwhat is the difference between xen and vmware?05:38
avagantthat gpl can you sudo apt-get install that?05:38
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variantnpodges: use uname -a to find your kernel version and install the corresponding header05:38
npodgesi got ivtv to compile just fine, but i used someone else's HOWTO that had me change a couple symbolic links05:38
npodgesfor linux05:38
npodgesand build05:38
variantavagant: gnash05:38
avagantyah gnash.05:38
ianmacgregorq83: Ok, that isn't the login screen, that sounds like you are starting gui that needs root pivs05:38
npodgesi have the headers installed though.05:39
krazykitubotu: tell asymmetry about xgl05:39
q83I meant Login Window as in the app that changes your login screen.05:39
rexoddly enough, I bought a new keyboard when other letters malfunctioned05:39
Mad3Max3saw something about ppl playing WoW on linux.. is there a emulator that works for that?05:39
rexthey all work now, but one other doesn't05:39
q83I've searched around the ubuntu forums, lots of people have had this problem but I haven't found a solution that works for me.05:39
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npodgesMad3Max3: it works in wine, with some tinkering, or ootb with the new crossover beta for linux05:39
avagantootb?!?! so confused.05:40
npodgesMad3Max3: which is free for a 60 day trial, and works real well05:40
ianmacgregorq83: Run this command from a term and see if it returns any errors:  gksu gdmsetup05:40
npodgesout of the box05:40
npodgessry05:40
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rexso, if it's not the keyboard, what else could it be?>05:40
Mad3Max3npodges.. cool.. gonna look sweet doing MC on a 42 inch screen! :D05:40
SuperMiguelwhat is the difference between xen and vmware?05:40
q83It says failed to connect to socket, sleep 1 second and retry, retries 5 times and then stops.05:40
thejoeandchipi think xen is open source05:41
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q83also at the end: "Could not access GDM configuration file."05:41
lampshadeMad3Max3: yeah I know someone who plays it only on linux--he says it is actually faster than windows because of the way linux did something differently... I don't know exactly but it sounded cool.05:41
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ianmacgregorq83: Ok, now you are further along in solving this problem than you were. Try posting *that* info/error on the forums, it may help someone fix the issue.05:41
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q83alright, I'll give it a shot. thanks.05:42
ianmacgregorYou're welcome :)05:42
digivorewhen was dapper released?05:42
Mad3Max3Lampshade! Yeah.. I heard that too.. but it wouldn't surprise me if it did go faster on Linux. even trough a windows emulator! :D05:42
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krazykitdigivore: june, iirc05:42
krazykitMad3Max3: urk!  WINE Is Not an Emulator!05:42
ianmacgregordigivore: 6.06 (month.year) so June 200605:42
lampshadeMad3Max3: well that's one of the reasons, usually it goes through WINE which isn't an emulator--it is people actually reverse engineering the Windows API to make things work05:42
wastrelnot really though05:42
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wastreldapper was released late wasn't it05:43
krazykitianmacgregor: year.month, innit.05:43
ianmacgregordigivore: Sorry, i meant (year)month)05:43
ianmacgregorkrazykit: Yeah05:43
KeyseirWill anybody here admit to being experienced with VMware?05:43
digivoreianmacgregor,  cool thanks05:43
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ianmacgregorYou're welcome :)05:43
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krazykitKeyseir: experienced enough to have installed it a few times on various machines05:43
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Mad3Max3lampshade.. even better then..05:44
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SuperMiguelKeyseir: what do you need05:44
frantichey guys, has Serpentine broke recently for anyone else?05:44
JNeverMindwhere can i find the log for the ntp in ubuntu server ?05:44
rexno, but my letter between o an d r doesn't work05:44
KeyseirVMWare people: I have a Windows 2000 installation that seems to have gotten buggy. I forgot the installation process for "hacking" vmware tools into an installation, so I don't want to do it all over again. Is it possible to format a drive within my virtual windows machine?05:45
franticP or Q?05:45
franticor tyui05:45
rexnot q05:45
sethkJNeverMind, I believe the messages go into one of the system logs, not a separate log05:45
rexlmnoqrst05:45
rexsee?05:45
JNeverMindisee05:45
rexand it's not the kbd05:45
rextried two05:46
rexusb andqs/205:46
krazykitKeyseir: erm.  you could put the windows CD in and boot from that, formatting that way.  i don't think vmware will format natively05:46
sethkJNeverMind, I checked, they end up in syslog, which is /var/log/syslog05:46
Mad3Max3but wine doesn't work on the 64bit dist ?05:46
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Keyseirkrazykit: Put the virtual windows CD in.. hadn't thought of that, heh05:46
JNeverMindthank you05:46
Mad3Max3something about Biarch05:46
Mad3Max3or am I wrong?05:46
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Keyseirkrazykit: Trying that now..05:47
krazykitMad3Max3: it's a pain to do.  needs lots of 32-bit compat libs.05:47
variantMad3Max3: yes it does05:47
variantMad3Max3: as krazykit says though05:47
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variantMad3Max3: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit05:47
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krazykitMad3Max3: at this point in computing, 64 bit is not worth it.  maybe in a year or so, but not now.  but that's just my opinion05:48
ajchaceat the risk of being redundant: anyone have any info on migrating from Debian to Ubuntu ? :-)05:48
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npodgesits gonna be more than a year or so, imo05:48
krazykitajchace: afaik, there's currently no supported path.05:48
rexso, I take it from the silence on the subject that I've exceeded this channel's hel caabilities05:48
ajchacekrazykit: as in, "we won't hold your hand", or as in "it might work, you break it, you fix it"?05:49
variantkrazykit: for heavy database loads it can perform much better05:49
krazykitrex: or we don't know your keymap.  i have several letters between them05:49
Lurch21I'v been trying to copy ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz into /lib/firmware can anyone help me.05:49
variantkrazykit: but generaly not05:49
krazykitajchace: both, really.05:49
ajchacekrazykit: because im perfectly willing to break things :-)05:49
rexkeyma05:50
rexkeyma05:50
ajchacekrazykit: ok, thanks for the input05:50
rexachaderm05:50
sethkLurch21, I'm sure that's not what you are trying to do.  Tell his what you need to do.05:50
rexoele05:50
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ajchacekrazykit: think I'll atempt it, and see what happens05:50
rexa baby dog is a uy05:50
krazykitrex: so the p?05:50
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rexYes05:50
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krazykitrex: have a liveCD?  if so, pop it in.  if the p-key works, it's fixable.  if not, you're gonna want to buy a new keyboard05:51
rexI have a new kbd05:51
rexboth orts05:51
rexno hel05:51
ShakezulaHey I have two PPC machines. An iMac with a broken cdrom drive and a Blue and White G3 with a working CDROM drive if I were to take the hard disk out of the iMac and put it in the G3, install Ubuntu, then put the hard disk back in the iMac can I expect it to work?05:51
krazykitrex: so multiple keyboards fail to print "p"?05:52
rexyes05:52
sethkShakezula, command line stuff, yes,   X stuff, no05:52
ajchacerex: wow, that's neat05:52
variantrex: that sounds so unlikley.. unless you were messing iwth the keymap settings05:52
ShakezulaThe Blue and White G3's hard disk ribbon cable is hdc, the iMac's I'm guessing is hdb.05:52
rexnot to my knowledge05:52
Shakezulasethk I can fix the X stuff it's the hard disk cables I'm worried about.05:52
sethkvariant, could be simply that the wrong keyboard map is in effect.05:52
krazykitrex: ah, now we're getting somewhere.  open a terminal and type xev.  put the cursor over the xev window and hit "p"  see if it spews any output05:52
variantrex: open a terminal and type xev05:52
variantrex: then press the p key05:53
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variantis there any output?05:53
rexno, US english 105 keys05:53
rexstandard05:53
sethkShakezula, if the disk designations are different, that's equally easy to fix, as long as you can boot a live cd and mount the file system.05:53
variantsethk: if you know of any keylayout that is identical to qwerty but doesnt have a p key?05:53
krazykitrex: not the question.  open xev and see if pressing "P" gives any output05:53
rexjust no letter lmnoqrst05:54
sethkvariant, I do know of a revelant old joke.  the punchline is "it's in my pants"05:54
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rexarg05:54
krazykitrex: did you open xev and try?  you're not answering the question.05:54
variantsethk: ants* ;)05:54
sethkvariant, as in "what happened to my P"05:54
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Ninja562Hello, I am using Hoary Hedgehog on an amd 64 and having a few problems with mozilla plugins, any suggestions?05:54
variantsethk: yeah hehe i go tit05:55
variantNinja562: upgrade to dapper05:55
Lurch21I am new at ubuntu i have been trying to get my wireless device activated. Following steps on a help page. I downloaded ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz firmware as told but i can get past this step of installing it.05:55
rexI think I have a mobo failure coming on05:55
sethkvariant, but seriously, the keyboard variant doesn't have to have p in a different location, it only needs to assign a different key code to  p.05:55
Ninja562Dapper heh, is the upgrade path reasonable (I am a feeb)05:55
variantsethk: im 100% sure there is no such keymap05:55
npodgesis "export GCC=4.0" the right way to set gcc to use version 4.0?05:55
Mad3Max3Anyone now if Mobitex works trough wine.. is a DOS software.. but does Wine rune DOS applications aswell?05:55
rexsorry05:56
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krazykitMad3Max3: you could use dosbox05:56
variantNinja562: just change hoary to dapper in sources.list and away you go05:56
Zeenuxdo you guys think installing Ubuntu on an external drive is a good idea? And is it safe (keep the internal HD nice and cozy, with no possibility of anything goig wrong?)05:56
variantNinja562: at least i think thats the way05:56
krazykitZeenux: it'll work as long as you install grub to the external drive and not your main drive05:56
variantZeenux: yeah its fine, will be slow though05:56
Ninja562I will give it a shot, Vielen Danke.05:56
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Mad3Max3Krazykit. ok.. thanks for the tip05:56
npodgesnice and cozy with what? windows?05:56
zenitLurch21: which help page are you following? I think you have to put the firmware in /lib/firmware, if I'm not entirely wrong05:56
ianmacgregorvariant: iirc, he needs to upgrade: hoary -> breezy, then breezy -> dapper05:57
rexI have no idea what it says ,but hitting that letter made it react05:57
variantianmacgregor: ok, sounds reasonable05:57
Lurch21That right05:57
Lurch21/lib/firmware05:57
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grayscalecan someone help me to install the SDL compiler?  I'm trying to find the apt-get packages for it but cant find any05:57
Zeenuxok, sweet05:57
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Lurch21I'm using a text book05:57
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Zeenuxlooks like ill be getting ubuntu on my laptop05:58
rex] KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x2e00001,05:58
rex    root 0x136, subw 0x0, time 1329891755, (848,948), root:(853,996),05:58
rex    state 0x10, keycode 33 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,05:58
rex    XLookupString gives 0 bytes:05:58
rex    XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:05:58
rex    XFilterEvent returns: False05:58
rexKeyRelease event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x2e00001,05:58
rex    root 0x136, subw 0x0, time 1329891891, (848,948), root:(853,996),05:58
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rex    state 0x10, keycode 33 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,05:58
rex    XLookupString gives 0 bytes:05:58
jookhi05:58
rex    XFilterEvent returns: False05:58
krazykitrex: don't spam the channel05:58
ianmacgregor!paste > rex05:58
rexi didn't05:58
krazykityou did.05:58
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Ninja562Variant: where is the sources.list?05:58
zenit/etc/apt/sources.list05:58
jookhi some ubuntu hacker?05:58
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krazykitrex: ok, so there'y no symbol for it.  this should not be a hard fix, as soon as i figure out the command ;-)05:59
franticupdate: serpentine won't burn this disk because it's WAVs?05:59
variantNinja562: as ianmacgregor says upgrade: hoary -> breezy -> dapper05:59
frantici wouldn't think gstreamer would have any trouble with wavs05:59
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whysohi, i am about to install, but perfectdisk is saying my c: pagefile is fragmented, but it wont run correctly on startup, should i go ahead and install?06:00
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variantNinja562: so change hoary to breezy in sources.list and then do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade06:00
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Keyseirkrazykit: I don't think it's letting me boot from disc06:00
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variantNinja562: then repeat those steps changing from breezy to dapper06:01
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variantwhyso: never heard of perfect disk06:01
Keyseirkrazykit: Also, I just realized that formatting C would probably delete VMware tools =/06:01
variantwhyso: do you have a spare partition?06:01
whysoyup!06:01
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variantwhyso: shouldnt matter then06:01
whyso(i need to resize the windows one tho)06:01
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variantwhyso: you can do a filessystem check on the windows drive from in ubuntu which is probably a good idea06:02
clintsnet;)06:02
variantwhyso: yeah, cd comes witha version of gparted that will do that06:02
clintsnetI need to get back on ubuntu :-)06:02
variantwhyso: although its a bit out of date (the current gparted release is awsome, full functionality!)06:02
whysothanks!06:02
clintsnetis smoking, trying to calm down.. ya know..06:02
clintsnet;)06:02
franticsmoking what?06:03
variantfrantic: a haddock06:03
variantfrantic: kipper*#06:03
frantic!06:03
whysoalthough i cant use live CD, (doesnt work (cause of raid?)) so tryign to resize before i install06:03
variantwhyso: ok06:03
clintsnetanyone know how I can get some software, gui, etc.. whatever, to access files in NTFS< partitions, and drives, having problems on debian testing.. >_<06:03
krazykitrex: ok, i got it.  paste this into your terminal:  xmodmap -e "keycode 33= p"06:03
KeyseirYou leave, Krazykit?06:03
Keyseirspeaka da devil06:04
variantwhyso: resize with partiton magic or whatever but leave creation of the ubuntu parition to the ubuntu installer06:04
krazykitKeyseir: nope.  um, i dunno then.06:04
rexppppppp!06:04
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rexpppppppppp!06:04
variantclintsnet: so ask in #debian, this is #ubuntu06:04
clintsnetyeah i know :D06:04
rexPraise God!06:04
clintsnetI'm coming back :-)06:04
rexweird06:04
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rexthanks, krazykit06:04
clintsnetgetting ready to see how vmware does on, beta, :-)06:04
krazykitrex: dunno.  something nuked that keysym for some reason.  remember tha command and xev, and you can remap anything06:04
rexkoo06:05
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clintsnetI'm coming back variant, just waiting on this download, 81%06:05
clintsnet:-)06:05
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clintsnethey variant06:06
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KeyseirDon't suppose anyone has a clean windows 2000 or XP vmdk sitting around?06:06
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Lurch21Zenit: did you get my request06:06
varsendaggrhey what plays ram?06:07
varsendaggr.ram06:07
clintsnetreal media ?06:07
clintsnetreal player06:07
varsendaggrclintsnet, yes06:07
clintsnetreal player06:07
varsendaggrwhere do i get it?06:07
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clintsnetwant me take this, Mandriva, from 2007 PowerPack I was testing with hee.. and take it from Mandriva :P06:07
KeyseirDoes anyone have a clean windows 2000/xp vmware installation?06:08
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clintsnetI will convert it to deb binary, then I will compile for ubuntu package :)06:08
SuperMiguelwhat is the difference between xen and vmware??06:08
clintsnetit also had that, LinDVD on there hee :p06:08
SuperMiguelkey go to the web page06:08
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clintsnetSuper. way diff :)06:09
SuperMiguelclintsnet: like?06:09
variantSuperMiguel: you keep asking that06:09
clintsnetwell, I use vmware to run my Windows XP Pro VLK inside06:09
SuperMiguelvlk?06:09
clintsnetVolume LIcense Key06:09
clintsnetits my IT edition06:09
SuperMiguelwhat else?06:10
clintsnetI dont' have to every worry about registering with Microsoft.. or doing major changes to hardware, and then Microsoft Asking me to register, etc06:10
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SuperMiguelhow did you get that?06:10
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ice_creami ran into an interesting problem today... couldnt install ieee8021106:11
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cniowenmsameone cant help me, i don't know how to instal usb drive06:11
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ice_creami needed to install it in such a way as to be able to compile ipw2200 driver...06:12
SuperMiguelwhat is the difference between xen and vmware??06:12
mikm[laptop] Different ways of emulation06:12
mikm[laptop] Well, I'm using the term "emulate" loosely06:12
SuperMiguelwhich one is better?06:12
mikm[laptop] Depends on the task06:12
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mikm[laptop] xen requires an OS that is compatable06:13
SuperMiguelwhat can you do on vmware server06:13
SuperMiguelthat you cant on zex06:13
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mikm[laptop] Not sure.06:13
mikm[laptop] Vmware lets you emulate any OS06:13
clintsnetdang I having alot of fun :P06:13
clintsnetcniowenm?06:13
mikm[laptop] Although it's slower for that reason06:13
mikm[laptop] Well, not *any*06:13
clintsnetthats right :-)06:13
Mad3Max3asymmetry, ok.. burned the new ISO, and the same problem.. I/O error hdc.. ect.. still wont boot.06:13
clintsnetalot though :-)06:13
Ninja562What app should I use to edit the sources.list file?06:13
cniowenmi need help sameome can't help me06:13
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mikm[laptop] Architecture, etc.06:14
SuperMiguelit is slow?06:14
mikm[laptop] Ninja562 Whatever is your favorite editor06:14
clintsnetvmware workstation 5.5 , runs great on linux06:14
mikm[laptop] SuperMiguel It's usable06:14
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clintsnetI don't like it on windows, vmware :P06:14
SuperMiguelxen is faster?06:14
nautAny fluxbox users here?06:14
mikm[laptop] Ninja562 I prefer vim, but gedit works well06:14
clintsnetI don't use Xen06:14
frantic\M/ VIM \M/06:14
SuperMiguelwhich do you use06:14
mikm[laptop] vim06:14
clintsnetvmware workstation 5.5 for linux06:14
SuperMiguelwhat is the good thing about vmware server?06:15
mikm[laptop] Not sure what the difference of server vs. regular is06:15
krazykitSuperMiguel: easy to make new VMs06:15
variantclintsnet: thats free right? would you mind dcc'ing it to me?06:15
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JNeverMindmake: not found06:15
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JNeverMindheh06:15
blerk_can anyone tell me howto get the "system tools" meny to appear in my applications menu.. when i edit the menu its there and some apps are enabled, ther're just no system tools menu :(06:15
q_a_z_stevehey, I'm trying to set up a script to run dcfldd 15 times doing different things, /dev/zero, random and urandom. First I can use each of these ?06:15
clintsnetwell, depends on what you consider free, me sending it, or vmware insiders06:15
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clintsnet:-)06:15
variantclintsnet: im not that botherd tbh :)06:16
clintsnetlet me install this, ubuntu beta06:16
clintsnetokay np :-)06:16
clintsnetSuper, I"ll show ya how to set it up, :-)06:16
krazykitJNeverMind: apt-get install build-essential06:16
Mad3Max3anyone know why Ubunti livecd wont boot on my new computer. stops att booting kernel.. and get's errors.. hdc error ect06:16
SuperMigueli know how :P06:16
clintsnetor I tell ya what, let me just make a pre virtual machine, and you guys can run vmware player, with custom virtual machine :-)06:16
clintsnetsnapshot ;)06:17
variantclintsnet: would you send me the workstation please?06:17
JNeverMinddoes anyone find themselves using TABkey for completing sentences in here ? lol06:17
clintsnetyep06:17
clintsnet;)06:17
variantJNeverMind: all the time, its very annoying06:17
ice_creamalways06:17
fowlduckno :/06:17
frantici ran vista in vmware for about 3 minutes06:17
clintsnet$18906:17
clintsnet:-)06:17
variantfrantic: poor you06:17
franticThen I was like, Why?06:17
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franticThen I considered burning a DVD so I could do a proper install on another HD06:18
JNeverMindim really liking the switch to ubuntu but this one thing is giving me grief06:18
SuperMigueli just got a server computer06:18
franticAnd... Why?06:18
SuperMiguelit is really goof idea to install vmware server?06:18
variantJNeverMind: the tab key?06:18
cniowenmi need help  to install my usb drive sameon can help me?06:18
clintsnetgoing to burn this cd, ubuntu beta, talk soon06:18
JNeverMindno im using ubuntu server right now but there is a glitch with teamspeak server software06:18
SuperMiguelcniowenm what do you mean?06:18
krazykitJNeverMind: no, i don't.  but i LOVE tab completion.  zsh has much better tab completion than bash ;-)06:18
clintsnettalk soon ;)06:19
variantcniowenm: what do you mean install it? put it in the usb socket and its installed06:19
franticPROVE IT06:19
JNeverMindit kicks everyone off a few times a day, except for me, connecting from inside the lan06:19
blerknobody knows howto enable the system tools menu to appear on the application menu?06:19
cniowenmmy drive usb i need the comand to instal06:19
SuperMiguelcniowenm: to install what06:19
JNeverMindthats what  i mean i find myself using TAB to try to complete sentences and words in irc DOH06:19
variantcniowenm: its allready installed (if you mean the usb driver)06:19
krazykitcniowenm: plug it in.  it should just work.06:19
cniowenmusb command06:20
krazykitcniowenm: there is no usb command.  it'll just be /dev/sd?06:20
SuperMiguelmount /media/usb06:20
variantcniowenm: what are you trying to do?06:20
SuperMiguelxD06:20
JNeverMindive had teamspeak server running on win and slack for long periods with Never a kick06:20
clintsnetcniowenm:06:20
JNeverMindi cant figure it out06:20
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clintsnetits not as bad as.. configuring debian :-)06:20
JNeverMindim going to recompile the kernel myself and see if the prob persists06:20
krazykitJNeverMind: maybe there are hints in the logs?06:20
SuperMiguelJNeverMind: i know whats wrong06:20
JNeverMindSuperMig what is it ?06:20
variantJNeverMind: you on dapper?06:21
SuperMiguelJNeverMind: you are using windows xD06:21
JNeverMindyes dapper server06:21
JNeverMinddapper drake is right beside me06:21
variantJNeverMind: i had a network timeout issue with edgy but that was fixed in latest version06:21
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JNeverMindive tried 2 different pcs and 4 diff nics06:21
JNeverMindexact same prob on default install dapper server06:21
variantgod damn making a 5gb tar file takes too long06:21
franticheh06:22
JNeverMindim new to ubuntu but cant get past this06:22
cniowenmi'll try krazykit. thanks very much06:22
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JNeverMindSuperMig what was your idea for me?06:22
franticat work, i back up like 20G of data to 7zip files every night06:22
SuperMiguelany good server to put on a server machine beside http, ssh and ftp06:22
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franticit takes over 8 hours06:22
krazykitSuperMiguel: cups?06:23
SuperMiguelcups?06:23
SuperMiguelwhat is that06:23
variantSuperMiguel: et06:23
SuperMiguelet?06:23
krazykitSuperMiguel: Common Unix Print System06:23
Mad3Max3seems like Konppix works better than ubuntu06:23
wastrelprint server06:23
SuperMiguelohh06:23
SuperMigueland et?06:23
Mad3Max3knoppix*06:23
JNeverMindi like the way ubuntu is heading and i thought id really try to use it06:23
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JNeverMindbut i cant get past this one thing with ts06:23
JNeverMindive tried searching the logs for anything at the same time as the ts server is kicking those connected from outside lan06:24
franticgod why won't this cd burn06:24
SuperMiguelMad3Max3: knoppix is good, but you are on a #ubuntu chat why would you say that in here06:24
variantJNeverMind: ask on some teamspeak forum as it odesn tseem to be a ubuntu issue from what you say06:24
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SuperMiguelvariant: what iset06:24
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SuperMiguelis et*06:24
JNeverMindive got  a thread going at ts forums my username is VascoMan06:24
mailinhhi all06:24
JNeverMindnever had this prob with win or slack06:25
Mad3Max3SuperMiguel - cause ubuntu wont boot on my machine when knoppix does..06:25
JNeverMindi know im not giving much info06:25
mailinhi want to modify the installation process of Ubuntu ???06:25
franticAnyone ever have this problem with Serpentine?06:25
variantSuperMiguel: game server06:25
franticIt "prepares the media files"06:25
SuperMiguelMad3Max3: what is says ?06:25
mailinhgive me guide's linke, plz06:25
JNeverMindany troubleshooting ideas for me ppl?06:25
franticthen it fails when that's done06:25
SuperMiguelvariant: what kind of game06:25
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variantSuperMiguel: fps06:25
SuperMiguelfps? like?06:26
franticConverting files failed06:26
Ninja562I am having no luck at all editing the sources.list, do I need to modify the file permissions or something?06:26
variantSuperMiguel: first person shooter06:26
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SuperMiguelMad3Max3: what is the error06:26
variantNinja562: you have to do it as root06:26
krazykitNinja562: run it as sudo/gksudo06:26
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variantNinja562: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list06:26
SuperMiguellike counter strike?06:26
Mad3Max3SuperMiguel, well.. it stalls right in the begining! ..06:26
variantSuperMiguel: yes06:26
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Ninja562Ahhh! what is the command for root?06:26
variantNinja562: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list06:26
krazykitNinja562: sudo06:26
SuperMiguelMad3Max3: do you have an compaq or hp machine?06:26
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Mad3Max3SuperMiguel, A selfbuilt machine06:27
SuperMiguelok06:27
JNeverMindls06:27
Mad3Max3SuperMiguel, AMD64 with SATA drive06:27
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SuperMiguelMad3Max3: when you just start the cd its says boot and install ubuntu, blah blach, boot from the hard drive06:27
SuperMiguelMad3Max3: choosethe first option and without hiting enter press f606:28
Mad3Max3ye06:28
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Mad3Max3yes06:28
SuperMiguelMad3Max3: and type acpi=off06:28
SuperMigueland hit enter06:28
variantMad3Max3: try in safe graphics mode06:28
Lurch21Does anyone know how to install the drivers for an intel base wirless device. I downloaded the ipw2200 firmware.06:28
SuperMiguelwhat it does just reboot the computer automatically?06:28
cniowenm_i can't find usb in my computer i need help06:28
q_a_z_steveSuperMiguel: Can you help me?06:28
SuperMiguelq_a_z_steve: ill try06:29
q_a_z_stevehey, thanks. I wasn't sure if anyone could see my messages.06:29
q_a_z_stevehey, I'm trying to set up a script to run dcfldd 15 times doing different things, /dev/zero, random and urandom. First I can use each of these ?06:29
Mad3Max3SuperMiguel, I will try that.. with F6.... the error I get is something like this! "190.241885 : Hdc, Ide_Intr : huh? expected null handler on exit"06:29
SuperMiguel:)06:30
q_a_z_steveSecond, I have the commands figured out, but I need help with the script...06:30
SuperMigueltry another cd06:30
Lurch21can anyone help me.06:30
SuperMiguelq_a_z_steve: to make them?06:30
cniowenm_help me to instal usb i my computer06:30
Mad3Max3SuperMiguel, this is the second CD im trying.. :(06:30
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SuperMiguelMad3Max3: download kubuntu and try06:31
SuperMiguelwait are you downloading edgy?06:31
SuperMiguelor 6.06?06:31
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Mad3Max3Dapper.. I like gnome06:31
Mad3Max36.06.106:31
SuperMigueltry kubuntu, then install ubuntu-desktop and unistall kubuntu-desktop06:31
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SuperMiguelill be back06:32
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Mad3Max3why Kubuntu.. whats the diff?06:32
q_a_z_stevelinux syntax...06:32
q_a_z_steveI want to run06:32
q_a_z_stevefor ((a=1; a <= 5 ; a++)) {06:32
q_a_z_stevefor ((b=1; b <= 3 ; b++))06:32
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clearzenI've set up a server in my house for the first time but I am having a few problems with it and wanted to get  some advice. My download/upload speeds are not what they should be. Also, the server caches all of the ram and does not release the cached memory for use. How can I stop this?06:33
q_a_z_steveand for each b... b==1, run zero b==2 run random b==3 run urandom06:33
cniowenm_help to find usb driv i my computer06:33
q_a_z_steveI don't know how to make the if statement work...06:34
cniowenm_i need sameon to help me i can't find usb drive in my computer06:34
variantcool, ext4 on the way06:34
clearzencniowenm_: try /dev/sda106:35
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JNeverMindis there a quickway to get the kernel source off the server cd? like apt-get ?06:36
clearzencniowenm_: that should be your usb device and you can mount it using something like mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk -v if that is what you mean06:36
Ninja562in the sources.list, do I want to uncomment the two lines to add software from the universe?06:37
JNeverMindkernel-package ?06:37
clearzencniowenm_: what kind of device is it?06:37
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variantNinja562: not if you dont need it06:37
q_a_z_stevekernel.org06:38
Ninja562OK, I will hold off on that, no search and replace, so I am doing it manually06:38
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variantcniowenm_: im impressed that you found how to get on irc.. can you find your butt?06:40
n4phelp i need help my usb drived away06:40
variantLol06:40
Lam_is there a cli command to log out of a session?06:40
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variantLam_: killall <yoursessionmanager>06:40
Lam_variant: thanks06:40
Lurch21Can explain how to copy ipw2200 firmware file into /lib/firmware Please.06:40
youseranyone here know much about backends and xsane or scanners?06:40
Mad3Max3damn error.. im starting to get irritated - [190.241885]  hdc : ide_intr: huh? expected null handler on exit06:41
variantLam_: with the cp command06:41
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variantLam_: type "man cp"06:41
variantLurch21: type "man cp"06:41
yousermy scanner will not work with xsane... yet06:41
Epidemikhey06:41
Epidemiktommarows my birthday06:42
n4pyay06:42
youserhappy bday dude06:42
n4ptoo bad you didnt learn how to spell yet06:42
youserits like almost 1am here06:42
variantits 05:42 here06:42
yousereast siiiide white trash wit tat2s06:43
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variantololol06:43
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n4pnyc reppin this chan or what06:43
n4pdamn06:43
yousermy scanner is reppin not working06:43
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n4plols06:43
cniowenm_clearzen i try but the command is not find06:43
JbirkAh, my first shower in about 2 days06:43
JbirkI am so glad the contractors finished the bathroom06:43
variantcniowenm_: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && ls /mnt06:44
Lurch21Variant: I have a ipw2200 firmware file in my tmp folder how do i copy it in the /lib/firmware file06:44
n4p:x06:44
variantLurch21: cp /tmp/filename /lib/firmware/06:44
n4pdidnt you learn basic copying cmds06:44
Ninja562how do I log in as root for permissions to upgrade  and update06:44
Ninja562?06:44
variantNinja562: sudo su06:44
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JNeverMindi want to recompile my kernel is there a way to get the /usr/scr with apt-get ?06:45
Ninja562OK, thanks06:45
variantNinja562: or just run the commands with sudo infront (advised)06:45
variantJNeverMind: apt-get install kernel-source06:45
AsheDso, I have been told that my Ubuntu box has a virus or something [because our router hates us, and if everybody is online, speed goes to shit] , any way I can check?06:45
variantJNeverMind: then untar it and symlink it06:45
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variantAsheD: apt-get install clamav06:45
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JNeverMindim using server ubuntu06:45
Ninja562I tried the command with sudo in front and got a permission denied06:45
n4plol vari06:45
JNeverMindsays cant find that package06:46
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variantJNeverMind: sorry, that should be apt-get install linux-source06:46
SuperMiguelJNeverMind: are you using any gui?\06:46
variantNinja562: type sudo su -06:46
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Lurch21varian: I got this responce "cp: cannot create regular file `/lib/firmware/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz': Permission denied06:47
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JNeverMindno im console mode, default install ubuntu 6.0.6 server06:47
SuperMiguellurch use sudo su06:47
youserwtf 127.0.0.106:47
variantLurch21: you need root permissions to write to that folder06:47
yousersomething is telnetting my comp06:47
JNeverMindthe cd is in the drive06:47
youserona ridiculous port06:47
n4pkill it06:47
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variantLurch21: and you probably want to untar the archive before you copy it06:47
youserhow?06:47
Healotrm -rf ubuntu :)06:47
l3tuc3I should get a pcmcia wireless card for my old lappie :)06:47
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youseri can only see it on my firestarter06:48
SuperMiguelem -rf ubuntu?? what is that06:48
JNeverMindcant find linux-source either06:48
l3tuc3its actually working better then when I had windows 2k on it06:48
John2583does anyone know how to disable the hardware abstraction layer from starting at boot besides using bum?06:48
Lurch21Variant: how do i untar?06:48
variantJNeverMind: linux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches06:48
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variantLurch21: tar -xvcf filename.tgz06:49
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SuperMiguelJNeverMind: what are you going to do which that server06:49
youserhow do i close a connection i might find in firestarter?06:49
variantyouser: create a policy in the policy tabs explicitly blocking connections from that ip/host06:50
JNeverMindfor one thing its going to run teamspeak06:50
youserits 127.0.0.106:50
variantyouser: lol, thats your computer06:50
youserbut nothing is running and it is notmy modem06:50
SuperMiguelyouser: thats your ip06:50
Ninja562Still getting that unable to lock administrative directory error06:50
Mad3Max3SuperMiguel, does it matter that the DVD is master.. ? I maybe shall put it as slave or something06:50
youserbut its not the same port as my modem06:50
variantyouser: what sort of connection is it? (what service?)06:50
youserunknown06:50
JNeverMindapt-get build-essentials went fine06:50
variantyouser: ignore it06:50
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SuperMiguelyouser 127.0.0.1 thats your computer default ip06:51
SuperMiguelMad3Max3: try06:51
youserso why is my computer contacting itself06:51
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Lurch21variant: This happened "tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option06:51
Lurch21Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.06:51
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SuperMiguelyouser: is not contacting your self is using that port06:51
variantLurch21: tar xvzf sorry not xvcf06:51
youserusing it for what?06:51
youserit oesnt need to use that port06:52
SuperMiguelyouser: whats is the anme of the process06:52
avagant!tar06:52
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression06:52
yousername of what process?06:52
SuperMiguelyouser: it just says that 127.0.0.1 is using which process06:52
SuperMiguelor chich port06:52
SuperMiguelwhich*06:52
Lurch21variant: This happened "tar: ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory06:52
Lurch21tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now06:52
Lurch21tar: Child returned status 206:52
Lurch21tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors06:52
yousermy firestarter says source 127.0.0.1 is reaching destination 127.0.0.1 on port ****06:53
variantLurch21: you need to specify the path06:53
variantLurch21: tar -xvzf /path/to/file.tgz06:53
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cniowenm_sameon speek french06:53
variantLurch21: or be in the same directory06:53
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SuperMiguelyouser: lol, how do you think that firestarter work?06:53
variantcniowenm_: non06:53
Ninja562OK. I think I got it.06:53
variantcniowenm_: try ubuntu.fr06:54
youserbut thats not its normal port06:54
variantcniowenm_: try #ubuntu.fr06:54
SuperMiguelit have tos end signals back or forth to know all the incoming and outcoming connection06:54
youserbtw whatis python06:54
cniowenm_i can't explem i english06:54
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variantyouser: a programming language06:54
youseri see06:54
cniowenm_i need help fo my computer06:54
variantyouser: or a snake, depending on field of expertise06:54
yousercuzi keep getting a connection from python popping up and then going away06:54
youserand im not doing anything06:54
variantyouser: or somthing else if your in the porno industry06:54
SuperMiguelcniowenm_: necesitas algo06:55
cniowenm_i don't see ubs command in my computer06:55
Lurch21I have been un able to get the file in my directory it keeps telling me file not found but i can see it under my tmp file06:55
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SuperMiguelcniowenm_: what command do you need06:56
variantLurch21: tar -xvzf /tmp/FILENAME.tgz06:56
cniowenm_i see i the roots but cant see i my computer06:56
yousereither wayi give a fuck about my ports and shit06:56
youseri wanna get my scanner working06:56
cniowenm_how to make it appear in my computer06:56
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variantim off, gl all06:57
SuperMiguelcniwenm it wonr be on your computer06:57
SuperMiguelit have to be on /media06:57
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Lurch21variant: This happend "LICENSE06:57
Lurch21ipw-2.3-boot.fw06:57
Lurch21ipw-2.3-bss.fw06:57
Lurch21ipw-2.3-bss_ucode.fw06:57
Lurch21ipw-2.3-ibss.fw06:57
Lurch21ipw-2.3-ibss_ucode.fw06:57
youserdont forget mkdir06:57
Lurch21ipw-2.3-sniffer.fw06:57
Lurch21ipw-2.3-sniffer_ucode.fw06:57
SuperMiguelipw? whats that for06:58
variantLurch21: yeah, you untarred it06:58
variantLurch21: now copy it06:58
variantim off though so good luck Lurch2106:58
SuperMiguelvariant what is that for?06:58
Lurch21how did that look agian06:58
variantLurch21: cp /path/to/filename /location/you/want/to/put/it06:58
variantSuperMiguel: what?06:59
cniowenm_in my computer i see: files system ,cd_room 1, disquet1 but not usb driv06:59
SuperMiguelipw06:59
Lurch21Variant: Thanks for all the help06:59
variantLurch21: np, if i wasnt so tired i would try harder to help you :)06:59
variantlater06:59
Lurch21Variant : Have a good one.06:59
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SuperMiguellurch what are you tring to instal07:00
SuperMigueltrying07:00
SuperMiguelcniowenm_: try to take the usb out and put it back07:01
MrPocketswhy does, in windows onmy 19" LCD at 1280X1024, everything seems smaller and farther away, but in Ubuntu at the same settings everythings still very large07:01
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SuperMiguelMrPockets: did you install the drivers on ubuntu07:01
JNeverMindwhy doesnt TAB key work with ftp07:01
MrPocketsfor the GFX card?07:01
SuperMiguelyep07:02
cniowenm_nothing append07:02
MrPocketsi did not07:02
Lurch21SuperMiguel: The goal is my wirless driver, but I'm having problems just at the begininng trying to install the firmware.07:02
SuperMiguelMrPockets: tu tu ru07:02
MrPocketsthat makes sence07:02
SuperMiguelLurch21: what kind is it?07:02
MrPocketsbut how do i find linux drivers for a geforce card?07:02
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SuperMiguelMrPockets: nvidia?07:02
MrPocketsyes07:03
MrPockets520007:03
mikm[laptop] !nvidia07:03
SuperMiguelMrPockets: do you ahve automatix?07:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:03
mikm[laptop] MrPockets /\07:03
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MrPocketswhich is?07:03
MadpilotSuperMiguel, please don't recommend Automatix here. It's too good at breaking people's Ubuntu installations.07:03
MrPocketsah07:03
SuperMiguelMadpilot: it make live easier07:03
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mikm[laptop] Until it screws up.  Then it makes life much harder.07:04
MadpilotSuperMiguel, it makes breaking Ubuntu easier, sure07:04
silly_girl22help!!!!!!!!107:04
SuperMiguelcould you please tell me why?07:04
MrPocketsi should be able to do hat07:05
MrPocketsthanks07:05
MrPocketsim in Winblows now, however07:05
MrPocketsso it will have to wait07:05
mikm[laptop] silly_girl22 ?07:05
SuperMiguelMrPockets: install vmware on windows and you can run ubuntu xD07:05
SuperMiguelactually better you can install it :)07:05
mneptonSuperMiguel: i will put on my official hat and strongly encourage you not to use Automatix, EasyUbuntu, or any other such automated means of using apt.07:05
SuperMiguelmnepton: why is that07:06
SuperMiguela mean07:06
mneptonSuperMiguel: because they make assumptions about architecture, repos, versions, etc.07:06
SuperMiguelwhat does automatix does, just type on the terminal what you should on the manual mode?07:06
hoelkhmm automatix is a good way for installing more fonts07:07
hoelk;)07:07
Lurch21SuperMiguel: I am trying to cp the file ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz in to /lib/firmware. How do i do this07:07
mneptonSuperMiguel: the "what you should" is the sticky point07:07
SuperMiguelhow does automatix install frostwire?07:07
SuperMiguelapt-get install frostwire07:07
SuperMiguelhow do you do it on the manual mode ?07:07
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SuperMiguelLurch21: you what to copy the tgz file or the one extracted?07:07
hoelkcool people use "aptitude install frostwire", aptitude remembers dependencies07:08
hoelkfor uninstall07:08
SuperMiguelhoelk: so why automatix is bad?07:08
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Lurch21SuperMiguel: I just extracted the file using tar -xvzf /tmp/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz07:09
mneptonSuperMiguel: to get Frostwire to work you need Sun's Java (which means agreeing to the Sun license), you need your default Java changed to Sun's JRE, and you need Frostwire downloaded and installed. a script can seriously, seriously mess this up and leave a user with *no* functional JVM.07:09
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lwarimavhi all07:09
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SuperMiguelmnepton: you got your point :)07:09
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JNeverMind"apt-get install build-essentials, idl the latest kernel from kernel.org and i am getting errors, make menuconfig is not working07:10
AWOSDevI need help with the sequencer, it seems fairly dead.07:10
SuperMiguelLurch21: so somewhere should be a file name ipw2200-fw...07:10
mneptonSuperMiguel: i'll even go so far as to say "just do as i say" on this issue. and that's something i really, *really* don't like doing. at all.07:10
Lurch21The file was downloaded into my tmp07:10
Ninja562that upgrade +Update takes a bit, must be a slow connection07:10
SuperMiguelmnepton: are you mad?07:10
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mneptonSuperMiguel: not at all. should i be?07:11
SuperMiguelmnepton: i dont mind xD07:11
SuperMiguelim jst wanted to know07:11
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SuperMigueljust*07:11
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SuperMiguelmnepron can i ask you something?07:12
gnychishow can i get an application to run on bootup? like synergy?07:12
AWOSDevWhat other information may you need to render this problem fixed?07:12
mikm[laptop] gnychis Running gnome?07:12
lwarimavI have a problem with my usb drive. When i put in my usd flash, and click on my computer, it can be read. When i try lsusb, it listed me my usb drives... So what should i do?07:12
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gnychismikm[laptop] : yes07:12
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mikm[laptop] gnychis System -> Preferences -> Session Manager07:12
mikm[laptop] Err Sessions07:12
mikm[laptop] Go to the startup programs tab07:13
mneptonSuperMiguel: i think you just did. :)07:13
SuperMiguelbesides http, ftp, ssh server which is a good server for a server computer?07:13
SuperMiguelor a really useful server07:13
mneptonSuperMiguel: if you mean "can i ask you something else besides 'can i ask you something'?" then the answer is "yes" ;)07:13
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Lurch21SuperMiguel: what code should i use to cp ipw2200 from my tmp to /lib/firmware07:13
AWOSDevSuperMiguel, that's easier, POP/SMTP.07:14
Hmmmmhi guys, my terminal has some weird setting for keyboard. any idea how i can run the setup the keyboard layout for the CLI again?07:14
SuperMiguelsudo cp -a ipw2200 /lib/firmware07:14
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AWOSDevlwarimav, hopefully you typed your question wrong -- is there really a problem with it reading it?07:14
mneptonSuperMiguel: i don't use FTP. but ssh, an httpd, mysql, and php/python/ruby are de rigeur for me07:14
OmniDHey guys how would I bridge a wifi connection?07:14
SuperMiguelryby?07:14
snoopsSuperMiguel, samba, nfs07:14
SuperMiguelruby?07:15
mneptonSuperMiguel: http://ruby-lang.org07:15
SuperMiguel!ruby07:15
snoopsruby is a language, not a protocol07:15
uboturuby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB07:15
AWOSDevI still say POP/SMTP is useful07:15
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gnychismikm[laptop] :  actually, how do i get it at boot time, not on login?07:15
SuperMiguelAWOSDev: mail server?07:15
Hmmmmguys, my terminal has some weird setting for keyboard. any idea how i can run the setup the keyboard layout for the CLI again?07:15
lwarimavAWOSDev, yes there is a problem reading it. now I know that there is a command that will open it. But i do not know which is it...07:16
AWOSDevSuperMiguel, exactly!  :)07:16
Lurch21SuperMiguel: This happend sudo cp -a ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/lib/firmware07:16
Lurch21cp: missing destination file operand after `ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/lib/firmware'07:16
Lurch21Try `cp --help' for more information.07:16
snoopsno point putting stuff on a server if it's not going to be used..the whole point of a server is to do the job it's meant for, as fast as possible..there's a reason the ubuntu one doesn't come with a gui07:16
AWOSDevlwarimav, mount maybe?07:16
mikm[laptop] gnychis Not sure.  Better ask somebody smarter/more experienced.07:16
AWOSDevLurch21, try "sudo cp -a ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz /lib/firmware"07:16
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AWOSDevwith a space between "tgz" and "/lib/firmware" :)07:17
Lam_anyone here ever got knetworkmanager and ndiswrapper working correctly together?  mine stalls at 28%07:17
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silly_girl21i have a vagina07:18
AWOSDevPlease, does anybody know how to fix a MIDI problem?  Depending on which application I run I get different errors.  KMid gives "another application may be using it" and rosegarden gives "open /dev/snd/seq failed: Permission denied" followed by "waiting for Sequencer to come up" endless times07:18
lwarimavAWOSDev, I not a pro of linux so i do not know mush about the command. but if you do, can you tell how???07:18
darnell_classy07:18
AWOSDev!ops07:18
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!07:18
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AWOSDevOps, I believe a ban for silly_girl is in order.07:19
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Hmmmm!kezboard07:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kezboard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:19
Hmmmm!kezboard07:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kezboard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:19
AWOSDevlwarimav -- I'm not sure what /dev/ file your USB is using.07:19
AWOSDev!keyboard07:19
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net07:19
SuperMiguel!keyboard07:19
AWOSDev:)07:19
SuperMiguelany one use vmware server?07:20
AWOSDevlwarimav -- I need to know what /dev/ file it is using, and what File System (e.g. FAT?  ext3?) it is using before I can give you the command.07:20
AWOSDevSuperMiguel -- Yuck!07:20
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=== AWOSDev loves Qemu
SuperMiguelwhat is qemu?07:20
AWOSDev!info qemu07:20
ubotuqemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)07:20
AWOSDev!qemu07:20
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo07:20
SuperMiguelwhat is the difference?07:21
BHSPitLappySuperMiguel, I've used vmware player, (free)07:21
AWOSDevSuperMiguel, Qemu is free as in freedom.07:21
SuperMiguelwhat is the good thing about vmware server?07:21
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AWOSDevSuperMiguel, uh, it costs $$$$ and makes an IT budget look good?07:22
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BHSPitLappyqemu seems more functional07:22
Lurch21SuperMiguel: I used this sudo su cp/path/to/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/tmp/firmware07:22
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, moneywise, they're both free,07:22
dEmoNiohi i was wanting to know if there was anyway to launch a dir to Nautilus via terminal ??07:22
SuperMiguelsudo su cp/path/to/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz /tmp/firmware07:22
SuperMigueldEmoNio: ls07:22
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Lurch21SuperMiguel: and got this Unknown id: cp/path/to/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/tmp/firmware07:23
Dr_willismnepton,  that thing still exists? gesh07:23
mneptonDr_willis: probably a better upgrade path for VB6 users than is VB.NET07:23
mneptonDr_willis: and as such, i expect we'll get at least a couple customers using it. while not supported, i'd still like to know about it.07:24
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Dr_willismnepton,  heh - whatebver happened to that Kylix. :)07:24
Lurch21SuperMiguel: How do i know the file has been cp07:24
dEmoNioSuperMiguel i want to open a folder like /home/user/downloads through the terminal07:24
snoopskylix, same as delphi..same as borland have basically dropped off the planet07:25
AWOSDevLurch21, no errors = it's been cp'ed :)07:25
SuperMiguelcd /home/user/downloadd07:25
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dEmoNioyes but i want it to open in Nautilus07:25
mneptonDr_willis: anything Borland makes me vomit into my mouth a little07:25
Dr_willisborland - theres a company that managed to hang on and still never get a clue. :)07:25
mneptonDr_willis: their corporate immune system kills "clues" and "good ideas" and "customer value" on contact07:26
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mikedamannhello07:26
dEmoNioSuperMiguel exactly like you said but i want it opening up with the defualt file browser07:27
BHSPitLappyhow does one change the default music player/07:28
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SuperMiguelgksudo nautilus07:29
dEmoNioBHSPitLappy i think you can right click > properties > open with07:29
BHSPitLappydementt, right, but that's for individual file types07:30
BHSPitLappythere's one for gnome in general07:30
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BHSPitLappyand I haven't a clue how to change it07:30
julianwat file system you ppl using07:31
AWOSDevExt307:31
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AWOSDevReiserFS on my other Linux (SuSE)07:31
virtual-stargazejulian: ext3, swap (duh), and ntfs07:31
BHSPitLappyreiserfs07:31
AWOSDevBut for mission critical data I use ext307:31
BHSPitLappyext3 FTL07:32
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julianever try xfs07:32
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, what's wrong with ext3?07:32
julianits slow07:32
BHSPitLappyI think there's more of a windows accessibility for reiserfs than there is for ext307:32
AWOSDevI tried to access my ReiserFS once from Windows07:32
AWOSDevIRQL_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL07:33
AWOSDevor maybe it was KERNEL_PAGE_FAULT07:33
julianblue screen?07:33
AWOSDevSTOP error07:33
AWOSDevyes07:33
julianugh i hate that07:33
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AWOSDevBut ext3 came up straight away07:33
julianreboot07:33
AWOSDevTried three times07:33
AWOSDevstill no dice :(07:33
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snoopsthere's the ext2 driver for windows to read ext2 and ext3 partitions - full read/write support at fs-driver.org07:34
snoopsnot sure if it works in vista or not07:34
AWOSDevThis is the one I tried: http://rfsd.sourceforge.net/07:35
dEmoNioSuperMiguel thanks i figured it out i can just do nautilus /home/blah and it will open there07:35
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AWOSDevVista?  heh you people...Vista doesn't even have a DDK out yet...07:35
AWOSDevit *couldn't* support Vista07:35
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juliananyone use beep media player07:36
AWOSDevNope, VLC + amaroK for me07:36
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snoopsddk AWOSDev?07:37
julianhmmm trying to figure out how to dock it in panel07:37
AWOSDevsnoops, Driver Development Kit07:37
snoopsah, right..07:37
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snoopswell, *most* things on xp will work on vista..hence my remark07:38
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t0mazragehi07:38
AWOSDevHello t0mazrage.07:38
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mikedamannis anyone familiar with aptana IDE installation on ubuntu?07:38
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AWOSDevUm no, personally I use Kdevelop (which is in the repos)07:39
t0mazrageim looking for help, i want to install obuntu in my pc...but i have some questions...07:39
AWOSDevt0mazrage, alright go ahead and ask.07:39
julianyes yes, windows sux07:39
JbirkI just installed the adobe reader07:39
JbirkI have a problem though07:39
t0mazragecan i install HP 1510 All in ONE?07:40
JbirkHow do I get it to work with firefox?07:40
AWOSDevJbirk in what way?07:40
AWOSDev!printers07:40
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:40
t0mazragemy RADEON 9250 AGP card its compatible?07:40
JbirkI want firefox to open PDF files from within firefox07:40
Jbirkvia Acroread07:40
AWOSDevt0mazrage 99% of the RADEONs are07:40
BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, yes. eeeeasily.07:40
AWOSDevJbirk well, uh, no clue.07:40
BHSPitLappythe printer I mean07:41
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t0mazrageok07:41
AWOSDevt0mazrage the PSC 1510 is fully supported.07:41
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AWOSDevas of Breezy even.07:41
AWOSDev(previous version)07:41
t0mazragei try mandrake about 4 years ago, the 8 version... and its great(free) but, i had a lot of problems with the drivers...07:41
BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, believe me, this is much different.07:42
AWOSDevYeah Linux 4 years ago didn't really support my computer either.07:42
t0mazrageso, i think ubuntu is a good option07:42
BHSPitLappyubuntu is way better than mandriva even07:42
JbirkYes07:42
BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, I think it's the best option.07:42
t0mazrageim from mexico.. and nobody wants to try linux, just windows windows windows07:42
Jbirkquestion07:42
AWOSDevYes very good for people new to Linux and "old hats" too.07:42
JbirkSame in teh USA07:42
JbirkNObody wants to try Linux07:42
AWOSDevt0mazrage, good for you pioneering Mexican Linux :)07:42
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t0mazragejajaja07:43
JbirkI still rely on windows07:43
BHSPitLappyI have all my close friends willing to switch completely to ubuntu07:43
AWOSDevJbirk, not really, I know lots of people here in the States that use Linux.07:43
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BHSPitLappytwo of them, I have already done so with07:43
t0mazragei know some ppl.. about 3 or 4 who hads ubuntus..07:43
julianppl dont want to bother to learn something new07:43
JbirkI can't get all the buttons working on my mouse07:43
JbirkI serriously need hlep with that07:43
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BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, that's surprising, though, given that... well, there are a lot of low-income areas.07:43
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, yeah most everyone I know uses Linux, except one, and she's still using Windows 98.  Won't take 2000 or Linux, or anything.  stuck with 98...*sigh*07:44
BHSPitLappywell, it's not surprising. linux isn't really common knowledge.07:44
BHSPitLappyhaha07:44
t0mazragewell, i'll try ubuntu, im downloading it rigth now...07:44
BHSPitLappywell, it's not a terrible choice within the windows world07:44
AWOSDevNo, no 98 is alright, but still07:44
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BHSPitLappyI'd personally take 2000 over 9807:45
AWOSDevoh heavens yes!07:45
t0mazrageanother question, what about the network?... is easy?, i have a broadband router, 2 pcs, wireless.. what about that?07:45
BHSPitLappythe time I spent on 2000, I did fine07:45
AWOSDevI told her "how can you not love the little Linux penguin?"  she said "I do but if I let you install it I won't anymore."  LOL07:45
julianif only games were made for linux07:46
BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, does one computer have a wired connection?07:46
AWOSDevt0mazrage, Yes networking is very easy.  I personally didn't even have to configure mine, save the static IP address.07:46
t0mazrageyes, this one07:46
snoopswireless is still a bit problematic in linux07:46
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, wireless is actually a b**** often.07:46
slideHas anyone used libapache2_mod_auth_mysql ? It appears that this mod gets forked a lot and the config options one site says work dont work with this one, is there anyway I can download the source for this package?07:46
BHSPitLappyit's an issue with ubuntu I'm personally very unhappy with07:47
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BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, you'll be fine with the wired one07:47
snoopsit's an issue with all distros BHSPitLappy07:47
AWOSDevOh I wasn't talking about WLANs, personally mine is still not working.07:47
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AWOSDevI'm talking on my *desktop*07:47
BHSPitLappysnoops, indeed, but that's no excuse for ubuntu to be lazy/inactive about it07:47
t0mazrageok, so the wireless network is a problem with ubuntu?07:47
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mneptonBHSPitLappy: the only big problem i see is lack of easy WPA. which means inexperienced users get stuck with a wired connection until they get network-manager-$DISPLAY_MANAGER07:48
BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, for the other computer, you'll have to install some more apps07:48
mneptonBHSPitLappy: i hope to have that addressed for Edy+1 at the UDS in a few weeks07:48
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julianmy laptop was supported out of box07:48
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normalI'm able to boot  the install CDs of Suse, Gentoo, Knoppix, and Fedora Core, but not one Ubuntu....But I want it!07:48
snoopst0mazrage it's dependant on chipsets of your wireless card.. the intel ones on laptops are fairly easy..but I think the point is, it's not plug and playy07:48
mneptont0mazrage: depends on your wireless card and authentication schema07:48
BHSPitLappymnepton, the sad part is, often a desktop will be -stuck- dependent on wireless.07:48
t0mazrageok, but is posible?... i know this gonna be hard to learn, but i want to try.. so, is posible?07:48
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BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, probably. have faith :)07:49
rredd4is there a way to disable the bongo drums sound before the login screen in dapper?07:49
BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, will you be dual-booting the PC(s)?07:49
t0mazrageno07:49
BHSPitLappyrredd4, turn off your speakers?07:49
mneptonBHSPitLappy: in that case someone could always resort to WEP instead of WPA until they get a network-manager package. but it's still not elegant.07:49
t0mazragei want to forget about windows.. hehe07:49
OmniDblaaaah07:49
t0mazragei'll try... i swear..07:50
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normalI just tried the Oct15 Edgy and it is added to my 'unable to boot' list..This doesn't bode well for the final working either, huh?07:50
BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, oh, well... maybe you should do this computer first, and then we'll work on the second computer.07:50
BHSPitLappyjust hold off for now07:50
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AWOSDevrredd4, KDM?07:50
BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, maybe even wait for Edgy, on the other computer? it will only be another week or so07:51
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SpaceFroghas anyone managed to get Photoshop CS2 working in Wine?07:51
rredd4AwosDev laptop  gdm07:51
BHSPitLappyand edgy might suit the wireless pc better07:51
snoopsyep SpaceFrog07:51
t0mazrageok..07:51
AWOSDevrredd4, I know, that was a suggestion in the form of a question...meaning...have you tried KDM?07:51
BHSPitLappySpaceFrog, there's a little tutorial for it somewhere07:51
snoopsthere was an article about it on digg yesterday.. let me go get it07:51
BHSPitLappygoogle it. photoshop cs2 wine07:51
rredd4BHSPitLappy  using a laptop cannot shut off speakers07:51
SpaceFrogi'll take a look07:51
AWOSDevGIYF...07:52
BHSPitLappyit's a pretty simple process, if you have the windows box available SpaceFrog07:52
rredd4AwosDev no, can i in kdm?07:52
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AWOSDevrredd4, no bongos at all in KDM.07:52
mneptonSpaceFrog: are you a graphics pre-press professional?07:52
rredd4AwosDev ok07:52
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SpaceFrogmnepton: No07:52
t0mazrageto share files and folders with windows pc? i remember when i had the mandrake, i had to install the samba server... is the same with ubunut?07:52
t0mazrageubuntu*07:52
BHSPitLappySpaceFrog, System>Administration>Login Window07:52
BHSPitLappySpaceFrog, third tab.07:53
snoopsSpaceFrog http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/2006/10/10/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps/07:53
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BHSPitLappywhoops07:53
BHSPitLappyrredd4, read my last few messages to SpaceFrog07:53
BHSPitLappySpaceFrog, sorry :)07:53
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mneptonSpaceFrog: it is my experience that only such people need what P-shop offers that GIMP does not07:54
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, I think switching to kdm is a bit extravagant of a suggestion.  especially considering his need is an implemented setting07:54
BHSPitLappymnepton, ehh, it's arguable.07:54
SpaceFrogmnepton: I expected someone to say that, but all i can say is that I prefer photoshop07:54
BHSPitLappygimp really doesn't match up to the ease-of-use features of cs07:55
rredd4BHSPitLappy ok07:55
SpaceFrogagreed07:55
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mneptonyeah, but $500/year is a good incentive to learn something new.07:55
BHSPitLappySpaceFrog, you'll hear a lot of "Why not try the opensource variant instead!" in here, but it's your choice to run your software if you want.07:56
BHSPitLappySpaceFrog, #wineHQ deals with wine, by the way07:56
snoopswell, the gimp is far behind in things like plugins, cmyk colour support etc..but well, you pay for what you get :). Good luck on the tutorial SpaceFrog07:56
Anubuntuheyo, I have a 5gig file that I need to get from ubuntu to windows. there is only an ntfs and several ext3 partitions on the drive, no network I can transfer it over, and no dvds to burn with.07:56
Anubuntuany ideas how to achieve this?07:56
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julian3g-driver07:57
mikm[laptop] Anubuntu there are tools floating around that let you read ext2/3 partitions in windows07:57
BHSPitLappySpaceFrog, if you're a paid customer, you might want to use that stock to write a nice email to adobe about getting the Linux platform supported in their software.07:58
AnubuntuI had Explore2fs, but it crashes whenever I try to take a big file over.07:58
BHSPitLappyit means less when a pirate writes the e-mail, though.07:58
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krazykitAnubuntu: ntfs-3g07:58
jasper`BHSPitLappy, hasn't Disney already successfully ported it?07:58
mneptonAnubuntu: http://fs-driver.org07:58
BHSPitLappyI've been meaning to try ntfs-3g07:58
BHSPitLappyjasper`, huh?07:58
SpaceFrogBHSPitLappy: Thanks07:58
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jasper`I'm fairly certain Disney managed to run Photoshop on Linux.07:59
snoopsAnubuntu go to fs-driver.org for a ext2 which also supports ext3 partitions for full read/write support on windows07:59
snoopsext2 driver*07:59
julianmaybe using crossover office07:59
mneptonjasper`: i'm prtettyy sure Macrodobe did not give Disney the Photoshop source ;)07:59
mnepton*pretty07:59
jasper`Big fuss a year or two about it, they weren't willing to pay ridiculous money on fees to MS etc.07:59
jasper`mnepton, the way I understood it they hadn't.08:00
mneptonjasper`: so how do you port code you don't have?08:00
mnepton(neat trick, if it works)08:00
AWOSDevmnepton, ndisasm :)08:00
jasper`I believe they ran it through their own polished version of wine.08:00
mneptonmy eyes! the goggles do nossing!08:01
AWOSDevHuh?08:01
mnepton"ndisasm"08:01
t0mazragethe last question today, ubuntu is compatible with hp lasserjet printers?.. can i get or see a list of compatible models.?08:01
mneptonhorrific.08:01
jasper`http://www.google.com/search?q=disney+photoshop+linux&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official08:01
mneptont0mazrage: http://linux-printing.org08:01
AWOSDevt0mazrage, also, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters08:02
mneptonooops08:02
mneptont0mazrage: http://linuxprinting.org08:02
rredd4BHSPitLappy ty!! that is a better solution then changing to kdm... !08:02
jasper`http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1210083,00.asp 3 years ago, should have it nicely tweaked by now.08:02
BHSPitLappyrredd4, no prob08:03
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SpaceFrogjasper': Photoshop 7.0 runs pretty decently in Linux, but CS2 doesn't even install.08:03
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snoopsSpaceFrog yeah it does..just look at the guide I pasted to you08:04
BHSPitLappySpaceFrog, using the guide?08:04
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AWOSDevWow jasper` that was an interesting article.08:05
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t0mazrageok BHSPitLappy, mnepton and AWOSDev... thanks a lot for your help, and remember me because i'll back quickly as i get a trouble.. hehe08:05
BHSPitLappyheh.08:05
AWOSDevt0mazrage, np, and go ahead :)08:05
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BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, is english your second language, by the way?08:06
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SpaceFrogstill following the guide. It tells me to install to Windows and then copy the dir over to LInux. It's a work-around for the installer problems.08:06
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t0mazragenah.. hahaha, i just try to speak english... i write better in spanish.. hehe08:06
BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, no, because your English is awesome08:06
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AWOSDevt0mazrage, you speak better than some native English speakers I've seen :)08:07
t0mazragebut yes, im mexican.. i live in the north, near the us border...08:07
BlueBoarlol08:07
snoopsSpaceFrog yeah, it's a problem with drm/activation/security that adobe put in cs208:07
BlueBoarnv, wrong window08:07
BHSPitLappycouldn't even tell it wasn't native08:07
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BHSPitLappywish my spanish was that fluent.08:07
t0mazragehehehe... watch spanish movies... the tip.. hehe08:08
krazykitwish my german were fluent :-/08:08
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=== AWOSDev 's C is fluent :P
levanderAny idea how to set up an X11 font server?  For use by Xming?08:09
t0mazrageyou help me with ubuntu, i'll help you with the spanish.. hehe08:09
BHSPitLappyI don't think you can, heh.08:09
levanderBHSPitLappy: you talking to me?08:09
BHSPitLappyno08:09
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy was talking to t0mazrage, levander08:10
t0mazrageok, see you guys, and thanks again... good nigth..08:10
BHSPitLappyt0mazrage, maybe in a week or two you'll be helping people in the Spanish ubuntu channel08:10
BHSPitLappybuenas noches08:10
t0mazragesure..08:10
t0mazragehehe08:10
t0mazragebye bye08:10
AWOSDevBye!08:10
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preactionis it bad that i consider apt-get and apt-cache easier than synaptic?08:11
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mikm[laptop] No :)08:12
levanderpreaction: use aptitude instead of apt-get, it has more features (like tracks which packages were installed for which paackages).  aptitude is command line just like apt-get08:12
AWOSDevpreaction, I personally find the CLI easier than the GUI.08:12
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levanderpreaction: the command line syntax is very similar, I haven't noticed any differences yet08:12
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julianhas anyone used parsix?08:13
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DtTvBHello there, I have a wide-screen monitor and I want to change the desktop resolution, but my preferred resolution isn't listed, can you tell me how can I change it?08:13
julianwhat video driver are u using dttvb08:13
DtTvBI don't know.08:13
DtTvBIt's on another computer.08:14
juliango into terminal and type "fglrxinfo"08:14
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DtTvBOK.08:14
DtTvB"bash: fglrxinfo: command nor found."08:15
jasper`Do they abuse@ departments of ISPs actually bother reading syslog extracts they're sent!?! I'm beginning to think the whole thing is a stale charade.08:15
adammkhelp i selected Configure network later when installing ubuntu and now i can't get ethernet working (i can't connect to the internet at all). I also have a wireless LAN card (it's a laptop), but i can't get that working either08:15
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jasper`adammk, presumably your machine is a client of a DHCP enabled server?08:16
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adammkyes i think so08:16
jasper`adammk, sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces08:17
julianwat kind of video card do u have08:17
jasper`auto eth008:17
jasper`iface eth0 inet dhcp08:17
jasper`adammk, those two lines occur yes?08:17
DtTvBIt's NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200. I just know.08:18
julianoh08:18
juliansorry i only know about ati cards08:18
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DtTvBOK.08:18
adammkall it says is loopback network interface08:18
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jasper`adammk, alright, well add them then.08:19
reduzQuestion - how can I enable bad block scanning on the ubuntu installer?08:19
DtTvBCan I edit a system file?08:19
jasper`adammk, Then we'll check the card is actually recognised by the system. If it is, we'll use a command to bring it up.08:19
adammkhow? what? isn't there a way to do the auto DHCP configuration again, like it does when intalling ubuntu?08:20
jasper`adammk, probably but this is the quickest approach.08:20
adammkyes it's recognized08:20
jasper`adammk, after you've done sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces you'll need to strike the i key (puts you into insert mode), add those two lines at the bottom of the file, hit escape then type :wq and enter.08:21
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jasper`adammk, then you'll be back in the terminal. `ifup eth0` should bring the card up.08:22
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adammkadd what 2 lines?08:22
jasper`auto eth008:22
jasper`iface eth0 inet dhcp08:22
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reduzah awesome08:24
reduzthe ubuntu installer does not even come with badblocks08:24
adammkk hang on i only have 1 ethernet cord so brb if it doesn't work08:24
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reduzso Question, how do I install into a disk that has a few broken sectors?08:24
sivikexit08:24
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AWOSDevreduz, uh, carefully?  :)08:29
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Sail_to_the_moonhas wine ever worked?08:30
BHSPitLappylol08:30
AWOSDevHard to say really.08:30
AWOSDevin 2003 it was alright08:30
Sail_to_the_mooni just want to play css08:30
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BHSPitLappylol, that's a small thing to ask right08:30
Sail_to_the_moonyeah08:31
AWOSDevCSS is...?08:31
Sail_to_the_mooncounter strike source08:31
BHSPitLappyreduz, 1) Remove disk, 2) Discard disk, 3) Purchase new disk, 4) Install new disk, 5) Boot to Ubuntu CD and run installer08:31
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy :P08:31
avagantHaha.08:31
BHSPitLappyI'm not kidding08:31
Sail_to_the_moonthats what i thought08:31
AWOSDevSail_to_the_moon if you have the source then just port it.08:31
BHSPitLappyhaha08:31
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, I know, it's funny becuase it's true!  :)08:31
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, that's not what the "source" means in the title, unfortunatelt08:32
AWOSDevOh08:32
BHSPitLappyunfortunately08:32
Sail_to_the_moonsource is the engine08:32
reduzBHSPitLappy, easy to say for people like you, that lives in a country where hard drives are cheap08:32
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BHSPitLappyironically closed-source XD08:32
Sail_to_the_moonit happens08:32
AWOSDevreduz, where do you live?08:32
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reduzAWOSDev, Argentina08:32
AWOSDevreduz, hmm I think Newegg might ship there...08:33
BHSPitLappyoh yes, hard drives are typically freely available in large bowls with candy at banks and pharmacies.08:33
reduzAWOSDev, newegg?08:33
BHSPitLappynewegg.com08:33
BHSPitLappy<308:33
AWOSDevreduz, popular Geeky site.08:33
AWOSDev:)08:33
BHSPitLappythem and tigerdirect08:33
Sail_to_the_moonpricewatch.com08:33
BHSPitLappypricewatch.com is a loser08:33
Sail_to_the_moonits worked for me08:34
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reduzBHSPitLappy, AWOSDev: No go, it's not that things are expensive here, but the country is heavily devaluated. So what is cheap for you, is expensive for me08:34
BHSPitLappyI don't trust it08:34
AWOSDevreduz, Ohhhhhhhhhhh08:34
AWOSDevreduz, oh okay08:34
AWOSDevreduz, then nvm :)08:34
BHSPitLappystill, I think you're SOL with that drive08:34
BHSPitLappyit's only going to get worse.08:35
reduzso, I want to instal ubuntu into this disk that has a few bad sectors but other than that has been running fine.. so.. how do I run badblocks in the ubuntu installer?08:35
Sail_to_the_moonwinex is cedega now? :(08:35
AWOSDevI had a hard drive once with only three bad sectors.08:35
AWOSDevNine months later, hold thing *literally* died.08:35
AWOSDevNo more files.08:35
AWOSDevBoom.08:35
AWOSDevGone.08:35
BHSPitLappy"once" is the keyword08:35
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AWOSDevbacked up, uh, about a year and a half prior08:35
JDStoneAWOSDev: don't feel too bad, I just lost 150GB of data about a week ago08:36
mneptonreduz: i attempted to move my server to another drive this weekend and got a ton of CRCcheck fails. i just trashed the drive. it's obviously not something to which i wanted to entrust my data.08:36
AWOSDevJDStone, noooooooo!  What happened?08:36
AWOSDevIn my case, power company.  Buzzzzzzz08:36
reduzAWOSDev, mnepton: this thing had the same bad sectors for 5 years, it really works fine08:36
AWOSDevthat's what caused the original three bas sectors.08:36
JDStonewell, I backed up my data, created the RAID 1 array and my data was still there, so I deleted the backup08:36
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JDStonethen in the morning, everything was gone08:36
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SpaceFrogI have a windows text file, how can i convert it so i can open it in Linux?08:36
Sail_to_the_moonreduz, dont feel bad i slicked 130GB of usefull stuff to give myself a crashcourse into linux08:36
BHSPitLappylol08:37
BHSPitLappyLesson 1, "sudo rm -rf /"08:37
AWOSDevTransformer blew on the street next to me - that caused the original three bad sectors.  then nine months later, poof gone.08:37
AWOSDevJDStone, oops!  :)08:37
Sail_to_the_moonlol08:37
JDStoneyep08:37
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy LOL08:37
JDStoneAWOSDev: that's right, oops08:37
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BHSPitLappySpaceFrog, uhh, double click on it?08:37
hastesaverSpaceFrog, good text editors should open it just fine (at least, Emacs does).08:38
AWOSDevSpaceFrog, you have to convert it?  News to me.08:38
SpaceFrogits a .reg file08:38
hastesaverSpaceFrog, you can use "fromdos" at the commandline, if that doesn't work08:38
AWOSDevKate, gedit, Emacs, vi, nano, anything.08:38
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BHSPitLappyoh, you said text file.08:38
BHSPitLappythat's a registry file08:38
BHSPitLappyyuck08:38
AWOSDevSpaceFrog, why do you want a .reg file on your Linux?  Trust me, it *WON'T* work.  :P08:38
BHSPitLappyjust follow that  guide08:38
SpaceFrogAWOSDev: Wine, man08:38
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, it's part of how you get CS2 to work in win08:38
AWOSDevSpaceFrog, ohhhhhhhh08:38
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AWOSDevSpaceFrog, on the command line, "wine regedit.exe"08:39
BHSPitLappyjust follow the guide exactly08:39
AWOSDevSpaceFrog, hopefully you can figure it out from there :)08:39
SpaceFrogthanks08:39
Sail_to_the_moonthis whole terminal thing is intriguing08:39
AWOSDevSail_to_the_moon, huh?08:40
reduzSail_to_the_moon, that's the best way i guess08:40
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reduzahh damned crap08:40
AWOSDevreduz, Windows again?08:40
AWOSDev:P08:40
reduzthe ubuntu live cd does not even detect the harddrive08:40
reduzbut has badblocks, hehe08:40
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AWOSDevreduz, please...you *need* a new hard drive.08:40
AWOSDevI mean don't you people have banks where you can get loans or something?08:41
Sail_to_the_moonhaha08:41
jackedI want to boot DSL on top of Ubuntu (think VM). is this possible? if so, where do I start?08:41
reduzAWOSDev, at extremely high interest rates? yes08:41
AWOSDevjacked, Qemu.08:41
AWOSDev!qemu08:41
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo08:41
reduzAWOSDev, which take away everything you have if you skip a month by accumulating interests? definitely08:41
jackedAWOSDev: thanks08:41
BHSPitLappywtf??? somebody in south carolina just called me, and then was silent, and hung up08:41
BHSPitLappyI don't know anybody in south carolina08:41
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Sail_to_the_moonme neither08:42
jackedBHSPitLappy: that was me.08:42
Sail_to_the_moonthats weird08:42
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AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, it was somebody you helped on #Ubuntu, you killed his computer :P08:42
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AWOSDevreduz, well I was just saying...you *need* a new hard drive.  No longer a question08:42
AWOSDev.08:42
reduzAWOSDev, but this one works fine08:42
BHSPitLappyjacked, :P08:42
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yiskahmay I ask a question?08:43
BHSPitLappyparty's over, Seveas is here08:43
reduzAWOSDev, has been doing it for the last 5 years. I had drives die without having badsectors previously08:43
jackedyiskah: you may08:43
BHSPitLappyyiskah, have you paid the question fee?08:43
jackedLOL08:43
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jacked5 dolla, me answer long-time08:43
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BHSPitLappylaunchpad seems to indicate that you have not paid.08:43
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AWOSDevI once had a lady call me, "is this whoever?"  No.  "what area code?"  I told her.  "oh I got it backwards, sorry!"   10 minutes later, same lady.  "is this whoever?"   Uh, no ma'am, you got me again.  "oh sorry!"08:43
AWOSDev:P08:43
BHSPitLappylol dyslexic08:44
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krautmoin08:44
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy yeah good point.08:44
Sail_to_the_mooni want to make a home brewery out of  water cooling kit08:44
BHSPitLappyhomebrewed water?08:44
jackedyiskah: we are kidding around. we'd be happy to help if we can... for free, of course08:44
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Sail_to_the_moonii was thinking beer08:44
yiskahOk I have a computer with an i810 video chip in it. The default ubuntu kernel install  says this. My problem is when I install the desktop gnome the only display resolution that comes up is 640x480. I am installing this for a friend and was wondering if there is a way to get that video chip to work with at least 800x60008:44
BHSPitLappySail_to_the_moon, do you even understand how to brew beer08:45
=== AWOSDev thinks we thorougly freaked him.
Sail_to_the_moonnot yet08:45
hastesaver!fixres08:45
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:45
jacked915resolution: install it08:45
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goofyim trying to remove totem and it wants me to remove ubuntu-desktop is that ok08:45
hastesaveryiskah, try the tips at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:45
AWOSDevyiskah, I'm happy to report I have my i810 at 1280x1024.08:45
jackedyiskah:  915resolution: install it08:45
AWOSDevgoofy yes.08:45
BHSPitLappyyes. 915resolution08:45
BHSPitLappyI just used it today08:45
BHSPitLappyfor that purpose08:45
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goofyok...i thought it ment the gui08:45
=== AWOSDev doesn't use 915resolution and his i810 works perfectly at any resolution.
yiskahouch. could hmmm someone send that to me in a private window. My screen is scrooling like crazy.08:46
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SpaceFrogBHSPitLappy: Well, i installed Photoshop fine but it closes after it starts.08:46
SpaceFrogonly stays open for 5 seconds08:46
BHSPitLappyyiskah, that's this channel, usually.08:46
reduzaaaaaarrrrrrrggggg08:46
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AWOSDevgoofy, no, ubuntu-desktop is the "meta"-package for the whole default installation.08:46
BHSPitLappyok seriously wt08:46
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BHSPitLappyI just got another weird call, "Private number"08:46
BHSPitLappybut I declined08:46
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, he's at 640x480.  It would scroll pretty fast for you if you had 640x480 :P08:47
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, hmm, stalker?08:47
BHSPitLappyha08:47
reduzwell i give up, i'm getting a knoppix for formatting this thing, then i hope i can install ubuntu and that ubuntu will NOT TOUCH the partitions i make08:47
jackedyiskah: you've been PM'ed08:47
BHSPitLappytake THAT, braino08:47
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AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, you did that?08:47
yiskahhmmm. I must not have irssi setup could people be quiet for someone to resend that info?  and then I will qit and have it on my screen?08:47
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BHSPitLappyreduz, you won't be able to format it.08:47
BHSPitLappyor, you'll have problems08:48
jackedyiskah:  915resolution: install it08:48
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, I'm just a badass08:48
reduzBHSPitLappy, I did it already with debian, so ubuntu should work fine08:48
jackedyou may have to enable universe repos08:48
reduzBHSPitLappy, if I *CAN* format it08:48
yiskahoh that is all? ok thank you.08:48
Sail_to_the_moonknoppix is handy, qtparted08:48
jackedyiskah: that's it08:48
jackedthen restart08:48
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BHSPitLappyjacked, wait, you just have to install the program and restart??08:48
BHSPitLappyI installed and ran the command with the resolution I wanted08:49
jackedBHSPitLappy: yeah08:49
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ianmacgregorIs it possible to hook up two monitors and have a DVD movie (MPlayer) playing on one and my desktop on the other?08:49
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jackedBHSPitLappy: used to have to configure... not anymore08:49
BHSPitLappyianmacgregor, it's difficult. what kind of video card08:49
jackedalthough, you can08:49
reduzi'd just make a partition over the area with the bad sectors, but it happens to be a few KB in the middle of the disk08:49
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ianmacgregorBHSPitLappy: I hadn't purchased that yet, didn't want to until I found out if it was even possible.08:50
blinkeris anyone here familiar with samba? I'm trying to set it up for access from windows xp08:50
BHSPitLappywell, since you have a choice, DON'T BUY ATI!!! get an nVidia.08:50
ianmacgregorBHSPitLappy: Waaay ahead of ya :) I only buy nvidia08:50
AWOSDevIs it "bash ATI" night?  Same fight happened few minutes ago on #ubuntu+108:51
BHSPitLappyeducated consumer FTW08:51
jackedblinker: have you looked at any of the tutorials on ubuntuforums.org, etc?08:51
virtual-stargazeblinker, Ubuntu does this out of the box08:51
ianmacgregorAye!08:51
jackedlots of info on how to set that up properly08:51
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, silly friend, EVERY night is bash ATI night!08:51
virtual-stargazeAt least, dapper drake did for me...08:51
=== AWOSDev has an ATI and kinda feels ashamed
BHSPitLappyyou should.08:51
=== AWOSDev feels worse :P
ianmacgregorhehe08:51
jackedblinker: vitual-stargaze is right... for basic config, should work by default08:52
goofywhat is sound recorder called in synaptic or is it something i cant uninstall08:52
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blinkerjacked: no, not yet. virtual-stargaze: then how do i access from win?08:52
AWOSDevgoofy, it's called, uh, sound-recorder?08:52
AWOSDev!info sound-recorder08:52
ubotusound-recorder: Direct-to-disk recording and play-back programs.. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.06-7 (dapper), package size 53 kB, installed size 180 kB08:52
virtual-stargazeAccess from win...haven't tried to set up for doing that yet.08:52
AWOSDevYep it's called sound-recorder08:52
jackedblinker: Places > Network Places08:52
goofyi didnt se it ...thanks any way08:52
BHSPitLappyianmacgregor, despite the fact that it would be off-topic, the people in #ubuntu-xgl generally have a better knowledge of video card-related things in ubuntu08:52
AWOSDevwith a *HYPEN* inbetween.08:52
jackederrr... Servers08:52
ianmacgregorgoofy: You can uninstall it, I did.08:52
virtual-stargazeI tend to access my win shared folders from linux more than the oher way around.08:53
ianmacgregorBHSPitLappy: Oh? Ok, thanks08:53
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BHSPitLappynp08:53
AWOSDevYou know what I just realised?08:53
BHSPitLappyyou need a new gfx card?08:53
AWOSDevNO!08:53
AWOSDevI mean yes.08:53
AWOSDevbut NO.08:53
ianmacgregorhehe08:54
AWOSDevI came in here at 1:08am wanting MIDI help...it's 2:53am now, and I've helped three people but still don't know anything about MIDI.08:54
=== mnepton has a router with 2 USB ports and 1 1394 port that automatically exposes any ext3 or NTFS drive plugged into them as SMB shares :)
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, it's impossible. PROBLEM SOLVED08:54
ianmacgregorAWOSDev: That tends to happen.08:54
BHSPitLappymnepton, that sounds awesome08:54
AWOSDevianmacgregor, happens *a lot* in my case.08:54
AWOSDevmnepton, where can I get one?  :)08:55
mneptonBHSPitLappy: it is, i assure you. :)08:55
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jackedAWOSDev: would be happy to help, but I know nothing about midi under linux.  if it's a general question, I might be able to help08:55
AWOSDevjacked, How do I get an external MIDI device to work under Linux?  oh...nvm08:55
mneptonAWOSDev: http://www.usr.com/products/networking/networking-product.asp?sku=USR820008:56
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, external device?? keyboard?08:56
AWOSDevYes.08:56
BHSPitLappyin like, noteedit or gscore or something?08:56
AWOSDevCasio LK-50 to be exact.08:56
AWOSDevUh no08:56
AWOSDevI just want to play back to my MPU-401 port.08:56
AWOSDev*play back*08:56
AWOSDevNo I have rosegarden08:56
AWOSDevthat's my other problem08:56
BHSPitLappywell, there's a 99% chance you're SOL08:57
BHSPitLappyis your soundcard's midi chip really better sounding than your casio's?08:57
jackedAWOSDev: hmm... this is a question I'd like to know the answer to08:57
AWOSDev[01:17]  <AWOSDev> Please, does anybody know how to fix a MIDI problem?  Depending on which application I run I get different errors.  KMid gives "another application may be using it" and rosegarden gives "open /dev/snd/seq failed: Permission denied" followed by "waiting for Sequencer to come up" endless times08:57
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy -- huh?08:57
SeveasAWOSDev, snd_seq module loaded?08:58
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy I want to play back to my Casio.08:58
jackedBHSPitLappy: huh?08:58
BHSPitLappyohh08:58
AWOSDevSeveas, you talk?  But you're a bot!?08:58
BHSPitLappyI thought you meant vice versa08:58
AWOSDevSeveas, yes.08:58
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SeveasAWOSDev, when you get that error: fuser /dev/snd/seq08:58
Seveasthen you can see which program has it open08:58
jackedAWOSDev: what soundcard are you using?08:58
BHSPitLappymy computer doesn't have MIDI output...08:58
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BHSPitLappyjust input08:59
BHSPitLappyI would really want to be able to do that08:59
BHSPitLappyuse my yamaha for playback08:59
AWOSDevESS Solo-1 ES193808:59
BHSPitLappymnepton, creatively sadistic tonight?08:59
mneptonBHSPitLappy: how is tonight different from any other? ;)08:59
BHSPitLappymnepton, in that I've never met you.09:00
AWOSDevSeveas, okay09:00
mneptonBHSPitLappy: it's not too late to run away and pretend all of this never happened :)09:00
AWOSDevOkay exact message:09:00
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BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, does your card have a midi out jack, or do you have some kind of joystick cable?09:01
BHSPitLappyor usb09:01
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, yes the MIDI/Game port.09:01
BHSPitLappyinteresting09:01
AWOSDevIt does play back to the piano in Windows so I do know it works.09:01
BHSPitLappymy midi/game port cable is only for inupt09:01
=== AWOSDev isn't going back just for that though
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BHSPitLappywell then you can probably just pipe it09:01
AWOSDevCould not open /dev/sequencer.  Probably there is another application using it.09:02
=== BHSPitLappy pretends to know what he's talking about
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, fuser it.09:02
AWOSDevfuser /dev/sequencer and /dev/snd/seq both output nothing.09:02
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=== mnepton pretends to understand what BHSPitLappy is talking about
BHSPitLappymnepton, then we've reached an understanding.09:02
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BHSPitLappyor, a lack thereof.09:02
=== AWOSDev pretends to understand what mnepton is saying about BHSPitLappy's not understanding the problem :) :) :) :)
hellslingerdoes anyone know if there is an apt source that has the xine and mplayer packages09:02
mneptonyes, that we are mutually unintelligible.09:02
BHSPitLappy\o/09:03
DtTvBUhhh.. Are there any file that contain the screen resolution of the current user?09:03
mneptonwooo! consenus!09:03
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DtTvBI wil try edit it.09:03
AWOSDevmnepton, are you from Wikipedia?  just asking...09:03
mneptonhellslinger: both should be in Uni/Multiverse09:03
atrophicIs there a graphical data modeling tool for linux?09:03
BHSPitLappyDtTvB, well, there's a setting in System>Preferences>Screen Resolution09:03
DtTvBI know.09:03
AWOSDevatrophic, like Visio?  or like Crystal Reports?09:03
mneptonAWOSDev: no, it's worse than that. i'm from Canonical. :)09:03
DtTvBBut I want to change it to 1680x105009:04
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AWOSDevmnepton, even though I can't really say Wikipedia is "bad", I must LOL at that anyway :P09:04
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hellslingermnepton: I see entries in the /etc/apt/source.list of universe, is there a multiverse option?09:04
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BHSPitLappyDtTvB, i810-based graphics card?09:04
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AWOSDevHehe09:05
DtTvBi810?09:05
mneptonhellslinger: enable them via your GUI package manager. easier, and less likely to do Something Bad(tm)09:05
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, he wasn't the one with the i810.09:05
hellslingermnepton: oh there they are *doh*09:05
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BHSPitLappyunoptimistic > pessimistic09:05
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DtTvBI don't know. That's why I wanted to try editing it.09:05
atrophicAWOSDev, sure?  I don't know about Crystal Reports, but I'm sure Visio could pull off what I'm thinking of.  The windows tool I used was embadarco studio09:05
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, I know.09:05
AWOSDevYiskah was09:05
AWOSDevoh okay09:05
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jackedAWOSDev: this may be your answer  --->  http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ESS+Technology&card=3-d.&chip=ES1938+%28Solo-1%29%2C+ES1946+%28Solo-1E%29&module=es193809:05
Wazmhi09:05
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BHSPitLappyDtTvB, all I know of is /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but that's not user-specific. you can look there and see what driver you're using, though, in the "Device" section.09:06
AWOSDevatrophic, Crystal Reports is like data mining, prolly not what you're looking for...I have a tool like Visio, lemme go find it09:06
DtTvBOK.09:06
BHSPitLappyif it's i810, then download 915resolution09:06
AWOSDevjacked, "Could not connect to host alsa-project.org"09:06
atrophicDtTvB, /etc/X11/xorg.conf has all the available resolutions for your video card/monitor.  Be aware that just because you change it in there doesn't mean your hardware will support it.09:06
DtTvBOK.09:06
DtTvBI messed it up already. :P09:06
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jackedAWOSDev: wow.  the site went down in the last 2 minutes09:07
atrophicAWOSDev, that's what I thought Crystal Reports was.  I just need a database visualization tool, essentially.  Where I can see tables, their fields, and their relations to other tables.  I don't care if it has any ability to export the model to SQL or anything, I'm just going to use it for planning purposes.09:07
jackednow THAT is bad luck09:07
jackedlol09:07
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AWOSDevatrophic, the Visio-like tool is called Blender, it's in the main repo.09:08
atrophicDtTvB, you can reconfigure your xorg.conf file by running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' I believe09:08
AWOSDevjacked, :(09:08
BHSPitLappyblender is a 3d-modelling tool...09:08
atrophicAWOSDev, great, thanks for the info09:08
AWOSDevatrophic, oh........09:08
jackedAWOSDev: except, I've saved the page for you... will send it09:08
AWOSDevatrophic, not what you're looking for then09:08
BHSPitLappylol09:08
=== virtual-stargaze curses Microsoft, Intel, and ACPI
atrophicAWOSDev, snaps09:08
=== BHSPitLappy sure hopes virtual-stargaze is God
jackedAWOSDev: your card requires a module to send09:08
AWOSDevatrophic kind of like SQL Server's relationship thingy09:09
AWOSDev?09:09
AWOSDevjacked, ahhh09:09
DtTvBOK.09:09
jackedand this page tells you how to do that...09:09
fyrestrtratrophic: dbdesigner4 ... fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/09:09
jackedone sec...09:09
goofyany sugestions for avi playback09:09
=== AWOSDev curses Microsoft, Intel and ACPI -- becuase he's an OS developer and it's very sucky to develop for.
atrophicAWOSDev, yes, that's similar to what I want too.09:09
BHSPitLappygoofy, I open everything in gmplayer.09:09
atrophicfyrestrtr, thanks09:09
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goofyalright thanks09:09
AWOSDevgoofy, VLC FTW IMHO.09:10
AWOSDevThat's the most acronyms I've used in a sentence not-on-purpose in my whole life :) :) :)09:10
BHSPitLappyVLC ftw also, but it doesn't always work.09:10
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DaemonikBHSPitLappy, Hell yes VLC for the win.09:10
BHSPitLappymplayer for the more win09:10
=== AWOSDev is around people with sense, yay!
BHSPitLappysometimes09:10
BHSPitLappydepending on what you need09:10
AWOSDevmplayer = DVD, VLC = everything else :)09:11
DaemonikBHSPitLappy, We should damn proprietary codecs.09:11
goofyvlc isnt playing correctly i get this green line at the top and color shifting09:11
BHSPitLappysometimes vlc can't play something, or it screws it up.09:11
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BHSPitLappymplayer for dvd? wth09:11
fyrestrtrVLC for the win, mplayer for the "Finish Him" combo-with-extra-points style win.09:11
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BHSPitLappylol09:11
atrophicVLC with VC1 reference library for the win09:11
DaemonikBHSPitLappy, I'm going to lobby websites to offer Theora along with wmv and mov I hope you and others do too.09:12
hastesaverwhy would I want to use vlc over mplayer, BTW? (IOW, what am I missing?)09:12
atrophicVLC just isn't as good without support for wmv9, since so many sites use that now09:12
hastesaveror over xine, for that matter...09:12
BHSPitLappyhastesaver, a gui, pretty much.09:12
jackedAWOSDev: I'm trying to send you that file...09:12
BHSPitLappyand vlc does a lot with streaming09:12
goofythanks everyone09:12
BHSPitLappyyou can stream just about anything, any way you want09:12
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BHSPitLappydid what09:13
fyrestrtrmplayer is the McGuyver of media players. You can take it and do things never possible with the command line.09:13
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, yes DVD with Mplayer, I use it exclusively.09:13
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hastesaverAWOSDev, I use mplayer exclusively, but I must say mplayer doesn't support dvd menus. Use xine09:14
fyrestrtratrophic: is dbdesigner what you were after? :)09:14
AWOSDevhastesaver, really?  didn't know that, okay thanks :)09:14
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BHSPitLappyI use vlc for DVDs09:15
atrophicfyrestrtr, I'm still distracted, but the page is up and I'm about to read into it09:15
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AWOSDevVLC for DVD?09:15
AWOSDevNeat!!!!!!!09:15
BHSPitLappygmplayer for casual double-click video files09:15
BHSPitLappyyeah... with menus09:15
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AWOSDevCoolness!09:15
hastesaverDouble click? I haven't started nautilus in months! :)09:15
AWOSDevI told ya VLC FTW!09:16
BHSPitLappyalthough vlc doesn't understand looping and stuff09:16
BHSPitLappylol09:16
jackedvirtual-stargaze: what have you tried?09:16
BHSPitLappyit will play the Menu's animation once, then it will start with the movie09:16
BHSPitLappyit thinks it's just a playlist :P09:16
BHSPitLappybut you can click on buttons09:16
BHSPitLappyworkingly09:16
jackedvirtual-stargaze: there are config settings that you may have to look at... let me refresh my memory and I'll get back to you...09:16
virtual-stargazejacked: Screensaver/system idle settings, power settings, and googling ineffectually...09:17
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy hehe :)09:17
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virtual-stargazeAnd cursing at Microsoft, Intel, and ACPI from time to time...09:17
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fyrestrtrwhy curse Intel?09:17
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, what's REALLY cool is that you can go to Open File in VLC, click on a .ISO, and it will play it.09:18
BHSPitLappyno mounting or anything.09:18
BHSPitLappybacked up dvd's ftw09:18
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, really?  Dang......09:18
AWOSDevBacked up Music CD FTW09:18
AWOSDevfinally a use for my 100GB HD :P09:18
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BHSPitLappyhmm never tried that with music cd's09:18
BHSPitLappyI meant dvd09:18
Geoffrey2how can I force apt to esentially reinstall an application without removing it, just overwriting the existing files?09:19
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BHSPitLappywhy the hell wouldn't you just rip the cds, AWOSDev09:19
BHSPitLappyyou monkey09:19
AWOSDevHehe09:19
BHSPitLappyGeoffrey2, it's easily doable in synapcit09:19
BHSPitLappysynaptic...09:19
sc0ttyhello09:19
=== AWOSDev honestly hasn't figured out how to rip yet
BHSPitLappyI don't know about apt commands09:19
AWOSDev!language09:19
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:19
AWOSDevGeoffrey2 good question.09:19
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, stick a sock in it :P09:19
AWOSDevHehe09:19
BHSPitLappysc0tty, hello09:20
AWOSDevHello sc0tty.09:20
fyrestrtrGeoffrey2: sudo aptitude install --reinstall somepackagename09:20
BHSPitLappyman09:20
Geoffrey2BHSPitLappy, ok, thanks...if I reinstalled Firefox, would I likely lose my bookmarks, or would they still be there?09:20
BHSPitLappyI smell like Wendy's09:20
AWOSDevHehe09:20
sc0ttyI am having a strange problem with my multimedia keys (the sound control ones)09:20
AWOSDevwork there?09:20
jackedvirtual-stargaze: you there?09:20
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BHSPitLappyGeoffrey2, they should all stay in a hidden folder in your home folder09:20
BHSPitLappyGeoffrey2, if you wanted to be extra safe, you could back up that folder09:20
sc0ttyI happen to have 2 sound cards, a builtin one I don't use and a PCI one09:20
foureight84is anyone here using wicrawl on ubuntu?09:20
AWOSDevGeoffrey2 they would be in your home folder so they should be fine.09:20
jackedvirtual-stargaze: have you looked at your laptop-mode.conf file?09:21
mneptonBHSPitLappy: Wendy's *what*? >:)09:21
foureight84i can't get it to compile for some reason09:21
BHSPitLappyI personally use Google Browser Sync, so it keeps my bookmarks etc09:21
BHSPitLappymnepton, saw that one coming ;)09:21
AWOSDevWicrawl?09:21
sc0ttyand I don't why, but one time, the sound keys control the volume on the builtin card (so having no effect on my sound )09:21
AWOSDevwhats a Wicrawl?09:21
BHSPitLappyWendy's Old Fashioned Hamburgers!09:21
sc0ttyand sometimes they control the PCI card, which is what I want09:21
AWOSDevWendy's French Fries FTW!09:21
mneptonBHSPitLappy: is that what she's calling it now?09:21
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Geoffrey2for some reason, the web page I design looks just fine under IE, Firefox, or Opera for Windows, but looks like total garbage in Firefox for Linux....09:22
sc0ttyis there a way to set which audio resource should receive these controls ?09:22
jackedvirtual-stargaze: ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_WHEN_LID_CLOSED=1     --> there are more settings to check... let me know if you're getting this...09:22
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mneptonGeoffrey2: URL?09:22
avagant_the_awakWell look at that.09:22
AWOSDevPlease nobody flame me09:22
Geoffrey2www.reformpa.net09:22
AWOSDevFirefox sucks use Konqueror09:22
BHSPitLappymnepton, you, sir, are an excellent supplier of predictably obnoxious replies.09:22
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BHSPitLappylol09:22
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Zairekonq sux09:22
foureight84i'm trying to compile wicrawl and i keep getting this error anyone know what's going on with it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26975/09:22
mneptonGeoffrey2: it's fairly certain that if Opera renders it correctly then your code is standardfs-compliant. Opera is *realy* standards-conforming.09:22
Lam_Geoffrey2: font's offset slightly.  hit ctrl+- (minus sign) and you'll see09:23
BHSPitLappyGeoffrey2, it's the same renderer, on any platfoem.09:23
mneptonBHSPitLappy: it's my super-power :/09:23
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Lam_Geoffrey2: no idea why firefox does that sometimes09:23
BHSPitLappyplatform, even09:23
BHSPitLappymnepton, super?09:23
BHSPitLappy...09:23
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mneptonBHSPitLappy: the lies i tell myself to avoid "down, not across"09:24
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BHSPitLappyI'm so confused09:24
mneptonthink "slitting your wrists"09:25
BHSPitLappymnepton, find a way to keep busy... read every page of xkcd.com09:25
atrophicfyrestrtr, it looks better than I was even hoping for, thanks a million09:25
BHSPitLappylol09:25
BHSPitLappymnepton, it's not across the river, it's not down the highway, it's through the jugular!09:25
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AWOSDevBHSPitLappy, heck just tell him to read every page on http://en.wikipedia.org/09:25
AWOSDev:)09:26
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, I recommend doing the xkcd thing09:26
BHSPitLappyit was the best time I've ever spent09:26
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AWOSDevWhat is xkcd?09:26
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hid3Hello everyone. I need some advice. Which filesystem would give the best performance for ide disk based ftp server, crowded with ~600 mB .iso files? I'm thinking about ext2 or ext3... Any ideas? Thanks.09:27
mnepton"Non ex transverso sed deorsum." ;)09:27
Daemonikhid3, If it's over FTP it doesn't matter. The files are large so it doesn't matter.09:27
mneptonhid3: ext3 is your best bet09:27
jackedhid3: I would say ext209:27
Daemonikhid3, Use ext3 because it's journaled.09:27
Healothid3 NTFS09:27
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AWOSDevNTFS?09:28
Daemonikhid3, If you use ext2 and the system goes down for whatever reason, it'll take a while to bring it back up.09:28
jackedhid3: as long as it is JUST ISO files09:28
AWOSDevhuh?09:28
mneptonhid3: the primary benefit of ext3 is that is has journalling and a failry feature-complete set of tools to09:28
mnepton-to09:28
jackedHealot: lol09:28
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foureight84i'm trying to compile wicrawl and i keep getting this error anyone know what's going on with it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26975/09:29
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hid3Thanks.09:29
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hid3will choose ext3 :)09:29
mneptonfoureight84: what is wicrawl? an app to find 802.11 networks?09:29
foureight84yea09:30
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mneptonfoureight84: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome09:30
mneptondone.09:30
foureight84this is like kismet09:30
foureight84it's a sniffer09:30
mneptonwell, good luck then.09:31
foureight84haha thanks09:31
AWOSDevfoureight84: I think you need the OpenSSL devel package09:31
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foureight84how do i install that?09:31
mneptonbut "how do i install this app that lets me attempt to compromise other people's security?" is not somehting high on my list of questions needing an answer ;)09:31
AWOSDevno clue :P09:31
holycowhid3, also if you use ext2, i guarantee that if you loose power your file system will become corrupted09:31
AWOSDevholycow not true!09:31
jasper`mnepton, that's rather contemptuous of you, to presume his intentions are unlawful or unjust.09:32
holycowabsoeffinlutely true09:32
holycowyou want to loose data .. .use ext209:32
hid3ext2 is bad and evil as I see..09:32
atrophicloose != lose09:32
holycowguaranteed :)09:32
AWOSDevI lost power many times when I used ext2 and my data was fine!09:32
mneptonjasper`: i suspect that someone with a legitimate need to sniff wireless networks would also have some experience debugging make output.09:33
foureight84hmm openssl is already installed09:33
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foureight84i just wanna see the program09:33
holycowext3 doesn't guarantee prevention of data loss from fs corruption, however, simply don't use ext2 :) just some friendly advice from those of us that have had the experience09:33
atrophicfoureight84, apt-cache search openssl, then look for one that ends with 'dev'.  There may be a readme or something with wicrawl that details prerequisites09:33
richard__You got lucky - robustness was the main reason ext2 was replaced09:33
optimistici used to use cain and able to get into my parents wireless network09:33
AWOSDevfoureight84: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev09:34
AWOSDevtry that09:34
atrophicfoureight84, openssl isn't necessarily what you need, you need the development package for openssl09:34
jackedholycow: interesting. didn't realize there was that much of a difference.09:34
foureight84hmm okay i'm gonna give it a try. thanks09:34
AWOSDev4884: np09:34
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foureight84well this program is pretty convenient because it can test wireless nodes for internet connectivity without me having to physically connect to it09:35
foureight84hmm well thanks for the help09:36
AWOSDevNP09:36
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jackedholycow: can you explain the mechanics of the difference in data-loss between ext2/ext3 any further?09:37
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AWOSDevJacked you still there?09:37
AWOSDevOops my question is now irrelevant.09:37
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jackedAWOSDev: 1 second after?  yeah09:37
jackedhehe09:37
snoopanyone know which program I can use in ubuntu to install torrent files?09:38
jackedas is my answer09:38
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mneptonsnoop: install, or download?09:38
jackedv-stargazer: did you get my answers to your question?09:38
AWOSDevsnoop, Ktorrent to download.09:38
AWOSDevjacked, that ALSA howto didn't help.09:38
v-stargazerJacked, nope.09:38
jackedAWOSDev: sorry to hear that.  :(09:38
mneptonAWOSDev: he said Ubuntu. i doubt he wants all the KDE libs just for a torrent solution.09:38
holycowjacked, ext2 the basic difference is ext3 has journalling ext2 doesn't.  on an unclean exit a journals fs can at least attempt to recover data and attaing fs integrity.  non journaled fs's cannot do anything beyond fsck types of tools09:38
v-stargazerMy ghost oughta be pinged out soon...09:39
holycowmy first experience with redhat was on ext2 ... i happened to hit the power button because as a windows user you know your tought not to think and bam, first experience with linux resulted in a totally hosed install09:39
snoopto download mnepton09:39
holycowof course coupled with not having a clue at that time  ... didn't leave hell of an impression :)09:39
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snoopawodkev: I'm using gnome, ktorrent is for kde09:40
kupesoftshould i put the 32bit version of linux on my athlon 64-chip computer.  I hate not having flash, etc09:40
jackedholycow: i understand that, but, generally speaking, it shouldn't be an issue if you're using it as a storage device for large files, right?  (that's what I had been talking about)09:40
snoopawosdev09:40
mneptonsnoop: BitTorrent is pre-installed and can be added to the exisitng menus with A La Carte. i prefer BitTornado as it has nicer options. "sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui"09:40
kupesoftwill it be that much slower?09:40
Zairewhere are the ssh logs in kubuntu I kinda forgot lol09:40
AWOSDevsnoop, it will work but alright.09:40
holycow*cough* which part of non journaled fs systems shouldn't be used?09:40
jackedvirtual-stargaze: have you looked at your laptop-mode.conf file?09:40
AWOSDevZaire, /var/log?09:40
holycowis not clear i mean09:40
Zairethx09:41
v-stargazerI've managed to find it, but cannot save changes09:41
snoopmnepton: hmm how about Utorrent?09:41
kupesoftwill me install the 32bit version of ubuntu on my 64bit computer be that bad?  I want to have flash, java applets, w32codec support, etc09:41
kupesoft*installing09:41
mneptonsnoop: Windows-only09:41
holycowall devices run the risk of power failure, if the fsystem doesn't provide mechanics to minimize the impact of that ... how can it not be an issue regardless of use?09:41
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snoopmnepton: maybe I can install it with wine09:41
mneptonkupesoft: i do that all the time. just be sure to get the k7 kernel and the k7 restricted modules.09:41
mneptonsnoop: why would you install an entire API emulator just for an app that has equally decent counterparts in Linux?09:42
kupesoftmnepton: How do I make sure of that?09:42
mneptonkupesoft: you can get them via Synaptic09:42
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snoopcause uttorrent works best?09:42
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mneptonsnoop: "best" is relative. and you're in no position to judge that, as you haven't even *tried* Linux clients.09:43
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Healotposition: absolute09:44
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mneptonv-stargazer: sudo gedit /path/to/file.name09:44
timhaughtonAnyone know how to set the auto nick-complete character in XChat-Gnome?09:44
AWOSDevv-stargazer, gsudo gedit /etc/wherever09:44
v-stargazerAh, finally my ghost pings out...09:45
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julianwhat are some must have apps?09:46
HealotTab09:46
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jackedholycow: um, okay. i think we're on the same wavelength here, except -- as far as I understand it -- storage partitions/drives with large files run much lower risks of corruption during power loss than partitions/drives being constantly modified (like root, etc)09:46
holycowv-stargazer, if you are registered on freenode you can kline your nick of course09:46
AWOSDevjulian, my list includes: Kdevelop, Klickety, Konversation, Konqueror, and most of all, KATE!09:46
timhaughtonHealot: Cheers :)09:46
holycowjacked, the issue is, is there a difference between one write and a nother?09:46
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holycowtechnically no09:46
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julianwats klickety09:47
holycowif your hd goes down during a write ... expect problems09:47
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AWOSDevjulian: Strategy Game.09:47
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holycowtrust me on this, if anything can go wrong, it will go wrong especially on drives you 'expect' nothing to go wrong on09:47
holycow:)09:47
mneptonAWOSDev: please stop recommending KDE solutions as a first solution on #ubuntu. most users here are GNOME users, and have no need for all the KDE libs just to run an app that probably has a GNOME counterpart.09:47
AWOSDevholycow: 100% Correct!09:47
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Healotholy cow!09:47
juliancool09:48
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RichardCraniumhow can I tell if my disk is a 62 bit or 32 bit ubuntu cd?09:48
AWOSDevRichardCranium on the back of the CD case it says09:48
mneptonheh, funny nick :)09:48
AWOSDevat the bottom09:48
AWOSDeve.g.:09:48
RichardCraniumwhat a funny guy09:49
richard__Rich: see if it works on a 32 bit computer?09:49
RichardCraniumim talking about a downloaded and burned iso09:49
jackedholycow: understood. we are on the same wavelength... I'm playing the statical game a little more recklessly though.  :P09:49
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fyrestrtrRichardCranium: depends what iso you downloaded.09:49
mneptonRichardCranium: what version did you download?09:49
UberpussyCool 62bit linux....... ;)09:49
holycowjacked, why tho? ext3 is free, better tasting, more filling09:49
holycowalso09:49
AWOSDevThis Mac Edition will run on modern G3, G4 and G5 computers, including iBooks and Powerbooks.           This 64-bit PC edition will run on AMD64 or EM64T based computers (e.g. Athlon 64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon).09:49
HealotRichardCranium:you cant; coz there isnt any 62-bit releases :(09:49
holycowyou can upgrade to ext3 from ext2 without reformatting09:49
holycowhowever09:49
jackedholycow: slower09:49
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holycowone always recommends backing up09:50
holycowjacked, lol whatever09:50
AWOSDevmnepton, me = funny nick?09:50
RichardCraniumcmon now be a bit more typo friendly09:50
mneptonAWOSDev: no, RichardCranium09:50
holycowyour NEVER used hd being SLOWER are mutually exclusive properties09:50
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fyrestrtrplease take hdd and filesystem discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic09:50
holycowregular users always tell me a bout how jfs is slower than xfs which is slower than reiser09:50
holycowbut you know what?09:50
AWOSDevI want a 62-bit Linux!!!  :)09:50
holycowthere isn't a single user in this room that will ever notice the dif09:50
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defryskworks fine09:51
RichardCraniumanyhow - i got it i had to check /dists/dapper/main on the cd09:51
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mneptonholycow: don;t be so hasty to say such things. :)09:51
defryskand very reliable09:51
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jackedholycow: we were talking about an FTP server full of ISO's... that suggests to me a drive that is being accessed constantly, but written to rarely09:51
holycowmnepton, i'd be willing to put money on it but ya never know :)09:51
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holycowjacked, giving ya a bit of a hard time :) all good09:52
jackedholycow: no worries.  hehe09:52
mneptonholycow: one of the installations we support is a 250 node HPC cluster doing cancer research. the FS performance on that will be noticeable. ;)09:52
holycowmnepton, well perhaps i was hasty09:52
holycow:)09:52
mnepton:)09:52
AWOSDevmnepton, really?  I saw that on NBC.09:53
jasper`Cancer research is one beautiful scam.09:53
holycowmnepton, what do you guys use ... xfs/jfs/other?09:53
AWOSDevthe NBC Nightly News, they had a story about that, this guy had prostate cancer and their using supercomputers to decode his blood.09:53
RichardCraniumjasper`, stfu09:53
AWOSDevNow now, we're all entitled to our opinion.09:53
AWOSDevhmm09:54
armstrong81Ive installed ubuntu twice now, due to a graphics card switch, the first install my ipod would be mounted when plugged in. Now with the second install I plug it in and it says do not disconnect, but no mount in ubuntu. Any ideas?09:54
mneptonholycow: it's not our installation, but a customer's09:54
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mneptonholycow: and they use ext3, iirc. simply because the toolset for ext3 is so much better than for anything else.09:54
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holycowmnepton, *nod*09:55
holycowhard to backup a 250 node cluster09:55
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holycow>_>09:55
mneptonfsck + Reiser = weekend at the office after which sysadmins switch back to ext309:55
mikedep333hey, I just upgraded from dapper to edgy and now I just see a blank screen during startup09:56
jackedmnepton: very interesting.09:56
mikedep333is there a way to restore either the boot messages or the graphic?09:56
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mikedep333I'm guessing I would dpkg-reconfigure something09:56
holycowmnepton, i've been happy with reiser but yes ext3 tools are better09:56
jackedmikedep333: problem with xorg.conf is my guess09:56
holycowof course, hans being accused of some very naughty things don't bode well for the future of the fs09:57
fyrestrtrmikedep333: edgy support is next door at #ubuntu+109:57
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mneptonmikedep333: afaik there are no boot messages displayed in the GUI loader in Upstart09:57
mikedep333jacked: this is before x.org loads09:57
mikedep333oh09:57
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mneptonholycow: careful about swityching away from Reiser, though. if Hans gets mad at you .... ;)09:57
armstrong81Has anyone had any problems with Dapper not auto mounting an iPod?09:57
fyrestrtrarmstrong81: buy me an ipod and I'll figure it out for you.09:58
holycowmnepton, that mean09:58
holycow>_<09:58
armstrong81;)09:58
BHSPitLappyhha09:58
BHSPitLappymnepton, ...09:58
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v-stargazerjacked: Anything else I need to do besides modifying the laptop-mode.conf?09:58
BHSPitLappyarmstrong81, yes, me. any removable media, to be exact.09:58
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jackedmikedep333: um... can you access the logs from another install?  (is it a dual boot machine, if not, you may want to boot up the live CD and take a look at your logs to see what the problem is)09:59
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armstrong81any tips? Ive had a previous install of dapper and everything worked great, now not so much. Also on the first install all my drives would appear on my desktop, not this install, I didnt change any options so im pretty confused by it09:59
jackedjacked: make sure sleep is enabled, of course... (either in that file or in acpi-support09:59
jacked)09:59
jackederrr...09:59
jackedv-stargazer: make sure sleep is enabled.... blah blah10:00
v-stargazerTalking to yourself again, jacked?10:00
jackedyup, mad as a hatter10:00
AWOSDevHehe10:00
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jackedI'm up WAY to early... you have to realize it's 5am here10:00
jackedlol10:00
jackedto=too10:01
AWOSDev4am here :)10:01
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fyrestrtrarmstrong81: have you upgraded it yet?10:01
mneptontalking to yourself is fine. it's when arguments start between your various personalities that you may have problems.10:01
fyrestrtr11 AM here10:01
v-stargazerjacked, I would assume that a restart is needed...and it's only 1 am here...10:01
armstrong81yea all auto upgrades as well ive enabled all repositories10:01
AWOSDevjacked, wouldn't that be up to late?10:01
AWOSDev*too10:01
mneptonjacked: you in the maritimes?10:01
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jackedv-stargazer: that's the easiest way, yeah10:01
jackedAWOSDev: no, up early, believe it or not10:02
v-stargazerbrb10:02
jackedmnepton: yes10:02
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AWOSDevjacked: nope.  For me, too late :)10:02
jackedmnepton: NB at the moment... but changes by the week10:02
=== AWOSDev waves from Florida.
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holycowthats one hell of a wave10:02
AWOSDevs/Florida/Flori-duhhhhhhhh10:02
mneptonit's just after lunch on my schedule :/10:02
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holycowwow, canuckians :)10:03
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AWOSDevYeah that's what I was thinking.10:03
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mneptonholycow: i'm not Canadian, i'm Quebecois. ;)10:03
mnepton*sigh*10:03
armstrong81haha10:03
holycowmnepton, i beg to differ mon ami :)10:03
AWOSDevHehe10:04
Zairegot a guy on the line in mysql help but need to know version of mysql-server10:04
jackednow if only the world was flat and I had better eyes...10:04
Zairehow do I get the version in cli?10:04
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AWOSDevapt-cache info mysql-server?10:04
RichardCraniumwhich would give me better performance/stability 64 bit ubuntu or 32 bit gentoo10:04
Zairethx10:04
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AWOSDevno not info10:04
AWOSDevapt-cache show mysql-server10:04
AWOSDevsorry10:04
Ademan!vga10:05
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:05
AWOSDev5.0.21-3ubuntu1 on my server FYI.10:05
mneptonZaire: there are various versions available. you need to specify MySQL4 or MySQL5 or whetever. apt-cache search mysql10:05
jackedmnepton: I think you read the article wrong.  the money is where you CAME from10:05
Ademan!lcd10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:05
Ademan!anything10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:05
Ademan:-)10:05
holycowmnepton, cool beans10:05
mnepton!ademan_being_actually_funny10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ademan_being_actually_funny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:05
mneptonme neither, ubotu10:06
mnepton>;)10:06
JDStonehow do I change my FQDN in Ubuntu server?10:06
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Zairethx got it lol10:06
defrysk!xorg10:06
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:06
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armstrong81This ipod thing is driving me nuts, the ipod recognizes thats its plugged in, but ubuntu doesnt see it, could it possibly be a permission thing? There is no folder in /media is that auto created?10:06
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jasper`JDStone, edit /etc/hosts10:07
JDStone!dnshostname10:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dnshostname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:07
JDStonethanks jasper`10:07
AWOSDev!dns10:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:07
mneptonarmstrong81: is this iPod formatted FAT32 or HFS+?10:07
jackedarmstrong81: format for windows10:07
jasper`JDStone, format is: IP   FQDN  ALIASES10:07
armstrong81it is10:07
JDStonethanks :)10:07
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fyrestrtrJDStone: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts10:07
bestadvocatehey10:08
jackedarmstrong81: format... are you sure?  (parted will tell you)10:08
fyrestrtrarmstrong81: type 'mount'10:08
fyrestrtrarmstrong81: see if its mounted.10:08
armstrong81this same ipod has been used on this same computer with the same version of ubuntu, the first time worked perfect, the second time not only does the ipod not mount but also my drives arnt on my desktop. what causes the drives to appear on the desktop10:08
jackedum... that too10:08
JDStonefyrestrtr: /etc/hostname just contains my hostname 'server'10:08
jacked:P10:08
fyrestrtrJDStone: yes, so change it if you need to change it. FQDN includes hostname :)10:09
JDStoneI just need to change the FQDN10:09
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JDStoneor the domain, rather10:09
JDStonenot the hostname10:09
bestadvocateI'm trying to backup a couple hundred gigabites of files to an external harddrive.  but the when I just transfer files normally Nautilus seems to corrupt a lot of files.  Is there a safe way to copy files to my external HD?10:09
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JDStonejasper`: sweet, that worked, thanks10:10
mneptonbestadvocate: rsync10:10
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jasper`JDStone, now, ready for your next lesson?10:10
armstrong81http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26978/10:10
jackedarmstrong81: sudo mkdir /media/ipod-manual; mount -t vfat /dev/sda (or whatever) /media/ipod-manual10:11
JDStonejasper`: shoot!10:11
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bestadvocatemnepton, thanks I'm going to go rtm10:11
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armstrong81jacked, what would the usb be? is that sda?10:11
jackedarmstrong81: yeah, it's not mounted.  try what I said10:11
mneptonbestadvocate: i can give you the command you want to save time, and you can read while the backup occurs ...10:11
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jasper`JDStone, you asked "how do I change my FQDN in Ubuntu server?" At www.google.com I entered, "FQDN ubuntu server" and the 2nd webpage was: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27165810:12
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bestadvocatemnepton that would be awesome10:12
fyrestrtrbestadvocate: what filesystem is on the external drive?10:12
jackedarmstrong81: um... hit tab a couple of times after getting as far as /dev/sd   and see what comes up10:12
bestadvocatefat32, it needs to work on windows10:12
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mneptonbestadvocate: mount points/dir names of the origin and destination?10:12
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jackedarmstrong81: if just sda, then that's your ipod (most likely)10:13
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bestadvocatemnepton, one sec, plugging it in and looking up10:13
AWOSDevMIDI?!?!?!10:13
AWOSDevHere's what I know:10:14
armstrong81jaked: sda is not a valid block device10:14
jackedarmstrong81: let me know what devices come up10:14
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jasper`sda110:14
jasper`?10:14
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AWOSDevI tried the ALSA howto to no avail.  I have a hardware synth that works in Windows 95 and Red Hat Linux 9 (kernel 2.2).  It does not play with /dev/sequencer or /dev/snd/seq.10:14
agutiermHello all: the ntpdate give me the time on EDT, how I can obtain the hour in CEST format ?10:14
mneptonagutierm: Central European?10:15
agutiermyes10:15
bestadvocatemnepton I forget exactly how to look up device name but it mounts at /media/SEA_DISK10:15
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jackedarmstrong81: yes, it would have to be sda1, if it is indeed sda (may be sdb or sdc)10:15
AWOSDev@time europe/central10:15
agutiermI have the timezone file with Europe/Madrid10:15
ice63can get Blackbox from ubuntu sources to install it ?10:15
AWOSDev@time Europe/Madrid10:15
UbugtuCurrent time in Europe/Madrid: October 16 2006, 10:15:4210:15
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mneptonagutierm: what city are you in?10:15
agutiermAWOSDev, on wich file ?10:15
agutiermMadrid10:15
AWOSDevI don't know, I used the bugbot.10:16
AWOSDevmnepton may be able to help you more, agutierm.10:16
mneptonagutierm: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid /etc/timezone10:16
mneptonbestadvocate: what about the source of the backup?10:17
agutiermntpdate hora.rediris.es10:17
agutierm16 Oct 04:16:54 ntpdate[7138] : adjust time server 130.206.3.166 offset 0.011380 sec10:17
jackedAWOSDev: have you checked the links at the bottom of that page I sent you?10:17
agutierm:?10:17
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thoreauputiczePlaza: spamming in /msg is not nice10:17
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mneptonagutierm: after copying that file you may need to reboot.10:17
agutiermok10:17
v-stargazerjacked, no effect. backlight remains lit, though screen is otherwise blank. I need it to turn the backlight off.10:17
AWOSDevjacked, no none of them looked helpful.10:17
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bestadvocateits /media/hdb1/home/bestadvocate/(folder 1 and folder 2)10:18
JDStonejasper`: isn't a DHCP client supposed to get it's dns domain name from the DHCP server?10:18
jackedv-stargazer: put the contents of the two files I suggested that you modify into pastebin.ca10:18
bestadvocatei renamed the folders 1 and 210:18
armstrong81there is only one sda, and it doesnt work, where would I see the other devices?10:19
armstrong81ok this is weird, I went to dev/disk/by-id and there is a usb-Apple_iPod_..... there10:19
armstrong81and its a link, with the target /dev/sda10:19
v-stargazerTWO files?10:19
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armstrong81weird10:19
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jasper`JDStone, /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf should have something like `option domain-name "internal.example.org";`10:19
bestadvocatewhoops I forgot to throw in your name in the last 2 comments mnepton10:19
mneptonbestadvocate: so, you want to backup those 2 folders onto the external drive, yes?10:20
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jackedarmstrong81: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/ipod-manual10:20
JDStonejasper`: it does10:20
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bestadvocatemnepton, yes recursively10:20
s4lvuzzohi all10:20
jackedarmstrong81: that doesn't work?10:20
JDStonejasper`: but what about my clients10:20
armstrong81doesnt exist10:20
Gevaudan82Weird question...but does anyone know the word which means an unexpected problem resulting from the combination of two situations? it's not transitive,  but i can't seem to lay my finger on it!10:20
mneptonbestadvocate: you'll either have to use 2 rsync commands, put those two folders in a single folder by themselves, or back up your einter home dir.10:20
JDStonehmm, dhclient.conf says it's requesting the domain-name10:20
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mneptonbestadvocate: which makes the most sense to you?10:20
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bestadvocatemnepton, two commands would be better, thanks10:21
AWOSDevFIRE?10:21
jackedarmstrong81: sudo parted /dev/sda10:21
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jackedlet me know the output10:21
jackederrr...10:21
jasper`JDStone, try mnepton (sorry mnepton).10:21
jackedafter typing 'p'10:21
armstrong81No such device or address10:21
JDStoneit's ok.  thanks again jasper`10:21
jackedarmstrong81: sudo parted /dev/sdb10:22
jackedarmstrong81: sudo parted /dev/sdc10:22
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agutiermI have the same time10:22
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agutiermagutierm@zeta41:~$ date10:22
agutiermlun oct 16 04:22:28 EDT 200610:22
agutierm:-(10:22
armstrong81no such file or directory10:22
mneptonbestadvocate: rsync -a -v /media/hdb1/home/bestadvocate/folder1/ /media/SEA_DISK/10:22
mneptonbestadvocate: repeat that, substituting the second folder name10:22
jackedv-stargazer: I mentioned /etc/default/acpi-support10:23
bestadvocatethanks mnepton, your a lifesaver10:23
AWOSDevv-stargazer?  uh, fire?10:23
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jasper`JDStone, `option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;` isn't something you want is it?10:23
mneptonbestadvocate: my PayPal address is ... ;)10:23
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bestadvocate:)10:23
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JDStoneno10:23
JDStonejasper`: no10:23
jackedmnepton: what a fine idea...10:24
AWOSDevahh okay, v-stargazer, thought your PSU sparked or something :P10:24
armstrong81do you know what program or setting put the drives on the desktop, cause thats the other symptom10:24
jackedlol10:24
JDStonejasper`: it's ok, I think I figured it out10:24
v-stargazerAWOSDev, not yet and hopefully never...10:24
jasper`JDStone, ?10:24
AWOSDevYou know, TBH, I'm here to learn how to help people so I can do Tehc Support for a living.10:24
mneptonjacked: yeah, except i already get paid for suypporting Ubuntu, and i don't think my boss would be happy with me asking users for money ;)10:24
AWOSDevs/Tehc/Tech10:24
RichardCraniumwhich kernel should I be using on a core 2 duo?10:25
jackedmnepton: understood.10:25
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JDStonejasper`: request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,10:25
JDStone        domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,10:25
JDStone        netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;10:25
jasper`AWOSDev, Ruskin: Crown of Wild Olive, "No one ever teaches well who wants to teach or governs well who wants to govern..."10:25
JDStonejasper`: notice domain-name10:25
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jackedmnepton: so what you're saying is... there's nothing stopping me!10:25
AWOSDevjasper`, huh?10:25
jackedmnepton: perhaps not.10:25
JDStonejasper`: so it must be getting the domain name from the dhcp server10:25
jackedlol10:25
JDStonei'm going to bed10:25
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AWOSDevJDStone G'night!10:25
Willsterjasper: tis true, tis true10:26
mneptonjacked: you seem, at least if ignorant of Linux, very adept at reading between lines ;)10:26
JDStonenight AWOSDev10:26
mneptonjacked: and who knows, maybe you're a Linux guru, too. double threat. :)10:26
jackedmnepton: that's why I'm a law school student10:26
holycownautilus has to die10:26
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mneptonholycow: give it a directory with 14K images to thumbnail. it'll die.10:27
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mnepton(actually, it won't. which is more annoying than if it did.)10:27
kihaiHi! I'm looking for documentation about ltsp 5.0 (the version that's included in Edubuntu 6.10). Can anyone give me any hints on where to look?10:27
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jasper`Maybe there's an ltspbuntu?10:28
holycowmnepton, the thing about gnome and kde is: gnome dudes know interface but write terrible code ... kde dudes spit out code like theres no tommorrow but cannot design a ui if their life depended on it10:28
mneptonkihai: try #edubuntu10:28
holycowif there were only some way to squish those two groups together ...10:28
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mneptonholycow: not really something you want to say to a member of the GNOME Foundation ;)10:29
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kaflflhmm10:29
holycowmnepton, ha!10:29
mnepton:)10:29
kihaimnepton: Been there, done it. No one knew where to find manuals... :)10:29
holycowis this where i backpedal on my comments?10:29
holycow:)10:29
mneptonkihai: what is the specific question?10:29
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mneptonholycow: first you need a flux capacitor10:30
mneptonthen a DeLorean. then you're set.10:30
jackedarmstrong81: did you figure it out yet?  what do you get from ls /dev/sd*  ?10:30
InfineonHOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!10:30
holycowheh10:30
InfineonHOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!10:30
kihaimnepton: How do I setup ltsp 5.0 including local device support on a freshly installed Edubuntu 6.10 Beta?10:30
kaflflSURE ARE A LOT OF UBUNTU FAGGOTS IN HERE LIKE: kaflfl flopian ead normal sc0tty kihai LordSkylark jjlowing joachim-n Znarl agutierm phar0z BlueBoar Gevaudan82 s4lvuzzo thoreauputic braino wrabbit^ v-stargazer nrdb acidjames_ elias glatzor lostsync thefish rysiek|pl bestadvocate robby anoobis visik7 ice63 spacey blithe muffi__ yango skyweb C-O-L-T jolzee elate mikedep333 SubNet DrColossus po0f vegiVamp timhaughton armstrong81 noneee jbir10:30
flopianSURE ARE A LOT OF UBUNTU FAGGOTS IN HERE LIKE: kaflfl flopian ead normal sc0tty kihai LordSkylark jjlowing joachim-n Znarl agutierm phar0z BlueBoar Gevaudan82 s4lvuzzo thoreauputic braino wrabbit^ v-stargazer nrdb acidjames_ elias glatzor lostsync thefish rysiek|pl bestadvocate robby anoobis visik7 ice63 spacey blithe muffi__ yango skyweb C-O-L-T jolzee elate mikedep333 SubNet DrColossus po0f vegiVamp timhaughton armstrong81 noneee jbirdman10:30
InfineonHOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!10:30
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flopiancroppa desti shorter human_blip besonen2____ guibis zaatar_ snoop dartmolx Lorvij Cosmosan yeager POVaddct xabbuh marsu_ Huey tanghus Mogz Geoffrey2 hpnadig Caplain phaero Fracture BoyBlunder _max_ render notbbt rpedro atrophic abhinay narg zorro AAAle jerb cyphase Carnage\ goofy jinnsyi Seveas Bitmaster jacked mikeymike-linux Zaire optimistic Android ChaKy reduz brosnan pitti fraco dr0ne johns^ kintaro0e lFke Luke pusakat raphink df Jonbo10:30
InfineonHOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!10:30
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RoboNuggieOh dear10:30
jamx...10:30
InfineonHOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!10:30
LoRezWarning: `Infineon' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.10:30
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cyphase*sigh*10:30
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cyphasego away10:31
ShadowpillarFAIL AT TROLLING GTFO.10:31
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Gevaudan82get to the choppa!10:31
RoboNuggieMicrodoft PR aren't what they used to be10:31
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holycowheh10:31
BHSPitLappy:P10:31
AWOSDevWhy was I kicked?10:32
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ZaireI say get lost microshaft junky10:32
AWOSDevI didn't do anything :( :( :( :(10:32
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mneptonsomeday, when that guy gets laid, he'll look back on nights like this and realize why he was a 25 year old virgin.10:32
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holycowprobably accident AWOSDev10:32
jambalaySURE ARE A LOT OF UBUNTU FAGGOTS IN HERE LIKE: kaflfl flopian ead normal sc0tty kihai LordSkylark jjlowing joachim-n Znarl agutierm phar0z BlueBoar Gevaudan82 s4lvuzzo thoreauputic braino wrabbit^ v-stargazer nrdb acidjames_ elias glatzor lostsync thefish rysiek|pl bestadvocate robby anoobis visik7 ice63 spacey blithe muffi__ yango skyweb C-O-L-T jolzee elate mikedep333 SubNet DrColossus po0f vegiVamp timhaughton armstrong81 noneee jbirdma10:32
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jambalaycroppa desti shorter human_blip besonen2____ guibis zaatar_ snoop dartmolx Lorvij Cosmosan yeager POVaddct xabbuh marsu_ Huey tanghus Mogz Geoffrey2 hpnadig Caplain phaero Fracture BoyBlunder _max_ render notbbt rpedro atrophic abhinay narg zorro AAAle jerb cyphase Carnage\ goofy jinnsyi Seveas Bitmaster jacked mikeymike-linux Zaire optimistic Android ChaKy reduz brosnan pitti fraco dr0ne johns^ kintaro0e lFke Luke pusakat raphink df Jonbo10:32
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AWOSDevAh!10:32
raphinkraaaaaaaaaaaaah10:32
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dibblegowhy can I mount a samba share with Places->Connect to Server, but I cannot do it at the command line? "5867: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)"10:32
holycowmnepton, you mean 45 year old virgin10:32
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abhinaywhat is happening here ?10:33
mneptonholycow: you can't prove i am, so don't even try, mmkay?10:33
cyphaseaah10:33
holycowrofl!10:33
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mneptonoh ... wait. you meant .... never mind.10:33
Seveasabhinay, some people with a negative IQ think it's fun to spam10:33
AAAlei see there are a lot of guys hat have a lot of time to lose :P10:33
holycowwe are geeks eh?10:33
holycowheh10:33
kyjagood morning.10:33
xabbuhdibblego:  how did you try it on cmmand line?10:33
AWOSDevDang they got ##linux too10:33
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rysiek|plAAAle: yeah, I've got a friend like this. he spent 4h installind (Hasta la) Vista10:33
MadpilotAWOSDev, the big channels get targeted10:33
dibblegoxabbuh, mount -t smbfs //host/share -o username=u,password=p10:33
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AAAleryanakca, lol :D10:34
BHSPitLappywhen are they releasing that patch for human stupidity?10:34
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thoreauputicBHSPitLappy: marked "can't fix"10:34
mneptonBHSPitLappy: North Korea just tested a beta, so they say.10:34
SeveasBHSPitLappy, Smith&Wesson did that a while ago, it's illegal to use though ;)10:34
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Seveasmnepton, 10:34
jackedBHSPitLappy: they have, it's called "the gun"10:34
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BHSPitLappywow, three consecutive joke responses10:34
AWOSDevBHSPitLappy -- I've been waiting for that patch for yearssssss...still too many idiots driving on I-95 :)10:34
xabbuhdibblego:  did you specify the correct workgroup, username and password?10:34
BHSPitLappyand a fourth and fifth nonconsecutive10:35
jackedlol10:35
BHSPitLappyjacked's works, though10:35
dibblegoxabbuh, no workgroup (the remote system is linux) and the correct username/password10:35
atrophicdibblego, have you done a 'sudo apt-get install smbfs' ?10:35
dibblegoatrophic, yes10:35
kyjaanybody tweak there x.org and ati drivers maybe even with the dual core cpu. SO it works well. I can open the screen saver app and select glmatrix and one of the cpu readings goes to 100% and starts to over heat my lappy.10:35
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cyphaseBHSPitLappy: i think God said that was going to be late10:35
jackedBHSPitLappy: that was a Leno-esque setup.  bravo10:35
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cyphase:P10:35
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BHSPitLappycool10:36
BHSPitLappynight, folks\10:36
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xabbuhdibblego:  username and password are known by smbpasswd on the remote host?10:36
atrophicdibblego, the command you posted doesn't specify a mount point10:36
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dibblegoxabbuh, yes10:36
jackedv-stargazer: which one10:36
dibblegoatrophic, sorry, transcription error10:36
Daniel0how can i install grub again if it was replaced by something else? can i do it from the livecd?10:36
atrophicdibblego, figured so ;)10:36
v-stargazerjacked: Finally got the acpi-support file open (read only). What line should I be looking for? <--repeaded10:36
dibblegoatrophic, sudo smbmount //gsxr/music t -o "username=tmorris,password=xxx"10:36
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mesha!mbr10:36
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:36
meshaDaniel0: See those.10:37
dibblegoatrophic, any ideas?10:37
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atrophicdibblego, no need to quote the options, and there's still no mount point in there10:37
mcmahonshey is there any way i can d/l a package and its dependancies from a different pc. i'm at home on parens mac, need to d/l some packages to take to a place with dial up. what do i do?10:37
jackedv-stargazer: did you get my message to paste the contents of THAT file and laptop[...] .conf file into pastebin.ca?10:37
dibblegoatrophic, there is if your password contains special characters :)10:37
dibblegoatrophic, the mount point is there10:37
dibblegoit is t10:38
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atrophicdibblego, I swear I got that error just recently, I'm trying to recall everything I went through to fix it ;)10:38
BHSPitLappyis anyone familiar with this bug... I close my laptop lid, the screen turns off, then the screensaver kicks in, and it turns the screen back on (while closed), therefore wasting power and overheating the laptop overnight10:38
goofyanyone know where i can get the defalt synaptic source list.....i want to start over10:38
v-stargazergot it now10:38
Lorvijaanyone? :/10:38
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dibblegoatrophic, I've had it as well and I can't remember either :)10:38
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BHSPitLappy!sources10:38
goofycan you pm it to me10:38
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:38
BHSPitLappy!easysource10:38
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:38
BHSPitLappygoofy ^10:38
AWOSDevIs anybody here also in #freenode-social?  I need a voice.10:38
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goofyah thanks10:39
jackedv-stargazer: and why can you only get it to open read-only?  you'll need to do chmod o+w /etc/defaults/apci-support (or something like that)10:39
BHSPitLappyAWOSDev, you can't get voice from peers...10:39
BHSPitLappypm an op10:39
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BHSPitLappynight10:39
RichardCraniumshould I be using linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-xeon or k8 on my core2duo?10:39
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jackedRichardCranium: no10:39
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Sl4y3ri have a question guys10:40
Sl4y3rcan someone help me?10:40
RichardCraniumjacked, which kernel is appropriate for a core2duo?10:40
jackedRichardCranium: linux-image-[...] -generic10:40
meshaAsk and you'll see.10:40
|normal|I hate my isp...Anyways(just in case someone answered and I wasn't around), can you use another distro's kernel with Ubuntu, or somehow compile the install cd with a kernel that don't freeze?10:40
kihai How do I setup ltsp 5.0 including local device support on a freshly installed Edubuntu 6.10 Beta?10:40
gnomefreakRichardCranium: smp10:40
RichardCraniumjacked, thats horrible!10:40
gnomefreakjacked: dapper doesnt use -generic10:41
jackedRichardCranium: linux-image-[...] -i68610:41
atrophicdibblego, try using a credentials file?10:41
Seveaskihai, #edubuntu can answer that10:41
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jackedsorry, assumed 17-1010:41
RichardCraniumjacked, that will not allow me to use 64 bit10:41
dibblegoatrophic, I haven't, but I know I never have done that and I have definitely resolved this issue before10:41
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ice63well i'm runing linux-image-2.6.17-2-k7 right now10:41
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jackedRichardCranium: oh... core2duo 64bit???10:42
Sl4y3rjacked would you by chance know why i cant connect to the internet through ubuntu via modem10:42
Sl4y3rdial-up10:42
RichardCraniumjacked, yes sir.10:42
Seveasice63, that's very out of date...10:42
kihaiSeveas: OK, I'll try it again there....10:42
jackedRichardCranium: nice!10:42
RichardCraniumjacked, amd64-generic though? im so disappointed.10:42
jackedRichardCranium: that's the one10:42
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RichardCraniumjacked, what does the xeon have that the generic doesnt10:43
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ice63Seveas, ok10:43
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NiteFearshas anyone seen the "green frame" console problem in the recent edgy builds?10:43
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jackedRichardCranium: I'm out on that one... over my head10:43
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gnomefreakNiteFears: #ubuntu+1 for edgy10:44
RichardCraniumI bet Seveas know10:44
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v-stargazerjacked: http://pastebin.ca/204808 <--laptop-mode.conf | http://pastebin.ca/204810 <--acpi-support10:44
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NiteFearsgnomefreak: it's quiet there10:44
glickwhat the hell, how come with every release of ubuntu, they take away more and more of my configuration options?10:44
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glickfor example10:44
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adammk!restricted10:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:45
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glickin screensaver settings, how do i setup individual screen savers10:45
glickhow can i test them10:45
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glicklike i used to be able to10:45
Seveasglick, don't use <enter> as punctuation please10:45
RichardCraniumSeveas, where might i find some info on the differences between  linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-xeon and -generic?10:45
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atrophicdibblego, What is the target's OS?10:45
Seveasglick, and that bug is very well known, you're only the 1000000th complainer10:45
Madpilotglick, the gnome-screensaver thing is a known bug10:45
dibblegoatrophic, ubuntu-server-6.0610:46
SeveasRichardCranium, no idea, never looked at it10:46
glickits a bug?10:46
RichardCraniumoh no!10:46
Seveasglick, it's a missing feature, upstream maintainer refuses to implement it10:46
gnomefreakglick: they mean its a known problem and no fix atm10:46
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glickbut the feature used to be there10:46
glickhow did it disapear?10:46
atrophicdibblego, //gsxr is ubuntu as well as the client you're trying to connect to it with?10:46
dibblegoatrophic, correct10:47
jackedv-stargazer: your acpi-support file isn't there10:47
Seveasit was there in xscreensaver, ubuntu uses gnome-screensaver now (for various reasons)10:47
thoreauputicSl4y3r: keep your questions in channel please - so everyone can see them and you have a better chance at an naswer10:47
jackedoh... woops...10:47
ice63so jest install xsreensaver's10:47
jackedvstargazer: my bad10:47
ubuntunewbhey anyone know the unoffical documention url?10:47
thoreauputic*answer10:47
gnomefreakthoreauputic: you too10:47
jackedv-stargazer: my bad10:47
gnomefreaklol10:47
RichardCraniumhow do I get SMP enabled on my kernel? im using 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic10:47
thoreauputicgnomefreak: yeah unrequested /msg *sigh*10:48
ubuntunewbthe one that tells you how to install limewire, xmms, and splash to grub and all that stuff10:48
SeveasRichardCranium, install then amd64-smp version of it10:48
v-stargazerjacked, it should be there...10:48
gnomefreakthoreauputic: not 2 seconds after i signed on :(10:48
glickmaybe they should go back to xscreensavior then10:48
wrabbit^ubuntunewb: ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper10:48
ubuntunewbthanks10:48
NiteFearsis there a working monkey's audio plugin for either xine or gstreamer on x64? I couldn't find it after hours of search10:48
Seveasthoreauputic, /ignore lusers_sending_unsolicited_pm!*@* ALL10:48
thoreauputicgnomefreak: assumption: ops must have answers10:48
Seveas;)10:48
gnomefreakglick: cant it was pulled due to too many issues10:48
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Seveasglick, no, definitely not.10:49
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Seveassomeone needs to write the configuration bits10:49
glickissues like it working?10:49
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RichardCraniumthere doesnt appear to be linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic-smp10:49
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atrophicdibblego, I'm sure I ran into this problem just last week when setting up my music as a share on my ubuntu desktop, I can't for the life of me remember what fixed it though :/  sorry10:49
dibblegoatrophic, no worries, I've solved this problem too - long ago10:50
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atrophicdibblego, does everything work properly from smbclient?10:50
RichardCraniumapt-cache search amd64-smp reveals nothing10:50
glickhey isnt etch due out this week?10:50
SeveasRichardCranium, you need the -k8 or -xeon version, depending on the cou you have10:50
dibblegoatrophic, no10:50
RichardCraniumSeveas, I have a core2duo10:51
glickor edgy rather?10:51
Seveasone of the differneces is that they inclue SMP, whilst -generic dos not10:51
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gnomefreakglick: no and #ubuntu+1 would be the channel for that10:51
dibblegoatrophic, session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE10:51
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Seveastry xeon then10:51
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jackedv-stargazer:    in laptop file:  ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_ON_AC=1   in ACPI file: uncomment this line:  ACPI_SLEEP=true and ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=true (if you have problems, then put ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE back to false and try again)10:51
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glickgnomefreak, just thought someone would know off hand10:52
gnomefreakglick: we do know10:52
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gnomefreakand its not this week10:52
glickits illegal to tell me in this channel?10:52
RichardCraniumok im installing the xeon version now - whats the package called with smp ?10:52
NiteFearsFYI, #ubuntu+1 is damn unresponsive, I didn't get an answer to a single question there so far10:52
gnomefreakNiteFears: maybe noone knows?10:52
NiteFearsgnomefreak: someone could have attempted, at least10:53
gnomefreakim sitting there watching and if i had a clue i would tell you10:53
NiteFearslooks rather like noone cares/pays attention10:53
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xabbuhdibblego:  are you able to access the share by using another username/password?10:53
Psychobudgieor noone has had or seen the issue10:54
dibblegoxabbuh, I can access it through Places->Connect to Server (whatever that does)10:54
v-stargazerjacked, k, I'll try that.10:54
gnomefreakNiteFears: noone knows try checking launchpad.net10:55
atrophicdibblego, what's /etc/samba/smbusers look like on the server?10:55
xabbuhdibblego:  maybe it would help, if you show use the contents of your configuration: testparm -sv | grep -v '^#'10:55
RichardCraniumim astounded - it doesnt appear that either gentoo or ubuntu support a core 2 duo CPU10:55
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dibblegoatrophic, no such file10:55
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NiteFearsok, an on-topic question: are the fixes to core 2 duo going to be backported to Dapper any time soon?10:56
gnomefreakRichardCranium: isnt the core2duo a pentium?10:56
ubuntunewbhey get this error when trying to refresh my repositories after i just added 4 of them from the ubuntu dapper wiki: W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371810:56
dibblegoxabbuh, atrophic http://rafb.net/paste/results/1tXm0U35.html10:56
RichardCraniumNiteFears, what fixes? I can't even get a kernel for the thing10:56
RichardCraniumgnomefreak, yep10:57
jackedgnomefreak: that's what I thought10:57
NiteFearsRichardCranium: well, I'm on edgy and using it okay10:57
gnomefreakwhy are you looking for amd64 than10:57
AWOSDevWell I'll be going to be now.10:57
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AWOSDevs/be/bed10:57
atrophicdibblego, create that file and add 'tmorris = Administrator' to it10:57
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AWOSDev4:56am EDT10:57
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dibblegoatrophic, where do I add that exactly?10:57
narci.wep10:57
RichardCraniumhmm my amd64 generic kernel appears to have SMP enabled...10:57
AWOSDevubuntunewb, that's fine, it's just a warning.10:57
NiteFearsRichardCranium: that's right10:58
narci.bot wep10:58
atrophicdibblego, /etc/samba/smbusers10:58
AWOSDevnarci, try10:58
dibblegoatrophic, ok10:58
AWOSDev!wep10:58
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:58
ubuntunewbok10:58
narcidarn10:58
shinobi2anyone know how to config mc's color?10:58
AWOSDevnarci np :)10:58
ubuntunewbthanks AWOSDev10:58
AWOSDevubuntunewb np :)10:58
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atrophicdibblego, and run 'smbpasswd -a tmorris' to create the samba password for the user10:58
narci!wpa10:58
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:58
AWOSDevwell g'night :)10:58
RichardCraniumNiteFears, so there appears to be some confusion whether I should use a Xeon or a generic kernel10:58
RichardCraniumfor my core2duo10:59
dibblegoatrophic, that worked10:59
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RichardCraniumyou appear to know what you're talking about a bit, any suggestions?10:59
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dibblegoatrophic, I have no idea how I solved it last time though :)10:59
mneptonRichardCranium: 686SMP10:59
NiteFearsRichardCranium: you have definitely no reason to use xeon, as it's a completely unrelated architecture10:59
dibblegoatrophic, xabbuh thanks10:59
ubuntunewbhmm dapper didn't come with xchat preinstalled..10:59
RichardCraniumNiteFears, then it would be generic for me?10:59
ubuntunewbi hate using irc on gaim10:59
ubuntunewb:-(10:59
NiteFearsRichardCranium: I'm on generic, and it does use both cores10:59
atrophicdibblego, awesome (:11:00
muffi__use irssi ;)11:00
RichardCraniumNiteFears, any kind of noticeable problems?11:00
ubuntunewbah..11:00
ubuntunewbill try it muffi__ thanks11:00
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NiteFearsRichardCranium: couldn't install dapper at all due to multiple problems. with edgy, I get constant beep from pc speaker during the boot and a green frame around the console11:01
gnomefreakubuntunewb: you should be warned its texted based11:01
ubuntunewboh, is it harder to use than bitchx11:01
muffi__it's just coooooooool. :D11:01
ubuntunewb?11:01
gnomefreakubuntunewb: no not really11:01
kandalaHello, Everyone, Where can I get the deb file for Thunderbird-1.0?11:01
RichardCraniumNiteFears, thats HORRID - im not having any issues like that11:01
muffi__imho not at all11:01
ubuntunewblol if i used to run ftp on dos to get stuff.. i don't think i should have a problem11:02
NiteFearskandala: sudo apt-get install thunderbird11:02
kandalaNiteFears: That would install Thunderbird-1.5, but I need 1.0 (the older one)11:02
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gnomefreakmozilla-thunderbird is the package name11:02
muffi__ubuntunewb: won't be a problem for you then11:02
ubuntunewbbah..i have to rtfm :-(11:03
ubuntunewbill stick to gui friendly xchat11:03
NiteFearsRichardCranium: well, looks like I'm using a new and different MB - Asus p5b11:03
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ubuntunewbi'm being lazy11:03
muffi__ubuntunewb: try /help or /help COMMAND11:03
meshaImo irssi is in some cases even easier than graphical clients.11:03
cetexso. where do i find w32codecs and stuff now that plf seems to be down?11:03
NiteFearsRichardCranium: if you're more lucky than me to have chosen a less rare chipset than intel, you might not see this11:03
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RichardCraniumNiteFears, ahh asrock 775i65G here11:04
muffi__add a network, a server and some channels11:04
RichardCraniumNiteFears, 865G - solid as a rock11:04
meshairssi.org has a guide for beginner.11:04
mesha+s11:04
muffi__ubuntunewb: www.irssi.org11:04
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ubuntunewbieha..not too bad11:05
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RichardCraniumwhat the hell - the bogomips on my cpu are lower than my northwood11:05
ubuntunewbiebut i can't stand all this white11:05
RichardCraniumthe CPU mhz is too low too11:05
RichardCraniumim goiung to log on from there, this is WEIRD11:06
muffi__ubuntunewbie: you can download themes11:06
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adammki have a very strange error: the left and right keys won't do anything. the only thing i can think of that may have caused this is the Keyboard Shortcuts in System>Preferences11:07
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meshaAt least change terminal background to black and foreground to white.11:07
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RichardCraniumok im on the box11:08
mneptonubuntunewbie: if you want a really good and feature-complete GUI IRC client, i recommend jIRCii11:08
ubuntunewbieokay :-)11:08
ubuntunewbiethanks11:08
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mneptonubuntunewbie: do you have Sun's Java installed?11:09
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ubuntunewbienot yet11:09
ubuntunewbieworking on it11:09
ubuntunewbieinstalling through synaptic as we speak11:09
RichardCraniumhttp://pastebin.ca/20483511:09
RichardCraniumcan anyone help me out with this? on my core 2 duo the CPU is only getting 1.6ghz11:10
mneptonubuntunewbie: when that's installed, /msg me. i'll help you get everything set up :)11:10
ubuntunewbiecool thanks mnepton11:10
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mneptonnote to self: ping doko11:10
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mnepton02:41 [Freenode]  CTCP VERSION reply from mnepton: jIRCii - http://jirc.hick.org :: Ubuntu - Linux snowwhite 2.6.15-27-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat11:11
mnepton          Sep 16 02:35:20 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux11:11
mneptoneesh, sorry11:11
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ubuntunewbielol11:11
v-stargazerrebooting, brb11:12
ubuntunewbiejircii isn't avaible through synaptic.. so thanks for that url btw11:12
RichardCraniumNiteFears, my kernel is running at the wrong speed!!!11:13
mneptonubuntunewbie: it takes a little hand work to get it working. but i'm an old hand at it.11:13
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ubuntunewbiehehe11:13
jackedRichardCranium: can you type "uname -m" and tell me what it returns (humour me)11:13
NiteFearsRichardCranium: I have no cure :) try edgy11:13
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RichardCraniumx86_6411:13
jackedinteresting11:14
jackedthanks11:14
ubuntunewbiebrb gotta restart11:14
RichardCraniumwow - I am horrified to report Im going to have to use windows for 64 bit processing11:14
RichardCraniumI think i'll go hang myself.11:14
NiteFearsRichardCranium: what processing is that?11:14
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holycowwhat do you gotta do in 64 bit?11:14
RichardCraniumyou know, I wanted to run gentoo and compile in 64 bit11:15
RichardCraniumbut it appears that linux itself does not support the core 2 duo yet11:15
NiteFearsRichardCranium: screw it and install 32-bit image :)11:15
holycowjust curious what you need 64 bit for?11:15
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mneptonRichardCranium: the Core Duo is *not* a 64 bit processor11:16
RichardCraniumholycow, to access large pieces of memory for compiling and for running ut2004, which has a 64 bit release11:16
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RichardCraniummnepton, that is correct, and irrelevant.11:16
gnomefreakits made by pentium not amd11:16
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holycowRichardCranium, lol, you cannot afford hundreds of gigs of ram dude :)11:16
wijnandcan anyone tell me how to align my desktop icons to the right in gnome?11:16
mAIJKHi. Can Ubuntu with GUI run "OK" on an laptop: 500Mhz, 128Mb PC100 SDRAM, 5,6 HDD, 8Mb s3 agp2 GFX ??11:16
gnomefreakRichardCranium: very relivent since you are trying to use it as a amd6411:16
mneptonRichardCranium: then why are you asking about running 64 bit Ubuntu releases on a Core Duo?11:16
RichardCraniumholycow, no, but I can afford 411:16
holycowif ya gotta run windows, run it11:17
RichardCraniumgnomefreak, scroll up, and take a puff of this my friend.11:17
PsychobudgiemAIJK,  yes11:17
RichardCraniummnepton, Im not.11:17
RedGhostAnyone know when the next version of ubuntu is going to be released (roughly?)11:17
PsychobudgiemAIJK,  I use dapper on my compaq armada m300 with PIII 50011:17
mneptonRedGhost: Oct. 2611:17
boink!edgy11:17
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule11:17
mAIJKPsychobudgie 128Mb sdram?11:17
gnomefreakRedGhost: 26th and please ask any edgy related questions in #ubuntu+111:17
Psychobudgie256 on mine11:17
mneptonRichardCranium: so then what is the problem?11:18
NiteFears!schedule11:18
thoreauputicmAIJK: xubuntu would be better - possible with the alternate CD installer on 128 MB with GNOME but not great11:18
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule11:18
RichardCraniummnepton, Im running a core 2 duo.11:18
mAIJKPsychobudgie I think 128Mb is problem11:18
RedGhostthat was my only question ;\11:18
mneptonRichardCranium: and ... ?11:18
PsychobudgiemAIJK,  may be better with xubuntu with only 12811:18
boinkedgy will also have upstart, looking forward to that11:18
RichardCraniummnepton, the core 2 duo IS 64 bit.11:18
thoreauputicmAIJK: the desktop installer needs at least 192 MB11:18
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thoreauputicmAIJK: so, use the alternate CD11:19
cetexRichardCranium: uhm. "large pieces of memory", you can address higher memoryaddresses with 64bit processing, but i doubt you'll actually need it..11:19
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RichardCraniumcetex, you ought to see the difference in ut2004 between 32 and 64 bit on windoze. its insane.11:19
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mAIJKthoreauputic ok, I love gnome tho... :)11:20
mAIJKBut I need to use as little ram as possible11:20
NiteFearsmnepton: which IS a x64 processor11:20
mAIJKSo I will try xubuntu !11:20
gnomefreakRichardCranium: again you are running a core2duo and uname -m says you are running 64bit11:20
NiteFearsanyway11:20
RichardCraniumin 64 bit, nothing slows it down11:20
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jackedRichardCranium: take a look at this   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84926.html11:20
RichardCraniumgnomefreak, that is correct sir.11:20
mAIJKthoreauputic ok, thx!11:20
thoreauputicmAIJK: GNOME might be possible on 128 MB if you use the alternate CD to install11:20
cetexRichardCranium: core 2 duo is _NOT_ 64bit!11:20
RichardCraniumcetex, Im not going to argue with you about it.11:20
thoreauputicmAIJK: it will probably be pretty slow though11:20
gnomefreakRichardCranium: so you are running an AMD64 kernel with a pentium proc?11:20
mAIJKthoreauputic Do you think xubuntu will run fine on 128Mb?11:20
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RichardCraniumamd64-generic11:21
cetexRichardCranium: so whatever you try you will not be able to run 64bit applications on a 32bit system..11:21
RichardCraniumtheres even amd64-xeon11:21
gnomefreakRichardCranium: MAD is not pentium11:21
thoreauputicmAIJK: yes - but again, use the alternate/ text installer CD11:21
Rich43Im trying to get XGL working on Ubuntu.11:21
gnomefreakAMD11:21
jackedcetex: not necessarily true, AFAIK11:21
Rich43I have the ATI drivers installed (followed guide on ubuntuguide.org) and I followed these instructions to install XGL: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper11:21
mAIJKthoreauputic I will! thx11:21
thoreauputic:)11:21
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Rich43At the moment I am running the overclocking daddy of 32bit cpu's, the Athlon XP1700+ and a ATI 9800pro along with Ubuntu 6.06 dapper.11:21
cetexjacked: oh, well.. emulation and stuff..11:21
Rich43The problem is... when I right-click on the Beryl Manager and go to Select Window Manager --> Beryl ... it does not change it and puts it back to "Metacity". The windows on my screen blink a little while it trys to change it, I think something went wrong though.11:21
thoreauputicmAIJK: xubuntu is pretty nice :)11:21
Rich43And now for some debugging info for you guys:11:22
Rich43Output of fglrxinfo: http://pastebin.ca/20483811:22
Rich43My xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/20483911:22
jackedcetex: huh?11:22
jackedcetex: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84926.html11:22
mAIJKthoreauputic ok, I hope so :D11:22
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mneptonRichardCranium: i still don't know the exact problem that will force you back to Windows.11:22
RichardCraniummnepton, the core 2 duo CPU is not properly supported.11:22
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Rich43Someone help me please?!?11:23
defrysk!ask11:23
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:23
mneptonRichardCranium: example? have you filed a Malone bug? any similar reports on LP? can another person reproduce it?11:23
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Rich43defrysk: I did ask silly!11:23
RichardCraniummnepton, I havent filed a thing. I just installed it maybe 10 minutes ago11:23
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Rich43defrysk: try reading.11:24
mneptonRichardCranium: then it's a little early to say "it's not properly supported," imo11:24
RichardCraniummnepton, not really11:24
RichardCraniumhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support11:24
sharperguyok, whats the terminal command to unzip something into a folder with the same name as the zip (w/o .zip extension)11:24
thoreauputicsharperguy: umm - unzip11:25
mAIJKthoreauputic Is there any guide for tweaking xunbutu/ubuntu? Shut down animations and apps that loads and so on?11:25
sharperguylol11:25
gnomefreakRichardCranium: did you happen to read the part of that page about dapper?11:25
defrysksilly me :s11:25
holycowRichardCranium, what do you mean core 2 duo is not supported11:25
thoreauputicmAIJK: I think you'll find xubuntu takes care of that - it's quite lean11:25
holycowall reports are its supported fine11:26
gnomefreakit says Fixed in Dapper Status/Notes11:26
holycowwhere are you running into issues?11:26
gnomefreakNot Yet11:26
mAIJKthoreauputic okay :)11:26
mneptonRichardCranium: that says nothing about the architecture itself, merely the hardware around it.11:26
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RichardCraniumgnomefreak, did you happen to pay attention to the context or did you just read the text in that one spot and make an assumption?11:26
thoreauputicmAIJK: or you can install fluxbox ;-) ( I like fluxbox.. )11:26
mneptonRichardCranium: if you want to live on the bleeding edge, don't complain about the scabs.11:26
gnomefreakRichardCranium: i read it11:26
holycowallright lets see that wiki11:26
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gnomefreakand if you look 99% of it talks about the 2.6.17 kernel11:27
v-stargazerjacked: no joy, it's still not doing what I want...11:27
RichardCraniummnepton, um ok, so if something isnt supported people shouldnt mention it and the prob doesnt get fixed :) brilliant11:27
mAIJKthoreauputic I have tried that, thats to hard to conf i think?11:27
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mAIJKI want to install and then run on my lappy11:27
jackedv-stargazer: does sleep work at all?11:27
RichardCraniumok system update done, brb11:27
mneptonRichardCranium: you have yet to tell us what isn't supported.11:27
v-stargazerSleep works11:27
v-stargazerHibernate works11:27
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RichardCraniummnepton, right now it looks like the full CPU speed11:28
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thoreauputicmAIJK: ah, well there are good docs linked from http://fluxbox.org - but try xubuntu first and see what you think11:28
jackedv-stargazer: but doesn't work when the lid is closed, is that the only issue at this point?11:28
RichardCraniumbrb11:28
gnomefreakRichardCranium: show me where on that page it says anything about dapper or 2.6.15 kernel11:28
constrictedhi, whats the default page file size?11:28
v-stargazerI'm just trying to get the monitor to shut off while the rest of the machine stays on so it can play streaming audio.11:28
mneptonRichardCranium: so what version of the BIOS do you have and how does it handle stepping?11:28
Rich43My question is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1622889    If anyone has a answer, reply here or reply to thread please!11:28
constrictedand can i switch it after install?11:28
soundrayI'd like to filter stdin for lines that contain either 'Patient' or 'Date' or both. How do I use grep correctly?11:28
mneptonconstricted: that question is meaningless on Linux11:28
constrictedoops meant os swap11:29
constricted(i think its differnt word for same thing? )11:29
v-stargazerjacked: wasn't having a problem with Sleep/Hibernate.11:29
mneptonconstricted: again, that question is meaningless on Linux11:29
Shadow_milWhats the apt-get install name for samba?11:29
thoreauputicShadow_mil: samba , funnily enough11:29
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mneptonconstricted: Linux uses a partition for swap. and you don;t resize partitions.11:29
holycowhttp://system76.com/index.php/cPath/1?osCsid=f33aa83347d96f6914d033977db78b0411:29
gnomefreakShadow_mil: sudo apt-get install samba11:29
constricted... you mean i said the wrong term, or its not important?11:30
thoreauputic!info samba11:30
ubotusamba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB11:30
holycowneato11:30
constrictedoh ok, thanks11:30
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constrictedso is the default size 1 or 2 gb?11:30
baboX-lite softphone isn't in the repos ?11:30
mneptonconstricted: it's whatever you make the partition11:30
Shadow_milnormally it likes samba-common-forever-all-I_LOVE_YOU.45-9811:30
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thoreauputicconstricted: that depends on your ram and your preference11:30
constrictedk ty, would >2gb help?11:30
thoreauputicconstricted: no11:31
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gnomefreakconstricted: how much ram do you have?11:31
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constricted4 GB11:31
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thoreauputicconstricted: how much RAM do you have?11:31
gnomefreakconstricted: you better not need a swap at all11:31
v-stargazerGuess I scared him off...:(11:31
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fredlare kprobes now turned on in the Ubuntu kernel?11:31
constrictedah ok, ill just not use one, thanx!11:31
soundrayconstricted: that's not a wise decision11:32
constrictedwow i am SO impressed, i can USE IRC WHILE I INSTALL AN OS11:32
gnomefreakconstricted: i would use one of 1gig but you will really not need it unless you are running all kinds of crap11:32
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constrictedand get help... this has got to be the best thing ever :)11:32
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holycowwell there are a few things better, but no one will argue withca :)11:33
holycowwelcome11:33
fredlconstricted, where are you getting help??11:33
patientHi I'm Patient in Kinsahsa11:33
constrictedoh, on web and here11:33
holycowhello patient from kinshasa11:33
babowhere would I put a 'user' executable so as to be in 'user' path ?11:33
Rich43constricted: yes its a great idea! my wireless works with no extra drivers!11:33
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patientI'm a new user and i'd like some help11:34
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constrictedthis live CD... i mean im going to be able to use it on school computers now11:34
thoreauputicpatient: just ask :)11:34
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constrictedawesome++++11:34
kyjapatient, ok there might be a doctor in teh houze11:34
v-stargazerconstricted, only if they are set up to boot from cdrom beefore hd11:34
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v-stargazerbefore, even...11:35
baboso USER can't move an executable into it's own path ?11:35
constrictedthey have 0 security, i ususally just ssh into my own pc11:35
Rich43He could wipe their hard drives and install ubuntu on them11:35
Rich43:D11:35
mneptonbabo: they can move it wherever they like, in their own $HOME11:35
Rich43pee off some techies11:35
thoreauputicbabo: what are you actually trying to do?11:35
constrictedlol11:35
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fredlbabo, root can.11:35
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baboyeah, but HOME isn't in the path ...11:36
fredlbabo, root is also a user.11:36
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fredlbabo, then you ADD HOME to the PATH11:36
v-stargazerconstricted, heh, the computers at the schools I went to wouldn't let you boot from cd or usb, and they had this nasty web filter...11:36
thoreauputicfredl: bad idea11:36
patientHolycow11:36
constrictedi DO know the admin password (my spanish teacher is network admin also and had it written down) i gues i COULD do that, risky tho :)11:36
babofredl: user can't add HOME to PATH ...11:36
constrictedthey have web filter but its awful11:36
fredlbabo, yes you can.11:36
thoreauputicbabo: you can add ~/bin to your path and put scripts etc there11:36
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fredlbabo, export PATH=$PATH:$HOME11:36
thoreauputicfredl: I repeat, bad idea11:36
fredlthoreauputic, depend on which perspective you use.11:37
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thoreauputic*sigh*11:37
v-stargazerconstricted, you do realize that to set a computer up to boot from cdrom you have to get into the BIOS, right?11:37
soundrayPlease help with grep: how do I match line that contain either of two strings?11:37
bun-bun!kde > bun-bun11:37
babothoreauputic, what if you did PATH=$HOME:$PATH ... ?  safer ?11:37
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babooops, no - never mind ...11:38
constrictedo ya forgot11:38
RichardCraniumok so I got booted up at the correct mhz11:38
baboOK thanks anyway ... guys11:38
constrictedcant you pop out/in the chip to reset it tho?11:38
RichardCraniumhad to turn off all the laptop stuff that was enabled by default11:38
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v-stargazerconstricted: And most of the time the BIOS password will be differrent from other admin passwords. Though they may use the same BIOS pass for different machines...11:38
Ademan  /media/hda1 represents the first or second partition on the first hard drive?11:38
mneptonfirst11:39
constrictedknowing him he might not even have set one :)11:39
RichardCraniumnow, im wondering why my bogomips in cat /proc/cpuinfo are so much lower than my northwood 2.611:39
RichardCraniumunless thats just a clock speed thing11:39
fredl!bogomips11:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bogomips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:39
v-stargazerconstricted, depends on the mobo, some use the same sort of flash memory the usb memory sticks use and aren't affected by loss of power.11:39
thoreauputicRichardCranium:  bogomips = bogus mips - they don't mean much really11:39
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Shadow_milHow can I configure samba in a GUI environment?11:40
v-stargazerAlso, some mobos have security features that orewserve settings regardless of w\hat you do.11:40
fredlare kprobes turned on in Dapper?11:40
thoreauputicRichardCranium: e.g. my PPC iBook shows low bogomips but runs as fast as my 686 PC11:40
meshasoundray: maybe "foobar | grep -G foo || bar"11:40
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meshaI mean foobar | grep -G foo | bar.11:41
patientHello Kyja11:41
v-stargazerSome mobos have jumper settings for resetting the BIOS11:41
kyjahello patient11:41
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gnomefreakv-stargazer: i use the battery for that ;)11:42
thoreauputicRichardCranium: don't get obsessed by meaningless numbers11:42
RichardCraniumim not11:42
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constrictedim guessing older pcs not have those tho, our schools are ~8 years old11:42
kyjaso you have a brand new sexy ubuntu, =]  what help would you like patient ?11:42
RichardCraniumhmph no sse311:42
patientInstall web apache server?11:43
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meshaEssch, it's grep "foo\|bar"...11:43
constrictedcan i use another windows manager too?11:43
kyjapatient, =]  sweet.11:43
constricted(choose on boot or something)11:43
gnomefreakpatient: sudo apt-get install apache2?11:43
kyjapatient, try this. open terminal11:43
soundraymesha: thanks, I've got it11:43
soundraymesha: is 'grep -G' the same as egrep?11:44
v-stargazerIt could be easy, or difficult, depending on the hardware you have to work with and the expertise of your computer tech (and how ignorant he/she believes the students to be)11:44
kyjapatient, then type sudo apt-get install apache211:44
v-stargazerconstricted: You mean a bootloader?11:44
meshasoundray: Yup.11:44
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soundraymesha: little secrets :)  Thanks again11:45
gnomefreakv-stargazer: i think he means like mc or rox11:45
meshanp11:45
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patientwhere do I start?11:45
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kyjapatient, can you open a terminal ?11:46
gnomefreaklol11:46
gnomefreakv-stargazer: window managers like metacity or kwin11:46
patientno,11:46
constrictedi dont know, new to linux :( dont want to install kbuntu or anything, just have the ability to use ubuntu /w xgl/compics, or kde/, etc11:46
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fnoyanhi11:46
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kyjapatient, menu= Applications>Accessories>Terminal11:47
fnoyanis it possible to use debian packages for ubuntu or ubunru has its own packages11:47
gnomefreakcom4: so you want compiz/xgl?11:47
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constrictedyeah11:47
thoreauputicfnoyan: use ubuntu packages11:47
constrictedlooked pretty flashy :)11:47
patientterminal done11:47
thoreauputicfnoyan: using debian packages is not a good idea in general11:47
snoopfnoyan: ubuntu is based on debian11:47
kyjapatient, then type sudo apt-get install apache211:48
gnomefreakconstricted: join #ubuntu-xgl if noone there can help there is a guide in the topic just type /topic and you will see it11:48
constrictedok, thanks!11:48
gnomefreakconstricted: np11:48
v-stargazergnomefreak, don't know what a window manager is, unable to determine definition from context, please rephrase...11:48
fnoyanthoreauputic : but we can. and what about the amount of packages in repo? just a prediction?11:48
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Shadow_milXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server11:48
Shadow_milXlib: No protocol specified11:48
Shadow_milXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server11:48
Shadow_milXlib: No protocol specified11:48
Shadow_mil(shares-admin:22703): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:11:48
gnomefreakv-stargazer: metacity = window manager for gnome kwin= for kde11:48
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gnomefreakShadow_mil: use pastebin please11:48
Shadow_milgnomefreak: sorry11:48
thoreauputicfnoyan: 17 000 or so - but note: debian packages are not binary compatible in many caases11:48
fnoyanthoreauputic : hmm..but the sources are, right?11:49
gnomefreakv-stargazer: window managers job is to draw the windows/frames that you see11:49
patientgreat11:49
haliare there any known acpi bugs that would cause my core2 (2.13Ghz) processor to always run at 800Mhz (shown in /proc/cpuinfo)?11:49
thoreauputicfnoyan: you need to enable universe and multiverse for the full number11:49
thoreauputicfnoyan: yes, source code is OK11:49
v-stargazerAh, that's what they do11:49
fnoyanohh, so a bit headache!11:49
gnomefreakv-stargazer: some of what they do11:50
thoreauputic!repos > fnoyan11:50
patientinstalling package11:50
RichardCraniumok time to try out nvidia11:50
kyjapatient, =] 11:50
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thoreauputicfnoyan: not really - quite easy11:50
Shadow_milhttp://pastebin.ca/20486611:50
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fnoyananyway, i just want to get a general idea about the package system. what about system administarion?11:51
gnomefreakthoreauputic: does nautulis draw its own windows? or does metacity do that?11:51
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thoreauputicfnoyan: you can enable repos in Add/Remove with a few clicks11:51
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thoreauputicgnomefreak: metacity11:51
fnoyanis there a utility (like redhat's linuxconf or suse's yast)?11:51
gnomefreakok ty11:51
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kyjav-stargazer, ubuntu=gnome kubuntu=kde then there are other projects with other managers also.11:51
thoreauputicgnomefreak: assuming you mean the window borders etc11:51
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Shadow_milhttp://pastebin.ca/20486611:51
gnomefreakthoreauputic: yes11:52
Paddy_EIREmourning all11:52
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patientMy web server's started...11:52
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thoreauputicgnomefreak: for instance you can run nautilus --nodesktop in fluxbox and you het fluxbox decorations ;)11:52
gnomefreakah nice11:53
thoreauputicumm --no-desktop I think actually11:53
Paddy_EIREpatient: fancy giving me some space :p11:53
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gnomefreaki forgot about the --nodesktop flag11:53
kyjaso anybosy have an idea about 3d excelorator so my cpu does not max out on the dang matrixview screensaver ?11:53
gnomefreakyes11:53
patientI'll b back11:53
gnomefreakkyja: what video card?11:53
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kyjagnomefreak, its an ati x60011:53
gnomefreak!ati11:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:54
kyjathx I will look gnomefreak11:54
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mngrifwhat would be the best way to reinstall ubuntu without losing /home (backups are for all intesive purposes are impossible)11:55
wildchildPlease help: I was compyling gnash while there was an error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!11:55
thoreauputicfnoyan: admin is mostly under System - Administration11:55
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mngrifrename it and tell it to not format?11:55
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thoreauputicwildchild:  try  xlibs-dev ( install that)11:56
v-stargazerSo if I have to reinstall I can simply choose to not format it. ;)11:56
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RichardCraniumok - im amazed - its working!11:57
RichardCraniumso that makes ubuntu more "bleeding edge" than gentoo :P11:57
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thoreauputicRichardCranium: hush, theymight hear you ;-)11:57
cpk2mngrif: only one drive? how much free space you have? i think you would make a new partition from free space and then move /home over?11:58
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RichardCraniumthoreauputic, no its cool, I installed gentoo first - they dont really support the core2duo in 64 bit mode yet11:58
v-stargazermngrif, if you can, make your /home a seperate partition, then, choose not to reformat it when you reinstall...as cpk2 said...11:58
mngrifcpk2: that is an option, but i'd rather not constrain myself by doing that11:58
mneptonRichardCranium: maybe your initial assessment of Core 2 Duo on Ubuntu was somewhat hasty?11:58
RichardCraniumill keep an eye on gentoo and put it on when its better developed for my cpu11:58
mngrifv-stargazer: that's my typical strategy, but i didn't do it this time (obviously)11:59
RichardCraniummnepton, it would certainly appear that way11:59
cpk2mngrif: then during the install you could enlarge the partition11:59
mneptonRichardCranium: funroll-loops ;)11:59
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thoreauputicRichardCranium: so how much faster is Gentoo? 0.5% ? 1 % ?  /me ducks and runs to -offtopic12:00
thoreauputic*g*12:00
aixinghey anyone found a work around for the x-fi sound card? [currently no drivers from soundblaster] 12:00
v-stargazermngrif: Good Luck...12:00
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mneptonemerge sense-of-linux-superiority --teach-me-linux12:01
mngrifbut if i rename it and tell ubuntu to not format the partition...?12:01
mngrifany reason d-i would rm stuff before unpacking?12:01
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v-stargazerBBL12:02
constrictedunder my XFS partition it says "free space not availible", why would that be?12:02
thoreauputicmnepton: emerge patience-watching-compiles-roll-by12:02
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Willsterhey...not really sure if anyone can help me with this....and I realize the cedega IRC room would probably be more appropriate, but has anyone had issues with playing civ4 running under cedega?12:03
Nothing_aboutHEY I REALLY NEED HELP im very new to ubuntu and have never used linux but im starting to learn12:03
thoreauputicconstricted: preumably because there isn't any free space ther?12:04
Nothing_abouti need to install something12:04
Nothing_aboutusing terminal12:04
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mneptonNothing_about: what do you need to install?12:04
Paddy_EIRE!ask12:04
Nothing_aboutwhen i type in the command su , it asks for my root password12:04
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:04
constricteduse apt12:04
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thoreauputicNothing_about: try saying what you want to install12:04
mngrifNothing_about: sudo -i12:04
Nothing_aboutthe problem is during installation of ubuntu12:04
WillsterIt was running perfectly fine, albeit extremely slow before I enabled direct rendering on my card.  Now I can't see the menu's at all when I start it up.12:04
constrictedwhy is my XFS partition unavilible?12:04
mneptonNothing_about: first, *what* are you trying to install?12:04
Nothing_aboutit never asked me for root password set up12:04
thoreauputicNothing_about: not your root pass unless you set one12:04
Paddy_EIRE!root12:04
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:04
thoreauputic!root12:04
mngrifNothing_about: "sudo -i". try it.12:05
Nothing_abouthow do i set my root password12:05
Nothing_aboutok12:05
thoreauputicNothing_about: ubuntu uses sudo12:05
Nothing_aboutbrb12:05
constrictedi think root acct off by default12:05
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mngrifit is12:05
Rookie_sudo is just more developed in ubuntu - but sudo is not anything new in linuxworld12:05
Nothing_aboutsudo12:05
Willsteryou can change root password by doing "sudo password" or something similiar i think...don't recall the exact command12:05
Nothing_aboutas root passsword12:05
Paddy_EIREanyone try the crappy vista rc2 build yet?12:05
mneptonthe first thing is not telling him how to use sudo, but finding out *what* he wants to install, and pointing him at apt-get if appropriate.12:05
Nothing_aboutwell i used the command su -12:05
thoreauputicNothing_about: no, it wants your USER pass12:05
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Nothing_aboutyeah but ive tried my user pass12:06
Nothing_aboutand it didnt work12:06
constricteddick manager says my XFS partition is not availible, any idea y?12:06
Nothing_aboutim emulating ubuntu with vmware12:06
thoreauputicsu means "switch user" - it won't give you root in ubuntu by default12:06
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Nothing_aboutand im trying to install the vmware tools12:06
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thoreauputicNothing_about:  sudo <command here>12:07
Nothing_aboutand i was following instructions where i have to type in su - in terminal and then after that enter in my root password12:07
thoreauputicno12:07
thoreauputicsee above12:07
constrictednever mind figured out12:07
Nothing_aboutoh12:07
Nothing_aboutso su mean switch users eh12:07
thoreauputicyes12:07
mneptonNothing_about: can;t install those fromt he VMware Server console?12:07
aixingNothing_about: use "sudo + the command you want to run" like apt-get install foo the password its asks for is the one you used to log in12:07
gnomefreakNothing_about: no it means super user12:08
Paddy_EIRE!foo12:08
Nothing_aboutok12:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about foo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
RichardCraniumi love my puppy but she's a disgusting little creature.12:08
thoreauputicNothing_about: in most distros it defaults to root as the user to switch to - in ubuntu you use sudo <command>12:08
Nothing_aboutwell ive installed ubuntu desktop on vmware12:08
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Paddy_EIREI like cake12:08
Nothing_aboutbut anyways so i just type in sudo and command and thats it12:08
Nothing_aboutit will start installing the extracted file from my desktop12:09
thoreauputicNothing_about: read the link about root and sudo12:09
thoreauputic!root12:09
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:09
gnomefreakPaddy_EIRE: and RichardCranium can you please keep the offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic12:09
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Paddy_EIREsry12:09
RichardCraniumI apologize12:09
Nothing_aboutok12:09
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Nothing_aboutwell can anyone here explain to me12:10
Nothing_aboutwhat this tut is trying to do12:10
Nothing_abouthttp://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_newguest_tools_linux.html#wp112717712:10
Nothing_aboutfrom vmware website link12:10
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thoreauputicNothing_about: try asking in #vmware perhaps12:10
thoreauputicNothing_about: currently 61 people there ....12:11
Nothing_aboutok12:11
Nothing_aboutthnxz for the help12:11
Paddy_EIREanyone know how I can download the "Lyrics" plugin/script that amarok uses as for some reason mine has stopped working....or where is the script located by default12:11
Nothing_abouti didnt know what i was doing12:11
thoreauputicnp :)12:11
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RichardCraniumcrud, my dvd isnt mounting12:12
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RichardCraniumsays theres a media error but theres never one in winders12:13
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RichardCraniumdo I have to do something to enable dvd support ?12:13
Paddy_EIRE!multimedia12:13
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications12:13
RichardCraniumthis is a data dvd12:14
Paddy_EIRERichardCranium:  oh, then it should work12:14
Paddy_EIRERichardCranium: what is the content of the disc12:14
wildchildAnother problem while I was compyling gnash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26985/  advice won't be bad.12:14
RichardCraniumit is the isos of my ut2004 cd's12:15
aixinghey chaps anyone got the x-fi sound card working?12:15
hypnoxdoes anyone know of a tool to show the disk writes in real time? (and what is making them)12:15
constrictedYou do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-sdc1".12:15
RichardCraniumjust 6 isos on a dvd works find in winders12:15
constrictedhow do i view? no prompt for a password12:15
poningruRichardCranium: then no you dont need to12:15
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constrictedits a ntfs partition12:16
normalCan I compile my own ubuntu install cd using a kernel from another distro?12:16
poningru!ntfs12:16
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse12:16
constrictedthanks12:16
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Paddy_EIRERichardCranium: the cd should mount, could you paste the contents of your fstab to pastebin12:17
normalI'm able to install Gentoo, Suse, Knoppix, and Fedora, but Every Ubuntu version refuses to boot! Do I have any options?12:18
Paddy_EIRE*dvd12:18
RichardCraniumPaddy_EIRE, it says it has a bad sector12:18
erUSULnormal: in the install wiki page there is a how to to install with knoppix12:18
KenSentMenormal: it refuses to boot after install or the livecd refuses to boot?12:18
erUSUL!install12:18
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues12:18
Paddy_EIRERichardCranium: yet you say it works fine in win12:18
RichardCraniumits saying that for anything that pops into that drive - thats not cool12:18
RichardCraniumPaddy_EIRE, yeah12:19
erUSULnormal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix12:19
RichardCraniumi popped in the ut2004 cd and it didnt mount either12:19
Paddy_EIREthen do the fstab pastebin for me12:19
normalthe livecd, once I hit boot,  it freezes12:19
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RichardCraniumHMPH this is NOT good at all12:20
mneptonnormal: md5sum the image you have, then burn again at <8x speed12:20
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mike_sternhow can i install the apache full package? apt-get ?12:20
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RichardCraniumit mounted manually12:20
Paddy_EIRERichardCranium: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" then copy the cotents of that to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ then give me the link that is created12:21
normalI believe it's the kernel, as I can use 2.6.9(Breezy), but anything higher(from Ubuntu) refuses to work..Alternate, desktop, 386, 64, Kubuntu, Edgy, etc...12:21
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RichardCraniumsays connection was interrupted12:22
jarohello there. Is this the right place to have some questions about data recovery. My disk crashed and left my data partition (with /home, reiserfs) useless. I'd like to ask about some technical details that would shed some light on my chances of getting my data back.12:22
normal2.6.12, 15, and 17 all freeze right after picking them in GRUB12:22
champneed help about ntfs read/write on boot-up how come i cant see my ntfs partition? i flollowed d instruction here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access12:22
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erUSULnormal: why not install breezy and then upgrade? ) (it will be tedius but...) have you tried to boot with acpi=off?12:22
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Paddy_EIREnormal: what processor type are you using12:22
RichardCraniumhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26986/12:23
RichardCraniumPaddy_EIRE, that was for you12:23
Paddy_EIREk12:23
RichardCraniumPaddy_EIRE, I think I have to add something there to add dvd support12:23
RichardCraniumor maybe take udf out12:24
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gnomefreakchamp: writing to ntfs is at best very unstable and not recommended12:24
Paddy_EIREyeah its the way its most likely something simple12:24
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champgnomefreak: could you help me fix it? i really want it to work ^^12:25
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Crissihi12:25
Paddy_EIRERichardCranium: just wondering how many dvd/cd drives you gott12:25
Crissidd if=img.tmp of=filesystem.image bs=64k skip=11 conv=sync12:25
Crissi36+1 records in12:25
Crissi37+0 records out12:25
CrissiSegmentation fault12:25
Crissiwhats wrong in dapper?12:25
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RichardCraniumPaddy_EIRE, just one12:25
gnomefreakchamp: i cant help you with write not much help with mounting but try this link12:26
RichardCraniumPaddy_EIRE, they mount when I do it manually12:26
Paddy_EIREk12:26
gnomefreak!ntfs12:26
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse12:26
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champgnomefreak: thanx... very much appreciated^^12:27
glicka quick question, how can i make it so that a user can not look at another users files?12:27
constrictedumm what do all the !whatever mean? they dont do anything in terminal12:27
Rookie_hello ubotu12:27
gnomefreakconstricted: !fact retrieve fact from the bot12:27
gnomefreakconstricted: perferred way is to use /msg ubotu fact12:28
frogzooCrissi: strace ?12:28
RichardCraniumyeah thats just weird  - the drive cant mount cds unless I do it manually - udf had nothing to do with it12:28
constrictedthanks12:28
constricted!fact12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fact - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
glickdoes anyone know how to make it so a user cant view another users files?12:28
Nothing_abouthey12:29
Nothing_aboutim back with a question12:29
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frogzooglick: remove group read & execute on the directory12:29
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normalI'm gonna try using smartbootmanager to install... Good luck to Me!!!(selfish, but I've been  trying for 2 weeks!)12:29
Nothing_abouti need some help here people12:29
frogzooglick: remove group/everyone read & execute on the directory12:29
Nothing_aboutbecause i dont know what im doing12:29
Nothing_aboutbut im learning some new stuff12:29
glickwho the hell is this priher guy and why is he msging me weird stuff?12:29
Rookie_ask the Q instead of saying alot of other things12:29
frogzooNothing_about: just say what your problem is, if someone can help, they will12:30
KenSentMeNothing_about: you're typing in an irc channel :P12:30
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Nothing_aboutok well im trying to install this vmware tools onto the lattest ubuntu12:30
soundrayglick: To hide files of user1: chmod -R o-rwx /home/user112:30
frogzooNothing_about: meaning dapper, Yes?12:30
soundrayglick: read up on chmod with man chmod12:30
Nothing_aboutproblem is while i was following instructions it asks me to get sudo privilages12:30
Nothing_aboutyeh dapper12:30
Nothing_aboutpretty much ive extracted the trgz12:31
frogzooNothing_about: fine so far12:31
gnomefreakpriher: please respect others enough to ask before pming them thank you12:31
gnomefreakbrb12:31
Nothing_aboutand now im in my command prompt and going sudo dir desktop/vmware-tools-distrib12:31
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Nothing_aboutand now it asks that i start vmware-install.pl12:32
Crissifrogzoo: http://paste.debian.net/1496212:32
glicki think i have the perfect x-mas present for my mom...her very own laptop running ubuntu12:32
Nothing_aboutso should i type in12:32
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frogzooNothing_about: you need to cd to the 'vmware-player-distrib' directory, then 'sudo ./vmware-install.pl', as per the docs12:32
Nothing_aboutsudo dir Desktop/vmware-tools-distrib/vmware-install.pl ? to start vmware tool install or is this the wrong way to do it ? and how do i do it properly12:33
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Nothing_aboutwhat do you mean cd the vmware player ?12:33
KEA0463 does anyone know about the ati fireGl v7200 graphics card12:33
Paddy_EIREgnomefreak: can i pm u a sec12:33
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KEA0463trying to figure out what watt power box it needs12:34
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KEA0463400 watts or 450 watts12:34
asabilhi all12:34
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adammk!restricted12:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:34
soundrayglick: have you read my response?12:34
frogzooNothing_about: use the 'cd' command changes directories12:34
glickyeah soundray thanks12:34
asabilis it possible to request a .deb package here ?12:35
Nothing_aboutwell problem is im a newbie12:35
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Nothing_aboutand im learning everything from scratch12:35
Nothing_aboutso i dont know what im talking about half the time12:35
Nothing_aboutbut i understand some of it ... can you plz help install this succesfully12:35
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KEA0463hello12:36
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Paddy_EIREgnomefreak: how about me dropping you a quick pm, will only take a sec12:36
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RichardCraniumPaddy_EIRE, got any idea what would cause my error?12:36
KEA0463how many watts does powerbox need to be for ati fireGL V7200 to work?12:36
frogzooCrissi: if this help any, I can run that command against a kernel image, and it works fine12:36
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KEA0463400 or 450?12:37
Nothing_aboutwait12:37
Nothing_aboutfrogzoo i got ONe question12:37
asabilNothing_about, what's the roblem ?12:37
Nothing_aboutdo i need vmware tools to be installed12:37
Nothing_aboutoh well problem is i dont know how to install my vmware tools12:37
Paddy_EIRERichardCranium: sry for not gettin back to u, your entry is the exact same as mine except my cd/dvd is hdd rather that yours hdc12:37
Paddy_EIREkinda dont know12:37
Nothing_aboutbut i have the lattest ubuntu linux installed12:37
asabilno you don't, but you should12:37
aixingNothing_about: why dont you ask that question on #vmawre12:38
asabilNothing_about, running a ubuntu inside a vmware ?12:38
Nothing_abouti did12:38
frogzooCrissi: what's more, clock_gettime is returning null for some reason, probly causing sigsegv I'm guessing12:38
Nothing_aboutbut no one is there12:38
Nothing_aboutyeah12:38
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Nothing_aboutright now as we speak12:38
Nothing_aboutim running ubuntu12:38
aixingwell.. its not really an Ubuntu issues is it?12:38
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frogzooNothing_about: you only need vmware if you want to run virtual machines, but it's not needed for anything else12:38
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Nothing_aboutand need help installing vmware . the vmware chat room is not active and everyone is not there12:39
Nothing_aboutyeah i know12:39
Nothing_abouti wanna run virtually ubuntu so i can start to learn how to use it12:39
snowblinkNothing_about, it's not necessary to install vmware tools12:39
aixingyou can still use Ubuntu while you wait for them to respond cant you?12:39
snowblinkNothing_about, but it does help if you want to run higher screen res/colours.12:39
frogzooNothing_about: you're going to use ubuntu to run ubuntu virtually ?12:39
Nothing_aboutyeh12:39
cypher1is there any documents for interpreting the output of commands like "dpkg --list" or "dpkg --listfiles" ?12:39
Nothing_aboutyes12:40
Nothing_aboutits running virtually right now12:40
RichardCraniumPaddy_EIRE, io_32bit is not enabled -might that have something to do with it or is it supposed to be like that?12:40
snowblinkNothing_about, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal12:40
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Nothing_aboutok12:40
snowblinkcd /media12:40
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frogzooNothing_about: I suggest you start with a basic ubuntu install on a spare partition, and work up to figuring out vmware12:40
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aixingin my experience, like snowbike says its not neccessary, but to get a good idea of what you may be missing out ono wait and ask them on #vmware12:40
Nothing_aboutoh but i cant12:41
vito_corleonehey how do i remove ubuntu from the comp...12:41
Paddy_EIRERichardCranium: i cant be sure12:41
Nothing_aboutthats one of the problems12:41
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vito_corleonecan i just reformate the linux parion??12:41
frogzoovito_corleone: format the ubuntu partitions12:41
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vito_corleonefrogzoo: ah k thanks ...:)12:41
Nothing_aboutnow what terminal is running12:41
asabilvito_corleone, why are you leaving ?12:41
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frogzoovito_corleone: if you want grub gone, you'll need to do a /fixmbr12:41
inzyi'm having probs installing nvidia drivers? my xorg.conf changes part way through the process, from an nvidia quadro to a radeon when i run the line to update the md5sum12:42
vito_corleoneasneed some space for backing up stuff...12:42
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snowblinkNothing_about, have you told VMWare that you want to install the tools?12:42
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Nothing_aboutyes12:42
vito_corleoneasabil: need spave for backing stuff12:42
Nothing_aboutvmware tools cd is on the desktop12:42
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snowblinkNothing_about, hang on, while I bring up Ubuntu in a VM...12:42
frogzoozcat[1] : devine "normal"  - heh12:42
constrictedhmmm how come 16 by 1200 isnt on the change resolution?12:42
zcat[1] frogzoo: oh, I see you said that12:42
Nothing_aboutok12:42
vito_corleoneasabil: space*... will install the new beta version later....12:42
asabilokey vito_corleone12:43
shans_homeis there anyway to stop 'lock screen' from activating when I close the lid of my laptop?12:43
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zcat[1] normal == not grub :)12:43
Nothing_abouthey snowblink go to #vmware its empty and no one is talking12:43
shans_home(dapper)12:43
zcat[1] shans_home: 'don't close it' :-)12:43
shans_homezcat[1] : thanks12:43
frogzooshans_home: in power prefs12:43
shans_homefrogzoo: aaah, OK12:43
snowblinkNothing_about, probably ##vmware... anyway12:43
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snowblinkNothing_about, double click the icon on the desktop12:44
shans_homefrogzoo: set it to do nothing?12:44
snowblinkNothing_about, you should see two files12:44
Nothing_aboutyes12:44
frogzooshans_home: this a trick question ?12:44
snowblinkNothing_about, drag the tar.gz to your desktop12:44
Nothing_aboutthere are two files12:44
Nothing_aboutok12:44
Nothing_aboutbrb12:44
shans_homefrogzoo: no, it just seems strange that 'blank screen' actually means 'blank and lock screen'12:44
shans_homebut it works!12:44
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shans_homethanks :)12:44
snowblinkNothing_about, in your terminal: cd ~/Desktop12:45
Nothing_aboutok12:45
vito_corleoneasabil: hey how is hte beta version of edgy???12:45
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Nothing_about<snowblink> ok so i go to terminal in apps12:45
snowblinkNothing_about, tar xvzf VMWare*12:45
_hAPPY_mAJAAnyone knowing ow to get to know what app using hw:0?12:45
Nothing_aboutso in terminal i type cd~/desktop12:46
asabilvito_corleone, fine, has some bugs, but quite fine12:46
frogzoo_hAPPY_mAJA: lsof or fuser12:46
snowblinkNothing_about, case sensitive12:46
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Fibbshi folks12:46
_hAPPY_mAJAfrogzoo: thanks12:46
vito_corleoneasabil: alright ill try it then...12:46
vito_corleoneasabil: any idea when the final version is gonna come out?12:46
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snowblinkNothing_about, ?12:47
RichardCraniumhow do I link my 32 bit libs so I can use them when I run apps?12:47
asabil28 oct12:47
Nothing_aboutok12:47
RichardCraniumim trying to run ut200412:47
snowblinkNothing_about, have you untarred that file?12:47
Nothing_about<snowblink> ok well ive done cd ~ /Desktop12:47
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Fibbsi have a problem: did install postfix and copied over my old configs, but too much because the postfix-scripts where not compatible. I now want to uninstall all postfix stuff and create all /etc/postfix files another time by installing postfix (standard files), how to do this?12:47
Nothing_aboutcould i just right click and extract here ?12:47
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snowblinkNothing_about, tar xvzf VMWare*12:47
Nothing_about<snowblink> could i just right clikc and extract here ?12:47
zcat[1] zZzZ - g'night all.. nearly midnight here.12:48
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Nothing_aboutok so i type tar xvzf VMware* in terminal12:48
snowblinkNothing_about, yes12:48
Nothing_aboutok brb12:48
Nothing_aboutok12:49
Nothing_aboutwell it couldnt open or etract file12:49
Nothing_aboutsaid something about no such directory12:49
Nothing_aboutand im in my desktop12:49
snowblinkNothing_about, did you drag the file to the desktop?12:49
Nothing_aboutyes12:50
snowblinkNothing_about, then the tar.gz file should be there12:50
Nothing_aboutits called VMwareTools12:50
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_hAPPY_mAJAfrozoo: I cant fins anything. Actually dont understand the what the list is about. I just want to know what program using hw:0, and how i do to terminate it.12:50
_hAPPY_mAJAAny idea?12:50
snowblinkNothing_about, reread my instructions from the beginning12:50
Nothing_aboutThe file you asked to drag was VMwareTools-5.5.2-29772.tar.gz12:50
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snowblinkNothing_about, correct12:51
Nothing_aboutok from the point where i type in cd ~ / Desktop12:51
snowblinkNothing_about, there should only be one space in that command12:51
Nothing_aboutoh12:52
_hAPPY_mAJA I want to know what program using hw:0, and how i do to terminate it. Anyone?12:52
Nothing_aboutwoops12:52
Nothing_aboutlol12:52
inzyhey, can anyone here help with nvidia drivers - I'm getting weird xorg.conf behaviour when i install, no help from the wiki?12:52
Nothing_aboutbrb12:52
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Nothing_aboutok12:52
Nothing_aboutnow were are getting somewhere12:52
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Nothing_aboutim in desktop12:52
mike_sternhow can i get a full updated new fresh source.list12:52
Nothing_aboutnow type in tar xvzf VMware*12:52
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Nothing_about?12:52
sHAnAnAhi ctc12:52
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snowblinkNothing_about, sure12:53
mike_sterngetting always this error!!12:53
mike_sternroot@snoopy:~# sudo apt-get install apache212:53
mike_sternE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:53
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Nothing_about<snowblink> Ok its now extracting12:53
Nothing_abouteverything12:54
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snowblinkNothing_about, cd vmware-tools-distrib12:54
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mike_sternno info on google!12:54
Nothing_about<snowblink>ok now cd vmware-tools-distrib12:54
jackedmike_stern: ntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper12:55
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Nothing_about<snowblink> done12:55
jackedwoops12:55
Nothing_about<snowblink> now what ?12:55
kyjanope, that realy did not fix my problem with ati card :-(12:55
snowblinkNothing_about, sudo ./vmware-tools.pl12:55
jackedmike_stern: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper12:55
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mike_sterni read that doc!12:55
mike_sterndidnt help :(12:55
snowblinkNothing_about, sorry, sudo ./vmware-install.pl12:56
jackedmike_stern: you didn't read it...     http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories12:56
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mike_sterni added!12:56
mike_sterndidnt work12:56
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jackedmike_stern: added to /etc/apt/sources.list?12:56
snowblinkmike_stern, have you got the gui updater open?12:57
Nothing_about<snowblink> so i type in sudo " space "./vmware-install.pl ??12:57
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snowblinkNothing_about, yes12:57
mike_sternno12:57
mike_sterni only have console12:57
Nothing_aboutok brb12:57
lara_hola12:57
lara_k tal12:57
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jackedmike_stern: do this...   apt-get update12:58
mnepton!es > lara12:58
jackedsudo apt-get update12:58
lara_alguie para blar12:58
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snowblinkmike_stern, your error message suggests another process is using dpkg...12:58
Nothing_about<snowblink> well it comes up as directory not found12:58
mike_sternwat shall i do?12:58
snowblinkNothing_about, pwd12:59
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Nothing_about<snowblink> is that bad or whats up ?12:59
jackedmike_stern: sorry, I must have missed something.  tell me what is happening12:59
jackedplease12:59
snowblinkNothing_about, tell me the output of pwd12:59
Nothing_abouti type in pwd12:59
Nothing_aboutok brb12:59
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Nothing_about<snowblink> it says /home/darkphat/Desktop/vmware-tools-distrib01:00
jackedmike_stern: do you get an error message when you type 'sudo apt-get update'?01:00
mike_sternyea01:00
snowblinkNothing_about, sudo ./vmware-install.pl01:01
mike_sternanyways i will try to solve alone dont want to waste your time01:01
asabilanyone willing to make a .deb ?01:01
Nothing_about<snowblink> ok ill go try again01:01
jackedcan you tell me what the error is?  (if it is long, use pastebin.ca)01:01
jackedmike_stern: it's okay, I don't mind.01:01
Nothing_about<snowblink> ok well it says command not found ?01:02
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Nothing_about<snowblink> ive typed in sudo ./vmware-tools.pl01:02
snowblinkNothing_about, sudo ./vmware-install.pl01:03
snowblinkmike_stern, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update01:03
Nothing_about<snowblink> ok i need to ask where should i put the dot ./vmware-tools.pl01:03
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mike_sternclean?01:03
RichardCranium./ut2004-bin-linux-amd64: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:03
RichardCraniumany clue anyone?01:03
Nothing_about<snowblink> should i press space between dot and sudo ?01:04
jackedmike_stern: 'apt-get install -f'  <-- you may try that01:04
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mneptonRichardCranium:s sudo apt-get install build-essential01:04
snowblinkNothing_about, vmware-install.pl not vmware-tools.pl01:04
RichardCraniumI sure hope that works01:04
Nothing_aboutlol01:04
Nothing_about<snowblink> OMG01:04
Nothing_aboutwoops01:04
Nothing_about<snowblink> im such a newbie01:04
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Nothing_about<snowblink> brb01:04
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mike_sternworking!01:05
RichardCraniummnepton, do i need to log out or anything01:05
jackedmike_stern: :)01:05
mneptonRichardCranium: shouldn;t need to, no01:05
mike_sternthank you guys01:05
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RichardCraniumhmph mnepton I dont think that installed the file I need01:05
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mneptonRichardCranium: sudo updatedb && locate libstdc++01:06
mike_sternok 1 more question01:06
RichardCraniummnepton, it only shows up in my /usr/lib3201:06
mike_sterni need to read log files of users requestiong pages from apache01:06
mike_sternwhere is that file?01:06
snowblinkmike_stern, /var/log/apache201:06
mneptonmike_stern: /var/log01:06
RichardCraniummnepton, the so.5 version is only in lib3201:06
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mike_sterngreat01:07
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RichardCraniummnepton, if i try to install the old version it wants to install gcc 3.301:07
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Nothing_about<snowblink> hey01:08
Nothing_about<snowblink> i know what the problem is that the command aint working01:09
Nothing_aboutthe wmare-tool.pl file you have is called within the file i have01:09
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Nothing_about<snowblink> vmware-install.pl01:09
snowblinkponingru, heh - give the newbie a break01:09
Nothing_abouthey which directory do i want to install the binary files ?01:10
Crissifrogzoo: http://paste.debian.net/1496501:10
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Nothing_about<snowblink>[/usr/bin]  ?01:11
snowblinkNothing_about, accept the defaults01:11
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Nothing_aboutso just press enter01:11
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snowblinkNothing_about, sure01:12
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Nothing_about<snowblink> what is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6d/) ? [/etc] 01:12
Crissiwhy the package quality of ubuntu is soo bad? Yes, its dapper.01:13
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Nothing_about<snowblink> what should i do ??01:13
snowblinkNothing_about, Accept the defaults01:13
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frogzooCrissi: fprintf bombs because clock_gettime returned null, dunno  why01:13
Crissifrogzoo: on debian it has worked01:13
constrictedwhats the command line to change the permissions for a folder?01:13
Crissithis should never happen on stable01:14
constrictedi cant change in the gui cause it says im not the owner (root)01:14
Crissiits a fresh dapper install01:14
Crissi2 days old01:14
Nothing_about<snowblink> ok so far ive just pressed enter01:14
Nothing_about<snowblink> now its asking In which directory do you want to install the doc files ?01:14
Crissii think i sholuld kick ubuntu because i got a lot of troubles01:14
jackedconstricted: sudo chmod <permissions> -R <folder>01:14
snowblinkNothing_about, hmm.... keep pressing enter until you get an error01:15
jackedconstricted: if you give me the permissions you want to set and the folder I'll give you something more complete01:15
Crissithe ubuntu ppl really should do quality management01:15
Nothing_about<snowblink> OK NOW installation of vmware tools 5.5.2 build -29772 for linux completed successfully01:15
Nothing_about<snowblink> cd icon isgone01:15
jackedconstricted: err... the line I gave you above will change the files inside the folder too01:15
Nothing_about<snowblink> says before running vmware tools for the first time01:15
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snowblinkNothing_about, good. Restart your Ubuntu VM.01:15
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Crissiremember the cups desaster. i had seen that before dapper was released but nobody has fixed it before release01:16
constrictedthanks, and if i wanted user whyso to  be able to sudo chmod whyso -R /media/sda101:16
Nothing_about<snowblink> i need to configuyr it by invoking the following command :"/usr/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl" do you want this program to invoke the command for you now [yes]  ?????01:16
snowblinkNothing_about, ah yes that bit01:16
snowblinkNothing_about, before you do that01:16
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jackedconstricted: if you want to change the owner (only do this in your /home/<your login name> directory), you may want to use chown...01:17
Nothing_about<snowblink> yeh what do i do its asking for a yes or i dont know ??01:17
Crissiso i cant recommend ubuntu01:17
Crissiits too bad.01:17
snowblinkNothing_about, say no01:17
Nothing_aboutok01:17
constrictedok01:17
Nothing_aboutjust type no01:17
snowblinkNothing_about, sudo apt-get install linux-headers01:17
Nothing_aboutand press enter01:17
mneptonCrissi: what "CUPS disaster?"01:17
Crissimnepton: you dont know it??????01:17
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Nothing_about<snowblink> ok type no and press enter ?01:18
snowblinkNothing_about, yes01:18
mneptonCrissi: yes, i do. i just really like typing the words "what CUPS disaster."01:18
snowblinkNothing_about, You should be back on command line01:18
jackedlol01:18
snowblinkNothing_about, have to make sure you have the headers installed before continuing01:18
Nothing_about<snowblink> yeh back to cmd line01:18
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snowblinkNothing_about, sudo apt-get install linux-headers01:18
Nothing_about<snowblink>ok brb need to type command01:18
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hypn0hello, anyone installed yahoo messenger? do yahoo deb/s exist? is webcam feature available?01:19
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jackedhypn0: use gaim (no webcam though)01:20
mneptonhypn0: GAIM01:20
Nothing_about<snowblink> ok done something01:20
Crissimnepton: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/418?from=2001:20
Nothing_aboutlinux heads came up01:20
boinkhypn0: you can use GAIM01:20
boinkand yahoo does have debian .debs for its messenger01:20
Crissihypn0: sim01:20
Nothing_about<snowblink> now its says You should explicity select one to install01:20
Crissior kopete01:20
Crissibut i recommemd sim01:20
Nothing_about<snowblink> E: Package linux heads has no installation candidate01:20
boinkis sim better than gaim?01:20
Crissiyes01:20
Crissii think01:20
Nothing_about<snowblink> and its back to command line01:20
Crissiwww.sim-im.org01:20
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boinkgaim is just the best know01:21
Crissino01:21
constrictedhmmmm chown whyso /tmp/disks-conf-sdc1 isnt working :(01:21
Crissisim is better... if you have tried you will know what i mean01:21
Nothing_about<snowblink> So which linx header is the right now to install and how ?01:21
jackedconstricted: you'll have to put 'sudo' before that01:22
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snowblinkNothing_about, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential01:22
constrictedoh ok thanks01:22
jackedconstricted: np01:22
Nothing_about<snowblink> and what will that do ?01:22
snowblinkNothing_about, install your headers and build tools necessary for the next part01:22
Nothing_about<snowblink> ok brb need to type code01:23
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constrictedstill not working, chown report successful, but owner still root01:24
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Crissihere is your bug: http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20060430.181654.76d091a9.en.html01:24
Crissiso bad....01:24
constrictedwhyso@Andrew:~$ sudo chown whyso /tmp/disks-conf-sdc101:24
constrictedchown: changing ownership of `/tmp/disks-conf-sdc1': Read-only file system01:24
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Nothing_about<snowblink> ok well it had Reading package lists . Done01:25
jackedconstricted: oh, didn't I suggest that you shouldn't use chown outside of your home directory?01:25
Nothing_about<snowblink> Building dependency tree . Done01:25
Nothing_about<snowblink> but E: Couldnt find package linux headrs -uname -r01:25
constrictedoops didnt see that :( did i just mess something up?01:26
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jackedconstricted: copy the file to your home dir first, or use sudo before writing the file01:26
snowblinkNothing_about, sorry cannot help you more - have to get back to work. Remember to type stuff exactly as people tell you to...01:26
Nothing_aboutso01:26
Nothing_aboutwhats up01:26
jackedconstricted: no, it'll be fine01:27
Nothing_aboutim going to mess things up01:27
Nothing_aboutif i restart comp01:27
snowblinkNothing_about, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server?from=10&comments_per_page=1001:27
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Nothing_about<snowblink> thank you for the link01:27
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snowblinkNothing_about, should be pretty straightforward. Good luck!01:28
Nothing_about<snowblink> thnxz for the help01:28
Nothing_aboutwell at least i know vmware tools are installed01:28
snowblinkNothing_about, np01:28
dbglthow stable is the new edgy better? Good enough just for a home user?01:28
Nothing_abouti just have to restart dont i01:28
Nothing_aboutafter i install right headers01:28
Nothing_aboutOH one question what are linux headers anyways ?01:28
timhaughtonIs Edgy still pencilled in for release this month?01:29
jackeddbglt: it's pretty good. depends on how time-critical your personal computing is (mostly).01:29
dbgltwhat does that mean?01:29
jackedtimhaughton: yes01:29
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timhaughtonjacked: Groovy. Thanks01:31
jackeddbglt: it means that it isn't recommended for install if you're not prepared for something to go wrong.  but I'll tell you, my personal experience is that I haven't seen a lot of problems lately (i've been running edgy for 2 months)01:31
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Paddy_EIREhey guys I have no experience with vmware player and was wondering how I would install win 2000/xp with this.  I have both cds01:34
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constrictedhmmmm i cant figure out how to access this removeable ntfs HD still :(01:34
silent_screamyou have to install vmware workstation01:35
silent_screamPaddy_EIRE,01:35
aixingPaddy_EIRE: you cant do it with just the player01:35
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silent_screamit's easier01:35
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aixingPaddy_EIRE: You need the workstation, like silent says or you can go for the free server version01:36
jackedconstricted: are you able to mount it?01:36
constrictedyup01:36
dbgltyou can install an image01:36
dbgltit is just harder01:36
constrictedall mounted up01:36
dbglthave a search around for how to do it01:36
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jackedconstricted: what is the mount point?01:37
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constricted /media/sdc101:37
Paddy_EIREvmware workstation will this cost me01:38
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jackedconstricted: sudo ls /media/sdc101:38
jackeddoes that return anything?01:38
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constrictedyup works01:38
constrictedi just need to copy stuff over to ubuntu now01:38
huangzuobinhey,there are some words missing in my irc,how to do that?using xchat01:38
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constrictedwhats comand line for that?01:39
jackedsudo nautilus /media/sdc101:39
constrictedsweet!!!! i kept leaving out natilus hehe01:39
constrictedty so much01:39
jacked(or nautilus /media/sdc1 if it will let you)01:39
Paddy_EIREaixing: im not looking to run a server will the workstation cost me01:40
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constrictednope, thats what kept not working (they should have a open as sudo option)01:40
gnomefreakgksudo should be used for gui apps01:40
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jackedconstricted: you can install it as a 'nautilus-script'01:41
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jackedgnomefreak: true01:41
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aixingPaddy_EIRE: yes it will... the server actually does the same thing.. except you are missing 1 or two things, but have the ability to run it as a service [speaking windows now] 01:41
Paddy_EIRE!script01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about script - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
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jeanrehey all01:42
Paddy_EIREaixing: are the 1 or 2 things that are missing something that will be missed01:42
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chrishoeppnerHi01:44
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aixingPaddy_EIRE: I can't remember 1 of them, but the other is USB support01:44
chrishoeppneranyone know how I can check for compile options withing a deb package? I mean... if I install binary package X, how do I know which compile options have been used?01:44
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Paddy_EIREaixing: is there a free free way of getting any other os running as a virtual machine in linux?01:45
aixingPaddy_EIRE: my advice is that you try it and see, its free so nothing to lose. if you find that you need the stuff missing then buy the workstation version01:45
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Paddy_EIREi suppose01:46
aixingthere is XEN01:46
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Paddy_EIREno open source alternative then01:46
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aixingbut i have not used it, and not sure how well it works with windows01:46
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Paddy_EIREtrying to keep commercial software in the past01:46
aixingthere are loads of alternatives, but XEN is the main one that gets mentioned along side vmware and virtual PC01:47
jackedPaddy_EIRE: would QEMU not be considered a VM?01:47
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Paddy_EIREexcept for windows os, which I already paid for just dont wanna waste money01:47
aixingyes that's another one01:47
jackedPaddy_EIRE: or just not free free01:47
Paddy_EIRE!qemu01:47
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo01:47
Paddy_EIREnice one :)01:47
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Paddy_EIRE!xen01:48
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy01:48
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aixingi would go with the free version of vmware or xen01:48
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aixing[but that's me]  :>01:48
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jackedPaddy_EIRE: ignorant question, sorry, but what is the difference between an emulator and a VM?01:48
easytigerhow do i delete *everything* from evolution.. its keeping stuff i want to remove01:49
Paddy_EIREi have no idea01:49
ShaunESAnyone have any suggestions on how to limit users to a pre-set number of commands?01:49
k3nobihi, who can I setup write permissions for my external usbdisk?01:49
easytigera Vm might do more than pretend to just be another machine01:49
ShaunESIE, only allow nano, ls, cd, cp, mv, irssi, rm and chroot them to a different place?01:49
Paddy_EIREwell a confusing idea anyway01:49
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RichardCraniumif I could do xen + winxp 64 id do it01:49
jackedPaddy_EIRE: is there a difference in function?01:50
Paddy_EIREi would say so01:50
aixingShaunES: I am no way near an expert [yet] , but my guess would be to change the default PATHS that users get whan the logon01:50
ShaunESHrm..01:50
jackedk3nobi: what file system does is use?01:50
aixingalso, maybe creating a new PATH, and putting the commands [programs]  you want them to be able to use in that PATH01:51
timhaughtonAnyone know if the enctypted partition option made its way into the Edgy installer?01:51
YaakovAn emulator pretends to be something it isn't (e.g.: x86 on PowerPC); a VM is a way of providing access to what appears to be a "machine", and it might run an emulator or an OS.01:51
k3nobijacked: ext301:51
aixingand then of cos make that their default PATHS01:51
k3nobijacked: it's read only for the users01:51
RichardCraniumthe amd64 unreal runs great on ubuntu amd64-generic01:51
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RichardCraniumhappy to report01:52
YaakovSo, VirtualPC running under OS X provides both VMs AND an x86 emulator to host OSs that need x86.01:52
jackedk3nobi: sudo chmod a+rw -R /path/to/device01:52
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aixingYaakov: yes, i believe so01:52
jeanreUbuntu 4.0.3 is dapper?01:52
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boinkjeanre: no01:52
RichardCranium6.06 is dapper01:52
boinkdapper is 6.0601:52
YaakovOn the other hand, a VM running on an x86 processor and hosting an x86 OS needn't emulate anything.01:52
boink!dapper01:53
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"01:53
jeanrehmmmm01:53
RopechoborraIsnt that hoary?01:53
jeanrewhat is that then?01:53
boinksounds ancient01:53
Ropechoborraor warty01:53
boink!hoary01:53
ubotuhoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"01:53
boink!warty01:53
ubotuwarty was the first release of Ubuntu. Version 4.10, codename "Warty Warthog"01:53
jeanreits xubuntu actually01:53
RichardCraniumYaakov, can one do windows and linux simultaneously with xen01:53
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boinkjeanre: in any case, it's ancient01:53
Ropechoborra5.04 is hoary01:53
jeanrecan one upgrade without breaking anything01:53
boinkby updating your /etc/apt/sources.list01:54
RopechoborraI guess is warty :P01:54
jeanreboink: for xubuntu?01:54
Paddy_EIREjeanre:  i would think so, although backup01:54
Paddy_EIRE!backup01:54
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi01:54
jeanreI know I can edit that to update01:54
boinksure, xubuntu works just like ubuntu/kubuntu01:54
Paddy_EIRE!upgrade01:54
brush01ukGreetings Everyone, have a good day .......01:54
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:54
jeanrebut I would not know what to change01:54
boinkby updating your /etc/apt/sources.list01:54
constrictedhow do i change permissions to write for folder /home/whyso/Desktop for user whyso01:54
aixingRichardCranium: If you mean can one have more than 2 guest OS on the same system one running linux and the other windows... then YES01:54
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YaakovRichardCranium: Yes.  As with any VM provider, such as QEMU.01:54
RichardCraniumwow! how do I switch between os's?01:55
Ropechoborra!upgrade > jeanre01:55
YaakovThough that is not as "pure" an option as Xen, I believe.01:55
Paddy_EIRERichardCranium: win will be in a window01:55
RichardCraniumi have virtualiztion support in the CPU01:55
YaakovRichardCranium: They run in windows.01:55
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RichardCraniumpaddy how about 3d apps?01:55
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RichardCraniumthis is sounding fantastic if I can run games01:56
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YaakovXen, though, requires PORTED VERSIONS of the OS.01:56
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Paddy_EIRERichardCranium: will work the same except remember you are running 2 os's so performance will be slower01:56
jackedconstricted: sudo chown whyso:whyso (assuming that's your group name) /home/whyso/Desktop01:56
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RichardCraniumell ive got dual core01:56
YaakovRichardCranium: Whereas QEMU doesn't.01:56
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aixingalright peeps, i am off for now cya01:56
Paddy_EIRERichardCranium: well that would be you sorted01:56
Paddy_EIRE:)01:56
jeanrequestion can I go straight to edgy?01:56
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YaakovRichardCranium: Right now I think Windows support in Xen is experimental.01:56
jackedconstricted: sudo chmod o+w -R /home/whyso/Desktop01:56
RichardCraniumYaakov, experimental = poop01:57
boinkI've never done such an update, jeanre .. from warty to dapper01:57
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boinkyou could take it one step at a time01:57
RichardCraniumok all im outtie for a bit, props for doing what gentoo cant yet01:57
YaakovRichardCranium: QEMU also offers CPU emulators, like ARM and SPARC.01:57
J_Phi all01:57
jackedjeanre: it seems to me that an upgrade like that isn't supported01:58
jackedjeanre: I'm quite sure I remember reading that01:58
poningruhow long does prelink take?01:58
k3nobijacked: no that wont help, the problem is on the mount level, not on the node level01:58
boinkso, upgrade to the next release01:58
Paddy_EIRE!warty01:58
ubotuwarty was the first release of Ubuntu. Version 4.10, codename "Warty Warthog"01:58
k3nobijacked: the nodes are created dynamically everytime you plug in the ubs device01:58
boinkthat would by hoary. that should work fine01:58
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boink!hoary01:58
ubotuhoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"01:58
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constrictedchmod  isnt doing anything :(01:59
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constrictedty for help again tho :)01:59
Paddy_EIRE!chmod02:00
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux02:00
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Paddy_EIRE!cake02:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:01
jackedk3nobi: okay.  well.  umount the device02:01
jackedk3nobi: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/<device>02:01
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jackedk3nobi: then you should be able to reach everything as root02:02
jackederrr...02:02
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jackedk3nobi: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/<device> /media/<empty folder>02:02
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Rur0un1help us obi , lol02:03
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rubsohey guys, please i need help :(02:03
Paddy_EIRE!ask02:03
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:03
Rur0un1what's up rubso02:03
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rubsoafter updating my system, my X Windows won't start and my Atheroes Wireless card won't start too02:03
rubso:'(02:03
k3nobijacked: yes but this is a one time solution, I'm longing more for a generic solution because I usualy turn on and of my client02:03
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k3nobirubso: hh02:04
Rur0un1rubso, when did you make last update ?02:04
rubsotoday02:04
k3nobiI mean: Rur0un1 hh02:04
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Rur0un1rubso, and the one before ?02:04
rubsothere was nothing before!02:04
k3nobijacked: i could but it in fstab02:04
easytigerno evolution users?02:04
Rur0un1rubso, was this the first time you upgraded your system after the installation ?02:04
k3nobiwould ubuntu like it to edit my fstab?02:05
Rur0un1easytiger, I do02:05
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kandalaAny Thunderbird users here?02:05
rubso=( no help?02:05
easytiger<Rur0un1>: i can't get rid of "on this computer" mail02:05
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easytigerits an old account i no longer want02:05
easytigerany dieas02:05
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andyshackevening folks. ive got two ubuntu boxes that firefox is unwilling to work on. everything else works and it seems a bit odd. can anyone point me to the right forum ?02:05
Rur0un1easytiger, why do you want to get rid of it ?02:05
easytiger<Rur0un1>: its an old account i no longer use02:06
k3nobiandyshack: what exactly is not working?02:06
jackedk3nobi: what is the side of the usb storage device?02:06
qwe1hello, how do I tell the system that I want to open a certain file extension with a special Programm. I am looking for the configuration file.02:06
k3nobijacked: the side?02:06
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Rur0un1easytiger, then remove the account02:06
jackedk3nobi: what is the size of the usb storage device?02:06
andyshackk3nobi : type in url and nothing loads.02:06
jackedk3nobi: sorry02:06
Volstrupqwe1: the system? Is it from Nautilus, the filemanager?02:06
easytiger<Rur0un1>: i did.... but all the mail still remains02:06
k3nobijacked: arround 30gb02:06
easytigeri even deleted the .evolution folder02:06
andyshackall services are running, apache is even hapiily serving on one of them.02:06
jeanreok now there crunch question does xgl work with ati xpress 200m cards? with beryl02:07
qwe1volstrup: yes in Nautilus02:07
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jackedk3nobi: do you have a lot of data on there?  (what I'm getting at is... can you back it up so that you can format the drive)02:07
k3nobijacked: type /tmp in the url bar02:07
k3nobiusp02:07
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k3nobiandyshack: type /tmp in the url bar02:07
Rur0un1easytiger, I have never used multiple mailboxes in evolution. But check the folder .evolution in your home folder (it is a hidden directory in deed)02:07
k3nobijacked: sorry02:07
Volstrupqwe1: right-click and select Properties02:08
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Rur0un1easytiger, that you can remove anything manually there02:08
easytiger<Rur0un1>. i did. i deleted it.. but it doesnt remove existing messages.02:08
easytigeri'll just delete them02:08
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qwe1Volstrup: is there also a configuration file? Because some of the options I would like to delete02:08
andyshackyeah that works,02:08
andyshackthe fkr seems to be working now, well it said hi to google anyway.02:09
Volstrupqwe1: probably. Why is it important, if you just select you favorite app?02:09
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qwe1Volstrup: I just tested it. It works fine. I would just like to know where this configuration is stored02:10
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Volstrupqwe1: user settings is saved in ~/.nautilus/02:10
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VxD_bonjour, j'ai un problme sous ubuntu, quand je lances n'importes quel jeu qui as des .jpg, a bug. des fichiers .py que je lances par python fichier.py me fais des messages d'erreurs du genre ne peut pas charger les fichier .jpg02:12
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qwe1Volstrub: ups, lots of xml files in there02:12
nizoheloo02:12
jackedk3nobi: sorry for the delay here... um, yeah.  fstab is an option too, although it may or may not be the BEST option02:12
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VxD_oups sorry mistake with the french chan02:12
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chrishoeppnerHi. got a little problem02:12
nizowhat is the best cA02:12
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Ricochrishoeppner: just ask02:13
nizowhat is the best cache internet program in linux ?02:13
andyshacksquid02:13
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Rur0un1chrishoeppner, !ask02:13
chrishoeppneraccidentally changed owner group to the whole /usr/ directory recursively. Now i can't do sudo or su. it tells me "must be setuid root" whenever i want to su. and as non-root user i can't restore ownership to root:root02:14
Rur0un1chrishoeppner, lol02:14
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chrishoeppnerRur0un1, yeah... i know... but how do i solve this, beside live cd and mount my partition?02:14
constrictedty jacked for all the general help :)02:15
jackedchrishoeppner: oi!  jeesh02:15
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Ricochrishoeppner: what's wrong with the live cd option?02:15
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Rur0un1chrishoeppner, I am sure there is a better option02:15
Rur0un1I don't get why you can't sudo02:15
jackedconstricted: np, killin' time before studying02:15
jacked:P02:15
k3nobichrishoeppner: backup your home dir and reinstall the system02:15
chrishoeppnerRico, i can't find it right now *lol. any idea?02:15
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chrishoeppnerk31th, are you kidding?02:15
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nizookay02:16
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Rur0un1chrishoeppner, search the error in google02:16
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nizowhat is the best configration for squid02:16
Rur0un1chrishoeppner, also search how to enable su (not sudo) in google02:16
nizoi have ubuntu 6 server02:16
Rur0un1for ubuntu of course02:16
k3nobichrishoeppner: you wont be able to restore the prober permission because there are different groups in /usr. no everything is root:root02:16
k3nobie.g. games02:16
jackedchrishoeppner: when you type ls -l /usr what do you see?02:17
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easytigerwhy can't you sudo?02:17
Rur0un1k3nobi, he can give everything 777, so data will be safe02:17
chrishoeppnerroot : users02:17
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asabilanyone good at making .deb packages ?02:17
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k3nobiRur0un1: you call that save?02:17
chrishoeppnereasytiger, changed permission on /usr/sbin accidentally02:17
Rur0un1k3nobi, better than reinstalling I suppose02:17
fredlargh PNG's and older explorer versions are driving me nuts02:18
k3nobiRur0un1: why?`you can reinstall in 20 min.02:18
nizowhat is the best configration for squid cache ?02:18
rubsoGOD DAMN IT, SOMEBODY HELP, MY SYSTEM IS DEAD !02:18
easytiger<chrishoeppner>: i bet you won't mess around as root again02:18
k3nobiRur0un1: and with a /use recursively 777 you have saftey as windows02:18
chrishoeppnereasytiger, be sure.02:18
Ricochrishoeppner: if you're in the users group, can't you chgrp it back?02:18
Rur0un1k3nobi, no, configuring and tweaking the system, flash and so on even if you use auotmatix, will take at least a day02:18
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k3nobieasytiger: lol02:18
Rur0un1k3nobi, I don't mean security, I said data will be safe02:19
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Rur0un1as well as the programs will be runnable again02:19
k3nobiRur0un1: ah I see02:19
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starsyang?02:19
chrishoeppneroh hell...02:19
starsyanghello, everyone02:19
Rur0un1chrishoeppner, don't call that, if you write rm -R / at the top of the FS, there will be no cure02:20
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Rur0un1chrishoeppner, besides I still did not get why you can't sudo02:20
chrishoeppnerwan't a dump?02:20
k3nobichrishoeppner: there is a saying in my country: the one that does not listen (and makes something stupid) must feel (the pain)02:20
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chrishoeppnerk3nobi, spanish?02:21
Rur0un1I don't need a dump. just tell me why cant you sudo02:21
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easytigernot a great saying is it02:21
chrishoeppner"must be setuid root" is all i get02:21
starsyangJOIN<channel>02:21
Rur0un1or investigate it yourself02:21
Rur0un1chrishoeppner, investigate why you get this ?02:21
k3nobieasytiger: I think there are lots of other sayings aprobriate in this case02:22
k3nobiappropriatre02:22
Rur0un1chrishoeppner, I think you make sudo itself unaccessible02:22
easytigerlike "you can't handle the root"02:22
Rur0un1chrishoeppner, since it relies on /usr/bin/sudo02:22
easytigeri think he is aware of that02:23
nizosex02:23
Rur0un1sorry I lately figured it out02:23
Rur0un1hehe02:23
chrishoeppnerit's actually what i first said, Rur0un102:23
Rur0un1chrishoeppner, no , you only said you can't run sudo. not the reason02:23
Rur0un1chrishoeppner, anyway02:23
jackedchrishoeppner: can you do this   adduser root users02:23
chrishoeppnerno permission02:24
Ricothe files are owned by root though02:24
easytigertime to wack out a live cd dude02:24
jackedsudo adduser root users   (doesn't work either?)02:24
RicoHE CAN'T SUDO02:24
chrishoeppneryeah but the group isn't correct02:24
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easytigerlol02:25
RadiantFireroot already exists02:25
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jackedRico: yeah, got it bud.02:25
RadiantFireanyway02:25
RadiantFireboot into single user mode02:25
RadiantFireyou get left at a root prompt02:25
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Rur0un1chrishoeppner, I think you are out of luck02:25
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RicoRadiantFire: that uses sulogin. if sudo doesn't run perhaps sulogin won't either?02:26
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RadiantFireit will02:26
Ricoproblem solved then...02:26
chrishoeppnerRadiantFire, and how do i get into single user mode?02:26
RadiantFireits a grub boot option02:27
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RadiantFireits the "Rescue Mode"02:27
RadiantFireor in Edgy they changed it to "Single User Mode"02:27
Ricoassuming he has it 02:27
RadiantFireits a default thing02:27
chrishoeppnerRadiantFire, and how do i get into that? live cd? or via grub?02:27
RadiantFireeach kernel comes with a regular and the emergency mode02:27
RadiantFiregrub02:27
Ricoah it's called recovery mode02:28
Ricoaka the 'single' kernel option02:28
Rur0un1Edgy rocks by the way02:28
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klarkinhi there02:28
klarkinjust a quick question i hope02:28
chrishoeppnerRadiantFire, you're the man. i'll then restore ownership to root:root. this should fix it, don't it?02:28
klarkin:)02:28
Rur0un1klarkin, !ask02:28
RadiantFirei don't know02:28
Ricochrishoeppner: chmod it 755 to be safe...02:29
klarkinspellcheck in openoffice202:29
RadiantFirei would think os02:29
klarkin= not spellchecking02:29
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chrishoeppnerRadiantFire, thank you lots. i'm off to try.02:29
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vivi_hi everybodi02:29
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klarkinhi02:29
vivi_how are they today?02:30
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vivi_how are you klarkin?02:31
klarkina bit miffed i cannot get the spellcheck in openoffice2 to work02:31
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klarkinand you vivi_? how are you02:32
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vivi_i find , thank you02:32
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Focvivi_ replace "find" with "fine" ;)02:34
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vivi_.....02:34
klarkin:)02:34
PoromenosHi, I'm trying to create another user with useradd but that user can see the files of all users in the /home/ dir02:34
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Poromenosany way to avoid that?02:35
vivi_I don't speak english!02:35
vivi_:D02:35
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klarkinme either02:35
klarkinand i am from england02:36
klarkin:P02:36
vivi_hihi:D02:36
RicoPoromenos: chmod other home directories to something like 70002:36
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RicoPoromenos: in particular, the execute bit for a directory determines if other users can cd into it02:36
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vivi_you are boy or gilr?02:36
jackedklarkin: have you tried going to File -> Wizards -> Install New Dictionaries?02:37
PoromenosRico: Hmm, okay. This might cause problems with my apache and stuff though, I'll see, thanks :)02:37
RicoPoromenos: chgrp all your home files into a group that this new user is not part of02:37
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vivi_are you boy or girl klarkin?02:37
RicoPoromenos: then add your apache user to that group02:37
PoromenosRico: Ah, okay, thanks :)02:37
KenSentMe!offtopic > vivi_02:38
TLEI'm trying to do some statistics on how well the official drivers from ATI and NVIDIA work for everybody. So I've started this poll on the subject: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278352 Please consider voting.!02:38
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klarkinjacked: yup just done that now and works fine - cheers02:40
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PoromenosRico: where can i learn more about groups? i am having some trouble02:40
vivi_I sorry, but I'm off, because I going to learn02:40
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klarkinciao vivi_02:40
vivi_hi02:40
mm2000Hi, how can i updrage my "locale" to more countries?02:41
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klarkinokee off also02:41
klarkinltrz02:41
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fyrestrtr!locales02:41
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf02:41
Poromenos!groups02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:42
Poromenos:(02:42
RicoPoromenos: addgroup <group>, adduser <user> <group>02:42
Ricotype 'id' to see what groups you're currently in02:42
Rico'groups' would also work02:42
Poromenosaha, hmm02:42
hid3 I've compiled my kernel with raid(1) support. I've set up raid1 in my raid bios. When my machine boots up, I can see in dmesg: raid1 personality registered for level1. What should be my next step to start using the disk array?02:42
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darekhi02:42
Poromenoswhy is the new user able to see my files, though?02:42
darekknow someone whats the problem? -> http://wklej.org/id/4dbbd2f4a902:43
Ricodo you have them marked as world-writable?02:43
Ricoerm, world-readable02:43
Poromenosno, world-read and execute, though02:43
Poromenosyes02:43
Ricohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions02:43
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Poromenosi think they were like that by default?02:43
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RicoPoromenos: chmod o-r filename02:44
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Poromenosi did 0750, is that the same?02:44
mm2000fyrestrtr: thanks, but i need to install all locales.02:44
Ricoyou can leave out the 002:44
mm2000any idea how to do?02:44
Poromenosah, okay02:44
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Ricootherwise that's correct, 750 = rwxrw----02:44
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Poromenosrwxr-x---, actually02:45
Ricodammit, yeah02:45
Ricobasically you have a lot of options02:45
Poromenosdamn, apache stopped working02:45
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RicoPoromenos: find out what user apache is using02:46
PoromenosRico: How do I do that/02:46
Poromenosgroups apache?02:46
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RicoBy default it uses the user 'www-data' and group 'www-data'02:46
Poromenosah02:46
Somebody_hey!02:46
Poromenosthat's it02:47
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Poromenosdo I add it to the "poromenos" group?02:47
psyoptikI'm trying to compile a program from source and I am getting this error when using ./configure: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables." I just installed a new version of my c compiler. Any iideas?02:47
Ricoadduser www-data poromenos02:47
Poromenoshmm, still nothing02:47
Poromenosforbidden02:47
Poromenosthat is odd02:47
Poromenosdo i need to reload?02:48
Ricoare your files under the poromenos group?02:48
Poromenosthat's what ls-l shows02:48
Poromenosls -l02:48
Poromenosoh wait02:48
Ricorestart apache2?02:48
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Poromenosyeah, that group02:48
Poromenossec02:48
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Poromenosok, it works now, thanks a lot :)02:49
manmadhaIs it possible to set our ip as unkown?02:49
Poromenosby the way, which digit is now apache in the chmod perms?02:49
Poromenoswhat are the digits? owner, group, world?02:49
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rslIsn't there a log for what's been updated via apt-get or synaptic?02:50
tachohi, can someone recommend a small graphics editor for ubuntu. Something smaller than GIMP, only as much functionality as mspaint.02:50
lolkaareAnyone got a guide for installing mpd? On ubuntuforums.org, it requires a download which is not there anymore..02:51
tachoi guess that's a big 'no'02:52
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defrysktacho, xpaint02:52
kanotixhi guys02:52
tachodefrysk, thanks02:52
kanotixgrub us giving me error 18 after using automatix :(   how do i fix grub?02:52
kanotixurff02:52
kanotixsorry02:52
defryskkanotix, stop using automatix02:53
defryskand go to #automatix for help02:53
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arkygeekit wasnt automatix they say.  is there a grub repair option on the livecd?02:54
defryskarkygeek, they say it wasnt we say it was02:54
Wazmsup?02:54
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defryskarkygeek, also automatix is not supported by ubuntu02:54
arkygeekwell this is a grub issue now, which is needing fixing with ubuntu livecd.02:55
defryskgood luck02:55
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darekhttp://wklej.org/id/4dbbd2f4a9 :>03:01
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luis_lopezhi, somebody knows who's the contact for certification related stuff @ canonical?03:03
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Dariomornin'03:09
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_rodneychecking MOZ_GTK2_LIBS...   -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lfontconfig -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXext -lXcursor -lXfixes -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lXrender -lX11 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required03:09
_rodneyanyone know how to compile latest firefox , i get this error :  ^^^ sorry about that03:10
Darioquick question: do i need the three ISOs? or can i live with just the desktop one03:10
mjrjust the one03:10
Willsterjust one is fine, you can always download extra packages easily through apt-get03:10
defrysk_rodney, in dapper ?03:11
_rodneyyep ;)03:11
_rodneyno breezy sorry :(03:11
defrysk_rodney, 2x version ?03:11
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DarioWillster: sweet. thanks!03:11
Somebody_quick question too: how can I update gnome to 2.16 without edgy?03:11
_rodneyhmm how do i check the ubuntu version again ?03:11
DarioI'll let it d/l and try it out with my old laptop later. thanks guys.03:11
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WillsterDario: enjoy :)03:12
defryskcat /etc/issue03:12
_rodneyUbuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l  --ah thanks ;)03:12
defrysk_rodney, getting the latest in firefox in dapper compiled and all is hart to do03:13
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defryskhard03:13
_rodneyhow come, what do i need ?03:13
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defrysk_rodney, beter get the binaries for a local install or upgrade to edgy03:13
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wick2ogood morning03:13
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whymehi all,03:13
_rodneyhey03:13
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whymedoes anyone know about ppc's?03:13
wick2oanyone able to get ubunut to see harddrives connected to a sas raid?03:13
PoromenosHi, I have created a symlink as root but the user can't follow it, why is that?03:14
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whymegot a powermac 7200/75...03:14
wick2oDell SAS 5/ir Adapter to be exact03:14
whymeis that good enough?03:14
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moridinanyone can tell me how to configure mpd?03:16
tj_hey, i've got a toshiba laptop, and it seems that i cant partition, or format his HD, do you have any ideas?03:16
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Poromenoshow can I make it so that a user can follow a symlink i made as root?03:17
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cyfrHi. I want to use icon theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=44539 but when I try and drag the file in to theme manager it says file format is wrong03:18
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ZaggynlAnyone in here knows how to get AvP working?03:21
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lurker99Poromenos: Is the target readable or executable by the user directly?  Normally an 'ln -s' gives a world followable link...03:22
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POVaddctPoromenos: the target of the symlink must be readable by non-root. ownership of the symlink itself is not important for that.03:22
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davidThi all03:23
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Poromenosah, thanks, i'll try that03:23
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Poromenosi didn't know if i needed to look at the target or the actual symlink03:23
cyfrcan anyone help me?03:23
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winterweaverhey all =D03:24
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winterweavercan someone tell me how I can determine what my internet ip is (It's for TeamSpeak)03:25
Somebody_how to update gnome to 2.16?03:25
Poromenoswinterweaver: www.whatismyip.com03:25
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winterweaverO.o03:26
jribSomebody_: edgy will have gnome 2.16.  It will be released as stable in a couple of weeks03:26
winterweaverlol03:26
winterweaverthere is a website for that03:26
Poromenoswinterweaver: there are many :p03:26
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Poromenoswww.poromenos.org/ip.php03:26
winterweavertx :)03:26
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Poromenosnp03:26
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Poromenosstill permission denied, and i have chmodded the directory to 077703:27
Somebody_then i'll wait,thank you,jrib.03:27
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SUSaiyanSolopher: dsflks03:28
Poromenosthe parent directory is non-world readable, though03:28
SolopherAh okey03:29
SolopherNow we konw03:29
Solophernow*03:29
Solopherknow03:29
Solopherpff03:29
Solopher:D03:29
SUSaiyanlololololoololol03:29
Solophertypos in da hoUs303:29
SUSaiyannice03:29
Solopher'(^_^)'03:29
BlueEagle!enter03:29
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.03:29
BlueEagle:p03:29
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wick2oanyone running ubuntu on a dell poweredge 860??03:31
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Poromenosmy symlink appears red to the user's ls, btw03:32
davidTa quickie one03:33
kmaynardwick2o, no but i am running on dell hardware03:33
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davidTin theory how much would take a fsck of a 200gb ?03:33
jelly-homedavidT: how may files?03:33
_rodneyPoromenos: check the permissions03:34
jelly-homemany03:34
mjrdepends on file amounts, but I'd guess off the cuff 5-10 min03:34
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mjrjust a guess tho03:34
wick2okmaynard: mind a private IM?03:34
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mneptonmjr: on a 486/66? ;)03:34
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kmaynardwick2o, im game03:34
_rodneyPoromenos: make sure its readable for users03:34
kmaynardaim, msn, yahoo, or gtalk? :)03:34
mjrmnepton, mmh, fsck is not generally cpu-bound, but a 486 will probably have slow buses also...03:34
jelly-homedavidT: how many files?  is it an ext3?  was it mkfs-ed with default options?03:35
davidTa lot of file and a lot of big ones03:35
davidText303:35
jelly-homedavidT: by "a lot" do you mean tens of thousands or millions?03:35
davidTno03:35
davidTthousands03:35
jelly-homefeh, that's a few.03:35
mjrthat's not a lot :)03:35
darekwhat can i do when on ubunu live cd my usb keyboard doesnt work?03:36
davidTwell it is now more than 24 hours03:36
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Poromenos_rodney: permissions are drwxrwxrwx03:36
mjrdavidT, uh oh...03:36
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Poromenosi made a symlink to a directory with ln -s, is that correct03:36
Poromenos?03:36
mjrsomething rotten in denmark03:36
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jelly-homedavidT: that's definitely too much for ext3.03:36
jelly-homedavidT: did fsck report any errors?03:37
davidTthe first time i did with the -a flag03:37
jelly-homedavidT: I'd guess maybe 2-3 hours...03:37
darekwhat can i do when on ubunu live cd my usb keyboard doesnt work?03:37
davidTit did report errors03:37
davidTok so something's wrong03:38
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davidTwould you stop it ?03:39
jelly-homedavidT: of course pasting the last few screenfuls might help to know if they look like benign errors or not.03:39
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brynkanyone in here using an Epson AL-C1100?03:41
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davinIs it possible to get flash working in Konqueror?03:41
darekwhat can i do when on ubunu live cd my usb keyboard doesnt work?03:41
davindarek: try another one or try ps/2?03:42
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ba5edavin: use firefox!03:42
brynksmash it on your desk 3 times03:42
darekdavin, ehh i have got only one keyboard...03:42
davinba5e: I know it works in firefox but that wasnt my question03:42
davindarek: mhm does it work out of the live cd?03:42
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vbhanu-NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized03:42
vbhanu* services. sets mode +e vbhanu03:42
vbhanuvbhanu I am using firefox, and i access net through a proxy server, I would like to block some sites from being accessed from my system. Please tell me how i could do that.03:42
vbhanusoweto and nmap reports its open??03:42
vbhanutiny I was sshing to the box .. now I'v put my dyndns hostname into hosts.allow and it stoped working03:43
vbhanusorry!03:43
vbhanuI am using firefox, and i access net through a proxy server, I would like to block some sites from being accessed from my system. Please tell me how i could do that.03:43
brynkkonqueror sucks, but flash shouldn't be a problem03:43
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darekdavin, yes, on windows xp, on linux i didnt checked03:43
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davindarek: cause if you use ubuntu on your harddrive you might be able to compile your own drivers03:43
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davindarek: but seeing as ubuntu live cd didnt recognize it youre pretty screwed03:43
ba5edavin http://www.konqueror.org/faq/#WhydoesKonquerorcrashoneverypagewithFlash03:43
darekdaved, ok thx03:44
darekdavin, ok thx *03:44
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josh_whats up people... how do i find out how much space a certain directory is taking up on my drive from a commandline standpoint?03:44
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ba5edavin; maybe this is more helpful http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262789&highlight=flash+Konqueror03:44
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ba5ejosh_: good question03:45
disasmdarek: thats odd, i use a usb kbd all the time with ubuntu live cd, you must have a really non-standard keybard03:45
josh_lol i thought so too :P03:45
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darekdisasm, my friend ;] 03:45
ba5ei use baobab, bu tthat is not li03:45
ba5esorry not cli03:45
disasmdarek: you could try tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug/unplug kbd and watch the system messages go by, see if it shows anything03:45
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ba5ejosh_: have a look at 'man ls'03:46
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davinba5e: doesnt that look in the mozilla/firefox folders? I have Kubuntu without firefox..03:46
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ba5edavin not sure03:47
disasmdarek: the driver associated with 99% of usb keyboards is usbhid.ko or usbkbd.ko could try modprobing both of those and seeing if it has any affect03:47
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darekdisasm, ok thx03:47
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disasmdarek: of course, now that I'm mentioning this, I realize that your keyboard doesn't work, how are you going to type ;-)03:47
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winterweaverI know this is a bit off topic, but does anyone here know anything about adsl routers and opening ports on it (for my TeamSpeak server), or can you direct me to a channel with support for this ?03:48
ba5edavin do a search in the forums for 'flash Konqueror'03:48
ba5ewinterweaver: go to www.portforwad.com03:49
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winterweavertx03:49
disasmwinterweaver: all depends on the router, i know a lot of the dsl companies here don't give users the admin info on the dsl modem/router and you need to call the dsl company to get a port forwarded03:49
ba5esorry www.portforward.com winterweaver03:49
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winterweaverthx disasm... will keep that in mind03:50
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solevitahi there.03:55
A[D] minS!mount flash memory03:55
raintheoryhello03:55
ubotumount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB03:55
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solevitaanybody online who could help me with getting surround sound with ubuntu??03:55
A[D] minS!mount03:55
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks03:55
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ba5esolevita: it depends what sound card you have03:56
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solevitai used to change the sound inputs into outputs with the original sounddriver (that used to be with windows)03:57
raintheoryanyone have any luck with SVIDEO out on nvidia geforce fxgo 5100?03:57
defrysksurround only works with dvd and stuff , not mp303:57
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A[D] minSsudo mount /dev/sd1  /media/usb/03:58
A[D] minSmount: you must specify the filesystem type03:58
defryskor is this not about 5.103:58
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Millehowdy03:58
_Rappy_Why isn't there an option to use LVM during the installation of dapper, like it was in the previous versions. It annoys me ><03:59
solevitai know that   but i used to have a program  (as i still had windows) that could change the line in and micro inputs to subwoofer, center and rear outputs03:59
raintheoryi'd love to be able to watch videos on the TV thru SVIDEO...03:59
ba5eyeah you have to have a discrete 5.1 or 6.1 channel for it to work (ie dvd, AC3 etc)03:59
solevitaso you dont happen to know a program for ubuntu (6.06) that can simply change the ports functions?04:00
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SUSaiyanSolopher: viva04:01
SolopherDas ist wel schon04:02
Chm0dhey guys how can i completely delete vmplayer so that I can install the server?04:02
solevitaso nobody in here who knows a program that can change sound inputs into sound outputs?04:02
defrysksolevita, try alsamixer04:03
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Chm0dsorry solevita i dont know that answer04:03
Milleafter i've created some partitions with gparted, after the reboot, suddenly it can't find any of them. i booted with the live cd and the gparted says there is no partition what so ever, BUT, when I boot with the Windows XP cd the partition manager there displays all of partitions that should be there. Any suggestions on how to solve this?04:03
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jrndjoin #ubuntu-libre04:04
highvoltageok04:05
solevitadefryk: you think that might work with alsamixer?  its worth a try    thanks for the tip04:05
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tfrSiema04:05
tfrKtry to plik od autostartu? ;>04:05
defrysksolevita, not sure what you want but you could have a look04:05
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defrysk!pl04:06
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl04:06
tfrubotu: Wiem04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Wiem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
tfrAle tam akurat nikogo nie ma :)04:06
wick2oanyone know how to get SAS working?04:06
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tfrJest kto z Polski? ;>04:07
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darektfr, /me jest04:09
tfrdarek: O :)04:09
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solevitajust for your interest =)   i used to have a sounddriver for my onboardsound    the sound is just simple with 1 output and 2 inputs      but with the driver i could change the inputs into outputs     that resulted with some default effects  a great sound!   i couldnt believe my ears the first time i heard it    and of course i caught used to it     but since i have ubuntu instead of windows i cant install the original sounddriver wit04:09
solevitah these functions      and thats what im trying to get now =)    sorry for the long text04:09
tfrdarek: Wiesz ktry to plik do ktrego mog wwpisa komendy ktre odpali ubuntu na starcie?04:09
Zaggynlhow do I browse a cvs server?04:09
darektfr, nie ;] 04:09
tfrJak robiem masquarade to wiedziaem04:09
tfrA teraz nie pamitam04:09
tfr;p04:09
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tfrdarek: Znalazem /etc/rc.local04:11
darek;] 04:11
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solevitadefrysk, ach je bent ja ook nederlands   en ik zit hier moeilijk te doen in het engels :-D04:12
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defrysksolevita, fot dutch /j #ubuntu-nl04:13
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defryskfor*04:13
asmo674hurthow to reinstall OpenGL drivers???04:13
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solevitanice   tnx04:13
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jelly-homedavidT: if it was an ATA disk, i'd check for SMART errors. Could be the hardware is on its way out.  fsck shouldn't take that long anyway,04:14
rturnerhi, can someone tell me if usb modems are generally supported on ubuntu?04:14
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Peggerr /msg NickServ IDENTIFY  sword.fish04:14
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frying_fishPegger: nice one :s04:14
frying_fishPeggerr: even04:15
rturneri'm looking for a usb fax modem, any advice?04:16
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josh_anyone in here proficient with NFS and/or know of an in depth tutorial for NFS?04:16
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asmo674hurtyesterday i'we take HDD & insert in other PC. now i can't run any application wich need OpenGL, what I need to do???04:16
Peggerrso why does  The following packages have been kept back:   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386  happen??04:17
josh_asmo674hurt: u will need to get opengl loaded on the new computer...04:17
asmo674hurtjosh_ my HDD is back in oldo PC...04:17
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josh_you moved a harddrive that kept all the settings from a previous config... unless the system you put the harddrive in is exactly the same you will need to recongifure04:17
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tuqanneh, hello?04:18
asmo674hurtjosh_, ...old...04:18
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josh_did you take it from the old put it in new and then move back to old?04:18
tuqannis this where I can find help setting up ubuntu dapper04:18
josh_or going from new to old?04:18
josh_yes tuqann04:18
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solevitahmm   something smells nice    dinner is ready!!!!   im out04:19
tuqannokay, so I just go ahead and shoot my questions here or should I privately discuss it with someone?04:19
asmo674hurtjosh_, from old to new and back04:19
josh_hmm...04:19
josh_just shoot them in the room tuqann04:19
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tuqannk, I'm working on a laptop, Amilo M1437g, and my ati isn't letting the xserver work04:20
ch4rm0n3killing people is bad josh_04:20
josh_lol depends... some people deserve it04:20
tuqannI am a complete noob, most of the forums are a few miles ahead of me04:20
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josh_tuqann: you need to install the ati drivers04:21
tuqannnow, I guessed most of the commands "apt-get install" and such need an internet connection, right?04:21
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mneptoncorrect04:21
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josh_yes tuqann04:21
tuqannyes, I know, but I never seem to get anything working04:21
josh_!ati04:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:21
tuqannso so I HAVE to be online in order to fix the drivers?04:21
josh_tuqann: your online now....04:21
tuqannI did check this page, I actually have a printout next to me04:21
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tuqannas well as three other more04:22
josh_ok...04:22
tuqannbut they still confuse the hell out of me04:22
josh_so you have ati drivers installed?04:22
ch4rm0n3tuqann: you can instal automatix this program all you have to do is click and install the ati driver and other programs04:22
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tuqannfor starters, none of the atp-get commands are working04:22
ch4rm0n3apt-get04:22
mneptonplease do not use Automatix or EasyUbuntu04:22
ch4rm0n3why not04:23
tuqannI'm not sure I am connected when I'm in Ubuntu text prompt04:23
POVaddctch4rm0n3: do not recommend automatix here04:23
tuqannokay04:23
josh_because of security issues04:23
tuqannis the program runable on winxp? (I'm duel booting)04:23
asymmetryIs Anjuta the best bet for a GNOME IDE, or are there other, better alternatives?04:23
mneptonch4rm0n3: they can introduce problems that are not easily solved by people new to Linux04:23
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ZaggynlIs there any way to convert a .ebuild to .deb?04:23
ch4rm0n3ok04:23
josh_what program tuqann ?04:23
tuqannautomatix04:23
mneptontuqann: start Ubuntu, and start Synaptic. do a name search for fglrx. see what you have.04:24
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raintheorytuqann: nope04:24
tuqannI would need to disconect mirc04:24
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andresmujicahi anyone knows how can i change the status of a bug from unconfirmed to confirmed??  i've been doing some triage trying to confirm bugs but i cannot change its status only make the comment...04:24
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tuqannlike I said, I'm duel booting, so everytime I need to check something online or a save webpage I have to restart04:24
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mneptontuqann: if you can do all that in the next 5 years or so, the channel should still be here ;)04:24
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josh_tuqann: why?04:25
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Chm0dhey guys in ubuntu where is the location of c header files?04:25
josh_u dont have internet on your ubuntu side?04:25
Rur0un1andresmujica, add a comment, afterwards you will be able to change it04:25
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ChaosFanChm0d: usually /usr/include/ or somewhere like that04:25
Rur0un1Chm0d, try locate ?04:25
tuqannhaahaa, but I was hoping I can clear something of the things now, seeing that I have to move in like 20 minutes04:25
Chm0dthx04:25
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tuqannahhh, if I only thought of IRC ealier04:26
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keshi all04:26
mneptontuqann: no to fix anything until you're in Ubuntu. and no way to tell what the exact solution is until you do a little investigation.04:26
raintheorykes: hello04:26
josh_tuqann: switch to your ubuntu, do "sudo apt-get install irssi"04:26
josh_its a text irc program for linux04:26
keshi rain how's things?04:26
Mad3Max3Hi.. wonder if I could get some help.. having problem with the ubunti install04:26
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tuqannk04:26
mneptontuqann: can you get on the 'net from Ubuntu?04:26
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, what's wrong ?04:26
raintheorynot too bad04:26
josh_do a /connect irc.freenode.com04:27
raintheorybrb...04:27
tuqannjust tell me, how can I check if I'm actually connected online04:27
ChaosFantuqann: just ping something04:27
HeldonHello all- Quick question. I'm trying to set up a LAMP server, but can't get into the GUI interface, Tried a apt-get update, but it doesn't reconize my network. I have a static IP, but i don't think it is seeing my dns. Is there a way to set that up manually?04:27
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mneptontuqann: launch GAIM and use it to connect here04:27
josh_open a command prompt and type in "ping www.yahoo.com04:27
GuyFromHellhello folks, can someone help me get my cdrom drive to work on a dell D610? The mount command simply freezes after password input04:27
tuqannand if I get "Network is unreachable"04:27
mneptontuqann: or try Firefox, or ping, or ...04:27
josh_if you can ping a website your connected04:27
tuqannlike what happened 10 minutes ago04:27
kesi wonder tah someone explain me how to install wm ware tools..04:27
josh_are u using dialup?04:27
Rur0un1GuyFromHell, searched the forums ?04:27
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ChaosFantuqann: then you aren't connected or your dns is broken ;)04:27
Dr_williskes,  you mean VMware tools?04:28
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asmo674hurtyesterday i'we take HDD & insert in other PC. now i can't run any application wich need OpenGL, what I need to do???04:28
mneptontuqann: in a terminal, "ifconfig"04:28
tuqannipconfig04:28
GuyFromHellRur0un1: yea, as best as I could04:28
josh_kes, load your vmware environment and then go to "tools", install vmware tools"04:28
kesyes dr wiilis04:28
Rur0un1kes, there are excellent howtos in the forums04:28
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Mad3Max3Rur0un1, well.. my comp won't boot the ubuntudisc.. it stops right after I select.. start in the menu..04:28
tuqannahhh, not ipconf04:28
mneptontuqann: no, ifconfig04:28
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tuqannhoookay04:28
keshow tos?04:28
tuqannk04:28
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, what do you select from the menu ? Boot or install ?04:28
Dr_williskes,  I used the vmware server packages, and downloads from the vmware site to install them  on the guest Os's . vmware server has a feature to auto-install them on windows whichis nice.04:29
mneptontuqann: if the primary ethernet interface has an IP address, you probably have DNS issues.04:29
kesreally?04:29
Dr_willis!vmware04:29
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare04:29
tuqanngonna try it now, if it didn't work guess I'll try it later04:29
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, something with the CD if i look at the errors.. but there can't be.. this is the 5th cd I've tested.. and I have tested the cd on my main computer and it worked04:29
kesok but the problem is04:29
tuqannthanks for the help04:29
tuqannlater\04:29
Rur0un1GuyFromHell, normally you dont need to mount a Cdrom drive, If I were you I would check if people with same computer had any problems from google first04:29
kesfirst i can't go the tools until04:29
kesguest sistem boot04:29
HeldonAnyone?04:30
kesand after it0s no possible04:30
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, the first one on the menu..04:30
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, your CD-writer might be problematic. How did you make that 5 cds ?04:30
kes:(04:30
kesok04:30
GuyFromHellRur0un1: allright I'll try again but like I said, I already checked. I'll be back soon so don't go too far ;-)04:30
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, there is also a checksum in the cd rom04:30
josh_who uses NFS?04:30
ChaosFanHeldon: u want to set up your dns info manually?04:30
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kesi have only a iso04:31
Dr_williskes you made no sence..   Normally i run the vmware server. start the guest os. then install the vmware tools.04:31
Rur0un1GuyFromHell, you have to first assure someone is capable of running the same hardware, then seeking a solution might work04:31
Heldonyes, because i can't get the update so i can go into the desktop04:31
kesyes doc04:31
Heldonno internet = no update04:31
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, I burnt the CD with Nero.. with low speed.. but I tested the Ubuntu CD with my main computer first and it worked04:31
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ChaosFanHeldon: edit (as root, e.g. by using sudo) your /etc/resolv.conf04:31
kesbut it doesn't work ro me04:31
ChaosFanHeldon: add your dns server there in a line "nameserver <ip>"04:31
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, if you have any other *nix computer, please check the checksum in the CD04:32
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kesi see i'll try04:32
ChaosFanHeldon: and look at the output of the ``route'' command (sudo route), there should be your gateway, if not, do ``sudo route add default gw <ip of router>''04:32
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, it's the Check cd feature in the menu right?04:32
Heldonwhat if that is blank?04:32
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, secondly try to boot the problematic computer with say another bootable like windows XP04:32
ChaosFani'm away04:32
kesthanks...damn i'm crazy for this:(04:32
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, yes that will do04:32
HeldonChaosFan: What if that is blank?04:32
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josh_anyone? NFS?04:33
ChaosFanHeldon: if what is blank?04:33
Milleafter i've created some partitions with gparted, after the reboot, suddenly it can't find any of them. i booted with the live cd and the gparted says there is no partition what so ever, BUT, when I boot with the Windows XP cd the partition manager there displays all of partitions that should be there. Any suggestions on how to solve this?04:33
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, well in matter of fact.. I tested an old knoppix disc I had.. and it worked04:33
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, did you check it recently ?04:33
kesthanks to all to information and tips thank a lot04:33
HeldonChaosFan: The resolv.conf I did a vi on it and it is blank04:33
kes:)04:33
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josh_Heldon: then you have to add them in therer04:34
ChaosFanHeldon: then write "nameserver <ip of dns server", if you want multiple lines04:34
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, at what part of booting you got problems, do you get an error message ?04:34
ChaosFanif you have more than one nameserver04:34
ChaosFanthen dns should work04:34
ChaosFani have to go now, sorry04:34
HeldonThanks04:34
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salestodo555what i need to do if i have read this: " OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' "??? 2 days ago it goes perfectly!04:34
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, I built the computer yesterday and tested the knoppix after the Ubuntu failed. Have pretty much tested everything so I thought I'd ask someone04:34
marcepanhi. I need graphic suite like e.g Corel Draw, is there something similar in the repositiories?04:34
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, and what kind of error do you get ?04:35
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josh_marcepan: gimp not good enough for ya?04:35
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marcepanjosh_, I need to draw geometrical objects etc, gimp is more for painting and image manipulation methinks04:35
marcepanjosh_, and gpaint is not enough04:36
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Mad3Max3Rur0un1, "[190.241885]  hdc, ide_intr: huh? expected null handler on exit04:36
josh_ok get inkspace04:36
oslohi! ; how could i tape what i see on my desktop to an video file ?04:36
josh_or inkscape04:36
josh_its one of those04:36
marcepanjosh_,  will give it a try, thanks04:36
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, at what stage ?04:37
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josh_npo04:37
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bionoidmarsu: xfig, gnuplot, for more complex things you might want to look into blender04:37
ZaggynlGah, I'm trying to compile aliens versus predators, but I seem to be missing a dependency, no clue which one04:37
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/70483-cant-install-ubuntu-kubuntu.html04:38
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, I have fetched a laptop now.. shall check teh checksum on the cd.. and lets see what it says..04:38
SeanTaterMy laptop suddenly decided to use fglrx, out of the blue, but now my pc only supports 640x480 and even smaller resolutions. Here's my paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27003/ what do I do?04:38
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, try searching some part of the error in google or ubuntu forums04:38
GuyFromHellRur0un1: Yea I can't find anything. Everything I find shows that it is working for whoever it is.04:38
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, the first stage.. after the kernel has been unpacked or something and it tries to mount04:38
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, as I read it from google it is because Bad CD drive or bad image burn only04:39
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, let's see how the checksum results04:39
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, yeah.. it seems odd doesn't it04:40
Rur0un1GuyFromHell, sorry I don't know. Check your log files in /var/log, may be you can find something04:40
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, is it finished ?04:41
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Mad3Max3nope.. just started..04:41
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GuyFromHellRur0un1: do you know of any more verbose mount command that I could try ti get something from?04:41
M_A_KI cant seem to get rid of a default route.04:41
jeliIs there a simple way to remove some of the preinstalled Ubuntu software without it wanting to take ubuntu-desktop?04:42
Rur0un1GuyFromHell, man mount04:42
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Mad3Max3Rur0un1, I even changed the firmware in the DVD burner I burnt the disc in and reburnt it..04:42
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, I dont know, what does the checksum say ?04:42
GuyFromHellRur0un1: *slaps self* of course. I feel stupid. thanks :-)04:42
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Mad3Max3Rur0un1, it's working.. not finished yet04:43
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Rur0un1GuyFromHell, remember linux presents everything to us. (but just my printer and that's OKI shit :( )04:43
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Angie121hi04:44
Angie121hello04:44
wrabbit^hi04:44
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, strange it should have finished by now04:44
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Angie121hi rabbit04:44
GuyFromHellRur0un1: Yea, but it sometimes hides it from us ;-).04:44
Angie121wie gehts dia04:44
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Angie121wrabbit hi wie gehts04:44
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, maybe something wrong with the CD afterall04:44
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wrabbit^what?04:45
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, most probably it is. I would say concentrate on CD or the CDROM/DVDRom what ever04:45
Angie121not04:45
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Angie121whrer are you from04:46
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, one final note, your downloaded iso itself may be broken after all04:46
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M_A_KAnybody know why my default route goes back to and old one after a reboot even if I change it?04:46
casiciacodoes anyone knows how to make work the powerplay of the X700?04:46
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Mad3Max3Rur0un1, how come it boots on one comp.. but not the one I want it to boot in..04:47
M_A_KI have tried the sudo route delete df gw (ipaddress) as well as trying to set it via network settings.04:47
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, I have seen some incompatibilities between some discs and drives. And neither disc or drive is broken04:48
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, Im gonna try changing the DVD in the machine.. maybe it has reading problems.. what can I say.. it's a samsung04:48
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, you may try to burn the ISO from a different writer04:48
casiciacoSo nobody konws about X700, powerplay and ubuntu, does someone?04:48
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, nero sucks by the way04:48
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, what shall I use instead of nero?04:49
M_A_Kmad3max3 : haven't seen the entire conversation, but I have had trouble booting from disks that arent the master on the chain.  I assume you have checked the boot sequence in the bios.04:49
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, I don't know if there are any alternatives in windows, you may search it in google. in linux there are applications like K3b04:49
Mad3Max3M_A_K : I have CD-ROM first in the boot.. and then HD04:50
clarkphpHello! 5-day Ubuntu user - loving it!  I wish to try out Eclipse (I'm an old vi user) and am wondering which package I should apply: "ecj-bootstrap", "ecjboostrapt-gcj" or both?  Descriptions for both packages include: "This bootstrap version should be used for uploading initial versions of packages which are a dependency of Eclipse and build with ECJ".  I'm guess the gcj version, as it "contains a native version of ecj using04:50
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M_A_KK, is the drive master or slave?04:50
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zardinukhow do you figure out which version of ubuntu you have?04:50
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Mad3Max3M_A_K : Master on IDE 0.04:50
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Mad3Max3M_A_K : tried setting it as Slave.. and I tried to switch IDE port04:51
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GuyFromHellRur0un1: FYI I was able to solve the problem in the simplest way possible... I restarted04:51
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M_A_Kmad3max3 : will any other cd boot in this drive?04:51
franck_chier04:51
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Mad3Max3Rur0un1, I only install the Nero Burning rom. all the other crap that comes with it suxs!04:51
next_levelNext_Leveli'm at the install of ubuntu04:52
next_levelNext_Levelalternate version04:52
next_levelNext_Leveland04:52
next_levelNext_Levelwhen i press enter04:52
next_levelNext_Levelit presses 2 times04:52
next_levelNext_Levelbut i changed even the keyboard it does the same04:52
next_levelNext_Leveland i can't go on like this because i can't choose what i want04:52
Chm0dok im pulling my hair out what i have left where is the location of the header files vmware is adking for?04:52
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Mad3Max3M_A_K : yes. I booted a old Knoppix disc I had lying around. and it booted04:52
zardinukChm0d: use locate04:53
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Chm0dwhat do i type after locate?  header?04:53
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Mad3Max3Rur0un1, CD done now.. 0 errors on the checksum04:53
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, sorry I am outta ideas04:53
ubuntunubihello04:54
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ubuntunubican someone tell me which version did ubuntu run on04:54
ubuntunubi?04:54
Rur0un1but still I would say it is a CD problem04:54
GuyFromHellRur0un1: Thanks for your help :-) I'm gonna go give this back to the girl that I was working on this for.04:54
Mad3Max3Rur0un1, well Im gonna try with another DVD player next.04:54
M_A_KThen it must bee in the way the disc was burned.  I would agree with rur0un1, it must be media related.04:54
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ubuntunubiX windows type04:54
Rur0un1GuyFromHell, could you fix it ?04:54
ubuntunubiX.org or Xfree04:54
morphixwill edgy actually be released in oct :P04:54
morphixthat jmicron problem is a real pain.04:55
clarkphpFYI on Eclipse install: marking the gcj package automatically marks the other one.  All is well.  Up and running.04:55
Chm0dlocate header04:55
Chm0dugh04:55
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A[D] minS tar -cvvf to make file.tar04:55
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A[D] minSwhat about tar.bz2?04:56
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Mad3Max3it has nothing to do with me Having SATA drive.. haven't formatted it or anything.. when installing XP u have to create disks and crap to make SATA work. is it that way in Linux aswell?04:56
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POVaddctA[D] minS: tar -cvjf04:56
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chrishoeppnerHey04:57
chrishoeppnerRadiantFire, i got it working. thx a lot!04:57
RadiantFirecool04:57
pooh_beawryou know how Ubuntu will clean it'self every 30 days?  How do you force that same action?04:57
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salestodo555what i need to do if i have read this: " OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' "??? 2 days ago it goes perfectly!04:57
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rambo3you just click on ubuntu.exe and it works04:57
A[D] minSthx04:57
qk_I trying run XEN on Ubuntu with RAID-1 and have kernel panic - can't find root partition, can't find even hdd for build raid - any ideas ?04:57
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ba5eis there an easy fool proof way to clean up /var ?04:58
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Mad3Max3Rur0un1, how about the Edgy version.. is that stable.. 6.1004:58
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richeehey folks I have configured my modem and there is no dial tone can anyone suggest the right AT strings which I need to put04:58
chrishoeppnerjust if you care: i solved it booting in rescue mode, and setting chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo04:58
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Tammyhey wie kommt man in de german chat ???04:59
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chrishoeppneranother question. is there any way i can monitor network activity from an application, eg, connections, ports used, and else...04:59
berentcould not open /initialize audio device no sound ? whats the remedy04:59
Tammyhay how can i get to the german chat04:59
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richeeI would really appreciate if someone could at least try to help me out...I have been breaking my head for two days now...05:00
mnepton!de > Tammy05:00
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, Although I haven't run it (since I stay away from beta sowftware ) almost all the comments on it says, "Edgy rocks and Edgy is superior over dapper". Though It brings some edge programs which are itselves beta, most people found it stable05:00
mneptonrichee: Winmodem?05:00
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Rur0un1Mad3Max3, still I would recommend wait a couple of weeks05:00
ba5erichee: whats wrong?05:01
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Mad3Max3Rur0un1, gonna download it.. try if it boots.. u never know! :D05:01
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richeemnepton: it's the internal modem which came with my laptop....It's configured and ATZ also says OK and also ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=005:01
richeeOK05:01
richee says ok05:01
kmaynardedgy is nice. there's a lot of updates to it, and some compatibility issues (looking to you, truecrypt), but so far so good05:01
Rur0un1Mad3Max3,  in your situation it makes sense05:01
chrishoeppneranyone for a network monitor?05:01
Tammy!de05:01
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:01
richeeBut I am getting a no dial tone....05:01
pooh_beawrdoes anyone know how to force the 30 day file system check?05:02
mneptonrichee: what modem is it? or what kind of laptop?05:02
Tammy#ubuntu-de05:02
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Rur0un1!tr05:02
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.05:02
richeemnepton: compaq presario v2000 series05:02
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berentcould not open /initialize audio device no sound is the message by mplayer when i am user and works fine when root05:02
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mneptonpooh_beawr: sudo touch /forcefsck05:02
A[D] minShowi can know file size by command line?05:02
mneptonA[D] minS: ls -l05:03
pooh_beawrmnepton,... cool thanks ;)05:03
A[D] minSP.S want it by mb not kb05:03
mneptonrichee: sec05:03
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richeemnepton: sure :)05:03
Tammy#ubuntu05:03
Tammyhalloooooooooooooo05:03
mneptonTammy: /join #ubuntu-de05:03
Tammywie kann isch in den deutschen chat05:03
defrysk!de05:03
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:03
wrabbit^!whoah05:03
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A[D] minSmnepton: so what it mean 3044274 ?05:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about whoah - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:03
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richeemnepton: u there?05:04
mneptonA[D] minS: 3044274 bytes05:04
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richeecan anyone help me plzzz....05:04
mneptonrichee: i am. looking it up05:04
richeemnepton: thanks05:04
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cfmHi all!  My 6.06 server is up and has a name in /etc/hostname, but how do I get the name pushed out to my LinkSys router?05:04
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A[D] minSmnepton: i know :d how i can get it with mega byte05:04
jones3305:04
pvt_harvA[D] minS: u can tyoe ls -lh05:04
jones33333333333305:04
A[D] minS-lH ?05:05
jones333333333333333333305:05
pvt_harvsmall H05:05
A[D] minSaha small letter05:05
A[D] minSthx05:05
jonesOfficial Ubuntu support channel. Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ | 6.06 kernel security update issue is fixed | Our hearts and prayers go out to lilo and his family, we will miss you old friend05:05
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richeemnepton: I guess it has this modem       Conexant AC97 Data Fax Modem with SmartCP Driver05:05
pvt_harvA[D] minS:  ur welcome05:05
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peder_Can anyone recommend a imap and smtp server working fine on ubuntu?05:05
mneptonrichee: the problem is that you fdo not have a modem, you have a sound card. that's a Winmodem. and Winmodems are nothing but sound cards that do all their modulation in software.05:06
berentcould not open /initialize audio device no sound is the message by mplayer when i am user and works fine when root05:06
berentno one here for the taking05:06
richeemnepton: oh!05:06
Peggerrso why does  The following packages have been kept back:   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386  happen??05:06
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richeemnepton: so what can be done about it ?05:06
mneptonrichee: there are some Winmodem solutions (some sl-modem-daemon or something) but they are tricky.05:07
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richeemnepton: that's package I installed and gnome-ppp and also wvdial are querying the modem.....05:07
mneptonrichee: OK, i'm not familiar at all with that package. i haven't used a modem in a long, long time.05:08
Zaggynlarf, almost succeeded in compiling avsp :<05:08
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GastenIf I find a programming-language which gEdit doesn't provide syntax-highlightng for, how can I specify my own?05:08
richeemnepton: I was just curious to configure it, coz I tried and never succeed05:08
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freddybidouillesalut!05:08
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richeemnepton: before05:08
freddybidouilleen forme?05:08
GTX-Where can I get a script from, so when a process dies it starts it again05:08
mneptonrichee: do you *need* the modem, or are you just curious?05:08
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mneptonGasten: what language?05:09
richeemnepton: I need the modem, I want to configure this device with ubuntu/linux05:09
freddybidouillefrench05:09
Gastenmnepton: ChucK.05:09
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kmaynardexternal modem05:10
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Gastenmnepton: why?05:10
mneptonGasten: got a working JRE?05:10
Gastenmnepton: I'm not sure. I think I have.05:10
Gastenmnepton: Yes, I do.05:10
Gastenmore or less..05:11
assobachantbonjour05:11
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mneptonGasten: you'll want Sun's Java 1.5, available via Synaptic. then run "sudo update-java-alternatives -l" and find the Sun version on the list. then run "sudo update-java-alternatives name-of-the-sun-version-you-find"05:12
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mneptonGasten: then head over to http://jedit.sf.net and get the Java installer for jEdit. get jEdit installed, and the ChucK syntax highlighting module is here - http://www.jesusgollonet.com/blog/?p=13505:13
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Gastenmnepton: thanks!05:14
keshi all05:14
GTX-Where can I get a script from, so when a process dies it starts it again05:14
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kesi wonder ..are there italian rooms here?05:14
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sheriffi want to download Ubuntu dapper to my system but my can i use the x86 version of it because my proccessor is Amd 64?05:15
mnepton!it05:15
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:15
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kesgrazie ubotu ma e' solo x capire una ocsa ritorno tra poco...05:16
mneptonGasten: not only do you get ChucK highlighting, but jEdit is a *kickbooty* editor.05:16
xavsheriff, amd 64 is compatible with x86, so yes you can use both version05:16
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Gastenmnepton: what's "kickbooty"?05:17
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mneptonsheriff: you can easily use the x86 version, but once you get it installed get the k7 kernel and restricted modules via Synaptic for the AMD-specific love05:17
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mneptonGasten: a word to mean "really, really good" without profanity (this channel is family friendly)05:18
sheriffmnepton : what is k7?05:18
kesma nn li trovo05:18
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kmaynardk7 is AMD05:18
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mneptonsheriff: 386 = Intel 386/486  | 686 = Pentium II or better | K7 = 32 bit Athlon (which your 64 is most similar to)05:19
Gastenmnepton: Aah. ok. I'll look at it when I get some time over. In my experience, Java tends to run painfully slow. But I got a ducky computer.05:19
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afiefHow can i open an LIT document in Ubuntu?05:19
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mneptonGasten: to be honest, on a find/replace on an 800Kb file on my machine, jEdit is more than four times as fast as gEdit05:20
femii need help with the permissions settings in ubuntu05:20
femiwho can help me'05:20
kmaynardfemi, with what?05:20
mathieumnepton: 686 is Pentium Pro or better05:20
femii have a problem05:20
femii can't do anything cause i guess i've messed up something05:20
GTX-Where can I get a script from, so when a process dies it starts it again05:20
femimy sound device does'nt work05:21
kmaynardcan you be a little more specific05:21
sheriffmnepton: well if i dont get it , the system not gonna work?05:21
mneptonmathieu: i'd stick with 386 on PPro myself. got burned long ago. :/05:21
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femiand practically everything in the administrator menu has disappeared05:21
kmaynardwhat changed?05:21
mneptonsheriff: it will work fine. but the k7 kernel will give you much better performance05:21
femican i pvt you?05:21
Gastenmnepton: ah. I'm not gonna argue about that. I'll see how it runs. Back to homework.05:21
kmaynardfemi, you say you messed something up...how?05:21
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sheriffmpeton : ok thanks05:22
leapquiero saber aqui usar netbeans05:22
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LoRezWarning: `leap' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.05:22
leapquiero saber aqui usar netbeans05:22
leapquiero saber aqui usar netbeans05:22
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raintheoryhmmm...   my progress bars aren't working in edgy.05:22
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leapquiero saber aqui usar netbeans05:22
leapquiero saber aqui usar netbeans05:22
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leap??05:22
leapquien sabe05:22
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kmaynard!es05:22
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:22
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sfilleulDo we have some chance to see fontconfig 2.4.1 in edgy (is in debian now) ?05:24
cfmMy 6.06 server is up and has a name in /etc/hostname, but how do I get the name pushed out to my LinkSys router?05:24
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kmaynardcfm, what for?05:24
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gnomefreaksfilleul: join #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions05:24
cfmkmaynard: So I can access it by name from a different machine05:25
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SlayedbyGoukiok this is starting to hack me off...I installed wpasupplicant and wpa-gui....I went to look for the wpa_supplicant.conf file and it doesn't exist in /etc/   wtf?05:25
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tonyyarussocfm: Wouldn't you just add it to the hosts on the other machine?05:26
kmaynardcfm, if you're accessing it internally, just use the ip or add the host to the hosts file of the remote machine. if you're trying to get in from outside, you'll need to open the right port(s) to your server05:26
sfilleulthx gnomefreak05:26
gnomefreakSlayedbyGouki: check in home under hidden files05:26
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raintheorybrb...   switchin to linux05:27
cfmHmm, that's not ideal.  It uses DHCP and I have over 20 machine that need to access it.05:27
kmaynardaccess it how? samba?05:27
joeCoTcfm: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/fix-hostname-unknown-in-router/05:27
femikmaynard, can u help me?05:27
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cfmkmaynard: HTTP initially, but svn later05:27
tonyyarussocfm: You could set up the router to always use the same IP for it.05:28
SlayedbyGoukignomefreak: Ok still when I try to run wpa_gui it says it can't connect to x server...is it necessary to edit the .conf file?05:28
gnomefreakSlayedbyGouki: dont know but i would assume so05:28
cfmjoeCoT: Ah, interesting, I'll give that a go05:28
kmaynardcfm, dude, if its http you just need to configure apache accordingly05:28
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gnomefreak!wpa > SlayedbyGouki05:28
gnomefreakSlayedbyGouki: check your pm from ubotu05:28
SlayedbyGoukignomefreak: thanks05:29
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cfmkmaynard: I don't think Apache will help - the box isn't publishing it's name, so I can't ping it etc.05:29
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kmaynardso, what are you using for http?05:29
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kmaynardbecause if its browser access, your other boxen should be able to resolve the hostname05:29
Mad3Max3Must be error in the Ubuntu bootdisk,, have tried everything05:29
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joeCoTbbiab05:30
cfmkmaynard: But without there being any name to access the box by, how can the clients connect?05:30
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cfmMachine's rebooting now with joeCoT's fix...05:30
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kmaynardwhat server are you running?05:31
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SlayedbyGoukiUnfortunately that information shows for version 5.10 of Ubuntu?05:31
cfmkmaynard: Server is irrelevant I tihnk, but t's Apache205:31
kmaynardit's not irrelevant! it's the whole issue05:32
SlayedbyGouki!wpa05:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:32
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kmaynardif you configure apache correctly, your browsers can access that box using the hostname. I HAVE DONE IT TRUST ME05:32
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kmaynardthats internally...if you want external access, it's gonna take some DNS05:32
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femiheeelp05:33
cfmBut if a computer cannot ping by name, it can't resolve the machine at all.  How does the webserver fix that?05:33
kibbled_bitsdoes anybody have trouble adding menu items via Alacarte?05:33
berentcould not open /initialize audio device no sound is the message by mplayer when i am user and works fine when root05:33
femiplease help me05:33
femii can't do anything05:33
kibbled_bitsis it just me or does that menu editing system seem worthless?  ;)05:33
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berentany takers for this?05:33
kibbled_bitswhat's up Femi05:33
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SlayedbyGoukiIf he can't connect using the machine name hosts probably is missing entries..05:34
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sparkleytoneberent: is your user a member of the audio group?05:34
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berentyes i added05:34
femii have a problem with permission05:34
der0bcfm: you need to either add the hostname to ip mapping for that machine to your hosts file or set up a dns server (dnsmasq is an easy one to config and maintain)05:34
femican i explain it in private05:34
sparkleytoneberent: when did you add?  just now?05:34
femiso i don't get messed up?05:34
kibbled_bitsshoot, pm me05:34
berentyes05:34
berentshud i reboot05:34
SlayedbyGoukiberent: Use gxine less hassles05:34
PSUSIberent: did you log the user out and back in again?05:34
kmaynarda book on networking might help05:34
sparkleytoneberent: now restart your window manager05:34
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berentwindow manager ? who is that05:35
sparkleytoneberent: just reboot then05:35
PSUSIlog out and back in again05:35
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berentok05:35
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SlayedbyGoukiberent: Ctl+Alt+Backspace05:35
SlayedbyGoukiHEh05:35
Ninja562hello, I am upgrading from hoary to breezy, after the updates download...what do I do next?05:35
sparkleytoneapt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade05:36
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Mad3Max3oh.. Kernal Panic.. that a intressting error.,. 4 DVD drives and now a CD-ROM driver..05:36
Ninja562done05:36
PSUSIyou mean apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade05:36
SlayedbyGoukiWhat...why not upgrade to Dapper?  sudo apt-get update....sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:36
Ninja562running05:36
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kibbled_bitsfemi I have PMed you, if you need help05:36
Mad3Max3well atlest it goes past the moutning part05:36
sparkleytonehe already got the updates05:36
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cfmkmaynard: Please don't speak to me like that, I don't think I deserve it.05:36
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Ninja562I was told to upgrade to brreezy, then dapper05:37
SlayedbyGoukiNinja: Ahhh...05:37
kibbled_bitsdoes anybody here have any luck with Alacarte?05:37
cfmder0b: Will a DNS server on the box itself trigger the publishing of the hostname to the upstream DNS then?05:37
Ninja562the update is taking a while and I wanted to know if there was a reboot or something needed05:37
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AsheDany way to do a search and return any files with non-alphanumeric characters?05:38
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ZaggynlHi, how do I get X to run at 60hz instead of 75hz? (my LCD monitor it's optimal rate is 60hz)05:38
der0bcfm, you'll just be setting up a private dns server.  You'll just tell your machines to use it as a lookup.  If you need to get to the machine from outside of your network you'll want to get yourself a dyndns account05:39
SlayedbyGoukiNinja562: Nope...it will do it all and inform you if it needs to reboot..can take a while...05:39
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Ninja562OK05:39
cfmder0b: I want this machine to get it's IP via DHCP, so the clients can't use it for DNS05:39
Ninja562I am hoping Dapper will rresolve my amd64 isues05:39
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cfmder0b: I guess what I'm after is what Windows does automatically! :-/05:40
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der0bcfm, if you set up dnsmasq as your dhcp and dns server it won't be a problem.  In general, if you have a machine "serving" you set it to a static IP.05:40
kibbled_bitsZaggynl: try /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:40
kibbled_bitsfind the section under monitors with frequencies05:41
kibbled_bitscomment out the other lines and put a line for 60 in there05:41
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SlayedbyGoukicfm: I believe you are confusing the situation...DNS will be provided by DHCP to the clients unless you tell it otherwise in the network setup05:41
kibbled_bitsshould be pretty straightforward05:41
der0bcfm: I can't get to my windows machines by name without using the hosts file or a dns server05:41
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kibbled_bitsthen hit CTRL-BKSPC05:41
cfmder0b: Yes, but Windows boxes publish their DNS to the upstream server.05:41
freekilljust use linux :p05:41
SlayedbyGoukifreekill: Indeed05:42
cfmI already have DHCP provided by my router, which provides DNS as well.  I can't switch DHCP to this box, unfortunately.05:42
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Zaggynlkibbled_bits, okay05:42
der0bcfm, I'm not sure what you mean by upstream server05:42
elias_I have a linux host with a pptp connection to the internet. how can I share this with my windows vmware instance?05:42
freekillWhat linux distro do you use SlayedbyGouki?05:42
Zaggynlkibbled_bits, I could only find     HorizSync       30.0 - 65.0 VertRefresh     50.0 - 75.005:42
SlayedbyGoukiUhhh..Ubuntu Dapper?05:43
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cfmder0b: Sorry, I mean that a Windows box on my network registers itself with the router, and can be accessed by name without any other config.05:43
cherubielZaggynl: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:43
andyshackcfm : is this for parsing urls for apache ? im setting up a dns server tomorrow as ive had enough of using either proxies or the windows hosts files to parse url info to apache.05:43
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cfmandyshack: Nope, sorry!05:43
cherubielZaggynl: follow on-screen instructions, backup your old. working xorg.conf before doing this. revert back if it craps up.05:43
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der0bcfm, It's using it's windows hostname when registering..  your linux machine doesn't have one05:44
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Zaggynlcherubiel, cheers05:44
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JoeCoTcfm: to set your windows hostname, you'd need to configure samba for it05:44
der0bcfm, I think there's a way to config the linux machine to register with a specific name but I don't know how05:44
freekillDoes anyone here also has got troubles  with ati drivers for ubuntu if i install them everything fails so nog i dont have direct rendering05:44
cherubiel!X05:44
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:44
cherubielZaggynl: ^^05:45
femianybody can help?05:45
femii have 4 partitions on my disk05:45
femi(17:22:11) femi: and i wanted to access one of them to store some data05:45
femi(17:22:20) femi: because the home one was filling up05:45
femi(17:22:45) femi: so i tried to mount the partition on my home directory05:45
femi(17:23:08) femi: it worked, cause under preferences it sayd i was the owner05:45
femi(17:23:25) femi: but i hadn't the permission to change the read/write settings05:45
femi(17:23:42) femi: then ubuntu automatically logged off and re logged on05:45
femi(17:23:49) femi: but it didn't work anymore05:45
femi(17:23:51) femi: i mean05:45
femi(17:23:57) femi: i didn't have any sound05:45
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femi(17:24:43) femi: i only have device manager, network tools, printing, storage device manager, system log and system monitor in the administration menu05:45
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femi(17:24:56) femi: and neither does the root terminal work anymore05:45
femi(17:25:17) femi: and the partition that i tried to mount doesn't work anymore05:45
femi(17:25:25) femi: i mean, it says i cannot access it05:45
femi(17:25:37) femi: so what have i done?05:45
femi(17:29:01) femi: now it says the other partitions are unknown user05:45
cherubielhey cut the flooding!05:45
wrabbit^!flood05:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:46
cfmI'm afraid I think I'm confusing matters by mentioning Windows!  I'll try and restate my problem.05:47
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SurfnKidok why is there a problem copying files already existing in a destination05:47
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SurfnKidwhen clicking on replace, it actually doesnt copy them,just replaces the folders05:47
SurfnKidnot the files05:47
femiok sorry05:47
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femibut can anyone help?05:48
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cfmMy 6.10 box needs to pick up DHCP from my LinkSys router, but needs to be pingable by name from other machines on the network.  Is that even possible?05:48
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Subhumancfm, yes05:48
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JoeCoTcfm: yes. For most interactions, it'd be using the hostname set in your dhcp.conf ; for windows network interactions, it'll use your hostname from your samba config05:49
Subhumancfm, on your routers config, you can set "reserved ips." in your dhcp conf, jus enter an ip and the mac adress of your machine, then your router will always assign the pc with that mac address, the same ip.05:49
femiis tehre anybody who can help?05:49
kmaynardwhats wrong with static for the one box?05:49
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gnomefreakfemi: most people dont read when people flood put the paste in pastebin and give us the link someone might look at it05:50
andyshackcfm : subhuman has a point, that will allow you to keep your dhcp config on your ubuntu box.05:50
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kmaynardmy servers are always staic...it's just easier05:50
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andyshacklikewise. cfm : with networking, it really can help to just have static ip's on smaller networks.05:50
cfmkmaynard: Unfortunately static isn't an option here, it needs to be DHCP.05:51
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JoeCoTcfm: then set the hostname in your dhcp.conf and in samba. that's all you need to do05:51
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cfmJoeCoT: I'm not running a DHCP server on the Ubuntu box, so have no dhcp.conf05:52
andyshackcfm : are you just wanting to be able to type in \\servername and then just see the shared drives ?05:52
femihow do i open pastebin?05:53
boink!pastebin05:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:53
cfmandyshack: No, right now I just need to ping by name.  I'll sort out the network services later.05:53
cherubielcfm: try dyndns05:53
JoeCoTcfm: you have no dhclient.conf ?05:53
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JoeCoT#send host-name "andare.fugue.com";05:54
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andyshackcfm : i have a generic 6.10 with samba running and that works fine.. it does however have a static ip although im not sure that it really makes that much difference once the machine has authenticated itself through your router. does it people ?05:54
femiok anybody hel me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27010/05:55
cfmJoeCoT: I have dhcpclient.conf yes, and I applied that change after you mentioned it before.05:55
femiplease05:55
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JoeCoTrestarted networking? any affect? are the other machines unix or windows?05:55
andyshacki just tried to ping servername and it worked fine.05:55
cfmJoeCoT: I bounced the whole box, just to be sure.  Windows client isn't able to ping by name05:55
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sfeehanDoes anyone know the ubuntu equivalent of the debian base-config command?05:56
JoeCoTcfm: then set up the hostname in samba for windows networking05:56
cfmJoeCoT: I'll look into it, thanks05:56
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cfmHmm, no Samba installed.  One moment while I apt-get it...05:57
andyshackthats your problem cfm05:57
cfmDoes Windows ping use netbios names then?05:58
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Mad3Max3I hope the ubuntu team can sort their installer out so it will boot..05:58
PSUSIyea, windows can use netbios for name resolution05:58
beligumDoes someone know of some good Linux-based visual art projects?05:59
JoeCoTcfm: i know if does for all file sharing, dunno about hostname resolution period05:59
femianybody seen my problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27010/05:59
femiplease help me if possible05:59
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der0bcfm, you're router may use netbios for name res, so you would need samba configured05:59
der0b*your05:59
Ninja562the update is still going...05:59
cfmder0b: Ah, now that would make sense - I see now.06:00
Mad3Max3to bad thou.. the ubuntu dist was a perfect OS for me.. but since it won't boot and install.. I can pretty much use it as a coffecup tray06:00
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raintheoryokay guys...    I'm on my laptop running Dapper, and I want to connect to my desktop running Edgy (via VNC or something like that), what is the easiest way to accomplish this?06:00
andyshackfemi : i cant help you with your partition problem, sorry.06:01
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femiok06:01
raintheoryI already have the remote stuff set up on edgy06:01
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PSUSIraintheory: enable vnc and use it?06:01
kmaynardraintheory, you might wanna try www.nomachine.com06:01
femiso does the installation cd resolve my problem06:01
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femiis it possible?06:01
JoeCoTraintheory: vnc for desktop, sftp or samba for files06:01
kmaynardyou can use vnc too, but its laggier06:01
SurfnKidguys how can i make a link to my usb drive to show as a list on apache web server?06:01
raintheorywhat about Gnome-RDP?06:01
andyshackfemi : maybe wait a while and someone will get back to you. have you made all of these partitions in ubuntu ? i mean : these are not windows partitions right ?06:02
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klm-is there a free pdf editor (which I could use to fill out pdf forms) for ubuntu?06:02
cfmJoeCoT, der0b: Yes, that was it!  Many thanks for all your help06:02
femino06:02
feminot windows06:02
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PSUSIraintheory: no, RDP is the windows remote desktop protocol06:02
femithey are ubuntu ext2/ext306:02
JoeCoTcfm: no problem06:02
meherenhow do i reconfigure a package06:02
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PSUSImeheren: dpkg-reconfigure packagename06:02
meherenah thx so much06:02
raintheoryokay i'll try VNC at the moment (since I'm more familiar with that)..   i'll let you know what happens06:03
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raintheoryshould i just grab it from synaptic?06:03
JoeCoTraintheory: search the forums for shareX11vnc . might be a good setup for you06:03
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Mad3Max3is there anywhere I can report the fatal problems with the ubuntu bootdisc?06:03
raintheoryJoeCot: thanks i'll check that out06:03
JoeCoTraintheory: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565&highlight=sharex11vnc06:03
PSUSIMad3Max3: yes... file a bug report06:04
morbid88hey guys. Anyone know how to reset root password on mysql? I tried following the guidelines in this page, but it didn't work. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html06:04
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h0axi have abit of trouble with my sound drivers i need ac97 onboard drivers and cant find them06:04
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Mad3Max3PSUSI : ok..06:04
dom-chillni try to install a vpn server on my Xubuntu, try it with this documentation (german) http://www.uni-koblenz.de/GHRKO/VPNUbuntu , installed the software, but than i should use a Applet to add a new VPN...dont know how to get there06:05
andyshackfemi : i do not know if one may mount drives with the live cd. ive not tried. i assume it creates a ram drive allowing read write access so possibly one could. perhaps run the live cd, mount all of the partitions and see which one it is that you are meant to be booting from.. i think you may wish to then have a play with grub (there is a program called super grub disk that i have used before that helped) and boot off your old partition06:05
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h0ax06:05
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andyshack..working for you in the first place ? im not very good as i said with mounting things.06:05
morbid88could anyone please help me reset the root password on mysql server?06:05
JoeCoTmorbid: you tried starting it with skip grant tables? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1476548&postcount=506:06
morbid88JoeCoT: I tried both solutions.06:06
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morbid88JoeCoT: neither one seemed to work.06:06
Rookie_morbid - dpkg-reconfigure mysql06:06
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andyshackfemi : do you have any data in any of these partitions that means anything to you ?06:07
JoeCoTmorbid88: what happened when you did skip grant tables?06:07
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andyshackfemi : sometimes, it really is just easier to nuke the thing and start again.06:07
dom-chillnhow get i to this nice window, where i should add svn options : http://www.uni-koblenz.de/GHRKO/pics/VPN/ubuntu/Schritt1 (sorry, me is very new at linux operating systems)06:07
femii have a lot of data i need06:07
femibut it's only on one partition06:07
klm-can I fill out pdf forms in ubuntu for free?06:07
morbid88JoeCoT: I managed to connect, but I couldn't do anything. I followed the guide in the reference manual, including updating the password and flushing the priviliges.06:08
femii am afraid that if i installed ubuntu on the other free partition06:08
morbid88nada.06:08
femii wouldn't have the permissions to access my old data06:08
JoeCoTmorbid88: and it updated the table?06:08
femiis it possible?06:08
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femiis it possible to burn dvd's with the livecd os?06:09
andyshackfemi : i cannot answer that. i would assume not although as its your data and im a noob best seek additional help.06:09
jaksanyone got experience with fuse/obexftp ?06:09
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jaks*obexfs06:09
andyshackfemi : yes i think i saw someone burn a cd with the live cd.06:09
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femiok then06:09
femii'll try06:09
femithanx and bye06:09
LabThugCan anyone tell me which package I need to install to watch the CNN videos under Opera?06:09
gnomefreakLabThug: realplayer i think06:10
cryptoniccould someone help me out with this error im getting when trying to install ubuntu : "kernel panic - not syncing : IO - APIC + timer doesnt work! try using the noapic ' kernel parameter" ?06:10
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Anybodyhow can i launch beep media player in terminal?06:11
JoeCoTcryptonic: have you tried using the noapic option at the installation prompt?06:11
LabThuggnomefreak, it's already installed.  I think CNN uses WMVs now06:11
cryptonicwell i didnt see an installation prompt06:11
jaksAnybody: surely just run the command from a Terminal Window?06:11
cryptonicjust some options06:11
der0blabthug: have you installed the win32codecs package?06:11
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LabThugder0b: yes06:12
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morbid88JoeCoT: how to I pastebomb?06:12
morbid88!pastebomb06:12
morbid88... that didn't work...06:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebomb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:12
JoeCoTcryptonic: which install cd? have you tried to alternative install cd?06:12
morbid88oh, got it it's in the subject.06:12
cryptonicright so does anyone know what could cause an error like that?06:12
Rookie_!pastebin06:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:13
cherubiel!paste > morbid8806:13
gnomefreakLabThug: gxine plugin plays them06:13
nordiklink with -lm06:13
Rookie_ln ... not lm06:13
nordikjoin ##c06:13
LabThuggnomefreak: that's installed too....hmmm06:13
gnomefreakLabThug: hold on it looked like it was going to06:13
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morbid88JoeCoT: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2701106:14
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cryptonici wonder if it has anything to do with that new bootloader06:14
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JoeCoTmorbid88: do that again, but afterwards, run the query: "select * from mysql.user where PASSWORD=PASSWORD('12345')"06:15
dom-chillncan somebody explain me how i could install a vpn server on my xubuntu?06:15
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Ninja562what is the diff between Dapper and Kubuntu?06:16
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JoeCoTmorbid88: after updating the password. i want to see if that's what the password's set to. you'll notice the query matched 1 and changed 006:16
W9ZEB-Larswhat's the site that talks about the differences between 6.10 and current?06:16
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dom-chillninstalled all entries in the package manager which i found with "vpn" (network manager pp. etc) but how could i configer it?06:16
morbid88cherubiel: thanks, I found it :-)06:16
morbid88JoeCoT: I noticed that. I tried another method, the one found at this page http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html06:17
morbid88but it got the same results.06:17
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Rookie_morbid88 dpkg-reconfigure mysql06:17
PSUSINinja562: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome... Dapper is the current stable release of ?buntu06:17
SlayedbyGoukiI have been trying to get wpa_supplicant to find my wireless nic which is automatically detected during boot..Dapper..how do I figure out which of the options I should use with wpa_supplicant? ie madwifi, etc...nic is D-Link DWL620+06:17
Ninja562Oh, thanks..Both are amd64 good 2 go?06:18
morbid88JoeCoT: let me try that other thing you wanted me to do. bbiab.06:18
JoeCoTmorbid88: yes, i want to see if the password is /already/ 12345, and there's something else that's the issue06:18
PSUSINinja562: yes, there are amd64 builds of Ubuntu and Kubuntu06:18
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Ninja562I am running one now, the update and upgrade process understand the diff and take care of it..yes?06:19
JuNkPhreakHello All06:19
JoeCoTmorbid88: also, start mysqld_safe like this: mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables -u root &06:19
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jaksany used FUSE?06:21
morbid88JoeCoT: here's the result - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2701206:21
LabThugooo, hold on, I hit refresh and now gxine is loading up06:21
deedubbHello. I have a question - is there a way to get the gd2 library for php without installing x11-common? If I compile it myself does it still require x11-common?06:21
klm-can I fill out pdf forms in ubuntu for free?06:21
boinksure06:21
LabThughmmm, let's try clicking the play button06:21
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cfmmorbid88: You don't have a root@localhost user?06:21
JoeCoTmorbid88: okay, have you tried restarting and logging in?06:21
LabThugwell, that hung it...yay!06:21
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morbid88JoeCoT: with a trailing slash http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27012/06:22
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JoeCoTmorbid88: cfm brings up a good point06:22
morbid88it seems to me that I did get a result, but why isn't it accepting it on login?06:22
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X92|JamesHi.06:23
jaksdeedubb: you'll probably still need the x libraries06:23
dom-chillnhihi ... can somebody help me to install a vpn server on my xubuntu?06:23
JoeCoTmorbid88: if you still can't login, try: "UPDATE mysql.user SET Host='localhost' WHERE USER='root';"06:23
BlueEagledom-chilln: apart from apt-get install vnc-server and configuring it?06:23
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ROBOdhello06:23
BlueEagleubotu: tell dom-chilln about anyone06:23
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X92|JamesI've just got Ubuntu in the post.06:24
ROBOdhow to access an usb sticky? 1gb data06:24
X92|JamesAnd basically, I'm a n00b.06:24
X92|JamesAny advice. :)06:24
jaksX92|James: put the cd in your cd drive06:24
jaksand reboot06:24
jaksand then you're free06:24
X92|JamesYeah.06:24
X92|JamesI know that. :)06:24
X92|JamesCan I run from the disk?06:25
jakswell theres not much else to it06:25
jaksyou can06:25
X92|JamesAnd how do I get mIRC or anything to work?06:25
SlayedbyGoukiOk so I tried running wpa_supplicant with -Dtest -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf...now it says it couldn't run it because there may have been an unclean exit the last time the command ran....how to check for the errant temp file?06:25
X92|JamesOr cant I?06:25
jaksit's a LiveCD06:25
JuNkPhreak\quit06:25
jaksmIRC is Windows only06:25
richiefrichyes06:25
jaksbut you could always run it through wine06:25
X92|JamesThought so.06:25
X92|JamesWINE?06:25
X92|JamesI've heard of that.06:25
Gwildorwhy for?06:25
JuNkPhreakman havent used irssi in long time06:25
X92|JamesAnd Crossover Office.06:25
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JoeCoTX92|James: it's a livecd, so yes. if you have questions, ask on the forums, search the wiki, or ask here. no mIRC, but there's xchat. most windows programs have a linux alternative. if there's not, you can run it in wine.06:26
JuNkPhreakanyone here using sparc box for servers for ubuntu ?06:26
LabThugX92|James: Wine adds the stability of Windows to the user-friendlyness of Linux :-)06:26
X92|JamesWhat is WINE?06:26
X92|JamesOK. :)06:26
deedubbX92|James, you'll love the IRC clients linux has, they're more powerful then mirc and they make you look ubber nerdy06:26
jakslol LabThug06:26
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X92|JamesWindows isnt stable though...06:26
LabThugyep, and Linux isn't user-friendly06:26
X92|JamesOK...06:27
LabThugbut Wine lets you run Windows applications on Linux06:27
dom-chillnBlueEagle:i am very new a linux, have install all packets which i found, when i searched "vpn", is that all? or have i to download more?06:27
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JuNkPhreakit will be as time go's on06:27
JoeCoTX92|James: wine is a windows api handler, ie it lets you run windows programs. You're probably better off running a linux program though, if one's available.06:27
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Mad3Max3where can I download the edge version.. since the dapper is crap06:27
JuNkPhreakit has made alot of changes sence the start06:27
X92|JamesWhat about Crossover Office06:27
X92|JamesAnd is WINE free?06:27
deedubb$$06:27
X92|JamesWhere do I get it?06:27
X92|JamesARGH!06:27
X92|Jameslol06:27
Shin_Goukiitsfree06:27
richiefrichMad3Max3 you mean debian ?06:27
jaksWine is free and you get it by "apt-get install wine"06:27
Shin_Goukiuse google06:27
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morbid88JoeCoT: sorry, I was lagging fro some reason (probably still am). Did i miss anything after I gave you the new pastebin/06:27
morbid88?06:27
GwildorX92|James, WINE is NOT worth it jsut for mirc...06:27
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JoeCoTmorbid88: if you still can't login, try: "UPDATE mysql.user SET Host='localhost' WHERE USER='root';"06:28
X92|JamesI knwo.06:28
X92|JamesBut games etc.06:28
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ROBOdhow to access an usb sticky? 1gb data06:28
jaksfor games, you're gonna want cedega06:28
X92|JamesAnyway, BRB.06:28
X92|JamesUbuntuing.06:28
kulbirIs there a toolset for creating PDF files on Linux?06:28
richiefrichROBOd mount it06:28
X92|JamesOK.06:28
Mad3Max3richiefrich, no I mean v6.10 of Ubuntu. and not the 6.06.1 dappar.. that has a crap bootload06:28
X92|JamesThanks all.06:28
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deedubbGRANT all on * to root identified by 'password'; flush privileges;06:28
X92|JamesHow about MSN Messenger?06:28
GwildorROBOd, plug it in...06:28
X92|JamesShoudl I just use webmessenger, or is there a Linux equivalent.06:28
jaksapt-get install gaim06:28
Mad3Max3richiefrich, since the 6.06.1 wont boot.. maybe the beta will06:29
ROBOdrichiefrich: how?06:29
JoeCoTX92|James: for games, you can try wine, cedega, or crossover office. they all have varying results, but none are going to run games at full speed (as fast as windows)06:29
X92|James:(06:29
klm-kulbir: msg me if you get the answer :P06:29
X92|JamesAnyway, be right back.06:29
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Mad3Max3richiefrich, And it's called edgy or something I belive06:29
kulbirklm-: lol06:29
jaksX92|James: there gaimwhich is an IM for anything, or aMSN which is more for MSN06:29
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kulbirklm-: sure06:29
richiefrichMad3Max3 i suggest a differ distro.. or did you try to pass any boot options06:30
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klm-kulbir: thanks!06:30
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richiefrichROBOd i need to know some info 1st06:30
jaksheh i want windows live messenger on ubuntu..06:30
W9ZEB-Larswhat's the actual release date of Edgy?06:30
ROBOdgot it working06:30
ROBOdthanks guys06:30
ROBOd:)06:30
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richiefrichROBOd ok06:30
JoeCoTklm: http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/06/0612209&tid=49&tid=4706:30
georgyjaks : gaim or install amsn06:30
richiefrichbitlee06:30
cgahi , how do i see if i have a .deb installed ? (not in repos btw)06:30
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jaksgeorgy: i know i know, i use gaim. but i like windows live - gaim's boring!06:31
defryskcga, you can see it in synaptic when u use the filters available06:31
richiefrichbitlbee06:31
W9ZEB-Larsjaks: you could try, although I doubt it'll work knowing Microsoft, using wine or Crossover Office06:31
cgadefrysk, i'm on kubuntu and don't use synaptic , any CLI ?06:31
Gwildorit probably needs .net06:31
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jaksi got msn messenger 7 running through wine.. anything newer doesn't work06:32
W9ZEB-Larsjaks: since most new Microsoft products check to see what version OS you're on, I doubt it'll work.06:32
Mad3Max3richiefrich, well.. the Dapper has problem reading my discs.. so it's a disc reading problem.. and since my dvd driver can read dists like Knoppix.. I belive it's the Dapper bootdisc that is corrupt06:32
defryskcga, can be done on cli but not sure how06:32
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JoeCoTmorbid88: any luck?06:32
cgadefrysk, thanks anyway =)06:32
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ZaggynlHi, I've been trying to get my monitor to run at 60 hz (it's optimum refresh rate), but I can't find a way how to set that :(06:32
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ZaggynlThe Gnome tools only lists 75hz06:32
richiefrichMad3Max3 does knoppix boot06:32
mr_danielunder ubuntu a nice weather-applet is available06:32
mr_danielbut06:32
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JoeCoTZaggynl: in your xorg.conf06:32
defryskbad wetaher too06:32
W9ZEB-LarsThe None beta release date for EdgyEft is?06:32
mr_danielwhere the program get's the weatger-data?06:32
jaksand cxoffice has win98/200 'bottles' -- live msgr needs xp!06:33
mr_danieland the cool small icon's06:33
defryskmr_daniel, in the prefs06:33
ZaggynlJoeCoT, I tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and editing xorg.conf, but still nothing :(06:33
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Mad3Max3richiefrich, Yes.. without any errors..06:33
SlayedbyGoukifsck people...I can't find the frickin' D-Link DWL 620+ listed on the compatible list for ubuntu..it works or I wouldn't be typing to you right now...anyone know which chipset this uses? They vary by model..duh06:33
JoeCoTZaggynl: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=47286806:33
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Zaggynlthanks06:33
mr_danieldefrysk: i am not asking how to set the location, I am asking for the source where the weather-data come from ?06:33
richiefrichMad3Max3  can you  try to pass options at boot on dapper idk i have not used it06:33
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Mad3Max3richiefrich, but knoppix isn't my taste in dist.. like the ubuntu.. Just dl knoppix so see if it would boot on my new comp.. and it did..06:34
jaksSlayedbyGouki: you might be able to figure out the chipset from lspci/lsusb06:34
meheren|i need to set up a extremely secure proxy and firewall does anyone have some suggestions for progroms to use?06:34
richiefrichMad3Max3 no i am sure but there are many06:34
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kmaynardmeheren|, linksys :)06:34
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meheren|ok thx06:35
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richiefrichMad3Max3 as for why it doesnt boot  there can be many reasons06:35
Mad3Max3richiefrich, I can pass options before starting the boot.. in the menu06:35
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nnwhats a good cd-burning app in gnome (ubuntu/dapper preferably) that can do audio from mp3/ogg? :)06:35
richiefrichMad3Max3 if you can then try06:35
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defrysknn, serpentine06:36
Mad3Max3richiefrich, try what?06:36
W9ZEB-Larsmeheren|: if you've got an old pc laying around, and a couple/few network cards, take a look at ipcop.org06:36
nnAhh, thank you :)06:36
richiefrichnn cdrecord06:36
W9ZEB-Larsmeheren|: or monowall06:36
richiefrichMad3Max3 well they usually have options you can try06:36
nnrichiefrich, that's fine for me, not for the wife who's too impatient to fool with bash :)06:36
kulbirklm-: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_and_Print_to_a_Virtual_PDF_Printer06:36
nndefrysk, Unsupported file type :|06:37
richiefrichnn i have a greaT page for you then06:37
meheren|W9ZEB-Lars, heh i have nethier... :( the only pc i have on me is a macbook06:37
meheren|(intel)...06:37
nndefrysk, by chance know the package providing mp3 support?06:37
defrysknn you need to read about restricted formats06:37
farruinnHow do I specify which version of automake I want to use? I have automake1.4 and automake1.7 installed. Would it be safe to remove 1.4?06:37
defrysk!mp306:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:37
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richiefrichnn http://penguinslair.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=306:37
meheren|kmaynard, synaptic can't find that package (linksys) do you know the name of the package?06:37
morbid88JoeCoT: Is that Host='localhost' supposed to be after the SET and before the WHERE?06:38
morbid88deedubb: It doesn't seem to be a priviliges issue, it won't accept th password after Ive set it.06:38
morbid88JoeCoT: I think that may have fixed it. I'm going to check on phpmyadmin. Thanks, mate!06:38
deedubbmorbid88: does ubuntu use the OLD_PASSWORD() ?06:38
defryskrichiefrich, please refer to official ubuntu pages06:38
JoeCoTmorbid88: np. the reason was that you're on localhost, and there was no user line for it06:38
Mad3Max3richiefrich, tried a couple of others optical drives.. with a old CD-ROM I actually got past the first stage.. it crashed later on thou.. with a Kernel panic error! :(06:38
richiefrichdefrysk err why ?06:38
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defryskrichiefrich, cos its not supported by ubuntu06:39
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deedubbor you could've done mysql -h <hostname> -u root -p06:39
richiefrichdefrysk what cdrecord ?06:39
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defryskrichiefrich, the howto's on that website06:39
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richiefrichdefrysk thats supported by any distro works in any distro06:40
defryskrichiefrich, just use ubuntu pages or shush06:40
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richiefrichdefrysk then kick me06:40
TheBigToehey guys, I installed ubuntu and then reinstalled windows xp and it's overwritten GRUB, how do I get it back again?06:40
meheren|kmaynard, synaptic can't find that package (linksys) do you know the name of the package?06:40
defryskSeveas, u there ?06:40
Seveasno06:41
JoeCoTmeheren: he was joking. he meant buy a linkysys router/firewall06:41
defryskgood ;p06:41
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TheBigToehey guys, I installed ubuntu and then reinstalled windows xp and it's overwritten GRUB, how do I get it back again?06:41
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Seveas!grub > TheBigToe06:42
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iliyaHi, I tried Kubuntu and I'm going to insatll it, it detect allmy hardware, But Please HELP how to enter pass and login to detected wireless network06:42
taniatania491992@hotmail.com06:42
Seveas!wifi > iliya06:42
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TheBigToethanks Seveas06:42
iliyaHi, I tried Kubuntu and I'm going to insatll it, it detect allmy hardware, But Please HELP how to enter pass and login to detected wireless networkyes06:42
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tocim trying to install ati driver on ubunty edgy, but when i try to sudo apt-get install fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r) it says: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-7-generic ??06:42
morbid88JoeCoT: I'm lagging terribly. but I was always referring to 'localhost'. So why didn't it work?06:42
richiefrichnn but that page shows many things you can do06:42
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meheren|ok hmm what do i have to do to get anon-proxy up and running?06:42
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Seveastoc, dude, do a kernel upgrade and reboot06:43
richiefrichMad3Max3 sorry man now what06:43
tocwill try06:43
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grizzmocksomebody there to explain a linux dau, who to install a vnc server on Xubuntu (to controll the pc from a windows machine (with ULTRAVnc)06:43
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PepperBobhi all!06:44
nnrichiefrich,  thanks06:44
richiefrichnn no problem i find it faster06:44
JoeCoTmorbid88: because the hostname for that user line for root wasn't localhost. it was something else which i forget (the result you got when you selected). So it basically was running "select * from users where user='root' and host='localhost' and password=password('12345')", got no results, and denied you access.06:44
tocehum, how do one upgrade the kernel?06:44
kaotanyone able to recommend a good linux-compatible tv tuner card?06:44
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Seveastoc, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:45
nnI usually do things from sh, but she's just recently moving to ubuntu, liking it so far ok tho06:45
tocmake dep ; make bzImage i can grasp, just never did it on ubuntu before :/06:45
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richiefrichtoc  you need to install the headers  and the source if  you do it by hand06:45
boinktoc: there's a better way to compile the kernel06:46
JoeCoTbbiab06:46
boinkuse the debian way, it makes it into a .deb06:46
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boink!kernel06:46
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild06:46
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boink!tell toc about kernel06:46
tocyeah I know what the kernel is, just not used to using apt-get to do it for me06:47
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richiefrichcd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make && make install modules_install06:47
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nnthanks for the pointer to the mp3 stuff :)06:47
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morbid88JoeCoT: aaaah. gotcha! so that means I didn't even HAVE a 'root'@localhost? 'cos then it would have come up in a select * where user=root....06:48
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farruinntoc: There is also a debian howto that may be helpful to you. Check www.debian.org/doc06:49
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ZaggynlMeh, I just tried poking around with modeslines in xorg.conf, but I didn't work and I had to put my backup xorg in palce06:50
Zaggynl*place06:50
ZaggynlI still can't get my monitor to run at 60hz :>06:50
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Charminthemoosehi,my brother is going to install ubuntu on his computer and i'm just asking how debian like is ubuntu?'cos i'm running debian atm06:50
Zaggynlbleeding edge debian06:50
cfmmorbid88: Exactly - you couldn't log in because the user had somehow disappeared.  Fixing the password was changing the password on a different user, not the one you were logging in with ;-)06:50
farruinnZaggynl: Why do you want it to? 60 Hz hurts my eyes :)06:50
Zaggynlfarruinn, optimal refresh rate of my LCD monitor06:51
nnCharmin: I use both, i prefer ubuntu's package selection :)06:51
GwildorCharminthemoose, configs & such are the same...jsut packages are different.. (incompatable repo's)06:51
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morbid88man o man. Learn soemthing new every day.Thanks guys, until next time!06:51
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Zaggynlgnome-display-properties only lists 75zh at Refresh rates, how can I add more?06:51
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Charminthemoosethanks guys06:52
vivi_hi06:53
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Zaggynl'lo06:53
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vivi_how are you today?06:54
yemuhello, anyone can help me with setting up a shared printer in ubuntu? i've tried a lot of howtos from the net but t still doesn't work06:54
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boggleZaggynl: probably 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' will offer you some more choices? I recommend saving the working x configuration though06:54
Zaggynlboggle, I ran that, but it still only lists 75hz06:54
yemui have a working printer on one computer, and just want to share it06:54
yemuwith cups06:55
vivi_beszl valaki magyarul?06:55
PepperBobwhat should i add to the sources.list to access testing branch? i'm running dapper on amd6406:55
PepperBobi need newer packages than the ones in the default sources06:55
juanmaq tal?06:55
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vivi_uh06:55
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ZaggynlI know the right vertical and horizontal refresh rates for my monitor, but I don't know how to force my monito to 60hz :(, and modelines make my X crash06:56
indrefOk, what the hell is wrong with my mouse?06:56
dutchyhello, I have a question about installing AmaroK on Gnome (using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok ) apt-get install amarok returns "amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable" ... can anyone tell me how i get that lib?06:56
vivi_I don't speak english06:56
indrefvivi_, Heh.06:56
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notwistanyone know if i can create torrents in rTorrent?06:56
Rur0un1vivi_, which country ?06:56
Mad3Max3If the edgy version won't work I will make christmas decoractions of all the Ubuntu discs I've burned this day..06:56
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indrefMy touch pad is just plain not working and I need help with it.06:56
Rur0un1vivi_, !es06:56
Mad3Max3and send them to the Ubuntu team!06:56
Mad3Max3lol06:56
Rur0un1indref, what is wrong about it ?06:57
Rur0un1Mad3Max3, could you fix the problem ?06:57
Mad3Max3no06:57
PepperBobdutchy: i guess you have some wrong sources.list entries06:57
vivi_I fon is hungary Rur0un106:57
Rur0un1!hun06:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:57
vivi_I from..06:57
indrefRur0un1, It freezes now and then. and sometimes when I switch users it stops working at all.06:57
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Rur0un1!hu06:57
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu06:57
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PepperBobi used06:57
Mad3Max3tried to burn the dist on a other burner.. on a other machine..06:57
vivi_tudok06:57
Rur0un1vivi_, !hu06:57
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PepperBobdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main06:57
vivi_mrhogy magyarul06:57
PepperBobdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse06:58
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PepperBobthat should work out06:58
de4dpixelhey, does anyone know if its still posible to install ubuntu 6.06 using the non graphical installation that was used in ubuntu 5.10, without using the server install disk?06:58
PepperBobmaybe you need06:58
PepperBobdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main06:58
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vivi_ubuntu igen magyarul beszlek he te tudsz az szpi06:58
PepperBobde4dpixel, this should work via the alternative installer06:58
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indrefRur0un1, Any ideas?06:58
jaksde4dpixel: theres another disk, the alternative one..06:58
Dot-commdoes anyone know if there is a command to get GDM to work, it crashes all the time on my comp :[06:59
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Rur0un1indref, it is hard to diagnose the problem, how ever there are things you can do. The configuration file for touchpad is /etc/X11/Xorg.conf. You may like to check it out06:59
PepperBobis there a unbuntu testing branch where i can access newer packages?06:59
Dot-commdoes anyone know if there is a command to get GDM to work, it crashes all the time on my comp :[06:59
dutchyPepperBob: i'll doublecheck what my sources.list looks like... the first address you gave shouldve been added by the commands on that page already06:59
de4dpixeljaks: i cant get to a burner just now, im trying to do it with the live install disk, are there any boot options I can use?06:59
vivi_uh06:59
indrefRur0un1, I've been all over that, I don't know enough to fix the problem.06:59
jaksPepperBob: you mean edgy?06:59
Rur0un1indref, also check out the log files at /var/log/Xorg.log.0 or similar places06:59
indrefRur0un1, Hmm, log files, that could work.06:59
PepperBobPepperBob, I'm not too familiar with the ubuntu versions. but edgy = testing? then yes07:00
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jaksde4dpixel: not that i know of i'm afraid.07:00
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vivi_The englesh is good:D07:00
Rur0un1indref, also search your hardware if it works with linux and ubuntu through , google and ubuntu forums07:00
de4dpixelah, ok, thanks anyway07:00
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PepperBobjaks,  I'm not too familiar with the ubuntu versions. but edgy = testing? then yes07:00
PepperBob:D07:00
Rur0un1PepperBob, edgy is the next release of ubuntu , is now in beta stage07:01
Rur0un1!edgy07:01
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule07:01
indrefRur0un1, I don't know what the hardware is.07:01
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PepperBobjaks, have i just to exchange dapper with edgy?07:01
PepperBobjaks, in the sources.list?07:01
jaksPepperBob: yeah Edgy is in testing for just a few more ays though07:01
jaks*days07:01
PepperBobjaks, great thank you.07:01
frying_fishPepperBob: easiest option for upgrade is to do sudo update-manager -c -d07:01
vivi_ubuntu itt vagy mg??07:01
Rur0un1indref, what is your computers brand , dell, hp? searh like, hp touchpad ubuntu07:01
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frying_fishand that should help guide you through the process much easier.07:01
tocanyone tried the ati open source drivers and aiglx here?07:02
indrefRur0un1, It's a Dell Latitude C80007:02
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A[D] minS!schedule07:02
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:02
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tochow's the performance, compared to Xgl/fglrx?07:02
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Mad3Max3im downloadning edgy as we speak.. I hope it will boot.., since dapper didn't07:02
jaks!schedule07:02
vivi_ubuntu tudsz magyarul??07:02
indrefRur0un1, "Duplicate core pointer devices.  Removing core pointer attribute from "Syn$"07:03
CripperZhie07:03
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CripperZdoes anyone here runs vps on ubuntu ?07:03
Psychobudgiegot edgy running here with Beryl on nVidia AIGLX07:03
PepperBobfrying_fish, what invokes -c and -d ?07:03
Rur0un1indref, search this in google and ubuntu forums07:03
indrefRur0un1, I got nothing.07:03
Psychobudgiewas painless getting it running07:03
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frying_fishPepperBob: -c -d is the "show the latest development version and allow me to use it" option07:03
Dot-commdoes anyone know the command to get GDM to start07:03
dutchyPepperBob: with even kde-lastest added it still returns that error, do you have any other ideas?07:03
vivi_ubuntu:do you speak haungary?07:03
Dot-commdoes anyone know the command to get GDM to start07:03
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frying_fishDot-comm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start07:04
Dot-commdoes anyone know the command to get GDM to start07:04
jaksvivi_07:04
jaks!hu07:04
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu07:04
Dot-commty07:04
boggleDot-comm: init 5?07:04
frying_fishDot-comm: stop spamming.07:04
PepperBobdutchy, what version are you using?07:04
Rur0un1indref, just search "Duplicate core pointer devices" in google and you get something07:04
Dot-commdapper07:04
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indrefRur0un1, I get something, eh?07:04
PepperBobfrying_fish, thx07:04
vivi_yes i !hu jaks07:04
frying_fishDot-comm: you have to allow time for people to answer.07:04
Dot-commsorry07:04
frying_fishPepperBob: you're welcome07:04
Dot-comm:[07:04
vivi_:D07:04
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Dot-commk im goin07:04
jaksvivi_ type /join #ubuntu-hu07:04
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Genixwhen i try to log into ubuntu it just gives me an error and then goes back to the login screen07:04
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Genixbut it goes too quick for me to read it07:04
PepperBobdutchy, what ubuntu version?07:04
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Genixis there a log i can read?07:05
dutchyPepperBob: dapper07:05
vivi_I sorry , becausa i don't speak english07:05
wes_what's the most straightforward way to get perl on ubuntu (6.06) with ithreads enabled?07:05
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vivi_ I sorry , becausei don't speak english07:05
vivi_ I sorry , because  don't speak english jaks07:05
Rur0un1indref, frankly I don't think that line is correlated with the problem07:05
indrefRur0un1, And why not.07:06
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Rur0un1indref, just an instinct07:06
jaks--> #ubuntu-hu <--07:06
PerhamXhello guys07:06
PepperBobdutch what is it saying when you try07:06
PepperBobapt-cache showpkg libvisual07:06
Genixanyone?07:06
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PerhamXhow can i play my dvds on ubuntu?07:06
grizzmocka linux dau is trieing to install a VNC Server on Xubuntu....cann somebody help pls?07:06
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Rur0un1indref, probably there is some misconfiguration in the Xorg.conf07:06
misternyiherreI am having som problems with my wlancard, can't seem to find the router(on ubuntu dapper) but obviously it works on windows(this mashine), anyone who may know howcome?07:06
PerhamXthis is not active by default07:06
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vivi_jaks: I don't take you07:06
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Rur0un1indref, paste your Xorg.conf to pastebin and let me check07:07
indrefRur0un1, Ok, just a sec.07:07
PepperBobdutchy, i guess it isn't telling about a version >= 0.4.007:07
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grizzmockcan i install the gnome VNC Server (vino) on Xubuntu?07:07
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frying_fishPerhamX: sudo apt-get install vlc07:07
PepperBobdutchy, sorry to ask that: but you did an apt-get update after changing sources.list?07:07
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PerhamXand what about mp3?07:08
farruinnGenix: There might be in /var/log/gdm07:08
dutchyPepperBob: i did07:08
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frying_fishPerhamX: then sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh07:08
Genixhmm07:08
Rur0un1PerhamX, I strongly recommend you the Automatix project, search it in the google07:08
frying_fishand for mp3, vlc will play them, or you can use xmms07:08
PepperBobdutchy, is showpkg saying something about the depending version?07:08
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Genixwhat could be causing this problem though?07:08
vivi_valaki beszl magyarul?07:08
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Dot-commi lost the GDM thing what was it07:09
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dutchyPepperBob: showpkg amarok ?07:09
Dot-commyo fish fry07:09
Dot-commwhat was the GDM command again07:09
grizzmockstupid question: if i installed the VNC Server "Vino" where can i start / configure it?07:09
PerhamXRur0un1: and what exacly is it?07:09
PepperBobdutchy, apt-cache showpkg libvisual07:09
frying_fishDot-comm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start07:10
farruinnGenix: The most common reason I've known gdm to fail login is ~/.ICEauthority has bad permissions from doing stuff as root.07:10
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farruinnGenix: That is a complete guess though, not necessarily your problem.07:10
Genixhow would i fix that?07:10
PepperBobdutchy, mh.. it can't find it on my system... ?-/07:10
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NetVampHi, I'm right in the middle of installing the Ubuntu Server CD and I'm stuck at the HDD Partition stuff, I do have hda, hdb and hdd (hdc is a CDRom). HDA 20gig should become 3 partitions, one 8gb ext3 for root, one 2gb for a swap partition and 10gb for data. But I seem to be unable to create more than one partition on it07:10
Genixif that was the problem07:10
Rur0un1PerhamX, it is an automatic installer for ubuntu via gui, that it installs everything you need including DVD mp3 support very easily07:10
PerhamXhow can i enable root account on my ubuntu. i am a home user07:10
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indrefRur0un1, Just a sec..07:10
Rur0un1PerhamX, don't do it, just use sudo07:10
farruinnGenix: do 'ls -l ~/.ICEauthority' to see if root owns it.07:10
PepperBobah, it's called libvisual-0.4-007:11
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NetVampif I hit enter on the unused space all I get is Show cylinder/head/sector ... information07:11
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PepperBobdutchy, sorry for the confusion.. pls try apt-cache showpkg libvisual-0.4-007:11
Genixfarruinn:  and if root doesn't own it?07:11
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farruinnGenix: Then it's not a problem07:12
umoI'm installing wlancar on ubuntu, but make all function fails (no such file...)07:12
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Genixoh07:12
Genixbut if root owns it that's bad?07:12
vivi_Who speak hungary  here?07:12
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dutchyPepperBob: yeah that returns the package... im guessing i have to install it seperate and then try amarok again?07:12
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farruinnGenix: yes. There weren't any errors in the logs under /var/log/gdm?07:13
PepperBobdutchy, it think this is blocked by some other packe07:13
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PepperBobpackage07:13
Genixfarruinn: i'm not on linux right now07:13
Genixtrying to see if i can access the hd from osx07:13
PepperBobdutchy, does the output saying something about which packages are blocking this one?07:13
ZaggynlI'm unable to get my monitor use any other refresh rate then 75hz, I tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg' but 'gnome-display-propertie' only lists 75hz07:13
farruinnGenix: oh, do you have that extfs kernel extension for os x?07:14
Genixi just got some program going to see if it works07:14
PerhamXbut sudo makes me type so much more when i want to excute many commands as super user07:14
umoI'm installing wlancar on ubuntu, but make all function fails (no such file...) help anyone?07:14
Genixi will search for that extension07:14
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Genixguess i need to restart for it to work07:14
dutchyPepperBob: it returns an empty 'Versions:' part and Reverse Depends: amarok,libvisual-0.4-0 0.4.007:14
Genixso brb07:14
dutchyand some other empty n/a stuff07:14
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lolkaareI've installed TeamSpeak, but I cant get the microphone to work in it, it works perfectly fine in Skype... Anyone can help?07:15
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grizzmockcan somebody explain me how to install a vnc server on Xubuntu? (used the package manager and installed "vnc-common" , but dont know where to start/configure :( )07:15
kupesoftis there a good fax server for linux that windows clients can use?07:16
PepperBobdutchy, libvisual-0.4.0 depends on libc607:16
PerhamXRur0un1: is there any simple way to do that?07:16
PepperBobdutchy, can you please check if you have libc6 installed?07:17
Genixhmm07:17
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boinkkupesoft: hylafax07:17
dutchyPepperBob: will do.. btw trying to install libvisual gives Package libvisual-0.4-0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:17
dutchyThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:17
pike_grizzmock: i normally just apt-get vnc-server then run the command vncpasswd to create a password then run vncserver :02   the :02  can be whatever  then to connect to it vncclient ipaddress:0207:17
dutchyis only available from another source07:17
boinkbut it's not the easiest to setup, but it does work quite well07:17
dutchyE: Package libvisual-0.4-0 has no installation candidate07:17
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PepperBobdutchy, can you please post you sources.list to some flood place?07:18
pike_grizzmock: vncviewer ipaddress:02 i mean07:18
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dutchyPepperBob: k, sec07:18
Genixif i install kde or xfce will beryl and stuff still work?07:18
ZemylaI have a question. I'm trying to compile SoXt, but it says I need Motif. Is there a Motif-compatible library I can apt-get?07:19
Dr_willisi thought there was some free variants of it..07:19
Dr_willisbut thats been ages ago since i last looked into that.07:19
ianmacgregorZemyla: There is one in the repos, don't remember the name. Maybe do a search in Synaptic for "motif"07:19
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indrefOk I'm back can I fix my damn mouse now? :D07:21
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dutchyPepperBob: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7CkyAx49.html07:21
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nolimitsoyaindref, whats wrong?07:21
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indrefnolimitsoya, My touchpad is rather unreliable.07:21
PepperBobdutchy, ok.. sec07:22
Gwildorjumpy skippy mp3's.....known fix??07:22
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nolimitsoyaindref, in what way?07:22
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grizzmockmy ubuntu can't find vnc-server ("sudo install vnc-sever")07:22
indrefnolimitsoya, It freezes for a certain account, and it commonly cuts out for a sec or two.07:22
jturekdoes anybody have an xorg.conf for a Dell D610 using Xinerama with a docking station and a 17in flatpanel?07:22
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nolimitsoyagrizzmock, try synaptic07:23
grizzmocki have installed a package called "vnc-common"07:23
nolimitsoyaindref, sure its not a hardwareproblem?07:23
pike_grizzmock: sorry its sudo apt-get install vncserver07:23
indrefnolimitsoya, I have no idea what the hell it is. It worked fine a week ago under windows.07:23
PepperBobdutchy, the only difference to my apt list is the backporst07:24
PepperBobbackports07:24
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ZemylaAlso, this is fun. I've got my Ubuntu VM filtered through Privoxy and (presumably) Tor, though I can't check the second part easily.07:24
PepperBobenable the backports, apt-get update and try again07:24
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umowhy does make all fail for me??07:24
grizzmockmh he can't find "vpnserver" :(07:24
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ZemylaHey cool, it is actually working!07:24
pike_grizzmock: vncserver07:24
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dutchyPepperBob: enlighten me about enabling backports :)07:25
nolimitsoyadutchy, sources in synaptic07:25
PepperBobdutchy, that's the two commented lines in your sources.list (line 25,26)07:25
nolimitsoyatick the box (if using edgy)07:25
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Anybodygoodnight everyone,have fun with ubuntu!!07:26
grizzmockdont know the englisch expression, no installcandidate?07:26
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kyjahow can I get bluetooth working on bcm4306 ?07:26
indrefnolimitsoya, I have a pastebin of my xorg.conf if you'd like.07:26
pike_grizzmock: im showing it in the universe repository it is possible you need to enable this in synaptic07:27
PepperBobdutchy, got it?07:27
dutchyPepperBob: suddenly it seems to work... rather strange imo :)07:27
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pike_!repository > grizzmock07:27
PhiniteI'm having a problem installing libxml-perl via apt.  I'm getting errors that I don't know how to deal with.  it installs fine on one box, but not on another.  what information can I give to make this make sense to you?07:27
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dutchyanyway, thanks PepperBob07:27
grizzmocki have used synaptic und searched for vnc, installed "vnc-common" and "vino" (although the comment was, that it is von gnome desktops)07:27
PepperBobdutchy, that is because those packages are not in the actual release but are backported07:28
J03anyone familiar with EVMS?  when i go to Action > Create > Container, nothing shows up to select from07:28
J03trying to make a raid5 array.07:28
pike_grizzmock: it will not show up in synaptic until the other repository is enabled07:28
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PepperBobdutchy, or do you mean it's works without enabled backports?07:28
dutchyok btw, just to show off: >>> Fetched 43.3MB in 6s (6936kB/s) <<<07:28
dutchyPepperBob: with them enabled07:28
PepperBobdutchy, ah!07:29
PepperBobdutchy, good. :)07:29
PepperBobdutchy, have fun07:29
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Phiniteactually, now even an apt-get dist-upgrade is failing indicating that other packages are screwed.  is there somewhere I can paste this for people to see?07:29
J03i must have screwed up somewhere07:29
pike_grizzmock: settings --> repositories in synaptic07:29
J03i'm sure of it07:29
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ZemylaHmm.  Then this means that I need to download and compile LessTif.07:29
Ninja562OK, hoary to breezy went fine, now breezy to dapper is running07:29
indrefSeriously people I can't use Ubuntu without a mouse, helplz?07:30
ZiRowould anyone agree that learning C in a linux environment would greatly enhance my linux experiance?07:30
pike_indref: alt-ctrl-f1 then login then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   might work07:30
Ninja562Ziro yes07:30
indrefZiRo, It would probably enhance your computer experience.07:30
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LjLZiRo: no, but i agree that it would enhance your programming experience :) but this is offtopic, you can bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you like07:31
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taliseinindref: unplug and plugin your mouse?07:31
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indrefpike_, That would kill my nvidia set  up.07:31
indreftalisein, It's a touchpad, my bad.07:31
ZiRoLjL, it's not offtopic, it's going somewhere07:31
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taliseinoh07:31
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taliseindid the touchpad work before?07:31
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indreftalisein, In windows, yes.07:31
jachyrahi all, i've added a module to /etc/module - I was wondering what directories Linux searches to find this module?07:31
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J03noone has any EVMS experience?07:31
POVaddctZiRo: it would enhance your ability to work with the shell, and using commands such as make, gcc and ld07:32
taliseinfrom the command line "grep synaptic /etc/X11/xorg.conf"07:32
taliseinJ03: I do07:32
LjLZiRo: well, it doesn't sound like a Ubuntu support question -- but anyway, the main reason i said that is that if you want to discuss that sort of topic, you're simply likely to find more responses on -offtopic07:32
taliseinJ03: let me check what my EVMS looks like ;)07:32
indreftalisein, Will that change the files?07:32
J03haha, ok07:32
taliseinindref: np07:32
taliseinindref: no07:32
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pike_jachyra: lib/modules/blah i believe07:32
J03what do you have to do to get it running to start with?  all i did was install the evmsgui through synaptic and then typed evmsgui in terminal07:32
carthikI added a line "gtk-button-images=0" to my ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file. Do I need to logout and login for this to take effect?07:33
indreftalisein,    Load    "synaptics"07:33
indref        Driver          "synaptics"07:33
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Ninja562So, what fun do I have to look foreward to with Dapper?07:33
jachyrapike_: thanks a bunch07:33
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crookseyNinja562, to much for some to handle!07:33
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taliseinindref: hmmmmm. And it doesn't work? Take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:33
J03talisein, do i need to put sysfs in the fstab?07:33
Ninja562In what way?07:33
indreftalisein, What am I looking for in there, that's a big file.07:33
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crookseyEase of use, simplicty, documentation and package availility07:33
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tonyyarussoNinja562: Possibly take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes?07:34
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ZiRoi've tried linux a few times, red hat in '99 (rubbish experiance with it, i didn't find the pair of eyes that followed the cursor any use), and ubuntu when they first started the free live cd's..07:34
taliseinindref: do a text search for synaptic. Also: any lines that start with (EE)07:34
Phinitethis is the error that I'm getting http://pastebin.com/80774507:34
Ninja562tonyyaruso: OK goin there now07:34
indreftalisein, Ok, just a sec.07:34
crookseyATI big desktop, is o nice on 19" LCD, i get so much space!07:34
LjLZiRo: you're *dissing the eyes*?! get out of here! :D07:35
taliseinJ03: sysfs should be created on its own07:35
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grizzmockpike_ : it works :)) get the connection, but i doesn't see anything (using on my windows machine UltraVNC Viewer )07:35
indreftalisein, Some (EE)s on wacom errors.07:35
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POVaddctZiRo: just because you dislike xeyes, you drop a whole distro?07:35
taliseinindref: what I did was format the hard drives as LVM207:35
J03talisein, it's not in my fstab.  just wondering if it needs to be because the EVMS guide says it does07:35
ZiRoubuntu amazed me in comparison to my red hat experiance, but i still found little use for it, i mean, i'd manage with it if windows suddenly died and never came back but the only way i can really be interested in using it is as a server, learning c or doing something i cant do in windows if you understand where i'm coming from07:36
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taliseinindref: and then those show up as containers07:36
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taliseinJ03: its not in my fstab either07:36
indreftalisein, What?07:36
taliseinindref: sorry, mistell07:36
indreftalisein, Ah.07:36
J03ok07:36
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crookseyI love debain, and ubuntu is perfect as a desktop07:36
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crookseyEverything is done for me07:36
J03and when you go to Action > Create > Container in evmsgui, does anything show up in teh box?07:36
taliseinindref: does it say the synaptic driver loads okay? wacom is a tablet driver07:37
LjLZiRo, if you actually want to be able to troubleshoot Linux problems, the things you should probably learn are more like shell scripting, the /etc/init.d startup system, runlevels, apt (in the case of Ubuntu) etc, rather than C07:37
ZiRothe reason i'm here is because i've got a box sitting beside me shy of an OS, and i'm looking for inspiration for uses07:37
LjLZiRo: you rarely actually need C unless you, well, want to write a program in C07:37
indreftalisein, There are quite a few Synaptics DeviceOff called and Synaptics DeviceOn called lines.07:37
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taliseinJ03: no, stuff only shows up if there is something available. The thing you're trying to add isn't mounted anywhere right?07:37
crookseyZiro, thought of debain 3.1?07:37
ZiRoLjL, i understand that, but it's something i've never got round to07:37
J03probably right07:37
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taliseinindref: what brand laptop?07:37
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notwistI have an SMB share active.. my xbox can see it fine, but when i try to browse \\myip with a laptop it asks for auth :( whyy07:38
indreftalisein, Dell Latitude C80007:38
ZiRocrooksey, honestly, no...07:38
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ZiRoi felt ubuntu was the easy way into linux when conducting research07:38
crookseyZiRo, its great as  a server or a desktop07:38
taliseinindref: lol, google turns up your forum post from 2 weeks ago. Weird that no one answered ><07:39
indreftalisein, No, it's not weird at all.07:39
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zachpruckowskisilly question when someone gets a chance - does anyone know what kernel Edgy's RC and/or final version has?07:39
indreftalisein, It's a big forum.07:39
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Russelhiho07:39
Russelwill there be a software support jingle out of the box in edgy?07:39
crooksey2.6.17, i think07:39
taliseinoh, it works sometimes?07:39
Ninja562ZiRo: I wouldn't go so far as to say "easy", but that was my assesment as well07:39
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LjLZiRo, though of building your own Linux system, using something like linux from scratch, or just trial and error? if you just want to learn, rather than have a daily-work-usable system, that certainly can help.07:39
SuperMiguelwhich is a good mail server?07:39
ZiRoi find the world of linux incredibly hard to penetrate mostly due to the fact that MANY tutorials/guides/howtos exist that tell you to do this and that, but don't explain what it is actually doing07:39
zachpruckowskiDarn.  Apparently I need 2.16.19 for a driver for my Mac Pro.  Is there a slipstreaming system?07:40
taliseinJ03: if you can't figure out EVMS I can tell you how to use mdadm to make your raid07:40
tweakismSuperMiguel: Postfix is nice.07:40
indrefZiRo, I agree.07:40
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crookseyZiRo, you will like Gentoo or Arch07:40
SuperMigueltwekism do you use it?07:40
infideli want to make a script that opens an xterm names it and changes to a certain directory, i have the open and name pert but how can i make is cd to a certain directory07:40
J03yeah i guess there's no hope for idiot savants such as myself07:40
ZiRocrooksey, but not ubuntu?07:40
J03i didnt know the disks had to be mounted first07:41
J03i'm playing withit07:41
LjLZiRo, then ask here (or in #ubuntu-offtopic). i, for one, would be very glad of explaining what something is doing rather than just how it's done (well, if it's something i know anything about of course, that is) -- that's something most people actually *don't* want to hear on here07:41
crookseyZiRo, if you want to get more from Linux, ubuntu isnt the distro07:41
indreftalisein, Any ideas so far?07:41
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tweakismZiRo: Documentation is a very importnt aspect of program distributions, but tinkering programmers don't like to spend time on it.. in a world w/o paid, professional technical writers, inadequate documentation is par for the course.  you get what you pay for, but you're right, it's a big hold back.07:41
Ninja562Rats, this update is takeing forever07:41
crookseyIts a great windows replacement, but for learning i wouldnt07:41
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taliseinindref: the ZSNES screen blanking issue is due to the program not communicating to the x server that it should block the screensaver.07:41
indrefUbuntu replaced WinXp for me rather nicely.07:42
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indreftalisein, I don't have a screensaver.07:42
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taliseingnome-screensaver is installed automatically07:42
taliseinI think07:42
indreftalisein, I turned it off.07:42
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ircnewbGreetings!07:42
taliseinooooh, and it still turns blank?07:42
indreftalisein, Yes.07:42
taliseini imagine you are using a gamepad?07:43
crookseyircnewb, hey07:43
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indreftalisein, Still, I need my touchpad, it's a more pressing issue.07:43
Jupphello07:43
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taliseinas for the touchpad I think its a hardware issue, unless those Unload and Load statements repeat a lot at the very end of the Xorg log file07:43
richiefrichindref  is this in your    /etc/X11/xorg.conf-->     Option      "dpms"07:43
ircnewbHello, I just installed ubuntu and I installed my ati drivers. But for some reason my resoultion won't go higher than 640x480. Is there anyone way to fix this?07:43
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ZiRothanks for your comments, anything i will say now will be in the OT channel07:43
Juppi need some help07:43
Juppi use ubuntu 6.1007:44
crookseyoh god07:44
Juppnow i have an error07:44
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indrefrichiefrich, (II) Loading extension DPMS07:44
Juppwith apt-get07:44
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JuppDynamic MMap ran out of room07:44
richiefrichindref thats why it goes black07:44
Alakazamz0rSetting up kubuntu-desktop (1.21) ...07:44
Alakazamz0rRunning prelink, please wait...07:44
Alakazamz0rMAD w00tish07:44
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Juppi search for /etc/apt/apt.conf07:45
gothenburgser jag era07:45
gothenburg>.<07:45
indrefrichiefrich, Why.07:45
gothenburgwrong channel07:45
taliseinJupp: run 'top', then hit '>' and see if something is using a lot of memory?07:45
richiefrichindref thats what that does07:45
taliseinindref: DPMS is the Dynamic Power Management System07:45
indreftalisein, There must be twenty or more different references to synaptic all through my Xorg.0.log file.07:45
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indrefrichiefrich, Should I kill it or what.07:46
Juppmemoriy is ok07:46
tp_how to mount my ipod?07:46
Zerb_RissDoes anyone have any spare official Hoary CDs?07:46
taliseinat the end of the file?07:46
tp_i got "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde"07:46
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richiefrichindref if you dont want it then remove the  line from xorg.conf07:46
taliseindo any of those synaptic lines start with (WW)?07:46
indrefrichiefrich, I don't want my machine to overheat.07:46
Juppi know this error, i have to change apt-cache size07:46
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Juppin /etc/apt/apt.conf07:47
ircnewbHow do I get a higher resoultion of 640x480 on Drapper Drake, after I have installed the offical ATI drivers.07:47
ircnewb?07:47
Juppbit in 6.10 ther is no /etc/apt/apt.conf07:47
richiefrichindref whats this have to do with the computer?07:47
LjLircnewb: you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"07:47
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kmaynardircnewb, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:47
gothenburgsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?07:47
ircnewbThanks07:47
kmaynardJINX07:47
crookseyircnewb, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:47
gothenburg:p07:47
kmaynardyou ppl owe me cokes07:47
richiefrichindref that makes the  "montior" go black07:47
indreftalisein, (WW) Duplicate core pointer devices.  Removing core pointer attribute from "Synaptics Touchpad"07:47
oiaddo btdownloadgui.bittornado and btdownloadheadless.bittornado use the same configuration?07:47
crookseyAnd add the resoloutions in the relavent section07:48
J03ok i got evms somewhat figured out now.  now to figure out how to make a raid5 array on it07:48
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ircnewbLast time I edited xorg.conf, bad things happened, I had to reinstall :-(07:48
kmaynardJ03, i did raid 1 with the server installer07:48
ircnewbI was trying to install Xgl07:48
J03yeah but i need to be able to expand the array07:48
crookseyircnewb, ill give you all the commands you need, without editing then07:48
taliseinhmm07:48
J03EVMS allows you to expand arrays.  i dont think LVM or anything does really07:49
kmaynardJ03, use the installer to get it running then expand as you need07:49
indreftalisein, I think that is it.07:49
Juppanyone know my problem too?07:49
LjLircnewb: you only "had to reinstall" because you didn't know how to restore it -- or rather, because you neglected to make a backup.07:49
taliseintry dpkg-reconfigure yourself07:49
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J03kmaynard, yeah i could probably do that, but EVMS supports creating the array.  i'd rather figure out how to do it with that07:49
LjLircnewb: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" makes a backup for you, by the way.07:49
raintheoryircnewb: yeah just back it up before messing with it07:49
crookseysudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) --then -- sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx --then -- sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=X --then reboot07:49
ircnewbOkay07:49
taliseinthen take a look at the new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and search for CorePointer and see how many tehre are.07:49
kmaynardJ03, so be it )07:49
J03it's the terminology that gets me.  not sure if i need to make a container, feature object, region, etc07:50
kmaynard:) even07:50
indreftalisein, Please tab me I'm having trouble following this channel.07:50
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raintheoryso does anyone here think they can help me get S-Video working?07:50
kupesoftwhy is postfix required for hylafax?07:50
taliseinindref: try dpkg-reconfigure yourself, then take a look at the new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see how many CorePointers there are. If more than one, comment the others beside the touchpad out07:50
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taliseinJ03: LVM lets you resize your arrays, but yeah, its an unneeded level of abstraction07:51
ircnewbHow do you restart x server without rebooting?07:51
LjLircnewb: ctrl+alt+backspace07:51
raintheoryircnewb: ctrl-alt-backspace07:51
indreftalisein, I use a mouse from time to time, wouldn't that kill my ability to do that?07:51
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daniel_hooveru can restart xorg without reboot by sending Ctrl+alt+backspace07:51
ircnewbThanks :-)07:51
kmaynard sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart07:51
taliseinJ03: I think raids are "Regions"07:52
xavircnewb, you should log out before doing that07:52
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J03ok thanks07:52
LjLkmaynard, ircnewb: yes, but don't do that from inside a X terminal07:52
ircnewbOkay07:52
indreftalisein, I think I have my mouse and my touchpad both as core pointers..07:52
taliseinindref: no, I don't think so07:52
xavircnewb, kmaynard way should work too07:52
J03yes you're right talisein07:52
ZemylaHmm.  What would I have to do to add LessTif to the list of packages that can be apt-gotten?07:52
indreftalisein, My xorg.conf : http://pastebin.com/80773807:52
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kmaynardwhat is lesstif07:53
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taliseinloading.. ><07:53
indrefPastebin is sucky lately.07:53
xavyep07:53
LjL!info lesstif-bin07:53
ubotulesstif-bin: user binaries for LessTif. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.94.4-1 (dapper), package size 159 kB, installed size 432 kB07:53
raintheoryno takers on the S-Video thing?07:53
LjLZemyla: ^07:53
taliseinraintheory: what sort of videocard do you ahve, and which drivers are you using?07:53
indrefubotu, You need to be more verbose.07:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about You need to be more verbose. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:54
indrefNoob.07:54
xavtrue07:54
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ZemylaE: Couldn't find package: lesstif-bin07:54
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raintheoryusing nVidia GeForce FXgo 510007:54
taliseinstill loading07:54
LjLZemyla: then you probably don't have Universe enabled.07:54
LjL!universe > Zemyla07:54
taliseinraintheory: you want to use SVideo as a TVOut?07:54
ZemylaHow do I enable universe?07:54
raintheoryhow do i check the drivers for it?   I have XGL/Beryl installed if that helps07:54
LjLZemyla: follow the instructions from the bot07:55
raintheoryon dapper btw07:55
taliseinraintheory: you probably have the proprietary nvidia drivers07:55
raintheoryyes S-Video as TV out07:55
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taliseinraintheory: you want to watch movies on the tv?07:55
raintheorytalisein: yep07:55
fowlduckis it wise to remove the deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives???07:55
fowlduckor is it unwise?07:55
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taliseinraintheory: here's the thing, I have the same setup, but I have to keep the desktop at the same resolution as the tv (1024x768)07:55
Juppwhere can i change apt-cache size in 6.10?07:55
LjLfowlduck: what about "apt-get clean"?07:56
cherubielfowlduck: apt-get clean07:56
SuperMiguelwhich ip is my gateway address?07:56
LjLSuperMiguel: the router's IP, if you have a router07:56
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raintheoryeww.   1024x768 looks kinda funny on this laptop07:56
taliseinindref: it loaded07:56
indreftalisein, Finally.07:56
fowlduckyeah, that directory is loaded07:56
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J03what the heck is version 1 super block?07:57
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ajopaul_how to send/recieve files to nokia 6630 using usb cable ?07:57
taliseinindref: this is the version that gives the corepointer errors?07:57
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indreftalisein, Yup.07:57
taliseinJ03: ? Are you using xfs?07:57
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indreftalisein, I have more than one Xorg.something.log files.07:58
J03i wasnt planning on it07:58
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taliseinindref: are you using xgl?07:58
J03i dont know what file system i need to use really07:58
raintheoryso do I have to edit my xorg.conf and add the TV out?07:58
indreftalisein, What is that.07:58
LjL!tvout > raintheory07:58
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J03talisein, what file system would you suggest for software raid5?  my goal is to expand the array later07:59
taliseinraintheory: yeah, what you want to do is use TwinView (I think) and set the mode to Clone07:59
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SuperMiguellocalhost.localdomain localhost what is that mean?07:59
taliseinraintheory: you probably also want to do a ConnectedMonitor "DFP, TV" to force svideo out.07:59
LjLSuperMiguel: it's the standard internal hostname for your computer. leave it as it is.07:59
taliseinindref: xgl is like a Not-XServer xserver thing. nevermind :)07:59
ZemylaOkay, I edited the sources.list file, and am apt-get updating.07:59
SuperMiguelwhat about server1.example.com08:00
taliseinindref: I'd comment out the stylus, cursor, and eraser entries in Section ServerLayout08:00
indreftalisein, So, any ideas so far?08:00
indreftalisein, How do I do that.08:00
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taliseinindref: and delete the CorePointer thing after the synaptics touchpad08:01
LjLSuperMiguel: an example hostname i suppose...? what are you doing, and what are you trying to accomplish?08:01
taliseinindref: just put a # at the beginning of the line08:01
indreftalisein, brb phone08:01
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SuperMigueledit my /etc/hosts08:01
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SuperMiguelhttp://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p308:01
taliseinJ03: matters what sort of files you intend to put on08:01
raintheorytalisein: are you on dapper or edgy?08:01
SuperMiguelLjL: go to the 5th step08:01
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SuperMiguelpart 2 where is says then edit /etc/hosts08:02
taliseinraintheory: I have 3 computers, but the TV computer is running gentoo. ;)08:02
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raintheoryahh okay08:02
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J03talisein, it will be all sizes/types of files08:03
taliseinraintheory: I think I pulled my xorg.conf from a google on TV-Out nvidia08:03
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J03it'll namely be a backup server, but also large file storage for videos and stuff08:03
LjLSuperMiguel: i think you only want such a line (well, perhaps without calling the server "example") if you want to give a name to another machine on your network.08:03
taliseinJ03: I'd stick with ext3. As for expanding later, you mean add more drives to the raid?08:03
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J03yeah08:03
LjLSuperMiguel: the IP address of said machine being, in that example, 192.168.0.10008:03
raintheorytalsein: thanks, thats what i was just doing ;)08:03
J03i see that JFS allows you to expand while it's online, but that doesnt really matter08:03
taliseinJ03: I run a raid1, so I don't know if you need to use LVM for that or not08:03
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J03EVMS will expand the raid5 array08:03
SuperMiguelLjL: so i ahve a no-ip host can i put it there08:04
SuperMiguellike xxx.no-ip.info08:04
NaVaJoscusate, dove posso trovare le iso di Mubuntu video ?08:04
taliseinJ03: ok. did you deal with the version 1 superblock thing?08:04
SuperMiguelthe ip i changed08:04
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elfrangerhello08:04
edjuCan't administer a printer through CUPS - won't accept any password, user or root.  Any clue for the clueless appreciated.08:04
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LjLSuperMiguel: no, if you have already registered a hostname for your host, it'll just be fetched by the DNS system, you don't need to add it to /etc/hosts.08:05
J03talisein, i left it default as off08:05
elfrangerI am struggeling with proftpd. Using the proftpd.conf that came with the install, but I get Connection closed by remote host no matter what I try...08:05
J03no clue what it does still though08:05
LjLSuperMiguel: you only need to if you want it to have an *internal* name on your own machine08:05
pike_edju: if you type groups does it show you a member of lpadmin?08:05
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taliseinJ03: ok I guess. ;)08:05
ZemylaHmm.  Do you have any tips for helping me remember to type sudo in front of apt-get?  Because I always forget to do that.08:05
SuperMiguelok08:05
edjupielgrzym_, I'll check.08:05
LjLZemyla: make an alias, if that really bugs you.08:06
taliseinZemyla: slap yourself when you get the Are you root? error08:06
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edjupike_, yes, it does.08:06
taliseinZemyla: alternitively use synaptic, which will prompt for a password08:06
J-_is there a difference between abiword, and the openoffice word processor?08:06
taliseinYES08:06
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elfrangerCan't sudo su be used?08:07
taliseinabiword is like 8 megabytes, openoffice is like 8008:07
J03talisein, i must say you're a marvel of multitasking and linux knowledge.  thanks for the help08:07
LjLJ-_: uh, yes, namely they're two totally different programs. the point they do have in common is that they're both word processors.08:07
taliseinJ03: i try :)08:07
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ppj1010i'm getting a no screens error all the sudden w/xorg08:08
taliseindoes abiword in edgy use the open document format yet?08:08
ppj1010ran the config 50 times08:08
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indreftalisein, Ok back, where were we?08:08
ppj1010it seems like its only finding my onboard video card now, which subsequently is bad, not my voodoo308:08
ppj1010any suggestions?08:08
deltabZemyla: attach http://xkcd.com/c149.html to your monitor08:09
kjmDoes anyone have experience connecting to a  "WIndows share" from OS X from ubuntu.  I am having permissions issues and would like to get an "experts opinion".08:09
LjLtalisein: i don't think the Abiword team is committed to using OpenDoc by default in the foreseeable future. if you're asking whether it's *supposed* as an export format in the current version, then i don't know08:09
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taliseinindref: comment out the weird wacom, cursor, eraser, stylus entries in the ServerLayout section by putting a # at the front of the lines referencing them, and delete the CorePointer reference after the synaptic line08:09
pike_edju: thats odd if you sudo gedit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf it shows systemgroup as lpadmin? maybe try sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart08:09
deltabZemyla: alias apt-get='sudo apt-get'08:09
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indreftalisein, Ok, just a sec..08:10
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taliseinLjL: I see :(08:11
indreftalisein, Don't we want it to be a core pointer?08:11
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indreftalisein, All the same, I did as you asked :D08:11
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taliseinkjm: Places -> Connect to Server..., then look for a "Windows share" or "samba" entry in the clickable list. if no tthere, install samba08:12
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taliseinindref: eh, we can try w/ mouse as corepointer first, then try the other way. reboot the x-server by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and see what happens08:12
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xamoxis there a search for apt-get?08:12
kjmtalisein: done and done.  Share mounts fine.  I can read and modify already existing files.  When I try to create a new file - I don't have permission.08:12
LjLxamox: apt-cache search <filename>08:12
taliseinxamox: apt-cache search package08:12
kjmxamox : apt-cache search08:12
LjL!apt-get > xamox08:12
indreftalisein, That means I'd be right back..08:12
pike_xamox: apt-cache search something08:12
SeanTaterxamox: yes, instead of apt-get, say apt-cache search08:12
taliseinindref: ok. :)08:13
xamoxhaha, alright, thx all08:13
taliseinindref: hopefully, if not reverse ;)08:13
HeldonHello, Anyone know how to get RDP working with ubuntu? I've put in the ip address and it doesn't want to connect. Do i need to fill out the username, password and domain for it to work also or should it prompt me for it?08:13
SeanTaterxamox: one note: apt-cache does not need sudo08:13
xamoxdoes that search just names or names & desc?08:13
LjLxamox: both08:13
taliseinkjm: hrm.08:13
xamoxalright, thx08:13
Ninja562Hello, I get an XML parsing error "not well formed" when I try to save a page in Firefox, any suggestions?08:13
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kjmI think it is most likely OS X issue - but it is weirdo....08:14
LjLxamox: if you want just name, a trick is apt-cache search <term> | grep -i <term>08:14
taliseinkjm: I think OS X uses the same samba software underneath08:14
xamoxLjL:  alright, thx08:14
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edjupike_, cupsd.conf indeed shows systemgroup as lpadmin.  However, I just restarted cupsys and CUPS just accepted a users password.  But not root's.  It's a workaround, but thyanks a lot.08:14
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taliseinkjm: I don't know how OS X is set up, but try and find some samba.conf file or something ;)08:15
kjmtalisein - yes.  But, the permissions system is a bit different.  So it seems when I log in I can read/modify already existing files - but not create new ones.08:15
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kjmtalisein : thanks - I shall look around. :)08:15
indreftalisein, Well, everything seems fine so far.08:15
indreftalisein, It will take time to figure out whether it worked or not.08:15
xamoxanyone here use 7zip from command line, if so how do I invoke it?08:15
taliseinindref: ok08:15
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xamoxahh, just 7z08:16
sparkleytonekjm: whats the issue?08:16
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taliseinindref: I sort of suspect a hardware issue though. but good luck08:16
LjLxamox: type "dpkg -L <packagename>" to list the files belonging to a package, and find out which one is the executable binary file08:16
taliseini'm off to class, good luck everyone08:16
LjLxamox: then "man <filename>" on that file to get help on syntax08:16
sparkleytonekjm: connecting to an ubuntu SMB share using OS X as client?08:17
indreftalisein, Well, if it worked under windows a week ago, why would it suddenly break?08:17
optimusprime_when's EdgyEft released?08:17
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ladydoorhey, does anybody know whether there's some way to somehow, like, tell xubuntu to depend on (for example) mutt instead of thunderbird? i'd like to uninstall a lot of programs i never use and don't want to re-uninstall them after next time i distupgrade08:17
jackedhi folks: how do I find out what files were used/are being used in a running gui-based application?  (gnome windows manager, edgy)08:18
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taliseinindref: I forgot about that ;)08:18
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indreftalisein, Uh huh :D08:19
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pike_jacked: like lsof | grep gnome or something?08:19
taliseinladydoor: update-alternatives08:19
taliseinread the man page. i'm out08:19
andyrossQuick question for all: is there a current date for the final Edgy release?08:19
ladydoortalisein: thanks08:19
jackedsorry for the awkward question.  oi.08:19
jonah1980_2andyross, 26th of this month08:19
jackedpike_: perhaps lsof08:19
andyrossGreat, thakns.08:19
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dudecan someone help me install beryl?08:20
wedgeVmy fglrx.ko always gets deleted during boot08:20
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jackedpike_: I'm not sure, but I'll look at those suggestions08:20
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wedgeVwhat is deleting it08:20
pike_jacked: there are probably people here who could give a better answer but thats what i use08:20
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jackedpike_: can you describe your method a little more?  do you mind?08:21
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kismet_i need to find my Hard Drive's Geometry, is there a file or command that gives this info?08:21
caglar_where are the ubuntu fonts saved?08:21
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pike_jacked: well i normally just lsof to list used files then | grep for whatever process im interested in08:22
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indreftalisein, This Xorg.0.log just doesn't seem right.08:22
indreftalisein, It's like I have twelve touchpads or something.08:22
elvirolohi all08:23
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indreftalisein, Want me to pastebin it?08:23
indref!pastebin08:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:23
elvirolois this a place to discuss the beat version of edgy ?08:23
jjlowingcaglar_: may be hiden in your home folder .fonts08:23
indrefHmm, an alternative :D08:23
jackedpike_: interesting. I'm just getting introduced to these commands... (I've only been using linux for 9 months or so)  I'll give it a go though.  thank you08:23
ladydooractually, that doesn't seem to be what i'm looking for, but thank you. i'm looking for some way to make it to where uninstalling (say) mutt would uninstall xubuntu-desktop INSTEAD of having mozilla-thunderbird serving that same purpose. update-alternatives is for determining default applications run at various times.08:23
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indreftalisein, Check it out if you'd like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27018/08:24
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elviroloyes, no ?08:24
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pike_jacked: np the apropos command is handy for finding things it basically searches man pages so "apropos ftp" would list the relevant apps08:25
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LazyAngelit seems like it is totally impossible to syncronize calendar with nokia n80 (symbian s60 v3). Has anyone been able to syncronize a linux calendar with symbian?08:25
jackedpike_: excellent. thanks again08:25
M_A_KHow can I get my logitec webcam running under ubuntu 6.0.6 using KDE?08:26
caglar_is there a list which holds all the installed packages?08:26
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indrefcaglar_, Synaptic.08:26
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wedgeVmy fglrx.ko always gets deleted during boot08:27
gre1how do i set up ubunru for reciving ad-hoc internet?08:27
caglar_indref, lol, no08:28
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jjlowingcaglar_: no, this allow your to add your own font08:28
indrefcaglar_, "lol" yourself08:28
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TheGateKeeperladydoor: to the best of my knowledge if you install using aptitude I think you can then uninstall the package & it's dependencies, but neither synaptic or apt-get seem capable of doing that08:28
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wedgeVcaglar_: dpkg --list08:28
caglar_indref, I mean a list, not a program, lol.08:28
indrefcaglar_, The program can provide a list.08:28
caglar_wedgeV, is there a file which contains the programs? I would like to edit it.08:29
wedgeVno08:29
caglar_indref, the program uses a list08:29
umoI'm trying to get online with a rt61 wlan card but the make all function fails under driver compiling. Help?08:29
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xamoxwhy doesn't 7zip like me? I am have tried creating a tar/zip/7z in windows and then extract it in unzip. Tar cries, unzip cries and 7zip cries. So what is the deal?08:29
sureshotwhat is the channel name fur edgy08:29
caglar_wedgeV, how does dpkg know which package is already installed or not then?08:29
i4get2kubuntu08:29
TheGateKeeperladydoor: you could try uninstalling the package then using debophan but even then I wouldn't give much for your chances of being successfull08:29
ladydoorTheGateKeeper: ...ok--what i want to do is to NOT uninstall xubuntu-desktop if i uninstall useless graphical programs like mousepad, abiword, thurnderbird, etc.08:29
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wedgeV /usr/lib/dpkg08:29
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gre1how do i setup ad-hoc in ubuntu?08:30
sureshoti figured it out08:30
caglar_wedgeV, thats a directory08:30
M_A_KCan anybody help me get a logitech webcam up?08:30
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ladydoorTheGateKeeper: i figured it could potentially be possible to work that by instead having them depend on something else that i actually use, like mutt, LaTex, emacs, etc.08:30
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gre1anyone..?08:31
ladydoorTheGateKeeper: but thanks anyway08:31
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ubutomhow can i restart my soundserver? something is blocking the soundcard...08:31
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wedgeVcaglar_: hmm, not sure08:32
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TheGateKeeperladydoor: I've been looking for a role-back system, but haven't really found anything I am confident in using08:32
pike_caglar_: thats a good question maybe /var/lib/dpkg/  i know there is a available file there ..08:32
TheGateKeeperdevs seem reluctant to sort this out :-(08:33
ladydoorTheGateKeeper: lol...maybe i should just learn to package stuff and make an UnBuntu desktop that depends on all the non-eyecandiful apps. and what's that that you're looking for?08:33
jackedpike_: lsof / grep worked like gangbusters.  thanks!08:33
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gre1how do i setup ad-hoc in ubuntu?08:34
shwag_The newer kernel in edgy doesnt have any of my network drivers like dapper has. Not sure who to talk to about this, or what the fix is.08:34
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ladydoorshwag_: #ubuntu+108:34
pike_caglar_: i think the status file under /var/lib/dpkg08:34
pike_jacked: np08:35
TheGateKeeperladydoor: I was looking for a nice way back when the devs muck up & let a bad update through, but it would come in handy when installing software that you are not 100% sure you want to keep08:35
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turnipHi, "nano" (the editor) always seems to interpret the "backspace" key as a "delete" key. This has only happened since Dapper. Does anyone know about this? Cheers08:35
ladydoorTheGateKeeper: ah, i see. yeah, i dunno08:35
wedgeVwhy does my fglrx.ko gets deleted on every boot08:35
TheGateKeeperladydoor: I suspect gentoo is better at this08:35
zardinukturnip: I just found something about that, hold on08:35
ladydoorTheGateKeeper: i wouldn't know...ubuntu's harder to install, though08:35
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ladydoor*gentoo is, i mean08:35
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i4get2lol was getting ready to say :)08:36
TheGateKeeperladydoor: not harder, just looooooooonger :-)08:36
salestodo555what i need to do if i have read this: " OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' "??? 2 days ago it goes perfectly!08:36
gre1can anyone help me?08:37
zardinukturnip: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/BackspaceKey08:37
pike_turnip: maybe sudo nano /etc/nanorc and look for the set rebinddelete that is commented out but i dont use nano08:37
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joanhola necesito ayuda para instalar rar en ubuntu08:38
joansoy novato08:38
ladydoor!es08:38
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:38
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joanjoin #apesol08:38
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joan#ubuntu-es08:39
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gre1<sigh>08:39
pike_joan: /join channel08:39
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Johnny__ello all08:40
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ubuntuhey i need help figureing out how to install ubuntu on my system intead of running it from a cd evry time08:40
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turnippike_: thanks so much! You have no idea how much that has bothered me08:41
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highvoltageubuntu: double click on the 'install' icon on the desktop (if it's 6.06)08:41
Johnny__run disc run the install exe on desktop08:41
cryptoniccan anyone help me, installation of ubuntu fails when loading and the error says try noapic, how do i use noapic and does anyone know what causes the problem?08:41
cypher1_i am having problems (no sound) with my usb headphone.. can anyone help ?08:41
niekieubuntu, do you have another OS installed and you want to keep it on?08:41
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ubuntui had a crappy one on my computer that just crashed08:43
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ubuntui dont see install exe08:43
elfrangeranyone up for helping me get proftp up and running?08:43
niekieubuntu, there is no install exe.08:43
ubuntuit sais cdrom and there are like 6 things with install08:43
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Zaggynlhmm KDED seems to interfere with k3b, how do I disable KDED?08:43
niekieubuntu, are you on the 6.06 live CD now?08:43
Johnny__the install icon*08:43
TheGateKeeperladydoor: if you have been using linux for a while & like XFce I would seriously think about giving arch linux a try, I just asked if it was possible to uinstall packages & their dependencies & the guy who maintains it says yes08:43
cypher1_got it working :)08:43
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ladydoorTheGateKeeper: actually, i don't use xfce--it's just that xubuntu-desktop was the most minimal type of *buntu short of the server. but thanks08:44
niekieubuntu: If so, click the "Install" icon on the desktop, and follow the instructions, be aware that the default install erases ALL data from your PC.08:44
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ladydoorTheGateKeeper: i like ubuntu, i just don't like all of the extra stuff that comes with it. *shrug*08:44
cryptoniccan anyone help me, installation of ubuntu fails when loading and the error says try noapic, how do i use noapic and does anyone know what causes the problem?08:45
TheGateKeeperladydoor: :-)08:45
ubuntuinitrd.gz?08:45
jackedcryptonic: what system are you using?  it's not a macbook, by chance, is it?08:45
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cryptonicits an amd 64bit dual core system08:46
Johnny__ok if anyone can help i disabled all interactive editing control for GRUB menu from going by the tuturial " How to disable all interactive editing control for GRUB menu" and sret my password correct then i rebooted... At the grub menu i pressed P to get the passwrod login and so i put the password that i created for the grub menu but it is stating incorrect password and now i am locked out...08:46
Johnny__...of the ubuntu... any help?08:46
salestodo555what i need to do if i have read this: " OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' "??? 2 days ago it goes perfectly!08:46
elfrangerthis is funny... why doesn't proftpd start when I have set the servertype to inetd? What am I missing? If I set it to standalone, I am able to start it manually...08:46
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niekieubuntu, err.. no.08:47
ladydoorTheGateKeeper: ach well. i'll just uninstall them all now and then re-uninstall them after my next dist-upgrade08:47
elfrangeror, not funny... strange08:47
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niekieubuntu, if you boot the Ubuntu 6.06 disk, it should have one Install icon on the desktop by default.08:47
elfrangerso, you're saying I made a configural error? Well, that might be... Care to assist me?08:47
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ubuntuthere isnt an install icon on the desktop08:47
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_hAPPY_mAJAsomeone familiar to Rosegarden?08:47
niekieIf you're looking at initrd.gz, you're looking at the wrong place.08:47
pike_cryptonic: you should just be able to add that to the boot options when grub loads noapic i would think.  btw i would recommend the i386 install then just apt-get a k7 kernel08:47
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elfrangeroh well, I'll just have to figure it out myself I guess08:48
niekieubuntu, hmm.. there should be, on the 6.06 live CD at least.08:48
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indrefubuntu, Are you booting to the disk?08:48
elfrangerno, no its not a problem08:48
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ubuntuim using the live cd08:48
ZemylaHmm.  I need the OpenSSL header files.08:48
ubuntuand im not seeing anything08:48
gre1how do i setup ubuntu for ad-hoc?08:48
indrefubuntu, Boot to it, then then link is on the desktop08:48
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niekieindref, he's stating that he IS booting to it, but not seeing the install icon. =\08:49
cryptonicwell i get as far as selecting the install, run ubuntu and then an error comes up08:49
ubuntuwould that be in the cd rom folder?08:49
jackedcryptonic: I have that problem with my macbook. the fix that has partially worked for me is to change my lilo.conf file to include append="lpj=8000000"   (changing a frequency essentially -- don't ask me to explain b/c I don't understand)08:49
niekieubuntu, are you sure you're using 6.06?08:49
niekieAs in, Ubuntu Dapper Drake?08:49
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cryptonici saw nowhere where i could type a command to include noapic08:49
indrefniekie, How is that possible.08:49
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ubuntubreezy badger08:49
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niekieindref, I have no idea.08:49
niekieubuntu, ah..08:49
pike_cryptonic: there should be a key to press to enter options for each selection08:49
indrefniekie, I think it's be PEBKAC problem08:49
pike_cryptonic: a F6 or something key08:50
niekieWell, you can't install from the live CD with Breezy Badger.08:50
Johnny__anyway to get around the gruib menu to login into ubuntu?08:50
niekieindref, heh.08:50
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elfrangerwhere do I set that ftp should start when servertype is set to inetd? I know I had to uncomment a line in some file under slackware...08:50
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elfrangerubuntu is somewhat different08:50
hierba13need assistance.  xinetd not able to read /etc/protocols.  nothing in xinetd loads...08:50
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cryptonicthe more options selection or f6 or something doesnt seem to work correctly08:50
niekieindref, I don't really care, people can learn from mistakes. :)08:50
elfrangerplease, either give me a hint or tell me to shut up and I'll give up and install windows...08:50
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jackedJohnny__: I believe you have to take off the quiet option in your grub config file08:51
cryptonicas in it doesnt show me more options08:51
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pike_cryptonic: using the 64bit cd?08:51
kmaynardelfranger, what ftp server?08:51
niekieubuntu, you'll need Ubuntu 6.06 if you want to be able to install from the live CD.08:51
elfrangerproftpd08:51
indrefniekie, I only care when people don't learn from mistakes :)08:51
Paddy_EIREwould this be the most up-to-date/stable kernal im using "2.6.15-27-k7"08:51
cryptonicjust jiberish text bellow the other selections08:51
elfrangerkmaynard: proftpd08:51
ubuntuokay08:51
niekieubuntu, or, if you want to use Breezy Badger, you'll need to download a seperate install CD.08:51
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Johnny__jacked how do i access the quiet option?08:51
jorisHow do i make skype start-up automatically when i start my computer08:51
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niekieThough I can highly recommend Dapper Drake, as it is the latest stable release.08:51
pike_cryptonic: define jibberish08:52
elfrangerjoris: isn't it in the settings or preferences or options somewherE?08:52
cryptoniciv downloaded two different iso's from two different places and yet the error is in both, cd and dvd08:52
indrefubuntu, I recommend you download the latest LiveCD and install from that.08:52
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eXistenZWhat is the best way to get vim7 on ubuntu dapper?08:52
Paddy_EIREjoris: System > Preferences > sessions08:52
jorismaybe but where....08:52
cryptonicas in something like (234234kdshd12321)08:52
jorisok cool thanks08:52
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Paddy_EIREjoris: then choose startup programs08:52
cryptonicthats not what it said08:52
Johnny__jacked i mean how do i access the grub config file08:52
lopawhere would I find ssh?08:52
jackedum... I'm not sure where the grub config file is located... try /boot... try /etc... (I'm sure somebody here knows)... when you find it, type sudo gedit /path/to/config/file08:52
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elfrangerjoris: well, I'd just go through all settings.. It is most likely very informative text on the selection box...08:52
cryptonici didnt take that part down08:52
pike_cryptonic: my only suggestion would be to download the i386 and not the 64bit installer08:52
niekieubuntu, in the latest edition, the live and install CD are combined :)08:52
lopassh isnt in init.d08:52
pike_cryptonic: ah well that really is jibberish :)08:52
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salestodo555how to reinstall opengl drivers???08:53
niekieNot on Breezy Badger though.08:53
indrefniekie, Hmm, we tried.08:53
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FunnyMan3595Anybody else have the screensaver activate despite keyboard input?  It's really annoying.08:53
pike_lopa: sudo apt-get install openssh-server no server apps only client ones on default install08:53
jonah1980_2can anyone help, my dad is on skype to me and he's useless on computers but i installed him ubuntu ages ago. but it seems all his desktop icons have dissapeared! but they're there if you go through file structure to desktop folder08:53
lopaI have it08:54
joristhanks for the assistance im gonne try now...08:54
lopaI just dont know where08:54
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cryptonicwell i remember reading some time ago not to burn the .iso's using nero but i dismissesd this as being bull, somthing about it not writing the linux .iso's correctly08:54
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cryptoniccould this be a contributing factor?08:54
Paddy_EIREwhere would be a good resource for individual sound files, Im trying to associate a sound to evolution mail when new mail arrives08:54
FunnyMan3595crypto: Worked just fine for me.08:54
cryptonicso nope :(08:54
der0bcryptonic: I never had a problem with nero and Linux isos08:54
FunnyMan3595crypto: If you're really worried, run the cd check.08:55
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vivi_hello08:55
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FunnyMan3595crypto: CDs do occasionally burn wrong.08:55
lopaSO?08:55
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cryptonici cant, has the same error as when i try to install or run08:55
cryptonicsame for safe graphics so on so fourth08:55
xamoxhow can I download an entire directory with ftp from console? I have tried mget but that doesn't seem to work08:55
der0bxamox: have you tried wget?08:56
jackedgotta run...08:56
xamoxder0b:  will wget connect to ftp?08:56
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der0byep!  it's common to mirror sites with it08:56
lopaany ideas?08:56
der0bxamox: you'll need to read the man for the correct command line options though08:56
vivi_tud valaki ms is rajtam kvl magyarul08:56
xamoxder0b:  alright, thx08:57
vivi_?08:57
cryptonicthis is the error i get " Kernel Panic - not syncing : IO - APIC + timer doesnt work ! Try using the 'noapic ' kernel parameter08:57
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vivi_i from in hungary08:57
Zaggynltry #ubuntu-hu08:57
FunnyMan3595*scratches his head*  I just can't figure out why the screensaver starts when I'm typing.  As soon as it's finished fading out, a keystroke will wake it up.08:57
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epimerhi guys08:58
vivi_hi08:58
indrefvivi_, #ubuntu-hu08:59
epimeri need to boot to a command prompt, so i can install the nVidia beta drivers from their script. how do i do that?08:59
epimer(it won't run with an existing X session running)08:59
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vivi_ha08:59
indrefepimer, There is another way, actually.08:59
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pike_epimer: alt-ctrl-f1 then login then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:59
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kromeldang09:00
kromelpike beat me to it09:00
indrefepimer, What pike_  said, but there is another way to get the drivers.09:00
ochosii have a question about ssh-x-server forwarding server-configuration09:00
pike_ochosi: ?09:00
ochosii don't have x-server running on my server, but xlibs installed09:00
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ochosii can connect to the server with the -X or -Y option09:01
crochatI have a question: the kernel modules "r1000" and "ipw3945" (probably there are others in the same case) exist in the linux-image-2.6.15-27 Ubuntu package, but when I compile my own kernel from the 2.6.18 sources, it seems those modules don't exist anymore !!! Why ??09:01
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ochosiwithout error msg, but when i try to run e.g. xterm it says "DISPLAY not set"09:01
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vivi_Where are you from?????????09:02
ZaggynlI'm from Holland myself09:02
indrefvivi_, Earth, where are you from.09:02
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deamoni have upgrade my distro ubuntu to edgy and i have this error /usr/bin/eciadsl-start: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected09:02
deamon ?? why tnx !!09:02
Ninja562Holland is cool..he he09:02
vivi_:)09:03
Zaggynl<:09:03
chuckypdeamon, edgy support is in #ubuntu+109:03
ochosipike_ any idea?09:03
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vivi_i from hungary09:03
indrefvivi_, We know.09:03
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deamontnx !!09:03
deamonchuckyp!09:03
ochosivivi_jo estet kivanok09:03
vivi_:)09:03
vivi_neked is jo estt09:04
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elfrangerhow do I enable site-to-site transfer in proftpd?09:04
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vivi_szia09:04
basschimpheh, sorry guys09:04
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b_d_pchuckyp: dapper support is ok here?09:04
ochosiszia09:04
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basschimpi hit ctrl+alt+F1 before reading the whole command...could someone please paste the previous advice?09:04
chuckypb_d_p, yes09:04
basschimpwait - i was connected as epimer09:05
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epimerlike so109:05
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tuxtuxciao a tutti09:05
\Dj\Krit\is there an irc channel for ISPConfig or can someone here help me, i'm looking to completely uninstall it09:05
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pike_ochosi: dont have any experience doing that without x server running sorry09:05
vivi_ochosi do you speak english09:05
vivi_?09:05
indrefepimer, You can use Synaptic to install nVidia drivers09:05
Shadow420yes09:05
WazmHi09:05
epimereven the beta ones?09:05
vivi_I sorry09:05
ochosipike_ ok thanks09:05
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vivi_Do you speak hungary ochosi??09:06
ochosivivi_ obviously (at least i seem to write in english)09:06
FunnyMan3595I've got a problem with my computer sometimes hanging indefinitely on shutdown.  It goes completely unresponsive, but never finishes the shudown.  Where should I look after a hard reboot to try and diagnose it?09:06
ochosivivi_ no, i don't speak magyar09:06
crochatWhere can I see the list of "specialy" added modules, like "r1000" or "ipw3945" in the Ubuntu kernels ?09:06
b_d_pcool. i'd like to use lcdproc 0.5 cos it has support for my iR+LCD without needing a patch. 0.5 is in breezy, im using dapper which only has 0.4.5... what are my options?09:06
Wazmthat's a secret09:06
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vivi_:D09:06
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Shadow420I have a question09:06
vivi_You are very hony!:D09:06
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FunnyMan3595Shadow: I have an answer, but they probably don't match.09:07
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indrefvivi_, wtf?09:07
chuckypShadow420, there is no afterlife09:07
epimerso how do i get to a command line without an X session running?09:07
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indrefShadow420, No god either, sorry to say.09:07
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chuckypepimer, well if X isn't running then you are at a virtual terminal09:08
Shadow420how can I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator Kegs 0.9109:08
vivi_What?09:08
cryptonicfound out its something to do with socket am2 :(09:08
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chuckypepimer, if not hit ctrl+alt+f109:08
ltersanyone here try a v40z sun fire box with ubuntu?09:08
FunnyMan3595Shadow: You're more likely to get help if you actually *ask* your question instead of waiting for us to retrieve it via telepathy.09:08
indrefepimer, Just a sec, I'll look it up :)09:08
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BoyBachHello, I am trying to update evolution to 2.8.1 how do I install it.09:08
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epimerchuckyp, have done, but running the script still tells me i have an X server running09:08
epimerindref, ty09:08
Shadow420how can I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator Kegs 0.91?09:09
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indrefepimer, Got it, just a sec.09:09
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indrefepimer, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop09:09
jimdanielsmy apt-get is completly unusuable since i deleted the folder of my vmware-player. each try to install, reinstall or remove any program ends up in an error from vmware. how can i gell apt-get that this application is removed?09:09
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Seveasnixternal, you lousy b*tard 09:10
indrefepimer, Write that one down, it's an important one.09:10
jimdaniels*get sorry09:10
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epimerindref, ty! i'll write it down before hitting ctrl-alt-F1 this time :)09:10
FunnyMan3595jim: I think you mean s/gell/tell09:10
ltersjimdaniels: sudo dpkg --force-all --purge vmware-player09:10
jimdanielslters: thanks i will try that09:11
vivi_what?09:11
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chuckypjimdaniels, which application do you need to remove?09:11
Homeris there a difference between "sudo -i" and "sudo bash"09:11
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SeveasHomer, quite09:11
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Sp4rKYhi09:11
Homerwhat09:11
jimdanielschuckyp: vmware-player (the package appears as installed in synaptic and i can't remove it)09:11
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Seveassudo bash is unsafe09:12
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SB|nblracerhello09:12
Seveasit doesn't reset eg $HOME09:12
Homeroh09:12
chuckypjimdaniels, did you try lters instructions?09:12
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b_d_plcdproc 0.5 is in breezy, dapper respository has 0.4.5... what are my options for getting the newer package installed?09:12
Sp4rKYplease, does exists a software which can show me the bandwith used for each vhosts on a computer (munin don't do this)09:12
vivi_i favourite color the black, write and red09:12
Sp4rKYplease, does exists a software which can show me the bandwith used for each vhosts on a computer (munin don't do this)09:12
jimdanielslters: wait please i'm pasting the output09:12
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ltersSp4rKY: sudo apt-get install iptraf09:12
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vivi_What you favourit color?09:13
Chm0dwoot xp in vmware is now installed09:13
jimdanielslters: chuckyp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27019/09:13
Sp4rKYlters: and it crerate a picture ?09:13
ltersah, no09:13
ltersit will show it live tho09:13
_hAPPY_mAJAanyone who knows rosegarden?09:13
SB|nblracerwhy dose Ubuntu not mount all of my drives09:13
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vivi_na09:14
vivi_szia09:14
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vivi_jo ejszakat kivanok09:14
pike_SB|nblracer: what kind of drives?09:14
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ltersjimdaniels: rm -rf /etc/vmware09:14
SB|nblracerthere ide HDD pike_09:14
vivi_good bay!= viszlt09:15
pike_SB|nblracer: there must be an entry in /etc/fstab    sudo gedit /etc/fstab09:15
vivi_hi09:15
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marshallSB|nblracer, which drives isnt it mounting?09:15
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J03anyone familiar with getting SWAT set up?09:15
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SB|nblracerwill look at it pike_09:15
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jimdanielslters: after rm -rf /etc/vmware,  dpkg --force-all --purge vmware-player, still gives the same output as i posted before.09:15
pike_SB|nblracer: entry will vary by filesystem09:15
Sp4rKYlters: mmhhh, iptraf isn't what i want. I want something like mrtg or munin, but which can show the bandwith used for each vhost09:15
Shadow420how do I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator xkegs09:16
vivi_what you favourite animals????????????????????????????????????09:16
pontusenim looking for a good program to print my covers(for DVDs) with. Anyone has any good tip=09:16
pontusen?09:16
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jimdanielsthe eft09:16
suspectkbossI've been trying to use wine to install itunes, but no luck. "QuickTime installation has failed" is all I get. Any suggestions?09:16
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chuckypsuspectkboss, have you checked wine's appdb?09:17
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ltersjimdaniels: do the rm first.09:17
suspectkbossyeah09:17
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vivi_good night09:17
jimdanielslters: i did09:17
pike_suspectkboss: install vmware server and run xp. personally im too lazy to use wine..09:17
Shadow420heh I use a windows box to run windows stuff09:17
chuckypsuspectkboss, they usually have installation tips and sugestions there.  And especially important whether or not the app actually works with wine.09:17
suspectkbossthey only have itunes 6.something, and i cant find the binary for that anywhre09:17
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chuckyppike_, wine is much easier than installing xp09:17
vivi_good night everybodi09:17
ltersjimdaniels: is that folder gone? if so you will get a different error msg.09:17
Shadow420actually installing XP is easy09:18
chuckypsuspectkboss, what version are you trying to install?09:18
jimdanielslters: bash: cd: /etc/vmware: No such file or directory09:18
jimdanielslters: so it definetly is gone09:18
suspectkbossitunes 709:18
Ninja562is Dapper last stable?09:18
jimdanielslters: and i get the same error09:18
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Shadow420??09:18
pike_chuckyp: ill allow that my ignorance is probably the biggest obstacle but still like i said im lazy09:18
Shadow420how do I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator xkegs 0.91?09:18
SB|nblracerpike_ i got a stupid question, why would i want a different acccess point for a HDD09:19
Heldonbesides gaim, is there another messenger system out there that groups all IM's together?09:19
chuckypsuspectkboss, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=577409:19
ltersHeldon: kopete09:19
chuckyppike_, the lazy way would be to use wine09:19
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suspectkbossohh09:19
suspectkbossstupid me09:19
j00barhowdy -- running the ubuntu live CD with three SCSI disks configured for RAID, on boot when trying to start EVMS, the system halts with "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08069d70" -- is there any way to prevent evms from starting from the live CD?09:19
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pike_SB|nblracer: define access point for me.  you mean mount point?09:19
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pontusenim looking for a good program to print my covers(for DVDs) with. Anyone has any good tip?09:20
suspectkbossso no luck, huh?09:20
jimdanielslters: here i updated the past so you can make sure i did it right ( but i think so ) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27020/09:20
nedddddcan i mount a windows partition with a live cd??09:20
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SB|nblraceryes mount09:20
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SB|nblracersorry a linux n00b09:20
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bobbydhi09:20
bobbydis it possible to disable specific plugins in firefox?09:21
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suspectkbossall i use itunes for is to listen to the radios. any help importing the radio station list into amarok or rhythmbox?09:21
lterspontusen: sudo apt-cache search cd covers09:21
NinnghizidhaHello. Anybody knows about Nvidia-videodrivers on ubuntu-x64?09:21
BoyBachwhere is a good place to extract files for installation09:21
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jimdanielsanybody knows how i can get rid of my destroyed vmware-player package? these tries here failed http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27020/09:21
ltersBoyBach: /usr/src09:21
BoyBachthanks.09:22
pike_SB|nblracer: each partition needs to be mounted you mount them typically to a directory so i might do "sudo mkdir /media/hda1" then if my partition was ntfs i might do sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 its very simple but a little intimidating at first09:22
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jimdanielspontusen: koverartist09:22
Shadow420how do I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator xkegs 0.91 in linux09:22
chuckypBoyBach, depends on what you mean source files?09:22
chuckypShadow420, follow their instructions09:23
jimdanielslters: you seen the paste? removing the vmware folder didn't change anything ( i think the reason is that it was allready removed)09:23
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Shadow420I have and limits what i need to do09:23
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ltersShadow420: http://www.google.com/search?q=Apple+IIgs+Emulator+gcc&btnG=Search09:23
BoyBachI want to install evolution I have downloaded the tar file and I want to extract it somewhere while I install it.09:23
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Shadow420it's let me puzzled09:23
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jimdanielsBoyBach: you can extract files wherever you want. evolution is allready integrated in ubuntu09:24
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SB|nblracerbut dose it mater where you mount them too?, i was gooing to "/" . why would i want to mount a drive in a folder of another drive?09:24
Jowianyone's got an intel mac mini and has sound working (dapper)?09:24
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BoyBachi am on 2.6 there is a more update one according to evolution site.09:25
Ninja562can anyone suggest video conferencing software?09:25
luis_lopezHi, someone that has been able to setup ddclient to work with xname.org?09:25
eugmanWhat packages do I need to make totem or mplayer plat a mov file?09:25
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jimdanielsBoyBach: well wait until synaptic has it09:25
BoyBachI thought there might be a general folder that can be used for that sort of thing09:25
Jowiluis_lopez, only tried with dyn-dns09:25
jimdanielsBoyBach: you can create one if you like09:25
BoyBachok, thanks why is it more secur then09:26
pike_SB|nblracer: shouldnt matter as long as the mount point isnt used by something else like / is the mount point for ubuntus primary partition09:26
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BoyBach?09:26
pike_SB|nblracer: for an automatic solution see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions09:26
jimdanielsBoyBach: sudo mkdir /path/of/your/destinated/new/temp/dir09:26
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jimdanielslters: you know anything else i can try?09:26
BoyBachwhy sudo ?09:26
jimdanielstry it without09:27
ltersjimdaniels: dpkg -L <pckname> should show u the files included. You need to find the script that is failing. and fix it.09:27
SB|nblracerpike_ thanks for the link09:27
jmitchjIs there a web site where all ubuntu terminal commands are listed?09:27
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jimdanielslters: i think when i have all files back... this won't get me any further because when they were existing, apt-get did allready crash into an error after running the vmware configuration script (each time i tried any operation) that's why i finnally removed the folder. so isn't there any other way to delete it?09:29
kismet_jmitchj - this could work for you: http://ss64.com/bash/index.html09:29
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suspectkbosshow do i play a .pls radio stream in rhythmbox? do i need a gstreamer plugin?09:29
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jmitchjkismet_: Thanks09:30
ltersjimdaniels: it is complaining about /etc/init.d/vmware-player , so get rid of that.09:30
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jimdanielssuspectkboss: i think .pls are winamp playlists aren't they?09:30
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eugmanjmitch, would something listing lunux terminal commands in general be useful?09:31
jimdanielslters: sudo rm -r /etc/init.d/vmware-player ?09:31
eugmanwhoops nvm09:31
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jmitchjkismet_: What command can I use to list the system log?09:31
ltersjimdaniels: did you do the dpkg -L vmware-player ?09:31
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jimdanielslters: no only the sudo rm -r /etc/init.d/vmware-player09:32
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Ninja562how do you install a second monitor?09:32
jimdanielsand it seems to work now!09:32
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jimdanielslters: the synaptic update seems to run just fine09:32
LuakagonSomething's got my audio; how do I get it loose so I can listen to my favorite internet radio?09:32
suspectkbossyeah09:32
jimdanielslters: i will try to remove packages after it09:32
suspectkbossbut they're just mp3 streams09:32
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suspectkbossso rhythmbox should play them09:32
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jimdanielslters: oh id made the updates but crashed in the vm error at the ned again09:33
Bensr20detHow do I restart x-server??09:33
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simtowerhello09:33
simtowerhow can i get on the internet?09:33
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nolimitsoyaBensr20det, ctrl+alt+backspace09:34
crochatBensr20det: CTRL-ALT-Backspace ;-)09:34
nolimitsoyasimtower, you are :)09:34
Bensr20detthanks09:34
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simtoweri mean, get on, the World Wide Web09:34
nolimitsoyastart firefox09:34
pike_Ninja562: its not what i use but see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo09:34
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simtoweroh it is firefox for WWW?09:34
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nolimitsoyasimtower, yes09:34
simtowerthx09:34
kismet_jmitchj: look into 'cat', 'more', and 'less'09:34
alex_1234Can some one give me some help.. My computer will not Lock.09:35
Chamucohi I did a recent install and I have a program that needs progsreiserfs. I search for that rpm and found libreiserfs-progs. In it's description mentions progsreiserfs, but I am not sure if it is included on libreiserfs-progs, anyone knows?09:35
nolimitsoyaalex_1234, is screensaverdaemon running?09:35
simtoweralex_1234, it is bad when a computer locks up you should be happy09:35
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nolimitsoyaChamuco, you shouldnt install any rpm:s at all09:35
alex_1234<nolimitsoya> how do i check09:35
nolimitsoyaubuntu is debianbased, hence debpackages09:35
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nolimitsoyaalex_1234, does your screensaver work? :)09:36
jimdanielslters: oh man.. when i try to install a pack synaptic tries to fix the vmware first and makes the error. mean i couldn't care less if i still could install things but this error prevents me from doing anything but updates09:36
pike_Chamuco: you should be able to install that through synaptic im showing it in main and universe09:36
alex_1234yah09:36
ltersjimdaniels: is there a new update?09:36
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Jowicrimsun, I read here http://desrt.mcmaster.ca/macbook.xhtml that a sound patch for dapper and intel mac mini was added to dapper. do you happen to know if 2.6.15-25-686 have it included?09:36
nolimitsoyaalex_1234, then how, exactly, are you trying to lock the screen then?09:36
variantjimdaniels: remove vmware and resinstall it09:37
jimdanielslters: i think they were a few days old because befor ei removed this folder you said before i could not do updates09:37
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jimdanielsvariant: i can't remove a pacl09:37
Chamucobut does libreiserfs-progs contain progsreiserfs or would it be a different deb package?09:37
alex_1234nolimitsoya through the dialogue from the shutdown menu or the lock computer short-cut icon09:37
jimdanielslters: dpkg -L vmware-player   what do i have to do with this list`?09:37
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lFkecan k3b burn .cue/.bin ?09:37
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Zaggynlyap09:37
bulmeram in the process of installation(multi-os multi-boot), how do I get the existing GRUB to then have an entry for Ubuntu?09:38
variantjimdaniels: use apt-get remove vmware09:38
lFkeZaggynl: was that for me?09:38
nolimitsoyaalex_1234, i have no idea then :)09:38
Zaggynlkiso can convert every image file to iso I think though09:38
ZaggynllFke, yup :)09:38
pike_Chamuco: well in the repo they are seperate debs09:38
lFkeZaggynl: where do you go to?09:38
ZaggynllFke, you mean?09:38
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lFkeZaggynl: im trying to burn .cue/.bin09:38
Chamucopike_: so should I install both?09:38
nolimitsoyajimdaniels, tried doing a dist-upgrade?09:39
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ZaggynllFke, lemme try that09:39
jimdanielsnolimitsoya: yes somebody else told me to09:39
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pike_Chamuco: id install the progreiserfs through synaptic and if it needs anything else it will install that as well automatically09:39
jimdanielsi think sudo apt-get remove worked now after removing the folder init something09:39
jimdanielswait09:39
alex_1234nolimitsoya -- thanks.. i just can't figure otu what caused it b/c it just sudden;y stoped working.. i thought maybe the x-server was crashing so then i put it as a black screen saver .. the screen saver goes on.. but its not locked and it is check on the screen-saver propertieds dialouge09:40
pike_!iso > Zaggynl09:40
Chamucoalright I'll give it a try thanks!09:40
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nolimitsoyaalex_1234, done any updates recently?09:40
ZaggynllFke, okay ,it seems k3b can only burn iso files, get kiso, and use that to convert .bin to .iso09:40
nolimitsoyaChamuco, check what packages are suggested for that package :)09:40
nolimitsoyaZaggynl, k3b can burn just about any format :)09:41
alex_1234yah but none for the x-server...09:41
nolimitsoyaalex_1234, drivers, perhaps?09:41
Zaggynlit can?09:41
lFkenolimitsoya: can it burn .cue/.bin?09:41
ZaggynlI'm confused now, it only lists .iso at filters09:41
jeroen__Hi everyone i hope someone can help me.. i cant change my resolution of my monitor anymore:(  it stays big the resolution is on 640x480 60 htz cant be changed09:41
nolimitsoyalFke, yes09:41
lFkenolimitsoya: where do you go to?09:42
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LuakagonCan someone help me?  My movie isn't playing audio and I want to determine whether or not it's because there's no audior or there's some software issue...09:42
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pike_!fixres > jeroen__09:42
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nolimitsoyajeroen__, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- type into a terminal09:42
alex_1234<nolimitsoya> what kind and how would i check09:42
chuckypLuakagon, well is your audio working with other apps?09:42
jimdanielslters: yes it works again. removing the things you told me did the thing i guess09:42
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ClayGanyone know how I can rotate my GMDlogin and splash screens ?09:42
alex_1234<nolimitsoya> there were none that i recalled09:42
Luakagonchuckyp, Yes.09:42
nolimitsoyaalex_1234, did you install any driverupdates :)09:42
ClayGautomatically?09:42
jimdanielslters: thanks a lot for you help. i tried this for 3 days09:42
chuckypLuakagon, what type of file?09:43
nolimitsoyalFke, burn cd image09:43
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Luakagonchuckyp, .mp409:43
Luakagonchuckyp, playing in xine09:43
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chuckypLuakagon, do you have the codecs installed?09:43
jimdanielswhat was the command line irc?09:43
jimdanielspack09:43
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alex_1234<nolimitsoya> not recently09:43
Luakagonchuckyp, well it's playing.  I can only assumi I do09:43
ladydoorjimdaniels: there are many terminal-based irc clients, such as irssi and bitchx09:43
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lFkenolimitsoya: i only see ".ISO"09:43
jimdanielsi will try bitchx. thank you09:43
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lFkenolimitsoya: im sayin, on DVD, not on CD09:44
chuckypLuakagon, well if you have certain codecs missing you will have issues like you are experiencing.  But as far as determining which audio stream is encoded with the movie I wouldn't know where to begin.   But I would check out the restricted formats page and make sure you have the proper codec first.09:44
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chuckyp!tell Luakagon about codec09:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:44
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Luakagonchuckyp, thanks! :D ok bye off hunting codecs09:44
chuckyp!tell Luakagon about codecs09:44
nolimitsoyalFke, ok, cant help you then :)09:44
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nolimitsoyacd is fine though09:45
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chuckypLuakagon, ubotu should send you the webpage you need.09:45
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jimdanielsterminhello?09:45
chuckypgnomefrelk lol09:45
nolimitsoyajimdanielstermin :)09:45
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chuckypgnomefreak, you know what my video problems boiled down to?   Video card memory that went all goofy on me was causing my lockups not updates09:45
Wazmyo09:46
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chuckypjimdanielstermin, hello09:46
gnomefreakchuckyp: oh ok09:46
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jimdanielsterminhow can i connect / disconnect in bitchx?09:46
zOrKhi there, I've got a little trouble09:46
Wazmok09:46
chuckypgnomefreak, contacted evga have to stop being lazy and send them my borked card.09:46
ClayGanyone know how I can rotate my GMDlogin and splash screens ?09:46
ClayGanyone know how I can rotate my GMDlogin and splash screens ?09:46
ladydoor!repeat09:46
ClayGsorry aboutr the double post09:46
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:46
nolimitsoyaClayG, rotate?09:46
chuckyp!tell z0rk about ask09:47
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drezhadoes anyone know a decent program that rip ogg vorbis files and I can change the bitrate?09:47
zOrKI've fixed my broadcom Wireless card, (which seemed to be bugged), and everytime I want to use it I need to "modprobe ndiswrapper" . how  can I make it automatic?09:47
ClayGnolimitsoya, yeah like each time you turn your computyer on there is a differnt theme09:47
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jimdanielstermin*waves* i'm jimdaniels's bitchx clone09:47
zOrKI've fixed my broadcom Wireless card, (which seemed to be bugged), and everytime I want to use it I need to "modprobe ndiswrapper" . how  can I make it automatic to connect at startup?09:47
alex_1234!patience09:47
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:47
drezhasoundjuicer doesn't seem to allow me to change the bitrate09:47
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nolimitsoyaClayG, go into 'login windows' in system meny09:47
nolimitsoya*menu09:47
jimdanielsterminladydoor: thx bitchx is nice09:48
ClayGnolimitsoya, ok im there09:48
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nolimitsoyaClayG -> theme: random from selectes09:48
nolimitsoya*selected09:48
ladydoorjimdanielstermin: np09:48
nolimitsoyaselect those you want to rotate09:48
chuckypzOrK, you need to add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules09:48
ClayGnolimitsoya, NICE, thanks09:48
nolimitsoyanp :)09:49
zOrKchuckyp: ok, how can I do it ?, is there any doc?09:49
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zOrKor just add the line ndiswrapper to /etc/modules?09:49
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zOrKthat easy?09:49
tonyyarussozOrK: Quite possibly.09:50
chuckypzOrK, yeah that easy.  You need to edit the file with administrator privileges though.09:50
boinkheh .. that's what I though, z0rk09:50
ClayGnolimitsoya, can this also be done for the splash screen and background?09:50
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chuckypzOrK, i.e. sudo gedit /etc/modules09:50
zOrKyeah, I know09:50
zOrKcool..09:50
zOrKthanks09:50
chuckypzOrK, np09:50
zOrKI'll try rebooting, thanks al ot chuckyp.09:50
ltersany sun users...09:50
nolimitsoyaClayG, you mean usplash?09:50
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Gobfreycan anyone help me set up GRUB?09:51
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chuckypGobfrey, what do you mean set it up?09:51
ClayGnolimitsoya, I want to know if there is a way to do what we just did for the GDMlogin screen to the image that is loaded after loging on (the one that says loading desktop, modules, etc)09:51
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nolimitsoyaClayG, ah, there might be... never looked. :) mom09:51
chuckypClayG, you want to flip your entire display?09:52
ClayGchuckyp, no09:52
Gobfreychukyp: I unplugged my hard disk, installed windows on another, then plugged in the windows hard disk as a secondary drive.  I've tried to set up GRUB so that I can dual boot, but I got something wrong.....09:52
ClayGchuckyp, you know the splash screen?09:52
chuckyp!grub09:52
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:52
nolimitsoyaClayG, im on xubuntu right now, and there doesnt seem to be an eazu way to do that, no09:52
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zOrKchuckyp: it works!, thank you.09:53
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ClayGchuckyp, by defailt it is a rectangular box that says ubunutu and has different small icons that pop up after certain modules or parts of the system are loaded09:53
Ninja562what is a postfix configuration mean?09:53
nolimitsoyaClayG, there was a packadge before, in the repos, that changed you background one a month or something, though i dont know how to rotate wallpapers on reboot, with out a bit of effort :)09:53
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chuckypzOrK, np09:54
ClayGnolimitsoya, I'm watching some sht about the Sahara on the history channel.  It used to be full of giraffs, elephants, and all other animals thousands of years ago09:54
chuckypClayG, I know what you are talking about but  you can rotate X completely using xrand  so that everythign will be rotated in X09:54
nolimitsoyachuckyp, you got it wrong. he wants the wallpapers to change on reboot, in a rotating scheme09:55
chuckypnolimitsoya, ohh okay09:55
chuckypI thought he wanted to turn his desktop and stuff09:55
hierba13anyone know xinetd?  can't get it started...09:56
ClayGnah09:56
ClayGwant to do have different login and splash screens each time09:56
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Gobfreychuckyp:  I followed some instructions there.  I need to restart now. If it doesn't work, I'll be back.  If I don't come back, thanks for the pointer.09:57
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chuckypnp09:57
pike_chuckyp: for a prettier theme open a terminal and type "xgamma -rgamma 4"09:57
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bulmerI just finished installing using low res (VGA)..now at boot I selected ubuntu but nothing is displayed - because I think of the low res..how to correct this?09:57
chuckyppike_, ?09:57
nolimitsoya:P09:58
pike_chuckyp: im just bored sorry09:58
nolimitsoyapike is messing with you ;)09:58
nolimitsoyathough pink is nice...09:58
nolimitsoyacute :D09:58
jimdanielsterminis there any way to set power states with an amd processor?09:58
variantjimdanielstermin: if it supports them09:58
chuckyppike_, You shouldn't post that stuff in here poeople will try it.09:58
ClayGtry what?09:59
nolimitsoyawhats importantis that they know howto change back09:59
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ClayGoh i see09:59
nolimitsoya-rgamma 109:59
ClayGok, lemme " give 'er a whirl"09:59
Ninja562where can I find info on Postfix Configuration?09:59
nolimitsoyakawaii, eh ClayG? :)09:59
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Shadow420ok I can't seam to make vars to work09:59
nolimitsoyaNinja562, man postfix10:00
BelialMkIImmh... rose coloured specticles10:00
vcefhi10:00
ClayGnolimitsoya, kawaii?10:00
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nolimitsoyacute in japanese :)10:00
ClayGnolimitsoya, are you a jap?10:00
Ninja562nolimitsoya:thx10:00
nolimitsoyanope, swede :P10:00
Shadow420I run sudo make clean10:00
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ClayGnolimitsoya, ahhh ok10:00
ClayGhey thart reminds me10:00
vcefI've got this: -rw-rw-rw- 1 vita vita 405078016 Oct 16 23:37 backup.iso10:00
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nolimitsoyathough its fun knowing single words of lagnuages from halvway round the globe ^^10:01
vcefand this is part of my mtab: /tmp/test/backup.iso /tmp/test/iso iso9660 rw,loop=/dev/loop0 0 010:01
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ClayGhave anyone noticed that skype is slow as sht on linux?10:01
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Shadow420and then I get this make: *** No rule to make target `vars'.  Stop.10:01
vcefand still it complains that the file-system is read-only10:01
ClayGor is it just my machine/that version(old)10:01
ClayG?10:01
vcefany ideas?10:01
nolimitsoyaClayG, never used skype, so no :) why not just ventrilo?10:01
ompaulClayG, any one notice the !language?10:01
PoromenosHi, is there any way to stop the middle mouse button from pasting?10:01
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Shadow420any ideas to fix this10:01
ClayGventrilo?10:01
POVaddctvcef: iso9660 does not implement write operations10:01
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ClayGwhat is that nolimitsoya10:01
ompaulClayG, other than that the new one for ubuntu seems fast enough10:01
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vcefahh! since when?10:02
ompaulchuckyp, code it10:02
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ClayGompaul, ok thanks for the reminder10:02
nolimitsoyaClayG, ventrilo is a teamspeakingsoftware for gaming, but makes a good conference/telephone-alternative :)10:02
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Bubbadoodhi all fairly knew to linux ... was wondering .. I have a coprrupted USB Drive that was formatted via a NAS through USB using XFS .. the filesystem according to the NAS is corrupt .. they would only give me limited support but told me if I connected it to a Linux machine I may have some luck ... anyone feel like helping ?10:02
POVaddctvcef: always. iso9660 is not writeable, regardless of the media it is on10:02
ClayGnolimitsoya, yeah but skype has more people, i want to talk to chicks all over the world10:02
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chuckypompaul, yeah10:02
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GobfreySo, can anyone give me a little assistance setting up GRUB?  I looked at the docs, but it didn't work....10:02
chuckypompaul, lol10:02
vcefI remember altering a morphix iso this way two years ago10:03
chuckypGobfrey, didn't work?10:03
nolimitsoyaBubbadood, get xfsprogs10:03
nolimitsoyatheres a recoverytool10:03
chuckypGobfrey, What happened exactly?10:03
nolimitsoyaalso, check xfs documentation at sgi10:03
swiminanyone have any idea why my netboot installation fails whenever I try to start up the partition manager, after Ive detected the harddisks, if i look in /dev, the devices /dev/hda, and /dev/hdc are there, but nothing else is10:03
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Shadow420I am trying to compile xkegs and when I use sudo make clean I get this make: *** No rule to make target `vars'.  Stop. any ideas?10:03
Bubbadoodnolimitsoya thank you10:03
simtowerwhat is the correct package to install a nfs server on ubuntu?10:03
POVaddctvcef: that was certainly an iso with a ramdisk mounted over it (unionfs)10:03
Shadow420and there is no pre-built package for this10:04
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ClayGif Linux Torvalds and Richard Stallman got into a fight who would win?10:04
Poromenosthe ninja10:04
vcefPOVaddct: maybe so. but in the end there has to be written something10:04
lekvarClayG: A fight over what? :)10:04
nolimitsoyalinuz, without doubt10:04
tanyone here that can field a amavisd-new/spamasssassin question?10:04
PoromenosIs there any way to stop the middle mouse button from pasting?10:04
ClayGLT punked RTS on the movie10:04
chuckyp!nvs-user-server10:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvs-user-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:04
vcefheh, but it's long time ago, maybe I've just recreated that iso back then10:04
Gobfreychuckyp: nope.  It prints the three lines that I typed into the Windows XP section, then it just sits there doing nothing.  If I unplug my primary hard disk, and make the secondary one primary, it boots to windows fine.10:04
chuckyp!nfs-user-server10:04
host`how can I tell what the current version of xinit is?10:04
ubotunfs-user-server: User space NFS server. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2beta47-22 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 264 kB10:05
ClayGbrought his kid out on stage while RTS is trying to talk to everyone, of coarse all the cheerleaders ran over to the kid and took pictures and RTS was foiled again!10:05
lupine_85RTS?10:05
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chuckypGobfrey, well you reference to that disk is probably wrong.10:05
host`real time stratagy?10:05
lupine_85don't you mean... RMS... ?10:05
Gobfreyroot (hd1,0)10:05
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ClayGlekvar, a fight over calling th OS linux and possible RTS physically forcing Linux to add GNU to the source code, and announce it to everyone10:05
lekvarSay, I'm building a linux system and hoping to watch DVD's on my 1680x1050 display, and I'm wondering how well the available players scale the image.  I notice the display itself does so poorly, but I've seen it look good coming out of a powerbook or a Windows box w/ a decent nvidia card...10:06
chuckypGobfrey, that would be second drive first partition10:06
Gobfreywindows is on /dev/sdb110:06
nolimitsoyaBubbadood, sorry, i got no clue as to fedoras packagingsystem, but try yum xfsprogs10:06
nolimitsoya(i cant pm, couze im not registrerad10:06
ClayGon a different note, doe3s anyone here own a HP DV2000/5000/6000?10:06
nolimitsoya*-a10:06
Gobfreychuckyp: that's correct.10:06
ianmacgregorchuckyp: hdb1 ?10:07
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Shadow420I am trying to compile xkegs and when I use sudo make clean I get this make: *** No rule to make target `vars'.  Stop. any ideas?10:07
ClayGI want one (BAD) but want to make sure it wokrs, as in all the bells and whistles, i heard one of the models the bluetooth doewsn't work with ubuntu10:07
chuckypGobfrey, hrm.. is it a sata drive?10:07
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lekvarClayG: I think just having the conflict on the subject exposes the relationship between the two quite adequately...10:07
ianmacgregorShadow420: did you run configure first?10:07
Gobfreychuckyp:  it's /dev/sdb1, but all the entries in GRB use hd - but linux boots fine with that.  And yes, they're SATA drives10:07
crimsunJowi: yes, it was10:07
chuckypGobfrey, not sure about htat but just make sure you have makeactive and chainloader +1  under the windows one as well.10:07
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ClayGlekvar, you could see RTS getting mad and half talking out of his nose on the movie10:08
ClayGlekvar, IOW agreed.10:08
Shadow420I am not sure10:08
Gobfreychuckyp: I do.  those are the three lines in the windows menu section10:08
chuckypGobfrey, I don't have any experience with sata though.10:08
Shadow420how do I run it10:08
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lekvaryea, speaking of movies!10:08
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Bensr20detis there a way to reset all the pref. in rhythmbox?10:08
ompaul!offtopic10:08
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:08
ompaulwhere is that bot?10:09
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=== lekvar doesn't want to have to reboot his machine into windows just to have movies look right
chuckypShadow420, make clean cleans up the source directory.10:09
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CeneHello, I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 and am experiencing random X crashes, and can't find any solution to prevent them. Anyone can help or has the same problem?10:09
chuckypShadow420, did you compile with checkinstall or just install?10:09
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Gobfreychuckyp: when it was set up automaticall (many moons ago), it didn't do it this way, but I can't remember exactly how it did it.  I think it did something like swapping the hard disks.10:09
vcefdo you guys know if (and when) will I be able to mount iso images in nautilus?10:09
ClayGlekvar, you are right it was a good movie, and im not sure if the hacker in the beginning that ends up getting killed is supposed to be Linus.  I do know that Halley Bary(sp) looked very good in it, and Travolta was awsome10:10
CeneX just shuts down without any warning10:10
vcefyou know, clicky - click and there you go, you've just mounted your file to this directory ...10:10
Shadow420I haven't been able to install it10:10
chuckypGobfrey, well you should be able to do it the way you are trying but i'm just not sure of the pointer because its sata.  Can you post /boot/grub/menu.1st to pastebin let me take a look10:10
host`cene, first off, what desktop environment are you using?10:10
inphernois Edgy considered to be at a useable state yet?10:10
Cenehost`: Gnome10:10
eXistenZWhat is the best way to get vim7 on ubuntu dapper?10:10
chuckypinpherno, no its still beta10:10
lekvarClayG: didn't see it.  missed which movie.  i'm just coincidentally trying to evaluate hardware and system options around the matter :)10:10
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lupine_85inpherno: I consider it to be OK, but YMMV10:10
ompaulinpherno, it has not been released yet it willbe on the 20th10:11
eXistenZcompile from source?10:11
lupine_85apparently the kernel is b0rken right now, but I'm running my own ;)10:11
CeneAnd this happens like twice a day or more10:11
LjLinpherno: if you're prepared to see your system break completely at any given time, you can probably use it.10:11
inphernowell... i mean usable for a bleeding edge type guy like me... ie. i use firefox 2.0 and gaim 2.0 anyway10:11
host`Cene, have you tried 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'?10:11
lekvar*gets the feeling nvidia's a much safer choice in linux than ati*10:11
chuckypShadow420, well you typically run make clean after yo install it.10:11
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lupine_85inpherno: "probably fine"10:11
Cenehost`: yes. My system is fully updated. :)10:11
inphernokk :)10:11
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ClayGlekvar, it was a pain in the bottom(censors) to get it working for me, there seemed to always "be something missing"....for instance on some sites (89.com) when you wanted to watch a movie, it looked like it was loading it but then just stopped and didnt play10:11
host`then someone else will have to help you10:11
lupine_85it's unlikely that anything major (like, say, bash) is going to break this late in10:11
chuckypShadow420, what is it that you are trying to install again?  Did you check the repos to see if it was there.10:11
lupine_85#ubuntu+1 though, really10:11
Heldonanyone using RDP to get into ubuntu?  I can't get it to work right. Is there a firewall on ubuntu i need to add it to? i've done the remote destkop from ubuntu to allow10:11
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ti've got a couple of mail servers running ubuntu/postfix/amavisd-new/spamassassin/the whole 9 yards. I've noticed that spamassassin only seems to print its scoring data to mail headers when something is classified as mail, the ubuntu wiki shows it printing for all messages (apparently), anyone have a clue what setting I may have borked up?10:12
CeneAnd X logs doesn't show anything strange. No errors or anything at all10:12
ClayGI dont know why it is so difficult, probally something to do with MS being the devil or whatever but it is a task just to get standard media to play at all10:12
Shadow420the Apple IIgs Emulator Kegs 0.9110:12
host`I'm going with chuckyp10:12
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lupine_85ClayG: software licensing. Great stuff.10:12
Shadow420and I have checked in all of the repos nothing10:12
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host`in Xorg.log or whatever the file is10:12
zerotimehi, I got a problem with amarok 1.4.3 in ubuntu edgy eft, amarok hangs when rescanning collection, (30 gb of mp3, all of them with tags and images)10:12
LjL!edgy > zerotime10:12
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zerotimeif any one can help10:12
lekvarClayG: I never had a linux box that could handle it... tried to make it work on an ancient thinkpad for a while and gave up.  too little video ram!10:13
ompaulzerotime, the bot (ubotu) sent you a message, please read it10:13
ClayG lekvar but you said you had windows also on another boot, that should be a godsend for certain tasks10:13
zerotimeI have10:13
zerotimeI have joined channel ubuntu+110:14
ClayGI used to keep one just for my dvd stuff, converting and ripping or whatever10:14
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zerotimethanks10:14
ClayGi had not seen anything thatr could rival tmpgenc10:14
ompaulnp10:14
sureshot!aiglx10:14
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.10:14
ClayGbut i thknk (of coarse reformatted and lost it) there was something almost as good10:14
lekvarClayG: well, no, i bought a spiffy display and took it to a friend's place where were tried out games and movies on it on his XP machine...10:14
Gobfreychuckyp: it's pasted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27027/10:14
ClayGtmpgenc already isn't the fastest but this was REAL slow10:14
ClayGon the other hand i was impressed with k9copy10:15
lekvarThe video hardware market's seems little confusing right now from a linux PoV10:15
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Kim^Jhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX Followed that guide... How can I check if AIGLX is installed?10:15
LjL!xgl10:15
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:15
eXistenZdoes the freshnet vim work fine?10:15
Kim^JeXistenZ: Yes10:16
inphernoi've currently got an all-gtk desktop, but want to use kdevelop.... will installing and using a KDE app slow my system down?10:16
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chuckypGobfrey, is your primary drive sata as well?10:16
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vcef!edgy10:16
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule10:16
Gobfreychuckyp: all two of my drives are Sata10:16
chuckypGobfrey, the drive ubuntu is on that is10:16
sureshot!wiki10:16
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation10:16
vcef !schedule10:16
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule10:16
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ompaul!msg the bot10:16
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops10:16
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POVaddctShadow420: did you read README.compile.txt ?10:16
ompaulvcef, ^^ please check the last one from ubotu10:17
Shadow420yeah10:17
host`!release10:17
pascal\q10:17
vcefok, sorry ^_^10:17
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ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases10:17
POVaddctShadow420: so you changed the vars symlink correctly?10:17
eXistenZKim^J, Which of these am I supposed to download: http://www.freshnet.org/debian/dapper/vim7/ ?10:17
elfrangerI am going crazy here10:17
ompaulvcef, no issues, you know know it :)10:17
Shadow420it made the link10:17
elfrangerno matter what I try, stupid proftpd wont start in inetd...10:17
ompaulelfranger, with what exactly, can you tell the channel10:18
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elfrangerwhat am I doing wrong?10:18
POVaddctShadow420: no. YOU must set the link10:18
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ClayGneed kratom10:18
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Kim^JeXistenZ: Add the repo instead.10:18
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Heldonanyone know of a good groupware that can be installed on ubuntu? IE like Microsoft's Sharepoint? I know I said the devil's name10:18
Gobfreythe annoying thing is that I know if I installed ubuntu, it would set it up automatically.  Why isn't there a utility out there that can detect all bootable partitions and reconfigute GRUB for you?10:18
Jowicrimsun, the system seem to detect the stac92xx soundcard just fine. alsamixer let me set the volume levels. I killed esd just-in-case. everything seem to work on screen, but I don't get any sound output. do you have any ideas of what can be causing this?10:18
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elfrangerthe inetd.conf says : ftp     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/proftpd10:18
elfrangerand, proftpd.conf is set to servertype inetd10:19
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crimsunJowi: well, first update to 2.6.15-2710:19
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Bubbadoodthan you nolimitsoya .. there was a fedora release ... its scanning for backup/secondary magic number now using xfs_repair (im crossing my fingers)10:19
Shadow420when I ran rm vars; ln -s vars_x86linux vars10:19
ompaulelfranger, there is a proftpd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ProFTP10:19
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elfrangerompaul: thanks, looking10:20
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host`question, if I install Edgy, would I still keep my current ubuntu version as backup?10:20
Jowicrimsun, can't unfortunatley. 2.6.15-27 does not have any linux-dri-modules-xxxx10:20
chuckypGobfrey, The only thing I would try is not using the chainloader command  i.e. comment it out and see how windows acts.10:20
bulmerhow may I assign another partition for /swap and then remove the older one that is smaller size?10:20
LjLhost`: "would", or "should"?10:20
POVaddctShadow420: 22:19 < Shadow420> when I ran rm vars; ln -s vars_x86linux vars   ...what did happen then?10:21
Heldonanyone?10:21
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constrictedevery time i use the pachage manager it returns a error... but appears to install stuff right10:21
host`would I be able to keep it10:21
LjLhost`: anyway, you probably shouldn't install edgy to start with10:21
LjLhost`: only by making a separate partition for edgy.10:21
elfrangerompaul: not much info there...10:21
Newbi8Hello!Anyone who knows of a good p2p filesharing prog for Ubuntu?And who can help me install it?10:21
Shadow420it made the link when I ran that command10:21
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host`why shouldn't I install it?10:21
chuckyp!tell Newbi8 about p2p10:21
LjL!p2p > newbi810:21
Shadow420then I typed make10:21
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LjL!edgy > host`10:21
POVaddctShadow420: works for me10:21
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Gobfreychuckyp: I'm looking a the GRUB documentation page, and with Windows, it recommends using map to swap the hard disks around.10:22
LjLhost`: because it's not released. because it's only supposed to be run by testers.10:22
GobfreyI'm going to have a play, and if I have no luck, I'll be back.10:22
Gobfreythanks for the help.10:22
chuckypGobfrey, yeah  i'm not sure thats wierd.  I found a post on it here. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/59737-after-windows-xp-installed-2nd-drive-can-no-longer-boot-fedora-core-4-a.html10:22
Shadow420now I got a bunch of .o files now10:22
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crimsunJowi: linux-dri?10:22
crimsunJowi: who provides them?10:23
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Newbi8chuckyp: Thanks, but how do I install it?I've tried to install frostwire but it doesn't start!10:23
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nolimitsoya_Bubbadood, sry, cat jacked och the modem :P10:23
nolimitsoya_*out10:23
benlakeanyone know if you can create a linear raid using other raids via mdadm?10:23
netghi10:23
POVaddctShadow420: and in the kegs.0.91 directory you should have a xkegs executable now10:23
PerhamXhello guys10:23
Bubbadoodthank you nolimitsoya .. there was a fedora release ... its scanning for backup/secondary magic number now using xfs_repair (im crossing my fingers)10:23
chuckypShadow420, usually when you install from source you ./configure then you make  then sudo make install or sudo make checkinstall I prefer using checkinstall because it creates a deb for easy removal.  Typically source packages have a README documentation in the tar ball and INSTALL which would be installation instructions.10:23
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Shadow420ok I will check10:23
netgi'm trying to compile nozomi module10:23
elfrangerompaul: Do you know about this? I am getting nothing from the link you gave me...10:23
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nolimitsoya_Bubbadood, best of luck :)10:24
chuckypNewbi8, ?10:24
PerhamXwhat's the command if i want to download andinstall dvd support on my ubuntu?10:24
Bubbadoodno more XFS for me ;)10:24
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hagbard_What can be the problem if X can't find any screens ?10:24
POVaddctchuckyp: looks like the kegs makefile is missing a install target10:24
chuckypNewbi8, that page should have directions about how to install etc...10:24
Jowicrimsun, pool/aiglx/l/linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-25/linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-25-686_20060705-0aiglx~compiz1_i386.deb (think that's xgl.compiz.info or maybe ubuntu.compiz.net?)10:24
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chuckypPOVaddct, ahh10:24
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netgI get this error  /usr/src/modules/nozomi/nozomi.c: In function receive_data:              10:24
netg  /usr/src/modules/nozomi/nozomi.c:966: error: struct tty_struct has no    10:24
netg  member named flip10:24
Newbi8Chuckyp: I'll give it another go!Thanks!:)10:25
PerhamXwhat's the command if i want to download andinstall dvd support on my ubuntu?10:25
POVaddctchuckyp: i just compiled it here. can run the executable from the source dir with  ./xkegs10:25
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chuckypPOVaddct, lol10:25
gothenburg:P10:25
nolimitsoya_tell me how i goes, will you :)10:25
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gothenburgxD10:25
POVaddctchuckyp: however i have no apple gs software here :)10:25
PerhamXsomebody help me,what's the command if i want to download and install DVD support on my ubuntu?10:25
chuckyp!dvd > PerhamX10:25
Shadow420I found the exe thanks10:25
chuckyp!patience10:25
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:25
Shadow420later10:25
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PerhamXbut it says bash: command not found10:26
Jowicrimsun, seems like a must-have if I want to use aiglx (xorg-air)10:26
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chuckypPerhamX, says command not found for what?10:26
PerhamXi want to play dvd movies using the default movi player10:26
chuckypPerhamX, did you follow the guide from ubotu10:26
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PerhamXwhere is it?10:27
elfrangercrap, back to standalone proftpd...10:27
chuckyp!dvd10:27
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:27
elfrangerstupid inetd stuff10:27
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nolimitsoya__Bubbadood, im sure you already know, but keeping backups is a good habbit. :) a dvdburner i quite cheap these days. id recommend getting one, and a couple of dvdrw, for that purpouse :)10:27
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Bubbadoodyeah my NAS is RAID 510:28
PerhamX!mp310:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:28
dfWinamp not Running10:28
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chuckypdf, ?10:28
BubbadoodI was moving files temporarily using the USB port on my NAS .. and now I'm paying the price10:28
joe_thi. Ive not long updated to EdgyEftBeta semi painlessly. My CDRW/DVDRW drive on my laptop is now not recognised. Looking at dmesg showed ide1 is not getting searched. To fix this am I best d/ling a vanilla kernel and recompiling? Current kernel version is 2.6.17-10-generic. Any help would be great thanks!10:28
fraggstaHas something broken direct rendering for nvidia cards in edgy today?  Because it just stopped working for me.10:28
chuckypdf, did you check out xmms if you are used to winamp you might find it more your style.10:28
LjL!edgy > joe_t10:28
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chuckyp!edgy > joe_t10:29
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nolimitsoya__Bubbadood, raid is not a backup. :) only a way to get online quickly, in the event of disk failure10:29
chuckypLjL, arghhh beatme10:29
joe_tcheers10:29
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rambo3joe_t, falling back to older kernel ?10:29
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elfrangerI have an 80MB mysql file that is a backup from my server. I have transferred the file to the new server, how may I best import it?10:29
OuterlimitI just made my parition bigger by first using ghost 4 linux to do a raw backup of my current one, deleting the current partition and making a new one out of all the freespace, using ghost 4 linux to do a raw restore of my data.  Everything is working fine, However linux does not see the new free space... it only thinks i have ~1.9gigs.  I am using ext3 file system.  I tried doing a fsck.ext3 /dev/sda3 and tune2js -f /dev/sda3 from a live Ubun10:29
Outerlimittu disk.  it just told me the device already has a journal.  Any suggestions?10:29
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joe_tno kernel starts fine, just no cd/dvd modules loaded infact no /dev/hdb10:30
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Bubbadoodwell for storage purposes the RAID 5 is ok for us .. but you are right I have about 30 DVD9 blanks ... time to start using them!10:30
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joe_trambo3: ^^10:30
Ninja562Hello, what is the apt-get switch to fix broken packages?10:30
SB|nblracerpike_ or any one elese, how can i delete a partiotion10:30
yokobrhi guys10:30
elfrangerman apt-get10:30
SB|nblracerFdisk says unable to open10:30
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yokobrgot a big problem here...10:30
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chuckyp!ask > yokobr10:31
ianmacgregorsudo apt-get -f10:31
theineHi, where should I go for Edgy support?10:31
LjL!edgy10:31
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ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule10:31
Jowicrimsun, found this one https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/45841 but it's not assigned to anyone10:31
yokobri spend much time on it and it cant be solved10:31
eedgeHey, simple question: can someone forward me a clean sources.list for edgy...10:31
theineCheers10:31
b08ydoes anyone know, how to paste ascii symblos in gtk interface, like u do with ctrl+alt+126 in windows10:31
chuckyp!edgy > eedge10:31
yokobrmy k6 doesnt boot.....its a sis 530 pcchips mobo10:31
ianmacgregoreedge: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:31
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eedgeOpps, thanks chuckyp :)10:32
yokobrand it just boots from my hd..10:32
Ninja562-f, thanks10:32
yokobrso i cant install a new os in there10:32
eedgeeven better ianmacgregor, thanks a bundle.10:32
Jowicrimsun, unfortunatley I have not be able to get sound at all and have no usb sound device to test with (internal speaker + normal headphones only)10:32
ianmacgregoreedge: I just looked and that source-o-matic page doesn't have a selection for edgy :(10:32
benlakeanyone have any working knowledge of mdadm?10:32
chuckypyokobr, what are you saying you can boot to cd?  and you want to install ubuntu?10:33
dark_lightyokobr, you can install a new os booting by HD10:33
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eedgeNot it doesn't, thanks anyway :)10:33
ianmacgregorYou're welcome :)10:33
zOrKI need tcltls to install amsn, which packages should I apt-get?10:33
chuckypeedge, people will be able to help you in #ubuntu+110:33
rambo3Jowi what module is it using10:33
ianmacgregoreedge: I bet it will have it after the 28th :)10:33
chuckypzOrK, isn't amsn in the repos?10:34
chuckyp!amsn10:34
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB10:34
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chuckypzOrK, yeah just enable universe and sudo aptitude install amsn   it will install the dependencies for you.10:34
zOrKnop chuckyp..10:34
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zOrKis not :(10:34
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pontusenheya. I have a problem with firefox. When i browse with one resolution(1280x1024) firefox won't show sites normal, the text is disorientated. When i higher the resolution everything works as normal. please help me!?10:34
chuckypzOrK, you need to enable the universe repo10:34
SB|nblracerwhy wehen i do fdisk /dev/hda it syas unable to open10:34
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zOrKok SR10:35
zOrKgot ti10:35
chuckyp!repos > zOrK10:35
sobersabrehi, guys. when is planned the next 6.10 release ?10:35
chuckyp!edgy > sobersabre10:35
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zOrKubotu!, lol, very creative.10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lol, very creative. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
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nolimitsoya___Bubbadood, hows your recovery going? :)10:35
GhostFreeman!xfce10:35
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop10:35
zOrKthanks again chuckyp10:36
chuckypnp10:36
Newbi8How do I uninstall a program??I'm really trying to get rid of Frostwire10:36
Outerlimit!edgy > outerlimit10:36
pontusenI have a problem with firefox. When i browse with one resolution(1280x1024) firefox won't show sites normal, the text is disorientated. When i higher the resolution everything works as normal. please help me!?10:36
chuckypNewbi8, sudo aptitude remove frostwire10:36
chuckypNewbi8, or if you used apt-get sudo apt-get remove frostwire10:36
rambo3!channel doesn't  support automatix10:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about channel doesn't  support automatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:37
yokobranyone knows a alternative good, clean and beaultiful wm?10:37
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sladenanto9us: XFCE?10:37
chuckyp!xfce > yokobr10:37
kmaynardyokobr, kde, gnome, xfce4, fluxbox, windowmaker...10:37
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Outerlimit!partitions > outerlimit10:37
Outerlimit!ext3 > outerlimit10:37
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ianmacgregorOuterlimit: You can /query ubotu  and do your searching in another tab :)10:38
Newbi8chuckyp:Thanks again!:)10:38
Outerlimithehe, thanks10:38
kmaynardi see Outerlimit is doing his homework :)10:38
chuckypthats good10:38
chuckypNewbi8, np10:38
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kmaynardthats awseome10:38
Outerlimithah, yeah im trying to find my answer...10:38
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kmaynardawesome*10:38
ianmacgregorOuterlimit: I wouldn't normally say anthing but this channel is often busy :)10:38
tech__Hi all.  New to X-Chat and looks good for what I need it.  How can I change my PC name for remote connection?10:38
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Jowirambo3, sorry was away for a second. what module does what use? the soundcard?10:39
kmaynard90% of the time in here its, "can yu teach me ssh?!"10:39
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kmaynardor whatever10:39
asmo674hurthow to change splash image?10:39
Outerlimitianmacgregor, thats fine.  i know it is, and definatly understand.  I assume that was the purpose of the > :)10:39
chuckypusually people don't even try they don't even google or anything they just ask in here.  Then when I google and see the first response would have helped them I can only shake my head.10:39
nolimitsoyasry, dropped out. hows it going Bubbadood?10:39
rambo3Jowi, yes10:39
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tech__I get a localostname:0 and cannot seem to change it.10:39
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kmaynardchuckyp wins #ubuntu for the day10:40
chuckyplol10:40
Outerlimitalright, i am having no luck...10:40
OuterlimitI just made my parition bigger by first using ghost 4 linux to do a raw backup of my current one, deleting the current partition and making a new one out of all the freespace, using ghost 4 linux to do a raw restore of my data.  Everything is working fine, However linux does not see the new free space... it only thinks i have ~1.9gigs.  I am using ext3 file system.  I tried doing a fsck.ext3 /dev/sda3 and tune2js -f /dev/sda3 from a live Ubun10:40
Outerlimittu disk.  it just told me the device already has a journal.  Any suggestions?10:40
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Outerlimiti was thinking mabye i need to reset thge journal10:40
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xavchuckyp, but you have google skillz10:40
Outerlimitor scan the drive again, or something...10:40
chuckypDunno where to begin on that one Outerlimit10:40
ianmacgregorOuterlimit: What's the actual problem?10:41
gl0beHello,  Can somebody help me remember the command to reconfigure xserver?10:41
Jowirambo3, "snd 60004 6 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer"10:41
sobersabredpkg-reconfigure10:41
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asmo674hurthow to change splash image whic shows after login screen???10:41
Outerlimitianmacgregor, linux says it is using up more space than it actually is10:41
chuckypgl0be, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:41
kitche!hostname > tech__10:41
Outerlimiti should have about 20 gigs of freespace10:41
Outerlimitit says i only have ~2gig10:41
ianmacgregorsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:41
ClayGanyone here try kratom 2.010:41
ClayG?10:41
gl0bechuckyp: thanks10:41
Gobfreychuckyp: no luck! :(  I think it should be [ map (hd0) (hd1) \n map (hd1) (hd0) \n rootnoverify (hd1,0) \n makeactive \n chainloader +1 \n boot ] , but that doesn't work.  It give me an "unsupported executable" error message10:41
chuckyp!anyone > ClayG10:41
kmaynardOuterlimit, ghost 4 linux? have you looked at the partition in gparted or cfdisk to see if it's reporting correctly?10:42
OuterlimitThe original partition size was 19, now it is about 4710:42
Outerlimitkmaynard, it is reporting correctly10:42
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chuckypGobfrey, hrm... perhaps some of the grub experts lurking around will know more.  or if there is a #grub channel dunno10:42
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kmaynardOuterlimit, how are you getting your numbers?10:42
Outerlimitkmaynard, gparted10:42
Gobfreychukyp: ah, so there is.  Thanks.10:42
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chuckypAdios everyone10:43
kitcheGobfrey: ask in #grub but make sure that you format that map stuff right since that looks horrible when you ask it10:43
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Bubbadoodit applied some changes no10:43
Bubbadoodit applied some changes nolimitsoya10:43
maccam94is there an active edgy channel?10:43
LjL!edgy > maccam9410:43
kitchemaccam94: #ubuntu+110:43
ianmacgregormaccam94: #ubuntu+110:43
nolimitsoyagood :) get any files back in a useable state?10:43
Outerlimitkmaynard, Gparted says current partition size is 41.93 and that 39.82 of that is in use.  Which is impossible because my previous partition was 19 gigs.10:43
eedgeWas just typing it, and got beaten by 3 people.10:43
ClayGuh ok, lol is kratom 2.0 good?10:43
eedge#ubuntu+1 that is.10:43
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Bubbadoodtelling me to mount and then unmount before attemting to use the repair utility again10:44
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ClayGdn10:44
Bubbadoodshoudl I bother doing that or just throw it back on my NAS10:44
|tom|test10:44
kmaynardOuterlimit, go to a terminal and try  df -h10:44
nolimitsoyaBubbadood, use umount to unmount10:44
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Bubbadoodits not mounted10:44
josh_where do i change my computers "workgroup"?10:44
nolimitsoyaBubbadood, ah ok10:44
Outerlimitkmaynard, /dev/sda3              19G   17G  1.2G  94% /10:44
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ClayGwho designed ubotu?10:44
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Outerlimitosnaps10:45
josh_it stuck me in workgroup and my network uses mshome10:45
nolimitsoyawell, mount it, and see what gives :)10:45
ClayGas far as made his/her respsonses10:45
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Outerlimitkmaynard, I forgot, i did notice that before.10:45
rambo3Jowi,  sometimes you can add option in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base <- make your own copy from alsa and see option in terminal buy typing: modinfo snd_hda_intel10:45
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Bubbadoodmount /dev/sda1 /testing10:45
Bubbadoodis that the command i forget10:45
sureshothey all i know this is off topic but the aiglx channal seems to be vacant so can someone answer this questio...i need to know what kind of compatablity the ati mobility x600 xe has for aiglx10:45
Outerlimitkmaynard, it seems to me that ext3 or linux is not realising there is now more freespace than before10:45
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k31thIm trying to make a script how do i get it to take an input after the script like what passwd would do E.G  changepasswd.sh username newpasswd10:45
josh_anyone?10:45
kmaynardhuh10:45
nolimitsoyaBubbadood, sudo mount /dev/sda1 -t xfs /home/bubbadood/thefolderijustcreated :)10:45
LjLClayG, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic10:46
kmaynardOuterlimit, that's odd...i've copied over entire partitions before, and it just worked...10:46
Bubbadoodthank you10:46
OuterlimitHmmm10:46
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kmaynardOuterlimit, it seems that the image recreated your old partition...?10:46
Jowirambo3, gonna look into that10:46
josh_anyone know the answer?10:46
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rambo3Jowi, you can test what works buy unloading and loading module :sudo  rmmod snd_hda_intel && sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel position_fix=110:46
ClayGLjL, I'm doing that now10:47
gl0behow can I enable remote ssh into my box from command line (no xserv)10:47
uterhi i habe a question about winTv10:47
Outerlimitkmaynard, not sure.... when i look in GParted it tells me that the partition is 41.93gigs, with no freespace10:47
josh_globe "ssh user@host"10:47
kmaynardOuterlimit, worst case scenarion, backup all of /home and reinstall... works like a charm, and all your settings are instact10:47
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Jowirambo3, is that before making any changes to alsa-base or after?10:47
josh_how do i change my workgroup?10:47
kmaynardscenario! d$$$%^^ i cant type today10:47
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Outerlimitkmaynard, i may do that...10:47
kmaynardOuterlimit, i keep /home on a seperate partition, so reinstalls are trivial10:48
kmaynardother than the time...10:48
rambo3Jowi, thats just temporery untill you reboot. if you want changes permanent then edit alsa-base10:48
Drauconwhen is edgy supposed to come out?10:48
nolimitsoyaOuterlimit, are you sure you are running the latest version of gparted?10:48
Outerlimitkmaynard, i wanted to not have to reinstall all the packages agian though.... Is there a way to make a list of packages i have installed?10:48
Jowirambo3, ah. hang10:48
gl0bejosh_: thanks.  but I mean to enable ssh'ing into the box I am at currently...or is it enabled by default?10:48
apecatgl0be: you need to install openssh-server10:48
nolimitsoyaand have you rescanned the drives?10:48
kmaynardOuterlimit, i feel ya10:48
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gl0beapecat: apt-get?10:48
Outerlimitkmaynard, i didn't go with seperate partitions cuz i had no idea of what sizes to make :(10:48
apecatgl0be: yup, apt-get install openssh-server10:48
nolimitsoyaBubbadood, what gives :)10:48
Outerlimitnolimitsoya, i am fairly certain... i can run an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade if u'd like10:48
nolimitsoyaOuterlimit, about 5gb for /, and the rest for /home10:48
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Outerlimitqtparted shows the same info10:49
Jowirambo3, module snd_hda_intel is in use. can't remove it10:49
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Outerlimitnolimitsoya, that will be enough for all the aps i will install and everything?  i thought /usr/bin grew farily large.10:49
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Ninja562That Synaptic package manager is slick!10:49
nolimitsoyaOuterlimit, did you commit the changes you did on the live gparted, or did you forget?10:49
Outerlimitnolimitsoya, i commited them.10:49
gl0beapecat: okay, thanks.  Is that configurabel from the term?10:49
nolimitsoyaOuterlimit, an apt-get clean one in a while will sort you out. :)10:49
rambo3Jowi, stop alsa first10:50
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ianmacgregorOuterlimit: Did you install everything using sunaptic?10:50
bulmerapecat: umm sshd is not installed as part of installation?10:50
apecatbulmer: hmm don't think so10:50
nolimitsoyaOuterlimit, then do the whole thing over, and see what happens :)10:50
ianmacgregorbulmer: No, you'll have to install it10:50
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apecatgl0be: yes, take a look in /etc/ssh10:50
bulmerahh okay..thanks10:50
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cr3how can I enable X connections to my machine?10:50
Outerlimitianmacgregor, somethings i installed using apt-get in the terminal and others using synaptic.10:50
nolimitsoyaoh, and Outerlimit are you using a filesystem that supports shrinking?10:51
Outerlimitnolimitsoya, i am using ext310:51
Jowirambo3, alsa stopped, same error10:51
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apecatgl0be: the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config that is, but the ssh server should be up and running directly after install10:51
constrictedwhat are some good pachages like easyubuntu? (or a website with popular massinstall pagages)10:51
Outerlimitnolimitsoya, thats why i thought making it reload its journal (or whatever it can do...) would fix the problem.10:51
ianmacgregorOuterlimit: For the stuff you installed with synaptic, have a look at the files in /root/.synaptic/log. you can see them with: gksudo nautilus10:51
kitchecr3: you want full gui or just programs? for X connections10:51
apecatconstricted: automatix10:51
Bubbadoodsudo mount /dev/sda1 -t xfs /home10:51
cr3kitche: just programs for X connections10:51
nolimitsoyaBubbadood, no, thats not right :)10:52
nolimitsoyathat will brake things10:52
Bubbadood.. /dev/sda1 : Cannot find superblock10:52
nolimitsoyamake a folder in you home, and mount there10:52
kitchecr3: set up sshd and you will have to edit certain lines in it's configuration10:52
Bubbadoodyeah sorry I did10:52
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Bubbadoodsudo mount /dev/sda1 -t xfs /home/please10:52
Bubbadood.. /dev/sda1 : Cannot find superblock10:52
cr3kitche: there's more than x forwarding, I think, don't I need to configure my X server as well to allow network connections?10:52
nolimitsoyaok, and do you get any readable data?10:52
nolimitsoyaok, do the recovery again10:53
nolimitsoyaunmount first :)10:53
tech__for some reason my hostname has changed and to permanently change it I must be root.  How can I become root?10:53
rambo3Jowi, try it in sudo -i10:53
Bubbadoodok10:53
lupine_85tech__: with difficulty ;)10:53
kitchecr3: nope since X is already setup to do that10:53
lupine_85rebooting into recovery mode would work10:53
constrictedah ok thanx10:53
nolimitsoyaand Bubbadood, when you mount, try doing it read only :)10:53
Jowirambo3, no go10:53
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nolimitsoyai think adding a -rw after the -t xfs should do the trick10:53
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rambo3then edit alsabase or ask someone who know why its not unloading10:54
nolimitsoya*sry, -ro10:54
Jowinever had problems removing a module before10:54
tech__Lets do it!10:54
woland_hi. can anyone help with ipsec (esp/manual keying/transport mode) using setkey?10:54
Jowik rambo3 thanks for the pointers, much appreciated10:54
apecatconstricted: for more specific help, look here http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_Automatix2_with_Apt10:54
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lupine_85tech__: as in, you would have needed to set a root password while sudo was working...10:54
lupine_85as it is, your only option is to reboot10:54
lupine_85which is really, really, really stupid10:54
constrictedthanks10:55
kitchejowi: you can't remove the sound module sicne if X is up probably your window manager sound daemon is running10:55
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tech__Do you mean to say tha, I would I have to re-install?10:55
adamantasI like to beat women10:55
LjLtech__: no you don't. he said reboot. reboot into recovery mode, and you'll have root there10:56
kitchetech__: use sudo or gtksudo10:56
kitcheopps gksudo that is :)10:56
nolimitsoyatech__, you can always fire up a live system and do all the editing from there, if things are realy screwed up10:56
gl0beapecat: thanks for the tips10:56
Jowikitche, no sound deamon should be running. will leave xorg to test. brb10:57
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apecatgl0be: np :)10:57
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gl0beapecat: yes indeed, it appears to be working.10:58
apecatokays10:58
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gl0bethanks alot10:58
uterhi can somebody helps me with my tv-card ? i got in dmesg only wirred informations ;)10:58
tech__Oh!  Linux is all new to me and must play the Admin role, so my terminology is scarce.  Thanks.10:58
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nolimitsoyatech__, a live system is what you get when you boot the install cd, without installing to disc10:59
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nolimitsoyafrom there you can mount you harddrives, and change whatever you want :)10:59
constrictedUnpacking automatix2 (from .../automatix2_1.0-1.9-6.06dapper%5fi386_i386.deb) ...10:59
constrictedSetting up automatix2 (1.0-1.9-6.06dapper_i386) ...10:59
constricteddpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed10:59
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elfrangerI have moved from a slackware server to an ubuntu server... when launching the sites, all norwegian characters are screwed... got any idea where I need to fix?11:00
tech__So, if I reboot this machine I'm working on and go live, I can then become root and....11:00
constrictedhuh?11:00
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sheriffwhat r the diferrences between desktop cd and alternate cd?11:00
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kitchesheriff: desktop cd is like a live cd where alternate cd is how debian install is11:01
nolimitsoyasheriff, alternate is a textmode installer, desktop is a fully working live cd11:01
ianmacgregorsheriff: Alternate CD has a text-base installer, desktop has gui11:01
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totakaHi, I use vi, it automatically put "#" if I type "#" in previous line. Can anybody teach me how to disable this?11:01
=== ianmacgregor prefers Alternate CD
Bubbadoodwhen I got the superblock error .. it never atually mounted11:01
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Bubbadoodactually11:01
sheriffwell then i wanna install it to my system so i have to download alternate one?11:01
Bubbadoodso there is nothing to unmount11:01
nolimitsoyaok :)11:01
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apecatsheriff: the desktop cd is going to be *slow* to use for install with less than 256 megabytes of RAM11:02
ianmacgregorsheriff: Desktop CD has a gui installer, but I don't know how reliable it is11:02
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LjL!alternate11:02
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.11:02
cyfrHello can anyone help me? I dont understand how to install the icon theme here: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38433725/ dragging it in to theme manager says 'invalid file format'11:02
apecatianmacgregor: sheriff the desktop cd has a perfectly reliable installer. its painfully slow to boot and use though11:02
ianmacgregorapecat: Ahh, thanks for the info11:03
constrictedwhen i try to use automatrix it says to close other package managers first, but i have none open11:03
ianmacgregorI haven't ever used it11:03
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nolimitsoyaalso, if there is any need for advanced options or lvm, the desktopis a nogo11:03
kmaynardi prefer the alternate cd11:03
ianmacgregorconstricted: automatix is not supported in here11:03
sheriffubotu: i tried to boot it but there r some choises to select and i select the first one to install but it didnt start i mean it always gave IO error11:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i tried to boot it but there r some choises to select and i select the first one to install but it didnt start i mean it always gave IO error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:03
apecatianmacgregor: yeah, i'm not using it either. it's ppretty wacky to provide only the desktop installer on the cds that u ship to people, i mean lots of people will want to install on old slow computers11:03
LjLsheriff: ubotu is not a human being.11:04
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ianmacgregorapecat: Good point11:04
apecat*that they ship11:04
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ianmacgregorsheriff: ubotu is a bot11:04
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kitcheTotakasheriff: probably a bad media11:04
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LjLsheriff: use the Desktop CD to install Ubuntu, unless you have compelling reasons to do otherwise.11:04
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sheriffLjL : but it didnt start i mean i selected the first choise11:05
sheriffbut it gave an error11:05
LjLsheriff: what error11:05
lupine_85Use the alt-install CD unless you can't cope without a pretty GUI ;)11:05
apecatsheriff: how much memory do you have?11:05
sheriffit tired to mount my hard drives on hda11:05
sheriff2 giga11:05
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apecatok11:06
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LjLsheriff: what was the error message11:06
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sheriffLjL : it was like it couldnt mount hda but im gonna install it sda11:06
sheriffin d11:07
sheriffsda11:07
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LjLsheriff: wait a moment, was the actual Live CD that failed to load, or just the installer failed?11:07
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sheriffLjL: the first choise was Try to install or boot ubuntu and i selected it11:08
SB|nblraceri think libux hats me11:08
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LjLsheriff: yes. and then you got an error?11:08
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SB|nblracerit wont let me oppen my secound harddrive11:08
Simian__.11:08
sheriffLjL: yes it tried to mount hda but i dony have any drive on Hda11:08
LjL!ntfs > SB|nblracer11:08
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sheriffLjL: is that the command?11:09
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SB|nblracerLjL it is not ntfs11:09
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SB|nblracerit ext311:09
SB|nblracerit from a previous installl11:09
LjLSB|nblracer: and what happens when you try to mount it11:09
SB|nblracerthat i dont need11:09
abelh11:10
SB|nblracerit mounts fine11:10
SB|nblraceri also tryed11:10
SB|nblracerdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M11:10
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LjLsheriff: no. i don't know what your problem is. perhaps if you could write down the exact error message, we could google it a little. but right now i have no clue11:10
SB|nblraceri mean hdb!!!11:10
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LjLSB|nblracer: so, "fdisk /dev/hdb" results in an error?11:11
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kareli cant use lvm on a fresh edgy install, i get:  vgscan11:11
karelNo program "vgscan" found for your current version of LVM11:11
karelwhat can i do?11:11
sheriffLjL: i'll install ubuntu to sda but it tried to mount hda but i dont have any hda drive11:11
karelis LVM broken in egdy?11:11
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javiolo!skype11:11
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto11:11
SB|nblracerLjL yes, says unable to open11:11
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poll!ADDON11:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ADDON - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:11
LjLsheriff: i understood that.11:11
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sheriffok i'll write the error11:12
LjLSB|nblracer: well, of course you'd have to be root for that to work. are you?11:12
poll!list11:12
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:12
SB|nblracerhow do i know if im in root LjL11:12
karelanyone using LVM on edgy?11:12
LjLSB|nblracer: the right command to type is "sudo fdisk /dev/hdb"11:12
LjL!root > SB|nblracer11:12
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SB|nblraceri tryed to login as root but wont let me11:13
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SB|nblracerwhat is sudo?11:13
LjLSB|nblracer: and, besides, perhaps you could use "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb" instead, i find that more user friendly11:13
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LjLSB|nblracer: the bot just told you11:13
miL^eZhi sorry my english level but Im from France, How I can download music from www.goear.com11:13
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miL^eZIm trying but I dont found download button11:13
SB|nblracercfdisk did not work, but i will try thgis sudo11:13
kitchemiL^eZ umm you'll get the same anwser as you did in #gentoo11:13
LjLmiL^eZ: is this an Ubuntu related question?11:13
miL^eZkitche11:14
miL^eZyes but they said me to make questio11:14
LjLSB|nblracer, sudo is simply the command you use in Ubuntu to do things as root. please read the bot-provided document. it's an important thing to know.11:14
leakd n811:14
kitcheLjL: no it's not he asked the samething in #gentoo11:14
miL^eZon france channel11:14
miL^eZbut11:14
miL^eZanyone can answer11:14
miL^eZmy question11:14
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miL^eZand is very important11:14
LjLmiL^eZ: no. not here, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you really want to ask it11:14
Jowikitche, crimsun and (who else helped? forgot the nick): I just discovered that I do have sound. got it in console mode with mp3blaster so I tried it in Xorg and it works there to. installed xmms - no sound. configured the alsa output so it pointed to correct hardware and now I have sound there as well. just the gnome apps that is lacking it seems. must be a setting in gconf-editor somewhere...11:14
LjLthis is strictly a support channel for Ubuntu11:14
miL^eZpleeeassssseeeeee11:15
miL^eZ:((((((((11:15
LjLmiL^eZ: for the last time: no.11:15
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agohi all11:15
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kitcheJowi: yeah they might be using OSS but you can use aoss for them11:15
asmo674hurthow to run GConf (not in terminal)11:15
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agoI installed python-xlib under edgy, but I am not able to use the module from python. Am I missing something?11:15
LjLasmo674hurt: the editor you mean? i think it's there in Preferences / Administration11:15
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Jowikitche, can't find the sound output-sink anymore in gnome. must have moved the setting somewhere (they always hide the useful stuff in new versions)11:16
peladillas#guadalines11:16
LjLpeladillas: you should type "/join #channelname" to join a channel11:16
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yokobranyone knows an OS or distro that boots from disket?11:17
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LjLyokobr: you mean floppy disk?11:17
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peladillas#guadalinex11:17
LjLpeladillas: did you hear me?11:18
root__crap... my ubuntu is all kinds of screwed up now11:18
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bretticusyokobr:tomsbrt11:18
peladillascomo puedo conectar con el chat de guadalinex11:18
kitcheyokobr: yeah there is one that can the name escapes me at the moment11:18
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root__i tried installing nfs and nis on my box eariler today... now my user administration app wont load the users...11:18
LjLpeladillas: escribe /join #guadalinex11:18
POVaddctyokobr: tomsrtbt11:18
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root__nevermind, ill use gnome11:18
taliseinGNOME = <311:19
asmo674hurtLjL, i can't find here11:19
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nitroxideyo11:19
SUSaiyangnome is icecream?11:19
LjLasmo674hurt: well, i use KDE, so perhaps i just remember wrong. anyway, from the terminal you can type "gconf-editor" to load it up... i know you asked to avoid the terminal11:19
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nitroxideis somebody knows how to disable some module auto modprobe at startup ?11:19
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kitchenitroxide: blacklist it11:20
kitche!blacklist11:20
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list11:20
taliseinoh neat.11:20
taliseinI just edit /etc/modules11:20
nitroxidekitche: i've already did it and it was not working11:20
asmo674hurtLjL, ok! thx11:20
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SUSaiyanalso, is it just me or does the services gui thing kill the rc system?11:20
nitroxidetalisein: and add what to not load a module ?? :p11:20
hollerdoes anybody know how to log or view logs of logins/logouts ??11:20
taliseinnitroxide: just put a # before the word that has the module11:21
bretticusyokobr: damn small linux may boot from mulitple diskettes11:21
nitroxidekitche: lemme try with "my_blaclist"11:21
taliseinif its listed there11:21
LjLholler: tail /var/log/auth.log11:21
nitroxidetalisein: it's not listed, it's loaded from anothe rplace11:21
taliseinah11:21
nitroxide:)11:21
taliseinwhich module?11:21
hollerLjL: thanks, i will try that out11:21
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physicsnickheya11:21
nitroxideusbcore11:21
physicsnickdid anyone else's konsole fonts change after the last upgrade?11:22
nitroxideand all usb modules11:22
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taliseinholler: /var/log/auth.log11:22
Jowi!sound -> jowi11:22
nitroxideit takes too much power on my laptop11:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sound - - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
kitcheJowi: what are you using gnome I take it?11:22
skeffcan I downgrade my Openoffice.org version ?11:22
physicsnickoops, nevermind, wrong channel11:22
LjLholler: you could probably type "cat /var/log/auth.log | grep gdm" if you only want to see logins made using GDM (i.e. the graphical login screen)11:22
nitroxidereboot, brb11:22
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Jowikitche, fresh dapper install so yeah11:23
pontusenI have a problem with firefox. When i browse with one resolution(1280x1024) firefox won't show sites normal, the text is disorientated. When i higher the resolution everything works as normal. please help me!?11:23
taliseinskeff: man aptitude and look at "forbid-version"11:23
Jowikitche, normally not using gnome but did not want to poke around too much until I got everything working properly11:23
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kitche!esd11:24
ubotuesd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead11:24
kitche!alsa11:24
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems11:24
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TheGateKeeperpontusen: try fiddling with font settings in Firefox under Edit --> Preferences11:24
nyk2005I hav an AP which works in gentoo, but not in ubuntu. its a wirelss ap and dhcp does work on the laptop but not in the ubuntu pc. the key is set same on both.11:25
kitchethere you go Jowi even though esd isn't really deprecated11:25
nyk2005what could it be?11:25
Jowikitche, haven't used esd since I first tried it. first thing to go :)11:25
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LjLkitche: yeah, that factoid doesn't seem very useful, also given that one normally doesn't even know he's "using" esd11:25
kitchenyk2005: is your essid set up right?11:25
nyk2005ubuntu sys uses netgear wg311T11:26
nyk2005yes.11:26
kupesofthow do i find out which tty is a modem (re: hylafax)11:26
nyk2005same on both, all th11:26
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nyk2005e iwconfig11:26
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cyfrHello can anyone help me? I dont understand how to install the icon theme here: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38433725/ dragging it in to theme manager says 'invalid file format'11:26
Jowikitche, hmmm "System > Preferences > Multimedia Systems Selector" does not exist here.11:27
Newbi8I've installed dc++ but it doesn't seem to be working..Hmm..What to do??11:27
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taliseinWhat's dc++?11:28
kitcheJowi: how about volume control then going to Change device11:28
hollerLjL: actually the first one works just fine, thanks =)11:28
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Jowikitche, make no difference unfortunatley11:28
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LjLholler: sure, fdisk is fine, it's just that cfdisk has a kind of friendlier interface. there is also GParted by the way, which is even friendly since it's a Gnome program...11:29
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nyk2005help...11:30
mighty_falconhmmm can someone help me with amarok please, even though i add tracks to it, for egsample just now when i go to collection>added today nothing shows up11:30
Genix|linuxhey guys wondering if anyone has got shockwave working in edgy11:30
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mighty_falconit only shows tracks11:30
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mighty_falconwhen they are in the show all11:30
mighty_falconor say a week ago11:30
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javiolo!skype11:31
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto11:31
mighty_falconanyone?11:31
taliseinwho uses KDE? pfft. only Linus.11:31
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Jowikitche, will have to find alternative music/video players it seems. too bad, I really like rhythmbox and totem-xine11:31
nyk2005i also dont ever use kde excep t11:32
kitcheJowi: I think rhythmbox has it's own sound settings11:32
taliseinwait what's wrong with rhythmbox?11:32
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joeCoThey, anyone tried compiling IceWeasel on amd64 yet?11:32
cyfrCan nobody help me install a icon set?? :(11:32
nyk2005tonce for a year11:32
Jowitalisein, can't get sound out of it11:32
taliseinbut you get sound out of other things?11:32
lupine_85meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee11:32
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lupine_85(uses KDE)11:32
LjLcyfr: have you renamed it, like the last comment on the site suggests?11:32
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kitcheJowi: I would check rythmbox preferences just to make sure it doesn't have it's own setting11:33
taliseinJowi: you get sound out of otherthings? like startup sound?11:33
whysowhat the heck is iceweasel11:33
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taliseiniceweasel is a rebranded firefox11:33
LjLcyfr: i mean, the last comment on the first page. try following it11:33
Jowitalisein, nope, only on specified apps that is not bound to gnome like xmms and mp3blaster11:33
talisein!iceweasel11:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about iceweasel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:33
whysoty] 11:34
taliseinJowi: Are you running Ubuntu or what?11:34
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Jowikitche, yeah, there used to be a way to specify a hardware device instead of default gnome but can't find it anymore in gconf-editor.11:34
Jowitalisein, yep11:34
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Jowitalisein, dapper on a intel core duo mac mini no less :)11:34
Seeker1hi11:35
Seeker1When I run chkrootkit, it says: Checking `lkm'... You have 1 process hidden for readdir command You have     1 process hidden for ps command chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed.  What can I do?11:35
cyfrLjL i tried that, im either doing it wrong or that dosnt work. I copied the folder and it didnt appear in the theme manager icon bit11:35
bluefox83ok, my friend's X will not restart..i am trying to restart it remotely...any ideas?11:35
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SeanTaterSeeker1: hum-never heard of it11:35
bluefox83i have tried /etc/init.d/gdm restart11:35
bluefox83it wont start11:35
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POVaddctbluefox83: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:35
MonsieurBonhello11:35
LjLcyfr: ok, can you type "ls ~/.theme" and paste the output on the pastebin (or here, *only if* it's just one line)11:35
bluefox83POVaddct, i did, there are no entries11:36
MonsieurBondoes anybody know how i get my s-video out to work?11:36
Seeker1SeanTater: thats because you are not experienced in linux11:36
POVaddctbluefox83: the file is empty?11:36
SeanTaterSeeker1: you might try installing klamav or clamav or something similar to it to try to remove it, assuming it exists11:36
taliseinJowi: goto System -> Preferences -> Sound and what do you see?11:36
Seeker1SeanTater: u new to linux obviously11:36
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whysowhy on earth would ubuntu make my swap file 7.5GB when i have 4GB ram?11:36
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SeanTaterSeeker1: not really, I've used it about 3 years11:37
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bluefox83POVaddct, yes11:37
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cyfrLjL ls theme gives nothing, its ment to be themes right? "buuf"11:37
taliseinwhyso: swap files should be a little more than the amount of ram you have11:37
LjLwhyso: the default is probably to make the swap slightly twice as big as the physical RAM. that's what often recommended11:37
POVaddctbluefox83: then the X server didn't even try to start11:37
bluefox83POVaddct, yes it did..i think..11:37
Jowitalisein, a dumbed down version of what used to be useful. Enable ESD (not ticked), Play sys sounds (not ticked), Default sound card: HDA Intel (my ALSA soundcard)11:37
taliseinwhyso: the way suspend works is everything in ram is written to disk. So you need at least as much swap space as you have ram11:37
LjLcyfr: i'm not sure. did you type it exactly as i said? "ls ~/.theme", with the squiggle and the dot11:37
POVaddctbluefox83: maybe the filesystem is full11:38
bluefox83* Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ ok ] 11:38
bluefox83 * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [fail] 11:38
Sprattelkulaanyone else experience resolution problems with the nvidia beta driver? xorg.conf says 1440x900 for my screen.. in gnome i cant set it any higher then 1024x76811:38
taliseinJowi: yeah it looks different than I remember. My esd box is ticked, so try that.11:38
nyk2005dejavu!!11:38
surrealobconf is calling for *libobrender* i can't seem to find it, anyone got some tips?11:38
kitchewhyso: you can remove that swap since you really don't need it11:38
bluefox83POVaddct, no, it's a new installation on a blank hard drive11:38
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cyfrLjl theres no such directory as theme, but there is themes11:38
cyfr.theme and .themes i mean11:38
whysoah ok thanks11:38
LjLSprattelkula: in xorg.conf, have you set your monitor rates to such that will enable such a high resolution? (you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to be guided through that)11:38
taliseinSprattelkula: are you using a television as your display device?11:38
cryptonicdoes anyone know if ubuntu has problems resizing ntfs partitions?11:38
Jowitalisein, only to make you happy ;)11:38
kitchecryptonic: any linux does11:39
LjLcyfr: alright, list .themes then. i'll let you know that i do *not* use gnome, and i just jumped in because i saw nobody else answering.11:39
taliseinJowi: lol. then in terminal ps -A|grep esd and see if its running11:39
Sprattelkulatalisein: using a 19" widescreen tft.11:39
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POVaddctbluefox83: try starting Xorg manually and see if it runs. you can terminate with ctrl-c or your friend with ctrl-alt-backspace11:39
whysoresiezed my ntf partion fine11:39
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cyfrLjL all thats in the folder is "buuf"11:39
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bluefox83POVaddct, my friend can't start X11:40
cryptonicmight do it under windows and then, finally install ubuntu11:40
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SeanTatercryptonic: I imagine it can be problematic, it just got write capability11:40
runaIIRC when I installed ubuntu I did it in a LVM. now I would like to add another disk. how can I know if Im using LVM or not?11:40
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Jowitalisein, if I tick it esd is running but not producing sound (that is normal, I never been able to get esd to play nice with any of my hardware). so now it's ticked off again :P11:40
ScreaminIk1anyone know where lynx keeps its cache? say... when it's dling afile...11:40
POVaddctbluefox83: no, i mean if you start it and it runs, he can terminate it with ctrl-alt-backspace11:40
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SeanTatercryptonic: but it's possible, there are utilities for it, AFAIK11:40
fkdsmhellow all, have installed Ubuntu LTS and this is good to work with11:41
physicsnickScreaminIk1: you mean while it's running? i don't think lynx saves a cache after you close it...11:41
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SeanTaterfkdsm: good11:41
bluefox83POVaddct, yeah..that's great..but we can't get it started..11:41
ScreaminIk1yea. while it's running11:41
fkdsmthx SeanTater11:41
fkdsm:)11:41
POVaddctbluefox83: try sudo Xorg :0 vt0711:41
SeanTaterfkdsm: I'm glad you think so11:41
taliseinJowi: do you have a /dev/dsp?11:41
physicsnickScreaminIk1: hmm, don't know, sorry11:41
POVaddctbluefox83: and watch the error message11:41
SeanTaterfkdsm: The occasional complement is nice to hear among many complaints11:41
fkdsmwell I have been thinking abt this a loong time.. but finally I decided to go for it11:42
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nyk2005help...11:42
fkdsm:))yw SeanTater11:42
ScreaminIk1darn. cuz... i have this file dling across campus... but my account doesn't have the allocated disk space to actually save it...11:42
Jowitalisein, yeah, /dev/dsp exist. I appreciate your help but I will continue to hunt for a solution tomorrow, need some sleep. At least I know that the kernel modules are ok and that some apps get sound.11:42
SeanTaterfkdsm: have you considered other linux distributions too?11:42
ScreaminIk1so i was going to open another ssh to dl the file out of the cache11:42
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ScreaminIk1:)11:42
taliseinJowi: np, goodnight11:42
Jowinight all. thanks goes out to everyone involved! peace11:43
SeanTaterfkdsm: I tried linspire, then ubuntu, and settled (temporarily) on debian, so sometimes you'll like 2 or 311:43
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physicsnickScreaminIk1: you're using lynx to download a large file?11:43
fkdsmwell I have a Windows machine with VM-ware and on that I have PCBSD and Fedora installed and also OpenSuse 10.. I like them all..coz they look so nice and I need some time to get used to them11:43
physicsnickScreaminIk1: why? why not use a graphical browser?11:44
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SeanTaterfkdsm: have you tried kde too?11:44
SeanTaterfkdsm: (Kde is a desktop environment)11:44
physicsnickSeanTater: do you use kde?11:44
physicsnickbecause i use kubuntu11:44
SeanTaterphysicsnick: yes11:44
Newbi8What filesharing-program are people using on Ubuntu?I can't get none to work.....11:44
physicsnickand i love it11:44
SeanTaterphysicsnick: so do I11:44
POVaddctSeanTater: i think opensuse 10 comes with kde11:44
physicsnickoh11:44
ScreaminIk1cuz the campus connection is choked. but i have a cli to an unchocked terminal11:44
fkdsmyep, that is standard install in OpenSuse.. rite now I'm running on Gnome11:44
physicsnicki thought you said you used debian11:44
SeanTaterNewbi8: generally we use bittorrent11:44
LjLcyfr, sorry, i don't think i can help you, not having gnome installed and all. perhaps repeat your question in 10 minutes or so, you may have more luck :(11:44
taliseinScreaminIk1: look in the directory you're downloading too, then look at  "ls -a ~/"11:44
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xerophyte_does anybody know why does the ssh hangs after it ask password, of the server does this .. but i checked the server it does not seem to be hacked. .. anybody know why11:45
SeanTaterNewbi8: but it;s just for downloading ISO's ans stuff that's really upposed to be free11:45
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SeanTaterfkdsm: okay11:45
physicsnicki just got my kubuntu lts cds in the mail today11:45
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physicsnickthey're ever so sexy11:45
fkdsmSeanTater,  :)11:45
SeanTaterfkdsm: whichever you prefer, go for!11:45
_atomicsup11:45
cyfrLjL im not sure what that package was... but I found the same "buuf" icon set on gnome-look and it installed fine, thanks for the help11:45
Wazmhello11:45
Seeker1When I run chkrootkit, it says: Checking `lkm'... You have 1 process hidden for readdir command You have     1 process hidden for ps command chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed.  What can I do?11:45
SeanTater_atomic: hello11:45
taliseinScreaminIk1: look in ~/.links/ or ~/.links2/11:45
Wazmyou tell me ;)11:45
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physicsnicki think i'm gonna order a stack of 10 and leave them in the physics society room for people to take11:45
SeanTaterWazm: hello11:45
Seeker1anyone have any solutions?11:45
Newbi8Seantater:How do I install Sun Java and that Azerus stuff then?I'm going nuts.......11:45
_atomicunsure11:45
physicsnickthat's how i got into linux in the first place, so i figure i should return the favor11:46
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surrealis there a cmd line program that will search the repos?11:46
runaSeeker1: are you running qmail?11:46
physicsnickNewbi8: have you activated the universe and multiverse repositories?11:46
SeanTater!java > Newbi811:46
taliseinsurreal: apt-cache search package11:46
runaSeeker1: I get that message all the time with qmail. Usually is a false alarm11:46
SeanTaterNewbi8: look at what ubotu said11:46
surrealoo11:46
surrealthanks11:46
fkdsmSeanTater,  well.. i would like to update to the newly released Gnome, any tips in howto, or is this included in the Synaptics11:46
kitche!qmail11:46
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:46
Seeker1runa: ok11:47
SeanTaterfkdsm: it should be in edgy11:47
Seeker1runa: not runnuing qmail11:47
TheGateKeeperNewbi8: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox11:47
SeanTaterfkdsm: If you wait, edgy will be released in a few days11:47
taliseinSeeker1: google for LKM trojan recovery?11:47
physicsnickNewbi8: after you do that, follow the installing azureus instructions on the ubuntuguide11:47
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fkdsmyes that is true SeanTater  ... and then an update from LTS to Edgy that is what I will have to do then11:47
Seeker1talisein: its ok! seems like a glitch11:47
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physicsnickNewbi8: don't install azureus from the repos, because it uses a free version of java in which a bunch of stuff is broken11:47
SeanTaterfkdsm: But it's not as stable as dapper (and probably will never be, It's not intended to be)11:48
physicsnickunless it bothers you to use sun java11:48
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ladydoorsurreal: apt-cache search11:48
taliseinphysicsnick: you can set up ubuntu to use sun-java by default.11:48
kitcheSeeker1: I would try the other two tools just to make sure it's not a glitche11:48
SeanTaterfkdsm: sure11:48
LjLSeeker1: the fact that i *said* i *believed* it was a glitch *on my system* doesn't mean it is a glitch. you should probably investigate.11:48
ladydoorsurreal: or you can get into aptitude's ui and press / to search and n to search again11:48
taliseinphysicsnick: its an option in update-alternatives11:48
SeanTaterfkdsm: see ya, got to go11:48
Seeker1kitche: what tools?11:48
SeanTaterfkdsm: :)11:48
fkdsmcu later SeanTater11:48
LjLkitche: rkhunter11:48
kitcheSeeker1: like rkhunter11:48
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Seeker1LjL: investigate how?11:48
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LjLkitche: sorry, that was obviously addressed to Seeker111:48
Seeker1kitche: rkhunter doesnt report anything11:48
LjLSeeker1: google ;)11:49
physicsnicktalisein: doesn't ubuntu use sun-java by default if you just install sun java from the repos?11:49
Seeker1LjL: google says its a glitch11:49
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Seeker1and a short term living process11:49
surrealhmm11:49
kitcheLjL: that's ok :)11:49
LjLSeeker1: ah, so you've checked yourself too. ok then11:49
taliseinphysicsnick: not sure. I suspect not actually11:49
physicsnicktalisein: the problem with azureus from the repos is that it's precompiled with the free java11:49
runaanyone knows how can I know if Im using LVM or not?11:49
kitcheSeeker1: probably how ubuntu modified ps and such most likely11:49
taliseinreally?11:49
physicsnicktalisein: as far as i know, it won't use sun java no matter what you do11:49
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physicsnicktalisein: i think so. that's why on ubuntuguide, it instructs you to wget the actual azureus jar files and set it up from there11:50
adammkhow can i change settings for every user? i'm talking about settings that are usually up to the individual user.11:50
taliseini use rtorrent anyways11:50
zardinukruna: cat /etc/fstab11:50
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taliseinwaaaaaaaaaay more efficient11:50
physicsnicktalisein: that way it uses whatever java your computer is set up with. in this case sun java11:50
surrealobconf needs libobrender.so.1 i have .0.4.0 do i just need to enable a need repo or do i need to compile that?11:50
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physicsnickyeah, i intend to switch over to ktorrent soon11:50
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physicsnickbut i have a torrent in progress using azureus that i've had for over four months now11:51
taliseinlol11:51
taliseincheck out rtorrent11:51
physicsnicki started it on windows, then formatted and installed ubuntu, then formatted and installed kubuntu edgy11:51
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VooDooevening11:51
physicsnickonce this thing FINALLY finishes, then i can switch over to something else11:52
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physicsnickyeah i'll check it out11:52
runazardinuk: I've hda1 mounted as /. This means Im not using it, right?11:52
bluefox83ok..is there an easy way to do this?11:52
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taliseinbluefox83: probably/.11:53
zardinukruna: right, you'd see LABEL=/ if you were using LVM11:53
MonsieurBondoes nobody know how i get my s-video out to work? I got an ATI Card11:53
POVaddctbluefox83: to do what? i think i missed a message11:54
runazardinuk: fuck. and I cannot create a LVM without recreating the FS, right?11:54
taliseinMonsieurBon: which driver are you using? flgrx or the free ones?11:54
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kupesofthow do i find out which tty is a modem (re: hylafax)?11:54
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bluefox83POVaddct, i can't seem to get the xorg.conf right11:54
ompaul!langauge11:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about langauge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
ompaul!language11:54
physicsnickhehe11:54
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:54
ompaulruna, ^^11:54
joeCoTbah. i'm getting fPIC errors compiling iceweasel >_<11:54
MonsieurBontalisein: fglrx11:54
Chamucohi i have been trying this for a while I have an image file from an ext3 partition and I want to copy a backup superblock i was trying w e2fsck but it gives me an error  any pointers ?11:54
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POVaddctbluefox83: can you paste it to pastebin? and the Xorg error message too11:55
physicsnickuse pastebin.ca, not pastebin.com11:55
physicsnickit's way faster11:55
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auslandrSilly question - What the heck is the name of the program that lets you track logfiles on the desktop of your x.org session?  I can't remember the name of it and synaptic isn't giving me any love.11:55
ompauluse pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org11:55
Newbi8physicsnick:thank you.:)11:55
bluefox83error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy11:55
bluefox83Fatal server error:11:56
taliseinMonsieurBon: check out the documents in /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-fglrx11:56
bluefox83could not open default font 'fixed'11:56
POVaddctbluefox83: to pastebin, not here11:56
Jowiback. just wanted to give an update to those who helped me (or tried to) I found the problem!11:56
bluefox83POVaddct, sorry11:56
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taliseinJowi: ?11:56
POVaddctbluefox83: the fonts are missing11:56
bluefox83POVaddct, so how do i install them?11:56
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m3rlinuxho bisogno di aiuto...11:56
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taliseinauslandr: its probably one of the xterms with transparency turned on.11:56
POVaddctbluefox83: wait..11:56
m3rlinuxsi parla solo l'inglese qui?11:57
taliseinauslandr: like eterm11:57
LjL!it11:57
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:57
m3rlinuxgrazie ubotu11:57
m3rlinux:)11:57
Jowitalisein, kitche, crimsun: /etc/asound.conf was not correct. pointed to use 'pcm "hw:0,1"' instead of the real deal "hw:0,0". now all apps get sound.11:57
aixing:D11:57
POVaddctbluefox83: sudo apt-get install xfonts-base11:57
taliseincool11:57
bluefox83POVaddct, it said it was already installed11:57
Ninja562what media player should I use for web videos?11:57
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tuxtuxnotte a tutti11:58
POVaddctbluefox83: then the xorg.conf must be f***ed up11:58
auslandrtalisein: laugh.. That's probably it.. I'll just run eterm with multitail and be done with it.11:58
MonsieurBontalisein: there's just a copyright and a changelog in there11:58
taliseinNinja562: matters which web videos you're talking about.11:58
bluefox83POVaddct, possible11:58
POVaddctbluefox83: can you put it on pastebin?11:58
Jowitalisein, that was a looooong troubleshooting for such a small thing that should have been detected during install time.11:58
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bluefox83POVaddct, give me a quick link please11:58
steamRNinja562: Some prefer totem-gstreamer, others mplayer11:58
ChamucoOr what application could I use to restore the main superblock of a partition?11:58
POVaddct!paste11:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:58
POVaddctbluefox83: read what ubotu said11:59
taliseinMonsieurBon: hrm, ls /usr/share/doc/*fglrx*, there should be a nice README that covers everything in one of them11:59
Jowianyway, I'm happy. will write a howto someday. see you guys around.11:59
steamRNinja562: or totem-xine11:59
Ninja562steamR: How do I tell the difference?11:59
taliseinJowi: file a bug if you would. Its probably because mac-minis aren't super-common11:59
taliseindoh.11:59
Ninja562Is there one that does em all?11:59
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steamRjust install the firefox-plugin from plf, and it will work11:59
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taliseinNinja562: mplayer does most, and the rest are probably Flash12:00
MonsieurBontalisein: there is nothing....12:00
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steamRNinja562: I prefer totem-xine with the firefox plugin. Works best for me12:00
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