[12:06] <primo_it> #salvador
[12:06] <primo_it> aew turma
[12:06] <next_level> when trying to install ubuntu i get stuck at i"starting enterprise volume management system"
[12:06] <LjL> primo_it, sorry?
[12:06] <primo_it> to com uma dificuldade no ubuntu
[12:06] <LjL> !pt
[12:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:07] <primo_it> alguem ta me lendo ai?
[12:07] <Xenguy> cs
[12:07] <LjL> primo_it: si, eu te leo. pero aqui falamos ingles
[12:07] <Xenguy> ooop
[12:07] <Xenguy> s
[12:07] <primo_it> oppps
[12:07] <primo_it> sorry
[12:07] <primo_it> then
[12:07] <LjL> primo_it: in #ubuntu-pt you can speak portugues
[12:08] <PhiBerOpTIc> nothing/ reinstalling ubuntu now
[12:08] <LinuXubuntu> does anoboady can answer with one is the best boot loader for Xubuntu: LILO or GRUB?
[12:08] <PhiBerOpTIc> oh well at least my 260gb drive has now failed :)
[12:08] <LjL> !best
[12:08] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:08] <pak-x> so ive tried to do something with gdm restart, but all what I get is a terminal and what have I to do there, to get a resolution like 1280*800?
[12:08] <dantastic> is there a rc script control program "like chkconfig" for Ubuntu?
[12:08] <LjL> LinuXubuntu: that said, i don't see why you can't use the default, supported and standard Grub
[12:08] <particleman> Linu-I've always been partial to grub, because it plays nice with Windows and is easy to work with
[12:09] <Motoko> how do I reconfigure X?
[12:09] <Xenguy> dantastic: rcconf  ?
[12:09] <LjL> Motoko: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:09] <particleman> but I started Linux on redhat/Fedora, so it could be more familiarity than better design
[12:09] <Xenguy> dantastic: there are others IIRC
[12:09] <dantastic> Thanks Xengu!
[12:09] <Motoko> thanks
[12:09] <Xenguy> dantastic: np
[12:09] <particleman> ok...now for my question
[12:10] <particleman> somewhere along the road of autoupdating Dapper (I've installed no other software other than updates)
[12:10] <particleman> OpenOffice.org broke
[12:10] <particleman> originally installed via apt-get/synaptic
[12:10] <LjL> particleman: broke like what?
[12:10] <Xenguy> particleman: me too - I had to uninstall/reinstall or something like that
[12:10] <particleman> currently if I try and load any of the oo.o apps, the title screen appears, but no status bar
[12:10] <particleman> it chunks along for a bit
[12:10] <particleman> then terminates without any error messages
[12:11] <LjL> particleman: alright, try uninstalling and reinstalling as xenguy said for starters...
[12:11] <pak-x> what can i do to get a resolution like 1280*800? 640*480 realy... you know ;-)
[12:11] <particleman> problem is I don't even know entirely where to look for something broken (I thought it might be a lock file or something that didn't get deleted)
[12:11] <particleman> ok
[12:11] <particleman> I'll try that again
[12:11] <Xenguy> particleman: oh, that's different from my problem, sorry
[12:11] <tritium> particleman: also, try running one of the apps from the command line, and look for error messages
[12:11] <particleman> should I reinstall from apt-get, or from a dl from oo.o
[12:11] <particleman> ?
[12:11] <LinuXubuntu> LjL, I'm newbe in Linux Xubuntu. I'm learning everything now and I didn't know that GRUB is the standart for Xubuntu. I was seeking info about boot loadrs for Linux and almos all info I got was about LILO. But I'll look for GRUB, nos. Thanks!
[12:12] <particleman> alright
[12:12] <particleman> thanks for the help btw
[12:12] <PhiBerOpTIc> well if anybody want to rember bbs dayz you can telnet to hackerzdomain.ath.cx got a bbs there TELNET & EXCALIBUR
[12:12] <LjL> particleman: *always* use APT unless you absolutely can't.
[12:12] <whyso> whats the difference between the normal and alternative CDS
[12:12] <jbroome> or aptitiude
[12:12] <particleman> alright
[12:12] <LjL> particleman: however, to actually uninstall openoffice, you need to uninstall a few packages
[12:12] <dantastic> "sudo which rcconf" doesn't find anything for me. Is it aptgetable?
[12:12] <LinuXubuntu> LjL. thanks! See ya!
[12:13] <LjL> particleman: i'd type "dpkg --get-selections | grep openoffice", uninstall all of them, and then "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org"
[12:13] <particleman> hmm...ok, running it from the command line results in a crapload of API errors
[12:13] <tritium> whyso: the normal one is a live CD and installer.  The alternative is not a live CD, and has a text-based installer.
[12:13] <Jaak> Is there anyone that knows why Flash gets X to crash?
[12:13] <whyso> thanks
[12:13] <LjL> particleman: perhaps also purge when you uninstall. "sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>"
[12:13] <particleman> alright
[12:13] <wastrel> Jaak:  read the flash troubleshooting section of the restrictedformats wiki page
[12:13] <wastrel> !restricted
[12:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <Jaak> Wastrel, i mean Flash editor.
[12:14] <particleman> what's the command line for apt-get to uninstall? :)
[12:14] <whyso> im trying to use the live CD, but it freezes when i try to check the disk, or start/install, ive tried many burn programs and disks... any ideas what coudl be wrong
[12:14] <jrib> particleman: apt-get remove
[12:14] <jrib> ubotu: tell particleman about apt
[12:14] <particleman> thank you
[12:14] <ks1> particleman: apt-get --help
[12:14] <LjL> particleman: and rightly so, since i just todl you :P
[12:15] <LjL> particleman: "sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>" (without the purge, normally, but use it in this case)
[12:15] <ubuntu> how do i connect with the terminal server client in ubuntu to a windows computer
[12:15] <johnficca> dose anyone know a good way to convert mp3 to ogg in ubuntu dapper
[12:15] <johnficca> ?
[12:15] <LjL> !mp32ogg
[12:15] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-6 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[12:15] <jrib> johnficca: mp32ogg
[12:15] <jrib> hmm too slow
[12:15] <johnficca> hey thanks
[12:15] <whyso>  im trying to use the live CD, but it freezes when i try to check the disk, or start/install, ive tried many burn programs and disks... any ideas what coudl be wrong
[12:15] <particleman> alright, purging oo.o now
[12:16] <ubuntu> how do i connect with the terminal server client in ubuntu to a windows computer
[12:16] <Jaak> Anyone here that get flash en fireworks to work without X crashing?
[12:16] <LjL> johnficca: do note that converting mp3 to ogg necessarily results in a quality loss.
[12:16] <Pegger> whyso, you try running the integrity check
[12:16] <Morrowyn> whats the difference between aiglx and xgl ?
[12:16] <whyso> yes, and it freezes also
[12:16] <tritium> johnficca: indeed.  lossless-to-lossless conversion is not a good idea
[12:16] <LjL> !xgl
[12:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:16] <Pegger> whyso, maby something is wrong with your computer
[12:17] <whyso> just says "loading" indefinetly
[12:17] <tritium> johnficca: lossy-to-lossy, rather ;)
[12:17] <whyso> i am on raid 0, could that be the prob?
[12:17] <johnficca> yeah I know
[12:17] <Pegger> whyso, try running the integrity check in a diffrent computer
[12:17] <whyso> ok, thanks
[12:17] <johnficca> but I don't know what else to do
[12:17] <Morrowyn> uhm that just says what xgl is, but what is the difference between xgl and aiglx
[12:17] <LjL> johnficca: well, what is the problem?
[12:17] <leakd>  n8
[12:18] <tritium> johnficca: what's preventing you from using the mp3s the way they are?
[12:18] <Morrowyn> are they two totally different things or one and the same....
[12:18] <LjL> Morrowyn: no, it also says that for xgl related stuff you should join #ubuntu-xgl
[12:18] <johnficca> I don't what to use mp3's on ubuntu
[12:18] <tritium> johnficca: s/what/want?  Or, what do you mean?
[12:18] <johnficca> its not legal to play them
[12:18] <johnficca> on linux
[12:18] <emmanuel_> how can i connect to a Windows PC
[12:18] <LjL> johnficca: depends. what country are you located in?
[12:19] <johnficca> usa
[12:19] <tritium> johnficca: I guess that depends on where you live
[12:19] <emmanuel_> ?
[12:19] <whyso> the feds are so gonna get you john :)
[12:19] <LjL> johnficca: well, in order to convert mp3 to ogg, you're breaking the same patents that prevent you from legally playing them, though.
[12:19] <mattik> Hello. I tried boot with dapper live/install cd. I cannot boot in graphical mode with normal mode or safe mode.
[12:20] <johnficca> yeah I know... but I just don't want to support mp3
[12:20] <johnficca> I hate the DRM
[12:20] <LjL> johnficca: could you conceivably convert your MP3s to a lossless format? they'd take up quite a bit of space, but you'd not lose quality
[12:21] <LjL> johnficca: i bet there's no DRM in the MP3 you have.
[12:21] <gnomefreak> ogg ;)
[12:21] <LjL> and i'm not sure DRM and MP3 are even related
[12:21] <Kyral> MP3 can't have DRM
[12:21] <gnomefreak> LjL: yes and no. DRM doesnt depend on mp3
[12:21] <Kyral> The format is incapable of it
[12:21] <jeff_> anyone here using a broadcom bcw43xx wireless on hp/compaq 64-bit laptop, I can't get mine to work
[12:21] <wildchild> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. Help
[12:21] <particleman> oh gods
[12:21] <particleman> jeff
[12:21] <Kyral> (Why do you think they made all these new formats? :P)
[12:21] <particleman> don't even bother
[12:21] <particleman> get a new card
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Kyral: iirc some dvds use mp3 for the sound files
[12:22] <johnficca> to ask another question, anyone out there running an ibm t40 what wireless problems...cuz I am
[12:22] <dantastic> where might i find the rcconf program?   sudo which rcconf doesnt find it.
[12:22] <particleman> you will be doomed to endless hours of frustration with ndiswrapper, bc43xx
[12:22] <particleman> and eventually you'll just want to shoot yourself
[12:22] <mattik> My Computer is Fujitsu Siemens SCENIC T And ATI 9250 PCI. I don't get X. So I cannot install Dapper in my Computer
[12:22] <tritium> !rcconf
[12:22] <bbrazil> dantastic: this isn't redhat. update-rc.d
[12:22] <ubotu> rcconf: Debian Runlevel configuration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.17 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 112 kB
[12:22] <particleman> I found this out twice
[12:22] <jeff_> its a brand new laptop! and the card works fine with knoppix, fedora, etc
[12:22] <jeff_> I just prefer ubuntu
[12:22] <particleman> you're kidding
[12:23] <particleman> you actually got a Broadcom card to work under Linux?
[12:23] <particleman> and under Fedora?
[12:23] <particleman> seminoob that I may be
[12:23] <jeff_> automatically worked/works under both
[12:23] <Cody`> dhclient keeps overwriting my resolv.conf with nameserver 172.16.157.2 so no domains resolve. How can I figure out why it started doing this and how can I fix it?
[12:23] <slop2> what do i do when i see this?!?  :::  configure: error: Missing X11 includes or libraries. Use --x-includes=DIR --x-libraries=DIR
[12:23] <particleman> I am impressed
[12:23] <LjL> slop2: install xorg-dev i guess
[12:23] <next_level> everyone agrees,  mac os x is the best right?
[12:24] <dantastic> thx bbrazil!
[12:24] <particleman> ...
[12:24] <jeff_> ubuntu 6.0.0 has precompiled support but it's not working
[12:24] <particleman> it's purdy, I will give it that
[12:24] <LjL> next_level: this is an Ubuntu support channel. please take offtopic questions or discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:24] <particleman> and it certainly has its niceties
[12:24] <particleman> and...poop
[12:24] <particleman> ok
[12:24] <Cody`> dhclient keeps overwriting my resolv.conf with nameserver 172.16.157.2 so no domains resolve. How can I figure out why it started doing this and how can I fix it?
[12:25] <particleman> uninstall/reinstall results in the same problem
[12:25] <xavier> y does ubuntu run fsck everrry time it reboots for all my fat32 drives .. and doesnt fix any of them? whts the point? .......... anyway .. how do i run fsck manually and correct the errors? it says they are mounted
[12:25] <particleman> next suggestion?
[12:25] <johnficca> next_level, I think mac used to be good, but not the new intel ones i know cuz I had one
[12:25] <LjL> xavier: what *is* the problem it tries to fix?
[12:25] <next_level> hmm
[12:25] <LjL> xavier: non-matching backup of something, by any chance?
[12:25] <UKMatt> has anyone put on Firefox RC2?
[12:25] <saelynh> hi evryone :)
[12:25] <next_level> mac is freebsd
[12:25] <next_level> ubuntu is debian
[12:25] <next_level> what do we do?
[12:25] <LjL> next_level, johnficca, please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:25] <eXistenZ> Hello, I installed java, but still ff doesn't use it =/
[12:25] <johnficca> sorry
[12:25] <particleman> oh...
[12:26] <particleman> hmm
[12:26] <tritium> eXistenZ: you used the ubuntu packages?
[12:26] <eXistenZ> tritium, yup
[12:26] <xavier> yes
[12:26] <particleman> a typical error from starting oo.o
[12:26] <xavier> over and over and over again
[12:26] <particleman> [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for SelectTextureSGIS
[12:26] <ubutom> eXistenZ, have you done sudo update-alternatives --java ?
[12:26] <xavier> LjL: yes
[12:27] <tritium> eXistenZ: sun-java5-plugin?
[12:27] <eXistenZ> tritium, ja
[12:27] <johnficca> my problem I have is my laptop ibm t40, the cisco wireless card just dosen't work sometimes
[12:27] <johnficca> anyone have the same problem
[12:27] <johnficca> ?
[12:27] <xavier> LjL: u know what to do?
[12:27] <LjL> xavier: you need to run fsck manually, but i don't remember the parameters. hold on
[12:28] <xavier> ok
[12:28] <xavier> !fsck
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <xavier> !unmount
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <Daemonik> Hey the fglrx driver is broken with Dapper.
[12:28] <anon32> there's a section on DialUpModemHowto that's incorrect for the current release of Ubuntu, should I replace it with instructions for 6.06 and remove the original or should I keep both?
[12:28] <jrib> eXistenZ: did you close all instances of firefox and open it again?
[12:28] <Daemonik> No one has addressed this issue, I see nothing about it in the wiki.
[12:28] <eXistenZ> jrib, yup
[12:29] <tritium> xavier: don't play with ubotu, please.  Try that stuff in a query.
[12:29] <Comrade_S> can someone tell me the command for installing the gnome desktop on an ubuntu server install?
[12:29] <jrib> eXistenZ: what does 'which firefox' say?
[12:29] <tritium> Daemonik: did you search malone for a bug report?
[12:29] <particleman> ah ok
[12:29] <eXistenZ> /usr/bin/firefox
[12:29] <Daemonik> malone?
[12:29] <particleman> found the solution, I think
[12:29] <ubutom> eXistenZ, have you done sudo update-alternatives --config java ? sorry, forgot the config ;D
[12:29] <tritium> !malone
[12:29] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[12:30] <anon32> anyone?
[12:30] <particleman> looks like the latest revisions of the ATI driver buggered things
[12:30] <LjL> xavier: sudo dosfsck -ar /dev/whatever      where whatever is the concerned partition
[12:30] <particleman> so a revert to the old version should fix things
[12:30] <eXistenZ> jrib, *     3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:30] <jrib> eXistenZ: how about:   ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*java*
[12:30] <whyso> ok i tested my CD on another computer and its fine, but when i try to check it on mine, or use it, it freezes, any ideas what could be wrong?
[12:31] <slop2> LjL, thanks, that kinda fixed it...now i'm getting this : configure: error: Missing gdk_imlib library
[12:31] <xavier> ty .. will it unmount itself?
[12:31] <tritium> slop2: you need to install the development library packages that you need
[12:31] <slop2> LjL, and i've already installed python-gdk-imlib-1.2
[12:31] <eXistenZ> jrib, ls: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*java*: No such file or directory
[12:31] <slop2> tritium, which ones are they?  i installed python-gdk-imlib-1.2
[12:31] <LjL> slop2: install libgdk-imlib-dev
[12:32] <LjL> slop2: you need the "-dev" packages when you compile, not the binary packages
[12:32] <slop2> LjL, ah ok
[12:32] <LjL> !compile > slop2
[12:32] <jrib> eXistenZ: apt-cache policy sun-java5-plugin   , does it say Installed?
[12:32] <LjL> xavier: no, unmount it first
[12:32] <Comrade_S> can someone tell me the command for installing the gnome desktop on an ubuntu server install?
[12:32] <xavier> how?
[12:32] <eXistenZ> jrib, Installed: (none)
[12:32] <next_level> xavier, #ubuntu-fr
[12:32] <jrib> Comrade_S: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <LjL> xavier: sudo umount /wherever/it/is/mounted
[12:32] <jrib> eXistenZ: install it
[12:32] <xavier> ok
[12:33] <particleman> yeehah!
[12:33] <particleman> success!
[12:33] <whyso> i tested the live CD on another computer but it freezes when i start it on mine, any ideas on what could be wrong?
[12:33] <Comrade_S> thanks jrib
[12:33] <jrib> Comrade_S: np
[12:33] <particleman> well thanks for the attempted help folks
[12:34] <particleman> and I learned something in the process
[12:34] <whyso> (its not my DVD drive, other liveCDS have worked for me)
[12:34] <slop2> LjL, thanks :))
[12:34] <particleman> if anyone else asks, it's a problem with the ATI drivers
[12:34] <particleman> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033
[12:34] <particleman> that thread has got the fix
[12:34] <particleman> I'm off
[12:34] <xavier> whts the saqfest option?
[12:34] <xavier> 1) Copy original to backup
[12:34] <xavier> 2) Copy backup to original
[12:34] <xavier> ?
[12:34] <kralcymerej> can anyone help me get a .asx streaming audio file to stream? Im running streamtuner and it just dosn't seem to be cutting it?
[12:34] <particleman> have fun folks
[12:34] <xavier> safest
[12:34] <LjL> xavier: 1
[12:35] <LjL> xavier: choose 1
[12:35] <Jahman> hi
[12:35] <xavier> ok
[12:35] <jrib> kralcymerej: try mplayer with w32codecs
[12:35] <whyso>  i tested the live CD on another computer but it freezes when i start it on mine, any ideas on what could be wrong?
 thanks jrib
 Comrade_S: np
 well thanks for the attempted help folks
 and I learned something in the process
 (its not my DVD drive, other liveCDS have worked for me)
[12:35] <LjL> !paste
[12:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:35] <tritium> whyso: that wasn't necessary
[12:35] <kralcymerej> also, as a complete newbie to linux what is the "best" media player to use (I'm using xmss and it seems ok but...)?
[12:35] <whyso> sorry, didnt mean to paste it all
[12:36] <whyso> was trying to paste it into the text box then edit it
[12:36] <LjL> kralcymerej: what's wrong with the included one?
[12:36] <tritium> whyso: okay, no worries
[12:36] <Motoko> How do I set the PW on the default Keyring?
[12:36] <jrib> kralcymerej: there is no "best", but mplayer, vlc, and xine are all pretty good imo as media players.  A good music player to try is amarok
[12:37] <virtual-stargaze> Anyone else use a wireless card with the Ralink rt2500 chipset?
[12:37] <tritium> !best
[12:37] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:37] <eXistenZ> jrib, Works now. Thank you guys :)
[12:37] <kralcymerej> so mplayer will allow me to "stream" as well as listen to the mp3 on my system?
[12:37] <holycow> Amaranth, wb
[12:37] <LjL> kralcymerej: you have Rhythmbox, for audio, and Totem, for audio/video, included. if they're there, it's probably because they're thought to be the easiest for newcomers
[12:37] <jrib> kralcymerej: yes, but you may prefer something else to manage a library of music
[12:37] <codeFiend> hey all.
[12:37] <codeFiend> I am trying to print a pdf file from shell, but for some reason it's failing.
[12:37] <kralcymerej> thanks for the help guys!
[12:38] <codeFiend> If I open the same pdf file in Evince and print from there, it prints fine
[12:38] <codeFiend> but when I do lp -d PrinterName file.pdf, it just hangs there
[12:38] <MarcN> codeFiend: lpr -Psomeprinter foo.pdf    should work
[12:38] <whyso> i tested the liveCD on another computer, worked there but freezes right after the intial boot screen, any ideas why? (other live CDS have worked)
[12:39] <LjL> !install > whyso
[12:40] <eXistenZ> jrib, Do you know how can I remap some keys?
[12:40] <Motoko> so I'm trying to upgrade from 5.10 to the latest Ubuntu and I do "gksu "update-manager -c -d""
[12:40] <Amaranth> holycow: hey
[12:40] <Motoko> and it asks for the password to the default keyring
[12:40] <Motoko> I put in my password and it tells me wrong password
[12:40] <jrib> eXistenZ: no, I don't know the best way to do that
[12:40] <Motoko> any suggestions?
[12:40] <Blinker> i'm having trouble burning DVDs lately. this is a new development since i was able to burn just fine before =\
[12:40] <jrib> eXistenZ: depending on what you want to do, take a look at system > preferences > keyboard (shortcuts)
[12:40] <anon32> !allcaps
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about allcaps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <anon32> the hell, there's no factoid on all caps?
[12:41] <eXistenZ> jrib, I want to remap my Caps Lock key to ESC
[12:41] <tritium> anon32: try that nonsense in a query with ubotu
[12:42] <anon32> tritium, wha?
[12:42] <jrib> eXistenZ: yeah, never tried to do that.  Maybe someone else can help though
[12:43] <anon32> question: what's my best option for getting flash working on Ubuntu?
[12:43] <hayum> Hey guys what is the correct permissions to place on /home to make it non viewable?
[12:43] <jrib> ubotu: tell anon32 about flash
[12:43] <jrib> hayum: 700
[12:43] <anon32> hayum, 770
[12:43] <J-_> how can i ssh into my server so i have write permissions? or should i be using ftp?
[12:44] <anon32> jrib, that's nice and all, but is there something that the bot doesn't know? I've seen that page hundreds of times
[12:44] <hayum> thats not right jrib, anon32, if i cd / then type cd it says permission denied
[12:44] <jrib> anon32: the restricted wiki page explains flash installation.  You need flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse
[12:45] <anon32> jrib, again... I'm asking if there's alternatives... I know that the Adobe one is buggy
[12:45] <J-_> =\
[12:46] <jrib> anon32: not really, you can try gnash
[12:46] <LjL> !libflash-swfplayer
[12:46] <ubotu> libflash-swfplayer: GPL Flash (SWF) Library - stand-alone player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[12:46] <wildchild> does anyone know for this one: checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details.  (I was trying to install gnash)
[12:46] <virtual-stargaze> Nevermind, my card works out of the box on Ubuntu!
[12:46] <tritium> wildchild: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:46] <Shish> have you looked in config.log for more details?
[12:47] <LjL> anon32, clearly, what we believe to be the "best option" is the one given by the bot. it might not be the best for you, but simply asking about the "best option" doesn't give us many clues
[12:47] <J-_> i can ssh into my server, i just can't write anything to it because of the permissions? can someone help me...?
[12:47] <spinboson> anyone know if there's any way to get macos-like hot corners in ubuntu?
[12:47] <LjL> !xgl > sinboson
[12:47] <LjL> !xgl > spinboson
[12:47] <gemidjy> I get  acpi-support depends on acpid (>= 1.0.4-1ubuntu4); when upgrading to edgy
[12:47] <tritium> spinboson: brightside
[12:47] <wastrel> ubunto = teh aw3s0m3
[12:47] <spinboson> brightside?
[12:47] <anon32> jrib, mm... the gnash installation is convoluted and for some reason, there's no deb for it..
[12:47] <tritium> gemidjy: edgy questions in #ubuntu+1
[12:47] <jrib> hayum: I thought you meant chmod'ing /home/user_name
[12:47] <gnu666> moin moin zusammen #
[12:47] <tritium> spinboson: yes, it's a package you can install for what you want
[12:48] <spinboson> okay
[12:48] <spinboson> thanks!
[12:48] <jrib> anon32: right
[12:48] <jrib> anon32: what's wrong with adobe's flash player for you?
[12:48] <anon32> yep.. I'm still looking for all the libs I need to compile it :-(((
[12:48] <wildchild> tritium what does the build-essential do
[12:48] <tritium> !b-e
[12:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:48] <anon32> jrib, audio-video sync error....
[12:49] <tritium> see that above, wildchild
[12:49] <spinboson> tritium: easy to do, or lots of dependencies?
[12:49] <wildchild> tritium: k
[12:49] <bruenig> anon32, http://www.welcomehome.org/gnash/releases/gnash_0.7-1_i386.deb
[12:49] <J-_> i can ssh into my server, i just can't write anything to it because of the permissions? how can i get the permissions to write to it through ssh?
[12:49] <anon32> bruenig, are the dependencies available on Ubuntu?
[12:49] <tritium> spinboson: easy, a few dependencies, but you likely already have them installed
[12:49] <spinboson> excellent
[12:49] <spinboson> thanks again
[12:49] <bruenig> anon32, I haven't installed it. I just found that deb
[12:49] <chrisX`> what is the difference between 2.4 and 2.6 kernels?
[12:49] <ompaul> here are another batch of ban removals :-/ one moment
[12:49] <codeFiend> marcn: thanks... trying
[12:50] <bruenig> if they aren't it won't install, might as well give it a try
[12:50] <Anveo> How do you minimize the rdesktop program when it is in fullscreen?
[12:50] <ompaul> chrisX`, the 2.6 is lighter faster better newer and stuff
[12:50] <tritium> 2.6 is less filling _and_ tastes great
[12:50] <chrisX`> :) but there must be a reason, why still 2.4 kernels are beeing released ^^
[12:50] <ompaul> chrisX`, dpes more
[12:51] <bruenig> ChrisBradley, stability and old hardware
[12:51] <chrisX`> hm i see
[12:51] <spinboson> tritium: I don't think it does the 'workspace view' does it?
[12:51] <ompaul> chrisX`, some people hang on to old kernels, a feeling of stability, and less changes
[12:51] <bruenig> chrisX`, that last statement was for you trusty tab completion failed me
[12:52] <tritium> spinboson: I don't know, sorry
[12:52] <chrisX`> hehe ok
[12:52] <ompaul> chrisX`, think the word "production server" where there is money and lots of it involved
[12:52] <spinboson> does anyone know of anything that does?
[12:52] <chrisX`> ah ok...
[12:52] <chrisX`> somebody here with working hostap drivers? (wlan)
[12:53] <ompaul> !wireless > chrisX`
[12:53] <ompaul> chrisX`, have a lok at that message from the bot
[12:53] <anon32> nope, failed
[12:54] <ClayG> anyone know where to get good icon pictures for /usr/share/pixmaps?  I want a bunch of different looking folders
[12:54] <wastrel> ClayG:  gnome-look.org maybe
[12:54] <wastrel> also art.gnome.org
[12:55] <next_level> how do you render ubuntu sexy?
[12:55] <adammk> k i had two partitions on my comp, one had windows and one had ubuntu, i deleted ubuntu's partition and resized windows to fill it in, but now windows doesn't recognize the new space partitioned to it. how do i fix this plz?
[12:55] <ClayG> i checked that out but they look like they only have icon packages, like themes for the whole system
[12:55] <chrisX`> ompaul: my problem is i wanted some with injection.. but i cant compile them... then i installed edgy eft to compile them, wont work also.. grr :)
[12:55] <anon32> hmm.... it needs kdelibs... eww...
[12:55] <chrisX`> ompaul: perhaps i should search a live-cd security distro, for my  wardriving stuff, and use my nice ubuntu for the other things
[12:56] <ompaul> next_level, by using it
[12:56] <bruenig> adammk, that is a windows question
[12:57] <bruenig> adammk, perhaps ##windows
[12:57] <adammk> k thnks didn't know there was a windows channel
[12:58] <chrisX`> hey dont delete your ubuntu partition! :D
[12:59] <wastrel> too late
[12:59] <ClayG> nah
[12:59] <bruenig> :|
[12:59] <chrisX`> stone him
[12:59] <chrisX`> xD
[12:59] <ClayG> is there any otyher place to get pixmaps?
[12:59] <boink> such is life
[12:59] <wastrel> ClayG:  how about images.google.com
[12:59] <bruenig> ClayG, google
[12:59] <ClayG> in thunderbird is there a way to make the default response a "top post" instead of a "bottom post"
[12:59] <ClayG> bruenig, wastrel : you forgot "man"
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> ClayG: I believe that's in the composition section of preferences.
[01:00] <bruenig> ClayG, that is not a real "support" question
[01:00] <jeffreyb> I installed edgy beta... on first run on update it did a upgrade-dist to 6.10... I this still beta or am I running actual 6.10?
[01:00] <ClayG> tonyyarusso, awasome thank you
[01:00] <boink> edgy is still beta
[01:00] <ClayG> bruenig, ouch, did you notify an op?
[01:00] <boink> edgy should be released around 25 october
[01:00] <chrisX`> i have a i686 (pentium) pc, will compiling my own kernel give me (much?) more speed?
[01:01] <tritium> jeffreyb: you're runnning edgy in it's latest state, which is not beta, but not released
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> jeffreyb: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[01:01] <boink> not really
[01:01] <bruenig> ClayG, no but that is an explanation of why the bad advice, you seemed to be taking a shot at us with the man comment, so I was merely explaining why we answered the way we did
[01:01] <OHN0ES> hey everyone - I recently started experiencing trouble burning CDs/DVDs. when i try to burn, the mouse intermittently locks up, along with the burning process and wont unmound the device without a hard reboot
[01:01] <OHN0ES> unmount*
[01:01] <jeffreyb> thanks guys
[01:01] <ClayG> bruenig, heheh i was.  It just seems that when someone uses the "google" advice normally they say man also it was sort of an inside joke i guess
[01:02] <ClayG> bruenig, just kidding but that is OT so lets cut it out
[01:02] <OHN0ES> any chance someone knows how to fix that?
[01:03] <bruenig> OHN0ES, that happens to me also, I assumed it was a memory issue
[01:03] <bruenig> since I don't have very much
[01:03] <OHN0ES> not a mem issue in my case. i have 1G ram and it does it on a fresh boot
[01:04] <OHN0ES> no one, eh?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> OHN0ES: it can still be a mem issue. ps aux will tell you if something is using a high amount of ram (including the player you are using)
[01:05] <gnomefreak> OHN0ES: do you have a swap partition?
[01:05] <OHN0ES> yep, 2G
[01:06] <gnomefreak> OHN0ES: what app are you using?
[01:06] <GeO> hid3, i'm having trouble getting a working coppy of ubuntu 6.06 for amd 64 installed
[01:06] <OHN0ES> nautilus and gnome bake
[01:06] <OHN0ES> same reaction with both
[01:06] <gnomefreak> both cause same issue?
[01:06] <tritium> GeO: are you using the 6.06.1 installer?  The intial release had some issues.
[01:06] <gnomefreak> OHN0ES: have you tried running cdrecord on its own?
[01:06] <tritium> initial, even
[01:07] <OHN0ES> no, not familiar withthat route
[01:07] <GeO> i'm using whatever version is downloadable from the servers now
[01:07] <GeO> is there a text file on the cd that tells what version it is?
[01:07] <GeO> if so i'll check that now
[01:08] <OHN0ES> gnomefreak: would file size have anything to do with it? i am trying to burn a 4.2G archive
[01:08] <GeO> yacc, i've got 6.06.1
[01:08] <gnomefreak> OHN0ES: do you have any kde apps installed?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> OHN0ES: yes
[01:08] <OHN0ES> goodness, no
[01:09] <gnomefreak> OHN0ES: k3b works when others dont ;)
[01:09] <OHN0ES> i'll give it a chance.
[01:09] <bruenig> k3b is so smug
[01:09] <gnomefreak> OHN0ES: also man cdrecord. since both use cdrecord it might be an issue with that
[01:09] <bruenig> with its superior abilities, so arrogant
[01:10] <gnomefreak> it helped me out a few times so i have it as backup
[01:11] <next_level> http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=165773
[01:11] <dtolj> anybody know if theres a program for generating xorg.conf in Ubuntu?
[01:11] <GhostFreeman> What's an ideal xmodmap setting for a us-101 keyboard
[01:11] <bruenig> !xconfig
[01:11] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:11] <GeO> on booting on the cd, i choose install ubuntu, then i go to a scren with the ubuntu logo written on it, and a progress bar, then it lists what it's loading or installing, gets to the end of the progress bar then go's to a dark screen with a blinking dash in top left corner and then stops, nothing hapns from ther no matter how long i wait
[01:11] <mighty_falcon> im in xchat how come i dont see the user list :S?
[01:11] <mighty_falcon> nvm silly me
[01:11] <ks1> mighty_falcon: drag it out so you can
[01:12] <mighty_falcon> yep :) didnt notice
[01:12] <mighty_falcon> tnx
[01:12] <mortalguy> Is there a difference between "symbolic links" and the links created using `link`? How do I link a folder?
[01:12] <GeO> anybody have this install prob and can help?
[01:12] <dtolj> ubotu: thanks
[01:12] <ubotu> Thanks for the help!
[01:12] <bruenig> lol
[01:12] <bruenig> !bot
[01:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:13] <pixelmonkey> I have an X11 window that has misbehaved and made itself so tiny that I can't resize it.  Is there any way for me to force a certain window size for this X11 window while the app is running?
[01:13] <bruenig> I didn't know it had a thanks factoid, that is hilarious
[01:13] <SpaceFrog> How can I get XChat to use my default browser (Firefox) when opening links, instead of old-school mozilla?
[01:13] <bruenig> especially considering it will generally only be triggered when people don't know it is a bot and they will be confused as to why he is thanking them
[01:14] <gnomefreak> SpaceFrog: set it in update-alternatives
[01:14] <SpaceFrog> oh, i'll see if i can work that out. thanks
[01:15] <Flannel> SpaceFrog: update-alternatives x-www-browser
[01:15] <gnomefreak> SpaceFrog: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[01:15] <ClayG> anyone know of a tool that will rotate or randomly load splash screens and/or GDM themes?
[01:15] <ClayG> so each time I login i see a different theme? kinda spice things up:
[01:15] <SpaceFrog> thanks, that got it :)
[01:16] <wjoe2001> my computers tries to load the desktop and then fails, dropping my back to the gdm login screen
[01:16] <holycow> Amaranth, *ping*
[01:16] <wjoe2001> in the log files, it says client 2 rejected from local host
[01:17] <gnomefreak> wjoe2001: what version of ubuntu?
[01:17] <wjoe2001> 6.06.l1
[01:17] <MrKeuner> hi, for my PC Dapper A I do everything on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP and when I send something from another PC, Dapper B. It prints some settings on the printer instead of whatever I send. settings include but are not limited to -12345X@PJL SET PAPERTYPE = NORMAL ON, @PJL SET DENSITY = 3, etc.
[01:17] <wjoe2001> dapper drake
[01:17] <no0tic> ipkungfu script in edgy is corrupted, anyone can help me?
[01:18] <Flannel> no0tic: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[01:18] <gnomefreak> wjoe2001: when you are in tty try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop than same command but start instead of stop
[01:19] <caminomaster> hello
[01:19] <caminomaster> how can I turn my screen?
[01:19] <bruenig> !hi
[01:19] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:19] <gnomefreak> turn you screen?
[01:19] <wjoe2001> so I would type, "sudo /etc/inti.d/gdm start" ?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> wjoe2001: stop first but yes
[01:19] <mighty_falcon> does anyone know of a reposatory or .deb file for the new amarok? apt-get only seems to have an outdated one
[01:20] <ciscosurfer> caminomaster: turn your screen off?
[01:20] <mikm[laptop] > ciscosurfer I think he means rotate
[01:20] <caminomaster> yes, turn screen 90 left or right or inverted
[01:28] <wjoe2001> o ok, hopefully that works, i had a great setup and didnt want to have to reinstall
[01:28] <gnomefreak> caminomaster: put your hands on the screen and push one of the sides the way you want it
[01:28] <bruenig> mighty_falcon, what version number are you looking for?
[01:28] <caminomaster> Ja Ja
[01:28] <ciscosurfer> mikm[laptop] : ah
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> bruenin: im going for 1.4.3
[01:28] <gnomefreak> caminomaster: thats what rotating you screen means you gonna have to give more details
[01:28] <keltorsori> any especially knowledgeable people on tonight that might be able to help me hunt a bug in edgy?
[01:28] <LjL> !edgy
[01:28] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:28] <bruenig> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php
[01:28] <gnomefreak> keltorsori: yes #ubuntu+!
[01:28] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:28] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> !schedule
[01:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:28] <caminomaster> gnomefreak, I mean to rotate screen 90 to anyside
[01:28] <Con-fuze-ed> Can anyone help me out... trying to install ubuntu 6.10 beta and it doesn't appear to support LVM... can anyone confirm?
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> bruenig, i trid using that
[01:28] <caminomaster> to set it vertical...
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> but i got an error
[01:28] <Flannel> Con-fuze-ed: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[01:28] <bruenig> mighty_falcon, what error?
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> i was not able to run apt-get update
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> let me try running it again
[01:28] <Con-fuze-ed> Flannel: thanks
[01:28] <bruenig> mighty_falcon, you must not have added the repo right
[01:28] <gnomefreak> did you add the word deb to it?
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> yes i did
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: what is the error?
[01:28] <caminomaster> Is not hard 2 understand: rotate screen left or right
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> ok it worked now, do i just go with sudo apt-get uprade amarok after?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> caminomaster: like on a cube? or you just want to move the screen left or right
[01:28] <caminomaster> like lcd's let do, but with a normal screen
[01:28] <bruenig> mighty_falcon, sudo apt-get install amarok
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: just upgrade
[01:28] <bruenig> oh, you already have it?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> or install it if not already installed
[01:28] <caminomaster> not like cube, inclinate
[01:28] <Flannel> gnomefreak: he wants to rotate I think. 90 degrees
[01:28] <caminomaster> yes, Flannel
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> i got this when it ried to upgrade
[01:28] <spcmnspf>  I'm trying to install bugzilla on Ubuntu linux distro, and am having some trouble. I was wondering if I could get a few pointers in the right direction
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> The following packages have been kept back:
[01:28] <mighty_falcon>   amarok amarok-xine gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[01:28] <MrKeuner> for PC Dapper A, I do everything on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP and when I send something from another PC, Dapper B. It prints some setting like strings on the printer instead of whatever I sent. those printed strings include but are not limited to -12345X@PJL SET PAPERTYPE = NORMAL ON, @PJL SET DENSITY = 3, etc. WHat might be the problem?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Flannel: yes he said that but i dont know of a way to do that witha  crt screen
[01:28] <LjL> !paste > mighty_falcon
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: install it
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> it is already installed i am just trying to update to 1.4.3
[01:28] <caminomaster> crt... exactly
[01:28] <Flannel> caminomaster: I believe nvidia cards can do it... Let me do some googling
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-xine gstreamer....\
[01:28] <caminomaster> I've seen that in win$
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: install it
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: take my word for it i know that error all too much
[01:28] <npodges> i just installed edgy and updated everything to the latest. why can i not install mplayer?
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> lol ok
[01:28] <caminomaster> but I have no N-vidia: I have ati...?
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:28] <mighty_falcon>   amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> E: Broken packages
[01:28] <gnomefreak> npodges: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> and when i try to install that dependency
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> it sais it is already installed
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:28] <bruenig> !info libvisual-0.4-0
[01:28] <ubotu> Package libvisual-0.4-0 does not exist in any distro I know
[01:28] <LjL> mighty_falcon, have you received the message from Ubotu? please try to keep pastes on one line, or else use the pastebin
[01:28] <jkku3> !libgtk
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <jkku3> !lib
[01:28] <bruenig> libvisual is in my repos
[01:28] <LjL> !msg the bot
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[01:28] <gnomefreak> jkku3: stop fishing please
[01:28] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak, no luck with the apt-get -f
[01:28] <david_> how do I unmount an iso?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> bruenig: they are in all
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: what did it say?>
[01:28] <jkku3> gnomefreak i'm not doing what you think i'm doing so quit it
[01:28] <gnomefreak> david_: umount
[01:29] <gnomefreak> jkku3: stop fishing with the bot
[01:29] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak, after running apt-get -f i receieved the same erorr when trying to install
[01:29] <david_> thanks
[01:29] <gnomefreak> jkku3: you were fishing
[01:29] <jkku3> no i'm not
[01:29] <jkku3> do you not recognize a typo when you see it?
[01:29] <bruenig> jkku3, what were you trying to type?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> jkku3: !bleh than @bleh is fishing
[01:29] <gnomefreak> !*
[01:29] <jkku3> thought the thing had info on libgtk
[01:29] <gnomefreak> thats not a package
[01:29] <jkku3> i could have sworn it was
[01:30] <gnomefreak> jkku3: try the package name
[01:30] <LjL> ok, "you were fishing" "no i'm not" is not related to Ubuntu support. please move this away to #ubuntu-offtopic, or just stop it.
[01:30] <gnomefreak> jkku3: its libgtk2.0-0 or something like that
[01:30] <jkku3> i'll just google it
[01:30] <bruenig> or apt-cache search it
[01:30] <jkku3> heh, you mean i'd have to type the ENTIRE name of the package?
[01:30] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak, any ideas?
[01:30] <LjL> jkku3: there is no package called "libgtk". try "apt-cache search libgtk" on your machine, or "find libgtk" on the bot
[01:30] <gnomefreak> jkku3: yes those numbers are not version numbers they are package numbers
[01:31] <Flannel> caminomaster: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/xrandr  is the package
[01:31] <iCod> Anyone know how to use a vcast phone (verizon) via usb in ubuntu? like managing songs?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: remove amarok and amarok-xine
[01:31] <funkja> How would I change my keyboard key mappings? My . key on my numpad doesn't work. It just causes a system beep.
[01:31] <caminomaster> ... I've tried xrandr and don't works
[01:31] <Lam_> !schedule
[01:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:31] <david_> heh, I mounted at one location multiple times
[01:32] <david_> now I am trying to unmount what I mounted
[01:32] <killown> youtube not work more?
[01:32] <david_> and I am getting "device is busy"
[01:32] <david_> when I attempt to unmount
[01:32] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: after they are removed try again and when i get back i will ask someone somthing i have a thought on your issue
[01:32] <funkja> david_: is it a hard drive? or external device
[01:32] <slide> How do I upgrade my ubuntu system? Is everything required for it to become 6.06 contained in apt-get?
[01:32] <LjL> david_: do you have any Nautilus window open on that mount, or some program that might be accessing it, or even a shell prompt inside the mount?
[01:32] <david_> it is an ISO
[01:32] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak, ok great tnx
[01:33] <LjL> !upgrade > slide
[01:33] <funkja> something is using it
[01:33] <slide> ty
[01:33] <caminomaster> I'll be back...
[01:33] <relain> can anyone help me with internal wireless?
[01:34] <LjL> !anyone
[01:34] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:34] <LjL> !wifi > relain
[01:34] <iCod> Does anyone know how to use a usb mp3 phone in ubuntu?
[01:34] <relain> i have ndiswrapper installed and it: ndiswrapper -l seems to think my driver is working
[01:34] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak, let me know once your back
[01:34] <nilats> On my laptop, the CD ROM drive broke and I am attemping to install Ubuntu through other means -- the only option I have discovered is PXE booting which is impossible in my scenario -- does anyone have any other suggestions (I was hoping for a install from flash drive)
[01:35] <wjoe2001> now it says, cannot display this video mode
[01:36] <andresmujica> gnomefreak. i've got the amarok + libvisual-0.4.0 issue.. i've got to disable amarok-latest repo and i could update amarok to 1.4.3 from kde-latest repo
[01:36] <LjL> nilats: do you have another operating system (e.g. Windows) installed? if so, you could try installing through an emulator such as VMWare
[01:36] <relain> hey nilats there's definitely documentation for installing from other media on the ubuntu site
[01:36] <relain> (sorry that's not very specific but it's there)
[01:36] <nilats> Currently on windows but I wish to run Ubuntu as my main OS, not emulated
[01:37] <codeFiend> ugh. this is odd. I can print text files from shell fine, but as soon as I try to send a pdf or ps file to the printer with lp or lpr, the job starts, but the printer doesn't print it
[01:37] <codeFiend> it just sits in the queue forever.
[01:37] <LjL> !install > nilats
[01:37] <nilats> The other methods dont apply in my case -- I am trying to boot make a boot disk on a USB drive (other cases try to make a LiveCD on USB drive)
[01:37] <LjL> nilats: yes, i was thinking about simply using VMware to get it installed, and then run it natively
[01:38] <nilats> What do you mean LjL
[01:38] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: what version of kdebase do you have?
[01:38] <LjL> nilats: i mean what i said. set VMWare to use a *real* rather than a virtual partition, and install.
[01:38] <nilats> Would that not mean repartitioning my drive, and having 2 OS's on it?
[01:38] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak, hmmm honestly the latest thats in the reposatoy i would say as i jsut installed it today
[01:39] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: apt-cache policy kdebase
[01:39] <knoppix__> are there any secrets to getting a Dell Docking station to work with a Dell laptop
[01:39] <LjL> nilats: well, yes it would. but wouldn't *any* means of installing involve that? (unless you plan to remove windows, that is)
[01:39] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak, Installed: 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27
[01:39] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:39] <gnomefreak> thought so
[01:40] <gnomefreak> ok hold on let me see if it was ever built for that (i doubt it)
[01:40] <nilats> I do plan to remove
[01:40] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak, would it be better if i jsut go with the kubuntu-base package?
[01:40] <bruenig> !info kde-core
[01:40] <ubotu> kde-core: the K Desktop Environment core modules. In component main, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:40] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: no just hold on you may have to install kubuntu 3.5.3
[01:41] <mighty_falcon> ok
[01:41] <gnomefreak> one of the depends are kdebase >=3.5.3-1
[01:41] <mlaci> it seems to me that there's no clearlooks-cairo theme in dapper. i'd love to use it and i see it everywhere on the web. why it isn't included yet?
[01:41] <relain> so why doesn't my card support scanning? but in windows it surely scans
[01:42] <nilats> Herm!
[01:42] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: ok lets do this the easy way :) brb let me get something
[01:42] <nilats> I will attempt this VMWare method, since then inside ubuntu I can just format the old windows partition -- thanks.
[01:42] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak, lolz ok
[01:43] <Crippy-Boy> Lo all
[01:43] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: add this repo to your sources.list file deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main
[01:43] <jak_> hello everyone, any one know where i could find this usb-serial.h file?
[01:44] <Bearcat> does anyone know if Xchat has any kind of logging feature.  I can't seem to find it.
[01:44] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: done
[01:44] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: when its added and saved run sudo apt-get update
[01:44] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:44] <gnomefreak> it should update all kde and amarok :)
[01:45] <caminomaster> hello
[01:45] <caminomaster> I've seen that xrandr don't rotate in xorg...
[01:45] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: perfect thats what i was thinking to do as well, i dont know why i went with kde-base to begin with
[01:46] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: kdebase is always installed with kubuntu
[01:46] <Crippy-Boy> Where would i find the source to login
[01:46] <Crippy-Boy> >
[01:46] <caminomaster> bye
[01:46] <mikm[laptop] > Bearcat it does
[01:46] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: on top of that kubuntu-base is also installed?
[01:46] <josh_> what is the command for looking at my port ports?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: for me to know the version of kubuntu you are using kdebase gives it kubuntu-desktop version is like 2.1
[01:46] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: yes
[01:46] <josh_> netstat -plunt?
[01:46] <mikm[laptop] > Bearcat Settings --> Preferences
[01:46] <Bearcat> ty mikm
[01:46] <Bearcat> I will check it
[01:47] <mikm[laptop] > Bearcat It's under the Chatting header
[01:47] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: do you get gpg errors when you sudo apt-get update?
[01:47] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: nop iit went just fine, its now upgrading
[01:47] <gnomefreak> k
[01:47] <gnomefreak> you should be good to go :)
[01:47] <Crippy-Boy> Does anyone know?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> if amarok doesnt get updated install it
[01:47] <mighty_falcon> yep :) tnx alot, appreciate it
[01:48] <knoppix__> josh_: i dont know the normal command, but if you have nmap installed then nmap -v -sT 127.0.0.1 will get the job done
[01:48] <Bearcat> mikm[laptop] ,   tyvm, I found it
[01:48] <mikm[laptop] > np, Bearcat
[01:49] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: lol i just found it amarok 1.4.3 is in dapper-backports :( sorry
[01:49] <Bearcat> tc all
[01:49] <nilats> What was that filesystem made especially for flash drives?
[01:50] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: i was abotut o ask you that as i read on some post on the ubuntuforums, but none the less better this way as alot of the other apps were outdated
[01:50] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: im guesging kubuntus reposatories are more up too date?
[01:50] <codyman> i ran dpkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and setup my monitor, telling it also to support 1280x1024, but even after restarting I cannot switch into that resolution even though xorg.conf shows it in there
[01:50] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: 3.5.2 isnt outdated
[01:50] <mighty_falcon> isnt the latest kde 3.5.5 though?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: the repo i gave you are speicial
[01:50] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: not for dapper
[01:50] <slide> Im upgrading to 6.06, and its asking me if I want to replace my /etc/default/tmpfs, should I?
[01:51] <cpk2> codyman: did xorg recognize the correct horiz sync and vert refresh for your monitor?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: just like gnome 2.14 is in dapper
[01:51] <gnomefreak> 2.16 is in edgy
[01:51] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: aha i see, is kubuntu using 3.5.5?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> noone will build repos for that. our kubuntu team is good at that :)
[01:51] <eddiej> hi. i've installed nvidia-glx several times before and all has worked. i installed yesterday, and i cant get it to work, the xorg-error states that i have an ati-card. some other people also have that error. what can i do
[01:51] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: only in edgy
[01:52] <anon32> flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work
[01:52] <anon32> it fails to retrieve the package
[01:52] <jak_> does edgy on amd64 run 32bit apps?
[01:52] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: ok i see, well this should be good as well
[01:52] <bruenig> jak_, they said that it would at least in the beginning of development, but I haven't heard anything since then
[01:53] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: i am planning to upgrade to edgy once it is fully release in a few weeks anyways
[01:53] <gnomefreak> anon32: multiverse enabled?
[01:53] <jak_> i couldn't see much difference between dapper and edgy when running the livecd
[01:53] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: 10ish days
[01:53] <jak_> i thought they were putting xgl/compiz stuf on edgy too
[01:53] <anon32> gnomefreak, yes... I get error "automatic installation failed due to network or upstream changes"
[01:53] <gnomefreak> jak_: most people wont see it
[01:53] <gnomefreak> anon32: ah on dapper?
[01:53] <eXistenZ> I think my ATI card isn't using its acceleration mode in ubuntu
[01:53] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: good good, i was really tempted to upgrade right now but decided to wait until it is fully out of beta
[01:53] <anon32> gnomefreak, yes
[01:53] <eXistenZ> How can I check?
[01:53] <anon32> am I missing something?
[01:54] <anon32> hell, does adobe have a public beta for flash 9?
[01:54] <slide> Im upgrading to 6.06, and its asking me if I want to replace my /etc/default/tmpfs, should I?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> anon32: no that sounds like adobes issue
[01:54] <gnomefreak> anon32: no
[01:54] <anon32> :-(((
[01:54] <gnomefreak> slide: yes
[01:54] <slide> gnomefreak, thank you :)
[01:54] <gnomefreak> anon32: from what i hear expect it next year some time
[01:54] <unlucky1> is there a program like dvdshrink for linux
[01:54] <Spanoony> Hello, guys... Xubuntu will only allow me to have my display at 800x600, but my laptop should allow me to bump it up to 1200x860 widescreen
[01:54] <gnomefreak> slide: ysw
[01:54] <anon32> gnomefreak, if ever..
[01:54] <Spanoony> Any ideas how I can force the display mode?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> yw even
[01:54] <anon32> !restrictedformats
[01:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:54] <slide> ;)
[01:55] <Shish> anon32: there's a blog where you can keep track of development, and join in with the hundreds of other people demanding a beta, despite the post being on a totally different topic and ending with "PS. please stop asking for betas"
[01:55] <jak_> unlucky1: k9copy -- or even run dvdshrink through wine.. lots of guides around
[01:55] <anon32> Shish, lol?
[01:55] <anon32> well... can I have a public alpha? LOL
[01:55] <unlucky1> thanks jak
[01:55] <Shish> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[01:56] <Spanoony> Guys, I'm not asking for beta!!!
[01:56] <Spanoony> Xubuntu will only allow me to have my display at 800x600, but my laptop should allow me to bump it up to 1200x860 widescreen
[01:56] <Spanoony> Any ideas how I can force the display mode?
[01:56] <eXistenZ> Which is better totem or xine?
[01:56] <nilats> brb testing.
[01:56] <anon32> are there instructions for installing flash manually?
[01:56] <anon32> eXistenZ, xine
[01:56] <anon32> by a lot
[01:57] <gnomefreak> !flash > anon32
[01:57] <eXistenZ> anon32, I want to switch from totem to xine. How can I do that?
[01:57] <eXistenZ> !flash
[01:57] <anon32> gnomefreak, nothing on that page
[01:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:57] <panagos> with ubuntu liveCD 5.04, how can i set up a dial-up connection?
[01:57] <jak_> apt-get install xine
[01:57] <anon32> eXistenZ, apt-get install xine
[01:57] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: totem isnt an engine xine is
[01:57] <anon32> hell, just apt-get install mplayer
[01:57] <gnomefreak> use totem-xine
[01:57] <gnomefreak> if you like totem
[01:57] <anon32> yea, gstreamer is the engine... which happens to such too
[01:57] <knoppix__> Spanoony: check /etc/X11/xorg.conf to be sure that your resolution is in your config file
[01:58] <Spanoony> knoppix__, how do I do that?
[01:58] <eXistenZ> anon32, xine no such package :)
[01:58] <jak_> xine plays movies full screen over 2 screens with xinerama.. thats the only reason its better!
[01:58] <gnomefreak> anon32: yes it is
[01:58] <anon32> eXistenZ, :-P
[01:58] <anon32> get totem-xine
[01:58] <gnomefreak> anon32: Flash for i386 manual install
[01:58] <gnomefreak> whole section on it
[01:58] <knoppix__> Spanoony: from command line - sudo less /etc/X11/xor.conf
[01:59] <anon32> ah wait, sorry... being stupid
[01:59] <winterweaver> hi all
[01:59] <medon> hi
[01:59] <knoppix__> Spanoony: sorry its /ect/X11/xorg.conf
[01:59] <Spanoony> :)
[01:59] <Spanoony> Thanks
[01:59] <medon> anybody help me?
[01:59] <winterweaver> How can I know where another filesystem is mounted?
[01:59] <Spanoony> Knoppix, it's not listed
[01:59] <Shish> mplayer does xinerama too... when xinerama works at all :-/ for me it broke on the second ubuntu release, and after a year or so with two monitors plugged in and one being dead, I gave up...
[01:59] <Spanoony> How can I add it?
[02:00] <winterweaver> I have xinerama
[02:00] <medon> i have erro from xchat with "* *** Couldn't look up your hostname"
[02:00] <knoppix__> Spanoony: open a text editor and just type it in
[02:00] <winterweaver> ^_^
[02:00] <knoppix__> you have to sudo when you open the editor or else it wont let you save
[02:00] <panagos> with ubuntu liveCD 5.04, how can i set up a PSTN connection?
[02:01] <eXistenZ> When I try to uninstall totem it always prompts me to uninstall 'ubuntu-desktop' to approve?
[02:01] <jackson> my bluetooth keyboard won't work after a recent ugprade. when I click the "connect" button and do a hidd --search it just says "searching..." for a half-second and then terminates. it's a logitech MX 5000
[02:01] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: when i try to run amarok now nothing happens, maybe i need to reboot?
[02:01] <LjL> eXistenZ: wel, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on just about everything. that's normal
[02:02] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: sudo apt-get install amarok
[02:02] <gnomefreak> make sure its installed
[02:02] <gnomefreak> properly
[02:02] <bruenig> mighty_falcon, rebooting shouldn't help
[02:02] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: i received the same error msg
[02:02] <medon> i have erro from xchat with "* *** Couldn't look up your hostname"
[02:02] <mighty_falcon> as earlier
[02:02] <gnomefreak> it will if hes using kde atm
[02:02] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: what error?
[02:02] <medon> help me please
[02:02] <Shish> medon: are you sure that's xchat, and not a message from the server?
[02:03] <jak_> medon, ignore it, doesn't matter
[02:03] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: i dont think you have the right amarok repo
[02:03] <mighty_falcon> amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[02:03] <knoppix__> anybody know the secret to getting a display to work with a docking station?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: log out and back in
[02:03] <mighty_falcon> yep brb
[02:03] <medon> Shish, that from server
[02:03] <LjL> gnomefreak: ?
[02:03] <mikedep333> hello, I need to setup a wireless adapter as an access point (master mode I think), is there a graphical utility to do this?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> LjL: ?
[02:03] <bruenig> computer voodoo, just log out and see if that helps
[02:03] <LjL> gnomefreak: ... log out and back in for a dependency that's not installable?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> if hes using kde 3.5.2 loging out is needed
[02:04] <eXistenZ> LjL, So I can just remove it?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> LjL: he upgraded kde
[02:04] <gnomefreak> kde wont upgrade til log out
[02:04] <LjL> eXistenZ: yes, though you'll possibly need to re-install it when you upgrade to a newer distribution
[02:04] <medon> Shish, that from server
[02:04] <LjL> gnomefreak: i see. still, APT shouldn't care about those issues, should it?
[02:04] <bruenig> oh did he upgrade, I checked out there for a while
[02:04] <gnomefreak> LjL: amarok does
[02:05] <jak_> medon: ignore it. it's not important, the server just uses your ip address instead.
[02:05] <knoppix__> mikedep333: i've never set one up as an access point before but man iwconfig is a good starting poing
[02:05] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: same thing :(
[02:05] <gnomefreak> and if hes not usign the right repos for it
[02:05] <mikedep333> knoppix_:yeah
[02:05] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: hold on take the aarok repo out of your sources.list and keep it open
[02:05] <medon> jak_: ok jack thanks u
[02:06] <mighty_falcon> ok
[02:06] <OHN0ES> gnomefreak: k3b seems to be doing the trick. thx.
[02:06] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: add this to it deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-143 dapper main
[02:06] <gnomefreak> OHN0ES: yw
[02:06] <mikedep333> hmm, looks like kwifimanager can help me
[02:06] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: now remove --purge amarok
[02:06] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: same probelm
[02:06] <gnomefreak> than install it
[02:06] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: did you use apt-get update
[02:07] <mighty_falcon> yep
[02:07] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: sudo apt-get remove --purge amarok
[02:07] <gnomefreak> pastebin the error please
[02:07] <mighty_falcon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26943/
[02:07] <winterweaver> can anyone tell me what the command is to find out where a filesystem is mounted. it's a samba filesystem
[02:07] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: when you try to purge it?
[02:08] <mighty_falcon> nop i purge it
[02:08] <mighty_falcon> everything is fine
[02:08] <mighty_falcon> then when i try to install amarok
[02:08] <mighty_falcon> i get that
[02:08] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: you removed and purged it?
[02:08] <jak_> winterweaver: mount -l will show all mounts
[02:08] <mighty_falcon> yes
[02:08] <gnomefreak> ok good
[02:08] <winterweaver> jak_, thx
[02:08] <variant> jak_: mount on its own will show all mounts
[02:08] <jak_> winterweaver: the samba ones will be shown as smbfs
[02:08] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: apt-cache policy libvisual-0.4-0
[02:08] <LjL> !info libvisual-0.4-0
[02:08] <ubotu> Package libvisual-0.4-0 does not exist in any distro I know
[02:08] <LjL> gnomefreak: ^
[02:09] <gnomefreak> apt-cache policy libvisual
[02:09] <mighty_falcon> Wazm: Unable to locate package libvisual
[02:09] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: Unable to locate package libvisua
[02:09] <eXistenZ> LjL, What is your favorite mp3 player?
[02:10] <LjL> eXistenZ: no real favorite. i use Amarok because i'm a KDE user, and it ships with Kubuntu
[02:10] <eXistenZ> Ah, you use kubuntu
[02:10] <fouressence> Hi, after trying to compile gtk from source, and everyone telling me just to install with apt-get, I've finally decided to go that way.  However, sudo apt-get install gtk2-dev doesn't work for me.  What's the appropriate way?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: apt-cache policy apt-cache policy libvisual-0.4-0
[02:10] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: that works here
[02:11] <LjL> gnomefreak, that package's in edgy, but not in dapper. guess he still has some edgy package of Amarok in the APT cache? perhaps an apt-get clean...
[02:11] <mighty_falcon> hmmm
[02:11] <mighty_falcon> should i go with apt-get clean?
[02:11] <virtual-stargaze> Anyone know how to set it so that a laptop's LCD display is turned off when the lid is closed without sending the laptop to sleep/hibernate?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: no
[02:12] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: hold on
[02:12] <mighty_falcon> ok
[02:12] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: this isnt good let me check something
[02:12] <mighty_falcon> sure
[02:12] <medon> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[02:13] <medon> how to have rule to make install
[02:13] <variant> medon: try ./configure first
[02:13] <LjL> medon: are you running make install from the directory your source code is located? (whatever that is)
[02:13] <jrib> medon: what are you trying to compile?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: apt-cache libc6
[02:13] <gnomefreak> oops
[02:13] <gnomefreak> apt-cache policy libc6
[02:13] <mighty_falcon> : Invalid operation libc6
[02:13] <medon> variant, i was type ./configure before
[02:13] <LjL> medon: and it succeeded?
[02:13] <variant> medon: and did it exit succsessfully?
[02:13] <pxeboot> winterweaver: do you mean where it's mount point is, or on what physical computer it is mounted?
[02:13] <medon> yes
[02:14] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: apt-cache policy libc6
[02:14] <LjL> medon: did you also type "make"?
[02:14] <variant> medon: are you in the source directory?
[02:14] <mighty_falcon> Installed: 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[02:14] <medon> im try now to type make now ok
[02:14] <gnomefreak> thought so
[02:14] <variant> medon: you haveto type in order: ./configure && make && make install
[02:14] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: do you have gnome or xfce or any other desktop installed?
[02:14] <variant> medon: make install as root
[02:14] <virtual-stargaze> Guess no one here runs Ubuntu on a laptop...:(
[02:14] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  yep gnome and kde are both installed
[02:14] <variant> virtual-stargaze: i do
[02:14] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: log into gnome
[02:15] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  and try it from there?
[02:15] <slide> How do I see if a package is installed?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: no
[02:15] <variant> virtual-stargaze: and what you are saying is what my laptop does
[02:15] <LjL> slide: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[02:15] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: log into gnome we have some work to do
[02:15] <slide> thank you
[02:15] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:15] <gnomefreak> brb while your loggin in
[02:15] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  lol ok brb then
[02:15] <mighty_falcon> k
[02:16] <sooki> did the breezy update yesterday install a firewall of some kind that wasn't there previously?
[02:16] <medon> ok thanks all
[02:16] <variant> virtual-stargaze: click system > preferences >  power management > actions
[02:16] <virtual-stargaze> variant, mine doesn't, it blanks the screen and the backlight is left on...rather annoying when you're trying to listen to streaming music as you go to sleep...
[02:16] <variant> virtual-stargaze: click system > preferences >  power management > actions
[02:17] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: ok back
[02:17] <virtual-stargaze> Options are: Do Nothing, Blank Screen, Suspend, Hibernqate
[02:17] <eXistenZ> Where can I find information on how to install xgl driver for my 9200 ATI?
[02:17] <variant> virtual-stargaze: yup
[02:17] <variant> virtual-stargaze: you want blank screen right?
[02:17] <virtual-stargaze> Currently set to blank screen
[02:17] <LjL> !xgl > eXistenZ
[02:17] <jesus> http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?shipit
[02:17] <virtual-stargaze> I want the display turned off
[02:17] <sooki> or is there a way to see if something's blocking a port?
[02:18] <virtual-stargaze> Not just blanked
[02:18] <jesus> please sing it this petition
[02:18] <variant> virtual-stargaze: ah, that really depends on your laptop
[02:18] <virtual-stargaze> Dell CPx
[02:18] <variant> virtual-stargaze: acpi support is very badly implemented on some laptops
[02:18] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: sudo apt-get remove --purge libqt3-mt
[02:18] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: let me know when its done
[02:18] <virtual-stargaze> Windows has no problem turning the display off
[02:18] <LjL> jesus, you shouldn't probably do that kind of thing on here. perhaps advertize on #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <variant> virtual-stargaze: yeah, its a problem caused by a windows written dhdt in the bios
[02:19] <LjL> jesus: besides, your link is broken
[02:19] <variant> virtual-stargaze: microsoft i mean not windows
[02:19] <variant> virtual-stargaze: there is one standard acpi standard but microsoft implements it in a broken way and bios manufacturers who write to ms specification write broken acpi
[02:20] <fredericm> hi
[02:20] <gnomefreak> LjL: hes been banned for that before dont go to him links please
[02:20] <gnomefreak> LjL: its unsafe
[02:20] <variant> virtual-stargaze: if its written to the intell spec then it shoudl be fine
[02:20] <LjL> gnomefreak, unsafe?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: yes i know its alot to remove
[02:20] <virtual-stargaze> Thing is, I didn't have this particular problem when running Mandrake 10.0
[02:20] <jesus> http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?shipit is not broken
[02:20] <gnomefreak> LjL: he was in here spamming a virus link
[02:20] <jesus> is a petition to try mantain ubuntu shipir for free
[02:21] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  278 packages to be exact :P
[02:21] <relain> AAARRGH!
[02:21] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: all kde stuff is being removed
[02:21] <relain> i hate iwconfig!
[02:21] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: reinstall it?
[02:21] <LjL> gnomefreak, ok, but then i'm not sure my konqueror will get any such virus, nor am i sure i will actually give it permission to run it ;)
[02:21] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: were going with imbrandon's idea
[02:21] <gnomefreak> LjL: just warning ;)
[02:21] <virtual-stargaze> Of course...with Mandrake I couldn't stream Windows media files, use my wifi card, access the windows network and share files, and a whole other list of issues. Ubuntu is great
[02:22] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: i would have to reconfig everything in kde right?
[02:22] <Bensr20det> can anyone tell me where to change the splash screen I get once I log in?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: when its done remove the amarok and the kde repos from your sources.list file
[02:22] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: yes you have a bit before that happens
[02:22] <mighty_falcon> ok
[02:22] <indref> How do you quit man.
[02:23] <gnomefreak> infinito: /quot
[02:23] <gnomefreak> oops
[02:23] <gnomefreak> indref: /quit
[02:23] <indref> "Pattern not found, press RETURN"
[02:23] <gnomefreak> indref: what are you trying to quit?
[02:23] <indref> man
[02:23] <gnomefreak> just the q
[02:23] <indref> Isn't that what I said?
[02:24] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: as to the kde repos im not sure as i just did a apt-get install kde-core from one of the fedault repos
[02:24] <variant> virtual-stargaze: yeah, it might not be that probelm, thats just he most likley
[02:24] <variant> :)
[02:24] <indref> Wow, why doesn't Ctrl-C work?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> indref: q
[02:24] <Amaranth> holycow: ->PM
[02:24] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: dont install anything kde yet
[02:24] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: let it finish removing everything
[02:24] <variant> indref: just press q
[02:24] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  no i mean as to remove the kde repos from sources.list
[02:24] <mighty_falcon> it is done removing
[02:24] <indref> Linux needs some standards and consistancy...
[02:25] <SUSaiyan> is there any reason vi in ubuntu behaves strangely? like placing D and R and stuff when pressing arrow keys
[02:25] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: ok remove the amrok and the new kde repo i gave you
[02:25] <variant> indref: lol, you just need to learn how to use bash
[02:25] <mighty_falcon> ok done
[02:25] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: and anyother kde related repo other than ubuntu.com repos
[02:25] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: while your in there uncommnt the backports repos
[02:26] <Bensr20det> can anyone tell me how to change the splash screen you see after you log in??
[02:26] <mighty_falcon> they say breezy though?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> Bensr20det: install splash-screen-manager
[02:26] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: huh?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: change them to dapper
[02:26] <SUSaiyan> any way i can get vi to behave normally again?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: replace breezy with dapper
[02:26] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: all the other repos say dapper right?
[02:26] <mighty_falcon> yep
[02:27] <mighty_falcon> ok done
[02:27] <gnomefreak> ok good
[02:27] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get update mighty_falcon
[02:27] <mighty_falcon> lol yeah
[02:27] <mighty_falcon> that would be a waste
[02:27] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: heres the fun :)
[02:27] <wastrel> SUSaiyan:  vi on ubuntu is vim
[02:27] <mighty_falcon> ok updated
[02:27] <wastrel> SUSaiyan:  try intsalling nvi
[02:27] <SUSaiyan> i know its vim
[02:27] <SUSaiyan> nvi?
[02:28] <wastrel> nvi is another vi clone that doesn't have all the vim extensions
[02:28] <wastrel> i was thinking you have a differetn problem than you probably actually have.
[02:28] <pak-x> !display
[02:28] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:28] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: what should i run next
[02:28] <slide> Does anyone have proftpd installed? Its complaining about IPv6, which Im not using, but it seems like its setup to ONLY use IPV6
[02:29] <wastrel> SUSaiyan:  your arrow keys don't work in vim?
[02:29] <SUSaiyan> they do, just not in insert mode
[02:29] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: sudo apt-get isntall kubuntu-desktop amarok amarok-xine
[02:29] <SUSaiyan> they place a new line with D or something then
[02:29] <gnomefreak> install **
[02:29] <wastrel> they're not supposed to work in insert mode
[02:29] <wastrel> oh my htey do owrk in insret mode in vim
[02:29] <wastrel> weird.
[02:29] <wastrel> i've never even tried.
[02:30] <SUSaiyan> hehe
[02:30] <mighty_falcon> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:30] <mighty_falcon>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: ksysguard but it is not going to be installed
[02:30] <SUSaiyan> works on my gentoo box
[02:30] <SUSaiyan> even in the suse vm
[02:30] <wastrel> SUSaiyan:  try http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=1290
[02:30] <spcmnspf> I'm having some errors trying to setup bugzilla in my install: Creating a new default bugzilla database...
[02:30] <spcmnspf> DBD::mysql::db do failed: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost'                                                              to database 'bugzilla' at /usr/share/bugzilla/debian/postinst-db.pl line 357, <S                                                             TDIN> line 2.
[02:30] <spcmnspf> DBD::mysql::db do failed: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost'                                                              to database 'bugzilla' at /usr/share/bugzilla/debian/postinst-db.pl line 357, <S                                                             TDIN> line 2.
[02:30] <spcmnspf> dpkg: error processing bugzilla (--configure):
[02:30] <spcmnspf>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[02:31] <spcmnspf> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:31] <spcmnspf>  bugzilla
[02:31] <spcmnspf> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:31] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  seems like the same error as earlier but with ksysguard
[02:31] <spcmnspf> could anyone give me come pointers for this
[02:31] <SUSaiyan> wastrel: thanks :D
[02:31] <gnomefreak> spcmnspf: use pastebin
[02:31] <SUSaiyan> though im not sure if it works, its not me whos having the problem ;)
[02:32] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: same lib?
[02:32] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  nop this time ksysguard
[02:32] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: pastebin the full error please
[02:32] <spcmnspf> so I put the error into pastebin?
[02:33] <mighty_falcon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26945/
[02:33] <wong1> morning all
[02:33] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: sudo apt-get -f install    << just that no package name or nothing
[02:34] <wong1> Are there any Ubuntu staffers here?
[02:34] <crimsun> "staffers"?
[02:34] <spcmnspf> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/849
[02:34] <wong1> I have a problem withmy nick that I need help with?
[02:34] <mighty_falcon> same problem gnomefreak
[02:34] <crimsun> wong1: /msg nickserv help
[02:34] <wong1> my nick should be "wongy" but today I'm "wong1" :-(
[02:35] <MrKeuner> for PC Dapper A, I do everything on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP and when I send something from another PC, Dapper B. It prints some setting like strings on the printer instead of whatever I sent. those printed strings include but are not limited to -12345X@PJL SET PAPERTYPE = NORMAL ON, @PJL SET DENSITY = 3, etc. WHat might be the problem?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> wong1: /nick wongy
[02:35] <wong1> gnomefreak: I tried that but it doesn't seem to be changing?!
[02:35] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: ok hold on a minute are you sure all kubuntu/kde repos are out of your sources.list
[02:35] <SUSaiyan> wastrel: okay, thanks, it worked :D
[02:36] <blazemonger> I've been using Ubuntu and I got Rosegarden working smoothly
[02:36] <gnomefreak> wong1: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:36] <MrKeuner> wong1: bc there is another user with that nick
[02:36] <blazemonger> !Rosegarden
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Rosegarden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <mighty_falcon> they should be
[02:36] <wong1> gnomefreak: OK tah
[02:36] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: ok try to remove it
[02:36] <blazemonger> !Rosegarden4
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Rosegarden4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: /msg ubotu
[02:36] <qq1010> how to insatll azureus?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> qq1010: sudo apt-get install azureus
[02:37] <wastrel> yay
[02:37] <blazemonger> gnomefreak: once Linux has more professional video editing/midi sequencing/music production software it will be the downfall of Microsoft
[02:37] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: is it removing?
[02:37] <mighty_falcon> nop
[02:37] <mighty_falcon> same thing
[02:37] <mighty_falcon> i cannot seem to install kubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <qq1010> sudo apt?
[02:37] <mighty_falcon> it needs ksysuard but when i try to add that it wont let me
[02:38] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: what is it giving you on kubuntu-desktp
[02:38] <kitche> blazemonger: umm linux does have more professional video editing it costs money though
[02:38] <mighty_falcon> kubuntu-desktop: Depends: ksysguard but it is not going to be installed
[02:38] <qq1010> is it i need to insatll jav first?
[02:38] <Pegger> i am confused at how pam works, I want to tie pam toghter with /etc/passwd for openvpn
[02:38] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: it sounds like you didnt get rid of everything with that like it was supposed to or you have kde repos still
[02:38] <blazemonger> kitche:oh that's a good thing that it's available..what are some titles?
[02:38] <blazemonger> i'm willing to pay for higher quality midi sequencing software for linux
[02:38] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: i doublechecked for kde repos, their all gone
[02:39] <blazemonger> it's the perfect platform
[02:39] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:39] <nilats> When there is an error in the wiki page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick), how would I go about informing someone to fix it
[02:39] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: why do we still have qt apps installed
[02:39] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: where?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: sudo apt-get remove --purge libqt3-mt
[02:40] <mighty_falcon> nop no luck
[02:40] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: does it still want to remove things?
[02:40] <mighty_falcon> same thing
[02:40] <mighty_falcon> nop
[02:40] <eXistenZ> Does anyone recommend a better multi IM client than gaim?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> ok easy ewnough to fix
[02:40] <mighty_falcon> it does not remove anything
[02:40] <mighty_falcon> Package libqt3-mt is not installed, so not removed
[02:41] <kitche> blazemon: audacity unless you mean making the music
[02:41] <kitche> blazemon: the video editing programs are kinda harder to find but big companies use linux for some of their editting
[02:41] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: add this repo to the list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main   than sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get remove ksysguard or whatever the package name is than repomove the repo from your list
[02:42] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: than sudo apt-get update again
[02:42] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: it seems packages wanted to stay around and you cant do anything without the repos
[02:42] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:42] <nilats> Could someone edit this wiki page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick to fix a mistake, as I do not wish to create an account at this time
[02:42] <wastrel> my glasses are smudged
[02:42] <gnomefreak> nilats: what mistake
[02:42] <nilats> with 6.0.6.1
[02:43] <nilats> where it says "Copy (or rename) the file isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg. Then edit the file and remove the /install/ reference in all paths. For example you would change the line containing DEFAULT /install/vmlinuz to DEFAULT vmlinuz. Save the file, and make sure it is called syslinux.cfg. It does not matter whether the line breaks are in DOS or Linux format."
[02:43] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: it wil not remove anything, sais nothign to remove
[02:43] <nilats> I should also say to remove /casper/ in the same manner as removing /install/ from the syslinux.cfg
[02:43] <Shaezsche> is it safe to write to ntfs yet??
[02:43] <nilats> otherwise when you boot it cannot find the image, this fixes it.
[02:44] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  nvm there we 2 packages with the name ksysguard and another with ksysguardd
[02:44] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: apt-cache policy ksysguard
[02:44] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: get rid of both of them
[02:44] <MatthewV> !fuse
[02:44] <nilats> Instead of saying "DEFAULT /install/vmlinuz to DEFAULT vmlinuz.", in the file it now has "DEFAULT /casper/vmlinuz/"
[02:44] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:44] <MatthewV> Shaezsche, see above
[02:44] <Shaezsche> is it fixed in edgy tho? i heard it was
[02:45] <gnomefreak> nilats: do you have a launchpad account
[02:45] <Shaezsche> also have they resolved edgy's slow boot? it takes twice as long as dapper
[02:45] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: yes its workign now
[02:45] <spcmnspf> ok I'm having trouble installing Bugzilla into my ubuntu install with these errors. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/849 Can anyone give me some pointers
[02:45] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: once they are gone remove the repo again
[02:45] <wastrel> edgy on #ubuntu+1
[02:45] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: done that install kubuntu-desktop now
[02:45] <nilats> gnomefreak: I do not know what that is, so I would suppose no.
[02:45] <mighty_falcon> installing*
[02:45] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: after removing the repo yes
[02:45] <MatthewV> Shaezsche, i doubt it will be by default any time soon... that page just has instructions on how to enable it in dapper, and the same should apply to edgy
[02:46] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: ok 5 min for it all to download
[02:46] <nilats> gnomefreak:  Sorry, I am a newbie =(.
[02:46] <GhostFreeman> I have been told the Ubuntu Icon in the top left corner of the screen can change colors
[02:46] <GhostFreeman> confirm/deny?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: installing amarok and amarok-xine also?
[02:46] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  yes
[02:46] <gnomefreak> nilats: ok ask them to edit it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:46] <MatthewV> GhostFreeman, you can change it manually, i never heard of it changing colours
[02:47] <GhostFreeman> weird
[02:47] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: ok good ill brb smoke
[02:47] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  enjoy
[02:47] <edude05> Hello everyone
[02:47] <edude05> can someone help me mount my mac osx harddrive under ubuntu
[02:47] <nilats> Thanks gnomefreak
[02:48] <gss6> im having a problem installing compiz
[02:48] <Shaezsche> also have they resolved edgy's slow boot? it takes twice as long as dapper
[02:48] <MatthewV> Shaezsche, edgy discussion should be in #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <gss6> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:49] <gss6>   compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[02:49] <gss6> E: Broken packages
[02:49] <slacktyro> hi all
[02:49] <slacktyro> my ubuntu is only with gnome
[02:49] <slide> How can I find out what programs are being run at start?
[02:49] <slacktyro> how can i install and change kde instead gnome?
[02:49] <John2583> right
[02:49] <John2583> kubuntu?
[02:50] <gss6> you could get kubuntu
[02:50] <MatthewV> slacktyro, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:50] <gss6> thats gotta be a hefty dl
[02:50] <slacktyro> and which web composer do you use at ubuntu?
[02:50] <MatthewV> gss6, a few hundred MBs
[02:50] <MatthewV> slacktyro, try bluefish, or if you want WYSIWYG, try nvu
[02:50] <jak_> quanta plus!
[02:50] <slacktyro> i used to use quanta plus and mozilla composer
[02:50] <gss6> can anyone help me with compiz?
[02:51] <spcmnspf> I asked about this error in the bugzilla channel and they referred me over to this one. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/849. Thank for anyon pointers that can be giveen
[02:52] <Pegger> i am confused at how pam works, I want to tie pam toghter with /etc/passwd for openvpn
[02:52] <spcmnspf> I used apt-get to start this process
[02:52] <Madpilot> slacktyro, nvu is the updated, exapanded version of Mozilla Composer. Personally, I use either Screem or Bluefish; I don't like WYSIWYG designers
[02:53] <jak_> gss, on xgl or aiglx?
[02:53] <Madpilot> gss6, #ubuntu-xgl
[02:53] <slipttees> nickserv identify rene
[02:54] <gss6> xgl
[02:54] <gss6> i could just try beryl?
[02:54] <MarcN> slipttees: time for a new irc password.  You just exposed it.
[02:54] <MatthewV> slipttees, that should be /msg nickserv identify <password>
[02:54] <gnomefreak> slipttees: /msg nickserv identify rene
[02:54] <qq1010> how to install azureus?
[02:54] <gnomefreak> slipttees: you might want to change password now
[02:54] <gnomefreak> qq1010: sudo apt-get install azureus
[02:55] <slacktyro> Madpilot: whereis can i get nvu ?
[02:55] <bctrainers> -.-
[02:55] <violot_> Shutup! :P
[02:55] <slacktyro> Madpilot: whereis can i get nvu ?
[02:55] <AppleBoy> ...
[02:55] <AppleBoy> that sucks
[02:55] <violot_> slacktyro: sudo apt-get install nvu
[02:55] <Madpilot> slacktyro, it's in Universe repos
[02:55] <bctrainers> iditos flooding again it seems...
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> Hi... i got a sound problem.. when i use some program (like Skype or others) that uses the microfone.. i cant listen to any other sound.. Like amarok... or something like that... anyone knows why?
[02:56] <violot_> Ohhh, like that :P
[02:56] <AppleBoy> why did they switch from #wikipedia to #ubuntu?
[02:56] <AppleBoy> WOW
[02:56] <slacktyro> Madpilot: ty man
[02:56] <Shaezsche> lol
[02:56] <Kyral> Haven't seen that in a while
[02:56] <AppleBoy> +I ?
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> gnomefreak put +i for a while
[02:56] <rory096> or +R
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> Yes
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> +R sounds better
[02:56] <Kyral> +r isn't gonna stop quit floods
[02:57] <rory096> true
[02:57] <slipttees> gnomefreak: voce fala portuques?
[02:57] <Ropechoborra> Kyral +R will
[02:57] <Shaezsche> generally how much slower is gaming under ubuntu?
[02:57] <Kyral> I'm going skating
[02:57] <Shaezsche> with cedega
[02:57] <gnomefreak> slipttees: #ubuntu-pr
[02:57] <AppleBoy> do they always spam via quit messages?
[02:57] <Shaezsche> than windows
[02:57] <Ropechoborra> Hi... i got a sound problem.. when i use some program (like Skype or others) that uses the microfone.. i cant listen to any other sound.. Like amarok... or something like that... anyone knows why?
[02:57] <MatthewV> Shaezsche, some claim its faster...?
[02:57] <Madpilot> AppleBoy, no, only sometimes
[02:57] <Kyral> gnomefreak: be careful with ops, if I wind up banned again... :P
[02:57] <Shaezsche> who!
[02:57] <slacktyro> violot: the apt-get didn't find the nvu package
[02:57] <Shaezsche> thats ridiculus
[02:57] <jak_> Shaezsche: it's been slower for me
[02:57] <Shaezsche> jake how much
[02:57] <jak_> about half the fps.
[02:58] <Shaezsche> 30%?
[02:58] <Shaezsche> HALF!
[02:58] <Shaezsche> wow
[02:58] <violot> Did you do what what's his name said (Can't see it 'cos of the spammers)
[02:58] <violot> Add multiverse/universe repos?
[02:58] <Madpilot> slacktyro, you need to enable the Universe repo, probably
[02:58] <jelly-home> Ropechoborra: which version of skype?
[02:58] <violot> Yeah
[02:58] <rory096> actually
[02:58] <rory096> +r will stop it because none are registered, +R won't stop it
[02:58] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: gdm or kdm?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: what do you want as default login screen?
[02:59] <spcmnspf> I asked about this error in the bugzilla channel and they referred me over to this one. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/849. Thanks for any pointers that can be given
[02:59] <slacktyro> Madpilot: through apt-config?
[02:59] <Ropechoborra> jelly-home The latest.. but Skype is not the problem.. because now im using other program called TeamSpeak and its the same... i cant listen other sounds while im using the mic ! =(
[02:59] <gnomefreak> AfterDeath: why are you pming me about that?
[02:59] <Bensr20det> When I edit a text file with the vi command how do I save the changes??
[02:59] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  ah ok so default session when u login?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> mighty_falcon: default login screen
[02:59] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell slacktyro about universe
[02:59] <mighty_falcon> ok tnx
[02:59] <mighty_falcon> unpacking now
[03:00] <jelly-home> Ropechoborra: check if those apps are using alsa or oss.  If they're using OSS, for Skype, try the beta.  Don't know about teamspeak.
[03:00] <Ropechoborra> jelly-home wich one should they use?
[03:00] <Bensr20det> what is the best command to use in the terminal to edit a file??
[03:00] <jelly-home> Ropechoborra: alsa if possible.
[03:00] <Ropechoborra> And.. how do i check that?
[03:00] <violot> vi, nano, pico
[03:00] <slacktyro> Bensr20det: vi
[03:00] <Bensr20det> how do i save the changes after i use vi?
[03:00] <violot> Bensr20det, nano and pico are easy to use, but vi and such are more powerful
[03:01] <violot> Escape, :w
[03:01] <slacktyro> Bensr20det: :wq
[03:01] <jelly-home> Ropechoborra: if there's an option, if should be under sound settings or something.
[03:01] <bctrainers> heh
[03:02] <Asc> yay spam ^^
[03:02] <slacktyro> good choice gnomefreak
[03:02] <bctrainers> freenode have a mode to strip part/quit msgs?
[03:02] <Madpilot> bctrainers, no, but most IRC apps do
[03:02] <kitche> bctrainers: it's a client option
[03:03] <bctrainers> kitche, server side chan mode like in Nefarious IRCd has a +Q mode to strip it, wasn't sure if this one had something similar also :)
[03:03] <Ropechoborra> jelly-home it says "Sound Driver: * Default driver: (oss /dev/dsp) * Default Network (8780:L) * Other: _ _ _ _ _  what should i do?
[03:04] <Ropechoborra> It is set on OSS /dev/dsp
[03:04] <kitche> bctrainers: nope but anyways it does the same thing it's not server side it's client side for caleld user mode
[03:04] <jelly-home> Ropechoborra: choose alsa if you can.
[03:04] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak:  oke doke all done now
[03:04] <Ropechoborra> jelly-home so i choose Other: and wich is the path for alsa?
[03:04] <slacktyro> Madpilot: could you tell me how to enable universe?
[03:05] <jelly-home> Ropechoborra: hm, I don't think changing the device only will work, your app has to have support for alsa.
[03:05] <Madpilot> slacktyro, check your PMs, I had the bot send you a useful URL
[03:05] <kitche> !universe > slacktyro
[03:05] <slacktyro> ok ty
[03:05] <hypetech> DCC exploit what?
[03:05] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: all works :)
[03:05] <jaks> use alsa, then install alsa-oss package to get oss apps using alsa
[03:06] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: all thats left is for me to login itno kde now
[03:06] <jelly-home> Ropechoborra: I know skype beta has alsa support.
[03:06] <mighty_falcon> gnomefreak: tnx a ton :) appreciate it alot
[03:06] <nalioth> hypnox: please don't repeat any of that here, join #ubuntu-ops for discussion
[03:06] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:06] <gnomefreak> nalioth: some are some are not
[03:06] <wongy> gnomefreak: fixed my nick.  Hantu on #ubunut-au sorted me out
[03:06] <jelly-home> jaks: alsa-oss wrappers don't work with all apps.
[03:06] <jaks> ah, at least it works for the ones i use
[03:07] <Ropechoborra> jelly-home =( but.. i will have this problem everytime i open some voice program?
[03:07] <npodges> i'm having trouble compiling the latest lirc. can anyone see the problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26954
[03:07] <kitche> also if you guys want to know how to stop that join the irc server on port 8001 I think it is
[03:08] <jaks> npodges: have you got the kernel headers installed?
[03:08] <jelly-home> Ropechoborra: it depends on which sound system a particular program uses.
[03:08] <jaks> i think that was all i needed for lirc 0.8
[03:08] <npodges> yes
[03:08] <Ropechoborra> jelly-home i just read Unfortunately TS2 does not support ALSA features and always blocks the entire device.
[03:09] <npodges> i've compiled other things, (the ivtv driver)
[03:09] <braniff> what is the command to access gconf2 settings ??
[03:09] <matthew_w> Hey guys/gals - is there a way to make a java program which is executed by a shell script that I wrote up run as a service or something, so I don't constantly have to have a terminal window open for it to operate?
[03:09] <jelly-home> Ropechoborra: well, at least now you know.
[03:09] <jrib> braniff: gconf-editor
[03:09] <Ropechoborra> jelly-home yeap... thanks for the help!
[03:09] <braniff> jrib: thanks
[03:10] <|506|Victimslapt> hello can i get a bit of help here?
[03:10] <matthew_w> o_O
[03:10] <dabaR> matthew_w: you want the program to be ran as you boot the computer up, is that all?
[03:10] <npodges> !ask
[03:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:10] <slacktyro> Madpilot: i'm updating my apt-get with the news servers, ty for the help
[03:11] <Madpilot> slacktyro, good.
[03:12] <|506|Victimslapt> i would like to install a dhcp server but when i enter sudo apt-get install dhcpd it says can not find
[03:12] <slacktyro> Madpilot: do you know if now i'll be able to download jre by there?
[03:12] <Madpilot> slacktyro, yes, you will
[03:12] <dabaR> |506|Victimslapt: search synaptic for a dhcp server
[03:12] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell slacktyro about java
[03:12] <SeanTater> I have a bunch of files nicely arranged in a (~9GB) directory tree, and I want them all flatly linked into one directory (no tree). I can't imagine I'm the first to need this. How do I do it /easily/ ?
[03:12] <variant> |506|Victimslapt: there are a bunch.. apt-get install dhcp is teh most simple option
[03:12] <npodges> try installing gdhcpd
[03:12] <jelly-home> |506|Victimslapt: or apt-cache search 'dhcp.*server'
[03:12] <John2583> my system hangs on hardware abstraction layer start.. how can I fix this?
[03:13] <npodges> which is a front end that will install dhcp3-server, which is the package you want
[03:13] <variant> |506|Victimslapt: you might want to try gdhcpd if your a noob :)
[03:13] <npodges> ;)
[03:13] <|506|Victimslapt> well with linux i am
[03:13] <AppleBoy> jizztini <-- anybody know him? I think he might have something to do with the bot attacks otherwise
[03:13] <|506|Victimslapt> so
[03:13] <AppleBoy> yep
[03:13] <jelly-home> SeanTater: find /where/is/your/dir -type f will display all the files.
[03:13] <jaks> ubotu, tell me about java
[03:14] <SpacePuppy> !java
[03:14] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:14] <jaks> ubotu, tell jaks about java
[03:14] <|506|Victimslapt> ok if i use gdhcpd it does not work
[03:14] <jaks> heh
[03:14] <matthew_w> dabaR; yes, and in the background
[03:14] <SeanTater> jelly-home: hadn;t thought of that -- maybe I can work from there, thanks
[03:14] <jelly-home> SeanTater: there's not much from there to find /your/dir -type f -print0 | xargs -n1 -iX echo ln -s X /dest/dir  ;-)
[03:15] <jelly-home> SeanTater: sorry, find /your/dir -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -n1 -iX echo ln -s X /dest/dir
[03:16] <npodges> jaks, i have the latest headers, is there anything else you can think that would not let lirc compile?
[03:16] <dabaR> matthew_w: to run a command in the background, you type command&. the file that can be added to for random commands to be done at startup is /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh. does the command by itself run forever? the program...
[03:16] <jelly-home> SeanTater: for each file it will call "echo ln -s X /dest/dir" and replace X with the filename.  Remove echo if you're satisfied ;-)
[03:16] <jaks> npodges: i compiled it ages ago, i can't really remember, except there was a problem with the names..
[03:17] <dabaR> jelly-home: what if there are subdirs in the dir, will it go through all the subdirs too?
[03:17] <jaks> i think the location its looking in is wrong
[03:17] <GmDude66> hey guys, I need some help
[03:17] <jelly-home> dabaR: yes, find recurses through directory trees by default
[03:17] <npodges> jaks, looking for the headers?
[03:17] <dabaR> npodges: look whether there exists a /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17/Module.symvers, and if not, if the file is somewhere else, then link it. wild guess, tho
[03:18] <matthew_w> dabaR; it's a program which streams music to my Xbox 360, but it's irritating to have a terminal window open for it, constantly.  If possible, I'd like it to run daemonized, if you know what I mean.
[03:18] <Crescendo> Samsung A900 transfer to Ubuntu... how do I do it?
[03:18] <violot> GmDude66: Just state your problem.  Get on with it :P
[03:18] <matthew_w> dabaR; and to make it run on start up, I wouldn't put it in /etc/rc.local?
[03:18] <MatthewV> GmDude66, just ask
[03:18] <violot> Indeed.
[03:18] <|506|Victimslapt> so if how would i install a dhcp server if install dhcpd doesnt work
[03:18] <dabaR> matthew_w: what I do to run a command like that, is I run "nohup command&" in a terminal when I start up my comp.
[03:18] <bctrainers> ...
[03:18] <violot> -_-
[03:18] <npodges> hm...
[03:18] <GmDude66> I have installed ubuntu about a week ago (5.10) and now I just tried to install some applications but I need to be an owner. it never set my defualt account as owner and now I cannot change promissions.
[03:19] <GmDude66> how do I make 'derek' an owner
[03:19] <jaks> npodges: is the file there? i have it on my system..
[03:19] <dabaR> matthew_w: not sure where to put it.
[03:19] <npodges> well, i follewed a tutorial here http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html ... which had me prepare the build environment a certain way
[03:19] <npodges> see section 5.1, if you would
[03:19] <keleus> When in a TTY, pressing ^S turns on scroll lock... why, and how do i get that to stop happening?
[03:19] <matthew_w> dabaR; so, to run it, I just go "./start"  right now... what would I do... "nohup start&" ?
[03:19] <npodges> i gotta be honest, i followed it mostly blindly, although it seemed to ahve worked fine up until now
[03:19] <keleus> im using a standard keyboard, fyi
[03:20] <dabaR> GmDude66: you are sure that you never got to do sudo? try sudo ls in a terminal, and use your password. if it does not work, run groups, and see whether you are in the admin group.
[03:20] <dabaR> matthew_w: ya
[03:20] <slacktyro> anyone is getting sound bugs?
[03:20] <matthew_w> dabaR; and that will do it?
[03:20] <GmDude66> well, i Tried to open groups, but it just opens and then closes
[03:21] <npodges> GmDude66: how did you try to open it?
[03:21] <slacktyro> my sound work well, but if i use any mixer, it stop to work and came back only when i reboot
[03:21] <|506|Victimslapt> so after i install dhcp3-server what do i do
[03:21] <hypetech> nice
[03:21] <GmDude66> System->Admin->Users and Groups I belive
[03:21] <GmDude66> im on my windows right now
[03:21] <dabaR> matthew_w: ya, well, it will run it in the background(&) the nohup sets it up so the command does not stop running just cause you close the terminal, which it otherwise would. NOHangUP
[03:21] <slacktyro> anyone know how to solve that problem?
[03:21] <jelly-home> |506|Victimslapt, you'll need to edit /etc/dhcp3/dchpd.conf for starters.  Read man dhcpd.conf for details, but there are a number of commented out examples already in the file.  after you set it up, start the service.
[03:22] <slide> Is anyone in here using proftpd with mysql? I recently upgrade from breezy to 6.06 (dapper?) and now it seems proftpd doesnt even try to access the mysql db
[03:22] <tacomantim> has anyone here used freemind?
[03:22] <jaks> npodges: you haven't used lirc form the repo's have you?
[03:23] <jelly-home> |506|Victimslapt: edit with your favourite editor, as root (sudo or gksudo).
[03:23] <npodges> no, is there one?
[03:23] <jaks> goood
[03:23] <matthew_w> dabaR; it says "no such file or directory" when I run it... it's a shell script I'm executing called start.sh
[03:23] <jaks> avoid them, they're awful
[03:23] <npodges> i'm using the targus source from the site.
[03:23] <npodges> with a pvr-150 remote
[03:23] <GmDude66> npodges: do you know why I cant set owner/open users and groups?
[03:23] <jaks> that file should be there, have you got it? ls /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/ ?
[03:25] <npodges> yah, jaks... that's all there
[03:25] <wastrel> ubunto
[03:25] <spcmnspf> So If I was to run a java program in the background like that and make it so that closing the terminal will not kill the program... which normally outputs information to the terminal when it is running how would I monitor that output?
[03:25] <npodges> did you see section 5.1 of that page i linked to though? i made some symbolic links, that i'm not sure i understnad the purpose of. would any of that change it?
[03:25] <kitche> spcmnspf: use screen
[03:25] <tacomantim> does anyone know why a java app wouldn't resize to the window?
[03:26] <npodges> jaks, i'm gonna reboot taht computer and hopefully have better luck when it turns back on :-D
[03:26] <wastrel> because the author didn't code it to resize with the window.
[03:26] <tacomantim> they did
[03:26] <tacomantim> i've used it before
[03:26] <jaks> npodges: try running congiure like this.. ./configure --with-kernel-dir=/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/
[03:27] <npodges> alright
[03:27] <jaks> configure isnt looking in the right place
[03:27] <tacomantim> what's npodges working on?
[03:27] <jaks> lirc
[03:27] <tacomantim> ok
[03:27] <GmDude66> guys, can someone please help me lol
[03:27] <tacomantim> are you root when you set it?
[03:28] <jaks> GmDude66: you sound like you want to make your account root.
[03:28] <GmDude66> yes, how do I do that. when I set ubuntu up I thought it already did it
[03:28] <GmDude66> or do I have 2 do it manually
[03:28] <jaks> DONT do it
[03:28] <jaks> when you want to do something as root, simply tap in your password
[03:29] <npodges> GmDude66: do you understnad sudo?
[03:29] <GmDude66> No.
[03:29] <GmDude66> lol
[03:29] <jaks> sudo, or gksudo it
[03:29] <npodges> okay, you shouldnt ever use root, you just do "sudo" before the command
[03:29] <npodges> or gksudo
[03:29] <npodges> and it prompts for your password
[03:29] <GmDude66> ok, so what do I type in the terminal?
[03:29] <jaks> sudo commandnamehere
[03:29] <npodges> ubuntu is set up such that you dont need a root account for the end user
[03:29] <npodges> what is it you want to do?
[03:30] <GmDude66> CHMOD folders
[03:30] <jaks> sudo chmod 0777 foldername
[03:30] <npodges> sudo chmod 775 file
[03:30] <slop> anyone know how to disable the ability to right-click desktop icons in kde?
[03:30] <jaks> or whatever permissions..
[03:30] <GmDude66> ok, im going to try it again, have 2 boot into linux
[03:31] <tacomantim> no one has used freemind here?
[03:31] <GmDude66> thansk for the help
[03:31] <jmworx> Is Edgy x86_64 horribly broken for everyone or is it just my machine?
[03:31] <dmglouis> can someone help me? my internet isn't working
[03:32] <jaks> jmworx: #ubuntu+1
[03:32] <Madpilot> jmworx, Edgy questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[03:32] <fildo> jmworx: plus u must remember ur using a dev release
[03:32] <fildo> dmglouis: in bash type ifconfig
[03:32] <fildo> see if u have ip n stuff
[03:33] <dmglouis> i do
[03:33] <jmworx> fildo: I know it's a dev release and expected a few bugs. I didn't expect it to hang with a MTBF of less than a minute after login, which is why I'm asking if everybody is seeing the same thing.
[03:33] <[erisco] > good evening everyone, I am having a problem when halting Ubuntu 6.06. I am running an AMD Sempron, if that is of any help. What happens is, either by using the GUI or by using the terminal, I issue the halt command. The screen will immediantly turn black, and nothing else will happen, and the computer does not shut off.
[03:33] <fildo> dmglouis: behind a router?
[03:33] <jaks> jmworx: i haven't got it myself, though it was a liveCD
[03:33] <dmglouis> fildo: yes
[03:34] <fildo> ok have a look @ /etc/resolv.conf
[03:34] <fildo> n check nameservers
[03:34] <jmworx> jaks: You mean you're running an x86-64 Edgy live CD and it works fine?
[03:34] <[erisco] > there have been times where it HAS properly shutdown. Probably one out of every 25 or so. Sometimes the screen will not turn black, and instead the desktop is frozen, my mouse is frozen, and my keyboard is frozen, but the clock in the corner still ticks away
[03:35] <jaks> i ran it on friday for about half an hour, and yeah, seemed to run fine
[03:35] <dmglouis> fildo: i've put in the dns stuff given through the router
[03:35] <dmglouis> fildo: ones 68.87.75.194
[03:35] <npodges> i'm running an edgy machine here with no errors
[03:35] <fildo> no
[03:35] <fildo> thats ur problem
[03:35] <dmglouis> fildo: no?
[03:35] <npodges> jaks, i tried configure with the option you gave, didnt change anything
[03:35] <jmworx> jaks: thanks for the info
[03:35] <[erisco] > If there is any more information I can supply, please feel free to ask. I have bumped this issue on the Ubuntu forums several times now, over the period of a couple weeks with no response. After a few hours of Googling as well, I becoming in a desparate need of someone's help with this.
[03:36] <fildo> name server should be internal address of router
[03:36] <dmglouis> fildo: i just put the router address
[03:36] <dmglouis> ?
[03:36] <fildo> unless u running a dns service
[03:36] <fildo> correct
[03:36] <dmglouis> fildo: ok let me try
[03:36] <fildo> then do /
[03:36] <shane_> How do I use extended partitions so that I don't have 5 primary partitions
[03:36] <dmglouis> fildo: what?
[03:36] <fildo> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:36] <kitche> shane_: you mena 4 you cna't have 5 primary
[03:36] <jaks> npodges: no difference at all? exact error?
[03:37] <fildo> n ping an address
[03:37] <uberspaced> this may sound crazy, but I have a network card / computer combination that refuses to DHCP
[03:37] <npodges> exact error
[03:37] <fildo> check settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:37] <RomanLogix> Hi guys... kinda new to the linux world, supporting winblows for way too long... and Im tring to get away from it... I have a issue, My main box for linux at home (the one I use to learn on) has a dual head setup, but I cant get the openGL stuff to work, its an ATI 7500 Radeon... I have been told its too old and that ATI has krappy support... What agp4/8x card do you recommend that has dual head and openGL support in dapper?
[03:37] <fildo> n just make it dhcp
[03:38] <uberspaced> npodges, exact error is that IP address isnt getting set on that host
[03:38] <slacktyro> Madpilot: did you enable all server at source.list?
[03:38] <pingswept> [erisco] : same results with shutdown -h now ?
[03:38] <uberspaced> err, i should say, no matter what card I put in that box, dhcp doesnt work
[03:38] <uberspaced> and it's worked for 4 other machines
[03:38] <jaks> npodges: as it seems adamant on using /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17/ , try symlinking that to the kernel headers?
[03:38] <dmglouis> fildo: whenver i ping now, it says network unreachable
[03:39] <Madpilot> slacktyro, that's one way to do it, yes. You can do it graphically, though. You got the URL for it, didn't you?
[03:39] <uberspaced> when I set the address manually, it says network unreachable
[03:39] <kitche> uberspaced have you tried a seperate slot or can it work when you try static?
[03:39] <uberspaced> kitche, tried separate slot and static configuration also
[03:39] <uberspaced> network unreachable
[03:39] <[erisco] > pingswept, I've only tried halt and the various options under that
[03:39] <slacktyro> Madpilot: yep, but i edited it from vi
[03:39] <bink> Hello all. Quick question: Does Ubuntu and Debian share a common base? Ie: does Ubuntu simply build on top of Debian?
[03:39] <Madpilot> slacktyro, OK, that works too
[03:39] <[erisco] > pingswept, I'd like to try it now, but I have something rather important running that'd be too risky to break up now ^.^
[03:39] <jaks> bink: true
[03:40] <Madpilot> bink, Debian & Ubuntu aren't binary-compatible, but Ubuntu is derived from Debian.
[03:40] <[erisco] > pingswept, I'll keep that command in mind. Is there a way I can set it as the shutdown command for the GUI?
[03:40] <pingswept> [erisco]  Sure, I can understand that. Have you been executing halt from a terminal?
[03:40] <npodges> bink: not entirely true
[03:40] <uberspaced> i'm googling for intel i810 dhcp issues right now
[03:40] <kitche> uberspaced have you tried changing where the cable is plugged in? try one of the working machines in that same port
[03:40] <bink> so it's more like a fork?
[03:40] <L3TUC3> hmm, when I insert a dvd totem responds that I dont have an URI handler?
[03:40] <uberspaced> yeah, tried that, tried different cables
[03:40] <BlueEagle> romanlogix: Any newer AGP nVidia card should (in theory) work with dual head. That's the setup I am running. I have never had ATi for their reputed bad support of linux so I would't know.
[03:40] <uberspaced> even swapped it out with a working card.
[03:40] <uberspaced> * a card I knew was working
[03:40] <[erisco] > pingswept, after the GUI failing to work (also often doesn't logout without the screen going black) I tried the terminal. So both are experiencing the same problem
[03:40] <pingswept> [erisco]  Not sure about the GUI. I imagine so, but I don't know for certain.
[03:41] <bink> So, if there is a change in the debian source, Ubuntu does not benefit from that change?
[03:41] <[erisco] > pingswept, if I cannot find that out and change it easily, that's no big deal. Just will have to open up my terminal
[03:41] <bink> (and vice-versa...)
[03:42] <Madpilot> bink, Ubuntu has been described as a "spoon" - and yes, there is feed back & forth between Debian & Ubuntu
[03:42] <npodges> not all changes to ubuntu make it back up stream to debian, afaik, but i'm not sure on that... anyone?
[03:42] <[erisco] > pingswept, I just wanted to get this addressed. I don't know how risky it is on the OS for it to crash like that, as I have to kill the power (taking five seconds thanks to the 'child safe' feature)
[03:42] <pingswept> [erisco]  Well, that's sort of good. I'd try "shutdown -h now" from a terminal and see how far it gets. Also, check to see if there is a log in /var/log/
[03:42] <pingswept> [erisco]  Good luck.
[03:42] <RomanLogix> Blueegle: What video card do you run... I was just going to ebay one... I just want something that works and supports openGL correctly, just for google earth and the like, I dont play games anymore
[03:42] <[erisco] > pingswept, will that command actually shutdown my computer? :P
[03:42] <bink> a spoon ... awesome. I'll search on that. Thanks all!
[03:43] <npodges> RomanLogix: anything nvidia greater than fx 5200 is a safe bet
[03:43] <Wazm> hey
[03:43] <pingswept> [erisco]  Yes. Well, it shutsdown mine. Yours has a problem where it won't shutdown.
[03:43] <ianmacgregor> Does flash work in Firefox in Dapper yet?
[03:43] <[erisco] > pingswept, I just ran the --help for shutdown, I see "now" is the time at which it runs
[03:43] <Madpilot> ianmacgregor, of course
[03:43] <[erisco] > pingswept, so I could set a delay on it? hhm, interesting
[03:43] <jaks> RomanLogix: if you find one let me know! i have the same issues... i've just given up on using opengl
[03:43] <Jewfro> flash 7, in 32 bit, 64 bit is possible but painful
[03:44] <thejoeandchip> yes flash works fine
[03:44] <thejoeandchip> but only up to 7
[03:44] <pingswept> [erisco]  Yes. I don't know how useful it is, but it's cool.
[03:44] <[erisco] > pingswept, and a message? hmm, probably play around with that lol
[03:44] <thejoeandchip> if you want flash 9 then you need ies4linux
[03:44] <npodges> jaks, what issues do you have with opengl?
[03:44] <Wazm> that's a secret
[03:44] <jaks> simply doesnt work
[03:44] <npodges> how? with nvidia?
[03:44] <pingswept> [erisco]  Through SSH, it is very good.
[03:44] <Jewfro> or wine and the windows version of firefox
[03:44] <[erisco] > pingswept, could be useful if you have a download going on (like me) and would appreciate the computer to shutdown a few hours after the estimated download time
[03:44] <ianmacgregor> Madpilot: There's a note on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats that says that flash no longer works in Dapper as of 2006-10-08.. which is why I asked.
[03:44] <[erisco] > pingswept, saves power :D
[03:45] <jaks> no no, ATI. OpenGL won't work whilst I have a Xinerama set up
[03:45] <L3TUC3> whats a good media player?
[03:45] <uberspaced> hmm, found an old document stating that redhat 6.2 does not correctly detect memory settings for intel i810...
[03:45] <thejoeandchip> mplayer
[03:45] <pingswept> [erisco]  Cool.
[03:45] <jaks> i can use just one screen and get 3d acceleration, but i prefer the space
[03:45] <Madpilot> ianmacgregor, first I've heard of that problem; nobody here's mentioned anything...
[03:45] <[erisco] > pingswept, ah, but why through SSH? If the computer shuts down, the connection is just killed anyways, no? What else would there be?
[03:46] <ianmacgregor> Madpilot: Have you read that page (Flash for i386 architecture) section recently? It looks like it did work but now it doesn't.
[03:46] <pingswept> [erisco]  In conjunction with a message, it can be used for, um, amusing effects.
[03:46] <RomanLogix> jaks: same here, I have been using duals for years now and REFUSE to go back... but the ati card does some very weird things at times... Its just easier to get a new one at this point
[03:46] <npodges> oooooh, ATI that changes everything
[03:46] <Crescendo> How do I check a filesytem on a mount?
[03:46] <John2583> where is documentation on ubuntu?
[03:46] <Madpilot> ianmacgregor, I haven't, but I'm on this channel a lot and nobody's come here complaining or asking...
[03:46] <[erisco] > pingswept, haha, well if someone else was actually on the computer :P kind of a retarded feature heh
[03:46] <John2583> like text documents, online local documentation?
[03:47] <Madpilot> John2583, System->Help->System Documents
[03:47] <Werokh> anyone know how to install a linksys wusb54g (v4) in ubuntu (server) without using ndiswrapper? It looks like it's supported (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported) but I don't know how to install it
[03:47] <Jewfro> has anyone installed xchat from source, I'm missing a dependency, but not sure what, something to do w/glib
[03:47] <pingswept> [erisco]  "The internet is now ending. 01010101010101"
[03:47] <ianmacgregor> Madpilot: I suppose I could just nstall it and see for myself, eh?
[03:47] <RomanLogix> jaks: I think this will do... nVidia GeForce FX 5200 256MB TV OUT 8X AGP 5500 5700
[03:47] <John2583> Madpilot, local as in /usr/local/share/documentation
[03:47] <[erisco] > pingswept, now that'd be a day!
[03:47] <RomanLogix> jaks: http://cgi.ebay.com/nVidia-GeForce-FX-5200-256MB-TV-OUT-8X-AGP-5500-5700_W0QQitemZ150046101281QQihZ005QQcategoryZ40161QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150046101281
[03:47] <Madpilot> ianmacgregor, yeah, try it. If that report is accurate, let us know. Otherwise edit the wikipage to remove it, please!
[03:47] <uberspaced> where does grub put it's configuration file?
[03:47] <jaks> RomanLogix: thanks, i shall have a look
[03:47] <ianmacgregor> Madpilot: Will do :)
[03:48] <braniff> uberspaced, /boot/grub/grub.conf
[03:48] <[erisco] > pingswept, wonder if I could do the same thing through telnet
[03:48] <npodges> jaxs, i have a geforce fx 5200 which always worked fine with opengl, and it's cheap
[03:48] <RomanLogix> Im ebaying it right now... some times you have to throw in the towel and buy new hardware
[03:48] <ianmacgregor> Madpilot: Synaptic says "This package will download flash_linux.tar.gz archive from
[03:48] <uberspaced> thanks
[03:48] <npodges> now, i have a lappy with a go 7800
[03:48] <ianmacgregor> Macromedia (or mirror)." Looks like it will dl a tarball and I have to install it manually.
[03:48] <Madpilot> John2583, I think it's /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/
[03:49] <pingswept> [erisco]  Hey, with telnet, you could publicize your password *at the same time*!
[03:49] <Madpilot> ianmacgregor, the Flash install script should still work - haven't had to run it myself in months.
[03:49] <jaks> ianmacgregor: it'll downloaded and install it for you.
[03:49] <ianmacgregor> Madpilot: Ahh, ok
[03:49] <ianmacgregor> jaks: Thanks :)
[03:49] <[erisco] > pingswept, amazing. Well I'll admit, I don't get it ;)
[03:50] <pingswept> [erisco]  Telnet sends your password in plaintext, which is why it's not used much any more.
[03:50] <John2583> Madpilot, /usr/share/doc is what i was looking for thanks.
[03:50] <Werokh> I didn't have this wlan adapter plugged in at install, or else it probably would have found it... what command do I use to "probe for new hardware" (kind of like add new hardware wizard in windows)?
[03:50] <jaks> RomanLogix: npodges: 5200 is a safe bet then?
[03:50] <[erisco] > pingswept, over intranets it'd be just fine though. no?
[03:50] <John2583> Madpilot, just trying to get at the NVIDIA docs
[03:51] <npodges> yeah, and i got mine a couple years ago for 70 dollars
[03:51] <npodges> so i imagine they're cheap now
[03:51] <jaks> ahh even better then!
[03:51] <pingswept> [erisco]  Assuming you trust all the hosts on your intranet, yes.
[03:51] <npodges> jaks, sorry, what was the last suggestion you had that i try for compiling this?
[03:52] <wastrel> and you're not running over wifi
[03:52] <ianmacgregor> Madpilot: It works fine. I'll edit the wiki.
[03:52] <jaks> creating a symlink
[03:52] <jUggERNAUt1980> hi!
[03:52] <[erisco] > pingswept, entirely ;) but would it be possible through telnet eh? are the same "things" accessible through SHH as telnet? Are they simply two different methods of connection?
[03:52] <Madpilot> ianmacgregor, good to know - thanks.
[03:52] <RomanLogix> jaks: I was told to go with that by everyone else... the 5700 is also cheap
[03:52] <RomanLogix> I will go with bigger number I think...
[03:52] <pingswept> [erisco]  SSH is basically telnet + encryption.
[03:52] <npodges> right now, i've got /usr/src/linux as a sym link to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17
[03:52] <jUggERNAUt1980> i have a box here that has linux/xp dual boot.  i can't see my ntfs partition when i'm in linux.  is there any way i can access my xp partition through linux?
[03:53] <npodges> and the headers in /usr/src where they normally live
[03:53] <pingswept> Try ssh 127.0.0.1 in a terminal.
[03:53] <[erisco] > pingswept, I'm locked out of myself ;)
[03:53] <pingswept> [erisco]  Try ssh 127.0.0.1 in a terminal. It will let you log in to your local machine.
[03:54] <pingswept> [erisco]  What? Locked out?
[03:54] <L3TUC3> umm, how do i install mplayer?
[03:54] <jaks> npodges: something like ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17 /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:54] <wastrel> !ntfs
[03:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:54] <jaks> RomanLogix: bigger the better!
[03:54] <[erisco] > pingswept, connection refused on port 22
[03:54] <uberspaced> hey, so i have no grub configuration file in /boot/grub
[03:54] <wastrel> did you install ssh?
[03:54] <uberspaced> it's really weird.
[03:54] <pingswept> [erisco]  Ah, you aren't running sshd.
[03:54] <wastrel> install openssh-server
[03:54] <[erisco] > pingswept, nope :D
[03:54] <jUggERNAUt1980> !fuse
[03:54] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:54] <pingswept> wastrel is right
[03:55] <pingswept> apt-get install openssh-server
[03:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks!!
[03:55] <Crescendo> How do I check a filesytem on a mount?
[03:55] <braniff> Crescendo, man fstab
[03:55] <ubuntu_> how do i use terminal connection from linux to a windows machine
[03:56] <[erisco] > pingswept, my ultimate point, our computers at school are incredibly insecure. They have a telnet prompt available ;)
[03:56] <jaks> ubuntu_: telnet
[03:56] <ubuntu_> how do i go about that
[03:56] <youser> hy anyonr around
[03:56] <pingswept> ubuntu_ jaks is right, but you need a server running on the windows machine.
[03:56] <[erisco] > pingswept, now what kind of fun would THAT be to start shutting down computers :D
[03:56] <braniff> Crescendo, it's a setting in /etc/fstab
[03:57] <braniff> Crescendo, last column in /etc/fstab if i remember correctly
[03:57] <ubuntu_> telnet has to be installed on the windows machine why cant i use remote desktop
[03:57] <pingswept> [erisco]  for even more fun, install ethereal and listen for passwords. Then you can shut down computers and make it look like someone else is the perp.
[03:57] <wastrel> there's a terminal server client in gnome isn't there?
[03:57] <jaks> ubuntu_: you can.
[03:57] <youser> i need some help mounting an ubuntu loaded hard drvive
[03:58] <pingswept> [erisco]  Actually, no, don't do that. That's a terrible idea.
[03:58] <jaks> ubuntu_: rdesktop ipaddress
[03:58] <jaks> i think
[03:58] <[erisco] > pingswept, aww, comon, I like the sounds of it already.
[03:58] <bruenig> youser, you intend this to be your root drive or is this just so you can view the files in it?
[03:58] <[erisco] > pingswept, it'd be harmless fun :P
[03:58] <youser> just to view the files
[03:58] <youser> i installed my current running ubuntu on a new hard drive and need the files off my old dapper
[03:58] <ubuntu_> how do i find the computers ip i have more than one on my network
[03:59] <ubuntu_> ping my network
[03:59] <bruenig> youser, you know the name of it, like /dev/hda something or other?
[03:59] <ubuntu_> with dos
[03:59] <youser> yes
[03:59] <pingswept> [erisco]  Well, you didn't hear it from me. But do install ethereal. It's sweet, and it helps you understand network protocols.
[03:59] <youser> but not al the ptoperties
[03:59] <[erisco] > pingswept, worse comes to worse, I am banned from those window driven virus nightmares on Internet Explorer
[03:59] <[erisco] > pingswept, I have had a couple other network analyzers (spl?) not sure if I have used ethereal yet
[03:59] <bruenig> youser, what is its name and do you intend to mount this everytime you boot or just this once to get your files?
[03:59] <Werokh> what's a good command line based text editor to use in ubuntu?
[03:59] <jaks> ubuntu_: go on that machine, get command prompt up, and use ipconfig
[04:00] <bruenig> Werokh, nano and vim
[04:00] <pingswept> Werokh: nano?
[04:00] <Werokh> thanks, just couldn't remember what they were called ;)
[04:00] <pingswept> Hmm, I notice nobody mentioned emacs . . .
[04:00] <youser> well just permanently mounted incase i need to go back to anything on it if needed
[04:00] <[erisco] > pingswept, it seems awefully familiar
[04:00] <bruenig> he said good pingswept
[04:00] <[erisco] > pingswept, haven't installed much since my new comp so
[04:00] <youser> on my old dapper i mounted my windows drive but cant find any guide to mount an ubuntu drive on ubuntu
[04:01] <[erisco] > pingswept, oh yeah, definately used this before ;)
[04:01] <bruenig> youser, you need to edit the /etc/fstab
[04:01] <youser> right
[04:01] <slacktyro> i'm having problems with sound, it works well but if i use any mixer it'll stop to work, so i need to reboot to get it back
[04:01] <slacktyro> how can i solve it?
[04:01] <L3TUC3> how can I play dvds in ubuntu?
[04:01] <[erisco] > pingswept, also ran etherape (I think it is called)
[04:01] <bruenig> !libdvdcss
[04:01] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:01] <jaks> pmount it!
[04:01] <thejoeandchip> install libcssdvd
[04:01] <braniff> slacktyro, man alsactl and man alsamixer
[04:02] <jaks> L3TUC3: you're probably gonna want mp3 playback too. look for something called automatix, or easyubuntu
[04:02] <Nihil85> hi everyone, i'm in a big trouble
[04:02] <DonnieD> has anybody used linksys wirelessg with ubuntu?
[04:03] <ubuntu_> what if it says connection refused should i use rdp or vnc
[04:03] <youser> can i dual boot with 2 versions of linux/
[04:03] <jaks> for vnc, you need a vnc server on Windows
[04:03] <bruenig> youser, sure
[04:03] <kitche> youser yes you can
[04:03] <youser> nice
[04:03] <[erisco] > pingswept, it is asking for an interface. I don't recall it asking for this before. what does it mean?
[04:03] <youser> i just need the right info entered into my fstab right?
[04:04] <ubuntu_> i figured it out thank u
[04:04] <jaks> youser: and in grub
[04:04] <youser> i dontknow how to eit grub?
[04:04] <pingswept> [erisco]  eth0? Is that what you mean?
[04:04] <slacktyro> braniff, i already read that but i'm not able to solve it
[04:04] <bruenig> youser, hmm, you got a lot of work ahead of you
[04:04] <jaks> youser: actually, only grub. sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:05] <kitche> youser: nope you don't edit /etc/fstab at all
[04:05] <kitche> youser: unless you want to mount partitions from both distros into the other one
[04:05] <youser> but will i be able to access both hard drives on either version while running>
[04:05] <[erisco] > pingswept, whatever the application is asking for. It is saying it needs an interface to capture packets
[04:05] <kitche> youser: yes
[04:06] <pingswept> [erisco]  You're talking about ethereal?
[04:06] <kholerabbi> how do I change the fileowner of a file in the terminal?
[04:06] <npodges> jaks, i hate to say it, but i'm about to give up and try the lirc in the repos.
[04:06] <[erisco] > pingswept, yes indeed
[04:06] <npodges> is there any chance of it working?
[04:06] <[erisco] > pingswept, is eth0 yet another? heh
[04:06] <gavinbaker> !networkmanager
[04:06] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[04:06] <bruenig> youser, to access both HDs you will have to edit fstab and grub
[04:06] <jaks> npodges: the repo's are ancient, and you probably have no hope of getting them to work on any recent ubuntu release
[04:06] <pingswept> [erisco]  Perhaps try starting it as root? It may not be able to capture traffic as a normal user.
[04:06] <youser> ok ok
[04:06] <youser> cuz i recently got a 200gb hard drive
[04:06] <pingswept> [erisco]  Hang on a second; let me check . . .
[04:07] <youser> i have new dapper on it now
[04:07] <jaks> npodges: but then again, its probably worth a try - you never know!
[04:07] <youser> but my old ubuntu has all my settings
[04:07] <youser> i wanted just to use the new one as storage
[04:07] <[erisco] > pingswept, it is in root ^.^ thanks for taking the time to check, I'm trying to puzzle it out too
[04:07] <youser> but couldnt get my comp running
[04:07] <bruenig> youser, you could have just created another partition and stored stuff on it, you don't need a whole new install
[04:07] <kitche> youser: you probably have the 200gb drive as master
[04:08] <youser> i do, now
[04:08] <pingswept> [erisco]  eth0 is likely the name of your first ethernet card, which is the interface it's looking for.
[04:08] <youser> and the 10gb old ubuntu breezy  updated to dapper as slave
[04:08] <Werokh> ok, actually ubuntu did find my usb nic, but how do i set the ssid and wep key via command line? the wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500) says to use the gui, but I don't have a gui
[04:08] <[erisco] > pingswept, my mistake. I had originally started it up as a normal user, which I was aware of. I started it up as root, didn't see anything different, same error. Went to the config, and eth0 popped up
[04:09] <jaks> Werokh: yes you do! System -> Adminstration -> NEtworks
[04:09] <[erisco] > pingswept, you were right all along ;)
[04:09] <DonnieD> well ubuntu comes with the drivers for the chipset that linksys wusb54g uses.  I get it to register as ra0usb but when I try to log on to the router it freezes...
[04:09] <pingswept> [erisco]  I forgot that ethereal is now called wireshark. Oh, OK, good.
[04:09] <wolfbane99> hey every one
[04:09] <[erisco] > pingswept, same deal though right? or is wireshark newer?
[04:09] <Jbirk> Hello
[04:09] <Jbirk> How is it going?
[04:09] <tgelter> hey all. I'm looking for a cheap (but worthwhile) sata raid card so that I can ditch fakeraid...it would only need to have 2-4 ports and support raid 0. Any suggestions?
[04:09] <wolfbane99> good
[04:10] <Jbirk> I have a Netgear WG311V3
[04:10] <Jbirk> Is it compatible with Ubuntu?
[04:10] <youser> could i now go back to running my old breezy dapper with my new dapper as just storage?
[04:10] <wolfbane99> i just joined ubuntu today
[04:10] <pingswept> [erisco]  Same program. There was some dispute over the Ethereal name a few months ago.
[04:10] <[erisco] > pingswept, you said something about trolling for passwords. is something like that going to show up under the "info" column?
[04:10] <wolfbane99> no more windows
[04:10] <pingswept> [erisco]  Or maybe it's been a year.
[04:10] <darnell_> why does evolution tell me that the calendar ive selected is read-only?
[04:10] <darnell_> when i try to make a new appointment or task?
[04:10] <pingswept> [erisco]  Good lord, why did I ever start this?
[04:11] <pingswept> [erisco]  But try telnetting somewhere, and then look at the packets captured.
[04:11] <wolfbane99> i was wondering if some 1 could help me please
[04:11] <[erisco] > pingswept, oh don't get any ideas. I cannot even get ethereal on the school computers, unless it has a windows version
[04:11] <youser> i just ned help permanently mounting my old ubuntu drive as a boot
[04:11] <[erisco] > pingswept, but the student numbers and usernames are very very easily available. All you have to say is "I forgot my student number" and they'll hand you the sheet :P
[04:12] <[erisco] > pingswept, it'll have everyone in the class on it
[04:12] <\Dj\Krit\> does ispconfig have an irc room?
[04:12] <wastrel> !mount
[04:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:12] <wastrel> well that sucks
[04:12] <jaks> [erisco] : ethereal does have a windows version
[04:12] <youser> cuz it took me a month to get my ubuntu settings set up
[04:12] <kitche> [erisco] : umm there is a windows version of it :)
[04:12] <pingswept> [erisco]  Well, it wasn't my idea. Or at least it shouldn't have been.
[04:12] <wastrel> !fstab
[04:12] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[04:12] <pingswept> wolfbane99: what's up? Problem?
[04:12] <\Dj\Krit\> or can anyone help me with ispconfig
[04:12] <kitche> [erisco]  but wireshark is better it seems now
[04:12] <youser> thanks
[04:13] <[erisco] > pingswept, I am far more interested about learning more about networking rather than trying to be malicious on our poor school's networking job
[04:13] <kitche> [erisco]  since wireshark as a few nice features that ethereal doesn't have
[04:13] <jaks> \Dj\Krit\: do you mean ifconfig? or a seperate application?
[04:13] <[erisco] > kitche, name 'em ;)
[04:13] <pingswept> [erisco]  Ooh, what are they?
[04:13] <Jbirk> I need a wireless card
[04:13] <Jbirk> I have a Netgear WG311
[04:13] <Jbirk> will that work?
[04:13] <[erisco] > pingswept, what are what? :S
[04:13] <pingswept> [erisco]  Accch. I meant that last bit toward kitche.
[04:13] <wolfbane99> can some 1 help im a noob to ubuntu
[04:14] <[erisco] > pingswept, no problem
[04:14] <keithhhhh> I killed GRUB re-installing xp in my LINUX/XP system ... how can I get it back?
[04:14] <wastrel> !grub
[04:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:14] <kitche> [erisco]  well wireshark and ethereal are the same application in reality but you can find hte features of it at http://wireshark.org
[04:14] <foureight84> i'm trying to install XML::Smart through apt but i can't seem to find it. can anyone help?
[04:14] <pingswept> [erisco]  But that's great that you're interested in networking. Go dissect a TCP stream, and you'll be ubersomething.
[04:14] <[erisco] > pingswept, I am trying to connect to myself with telnet. Except, I don't know the port it is trying to use, and the connection is refused. I'm missing something in the equation..
[04:15] <pingswept> [erisco]  That would be telnetd.
[04:15] <wastrel> telnet is port 23
[04:15] <wastrel> why aren't you using ssh
[04:15] <pingswept> You need a program to listen for connections, which is not running by default.
[04:15] <pingswept> wastrel: he wants to try to sniff his own password.
[04:15] <wastrel> fun fun
[04:16] <[erisco] > wastrel, you bet ;)
[04:16] <JNeverMind> ivebeen running teamspeak server in xp and slack10 without every any probs.  but ive recently been testing ubuntu server 6.06 and few times a day all connected clients get kicked at the same time
[04:16] <wastrel> well you can telnet to any open port
[04:16] <[erisco] > pingswept, I'll install it. thanks for the name
[04:16] <wastrel> got a web server or mail server ?
[04:16] <JNeverMind> i installed ubuntu server on 2 seperate pcs, and its the same prob
[04:16] <pingswept> wastrel: good point. great for debugging mail servers.
[04:16] <foureight84> can anyone tell me what the package name is to install XML::Smart through apt?
[04:16] <wastrel> if you're just sniffing for packets it's exactly the same thing
[04:17] <sethk> foureight84, that's CPAN
[04:17] <[erisco] > pingswept, bah? I installed telnetd, opened up the telnet prompt, tried to connect to myself... connection refused. Are the configurations I am missing?
[04:17] <kitche> JNeverMind: probably an odd issue has to do with how the server is setup could be number of factors really iptables the ts server I would start with
[04:17] <kitche> [erisco]  you have to start telnetd
[04:17] <pingswept> [erisco]  Use ps to see if telnetd is running.
[04:18] <foureight84> sethk, what?
[04:18] <sethk> ordinarily telnet would be started by the inet daemon
[04:18] <sethk> foureight84, that's  Perl package that you get using CPAN, the perl module system
[04:18] <[erisco] > pingswept, nope :P
[04:18] <JNeverMind> im the only one who doesnt get disconnected, im connected from in the lan
[04:18] <foureight84> ah thanks
[04:18] <[erisco] > pingswept, okay here is another one of those intelligent questions. How do I start it? :D
[04:18] <pingswept> Not sure. Hmm.
[04:19] <wastrel> /etc/init.d/telnetd start
[04:19] <wastrel> sudo
[04:19] <foureight84> thanks sethk
[04:19] <wastrel> unless it's running under inetd
[04:19] <wastrel> then it's more complicated
[04:19] <wastrel> does anyone still use inetd?
[04:19] <[erisco] > wastrel, well it said the location did not exist
[04:19] <sethk> wastrel, sure
[04:20] <wastrel> [erisco] :  ls /etc/init.d | grep telnet
[04:20] <sethk> [erisco] , sounds like it isn't installed yet
[04:20] <[erisco] > it is installed, I just did for sure
[04:20] <Blinker_> i'm having a bit of an interesting difficulty with my partitions. i have 3 seperate areas listed as 'unallocated' and gparted wont let me combine them for one partition, is there a way to fix this?
[04:20] <[erisco] > wastrel, what is that supposed to do?
[04:20] <wastrel> looks for anything with telnet in the name in /etc/init.d
[04:20] <[erisco] > wastrel, and if it just returns back to the command line?
[04:21] <wastrel> then nothing :] 
[04:21] <wastrel> there's no hits
[04:21] <sethk> [erisco] , then it isn't installed
[04:21] <wastrel> it might be installed but wrapped up in inetd.
[04:21] <[erisco] > sethk, sudo apt-get install telnetd I just ran it
[04:21] <wastrel> i think debian likes inetd for telnet server
[04:21] <JNeverMind> ive set teamspeak to run as a service
[04:21] <sethk> wastrel, yes, the default is to run it from inetd
[04:21] <ArrenLex> "record macro" is disabled in OOo impress. Why? How can I enable it?
[04:21] <sethk> wastrel, the program name is in.telnetd
[04:21] <[erisco] > down with telnetd and up with inetd?
[04:22] <wastrel> in which case you need to edit /etc/inetd.conf  and enable telnet (prolly uncomment the telnet line) then run  /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[04:22] <kitche> wastrel: all distros do but doesn't mean you have to use it though really
[04:22] <JNeverMind> " /etc/init.d teamspeak start stop restart works good
[04:22] <sethk> kitche, true, but for a newbie who doesn't know how to create his own init script, it's easier
[04:23] <gss6> can someone help me with compiz?
[04:23] <[erisco] > wastrel, when I went to remove telnetd, it said it did not exist?
[04:23] <jaks> gss6: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:23] <wastrel> you're going to make me install telnetd eh
[04:24] <[erisco] > wastrel, AHH, inetd removed it when I installed it. I guess they would conflict
[04:24] <pingswept> [erisco]  I think installing telnetd adds a line to inetd.conf
[04:24] <[erisco] > perhaps?
[04:24] <npodges> gss6, what's the question
[04:24] <pingswept> So all you have to do is restart /etc/init.d/inetd
[04:25] <[erisco] > pingswept, no such file or directory =\
[04:25] <pingswept> But you did install telnetd?
[04:25] <John2583> how do i turn off hal from starting on boot?
[04:25] <wastrel> telnetd installs without inetd
[04:25] <sethk> [erisco] , no, that makes no sense.  inet starts telnet, but it doesn't conflict with it.
[04:25] <[erisco] > pingswept, yes
[04:25] <wastrel> i'm installing inetd now.
[04:25] <John2583> i dont see hal in /etc/init.d
[04:25] <wastrel> inted isn't installed on his system.
[04:25] <pingswept> Hmmmm.
[04:26] <sethk> [erisco] , so it wasn't erased by installing inetd
[04:26] <slacktyro> bye all, good night
[04:26] <sethk> wastrel, well, then doubly he didn't delete telnetd by installing inetd  :)
[04:26] <[erisco] > sethk, I am just as confused, I installed telnetd, then it vanished
[04:26] <sethk> [erisco] , do ls -l /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[04:26] <[erisco] > sethk, now I have both, connection still refused. let me see if it is running
[04:26] <sethk> [erisco] , you edited the inetd configuration, and started inetd?
[04:26] <pingswept> It seems that I have an inetd.conf with a line referencing telnetd, but no entry in init.d corresponding to inetd.
[04:27] <[erisco] > sethk, syntax error in that command you gave me
[04:27] <gss6> npodges, when i try to apt-get compiz i get the following error
[04:27] <[erisco] > sethk, I am scrolling back up now to read it again
[04:27] <gss6>   compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[04:27] <gss6> E: Broken packages
[04:27] <wastrel> the inetd package installs /etc/init.d/inetutils.inetd
[04:28] <[erisco] > sethk, this is what is in the file
[04:28] <[erisco] > telnet		stream	tcp	nowait	telnetd.telnetd	/usr/sbin/tcpd	/usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[04:28] <[erisco] > sethk, nothing *seems* commented
[04:28] <sethk> [erisco] , that looks correct.  make sure that /usr/sbin/in.telnetd exists.  make sure inetd is running.  make sure you aren't confusing inetd and xinetd.
[04:29] <wastrel> hosts.allow is empty also
[04:29] <wastrel> but so is hosts.deny
[04:29] <wastrel> how many linux users does it get to install a telnet server on ubuntu :] 
[04:29] <[erisco] > sethk, I get this "telnetd: getpeername: Socket operation on non-socket *new line* ."
[04:29] <Lil_Shank> what do i do with a .so file?
[04:30] <mnepton> telnet?!
[04:30] <[erisco] > wastrel, well when you are dealing with ME, it could take just a few ;)
[04:30] <mnepton> what year is this?
[04:30] <wastrel> mnepton:  1992
[04:30] <mnepton> wastrel: explains why my copy of OS/2 2.1 hasn;t arrived yet.
[04:30] <sethk> [erisco] , that's bizarre
[04:30] <pingswept> mnepton: 1989.
[04:30] <sethk> Lil_Shank, a .so is a shared library (so means shared object)
[04:31] <mnepton> [erisco] : why not ssh?
[04:31] <youser> hey does anyone know why my hard drive didnt mount?
[04:31] <[erisco] > sethk, the *new line* part literally means a new line
[04:31] <sethk> Lil_Shank, generally it would bo in /lib or /usr/lib, but why are you dealing with a .so instead of installing something?
[04:31] <youser> i entered this into fstab: /dev/hdd1       /media/breezy   linux      auto,exec,rw
[04:31] <pingswept> mnepton: he wants to try to sniff his own password.
[04:31] <[erisco] > mnepton, because then I cannot sniff out my own password with ethereal ;)
[04:31] <sethk> [erisco] , make sure there is an entry in /etc/services for telnet
[04:31] <mnepton> kinky.
[04:31] <wastrel> you can telnet to a different server
[04:31] <[erisco] > I am SO productive! :P
[04:31] <wastrel> /etc/services has telnet by default.
[04:31] <Lil_Shank> sethk, i was downloading binaries for a new program and it just had .so files in it
[04:31] <Werokh> if i rearrange the order of the interfaces in \etc\networking\interfaces, is that the order that it will try to start them?
[04:32] <sethk> wastrel, yes, I know, but he is getting a message with a blank socket number
[04:32] <digivore> How do i add folders to my PATH ?
[04:32] <mnepton> Werokh: yes
[04:32] <Werokh> ok this is strange, but my wlan won't work until the eth0 cable is plugged in
[04:32] <[erisco] > sethk, there is a line there indeed. "telnet		23/tcp"
[04:32] <Werokh> but then it works fine...
[04:32] <sethk> [erisco] , ok.  The message may be misleading.
[04:33] <mnepton> digivore: PATH=${PATH}:/yadda/blah/foo/bar
[04:33] <[erisco] > sethk, I still cannot telnet to myself if that is what you mean
[04:33] <sethk> Werokh, you mean if you disconnect the cable it continues to work?
[04:33] <mnepton> digivore: (then export again)
[04:33] <youser> anyone nw how this is wrong?
[04:33] <youser> /dev/hdd1       /media/breezy   linux      auto,exec,rw
[04:33] <jaks> linux, as the fs?
[04:33] <jaks> try ext3 ?
[04:33] <jaks> or 2
[04:33] <sethk> [erisco] , I'd have to see what it thinks is a non-socket operation, which would mean running strace which I suspect you aren't quite ready for.
[04:33] <sethk> jaks, ext3
[04:34] <Werokh> no i guess not seth, i unplugged it and it dies
[04:34] <sethk> [erisco] , something is still not set up correctly.
[04:34] <digivore> mnepton, can i add that to a file so it will always do that?
[04:34] <youser> i had linux as type
[04:34] <pingswept> [erisco]  I got the same error.
[04:34] <sethk> Werokh, then it isn't working at all, you are just running through the wired interface.  :)
[04:34] <jaks> youser: change it to ext3
[04:34] <mnepton> digivore: yup, any of your shell's rc files
[04:34] <[erisco] > sethk, if this is 1992 technology, I'd have hoped it'd be a tad bit simpler :P
[04:34] <pingswept> It's almost as if nobody is using telnet any more.
[04:34] <Werokh> but I have both interfaces set up with a different ip address, and when it's plugged in, I can ping the wlan ip address
[04:34] <wastrel> heh
[04:34] <sethk> [erisco] , pingswept it's possibly a DNS Issue
[04:35] <digivore> mnepton, where would i find one of those rc files?
[04:35] <jaks> pingswept: why would you want to use telnet though?
[04:35] <[erisco] > pingswept, actually, I've seen it used on so many intranets heh
[04:35] <mnepton> digivore: in your ~/
[04:35] <jaks> i mea, apart frmo sniffing your own password
[04:35] <wastrel> i installed telnetd and am getting the same error trying to start it.
[04:35] <Ykstort> how do I know if my kernel's patched to 2.6.15-26.45 ?
[04:35] <sethk> [erisco] , it's doing a lookup (getpeername) and failing.  that should be a reverse DNS Lookup, so make sure reverse dns lookups are working.
[04:35] <mnepton> Ykstort: uname -a
[04:35] <[erisco] > sethk, want to walk me through that? heh
[04:35] <Ykstort> uname -a says 2.6.15-26 but I know it's got some patchness
[04:36] <mlalkaka> Since it doesn't support extents, does an ext3 filesystem ever need defragmenting?
[04:36] <wastrel> can you do reverse dns on a non routable ip?
[04:37] <mnepton> ok, it's now officially my monday morning. off to the office. bbiab.
[04:38] <sethk> [erisco] , I have to do a work thing.  If I can, I'll come back to you.  I venture to speculate that nobody tests telnet before a distro version is released, and you are just running into a bug.  Can you use ssh instead?  That's what most people are doing, and there are windows clients for it that are known to work.
[04:39] <KS-Fan> hi
[04:39] <wastrel> [erisco] :  if there are ANY web or mail servers on your local network, you can still do your packet sniffing.
[04:39] <Ykstort>  how do I know if my kernel's patched to 2.6.15-26.45 ?
[04:39] <Ykstort> uname -a says 2.6.15-26 but I know it's got some patchness :\
[04:40] <wastrel> or any servers really
[04:40] <[erisco] > wastrel, there is one web server. Only problem, it is on this computer, and it is on the OTHER OS, it's a Windows IIS 5, I was looking a bit into ASP .NET
[04:41] <[erisco] > I'm a learning web developer / web designer
[04:41] <wastrel> [erisco] :  did you install a ssh server on ubuntu?
[04:41] <wastrel> you can telnet to that :] 
[04:41] <[erisco] > know xhtml, css, some graphical things around photoshop, PHP 5, a tiny bit of javascript basics
[04:41] <frix__> hi! are there some xgl/compiz users?
[04:41] <[erisco] > wastrel, GAH! okay okay... how do I connect to the SSH server?
[04:41] <wastrel> telnet localhost 22
[04:41] <[erisco] > wastrel, in assumption there is already one
[04:41] <glick> hey has anyone tried songbird?
[04:42] <frix__> i get 'compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed" when i try to install compiz and compiz-plugins
[04:42] <jaks> frix__: yeah, they all sit in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:42] <AfterDeath> any ops here, iPalazGOLD is onjoin spamming
[04:42] <frix__> jaks: thank you
[04:42] <[erisco] > wastrel, connection refused. perhaps not.
[04:42] <eXistenZ> !vim7
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vim7 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <eXistenZ> !vim
[04:42] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[04:42] <wastrel> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:42] <petersok> Hi...I am looking for help setting up wpa_supplicant in Ubuntu.  Is this a good place to look?
[04:42] <wastrel> you'll be glad you did someday
[04:43] <jaks> !code
[04:43] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[04:43] <[erisco] > wastrel, CONNECTED!!
[04:43] <wastrel> now send text
[04:43] <glick> anyone try songbird?
[04:43] <wastrel> this is literally how the telnet protocol works
[04:43] <wastrel> type in some text and the server receives it and responds
[04:44] <wastrel> in this case it will respond by closing the connection :] 
[04:44] <wastrel> but it's cleartext
[04:44] <wastrel> just like pop and ftp and all that other juicy goodness
[04:44] <wastrel> so you can sniff it in another window and feel the love
[04:44] <[erisco] > wastrel, okay, as soon as I can CHMOD back over the scan results, it should have detected it
[04:45] <petersok> is anyone able to help me get WPA working?
[04:45] <trigg3r> hi
[04:45] <Flannel> !tell petersok about wpa
[04:46] <petersok> thank you Flannel, but I have already been through that and am still having trouble
[04:46] <Bensr20det> what is the best way to use widgets?
[04:46] <Flannel> petersok: then you'd be best served by asking a specific question
[04:46] <wastrel> [erisco] :  actually you could have a longer conversation by telnetting to a remote (internet) server running smtp or pop, which wouldn't immediately disconnect you
[04:46] <wastrel> so you could have a longer conversation.  just don't send sensitive data
[04:47] <[erisco] > wastrel, well right now I am trying to find WHY I cannot CHMOD my files to 777!
[04:47] <wastrel> sudo chmod ?
[04:47] <[erisco] > they are staying only readable and writable to root
[04:47] <RomanLogix> Anyone know what kind of USB wifi works with a eMac/PPC running dapper? My lucent adapter never gets picked up
[04:47] <[erisco] > tried that. I'm puzzled now
[04:47] <wastrel> cp them to your homedir
[04:47] <wastrel> sudo cp.  then sudo chown them to yourself then chmod
[04:47] <AfterDeath> argh
[04:47] <mlalkaka> Since it doesn't support extents, does an ext3 filesystem ever need defragmenting?
[04:47] <Flannel> [erisco] : chances are you don't want to chmod them 777 anyway
[04:47] <wastrel> not defrag
[04:48] <trigg3r> can i ask an IP tracking question? using openVPN on ubuntu 6.06 lts
[04:48] <petersok> ok: I would like to get WPA working on Dapper WITHOUT the network-manager.  I am following the instruction on the wiki for getting wpa_supplicant working, but once I have my configuration file set up and test the connection, wpa_supplicant seems to be unable to establish a wireless connection.  it returns: Trying to associate with 00:40:10:10:00:03 (SSID='kpnet' freq=0 MHz)
[04:48] <petersok> ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[04:48] <petersok> ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[04:48] <petersok> ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[04:48] <petersok> ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[04:48] <LoRez> Warning: `petersok' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[04:48] <petersok> Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out.
[04:48] <AfterDeath> any staffers here?
[04:48] <Flannel> petersok: don't paste here.  use pastebin
[04:48] <[erisco] > wastrel, weird, but the logs are not in any sort of text format. not sure how to open them anways *shrug*
[04:48] <Flannel> !paste
[04:48] <AfterDeath> iPalazGOLD is advertising on join
[04:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:48] <eXistenZ> !edgy
[04:48] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:48] <wastrel> heh i don't know ethereal so :]   if they're binary there must be a viewer
[04:48] <eXistenZ> !schedule
[04:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:49] <eXistenZ> erm, soon edgy will be out
[04:49] <npodges> thursday is RC1
[04:49] <npodges> a week later is final
[04:50] <[erisco] > I am downloading something lol, the log is crammed
[04:50] <npodges> whee!
[04:50] <[erisco] > what protocol does telnet use?
[04:50] <Ykstort> iPalazGOLD PMed me the following shortly after I joined this channel: " Hello! I am selling Sony Vaio AR190G Notebooks (Core Duo T2500 2 GHz /17" /2GB DDR2 /200 GB HDD @ 7200 rpm /256MB GDDR SDRam / 17" WUXGA TFT Active Matrix (1920 x 1200)/DVD+-RW- / Blu-Ray disc), brand new for 520 USD or 480 euros, if interested send me an e-mail or msg now inti3m@yahoo.com , Thank You"
[04:50] <Ykstort> Would this be considered spam of some kind?
[04:50] <AfterDeath> yes
[04:50] <AfterDeath> i've been complaining about that
[04:50] <mrio> i've got a question about xfce...anyone?
[04:50] <AfterDeath> noone is doing anything about it so far though
[04:50] <Ykstort> why hasn't it been glined yet >:|
[04:50] <Flannel> Ykstort, AfterDeath, ask in #ubuntu-ops they'll hear you
[04:51] <wastrel> telnet protocol
[04:51] <[erisco] > wastrel, SSLv2?
[04:51] <kmu> mrio, might want to check out #xubuntu
[04:51] <[erisco] > I got something that says "Client Hello"
[04:51] <[erisco] > well, I said Hello lol, maybe it?
[04:52] <wastrel> not likely :] 
[04:52] <mrio> where can i get help for xfce on ubuntu?
[04:52] <wastrel> #xubuntu mrio
[04:52] <ivx> hey is there a way to get entire skins for ubuntu that change that loading graphic and everything?
[04:52] <mrio> cool thanks
[04:52] <wastrel> ivx:  afaik it's manual to change each little bit
[04:53] <wastrel> ivx: bootsplash, gdm, gnome splash, gnome themes
[04:53] <jaks> ivx: there's like 4 parts to change. gdm, the loading graphic, window themes, and icons..
[04:53] <eclipse75> does the ubuntu cd have a partition manager on it? need to resize a partition
[04:53] <[erisco] > wastrel, I am not sure what I am supposed to be seeing :(
[04:53] <wastrel> eclipse75:  i think it comes with gparted  not sure
[04:53] <jaks> yeah, or that
[04:53] <ivx> wastrel: how can you change that loading graphic so it isn't brown. do i just have to find it and replace it
[04:53] <eclipse75> thanks wastrel =)
[04:53] <[erisco] > wastrel, cannot see anything other than UDP and TCP
[04:53] <wastrel> [erisco] :  dunno, can you search for the string you entered?
[04:54] <wastrel> [erisco] :  oic   it's TCP
[04:54] <wastrel> telnet would use Tcp
[04:54] <ivx> jaks how do you change that loading graphic after you log on
[04:55] <wastrel> ivx:  you need to change the background of your gnome desktop (even if you have a background image)  and also follow the gnomesplash tutorial.  i forget how to do it.
[04:55] <ivx> wastrel alright i'll play with it
[04:55] <ivx> thanks
[04:55] <[erisco] > wastrel, there are only two TCP packets during the short scan I ran... but the information returned is alien to me
[04:56] <[erisco] > wastrel, what are the things I am looking for to get a password, or to get my "Hello" message?
[04:56] <wastrel> [erisco] :  no idea, i've never used ethereal
[04:56] <[erisco] > wastrel, used anything before?
[04:56] <jaks> ivx, i'm pretty sure its just a png in ~/.gnome2 somewhere..
[04:56] <wastrel> [erisco] :  to sniff packets?  no :] 
[04:57] <variant> [erisco] : what you trying to do exactly?
[04:57] <ivx> jaks alright i think i can swing something
[04:57] <ivx> thanks
[04:57] <RomanLogix> where would be the best place to check for PPC/Dapper support?
[04:57] <asymmetry> sup yall?
[04:57] <[erisco] > variant, pingswept said telnet sends out the password (of whatever it may be) without encryption
[04:57] <wastrel> it's really true :] 
[04:58] <pingswept> [erisco]  I think this is true.
[04:58] <ppj1010> anyone know if theres a way to control fan speed software wise (not bios)
[04:58] <[erisco] > variant, he said it should show up by scanning the packets going through the network
[04:58] <wastrel> they didn't have encryption in the olden days of the intarweb
[04:58] <[erisco] > variant, but, I cannot find any relevant information
[04:58] <AfterDea1h> finally
[04:58] <AfterDea1h> thankyou whoever klined ipalazgold
[04:58] <pingswept> [erisco]  I disappeared briefly. Did you get telnetd working?
[04:58] <wastrel> pingswept:  i had him telnet to the ssh port
[04:58] <[erisco] > pingswept, uh, no
[04:59] <foureight84> can someone please tell me what the cpan pakage name for the Gtk2 module?
[04:59] <variant> [erisco] : telnet is not encrypted.. i beleive it may well send the password in the clear too.. not 100% on that though. i do know that telnet doesnt support any encryption
[04:59] <wastrel> [erisco] :  try telneting to a remote host.
[04:59] <asymmetry> variant, telnet does send the password in the clear
[04:59] <pingswept> [erisco]  Or find a server to telnet to?
[04:59] <pingswept> Yes.
[04:59] <Flannel> [erisco] , variant, yes.  completely plaintext
[04:59] <variant> [erisco] : there you go
[04:59] <[erisco] > pingswept, I don't have a server that I can think of to telnet to... hmm
[04:59] <[erisco] > pingswept... what about our router?
[04:59] <Mad3Max3> I have a question for all u Ubuntu installer experts!
[05:00] <foureight84> can someone please tell me what the cpan pakage name for the Gtk2 module?
[05:00] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, maybe i can help
[05:00] <variant> [erisco] : telnet to your own ip (not localhost) it will go out and back in
[05:00] <[erisco] > variant I'll try
[05:00] <wastrel> ah
[05:00] <wastrel> that may be the prob.
[05:00] <variant> [erisco] : you need to be running a telnetd
[05:00] <wastrel> he can't get telnetd running, he's using the ssh port.
[05:00] <[erisco] > variant, even when telneting into the SSH port?
[05:00] <wastrel> should be sufficient for this purpose.
[05:00] <wastrel> telnet your.ip 22
[05:00] <pingswept> wastrel: Ah, can you do that?
[05:01] <variant> [erisco] : why are you telnetting to the ssh port?
[05:01] <wastrel> pingswept:  yes.
[05:01] <pingswept> wastrel: That would be brilliant.
[05:01] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, good! well the problem is that the boot disk won't boot my new computer.. it's an AMD64 system. it stalls at mount disk or something
[05:01] <wastrel> variant:  he just wants to see if he can see the packets in ethereal
[05:01] <[erisco] > variant, to get the password lol
[05:01] <pingswept> I have to try that.
[05:01] <wastrel> it doesn't work.
[05:01] <variant> it wont work like that
[05:01] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, what's the architecture and type of the image you downloaded?
[05:01] <variant> you need to be running telnetd
[05:01] <variant> it wont even attempt to authenticate otherwise
[05:01] <kmu> here we go again
[05:01] <wastrel> variant:  he'll still be sending the packets to the ssh server
[05:01] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, I think that the x86 will work on an amd64, but I'm just covering all bases.
[05:02] <variant> wastrel: it wont even attempt to authenticate otherwise
[05:02] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry , I downloaded the Dapper.. 6.06.1 AMD64 bit
[05:02] <wastrel> variant:  you'll get a socket connection and send data packets to the server
[05:02] <variant> wastrel: it will say "are you a telnet server?" "no" "ok, i wont send the password then"
[05:02] <wastrel> the server will barf on them but the packets will be sent.
[05:02] <jaks> gooooood night
[05:02] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, okay, when you boot, and it just sits there at mounting disk, try paging over to console 1 or 2, and see if it gives an error message.
[05:02] <eXistenZ> What is the safest way to get vim7?
[05:02] <wastrel> variant:  ok you get telnetd working for him :] 
[05:03] <eXistenZ> compile from source?
[05:03] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, I tried an old Knoppix livecd and that booted prefectly. it is a i386 knoppix version thou
[05:03] <wastrel> eXistenZ:  i would guess so
[05:03] <Homer> anyone know a good rythmbox radio station I can listen to
[05:03] <variant> wastrel: has he installed it?
[05:03] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, like I said, page over to console 1 or 2, and see if it gives a message.
[05:03] <[erisco] > variant, yes please :D I was not able to find ANY packets during the scan that had both a source and destination of my IP
[05:03] <wastrel> variant:  yes, but it won't run
[05:03] <variant> wastrel: why no?
[05:03] <variant> wastrel: why not?
[05:03] <Mad3Max3> ok! will.. do.. one sec.. have the new comp connected to the same screen..
[05:04] <asymmetry> [erisco] , why would you see any packets? it's not like the loopback device uses a scannable interface.
[05:04] <pingswept> [erisco]  You should be able to capture IRC traffic (I just tried it and got jaks "gooooood night" message.)
[05:04] <[erisco] > pingswept, I have been seeing IRC stuff popping up
[05:04] <pingswept> [erisco]  Try telnetting to your gateway, and you should see at least one packet go out.
[05:05] <eXistenZ> wastrel, what about the aap stuff?
[05:05] <wastrel> i dunno from aap.
[05:05] <variant> [erisco] : yeah, you got a router? you can normally telnet onto them
[05:05] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry - I don't have to do anything special since I have SATA drives do I.. like when u install XP u have to create disks and stuff
[05:05] <[erisco] > yay I can see the IRC chat messages, cool :d
[05:05] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, nope. Running on SATA drives right now.
[05:05] <[erisco] > variant, yes I do. I just don't know the password for it
[05:05] <[erisco] > variant, and there is a telnet server with it I do believe
[05:06] <pingswept> [ericsco]  Try loading a webpage. You'll be able to follow the HTTP traffic.
[05:06] <jkku3> ok guys, i have question, my friend's amarok is not playing his mp3 files when he selects them to be played, anybody know what's wrong?
[05:06] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, it'll pick them up as SCSI drives. If you're having that much of a problem, use a different installer image, like the alternate or the DVD image.
[05:06] <variant> [erisco] : send the wrong password to your router then, it wont matter.. you should still see it in there
[05:06] <[erisco] > variant, okay maybe I am wrong. Might have an SSH server
[05:06] <wastrel> eXistenZ:  edgy has vim 7
[05:06] <[erisco] > variant, no telnet server on it :(
[05:06] <wastrel> you might try a backport (?)  or upgrade.....
[05:06] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry , how do I page over to console?
[05:06] <variant> [erisco] : nmap it (nmap -A -vv
[05:06] <wastrel> [erisco] :  telnet google.com 80
[05:06] <variant> [erisco] : nmap it (nmap -A -vv IP
[05:06] <wastrel> then do whatever you want.
[05:06] <[erisco] > variant, it is all SSH, as it is accessed VIA outside world so
[05:06] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, CTRL-ALT-F1/F2/etc.
[05:07] <[erisco] > variant, what is nmap it (nmap -A -vv IP ?
[05:07] <wastrel> why don't we just have you read the telnet RFC :] 
[05:07] <variant> [erisco] : run nmap -A -vv yourroutersip
[05:07] <wastrel> you can see the spec and not have to do this empirical stuff
[05:07] <variant> [erisco] : apt-get install nmap first
[05:08] <variant> [erisco] : its a port scanner
[05:08] <[erisco] > variant okay lol
[05:08] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, it gets stuck at the booting the kernel,
[05:08] <[erisco] > variant, I was right, only SSH on it
[05:08] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, by 'gets stuck', what do you mean?
[05:09] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, kernel panic, an error message, nothing at all? Is the hard drive still active?
[05:09] <[erisco] > only SSH on this computer working too
[05:09] <variant> [erisco] : whats wrong iwth telnet? why cant you start it?
[05:09] <variant> [erisco] : apt-get install telnetd
[05:09] <variant> [erisco] : /etc/init.d/telnetd start
[05:09] <[erisco] > variant, well I cannot even remember where I was with starting it. I do have it installed
[05:10] <[erisco] > variant, "bash: /etc/init.d/telnetd: No such file or directory"
[05:10] <asymmetry> Why would you install telnetd?
[05:10] <variant> [erisco] : ok, whatever the init.d script is called
[05:10] <avagant> is there an alsa command for that so i don't have to keep typing aplay into a terminal?
[05:10] <variant> [erisco] : type /etc/init.d/tel and press the tab key
[05:10] <asymmetry> Why are you trying to install telnetd? All he needs is the client.
[05:10] <variant> avagant: why do you keep typing aplay into the terminal?
[05:10] <asymmetry> Unless I'm mistaking this for something else.
[05:10] <[erisco] > variant, you mean a wildcard?
[05:11] <[erisco] > variant, still no file or directory
[05:11] <variant> asymmetry: your mistaking this for somthing else
[05:11] <asymmetry> Gotcha.
[05:11] <avagant> cause i dont know if it's starting itself or if esd is.
[05:11] <ajchace> anyone have a link regarding migration from Debian to Ubuntu?
[05:11] <avagant> Guys I have to tell you, this whole alsa thing is really making me want to stray back to Windows.
[05:11] <[erisco] > variant, I physically looked, no telnet directory
[05:11] <mrio> anybody know why i can only see 3 selections in the dropdown for my screen resolution? i have a whole slew of them in my xorg.conf
[05:11] <variant> [erisco] : avagant what is the probelm exactly?
[05:11] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, this is the error messages.. "190.241885 .. HdC : Ide_intr : huh? expected null handler on exit..
[05:12] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, and there are more like that one..
[05:12] <variant> avagant: what is the probelm exactly?
[05:12] <avagant> variant: The problem is just the hassle of it all, it's so much work to get it done.
[05:12] <variant> avagant: to get what done?
[05:12] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, what drive is hooked up to secondary IDE master?
[05:12] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, and on Buffer, I/o error on device hdc
[05:12] <avagant> variant: If I stop esd it stops all sounds, if i do aplay it does something else. I don't know what else I have to do.
[05:12] <avagant> Sound works, but only when it decides to.
[05:13] <variant> avagant: get rid of esd, its broken and will be dropped sooner rather than later
[05:13] <avagant> I mean is there a linux distro that doesnt' have sound issues?
[05:13] <variant> avagant: i have never had a sound issue with this sound card
[05:13] <[erisco] > well goodnight all, I have an early morning
[05:13] <asymmetry> avagant, yes. Ubuntu. I'm running it right now with no sound issues.
[05:13] <variant> [erisco] : cya
[05:13] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, hmm.. only have 1 sata and one DVD.. the dvd on the IDE
[05:13] <pingswept> [ericsco]  Rock.
[05:13] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, where on the IDE?
[05:13] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, what channel, what position?
[05:14] <Mad3Max3> let me check
[05:14] <avagant> Well apparently my soundcard is supported and yada yada, it's not that I have terrible sound issues it's just so much has to be done to ensure it works semi correctly.
[05:14] <variant> avagant: how about just telling us what the problem is with specifics instead of general "this sucks"
[05:15] <avagant> Alright alright, esd is always on. I turn esd off sound goes bye bye, I have all the alsa related packages yada yada.
[05:15] <avagant> I don't know if alsa just runs in the background or what.
[05:15] <variant> what does yada yada mean?
[05:15] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, on IDE channel 1 Master I have the DVD .. and on the IDE channel 2 Master the Sata Harddrive
[05:15] <ajchace> mrio: are they defined in the "Screen" section?
[05:16] <avagant> I have all the alsa packages that I should need, and yet sound is still squirrely. It works, but only if I specify I'm using alsa and not esd.
[05:16] <JimmyDT> Hey all, i'm having a problem mounting any sort of CD or Floppy
[05:16] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, that's a contradiction in terms. SATA drives don't go on IDE channels.
[05:16] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, I habe channels from 0 to 5..
[05:16] <variant> lol
[05:16] <avagant> flash is way out of wack with anything, xmms hangs when i'm playing anything alsa related.
[05:16] <variant> avagant: you american?
[05:16] <avagant> It's a whole lot of work.
[05:16] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, SATA drives do not go on IDE channels. Period.
[05:16] <avagant> I sure am.
[05:16] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, thats what it says in the Bios
[05:16] <mrio> ajchace yep, for 6 different depths
[05:17] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, Great for your BIOS.
[05:17] <mrio> ajchace: yep, for 6 different depths
[05:17] <wastrel> i have a creative zen micro
[05:17] <stlbadger> hello
[05:17] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, how many SATA ports do you have on your motherboard?
[05:17] <ajchace> mrio: that's interesting....
[05:17] <O2> hello
[05:17] <avagant> like right now i have no esd running at all, but if i load up firefox or anything no sound will play, i have it specifically set for alsa.
[05:17] <virtual-stargaze> avagant: Try using MPlayer, for streaming, the mozilla-mplayer plugin works well.
[05:17] <DigitalNinja> Can you do an install of Ubuntu on a system with 44 mb of RAM
[05:17] <ajchace> mrio: do you have double quotes around each resolution in "Screen"?
[05:17] <variant> avagant: is this dapper?
[05:18] <O2> how can I copy files like this:  *.mp3
[05:18] <avagant> variant: It sure is.
[05:18] <Homer> DigitalNinja: try XUbuntu
[05:18] <mrio> ajchace: yep
[05:18] <variant> O2: cp *.mp3 <location>
[05:18] <Homer> and only use GTK applications
[05:18] <JimmyDT> can anyone help me with ubuntu not wanting to mount anything?
[05:18] <O2> variant: thanks
[05:18] <asymmetry> JimmyDT, what do you mean by not wanting to?
[05:18] <variant> O2: or cp /path/to/*.mp3 <location>
[05:18] <stlbadger> hello, i have ubuntu booting right next to me. problem is it is going wayyy slow and i want to  know when i can start. the pc formerly ran XP amd has a pentium 2 in it
[05:18] <variant> O2: yw
[05:18] <ianmacgregor> JimmyDT: What command are you using?
[05:19] <DigitalNinja> Homer: I was thinking about that but it's a live CD. I don't think 44 megs of ram is enough but I could give it a try. I was thinking of using the alternet CD
[05:19] <ajchace> mrio: is the config file you're editing in /etc/X11/?
[05:19] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, 4 sata ports
[05:19] <JimmyDT> I'm trying to make a grub boot disk, but it won't mount any floppy, both through the GUI and commands
[05:19] <mrio> ajchace: yes
[05:19] <grayscale> what is the apt-get package for SDL?
[05:19] <variant> stlbadger: if its the live cd, it is slow. once it is installed it will be significantly faster
[05:19] <O2> variant:  it says: cp: invalid option --
[05:19] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, so channel 0 and 1 are IDE, and 2 - 5 are SATA. Where's the DVD drive?
[05:19] <ajchace> mrio: check /var/log/Xorg.* log files for errors?
[05:19] <stlbadger> should it be sitting here for 2 hours doing nothing?
[05:19] <avagant> variant: Your card works, but is flash messed up?
[05:20] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, on 2
[05:20] <variant> O2: when i type <location> i mean that you should write in there where you want to copy the files too, not litteraly write "<location>"
[05:20] <variant> avagant: nope, works fine
[05:20] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, is it a SATA DVD drive?
[05:20] <ajchace> mrio: could grep for 'EE' in Xorg.0.log
[05:20] <variant> avagant: how did you install flash?
[05:20] <O2> variant:  I write:  cp *.mp3 /music/
[05:20] <variant> avagant: di dyou use automatix?
[05:20] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, no.. IDE
[05:20] <avagant> no.
[05:20] <JNeverMind> are most ubuntu system logs timestamped?
[05:20] <variant> O2: that should be fine, if the mp3 files are in your current directory
[05:20] <variant> JNeverMind: yes
[05:21] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, dude, you're confusing the shit out of me, here.
[05:21] <avagant> sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree or whatever.
[05:21] <JNeverMind> would it be possible to search logs for a specifictime?
[05:21] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, If 0 and 1 are IDE, and SATA is 2 through 5, how can an IDE DVD drive be on 2?
[05:21] <ajchace> anyone have any links to info about migrating from Debian to Ubuntu?
[05:21] <O2> variant: but it didn't
[05:21] <variant> JNeverMind: yeah less /logfile | grep <time>
[05:21] <mrio> ajchace: ok i'll try...just a sec
[05:21] <JNeverMind> right on
[05:21] <variant> O2: what directory are the mp3's in?
[05:21] <John2583> hald is causing my system to hang on boot. how can I remove the hardware abstraction layer daemon from the init.d startup scripts? I don't see it under /etc/init.d
[05:21] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, your right.. it
[05:22] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, its on 1
[05:22] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, thank you. That means that your CD is loaded on /dev/hdc, and it's screwing up. Try redownloading and reburning the image onto a new disc.
[05:22] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, got a little cunfused aswell over the term IDE on SATA.. thought SATA was SATA and IDE was IDE.. well
[05:23] <mrio> ajchace: ok, the only errors are xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[05:23] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, They are. IDE = 40 pin. SATA = not.
[05:23] <ajchace> mrio: I don't think that's significant
[05:24] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, so hdc is the bootdisk?
[05:24] <variant> O2: cp /path/to/the/mp3files/*.mp3 /music/
[05:24] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, yes. HDC = IDE1 master.
[05:24] <Jbirk> Hello
[05:24] <ianmacgregor> hi
[05:24] <ajchace> mrio: do you have HorizSync and VertRefresh set in xorg.conf?
[05:25] <Jbirk> I need a wifi card
[05:25] <mrio> ajchace: yes
[05:25] <Jbirk> one that is compatible
[05:25] <Jbirk> help
[05:25] <JimmyDT> asymmetry: the error its giving me (for floppy) is "mount point /media/floppy does not exist"
[05:25] <variant> Jbirk: i heard atheros chips were very compatible. but dont take my word for it
[05:25] <krazykit> Jbirk: ralink and atheros based are good
[05:25] <ianmacgregor> Jbirk: Might have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:25] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, ok! when it comes to Linux im a totally noob.. all the mount and stuff are confusing for me!
[05:25] <Jbirk> I have an RT61
[05:25] <avagant> variant: Is that the wrong way?
[05:25] <ajchace> mrio: and the settings for HorizSync and VertRefresh support the resolutions you're trying to use?
[05:25] <Jbirk> but it won't work
[05:25] <variant> krazykit: i have had some probelms with ralink, so probably atheros are best
[05:26] <mrio> ajchace: um, dunno
[05:26] <asymmetry> JimmyDT, try this: sudo mkdir /media/floppy
[05:26] <variant> avagant: is what the wrong way?
[05:26] <asymmetry> JimmyDT, then retry the mount instruction.
[05:26] <mrio> ajchace how can i tell?
[05:26] <ajchace> mrio: would be a good thing to check on :-)
[05:26] <krazykit> variant: i've never had issues with ralink.  some of the better drivers recently.  rt2500 based was wicked good.
[05:26] <avagant> sudo apt-get install nonfree flash?
[05:26] <krazykit> much better with the devicescape stack
[05:26] <ajchace> mrio: do you have a manual for your monitor?
[05:26] <JimmyDT> nope, same error appears
[05:26] <variant> krazykit: yeah, i only had a rt2750 model
[05:26] <Jbirk> I can't find anything with rt2500
[05:26] <ianmacgregor> avagant: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:26] <Jbirk> I wish I could
[05:26] <asymmetry> Jbirk, WMP54G.
[05:26] <mrio> ajchace: no...it's an old laptop
[05:26] <variant> Jbirk: there are a million and one
[05:26] <avagant> ianmacgregor: Yah.
[05:26] <Jbirk> I have a WMP54G Lnksys
[05:27] <asymmetry> That's rt2500 based.
[05:27] <Jbirk> But, it is RT61
[05:27] <darnell_> how safe is it to upgrade to edgy right now?
[05:27] <Jbirk> Version 4.1
[05:27] <asymmetry> No, it isn't.
[05:27] <ajchace> mrio: those might be the only resolutions supported then
[05:27] <Jbirk> Yes, it is
[05:27] <avagant> My flash is out of sync with sound like crazy.
[05:27] <krazykit> darnell_: #ubuntu+1
[05:27] <Jbirk> It is version 4.1
[05:27] <darnell_> k
[05:27] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, but I had a suspicion on that the CD was the factor messing up the boot.. so I started downloading the ISO again.. both the i386 and the AMD64 one
[05:27] <krazykit> avagant: known problem.  flash sucks.
[05:27] <asymmetry> Dude. No. It isn't. I'm using that EXACT same card RIGHT NOW.
[05:27] <Jbirk> I need version 4
[05:27] <avagant> And for some reason some sites don't work at all.
[05:27] <variant> avagant: try the gpl flash player..
[05:27] <mrio> ajchace: could i bump up those ranges and give it a try? (:
[05:27] <avagant> gpl?
[05:27] <Jbirk> okay
[05:27] <krazykit> asymmetry: keep in mind that there are multiple unmarked revisions to cards ;-)
[05:27] <ajchace> mrio: should be able to google the manufacturer's site for an owner's manual
[05:27] <ajchace> mrio: wouldn't recommend it
[05:27] <variant> avagant: gnash. i think the browser plugin is buggy right now but the standalone player works well
[05:27] <asymmetry> krazykit, that's very true.
[05:27] <Jbirk> so If I put my Linksys WMP54G in my computer, it will just pick it up?
[05:28] <asymmetry> Jbirk, no, but there are a ton and a half short tutorials on how to get it working. It was easy.
[05:28] <julian> where does everyone work? curious
[05:28] <avagant> can i sudo apt-get install that one? Haha
[05:28] <ajchace> mrio: very possible to fry things (screen, videocard, etc) by playing with timings
[05:28] <variant> julian: a datacenter
[05:28] <krazykit> julian: biology TA
[05:28] <asymmetry> julian, US Air Force, computer programmer.
[05:28] <wastrel> <3 biology
[05:28] <variant> julian: a datacenter, in dublin, ireland
[05:28] <julian> cool
[05:28] <Jbirk> how do I get the RT61 working
[05:29] <Jbirk> or the netgear wg311v3 working?
[05:29] <asymmetry> variant, just ordered my fiancee's wedding ring from a store in Dublin.
[05:29] <julian> so just using linux for the heck of it?
[05:29] <iloivar> I think I had an r61t that I could only get working with ndiswrapper
[05:29] <variant> asymmetry: cool, it may sound romantic but dublin is a hell hole, I call it the anus of ireland
[05:29] <ajchace> julian: know anyone working for Syngenta's tech support in Dublin?
[05:29] <asymmetry> variant, that might be, but the ring looks nice.
[05:29] <julian> ha
[05:29] <variant> julian: i use it for work, most of our customers are using it
[05:29] <variant> asymmetry: hehe :)
[05:29] <rex> weird qroblem here...  my letter between o and r doesn't work.
[05:29] <krazykit> julian: no, because i like it.  i like the way it works.  i like the command line.  i like the freedom, i hate windows.  i also use OSX, even though it's entirely unfree
[05:30] <avagant> And then there's some sites that just don't work at all, and that's fun.
[05:30] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, which dist shall I use.. i386 or the AMD64.. is there any major performance diffrence .. will the 32 bits software work in the 64bit?
[05:30] <asymmetry> krazykit, command line ftw
[05:30] <avagant> I know they are flash sites, but it's like BAM WHATS GOING ON
[05:30] <julian> yea i also just like to figure out my problems and fixing it
[05:30] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, if you have a 64-bit proc, use a 64-bit distro.
[05:30] <ianmacgregor> julian: I use Linux because I can dl it for free, install it on a million machines for free and it taught me a lot about computers.
[05:30] <variant> avagant: use windows or macosx then
[05:30] <julian> what linux do ur customer use variant
[05:30] <avagant> variant: nice. haha
[05:30] <Jbirk> Can you give me a link to a wireless card from newegg?
[05:30] <Jbirk> one that will work out of the box with dapper
[05:30] <Jbirk> I have some $$$
[05:30] <Jbirk> but I don't really want to do much to configure it
[05:30] <variant> julian: many different but mostly redhat unfortunatly
[05:30] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, I must agrea on the Dublin statement u just made!
[05:30] <wastrel> pcmcia card?  the cisco ones are nice
[05:31] <julian> u dont like redhat?
[05:31] <rex> so, if I tye the word eole, you can't read it
[05:31] <julian> slow in my opinion
[05:31] <youser> hey is it possible to get my printer inmy panel?
[05:31] <avagant> I wish os x would work on my computer, then I'd be complete.
[05:31] <rex> because the  is missing
[05:31] <variant> julian: not particularly. really poxy setup and annoying to use
[05:31] <mrio> ajchace: does this site tell you anything? http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Solo_Series/P9500/P950002.shtml
[05:31] <lampshade> I use linux because I noticed that one day that I was using vim, gaim, firefox, etc and that all of those programs were OS.  So then I thought, "Why not just make the whole OS that way?"  and I put ubuntu on my laptop as soon as files were backed up.
[05:31] <JimmyDT> sweet, think I got floppy working
[05:31] <ajchace> wastel: have to update firmware or they are less than perfectly stable
[05:31] <avagant> You can't install os x on a windows computer though right?
[05:31] <julian> I c
[05:31] <variant> avagant: i wouldnt konw
[05:31] <julian> has anyone here used Parsix
[05:31] <variant> avagant: know*
[05:31] <avagant> I've used Mac before, and didn't really like.
[05:31] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, but the 32 but version will work aswell.. thouht I read someting about Wine wouldn't work in the 64 bit version
[05:31] <ianmacgregor> youser: I don't think it'll fit, the panel's kinda narrow and you don't want ink running all over the place.
[05:32] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, then go for it.
[05:32] <youser> lol i think ubuntu agrees with you
[05:32] <ianmacgregor> hehe
[05:32] <Jbirk> Help
[05:32] <youser> it wont seemto go up there
[05:32] <Jbirk> I need a wireless card
[05:32] <avagant> Then again I had 10.2.8 which is like light years behind anything else.
[05:32] <Jbirk> Let me get this straight, if I put an RT2500 Wireless card into my computer, it will just work?
[05:32] <avagant> And they apparently like to make programs that only install on the newer os's and not the older ones.
[05:32] <asymmetry> Jbirk, No.
[05:32] <ajchace> mrio: not for timings
[05:32] <variant> Jbirk: correct, that is the plan anyway
[05:32] <John2583> is there anyway to change startup services manually, without using something like bum?
[05:32] <variant> asymmetry: some will
[05:32] <rex> I have tried two different keyboards in both the usb and qs/2 qorts, but no luck
[05:32] <wastrel> ajchace:  the last one i used is 802.11b ---  pretty ancient, but it was reliable and easy to configure.  nowadays i have built-in...
[05:32] <ajchace> mrio: sometimes it's hard to find that kind of info
[05:32] <julian> so I tried out the Parsix distro. its very similar to ubuntu. But its just faster, i mean alot faster
[05:32] <krazykit> Jbirk: it should, yes.
[05:33] <ajchace> mrio: hang on a sec
[05:33] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, are u running a 64bit cpu and the 64bit dist?
[05:33] <Jbirk> So Ubuntu should detect it?
[05:33] <Jbirk> and then let me configure it?
[05:33] <variant> Jbirk: yes it will
[05:33] <youser> no possible way of printer getting on panel?
[05:33] <avagant> Parsix?
[05:33] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, AMD X2 4800+ on AMD64 Dapper.
[05:33] <q83> hey, could someone give me a hand with a problem I'm having with login window?
[05:33] <mnepton> Jbirk: what chipset does that card use?
[05:33] <avagant> !parsix
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parsix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Jbirk> The card I have is RT61
[05:33] <julian> ya, its an Iran distro, but i just switched the lang
[05:33] <variant> Jbirk: you might have a harder time setting up wpa etc but thats annother thing :)
[05:33] <avagant> Ah.
[05:33] <Jbirk> IT is WMP54G Linksys
[05:33] <ajchace> mrio: these are for 1024x768 at 70hz
[05:33] <Jbirk> Version 4.1
[05:33] <avagant> Does it have sound issues? Haha
[05:33] <rex> I have a keyboard malfunction, folks
[05:33] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, does Mythtv work on the 64 bit dist? .. it's a HTPC system that I've built
[05:34] <ajchace> mrio: HorizSync 31.5 - 57.0 VertRefresh     50-90
[05:34] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, No clue on that one.
[05:34] <variant> Mad3Max3: yeah it does
[05:34] <julian> is ntfs write gona be supported in edgy?
[05:34] <Mad3Max3> variant! good! :)
[05:34] <mrio> ajchace: where'd you find that?
[05:34] <asymmetry> julian, NTFS write is supported in Dapper.
[05:34] <julian> sorry, i meant out of box
[05:34] <ajchace> mrio: just what I have in my config
[05:34] <asymmetry> It does out of box.
[05:34] <julian> its such a pain to get it installed.
[05:35] <asymmetry> julian, and anything running a kernel after 2.6.-something.
[05:35] <npodges> can you install programs on the live cd?
[05:35] <krazykit> npodges: no
[05:35] <asymmetry> I know it's stable on the installed kernel.
[05:35] <mrio> ajchace: mmk, i'm running at 1024x768, so i guess i'll just stick with that
[05:35] <Mad3Max3> That turning 3D desktop that u can see in some of the vids in ubuntus site.. what is that called
[05:35] <variant> npodges: yes
[05:35] <mrio> ajchace: thanks for your help tho
[05:35] <ajchace> mrio: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree86-Video-Timings-HOWTO/index.html
[05:35] <variant> npodges: but thats limmited by how much ram you have
[05:35] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: beryl/compiz
[05:35] <julian> xgl
[05:35] <ajchace> mrio: g2g
[05:35] <variant> krazykit: you can
[05:35] <ajchace> mrio: later
[05:35] <npodges> variant: i want to compile a package, that for one reason or another, i can't compile now.
[05:36] <npodges> variant: i want to boot into the live cd, and checkinstall it into a package
[05:36] <julian> Mad3, its called compiz/xgl
[05:36] <variant> npodges: fair enough, if you have enough ram or swap space activated youcan install build-essential and compile away
[05:36] <npodges> and save it, then install it here
[05:36] <variant> npodges: cool, do it in a chroot
[05:36] <Mad3Max3> Krazykit : ok! that apps is some of the coolest desktops mods!
[05:36] <rex> would there be a software reason for every key excet one working on a keyboard?
[05:36] <variant> npodges: mount your hard disks, mount proc, chroot and install
[05:37] <npodges> i think i screwed up the links to my kernel headers or something...
[05:37] <ianmacgregor> rex: Sounds like a bad keyboard
[05:37] <variant> rex: if its a special key like the fn key on laptops
[05:37] <q83> when I start Login Screen it starts for a second and dies :| anyone know how to fix this?
[05:37] <npodges> because i cant compile somehting that should compile very simply
[05:37] <rex> no, tried two kbds
[05:37] <variant> npodges: apt-get install the knerle headers again
[05:37] <rex> it's a letter
[05:37] <npodges> does that reset the symbolic links?
[05:37] <variant> npodges: you shouldnt nee dthe linux-headers fo rmost compiles
[05:37] <lampshade> Mad3Max3: you will want to hit up ubuntu-xgl for support.  They are good people.  Follow the links at the top for tutorials and then if you have problems hit up the room there for help
[05:37] <ianmacgregor> q83: Define "dies", does it give you any errors?
[05:37] <rex> the one between o and r
[05:37] <npodges> it's for the lirc kernel module
[05:37] <variant> npodges: if you mean /usr/src/linux then no it dont
[05:37] <variant> npodges: ah
[05:38] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: meh.  i think it's irritating and useless.  but i like lightweight apps anyway.
[05:38] <lampshade> npodges: ahhh, doing a mythtv install?
[05:38] <Mad3Max3> Lampshade! ok.. thank you
[05:38] <asymmetry> How does one use the neat XGL/compiz stuff?
[05:38] <q83> Dies as in it says "starting admin app" and then disappears completely
[05:38] <npodges> yes.
[05:38] <SuperMiguel> what is the difference between xen and vmware?
[05:38] <avagant> that gpl can you sudo apt-get install that?
[05:38] <variant> npodges: use uname -a to find your kernel version and install the corresponding header
[05:38] <npodges> i got ivtv to compile just fine, but i used someone else's HOWTO that had me change a couple symbolic links
[05:38] <npodges> for linux
[05:38] <npodges> and build
[05:38] <variant> avagant: gnash
[05:38] <avagant> yah gnash.
[05:38] <ianmacgregor> q83: Ok, that isn't the login screen, that sounds like you are starting gui that needs root pivs
[05:39] <npodges> i have the headers installed though.
[05:39] <krazykit> ubotu: tell asymmetry about xgl
[05:39] <q83> I meant Login Window as in the app that changes your login screen.
[05:39] <rex> oddly enough, I bought a new keyboard when other letters malfunctioned
[05:39] <Mad3Max3> saw something about ppl playing WoW on linux.. is there a emulator that works for that?
[05:39] <rex> they all work now, but one other doesn't
[05:39] <q83> I've searched around the ubuntu forums, lots of people have had this problem but I haven't found a solution that works for me.
[05:39] <npodges> Mad3Max3: it works in wine, with some tinkering, or ootb with the new crossover beta for linux
[05:40] <avagant> ootb?!?! so confused.
[05:40] <npodges> Mad3Max3: which is free for a 60 day trial, and works real well
[05:40] <ianmacgregor> q83: Run this command from a term and see if it returns any errors:  gksu gdmsetup
[05:40] <npodges> out of the box
[05:40] <npodges> sry
[05:40] <rex> so, if it's not the keyboard, what else could it be?>
[05:40] <Mad3Max3> npodges.. cool.. gonna look sweet doing MC on a 42 inch screen! :D
[05:40] <SuperMiguel> what is the difference between xen and vmware?
[05:40] <q83> It says failed to connect to socket, sleep 1 second and retry, retries 5 times and then stops.
[05:41] <thejoeandchip> i think xen is open source
[05:41] <q83> also at the end: "Could not access GDM configuration file."
[05:41] <lampshade> Mad3Max3: yeah I know someone who plays it only on linux--he says it is actually faster than windows because of the way linux did something differently... I don't know exactly but it sounded cool.
[05:41] <ianmacgregor> q83: Ok, now you are further along in solving this problem than you were. Try posting *that* info/error on the forums, it may help someone fix the issue.
[05:42] <q83> alright, I'll give it a shot. thanks.
[05:42] <ianmacgregor> You're welcome :)
[05:42] <digivore> when was dapper released?
[05:42] <Mad3Max3> Lampshade! Yeah.. I heard that too.. but it wouldn't surprise me if it did go faster on Linux. even trough a windows emulator! :D
[05:42] <krazykit> digivore: june, iirc
[05:42] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: urk!  WINE Is Not an Emulator!
[05:42] <ianmacgregor> digivore: 6.06 (month.year) so June 2006
[05:42] <lampshade> Mad3Max3: well that's one of the reasons, usually it goes through WINE which isn't an emulator--it is people actually reverse engineering the Windows API to make things work
[05:42] <wastrel> not really though
[05:43] <wastrel> dapper was released late wasn't it
[05:43] <krazykit> ianmacgregor: year.month, innit.
[05:43] <ianmacgregor> digivore: Sorry, i meant (year)month)
[05:43] <ianmacgregor> krazykit: Yeah
[05:43] <Keyseir> Will anybody here admit to being experienced with VMware?
[05:43] <digivore> ianmacgregor,  cool thanks
[05:43] <ianmacgregor> You're welcome :)
[05:43] <krazykit> Keyseir: experienced enough to have installed it a few times on various machines
[05:44] <Mad3Max3> lampshade.. even better then..
[05:44] <SuperMiguel> Keyseir: what do you need
[05:44] <frantic> hey guys, has Serpentine broke recently for anyone else?
[05:44] <JNeverMind> where can i find the log for the ntp in ubuntu server ?
[05:44] <rex> no, but my letter between o an d r doesn't work
[05:45] <Keyseir> VMWare people: I have a Windows 2000 installation that seems to have gotten buggy. I forgot the installation process for "hacking" vmware tools into an installation, so I don't want to do it all over again. Is it possible to format a drive within my virtual windows machine?
[05:45] <frantic> P or Q?
[05:45] <frantic> or tyui
[05:45] <rex> not q
[05:45] <sethk> JNeverMind, I believe the messages go into one of the system logs, not a separate log
[05:45] <rex> lmnoqrst
[05:45] <rex> see?
[05:45] <JNeverMind> isee
[05:45] <rex> and it's not the kbd
[05:46] <rex> tried two
[05:46] <rex> usb andqs/2
[05:46] <krazykit> Keyseir: erm.  you could put the windows CD in and boot from that, formatting that way.  i don't think vmware will format natively
[05:46] <sethk> JNeverMind, I checked, they end up in syslog, which is /var/log/syslog
[05:46] <Mad3Max3> but wine doesn't work on the 64bit dist ?
[05:46] <Keyseir> krazykit: Put the virtual windows CD in.. hadn't thought of that, heh
[05:46] <JNeverMind> thank you
[05:46] <Mad3Max3> something about Biarch
[05:46] <Mad3Max3> or am I wrong?
[05:47] <Keyseir> krazykit: Trying that now..
[05:47] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: it's a pain to do.  needs lots of 32-bit compat libs.
[05:47] <variant> Mad3Max3: yes it does
[05:47] <variant> Mad3Max3: as krazykit says though
[05:47] <variant> Mad3Max3: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[05:48] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: at this point in computing, 64 bit is not worth it.  maybe in a year or so, but not now.  but that's just my opinion
[05:48] <ajchace> at the risk of being redundant: anyone have any info on migrating from Debian to Ubuntu ? :-)
[05:48] <npodges> its gonna be more than a year or so, imo
[05:48] <krazykit> ajchace: afaik, there's currently no supported path.
[05:48] <rex> so, I take it from the silence on the subject that I've exceeded this channel's hel caabilities
[05:49] <ajchace> krazykit: as in, "we won't hold your hand", or as in "it might work, you break it, you fix it"?
[05:49] <variant> krazykit: for heavy database loads it can perform much better
[05:49] <krazykit> rex: or we don't know your keymap.  i have several letters between them
[05:49] <Lurch21> I'v been trying to copy ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz into /lib/firmware can anyone help me.
[05:49] <variant> krazykit: but generaly not
[05:49] <krazykit> ajchace: both, really.
[05:49] <ajchace> krazykit: because im perfectly willing to break things :-)
[05:50] <rex> keyma
[05:50] <rex> keyma
[05:50] <ajchace> krazykit: ok, thanks for the input
[05:50] <rex> achaderm
[05:50] <sethk> Lurch21, I'm sure that's not what you are trying to do.  Tell his what you need to do.
[05:50] <rex> oele
[05:50] <ajchace> krazykit: think I'll atempt it, and see what happens
[05:50] <rex> a baby dog is a uy
[05:50] <krazykit> rex: so the p?
[05:50] <rex> Yes
[05:51] <krazykit> rex: have a liveCD?  if so, pop it in.  if the p-key works, it's fixable.  if not, you're gonna want to buy a new keyboard
[05:51] <rex> I have a new kbd
[05:51] <rex> both orts
[05:51] <rex> no hel
[05:51] <Shakezula> Hey I have two PPC machines. An iMac with a broken cdrom drive and a Blue and White G3 with a working CDROM drive if I were to take the hard disk out of the iMac and put it in the G3, install Ubuntu, then put the hard disk back in the iMac can I expect it to work?
[05:52] <krazykit> rex: so multiple keyboards fail to print "p"?
[05:52] <rex> yes
[05:52] <sethk> Shakezula, command line stuff, yes,   X stuff, no
[05:52] <ajchace> rex: wow, that's neat
[05:52] <variant> rex: that sounds so unlikley.. unless you were messing iwth the keymap settings
[05:52] <Shakezula> The Blue and White G3's hard disk ribbon cable is hdc, the iMac's I'm guessing is hdb.
[05:52] <rex> not to my knowledge
[05:52] <Shakezula> sethk I can fix the X stuff it's the hard disk cables I'm worried about.
[05:52] <sethk> variant, could be simply that the wrong keyboard map is in effect.
[05:52] <krazykit> rex: ah, now we're getting somewhere.  open a terminal and type xev.  put the cursor over the xev window and hit "p"  see if it spews any output
[05:52] <variant> rex: open a terminal and type xev
[05:53] <variant> rex: then press the p key
[05:53] <variant> is there any output?
[05:53] <rex> no, US english 105 keys
[05:53] <rex> standard
[05:53] <sethk> Shakezula, if the disk designations are different, that's equally easy to fix, as long as you can boot a live cd and mount the file system.
[05:53] <variant> sethk: if you know of any keylayout that is identical to qwerty but doesnt have a p key?
[05:53] <krazykit> rex: not the question.  open xev and see if pressing "P" gives any output
[05:54] <rex> just no letter lmnoqrst
[05:54] <sethk> variant, I do know of a revelant old joke.  the punchline is "it's in my pants"
[05:54] <rex> arg
[05:54] <krazykit> rex: did you open xev and try?  you're not answering the question.
[05:54] <variant> sethk: ants* ;)
[05:54] <sethk> variant, as in "what happened to my P"
[05:54] <Ninja562> Hello, I am using Hoary Hedgehog on an amd 64 and having a few problems with mozilla plugins, any suggestions?
[05:55] <variant> sethk: yeah hehe i go tit
[05:55] <variant> Ninja562: upgrade to dapper
[05:55] <Lurch21> I am new at ubuntu i have been trying to get my wireless device activated. Following steps on a help page. I downloaded ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz firmware as told but i can get past this step of installing it.
[05:55] <rex> I think I have a mobo failure coming on
[05:55] <sethk> variant, but seriously, the keyboard variant doesn't have to have p in a different location, it only needs to assign a different key code to  p.
[05:55] <Ninja562> Dapper heh, is the upgrade path reasonable (I am a feeb)
[05:55] <variant> sethk: im 100% sure there is no such keymap
[05:55] <npodges> is "export GCC=4.0" the right way to set gcc to use version 4.0?
[05:55] <Mad3Max3> Anyone now if Mobitex works trough wine.. is a DOS software.. but does Wine rune DOS applications aswell?
[05:56] <rex> sorry
[05:56] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: you could use dosbox
[05:56] <variant> Ninja562: just change hoary to dapper in sources.list and away you go
[05:56] <Zeenux> do you guys think installing Ubuntu on an external drive is a good idea? And is it safe (keep the internal HD nice and cozy, with no possibility of anything goig wrong?)
[05:56] <variant> Ninja562: at least i think thats the way
[05:56] <krazykit> Zeenux: it'll work as long as you install grub to the external drive and not your main drive
[05:56] <variant> Zeenux: yeah its fine, will be slow though
[05:56] <Ninja562> I will give it a shot, Vielen Danke.
[05:56] <Mad3Max3> Krazykit. ok.. thanks for the tip
[05:56] <npodges> nice and cozy with what? windows?
[05:56] <zenit> Lurch21: which help page are you following? I think you have to put the firmware in /lib/firmware, if I'm not entirely wrong
[05:57] <ianmacgregor> variant: iirc, he needs to upgrade: hoary -> breezy, then breezy -> dapper
[05:57] <rex> I have no idea what it says ,but hitting that letter made it react
[05:57] <variant> ianmacgregor: ok, sounds reasonable
[05:57] <Lurch21> That right
[05:57] <Lurch21> /lib/firmware
[05:57] <grayscale> can someone help me to install the SDL compiler?  I'm trying to find the apt-get packages for it but cant find any
[05:57] <Zeenux> ok, sweet
[05:57] <Lurch21> I'm using a text book
[05:58] <Zeenux> looks like ill be getting ubuntu on my laptop
[05:58] <rex> ] KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x2e00001,
[05:58] <rex>     root 0x136, subw 0x0, time 1329891755, (848,948), root:(853,996),
[05:58] <rex>     state 0x10, keycode 33 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,
[05:58] <rex>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[05:58] <rex>     XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[05:58] <rex>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[05:58] <rex> KeyRelease event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x2e00001,
[05:58] <rex>     root 0x136, subw 0x0, time 1329891891, (848,948), root:(853,996),
[05:58] <rex>     state 0x10, keycode 33 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,
[05:58] <rex>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[05:58] <jook> hi
[05:58] <rex>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[05:58] <krazykit> rex: don't spam the channel
[05:58] <ianmacgregor> !paste > rex
[05:58] <rex> i didn't
[05:58] <krazykit> you did.
[05:58] <Ninja562> Variant: where is the sources.list?
[05:58] <zenit> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <jook> hi some ubuntu hacker?
[05:59] <krazykit> rex: ok, so there'y no symbol for it.  this should not be a hard fix, as soon as i figure out the command ;-)
[05:59] <frantic> update: serpentine won't burn this disk because it's WAVs?
[05:59] <variant> Ninja562: as ianmacgregor says upgrade: hoary -> breezy -> dapper
[05:59] <frantic> i wouldn't think gstreamer would have any trouble with wavs
[06:00] <whyso> hi, i am about to install, but perfectdisk is saying my c: pagefile is fragmented, but it wont run correctly on startup, should i go ahead and install?
[06:00] <variant> Ninja562: so change hoary to breezy in sources.list and then do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:00] <Keyseir> krazykit: I don't think it's letting me boot from disc
[06:01] <variant> Ninja562: then repeat those steps changing from breezy to dapper
[06:01] <variant> whyso: never heard of perfect disk
[06:01] <Keyseir> krazykit: Also, I just realized that formatting C would probably delete VMware tools =/
[06:01] <variant> whyso: do you have a spare partition?
[06:01] <whyso> yup!
[06:01] <variant> whyso: shouldnt matter then
[06:01] <whyso> (i need to resize the windows one tho)
[06:02] <variant> whyso: you can do a filessystem check on the windows drive from in ubuntu which is probably a good idea
[06:02] <clintsnet> ;)
[06:02] <variant> whyso: yeah, cd comes witha version of gparted that will do that
[06:02] <clintsnet> I need to get back on ubuntu :-)
[06:02] <variant> whyso: although its a bit out of date (the current gparted release is awsome, full functionality!)
[06:02] <whyso> thanks!
[06:02] <clintsnet> is smoking, trying to calm down.. ya know..
[06:02] <clintsnet> ;)
[06:03] <frantic> smoking what?
[06:03] <variant> frantic: a haddock
[06:03] <variant> frantic: kipper*#
[06:03] <frantic> !
[06:03] <whyso> although i cant use live CD, (doesnt work (cause of raid?)) so tryign to resize before i install
[06:03] <variant> whyso: ok
[06:03] <clintsnet> anyone know how I can get some software, gui, etc.. whatever, to access files in NTFS< partitions, and drives, having problems on debian testing.. >_<
[06:03] <krazykit> rex: ok, i got it.  paste this into your terminal:  xmodmap -e "keycode 33= p"
[06:03] <Keyseir> You leave, Krazykit?
[06:04] <Keyseir> speaka da devil
[06:04] <variant> whyso: resize with partiton magic or whatever but leave creation of the ubuntu parition to the ubuntu installer
[06:04] <krazykit> Keyseir: nope.  um, i dunno then.
[06:04] <rex> ppppppp!
[06:04] <rex> pppppppppp!
[06:04] <variant> clintsnet: so ask in #debian, this is #ubuntu
[06:04] <clintsnet> yeah i know :D
[06:04] <rex> Praise God!
[06:04] <clintsnet> I'm coming back :-)
[06:04] <rex> weird
[06:04] <rex> thanks, krazykit
[06:04] <clintsnet> getting ready to see how vmware does on, beta, :-)
[06:04] <krazykit> rex: dunno.  something nuked that keysym for some reason.  remember tha command and xev, and you can remap anything
[06:05] <rex> koo
[06:05] <clintsnet> I'm coming back variant, just waiting on this download, 81%
[06:05] <clintsnet> :-)
[06:06] <clintsnet> hey variant
[06:06] <Keyseir> Don't suppose anyone has a clean windows 2000 or XP vmdk sitting around?
[06:06] <Lurch21> Zenit: did you get my request
[06:07] <varsendaggr> hey what plays ram?
[06:07] <varsendaggr> .ram
[06:07] <clintsnet> real media ?
[06:07] <clintsnet> real player
[06:07] <varsendaggr> clintsnet, yes
[06:07] <clintsnet> real player
[06:07] <varsendaggr> where do i get it?
[06:07] <clintsnet> want me take this, Mandriva, from 2007 PowerPack I was testing with hee.. and take it from Mandriva :P
[06:08] <Keyseir> Does anyone have a clean windows 2000/xp vmware installation?
[06:08] <clintsnet> I will convert it to deb binary, then I will compile for ubuntu package :)
[06:08] <SuperMiguel> what is the difference between xen and vmware??
[06:08] <clintsnet> it also had that, LinDVD on there hee :p
[06:08] <SuperMiguel> key go to the web page
[06:09] <clintsnet> Super. way diff :)
[06:09] <SuperMiguel> clintsnet: like?
[06:09] <variant> SuperMiguel: you keep asking that
[06:09] <clintsnet> well, I use vmware to run my Windows XP Pro VLK inside
[06:09] <SuperMiguel> vlk?
[06:09] <clintsnet> Volume LIcense Key
[06:09] <clintsnet> its my IT edition
[06:10] <SuperMiguel> what else?
[06:10] <clintsnet> I dont' have to every worry about registering with Microsoft.. or doing major changes to hardware, and then Microsoft Asking me to register, etc
[06:10] <SuperMiguel> how did you get that?
[06:11] <ice_cream> i ran into an interesting problem today... couldnt install ieee80211
[06:11] <cniowenm> sameone cant help me, i don't know how to instal usb drive
[06:12] <ice_cream> i needed to install it in such a way as to be able to compile ipw2200 driver...
[06:12] <SuperMiguel> what is the difference between xen and vmware??
[06:12] <mikm[laptop] > Different ways of emulation
[06:12] <mikm[laptop] > Well, I'm using the term "emulate" loosely
[06:12] <SuperMiguel> which one is better?
[06:12] <mikm[laptop] > Depends on the task
[06:13] <mikm[laptop] > xen requires an OS that is compatable
[06:13] <SuperMiguel> what can you do on vmware server
[06:13] <SuperMiguel> that you cant on zex
[06:13] <mikm[laptop] > Not sure.
[06:13] <mikm[laptop] > Vmware lets you emulate any OS
[06:13] <clintsnet> dang I having alot of fun :P
[06:13] <clintsnet> cniowenm?
[06:13] <mikm[laptop] > Although it's slower for that reason
[06:13] <mikm[laptop] > Well, not *any*
[06:13] <clintsnet> thats right :-)
[06:13] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, ok.. burned the new ISO, and the same problem.. I/O error hdc.. ect.. still wont boot.
[06:13] <clintsnet> alot though :-)
[06:13] <Ninja562> What app should I use to edit the sources.list file?
[06:13] <cniowenm> i need help sameome can't help me
[06:14] <mikm[laptop] > Architecture, etc.
[06:14] <SuperMiguel> it is slow?
[06:14] <mikm[laptop] > Ninja562 Whatever is your favorite editor
[06:14] <clintsnet> vmware workstation 5.5 , runs great on linux
[06:14] <mikm[laptop] > SuperMiguel It's usable
[06:14] <clintsnet> I don't like it on windows, vmware :P
[06:14] <SuperMiguel> xen is faster?
[06:14] <naut> Any fluxbox users here?
[06:14] <mikm[laptop] > Ninja562 I prefer vim, but gedit works well
[06:14] <clintsnet> I don't use Xen
[06:14] <frantic> \M/ VIM \M/
[06:14] <SuperMiguel> which do you use
[06:14] <mikm[laptop] > vim
[06:14] <clintsnet> vmware workstation 5.5 for linux
[06:15] <SuperMiguel> what is the good thing about vmware server?
[06:15] <mikm[laptop] > Not sure what the difference of server vs. regular is
[06:15] <krazykit> SuperMiguel: easy to make new VMs
[06:15] <variant> clintsnet: thats free right? would you mind dcc'ing it to me?
[06:15] <JNeverMind> make: not found
[06:15] <JNeverMind> heh
[06:15] <blerk_> can anyone tell me howto get the "system tools" meny to appear in my applications menu.. when i edit the menu its there and some apps are enabled, ther're just no system tools menu :(
[06:15] <q_a_z_steve> hey, I'm trying to set up a script to run dcfldd 15 times doing different things, /dev/zero, random and urandom. First I can use each of these ?
[06:15] <clintsnet> well, depends on what you consider free, me sending it, or vmware insiders
[06:15] <clintsnet> :-)
[06:16] <variant> clintsnet: im not that botherd tbh :)
[06:16] <clintsnet> let me install this, ubuntu beta
[06:16] <clintsnet> okay np :-)
[06:16] <clintsnet> Super, I"ll show ya how to set it up, :-)
[06:16] <krazykit> JNeverMind: apt-get install build-essential
[06:16] <Mad3Max3> anyone know why Ubunti livecd wont boot on my new computer. stops att booting kernel.. and get's errors.. hdc error ect
[06:16] <SuperMiguel> i know how :P
[06:16] <clintsnet> or I tell ya what, let me just make a pre virtual machine, and you guys can run vmware player, with custom virtual machine :-)
[06:17] <clintsnet> snapshot ;)
[06:17] <variant> clintsnet: would you send me the workstation please?
[06:17] <JNeverMind> does anyone find themselves using TABkey for completing sentences in here ? lol
[06:17] <clintsnet> yep
[06:17] <clintsnet> ;)
[06:17] <variant> JNeverMind: all the time, its very annoying
[06:17] <ice_cream> always
[06:17] <fowlduck> no :/
[06:17] <frantic> i ran vista in vmware for about 3 minutes
[06:17] <clintsnet> $189
[06:17] <clintsnet> :-)
[06:17] <variant> frantic: poor you
[06:17] <frantic> Then I was like, Why?
[06:18] <frantic> Then I considered burning a DVD so I could do a proper install on another HD
[06:18] <JNeverMind> im really liking the switch to ubuntu but this one thing is giving me grief
[06:18] <SuperMiguel> i just got a server computer
[06:18] <frantic> And... Why?
[06:18] <SuperMiguel> it is really goof idea to install vmware server?
[06:18] <variant> JNeverMind: the tab key?
[06:18] <cniowenm> i need help  to install my usb drive sameon can help me?
[06:18] <clintsnet> going to burn this cd, ubuntu beta, talk soon
[06:18] <JNeverMind> no im using ubuntu server right now but there is a glitch with teamspeak server software
[06:18] <SuperMiguel> cniowenm what do you mean?
[06:18] <krazykit> JNeverMind: no, i don't.  but i LOVE tab completion.  zsh has much better tab completion than bash ;-)
[06:19] <clintsnet> talk soon ;)
[06:19] <variant> cniowenm: what do you mean install it? put it in the usb socket and its installed
[06:19] <frantic> PROVE IT
[06:19] <JNeverMind> it kicks everyone off a few times a day, except for me, connecting from inside the lan
[06:19] <blerk> nobody knows howto enable the system tools menu to appear on the application menu?
[06:19] <cniowenm> my drive usb i need the comand to instal
[06:19] <SuperMiguel> cniowenm: to install what
[06:19] <JNeverMind> thats what  i mean i find myself using TAB to try to complete sentences and words in irc DOH
[06:19] <variant> cniowenm: its allready installed (if you mean the usb driver)
[06:19] <krazykit> cniowenm: plug it in.  it should just work.
[06:20] <cniowenm> usb command
[06:20] <krazykit> cniowenm: there is no usb command.  it'll just be /dev/sd?
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> mount /media/usb
[06:20] <variant> cniowenm: what are you trying to do?
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> xD
[06:20] <JNeverMind> ive had teamspeak server running on win and slack for long periods with Never a kick
[06:20] <clintsnet> cniowenm:
[06:20] <JNeverMind> i cant figure it out
[06:20] <clintsnet> its not as bad as.. configuring debian :-)
[06:20] <JNeverMind> im going to recompile the kernel myself and see if the prob persists
[06:20] <krazykit> JNeverMind: maybe there are hints in the logs?
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> JNeverMind: i know whats wrong
[06:20] <JNeverMind> SuperMig what is it ?
[06:21] <variant> JNeverMind: you on dapper?
[06:21] <SuperMiguel> JNeverMind: you are using windows xD
[06:21] <JNeverMind> yes dapper server
[06:21] <JNeverMind> dapper drake is right beside me
[06:21] <variant> JNeverMind: i had a network timeout issue with edgy but that was fixed in latest version
[06:21] <JNeverMind> ive tried 2 different pcs and 4 diff nics
[06:21] <JNeverMind> exact same prob on default install dapper server
[06:21] <variant> god damn making a 5gb tar file takes too long
[06:22] <frantic> heh
[06:22] <JNeverMind> im new to ubuntu but cant get past this
[06:22] <cniowenm> i'll try krazykit. thanks very much
[06:22] <JNeverMind> SuperMig what was your idea for me?
[06:22] <frantic> at work, i back up like 20G of data to 7zip files every night
[06:22] <SuperMiguel> any good server to put on a server machine beside http, ssh and ftp
[06:22] <frantic> it takes over 8 hours
[06:23] <krazykit> SuperMiguel: cups?
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> cups?
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> what is that
[06:23] <variant> SuperMiguel: et
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> et?
[06:23] <krazykit> SuperMiguel: Common Unix Print System
[06:23] <Mad3Max3> seems like Konppix works better than ubuntu
[06:23] <wastrel> print server
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> ohh
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> and et?
[06:23] <Mad3Max3> knoppix*
[06:23] <JNeverMind> i like the way ubuntu is heading and i thought id really try to use it
[06:23] <JNeverMind> but i cant get past this one thing with ts
[06:24] <JNeverMind> ive tried searching the logs for anything at the same time as the ts server is kicking those connected from outside lan
[06:24] <frantic> god why won't this cd burn
[06:24] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: knoppix is good, but you are on a #ubuntu chat why would you say that in here
[06:24] <variant> JNeverMind: ask on some teamspeak forum as it odesn tseem to be a ubuntu issue from what you say
[06:24] <SuperMiguel> variant: what iset
[06:24] <SuperMiguel> is et*
[06:24] <JNeverMind> ive got  a thread going at ts forums my username is VascoMan
[06:24] <mailinh> hi all
[06:25] <JNeverMind> never had this prob with win or slack
[06:25] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel - cause ubuntu wont boot on my machine when knoppix does..
[06:25] <JNeverMind> i know im not giving much info
[06:25] <mailinh> i want to modify the installation process of Ubuntu ???
[06:25] <frantic> Anyone ever have this problem with Serpentine?
[06:25] <variant> SuperMiguel: game server
[06:25] <frantic> It "prepares the media files"
[06:25] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: what is says ?
[06:25] <mailinh> give me guide's linke, plz
[06:25] <JNeverMind> any troubleshooting ideas for me ppl?
[06:25] <frantic> then it fails when that's done
[06:25] <SuperMiguel> variant: what kind of game
[06:25] <variant> SuperMiguel: fps
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> fps? like?
[06:26] <frantic> Converting files failed
[06:26] <Ninja562> I am having no luck at all editing the sources.list, do I need to modify the file permissions or something?
[06:26] <variant> SuperMiguel: first person shooter
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: what is the error
[06:26] <variant> Ninja562: you have to do it as root
[06:26] <krazykit> Ninja562: run it as sudo/gksudo
[06:26] <variant> Ninja562: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> like counter strike?
[06:26] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, well.. it stalls right in the begining! ..
[06:26] <variant> SuperMiguel: yes
[06:26] <Ninja562> Ahhh! what is the command for root?
[06:26] <variant> Ninja562: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <krazykit> Ninja562: sudo
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: do you have an compaq or hp machine?
[06:27] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, A selfbuilt machine
[06:27] <SuperMiguel> ok
[06:27] <JNeverMind> ls
[06:27] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, AMD64 with SATA drive
[06:27] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: when you just start the cd its says boot and install ubuntu, blah blach, boot from the hard drive
[06:28] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: choosethe first option and without hiting enter press f6
[06:28] <Mad3Max3> ye
[06:28] <Mad3Max3> yes
[06:28] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: and type acpi=off
[06:28] <SuperMiguel> and hit enter
[06:28] <variant> Mad3Max3: try in safe graphics mode
[06:28] <Lurch21> Does anyone know how to install the drivers for an intel base wirless device. I downloaded the ipw2200 firmware.
[06:28] <SuperMiguel> what it does just reboot the computer automatically?
[06:28] <cniowenm_> i can't find usb in my computer i need help
[06:28] <q_a_z_steve> SuperMiguel: Can you help me?
[06:29] <SuperMiguel> q_a_z_steve: ill try
[06:29] <q_a_z_steve> hey, thanks. I wasn't sure if anyone could see my messages.
[06:29] <q_a_z_steve> hey, I'm trying to set up a script to run dcfldd 15 times doing different things, /dev/zero, random and urandom. First I can use each of these ?
[06:29] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, I will try that.. with F6.... the error I get is something like this! "190.241885 : Hdc, Ide_Intr : huh? expected null handler on exit"
[06:30] <SuperMiguel> :)
[06:30] <q_a_z_steve> Second, I have the commands figured out, but I need help with the script...
[06:30] <SuperMiguel> try another cd
[06:30] <Lurch21> can anyone help me.
[06:30] <SuperMiguel> q_a_z_steve: to make them?
[06:30] <cniowenm_> help me to instal usb i my computer
[06:30] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, this is the second CD im trying.. :(
[06:31] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: download kubuntu and try
[06:31] <SuperMiguel> wait are you downloading edgy?
[06:31] <SuperMiguel> or 6.06?
[06:31] <Mad3Max3> Dapper.. I like gnome
[06:31] <Mad3Max3> 6.06.1
[06:31] <SuperMiguel> try kubuntu, then install ubuntu-desktop and unistall kubuntu-desktop
[06:32] <SuperMiguel> ill be back
[06:32] <Mad3Max3> why Kubuntu.. whats the diff?
[06:32] <q_a_z_steve> linux syntax...
[06:32] <q_a_z_steve> I want to run
[06:32] <q_a_z_steve> for ((a=1; a <= 5 ; a++)) {
[06:32] <q_a_z_steve> for ((b=1; b <= 3 ; b++))
[06:33] <clearzen> I've set up a server in my house for the first time but I am having a few problems with it and wanted to get  some advice. My download/upload speeds are not what they should be. Also, the server caches all of the ram and does not release the cached memory for use. How can I stop this?
[06:33] <q_a_z_steve> and for each b... b==1, run zero b==2 run random b==3 run urandom
[06:33] <cniowenm_> help to find usb driv i my computer
[06:34] <q_a_z_steve> I don't know how to make the if statement work...
[06:34] <cniowenm_> i need sameon to help me i can't find usb drive in my computer
[06:34] <variant> cool, ext4 on the way
[06:35] <clearzen> cniowenm_: try /dev/sda1
[06:36] <JNeverMind> is there a quickway to get the kernel source off the server cd? like apt-get ?
[06:36] <clearzen> cniowenm_: that should be your usb device and you can mount it using something like mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk -v if that is what you mean
[06:37] <Ninja562> in the sources.list, do I want to uncomment the two lines to add software from the universe?
[06:37] <JNeverMind> kernel-package ?
[06:37] <clearzen> cniowenm_: what kind of device is it?
[06:37] <variant> Ninja562: not if you dont need it
[06:38] <q_a_z_steve> kernel.org
[06:38] <Ninja562> OK, I will hold off on that, no search and replace, so I am doing it manually
[06:40] <variant> cniowenm_: im impressed that you found how to get on irc.. can you find your butt?
[06:40] <n4p> help i need help my usb drived away
[06:40] <variant> Lol
[06:40] <Lam_> is there a cli command to log out of a session?
[06:40] <variant> Lam_: killall <yoursessionmanager>
[06:40] <Lam_> variant: thanks
[06:40] <Lurch21> Can explain how to copy ipw2200 firmware file into /lib/firmware Please.
[06:40] <youser> anyone here know much about backends and xsane or scanners?
[06:41] <Mad3Max3> damn error.. im starting to get irritated - [190.241885]  hdc : ide_intr: huh? expected null handler on exit
[06:41] <variant> Lam_: with the cp command
[06:41] <variant> Lam_: type "man cp"
[06:41] <variant> Lurch21: type "man cp"
[06:41] <youser> my scanner will not work with xsane... yet
[06:41] <Epidemik> hey
[06:42] <Epidemik> tommarows my birthday
[06:42] <n4p> yay
[06:42] <youser> happy bday dude
[06:42] <n4p> too bad you didnt learn how to spell yet
[06:42] <youser> its like almost 1am here
[06:42] <variant> its 05:42 here
[06:43] <youser> east siiiide white trash wit tat2s
[06:43] <variant> ololol
[06:43] <n4p> nyc reppin this chan or what
[06:43] <n4p> damn
[06:43] <youser> my scanner is reppin not working
[06:43] <n4p> lols
[06:43] <cniowenm_> clearzen i try but the command is not find
[06:43] <Jbirk> Ah, my first shower in about 2 days
[06:43] <Jbirk> I am so glad the contractors finished the bathroom
[06:44] <variant> cniowenm_: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && ls /mnt
[06:44] <Lurch21> Variant: I have a ipw2200 firmware file in my tmp folder how do i copy it in the /lib/firmware file
[06:44] <n4p> :x
[06:44] <variant> Lurch21: cp /tmp/filename /lib/firmware/
[06:44] <n4p> didnt you learn basic copying cmds
[06:44] <Ninja562> how do I log in as root for permissions to upgrade  and update
[06:44] <Ninja562> ?
[06:44] <variant> Ninja562: sudo su
[06:45] <JNeverMind> i want to recompile my kernel is there a way to get the /usr/scr with apt-get ?
[06:45] <Ninja562> OK, thanks
[06:45] <variant> Ninja562: or just run the commands with sudo infront (advised)
[06:45] <variant> JNeverMind: apt-get install kernel-source
[06:45] <AsheD> so, I have been told that my Ubuntu box has a virus or something [because our router hates us, and if everybody is online, speed goes to shit] , any way I can check?
[06:45] <variant> JNeverMind: then untar it and symlink it
[06:45] <variant> AsheD: apt-get install clamav
[06:45] <JNeverMind> im using server ubuntu
[06:45] <Ninja562> I tried the command with sudo in front and got a permission denied
[06:45] <n4p> lol vari
[06:46] <JNeverMind> says cant find that package
[06:46] <variant> JNeverMind: sorry, that should be apt-get install linux-source
[06:46] <SuperMiguel> JNeverMind: are you using any gui?\
[06:46] <variant> Ninja562: type sudo su -
[06:47] <Lurch21> varian: I got this responce "cp: cannot create regular file `/lib/firmware/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz': Permission denied
[06:47] <JNeverMind> no im console mode, default install ubuntu 6.0.6 server
[06:47] <SuperMiguel> lurch use sudo su
[06:47] <youser> wtf 127.0.0.1
[06:47] <variant> Lurch21: you need root permissions to write to that folder
[06:47] <youser> something is telnetting my comp
[06:47] <JNeverMind> the cd is in the drive
[06:47] <youser> ona ridiculous port
[06:47] <n4p> kill it
[06:47] <variant> Lurch21: and you probably want to untar the archive before you copy it
[06:47] <youser> how?
[06:47] <Healot> rm -rf ubuntu :)
[06:47] <l3tuc3> I should get a pcmcia wireless card for my old lappie :)
[06:48] <youser> i can only see it on my firestarter
[06:48] <SuperMiguel> em -rf ubuntu?? what is that
[06:48] <JNeverMind> cant find linux-source either
[06:48] <l3tuc3> its actually working better then when I had windows 2k on it
[06:48] <John2583> does anyone know how to disable the hardware abstraction layer from starting at boot besides using bum?
[06:48] <Lurch21> Variant: how do i untar?
[06:48] <variant> JNeverMind: linux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches
[06:49] <variant> Lurch21: tar -xvcf filename.tgz
[06:49] <SuperMiguel> JNeverMind: what are you going to do which that server
[06:49] <youser> how do i close a connection i might find in firestarter?
[06:50] <variant> youser: create a policy in the policy tabs explicitly blocking connections from that ip/host
[06:50] <JNeverMind> for one thing its going to run teamspeak
[06:50] <youser> its 127.0.0.1
[06:50] <variant> youser: lol, thats your computer
[06:50] <youser> but nothing is running and it is notmy modem
[06:50] <SuperMiguel> youser: thats your ip
[06:50] <Ninja562> Still getting that unable to lock administrative directory error
[06:50] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, does it matter that the DVD is master.. ? I maybe shall put it as slave or something
[06:50] <youser> but its not the same port as my modem
[06:50] <variant> youser: what sort of connection is it? (what service?)
[06:50] <youser> unknown
[06:50] <JNeverMind> apt-get build-essentials went fine
[06:50] <variant> youser: ignore it
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> youser 127.0.0.1 thats your computer default ip
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: try
[06:51] <youser> so why is my computer contacting itself
[06:51] <Lurch21> variant: This happened "tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option
[06:51] <Lurch21> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> youser: is not contacting your self is using that port
[06:51] <variant> Lurch21: tar xvzf sorry not xvcf
[06:51] <youser> using it for what?
[06:52] <youser> it oesnt need to use that port
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> youser: whats is the anme of the process
[06:52] <avagant> !tar
[06:52] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:52] <youser> name of what process?
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> youser: it just says that 127.0.0.1 is using which process
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> or chich port
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> which*
[06:52] <Lurch21> variant: This happened "tar: ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:52] <Lurch21> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:52] <Lurch21> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:52] <Lurch21> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:53] <youser> my firestarter says source 127.0.0.1 is reaching destination 127.0.0.1 on port ****
[06:53] <variant> Lurch21: you need to specify the path
[06:53] <variant> Lurch21: tar -xvzf /path/to/file.tgz
[06:53] <cniowenm_> sameon speek french
[06:53] <variant> Lurch21: or be in the same directory
[06:53] <SuperMiguel> youser: lol, how do you think that firestarter work?
[06:53] <variant> cniowenm_: non
[06:53] <Ninja562> OK. I think I got it.
[06:54] <variant> cniowenm_: try ubuntu.fr
[06:54] <youser> but thats not its normal port
[06:54] <variant> cniowenm_: try #ubuntu.fr
[06:54] <SuperMiguel> it have tos end signals back or forth to know all the incoming and outcoming connection
[06:54] <youser> btw whatis python
[06:54] <cniowenm_> i can't explem i english
[06:54] <variant> youser: a programming language
[06:54] <youser> i see
[06:54] <cniowenm_> i need help fo my computer
[06:54] <variant> youser: or a snake, depending on field of expertise
[06:54] <youser> cuzi keep getting a connection from python popping up and then going away
[06:54] <youser> and im not doing anything
[06:54] <variant> youser: or somthing else if your in the porno industry
[06:55] <SuperMiguel> cniowenm_: necesitas algo
[06:55] <cniowenm_> i don't see ubs command in my computer
[06:55] <Lurch21> I have been un able to get the file in my directory it keeps telling me file not found but i can see it under my tmp file
[06:56] <SuperMiguel> cniowenm_: what command do you need
[06:56] <variant> Lurch21: tar -xvzf /tmp/FILENAME.tgz
[06:56] <cniowenm_> i see i the roots but cant see i my computer
[06:56] <youser> either wayi give a fuck about my ports and shit
[06:56] <youser> i wanna get my scanner working
[06:56] <cniowenm_> how to make it appear in my computer
[06:57] <variant> im off, gl all
[06:57] <SuperMiguel> cniwenm it wonr be on your computer
[06:57] <SuperMiguel> it have to be on /media
[06:57] <Lurch21> variant: This happend "LICENSE
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-boot.fw
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-bss.fw
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-bss_ucode.fw
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-ibss.fw
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-ibss_ucode.fw
[06:57] <youser> dont forget mkdir
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-sniffer.fw
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-sniffer_ucode.fw
[06:58] <SuperMiguel> ipw? whats that for
[06:58] <variant> Lurch21: yeah, you untarred it
[06:58] <variant> Lurch21: now copy it
[06:58] <variant> im off though so good luck Lurch21
[06:58] <SuperMiguel> variant what is that for?
[06:58] <Lurch21> how did that look agian
[06:58] <variant> Lurch21: cp /path/to/filename /location/you/want/to/put/it
[06:59] <variant> SuperMiguel: what?
[06:59] <cniowenm_> in my computer i see: files system ,cd_room 1, disquet1 but not usb driv
[06:59] <SuperMiguel> ipw
[06:59] <Lurch21> Variant: Thanks for all the help
[06:59] <variant> Lurch21: np, if i wasnt so tired i would try harder to help you :)
[06:59] <variant> later
[06:59] <Lurch21> Variant : Have a good one.
[07:00] <SuperMiguel> lurch what are you tring to instal
[07:00] <SuperMiguel> trying
[07:01] <SuperMiguel> cniowenm_: try to take the usb out and put it back
[07:01] <MrPockets> why does, in windows onmy 19" LCD at 1280X1024, everything seems smaller and farther away, but in Ubuntu at the same settings everythings still very large
[07:01] <SuperMiguel> MrPockets: did you install the drivers on ubuntu
[07:01] <JNeverMind> why doesnt TAB key work with ftp
[07:01] <MrPockets> for the GFX card?
[07:02] <SuperMiguel> yep
[07:02] <cniowenm_> nothing append
[07:02] <MrPockets> i did not
[07:02] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: The goal is my wirless driver, but I'm having problems just at the begininng trying to install the firmware.
[07:02] <SuperMiguel> MrPockets: tu tu ru
[07:02] <MrPockets> that makes sence
[07:02] <SuperMiguel> Lurch21: what kind is it?
[07:02] <MrPockets> but how do i find linux drivers for a geforce card?
[07:02] <SuperMiguel> MrPockets: nvidia?
[07:03] <MrPockets> yes
[07:03] <MrPockets> 5200
[07:03] <mikm[laptop] > !nvidia
[07:03] <SuperMiguel> MrPockets: do you ahve automatix?
[07:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:03] <mikm[laptop] > MrPockets /\
[07:03] <MrPockets> which is?
[07:03] <Madpilot> SuperMiguel, please don't recommend Automatix here. It's too good at breaking people's Ubuntu installations.
[07:03] <MrPockets> ah
[07:03] <SuperMiguel> Madpilot: it make live easier
[07:04] <mikm[laptop] > Until it screws up.  Then it makes life much harder.
[07:04] <Madpilot> SuperMiguel, it makes breaking Ubuntu easier, sure
[07:04] <silly_girl22> help!!!!!!!!1
[07:04] <SuperMiguel> could you please tell me why?
[07:05] <MrPockets> i should be able to do hat
[07:05] <MrPockets> thanks
[07:05] <MrPockets> im in Winblows now, however
[07:05] <MrPockets> so it will have to wait
[07:05] <mikm[laptop] > silly_girl22 ?
[07:05] <SuperMiguel> MrPockets: install vmware on windows and you can run ubuntu xD
[07:05] <SuperMiguel> actually better you can install it :)
[07:05] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: i will put on my official hat and strongly encourage you not to use Automatix, EasyUbuntu, or any other such automated means of using apt.
[07:06] <SuperMiguel> mnepton: why is that
[07:06] <SuperMiguel> a mean
[07:06] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: because they make assumptions about architecture, repos, versions, etc.
[07:06] <SuperMiguel> what does automatix does, just type on the terminal what you should on the manual mode?
[07:07] <hoelk> hmm automatix is a good way for installing more fonts
[07:07] <hoelk> ;)
[07:07] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: I am trying to cp the file ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz in to /lib/firmware. How do i do this
[07:07] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: the "what you should" is the sticky point
[07:07] <SuperMiguel> how does automatix install frostwire?
[07:07] <SuperMiguel> apt-get install frostwire
[07:07] <SuperMiguel> how do you do it on the manual mode ?
[07:07] <SuperMiguel> Lurch21: you what to copy the tgz file or the one extracted?
[07:08] <hoelk> cool people use "aptitude install frostwire", aptitude remembers dependencies
[07:08] <hoelk> for uninstall
[07:08] <SuperMiguel> hoelk: so why automatix is bad?
[07:09] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: I just extracted the file using tar -xvzf /tmp/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz
[07:09] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: to get Frostwire to work you need Sun's Java (which means agreeing to the Sun license), you need your default Java changed to Sun's JRE, and you need Frostwire downloaded and installed. a script can seriously, seriously mess this up and leave a user with *no* functional JVM.
[07:09] <lwarimav> hi all
[07:09] <SuperMiguel> mnepton: you got your point :)
[07:10] <JNeverMind> "apt-get install build-essentials, idl the latest kernel from kernel.org and i am getting errors, make menuconfig is not working
[07:10] <AWOSDev> I need help with the sequencer, it seems fairly dead.
[07:10] <SuperMiguel> Lurch21: so somewhere should be a file name ipw2200-fw...
[07:10] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: i'll even go so far as to say "just do as i say" on this issue. and that's something i really, *really* don't like doing. at all.
[07:10] <Lurch21> The file was downloaded into my tmp
[07:10] <Ninja562> that upgrade +Update takes a bit, must be a slow connection
[07:10] <SuperMiguel> mnepton: are you mad?
[07:11] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: not at all. should i be?
[07:11] <SuperMiguel> mnepton: i dont mind xD
[07:11] <SuperMiguel> im jst wanted to know
[07:11] <SuperMiguel> just*
[07:12] <SuperMiguel> mnepron can i ask you something?
[07:12] <gnychis> how can i get an application to run on bootup? like synergy?
[07:12] <AWOSDev> What other information may you need to render this problem fixed?
[07:12] <mikm[laptop] > gnychis Running gnome?
[07:12] <lwarimav> I have a problem with my usb drive. When i put in my usd flash, and click on my computer, it can be read. When i try lsusb, it listed me my usb drives... So what should i do?
[07:12] <gnychis> mikm[laptop] : yes
[07:12] <mikm[laptop] > gnychis System -> Preferences -> Session Manager
[07:12] <mikm[laptop] > Err Sessions
[07:13] <mikm[laptop] > Go to the startup programs tab
[07:13] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: i think you just did. :)
[07:13] <SuperMiguel> besides http, ftp, ssh server which is a good server for a server computer?
[07:13] <SuperMiguel> or a really useful server
[07:13] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: if you mean "can i ask you something else besides 'can i ask you something'?" then the answer is "yes" ;)
[07:13] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: what code should i use to cp ipw2200 from my tmp to /lib/firmware
[07:14] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel, that's easier, POP/SMTP.
[07:14] <Hmmmm> hi guys, my terminal has some weird setting for keyboard. any idea how i can run the setup the keyboard layout for the CLI again?
[07:14] <SuperMiguel> sudo cp -a ipw2200 /lib/firmware
[07:14] <AWOSDev> lwarimav, hopefully you typed your question wrong -- is there really a problem with it reading it?
[07:14] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: i don't use FTP. but ssh, an httpd, mysql, and php/python/ruby are de rigeur for me
[07:14] <OmniD> Hey guys how would I bridge a wifi connection?
[07:14] <SuperMiguel> ryby?
[07:14] <snoops> SuperMiguel, samba, nfs
[07:15] <SuperMiguel> ruby?
[07:15] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: http://ruby-lang.org
[07:15] <SuperMiguel> !ruby
[07:15] <snoops> ruby is a language, not a protocol
[07:15] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[07:15] <AWOSDev> I still say POP/SMTP is useful
[07:15] <gnychis> mikm[laptop] :  actually, how do i get it at boot time, not on login?
[07:15] <SuperMiguel> AWOSDev: mail server?
[07:15] <Hmmmm> guys, my terminal has some weird setting for keyboard. any idea how i can run the setup the keyboard layout for the CLI again?
[07:16] <lwarimav> AWOSDev, yes there is a problem reading it. now I know that there is a command that will open it. But i do not know which is it...
[07:16] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel, exactly!  :)
[07:16] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: This happend sudo cp -a ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/lib/firmware
[07:16] <Lurch21> cp: missing destination file operand after `ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/lib/firmware'
[07:16] <Lurch21> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[07:16] <snoops> no point putting stuff on a server if it's not going to be used..the whole point of a server is to do the job it's meant for, as fast as possible..there's a reason the ubuntu one doesn't come with a gui
[07:16] <AWOSDev> lwarimav, mount maybe?
[07:16] <mikm[laptop] > gnychis Not sure.  Better ask somebody smarter/more experienced.
[07:16] <AWOSDev> Lurch21, try "sudo cp -a ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz /lib/firmware"
[07:17] <AWOSDev> with a space between "tgz" and "/lib/firmware" :)
[07:17] <Lam_> anyone here ever got knetworkmanager and ndiswrapper working correctly together?  mine stalls at 28%
[07:18] <silly_girl21> i have a vagina
[07:18] <AWOSDev> Please, does anybody know how to fix a MIDI problem?  Depending on which application I run I get different errors.  KMid gives "another application may be using it" and rosegarden gives "open /dev/snd/seq failed: Permission denied" followed by "waiting for Sequencer to come up" endless times
[07:18] <lwarimav> AWOSDev, I not a pro of linux so i do not know mush about the command. but if you do, can you tell how???
[07:18] <darnell_> classy
[07:18] <AWOSDev> !ops
[07:18] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:19] <AWOSDev> Ops, I believe a ban for silly_girl is in order.
[07:19] <Hmmmm> !kezboard
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kezboard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <Hmmmm> !kezboard
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kezboard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <AWOSDev> lwarimav -- I'm not sure what /dev/ file your USB is using.
[07:19] <AWOSDev> !keyboard
[07:19] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[07:19] <SuperMiguel> !keyboard
[07:19] <AWOSDev> :)
[07:20] <SuperMiguel> any one use vmware server?
[07:20] <AWOSDev> lwarimav -- I need to know what /dev/ file it is using, and what File System (e.g. FAT?  ext3?) it is using before I can give you the command.
[07:20] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel -- Yuck!
[07:20] <SuperMiguel> what is qemu?
[07:20] <AWOSDev> !info qemu
[07:20] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[07:20] <AWOSDev> !qemu
[07:20] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:21] <SuperMiguel> what is the difference?
[07:21] <BHSPitLappy> SuperMiguel, I've used vmware player, (free)
[07:21] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel, Qemu is free as in freedom.
[07:21] <SuperMiguel> what is the good thing about vmware server?
[07:22] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel, uh, it costs $$$$ and makes an IT budget look good?
[07:22] <BHSPitLappy> qemu seems more functional
[07:22] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: I used this sudo su cp/path/to/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/tmp/firmware
[07:22] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, moneywise, they're both free,
[07:22] <dEmoNio> hi i was wanting to know if there was anyway to launch a dir to Nautilus via terminal ??
[07:22] <SuperMiguel> sudo su cp/path/to/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz /tmp/firmware
[07:22] <SuperMiguel> dEmoNio: ls
[07:23] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: and got this Unknown id: cp/path/to/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/tmp/firmware
[07:23] <Dr_willis> mnepton,  that thing still exists? gesh
[07:23] <mnepton> Dr_willis: probably a better upgrade path for VB6 users than is VB.NET
[07:24] <mnepton> Dr_willis: and as such, i expect we'll get at least a couple customers using it. while not supported, i'd still like to know about it.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> mnepton,  heh - whatebver happened to that Kylix. :)
[07:24] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: How do i know the file has been cp
[07:24] <dEmoNio> SuperMiguel i want to open a folder like /home/user/downloads through the terminal
[07:25] <snoops> kylix, same as delphi..same as borland have basically dropped off the planet
[07:25] <AWOSDev> Lurch21, no errors = it's been cp'ed :)
[07:25] <SuperMiguel> cd /home/user/downloadd
[07:25] <dEmoNio> yes but i want it to open in Nautilus
[07:25] <mnepton> Dr_willis: anything Borland makes me vomit into my mouth a little
[07:25] <Dr_willis> borland - theres a company that managed to hang on and still never get a clue. :)
[07:26] <mnepton> Dr_willis: their corporate immune system kills "clues" and "good ideas" and "customer value" on contact
[07:26] <mikedamann> hello
[07:27] <dEmoNio> SuperMiguel exactly like you said but i want it opening up with the defualt file browser
[07:28] <BHSPitLappy> how does one change the default music player/
[07:29] <SuperMiguel> gksudo nautilus
[07:29] <dEmoNio> BHSPitLappy i think you can right click > properties > open with
[07:30] <BHSPitLappy> dementt, right, but that's for individual file types
[07:30] <BHSPitLappy> there's one for gnome in general
[07:30] <BHSPitLappy> and I haven't a clue how to change it
[07:31] <julian> wat file system you ppl using
[07:31] <AWOSDev> Ext3
[07:31] <AWOSDev> ReiserFS on my other Linux (SuSE)
[07:31] <virtual-stargaze> julian: ext3, swap (duh), and ntfs
[07:31] <BHSPitLappy> reiserfs
[07:31] <AWOSDev> But for mission critical data I use ext3
[07:32] <BHSPitLappy> ext3 FTL
[07:32] <julian> ever try xfs
[07:32] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, what's wrong with ext3?
[07:32] <julian> its slow
[07:32] <BHSPitLappy> I think there's more of a windows accessibility for reiserfs than there is for ext3
[07:32] <AWOSDev> I tried to access my ReiserFS once from Windows
[07:33] <AWOSDev> IRQL_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL
[07:33] <AWOSDev> or maybe it was KERNEL_PAGE_FAULT
[07:33] <julian> blue screen?
[07:33] <AWOSDev> STOP error
[07:33] <AWOSDev> yes
[07:33] <julian> ugh i hate that
[07:33] <AWOSDev> But ext3 came up straight away
[07:33] <julian> reboot
[07:33] <AWOSDev> Tried three times
[07:33] <AWOSDev> still no dice :(
[07:34] <snoops> there's the ext2 driver for windows to read ext2 and ext3 partitions - full read/write support at fs-driver.org
[07:34] <snoops> not sure if it works in vista or not
[07:35] <AWOSDev> This is the one I tried: http://rfsd.sourceforge.net/
[07:35] <dEmoNio> SuperMiguel thanks i figured it out i can just do nautilus /home/blah and it will open there
[07:35] <AWOSDev> Vista?  heh you people...Vista doesn't even have a DDK out yet...
[07:35] <AWOSDev> it *couldn't* support Vista
[07:36] <julian> anyone use beep media player
[07:36] <AWOSDev> Nope, VLC + amaroK for me
[07:37] <snoops> ddk AWOSDev?
[07:37] <julian> hmmm trying to figure out how to dock it in panel
[07:37] <AWOSDev> snoops, Driver Development Kit
[07:37] <snoops> ah, right..
[07:38] <snoops> well, *most* things on xp will work on vista..hence my remark
[07:38] <t0mazrage> hi
[07:38] <AWOSDev> Hello t0mazrage.
[07:38] <mikedamann> is anyone familiar with aptana IDE installation on ubuntu?
[07:39] <AWOSDev> Um no, personally I use Kdevelop (which is in the repos)
[07:39] <t0mazrage> im looking for help, i want to install obuntu in my pc...but i have some questions...
[07:39] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage, alright go ahead and ask.
[07:39] <julian> yes yes, windows sux
[07:39] <Jbirk> I just installed the adobe reader
[07:39] <Jbirk> I have a problem though
[07:40] <t0mazrage> can i install HP 1510 All in ONE?
[07:40] <Jbirk> How do I get it to work with firefox?
[07:40] <AWOSDev> Jbirk in what way?
[07:40] <AWOSDev> !printers
[07:40] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:40] <t0mazrage> my RADEON 9250 AGP card its compatible?
[07:40] <Jbirk> I want firefox to open PDF files from within firefox
[07:40] <Jbirk> via Acroread
[07:40] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage 99% of the RADEONs are
[07:40] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, yes. eeeeasily.
[07:40] <AWOSDev> Jbirk well, uh, no clue.
[07:41] <BHSPitLappy> the printer I mean
[07:41] <t0mazrage> ok
[07:41] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage the PSC 1510 is fully supported.
[07:41] <AWOSDev> as of Breezy even.
[07:41] <AWOSDev> (previous version)
[07:41] <t0mazrage> i try mandrake about 4 years ago, the 8 version... and its great(free) but, i had a lot of problems with the drivers...
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, believe me, this is much different.
[07:42] <AWOSDev> Yeah Linux 4 years ago didn't really support my computer either.
[07:42] <t0mazrage> so, i think ubuntu is a good option
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu is way better than mandriva even
[07:42] <Jbirk> Yes
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, I think it's the best option.
[07:42] <t0mazrage> im from mexico.. and nobody wants to try linux, just windows windows windows
[07:42] <Jbirk> question
[07:42] <AWOSDev> Yes very good for people new to Linux and "old hats" too.
[07:42] <Jbirk> Same in teh USA
[07:42] <Jbirk> NObody wants to try Linux
[07:42] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage, good for you pioneering Mexican Linux :)
[07:43] <t0mazrage> jajaja
[07:43] <Jbirk> I still rely on windows
[07:43] <BHSPitLappy> I have all my close friends willing to switch completely to ubuntu
[07:43] <AWOSDev> Jbirk, not really, I know lots of people here in the States that use Linux.
[07:43] <BHSPitLappy> two of them, I have already done so with
[07:43] <t0mazrage> i know some ppl.. about 3 or 4 who hads ubuntus..
[07:43] <julian> ppl dont want to bother to learn something new
[07:43] <Jbirk> I can't get all the buttons working on my mouse
[07:43] <Jbirk> I serriously need hlep with that
[07:43] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, that's surprising, though, given that... well, there are a lot of low-income areas.
[07:44] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, yeah most everyone I know uses Linux, except one, and she's still using Windows 98.  Won't take 2000 or Linux, or anything.  stuck with 98...*sigh*
[07:44] <BHSPitLappy> well, it's not surprising. linux isn't really common knowledge.
[07:44] <BHSPitLappy> haha
[07:44] <t0mazrage> well, i'll try ubuntu, im downloading it rigth now...
[07:44] <BHSPitLappy> well, it's not a terrible choice within the windows world
[07:44] <AWOSDev> No, no 98 is alright, but still
[07:45] <BHSPitLappy> I'd personally take 2000 over 98
[07:45] <AWOSDev> oh heavens yes!
[07:45] <t0mazrage> another question, what about the network?... is easy?, i have a broadband router, 2 pcs, wireless.. what about that?
[07:45] <BHSPitLappy> the time I spent on 2000, I did fine
[07:45] <AWOSDev> I told her "how can you not love the little Linux penguin?"  she said "I do but if I let you install it I won't anymore."  LOL
[07:46] <julian> if only games were made for linux
[07:46] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, does one computer have a wired connection?
[07:46] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage, Yes networking is very easy.  I personally didn't even have to configure mine, save the static IP address.
[07:46] <t0mazrage> yes, this one
[07:46] <snoops> wireless is still a bit problematic in linux
[07:46] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, wireless is actually a b**** often.
[07:46] <slide> Has anyone used libapache2_mod_auth_mysql ? It appears that this mod gets forked a lot and the config options one site says work dont work with this one, is there anyway I can download the source for this package?
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> it's an issue with ubuntu I'm personally very unhappy with
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, you'll be fine with the wired one
[07:47] <snoops> it's an issue with all distros BHSPitLappy
[07:47] <AWOSDev> Oh I wasn't talking about WLANs, personally mine is still not working.
[07:47] <AWOSDev> I'm talking on my *desktop*
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> snoops, indeed, but that's no excuse for ubuntu to be lazy/inactive about it
[07:47] <t0mazrage> ok, so the wireless network is a problem with ubuntu?
[07:48] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: the only big problem i see is lack of easy WPA. which means inexperienced users get stuck with a wired connection until they get network-manager-$DISPLAY_MANAGER
[07:48] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, for the other computer, you'll have to install some more apps
[07:48] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: i hope to have that addressed for Edy+1 at the UDS in a few weeks
[07:48] <julian> my laptop was supported out of box
[07:48] <normal> I'm able to boot  the install CDs of Suse, Gentoo, Knoppix, and Fedora Core, but not one Ubuntu....But I want it!
[07:48] <snoops> t0mazrage it's dependant on chipsets of your wireless card.. the intel ones on laptops are fairly easy..but I think the point is, it's not plug and playy
[07:48] <mnepton> t0mazrage: depends on your wireless card and authentication schema
[07:48] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, the sad part is, often a desktop will be -stuck- dependent on wireless.
[07:48] <t0mazrage> ok, but is posible?... i know this gonna be hard to learn, but i want to try.. so, is posible?
[07:49] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, probably. have faith :)
[07:49] <rredd4> is there a way to disable the bongo drums sound before the login screen in dapper?
[07:49] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, will you be dual-booting the PC(s)?
[07:49] <t0mazrage> no
[07:49] <BHSPitLappy> rredd4, turn off your speakers?
[07:49] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: in that case someone could always resort to WEP instead of WPA until they get a network-manager package. but it's still not elegant.
[07:49] <t0mazrage> i want to forget about windows.. hehe
[07:49] <OmniD> blaaaah
[07:50] <t0mazrage> i'll try... i swear..
[07:50] <normal> I just tried the Oct15 Edgy and it is added to my 'unable to boot' list..This doesn't bode well for the final working either, huh?
[07:50] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, oh, well... maybe you should do this computer first, and then we'll work on the second computer.
[07:50] <BHSPitLappy> just hold off for now
[07:50] <AWOSDev> rredd4, KDM?
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, maybe even wait for Edgy, on the other computer? it will only be another week or so
[07:51] <SpaceFrog> has anyone managed to get Photoshop CS2 working in Wine?
[07:51] <rredd4> AwosDev laptop  gdm
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> and edgy might suit the wireless pc better
[07:51] <snoops> yep SpaceFrog
[07:51] <t0mazrage> ok..
[07:51] <AWOSDev> rredd4, I know, that was a suggestion in the form of a question...meaning...have you tried KDM?
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, there's a little tutorial for it somewhere
[07:51] <snoops> there was an article about it on digg yesterday.. let me go get it
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> google it. photoshop cs2 wine
[07:51] <rredd4> BHSPitLappy  using a laptop cannot shut off speakers
[07:51] <SpaceFrog> i'll take a look
[07:52] <AWOSDev> GIYF...
[07:52] <BHSPitLappy> it's a pretty simple process, if you have the windows box available SpaceFrog
[07:52] <rredd4> AwosDev no, can i in kdm?
[07:52] <AWOSDev> rredd4, no bongos at all in KDM.
[07:52] <mnepton> SpaceFrog: are you a graphics pre-press professional?
[07:52] <rredd4> AwosDev ok
[07:52] <SpaceFrog> mnepton: No
[07:52] <t0mazrage> to share files and folders with windows pc? i remember when i had the mandrake, i had to install the samba server... is the same with ubunut?
[07:52] <t0mazrage> ubuntu*
[07:52] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, System>Administration>Login Window
[07:53] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, third tab.
[07:53] <snoops> SpaceFrog http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/2006/10/10/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps/
[07:53] <BHSPitLappy> whoops
[07:53] <BHSPitLappy> rredd4, read my last few messages to SpaceFrog
[07:53] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, sorry :)
[07:54] <mnepton> SpaceFrog: it is my experience that only such people need what P-shop offers that GIMP does not
[07:54] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, I think switching to kdm is a bit extravagant of a suggestion.  especially considering his need is an implemented setting
[07:54] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, ehh, it's arguable.
[07:54] <SpaceFrog> mnepton: I expected someone to say that, but all i can say is that I prefer photoshop
[07:55] <BHSPitLappy> gimp really doesn't match up to the ease-of-use features of cs
[07:55] <rredd4> BHSPitLappy ok
[07:55] <SpaceFrog> agreed
[07:55] <mnepton> yeah, but $500/year is a good incentive to learn something new.
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, you'll hear a lot of "Why not try the opensource variant instead!" in here, but it's your choice to run your software if you want.
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, #wineHQ deals with wine, by the way
[07:56] <snoops> well, the gimp is far behind in things like plugins, cmyk colour support etc..but well, you pay for what you get :). Good luck on the tutorial SpaceFrog
[07:56] <Anubuntu> heyo, I have a 5gig file that I need to get from ubuntu to windows. there is only an ntfs and several ext3 partitions on the drive, no network I can transfer it over, and no dvds to burn with.
[07:56] <Anubuntu> any ideas how to achieve this?
[07:57] <julian> 3g-driver
[07:57] <mikm[laptop] > Anubuntu there are tools floating around that let you read ext2/3 partitions in windows
[07:58] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, if you're a paid customer, you might want to use that stock to write a nice email to adobe about getting the Linux platform supported in their software.
[07:58] <Anubuntu> I had Explore2fs, but it crashes whenever I try to take a big file over.
[07:58] <BHSPitLappy> it means less when a pirate writes the e-mail, though.
[07:58] <krazykit> Anubuntu: ntfs-3g
[07:58] <jasper`> BHSPitLappy, hasn't Disney already successfully ported it?
[07:58] <mnepton> Anubuntu: http://fs-driver.org
[07:58] <BHSPitLappy> I've been meaning to try ntfs-3g
[07:58] <BHSPitLappy> jasper`, huh?
[07:58] <SpaceFrog> BHSPitLappy: Thanks
[07:59] <jasper`> I'm fairly certain Disney managed to run Photoshop on Linux.
[07:59] <snoops> Anubuntu go to fs-driver.org for a ext2 which also supports ext3 partitions for full read/write support on windows
[07:59] <snoops> ext2 driver*
[07:59] <julian> maybe using crossover office
[07:59] <mnepton> jasper`: i'm prtettyy sure Macrodobe did not give Disney the Photoshop source ;)
[07:59] <mnepton> *pretty
[07:59] <jasper`> Big fuss a year or two about it, they weren't willing to pay ridiculous money on fees to MS etc.
[08:00] <jasper`> mnepton, the way I understood it they hadn't.
[08:00] <mnepton> jasper`: so how do you port code you don't have?
[08:00] <mnepton> (neat trick, if it works)
[08:00] <AWOSDev> mnepton, ndisasm :)
[08:00] <jasper`> I believe they ran it through their own polished version of wine.
[08:01] <mnepton> my eyes! the goggles do nossing!
[08:01] <AWOSDev> Huh?
[08:01] <mnepton> "ndisasm"
[08:01] <t0mazrage> the last question today, ubuntu is compatible with hp lasserjet printers?.. can i get or see a list of compatible models.?
[08:01] <mnepton> horrific.
[08:01] <jasper`> http://www.google.com/search?q=disney+photoshop+linux&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
[08:01] <mnepton> t0mazrage: http://linux-printing.org
[08:02] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage, also, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[08:02] <mnepton> ooops
[08:02] <mnepton> t0mazrage: http://linuxprinting.org
[08:02] <rredd4> BHSPitLappy ty!! that is a better solution then changing to kdm... !
[08:02] <jasper`> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1210083,00.asp 3 years ago, should have it nicely tweaked by now.
[08:03] <BHSPitLappy> rredd4, no prob
[08:03] <SpaceFrog> jasper': Photoshop 7.0 runs pretty decently in Linux, but CS2 doesn't even install.
[08:04] <snoops> SpaceFrog yeah it does..just look at the guide I pasted to you
[08:04] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, using the guide?
[08:05] <AWOSDev> Wow jasper` that was an interesting article.
[08:05] <t0mazrage> ok BHSPitLappy, mnepton and AWOSDev... thanks a lot for your help, and remember me because i'll back quickly as i get a trouble.. hehe
[08:05] <BHSPitLappy> heh.
[08:05] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage, np, and go ahead :)
[08:06] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, is english your second language, by the way?
[08:06] <SpaceFrog> still following the guide. It tells me to install to Windows and then copy the dir over to LInux. It's a work-around for the installer problems.
[08:06] <t0mazrage> nah.. hahaha, i just try to speak english... i write better in spanish.. hehe
[08:06] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, no, because your English is awesome
[08:07] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage, you speak better than some native English speakers I've seen :)
[08:07] <t0mazrage> but yes, im mexican.. i live in the north, near the us border...
[08:07] <BlueBoar> lol
[08:07] <snoops> SpaceFrog yeah, it's a problem with drm/activation/security that adobe put in cs2
[08:07] <BlueBoar> nv, wrong window
[08:07] <BHSPitLappy> couldn't even tell it wasn't native
[08:07] <BHSPitLappy> wish my spanish was that fluent.
[08:08] <t0mazrage> hehehe... watch spanish movies... the tip.. hehe
[08:08] <krazykit> wish my german were fluent :-/
[08:09] <levander> Any idea how to set up an X11 font server?  For use by Xming?
[08:09] <t0mazrage> you help me with ubuntu, i'll help you with the spanish.. hehe
[08:09] <BHSPitLappy> I don't think you can, heh.
[08:09] <levander> BHSPitLappy: you talking to me?
[08:09] <BHSPitLappy> no
[08:10] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy was talking to t0mazrage, levander
[08:10] <t0mazrage> ok, see you guys, and thanks again... good nigth..
[08:10] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, maybe in a week or two you'll be helping people in the Spanish ubuntu channel
[08:10] <BHSPitLappy> buenas noches
[08:10] <t0mazrage> sure..
[08:10] <t0mazrage> hehe
[08:10] <t0mazrage> bye bye
[08:10] <AWOSDev> Bye!
[08:11] <preaction> is it bad that i consider apt-get and apt-cache easier than synaptic?
[08:12] <mikm[laptop] > No :)
[08:12] <levander> preaction: use aptitude instead of apt-get, it has more features (like tracks which packages were installed for which paackages).  aptitude is command line just like apt-get
[08:12] <AWOSDev> preaction, I personally find the CLI easier than the GUI.
[08:12] <levander> preaction: the command line syntax is very similar, I haven't noticed any differences yet
[08:13] <julian> has anyone used parsix?
[08:13] <DtTvB> Hello there, I have a wide-screen monitor and I want to change the desktop resolution, but my preferred resolution isn't listed, can you tell me how can I change it?
[08:13] <julian> what video driver are u using dttvb
[08:13] <DtTvB> I don't know.
[08:14] <DtTvB> It's on another computer.
[08:14] <julian> go into terminal and type "fglrxinfo"
[08:14] <DtTvB> OK.
[08:15] <DtTvB> "bash: fglrxinfo: command nor found."
[08:15] <jasper`> Do they abuse@ departments of ISPs actually bother reading syslog extracts they're sent!?! I'm beginning to think the whole thing is a stale charade.
[08:15] <adammk> help i selected Configure network later when installing ubuntu and now i can't get ethernet working (i can't connect to the internet at all). I also have a wireless LAN card (it's a laptop), but i can't get that working either
[08:16] <jasper`> adammk, presumably your machine is a client of a DHCP enabled server?
[08:16] <adammk> yes i think so
[08:17] <jasper`> adammk, sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[08:17] <julian> wat kind of video card do u have
[08:17] <jasper`> auto eth0
[08:17] <jasper`> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:17] <jasper`> adammk, those two lines occur yes?
[08:18] <DtTvB> It's NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200. I just know.
[08:18] <julian> oh
[08:18] <julian> sorry i only know about ati cards
[08:18] <DtTvB> OK.
[08:18] <adammk> all it says is loopback network interface
[08:19] <jasper`> adammk, alright, well add them then.
[08:19] <reduz> Question - how can I enable bad block scanning on the ubuntu installer?
[08:19] <DtTvB> Can I edit a system file?
[08:19] <jasper`> adammk, Then we'll check the card is actually recognised by the system. If it is, we'll use a command to bring it up.
[08:20] <adammk> how? what? isn't there a way to do the auto DHCP configuration again, like it does when intalling ubuntu?
[08:20] <jasper`> adammk, probably but this is the quickest approach.
[08:20] <adammk> yes it's recognized
[08:21] <jasper`> adammk, after you've done sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces you'll need to strike the i key (puts you into insert mode), add those two lines at the bottom of the file, hit escape then type :wq and enter.
[08:22] <jasper`> adammk, then you'll be back in the terminal. `ifup eth0` should bring the card up.
[08:22] <adammk> add what 2 lines?
[08:22] <jasper`> auto eth0
[08:22] <jasper`> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:24] <reduz> ah awesome
[08:24] <reduz> the ubuntu installer does not even come with badblocks
[08:24] <adammk> k hang on i only have 1 ethernet cord so brb if it doesn't work
[08:24] <reduz> so Question, how do I install into a disk that has a few broken sectors?
[08:24] <sivik> exit
[08:29] <AWOSDev> reduz, uh, carefully?  :)
[08:30] <Sail_to_the_moon> has wine ever worked?
[08:30] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[08:30] <AWOSDev> Hard to say really.
[08:30] <AWOSDev> in 2003 it was alright
[08:30] <Sail_to_the_moon> i just want to play css
[08:30] <BHSPitLappy> lol, that's a small thing to ask right
[08:31] <Sail_to_the_moon> yeah
[08:31] <AWOSDev> CSS is...?
[08:31] <Sail_to_the_moon> counter strike source
[08:31] <BHSPitLappy> reduz, 1) Remove disk, 2) Discard disk, 3) Purchase new disk, 4) Install new disk, 5) Boot to Ubuntu CD and run installer
[08:31] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy :P
[08:31] <avagant> Haha.
[08:31] <BHSPitLappy> I'm not kidding
[08:31] <Sail_to_the_moon> thats what i thought
[08:31] <AWOSDev> Sail_to_the_moon if you have the source then just port it.
[08:31] <BHSPitLappy> haha
[08:31] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, I know, it's funny becuase it's true!  :)
[08:32] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, that's not what the "source" means in the title, unfortunatelt
[08:32] <AWOSDev> Oh
[08:32] <BHSPitLappy> unfortunately
[08:32] <Sail_to_the_moon> source is the engine
[08:32] <reduz> BHSPitLappy, easy to say for people like you, that lives in a country where hard drives are cheap
[08:32] <BHSPitLappy> ironically closed-source XD
[08:32] <Sail_to_the_moon> it happens
[08:32] <AWOSDev> reduz, where do you live?
[08:32] <reduz> AWOSDev, Argentina
[08:33] <AWOSDev> reduz, hmm I think Newegg might ship there...
[08:33] <BHSPitLappy> oh yes, hard drives are typically freely available in large bowls with candy at banks and pharmacies.
[08:33] <reduz> AWOSDev, newegg?
[08:33] <BHSPitLappy> newegg.com
[08:33] <BHSPitLappy> <3
[08:33] <AWOSDev> reduz, popular Geeky site.
[08:33] <AWOSDev> :)
[08:33] <BHSPitLappy> them and tigerdirect
[08:33] <Sail_to_the_moon> pricewatch.com
[08:33] <BHSPitLappy> pricewatch.com is a loser
[08:34] <Sail_to_the_moon> its worked for me
[08:34] <reduz> BHSPitLappy, AWOSDev: No go, it's not that things are expensive here, but the country is heavily devaluated. So what is cheap for you, is expensive for me
[08:34] <BHSPitLappy> I don't trust it
[08:34] <AWOSDev> reduz, Ohhhhhhhhhhh
[08:34] <AWOSDev> reduz, oh okay
[08:34] <AWOSDev> reduz, then nvm :)
[08:34] <BHSPitLappy> still, I think you're SOL with that drive
[08:35] <BHSPitLappy> it's only going to get worse.
[08:35] <reduz> so, I want to instal ubuntu into this disk that has a few bad sectors but other than that has been running fine.. so.. how do I run badblocks in the ubuntu installer?
[08:35] <Sail_to_the_moon> winex is cedega now? :(
[08:35] <AWOSDev> I had a hard drive once with only three bad sectors.
[08:35] <AWOSDev> Nine months later, hold thing *literally* died.
[08:35] <AWOSDev> No more files.
[08:35] <AWOSDev> Boom.
[08:35] <AWOSDev> Gone.
[08:35] <BHSPitLappy> "once" is the keyword
[08:35] <AWOSDev> backed up, uh, about a year and a half prior
[08:36] <JDStone> AWOSDev: don't feel too bad, I just lost 150GB of data about a week ago
[08:36] <mnepton> reduz: i attempted to move my server to another drive this weekend and got a ton of CRCcheck fails. i just trashed the drive. it's obviously not something to which i wanted to entrust my data.
[08:36] <AWOSDev> JDStone, noooooooo!  What happened?
[08:36] <AWOSDev> In my case, power company.  Buzzzzzzz
[08:36] <reduz> AWOSDev, mnepton: this thing had the same bad sectors for 5 years, it really works fine
[08:36] <AWOSDev> that's what caused the original three bas sectors.
[08:36] <JDStone> well, I backed up my data, created the RAID 1 array and my data was still there, so I deleted the backup
[08:36] <JDStone> then in the morning, everything was gone
[08:36] <SpaceFrog> I have a windows text file, how can i convert it so i can open it in Linux?
[08:36] <Sail_to_the_moon> reduz, dont feel bad i slicked 130GB of usefull stuff to give myself a crashcourse into linux
[08:37] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[08:37] <BHSPitLappy> Lesson 1, "sudo rm -rf /"
[08:37] <AWOSDev> Transformer blew on the street next to me - that caused the original three bad sectors.  then nine months later, poof gone.
[08:37] <AWOSDev> JDStone, oops!  :)
[08:37] <Sail_to_the_moon> lol
[08:37] <JDStone> yep
[08:37] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy LOL
[08:37] <JDStone> AWOSDev: that's right, oops
[08:37] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, uhh, double click on it?
[08:38] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, good text editors should open it just fine (at least, Emacs does).
[08:38] <AWOSDev> SpaceFrog, you have to convert it?  News to me.
[08:38] <SpaceFrog> its a .reg file
[08:38] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, you can use "fromdos" at the commandline, if that doesn't work
[08:38] <AWOSDev> Kate, gedit, Emacs, vi, nano, anything.
[08:38] <BHSPitLappy> oh, you said text file.
[08:38] <BHSPitLappy> that's a registry file
[08:38] <BHSPitLappy> yuck
[08:38] <AWOSDev> SpaceFrog, why do you want a .reg file on your Linux?  Trust me, it *WON'T* work.  :P
[08:38] <BHSPitLappy> just follow that  guide
[08:38] <SpaceFrog> AWOSDev: Wine, man
[08:38] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, it's part of how you get CS2 to work in win
[08:38] <AWOSDev> SpaceFrog, ohhhhhhhh
[08:39] <AWOSDev> SpaceFrog, on the command line, "wine regedit.exe"
[08:39] <BHSPitLappy> just follow the guide exactly
[08:39] <AWOSDev> SpaceFrog, hopefully you can figure it out from there :)
[08:39] <SpaceFrog> thanks
[08:39] <Sail_to_the_moon> this whole terminal thing is intriguing
[08:40] <AWOSDev> Sail_to_the_moon, huh?
[08:40] <reduz> Sail_to_the_moon, that's the best way i guess
[08:40] <reduz> ahh damned crap
[08:40] <AWOSDev> reduz, Windows again?
[08:40] <AWOSDev> :P
[08:40] <reduz> the ubuntu live cd does not even detect the harddrive
[08:40] <reduz> but has badblocks, hehe
[08:40] <AWOSDev> reduz, please...you *need* a new hard drive.
[08:41] <AWOSDev> I mean don't you people have banks where you can get loans or something?
[08:41] <Sail_to_the_moon> haha
[08:41] <jacked> I want to boot DSL on top of Ubuntu (think VM). is this possible? if so, where do I start?
[08:41] <reduz> AWOSDev, at extremely high interest rates? yes
[08:41] <AWOSDev> jacked, Qemu.
[08:41] <AWOSDev> !qemu
[08:41] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:41] <reduz> AWOSDev, which take away everything you have if you skip a month by accumulating interests? definitely
[08:41] <jacked> AWOSDev: thanks
[08:41] <BHSPitLappy> wtf??? somebody in south carolina just called me, and then was silent, and hung up
[08:41] <BHSPitLappy> I don't know anybody in south carolina
[08:42] <Sail_to_the_moon> me neither
[08:42] <jacked> BHSPitLappy: that was me.
[08:42] <Sail_to_the_moon> thats weird
[08:42] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, it was somebody you helped on #Ubuntu, you killed his computer :P
[08:42] <AWOSDev> reduz, well I was just saying...you *need* a new hard drive.  No longer a question
[08:42] <AWOSDev> .
[08:42] <reduz> AWOSDev, but this one works fine
[08:42] <BHSPitLappy> jacked, :P
[08:43] <yiskah> may I ask a question?
[08:43] <BHSPitLappy> party's over, Seveas is here
[08:43] <reduz> AWOSDev, has been doing it for the last 5 years. I had drives die without having badsectors previously
[08:43] <jacked> yiskah: you may
[08:43] <BHSPitLappy> yiskah, have you paid the question fee?
[08:43] <jacked> LOL
[08:43] <jacked> 5 dolla, me answer long-time
[08:43] <BHSPitLappy> launchpad seems to indicate that you have not paid.
[08:43] <AWOSDev> I once had a lady call me, "is this whoever?"  No.  "what area code?"  I told her.  "oh I got it backwards, sorry!"   10 minutes later, same lady.  "is this whoever?"   Uh, no ma'am, you got me again.  "oh sorry!"
[08:43] <AWOSDev> :P
[08:44] <BHSPitLappy> lol dyslexic
[08:44] <kraut> moin
[08:44] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy yeah good point.
[08:44] <Sail_to_the_moon> i want to make a home brewery out of  water cooling kit
[08:44] <BHSPitLappy> homebrewed water?
[08:44] <jacked> yiskah: we are kidding around. we'd be happy to help if we can... for free, of course
[08:44] <Sail_to_the_moon> ii was thinking beer
[08:44] <yiskah> Ok I have a computer with an i810 video chip in it. The default ubuntu kernel install  says this. My problem is when I install the desktop gnome the only display resolution that comes up is 640x480. I am installing this for a friend and was wondering if there is a way to get that video chip to work with at least 800x600
[08:45] <BHSPitLappy> Sail_to_the_moon, do you even understand how to brew beer
[08:45] <Sail_to_the_moon> not yet
[08:45] <hastesaver> !fixres
[08:45] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:45] <jacked> 915resolution: install it
[08:45] <goofy> im trying to remove totem and it wants me to remove ubuntu-desktop is that ok
[08:45] <hastesaver> yiskah, try the tips at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:45] <AWOSDev> yiskah, I'm happy to report I have my i810 at 1280x1024.
[08:45] <jacked> yiskah:  915resolution: install it
[08:45] <AWOSDev> goofy yes.
[08:45] <BHSPitLappy> yes. 915resolution
[08:45] <BHSPitLappy> I just used it today
[08:45] <BHSPitLappy> for that purpose
[08:45] <goofy> ok...i thought it ment the gui
[08:46] <yiskah> ouch. could hmmm someone send that to me in a private window. My screen is scrooling like crazy.
[08:46] <SpaceFrog> BHSPitLappy: Well, i installed Photoshop fine but it closes after it starts.
[08:46] <SpaceFrog> only stays open for 5 seconds
[08:46] <BHSPitLappy> yiskah, that's this channel, usually.
[08:46] <reduz> aaaaaarrrrrrrggggg
[08:46] <AWOSDev> goofy, no, ubuntu-desktop is the "meta"-package for the whole default installation.
[08:46] <BHSPitLappy> ok seriously wt
[08:46] <BHSPitLappy> I just got another weird call, "Private number"
[08:46] <BHSPitLappy> but I declined
[08:47] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, he's at 640x480.  It would scroll pretty fast for you if you had 640x480 :P
[08:47] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, hmm, stalker?
[08:47] <BHSPitLappy> ha
[08:47] <reduz> well i give up, i'm getting a knoppix for formatting this thing, then i hope i can install ubuntu and that ubuntu will NOT TOUCH the partitions i make
[08:47] <jacked> yiskah: you've been PM'ed
[08:47] <BHSPitLappy> take THAT, braino
[08:47] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, you did that?
[08:47] <yiskah> hmmm. I must not have irssi setup could people be quiet for someone to resend that info?  and then I will qit and have it on my screen?
[08:47] <BHSPitLappy> reduz, you won't be able to format it.
[08:48] <BHSPitLappy> or, you'll have problems
[08:48] <jacked> yiskah:  915resolution: install it
[08:48] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, I'm just a badass
[08:48] <reduz> BHSPitLappy, I did it already with debian, so ubuntu should work fine
[08:48] <jacked> you may have to enable universe repos
[08:48] <reduz> BHSPitLappy, if I *CAN* format it
[08:48] <yiskah> oh that is all? ok thank you.
[08:48] <Sail_to_the_moon> knoppix is handy, qtparted
[08:48] <jacked> yiskah: that's it
[08:48] <jacked> then restart
[08:48] <BHSPitLappy> jacked, wait, you just have to install the program and restart??
[08:49] <BHSPitLappy> I installed and ran the command with the resolution I wanted
[08:49] <jacked> BHSPitLappy: yeah
[08:49] <ianmacgregor> Is it possible to hook up two monitors and have a DVD movie (MPlayer) playing on one and my desktop on the other?
[08:49] <jacked> BHSPitLappy: used to have to configure... not anymore
[08:49] <BHSPitLappy> ianmacgregor, it's difficult. what kind of video card
[08:49] <jacked> although, you can
[08:49] <reduz> i'd just make a partition over the area with the bad sectors, but it happens to be a few KB in the middle of the disk
[08:50] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: I hadn't purchased that yet, didn't want to until I found out if it was even possible.
[08:50] <blinker> is anyone here familiar with samba? I'm trying to set it up for access from windows xp
[08:50] <BHSPitLappy> well, since you have a choice, DON'T BUY ATI!!! get an nVidia.
[08:50] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: Waaay ahead of ya :) I only buy nvidia
[08:51] <AWOSDev> Is it "bash ATI" night?  Same fight happened few minutes ago on #ubuntu+1
[08:51] <BHSPitLappy> educated consumer FTW
[08:51] <jacked> blinker: have you looked at any of the tutorials on ubuntuforums.org, etc?
[08:51] <virtual-stargaze> blinker, Ubuntu does this out of the box
[08:51] <ianmacgregor> Aye!
[08:51] <jacked> lots of info on how to set that up properly
[08:51] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, silly friend, EVERY night is bash ATI night!
[08:51] <virtual-stargaze> At least, dapper drake did for me...
[08:51] <BHSPitLappy> you should.
[08:51] <ianmacgregor> hehe
[08:52] <jacked> blinker: vitual-stargaze is right... for basic config, should work by default
[08:52] <goofy> what is sound recorder called in synaptic or is it something i cant uninstall
[08:52] <blinker> jacked: no, not yet. virtual-stargaze: then how do i access from win?
[08:52] <AWOSDev> goofy, it's called, uh, sound-recorder?
[08:52] <AWOSDev> !info sound-recorder
[08:52] <ubotu> sound-recorder: Direct-to-disk recording and play-back programs.. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.06-7 (dapper), package size 53 kB, installed size 180 kB
[08:52] <virtual-stargaze> Access from win...haven't tried to set up for doing that yet.
[08:52] <AWOSDev> Yep it's called sound-recorder
[08:52] <jacked> blinker: Places > Network Places
[08:52] <goofy> i didnt se it ...thanks any way
[08:52] <BHSPitLappy> ianmacgregor, despite the fact that it would be off-topic, the people in #ubuntu-xgl generally have a better knowledge of video card-related things in ubuntu
[08:52] <AWOSDev> with a *HYPEN* inbetween.
[08:52] <jacked> errr... Servers
[08:52] <ianmacgregor> goofy: You can uninstall it, I did.
[08:53] <virtual-stargaze> I tend to access my win shared folders from linux more than the oher way around.
[08:53] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: Oh? Ok, thanks
[08:53] <BHSPitLappy> np
[08:53] <AWOSDev> You know what I just realised?
[08:53] <BHSPitLappy> you need a new gfx card?
[08:53] <AWOSDev> NO!
[08:53] <AWOSDev> I mean yes.
[08:53] <AWOSDev> but NO.
[08:54] <ianmacgregor> hehe
[08:54] <AWOSDev> I came in here at 1:08am wanting MIDI help...it's 2:53am now, and I've helped three people but still don't know anything about MIDI.
[08:54] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, it's impossible. PROBLEM SOLVED
[08:54] <ianmacgregor> AWOSDev: That tends to happen.
[08:54] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, that sounds awesome
[08:54] <AWOSDev> ianmacgregor, happens *a lot* in my case.
[08:55] <AWOSDev> mnepton, where can I get one?  :)
[08:55] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: it is, i assure you. :)
[08:55] <jacked> AWOSDev: would be happy to help, but I know nothing about midi under linux.  if it's a general question, I might be able to help
[08:55] <AWOSDev> jacked, How do I get an external MIDI device to work under Linux?  oh...nvm
[08:56] <mnepton> AWOSDev: http://www.usr.com/products/networking/networking-product.asp?sku=USR8200
[08:56] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, external device?? keyboard?
[08:56] <AWOSDev> Yes.
[08:56] <BHSPitLappy> in like, noteedit or gscore or something?
[08:56] <AWOSDev> Casio LK-50 to be exact.
[08:56] <AWOSDev> Uh no
[08:56] <AWOSDev> I just want to play back to my MPU-401 port.
[08:56] <AWOSDev> *play back*
[08:56] <AWOSDev> No I have rosegarden
[08:56] <AWOSDev> that's my other problem
[08:57] <BHSPitLappy> well, there's a 99% chance you're SOL
[08:57] <BHSPitLappy> is your soundcard's midi chip really better sounding than your casio's?
[08:57] <jacked> AWOSDev: hmm... this is a question I'd like to know the answer to
[08:57] <AWOSDev> [01:17]  <AWOSDev> Please, does anybody know how to fix a MIDI problem?  Depending on which application I run I get different errors.  KMid gives "another application may be using it" and rosegarden gives "open /dev/snd/seq failed: Permission denied" followed by "waiting for Sequencer to come up" endless times
[08:57] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy -- huh?
[08:58] <Seveas> AWOSDev, snd_seq module loaded?
[08:58] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy I want to play back to my Casio.
[08:58] <jacked> BHSPitLappy: huh?
[08:58] <BHSPitLappy> ohh
[08:58] <AWOSDev> Seveas, you talk?  But you're a bot!?
[08:58] <BHSPitLappy> I thought you meant vice versa
[08:58] <AWOSDev> Seveas, yes.
[08:58] <Seveas> AWOSDev, when you get that error: fuser /dev/snd/seq
[08:58] <Seveas> then you can see which program has it open
[08:58] <jacked> AWOSDev: what soundcard are you using?
[08:58] <BHSPitLappy> my computer doesn't have MIDI output...
[08:59] <BHSPitLappy> just input
[08:59] <BHSPitLappy> I would really want to be able to do that
[08:59] <BHSPitLappy> use my yamaha for playback
[08:59] <AWOSDev> ESS Solo-1 ES1938
[08:59] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, creatively sadistic tonight?
[08:59] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: how is tonight different from any other? ;)
[09:00] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, in that I've never met you.
[09:00] <AWOSDev> Seveas, okay
[09:00] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: it's not too late to run away and pretend all of this never happened :)
[09:00] <AWOSDev> Okay exact message:
[09:01] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, does your card have a midi out jack, or do you have some kind of joystick cable?
[09:01] <BHSPitLappy> or usb
[09:01] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, yes the MIDI/Game port.
[09:01] <BHSPitLappy> interesting
[09:01] <AWOSDev> It does play back to the piano in Windows so I do know it works.
[09:01] <BHSPitLappy> my midi/game port cable is only for inupt
[09:01] <BHSPitLappy> well then you can probably just pipe it
[09:02] <AWOSDev> Could not open /dev/sequencer.  Probably there is another application using it.
[09:02] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, fuser it.
[09:02] <AWOSDev> fuser /dev/sequencer and /dev/snd/seq both output nothing.
[09:02] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, then we've reached an understanding.
[09:02] <BHSPitLappy> or, a lack thereof.
[09:02] <hellslinger> does anyone know if there is an apt source that has the xine and mplayer packages
[09:02] <mnepton> yes, that we are mutually unintelligible.
[09:03] <BHSPitLappy> \o/
[09:03] <DtTvB> Uhhh.. Are there any file that contain the screen resolution of the current user?
[09:03] <mnepton> wooo! consenus!
[09:03] <DtTvB> I wil try edit it.
[09:03] <AWOSDev> mnepton, are you from Wikipedia?  just asking...
[09:03] <mnepton> hellslinger: both should be in Uni/Multiverse
[09:03] <atrophic> Is there a graphical data modeling tool for linux?
[09:03] <BHSPitLappy> DtTvB, well, there's a setting in System>Preferences>Screen Resolution
[09:03] <DtTvB> I know.
[09:03] <AWOSDev> atrophic, like Visio?  or like Crystal Reports?
[09:03] <mnepton> AWOSDev: no, it's worse than that. i'm from Canonical. :)
[09:04] <DtTvB> But I want to change it to 1680x1050
[09:04] <AWOSDev> mnepton, even though I can't really say Wikipedia is "bad", I must LOL at that anyway :P
[09:04] <hellslinger> mnepton: I see entries in the /etc/apt/source.list of universe, is there a multiverse option?
[09:04] <BHSPitLappy> DtTvB, i810-based graphics card?
[09:05] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[09:05] <DtTvB> i810?
[09:05] <mnepton> hellslinger: enable them via your GUI package manager. easier, and less likely to do Something Bad(tm)
[09:05] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, he wasn't the one with the i810.
[09:05] <hellslinger> mnepton: oh there they are *doh*
[09:05] <BHSPitLappy> unoptimistic > pessimistic
[09:05] <DtTvB> I don't know. That's why I wanted to try editing it.
[09:05] <atrophic> AWOSDev, sure?  I don't know about Crystal Reports, but I'm sure Visio could pull off what I'm thinking of.  The windows tool I used was embadarco studio
[09:05] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, I know.
[09:05] <AWOSDev> Yiskah was
[09:05] <AWOSDev> oh okay
[09:05] <jacked> AWOSDev: this may be your answer  --->  http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ESS+Technology&card=3-d.&chip=ES1938+%28Solo-1%29%2C+ES1946+%28Solo-1E%29&module=es1938
[09:05] <Wazm> hi
[09:06] <BHSPitLappy> DtTvB, all I know of is /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but that's not user-specific. you can look there and see what driver you're using, though, in the "Device" section.
[09:06] <AWOSDev> atrophic, Crystal Reports is like data mining, prolly not what you're looking for...I have a tool like Visio, lemme go find it
[09:06] <DtTvB> OK.
[09:06] <BHSPitLappy> if it's i810, then download 915resolution
[09:06] <AWOSDev> jacked, "Could not connect to host alsa-project.org"
[09:06] <atrophic> DtTvB, /etc/X11/xorg.conf has all the available resolutions for your video card/monitor.  Be aware that just because you change it in there doesn't mean your hardware will support it.
[09:06] <DtTvB> OK.
[09:06] <DtTvB> I messed it up already. :P
[09:07] <jacked> AWOSDev: wow.  the site went down in the last 2 minutes
[09:07] <atrophic> AWOSDev, that's what I thought Crystal Reports was.  I just need a database visualization tool, essentially.  Where I can see tables, their fields, and their relations to other tables.  I don't care if it has any ability to export the model to SQL or anything, I'm just going to use it for planning purposes.
[09:07] <jacked> now THAT is bad luck
[09:07] <jacked> lol
[09:08] <AWOSDev> atrophic, the Visio-like tool is called Blender, it's in the main repo.
[09:08] <atrophic> DtTvB, you can reconfigure your xorg.conf file by running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' I believe
[09:08] <AWOSDev> jacked, :(
[09:08] <BHSPitLappy> blender is a 3d-modelling tool...
[09:08] <atrophic> AWOSDev, great, thanks for the info
[09:08] <AWOSDev> atrophic, oh........
[09:08] <jacked> AWOSDev: except, I've saved the page for you... will send it
[09:08] <AWOSDev> atrophic, not what you're looking for then
[09:08] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[09:08] <atrophic> AWOSDev, snaps
[09:08] <jacked> AWOSDev: your card requires a module to send
[09:09] <AWOSDev> atrophic kind of like SQL Server's relationship thingy
[09:09] <AWOSDev> ?
[09:09] <AWOSDev> jacked, ahhh
[09:09] <DtTvB> OK.
[09:09] <jacked> and this page tells you how to do that...
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> atrophic: dbdesigner4 ... fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/
[09:09] <jacked> one sec...
[09:09] <goofy> any sugestions for avi playback
[09:09] <atrophic> AWOSDev, yes, that's similar to what I want too.
[09:09] <BHSPitLappy> goofy, I open everything in gmplayer.
[09:09] <atrophic> fyrestrtr, thanks
[09:09] <goofy> alright thanks
[09:10] <AWOSDev> goofy, VLC FTW IMHO.
[09:10] <AWOSDev> That's the most acronyms I've used in a sentence not-on-purpose in my whole life :) :) :)
[09:10] <BHSPitLappy> VLC ftw also, but it doesn't always work.
[09:10] <Daemonik> BHSPitLappy, Hell yes VLC for the win.
[09:10] <BHSPitLappy> mplayer for the more win
[09:10] <BHSPitLappy> sometimes
[09:10] <BHSPitLappy> depending on what you need
[09:11] <AWOSDev> mplayer = DVD, VLC = everything else :)
[09:11] <Daemonik> BHSPitLappy, We should damn proprietary codecs.
[09:11] <goofy> vlc isnt playing correctly i get this green line at the top and color shifting
[09:11] <BHSPitLappy> sometimes vlc can't play something, or it screws it up.
[09:11] <BHSPitLappy> mplayer for dvd? wth
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> VLC for the win, mplayer for the "Finish Him" combo-with-extra-points style win.
[09:11] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[09:11] <atrophic> VLC with VC1 reference library for the win
[09:12] <Daemonik> BHSPitLappy, I'm going to lobby websites to offer Theora along with wmv and mov I hope you and others do too.
[09:12] <hastesaver> why would I want to use vlc over mplayer, BTW? (IOW, what am I missing?)
[09:12] <atrophic> VLC just isn't as good without support for wmv9, since so many sites use that now
[09:12] <hastesaver> or over xine, for that matter...
[09:12] <BHSPitLappy> hastesaver, a gui, pretty much.
[09:12] <jacked> AWOSDev: I'm trying to send you that file...
[09:12] <BHSPitLappy> and vlc does a lot with streaming
[09:12] <goofy> thanks everyone
[09:12] <BHSPitLappy> you can stream just about anything, any way you want
[09:13] <BHSPitLappy> did what
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> mplayer is the McGuyver of media players. You can take it and do things never possible with the command line.
[09:13] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, yes DVD with Mplayer, I use it exclusively.
[09:14] <hastesaver> AWOSDev, I use mplayer exclusively, but I must say mplayer doesn't support dvd menus. Use xine
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> atrophic: is dbdesigner what you were after? :)
[09:14] <AWOSDev> hastesaver, really?  didn't know that, okay thanks :)
[09:15] <BHSPitLappy> I use vlc for DVDs
[09:15] <atrophic> fyrestrtr, I'm still distracted, but the page is up and I'm about to read into it
[09:15] <AWOSDev> VLC for DVD?
[09:15] <AWOSDev> Neat!!!!!!!
[09:15] <BHSPitLappy> gmplayer for casual double-click video files
[09:15] <BHSPitLappy> yeah... with menus
[09:15] <AWOSDev> Coolness!
[09:15] <hastesaver> Double click? I haven't started nautilus in months! :)
[09:16] <AWOSDev> I told ya VLC FTW!
[09:16] <BHSPitLappy> although vlc doesn't understand looping and stuff
[09:16] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[09:16] <jacked> virtual-stargaze: what have you tried?
[09:16] <BHSPitLappy> it will play the Menu's animation once, then it will start with the movie
[09:16] <BHSPitLappy> it thinks it's just a playlist :P
[09:16] <BHSPitLappy> but you can click on buttons
[09:16] <BHSPitLappy> workingly
[09:16] <jacked> virtual-stargaze: there are config settings that you may have to look at... let me refresh my memory and I'll get back to you...
[09:17] <virtual-stargaze> jacked: Screensaver/system idle settings, power settings, and googling ineffectually...
[09:17] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy hehe :)
[09:17] <virtual-stargaze> And cursing at Microsoft, Intel, and ACPI from time to time...
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> why curse Intel?
[09:18] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, what's REALLY cool is that you can go to Open File in VLC, click on a .ISO, and it will play it.
[09:18] <BHSPitLappy> no mounting or anything.
[09:18] <BHSPitLappy> backed up dvd's ftw
[09:18] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, really?  Dang......
[09:18] <AWOSDev> Backed up Music CD FTW
[09:18] <AWOSDev> finally a use for my 100GB HD :P
[09:18] <BHSPitLappy> hmm never tried that with music cd's
[09:18] <BHSPitLappy> I meant dvd
[09:19] <Geoffrey2> how can I force apt to esentially reinstall an application without removing it, just overwriting the existing files?
[09:19] <BHSPitLappy> why the hell wouldn't you just rip the cds, AWOSDev
[09:19] <BHSPitLappy> you monkey
[09:19] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[09:19] <BHSPitLappy> Geoffrey2, it's easily doable in synapcit
[09:19] <BHSPitLappy> synaptic...
[09:19] <sc0tty> hello
[09:19] <BHSPitLappy> I don't know about apt commands
[09:19] <AWOSDev> !language
[09:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:19] <AWOSDev> Geoffrey2 good question.
[09:19] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, stick a sock in it :P
[09:19] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[09:20] <BHSPitLappy> sc0tty, hello
[09:20] <AWOSDev> Hello sc0tty.
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: sudo aptitude install --reinstall somepackagename
[09:20] <BHSPitLappy> man
[09:20] <Geoffrey2> BHSPitLappy, ok, thanks...if I reinstalled Firefox, would I likely lose my bookmarks, or would they still be there?
[09:20] <BHSPitLappy> I smell like Wendy's
[09:20] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[09:20] <sc0tty> I am having a strange problem with my multimedia keys (the sound control ones)
[09:20] <AWOSDev> work there?
[09:20] <jacked> virtual-stargaze: you there?
[09:20] <BHSPitLappy> Geoffrey2, they should all stay in a hidden folder in your home folder
[09:20] <BHSPitLappy> Geoffrey2, if you wanted to be extra safe, you could back up that folder
[09:20] <sc0tty> I happen to have 2 sound cards, a builtin one I don't use and a PCI one
[09:20] <foureight84> is anyone here using wicrawl on ubuntu?
[09:20] <AWOSDev> Geoffrey2 they would be in your home folder so they should be fine.
[09:21] <jacked> virtual-stargaze: have you looked at your laptop-mode.conf file?
[09:21] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: Wendy's *what*? >:)
[09:21] <foureight84> i can't get it to compile for some reason
[09:21] <BHSPitLappy> I personally use Google Browser Sync, so it keeps my bookmarks etc
[09:21] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, saw that one coming ;)
[09:21] <AWOSDev> Wicrawl?
[09:21] <sc0tty> and I don't why, but one time, the sound keys control the volume on the builtin card (so having no effect on my sound )
[09:21] <AWOSDev> whats a Wicrawl?
[09:21] <BHSPitLappy> Wendy's Old Fashioned Hamburgers!
[09:21] <sc0tty> and sometimes they control the PCI card, which is what I want
[09:21] <AWOSDev> Wendy's French Fries FTW!
[09:21] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: is that what she's calling it now?
[09:22] <Geoffrey2> for some reason, the web page I design looks just fine under IE, Firefox, or Opera for Windows, but looks like total garbage in Firefox for Linux....
[09:22] <sc0tty> is there a way to set which audio resource should receive these controls ?
[09:22] <jacked> virtual-stargaze: ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_WHEN_LID_CLOSED=1     --> there are more settings to check... let me know if you're getting this...
[09:22] <mnepton> Geoffrey2: URL?
[09:22] <avagant_the_awak> Well look at that.
[09:22] <AWOSDev> Please nobody flame me
[09:22] <Geoffrey2> www.reformpa.net
[09:22] <AWOSDev> Firefox sucks use Konqueror
[09:22] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, you, sir, are an excellent supplier of predictably obnoxious replies.
[09:22] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[09:22] <Zaire> konq sux
[09:22] <foureight84> i'm trying to compile wicrawl and i keep getting this error anyone know what's going on with it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26975/
[09:22] <mnepton> Geoffrey2: it's fairly certain that if Opera renders it correctly then your code is standardfs-compliant. Opera is *realy* standards-conforming.
[09:23] <Lam_> Geoffrey2: font's offset slightly.  hit ctrl+- (minus sign) and you'll see
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> Geoffrey2, it's the same renderer, on any platfoem.
[09:23] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: it's my super-power :/
[09:23] <Lam_> Geoffrey2: no idea why firefox does that sometimes
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> platform, even
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, super?
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> ...
[09:24] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: the lies i tell myself to avoid "down, not across"
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> I'm so confused
[09:25] <mnepton> think "slitting your wrists"
[09:25] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, find a way to keep busy... read every page of xkcd.com
[09:25] <atrophic> fyrestrtr, it looks better than I was even hoping for, thanks a million
[09:25] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[09:25] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, it's not across the river, it's not down the highway, it's through the jugular!
[09:25] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, heck just tell him to read every page on http://en.wikipedia.org/
[09:26] <AWOSDev> :)
[09:26] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, I recommend doing the xkcd thing
[09:26] <BHSPitLappy> it was the best time I've ever spent
[09:26] <AWOSDev> What is xkcd?
[09:27] <hid3> Hello everyone. I need some advice. Which filesystem would give the best performance for ide disk based ftp server, crowded with ~600 mB .iso files? I'm thinking about ext2 or ext3... Any ideas? Thanks.
[09:27] <mnepton> "Non ex transverso sed deorsum." ;)
[09:27] <Daemonik> hid3, If it's over FTP it doesn't matter. The files are large so it doesn't matter.
[09:27] <mnepton> hid3: ext3 is your best bet
[09:27] <jacked> hid3: I would say ext2
[09:27] <Daemonik> hid3, Use ext3 because it's journaled.
[09:27] <Healot> hid3 NTFS
[09:28] <AWOSDev> NTFS?
[09:28] <Daemonik> hid3, If you use ext2 and the system goes down for whatever reason, it'll take a while to bring it back up.
[09:28] <jacked> hid3: as long as it is JUST ISO files
[09:28] <AWOSDev> huh?
[09:28] <mnepton> hid3: the primary benefit of ext3 is that is has journalling and a failry feature-complete set of tools to
[09:28] <mnepton> -to
[09:28] <jacked> Healot: lol
[09:29] <foureight84> i'm trying to compile wicrawl and i keep getting this error anyone know what's going on with it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26975/
[09:29] <hid3> Thanks.
[09:29] <hid3> will choose ext3 :)
[09:29] <mnepton> foureight84: what is wicrawl? an app to find 802.11 networks?
[09:30] <foureight84> yea
[09:30] <mnepton> foureight84: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[09:30] <mnepton> done.
[09:30] <foureight84> this is like kismet
[09:30] <foureight84> it's a sniffer
[09:31] <mnepton> well, good luck then.
[09:31] <foureight84> haha thanks
[09:31] <AWOSDev> foureight84: I think you need the OpenSSL devel package
[09:31] <foureight84> how do i install that?
[09:31] <mnepton> but "how do i install this app that lets me attempt to compromise other people's security?" is not somehting high on my list of questions needing an answer ;)
[09:31] <AWOSDev> no clue :P
[09:31] <holycow> hid3, also if you use ext2, i guarantee that if you loose power your file system will become corrupted
[09:31] <AWOSDev> holycow not true!
[09:32] <jasper`> mnepton, that's rather contemptuous of you, to presume his intentions are unlawful or unjust.
[09:32] <holycow> absoeffinlutely true
[09:32] <holycow> you want to loose data .. .use ext2
[09:32] <hid3> ext2 is bad and evil as I see..
[09:32] <atrophic> loose != lose
[09:32] <holycow> guaranteed :)
[09:32] <AWOSDev> I lost power many times when I used ext2 and my data was fine!
[09:33] <mnepton> jasper`: i suspect that someone with a legitimate need to sniff wireless networks would also have some experience debugging make output.
[09:33] <foureight84> hmm openssl is already installed
[09:33] <foureight84> i just wanna see the program
[09:33] <holycow> ext3 doesn't guarantee prevention of data loss from fs corruption, however, simply don't use ext2 :) just some friendly advice from those of us that have had the experience
[09:33] <atrophic> foureight84, apt-cache search openssl, then look for one that ends with 'dev'.  There may be a readme or something with wicrawl that details prerequisites
[09:33] <richard__> You got lucky - robustness was the main reason ext2 was replaced
[09:33] <optimistic> i used to use cain and able to get into my parents wireless network
[09:34] <AWOSDev> foureight84: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[09:34] <AWOSDev> try that
[09:34] <atrophic> foureight84, openssl isn't necessarily what you need, you need the development package for openssl
[09:34] <jacked> holycow: interesting. didn't realize there was that much of a difference.
[09:34] <foureight84> hmm okay i'm gonna give it a try. thanks
[09:34] <AWOSDev> 4884: np
[09:35] <foureight84> well this program is pretty convenient because it can test wireless nodes for internet connectivity without me having to physically connect to it
[09:36] <foureight84> hmm well thanks for the help
[09:36] <AWOSDev> NP
[09:37] <jacked> holycow: can you explain the mechanics of the difference in data-loss between ext2/ext3 any further?
[09:37] <AWOSDev> Jacked you still there?
[09:37] <AWOSDev> Oops my question is now irrelevant.
[09:37] <jacked> AWOSDev: 1 second after?  yeah
[09:37] <jacked> hehe
[09:38] <snoop> anyone know which program I can use in ubuntu to install torrent files?
[09:38] <jacked> as is my answer
[09:38] <mnepton> snoop: install, or download?
[09:38] <jacked> v-stargazer: did you get my answers to your question?
[09:38] <AWOSDev> snoop, Ktorrent to download.
[09:38] <AWOSDev> jacked, that ALSA howto didn't help.
[09:38] <v-stargazer> Jacked, nope.
[09:38] <jacked> AWOSDev: sorry to hear that.  :(
[09:38] <mnepton> AWOSDev: he said Ubuntu. i doubt he wants all the KDE libs just for a torrent solution.
[09:38] <holycow> jacked, ext2 the basic difference is ext3 has journalling ext2 doesn't.  on an unclean exit a journals fs can at least attempt to recover data and attaing fs integrity.  non journaled fs's cannot do anything beyond fsck types of tools
[09:39] <v-stargazer> My ghost oughta be pinged out soon...
[09:39] <holycow> my first experience with redhat was on ext2 ... i happened to hit the power button because as a windows user you know your tought not to think and bam, first experience with linux resulted in a totally hosed install
[09:39] <snoop> to download mnepton
[09:39] <holycow> of course coupled with not having a clue at that time  ... didn't leave hell of an impression :)
[09:40] <snoop> awodkev: I'm using gnome, ktorrent is for kde
[09:40] <kupesoft> should i put the 32bit version of linux on my athlon 64-chip computer.  I hate not having flash, etc
[09:40] <jacked> holycow: i understand that, but, generally speaking, it shouldn't be an issue if you're using it as a storage device for large files, right?  (that's what I had been talking about)
[09:40] <snoop> awosdev
[09:40] <mnepton> snoop: BitTorrent is pre-installed and can be added to the exisitng menus with A La Carte. i prefer BitTornado as it has nicer options. "sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui"
[09:40] <kupesoft> will it be that much slower?
[09:40] <Zaire> where are the ssh logs in kubuntu I kinda forgot lol
[09:40] <AWOSDev> snoop, it will work but alright.
[09:40] <holycow> *cough* which part of non journaled fs systems shouldn't be used?
[09:40] <jacked> virtual-stargaze: have you looked at your laptop-mode.conf file?
[09:40] <AWOSDev> Zaire, /var/log?
[09:40] <holycow> is not clear i mean
[09:41] <Zaire> thx
[09:41] <v-stargazer> I've managed to find it, but cannot save changes
[09:41] <snoop> mnepton: hmm how about Utorrent?
[09:41] <kupesoft> will me install the 32bit version of ubuntu on my 64bit computer be that bad?  I want to have flash, java applets, w32codec support, etc
[09:41] <kupesoft> *installing
[09:41] <mnepton> snoop: Windows-only
[09:41] <holycow> all devices run the risk of power failure, if the fsystem doesn't provide mechanics to minimize the impact of that ... how can it not be an issue regardless of use?
[09:41] <snoop> mnepton: maybe I can install it with wine
[09:41] <mnepton> kupesoft: i do that all the time. just be sure to get the k7 kernel and the k7 restricted modules.
[09:42] <mnepton> snoop: why would you install an entire API emulator just for an app that has equally decent counterparts in Linux?
[09:42] <kupesoft> mnepton: How do I make sure of that?
[09:42] <mnepton> kupesoft: you can get them via Synaptic
[09:42] <snoop> cause uttorrent works best?
[09:43] <mnepton> snoop: "best" is relative. and you're in no position to judge that, as you haven't even *tried* Linux clients.
[09:44] <Healot> position: absolute
[09:44] <mnepton> v-stargazer: sudo gedit /path/to/file.name
[09:44] <timhaughton> Anyone know how to set the auto nick-complete character in XChat-Gnome?
[09:44] <AWOSDev> v-stargazer, gsudo gedit /etc/wherever
[09:45] <v-stargazer> Ah, finally my ghost pings out...
[09:46] <julian> what are some must have apps?
[09:46] <Healot> Tab
[09:46] <jacked> holycow: um, okay. i think we're on the same wavelength here, except -- as far as I understand it -- storage partitions/drives with large files run much lower risks of corruption during power loss than partitions/drives being constantly modified (like root, etc)
[09:46] <holycow> v-stargazer, if you are registered on freenode you can kline your nick of course
[09:46] <AWOSDev> julian, my list includes: Kdevelop, Klickety, Konversation, Konqueror, and most of all, KATE!
[09:46] <timhaughton> Healot: Cheers :)
[09:46] <holycow> jacked, the issue is, is there a difference between one write and a nother?
[09:46] <holycow> technically no
[09:47] <julian> wats klickety
[09:47] <holycow> if your hd goes down during a write ... expect problems
[09:47] <AWOSDev> julian: Strategy Game.
[09:47] <holycow> trust me on this, if anything can go wrong, it will go wrong especially on drives you 'expect' nothing to go wrong on
[09:47] <holycow> :)
[09:47] <mnepton> AWOSDev: please stop recommending KDE solutions as a first solution on #ubuntu. most users here are GNOME users, and have no need for all the KDE libs just to run an app that probably has a GNOME counterpart.
[09:47] <AWOSDev> holycow: 100% Correct!
[09:47] <Healot> holy cow!
[09:48] <julian> cool
[09:48] <RichardCranium> how can I tell if my disk is a 62 bit or 32 bit ubuntu cd?
[09:48] <AWOSDev> RichardCranium on the back of the CD case it says
[09:48] <mnepton> heh, funny nick :)
[09:48] <AWOSDev> at the bottom
[09:48] <AWOSDev> e.g.:
[09:49] <RichardCranium> what a funny guy
[09:49] <richard__> Rich: see if it works on a 32 bit computer?
[09:49] <RichardCranium> im talking about a downloaded and burned iso
[09:49] <jacked> holycow: understood. we are on the same wavelength... I'm playing the statical game a little more recklessly though.  :P
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> RichardCranium: depends what iso you downloaded.
[09:49] <mnepton> RichardCranium: what version did you download?
[09:49] <Uberpussy> Cool 62bit linux....... ;)
[09:49] <holycow> jacked, why tho? ext3 is free, better tasting, more filling
[09:49] <holycow> also
[09:49] <AWOSDev> This Mac Edition will run on modern G3, G4 and G5 computers, including iBooks and Powerbooks.           This 64-bit PC edition will run on AMD64 or EM64T based computers (e.g. Athlon 64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon).
[09:49] <Healot> RichardCranium:you cant; coz there isnt any 62-bit releases :(
[09:49] <holycow> you can upgrade to ext3 from ext2 without reformatting
[09:49] <holycow> however
[09:49] <jacked> holycow: slower
[09:50] <holycow> one always recommends backing up
[09:50] <holycow> jacked, lol whatever
[09:50] <AWOSDev> mnepton, me = funny nick?
[09:50] <RichardCranium> cmon now be a bit more typo friendly
[09:50] <mnepton> AWOSDev: no, RichardCranium
[09:50] <holycow> your NEVER used hd being SLOWER are mutually exclusive properties
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> please take hdd and filesystem discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:50] <holycow> regular users always tell me a bout how jfs is slower than xfs which is slower than reiser
[09:50] <holycow> but you know what?
[09:50] <AWOSDev> I want a 62-bit Linux!!!  :)
[09:50] <holycow> there isn't a single user in this room that will ever notice the dif
[09:51] <defrysk> works fine
[09:51] <RichardCranium> anyhow - i got it i had to check /dists/dapper/main on the cd
[09:51] <mnepton> holycow: don;t be so hasty to say such things. :)
[09:51] <defrysk> and very reliable
[09:51] <jacked> holycow: we were talking about an FTP server full of ISO's... that suggests to me a drive that is being accessed constantly, but written to rarely
[09:51] <holycow> mnepton, i'd be willing to put money on it but ya never know :)
[09:52] <holycow> jacked, giving ya a bit of a hard time :) all good
[09:52] <jacked> holycow: no worries.  hehe
[09:52] <mnepton> holycow: one of the installations we support is a 250 node HPC cluster doing cancer research. the FS performance on that will be noticeable. ;)
[09:52] <holycow> mnepton, well perhaps i was hasty
[09:52] <holycow> :)
[09:52] <mnepton> :)
[09:53] <AWOSDev> mnepton, really?  I saw that on NBC.
[09:53] <jasper`> Cancer research is one beautiful scam.
[09:53] <holycow> mnepton, what do you guys use ... xfs/jfs/other?
[09:53] <AWOSDev> the NBC Nightly News, they had a story about that, this guy had prostate cancer and their using supercomputers to decode his blood.
[09:53] <RichardCranium> jasper`, stfu
[09:53] <AWOSDev> Now now, we're all entitled to our opinion.
[09:54] <AWOSDev> hmm
[09:54] <armstrong81> Ive installed ubuntu twice now, due to a graphics card switch, the first install my ipod would be mounted when plugged in. Now with the second install I plug it in and it says do not disconnect, but no mount in ubuntu. Any ideas?
[09:54] <mnepton> holycow: it's not our installation, but a customer's
[09:54] <mnepton> holycow: and they use ext3, iirc. simply because the toolset for ext3 is so much better than for anything else.
[09:55] <holycow> mnepton, *nod*
[09:55] <holycow> hard to backup a 250 node cluster
[09:55] <holycow> >_>
[09:55] <mnepton> fsck + Reiser = weekend at the office after which sysadmins switch back to ext3
[09:56] <mikedep333> hey, I just upgraded from dapper to edgy and now I just see a blank screen during startup
[09:56] <jacked> mnepton: very interesting.
[09:56] <mikedep333> is there a way to restore either the boot messages or the graphic?
[09:56] <mikedep333> I'm guessing I would dpkg-reconfigure something
[09:56] <holycow> mnepton, i've been happy with reiser but yes ext3 tools are better
[09:56] <jacked> mikedep333: problem with xorg.conf is my guess
[09:57] <holycow> of course, hans being accused of some very naughty things don't bode well for the future of the fs
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> mikedep333: edgy support is next door at #ubuntu+1
[09:57] <mnepton> mikedep333: afaik there are no boot messages displayed in the GUI loader in Upstart
[09:57] <mikedep333> jacked: this is before x.org loads
[09:57] <mikedep333> oh
[09:57] <mnepton> holycow: careful about swityching away from Reiser, though. if Hans gets mad at you .... ;)
[09:57] <armstrong81> Has anyone had any problems with Dapper not auto mounting an iPod?
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> armstrong81: buy me an ipod and I'll figure it out for you.
[09:58] <holycow> mnepton, that mean
[09:58] <holycow> >_<
[09:58] <armstrong81> ;)
[09:58] <BHSPitLappy> hha
[09:58] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, ...
[09:58] <v-stargazer> jacked: Anything else I need to do besides modifying the laptop-mode.conf?
[09:58] <BHSPitLappy> armstrong81, yes, me. any removable media, to be exact.
[09:59] <jacked> mikedep333: um... can you access the logs from another install?  (is it a dual boot machine, if not, you may want to boot up the live CD and take a look at your logs to see what the problem is)
[09:59] <armstrong81> any tips? Ive had a previous install of dapper and everything worked great, now not so much. Also on the first install all my drives would appear on my desktop, not this install, I didnt change any options so im pretty confused by it
[09:59] <jacked> jacked: make sure sleep is enabled, of course... (either in that file or in acpi-support
[09:59] <jacked> )
[09:59] <jacked> errr...
[10:00] <jacked> v-stargazer: make sure sleep is enabled.... blah blah
[10:00] <v-stargazer> Talking to yourself again, jacked?
[10:00] <jacked> yup, mad as a hatter
[10:00] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[10:00] <jacked> I'm up WAY to early... you have to realize it's 5am here
[10:00] <jacked> lol
[10:01] <jacked> to=too
[10:01] <AWOSDev> 4am here :)
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> armstrong81: have you upgraded it yet?
[10:01] <mnepton> talking to yourself is fine. it's when arguments start between your various personalities that you may have problems.
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> 11 AM here
[10:01] <v-stargazer> jacked, I would assume that a restart is needed...and it's only 1 am here...
[10:01] <armstrong81> yea all auto upgrades as well ive enabled all repositories
[10:01] <AWOSDev> jacked, wouldn't that be up to late?
[10:01] <AWOSDev> *too
[10:01] <mnepton> jacked: you in the maritimes?
[10:01] <jacked> v-stargazer: that's the easiest way, yeah
[10:02] <jacked> AWOSDev: no, up early, believe it or not
[10:02] <v-stargazer> brb
[10:02] <jacked> mnepton: yes
[10:02] <AWOSDev> jacked: nope.  For me, too late :)
[10:02] <jacked> mnepton: NB at the moment... but changes by the week
[10:02] <holycow> thats one hell of a wave
[10:02] <AWOSDev> s/Florida/Flori-duhhhhhhhh
[10:02] <mnepton> it's just after lunch on my schedule :/
[10:03] <holycow> wow, canuckians :)
[10:03] <AWOSDev> Yeah that's what I was thinking.
[10:03] <mnepton> holycow: i'm not Canadian, i'm Quebecois. ;)
[10:03] <mnepton> *sigh*
[10:03] <armstrong81> haha
[10:03] <holycow> mnepton, i beg to differ mon ami :)
[10:04] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[10:04] <Zaire> got a guy on the line in mysql help but need to know version of mysql-server
[10:04] <jacked> now if only the world was flat and I had better eyes...
[10:04] <Zaire> how do I get the version in cli?
[10:04] <AWOSDev> apt-cache info mysql-server?
[10:04] <RichardCranium> which would give me better performance/stability 64 bit ubuntu or 32 bit gentoo
[10:04] <Zaire> thx
[10:04] <AWOSDev> no not info
[10:04] <AWOSDev> apt-cache show mysql-server
[10:04] <AWOSDev> sorry
[10:05] <Ademan> !vga
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <AWOSDev> 5.0.21-3ubuntu1 on my server FYI.
[10:05] <mnepton> Zaire: there are various versions available. you need to specify MySQL4 or MySQL5 or whetever. apt-cache search mysql
[10:05] <jacked> mnepton: I think you read the article wrong.  the money is where you CAME from
[10:05] <Ademan> !lcd
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <Ademan> !anything
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <Ademan> :-)
[10:05] <holycow> mnepton, cool beans
[10:05] <mnepton> !ademan_being_actually_funny
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ademan_being_actually_funny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <mnepton> me neither, ubotu
[10:06] <mnepton> >;)
[10:06] <JDStone> how do I change my FQDN in Ubuntu server?
[10:06] <Zaire> thx got it lol
[10:06] <defrysk> !xorg
[10:06] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:06] <armstrong81> This ipod thing is driving me nuts, the ipod recognizes thats its plugged in, but ubuntu doesnt see it, could it possibly be a permission thing? There is no folder in /media is that auto created?
[10:07] <jasper`> JDStone, edit /etc/hosts
[10:07] <JDStone> !dnshostname
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dnshostname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <JDStone> thanks jasper`
[10:07] <AWOSDev> !dns
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <mnepton> armstrong81: is this iPod formatted FAT32 or HFS+?
[10:07] <jacked> armstrong81: format for windows
[10:07] <jasper`> JDStone, format is: IP   FQDN  ALIASES
[10:07] <armstrong81> it is
[10:07] <JDStone> thanks :)
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> JDStone: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[10:08] <bestadvocate> hey
[10:08] <jacked> armstrong81: format... are you sure?  (parted will tell you)
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> armstrong81: type 'mount'
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> armstrong81: see if its mounted.
[10:08] <armstrong81> this same ipod has been used on this same computer with the same version of ubuntu, the first time worked perfect, the second time not only does the ipod not mount but also my drives arnt on my desktop. what causes the drives to appear on the desktop
[10:08] <jacked> um... that too
[10:08] <JDStone> fyrestrtr: /etc/hostname just contains my hostname 'server'
[10:08] <jacked> :P
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> JDStone: yes, so change it if you need to change it. FQDN includes hostname :)
[10:09] <JDStone> I just need to change the FQDN
[10:09] <JDStone> or the domain, rather
[10:09] <JDStone> not the hostname
[10:09] <bestadvocate> I'm trying to backup a couple hundred gigabites of files to an external harddrive.  but the when I just transfer files normally Nautilus seems to corrupt a lot of files.  Is there a safe way to copy files to my external HD?
[10:10] <JDStone> jasper`: sweet, that worked, thanks
[10:10] <mnepton> bestadvocate: rsync
[10:10] <jasper`> JDStone, now, ready for your next lesson?
[10:10] <armstrong81> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26978/
[10:11] <jacked> armstrong81: sudo mkdir /media/ipod-manual; mount -t vfat /dev/sda (or whatever) /media/ipod-manual
[10:11] <JDStone> jasper`: shoot!
[10:11] <bestadvocate> mnepton, thanks I'm going to go rtm
[10:11] <armstrong81> jacked, what would the usb be? is that sda?
[10:11] <jacked> armstrong81: yeah, it's not mounted.  try what I said
[10:11] <mnepton> bestadvocate: i can give you the command you want to save time, and you can read while the backup occurs ...
[10:12] <jasper`> JDStone, you asked "how do I change my FQDN in Ubuntu server?" At www.google.com I entered, "FQDN ubuntu server" and the 2nd webpage was: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271658
[10:12] <bestadvocate> mnepton that would be awesome
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> bestadvocate: what filesystem is on the external drive?
[10:12] <jacked> armstrong81: um... hit tab a couple of times after getting as far as /dev/sd   and see what comes up
[10:12] <bestadvocate> fat32, it needs to work on windows
[10:12] <mnepton> bestadvocate: mount points/dir names of the origin and destination?
[10:13] <jacked> armstrong81: if just sda, then that's your ipod (most likely)
[10:13] <bestadvocate> mnepton, one sec, plugging it in and looking up
[10:13] <AWOSDev> MIDI?!?!?!
[10:14] <AWOSDev> Here's what I know:
[10:14] <armstrong81> jaked: sda is not a valid block device
[10:14] <jacked> armstrong81: let me know what devices come up
[10:14] <jasper`> sda1
[10:14] <jasper`> ?
[10:14] <AWOSDev> I tried the ALSA howto to no avail.  I have a hardware synth that works in Windows 95 and Red Hat Linux 9 (kernel 2.2).  It does not play with /dev/sequencer or /dev/snd/seq.
[10:14] <agutierm> Hello all: the ntpdate give me the time on EDT, how I can obtain the hour in CEST format ?
[10:15] <mnepton> agutierm: Central European?
[10:15] <agutierm> yes
[10:15] <bestadvocate> mnepton I forget exactly how to look up device name but it mounts at /media/SEA_DISK
[10:15] <jacked> armstrong81: yes, it would have to be sda1, if it is indeed sda (may be sdb or sdc)
[10:15] <AWOSDev> @time europe/central
[10:15] <agutierm> I have the timezone file with Europe/Madrid
[10:15] <ice63> can get Blackbox from ubuntu sources to install it ?
[10:15] <AWOSDev> @time Europe/Madrid
[10:15] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Madrid: October 16 2006, 10:15:42
[10:15] <mnepton> agutierm: what city are you in?
[10:15] <agutierm> AWOSDev, on wich file ?
[10:15] <agutierm> Madrid
[10:16] <AWOSDev> I don't know, I used the bugbot.
[10:16] <AWOSDev> mnepton may be able to help you more, agutierm.
[10:16] <mnepton> agutierm: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid /etc/timezone
[10:17] <mnepton> bestadvocate: what about the source of the backup?
[10:17] <agutierm> ntpdate hora.rediris.es
[10:17] <agutierm> 16 Oct 04:16:54 ntpdate[7138] : adjust time server 130.206.3.166 offset 0.011380 sec
[10:17] <jacked> AWOSDev: have you checked the links at the bottom of that page I sent you?
[10:17] <agutierm> :?
[10:17] <thoreauputic> zePlaza: spamming in /msg is not nice
[10:17] <mnepton> agutierm: after copying that file you may need to reboot.
[10:17] <agutierm> ok
[10:17] <v-stargazer> jacked, no effect. backlight remains lit, though screen is otherwise blank. I need it to turn the backlight off.
[10:17] <AWOSDev> jacked, no none of them looked helpful.
[10:18] <bestadvocate> its /media/hdb1/home/bestadvocate/(folder 1 and folder 2)
[10:18] <JDStone> jasper`: isn't a DHCP client supposed to get it's dns domain name from the DHCP server?
[10:18] <jacked> v-stargazer: put the contents of the two files I suggested that you modify into pastebin.ca
[10:18] <bestadvocate> i renamed the folders 1 and 2
[10:19] <armstrong81> there is only one sda, and it doesnt work, where would I see the other devices?
[10:19] <armstrong81> ok this is weird, I went to dev/disk/by-id and there is a usb-Apple_iPod_..... there
[10:19] <armstrong81> and its a link, with the target /dev/sda
[10:19] <v-stargazer> TWO files?
[10:19] <armstrong81> weird
[10:19] <jasper`> JDStone, /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf should have something like `option domain-name "internal.example.org";`
[10:19] <bestadvocate> whoops I forgot to throw in your name in the last 2 comments mnepton
[10:20] <mnepton> bestadvocate: so, you want to backup those 2 folders onto the external drive, yes?
[10:20] <jacked> armstrong81: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/ipod-manual
[10:20] <JDStone> jasper`: it does
[10:20] <bestadvocate> mnepton, yes recursively
[10:20] <s4lvuzzo> hi all
[10:20] <jacked> armstrong81: that doesn't work?
[10:20] <JDStone> jasper`: but what about my clients
[10:20] <armstrong81> doesnt exist
[10:20] <Gevaudan82> Weird question...but does anyone know the word which means an unexpected problem resulting from the combination of two situations? it's not transitive,  but i can't seem to lay my finger on it!
[10:20] <mnepton> bestadvocate: you'll either have to use 2 rsync commands, put those two folders in a single folder by themselves, or back up your einter home dir.
[10:20] <JDStone> hmm, dhclient.conf says it's requesting the domain-name
[10:20] <mnepton> bestadvocate: which makes the most sense to you?
[10:21] <bestadvocate> mnepton, two commands would be better, thanks
[10:21] <AWOSDev> FIRE?
[10:21] <jacked> armstrong81: sudo parted /dev/sda
[10:21] <jacked> let me know the output
[10:21] <jacked> errr...
[10:21] <jasper`> JDStone, try mnepton (sorry mnepton).
[10:21] <jacked> after typing 'p'
[10:21] <armstrong81> No such device or address
[10:21] <JDStone> it's ok.  thanks again jasper`
[10:22] <jacked> armstrong81: sudo parted /dev/sdb
[10:22] <jacked> armstrong81: sudo parted /dev/sdc
[10:22] <agutierm> I have the same time
[10:22] <agutierm> agutierm@zeta41:~$ date
[10:22] <agutierm> lun oct 16 04:22:28 EDT 2006
[10:22] <agutierm> :-(
[10:22] <armstrong81> no such file or directory
[10:22] <mnepton> bestadvocate: rsync -a -v /media/hdb1/home/bestadvocate/folder1/ /media/SEA_DISK/
[10:22] <mnepton> bestadvocate: repeat that, substituting the second folder name
[10:23] <jacked> v-stargazer: I mentioned /etc/default/acpi-support
[10:23] <bestadvocate> thanks mnepton, your a lifesaver
[10:23] <AWOSDev> v-stargazer?  uh, fire?
[10:23] <jasper`> JDStone, `option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;` isn't something you want is it?
[10:23] <mnepton> bestadvocate: my PayPal address is ... ;)
[10:23] <bestadvocate> :)
[10:23] <JDStone> no
[10:23] <JDStone> jasper`: no
[10:24] <jacked> mnepton: what a fine idea...
[10:24] <AWOSDev> ahh okay, v-stargazer, thought your PSU sparked or something :P
[10:24] <armstrong81> do you know what program or setting put the drives on the desktop, cause thats the other symptom
[10:24] <jacked> lol
[10:24] <JDStone> jasper`: it's ok, I think I figured it out
[10:24] <v-stargazer> AWOSDev, not yet and hopefully never...
[10:24] <jasper`> JDStone, ?
[10:24] <AWOSDev> You know, TBH, I'm here to learn how to help people so I can do Tehc Support for a living.
[10:24] <mnepton> jacked: yeah, except i already get paid for suypporting Ubuntu, and i don't think my boss would be happy with me asking users for money ;)
[10:24] <AWOSDev> s/Tehc/Tech
[10:25] <RichardCranium> which kernel should I be using on a core 2 duo?
[10:25] <jacked> mnepton: understood.
[10:25] <JDStone> jasper`: request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
[10:25] <JDStone>         domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
[10:25] <JDStone>         netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;
[10:25] <jasper`> AWOSDev, Ruskin: Crown of Wild Olive, "No one ever teaches well who wants to teach or governs well who wants to govern..."
[10:25] <JDStone> jasper`: notice domain-name
[10:25] <jacked> mnepton: so what you're saying is... there's nothing stopping me!
[10:25] <AWOSDev> jasper`, huh?
[10:25] <jacked> mnepton: perhaps not.
[10:25] <JDStone> jasper`: so it must be getting the domain name from the dhcp server
[10:25] <jacked> lol
[10:25] <JDStone> i'm going to bed
[10:25] <AWOSDev> JDStone G'night!
[10:26] <Willster> jasper: tis true, tis true
[10:26] <mnepton> jacked: you seem, at least if ignorant of Linux, very adept at reading between lines ;)
[10:26] <JDStone> night AWOSDev
[10:26] <mnepton> jacked: and who knows, maybe you're a Linux guru, too. double threat. :)
[10:26] <jacked> mnepton: that's why I'm a law school student
[10:26] <holycow> nautilus has to die
[10:27] <mnepton> holycow: give it a directory with 14K images to thumbnail. it'll die.
[10:27] <mnepton> (actually, it won't. which is more annoying than if it did.)
[10:27] <kihai> Hi! I'm looking for documentation about ltsp 5.0 (the version that's included in Edubuntu 6.10). Can anyone give me any hints on where to look?
[10:28] <jasper`> Maybe there's an ltspbuntu?
[10:28] <holycow> mnepton, the thing about gnome and kde is: gnome dudes know interface but write terrible code ... kde dudes spit out code like theres no tommorrow but cannot design a ui if their life depended on it
[10:28] <mnepton> kihai: try #edubuntu
[10:28] <holycow> if there were only some way to squish those two groups together ...
[10:29] <mnepton> holycow: not really something you want to say to a member of the GNOME Foundation ;)
[10:29] <kaflfl> hmm
[10:29] <holycow> mnepton, ha!
[10:29] <mnepton> :)
[10:29] <kihai> mnepton: Been there, done it. No one knew where to find manuals... :)
[10:29] <holycow> is this where i backpedal on my comments?
[10:29] <holycow> :)
[10:29] <mnepton> kihai: what is the specific question?
[10:30] <mnepton> holycow: first you need a flux capacitor
[10:30] <mnepton> then a DeLorean. then you're set.
[10:30] <jacked> armstrong81: did you figure it out yet?  what do you get from ls /dev/sd*  ?
[10:30] <Infineon> HOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!
[10:30] <holycow> heh
[10:30] <Infineon> HOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!
[10:30] <kihai> mnepton: How do I setup ltsp 5.0 including local device support on a freshly installed Edubuntu 6.10 Beta?
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[10:30] <Infineon> HOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!
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[10:30] <Infineon> HOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!
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[10:30] <RoboNuggie> Oh dear
[10:30] <jamx> ...
[10:30] <Infineon> HOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!
[10:30] <LoRez> Warning: `Infineon' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
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[10:30] <mnepton> !ops
[10:30] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
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[10:30] <Infineon> HOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!
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[10:30] <raphink> someone is gong to get kicked
[10:30] <raphink> hehe
[10:30] <Infineon> HOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!
[10:30] <raphink> well done Seveas :)
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[10:30] <AWOSDev> !ops
[10:30] <AWOSDev> !ops
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[10:30] <cyphase> *sigh*
[10:31] <Infineon> HOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS VISTA IS WAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT, GO WINDOWS!
[10:31] <poningru> wow
[10:31] <cyphase> go away
[10:31] <Shadowpillar> FAIL AT TROLLING GTFO.
[10:31] <Gevaudan82> get to the choppa!
[10:31] <RoboNuggie> Microdoft PR aren't what they used to be
[10:31] <holycow> heh
[10:31] <BHSPitLappy> :P
[10:32] <AWOSDev> Why was I kicked?
[10:32] <Zaire> I say get lost microshaft junky
[10:32] <AWOSDev> I didn't do anything :( :( :( :(
[10:32] <mnepton> someday, when that guy gets laid, he'll look back on nights like this and realize why he was a 25 year old virgin.
[10:32] <holycow> probably accident AWOSDev
[10:32] <jambalay> SURE ARE A LOT OF UBUNTU FAGGOTS IN HERE LIKE: kaflfl flopian ead normal sc0tty kihai LordSkylark jjlowing joachim-n Znarl agutierm phar0z BlueBoar Gevaudan82 s4lvuzzo thoreauputic braino wrabbit^ v-stargazer nrdb acidjames_ elias glatzor lostsync thefish rysiek|pl bestadvocate robby anoobis visik7 ice63 spacey blithe muffi__ yango skyweb C-O-L-T jolzee elate mikedep333 SubNet DrColossus po0f vegiVamp timhaughton armstrong81 noneee jbirdma
[10:32] <RoboNuggie> lol
[10:32] <jambalay> croppa desti shorter human_blip besonen2____ guibis zaatar_ snoop dartmolx Lorvij Cosmosan yeager POVaddct xabbuh marsu_ Huey tanghus Mogz Geoffrey2 hpnadig Caplain phaero Fracture BoyBlunder _max_ render notbbt rpedro atrophic abhinay narg zorro AAAle jerb cyphase Carnage\ goofy jinnsyi Seveas Bitmaster jacked mikeymike-linux Zaire optimistic Android ChaKy reduz brosnan pitti fraco dr0ne johns^ kintaro0e lFke Luke pusakat raphink df Jonbo
[10:32] <AWOSDev> Ah!
[10:32] <raphink> raaaaaaaaaaaaah
[10:32] <dibblego> why can I mount a samba share with Places->Connect to Server, but I cannot do it at the command line? "5867: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)"
[10:32] <holycow> mnepton, you mean 45 year old virgin
[10:33] <abhinay> what is happening here ?
[10:33] <mnepton> holycow: you can't prove i am, so don't even try, mmkay?
[10:33] <cyphase> aah
[10:33] <holycow> rofl!
[10:33] <mnepton> oh ... wait. you meant .... never mind.
[10:33] <Seveas> abhinay, some people with a negative IQ think it's fun to spam
[10:33] <AAAle> i see there are a lot of guys hat have a lot of time to lose :P
[10:33] <holycow> we are geeks eh?
[10:33] <holycow> heh
[10:33] <kyja> good morning.
[10:33] <xabbuh> dibblego:  how did you try it on cmmand line?
[10:33] <AWOSDev> Dang they got ##linux too
[10:33] <rysiek|pl> AAAle: yeah, I've got a friend like this. he spent 4h installind (Hasta la) Vista
[10:33] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, the big channels get targeted
[10:33] <dibblego> xabbuh, mount -t smbfs //host/share -o username=u,password=p
[10:34] <AAAle> ryanakca, lol :D
[10:34] <BHSPitLappy> when are they releasing that patch for human stupidity?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> BHSPitLappy: marked "can't fix"
[10:34] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: North Korea just tested a beta, so they say.
[10:34] <Seveas> BHSPitLappy, Smith&Wesson did that a while ago, it's illegal to use though ;)
[10:34] <Seveas> mnepton, 
[10:34] <jacked> BHSPitLappy: they have, it's called "the gun"
[10:34] <BHSPitLappy> wow, three consecutive joke responses
[10:34] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy -- I've been waiting for that patch for yearssssss...still too many idiots driving on I-95 :)
[10:34] <xabbuh> dibblego:  did you specify the correct workgroup, username and password?
[10:35] <BHSPitLappy> and a fourth and fifth nonconsecutive
[10:35] <jacked> lol
[10:35] <BHSPitLappy> jacked's works, though
[10:35] <dibblego> xabbuh, no workgroup (the remote system is linux) and the correct username/password
[10:35] <atrophic> dibblego, have you done a 'sudo apt-get install smbfs' ?
[10:35] <dibblego> atrophic, yes
[10:35] <kyja> anybody tweak there x.org and ati drivers maybe even with the dual core cpu. SO it works well. I can open the screen saver app and select glmatrix and one of the cpu readings goes to 100% and starts to over heat my lappy.
[10:35] <cyphase> BHSPitLappy: i think God said that was going to be late
[10:35] <jacked> BHSPitLappy: that was a Leno-esque setup.  bravo
[10:35] <cyphase> :P
[10:36] <BHSPitLappy> cool
[10:36] <BHSPitLappy> night, folks\
[10:36] <xabbuh> dibblego:  username and password are known by smbpasswd on the remote host?
[10:36] <atrophic> dibblego, the command you posted doesn't specify a mount point
[10:36] <dibblego> xabbuh, yes
[10:36] <jacked> v-stargazer: which one
[10:36] <dibblego> atrophic, sorry, transcription error
[10:36] <Daniel0> how can i install grub again if it was replaced by something else? can i do it from the livecd?
[10:36] <atrophic> dibblego, figured so ;)
[10:36] <v-stargazer> jacked: Finally got the acpi-support file open (read only). What line should I be looking for? <--repeaded
[10:36] <dibblego> atrophic, sudo smbmount //gsxr/music t -o "username=tmorris,password=xxx"
[10:36] <mesha> !mbr
[10:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:37] <mesha> Daniel0: See those.
[10:37] <dibblego> atrophic, any ideas?
[10:37] <atrophic> dibblego, no need to quote the options, and there's still no mount point in there
[10:37] <mcmahons> hey is there any way i can d/l a package and its dependancies from a different pc. i'm at home on parens mac, need to d/l some packages to take to a place with dial up. what do i do?
[10:37] <jacked> v-stargazer: did you get my message to paste the contents of THAT file and laptop[...] .conf file into pastebin.ca?
[10:37] <dibblego> atrophic, there is if your password contains special characters :)
[10:37] <dibblego> atrophic, the mount point is there
[10:38] <dibblego> it is t
[10:38] <atrophic> dibblego, I swear I got that error just recently, I'm trying to recall everything I went through to fix it ;)
[10:38] <BHSPitLappy> is anyone familiar with this bug... I close my laptop lid, the screen turns off, then the screensaver kicks in, and it turns the screen back on (while closed), therefore wasting power and overheating the laptop overnight
[10:38] <goofy> anyone know where i can get the defalt synaptic source list.....i want to start over
[10:38] <v-stargazer> got it now
[10:38] <Lorvija> anyone? :/
[10:38] <dibblego> atrophic, I've had it as well and I can't remember either :)
[10:38] <BHSPitLappy> !sources
[10:38] <goofy> can you pm it to me
[10:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:38] <BHSPitLappy> !easysource
[10:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:38] <BHSPitLappy> goofy ^
[10:38] <AWOSDev> Is anybody here also in #freenode-social?  I need a voice.
[10:39] <goofy> ah thanks
[10:39] <jacked> v-stargazer: and why can you only get it to open read-only?  you'll need to do chmod o+w /etc/defaults/apci-support (or something like that)
[10:39] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, you can't get voice from peers...
[10:39] <BHSPitLappy> pm an op
[10:39] <BHSPitLappy> night
[10:39] <RichardCranium> should I be using linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-xeon or k8 on my core2duo?
[10:39] <jacked> RichardCranium: no
[10:40] <Sl4y3r> i have a question guys
[10:40] <Sl4y3r> can someone help me?
[10:40] <RichardCranium> jacked, which kernel is appropriate for a core2duo?
[10:40] <jacked> RichardCranium: linux-image-[...] -generic
[10:40] <mesha> Ask and you'll see.
[10:40] <|normal|> I hate my isp...Anyways(just in case someone answered and I wasn't around), can you use another distro's kernel with Ubuntu, or somehow compile the install cd with a kernel that don't freeze?
[10:40] <kihai>  How do I setup ltsp 5.0 including local device support on a freshly installed Edubuntu 6.10 Beta?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> RichardCranium: smp
[10:40] <RichardCranium> jacked, thats horrible!
[10:41] <gnomefreak> jacked: dapper doesnt use -generic
[10:41] <jacked> RichardCranium: linux-image-[...] -i686
[10:41] <atrophic> dibblego, try using a credentials file?
[10:41] <Seveas> kihai, #edubuntu can answer that
[10:41] <jacked> sorry, assumed 17-10
[10:41] <RichardCranium> jacked, that will not allow me to use 64 bit
[10:41] <dibblego> atrophic, I haven't, but I know I never have done that and I have definitely resolved this issue before
[10:41] <ice63> well i'm runing linux-image-2.6.17-2-k7 right now
[10:42] <jacked> RichardCranium: oh... core2duo 64bit???
[10:42] <Sl4y3r> jacked would you by chance know why i cant connect to the internet through ubuntu via modem
[10:42] <Sl4y3r> dial-up
[10:42] <RichardCranium> jacked, yes sir.
[10:42] <Seveas> ice63, that's very out of date...
[10:42] <kihai> Seveas: OK, I'll try it again there....
[10:42] <jacked> RichardCranium: nice!
[10:42] <RichardCranium> jacked, amd64-generic though? im so disappointed.
[10:42] <jacked> RichardCranium: that's the one
[10:43] <RichardCranium> jacked, what does the xeon have that the generic doesnt
[10:43] <ice63> Seveas, ok
[10:43] <NiteFears> has anyone seen the "green frame" console problem in the recent edgy builds?
[10:43] <jacked> RichardCranium: I'm out on that one... over my head
[10:44] <gnomefreak> NiteFears: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[10:44] <RichardCranium> I bet Seveas know
[10:44] <v-stargazer> jacked: http://pastebin.ca/204808 <--laptop-mode.conf | http://pastebin.ca/204810 <--acpi-support
[10:44] <NiteFears> gnomefreak: it's quiet there
[10:44] <glick> what the hell, how come with every release of ubuntu, they take away more and more of my configuration options?
[10:44] <glick> for example
[10:45] <adammk> !restricted
[10:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:45] <glick> in screensaver settings, how do i setup individual screen savers
[10:45] <glick> how can i test them
[10:45] <glick> like i used to be able to
[10:45] <Seveas> glick, don't use <enter> as punctuation please
[10:45] <RichardCranium> Seveas, where might i find some info on the differences between  linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-xeon and -generic?
[10:45] <atrophic> dibblego, What is the target's OS?
[10:45] <Seveas> glick, and that bug is very well known, you're only the 1000000th complainer
[10:45] <Madpilot> glick, the gnome-screensaver thing is a known bug
[10:46] <dibblego> atrophic, ubuntu-server-6.06
[10:46] <Seveas> RichardCranium, no idea, never looked at it
[10:46] <glick> its a bug?
[10:46] <RichardCranium> oh no!
[10:46] <Seveas> glick, it's a missing feature, upstream maintainer refuses to implement it
[10:46] <gnomefreak> glick: they mean its a known problem and no fix atm
[10:46] <glick> but the feature used to be there
[10:46] <glick> how did it disapear?
[10:46] <atrophic> dibblego, //gsxr is ubuntu as well as the client you're trying to connect to it with?
[10:47] <dibblego> atrophic, correct
[10:47] <jacked> v-stargazer: your acpi-support file isn't there
[10:47] <Seveas> it was there in xscreensaver, ubuntu uses gnome-screensaver now (for various reasons)
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Sl4y3r: keep your questions in channel please - so everyone can see them and you have a better chance at an naswer
[10:47] <jacked> oh... woops...
[10:47] <ice63> so jest install xsreensaver's
[10:47] <jacked> vstargazer: my bad
[10:47] <ubuntunewb> hey anyone know the unoffical documention url?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> *answer
[10:47] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: you too
[10:47] <jacked> v-stargazer: my bad
[10:47] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:47] <RichardCranium> how do I get SMP enabled on my kernel? im using 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic
[10:48] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: yeah unrequested /msg *sigh*
[10:48] <ubuntunewb> the one that tells you how to install limewire, xmms, and splash to grub and all that stuff
[10:48] <Seveas> RichardCranium, install then amd64-smp version of it
[10:48] <v-stargazer> jacked, it should be there...
[10:48] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: not 2 seconds after i signed on :(
[10:48] <glick> maybe they should go back to xscreensavior then
[10:48] <wrabbit^> ubuntunewb: ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[10:48] <ubuntunewb> thanks
[10:48] <NiteFears> is there a working monkey's audio plugin for either xine or gstreamer on x64? I couldn't find it after hours of search
[10:48] <Seveas> thoreauputic, /ignore lusers_sending_unsolicited_pm!*@* ALL
[10:48] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: assumption: ops must have answers
[10:48] <Seveas> ;)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> glick: cant it was pulled due to too many issues
[10:49] <Seveas> glick, no, definitely not.
[10:49] <Seveas> someone needs to write the configuration bits
[10:49] <glick> issues like it working?
[10:49] <RichardCranium> there doesnt appear to be linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic-smp
[10:49] <atrophic> dibblego, I'm sure I ran into this problem just last week when setting up my music as a share on my ubuntu desktop, I can't for the life of me remember what fixed it though :/  sorry
[10:50] <dibblego> atrophic, no worries, I've solved this problem too - long ago
[10:50] <atrophic> dibblego, does everything work properly from smbclient?
[10:50] <RichardCranium> apt-cache search amd64-smp reveals nothing
[10:50] <glick> hey isnt etch due out this week?
[10:50] <Seveas> RichardCranium, you need the -k8 or -xeon version, depending on the cou you have
[10:50] <dibblego> atrophic, no
[10:51] <RichardCranium> Seveas, I have a core2duo
[10:51] <glick> or edgy rather?
[10:51] <Seveas> one of the differneces is that they inclue SMP, whilst -generic dos not
[10:51] <gnomefreak> glick: no and #ubuntu+1 would be the channel for that
[10:51] <dibblego> atrophic, session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[10:51] <Seveas> try xeon then
[10:51] <jacked> v-stargazer:    in laptop file:  ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_ON_AC=1   in ACPI file: uncomment this line:  ACPI_SLEEP=true and ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=true (if you have problems, then put ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE back to false and try again)
[10:52] <glick> gnomefreak, just thought someone would know off hand
[10:52] <gnomefreak> glick: we do know
[10:52] <gnomefreak> and its not this week
[10:52] <glick> its illegal to tell me in this channel?
[10:52] <RichardCranium> ok im installing the xeon version now - whats the package called with smp ?
[10:52] <NiteFears> FYI, #ubuntu+1 is damn unresponsive, I didn't get an answer to a single question there so far
[10:52] <gnomefreak> NiteFears: maybe noone knows?
[10:53] <NiteFears> gnomefreak: someone could have attempted, at least
[10:53] <gnomefreak> im sitting there watching and if i had a clue i would tell you
[10:53] <NiteFears> looks rather like noone cares/pays attention
[10:53] <xabbuh> dibblego:  are you able to access the share by using another username/password?
[10:54] <Psychobudgie> or noone has had or seen the issue
[10:54] <dibblego> xabbuh, I can access it through Places->Connect to Server (whatever that does)
[10:54] <v-stargazer> jacked, k, I'll try that.
[10:55] <gnomefreak> NiteFears: noone knows try checking launchpad.net
[10:55] <atrophic> dibblego, what's /etc/samba/smbusers look like on the server?
[10:55] <xabbuh> dibblego:  maybe it would help, if you show use the contents of your configuration: testparm -sv | grep -v '^#'
[10:55] <RichardCranium> im astounded - it doesnt appear that either gentoo or ubuntu support a core 2 duo CPU
[10:55] <dibblego> atrophic, no such file
[10:56] <NiteFears> ok, an on-topic question: are the fixes to core 2 duo going to be backported to Dapper any time soon?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> RichardCranium: isnt the core2duo a pentium?
[10:56] <ubuntunewb> hey get this error when trying to refresh my repositories after i just added 4 of them from the ubuntu dapper wiki: W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[10:56] <dibblego> xabbuh, atrophic http://rafb.net/paste/results/1tXm0U35.html
[10:56] <RichardCranium> NiteFears, what fixes? I can't even get a kernel for the thing
[10:57] <RichardCranium> gnomefreak, yep
[10:57] <jacked> gnomefreak: that's what I thought
[10:57] <NiteFears> RichardCranium: well, I'm on edgy and using it okay
[10:57] <gnomefreak> why are you looking for amd64 than
[10:57] <AWOSDev> Well I'll be going to be now.
[10:57] <AWOSDev> s/be/bed
[10:57] <atrophic> dibblego, create that file and add 'tmorris = Administrator' to it
[10:57] <AWOSDev> 4:56am EDT
[10:57] <dibblego> atrophic, where do I add that exactly?
[10:57] <narci> .wep
[10:57] <RichardCranium> hmm my amd64 generic kernel appears to have SMP enabled...
[10:57] <AWOSDev> ubuntunewb, that's fine, it's just a warning.
[10:58] <NiteFears> RichardCranium: that's right
[10:58] <narci> .bot wep
[10:58] <atrophic> dibblego, /etc/samba/smbusers
[10:58] <AWOSDev> narci, try
[10:58] <dibblego> atrophic, ok
[10:58] <AWOSDev> !wep
[10:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:58] <ubuntunewb> ok
[10:58] <narci> darn
[10:58] <shinobi2> anyone know how to config mc's color?
[10:58] <AWOSDev> narci np :)
[10:58] <ubuntunewb> thanks AWOSDev
[10:58] <AWOSDev> ubuntunewb np :)
[10:58] <atrophic> dibblego, and run 'smbpasswd -a tmorris' to create the samba password for the user
[10:58] <narci> !wpa
[10:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:58] <AWOSDev> well g'night :)
[10:58] <RichardCranium> NiteFears, so there appears to be some confusion whether I should use a Xeon or a generic kernel
[10:59] <RichardCranium> for my core2duo
[10:59] <dibblego> atrophic, that worked
[10:59] <RichardCranium> you appear to know what you're talking about a bit, any suggestions?
[10:59] <dibblego> atrophic, I have no idea how I solved it last time though :)
[10:59] <mnepton> RichardCranium: 686SMP
[10:59] <NiteFears> RichardCranium: you have definitely no reason to use xeon, as it's a completely unrelated architecture
[10:59] <dibblego> atrophic, xabbuh thanks
[10:59] <ubuntunewb> hmm dapper didn't come with xchat preinstalled..
[10:59] <RichardCranium> NiteFears, then it would be generic for me?
[10:59] <ubuntunewb> i hate using irc on gaim
[10:59] <ubuntunewb> :-(
[10:59] <NiteFears> RichardCranium: I'm on generic, and it does use both cores
[11:00] <atrophic> dibblego, awesome (:
[11:00] <muffi__> use irssi ;)
[11:00] <RichardCranium> NiteFears, any kind of noticeable problems?
[11:00] <ubuntunewb> ah..
[11:00] <ubuntunewb> ill try it muffi__ thanks
[11:01] <NiteFears> RichardCranium: couldn't install dapper at all due to multiple problems. with edgy, I get constant beep from pc speaker during the boot and a green frame around the console
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ubuntunewb: you should be warned its texted based
[11:01] <ubuntunewb> oh, is it harder to use than bitchx
[11:01] <muffi__> it's just coooooooool. :D
[11:01] <ubuntunewb> ?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ubuntunewb: no not really
[11:01] <kandala> Hello, Everyone, Where can I get the deb file for Thunderbird-1.0?
[11:01] <RichardCranium> NiteFears, thats HORRID - im not having any issues like that
[11:01] <muffi__> imho not at all
[11:02] <ubuntunewb> lol if i used to run ftp on dos to get stuff.. i don't think i should have a problem
[11:02] <NiteFears> kandala: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[11:02] <kandala> NiteFears: That would install Thunderbird-1.5, but I need 1.0 (the older one)
[11:02] <gnomefreak> mozilla-thunderbird is the package name
[11:02] <muffi__> ubuntunewb: won't be a problem for you then
[11:03] <ubuntunewb> bah..i have to rtfm :-(
[11:03] <ubuntunewb> ill stick to gui friendly xchat
[11:03] <NiteFears> RichardCranium: well, looks like I'm using a new and different MB - Asus p5b
[11:03] <ubuntunewb> i'm being lazy
[11:03] <muffi__> ubuntunewb: try /help or /help COMMAND
[11:03] <mesha> Imo irssi is in some cases even easier than graphical clients.
[11:03] <cetex> so. where do i find w32codecs and stuff now that plf seems to be down?
[11:03] <NiteFears> RichardCranium: if you're more lucky than me to have chosen a less rare chipset than intel, you might not see this
[11:04] <RichardCranium> NiteFears, ahh asrock 775i65G here
[11:04] <muffi__> add a network, a server and some channels
[11:04] <RichardCranium> NiteFears, 865G - solid as a rock
[11:04] <mesha> irssi.org has a guide for beginner.
[11:04] <mesha> +s
[11:04] <muffi__> ubuntunewb: www.irssi.org
[11:05] <ubuntunewbie> ha..not too bad
[11:05] <RichardCranium> what the hell - the bogomips on my cpu are lower than my northwood
[11:05] <ubuntunewbie> but i can't stand all this white
[11:05] <RichardCranium> the CPU mhz is too low too
[11:06] <RichardCranium> im goiung to log on from there, this is WEIRD
[11:06] <muffi__> ubuntunewbie: you can download themes
[11:07] <adammk> i have a very strange error: the left and right keys won't do anything. the only thing i can think of that may have caused this is the Keyboard Shortcuts in System>Preferences
[11:07] <mesha> At least change terminal background to black and foreground to white.
[11:08] <RichardCranium> ok im on the box
[11:08] <mnepton> ubuntunewbie: if you want a really good and feature-complete GUI IRC client, i recommend jIRCii
[11:08] <ubuntunewbie> okay :-)
[11:08] <ubuntunewbie> thanks
[11:09] <mnepton> ubuntunewbie: do you have Sun's Java installed?
[11:09] <ubuntunewbie> not yet
[11:09] <ubuntunewbie> working on it
[11:09] <ubuntunewbie> installing through synaptic as we speak
[11:09] <RichardCranium> http://pastebin.ca/204835
[11:10] <RichardCranium> can anyone help me out with this? on my core 2 duo the CPU is only getting 1.6ghz
[11:10] <mnepton> ubuntunewbie: when that's installed, /msg me. i'll help you get everything set up :)
[11:10] <ubuntunewbie> cool thanks mnepton
[11:10] <mnepton> note to self: ping doko
[11:11] <mnepton> 02:41 [Freenode]  CTCP VERSION reply from mnepton: jIRCii - http://jirc.hick.org :: Ubuntu - Linux snowwhite 2.6.15-27-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat
[11:11] <mnepton>           Sep 16 02:35:20 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:11] <mnepton> eesh, sorry
[11:11] <ubuntunewbie> lol
[11:12] <v-stargazer> rebooting, brb
[11:12] <ubuntunewbie> jircii isn't avaible through synaptic.. so thanks for that url btw
[11:13] <RichardCranium> NiteFears, my kernel is running at the wrong speed!!!
[11:13] <mnepton> ubuntunewbie: it takes a little hand work to get it working. but i'm an old hand at it.
[11:13] <ubuntunewbie> hehe
[11:13] <jacked> RichardCranium: can you type "uname -m" and tell me what it returns (humour me)
[11:13] <NiteFears> RichardCranium: I have no cure :) try edgy
[11:13] <RichardCranium> x86_64
[11:14] <jacked> interesting
[11:14] <jacked> thanks
[11:14] <ubuntunewbie> brb gotta restart
[11:14] <RichardCranium> wow - I am horrified to report Im going to have to use windows for 64 bit processing
[11:14] <RichardCranium> I think i'll go hang myself.
[11:14] <NiteFears> RichardCranium: what processing is that?
[11:14] <holycow> what do you gotta do in 64 bit?
[11:15] <RichardCranium> you know, I wanted to run gentoo and compile in 64 bit
[11:15] <RichardCranium> but it appears that linux itself does not support the core 2 duo yet
[11:15] <NiteFears> RichardCranium: screw it and install 32-bit image :)
[11:15] <holycow> just curious what you need 64 bit for?
[11:16] <mnepton> RichardCranium: the Core Duo is *not* a 64 bit processor
[11:16] <RichardCranium> holycow, to access large pieces of memory for compiling and for running ut2004, which has a 64 bit release
[11:16] <RichardCranium> mnepton, that is correct, and irrelevant.
[11:16] <gnomefreak> its made by pentium not amd
[11:16] <holycow> RichardCranium, lol, you cannot afford hundreds of gigs of ram dude :)
[11:16] <wijnand> can anyone tell me how to align my desktop icons to the right in gnome?
[11:16] <mAIJK> Hi. Can Ubuntu with GUI run "OK" on an laptop: 500Mhz, 128Mb PC100 SDRAM, 5,6 HDD, 8Mb s3 agp2 GFX ??
[11:16] <gnomefreak> RichardCranium: very relivent since you are trying to use it as a amd64
[11:16] <mnepton> RichardCranium: then why are you asking about running 64 bit Ubuntu releases on a Core Duo?
[11:16] <RichardCranium> holycow, no, but I can afford 4
[11:17] <holycow> if ya gotta run windows, run it
[11:17] <RichardCranium> gnomefreak, scroll up, and take a puff of this my friend.
[11:17] <Psychobudgie> mAIJK,  yes
[11:17] <RichardCranium> mnepton, Im not.
[11:17] <RedGhost> Anyone know when the next version of ubuntu is going to be released (roughly?)
[11:17] <Psychobudgie> mAIJK,  I use dapper on my compaq armada m300 with PIII 500
[11:17] <mnepton> RedGhost: Oct. 26
[11:17] <boink> !edgy
[11:17] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:17] <mAIJK> Psychobudgie 128Mb sdram?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> RedGhost: 26th and please ask any edgy related questions in #ubuntu+1
[11:17] <Psychobudgie> 256 on mine
[11:18] <mnepton> RichardCranium: so then what is the problem?
[11:18] <NiteFears> !schedule
[11:18] <thoreauputic> mAIJK: xubuntu would be better - possible with the alternate CD installer on 128 MB with GNOME but not great
[11:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:18] <RichardCranium> mnepton, Im running a core 2 duo.
[11:18] <mAIJK> Psychobudgie I think 128Mb is problem
[11:18] <RedGhost> that was my only question ;\
[11:18] <mnepton> RichardCranium: and ... ?
[11:18] <Psychobudgie> mAIJK,  may be better with xubuntu with only 128
[11:18] <boink> edgy will also have upstart, looking forward to that
[11:18] <RichardCranium> mnepton, the core 2 duo IS 64 bit.
[11:18] <thoreauputic> mAIJK: the desktop installer needs at least 192 MB
[11:19] <thoreauputic> mAIJK: so, use the alternate CD
[11:19] <cetex> RichardCranium: uhm. "large pieces of memory", you can address higher memoryaddresses with 64bit processing, but i doubt you'll actually need it..
[11:19] <RichardCranium> cetex, you ought to see the difference in ut2004 between 32 and 64 bit on windoze. its insane.
[11:20] <mAIJK> thoreauputic ok, I love gnome tho... :)
[11:20] <mAIJK> But I need to use as little ram as possible
[11:20] <NiteFears> mnepton: which IS a x64 processor
[11:20] <mAIJK> So I will try xubuntu !
[11:20] <gnomefreak> RichardCranium: again you are running a core2duo and uname -m says you are running 64bit
[11:20] <NiteFears> anyway
[11:20] <RichardCranium> in 64 bit, nothing slows it down
[11:20] <jacked> RichardCranium: take a look at this   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84926.html
[11:20] <RichardCranium> gnomefreak, that is correct sir.
[11:20] <mAIJK> thoreauputic ok, thx!
[11:20] <thoreauputic> mAIJK: GNOME might be possible on 128 MB if you use the alternate CD to install
[11:20] <cetex> RichardCranium: core 2 duo is _NOT_ 64bit!
[11:20] <RichardCranium> cetex, Im not going to argue with you about it.
[11:20] <thoreauputic> mAIJK: it will probably be pretty slow though
[11:20] <gnomefreak> RichardCranium: so you are running an AMD64 kernel with a pentium proc?
[11:20] <mAIJK> thoreauputic Do you think xubuntu will run fine on 128Mb?
[11:21] <RichardCranium> amd64-generic
[11:21] <cetex> RichardCranium: so whatever you try you will not be able to run 64bit applications on a 32bit system..
[11:21] <RichardCranium> theres even amd64-xeon
[11:21] <gnomefreak> RichardCranium: MAD is not pentium
[11:21] <thoreauputic> mAIJK: yes - but again, use the alternate/ text installer CD
[11:21] <Rich43> Im trying to get XGL working on Ubuntu.
[11:21] <gnomefreak> AMD
[11:21] <jacked> cetex: not necessarily true, AFAIK
[11:21] <Rich43> I have the ATI drivers installed (followed guide on ubuntuguide.org) and I followed these instructions to install XGL: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper
[11:21] <mAIJK> thoreauputic I will! thx
[11:21] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:21] <Rich43> At the moment I am running the overclocking daddy of 32bit cpu's, the Athlon XP1700+ and a ATI 9800pro along with Ubuntu 6.06 dapper.
[11:21] <cetex> jacked: oh, well.. emulation and stuff..
[11:21] <Rich43> The problem is... when I right-click on the Beryl Manager and go to Select Window Manager --> Beryl ... it does not change it and puts it back to "Metacity". The windows on my screen blink a little while it trys to change it, I think something went wrong though.
[11:21] <thoreauputic> mAIJK: xubuntu is pretty nice :)
[11:22] <Rich43> And now for some debugging info for you guys:
[11:22] <Rich43> Output of fglrxinfo: http://pastebin.ca/204838
[11:22] <Rich43> My xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/204839
[11:22] <jacked> cetex: huh?
[11:22] <jacked> cetex: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84926.html
[11:22] <mAIJK> thoreauputic ok, I hope so :D
[11:22] <mnepton> RichardCranium: i still don't know the exact problem that will force you back to Windows.
[11:22] <RichardCranium> mnepton, the core 2 duo CPU is not properly supported.
[11:23] <Rich43> Someone help me please?!?
[11:23] <defrysk> !ask
[11:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:23] <mnepton> RichardCranium: example? have you filed a Malone bug? any similar reports on LP? can another person reproduce it?
[11:23] <Rich43> defrysk: I did ask silly!
[11:23] <RichardCranium> mnepton, I havent filed a thing. I just installed it maybe 10 minutes ago
[11:24] <Rich43> defrysk: try reading.
[11:24] <mnepton> RichardCranium: then it's a little early to say "it's not properly supported," imo
[11:24] <RichardCranium> mnepton, not really
[11:24] <RichardCranium> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
[11:24] <sharperguy> ok, whats the terminal command to unzip something into a folder with the same name as the zip (w/o .zip extension)
[11:25] <thoreauputic> sharperguy: umm - unzip
[11:25] <mAIJK> thoreauputic Is there any guide for tweaking xunbutu/ubuntu? Shut down animations and apps that loads and so on?
[11:25] <sharperguy> lol
[11:25] <gnomefreak> RichardCranium: did you happen to read the part of that page about dapper?
[11:25] <defrysk> silly me :s
[11:25] <holycow> RichardCranium, what do you mean core 2 duo is not supported
[11:25] <thoreauputic> mAIJK: I think you'll find xubuntu takes care of that - it's quite lean
[11:26] <holycow> all reports are its supported fine
[11:26] <gnomefreak> it says Fixed in Dapper Status/Notes
[11:26] <holycow> where are you running into issues?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Not Yet
[11:26] <mAIJK> thoreauputic okay :)
[11:26] <mnepton> RichardCranium: that says nothing about the architecture itself, merely the hardware around it.
[11:26] <RichardCranium> gnomefreak, did you happen to pay attention to the context or did you just read the text in that one spot and make an assumption?
[11:26] <thoreauputic> mAIJK: or you can install fluxbox ;-) ( I like fluxbox.. )
[11:26] <mnepton> RichardCranium: if you want to live on the bleeding edge, don't complain about the scabs.
[11:26] <gnomefreak> RichardCranium: i read it
[11:26] <holycow> allright lets see that wiki
[11:27] <gnomefreak> and if you look 99% of it talks about the 2.6.17 kernel
[11:27] <v-stargazer> jacked: no joy, it's still not doing what I want...
[11:27] <RichardCranium> mnepton, um ok, so if something isnt supported people shouldnt mention it and the prob doesnt get fixed :) brilliant
[11:27] <mAIJK> thoreauputic I have tried that, thats to hard to conf i think?
[11:27] <mAIJK> I want to install and then run on my lappy
[11:27] <jacked> v-stargazer: does sleep work at all?
[11:27] <RichardCranium> ok system update done, brb
[11:27] <mnepton> RichardCranium: you have yet to tell us what isn't supported.
[11:27] <v-stargazer> Sleep works
[11:27] <v-stargazer> Hibernate works
[11:28] <RichardCranium> mnepton, right now it looks like the full CPU speed
[11:28] <thoreauputic> mAIJK: ah, well there are good docs linked from http://fluxbox.org - but try xubuntu first and see what you think
[11:28] <jacked> v-stargazer: but doesn't work when the lid is closed, is that the only issue at this point?
[11:28] <RichardCranium> brb
[11:28] <gnomefreak> RichardCranium: show me where on that page it says anything about dapper or 2.6.15 kernel
[11:28] <constricted> hi, whats the default page file size?
[11:28] <v-stargazer> I'm just trying to get the monitor to shut off while the rest of the machine stays on so it can play streaming audio.
[11:28] <mnepton> RichardCranium: so what version of the BIOS do you have and how does it handle stepping?
[11:28] <Rich43> My question is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1622889    If anyone has a answer, reply here or reply to thread please!
[11:28] <constricted> and can i switch it after install?
[11:28] <soundray> I'd like to filter stdin for lines that contain either 'Patient' or 'Date' or both. How do I use grep correctly?
[11:28] <mnepton> constricted: that question is meaningless on Linux
[11:29] <constricted> oops meant os swap
[11:29] <constricted> (i think its differnt word for same thing? )
[11:29] <v-stargazer> jacked: wasn't having a problem with Sleep/Hibernate.
[11:29] <mnepton> constricted: again, that question is meaningless on Linux
[11:29] <Shadow_mil> Whats the apt-get install name for samba?
[11:29] <thoreauputic> Shadow_mil: samba , funnily enough
[11:29] <mnepton> constricted: Linux uses a partition for swap. and you don;t resize partitions.
[11:29] <holycow> http://system76.com/index.php/cPath/1?osCsid=f33aa83347d96f6914d033977db78b04
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Shadow_mil: sudo apt-get install samba
[11:30] <constricted> ... you mean i said the wrong term, or its not important?
[11:30] <thoreauputic> !info samba
[11:30] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB
[11:30] <holycow> neato
[11:30] <constricted> oh ok, thanks
[11:30] <constricted> so is the default size 1 or 2 gb?
[11:30] <babo> X-lite softphone isn't in the repos ?
[11:30] <mnepton> constricted: it's whatever you make the partition
[11:30] <Shadow_mil> normally it likes samba-common-forever-all-I_LOVE_YOU.45-98
[11:30] <thoreauputic> constricted: that depends on your ram and your preference
[11:30] <constricted> k ty, would >2gb help?
[11:31] <thoreauputic> constricted: no
[11:31] <gnomefreak> constricted: how much ram do you have?
[11:31] <constricted> 4 GB
[11:31] <thoreauputic> constricted: how much RAM do you have?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> constricted: you better not need a swap at all
[11:31] <v-stargazer> Guess I scared him off...:(
[11:31] <fredl> are kprobes now turned on in the Ubuntu kernel?
[11:31] <constricted> ah ok, ill just not use one, thanx!
[11:32] <soundray> constricted: that's not a wise decision
[11:32] <constricted> wow i am SO impressed, i can USE IRC WHILE I INSTALL AN OS
[11:32] <gnomefreak> constricted: i would use one of 1gig but you will really not need it unless you are running all kinds of crap
[11:32] <constricted> and get help... this has got to be the best thing ever :)
[11:33] <holycow> well there are a few things better, but no one will argue withca :)
[11:33] <holycow> welcome
[11:33] <fredl> constricted, where are you getting help??
[11:33] <patient> Hi I'm Patient in Kinsahsa
[11:33] <constricted> oh, on web and here
[11:33] <holycow> hello patient from kinshasa
[11:33] <babo> where would I put a 'user' executable so as to be in 'user' path ?
[11:33] <Rich43> constricted: yes its a great idea! my wireless works with no extra drivers!
[11:34] <patient> I'm a new user and i'd like some help
[11:34] <constricted> this live CD... i mean im going to be able to use it on school computers now
[11:34] <thoreauputic> patient: just ask :)
[11:34] <constricted> awesome++++
[11:34] <kyja> patient, ok there might be a doctor in teh houze
[11:34] <v-stargazer> constricted, only if they are set up to boot from cdrom beefore hd
[11:35] <v-stargazer> before, even...
[11:35] <babo> so USER can't move an executable into it's own path ?
[11:35] <constricted> they have 0 security, i ususally just ssh into my own pc
[11:35] <Rich43> He could wipe their hard drives and install ubuntu on them
[11:35] <Rich43> :D
[11:35] <mnepton> babo: they can move it wherever they like, in their own $HOME
[11:35] <Rich43> pee off some techies
[11:35] <thoreauputic> babo: what are you actually trying to do?
[11:35] <constricted> lol
[11:35] <fredl> babo, root can.
[11:36] <babo> yeah, but HOME isn't in the path ...
[11:36] <fredl> babo, root is also a user.
[11:36] <fredl> babo, then you ADD HOME to the PATH
[11:36] <v-stargazer> constricted, heh, the computers at the schools I went to wouldn't let you boot from cd or usb, and they had this nasty web filter...
[11:36] <thoreauputic> fredl: bad idea
[11:36] <patient> Holycow
[11:36] <constricted> i DO know the admin password (my spanish teacher is network admin also and had it written down) i gues i COULD do that, risky tho :)
[11:36] <babo> fredl: user can't add HOME to PATH ...
[11:36] <constricted> they have web filter but its awful
[11:36] <fredl> babo, yes you can.
[11:36] <thoreauputic> babo: you can add ~/bin to your path and put scripts etc there
[11:36] <fredl> babo, export PATH=$PATH:$HOME
[11:36] <thoreauputic> fredl: I repeat, bad idea
[11:37] <fredl> thoreauputic, depend on which perspective you use.
[11:37] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[11:37] <v-stargazer> constricted, you do realize that to set a computer up to boot from cdrom you have to get into the BIOS, right?
[11:37] <soundray> Please help with grep: how do I match line that contain either of two strings?
[11:37] <bun-bun> !kde > bun-bun
[11:37] <babo> thoreauputic, what if you did PATH=$HOME:$PATH ... ?  safer ?
[11:38] <babo> oops, no - never mind ...
[11:38] <constricted> o ya forgot
[11:38] <RichardCranium> ok so I got booted up at the correct mhz
[11:38] <babo> OK thanks anyway ... guys
[11:38] <constricted> cant you pop out/in the chip to reset it tho?
[11:38] <RichardCranium> had to turn off all the laptop stuff that was enabled by default
[11:38] <v-stargazer> constricted: And most of the time the BIOS password will be differrent from other admin passwords. Though they may use the same BIOS pass for different machines...
[11:38] <Ademan>   /media/hda1 represents the first or second partition on the first hard drive?
[11:39] <mnepton> first
[11:39] <constricted> knowing him he might not even have set one :)
[11:39] <RichardCranium> now, im wondering why my bogomips in cat /proc/cpuinfo are so much lower than my northwood 2.6
[11:39] <RichardCranium> unless thats just a clock speed thing
[11:39] <fredl> !bogomips
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bogomips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <v-stargazer> constricted, depends on the mobo, some use the same sort of flash memory the usb memory sticks use and aren't affected by loss of power.
[11:39] <thoreauputic> RichardCranium:  bogomips = bogus mips - they don't mean much really
[11:40] <Shadow_mil> How can I configure samba in a GUI environment?
[11:40] <v-stargazer> Also, some mobos have security features that orewserve settings regardless of w\hat you do.
[11:40] <fredl> are kprobes turned on in Dapper?
[11:40] <thoreauputic> RichardCranium: e.g. my PPC iBook shows low bogomips but runs as fast as my 686 PC
[11:40] <mesha> soundray: maybe "foobar | grep -G foo || bar"
[11:41] <mesha> I mean foobar | grep -G foo | bar.
[11:41] <patient> Hello Kyja
[11:41] <v-stargazer> Some mobos have jumper settings for resetting the BIOS
[11:41] <kyja> hello patient
[11:42] <gnomefreak> v-stargazer: i use the battery for that ;)
[11:42] <thoreauputic> RichardCranium: don't get obsessed by meaningless numbers
[11:42] <RichardCranium> im not
[11:42] <constricted> im guessing older pcs not have those tho, our schools are ~8 years old
[11:42] <kyja> so you have a brand new sexy ubuntu, =]  what help would you like patient ?
[11:42] <RichardCranium> hmph no sse3
[11:43] <patient> Install web apache server?
[11:43] <mesha> Essch, it's grep "foo\|bar"...
[11:43] <constricted> can i use another windows manager too?
[11:43] <kyja> patient, =]  sweet.
[11:43] <constricted> (choose on boot or something)
[11:43] <gnomefreak> patient: sudo apt-get install apache2?
[11:43] <kyja> patient, try this. open terminal
[11:43] <soundray> mesha: thanks, I've got it
[11:44] <soundray> mesha: is 'grep -G' the same as egrep?
[11:44] <v-stargazer> It could be easy, or difficult, depending on the hardware you have to work with and the expertise of your computer tech (and how ignorant he/she believes the students to be)
[11:44] <kyja> patient, then type sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:44] <v-stargazer> constricted: You mean a bootloader?
[11:44] <mesha> soundray: Yup.
[11:45] <soundray> mesha: little secrets :)  Thanks again
[11:45] <gnomefreak> v-stargazer: i think he means like mc or rox
[11:45] <mesha> np
[11:45] <patient> where do I start?
[11:46] <kyja> patient, can you open a terminal ?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:46] <gnomefreak> v-stargazer: window managers like metacity or kwin
[11:46] <patient> no,
[11:46] <constricted> i dont know, new to linux :( dont want to install kbuntu or anything, just have the ability to use ubuntu /w xgl/compics, or kde/, etc
[11:46] <fnoyan> hi
[11:47] <kyja> patient, menu= Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[11:47] <fnoyan> is it possible to use debian packages for ubuntu or ubunru has its own packages
[11:47] <gnomefreak> com4: so you want compiz/xgl?
[11:47] <constricted> yeah
[11:47] <thoreauputic> fnoyan: use ubuntu packages
[11:47] <constricted> looked pretty flashy :)
[11:47] <patient> terminal done
[11:47] <thoreauputic> fnoyan: using debian packages is not a good idea in general
[11:47] <snoop> fnoyan: ubuntu is based on debian
[11:48] <kyja> patient, then type sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:48] <gnomefreak> constricted: join #ubuntu-xgl if noone there can help there is a guide in the topic just type /topic and you will see it
[11:48] <constricted> ok, thanks!
[11:48] <gnomefreak> constricted: np
[11:48] <v-stargazer> gnomefreak, don't know what a window manager is, unable to determine definition from context, please rephrase...
[11:48] <fnoyan> thoreauputic : but we can. and what about the amount of packages in repo? just a prediction?
[11:48] <Shadow_mil> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[11:48] <Shadow_mil> Xlib: No protocol specified
[11:48] <Shadow_mil> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[11:48] <Shadow_mil> Xlib: No protocol specified
[11:48] <Shadow_mil> (shares-admin:22703): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:48] <gnomefreak> v-stargazer: metacity = window manager for gnome kwin= for kde
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Shadow_mil: use pastebin please
[11:48] <Shadow_mil> gnomefreak: sorry
[11:48] <thoreauputic> fnoyan: 17 000 or so - but note: debian packages are not binary compatible in many caases
[11:49] <fnoyan> thoreauputic : hmm..but the sources are, right?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> v-stargazer: window managers job is to draw the windows/frames that you see
[11:49] <patient> great
[11:49] <hali> are there any known acpi bugs that would cause my core2 (2.13Ghz) processor to always run at 800Mhz (shown in /proc/cpuinfo)?
[11:49] <thoreauputic> fnoyan: you need to enable universe and multiverse for the full number
[11:49] <thoreauputic> fnoyan: yes, source code is OK
[11:49] <v-stargazer> Ah, that's what they do
[11:49] <fnoyan> ohh, so a bit headache!
[11:50] <gnomefreak> v-stargazer: some of what they do
[11:50] <thoreauputic> !repos > fnoyan
[11:50] <patient> installing package
[11:50] <RichardCranium> ok time to try out nvidia
[11:50] <kyja> patient, =] 
[11:50] <thoreauputic> fnoyan: not really - quite easy
[11:50] <Shadow_mil> http://pastebin.ca/204866
[11:51] <fnoyan> anyway, i just want to get a general idea about the package system. what about system administarion?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: does nautulis draw its own windows? or does metacity do that?
[11:51] <thoreauputic> fnoyan: you can enable repos in Add/Remove with a few clicks
[11:51] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: metacity
[11:51] <fnoyan> is there a utility (like redhat's linuxconf or suse's yast)?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[11:51] <kyja> v-stargazer, ubuntu=gnome kubuntu=kde then there are other projects with other managers also.
[11:51] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: assuming you mean the window borders etc
[11:51] <Shadow_mil> http://pastebin.ca/204866
[11:52] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: yes
[11:52] <Paddy_EIRE> mourning all
[11:52] <patient> My web server's started...
[11:52] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: for instance you can run nautilus --nodesktop in fluxbox and you het fluxbox decorations ;)
[11:53] <gnomefreak> ah nice
[11:53] <thoreauputic> umm --no-desktop I think actually
[11:53] <Paddy_EIRE> patient: fancy giving me some space :p
[11:53] <gnomefreak> i forgot about the --nodesktop flag
[11:53] <kyja> so anybosy have an idea about 3d excelorator so my cpu does not max out on the dang matrixview screensaver ?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:53] <patient> I'll b back
[11:53] <gnomefreak> kyja: what video card?
[11:53] <kyja> gnomefreak, its an ati x600
[11:54] <gnomefreak> !ati
[11:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:54] <kyja> thx I will look gnomefreak
[11:55] <mngrif> what would be the best way to reinstall ubuntu without losing /home (backups are for all intesive purposes are impossible)
[11:55] <wildchild> Please help: I was compyling gnash while there was an error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:55] <thoreauputic> fnoyan: admin is mostly under System - Administration
[11:55] <mngrif> rename it and tell it to not format?
[11:56] <thoreauputic> wildchild:  try  xlibs-dev ( install that)
[11:56] <v-stargazer> So if I have to reinstall I can simply choose to not format it. ;)
[11:57] <RichardCranium> ok - im amazed - its working!
[11:57] <RichardCranium> so that makes ubuntu more "bleeding edge" than gentoo :P
[11:57] <thoreauputic> RichardCranium: hush, theymight hear you ;-)
[11:58] <cpk2> mngrif: only one drive? how much free space you have? i think you would make a new partition from free space and then move /home over?
[11:58] <RichardCranium> thoreauputic, no its cool, I installed gentoo first - they dont really support the core2duo in 64 bit mode yet
[11:58] <v-stargazer> mngrif, if you can, make your /home a seperate partition, then, choose not to reformat it when you reinstall...as cpk2 said...
[11:58] <mngrif> cpk2: that is an option, but i'd rather not constrain myself by doing that
[11:58] <mnepton> RichardCranium: maybe your initial assessment of Core 2 Duo on Ubuntu was somewhat hasty?
[11:58] <RichardCranium> ill keep an eye on gentoo and put it on when its better developed for my cpu
[11:59] <mngrif> v-stargazer: that's my typical strategy, but i didn't do it this time (obviously)
[11:59] <RichardCranium> mnepton, it would certainly appear that way
[11:59] <cpk2> mngrif: then during the install you could enlarge the partition
[11:59] <mnepton> RichardCranium: funroll-loops ;)
[12:00] <thoreauputic> RichardCranium: so how much faster is Gentoo? 0.5% ? 1 % ?  /me ducks and runs to -offtopic
[12:00] <thoreauputic> *g*
[12:00] <aixing> hey anyone found a work around for the x-fi sound card? [currently no drivers from soundblaster] 
[12:00] <v-stargazer> mngrif: Good Luck...
[12:01] <mnepton> emerge sense-of-linux-superiority --teach-me-linux
[12:01] <mngrif> but if i rename it and tell ubuntu to not format the partition...?
[12:01] <mngrif> any reason d-i would rm stuff before unpacking?
[12:02] <v-stargazer> BBL
[12:02] <constricted> under my XFS partition it says "free space not availible", why would that be?
[12:02] <thoreauputic> mnepton: emerge patience-watching-compiles-roll-by
[12:03] <Willster> hey...not really sure if anyone can help me with this....and I realize the cedega IRC room would probably be more appropriate, but has anyone had issues with playing civ4 running under cedega?
[12:03] <Nothing_about> HEY I REALLY NEED HELP im very new to ubuntu and have never used linux but im starting to learn
[12:04] <thoreauputic> constricted: preumably because there isn't any free space ther?
[12:04] <Nothing_about> i need to install something
[12:04] <Nothing_about> using terminal
[12:04] <mnepton> Nothing_about: what do you need to install?
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask
[12:04] <Nothing_about> when i type in the command su , it asks for my root password
[12:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:04] <constricted> use apt
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about: try saying what you want to install
[12:04] <mngrif> Nothing_about: sudo -i
[12:04] <Nothing_about> the problem is during installation of ubuntu
[12:04] <Willster> It was running perfectly fine, albeit extremely slow before I enabled direct rendering on my card.  Now I can't see the menu's at all when I start it up.
[12:04] <constricted> why is my XFS partition unavilible?
[12:04] <mnepton> Nothing_about: first, *what* are you trying to install?
[12:04] <Nothing_about> it never asked me for root password set up
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about: not your root pass unless you set one
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> !root
[12:04] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:04] <thoreauputic> !root
[12:05] <mngrif> Nothing_about: "sudo -i". try it.
[12:05] <Nothing_about> how do i set my root password
[12:05] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:05] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about: ubuntu uses sudo
[12:05] <Nothing_about> brb
[12:05] <constricted> i think root acct off by default
[12:05] <mngrif> it is
[12:05] <Rookie_> sudo is just more developed in ubuntu - but sudo is not anything new in linuxworld
[12:05] <Nothing_about> sudo
[12:05] <Willster> you can change root password by doing "sudo password" or something similiar i think...don't recall the exact command
[12:05] <Nothing_about> as root passsword
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone try the crappy vista rc2 build yet?
[12:05] <mnepton> the first thing is not telling him how to use sudo, but finding out *what* he wants to install, and pointing him at apt-get if appropriate.
[12:05] <Nothing_about> well i used the command su -
[12:05] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about: no, it wants your USER pass
[12:06] <Nothing_about> yeah but ive tried my user pass
[12:06] <Nothing_about> and it didnt work
[12:06] <constricted> dick manager says my XFS partition is not availible, any idea y?
[12:06] <Nothing_about> im emulating ubuntu with vmware
[12:06] <thoreauputic> su means "switch user" - it won't give you root in ubuntu by default
[12:06] <Nothing_about> and im trying to install the vmware tools
[12:07] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about:  sudo <command here>
[12:07] <Nothing_about> and i was following instructions where i have to type in su - in terminal and then after that enter in my root password
[12:07] <thoreauputic> no
[12:07] <thoreauputic> see above
[12:07] <constricted> never mind figured out
[12:07] <Nothing_about> oh
[12:07] <Nothing_about> so su mean switch users eh
[12:07] <thoreauputic> yes
[12:07] <mnepton> Nothing_about: can;t install those fromt he VMware Server console?
[12:07] <aixing> Nothing_about: use "sudo + the command you want to run" like apt-get install foo the password its asks for is the one you used to log in
[12:08] <gnomefreak> Nothing_about: no it means super user
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> !foo
[12:08] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <RichardCranium> i love my puppy but she's a disgusting little creature.
[12:08] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about: in most distros it defaults to root as the user to switch to - in ubuntu you use sudo <command>
[12:08] <Nothing_about> well ive installed ubuntu desktop on vmware
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> I like cake
[12:08] <Nothing_about> but anyways so i just type in sudo and command and thats it
[12:09] <Nothing_about> it will start installing the extracted file from my desktop
[12:09] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about: read the link about root and sudo
[12:09] <thoreauputic> !root
[12:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: and RichardCranium can you please keep the offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> sry
[12:09] <RichardCranium> I apologize
[12:09] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:10] <Nothing_about> well can anyone here explain to me
[12:10] <Nothing_about> what this tut is trying to do
[12:10] <Nothing_about> http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_newguest_tools_linux.html#wp1127177
[12:10] <Nothing_about> from vmware website link
[12:10] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about: try asking in #vmware perhaps
[12:11] <thoreauputic> Nothing_about: currently 61 people there ....
[12:11] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:11] <Nothing_about> thnxz for the help
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how I can download the "Lyrics" plugin/script that amarok uses as for some reason mine has stopped working....or where is the script located by default
[12:11] <Nothing_about> i didnt know what i was doing
[12:11] <thoreauputic> np :)
[12:12] <RichardCranium> crud, my dvd isnt mounting
[12:13] <RichardCranium> says theres a media error but theres never one in winders
[12:13] <RichardCranium> do I have to do something to enable dvd support ?
[12:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !multimedia
[12:13] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:14] <RichardCranium> this is a data dvd
[12:14] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium:  oh, then it should work
[12:14] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium: what is the content of the disc
[12:14] <wildchild> Another problem while I was compyling gnash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26985/  advice won't be bad.
[12:15] <RichardCranium> it is the isos of my ut2004 cd's
[12:15] <aixing> hey chaps anyone got the x-fi sound card working?
[12:15] <hypnox> does anyone know of a tool to show the disk writes in real time? (and what is making them)
[12:15] <constricted> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-sdc1".
[12:15] <RichardCranium> just 6 isos on a dvd works find in winders
[12:15] <constricted> how do i view? no prompt for a password
[12:15] <poningru> RichardCranium: then no you dont need to
[12:16] <constricted> its a ntfs partition
[12:16] <normal> Can I compile my own ubuntu install cd using a kernel from another distro?
[12:16] <poningru> !ntfs
[12:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:16] <constricted> thanks
[12:17] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium: the cd should mount, could you paste the contents of your fstab to pastebin
[12:18] <normal> I'm able to install Gentoo, Suse, Knoppix, and Fedora, but Every Ubuntu version refuses to boot! Do I have any options?
[12:18] <Paddy_EIRE> *dvd
[12:18] <RichardCranium> Paddy_EIRE, it says it has a bad sector
[12:18] <erUSUL> normal: in the install wiki page there is a how to to install with knoppix
[12:18] <KenSentMe> normal: it refuses to boot after install or the livecd refuses to boot?
[12:18] <erUSUL> !install
[12:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:18] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium: yet you say it works fine in win
[12:18] <RichardCranium> its saying that for anything that pops into that drive - thats not cool
[12:19] <RichardCranium> Paddy_EIRE, yeah
[12:19] <erUSUL> normal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix
[12:19] <RichardCranium> i popped in the ut2004 cd and it didnt mount either
[12:19] <Paddy_EIRE> then do the fstab pastebin for me
[12:19] <normal> the livecd, once I hit boot,  it freezes
[12:20] <RichardCranium> HMPH this is NOT good at all
[12:20] <mnepton> normal: md5sum the image you have, then burn again at <8x speed
[12:20] <mike_stern> how can i install the apache full package? apt-get ?
[12:20] <RichardCranium> it mounted manually
[12:21] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" then copy the cotents of that to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ then give me the link that is created
[12:21] <normal> I believe it's the kernel, as I can use 2.6.9(Breezy), but anything higher(from Ubuntu) refuses to work..Alternate, desktop, 386, 64, Kubuntu, Edgy, etc...
[12:22] <RichardCranium> says connection was interrupted
[12:22] <jaro> hello there. Is this the right place to have some questions about data recovery. My disk crashed and left my data partition (with /home, reiserfs) useless. I'd like to ask about some technical details that would shed some light on my chances of getting my data back.
[12:22] <normal> 2.6.12, 15, and 17 all freeze right after picking them in GRUB
[12:22] <champ> need help about ntfs read/write on boot-up how come i cant see my ntfs partition? i flollowed d instruction here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[12:22] <erUSUL> normal: why not install breezy and then upgrade? ) (it will be tedius but...) have you tried to boot with acpi=off?
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> normal: what processor type are you using
[12:23] <RichardCranium> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26986/
[12:23] <RichardCranium> Paddy_EIRE, that was for you
[12:23] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[12:23] <RichardCranium> Paddy_EIRE, I think I have to add something there to add dvd support
[12:24] <RichardCranium> or maybe take udf out
[12:24] <gnomefreak> champ: writing to ntfs is at best very unstable and not recommended
[12:24] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah its the way its most likely something simple
[12:25] <champ> gnomefreak: could you help me fix it? i really want it to work ^^
[12:25] <Crissi> hi
[12:25] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium: just wondering how many dvd/cd drives you gott
[12:25] <Crissi> dd if=img.tmp of=filesystem.image bs=64k skip=11 conv=sync
[12:25] <Crissi> 36+1 records in
[12:25] <Crissi> 37+0 records out
[12:25] <Crissi> Segmentation fault
[12:25] <Crissi> whats wrong in dapper?
[12:25] <RichardCranium> Paddy_EIRE, just one
[12:26] <gnomefreak> champ: i cant help you with write not much help with mounting but try this link
[12:26] <RichardCranium> Paddy_EIRE, they mount when I do it manually
[12:26] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[12:26] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[12:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:27] <champ> gnomefreak: thanx... very much appreciated^^
[12:27] <glick> a quick question, how can i make it so that a user can not look at another users files?
[12:27] <constricted> umm what do all the !whatever mean? they dont do anything in terminal
[12:27] <Rookie_> hello ubotu
[12:27] <gnomefreak> constricted: !fact retrieve fact from the bot
[12:28] <gnomefreak> constricted: perferred way is to use /msg ubotu fact
[12:28] <frogzoo> Crissi: strace ?
[12:28] <RichardCranium> yeah thats just weird  - the drive cant mount cds unless I do it manually - udf had nothing to do with it
[12:28] <constricted> thanks
[12:28] <constricted> !fact
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fact - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <glick> does anyone know how to make it so a user cant view another users files?
[12:29] <Nothing_about> hey
[12:29] <Nothing_about> im back with a question
[12:29] <frogzoo> glick: remove group read & execute on the directory
[12:29] <normal> I'm gonna try using smartbootmanager to install... Good luck to Me!!!(selfish, but I've been  trying for 2 weeks!)
[12:29] <Nothing_about> i need some help here people
[12:29] <frogzoo> glick: remove group/everyone read & execute on the directory
[12:29] <Nothing_about> because i dont know what im doing
[12:29] <Nothing_about> but im learning some new stuff
[12:29] <glick> who the hell is this priher guy and why is he msging me weird stuff?
[12:29] <Rookie_> ask the Q instead of saying alot of other things
[12:30] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: just say what your problem is, if someone can help, they will
[12:30] <KenSentMe> Nothing_about: you're typing in an irc channel :P
[12:30] <Nothing_about> ok well im trying to install this vmware tools onto the lattest ubuntu
[12:30] <soundray> glick: To hide files of user1: chmod -R o-rwx /home/user1
[12:30] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: meaning dapper, Yes?
[12:30] <soundray> glick: read up on chmod with man chmod
[12:30] <Nothing_about> problem is while i was following instructions it asks me to get sudo privilages
[12:30] <Nothing_about> yeh dapper
[12:31] <Nothing_about> pretty much ive extracted the trgz
[12:31] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: fine so far
[12:31] <gnomefreak> priher: please respect others enough to ask before pming them thank you
[12:31] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:31] <Nothing_about> and now im in my command prompt and going sudo dir desktop/vmware-tools-distrib
[12:32] <Nothing_about> and now it asks that i start vmware-install.pl
[12:32] <Crissi> frogzoo: http://paste.debian.net/14962
[12:32] <glick> i think i have the perfect x-mas present for my mom...her very own laptop running ubuntu
[12:32] <Nothing_about> so should i type in
[12:32] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: you need to cd to the 'vmware-player-distrib' directory, then 'sudo ./vmware-install.pl', as per the docs
[12:33] <Nothing_about> sudo dir Desktop/vmware-tools-distrib/vmware-install.pl ? to start vmware tool install or is this the wrong way to do it ? and how do i do it properly
[12:33] <Nothing_about> what do you mean cd the vmware player ?
[12:33] <KEA0463>  does anyone know about the ati fireGl v7200 graphics card
[12:33] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: can i pm u a sec
[12:34] <KEA0463> trying to figure out what watt power box it needs
[12:34] <KEA0463> 400 watts or 450 watts
[12:34] <asabil> hi all
[12:34] <adammk> !restricted
[12:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:34] <soundray> glick: have you read my response?
[12:34] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: use the 'cd' command changes directories
[12:34] <glick> yeah soundray thanks
[12:35] <asabil> is it possible to request a .deb package here ?
[12:35] <Nothing_about> well problem is im a newbie
[12:35] <Nothing_about> and im learning everything from scratch
[12:35] <Nothing_about> so i dont know what im talking about half the time
[12:35] <Nothing_about> but i understand some of it ... can you plz help install this succesfully
[12:36] <KEA0463> hello
[12:36] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: how about me dropping you a quick pm, will only take a sec
[12:36] <RichardCranium> Paddy_EIRE, got any idea what would cause my error?
[12:36] <KEA0463> how many watts does powerbox need to be for ati fireGL V7200 to work?
[12:36] <frogzoo> Crissi: if this help any, I can run that command against a kernel image, and it works fine
[12:37] <KEA0463> 400 or 450?
[12:37] <Nothing_about> wait
[12:37] <Nothing_about> frogzoo i got ONe question
[12:37] <asabil> Nothing_about, what's the roblem ?
[12:37] <Nothing_about> do i need vmware tools to be installed
[12:37] <Nothing_about> oh well problem is i dont know how to install my vmware tools
[12:37] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium: sry for not gettin back to u, your entry is the exact same as mine except my cd/dvd is hdd rather that yours hdc
[12:37] <Paddy_EIRE> kinda dont know
[12:37] <Nothing_about> but i have the lattest ubuntu linux installed
[12:37] <asabil> no you don't, but you should
[12:38] <aixing> Nothing_about: why dont you ask that question on #vmawre
[12:38] <asabil> Nothing_about, running a ubuntu inside a vmware ?
[12:38] <Nothing_about> i did
[12:38] <frogzoo> Crissi: what's more, clock_gettime is returning null for some reason, probly causing sigsegv I'm guessing
[12:38] <Nothing_about> but no one is there
[12:38] <Nothing_about> yeah
[12:38] <Nothing_about> right now as we speak
[12:38] <Nothing_about> im running ubuntu
[12:38] <aixing> well.. its not really an Ubuntu issues is it?
[12:38] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: you only need vmware if you want to run virtual machines, but it's not needed for anything else
[12:39] <Nothing_about> and need help installing vmware . the vmware chat room is not active and everyone is not there
[12:39] <Nothing_about> yeah i know
[12:39] <Nothing_about> i wanna run virtually ubuntu so i can start to learn how to use it
[12:39] <snowblink> Nothing_about, it's not necessary to install vmware tools
[12:39] <aixing> you can still use Ubuntu while you wait for them to respond cant you?
[12:39] <snowblink> Nothing_about, but it does help if you want to run higher screen res/colours.
[12:39] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: you're going to use ubuntu to run ubuntu virtually ?
[12:39] <Nothing_about> yeh
[12:39] <cypher1> is there any documents for interpreting the output of commands like "dpkg --list" or "dpkg --listfiles" ?
[12:40] <Nothing_about> yes
[12:40] <Nothing_about> its running virtually right now
[12:40] <RichardCranium> Paddy_EIRE, io_32bit is not enabled -might that have something to do with it or is it supposed to be like that?
[12:40] <snowblink> Nothing_about, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[12:40] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:40] <snowblink> cd /media
[12:40] <frogzoo> Nothing_about: I suggest you start with a basic ubuntu install on a spare partition, and work up to figuring out vmware
[12:40] <aixing> in my experience, like snowbike says its not neccessary, but to get a good idea of what you may be missing out ono wait and ask them on #vmware
[12:41] <Nothing_about> oh but i cant
[12:41] <vito_corleone> hey how do i remove ubuntu from the comp...
[12:41] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium: i cant be sure
[12:41] <Nothing_about> thats one of the problems
[12:41] <vito_corleone> can i just reformate the linux parion??
[12:41] <frogzoo> vito_corleone: format the ubuntu partitions
[12:41] <vito_corleone> frogzoo: ah k thanks ...:)
[12:41] <Nothing_about> now what terminal is running
[12:41] <asabil> vito_corleone, why are you leaving ?
[12:41] <frogzoo> vito_corleone: if you want grub gone, you'll need to do a /fixmbr
[12:42] <inzy> i'm having probs installing nvidia drivers? my xorg.conf changes part way through the process, from an nvidia quadro to a radeon when i run the line to update the md5sum
[12:42] <vito_corleone> asneed some space for backing up stuff...
[12:42] <snowblink> Nothing_about, have you told VMWare that you want to install the tools?
[12:42] <Nothing_about> yes
[12:42] <vito_corleone> asabil: need spave for backing stuff
[12:42] <Nothing_about> vmware tools cd is on the desktop
[12:42] <snowblink> Nothing_about, hang on, while I bring up Ubuntu in a VM...
[12:42] <frogzoo> zcat[1] : devine "normal"  - heh
[12:42] <constricted> hmmm how come 16 by 1200 isnt on the change resolution?
[12:42] <zcat[1] > frogzoo: oh, I see you said that
[12:42] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:42] <vito_corleone> asabil: space*... will install the new beta version later....
[12:43] <asabil> okey vito_corleone
[12:43] <shans_home> is there anyway to stop 'lock screen' from activating when I close the lid of my laptop?
[12:43] <zcat[1] > normal == not grub :)
[12:43] <Nothing_about> hey snowblink go to #vmware its empty and no one is talking
[12:43] <shans_home> (dapper)
[12:43] <zcat[1] > shans_home: 'don't close it' :-)
[12:43] <shans_home> zcat[1] : thanks
[12:43] <frogzoo> shans_home: in power prefs
[12:43] <shans_home> frogzoo: aaah, OK
[12:43] <snowblink> Nothing_about, probably ##vmware... anyway
[12:44] <snowblink> Nothing_about, double click the icon on the desktop
[12:44] <shans_home> frogzoo: set it to do nothing?
[12:44] <snowblink> Nothing_about, you should see two files
[12:44] <Nothing_about> yes
[12:44] <frogzoo> shans_home: this a trick question ?
[12:44] <snowblink> Nothing_about, drag the tar.gz to your desktop
[12:44] <Nothing_about> there are two files
[12:44] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:44] <Nothing_about> brb
[12:44] <shans_home> frogzoo: no, it just seems strange that 'blank screen' actually means 'blank and lock screen'
[12:44] <shans_home> but it works!
[12:44] <shans_home> thanks :)
[12:45] <snowblink> Nothing_about, in your terminal: cd ~/Desktop
[12:45] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:45] <vito_corleone> asabil: hey how is hte beta version of edgy???
 ok so i go to terminal in apps
[12:45] <snowblink> Nothing_about, tar xvzf VMWare*
[12:45] <_hAPPY_mAJA> Anyone knowing ow to get to know what app using hw:0?
[12:46] <Nothing_about> so in terminal i type cd~/desktop
[12:46] <asabil> vito_corleone, fine, has some bugs, but quite fine
[12:46] <frogzoo> _hAPPY_mAJA: lsof or fuser
[12:46] <snowblink> Nothing_about, case sensitive
[12:46] <Fibbs> hi folks
[12:46] <_hAPPY_mAJA> frogzoo: thanks
[12:46] <vito_corleone> asabil: alright ill try it then...
[12:46] <vito_corleone> asabil: any idea when the final version is gonna come out?
[12:47] <snowblink> Nothing_about, ?
[12:47] <RichardCranium> how do I link my 32 bit libs so I can use them when I run apps?
[12:47] <asabil> 28 oct
[12:47] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:47] <RichardCranium> im trying to run ut2004
[12:47] <snowblink> Nothing_about, have you untarred that file?
 ok well ive done cd ~ /Desktop
[12:47] <Fibbs> i have a problem: did install postfix and copied over my old configs, but too much because the postfix-scripts where not compatible. I now want to uninstall all postfix stuff and create all /etc/postfix files another time by installing postfix (standard files), how to do this?
[12:47] <Nothing_about> could i just right click and extract here ?
[12:47] <snowblink> Nothing_about, tar xvzf VMWare*
 could i just right clikc and extract here ?
[12:48] <zcat[1] > zZzZ - g'night all.. nearly midnight here.
[12:48] <Nothing_about> ok so i type tar xvzf VMware* in terminal
[12:48] <snowblink> Nothing_about, yes
[12:48] <Nothing_about> ok brb
[12:49] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:49] <Nothing_about> well it couldnt open or etract file
[12:49] <Nothing_about> said something about no such directory
[12:49] <Nothing_about> and im in my desktop
[12:49] <snowblink> Nothing_about, did you drag the file to the desktop?
[12:50] <Nothing_about> yes
[12:50] <snowblink> Nothing_about, then the tar.gz file should be there
[12:50] <Nothing_about> its called VMwareTools
[12:50] <_hAPPY_mAJA> frozoo: I cant fins anything. Actually dont understand the what the list is about. I just want to know what program using hw:0, and how i do to terminate it.
[12:50] <_hAPPY_mAJA> Any idea?
[12:50] <snowblink> Nothing_about, reread my instructions from the beginning
[12:50] <Nothing_about> The file you asked to drag was VMwareTools-5.5.2-29772.tar.gz
[12:51] <snowblink> Nothing_about, correct
[12:51] <Nothing_about> ok from the point where i type in cd ~ / Desktop
[12:51] <snowblink> Nothing_about, there should only be one space in that command
[12:52] <Nothing_about> oh
[12:52] <_hAPPY_mAJA>  I want to know what program using hw:0, and how i do to terminate it. Anyone?
[12:52] <Nothing_about> woops
[12:52] <Nothing_about> lol
[12:52] <inzy> hey, can anyone here help with nvidia drivers - I'm getting weird xorg.conf behaviour when i install, no help from the wiki?
[12:52] <Nothing_about> brb
[12:52] <Nothing_about> ok
[12:52] <Nothing_about> now were are getting somewhere
[12:52] <Nothing_about> im in desktop
[12:52] <mike_stern> how can i get a full updated new fresh source.list
[12:52] <Nothing_about> now type in tar xvzf VMware*
[12:52] <Nothing_about> ?
[12:52] <sHAnAnA> hi ctc
[12:53] <snowblink> Nothing_about, sure
[12:53] <mike_stern> getting always this error!!
[12:53] <mike_stern> root@snoopy:~# sudo apt-get install apache2
[12:53] <mike_stern> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
 Ok its now extracting
[12:54] <Nothing_about> everything
[12:54] <snowblink> Nothing_about, cd vmware-tools-distrib
[12:54] <mike_stern> no info on google!
ok now cd vmware-tools-distrib
[12:55] <jacked> mike_stern: ntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
 done
[12:55] <jacked> woops
 now what ?
[12:55] <kyja> nope, that realy did not fix my problem with ati card :-(
[12:55] <snowblink> Nothing_about, sudo ./vmware-tools.pl
[12:55] <jacked> mike_stern: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:55] <mike_stern> i read that doc!
[12:55] <mike_stern> didnt help :(
[12:56] <snowblink> Nothing_about, sorry, sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[12:56] <jacked> mike_stern: you didn't read it...     http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[12:56] <mike_stern> i added!
[12:56] <mike_stern> didnt work
[12:56] <jacked> mike_stern: added to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:57] <snowblink> mike_stern, have you got the gui updater open?
 so i type in sudo " space "./vmware-install.pl ??
[12:57] <snowblink> Nothing_about, yes
[12:57] <mike_stern> no
[12:57] <mike_stern> i only have console
[12:57] <Nothing_about> ok brb
[12:57] <lara_> hola
[12:57] <lara_> k tal
[12:58] <jacked> mike_stern: do this...   apt-get update
[12:58] <mnepton> !es > lara
[12:58] <jacked> sudo apt-get update
[12:58] <lara_> alguie para blar
[12:58] <snowblink> mike_stern, your error message suggests another process is using dpkg...
 well it comes up as directory not found
[12:58] <mike_stern> wat shall i do?
[12:59] <snowblink> Nothing_about, pwd
 is that bad or whats up ?
[12:59] <jacked> mike_stern: sorry, I must have missed something.  tell me what is happening
[12:59] <jacked> please
[12:59] <snowblink> Nothing_about, tell me the output of pwd
[12:59] <Nothing_about> i type in pwd
[12:59] <Nothing_about> ok brb
 it says /home/darkphat/Desktop/vmware-tools-distrib
[01:00] <jacked> mike_stern: do you get an error message when you type 'sudo apt-get update'?
[01:00] <mike_stern> yea
[01:01] <snowblink> Nothing_about, sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[01:01] <mike_stern> anyways i will try to solve alone dont want to waste your time
[01:01] <asabil> anyone willing to make a .deb ?
 ok ill go try again
[01:01] <jacked> can you tell me what the error is?  (if it is long, use pastebin.ca)
[01:01] <jacked> mike_stern: it's okay, I don't mind.
 ok well it says command not found ?
 ive typed in sudo ./vmware-tools.pl
[01:03] <snowblink> Nothing_about, sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[01:03] <snowblink> mike_stern, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update
 ok i need to ask where should i put the dot ./vmware-tools.pl
[01:03] <mike_stern> clean?
[01:03] <RichardCranium> ./ut2004-bin-linux-amd64: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:03] <RichardCranium> any clue anyone?
 should i press space between dot and sudo ?
[01:04] <jacked> mike_stern: 'apt-get install -f'  <-- you may try that
[01:04] <mnepton> RichardCranium:s sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:04] <snowblink> Nothing_about, vmware-install.pl not vmware-tools.pl
[01:04] <RichardCranium> I sure hope that works
[01:04] <Nothing_about> lol
 OMG
[01:04] <Nothing_about> woops
 im such a newbie
 brb
[01:05] <mike_stern> working!
[01:05] <RichardCranium> mnepton, do i need to log out or anything
[01:05] <jacked> mike_stern: :)
[01:05] <mnepton> RichardCranium: shouldn;t need to, no
[01:05] <mike_stern> thank you guys
[01:05] <RichardCranium> hmph mnepton I dont think that installed the file I need
[01:06] <mnepton> RichardCranium: sudo updatedb && locate libstdc++
[01:06] <mike_stern> ok 1 more question
[01:06] <RichardCranium> mnepton, it only shows up in my /usr/lib32
[01:06] <mike_stern> i need to read log files of users requestiong pages from apache
[01:06] <mike_stern> where is that file?
[01:06] <snowblink> mike_stern, /var/log/apache2
[01:06] <mnepton> mike_stern: /var/log
[01:06] <RichardCranium> mnepton, the so.5 version is only in lib32
[01:07] <mike_stern> great
[01:07] <RichardCranium> mnepton, if i try to install the old version it wants to install gcc 3.3
 hey
 i know what the problem is that the command aint working
[01:09] <Nothing_about> the wmare-tool.pl file you have is called within the file i have
 vmware-install.pl
[01:09] <snowblink> poningru, heh - give the newbie a break
[01:10] <Nothing_about> hey which directory do i want to install the binary files ?
[01:10] <Crissi> frogzoo: http://paste.debian.net/14965
[/usr/bin]  ?
[01:11] <snowblink> Nothing_about, accept the defaults
[01:11] <Nothing_about> so just press enter
[01:12] <snowblink> Nothing_about, sure
 what is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6d/) ? [/etc] 
[01:13] <Crissi> why the package quality of ubuntu is soo bad? Yes, its dapper.
 what should i do ??
[01:13] <snowblink> Nothing_about, Accept the defaults
[01:13] <frogzoo> Crissi: fprintf bombs because clock_gettime returned null, dunno  why
[01:13] <Crissi> frogzoo: on debian it has worked
[01:13] <constricted> whats the command line to change the permissions for a folder?
[01:14] <Crissi> this should never happen on stable
[01:14] <constricted> i cant change in the gui cause it says im not the owner (root)
[01:14] <Crissi> its a fresh dapper install
[01:14] <Crissi> 2 days old
 ok so far ive just pressed enter
 now its asking In which directory do you want to install the doc files ?
[01:14] <Crissi> i think i sholuld kick ubuntu because i got a lot of troubles
[01:14] <jacked> constricted: sudo chmod <permissions> -R <folder>
[01:15] <snowblink> Nothing_about, hmm.... keep pressing enter until you get an error
[01:15] <jacked> constricted: if you give me the permissions you want to set and the folder I'll give you something more complete
[01:15] <Crissi> the ubuntu ppl really should do quality management
 OK NOW installation of vmware tools 5.5.2 build -29772 for linux completed successfully
 cd icon isgone
[01:15] <jacked> constricted: err... the line I gave you above will change the files inside the folder too
 says before running vmware tools for the first time
[01:15] <snowblink> Nothing_about, good. Restart your Ubuntu VM.
[01:16] <Crissi> remember the cups desaster. i had seen that before dapper was released but nobody has fixed it before release
[01:16] <constricted> thanks, and if i wanted user whyso to  be able to sudo chmod whyso -R /media/sda1
 i need to configuyr it by invoking the following command :"/usr/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl" do you want this program to invoke the command for you now [yes]  ?????
[01:16] <snowblink> Nothing_about, ah yes that bit
[01:16] <snowblink> Nothing_about, before you do that
[01:17] <jacked> constricted: if you want to change the owner (only do this in your /home/<your login name> directory), you may want to use chown...
 yeh what do i do its asking for a yes or i dont know ??
[01:17] <Crissi> so i cant recommend ubuntu
[01:17] <Crissi> its too bad.
[01:17] <snowblink> Nothing_about, say no
[01:17] <Nothing_about> ok
[01:17] <constricted> ok
[01:17] <Nothing_about> just type no
[01:17] <snowblink> Nothing_about, sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[01:17] <Nothing_about> and press enter
[01:17] <mnepton> Crissi: what "CUPS disaster?"
[01:17] <Crissi> mnepton: you dont know it??????
 ok type no and press enter ?
[01:18] <snowblink> Nothing_about, yes
[01:18] <mnepton> Crissi: yes, i do. i just really like typing the words "what CUPS disaster."
[01:18] <snowblink> Nothing_about, You should be back on command line
[01:18] <jacked> lol
[01:18] <snowblink> Nothing_about, have to make sure you have the headers installed before continuing
 yeh back to cmd line
[01:18] <snowblink> Nothing_about, sudo apt-get install linux-headers
ok brb need to type command
[01:19] <hypn0> hello, anyone installed yahoo messenger? do yahoo deb/s exist? is webcam feature available?
[01:20] <jacked> hypn0: use gaim (no webcam though)
[01:20] <mnepton> hypn0: GAIM
 ok done something
[01:20] <Crissi> mnepton: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/418?from=20
[01:20] <Nothing_about> linux heads came up
[01:20] <boink> hypn0: you can use GAIM
[01:20] <boink> and yahoo does have debian .debs for its messenger
[01:20] <Crissi> hypn0: sim
 now its says You should explicity select one to install
[01:20] <Crissi> or kopete
[01:20] <Crissi> but i recommemd sim
 E: Package linux heads has no installation candidate
[01:20] <boink> is sim better than gaim?
[01:20] <Crissi> yes
[01:20] <Crissi> i think
 and its back to command line
[01:20] <Crissi> www.sim-im.org
[01:21] <boink> gaim is just the best know
[01:21] <Crissi> no
[01:21] <constricted> hmmmm chown whyso /tmp/disks-conf-sdc1 isnt working :(
[01:21] <Crissi> sim is better... if you have tried you will know what i mean
 So which linx header is the right now to install and how ?
[01:22] <jacked> constricted: you'll have to put 'sudo' before that
[01:22] <snowblink> Nothing_about, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential
[01:22] <constricted> oh ok thanks
[01:22] <jacked> constricted: np
 and what will that do ?
[01:22] <snowblink> Nothing_about, install your headers and build tools necessary for the next part
 ok brb need to type code
[01:24] <constricted> still not working, chown report successful, but owner still root
[01:24] <Crissi> here is your bug: http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20060430.181654.76d091a9.en.html
[01:24] <Crissi> so bad....
[01:24] <constricted> whyso@Andrew:~$ sudo chown whyso /tmp/disks-conf-sdc1
[01:24] <constricted> chown: changing ownership of `/tmp/disks-conf-sdc1': Read-only file system
 ok well it had Reading package lists . Done
[01:25] <jacked> constricted: oh, didn't I suggest that you shouldn't use chown outside of your home directory?
 Building dependency tree . Done
 but E: Couldnt find package linux headrs -uname -r
[01:26] <constricted> oops didnt see that :( did i just mess something up?
[01:26] <jacked> constricted: copy the file to your home dir first, or use sudo before writing the file
[01:26] <snowblink> Nothing_about, sorry cannot help you more - have to get back to work. Remember to type stuff exactly as people tell you to...
[01:26] <Nothing_about> so
[01:26] <Nothing_about> whats up
[01:27] <jacked> constricted: no, it'll be fine
[01:27] <Nothing_about> im going to mess things up
[01:27] <Nothing_about> if i restart comp
[01:27] <snowblink> Nothing_about, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server?from=10&comments_per_page=10
 thank you for the link
[01:28] <snowblink> Nothing_about, should be pretty straightforward. Good luck!
 thnxz for the help
[01:28] <Nothing_about> well at least i know vmware tools are installed
[01:28] <snowblink> Nothing_about, np
[01:28] <dbglt> how stable is the new edgy better? Good enough just for a home user?
[01:28] <Nothing_about> i just have to restart dont i
[01:28] <Nothing_about> after i install right headers
[01:28] <Nothing_about> OH one question what are linux headers anyways ?
[01:29] <timhaughton> Is Edgy still pencilled in for release this month?
[01:29] <jacked> dbglt: it's pretty good. depends on how time-critical your personal computing is (mostly).
[01:29] <dbglt> what does that mean?
[01:29] <jacked> timhaughton: yes
[01:31] <timhaughton> jacked: Groovy. Thanks
[01:31] <jacked> dbglt: it means that it isn't recommended for install if you're not prepared for something to go wrong.  but I'll tell you, my personal experience is that I haven't seen a lot of problems lately (i've been running edgy for 2 months)
[01:34] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I have no experience with vmware player and was wondering how I would install win 2000/xp with this.  I have both cds
[01:34] <constricted> hmmmm i cant figure out how to access this removeable ntfs HD still :(
[01:35] <silent_scream> you have to install vmware workstation
[01:35] <silent_scream> Paddy_EIRE,
[01:35] <aixing> Paddy_EIRE: you cant do it with just the player
[01:35] <silent_scream> it's easier
[01:36] <aixing> Paddy_EIRE: You need the workstation, like silent says or you can go for the free server version
[01:36] <jacked> constricted: are you able to mount it?
[01:36] <constricted> yup
[01:36] <dbglt> you can install an image
[01:36] <dbglt> it is just harder
[01:36] <constricted> all mounted up
[01:36] <dbglt> have a search around for how to do it
[01:37] <jacked> constricted: what is the mount point?
[01:37] <constricted>  /media/sdc1
[01:38] <Paddy_EIRE> vmware workstation will this cost me
[01:38] <jacked> constricted: sudo ls /media/sdc1
[01:38] <jacked> does that return anything?
[01:38] <constricted> yup works
[01:38] <constricted> i just need to copy stuff over to ubuntu now
[01:38] <huangzuobin> hey,there are some words missing in my irc,how to do that?using xchat
[01:39] <constricted> whats comand line for that?
[01:39] <jacked> sudo nautilus /media/sdc1
[01:39] <constricted> sweet!!!! i kept leaving out natilus hehe
[01:39] <constricted> ty so much
[01:39] <jacked> (or nautilus /media/sdc1 if it will let you)
[01:40] <Paddy_EIRE> aixing: im not looking to run a server will the workstation cost me
[01:40] <constricted> nope, thats what kept not working (they should have a open as sudo option)
[01:40] <gnomefreak> gksudo should be used for gui apps
[01:41] <jacked> constricted: you can install it as a 'nautilus-script'
[01:41] <jacked> gnomefreak: true
[01:41] <aixing> Paddy_EIRE: yes it will... the server actually does the same thing.. except you are missing 1 or two things, but have the ability to run it as a service [speaking windows now] 
[01:41] <Paddy_EIRE> !script
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about script - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <jeanre> hey all
[01:42] <Paddy_EIRE> aixing: are the 1 or 2 things that are missing something that will be missed
[01:44] <chrishoeppner> Hi
[01:44] <aixing> Paddy_EIRE: I can't remember 1 of them, but the other is USB support
[01:44] <chrishoeppner> anyone know how I can check for compile options withing a deb package? I mean... if I install binary package X, how do I know which compile options have been used?
[01:45] <Paddy_EIRE> aixing: is there a free free way of getting any other os running as a virtual machine in linux?
[01:45] <aixing> Paddy_EIRE: my advice is that you try it and see, its free so nothing to lose. if you find that you need the stuff missing then buy the workstation version
[01:46] <Paddy_EIRE> i suppose
[01:46] <aixing> there is XEN
[01:46] <Paddy_EIRE> no open source alternative then
[01:46] <aixing> but i have not used it, and not sure how well it works with windows
[01:46] <Paddy_EIRE> trying to keep commercial software in the past
[01:47] <aixing> there are loads of alternatives, but XEN is the main one that gets mentioned along side vmware and virtual PC
[01:47] <jacked> Paddy_EIRE: would QEMU not be considered a VM?
[01:47] <Paddy_EIRE> except for windows os, which I already paid for just dont wanna waste money
[01:47] <aixing> yes that's another one
[01:47] <jacked> Paddy_EIRE: or just not free free
[01:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !qemu
[01:47] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:47] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one :)
[01:48] <Paddy_EIRE> !xen
[01:48] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[01:48] <aixing> i would go with the free version of vmware or xen
[01:48] <aixing> [but that's me]  :>
[01:48] <jacked> Paddy_EIRE: ignorant question, sorry, but what is the difference between an emulator and a VM?
[01:49] <easytiger> how do i delete *everything* from evolution.. its keeping stuff i want to remove
[01:49] <Paddy_EIRE> i have no idea
[01:49] <ShaunES> Anyone have any suggestions on how to limit users to a pre-set number of commands?
[01:49] <k3nobi> hi, who can I setup write permissions for my external usbdisk?
[01:49] <easytiger> a Vm might do more than pretend to just be another machine
[01:49] <ShaunES> IE, only allow nano, ls, cd, cp, mv, irssi, rm and chroot them to a different place?
[01:49] <Paddy_EIRE> well a confusing idea anyway
[01:49] <RichardCranium> if I could do xen + winxp 64 id do it
[01:50] <jacked> Paddy_EIRE: is there a difference in function?
[01:50] <Paddy_EIRE> i would say so
[01:50] <aixing> ShaunES: I am no way near an expert [yet] , but my guess would be to change the default PATHS that users get whan the logon
[01:50] <ShaunES> Hrm..
[01:50] <jacked> k3nobi: what file system does is use?
[01:51] <aixing> also, maybe creating a new PATH, and putting the commands [programs]  you want them to be able to use in that PATH
[01:51] <timhaughton> Anyone know if the enctypted partition option made its way into the Edgy installer?
[01:51] <Yaakov> An emulator pretends to be something it isn't (e.g.: x86 on PowerPC); a VM is a way of providing access to what appears to be a "machine", and it might run an emulator or an OS.
[01:51] <k3nobi> jacked: ext3
[01:51] <aixing> and then of cos make that their default PATHS
[01:51] <k3nobi> jacked: it's read only for the users
[01:51] <RichardCranium> the amd64 unreal runs great on ubuntu amd64-generic
[01:52] <RichardCranium> happy to report
[01:52] <Yaakov> So, VirtualPC running under OS X provides both VMs AND an x86 emulator to host OSs that need x86.
[01:52] <jacked> k3nobi: sudo chmod a+rw -R /path/to/device
[01:52] <aixing> Yaakov: yes, i believe so
[01:52] <jeanre> Ubuntu 4.0.3 is dapper?
[01:52] <boink> jeanre: no
[01:52] <RichardCranium> 6.06 is dapper
[01:52] <boink> dapper is 6.06
[01:52] <Yaakov> On the other hand, a VM running on an x86 processor and hosting an x86 OS needn't emulate anything.
[01:53] <boink> !dapper
[01:53] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[01:53] <jeanre> hmmmm
[01:53] <Ropechoborra> Isnt that hoary?
[01:53] <jeanre> what is that then?
[01:53] <boink> sounds ancient
[01:53] <Ropechoborra> or warty
[01:53] <boink> !hoary
[01:53] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[01:53] <boink> !warty
[01:53] <ubotu> warty was the first release of Ubuntu. Version 4.10, codename "Warty Warthog"
[01:53] <jeanre> its xubuntu actually
[01:53] <RichardCranium> Yaakov, can one do windows and linux simultaneously with xen
[01:53] <boink> jeanre: in any case, it's ancient
[01:53] <Ropechoborra> 5.04 is hoary
[01:53] <jeanre> can one upgrade without breaking anything
[01:54] <boink> by updating your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:54] <Ropechoborra> I guess is warty :P
[01:54] <jeanre> boink: for xubuntu?
[01:54] <Paddy_EIRE> jeanre:  i would think so, although backup
[01:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !backup
[01:54] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[01:54] <jeanre> I know I can edit that to update
[01:54] <boink> sure, xubuntu works just like ubuntu/kubuntu
[01:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !upgrade
[01:54] <brush01uk> Greetings Everyone, have a good day .......
[01:54] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:54] <jeanre> but I would not know what to change
[01:54] <boink> by updating your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:54] <constricted> how do i change permissions to write for folder /home/whyso/Desktop for user whyso
[01:54] <aixing> RichardCranium: If you mean can one have more than 2 guest OS on the same system one running linux and the other windows... then YES
[01:54] <Yaakov> RichardCranium: Yes.  As with any VM provider, such as QEMU.
[01:55] <RichardCranium> wow! how do I switch between os's?
[01:55] <Ropechoborra> !upgrade > jeanre
[01:55] <Yaakov> Though that is not as "pure" an option as Xen, I believe.
[01:55] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium: win will be in a window
[01:55] <RichardCranium> i have virtualiztion support in the CPU
[01:55] <Yaakov> RichardCranium: They run in windows.
[01:55] <RichardCranium> paddy how about 3d apps?
[01:56] <RichardCranium> this is sounding fantastic if I can run games
[01:56] <Yaakov> Xen, though, requires PORTED VERSIONS of the OS.
[01:56] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium: will work the same except remember you are running 2 os's so performance will be slower
[01:56] <jacked> constricted: sudo chown whyso:whyso (assuming that's your group name) /home/whyso/Desktop
[01:56] <RichardCranium> ell ive got dual core
[01:56] <Yaakov> RichardCranium: Whereas QEMU doesn't.
[01:56] <aixing> alright peeps, i am off for now cya
[01:56] <Paddy_EIRE> RichardCranium: well that would be you sorted
[01:56] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[01:56] <jeanre> question can I go straight to edgy?
[01:56] <Yaakov> RichardCranium: Right now I think Windows support in Xen is experimental.
[01:56] <jacked> constricted: sudo chmod o+w -R /home/whyso/Desktop
[01:57] <RichardCranium> Yaakov, experimental = poop
[01:57] <boink> I've never done such an update, jeanre .. from warty to dapper
[01:57] <boink> you could take it one step at a time
[01:57] <RichardCranium> ok all im outtie for a bit, props for doing what gentoo cant yet
[01:57] <Yaakov> RichardCranium: QEMU also offers CPU emulators, like ARM and SPARC.
[01:57] <J_P> hi all
[01:58] <jacked> jeanre: it seems to me that an upgrade like that isn't supported
[01:58] <jacked> jeanre: I'm quite sure I remember reading that
[01:58] <poningru> how long does prelink take?
[01:58] <k3nobi> jacked: no that wont help, the problem is on the mount level, not on the node level
[01:58] <boink> so, upgrade to the next release
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> !warty
[01:58] <ubotu> warty was the first release of Ubuntu. Version 4.10, codename "Warty Warthog"
[01:58] <k3nobi> jacked: the nodes are created dynamically everytime you plug in the ubs device
[01:58] <boink> that would by hoary. that should work fine
[01:58] <boink> !hoary
[01:58] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[01:59] <constricted> chmod  isnt doing anything :(
[01:59] <constricted> ty for help again tho :)
[02:00] <Paddy_EIRE> !chmod
[02:00] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:01] <Paddy_EIRE> !cake
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <jacked> k3nobi: okay.  well.  umount the device
[02:01] <jacked> k3nobi: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/<device>
[02:02] <jacked> k3nobi: then you should be able to reach everything as root
[02:02] <jacked> errr...
[02:02] <jacked> k3nobi: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/<device> /media/<empty folder>
[02:03] <Rur0un1> help us obi , lol
[02:03] <rubso> hey guys, please i need help :(
[02:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask
[02:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:03] <Rur0un1> what's up rubso
[02:03] <rubso> after updating my system, my X Windows won't start and my Atheroes Wireless card won't start too
[02:03] <rubso> :'(
[02:03] <k3nobi> jacked: yes but this is a one time solution, I'm longing more for a generic solution because I usualy turn on and of my client
[02:04] <k3nobi> rubso: hh
[02:04] <Rur0un1> rubso, when did you make last update ?
[02:04] <rubso> today
[02:04] <k3nobi> I mean: Rur0un1 hh
[02:04] <Rur0un1> rubso, and the one before ?
[02:04] <rubso> there was nothing before!
[02:04] <k3nobi> jacked: i could but it in fstab
[02:04] <easytiger> no evolution users?
[02:04] <Rur0un1> rubso, was this the first time you upgraded your system after the installation ?
[02:05] <k3nobi> would ubuntu like it to edit my fstab?
[02:05] <Rur0un1> easytiger, I do
[02:05] <kandala> Any Thunderbird users here?
[02:05] <rubso> =( no help?
 i can't get rid of "on this computer" mail
[02:05] <easytiger> its an old account i no longer want
[02:05] <easytiger> any dieas
[02:05] <andyshack> evening folks. ive got two ubuntu boxes that firefox is unwilling to work on. everything else works and it seems a bit odd. can anyone point me to the right forum ?
[02:05] <Rur0un1> easytiger, why do you want to get rid of it ?
 its an old account i no longer use
[02:06] <k3nobi> andyshack: what exactly is not working?
[02:06] <jacked> k3nobi: what is the side of the usb storage device?
[02:06] <qwe1> hello, how do I tell the system that I want to open a certain file extension with a special Programm. I am looking for the configuration file.
[02:06] <k3nobi> jacked: the side?
[02:06] <Rur0un1> easytiger, then remove the account
[02:06] <jacked> k3nobi: what is the size of the usb storage device?
[02:06] <andyshack> k3nobi : type in url and nothing loads.
[02:06] <jacked> k3nobi: sorry
[02:06] <Volstrup> qwe1: the system? Is it from Nautilus, the filemanager?
 i did.... but all the mail still remains
[02:06] <k3nobi> jacked: arround 30gb
[02:06] <easytiger> i even deleted the .evolution folder
[02:06] <andyshack> all services are running, apache is even hapiily serving on one of them.
[02:07] <jeanre> ok now there crunch question does xgl work with ati xpress 200m cards? with beryl
[02:07] <qwe1> volstrup: yes in Nautilus
[02:07] <jacked> k3nobi: do you have a lot of data on there?  (what I'm getting at is... can you back it up so that you can format the drive)
[02:07] <k3nobi> jacked: type /tmp in the url bar
[02:07] <k3nobi> usp
[02:07] <k3nobi> andyshack: type /tmp in the url bar
[02:07] <Rur0un1> easytiger, I have never used multiple mailboxes in evolution. But check the folder .evolution in your home folder (it is a hidden directory in deed)
[02:07] <k3nobi> jacked: sorry
[02:08] <Volstrup> qwe1: right-click and select Properties
[02:08] <Rur0un1> easytiger, that you can remove anything manually there
. i did. i deleted it.. but it doesnt remove existing messages.
[02:08] <easytiger> i'll just delete them
[02:08] <qwe1> Volstrup: is there also a configuration file? Because some of the options I would like to delete
[02:08] <andyshack> yeah that works,
[02:09] <andyshack> the fkr seems to be working now, well it said hi to google anyway.
[02:09] <Volstrup> qwe1: probably. Why is it important, if you just select you favorite app?
[02:10] <qwe1> Volstrup: I just tested it. It works fine. I would just like to know where this configuration is stored
[02:10] <Volstrup> qwe1: user settings is saved in ~/.nautilus/
[02:12] <VxD_> bonjour, j'ai un problme sous ubuntu, quand je lances n'importes quel jeu qui as des .jpg, a bug. des fichiers .py que je lances par python fichier.py me fais des messages d'erreurs du genre ne peut pas charger les fichier .jpg
[02:12] <qwe1> Volstrub: ups, lots of xml files in there
[02:12] <nizo> heloo
[02:12] <jacked> k3nobi: sorry for the delay here... um, yeah.  fstab is an option too, although it may or may not be the BEST option
[02:12] <VxD_> oups sorry mistake with the french chan
[02:12] <chrishoeppner> Hi. got a little problem
[02:12] <nizo> what is the best cA
[02:13] <Rico> chrishoeppner: just ask
[02:13] <nizo> what is the best cache internet program in linux ?
[02:13] <andyshack> squid
[02:13] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, !ask
[02:14] <chrishoeppner> accidentally changed owner group to the whole /usr/ directory recursively. Now i can't do sudo or su. it tells me "must be setuid root" whenever i want to su. and as non-root user i can't restore ownership to root:root
[02:14] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, lol
[02:14] <chrishoeppner> Rur0un1, yeah... i know... but how do i solve this, beside live cd and mount my partition?
[02:15] <constricted> ty jacked for all the general help :)
[02:15] <jacked> chrishoeppner: oi!  jeesh
[02:15] <Rico> chrishoeppner: what's wrong with the live cd option?
[02:15] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, I am sure there is a better option
[02:15] <Rur0un1> I don't get why you can't sudo
[02:15] <jacked> constricted: np, killin' time before studying
[02:15] <jacked> :P
[02:15] <k3nobi> chrishoeppner: backup your home dir and reinstall the system
[02:15] <chrishoeppner> Rico, i can't find it right now *lol. any idea?
[02:15] <chrishoeppner> k31th, are you kidding?
[02:16] <nizo> okay
[02:16] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, search the error in google
[02:16] <nizo> what is the best configration for squid
[02:16] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, also search how to enable su (not sudo) in google
[02:16] <nizo> i have ubuntu 6 server
[02:16] <Rur0un1> for ubuntu of course
[02:16] <k3nobi> chrishoeppner: you wont be able to restore the prober permission because there are different groups in /usr. no everything is root:root
[02:16] <k3nobi> e.g. games
[02:17] <jacked> chrishoeppner: when you type ls -l /usr what do you see?
[02:17] <easytiger> why can't you sudo?
[02:17] <Rur0un1> k3nobi, he can give everything 777, so data will be safe
[02:17] <chrishoeppner> root : users
[02:17] <asabil> anyone good at making .deb packages ?
[02:17] <k3nobi> Rur0un1: you call that save?
[02:17] <chrishoeppner> easytiger, changed permission on /usr/sbin accidentally
[02:17] <Rur0un1> k3nobi, better than reinstalling I suppose
[02:18] <fredl> argh PNG's and older explorer versions are driving me nuts
[02:18] <k3nobi> Rur0un1: why?`you can reinstall in 20 min.
[02:18] <nizo> what is the best configration for squid cache ?
[02:18] <rubso> GOD DAMN IT, SOMEBODY HELP, MY SYSTEM IS DEAD !
 i bet you won't mess around as root again
[02:18] <k3nobi> Rur0un1: and with a /use recursively 777 you have saftey as windows
[02:18] <chrishoeppner> easytiger, be sure.
[02:18] <Rico> chrishoeppner: if you're in the users group, can't you chgrp it back?
[02:18] <Rur0un1> k3nobi, no, configuring and tweaking the system, flash and so on even if you use auotmatix, will take at least a day
[02:18] <k3nobi> easytiger: lol
[02:19] <Rur0un1> k3nobi, I don't mean security, I said data will be safe
[02:19] <Rur0un1> as well as the programs will be runnable again
[02:19] <k3nobi> Rur0un1: ah I see
[02:19] <starsyang> ?
[02:19] <chrishoeppner> oh hell...
[02:19] <starsyang> hello, everyone
[02:20] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, don't call that, if you write rm -R / at the top of the FS, there will be no cure
[02:20] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, besides I still did not get why you can't sudo
[02:20] <chrishoeppner> wan't a dump?
[02:20] <k3nobi> chrishoeppner: there is a saying in my country: the one that does not listen (and makes something stupid) must feel (the pain)
[02:21] <chrishoeppner> k3nobi, spanish?
[02:21] <Rur0un1> I don't need a dump. just tell me why cant you sudo
[02:21] <easytiger> not a great saying is it
[02:21] <chrishoeppner> "must be setuid root" is all i get
[02:21] <starsyang> JOIN<channel>
[02:21] <Rur0un1> or investigate it yourself
[02:21] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, investigate why you get this ?
[02:22] <k3nobi> easytiger: I think there are lots of other sayings aprobriate in this case
[02:22] <k3nobi> appropriatre
[02:22] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, I think you make sudo itself unaccessible
[02:22] <easytiger> like "you can't handle the root"
[02:22] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, since it relies on /usr/bin/sudo
[02:23] <easytiger> i think he is aware of that
[02:23] <nizo> sex
[02:23] <Rur0un1> sorry I lately figured it out
[02:23] <Rur0un1> hehe
[02:23] <chrishoeppner> it's actually what i first said, Rur0un1
[02:23] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, no , you only said you can't run sudo. not the reason
[02:23] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, anyway
[02:23] <jacked> chrishoeppner: can you do this   adduser root users
[02:24] <chrishoeppner> no permission
[02:24] <Rico> the files are owned by root though
[02:24] <easytiger> time to wack out a live cd dude
[02:24] <jacked> sudo adduser root users   (doesn't work either?)
[02:24] <Rico> HE CAN'T SUDO
[02:24] <chrishoeppner> yeah but the group isn't correct
[02:25] <easytiger> lol
[02:25] <RadiantFire> root already exists
[02:25] <jacked> Rico: yeah, got it bud.
[02:25] <RadiantFire> anyway
[02:25] <RadiantFire> boot into single user mode
[02:25] <RadiantFire> you get left at a root prompt
[02:25] <Rur0un1> chrishoeppner, I think you are out of luck
[02:26] <Rico> RadiantFire: that uses sulogin. if sudo doesn't run perhaps sulogin won't either?
[02:26] <RadiantFire> it will
[02:26] <Rico> problem solved then...
[02:26] <chrishoeppner> RadiantFire, and how do i get into single user mode?
[02:27] <RadiantFire> its a grub boot option
[02:27] <RadiantFire> its the "Rescue Mode"
[02:27] <RadiantFire> or in Edgy they changed it to "Single User Mode"
[02:27] <Rico> assuming he has it 
[02:27] <RadiantFire> its a default thing
[02:27] <chrishoeppner> RadiantFire, and how do i get into that? live cd? or via grub?
[02:27] <RadiantFire> each kernel comes with a regular and the emergency mode
[02:27] <RadiantFire> grub
[02:28] <Rico> ah it's called recovery mode
[02:28] <Rico> aka the 'single' kernel option
[02:28] <Rur0un1> Edgy rocks by the way
[02:28] <klarkin> hi there
[02:28] <klarkin> just a quick question i hope
[02:28] <chrishoeppner> RadiantFire, you're the man. i'll then restore ownership to root:root. this should fix it, don't it?
[02:28] <klarkin> :)
[02:28] <Rur0un1> klarkin, !ask
[02:28] <RadiantFire> i don't know
[02:29] <Rico> chrishoeppner: chmod it 755 to be safe...
[02:29] <klarkin> spellcheck in openoffice2
[02:29] <RadiantFire> i would think os
[02:29] <klarkin> = not spellchecking
[02:29] <chrishoeppner> RadiantFire, thank you lots. i'm off to try.
[02:29] <vivi_> hi everybodi
[02:29] <klarkin> hi
[02:30] <vivi_> how are they today?
[02:31] <vivi_> how are you klarkin?
[02:31] <klarkin> a bit miffed i cannot get the spellcheck in openoffice2 to work
[02:32] <klarkin> and you vivi_? how are you
[02:32] <vivi_> i find , thank you
[02:34] <Foc> vivi_ replace "find" with "fine" ;)
[02:34] <vivi_> .....
[02:34] <klarkin> :)
[02:34] <Poromenos> Hi, I'm trying to create another user with useradd but that user can see the files of all users in the /home/ dir
[02:35] <Poromenos> any way to avoid that?
[02:35] <vivi_> I don't speak english!
[02:35] <vivi_> :D
[02:35] <klarkin> me either
[02:36] <klarkin> and i am from england
[02:36] <klarkin> :P
[02:36] <vivi_> hihi:D
[02:36] <Rico> Poromenos: chmod other home directories to something like 700
[02:36] <Rico> Poromenos: in particular, the execute bit for a directory determines if other users can cd into it
[02:36] <vivi_> you are boy or gilr?
[02:37] <jacked> klarkin: have you tried going to File -> Wizards -> Install New Dictionaries?
[02:37] <Poromenos> Rico: Hmm, okay. This might cause problems with my apache and stuff though, I'll see, thanks :)
[02:37] <Rico> Poromenos: chgrp all your home files into a group that this new user is not part of
[02:37] <vivi_> are you boy or girl klarkin?
[02:37] <Rico> Poromenos: then add your apache user to that group
[02:37] <Poromenos> Rico: Ah, okay, thanks :)
[02:38] <KenSentMe> !offtopic > vivi_
[02:38] <TLE> I'm trying to do some statistics on how well the official drivers from ATI and NVIDIA work for everybody. So I've started this poll on the subject: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278352 Please consider voting.!
[02:40] <klarkin> jacked: yup just done that now and works fine - cheers
[02:40] <Poromenos> Rico: where can i learn more about groups? i am having some trouble
[02:40] <vivi_> I sorry, but I'm off, because I going to learn
[02:40] <klarkin> ciao vivi_
[02:40] <vivi_> hi
[02:41] <mm2000> Hi, how can i updrage my "locale" to more countries?
[02:41] <klarkin> okee off also
[02:41] <klarkin> ltrz
[02:41] <fyrestrtr> !locales
[02:41] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[02:42] <Poromenos> !groups
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <Poromenos> :(
[02:42] <Rico> Poromenos: addgroup <group>, adduser <user> <group>
[02:42] <Rico> type 'id' to see what groups you're currently in
[02:42] <Rico> 'groups' would also work
[02:42] <Poromenos> aha, hmm
[02:42] <hid3>  I've compiled my kernel with raid(1) support. I've set up raid1 in my raid bios. When my machine boots up, I can see in dmesg: raid1 personality registered for level1. What should be my next step to start using the disk array?
[02:42] <darek> hi
[02:42] <Poromenos> why is the new user able to see my files, though?
[02:43] <darek> know someone whats the problem? -> http://wklej.org/id/4dbbd2f4a9
[02:43] <Rico> do you have them marked as world-writable?
[02:43] <Rico> erm, world-readable
[02:43] <Poromenos> no, world-read and execute, though
[02:43] <Poromenos> yes
[02:43] <Rico> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[02:43] <Poromenos> i think they were like that by default?
[02:44] <Rico> Poromenos: chmod o-r filename
[02:44] <Poromenos> i did 0750, is that the same?
[02:44] <mm2000> fyrestrtr: thanks, but i need to install all locales.
[02:44] <Rico> you can leave out the 0
[02:44] <mm2000> any idea how to do?
[02:44] <Poromenos> ah, okay
[02:44] <Rico> otherwise that's correct, 750 = rwxrw----
[02:45] <Poromenos> rwxr-x---, actually
[02:45] <Rico> dammit, yeah
[02:45] <Rico> basically you have a lot of options
[02:45] <Poromenos> damn, apache stopped working
[02:46] <Rico> Poromenos: find out what user apache is using
[02:46] <Poromenos> Rico: How do I do that/
[02:46] <Poromenos> groups apache?
[02:46] <Rico> By default it uses the user 'www-data' and group 'www-data'
[02:46] <Poromenos> ah
[02:46] <Somebody_> hey!
[02:47] <Poromenos> that's it
[02:47] <Poromenos> do I add it to the "poromenos" group?
[02:47] <psyoptik> I'm trying to compile a program from source and I am getting this error when using ./configure: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables." I just installed a new version of my c compiler. Any iideas?
[02:47] <Rico> adduser www-data poromenos
[02:47] <Poromenos> hmm, still nothing
[02:47] <Poromenos> forbidden
[02:47] <Poromenos> that is odd
[02:48] <Poromenos> do i need to reload?
[02:48] <Rico> are your files under the poromenos group?
[02:48] <Poromenos> that's what ls-l shows
[02:48] <Poromenos> ls -l
[02:48] <Poromenos> oh wait
[02:48] <Rico> restart apache2?
[02:48] <Poromenos> yeah, that group
[02:48] <Poromenos> sec
[02:49] <Poromenos> ok, it works now, thanks a lot :)
[02:49] <manmadha> Is it possible to set our ip as unkown?
[02:49] <Poromenos> by the way, which digit is now apache in the chmod perms?
[02:49] <Poromenos> what are the digits? owner, group, world?
[02:50] <rsl> Isn't there a log for what's been updated via apt-get or synaptic?
[02:50] <tacho> hi, can someone recommend a small graphics editor for ubuntu. Something smaller than GIMP, only as much functionality as mspaint.
[02:51] <lolkaare> Anyone got a guide for installing mpd? On ubuntuforums.org, it requires a download which is not there anymore..
[02:52] <tacho> i guess that's a big 'no'
[02:52] <defrysk> tacho, xpaint
[02:52] <kanotix> hi guys
[02:52] <tacho> defrysk, thanks
[02:52] <kanotix> grub us giving me error 18 after using automatix :(   how do i fix grub?
[02:52] <kanotix> urff
[02:52] <kanotix> sorry
[02:53] <defrysk> kanotix, stop using automatix
[02:53] <defrysk> and go to #automatix for help
[02:54] <arkygeek> it wasnt automatix they say.  is there a grub repair option on the livecd?
[02:54] <defrysk> arkygeek, they say it wasnt we say it was
[02:54] <Wazm> sup?
[02:54] <defrysk> arkygeek, also automatix is not supported by ubuntu
[02:55] <arkygeek> well this is a grub issue now, which is needing fixing with ubuntu livecd.
[02:55] <defrysk> good luck
[03:01] <darek> http://wklej.org/id/4dbbd2f4a9 :>
[03:03] <luis_lopez> hi, somebody knows who's the contact for certification related stuff @ canonical?
[03:09] <Dario> mornin'
[03:09] <_rodney> checking MOZ_GTK2_LIBS...   -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lfontconfig -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXext -lXcursor -lXfixes -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lXrender -lX11 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required
[03:10] <_rodney> anyone know how to compile latest firefox , i get this error :  ^^^ sorry about that
[03:10] <Dario> quick question: do i need the three ISOs? or can i live with just the desktop one
[03:10] <mjr> just the one
[03:10] <Willster> just one is fine, you can always download extra packages easily through apt-get
[03:11] <defrysk> _rodney, in dapper ?
[03:11] <_rodney> yep ;)
[03:11] <_rodney> no breezy sorry :(
[03:11] <defrysk> _rodney, 2x version ?
[03:11] <Dario> Willster: sweet. thanks!
[03:11] <Somebody_> quick question too: how can I update gnome to 2.16 without edgy?
[03:11] <_rodney> hmm how do i check the ubuntu version again ?
[03:11] <Dario> I'll let it d/l and try it out with my old laptop later. thanks guys.
[03:12] <Willster> Dario: enjoy :)
[03:12] <defrysk> cat /etc/issue
[03:12] <_rodney> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l  --ah thanks ;)
[03:13] <defrysk> _rodney, getting the latest in firefox in dapper compiled and all is hart to do
[03:13] <defrysk> hard
[03:13] <_rodney> how come, what do i need ?
[03:13] <defrysk> _rodney, beter get the binaries for a local install or upgrade to edgy
[03:13] <wick2o> good morning
[03:13] <whyme> hi all,
[03:13] <_rodney> hey
[03:13] <whyme> does anyone know about ppc's?
[03:13] <wick2o> anyone able to get ubunut to see harddrives connected to a sas raid?
[03:14] <Poromenos> Hi, I have created a symlink as root but the user can't follow it, why is that?
[03:14] <whyme> got a powermac 7200/75...
[03:14] <wick2o> Dell SAS 5/ir Adapter to be exact
[03:14] <whyme> is that good enough?
[03:16] <moridin> anyone can tell me how to configure mpd?
[03:16] <tj_> hey, i've got a toshiba laptop, and it seems that i cant partition, or format his HD, do you have any ideas?
[03:17] <Poromenos> how can I make it so that a user can follow a symlink i made as root?
[03:18] <cyfr> Hi. I want to use icon theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=44539 but when I try and drag the file in to theme manager it says file format is wrong
[03:21] <Zaggynl> Anyone in here knows how to get AvP working?
[03:22] <lurker99> Poromenos: Is the target readable or executable by the user directly?  Normally an 'ln -s' gives a world followable link...
[03:22] <POVaddct> Poromenos: the target of the symlink must be readable by non-root. ownership of the symlink itself is not important for that.
[03:23] <davidT> hi all
[03:23] <Poromenos> ah, thanks, i'll try that
[03:23] <Poromenos> i didn't know if i needed to look at the target or the actual symlink
[03:23] <cyfr> can anyone help me?
[03:24] <winterweaver> hey all =D
[03:25] <winterweaver> can someone tell me how I can determine what my internet ip is (It's for TeamSpeak)
[03:25] <Somebody_> how to update gnome to 2.16?
[03:25] <Poromenos> winterweaver: www.whatismyip.com
[03:26] <winterweaver> O.o
[03:26] <jrib> Somebody_: edgy will have gnome 2.16.  It will be released as stable in a couple of weeks
[03:26] <winterweaver> lol
[03:26] <winterweaver> there is a website for that
[03:26] <Poromenos> winterweaver: there are many :p
[03:26] <Poromenos> www.poromenos.org/ip.php
[03:26] <winterweaver> tx :)
[03:26] <Poromenos> np
[03:27] <Poromenos> still permission denied, and i have chmodded the directory to 0777
[03:27] <Somebody_> then i'll wait,thank you,jrib.
[03:28] <SUSaiyan> Solopher: dsflks
[03:28] <Poromenos> the parent directory is non-world readable, though
[03:29] <Solopher> Ah okey
[03:29] <Solopher> Now we konw
[03:29] <Solopher> now*
[03:29] <Solopher> know
[03:29] <Solopher> pff
[03:29] <Solopher> :D
[03:29] <SUSaiyan> lololololoololol
[03:29] <Solopher> typos in da hoUs3
[03:29] <SUSaiyan> nice
[03:29] <Solopher> '(^_^)'
[03:29] <BlueEagle> !enter
[03:29] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:29] <BlueEagle> :p
[03:31] <wick2o> anyone running ubuntu on a dell poweredge 860??
[03:32] <Poromenos> my symlink appears red to the user's ls, btw
[03:33] <davidT> a quickie one
[03:33] <kmaynard> wick2o, no but i am running on dell hardware
[03:33] <davidT> in theory how much would take a fsck of a 200gb ?
[03:33] <jelly-home> davidT: how may files?
[03:34] <_rodney> Poromenos: check the permissions
[03:34] <jelly-home> many
[03:34] <mjr> depends on file amounts, but I'd guess off the cuff 5-10 min
[03:34] <mjr> just a guess tho
[03:34] <wick2o> kmaynard: mind a private IM?
[03:34] <mnepton> mjr: on a 486/66? ;)
[03:34] <kmaynard> wick2o, im game
[03:34] <_rodney> Poromenos: make sure its readable for users
[03:34] <kmaynard> aim, msn, yahoo, or gtalk? :)
[03:34] <mjr> mnepton, mmh, fsck is not generally cpu-bound, but a 486 will probably have slow buses also...
[03:35] <jelly-home> davidT: how many files?  is it an ext3?  was it mkfs-ed with default options?
[03:35] <davidT> a lot of file and a lot of big ones
[03:35] <davidT> ext3
[03:35] <jelly-home> davidT: by "a lot" do you mean tens of thousands or millions?
[03:35] <davidT> no
[03:35] <davidT> thousands
[03:35] <jelly-home> feh, that's a few.
[03:35] <mjr> that's not a lot :)
[03:36] <darek> what can i do when on ubunu live cd my usb keyboard doesnt work?
[03:36] <davidT> well it is now more than 24 hours
[03:36] <Poromenos> _rodney: permissions are drwxrwxrwx
[03:36] <mjr> davidT, uh oh...
[03:36] <Poromenos> i made a symlink to a directory with ln -s, is that correct
[03:36] <Poromenos> ?
[03:36] <mjr> something rotten in denmark
[03:36] <jelly-home> davidT: that's definitely too much for ext3.
[03:37] <jelly-home> davidT: did fsck report any errors?
[03:37] <davidT> the first time i did with the -a flag
[03:37] <jelly-home> davidT: I'd guess maybe 2-3 hours...
[03:37] <darek> what can i do when on ubunu live cd my usb keyboard doesnt work?
[03:37] <davidT> it did report errors
[03:38] <davidT> ok so something's wrong
[03:39] <davidT> would you stop it ?
[03:39] <jelly-home> davidT: of course pasting the last few screenfuls might help to know if they look like benign errors or not.
[03:41] <brynk> anyone in here using an Epson AL-C1100?
[03:41] <davin> Is it possible to get flash working in Konqueror?
[03:41] <darek> what can i do when on ubunu live cd my usb keyboard doesnt work?
[03:42] <davin> darek: try another one or try ps/2?
[03:42] <ba5e> davin: use firefox!
[03:42] <brynk> smash it on your desk 3 times
[03:42] <darek> davin, ehh i have got only one keyboard...
[03:42] <davin> ba5e: I know it works in firefox but that wasnt my question
[03:42] <davin> darek: mhm does it work out of the live cd?
[03:42] <vbhanu> -NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized
[03:42] <vbhanu> * services. sets mode +e vbhanu
[03:42] <vbhanu> vbhanu I am using firefox, and i access net through a proxy server, I would like to block some sites from being accessed from my system. Please tell me how i could do that.
[03:42] <vbhanu> soweto and nmap reports its open??
[03:43] <vbhanu> tiny I was sshing to the box .. now I'v put my dyndns hostname into hosts.allow and it stoped working
[03:43] <vbhanu> sorry!
[03:43] <vbhanu> I am using firefox, and i access net through a proxy server, I would like to block some sites from being accessed from my system. Please tell me how i could do that.
[03:43] <brynk> konqueror sucks, but flash shouldn't be a problem
[03:43] <darek> davin, yes, on windows xp, on linux i didnt checked
[03:43] <davin> darek: cause if you use ubuntu on your harddrive you might be able to compile your own drivers
[03:43] <davin> darek: but seeing as ubuntu live cd didnt recognize it youre pretty screwed
[03:43] <ba5e> davin http://www.konqueror.org/faq/#WhydoesKonquerorcrashoneverypagewithFlash
[03:44] <darek> daved, ok thx
[03:44] <darek> davin, ok thx *
[03:44] <josh_> whats up people... how do i find out how much space a certain directory is taking up on my drive from a commandline standpoint?
[03:44] <ba5e> davin; maybe this is more helpful http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262789&highlight=flash+Konqueror
[03:45] <ba5e> josh_: good question
[03:45] <disasm> darek: thats odd, i use a usb kbd all the time with ubuntu live cd, you must have a really non-standard keybard
[03:45] <josh_> lol i thought so too :P
[03:45] <darek> disasm, my friend ;] 
[03:45] <ba5e> i use baobab, bu tthat is not li
[03:45] <ba5e> sorry not cli
[03:45] <disasm> darek: you could try tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug/unplug kbd and watch the system messages go by, see if it shows anything
[03:46] <ba5e> josh_: have a look at 'man ls'
[03:46] <davin> ba5e: doesnt that look in the mozilla/firefox folders? I have Kubuntu without firefox..
[03:47] <ba5e> davin not sure
[03:47] <disasm> darek: the driver associated with 99% of usb keyboards is usbhid.ko or usbkbd.ko could try modprobing both of those and seeing if it has any affect
[03:47] <darek> disasm, ok thx
[03:47] <disasm> darek: of course, now that I'm mentioning this, I realize that your keyboard doesn't work, how are you going to type ;-)
[03:48] <winterweaver> I know this is a bit off topic, but does anyone here know anything about adsl routers and opening ports on it (for my TeamSpeak server), or can you direct me to a channel with support for this ?
[03:48] <ba5e> davin do a search in the forums for 'flash Konqueror'
[03:49] <ba5e> winterweaver: go to www.portforwad.com
[03:49] <winterweaver> tx
[03:49] <disasm> winterweaver: all depends on the router, i know a lot of the dsl companies here don't give users the admin info on the dsl modem/router and you need to call the dsl company to get a port forwarded
[03:49] <ba5e> sorry www.portforward.com winterweaver
[03:50] <winterweaver> thx disasm... will keep that in mind
[03:55] <solevita> hi there.
[03:55] <A[D] minS> !mount flash memory
[03:55] <raintheory> hello
[03:55] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB
[03:55] <solevita> anybody online who could help me with getting surround sound with ubuntu??
[03:55] <A[D] minS> !mount
[03:55] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:56] <ba5e> solevita: it depends what sound card you have
[03:57] <solevita> i used to change the sound inputs into outputs with the original sounddriver (that used to be with windows)
[03:57] <raintheory> anyone have any luck with SVIDEO out on nvidia geforce fxgo 5100?
[03:57] <defrysk> surround only works with dvd and stuff , not mp3
[03:58] <A[D] minS> sudo mount /dev/sd1  /media/usb/
[03:58] <A[D] minS> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:58] <defrysk> or is this not about 5.1
[03:58] <Mille> howdy
[03:59] <_Rappy_> Why isn't there an option to use LVM during the installation of dapper, like it was in the previous versions. It annoys me ><
[03:59] <solevita> i know that   but i used to have a program  (as i still had windows) that could change the line in and micro inputs to subwoofer, center and rear outputs
[03:59] <raintheory> i'd love to be able to watch videos on the TV thru SVIDEO...
[03:59] <ba5e> yeah you have to have a discrete 5.1 or 6.1 channel for it to work (ie dvd, AC3 etc)
[04:00] <solevita> so you dont happen to know a program for ubuntu (6.06) that can simply change the ports functions?
[04:01] <SUSaiyan> Solopher: viva
[04:02] <Solopher> Das ist wel schon
[04:02] <Chm0d> hey guys how can i completely delete vmplayer so that I can install the server?
[04:02] <solevita> so nobody in here who knows a program that can change sound inputs into sound outputs?
[04:03] <defrysk> solevita, try alsamixer
[04:03] <Chm0d> sorry solevita i dont know that answer
[04:03] <Mille> after i've created some partitions with gparted, after the reboot, suddenly it can't find any of them. i booted with the live cd and the gparted says there is no partition what so ever, BUT, when I boot with the Windows XP cd the partition manager there displays all of partitions that should be there. Any suggestions on how to solve this?
[04:04] <jrnd> join #ubuntu-libre
[04:05] <highvoltage> ok
[04:05] <solevita> defryk: you think that might work with alsamixer?  its worth a try    thanks for the tip
[04:05] <tfr> Siema
[04:05] <tfr> Ktry to plik od autostartu? ;>
[04:05] <defrysk> solevita, not sure what you want but you could have a look
[04:06] <defrysk> !pl
[04:06] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:06] <tfr> ubotu: Wiem
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Wiem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <tfr> Ale tam akurat nikogo nie ma :)
[04:06] <wick2o> anyone know how to get SAS working?
[04:07] <tfr> Jest kto z Polski? ;>
[04:09] <darek> tfr, /me jest
[04:09] <tfr> darek: O :)
[04:09] <solevita> just for your interest =)   i used to have a sounddriver for my onboardsound    the sound is just simple with 1 output and 2 inputs      but with the driver i could change the inputs into outputs     that resulted with some default effects  a great sound!   i couldnt believe my ears the first time i heard it    and of course i caught used to it     but since i have ubuntu instead of windows i cant install the original sounddriver wit
[04:09] <solevita> h these functions      and thats what im trying to get now =)    sorry for the long text
[04:09] <tfr> darek: Wiesz ktry to plik do ktrego mog wwpisa komendy ktre odpali ubuntu na starcie?
[04:09] <Zaggynl> how do I browse a cvs server?
[04:09] <darek> tfr, nie ;] 
[04:09] <tfr> Jak robiem masquarade to wiedziaem
[04:09] <tfr> A teraz nie pamitam
[04:09] <tfr> ;p
[04:11] <tfr> darek: Znalazem /etc/rc.local
[04:11] <darek> ;] 
[04:12] <solevita> defrysk, ach je bent ja ook nederlands   en ik zit hier moeilijk te doen in het engels :-D
[04:13] <defrysk> solevita, fot dutch /j #ubuntu-nl
[04:13] <defrysk> for*
[04:13] <asmo674hurt> how to reinstall OpenGL drivers???
[04:13] <solevita> nice   tnx
[04:14] <jelly-home> davidT: if it was an ATA disk, i'd check for SMART errors. Could be the hardware is on its way out.  fsck shouldn't take that long anyway,
[04:14] <rturner> hi, can someone tell me if usb modems are generally supported on ubuntu?
[04:14] <Peggerr>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY  sword.fish
[04:14] <frying_fish> Pegger: nice one :s
[04:15] <frying_fish> Peggerr: even
[04:16] <rturner> i'm looking for a usb fax modem, any advice?
[04:16] <josh_> anyone in here proficient with NFS and/or know of an in depth tutorial for NFS?
[04:16] <asmo674hurt> yesterday i'we take HDD & insert in other PC. now i can't run any application wich need OpenGL, what I need to do???
[04:17] <Peggerr> so why does  The following packages have been kept back:   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386  happen??
[04:17] <josh_> asmo674hurt: u will need to get opengl loaded on the new computer...
[04:17] <asmo674hurt> josh_ my HDD is back in oldo PC...
[04:17] <josh_> you moved a harddrive that kept all the settings from a previous config... unless the system you put the harddrive in is exactly the same you will need to recongifure
[04:18] <tuqann> eh, hello?
[04:18] <asmo674hurt> josh_, ...old...
[04:18] <josh_> did you take it from the old put it in new and then move back to old?
[04:18] <tuqann> is this where I can find help setting up ubuntu dapper
[04:18] <josh_> or going from new to old?
[04:18] <josh_> yes tuqann
[04:19] <solevita> hmm   something smells nice    dinner is ready!!!!   im out
[04:19] <tuqann> okay, so I just go ahead and shoot my questions here or should I privately discuss it with someone?
[04:19] <asmo674hurt> josh_, from old to new and back
[04:19] <josh_> hmm...
[04:19] <josh_> just shoot them in the room tuqann
[04:20] <tuqann> k, I'm working on a laptop, Amilo M1437g, and my ati isn't letting the xserver work
[04:20] <ch4rm0n3> killing people is bad josh_
[04:20] <josh_> lol depends... some people deserve it
[04:20] <tuqann> I am a complete noob, most of the forums are a few miles ahead of me
[04:21] <josh_> tuqann: you need to install the ati drivers
[04:21] <tuqann> now, I guessed most of the commands "apt-get install" and such need an internet connection, right?
[04:21] <mnepton> correct
[04:21] <josh_> yes tuqann
[04:21] <tuqann> yes, I know, but I never seem to get anything working
[04:21] <josh_> !ati
[04:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:21] <tuqann> so so I HAVE to be online in order to fix the drivers?
[04:21] <josh_> tuqann: your online now....
[04:21] <tuqann> I did check this page, I actually have a printout next to me
[04:22] <tuqann> as well as three other more
[04:22] <josh_> ok...
[04:22] <tuqann> but they still confuse the hell out of me
[04:22] <josh_> so you have ati drivers installed?
[04:22] <ch4rm0n3> tuqann: you can instal automatix this program all you have to do is click and install the ati driver and other programs
[04:22] <tuqann> for starters, none of the atp-get commands are working
[04:22] <ch4rm0n3> apt-get
[04:22] <mnepton> please do not use Automatix or EasyUbuntu
[04:23] <ch4rm0n3> why not
[04:23] <tuqann> I'm not sure I am connected when I'm in Ubuntu text prompt
[04:23] <POVaddct> ch4rm0n3: do not recommend automatix here
[04:23] <tuqann> okay
[04:23] <josh_> because of security issues
[04:23] <tuqann> is the program runable on winxp? (I'm duel booting)
[04:23] <asymmetry> Is Anjuta the best bet for a GNOME IDE, or are there other, better alternatives?
[04:23] <mnepton> ch4rm0n3: they can introduce problems that are not easily solved by people new to Linux
[04:23] <Zaggynl> Is there any way to convert a .ebuild to .deb?
[04:23] <ch4rm0n3> ok
[04:23] <josh_> what program tuqann ?
[04:23] <tuqann> automatix
[04:24] <mnepton> tuqann: start Ubuntu, and start Synaptic. do a name search for fglrx. see what you have.
[04:24] <raintheory> tuqann: nope
[04:24] <tuqann> I would need to disconect mirc
[04:24] <andresmujica> hi anyone knows how can i change the status of a bug from unconfirmed to confirmed??  i've been doing some triage trying to confirm bugs but i cannot change its status only make the comment...
[04:24] <tuqann> like I said, I'm duel booting, so everytime I need to check something online or a save webpage I have to restart
[04:24] <mnepton> tuqann: if you can do all that in the next 5 years or so, the channel should still be here ;)
[04:25] <josh_> tuqann: why?
[04:25] <Chm0d> hey guys in ubuntu where is the location of c header files?
[04:25] <josh_> u dont have internet on your ubuntu side?
[04:25] <Rur0un1> andresmujica, add a comment, afterwards you will be able to change it
[04:25] <ChaosFan> Chm0d: usually /usr/include/ or somewhere like that
[04:25] <Rur0un1> Chm0d, try locate ?
[04:25] <tuqann> haahaa, but I was hoping I can clear something of the things now, seeing that I have to move in like 20 minutes
[04:25] <Chm0d> thx
[04:26] <tuqann> ahhh, if I only thought of IRC ealier
[04:26] <kes> hi all
[04:26] <mnepton> tuqann: no to fix anything until you're in Ubuntu. and no way to tell what the exact solution is until you do a little investigation.
[04:26] <raintheory> kes: hello
[04:26] <josh_> tuqann: switch to your ubuntu, do "sudo apt-get install irssi"
[04:26] <josh_> its a text irc program for linux
[04:26] <kes> hi rain how's things?
[04:26] <Mad3Max3> Hi.. wonder if I could get some help.. having problem with the ubunti install
[04:26] <tuqann> k
[04:26] <mnepton> tuqann: can you get on the 'net from Ubuntu?
[04:26] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, what's wrong ?
[04:26] <raintheory> not too bad
[04:27] <josh_> do a /connect irc.freenode.com
[04:27] <raintheory> brb...
[04:27] <tuqann> just tell me, how can I check if I'm actually connected online
[04:27] <ChaosFan> tuqann: just ping something
[04:27] <Heldon> Hello all- Quick question. I'm trying to set up a LAMP server, but can't get into the GUI interface, Tried a apt-get update, but it doesn't reconize my network. I have a static IP, but i don't think it is seeing my dns. Is there a way to set that up manually?
[04:27] <mnepton> tuqann: launch GAIM and use it to connect here
[04:27] <josh_> open a command prompt and type in "ping www.yahoo.com
[04:27] <GuyFromHell> hello folks, can someone help me get my cdrom drive to work on a dell D610? The mount command simply freezes after password input
[04:27] <tuqann> and if I get "Network is unreachable"
[04:27] <mnepton> tuqann: or try Firefox, or ping, or ...
[04:27] <josh_> if you can ping a website your connected
[04:27] <tuqann> like what happened 10 minutes ago
[04:27] <kes> i wonder tah someone explain me how to install wm ware tools..
[04:27] <josh_> are u using dialup?
[04:27] <Rur0un1> GuyFromHell, searched the forums ?
[04:27] <ChaosFan> tuqann: then you aren't connected or your dns is broken ;)
[04:28] <Dr_willis> kes,  you mean VMware tools?
[04:28] <asmo674hurt> yesterday i'we take HDD & insert in other PC. now i can't run any application wich need OpenGL, what I need to do???
[04:28] <mnepton> tuqann: in a terminal, "ifconfig"
[04:28] <tuqann> ipconfig
[04:28] <GuyFromHell> Rur0un1: yea, as best as I could
[04:28] <josh_> kes, load your vmware environment and then go to "tools", install vmware tools"
[04:28] <kes> yes dr wiilis
[04:28] <Rur0un1> kes, there are excellent howtos in the forums
[04:28] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, well.. my comp won't boot the ubuntudisc.. it stops right after I select.. start in the menu..
[04:28] <tuqann> ahhh, not ipconf
[04:28] <mnepton> tuqann: no, ifconfig
[04:28] <tuqann> hoookay
[04:28] <kes> how tos?
[04:28] <tuqann> k
[04:28] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, what do you select from the menu ? Boot or install ?
[04:29] <Dr_willis> kes,  I used the vmware server packages, and downloads from the vmware site to install them  on the guest Os's . vmware server has a feature to auto-install them on windows whichis nice.
[04:29] <mnepton> tuqann: if the primary ethernet interface has an IP address, you probably have DNS issues.
[04:29] <kes> really?
[04:29] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[04:29] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[04:29] <tuqann> gonna try it now, if it didn't work guess I'll try it later
[04:29] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, something with the CD if i look at the errors.. but there can't be.. this is the 5th cd I've tested.. and I have tested the cd on my main computer and it worked
[04:29] <kes> ok but the problem is
[04:29] <tuqann> thanks for the help
[04:29] <tuqann> later\
[04:29] <Rur0un1> GuyFromHell, normally you dont need to mount a Cdrom drive, If I were you I would check if people with same computer had any problems from google first
[04:29] <kes> first i can't go the tools until
[04:29] <kes> guest sistem boot
[04:30] <Heldon> Anyone?
[04:30] <kes> and after it0s no possible
[04:30] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, the first one on the menu..
[04:30] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, your CD-writer might be problematic. How did you make that 5 cds ?
[04:30] <kes> :(
[04:30] <kes> ok
[04:30] <GuyFromHell> Rur0un1: allright I'll try again but like I said, I already checked. I'll be back soon so don't go too far ;-)
[04:30] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, there is also a checksum in the cd rom
[04:30] <josh_> who uses NFS?
[04:30] <ChaosFan> Heldon: u want to set up your dns info manually?
[04:31] <kes> i have only a iso
[04:31] <Dr_willis> kes you made no sence..   Normally i run the vmware server. start the guest os. then install the vmware tools.
[04:31] <Rur0un1> GuyFromHell, you have to first assure someone is capable of running the same hardware, then seeking a solution might work
[04:31] <Heldon> yes, because i can't get the update so i can go into the desktop
[04:31] <kes> yes doc
[04:31] <Heldon> no internet = no update
[04:31] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, I burnt the CD with Nero.. with low speed.. but I tested the Ubuntu CD with my main computer first and it worked
[04:31] <ChaosFan> Heldon: edit (as root, e.g. by using sudo) your /etc/resolv.conf
[04:31] <kes> but it doesn't work ro me
[04:31] <ChaosFan> Heldon: add your dns server there in a line "nameserver <ip>"
[04:32] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, if you have any other *nix computer, please check the checksum in the CD
[04:32] <kes> i see i'll try
[04:32] <ChaosFan> Heldon: and look at the output of the ``route'' command (sudo route), there should be your gateway, if not, do ``sudo route add default gw <ip of router>''
[04:32] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, it's the Check cd feature in the menu right?
[04:32] <Heldon> what if that is blank?
[04:32] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, secondly try to boot the problematic computer with say another bootable like windows XP
[04:32] <ChaosFan> i'm away
[04:32] <kes> thanks...damn i'm crazy for this:(
[04:32] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, yes that will do
[04:32] <Heldon> ChaosFan: What if that is blank?
[04:33] <josh_> anyone? NFS?
[04:33] <ChaosFan> Heldon: if what is blank?
[04:33] <Mille> after i've created some partitions with gparted, after the reboot, suddenly it can't find any of them. i booted with the live cd and the gparted says there is no partition what so ever, BUT, when I boot with the Windows XP cd the partition manager there displays all of partitions that should be there. Any suggestions on how to solve this?
[04:33] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, well in matter of fact.. I tested an old knoppix disc I had.. and it worked
[04:33] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, did you check it recently ?
[04:33] <kes> thanks to all to information and tips thank a lot
[04:33] <Heldon> ChaosFan: The resolv.conf I did a vi on it and it is blank
[04:33] <kes> :)
[04:34] <josh_> Heldon: then you have to add them in therer
[04:34] <ChaosFan> Heldon: then write "nameserver <ip of dns server", if you want multiple lines
[04:34] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, at what part of booting you got problems, do you get an error message ?
[04:34] <ChaosFan> if you have more than one nameserver
[04:34] <ChaosFan> then dns should work
[04:34] <ChaosFan> i have to go now, sorry
[04:34] <Heldon> Thanks
[04:34] <salestodo555> what i need to do if i have read this: " OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' "??? 2 days ago it goes perfectly!
[04:34] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, I built the computer yesterday and tested the knoppix after the Ubuntu failed. Have pretty much tested everything so I thought I'd ask someone
[04:34] <marcepan> hi. I need graphic suite like e.g Corel Draw, is there something similar in the repositiories?
[04:35] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, and what kind of error do you get ?
[04:35] <josh_> marcepan: gimp not good enough for ya?
[04:35] <marcepan> josh_, I need to draw geometrical objects etc, gimp is more for painting and image manipulation methinks
[04:36] <marcepan> josh_, and gpaint is not enough
[04:36] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, "[190.241885]  hdc, ide_intr: huh? expected null handler on exit
[04:36] <josh_> ok get inkspace
[04:36] <oslo> hi! ; how could i tape what i see on my desktop to an video file ?
[04:36] <josh_> or inkscape
[04:36] <josh_> its one of those
[04:36] <marcepan> josh_,  will give it a try, thanks
[04:37] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, at what stage ?
[04:37] <josh_> npo
[04:37] <josh_> np
[04:37] <bionoid> marsu: xfig, gnuplot, for more complex things you might want to look into blender
[04:37] <Zaggynl> Gah, I'm trying to compile aliens versus predators, but I seem to be missing a dependency, no clue which one
[04:38] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/70483-cant-install-ubuntu-kubuntu.html
[04:38] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, I have fetched a laptop now.. shall check teh checksum on the cd.. and lets see what it says..
[04:38] <SeanTater> My laptop suddenly decided to use fglrx, out of the blue, but now my pc only supports 640x480 and even smaller resolutions. Here's my paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27003/ what do I do?
[04:38] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, try searching some part of the error in google or ubuntu forums
[04:38] <GuyFromHell> Rur0un1: Yea I can't find anything. Everything I find shows that it is working for whoever it is.
[04:38] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, the first stage.. after the kernel has been unpacked or something and it tries to mount
[04:39] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, as I read it from google it is because Bad CD drive or bad image burn only
[04:39] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, let's see how the checksum results
[04:40] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, yeah.. it seems odd doesn't it
[04:40] <Rur0un1> GuyFromHell, sorry I don't know. Check your log files in /var/log, may be you can find something
[04:41] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, is it finished ?
[04:41] <Mad3Max3> nope.. just started..
[04:41] <GuyFromHell> Rur0un1: do you know of any more verbose mount command that I could try ti get something from?
[04:41] <M_A_K> I cant seem to get rid of a default route.
[04:42] <jeli> Is there a simple way to remove some of the preinstalled Ubuntu software without it wanting to take ubuntu-desktop?
[04:42] <Rur0un1> GuyFromHell, man mount
[04:42] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, I even changed the firmware in the DVD burner I burnt the disc in and reburnt it..
[04:42] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, I dont know, what does the checksum say ?
[04:42] <GuyFromHell> Rur0un1: *slaps self* of course. I feel stupid. thanks :-)
[04:43] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, it's working.. not finished yet
[04:43] <Rur0un1> GuyFromHell, remember linux presents everything to us. (but just my printer and that's OKI shit :( )
[04:44] <Angie121> hi
[04:44] <Angie121> hello
[04:44] <wrabbit^> hi
[04:44] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, strange it should have finished by now
[04:44] <Angie121> hi rabbit
[04:44] <GuyFromHell> Rur0un1: Yea, but it sometimes hides it from us ;-).
[04:44] <Angie121> wie gehts dia
[04:44] <Angie121> wrabbit hi wie gehts
[04:44] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, maybe something wrong with the CD afterall
[04:45] <wrabbit^> what?
[04:45] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, most probably it is. I would say concentrate on CD or the CDROM/DVDRom what ever
[04:45] <Angie121> not
[04:46] <Angie121> whrer are you from
[04:46] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, one final note, your downloaded iso itself may be broken after all
[04:46] <M_A_K> Anybody know why my default route goes back to and old one after a reboot even if I change it?
[04:46] <casiciaco> does anyone knows how to make work the powerplay of the X700?
[04:47] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, how come it boots on one comp.. but not the one I want it to boot in..
[04:47] <M_A_K> I have tried the sudo route delete df gw (ipaddress) as well as trying to set it via network settings.
[04:48] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, I have seen some incompatibilities between some discs and drives. And neither disc or drive is broken
[04:48] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, Im gonna try changing the DVD in the machine.. maybe it has reading problems.. what can I say.. it's a samsung
[04:48] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, you may try to burn the ISO from a different writer
[04:48] <casiciaco> So nobody konws about X700, powerplay and ubuntu, does someone?
[04:48] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, nero sucks by the way
[04:49] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, what shall I use instead of nero?
[04:49] <M_A_K> mad3max3 : haven't seen the entire conversation, but I have had trouble booting from disks that arent the master on the chain.  I assume you have checked the boot sequence in the bios.
[04:49] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, I don't know if there are any alternatives in windows, you may search it in google. in linux there are applications like K3b
[04:50] <Mad3Max3> M_A_K : I have CD-ROM first in the boot.. and then HD
[04:50] <clarkphp> Hello! 5-day Ubuntu user - loving it!  I wish to try out Eclipse (I'm an old vi user) and am wondering which package I should apply: "ecj-bootstrap", "ecjboostrapt-gcj" or both?  Descriptions for both packages include: "This bootstrap version should be used for uploading initial versions of packages which are a dependency of Eclipse and build with ECJ".  I'm guess the gcj version, as it "contains a native version of ecj using
[04:50] <M_A_K> K, is the drive master or slave?
[04:50] <zardinuk> how do you figure out which version of ubuntu you have?
[04:50] <Mad3Max3> M_A_K : Master on IDE 0.
[04:51] <Mad3Max3> M_A_K : tried setting it as Slave.. and I tried to switch IDE port
[04:51] <GuyFromHell> Rur0un1: FYI I was able to solve the problem in the simplest way possible... I restarted
[04:51] <M_A_K> mad3max3 : will any other cd boot in this drive?
[04:51] <franck_> chier
[04:51] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, I only install the Nero Burning rom. all the other crap that comes with it suxs!
[04:52] <next_level> 	Next_Level	i'm at the install of ubuntu
[04:52] <next_level> 	Next_Level	alternate version
[04:52] <next_level> 	Next_Level	and
[04:52] <next_level> 	Next_Level	when i press enter
[04:52] <next_level> 	Next_Level	it presses 2 times
[04:52] <next_level> 	Next_Level	but i changed even the keyboard it does the same
[04:52] <next_level> 	Next_Level	and i can't go on like this because i can't choose what i want
[04:52] <Chm0d> ok im pulling my hair out what i have left where is the location of the header files vmware is adking for?
[04:52] <Mad3Max3> M_A_K : yes. I booted a old Knoppix disc I had lying around. and it booted
[04:53] <zardinuk> Chm0d: use locate
[04:53] <Chm0d> what do i type after locate?  header?
[04:53] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, CD done now.. 0 errors on the checksum
[04:53] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, sorry I am outta ideas
[04:54] <ubuntunubi> hello
[04:54] <ubuntunubi> can someone tell me which version did ubuntu run on
[04:54] <ubuntunubi> ?
[04:54] <Rur0un1> but still I would say it is a CD problem
[04:54] <GuyFromHell> Rur0un1: Thanks for your help :-) I'm gonna go give this back to the girl that I was working on this for.
[04:54] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, well Im gonna try with another DVD player next.
[04:54] <M_A_K> Then it must bee in the way the disc was burned.  I would agree with rur0un1, it must be media related.
[04:54] <ubuntunubi> X windows type
[04:54] <Rur0un1> GuyFromHell, could you fix it ?
[04:54] <ubuntunubi> X.org or Xfree
[04:54] <morphix> will edgy actually be released in oct :P
[04:55] <morphix> that jmicron problem is a real pain.
[04:55] <clarkphp> FYI on Eclipse install: marking the gcj package automatically marks the other one.  All is well.  Up and running.
[04:55] <Chm0d> locate header
[04:55] <Chm0d> ugh
[04:55] <A[D] minS>  tar -cvvf to make file.tar
[04:56] <A[D] minS> what about tar.bz2?
[04:56] <Mad3Max3> it has nothing to do with me Having SATA drive.. haven't formatted it or anything.. when installing XP u have to create disks and crap to make SATA work. is it that way in Linux aswell?
[04:56] <POVaddct> A[D] minS: tar -cvjf
[04:57] <chrishoeppner> Hey
[04:57] <chrishoeppner> RadiantFire, i got it working. thx a lot!
[04:57] <RadiantFire> cool
[04:57] <pooh_beawr> you know how Ubuntu will clean it'self every 30 days?  How do you force that same action?
[04:57] <salestodo555> what i need to do if i have read this: " OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' "??? 2 days ago it goes perfectly!
[04:57] <rambo3> you just click on ubuntu.exe and it works
[04:57] <A[D] minS> thx
[04:57] <qk_> I trying run XEN on Ubuntu with RAID-1 and have kernel panic - can't find root partition, can't find even hdd for build raid - any ideas ?
[04:58] <ba5e> is there an easy fool proof way to clean up /var ?
[04:58] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, how about the Edgy version.. is that stable.. 6.10
[04:58] <richee> hey folks I have configured my modem and there is no dial tone can anyone suggest the right AT strings which I need to put
[04:58] <chrishoeppner> just if you care: i solved it booting in rescue mode, and setting chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo
[04:59] <Tammy> hey wie kommt man in de german chat ???
[04:59] <chrishoeppner> another question. is there any way i can monitor network activity from an application, eg, connections, ports used, and else...
[04:59] <berent> could not open /initialize audio device no sound ? whats the remedy
[04:59] <Tammy> hay how can i get to the german chat
[05:00] <richee> I would really appreciate if someone could at least try to help me out...I have been breaking my head for two days now...
[05:00] <mnepton> !de > Tammy
[05:00] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, Although I haven't run it (since I stay away from beta sowftware ) almost all the comments on it says, "Edgy rocks and Edgy is superior over dapper". Though It brings some edge programs which are itselves beta, most people found it stable
[05:00] <mnepton> richee: Winmodem?
[05:00] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, still I would recommend wait a couple of weeks
[05:01] <ba5e> richee: whats wrong?
[05:01] <Mad3Max3> Rur0un1, gonna download it.. try if it boots.. u never know! :D
[05:01] <richee> mnepton: it's the internal modem which came with my laptop....It's configured and ATZ also says OK and also ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
[05:01] <richee> OK
[05:01] <richee>  says ok
[05:01] <kmaynard> edgy is nice. there's a lot of updates to it, and some compatibility issues (looking to you, truecrypt), but so far so good
[05:01] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3,  in your situation it makes sense
[05:01] <chrishoeppner> anyone for a network monitor?
[05:01] <Tammy> !de
[05:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:01] <richee> But I am getting a no dial tone....
[05:02] <pooh_beawr> does anyone know how to force the 30 day file system check?
[05:02] <mnepton> richee: what modem is it? or what kind of laptop?
[05:02] <Tammy> #ubuntu-de
[05:02] <Rur0un1> !tr
[05:02] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[05:02] <richee> mnepton: compaq presario v2000 series
[05:02] <berent> could not open /initialize audio device no sound is the message by mplayer when i am user and works fine when root
[05:02] <mnepton> pooh_beawr: sudo touch /forcefsck
[05:02] <A[D] minS> howi can know file size by command line?
[05:03] <mnepton> A[D] minS: ls -l
[05:03] <pooh_beawr> mnepton,... cool thanks ;)
[05:03] <A[D] minS> P.S want it by mb not kb
[05:03] <mnepton> richee: sec
[05:03] <richee> mnepton: sure :)
[05:03] <Tammy> #ubuntu
[05:03] <Tammy> halloooooooooooooo
[05:03] <mnepton> Tammy: /join #ubuntu-de
[05:03] <Tammy> wie kann isch in den deutschen chat
[05:03] <defrysk> !de
[05:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:03] <wrabbit^> !whoah
[05:03] <A[D] minS> mnepton: so what it mean 3044274 ?
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whoah - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <richee> mnepton: u there?
[05:04] <mnepton> A[D] minS: 3044274 bytes
[05:04] <richee> can anyone help me plzzz....
[05:04] <mnepton> richee: i am. looking it up
[05:04] <richee> mnepton: thanks
[05:04] <cfm> Hi all!  My 6.06 server is up and has a name in /etc/hostname, but how do I get the name pushed out to my LinkSys router?
[05:04] <A[D] minS> mnepton: i know :d how i can get it with mega byte
[05:04] <jones> 33
[05:04] <pvt_harv> A[D] minS: u can tyoe ls -lh
[05:04] <jones> 333333333333
[05:05] <A[D] minS> -lH ?
[05:05] <jones> 3333333333333333333
[05:05] <pvt_harv> small H
[05:05] <A[D] minS> aha small letter
[05:05] <A[D] minS> thx
[05:05] <jones> Official Ubuntu support channel. Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ | 6.06 kernel security update issue is fixed | Our hearts and prayers go out to lilo and his family, we will miss you old friend
[05:05] <richee> mnepton: I guess it has this modem     	  Conexant AC97 Data Fax Modem with SmartCP Driver
[05:05] <pvt_harv> A[D] minS:  ur welcome
[05:05] <peder_> Can anyone recommend a imap and smtp server working fine on ubuntu?
[05:06] <mnepton> richee: the problem is that you fdo not have a modem, you have a sound card. that's a Winmodem. and Winmodems are nothing but sound cards that do all their modulation in software.
[05:06] <berent> could not open /initialize audio device no sound is the message by mplayer when i am user and works fine when root
[05:06] <berent> no one here for the taking
[05:06] <richee> mnepton: oh!
[05:06] <Peggerr> so why does  The following packages have been kept back:   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386  happen??
[05:06] <richee> mnepton: so what can be done about it ?
[05:07] <mnepton> richee: there are some Winmodem solutions (some sl-modem-daemon or something) but they are tricky.
[05:07] <richee> mnepton: that's package I installed and gnome-ppp and also wvdial are querying the modem.....
[05:08] <mnepton> richee: OK, i'm not familiar at all with that package. i haven't used a modem in a long, long time.
[05:08] <Zaggynl> arf, almost succeeded in compiling avsp :<
[05:08] <Gasten> If I find a programming-language which gEdit doesn't provide syntax-highlightng for, how can I specify my own?
[05:08] <richee> mnepton: I was just curious to configure it, coz I tried and never succeed
[05:08] <freddybidouille> salut!
[05:08] <richee> mnepton: before
[05:08] <freddybidouille> en forme?
[05:08] <GTX-> Where can I get a script from, so when a process dies it starts it again
[05:08] <mnepton> richee: do you *need* the modem, or are you just curious?
[05:09] <mnepton> Gasten: what language?
[05:09] <richee> mnepton: I need the modem, I want to configure this device with ubuntu/linux
[05:09] <freddybidouille> french
[05:09] <Gasten> mnepton: ChucK.
[05:10] <kmaynard> external modem
[05:10] <Gasten> mnepton: why?
[05:10] <mnepton> Gasten: got a working JRE?
[05:10] <Gasten> mnepton: I'm not sure. I think I have.
[05:10] <Gasten> mnepton: Yes, I do.
[05:11] <Gasten> more or less..
[05:11] <assobachant> bonjour
[05:12] <mnepton> Gasten: you'll want Sun's Java 1.5, available via Synaptic. then run "sudo update-java-alternatives -l" and find the Sun version on the list. then run "sudo update-java-alternatives name-of-the-sun-version-you-find"
[05:13] <mnepton> Gasten: then head over to http://jedit.sf.net and get the Java installer for jEdit. get jEdit installed, and the ChucK syntax highlighting module is here - http://www.jesusgollonet.com/blog/?p=135
[05:14] <Gasten> mnepton: thanks!
[05:14] <kes> hi all
[05:14] <GTX-> Where can I get a script from, so when a process dies it starts it again
[05:14] <kes> i wonder ..are there italian rooms here?
[05:15] <sheriff> i want to download Ubuntu dapper to my system but my can i use the x86 version of it because my proccessor is Amd 64?
[05:15] <mnepton> !it
[05:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:16] <kes> grazie ubotu ma e' solo x capire una ocsa ritorno tra poco...
[05:16] <mnepton> Gasten: not only do you get ChucK highlighting, but jEdit is a *kickbooty* editor.
[05:16] <xav> sheriff, amd 64 is compatible with x86, so yes you can use both version
[05:17] <Gasten> mnepton: what's "kickbooty"?
[05:17] <mnepton> sheriff: you can easily use the x86 version, but once you get it installed get the k7 kernel and restricted modules via Synaptic for the AMD-specific love
[05:18] <mnepton> Gasten: a word to mean "really, really good" without profanity (this channel is family friendly)
[05:18] <sheriff> mnepton : what is k7?
[05:18] <kes> ma nn li trovo
[05:18] <kmaynard> k7 is AMD
[05:19] <mnepton> sheriff: 386 = Intel 386/486  | 686 = Pentium II or better | K7 = 32 bit Athlon (which your 64 is most similar to)
[05:19] <Gasten> mnepton: Aah. ok. I'll look at it when I get some time over. In my experience, Java tends to run painfully slow. But I got a ducky computer.
[05:19] <afief> How can i open an LIT document in Ubuntu?
[05:20] <mnepton> Gasten: to be honest, on a find/replace on an 800Kb file on my machine, jEdit is more than four times as fast as gEdit
[05:20] <femi> i need help with the permissions settings in ubuntu
[05:20] <femi> who can help me'
[05:20] <kmaynard> femi, with what?
[05:20] <mathieu> mnepton: 686 is Pentium Pro or better
[05:20] <femi> i have a problem
[05:20] <femi> i can't do anything cause i guess i've messed up something
[05:20] <GTX-> Where can I get a script from, so when a process dies it starts it again
[05:21] <femi> my sound device does'nt work
[05:21] <kmaynard> can you be a little more specific
[05:21] <sheriff> mnepton: well if i dont get it , the system not gonna work?
[05:21] <mnepton> mathieu: i'd stick with 386 on PPro myself. got burned long ago. :/
[05:21] <femi> and practically everything in the administrator menu has disappeared
[05:21] <kmaynard> what changed?
[05:21] <mnepton> sheriff: it will work fine. but the k7 kernel will give you much better performance
[05:21] <femi> can i pvt you?
[05:21] <Gasten> mnepton: ah. I'm not gonna argue about that. I'll see how it runs. Back to homework.
[05:21] <kmaynard> femi, you say you messed something up...how?
[05:22] <sheriff> mpeton : ok thanks
[05:22] <leap> quiero saber aqui usar netbeans
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[05:22] <LoRez> Warning: `leap' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[05:22] <leap> quiero saber aqui usar netbeans
[05:22] <leap> quiero saber aqui usar netbeans
[05:22] <raintheory> hmmm...   my progress bars aren't working in edgy.
[05:22] <leap> quiero saber aqui usar netbeans
[05:22] <leap> quiero saber aqui usar netbeans
[05:22] <leap> ??
[05:22] <leap> quien sabe
[05:22] <mathieu> callate
[05:22] <wrabbit^> what?
[05:22] <kmaynard> !es
[05:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:23] <sfilleul> hi
[05:24] <sfilleul> Do we have some chance to see fontconfig 2.4.1 in edgy (is in debian now) ?
[05:24] <cfm> My 6.06 server is up and has a name in /etc/hostname, but how do I get the name pushed out to my LinkSys router?
[05:24] <kmaynard> cfm, what for?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> sfilleul: join #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[05:25] <cfm> kmaynard: So I can access it by name from a different machine
[05:25] <SlayedbyGouki> ok this is starting to hack me off...I installed wpasupplicant and wpa-gui....I went to look for the wpa_supplicant.conf file and it doesn't exist in /etc/   wtf?
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> cfm: Wouldn't you just add it to the hosts on the other machine?
[05:26] <kmaynard> cfm, if you're accessing it internally, just use the ip or add the host to the hosts file of the remote machine. if you're trying to get in from outside, you'll need to open the right port(s) to your server
[05:26] <sfilleul> thx gnomefreak
[05:26] <gnomefreak> SlayedbyGouki: check in home under hidden files
[05:27] <raintheory> brb...   switchin to linux
[05:27] <cfm> Hmm, that's not ideal.  It uses DHCP and I have over 20 machine that need to access it.
[05:27] <kmaynard> access it how? samba?
[05:27] <joeCoT> cfm: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/fix-hostname-unknown-in-router/
[05:27] <femi> kmaynard, can u help me?
[05:27] <cfm> kmaynard: HTTP initially, but svn later
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> cfm: You could set up the router to always use the same IP for it.
[05:28] <SlayedbyGouki> gnomefreak: Ok still when I try to run wpa_gui it says it can't connect to x server...is it necessary to edit the .conf file?
[05:28] <gnomefreak> SlayedbyGouki: dont know but i would assume so
[05:28] <cfm> joeCoT: Ah, interesting, I'll give that a go
[05:28] <kmaynard> cfm, dude, if its http you just need to configure apache accordingly
[05:28] <gnomefreak> !wpa > SlayedbyGouki
[05:28] <gnomefreak> SlayedbyGouki: check your pm from ubotu
[05:29] <SlayedbyGouki> gnomefreak: thanks
[05:29] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:29] <cfm> kmaynard: I don't think Apache will help - the box isn't publishing it's name, so I can't ping it etc.
[05:29] <kmaynard> so, what are you using for http?
[05:29] <kmaynard> because if its browser access, your other boxen should be able to resolve the hostname
[05:29] <Mad3Max3> Must be error in the Ubuntu bootdisk,, have tried everything
[05:30] <joeCoT> bbiab
[05:30] <cfm> kmaynard: But without there being any name to access the box by, how can the clients connect?
[05:30] <cfm> Machine's rebooting now with joeCoT's fix...
[05:31] <kmaynard> what server are you running?
[05:31] <SlayedbyGouki> Unfortunately that information shows for version 5.10 of Ubuntu?
[05:31] <cfm> kmaynard: Server is irrelevant I tihnk, but t's Apache2
[05:32] <kmaynard> it's not irrelevant! it's the whole issue
[05:32] <SlayedbyGouki> !wpa
[05:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:32] <kmaynard> if you configure apache correctly, your browsers can access that box using the hostname. I HAVE DONE IT TRUST ME
[05:32] <kmaynard> thats internally...if you want external access, it's gonna take some DNS
[05:33] <femi> heeelp
[05:33] <cfm> But if a computer cannot ping by name, it can't resolve the machine at all.  How does the webserver fix that?
[05:33] <kibbled_bits> does anybody have trouble adding menu items via Alacarte?
[05:33] <berent> could not open /initialize audio device no sound is the message by mplayer when i am user and works fine when root
[05:33] <femi> please help me
[05:33] <femi> i can't do anything
[05:33] <kibbled_bits> is it just me or does that menu editing system seem worthless?  ;)
[05:33] <berent> any takers for this?
[05:33] <kibbled_bits> what's up Femi
[05:34] <SlayedbyGouki> If he can't connect using the machine name hosts probably is missing entries..
[05:34] <sparkleytone> berent: is your user a member of the audio group?
[05:34] <berent> yes i added
[05:34] <femi> i have a problem with permission
[05:34] <der0b> cfm: you need to either add the hostname to ip mapping for that machine to your hosts file or set up a dns server (dnsmasq is an easy one to config and maintain)
[05:34] <femi> can i explain it in private
[05:34] <sparkleytone> berent: when did you add?  just now?
[05:34] <femi> so i don't get messed up?
[05:34] <kibbled_bits> shoot, pm me
[05:34] <berent> yes
[05:34] <berent> shud i reboot
[05:34] <SlayedbyGouki> berent: Use gxine less hassles
[05:34] <PSUSI> berent: did you log the user out and back in again?
[05:34] <kmaynard> a book on networking might help
[05:34] <sparkleytone> berent: now restart your window manager
[05:35] <berent> window manager ? who is that
[05:35] <sparkleytone> berent: just reboot then
[05:35] <PSUSI> log out and back in again
[05:35] <berent> ok
[05:35] <SlayedbyGouki> berent: Ctl+Alt+Backspace
[05:35] <SlayedbyGouki> HEh
[05:35] <Ninja562> hello, I am upgrading from hoary to breezy, after the updates download...what do I do next?
[05:36] <sparkleytone> apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:36] <Mad3Max3> oh.. Kernal Panic.. that a intressting error.,. 4 DVD drives and now a CD-ROM driver..
[05:36] <Ninja562> done
[05:36] <PSUSI> you mean apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:36] <SlayedbyGouki> What...why not upgrade to Dapper?  sudo apt-get update....sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:36] <Ninja562> running
[05:36] <kibbled_bits> femi I have PMed you, if you need help
[05:36] <Mad3Max3> well atlest it goes past the moutning part
[05:36] <sparkleytone> he already got the updates
[05:36] <cfm> kmaynard: Please don't speak to me like that, I don't think I deserve it.
[05:37] <Ninja562> I was told to upgrade to brreezy, then dapper
[05:37] <SlayedbyGouki> Ninja: Ahhh...
[05:37] <kibbled_bits> does anybody here have any luck with Alacarte?
[05:37] <cfm> der0b: Will a DNS server on the box itself trigger the publishing of the hostname to the upstream DNS then?
[05:37] <Ninja562> the update is taking a while and I wanted to know if there was a reboot or something needed
[05:38] <AsheD> any way to do a search and return any files with non-alphanumeric characters?
[05:38] <Zaggynl> Hi, how do I get X to run at 60hz instead of 75hz? (my LCD monitor it's optimal rate is 60hz)
[05:39] <der0b> cfm, you'll just be setting up a private dns server.  You'll just tell your machines to use it as a lookup.  If you need to get to the machine from outside of your network you'll want to get yourself a dyndns account
[05:39] <SlayedbyGouki> Ninja562: Nope...it will do it all and inform you if it needs to reboot..can take a while...
[05:39] <Ninja562> OK
[05:39] <cfm> der0b: I want this machine to get it's IP via DHCP, so the clients can't use it for DNS
[05:39] <Ninja562> I am hoping Dapper will rresolve my amd64 isues
[05:40] <cfm> der0b: I guess what I'm after is what Windows does automatically! :-/
[05:40] <der0b> cfm, if you set up dnsmasq as your dhcp and dns server it won't be a problem.  In general, if you have a machine "serving" you set it to a static IP.
[05:40] <kibbled_bits> Zaggynl: try /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:41] <kibbled_bits> find the section under monitors with frequencies
[05:41] <kibbled_bits> comment out the other lines and put a line for 60 in there
[05:41] <SlayedbyGouki> cfm: I believe you are confusing the situation...DNS will be provided by DHCP to the clients unless you tell it otherwise in the network setup
[05:41] <kibbled_bits> should be pretty straightforward
[05:41] <der0b> cfm: I can't get to my windows machines by name without using the hosts file or a dns server
[05:41] <kibbled_bits> then hit CTRL-BKSPC
[05:41] <cfm> der0b: Yes, but Windows boxes publish their DNS to the upstream server.
[05:41] <freekill> just use linux :p
[05:42] <SlayedbyGouki> freekill: Indeed
[05:42] <cfm> I already have DHCP provided by my router, which provides DNS as well.  I can't switch DHCP to this box, unfortunately.
[05:42] <Zaggynl> kibbled_bits, okay
[05:42] <der0b> cfm, I'm not sure what you mean by upstream server
[05:42] <elias_> I have a linux host with a pptp connection to the internet. how can I share this with my windows vmware instance?
[05:42] <freekill> What linux distro do you use SlayedbyGouki?
[05:42] <Zaggynl> kibbled_bits, I could only find     HorizSync       30.0 - 65.0 VertRefresh     50.0 - 75.0
[05:43] <SlayedbyGouki> Uhhh..Ubuntu Dapper?
[05:43] <cfm> der0b: Sorry, I mean that a Windows box on my network registers itself with the router, and can be accessed by name without any other config.
[05:43] <cherubiel> Zaggynl: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:43] <andyshack> cfm : is this for parsing urls for apache ? im setting up a dns server tomorrow as ive had enough of using either proxies or the windows hosts files to parse url info to apache.
[05:43] <cfm> andyshack: Nope, sorry!
[05:43] <cherubiel> Zaggynl: follow on-screen instructions, backup your old. working xorg.conf before doing this. revert back if it craps up.
[05:44] <der0b> cfm, It's using it's windows hostname when registering..  your linux machine doesn't have one
[05:44] <Zaggynl> cherubiel, cheers
[05:44] <JoeCoT> cfm: to set your windows hostname, you'd need to configure samba for it
[05:44] <der0b> cfm, I think there's a way to config the linux machine to register with a specific name but I don't know how
[05:44] <freekill> Does anyone here also has got troubles  with ati drivers for ubuntu if i install them everything fails so nog i dont have direct rendering
[05:44] <cherubiel> !X
[05:44] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:45] <cherubiel> Zaggynl: ^^
[05:45] <femi> anybody can help?
[05:45] <femi> i have 4 partitions on my disk
[05:45] <femi> (17:22:11) femi: and i wanted to access one of them to store some data
[05:45] <femi> (17:22:20) femi: because the home one was filling up
[05:45] <femi> (17:22:45) femi: so i tried to mount the partition on my home directory
[05:45] <femi> (17:23:08) femi: it worked, cause under preferences it sayd i was the owner
[05:45] <femi> (17:23:25) femi: but i hadn't the permission to change the read/write settings
[05:45] <femi> (17:23:42) femi: then ubuntu automatically logged off and re logged on
[05:45] <femi> (17:23:49) femi: but it didn't work anymore
[05:45] <femi> (17:23:51) femi: i mean
[05:45] <femi> (17:23:57) femi: i didn't have any sound
[05:45] <femi> (17:24:43) femi: i only have device manager, network tools, printing, storage device manager, system log and system monitor in the administration menu
[05:45] <femi> (17:24:56) femi: and neither does the root terminal work anymore
[05:45] <femi> (17:25:17) femi: and the partition that i tried to mount doesn't work anymore
[05:45] <femi> (17:25:25) femi: i mean, it says i cannot access it
[05:45] <femi> (17:25:37) femi: so what have i done?
[05:45] <femi> (17:29:01) femi: now it says the other partitions are unknown user
[05:45] <cherubiel> hey cut the flooding!
[05:46] <wrabbit^> !flood
[05:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:47] <cfm> I'm afraid I think I'm confusing matters by mentioning Windows!  I'll try and restate my problem.
[05:47] <SurfnKid> ok why is there a problem copying files already existing in a destination
[05:47] <SurfnKid> when clicking on replace, it actually doesnt copy them,just replaces the folders
[05:47] <SurfnKid> not the files
[05:47] <femi> ok sorry
[05:48] <femi> but can anyone help?
[05:48] <cfm> My 6.10 box needs to pick up DHCP from my LinkSys router, but needs to be pingable by name from other machines on the network.  Is that even possible?
[05:48] <Subhuman> cfm, yes
[05:49] <JoeCoT> cfm: yes. For most interactions, it'd be using the hostname set in your dhcp.conf ; for windows network interactions, it'll use your hostname from your samba config
[05:49] <Subhuman> cfm, on your routers config, you can set "reserved ips." in your dhcp conf, jus enter an ip and the mac adress of your machine, then your router will always assign the pc with that mac address, the same ip.
[05:49] <femi> is tehre anybody who can help?
[05:49] <kmaynard> whats wrong with static for the one box?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> femi: most people dont read when people flood put the paste in pastebin and give us the link someone might look at it
[05:50] <andyshack> cfm : subhuman has a point, that will allow you to keep your dhcp config on your ubuntu box.
[05:50] <kmaynard> my servers are always staic...it's just easier
[05:50] <andyshack> likewise. cfm : with networking, it really can help to just have static ip's on smaller networks.
[05:51] <cfm> kmaynard: Unfortunately static isn't an option here, it needs to be DHCP.
[05:51] <JoeCoT> cfm: then set the hostname in your dhcp.conf and in samba. that's all you need to do
[05:52] <cfm> JoeCoT: I'm not running a DHCP server on the Ubuntu box, so have no dhcp.conf
[05:52] <andyshack> cfm : are you just wanting to be able to type in \\servername and then just see the shared drives ?
[05:53] <femi> how do i open pastebin?
[05:53] <boink> !pastebin
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:53] <cfm> andyshack: No, right now I just need to ping by name.  I'll sort out the network services later.
[05:53] <cherubiel> cfm: try dyndns
[05:53] <JoeCoT> cfm: you have no dhclient.conf ?
[05:54] <JoeCoT> #send host-name "andare.fugue.com";
[05:54] <andyshack> cfm : i have a generic 6.10 with samba running and that works fine.. it does however have a static ip although im not sure that it really makes that much difference once the machine has authenticated itself through your router. does it people ?
[05:55] <femi> ok anybody hel me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27010/
[05:55] <cfm> JoeCoT: I have dhcpclient.conf yes, and I applied that change after you mentioned it before.
[05:55] <femi> please
[05:55] <JoeCoT> restarted networking? any affect? are the other machines unix or windows?
[05:55] <andyshack> i just tried to ping servername and it worked fine.
[05:55] <cfm> JoeCoT: I bounced the whole box, just to be sure.  Windows client isn't able to ping by name
[05:56] <sfeehan> Does anyone know the ubuntu equivalent of the debian base-config command?
[05:56] <JoeCoT> cfm: then set up the hostname in samba for windows networking
[05:56] <cfm> JoeCoT: I'll look into it, thanks
[05:57] <cfm> Hmm, no Samba installed.  One moment while I apt-get it...
[05:57] <andyshack> thats your problem cfm
[05:58] <cfm> Does Windows ping use netbios names then?
[05:58] <Mad3Max3> I hope the ubuntu team can sort their installer out so it will boot..
[05:58] <PSUSI> yea, windows can use netbios for name resolution
[05:59] <beligum> Does someone know of some good Linux-based visual art projects?
[05:59] <JoeCoT> cfm: i know if does for all file sharing, dunno about hostname resolution period
[05:59] <femi> anybody seen my problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27010/
[05:59] <femi> please help me if possible
[05:59] <der0b> cfm, you're router may use netbios for name res, so you would need samba configured
[05:59] <der0b> *your
[05:59] <Ninja562> the update is still going...
[06:00] <cfm> der0b: Ah, now that would make sense - I see now.
[06:00] <Mad3Max3> to bad thou.. the ubuntu dist was a perfect OS for me.. but since it won't boot and install.. I can pretty much use it as a coffecup tray
[06:00] <raintheory> okay guys...    I'm on my laptop running Dapper, and I want to connect to my desktop running Edgy (via VNC or something like that), what is the easiest way to accomplish this?
[06:01] <andyshack> femi : i cant help you with your partition problem, sorry.
[06:01] <femi> ok
[06:01] <raintheory> I already have the remote stuff set up on edgy
[06:01] <PSUSI> raintheory: enable vnc and use it?
[06:01] <kmaynard> raintheory, you might wanna try www.nomachine.com
[06:01] <femi> so does the installation cd resolve my problem
[06:01] <femi> is it possible?
[06:01] <JoeCoT> raintheory: vnc for desktop, sftp or samba for files
[06:01] <kmaynard> you can use vnc too, but its laggier
[06:01] <SurfnKid> guys how can i make a link to my usb drive to show as a list on apache web server?
[06:01] <raintheory> what about Gnome-RDP?
[06:02] <andyshack> femi : maybe wait a while and someone will get back to you. have you made all of these partitions in ubuntu ? i mean : these are not windows partitions right ?
[06:02] <klm-> is there a free pdf editor (which I could use to fill out pdf forms) for ubuntu?
[06:02] <cfm> JoeCoT, der0b: Yes, that was it!  Many thanks for all your help
[06:02] <femi> no
[06:02] <femi> not windows
[06:02] <PSUSI> raintheory: no, RDP is the windows remote desktop protocol
[06:02] <femi> they are ubuntu ext2/ext3
[06:02] <JoeCoT> cfm: no problem
[06:02] <meheren> how do i reconfigure a package
[06:02] <PSUSI> meheren: dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[06:02] <meheren> ah thx so much
[06:03] <raintheory> okay i'll try VNC at the moment (since I'm more familiar with that)..   i'll let you know what happens
[06:03] <raintheory> should i just grab it from synaptic?
[06:03] <JoeCoT> raintheory: search the forums for shareX11vnc . might be a good setup for you
[06:03] <Mad3Max3> is there anywhere I can report the fatal problems with the ubuntu bootdisc?
[06:03] <raintheory> JoeCot: thanks i'll check that out
[06:03] <JoeCoT> raintheory: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565&highlight=sharex11vnc
[06:04] <PSUSI> Mad3Max3: yes... file a bug report
[06:04] <morbid88> hey guys. Anyone know how to reset root password on mysql? I tried following the guidelines in this page, but it didn't work. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[06:04] <h0ax> i have abit of trouble with my sound drivers i need ac97 onboard drivers and cant find them
[06:04] <Mad3Max3> PSUSI : ok..
[06:05] <dom-chilln> i try to install a vpn server on my Xubuntu, try it with this documentation (german) http://www.uni-koblenz.de/GHRKO/VPNUbuntu , installed the software, but than i should use a Applet to add a new VPN...dont know how to get there
[06:05] <andyshack> femi : i do not know if one may mount drives with the live cd. ive not tried. i assume it creates a ram drive allowing read write access so possibly one could. perhaps run the live cd, mount all of the partitions and see which one it is that you are meant to be booting from.. i think you may wish to then have a play with grub (there is a program called super grub disk that i have used before that helped) and boot off your old partition
[06:05] <h0ax> 
[06:05] <andyshack> ..working for you in the first place ? im not very good as i said with mounting things.
[06:05] <morbid88> could anyone please help me reset the root password on mysql server?
[06:06] <JoeCoT> morbid: you tried starting it with skip grant tables? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1476548&postcount=5
[06:06] <morbid88> JoeCoT: I tried both solutions.
[06:06] <morbid88> JoeCoT: neither one seemed to work.
[06:06] <Rookie_> morbid - dpkg-reconfigure mysql
[06:07] <andyshack> femi : do you have any data in any of these partitions that means anything to you ?
[06:07] <JoeCoT> morbid88: what happened when you did skip grant tables?
[06:07] <andyshack> femi : sometimes, it really is just easier to nuke the thing and start again.
[06:07] <dom-chilln> how get i to this nice window, where i should add svn options : http://www.uni-koblenz.de/GHRKO/pics/VPN/ubuntu/Schritt1 (sorry, me is very new at linux operating systems)
[06:07] <femi> i have a lot of data i need
[06:07] <femi> but it's only on one partition
[06:07] <klm-> can I fill out pdf forms in ubuntu for free?
[06:08] <morbid88> JoeCoT: I managed to connect, but I couldn't do anything. I followed the guide in the reference manual, including updating the password and flushing the priviliges.
[06:08] <femi> i am afraid that if i installed ubuntu on the other free partition
[06:08] <morbid88> nada.
[06:08] <femi> i wouldn't have the permissions to access my old data
[06:08] <JoeCoT> morbid88: and it updated the table?
[06:08] <femi> is it possible?
[06:09] <femi> is it possible to burn dvd's with the livecd os?
[06:09] <andyshack> femi : i cannot answer that. i would assume not although as its your data and im a noob best seek additional help.
[06:09] <jaks> anyone got experience with fuse/obexftp ?
[06:09] <jaks> *obexfs
[06:09] <andyshack> femi : yes i think i saw someone burn a cd with the live cd.
[06:09] <femi> ok then
[06:09] <femi> i'll try
[06:09] <femi> thanx and bye
[06:09] <LabThug> Can anyone tell me which package I need to install to watch the CNN videos under Opera?
[06:10] <gnomefreak> LabThug: realplayer i think
[06:10] <cryptonic> could someone help me out with this error im getting when trying to install ubuntu : "kernel panic - not syncing : IO - APIC + timer doesnt work! try using the noapic ' kernel parameter" ?
[06:11] <Anybody> how can i launch beep media player in terminal?
[06:11] <JoeCoT> cryptonic: have you tried using the noapic option at the installation prompt?
[06:11] <LabThug> gnomefreak, it's already installed.  I think CNN uses WMVs now
[06:11] <cryptonic> well i didnt see an installation prompt
[06:11] <jaks> Anybody: surely just run the command from a Terminal Window?
[06:11] <cryptonic> just some options
[06:11] <der0b> labthug: have you installed the win32codecs package?
[06:12] <LabThug> der0b: yes
[06:12] <morbid88> JoeCoT: how to I pastebomb?
[06:12] <morbid88> !pastebomb
[06:12] <morbid88> ... that didn't work...
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebomb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <JoeCoT> cryptonic: which install cd? have you tried to alternative install cd?
[06:12] <morbid88> oh, got it it's in the subject.
[06:12] <cryptonic> right so does anyone know what could cause an error like that?
[06:13] <Rookie_> !pastebin
[06:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:13] <cherubiel> !paste > morbid88
[06:13] <gnomefreak> LabThug: gxine plugin plays them
[06:13] <nordik> link with -lm
[06:13] <Rookie_> ln ... not lm
[06:13] <nordik> join ##c
[06:13] <LabThug> gnomefreak: that's installed too....hmmm
[06:13] <gnomefreak> LabThug: hold on it looked like it was going to
[06:14] <morbid88> JoeCoT: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27011
[06:14] <cryptonic> i wonder if it has anything to do with that new bootloader
[06:15] <JoeCoT> morbid88: do that again, but afterwards, run the query: "select * from mysql.user where PASSWORD=PASSWORD('12345')"
[06:15] <dom-chilln> can somebody explain me how i could install a vpn server on my xubuntu?
[06:16] <Ninja562> what is the diff between Dapper and Kubuntu?
[06:16] <JoeCoT> morbid88: after updating the password. i want to see if that's what the password's set to. you'll notice the query matched 1 and changed 0
[06:16] <W9ZEB-Lars> what's the site that talks about the differences between 6.10 and current?
[06:16] <dom-chilln> installed all entries in the package manager which i found with "vpn" (network manager pp. etc) but how could i configer it?
[06:16] <morbid88> cherubiel: thanks, I found it :-)
[06:17] <morbid88> JoeCoT: I noticed that. I tried another method, the one found at this page http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[06:17] <morbid88> but it got the same results.
[06:17] <Rookie_> morbid88 dpkg-reconfigure mysql
[06:17] <PSUSI> Ninja562: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome... Dapper is the current stable release of ?buntu
[06:17] <SlayedbyGouki> I have been trying to get wpa_supplicant to find my wireless nic which is automatically detected during boot..Dapper..how do I figure out which of the options I should use with wpa_supplicant? ie madwifi, etc...nic is D-Link DWL620+
[06:18] <Ninja562> Oh, thanks..Both are amd64 good 2 go?
[06:18] <morbid88> JoeCoT: let me try that other thing you wanted me to do. bbiab.
[06:18] <JoeCoT> morbid88: yes, i want to see if the password is /already/ 12345, and there's something else that's the issue
[06:18] <PSUSI> Ninja562: yes, there are amd64 builds of Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[06:19] <Ninja562> I am running one now, the update and upgrade process understand the diff and take care of it..yes?
[06:19] <JuNkPhreak> Hello All
[06:19] <JoeCoT> morbid88: also, start mysqld_safe like this: mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables -u root &
[06:21] <jaks> any used FUSE?
[06:21] <morbid88> JoeCoT: here's the result - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27012
[06:21] <LabThug> ooo, hold on, I hit refresh and now gxine is loading up
[06:21] <deedubb> Hello. I have a question - is there a way to get the gd2 library for php without installing x11-common? If I compile it myself does it still require x11-common?
[06:21] <klm-> can I fill out pdf forms in ubuntu for free?
[06:21] <boink> sure
[06:21] <LabThug> hmmm, let's try clicking the play button
[06:21] <cfm> morbid88: You don't have a root@localhost user?
[06:21] <JoeCoT> morbid88: okay, have you tried restarting and logging in?
[06:21] <LabThug> well, that hung it...yay!
[06:22] <morbid88> JoeCoT: with a trailing slash http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27012/
[06:22] <JoeCoT> morbid88: cfm brings up a good point
[06:22] <morbid88> it seems to me that I did get a result, but why isn't it accepting it on login?
[06:23] <X92|James> Hi.
[06:23] <jaks> deedubb: you'll probably still need the x libraries
[06:23] <dom-chilln> hihi ... can somebody help me to install a vpn server on my xubuntu?
[06:23] <JoeCoT> morbid88: if you still can't login, try: "UPDATE mysql.user SET Host='localhost' WHERE USER='root';"
[06:23] <BlueEagle> dom-chilln: apart from apt-get install vnc-server and configuring it?
[06:23] <ROBOd> hello
[06:23] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell dom-chilln about anyone
[06:24] <X92|James> I've just got Ubuntu in the post.
[06:24] <ROBOd> how to access an usb sticky? 1gb data
[06:24] <X92|James> And basically, I'm a n00b.
[06:24] <X92|James> Any advice. :)
[06:24] <jaks> X92|James: put the cd in your cd drive
[06:24] <jaks> and reboot
[06:24] <jaks> and then you're free
[06:24] <X92|James> Yeah.
[06:24] <X92|James> I know that. :)
[06:25] <X92|James> Can I run from the disk?
[06:25] <jaks> well theres not much else to it
[06:25] <jaks> you can
[06:25] <X92|James> And how do I get mIRC or anything to work?
[06:25] <SlayedbyGouki> Ok so I tried running wpa_supplicant with -Dtest -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf...now it says it couldn't run it because there may have been an unclean exit the last time the command ran....how to check for the errant temp file?
[06:25] <X92|James> Or cant I?
[06:25] <jaks> it's a LiveCD
[06:25] <JuNkPhreak> \quit
[06:25] <jaks> mIRC is Windows only
[06:25] <richiefrich> yes
[06:25] <jaks> but you could always run it through wine
[06:25] <X92|James> Thought so.
[06:25] <X92|James> WINE?
[06:25] <X92|James> I've heard of that.
[06:25] <Gwildor> why for?
[06:25] <JuNkPhreak> man havent used irssi in long time
[06:25] <X92|James> And Crossover Office.
[06:26] <JoeCoT> X92|James: it's a livecd, so yes. if you have questions, ask on the forums, search the wiki, or ask here. no mIRC, but there's xchat. most windows programs have a linux alternative. if there's not, you can run it in wine.
[06:26] <JuNkPhreak> anyone here using sparc box for servers for ubuntu ?
[06:26] <LabThug> X92|James: Wine adds the stability of Windows to the user-friendlyness of Linux :-)
[06:26] <X92|James> What is WINE?
[06:26] <X92|James> OK. :)
[06:26] <deedubb> X92|James, you'll love the IRC clients linux has, they're more powerful then mirc and they make you look ubber nerdy
[06:26] <jaks> lol LabThug
[06:26] <X92|James> Windows isnt stable though...
[06:26] <LabThug> yep, and Linux isn't user-friendly
[06:27] <X92|James> OK...
[06:27] <LabThug> but Wine lets you run Windows applications on Linux
[06:27] <dom-chilln> BlueEagle:i am very new a linux, have install all packets which i found, when i searched "vpn", is that all? or have i to download more?
[06:27] <JuNkPhreak> it will be as time go's on
[06:27] <JoeCoT> X92|James: wine is a windows api handler, ie it lets you run windows programs. You're probably better off running a linux program though, if one's available.
[06:27] <Mad3Max3> where can I download the edge version.. since the dapper is crap
[06:27] <JuNkPhreak> it has made alot of changes sence the start
[06:27] <X92|James> What about Crossover Office
[06:27] <X92|James> And is WINE free?
[06:27] <deedubb> $$
[06:27] <X92|James> Where do I get it?
[06:27] <X92|James> ARGH!
[06:27] <X92|James> lol
[06:27] <Shin_Gouki> itsfree
[06:27] <richiefrich> Mad3Max3 you mean debian ?
[06:27] <jaks> Wine is free and you get it by "apt-get install wine"
[06:27] <Shin_Gouki> use google
[06:27] <morbid88> JoeCoT: sorry, I was lagging fro some reason (probably still am). Did i miss anything after I gave you the new pastebin/
[06:27] <morbid88> ?
[06:27] <Gwildor> X92|James, WINE is NOT worth it jsut for mirc...
[06:28] <JoeCoT> morbid88: if you still can't login, try: "UPDATE mysql.user SET Host='localhost' WHERE USER='root';"
[06:28] <X92|James> I knwo.
[06:28] <X92|James> But games etc.
[06:28] <ROBOd> how to access an usb sticky? 1gb data
[06:28] <jaks> for games, you're gonna want cedega
[06:28] <X92|James> Anyway, BRB.
[06:28] <X92|James> Ubuntuing.
[06:28] <kulbir> Is there a toolset for creating PDF files on Linux?
[06:28] <richiefrich> ROBOd mount it
[06:28] <X92|James> OK.
[06:28] <Mad3Max3> richiefrich, no I mean v6.10 of Ubuntu. and not the 6.06.1 dappar.. that has a crap bootload
[06:28] <X92|James> Thanks all.
[06:28] <deedubb> GRANT all on * to root identified by 'password'; flush privileges;
[06:28] <X92|James> How about MSN Messenger?
[06:28] <Gwildor> ROBOd, plug it in...
[06:28] <X92|James> Shoudl I just use webmessenger, or is there a Linux equivalent.
[06:28] <jaks> apt-get install gaim
[06:29] <Mad3Max3> richiefrich, since the 6.06.1 wont boot.. maybe the beta will
[06:29] <ROBOd> richiefrich: how?
[06:29] <JoeCoT> X92|James: for games, you can try wine, cedega, or crossover office. they all have varying results, but none are going to run games at full speed (as fast as windows)
[06:29] <X92|James> :(
[06:29] <klm-> kulbir: msg me if you get the answer :P
[06:29] <X92|James> Anyway, be right back.
[06:29] <Mad3Max3> richiefrich, And it's called edgy or something I belive
[06:29] <kulbir> klm-: lol
[06:29] <jaks> X92|James: there gaimwhich is an IM for anything, or aMSN which is more for MSN
[06:29] <kulbir> klm-: sure
[06:30] <richiefrich> Mad3Max3 i suggest a differ distro.. or did you try to pass any boot options
[06:30] <klm-> kulbir: thanks!
[06:30] <richiefrich> ROBOd i need to know some info 1st
[06:30] <jaks> heh i want windows live messenger on ubuntu..
[06:30] <W9ZEB-Lars> what's the actual release date of Edgy?
[06:30] <ROBOd> got it working
[06:30] <ROBOd> thanks guys
[06:30] <ROBOd> :)
[06:30] <richiefrich> ROBOd ok
[06:30] <JoeCoT> klm: http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/06/0612209&tid=49&tid=47
[06:30] <georgy> jaks : gaim or install amsn
[06:30] <richiefrich> bitlee
[06:30] <cga> hi , how do i see if i have a .deb installed ? (not in repos btw)
[06:31] <jaks> georgy: i know i know, i use gaim. but i like windows live - gaim's boring!
[06:31] <defrysk> cga, you can see it in synaptic when u use the filters available
[06:31] <richiefrich> bitlbee
[06:31] <W9ZEB-Lars> jaks: you could try, although I doubt it'll work knowing Microsoft, using wine or Crossover Office
[06:31] <cga> defrysk, i'm on kubuntu and don't use synaptic , any CLI ?
[06:31] <Gwildor> it probably needs .net
[06:32] <jaks> i got msn messenger 7 running through wine.. anything newer doesn't work
[06:32] <W9ZEB-Lars> jaks: since most new Microsoft products check to see what version OS you're on, I doubt it'll work.
[06:32] <Mad3Max3> richiefrich, well.. the Dapper has problem reading my discs.. so it's a disc reading problem.. and since my dvd driver can read dists like Knoppix.. I belive it's the Dapper bootdisc that is corrupt
[06:32] <defrysk> cga, can be done on cli but not sure how
[06:32] <JoeCoT> morbid88: any luck?
[06:32] <cga> defrysk, thanks anyway =)
[06:32] <Zaggynl> Hi, I've been trying to get my monitor to run at 60 hz (it's optimum refresh rate), but I can't find a way how to set that :(
[06:32] <Zaggynl> The Gnome tools only lists 75hz
[06:32] <richiefrich> Mad3Max3 does knoppix boot
[06:32] <mr_daniel> under ubuntu a nice weather-applet is available
[06:32] <mr_daniel> but
[06:32] <JoeCoT> Zaggynl: in your xorg.conf
[06:32] <defrysk> bad wetaher too
[06:32] <W9ZEB-Lars> The None beta release date for EdgyEft is?
[06:32] <mr_daniel> where the program get's the weatger-data?
[06:33] <jaks> and cxoffice has win98/200 'bottles' -- live msgr needs xp!
[06:33] <mr_daniel> and the cool small icon's
[06:33] <defrysk> mr_daniel, in the prefs
[06:33] <Zaggynl> JoeCoT, I tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and editing xorg.conf, but still nothing :(
[06:33] <Mad3Max3> richiefrich, Yes.. without any errors..
[06:33] <SlayedbyGouki> fsck people...I can't find the frickin' D-Link DWL 620+ listed on the compatible list for ubuntu..it works or I wouldn't be typing to you right now...anyone know which chipset this uses? They vary by model..duh
[06:33] <JoeCoT> Zaggynl: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=472868
[06:33] <Zaggynl> thanks
[06:33] <mr_daniel> defrysk: i am not asking how to set the location, I am asking for the source where the weather-data come from ?
[06:33] <richiefrich> Mad3Max3  can you  try to pass options at boot on dapper idk i have not used it
[06:34] <Mad3Max3> richiefrich, but knoppix isn't my taste in dist.. like the ubuntu.. Just dl knoppix so see if it would boot on my new comp.. and it did..
[06:34] <jaks> SlayedbyGouki: you might be able to figure out the chipset from lspci/lsusb
[06:34] <meheren|> i need to set up a extremely secure proxy and firewall does anyone have some suggestions for progroms to use?
[06:34] <richiefrich> Mad3Max3 no i am sure but there are many
[06:34] <kmaynard> meheren|, linksys :)
[06:35] <meheren|> ok thx
[06:35] <richiefrich> Mad3Max3 as for why it doesnt boot  there can be many reasons
[06:35] <Mad3Max3> richiefrich, I can pass options before starting the boot.. in the menu
[06:35] <nn> whats a good cd-burning app in gnome (ubuntu/dapper preferably) that can do audio from mp3/ogg? :)
[06:35] <richiefrich> Mad3Max3 if you can then try
[06:36] <defrysk> nn, serpentine
[06:36] <Mad3Max3> richiefrich, try what?
[06:36] <W9ZEB-Lars> meheren|: if you've got an old pc laying around, and a couple/few network cards, take a look at ipcop.org
[06:36] <nn> Ahh, thank you :)
[06:36] <richiefrich> nn cdrecord
[06:36] <W9ZEB-Lars> meheren|: or monowall
[06:36] <richiefrich> Mad3Max3 well they usually have options you can try
[06:36] <nn> richiefrich, that's fine for me, not for the wife who's too impatient to fool with bash :)
[06:36] <kulbir> klm-: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_and_Print_to_a_Virtual_PDF_Printer
[06:37] <nn> defrysk, Unsupported file type :|
[06:37] <richiefrich> nn i have a greaT page for you then
[06:37] <meheren|> W9ZEB-Lars, heh i have nethier... :( the only pc i have on me is a macbook
[06:37] <meheren|> (intel)...
[06:37] <nn> defrysk, by chance know the package providing mp3 support?
[06:37] <defrysk> nn you need to read about restricted formats
[06:37] <farruinn> How do I specify which version of automake I want to use? I have automake1.4 and automake1.7 installed. Would it be safe to remove 1.4?
[06:37] <defrysk> !mp3
[06:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:37] <richiefrich> nn http://penguinslair.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3
[06:37] <meheren|> kmaynard, synaptic can't find that package (linksys) do you know the name of the package?
[06:38] <morbid88> JoeCoT: Is that Host='localhost' supposed to be after the SET and before the WHERE?
[06:38] <morbid88> deedubb: It doesn't seem to be a priviliges issue, it won't accept th password after Ive set it.
[06:38] <morbid88> JoeCoT: I think that may have fixed it. I'm going to check on phpmyadmin. Thanks, mate!
[06:38] <deedubb> morbid88: does ubuntu use the OLD_PASSWORD() ?
[06:38] <defrysk> richiefrich, please refer to official ubuntu pages
[06:38] <JoeCoT> morbid88: np. the reason was that you're on localhost, and there was no user line for it
[06:38] <Mad3Max3> richiefrich, tried a couple of others optical drives.. with a old CD-ROM I actually got past the first stage.. it crashed later on thou.. with a Kernel panic error! :(
[06:38] <richiefrich> defrysk err why ?
[06:39] <defrysk> richiefrich, cos its not supported by ubuntu
[06:39] <deedubb> or you could've done mysql -h <hostname> -u root -p
[06:39] <richiefrich> defrysk what cdrecord ?
[06:39] <defrysk> richiefrich, the howto's on that website
[06:40] <richiefrich> defrysk thats supported by any distro works in any distro
[06:40] <defrysk> richiefrich, just use ubuntu pages or shush
[06:40] <richiefrich> defrysk then kick me
[06:40] <TheBigToe> hey guys, I installed ubuntu and then reinstalled windows xp and it's overwritten GRUB, how do I get it back again?
[06:40] <meheren|> kmaynard, synaptic can't find that package (linksys) do you know the name of the package?
[06:40] <defrysk> Seveas, u there ?
[06:41] <Seveas> no
[06:41] <JoeCoT> meheren: he was joking. he meant buy a linkysys router/firewall
[06:41] <defrysk> good ;p
[06:41] <TheBigToe> hey guys, I installed ubuntu and then reinstalled windows xp and it's overwritten GRUB, how do I get it back again?
[06:42] <Seveas> !grub > TheBigToe
[06:42] <iliya> Hi, I tried Kubuntu and I'm going to insatll it, it detect allmy hardware, But Please HELP how to enter pass and login to detected wireless network
[06:42] <tania> tania491992@hotmail.com
[06:42] <Seveas> !wifi > iliya
[06:42] <TheBigToe> thanks Seveas
[06:42] <iliya> Hi, I tried Kubuntu and I'm going to insatll it, it detect allmy hardware, But Please HELP how to enter pass and login to detected wireless networkyes
[06:42] <toc> im trying to install ati driver on ubunty edgy, but when i try to sudo apt-get install fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r) it says: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-7-generic ??
[06:42] <morbid88> JoeCoT: I'm lagging terribly. but I was always referring to 'localhost'. So why didn't it work?
[06:42] <richiefrich> nn but that page shows many things you can do
[06:42] <meheren|> ok hmm what do i have to do to get anon-proxy up and running?
[06:43] <Seveas> toc, dude, do a kernel upgrade and reboot
[06:43] <richiefrich> Mad3Max3 sorry man now what
[06:43] <toc> will try
[06:43] <grizzmock> somebody there to explain a linux dau, who to install a vnc server on Xubuntu (to controll the pc from a windows machine (with ULTRAVnc)
[06:44] <PepperBob> hi all!
[06:44] <nn> richiefrich,  thanks
[06:44] <richiefrich> nn no problem i find it faster
[06:44] <JoeCoT> morbid88: because the hostname for that user line for root wasn't localhost. it was something else which i forget (the result you got when you selected). So it basically was running "select * from users where user='root' and host='localhost' and password=password('12345')", got no results, and denied you access.
[06:44] <toc> ehum, how do one upgrade the kernel?
[06:44] <kaot> anyone able to recommend a good linux-compatible tv tuner card?
[06:45] <Seveas> toc, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:45] <nn> I usually do things from sh, but she's just recently moving to ubuntu, liking it so far ok tho
[06:45] <toc> make dep ; make bzImage i can grasp, just never did it on ubuntu before :/
[06:45] <richiefrich> toc  you need to install the headers  and the source if  you do it by hand
[06:46] <boink> toc: there's a better way to compile the kernel
[06:46] <JoeCoT> bbiab
[06:46] <boink> use the debian way, it makes it into a .deb
[06:46] <boink> !kernel
[06:46] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:46] <boink> !tell toc about kernel
[06:47] <toc> yeah I know what the kernel is, just not used to using apt-get to do it for me
[06:47] <richiefrich> cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make && make install modules_install
[06:47] <nn> thanks for the pointer to the mp3 stuff :)
[06:48] <morbid88> JoeCoT: aaaah. gotcha! so that means I didn't even HAVE a 'root'@localhost? 'cos then it would have come up in a select * where user=root....
[06:49] <farruinn> toc: There is also a debian howto that may be helpful to you. Check www.debian.org/doc
[06:50] <Zaggynl> Meh, I just tried poking around with modeslines in xorg.conf, but I didn't work and I had to put my backup xorg in palce
[06:50] <Zaggynl> *place
[06:50] <Zaggynl> I still can't get my monitor to run at 60hz :>
[06:50] <Charminthemoose> hi,my brother is going to install ubuntu on his computer and i'm just asking how debian like is ubuntu?'cos i'm running debian atm
[06:50] <Zaggynl> bleeding edge debian
[06:50] <cfm> morbid88: Exactly - you couldn't log in because the user had somehow disappeared.  Fixing the password was changing the password on a different user, not the one you were logging in with ;-)
[06:50] <farruinn> Zaggynl: Why do you want it to? 60 Hz hurts my eyes :)
[06:51] <Zaggynl> farruinn, optimal refresh rate of my LCD monitor
[06:51] <nn> Charmin: I use both, i prefer ubuntu's package selection :)
[06:51] <Gwildor> Charminthemoose, configs & such are the same...jsut packages are different.. (incompatable repo's)
[06:51] <morbid88> man o man. Learn soemthing new every day.Thanks guys, until next time!
[06:51] <morbid88> exit
[06:51] <Zaggynl> gnome-display-properties only lists 75zh at Refresh rates, how can I add more?
[06:52] <Charminthemoose> thanks guys
[06:53] <vivi_> hi
[06:53] <Zaggynl> 'lo
[06:54] <vivi_> how are you today?
[06:54] <yemu> hello, anyone can help me with setting up a shared printer in ubuntu? i've tried a lot of howtos from the net but t still doesn't work
[06:54] <boggle> Zaggynl: probably 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' will offer you some more choices? I recommend saving the working x configuration though
[06:54] <Zaggynl> boggle, I ran that, but it still only lists 75hz
[06:54] <yemu> i have a working printer on one computer, and just want to share it
[06:55] <yemu> with cups
[06:55] <vivi_> beszl valaki magyarul?
[06:55] <PepperBob> what should i add to the sources.list to access testing branch? i'm running dapper on amd64
[06:55] <PepperBob> i need newer packages than the ones in the default sources
[06:55] <juanma> q tal?
[06:55] <vivi_> uh
[06:56] <Zaggynl> I know the right vertical and horizontal refresh rates for my monitor, but I don't know how to force my monito to 60hz :(, and modelines make my X crash
[06:56] <indref> Ok, what the hell is wrong with my mouse?
[06:56] <dutchy> hello, I have a question about installing AmaroK on Gnome (using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok ) apt-get install amarok returns "amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable" ... can anyone tell me how i get that lib?
[06:56] <vivi_> I don't speak english
[06:56] <indref> vivi_, Heh.
[06:56] <notwist> anyone know if i can create torrents in rTorrent?
[06:56] <Rur0un1> vivi_, which country ?
[06:56] <Mad3Max3> If the edgy version won't work I will make christmas decoractions of all the Ubuntu discs I've burned this day..
[06:56] <indref> My touch pad is just plain not working and I need help with it.
[06:56] <Rur0un1> vivi_, !es
[06:56] <Mad3Max3> and send them to the Ubuntu team!
[06:56] <Mad3Max3> lol
[06:57] <Rur0un1> indref, what is wrong about it ?
[06:57] <Rur0un1> Mad3Max3, could you fix the problem ?
[06:57] <Mad3Max3> no
[06:57] <PepperBob> dutchy: i guess you have some wrong sources.list entries
[06:57] <vivi_> I fon is hungary Rur0un1
[06:57] <Rur0un1> !hun
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <vivi_> I from..
[06:57] <indref> Rur0un1, It freezes now and then. and sometimes when I switch users it stops working at all.
[06:57] <Rur0un1> !hu
[06:57] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[06:57] <PepperBob> i used
[06:57] <Mad3Max3> tried to burn the dist on a other burner.. on a other machine..
[06:57] <vivi_> tudok
[06:57] <Rur0un1> vivi_, !hu
[06:57] <PepperBob> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main
[06:57] <vivi_> mrhogy magyarul
[06:58] <PepperBob> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[06:58] <PepperBob> that should work out
[06:58] <de4dpixel> hey, does anyone know if its still posible to install ubuntu 6.06 using the non graphical installation that was used in ubuntu 5.10, without using the server install disk?
[06:58] <PepperBob> maybe you need
[06:58] <PepperBob> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[06:58] <vivi_> ubuntu igen magyarul beszlek he te tudsz az szpi
[06:58] <PepperBob> de4dpixel, this should work via the alternative installer
[06:58] <indref> Rur0un1, Any ideas?
[06:58] <jaks> de4dpixel: theres another disk, the alternative one..
[06:59] <Dot-comm> does anyone know if there is a command to get GDM to work, it crashes all the time on my comp :[
[06:59] <Rur0un1> indref, it is hard to diagnose the problem, how ever there are things you can do. The configuration file for touchpad is /etc/X11/Xorg.conf. You may like to check it out
[06:59] <PepperBob> is there a unbuntu testing branch where i can access newer packages?
[06:59] <Dot-comm> does anyone know if there is a command to get GDM to work, it crashes all the time on my comp :[
[06:59] <dutchy> PepperBob: i'll doublecheck what my sources.list looks like... the first address you gave shouldve been added by the commands on that page already
[06:59] <de4dpixel> jaks: i cant get to a burner just now, im trying to do it with the live install disk, are there any boot options I can use?
[06:59] <vivi_> uh
[06:59] <indref> Rur0un1, I've been all over that, I don't know enough to fix the problem.
[06:59] <jaks> PepperBob: you mean edgy?
[06:59] <Rur0un1> indref, also check out the log files at /var/log/Xorg.log.0 or similar places
[06:59] <indref> Rur0un1, Hmm, log files, that could work.
[07:00] <PepperBob> PepperBob, I'm not too familiar with the ubuntu versions. but edgy = testing? then yes
[07:00] <jaks> de4dpixel: not that i know of i'm afraid.
[07:00] <vivi_> The englesh is good:D
[07:00] <Rur0un1> indref, also search your hardware if it works with linux and ubuntu through , google and ubuntu forums
[07:00] <de4dpixel> ah, ok, thanks anyway
[07:00] <PepperBob> jaks,  I'm not too familiar with the ubuntu versions. but edgy = testing? then yes
[07:00] <PepperBob> :D
[07:01] <Rur0un1> PepperBob, edgy is the next release of ubuntu , is now in beta stage
[07:01] <Rur0un1> !edgy
[07:01] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:01] <indref> Rur0un1, I don't know what the hardware is.
[07:01] <PepperBob> jaks, have i just to exchange dapper with edgy?
[07:01] <PepperBob> jaks, in the sources.list?
[07:01] <jaks> PepperBob: yeah Edgy is in testing for just a few more ays though
[07:01] <jaks> *days
[07:01] <PepperBob> jaks, great thank you.
[07:01] <frying_fish> PepperBob: easiest option for upgrade is to do sudo update-manager -c -d
[07:01] <vivi_> ubuntu itt vagy mg??
[07:01] <Rur0un1> indref, what is your computers brand , dell, hp? searh like, hp touchpad ubuntu
[07:01] <frying_fish> and that should help guide you through the process much easier.
[07:02] <toc> anyone tried the ati open source drivers and aiglx here?
[07:02] <indref> Rur0un1, It's a Dell Latitude C800
[07:02] <A[D] minS> !schedule
[07:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:02] <toc> how's the performance, compared to Xgl/fglrx?
[07:02] <Mad3Max3> im downloadning edgy as we speak.. I hope it will boot.., since dapper didn't
[07:02] <jaks> !schedule
[07:02] <vivi_> ubuntu tudsz magyarul??
[07:03] <indref> Rur0un1, "Duplicate core pointer devices.  Removing core pointer attribute from "Syn$"
[07:03] <CripperZ> hie
[07:03] <CripperZ> does anyone here runs vps on ubuntu ?
[07:03] <Psychobudgie> got edgy running here with Beryl on nVidia AIGLX
[07:03] <PepperBob> frying_fish, what invokes -c and -d ?
[07:03] <Rur0un1> indref, search this in google and ubuntu forums
[07:03] <indref> Rur0un1, I got nothing.
[07:03] <Psychobudgie> was painless getting it running
[07:03] <frying_fish> PepperBob: -c -d is the "show the latest development version and allow me to use it" option
[07:03] <Dot-comm> does anyone know the command to get GDM to start
[07:03] <dutchy> PepperBob: with even kde-lastest added it still returns that error, do you have any other ideas?
[07:03] <vivi_> ubuntu:do you speak haungary?
[07:03] <Dot-comm> does anyone know the command to get GDM to start
[07:04] <frying_fish> Dot-comm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:04] <Dot-comm> does anyone know the command to get GDM to start
[07:04] <jaks> vivi_
[07:04] <jaks> !hu
[07:04] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[07:04] <Dot-comm> ty
[07:04] <boggle> Dot-comm: init 5?
[07:04] <frying_fish> Dot-comm: stop spamming.
[07:04] <PepperBob> dutchy, what version are you using?
[07:04] <Rur0un1> indref, just search "Duplicate core pointer devices" in google and you get something
[07:04] <Dot-comm> dapper
[07:04] <indref> Rur0un1, I get something, eh?
[07:04] <PepperBob> frying_fish, thx
[07:04] <vivi_> yes i !hu jaks
[07:04] <frying_fish> Dot-comm: you have to allow time for people to answer.
[07:04] <Dot-comm> sorry
[07:04] <frying_fish> PepperBob: you're welcome
[07:04] <Dot-comm> :[
[07:04] <vivi_> :D
[07:04] <Dot-comm> k im goin
[07:04] <jaks> vivi_ type /join #ubuntu-hu
[07:04] <Genix> when i try to log into ubuntu it just gives me an error and then goes back to the login screen
[07:04] <Genix> but it goes too quick for me to read it
[07:04] <PepperBob> dutchy, what ubuntu version?
[07:05] <Genix> is there a log i can read?
[07:05] <dutchy> PepperBob: dapper
[07:05] <vivi_> I sorry , becausa i don't speak english
[07:05] <wes_> what's the most straightforward way to get perl on ubuntu (6.06) with ithreads enabled?
[07:05] <vivi_>  I sorry , becausei don't speak english
[07:05] <vivi_>  I sorry , because  don't speak english jaks
[07:05] <Rur0un1> indref, frankly I don't think that line is correlated with the problem
[07:06] <indref> Rur0un1, And why not.
[07:06] <Rur0un1> indref, just an instinct
[07:06] <jaks> --> #ubuntu-hu <--
[07:06] <PerhamX> hello guys
[07:06] <PepperBob> dutch what is it saying when you try
[07:06] <PepperBob> apt-cache showpkg libvisual
[07:06] <Genix> anyone?
[07:06] <PerhamX> how can i play my dvds on ubuntu?
[07:06] <grizzmock> a linux dau is trieing to install a VNC Server on Xubuntu....cann somebody help pls?
[07:06] <Rur0un1> indref, probably there is some misconfiguration in the Xorg.conf
[07:06] <misternyiherre> I am having som problems with my wlancard, can't seem to find the router(on ubuntu dapper) but obviously it works on windows(this mashine), anyone who may know howcome?
[07:06] <PerhamX> this is not active by default
[07:06] <vivi_> jaks: I don't take you
[07:07] <Rur0un1> indref, paste your Xorg.conf to pastebin and let me check
[07:07] <indref> Rur0un1, Ok, just a sec.
[07:07] <PepperBob> dutchy, i guess it isn't telling about a version >= 0.4.0
[07:07] <grizzmock> can i install the gnome VNC Server (vino) on Xubuntu?
[07:07] <frying_fish> PerhamX: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:07] <PepperBob> dutchy, sorry to ask that: but you did an apt-get update after changing sources.list?
[07:08] <PerhamX> and what about mp3?
[07:08] <farruinn> Genix: There might be in /var/log/gdm
[07:08] <dutchy> PepperBob: i did
[07:08] <frying_fish> PerhamX: then sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[07:08] <Genix> hmm
[07:08] <Rur0un1> PerhamX, I strongly recommend you the Automatix project, search it in the google
[07:08] <frying_fish> and for mp3, vlc will play them, or you can use xmms
[07:08] <PepperBob> dutchy, is showpkg saying something about the depending version?
[07:08] <Genix> what could be causing this problem though?
[07:08] <vivi_> valaki beszl magyarul?
[07:09] <Dot-comm> i lost the GDM thing what was it
[07:09] <dutchy> PepperBob: showpkg amarok ?
[07:09] <Dot-comm> yo fish fry
[07:09] <Dot-comm> what was the GDM command again
[07:09] <grizzmock> stupid question: if i installed the VNC Server "Vino" where can i start / configure it?
[07:09] <PerhamX> Rur0un1: and what exacly is it?
[07:09] <PepperBob> dutchy, apt-cache showpkg libvisual
[07:10] <frying_fish> Dot-comm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:10] <farruinn> Genix: The most common reason I've known gdm to fail login is ~/.ICEauthority has bad permissions from doing stuff as root.
[07:10] <farruinn> Genix: That is a complete guess though, not necessarily your problem.
[07:10] <Genix> how would i fix that?
[07:10] <PepperBob> dutchy, mh.. it can't find it on my system... ?-/
[07:10] <NetVamp> Hi, I'm right in the middle of installing the Ubuntu Server CD and I'm stuck at the HDD Partition stuff, I do have hda, hdb and hdd (hdc is a CDRom). HDA 20gig should become 3 partitions, one 8gb ext3 for root, one 2gb for a swap partition and 10gb for data. But I seem to be unable to create more than one partition on it
[07:10] <Genix> if that was the problem
[07:10] <Rur0un1> PerhamX, it is an automatic installer for ubuntu via gui, that it installs everything you need including DVD mp3 support very easily
[07:10] <PerhamX> how can i enable root account on my ubuntu. i am a home user
[07:10] <indref> Rur0un1, Just a sec..
[07:10] <Rur0un1> PerhamX, don't do it, just use sudo
[07:10] <farruinn> Genix: do 'ls -l ~/.ICEauthority' to see if root owns it.
[07:11] <PepperBob> ah, it's called libvisual-0.4-0
[07:11] <NetVamp> if I hit enter on the unused space all I get is Show cylinder/head/sector ... information
[07:11] <PepperBob> dutchy, sorry for the confusion.. pls try apt-cache showpkg libvisual-0.4-0
[07:11] <Genix> farruinn:  and if root doesn't own it?
[07:12] <farruinn> Genix: Then it's not a problem
[07:12] <umo> I'm installing wlancar on ubuntu, but make all function fails (no such file...)
[07:12] <Genix> oh
[07:12] <Genix> but if root owns it that's bad?
[07:12] <vivi_> Who speak hungary  here?
[07:12] <dutchy> PepperBob: yeah that returns the package... im guessing i have to install it seperate and then try amarok again?
[07:13] <farruinn> Genix: yes. There weren't any errors in the logs under /var/log/gdm?
[07:13] <PepperBob> dutchy, it think this is blocked by some other packe
[07:13] <PepperBob> package
[07:13] <Genix> farruinn: i'm not on linux right now
[07:13] <Genix> trying to see if i can access the hd from osx
[07:13] <PepperBob> dutchy, does the output saying something about which packages are blocking this one?
[07:13] <Zaggynl> I'm unable to get my monitor use any other refresh rate then 75hz, I tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg' but 'gnome-display-propertie' only lists 75hz
[07:14] <farruinn> Genix: oh, do you have that extfs kernel extension for os x?
[07:14] <Genix> i just got some program going to see if it works
[07:14] <PerhamX> but sudo makes me type so much more when i want to excute many commands as super user
[07:14] <umo> I'm installing wlancar on ubuntu, but make all function fails (no such file...) help anyone?
[07:14] <Genix> i will search for that extension
[07:14] <Genix> guess i need to restart for it to work
[07:14] <dutchy> PepperBob: it returns an empty 'Versions:' part and Reverse Depends: amarok,libvisual-0.4-0 0.4.0
[07:14] <Genix> so brb
[07:14] <dutchy> and some other empty n/a stuff
[07:15] <lolkaare> I've installed TeamSpeak, but I cant get the microphone to work in it, it works perfectly fine in Skype... Anyone can help?
[07:15] <grizzmock> can somebody explain me how to install a vnc server on Xubuntu? (used the package manager and installed "vnc-common" , but dont know where to start/configure :( )
[07:16] <kupesoft> is there a good fax server for linux that windows clients can use?
[07:16] <PepperBob> dutchy, libvisual-0.4.0 depends on libc6
[07:16] <PerhamX> Rur0un1: is there any simple way to do that?
[07:17] <PepperBob> dutchy, can you please check if you have libc6 installed?
[07:17] <Genix> hmm
[07:17] <boink> kupesoft: hylafax
[07:17] <dutchy> PepperBob: will do.. btw trying to install libvisual gives Package libvisual-0.4-0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:17] <dutchy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:17] <pike_> grizzmock: i normally just apt-get vnc-server then run the command vncpasswd to create a password then run vncserver :02   the :02  can be whatever  then to connect to it vncclient ipaddress:02
[07:17] <dutchy> is only available from another source
[07:17] <boink> but it's not the easiest to setup, but it does work quite well
[07:17] <dutchy> E: Package libvisual-0.4-0 has no installation candidate
[07:18] <PepperBob> dutchy, can you please post you sources.list to some flood place?
[07:18] <pike_> grizzmock: vncviewer ipaddress:02 i mean
[07:18] <dutchy> PepperBob: k, sec
[07:18] <Genix> if i install kde or xfce will beryl and stuff still work?
[07:19] <Zemyla> I have a question. I'm trying to compile SoXt, but it says I need Motif. Is there a Motif-compatible library I can apt-get?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> i thought there was some free variants of it..
[07:19] <Dr_willis> but thats been ages ago since i last looked into that.
[07:19] <ianmacgregor> Zemyla: There is one in the repos, don't remember the name. Maybe do a search in Synaptic for "motif"
[07:21] <indref> Ok I'm back can I fix my damn mouse now? :D
[07:21] <dutchy> PepperBob: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7CkyAx49.html
[07:21] <nolimitsoya> indref, whats wrong?
[07:21] <indref> nolimitsoya, My touchpad is rather unreliable.
[07:22] <PepperBob> dutchy, ok.. sec
[07:22] <Gwildor> jumpy skippy mp3's.....known fix??
[07:22] <nolimitsoya> indref, in what way?
[07:22] <grizzmock> my ubuntu can't find vnc-server ("sudo install vnc-sever")
[07:22] <indref> nolimitsoya, It freezes for a certain account, and it commonly cuts out for a sec or two.
[07:22] <jturek> does anybody have an xorg.conf for a Dell D610 using Xinerama with a docking station and a 17in flatpanel?
[07:23] <nolimitsoya> grizzmock, try synaptic
[07:23] <grizzmock> i have installed a package called "vnc-common"
[07:23] <nolimitsoya> indref, sure its not a hardwareproblem?
[07:23] <pike_> grizzmock: sorry its sudo apt-get install vncserver
[07:23] <indref> nolimitsoya, I have no idea what the hell it is. It worked fine a week ago under windows.
[07:24] <PepperBob> dutchy, the only difference to my apt list is the backporst
[07:24] <PepperBob> backports
[07:24] <Zemyla> Also, this is fun. I've got my Ubuntu VM filtered through Privoxy and (presumably) Tor, though I can't check the second part easily.
[07:24] <PepperBob> enable the backports, apt-get update and try again
[07:24] <umo> why does make all fail for me??
[07:24] <grizzmock> mh he can't find "vpnserver" :(
[07:24] <Zemyla> Hey cool, it is actually working!
[07:24] <pike_> grizzmock: vncserver
[07:25] <dutchy> PepperBob: enlighten me about enabling backports :)
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> dutchy, sources in synaptic
[07:25] <PepperBob> dutchy, that's the two commented lines in your sources.list (line 25,26)
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> tick the box (if using edgy)
[07:26] <Anybody> goodnight everyone,have fun with ubuntu!!
[07:26] <grizzmock> dont know the englisch expression, no installcandidate?
[07:26] <kyja> how can I get bluetooth working on bcm4306 ?
[07:26] <indref> nolimitsoya, I have a pastebin of my xorg.conf if you'd like.
[07:27] <pike_> grizzmock: im showing it in the universe repository it is possible you need to enable this in synaptic
[07:27] <PepperBob> dutchy, got it?
[07:27] <dutchy> PepperBob: suddenly it seems to work... rather strange imo :)
[07:27] <pike_> !repository > grizzmock
[07:27] <Phinite> I'm having a problem installing libxml-perl via apt.  I'm getting errors that I don't know how to deal with.  it installs fine on one box, but not on another.  what information can I give to make this make sense to you?
[07:27] <dutchy> anyway, thanks PepperBob
[07:27] <grizzmock> i have used synaptic und searched for vnc, installed "vnc-common" and "vino" (although the comment was, that it is von gnome desktops)
[07:28] <PepperBob> dutchy, that is because those packages are not in the actual release but are backported
[07:28] <J03> anyone familiar with EVMS?  when i go to Action > Create > Container, nothing shows up to select from
[07:28] <J03> trying to make a raid5 array.
[07:28] <pike_> grizzmock: it will not show up in synaptic until the other repository is enabled
[07:28] <PepperBob> dutchy, or do you mean it's works without enabled backports?
[07:28] <dutchy> ok btw, just to show off: >>> Fetched 43.3MB in 6s (6936kB/s) <<<
[07:28] <dutchy> PepperBob: with them enabled
[07:29] <PepperBob> dutchy, ah!
[07:29] <PepperBob> dutchy, good. :)
[07:29] <PepperBob> dutchy, have fun
[07:29] <Phinite> actually, now even an apt-get dist-upgrade is failing indicating that other packages are screwed.  is there somewhere I can paste this for people to see?
[07:29] <J03> i must have screwed up somewhere
[07:29] <pike_> grizzmock: settings --> repositories in synaptic
[07:29] <J03> i'm sure of it
[07:29] <Zemyla> Hmm.  Then this means that I need to download and compile LessTif.
[07:29] <Ninja562> OK, hoary to breezy went fine, now breezy to dapper is running
[07:30] <indref> Seriously people I can't use Ubuntu without a mouse, helplz?
[07:30] <ZiRo> would anyone agree that learning C in a linux environment would greatly enhance my linux experiance?
[07:30] <pike_> indref: alt-ctrl-f1 then login then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   might work
[07:30] <Ninja562> Ziro yes
[07:30] <indref> ZiRo, It would probably enhance your computer experience.
[07:31] <LjL> ZiRo: no, but i agree that it would enhance your programming experience :) but this is offtopic, you can bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you like
[07:31] <talisein> indref: unplug and plugin your mouse?
[07:31] <indref> pike_, That would kill my nvidia set  up.
[07:31] <indref> talisein, It's a touchpad, my bad.
[07:31] <ZiRo> LjL, it's not offtopic, it's going somewhere
[07:31] <talisein> oh
[07:31] <talisein> did the touchpad work before?
[07:31] <indref> talisein, In windows, yes.
[07:31] <jachyra> hi all, i've added a module to /etc/module - I was wondering what directories Linux searches to find this module?
[07:31] <J03> noone has any EVMS experience?
[07:32] <POVaddct> ZiRo: it would enhance your ability to work with the shell, and using commands such as make, gcc and ld
[07:32] <talisein> from the command line "grep synaptic /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:32] <talisein> J03: I do
[07:32] <LjL> ZiRo: well, it doesn't sound like a Ubuntu support question -- but anyway, the main reason i said that is that if you want to discuss that sort of topic, you're simply likely to find more responses on -offtopic
[07:32] <talisein> J03: let me check what my EVMS looks like ;)
[07:32] <indref> talisein, Will that change the files?
[07:32] <J03> haha, ok
[07:32] <talisein> indref: np
[07:32] <talisein> indref: no
[07:32] <pike_> jachyra: lib/modules/blah i believe
[07:32] <J03> what do you have to do to get it running to start with?  all i did was install the evmsgui through synaptic and then typed evmsgui in terminal
[07:33] <carthik> I added a line "gtk-button-images=0" to my ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file. Do I need to logout and login for this to take effect?
[07:33] <indref> talisein,    Load    "synaptics"
[07:33] <indref>         Driver          "synaptics"
[07:33] <Ninja562> So, what fun do I have to look foreward to with Dapper?
[07:33] <jachyra> pike_: thanks a bunch
[07:33] <crooksey> Ninja562, to much for some to handle!
[07:33] <talisein> indref: hmmmmm. And it doesn't work? Take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:33] <J03> talisein, do i need to put sysfs in the fstab?
[07:33] <Ninja562> In what way?
[07:33] <indref> talisein, What am I looking for in there, that's a big file.
[07:33] <crooksey> Ease of use, simplicty, documentation and package availility
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> Ninja562: Possibly take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes?
[07:34] <ZiRo> i've tried linux a few times, red hat in '99 (rubbish experiance with it, i didn't find the pair of eyes that followed the cursor any use), and ubuntu when they first started the free live cd's..
[07:34] <talisein> indref: do a text search for synaptic. Also: any lines that start with (EE)
[07:34] <Phinite> this is the error that I'm getting http://pastebin.com/807745
[07:34] <Ninja562> tonyyaruso: OK goin there now
[07:34] <indref> talisein, Ok, just a sec.
[07:34] <crooksey> ATI big desktop, is o nice on 19" LCD, i get so much space!
[07:35] <LjL> ZiRo: you're *dissing the eyes*?! get out of here! :D
[07:35] <talisein> J03: sysfs should be created on its own
[07:35] <grizzmock> pike_ : it works :)) get the connection, but i doesn't see anything (using on my windows machine UltraVNC Viewer )
[07:35] <indref> talisein, Some (EE)s on wacom errors.
[07:35] <POVaddct> ZiRo: just because you dislike xeyes, you drop a whole distro?
[07:35] <talisein> indref: what I did was format the hard drives as LVM2
[07:35] <J03> talisein, it's not in my fstab.  just wondering if it needs to be because the EVMS guide says it does
[07:36] <ZiRo> ubuntu amazed me in comparison to my red hat experiance, but i still found little use for it, i mean, i'd manage with it if windows suddenly died and never came back but the only way i can really be interested in using it is as a server, learning c or doing something i cant do in windows if you understand where i'm coming from
[07:36] <talisein> indref: and then those show up as containers
[07:36] <talisein> J03: its not in my fstab either
[07:36] <indref> talisein, What?
[07:36] <talisein> indref: sorry, mistell
[07:36] <indref> talisein, Ah.
[07:36] <J03> ok
[07:36] <crooksey> I love debain, and ubuntu is perfect as a desktop
[07:36] <crooksey> Everything is done for me
[07:36] <J03> and when you go to Action > Create > Container in evmsgui, does anything show up in teh box?
[07:37] <talisein> indref: does it say the synaptic driver loads okay? wacom is a tablet driver
[07:37] <LjL> ZiRo, if you actually want to be able to troubleshoot Linux problems, the things you should probably learn are more like shell scripting, the /etc/init.d startup system, runlevels, apt (in the case of Ubuntu) etc, rather than C
[07:37] <ZiRo> the reason i'm here is because i've got a box sitting beside me shy of an OS, and i'm looking for inspiration for uses
[07:37] <LjL> ZiRo: you rarely actually need C unless you, well, want to write a program in C
[07:37] <indref> talisein, There are quite a few Synaptics DeviceOff called and Synaptics DeviceOn called lines.
[07:37] <talisein> J03: no, stuff only shows up if there is something available. The thing you're trying to add isn't mounted anywhere right?
[07:37] <crooksey> Ziro, thought of debain 3.1?
[07:37] <ZiRo> LjL, i understand that, but it's something i've never got round to
[07:37] <J03> probably right
[07:37] <talisein> indref: what brand laptop?
[07:38] <notwist> I have an SMB share active.. my xbox can see it fine, but when i try to browse \\myip with a laptop it asks for auth :( whyy
[07:38] <indref> talisein, Dell Latitude C800
[07:38] <ZiRo> crooksey, honestly, no...
[07:38] <ZiRo> i felt ubuntu was the easy way into linux when conducting research
[07:38] <crooksey> ZiRo, its great as  a server or a desktop
[07:39] <talisein> indref: lol, google turns up your forum post from 2 weeks ago. Weird that no one answered ><
[07:39] <indref> talisein, No, it's not weird at all.
[07:39] <zachpruckowski> silly question when someone gets a chance - does anyone know what kernel Edgy's RC and/or final version has?
[07:39] <indref> talisein, It's a big forum.
[07:39] <Russel> hiho
[07:39] <Russel> will there be a software support jingle out of the box in edgy?
[07:39] <crooksey> 2.6.17, i think
[07:39] <talisein> oh, it works sometimes?
[07:39] <Ninja562> ZiRo: I wouldn't go so far as to say "easy", but that was my assesment as well
[07:39] <LjL> ZiRo, though of building your own Linux system, using something like linux from scratch, or just trial and error? if you just want to learn, rather than have a daily-work-usable system, that certainly can help.
[07:39] <SuperMiguel> which is a good mail server?
[07:39] <ZiRo> i find the world of linux incredibly hard to penetrate mostly due to the fact that MANY tutorials/guides/howtos exist that tell you to do this and that, but don't explain what it is actually doing
[07:40] <zachpruckowski> Darn.  Apparently I need 2.16.19 for a driver for my Mac Pro.  Is there a slipstreaming system?
[07:40] <talisein> J03: if you can't figure out EVMS I can tell you how to use mdadm to make your raid
[07:40] <tweakism> SuperMiguel: Postfix is nice.
[07:40] <indref> ZiRo, I agree.
[07:40] <crooksey> ZiRo, you will like Gentoo or Arch
[07:40] <SuperMiguel> twekism do you use it?
[07:40] <infidel> i want to make a script that opens an xterm names it and changes to a certain directory, i have the open and name pert but how can i make is cd to a certain directory
[07:40] <J03> yeah i guess there's no hope for idiot savants such as myself
[07:40] <ZiRo> crooksey, but not ubuntu?
[07:41] <J03> i didnt know the disks had to be mounted first
[07:41] <J03> i'm playing withit
[07:41] <LjL> ZiRo, then ask here (or in #ubuntu-offtopic). i, for one, would be very glad of explaining what something is doing rather than just how it's done (well, if it's something i know anything about of course, that is) -- that's something most people actually *don't* want to hear on here
[07:41] <crooksey> ZiRo, if you want to get more from Linux, ubuntu isnt the distro
[07:41] <indref> talisein, Any ideas so far?
[07:41] <tweakism> ZiRo: Documentation is a very importnt aspect of program distributions, but tinkering programmers don't like to spend time on it.. in a world w/o paid, professional technical writers, inadequate documentation is par for the course.  you get what you pay for, but you're right, it's a big hold back.
[07:41] <Ninja562> Rats, this update is takeing forever
[07:41] <crooksey> Its a great windows replacement, but for learning i wouldnt
[07:41] <talisein> indref: the ZSNES screen blanking issue is due to the program not communicating to the x server that it should block the screensaver.
[07:42] <indref> Ubuntu replaced WinXp for me rather nicely.
[07:42] <indref> talisein, I don't have a screensaver.
[07:42] <talisein> gnome-screensaver is installed automatically
[07:42] <talisein> I think
[07:42] <indref> talisein, I turned it off.
[07:42] <ircnewb> Greetings!
[07:42] <talisein> ooooh, and it still turns blank?
[07:42] <indref> talisein, Yes.
[07:43] <talisein> i imagine you are using a gamepad?
[07:43] <crooksey> ircnewb, hey
[07:43] <indref> talisein, Still, I need my touchpad, it's a more pressing issue.
[07:43] <Jupp> hello
[07:43] <talisein> as for the touchpad I think its a hardware issue, unless those Unload and Load statements repeat a lot at the very end of the Xorg log file
[07:43] <richiefrich> indref  is this in your    /etc/X11/xorg.conf-->     Option      "dpms"
[07:43] <ircnewb> Hello, I just installed ubuntu and I installed my ati drivers. But for some reason my resoultion won't go higher than 640x480. Is there anyone way to fix this?
[07:43] <ZiRo> thanks for your comments, anything i will say now will be in the OT channel
[07:43] <Jupp> i need some help
[07:44] <Jupp> i use ubuntu 6.10
[07:44] <crooksey> oh god
[07:44] <Jupp> now i have an error
[07:44] <indref> richiefrich, (II) Loading extension DPMS
[07:44] <Jupp> with apt-get
[07:44] <Jupp> Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[07:44] <richiefrich> indref thats why it goes black
[07:44] <Alakazamz0r> Setting up kubuntu-desktop (1.21) ...
[07:44] <Alakazamz0r> Running prelink, please wait...
[07:44] <Alakazamz0r> MAD w00tish
[07:45] <Jupp> i search for /etc/apt/apt.conf
[07:45] <gothenburg> ser jag era
[07:45] <gothenburg> >.<
[07:45] <indref> richiefrich, Why.
[07:45] <gothenburg> wrong channel
[07:45] <talisein> Jupp: run 'top', then hit '>' and see if something is using a lot of memory?
[07:45] <richiefrich> indref thats what that does
[07:45] <talisein> indref: DPMS is the Dynamic Power Management System
[07:45] <indref> talisein, There must be twenty or more different references to synaptic all through my Xorg.0.log file.
[07:46] <indref> richiefrich, Should I kill it or what.
[07:46] <Jupp> memoriy is ok
[07:46] <tp_> how to mount my ipod?
[07:46] <Zerb_Riss> Does anyone have any spare official Hoary CDs?
[07:46] <talisein> at the end of the file?
[07:46] <tp_> i got "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde"
[07:46] <richiefrich> indref if you dont want it then remove the  line from xorg.conf
[07:46] <talisein> do any of those synaptic lines start with (WW)?
[07:46] <indref> richiefrich, I don't want my machine to overheat.
[07:46] <Jupp> i know this error, i have to change apt-cache size
[07:47] <Jupp> in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[07:47] <ircnewb> How do I get a higher resoultion of 640x480 on Drapper Drake, after I have installed the offical ATI drivers.
[07:47] <ircnewb> ?
[07:47] <Jupp> bit in 6.10 ther is no /etc/apt/apt.conf
[07:47] <richiefrich> indref whats this have to do with the computer?
[07:47] <LjL> ircnewb: you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:47] <kmaynard> ircnewb, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:47] <gothenburg> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[07:47] <ircnewb> Thanks
[07:47] <kmaynard> JINX
[07:47] <crooksey> ircnewb, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:47] <gothenburg> :p
[07:47] <kmaynard> you ppl owe me cokes
[07:47] <richiefrich> indref that makes the  "montior" go black
[07:47] <indref> talisein, (WW) Duplicate core pointer devices.  Removing core pointer attribute from "Synaptics Touchpad"
[07:47] <oiad> do btdownloadgui.bittornado and btdownloadheadless.bittornado use the same configuration?
[07:48] <crooksey> And add the resoloutions in the relavent section
[07:48] <J03> ok i got evms somewhat figured out now.  now to figure out how to make a raid5 array on it
[07:48] <ircnewb> Last time I edited xorg.conf, bad things happened, I had to reinstall :-(
[07:48] <kmaynard> J03, i did raid 1 with the server installer
[07:48] <ircnewb> I was trying to install Xgl
[07:48] <J03> yeah but i need to be able to expand the array
[07:48] <crooksey> ircnewb, ill give you all the commands you need, without editing then
[07:48] <talisein> hmm
[07:49] <J03> EVMS allows you to expand arrays.  i dont think LVM or anything does really
[07:49] <kmaynard> J03, use the installer to get it running then expand as you need
[07:49] <indref> talisein, I think that is it.
[07:49] <Jupp> anyone know my problem too?
[07:49] <LjL> ircnewb: you only "had to reinstall" because you didn't know how to restore it -- or rather, because you neglected to make a backup.
[07:49] <talisein> try dpkg-reconfigure yourself
[07:49] <J03> kmaynard, yeah i could probably do that, but EVMS supports creating the array.  i'd rather figure out how to do it with that
[07:49] <LjL> ircnewb: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" makes a backup for you, by the way.
[07:49] <raintheory> ircnewb: yeah just back it up before messing with it
[07:49] <crooksey> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) --then -- sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx --then -- sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=X --then reboot
[07:49] <ircnewb> Okay
[07:49] <talisein> then take a look at the new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and search for CorePointer and see how many tehre are.
[07:49] <kmaynard> J03, so be it )
[07:50] <J03> it's the terminology that gets me.  not sure if i need to make a container, feature object, region, etc
[07:50] <kmaynard> :) even
[07:50] <indref> talisein, Please tab me I'm having trouble following this channel.
[07:50] <raintheory> so does anyone here think they can help me get S-Video working?
[07:50] <kupesoft> why is postfix required for hylafax?
[07:50] <talisein> indref: try dpkg-reconfigure yourself, then take a look at the new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see how many CorePointers there are. If more than one, comment the others beside the touchpad out
[07:51] <talisein> J03: LVM lets you resize your arrays, but yeah, its an unneeded level of abstraction
[07:51] <ircnewb> How do you restart x server without rebooting?
[07:51] <LjL> ircnewb: ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:51] <raintheory> ircnewb: ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:51] <indref> talisein, I use a mouse from time to time, wouldn't that kill my ability to do that?
[07:51] <daniel_hoover> u can restart xorg without reboot by sending Ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:51] <ircnewb> Thanks :-)
[07:51] <kmaynard>  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:52] <talisein> J03: I think raids are "Regions"
[07:52] <xav> ircnewb, you should log out before doing that
[07:52] <J03> ok thanks
[07:52] <LjL> kmaynard, ircnewb: yes, but don't do that from inside a X terminal
[07:52] <ircnewb> Okay
[07:52] <indref> talisein, I think I have my mouse and my touchpad both as core pointers..
[07:52] <talisein> indref: no, I don't think so
[07:52] <xav> ircnewb, kmaynard way should work too
[07:52] <J03> yes you're right talisein
[07:52] <Zemyla> Hmm.  What would I have to do to add LessTif to the list of packages that can be apt-gotten?
[07:52] <indref> talisein, My xorg.conf : http://pastebin.com/807738
[07:53] <kmaynard> what is lesstif
[07:53] <talisein> loading.. ><
[07:53] <indref> Pastebin is sucky lately.
[07:53] <xav> yep
[07:53] <LjL> !info lesstif-bin
[07:53] <ubotu> lesstif-bin: user binaries for LessTif. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.94.4-1 (dapper), package size 159 kB, installed size 432 kB
[07:53] <raintheory> no takers on the S-Video thing?
[07:53] <LjL> Zemyla: ^
[07:53] <talisein> raintheory: what sort of videocard do you ahve, and which drivers are you using?
[07:54] <indref> ubotu, You need to be more verbose.
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about You need to be more verbose. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <indref> Noob.
[07:54] <xav> true
[07:54] <Zemyla> E: Couldn't find package: lesstif-bin
[07:54] <raintheory> using nVidia GeForce FXgo 5100
[07:54] <talisein> still loading
[07:54] <LjL> Zemyla: then you probably don't have Universe enabled.
[07:54] <LjL> !universe > Zemyla
[07:54] <talisein> raintheory: you want to use SVideo as a TVOut?
[07:54] <Zemyla> How do I enable universe?
[07:54] <raintheory> how do i check the drivers for it?   I have XGL/Beryl installed if that helps
[07:55] <LjL> Zemyla: follow the instructions from the bot
[07:55] <raintheory> on dapper btw
[07:55] <talisein> raintheory: you probably have the proprietary nvidia drivers
[07:55] <raintheory> yes S-Video as TV out
[07:55] <talisein> raintheory: you want to watch movies on the tv?
[07:55] <raintheory> talisein: yep
[07:55] <fowlduck> is it wise to remove the deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives???
[07:55] <fowlduck> or is it unwise?
[07:55] <talisein> raintheory: here's the thing, I have the same setup, but I have to keep the desktop at the same resolution as the tv (1024x768)
[07:55] <Jupp> where can i change apt-cache size in 6.10?
[07:56] <LjL> fowlduck: what about "apt-get clean"?
[07:56] <cherubiel> fowlduck: apt-get clean
[07:56] <SuperMiguel> which ip is my gateway address?
[07:56] <LjL> SuperMiguel: the router's IP, if you have a router
[07:56] <raintheory> eww.   1024x768 looks kinda funny on this laptop
[07:56] <talisein> indref: it loaded
[07:56] <indref> talisein, Finally.
[07:56] <fowlduck> yeah, that directory is loaded
[07:57] <J03> what the heck is version 1 super block?
[07:57] <ajopaul_> how to send/recieve files to nokia 6630 using usb cable ?
[07:57] <talisein> indref: this is the version that gives the corepointer errors?
[07:57] <indref> talisein, Yup.
[07:57] <talisein> J03: ? Are you using xfs?
[07:58] <indref> talisein, I have more than one Xorg.something.log files.
[07:58] <J03> i wasnt planning on it
[07:58] <talisein> indref: are you using xgl?
[07:58] <J03> i dont know what file system i need to use really
[07:58] <raintheory> so do I have to edit my xorg.conf and add the TV out?
[07:58] <indref> talisein, What is that.
[07:58] <LjL> !tvout > raintheory
[07:59] <J03> talisein, what file system would you suggest for software raid5?  my goal is to expand the array later
[07:59] <talisein> raintheory: yeah, what you want to do is use TwinView (I think) and set the mode to Clone
[07:59] <SuperMiguel> localhost.localdomain localhost what is that mean?
[07:59] <talisein> raintheory: you probably also want to do a ConnectedMonitor "DFP, TV" to force svideo out.
[07:59] <LjL> SuperMiguel: it's the standard internal hostname for your computer. leave it as it is.
[07:59] <talisein> indref: xgl is like a Not-XServer xserver thing. nevermind :)
[07:59] <Zemyla> Okay, I edited the sources.list file, and am apt-get updating.
[08:00] <SuperMiguel> what about server1.example.com
[08:00] <talisein> indref: I'd comment out the stylus, cursor, and eraser entries in Section ServerLayout
[08:00] <indref> talisein, So, any ideas so far?
[08:00] <indref> talisein, How do I do that.
[08:01] <talisein> indref: and delete the CorePointer thing after the synaptics touchpad
[08:01] <LjL> SuperMiguel: an example hostname i suppose...? what are you doing, and what are you trying to accomplish?
[08:01] <talisein> indref: just put a # at the beginning of the line
[08:01] <indref> talisein, brb phone
[08:01] <SuperMiguel> edit my /etc/hosts
[08:01] <SuperMiguel> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3
[08:01] <talisein> J03: matters what sort of files you intend to put on
[08:01] <raintheory> talisein: are you on dapper or edgy?
[08:01] <SuperMiguel> LjL: go to the 5th step
[08:02] <SuperMiguel> part 2 where is says then edit /etc/hosts
[08:02] <talisein> raintheory: I have 3 computers, but the TV computer is running gentoo. ;)
[08:02] <raintheory> ahh okay
[08:03] <J03> talisein, it will be all sizes/types of files
[08:03] <talisein> raintheory: I think I pulled my xorg.conf from a google on TV-Out nvidia
[08:03] <J03> it'll namely be a backup server, but also large file storage for videos and stuff
[08:03] <LjL> SuperMiguel: i think you only want such a line (well, perhaps without calling the server "example") if you want to give a name to another machine on your network.
[08:03] <talisein> J03: I'd stick with ext3. As for expanding later, you mean add more drives to the raid?
[08:03] <J03> yeah
[08:03] <LjL> SuperMiguel: the IP address of said machine being, in that example, 192.168.0.100
[08:03] <raintheory> talsein: thanks, thats what i was just doing ;)
[08:03] <J03> i see that JFS allows you to expand while it's online, but that doesnt really matter
[08:03] <talisein> J03: I run a raid1, so I don't know if you need to use LVM for that or not
[08:03] <J03> EVMS will expand the raid5 array
[08:04] <SuperMiguel> LjL: so i ahve a no-ip host can i put it there
[08:04] <SuperMiguel> like xxx.no-ip.info
[08:04] <NaVaJo> scusate, dove posso trovare le iso di Mubuntu video ?
[08:04] <talisein> J03: ok. did you deal with the version 1 superblock thing?
[08:04] <SuperMiguel> the ip i changed
[08:04] <elfranger> hello
[08:04] <edju> Can't administer a printer through CUPS - won't accept any password, user or root.  Any clue for the clueless appreciated.
[08:05] <LjL> SuperMiguel: no, if you have already registered a hostname for your host, it'll just be fetched by the DNS system, you don't need to add it to /etc/hosts.
[08:05] <J03> talisein, i left it default as off
[08:05] <elfranger> I am struggeling with proftpd. Using the proftpd.conf that came with the install, but I get Connection closed by remote host no matter what I try...
[08:05] <J03> no clue what it does still though
[08:05] <LjL> SuperMiguel: you only need to if you want it to have an *internal* name on your own machine
[08:05] <pike_> edju: if you type groups does it show you a member of lpadmin?
[08:05] <talisein> J03: ok I guess. ;)
[08:05] <Zemyla> Hmm.  Do you have any tips for helping me remember to type sudo in front of apt-get?  Because I always forget to do that.
[08:05] <SuperMiguel> ok
[08:05] <edju> pielgrzym_, I'll check.
[08:06] <LjL> Zemyla: make an alias, if that really bugs you.
[08:06] <talisein> Zemyla: slap yourself when you get the Are you root? error
[08:06] <edju> pike_, yes, it does.
[08:06] <talisein> Zemyla: alternitively use synaptic, which will prompt for a password
[08:06] <J-_> is there a difference between abiword, and the openoffice word processor?
[08:06] <talisein> YES
[08:07] <elfranger> Can't sudo su be used?
[08:07] <talisein> abiword is like 8 megabytes, openoffice is like 80
[08:07] <J03> talisein, i must say you're a marvel of multitasking and linux knowledge.  thanks for the help
[08:07] <LjL> J-_: uh, yes, namely they're two totally different programs. the point they do have in common is that they're both word processors.
[08:07] <talisein> J03: i try :)
[08:08] <ppj1010> i'm getting a no screens error all the sudden w/xorg
[08:08] <talisein> does abiword in edgy use the open document format yet?
[08:08] <ppj1010> ran the config 50 times
[08:08] <indref> talisein, Ok back, where were we?
[08:08] <ppj1010> it seems like its only finding my onboard video card now, which subsequently is bad, not my voodoo3
[08:08] <ppj1010> any suggestions?
[08:09] <deltab> Zemyla: attach http://xkcd.com/c149.html to your monitor
[08:09] <kjm> Does anyone have experience connecting to a  "WIndows share" from OS X from ubuntu.  I am having permissions issues and would like to get an "experts opinion".
[08:09] <LjL> talisein: i don't think the Abiword team is committed to using OpenDoc by default in the foreseeable future. if you're asking whether it's *supposed* as an export format in the current version, then i don't know
[08:09] <talisein> indref: comment out the weird wacom, cursor, eraser, stylus entries in the ServerLayout section by putting a # at the front of the lines referencing them, and delete the CorePointer reference after the synaptic line
[08:09] <pike_> edju: thats odd if you sudo gedit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf it shows systemgroup as lpadmin? maybe try sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[08:09] <deltab> Zemyla: alias apt-get='sudo apt-get'
[08:10] <indref> talisein, Ok, just a sec..
[08:11] <talisein> LjL: I see :(
[08:11] <indref> talisein, Don't we want it to be a core pointer?
[08:11] <indref> talisein, All the same, I did as you asked :D
[08:12] <talisein> kjm: Places -> Connect to Server..., then look for a "Windows share" or "samba" entry in the clickable list. if no tthere, install samba
[08:12] <talisein> indref: eh, we can try w/ mouse as corepointer first, then try the other way. reboot the x-server by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and see what happens
[08:12] <xamox> is there a search for apt-get?
[08:12] <kjm> talisein: done and done.  Share mounts fine.  I can read and modify already existing files.  When I try to create a new file - I don't have permission.
[08:12] <LjL> xamox: apt-cache search <filename>
[08:12] <talisein> xamox: apt-cache search package
[08:12] <kjm> xamox : apt-cache search
[08:12] <LjL> !apt-get > xamox
[08:12] <indref> talisein, That means I'd be right back..
[08:12] <pike_> xamox: apt-cache search something
[08:12] <SeanTater> xamox: yes, instead of apt-get, say apt-cache search
[08:13] <talisein> indref: ok. :)
[08:13] <xamox> haha, alright, thx all
[08:13] <talisein> indref: hopefully, if not reverse ;)
[08:13] <Heldon> Hello, Anyone know how to get RDP working with ubuntu? I've put in the ip address and it doesn't want to connect. Do i need to fill out the username, password and domain for it to work also or should it prompt me for it?
[08:13] <SeanTater> xamox: one note: apt-cache does not need sudo
[08:13] <xamox> does that search just names or names & desc?
[08:13] <LjL> xamox: both
[08:13] <talisein> kjm: hrm.
[08:13] <xamox> alright, thx
[08:13] <Ninja562> Hello, I get an XML parsing error "not well formed" when I try to save a page in Firefox, any suggestions?
[08:14] <kjm> I think it is most likely OS X issue - but it is weirdo....
[08:14] <LjL> xamox: if you want just name, a trick is apt-cache search <term> | grep -i <term>
[08:14] <talisein> kjm: I think OS X uses the same samba software underneath
[08:14] <xamox> LjL:  alright, thx
[08:14] <edju> pike_, cupsd.conf indeed shows systemgroup as lpadmin.  However, I just restarted cupsys and CUPS just accepted a users password.  But not root's.  It's a workaround, but thyanks a lot.
[08:15] <talisein> kjm: I don't know how OS X is set up, but try and find some samba.conf file or something ;)
[08:15] <kjm> talisein - yes.  But, the permissions system is a bit different.  So it seems when I log in I can read/modify already existing files - but not create new ones.
[08:15] <kjm> talisein : thanks - I shall look around. :)
[08:15] <indref> talisein, Well, everything seems fine so far.
[08:15] <indref> talisein, It will take time to figure out whether it worked or not.
[08:15] <xamox> anyone here use 7zip from command line, if so how do I invoke it?
[08:15] <talisein> indref: ok
[08:16] <xamox> ahh, just 7z
[08:16] <sparkleytone> kjm: whats the issue?
[08:16] <talisein> indref: I sort of suspect a hardware issue though. but good luck
[08:16] <LjL> xamox: type "dpkg -L <packagename>" to list the files belonging to a package, and find out which one is the executable binary file
[08:16] <talisein> i'm off to class, good luck everyone
[08:16] <LjL> xamox: then "man <filename>" on that file to get help on syntax
[08:17] <sparkleytone> kjm: connecting to an ubuntu SMB share using OS X as client?
[08:17] <indref> talisein, Well, if it worked under windows a week ago, why would it suddenly break?
[08:17] <optimusprime_> when's EdgyEft released?
[08:17] <ladydoor> hey, does anybody know whether there's some way to somehow, like, tell xubuntu to depend on (for example) mutt instead of thunderbird? i'd like to uninstall a lot of programs i never use and don't want to re-uninstall them after next time i distupgrade
[08:18] <jacked> hi folks: how do I find out what files were used/are being used in a running gui-based application?  (gnome windows manager, edgy)
[08:18] <talisein> indref: I forgot about that ;)
[08:19] <indref> talisein, Uh huh :D
[08:19] <pike_> jacked: like lsof | grep gnome or something?
[08:19] <talisein> ladydoor: update-alternatives
[08:19] <talisein> read the man page. i'm out
[08:19] <andyross> Quick question for all: is there a current date for the final Edgy release?
[08:19] <ladydoor> talisein: thanks
[08:19] <jacked> sorry for the awkward question.  oi.
[08:19] <jonah1980_2> andyross, 26th of this month
[08:19] <jacked> pike_: perhaps lsof
[08:19] <andyross> Great, thakns.
[08:20] <dude> can someone help me install beryl?
[08:20] <wedgeV> my fglrx.ko always gets deleted during boot
[08:20] <jacked> pike_: I'm not sure, but I'll look at those suggestions
[08:20] <wedgeV> what is deleting it
[08:20] <pike_> jacked: there are probably people here who could give a better answer but thats what i use
[08:21] <jacked> pike_: can you describe your method a little more?  do you mind?
[08:21] <kismet_> i need to find my Hard Drive's Geometry, is there a file or command that gives this info?
[08:21] <caglar_> where are the ubuntu fonts saved?
[08:22] <pike_> jacked: well i normally just lsof to list used files then | grep for whatever process im interested in
[08:22] <indref> talisein, This Xorg.0.log just doesn't seem right.
[08:22] <indref> talisein, It's like I have twelve touchpads or something.
[08:23] <elvirolo> hi all
[08:23] <indref> talisein, Want me to pastebin it?
[08:23] <indref> !pastebin
[08:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:23] <elvirolo> is this a place to discuss the beat version of edgy ?
[08:23] <jjlowing> caglar_: may be hiden in your home folder .fonts
[08:23] <indref> Hmm, an alternative :D
[08:23] <jacked> pike_: interesting. I'm just getting introduced to these commands... (I've only been using linux for 9 months or so)  I'll give it a go though.  thank you
[08:23] <ladydoor> actually, that doesn't seem to be what i'm looking for, but thank you. i'm looking for some way to make it to where uninstalling (say) mutt would uninstall xubuntu-desktop INSTEAD of having mozilla-thunderbird serving that same purpose. update-alternatives is for determining default applications run at various times.
[08:24] <indref> talisein, Check it out if you'd like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27018/
[08:24] <elvirolo> yes, no ?
[08:25] <pike_> jacked: np the apropos command is handy for finding things it basically searches man pages so "apropos ftp" would list the relevant apps
[08:25] <LazyAngel> it seems like it is totally impossible to syncronize calendar with nokia n80 (symbian s60 v3). Has anyone been able to syncronize a linux calendar with symbian?
[08:25] <jacked> pike_: excellent. thanks again
[08:26] <M_A_K> How can I get my logitec webcam running under ubuntu 6.0.6 using KDE?
[08:26] <caglar_> is there a list which holds all the installed packages?
[08:26] <indref> caglar_, Synaptic.
[08:27] <wedgeV> my fglrx.ko always gets deleted during boot
[08:27] <gre1> how do i set up ubunru for reciving ad-hoc internet?
[08:28] <caglar_> indref, lol, no
[08:28] <jjlowing> caglar_: no, this allow your to add your own font
[08:28] <indref> caglar_, "lol" yourself
[08:28] <TheGateKeeper> ladydoor: to the best of my knowledge if you install using aptitude I think you can then uninstall the package & it's dependencies, but neither synaptic or apt-get seem capable of doing that
[08:28] <wedgeV> caglar_: dpkg --list
[08:28] <caglar_> indref, I mean a list, not a program, lol.
[08:28] <indref> caglar_, The program can provide a list.
[08:29] <caglar_> wedgeV, is there a file which contains the programs? I would like to edit it.
[08:29] <wedgeV> no
[08:29] <caglar_> indref, the program uses a list
[08:29] <umo> I'm trying to get online with a rt61 wlan card but the make all function fails under driver compiling. Help?
[08:29] <xamox> why doesn't 7zip like me? I am have tried creating a tar/zip/7z in windows and then extract it in unzip. Tar cries, unzip cries and 7zip cries. So what is the deal?
[08:29] <sureshot> what is the channel name fur edgy
[08:29] <caglar_> wedgeV, how does dpkg know which package is already installed or not then?
[08:29] <i4get2> kubuntu
[08:29] <TheGateKeeper> ladydoor: you could try uninstalling the package then using debophan but even then I wouldn't give much for your chances of being successfull
[08:29] <ladydoor> TheGateKeeper: ...ok--what i want to do is to NOT uninstall xubuntu-desktop if i uninstall useless graphical programs like mousepad, abiword, thurnderbird, etc.
[08:29] <wedgeV>  /usr/lib/dpkg
[08:30] <gre1> how do i setup ad-hoc in ubuntu?
[08:30] <sureshot> i figured it out
[08:30] <caglar_> wedgeV, thats a directory
[08:30] <M_A_K> Can anybody help me get a logitech webcam up?
[08:30] <ladydoor> TheGateKeeper: i figured it could potentially be possible to work that by instead having them depend on something else that i actually use, like mutt, LaTex, emacs, etc.
[08:31] <gre1> anyone..?
[08:31] <ladydoor> TheGateKeeper: but thanks anyway
[08:31] <ubutom> how can i restart my soundserver? something is blocking the soundcard...
[08:32] <wedgeV> caglar_: hmm, not sure
[08:32] <TheGateKeeper> ladydoor: I've been looking for a role-back system, but haven't really found anything I am confident in using
[08:32] <pike_> caglar_: thats a good question maybe /var/lib/dpkg/  i know there is a available file there ..
[08:33] <TheGateKeeper> devs seem reluctant to sort this out :-(
[08:33] <ladydoor> TheGateKeeper: lol...maybe i should just learn to package stuff and make an UnBuntu desktop that depends on all the non-eyecandiful apps. and what's that that you're looking for?
[08:33] <jacked> pike_: lsof / grep worked like gangbusters.  thanks!
[08:34] <gre1> how do i setup ad-hoc in ubuntu?
[08:34] <shwag_> The newer kernel in edgy doesnt have any of my network drivers like dapper has. Not sure who to talk to about this, or what the fix is.
[08:34] <ladydoor> shwag_: #ubuntu+1
[08:34] <pike_> caglar_: i think the status file under /var/lib/dpkg
[08:35] <pike_> jacked: np
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> ladydoor: I was looking for a nice way back when the devs muck up & let a bad update through, but it would come in handy when installing software that you are not 100% sure you want to keep
[08:35] <turnip> Hi, "nano" (the editor) always seems to interpret the "backspace" key as a "delete" key. This has only happened since Dapper. Does anyone know about this? Cheers
[08:35] <ladydoor> TheGateKeeper: ah, i see. yeah, i dunno
[08:35] <wedgeV> why does my fglrx.ko gets deleted on every boot
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> ladydoor: I suspect gentoo is better at this
[08:35] <zardinuk> turnip: I just found something about that, hold on
[08:35] <ladydoor> TheGateKeeper: i wouldn't know...ubuntu's harder to install, though
[08:35] <ladydoor> *gentoo is, i mean
[08:36] <i4get2> lol was getting ready to say :)
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> ladydoor: not harder, just looooooooonger :-)
[08:36] <salestodo555> what i need to do if i have read this: " OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' "??? 2 days ago it goes perfectly!
[08:37] <gre1> can anyone help me?
[08:37] <zardinuk> turnip: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/BackspaceKey
[08:37] <pike_> turnip: maybe sudo nano /etc/nanorc and look for the set rebinddelete that is commented out but i dont use nano
[08:38] <joan> hola necesito ayuda para instalar rar en ubuntu
[08:38] <joan> soy novato
[08:38] <ladydoor> !es
[08:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:38] <joan> join #apesol
[08:39] <joan> #ubuntu-es
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[08:39] <pike_> joan: /join channel
[08:40] <Johnny__> ello all
[08:40] <ubuntu> hey i need help figureing out how to install ubuntu on my system intead of running it from a cd evry time
[08:41] <turnip> pike_: thanks so much! You have no idea how much that has bothered me
[08:41] <highvoltage> ubuntu: double click on the 'install' icon on the desktop (if it's 6.06)
[08:41] <Johnny__> run disc run the install exe on desktop
[08:41] <cryptonic> can anyone help me, installation of ubuntu fails when loading and the error says try noapic, how do i use noapic and does anyone know what causes the problem?
[08:41] <cypher1_> i am having problems (no sound) with my usb headphone.. can anyone help ?
[08:41] <niekie> ubuntu, do you have another OS installed and you want to keep it on?
[08:43] <ubuntu> i had a crappy one on my computer that just crashed
[08:43] <ubuntu> i dont see install exe
[08:43] <elfranger> anyone up for helping me get proftp up and running?
[08:43] <niekie> ubuntu, there is no install exe.
[08:43] <ubuntu> it sais cdrom and there are like 6 things with install
[08:43] <Zaggynl> hmm KDED seems to interfere with k3b, how do I disable KDED?
[08:43] <niekie> ubuntu, are you on the 6.06 live CD now?
[08:43] <Johnny__> the install icon*
[08:43] <TheGateKeeper> ladydoor: if you have been using linux for a while & like XFce I would seriously think about giving arch linux a try, I just asked if it was possible to uinstall packages & their dependencies & the guy who maintains it says yes
[08:43] <cypher1_> got it working :)
[08:44] <ladydoor> TheGateKeeper: actually, i don't use xfce--it's just that xubuntu-desktop was the most minimal type of *buntu short of the server. but thanks
[08:44] <niekie> ubuntu: If so, click the "Install" icon on the desktop, and follow the instructions, be aware that the default install erases ALL data from your PC.
[08:44] <ladydoor> TheGateKeeper: i like ubuntu, i just don't like all of the extra stuff that comes with it. *shrug*
[08:45] <cryptonic> can anyone help me, installation of ubuntu fails when loading and the error says try noapic, how do i use noapic and does anyone know what causes the problem?
[08:45] <TheGateKeeper> ladydoor: :-)
[08:45] <ubuntu> initrd.gz?
[08:45] <jacked> cryptonic: what system are you using?  it's not a macbook, by chance, is it?
[08:46] <cryptonic> its an amd 64bit dual core system
[08:46] <Johnny__> ok if anyone can help i disabled all interactive editing control for GRUB menu from going by the tuturial " How to disable all interactive editing control for GRUB menu" and sret my password correct then i rebooted... At the grub menu i pressed P to get the passwrod login and so i put the password that i created for the grub menu but it is stating incorrect password and now i am locked out...
[08:46] <Johnny__> ...of the ubuntu... any help?
[08:46] <salestodo555> what i need to do if i have read this: " OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' "??? 2 days ago it goes perfectly!
[08:46] <elfranger> this is funny... why doesn't proftpd start when I have set the servertype to inetd? What am I missing? If I set it to standalone, I am able to start it manually...
[08:47] <niekie> ubuntu, err.. no.
[08:47] <ladydoor> TheGateKeeper: ach well. i'll just uninstall them all now and then re-uninstall them after my next dist-upgrade
[08:47] <elfranger> or, not funny... strange
[08:47] <niekie> ubuntu, if you boot the Ubuntu 6.06 disk, it should have one Install icon on the desktop by default.
[08:47] <elfranger> so, you're saying I made a configural error? Well, that might be... Care to assist me?
[08:47] <ubuntu> there isnt an install icon on the desktop
[08:47] <_hAPPY_mAJA> someone familiar to Rosegarden?
[08:47] <niekie> If you're looking at initrd.gz, you're looking at the wrong place.
[08:47] <pike_> cryptonic: you should just be able to add that to the boot options when grub loads noapic i would think.  btw i would recommend the i386 install then just apt-get a k7 kernel
[08:48] <elfranger> oh well, I'll just have to figure it out myself I guess
[08:48] <niekie> ubuntu, hmm.. there should be, on the 6.06 live CD at least.
[08:48] <indref> ubuntu, Are you booting to the disk?
[08:48] <elfranger> no, no its not a problem
[08:48] <ubuntu> im using the live cd
[08:48] <Zemyla> Hmm.  I need the OpenSSL header files.
[08:48] <ubuntu> and im not seeing anything
[08:48] <gre1> how do i setup ubuntu for ad-hoc?
[08:48] <indref> ubuntu, Boot to it, then then link is on the desktop
[08:49] <niekie> indref, he's stating that he IS booting to it, but not seeing the install icon. =\
[08:49] <cryptonic> well i get as far as selecting the install, run ubuntu and then an error comes up
[08:49] <ubuntu> would that be in the cd rom folder?
[08:49] <jacked> cryptonic: I have that problem with my macbook. the fix that has partially worked for me is to change my lilo.conf file to include append="lpj=8000000"   (changing a frequency essentially -- don't ask me to explain b/c I don't understand)
[08:49] <niekie> ubuntu, are you sure you're using 6.06?
[08:49] <niekie> As in, Ubuntu Dapper Drake?
[08:49] <cryptonic> i saw nowhere where i could type a command to include noapic
[08:49] <indref> niekie, How is that possible.
[08:49] <ubuntu> breezy badger
[08:49] <niekie> indref, I have no idea.
[08:49] <niekie> ubuntu, ah..
[08:49] <pike_> cryptonic: there should be a key to press to enter options for each selection
[08:49] <indref> niekie, I think it's be PEBKAC problem
[08:50] <pike_> cryptonic: a F6 or something key
[08:50] <niekie> Well, you can't install from the live CD with Breezy Badger.
[08:50] <Johnny__> anyway to get around the gruib menu to login into ubuntu?
[08:50] <niekie> indref, heh.
[08:50] <elfranger> where do I set that ftp should start when servertype is set to inetd? I know I had to uncomment a line in some file under slackware...
[08:50] <elfranger> ubuntu is somewhat different
[08:50] <hierba13> need assistance.  xinetd not able to read /etc/protocols.  nothing in xinetd loads...
[08:50] <cryptonic> the more options selection or f6 or something doesnt seem to work correctly
[08:50] <niekie> indref, I don't really care, people can learn from mistakes. :)
[08:50] <elfranger> please, either give me a hint or tell me to shut up and I'll give up and install windows...
[08:51] <jacked> Johnny__: I believe you have to take off the quiet option in your grub config file
[08:51] <cryptonic> as in it doesnt show me more options
[08:51] <pike_> cryptonic: using the 64bit cd?
[08:51] <kmaynard> elfranger, what ftp server?
[08:51] <niekie> ubuntu, you'll need Ubuntu 6.06 if you want to be able to install from the live CD.
[08:51] <elfranger> proftpd
[08:51] <indref> niekie, I only care when people don't learn from mistakes :)
[08:51] <Paddy_EIRE> would this be the most up-to-date/stable kernal im using "2.6.15-27-k7"
[08:51] <cryptonic> just jiberish text bellow the other selections
[08:51] <elfranger> kmaynard: proftpd
[08:51] <ubuntu> okay
[08:51] <niekie> ubuntu, or, if you want to use Breezy Badger, you'll need to download a seperate install CD.
[08:51] <Johnny__> jacked how do i access the quiet option?
[08:51] <joris> How do i make skype start-up automatically when i start my computer
[08:51] <niekie> Though I can highly recommend Dapper Drake, as it is the latest stable release.
[08:52] <pike_> cryptonic: define jibberish
[08:52] <elfranger> joris: isn't it in the settings or preferences or options somewherE?
[08:52] <cryptonic> iv downloaded two different iso's from two different places and yet the error is in both, cd and dvd
[08:52] <indref> ubuntu, I recommend you download the latest LiveCD and install from that.
[08:52] <eXistenZ> What is the best way to get vim7 on ubuntu dapper?
[08:52] <Paddy_EIRE> joris: System > Preferences > sessions
[08:52] <joris> maybe but where....
[08:52] <cryptonic> as in something like (234234kdshd12321)
[08:52] <joris> ok cool thanks
[08:52] <Paddy_EIRE> joris: then choose startup programs
[08:52] <cryptonic> thats not what it said
[08:52] <Johnny__> jacked i mean how do i access the grub config file
[08:52] <lopa> where would I find ssh?
[08:52] <jacked> um... I'm not sure where the grub config file is located... try /boot... try /etc... (I'm sure somebody here knows)... when you find it, type sudo gedit /path/to/config/file
[08:52] <elfranger> joris: well, I'd just go through all settings.. It is most likely very informative text on the selection box...
[08:52] <cryptonic> i didnt take that part down
[08:52] <pike_> cryptonic: my only suggestion would be to download the i386 and not the 64bit installer
[08:52] <niekie> ubuntu, in the latest edition, the live and install CD are combined :)
[08:52] <lopa> ssh isnt in init.d
[08:52] <pike_> cryptonic: ah well that really is jibberish :)
[08:53] <salestodo555> how to reinstall opengl drivers???
[08:53] <niekie> Not on Breezy Badger though.
[08:53] <indref> niekie, Hmm, we tried.
[08:53] <FunnyMan3595> Anybody else have the screensaver activate despite keyboard input?  It's really annoying.
[08:53] <pike_> lopa: sudo apt-get install openssh-server no server apps only client ones on default install
[08:53] <jonah1980_2> can anyone help, my dad is on skype to me and he's useless on computers but i installed him ubuntu ages ago. but it seems all his desktop icons have dissapeared! but they're there if you go through file structure to desktop folder
[08:54] <lopa> I have it
[08:54] <joris> thanks for the assistance im gonne try now...
[08:54] <lopa> I just dont know where
[08:54] <cryptonic> well i remember reading some time ago not to burn the .iso's using nero but i dismissesd this as being bull, somthing about it not writing the linux .iso's correctly
[08:54] <cryptonic> could this be a contributing factor?
[08:54] <Paddy_EIRE> where would be a good resource for individual sound files, Im trying to associate a sound to evolution mail when new mail arrives
[08:54] <FunnyMan3595> crypto: Worked just fine for me.
[08:54] <cryptonic> so nope :(
[08:54] <der0b> cryptonic: I never had a problem with nero and Linux isos
[08:55] <FunnyMan3595> crypto: If you're really worried, run the cd check.
[08:55] <vivi_> hello
[08:55] <FunnyMan3595> crypto: CDs do occasionally burn wrong.
[08:55] <lopa> SO?
[08:55] <cryptonic> i cant, has the same error as when i try to install or run
[08:55] <cryptonic> same for safe graphics so on so fourth
[08:55] <xamox> how can I download an entire directory with ftp from console? I have tried mget but that doesn't seem to work
[08:56] <der0b> xamox: have you tried wget?
[08:56] <jacked> gotta run...
[08:56] <xamox> der0b:  will wget connect to ftp?
[08:56] <der0b> yep!  it's common to mirror sites with it
[08:56] <lopa> any ideas?
[08:56] <der0b> xamox: you'll need to read the man for the correct command line options though
[08:56] <vivi_> tud valaki ms is rajtam kvl magyarul
[08:57] <xamox> der0b:  alright, thx
[08:57] <vivi_> ?
[08:57] <cryptonic> this is the error i get " Kernel Panic - not syncing : IO - APIC + timer doesnt work ! Try using the 'noapic ' kernel parameter
[08:57] <vivi_> i from in hungary
[08:57] <Zaggynl> try #ubuntu-hu
[08:57] <FunnyMan3595> *scratches his head*  I just can't figure out why the screensaver starts when I'm typing.  As soon as it's finished fading out, a keystroke will wake it up.
[08:58] <epimer> hi guys
[08:58] <vivi_> hi
[08:59] <indref> vivi_, #ubuntu-hu
[08:59] <epimer> i need to boot to a command prompt, so i can install the nVidia beta drivers from their script. how do i do that?
[08:59] <epimer> (it won't run with an existing X session running)
[08:59] <vivi_> ha
[08:59] <indref> epimer, There is another way, actually.
[08:59] <pike_> epimer: alt-ctrl-f1 then login then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:00] <kromel> dang
[09:00] <kromel> pike beat me to it
[09:00] <indref> epimer, What pike_  said, but there is another way to get the drivers.
[09:00] <ochosi> i have a question about ssh-x-server forwarding server-configuration
[09:00] <pike_> ochosi: ?
[09:00] <ochosi> i don't have x-server running on my server, but xlibs installed
[09:01] <ochosi> i can connect to the server with the -X or -Y option
[09:01] <crochat> I have a question: the kernel modules "r1000" and "ipw3945" (probably there are others in the same case) exist in the linux-image-2.6.15-27 Ubuntu package, but when I compile my own kernel from the 2.6.18 sources, it seems those modules don't exist anymore !!! Why ??
[09:01] <ochosi> without error msg, but when i try to run e.g. xterm it says "DISPLAY not set"
[09:02] <vivi_> Where are you from?????????
[09:02] <Zaggynl> I'm from Holland myself
[09:02] <indref> vivi_, Earth, where are you from.
[09:02] <deamon> i have upgrade my distro ubuntu to edgy and i have this error /usr/bin/eciadsl-start: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[09:02] <deamon>  ?? why tnx !!
[09:02] <Ninja562> Holland is cool..he he
[09:03] <vivi_> :)
[09:03] <Zaggynl> <:
[09:03] <chuckyp> deamon, edgy support is in #ubuntu+1
[09:03] <ochosi> pike_ any idea?
[09:03] <vivi_> i from hungary
[09:03] <indref> vivi_, We know.
[09:03] <deamon> tnx !!
[09:03] <deamon> chuckyp!
[09:03] <ochosi> vivi_jo estet kivanok
[09:03] <vivi_> :)
[09:04] <vivi_> neked is jo estt
[09:04] <elfranger> how do I enable site-to-site transfer in proftpd?
[09:04] <vivi_> szia
[09:04] <basschimp> heh, sorry guys
[09:04] <b_d_p> chuckyp: dapper support is ok here?
[09:04] <ochosi> szia
[09:04] <basschimp> i hit ctrl+alt+F1 before reading the whole command...could someone please paste the previous advice?
[09:04] <chuckyp> b_d_p, yes
[09:05] <basschimp> wait - i was connected as epimer
[09:05] <epimer> like so1
[09:05] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[09:05] <\Dj\Krit\> is there an irc channel for ISPConfig or can someone here help me, i'm looking to completely uninstall it
[09:05] <pike_> ochosi: dont have any experience doing that without x server running sorry
[09:05] <vivi_> ochosi do you speak english
[09:05] <vivi_> ?
[09:05] <indref> epimer, You can use Synaptic to install nVidia drivers
[09:05] <Shadow420> yes
[09:05] <Wazm> Hi
[09:05] <epimer> even the beta ones?
[09:05] <vivi_> I sorry
[09:05] <ochosi> pike_ ok thanks
[09:06] <vivi_> Do you speak hungary ochosi??
[09:06] <ochosi> vivi_ obviously (at least i seem to write in english)
[09:06] <FunnyMan3595> I've got a problem with my computer sometimes hanging indefinitely on shutdown.  It goes completely unresponsive, but never finishes the shudown.  Where should I look after a hard reboot to try and diagnose it?
[09:06] <ochosi> vivi_ no, i don't speak magyar
[09:06] <crochat> Where can I see the list of "specialy" added modules, like "r1000" or "ipw3945" in the Ubuntu kernels ?
[09:06] <b_d_p> cool. i'd like to use lcdproc 0.5 cos it has support for my iR+LCD without needing a patch. 0.5 is in breezy, im using dapper which only has 0.4.5... what are my options?
[09:06] <Wazm> that's a secret
[09:06] <vivi_> :D
[09:06] <Shadow420> I have a question
[09:06] <vivi_> You are very hony!:D
[09:07] <FunnyMan3595> Shadow: I have an answer, but they probably don't match.
[09:07] <indref> vivi_, wtf?
[09:07] <chuckyp> Shadow420, there is no afterlife
[09:07] <epimer> so how do i get to a command line without an X session running?
[09:07] <indref> Shadow420, No god either, sorry to say.
[09:08] <chuckyp> epimer, well if X isn't running then you are at a virtual terminal
[09:08] <Shadow420> how can I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator Kegs 0.91
[09:08] <vivi_> What?
[09:08] <cryptonic> found out its something to do with socket am2 :(
[09:08] <chuckyp> epimer, if not hit ctrl+alt+f1
[09:08] <lters> anyone here try a v40z sun fire box with ubuntu?
[09:08] <FunnyMan3595> Shadow: You're more likely to get help if you actually *ask* your question instead of waiting for us to retrieve it via telepathy.
[09:08] <indref> epimer, Just a sec, I'll look it up :)
[09:08] <BoyBach> Hello, I am trying to update evolution to 2.8.1 how do I install it.
[09:08] <epimer> chuckyp, have done, but running the script still tells me i have an X server running
[09:08] <epimer> indref, ty
[09:09] <Shadow420> how can I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator Kegs 0.91?
[09:09] <indref> epimer, Got it, just a sec.
[09:09] <indref> epimer, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:09] <jimdaniels> my apt-get is completly unusuable since i deleted the folder of my vmware-player. each try to install, reinstall or remove any program ends up in an error from vmware. how can i gell apt-get that this application is removed?
[09:10] <Seveas> nixternal, you lousy b*tard 
[09:10] <indref> epimer, Write that one down, it's an important one.
[09:10] <jimdaniels> *get sorry
[09:10] <epimer> indref, ty! i'll write it down before hitting ctrl-alt-F1 this time :)
[09:10] <FunnyMan3595> jim: I think you mean s/gell/tell
[09:10] <lters> jimdaniels: sudo dpkg --force-all --purge vmware-player
[09:11] <jimdaniels> lters: thanks i will try that
[09:11] <vivi_> what?
[09:11] <chuckyp> jimdaniels, which application do you need to remove?
[09:11] <Homer> is there a difference between "sudo -i" and "sudo bash"
[09:11] <Seveas> Homer, quite
[09:11] <Sp4rKY> hi
[09:11] <Homer> what
[09:11] <jimdaniels> chuckyp: vmware-player (the package appears as installed in synaptic and i can't remove it)
[09:12] <Seveas> sudo bash is unsafe
[09:12] <SB|nblracer> hello
[09:12] <Seveas> it doesn't reset eg $HOME
[09:12] <Homer> oh
[09:12] <chuckyp> jimdaniels, did you try lters instructions?
[09:12] <b_d_p> lcdproc 0.5 is in breezy, dapper respository has 0.4.5... what are my options for getting the newer package installed?
[09:12] <Sp4rKY> please, does exists a software which can show me the bandwith used for each vhosts on a computer (munin don't do this)
[09:12] <vivi_> i favourite color the black, write and red
[09:12] <Sp4rKY> please, does exists a software which can show me the bandwith used for each vhosts on a computer (munin don't do this)
[09:12] <jimdaniels> lters: wait please i'm pasting the output
[09:12] <lters> Sp4rKY: sudo apt-get install iptraf
[09:13] <vivi_> What you favourit color?
[09:13] <Chm0d> woot xp in vmware is now installed
[09:13] <jimdaniels> lters: chuckyp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27019/
[09:13] <Sp4rKY> lters: and it crerate a picture ?
[09:13] <lters> ah, no
[09:13] <lters> it will show it live tho
[09:13] <_hAPPY_mAJA> anyone who knows rosegarden?
[09:13] <SB|nblracer> why dose Ubuntu not mount all of my drives
[09:14] <vivi_> na
[09:14] <vivi_> szia
[09:14] <vivi_> jo ejszakat kivanok
[09:14] <pike_> SB|nblracer: what kind of drives?
[09:14] <lters> jimdaniels: rm -rf /etc/vmware
[09:14] <SB|nblracer> there ide HDD pike_
[09:15] <vivi_> good bay!= viszlt
[09:15] <pike_> SB|nblracer: there must be an entry in /etc/fstab    sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:15] <vivi_> hi
[09:15] <marshall> SB|nblracer, which drives isnt it mounting?
[09:15] <J03> anyone familiar with getting SWAT set up?
[09:15] <SB|nblracer> will look at it pike_
[09:15] <jimdaniels> lters: after rm -rf /etc/vmware,  dpkg --force-all --purge vmware-player, still gives the same output as i posted before.
[09:15] <pike_> SB|nblracer: entry will vary by filesystem
[09:15] <Sp4rKY> lters: mmhhh, iptraf isn't what i want. I want something like mrtg or munin, but which can show the bandwith used for each vhost
[09:16] <Shadow420> how do I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator xkegs
[09:16] <vivi_> what you favourite animals????????????????????????????????????
[09:16] <pontusen> im looking for a good program to print my covers(for DVDs) with. Anyone has any good tip=
[09:16] <pontusen> ?
[09:16] <jimdaniels> the eft
[09:16] <suspectkboss> I've been trying to use wine to install itunes, but no luck. "QuickTime installation has failed" is all I get. Any suggestions?
[09:17] <chuckyp> suspectkboss, have you checked wine's appdb?
[09:17] <lters> jimdaniels: do the rm first.
[09:17] <suspectkboss> yeah
[09:17] <vivi_> good night
[09:17] <jimdaniels> lters: i did
[09:17] <pike_> suspectkboss: install vmware server and run xp. personally im too lazy to use wine..
[09:17] <Shadow420> heh I use a windows box to run windows stuff
[09:17] <chuckyp> suspectkboss, they usually have installation tips and sugestions there.  And especially important whether or not the app actually works with wine.
[09:17] <suspectkboss> they only have itunes 6.something, and i cant find the binary for that anywhre
[09:17] <chuckyp> pike_, wine is much easier than installing xp
[09:17] <vivi_> good night everybodi
[09:17] <lters> jimdaniels: is that folder gone? if so you will get a different error msg.
[09:18] <Shadow420> actually installing XP is easy
[09:18] <chuckyp> suspectkboss, what version are you trying to install?
[09:18] <jimdaniels> lters: bash: cd: /etc/vmware: No such file or directory
[09:18] <jimdaniels> lters: so it definetly is gone
[09:18] <suspectkboss> itunes 7
[09:18] <Ninja562> is Dapper last stable?
[09:18] <jimdaniels> lters: and i get the same error
[09:18] <Shadow420> ??
[09:18] <pike_> chuckyp: ill allow that my ignorance is probably the biggest obstacle but still like i said im lazy
[09:18] <Shadow420> how do I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator xkegs 0.91?
[09:19] <SB|nblracer> pike_ i got a stupid question, why would i want a different acccess point for a HDD
[09:19] <Heldon> besides gaim, is there another messenger system out there that groups all IM's together?
[09:19] <chuckyp> suspectkboss, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5774
[09:19] <lters> Heldon: kopete
[09:19] <chuckyp> pike_, the lazy way would be to use wine
[09:19] <suspectkboss> ohh
[09:19] <suspectkboss> stupid me
[09:19] <j00bar> howdy -- running the ubuntu live CD with three SCSI disks configured for RAID, on boot when trying to start EVMS, the system halts with "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08069d70" -- is there any way to prevent evms from starting from the live CD?
[09:19] <pike_> SB|nblracer: define access point for me.  you mean mount point?
[09:20] <pontusen> im looking for a good program to print my covers(for DVDs) with. Anyone has any good tip?
[09:20] <suspectkboss> so no luck, huh?
[09:20] <jimdaniels> lters: here i updated the past so you can make sure i did it right ( but i think so ) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27020/
[09:20] <neddddd> can i mount a windows partition with a live cd??
[09:20] <SB|nblracer> yes mount
[09:20] <SB|nblracer> sorry a linux n00b
[09:20] <bobbyd> hi
[09:21] <bobbyd> is it possible to disable specific plugins in firefox?
[09:21] <suspectkboss> all i use itunes for is to listen to the radios. any help importing the radio station list into amarok or rhythmbox?
[09:21] <lters> pontusen: sudo apt-cache search cd covers
[09:21] <Ninnghizidha> Hello. Anybody knows about Nvidia-videodrivers on ubuntu-x64?
[09:21] <BoyBach> where is a good place to extract files for installation
[09:21] <jimdaniels> anybody knows how i can get rid of my destroyed vmware-player package? these tries here failed http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27020/
[09:21] <lters> BoyBach: /usr/src
[09:22] <BoyBach> thanks.
[09:22] <pike_> SB|nblracer: each partition needs to be mounted you mount them typically to a directory so i might do "sudo mkdir /media/hda1" then if my partition was ntfs i might do sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 its very simple but a little intimidating at first
[09:22] <jimdaniels> pontusen: koverartist
[09:22] <Shadow420> how do I compile the Apple IIgs Emulator xkegs 0.91 in linux
[09:22] <chuckyp> BoyBach, depends on what you mean source files?
[09:23] <chuckyp> Shadow420, follow their instructions
[09:23] <jimdaniels> lters: you seen the paste? removing the vmware folder didn't change anything ( i think the reason is that it was allready removed)
[09:23] <Shadow420> I have and limits what i need to do
[09:23] <lters> Shadow420: http://www.google.com/search?q=Apple+IIgs+Emulator+gcc&btnG=Search
[09:23] <BoyBach> I want to install evolution I have downloaded the tar file and I want to extract it somewhere while I install it.
[09:23] <Shadow420> it's let me puzzled
[09:24] <jimdaniels> BoyBach: you can extract files wherever you want. evolution is allready integrated in ubuntu
[09:24] <SB|nblracer> but dose it mater where you mount them too?, i was gooing to "/" . why would i want to mount a drive in a folder of another drive?
[09:24] <Jowi> anyone's got an intel mac mini and has sound working (dapper)?
[09:25] <BoyBach> i am on 2.6 there is a more update one according to evolution site.
[09:25] <Ninja562> can anyone suggest video conferencing software?
[09:25] <luis_lopez> Hi, someone that has been able to setup ddclient to work with xname.org?
[09:25] <eugman> What packages do I need to make totem or mplayer plat a mov file?
[09:25] <jimdaniels> BoyBach: well wait until synaptic has it
[09:25] <BoyBach> I thought there might be a general folder that can be used for that sort of thing
[09:25] <Jowi> luis_lopez, only tried with dyn-dns
[09:25] <jimdaniels> BoyBach: you can create one if you like
[09:26] <BoyBach> ok, thanks why is it more secur then
[09:26] <pike_> SB|nblracer: shouldnt matter as long as the mount point isnt used by something else like / is the mount point for ubuntus primary partition
[09:26] <BoyBach> ?
[09:26] <pike_> SB|nblracer: for an automatic solution see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:26] <jimdaniels> BoyBach: sudo mkdir /path/of/your/destinated/new/temp/dir
[09:26] <jimdaniels> lters: you know anything else i can try?
[09:26] <BoyBach> why sudo ?
[09:27] <jimdaniels> try it without
[09:27] <lters> jimdaniels: dpkg -L <pckname> should show u the files included. You need to find the script that is failing. and fix it.
[09:27] <SB|nblracer> pike_ thanks for the link
[09:27] <jmitchj> Is there a web site where all ubuntu terminal commands are listed?
[09:29] <jimdaniels> lters: i think when i have all files back... this won't get me any further because when they were existing, apt-get did allready crash into an error after running the vmware configuration script (each time i tried any operation) that's why i finnally removed the folder. so isn't there any other way to delete it?
[09:29] <kismet_> jmitchj - this could work for you: http://ss64.com/bash/index.html
[09:29] <suspectkboss> how do i play a .pls radio stream in rhythmbox? do i need a gstreamer plugin?
[09:30] <jmitchj> kismet_: Thanks
[09:30] <lters> jimdaniels: it is complaining about /etc/init.d/vmware-player , so get rid of that.
[09:30] <jimdaniels> suspectkboss: i think .pls are winamp playlists aren't they?
[09:31] <eugman> jmitch, would something listing lunux terminal commands in general be useful?
[09:31] <jimdaniels> lters: sudo rm -r /etc/init.d/vmware-player ?
[09:31] <eugman> whoops nvm
[09:31] <jmitchj> kismet_: What command can I use to list the system log?
[09:31] <lters> jimdaniels: did you do the dpkg -L vmware-player ?
[09:32] <jimdaniels> lters: no only the sudo rm -r /etc/init.d/vmware-player
[09:32] <Ninja562> how do you install a second monitor?
[09:32] <jimdaniels> and it seems to work now!
[09:32] <jimdaniels> lters: the synaptic update seems to run just fine
[09:32] <Luakagon> Something's got my audio; how do I get it loose so I can listen to my favorite internet radio?
[09:32] <suspectkboss> yeah
[09:32] <jimdaniels> lters: i will try to remove packages after it
[09:32] <suspectkboss> but they're just mp3 streams
[09:32] <suspectkboss> so rhythmbox should play them
[09:33] <jimdaniels> lters: oh id made the updates but crashed in the vm error at the ned again
[09:33] <Bensr20det> How do I restart x-server??
[09:33] <simtower> hello
[09:33] <simtower> how can i get on the internet?
[09:34] <nolimitsoya> Bensr20det, ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:34] <crochat> Bensr20det: CTRL-ALT-Backspace ;-)
[09:34] <nolimitsoya> simtower, you are :)
[09:34] <Bensr20det> thanks
[09:34] <simtower> i mean, get on, the World Wide Web
[09:34] <nolimitsoya> start firefox
[09:34] <pike_> Ninja562: its not what i use but see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[09:34] <simtower> oh it is firefox for WWW?
[09:34] <nolimitsoya> simtower, yes
[09:34] <simtower> thx
[09:34] <kismet_> jmitchj: look into 'cat', 'more', and 'less'
[09:35] <alex_1234> Can some one give me some help.. My computer will not Lock.
[09:35] <Chamuco> hi I did a recent install and I have a program that needs progsreiserfs. I search for that rpm and found libreiserfs-progs. In it's description mentions progsreiserfs, but I am not sure if it is included on libreiserfs-progs, anyone knows?
[09:35] <nolimitsoya> alex_1234, is screensaverdaemon running?
[09:35] <simtower> alex_1234, it is bad when a computer locks up you should be happy
[09:35] <nolimitsoya> Chamuco, you shouldnt install any rpm:s at all
 how do i check
[09:35] <nolimitsoya> ubuntu is debianbased, hence debpackages
[09:36] <nolimitsoya> alex_1234, does your screensaver work? :)
[09:36] <jimdaniels> lters: oh man.. when i try to install a pack synaptic tries to fix the vmware first and makes the error. mean i couldn't care less if i still could install things but this error prevents me from doing anything but updates
[09:36] <pike_> Chamuco: you should be able to install that through synaptic im showing it in main and universe
[09:36] <alex_1234> yah
[09:36] <lters> jimdaniels: is there a new update?
[09:36] <Jowi> crimsun, I read here http://desrt.mcmaster.ca/macbook.xhtml that a sound patch for dapper and intel mac mini was added to dapper. do you happen to know if 2.6.15-25-686 have it included?
[09:36] <nolimitsoya> alex_1234, then how, exactly, are you trying to lock the screen then?
[09:37] <variant> jimdaniels: remove vmware and resinstall it
[09:37] <jimdaniels> lters: i think they were a few days old because befor ei removed this folder you said before i could not do updates
[09:37] <jimdaniels> variant: i can't remove a pacl
[09:37] <Chamuco> but does libreiserfs-progs contain progsreiserfs or would it be a different deb package?
[09:37] <alex_1234> nolimitsoya through the dialogue from the shutdown menu or the lock computer short-cut icon
[09:37] <jimdaniels> lters: dpkg -L vmware-player   what do i have to do with this list`?
[09:37] <lFke> can k3b burn .cue/.bin ?
[09:37] <Zaggynl> yap
[09:38] <bulmer> am in the process of installation(multi-os multi-boot), how do I get the existing GRUB to then have an entry for Ubuntu?
[09:38] <variant> jimdaniels: use apt-get remove vmware
[09:38] <lFke> Zaggynl: was that for me?
[09:38] <nolimitsoya> alex_1234, i have no idea then :)
[09:38] <Zaggynl> kiso can convert every image file to iso I think though
[09:38] <Zaggynl> lFke, yup :)
[09:38] <pike_> Chamuco: well in the repo they are seperate debs
[09:38] <lFke> Zaggynl: where do you go to?
[09:38] <Zaggynl> lFke, you mean?
[09:38] <lFke> Zaggynl: im trying to burn .cue/.bin
[09:38] <Chamuco> pike_: so should I install both?
[09:39] <nolimitsoya> jimdaniels, tried doing a dist-upgrade?
[09:39] <Zaggynl> lFke, lemme try that
[09:39] <jimdaniels> nolimitsoya: yes somebody else told me to
[09:39] <pike_> Chamuco: id install the progreiserfs through synaptic and if it needs anything else it will install that as well automatically
[09:39] <jimdaniels> i think sudo apt-get remove worked now after removing the folder init something
[09:39] <jimdaniels> wait
[09:40] <alex_1234> nolimitsoya -- thanks.. i just can't figure otu what caused it b/c it just sudden;y stoped working.. i thought maybe the x-server was crashing so then i put it as a black screen saver .. the screen saver goes on.. but its not locked and it is check on the screen-saver propertieds dialouge
[09:40] <pike_> !iso > Zaggynl
[09:40] <Chamuco> alright I'll give it a try thanks!
[09:40] <nolimitsoya> alex_1234, done any updates recently?
[09:40] <Zaggynl> lFke, okay ,it seems k3b can only burn iso files, get kiso, and use that to convert .bin to .iso
[09:40] <nolimitsoya> Chamuco, check what packages are suggested for that package :)
[09:41] <nolimitsoya> Zaggynl, k3b can burn just about any format :)
[09:41] <alex_1234> yah but none for the x-server...
[09:41] <nolimitsoya> alex_1234, drivers, perhaps?
[09:41] <Zaggynl> it can?
[09:41] <lFke> nolimitsoya: can it burn .cue/.bin?
[09:41] <Zaggynl> I'm confused now, it only lists .iso at filters
[09:41] <jeroen__> Hi everyone i hope someone can help me.. i cant change my resolution of my monitor anymore:(  it stays big the resolution is on 640x480 60 htz cant be changed
[09:41] <nolimitsoya> lFke, yes
[09:42] <lFke> nolimitsoya: where do you go to?
[09:42] <Luakagon> Can someone help me?  My movie isn't playing audio and I want to determine whether or not it's because there's no audior or there's some software issue...
[09:42] <pike_> !fixres > jeroen__
[09:42] <nolimitsoya> jeroen__, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- type into a terminal
 what kind and how would i check
[09:42] <chuckyp> Luakagon, well is your audio working with other apps?
[09:42] <jimdaniels> lters: yes it works again. removing the things you told me did the thing i guess
[09:42] <ClayG> anyone know how I can rotate my GMDlogin and splash screens ?
 there were none that i recalled
[09:42] <Luakagon> chuckyp, Yes.
[09:42] <nolimitsoya> alex_1234, did you install any driverupdates :)
[09:42] <ClayG> automatically?
[09:42] <jimdaniels> lters: thanks a lot for you help. i tried this for 3 days
[09:43] <chuckyp> Luakagon, what type of file?
[09:43] <nolimitsoya> lFke, burn cd image
[09:43] <Luakagon> chuckyp, .mp4
[09:43] <Luakagon> chuckyp, playing in xine
[09:43] <chuckyp> Luakagon, do you have the codecs installed?
[09:43] <jimdaniels> what was the command line irc?
[09:43] <jimdaniels> pack
 not recently
[09:43] <Luakagon> chuckyp, well it's playing.  I can only assumi I do
[09:43] <ladydoor> jimdaniels: there are many terminal-based irc clients, such as irssi and bitchx
[09:43] <lFke> nolimitsoya: i only see ".ISO"
[09:43] <jimdaniels> i will try bitchx. thank you
[09:44] <lFke> nolimitsoya: im sayin, on DVD, not on CD
[09:44] <chuckyp> Luakagon, well if you have certain codecs missing you will have issues like you are experiencing.  But as far as determining which audio stream is encoded with the movie I wouldn't know where to begin.   But I would check out the restricted formats page and make sure you have the proper codec first.
[09:44] <chuckyp> !tell Luakagon about codec
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <Luakagon> chuckyp, thanks! :D ok bye off hunting codecs
[09:44] <chuckyp> !tell Luakagon about codecs
[09:44] <nolimitsoya> lFke, ok, cant help you then :)
[09:45] <nolimitsoya> cd is fine though
[09:45] <chuckyp> Luakagon, ubotu should send you the webpage you need.
[09:45] <jimdanielstermin> hello?
[09:45] <chuckyp> gnomefrelk lol
[09:45] <nolimitsoya> jimdanielstermin :)
[09:45] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, you know what my video problems boiled down to?   Video card memory that went all goofy on me was causing my lockups not updates
[09:46] <Wazm> yo
[09:46] <chuckyp> jimdanielstermin, hello
[09:46] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: oh ok
[09:46] <jimdanielstermin> how can i connect / disconnect in bitchx?
[09:46] <zOrK> hi there, I've got a little trouble
[09:46] <Wazm> ok
[09:46] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, contacted evga have to stop being lazy and send them my borked card.
[09:46] <ClayG> anyone know how I can rotate my GMDlogin and splash screens ?
[09:46] <ClayG> anyone know how I can rotate my GMDlogin and splash screens ?
[09:46] <ladydoor> !repeat
[09:46] <ClayG> sorry aboutr the double post
[09:46] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:46] <nolimitsoya> ClayG, rotate?
[09:47] <chuckyp> !tell z0rk about ask
[09:47] <drezha> does anyone know a decent program that rip ogg vorbis files and I can change the bitrate?
[09:47] <zOrK> I've fixed my broadcom Wireless card, (which seemed to be bugged), and everytime I want to use it I need to "modprobe ndiswrapper" . how  can I make it automatic?
[09:47] <ClayG> nolimitsoya, yeah like each time you turn your computyer on there is a differnt theme
[09:47] <jimdanielstermin> *waves* i'm jimdaniels's bitchx clone
[09:47] <zOrK> I've fixed my broadcom Wireless card, (which seemed to be bugged), and everytime I want to use it I need to "modprobe ndiswrapper" . how  can I make it automatic to connect at startup?
[09:47] <alex_1234> !patience
[09:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:47] <drezha> soundjuicer doesn't seem to allow me to change the bitrate
[09:47] <nolimitsoya> ClayG, go into 'login windows' in system meny
[09:47] <nolimitsoya> *menu
[09:48] <jimdanielstermin> ladydoor: thx bitchx is nice
[09:48] <ClayG> nolimitsoya, ok im there
[09:48] <nolimitsoya> ClayG -> theme: random from selectes
[09:48] <nolimitsoya> *selected
[09:48] <ladydoor> jimdanielstermin: np
[09:48] <nolimitsoya> select those you want to rotate
[09:48] <chuckyp> zOrK, you need to add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules
[09:48] <ClayG> nolimitsoya, NICE, thanks
[09:49] <nolimitsoya> np :)
[09:49] <zOrK> chuckyp: ok, how can I do it ?, is there any doc?
[09:49] <zOrK> or just add the line ndiswrapper to /etc/modules?
[09:49] <zOrK> that easy?
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> zOrK: Quite possibly.
[09:50] <chuckyp> zOrK, yeah that easy.  You need to edit the file with administrator privileges though.
[09:50] <boink> heh .. that's what I though, z0rk
[09:50] <ClayG> nolimitsoya, can this also be done for the splash screen and background?
[09:50] <chuckyp> zOrK, i.e. sudo gedit /etc/modules
[09:50] <zOrK> yeah, I know
[09:50] <zOrK> cool..
[09:50] <zOrK> thanks
[09:50] <chuckyp> zOrK, np
[09:50] <zOrK> I'll try rebooting, thanks al ot chuckyp.
[09:50] <lters> any sun users...
[09:50] <nolimitsoya> ClayG, you mean usplash?
[09:51] <Gobfrey> can anyone help me set up GRUB?
[09:51] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, what do you mean set it up?
[09:51] <ClayG> nolimitsoya, I want to know if there is a way to do what we just did for the GDMlogin screen to the image that is loaded after loging on (the one that says loading desktop, modules, etc)
[09:51] <nolimitsoya> ClayG, ah, there might be... never looked. :) mom
[09:52] <chuckyp> ClayG, you want to flip your entire display?
[09:52] <ClayG> chuckyp, no
[09:52] <Gobfrey> chukyp: I unplugged my hard disk, installed windows on another, then plugged in the windows hard disk as a secondary drive.  I've tried to set up GRUB so that I can dual boot, but I got something wrong.....
[09:52] <ClayG> chuckyp, you know the splash screen?
[09:52] <chuckyp> !grub
[09:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:52] <nolimitsoya> ClayG, im on xubuntu right now, and there doesnt seem to be an eazu way to do that, no
[09:53] <zOrK> chuckyp: it works!, thank you.
[09:53] <ClayG> chuckyp, by defailt it is a rectangular box that says ubunutu and has different small icons that pop up after certain modules or parts of the system are loaded
[09:53] <Ninja562> what is a postfix configuration mean?
[09:53] <nolimitsoya> ClayG, there was a packadge before, in the repos, that changed you background one a month or something, though i dont know how to rotate wallpapers on reboot, with out a bit of effort :)
[09:54] <chuckyp> zOrK, np
[09:54] <ClayG> nolimitsoya, I'm watching some sht about the Sahara on the history channel.  It used to be full of giraffs, elephants, and all other animals thousands of years ago
[09:54] <chuckyp> ClayG, I know what you are talking about but  you can rotate X completely using xrand  so that everythign will be rotated in X
[09:55] <nolimitsoya> chuckyp, you got it wrong. he wants the wallpapers to change on reboot, in a rotating scheme
[09:55] <chuckyp> nolimitsoya, ohh okay
[09:55] <chuckyp> I thought he wanted to turn his desktop and stuff
[09:56] <hierba13> anyone know xinetd?  can't get it started...
[09:56] <ClayG> nah
[09:56] <ClayG> want to do have different login and splash screens each time
[09:57] <Gobfrey> chuckyp:  I followed some instructions there.  I need to restart now. If it doesn't work, I'll be back.  If I don't come back, thanks for the pointer.
[09:57] <chuckyp> np
[09:57] <pike_> chuckyp: for a prettier theme open a terminal and type "xgamma -rgamma 4"
[09:57] <bulmer> I just finished installing using low res (VGA)..now at boot I selected ubuntu but nothing is displayed - because I think of the low res..how to correct this?
[09:57] <chuckyp> pike_, ?
[09:58] <nolimitsoya> :P
[09:58] <pike_> chuckyp: im just bored sorry
[09:58] <nolimitsoya> pike is messing with you ;)
[09:58] <nolimitsoya> though pink is nice...
[09:58] <nolimitsoya> cute :D
[09:58] <jimdanielstermin> is there any way to set power states with an amd processor?
[09:58] <variant> jimdanielstermin: if it supports them
[09:58] <chuckyp> pike_, You shouldn't post that stuff in here poeople will try it.
[09:59] <ClayG> try what?
[09:59] <nolimitsoya> whats importantis that they know howto change back
[09:59] <ClayG> oh i see
[09:59] <nolimitsoya> -rgamma 1
[09:59] <ClayG> ok, lemme " give 'er a whirl"
[09:59] <Ninja562> where can I find info on Postfix Configuration?
[09:59] <nolimitsoya> kawaii, eh ClayG? :)
[09:59] <Shadow420> ok I can't seam to make vars to work
[10:00] <nolimitsoya> Ninja562, man postfix
[10:00] <BelialMkII> mmh... rose coloured specticles
[10:00] <vcef> hi
[10:00] <ClayG> nolimitsoya, kawaii?
[10:00] <nolimitsoya> cute in japanese :)
[10:00] <ClayG> nolimitsoya, are you a jap?
[10:00] <Ninja562> nolimitsoya:thx
[10:00] <nolimitsoya> nope, swede :P
[10:00] <Shadow420> I run sudo make clean
[10:00] <ClayG> nolimitsoya, ahhh ok
[10:00] <ClayG> hey thart reminds me
[10:00] <vcef> I've got this: -rw-rw-rw- 1 vita vita 405078016 Oct 16 23:37 backup.iso
[10:01] <nolimitsoya> though its fun knowing single words of lagnuages from halvway round the globe ^^
[10:01] <vcef> and this is part of my mtab: /tmp/test/backup.iso /tmp/test/iso iso9660 rw,loop=/dev/loop0 0 0
[10:01] <ClayG> have anyone noticed that skype is slow as sht on linux?
[10:01] <Shadow420> and then I get this make: *** No rule to make target `vars'.  Stop.
[10:01] <vcef> and still it complains that the file-system is read-only
[10:01] <ClayG> or is it just my machine/that version(old)
[10:01] <ClayG> ?
[10:01] <vcef> any ideas?
[10:01] <nolimitsoya> ClayG, never used skype, so no :) why not just ventrilo?
[10:01] <ompaul> ClayG, any one notice the !language?
[10:01] <Poromenos> Hi, is there any way to stop the middle mouse button from pasting?
[10:01] <Shadow420> any ideas to fix this
[10:01] <ClayG> ventrilo?
[10:01] <POVaddct> vcef: iso9660 does not implement write operations
[10:01] <ClayG> what is that nolimitsoya
[10:01] <ompaul> ClayG, other than that the new one for ubuntu seems fast enough
[10:02] <vcef> ahh! since when?
[10:02] <ompaul> chuckyp, code it
[10:02] <ClayG> ompaul, ok thanks for the reminder
[10:02] <nolimitsoya> ClayG, ventrilo is a teamspeakingsoftware for gaming, but makes a good conference/telephone-alternative :)
[10:02] <Bubbadood> hi all fairly knew to linux ... was wondering .. I have a coprrupted USB Drive that was formatted via a NAS through USB using XFS .. the filesystem according to the NAS is corrupt .. they would only give me limited support but told me if I connected it to a Linux machine I may have some luck ... anyone feel like helping ?
[10:02] <POVaddct> vcef: always. iso9660 is not writeable, regardless of the media it is on
[10:02] <ClayG> nolimitsoya, yeah but skype has more people, i want to talk to chicks all over the world
[10:02] <chuckyp> ompaul, yeah
[10:02] <Gobfrey> So, can anyone give me a little assistance setting up GRUB?  I looked at the docs, but it didn't work....
[10:02] <chuckyp> ompaul, lol
[10:03] <vcef> I remember altering a morphix iso this way two years ago
[10:03] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, didn't work?
[10:03] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, get xfsprogs
[10:03] <nolimitsoya> theres a recoverytool
[10:03] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, What happened exactly?
[10:03] <nolimitsoya> also, check xfs documentation at sgi
[10:03] <swimin> anyone have any idea why my netboot installation fails whenever I try to start up the partition manager, after Ive detected the harddisks, if i look in /dev, the devices /dev/hda, and /dev/hdc are there, but nothing else is
[10:03] <Shadow420> I am trying to compile xkegs and when I use sudo make clean I get this make: *** No rule to make target `vars'.  Stop. any ideas?
[10:03] <Bubbadood> nolimitsoya thank you
[10:03] <simtower> what is the correct package to install a nfs server on ubuntu?
[10:03] <POVaddct> vcef: that was certainly an iso with a ramdisk mounted over it (unionfs)
[10:04] <Shadow420> and there is no pre-built package for this
[10:04] <ClayG> if Linux Torvalds and Richard Stallman got into a fight who would win?
[10:04] <Poromenos> the ninja
[10:04] <vcef> POVaddct: maybe so. but in the end there has to be written something
[10:04] <lekvar> ClayG: A fight over what? :)
[10:04] <nolimitsoya> linuz, without doubt
[10:04] <t> anyone here that can field a amavisd-new/spamasssassin question?
[10:04] <Poromenos> Is there any way to stop the middle mouse button from pasting?
[10:04] <ClayG> LT punked RTS on the movie
[10:04] <chuckyp> !nvs-user-server
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvs-user-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <vcef> heh, but it's long time ago, maybe I've just recreated that iso back then
[10:04] <Gobfrey> chuckyp: nope.  It prints the three lines that I typed into the Windows XP section, then it just sits there doing nothing.  If I unplug my primary hard disk, and make the secondary one primary, it boots to windows fine.
[10:04] <chuckyp> !nfs-user-server
[10:04] <host`> how can I tell what the current version of xinit is?
[10:05] <ubotu> nfs-user-server: User space NFS server. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2beta47-22 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 264 kB
[10:05] <ClayG> brought his kid out on stage while RTS is trying to talk to everyone, of coarse all the cheerleaders ran over to the kid and took pictures and RTS was foiled again!
[10:05] <lupine_85> RTS?
[10:05] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, well you reference to that disk is probably wrong.
[10:05] <host`> real time stratagy?
[10:05] <lupine_85> don't you mean... RMS... ?
[10:05] <Gobfrey> root (hd1,0)
[10:05] <ClayG> lekvar, a fight over calling th OS linux and possible RTS physically forcing Linux to add GNU to the source code, and announce it to everyone
[10:06] <lekvar> Say, I'm building a linux system and hoping to watch DVD's on my 1680x1050 display, and I'm wondering how well the available players scale the image.  I notice the display itself does so poorly, but I've seen it look good coming out of a powerbook or a Windows box w/ a decent nvidia card...
[10:06] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, that would be second drive first partition
[10:06] <Gobfrey> windows is on /dev/sdb1
[10:06] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, sorry, i got no clue as to fedoras packagingsystem, but try yum xfsprogs
[10:06] <nolimitsoya> (i cant pm, couze im not registrerad
[10:06] <ClayG> on a different note, doe3s anyone here own a HP DV2000/5000/6000?
[10:06] <nolimitsoya> *-a
[10:06] <Gobfrey> chuckyp: that's correct.
[10:07] <ianmacgregor> chuckyp: hdb1 ?
[10:07] <Shadow420> I am trying to compile xkegs and when I use sudo make clean I get this make: *** No rule to make target `vars'.  Stop. any ideas?
[10:07] <ClayG> I want one (BAD) but want to make sure it wokrs, as in all the bells and whistles, i heard one of the models the bluetooth doewsn't work with ubuntu
[10:07] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, hrm.. is it a sata drive?
[10:07] <lekvar> ClayG: I think just having the conflict on the subject exposes the relationship between the two quite adequately...
[10:07] <ianmacgregor> Shadow420: did you run configure first?
[10:07] <Gobfrey> chuckyp:  it's /dev/sdb1, but all the entries in GRB use hd - but linux boots fine with that.  And yes, they're SATA drives
[10:07] <crimsun> Jowi: yes, it was
[10:07] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, not sure about htat but just make sure you have makeactive and chainloader +1  under the windows one as well.
[10:08] <ClayG> lekvar, you could see RTS getting mad and half talking out of his nose on the movie
[10:08] <ClayG> lekvar, IOW agreed.
[10:08] <Shadow420> I am not sure
[10:08] <Gobfrey> chuckyp: I do.  those are the three lines in the windows menu section
[10:08] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, I don't have any experience with sata though.
[10:08] <Shadow420> how do I run it
[10:08] <lekvar> yea, speaking of movies!
[10:08] <Bensr20det> is there a way to reset all the pref. in rhythmbox?
[10:08] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:09] <ompaul> where is that bot?
[10:09] <chuckyp> Shadow420, make clean cleans up the source directory.
[10:09] <Cene> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 and am experiencing random X crashes, and can't find any solution to prevent them. Anyone can help or has the same problem?
[10:09] <chuckyp> Shadow420, did you compile with checkinstall or just install?
[10:09] <Gobfrey> chuckyp: when it was set up automaticall (many moons ago), it didn't do it this way, but I can't remember exactly how it did it.  I think it did something like swapping the hard disks.
[10:09] <vcef> do you guys know if (and when) will I be able to mount iso images in nautilus?
[10:10] <ClayG> lekvar, you are right it was a good movie, and im not sure if the hacker in the beginning that ends up getting killed is supposed to be Linus.  I do know that Halley Bary(sp) looked very good in it, and Travolta was awsome
[10:10] <Cene> X just shuts down without any warning
[10:10] <vcef> you know, clicky - click and there you go, you've just mounted your file to this directory ...
[10:10] <Shadow420> I haven't been able to install it
[10:10] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, well you should be able to do it the way you are trying but i'm just not sure of the pointer because its sata.  Can you post /boot/grub/menu.1st to pastebin let me take a look
[10:10] <host`> cene, first off, what desktop environment are you using?
[10:10] <inpherno> is Edgy considered to be at a useable state yet?
[10:10] <Cene> host`: Gnome
[10:10] <eXistenZ> What is the best way to get vim7 on ubuntu dapper?
[10:10] <chuckyp> inpherno, no its still beta
[10:10] <lekvar> ClayG: didn't see it.  missed which movie.  i'm just coincidentally trying to evaluate hardware and system options around the matter :)
[10:10] <lupine_85> inpherno: I consider it to be OK, but YMMV
[10:11] <ompaul> inpherno, it has not been released yet it willbe on the 20th
[10:11] <eXistenZ> compile from source?
[10:11] <lupine_85> apparently the kernel is b0rken right now, but I'm running my own ;)
[10:11] <Cene> And this happens like twice a day or more
[10:11] <LjL> inpherno: if you're prepared to see your system break completely at any given time, you can probably use it.
[10:11] <inpherno> well... i mean usable for a bleeding edge type guy like me... ie. i use firefox 2.0 and gaim 2.0 anyway
[10:11] <host`> Cene, have you tried 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'?
[10:11] <lekvar> *gets the feeling nvidia's a much safer choice in linux than ati*
[10:11] <chuckyp> Shadow420, well you typically run make clean after yo install it.
[10:11] <lupine_85> inpherno: "probably fine"
[10:11] <Cene> host`: yes. My system is fully updated. :)
[10:11] <inpherno> kk :)
[10:11] <ClayG> lekvar, it was a pain in the bottom(censors) to get it working for me, there seemed to always "be something missing"....for instance on some sites (89.com) when you wanted to watch a movie, it looked like it was loading it but then just stopped and didnt play
[10:11] <host`> then someone else will have to help you
[10:11] <lupine_85> it's unlikely that anything major (like, say, bash) is going to break this late in
[10:11] <chuckyp> Shadow420, what is it that you are trying to install again?  Did you check the repos to see if it was there.
[10:11] <lupine_85> #ubuntu+1 though, really
[10:11] <Heldon> anyone using RDP to get into ubuntu?  I can't get it to work right. Is there a firewall on ubuntu i need to add it to? i've done the remote destkop from ubuntu to allow
[10:12] <t> i've got a couple of mail servers running ubuntu/postfix/amavisd-new/spamassassin/the whole 9 yards. I've noticed that spamassassin only seems to print its scoring data to mail headers when something is classified as mail, the ubuntu wiki shows it printing for all messages (apparently), anyone have a clue what setting I may have borked up?
[10:12] <Cene> And X logs doesn't show anything strange. No errors or anything at all
[10:12] <ClayG> I dont know why it is so difficult, probally something to do with MS being the devil or whatever but it is a task just to get standard media to play at all
[10:12] <Shadow420> the Apple IIgs Emulator Kegs 0.91
[10:12] <host`> I'm going with chuckyp
[10:12] <lupine_85> ClayG: software licensing. Great stuff.
[10:12] <Shadow420> and I have checked in all of the repos nothing
[10:12] <host`> in Xorg.log or whatever the file is
[10:12] <zerotime> hi, I got a problem with amarok 1.4.3 in ubuntu edgy eft, amarok hangs when rescanning collection, (30 gb of mp3, all of them with tags and images)
[10:12] <LjL> !edgy > zerotime
[10:12] <zerotime> if any one can help
[10:13] <lekvar> ClayG: I never had a linux box that could handle it... tried to make it work on an ancient thinkpad for a while and gave up.  too little video ram!
[10:13] <ompaul> zerotime, the bot (ubotu) sent you a message, please read it
[10:13] <ClayG>  lekvar but you said you had windows also on another boot, that should be a godsend for certain tasks
[10:13] <zerotime> I have
[10:14] <zerotime> I have joined channel ubuntu+1
[10:14] <ClayG> I used to keep one just for my dvd stuff, converting and ripping or whatever
[10:14] <zerotime> thanks
[10:14] <ClayG> i had not seen anything thatr could rival tmpgenc
[10:14] <ompaul> np
[10:14] <sureshot> !aiglx
[10:14] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[10:14] <ClayG> but i thknk (of coarse reformatted and lost it) there was something almost as good
[10:14] <lekvar> ClayG: well, no, i bought a spiffy display and took it to a friend's place where were tried out games and movies on it on his XP machine...
[10:14] <Gobfrey> chuckyp: it's pasted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27027/
[10:14] <ClayG> tmpgenc already isn't the fastest but this was REAL slow
[10:15] <ClayG> on the other hand i was impressed with k9copy
[10:15] <lekvar> The video hardware market's seems little confusing right now from a linux PoV
[10:15] <Kim^J> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX Followed that guide... How can I check if AIGLX is installed?
[10:15] <LjL> !xgl
[10:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:15] <eXistenZ> does the freshnet vim work fine?
[10:16] <Kim^J> eXistenZ: Yes
[10:16] <inpherno> i've currently got an all-gtk desktop, but want to use kdevelop.... will installing and using a KDE app slow my system down?
[10:16] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, is your primary drive sata as well?
[10:16] <vcef> !edgy
[10:16] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:16] <Gobfrey> chuckyp: all two of my drives are Sata
[10:16] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, the drive ubuntu is on that is
[10:16] <sureshot> !wiki
[10:16] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[10:16] <vcef>  !schedule
[10:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:16] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[10:16] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[10:16] <POVaddct> Shadow420: did you read README.compile.txt ?
[10:17] <ompaul> vcef, ^^ please check the last one from ubotu
[10:17] <Shadow420> yeah
[10:17] <host`> !release
[10:17] <pascal> \q
[10:17] <vcef> ok, sorry ^_^
[10:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:17] <POVaddct> Shadow420: so you changed the vars symlink correctly?
[10:17] <eXistenZ> Kim^J, Which of these am I supposed to download: http://www.freshnet.org/debian/dapper/vim7/ ?
[10:17] <elfranger> I am going crazy here
[10:17] <ompaul> vcef, no issues, you know know it :)
[10:17] <Shadow420> it made the link
[10:17] <elfranger> no matter what I try, stupid proftpd wont start in inetd...
[10:18] <ompaul> elfranger, with what exactly, can you tell the channel
[10:18] <elfranger> what am I doing wrong?
[10:18] <POVaddct> Shadow420: no. YOU must set the link
[10:18] <ClayG> need kratom
[10:18] <Kim^J> eXistenZ: Add the repo instead.
[10:18] <Heldon> anyone know of a good groupware that can be installed on ubuntu? IE like Microsoft's Sharepoint? I know I said the devil's name
[10:18] <Gobfrey> the annoying thing is that I know if I installed ubuntu, it would set it up automatically.  Why isn't there a utility out there that can detect all bootable partitions and reconfigute GRUB for you?
[10:18] <Jowi> crimsun, the system seem to detect the stac92xx soundcard just fine. alsamixer let me set the volume levels. I killed esd just-in-case. everything seem to work on screen, but I don't get any sound output. do you have any ideas of what can be causing this?
[10:18] <elfranger> the inetd.conf says : ftp     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/proftpd
[10:19] <elfranger> and, proftpd.conf is set to servertype inetd
[10:19] <crimsun> Jowi: well, first update to 2.6.15-27
[10:19] <Bubbadood> than you nolimitsoya .. there was a fedora release ... its scanning for backup/secondary magic number now using xfs_repair (im crossing my fingers)
[10:19] <Shadow420> when I ran rm vars; ln -s vars_x86linux vars
[10:19] <ompaul> elfranger, there is a proftpd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ProFTP
[10:20] <elfranger> ompaul: thanks, looking
[10:20] <host`> question, if I install Edgy, would I still keep my current ubuntu version as backup?
[10:20] <Jowi> crimsun, can't unfortunatley. 2.6.15-27 does not have any linux-dri-modules-xxxx
[10:20] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, The only thing I would try is not using the chainloader command  i.e. comment it out and see how windows acts.
[10:20] <bulmer> how may I assign another partition for /swap and then remove the older one that is smaller size?
[10:20] <LjL> host`: "would", or "should"?
[10:21] <POVaddct> Shadow420: 22:19 < Shadow420> when I ran rm vars; ln -s vars_x86linux vars   ...what did happen then?
[10:21] <Heldon> anyone?
[10:21] <constricted> every time i use the pachage manager it returns a error... but appears to install stuff right
[10:21] <host`> would I be able to keep it
[10:21] <LjL> host`: anyway, you probably shouldn't install edgy to start with
[10:21] <LjL> host`: only by making a separate partition for edgy.
[10:21] <elfranger> ompaul: not much info there...
[10:21] <Newbi8> Hello!Anyone who knows of a good p2p filesharing prog for Ubuntu?And who can help me install it?
[10:21] <Shadow420> it made the link when I ran that command
[10:21] <host`> why shouldn't I install it?
[10:21] <chuckyp> !tell Newbi8 about p2p
[10:21] <LjL> !p2p > newbi8
[10:21] <Shadow420> then I typed make
[10:21] <LjL> !edgy > host`
[10:21] <POVaddct> Shadow420: works for me
[10:22] <Gobfrey> chuckyp: I'm looking a the GRUB documentation page, and with Windows, it recommends using map to swap the hard disks around.
[10:22] <LjL> host`: because it's not released. because it's only supposed to be run by testers.
[10:22] <Gobfrey> I'm going to have a play, and if I have no luck, I'll be back.
[10:22] <Gobfrey> thanks for the help.
[10:22] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, yeah  i'm not sure thats wierd.  I found a post on it here. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/59737-after-windows-xp-installed-2nd-drive-can-no-longer-boot-fedora-core-4-a.html
[10:22] <Shadow420> now I got a bunch of .o files now
[10:22] <crimsun> Jowi: linux-dri?
[10:23] <crimsun> Jowi: who provides them?
[10:23] <Newbi8> chuckyp: Thanks, but how do I install it?I've tried to install frostwire but it doesn't start!
[10:23] <nolimitsoya_> Bubbadood, sry, cat jacked och the modem :P
[10:23] <nolimitsoya_> *out
[10:23] <benlake> anyone know if you can create a linear raid using other raids via mdadm?
[10:23] <netg> hi
[10:23] <POVaddct> Shadow420: and in the kegs.0.91 directory you should have a xkegs executable now
[10:23] <PerhamX> hello guys
[10:23] <Bubbadood> thank you nolimitsoya .. there was a fedora release ... its scanning for backup/secondary magic number now using xfs_repair (im crossing my fingers)
[10:23] <chuckyp> Shadow420, usually when you install from source you ./configure then you make  then sudo make install or sudo make checkinstall I prefer using checkinstall because it creates a deb for easy removal.  Typically source packages have a README documentation in the tar ball and INSTALL which would be installation instructions.
[10:23] <Shadow420> ok I will check
[10:23] <netg> i'm trying to compile nozomi module
[10:23] <elfranger> ompaul: Do you know about this? I am getting nothing from the link you gave me...
[10:24] <nolimitsoya_> Bubbadood, best of luck :)
[10:24] <chuckyp> Newbi8, ?
[10:24] <PerhamX> what's the command if i want to download andinstall dvd support on my ubuntu?
[10:24] <Bubbadood> no more XFS for me ;)
[10:24] <hagbard_> What can be the problem if X can't find any screens ?
[10:24] <POVaddct> chuckyp: looks like the kegs makefile is missing a install target
[10:24] <chuckyp> Newbi8, that page should have directions about how to install etc...
[10:24] <Jowi> crimsun, pool/aiglx/l/linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-25/linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-25-686_20060705-0aiglx~compiz1_i386.deb (think that's xgl.compiz.info or maybe ubuntu.compiz.net?)
[10:24] <chuckyp> POVaddct, ahh
[10:24] <netg> I get this error  /usr/src/modules/nozomi/nozomi.c: In function receive_data:              
[10:24] <netg>   /usr/src/modules/nozomi/nozomi.c:966: error: struct tty_struct has no    
[10:24] <netg>   member named flip
[10:25] <Newbi8> Chuckyp: I'll give it another go!Thanks!:)
[10:25] <PerhamX> what's the command if i want to download andinstall dvd support on my ubuntu?
[10:25] <POVaddct> chuckyp: i just compiled it here. can run the executable from the source dir with  ./xkegs
[10:25] <chuckyp> POVaddct, lol
[10:25] <gothenburg> :P
[10:25] <nolimitsoya_> tell me how i goes, will you :)
[10:25] <gothenburg> xD
[10:25] <POVaddct> chuckyp: however i have no apple gs software here :)
[10:25] <PerhamX> somebody help me,what's the command if i want to download and install DVD support on my ubuntu?
[10:25] <chuckyp> !dvd > PerhamX
[10:25] <Shadow420> I found the exe thanks
[10:25] <chuckyp> !patience
[10:25] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:25] <Shadow420> later
[10:26] <PerhamX> but it says bash: command not found
[10:26] <Jowi> crimsun, seems like a must-have if I want to use aiglx (xorg-air)
[10:26] <chuckyp> PerhamX, says command not found for what?
[10:26] <PerhamX> i want to play dvd movies using the default movi player
[10:26] <chuckyp> PerhamX, did you follow the guide from ubotu
[10:27] <PerhamX> where is it?
[10:27] <elfranger> crap, back to standalone proftpd...
[10:27] <chuckyp> !dvd
[10:27] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:27] <elfranger> stupid inetd stuff
[10:27] <nolimitsoya__> Bubbadood, im sure you already know, but keeping backups is a good habbit. :) a dvdburner i quite cheap these days. id recommend getting one, and a couple of dvdrw, for that purpouse :)
[10:28] <Bubbadood> yeah my NAS is RAID 5
[10:28] <PerhamX> !mp3
[10:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <df> Winamp not Running
[10:28] <chuckyp> df, ?
[10:28] <Bubbadood> I was moving files temporarily using the USB port on my NAS .. and now I'm paying the price
[10:28] <joe_t> hi. Ive not long updated to EdgyEftBeta semi painlessly. My CDRW/DVDRW drive on my laptop is now not recognised. Looking at dmesg showed ide1 is not getting searched. To fix this am I best d/ling a vanilla kernel and recompiling? Current kernel version is 2.6.17-10-generic. Any help would be great thanks!
[10:28] <fraggsta> Has something broken direct rendering for nvidia cards in edgy today?  Because it just stopped working for me.
[10:28] <chuckyp> df, did you check out xmms if you are used to winamp you might find it more your style.
[10:28] <LjL> !edgy > joe_t
[10:29] <chuckyp> !edgy > joe_t
[10:29] <nolimitsoya__> Bubbadood, raid is not a backup. :) only a way to get online quickly, in the event of disk failure
[10:29] <chuckyp> LjL, arghhh beatme
[10:29] <joe_t> cheers
[10:29] <rambo3> joe_t, falling back to older kernel ?
[10:29] <elfranger> I have an 80MB mysql file that is a backup from my server. I have transferred the file to the new server, how may I best import it?
[10:29] <Outerlimit> I just made my parition bigger by first using ghost 4 linux to do a raw backup of my current one, deleting the current partition and making a new one out of all the freespace, using ghost 4 linux to do a raw restore of my data.  Everything is working fine, However linux does not see the new free space... it only thinks i have ~1.9gigs.  I am using ext3 file system.  I tried doing a fsck.ext3 /dev/sda3 and tune2js -f /dev/sda3 from a live Ubun
[10:29] <Outerlimit> tu disk.  it just told me the device already has a journal.  Any suggestions?
[10:30] <joe_t> no kernel starts fine, just no cd/dvd modules loaded infact no /dev/hdb
[10:30] <Bubbadood> well for storage purposes the RAID 5 is ok for us .. but you are right I have about 30 DVD9 blanks ... time to start using them!
[10:30] <joe_t> rambo3: ^^
[10:30] <Ninja562> Hello, what is the apt-get switch to fix broken packages?
[10:30] <SB|nblracer> pike_ or any one elese, how can i delete a partiotion
[10:30] <yokobr> hi guys
[10:30] <elfranger> man apt-get
[10:30] <SB|nblracer> Fdisk says unable to open
[10:30] <yokobr> got a big problem here...
[10:31] <chuckyp> !ask > yokobr
[10:31] <ianmacgregor> sudo apt-get -f
[10:31] <theine> Hi, where should I go for Edgy support?
[10:31] <LjL> !edgy
[10:31] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:31] <Jowi> crimsun, found this one https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/45841 but it's not assigned to anyone
[10:31] <yokobr> i spend much time on it and it cant be solved
[10:31] <eedge> Hey, simple question: can someone forward me a clean sources.list for edgy...
[10:31] <theine> Cheers
[10:31] <b08y> does anyone know, how to paste ascii symblos in gtk interface, like u do with ctrl+alt+126 in windows
[10:31] <chuckyp> !edgy > eedge
[10:31] <yokobr> my k6 doesnt boot.....its a sis 530 pcchips mobo
[10:31] <ianmacgregor> eedge: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:32] <eedge> Opps, thanks chuckyp :)
[10:32] <yokobr> and it just boots from my hd..
[10:32] <Ninja562> -f, thanks
[10:32] <yokobr> so i cant install a new os in there
[10:32] <eedge> even better ianmacgregor, thanks a bundle.
[10:32] <Jowi> crimsun, unfortunatley I have not be able to get sound at all and have no usb sound device to test with (internal speaker + normal headphones only)
[10:32] <ianmacgregor> eedge: I just looked and that source-o-matic page doesn't have a selection for edgy :(
[10:32] <benlake> anyone have any working knowledge of mdadm?
[10:33] <chuckyp> yokobr, what are you saying you can boot to cd?  and you want to install ubuntu?
[10:33] <dark_light> yokobr, you can install a new os booting by HD
[10:33] <eedge> Not it doesn't, thanks anyway :)
[10:33] <ianmacgregor> You're welcome :)
[10:33] <zOrK> I need tcltls to install amsn, which packages should I apt-get?
[10:33] <chuckyp> eedge, people will be able to help you in #ubuntu+1
[10:33] <rambo3> Jowi what module is it using
[10:33] <ianmacgregor> eedge: I bet it will have it after the 28th :)
[10:34] <chuckyp> zOrK, isn't amsn in the repos?
[10:34] <chuckyp> !amsn
[10:34] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[10:34] <chuckyp> zOrK, yeah just enable universe and sudo aptitude install amsn   it will install the dependencies for you.
[10:34] <zOrK> nop chuckyp..
[10:34] <zOrK> is not :(
[10:34] <pontusen> heya. I have a problem with firefox. When i browse with one resolution(1280x1024) firefox won't show sites normal, the text is disorientated. When i higher the resolution everything works as normal. please help me!?
[10:34] <chuckyp> zOrK, you need to enable the universe repo
[10:34] <SB|nblracer> why wehen i do fdisk /dev/hda it syas unable to open
[10:35] <zOrK> ok SR
[10:35] <zOrK> got ti
[10:35] <chuckyp> !repos > zOrK
[10:35] <sobersabre> hi, guys. when is planned the next 6.10 release ?
[10:35] <chuckyp> !edgy > sobersabre
[10:35] <zOrK> ubotu!, lol, very creative.
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol, very creative. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <nolimitsoya___> Bubbadood, hows your recovery going? :)
[10:35] <GhostFreeman> !xfce
[10:35] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:36] <zOrK> thanks again chuckyp
[10:36] <chuckyp> np
[10:36] <Newbi8> How do I uninstall a program??I'm really trying to get rid of Frostwire
[10:36] <Outerlimit> !edgy > outerlimit
[10:36] <pontusen> I have a problem with firefox. When i browse with one resolution(1280x1024) firefox won't show sites normal, the text is disorientated. When i higher the resolution everything works as normal. please help me!?
[10:36] <chuckyp> Newbi8, sudo aptitude remove frostwire
[10:36] <chuckyp> Newbi8, or if you used apt-get sudo apt-get remove frostwire
[10:37] <rambo3> !channel doesn't  support automatix
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about channel doesn't  support automatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <yokobr> anyone knows a alternative good, clean and beaultiful wm?
[10:37] <sladen> anto9us: XFCE?
[10:37] <chuckyp> !xfce > yokobr
[10:37] <kmaynard> yokobr, kde, gnome, xfce4, fluxbox, windowmaker...
[10:37] <Outerlimit> !partitions > outerlimit
[10:37] <Outerlimit> !ext3 > outerlimit
[10:38] <ianmacgregor> Outerlimit: You can /query ubotu  and do your searching in another tab :)
[10:38] <Newbi8> chuckyp:Thanks again!:)
[10:38] <Outerlimit> hehe, thanks
[10:38] <kmaynard> i see Outerlimit is doing his homework :)
[10:38] <chuckyp> thats good
[10:38] <chuckyp> Newbi8, np
[10:38] <kmaynard> thats awseome
[10:38] <Outerlimit> hah, yeah im trying to find my answer...
[10:38] <kmaynard> awesome*
[10:38] <ianmacgregor> Outerlimit: I wouldn't normally say anthing but this channel is often busy :)
[10:38] <tech__> Hi all.  New to X-Chat and looks good for what I need it.  How can I change my PC name for remote connection?
[10:39] <Jowi> rambo3, sorry was away for a second. what module does what use? the soundcard?
[10:39] <kmaynard> 90% of the time in here its, "can yu teach me ssh?!"
[10:39] <kmaynard> or whatever
[10:39] <asmo674hurt> how to change splash image?
[10:39] <Outerlimit> ianmacgregor, thats fine.  i know it is, and definatly understand.  I assume that was the purpose of the > :)
[10:39] <chuckyp> usually people don't even try they don't even google or anything they just ask in here.  Then when I google and see the first response would have helped them I can only shake my head.
[10:39] <nolimitsoya> sry, dropped out. hows it going Bubbadood?
[10:39] <rambo3> Jowi, yes
[10:39] <tech__> I get a localostname:0 and cannot seem to change it.
[10:40] <kmaynard> chuckyp wins #ubuntu for the day
[10:40] <chuckyp> lol
[10:40] <Outerlimit> alright, i am having no luck...
[10:40] <Outerlimit> I just made my parition bigger by first using ghost 4 linux to do a raw backup of my current one, deleting the current partition and making a new one out of all the freespace, using ghost 4 linux to do a raw restore of my data.  Everything is working fine, However linux does not see the new free space... it only thinks i have ~1.9gigs.  I am using ext3 file system.  I tried doing a fsck.ext3 /dev/sda3 and tune2js -f /dev/sda3 from a live Ubun
[10:40] <Outerlimit> tu disk.  it just told me the device already has a journal.  Any suggestions?
[10:40] <Outerlimit> i was thinking mabye i need to reset thge journal
[10:40] <xav> chuckyp, but you have google skillz
[10:40] <Outerlimit> or scan the drive again, or something...
[10:40] <chuckyp> Dunno where to begin on that one Outerlimit
[10:41] <ianmacgregor> Outerlimit: What's the actual problem?
[10:41] <gl0be> Hello,  Can somebody help me remember the command to reconfigure xserver?
[10:41] <Jowi> rambo3, "snd 60004 6 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer"
[10:41] <sobersabre> dpkg-reconfigure
[10:41] <asmo674hurt> how to change splash image whic shows after login screen???
[10:41] <Outerlimit> ianmacgregor, linux says it is using up more space than it actually is
[10:41] <chuckyp> gl0be, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:41] <kitche> !hostname > tech__
[10:41] <Outerlimit> i should have about 20 gigs of freespace
[10:41] <Outerlimit> it says i only have ~2gig
[10:41] <ianmacgregor> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:41] <ClayG> anyone here try kratom 2.0
[10:41] <ClayG> ?
[10:41] <gl0be> chuckyp: thanks
[10:41] <Gobfrey> chuckyp: no luck! :(  I think it should be [ map (hd0) (hd1) \n map (hd1) (hd0) \n rootnoverify (hd1,0) \n makeactive \n chainloader +1 \n boot ] , but that doesn't work.  It give me an "unsupported executable" error message
[10:41] <chuckyp> !anyone > ClayG
[10:42] <kmaynard> Outerlimit, ghost 4 linux? have you looked at the partition in gparted or cfdisk to see if it's reporting correctly?
[10:42] <Outerlimit> The original partition size was 19, now it is about 47
[10:42] <Outerlimit> kmaynard, it is reporting correctly
[10:42] <chuckyp> Gobfrey, hrm... perhaps some of the grub experts lurking around will know more.  or if there is a #grub channel dunno
[10:42] <kmaynard> Outerlimit, how are you getting your numbers?
[10:42] <Outerlimit> kmaynard, gparted
[10:42] <Gobfrey> chukyp: ah, so there is.  Thanks.
[10:43] <chuckyp> Adios everyone
[10:43] <kitche> Gobfrey: ask in #grub but make sure that you format that map stuff right since that looks horrible when you ask it
[10:43] <Bubbadood> it applied some changes no
[10:43] <Bubbadood> it applied some changes nolimitsoya
[10:43] <maccam94> is there an active edgy channel?
[10:43] <LjL> !edgy > maccam94
[10:43] <kitche> maccam94: #ubuntu+1
[10:43] <ianmacgregor> maccam94: #ubuntu+1
[10:43] <nolimitsoya> good :) get any files back in a useable state?
[10:43] <Outerlimit> kmaynard, Gparted says current partition size is 41.93 and that 39.82 of that is in use.  Which is impossible because my previous partition was 19 gigs.
[10:43] <eedge> Was just typing it, and got beaten by 3 people.
[10:43] <ClayG> uh ok, lol is kratom 2.0 good?
[10:43] <eedge> #ubuntu+1 that is.
[10:44] <Bubbadood> telling me to mount and then unmount before attemting to use the repair utility again
[10:44] <ClayG> dn
[10:44] <Bubbadood> shoudl I bother doing that or just throw it back on my NAS
[10:44] <|tom|> test
[10:44] <kmaynard> Outerlimit, go to a terminal and try  df -h
[10:44] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, use umount to unmount
[10:44] <Bubbadood> its not mounted
[10:44] <josh_> where do i change my computers "workgroup"?
[10:44] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, ah ok
[10:44] <Outerlimit> kmaynard, /dev/sda3              19G   17G  1.2G  94% /
[10:44] <ClayG> who designed ubotu?
[10:45] <Outerlimit> osnaps
[10:45] <josh_> it stuck me in workgroup and my network uses mshome
[10:45] <nolimitsoya> well, mount it, and see what gives :)
[10:45] <ClayG> as far as made his/her respsonses
[10:45] <Outerlimit> kmaynard, I forgot, i did notice that before.
[10:45] <rambo3> Jowi,  sometimes you can add option in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base <- make your own copy from alsa and see option in terminal buy typing: modinfo snd_hda_intel
[10:45] <Bubbadood> mount /dev/sda1 /testing
[10:45] <Bubbadood> is that the command i forget
[10:45] <sureshot> hey all i know this is off topic but the aiglx channal seems to be vacant so can someone answer this questio...i need to know what kind of compatablity the ati mobility x600 xe has for aiglx
[10:45] <Outerlimit> kmaynard, it seems to me that ext3 or linux is not realising there is now more freespace than before
[10:45] <k31th> Im trying to make a script how do i get it to take an input after the script like what passwd would do E.G  changepasswd.sh username newpasswd
[10:45] <josh_> anyone?
[10:45] <kmaynard> huh
[10:45] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, sudo mount /dev/sda1 -t xfs /home/bubbadood/thefolderijustcreated :)
[10:46] <LjL> ClayG, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:46] <kmaynard> Outerlimit, that's odd...i've copied over entire partitions before, and it just worked...
[10:46] <Bubbadood> thank you
[10:46] <Outerlimit> Hmmm
[10:46] <kmaynard> Outerlimit, it seems that the image recreated your old partition...?
[10:46] <Jowi> rambo3, gonna look into that
[10:46] <josh_> anyone know the answer?
[10:46] <rambo3> Jowi, you can test what works buy unloading and loading module :sudo  rmmod snd_hda_intel && sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel position_fix=1
[10:47] <ClayG> LjL, I'm doing that now
[10:47] <gl0be> how can I enable remote ssh into my box from command line (no xserv)
[10:47] <uter> hi i habe a question about winTv
[10:47] <Outerlimit> kmaynard, not sure.... when i look in GParted it tells me that the partition is 41.93gigs, with no freespace
[10:47] <josh_> globe "ssh user@host"
[10:47] <kmaynard> Outerlimit, worst case scenarion, backup all of /home and reinstall... works like a charm, and all your settings are instact
[10:47] <Jowi> rambo3, is that before making any changes to alsa-base or after?
[10:47] <josh_> how do i change my workgroup?
[10:47] <kmaynard> scenario! d$$$%^^ i cant type today
[10:47] <Outerlimit> kmaynard, i may do that...
[10:48] <kmaynard> Outerlimit, i keep /home on a seperate partition, so reinstalls are trivial
[10:48] <kmaynard> other than the time...
[10:48] <rambo3> Jowi, thats just temporery untill you reboot. if you want changes permanent then edit alsa-base
[10:48] <Draucon> when is edgy supposed to come out?
[10:48] <nolimitsoya> Outerlimit, are you sure you are running the latest version of gparted?
[10:48] <Outerlimit> kmaynard, i wanted to not have to reinstall all the packages agian though.... Is there a way to make a list of packages i have installed?
[10:48] <Jowi> rambo3, ah. hang
[10:48] <gl0be> josh_: thanks.  but I mean to enable ssh'ing into the box I am at currently...or is it enabled by default?
[10:48] <apecat> gl0be: you need to install openssh-server
[10:48] <nolimitsoya> and have you rescanned the drives?
[10:48] <kmaynard> Outerlimit, i feel ya
[10:48] <gl0be> apecat: apt-get?
[10:48] <Outerlimit> kmaynard, i didn't go with seperate partitions cuz i had no idea of what sizes to make :(
[10:48] <apecat> gl0be: yup, apt-get install openssh-server
[10:48] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, what gives :)
[10:48] <Outerlimit> nolimitsoya, i am fairly certain... i can run an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade if u'd like
[10:48] <nolimitsoya> Outerlimit, about 5gb for /, and the rest for /home
[10:49] <Outerlimit> qtparted shows the same info
[10:49] <Jowi> rambo3, module snd_hda_intel is in use. can't remove it
[10:49] <Outerlimit> nolimitsoya, that will be enough for all the aps i will install and everything?  i thought /usr/bin grew farily large.
[10:49] <Ninja562> That Synaptic package manager is slick!
[10:49] <nolimitsoya> Outerlimit, did you commit the changes you did on the live gparted, or did you forget?
[10:49] <Outerlimit> nolimitsoya, i commited them.
[10:49] <gl0be> apecat: okay, thanks.  Is that configurabel from the term?
[10:49] <nolimitsoya> Outerlimit, an apt-get clean one in a while will sort you out. :)
[10:50] <rambo3> Jowi, stop alsa first
[10:50] <ianmacgregor> Outerlimit: Did you install everything using sunaptic?
[10:50] <bulmer> apecat: umm sshd is not installed as part of installation?
[10:50] <apecat> bulmer: hmm don't think so
[10:50] <nolimitsoya> Outerlimit, then do the whole thing over, and see what happens :)
[10:50] <ianmacgregor> bulmer: No, you'll have to install it
[10:50] <apecat> gl0be: yes, take a look in /etc/ssh
[10:50] <bulmer> ahh okay..thanks
[10:50] <cr3> how can I enable X connections to my machine?
[10:50] <Outerlimit> ianmacgregor, somethings i installed using apt-get in the terminal and others using synaptic.
[10:51] <nolimitsoya> oh, and Outerlimit are you using a filesystem that supports shrinking?
[10:51] <Outerlimit> nolimitsoya, i am using ext3
[10:51] <Jowi> rambo3, alsa stopped, same error
[10:51] <apecat> gl0be: the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config that is, but the ssh server should be up and running directly after install
[10:51] <constricted> what are some good pachages like easyubuntu? (or a website with popular massinstall pagages)
[10:51] <Outerlimit> nolimitsoya, thats why i thought making it reload its journal (or whatever it can do...) would fix the problem.
[10:51] <ianmacgregor> Outerlimit: For the stuff you installed with synaptic, have a look at the files in /root/.synaptic/log. you can see them with: gksudo nautilus
[10:51] <kitche> cr3: you want full gui or just programs? for X connections
[10:51] <apecat> constricted: automatix
[10:51] <Bubbadood> sudo mount /dev/sda1 -t xfs /home
[10:51] <cr3> kitche: just programs for X connections
[10:52] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, no, thats not right :)
[10:52] <nolimitsoya> that will brake things
[10:52] <Bubbadood> .. /dev/sda1 : Cannot find superblock
[10:52] <nolimitsoya> make a folder in you home, and mount there
[10:52] <kitche> cr3: set up sshd and you will have to edit certain lines in it's configuration
[10:52] <Bubbadood> yeah sorry I did
[10:52] <Bubbadood> sudo mount /dev/sda1 -t xfs /home/please
[10:52] <Bubbadood> .. /dev/sda1 : Cannot find superblock
[10:52] <cr3> kitche: there's more than x forwarding, I think, don't I need to configure my X server as well to allow network connections?
[10:52] <nolimitsoya> ok, and do you get any readable data?
[10:53] <nolimitsoya> ok, do the recovery again
[10:53] <nolimitsoya> unmount first :)
[10:53] <tech__> for some reason my hostname has changed and to permanently change it I must be root.  How can I become root?
[10:53] <rambo3> Jowi, try it in sudo -i
[10:53] <Bubbadood> ok
[10:53] <lupine_85> tech__: with difficulty ;)
[10:53] <kitche> cr3: nope since X is already setup to do that
[10:53] <lupine_85> rebooting into recovery mode would work
[10:53] <constricted> ah ok thanx
[10:53] <nolimitsoya> and Bubbadood, when you mount, try doing it read only :)
[10:53] <Jowi> rambo3, no go
[10:53] <nolimitsoya> i think adding a -rw after the -t xfs should do the trick
[10:54] <rambo3> then edit alsabase or ask someone who know why its not unloading
[10:54] <nolimitsoya> *sry, -ro
[10:54] <Jowi> never had problems removing a module before
[10:54] <tech__> Lets do it!
[10:54] <woland_> hi. can anyone help with ipsec (esp/manual keying/transport mode) using setkey?
[10:54] <Jowi> k rambo3 thanks for the pointers, much appreciated
[10:54] <apecat> constricted: for more specific help, look here http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_Automatix2_with_Apt
[10:54] <lupine_85> tech__: as in, you would have needed to set a root password while sudo was working...
[10:54] <lupine_85> as it is, your only option is to reboot
[10:54] <lupine_85> which is really, really, really stupid
[10:55] <constricted> thanks
[10:55] <kitche> jowi: you can't remove the sound module sicne if X is up probably your window manager sound daemon is running
[10:55] <tech__> Do you mean to say tha, I would I have to re-install?
[10:55] <adamantas> I like to beat women
[10:56] <LjL> tech__: no you don't. he said reboot. reboot into recovery mode, and you'll have root there
[10:56] <kitche> tech__: use sudo or gtksudo
[10:56] <kitche> opps gksudo that is :)
[10:56] <nolimitsoya> tech__, you can always fire up a live system and do all the editing from there, if things are realy screwed up
[10:56] <gl0be> apecat: thanks for the tips
[10:57] <Jowi> kitche, no sound deamon should be running. will leave xorg to test. brb
[10:57] <apecat> gl0be: np :)
[10:58] <gl0be> apecat: yes indeed, it appears to be working.
[10:58] <apecat> okays
[10:58] <gl0be> thanks alot
[10:58] <uter> hi can somebody helps me with my tv-card ? i got in dmesg only wirred informations ;)
[10:58] <tech__> Oh!  Linux is all new to me and must play the Admin role, so my terminology is scarce.  Thanks.
[10:59] <nolimitsoya> tech__, a live system is what you get when you boot the install cd, without installing to disc
[10:59] <nolimitsoya> from there you can mount you harddrives, and change whatever you want :)
[10:59] <constricted> Unpacking automatix2 (from .../automatix2_1.0-1.9-6.06dapper%5fi386_i386.deb) ...
[10:59] <constricted> Setting up automatix2 (1.0-1.9-6.06dapper_i386) ...
[10:59] <constricted> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed
[11:00] <elfranger> I have moved from a slackware server to an ubuntu server... when launching the sites, all norwegian characters are screwed... got any idea where I need to fix?
[11:00] <tech__> So, if I reboot this machine I'm working on and go live, I can then become root and....
[11:00] <constricted> huh?
[11:00] <sheriff> what r the diferrences between desktop cd and alternate cd?
[11:01] <kitche> sheriff: desktop cd is like a live cd where alternate cd is how debian install is
[11:01] <nolimitsoya> sheriff, alternate is a textmode installer, desktop is a fully working live cd
[11:01] <ianmacgregor> sheriff: Alternate CD has a text-base installer, desktop has gui
[11:01] <totaka> Hi, I use vi, it automatically put "#" if I type "#" in previous line. Can anybody teach me how to disable this?
[11:01] <Bubbadood> when I got the superblock error .. it never atually mounted
[11:01] <Bubbadood> actually
[11:01] <sheriff> well then i wanna install it to my system so i have to download alternate one?
[11:01] <Bubbadood> so there is nothing to unmount
[11:01] <nolimitsoya> ok :)
[11:02] <apecat> sheriff: the desktop cd is going to be *slow* to use for install with less than 256 megabytes of RAM
[11:02] <ianmacgregor> sheriff: Desktop CD has a gui installer, but I don't know how reliable it is
[11:02] <LjL> !alternate
[11:02] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:02] <cyfr> Hello can anyone help me? I dont understand how to install the icon theme here: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38433725/ dragging it in to theme manager says 'invalid file format'
[11:02] <apecat> ianmacgregor: sheriff the desktop cd has a perfectly reliable installer. its painfully slow to boot and use though
[11:03] <ianmacgregor> apecat: Ahh, thanks for the info
[11:03] <constricted> when i try to use automatrix it says to close other package managers first, but i have none open
[11:03] <ianmacgregor> I haven't ever used it
[11:03] <nolimitsoya> also, if there is any need for advanced options or lvm, the desktopis a nogo
[11:03] <kmaynard> i prefer the alternate cd
[11:03] <ianmacgregor> constricted: automatix is not supported in here
[11:03] <sheriff> ubotu: i tried to boot it but there r some choises to select and i select the first one to install but it didnt start i mean it always gave IO error
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i tried to boot it but there r some choises to select and i select the first one to install but it didnt start i mean it always gave IO error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <apecat> ianmacgregor: yeah, i'm not using it either. it's ppretty wacky to provide only the desktop installer on the cds that u ship to people, i mean lots of people will want to install on old slow computers
[11:04] <LjL> sheriff: ubotu is not a human being.
[11:04] <ianmacgregor> apecat: Good point
[11:04] <apecat> *that they ship
[11:04] <ianmacgregor> sheriff: ubotu is a bot
[11:04] <kitche> Totakasheriff: probably a bad media
[11:04] <LjL> sheriff: use the Desktop CD to install Ubuntu, unless you have compelling reasons to do otherwise.
[11:05] <sheriff> LjL : but it didnt start i mean i selected the first choise
[11:05] <sheriff> but it gave an error
[11:05] <LjL> sheriff: what error
[11:05] <lupine_85> Use the alt-install CD unless you can't cope without a pretty GUI ;)
[11:05] <apecat> sheriff: how much memory do you have?
[11:05] <sheriff> it tired to mount my hard drives on hda
[11:05] <sheriff> 2 giga
[11:06] <apecat> ok
[11:06] <LjL> sheriff: what was the error message
[11:06] <sheriff> LjL : it was like it couldnt mount hda but im gonna install it sda
[11:07] <sheriff> in d
[11:07] <sheriff> sda
[11:07] <LjL> sheriff: wait a moment, was the actual Live CD that failed to load, or just the installer failed?
[11:08] <sheriff> LjL: the first choise was Try to install or boot ubuntu and i selected it
[11:08] <SB|nblracer> i think libux hats me
[11:08] <LjL> sheriff: yes. and then you got an error?
[11:08] <SB|nblracer> it wont let me oppen my secound harddrive
[11:08] <Simian__> .
[11:08] <sheriff> LjL: yes it tried to mount hda but i dony have any drive on Hda
[11:08] <LjL> !ntfs > SB|nblracer
[11:09] <sheriff> LjL: is that the command?
[11:09] <SB|nblracer> LjL it is not ntfs
[11:09] <SB|nblracer> it ext3
[11:09] <SB|nblracer> it from a previous installl
[11:09] <LjL> SB|nblracer: and what happens when you try to mount it
[11:09] <SB|nblracer> that i dont need
[11:10] <abel> h
[11:10] <SB|nblracer> it mounts fine
[11:10] <SB|nblracer> i also tryed
[11:10] <SB|nblracer> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M
[11:10] <LjL> sheriff: no. i don't know what your problem is. perhaps if you could write down the exact error message, we could google it a little. but right now i have no clue
[11:10] <SB|nblracer> i mean hdb!!!
[11:11] <LjL> SB|nblracer: so, "fdisk /dev/hdb" results in an error?
[11:11] <karel> i cant use lvm on a fresh edgy install, i get:  vgscan
[11:11] <karel> No program "vgscan" found for your current version of LVM
[11:11] <karel> what can i do?
[11:11] <sheriff> LjL: i'll install ubuntu to sda but it tried to mount hda but i dont have any hda drive
[11:11] <karel> is LVM broken in egdy?
[11:11] <javiolo> !skype
[11:11] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:11] <SB|nblracer> LjL yes, says unable to open
[11:11] <poll> !ADDON
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ADDON - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <LjL> sheriff: i understood that.
[11:12] <sheriff> ok i'll write the error
[11:12] <LjL> SB|nblracer: well, of course you'd have to be root for that to work. are you?
[11:12] <poll> !list
[11:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:12] <SB|nblracer> how do i know if im in root LjL
[11:12] <karel> anyone using LVM on edgy?
[11:12] <LjL> SB|nblracer: the right command to type is "sudo fdisk /dev/hdb"
[11:12] <LjL> !root > SB|nblracer
[11:13] <SB|nblracer> i tryed to login as root but wont let me
[11:13] <SB|nblracer> what is sudo?
[11:13] <LjL> SB|nblracer: and, besides, perhaps you could use "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb" instead, i find that more user friendly
[11:13] <LjL> SB|nblracer: the bot just told you
[11:13] <miL^eZ> hi sorry my english level but Im from France, How I can download music from www.goear.com
[11:13] <miL^eZ> Im trying but I dont found download button
[11:13] <SB|nblracer> cfdisk did not work, but i will try thgis sudo
[11:13] <kitche> miL^eZ umm you'll get the same anwser as you did in #gentoo
[11:13] <LjL> miL^eZ: is this an Ubuntu related question?
[11:14] <miL^eZ> kitche
[11:14] <miL^eZ> yes but they said me to make questio
[11:14] <LjL> SB|nblracer, sudo is simply the command you use in Ubuntu to do things as root. please read the bot-provided document. it's an important thing to know.
[11:14] <leakd>  n8
[11:14] <kitche> LjL: no it's not he asked the samething in #gentoo
[11:14] <miL^eZ> on france channel
[11:14] <miL^eZ> but
[11:14] <miL^eZ> anyone can answer
[11:14] <miL^eZ> my question
[11:14] <miL^eZ> and is very important
[11:14] <LjL> miL^eZ: no. not here, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you really want to ask it
[11:14] <Jowi> kitche, crimsun and (who else helped? forgot the nick): I just discovered that I do have sound. got it in console mode with mp3blaster so I tried it in Xorg and it works there to. installed xmms - no sound. configured the alsa output so it pointed to correct hardware and now I have sound there as well. just the gnome apps that is lacking it seems. must be a setting in gconf-editor somewhere...
[11:14] <LjL> this is strictly a support channel for Ubuntu
[11:15] <miL^eZ> pleeeassssseeeeee
[11:15] <miL^eZ> :((((((((
[11:15] <LjL> miL^eZ: for the last time: no.
[11:15] <ago> hi all
[11:15] <kitche> Jowi: yeah they might be using OSS but you can use aoss for them
[11:15] <asmo674hurt> how to run GConf (not in terminal)
[11:15] <ago> I installed python-xlib under edgy, but I am not able to use the module from python. Am I missing something?
[11:15] <LjL> asmo674hurt: the editor you mean? i think it's there in Preferences / Administration
[11:16] <Jowi> kitche, can't find the sound output-sink anymore in gnome. must have moved the setting somewhere (they always hide the useful stuff in new versions)
[11:16] <peladillas> #guadalines
[11:16] <LjL> peladillas: you should type "/join #channelname" to join a channel
[11:17] <yokobr> anyone knows an OS or distro that boots from disket?
[11:17] <LjL> yokobr: you mean floppy disk?
[11:17] <peladillas> #guadalinex
[11:18] <LjL> peladillas: did you hear me?
[11:18] <root__> crap... my ubuntu is all kinds of screwed up now
[11:18] <bretticus> yokobr:tomsbrt
[11:18] <peladillas> como puedo conectar con el chat de guadalinex
[11:18] <kitche> yokobr: yeah there is one that can the name escapes me at the moment
[11:18] <root__> i tried installing nfs and nis on my box eariler today... now my user administration app wont load the users...
[11:18] <LjL> peladillas: escribe /join #guadalinex
[11:18] <POVaddct> yokobr: tomsrtbt
[11:18] <root__> nevermind, ill use gnome
[11:19] <talisein> GNOME = <3
[11:19] <asmo674hurt> LjL, i can't find here
[11:19] <nitroxide> yo
[11:19] <SUSaiyan> gnome is icecream?
[11:19] <LjL> asmo674hurt: well, i use KDE, so perhaps i just remember wrong. anyway, from the terminal you can type "gconf-editor" to load it up... i know you asked to avoid the terminal
[11:19] <nitroxide> is somebody knows how to disable some module auto modprobe at startup ?
[11:20] <kitche> nitroxide: blacklist it
[11:20] <kitche> !blacklist
[11:20] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[11:20] <talisein> oh neat.
[11:20] <talisein> I just edit /etc/modules
[11:20] <nitroxide> kitche: i've already did it and it was not working
[11:20] <asmo674hurt> LjL, ok! thx
[11:20] <SUSaiyan> also, is it just me or does the services gui thing kill the rc system?
[11:20] <nitroxide> talisein: and add what to not load a module ?? :p
[11:20] <holler> does anybody know how to log or view logs of logins/logouts ??
[11:21] <talisein> nitroxide: just put a # before the word that has the module
[11:21] <bretticus> yokobr: damn small linux may boot from mulitple diskettes
[11:21] <nitroxide> kitche: lemme try with "my_blaclist"
[11:21] <talisein> if its listed there
[11:21] <LjL> holler: tail /var/log/auth.log
[11:21] <nitroxide> talisein: it's not listed, it's loaded from anothe rplace
[11:21] <talisein> ah
[11:21] <nitroxide> :)
[11:21] <talisein> which module?
[11:21] <holler> LjL: thanks, i will try that out
[11:21] <physicsnick> heya
[11:21] <nitroxide> usbcore
[11:22] <physicsnick> did anyone else's konsole fonts change after the last upgrade?
[11:22] <nitroxide> and all usb modules
[11:22] <talisein> holler: /var/log/auth.log
[11:22] <Jowi> !sound -> jowi
[11:22] <nitroxide> it takes too much power on my laptop
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound - - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <kitche> Jowi: what are you using gnome I take it?
[11:22] <skeff> can I downgrade my Openoffice.org version ?
[11:22] <physicsnick> oops, nevermind, wrong channel
[11:22] <LjL> holler: you could probably type "cat /var/log/auth.log | grep gdm" if you only want to see logins made using GDM (i.e. the graphical login screen)
[11:22] <nitroxide> reboot, brb
[11:23] <Jowi> kitche, fresh dapper install so yeah
[11:23] <pontusen> I have a problem with firefox. When i browse with one resolution(1280x1024) firefox won't show sites normal, the text is disorientated. When i higher the resolution everything works as normal. please help me!?
[11:23] <talisein> skeff: man aptitude and look at "forbid-version"
[11:23] <Jowi> kitche, normally not using gnome but did not want to poke around too much until I got everything working properly
[11:24] <kitche> !esd
[11:24] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[11:24] <kitche> !alsa
[11:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> pontusen: try fiddling with font settings in Firefox under Edit --> Preferences
[11:25] <nyk2005> I hav an AP which works in gentoo, but not in ubuntu. its a wirelss ap and dhcp does work on the laptop but not in the ubuntu pc. the key is set same on both.
[11:25] <kitche> there you go Jowi even though esd isn't really deprecated
[11:25] <nyk2005> what could it be?
[11:25] <Jowi> kitche, haven't used esd since I first tried it. first thing to go :)
[11:25] <LjL> kitche: yeah, that factoid doesn't seem very useful, also given that one normally doesn't even know he's "using" esd
[11:25] <kitche> nyk2005: is your essid set up right?
[11:26] <nyk2005> ubuntu sys uses netgear wg311T
[11:26] <nyk2005> yes.
[11:26] <kupesoft> how do i find out which tty is a modem (re: hylafax)
[11:26] <nyk2005> same on both, all th
[11:26] <nyk2005> e iwconfig
[11:26] <cyfr> Hello can anyone help me? I dont understand how to install the icon theme here: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38433725/ dragging it in to theme manager says 'invalid file format'
[11:27] <Jowi> kitche, hmmm "System > Preferences > Multimedia Systems Selector" does not exist here.
[11:27] <Newbi8> I've installed dc++ but it doesn't seem to be working..Hmm..What to do??
[11:28] <talisein> What's dc++?
[11:28] <kitche> Jowi: how about volume control then going to Change device
[11:28] <holler> LjL: actually the first one works just fine, thanks =)
[11:28] <Jowi> kitche, make no difference unfortunatley
[11:29] <LjL> holler: sure, fdisk is fine, it's just that cfdisk has a kind of friendlier interface. there is also GParted by the way, which is even friendly since it's a Gnome program...
[11:30] <nyk2005> help...
[11:30] <mighty_falcon> hmmm can someone help me with amarok please, even though i add tracks to it, for egsample just now when i go to collection>added today nothing shows up
[11:30] <Genix|linux> hey guys wondering if anyone has got shockwave working in edgy
[11:30] <mighty_falcon> it only shows tracks
[11:30] <mighty_falcon> when they are in the show all
[11:30] <mighty_falcon> or say a week ago
[11:31] <javiolo> !skype
[11:31] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:31] <mighty_falcon> anyone?
[11:31] <talisein> who uses KDE? pfft. only Linus.
[11:31] <Jowi> kitche, will have to find alternative music/video players it seems. too bad, I really like rhythmbox and totem-xine
[11:32] <nyk2005> i also dont ever use kde excep t
[11:32] <kitche> Jowi: I think rhythmbox has it's own sound settings
[11:32] <talisein> wait what's wrong with rhythmbox?
[11:32] <joeCoT> hey, anyone tried compiling IceWeasel on amd64 yet?
[11:32] <cyfr> Can nobody help me install a icon set?? :(
[11:32] <nyk2005> tonce for a year
[11:32] <Jowi> talisein, can't get sound out of it
[11:32] <talisein> but you get sound out of other things?
[11:32] <lupine_85> meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:32] <lupine_85> (uses KDE)
[11:32] <LjL> cyfr: have you renamed it, like the last comment on the site suggests?
[11:33] <kitche> Jowi: I would check rythmbox preferences just to make sure it doesn't have it's own setting
[11:33] <talisein> Jowi: you get sound out of otherthings? like startup sound?
[11:33] <whyso> what the heck is iceweasel
[11:33] <talisein> iceweasel is a rebranded firefox
[11:33] <LjL> cyfr: i mean, the last comment on the first page. try following it
[11:33] <Jowi> talisein, nope, only on specified apps that is not bound to gnome like xmms and mp3blaster
[11:33] <talisein> !iceweasel
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iceweasel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <whyso> ty] 
[11:34] <talisein> Jowi: Are you running Ubuntu or what?
[11:34] <Jowi> kitche, yeah, there used to be a way to specify a hardware device instead of default gnome but can't find it anymore in gconf-editor.
[11:34] <Jowi> talisein, yep
[11:34] <Jowi> talisein, dapper on a intel core duo mac mini no less :)
[11:35] <Seeker1> hi
[11:35] <Seeker1> When I run chkrootkit, it says: Checking `lkm'... You have 1 process hidden for readdir command You have     1 process hidden for ps command chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed.  What can I do?
[11:35] <cyfr> LjL i tried that, im either doing it wrong or that dosnt work. I copied the folder and it didnt appear in the theme manager icon bit
[11:35] <bluefox83> ok, my friend's X will not restart..i am trying to restart it remotely...any ideas?
[11:35] <SeanTater> Seeker1: hum-never heard of it
[11:35] <bluefox83> i have tried /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:35] <bluefox83> it wont start
[11:35] <POVaddct> bluefox83: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:35] <MonsieurBon> hello
[11:35] <LjL> cyfr: ok, can you type "ls ~/.theme" and paste the output on the pastebin (or here, *only if* it's just one line)
[11:36] <bluefox83> POVaddct, i did, there are no entries
[11:36] <MonsieurBon> does anybody know how i get my s-video out to work?
[11:36] <Seeker1> SeanTater: thats because you are not experienced in linux
[11:36] <POVaddct> bluefox83: the file is empty?
[11:36] <SeanTater> Seeker1: you might try installing klamav or clamav or something similar to it to try to remove it, assuming it exists
[11:36] <talisein> Jowi: goto System -> Preferences -> Sound and what do you see?
[11:36] <Seeker1> SeanTater: u new to linux obviously
[11:36] <whyso> why on earth would ubuntu make my swap file 7.5GB when i have 4GB ram?
[11:37] <SeanTater> Seeker1: not really, I've used it about 3 years
[11:37] <bluefox83> POVaddct, yes
[11:37] <cyfr> LjL ls theme gives nothing, its ment to be themes right? "buuf"
[11:37] <talisein> whyso: swap files should be a little more than the amount of ram you have
[11:37] <LjL> whyso: the default is probably to make the swap slightly twice as big as the physical RAM. that's what often recommended
[11:37] <POVaddct> bluefox83: then the X server didn't even try to start
[11:37] <bluefox83> POVaddct, yes it did..i think..
[11:37] <Jowi> talisein, a dumbed down version of what used to be useful. Enable ESD (not ticked), Play sys sounds (not ticked), Default sound card: HDA Intel (my ALSA soundcard)
[11:37] <talisein> whyso: the way suspend works is everything in ram is written to disk. So you need at least as much swap space as you have ram
[11:37] <LjL> cyfr: i'm not sure. did you type it exactly as i said? "ls ~/.theme", with the squiggle and the dot
[11:38] <POVaddct> bluefox83: maybe the filesystem is full
[11:38] <bluefox83> * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ ok ] 
[11:38] <bluefox83>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [fail] 
[11:38] <Sprattelkula> anyone else experience resolution problems with the nvidia beta driver? xorg.conf says 1440x900 for my screen.. in gnome i cant set it any higher then 1024x768
[11:38] <talisein> Jowi: yeah it looks different than I remember. My esd box is ticked, so try that.
[11:38] <nyk2005> dejavu!!
[11:38] <surreal> obconf is calling for *libobrender* i can't seem to find it, anyone got some tips?
[11:38] <kitche> whyso: you can remove that swap since you really don't need it
[11:38] <bluefox83> POVaddct, no, it's a new installation on a blank hard drive
[11:38] <cyfr> Ljl theres no such directory as theme, but there is themes
[11:38] <cyfr> .theme and .themes i mean
[11:38] <whyso> ah ok thanks
[11:38] <LjL> Sprattelkula: in xorg.conf, have you set your monitor rates to such that will enable such a high resolution? (you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to be guided through that)
[11:38] <talisein> Sprattelkula: are you using a television as your display device?
[11:38] <cryptonic> does anyone know if ubuntu has problems resizing ntfs partitions?
[11:38] <Jowi> talisein, only to make you happy ;)
[11:39] <kitche> cryptonic: any linux does
[11:39] <LjL> cyfr: alright, list .themes then. i'll let you know that i do *not* use gnome, and i just jumped in because i saw nobody else answering.
[11:39] <talisein> Jowi: lol. then in terminal ps -A|grep esd and see if its running
[11:39] <Sprattelkula> talisein: using a 19" widescreen tft.
[11:39] <POVaddct> bluefox83: try starting Xorg manually and see if it runs. you can terminate with ctrl-c or your friend with ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:39] <whyso> resiezed my ntf partion fine
[11:39] <cyfr> LjL all thats in the folder is "buuf"
[11:40] <bluefox83> POVaddct, my friend can't start X
[11:40] <cryptonic> might do it under windows and then, finally install ubuntu
[11:40] <SeanTater> cryptonic: I imagine it can be problematic, it just got write capability
[11:40] <runa> IIRC when I installed ubuntu I did it in a LVM. now I would like to add another disk. how can I know if Im using LVM or not?
[11:40] <Jowi> talisein, if I tick it esd is running but not producing sound (that is normal, I never been able to get esd to play nice with any of my hardware). so now it's ticked off again :P
[11:40] <ScreaminIk1> anyone know where lynx keeps its cache? say... when it's dling afile...
[11:40] <POVaddct> bluefox83: no, i mean if you start it and it runs, he can terminate it with ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:40] <SeanTater> cryptonic: but it's possible, there are utilities for it, AFAIK
[11:41] <fkdsm> hellow all, have installed Ubuntu LTS and this is good to work with
[11:41] <physicsnick> ScreaminIk1: you mean while it's running? i don't think lynx saves a cache after you close it...
[11:41] <SeanTater> fkdsm: good
[11:41] <bluefox83> POVaddct, yeah..that's great..but we can't get it started..
[11:41] <ScreaminIk1> yea. while it's running
[11:41] <fkdsm> thx SeanTater
[11:41] <fkdsm> :)
[11:41] <POVaddct> bluefox83: try sudo Xorg :0 vt07
[11:41] <SeanTater> fkdsm: I'm glad you think so
[11:41] <talisein> Jowi: do you have a /dev/dsp?
[11:41] <physicsnick> ScreaminIk1: hmm, don't know, sorry
[11:41] <POVaddct> bluefox83: and watch the error message
[11:41] <SeanTater> fkdsm: The occasional complement is nice to hear among many complaints
[11:42] <fkdsm> well I have been thinking abt this a loong time.. but finally I decided to go for it
[11:42] <nyk2005> help...
[11:42] <fkdsm> :))yw SeanTater
[11:42] <ScreaminIk1> darn. cuz... i have this file dling across campus... but my account doesn't have the allocated disk space to actually save it...
[11:42] <Jowi> talisein, yeah, /dev/dsp exist. I appreciate your help but I will continue to hunt for a solution tomorrow, need some sleep. At least I know that the kernel modules are ok and that some apps get sound.
[11:42] <SeanTater> fkdsm: have you considered other linux distributions too?
[11:42] <ScreaminIk1> so i was going to open another ssh to dl the file out of the cache
[11:42] <ScreaminIk1> :)
[11:42] <talisein> Jowi: np, goodnight
[11:43] <Jowi> night all. thanks goes out to everyone involved! peace
[11:43] <SeanTater> fkdsm: I tried linspire, then ubuntu, and settled (temporarily) on debian, so sometimes you'll like 2 or 3
[11:43] <physicsnick> ScreaminIk1: you're using lynx to download a large file?
[11:43] <fkdsm> well I have a Windows machine with VM-ware and on that I have PCBSD and Fedora installed and also OpenSuse 10.. I like them all..coz they look so nice and I need some time to get used to them
[11:44] <physicsnick> ScreaminIk1: why? why not use a graphical browser?
[11:44] <SeanTater> fkdsm: have you tried kde too?
[11:44] <SeanTater> fkdsm: (Kde is a desktop environment)
[11:44] <physicsnick> SeanTater: do you use kde?
[11:44] <physicsnick> because i use kubuntu
[11:44] <SeanTater> physicsnick: yes
[11:44] <Newbi8> What filesharing-program are people using on Ubuntu?I can't get none to work.....
[11:44] <physicsnick> and i love it
[11:44] <SeanTater> physicsnick: so do I
[11:44] <POVaddct> SeanTater: i think opensuse 10 comes with kde
[11:44] <physicsnick> oh
[11:44] <ScreaminIk1> cuz the campus connection is choked. but i have a cli to an unchocked terminal
[11:44] <fkdsm> yep, that is standard install in OpenSuse.. rite now I'm running on Gnome
[11:44] <physicsnick> i thought you said you used debian
[11:44] <SeanTater> Newbi8: generally we use bittorrent
[11:44] <LjL> cyfr, sorry, i don't think i can help you, not having gnome installed and all. perhaps repeat your question in 10 minutes or so, you may have more luck :(
[11:44] <talisein> ScreaminIk1: look in the directory you're downloading too, then look at  "ls -a ~/"
[11:45] <xerophyte_> does anybody know why does the ssh hangs after it ask password, of the server does this .. but i checked the server it does not seem to be hacked. .. anybody know why
[11:45] <SeanTater> Newbi8: but it;s just for downloading ISO's ans stuff that's really upposed to be free
[11:45] <SeanTater> fkdsm: okay
[11:45] <physicsnick> i just got my kubuntu lts cds in the mail today
[11:45] <physicsnick> they're ever so sexy
[11:45] <fkdsm> SeanTater,  :)
[11:45] <SeanTater> fkdsm: whichever you prefer, go for!
[11:45] <_atomic> sup
[11:45] <cyfr> LjL im not sure what that package was... but I found the same "buuf" icon set on gnome-look and it installed fine, thanks for the help
[11:45] <Wazm> hello
[11:45] <Seeker1> When I run chkrootkit, it says: Checking `lkm'... You have 1 process hidden for readdir command You have     1 process hidden for ps command chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed.  What can I do?
[11:45] <SeanTater> _atomic: hello
[11:45] <talisein> ScreaminIk1: look in ~/.links/ or ~/.links2/
[11:45] <Wazm> you tell me ;)
[11:45] <physicsnick> i think i'm gonna order a stack of 10 and leave them in the physics society room for people to take
[11:45] <SeanTater> Wazm: hello
[11:45] <Seeker1> anyone have any solutions?
[11:45] <Newbi8> Seantater:How do I install Sun Java and that Azerus stuff then?I'm going nuts.......
[11:45] <_atomic> unsure
[11:46] <physicsnick> that's how i got into linux in the first place, so i figure i should return the favor
[11:46] <surreal> is there a cmd line program that will search the repos?
[11:46] <runa> Seeker1: are you running qmail?
[11:46] <physicsnick> Newbi8: have you activated the universe and multiverse repositories?
[11:46] <SeanTater> !java > Newbi8
[11:46] <talisein> surreal: apt-cache search package
[11:46] <runa> Seeker1: I get that message all the time with qmail. Usually is a false alarm
[11:46] <SeanTater> Newbi8: look at what ubotu said
[11:46] <surreal> oo
[11:46] <surreal> thanks
[11:46] <fkdsm> SeanTater,  well.. i would like to update to the newly released Gnome, any tips in howto, or is this included in the Synaptics
[11:46] <kitche> !qmail
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <Seeker1> runa: ok
[11:47] <SeanTater> fkdsm: it should be in edgy
[11:47] <Seeker1> runa: not runnuing qmail
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> Newbi8: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:47] <SeanTater> fkdsm: If you wait, edgy will be released in a few days
[11:47] <talisein> Seeker1: google for LKM trojan recovery?
[11:47] <physicsnick> Newbi8: after you do that, follow the installing azureus instructions on the ubuntuguide
[11:47] <fkdsm> yes that is true SeanTater  ... and then an update from LTS to Edgy that is what I will have to do then
[11:47] <Seeker1> talisein: its ok! seems like a glitch
[11:47] <physicsnick> Newbi8: don't install azureus from the repos, because it uses a free version of java in which a bunch of stuff is broken
[11:48] <SeanTater> fkdsm: But it's not as stable as dapper (and probably will never be, It's not intended to be)
[11:48] <physicsnick> unless it bothers you to use sun java
[11:48] <ladydoor> surreal: apt-cache search
[11:48] <talisein> physicsnick: you can set up ubuntu to use sun-java by default.
[11:48] <kitche> Seeker1: I would try the other two tools just to make sure it's not a glitche
[11:48] <SeanTater> fkdsm: sure
[11:48] <LjL> Seeker1: the fact that i *said* i *believed* it was a glitch *on my system* doesn't mean it is a glitch. you should probably investigate.
[11:48] <ladydoor> surreal: or you can get into aptitude's ui and press / to search and n to search again
[11:48] <talisein> physicsnick: its an option in update-alternatives
[11:48] <SeanTater> fkdsm: see ya, got to go
[11:48] <Seeker1> kitche: what tools?
[11:48] <SeanTater> fkdsm: :)
[11:48] <fkdsm> cu later SeanTater
[11:48] <LjL> kitche: rkhunter
[11:48] <kitche> Seeker1: like rkhunter
[11:48] <Seeker1> LjL: investigate how?
[11:48] <LjL> kitche: sorry, that was obviously addressed to Seeker1
[11:48] <Seeker1> kitche: rkhunter doesnt report anything
[11:49] <LjL> Seeker1: google ;)
[11:49] <physicsnick> talisein: doesn't ubuntu use sun-java by default if you just install sun java from the repos?
[11:49] <Seeker1> LjL: google says its a glitch
[11:49] <Seeker1> and a short term living process
[11:49] <surreal> hmm
[11:49] <kitche> LjL: that's ok :)
[11:49] <LjL> Seeker1: ah, so you've checked yourself too. ok then
[11:49] <talisein> physicsnick: not sure. I suspect not actually
[11:49] <physicsnick> talisein: the problem with azureus from the repos is that it's precompiled with the free java
[11:49] <runa> anyone knows how can I know if Im using LVM or not?
[11:49] <kitche> Seeker1: probably how ubuntu modified ps and such most likely
[11:49] <talisein> really?
[11:49] <physicsnick> talisein: as far as i know, it won't use sun java no matter what you do
[11:50] <physicsnick> talisein: i think so. that's why on ubuntuguide, it instructs you to wget the actual azureus jar files and set it up from there
[11:50] <adammk> how can i change settings for every user? i'm talking about settings that are usually up to the individual user.
[11:50] <talisein> i use rtorrent anyways
[11:50] <zardinuk> runa: cat /etc/fstab
[11:50] <talisein> waaaaaaaaaay more efficient
[11:50] <physicsnick> talisein: that way it uses whatever java your computer is set up with. in this case sun java
[11:50] <surreal> obconf needs libobrender.so.1 i have .0.4.0 do i just need to enable a need repo or do i need to compile that?
[11:50] <physicsnick> yeah, i intend to switch over to ktorrent soon
[11:51] <physicsnick> but i have a torrent in progress using azureus that i've had for over four months now
[11:51] <talisein> lol
[11:51] <talisein> check out rtorrent
[11:51] <physicsnick> i started it on windows, then formatted and installed ubuntu, then formatted and installed kubuntu edgy
[11:51] <VooDoo> evening
[11:52] <physicsnick> once this thing FINALLY finishes, then i can switch over to something else
[11:52] <physicsnick> yeah i'll check it out
[11:52] <runa> zardinuk: I've hda1 mounted as /. This means Im not using it, right?
[11:52] <bluefox83> ok..is there an easy way to do this?
[11:53] <talisein> bluefox83: probably/.
[11:53] <zardinuk> runa: right, you'd see LABEL=/ if you were using LVM
[11:53] <MonsieurBon> does nobody know how i get my s-video out to work? I got an ATI Card
[11:54] <POVaddct> bluefox83: to do what? i think i missed a message
[11:54] <runa> zardinuk: fuck. and I cannot create a LVM without recreating the FS, right?
[11:54] <talisein> MonsieurBon: which driver are you using? flgrx or the free ones?
[11:54] <kupesoft> how do i find out which tty is a modem (re: hylafax)?
[11:54] <bluefox83> POVaddct, i can't seem to get the xorg.conf right
[11:54] <ompaul> !langauge
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about langauge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <ompaul> !language
[11:54] <physicsnick> hehe
[11:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:54] <ompaul> runa, ^^
[11:54] <joeCoT> bah. i'm getting fPIC errors compiling iceweasel >_<
[11:54] <MonsieurBon> talisein: fglrx
[11:54] <Chamuco> hi i have been trying this for a while I have an image file from an ext3 partition and I want to copy a backup superblock i was trying w e2fsck but it gives me an error  any pointers ?
[11:55] <POVaddct> bluefox83: can you paste it to pastebin? and the Xorg error message too
[11:55] <physicsnick> use pastebin.ca, not pastebin.com
[11:55] <physicsnick> it's way faster
[11:55] <auslandr> Silly question - What the heck is the name of the program that lets you track logfiles on the desktop of your x.org session?  I can't remember the name of it and synaptic isn't giving me any love.
[11:55] <ompaul> use pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:55] <Newbi8> physicsnick:thank you.:)
[11:55] <bluefox83> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[11:56] <bluefox83> Fatal server error:
[11:56] <talisein> MonsieurBon: check out the documents in /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:56] <bluefox83> could not open default font 'fixed'
[11:56] <POVaddct> bluefox83: to pastebin, not here
[11:56] <Jowi> back. just wanted to give an update to those who helped me (or tried to) I found the problem!
[11:56] <bluefox83> POVaddct, sorry
[11:56] <talisein> Jowi: ?
[11:56] <POVaddct> bluefox83: the fonts are missing
[11:56] <bluefox83> POVaddct, so how do i install them?
[11:56] <m3rlinux> ho bisogno di aiuto...
[11:56] <talisein> auslandr: its probably one of the xterms with transparency turned on.
[11:56] <POVaddct> bluefox83: wait..
[11:57] <m3rlinux> si parla solo l'inglese qui?
[11:57] <talisein> auslandr: like eterm
[11:57] <LjL> !it
[11:57] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:57] <m3rlinux> grazie ubotu
[11:57] <m3rlinux> :)
[11:57] <Jowi> talisein, kitche, crimsun: /etc/asound.conf was not correct. pointed to use 'pcm "hw:0,1"' instead of the real deal "hw:0,0". now all apps get sound.
[11:57] <aixing> :D
[11:57] <POVaddct> bluefox83: sudo apt-get install xfonts-base
[11:57] <talisein> cool
[11:57] <bluefox83> POVaddct, it said it was already installed
[11:57] <Ninja562> what media player should I use for web videos?
[11:58] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:58] <POVaddct> bluefox83: then the xorg.conf must be f***ed up
[11:58] <auslandr> talisein: laugh.. That's probably it.. I'll just run eterm with multitail and be done with it.
[11:58] <MonsieurBon> talisein: there's just a copyright and a changelog in there
[11:58] <talisein> Ninja562: matters which web videos you're talking about.
[11:58] <bluefox83> POVaddct, possible
[11:58] <POVaddct> bluefox83: can you put it on pastebin?
[11:58] <Jowi> talisein, that was a looooong troubleshooting for such a small thing that should have been detected during install time.
[11:58] <bluefox83> POVaddct, give me a quick link please
[11:58] <steamR> Ninja562: Some prefer totem-gstreamer, others mplayer
[11:58] <Chamuco> Or what application could I use to restore the main superblock of a partition?
[11:58] <POVaddct> !paste
[11:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:59] <POVaddct> bluefox83: read what ubotu said
[11:59] <talisein> MonsieurBon: hrm, ls /usr/share/doc/*fglrx*, there should be a nice README that covers everything in one of them
[11:59] <Jowi> anyway, I'm happy. will write a howto someday. see you guys around.
[11:59] <steamR> Ninja562: or totem-xine
[11:59] <Ninja562> steamR: How do I tell the difference?
[11:59] <talisein> Jowi: file a bug if you would. Its probably because mac-minis aren't super-common
[11:59] <talisein> doh.
[11:59] <Ninja562> Is there one that does em all?
[11:59] <steamR> just install the firefox-plugin from plf, and it will work
[12:00] <talisein> Ninja562: mplayer does most, and the rest are probably Flash
[12:00] <MonsieurBon> talisein: there is nothing....
[12:00] <steamR> Ninja562: I prefer totem-xine with the firefox plugin. Works best for me