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magiccomo puedo arreglar mis poblemas de video en la sesion xgl?12:11
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DaSkreech!es12:11
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:11
intelikeyotaku-san can you pastebin the error   and  your sources.list12:11
magicsorry12:11
DaSkreechmagic: Also try #ubuntu-xgl12:11
otaku-sanDaSkreech: Whats up?12:11
DaSkreechmagic: They can be helpful12:11
DaSkreechotaku-san: Rain Clouds!12:11
otaku-sanintelikey: sure thing...hold on12:11
otaku-sanDaSkreech: you to?  It's poring here12:12
intelikeyit sprunkel here all night  :)12:12
max__intel 82845G/GL chipset intergrated graphics devicce12:12
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intelikeysprunkel is the past tense of sprinle isn't it ?12:13
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intelikeysprinkle that is12:13
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inteliwasphow do i make the system tray icons stack on top of them selves?12:14
max__intelikey: intel 82845G/GL chipset intergrated graphics devicce12:14
DaSkreechinteliwasp: May need to change your System tray settings12:15
intelikeymax__ ok in this irssi session type this without the quotes.  "/dcc send intelikey /etc/X11/xorg.conf "12:15
DaSkreechinteliwasp: Right click o nthe K menu and choose configure panel12:15
DaSkreechAnd set your size down to 48 pixels12:15
intelikeylet me look at your config file...12:16
max__thank you very much for your help12:16
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intelikeymax__ ?12:16
max__yes?12:17
siloxTecom BT3030 - Anyone know if this bluetooth USB adapter is supported in Linux??12:17
siloxsorry i ment BT303312:17
intelikeythe xorg.conf file ?12:17
max__i sent it12:17
intelikeyhmmm you behind a firewall ?12:17
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max__no12:17
intelikeyrouter ?12:18
max__no12:18
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max__i typed it in clicked enter and nothing happened12:18
max__that, right? "/dcc send intelikey /etc/X11/xorg.conf"12:18
intelikeywithout the quotes  yes12:18
max__hang on intelikey12:19
nataliais anyone here using a print server with kubuntu?12:19
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siloxnatalia yupp12:19
nataliaWhat did you have to do to get it to work?  I know the IP of the print server and the port the printer is on... but cant get it to print12:20
siloxor i use ubuntu ^^12:20
intelikeyyou can check alt+1 alt+2 alt+3 for other windows (error messages) in irssi.   irssi uses a screen-like display by default.12:20
intelikey@ max__12:20
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nataliaI am using lpd12:20
siloxwhat services does your printserver support?12:20
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siloxok12:20
nataliaso I have lpd://IP_ADDRESS/312:21
otaku-sanintelikey: heres the pastebin http://pastebin.ca/20556412:21
intelikeylooking12:21
nataliabut when I print a test page nothing come out of the printer12:21
otaku-santhanks12:21
max__i tried again and no luck12:21
siloxnatalia wait one sec12:21
nataliaok :)12:21
siloxis it a printserver in the printer or an external?12:22
nataliaan external12:22
siloxok have u tried Samba and Cups?12:23
nataliacurrently my windows computers can print to it with out issue - just need to know how to get my linux one working12:23
nataliaI have cups yes12:23
max__intelikey: i tried to send, you not get it?12:23
siloxin wIndows can u search the printserver in the "Computer Search" tool?12:23
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nataliayes in windows I can it works well12:23
ypsilagood morning12:24
nataliaalso I can ping the print server from my linux machine too12:24
intelikeymax__ are you are doing that right here as iff you were talking to me aren't you ?   not in a console bash shell ?12:24
siloxokey then u must take Samba12:24
max__yes12:24
nataliaI have to install samba?12:24
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intelikeyno i'm not getting any offer.12:24
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siloxyes if u cant change to it in printer settings but i am sure that your printserver supports some more then SMB..12:25
max__dcc send intelikey /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:25
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siloxwhat the name on your print server?12:25
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nataliathis is it here: http://www.humra.com/product_info.php?products_id=540&osCsid=b0777ef9de111ae0ff195d64df70720112:25
siloxok12:25
nataliai sais it support UNIX LPR/LPD printing.12:26
nataliait12:26
siloxyes..12:26
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siloxbut u have to configure it to run on that i think12:27
siloxdo u know the IP to it?12:27
nataliaSo I installed cups - then tried to add the printer using the lpr:// method12:27
nataliayes12:27
max__intelikey: is there no other way to send?12:27
siloxtry to go to it in firefox..12:27
intelikeyotaku-san that's all in your sources.list????  man.   there are repetes in there btw.     291 lines of sources......12:27
nataliaim in there now12:27
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siloxok12:27
siloxsee any setup thins? ^^12:27
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nataliasorry - I didnt follow that last question12:28
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intelikeymax__ have a look in alt+1  that's the number one above the letters keys12:28
silox*things :P sorry my sleepy bad english ;)12:28
nataliasetup things in firefox?12:28
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nataliano I dont see any12:28
max__private messages frmo unregistered users are disabled12:29
nataliaunless you mean if I go to the webadmin of the print server?12:29
siloxnatalia exactly :)12:29
nataliayes im in there already12:29
tom__whassup little dog12:29
intelikeyand that's probably blocking dcc actions12:29
siloxnatalia is Unix support enabled?12:29
max__how do i fix that?12:29
intelikeymax__ looks like you have to be regestered to send files on this server12:29
nataliathere is no such option that I can see12:29
otaku-sanintelikey: ya.....it's f'sking huge....I need to clean it...but don't know what to nuke...scared I might bork something12:30
max__how can i register in irssi12:30
DaSkreech!register12:30
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:30
siloxnatalia k :/ hmm12:30
max__!register12:30
intelikey/msg nickserv help12:30
intelikey/msg nickserv help register12:30
nataliaI have SNMP option12:30
otaku-sanbot abuse! hehehe12:30
nataliasilox - how did you get yours to work?12:31
intelikeyotaku-san my sources.list is three lines i think.12:31
siloxok..12:31
otaku-sanintelikey: ......  o.0  what is in it....do you compile everything?12:31
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intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse12:31
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse12:31
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse12:31
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siloxi enabled unix support (LPD) and copied the printer name from the webmin and configured it..12:32
ypsilagood morning12:32
nataliaperhaps I have not enabled LPD?12:32
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Pinkle_Rosehi12:32
max__whats the command to register?12:33
siloxbut i think its much easier to run with SMB,,12:33
otaku-sanintelikey: I ran in too many problems when I had only the original repos...so I got some more with stuff I needed....kinda grew after that12:33
siloxnatalia maybe..12:33
Pinkle_Rosehow to turn on visualisations in amarok?12:33
intelikey/msg nickserv register <passwd>12:33
Pinkle_Rosei have problem with libvisual12:33
nataliathis unit does not have smb support though12:33
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otaku-sanypsila: Good morning to you.  Do you have a question? Also, no need to say hello..just post your question12:34
intelikeyotaku-san well anyway  your list needs a cleaning even if you keep all those repos there are some duplicates in there.12:34
siloxnatalia: yeah i sah that now ^^12:34
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nataliaalso I have lpr installed from using apt-get install lpr12:34
otaku-sanintelikey: ya....I just noticed that.....hehehehe...what are the ones you saw?12:34
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max__intelikey: <nickerver: No such nick/channel>12:35
ypsilaotaku-san: I only tried to be polite, as european educated person12:35
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intelikeyotaku-san might i sujest "grep -ve'#' /etc/apt/sources.list | sort -u > clean.list "    and have a look in ~/clean.list12:35
intelikeymax__ typo   nickserv12:36
siloxnatalia: wait i will ask google ;)12:36
max__oops12:36
nataliasilox - ok thanks12:36
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ypsilamy question: ff - firefox produces black-screen when java12:36
otaku-sanypsila: Always good!  I completely understand...but if a lot of people are posting...introductions kinda just make clutter...it's a bit informal here.  But, always nice to hear a hello or good morning!12:37
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max1_ok, now im registered, ill send now intelikey12:37
ypsilaotaku-san: thx, I'm usually in kubuntu-de and it is not my question :-)12:37
ypsilajust asking for someone who does not trust his english12:38
max1_did you get it intelikey?12:38
otaku-sanintelikey: I'll try that12:38
naegling23does anyone know the manual way to change screen resolution, its something like sudo nvidia something12:38
intelikeymax1_ looking12:38
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kkathmanis there someway to keep that "popup blocked" message from constantly coming up in Konqueror ???12:39
kkathmanthats irritating12:39
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ypsilaholla12:39
ishimaru_kaitoholla senor12:40
axel!ubuntu12:40
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome12:40
ypsilaishimaru_kaito: just in case you meant me, I'm a lady, sorry12:41
otaku-sanit's hola...heheheh not holla! ;)12:41
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ypsilaotaku-san: it was just meant to express my surprise12:41
siloxnatalia: try to whrite this in IPP ipp://ipnumer:631/lp112:42
otaku-sanAhhh!  Are you German?12:42
ypsilaotaku-san: yes12:42
intelikeymax1_ do a quick    "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810 "   just to make sure the driver is installed.12:42
max1_ok, brb12:42
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otaku-sanintelikey: ok I put in the command and looked where my source list is...but no clean.list....where did it go?12:43
intelikeyotaku-san the "clean.list" is in your home dir12:43
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otaku-sanahhhhhh12:43
nataliasilox - its going very slow since I changed the printing system to LPR12:43
ypsilaotaku-san: I would like to know where you do come from12:44
natalianeed to change it back to cups i guess12:44
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siloxnatalia yes CUPS need to be enabled12:44
intelikeymax1_ you back ?12:44
ypsilahow do i get java5 with adept?12:44
otaku-sanypsila: I am from the US....hehehe an uneducated american ;)12:44
max1_intelikey: it is the latest12:45
nataliasilox - having a hard time changing it back it freezes up12:45
ypsilaotaku-san: nice, but why that  -san nick?12:45
nataliathere we go12:45
ypsilaotaku-san: not proud to be an us? *kidding*12:46
siloxnatalia: hehe arent u so happy when things work as u want ^^12:46
max1_intelikey: it is the latest12:46
ishimaru_kaitoypsila: apesadumbrado, mi error. hola12:46
intelikeymax1_ ok. good.   now open the config in an editior and change one line.    "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf "   and scroll down to the line that says  "        DefaultDepth    24 "   change the number to 16   save and exit.12:46
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nataliasilox - oh yea hahaha12:46
ishimaru_kaitops - not really spanish12:46
max1_ok, brb12:47
otaku-sanypsila: san basically means Mr. and otaku is someone really obsessed with something (like Linux) so it means Mr.Obsessed12:47
nataliasilox - Ok i tried the way you said no joy same thing happens12:47
ypsilaishimaru_kaito:  i do not speak portugais12:47
siloxnatalia: ok try port 80 instead12:47
Jucatootaku = Japanese term for "geek" :P12:47
siloxand http instead of IPP://12:47
ishimaru_kaitootaku - short for fanboy12:47
ypsila:-D12:47
otaku-sanypsila: No, I love my country.  And Japan as you can tell12:47
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otaku-sanactually it's a bit of an insulting term Jucato12:48
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nataliasilox - same thing12:48
Jucatootaku-san: which only makes me wonder even more :)12:48
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otaku-sanishimaru_kaito: are you Japanese?12:48
ishimaru_kaitoit's to do with being obsessed....   from wikipedia : In modern Japanese slang, an otaku refers to an overtly obsessive fan of any one particular theme, topic, or hobby.12:48
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ypsilalatex12:49
otaku-sanJucato: hehehehe ya...but I thought...hmmm I love Linux so lets be obsessive about it!12:49
ypsilaleather12:49
max1_intelikey: i changed it, did <startx> and got the same error12:49
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ypsilajava5 with adept12:49
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otaku-sanishimaru_kaito: ya thats why I called my self that...I'm obsessed with Linux!  So Mr.Obsessed Linux Guy12:50
nataliasilox - I changed it back to lpd: and now the state sais Queued instead of Error12:50
intelikeymax1_ ok i need the output of lshw.   do this  "lshw > out.lshw "    and come back here and type in "/dcc send intelikey out.lshw"12:50
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max1_ok, brb12:50
ypsilaichnennemichgleichmamasan12:50
siloxnatalia: find something on google:  "In cups (web interface...) choose device Internet Printing protocol (http) and enter the URI as follows http://IP adress of the PN1200/lp1     It is now shown in CUPS as http://xx.xx.xxx:80/lp1....     After that CUPS requests to install the appropriate driver for your printer and it should work..."12:51
siloxNatalia: look like some progress.. =)12:51
otaku-sanintelikey: so in the clean list....is that what I need?  or is that the things that I need to delete?12:51
max1_lshw > out.lshw/dcc send intelikey out.lshw12:52
max1_oops12:52
intelikeyotaku-san that's a single copy of every thing you already have.  it removed the dups12:52
siloxnatalia can u print a testpage?12:52
nataliasilox - where is device internet printint protocol?12:52
nataliasilox - no thats what I am trying to do12:52
intelikeyotaku-san dups comments and blank lines12:52
ypsilaok, thx for the help12:53
siloxnatalia yeah i know ^^ but i thought maybe it worked now ;)12:53
intelikeymax1_ from the /   onward12:53
otaku-sanintelikey: ok!  Thanks man.12:53
siloxnatalia I think u can use the Gnome Print Tool also12:53
nataliasilox - I dont see that option in cups that you mentioned12:53
max1_intelikey: what?12:53
siloxnatalia wait let me see her12:54
siloxe12:54
intelikeymax1_ the /dcc command12:54
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max1_what abou tit?12:54
max1_about it*12:54
intelikeysend me the file ?12:54
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max1_that work?12:56
intelikeyno12:56
max1_what is the exact command?12:56
intelikey/dcc send intelikey out.lshw12:56
otaku-sanok I'm out of here!12:56
otaku-sanpeace12:56
Jucatosayonara otaku-san :P12:56
intelikeyotaku-san luck with it12:56
ypsilalove12:56
siloxnatalia didnt find it here either lol must be some really old stuff i read ^^12:56
nataliasilox - I need to head out for a bit dinner is ready - if you are here when I get back thats great - if not thanks for your help12:57
nataliamuch appreciated :)12:57
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siloxnatalia i can try to search for some answer at the time ;)12:57
snook353does anyone have any experience with ndiswrapper and kubuntu?12:57
silox*answers12:57
intelikeyDaSkreech you around ?12:57
nataliathanks :)12:57
ypsilagod night12:57
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DaSkreechintelikey: Shhhh12:58
max1_that work?12:58
intelikeyDaSkreech is there any know issue with the i810 ?12:58
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intelikeyvidio12:58
DaSkreechNot as far as Iknow it should have Open source drivers and everything12:58
max1_it says "out.lshw no such directory"12:58
DaSkreechAnd it worked before correct?12:58
max1_yes12:58
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intelikeymax1_ then you need to do the command again that makes the file.....   "lshw > ~/out.lshw 2>&1 "12:59
max1_ok, brb12:59
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intelikey!paste01:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:00
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max1_buffer IO error01:02
intelikeyDaSkreech http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27045/plain/ max1_'s xorg.conf01:02
intelikeymax1_ that's fine.  now send it.01:03
max1_oh ok01:03
tjakohi all01:03
max1_it still says no such file01:03
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tjakohappy birth day to you01:03
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Jucato?01:04
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Ranma2264I'm having problem to mount devices via desktop icons the only way to mount it is doing right click, anyone with the same issue?01:04
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DaSkreechintelikey: Seems standard01:05
intelikeyDaSkreech yeah.01:05
DaSkreechWhatsthe errors?01:05
tjakoi have some similar problem: i mounted my ntfs disks in media, but i need a desktop shortcut01:05
intelikeythat's what's trubbling me.01:05
intelikeyno screens found01:05
max1_could changing anyrginf in my sources.list make this happen?01:05
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tjakoalias tjako t-bone01:06
intelikeynormally a no screens will be the vid card or the mon section   both look ok.01:06
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intelikeymax1_ can you confirm that the file is not in your home dir.   go to that console and type "ls "01:07
tjakoanybody know how to create desktop shortcuts of maps in /media/*.*01:07
intelikeytjako right click the desktop ?01:08
tjakodoesnt work01:08
tjakowhich to choose : create folder/launcher/document01:09
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Ranma2264I'm trying to update hal by source, but I have a problem where can I find policy kit?01:09
intelikeylauncher01:09
tjakoand then what should i fill in?01:09
intelikeyand input the full /path/name you want tjako01:09
tjakoin command?01:10
intelikeyyep01:10
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max1_its not there01:10
intelikeytjako konq should use the program associated with the type.01:11
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tjakohey great inelikey! it works!! thankx so much, i have been struggling with this for 3 days already!01:11
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intelikeymax1_ hmmmm   ok lets see what DaSkreech comes up with.01:11
max1_the file isnt that long01:11
max1_i can coppy it01:11
intelikeyDaSkreech what's the word on max1_ xorg problem ?01:12
tjakono i just needed a fast way to access my ntfsdrives, which are correctly mounted and are readable and writable01:12
soulriderhi everyone01:12
max1_thank both of you for the help01:12
intelikeythe file max1_ ?   which file ?01:12
max1_huh01:13
vgecan somebody tell me, how can i disable "mouse rolling over taskbar tabs changing the window problem"?01:13
vgetaskbar==panel01:14
intelikeymax1_ what monitor do you have ?01:15
max1_Gateway LE50001:16
DaSkreechDid you buy the computer?01:16
max1_its never given me probelms untill i tried to switch to Edgy Eft01:16
tjakoanybody know why internet connections through http in ubuntu go sooo slow?01:17
intelikeymax1_ i betting there is a bug in the version of xorg.  or possably the i810 driver for that version.01:17
max1_can can i fix it?01:18
tjakoi have fast adsl 6 mbit, but looking up the url takes ages01:18
DaSkreechmax1_: When did you upgrade?01:18
max1_lastnight01:18
DaSkreechDid you try a Dist-upgrade today?01:18
max1_no01:18
DaSkreechtry that ;-)01:19
max1_whats the command?01:19
Blackentjako: Sounds like a DNS problem.01:19
DaSkreechSudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:19
intelikeymax1_ you can try one more time the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "   and use  "vesa" driver   it should work but be somewhat limited on the rez.01:19
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intelikeyoh sorry i was typing not reading.....01:20
max1_ok, brb01:20
intelikeyDaSkreech max1_ i'm out for a bit.01:20
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DaSkreechOK01:20
DaSkreechMe and you max1_01:20
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tjakoi doubt it is DNS because i have solid ip and downloading files goes very fast, it only takes ages when i type in a url before the page loads01:20
Zaireis there an alternate way of purging all files from a package aside from apt-get remove package --purge cause that didn't work01:20
soulrideryes01:21
soulridersudo dpkg -P <name?01:21
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Zairehmm i'll have to try that cause mysql configs aren't being purged and neither are php5's01:21
max1_no luch01:23
max1_luck*01:23
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DaSkreechAfter the apt-get update?01:24
DaSkreechdist-upgrade?01:24
max1_yes01:24
DaSkreechDid you try the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose vesa?01:26
max1_vesa?01:26
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DaSkreechYes instead of i81001:26
max1_i should try that?01:27
DaSkreechYes01:27
max1_ok01:27
max1_brb01:27
DaSkreech:-)01:27
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max1_DaSkreech: nothin01:28
DaSkreechStartx throws what error?01:29
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jason__hello01:29
jason__what's the proper way of loading kernel modules in a specific order on Edgy?  (in my case, these modules [usbhid, appletouch]  get autoloaded anyway, so I need to do it before hotplug/discover gets around to it, or blacklist the modules and specifically load them in /etc/modules)01:31
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max1_Fatal server error: no screens found  XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":o.o" after 0 requesting (0 known processed) with 0 events running01:32
DaSkreechmax1_: That's the literal error01:34
DaSkreech:o.o01:34
drizhey my good friends anyone knows what this means?----->E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:34
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max1_yes01:34
LjLdriz: close Adept01:34
max1_\wait01:35
drizoh ya thanks01:35
max1_its 0.001:35
max1_":0.0"01:35
max1_with the " in ti01:35
max1_it*01:35
DaSkreechAh Ok01:35
DaSkreechZero point zero then?01:35
DaSkreechnot Oh point Oh ?01:35
max1_yes01:35
max1_yes] 01:36
drizummmm... i did but it keeps saying it?01:36
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DaSkreechdriz: try dpkg --configure -a01:36
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DaSkreechsudo that :)01:36
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drizdpkg: status database area is locked by another process01:37
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drizthats what i got01:37
cpk2driz: is adept open?01:37
DaSkreechdriz: Sure you don't have adept/synaptic/dpkg/apt-get/aptitude running elsewhere?01:37
drizlet me try01:38
drizps -x01:38
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inteliwaspwhat is a good gui based text editor that is simaler to notepad and can be opened with a hot key01:39
drizDaSkreech: i don't see it in the list01:39
LjL!adept-crash-fix01:39
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"01:39
DaSkreechmax1_: Hmm01:39
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LjLinteliwasp: anything can be opened with a shortcut key, you just have to set one in System Settings01:40
DaSkreechMan I'm really hating on Kaffiene01:40
LjLinteliwasp: as for the editor, i think "kedit" is the most basic01:40
inteliwaspthanks01:40
drizLjL: thanks01:41
LjLinteliwasp: the default Kate is not that bad anyway, imho, even though it does have a few more buttons than Notepad...01:41
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soulriderdoes anyone know of a program i can use to block IPs and domains ?01:41
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soulriderkind of like peerguardian for windows01:41
soulriderbut easy to add and remove IPs and domainds01:42
soulriderdomains*01:42
LjLsoulrider: you can probably just edit the /etc/hosts.deny file01:42
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LjLsoulrider: "man hosts.deny"01:42
soulriderlol, i didnt know that existed :P01:42
m4x1mumguys i have install windows after installing kubuntu how to repair the grub?01:42
soulrideruhm01:42
soulrideri think i have enough programming skills to make a program to edit it :D01:42
DaSkreechryanakca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27045/plain/01:42
DaSkreechTHat's max1_'s xorg.conf01:43
drizi have this thing---->X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166---> it appears everytime i do some sort of command i have no idea why it comes up or how to fix it01:43
DaSkreechhe's getting an error of Fatal server error: no screens found  XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requesting (0 known processed) with 0 events running01:43
DaSkreechThis is directly after an upgrade to Edgy01:43
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gameman73how can i install eselect or opengl-update01:43
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m4x1mumcurrently i can only boot to windows, how to make the loader to recognise kubuntu as well? anyone?01:44
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ryanakcaDaSkreech: no clue... I used it, but not that much, the config file seems fine... did you try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?01:47
ryanakca(or whatever it is now in edgy)?01:47
drizcan anyone check this for me. I got the error after running "sudo apt-get update"01:47
DaSkreechHi h3sp4wn01:47
h3sp4wnhi01:47
drizhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27049/01:47
DaSkreech h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27045/plain/01:47
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: he's getting an error of Fatal server error: no screens found  XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requesting (0 known processed) with 0 events running01:47
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Where he == max1_01:47
DaSkreechryanakca: Ypu and dropped it back to vesa01:47
h3sp4wnOption          "XkbModel"      "pc11" (that is wrong)(01:48
ryanakcaodd...01:48
DaSkreechSo I don't think that it's a i810 error anymore01:48
ryanakcano...01:48
DaSkreech_max1: You there?01:48
max1_yes01:48
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DaSkreechh3sp4wn is saying that xkbmodel is wrong01:49
ryanakcaDaSkreech: XGL howto's tend to be good at debugging xorg stuff... (imho)... doesn't mean xgl will work with i810, just that they have lot's of troubleshooting info for various vid cards01:49
ryanakcayeah, shouldn't it be 'pc104' or something along those lines?01:49
h3sp4wnIf I was using i810 I would use edgy01:49
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h3sp4wn(much better intel video drivers in edgy)01:49
Kim^JHow do I turn of singleclick in KDE?01:50
ryanakcaKim^J: system settings / kcontrol01:50
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Kim^Jryanakca: And then?01:51
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: And that would throw a No screens Found Error?01:51
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ryanakcaKim^J: Keyboard & Mouse, Mouse, Icons -> change setting01:51
edytthelp!!! how to make the loader recognise linux again?? i installed windows after installing kubuntu01:51
Zairesome ppl may wanna read this http://kerneltrap.org/node/722801:51
Zaireits about the nvidia kernel01:51
BonBonTheJondriz: you need to run 'wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add'01:52
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ryanakcaedytt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:52
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: No but it would probably complain about the keyboard01:52
DaSkreech!grub > edytt01:53
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DaSkreechh3sp4wn: So that's not the problem then01:53
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drizBonBonTheJon: it doesn't seem to work?01:54
gameman73call me stupid, but whats the server glx vendor string supposed to be when your using ati's drivers  (from glxinfo)01:54
drizW: GPG BonBonTheJon:  error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371801:55
DaSkreechh3sp4wn, ryanakca: Any Flashes of perception?01:55
BonBonTheJondriz: ok do 'wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg' to download the gpg01:55
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BonBonTheJondriz: tell me when that is done downloading01:56
ryanakcaDaSkreech: none at the moment... it's probably something tediously simple that we've overlooked... or not :)01:56
DaSkreechWell that's 4 people now (5 counting max1_)01:57
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dbgltok01:57
dbgltjust changed all instances of dapper to edgy in my sources.list then ran an update, then a dist-upgrade... I downloaded about 660mb of stuff, and now there are a few packages it can't find01:57
dbgltand it won't let me continue01:57
drizBonBonTheJon:01:57
drizW: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371801:57
drizW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems01:57
drizoops sorry01:58
BonBonTheJondriz: did it download the gpg key01:58
dbgltfirefox, and a few kdegraphics packages and some libpopler thing01:58
dbgltany way to fix that up? :\01:58
edyttif i rewrite the windows bootloaded will i be able to boot to windows later?01:58
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max1_\01:58
drizBonBonTheJon: I'm sure it did01:58
drizya01:58
edytt?01:58
BonBonTheJondriz: ok, now run 'sudo apt-key add 12B83718.gpg' to add it01:59
max1_DaSkreech: ?01:59
drizBonBonTheJon: it said ok should i run "sudo apt-get update"01:59
BonBonTheJonedytt: do you mean to have more of a time out02:00
BonBonTheJondriz:02:00
BonBonTheJonyes02:00
DaSkreechedytt: As long as grub can handle it02:00
DaSkreechmax1_: Yes?02:00
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max1_do you not no anything else i could do about my problem?02:00
max1_know*02:01
drizBonBonTheJon: ok it's done and it worked. after the update how do i make the full changes? is it "sudo apt-get upgrade"?02:01
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BonBonTheJondriz: yeah, if you just got the listings, then upgrade to get the goods02:01
drizBonBonTheJon: sweet thanks man02:01
BonBonTheJondriz: glad to be of service02:02
drizcool :-)02:02
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livingdaylightis it still KDE's Birthday?02:03
BonBonTheJonlivingdaylight: it was on Saturday02:03
livingdaylightoh... i missed it02:03
livingdaylightany cake left?02:04
drizoh man problem!!! >.< The following packages have unmet dependencies: python2.4-dev: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.4.3-0ubuntu4) but 2.4.3-0ubuntu6 is installeE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.d02:04
drizE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.02:04
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BonBonTheJondriz: sorry, i don't know much about python02:06
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drizBonBonTheJon: ok :(02:07
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DaSkreechmax1_: Well I'm going off the xorg.conf idea and so far it seems that's not what is throwing the error02:09
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Maybe it could be that there is no program starting up?02:10
DaSkreechKDM isn02:10
DaSkreech't running?02:10
cpk2driz: try apt-get install -f02:10
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max1_ok02:10
pedro3494hi02:11
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drizawsome.. :-D works now thanks again02:11
max1_DaSkreech: do you know what else it could possiblybe?02:11
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max1_ be*02:11
DaSkreechWell the section about it not having any requests is owrrying to me02:11
BonBonTheJonhey cpk202:12
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Some people don't use kdm (me included)02:12
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cpk2driz: -f install worked?02:12
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DaSkreechh3sp4wn: What would X call then?02:12
DaSkreechIt's getting no requests it says which seems fishy to me02:12
cpk2BonBonTheJon: hi02:13
drizcpk2: ya02:13
peacekprlupine_85: FYI, your suggestion of "sudo swapoff -a" worked for my harddrive partioning issue from LiveCD02:13
peacekprmuch appreciated :)02:13
kkathmanbbiab02:14
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drizI just tried to do those updates listed on the kubuntu website but all i got was an ok how do i get them installed.02:14
BonBonTheJondriz: what updates02:14
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SiLOXnatalia: have u solved your problem with the printserver? :)02:15
drizBonBonTheJon: i thought i after adding the keys and get those ok everything should be done but i dont think i installed them just added the keys02:16
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: So has X never worked for the case in question ?02:16
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: is that busid in the Device section ok?02:16
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Wroked great right up unti a dist-upgrade to edgy02:16
drizi tried the apt-get update and upgrade and nothing happened... Do i have them installed already?02:16
BonBonTheJondriz: when you run 'sudo apt-get update' does it still give errors02:16
cpk2driz: what are you trying to install?02:17
BonBonTheJondriz: you must have the latest versions02:17
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Why ask in here then ? (you were making me think it was dapper)02:17
BonBonTheJondriz: plus that repository holds mostly codecs for windows files02:17
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: ask whoever to go to ubuntu+102:17
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DaSkreechh3sp4wn: I've been asking in +1 but no one seems to say anything :)02:17
drizno more errors. i was trying to get the new KOffice 1.6 and KDE 3.5.502:17
cpk2driz: you can check versions of what you have installed by doing apt-cache policy koffice02:18
peacekprdoes anyone have the *real* solution to the ATI issue?  i'm getting error messages that look like this: "[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT"02:18
DaSkreechmax1_: can You type /join #ubuntu+102:18
BonBonTheJondriz: kde 3.5.5 is in a different repo, check the kubuntu web site to add the repo and key02:18
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max1_tom_: you still in here?02:18
peacekpri replaced libGL.so.1.2 with a version that supposedly worked.. it did until I rebooted... then it decided to stop working02:19
cpk2BonBonTheJon: easysource has the latest kde repo02:19
drizBonBonTheJon: i added the repos and keys as instructed on the website02:19
_kkathmandriz you probably have one for 3.5.4, just change that to 3.5.5  and update/upgrade02:19
DaSkreechmax1_: type /join #ubuntu+1 in irssi02:19
cpk2its easier to use the latest kde repo so you dont always have to change the version number02:19
drizcpk2: my koffice is 1.502:19
max1_but ive been in here for more than three hours, i dont want to explain for another three hours in another channel02:19
BonBonTheJon!easysource02:20
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:20
cpk2driz: is that the version you wanted? =P02:20
DaSkreechmax1_: someone says they may havea solution02:20
max1_oh, ok02:20
drizcpk2: i want the new  ver.1.602:20
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peacekpri need to get OpenGL working for my ATI card so I can take the GRE "PowerPrep" practice using wine02:21
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cpk2driz: the repos dont usually have the bleeding edge newest releases02:21
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DaSkreechmax1_: Done that?02:21
max1_yes, im in there02:22
|Mikael|hi there!02:22
drizcpk2: oh... but the website has add rhe repoes and keys and i added them iwas guessing they would be there.   oh well i'll try again later02:22
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cpk2driz: i have the kubuntu.org koffice repo and it looks like 1.5.91 is the latest available02:23
drizoh mine is just the plain 1.502:24
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cpk2driz: nevermind you are right, you should be able to get 1.602:25
_kkathmandoes anyone know how to suppress that "Popup Blocked" messages that constantly comes up in Konq- its as obnoxious as the popup it self :)02:25
cpk2driz: you added the repo from the directions on kubuntu.org?02:25
drizcpk2: have you ever had Adept just stop working at the point where it was suppose to download the stuff.02:25
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drizcpk2: oh and ya i got a OK response after adding them02:26
cpk2driz: i suppose it might look like that if it cant connect to the site02:26
drizuh... ok then02:27
cpk2driz: try using apt-get, you will get more output if there is something wrong02:27
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drizcpk2: apt-get upgrade? i tried many times never mentions koffice02:29
cpk2driz: and you already did apt-get update?02:29
drizyupo02:29
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cpk2can you pastebin your sources.list?02:30
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Hawkwinddeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-16/ dapper main02:30
Hawkwinddriz: Have you tried adding that source ?02:30
drizHawkwind: um... no02:30
Hawkwinddriz: If you do, you'll get koffice 1.602:31
drizoh ok02:31
drizi'll do it02:31
_kkathmanhmm is there any configuration in Konq for popup??? hehe02:31
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cpk2Hawkwind: that isnt the first repo listed at kubuntu.org so I was assuming he was using one of the other ones at the top =P02:31
Hawkwindcpk2: I've had that repo for a while, back when it was beta1.  I just changed the line from -16beta1 to just -16 and it works :P02:32
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cpk2Hawkwind: I would use the kubuntu.org repo too but for some reason they listed that repo at the bottom of their how to to get koffice02:33
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flaccid_what does it mean when in adept, the requested status of an upgradeable package is no change02:34
Hawkwindcpk2: It means nothing if it's listed at the bottom.  You can't list everything at the top.  Just a matter of how it was typed up is all.  You can use any of them02:34
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peacekprbrb02:35
drizya i did using wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg and the one under it02:35
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drizi got an ok and tried update then upgrade and nothing02:35
flaccid_i get this when doing an apt upgrade:02:36
flaccid_The following packages have been kept back:  proftpd02:36
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flaccid_!keptback02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keptback - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
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cpk2flaccid_: just install it02:39
cpk2driz: you needed to add the repos below that too =P02:39
flaccid_cpk2: ?02:39
drizcpk2: haha oh ok i'll make sure i do that next time thanks02:40
cpk2flaccid_: try apt-get install proftpd02:40
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flaccid_cpk2: why is it doing this?02:40
cpk2it might have broken depends02:41
cpk2it might break other packages02:41
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cpk2you might have put a hold on it02:41
drizcpk2: all of the repos? or can you just pick one02:41
flaccid_ok02:41
cpk2driz: just one, so the one that Hawkwind gave you will work02:42
flaccid_i dislike how adept says nothing about it02:42
cpk2adept might but sometimes it is hard to find the information on adept02:42
drizawesome thanks a lot guys :-D02:42
drizha it's working now.... aah02:44
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CNotehi guys...may I ask for some assistance connecting to a WEP Encrypted AP?02:47
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CNotehi guys...may I ask for some assistance connecting to a WEP Encrypted AP?02:48
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HawkwindCNote: Just ask your question and no need to repeat yourself every minute or so02:49
CNoteI am getting connection failures when trying to connect to the device, it has a static IP, and I have tried entering the WEP key as ASCII, but each time it fails...02:50
ShneeCNote: what are using to connect?02:51
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CNoteipw3945 using the 2.6.15-23-686 SMP kernel to a linksys AP02:52
CNoteand trying to use th wireless assistant02:52
Shneewell the best ways wep are wpa_supplicant or knetworkmanager02:52
CNoteshnee: why do i not see knetworkmanager02:53
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Shneeit doesnt come installed02:53
CNotehmm02:53
CNotejust apt-get it?02:53
Shneeyeh02:53
CNoteok thanks02:53
CNoteI'll mess with it02:53
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Shneeso whats everyones irc program of choice im trying to decide between kopete, konversation, and kvirc02:55
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soulrideri like GAIM for everything but IRC, i use konversation for that02:55
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BonBonTheJonShnee: konversation for irc02:57
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david_kokp03:02
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coreymon77!seen ceros03:10
ubotuI last saw ceros (n=user@c-68-49-247-245.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 2d 8h 34m 28s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection03:10
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DaSkreechNight all03:13
DaSkreechtime for dinner03:14
BonBonTheJonnight03:14
BonBonTheJonDaSkreech: dinner, where are you at03:14
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BonBonTheJon!seen BonBonTheJon > BonBonTheJon03:14
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ubuntucould someone please help me with a kernel question03:15
BonBonTheJonubuntu: ask away03:15
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DaSkreechBonBonTheJon: You don't wanna know :)03:15
stodgeHi - what package do I install for video playback? I installed the codecs but is there a backend I need?03:15
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BonBonTheJonstodge: you have some choices, vlc, kmplayer, mplayer, kaffeine03:16
ubuntuok i am not a linux user...but i seem to have lost a file from my windows os...and i have all the kernals on disk...how would i go about installing them from linux?03:16
BonBonTheJonstodge: kaffeine is installed by default, i think03:16
stodgeI have kaffeine, but do I need a backend? gstreamer etc?03:16
BonBonTheJonstodge: xine, maybe03:17
rawrnessgood news i got my internet working again i just ditched the install disk that canicol sent to me so nicly03:17
rawrnessand used the alternet install as i first did03:17
stodgeAh ok03:17
Vuenhey, did anyone else's konsole fonts change after the last dist-upgrade?03:17
cpk2i am pretty sure libxine-extracodecs installs xine too?03:18
ubuntucause i know that the linux disc i have boots from a kernel...how do i install windows from the kernal?03:18
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gameman73is it possible to move a window accross xservers running on a machine/03:19
BonBonTheJonubuntu: do you have linux installed already?03:19
ubuntuyes....but its not userfriendly...well for us anyways03:19
BonBonTheJonubuntu: and does it boot correctly?03:20
ubuntuyes....linux does...but you see i want to get back to windows03:20
BonBonTheJonubuntu: and get rid of linux?03:20
BonBonTheJonubuntu: or dual-boot so you have both03:20
ubuntui dont care if linux is here but i need to restore windows for the wife03:21
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DaSkreechubuntu: Oh wait you installed Linux and Destroyed the WIndows partition?03:21
ubuntuyeah...but i have a disk with all the windows kernels...the guy at the pc shop said that those would fix it but how?03:22
Shoiabi have a problem!!! l am un_able to connect with Internet through ubuntu!!! i install Linuxant modem driver!!! with which kubuntu detected my modem!! but when it hang after verifying user-name & password at login to network!!! i feel it unable to start pppd what i di?????03:22
BonBonTheJonubuntu: if you want to clear everything off and put windows back on, then put the windows cd in and delete all the partitions, then have windows make a new partition, and install as normal03:23
ubuntui cant find the original windows cd...i have just the i386 folder03:23
rawrnessOuch03:23
flaccid_ubuntu: you are stuffed then03:23
cpk2i think we should get to the root of the problem about how ubuntu isnt user friendly =P03:24
BonBonTheJoncpk2: that is a topic for a different time, lol03:24
ubuntusorry cpk....just harder to learn03:24
ubuntuhave to reboot03:24
FreeT15Shoiad: try to restart pppd ?03:24
cpk2ubuntu: no worries, just joking around =) it can be hard to jump in head first for someone using windows their whole life03:25
JumBoBoobswhat is the best burning program that i can use that will convert mp3's back to regular cd-format music for use in a car cd player?03:25
cpk2JumBoBoobs: k3b03:25
JumBoBoobstried it,03:25
JumBoBoobssays mp3 is unknown format03:26
cpk2and?03:26
JumBoBoobs^^03:26
Shoiabhow i do that03:26
cpk2can you play mp3s on your computer?03:26
flaccid_!mp3 > JumBoBoobs03:26
JumBoBoobscpk2: yes03:26
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cpk2you have libxine-extracodecs?03:26
FreeT15Shoiad: you   must list your status of PCI device to show us03:26
intelikeyok maybe i'm caught up...03:26
JumBoBoobsflaccid_:  i know waht an mp3 is, i know how make them and use them, just cant get k3b to convert them back to cd format....03:27
BonBonTheJonJumBoBoobs: you need to install libk3b2-mp303:27
JumBoBoobsumm, not sure03:27
JumBoBoobsi will look03:27
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cpk2intelikey: on?03:28
JumBoBoobslibxine-extracodecs <--- installed03:28
JumBoBoobslibk3b2-mp3 <--- installing03:28
intelikeyhmmm?   oh finished a project.03:28
BonBonTheJonJumBoBoobs: after that installs, k3b should be able to work with mp3s03:29
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JumBoBoobsawome03:29
JumBoBoobsthank u BonBonTheJon and cpk203:29
JumBoBoobshrm03:29
Shoiablist your status of PCI device????03:29
JumBoBoobsthe dude from suse was right,boobs get attention :)03:29
intelikeybrad yeah strange aint it.03:30
flaccid_!libk3b2-mp303:30
ubotulibk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB03:30
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flaccid_hmm yeah JumBoBoobs didn't realise its not mentioned on any of those pages03:30
JumBoBoobsthat worked03:30
JumBoBoobsawsome03:30
flaccid_perhaps someone with access to ubotu can make entry for libk3b2-mp3 under !k3bmp3 or something03:31
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ShoiabFreeT15: how i find status of PCI device???03:32
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intelikey!update the bot ?03:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about update the bot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:32
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Ahmuck! update03:32
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:32
Vuen!ubotu03:32
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage03:32
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intelikey http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage  redirrects to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage   so why do they leave the 's' out of it...03:34
ShoiabFreeT15: how i find status of PCI device???03:34
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intelikeylspci ?03:34
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coreymon77!ubugtu03:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubugtu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
luis_lopez!lspci03:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
coreymon77is ubotu out dated?03:35
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intelikeycoreymon77 prolly it's more than a week old.03:36
flaccid_huh outdated, week old?03:36
intelikeyflaccid_ :)03:36
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Shoiabhmmm; no reply03:37
intelikeyhmmm not quite caught up yet....03:37
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prophitcan anyone walk me through on how to install azureus?03:43
cpk2sudo apt-get install azureus03:44
cpk2thats it03:44
prophitwhats that cpk?03:44
cpk2thats the walk through on installing azureus03:44
prophitdo i just type that into the shell?03:44
cpk2yup03:44
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cpk2you will probably want to go get the 2.5 jar from sourceforge though since the azureus repo is a little old03:45
Shoiab i have a problem!!! l am un_able to connect with Internet through ubuntu!!! i install Linuxant modem driver!!! with which kubuntu detected my modem!! but when it hang after verifying user-name & password at login to network!!! i feel it unable to start pppd what i di?????03:45
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rawrnessjfun03:50
lters_Shoiab: try to do a dial with minicom03:50
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gl0behow do I reconfigure xserver when installing a new video card?  Onboard intel -> agp nvidia03:53
lters_gl0be: x still runing?03:53
gl0belters_: no...it fails miserably03:54
lters_n/p03:54
gl0beI am chatting from term irc...:-)03:54
lters_sudo apt-get install vim03:54
gl0beI have vim03:54
lters_fancy03:54
lters_k, good03:54
lters_colors turned on?03:54
gl0beindeed03:54
Jucatogl0be: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:55
lters_even better.03:55
gl0beJucato: I believe tahtI tried that one already03:55
lters_what video card is it?03:55
gl0benvidia fx 5200 128mb03:56
lters_lsmod | grep nvidia03:56
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lters_that will show if the modiule/driver is loaded.03:56
gl0bedo I have to do anything with the video bus since I have 2x video cards (onboard + new agp)?03:56
lters_ah, hmm03:56
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Jucatogl0be: not really. afaik, the AGP overrides the IGP03:57
lters_is that what the PCI line is about.03:57
lters_did u do the lsmod test?03:57
gl0belsmod | grep nvidia returns nothing03:57
lters_k, do modprobe nvidia03:57
Jucatogl0be: you probably don't have the "nvidia" driver installed. use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then select the "nv" driver first03:57
gl0beYea, I did that about an hour ago....it detected and selected that driver for me03:58
lters_Jucato: does the nvidia-glx include the module?03:58
Jucatolters_: nvidia module? yes03:58
lters_gl0be: did the modprobe work?03:59
Jucatobut gl0be needs to install the linux-restricted-modules matching his linux-image version for nvidia-glx (non-free driver) to work03:59
gl0belters_: ?03:59
intelikeymore like depends on it.03:59
lters_gl0be: dmesg | tail should show something03:59
gl0beoh ... I didn't see that.03:59
lters_gl0be: modprobe nvidia03:59
gl0belters04:00
gl0be I did the modprobe...it justreturned.04:00
lters_gl0be: good, do the "dmseg | tail04:00
lters_dmesg04:00
Jucato(without the quotes)04:00
lters_yeah04:00
Jucato:)04:00
gl0beI did that too, and nothnig about the video card...bluetooth mainly04:01
Jucatogl0be: did you install nvidia-glx?04:01
gl0beno.04:01
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lters_Jucato: is there a nifty way to get the winmodem driver for a thinkpad04:02
lters_gl0be: u will have to install the nvidia-glx04:03
Jucatoer... um... no clue :(04:03
intelikeyJucato is that a edgy salamander system ?04:03
gl0beI got it working with the nv driver.  I think that the problem was that I had kernel framebuffering enabled04:03
lters_conexion or somthing.04:03
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gl0bethats a guess though04:03
rawrnesswhats the one app that emutes a quake terminal it like  yakue or such04:03
Jucatosudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)04:03
Jucatointelikey: heh :P04:03
BonBonTheJon!yakue04:03
cpk2yakuake i think04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yakue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
Jucatoit's a quad-colored butterfly system :)04:03
rawrness!yakuake04:03
BonBonTheJon!yakuake04:03
ubotuyakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB04:03
Jucato!yakuake > BonBonTheJon04:04
cpk2i win!04:04
rawrnessthere we go thanks04:04
Jucatolol04:04
gl0beJucato: lters_: thanks for your help04:04
Jucatocpk2: only because of a technicality :P04:04
cpk2hehe04:04
prophitok <cpk2>....i followed the instructions on how to install flashplayer 7 but it just keeps saying that the package could not be found04:04
lters_n/p Gotta love linux04:04
prophitplease help04:04
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BonBonTheJonhas anyone heard from the user ubuntu who was trying to fix his windows installation04:05
T3hWiz0r1BonBonTheJon: we ate him.04:05
rawrnessvery tasty04:06
BonBonTheJonT3hWiz0r1: NOOOOOOOOOO04:06
Jucatolol. he should have changed his nick to kubuntu to avoid getting digested04:06
rawrnessXD04:06
rawrnessgnomes always taste good04:06
prophitbonbob thats me04:06
cpk2!info flashplugin-nonfree04:06
Jucatodragons love eating gnomes, eh? :)04:06
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)04:06
prophitright here04:06
T3hWiz0r1T3hWiz0rd: LEAVE! NOW!04:06
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Jucatolol04:07
Vuenwhy is it that we don't have a free version of the flash plugin? is it not legal or something?04:07
cpk2prophit: do you have multiverse enabled?04:07
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prophiti have no clue...how would i check?04:07
intelikey!restricted04:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:07
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cpk2prophit: pastebin your sources.list04:08
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prophitpastebun??????????????/04:08
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Jucato!pastebin04:08
intelikey!paste04:08
BonBonTheJon!pastebin04:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:08
intelikeylol04:08
Jucatoi win this time :)04:08
BonBonTheJonlol04:08
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NightBirdwow... pastebin is popular...04:09
intelikeyJucato not on my screen....04:09
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Jucatodoesn't matter :P04:09
NightBirdJucato won on my screen04:09
BonBonTheJonmy screen says i won04:09
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intelikeybut i'm sure you did.04:09
JucatoVuen: you might want to have a look at this page for Ubuntu's definition of "non-free": http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components04:09
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: day 3 hmmm... kubuntu lives.04:09
cpk2Jucato won on my screen04:10
t3hwiz0rdkkathman: rawr04:10
prophitok have the pastebun thing open but where are my sources?04:10
VuenJucato: i understand what non free means04:10
Jucatook. I won. end of discussion :)04:10
t3hwiz0rdprophit: apt-get sources?04:10
Vueni understand the difference between free speech and free beer, thanks04:10
cpk2prophit: do cat /etc/apt/sources.list04:10
intelikeyt3hwiz0rd you haven't been playing with it eeeh ?04:10
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Zairehey cpk2 what do I have to change on this aside from pass SET PASSWORD FOR 'bob'@'%.loc.gov' = PASSWORD('newpass');04:10
cpk2prophit: or kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:10
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: theres only so much i change on linux installs to fit my needs.04:10
JucatoVuen: no. that page is more than that distinction. that page explains which packages go into which repository (main, restricted, universe, multiverse)04:11
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: my primary needs revolve around security, music playback, stability, and quick web browsing.04:11
Zairewell pass and name04:11
VuenJucato: i know that too, why are you telling me this?04:11
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: but i also play in the terminal... but i install vmware servers for the really crazzzy stuff i try lol04:11
Vueni'm asking why no one has written an open source replacement for flash. is it because it wouldn't be legal?04:11
Zaire?04:11
cpk2Zaire: i dont know, i'm not sure if % is supposed to be a wildcard or just acting as foo04:12
JucatoVuen: there's always Gnash04:12
flaccid_what config file(s) does konsole use?04:12
Jucatoflaccid_: what do you mean?04:12
Zairewell the line I coppied is from the mysql site04:12
flaccid_Jucato: configuration files for its settings04:12
cpk2Zaire: and you would need to have an account named bob already made04:13
ssh12543who can conect here ?(ssh) I give password. help plz04:13
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: i try not to break the liunux install I primarily work off of or else its back to using my ibook full time and I hate even trying to do that to my poor ol' lappy04:13
Jucatoflaccid_: ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc I presume?04:13
cpk2ssh12543: you dont want to do that04:13
flaccid_Jucato: is that all?04:13
ZaireI did a format and fresh install of kubuntu04:13
prophitok i did that pastebin thing but how are you going to look at it?04:13
cpk2prophit: paste the location here04:13
ssh12543cpk2: I need04:13
prophithttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27058/04:14
Jucatoflaccid_: well, that would contain the changes the user made. system/admin config files would probably be in /etc/kde3 or /usr/share/. not really sure (not on Linux right now)04:14
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Vuen!Gnash04:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:14
BonBonTheJonssh12543: what do you need help with04:14
Zairemy question though is what is the .loc.gov part of that command for?04:14
JucatoVuen: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/04:14
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t3hwiz0rdT3hWiz0r1 << wtf? lol04:15
dudehello04:15
t3hwiz0rdi thought i kicked that out?04:15
t3hwiz0rdwait... lol....04:15
dudeguys04:15
ssh12543BonBonTheJon: I need test one p2p server. the ssh is the client. you can download the files whith ftp04:15
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cpk2Zaire: oh, the loc.gov is on the mysql help page?04:15
ssh12543cpk2: I need test one p2p server. the ssh is the client. you can download the files whith ftp04:15
Zairecpk2: yea04:15
t3hwiz0rdrofl-copter, i had irssi screened and forgot04:15
cpk2Zaire: then use your domain04:15
Zaireso replace that with localhost then04:16
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BonBonTheJonssh12543: so you have two machines, one running an ftp server, the other is trying to transfer files?04:16
t3hwiz0rddude: DUDDEE! whats up!04:16
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dudet3hwizord: cool04:17
Shoia104:17
Shoia1The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!04:17
Shoia1Exit status: 104:17
Shoia1See 'man pppd' for an explanation of the error codes or take a look at the kppp FAQ on http://developer.kde.org/~kppp/index.html04:17
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ssh12543BonBonTheJon: no. 1 server. ftp and p2p client running in 1 machine04:17
cpk2Zaire: so i guess the name of the computer you are connecting from or its ip would probably work04:17
Shoia1i get that error04:17
dudet3hwizord: have you tried beryl?04:17
Zairek i'll have to try that04:17
Shoia1what i du04:18
t3hwiz0rdnope, I am not really interested in XGL because it is too buggy and can break linux.04:18
Shoia1im ubuntu04:18
t3hwiz0rdI've used Compiz and XGL before, and it ate my system.04:18
BonBonTheJonssh12543: what is on machine 104:18
t3hwiz0rdBonBonTheJon: he said both are on the same machine04:18
dudet3hwizord: veryl is different from compiz ryt?04:18
t3hwiz0rddude: to some degree, but you are still using very beta software.04:19
cpk2prophit: see this line? # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe delete the # and add multiverse to the end of it04:19
t3hwiz0rddude: you need to be prepared for it to do the worst possible.04:19
BonBonTheJonShoia1: were we helping you with your windows install before04:19
dudet3hwizord: well im planing to use beryl nut im still afraid hehehe04:19
cpk2prophit: so do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and then edit it04:19
dudet3hwizord: well im planing to use beryl but im still afraid hehehe04:19
t3hwiz0rddude: its a good idea to fear xgl right now.04:19
t3hwiz0rdtheres really thing in it essential to you, so why not wait until a final release yanno?04:20
ssh12543BonBonTheJon: FTP server, p2p server. the p2p server download the files and save in ftp. you connect can p2p server in ssh04:20
ssh12543BonBonTheJon: enter in #ssh123 for password04:20
dudet3hwizord: i need vmaware to elimanate dual booting, i installed it but i don't know how to use it04:21
t3hwiz0rdssh12543: ftp is a really insecure transfer type.04:21
Shoia1i am not able to understand what you say??? bonbon04:21
intelikeypfft  no wonder you boast of ubuntu still being running t3hwiz0rd,  you don't even use the new apps/drivers.  (hehhe xgl)04:21
intelikey:)04:22
dudei need a complete transition from xp to kubuntu04:22
intelikey!p2p04:23
ubotuConventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.04:23
cpk2dude: how is vmware going to help you get rid of windows?04:23
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t3hwiz0rddude: vmware server is free to download.04:24
dudecpk2: as of now im still using some of windows application04:25
intelikey!vmware04:25
unix_infideli fail to see how being virtually rooted is less bad than being physically rooted if its a production setup.04:25
prophitanyone here use xandros?04:25
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare04:25
ssh12543bobesponja: ola, voce aqui ? sou MnB Linuxer04:25
cpk2dude: and wine cant help you there?04:25
Jucatohm.. that wiki is for VMWare Player I think04:25
t3hwiz0rdwith vmware do usb devices work in windows on it?04:25
prophitis this the only channel on irc?....04:25
intelikeyunix_infidel "physically rooted" ???04:25
unix_infidel!br > ssh1254304:25
LeeJunFant3hwiz0rd: some, but only as usb1 - not high speed.04:25
unix_infidel!br04:26
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.04:26
dudecpk2: hmmm, its kinda slow 4 me04:26
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cpk2prophit: did you edit you sources.list?04:26
cpk2dude: and emulation is faster?04:26
prophiteidt them...i dont even know what they are04:26
BonBonTheJonShoia1: were you in here before asking how to fix your windows installation04:26
cpk2[19:20]  <cpk2> prophit: see this line? # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe delete the # and add multiverse to the end of it04:26
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cpk2[19:21]  <cpk2> prophit: so do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and then edit it04:26
t3hwiz0rdLeeJunFan: well if uvc wecams worked on linux i'd be done using windows 100%04:27
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dudecpk2: never tried emulation, that's why i trying to use vmware...04:27
dudecpk2: never tried emulation, that's why im trying to use vmware...04:27
cpk2... vmware is emulation04:27
LeeJunFant3hwiz0rd: webcam's are cheap now, get a new one :)04:27
t3hwiz0rdLeeJunFan: my fusion is one of the best on the market, i refuse to downgrade for linux :-)04:27
intelikeythere is no default *buntu system that isn't ch/pivot-rooted.  the real root is the ramdisk that the initrd.img sets up.04:27
LeeJunFant3hwiz0rd: it's not downgrading if it works with linux and the other doesn't :p04:28
LeeJunFant3hwiz0rd: I would consider using windows for your web cam downgrading.04:28
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t3hwiz0rdLeeJunFan: yes, as far as video quality goes, it would be a downgrade if i went to a lower one. Its that type of zealot attitude that makes linux suck in some of the areas it dos.04:28
intelikeyheh from propritary to open is always an upgrade04:29
Zaireapt for some reason doesn't seem to be able to find the pbpbb2-conf-mysql package04:29
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BonBonTheJont3hwiz0rd: have you looked into http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/04:29
t3hwiz0rdyeah, BonBonTheJon, buggy can't seem to get it to work04:29
cpk2!info phpbb2-conf-mysql04:30
LeeJunFant3hwiz0rd: well it (windows) seems like overkill as a 1.5GB driver for your webcam though.04:30
ubotuphpbb2-conf-mysql: Automatic configurator for phpbb2 on MySQL database. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-2 (dapper), package size 45 kB, installed size 124 kB04:30
Zaireapt also can't seem to find phpbb2 either04:30
prophitdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse                  is that what i should have?04:30
LeeJunFant3hwiz0rd: although HP's printer driver downloads are approaching that size these days :)04:30
Jucatoprophit: yes04:30
cpk2dude: correct me if I am wrong but vmware should be slower than wine04:31
prophitok04:31
Zaireactually vmwares not half bad but for games big no no04:31
prophitis that all i have to do?04:31
intelikeyZaire phpbb2-conf-mysql exists04:31
unix_infidelwell, its "near native" virtualization.04:31
intelikeyphpbb2 - A fully featured and skinnable flat (non-threaded) webforum04:31
unix_infideland wine is emulation.04:31
unix_infidelthey arent comparable.04:31
ZaireI know but my kubuntu seems not to04:31
Jucatocpk2: it should be. but there are so many things that Wine can't do that VMWare can04:31
dudecpk2: im using remote desktop, limewire, ftp client, and some windows application that i wanna eliminate,04:31
intelikeywine is not emulation04:32
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unix_infidelor rather, i'm wrong, wine is not emulation.04:32
Jucatounix_infidel: wine = Wine Is Not an Emulator04:32
intelikeywine is wine is not an emulator04:32
unix_infidel:P04:32
dudei want complete transition04:32
unix_infidelyea, i dont know where that came from.04:32
dudei want acomplete transition04:32
unix_infideli should say vmware is near native,04:32
LeeJunFandude: krdc for remote desktop04:32
unix_infidelwine is an attempt at native.04:32
prophithow to i find a list of rooms on here04:32
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dudeLeeJunFan: i can't configure krdc04:32
prophitor a channel list?04:33
intelikeyprophit don't  /list04:33
Zaireapparently I still had repo's commented04:33
prophitdont /list04:33
intelikeyno don't04:33
cpk2intelikey: I manage to /list without any problems?04:33
unix_infidelprophit: google freenode and searchirc04:33
Zairethere we go it found phpbb204:33
TFroghas anyone here tried the program kstreamripper?04:33
dudecpk2: i installed wine but its not working04:33
intelikeycpk2 ;/04:34
cpk2!work04:34
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.04:34
dudecpk2: actually, im beginning to love ubuntu/kubuntu, the only problem is the application, i need to integrate some of the windows apps to kubuntu04:35
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cpk2dude: but why isnt wine working?04:36
intelikeywhy ?04:36
BonBonTheJondude: what programs04:36
crazykogaoh hi04:36
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crazykogawhat the hell is this?04:36
prophitok how do i join the rooms04:36
BonBonTheJoncrazykoga: hi04:36
crazykogathis is so cute04:36
crazykogalol04:36
cpk2prophit: /join room04:36
Jucatoprophit: /join #channel04:36
crazykogahi04:36
cpk2prophit: try /join #ubuntu04:36
crazykogacan someone tell04:36
crazykogabrb04:36
intelikeythis is a help channel04:36
dudebonbon: ftp client which is stable, remote desktop,04:37
intelikeyftp is stable04:37
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intelikeyncftp04:38
BonBonTheJondude: how about vnc?04:38
dudecpk2: how do you use wine, i mean procedure04:38
dudebonbon: vnc?04:38
intelikeytight-vnc04:38
BonBonTheJon!vnc04:38
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.04:38
intelikey!tight-vnc04:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tight-vnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:38
cpk2dude: first get a more up to date repo from winehq and then install it with apt-get04:38
cpk2dude: also winehq has a DB of apps that work with it04:38
dudecpk2: can i use adept for that04:38
cpk2dude: yes04:39
BonBonTheJondude: have you tried gftp04:39
intelikeykong does ftp too04:39
intelikeygentoo does ftp04:40
dudebonbon; yes, is there a cute ftp for kubuntu? : )04:40
BonBonTheJon!freenx04:40
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX04:40
cpk2isnt konq a ftp client?04:40
intelikeykonqueror does ftp04:40
prophitoi how do i register my name on nickserv?04:40
intelikeyyes04:40
dudei can't configure freenx either04:40
intelikey/msg nickserv help04:40
Zairedamn I was so close I got the root account it was going through the process to start creating the database and bang error could not create tables, erro when connecting to the mysql database04:41
dudecpk2: can you instruct me04:41
dudecpk2: on how to use wine04:41
cpk2dude: if you told us what the actual problems were we might be able to help you get this stuff working04:41
cpk2dude: what are you trying to install with wine?04:41
dudecpk2: it is already installed04:42
cpk2Zaire: is mysql running?04:42
dude!freenx04:42
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX04:42
Zaireas far as I know yep04:42
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t3hwiz0rdBonBonTheJon: see i've done the driver install a few times even reinstalled and double checked, it just doesn't seem to work.04:44
dudecpk2: using wine, how do i use it04:44
Zaireyep its on04:44
cpk2Zaire: but you managed to change the root password?04:44
BonBonTheJont3hwiz0rd: i dunno, i dont have a webcam04:44
Zairewell I had to create the root account first but yes04:44
cpk2dude: wine usethis.exe04:45
dudecan some one guide me in installing freenx04:45
intelikeydude in a terminal you type in " wine /path/to/file.exe "  that you want to run.04:45
dudecpk2: terminal window?04:45
Vuendude, there's a great guide on ubuntuguide, hold on04:45
cpk2dude: what intelikey said04:45
Vuendude, do you want freenx, because the nomachine nx software is a lot better04:45
Vuenhere's a tutorial on installing nomachine nx:04:46
Vuenhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX04:46
Zairemysql> CREATE DATABASE PHPBB2;04:46
ZaireQuery OK, 1 row affected (0.01 sec)04:46
Vuenit's faster and more stable than freenx, but it's proprietary04:47
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Vuenand it only lets you use up to two sessions at once i think04:47
Vueni use it, it works great04:47
intelikeyVuen is that quite different than tightvnc ?04:48
cpk2Zaire: that means it worked04:48
cpk2Zaire: btw the name of the database you are creating doesnt have to be caps04:48
Vuenintelikey: yes. tightvnc lets you connect to the session in progress, while nx creates a new session04:49
Zairecept the phpbb2-con-mysql seemingly can't populate it04:49
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intelikeytightvncserver - virtual network computing server software04:49
Vuenso someone else can be using your computer while you are working through nx04:49
dude_cpk2: terminal window?04:49
dude_can some one guide me in installing freenx04:49
intelikeyah ok.04:49
t3hwiz0rdvnc is a disease.04:49
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Vuenor your computer can remain locked while you use nx, and people at the local machine won't be able to log in or affect what you're doing04:49
Vuendude: i just gave you a link to installing nx04:49
dude_what if the program is in the program files directory04:49
Vuenhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX04:49
Vuenintelikey: nx is also much faster than vnc. it gives you near-local speed, even on slow connections04:50
dude_can some one guide me in installing freenx04:50
Zairedude: go into a command console and type sudo apt-get install <package>04:50
Vuenit's amazing and wonderful. lets me have my desktop anywhere04:50
Vuendude: i just gave you a link twice now. why are you still asking?04:50
Vuenhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX04:50
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Vuenintelikey: nx is graphical :)04:51
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intelikeyi'm not.04:51
Vuenit connects through ssh, so it's all encrypted04:51
Vuenfullscreen graphical environment04:51
Vuenliterally like you're sitting right in front of your computer04:51
intelikeyZaire hehhe you don't like ssh  :)04:51
=== Zaire no I love it lol
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intelikeyah04:52
=== Zaire cli is so much easier for running servers
Vuenwhat's with the /me?04:52
=== Zaire its fun lol
intelikeyguess your use of "the shiz" is strange to me.04:53
Zairelol04:53
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=== Zaire 35% complete in retrieve kubuntu-desktop lol
intelikeyZaire note.  there is no enflection in the voice in IRC04:54
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t3hwiz0rdis freeNX anymore secure than vnc by chance?04:54
dude_it is hard for me to follow instruction in linux, first time to use this OS04:54
Zairedunno04:55
Kyralt3hwiz0rd:  yes04:55
dude_:)04:55
intelikeyboth use ssh04:55
Dr_willisIt pays to read a few dozen beginners guides. :)04:55
Zaireso then not really any diff other then vnc is easier to grab04:55
dude_Dr_WIllis: hi04:55
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Vuent3hwiz0rd: it's basically the same, though it's easier to configure04:55
t3hwiz0rdoh... Hmmm04:55
Vuenvnc natively has no encryption, but you can set it up to tunnel through ssh04:55
t3hwiz0rdVuen: when you log in as a client does it take you to the log in screen?04:55
Vuenwhereas nx uses ssh natively04:55
Vuent3hwiz0rd: yep04:56
t3hwiz0rdVuen: let me check it out heh04:56
Vuenalso, guys, freeNX != NX04:56
VuenNX is a protocol for remote desktop04:56
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VuenfreeNX is an open source server/client package that uses it04:56
Zaireto me vnc is something I would only use local never outside line for that I would use ssh alone04:56
Vuena proprietary software that uses NX is called NoMachine NX04:56
duendeHelp: Does anyone know if Edgy has a text-mode installer?  And if so, how do I access it?04:56
dude_vuen: i should install the freenx server first04:56
crazykogahi hi04:56
Dr_willisduende,  the alternatve-installer cd is the text mode installer cd04:56
crazykogaso people what is this04:57
intelikeynx ?= native X04:57
duendeDr_willis, ahh shoot, thanks :)04:57
Vuenit's faster and more stable, and free beer, but proprietary04:57
Vuendude, no, you should not install freenx04:57
Dr_willisduende,  dont ask me why they couldent fit the text intaller on the live cd as well. :(04:57
crazykogahi people04:57
VuenZaire: you can tunnel vnc through ssh, so it's just as secure as ssh04:57
crazykogalol04:57
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Zairewell if you think about it how many ports do you want to open for possible attackers04:58
duendeDr_willis, yeah, that would be nice.  Even if you could just add "text" at the end of the kernel line or something :)04:58
Vuenduende: yes, you need the alternative cd04:58
t3hwiz0rdZaire: you should always simply change default ports.04:58
Dr_willisduende,  yea.. installers always need tweaking.. ubuntu's is useable.. but could use work.04:58
intelikeyDr_willis i mentioned that at a board meeting, they said maybe next release.04:58
t3hwiz0rdZaire: and turn out outside pings on your router.04:58
Zairetrue04:58
t3hwiz0rdZaire: right there you stop over 90% at the door, in my humble.04:58
VuenZaire: dude, you don't need to open your vnc port04:59
Dr_willisintelikey,  i also dont see the point in putting windows sofware on the live cd... perhaps a link/web page TO the stuff...04:59
Vuenyou SHOULDN'T open your vnc port04:59
Vuenyou have just ssh open04:59
Zairebut for http I keep the defaults and for ftp cause its easier04:59
duendeDr_willis, is there any minimalistic image so i don't have to re-download a full cd image?04:59
intelikeythat is.  a cli installer script on the live.04:59
t3hwiz0rdVuen: is that how it loads up? via the ssh port?04:59
Vuenand have vnc listen for connections ONLY from localhost04:59
Dr_willisduende,  never noticed. I just downlaoded the edgy beta last night. :)04:59
Vuenthen you connect through ssh and tunnel the vnc port04:59
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intelikeywindows software Dr_willis ?04:59
VuenVNC can be just as secure as SSH04:59
Vuenand just as secure as NX04:59
Zairewindows highly insecure for server apps04:59
Vueni don't use VNC because it's slow and it sucks05:00
Dr_willisintelikey,  look on the ubuntu/kubuntu? live cd.. they include several GPL windows packages , Abiword, and others...05:00
Vuenand it doesn't give me a new session05:00
intelikeyabiword was requested.  what others ?05:00
Vuent3hwiz0rd: yes, nx connects through the ssh port05:00
Vuenyou don't need to open any extra ports, and you don't need to run a separate ssh session05:00
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t3hwiz0rdVuen: hmm... But what about a stupid person on windows trying to connect in? would it be easy for them to do?05:01
Dr_willisintelikey,  not sure.. i dont feel they should be there. heh heh...  Thats what 'The Open CD' is for.. but now THATS became a live cd as well last i looked.05:01
intelikeythere were several requests for abiword   but i don't know why they have both abi and oo05:01
Lunar_Raven!bittornado05:02
ubotubittornado: bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.13-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 151 kB, installed size 848 kB05:02
intelikeyone or the other but both ?05:02
Dr_willisHeck - i dont even want OO on the normal install. :)05:02
_rockstarHm, just installed the Edgy 64 bit version, and KDM doesn't want to let me into KDE...  Just a blank screen and back to login.  Any ideas?05:02
intelikeyyeah that's my point.05:02
Dr_willisbut that aint going to happen. :)05:02
Vuent3hwiz0rd: sure it would. the nomachine client is cross-platform05:02
Vuenand you don't need an ssh client05:02
Vuenjust the nx client05:02
t3hwiz0rdVuen: ah okay... i installed it, but i can't find it lol05:02
Vuenwhat did you install?05:02
t3hwiz0rdVuen: freenx05:03
intelikey:)05:03
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Vuenon your linux box?05:03
t3hwiz0rdVuen: yuppers05:03
Vuenyeah, uninstall that05:03
t3hwiz0rdVuen: ..why?05:03
t3hwiz0rdVuen: i am trying to get it served from here.05:03
Vuenread this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX05:03
intelikeycause he don't like it05:04
Vueninstall nomachine nx instead of freenx05:04
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t3hwiz0rdokay05:05
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t3hwiz0rdVuen: the intstructions make bad sense to me though lol05:05
VuenThe following instructions will install the free version of NX server from Nomachine. We do NOT recommend attempting to use FreeNX (open source) server at this time, because of the difficulty many users have had in getting it to work. Should it become easier to install FreeNX and to get it working reliably, we may modify these instructions accordingly.05:06
drizhey guys i'm trying to install a tar.gz file ./configure doesn't work neither does make05:06
driz>?05:06
BlackenI can't remember offhand, but is there a CLI utility that will autodetect operating systems on partitions and rewrite boot.lst?05:06
drizhelp05:06
BlackenSimilar to the Debian/Ubuntu installer's little trick.05:06
t3hwiz0rdVuen: what does it mean in the "download these files from" part05:06
Vuenit means exactly what it says05:07
Vuenclick the links, download the files05:07
intelikeyhey.  i have a strange question.  (most of mine are)  if i have one account with no passwd, is there any way to use that account over ssh ?05:07
Dr_willisdriz,  install the build-essential package for a start05:07
intelikeyand nosuid that ^05:08
Blackenintelikey: I believe it will fail out, but a blank password may work.05:08
Vuenintelikey: yeah, you can tell ssh what accounts you want to use or not use, but that's almost certainly a bad idea05:08
Dr_willisya could set up the ssh to use the keys stuff couldent ya.05:08
t3hwiz0rdVuen: ahh oaky i get it now.05:08
Vuenssh without a password = bad05:08
drizok, how?05:08
t3hwiz0rdVuen: oops i closed the window05:08
intelikeyVuen i have lot's of "bad ideas"   :)05:08
Vuendriz: a tar.gz file is just an archive05:08
Vuentype tar -xvsf <filename>05:08
crazykogaho05:09
crazykogahi05:09
driztar: Error exit delayed from previous errors05:09
intelikeyVuen and yes. i would use a kernel that can handel security breaches if i was going to do that.05:09
Dr_willisdriz,  what are you trying to isntall anyway?05:10
t3hwiz0rdVuen:   Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.05:10
intelikeydriz that's too late.  look above it to the error that caused that.05:10
Vuent3hwiz0rd: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.205:10
drizDr_willis: firefox rc205:10
Vuendo that until you have all the dependencies05:11
Dr_willisdriz you are planing on compiling firefox?05:11
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t3hwiz0rdVuen: i got it05:11
Dr_willisand you dont even know how to uncompress a tar archive.. Ick. :)05:11
t3hwiz0rdokay its almost installed.05:12
drizintelikey:   tar: This does not look like a tar archive05:12
t3hwiz0rdVuen: cool05:12
drizDr_willis: ...05:12
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Dr_willisdont sound like you downloaded the right file.. or its a bad download05:12
Vuent3hwiz0rd: once you finish the walkthrough, run the nx client, and try connecting to localhost 2205:13
crazykogahi people05:13
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Vuenset it to fullscreen for great effect05:13
t3hwiz0rdVuen: okay, i hope theres an nx client for os x lol05:13
Vuenonce it works, try it on a friend's computer05:13
Vuenyes, there is05:13
drizi know i downloaded the right from their websites05:13
Vuent3hwiz0rd: http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-macosx.php05:13
intelikeydriz then it may be incomplete.  or an executable wrapped around an archive....05:13
Vuent3hwiz0rd: if you have a dynamic dns, you'll need to set up a static hostname05:14
SmotangHello World! This is my first Time on IRC and I just installed Ubuntu!05:14
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Vuenuse dyndns.org and ddclient05:14
=== Zaire lol
t3hwiz0rdVuen: how do you stop and restart it?05:14
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SmotangSo is this a general chat or a help channel?05:14
Vuent3hwiz0rd: stop and restart what?05:15
t3hwiz0rdVuen: nx05:15
drizintelikey: oh no it's fine i'm sure05:15
VuenSmotang: it's a general kubuntu chat or a help channel :)05:15
Dr_willisdriz,  if you really MUST try the firefox2 alpha stuff - you may want to check out   http://klik.atekon.de/  - and install it using the klik system.. at least that way it shouldent screw up much :P you can install it just for a single user.05:15
Smotangvuen: thanks05:15
=== Zaire its kubuntu help but can also be applied to ubuntu
SmotangWhat program in Ubuntu would be used to play MP3's?05:15
intelikeydriz tar is not bad to error out on a real/complete tar archive....05:15
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Vuent3hwiz0rd: sudo /etc/init.d/nxserver restart05:15
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intelikeydriz what's the command you ran ?05:16
Vuenbut you'll also need to restart ssh once you configure it to use the nx keys file05:16
rawrnesswill not amaorak work in gnome?05:16
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=== Zaire use sudo apt-get install xmms in a command windo
Vuenrawrness: amarok will work in gnome05:16
rawrnessthen amaroak05:16
Vuenrawrness: it will be a bit slower because it will use kde libs, but it will work great05:16
rawrnessamorak owns05:16
rawrness*dances about like a idot*05:16
=== Zaire I use xmms for mp3's cause its more like winamp
VuenSmotang: any media player in ubuntu will play mp3s. what you need is the codecs.05:17
SmotangAh i see!05:17
Vuen!codecs > Smotang05:17
Zaireyou don't require codecs for xmms to play them05:17
Dr_willisThe Kubuntu FAQ has some info on what packages to isntall for mp3 playback05:17
t3hwiz0rdVuen: ahh how nice! it works05:17
cpk2Smotang: since you are using kubuntu you should be able to get media working in just one step!05:17
t3hwiz0rdVuen: and this is 100% encrypted as ssh right?05:17
drizintelikey: i did cd Desktop/firefox then "./configure"--> did not work then tried  "make" did not work05:17
Dr_willisdriz,  have you installed  the 'build-essential' package yet?05:18
SmotangVuen: im using gaim to talk at the moment? Did you send me the codecs then? I just heard the "noise".05:18
Vueni didn't send you any codecs05:18
drizDr_willis: i just did05:18
Vueni just told the bot to message you about codecs05:18
Vuen!codecs05:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:18
drizDr_willis: still nothing05:18
Smotangah thank05:18
Smotangthanks05:19
Dr_willisi dident think the codec pages mention the mp3 stuff05:19
Dr_willis!mp305:19
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t3hwiz0rdVuen: my users and groups management doesn't work :-(05:19
Dr_willisdriz,  you need to give us a LITTLE more info then 'nothing'05:19
Ashex!samba05:19
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:19
Zaireit does jjust takes some readin lol05:19
Vuen!mp305:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:19
t3hwiz0rdVuen: there was a user created called nx, should I delete this?05:19
VuenSmotang: visit the restricted formats link. it will explain how to install it.05:19
Vuent3hwiz0rd: NO05:19
Vuenoops caps lock05:19
t3hwiz0rdVuen: okay okay... lol calm down05:19
Vuen:/05:19
Vuensorry, caps05:19
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Vuenanyway, no. the nx user runs the nxserver05:20
intelikeydriz what has that got to do with "<driz> intelikey:   tar: This does not look like a tar archive"   i guess you got past that error.................05:20
Vuenit's a separate user from your normal user so that it doesn't have your priveledges, but it also doesn't have root05:20
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drizdriz@enErgy:~/Desktop/firefox$ sudo make05:20
drizmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.05:20
SmotangHow do i Check what version of Ubuntu I am running?05:21
t3hwiz0rdVuen: so is there a way to enable/disable nx? or is it really not a security threat?05:21
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drizbash: ./configure: No such file or directory05:21
VuenSmotang: what is it called? breezy = 5.04, dapper = 6.06, edgy = 6.1005:21
intelikeydon't sudo make..... run make as user.   but i'm still wondering about the archive error.....05:21
VuenSmotang: the version numbers don't really mean anything, they're just the release dates. 6.06 = june 200605:21
SmotangOh!05:21
Smotangthanks!05:22
VuenSmotang: you're probably running dapper drake, which is 6.0605:22
intelikeySmotang lsb_release -a05:22
Vuenintelikey: ah that works :)05:22
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t3hwiz0rdVuen: is there a way to disable the server?05:23
t3hwiz0rdVuen: like enable-disable nxserver?05:23
Vuent3hwiz0rd: um, you can stop it, just sudo /etc/init.d/nxserver stop05:23
Vuento disable it permanently, i don't know05:23
drizintelikey: tar -xvsf '/home/driz/Desktop/firefox-2.0rc3.tar.gz'    this just ran and i guess worked05:23
Vuenwhy would you want to disable it, anyway?05:23
Dr_willisi always forget the command to remove a service.05:23
Vuenthere's no reason not to just leave it running permanently05:23
t3hwiz0rdVuen: if i don't want people accessing it.05:23
intelikeyVuen man update-rc.d05:24
t3hwiz0rdVuen: but if its encrypted yeah i guess thats true... I just don't want people logging in and hording resources.05:24
Vuent3hwiz0rd: people won't be able to access it if you put a password on it. anyway it all runs through ssh05:24
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Dr_willis' update-rc.d '  now theres an oddly named command. :)   descriptive i guess..05:24
Vuenbest to just put a strong password on it (>=8 chars, at least one uppercase character, at least one number, at least one symbol)05:25
Vuenand leave it running permanently05:25
thompaanyone running edgy and kdm having a problem loading kde?05:25
Vuenyou'll never know when you'll be away from your computer and wanting to log in05:25
t3hwiz0rdVuen: do that to the nx account?05:25
intelikeyDr_willis *buntu has  update-<every #^^%$# thing>05:25
Vuenno05:25
thompagdm gets me to kubuntu fine btw05:25
Vuendon't change the nx account05:25
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t3hwiz0rdVuen: okay. My passwrods are already strong.05:25
Vuenthen you're all set05:26
SmotangOk the media Player that i have is called totem? is that what you were asking about?05:26
Zairehey cpk2 is it alright if I pm you?05:26
intelikeyDr_willis and they're all scripts... heh05:26
Dr_willisintelikey,  we need more scripts captian!05:27
VuenSmotang: if you're using totem, then you're on gnome... what brings you to #kubuntu?05:27
Dr_willisWhat no 'service' command? !05:27
intelikeyit the rc.d05:27
thompakubuntu edgy is the best ive ever run so fat05:27
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SmotangOh my bad! im on the wrong IRC channel. Sorry I am very new.05:28
drizintelikey: i dont think the command work it just listed the files, to extract them i think05:28
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intelikeydriz no the -x means extract.05:29
ZaireI almost have phpbb2 installed Im just having trouble pointing the install to a db05:29
intelikeydriz where ever you ran in look for the new dir named simular to the tarball name.05:29
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Zairewhats a standard prefix for a phpbb2_ table?05:30
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t3hwiz0rdVuen: this is pretty neet05:31
drizintelikey: the folder is called firefox and i'm in the directory right now05:31
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intelikeydriz look for files with all caps names.   README INSTALL  and such like.   read them.05:32
drizok05:32
intelikeyls | grep -e "[A-Z] "05:33
Dr_willisWell i was going to suggest trying out the Firefox Beta on the Klik site.. but i cant get their stuff working now... silly site.05:33
Vuent3hwiz0rd: yep. tried it on a remote computer yet?05:33
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Vuent3hwiz0rd: walk over to a friend's house and try it out. set it fullscreen for great effect.05:33
intelikeysilly site.  what'a sight.05:33
Dr_willishttp://klik.atekon.de/05:34
conejo_didohi to everyone05:34
t3hwiz0rdVuen: it seems like i runs almost as good as M$ RDP05:34
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conejo_didoI want to update kaffeine but anyone knows where I could find a binary package_05:34
t3hwiz0rdVuen: it*05:35
conejo_dido?05:35
t3hwiz0rdVuen: sorry for using a bad word lol05:35
intelikeyssh "Protocol 2"  isn't that slightly slower than "Protocol 1"  ?05:35
Vuenmmm, i don't know about rdp05:35
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drizintelikey: provides no help neither does th site05:36
t3hwiz0rdVuen: rdp is something M$ did nicely actually, i have to give it to them.05:37
intelikeyVuen what do you mean "set it fullscreen"  ?05:37
Vuenintelikey: you can make the nx client run fullscreen05:37
Vuenso it looks like you're sitting right at the desktop05:37
Vuenjust remember that the "magic pixel" is in the top right corner of the screen05:38
intelikeyVuen you mean as in,  'in a gui' ?05:38
Vuen?05:38
intelikeyVuen can't you use that from console ?05:38
Zairecana anyone tell me what this means05:38
ZaireAn error has occurred during installation05:38
ZaireThe PHP configuration on your server doesn't support the database type that you chose05:38
Vuenuse what from console? nx?05:39
intelikeyyeah05:39
Vueni don't think you understand what nx is.05:39
drizlater man going to oh well05:39
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intelikeyVuen i must not.05:39
Vuennx is a remote desktop protocol05:39
Vuenit's for connecting to your desktop remotely05:39
intelikeyyeah so can't you run it in a console ?05:39
Vuenas in, graphical05:39
Vuenyou can run the program from a console, sure05:39
Vuenbut it runs in x...05:39
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intelikeyso it requires X ?05:40
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: it is a little faster than X forwarding on ssh if you need a program that only runs in gui05:40
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intelikeyi see.05:40
Vuenhmm05:43
Vuenintelikey: perhaps some screenshots would help explain: http://www.nomachine.com/screenshot/windows-client.php05:43
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intelikeyso basicly the only real use for that would be either  1. eye candy.   or 2. to remotely run an Xapp on a remote boxen.05:43
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Vueneye candy?05:43
Vuendude.05:44
Vueni don't even know what to say.05:44
Vuenyou can't do everything inside a freaking console05:44
Vuencan you use gimp in a console? can you browse graphically in a console?05:44
intelikeywhat can i don't do ?05:44
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intelikeycan you browse graphically in a console?   do it all the time05:44
Vuencan you do serious web development in a console?05:44
Vuencan you test and debug graphical software in a console?05:44
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Vuenthere's more to using a computer than a freaking command line, they invented a mouse for a reason!05:45
Dr_willisBlasphmy!05:45
Dr_willis:)05:45
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Vueni mean, seriously05:46
Vuenuse word. in a console. do it.05:46
intelikeyDr_willis agreed.     should we stone him now or wait till we have witnesses ?05:46
Vuenlet's see it.05:46
Vueni want you to write an academic paper and print it out in a console.05:46
Dr_willisI use TeX in the console.. and had better looking papers then the guys using word.05:46
VuenDr_willis: i use tex in a console too, i use vi05:46
Dr_willisVuen,  TeX, nroff, easially do that. :)05:46
Vuenbut you need a graphical environment to see the output!05:46
Dr_willisIve helped many professors use tex for their  books.05:47
intelikeyheh 'word'  hehhe05:47
Dr_willisintelikey,  :) we had a 'mac lab' :)05:47
Vuen*sigh* word was just an example of a typesetting program everyone knows about05:47
Vuenyou can't seriously expect to write a document in a console without at some point looking at the output05:47
Dr_willisI rember upgrading from using nroff, to TeX and LaTeX05:47
Vuenyou need to LOOK at the document at SOME POINT05:47
Vuenunless you want to keep printing it every time you want to see it05:48
intelikeyVuen looking at the output is not a problem tho...05:48
Dr_willisVuen,  we had  preview programs that could render the TeX output on the serial terminals.. some how. :P05:48
Dr_willisit was a textronics  thang I guess.,05:48
Dr_willisNOW you make me feel old.05:48
intelikeyDr_willis you are old.   you old coot05:48
Vueni give up. i feel like i'm arguing with my grandfather, and he's explaining to me in painful detail why indoor plumbing is unnecessary and wasteful05:48
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intelikey:)05:49
VuenEMBRACE TECHNOLOGY05:49
VuenGAH05:49
intelikeyVuen for what ?05:49
intelikeygui's are over rated.05:49
Vuenyep. overrated. just like indoor plumbing.05:50
Vueni could just as easily take a bucket outside and fill 'er up at the ol' well05:50
intelikeyapples and bananas05:50
Dr_willisITs not Rocket Surgery!05:50
Dr_willis:)05:50
Jucatoor just wait for the rain to come down :)05:50
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intelikeyprezactly05:50
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JucatoHobbsee!! :)05:50
Dr_willisPrinting the docs was exactly what we did ages ago to see what the thing looked like.05:51
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Vuenyes, but that's not necessary anymore!05:51
Vuenin a graphical environment you can see the output INSTANTLY!05:51
Dr_willisof coruse TeX is such a kicking system.. it was rarely needed then.05:51
intelikeyDr_willis yeah05:51
VuenINSTANTLY! this is why we have high resolution monitors! high color depth!05:51
Dr_willisI even helped teach a class on TeX05:52
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intelikeyVuen yep.   eye candy.05:52
Hobbseehey Jucato05:52
Vuen*sigh*05:52
intelikeyfigured.05:52
rawrnessthanks btw for your help intelikey and dr05:52
rawrnessyesterday05:52
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Vuenwell anyway, i have a meeting, a midterm, and an assignment due tomorrow05:52
Vuenand it's midnight05:52
Vueni better get some work done :(05:52
rawrnessi ended up just reinstalling off the alternet cd though05:52
intelikeyrawrness any time.05:52
Vuenaurevoir05:53
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rawrnessnetherless thanks05:53
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: now lets face reality and accept the gui eh? honestly... you're not proving much to anyone by being a "Rebel" of the system.05:53
rawrnessBut i do wonder why did the live cd not work while the alternet did ......05:53
t3hwiz0rdthe gui came to exist from the best hackers in the world, why not embrace their work?05:53
intelikeyrawrness sorry i couldn't help more,  but i waiting for indoor plumming you know....05:53
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rawrnessFun.05:53
intelikey:)05:54
t3hwiz0rdrawrness: some of the isos available at kubuntu.org seem to be... well... no good... lol05:54
rawrnessfunny story though i ended up deleting the linux partion some how05:54
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rawrnessand completly screwed everything up05:54
intelikeyt3hwiz0rd you too ?05:54
Frederickfolks how do I turn of the auto adjust of the clock for summer time?05:54
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rawrnessfunnyer the live cd was not a iso05:54
rawrnessit came right from canoical05:55
rawrnessand its nice and bluish05:55
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: i use a mixture of the two, but im not a zealot. I've embraced the changes that came to computing.05:55
intelikeyt3hwiz0rd  being a rebel ?       lol05:55
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: are you in CLI right now?05:56
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: are you running entirely headless?05:56
intelikeyt3hwiz0rd yeah05:56
intelikeyheadless no.05:56
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: do you ever touch a gui app?05:56
intelikeyever yeah05:56
intelikeyso what's the point ?05:56
t3hwiz0rdi never got the zealotist ideology is all... it just seems so stupid05:57
t3hwiz0rdthe "fuck the gui" mentality... but then again i guess if there weren't people to hate stupid things the rest of us wouldn't have people to snicker and make rude comments about lol05:57
intelikeyso tell the zealott   !    and leave me alone05:57
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t3hwiz0rdintelikey: sometimes you give the vibe that you may be zealot though.05:57
osiris!language t3hwiz0rd05:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about language t3hwiz0rd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:58
intelikeyi don't give "vibe"'s   dude.05:58
osirisgrr.  watch the language t3hwiz0rd05:58
intelikeyyou must have someone else in mind05:58
Jucatointelikey is no zealot. he's a fanatic :P05:58
rawrnesswhats xgl and compiz?05:59
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: you do seem zealotish sometimes, it doesn't bother me because I mix cli and gui into a nice setup... But some people I could see getting mad at you :-P05:59
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: just expressing an opinion, not personal dislike.05:59
intelikeyJucato :)05:59
Dr_willisrawrness,  a new way to get eye candy for the desktop05:59
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rawrnessI see05:59
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: you've been helpful and for that I do appreciate you being around.05:59
Dr_willisrawrness,  give it a few months and you will be seeing it. :P05:59
rawrnessis it good?05:59
Dr_willisrawrness,  i consider it annoying eye candy..05:59
rawrnessodywells06:00
whysoxgl and compics are a 3d windows manager06:00
rawrnessI see06:00
t3hwiz0rdrawrness: its pretty much a beta gui that will eat your linux install sooner or later.06:00
rawrnessgood th ing it didn't work06:00
Dr_willisuse it to impress your fiends.. then disable to do real work. :)06:00
intelikeyt3hwiz0rd one thing i am not. 'political'  i could hardly care less who thinks what of me....06:00
rawrnessXD06:00
Dr_willisand go back to the console06:00
whysotoo bad xgl compics isnt on live CD, would be good one for that06:01
ShillelaghLawgrub ate my WinXP install last week  x.X06:01
t3hwiz0rdShillelaghLaw: it didn't eat it... it simply lost the path to it.06:01
dude_Dr._Willis: is it safe to install beryl?06:01
Dr_willisShillelaghLaw,  Hmm.. normally its a XP eats my grub thing...06:01
ShillelaghLawlol...  more or less06:01
Dr_willisdude_,  i wouldent touch it.06:01
t3hwiz0rdrebuilding grub is easy.06:01
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dude_Dr._Willis: why?06:01
ShillelaghLawI wouldn't really care, but I miss Battlefield Vietnam  =P06:02
whysodamn, just installed kubuntu, but when i try to mount my 2nd hard drive it jsut say "unknown error has occured"06:02
Dr_willisfind a live cd that has the stuff onit.. to play with..  then enjoy it.. then reboot to get work done. :)06:02
t3hwiz0rdDr_willis: i should slap you for using the dreaded R-word infront of me :-P06:02
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intelikeyt3hwiz0rd  did you by chance read what brought on all the  cli/gui dialog ?06:03
ShillelaghLawis there a good article on how to rebuild grub anywhere?06:03
Frederickfolks how do I turn off the auto adjust of the clock for summer time?06:03
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: breifly I had an angry GF breathing down my neck about how i pay more attention to the computer than her.06:03
whysoi have no clue how to get it to work :( just partitioned it with qtpart and STILL wont mount it06:03
ShillelaghLawbecause I tried changing the menus.list file, and it didn't really help06:03
intelikeyt3hwiz0rd  just wondering.06:04
t3hwiz0rdintelikey: i had a few words for Vuen_away too but hes away lol06:04
ShillelaghLawerr, menu.list...  and there was some other file someone told me to change stuff in06:04
ShillelaghLawthat one didn't help either06:04
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t3hwiz0rdI sat back down right as he logged.06:04
whysoLOL wizord i get that all the time06:05
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intelikeyShillelaghLaw  /boot/grub/menu.lst06:05
whysoanyone have a clue how i can get my 2nd HD to mount?06:05
Dr_williswhyso,  learn how to mount them.. edit the fstab.06:05
Dr_williswhyso,  what kind of partitons are on the hd?06:05
intelikeywhyso add entries to /etc/fstab06:05
whysoext306:06
whysothanks06:06
Dr_willismounting of drives is a Linux 101 Week 1 sort of thing. :)06:07
intelikeywhyso  mount && sudo fdisk -l        will both yeld information appropose06:07
Dr_willisheh heh.06:07
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Dr_willisThe College of Whats-Matta-Tux06:07
intelikeyDr_willis not anymore.06:08
FrederickJDStone: /join ##nonlogic06:08
ShillelaghLawI know- I worked with the menu.lst file.  I didn't have any luck with it.  could it be something else?  it says something about not recognizing the partition type.06:08
whysohehe thanks (yes i am new)06:08
Dr_willisShillelaghLaw,  its possible its confused abouyt what drives are where.06:08
intelikeyDr_willis anymore you learn how to use gaim and amsn and limewire    but know nothing about the system.   it seems so M$ like.06:09
ShillelaghLawthat's true- I never thought about that.06:09
Dr_willisintelikey,  you just lost 100 geek points!06:09
Dr_willis:P06:09
ShillelaghLawI tried reinstalling Kubuntu to see if it would reinstall/configure grub for me, but it didn't.  I'll go look up some more about configuring grub.06:09
ShillelaghLawthank you06:09
intelikeylol06:09
Dr_willisShillelaghLaw,  now thats odd... how is your system laid out?06:09
flaccid_ShillelaghLaw: there is a command to reconfigure grub, that what you looking for?06:09
ShillelaghLawyes, actually06:10
ShillelaghLawthat would really help06:10
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Dr_willisShillelaghLaw,   a reinstall SHOULD of fixed it.. whats a command going to do that the installer dident. :)06:10
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Dr_willisLogical thinking here. :)06:10
digivoreis 'sudo' just an ubuntu thing?06:10
ShillelaghLawtrue  x.X06:10
whysowhat do i do after mount && sudo fdisk -l06:10
Dr_willisShillelaghLaw,  you may want to check out the   /boot/grub/device.map06:10
intelikeydigivore no06:10
ShillelaghLawok, thanks06:11
ShillelaghLawI'll check that now06:11
intelikeydigivore but ubuntu over uses it.06:11
flaccid_ShillelaghLaw: sudo update-grub06:11
Dr_willisShillelaghLaw,  its possible the grub menu.lst is thinking the drives are in a different spot then what they are shown there.06:11
Zairek anyone know where the php config file would be?06:11
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flaccid_should never have to reinstall the os..06:11
Dr_williswhyso,   read the man pages for mount, is a start. fdisk -l shows what drives are on what  locations06:11
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intelikeyZaire did you look in /etc06:11
whysook, thanks06:11
Zaireyea I can't see it06:12
digivoreintelikey, i am running kubuntu, but just installed e17,  however seems that e17 doesn't automatically run ' sudo' when opening some items on my start menu06:12
Dr_williswhyso, check the fstab for examples06:12
Hawkwinddigivore: It's not supposed to06:12
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ZaireIm trying to get it to work with mysql-server so as to install phpbb206:12
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flaccid_Zaire: whats the problem. php in configured with php.ini06:13
dhqhow do i run javavm06:13
flaccid_dhq: the java command06:13
mattikHello. How do I change to copy mode in text mode?06:13
Zaire?06:13
intelikeydigivore e17 is not a ubuntu package is it ?    it won't be configured for the special use of the root jr. account  aka sudo    you will need to edit the menu manually i guess.06:13
dhqflaccid_: howz that06:13
flaccid_dhq: you run the command java06:14
flaccid_to run a java application?06:14
digivoreHawkwind, when i use KDE and i try to open my wireless assistant, it worked like normal, but when i do it in e17 it tells me i "dont' have permissions - did you use sudo first"06:14
ZaireIm trying to install a phpbb2 forum but its not recognizing the mysql database06:14
BonBonTheJonZaire: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini06:14
Hawkwinddigivore: That's KDE.  E17 is *not* a desktop environment like KDE.  In fact, it's far from it06:14
digivoreok, so i will have to type in sudo before the items on the menu editor06:14
flaccid_Zaire: what is the error?06:15
mattikHello. How do I change to copy mode in text mode? I want to paste my Xorg.log to pastebin. I cannot start X in DApper.06:15
dhqflaccid_:dhq@dhq-laptop:~$ java Usage: gij [OPTION]  ... CLASS [ARGS]  ...          to invoke CLASS.main, or       gij -jar [OPTION]  ... JARFILE [ARGS]  ...          to execute a jar fileTry `gij --help' for more information.06:15
ShillelaghLawthanks guys- I'm going to go and give it another try06:15
Hawkwinddigivore: How did you install E17 btw ?06:15
flaccid_dhq: that is correct06:15
ZaireAn error has occurred during installation06:15
ZaireThe PHP configuration on your server doesn't support the database type that you chose06:15
flaccid_Zaire: what database type did you select?06:16
ZaireI chose mysql-4/506:16
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dhqflaccid_: so how do i run the virtual machine06:16
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flaccid_Zaire: that is the server version not database type.06:16
crazykogahi people06:16
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flaccid_dhq: i have already told you. the java command. what are you trying to run?06:16
crazykogahows it going!!06:16
digivoreHawkwind, from a cvs....  took me 2 weeks to figure it out!  just got it going.06:16
crazykogacan someone tell me what is this?06:17
Zaireaccording to the install page its the DB type06:17
crazykogawell06:17
crazykogaT_T06:17
crazykoganigth everyone06:17
flaccid_Zaire: what mysql servers are supported by the application?06:17
BonBonTheJoncrazykoga: what is your question06:17
dhqflaccid_: well i downloaded jalbum.bin which requires thejava vm to be running06:18
crazykogadont worry im going to bed thanks lol06:18
crazykoganight06:18
Zairemysql 4 to mysql 506:18
whysowhyso06:18
ZaireI have mysql-server 5.0.2106:18
whysosry typo06:18
Hawkwinddigivore: LOL.  You do know there are scripts out there that will do it all for you ?06:18
flaccid_Zaire: this is phpbb?06:18
Zairephpbb2 yep06:18
Hawkwinddigivore: Plus I have both Dapper and Edgy deb repos for *Ubuntu of E1706:18
flaccid_dhq: what type of file is jalbum.bin meant to be?06:18
flaccid_Zaire: how did you install phpbb?06:19
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ZaireI haven't thats what Im trying to do06:19
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dhqflaccid_: http://jalbum.net/06:19
larson9999is it just my or is ff r2 a lot faster?06:19
Hawkwindlarson9999: It's faster, but swiftfox is even faster than firefox :)06:20
flaccid_Zaire: ask in #phpbb or read phpbb's documentation.06:20
BonBonTheJonHawkwind: how do you install swiftfox06:20
digivoreHawkwind,  Yah i used a script, but first i tried to get it through synaptic and that didn't work at all!  but found a good script06:20
larson9999Hawkwind: swiftfox?  i can't keep up with all the browsers06:20
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HawkwindBonBonTheJon: http://getswiftfox.com06:20
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larson9999oh, it's a version of ff06:21
flaccid_Zaire: are you installing the package ie. sudo apt-get install phpbb2 ?06:21
ZaireI have asked and they can't seem to help me other then sayin change this line in the ini and the line doesn exist cause it points to a dll this is a linux server06:21
Hawkwindlarson9999: It's based on firefox code, but it's optimized.  It uses all your firefox settings.  But it's tons quicker, takes up less memory, and doesn't leak as bad06:21
digivoreHawkwind, repos for *ubuntu of e17?   what do you mean06:21
Hawkwindlarson9999: No it's not a *version of ff* at all06:21
Zaireno the apt method failed worse06:21
dhqflaccid_: any idea06:21
Hawkwinddigivore: I have built deb packages for *Ubuntu of E17 for both Dapper and Edgy06:21
flaccid_dhq: i'm looking06:21
BonBonTheJonHawkwind: how do i find which processor build to use06:21
HawkwindBonBonTheJon: What type of computer do you have06:22
HawkwindBonBonTheJon: You hopefully know the specs of your system06:22
digivoreHawkwind,  really?  meaning this could have been alot easier?  how do you install deb packages anyways?06:22
larson9999Hawkwind: in my imprecise use of english i call things based of other projects code, versions.  but i get the point.06:22
flaccid_Zaire: perhaps you have not installed the package php5-mysql06:22
BonBonTheJonHawkwind: laptop with intel celeron, but i dont know which type06:22
Zaire-_- now someone tells me06:22
HawkwindBonBonTheJon: Intel Celeron what ?06:22
flaccid_Zaire: ?06:22
HawkwindBonBonTheJon: cat /proc/cpuinfo might shed some light06:22
Hawkwinddigivore: Now that you have it installed it from CVS no need to worry about the deb packages.  You're good to go06:23
Zaireno I didn't have that06:23
digivorecan you upgrade from edgy do dapper?  i have dapper but i'm just curious why someone would continue to work with an older version...06:23
flaccid_dhq: did you read the instructions on http://jalbum.net/download3.jsp ?06:23
flaccid_Zaire: php doesn't have mysql support by default in versions 5 and above06:24
Dr_willisdigivore,  dapper is the long term support/stable line.06:24
Dr_willisdigivore,  why upgrade if everything works. :P06:24
Hawkwinddigivore: Edgy is the next release of Ubuntu.  You are probably using Dapper now.  Edgy will be released on the 26th of this month06:24
flaccid_dhq: the .bin is a binary. you run that with .sh as per the instructions to install. you should always read the documentation :)06:24
larson9999Hawkwind: if it's much faster, i'll get dizzy06:24
intelikeylsb_release -a06:24
digivoreohhh   i see   i thought edgy was an older version06:25
intelikeydigivore  lsb_release -a06:25
dhqflaccid_: i did that still i get no vm found06:25
dude_moma: you there?06:25
larson9999the new release should be soon, right?06:25
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flaccid_dhq: what says no vm found?06:25
intelikeylarson9999 the 26th06:25
dhqyes06:25
flaccid_dhq: what tells you that??06:26
digivoreHawkwind,  are you pretty familiar with e17 ?06:26
Hawkwinddigivore: Slightly.  It's all I run and have run it for over a year now.06:26
larson9999i doubt it, hawkwind never talks about e1706:26
larson9999:)06:26
dhqflaccid_:dhq@dhq-laptop:~$   sh ./JAlbuminstall.bin Preparing to install... Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive..Configuring the installer for this system's environment...No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATHenvironment variable.  You must install a VM prior torunning this program.06:26
Hawkwinddigivore: I do a lot of testing for the devs06:26
intelikeylarson9999 lol06:27
intelikeyhmmm now Hawkwind is a zealott06:27
intelikey:)06:27
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flaccid_dhq: the java binary path needs to be added to an enviro variable06:27
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fooDo you guys think XGL will be gone in a year or two?06:27
Hawkwindintelikey: Far from it06:27
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Hawkwindfoo: It's already been replaced.  Read the internet06:27
Genix|linuxhow do i open up a .exe using wine?06:28
intelikeyHawkwind it was a referance to eariler chatter06:28
Genix|linuxi already installed it06:28
digivoreHawkwind, nice, i'll probably have a few questions about it shortly...06:28
dhqflaccid_: how do i do that06:28
Genix|linuxah intelikey you are still here06:28
Hawkwinddigivore: #E is the place to ask them since you're there :P06:28
fooHawkwind: HAHA. You win.06:28
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flaccid_dhq: which environment varable does the documentation say?06:28
Genix|linuxintelikey: i got wine installed but i don't know how to open up an .exe in it06:28
dhqflaccid_: that i dunno it just says javavm06:29
intelikeyGenix|linux  wine /path/to/file.exe06:29
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Genix|linuxsweet thanks06:29
flaccid_dhq: we will have to guess06:29
dhqflaccid_: ok06:29
dhqflaccid_: so how i start06:30
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Dr_willisKernelTrap is reporting that the security research firm Rapid7 has published a working root exploit for a buffer overflow in NVIDIA's binary blob graphics driver for Linux.06:30
flaccid_dhq: oh it says PATH environment variable06:30
Dr_willishttp://kerneltrap.org/node/722806:31
dhqk06:31
intelikeyDr_willis cool....06:31
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Dr_willisintelikey,  :P interesting at least06:31
Dr_williswonder how it does it!06:31
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Genix|linuxintelikey: i have to do that in that wine command in chroot i assume?06:33
larson9999Hawkwind: i can't really tell a difference in speed but i'll take your word on the leaking and stuff and use it instead for a while to see if i have issues.  do you know if the build on oct 15 was on rc3?06:33
dude_how do i install freenx?06:33
flaccid_dhq: what version of java is installed and what is the path to the jvm, eg /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.0606:33
flaccid_!freenx06:33
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX06:34
Hawkwindlarson9999: You gotta be kidding me ?  Start time is 1/4 of what firefox is.06:34
intelikeyGenix|linux yeah or prepend the chroot command06:34
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dude_how do i install frostwire, my mistake06:34
flaccid_!frostwire06:34
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:34
t3hwiz0rdew06:34
t3hwiz0rdEW!06:34
intelikeyGenix|linux it's easiest to do a chroot /address/    then use that shell imo06:34
t3hwiz0rdwho uses limewire? or that entire network anymore?06:34
Genix|linuxok thanks i'll try that06:34
t3hwiz0rdcan you even find a song that isn't all jacked up on it?06:34
flaccid_you mean gnutella, t3hwiz0rd06:34
t3hwiz0rdyup06:35
flaccid_i do06:35
t3hwiz0rdwhy? theres nothing even good on it anymore06:35
dhqflaccid_: i am done i just done and chose my location sudo update-alternatives --config java06:35
flaccid_works for me06:35
mattikHow do I copy text to pastebin in text mode?06:35
t3hwiz0rdmaybe im just spoiled by konwing some of the best private torrent networks but meh.06:35
Dr_willislimewire is one of many gnutella clients..  I use it all the time.06:35
flaccid_dhq: i don't know what ur talking about06:35
dhqflaccid_: thankx for you help06:35
t3hwiz0rdI don't see the point of it. The entire network R-belong-to-iraa.06:35
Dr_willisactually  i use frostwire06:35
larson9999hawkwind i wasn't paying attention to the startup.  just did a little test.  4 count to start ff and 2 count to start swiftfox06:35
flaccid_dhq: read the documentation next time06:36
Dr_willist3hwiz0rd,  whatever...06:36
dhqflaccid_: run the command yoou can choose where your vm is06:36
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Eddyhi06:36
flaccid_dhq: yes, but problems exist with that if you have more than 1 jvm installed, this is why i asked you..06:36
intelikeyGenix|linux man chroot if you need the specifics on that.    one could in fact script the process that would do the chroot and the wine commands then assoceate .exe files with the script....    but that's prolly tomarrows task.06:36
dhqflaccid_: oh ok06:37
flaccid_t3hwiz0rd: if you wanna get a popular song then its easy06:37
larson9999i'll have to try ff 2 on my son's machine maybe it + wine + the new flash will get rid of the little lag06:37
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dude_flaccid: frostwire is already installed but i won't run06:37
flaccid_dude_: ah well06:37
klerfaytI installed linux-686 but /boot/grub/menu.lst is unchanged?06:38
Zairedamn thing still isnt working06:38
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Genix|linuxintelikey: i'm in the chroot shell but when i do wine Firefox.exe i get a Segmentation fault06:38
intelikeyklerfayt update-gurb06:38
intelikeyGenix|linux yuch....06:38
klerfaytintelikey: still nothing06:39
dude_flaccid: what seems to be the problem?06:39
Genix|linuxyeah i have no idea what to do now lol06:39
intelikeyGenix|linux use a copy of notepad.exe to test wine with  make sure it's not just wine failing06:39
intelikeyklerfayt do a ls /boot  and see what kernels are there ?06:40
klerfaytintelikey: could the reason be that I also installed linux-image-686?06:40
intelikeythe vmlinuz* ones.06:40
flaccid_dude_: huh, i don't have any problem06:40
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Genix|linuxi think it is wine failing06:40
Genix|linuxi just tried to do a winecfg06:41
dude_flaccid: :) frostwire, it won't run, sorry06:41
klerfaytintelikey: they are here (two 686 vmlinuz files)06:41
Genix|linuxand it gives me the same error06:41
intelikeyklerfayt    compare against the listings in /boot/grub/menu.lst06:41
intelikeyGenix|linux yep.06:41
Genix|linuxyeah i'm going to try a diff method to install wine06:41
flaccid_dude_: there are 100000 possible reasons why it won't run. unless you give me some specific information, i don't know which one it could be.06:41
intelikeyback to the wiki's and see if you skipped anything.06:42
intelikeyGenix|linux ^06:42
klerfaytintelikey: menu.lst only has vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 + recovery mode06:42
Genix|linuxhmm good idea06:42
dude_flaccid: when i click the application, nothing happens06:42
Genix|linuxintelikey: it's hard because i am using edgy and most guides are for dapper06:42
flaccid_dude_: do you have java installed?06:43
dude_yes06:43
intelikeyklerfayt so copy the full listing for   vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386     and change the 386 to  686 in both the initrd and the vmlinuz06:43
flaccid_dude_: run it from command line and see what error out you get06:43
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dude_flaccid: what is the command06:44
flaccid_dude_: frostwire06:44
intelikeyGenix|linux hmmmm yeah.... ok the development channel is #ubuntu+1   maybe someone in there can walk you through it .....   idk.06:44
klerfaytintelikey: so do it manually? why sudo update-grub doesn't work?06:44
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intelikeyklerfayt i don't know why.  but yes you can fix it manually06:45
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intelikeyklerfayt must edit as root.   sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst06:45
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klerfaytintelikey: I know; I prefer kdesu kwrite06:46
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intelikeyflaccid you good with wine on 64bit edgy ?06:46
flaccidintelikey: no sorry06:47
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intelikeyklerfayt i started to say nano  :)06:47
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ny0ni need help06:48
ny0nanyone around?06:48
BonBonTheJonny0n: what do you need06:48
ny0nproblem: when i boot into kubuntu, kubuntu automatically connects to someone elses wireless network instead of mine06:48
ny0nhow do i connect to my own network06:48
flaccidny0n: system settings > network from kmenu06:49
intelikeywell i'm off in 10 minutes.     so i need to start cleanup around here.   later linux converts.  :)06:49
flaccid!networkmanager06:49
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager06:49
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flaccid^^ networkmanager good too06:49
BonBonTheJonny0n: I prefer to install knetworkmanager06:49
Genix|linuxintelikey: thanks for all the help06:50
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Zaireok how do I setup vnc for local access on kubuntu06:51
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ny0nis there a command i can type to fix this problem06:51
flaccidZaire: display :0 ?06:51
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rich0can anyone give advice for STREAMTUNER?06:51
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Celestehi06:51
Zaire?06:51
flaccidny0n: yes there is. but its a lot longer than following instructions for the gui06:51
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Celesteis there any native english speaker who would like to control some english lines for me, PLEASE?06:51
ny0nflaccid, what commands plz06:52
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ZaireI want to try something in a gui on my linux server and I only have 1 set of periphs to use06:52
flaccidny0n: i would need to know more about what you have and what you need06:52
flaccid!vnc > Zaire06:52
flaccid!x11vnc > Zaire06:52
ny0nwell, when i boot into kubuntu, it automatiaclly connects to someone elses wireless network. i want to connect to my own network and not use someone elses internet06:53
flaccidny0n: like i said.. i don't know what wireless card you have and what type of wireless network you need to connect to. why don't you just use the gui?06:53
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rich0what is the etiquette here?  i've never used irc before,06:53
ny0ni tried gui06:54
BonBonTheJonrich0: just ask a question06:54
ny0nwhat program do you want me to get06:54
BonBonTheJonny0n: knetworkmanager06:54
flaccid!networkmanager > ny0n06:54
rich0thx, bonbon.06:54
rich0can anyone help me with streamtuner problems, please?06:54
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BonBonTheJonrich0: what is the problem06:55
rich0shoutcast streams won't load.06:55
rich0once in a while they load and play fine, but...06:55
rich0then they stop loading.06:56
dudeflaccid: tnx06:56
deliveratorhello, i need help interfacing with an ipod06:56
flaccidnp dude06:56
BonBonTheJondeliverator: amarok can sync with ipod06:57
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Zairethats not very helpful it just gave me a thing to edit the vnc due to an error and I can't connect to it via real vnc either06:58
flaccidZaire: what exactly is your problem, i don't understand what you want to do06:58
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ZaireI want to connect this PC Im on to my server using vnc06:59
Zairethe server is local06:59
flaccidso is your vnc server set up on the server?06:59
dude!wine06:59
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:59
dude!beryl-xgl06:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beryl-xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:59
BonBonTheJonrich0: try xmms, it is supposed to be able to play shoutcast06:59
ny0nknetworkmanager didn't work06:59
ZaireI got it install and edited the conf like that page said yes07:00
dude!beryl_xgl07:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beryl_xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:00
flaccidZaire: did you install a vnc client on the client machine?07:00
BonBonTheJonny0n: what didnt work07:00
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ny0nknetworkmanager07:00
flaccid!what07:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about what - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:00
flaccid!why07:00
ZaireIm running XP on this machine and I have real vnc viewer install07:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about why - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:01
flaccidZaire: ok so whats the problem?07:01
Zaireit wont connect to the server vnc07:01
ny0ni need help07:01
BonBonTheJonny0n: does knetworkmanager start up in the taskbar07:01
flaccidZaire: which vnc server are you using?07:01
dude!vnc07:01
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.07:01
ZaireI used sudo apt-get install vnc-common tightvncserver07:02
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flaccidZaire: is it running on the server? sudo fuser -v 5900/tcp07:02
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dudeflaccid: aside from vmware, what other programs that i can use to run xp under ubuntu07:02
Brydenn33hey i have a question for you guys07:02
rawrnesshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27066/ me pissing people off in #suse07:03
Brydenn33shit, hold on07:03
flacciddude: qemu i belive and there are others, which i remember07:03
flaccidi can't remember them07:03
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rich0bonbon:  i have streamtuner set up to use xmms.07:03
rich0is there something i should do in xmms?07:03
BonBonTheJonrich0: i've never used streamruner07:04
rich0ok.  thanks.07:05
BonBonTheJonrich0: maybe try amarok07:05
BonBonTheJonBrydenn33: what is your question07:05
Brydenn33hold on07:05
Brydenn33ok got it07:05
Brydenn33do any of you have ntfs-3g installed?07:06
Brydenn33cuz i'm running into an issue07:06
mattikHello. I have intel integrated graphic card and ati's pci graphig card. My kubuntu don't recognize to X and I cannot paste xorg log in text mode07:06
BonBonTheJonny0n: did knetworkmanager load07:06
Brydenn33ntfs-3g allows write access to ntfs partitions07:06
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Brydenn33and i have a dual boot in GRUB between windowsxp and linux (duh)07:06
Brydenn33however, my "links" on my linux desktop to folders on the windows partition are all messed up now07:07
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BonBonTheJonmattik: do you have the integrated card disabled07:08
Brydenn33says only "root can mount /dev/hdb1/ on mnt/windows07:08
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Zairescrew it nvm i'll swap my damn periphs then07:08
flaccidBrydenn33: only root can use the mount command by default07:08
mattikBonBonTheJon: My XP detect ati07:08
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flaccidZaire: you give up?07:08
Brydenn33flaccid:  i think i know what my problem is07:09
Brydenn33just not sure how to fix it07:09
Brydenn33./dev/hdb1/mnt/windows ntfs-3g  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    007:09
BonBonTheJonmattik: pastebin the output of 'lspci'07:09
Brydenn33is what i have in FSTAB07:09
Brydenn33i USED to have /dev/hdb1/mnt/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    007:09
Brydenn33i think thats why my links arent working07:10
mattikBonBonTheJon: How can I do it in text mode?07:10
flaccidBrydenn33: there should be no . at the start of it07:10
dudeflaccid: what is this error? 'wine: cannot find '/home/dude/xp/Program_Files/Qlock/qlock.exe'"07:10
Brydenn33flaccid: duh, i did that for IRC07:10
BonBonTheJonmattik: is there an entry for the ati card in lspci07:11
flacciddude: i don't know07:11
mattikyes07:11
mattikBonBonTheJon: yes07:11
flaccidBrydenn33: duh, so what happens when you do sudo mount -a07:11
Brydenn33i'll try hehe07:11
dudeflaccid: wine command07:11
BonBonTheJonmattik: have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'07:11
flacciddude: this is not a wine support channel07:11
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dudesorry07:11
flaccidthats why they have #wine07:12
Brydenn33flaccid:07:12
Brydenn33brydenn@c-67-169-218-218:~$ sudo mount -a07:12
Brydenn33Volume is scheduled for check.07:12
Brydenn33Please boot into Windows TWICE, or use the 'force' mount option.07:12
Brydenn33wtf does that mean ;)07:12
mattikBonBonTheJon:Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 594007:12
flaccidBrydenn33: i don't know07:12
Brydenn33<sigh> i'll just try fixing it tomorrow then07:13
Brydenn33swear to god07:13
flaccidBrydenn33: try this. sudo umount -l /mnt/windows && sudo mount -a07:13
Brydenn33if its not one thing its another07:13
flaccid^^ what does that return, Brydenn33?07:13
mattikBonBonTheJon: Kubuntu don't know my card07:13
Brydenn33brydenn@c-67-169-218-218:~$ sudo umount -l /mnt/windows && sudo mount -a07:13
Brydenn33umount: /mnt/windows: not mounted07:13
flaccidBrydenn33: anything else?07:14
Brydenn33nope07:14
flaccidBrydenn33: did it mount. ls -l /mnt/windows07:14
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Brydenn33no07:14
BonBonTheJonmattik: i don't know07:14
Brydenn33anyway, thanks for your help flaccid. i'm gonna go eat dinner07:14
Brydenn33night all07:14
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flaccidBrydenn33: it should of. try remove the ls=utf8 option07:15
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flaccidno return means mounts were successful07:15
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mattikBonBonTheJon: What is the identifier of my card? It's Radeon 9250.07:17
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BonBonTheJonmattik: i dont' know, maybe some one else does07:17
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mattikBonBonTheJon: Thank you07:18
mattik:)07:18
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whysohow do i change permissions for a disk07:20
whysoor owner i mean07:20
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Healotyou can't do that; you can do that on directories and files though07:22
sv0man chmod07:24
sv0man chown07:24
Genix|linuxis wine really slow or is it just firefox07:24
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dude_!qemu07:24
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo07:24
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whysook thanks, so to make the sdb1 owned by whyso: chown whyso media:/sdb107:26
globeis there a way to fix a stubborn boot-time kernel panic?07:26
whysothat right?07:26
BonBonTheJonwhyso: no, you can't do that07:27
BonBonTheJonwhyso: one thing is the command line will not understand media:/sdb1, that is only in konqueror07:27
whysoah ok, thanks07:27
BonBonTheJonwhyso: and, the permissions should be okay, they are set up so you can't mess anything up without some trouble07:29
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whysogotcha! but i cant set them cause im not owner :(07:29
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whysoso, can i change folder permissions by command line?07:31
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BonBonTheJonwhyso: some, what are you wanting to change07:31
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mattikBonBonTheJon: I get X running. Thank you very much !! :)07:32
BonBonTheJonmattik: didn't do much, but you';re welcome07:33
whysopermissions for my 2nd hard drives partition, and permissions for a folder on my desktop07:33
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BonBonTheJonwhyso: ok, you need to know the mount for the partition, then do 'sudo chown whyso:whyso /folder'07:34
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BonBonTheJonwhyso: also type in 'man chown' at the command line for more details07:34
Jobberwackythat's a funny command07:35
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whysogotcha! ty07:35
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Solveneqhey does anyone have a problem with kvpnc crashing?07:38
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whysohmmm not doing anything, do i have to unmount them first?07:39
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BonBonTheJonwhyso: it should work on the folder, i'm checking about the partition07:41
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klerfaytwill edgy have latest nvidia driver in non-official repo?07:43
BonBonTheJonwhyso: i need to head to bed, but you can look here http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html07:43
whysok ty!07:43
BonBonTheJonwhyso: i think there is some setting when you mount it for that07:44
whysoim in edgy right now, want me to check kle?07:44
Solveneqooooookay... now IRC works and no other program can pick up my internet connection ?07:44
BonBonTheJonwhyso: i know you can change the owner of the folder07:44
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BonBonTheJonwhyso: you can auto complete the name in konversation by hitting tab07:44
dude_any other info about beryl? how to?07:44
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BonBonTheJonwhyso: good lucj07:45
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whysoBonBonTheJon: thanks!07:46
dude_bonbon: have you tried beryl?07:46
Solveneqomg.. how come no applications recognize im on the net besides Konversation lol07:46
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puttlickwhen it says y/n in console it is cancelling when I use y Why?07:54
poningruputtlick: try yes07:54
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puttlickNope, didn't work ==(07:54
gragusaanybody on edgy eft on a ibm x40?07:55
puttlickNow it works... restarded the console07:57
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poningru.... weird07:57
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rawrnessthis is very werid08:01
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rawrnessamaorak don't want to build my libary right08:01
rawrnessit skipped like 70% of the files08:01
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Ashexanyone else been having issues with the latest edgy update making the k menu's/bars unresponsive?08:04
Ashex!bug > me08:04
Ashex!bug > Ashex08:05
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whysonope mine are ok08:07
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ZeroCoolhas any used smart package installer ?08:07
abattoirZeroCool: i have, why?08:08
ZeroCoolwell, I need to install some .rpm packages, and this would seem to be the ticket08:08
abattoirZeroCool: nope08:09
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ZeroCool???08:09
abattoirZeroCool: it doesnt work that way08:09
ZeroCoolokay, explain pls08:09
abattoirZeroCool: it handles rpms *only* on rpm-based distros08:09
abattoirZeroCool: on deb based distros, it handles *only* debs08:09
abattoiryou might want to consider alien08:09
abattoir!alien08:09
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).08:09
ZeroCoolman, I need to get srm package08:10
abattoirZeroCool: but be aware that packages made for rpm distros(suse, primarily) most probably will not work08:10
abattoirZeroCool: what program?08:10
rawrnessevilness08:10
ZeroCoolsrm08:10
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ZeroCoolits like rm but much more08:10
abattoirZeroCool: you have a link?08:11
abattoirZeroCool: for the rpm, maybe?08:11
ZeroCooljust a min...08:11
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morghanphoenixWhen I upgrade my graphics card what do I need to do to get it working? Just install the driver or do I need to recompile the kernel and all that crap?08:11
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ZeroCoolheres the link: http://srm.sourceforge.net/08:12
whysohow do i change the owner of a partition?08:13
DemonThingpartitions have owners?08:13
DemonThingor do you mean of a mounted one08:13
abattoirZeroCool: redhat rpm *might* work(after converting w/ alien), but i definitely don't recommend it08:13
abattoirZeroCool: get the source and compile it if you can08:13
whysoone thats mounted08:13
DemonThingwhyso: use the "uid" option when mounting08:13
DemonThingso if your username is whyso08:13
DemonThingand you want it owned by whyso08:13
DemonThingthen08:13
DemonThingmount <blah> -o uid=whyso08:14
ZeroCoolhmmm, okay here one, I never compiled a app.. before. <grin>08:14
DemonThingor put that under your options in fstab08:14
whysoDemonThing: thanks! but i want it to do this when i boot up, so i dont have to do it every time08:14
DemonThingyeah08:14
DemonThingso08:14
abattoirZeroCool: why dont you just use purge instead?08:14
DemonThingwell the only way I can think of is to edit /etc/fstab08:14
DemonThingand put uid=whyso under the options08:14
ZeroCoolpurge ?08:14
abattoirZeroCool: wait a sec08:14
DemonThingoptions as in where stuff like noatime, noauto, defaults, ro, etc tend to go08:14
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abattoirZeroCool: sorry, meant shred :P 'man shred'08:15
DemonThingthere's probably a graphical way of doing it to I'd imagine08:15
abattoirZeroCool: try that in a terminal, it'd give you more info about that program08:15
abattoirZeroCool: hit 'q' to quit it08:15
morghanphoenixI wish I could say the same. The next person who puts something on the net without giving a list of it's dependancies is gonna get hunted down and slaped with a raw salmon!08:15
DemonThingor put #shred in Run Command or konqueror08:15
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ZeroCoolyep, shred is there..08:16
abattoirZeroCool: use that :P08:17
ZeroCoolI type shred --help08:17
ZeroCoolsaw the help settings..08:17
ZeroCoolbut I;m wondering which is better shred or srm08:18
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whysoso defaults,errors=remount-ro would become :defaults,errors=remount-ro,uid=whyso08:18
whyso?08:18
DemonThingyes08:18
dude_!krdc08:19
ubotukrdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 490 kB, installed size 956 kB08:19
whysok asesome testing it08:19
DemonThing:)08:19
ZeroCoolokay I will test it.08:19
DemonThingtip: to mount boot partitions, run "mount -a"08:19
DemonThingas root, of course08:19
dude_any info about krdc?08:19
ZeroCooljust that I deal with clients .xls files that contain cc# and need to make sure, they are deleted08:19
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whysohmmm did it but said i didtn have permission to edit fstab08:21
ZeroCoolokay thats, and goodnight..zzzzzzzzzzzz08:21
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DemonThingyou need to be root to edit it08:21
dude_any info about krdc?08:21
DemonThingdude_: what kind of info?08:21
dude_how to configure08:22
DemonThinghttp://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/krdc/index.html08:22
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DemonThingI googled "krdc", third result08:23
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dude_tnx08:23
DemonThingI wonder if there is08:23
DemonThing!google08:23
ubotugoogle is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com08:23
DemonThingindeed it is08:23
rawrness!anything08:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:24
DemonThinghah08:24
rawrnesswell i will now turn in08:25
rawrnessnight all08:25
DemonThingbye08:25
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whysoholy shite! screen just went blue ranomly and rebooted lol08:26
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whysoso how do i log in as root?08:26
DemonThingwonderful08:26
DemonThingum08:26
DemonThingwell08:26
DemonThingyou don't08:26
DemonThingyou should be using sudo or kdesu08:26
DemonThing!sudo08:26
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:26
DemonThingI like this bot.08:27
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whysoyeah thats cool :)08:27
whysowhite space doesnt matter in fstab right08:28
DemonThingit does08:28
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DemonThingwell, you have to have whitespace between columns08:29
DemonThingbut the amount of whitespace is up to you08:29
DemonThingand comments and blank lines obviously do nothing08:29
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ubuntuhelp!!!!!!! i edited fstab and now kubuntu wont boot!!! :((((((( im back in live CD any idea how to fix>?08:43
jbrouhardAnyone have a link to a how-to to make kde look like mswindows ?08:45
jbrouhardi remember there being one off buntudot.org08:45
jbrouhardbut the site redirects to the fridge right now08:45
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t3hwiz0rdwhy would you want kde to look like doze'bloze?08:45
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jbrouhardcause i want it to08:46
jbrouhardactually, i'm just looking for a better theme08:46
jbrouhardthan plain KDE08:46
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dudeany link to krdc how-to08:49
dude!vnc08:51
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.08:51
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dude!freenx08:53
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX08:53
dude!berylxgl08:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about berylxgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:53
dude!beryl-xgl08:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beryl-xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:53
dude!beryl_xgl08:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beryl_xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:54
dude!beryl08:54
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.08:54
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t3hwiz0rddude: give it up08:58
t3hwiz0rd!beryl08:58
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.08:58
cpk2jbrouhard: go to kde-look.org08:58
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esashi, how can i make a MySQL server with Kubuntu???08:59
cpk2esas: look at the lamp page in the wiki08:59
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dudeguys can you help me configure krdc?09:01
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esasbut what do you need to create a LAMP server?09:02
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cpk2esas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP09:03
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puttlickI can't install a package because it says it culd hurt other packages, could i get around that?09:08
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cpk2puttlick: what package?09:08
puttlickCompiz and compiz-gnome09:08
cpk2what does it want to remove?09:09
puttlickit don't says09:10
puttlickbut it says it cant write in /usr/lib/compiz/libgconf.so09:10
ubuntu_:(((( im so screwed i just edited fstab and now i cant boot09:10
cpk2plus you should ask in the xgl channel =P09:11
cpk2!compiz09:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:11
ubuntu_cant figure out how to add it from live CD either09:11
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dbgltcan anyone explain why I can't update? I came in here earlier, and replaced all instances of "dapper" with "edgy" in my sources.list. Then I did an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade09:14
dbgltbut now it complains of packages not being found09:14
cpk2maybe you need more repos?09:15
cpk2!edgy09:15
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule09:15
dbgltcpk2: it is from the main repo, it says it is missing packages09:15
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cpk2missing dependencies?09:16
dbgltErr http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main openoffice.org-style-default 2.0.4~rc3-0ubuntu409:16
dbglt  404 Not Found09:16
dbgltget that for about 20 packages09:16
dbgltand then install can't continue09:16
cpk2that means it cant hit that repo09:16
cpk2try a different location09:17
cpk2replace the au with something else09:17
dbgltok09:17
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puttlickdoes somebody know where I could find xmodmap?09:17
dbgltputtlick: where you can find it?09:18
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dbglthave you got it installed?09:18
cpk2!info xmodmap09:18
ubotuxmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB09:18
Vuen_awayokay, this is driving me insane09:19
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Vuenwhy does firefox use the shitty gnome file picker instead of the kde one?09:19
Steven_Mhi all09:19
cpk2"file picker"?09:19
cpk2i just use konq anyways09:19
cpk2they all are the same now09:20
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zorglu_filepicker = file selector i think09:20
t3hwiz0rdVuen: why? because its gtk.. numbnuts.09:20
zorglu_Vuen: it use the gnome one because it is using gnome all over and not kde09:20
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t3hwiz0rdkde is qt lol09:20
Lam_is there a way to edit konquerer's browser settings more in-depth?  it seems rather lacking in terms of browser customizability than firefox09:21
Lam_unless im blind09:21
t3hwiz0rdLam_: they're there somewhere just not in plain sight.09:21
zorglu_t3hwiz0rd: avoid this kind of words here09:21
Lam_would it be in kcontrol by any chance?09:21
morghanphoenixI was hoping to avoid what I'm doing now, but couldn't find any good dvd rippers that worked right in KDE.09:21
Vuent3hwiz0rd: so this is the gtk file selector? why is it so awful?09:22
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t3hwiz0rdLam_: its somewhere inside the settings, where I don't know... KDE is a bit too over the top on setting sometimes.09:22
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Vuent3hwiz0rd: and more importantly, why does firefox use it? how can i get firefox to use the kde file selector?09:22
morghanphoenixAll that extra space for gnome just so I can run OGM, almost reminds me of a windows install.09:22
t3hwiz0rdVuen: GTK is meant to function very simply. Thats why its the Free Desktop of choice in most major distros. Its a lot like windows and OS x, its simplified and mainstreamed.09:22
t3hwiz0rdVuen: its not meant to be as customizable as kde.09:22
Vuenah.09:22
Lam_i like how things are structured in kde so far, but i'd prefer if konquerer's settings were more in plain sight if they expect people that like to customize to adopt konquerer instead of firefox09:23
Lam_:/09:23
zorglu_hehe :)09:23
Vueni'm disappointed that they think i'm too stupid to type in a damn path.09:23
Vuenso how do i get rid of it?09:23
zorglu_well that and the fact is it not gpl :)09:23
t3hwiz0rdVuen: get rid of what? gnome or firefox?09:23
Vuenthe file selector!09:23
Vuenis it built in or something?09:23
t3hwiz0rdVuen: yes, its part of gtk lol09:23
morghanphoenixmost of the time I can't find my damn paths without using slocate.09:23
Vuenaargh09:23
Vuenso i'm stuck with it?09:23
t3hwiz0rdVuen: its not optional.09:23
Vuen:(09:23
Vuenbut i like firefox09:23
zorglu_Vuen: already answered this one, you can not remove this file selector from firefox09:23
Vueni really, really like firefox09:23
t3hwiz0rdVuen: that or sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox ;-) lol09:23
Vuen:(09:23
Vuen*sniff*09:24
Vuencan i get mouse gestures on konqueror?09:24
zorglu_Vuen: yes, there are options for that09:24
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Lam_i think you can get mouse gestures in kde even09:24
morghanphoenixYou can09:24
Vueni'm not interested in global gestures, just browser gestures09:24
morghanphoenixI have to turn it off every time I do a fresh install09:24
morghanphoenixOpera has mouse gestures too09:24
morghanphoenixI like Opera much better than Firefox09:25
dudewhat is the command for editing /etc/apt/sources.list09:25
Steven_MI know I asked this the other day, but I had to leave in a hurry before I got an answer, can anyone help me out with a samba problem?09:25
morghanphoenixsudo kate path09:25
t3hwiz0rdSteven_M: whats the problem?09:25
morghanphoenixor kwrite09:25
t3hwiz0rdmorghanphoenix: nano! nano!!!!09:25
JucatoVuen: I think you can set the gestures in KDE to affect only a specific window09:25
morghanphoenixor whatever your editor is09:25
Jucato!kdesu09:25
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo09:25
morghanphoenixI use pico09:26
Jucatomorghanphoenix: ^^^^^^09:26
cpk2morghanphoenix: you shouldnt use sudo with gui's09:26
cpk2aww Jucato beat me09:26
t3hwiz0rdpico or nano... all the same really.09:26
morghanphoenixlol, I always use sudo, tend to stay in yakuake constantly09:26
t3hwiz0rdi think nano is a bit more feature-rich.09:26
Jucatocpk2: :P09:26
Vuenmorghanphoenix: what does the file selector look like in opera?09:26
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t3hwiz0rdVuen: its nifty09:27
t3hwiz0rdcpk2: vi is for aliens 0.x09:27
t3hwiz0rdi'll be back on on t3hwiz0rd-server in a second folks...09:28
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t3hwiz0rdbooting to another os09:28
JucatoI'm not sure if it's the same for Linux, but the newer Google products/services don't render correctly in Opera...09:28
morghanphoenixIs that where you open and save files?09:28
morghanphoenixvuen09:28
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Vuenmorghanphoenix: yes09:29
morghanphoenixA typical file browser where you can type the path in up top.09:29
JucatoI think he means the File Dialog Box09:29
morghanphoenixyou can edit the path without navicating your whole file system if that's what you mean09:29
morghanphoenixhow the hell did I hit a c instead of a g?09:30
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Jucatoheh fast fingers :)09:30
dudewhat is the command for editing /etc/apt/sources.list09:30
morghanphoenixI think people are so anti-opera because it used to use ads and wasn't really that good09:31
morghanphoenixkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:31
Vuenmorghanphoenix: i tried opera long after it had ads. i hated it because it kept crashing, it was ugly, and its javascript support was HORRIBLE09:31
Vueni couldn't even check my mail09:31
morghanphoenixIt's been really improved recently09:31
Vueni hear the new opera is nice, yes. but i really like firefox09:32
Jucato2 reasons why I didn't like Opera: Google services/products and URL (Tab) completion.... :(09:32
morghanphoenixThey started selling browsers for the DS and cell phones, making plenty of money to pay for having a really nice free computer browser.09:32
morghanphoenixI love the saved sessions.09:33
Jucatoyeah I loved that. I also love the fact that it uses Qt. lol :P09:33
morghanphoenixI want to be able to kill my browser at night and get all the pages I had open back the next day, and it keeps the history for my back button too.09:33
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morghanphoenixI don't believe I'm installing gnome.09:34
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Jucatomorghanphoenix: you are?09:34
morghanphoenixThe one way it's better for me tan KDE is DVD rippers that actually work!09:35
morghanphoenixTried running one in KDE and it recoreded 7 hours of a two hour movie09:35
Steven_Mt3hwiz0rd: When I try to make a samba password for my normal account called red from my sudo account using the command: "sudo smbpasswd red", after I type in the new password twice it says "Failed to find entry for red"09:35
morghanphoenixAt least Kaffiene plays the rips in Kubuntu, it didn't in slackware.09:36
Lam_Steven_M: try $ sudo smbpasswd -a red09:36
morghanphoenixI had all the deps installed and it still viewed my video files as audio.09:36
puttlickI've got xmodmap installed... but not the file /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us Don't get it... tried to reinstall it, doest work09:37
morghanphoenixI personally like fluxbox.09:37
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Steven_MLam_: the confusing thing is that wasn't needed for my other user accounts09:39
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morghanphoenixDamn that's a lot of dependancies!09:40
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morghanphoenixAt least they list them all though.09:41
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morghanphoenixI've had a few programs I've downloaded that forgot to tell me what I needed, now that was annoying.09:41
Jucatodoes that happen with APT? *gasps*09:41
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morghanphoenixsource installs09:42
Jucatoah :P09:42
morghanphoenixToo many spiffy toys don't have deb packages09:42
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morghanphoenixwoah, I didn't have automake on here09:43
cpk2Steven_M: dont you need to add the samba user first?09:43
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puttlickcould someone send me a copy of xmodmap.us can\t find it )*09:43
cpk2i wish when you use apt-build it would tell aptitude not to install over your compiled install =(09:43
cpk2or even when you build with apt-get09:44
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morghanphoenixI love pkgtool, too bad there's nothig quite so efficient for kubuntu.09:44
cpk2kind of dumb, they put in the functionality to compile your own .deb and install them and then right after you install with your own .deb it wants to "upgrade" it09:45
Steven_Mcpk2: I thouaght I did, using the kde file sharing pannel09:45
cpk2Steven_M:09:47
cpk2sudo useradd -s /bin/true mark09:47
cpk2sudo smbpasswd -L -a mark09:47
cpk2sudo smbpasswd -L -e mark09:47
esashi, i have a problem with the mysql administrator09:47
esasif i start it, it gives a window09:47
cpk2would make a user named mark and set up a samba username for him09:47
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Vuenquestion, is there a version of gvim that uses the qt toolkit?09:48
esascan somebody help me???09:48
cpk2Steven_M: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 this is a really good samba article09:48
Steven_Mok thanks all09:48
Jucatohm...09:48
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Steven_Mbe back soon09:49
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cpk2anyone know a way to stop aptitude from wanted to "upgrade" packages that I compiled myself using apt-build or even apt-get source -b09:50
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Jucatocpk2: isn't there an option to lock down a package in APT?09:51
cpk2*besides* using hold09:51
visik7Jucato: echo "package hold" | dpkg --set-selections09:51
Jucatovisik7: heh it was for cpk2. but I guess he doesn't want "hold" :)09:52
visik7uh ?09:52
cpk2besides using hold, imagine if I used apt-build to build everything while I was on vacation, would I want to have to type out hold for everything? =)09:52
Jucatoclm09:52
Jucatoer...09:52
visik7just don't run apt ?09:53
cpk2and then if want a really big app that I dont want to compile later?09:54
visik7you are weird09:54
cpk2arent we all?09:54
visik7I really don't understand what you are doing/what to do09:55
morghanphoenixLook at all my space fill up, good thing I had 15GB to spare when I started this.09:55
visik7s/what/want09:55
Zairewell typical no ones talking or answering in #phpbb09:56
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cpk2say i want to compile just some random app for the hell of it using apt-build or apt-get source -b i dont want aptitude to want to "upgrade" the .deb i just made and installed09:56
Vuen???09:56
Vuenwoah09:56
Vuenfreenode says i'm banned from #kde09:56
Vueni can't imagine why that is09:56
Jucato?09:56
JucatoVuen: what have you done? :P09:56
Vueni wonder if my housemate got me banned...09:56
Vuenurgh...09:57
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=== Zaire dunno but somehow banned from mysql
Vuenbbl proxy09:57
visik7cpk2: hold the random app ?09:57
cpk2and to me hold doesnt seem like a very good solution because what if I want to make LOTS of .deb for myself, would be a hassle to hold those09:57
morghanphoenixI've been banned from KDE before09:57
morghanphoenixI think it's an IP block block09:57
cpk2and dist-upgrade will upgrade even apps that are being held09:57
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visik7obviously09:58
visik7they complain about missed deps09:58
Zaireit is an address ban09:58
visik7cpk2: hold when you install09:58
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visik7you can try to pin the apt-build local repo09:59
visik7to something unupgradable09:59
visik7cpk2: man apt_preferences09:59
sorush20what program do I use to be able to log the amount of download upload through my wireless connection?10:00
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cpk2visik7: the thing that really grates is that apt-cache policy says the installed and the candidate are the exact same version when it wants to upgrade my own debs10:01
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visik7cpk2: the only solution is to pin the repo of the apt-build10:01
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cpk2visik7: so do i want to pin it at 999 or 1001? I would like aptitude to still notify when there is actually a newer version10:03
Vuenhmph10:03
visik7cpk2: read the man and do some tests10:04
morghanphoenixArgh! So much work just to put firefly on my hard drive!10:04
Vueni'm too lazy to find a working socks proxy10:04
Vueni wish i knew why i was banned from #kde :( i like kde, that's why i'm here10:04
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Zairehave you tried tor10:05
Vuenyes, it's currently banned network-wide10:05
Zaireah10:05
Vuenanyway, i was wondering if you guys could give me any kde alternatives to some softwares that use the gtk toolkit10:05
Vuenfirefox, gaim, gvim, openoffice10:05
t3hwiz0rd-serveranyone miss me?10:05
visik7Vuen: dsl.bell.ca are banned from #kde10:06
t3hwiz0rd-serverVuen: i know you did.10:06
Vuenmost importantly is i'd like a qt version of vi10:06
Vuenvisik7: woah, all of bell?10:06
visik7seems to be10:06
JucatoVuen: firefox = Konqueror or Opera. GAIM = Kopete. OpenOffice = KOffice (new version released)10:06
Vuenlike, canada-wide?10:06
VuenWTF?10:06
t3hwiz0rd-serverkde don't like canada10:06
t3hwiz0rd-serverprotest! blame germany!10:06
JucatoVuen: you can go to #freenode and request to be unbanned10:06
VuenWTF!@10:06
ZaireI noticed teh shipit cd thing is down10:06
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VuenJucato: ah. nice.10:07
VuenJucato: the only important one in there was gvim. is there a vi for kde?10:08
JucatoGoogle? :)10:08
Vuentried that10:08
Vuen:(10:08
Vuenno luck10:08
Jucatowww.kde-apps.org ?10:08
Jucatohm.. no luck either :)10:08
sorush20what program do I use to be able to log the amount of download upload through my wireless connection?10:09
sorush20during the week or month etc?10:09
Vueni'm confused. i'm trying to use kopete here10:11
Vueni'm signed in to one msn account10:11
Vuenhow do i sign into a second one?10:11
osirisok, this may be the wrong room, but say i wanted to make a headless ubuntu box, that just booted and played one shoutcast stream.  what avenues should i explore10:12
Vuennevermind10:12
t3hwiz0rd-serverVuen: are you behaving?10:13
morghanphoenixThat's just because Seattle is so close to Canada.10:13
Vuent3hwiz0rd-server: what?10:13
Vuenbehaving?10:13
dbgltosiris: probably wouldn't be worth bothering with ubuntu10:14
dbgltosiris: much tighter and smaller distros available for that10:14
t3hwiz0rd-serverVuen: lol... im kiddin' kiddin10:14
Vueni can't believe #kde banned the entire country10:14
cpk2Vuen: why not use vi?10:14
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Vuenwhat could canada possibly have done10:14
osirisdbglt, enlighten me10:14
HealotCanada created OpenBSD, hehe << doesn't make sense, sorry10:15
osirissay i wanna take beater box, and make it a headless shoutcast client for office music10:15
sorush20Vuen: what country?10:16
osiristhe amp, and end wiring is easy.  its the software/attack method i lack10:16
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esashi, i cant open adept10:17
esasconversation with su failed, or somethong10:17
dbgltosiris: debian should be fine if you want to stick with apt. Slack will do fine as well. There are also a number of smaller custom-built distros, check out distrowatch if you need. Even a ubuntu base will be fine (but most of it is in the gui, that distinguishes it from debian anyway)10:17
cox377can anyone tell me how to add DNS server addressed to the nic under kubuntu?10:17
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esaso -> i10:17
cox377!dns10:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:18
dbgltI've generally gone with debian for headless servers10:18
t3hwiz0rd-serversuse makes a good headless server too10:18
sorush20where are my qtdir and kdedir?10:18
t3hwiz0rd-serveri'd go either pure debian or suse.10:18
osirisdbglt, i know i could do dsl if i wanted small10:18
cox377does anyone know how to manually add DNS servers?10:18
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Healotfile /etc/resolv.conf10:19
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Healotthe entry nameserver <IP address>10:19
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osiristhats not what i asked.  i wondered how i could do it in ubuntu10:19
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osiristhe distro doesnt matter10:20
esasi can't open adept anymore! , if i typ mu password and want to log in then i get these message :  conversation with su failed10:20
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dbgltosiris: install what you want then, what's the problem of doing it in ubuntu?10:20
esasdoes anywone knows what i must do??10:20
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sorush20esas: make sure that adept is not running at the moment.. do ps aux | grep ade*10:21
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osiriswhat would i need to play a shoucats stream headless, what would i need to set it to auto boot a user, etc10:21
osiriscome on10:21
osiriswork with me here10:22
sorush20shoutcast? just use streamtuner10:22
sorush20osiris:10:22
esasit's not running, i want to start it, type the pass and ther, it says that10:22
osirisok, streamtuner10:22
sorush20do sudo killall adept10:22
sorush20esas: do sudo killall adept10:22
sorush20osiris: you can save the streams using streamripper...10:23
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sorush20osiris: sudo apt-get install streamtuner streamripper10:23
osirisi dont need to save the stream10:23
sorush20what about my question10:23
sorush20where are my qtdir and kdedir?10:23
osirisi just want to build a headles old box, to play a shoutcast stream i code in10:23
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osiristo put music in our office10:24
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osirisand for the time being, *ubuntu is distro of choice10:24
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esasi cant kill it!!!10:25
sorush20esas: what error do you get ?10:25
esastried, but stil isn't working10:25
esasconversation with su failed10:25
sorush20esas: did you do sudo killall adept ?10:25
esasyes10:26
sorush20esas: I think just reboot your computer or just reboot x server10:26
osirismight try finding the PID of adept, and kill -9'ing it10:26
esasok i'm gonna try that10:26
esasbrb10:26
osirisblah10:26
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jendeesas: Good day10:28
jendeesas: so, what are your dramas today?10:29
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|Mikael|hi there; how can i resize my harddisk where kubuntu is on it?10:33
jende|Mikael|: use qtparted10:33
jende!qtparted10:34
ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB10:34
|Mikael|oh will look10:34
|Mikael|thx again jende ;)10:34
jende|Mikael|: no worries, mate! ;-)10:34
|Mikael|:D10:35
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jende|Mikael|: its a nice tool, but it depends on what you wanna do. Means maybe you should use a LiveCD such as Knoppix10:35
morghanphoenixI'm now up to 800MB for my DVD ripper install, it's beginning to remind me of a windows installation.10:36
jendemorghanphoenix: what?10:36
morghanphoenixOf course that included gnome10:36
morghanphoenixOGMRip10:36
morghanphoenixStupid thing won't run GTK10:36
jendemorghanphoenix:I would have chosen DVD::Rip10:37
morghanphoenixDoes it run cli too?10:37
jendemorghanphoenix: I'll have a look; hold on10:37
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cox377is there a command that lists all installed applications?10:38
morghanphoenixholy hell, build is installing even more deps10:38
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Martyodoes kubuntu come with firefox?10:38
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cox377Martyo: yes10:39
Zairewhat other database's can you get for linux aside from mysql?10:39
dumbkiwiMartyo: not by default.  You can install it from the universe repositories10:39
cox377dumbkiwi: opps... is it ubuntu that does?10:39
Zairewhat other database's can you get for linux aside from mysql?10:40
dumbkiwiMartyo: dunno.  Never installed it.10:40
Zairehas to be a database server10:40
dumbkiwiZaire: postgresql10:40
jendemorghanphoenix: http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/en/separate/transcoding.html10:40
morghanphoenixYeah, I have to remove firefox every time I install10:40
Martyowhy would you want to remove firefox?10:40
jendeMartyo: yes it does10:40
jendeMartyo: mybe he doesnt like FF10:41
morghanphoenixI'm one of those wierd people who thinks Opera is far superior to firefox.10:41
Martyoah, opera is good, forgot about that ;)10:41
jendemorghanphoenix: check out the link I've posted, you'll be happy, I guess10:41
morghanphoenixnice10:42
morghanphoenixOkay, that's nice, it need libogm, but it's not in the repos, but it's in the repos, at least the debian ones.10:43
jendemorghanphoenix: yep10:43
Vuenalright, i gotta wake up in four hours for a meeting, a midterm, and an assignment10:44
Vueni'm a dead man10:44
morghanphoenixI'm really beginning to hate source installs10:44
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jendemorghanphoenix: it takes roughly 10mins to install10:44
|Mikael|jende: i can't resize my primary hdd. do i have to use a text only mode?10:44
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|Mikael|i mean, do i have to quit X?10:44
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jende|Mikael|: you will have to use Knoppix10:44
|Mikael|oh10:44
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jende|Mikael|: or your system will be fuc***10:45
cox377!rythmbox10:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rythmbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:45
jende!rhytmbox10:45
|Mikael|jende: and that wouldn't be nice, i guess10:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rhytmbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:45
|Mikael|so i will boot then knoppix10:45
|Mikael|thx anyway10:45
jende|Mikael|: yep, you'll better do that10:45
cox377!rhythmbox10:45
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs10:45
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morghanphoenixhow do I get libogm?10:45
morghanphoenixwhat package if any, or web site if none?10:46
cox377does anyone here use rhythmbox?10:46
jendemorghanphoenix: sudo apt-get install libogm10:46
morghanphoenixnot if I can help it10:46
morghanphoenixdone that, not in my repos.10:46
morghanphoenixwhich repo is it in?10:46
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jendemorghanphoenix: are you having debian repos in your sources?10:48
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cpk2!info libogm10:48
ubotuPackage libogm does not exist in any distro I know10:48
morghanphoenixSome of them, I'm using kubuntu10:48
jendecpk2: G'day10:49
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cpk2jende: evening =)10:49
morghanphoenixonly the deb repos I've needed so far10:49
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morghanphoenixoh, this is kubuntu, I thought I was still in KDE10:49
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jendemorghanphoenix: I'll pastebin my sources10:49
morghanphoenix!pastebin10:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:50
morghanphoenixBookmarking that this time10:50
morghanphoenixhmm, that's not the search part.10:51
morghanphoenixSo I install all these fresh packages and now they need to be updated?10:51
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jendemorghanphoenix: yep10:51
morghanphoenixshouldn't apt give me the newest ones?10:51
jendemorghanphoenix: depends on your soources.list10:51
jendemorghanphoenix: depends on your sources.list10:52
morghanphoenixpastebin url?10:52
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jendemorghanphoenix: what?10:52
morghanphoenixFor the sources list.10:53
jendecpk2: good evening then ;-)10:53
jendemorghanphoenix: so, you wanna pastebin your sources?10:53
cpk2!easysource10:53
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:53
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morghanphoenixyou said you'd pastebin yours, I've done source-o-matic, no libogm in my repos.10:54
jendecpk2: I don't like that source-o-matic stuff. Do you?10:54
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cpk2that page is great10:54
cpk2libogm doesnt exist10:54
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jendemorghanphoenix: mine wouldn't help you. I forgot that all boxes here are on edgy or debian sid10:54
morghanphoenixThen why is it a dependancy? Has it been replaged?10:55
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cpk2morghanphoenix: what are you trying to do?10:55
morghanphoenixInstall OGMRip10:55
morghanphoenixIt says it needs libogm and it's not a part of my package I just put together from source.10:55
jendecpk2: its called libogg now10:55
morghanphoenixahh, I have that10:56
JohnFlux"We could not calculate driving directions between california and Brighton, UK.10:56
JohnFlux"10:56
JohnFluxbah10:56
JohnFluxstupid google10:56
jendemorghanphoenix: http://freshmeat.net/projects/libogg/10:56
morghanphoenixDoesn't seem to see it though, probably won't work.10:56
morghanphoenixI have the complete libogg10:56
jendemorghanphoenix: and your riptool wont link to it?10:57
morghanphoenixnope, keeps asking for libogm10:57
morghanphoenixAnd I though Thoggen was a pain.10:57
cpk2hrmm ld might help?10:58
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morghanphoenixwhat's that?10:58
morghanphoenixForgive me if I ask stupid questions, less than a month on linux.10:59
cpk2gnu linker10:59
cpk2might do what you need10:59
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cpk2man ld11:00
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morghanphoenixafk11:02
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jendecpk2: he sould simply get dvd::rip and transcode and he'll be fine11:08
morghanphoenixgiving me no end of crap, it's not my favorite plan, but I think I'm going to install automatix to get dvdrip from it.11:10
jendemorghanphoenix: hold on...11:10
jendemorghanphoenix: http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/doc/install.cipp11:11
morghanphoenixwait a minute, ./configure worked that time11:11
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jendemorghanphoenix: and follow up the installsteps given in the debian section11:11
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jendemorghanphoenix: what arre you installing now?11:12
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jendecpk2: did you hear anything re firefox and problems using the name/logo?11:18
cpk2jende: havent bothered to look into it much seeing as how I switched to konq when i got rid of windows11:19
jendecpk2: in the latest debian updates it's called now icedove; wondering if it is going to be general prob or if its jus a debian one11:19
jende!icedove11:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icedove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:20
dude_jende: have you tried beryl?11:20
jendedude_: not yet, hadn't had enough time - but I'll give it go this evening11:21
jendedude_: what were your probs with beryl anyway?11:21
jende!beryl11:21
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.11:21
morghanphoenixIceweasel?11:21
dude_jende: im planning to install it now11:22
dude_jende: im planning to install it now but im afraid... :)11:22
jendemorghanphoenix: dont give us always just fragments its not easy to help if you're giving us just fragments or a single word11:22
jendedude_: want me to have a look at it quickly?your dapper aren't you?11:23
cpk2hrmm printf "%s\n" "printf work!" gives me bash: !": event not found11:23
cpk2?11:23
dude_jende: yewes11:23
morghanphoenixRefering to the mozilla project, wondering if that's what was being fished for.11:23
dude_jende: yes, can you guide me?11:23
morghanphoenixAnyways, I need to restart now, think I've got it right.11:24
morghanphoenixbe back in a sec11:24
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jendedude_: how experienced are you?11:24
cpk2why would you need to restart after installing something?11:24
jendedude_: http://forum.beryl-project.org/forum-5-howto   and check that site first11:24
dude_jende: first time to use kubuntu11:25
jendedude_: and linux in general?11:25
dude_jende: first time also11:25
dude_:)11:25
zorglu_cpk2: the '!' is a meta char, try remplacing it by11:25
zorglu_cpk2: by '\!'11:25
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jendedude_: to be honest...I wouldn't install beryl then11:26
dude_ok11:27
cpk2zorglu_: thanks11:27
dude_jende: why?11:28
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jendedude_: as its stated on the beryl forum installing beryl on kubuntu is still sticky, I wouldn't say beryl is menat to be used by beginners11:28
cpk2zorglu_: \! formats the \ in there but 'printf work!' works, guess shouldnt use double quotes =P11:28
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jendedude_: eventhough beryl is still on PRE-ALPHA!!!11:29
jendedude_: you know what pre-alpha means, i hope11:30
Zairedamnit I keep getting reffered back here for help with php and mysql11:30
dude_ya11:31
jendeZaire: wouldn't it be better to use for php/mysql the mailinglists of php/mysql?11:31
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srednaWhen I run aptitude upgrade and some packages are 'not upgraded', why is that?11:32
jendedude_: why did you have on mind to install beryl?What were youur thoughts?11:33
jendesredna: try sudo apt-get -f install11:33
dude_jende: effects11:34
dude_:)11:34
jendedude_: just wait a bit until it's at least in alpha11:34
cpk2there seems to be a lot more to bash than i would have thought =\11:34
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srednajende: Thank you :)11:35
jendecpk2: what are you about to do anyway?11:35
Zairehey cpk2 how would I configure php5 to work with mysql?11:35
jendesredna: did that help?11:35
dude_jende: ok, sure, forget beryl for the meantime11:35
jendedude_: *ggg*11:35
srednajende: I let the normal upgrade finish first :)11:35
cpk2jende: nothing11:35
jendesredna: goon on ya11:35
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jendesredna: good on ya11:36
cpk2sredna: its out already11:36
cpk2Zaire: ?? if you are just using phpbb2 everything should "just work"11:36
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srednaI read at the dot about krita that "it has risen to become what is probably the best free image editing program today" -- so I hope that this time at least I can do anything at all with it ;)11:37
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Zaireit doesn't however but Im not using the apt repo of phpbb2 cause it wasn't even coming close the problem with the whole thing is php5 isnt configuring to work with mysql11:38
vgeZaire: you have php5-mysql paggage installed?11:38
ZaireI tried that yea11:38
dude_jende: have you tried krdc?11:39
nulixhello ! ; I cannot write on my USB key after automatic installation ; only root can write ; what is wrong ?11:39
cpk2Zaire: have you checked to make sure php is working?11:39
Zairehow do you do that11:39
cpk2go to phpinfo page11:40
cpk2i think11:40
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vgeput <?php phpinfo(); ?> code into php page and open it with your browser11:41
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jendedude_: yep11:41
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dude_jende: i can't configure krdc11:41
jendedude_: what happens?11:42
srednajende: No, that did not help. Maybe dist-upgrade would.11:42
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uniqueHow can I send a message to a new ID without adding the ID to my friends list in kopete?11:42
jendesredna: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:43
Zairehttp://foxfire.hopto.org/phpbb2/admin/phpinfo.php11:43
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srednajende: That is about what I am doing :)11:43
jendesredna: *g*11:43
srednaHm, that installs kexi :o11:43
dude_jende: when im connecting to the IP address, it authenticate then "Connection failed. The server does not accept new connections."11:44
srednaAnother app that I have never been able to convince to do anything useful11:44
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cpk2Zaire: maybe you want to try phpmyadmin11:44
jendedude_: is the other box a kubuntu as well11:44
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ZaireI couldn't even login with it11:45
jendesredna: I haven't even used it yet11:45
dude_jende: xp11:45
srednaNext question: Is there a way to remove old kernels easily?11:45
jendedude_: puuuh...dunno much about xp; what client are you running on the xp machine?11:45
jendesredna: yep11:45
cpk2Zaire: well you probably could now that you have correctly set up an admin account11:46
dude_remote desktop11:46
srednajende: And that is?11:46
dude_jende: remote desktop11:46
cpk2Zaire: its worth noting that I dont even have a root account11:46
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ZairephpMyAdmin - Error11:46
ZaireCannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration. - Documentation11:46
jendesredna: I'll post you a link11:46
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srednaI have 6 kernels, and I only use one!11:46
cpk2i have one with root priviledges though11:46
jendedude_: is the firewall enabled on the xp box?11:47
morghanphoenixHmm, acidrip installed and seems to be working great.11:47
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cpk2well then you should probably check the php config =P11:47
dude_jende: i'll check11:47
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jendesredna: I have it, but only in german11:48
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Zaireif you mean the ini file....I uncommented msql.so extension and thats all11:48
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omarhelp please11:48
omarI cant access my USB stick11:48
srednaGerman is ok, I can read it11:48
omaron Kubuntu11:48
omarI insert it on my usb11:48
omarand it seems to be detected11:48
omarKubuntu shows the "what do you want to do" window11:49
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omarand give me 2 options:  "open in new window" and "do nothing"11:49
jendesredna: hold on though11:49
omarI choose to open in new window11:49
omarbut nothing happens11:49
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omarand I cant find the usb in the /media folder11:49
omarcan anyone help me??11:49
roconnoris anything in the /media folder?11:50
omarno11:50
omarwell yes11:50
omarmy 2 windows disks are there11:50
omarand the CDROM11:50
omarbut not the usb thing11:50
omarcdrom hda5 and hda6 (2 ntfs partitions)11:50
jendesredna: http://www.unixboard.de/vb3/showthread.php?t=2019011:51
roconnorat the command line, does cat /proc/mounts list any sda devices?11:51
srednaThank you, jende11:51
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jendesredna: you're welcome11:51
jendesredna: if that dooesn't help/guide you let me know11:52
omarno, no sda in /proc/mount11:52
roconnorhmm11:52
jendeomar: post us your fstab11:52
ZaireIve even tried purging packages and reinstalling them11:52
jendeomar: basically pastebin it, I meant11:52
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omarproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       011:52
omar/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       111:52
omar/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       111:52
omar/dev/hda6       /media/hda6     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       111:52
omar/dev/hda7       none            swap    sw              0       011:52
omar/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       011:52
cpk2i cant even see mysql.so in php.ini11:52
omarbut this usb is a flash usb memory11:53
Zaireline 55611:53
omarI dont have to insert it before starting my machine no?11:53
dude_jende: firewall is disabled11:53
jendeomar: modify your fstab11:53
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jendedude_: hmmm...11:53
omarwith?11:53
cpk2its commented out in my ini11:53
jendeomar: the editor vi, i.e11:53
omarjajja11:54
omaryeah11:54
omarI meant11:54
Zairethen why is this giving me such a hard time :S11:54
omarwith what info11:54
omar:)11:54
roconnoromar: if you check the end of /var/log/messages is there anything like ``scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices''?11:54
dude_jende: i can remote desktop using TSC11:54
omaryep11:54
omarscsi3: scsi emulation for usb mass storage devices11:54
jendeomar: do you understand german?11:55
omarscsi device sda: 1019617 blah blah hdwr sectors (522 MB)11:55
roconnoromar: inspect the messages around there.  there should be a ``sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda''11:55
omarnein Ich sprache kein deustche11:55
roconnoror something like that.11:55
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omar:P11:56
jendeomar: http://linuxer.onlinehome.de/apps/usb.htm11:56
omarsd:3:0:0:0 attached scsi removable  disk sda11:56
omari dont understand german11:56
omarI took 1 year but11:56
omarI am really bad :(11:56
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omarpero hablo espaol :)11:56
jendeomar: and that is also a nice howto http://www.clemens-kraus.de/linux/usb-stick-unter-linux.htm11:57
roconnoromar, and make sure there is no USB disconnect messages afterwards.11:57
jendeomar: ask google11:57
Zaireproblem seems to be phpbb2 recognising the DB despite the fact of installing php5-mysqli11:57
jendeomar: and you'll get probably heaps of howtos in spanish11:57
cpk2hrmm well i never tried with mysqli11:57
jendeomar: on how to set up your system for such devices11:57
cpk2just mysql11:57
cpk2dunno how different lite is11:57
roconnorOf course, omar is right, usb sticks ought to be plug and play under kubuntu.11:57
roconnorI mean they are.11:58
omarso they are not plug and play?11:58
Zairephp5-mysql was replaced with php5-mysqli11:58
jenderoconnor: depends on the chipset11:58
omarbecause it gets recognized and all11:58
roconnorjende: it does!11:58
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roconnoromar, okay, next do you have /dev/sda and/or /dev/sda111:59
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roconnoror /dev/sda011:59
jenderoconnor: I had with some lowbudget usb-stix nice dramas11:59
omaryes sda11:59
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omarno /dev/sda011:59
nulixI cannot write on my USB key after automatic installation ; only root can write ; what is wrong ?11:59
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omarha11:59
omarlots of usb keys problems :(11:59
morghanphoenixSorry 'bout all the frustrations, guess OGM wasn't meant to be, but acidrip is working perfectly and in .avi so I can play it anywhere.11:59
nulixI do not want to add a line in fstab of course !12:00
roconnoromar, lets start with some testing here.  make a directory: /tmp/sda12:00
omarso the sda is my usb no?12:00
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omarok12:00
omarmkdir /tmp/sda12:00
roconnorand then try mount -t auto /dev/sda /tmp/sda12:01
omarwoo12:01
omarI mount it12:01
omari did it12:01
roconnor:)12:01
jendefolks, see ya later!12:01
omarmounted it12:01
omarand it worked,12:01
roconnorwell, that is half good12:01
kinemaIs there any chance of there being a better/faster way to download a (k)ubuntu iso besides directly via HTTP or using torrent.ubuntu.com?  Currently I'm looking at more the a two hour wait seen as I the seeds can't seem to muster more then ~80kB/s.12:01
omaryep, i gotta add that to fstab?12:01
roconnorthe real question is, why didn't this happen automagically12:01
omaryep12:01
omarthats what I thought12:01
omari mounted it as root12:01
morghanphoenixautomagically, I like that12:01
omarill tryu to do it as normal12:01
roconnoromar, kubuntu normally will mount it in /media/sda12:01
omarI try to do it without SUDO and it tells me that ONLY ROOT CAN DO THAT12:02
nulixroconnor: I can write only in root mode12:02
roconnoromar, that is the case.12:02
Zairemysql admin doesn't seem to work either12:02
roconnorwith this test12:02
morghanphoenixHmm, kubuntu seems to mount mine randomly unless I write it in to fstab, then it tries to mount my ipod as my hard drive.12:02
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momalCan anyone recommend to me a good program that I can see what speed programs are using (eg copying from the net) and able to restrict to how much speed it can use (similar program on windows would be Du super Controler)12:03
roconnoromar, so this is something that will allow you to work in a sort of emergency way.12:03
roconnordon't forget to do umount /tmp/mnt before you remove the device12:03
omarbut cant I add the line in the fstab ?12:03
roconnoromar, you could12:03
roconnorit would be more flexable12:03
roconnorand you probably can get it so that users can mount it too.12:04
omarcan you tell me what to add?12:04
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omaris it /dev/sda  /dev/usbdrive auto ????12:04
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omarI dont know what to put in ????12:04
Tziu_Rikyhello people12:04
nulixroconnor: normally we do not use fstab for automatic USB plugging !12:05
Tziu_Rikyay12:05
roconnornulix: I agree, but when it doesn't happen automatically ...12:05
omarif it is fat12:05
omarwhat do I put?12:05
omarvfat?12:05
nulixin my case my key is automaticlly installed the only problem is that I cannot write on it only root can12:06
roconnoromar: I can give you my suggestion, but others may disagree with me and have better ideas.12:06
omarjust give me your suggestion12:06
omarman you are the one helping me12:06
omar:)12:06
roconnoromar, make a directory /mnt/usbstick12:06
omaryep12:06
omardone12:06
nulixI think it might have to do with setting in file /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf12:07
roconnorerr, umount the /tmp/sda12:07
roconnorwe are done with that test12:07
omaryep12:07
omardone12:07
roconnorokay. lemme check my fstab12:07
omari preffer /media/usbdrive12:07
omarjust to have all the disks in the same dir12:07
roconnorokay, media/usbdrive is fine12:08
omardone12:08
omarnow Im in i12:08
omarvi12:08
omarfstab12:08
omari added this: "/dev/sda     /media/usbdrive12:08
omarbut then in "options" and dump and pass dont know what to add12:08
roconnortry /dev/sda        /media/usbdrive              auto     defaults,user,noauto,sync  0       012:08
roconnorfor your fstab12:08
roconnorI think that may work well12:08
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omarok12:09
omarnow I have to disconnect & connect again on?12:09
roconnorthen try mount /media/usbdrive12:09
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roconnorbear in mind that this configureation will NOT work for all usbsticks.12:09
omarok one12:09
omarbut hey12:09
omarI cant write on it12:09
omar(it is not write protected from the hardware)12:10
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roconnorcan you write with sudo?12:10
omaryep12:10
omarmmm no12:10
omarsorry12:10
omarI cant12:10
omarsorry, no I cant write with sudo12:11
roconnorhmm12:11
omarI tried mount it with normal user and touch a file with sudo12:11
omarand mounting it with sudo and touch a file with sudo12:11
omarand mounting with sudo and touch a file with user12:11
omarwhen I moutn it it tells me:12:11
omarblock deice .../sda is wrte protected , mounting read only12:11
omardevice12:11
omarbut it is not write protected12:11
omaro fsck12:12
omarsorry12:12
omarwait12:12
morghanphoenixquick question, can I remove gnome without it screwing everything up? I have lots of GTK apps and am worried about screwing up my libs.12:12
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omarbheheehe12:12
omarits done12:12
omaryou know what happened12:12
omar?12:12
omarwhen I first inserted it, it WAS write protected (from hardware)12:12
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omarthen I mounted and unmounted and all that12:13
omarand i realized that12:13
omarso I unprotected12:13
omarbut now, I disconnected it12:13
omarand connected it again12:13
omarAAAAND12:13
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omarit showed me the "what do u want to do" screen12:13
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omarand after i selected open12:13
omarit actually opened it12:13
roconnorheh12:13
omarand I could write on it12:13
zorglu_the suspens is killing me :)12:13
omardarn12:14
omarhey roconnor12:14
omarI own u a beer12:14
roconnorwell, then you can remove that fstab nonsense I guess.12:14
omarare you close to UK?12:14
omarmmm12:14
roconnorI'm in the netherlands.12:14
omarI dont think so12:14
psb154zorglu_ lol12:14
morghanphoenixmmm, beer12:14
omarit detectd the "usbdrive"12:14
omarI am guessing it was from the fstab12:14
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omarIll leave it like that12:14
omaras it works12:14
omaroh cool12:14
omarI am in UK12:14
omarare u close to Utrecht?12:14
roconnorI'm not convinced, but there is little harm in keeping the fstab as is.12:15
omarI went to utrecht  some time ago12:15
omarit is very cool12:15
roconnoromar: not really. I'm near Germany.12:15
omarI went to amsterdam too,12:15
omaranyway, lets not spam the place, I own you and arkady a beer12:15
morghanphoenixI like usb devices in fstab, keeps me from getting 6 sdas mounted and only one containing anything.12:15
omarnow Ill copy my music and go to work12:15
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Jucatos/bear/beer12:16
momalCan anyone recommend to me a good program that I can see what speed programs are using (eg copying from the net) and able to restrict to how much speed it can use (similar program on windows would be Du super Controler)12:16
omarthanks a lot man12:16
roconnorJucato: *l* I thought you were trying to make a joke12:16
omarif you go to mexico anytime let me know i can help you12:16
omarim from there12:16
Jucatowell, inadvertedly, I did :)12:16
roconnorthanks12:16
omarand I am sure I will return here12:17
omarI was using kubuntu along with windows12:17
omaron my laptop12:17
roconnoromar: but all you need to do in return is help someone else out with a problem (of any sort, not necessarily Kubuntu related)12:17
morghanphoenixeww, windows.12:17
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omaryeah12:17
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morghanphoenixToo bad games still suck for x12:18
Jucatomorghanphoenix: I'm speaking to you from the dreaded OS of the quad-colored butterfly :P12:18
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zorglu_momal, 'ctrl-esc' will give the speed. as to restrict it, it is much harder, you can use the 'nice' priority or the process accounting12:18
roconnoromar: actually make that help two people. ... for exponetial grow ;)12:18
omarbut now I just have linux, i installed 1gb of mem and windows told me "Windows can not verify that this copy is genuine"12:18
morghanphoenixI have a penguin with a flyswatter on my desktop hunting your little bug.12:18
omarand I could not enter to MY freaking computer12:18
Jucatolol12:18
omarso I said wtf12:18
zorglu_momal: the nice priority are easy to setup but not that flexible as process accounting12:18
omarand removed the win partition12:18
Vuen_awayman12:18
Vuen_awayi get more and more surprised by kate every day12:18
Vuen_awayi just opened a fortran source code file12:19
morghanphoenixI love that wallpaper12:19
omarand now I am running ubuntu 100%12:19
roconnorsilly windows12:19
Vuen_awayand it just magically knows its fortran and does all the syntax highlighting12:19
omarI run FC4 in my office12:19
momalzorglu_: I just need something to limit pretty much everything so i don't have to stop downloads/pause each time I wanna play game online12:19
momalzorglu_: that is easy to use12:19
JucatoVuen_away: of course. it's the KDE Advanced Text Editor :)12:19
omarbut I dont have to do administrative tasks so often12:19
omaranyway12:19
morghanphoenixMy girl wants to switch to linux, but her school is contracted with MS so they have thier students required to use windows.12:19
omarthanks for the help12:19
roconnornp12:19
omarIll return sometime12:20
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Vuen_awayJucato: is there, like, a plugin or something, to give it vi controls?12:20
morghanphoenixas in a download manager?12:20
zorglu_momal: hmm unfortunatly not possible.12:20
roconnormorghanphoenix: does she get a free copy of windows?12:20
JucatoVuen_away: hm... that I don't know. Google? :P12:20
morghanphoenixNope, but we got an old 333 with winXP on it from someone.12:20
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roconnormorghanphoenix: well, better than an old 386 with winXP.12:20
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morghanphoenixWill make a good bsd/apache mail/web server once she finishes school.12:21
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omardarn12:21
morghanphoenixOr maybe I'll talk her into letting me play with it as my slackware toy.12:21
omar:'(12:22
omarits slooow12:22
omar15:33 mintues remaining to copy 27 MB12:22
morghanphoenixNah, my 386 had win3.112:22
omar3 files12:22
esasi want to set a mysql root password, i read that i must type mysql -u root in a terminal program , i did this but i get an error : ERROR 1045 (28000) Acces denied for user ' root'@'localhost' ( using password : no) !!!!12:22
Vuen_awayYour search - site:http://www.kate-editor.org/ vi - did not match any documents.12:22
morghanphoenixat least it's not the 8086 with win1.012:22
Vuen_away*sniff*12:22
morghanphoenixthat was really fun12:23
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morghanphoenixended up putting freeDOS on that one.12:23
esashelp someone :-) ?12:23
JucatoVuen_away: have you checked the kate-plugins package?12:24
morghanphoenix!ask12:24
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:24
zorglu_esas: mysql has pages and pages about how to setup password. it is like the most common problem :)12:24
zorglu_morghanphoenix: !readthelog :)12:24
morghanphoenixtalk to ubotu, he knows everything!12:24
momalso its impossible to limit network speed for certain programs/ports?12:24
esasok thanks12:25
morghanphoenixI keep him on a private channel12:25
zorglu_momal: this is possible thru iptables, not easy tho, and to do it only when you plays some games is even harder12:25
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zorglu_momal: impossible is not fully correct, just not at all trivial12:25
morghanphoenixso will I be able to dist-upgrade once edgy is released?12:26
momalzorglu_: damnit >_<12:26
Vuen_awayquestion, why has the "kvim" project ceased to exist?12:26
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morghanphoenixI'm afeared of having to reinput all my personal info again.12:26
Vueni can't find anything about kvim online12:26
Vuenthere are news articles about kvim which all point to 404s12:27
Vuenthe freshmeat page is 404, like the porject never existed12:27
Vuens/porject/project12:27
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Vuenwhat's the deal?12:27
magichi a question12:29
magicwhy i have 2 drivers devices in xorg.conf??12:29
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magicSection "Monitor"12:29
magicIdentifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0] "12:30
magicOption    "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"12:30
magicOption    "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"12:30
magicOption    "DPMS" "true"12:30
magicEndSection12:30
magicSection "Device"12:30
magicIdentifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"12:30
magicDriver      "fglrx"12:30
magicOption    "UseFBDev" "true"12:30
magicBusID       "PCI:1:0:0"12:30
magicEndSection12:30
magicSection "Device"12:30
magicIdentifier  "aticonfig-Device[0] "12:30
magicDriver      "fglrx"12:31
Jucatomagic: please do not flood12:31
Jucato!pastebin12:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:31
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morghanphoenixcripes, how many channels are there?12:33
magicsorry not is larger text12:33
magicsorry you can respond my problem?12:33
morghanphoenix /list might not have been such a good idea12:34
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morghanphoenixwhat's the command to output your graphics setup? I want to know if direct rendering is enabled.12:39
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Vuenoh, wow12:41
Vuenthe guys who did kvim instead forked the whole gvim project12:41
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Ash-Fox!koffice12:51
ubotuIntegrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-151.php12:51
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cox377does anyone know of a command with kubuntu or ubuntu that would test a computer for faults, I.E run tests on all hardware12:56
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flaccid_cox377: don't think such a thing exists but there are memory testers01:05
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cox377Yeh, just looking now for something similar, just it would be a great addon to a live cd to be able to test a computers hardware to know if the problem was hardware depdent01:06
flaccid_cox377: its not really possible when you think about it01:06
flaccid_also if it was, it would exist by now01:06
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cox377flaccid_: why would it not be possible?01:07
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flaccid_because of the architecture and many different archs and proprietery archs01:08
flaccid_for eg. how would you test a video card?01:08
cox377flaccid_: but surely all it's doing is stress testing each component found one by one.01:08
flaccid_a lot of the testing would need to be beyond the standard protocol of which the device in question uses01:08
flaccid_how would you do this stress test to each component01:09
flaccid_devices only operate in a certain way01:09
flaccid_if there is not a layer to which diagnostics can be applied, there isn't much you can do01:09
cox377flaccid: are we talking about the same thing, i'm not sure if i mentioned that this app would be for fault dionostic01:09
flaccid_yes we on same level01:10
cox377flaccid_: to tell u the truth i dont know enough about linux and architectures (excuse spelling) but the concept really doesnt sound that complicated.. or am i wrong?01:11
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flaccid_yes you are wrong01:12
flaccid_and i'm talking about the hardware archs, not linux01:12
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cox377flaccid_: Ok, but surely by stress testing each component if there was a fault it would show up?01:12
Baffyyo guys01:13
flaccid_in theory to do the proper testing. i would need a separate program for every model of device01:13
cox377flaccid_: why so?01:13
flaccid_i already explained above01:13
flaccid_software does not talk directly to hardware01:13
flaccid_that is kind of the short answer01:14
flaccid_brb01:14
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Baffyguys, does arpspoof works on a web server?01:14
Baffy*servers01:14
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Kim^JWhy is Samba broken in Edgy?01:18
Kim^JThere's no /etc/init.d/samba so I can't do anything with it.01:18
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rideoutKim^J : yes there is01:19
rideouttry to reinstall it01:19
rideoutdpkg -L samba | grep init01:20
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tomazhey01:23
igorhow i can get the w32...01:23
tomazis there a way to set the default behavior in konqueror to show the contents of a folder?01:24
Jucato!w32codecs01:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:24
Jucatoigor: ^^^^^^01:24
igorhi01:24
marcusc un channel en anglais ou ne francais?01:24
Jucato!fr01:24
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:24
marcusk01:25
marcusmerci01:25
marcusen tout cas vraiment bien cette version de linux. vivie kubuntu01:25
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marcusquelqu'un a reussi a faire marcher beryl. moi je n'arrive pas sans doute a cause de ma carte video nvidia 7500 le01:27
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Jucatomarcus: /join #kubuntu-fr01:28
marcusk01:28
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tomazis there a way to set the default behavior in konqueror to show the contents of a folder?01:30
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|lostbyte|tomaz, In preferences.01:30
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tomazi cant find it in preferences.01:30
|lostbyte|tomaz, configure konqueror01:31
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|lostbyte|tomaz, home url : ~/01:31
guy_bonjour01:31
|lostbyte|guy_, Salam.01:31
guy_pour aller sur kubuntu edgy comment faire merci01:32
|lostbyte|guy_, What language is this ?01:32
tomaz!fr01:32
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:32
Jucato!fr01:32
|lostbyte|:)01:32
Jucato:P01:32
tomazmerci is french i guess.01:32
guy_ok merci01:32
|lostbyte|Yup.01:33
tomaz|lostbyte|, i mean, when I open konqueror it shows the icons in tree mode, when i click in one folder it switch to deitaled view mode01:33
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tomazand i wish to always be icons mode01:33
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tomazhullo?01:35
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|lostbyte|tomaz, view > view mode, and then settings > save view profile01:35
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Martyois there a package for the ms web core fonts?01:36
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|lostbyte|!msfonts01:36
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto01:36
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tomazarr =*01:39
tomaztanks01:39
tomazyou nearly saved my life01:39
|lostbyte|np ;)01:39
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genus5how do you add users to mysql?01:40
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cpk2o.o a directory that takes over a minute to remove...01:40
flaccid_genus5: i'd suggest using phpmyadmin, otherwise learn mysql :)01:41
cpk2heh, genus5 you already in mysql as root?01:42
|lostbyte|!phpmyadmin > genus501:42
genus5yes01:42
cpk2you dont need phpmyadmin to add a user, maybe all he wants to do is get phpbb2 running01:43
genus5yeps01:43
flaccid_cpk2: i wouldn't recommend running web applications under the root mysql user01:43
genus5well Im trying 3 at the moment but same issue01:43
cpk2GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword' WITH GRANT OPTION; makes a root user01:43
cpk2and...01:43
genus5I kinda figured as much so would like to create a norm db account01:43
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genus5I tried that and its like it doesn't want me to login01:44
cpk2GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE, DROP, INDEX, ALTER, CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES, LOCK TABLES ON database1.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword';01:44
cpk2will make a "normal" user01:44
cpk2you login by doing mysql -u username -p01:45
flaccid_genus5: examples from cpk2 are the sql, you need to login by client in CLI or use another interface like phpmyadmin01:45
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flaccid_sql is fun until you have to write long queries01:46
cpk2hehe01:46
Zairelol01:47
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flaccid_but thats what makes a good dbadmin01:47
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flaccid_that kind of thinking is hectic01:47
flaccid_its low level-high level01:47
Zaireyes it works01:48
flaccid_i can only go so far01:48
cpk2yeah database management in premise is simple01:48
flaccid_database design is not01:48
flaccid_*and*01:48
cpk2but once you start having huge databases...01:48
flaccid_yeah the relationships are massive01:48
flaccid_i can't think that far in01:49
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Zairethank you so much now I have satisfied my obsessive compulsive anal rententive need to get phpbb2 installed lol01:49
flaccid_then there is OODBMS , omg01:49
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flaccid_Zaire: you should convert to SMF01:49
flaccid_phpbb is old and yeah a tool01:49
cpk2smf?01:49
flaccid_simple machines forum01:50
flaccid_!find smf01:50
Zairethanks though none the less lol01:50
ubotuFile smf found in openoffice.org-qa-ui-tests01:50
flaccid_np Zaire01:50
flaccid_ubotu: thats not it ah well01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thats not it ah well - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:51
ZaireIve been trying to get a forum for a month lol01:51
flaccid_Zaire: now you can get a better forum01:51
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Zairehow do you tell if your running ssl?01:52
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flaccidthe quick way Zaire is https://localhost/01:53
|lostbyte|Zaire, nmap localhost -p 2201:53
Zairecould not connect to localhost01:53
flaccidZaire: well you know if its running, its not working01:54
flaccidto do what |lostbyte| said, you might need to install the package nmap01:54
flaccid!nmap01:54
ubotunmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.03-3 (dapper), package size 688 kB, installed size 2380 kB01:54
|lostbyte|Zaire, or you could try loading sftp://localhost/ from konqueror.01:55
flaccidwhats performance like TLS on FTP, |lostbyte|?01:55
Zaireit let me login01:56
|lostbyte|Thats shows its running.01:56
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flaccidZaire: perhaps you don't have ssl set up for apache?01:56
|lostbyte|yeah..01:57
Zairehow would that be done01:57
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Zairewell I gtg i'll get into ssl with apache later01:58
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flaccidok01:59
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Zairethanks again though laters01:59
flaccidcia001:59
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trym|workMy keymap is wrong.. and when I go to keyboard layout in kde control center, no layouts are there02:01
cpk2trym|work: probably because you want to be in regional & accessability in system settings02:02
igorhey guys...i use kubuntu...but my pc is no very good...i have 256MbRAM...i'd like to know if ubuntu...using gnome...is better than kde...02:02
trym|workcpk2: Im there?02:02
emonkey-pigor, in this case try xubuntu02:02
cpk2igor: no, you wont see a performance increase02:03
igorumm02:03
igorok02:03
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igorbut...the only difference is really the interface?02:04
trym|workcpk2: I didnt quite get what you meant?02:04
cpk2igor: you would want something like fluxbox02:04
cpk2trym|work: i thought you were in the peripherals directory =X02:05
trym|workcpk2: ah no02:05
cpk2trym|work: try installing keyboards-rg maybe02:06
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trym|workcpk2: already have it02:06
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M_A_KEver since I formatted my HD and installed Kubuntu, when I empty the trash, the progress dialog stays at 0%.  If I close the dialog box later on, the trash is empty, but progress stays at 0.02:09
cpk2xkeyboard-config and xkbutils maybe?02:09
cpk2kinda just guessing =P02:10
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M_A_Kcpk2 : are these comand line utils?02:10
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M_A_Kcommand not found02:11
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cpk2M_A_K: i was talking to trym|work =P02:12
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trym|workcpk2: just a sec02:13
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trym|workboth are installed02:14
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cpk2trym|work: hrmm, I wonder where kde pulls this from... I dont even have keyboards-rg and I have tons of choices02:14
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trym|worki would imagine from /etc/X11/xkb02:15
trym|workbut theres lots of shit there02:15
crenei am sorry but i have a question about adept,02:15
crenehow is it possible to recover a working adept after crash loading sunjava.jre02:16
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cpk2well it looks like it might pull it from /etc/X11/xkb/rules/base02:19
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cpk2and base.lst02:20
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gingilloHi, this chat as always helped me, i hope you will do the same today: i have a problem: On boot grub gives me the error 18 (i Have win on the main partition). Can you help me?02:22
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felix_eriddell: would you mind updating the koffice-latest and koffice-stable symlinks? thanks.02:23
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_alexHi ! I m looking for a gui to control speed of fans. Does anybody know such a tool ?02:29
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flaccid!apm02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:30
flaccid!acpi02:30
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)02:31
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gingillo!grub02:32
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:32
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arkadygingillo: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_1802:33
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gingilloarkady: sorry, but im a real noob, can you explain me what can i do?02:35
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arkadygingillo: never had that error.. i've used google02:37
larson9999Hawkwind: that swift thingie is holding up well.02:38
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dennisterg'morning all02:39
dennisterit's garbage day here and, appropriately, i'm having a wee bit of trouble with the ubuntu trash, too :)02:40
dennister*kubuntu trash02:40
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dennisterno matter what I do, i get an error message saying it can't create the folder02:42
gingilloi have installed kubuntu in a wrong partition thath i would use for swap, lol. Is it possibile to move it on another partition, or i have to reinstall kubuntu?02:42
dennistercan anyone help me? I've already tried making the folders it mentions as root02:42
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dennistergingillo: if u've just installed it, it probably wouldn't take a lot of time to reinstall it02:45
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gingillodennister: ok :P02:45
dennisteranyone else awake in here?02:45
dennisterit's awfully quiet...unlike the usual02:46
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dennisterflaccid:02:47
dennister?02:47
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dennisterhi jaaroo02:47
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dennister!Trash02:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:49
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dennister!trash02:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
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dennisterharmental: hi there02:53
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ghosthello, i just reinstalled kubuntu over the gentoo install i had as a dual boot with vista and now i can't boot into windows02:53
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ghostis there a file i need to edit?02:53
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dennisterghost: sorry, i have no idea, and it's awfully quiet in here today02:54
Smoophghost: you should add some information like why you cannot boot and what you did02:54
dennisterhey! someone's awake :)02:55
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ghostsmooph: ok here's the backstory, i had kubuntu installed before, then i made a dual boot with xp, then i replaced xp with vista and replaced kubuntu with gentoo02:55
Smoophawake ... are you kidding I am almost ready to take a nap dennister :-)02:56
dennisterwould you know why i can't get this trash applet working?02:56
dennisterit's early in the am here in to...9 o'clock02:56
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ghosti found gentoo too difficult for my early stage of linux development so i put kubuntu back on that partition. note that i was able to choose between gentoo and vista before doing so02:56
Smoophghost: you installed vista first and after that kubuntu ?02:56
ghostyes02:56
Smoophdid you(kubuntu) install grub or lilo ?02:57
ghostyes, kubuntu installed grub, i get the option of pressing ESC on boot to load a menu, but all i get to choose from are 4 kubuntu boots and a memtest02:58
ghostwhen i had grub on gentoo it gave me gentoo and windows p1 and windows p702:58
Smoophok I am not 100% sure about vista but with win XP its not a problem just add windows to the grub menu02:59
Smooph1 second I look for mine02:59
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ghostgrub let me choose vista with the other distro i was using, so i figured it would under kubuntu as well03:00
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Smoophit should03:00
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flaccidghost: have you tried sudo update-grub03:00
dennisterhey flaccid :)03:01
ghosti had to give up on gentoo for now, i need to wait til i have another pc next to this one with help sites and support chans open....couldn't even boot into a gui. Kubuntu worked flawlessly for me before for everything except java03:01
ghostnope, will try that flaccid03:01
dennisterflaccid: could u help me with my trash pls? :)03:01
ghostlooks like it only found .27 and .23 and memtest again03:02
flacciddennister: sorry never played with trash03:02
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malcolmI've got a problem playing avi files on kubuntu, i checked ad xine is installed.  the error kaffeine is giving me is: A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: divxc32.dll03:02
Smoophghost: try adding the following in your /boot/grub/menu.lst03:02
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ghostmalcolm: you have multiverse repositories enabled?03:03
dennisterhmmm can't find anything on fixing this applet, or the probs in konq when i try to send things to trash03:03
Smoophtitle Microsoft Windows XP Professional03:03
Smoophroot (hd0,0)03:03
Smoophsavedefault03:03
Smoophmakeactive03:03
Smoophchainloader +103:03
dennistererror messages keep telling me they can't make certain folders, and when I do as root, i still get the same error messages03:03
ghostok, so i just open that file in Kate?03:03
Smoophyes03:04
flacciddennister: what is the error msg?03:04
Smoophbut root rights03:04
malcolmi just enabled the multiverse repositories03:04
Smoophghost: put those lines at the end03:05
Smoophof the file03:05
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Smoophdid you do that ?03:05
dennisterk, when i try to send a file to trash, using konq, I get: Could not make folder /home/username/.local/share/Trash.03:06
malcolmwhy can't i play avi files?03:06
ghostdid that and when i try to save it says access denied03:06
monadhi... i have a problem starting sshd on a machine at work. works fine when i want to ssh from that machine to another, but i can't get into it from outside03:06
Smoophyes you have to start kate with root03:06
monadnormally /etc/init.d/sshd start does the job and creates keys03:06
arkadymalcolm: try to install w32codecs03:07
ghosti'm logged in as the only user, i should have admin/root access03:07
dennisterso, as root, I made Trash in the path above...then error message said the same thing, only adding another directory: info03:07
ghostdo i have to launch kate from Konsole using sudo?03:07
arkady!w32codecs > malcolm03:07
flacciddennister: pastebin ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash03:07
Smoophghost: close kate without saving .... press Alt+F2 and type "kate" and options user "root" + password03:07
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dennister!pastebin03:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:08
Smoophghost: you know what I mean ?03:09
ghostk, done, so try rebooting now? oh, and that line for the root (hd0,0) is that specific to what partition it's on?03:09
Smoophwait03:09
Smoophnot yet03:09
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Smoophthis is the part you might have to change03:10
Smoophwhich partition is your vista on03:10
Smoophby the way you can change the title to Windows Vista03:10
ghostsda103:10
ghostheh, already did03:10
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dennisterflaccid: k, it's in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27089/03:11
Smoophghost: do you have one harddrive ?03:11
ghostyes, one drive with 3 partitions + a swap partition03:11
ghostlinux/vista/data03:11
Smoophk is windows first second or third ?03:12
Smoophk than change the second 0 to 103:12
ghostunder konqueror file manager it shows second03:12
ghostnow that might be sorted to it's own preference03:12
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Smoophok than change "root (hd0,0)" to "root (hd0,1)"03:13
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ghostk03:13
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Smoophsave and reboot ... let me know if it works03:13
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danny500does anyone know the hot-keys to switch between workspaces?03:14
danny500for ubuntu03:14
ghostin my menu.lst all the linux boots are listed as (hd0,4)03:14
SmoophStrg+[number of workspace] 03:14
malcolmi can't install the libxine-extracodecs, it's not there03:14
danny500?03:14
dennisterflaccid: u still here?03:14
danny500I have 4 workspaces03:14
ghostokies, will try that, thanks for the help03:15
Jucato!repositories03:15
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:15
Jucatomalcolm: ^^^^03:15
Jucatomalcolm: read that link above to enable "multiverse"03:15
danny500what is Strg?03:15
dennisterk if flaccid comes back, tell him i had to go, K?03:15
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danny500k03:15
dennisterI'll fix it later03:15
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malcolmi've already eabled the multiverse repositories and i still can't see libxine-extracodecs03:17
flacciddennister: cia003:17
flaccidoops03:17
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Jucatomalcolm: are you sure you enabled/added the correct one? you should have a line that looks like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"03:18
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ghostno luck03:19
ghostFilesystem type unknown. Error12: Invalid Device Requested03:19
ghostpossibly the wrong hd number?03:19
malcolmthere's no such line in there03:19
ghostdoh, there goes my assistance03:20
redmonkeyi want to upgrade my kubuntu system but without installing or upgrading the kernel. but how?03:20
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Smoophghost: sry laptop bat died03:21
ghostnp03:21
Smoophdidn't get the part with you other partitions03:21
ghostFilesystem type unknown. Error12: Invalid Device Requested03:21
ghostpossibly the wrong hd number?03:21
Smoophis that the message you get when trying to boot the windows vista ?03:22
ghostthat's the message i get when i select windows from the grub menu03:22
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arkadymalcolm: paste your sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/03:22
Smoophyes I think thats it03:23
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igoranybody knows a good program to record cds in linux?03:23
malcolmwhere's the sources.list?03:24
Smoophbecause I don't know what partition vista is on I my advice would be trial and error try the partitons one after another03:24
arkadyigor: k3b03:24
ghostok03:24
ghosttrying to see if i can find that info in kubuntu here somewhere03:24
arkadymalcolm: /etc/apt/sources.list03:24
Smoophmalcolm: /etc/apt/so..03:24
Jucatolol03:24
JucatoSmooph didn't get to finish the line :P03:24
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Smooph^^03:25
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Smoophghost: open a console03:25
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igorarkady: but this on records only cds?03:25
ghostk03:25
igormusics...03:25
Smoophand type df03:25
olofanyone using ktorrent?03:26
Smoophthis should show all your devices03:26
ghosti see this for my 20gb vista partition: /dev/sda1             20972824  12173056   8799768  59% /media/sda103:26
arkadyigor: it's a burning program03:26
malcolmi pasted sources.list there, now what?03:26
arkadymalcom: we need the link ;)03:27
oloffor ktorrent: why does it have status: stopped when i press stop and then start again?03:27
malcolmhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27091/03:27
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Jucatomalcolm: you don't have any multiverse enabled03:28
Smoophok ghost try (0,0)03:28
arkadymalcolm: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse03:28
malcolmi enabled eveything that wasn't a comment03:29
ghostk, trying03:29
supernova_I am not able to write any file to my usb hdd. how to change permission so that i can write into it?03:29
arkadymalcolm: write the word multiverse after the word universe03:29
Jucatomalcolm: the link I pointed to earlier gives instructions on waht to do. but you could follow arkady's instructions since you already have sources.list opened :)03:30
arkadymalcolm: then save file, then sudo apt-get update :)03:30
Smoophyou can also just open adept and change the repositories there in the menu03:31
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Smoophbut that might be too easy03:31
Jucatotoo easy? for who? :P03:32
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arkadySmooph: for me changing repositories in adept it's a little buggy03:32
Smoophok03:33
supernova_ I am not able to write any file to my usb hdd. how to change permission so that i can write into it? pls help03:34
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ghostSmooph: that seemed to work03:35
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SmoophAlright03:35
ghoststill got a brief flash of a Filesystem unknown error, but it let me boot into vista03:35
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amayerahi03:36
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Smoophgz03:36
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ghostthanks for your help :)03:36
test2hello everyone03:36
ghosthave a good day folks03:36
SmoophNp03:37
amayeraI just installed edgy eft beta. but after I used my old /home-dir I have the following problem: as soon as I delete my old ~/.local I loose all entries in the menu. how can I get the ones which are there by default?03:37
morghanphoenixanyone know an application to transcode ogg movies to avis?03:37
Jucatoamayera: have you tried restart KDE? (logout and login again?)03:37
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amayeraJucato: I used ctrl + alt + backspace several times. is this the same?03:38
_alexIs there a gui to manage speed fan ?03:38
Jucatohm... I guess so03:38
amayerawell, I will give it a try to log out and in. cu soon03:39
_alexCan not find a manager in the repositories ...03:39
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dhqhow do i create a new user from shell03:40
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arkadydhq: adduser03:40
Smooph!adduser03:41
ubotuadduser: Add and remove users and groups. In component main, is important. Version 3.80ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 796 kB03:41
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Smoophda gibts immer ne readme oder n man zu03:41
amayerawell, no that didn't do the trick.03:42
amayeraanybody else an idea?03:42
Jucato:(03:42
gingillohi, can you help me to mount my 2 disks with windows?03:42
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amayeraI am really wondering what it can be that doesn't let kde recreate the menu, as the .local file in a fresh /home is empty and I even use a fresh .kde03:43
dhqi am in shell account of my server03:43
amayeragingillo: what filesystem does your windows use?03:43
amayeragingillo: and do you want to mount windows filesystems from linux or vice versa?03:44
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gingilloamayera: i have 2 disks (one partitioned with win and linux and another with only win) All 2 partitions are NTFS. I want to see my windows files in linux03:44
Jucatoamayera: probably the needed directory structer? like ~/.local/foo ?03:44
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amayeraJucato: there is a structure created after a relogin. but thats all. Trash is created in there.03:45
amayeraI mean I could use my old debian menu, but that is not that beautiful.03:46
Jucatohm.. I'm clueless then... :(03:46
amayeragingillo: oh, ntfs. I don't know how far support for ntfs is in linux nowadays. the last time I used it it was supported readonly.03:46
Jucato!ntfs03:47
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:47
Smooph!ntfsprogs03:47
ubotuntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (dapper), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB03:47
gingillothanks you :)03:47
Smoophgingillo: thats what you need03:47
Smooph!ntfsprogs03:47
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amayerawhich program is the one I use to send the developers my hardware config?03:48
gingilloso must i use the guide of jucato or ntfsprogs?03:48
Smoophboth03:48
Jucato:)03:49
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amayeraoh, my /home is encrypted with dm-crypt but that should be no problem at all, or?03:50
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gingilloit works! thanks you all :)03:52
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fulat2khi folks, how can i enable mp3 ripping in kaffeine?03:52
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jendeHi Folks!03:53
Mortice!mp3 > fulat2k03:53
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Smooph!mp303:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:53
jendeDjDarkman_: Hi Mr dj03:54
DjDarkman_hi jende :)03:54
jendeDjDarkman_: How are ya?03:54
jendecpk2: wow, you're still here and awake...*g*03:55
DjDarkman_I`m fine thank you ,and how are you?03:55
jendeDjDarkman_: not to bad either, sun is shining and I'm in the office as usual03:55
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DjDarkman_yeah sun is shining here too ,but it`s cold outside03:56
=== Jucato can't see the sun :P
jendeDjDarkman_: it's quite warm here - I should have bought me a covertible instead a van03:56
jendeJucato: poor bugger03:56
DjDarkman_jende: what do you do in the office?03:56
Jucatohehe. jende it's 8:30pm here. I'd be damned if I saw the sun right now :P03:57
jendeDjDarkman_: I'm a freelancer and I take care of some networks03:57
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DjDarkman_ohhh I see ,and do you work for cannonical ,or you`re just here to help?03:58
jendeJucato: here it's just 4pm, so a bit to go til the night will come03:58
jendeDjDarkman_: just here to help03:58
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kumsyanyone here to help. how can i install realplayer?03:59
jende!realplayer03:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:59
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Jucatokumsy: if you follow that link to the RestrictedFormats page and install the codecs, you can use Kaffeine to play .rmvb files03:59
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jendekumsy: or download the latest deb-package from the reaalplayer site, which will be installed like: sudo dpkg -i <filename>04:00
Jucato!info realplayer04:00
uboturealplayer: Real Player (installer). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)04:00
Jucatoactually it's available in our repositories too :)04:00
Jucatoand also in dapper-commercial04:00
jendeJucato: but the deb file on the realplayer site, as much as I know, is newer than the one we have in our repos04:01
kumsyjucato: thanks. but in our repos, it says that xlibs package requred for real player is not available04:01
Jucatojende: probably. I'm just not sure about dependencies04:02
kumsyjende: is there any deb package available in real`s site04:02
Jucato!info xlib04:02
ubotuPackage xlib does not exist in any distro I know04:02
jendekumsy: yes, there is04:02
kumsy!info xlibs04:02
ubotuPackage xlibs does not exist in any distro I know04:02
JucatoI thnk xlibs is renamed differently in Ubuntu04:02
jendekumsy: does it say just xlib?04:02
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Jucatokumsy: do you have both universe and multiverse enabled04:02
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sYniehey there04:03
kumsyjucato: i checked adept. when i tried to install real player, it said BROKEN (INSTALL) in red colour04:03
rideout!libx11-604:04
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kumsyjucato: when i checked the details, it said xlibs  is not available(greyed out)04:04
rideoutlibx11-6 is the xlib package04:04
sYnieevery time, i copy things from DVD that works perfekt. but when i try to copy things from a CDRom, i'll get a input/output error. thats what dmesg says: http://nopaste.php-q.net/24732704:04
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sYnieany ideas ? o.O04:04
kumsyjende: any link for that deb package u may give04:04
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jendekumsy: first a link to the xllibs manual, which might be handy to have a look at04:06
jendekumsy: www.the-labs.com/X11/XLib-Manual04:06
kumsyrideout: i have that package installed04:06
rideoutkumsy: the realplay packages all require libx11-604:07
rideoutDepends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.10.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3), libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libx11-6, libxext6, libxv104:07
kumsyjucato: btw, i use opera to listen to online radio(like one on RAAGA.com)\04:07
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jendekumsy: http://www.real.com/linux/04:08
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kumsyjucato: it streams real media through javascript popup04:08
Jucatoah04:08
jendekumsy: so its .bin file now, they used to have deb's but shouldn't matter04:09
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kumsyjucato: will i be able to play them when i install the realplayer(it plays well in XP after i installed real there in XP)04:09
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kumsyjende: ya~ i`m downloading that bin file04:10
jendekumsy: cool, it does the job on my debian etch box just perfectly04:10
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Jucatokumsy: I'm not sure about online/streaming media :(04:10
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kumsyjende: will u tell me how to install that package. sorry! i`m a noob04:10
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kumsyjuctao: have u tried ever?04:11
jendeJucato: can we give that realplayer link somehow in the hands of the bot?so he knows04:11
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Jucatojende: probably, but the thing is, it's the least recommended method. so it probably wouldn't be good to have ubotu memorize it04:11
adwaithello all04:11
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Jucatokumsy: streaming real format? no. only downloaded ones04:12
jendekumsy: move on a shell into the directory in which you just downloaded the file04:12
adwaitcould somebod tell me if upgrading to edgy right now is a good idea? and if so, can I simply change the references in /etc/apt/sources.list and upgrade?04:12
jendekumsy and then make it executable using chmod; sudo chmod a+x <filename>04:12
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Jucatoadwait: not yet. it's still not officially released04:12
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Jucatounless you really want to play around a bit, and are prepared for some random breaking and some updates04:13
jendekumsy: and the type sudo ./Real......... and follow up the install process04:13
adwaitjucato: well I have upgraded to betas in the past and nothings major really ever broken......so can I do the upgrade using apt-get dist-upgrade?04:13
kumsyjende: thank ya verymuch. what kubuntu r u using(is it edgy)04:13
Jucatoadwait: yeah. just need to change sources.list04:14
jendekumsy: yep...I'm on edgy04:14
kumsyjende: hows edgy? any upgrades?04:14
adwaitok thanks :)04:14
kumsyjende: another thing,,,, can we install dapper packages in edgy04:15
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Jucatokumsy: not really04:15
jendekumsy: it comes with a lot more nice features and it has the latest OpenOffice Version in it, which is much more stabel04:16
jendekumsy: no you cant install dapper packages on edgy04:16
jendejende: and a few more nice things04:16
Jucatokumsy: Edgy has: a new *generic* kernel, KDE 3.5.5, new init system (for geeks :P), new artwork and color scheme, a new USplash, new KSplash, some of the latest packages, and more04:17
kkathmanAlot of those things have been around for a while, just not in Kubuntu04:18
jendeJucato: it's a beauty - basically04:18
jendekkathman: they haven't been in Debian stable either04:18
Jucatojende: yeah I've been there until Beta was released04:18
kkathmanwhat kernel is going to be standard in Edgy ??04:18
kumsyjende: u have way tooooo much kubuntu in ur head04:19
Jucatokkathman: Debian has Upstart? *gasps*04:19
jendekumsy: toooo much? wouldn't say that04:19
kkathmanjende:  well, I mean for instance higher kernerls, KDE 3.5.5, Higher versions of Amarok, etc :)04:19
Jucatokkathman: well, of course, since Kubuntu takes its packages from Debian Sid :)04:19
kkathmanright04:20
jendekumsy: I'm still learning, but thats the good thing about Linux systems you'll never stop learning04:21
Jucatostill, there are some stuff the Debian doesn't have that Edgy will have. Upstart, USplash, artwork, etc.04:21
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kkathman2.6.15 as a kernel is a bit behind  tho.. but I suppose one could pop a higher kernel if they wanted (but not if yer LTS I guess)04:21
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JucatoI though Edgy will release with 2.6.17?04:21
Jucatos/though/thought04:21
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acauaoi04:21
LjLJucato: definitely should...04:22
fdovingJucato: correct, edgy got 2.6.1704:22
Hobbseekkathman!!!!04:22
kkathmanthere could be some benefit for a few people on a new kernel I guess :)04:22
kkathmanHi there Hobbsee :)04:22
Jucatohi Hobbsee! fancy seeing you this late :)04:22
Hobbsee:)04:22
Hobbseekkathman: ltns04:23
tobias_anyone know how to make the flashplayer go full screen? trying to see the daily show episodes on pollsmoking.com04:23
jendeJucato: i comes wit a 2.6.1704:23
kkathmanHobbsee:   hee hee - Im back to Kubuntu now.. dumping SuSE04:23
jendeJucato: it comes with a 2.6.1704:23
Hobbseekkathman: *NICE!*04:23
Hobbseekkathman: why so?04:23
Hobbseekkathman: and edgy is very pretty :)04:23
jendeHobbsee: Hi ;-)04:24
kkathmanHobbsee:  too many probs, and not enough support.. Novell is ruining SUSE04:24
Hobbseeheya jende04:24
Hobbseekkathman: true that.04:24
Jucatonoooo!! don't dump SuSE!! lol04:24
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jendeHobbsee: edgy is a beauty and as much as I can say it's quite stable04:25
kkathmanHobbsee:  dont get me wrong..its a nice distro..but 10.1 was a disaster and took them 6 months just to respin install disks from  very serious package manager bugs04:25
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Hobbseekkathman: *ouch*04:25
Hobbseekkathman: so they did finally release 10.104:25
blind_where can i get the package libgnutls1304:26
blind_??04:26
JucatoHobbsee: huh? it's been quite a while04:26
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Jucatokkathman: it pains me that the respin was just released barely two weeks after I downloaded the original 10.1, and I haven't even had the chance to use those...04:26
kkathmanHobbsee:  oh sure, if you were Lucky and went to SMART as the pkg manager, you were ok, as I was. But the community is deteriorating, and unpleased with Novell.04:26
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Hobbseekkathman: ahhh.04:27
Hobbseekkathman: how is smart?04:27
kkathmanJucato:  as I understand, the respin is good, tho.  But, very late yes.  10.2 is due out next month04:27
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Jucatonext month? oh krap...04:27
blind_where can i get the package libgnutls13 ????04:27
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Hobbsee!info libgnutls13 dapper04:28
ubotuPackage libgnutls13 does not exist in dapper04:28
Hobbsee!info libgnutls13 edgy04:28
kkathmanHobbsee:  its good, very good. Reliable and the dependency algorithms are excellent.  My opinion is that YaST should incorporate it, but prolly wont happen04:28
ubotulibgnutls13: the GNU TLS library - runtime library. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.0-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 262 kB, installed size 652 kB04:28
Hobbseeblind_: it's only in edgy04:28
Hobbseekkathman: ahh...nice :)04:28
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kkathmanHobbsee:  what's target for Edgy now, datewise??  Few weeks ?04:28
Hobbseekkathman: 26/1004:28
Jucatokkathman: is SMART fast? (considering it's Python?)04:28
Hobbseestrike, i'd better upload some things :P04:29
kkathmanJucato:  comparably to YAST, its extremely fast, compared to apt-get, its slightly slower, but you dont get the metapackage issues either so I'd say its a trade off04:29
kkathmanI exclusively used smart, not YAST04:30
Jucatocompared to Aptitude?04:30
Jucato(which handles metapackages)04:30
kkathmanabout the same as Aptitude perhaps, but slightly slower. But reliability is excellent04:30
kkathmanits a bit more intuitive for a new user perhaps04:30
Jucatoah. I thought Ubuntu would be moving towards SMART. mabye after Edgy...04:31
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kkathmanBut the smart -gui is very simiar to synaptic04:31
kkathmanpeople using the Gui wont have probs at all, CLI implementation is easy to learn04:31
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jendeDjDarkman_: why were you interesting in what I'm doing here?04:33
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Jucatokkathman: that's good to hear. I had reservations about SMART becuase even its devs admit that it's a bit slow. I haven'd had any experience with YaST so I couldn't compare04:33
DjDarkman_jende: just wanted to know it ,no real reason04:34
jendeDjDarkman_: i see, just a bit curious you were04:34
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DjDarkman_yep04:34
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jendeDjDarkman_: what are you doing04:34
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jendeDjDarkman_: what are you doing?04:34
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DjDarkman_writing myself a frontend for wondershaper ,cause I`m tired of always writing it to the cli04:35
kkathmanJucato - If they remove alot of the visual feedback, it would be faster.  Dont get me wrong, its slower than apt or aptitude, but what's very good is the depdendency algorithms, without having to use metapackages04:35
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jendeDjDarkman_: i haven't used wondershaper so far04:36
DjDarkman_jende: it`s a net bandwidth limiting program04:36
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BluesKajHowdy04:36
jendeDjDarkman_: okay, I never had to use such a tool04:36
jendeBluesKaj: Hi buddy ;-)04:37
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DjDarkman_jende: I have two friends here and we use the same internet connection04:38
BluesKajhi jende , wassup ?04:38
jendeDjDarkman_: well, then such a tool might be handy to have indeed04:38
jendeBluesKaj: nothing much04:38
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jendeBluesKaj: it's kinda like quiet today in here04:39
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jendeJucato: yes, please...hehe04:39
DjDarkman_jende: what do you know about edgy ,do they want to wait for kde4 until they release it`s final?04:40
jendeDjDarkman_: as much as I know they wont wait - the release will be on 26/1004:40
Jucato"Mark Shuttleworth becomes the first Patron of KDE" http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/ (note: it has nothing to do with saints :P)04:40
BluesKajyeah, i was running windows for a bit today, but I got bored ...linux is much more fun even when it's boring , if ya know what i mean  :)04:40
jendeBluesKaj: yep, i know what you mean...lol04:41
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jendeBluesKaj: <- scared of getting some minor probs04:41
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jendeBluesKaj: but as I said yesterday i hadn't had any which weren't easily to fix04:42
BluesKajI still have some like my TV tuner card not being supported by dapper ...it works with tvtime ok tho except the audio has to be fed seperayely04:42
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jendeBluesKaj: i'm not really into all that multimedia stuff anyway04:43
BluesKajjende: , it's an elcheapo ati TV Wonder Pro04:44
BluesKajwell, I do a lotta movie burning for my grandkids and wife04:44
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BluesKajwhat's Microsoft MTP? I see it as an adept update04:46
jendeBluesKaj: Microsoft Media transport Protocol04:47
BluesKajhehe, I think I get it04:47
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jendeBluesKaj: http://www.directionsonmicrosoft.com/sample/DOMIS/update/2004/10oct/1004mpumsf_sb.htm04:48
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jdawizhow would I make the following into a repository in kubuntu dapper.  I know how to manipulate the sources file but for some reason I can't get this to work as a repository http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/debian/main/binary-i386/pluto-orbiter_2.0.0.40_i386.deb04:49
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jendeBluesKaj: that should give you more than just an idea of what it's re MTP all about04:49
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jendeBluesKaj: what chipset does your TVcard have?04:51
BluesKajdunno04:51
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jendelspci should tell you04:52
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dinosaur-rushi04:54
BluesKajATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a3f04:54
jendeBluesKaj: its a X600 chipset04:55
BluesKajmy tvtuner card isn't supported04:55
jendewhat are you using to watch tv04:55
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carstenMoin04:56
jendeBluesKaj: something like mythtv?04:56
BluesKajsatellite receiver with a compsite video connection04:56
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BluesKajand analog audio04:56
carstenIs there a rss-feed or something which tracks changes in Edgy? There was a nttp-group for dapper but there is none for Edgy Eft04:56
BluesKajTvTime04:56
robin_why do mp3's sounds so much better with amarok than they do with other programs in kubuntu and in xp for that matter?04:56
dinosaur-rusI have problems with compiling 32-bit apps that use X Window system (Wine, particularly)04:56
jendeBluesKaj: check out that site: http://www.rulerofearth.com/04:57
wedgeVthey dont?04:57
BluesKajdamn, I updated FF and now it won't launch when clicking on URLs in konversation04:58
morghanphoenixOoh jende, something that lists my card!04:58
jendeBluesKaj: and that one, too   http://gatos.sourceforge.net/04:58
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jendemorghanphoenix: what, what, what???04:58
morghanphoenixI don't like the very alpha part though04:59
kkathmandoes anyone know if you can supress the "Popup Blocked" message in Konqueror? Its as annoying as the popup itself :)04:59
morghanphoenix16 meg all-in-wonder rage 12804:59
BluesKajright on jende! thx :)04:59
dinosaur-ruskkathman: use Opera ;)04:59
morghanphoenixI agree04:59
jendeBluesKaj: sometimes I can at least help04:59
morghanphoenixAlways use Opera04:59
dinosaur-rusit's 32-bit, but still very very good05:00
kkathmandinosaur-rus:   well I would, except its terrible when it comes to playing multimedia embedded05:00
morghanphoenixOnly annoyance I've had there was the pop-up to tell me flash wasn't installed.05:00
rideoutrobin_: what engine do you use with amarok, maybe you have some option that enables/diables duplex sound or something that might make it better05:00
morghanphoenixxine05:00
morghanphoenixalways xine05:00
morghanphoenixall amarok supports05:00
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dinosaur-rusmorghanphoenix: XMMS isn't bad, too :P05:01
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morghanphoenixunless you've got that wierd distro that uses gstreamer despite the fact it's unsupported.05:01
morghanphoenixI forget which one it was05:01
morghanphoenixBut they packaged amarok with gstreamer even though it's not supported.05:01
robin_you dont understand,  amarok sounds great, everything else sucks lol05:01
dinosaur-rusI have problems with compiling 32-bit apps that use X Window system (Wine, particularly)05:01
LjLI'm not sure why on the official Kubuntu channel people would so strongly suggest the use of a proprietary web browser.05:02
morghanphoenixWhat do I need windows wise for WINE?05:02
morghanphoenixIt uses dlls doesn't it?05:02
dinosaur-rusI can't compile Wine itself05:02
morghanphoenixIt's still free, just closed source05:02
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BluesKajjende: , my TV Wonder Pro card isn't listed ...i can configure something with TVTime cuz i do have video ...I just have to rig the audio feed differently than i do in windows .05:03
morghanphoenixAnd it's actually more secure than firefox.05:03
morghanphoenixNow firefox is seccond place05:03
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Genix|linuxmorghanphoenix: what browser?05:03
morghanphoenixAnd wonder of wonders, IE is last.05:03
morghanphoenixOpera05:03
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Genix|linuxhmm05:04
Jucatois morghanphoenix preaching the benefits of Opera again? :P05:04
dinosaur-ruseven in 32-bit mode linker tries to find X libraries in /urs/lib05:04
Genix|linuxhow does it run under kubuntu05:04
morghanphoenixOnly browser ranked higher than firefox for security05:04
morghanphoenixGreat05:04
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JucatoOpera runs great under Kubuntu05:04
jendeBluesKaj: the card itself doesn't have to be really listed. The chipset is the part which needs to be fully supported05:04
Jucatospecially since it uses Qt :)05:04
Genix|linuxhow do i set something to run at start up under kde i know you go to sessions in gnome but not sure about kde05:04
dinosaur-rusGenix|linux: I use Opera and it works pretty well05:04
morghanphoenixIt's even got the repo in source-o-matic05:04
ZeroCooldo they got a fix for monitor & display module issue...05:04
aetherWhich browser is this Morg?05:05
Jucatoor just use the one from dapper-commercial or Hawkwind's repository05:05
Genix|linuxhmm i might hafta try opera05:05
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morghanphoenixOr automatix, it has it in the list of programs that can be installed.05:05
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dinosaur-rushmm, can anyone help me?05:05
JucatoJust 2 issues I have with Opera: if you like Google products/service, they don't render properly; URL completion is done by pressing Tab05:05
morghanphoenixYou're WINE, right?05:05
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Genix|linuxhawkwinds repo?05:06
LjLPlease note that Opera is a proprietary (and, in some of its incarnation, not even free as in beer) browser. It might be a good browser, but advicing to use it instead of open-source free alternatives on Ubuntu is totally ill-minded, IMHO. It's just about like saying "Just use Windows" is someone comes here and asks about an Ubuntu problem.05:06
dinosaur-rusmorghanphoenix: what do you mean?05:06
BluesKajjende, there 's a warning http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php05:06
JucatoGenix|linux: Hawkwind runs SeerOfSouls, one of the largest 3rd party Mandriva repositories. He also occasionally packages some stuff for Ubuntu. one of them is Opera05:06
morghanphoenixthe WINE issue was you dinosaur?05:06
dinosaur-rusLjL: where isn't Opera free?05:07
morghanphoenixIt wasn't05:07
JucatoLjL: it's their choice to use, as it is our choice to suggest, as it is your choice not to suggest :)05:07
morghanphoenixIt is now, just closed source.05:07
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morghanphoenixSame as Java, click agree and it's free.05:07
dinosaur-rusmorghanphoenix: well, not only Wine is affected, but I need it but can't get compiled :(05:07
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Genix|linuxyou guys all on dapper or anyone using edgy05:08
Jucatosame as Flash, NVIDIA/ATI drivers, VMWare, etc.05:08
morghanphoenixYeah, thought so, I can't help you, having problems there myself.05:08
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morghanphoenixNot untill, what is it, the 26th?05:08
dinosaur-rusGenix|linux: I'm on Edgy05:08
JucatoGenix|linux: I was on Edgy until Knot 3 (pre Beta)05:09
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dinosaur-rushehe, I'm on Knot 3 :))05:09
Genix|linuxo05:09
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Genix|linuxi'm on the latest beta05:09
Genix|linuxno idea what that is05:09
Genix|linuxlol05:09
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LjLJucato, there are things that simply shouldn't be suggested on these channels. I'm certainly not the one who can *dictate* what these things should be, but for instance, you can be sure that suggesting the use of the "rm" command in certain ways is *not* tolerated... so if you're thinking of the line that "everyone's free to suggest whatever", that's just not correct.05:09
Genix|linuxdinosaur-rus: you have shockwave or flash working?05:10
jendeBluesKaj: I'm quite sure that it should work, but I'll ask a friend of mine tonight - he is into TV and stuff with Linux in general05:10
dinosaur-rusmorghanphoenix: at least do you have any idea what's going on with the linker? why does it looks in the wrong directory for SOME (not all!) libs?05:10
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morghanphoenixNot a clue, the linker is my OGM problem.05:11
Genix|linuxand damn no opera for amd64 :(05:11
dinosaur-rusGenix|linux: not tried yet, I'm busy with linker promlems ATM05:11
JucatoLjL: but that rm command present more than just a moral problem. it presents a technical one. if you become really strict with suggesting only free software, we wouldn't even have ubotu talk about RestrictedFormats or teach people how to install the binary drivers. in some ways we are free, in some ways we are not. suggesting browsers is one of those we are free to talk about05:11
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Genix|linuxyeah dino i'm trying to get my 5.1 working05:11
jendeJucato: FACK!05:12
Genix|linuxnot going too well05:12
Jucatojende: huh?05:12
dinosaur-rusGenix|linux: what 5.1?05:12
LjLJucato, the RestrictedFormat factoid *and* page describes clearly the reasons why unrestricted formats are preferred. Here on this channel, what I saw was more on the lines of: "I have a problem with my Konqueror" "Just use Opera instead".  I don't consider this acceptable.05:12
morghanphoenixHell, I've even seen people tell someone how to install IE in here, for web-dev of course, but still IE. Can't complain about Opera after that one.05:12
jendeJucato: FACK to that what you just said to LjL05:12
morghanphoenixAh, I missed the first part.05:13
Genix|linuxdino my 5.1 sound05:13
Jucatojende: I'm sorry, but what does FACK mean? (clueless here)05:13
jendeFull Acknowledgement05:13
Jucatojende: aaah05:13
dinosaur-rusGenix|linux: ah..05:13
kkathmanwell in all honesty, being the one that started this... I fixed my issue :)05:13
morghanphoenixI just saw Opera and love it so much I had to agree with anyone promoting it.05:13
aetherFack im guessin is the equivilant to fuck05:13
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aetherI was using it last night out of boredom lmao05:13
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jendeaether: you're unfortunately wrong05:13
aethermeh05:14
jendeaether: hehe05:14
aetherI said im guessin :P05:14
LjL!language05:14
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:14
JucatoLjL: and that is where your freedom to disagree comes in. Remember, the question was more technical. someoune could have suggested to use Firefox, but then even Firefox, in Debian's eyes is not totally unencumbered05:14
kkathmanBut Opera isnt the solution, its API, fwif, doesnt support kmplayer so to me its not a viable solution for pages that offer in line video like CNN or BBC  thats why I use Konq :)05:14
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jendeJucato: TB has been has been already "renamed" to Icedove05:14
morghanphoenixsupports mplayer and kaffeine05:15
Jucatojende: oh. I was thinking it would be something contrasting "thunder", probably something like "ground"  or "wind" (just as "ice" contrasts with "fire")05:15
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kkathmanmorghanphoenix:  the info I got was from the Opera people themselves, so I certainly open if you can show me a way to play videos from CNN in Opera :)05:16
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jendeJucato: we had just yesterday a nice discussion bout that on the german user debian list...05:16
kkathmanbut, Ive tried ALOT and I have yet to be successful05:16
morghanphoenixKaffiene uses the mozilla plug-in, it's what I have running now.05:16
kkathmanmorghanphoenix:  and you can see CNN videos?05:16
kkathmani.e. click on a video link on that page and view?05:17
LjLJucato: but do you agree that, for instance, a blanket "Use sudo passwd root" is never considered an acceptable answer to the question "How can i become root"? There are some answers that should *always* be given together with the due explanations and caveats, and I am convinved that much of the Ubuntu channels staff supports this view.05:17
morghanphoenixHaven't been to cnn, but it plays the mpgs and avis on other web pages, what format does cnn use?05:17
Genix|linuxif i have edgy on can i go back to dapper or would i have to re install05:17
kkathmanmorghanphoenix:  no it doesnt...they are wmv files05:17
kkathmanas does BBC05:17
morghanphoenixhmm, you have w32?05:18
aetherwe talking about t.v channels now?05:18
kkathmanMpgs and avia are no problem, I agree, morghanphoenix05:18
aethercnn BBC lol :s05:18
kkathmanmorghanphoenix:  yes - as I said, it seems to be a technical thing05:18
morghanphoenixwierd.05:18
JucatoLjL: I agree. but again, because the argument is technical rather than moral.05:18
kkathmanFirefox can play these also, just Opera cannot - which was why I pursued it to Opera05:18
morghanphoenixI'd check it, but am on a fresh install, no plug-ins yet.05:19
JucatoLjL: don't get me wrong. I use Konqi as my primary browser, and just fallback on Firefox for Google and WYSIWYG stuff05:19
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dinosaur-ruskkathman: may be because Opera is 32-bit?05:19
kkathmandinosaur-rus:  well, according to the Opera dev that I spoke with, it has to do with the particular API that they use and its not compatible with mplayer or kmplayer05:20
kkathmanwhile Firefox and Konq are05:20
LjLJucato: the argument is mostly technical about using proprietary browsers, as well. Just look at the channel topic in #ubuntu if you don't mind -- it talks about a vulnerability in the proprietary nvidia drivers, which cannot be fixed by the Ubuntu developers (clearly), and advices to switch back to the nv driver.  And I don't think this is a far-fetched comparison, since browsers are far from being rarely-exploitable beasts.05:20
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morghanphoenixI'd use konqueror just to keep it simple, but it seems to have less compatibility than opera does.05:21
LjLJucato: using proprietary software simply means using software that the Ubuntu developers cannot directly support and fix. People using such software should know, and people suggesting its use should tell. This is on technical merits.05:21
morghanphoenixI think I might go with sea monkey someday though.05:21
JucatoLjL: our argument is bordering on moral. but the original problem was purely technical. "something doesn't work on Konqi"05:21
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kkathmanmorghanphoenix:  I dont disagree with that.  Opera is my browser of choice, just that it cant play alot of inline streams, to my dismay05:21
LjLJucato: yes, and the answer was a blanket "Use Opera", for what I could see.05:21
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BluesKajanaged to fix FF as default URL browser in settings/configure/general...browser option was greyed out ...just had to type in "firefox "05:22
BluesKajanaged05:22
morghanphoenixagreed, recomend Opera because it's a great program, make sure to note it's closed source and unsupported.05:22
rittapHi all, how do I insert Flash support into Konqueror on x86_64 architecture?05:22
JucatoLjL: but that's the prerogative of the one who suggested it. he was answering from a technical point of view.05:22
BluesKajso you like opera more than FF05:22
Jucatoof course, you're free to disagree with me. but the discussion is going nowhere, don't you think?05:22
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morghanphoenixMuch more05:22
morghanphoenixPersonal taste05:23
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morghanphoenixI just think EVERYONE should try both, they both have merits, Opera's just the one for me.05:23
BluesKajalways open top new programs ...tried opera in the past but was a bit clunky at the time05:23
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morghanphoenixIt was really bad05:23
morghanphoenixBeen improved a LOT recently.05:24
LjLJucato: I think it's his prerogative, *as long* as he specifies that Opera, being proprietary, cannot be supported directly by the Ubuntu team (so no guarantee of security updates, chiefly). This note should always come with such a suggestion, just like the note that "it's not really supported and you shouldn't do it" should always come with an answer to "how do i set a root password".05:24
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dinosaur-rusI guess it's, at least, weird to think "only open-source, and nothing more"...05:24
BluesKajis Opera in the repos ?05:24
shefthello, how do i make a shortcut to a konsole command... i wanna open konsole and then execute this command: "cd spel/q3 <enter> ./quake3.x86 +set fs_game cpma"05:24
morghanphoenixAdded repos05:24
LjLdinosaur-rus: i haven't said that.05:24
morghanphoenixSource-o-matic has it05:24
LjLBluesKaj: it's in dapper-commercial AFAIK.05:24
BluesKajok05:24
kkathmanOn the Opera site there is a specific Ubuntu download, also05:25
Jucatoit was in multiverse before. but now that there's dapper-commercial, it has been put there instead05:25
morghanphoenixYup, and Automatix does it too.05:25
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tobias_anyone know how to make the flashplayer go full screen? trying to see the daily show episodes on pollsmoking.com05:26
tobias_Its sad to see it in a small window :(05:26
dinosaur-rusLjL: but you suggest using open-source software with so much persistense....05:26
tobias_jon stewart needs to be in full screen05:26
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morghanphoenixYes, preferably over my own 19" flat05:27
kkathmanJucato:  I apologize for causing such a stir for a simple question..hehe :)05:27
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morghanphoenixOne of those 30"s would be nice.05:27
Jucatokkathman: it's ok. I actually blame morghanphoenix :P05:27
LjLdinosaur-rus: wrong. I suggest that a blanket advice to use a piece of proprietary software just because the standard Ubuntu-supplied software is giving a problem, without even specifying that the suggested software is proprietary, with all the consequences this has (see what I just told Jucato), is wrong.05:27
morghanphoenixlol05:27
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LjLwell, for that matter, I05:27
morghanphoenixyup, blame the bird, everyone does.05:27
T3hWiz0rdt3hwiz0rd-server: BAD SERVER!05:28
LjLwell, for that matter, I'm still waiting to be told to move this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic, since it clearly doesn't belong here. Apparently nobody's caring about that, either.05:28
kkathmanmorghanphoenix:  I dont blame you :)05:28
jendeLjL: don't you think that that what you just said is a bit close-minded?05:28
rittapLjL: move this topic to #kubuntu-offtopic ;)05:28
morghanphoenixLike I said, it's all preference.05:28
kkathmanLjl  I thought the discusion was topical tho :)05:29
rittapLjL: just kidding :)05:29
jendemorghanphoenix: I totally agree05:29
BluesKajkkathman: gonna install the opers deb pkg and we'll see :)05:29
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LjLkkathman: this channel is dedicated to giving Ubuntu support, so no05:29
JucatoLjL: I already suggested to stop the discussion05:29
morghanphoenixIf I ever learn to hack my programs I'll switch to open source so I can work on my apps.05:29
BluesKajerr opera05:29
kkathmanohh05:29
BluesKaj:)05:29
amayerahi05:30
LjLjenda, which phrase are you referring to?05:30
morghanphoenixBut for now, the exent of my programming is HTML and editing superkaramba themes.05:30
amayeraanybody of you using edgy with dm-crypt?05:30
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jendeLjL: to the one you've given to dnosaur-rus05:30
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kkathmanLjL:   other support channels allow that kind of discussion...as it is for the general good of all concerned, as long as people dont get overlooked on real support questions, of course :)05:30
Jucatokkathman: I'm thinking amayera's question got overlooked :)05:31
jendeamayera: unfortunately not05:31
LjLjende: well, actually no, rather i think suggesting the use of proprietary software with a blanket "just use xyz" without any additional explanation *is* closed-minded05:31
morghanphoenixNo edgy for me untill the actual release.05:31
kkathmanJucato:  I see that :)  but then I cant answer it either :)05:31
morghanphoenixUse Konqueror, Firefox and Opera, whatever works, kepp. The others, sudo apt-get remove (program)05:32
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morghanphoenixWell, not konq05:32
JucatoLjL: please keep in mind that not everyone is as "morally conscious" as you when it comes to suggesting non-free software, nor do they feel the need to include "is non-free" in every suggestion.05:32
amayeraok, well, I will ask it now ^^: I am using dm-crypt and my cryptdisks should be mounted with /etc/init.d/cryptdisks-early, but usplash prevents the passphrase question from being showed. this is rather annoying as I have to do all by hand.05:32
morghanphoenixshould probably keep that one.05:32
Jucatohaving said that, please stop the discussion05:32
amayerais this a known issue / bug or something?05:33
LjLJucato: alright05:33
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kkathmanamayera:  could you substitute another splash?05:34
amayerakkathman: what do you mean?05:34
dude_!nVidia05:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:34
kkathmanamayera:  I guess I dont know when  your prompt is coming up... if its covering something, I'd say that would be more of a dm-crypt issue (bug) cuz all linux distros have a usplash right?05:35
morghanphoenixAnybody know about legacy drivers for ATI?05:36
morghanphoenixthat glwhatever doesn't support mine.05:36
amayerakkathman: well, debian hasn't :D05:36
rittapHow do I insert flash support into Konqueror on x86_64?05:36
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kkathmanamayera:   hmm, I really dont know then.05:37
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amayerakkathman: any idea whom I can contact for this issue?05:37
morghanphoenixDoesn't the install flash script give an option for konqueror?05:37
kkathmanamayera:  what has been the dm-crypt response on the issue??05:37
amayerakkathman: I have only asked here so far.05:37
amayeraas I thought it might be a known issue.05:38
kkathmanamayera:  ahh, ok.05:38
morghanphoenixAre you running the installer with konqueror closed?05:38
Jucatomorghanphoenix: what flash script? from flashplugin-nonfree?05:38
rittapmorghanphoenix: I downloaded that one, but it doesnt support x68_64...05:38
morghanphoenixoh, no, I downloaded from the flash site.05:38
Jucatoah05:38
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rittap!flashplugin-nonfree05:38
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)05:38
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morghanphoenixIt has a script in the package that should work for konqueror.05:38
rittapmorghanphoenix: nope, not on AMD6305:39
amayeraI will try #ubuntu. should be the same issue there.05:39
Frumpydoes kubuntu limit access to mysql root user or is there a different user configured for mysql on kubuntu ?05:39
rittapmorghanphoenix: oops AMD6405:39
xdemonhi all!05:39
Frumpy! mysql05:39
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.05:39
dinosaur-rusrittap: 63-bit processor? :))05:39
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rittapdinosaur-rus: typo :)05:39
morghanphoenixhmm, don't know, I have an athlon.05:39
xdemonanyone try using BAGHIRA theme under kubuntu?05:39
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xdemon!baghira05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
rittap!kdm > xdemon05:40
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morghanphoenix!kdm > morghanphoenix05:40
xdemoni doesnt need kdm05:41
rittapmorghanphoenix: I tried to manual install the script by copying the two files (libflashplayer.so & flashplayer.xpt) into a plugin directory, but KDE doesnt see the plugin05:41
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admin__Hi guys05:42
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morghanphoenixI don't know about the 64, have the kubuntu disc for it, but it's for other's computers.05:42
morghanphoenixNow why didn't anyone suggest acidrip to me earlier when I was looking for a program to rip my DVDs?05:43
BluesKajBBL05:43
morghanphoenixThis thing is great!05:43
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BaffyGuys, Does Arpspoof works on web servers?05:44
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morghanphoenixIs there a program to make playlists out of avi files?05:45
BaffyDoes anyone know if arpspoof work on web servers?05:45
Baffywhat program is the best if i want to make a windows script/Program?05:47
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Baffydamn you guys you are boring ! =P05:48
dinosaur-rusBaffy: why do you want to make Windows program in Linux?05:48
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BaffyCuss its easier05:48
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Baffyi hate c++05:48
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shefthey boys n girls05:51
shefti have made a shortcut on my desktop. how do i move it to  my panel?05:51
bmoyou drag it there05:53
bmosheft05:53
shefti cant05:53
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sheftcause it want to be dragged onto my other icons there05:53
bmomake room05:53
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bmograb one of the applet handles and drag to make room05:54
shefti have room, i still cant05:54
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shefta little X comes up over the icon when i try to drag it there.05:54
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bmothen you're not dragging it to empty space.  I just did it twice, just to make sure I'm not crazy05:55
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shefti am 100% positive i have room for it05:56
bmoa little x?  not a circle with a line through it?05:56
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sheftw805:57
shefti have screenshot now :P05:57
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bmo!paste05:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:57
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sheftbmo: the screenshot didnt show my mouse icon, but anyways..05:58
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bmowhere did you put the screenshot?05:58
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shefthttp://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skrmdump3xa1.png05:59
v3ctoris your panel locked?05:59
sheftno05:59
v3ctorthat was a fast check05:59
v3ctor :D06:00
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morghanphoenixthat was really slow06:00
v3ctorlol06:01
sheft^^06:01
v3ctorfarther than mine06:01
shefthaha06:01
sheftill try saving as   jpg instead, 2 sec :P06:01
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morghanphoenixwhat icon set?06:01
morghanphoenixI likey06:01
v3ctorthat image really doesn't show a problem06:02
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bmothere it is06:02
shefthttp://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skrmdump3go6.jpg06:02
sheftscreenshot didnt catch my mouse06:02
bmonow that thing labelled q3, which direction did you drag it, toward the empty spot or straight down?06:02
sheftbut its a circle with a "X"06:02
morghanphoenixopen a spot between your icons on the panle06:03
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morghanphoenixdrop it in empty space06:03
sheftto the empty spot, if i drag it onto the other icons nothing happens aswell06:03
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bmothe standard procedure is to drag an icon to the bar.  I don't know of any other way to add an icon to the bar06:04
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morghanphoenixYou could right click and add application to panel.06:05
bmoodd06:05
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bmoyeah, but that's not adding a shortcut06:05
morghanphoenixnon-kde application not specific enough for you?06:05
morghanphoenixLet's you do path and all that, need something more?06:06
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Dr_willishmmm06:07
bmothat heart icon, that's his "bookmark" icon?06:07
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shefti rightclicked on the icon and selected it06:08
bmono, no, left click and drag, not right click06:09
bmowhat does right click do..hmmm..06:09
sheftselect icons !06:09
shefti leftclick and dragged lol06:10
dude!mp306:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:10
Martyohow do I search for packages for kubuntu like you can with rpmfind?06:11
Dr_willisapt-cache search06:11
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MartyoDr_willis: thanks!06:13
Dr_willis!apt06:13
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:13
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DaSkreechLjL: apt-get install vrms06:14
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LjLDaSkreech: well, *that* one will probably show a warning even if it finds you're using a power supply that didn't come with the schematics06:15
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dude!amarok06:18
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org06:18
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DaSkreechLjL: More power to it :)06:20
DaSkreechLjL: I'm pretty sure that it is only sotware based06:20
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dudewhere can i download codecs for amarok06:20
LjL!mp306:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:20
TheGateKeeperdude: amarok using xine engine & libxine-extracodecs :-)06:21
TheGateKeeper!libxine-extracodecs06:21
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB06:21
dudetnx06:21
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TheGateKeeperdude: ^^^^06:21
Jucato!multiverse06:21
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:21
Jucatodude: to enable multiverse ^^^^06:21
dudejucato: dow do i enable multiverse?06:22
dudejucato: how do i enable multiverse?06:23
Hawkwind!multiverse > dude06:23
Jucatodude: that Repositories/Kubuntu link06:23
joakimsudo apt-get install multiverse try that06:23
Jucatojoakim: multiverse is not a package06:23
Hawkwindjoakim: Not hardly06:23
Hawkwindjoakim: Multiverse is a repository, not a package you install06:24
HawkwindThough that would be nice if you could do that and it enabled multiverse :P06:24
v3ctoryes06:24
Jucatonow if only it was the "easy" to enable multiverse :)06:24
JucatoHawkwind: you're mimicking me :P06:24
Hawkwindsudo apt-get install repos  Would enable universe, multiverse and others06:24
DaSkreechHawkwind: And ljl would complain that it enabled commercial :)06:25
Jucatoor something more like "sudo apt-get enable <repository>"06:25
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v3ctori am still waiting for: apt-get fix broken-system06:25
Jucatosudo apt-get install brain && sudo apt-get remove --purge laziness06:25
HawkwindDaSkreech: Oh well.  Maybe he could learn a thing or two about how good having those repos are :P06:25
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LjLDaSkreech: i wouldn't mind easiness of adding repository, though i'd certainly like to see an explanatory message when you do06:26
Jucatossshhh let's not have that discussion again. please?06:26
DaSkreechv3ctor: which is a symlink to fdisk -format /mnt/windows/partion ?06:26
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DaSkreechHi nikkiana :)06:26
Jucatoor if you insist, just bring it to #kubuntu-offtopic :)06:26
nikkianahi DaSkreech06:26
DaSkreechHow are you?06:27
nikkianaDaSkreech: i'm okay :)06:27
v3ctorlol06:27
DaSkreechexcellent :)06:27
cox377!webcam06:27
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:27
Jucatowasn't the response supposed to be "I'm fine. Thank you! how about you?" :)06:27
Jucato(classic textbook dialogue)06:27
LjLJucato: no, i won't, i already brought it by Seveas, which gave me his standard clue of "do what you see fit and let others do the same, and i'll let you know what i think when i ban you" by ignoring the question06:28
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blind_what's the sourse adress for libguichan006:28
LjL(though, err, i didn't really mean to use "which" for seveas...)06:29
blind_what's the sourse adress for the package libguichan006:29
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cox377how many ppl here use webcams on there kubuntu/ubuntu?06:29
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zeratulwish I could, but my cam don't have any linux drivers :(06:30
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jendezeratul: what cam is it?06:31
MetaMorfoziSi think the spa5cx or how it spelled helps yours06:31
larson9999Hawkwind: found one thing that seems to be worse in swiftfox than firefox.  some of the video sites i visit are choppier in swiftfox.  i tried using both swiftfox first on the same file and vice versa and after reboots, etc.  this is on the the 2.0 version of ff.06:32
cox377basically, i want to use the cam as a CCTV and have it on a linux box so it starts taking video/images and uploading them as soon as it detects movement, is there something out there for linux that suitable to these requirements?06:32
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Jucatoblind_: make sure that the "deb-src" for your universe repositories are enabled, then "sudo apt-get source libguichan0"06:32
marekhi06:32
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mareki have a problem06:32
jendemarek: like what?06:32
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Hawkwindlarson9999: Strange.  I don't have that issue at all.  I can't find anything in swiftfox that is worse than firefox06:32
marekabout xlibs06:32
mareki cannot install it06:32
marekbecouse i need a libxft1 to install06:33
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larson9999Hawkwind: rocektboom is what i just tested it on.06:33
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JucatoHawkwind: how good is the logo? :P06:33
HawkwindJucato: LOL, very decent06:33
marekbut for libxft1 i need xfree86-common06:33
Jucatoheh not good as Firefox though :P06:33
marekbut i cannot install xfree86-common06:34
morghanphoenixpartitioning question: What is the difference between primary and logical partitions and which paths need to be primary?06:34
marekbecouse i have error06:34
mareklike that06:34
vssI am having problems with kubunte kde menu and crossover. can someone help?06:34
luis_lopezcox377, a while ago there was an article on LJ about the topic: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/623206:34
larson9999Hawkwind: but i think i will keep using swiftfox primarily06:34
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dudeE: Couldn't find package multiverse06:34
Jucatodude: you're not supposed to "sudo apt-get install multiverse" :)06:35
blind_what's the sourse adress for the package libguichan0 ????06:35
Jucatoblind_: I already answered you06:35
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Jucato<Jucato> blind_: make sure that the "deb-src" for your universe repositories are enabled, then "sudo apt-get source libguichan0"06:35
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dudejucato: whats should be the command?06:36
jendeblind_: you might have to modify your sources.list if apt or adept wont get it for you06:36
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jendedude: what do you wanna do?06:37
DaSkreech!winmodem06:37
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto06:37
n8k99dude: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list06:37
Jucatodude: did you read the link that was given? there's no 1 command to do that06:37
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n8k99dude: then remove teh # in front of any line that says deb http://*06:37
jendeJucato: he is probably not reading what you told hime06:37
jendeJucato: he is probably not reading what you told him06:38
Jucaton8k99: that won't do, because by default, "multiverse" isn't even added06:38
Jucato!multiverse06:38
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:38
Jucatodude: read that link above ^^^^^^06:38
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dudei did that already,06:39
B-Minushey all06:39
dudei wanna download codecs for amarok06:40
jende!codecs06:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:40
Jucatodude: once you've enabled multiverse, you can use Adept to search for, download, and install libxine-extracodecs06:40
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Martijn81are there any reason for not installing the MIT nv driver? ( http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228 )06:41
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jendeJucato: i would invite you for a coffee...06:42
dudejucato: tnx, actually, my kubuntu is already setup and all codecs are installed but when i open my pc a while ago, no boot loader, no boot device detected so re install the system again06:42
Martijn81because i am not informed so well about this06:42
Jucatojende: heh thanks06:42
jendedude: so are you telling us that your box doesn't boot?06:42
DaSkreechDidn't boo06:42
dudeya06:42
DaSkreecht06:42
jendeJucato: and maybe a beer, buut only maybe06:43
dude3hrs ago06:43
Jucatolol06:43
dudejucato: it didn't boot06:43
jendedude: have you done an upgrade or whatsoever before it happened?06:43
dudejucato: ya, i think so06:43
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jendedude: it *didn't* boot or it does not boot06:44
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dudejende: it didn't boot: the error was: no boot device detected"06:45
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jendedude: and now it boots again, am i right06:45
dudejende: i re install the whole ubuntu06:46
dudejende: thats why im installing all the codecs again06:46
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dudejucato: there are libxine-extracodecs06:46
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Jucatodude: install that, and you'll be able to play mp3's06:46
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dudejucato: there are no libxine-extracodecs found06:47
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Jucatohm..06:47
Jucatodude: using pastebin, could you show the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list06:48
Jucato!pastebin06:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:48
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jendedude: thats weird...06:48
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sheftgoogle06:48
cox377does anyone have any recommendations for the best webcam in the budget range that works on linux?06:49
jendedude: yeah, pastebin your sources.list as Jucato said that'll help heaps06:49
Jucatojende: not really. if he hadn't enabled/added the correct multiverse repository. I've seen it happen, even with the multiverse guide06:49
dudejende: i don't know what happened06:49
shinobium. can i put kmenu menu on my desktop instead of in kicker?06:49
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dudehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2710406:49
Jucatoshinobi: you can set your middle mouse button (or left mouse button) to launch the K Menu when you click on the desktop06:50
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shinobium yeah06:50
JucatoI just forgot which tab in System Settings does that06:50
shinobibut i want it to be an object06:50
PiRhi06:50
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shinobii use the mouse buttons for other stuff otherwise06:50
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dudejucato: have you seen it?06:51
Jucatodude: yep06:51
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dudejende: what do you think happned to my box?06:51
TheGateKeeperdude: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories06:51
Jucatodude: add the word "multiverse" at the end of the "deb http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"06:51
shefti still cant get that button to my panel... http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ggpg3.jpg06:51
shinobii customized the mouse buttons heavily already and the keyboard does all funky things at last. but this k menu thing is bugging me06:51
PiRI'd know which version is my package Qt but i don't know how ! my package : libqt4-dev - Qt 4 development files06:51
dudeok06:51
Jucatoomg! I just noticed you're from the Philippines :)06:51
sheftphilippines for the win. im going there after x-mas for a couple of months :P06:52
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Jucatosheft: really? visiting someone?06:53
jendedude: I've just fixed your sources http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27105/06:53
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jendedude: I hope you'll see the diffrence - you hadn't had the multiverse part in it06:53
sheftJucato: no, to get out of sweden. need some time alone.. and... vacation :)06:53
Jucatooh heheh06:53
sheftand... party :)06:53
hannaaHello! Is it ok to post a question regarding Kubuntu here?06:54
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Jucatolol06:54
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jendeJucato: dude hadn't had the multiverse section in it06:54
Jucatojende: hm.. scroll up? :P06:54
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dudeok06:54
dudetnx06:54
LjLhannaa, yes.06:54
ricaneliteHello all!!06:54
jendehannaa: sure is, that's why its the kubuntu channel06:54
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jendeJucato: ooops...didn't get that bit...i need coffee06:55
edwin_hi06:55
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PiRnobody for my question ?06:55
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jendedude: now try to install the extracodecs again06:55
jendePiR: what question?06:55
LjLPiR: i didn't understand your question06:55
hannaaNice. I just installed kubuntu today, and everything worked real nice. then I attempded some updates to v355 and kernel updates.. now I cannot use the auto-updater or the adept, they claim that some other process is using the packaging system.. what to do?06:56
LjL!adept-crash-fix06:56
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"06:56
PiRI've a package for the library Qt (C++)06:57
_morphiushow can I find the size of a raw (unpartitioned) disk?06:57
PiRBut I don't know the version of this package06:57
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jendehannaa: to get a console you have to press ALT+F206:57
LjL_morphius: in many ways i suppose, but for instance, cfdisk tells you06:57
jendeand the type in commandline konsole06:57
_morphiusCTRL+ALT+F206:57
_morphiusBut not with kubuntu06:57
PiRit is Qt4 but Qt4.0.0 or Qt4.2.0 ?06:57
LjLPiR: to know what version of a package you have installed, you can type "apt-cache policy <packagename>"06:58
PiRok tkanks06:58
hannaaok.. the console seems to be in action now, installing and so on..06:58
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shinobiin kubuntu alt f2 and type konsole for konsole06:58
jendehannaa: good, keep us updated if the problem got solved06:59
_morphiusLjL: I really need something I can grep. I am doing scripting. Any other suggestions?06:59
hannaasure thing!06:59
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LjL_morphius: fdisk06:59
LjL_morphius: fdisk -l that is06:59
jende_morphius: man fdisk06:59
shinobito avoid those seize ups it seems synaptic is better because adept and adept updater don't show you when an install needs attention and fails instead06:59
gragusais anybody on edgy-eft on an ibm thinkpad (x40)07:00
_morphiusso how can I convert from blocks to MB07:00
hannaayup! the updater works, thanks ubotu!07:00
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LjL_morphius: it gives me bytes gere07:00
LjLhere07:00
LjL_morphius: Disk /dev/hda: 163.9 GB, 163928604672 bytes07:00
hannaanow to the next question.. :)07:00
jendeLjL: same here07:00
jendehannaa: yep...07:00
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jendedude: did it work?07:01
hannaawhen I click the system menu, down left, i get "twins" of all locations, for example 2 home folders.. what's that about?07:01
dudejende: my adept manager won't open07:01
_morphiusljl: I get:  /dev/hda1   *           1        2433    19543041    7  HPFS/NTFS07:01
jendedude: do it on a console07:01
LjL_morphius: but that's a single partition. you asked about the entire, raw disk07:02
harmentalhow to open a port in kubuntu?07:02
jende!adept-crash-fix07:02
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"07:02
dudejende: whats the command07:02
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_morphiusright.07:02
dudesudo what?07:02
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jendedude: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:02
shinobiyeah but in a console it sucks sometimes synaptic is good unless you get the lock ups...i like gui on some stuff07:02
LjL_morphius: if you want to know about single partitions, you don't even need fdisk, just use df07:03
dudei have to reboot, tnx07:03
jendedude: why?07:03
_morphiusOK. That will work. Thanks ljl07:03
dudejende: its telling me that adept is running07:03
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dudejende: but theres no icon that indicates adept is running07:04
jendedude: okay then, keep rockin'07:04
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Jucatodude: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"07:04
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dudejucato: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process07:05
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jendedude:07:05
jende!adept-cras-fix07:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-cras-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:05
jende!adept-crash-fix07:05
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"07:05
jendedude: do that ^^^^^^^^^07:05
dudek07:05
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dudeE: Type '01.' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list07:07
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dude01. deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main07:07
jendedude: might be true uncomment it with a hash#07:07
Jucatodude: ugh... you copied the line numbers..07:07
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Jucatojende: he also copied the line numbers from pastebin07:08
dude:)07:08
dudesorry07:08
jendeJucato: Jesus07:08
dudemy mistake07:08
Jucatonah. it's the copy-paste mentality at work :)07:08
dude:)07:08
dudeslow07:08
jendeJucato: that again is true07:09
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jendeJucato: back in a min need my coffee07:09
dudejucato: should i romve the line #s?07:09
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Jucatodude: yes07:09
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shinobicopy paste is not evil no?07:09
Jucatolines in sources.list should only start with "deb","deb-src", or "#" (hash mark/comments)07:10
jendeJucato: I'm back with a nice mug of coffee...yummie07:10
Jucatoheh I need to get me some OJ07:10
jendeJucato: you better do that...*g*07:11
cpk2coffee ugh07:11
cpk2evil07:11
jendecpk2: its not07:11
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cpk2i remember when i worked at an eletronics manufacturer I would choke that stuff down so I wouldnt fall asleep working07:12
cpk2its bad to start dozing off when soldering07:12
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dudejucato: Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:13
cpk2!info libxine-extracodecs07:13
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB07:13
cpk2and with that time for class07:13
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wildchild!wmware07:14
jendedude: pastebin the whole output07:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:14
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Jucato!vmware07:14
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ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare07:14
Jucatowildchild: ^^^^07:14
wildchildtnx07:14
dudejucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2710607:15
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dudejende: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2710607:16
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Jucatohm... interesting... I'm clueless :)07:17
jendedude: I'm surprised that you did get such a bad result07:17
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jendeJucato: he doesn't have to have xine installed, does he?07:17
Jucatodude: if it's not too much to ask, could you pastebin your sources.list again?07:17
Jucatojende: afaik, no07:17
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Jucatoer dude, btw, did you do "sudo apt-get update" first?07:18
dudejucatu: sure07:18
Jucatoafter changing your sources.list and before trying to install libxine-extracodecs?07:18
jendeJucato: maybe even before you're doing an apt-get update make an apt-get clean07:18
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Jucatodude: did you do "sudo apt-get update" before "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" ?07:19
jendedude:  maybe even before you're doing an apt-get update make an apt-get clean07:19
Jucato"sudo apt-get clean"07:19
jendeJucato: true, I mostly assume that people know that07:20
Jucatoheh07:20
jendedude: ???are you still with us?07:21
Jucatodude, where's my car?07:21
Jucato:)07:21
Jucatosorry, I just had to say that :P07:21
jendeJucato: it's here07:21
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jendeJucato: see you in a lil while; have to head off to the supermarket to get some food...*g*07:22
Jucatoerr...07:22
Jucatoyou're leaving me alone...07:22
JucatoI'll be gone in a few minutes as well... it's almost 1:30am...07:22
jendeJucato: will be back in lets say 15mins07:22
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Jucatoah ok. I'll wait then. we can't leave the channel orphaned :P07:22
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jendeJucato: thanx mate07:22
Jucatohm.. dude_ ? are you dude?07:23
dude_yes07:23
Jucatowhat happened?07:23
dude_discon07:23
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Jucatooh07:23
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yacoobAs noone in #ubuntu is able to answer - does [k] ubuntu install iso supports lvm?07:24
Jucatoyacoob: which Install ISO? Desktop (Live CD) or Alternate Install CD?07:25
domlyacoob, iirc, you can do it from the alternate install07:25
yacoobThe first one.07:25
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dude_jucato: whats wrong with my sources.kist07:25
Jucatoyacoob: then no. only the Alternate Install (text based) CD has LVM07:25
dude_jucato: whats wrong with my sources.list07:25
SBladecan someone help me with a little problem i have with an NV18 class card, the nvidia driver, and X11?07:26
yacoobI already have a disk full of lvm volumes, and I'd rather use it, than have to backup ~80GB of stuff :)07:26
Jucatodude_: did you do "sudo apt-get update" first before trying to install libxine-extracodecs?07:26
yacoobJucato, allrighto. Download time :)07:26
dude_jucato: i did07:26
yacoob(aw, and I thought this nice and shiny gift from a friend would do. No worries... :)07:26
Jucatodude_: can you post your sources.list again?07:27
dude_k07:27
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dude_jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2711207:28
letalishas anyone had issues getting a cdrom drive to work properly in a chroot?07:28
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mini_gwhat is the command to reset the lock on apt-get?07:28
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Jucatomini_g: sudo dpkg --configure -a07:29
Jucatodude_: you didn't add "multiverse" to this line: "deb http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"07:29
T3hWiz0rdso whats going on in here eh?07:29
yacoobbut in the meantime, I can do a test instalation to see whether I like kubuntu or not :)07:29
dude_ok07:29
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Jucatodude_: just add "multiverse" at the end. do not replace "multiverse"07:30
mini_gjucato it didn't work07:30
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Jucatomini_g: what error message are you getting?07:30
Jucatomini_g: basically, what happened?07:31
mini_gdpkg: status database area is locked by another process07:31
Jucato!adept-crash-fix07:31
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"07:31
Jucatomini_g: try that ^^^^^07:31
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mini_gcool, thanks07:32
mini_g(works)07:32
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wildchild!wine07:33
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:33
dude_jucato: at last, tnx : )07:33
Jucatowhy hate it? it's a nice media player :P07:33
Jucatodude_: whew!! glad to hear that :)07:33
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dude_jucato: question, what is your assesment with my box that didn't boot?07:34
Jucatodude_: not really sure. didn't hear your full story abou it07:34
Jucatos/abou/about07:35
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dude_jucato: its just that my box didn't boot: "no boot device detected"07:35
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Jucatodude_: you were able to get past the GRUB menu?07:36
dude_jucatu: nop07:36
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xstHow do I use my webcam in an MSN chat? I can see that it works in Configure>Devices, but nothing happens when I press "send webcam" in the chat window. And when I exit the configuration window, my webcam seems to turn off (its little led is turning off). What to do?07:36
dude_jucatu: just plain message07:37
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Jucatodude_: hm... not really sure what happened then. sorry07:37
dude_jucato: maybe the boot loader07:37
dude_!java07:37
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ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:37
Jucatomost probably.07:37
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dude_jucato: im still thinking about beryl, what is your suggestion?07:39
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Jucatoerr... no suggestion.haven't used it07:39
dude_jucato: ok, tnx07:39
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jendeJucato: I'm back07:40
Jucatooh there yay!!07:40
dude_jucato: how about ftp application? can you suggest a cool ftp app07:41
Jucatonow I can get to sleep and hope my flu goes away when I wake up...07:41
jendeJucato: I've been speeding like hell07:41
Jucatodude_: konqueror :)07:41
Jucatojende: oh no...  :(07:41
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Jucatojende: btw, libxine-extracodecs successfully installed :)07:41
jendeJucato: thats okay at this time there no cops around07:41
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jendeJucato: thats good07:41
dude_jende: ya, tnx07:41
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jendeJucato: any other issues so far you've been workung on and I should take care of?07:42
jendedude_: for ftp-upload I prefer krusader07:42
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Jucato!krusader07:42
ubotukrusader: Twin-panel (commander-style) File Manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.60.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1940 kB, installed size 5280 kB07:42
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dude_download/upload?07:42
Jucatoalthough you could also use Konqueror and just split the view :)07:42
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Jucatoboth07:43
jendedude_: sudo apt-get install krusader07:43
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jendeJucato: mate, go to bed...07:43
Jucatoheh I will. just a few more feeds to read07:44
ejsmy firefox freeze suddenly07:44
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ejswhat am i supose to do07:44
dude_jende: its like windows when it crash, you to install evrything again07:44
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dude_jende: its like windows when it crash, you have to install evrything again07:44
jendeejs: how does it freeze?07:44
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ejsi just open friendster.com but it does have alot css and music and video in it07:46
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Jucatough!!!07:46
ejsit just freeze wont be shut07:46
JucatoFriendster, the site I love to hate...07:46
jendeejs: to be honest I hate such sites07:46
ejsi know07:46
Jucatoejs: Ctrl+Esc will bring up the System Monitor (ala Task Manager)07:46
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Jucatojende: honestly, I do too. except that I have some friends/neighbors who adore it. so I take advantage of the network (specially the blog part)07:47
dude_what is the command if i have installed the right video card driver?07:47
jendeejs: are you on dapper or on edgy?07:47
Jucatodude_: depends on what video card you have07:48
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jendedude_: depends...07:48
dude_nvidia07:48
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larson9999how is kde 3.5.5? should i upgrade?07:49
Jucatook, I'm outta here! :)07:49
dude_jende: have you tried beryl?07:49
jende!nvidia07:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:49
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Jucatonight jende :)07:49
dude_tnx jucato07:49
ejshow do i do to known which repo i use ?07:49
Jucatodude_: night! :)07:49
dude_nyt..07:49
jendeJucato: sleep well ang get healthy soon07:49
Jucatothanks07:49
jendeJucato: sleep well and get healthy soon07:49
abattoirnight Jucato07:49
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jendeJucato: see ya tomorrow?07:50
abattoirjende: yeah, he'll be back, don't worry ;)07:50
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ejsmine in uname -a PREEMPT07:50
jendeejs: sudo less /etc/apt/sources.list07:50
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dude_jende: have you tried beryl?07:51
jendedude_: nope, I friend of mine did and his system crashed07:51
DaSkreechnikkiana: Hmm strange07:51
jendedude_: nope, a friend of mine did and his system crashed07:51
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nikkianaDaSkreech: huh?07:51
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dude_jende: ok...how about 3d testing, is there a command?07:51
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jendedude_: dunno, really07:52
ejsi saw dapper when i do that07:52
dude_!3d07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
yacoobOhboy!07:52
dude_!3D07:52
yacoobRalink configuration hell! Welcome back!07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
jendeejs: nothing but the dapper repos?07:52
jendeyacoob: whats the prob with ralink?07:53
letalisdoes the kernel that comes stock with ubuntu have nvidias fb device compiled in by default?07:53
yacoobjende, doesn't work out of the box, and I fail to remember how I played it out in debian :)07:53
yacoob(plus, I moved from wpa to wpa2, and rt2500.o doesn't support that, AFAIR)07:54
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ejsthere'all commented with #07:54
ibertAnybody knows how to get olsr running on kubuntu?07:54
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jendeyacoob: well wpa2 wont be supported by an2500, thats true07:54
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DaSkreechnikkiana: I went away and came back and your name was on the  input line07:54
ejsmine exist only dapper07:54
DaSkreechApparetnly I had something to say to you or I was thining about you :()07:54
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nikkianaDaSkreech: ahhh :)07:54
jendeyacoob: need a howto to get it running?07:55
yacoobjende, even with ndiswrapper?07:55
yacoobjende, well, if it's only wpa, I can work it out07:55
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yacoobI'd need to poke my router first :)07:55
jendeyacoob: with ndiswrapper it should work, but the rt2500 should work even without ndiswrapper07:55
jendeyacoob: but not with wpa207:55
yacoobrighto.07:56
yacoobLets try ndiswrapper and learn something new ;)07:56
jendeejs: post your sources.list to pastebin07:56
jende!pastebin07:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:56
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jendedude_: I couldn't find anything in my books to test3D, sorry07:56
jendeejs: will you do that?07:57
dude_jende: ok tnx07:57
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DaSkreechnikkiana: For the life of me I can't remember what it was though07:57
jendedude_: no worries07:57
micraHi, I'm a complete newbie at Kubuntu and Linux. I have 2 sound cards in my computer, how do I switch between them?07:57
yacoobjende, does the howto says about ndiswrapper? if yes, then I'll ask for the url please :)07:57
DaSkreechmicra: I keep asking that as well07:57
micraOkay, noone knows?07:57
jendeyacoob: hold on, will check my linklist for ya07:57
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micrano one*07:58
ejs!pastebin07:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:58
DaSkreechmicra: I'm going to jump into #kde and see if i can find out07:58
ejs!pastebin07:58
ejsdeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted07:59
ejsdeb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted07:59
micraOkay, thanks07:59
ejs## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the07:59
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ejs## distribution.07:59
ejsdeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted07:59
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ejsdeb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted07:59
ejs## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'07:59
ejs## repository.07:59
ejs## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu07:59
ejs## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to07:59
ejs## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in07:59
ejs## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security07:59
ejs## team.07:59
ejs# deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe07:59
ejs# deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe07:59
ejs## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'08:00
DaSkreechejs:  Stopit!!08:00
ejs## repository.08:00
ejs## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as08:00
jendeejs: what the hell08:00
ejs## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes08:00
ejs## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.08:00
Martijn81ejs: cut it please08:00
jendeejs: I told you to pastebin it08:00
ejs## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review08:00
ejs## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.08:00
ejs# deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse08:00
ejs# deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse08:00
ejsdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted08:00
ejsdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted08:00
ejs# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe08:00
ejs# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe08:00
ejssorry08:00
ejsi must wrongly paste08:00
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ejssorry to all08:00
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fdoving:)08:00
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jendeyacoob: that's a good howto I guess, if not get back ti me, okay08:01
jendeyacoob: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3192608:01
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jendeejs: so, just pastebin it08:01
jende!pastebi08:01
jende!pastebin08:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:01
yacoobthanks :>08:01
jende!pastebin08:01
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jendeejs: ^^^^^^^^08:01
ejssorry mates08:02
jendeejs: so, will you pastebin it now?08:02
ejsi have post it08:02
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DaSkreechejs: Use pastebin and give us teh URL that it returns08:02
jendeejs: where is the link, though08:02
ejs!pastebin08:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:03
DaSkreechcopy and paste the address in the address bar08:03
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jendeyacoob: is the howto alright for ya?08:03
ejshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27113/08:03
DaSkreechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27113/08:04
DaSkreechRIght Like that :)08:04
DaSkreechthanks08:04
jendeDaSkreech: will you modify it or should I go ahead08:04
yacoobjende, think so. Will have to adjust for chipset (ralink, not broadcom) but I remember I played with it already.08:04
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DaSkreechjende: I don't know waht the issue is08:04
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yacoobit's just I falled back to wpa then. When I tried osx (aka hackintosh :) it worked only with wpa2, so I pitched up ;)08:05
jendeDaSkreech: ejs wants to have universe multiverse in the sources - so 'll modify it quickly08:05
DaSkreechOk08:05
JosefKheh, and network-manager updates in Edgy can unexpectedly shut down your net ;)08:05
DaSkreechejs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27115/08:06
DaSkreechUes that08:06
DaSkreechUse08:06
jendeejs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27116/08:07
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DaSkreechOr that :)08:08
jendeDaSkreech: ;-)08:08
jendeejs: BUT don't paste&copy the line numbers08:08
DaSkreechuse /plain08:08
DaSkreechejs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27115/plain08:08
jendeejs: each line hast to start with deb or a hash #08:09
DaSkreechNot true08:09
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jendeejs: or use the plain version08:09
DaSkreechit can start with deb-src08:09
DaSkreech:)08:09
JosefKtest using dcop08:09
JosefKwoot :)08:09
jendeDaSkreech: but deb-src starts with deb...doesn't it08:09
ejsokey08:10
DaSkreechSo I can type debra ?08:10
jendeejs: you know what to do now?08:10
jendeDaSkreech: ahhhhhhhhhhh08:10
ejsstable an testing from debian can use too ?:08:10
DaSkreechHeeheehee08:10
jendeDaSkreech: grrrrrrrrrr08:10
jendeejs: no08:10
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jendeejs: after you have modfied your sources.list as SUDO, you will have to make a: "sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"08:12
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kubuntuwie heisst eigentlich der deutsche kubuntu channel?08:13
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LjL!de08:13
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:13
ejsyup08:13
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jendeejs: done that?08:14
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ejsthere are err in repo08:15
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jendeejs: like what?08:15
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ejsam i suppose to delete rc from th repos in the 1'st line08:16
ejsE: Type 'rc' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list08:16
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PiRhello08:17
jendeejs: well you've deletetd to much08:17
PiRis it normal, the Qt installation takes more than 1 hours ? o_O08:17
jendeejs: pastebin your sources once more if its possible for you08:17
LjLPiR: what do you mean with "qt installation"?08:17
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PiRI've downloaded the QT4.2.0 library sources08:18
PiRand i've made ./configure08:18
PiRnext i've typed make08:19
jendePiR: that'll take quite a while, yes08:19
PiRand 1 hours ago08:19
jendeejs: hello?08:19
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LjLPiR: good luck...08:19
robin_i have mounted my xp partition but it keeps saying i dont have rights to view when i try to access, any idea's?08:20
LjLPiR: note that 4.2.0 is in Edgy, so perhaps you could just wait until it's out? (i.e. couple of days)08:20
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Heavenquakei am having trouble with wireless in kubuntu, after some struggle i am now able to see the wanted network on the list in both KNetworkmanager and wlassistant. But when i try to connect, i fail. KNetworkmanager fails after 28% : configuring unit. i am from Windows now, so i would like some hints to what i should do when i reboot in kubuntu08:21
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DaSkreechmicra: Apparetnly as it stands now it's done on a perapplication basis08:21
DaSkreech!wireless08:21
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:21
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jendeejs: Ping!08:22
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jenderobin_: have a look at:08:22
jende!mount08:22
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks08:22
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jendeor08:22
jende!mnt08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mnt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
jendeon a console type: man mount08:23
jenderobin_: did you get that?08:23
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slow-motionhallo08:25
jendeslow-motion: Hi08:25
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slow-motionhi jende08:25
morghanphoenixDon't suppose anyone happens to know what path hold my kubuntu passwords, mail and other personal data?08:27
PiRLjL : Edgy is in devlopment, isn't it ?08:27
jendePiR: yes08:27
morghanphoenixfor another 9 days08:27
PiRah ? good08:28
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morghanphoenixIt is the 26th, yes?08:28
jendePiR: duuno if LjL will agree, but I think its already quite stable08:28
jendemorghanphoenix: yep, its the 26th08:28
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DaSkreechYes I do smoke crack why do you ask?08:28
dude!java08:29
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository08:29
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jendedude: are you familiar with "apt"?08:29
PiRthe update is possible ? Or will i must all reinstall ?08:29
jendePiR: it'll be a simple upgrade08:30
PiRtkanks08:30
jendePiR: no worries08:30
T3hWiz0rdis there a way to terminate a users session via konsole?08:30
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jendedude: so, are you failiar with "apt" or not?08:30
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cellofellowT3hWiz0rd: You can kill the X server running on their terminal and that logs them off.08:31
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wildchildat the beginnig of setup process I was asked: n which directory do you want to install the binary files? (next line):[/usr/bin] 08:31
dudejende: getting the hang of it08:31
ejsjende08:31
wildchildI am installing vmware08:31
jendedude: why?08:31
dudejende: how do i enable my instlled jre08:31
ejsihave apt-get install but not the dist-upgrade08:32
T3hWiz0rdcellofellow: how?08:32
salvowww.google.it08:32
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jendedude: ??? what dou mean???08:32
cellofellowT3hWiz0rd: ps -A | grep X to find the process number, then sudo kill number08:32
TheGateKeeperdude: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox08:32
dudejende: i installed JRE so that frostwire can run08:32
jendeejs: simply do it as I said sudo apt-get updare && apt-get dist-upgrade08:32
ejsi think i will have to  reboot so its better to called it a day :)08:33
steveireAre there obscure proxy settings I don't know about? I don't use a proxy at home, but when I bring my laptop into college and want to use a K app like kontact or konqueror I have to go into settings, proxy etc. I'd like that if network-manager connects to ESSID"collegenetwork", it would apply "proxy.college.com:8888"08:33
steveireautomatically that is...08:33
jendeTheGateKeeper: howdy08:33
TheGateKeeperjende: hiya08:34
jendeejs: you dont have to reboot; its not a redmond infected system08:34
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TheGateKeeperlol08:34
jendeTheGateKeeper: why do people always want to reboot their system?08:34
jendeTheGateKeeper: I just don't get it08:35
TheGateKeeperjende: M$ conditioning08:35
jendeTheGateKeeper: ah well, iit seem to be that that crap is as worth as heroine is08:35
TheGateKeeperjende: cos if you doing anything with windows you need to reboot08:35
jendeTheGateKeeper: I remember that, but thats like ages ago08:35
TheGateKeeperjende: seems to be as addictive lol08:36
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dudejende: what is nvidia beta?08:36
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_morphiusTheGateKeeper: It's not just that. PEBCAKS don't want to have to learn how to restart a service and crap like that, so re-booting is easier.08:36
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TheGateKeeperjende: you still get updates that insist on a reboot from time to time08:36
jende_morphius: damn right you are08:36
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_morphiusTheGateKeeper: Those are kernel updates08:37
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TheGateKeeperjende: yep that is also true08:37
jendeTheGateKeeper: sure, but these are the only updates I knonw of when you have to reboot08:37
TheGateKeeper_morphius: with windows not sure if that is always true08:37
jendedude: what do you think beta means?08:37
dudejende: ok08:38
jendedude: it is not stable, it is in testing or experimental - as a newbie keep your fingers of stuff like that08:38
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TheGateKeeperwindows is getting a little better with their reboots but no much08:38
dudejende: so how should i know if i installed the right video card driver ?08:39
cellofellowdude: unless it's a Google beta. :D08:39
dude:)08:39
jendedude: as long as it works08:39
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TheGateKeeperjende: you have a lovely 'turn of phrase' lol08:39
jendeTheGateKeeper: what do you mean?08:40
dude!nvidia08:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:40
TheGateKeeperjende:  keep your fingers of stuff like that <-- I like that :-)08:40
jendeTheGateKeeper: was it toooooooooooooo bad?08:40
jende:-(08:40
TheGateKeeperjende: no amusing08:40
steveirewho can tell me what iptables are?08:41
jendesteveire: google08:41
ibertsteveire: it's an firewall08:41
wildchildsteveire > network configuration08:41
TheGateKeepersteveire: linux firewall is the easiest way to explain what they are08:41
fdovingsteveire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iptables08:42
TheGateKeepersteveire: there are gui frontends for them08:42
steveireI think someone on #ubuntu said they were a way to get around my proxy issue, but he didn't expand on it.08:42
steveireAre there obscure proxy settings I don't know about? I don't use a proxy at home, but when I bring my laptop into college and want to use a K app like kontact or konqueror I have to go into settings, proxy etc. I'd like that if network-manager connects to ESSID"collegenetwork", it would apply "proxy.college.com:8888" automatically08:42
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steveireIf that's possible with iptables, could you let me know?08:43
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jendesteveire: iptables is, as said a firewall, so I guess that iptables wont solve your proxy issues08:43
steveireI guess my issue is more one of automation than a proxy issue really. Is it possible?08:44
fdovingsteveire: you can actually use iptables to 'catch' all http connections, and force them through a proxy, might be exactly what you want.08:44
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steveirefdoving: Can it be done only when I connect to 'collegenet' and not 'homeNet'?08:45
jendefdoving: you're right that might be a way for him; I forgot about that08:45
fdovingsteveire: that should be possible.08:45
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jendesteveire: the manpages shoult tell you more08:46
jendesteveire: man iptables08:46
ejsi have upgrade my ubuntu08:46
wildchildI've installed vmwplayer, why I can't install .exe files..08:46
steveireman:/iptables08:46
fdovingsteveire: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/TransparentProxy.html#s508:47
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jendesteveire: just "man iptables"08:47
jendeejs: and?08:47
ejsbut the firefox still freeze if i open friendster.com with lots css video and music08:47
steveirejende: I mean you can use konqueror to see man pages.08:47
fdovingjende: man:/iptables is nicer than the konsole way :)08:48
jendeejs: hmmm...might be worth havin a chat in a FF channel or forum08:48
steveirethanks for the link fdoving, but I don't think that's a per network setting.08:48
jendefdoving: I'm oldschool, sorry08:48
BluesKajjende, Ihave some progs that won't run on my hardware so i need to uninstall them but they aren't listed in adept ...what's the command line uninstall procedure ?08:49
fdovingsteveire: you'll have to run that command when connecting to the college network, and then flush the iptables rules when disconnecting.08:49
jendeBluesKaj: sudo apt-get remove <filename>08:49
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steveirefdoving: Can it be automated? Otherwise I don't see the point.08:49
BluesKajremove ...that's it thx , jende08:49
jendeBluesKaj: *ggg*08:50
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jendeejs: have you made a memtest?08:51
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TheGateKeeperBluesKaj: you might also want to use debophan but *use with care*08:51
jendeejs: and if you do make it, let it run for a few hours08:51
jendeTheGateKeeper: deborphan...huh...he really should use that with a lot of care08:52
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jendeBluesKaj: but aptitude might be nice08:53
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fdovingsteveire: it's linux, everything can be automated. :)08:53
steveireOk, can you tell me where to start finding out how? I'm really surprised this hasn't come up before.08:54
TheGateKeeperjende: true I have never really trusted it08:54
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glskhello folks08:55
glskI cant safely remove my usb stick08:55
jendeTheGateKeeper: a client of mine played once on Deb Sarge with it...hehe...was agood job afterwards for me to get the system back to work08:55
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glskI need to umount drive manually08:55
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glskwhy?08:55
rootjende: my xwindow crashes again :)08:56
TheGateKeeperjende: :-)08:56
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buzglsk: what do you mean? what happens if you hit safely remove08:56
glskbuz: nothing08:56
buzi dont think it is supposed to unmount it, just sync it08:56
buzif theres a lot in the cache, safely remove takes a long time for me08:57
glskbuz: it worked before08:57
dudejende; how do i restore x window?08:57
buzafter that the data is saved for me08:57
morghanphoenixI manage to have quite a few sdas hanging around if I don't manually mount my usb drives.08:57
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jendedude: restore or restart?08:57
LjLjenda, it's the #ubuntu+1 *channel topic* that says edgy isn't stable, not me.08:57
TheGateKeeperjende: you've been linux using for a long time?08:57
buzLjL: it mostly isnt stable ;)08:57
dudejende: resatart08:57
jendeTheGateKeeper: I had a break in my ***IX time, as I had a burnout08:58
jendeTheGateKeeper: I was for more than 2yrs in Aussie and worked on a farm08:58
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TheGateKeeperahhh08:58
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jendeTheGateKeeper: buut I'm back since last year and I'm back in the ***IX world...hehe....08:59
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TheGateKeeperhehe08:59
killer_why is konqueror broken? I cannot change user agent, ... it can access the panel to change it but it does not save08:59
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dudejende:08:59
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jendedude: start x08:59
dudewhere should i type that, im using irss09:00
nawolfeis it possible to install a .deb from a non-root account (install it in my home dir)?09:00
glskbuz: 1. umount /dev/sdb1 && sync ??09:00
glskis it enough?09:00
buzumount itself should be enough09:00
glsk*enought?09:00
jendedude: on a console type: sudo start x09:00
glskoh okay09:00
glskthanks09:00
cpk2hehe just rm -r * a pretty big directory =P09:00
dudejemde: there's no console09:00
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cpk2still going...09:01
jendedude: serously?09:01
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buzcpk2: relax, i trashed the partition with my home dir last week ;)09:01
buz(unless you dont have backups, then scream ;)09:01
cpk2this is just a samba partition09:02
buzyour boss' homedir ;)09:02
dudejende: im serious,  x window won't start, so i choose recovery mode09:02
cpk2takes forever to rm stuff though09:02
dudejende: then irss09:02
killer_I can change Browser Agent if I "sudo konqueror" , but this is a real joy.. the thought of web browsing as root.. I think not09:02
cpk2rm -r * feels good when you do it =D09:03
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cpk2especially from a root loging *nothing* escapes09:03
cpk2login even09:03
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LjLcpk2, you know you shouldn't type that... people can and would actually try it out09:03
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wildchildtralala, what does vmware player? (I wanna on my linux some windows program running)09:04
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cpk2I wasnt suggesting...09:04
jendedude: what do you need irss for?09:04
cpk2note to anyone paying attention: dont do rm -r * unless you know what you are doing09:04
fdovingsteveire: my suggestion was plain stupid. it would create a loop since it's just one computer. you can stop reading iptables stuff. what browser do you use?09:05
jendeLjL: shouldn't people know what "-r" means?09:05
LjLi know you weren't, but you know people are curious :)09:05
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morghanphoenixwhat is the -r tag for?09:05
cpk2recursive09:05
LjLjende: they should. in a perfect world, they'd just type "man rm" and find out, but in *this* world, some of them are likely to just type that command to see what it does09:05
jende-r = recursive09:05
cpk2means it will remove non empty directories09:05
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jendeLjL: they'll have fun afterwards, wont they?09:06
cpk2well in a home directory it will do some very bad things09:06
jendecpk2: I know that, I was just kidding09:06
jendeLjL: sorry for that09:06
LjLjende: depends on one's concept of fun i suppose!09:06
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jendeLjL: I'm quite sarcastic, as you could see09:07
cpk2=( sometime overnight the ubuntu server iso i was downloading stopped09:07
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cpk2I have a .part file with only 76 megs09:08
keynehi guys09:08
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jendecpk2: why is that?09:08
cpk2hrmm I suppose I should just wait for edgy anyways09:09
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jendecpk2: oh, I see cause of that .part file, I guess09:09
keynethe bouncing cursor is driving crazy ? how to disable it on edgy ? (Seems like the Panel section in the System settings is gone...)09:09
cpk2waiting until the end of the month will give me time to figure out how I want to set up my lamp exactly09:09
cellofellowkeyne: just use kcontrol09:09
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blueyedHi! Does anyone know what the "Hibernate" and "Suspend" buttons execute/do in the "Log out..." dialog in Edgy?09:09
keyneah ok, thanks09:09
BluesKaji guess usr/bin files are inaccessible for removal ...correct ?09:10
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dudepls help me, i cn't start x window09:10
jendedude: what do you need irss for?09:10
wildchild!wine09:10
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:10
dudejende: to get some help09:10
BluesKajhave you tried startx ?09:10
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dudebluesKaj: yes, no screen detected09:11
jendedude: okay, so far09:11
BluesKajouch09:11
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dudebluesKaj: :(09:11
jendedude: so, you said, you're in the recovery mode, riht?09:12
jendedude: so, you said, you're in the recovery mode, right?09:12
dudeya09:12
jendedude: well, you're logged in as root?09:12
cpk2oh guess it finished after all didnt refresh konq to show upated info in my home09:12
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dudeyes09:12
jendeall drives are mounted?have you checked that?09:13
killer_where are the konqueror settings .. I need to UN-set them from ROOT-ONLY write09:13
jendedude: just type "mount"09:13
dudewhere should i type mount?09:13
jendedude at the prompt09:14
dudethers no console09:14
dudeno prompt09:14
jendedude: what do you have?09:14
dudejust plain txt09:14
jendedude: give me like 3 mins I'll be back by then, okay!Just wanna try something for you09:15
dudeok09:15
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dudetnx09:15
PiRQt is installing 2hours ago now ! o_O I don't understand this low speed09:15
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aethereh, My bob marley albums (33) have been transfering from my step dads hdd for the last 4 hours still has another 9 to go09:16
morghanphoenixAren't dead x-servers fun?09:16
AbbyCan I get Firefox or Gaim on Kubuntu without manually installing them?09:16
trym|workwhen I did dist-upgrade to edgy.. my win button on the keyboard does no longer work.. any ideas how to fix it ?09:17
morghanphoenixfirefox should allready be there09:17
morghanphoenixIt's not on yours?09:17
HawkwindAbby: sudo apt-get install firefox gaim09:17
fdovingAbby: yes, you can find them in adept. 'kmenu -> system -> adept'09:17
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Abbyit's greyed out. I can't install it. And I can't seem to find it if it's installed09:17
HawkwindAbby: You can get most any package you want.  Though you will find some that aren't in the repos, but it's difficult to find those that aren't09:18
morghanphoenixwell, the command line thing should work09:18
HawkwindAbby: You need to enable universe and multiverse09:18
HawkwindThough firefox is actually in main, so you should be able to install it09:18
morghanphoenixAnd there's Kopete09:19
morghanphoenixsame job as gaim09:19
BluesKajaMSN works well too09:19
Abbyhow do I add repositories in Kubuntu? I've only used Ubuntu with gnome before and this feels very foriegn XD09:19
HawkwindIMO gaim is much better than kopete and amsn or any others09:19
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Hawkwind!repos > Abby09:19
morghanphoenixBut kopete should allready be there09:19
Hawkwindmorghanphoenix: But they want Gaim.  Tis their choice :)09:20
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morghanphoenixJust stating it in case they didn't know what kopete was.09:20
morghanphoenixSome people don't know anything other than gaim09:20
morghanphoenixit does, after all, work well in windows.09:21
Abbyindeed. This is an install for a user that's never even heard of Linux before for the three weeks between Windows foobarring and a new computer. XD I need it to feel the most like windows I can.09:21
granbarHey there. I'm having some trouble connecting to my wireless network.09:21
morghanphoenixThen gaim it is, although that's the main reason I don't use it.09:22
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granbarDoes anybody know why I both have wlan0 and wmaster0 ?09:22
morghanphoenixEver seen XPde?09:22
BluesKajAbby: yeah it's a slow process rtemoving windows habits09:22
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morghanphoenixNow that's creepy!09:22
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morghanphoenixLooks just like winXP09:23
wildchilddoes anyone here use wine?09:23
wildchildif so, please paste repo09:23
morghanphoenixIf I could get it to work09:23
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morghanphoenix!source-o-matic09:23
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:23
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morghanphoenixhas wine09:23
cpk2wildchild: get the wine repo from winehq09:23
Hawkwind# Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)09:23
Hawkwind#deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main09:23
Hawkwindwildchild: ^^^^^^^^^^09:23
Hawkwindwildchild: Is that what you need/want ?09:24
wildchildyes09:24
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jendeBluesKaj: do you know if anyone could help "dude"?09:24
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BluesKajHawkwind would be our best bet i think ..he sems to be very knowledgeable and helpful in my expereience09:25
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wildchilddamn, wine only works on 32bits..09:25
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Hawkwindwildchild: You can install the 32bit version in a 64bit environment and use it09:26
qihuahhhhhhhh09:26
HawkwindBluesKaj: What's the problem/issue ?09:26
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jhutchins_wkOk, I've booted to Mandriva One, and same problem with that audio stream (http://129.237.213.240/asxgen/wmtencoder/kpr2.wma)09:27
BluesKajwildchild , I switched from 64 bits to 32 cuz alotta progs wouldn't run09:27
jhutchins_wkSo it's not kubuntu.09:27
root__jende: are you there09:27
root__?09:27
jenderoot__: yep09:27
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dudebad day for me09:27
wildchild[21:26]  <Hawkwind> wildchild: You can install the 32bit version in a 64bit environment and use it  <-How can I do that o:O09:27
jendedude: are you still having your plain text screen?09:27
BluesKajHawkwind, the guy "dude" has a problem with getting hid screen up and running09:27
dudeyes09:27
Hawkwindwildchild: Install it and run it09:27
dudei cant startx09:28
Hawkwindwildchild: You can install most any 32bit app in a 64bit OS09:28
jendedude: it should say something like root@09:28
BluesKajwildchild .. I did a clean reinstall09:28
dudesomething wrong with my video card driver09:28
jendedude: does it?09:28
dudeya09:28
wildchildBluesKaj how :shy:09:28
morghanphoenixhave you redone the xorg config?09:28
jendedude: then type mount /dev/hda1 /mnt09:28
dudei think so09:28
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dudetheres no console09:29
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morghanphoenixthere isn't when you run irssi09:29
BluesKajDL the x86 32bit version of kubuntu, burn it and install it09:29
wildchild:>09:29
cpk2does konq use a "password manager" like FF does?09:29
dudeb4 i run irssi, there is09:29
wildchildI thought I can do by apt :P09:29
LjLcpk2: it uses the standard KDE Wallet09:29
morghanphoenixIrssi uses your console to run09:29
LjLcpk2: which is shared by all aother KDE applications that handle passwords09:29
morghanphoenixhence no prompt while it's running09:30
cpk2so kde wallet would store all of my passwords for websites?09:30
LjLcpk2: yes09:30
Abbyshould all programs installed be showing up under the K Menu? Or is there another menue I need to add to access them?09:30
dudehow about the alt+f1 or 2?09:30
granbarHey. Who don't I have proper permissions to run wlassistant?09:30
LjLcpk2: when you tell Konqui to remember a password, you should be prompted to create a wallet (if you don't have one already)09:30
HawkwindAbby: Depends on how you installed the apps09:30
jendemorghanphoenix: I'd say he should restart in recovery mode and let him go into chroot to fix his box, wouldn't you?09:30
HawkwindAbby: If you installed them with Adept/apt-get, then they should eventually show up in the menus, yes09:31
morghanphoenixShould work09:31
cpk2LjL: I have a wallet but I have a screenshot from my FF in windows with all my remembered passwords and stuff, so I want to input those in =)09:31
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dudehow do i restore xorg.conf?09:31
morghanphoenixIf not he can always log back in to irissi09:31
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Hawkwinddude: sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg09:31
AbbyHawkwind: some were pre-installed, some were installed using the package manager, but not all of them are showing up.09:31
jendedude: grab a pen and write down the steps to get into a chroot environment09:31
ejssgl is it avail in latest ubuntu ?09:31
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jendedude: have it?09:31
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HawkwindAbby: You can update your menus, but I forget the command since I don't really use KDE that much at all09:32
dudejust a sec09:32
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morghanphoenixerr on the side of caution if need be09:32
cpk2erhm kdewallet isnt a command09:32
morghanphoenixMy xserver won't run if I tell it how much vram I have09:32
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fdovingHawkwind: kbuildsycoca09:32
jendeAbby: on a console type apt-get menus09:32
Hawkwindfdoving: That's it, thanks :)09:32
morghanphoenixI have to measure my ram in the lowest amount even though I have 16MB09:32
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jendeAbby: and then update-menus all as SUDO09:33
jendedude09:33
dudek09:33
dudeim ready09:33
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Abbyjende: says it's an invalid operation09:34
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morghanphoenixput this down to: sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg09:34
jendedude: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt09:34
fdovingjende: apt-get menus doesn't do anything. if you mean 'apt-get install menu' it will not affect kde menus. it'll just create a submenu named 'Debian' with debian menus.09:34
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jendedude: and then type mount chroot /mnt09:35
Ouaaahhhh,09:35
LjLcpk2: hm, never tried something like that, let me see09:35
morghanphoenixThat's what worked when mine crashed, you have to answer the questions and then type startx09:35
jendedude09:35
dudeok09:35
Abbyjende: command not found09:35
dudehow do i exit here?09:35
morghanphoenixctrl+c maybe?09:36
fdovingdude: if you're inside a chroot, you can exit with the 'exit' command.09:36
dudeexit09:36
fdovingif that's what you mean.09:36
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dude:)09:36
morghanphoenixirissi I think he means09:36
jendeAbby: I hadn't had enough coffee and I was unfortunately wrong and "fdoving" was right09:36
fdovingah.. irssi it's /quit09:36
LjLcpk2: well, to open the wallet thingie you can just go to a site that requests a password, and a wallet icon will show up in the tray when you tell konqueror to remember it09:36
jendedude: and then do what morghanphoenix told you09:36
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LjLcpk2: from that icon, you can apparently add entries, but i'm not sure how that's supposed to be done09:37
cpk2LjL: I found it in kcontrol but I am reading the help file to see what to do09:37
morghanphoenixOne stop shop, easier than trying to do safe mode if it works.09:37
morghanphoenixThat is assuming he knows what's in his computer.09:37
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morghanphoenixI don't know what I would've done if my girlfriend didn't have her windows box on my network.09:38
morghanphoenixI have wierd monitor settings that I had to look up.09:38
fdovinglivecds :)09:38
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cpk2LjL: I think I got it, right click and open wallet09:38
morghanphoenixand the web site definatly doesn't work in lynx09:38
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fdovingmorghanphoenix: elinks then :)09:39
Abbyfdoving, jende: package is missing? I got that same error trying to install firefox09:39
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jendeAbby: how do you install FF?09:39
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morghanphoenixnever heard of it09:39
jendeAbby: is universe in your sources.list enabled?09:39
Abbywell, I couldn't install it from the repository, so I tried a command-line install09:39
mattikHello. I tried to install jedit, but I hadn't got lucky and now it's half installed and I cannot use apt or dpkg.09:40
fdovingjende: firefox is in main.09:40
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LjLcpk2: yeah, but then i don't know how entries are supposed to be added (sure, right click on something, and click "New"... but what format should they be in?)09:40
fdovingAbby: strange. do you get a password prompt when starting adept?09:40
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Abbyyeah09:40
fdovingcan you find firefox if you search for it inside adept?09:41
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root__cannot connect to x server, xserver.xorg is not installed09:41
cpk2LjL: Hrmm it looks like this might be too annoying to do since it looks like the name needs to be the website and you need to specify what field the site would call the username09:41
jendefdoving: I had it, honestly, just a few weaks ago that my neighbour whom I just convinced to get rid of W$, that he couldn't install FF either til I changed his sources09:41
fdoving!xconfig09:41
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"09:41
root__cannot connect to x server, xserver.xorg is not installed09:41
Abbyfdoving, jende: also, I can't edit my repositories. I looked at the help section and the menu item I'm supposed to select to get there doesn't exist09:41
LjLcpk2: well that seems reasonable, the browser cannot guess that by itself09:41
fdovingjende: firefox is still in main. :)09:41
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mattikCould someone say how do I get jedit out of my Kubuntu09:41
cpk2LjL: guess I will just keep the screenshot read only by me and wait until I have visited all those sites09:41
fdovingAbby: is this dapper or edgy?09:41
morghanphoenixI like elinks09:42
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cpk2LjL: I would expect the browser to guess username is "email" or "user" though09:42
Abbyfdoving: the latest version. just installed it a couple days ago09:42
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dudefdoving: cannot connect to x server, xserver.xorg is not installed09:42
jendefdoving: I know that it is in main, but as I said, I had that funny issue here as well09:42
morghanphoenixwoah09:42
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morghanphoenixThat's a new one09:43
LjLcpk2: hmm that sort of tricks would seem a bit too ad-hoc to me, but yeah, i suppose it could09:43
jendefdoving: but it's not worth arguing really09:43
cpk2Abby: dapper is 6.06 and edgy is 6.10 however edgy is still in beta, so latest version doesnt help very much =\09:43
fdovingAbby: if you open a konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) and execute 'lsb_release -c' what does it say?09:43
Abbyfdoving: I think it's dapper. The computer isn't for me so I wouldn't have installed something in beta09:43
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dudemaybe i should re install kubuntu all over again...09:44
fdovingAbby: can you install other apps from adept? try to install 'mozilla-firefox'.09:44
dudebad day 4 me09:45
jendedude: try to install xserver and xorg09:45
dude:(09:45
fdovingdude: xserver.xorg is not installed?09:45
jendedude: while you are in chroot09:45
dudefdoving: thats the error09:45
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mgcjquit09:45
fdovingdude: is this inside a chroot? or did you just break your X?09:45
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ugresiawhere polish irc??09:46
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fdoving!pl09:46
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl09:46
jendefdoving: he did just break his X.09:46
Hawkwind!po09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
mgcjquit09:46
Hawkwind!polish09:46
dudejende: how do i install xserver09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about polish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
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fdovingmgcj: /quit - with the /09:46
Abbyfdoving: that's odd. it thinks firefox is installed, but I can't find it09:46
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n00btardwhere do i go to install a theme i just DLed?09:46
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n00btardty09:47
LeeJunFan!ops09:47
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist09:47
LeeJunFanoops, sorry.09:47
HawkwindLeeJunFan: A tad bit late09:47
dudefdoving: i installed the video card driver and after rebooting, x window wont start09:47
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RiddellLeeJunFan: panic over :)09:47
LeeJunFandidn't see you fdoving :)09:47
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trym|workwhen I did dist-upgrade to edgy.. my win button on the keyboard does no longer work.. any ideas how to fix it ?09:47
oslo^^09:47
LjL!edgy > trym|work09:47
fdovingLeeJunFan :)09:48
DjDarkman_trym|work: get a pingvin button :)09:48
trym|workk09:48
n00btardwhere do i go to install a theme i just DLed?09:48
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trym|workLjL: I would assume though, that this is a generic linux question, not edgy09:48
morghanphoenixgotta go, haven't slept in 48 hours and my fiance's due home soon, she'll kill me if she catches me still sitting here.09:48
fdovingAbby: try 'kmenu -> run command' - type 'firefox' and hit enter.09:48
fdovingbye morghanphoenix.09:48
dudeo well, i quit09:48
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fdovingdude: hang on. do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?09:49
r4n01hi y'all09:49
dudefdoving: yes09:49
jendefdoving: he has09:49
r4n01i'm having trouble playing my mp3's in kubuntu09:49
LjLtrym|work: well, perhaps i haven't understood the question, but what i got was that your Win button used to work, then you upgraded to Edgy, and now it doesn't...?09:49
r4n01can you guys/girls help me?09:49
jende!mp309:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:49
fdoving!ask > r4n0109:49
jender4n01: ^^^^^09:49
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trym|workLjL: yeah but I reckon that has something to do with xkb settings rather than edgy itself.. but yes it happened when I dist-upgraded to edgy09:49
n00btardwhere do i go to install a theme i just DLed?09:50
fdovingdude: and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' doesn't work?09:50
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Abbyfdoving: already tried it. It won't execute09:50
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LjLtrym|work: then it's an edgy question ;-) of course Edgy is still Linux, so it's a Linux question... but if it's a problem you have with Edgy and not Dapper, it's an Edgy problem09:50
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buzyou gotta be kidding me09:50
Ash-Fox!kops09:50
dudefdoving: yes and it wont work09:50
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist09:50
HawkwindAsh-Fox: Late again :P09:50
HawkwindAsh-Fox: It's already handled09:50
Ash-FoxCrap, sorry09:50
ElectrolyteSo many idiots on the server recently.09:51
fraconatasha: why calling our names?09:51
LeeJunFanat least it wasn't me this time :)09:51
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Ash-FoxThis computer is freezing up like hell, and typed that a whiel back09:51
gnomefreak?09:51
dudexserver xorg is not installed09:51
Hawkwindgnomefreak: It's handled09:51
gnomefreakok09:51
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T3hWiz0rddude: xserver-xorg09:51
=== Hawkwind Beats gnomefreak for the notice message :P
trym|workLjL: I would classify it as a kde/xorg problem rather than an edgy problem.. but sure.. Ill ask in #ubuntu+109:51
fdovingdude: - not .09:51
gnomefreak:)09:51
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rexbron!ops09:51
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist09:51
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gnomefreakrexbron: ?09:51
fdovingrexbron: don't.09:51
dudeok09:51
Hawkwindrexbron: ??09:51
rexbronsorry09:51
jendefdoving: that is the point that surprises me ... that dude can't do a dpkg09:51
rexbronthe bots gone09:51
n00btardholy fuck, no one knows how to install a theme in this entire chat room?09:51
rexbronjust responed09:52
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Hawkwind!language09:52
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:52
mattikHow Do I remove jedit what is half installed?09:52
rexbronsorry bout that09:52
gnomefreakn00btard: watch your language please09:52
Electrolyten00btard - for what?09:52
n00btardfor kde09:52
dudei'll try it again09:52
n00btardi have the thing DLed but idk how to install it09:52
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LeeJunFanquick everyone sudo ping -f -s 1400 61.42.37.46 :)09:52
LjL!changethemes09:52
ubotuInstall gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=309:52
T3hWiz0rdthere is a lot of opping going on in here...09:52
LeeJunFanjust kidding - don't really do that :)09:52
naliothAsh-Fox: rexbron  did you get sorted?09:53
LjLn00btard: ^09:53
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T3hWiz0rderrybody just chill out09:53
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rexbronnalioth: ?09:53
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naliothrexbron: you called for ops. was your problem taken care of?09:53
fdovingnalioth: yes, handled.09:53
Hawkwindnalioth: They were just late on the trigger.  Everything's settled :)09:53
rexbronnalioth: yes09:53
jendefdoving: are you having any ideas how to get dude back to X?09:54
rexbronnalioth: thank you for responding09:54
naliothjende: /msg ubotu xcfg09:54
rexbronnalioth: but It was a mistake, some one had already taken care of it09:54
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nalioth:)09:54
LeeJunFannalioth must have been sleeping, he's like quick kick mcgraw usually :P09:54
rexbron=D09:54
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granbarDoes anybody here have a Cnet CWP-854 that works in linux?09:55
fdovingjende: without accurate error messages it's hard to help him.09:55
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jendefdoving: thats true and09:55
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jendefdoving: its hard to figure out what he did anyway09:55
aetherhum this was flashing at me why >.<09:56
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jendefdoving: what, if he would start with a dpkg --configure -a and the dpkg-reconfigure09:59
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blueyedmattik: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1551924&group_id=588&atid=10058810:01
mattikblueyed: Thank you :)10:01
blueyedYou might want to leave a comment there, if you have a SF.net account, just confirming it.10:02
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mattikthank you very much for help10:02
fdovingjende: if xserver-xorg is installed, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' should just work, if he misspelled xserver-xorg (-/.) that would explain alot.10:02
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jendefdoving: true...10:03
n00btardwhat do i do with the .kth file when im trying to install a style?10:03
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cpk2kmail has my addresses in the addressbook bu when i compose something no addresses are there?10:04
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fdovingn00btard: install it to the theme manager. (kmenu -> run command -> type 'kcontrol' press enter. Now Appearance & Themes -> Theme Manager -> Install New Theme..)10:05
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morghanphoenixanyone know a transcoder for ogg video to avis, avidemux isn't opening ogg video.10:05
trappistmorghanphoenix: mencoder10:05
n00btardty fdoving10:05
jende@ all: see ya all tomorrow and take care folks10:06
fdovingnite jende.10:06
morghanphoenixany gui frontend for that or do I need to figure out the cli for it?10:06
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blueyedmattik: did it help?10:07
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fdovingmorghanphoenix: there is 'kmenc15' but i don't think it's in the repos.10:07
mattikblueyed: So I have to install some other version of jedit?10:07
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fdovingmorghanphoenix: http://kmenc15.sourceforge.net/10:07
morghanphoenixI'm supposed to be in bed now, isn't "just one last thing" great?10:08
fdovingdo it tomorrow :)10:08
cpk2I know this sounds silly but how to get kmail to recognize what you put into kaddressbook?10:09
morghanphoenixOoh, sourceforge has a deb file10:09
NightBirdhm... what program should I use to install .rpm files?10:09
blueyedmattik: no, the provided .debs are broken. I'd just try the "normal" install. But currently jedit.org is down. Try looking in the "Files" section on www.sf.net/projects/jedit. Sry for OT.10:09
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fdovingcpk2: hmm.. it does that for me.10:10
morghanphoenixThis might be pretty quick after all10:10
cpk2fdoving: I just imported all my contacts but when i go to write mail I cant see any of my contacts if I use "select" to find a contact10:11
domlcpk2, and you've tried restarting kmail?10:12
trappistcpk2: what resource are you using for your contacts10:12
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fdovingcpk2: i have the whole list. i'm thinking in the same direction as trappist.10:12
fdovingcpk2: you can choose addressbook at the top of the 'select..' dialog box. is it set to 'all'?10:13
cpk2doml: was right hehe10:13
cpk2who would have thought restarting the app would do it =X10:13
fdovingas easy as that :)10:13
cpk2guess I should close things more often hehe10:14
domli usually have that problem with kopete rather then kmail, but the same solution works there10:14
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cpk2I dot even close apps when I shut down kde, I like everything staying where it always is =)10:16
cpk2thats my biggest annoyance with gaim10:16
cpk2it misbehaves alot10:16
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NightBird... um.. how do I install make and gcc and g++?10:18
cpk2build-essential10:19
NightBird?10:19
fdoving!b-e10:19
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:19
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NightBirdah found it10:20
NightBirdI was looking in the wrong spot10:20
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morghanphoenixokay, how do I get qt3.3? am I missing a package or do I need to get it from the web?10:20
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fdovingmorghanphoenix: what do you need it for? compiling?10:21
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fdovingmorghanphoenix: in that case, get 'libqt3-mt-dev'10:21
morghanphoenixyup10:21
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morghanphoenixnice, I hate dependancies, why can't it just be in the package?10:22
zorglu_because it would be much larger10:22
zorglu_morghanphoenix: maybe you should look at klik, package has no dependancies there10:23
zorglu_!klik10:23
ubotuklik is a simple way to run additional software without actually installing it. For instructions and more information see http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/10:23
ZeroCoolthat I would ask, if there is a good channel for command line apps...tks10:23
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cpk2any recommendations for dvd authoring stuff (to make a dvd with menus that works in  stand alone player)10:25
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slow-motionn810:27
zorglu_http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6953 <- wow dvd authoring by hand :)10:27
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zorglu_http://varsha.sourceforge.net/#Features  <- old program but seems to fill the task10:28
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zorglu_http://dvdauthorwizard.sourceforge.net/view.php/page/Voorpagina <- more kde like :)10:30
domlcpk2, have you tried kopete?  it will let you associate your contacts with your address book.  and do nice stuff like group contacts from many protocols into a single meta-contact (e.g. if someone has a Jabber ID and MSN, and ICQ)10:31
cpk2doml: kopete is a program from hell that crashes non stop =(10:31
cpk2although it would be very nice if it actually worked10:31
domlwhat?  since when?  i haven't had it crash10:31
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zorglu_hmm i run kopete without issue10:32
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zorglu_except when you try to configure the webcam... there it crash :)10:32
cpk2i havent tried the 12.3 version but the version in the repos before that was problems nonstop10:32
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domlproblems with what?10:33
cpk2AND it refuses to not list contact groups any way but alphabetically10:33
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tuxedupWhen I insert a dvdroms I cannot open the contents via konquror if I try to in the system/media:/ directory, yet II can do with cdroms.  Yet II can look at its contents via /media/cdrom/ how cna this be resolved?10:33
cpk2sorry but i would rather have "Friends" above "associates"10:33
morghanphoenixgotta love packages that depend on obsolete files.10:33
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morghanphoenixI wouldn't really mind deps if I could ever find them all10:34
cpk2morghanphoenix: probably in backports10:34
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zorglu_rename "Friends" as "_Friends" :)10:34
domlah well, to each their own.  i prefer kopete's behaviour over gaim's.  very nice to be able to lump subcontacts under a single meta contact and associate it with my address book10:34
morghanphoenixListed as replaced by a file I allready have.10:34
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morghanphoenixI have the new versions of the libs and it wants the old ones. Would going from source make any diffenance or would it still need the old libs?10:35
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zorglu_is that dapper repositories which are that bugged ?10:36
morghanphoenixme? not dapper, packages from the net, dapper is usually okay.10:37
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zorglu_ah ok10:37
cpk2morghanphoenix: what program is this?10:38
morghanphoenixI just wish I could smack it and point at the new packages and yell "HERE, LOOKIE HERE! This is what you're looking for!"10:38
morghanphoenixKmenc10:38
cpk2morghanphoenix: didnt i tell you to look into ld last night?10:38
morghanphoenixyeah, couldn't figure it out, man pages tend to confuse me more than a bit.10:39
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morghanphoenixAnyways, way past my bedtime, by about a day.10:42
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sascha_hello10:48
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nozkanhow to change console resulation10:53
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zorglu_nozkan: elaborate please10:54
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sascha_My smart card reader doesnt read my cards in edgy eft. Can somebody help please?10:55
nozkanI want grub screen 1024x768 what can I do?10:55
zorglu_nozkan: wow, you want to change the resolution of grub...10:55
zorglu_never looked that10:55
zorglu_i was about to advice vga= as bootoption10:56
zorglu_or something like that :)10:56
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nozkanit not possible ok I'm sory my english language very bad10:57
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nozkankubuntu live cd show loading screen 1024*76810:58
cpk2nozkan: what is your native language? there are several support channels in different languages10:58
ZaireIm locked out of my phpbb3 forum anyone in here have an idea as to how I can get back in...and I know unrelated channel and all but no ones answering in the phpbb channel10:58
nozkanturkish10:59
nozkanTrke bilen varm ?10:59
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fdoving!tr10:59
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.10:59
nozkansadece bot var orda :)10:59
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Zairehey cpk2 Immm back lol11:00
cpk2how do you update the kmenu again?11:01
fdoving'kbuildsycoca'11:01
cpk2Zaire: i didnt even know there was a phpbb2, guess I am a bit behind the times11:01
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Zairedunno but Im somehow locked out of my forums admin panel with no means to login lol11:01
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zorglu_nozkan: i looked at the http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual without finding anything. but the beta version of grub seems to be able to do it11:02
Zaireand its being a pain for creating a new DB to install phpbb2 and get back to 3 later lol11:02
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ZaireI did find however links to 2 sites that should be added the the channel bot for when ppl ask about phpbb211:04
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vgecpk2: i allways press mouse2 on menu item and select "edit item" when the menu appear, i press "save button", it updates teh menu11:08
Zairewhats the command for loging into the mysql in cli again?11:09
vgemysql -u username -p11:09
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cpk2vge: thats alot easier to remember thanks =)11:10
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vgenp :)11:10
Zairedamnit mysql isn't even letting me login now11:10
vgewhat it says?11:10
ZaireERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'username'@'localhost' (using password: YES)11:11
asrkhelp! how can i rollback to KDE 3.5.311:11
cpk2Zaire: well if it helps I am planning on starting a lamp server up once edgy releases11:11
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cpk2so I will be able to walk you through it better then =P11:11
Zairelol11:11
vgeZaire: you'r myslq username is "username"? :)11:11
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Zaireno I changed the message a bit11:12
vgekk11:12
cpk2Zaire: I thought you were accessing mysql remotely11:12
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maffiussany canal kubuntu in spanish?11:13
cpk2!es11:13
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:13
ZaireI had been but due to some probs I just swapped my periphs to the server11:13
cpk2and you made another user at localhost?11:14
Zairejust a standard user yea for general access and setting up the forum11:14
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Zaireit says the new database I created already exists when I try to remake it and yet I can't see it when I log in with phpmyadmin and phpbb2 itself can't seem to see it11:17
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ubuntuhi !11:19
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ubuntutoall11:19
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fdovinghi.11:19
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ubuntui want to install anjuta how can i do it _11:20
LjLubuntu: "sudo apt-get install anjuta"11:21
Zairehow do I give total access to an account for all databases?11:21
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fdovingZaire: mysql?11:23
Zaireyea11:23
fdovingZaire: run 'mysql -u root use mysql' from konsole.11:24
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Zairethat just took me into mysql11:25
fdovingZaire: then 'GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO username@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'password';11:26
fdovingchange username, localhost and password to fit your setup11:26
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Zaireso just change password lol11:26
fdovingyou should also consider just giving privileges on the database in question.11:26
fdovingi suggest using: 'GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON database.* TO username@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'password';11:27
fdovingwhere database.* is the name of the database you need access to.11:27
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Zairek done11:30
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Zaireodd its still not letting me see the databases or have access to them11:32
xstHow can I fix this: When I press "send webcam" in the chat window in kopete 0.12.3, nothing happens. Nothing at all. But in "Configure -> Devices" the webcam functions quite well. What should I do?11:33
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thygrrrhmm, I somehow can't seem to get public key authorization working with ssh.11:37
izzyb_how do I stop a module from loading?11:38
LjL!blacklist11:39
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list11:39
fdovingthygrrr: what did you try?11:40
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izzyb_LjL: thanks :)11:41
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thygrrrfdoving, the usual procedure: ssh-keygen -t dsa; then copy the key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on my server ... I actually suspect it's something on the server. I've seen a howto that tells me I need to set "UsePAM no", though that sounds dangerous (I might get locked out?)11:42
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fdovingthygrrr: that should not be needed as far as i know.11:42
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thygrrrfdoving, it used to work on a similar setup (debian, same server) a year ago or so, though I was using cygwin's ssh back then.11:43
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NightBirdhow do I setup kde so that it requires double clicking instead of single clicking to open a file?11:43
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lipe_peHow can i configurate the sound in kubuntu... i don't have "alsaconf" here ... ?!11:44
fdovingNightBird: kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> mouse -> double click...11:45
fdoving!sound11:45
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin11:45
vgewhere is located default linux fonts?11:45
drizHi, I was wondering if it was possible to edit PDF documents... using AdobeReader which lets you do that11:45
lipe_pefdoving: thx u very much11:45
drizis it avaliable and possible?11:46
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trappistvge: all over the place11:46
thygrrr... /etc/ssh/ssh_config is parsed everytime ssh is run, correct? The defaults in there that are actually commented out are still defaults, right?11:46
dragonflysevenAre there any plans on changing the default fonts in Kubuntu? They are starting to look rather retro.11:46
vgetrappist: if my webserver needs to use em?11:46
drizhello?11:47
Kim^JEdgy Eft is NOT ready for release.11:47
trappistvge: try visiting fonts://System in konqueror.  find the font you want, check out its properties.  the "Points to" property gives you the filename.11:48
NightBirdThanks fdoving11:48
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vgetrappist: ill see what i come up with11:48
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drizwould anyone help me11:49
dragonflysevendrix: With what?11:49
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driz I was wondering if it was possible to edit PDF documents... using AdobeReader which lets you do that11:50
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trappistdriz: adobe reader lets you fill out pdf forms and such, but doesn't really let you edit pdfs.  for that, you need full-on adobe acrobat, not available for linux.11:51
dragonflysevenWell... OpenOffice lets you create them. I am not sure about editing existing ones.11:51
fdovingthygrrr: well.. depends, but you souldn't need to change anything in there. i just tested on a clean dapper install. it's basically copying over the public dsa-key and putting it in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys11:51
drizadobe reader lets you fill out pdf forms that's what i need11:51
Bbettowhy i can't conect to undernet whit konversation?11:51
vgeAn error occurred while loading fonts://system:11:51
vgePlease specify "Personal" or "System"11:51
trappistBbetto: I dunno, what happens when you try11:52
trappistvge: look real close at the difference between what I said and what you did11:52
vgeit dont accept fonts://System, it turns to what i wrote11:52
vge?11:52
Bbettothis ]  Servidor encontrado, conectando...11:52
trappistvge: ah11:52
Bbettoand nothig hapengd11:52
trappistvge: just do fonts:/ and then click System11:52
Bbettoserver found, conecting...11:52
trappistvge: then file a bug report :)  cuz that's wrong11:53
Bbettobut notinhg hapend11:53
Bbettowhat can i do?11:53
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trappistBbetto: what servername do you use11:54
trappistBbetto: whatever it is, try telnet servername 666711:54
vgetrappist: bug indeed11:54
thompa!nvidia11:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:54
driztrappist:"fill out pdf forms and such" exactly what i need. do you know how i can install it? i need to fill out this college application11:54
trappistdriz: sudo apt-get install acroread11:54
Bbettoirc.undernet.org:666711:54
NightBirdhow do I restart the x-server?11:55
dragonflysevenctrl+alt+backspace11:55
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dragonflyseventhat was for NightBird11:55
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NightBirddragonflyseven, thanks11:55
driztrappist: thank you :-)11:55
NightBirdhaha.. awesome...11:56
trappistdriz: if it can't find it, you need to enable your multiverse repo11:56
thygrrrfdoving, I know. Strange. I suppose it is my old and trusty debian server, then.11:56
driztrappist: i have that done already11:56
trappistBbetto: irc.undernet.org isn't responding at all on 666711:56
trappistdriz: good deal11:56
ravariahi11:57
trappistBbetto: nevermind, I can connect here11:57
zorglu_$ telnet irc.undernet.org 666711:57
zorglu_Trying 64.18.128.86...11:57
zorglu_Connected to irc.undernet.org.11:57
driztrappist: yupo11:57
trappistBbetto: are you behind a firewall?11:57
Bbettonop11:57
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trappistBbetto: give it several minutes.  it could be waiting for an ident response from you.11:57
ravariaanyone knows how can i get flash for an amd64?11:57
dragonflysevenSo how hard would it be to install XGL/Compiz with KDE now? I know a few months ago it was tricky, and I really can't do much beyond copy commands. Anyone know of a walk through for it?11:57
Bbettook11:58
Bbettothanks11:58
ravariahallo11:59
dragonflysevendriz: Try pdftk if you want more functionallity.11:59
dragonflysevenravaria: Hello.11:59
ravariacan anyone tell me how to install flash player in an amd64 kubuntu??11:59
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drizdragonflyseven: do i need to restart firefox for it to work12:00
dragonflysevendriz: But it doesn't have a GUI. And huh?12:00
dragonflysevenFor what to work?12:00
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zorglu_!flash6412:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flash64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
zorglu_hmm i added this one12:01
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zorglu_!flash64bit12:02
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava12:02
drizdragonflyseven: ... I need to fill out this online form using the adobe reader... do i need to download the pdf file then edit it12:02
zorglu_here we go :)12:02
zorglu_ravaria: the ubotu was for you12:02
ravariathere is no flash for 64, but someone told me to get fire fox and then run the flash installer12:02
dragonflysevendriz: I am not sure, I am just reading off a thread in the Ubuntu forums. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208310&highlight=pdf+forms)12:02
ravariathanks obout12:02
zorglu_ravaria: well ubotu is a bot :) i am the one who triggered the command :)12:03
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drizdragonflyseven: oooh...12:03
ravaria;)12:03
ravariaok thanks12:03
dragonflysevendriz: Just out of curiosity, where are you applying?12:04
drizdragonflyseven: to Northeastern, Boston College, Boston University, Tufts12:04
driza couple more12:05
dragonflysevendriz: I have to start the whole applying process pretty soon. It sounds like quiet a hassle.12:06
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drizdragonflyseven: it is very much a hassle... my advice find some help from people who can help you.... as much as possible12:07
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dragonflysevendriz: Yep, I will try. I am going to a college-night thing Thursday.12:09
dragonflysevenSo does anyone know how much power a GUI drains? I was wondering how much longer my laptop would last if I didn't start KDE and just used nano.12:10
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drizdragonflyseven: good... ask as many questions as you can man... you don't want to go somewhere you won't like or have no chance of getting into12:10

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