[12:11] <magic> como puedo arreglar mis poblemas de video en la sesion xgl?
[12:11] <DaSkreech> !es
[12:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:11] <intelikey> otaku-san can you pastebin the error   and  your sources.list
[12:11] <magic> sorry
[12:11] <DaSkreech> magic: Also try #ubuntu-xgl
[12:11] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Whats up?
[12:11] <DaSkreech> magic: They can be helpful
[12:11] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Rain Clouds!
[12:11] <otaku-san> intelikey: sure thing...hold on
[12:12] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: you to?  It's poring here
[12:12] <intelikey> it sprunkel here all night  :)
[12:12] <max__> intel 82845G/GL chipset intergrated graphics devicce
[12:13] <intelikey> sprunkel is the past tense of sprinle isn't it ?
[12:13] <intelikey> sprinkle that is
[12:14] <inteliwasp> how do i make the system tray icons stack on top of them selves?
[12:14] <max__> intelikey: intel 82845G/GL chipset intergrated graphics devicce
[12:15] <DaSkreech> inteliwasp: May need to change your System tray settings
[12:15] <intelikey> max__ ok in this irssi session type this without the quotes.  "/dcc send intelikey /etc/X11/xorg.conf "
[12:15] <DaSkreech> inteliwasp: Right click o nthe K menu and choose configure panel
[12:15] <DaSkreech> And set your size down to 48 pixels
[12:16] <intelikey> let me look at your config file...
[12:16] <max__> thank you very much for your help
[12:16] <intelikey> max__ ?
[12:17] <max__> yes?
[12:17] <silox> Tecom BT3030 - Anyone know if this bluetooth USB adapter is supported in Linux??
[12:17] <silox> sorry i ment BT3033
[12:17] <intelikey> the xorg.conf file ?
[12:17] <max__> i sent it
[12:17] <intelikey> hmmm you behind a firewall ?
[12:17] <max__> no
[12:18] <intelikey> router ?
[12:18] <max__> no
[12:18] <max__> i typed it in clicked enter and nothing happened
[12:18] <max__> that, right? "/dcc send intelikey /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:18] <intelikey> without the quotes  yes
[12:19] <max__> hang on intelikey
[12:19] <natalia> is anyone here using a print server with kubuntu?
[12:19] <silox> natalia yupp
[12:20] <natalia> What did you have to do to get it to work?  I know the IP of the print server and the port the printer is on... but cant get it to print
[12:20] <silox> or i use ubuntu ^^
[12:20] <intelikey> you can check alt+1 alt+2 alt+3 for other windows (error messages) in irssi.   irssi uses a screen-like display by default.
[12:20] <intelikey> @ max__
[12:20] <natalia> I am using lpd
[12:20] <silox> what services does your printserver support?
[12:20] <silox> ok
[12:21] <natalia> so I have lpd://IP_ADDRESS/3
[12:21] <otaku-san> intelikey: heres the pastebin http://pastebin.ca/205564
[12:21] <intelikey> looking
[12:21] <natalia> but when I print a test page nothing come out of the printer
[12:21] <otaku-san> thanks
[12:21] <max__> i tried again and no luck
[12:21] <silox> natalia wait one sec
[12:21] <natalia> ok :)
[12:22] <silox> is it a printserver in the printer or an external?
[12:22] <natalia> an external
[12:23] <silox> ok have u tried Samba and Cups?
[12:23] <natalia> currently my windows computers can print to it with out issue - just need to know how to get my linux one working
[12:23] <natalia> I have cups yes
[12:23] <max__> intelikey: i tried to send, you not get it?
[12:23] <silox> in wIndows can u search the printserver in the "Computer Search" tool?
[12:23] <natalia> yes in windows I can it works well
[12:24] <ypsila> good morning
[12:24] <natalia> also I can ping the print server from my linux machine too
[12:24] <intelikey> max__ are you are doing that right here as iff you were talking to me aren't you ?   not in a console bash shell ?
[12:24] <silox> okey then u must take Samba
[12:24] <max__> yes
[12:24] <natalia> I have to install samba?
[12:24] <intelikey> no i'm not getting any offer.
[12:25] <silox> yes if u cant change to it in printer settings but i am sure that your printserver supports some more then SMB..
[12:25] <max__> dcc send intelikey /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:25] <silox> what the name on your print server?
[12:25] <natalia> this is it here: http://www.humra.com/product_info.php?products_id=540&osCsid=b0777ef9de111ae0ff195d64df707201
[12:25] <silox> ok
[12:26] <natalia> i sais it support UNIX LPR/LPD printing.
[12:26] <natalia> it
[12:26] <silox> yes..
[12:27] <silox> but u have to configure it to run on that i think
[12:27] <silox> do u know the IP to it?
[12:27] <natalia> So I installed cups - then tried to add the printer using the lpr:// method
[12:27] <natalia> yes
[12:27] <max__> intelikey: is there no other way to send?
[12:27] <silox> try to go to it in firefox..
[12:27] <intelikey> otaku-san that's all in your sources.list????  man.   there are repetes in there btw.     291 lines of sources......
[12:27] <natalia> im in there now
[12:27] <silox> ok
[12:27] <silox> see any setup thins? ^^
[12:28] <natalia> sorry - I didnt follow that last question
[12:28] <intelikey> max__ have a look in alt+1  that's the number one above the letters keys
[12:28] <silox> *things :P sorry my sleepy bad english ;)
[12:28] <natalia> setup things in firefox?
[12:28] <natalia> no I dont see any
[12:29] <max__> private messages frmo unregistered users are disabled
[12:29] <natalia> unless you mean if I go to the webadmin of the print server?
[12:29] <silox> natalia exactly :)
[12:29] <natalia> yes im in there already
[12:29] <tom__> whassup little dog
[12:29] <intelikey> and that's probably blocking dcc actions
[12:29] <silox> natalia is Unix support enabled?
[12:29] <max__> how do i fix that?
[12:29] <intelikey> max__ looks like you have to be regestered to send files on this server
[12:29] <natalia> there is no such option that I can see
[12:30] <otaku-san> intelikey: ya.....it's f'sking huge....I need to clean it...but don't know what to nuke...scared I might bork something
[12:30] <max__> how can i register in irssi
[12:30] <DaSkreech> !register
[12:30] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:30] <silox> natalia k :/ hmm
[12:30] <max__> !register
[12:30] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[12:30] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help register
[12:30] <natalia> I have SNMP option
[12:30] <otaku-san> bot abuse! hehehe
[12:31] <natalia> silox - how did you get yours to work?
[12:31] <intelikey> otaku-san my sources.list is three lines i think.
[12:31] <silox> ok..
[12:31] <otaku-san> intelikey: ......  o.0  what is in it....do you compile everything?
[12:31] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[12:31] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[12:31] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[12:32] <silox> i enabled unix support (LPD) and copied the printer name from the webmin and configured it..
[12:32] <ypsila> good morning
[12:32] <natalia> perhaps I have not enabled LPD?
[12:32] <Pinkle_Rose> hi
[12:33] <max__> whats the command to register?
[12:33] <silox> but i think its much easier to run with SMB,,
[12:33] <otaku-san> intelikey: I ran in too many problems when I had only the original repos...so I got some more with stuff I needed....kinda grew after that
[12:33] <silox> natalia maybe..
[12:33] <Pinkle_Rose> how to turn on visualisations in amarok?
[12:33] <intelikey> /msg nickserv register <passwd>
[12:33] <Pinkle_Rose> i have problem with libvisual
[12:33] <natalia> this unit does not have smb support though
[12:34] <otaku-san> ypsila: Good morning to you.  Do you have a question? Also, no need to say hello..just post your question
[12:34] <intelikey> otaku-san well anyway  your list needs a cleaning even if you keep all those repos there are some duplicates in there.
[12:34] <silox> natalia: yeah i sah that now ^^
[12:34] <natalia> also I have lpr installed from using apt-get install lpr
[12:34] <otaku-san> intelikey: ya....I just noticed that.....hehehehe...what are the ones you saw?
[12:35] <max__> intelikey: <nickerver: No such nick/channel>
[12:35] <ypsila> otaku-san: I only tried to be polite, as european educated person
[12:35] <intelikey> otaku-san might i sujest "grep -ve'#' /etc/apt/sources.list | sort -u > clean.list "    and have a look in ~/clean.list
[12:36] <intelikey> max__ typo   nickserv
[12:36] <silox> natalia: wait i will ask google ;)
[12:36] <max__> oops
[12:36] <natalia> silox - ok thanks
[12:36] <ypsila> my question: ff - firefox produces black-screen when java
[12:37] <otaku-san> ypsila: Always good!  I completely understand...but if a lot of people are posting...introductions kinda just make clutter...it's a bit informal here.  But, always nice to hear a hello or good morning!
[12:37] <max1_> ok, now im registered, ill send now intelikey
[12:37] <ypsila> otaku-san: thx, I'm usually in kubuntu-de and it is not my question :-)
[12:38] <ypsila> just asking for someone who does not trust his english
[12:38] <max1_> did you get it intelikey?
[12:38] <otaku-san> intelikey: I'll try that
[12:38] <naegling23> does anyone know the manual way to change screen resolution, its something like sudo nvidia something
[12:38] <intelikey> max1_ looking
[12:39] <kkathman> is there someway to keep that "popup blocked" message from constantly coming up in Konqueror ???
[12:39] <kkathman> thats irritating
[12:39] <ypsila> holla
[12:40] <ishimaru_kaito> holla senor
[12:40] <axel> !ubuntu
[12:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:41] <ypsila> ishimaru_kaito: just in case you meant me, I'm a lady, sorry
[12:41] <otaku-san> it's hola...heheheh not holla! ;)
[12:41] <ypsila> otaku-san: it was just meant to express my surprise
[12:42] <silox> natalia: try to whrite this in IPP ipp://ipnumer:631/lp1
[12:42] <otaku-san> Ahhh!  Are you German?
[12:42] <ypsila> otaku-san: yes
[12:42] <intelikey> max1_ do a quick    "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810 "   just to make sure the driver is installed.
[12:42] <max1_> ok, brb
[12:43] <otaku-san> intelikey: ok I put in the command and looked where my source list is...but no clean.list....where did it go?
[12:43] <intelikey> otaku-san the "clean.list" is in your home dir
[12:43] <otaku-san> ahhhhhh
[12:43] <natalia> silox - its going very slow since I changed the printing system to LPR
[12:44] <ypsila> otaku-san: I would like to know where you do come from
[12:44] <natalia> need to change it back to cups i guess
[12:44] <silox> natalia yes CUPS need to be enabled
[12:44] <intelikey> max1_ you back ?
[12:44] <ypsila> how do i get java5 with adept?
[12:44] <otaku-san> ypsila: I am from the US....hehehe an uneducated american ;)
[12:45] <max1_> intelikey: it is the latest
[12:45] <natalia> silox - having a hard time changing it back it freezes up
[12:45] <ypsila> otaku-san: nice, but why that  -san nick?
[12:45] <natalia> there we go
[12:46] <ypsila> otaku-san: not proud to be an us? *kidding*
[12:46] <silox> natalia: hehe arent u so happy when things work as u want ^^
[12:46] <max1_> intelikey: it is the latest
[12:46] <ishimaru_kaito> ypsila: apesadumbrado, mi error. hola
[12:46] <intelikey> max1_ ok. good.   now open the config in an editior and change one line.    "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf "   and scroll down to the line that says  "        DefaultDepth    24 "   change the number to 16   save and exit.
[12:46] <natalia> silox - oh yea hahaha
[12:46] <ishimaru_kaito> ps - not really spanish
[12:47] <max1_> ok, brb
[12:47] <otaku-san> ypsila: san basically means Mr. and otaku is someone really obsessed with something (like Linux) so it means Mr.Obsessed
[12:47] <natalia> silox - Ok i tried the way you said no joy same thing happens
[12:47] <ypsila> ishimaru_kaito:  i do not speak portugais
[12:47] <silox> natalia: ok try port 80 instead
[12:47] <Jucato> otaku = Japanese term for "geek" :P
[12:47] <silox> and http instead of IPP://
[12:47] <ishimaru_kaito> otaku - short for fanboy
[12:47] <ypsila> :-D
[12:47] <otaku-san> ypsila: No, I love my country.  And Japan as you can tell
[12:48] <otaku-san> actually it's a bit of an insulting term Jucato
[12:48] <natalia> silox - same thing
[12:48] <Jucato> otaku-san: which only makes me wonder even more :)
[12:48] <otaku-san> ishimaru_kaito: are you Japanese?
[12:48] <ishimaru_kaito> it's to do with being obsessed....   from wikipedia : In modern Japanese slang, an otaku refers to an overtly obsessive fan of any one particular theme, topic, or hobby.
[12:49] <ypsila> latex
[12:49] <otaku-san> Jucato: hehehehe ya...but I thought...hmmm I love Linux so lets be obsessive about it!
[12:49] <ypsila> leather
[12:49] <max1_> intelikey: i changed it, did <startx> and got the same error
[12:49] <ypsila> java5 with adept
[12:50] <otaku-san> ishimaru_kaito: ya thats why I called my self that...I'm obsessed with Linux!  So Mr.Obsessed Linux Guy
[12:50] <natalia> silox - I changed it back to lpd: and now the state sais Queued instead of Error
[12:50] <intelikey> max1_ ok i need the output of lshw.   do this  "lshw > out.lshw "    and come back here and type in "/dcc send intelikey out.lshw"
[12:50] <max1_> ok, brb
[12:50] <ypsila> ichnennemichgleichmamasan
[12:51] <silox> natalia: find something on google:  "In cups (web interface...) choose device Internet Printing protocol (http) and enter the URI as follows http://IP adress of the PN1200/lp1     It is now shown in CUPS as http://xx.xx.xxx:80/lp1....     After that CUPS requests to install the appropriate driver for your printer and it should work..."
[12:51] <silox> Natalia: look like some progress.. =)
[12:51] <otaku-san> intelikey: so in the clean list....is that what I need?  or is that the things that I need to delete?
[12:52] <max1_> lshw > out.lshw/dcc send intelikey out.lshw
[12:52] <max1_> oops
[12:52] <intelikey> otaku-san that's a single copy of every thing you already have.  it removed the dups
[12:52] <silox> natalia can u print a testpage?
[12:52] <natalia> silox - where is device internet printint protocol?
[12:52] <natalia> silox - no thats what I am trying to do
[12:52] <intelikey> otaku-san dups comments and blank lines
[12:53] <ypsila> ok, thx for the help
[12:53] <silox> natalia yeah i know ^^ but i thought maybe it worked now ;)
[12:53] <intelikey> max1_ from the /   onward
[12:53] <otaku-san> intelikey: ok!  Thanks man.
[12:53] <silox> natalia I think u can use the Gnome Print Tool also
[12:53] <natalia> silox - I dont see that option in cups that you mentioned
[12:53] <max1_> intelikey: what?
[12:54] <silox> natalia wait let me see her
[12:54] <silox> e
[12:54] <intelikey> max1_ the /dcc command
[12:54] <max1_> what abou tit?
[12:54] <max1_> about it*
[12:54] <intelikey> send me the file ?
[12:56] <max1_> that work?
[12:56] <intelikey> no
[12:56] <max1_> what is the exact command?
[12:56] <intelikey> /dcc send intelikey out.lshw
[12:56] <otaku-san> ok I'm out of here!
[12:56] <otaku-san> peace
[12:56] <Jucato> sayonara otaku-san :P
[12:56] <intelikey> otaku-san luck with it
[12:56] <ypsila> love
[12:56] <silox> natalia didnt find it here either lol must be some really old stuff i read ^^
[12:57] <natalia> silox - I need to head out for a bit dinner is ready - if you are here when I get back thats great - if not thanks for your help
[12:57] <natalia> much appreciated :)
[12:57] <silox> natalia i can try to search for some answer at the time ;)
[12:57] <snook353> does anyone have any experience with ndiswrapper and kubuntu?
[12:57] <silox> *answers
[12:57] <intelikey> DaSkreech you around ?
[12:57] <natalia> thanks :)
[12:57] <ypsila> god night
[12:58] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Shhhh
[12:58] <max1_> that work?
[12:58] <intelikey> DaSkreech is there any know issue with the i810 ?
[12:58] <intelikey> vidio
[12:58] <DaSkreech> Not as far as Iknow it should have Open source drivers and everything
[12:58] <max1_> it says "out.lshw no such directory"
[12:58] <DaSkreech> And it worked before correct?
[12:58] <max1_> yes
[12:59] <intelikey> max1_ then you need to do the command again that makes the file.....   "lshw > ~/out.lshw 2>&1 "
[12:59] <max1_> ok, brb
[01:00] <intelikey> !paste
[01:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:02] <max1_> buffer IO error
[01:02] <intelikey> DaSkreech http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27045/plain/ max1_'s xorg.conf
[01:03] <intelikey> max1_ that's fine.  now send it.
[01:03] <max1_> oh ok
[01:03] <tjako> hi all
[01:03] <max1_> it still says no such file
[01:03] <tjako> happy birth day to you
[01:04] <Jucato> ?
[01:04] <Ranma2264> I'm having problem to mount devices via desktop icons the only way to mount it is doing right click, anyone with the same issue?
[01:05] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Seems standard
[01:05] <intelikey> DaSkreech yeah.
[01:05] <DaSkreech> Whatsthe errors?
[01:05] <tjako> i have some similar problem: i mounted my ntfs disks in media, but i need a desktop shortcut
[01:05] <intelikey> that's what's trubbling me.
[01:05] <intelikey> no screens found
[01:05] <max1_> could changing anyrginf in my sources.list make this happen?
[01:06] <tjako> alias tjako t-bone
[01:06] <intelikey> normally a no screens will be the vid card or the mon section   both look ok.
[01:07] <intelikey> max1_ can you confirm that the file is not in your home dir.   go to that console and type "ls "
[01:07] <tjako> anybody know how to create desktop shortcuts of maps in /media/*.*
[01:08] <intelikey> tjako right click the desktop ?
[01:08] <tjako> doesnt work
[01:09] <tjako> which to choose : create folder/launcher/document
[01:09] <Ranma2264> I'm trying to update hal by source, but I have a problem where can I find policy kit?
[01:09] <intelikey> launcher
[01:09] <tjako> and then what should i fill in?
[01:09] <intelikey> and input the full /path/name you want tjako
[01:10] <tjako> in command?
[01:10] <intelikey> yep
[01:10] <max1_> its not there
[01:11] <intelikey> tjako konq should use the program associated with the type.
[01:11] <tjako> hey great inelikey! it works!! thankx so much, i have been struggling with this for 3 days already!
[01:11] <intelikey> max1_ hmmmm   ok lets see what DaSkreech comes up with.
[01:11] <max1_> the file isnt that long
[01:11] <max1_> i can coppy it
[01:12] <intelikey> DaSkreech what's the word on max1_ xorg problem ?
[01:12] <tjako> no i just needed a fast way to access my ntfsdrives, which are correctly mounted and are readable and writable
[01:12] <soulrider> hi everyone
[01:12] <max1_> thank both of you for the help
[01:12] <intelikey> the file max1_ ?   which file ?
[01:13] <max1_> huh
[01:13] <vge> can somebody tell me, how can i disable "mouse rolling over taskbar tabs changing the window problem"?
[01:14] <vge> taskbar==panel
[01:15] <intelikey> max1_ what monitor do you have ?
[01:16] <max1_> Gateway LE500
[01:16] <DaSkreech> Did you buy the computer?
[01:16] <max1_> its never given me probelms untill i tried to switch to Edgy Eft
[01:17] <tjako> anybody know why internet connections through http in ubuntu go sooo slow?
[01:17] <intelikey> max1_ i betting there is a bug in the version of xorg.  or possably the i810 driver for that version.
[01:18] <max1_> can can i fix it?
[01:18] <tjako> i have fast adsl 6 mbit, but looking up the url takes ages
[01:18] <DaSkreech> max1_: When did you upgrade?
[01:18] <max1_> lastnight
[01:18] <DaSkreech> Did you try a Dist-upgrade today?
[01:18] <max1_> no
[01:19] <DaSkreech> try that ;-)
[01:19] <max1_> whats the command?
[01:19] <Blacken> tjako: Sounds like a DNS problem.
[01:19] <DaSkreech> Sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:19] <intelikey> max1_ you can try one more time the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "   and use  "vesa" driver   it should work but be somewhat limited on the rez.
[01:20] <intelikey> oh sorry i was typing not reading.....
[01:20] <max1_> ok, brb
[01:20] <intelikey> DaSkreech max1_ i'm out for a bit.
[01:20] <DaSkreech> OK
[01:20] <DaSkreech> Me and you max1_
[01:20] <tjako> i doubt it is DNS because i have solid ip and downloading files goes very fast, it only takes ages when i type in a url before the page loads
[01:20] <Zaire> is there an alternate way of purging all files from a package aside from apt-get remove package --purge cause that didn't work
[01:21] <soulrider> yes
[01:21] <soulrider> sudo dpkg -P <name?
[01:21] <Zaire> hmm i'll have to try that cause mysql configs aren't being purged and neither are php5's
[01:23] <max1_> no luch
[01:23] <max1_> luck*
[01:24] <DaSkreech> After the apt-get update?
[01:24] <DaSkreech> dist-upgrade?
[01:24] <max1_> yes
[01:26] <DaSkreech> Did you try the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose vesa?
[01:26] <max1_> vesa?
[01:26] <DaSkreech> Yes instead of i810
[01:27] <max1_> i should try that?
[01:27] <DaSkreech> Yes
[01:27] <max1_> ok
[01:27] <max1_> brb
[01:27] <DaSkreech> :-)
[01:28] <max1_> DaSkreech: nothin
[01:29] <DaSkreech> Startx throws what error?
[01:29] <jason__> hello
[01:31] <jason__> what's the proper way of loading kernel modules in a specific order on Edgy?  (in my case, these modules [usbhid, appletouch]  get autoloaded anyway, so I need to do it before hotplug/discover gets around to it, or blacklist the modules and specifically load them in /etc/modules)
[01:32] <max1_> Fatal server error: no screens found  XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":o.o" after 0 requesting (0 known processed) with 0 events running
[01:34] <DaSkreech> max1_: That's the literal error
[01:34] <DaSkreech> :o.o
[01:34] <driz> hey my good friends anyone knows what this means?----->E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:34] <max1_> yes
[01:34] <LjL> driz: close Adept
[01:35] <max1_> \wait
[01:35] <driz> oh ya thanks
[01:35] <max1_> its 0.0
[01:35] <max1_> ":0.0"
[01:35] <max1_> with the " in ti
[01:35] <max1_> it*
[01:35] <DaSkreech> Ah Ok
[01:35] <DaSkreech> Zero point zero then?
[01:35] <DaSkreech> not Oh point Oh ?
[01:35] <max1_> yes
[01:36] <max1_> yes] 
[01:36] <driz> ummmm... i did but it keeps saying it?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> driz: try dpkg --configure -a
[01:36] <DaSkreech> sudo that :)
[01:37] <driz> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[01:37] <driz> thats what i got
[01:37] <cpk2> driz: is adept open?
[01:37] <DaSkreech> driz: Sure you don't have adept/synaptic/dpkg/apt-get/aptitude running elsewhere?
[01:38] <driz> let me try
[01:38] <driz> ps -x
[01:39] <inteliwasp> what is a good gui based text editor that is simaler to notepad and can be opened with a hot key
[01:39] <driz> DaSkreech: i don't see it in the list
[01:39] <LjL> !adept-crash-fix
[01:39] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:39] <DaSkreech> max1_: Hmm
[01:40] <LjL> inteliwasp: anything can be opened with a shortcut key, you just have to set one in System Settings
[01:40] <DaSkreech> Man I'm really hating on Kaffiene
[01:40] <LjL> inteliwasp: as for the editor, i think "kedit" is the most basic
[01:40] <inteliwasp> thanks
[01:41] <driz> LjL: thanks
[01:41] <LjL> inteliwasp: the default Kate is not that bad anyway, imho, even though it does have a few more buttons than Notepad...
[01:41] <soulrider> does anyone know of a program i can use to block IPs and domains ?
[01:41] <soulrider> kind of like peerguardian for windows
[01:42] <soulrider> but easy to add and remove IPs and domainds
[01:42] <soulrider> domains*
[01:42] <LjL> soulrider: you can probably just edit the /etc/hosts.deny file
[01:42] <LjL> soulrider: "man hosts.deny"
[01:42] <soulrider> lol, i didnt know that existed :P
[01:42] <m4x1mum> guys i have install windows after installing kubuntu how to repair the grub?
[01:42] <soulrider> uhm
[01:42] <soulrider> i think i have enough programming skills to make a program to edit it :D
[01:42] <DaSkreech> ryanakca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27045/plain/
[01:43] <DaSkreech> THat's max1_'s xorg.conf
[01:43] <driz> i have this thing---->X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166---> it appears everytime i do some sort of command i have no idea why it comes up or how to fix it
[01:43] <DaSkreech> he's getting an error of Fatal server error: no screens found  XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requesting (0 known processed) with 0 events running
[01:43] <DaSkreech> This is directly after an upgrade to Edgy
[01:43] <gameman73> how can i install eselect or opengl-update
[01:44] <m4x1mum> currently i can only boot to windows, how to make the loader to recognise kubuntu as well? anyone?
[01:47] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: no clue... I used it, but not that much, the config file seems fine... did you try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[01:47] <ryanakca> (or whatever it is now in edgy)?
[01:47] <driz> can anyone check this for me. I got the error after running "sudo apt-get update"
[01:47] <DaSkreech> Hi h3sp4wn
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> hi
[01:47] <driz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27049/
[01:47] <DaSkreech>  h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27045/plain/
[01:47] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: he's getting an error of Fatal server error: no screens found  XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requesting (0 known processed) with 0 events running
[01:47] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Where he == max1_
[01:47] <DaSkreech> ryanakca: Ypu and dropped it back to vesa
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> Option          "XkbModel"      "pc11" (that is wrong)(
[01:48] <ryanakca> odd...
[01:48] <DaSkreech> So I don't think that it's a i810 error anymore
[01:48] <ryanakca> no...
[01:48] <DaSkreech> _max1: You there?
[01:48] <max1_> yes
[01:49] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn is saying that xkbmodel is wrong
[01:49] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: XGL howto's tend to be good at debugging xorg stuff... (imho)... doesn't mean xgl will work with i810, just that they have lot's of troubleshooting info for various vid cards
[01:49] <ryanakca> yeah, shouldn't it be 'pc104' or something along those lines?
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> If I was using i810 I would use edgy
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> (much better intel video drivers in edgy)
[01:50] <Kim^J> How do I turn of singleclick in KDE?
[01:50] <ryanakca> Kim^J: system settings / kcontrol
[01:51] <Kim^J> ryanakca: And then?
[01:51] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: And that would throw a No screens Found Error?
[01:51] <ryanakca> Kim^J: Keyboard & Mouse, Mouse, Icons -> change setting
[01:51] <edytt> help!!! how to make the loader recognise linux again?? i installed windows after installing kubuntu
[01:51] <Zaire> some ppl may wanna read this http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228
[01:51] <Zaire> its about the nvidia kernel
[01:52] <BonBonTheJon> driz: you need to run 'wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add'
[01:52] <ryanakca> edytt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: No but it would probably complain about the keyboard
[01:53] <DaSkreech> !grub > edytt
[01:53] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: So that's not the problem then
[01:54] <driz> BonBonTheJon: it doesn't seem to work?
[01:54] <gameman73> call me stupid, but whats the server glx vendor string supposed to be when your using ati's drivers  (from glxinfo)
[01:55] <driz> W: GPG BonBonTheJon:  error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[01:55] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn, ryanakca: Any Flashes of perception?
[01:55] <BonBonTheJon> driz: ok do 'wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg' to download the gpg
[01:56] <BonBonTheJon> driz: tell me when that is done downloading
[01:56] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: none at the moment... it's probably something tediously simple that we've overlooked... or not :)
[01:57] <DaSkreech> Well that's 4 people now (5 counting max1_)
[01:57] <dbglt> ok
[01:57] <dbglt> just changed all instances of dapper to edgy in my sources.list then ran an update, then a dist-upgrade... I downloaded about 660mb of stuff, and now there are a few packages it can't find
[01:57] <dbglt> and it won't let me continue
[01:57] <driz> BonBonTheJon:
[01:57] <driz> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[01:57] <driz> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:58] <driz> oops sorry
[01:58] <BonBonTheJon> driz: did it download the gpg key
[01:58] <dbglt> firefox, and a few kdegraphics packages and some libpopler thing
[01:58] <dbglt> any way to fix that up? :\
[01:58] <edytt> if i rewrite the windows bootloaded will i be able to boot to windows later?
[01:58] <max1_> \
[01:58] <driz> BonBonTheJon: I'm sure it did
[01:58] <driz> ya
[01:58] <edytt> ?
[01:59] <BonBonTheJon> driz: ok, now run 'sudo apt-key add 12B83718.gpg' to add it
[01:59] <max1_> DaSkreech: ?
[01:59] <driz> BonBonTheJon: it said ok should i run "sudo apt-get update"
[02:00] <BonBonTheJon> edytt: do you mean to have more of a time out
[02:00] <BonBonTheJon> driz:
[02:00] <BonBonTheJon> yes
[02:00] <DaSkreech> edytt: As long as grub can handle it
[02:00] <DaSkreech> max1_: Yes?
[02:00] <max1_> do you not no anything else i could do about my problem?
[02:01] <max1_> know*
[02:01] <driz> BonBonTheJon: ok it's done and it worked. after the update how do i make the full changes? is it "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[02:01] <BonBonTheJon> driz: yeah, if you just got the listings, then upgrade to get the goods
[02:01] <driz> BonBonTheJon: sweet thanks man
[02:02] <BonBonTheJon> driz: glad to be of service
[02:02] <driz> cool :-)
[02:03] <livingdaylight> is it still KDE's Birthday?
[02:03] <BonBonTheJon> livingdaylight: it was on Saturday
[02:03] <livingdaylight> oh... i missed it
[02:04] <livingdaylight> any cake left?
[02:04] <driz> oh man problem!!! >.< The following packages have unmet dependencies: python2.4-dev: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.4.3-0ubuntu4) but 2.4.3-0ubuntu6 is installeE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.d
[02:04] <driz> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[02:06] <BonBonTheJon> driz: sorry, i don't know much about python
[02:07] <driz> BonBonTheJon: ok :(
[02:09] <DaSkreech> max1_: Well I'm going off the xorg.conf idea and so far it seems that's not what is throwing the error
[02:10] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Maybe it could be that there is no program starting up?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> KDM isn
[02:10] <DaSkreech> 't running?
[02:10] <cpk2> driz: try apt-get install -f
[02:10] <max1_> ok
[02:11] <pedro3494> hi
[02:11] <driz> awsome.. :-D works now thanks again
[02:11] <max1_> DaSkreech: do you know what else it could possiblybe?
[02:11] <max1_>  be*
[02:11] <DaSkreech> Well the section about it not having any requests is owrrying to me
[02:12] <BonBonTheJon> hey cpk2
[02:12] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Some people don't use kdm (me included)
[02:12] <cpk2> driz: -f install worked?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: What would X call then?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> It's getting no requests it says which seems fishy to me
[02:13] <cpk2> BonBonTheJon: hi
[02:13] <driz> cpk2: ya
[02:13] <peacekpr> lupine_85: FYI, your suggestion of "sudo swapoff -a" worked for my harddrive partioning issue from LiveCD
[02:13] <peacekpr> much appreciated :)
[02:14] <kkathman> bbiab
[02:14] <driz> I just tried to do those updates listed on the kubuntu website but all i got was an ok how do i get them installed.
[02:14] <BonBonTheJon> driz: what updates
[02:15] <SiLOX> natalia: have u solved your problem with the printserver? :)
[02:16] <driz> BonBonTheJon: i thought i after adding the keys and get those ok everything should be done but i dont think i installed them just added the keys
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: So has X never worked for the case in question ?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: is that busid in the Device section ok?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Wroked great right up unti a dist-upgrade to edgy
[02:16] <driz> i tried the apt-get update and upgrade and nothing happened... Do i have them installed already?
[02:16] <BonBonTheJon> driz: when you run 'sudo apt-get update' does it still give errors
[02:17] <cpk2> driz: what are you trying to install?
[02:17] <BonBonTheJon> driz: you must have the latest versions
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Why ask in here then ? (you were making me think it was dapper)
[02:17] <BonBonTheJon> driz: plus that repository holds mostly codecs for windows files
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: ask whoever to go to ubuntu+1
[02:17] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: I've been asking in +1 but no one seems to say anything :)
[02:17] <driz> no more errors. i was trying to get the new KOffice 1.6 and KDE 3.5.5
[02:18] <cpk2> driz: you can check versions of what you have installed by doing apt-cache policy koffice
[02:18] <peacekpr> does anyone have the *real* solution to the ATI issue?  i'm getting error messages that look like this: "[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT"
[02:18] <DaSkreech> max1_: can You type /join #ubuntu+1
[02:18] <BonBonTheJon> driz: kde 3.5.5 is in a different repo, check the kubuntu web site to add the repo and key
[02:18] <max1_> tom_: you still in here?
[02:19] <peacekpr> i replaced libGL.so.1.2 with a version that supposedly worked.. it did until I rebooted... then it decided to stop working
[02:19] <cpk2> BonBonTheJon: easysource has the latest kde repo
[02:19] <driz> BonBonTheJon: i added the repos and keys as instructed on the website
[02:19] <_kkathman> driz you probably have one for 3.5.4, just change that to 3.5.5  and update/upgrade
[02:19] <DaSkreech> max1_: type /join #ubuntu+1 in irssi
[02:19] <cpk2> its easier to use the latest kde repo so you dont always have to change the version number
[02:19] <driz> cpk2: my koffice is 1.5
[02:19] <max1_> but ive been in here for more than three hours, i dont want to explain for another three hours in another channel
[02:20] <BonBonTheJon> !easysource
[02:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:20] <cpk2> driz: is that the version you wanted? =P
[02:20] <DaSkreech> max1_: someone says they may havea solution
[02:20] <max1_> oh, ok
[02:20] <driz> cpk2: i want the new  ver.1.6
[02:21] <peacekpr> i need to get OpenGL working for my ATI card so I can take the GRE "PowerPrep" practice using wine
[02:21] <cpk2> driz: the repos dont usually have the bleeding edge newest releases
[02:21] <DaSkreech> max1_: Done that?
[02:22] <max1_> yes, im in there
[02:22] <|Mikael|> hi there!
[02:22] <driz> cpk2: oh... but the website has add rhe repoes and keys and i added them iwas guessing they would be there.   oh well i'll try again later
[02:23] <cpk2> driz: i have the kubuntu.org koffice repo and it looks like 1.5.91 is the latest available
[02:24] <driz> oh mine is just the plain 1.5
[02:25] <cpk2> driz: nevermind you are right, you should be able to get 1.6
[02:25] <_kkathman> does anyone know how to suppress that "Popup Blocked" messages that constantly comes up in Konq- its as obnoxious as the popup it self :)
[02:25] <cpk2> driz: you added the repo from the directions on kubuntu.org?
[02:25] <driz> cpk2: have you ever had Adept just stop working at the point where it was suppose to download the stuff.
[02:26] <driz> cpk2: oh and ya i got a OK response after adding them
[02:26] <cpk2> driz: i suppose it might look like that if it cant connect to the site
[02:27] <driz> uh... ok then
[02:27] <cpk2> driz: try using apt-get, you will get more output if there is something wrong
[02:29] <driz> cpk2: apt-get upgrade? i tried many times never mentions koffice
[02:29] <cpk2> driz: and you already did apt-get update?
[02:29] <driz> yupo
[02:30] <cpk2> can you pastebin your sources.list?
[02:30] <Hawkwind> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-16/ dapper main
[02:30] <Hawkwind> driz: Have you tried adding that source ?
[02:30] <driz> Hawkwind: um... no
[02:31] <Hawkwind> driz: If you do, you'll get koffice 1.6
[02:31] <driz> oh ok
[02:31] <driz> i'll do it
[02:31] <_kkathman> hmm is there any configuration in Konq for popup??? hehe
[02:31] <cpk2> Hawkwind: that isnt the first repo listed at kubuntu.org so I was assuming he was using one of the other ones at the top =P
[02:32] <Hawkwind> cpk2: I've had that repo for a while, back when it was beta1.  I just changed the line from -16beta1 to just -16 and it works :P
[02:33] <cpk2> Hawkwind: I would use the kubuntu.org repo too but for some reason they listed that repo at the bottom of their how to to get koffice
[02:34] <flaccid_> what does it mean when in adept, the requested status of an upgradeable package is no change
[02:34] <Hawkwind> cpk2: It means nothing if it's listed at the bottom.  You can't list everything at the top.  Just a matter of how it was typed up is all.  You can use any of them
[02:35] <peacekpr> brb
[02:35] <driz> ya i did using wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg and the one under it
[02:35] <driz> i got an ok and tried update then upgrade and nothing
[02:36] <flaccid_> i get this when doing an apt upgrade:
[02:36] <flaccid_> The following packages have been kept back:  proftpd
[02:38] <flaccid_> !keptback
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keptback - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <cpk2> flaccid_: just install it
[02:39] <cpk2> driz: you needed to add the repos below that too =P
[02:39] <flaccid_> cpk2: ?
[02:40] <driz> cpk2: haha oh ok i'll make sure i do that next time thanks
[02:40] <cpk2> flaccid_: try apt-get install proftpd
[02:40] <flaccid_> cpk2: why is it doing this?
[02:41] <cpk2> it might have broken depends
[02:41] <cpk2> it might break other packages
[02:41] <cpk2> you might have put a hold on it
[02:41] <driz> cpk2: all of the repos? or can you just pick one
[02:41] <flaccid_> ok
[02:42] <cpk2> driz: just one, so the one that Hawkwind gave you will work
[02:42] <flaccid_> i dislike how adept says nothing about it
[02:42] <cpk2> adept might but sometimes it is hard to find the information on adept
[02:42] <driz> awesome thanks a lot guys :-D
[02:44] <driz> ha it's working now.... aah
[02:47] <CNote> hi guys...may I ask for some assistance connecting to a WEP Encrypted AP?
[02:48] <CNote> hi guys...may I ask for some assistance connecting to a WEP Encrypted AP?
[02:49] <Hawkwind> CNote: Just ask your question and no need to repeat yourself every minute or so
[02:50] <CNote> I am getting connection failures when trying to connect to the device, it has a static IP, and I have tried entering the WEP key as ASCII, but each time it fails...
[02:51] <Shnee> CNote: what are using to connect?
[02:52] <CNote> ipw3945 using the 2.6.15-23-686 SMP kernel to a linksys AP
[02:52] <CNote> and trying to use th wireless assistant
[02:52] <Shnee> well the best ways wep are wpa_supplicant or knetworkmanager
[02:53] <CNote> shnee: why do i not see knetworkmanager
[02:53] <Shnee> it doesnt come installed
[02:53] <CNote> hmm
[02:53] <CNote> just apt-get it?
[02:53] <Shnee> yeh
[02:53] <CNote> ok thanks
[02:53] <CNote> I'll mess with it
[02:55] <Shnee> so whats everyones irc program of choice im trying to decide between kopete, konversation, and kvirc
[02:55] <soulrider> i like GAIM for everything but IRC, i use konversation for that
[02:57] <BonBonTheJon> Shnee: konversation for irc
[03:02] <david_> kokp
[03:10] <coreymon77> !seen ceros
[03:10] <ubotu> I last saw ceros (n=user@c-68-49-247-245.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 2d 8h 34m 28s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[03:13] <DaSkreech> Night all
[03:14] <DaSkreech> time for dinner
[03:14] <BonBonTheJon> night
[03:14] <BonBonTheJon> DaSkreech: dinner, where are you at
[03:14] <BonBonTheJon> !seen BonBonTheJon > BonBonTheJon
[03:15] <ubuntu> could someone please help me with a kernel question
[03:15] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: ask away
[03:15] <DaSkreech> BonBonTheJon: You don't wanna know :)
[03:15] <stodge> Hi - what package do I install for video playback? I installed the codecs but is there a backend I need?
[03:16] <BonBonTheJon> stodge: you have some choices, vlc, kmplayer, mplayer, kaffeine
[03:16] <ubuntu> ok i am not a linux user...but i seem to have lost a file from my windows os...and i have all the kernals on disk...how would i go about installing them from linux?
[03:16] <BonBonTheJon> stodge: kaffeine is installed by default, i think
[03:16] <stodge> I have kaffeine, but do I need a backend? gstreamer etc?
[03:17] <BonBonTheJon> stodge: xine, maybe
[03:17] <rawrness> good news i got my internet working again i just ditched the install disk that canicol sent to me so nicly
[03:17] <rawrness> and used the alternet install as i first did
[03:17] <stodge> Ah ok
[03:17] <Vuen> hey, did anyone else's konsole fonts change after the last dist-upgrade?
[03:18] <cpk2> i am pretty sure libxine-extracodecs installs xine too?
[03:18] <ubuntu> cause i know that the linux disc i have boots from a kernel...how do i install windows from the kernal?
[03:19] <gameman73> is it possible to move a window accross xservers running on a machine/
[03:19] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: do you have linux installed already?
[03:19] <ubuntu> yes....but its not userfriendly...well for us anyways
[03:20] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: and does it boot correctly?
[03:20] <ubuntu> yes....linux does...but you see i want to get back to windows
[03:20] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: and get rid of linux?
[03:20] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: or dual-boot so you have both
[03:21] <ubuntu> i dont care if linux is here but i need to restore windows for the wife
[03:21] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Oh wait you installed Linux and Destroyed the WIndows partition?
[03:22] <ubuntu> yeah...but i have a disk with all the windows kernels...the guy at the pc shop said that those would fix it but how?
[03:22] <Shoiab> i have a problem!!! l am un_able to connect with Internet through ubuntu!!! i install Linuxant modem driver!!! with which kubuntu detected my modem!! but when it hang after verifying user-name & password at login to network!!! i feel it unable to start pppd what i di?????
[03:23] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: if you want to clear everything off and put windows back on, then put the windows cd in and delete all the partitions, then have windows make a new partition, and install as normal
[03:23] <ubuntu> i cant find the original windows cd...i have just the i386 folder
[03:23] <rawrness> Ouch
[03:23] <flaccid_> ubuntu: you are stuffed then
[03:24] <cpk2> i think we should get to the root of the problem about how ubuntu isnt user friendly =P
[03:24] <BonBonTheJon> cpk2: that is a topic for a different time, lol
[03:24] <ubuntu> sorry cpk....just harder to learn
[03:24] <ubuntu> have to reboot
[03:24] <FreeT15> Shoiad: try to restart pppd ?
[03:25] <cpk2> ubuntu: no worries, just joking around =) it can be hard to jump in head first for someone using windows their whole life
[03:25] <JumBoBoobs> what is the best burning program that i can use that will convert mp3's back to regular cd-format music for use in a car cd player?
[03:25] <cpk2> JumBoBoobs: k3b
[03:25] <JumBoBoobs> tried it,
[03:26] <JumBoBoobs> says mp3 is unknown format
[03:26] <cpk2> and?
[03:26] <JumBoBoobs> ^^
[03:26] <Shoiab> how i do that
[03:26] <cpk2> can you play mp3s on your computer?
[03:26] <flaccid_> !mp3 > JumBoBoobs
[03:26] <JumBoBoobs> cpk2: yes
[03:26] <cpk2> you have libxine-extracodecs?
[03:26] <FreeT15> Shoiad: you   must list your status of PCI device to show us
[03:26] <intelikey> ok maybe i'm caught up...
[03:27] <JumBoBoobs> flaccid_:  i know waht an mp3 is, i know how make them and use them, just cant get k3b to convert them back to cd format....
[03:27] <BonBonTheJon> JumBoBoobs: you need to install libk3b2-mp3
[03:27] <JumBoBoobs> umm, not sure
[03:27] <JumBoBoobs> i will look
[03:28] <cpk2> intelikey: on?
[03:28] <JumBoBoobs> libxine-extracodecs <--- installed
[03:28] <JumBoBoobs> libk3b2-mp3 <--- installing
[03:28] <intelikey> hmmm?   oh finished a project.
[03:29] <BonBonTheJon> JumBoBoobs: after that installs, k3b should be able to work with mp3s
[03:29] <JumBoBoobs> awome
[03:29] <JumBoBoobs> thank u BonBonTheJon and cpk2
[03:29] <JumBoBoobs> hrm
[03:29] <Shoiab> list your status of PCI device????
[03:29] <JumBoBoobs> the dude from suse was right,boobs get attention :)
[03:30] <intelikey> brad yeah strange aint it.
[03:30] <flaccid_> !libk3b2-mp3
[03:30] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB
[03:30] <flaccid_> hmm yeah JumBoBoobs didn't realise its not mentioned on any of those pages
[03:30] <JumBoBoobs> that worked
[03:30] <JumBoBoobs> awsome
[03:31] <flaccid_> perhaps someone with access to ubotu can make entry for libk3b2-mp3 under !k3bmp3 or something
[03:32] <Shoiab> FreeT15: how i find status of PCI device???
[03:32] <intelikey> !update the bot ?
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update the bot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <Ahmuck> ! update
[03:32] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:32] <Vuen> !ubotu
[03:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:34] <intelikey>  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage  redirrects to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage   so why do they leave the 's' out of it...
[03:34] <Shoiab> FreeT15: how i find status of PCI device???
[03:34] <intelikey> lspci ?
[03:35] <coreymon77> !ubugtu
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubugtu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <luis_lopez> !lspci
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <coreymon77> is ubotu out dated?
[03:36] <intelikey> coreymon77 prolly it's more than a week old.
[03:36] <flaccid_> huh outdated, week old?
[03:36] <intelikey> flaccid_ :)
[03:37] <Shoiab> hmmm; no reply
[03:37] <intelikey> hmmm not quite caught up yet....
[03:43] <prophit> can anyone walk me through on how to install azureus?
[03:44] <cpk2> sudo apt-get install azureus
[03:44] <cpk2> thats it
[03:44] <prophit> whats that cpk?
[03:44] <cpk2> thats the walk through on installing azureus
[03:44] <prophit> do i just type that into the shell?
[03:44] <cpk2> yup
[03:45] <cpk2> you will probably want to go get the 2.5 jar from sourceforge though since the azureus repo is a little old
[03:45] <Shoiab>  i have a problem!!! l am un_able to connect with Internet through ubuntu!!! i install Linuxant modem driver!!! with which kubuntu detected my modem!! but when it hang after verifying user-name & password at login to network!!! i feel it unable to start pppd what i di?????
[03:50] <rawrness> jfun
[03:50] <lters_> Shoiab: try to do a dial with minicom
[03:53] <gl0be> how do I reconfigure xserver when installing a new video card?  Onboard intel -> agp nvidia
[03:53] <lters_> gl0be: x still runing?
[03:54] <gl0be> lters_: no...it fails miserably
[03:54] <lters_> n/p
[03:54] <gl0be> I am chatting from term irc...:-)
[03:54] <lters_> sudo apt-get install vim
[03:54] <gl0be> I have vim
[03:54] <lters_> fancy
[03:54] <lters_> k, good
[03:54] <lters_> colors turned on?
[03:54] <gl0be> indeed
[03:55] <Jucato> gl0be: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:55] <lters_> even better.
[03:55] <gl0be> Jucato: I believe tahtI tried that one already
[03:55] <lters_> what video card is it?
[03:56] <gl0be> nvidia fx 5200 128mb
[03:56] <lters_> lsmod | grep nvidia
[03:56] <lters_> that will show if the modiule/driver is loaded.
[03:56] <gl0be> do I have to do anything with the video bus since I have 2x video cards (onboard + new agp)?
[03:56] <lters_> ah, hmm
[03:57] <Jucato> gl0be: not really. afaik, the AGP overrides the IGP
[03:57] <lters_> is that what the PCI line is about.
[03:57] <lters_> did u do the lsmod test?
[03:57] <gl0be> lsmod | grep nvidia returns nothing
[03:57] <lters_> k, do modprobe nvidia
[03:57] <Jucato> gl0be: you probably don't have the "nvidia" driver installed. use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then select the "nv" driver first
[03:58] <gl0be> Yea, I did that about an hour ago....it detected and selected that driver for me
[03:58] <lters_> Jucato: does the nvidia-glx include the module?
[03:58] <Jucato> lters_: nvidia module? yes
[03:59] <lters_> gl0be: did the modprobe work?
[03:59] <Jucato> but gl0be needs to install the linux-restricted-modules matching his linux-image version for nvidia-glx (non-free driver) to work
[03:59] <gl0be> lters_: ?
[03:59] <intelikey> more like depends on it.
[03:59] <lters_> gl0be: dmesg | tail should show something
[03:59] <gl0be> oh ... I didn't see that.
[03:59] <lters_> gl0be: modprobe nvidia
[04:00] <gl0be> lters
[04:00] <gl0be>  I did the modprobe...it justreturned.
[04:00] <lters_> gl0be: good, do the "dmseg | tail
[04:00] <lters_> dmesg
[04:00] <Jucato> (without the quotes)
[04:00] <lters_> yeah
[04:00] <Jucato> :)
[04:01] <gl0be> I did that too, and nothnig about the video card...bluetooth mainly
[04:01] <Jucato> gl0be: did you install nvidia-glx?
[04:01] <gl0be> no.
[04:02] <lters_> Jucato: is there a nifty way to get the winmodem driver for a thinkpad
[04:03] <lters_> gl0be: u will have to install the nvidia-glx
[04:03] <Jucato> er... um... no clue :(
[04:03] <intelikey> Jucato is that a edgy salamander system ?
[04:03] <gl0be> I got it working with the nv driver.  I think that the problem was that I had kernel framebuffering enabled
[04:03] <lters_> conexion or somthing.
[04:03] <gl0be> thats a guess though
[04:03] <rawrness> whats the one app that emutes a quake terminal it like  yakue or such
[04:03] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:03] <Jucato> intelikey: heh :P
[04:03] <BonBonTheJon> !yakue
[04:03] <cpk2> yakuake i think
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <Jucato> it's a quad-colored butterfly system :)
[04:03] <rawrness> !yakuake
[04:03] <BonBonTheJon> !yakuake
[04:03] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[04:04] <Jucato> !yakuake > BonBonTheJon
[04:04] <cpk2> i win!
[04:04] <rawrness> there we go thanks
[04:04] <Jucato> lol
[04:04] <gl0be> Jucato: lters_: thanks for your help
[04:04] <Jucato> cpk2: only because of a technicality :P
[04:04] <cpk2> hehe
[04:04] <prophit> ok <cpk2>....i followed the instructions on how to install flashplayer 7 but it just keeps saying that the package could not be found
[04:04] <lters_> n/p Gotta love linux
[04:04] <prophit> please help
[04:05] <BonBonTheJon> has anyone heard from the user ubuntu who was trying to fix his windows installation
[04:05] <T3hWiz0r1> BonBonTheJon: we ate him.
[04:06] <rawrness> very tasty
[04:06] <BonBonTheJon> T3hWiz0r1: NOOOOOOOOOO
[04:06] <Jucato> lol. he should have changed his nick to kubuntu to avoid getting digested
[04:06] <rawrness> XD
[04:06] <rawrness> gnomes always taste good
[04:06] <prophit> bonbob thats me
[04:06] <cpk2> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[04:06] <Jucato> dragons love eating gnomes, eh? :)
[04:06] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:06] <prophit> right here
[04:06] <T3hWiz0r1> T3hWiz0rd: LEAVE! NOW!
[04:07] <Jucato> lol
[04:07] <Vuen> why is it that we don't have a free version of the flash plugin? is it not legal or something?
[04:07] <cpk2> prophit: do you have multiverse enabled?
[04:07] <prophit> i have no clue...how would i check?
[04:07] <intelikey> !restricted
[04:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:08] <NightBird> mmmmogg
[04:08] <cpk2> prophit: pastebin your sources.list
[04:08] <prophit> pastebun??????????????/
[04:08] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:08] <intelikey> !paste
[04:08] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin
[04:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:08] <intelikey> lol
[04:08] <Jucato> i win this time :)
[04:08] <BonBonTheJon> lol
[04:09] <NightBird> wow... pastebin is popular...
[04:09] <intelikey> Jucato not on my screen....
[04:09] <Jucato> doesn't matter :P
[04:09] <NightBird> Jucato won on my screen
[04:09] <BonBonTheJon> my screen says i won
[04:09] <intelikey> but i'm sure you did.
[04:09] <Jucato> Vuen: you might want to have a look at this page for Ubuntu's definition of "non-free": http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[04:09] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: day 3 hmmm... kubuntu lives.
[04:10] <cpk2> Jucato won on my screen
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd> kkathman: rawr
[04:10] <prophit> ok have the pastebun thing open but where are my sources?
[04:10] <Vuen> Jucato: i understand what non free means
[04:10] <Jucato> ok. I won. end of discussion :)
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd> prophit: apt-get sources?
[04:10] <Vuen> i understand the difference between free speech and free beer, thanks
[04:10] <cpk2> prophit: do cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd you haven't been playing with it eeeh ?
[04:10] <Zaire> hey cpk2 what do I have to change on this aside from pass SET PASSWORD FOR 'bob'@'%.loc.gov' = PASSWORD('newpass');
[04:10] <cpk2> prophit: or kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: theres only so much i change on linux installs to fit my needs.
[04:11] <Jucato> Vuen: no. that page is more than that distinction. that page explains which packages go into which repository (main, restricted, universe, multiverse)
[04:11] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: my primary needs revolve around security, music playback, stability, and quick web browsing.
[04:11] <Zaire> well pass and name
[04:11] <Vuen> Jucato: i know that too, why are you telling me this?
[04:11] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: but i also play in the terminal... but i install vmware servers for the really crazzzy stuff i try lol
[04:11] <Vuen> i'm asking why no one has written an open source replacement for flash. is it because it wouldn't be legal?
[04:11] <Zaire> ?
[04:12] <cpk2> Zaire: i dont know, i'm not sure if % is supposed to be a wildcard or just acting as foo
[04:12] <Jucato> Vuen: there's always Gnash
[04:12] <flaccid_> what config file(s) does konsole use?
[04:12] <Jucato> flaccid_: what do you mean?
[04:12] <Zaire> well the line I coppied is from the mysql site
[04:12] <flaccid_> Jucato: configuration files for its settings
[04:13] <cpk2> Zaire: and you would need to have an account named bob already made
[04:13] <ssh12543> who can conect here ?(ssh) I give password. help plz
[04:13] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: i try not to break the liunux install I primarily work off of or else its back to using my ibook full time and I hate even trying to do that to my poor ol' lappy
[04:13] <Jucato> flaccid_: ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc I presume?
[04:13] <cpk2> ssh12543: you dont want to do that
[04:13] <flaccid_> Jucato: is that all?
[04:13] <Zaire> I did a format and fresh install of kubuntu
[04:13] <prophit> ok i did that pastebin thing but how are you going to look at it?
[04:13] <cpk2> prophit: paste the location here
[04:13] <ssh12543> cpk2: I need
[04:14] <prophit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27058/
[04:14] <Jucato> flaccid_: well, that would contain the changes the user made. system/admin config files would probably be in /etc/kde3 or /usr/share/. not really sure (not on Linux right now)
[04:14] <Vuen> !Gnash
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <BonBonTheJon> ssh12543: what do you need help with
[04:14] <Zaire> my question though is what is the .loc.gov part of that command for?
[04:14] <Jucato> Vuen: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd> T3hWiz0r1 << wtf? lol
[04:15] <dude> hello
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd> i thought i kicked that out?
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd> wait... lol....
[04:15] <dude> guys
[04:15] <ssh12543> BonBonTheJon: I need test one p2p server. the ssh is the client. you can download the files whith ftp
[04:15] <cpk2> Zaire: oh, the loc.gov is on the mysql help page?
[04:15] <ssh12543> cpk2: I need test one p2p server. the ssh is the client. you can download the files whith ftp
[04:15] <Zaire> cpk2: yea
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd> rofl-copter, i had irssi screened and forgot
[04:15] <cpk2> Zaire: then use your domain
[04:16] <Zaire> so replace that with localhost then
[04:16] <BonBonTheJon> ssh12543: so you have two machines, one running an ftp server, the other is trying to transfer files?
[04:16] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: DUDDEE! whats up!
[04:17] <dude> t3hwizord: cool
[04:17] <Shoia1> 
[04:17] <Shoia1> The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!
[04:17] <Shoia1> Exit status: 1
[04:17] <Shoia1> See 'man pppd' for an explanation of the error codes or take a look at the kppp FAQ on http://developer.kde.org/~kppp/index.html
[04:17] <ssh12543> BonBonTheJon: no. 1 server. ftp and p2p client running in 1 machine
[04:17] <cpk2> Zaire: so i guess the name of the computer you are connecting from or its ip would probably work
[04:17] <Shoia1> i get that error
[04:17] <dude> t3hwizord: have you tried beryl?
[04:17] <Zaire> k i'll have to try that
[04:18] <Shoia1> what i du
[04:18] <t3hwiz0rd> nope, I am not really interested in XGL because it is too buggy and can break linux.
[04:18] <Shoia1> im ubuntu
[04:18] <t3hwiz0rd> I've used Compiz and XGL before, and it ate my system.
[04:18] <BonBonTheJon> ssh12543: what is on machine 1
[04:18] <t3hwiz0rd> BonBonTheJon: he said both are on the same machine
[04:18] <dude> t3hwizord: veryl is different from compiz ryt?
[04:19] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: to some degree, but you are still using very beta software.
[04:19] <cpk2> prophit: see this line? # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe delete the # and add multiverse to the end of it
[04:19] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: you need to be prepared for it to do the worst possible.
[04:19] <BonBonTheJon> Shoia1: were we helping you with your windows install before
[04:19] <dude> t3hwizord: well im planing to use beryl nut im still afraid hehehe
[04:19] <cpk2> prophit: so do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and then edit it
[04:19] <dude> t3hwizord: well im planing to use beryl but im still afraid hehehe
[04:19] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: its a good idea to fear xgl right now.
[04:20] <t3hwiz0rd> theres really thing in it essential to you, so why not wait until a final release yanno?
[04:20] <ssh12543> BonBonTheJon: FTP server, p2p server. the p2p server download the files and save in ftp. you connect can p2p server in ssh
[04:20] <ssh12543> BonBonTheJon: enter in #ssh123 for password
[04:21] <dude> t3hwizord: i need vmaware to elimanate dual booting, i installed it but i don't know how to use it
[04:21] <t3hwiz0rd> ssh12543: ftp is a really insecure transfer type.
[04:21] <Shoia1> i am not able to understand what you say??? bonbon
[04:21] <intelikey> pfft  no wonder you boast of ubuntu still being running t3hwiz0rd,  you don't even use the new apps/drivers.  (hehhe xgl)
[04:22] <intelikey> :)
[04:22] <dude> i need a complete transition from xp to kubuntu
[04:23] <intelikey> !p2p
[04:23] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[04:23] <cpk2> dude: how is vmware going to help you get rid of windows?
[04:24] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: vmware server is free to download.
[04:25] <dude> cpk2: as of now im still using some of windows application
[04:25] <intelikey> !vmware
[04:25] <unix_infidel> i fail to see how being virtually rooted is less bad than being physically rooted if its a production setup.
[04:25] <prophit> anyone here use xandros?
[04:25] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[04:25] <ssh12543> bobesponja: ola, voce aqui ? sou MnB Linuxer
[04:25] <cpk2> dude: and wine cant help you there?
[04:25] <Jucato> hm.. that wiki is for VMWare Player I think
[04:25] <t3hwiz0rd> with vmware do usb devices work in windows on it?
[04:25] <prophit> is this the only channel on irc?....
[04:25] <intelikey> unix_infidel "physically rooted" ???
[04:25] <unix_infidel> !br > ssh12543
[04:25] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: some, but only as usb1 - not high speed.
[04:26] <unix_infidel> !br
[04:26] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:26] <dude> cpk2: hmmm, its kinda slow 4 me
[04:26] <cpk2> prophit: did you edit you sources.list?
[04:26] <cpk2> dude: and emulation is faster?
[04:26] <prophit> eidt them...i dont even know what they are
[04:26] <BonBonTheJon> Shoia1: were you in here before asking how to fix your windows installation
[04:26] <cpk2> [19:20]  <cpk2> prophit: see this line? # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe delete the # and add multiverse to the end of it
[04:26] <cpk2> [19:21]  <cpk2> prophit: so do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and then edit it
[04:27] <t3hwiz0rd> LeeJunFan: well if uvc wecams worked on linux i'd be done using windows 100%
[04:27] <dude> cpk2: never tried emulation, that's why i trying to use vmware...
[04:27] <dude> cpk2: never tried emulation, that's why im trying to use vmware...
[04:27] <cpk2> ... vmware is emulation
[04:27] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: webcam's are cheap now, get a new one :)
[04:27] <t3hwiz0rd> LeeJunFan: my fusion is one of the best on the market, i refuse to downgrade for linux :-)
[04:27] <intelikey> there is no default *buntu system that isn't ch/pivot-rooted.  the real root is the ramdisk that the initrd.img sets up.
[04:28] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: it's not downgrading if it works with linux and the other doesn't :p
[04:28] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: I would consider using windows for your web cam downgrading.
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd> LeeJunFan: yes, as far as video quality goes, it would be a downgrade if i went to a lower one. Its that type of zealot attitude that makes linux suck in some of the areas it dos.
[04:29] <intelikey> heh from propritary to open is always an upgrade
[04:29] <Zaire> apt for some reason doesn't seem to be able to find the pbpbb2-conf-mysql package
[04:29] <BonBonTheJon> t3hwiz0rd: have you looked into http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[04:29] <t3hwiz0rd> yeah, BonBonTheJon, buggy can't seem to get it to work
[04:30] <cpk2> !info phpbb2-conf-mysql
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: well it (windows) seems like overkill as a 1.5GB driver for your webcam though.
[04:30] <ubotu> phpbb2-conf-mysql: Automatic configurator for phpbb2 on MySQL database. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-2 (dapper), package size 45 kB, installed size 124 kB
[04:30] <Zaire> apt also can't seem to find phpbb2 either
[04:30] <prophit> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse                  is that what i should have?
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: although HP's printer driver downloads are approaching that size these days :)
[04:30] <Jucato> prophit: yes
[04:31] <cpk2> dude: correct me if I am wrong but vmware should be slower than wine
[04:31] <prophit> ok
[04:31] <Zaire> actually vmwares not half bad but for games big no no
[04:31] <prophit> is that all i have to do?
[04:31] <intelikey> Zaire phpbb2-conf-mysql exists
[04:31] <unix_infidel> well, its "near native" virtualization.
[04:31] <intelikey> phpbb2 - A fully featured and skinnable flat (non-threaded) webforum
[04:31] <unix_infidel> and wine is emulation.
[04:31] <unix_infidel> they arent comparable.
[04:31] <Zaire> I know but my kubuntu seems not to
[04:31] <Jucato> cpk2: it should be. but there are so many things that Wine can't do that VMWare can
[04:31] <dude> cpk2: im using remote desktop, limewire, ftp client, and some windows application that i wanna eliminate,
[04:32] <intelikey> wine is not emulation
[04:32] <unix_infidel> or rather, i'm wrong, wine is not emulation.
[04:32] <Jucato> unix_infidel: wine = Wine Is Not an Emulator
[04:32] <intelikey> wine is wine is not an emulator
[04:32] <unix_infidel> :P
[04:32] <dude> i want complete transition
[04:32] <unix_infidel> yea, i dont know where that came from.
[04:32] <dude> i want acomplete transition
[04:32] <unix_infidel> i should say vmware is near native,
[04:32] <LeeJunFan> dude: krdc for remote desktop
[04:32] <unix_infidel> wine is an attempt at native.
[04:32] <prophit> how to i find a list of rooms on here
[04:32] <dude> LeeJunFan: i can't configure krdc
[04:33] <prophit> or a channel list?
[04:33] <intelikey> prophit don't  /list
[04:33] <Zaire> apparently I still had repo's commented
[04:33] <prophit> dont /list
[04:33] <intelikey> no don't
[04:33] <cpk2> intelikey: I manage to /list without any problems?
[04:33] <unix_infidel> prophit: google freenode and searchirc
[04:33] <Zaire> there we go it found phpbb2
[04:33] <TFrog> has anyone here tried the program kstreamripper?
[04:33] <dude> cpk2: i installed wine but its not working
[04:34] <intelikey> cpk2 ;/
[04:34] <cpk2> !work
[04:34] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:35] <dude> cpk2: actually, im beginning to love ubuntu/kubuntu, the only problem is the application, i need to integrate some of the windows apps to kubuntu
[04:36] <cpk2> dude: but why isnt wine working?
[04:36] <intelikey> why ?
[04:36] <BonBonTheJon> dude: what programs
[04:36] <crazykoga> oh hi
[04:36] <crazykoga> what the hell is this?
[04:36] <prophit> ok how do i join the rooms
[04:36] <BonBonTheJon> crazykoga: hi
[04:36] <crazykoga> this is so cute
[04:36] <crazykoga> lol
[04:36] <cpk2> prophit: /join room
[04:36] <Jucato> prophit: /join #channel
[04:36] <crazykoga> hi
[04:36] <cpk2> prophit: try /join #ubuntu
[04:36] <crazykoga> can someone tell
[04:36] <crazykoga> brb
[04:36] <intelikey> this is a help channel
[04:37] <dude> bonbon: ftp client which is stable, remote desktop,
[04:37] <intelikey> ftp is stable
[04:38] <intelikey> ncftp
[04:38] <BonBonTheJon> dude: how about vnc?
[04:38] <dude> cpk2: how do you use wine, i mean procedure
[04:38] <dude> bonbon: vnc?
[04:38] <intelikey> tight-vnc
[04:38] <BonBonTheJon> !vnc
[04:38] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[04:38] <intelikey> !tight-vnc
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tight-vnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <cpk2> dude: first get a more up to date repo from winehq and then install it with apt-get
[04:38] <cpk2> dude: also winehq has a DB of apps that work with it
[04:38] <dude> cpk2: can i use adept for that
[04:39] <cpk2> dude: yes
[04:39] <BonBonTheJon> dude: have you tried gftp
[04:39] <intelikey> kong does ftp too
[04:40] <intelikey> gentoo does ftp
[04:40] <dude> bonbon; yes, is there a cute ftp for kubuntu? : )
[04:40] <BonBonTheJon> !freenx
[04:40] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:40] <cpk2> isnt konq a ftp client?
[04:40] <intelikey> konqueror does ftp
[04:40] <prophit> oi how do i register my name on nickserv?
[04:40] <intelikey> yes
[04:40] <dude> i can't configure freenx either
[04:40] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[04:41] <Zaire> damn I was so close I got the root account it was going through the process to start creating the database and bang error could not create tables, erro when connecting to the mysql database
[04:41] <dude> cpk2: can you instruct me
[04:41] <dude> cpk2: on how to use wine
[04:41] <cpk2> dude: if you told us what the actual problems were we might be able to help you get this stuff working
[04:41] <cpk2> dude: what are you trying to install with wine?
[04:42] <dude> cpk2: it is already installed
[04:42] <cpk2> Zaire: is mysql running?
[04:42] <dude> !freenx
[04:42] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:42] <Zaire> as far as I know yep
[04:44] <t3hwiz0rd> BonBonTheJon: see i've done the driver install a few times even reinstalled and double checked, it just doesn't seem to work.
[04:44] <dude> cpk2: using wine, how do i use it
[04:44] <Zaire> yep its on
[04:44] <cpk2> Zaire: but you managed to change the root password?
[04:44] <BonBonTheJon> t3hwiz0rd: i dunno, i dont have a webcam
[04:44] <Zaire> well I had to create the root account first but yes
[04:45] <cpk2> dude: wine usethis.exe
[04:45] <dude> can some one guide me in installing freenx
[04:45] <intelikey> dude in a terminal you type in " wine /path/to/file.exe "  that you want to run.
[04:45] <dude> cpk2: terminal window?
[04:45] <Vuen> dude, there's a great guide on ubuntuguide, hold on
[04:45] <cpk2> dude: what intelikey said
[04:45] <Vuen> dude, do you want freenx, because the nomachine nx software is a lot better
[04:46] <Vuen> here's a tutorial on installing nomachine nx:
[04:46] <Vuen> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX
[04:46] <Zaire> mysql> CREATE DATABASE PHPBB2;
[04:46] <Zaire> Query OK, 1 row affected (0.01 sec)
[04:47] <Vuen> it's faster and more stable than freenx, but it's proprietary
[04:47] <Vuen> and it only lets you use up to two sessions at once i think
[04:47] <Vuen> i use it, it works great
[04:48] <intelikey> Vuen is that quite different than tightvnc ?
[04:48] <cpk2> Zaire: that means it worked
[04:48] <cpk2> Zaire: btw the name of the database you are creating doesnt have to be caps
[04:49] <Vuen> intelikey: yes. tightvnc lets you connect to the session in progress, while nx creates a new session
[04:49] <Zaire> cept the phpbb2-con-mysql seemingly can't populate it
[04:49] <intelikey> tightvncserver - virtual network computing server software
[04:49] <Vuen> so someone else can be using your computer while you are working through nx
[04:49] <dude_> cpk2: terminal window?
[04:49] <dude_> can some one guide me in installing freenx
[04:49] <intelikey> ah ok.
[04:49] <t3hwiz0rd> vnc is a disease.
[04:49] <Vuen> or your computer can remain locked while you use nx, and people at the local machine won't be able to log in or affect what you're doing
[04:49] <Vuen> dude: i just gave you a link to installing nx
[04:49] <dude_> what if the program is in the program files directory
[04:49] <Vuen> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX
[04:50] <Vuen> intelikey: nx is also much faster than vnc. it gives you near-local speed, even on slow connections
[04:50] <dude_> can some one guide me in installing freenx
[04:50] <Zaire> dude: go into a command console and type sudo apt-get install <package>
[04:50] <Vuen> it's amazing and wonderful. lets me have my desktop anywhere
[04:50] <Vuen> dude: i just gave you a link twice now. why are you still asking?
[04:50] <Vuen> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX
[04:51] <Vuen> intelikey: nx is graphical :)
[04:51] <intelikey> i'm not.
[04:51] <Vuen> it connects through ssh, so it's all encrypted
[04:51] <Vuen> fullscreen graphical environment
[04:51] <Vuen> literally like you're sitting right in front of your computer
[04:51] <intelikey> Zaire hehhe you don't like ssh  :)
[04:52] <intelikey> ah
[04:52] <Vuen> what's with the /me?
[04:53] <intelikey> guess your use of "the shiz" is strange to me.
[04:53] <Zaire> lol
[04:54] <intelikey> Zaire note.  there is no enflection in the voice in IRC
[04:54] <t3hwiz0rd> is freeNX anymore secure than vnc by chance?
[04:54] <dude_> it is hard for me to follow instruction in linux, first time to use this OS
[04:55] <Zaire> dunno
[04:55] <Kyral> t3hwiz0rd:  yes
[04:55] <dude_> :)
[04:55] <intelikey> both use ssh
[04:55] <Dr_willis> It pays to read a few dozen beginners guides. :)
[04:55] <Zaire> so then not really any diff other then vnc is easier to grab
[04:55] <dude_> Dr_WIllis: hi
[04:55] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: it's basically the same, though it's easier to configure
[04:55] <t3hwiz0rd> oh... Hmmm
[04:55] <Vuen> vnc natively has no encryption, but you can set it up to tunnel through ssh
[04:55] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: when you log in as a client does it take you to the log in screen?
[04:55] <Vuen> whereas nx uses ssh natively
[04:56] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: yep
[04:56] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: let me check it out heh
[04:56] <Vuen> also, guys, freeNX != NX
[04:56] <Vuen> NX is a protocol for remote desktop
[04:56] <Vuen> freeNX is an open source server/client package that uses it
[04:56] <Zaire> to me vnc is something I would only use local never outside line for that I would use ssh alone
[04:56] <Vuen> a proprietary software that uses NX is called NoMachine NX
[04:56] <duende> Help: Does anyone know if Edgy has a text-mode installer?  And if so, how do I access it?
[04:56] <dude_> vuen: i should install the freenx server first
[04:56] <crazykoga> hi hi
[04:56] <Dr_willis> duende,  the alternatve-installer cd is the text mode installer cd
[04:57] <crazykoga> so people what is this
[04:57] <intelikey> nx ?= native X
[04:57] <duende> Dr_willis, ahh shoot, thanks :)
[04:57] <Vuen> it's faster and more stable, and free beer, but proprietary
[04:57] <Vuen> dude, no, you should not install freenx
[04:57] <Dr_willis> duende,  dont ask me why they couldent fit the text intaller on the live cd as well. :(
[04:57] <crazykoga> hi people
[04:57] <Vuen> Zaire: you can tunnel vnc through ssh, so it's just as secure as ssh
[04:57] <crazykoga> lol
[04:58] <Zaire> well if you think about it how many ports do you want to open for possible attackers
[04:58] <duende> Dr_willis, yeah, that would be nice.  Even if you could just add "text" at the end of the kernel line or something :)
[04:58] <Vuen> duende: yes, you need the alternative cd
[04:58] <t3hwiz0rd> Zaire: you should always simply change default ports.
[04:58] <Dr_willis> duende,  yea.. installers always need tweaking.. ubuntu's is useable.. but could use work.
[04:58] <intelikey> Dr_willis i mentioned that at a board meeting, they said maybe next release.
[04:58] <t3hwiz0rd> Zaire: and turn out outside pings on your router.
[04:58] <Zaire> true
[04:58] <t3hwiz0rd> Zaire: right there you stop over 90% at the door, in my humble.
[04:59] <Vuen> Zaire: dude, you don't need to open your vnc port
[04:59] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  i also dont see the point in putting windows sofware on the live cd... perhaps a link/web page TO the stuff...
[04:59] <Vuen> you SHOULDN'T open your vnc port
[04:59] <Vuen> you have just ssh open
[04:59] <Zaire> but for http I keep the defaults and for ftp cause its easier
[04:59] <duende> Dr_willis, is there any minimalistic image so i don't have to re-download a full cd image?
[04:59] <intelikey> that is.  a cli installer script on the live.
[04:59] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: is that how it loads up? via the ssh port?
[04:59] <Vuen> and have vnc listen for connections ONLY from localhost
[04:59] <Dr_willis> duende,  never noticed. I just downlaoded the edgy beta last night. :)
[04:59] <Vuen> then you connect through ssh and tunnel the vnc port
[04:59] <intelikey> windows software Dr_willis ?
[04:59] <Vuen> VNC can be just as secure as SSH
[04:59] <Vuen> and just as secure as NX
[04:59] <Zaire> windows highly insecure for server apps
[05:00] <Vuen> i don't use VNC because it's slow and it sucks
[05:00] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  look on the ubuntu/kubuntu? live cd.. they include several GPL windows packages , Abiword, and others...
[05:00] <Vuen> and it doesn't give me a new session
[05:00] <intelikey> abiword was requested.  what others ?
[05:00] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: yes, nx connects through the ssh port
[05:00] <Vuen> you don't need to open any extra ports, and you don't need to run a separate ssh session
[05:01] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: hmm... But what about a stupid person on windows trying to connect in? would it be easy for them to do?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  not sure.. i dont feel they should be there. heh heh...  Thats what 'The Open CD' is for.. but now THATS became a live cd as well last i looked.
[05:01] <intelikey> there were several requests for abiword   but i don't know why they have both abi and oo
[05:02] <Lunar_Raven> !bittornado
[05:02] <ubotu> bittornado: bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.13-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 151 kB, installed size 848 kB
[05:02] <intelikey> one or the other but both ?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Heck - i dont even want OO on the normal install. :)
[05:02] <_rockstar> Hm, just installed the Edgy 64 bit version, and KDM doesn't want to let me into KDE...  Just a blank screen and back to login.  Any ideas?
[05:02] <intelikey> yeah that's my point.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> but that aint going to happen. :)
[05:02] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: sure it would. the nomachine client is cross-platform
[05:02] <Vuen> and you don't need an ssh client
[05:02] <Vuen> just the nx client
[05:02] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: ah okay... i installed it, but i can't find it lol
[05:02] <Vuen> what did you install?
[05:03] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: freenx
[05:03] <intelikey> :)
[05:03] <Vuen> on your linux box?
[05:03] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: yuppers
[05:03] <Vuen> yeah, uninstall that
[05:03] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: ..why?
[05:03] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: i am trying to get it served from here.
[05:03] <Vuen> read this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX
[05:04] <intelikey> cause he don't like it
[05:04] <Vuen> install nomachine nx instead of freenx
[05:05] <t3hwiz0rd> okay
[05:05] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: the intstructions make bad sense to me though lol
[05:06] <Vuen> The following instructions will install the free version of NX server from Nomachine. We do NOT recommend attempting to use FreeNX (open source) server at this time, because of the difficulty many users have had in getting it to work. Should it become easier to install FreeNX and to get it working reliably, we may modify these instructions accordingly.
[05:06] <driz> hey guys i'm trying to install a tar.gz file ./configure doesn't work neither does make
[05:06] <driz> >?
[05:06] <Blacken> I can't remember offhand, but is there a CLI utility that will autodetect operating systems on partitions and rewrite boot.lst?
[05:06] <driz> help
[05:06] <Blacken> Similar to the Debian/Ubuntu installer's little trick.
[05:06] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: what does it mean in the "download these files from" part
[05:07] <Vuen> it means exactly what it says
[05:07] <Vuen> click the links, download the files
[05:07] <intelikey> hey.  i have a strange question.  (most of mine are)  if i have one account with no passwd, is there any way to use that account over ssh ?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> driz,  install the build-essential package for a start
[05:08] <intelikey> and nosuid that ^
[05:08] <Blacken> intelikey: I believe it will fail out, but a blank password may work.
[05:08] <Vuen> intelikey: yeah, you can tell ssh what accounts you want to use or not use, but that's almost certainly a bad idea
[05:08] <Dr_willis> ya could set up the ssh to use the keys stuff couldent ya.
[05:08] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: ahh oaky i get it now.
[05:08] <Vuen> ssh without a password = bad
[05:08] <driz> ok, how?
[05:08] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: oops i closed the window
[05:08] <intelikey> Vuen i have lot's of "bad ideas"   :)
[05:08] <Vuen> driz: a tar.gz file is just an archive
[05:08] <Vuen> type tar -xvsf <filename>
[05:09] <crazykoga> ho
[05:09] <crazykoga> hi
[05:09] <driz> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[05:09] <intelikey> Vuen and yes. i would use a kernel that can handel security breaches if i was going to do that.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> driz,  what are you trying to isntall anyway?
[05:10] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen:   Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
[05:10] <intelikey> driz that's too late.  look above it to the error that caused that.
[05:10] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[05:10] <driz> Dr_willis: firefox rc2
[05:11] <Vuen> do that until you have all the dependencies
[05:11] <Dr_willis> driz you are planing on compiling firefox?
[05:11] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: i got it
[05:11] <Dr_willis> and you dont even know how to uncompress a tar archive.. Ick. :)
[05:12] <t3hwiz0rd> okay its almost installed.
[05:12] <driz> intelikey:   tar: This does not look like a tar archive
[05:12] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: cool
[05:12] <driz> Dr_willis: ...
[05:12] <Dr_willis> dont sound like you downloaded the right file.. or its a bad download
[05:13] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: once you finish the walkthrough, run the nx client, and try connecting to localhost 22
[05:13] <crazykoga> hi people
[05:13] <Vuen> set it to fullscreen for great effect
[05:13] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: okay, i hope theres an nx client for os x lol
[05:13] <Vuen> once it works, try it on a friend's computer
[05:13] <Vuen> yes, there is
[05:13] <driz> i know i downloaded the right from their websites
[05:13] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-macosx.php
[05:13] <intelikey> driz then it may be incomplete.  or an executable wrapped around an archive....
[05:14] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: if you have a dynamic dns, you'll need to set up a static hostname
[05:14] <Smotang> Hello World! This is my first Time on IRC and I just installed Ubuntu!
[05:14] <Vuen> use dyndns.org and ddclient
[05:14] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: how do you stop and restart it?
[05:14] <Smotang> So is this a general chat or a help channel?
[05:15] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: stop and restart what?
[05:15] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: nx
[05:15] <driz> intelikey: oh no it's fine i'm sure
[05:15] <Vuen> Smotang: it's a general kubuntu chat or a help channel :)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> driz,  if you really MUST try the firefox2 alpha stuff - you may want to check out   http://klik.atekon.de/  - and install it using the klik system.. at least that way it shouldent screw up much :P you can install it just for a single user.
[05:15] <Smotang> vuen: thanks
[05:15] <Smotang> What program in Ubuntu would be used to play MP3's?
[05:15] <intelikey> driz tar is not bad to error out on a real/complete tar archive....
[05:15] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: sudo /etc/init.d/nxserver restart
[05:16] <intelikey> driz what's the command you ran ?
[05:16] <Vuen> but you'll also need to restart ssh once you configure it to use the nx keys file
[05:16] <rawrness> will not amaorak work in gnome?
[05:16] <Vuen> rawrness: amarok will work in gnome
[05:16] <rawrness> then amaroak
[05:16] <Vuen> rawrness: it will be a bit slower because it will use kde libs, but it will work great
[05:16] <rawrness> amorak owns
[05:16] <rawrness> *dances about like a idot*
[05:17] <Vuen> Smotang: any media player in ubuntu will play mp3s. what you need is the codecs.
[05:17] <Smotang> Ah i see!
[05:17] <Vuen> !codecs > Smotang
[05:17] <Zaire> you don't require codecs for xmms to play them
[05:17] <Dr_willis> The Kubuntu FAQ has some info on what packages to isntall for mp3 playback
[05:17] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: ahh how nice! it works
[05:17] <cpk2> Smotang: since you are using kubuntu you should be able to get media working in just one step!
[05:17] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: and this is 100% encrypted as ssh right?
[05:17] <driz> intelikey: i did cd Desktop/firefox then "./configure"--> did not work then tried  "make" did not work
[05:18] <Dr_willis> driz,  have you installed  the 'build-essential' package yet?
[05:18] <Smotang> Vuen: im using gaim to talk at the moment? Did you send me the codecs then? I just heard the "noise".
[05:18] <Vuen> i didn't send you any codecs
[05:18] <driz> Dr_willis: i just did
[05:18] <Vuen> i just told the bot to message you about codecs
[05:18] <Vuen> !codecs
[05:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:18] <driz> Dr_willis: still nothing
[05:18] <Smotang> ah thank
[05:19] <Smotang> thanks
[05:19] <Dr_willis> i dident think the codec pages mention the mp3 stuff
[05:19] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[05:19] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: my users and groups management doesn't work :-(
[05:19] <Dr_willis> driz,  you need to give us a LITTLE more info then 'nothing'
[05:19] <Ashex> !samba
[05:19] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:19] <Zaire> it does jjust takes some readin lol
[05:19] <Vuen> !mp3
[05:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:19] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: there was a user created called nx, should I delete this?
[05:19] <Vuen> Smotang: visit the restricted formats link. it will explain how to install it.
[05:19] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: NO
[05:19] <Vuen> oops caps lock
[05:19] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: okay okay... lol calm down
[05:19] <Vuen> :/
[05:19] <Vuen> sorry, caps
[05:20] <Vuen> anyway, no. the nx user runs the nxserver
[05:20] <intelikey> driz what has that got to do with "<driz> intelikey:   tar: This does not look like a tar archive"   i guess you got past that error.................
[05:20] <Vuen> it's a separate user from your normal user so that it doesn't have your priveledges, but it also doesn't have root
[05:20] <driz> driz@enErgy:~/Desktop/firefox$ sudo make
[05:20] <driz> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:21] <Smotang> How do i Check what version of Ubuntu I am running?
[05:21] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: so is there a way to enable/disable nx? or is it really not a security threat?
[05:21] <driz> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[05:21] <Vuen> Smotang: what is it called? breezy = 5.04, dapper = 6.06, edgy = 6.10
[05:21] <intelikey> don't sudo make..... run make as user.   but i'm still wondering about the archive error.....
[05:21] <Vuen> Smotang: the version numbers don't really mean anything, they're just the release dates. 6.06 = june 2006
[05:21] <Smotang> Oh!
[05:22] <Smotang> thanks!
[05:22] <Vuen> Smotang: you're probably running dapper drake, which is 6.06
[05:22] <intelikey> Smotang lsb_release -a
[05:22] <Vuen> intelikey: ah that works :)
[05:23] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: is there a way to disable the server?
[05:23] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: like enable-disable nxserver?
[05:23] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: um, you can stop it, just sudo /etc/init.d/nxserver stop
[05:23] <Vuen> to disable it permanently, i don't know
[05:23] <driz> intelikey: tar -xvsf '/home/driz/Desktop/firefox-2.0rc3.tar.gz'    this just ran and i guess worked
[05:23] <Vuen> why would you want to disable it, anyway?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> i always forget the command to remove a service.
[05:23] <Vuen> there's no reason not to just leave it running permanently
[05:23] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: if i don't want people accessing it.
[05:24] <intelikey> Vuen man update-rc.d
[05:24] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: but if its encrypted yeah i guess thats true... I just don't want people logging in and hording resources.
[05:24] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: people won't be able to access it if you put a password on it. anyway it all runs through ssh
[05:24] <Dr_willis> ' update-rc.d '  now theres an oddly named command. :)   descriptive i guess..
[05:25] <Vuen> best to just put a strong password on it (>=8 chars, at least one uppercase character, at least one number, at least one symbol)
[05:25] <Vuen> and leave it running permanently
[05:25] <thompa> anyone running edgy and kdm having a problem loading kde?
[05:25] <Vuen> you'll never know when you'll be away from your computer and wanting to log in
[05:25] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: do that to the nx account?
[05:25] <intelikey> Dr_willis *buntu has  update-<every #^^%$# thing>
[05:25] <Vuen> no
[05:25] <thompa> gdm gets me to kubuntu fine btw
[05:25] <Vuen> don't change the nx account
[05:25] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: okay. My passwrods are already strong.
[05:26] <Vuen> then you're all set
[05:26] <Smotang> Ok the media Player that i have is called totem? is that what you were asking about?
[05:26] <Zaire> hey cpk2 is it alright if I pm you?
[05:26] <intelikey> Dr_willis and they're all scripts... heh
[05:27] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  we need more scripts captian!
[05:27] <Vuen> Smotang: if you're using totem, then you're on gnome... what brings you to #kubuntu?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> What no 'service' command? !
[05:27] <intelikey> it the rc.d
[05:27] <thompa> kubuntu edgy is the best ive ever run so fat
[05:28] <Smotang> Oh my bad! im on the wrong IRC channel. Sorry I am very new.
[05:28] <driz> intelikey: i dont think the command work it just listed the files, to extract them i think
[05:29] <intelikey> driz no the -x means extract.
[05:29] <Zaire> I almost have phpbb2 installed Im just having trouble pointing the install to a db
[05:29] <intelikey> driz where ever you ran in look for the new dir named simular to the tarball name.
[05:30] <Zaire> whats a standard prefix for a phpbb2_ table?
[05:31] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: this is pretty neet
[05:31] <driz> intelikey: the folder is called firefox and i'm in the directory right now
[05:32] <intelikey> driz look for files with all caps names.   README INSTALL  and such like.   read them.
[05:32] <driz> ok
[05:33] <intelikey> ls | grep -e "[A-Z] "
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Well i was going to suggest trying out the Firefox Beta on the Klik site.. but i cant get their stuff working now... silly site.
[05:33] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: yep. tried it on a remote computer yet?
[05:33] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: walk over to a friend's house and try it out. set it fullscreen for great effect.
[05:33] <intelikey> silly site.  what'a sight.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> http://klik.atekon.de/
[05:34] <conejo_dido> hi to everyone
[05:34] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: it seems like i runs almost as good as M$ RDP
[05:34] <conejo_dido> I want to update kaffeine but anyone knows where I could find a binary package_
[05:35] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: it*
[05:35] <conejo_dido> ?
[05:35] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: sorry for using a bad word lol
[05:35] <intelikey> ssh "Protocol 2"  isn't that slightly slower than "Protocol 1"  ?
[05:35] <Vuen> mmm, i don't know about rdp
[05:36] <driz> intelikey: provides no help neither does th site
[05:37] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: rdp is something M$ did nicely actually, i have to give it to them.
[05:37] <intelikey> Vuen what do you mean "set it fullscreen"  ?
[05:37] <Vuen> intelikey: you can make the nx client run fullscreen
[05:37] <Vuen> so it looks like you're sitting right at the desktop
[05:38] <Vuen> just remember that the "magic pixel" is in the top right corner of the screen
[05:38] <intelikey> Vuen you mean as in,  'in a gui' ?
[05:38] <Vuen> ?
[05:38] <intelikey> Vuen can't you use that from console ?
[05:38] <Zaire> cana anyone tell me what this means
[05:38] <Zaire> An error has occurred during installation
[05:38] <Zaire> The PHP configuration on your server doesn't support the database type that you chose
[05:39] <Vuen> use what from console? nx?
[05:39] <intelikey> yeah
[05:39] <Vuen> i don't think you understand what nx is.
[05:39] <driz> later man going to oh well
[05:39] <intelikey> Vuen i must not.
[05:39] <Vuen> nx is a remote desktop protocol
[05:39] <Vuen> it's for connecting to your desktop remotely
[05:39] <intelikey> yeah so can't you run it in a console ?
[05:39] <Vuen> as in, graphical
[05:39] <Vuen> you can run the program from a console, sure
[05:39] <Vuen> but it runs in x...
[05:40] <intelikey> so it requires X ?
[05:40] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: it is a little faster than X forwarding on ssh if you need a program that only runs in gui
[05:40] <intelikey> i see.
[05:43] <Vuen> hmm
[05:43] <Vuen> intelikey: perhaps some screenshots would help explain: http://www.nomachine.com/screenshot/windows-client.php
[05:43] <intelikey> so basicly the only real use for that would be either  1. eye candy.   or 2. to remotely run an Xapp on a remote boxen.
[05:43] <Vuen> eye candy?
[05:44] <Vuen> dude.
[05:44] <Vuen> i don't even know what to say.
[05:44] <Vuen> you can't do everything inside a freaking console
[05:44] <Vuen> can you use gimp in a console? can you browse graphically in a console?
[05:44] <intelikey> what can i don't do ?
[05:44] <intelikey> can you browse graphically in a console?   do it all the time
[05:44] <Vuen> can you do serious web development in a console?
[05:44] <Vuen> can you test and debug graphical software in a console?
[05:45] <Vuen> there's more to using a computer than a freaking command line, they invented a mouse for a reason!
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Blasphmy!
[05:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:46] <Vuen> i mean, seriously
[05:46] <Vuen> use word. in a console. do it.
[05:46] <intelikey> Dr_willis agreed.     should we stone him now or wait till we have witnesses ?
[05:46] <Vuen> let's see it.
[05:46] <Vuen> i want you to write an academic paper and print it out in a console.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> I use TeX in the console.. and had better looking papers then the guys using word.
[05:46] <Vuen> Dr_willis: i use tex in a console too, i use vi
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Vuen,  TeX, nroff, easially do that. :)
[05:46] <Vuen> but you need a graphical environment to see the output!
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Ive helped many professors use tex for their  books.
[05:47] <intelikey> heh 'word'  hehhe
[05:47] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  :) we had a 'mac lab' :)
[05:47] <Vuen> *sigh* word was just an example of a typesetting program everyone knows about
[05:47] <Vuen> you can't seriously expect to write a document in a console without at some point looking at the output
[05:47] <Dr_willis> I rember upgrading from using nroff, to TeX and LaTeX
[05:47] <Vuen> you need to LOOK at the document at SOME POINT
[05:48] <Vuen> unless you want to keep printing it every time you want to see it
[05:48] <intelikey> Vuen looking at the output is not a problem tho...
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Vuen,  we had  preview programs that could render the TeX output on the serial terminals.. some how. :P
[05:48] <Dr_willis> it was a textronics  thang I guess.,
[05:48] <Dr_willis> NOW you make me feel old.
[05:48] <intelikey> Dr_willis you are old.   you old coot
[05:48] <Vuen> i give up. i feel like i'm arguing with my grandfather, and he's explaining to me in painful detail why indoor plumbing is unnecessary and wasteful
[05:49] <intelikey> :)
[05:49] <Vuen> EMBRACE TECHNOLOGY
[05:49] <Vuen> GAH
[05:49] <intelikey> Vuen for what ?
[05:49] <intelikey> gui's are over rated.
[05:50] <Vuen> yep. overrated. just like indoor plumbing.
[05:50] <Vuen> i could just as easily take a bucket outside and fill 'er up at the ol' well
[05:50] <intelikey> apples and bananas
[05:50] <Dr_willis> ITs not Rocket Surgery!
[05:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:50] <Jucato> or just wait for the rain to come down :)
[05:50] <intelikey> prezactly
[05:50] <Jucato> Hobbsee!! :)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Printing the docs was exactly what we did ages ago to see what the thing looked like.
[05:51] <Vuen> yes, but that's not necessary anymore!
[05:51] <Vuen> in a graphical environment you can see the output INSTANTLY!
[05:51] <Dr_willis> of coruse TeX is such a kicking system.. it was rarely needed then.
[05:51] <intelikey> Dr_willis yeah
[05:51] <Vuen> INSTANTLY! this is why we have high resolution monitors! high color depth!
[05:52] <Dr_willis> I even helped teach a class on TeX
[05:52] <intelikey> Vuen yep.   eye candy.
[05:52] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[05:52] <Vuen> *sigh*
[05:52] <intelikey> figured.
[05:52] <rawrness> thanks btw for your help intelikey and dr
[05:52] <rawrness> yesterday
[05:52] <Vuen> well anyway, i have a meeting, a midterm, and an assignment due tomorrow
[05:52] <Vuen> and it's midnight
[05:52] <Vuen> i better get some work done :(
[05:52] <rawrness> i ended up just reinstalling off the alternet cd though
[05:52] <intelikey> rawrness any time.
[05:53] <Vuen> aurevoir
[05:53] <rawrness> netherless thanks
[05:53] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: now lets face reality and accept the gui eh? honestly... you're not proving much to anyone by being a "Rebel" of the system.
[05:53] <rawrness> But i do wonder why did the live cd not work while the alternet did ......
[05:53] <t3hwiz0rd> the gui came to exist from the best hackers in the world, why not embrace their work?
[05:53] <intelikey> rawrness sorry i couldn't help more,  but i waiting for indoor plumming you know....
[05:53] <rawrness> Fun.
[05:54] <intelikey> :)
[05:54] <t3hwiz0rd> rawrness: some of the isos available at kubuntu.org seem to be... well... no good... lol
[05:54] <rawrness> funny story though i ended up deleting the linux partion some how
[05:54] <rawrness> and completly screwed everything up
[05:54] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd you too ?
[05:54] <Frederick> folks how do I turn of the auto adjust of the clock for summer time?
[05:54] <rawrness> funnyer the live cd was not a iso
[05:55] <rawrness> it came right from canoical
[05:55] <rawrness> and its nice and bluish
[05:55] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: i use a mixture of the two, but im not a zealot. I've embraced the changes that came to computing.
[05:55] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd  being a rebel ?       lol
[05:56] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: are you in CLI right now?
[05:56] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: are you running entirely headless?
[05:56] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd yeah
[05:56] <intelikey> headless no.
[05:56] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: do you ever touch a gui app?
[05:56] <intelikey> ever yeah
[05:56] <intelikey> so what's the point ?
[05:57] <t3hwiz0rd> i never got the zealotist ideology is all... it just seems so stupid
[05:57] <t3hwiz0rd> the "fuck the gui" mentality... but then again i guess if there weren't people to hate stupid things the rest of us wouldn't have people to snicker and make rude comments about lol
[05:57] <intelikey> so tell the zealott   !    and leave me alone
[05:57] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: sometimes you give the vibe that you may be zealot though.
[05:58] <osiris> !language t3hwiz0rd
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language t3hwiz0rd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <intelikey> i don't give "vibe"'s   dude.
[05:58] <osiris> grr.  watch the language t3hwiz0rd
[05:58] <intelikey> you must have someone else in mind
[05:58] <Jucato> intelikey is no zealot. he's a fanatic :P
[05:59] <rawrness> whats xgl and compiz?
[05:59] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: you do seem zealotish sometimes, it doesn't bother me because I mix cli and gui into a nice setup... But some people I could see getting mad at you :-P
[05:59] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: just expressing an opinion, not personal dislike.
[05:59] <intelikey> Jucato :)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> rawrness,  a new way to get eye candy for the desktop
[05:59] <rawrness> I see
[05:59] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: you've been helpful and for that I do appreciate you being around.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> rawrness,  give it a few months and you will be seeing it. :P
[05:59] <rawrness> is it good?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> rawrness,  i consider it annoying eye candy..
[06:00] <rawrness> odywells
[06:00] <whyso> xgl and compics are a 3d windows manager
[06:00] <rawrness> I see
[06:00] <t3hwiz0rd> rawrness: its pretty much a beta gui that will eat your linux install sooner or later.
[06:00] <rawrness> good th ing it didn't work
[06:00] <Dr_willis> use it to impress your fiends.. then disable to do real work. :)
[06:00] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd one thing i am not. 'political'  i could hardly care less who thinks what of me....
[06:00] <rawrness> XD
[06:00] <Dr_willis> and go back to the console
[06:01] <whyso> too bad xgl compics isnt on live CD, would be good one for that
[06:01] <ShillelaghLaw> grub ate my WinXP install last week  x.X
[06:01] <t3hwiz0rd> ShillelaghLaw: it didn't eat it... it simply lost the path to it.
[06:01] <dude_> Dr._Willis: is it safe to install beryl?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,  Hmm.. normally its a XP eats my grub thing...
[06:01] <ShillelaghLaw> lol...  more or less
[06:01] <Dr_willis> dude_,  i wouldent touch it.
[06:01] <t3hwiz0rd> rebuilding grub is easy.
[06:01] <dude_> Dr._Willis: why?
[06:02] <ShillelaghLaw> I wouldn't really care, but I miss Battlefield Vietnam  =P
[06:02] <whyso> damn, just installed kubuntu, but when i try to mount my 2nd hard drive it jsut say "unknown error has occured"
[06:02] <Dr_willis> find a live cd that has the stuff onit.. to play with..  then enjoy it.. then reboot to get work done. :)
[06:02] <t3hwiz0rd> Dr_willis: i should slap you for using the dreaded R-word infront of me :-P
[06:03] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd  did you by chance read what brought on all the  cli/gui dialog ?
[06:03] <ShillelaghLaw> is there a good article on how to rebuild grub anywhere?
[06:03] <Frederick> folks how do I turn off the auto adjust of the clock for summer time?
[06:03] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: breifly I had an angry GF breathing down my neck about how i pay more attention to the computer than her.
[06:03] <whyso> i have no clue how to get it to work :( just partitioned it with qtpart and STILL wont mount it
[06:03] <ShillelaghLaw> because I tried changing the menus.list file, and it didn't really help
[06:04] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd  just wondering.
[06:04] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: i had a few words for Vuen_away too but hes away lol
[06:04] <ShillelaghLaw> err, menu.list...  and there was some other file someone told me to change stuff in
[06:04] <ShillelaghLaw> that one didn't help either
[06:04] <t3hwiz0rd> I sat back down right as he logged.
[06:05] <whyso> LOL wizord i get that all the time
[06:05] <intelikey> ShillelaghLaw  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:05] <whyso> anyone have a clue how i can get my 2nd HD to mount?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> whyso,  learn how to mount them.. edit the fstab.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> whyso,  what kind of partitons are on the hd?
[06:05] <intelikey> whyso add entries to /etc/fstab
[06:06] <whyso> ext3
[06:06] <whyso> thanks
[06:07] <Dr_willis> mounting of drives is a Linux 101 Week 1 sort of thing. :)
[06:07] <intelikey> whyso  mount && sudo fdisk -l        will both yeld information appropose
[06:07] <Dr_willis> heh heh.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> The College of Whats-Matta-Tux
[06:08] <intelikey> Dr_willis not anymore.
[06:08] <Frederick> JDStone: /join ##nonlogic
[06:08] <ShillelaghLaw> I know- I worked with the menu.lst file.  I didn't have any luck with it.  could it be something else?  it says something about not recognizing the partition type.
[06:08] <whyso> hehe thanks (yes i am new)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,  its possible its confused abouyt what drives are where.
[06:09] <intelikey> Dr_willis anymore you learn how to use gaim and amsn and limewire    but know nothing about the system.   it seems so M$ like.
[06:09] <ShillelaghLaw> that's true- I never thought about that.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  you just lost 100 geek points!
[06:09] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:09] <ShillelaghLaw> I tried reinstalling Kubuntu to see if it would reinstall/configure grub for me, but it didn't.  I'll go look up some more about configuring grub.
[06:09] <ShillelaghLaw> thank you
[06:09] <intelikey> lol
[06:09] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,  now thats odd... how is your system laid out?
[06:09] <flaccid_> ShillelaghLaw: there is a command to reconfigure grub, that what you looking for?
[06:10] <ShillelaghLaw> yes, actually
[06:10] <ShillelaghLaw> that would really help
[06:10] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,   a reinstall SHOULD of fixed it.. whats a command going to do that the installer dident. :)
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Logical thinking here. :)
[06:10] <digivore> is 'sudo' just an ubuntu thing?
[06:10] <ShillelaghLaw> true  x.X
[06:10] <whyso> what do i do after mount && sudo fdisk -l
[06:10] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,  you may want to check out the   /boot/grub/device.map
[06:10] <intelikey> digivore no
[06:11] <ShillelaghLaw> ok, thanks
[06:11] <ShillelaghLaw> I'll check that now
[06:11] <intelikey> digivore but ubuntu over uses it.
[06:11] <flaccid_> ShillelaghLaw: sudo update-grub
[06:11] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,  its possible the grub menu.lst is thinking the drives are in a different spot then what they are shown there.
[06:11] <Zaire> k anyone know where the php config file would be?
[06:11] <flaccid_> should never have to reinstall the os..
[06:11] <Dr_willis> whyso,   read the man pages for mount, is a start. fdisk -l shows what drives are on what  locations
[06:11] <intelikey> Zaire did you look in /etc
[06:11] <whyso> ok, thanks
[06:12] <Zaire> yea I can't see it
[06:12] <digivore> intelikey, i am running kubuntu, but just installed e17,  however seems that e17 doesn't automatically run ' sudo' when opening some items on my start menu
[06:12] <Dr_willis> whyso, check the fstab for examples
[06:12] <Hawkwind> digivore: It's not supposed to
[06:12] <Zaire> Im trying to get it to work with mysql-server so as to install phpbb2
[06:13] <flaccid_> Zaire: whats the problem. php in configured with php.ini
[06:13] <dhq> how do i run javavm
[06:13] <flaccid_> dhq: the java command
[06:13] <mattik> Hello. How do I change to copy mode in text mode?
[06:13] <Zaire> ?
[06:13] <intelikey> digivore e17 is not a ubuntu package is it ?    it won't be configured for the special use of the root jr. account  aka sudo    you will need to edit the menu manually i guess.
[06:13] <dhq> flaccid_: howz that
[06:14] <flaccid_> dhq: you run the command java
[06:14] <flaccid_> to run a java application?
[06:14] <digivore> Hawkwind, when i use KDE and i try to open my wireless assistant, it worked like normal, but when i do it in e17 it tells me i "dont' have permissions - did you use sudo first"
[06:14] <Zaire> Im trying to install a phpbb2 forum but its not recognizing the mysql database
[06:14] <BonBonTheJon> Zaire: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[06:14] <Hawkwind> digivore: That's KDE.  E17 is *not* a desktop environment like KDE.  In fact, it's far from it
[06:14] <digivore> ok, so i will have to type in sudo before the items on the menu editor
[06:15] <flaccid_> Zaire: what is the error?
[06:15] <mattik> Hello. How do I change to copy mode in text mode? I want to paste my Xorg.log to pastebin. I cannot start X in DApper.
[06:15] <dhq> flaccid_:dhq@dhq-laptop:~$ java Usage: gij [OPTION]  ... CLASS [ARGS]  ...          to invoke CLASS.main, or       gij -jar [OPTION]  ... JARFILE [ARGS]  ...          to execute a jar fileTry `gij --help' for more information.
[06:15] <ShillelaghLaw> thanks guys- I'm going to go and give it another try
[06:15] <Hawkwind> digivore: How did you install E17 btw ?
[06:15] <flaccid_> dhq: that is correct
[06:15] <Zaire> An error has occurred during installation
[06:15] <Zaire> The PHP configuration on your server doesn't support the database type that you chose
[06:16] <flaccid_> Zaire: what database type did you select?
[06:16] <Zaire> I chose mysql-4/5
[06:16] <dhq> flaccid_: so how do i run the virtual machine
[06:16] <flaccid_> Zaire: that is the server version not database type.
[06:16] <crazykoga> hi people
[06:16] <flaccid_> dhq: i have already told you. the java command. what are you trying to run?
[06:16] <crazykoga> hows it going!!
[06:16] <digivore> Hawkwind, from a cvs....  took me 2 weeks to figure it out!  just got it going.
[06:17] <crazykoga> can someone tell me what is this?
[06:17] <Zaire> according to the install page its the DB type
[06:17] <crazykoga> well
[06:17] <crazykoga> T_T
[06:17] <crazykoga> nigth everyone
[06:17] <flaccid_> Zaire: what mysql servers are supported by the application?
[06:17] <BonBonTheJon> crazykoga: what is your question
[06:18] <dhq> flaccid_: well i downloaded jalbum.bin which requires thejava vm to be running
[06:18] <crazykoga> dont worry im going to bed thanks lol
[06:18] <crazykoga> night
[06:18] <Zaire> mysql 4 to mysql 5
[06:18] <whyso> whyso
[06:18] <Zaire> I have mysql-server 5.0.21
[06:18] <whyso> sry typo
[06:18] <Hawkwind> digivore: LOL.  You do know there are scripts out there that will do it all for you ?
[06:18] <flaccid_> Zaire: this is phpbb?
[06:18] <Zaire> phpbb2 yep
[06:18] <Hawkwind> digivore: Plus I have both Dapper and Edgy deb repos for *Ubuntu of E17
[06:18] <flaccid_> dhq: what type of file is jalbum.bin meant to be?
[06:19] <flaccid_> Zaire: how did you install phpbb?
[06:19] <Zaire> I haven't thats what Im trying to do
[06:19] <dhq> flaccid_: http://jalbum.net/
[06:19] <larson9999> is it just my or is ff r2 a lot faster?
[06:20] <Hawkwind> larson9999: It's faster, but swiftfox is even faster than firefox :)
[06:20] <flaccid_> Zaire: ask in #phpbb or read phpbb's documentation.
[06:20] <BonBonTheJon> Hawkwind: how do you install swiftfox
[06:20] <digivore> Hawkwind,  Yah i used a script, but first i tried to get it through synaptic and that didn't work at all!  but found a good script
[06:20] <larson9999> Hawkwind: swiftfox?  i can't keep up with all the browsers
[06:20] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: http://getswiftfox.com
[06:21] <larson9999> oh, it's a version of ff
[06:21] <flaccid_> Zaire: are you installing the package ie. sudo apt-get install phpbb2 ?
[06:21] <Zaire> I have asked and they can't seem to help me other then sayin change this line in the ini and the line doesn exist cause it points to a dll this is a linux server
[06:21] <Hawkwind> larson9999: It's based on firefox code, but it's optimized.  It uses all your firefox settings.  But it's tons quicker, takes up less memory, and doesn't leak as bad
[06:21] <digivore> Hawkwind, repos for *ubuntu of e17?   what do you mean
[06:21] <Hawkwind> larson9999: No it's not a *version of ff* at all
[06:21] <Zaire> no the apt method failed worse
[06:21] <dhq> flaccid_: any idea
[06:21] <Hawkwind> digivore: I have built deb packages for *Ubuntu of E17 for both Dapper and Edgy
[06:21] <flaccid_> dhq: i'm looking
[06:21] <BonBonTheJon> Hawkwind: how do i find which processor build to use
[06:22] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: What type of computer do you have
[06:22] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: You hopefully know the specs of your system
[06:22] <digivore> Hawkwind,  really?  meaning this could have been alot easier?  how do you install deb packages anyways?
[06:22] <larson9999> Hawkwind: in my imprecise use of english i call things based of other projects code, versions.  but i get the point.
[06:22] <flaccid_> Zaire: perhaps you have not installed the package php5-mysql
[06:22] <BonBonTheJon> Hawkwind: laptop with intel celeron, but i dont know which type
[06:22] <Zaire> -_- now someone tells me
[06:22] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: Intel Celeron what ?
[06:22] <flaccid_> Zaire: ?
[06:22] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: cat /proc/cpuinfo might shed some light
[06:23] <Hawkwind> digivore: Now that you have it installed it from CVS no need to worry about the deb packages.  You're good to go
[06:23] <Zaire> no I didn't have that
[06:23] <digivore> can you upgrade from edgy do dapper?  i have dapper but i'm just curious why someone would continue to work with an older version...
[06:23] <flaccid_> dhq: did you read the instructions on http://jalbum.net/download3.jsp ?
[06:24] <flaccid_> Zaire: php doesn't have mysql support by default in versions 5 and above
[06:24] <Dr_willis> digivore,  dapper is the long term support/stable line.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> digivore,  why upgrade if everything works. :P
[06:24] <Hawkwind> digivore: Edgy is the next release of Ubuntu.  You are probably using Dapper now.  Edgy will be released on the 26th of this month
[06:24] <flaccid_> dhq: the .bin is a binary. you run that with .sh as per the instructions to install. you should always read the documentation :)
[06:24] <larson9999> Hawkwind: if it's much faster, i'll get dizzy
[06:24] <intelikey> lsb_release -a
[06:25] <digivore> ohhh   i see   i thought edgy was an older version
[06:25] <intelikey> digivore  lsb_release -a
[06:25] <dhq> flaccid_: i did that still i get no vm found
[06:25] <dude_> moma: you there?
[06:25] <larson9999> the new release should be soon, right?
[06:25] <flaccid_> dhq: what says no vm found?
[06:25] <intelikey> larson9999 the 26th
[06:25] <dhq> yes
[06:26] <flaccid_> dhq: what tells you that??
[06:26] <digivore> Hawkwind,  are you pretty familiar with e17 ?
[06:26] <Hawkwind> digivore: Slightly.  It's all I run and have run it for over a year now.
[06:26] <larson9999> i doubt it, hawkwind never talks about e17
[06:26] <larson9999> :)
[06:26] <dhq> flaccid_:dhq@dhq-laptop:~$   sh ./JAlbuminstall.bin Preparing to install... Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive..Configuring the installer for this system's environment...No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATHenvironment variable.  You must install a VM prior torunning this program.
[06:26] <Hawkwind> digivore: I do a lot of testing for the devs
[06:27] <intelikey> larson9999 lol
[06:27] <intelikey> hmmm now Hawkwind is a zealott
[06:27] <intelikey> :)
[06:27] <flaccid_> dhq: the java binary path needs to be added to an enviro variable
[06:27] <foo> Do you guys think XGL will be gone in a year or two?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Far from it
[06:27] <Hawkwind> foo: It's already been replaced.  Read the internet
[06:28] <Genix|linux> how do i open up a .exe using wine?
[06:28] <intelikey> Hawkwind it was a referance to eariler chatter
[06:28] <Genix|linux> i already installed it
[06:28] <digivore> Hawkwind, nice, i'll probably have a few questions about it shortly...
[06:28] <dhq> flaccid_: how do i do that
[06:28] <Genix|linux> ah intelikey you are still here
[06:28] <Hawkwind> digivore: #E is the place to ask them since you're there :P
[06:28] <foo> Hawkwind: HAHA. You win.
[06:28] <flaccid_> dhq: which environment varable does the documentation say?
[06:28] <Genix|linux> intelikey: i got wine installed but i don't know how to open up an .exe in it
[06:29] <dhq> flaccid_: that i dunno it just says javavm
[06:29] <intelikey> Genix|linux  wine /path/to/file.exe
[06:29] <Genix|linux> sweet thanks
[06:29] <flaccid_> dhq: we will have to guess
[06:29] <dhq> flaccid_: ok
[06:30] <dhq> flaccid_: so how i start
[06:30] <Dr_willis> KernelTrap is reporting that the security research firm Rapid7 has published a working root exploit for a buffer overflow in NVIDIA's binary blob graphics driver for Linux.
[06:30] <flaccid_> dhq: oh it says PATH environment variable
[06:31] <Dr_willis> http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228
[06:31] <dhq> k
[06:31] <intelikey> Dr_willis cool....
[06:31] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  :P interesting at least
[06:31] <Dr_willis> wonder how it does it!
[06:33] <Genix|linux> intelikey: i have to do that in that wine command in chroot i assume?
[06:33] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i can't really tell a difference in speed but i'll take your word on the leaking and stuff and use it instead for a while to see if i have issues.  do you know if the build on oct 15 was on rc3?
[06:33] <dude_> how do i install freenx?
[06:33] <flaccid_> dhq: what version of java is installed and what is the path to the jvm, eg /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06
[06:33] <flaccid_> !freenx
[06:34] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:34] <Hawkwind> larson9999: You gotta be kidding me ?  Start time is 1/4 of what firefox is.
[06:34] <intelikey> Genix|linux yeah or prepend the chroot command
[06:34] <dude_> how do i install frostwire, my mistake
[06:34] <flaccid_> !frostwire
[06:34] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:34] <t3hwiz0rd> ew
[06:34] <t3hwiz0rd> EW!
[06:34] <intelikey> Genix|linux it's easiest to do a chroot /address/    then use that shell imo
[06:34] <t3hwiz0rd> who uses limewire? or that entire network anymore?
[06:34] <Genix|linux> ok thanks i'll try that
[06:34] <t3hwiz0rd> can you even find a song that isn't all jacked up on it?
[06:34] <flaccid_> you mean gnutella, t3hwiz0rd
[06:35] <t3hwiz0rd> yup
[06:35] <flaccid_> i do
[06:35] <t3hwiz0rd> why? theres nothing even good on it anymore
[06:35] <dhq> flaccid_: i am done i just done and chose my location sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:35] <flaccid_> works for me
[06:35] <mattik> How do I copy text to pastebin in text mode?
[06:35] <t3hwiz0rd> maybe im just spoiled by konwing some of the best private torrent networks but meh.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> limewire is one of many gnutella clients..  I use it all the time.
[06:35] <flaccid_> dhq: i don't know what ur talking about
[06:35] <dhq> flaccid_: thankx for you help
[06:35] <t3hwiz0rd> I don't see the point of it. The entire network R-belong-to-iraa.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> actually  i use frostwire
[06:35] <larson9999> hawkwind i wasn't paying attention to the startup.  just did a little test.  4 count to start ff and 2 count to start swiftfox
[06:36] <flaccid_> dhq: read the documentation next time
[06:36] <Dr_willis> t3hwiz0rd,  whatever...
[06:36] <dhq> flaccid_: run the command yoou can choose where your vm is
[06:36] <Eddy> hi
[06:36] <flaccid_> dhq: yes, but problems exist with that if you have more than 1 jvm installed, this is why i asked you..
[06:36] <intelikey> Genix|linux man chroot if you need the specifics on that.    one could in fact script the process that would do the chroot and the wine commands then assoceate .exe files with the script....    but that's prolly tomarrows task.
[06:37] <dhq> flaccid_: oh ok
[06:37] <flaccid_> t3hwiz0rd: if you wanna get a popular song then its easy
[06:37] <larson9999> i'll have to try ff 2 on my son's machine maybe it + wine + the new flash will get rid of the little lag
[06:37] <dude_> flaccid: frostwire is already installed but i won't run
[06:37] <flaccid_> dude_: ah well
[06:38] <klerfayt> I installed linux-686 but /boot/grub/menu.lst is unchanged?
[06:38] <Zaire> damn thing still isnt working
[06:38] <Genix|linux> intelikey: i'm in the chroot shell but when i do wine Firefox.exe i get a Segmentation fault
[06:38] <intelikey> klerfayt update-gurb
[06:38] <intelikey> Genix|linux yuch....
[06:39] <klerfayt> intelikey: still nothing
[06:39] <dude_> flaccid: what seems to be the problem?
[06:39] <Genix|linux> yeah i have no idea what to do now lol
[06:39] <intelikey> Genix|linux use a copy of notepad.exe to test wine with  make sure it's not just wine failing
[06:40] <intelikey> klerfayt do a ls /boot  and see what kernels are there ?
[06:40] <klerfayt> intelikey: could the reason be that I also installed linux-image-686?
[06:40] <intelikey> the vmlinuz* ones.
[06:40] <flaccid_> dude_: huh, i don't have any problem
[06:40] <Genix|linux> i think it is wine failing
[06:41] <Genix|linux> i just tried to do a winecfg
[06:41] <dude_> flaccid: :) frostwire, it won't run, sorry
[06:41] <klerfayt> intelikey: they are here (two 686 vmlinuz files)
[06:41] <Genix|linux> and it gives me the same error
[06:41] <intelikey> klerfayt    compare against the listings in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:41] <intelikey> Genix|linux yep.
[06:41] <Genix|linux> yeah i'm going to try a diff method to install wine
[06:41] <flaccid_> dude_: there are 100000 possible reasons why it won't run. unless you give me some specific information, i don't know which one it could be.
[06:42] <intelikey> back to the wiki's and see if you skipped anything.
[06:42] <intelikey> Genix|linux ^
[06:42] <klerfayt> intelikey: menu.lst only has vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 + recovery mode
[06:42] <Genix|linux> hmm good idea
[06:42] <dude_> flaccid: when i click the application, nothing happens
[06:42] <Genix|linux> intelikey: it's hard because i am using edgy and most guides are for dapper
[06:43] <flaccid_> dude_: do you have java installed?
[06:43] <dude_> yes
[06:43] <intelikey> klerfayt so copy the full listing for   vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386     and change the 386 to  686 in both the initrd and the vmlinuz
[06:43] <flaccid_> dude_: run it from command line and see what error out you get
[06:44] <dude_> flaccid: what is the command
[06:44] <flaccid_> dude_: frostwire
[06:44] <intelikey> Genix|linux hmmmm yeah.... ok the development channel is #ubuntu+1   maybe someone in there can walk you through it .....   idk.
[06:44] <klerfayt> intelikey: so do it manually? why sudo update-grub doesn't work?
[06:45] <intelikey> klerfayt i don't know why.  but yes you can fix it manually
[06:45] <intelikey> klerfayt must edit as root.   sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:46] <klerfayt> intelikey: I know; I prefer kdesu kwrite
[06:46] <intelikey> flaccid you good with wine on 64bit edgy ?
[06:47] <flaccid> intelikey: no sorry
[06:47] <intelikey> klerfayt i started to say nano  :)
[06:48] <ny0n> i need help
[06:48] <ny0n> anyone around?
[06:48] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: what do you need
[06:48] <ny0n> problem: when i boot into kubuntu, kubuntu automatically connects to someone elses wireless network instead of mine
[06:48] <ny0n> how do i connect to my own network
[06:49] <flaccid> ny0n: system settings > network from kmenu
[06:49] <intelikey> well i'm off in 10 minutes.     so i need to start cleanup around here.   later linux converts.  :)
[06:49] <flaccid> !networkmanager
[06:49] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[06:49] <flaccid> ^^ networkmanager good too
[06:49] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: I prefer to install knetworkmanager
[06:50] <Genix|linux> intelikey: thanks for all the help
[06:51] <Zaire> ok how do I setup vnc for local access on kubuntu
[06:51] <ny0n> is there a command i can type to fix this problem
[06:51] <flaccid> Zaire: display :0 ?
[06:51] <rich0> can anyone give advice for STREAMTUNER?
[06:51] <Celeste> hi
[06:51] <Zaire> ?
[06:51] <flaccid> ny0n: yes there is. but its a lot longer than following instructions for the gui
[06:51] <Celeste> is there any native english speaker who would like to control some english lines for me, PLEASE?
[06:52] <ny0n> flaccid, what commands plz
[06:52] <Zaire> I want to try something in a gui on my linux server and I only have 1 set of periphs to use
[06:52] <flaccid> ny0n: i would need to know more about what you have and what you need
[06:52] <flaccid> !vnc > Zaire
[06:52] <flaccid> !x11vnc > Zaire
[06:53] <ny0n> well, when i boot into kubuntu, it automatiaclly connects to someone elses wireless network. i want to connect to my own network and not use someone elses internet
[06:53] <flaccid> ny0n: like i said.. i don't know what wireless card you have and what type of wireless network you need to connect to. why don't you just use the gui?
[06:53] <rich0> what is the etiquette here?  i've never used irc before,
[06:54] <ny0n> i tried gui
[06:54] <BonBonTheJon> rich0: just ask a question
[06:54] <ny0n> what program do you want me to get
[06:54] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: knetworkmanager
[06:54] <flaccid> !networkmanager > ny0n
[06:54] <rich0> thx, bonbon.
[06:54] <rich0> can anyone help me with streamtuner problems, please?
[06:55] <BonBonTheJon> rich0: what is the problem
[06:55] <rich0> shoutcast streams won't load.
[06:55] <rich0> once in a while they load and play fine, but...
[06:56] <rich0> then they stop loading.
[06:56] <dude> flaccid: tnx
[06:56] <deliverator> hello, i need help interfacing with an ipod
[06:56] <flaccid> np dude
[06:57] <BonBonTheJon> deliverator: amarok can sync with ipod
[06:58] <Zaire> thats not very helpful it just gave me a thing to edit the vnc due to an error and I can't connect to it via real vnc either
[06:58] <flaccid> Zaire: what exactly is your problem, i don't understand what you want to do
[06:59] <Zaire> I want to connect this PC Im on to my server using vnc
[06:59] <Zaire> the server is local
[06:59] <flaccid> so is your vnc server set up on the server?
[06:59] <dude> !wine
[06:59] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:59] <dude> !beryl-xgl
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl-xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <BonBonTheJon> rich0: try xmms, it is supposed to be able to play shoutcast
[06:59] <ny0n> knetworkmanager didn't work
[07:00] <Zaire> I got it install and edited the conf like that page said yes
[07:00] <dude> !beryl_xgl
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl_xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <flaccid> Zaire: did you install a vnc client on the client machine?
[07:00] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: what didnt work
[07:00] <ny0n> knetworkmanager
[07:00] <flaccid> !what
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <flaccid> !why
[07:00] <Zaire> Im running XP on this machine and I have real vnc viewer install
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <flaccid> Zaire: ok so whats the problem?
[07:01] <Zaire> it wont connect to the server vnc
[07:01] <ny0n> i need help
[07:01] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: does knetworkmanager start up in the taskbar
[07:01] <flaccid> Zaire: which vnc server are you using?
[07:01] <dude> !vnc
[07:01] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[07:02] <Zaire> I used sudo apt-get install vnc-common tightvncserver
[07:02] <flaccid> Zaire: is it running on the server? sudo fuser -v 5900/tcp
[07:02] <dude> flaccid: aside from vmware, what other programs that i can use to run xp under ubuntu
[07:02] <Brydenn33> hey i have a question for you guys
[07:03] <rawrness> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27066/ me pissing people off in #suse
[07:03] <Brydenn33> shit, hold on
[07:03] <flaccid> dude: qemu i belive and there are others, which i remember
[07:03] <flaccid> i can't remember them
[07:03] <rich0> bonbon:  i have streamtuner set up to use xmms.
[07:03] <rich0> is there something i should do in xmms?
[07:04] <BonBonTheJon> rich0: i've never used streamruner
[07:05] <rich0> ok.  thanks.
[07:05] <BonBonTheJon> rich0: maybe try amarok
[07:05] <BonBonTheJon> Brydenn33: what is your question
[07:05] <Brydenn33> hold on
[07:05] <Brydenn33> ok got it
[07:06] <Brydenn33> do any of you have ntfs-3g installed?
[07:06] <Brydenn33> cuz i'm running into an issue
[07:06] <mattik> Hello. I have intel integrated graphic card and ati's pci graphig card. My kubuntu don't recognize to X and I cannot paste xorg log in text mode
[07:06] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: did knetworkmanager load
[07:06] <Brydenn33> ntfs-3g allows write access to ntfs partitions
[07:06] <Brydenn33> and i have a dual boot in GRUB between windowsxp and linux (duh)
[07:07] <Brydenn33> however, my "links" on my linux desktop to folders on the windows partition are all messed up now
[07:08] <BonBonTheJon> mattik: do you have the integrated card disabled
[07:08] <Brydenn33> says only "root can mount /dev/hdb1/ on mnt/windows
[07:08] <Zaire> screw it nvm i'll swap my damn periphs then
[07:08] <flaccid> Brydenn33: only root can use the mount command by default
[07:08] <mattik> BonBonTheJon: My XP detect ati
[07:08] <flaccid> Zaire: you give up?
[07:09] <Brydenn33> flaccid:  i think i know what my problem is
[07:09] <Brydenn33> just not sure how to fix it
[07:09] <Brydenn33> ./dev/hdb1	/mnt/windows ntfs-3g  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0
[07:09] <BonBonTheJon> mattik: pastebin the output of 'lspci'
[07:09] <Brydenn33> is what i have in FSTAB
[07:09] <Brydenn33> i USED to have /dev/hdb1	/mnt/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0
[07:10] <Brydenn33> i think thats why my links arent working
[07:10] <mattik> BonBonTheJon: How can I do it in text mode?
[07:10] <flaccid> Brydenn33: there should be no . at the start of it
[07:10] <dude> flaccid: what is this error? 'wine: cannot find '/home/dude/xp/Program_Files/Qlock/qlock.exe'"
[07:10] <Brydenn33> flaccid: duh, i did that for IRC
[07:11] <BonBonTheJon> mattik: is there an entry for the ati card in lspci
[07:11] <flaccid> dude: i don't know
[07:11] <mattik> yes
[07:11] <mattik> BonBonTheJon: yes
[07:11] <flaccid> Brydenn33: duh, so what happens when you do sudo mount -a
[07:11] <Brydenn33> i'll try hehe
[07:11] <dude> flaccid: wine command
[07:11] <BonBonTheJon> mattik: have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:11] <flaccid> dude: this is not a wine support channel
[07:11] <dude> sorry
[07:12] <flaccid> thats why they have #wine
[07:12] <Brydenn33> flaccid:
[07:12] <Brydenn33> brydenn@c-67-169-218-218:~$ sudo mount -a
[07:12] <Brydenn33> Volume is scheduled for check.
[07:12] <Brydenn33> Please boot into Windows TWICE, or use the 'force' mount option.
[07:12] <Brydenn33> wtf does that mean ;)
[07:12] <mattik> BonBonTheJon:Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5940
[07:12] <flaccid> Brydenn33: i don't know
 i'll just try fixing it tomorrow then
[07:13] <Brydenn33> swear to god
[07:13] <flaccid> Brydenn33: try this. sudo umount -l /mnt/windows && sudo mount -a
[07:13] <Brydenn33> if its not one thing its another
[07:13] <flaccid> ^^ what does that return, Brydenn33?
[07:13] <mattik> BonBonTheJon: Kubuntu don't know my card
[07:13] <Brydenn33> brydenn@c-67-169-218-218:~$ sudo umount -l /mnt/windows && sudo mount -a
[07:13] <Brydenn33> umount: /mnt/windows: not mounted
[07:14] <flaccid> Brydenn33: anything else?
[07:14] <Brydenn33> nope
[07:14] <flaccid> Brydenn33: did it mount. ls -l /mnt/windows
[07:14] <Brydenn33> no
[07:14] <BonBonTheJon> mattik: i don't know
[07:14] <Brydenn33> anyway, thanks for your help flaccid. i'm gonna go eat dinner
[07:14] <Brydenn33> night all
[07:15] <flaccid> Brydenn33: it should of. try remove the ls=utf8 option
[07:15] <flaccid> no return means mounts were successful
[07:17] <mattik> BonBonTheJon: What is the identifier of my card? It's Radeon 9250.
[07:17] <BonBonTheJon> mattik: i dont' know, maybe some one else does
[07:18] <mattik> BonBonTheJon: Thank you
[07:18] <mattik> :)
[07:20] <whyso> how do i change permissions for a disk
[07:20] <whyso> or owner i mean
[07:22] <Healot> you can't do that; you can do that on directories and files though
[07:24] <sv0> man chmod
[07:24] <sv0> man chown
[07:24] <Genix|linux> is wine really slow or is it just firefox
[07:24] <dude_> !qemu
[07:24] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:26] <whyso> ok thanks, so to make the sdb1 owned by whyso: chown whyso media:/sdb1
[07:26] <globe> is there a way to fix a stubborn boot-time kernel panic?
[07:26] <whyso> that right?
[07:27] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: no, you can't do that
[07:27] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: one thing is the command line will not understand media:/sdb1, that is only in konqueror
[07:27] <whyso> ah ok, thanks
[07:29] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: and, the permissions should be okay, they are set up so you can't mess anything up without some trouble
[07:29] <whyso> gotcha! but i cant set them cause im not owner :(
[07:31] <whyso> so, can i change folder permissions by command line?
[07:31] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: some, what are you wanting to change
[07:32] <mattik> BonBonTheJon: I get X running. Thank you very much !! :)
[07:33] <BonBonTheJon> mattik: didn't do much, but you';re welcome
[07:33] <whyso> permissions for my 2nd hard drives partition, and permissions for a folder on my desktop
[07:34] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: ok, you need to know the mount for the partition, then do 'sudo chown whyso:whyso /folder'
[07:34] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: also type in 'man chown' at the command line for more details
[07:35] <Jobberwacky> that's a funny command
[07:35] <whyso> gotcha! ty
[07:38] <Solveneq> hey does anyone have a problem with kvpnc crashing?
[07:39] <whyso> hmmm not doing anything, do i have to unmount them first?
[07:41] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: it should work on the folder, i'm checking about the partition
[07:43] <klerfayt> will edgy have latest nvidia driver in non-official repo?
[07:43] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: i need to head to bed, but you can look here http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[07:43] <whyso> k ty!
[07:44] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: i think there is some setting when you mount it for that
[07:44] <whyso> im in edgy right now, want me to check kle?
[07:44] <Solveneq> ooooookay... now IRC works and no other program can pick up my internet connection ?
[07:44] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: i know you can change the owner of the folder
[07:44] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: you can auto complete the name in konversation by hitting tab
[07:44] <dude_> any other info about beryl? how to?
[07:45] <BonBonTheJon> whyso: good lucj
[07:46] <whyso> BonBonTheJon: thanks!
[07:46] <dude_> bonbon: have you tried beryl?
[07:46] <Solveneq> omg.. how come no applications recognize im on the net besides Konversation lol
[07:54] <puttlick> when it says y/n in console it is cancelling when I use y Why?
[07:54] <poningru> puttlick: try yes
[07:54] <puttlick> Nope, didn't work ==(
[07:55] <gragusa> anybody on edgy eft on a ibm x40?
[07:57] <puttlick> Now it works... restarded the console
[07:57] <poningru> .... weird
[08:01] <rawrness> this is very werid
[08:01] <rawrness> amaorak don't want to build my libary right
[08:01] <rawrness> it skipped like 70% of the files
[08:04] <Ashex> anyone else been having issues with the latest edgy update making the k menu's/bars unresponsive?
[08:04] <Ashex> !bug > me
[08:05] <Ashex> !bug > Ashex
[08:07] <whyso> nope mine are ok
[08:07] <ZeroCool> has any used smart package installer ?
[08:08] <abattoir> ZeroCool: i have, why?
[08:08] <ZeroCool> well, I need to install some .rpm packages, and this would seem to be the ticket
[08:09] <abattoir> ZeroCool: nope
[08:09] <ZeroCool> ???
[08:09] <abattoir> ZeroCool: it doesnt work that way
[08:09] <ZeroCool> okay, explain pls
[08:09] <abattoir> ZeroCool: it handles rpms *only* on rpm-based distros
[08:09] <abattoir> ZeroCool: on deb based distros, it handles *only* debs
[08:09] <abattoir> you might want to consider alien
[08:09] <abattoir> !alien
[08:09] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:10] <ZeroCool> man, I need to get srm package
[08:10] <abattoir> ZeroCool: but be aware that packages made for rpm distros(suse, primarily) most probably will not work
[08:10] <abattoir> ZeroCool: what program?
[08:10] <rawrness> evilness
[08:10] <ZeroCool> srm
[08:10] <ZeroCool> its like rm but much more
[08:11] <abattoir> ZeroCool: you have a link?
[08:11] <abattoir> ZeroCool: for the rpm, maybe?
[08:11] <ZeroCool> just a min...
[08:11] <morghanphoenix> When I upgrade my graphics card what do I need to do to get it working? Just install the driver or do I need to recompile the kernel and all that crap?
[08:12] <ZeroCool> heres the link: http://srm.sourceforge.net/
[08:13] <whyso> how do i change the owner of a partition?
[08:13] <DemonThing> partitions have owners?
[08:13] <DemonThing> or do you mean of a mounted one
[08:13] <abattoir> ZeroCool: redhat rpm *might* work(after converting w/ alien), but i definitely don't recommend it
[08:13] <abattoir> ZeroCool: get the source and compile it if you can
[08:13] <whyso> one thats mounted
[08:13] <DemonThing> whyso: use the "uid" option when mounting
[08:13] <DemonThing> so if your username is whyso
[08:13] <DemonThing> and you want it owned by whyso
[08:13] <DemonThing> then
[08:14] <DemonThing> mount <blah> -o uid=whyso
[08:14] <ZeroCool> hmmm, okay here one, I never compiled a app.. before. <grin>
[08:14] <DemonThing> or put that under your options in fstab
[08:14] <whyso> DemonThing: thanks! but i want it to do this when i boot up, so i dont have to do it every time
[08:14] <DemonThing> yeah
[08:14] <DemonThing> so
[08:14] <abattoir> ZeroCool: why dont you just use purge instead?
[08:14] <DemonThing> well the only way I can think of is to edit /etc/fstab
[08:14] <DemonThing> and put uid=whyso under the options
[08:14] <ZeroCool> purge ?
[08:14] <abattoir> ZeroCool: wait a sec
[08:14] <DemonThing> options as in where stuff like noatime, noauto, defaults, ro, etc tend to go
[08:15] <abattoir> ZeroCool: sorry, meant shred :P 'man shred'
[08:15] <DemonThing> there's probably a graphical way of doing it to I'd imagine
[08:15] <abattoir> ZeroCool: try that in a terminal, it'd give you more info about that program
[08:15] <abattoir> ZeroCool: hit 'q' to quit it
[08:15] <morghanphoenix> I wish I could say the same. The next person who puts something on the net without giving a list of it's dependancies is gonna get hunted down and slaped with a raw salmon!
[08:15] <DemonThing> or put #shred in Run Command or konqueror
[08:16] <ZeroCool> yep, shred is there..
[08:17] <abattoir> ZeroCool: use that :P
[08:17] <ZeroCool> I type shred --help
[08:17] <ZeroCool> saw the help settings..
[08:18] <ZeroCool> but I;m wondering which is better shred or srm
[08:18] <whyso> so defaults,errors=remount-ro would become :defaults,errors=remount-ro,uid=whyso
[08:18] <whyso> ?
[08:18] <DemonThing> yes
[08:19] <dude_> !krdc
[08:19] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 490 kB, installed size 956 kB
[08:19] <whyso> k asesome testing it
[08:19] <DemonThing> :)
[08:19] <ZeroCool> okay I will test it.
[08:19] <DemonThing> tip: to mount boot partitions, run "mount -a"
[08:19] <DemonThing> as root, of course
[08:19] <dude_> any info about krdc?
[08:19] <ZeroCool> just that I deal with clients .xls files that contain cc# and need to make sure, they are deleted
[08:21] <whyso> hmmm did it but said i didtn have permission to edit fstab
[08:21] <ZeroCool> okay thats, and goodnight..zzzzzzzzzzzz
[08:21] <DemonThing> you need to be root to edit it
[08:21] <dude_> any info about krdc?
[08:21] <DemonThing> dude_: what kind of info?
[08:22] <dude_> how to configure
[08:22] <DemonThing> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/krdc/index.html
[08:23] <DemonThing> I googled "krdc", third result
[08:23] <dude_> tnx
[08:23] <DemonThing> I wonder if there is
[08:23] <DemonThing> !google
[08:23] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[08:23] <DemonThing> indeed it is
[08:24] <rawrness> !anything
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <DemonThing> hah
[08:25] <rawrness> well i will now turn in
[08:25] <rawrness> night all
[08:25] <DemonThing> bye
[08:26] <whyso> holy shite! screen just went blue ranomly and rebooted lol
[08:26] <whyso> so how do i log in as root?
[08:26] <DemonThing> wonderful
[08:26] <DemonThing> um
[08:26] <DemonThing> well
[08:26] <DemonThing> you don't
[08:26] <DemonThing> you should be using sudo or kdesu
[08:26] <DemonThing> !sudo
[08:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:27] <DemonThing> I like this bot.
[08:27] <whyso> yeah thats cool :)
[08:28] <whyso> white space doesnt matter in fstab right
[08:28] <DemonThing> it does
[08:29] <DemonThing> well, you have to have whitespace between columns
[08:29] <DemonThing> but the amount of whitespace is up to you
[08:29] <DemonThing> and comments and blank lines obviously do nothing
[08:43] <ubuntu> help!!!!!!! i edited fstab and now kubuntu wont boot!!! :((((((( im back in live CD any idea how to fix>?
[08:45] <jbrouhard> Anyone have a link to a how-to to make kde look like mswindows ?
[08:45] <jbrouhard> i remember there being one off buntudot.org
[08:45] <jbrouhard> but the site redirects to the fridge right now
[08:45] <t3hwiz0rd> why would you want kde to look like doze'bloze?
[08:46] <jbrouhard> cause i want it to
[08:46] <jbrouhard> actually, i'm just looking for a better theme
[08:46] <jbrouhard> than plain KDE
[08:49] <dude> any link to krdc how-to
[08:51] <dude> !vnc
[08:51] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[08:53] <dude> !freenx
[08:53] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[08:53] <dude> !berylxgl
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berylxgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <dude> !beryl-xgl
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl-xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <dude> !beryl_xgl
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl_xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <dude> !beryl
[08:54] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[08:58] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: give it up
[08:58] <t3hwiz0rd> !beryl
[08:58] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[08:58] <cpk2> jbrouhard: go to kde-look.org
[08:59] <esas> hi, how can i make a MySQL server with Kubuntu???
[08:59] <cpk2> esas: look at the lamp page in the wiki
[09:01] <dude> guys can you help me configure krdc?
[09:02] <esas> but what do you need to create a LAMP server?
[09:03] <cpk2> esas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:08] <puttlick> I can't install a package because it says it culd hurt other packages, could i get around that?
[09:08] <cpk2> puttlick: what package?
[09:08] <puttlick> Compiz and compiz-gnome
[09:09] <cpk2> what does it want to remove?
[09:10] <puttlick> it don't says
[09:10] <puttlick> but it says it cant write in /usr/lib/compiz/libgconf.so
[09:10] <ubuntu_> :(((( im so screwed i just edited fstab and now i cant boot
[09:11] <cpk2> plus you should ask in the xgl channel =P
[09:11] <cpk2> !compiz
[09:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:11] <ubuntu_> cant figure out how to add it from live CD either
[09:14] <dbglt> can anyone explain why I can't update? I came in here earlier, and replaced all instances of "dapper" with "edgy" in my sources.list. Then I did an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:14] <dbglt> but now it complains of packages not being found
[09:15] <cpk2> maybe you need more repos?
[09:15] <cpk2> !edgy
[09:15] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:15] <dbglt> cpk2: it is from the main repo, it says it is missing packages
[09:16] <cpk2> missing dependencies?
[09:16] <dbglt> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main openoffice.org-style-default 2.0.4~rc3-0ubuntu4
[09:16] <dbglt>   404 Not Found
[09:16] <dbglt> get that for about 20 packages
[09:16] <dbglt> and then install can't continue
[09:16] <cpk2> that means it cant hit that repo
[09:17] <cpk2> try a different location
[09:17] <cpk2> replace the au with something else
[09:17] <dbglt> ok
[09:17] <puttlick> does somebody know where I could find xmodmap?
[09:18] <dbglt> puttlick: where you can find it?
[09:18] <dbglt> have you got it installed?
[09:18] <cpk2> !info xmodmap
[09:18] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[09:19] <Vuen_away> okay, this is driving me insane
[09:19] <Vuen> why does firefox use the shitty gnome file picker instead of the kde one?
[09:19] <Steven_M> hi all
[09:19] <cpk2> "file picker"?
[09:19] <cpk2> i just use konq anyways
[09:20] <cpk2> they all are the same now
[09:20] <zorglu_> filepicker = file selector i think
[09:20] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: why? because its gtk.. numbnuts.
[09:20] <zorglu_> Vuen: it use the gnome one because it is using gnome all over and not kde
[09:20] <t3hwiz0rd> kde is qt lol
[09:21] <Lam_> is there a way to edit konquerer's browser settings more in-depth?  it seems rather lacking in terms of browser customizability than firefox
[09:21] <Lam_> unless im blind
[09:21] <t3hwiz0rd> Lam_: they're there somewhere just not in plain sight.
[09:21] <zorglu_> t3hwiz0rd: avoid this kind of words here
[09:21] <Lam_> would it be in kcontrol by any chance?
[09:21] <morghanphoenix> I was hoping to avoid what I'm doing now, but couldn't find any good dvd rippers that worked right in KDE.
[09:22] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: so this is the gtk file selector? why is it so awful?
[09:22] <t3hwiz0rd> Lam_: its somewhere inside the settings, where I don't know... KDE is a bit too over the top on setting sometimes.
[09:22] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: and more importantly, why does firefox use it? how can i get firefox to use the kde file selector?
[09:22] <morghanphoenix> All that extra space for gnome just so I can run OGM, almost reminds me of a windows install.
[09:22] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: GTK is meant to function very simply. Thats why its the Free Desktop of choice in most major distros. Its a lot like windows and OS x, its simplified and mainstreamed.
[09:22] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: its not meant to be as customizable as kde.
[09:22] <Vuen> ah.
[09:23] <Lam_> i like how things are structured in kde so far, but i'd prefer if konquerer's settings were more in plain sight if they expect people that like to customize to adopt konquerer instead of firefox
[09:23] <Lam_> :/
[09:23] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[09:23] <Vuen> i'm disappointed that they think i'm too stupid to type in a damn path.
[09:23] <Vuen> so how do i get rid of it?
[09:23] <zorglu_> well that and the fact is it not gpl :)
[09:23] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: get rid of what? gnome or firefox?
[09:23] <Vuen> the file selector!
[09:23] <Vuen> is it built in or something?
[09:23] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: yes, its part of gtk lol
[09:23] <morghanphoenix> most of the time I can't find my damn paths without using slocate.
[09:23] <Vuen> aargh
[09:23] <Vuen> so i'm stuck with it?
[09:23] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: its not optional.
[09:23] <Vuen> :(
[09:23] <Vuen> but i like firefox
[09:23] <zorglu_> Vuen: already answered this one, you can not remove this file selector from firefox
[09:23] <Vuen> i really, really like firefox
[09:23] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: that or sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox ;-) lol
[09:23] <Vuen> :(
[09:24] <Vuen> *sniff*
[09:24] <Vuen> can i get mouse gestures on konqueror?
[09:24] <zorglu_> Vuen: yes, there are options for that
[09:24] <Lam_> i think you can get mouse gestures in kde even
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> You can
[09:24] <Vuen> i'm not interested in global gestures, just browser gestures
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> I have to turn it off every time I do a fresh install
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> Opera has mouse gestures too
[09:25] <morghanphoenix> I like Opera much better than Firefox
[09:25] <dude> what is the command for editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:25] <Steven_M> I know I asked this the other day, but I had to leave in a hurry before I got an answer, can anyone help me out with a samba problem?
[09:25] <morghanphoenix> sudo kate path
[09:25] <t3hwiz0rd> Steven_M: whats the problem?
[09:25] <morghanphoenix> or kwrite
[09:25] <t3hwiz0rd> morghanphoenix: nano! nano!!!!
[09:25] <Jucato> Vuen: I think you can set the gestures in KDE to affect only a specific window
[09:25] <morghanphoenix> or whatever your editor is
[09:25] <Jucato> !kdesu
[09:25] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:26] <morghanphoenix> I use pico
[09:26] <Jucato> morghanphoenix: ^^^^^^
[09:26] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: you shouldnt use sudo with gui's
[09:26] <cpk2> aww Jucato beat me
[09:26] <t3hwiz0rd> pico or nano... all the same really.
[09:26] <morghanphoenix> lol, I always use sudo, tend to stay in yakuake constantly
[09:26] <t3hwiz0rd> i think nano is a bit more feature-rich.
[09:26] <Jucato> cpk2: :P
[09:26] <Vuen> morghanphoenix: what does the file selector look like in opera?
[09:27] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: its nifty
[09:27] <t3hwiz0rd> cpk2: vi is for aliens 0.x
[09:28] <t3hwiz0rd> i'll be back on on t3hwiz0rd-server in a second folks...
[09:28] <t3hwiz0rd> booting to another os
[09:28] <Jucato> I'm not sure if it's the same for Linux, but the newer Google products/services don't render correctly in Opera...
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> Is that where you open and save files?
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> vuen
[09:29] <Vuen> morghanphoenix: yes
[09:29] <morghanphoenix> A typical file browser where you can type the path in up top.
[09:29] <Jucato> I think he means the File Dialog Box
[09:29] <morghanphoenix> you can edit the path without navicating your whole file system if that's what you mean
[09:30] <morghanphoenix> how the hell did I hit a c instead of a g?
[09:30] <Jucato> heh fast fingers :)
[09:30] <dude> what is the command for editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:31] <morghanphoenix> I think people are so anti-opera because it used to use ads and wasn't really that good
[09:31] <morghanphoenix> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:31] <Vuen> morghanphoenix: i tried opera long after it had ads. i hated it because it kept crashing, it was ugly, and its javascript support was HORRIBLE
[09:31] <Vuen> i couldn't even check my mail
[09:31] <morghanphoenix> It's been really improved recently
[09:32] <Vuen> i hear the new opera is nice, yes. but i really like firefox
[09:32] <Jucato> 2 reasons why I didn't like Opera: Google services/products and URL (Tab) completion.... :(
[09:32] <morghanphoenix> They started selling browsers for the DS and cell phones, making plenty of money to pay for having a really nice free computer browser.
[09:33] <morghanphoenix> I love the saved sessions.
[09:33] <Jucato> yeah I loved that. I also love the fact that it uses Qt. lol :P
[09:33] <morghanphoenix> I want to be able to kill my browser at night and get all the pages I had open back the next day, and it keeps the history for my back button too.
[09:34] <morghanphoenix> I don't believe I'm installing gnome.
[09:34] <Jucato> morghanphoenix: you are?
[09:35] <morghanphoenix> The one way it's better for me tan KDE is DVD rippers that actually work!
[09:35] <morghanphoenix> Tried running one in KDE and it recoreded 7 hours of a two hour movie
[09:35] <Steven_M> t3hwiz0rd: When I try to make a samba password for my normal account called red from my sudo account using the command: "sudo smbpasswd red", after I type in the new password twice it says "Failed to find entry for red"
[09:36] <morghanphoenix> At least Kaffiene plays the rips in Kubuntu, it didn't in slackware.
[09:36] <Lam_> Steven_M: try $ sudo smbpasswd -a red
[09:36] <morghanphoenix> I had all the deps installed and it still viewed my video files as audio.
[09:37] <puttlick> I've got xmodmap installed... but not the file /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us Don't get it... tried to reinstall it, doest work
[09:37] <morghanphoenix> I personally like fluxbox.
[09:39] <Steven_M> Lam_: the confusing thing is that wasn't needed for my other user accounts
[09:40] <morghanphoenix> Damn that's a lot of dependancies!
[09:41] <morghanphoenix> At least they list them all though.
[09:41] <morghanphoenix> I've had a few programs I've downloaded that forgot to tell me what I needed, now that was annoying.
[09:41] <Jucato> does that happen with APT? *gasps*
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> source installs
[09:42] <Jucato> ah :P
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> Too many spiffy toys don't have deb packages
[09:43] <morghanphoenix> woah, I didn't have automake on here
[09:43] <cpk2> Steven_M: dont you need to add the samba user first?
[09:43] <puttlick> could someone send me a copy of xmodmap.us can\t find it )*
[09:43] <cpk2> i wish when you use apt-build it would tell aptitude not to install over your compiled install =(
[09:44] <cpk2> or even when you build with apt-get
[09:44] <morghanphoenix> I love pkgtool, too bad there's nothig quite so efficient for kubuntu.
[09:45] <cpk2> kind of dumb, they put in the functionality to compile your own .deb and install them and then right after you install with your own .deb it wants to "upgrade" it
[09:45] <Steven_M> cpk2: I thouaght I did, using the kde file sharing pannel
[09:47] <cpk2> Steven_M:
[09:47] <cpk2> sudo useradd -s /bin/true mark
[09:47] <cpk2> sudo smbpasswd -L -a mark
[09:47] <cpk2> sudo smbpasswd -L -e mark
[09:47] <esas> hi, i have a problem with the mysql administrator
[09:47] <esas> if i start it, it gives a window
[09:47] <cpk2> would make a user named mark and set up a samba username for him
[09:48] <Vuen> question, is there a version of gvim that uses the qt toolkit?
[09:48] <esas> can somebody help me???
[09:48] <cpk2> Steven_M: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 this is a really good samba article
[09:48] <Steven_M> ok thanks all
[09:48] <Jucato> hm...
[09:49] <Steven_M> be back soon
[09:50] <cpk2> anyone know a way to stop aptitude from wanted to "upgrade" packages that I compiled myself using apt-build or even apt-get source -b
[09:51] <Jucato> cpk2: isn't there an option to lock down a package in APT?
[09:51] <cpk2> *besides* using hold
[09:51] <visik7> Jucato: echo "package hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[09:52] <Jucato> visik7: heh it was for cpk2. but I guess he doesn't want "hold" :)
[09:52] <visik7> uh ?
[09:52] <cpk2> besides using hold, imagine if I used apt-build to build everything while I was on vacation, would I want to have to type out hold for everything? =)
[09:52] <Jucato> clm
[09:52] <Jucato> er...
[09:53] <visik7> just don't run apt ?
[09:54] <cpk2> and then if want a really big app that I dont want to compile later?
[09:54] <visik7> you are weird
[09:54] <cpk2> arent we all?
[09:55] <visik7> I really don't understand what you are doing/what to do
[09:55] <morghanphoenix> Look at all my space fill up, good thing I had 15GB to spare when I started this.
[09:55] <visik7> s/what/want
[09:56] <Zaire> well typical no ones talking or answering in #phpbb
[09:56] <cpk2> say i want to compile just some random app for the hell of it using apt-build or apt-get source -b i dont want aptitude to want to "upgrade" the .deb i just made and installed
[09:56] <Vuen> ???
[09:56] <Vuen> woah
[09:56] <Vuen> freenode says i'm banned from #kde
[09:56] <Vuen> i can't imagine why that is
[09:56] <Jucato> ?
[09:56] <Jucato> Vuen: what have you done? :P
[09:56] <Vuen> i wonder if my housemate got me banned...
[09:57] <Vuen> urgh...
[09:57] <Vuen> bbl proxy
[09:57] <visik7> cpk2: hold the random app ?
[09:57] <cpk2> and to me hold doesnt seem like a very good solution because what if I want to make LOTS of .deb for myself, would be a hassle to hold those
[09:57] <morghanphoenix> I've been banned from KDE before
[09:57] <morghanphoenix> I think it's an IP block block
[09:57] <cpk2> and dist-upgrade will upgrade even apps that are being held
[09:58] <visik7> obviously
[09:58] <visik7> they complain about missed deps
[09:58] <Zaire> it is an address ban
[09:58] <visik7> cpk2: hold when you install
[09:59] <visik7> you can try to pin the apt-build local repo
[09:59] <visik7> to something unupgradable
[09:59] <visik7> cpk2: man apt_preferences
[10:00] <sorush20> what program do I use to be able to log the amount of download upload through my wireless connection?
[10:01] <cpk2> visik7: the thing that really grates is that apt-cache policy says the installed and the candidate are the exact same version when it wants to upgrade my own debs
[10:01] <visik7> cpk2: the only solution is to pin the repo of the apt-build
[10:03] <cpk2> visik7: so do i want to pin it at 999 or 1001? I would like aptitude to still notify when there is actually a newer version
[10:03] <Vuen> hmph
[10:04] <visik7> cpk2: read the man and do some tests
[10:04] <morghanphoenix> Argh! So much work just to put firefly on my hard drive!
[10:04] <Vuen> i'm too lazy to find a working socks proxy
[10:04] <Vuen> i wish i knew why i was banned from #kde :( i like kde, that's why i'm here
[10:05] <Zaire> have you tried tor
[10:05] <Vuen> yes, it's currently banned network-wide
[10:05] <Zaire> ah
[10:05] <Vuen> anyway, i was wondering if you guys could give me any kde alternatives to some softwares that use the gtk toolkit
[10:05] <Vuen> firefox, gaim, gvim, openoffice
[10:05] <t3hwiz0rd-server> anyone miss me?
[10:06] <visik7> Vuen: dsl.bell.ca are banned from #kde
[10:06] <t3hwiz0rd-server> Vuen: i know you did.
[10:06] <Vuen> most importantly is i'd like a qt version of vi
[10:06] <Vuen> visik7: woah, all of bell?
[10:06] <visik7> seems to be
[10:06] <Jucato> Vuen: firefox = Konqueror or Opera. GAIM = Kopete. OpenOffice = KOffice (new version released)
[10:06] <Vuen> like, canada-wide?
[10:06] <Vuen> WTF?
[10:06] <t3hwiz0rd-server> kde don't like canada
[10:06] <t3hwiz0rd-server> protest! blame germany!
[10:06] <Jucato> Vuen: you can go to #freenode and request to be unbanned
[10:06] <Vuen> WTF!@
[10:06] <Zaire> I noticed teh shipit cd thing is down
[10:07] <Vuen> Jucato: ah. nice.
[10:08] <Vuen> Jucato: the only important one in there was gvim. is there a vi for kde?
[10:08] <Jucato> Google? :)
[10:08] <Vuen> tried that
[10:08] <Vuen> :(
[10:08] <Vuen> no luck
[10:08] <Jucato> www.kde-apps.org ?
[10:08] <Jucato> hm.. no luck either :)
[10:09] <sorush20> what program do I use to be able to log the amount of download upload through my wireless connection?
[10:09] <sorush20> during the week or month etc?
[10:11] <Vuen> i'm confused. i'm trying to use kopete here
[10:11] <Vuen> i'm signed in to one msn account
[10:11] <Vuen> how do i sign into a second one?
[10:12] <osiris> ok, this may be the wrong room, but say i wanted to make a headless ubuntu box, that just booted and played one shoutcast stream.  what avenues should i explore
[10:12] <Vuen> nevermind
[10:13] <t3hwiz0rd-server> Vuen: are you behaving?
[10:13] <morghanphoenix> That's just because Seattle is so close to Canada.
[10:13] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd-server: what?
[10:13] <Vuen> behaving?
[10:14] <dbglt> osiris: probably wouldn't be worth bothering with ubuntu
[10:14] <dbglt> osiris: much tighter and smaller distros available for that
[10:14] <t3hwiz0rd-server> Vuen: lol... im kiddin' kiddin
[10:14] <Vuen> i can't believe #kde banned the entire country
[10:14] <cpk2> Vuen: why not use vi?
[10:14] <Vuen> what could canada possibly have done
[10:14] <osiris> dbglt, enlighten me
[10:15] <Healot> Canada created OpenBSD, hehe << doesn't make sense, sorry
[10:15] <osiris> say i wanna take beater box, and make it a headless shoutcast client for office music
[10:16] <sorush20> Vuen: what country?
[10:16] <osiris> the amp, and end wiring is easy.  its the software/attack method i lack
[10:17] <esas> hi, i cant open adept
[10:17] <esas> conversation with su failed, or somethong
[10:17] <dbglt> osiris: debian should be fine if you want to stick with apt. Slack will do fine as well. There are also a number of smaller custom-built distros, check out distrowatch if you need. Even a ubuntu base will be fine (but most of it is in the gui, that distinguishes it from debian anyway)
[10:17] <cox377> can anyone tell me how to add DNS server addressed to the nic under kubuntu?
[10:17] <esas> o -> i
[10:18] <cox377> !dns
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <dbglt> I've generally gone with debian for headless servers
[10:18] <t3hwiz0rd-server> suse makes a good headless server too
[10:18] <sorush20> where are my qtdir and kdedir?
[10:18] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i'd go either pure debian or suse.
[10:18] <osiris> dbglt, i know i could do dsl if i wanted small
[10:18] <cox377> does anyone know how to manually add DNS servers?
[10:19] <Healot> file /etc/resolv.conf
[10:19] <Healot> the entry nameserver <IP address>
[10:19] <osiris> thats not what i asked.  i wondered how i could do it in ubuntu
[10:20] <osiris> the distro doesnt matter
[10:20] <esas> i can't open adept anymore! , if i typ mu password and want to log in then i get these message :  conversation with su failed
[10:20] <dbglt> osiris: install what you want then, what's the problem of doing it in ubuntu?
[10:20] <esas> does anywone knows what i must do??
[10:21] <sorush20> esas: make sure that adept is not running at the moment.. do ps aux | grep ade*
[10:21] <osiris> what would i need to play a shoucats stream headless, what would i need to set it to auto boot a user, etc
[10:21] <osiris> come on
[10:22] <osiris> work with me here
[10:22] <sorush20> shoutcast? just use streamtuner
[10:22] <sorush20> osiris:
[10:22] <esas> it's not running, i want to start it, type the pass and ther, it says that
[10:22] <osiris> ok, streamtuner
[10:22] <sorush20> do sudo killall adept
[10:22] <sorush20> esas: do sudo killall adept
[10:23] <sorush20> osiris: you can save the streams using streamripper...
[10:23] <sorush20> osiris: sudo apt-get install streamtuner streamripper
[10:23] <osiris> i dont need to save the stream
[10:23] <sorush20> what about my question
[10:23] <sorush20> where are my qtdir and kdedir?
[10:23] <osiris> i just want to build a headles old box, to play a shoutcast stream i code in
[10:24] <osiris> to put music in our office
[10:24] <osiris> and for the time being, *ubuntu is distro of choice
[10:25] <esas> i cant kill it!!!
[10:25] <sorush20> esas: what error do you get ?
[10:25] <esas> tried, but stil isn't working
[10:25] <esas> conversation with su failed
[10:25] <sorush20> esas: did you do sudo killall adept ?
[10:26] <esas> yes
[10:26] <sorush20> esas: I think just reboot your computer or just reboot x server
[10:26] <osiris> might try finding the PID of adept, and kill -9'ing it
[10:26] <esas> ok i'm gonna try that
[10:26] <esas> brb
[10:26] <osiris> blah
[10:28] <jende> esas: Good day
[10:29] <jende> esas: so, what are your dramas today?
[10:33] <|Mikael|> hi there; how can i resize my harddisk where kubuntu is on it?
[10:33] <jende> |Mikael|: use qtparted
[10:34] <jende> !qtparted
[10:34] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB
[10:34] <|Mikael|> oh will look
[10:34] <|Mikael|> thx again jende ;)
[10:34] <jende> |Mikael|: no worries, mate! ;-)
[10:35] <|Mikael|> :D
[10:35] <jende> |Mikael|: its a nice tool, but it depends on what you wanna do. Means maybe you should use a LiveCD such as Knoppix
[10:36] <morghanphoenix> I'm now up to 800MB for my DVD ripper install, it's beginning to remind me of a windows installation.
[10:36] <jende> morghanphoenix: what?
[10:36] <morghanphoenix> Of course that included gnome
[10:36] <morghanphoenix> OGMRip
[10:36] <morghanphoenix> Stupid thing won't run GTK
[10:37] <jende> morghanphoenix:I would have chosen DVD::Rip
[10:37] <morghanphoenix> Does it run cli too?
[10:37] <jende> morghanphoenix: I'll have a look; hold on
[10:38] <cox377> is there a command that lists all installed applications?
[10:38] <morghanphoenix> holy hell, build is installing even more deps
[10:38] <Martyo> does kubuntu come with firefox?
[10:39] <cox377> Martyo: yes
[10:39] <Zaire> what other database's can you get for linux aside from mysql?
[10:39] <dumbkiwi> Martyo: not by default.  You can install it from the universe repositories
[10:39] <cox377> dumbkiwi: opps... is it ubuntu that does?
[10:40] <Zaire> what other database's can you get for linux aside from mysql?
[10:40] <dumbkiwi> Martyo: dunno.  Never installed it.
[10:40] <Zaire> has to be a database server
[10:40] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: postgresql
[10:40] <jende> morghanphoenix: http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/en/separate/transcoding.html
[10:40] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, I have to remove firefox every time I install
[10:40] <Martyo> why would you want to remove firefox?
[10:40] <jende> Martyo: yes it does
[10:41] <jende> Martyo: mybe he doesnt like FF
[10:41] <morghanphoenix> I'm one of those wierd people who thinks Opera is far superior to firefox.
[10:41] <Martyo> ah, opera is good, forgot about that ;)
[10:41] <jende> morghanphoenix: check out the link I've posted, you'll be happy, I guess
[10:42] <morghanphoenix> nice
[10:43] <morghanphoenix> Okay, that's nice, it need libogm, but it's not in the repos, but it's in the repos, at least the debian ones.
[10:43] <jende> morghanphoenix: yep
[10:44] <Vuen> alright, i gotta wake up in four hours for a meeting, a midterm, and an assignment
[10:44] <Vuen> i'm a dead man
[10:44] <morghanphoenix> I'm really beginning to hate source installs
[10:44] <jende> morghanphoenix: it takes roughly 10mins to install
[10:44] <|Mikael|> jende: i can't resize my primary hdd. do i have to use a text only mode?
[10:44] <|Mikael|> i mean, do i have to quit X?
[10:44] <jende> |Mikael|: you will have to use Knoppix
[10:44] <|Mikael|> oh
[10:45] <jende> |Mikael|: or your system will be fuc***
[10:45] <cox377> !rythmbox
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rythmbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <jende> !rhytmbox
[10:45] <|Mikael|> jende: and that wouldn't be nice, i guess
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rhytmbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <|Mikael|> so i will boot then knoppix
[10:45] <|Mikael|> thx anyway
[10:45] <jende> |Mikael|: yep, you'll better do that
[10:45] <cox377> !rhythmbox
[10:45] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:45] <morghanphoenix> how do I get libogm?
[10:46] <morghanphoenix> what package if any, or web site if none?
[10:46] <cox377> does anyone here use rhythmbox?
[10:46] <jende> morghanphoenix: sudo apt-get install libogm
[10:46] <morghanphoenix> not if I can help it
[10:46] <morghanphoenix> done that, not in my repos.
[10:46] <morghanphoenix> which repo is it in?
[10:48] <jende> morghanphoenix: are you having debian repos in your sources?
[10:48] <cpk2> !info libogm
[10:48] <ubotu> Package libogm does not exist in any distro I know
[10:48] <morghanphoenix> Some of them, I'm using kubuntu
[10:49] <jende> cpk2: G'day
[10:49] <cpk2> jende: evening =)
[10:49] <morghanphoenix> only the deb repos I've needed so far
[10:49] <morghanphoenix> oh, this is kubuntu, I thought I was still in KDE
[10:49] <jende> morghanphoenix: I'll pastebin my sources
[10:50] <morghanphoenix> !pastebin
[10:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:50] <morghanphoenix> Bookmarking that this time
[10:51] <morghanphoenix> hmm, that's not the search part.
[10:51] <morghanphoenix> So I install all these fresh packages and now they need to be updated?
[10:51] <jende> morghanphoenix: yep
[10:51] <morghanphoenix> shouldn't apt give me the newest ones?
[10:51] <jende> morghanphoenix: depends on your soources.list
[10:52] <jende> morghanphoenix: depends on your sources.list
[10:52] <morghanphoenix> pastebin url?
[10:52] <jende> morghanphoenix: what?
[10:53] <morghanphoenix> For the sources list.
[10:53] <jende> cpk2: good evening then ;-)
[10:53] <jende> morghanphoenix: so, you wanna pastebin your sources?
[10:53] <cpk2> !easysource
[10:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:54] <morghanphoenix> you said you'd pastebin yours, I've done source-o-matic, no libogm in my repos.
[10:54] <jende> cpk2: I don't like that source-o-matic stuff. Do you?
[10:54] <cpk2> that page is great
[10:54] <cpk2> libogm doesnt exist
[10:54] <jende> morghanphoenix: mine wouldn't help you. I forgot that all boxes here are on edgy or debian sid
[10:55] <morghanphoenix> Then why is it a dependancy? Has it been replaged?
[10:55] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: what are you trying to do?
[10:55] <morghanphoenix> Install OGMRip
[10:55] <morghanphoenix> It says it needs libogm and it's not a part of my package I just put together from source.
[10:55] <jende> cpk2: its called libogg now
[10:56] <morghanphoenix> ahh, I have that
[10:56] <JohnFlux> "We could not calculate driving directions between california and Brighton, UK.
[10:56] <JohnFlux> "
[10:56] <JohnFlux> bah
[10:56] <JohnFlux> stupid google
[10:56] <jende> morghanphoenix: http://freshmeat.net/projects/libogg/
[10:56] <morghanphoenix> Doesn't seem to see it though, probably won't work.
[10:56] <morghanphoenix> I have the complete libogg
[10:57] <jende> morghanphoenix: and your riptool wont link to it?
[10:57] <morghanphoenix> nope, keeps asking for libogm
[10:57] <morghanphoenix> And I though Thoggen was a pain.
[10:58] <cpk2> hrmm ld might help?
[10:58] <morghanphoenix> what's that?
[10:59] <morghanphoenix> Forgive me if I ask stupid questions, less than a month on linux.
[10:59] <cpk2> gnu linker
[10:59] <cpk2> might do what you need
[11:00] <cpk2> man ld
[11:02] <morghanphoenix> afk
[11:08] <jende> cpk2: he sould simply get dvd::rip and transcode and he'll be fine
[11:10] <morghanphoenix> giving me no end of crap, it's not my favorite plan, but I think I'm going to install automatix to get dvdrip from it.
[11:10] <jende> morghanphoenix: hold on...
[11:11] <jende> morghanphoenix: http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/doc/install.cipp
[11:11] <morghanphoenix> wait a minute, ./configure worked that time
[11:11] <jende> morghanphoenix: and follow up the installsteps given in the debian section
[11:12] <jende> morghanphoenix: what arre you installing now?
[11:18] <jende> cpk2: did you hear anything re firefox and problems using the name/logo?
[11:19] <cpk2> jende: havent bothered to look into it much seeing as how I switched to konq when i got rid of windows
[11:19] <jende> cpk2: in the latest debian updates it's called now icedove; wondering if it is going to be general prob or if its jus a debian one
[11:20] <jende> !icedove
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icedove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <dude_> jende: have you tried beryl?
[11:21] <jende> dude_: not yet, hadn't had enough time - but I'll give it go this evening
[11:21] <jende> dude_: what were your probs with beryl anyway?
[11:21] <jende> !beryl
[11:21] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[11:21] <morghanphoenix> Iceweasel?
[11:22] <dude_> jende: im planning to install it now
[11:22] <dude_> jende: im planning to install it now but im afraid... :)
[11:22] <jende> morghanphoenix: dont give us always just fragments its not easy to help if you're giving us just fragments or a single word
[11:23] <jende> dude_: want me to have a look at it quickly?your dapper aren't you?
[11:23] <cpk2> hrmm printf "%s\n" "printf work!" gives me bash: !": event not found
[11:23] <cpk2> ?
[11:23] <dude_> jende: yewes
[11:23] <morghanphoenix> Refering to the mozilla project, wondering if that's what was being fished for.
[11:23] <dude_> jende: yes, can you guide me?
[11:24] <morghanphoenix> Anyways, I need to restart now, think I've got it right.
[11:24] <morghanphoenix> be back in a sec
[11:24] <jende> dude_: how experienced are you?
[11:24] <cpk2> why would you need to restart after installing something?
[11:24] <jende> dude_: http://forum.beryl-project.org/forum-5-howto   and check that site first
[11:25] <dude_> jende: first time to use kubuntu
[11:25] <jende> dude_: and linux in general?
[11:25] <dude_> jende: first time also
[11:25] <dude_> :)
[11:25] <zorglu_> cpk2: the '!' is a meta char, try remplacing it by
[11:25] <zorglu_> cpk2: by '\!'
[11:26] <jende> dude_: to be honest...I wouldn't install beryl then
[11:27] <dude_> ok
[11:27] <cpk2> zorglu_: thanks
[11:28] <dude_> jende: why?
[11:28] <jende> dude_: as its stated on the beryl forum installing beryl on kubuntu is still sticky, I wouldn't say beryl is menat to be used by beginners
[11:28] <cpk2> zorglu_: \! formats the \ in there but 'printf work!' works, guess shouldnt use double quotes =P
[11:29] <jende> dude_: eventhough beryl is still on PRE-ALPHA!!!
[11:30] <jende> dude_: you know what pre-alpha means, i hope
[11:30] <Zaire> damnit I keep getting reffered back here for help with php and mysql
[11:31] <dude_> ya
[11:31] <jende> Zaire: wouldn't it be better to use for php/mysql the mailinglists of php/mysql?
[11:32] <sredna> When I run aptitude upgrade and some packages are 'not upgraded', why is that?
[11:33] <jende> dude_: why did you have on mind to install beryl?What were youur thoughts?
[11:33] <jende> sredna: try sudo apt-get -f install
[11:34] <dude_> jende: effects
[11:34] <dude_> :)
[11:34] <jende> dude_: just wait a bit until it's at least in alpha
[11:34] <cpk2> there seems to be a lot more to bash than i would have thought =\
[11:35] <sredna> jende: Thank you :)
[11:35] <jende> cpk2: what are you about to do anyway?
[11:35] <Zaire> hey cpk2 how would I configure php5 to work with mysql?
[11:35] <jende> sredna: did that help?
[11:35] <dude_> jende: ok, sure, forget beryl for the meantime
[11:35] <jende> dude_: *ggg*
[11:35] <sredna> jende: I let the normal upgrade finish first :)
[11:35] <cpk2> jende: nothing
[11:35] <jende> sredna: goon on ya
[11:36] <jende> sredna: good on ya
[11:36] <cpk2> sredna: its out already
[11:36] <cpk2> Zaire: ?? if you are just using phpbb2 everything should "just work"
[11:37] <sredna> I read at the dot about krita that "it has risen to become what is probably the best free image editing program today" -- so I hope that this time at least I can do anything at all with it ;)
[11:38] <Zaire> it doesn't however but Im not using the apt repo of phpbb2 cause it wasn't even coming close the problem with the whole thing is php5 isnt configuring to work with mysql
[11:38] <vge> Zaire: you have php5-mysql paggage installed?
[11:38] <Zaire> I tried that yea
[11:39] <dude_> jende: have you tried krdc?
[11:39] <nulix> hello ! ; I cannot write on my USB key after automatic installation ; only root can write ; what is wrong ?
[11:39] <cpk2> Zaire: have you checked to make sure php is working?
[11:39] <Zaire> how do you do that
[11:40] <cpk2> go to phpinfo page
[11:40] <cpk2> i think
[11:41] <vge> put <?php phpinfo(); ?> code into php page and open it with your browser
[11:41] <jende> dude_: yep
[11:41] <dude_> jende: i can't configure krdc
[11:42] <jende> dude_: what happens?
[11:42] <sredna> jende: No, that did not help. Maybe dist-upgrade would.
[11:42] <unique> How can I send a message to a new ID without adding the ID to my friends list in kopete?
[11:43] <jende> sredna: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:43] <Zaire> http://foxfire.hopto.org/phpbb2/admin/phpinfo.php
[11:43] <sredna> jende: That is about what I am doing :)
[11:43] <jende> sredna: *g*
[11:43] <sredna> Hm, that installs kexi :o
[11:44] <dude_> jende: when im connecting to the IP address, it authenticate then "Connection failed. The server does not accept new connections."
[11:44] <sredna> Another app that I have never been able to convince to do anything useful
[11:44] <cpk2> Zaire: maybe you want to try phpmyadmin
[11:44] <jende> dude_: is the other box a kubuntu as well
[11:45] <Zaire> I couldn't even login with it
[11:45] <jende> sredna: I haven't even used it yet
[11:45] <dude_> jende: xp
[11:45] <sredna> Next question: Is there a way to remove old kernels easily?
[11:45] <jende> dude_: puuuh...dunno much about xp; what client are you running on the xp machine?
[11:45] <jende> sredna: yep
[11:46] <cpk2> Zaire: well you probably could now that you have correctly set up an admin account
[11:46] <dude_> remote desktop
[11:46] <sredna> jende: And that is?
[11:46] <dude_> jende: remote desktop
[11:46] <cpk2> Zaire: its worth noting that I dont even have a root account
[11:46] <Zaire> phpMyAdmin - Error
[11:46] <Zaire> Cannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration. - Documentation
[11:46] <jende> sredna: I'll post you a link
[11:46] <sredna> I have 6 kernels, and I only use one!
[11:46] <cpk2> i have one with root priviledges though
[11:47] <jende> dude_: is the firewall enabled on the xp box?
[11:47] <morghanphoenix> Hmm, acidrip installed and seems to be working great.
[11:47] <cpk2> well then you should probably check the php config =P
[11:47] <dude_> jende: i'll check
[11:48] <jende> sredna: I have it, but only in german
[11:48] <Zaire> if you mean the ini file....I uncommented msql.so extension and thats all
[11:48] <omar> help please
[11:48] <omar> I cant access my USB stick
[11:48] <sredna> German is ok, I can read it
[11:48] <omar> on Kubuntu
[11:48] <omar> I insert it on my usb
[11:48] <omar> and it seems to be detected
[11:49] <omar> Kubuntu shows the "what do you want to do" window
[11:49] <omar> and give me 2 options:  "open in new window" and "do nothing"
[11:49] <jende> sredna: hold on though
[11:49] <omar> I choose to open in new window
[11:49] <omar> but nothing happens
[11:49] <omar> and I cant find the usb in the /media folder
[11:49] <omar> can anyone help me??
[11:50] <roconnor> is anything in the /media folder?
[11:50] <omar> no
[11:50] <omar> well yes
[11:50] <omar> my 2 windows disks are there
[11:50] <omar> and the CDROM
[11:50] <omar> but not the usb thing
[11:50] <omar> cdrom hda5 and hda6 (2 ntfs partitions)
[11:51] <jende> sredna: http://www.unixboard.de/vb3/showthread.php?t=20190
[11:51] <roconnor> at the command line, does cat /proc/mounts list any sda devices?
[11:51] <sredna> Thank you, jende
[11:51] <jende> sredna: you're welcome
[11:52] <jende> sredna: if that dooesn't help/guide you let me know
[11:52] <omar> no, no sda in /proc/mount
[11:52] <roconnor> hmm
[11:52] <jende> omar: post us your fstab
[11:52] <Zaire> Ive even tried purging packages and reinstalling them
[11:52] <jende> omar: basically pastebin it, I meant
[11:52] <omar> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[11:52] <omar> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[11:52] <omar> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:52] <omar> /dev/hda6       /media/hda6     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:52] <omar> /dev/hda7       none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:52] <omar> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:52] <cpk2> i cant even see mysql.so in php.ini
[11:53] <omar> but this usb is a flash usb memory
[11:53] <Zaire> line 556
[11:53] <omar> I dont have to insert it before starting my machine no?
[11:53] <dude_> jende: firewall is disabled
[11:53] <jende> omar: modify your fstab
[11:53] <jende> dude_: hmmm...
[11:53] <omar> with?
[11:53] <cpk2> its commented out in my ini
[11:53] <jende> omar: the editor vi, i.e
[11:54] <omar> jajja
[11:54] <omar> yeah
[11:54] <omar> I meant
[11:54] <Zaire> then why is this giving me such a hard time :S
[11:54] <omar> with what info
[11:54] <omar> :)
[11:54] <roconnor> omar: if you check the end of /var/log/messages is there anything like ``scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices''?
[11:54] <dude_> jende: i can remote desktop using TSC
[11:54] <omar> yep
[11:54] <omar> scsi3: scsi emulation for usb mass storage devices
[11:55] <jende> omar: do you understand german?
[11:55] <omar> scsi device sda: 1019617 blah blah hdwr sectors (522 MB)
[11:55] <roconnor> omar: inspect the messages around there.  there should be a ``sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda''
[11:55] <omar> nein Ich sprache kein deustche
[11:55] <roconnor> or something like that.
[11:56] <omar> :P
[11:56] <jende> omar: http://linuxer.onlinehome.de/apps/usb.htm
[11:56] <omar> sd:3:0:0:0 attached scsi removable  disk sda
[11:56] <omar> i dont understand german
[11:56] <omar> I took 1 year but
[11:56] <omar> I am really bad :(
[11:56] <omar> pero hablo espaol :)
[11:57] <jende> omar: and that is also a nice howto http://www.clemens-kraus.de/linux/usb-stick-unter-linux.htm
[11:57] <roconnor> omar, and make sure there is no USB disconnect messages afterwards.
[11:57] <jende> omar: ask google
[11:57] <Zaire> problem seems to be phpbb2 recognising the DB despite the fact of installing php5-mysqli
[11:57] <jende> omar: and you'll get probably heaps of howtos in spanish
[11:57] <cpk2> hrmm well i never tried with mysqli
[11:57] <jende> omar: on how to set up your system for such devices
[11:57] <cpk2> just mysql
[11:57] <cpk2> dunno how different lite is
[11:57] <roconnor> Of course, omar is right, usb sticks ought to be plug and play under kubuntu.
[11:58] <roconnor> I mean they are.
[11:58] <omar> so they are not plug and play?
[11:58] <Zaire> php5-mysql was replaced with php5-mysqli
[11:58] <jende> roconnor: depends on the chipset
[11:58] <omar> because it gets recognized and all
[11:58] <roconnor> jende: it does!
[11:59] <roconnor> omar, okay, next do you have /dev/sda and/or /dev/sda1
[11:59] <roconnor> or /dev/sda0
[11:59] <jende> roconnor: I had with some lowbudget usb-stix nice dramas
[11:59] <omar> yes sda
[11:59] <omar> no /dev/sda0
[11:59] <nulix> I cannot write on my USB key after automatic installation ; only root can write ; what is wrong ?
[11:59] <omar> ha
[11:59] <omar> lots of usb keys problems :(
[11:59] <morghanphoenix> Sorry 'bout all the frustrations, guess OGM wasn't meant to be, but acidrip is working perfectly and in .avi so I can play it anywhere.
[12:00] <nulix> I do not want to add a line in fstab of course !
[12:00] <roconnor> omar, lets start with some testing here.  make a directory: /tmp/sda
[12:00] <omar> so the sda is my usb no?
[12:00] <omar> ok
[12:00] <omar> mkdir /tmp/sda
[12:01] <roconnor> and then try mount -t auto /dev/sda /tmp/sda
[12:01] <omar> woo
[12:01] <omar> I mount it
[12:01] <omar> i did it
[12:01] <roconnor> :)
[12:01] <jende> folks, see ya later!
[12:01] <omar> mounted it
[12:01] <omar> and it worked,
[12:01] <roconnor> well, that is half good
[12:01] <kinema> Is there any chance of there being a better/faster way to download a (k)ubuntu iso besides directly via HTTP or using torrent.ubuntu.com?  Currently I'm looking at more the a two hour wait seen as I the seeds can't seem to muster more then ~80kB/s.
[12:01] <omar> yep, i gotta add that to fstab?
[12:01] <roconnor> the real question is, why didn't this happen automagically
[12:01] <omar> yep
[12:01] <omar> thats what I thought
[12:01] <omar> i mounted it as root
[12:01] <morghanphoenix> automagically, I like that
[12:01] <omar> ill tryu to do it as normal
[12:01] <roconnor> omar, kubuntu normally will mount it in /media/sda
[12:02] <omar> I try to do it without SUDO and it tells me that ONLY ROOT CAN DO THAT
[12:02] <nulix> roconnor: I can write only in root mode
[12:02] <roconnor> omar, that is the case.
[12:02] <Zaire> mysql admin doesn't seem to work either
[12:02] <roconnor> with this test
[12:02] <morghanphoenix> Hmm, kubuntu seems to mount mine randomly unless I write it in to fstab, then it tries to mount my ipod as my hard drive.
[12:03] <momal> Can anyone recommend to me a good program that I can see what speed programs are using (eg copying from the net) and able to restrict to how much speed it can use (similar program on windows would be Du super Controler)
[12:03] <roconnor> omar, so this is something that will allow you to work in a sort of emergency way.
[12:03] <roconnor> don't forget to do umount /tmp/mnt before you remove the device
[12:03] <omar> but cant I add the line in the fstab ?
[12:03] <roconnor> omar, you could
[12:03] <roconnor> it would be more flexable
[12:04] <roconnor> and you probably can get it so that users can mount it too.
[12:04] <omar> can you tell me what to add?
[12:04] <omar> is it /dev/sda  /dev/usbdrive auto ????
[12:04] <omar> I dont know what to put in ????
[12:04] <Tziu_Riky> hello people
[12:05] <nulix> roconnor: normally we do not use fstab for automatic USB plugging !
[12:05] <Tziu_Riky> ay
[12:05] <roconnor> nulix: I agree, but when it doesn't happen automatically ...
[12:05] <omar> if it is fat
[12:05] <omar> what do I put?
[12:05] <omar> vfat?
[12:06] <nulix> in my case my key is automaticlly installed the only problem is that I cannot write on it only root can
[12:06] <roconnor> omar: I can give you my suggestion, but others may disagree with me and have better ideas.
[12:06] <omar> just give me your suggestion
[12:06] <omar> man you are the one helping me
[12:06] <omar> :)
[12:06] <roconnor> omar, make a directory /mnt/usbstick
[12:06] <omar> yep
[12:06] <omar> done
[12:07] <nulix> I think it might have to do with setting in file /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf
[12:07] <roconnor> err, umount the /tmp/sda
[12:07] <roconnor> we are done with that test
[12:07] <omar> yep
[12:07] <omar> done
[12:07] <roconnor> okay. lemme check my fstab
[12:07] <omar> i preffer /media/usbdrive
[12:07] <omar> just to have all the disks in the same dir
[12:08] <roconnor> okay, media/usbdrive is fine
[12:08] <omar> done
[12:08] <omar> now Im in i
[12:08] <omar> vi
[12:08] <omar> fstab
[12:08] <omar> i added this: "/dev/sda     /media/usbdrive
[12:08] <omar> but then in "options" and dump and pass dont know what to add
[12:08] <roconnor> try /dev/sda        /media/usbdrive              auto     defaults,user,noauto,sync  0       0
[12:08] <roconnor> for your fstab
[12:08] <roconnor> I think that may work well
[12:09] <omar> ok
[12:09] <omar> now I have to disconnect & connect again on?
[12:09] <roconnor> then try mount /media/usbdrive
[12:09] <roconnor> bear in mind that this configureation will NOT work for all usbsticks.
[12:09] <omar> ok one
[12:09] <omar> but hey
[12:09] <omar> I cant write on it
[12:10] <omar> (it is not write protected from the hardware)
[12:10] <roconnor> can you write with sudo?
[12:10] <omar> yep
[12:10] <omar> mmm no
[12:10] <omar> sorry
[12:10] <omar> I cant
[12:11] <omar> sorry, no I cant write with sudo
[12:11] <roconnor> hmm
[12:11] <omar> I tried mount it with normal user and touch a file with sudo
[12:11] <omar> and mounting it with sudo and touch a file with sudo
[12:11] <omar> and mounting with sudo and touch a file with user
[12:11] <omar> when I moutn it it tells me:
[12:11] <omar> block deice .../sda is wrte protected , mounting read only
[12:11] <omar> device
[12:11] <omar> but it is not write protected
[12:12] <omar> o fsck
[12:12] <omar> sorry
[12:12] <omar> wait
[12:12] <morghanphoenix> quick question, can I remove gnome without it screwing everything up? I have lots of GTK apps and am worried about screwing up my libs.
[12:12] <omar> bheheehe
[12:12] <omar> its done
[12:12] <omar> you know what happened
[12:12] <omar> ?
[12:12] <omar> when I first inserted it, it WAS write protected (from hardware)
[12:13] <omar> then I mounted and unmounted and all that
[12:13] <omar> and i realized that
[12:13] <omar> so I unprotected
[12:13] <omar> but now, I disconnected it
[12:13] <omar> and connected it again
[12:13] <omar> AAAAND
[12:13] <omar> it showed me the "what do u want to do" screen
[12:13] <omar> and after i selected open
[12:13] <omar> it actually opened it
[12:13] <roconnor> heh
[12:13] <omar> and I could write on it
[12:13] <zorglu_> the suspens is killing me :)
[12:14] <omar> darn
[12:14] <omar> hey roconnor
[12:14] <omar> I own u a beer
[12:14] <roconnor> well, then you can remove that fstab nonsense I guess.
[12:14] <omar> are you close to UK?
[12:14] <omar> mmm
[12:14] <roconnor> I'm in the netherlands.
[12:14] <omar> I dont think so
[12:14] <psb154> zorglu_ lol
[12:14] <morghanphoenix> mmm, beer
[12:14] <omar> it detectd the "usbdrive"
[12:14] <omar> I am guessing it was from the fstab
[12:14] <omar> Ill leave it like that
[12:14] <omar> as it works
[12:14] <omar> oh cool
[12:14] <omar> I am in UK
[12:14] <omar> are u close to Utrecht?
[12:15] <roconnor> I'm not convinced, but there is little harm in keeping the fstab as is.
[12:15] <omar> I went to utrecht  some time ago
[12:15] <omar> it is very cool
[12:15] <roconnor> omar: not really. I'm near Germany.
[12:15] <omar> I went to amsterdam too,
[12:15] <omar> anyway, lets not spam the place, I own you and arkady a beer
[12:15] <morghanphoenix> I like usb devices in fstab, keeps me from getting 6 sdas mounted and only one containing anything.
[12:15] <omar> now Ill copy my music and go to work
[12:16] <Jucato> s/bear/beer
[12:16] <momal> Can anyone recommend to me a good program that I can see what speed programs are using (eg copying from the net) and able to restrict to how much speed it can use (similar program on windows would be Du super Controler)
[12:16] <omar> thanks a lot man
[12:16] <roconnor> Jucato: *l* I thought you were trying to make a joke
[12:16] <omar> if you go to mexico anytime let me know i can help you
[12:16] <omar> im from there
[12:16] <Jucato> well, inadvertedly, I did :)
[12:16] <roconnor> thanks
[12:17] <omar> and I am sure I will return here
[12:17] <omar> I was using kubuntu along with windows
[12:17] <omar> on my laptop
[12:17] <roconnor> omar: but all you need to do in return is help someone else out with a problem (of any sort, not necessarily Kubuntu related)
[12:17] <morghanphoenix> eww, windows.
[12:17] <omar> yeah
[12:18] <morghanphoenix> Too bad games still suck for x
[12:18] <Jucato> morghanphoenix: I'm speaking to you from the dreaded OS of the quad-colored butterfly :P
[12:18] <zorglu_> momal, 'ctrl-esc' will give the speed. as to restrict it, it is much harder, you can use the 'nice' priority or the process accounting
[12:18] <roconnor> omar: actually make that help two people. ... for exponetial grow ;)
[12:18] <omar> but now I just have linux, i installed 1gb of mem and windows told me "Windows can not verify that this copy is genuine"
[12:18] <morghanphoenix> I have a penguin with a flyswatter on my desktop hunting your little bug.
[12:18] <omar> and I could not enter to MY freaking computer
[12:18] <Jucato> lol
[12:18] <omar> so I said wtf
[12:18] <zorglu_> momal: the nice priority are easy to setup but not that flexible as process accounting
[12:18] <omar> and removed the win partition
[12:18] <Vuen_away> man
[12:18] <Vuen_away> i get more and more surprised by kate every day
[12:19] <Vuen_away> i just opened a fortran source code file
[12:19] <morghanphoenix> I love that wallpaper
[12:19] <omar> and now I am running ubuntu 100%
[12:19] <roconnor> silly windows
[12:19] <Vuen_away> and it just magically knows its fortran and does all the syntax highlighting
[12:19] <omar> I run FC4 in my office
[12:19] <momal> zorglu_: I just need something to limit pretty much everything so i don't have to stop downloads/pause each time I wanna play game online
[12:19] <momal> zorglu_: that is easy to use
[12:19] <Jucato> Vuen_away: of course. it's the KDE Advanced Text Editor :)
[12:19] <omar> but I dont have to do administrative tasks so often
[12:19] <omar> anyway
[12:19] <morghanphoenix> My girl wants to switch to linux, but her school is contracted with MS so they have thier students required to use windows.
[12:19] <omar> thanks for the help
[12:19] <roconnor> np
[12:20] <omar> Ill return sometime
[12:20] <Vuen_away> Jucato: is there, like, a plugin or something, to give it vi controls?
[12:20] <morghanphoenix> as in a download manager?
[12:20] <zorglu_> momal: hmm unfortunatly not possible.
[12:20] <roconnor> morghanphoenix: does she get a free copy of windows?
[12:20] <Jucato> Vuen_away: hm... that I don't know. Google? :P
[12:20] <morghanphoenix> Nope, but we got an old 333 with winXP on it from someone.
[12:20] <roconnor> morghanphoenix: well, better than an old 386 with winXP.
[12:21] <morghanphoenix> Will make a good bsd/apache mail/web server once she finishes school.
[12:21] <omar> darn
[12:21] <morghanphoenix> Or maybe I'll talk her into letting me play with it as my slackware toy.
[12:22] <omar> :'(
[12:22] <omar> its slooow
[12:22] <omar> 15:33 mintues remaining to copy 27 MB
[12:22] <morghanphoenix> Nah, my 386 had win3.1
[12:22] <omar> 3 files
[12:22] <esas> i want to set a mysql root password, i read that i must type mysql -u root in a terminal program , i did this but i get an error : ERROR 1045 (28000) Acces denied for user ' root'@'localhost' ( using password : no) !!!!
[12:22] <Vuen_away> Your search - site:http://www.kate-editor.org/ vi - did not match any documents.
[12:22] <morghanphoenix> at least it's not the 8086 with win1.0
[12:22] <Vuen_away> *sniff*
[12:23] <morghanphoenix> that was really fun
[12:23] <morghanphoenix> ended up putting freeDOS on that one.
[12:23] <esas> help someone :-) ?
[12:24] <Jucato> Vuen_away: have you checked the kate-plugins package?
[12:24] <morghanphoenix> !ask
[12:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:24] <zorglu_> esas: mysql has pages and pages about how to setup password. it is like the most common problem :)
[12:24] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: !readthelog :)
[12:24] <morghanphoenix> talk to ubotu, he knows everything!
[12:24] <momal> so its impossible to limit network speed for certain programs/ports?
[12:25] <esas> ok thanks
[12:25] <morghanphoenix> I keep him on a private channel
[12:25] <zorglu_> momal: this is possible thru iptables, not easy tho, and to do it only when you plays some games is even harder
[12:25] <zorglu_> momal: impossible is not fully correct, just not at all trivial
[12:26] <morghanphoenix> so will I be able to dist-upgrade once edgy is released?
[12:26] <momal> zorglu_: damnit >_<
[12:26] <Vuen_away> question, why has the "kvim" project ceased to exist?
[12:26] <morghanphoenix> I'm afeared of having to reinput all my personal info again.
[12:26] <Vuen> i can't find anything about kvim online
[12:27] <Vuen> there are news articles about kvim which all point to 404s
[12:27] <Vuen> the freshmeat page is 404, like the porject never existed
[12:27] <Vuen> s/porject/project
[12:27] <Vuen> what's the deal?
[12:29] <magic> hi a question
[12:29] <magic> why i have 2 drivers devices in xorg.conf??
[12:29] <magic> Section "Monitor"
[12:30] <magic> 	Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0] "
[12:30] <magic> 	Option	    "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
[12:30] <magic> 	Option	    "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
[12:30] <magic> 	Option	    "DPMS" "true"
[12:30] <magic> EndSection
[12:30] <magic> Section "Device"
[12:30] <magic> 	Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
[12:30] <magic> 	Driver      "fglrx"
[12:30] <magic> 	Option	    "UseFBDev" "true"
[12:30] <magic> 	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
[12:30] <magic> EndSection
[12:30] <magic> Section "Device"
[12:30] <magic> 	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[12:31] <magic> 	Driver      "fglrx"
[12:31] <Jucato> magic: please do not flood
[12:31] <Jucato> !pastebin
[12:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:33] <morghanphoenix> cripes, how many channels are there?
[12:33] <magic> sorry not is larger text
[12:33] <magic> sorry you can respond my problem?
[12:34] <morghanphoenix>  /list might not have been such a good idea
[12:39] <morghanphoenix> what's the command to output your graphics setup? I want to know if direct rendering is enabled.
[12:41] <Vuen> oh, wow
[12:41] <Vuen> the guys who did kvim instead forked the whole gvim project
[12:51] <Ash-Fox> !koffice
[12:51] <ubotu> Integrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-151.php
[12:56] <cox377> does anyone know of a command with kubuntu or ubuntu that would test a computer for faults, I.E run tests on all hardware
[01:05] <flaccid_> cox377: don't think such a thing exists but there are memory testers
[01:06] <cox377> Yeh, just looking now for something similar, just it would be a great addon to a live cd to be able to test a computers hardware to know if the problem was hardware depdent
[01:06] <flaccid_> cox377: its not really possible when you think about it
[01:06] <flaccid_> also if it was, it would exist by now
[01:07] <cox377> flaccid_: why would it not be possible?
[01:08] <flaccid_> because of the architecture and many different archs and proprietery archs
[01:08] <flaccid_> for eg. how would you test a video card?
[01:08] <cox377> flaccid_: but surely all it's doing is stress testing each component found one by one.
[01:08] <flaccid_> a lot of the testing would need to be beyond the standard protocol of which the device in question uses
[01:09] <flaccid_> how would you do this stress test to each component
[01:09] <flaccid_> devices only operate in a certain way
[01:09] <flaccid_> if there is not a layer to which diagnostics can be applied, there isn't much you can do
[01:09] <cox377> flaccid: are we talking about the same thing, i'm not sure if i mentioned that this app would be for fault dionostic
[01:10] <flaccid_> yes we on same level
[01:11] <cox377> flaccid_: to tell u the truth i dont know enough about linux and architectures (excuse spelling) but the concept really doesnt sound that complicated.. or am i wrong?
[01:12] <flaccid_> yes you are wrong
[01:12] <flaccid_> and i'm talking about the hardware archs, not linux
[01:12] <cox377> flaccid_: Ok, but surely by stress testing each component if there was a fault it would show up?
[01:13] <Baffy> yo guys
[01:13] <flaccid_> in theory to do the proper testing. i would need a separate program for every model of device
[01:13] <cox377> flaccid_: why so?
[01:13] <flaccid_> i already explained above
[01:13] <flaccid_> software does not talk directly to hardware
[01:14] <flaccid_> that is kind of the short answer
[01:14] <flaccid_> brb
[01:14] <Baffy> guys, does arpspoof works on a web server?
[01:14] <Baffy> *servers
[01:18] <Kim^J> Why is Samba broken in Edgy?
[01:18] <Kim^J> There's no /etc/init.d/samba so I can't do anything with it.
[01:19] <rideout> Kim^J : yes there is
[01:19] <rideout> try to reinstall it
[01:20] <rideout> dpkg -L samba | grep init
[01:23] <tomaz> hey
[01:23] <igor> how i can get the w32...
[01:24] <tomaz> is there a way to set the default behavior in konqueror to show the contents of a folder?
[01:24] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[01:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:24] <Jucato> igor: ^^^^^^
[01:24] <igor> hi
[01:24] <marcus> c un channel en anglais ou ne francais?
[01:24] <Jucato> !fr
[01:24] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:25] <marcus> k
[01:25] <marcus> merci
[01:25] <marcus> en tout cas vraiment bien cette version de linux. vivie kubuntu
[01:27] <marcus> quelqu'un a reussi a faire marcher beryl. moi je n'arrive pas sans doute a cause de ma carte video nvidia 7500 le
[01:28] <Jucato> marcus: /join #kubuntu-fr
[01:28] <marcus> k
[01:30] <tomaz> is there a way to set the default behavior in konqueror to show the contents of a folder?
[01:30] <|lostbyte|> tomaz, In preferences.
[01:30] <tomaz> i cant find it in preferences.
[01:31] <|lostbyte|> tomaz, configure konqueror
[01:31] <|lostbyte|> tomaz, home url : ~/
[01:31] <guy_> bonjour
[01:31] <|lostbyte|> guy_, Salam.
[01:32] <guy_> pour aller sur kubuntu edgy comment faire merci
[01:32] <|lostbyte|> guy_, What language is this ?
[01:32] <tomaz> !fr
[01:32] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:32] <Jucato> !fr
[01:32] <|lostbyte|> :)
[01:32] <Jucato> :P
[01:32] <tomaz> merci is french i guess.
[01:32] <guy_> ok merci
[01:33] <|lostbyte|> Yup.
[01:33] <tomaz> |lostbyte|, i mean, when I open konqueror it shows the icons in tree mode, when i click in one folder it switch to deitaled view mode
[01:33] <tomaz> and i wish to always be icons mode
[01:35] <tomaz> hullo?
[01:35] <|lostbyte|> tomaz, view > view mode, and then settings > save view profile
[01:36] <Martyo> is there a package for the ms web core fonts?
[01:36] <|lostbyte|> !msfonts
[01:36] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:39] <tomaz> arr =*
[01:39] <tomaz> tanks
[01:39] <tomaz> you nearly saved my life
[01:39] <|lostbyte|> np ;)
[01:40] <genus5> how do you add users to mysql?
[01:40] <cpk2> o.o a directory that takes over a minute to remove...
[01:41] <flaccid_> genus5: i'd suggest using phpmyadmin, otherwise learn mysql :)
[01:42] <cpk2> heh, genus5 you already in mysql as root?
[01:42] <|lostbyte|> !phpmyadmin > genus5
[01:42] <genus5> yes
[01:43] <cpk2> you dont need phpmyadmin to add a user, maybe all he wants to do is get phpbb2 running
[01:43] <genus5> yeps
[01:43] <flaccid_> cpk2: i wouldn't recommend running web applications under the root mysql user
[01:43] <genus5> well Im trying 3 at the moment but same issue
[01:43] <cpk2> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword' WITH GRANT OPTION; makes a root user
[01:43] <cpk2> and...
[01:43] <genus5> I kinda figured as much so would like to create a norm db account
[01:44] <genus5> I tried that and its like it doesn't want me to login
[01:44] <cpk2> GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE, DROP, INDEX, ALTER, CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES, LOCK TABLES ON database1.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword';
[01:44] <cpk2> will make a "normal" user
[01:45] <cpk2> you login by doing mysql -u username -p
[01:45] <flaccid_> genus5: examples from cpk2 are the sql, you need to login by client in CLI or use another interface like phpmyadmin
[01:46] <flaccid_> sql is fun until you have to write long queries
[01:46] <cpk2> hehe
[01:47] <Zaire> lol
[01:47] <flaccid_> but thats what makes a good dbadmin
[01:47] <flaccid_> that kind of thinking is hectic
[01:47] <flaccid_> its low level-high level
[01:48] <Zaire> yes it works
[01:48] <flaccid_> i can only go so far
[01:48] <cpk2> yeah database management in premise is simple
[01:48] <flaccid_> database design is not
[01:48] <flaccid_> *and*
[01:48] <cpk2> but once you start having huge databases...
[01:48] <flaccid_> yeah the relationships are massive
[01:49] <flaccid_> i can't think that far in
[01:49] <Zaire> thank you so much now I have satisfied my obsessive compulsive anal rententive need to get phpbb2 installed lol
[01:49] <flaccid_> then there is OODBMS , omg
[01:49] <flaccid_> Zaire: you should convert to SMF
[01:49] <flaccid_> phpbb is old and yeah a tool
[01:49] <cpk2> smf?
[01:50] <flaccid_> simple machines forum
[01:50] <flaccid_> !find smf
[01:50] <Zaire> thanks though none the less lol
[01:50] <ubotu> File smf found in openoffice.org-qa-ui-tests
[01:50] <flaccid_> np Zaire
[01:51] <flaccid_> ubotu: thats not it ah well
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thats not it ah well - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <Zaire> Ive been trying to get a forum for a month lol
[01:51] <flaccid_> Zaire: now you can get a better forum
[01:52] <Zaire> how do you tell if your running ssl?
[01:53] <flaccid> the quick way Zaire is https://localhost/
[01:53] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, nmap localhost -p 22
[01:53] <Zaire> could not connect to localhost
[01:54] <flaccid> Zaire: well you know if its running, its not working
[01:54] <flaccid> to do what |lostbyte| said, you might need to install the package nmap
[01:54] <flaccid> !nmap
[01:54] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.03-3 (dapper), package size 688 kB, installed size 2380 kB
[01:55] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, or you could try loading sftp://localhost/ from konqueror.
[01:55] <flaccid> whats performance like TLS on FTP, |lostbyte|?
[01:56] <Zaire> it let me login
[01:56] <|lostbyte|> Thats shows its running.
[01:56] <flaccid> Zaire: perhaps you don't have ssl set up for apache?
[01:57] <|lostbyte|> yeah..
[01:57] <Zaire> how would that be done
[01:58] <Zaire> well I gtg i'll get into ssl with apache later
[01:59] <flaccid> ok
[01:59] <Zaire> thanks again though laters
[01:59] <flaccid> cia0
[02:01] <trym|work> My keymap is wrong.. and when I go to keyboard layout in kde control center, no layouts are there
[02:02] <cpk2> trym|work: probably because you want to be in regional & accessability in system settings
[02:02] <igor> hey guys...i use kubuntu...but my pc is no very good...i have 256MbRAM...i'd like to know if ubuntu...using gnome...is better than kde...
[02:02] <trym|work> cpk2: Im there?
[02:02] <emonkey-p> igor, in this case try xubuntu
[02:03] <cpk2> igor: no, you wont see a performance increase
[02:03] <igor> umm
[02:03] <igor> ok
[02:04] <igor> but...the only difference is really the interface?
[02:04] <trym|work> cpk2: I didnt quite get what you meant?
[02:04] <cpk2> igor: you would want something like fluxbox
[02:05] <cpk2> trym|work: i thought you were in the peripherals directory =X
[02:05] <trym|work> cpk2: ah no
[02:06] <cpk2> trym|work: try installing keyboards-rg maybe
[02:06] <trym|work> cpk2: already have it
[02:09] <M_A_K> Ever since I formatted my HD and installed Kubuntu, when I empty the trash, the progress dialog stays at 0%.  If I close the dialog box later on, the trash is empty, but progress stays at 0.
[02:09] <cpk2> xkeyboard-config and xkbutils maybe?
[02:10] <cpk2> kinda just guessing =P
[02:10] <M_A_K> cpk2 : are these comand line utils?
[02:11] <M_A_K> command not found
[02:12] <cpk2> M_A_K: i was talking to trym|work =P
[02:13] <trym|work> cpk2: just a sec
[02:14] <trym|work> both are installed
[02:14] <cpk2> trym|work: hrmm, I wonder where kde pulls this from... I dont even have keyboards-rg and I have tons of choices
[02:15] <trym|work> i would imagine from /etc/X11/xkb
[02:15] <trym|work> but theres lots of shit there
[02:15] <crene> i am sorry but i have a question about adept,
[02:16] <crene> how is it possible to recover a working adept after crash loading sunjava.jre
[02:19] <cpk2> well it looks like it might pull it from /etc/X11/xkb/rules/base
[02:20] <cpk2> and base.lst
[02:22] <gingillo> Hi, this chat as always helped me, i hope you will do the same today: i have a problem: On boot grub gives me the error 18 (i Have win on the main partition). Can you help me?
[02:23] <felix_e> riddell: would you mind updating the koffice-latest and koffice-stable symlinks? thanks.
[02:29] <_alex> Hi ! I m looking for a gui to control speed of fans. Does anybody know such a tool ?
[02:30] <flaccid> !apm
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <flaccid> !acpi
[02:31] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[02:32] <gingillo> !grub
[02:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:33] <arkady> gingillo: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[02:35] <gingillo> arkady: sorry, but im a real noob, can you explain me what can i do?
[02:37] <arkady> gingillo: never had that error.. i've used google
[02:38] <larson9999> Hawkwind: that swift thingie is holding up well.
[02:39] <dennister> g'morning all
[02:40] <dennister> it's garbage day here and, appropriately, i'm having a wee bit of trouble with the ubuntu trash, too :)
[02:40] <dennister> *kubuntu trash
[02:42] <dennister> no matter what I do, i get an error message saying it can't create the folder
[02:42] <gingillo> i have installed kubuntu in a wrong partition thath i would use for swap, lol. Is it possibile to move it on another partition, or i have to reinstall kubuntu?
[02:42] <dennister> can anyone help me? I've already tried making the folders it mentions as root
[02:45] <dennister> gingillo: if u've just installed it, it probably wouldn't take a lot of time to reinstall it
[02:45] <gingillo> dennister: ok :P
[02:45] <dennister> anyone else awake in here?
[02:46] <dennister> it's awfully quiet...unlike the usual
[02:47] <dennister> flaccid:
[02:47] <dennister> ?
[02:47] <dennister> hi jaaroo
[02:49] <dennister> !Trash
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <dennister> !trash
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <dennister> harmental: hi there
[02:53] <ghost> hello, i just reinstalled kubuntu over the gentoo install i had as a dual boot with vista and now i can't boot into windows
[02:53] <ghost> is there a file i need to edit?
[02:54] <dennister> ghost: sorry, i have no idea, and it's awfully quiet in here today
[02:54] <Smooph> ghost: you should add some information like why you cannot boot and what you did
[02:55] <dennister> hey! someone's awake :)
[02:55] <ghost> smooph: ok here's the backstory, i had kubuntu installed before, then i made a dual boot with xp, then i replaced xp with vista and replaced kubuntu with gentoo
[02:56] <Smooph> awake ... are you kidding I am almost ready to take a nap dennister :-)
[02:56] <dennister> would you know why i can't get this trash applet working?
[02:56] <dennister> it's early in the am here in to...9 o'clock
[02:56] <ghost> i found gentoo too difficult for my early stage of linux development so i put kubuntu back on that partition. note that i was able to choose between gentoo and vista before doing so
[02:56] <Smooph> ghost: you installed vista first and after that kubuntu ?
[02:56] <ghost> yes
[02:57] <Smooph> did you(kubuntu) install grub or lilo ?
[02:58] <ghost> yes, kubuntu installed grub, i get the option of pressing ESC on boot to load a menu, but all i get to choose from are 4 kubuntu boots and a memtest
[02:58] <ghost> when i had grub on gentoo it gave me gentoo and windows p1 and windows p7
[02:59] <Smooph> ok I am not 100% sure about vista but with win XP its not a problem just add windows to the grub menu
[02:59] <Smooph> 1 second I look for mine
[03:00] <ghost> grub let me choose vista with the other distro i was using, so i figured it would under kubuntu as well
[03:00] <Smooph> it should
[03:00] <flaccid> ghost: have you tried sudo update-grub
[03:01] <dennister> hey flaccid :)
[03:01] <ghost> i had to give up on gentoo for now, i need to wait til i have another pc next to this one with help sites and support chans open....couldn't even boot into a gui. Kubuntu worked flawlessly for me before for everything except java
[03:01] <ghost> nope, will try that flaccid
[03:01] <dennister> flaccid: could u help me with my trash pls? :)
[03:02] <ghost> looks like it only found .27 and .23 and memtest again
[03:02] <flaccid> dennister: sorry never played with trash
[03:02] <malcolm> I've got a problem playing avi files on kubuntu, i checked ad xine is installed.  the error kaffeine is giving me is: A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: divxc32.dll
[03:02] <Smooph> ghost: try adding the following in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:03] <ghost> malcolm: you have multiverse repositories enabled?
[03:03] <dennister> hmmm can't find anything on fixing this applet, or the probs in konq when i try to send things to trash
[03:03] <Smooph> title Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[03:03] <Smooph> root (hd0,0)
[03:03] <Smooph> savedefault
[03:03] <Smooph> makeactive
[03:03] <Smooph> chainloader +1
[03:03] <dennister> error messages keep telling me they can't make certain folders, and when I do as root, i still get the same error messages
[03:03] <ghost> ok, so i just open that file in Kate?
[03:04] <Smooph> yes
[03:04] <flaccid> dennister: what is the error msg?
[03:04] <Smooph> but root rights
[03:04] <malcolm> i just enabled the multiverse repositories
[03:05] <Smooph> ghost: put those lines at the end
[03:05] <Smooph> of the file
[03:05] <Smooph> did you do that ?
[03:06] <dennister> k, when i try to send a file to trash, using konq, I get: Could not make folder /home/username/.local/share/Trash.
[03:06] <malcolm> why can't i play avi files?
[03:06] <ghost> did that and when i try to save it says access denied
[03:06] <monad> hi... i have a problem starting sshd on a machine at work. works fine when i want to ssh from that machine to another, but i can't get into it from outside
[03:06] <Smooph> yes you have to start kate with root
[03:06] <monad> normally /etc/init.d/sshd start does the job and creates keys
[03:07] <arkady> malcolm: try to install w32codecs
[03:07] <ghost> i'm logged in as the only user, i should have admin/root access
[03:07] <dennister> so, as root, I made Trash in the path above...then error message said the same thing, only adding another directory: info
[03:07] <ghost> do i have to launch kate from Konsole using sudo?
[03:07] <arkady> !w32codecs > malcolm
[03:07] <flaccid> dennister: pastebin ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash
[03:07] <Smooph> ghost: close kate without saving .... press Alt+F2 and type "kate" and options user "root" + password
[03:08] <dennister> !pastebin
[03:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:09] <Smooph> ghost: you know what I mean ?
[03:09] <ghost> k, done, so try rebooting now? oh, and that line for the root (hd0,0) is that specific to what partition it's on?
[03:09] <Smooph> wait
[03:09] <Smooph> not yet
[03:10] <Smooph> this is the part you might have to change
[03:10] <Smooph> which partition is your vista on
[03:10] <Smooph> by the way you can change the title to Windows Vista
[03:10] <ghost> sda1
[03:10] <ghost> heh, already did
[03:11] <dennister> flaccid: k, it's in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27089/
[03:11] <Smooph> ghost: do you have one harddrive ?
[03:11] <ghost> yes, one drive with 3 partitions + a swap partition
[03:11] <ghost> linux/vista/data
[03:12] <Smooph> k is windows first second or third ?
[03:12] <Smooph> k than change the second 0 to 1
[03:12] <ghost> under konqueror file manager it shows second
[03:12] <ghost> now that might be sorted to it's own preference
[03:13] <Smooph> ok than change "root (hd0,0)" to "root (hd0,1)"
[03:13] <ghost> k
[03:13] <Smooph> save and reboot ... let me know if it works
[03:14] <danny500> does anyone know the hot-keys to switch between workspaces?
[03:14] <danny500> for ubuntu
[03:14] <ghost> in my menu.lst all the linux boots are listed as (hd0,4)
[03:14] <Smooph> Strg+[number of workspace] 
[03:14] <malcolm> i can't install the libxine-extracodecs, it's not there
[03:14] <danny500> ?
[03:14] <dennister> flaccid: u still here?
[03:14] <danny500> I have 4 workspaces
[03:15] <ghost> okies, will try that, thanks for the help
[03:15] <Jucato> !repositories
[03:15] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:15] <Jucato> malcolm: ^^^^
[03:15] <Jucato> malcolm: read that link above to enable "multiverse"
[03:15] <danny500> what is Strg?
[03:15] <dennister> k if flaccid comes back, tell him i had to go, K?
[03:15] <danny500> k
[03:15] <dennister> I'll fix it later
[03:17] <malcolm> i've already eabled the multiverse repositories and i still can't see libxine-extracodecs
[03:17] <flaccid> dennister: cia0
[03:17] <flaccid> oops
[03:18] <Jucato> malcolm: are you sure you enabled/added the correct one? you should have a line that looks like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"
[03:19] <ghost> no luck
[03:19] <ghost> Filesystem type unknown. Error12: Invalid Device Requested
[03:19] <ghost> possibly the wrong hd number?
[03:19] <malcolm> there's no such line in there
[03:20] <ghost> doh, there goes my assistance
[03:20] <redmonkey> i want to upgrade my kubuntu system but without installing or upgrading the kernel. but how?
[03:21] <Smooph> ghost: sry laptop bat died
[03:21] <ghost> np
[03:21] <Smooph> didn't get the part with you other partitions
[03:21] <ghost> Filesystem type unknown. Error12: Invalid Device Requested
[03:21] <ghost> possibly the wrong hd number?
[03:22] <Smooph> is that the message you get when trying to boot the windows vista ?
[03:22] <ghost> that's the message i get when i select windows from the grub menu
[03:22] <arkady> malcolm: paste your sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:23] <Smooph> yes I think thats it
[03:23] <igor> anybody knows a good program to record cds in linux?
[03:24] <malcolm> where's the sources.list?
[03:24] <Smooph> because I don't know what partition vista is on I my advice would be trial and error try the partitons one after another
[03:24] <arkady> igor: k3b
[03:24] <ghost> ok
[03:24] <ghost> trying to see if i can find that info in kubuntu here somewhere
[03:24] <arkady> malcolm: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:24] <Smooph> malcolm: /etc/apt/so..
[03:24] <Jucato> lol
[03:24] <Jucato> Smooph didn't get to finish the line :P
[03:25] <Smooph> ^^
[03:25] <Smooph> ghost: open a console
[03:25] <igor> arkady: but this on records only cds?
[03:25] <ghost> k
[03:25] <igor> musics...
[03:25] <Smooph> and type df
[03:26] <olof> anyone using ktorrent?
[03:26] <Smooph> this should show all your devices
[03:26] <ghost> i see this for my 20gb vista partition: /dev/sda1             20972824  12173056   8799768  59% /media/sda1
[03:26] <arkady> igor: it's a burning program
[03:26] <malcolm> i pasted sources.list there, now what?
[03:27] <arkady> malcom: we need the link ;)
[03:27] <olof> for ktorrent: why does it have status: stopped when i press stop and then start again?
[03:27] <malcolm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27091/
[03:28] <Jucato> malcolm: you don't have any multiverse enabled
[03:28] <Smooph> ok ghost try (0,0)
[03:28] <arkady> malcolm: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[03:29] <malcolm> i enabled eveything that wasn't a comment
[03:29] <ghost> k, trying
[03:29] <supernova_> I am not able to write any file to my usb hdd. how to change permission so that i can write into it?
[03:29] <arkady> malcolm: write the word multiverse after the word universe
[03:30] <Jucato> malcolm: the link I pointed to earlier gives instructions on waht to do. but you could follow arkady's instructions since you already have sources.list opened :)
[03:30] <arkady> malcolm: then save file, then sudo apt-get update :)
[03:31] <Smooph> you can also just open adept and change the repositories there in the menu
[03:31] <Smooph> but that might be too easy
[03:32] <Jucato> too easy? for who? :P
[03:32] <arkady> Smooph: for me changing repositories in adept it's a little buggy
[03:33] <Smooph> ok
[03:34] <supernova_>  I am not able to write any file to my usb hdd. how to change permission so that i can write into it? pls help
[03:35] <ghost> Smooph: that seemed to work
[03:35] <Smooph> Alright
[03:35] <ghost> still got a brief flash of a Filesystem unknown error, but it let me boot into vista
[03:36] <amayera> hi
[03:36] <Smooph> gz
[03:36] <ghost> thanks for your help :)
[03:36] <test2> hello everyone
[03:36] <ghost> have a good day folks
[03:37] <Smooph> Np
[03:37] <amayera> I just installed edgy eft beta. but after I used my old /home-dir I have the following problem: as soon as I delete my old ~/.local I loose all entries in the menu. how can I get the ones which are there by default?
[03:37] <morghanphoenix> anyone know an application to transcode ogg movies to avis?
[03:37] <Jucato> amayera: have you tried restart KDE? (logout and login again?)
[03:38] <amayera> Jucato: I used ctrl + alt + backspace several times. is this the same?
[03:38] <_alex> Is there a gui to manage speed fan ?
[03:38] <Jucato> hm... I guess so
[03:39] <amayera> well, I will give it a try to log out and in. cu soon
[03:39] <_alex> Can not find a manager in the repositories ...
[03:40] <dhq> how do i create a new user from shell
[03:40] <arkady> dhq: adduser
[03:41] <Smooph> !adduser
[03:41] <ubotu> adduser: Add and remove users and groups. In component main, is important. Version 3.80ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 796 kB
[03:41] <Smooph> da gibts immer ne readme oder n man zu
[03:42] <amayera> well, no that didn't do the trick.
[03:42] <amayera> anybody else an idea?
[03:42] <Jucato> :(
[03:42] <gingillo> hi, can you help me to mount my 2 disks with windows?
[03:43] <amayera> I am really wondering what it can be that doesn't let kde recreate the menu, as the .local file in a fresh /home is empty and I even use a fresh .kde
[03:43] <dhq> i am in shell account of my server
[03:43] <amayera> gingillo: what filesystem does your windows use?
[03:44] <amayera> gingillo: and do you want to mount windows filesystems from linux or vice versa?
[03:44] <gingillo> amayera: i have 2 disks (one partitioned with win and linux and another with only win) All 2 partitions are NTFS. I want to see my windows files in linux
[03:44] <Jucato> amayera: probably the needed directory structer? like ~/.local/foo ?
[03:45] <amayera> Jucato: there is a structure created after a relogin. but thats all. Trash is created in there.
[03:46] <amayera> I mean I could use my old debian menu, but that is not that beautiful.
[03:46] <Jucato> hm.. I'm clueless then... :(
[03:46] <amayera> gingillo: oh, ntfs. I don't know how far support for ntfs is in linux nowadays. the last time I used it it was supported readonly.
[03:47] <Jucato> !ntfs
[03:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:47] <Smooph> !ntfsprogs
[03:47] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (dapper), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB
[03:47] <gingillo> thanks you :)
[03:47] <Smooph> gingillo: thats what you need
[03:47] <Smooph> !ntfsprogs
[03:48] <amayera> which program is the one I use to send the developers my hardware config?
[03:48] <gingillo> so must i use the guide of jucato or ntfsprogs?
[03:48] <Smooph> both
[03:49] <Jucato> :)
[03:50] <amayera> oh, my /home is encrypted with dm-crypt but that should be no problem at all, or?
[03:52] <gingillo> it works! thanks you all :)
[03:52] <fulat2k> hi folks, how can i enable mp3 ripping in kaffeine?
[03:53] <jende> Hi Folks!
[03:53] <Mortice> !mp3 > fulat2k
[03:53] <Smooph> !mp3
[03:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:54] <jende> DjDarkman_: Hi Mr dj
[03:54] <DjDarkman_> hi jende :)
[03:54] <jende> DjDarkman_: How are ya?
[03:55] <jende> cpk2: wow, you're still here and awake...*g*
[03:55] <DjDarkman_> I`m fine thank you ,and how are you?
[03:55] <jende> DjDarkman_: not to bad either, sun is shining and I'm in the office as usual
[03:56] <DjDarkman_> yeah sun is shining here too ,but it`s cold outside
[03:56] <jende> DjDarkman_: it's quite warm here - I should have bought me a covertible instead a van
[03:56] <jende> Jucato: poor bugger
[03:56] <DjDarkman_> jende: what do you do in the office?
[03:57] <Jucato> hehe. jende it's 8:30pm here. I'd be damned if I saw the sun right now :P
[03:57] <jende> DjDarkman_: I'm a freelancer and I take care of some networks
[03:58] <DjDarkman_> ohhh I see ,and do you work for cannonical ,or you`re just here to help?
[03:58] <jende> Jucato: here it's just 4pm, so a bit to go til the night will come
[03:58] <jende> DjDarkman_: just here to help
[03:59] <kumsy> anyone here to help. how can i install realplayer?
[03:59] <jende> !realplayer
[03:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:59] <Jucato> kumsy: if you follow that link to the RestrictedFormats page and install the codecs, you can use Kaffeine to play .rmvb files
[04:00] <jende> kumsy: or download the latest deb-package from the reaalplayer site, which will be installed like: sudo dpkg -i <filename>
[04:00] <Jucato> !info realplayer
[04:00] <ubotu> realplayer: Real Player (installer). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:00] <Jucato> actually it's available in our repositories too :)
[04:00] <Jucato> and also in dapper-commercial
[04:01] <jende> Jucato: but the deb file on the realplayer site, as much as I know, is newer than the one we have in our repos
[04:01] <kumsy> jucato: thanks. but in our repos, it says that xlibs package requred for real player is not available
[04:02] <Jucato> jende: probably. I'm just not sure about dependencies
[04:02] <kumsy> jende: is there any deb package available in real`s site
[04:02] <Jucato> !info xlib
[04:02] <ubotu> Package xlib does not exist in any distro I know
[04:02] <jende> kumsy: yes, there is
[04:02] <kumsy> !info xlibs
[04:02] <ubotu> Package xlibs does not exist in any distro I know
[04:02] <Jucato> I thnk xlibs is renamed differently in Ubuntu
[04:02] <jende> kumsy: does it say just xlib?
[04:02] <Jucato> kumsy: do you have both universe and multiverse enabled
[04:03] <sYnie> hey there
[04:03] <kumsy> jucato: i checked adept. when i tried to install real player, it said BROKEN (INSTALL) in red colour
[04:04] <rideout> !libx11-6
[04:04] <ubotu> libx11-6: X11 client-side library. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 693 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[04:04] <kumsy> jucato: when i checked the details, it said xlibs  is not available(greyed out)
[04:04] <rideout> libx11-6 is the xlib package
[04:04] <sYnie> every time, i copy things from DVD that works perfekt. but when i try to copy things from a CDRom, i'll get a input/output error. thats what dmesg says: http://nopaste.php-q.net/247327
[04:04] <sYnie> any ideas ? o.O
[04:04] <kumsy> jende: any link for that deb package u may give
[04:06] <jende> kumsy: first a link to the xllibs manual, which might be handy to have a look at
[04:06] <jende> kumsy: www.the-labs.com/X11/XLib-Manual
[04:06] <kumsy> rideout: i have that package installed
[04:07] <rideout> kumsy: the realplay packages all require libx11-6
[04:07] <rideout> Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.10.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3), libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libx11-6, libxext6, libxv1
[04:07] <kumsy> jucato: btw, i use opera to listen to online radio(like one on RAAGA.com)\
[04:08] <jende> kumsy: http://www.real.com/linux/
[04:08] <kumsy> jucato: it streams real media through javascript popup
[04:08] <Jucato> ah
[04:09] <jende> kumsy: so its .bin file now, they used to have deb's but shouldn't matter
[04:09] <kumsy> jucato: will i be able to play them when i install the realplayer(it plays well in XP after i installed real there in XP)
[04:10] <kumsy> jende: ya~ i`m downloading that bin file
[04:10] <jende> kumsy: cool, it does the job on my debian etch box just perfectly
[04:10] <Jucato> kumsy: I'm not sure about online/streaming media :(
[04:10] <kumsy> jende: will u tell me how to install that package. sorry! i`m a noob
[04:11] <kumsy> juctao: have u tried ever?
[04:11] <jende> Jucato: can we give that realplayer link somehow in the hands of the bot?so he knows
[04:11] <Jucato> jende: probably, but the thing is, it's the least recommended method. so it probably wouldn't be good to have ubotu memorize it
[04:11] <adwait> hello all
[04:12] <Jucato> kumsy: streaming real format? no. only downloaded ones
[04:12] <jende> kumsy: move on a shell into the directory in which you just downloaded the file
[04:12] <adwait> could somebod tell me if upgrading to edgy right now is a good idea? and if so, can I simply change the references in /etc/apt/sources.list and upgrade?
[04:12] <jende> kumsy and then make it executable using chmod; sudo chmod a+x <filename>
[04:12] <Jucato> adwait: not yet. it's still not officially released
[04:13] <Jucato> unless you really want to play around a bit, and are prepared for some random breaking and some updates
[04:13] <jende> kumsy: and the type sudo ./Real......... and follow up the install process
[04:13] <adwait> jucato: well I have upgraded to betas in the past and nothings major really ever broken......so can I do the upgrade using apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:13] <kumsy> jende: thank ya verymuch. what kubuntu r u using(is it edgy)
[04:14] <Jucato> adwait: yeah. just need to change sources.list
[04:14] <jende> kumsy: yep...I'm on edgy
[04:14] <kumsy> jende: hows edgy? any upgrades?
[04:14] <adwait> ok thanks :)
[04:15] <kumsy> jende: another thing,,,, can we install dapper packages in edgy
[04:15] <Jucato> kumsy: not really
[04:16] <jende> kumsy: it comes with a lot more nice features and it has the latest OpenOffice Version in it, which is much more stabel
[04:16] <jende> kumsy: no you cant install dapper packages on edgy
[04:16] <jende> jende: and a few more nice things
[04:17] <Jucato> kumsy: Edgy has: a new *generic* kernel, KDE 3.5.5, new init system (for geeks :P), new artwork and color scheme, a new USplash, new KSplash, some of the latest packages, and more
[04:18] <kkathman> Alot of those things have been around for a while, just not in Kubuntu
[04:18] <jende> Jucato: it's a beauty - basically
[04:18] <jende> kkathman: they haven't been in Debian stable either
[04:18] <Jucato> jende: yeah I've been there until Beta was released
[04:18] <kkathman> what kernel is going to be standard in Edgy ??
[04:19] <kumsy> jende: u have way tooooo much kubuntu in ur head
[04:19] <Jucato> kkathman: Debian has Upstart? *gasps*
[04:19] <jende> kumsy: toooo much? wouldn't say that
[04:19] <kkathman> jende:  well, I mean for instance higher kernerls, KDE 3.5.5, Higher versions of Amarok, etc :)
[04:19] <Jucato> kkathman: well, of course, since Kubuntu takes its packages from Debian Sid :)
[04:20] <kkathman> right
[04:21] <jende> kumsy: I'm still learning, but thats the good thing about Linux systems you'll never stop learning
[04:21] <Jucato> still, there are some stuff the Debian doesn't have that Edgy will have. Upstart, USplash, artwork, etc.
[04:21] <kkathman> 2.6.15 as a kernel is a bit behind  tho.. but I suppose one could pop a higher kernel if they wanted (but not if yer LTS I guess)
[04:21] <Jucato> I though Edgy will release with 2.6.17?
[04:21] <Jucato> s/though/thought
[04:21] <acaua> oi
[04:22] <LjL> Jucato: definitely should...
[04:22] <fdoving> Jucato: correct, edgy got 2.6.17
[04:22] <Hobbsee> kkathman!!!!
[04:22] <kkathman> there could be some benefit for a few people on a new kernel I guess :)
[04:22] <kkathman> Hi there Hobbsee :)
[04:22] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee! fancy seeing you this late :)
[04:22] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:23] <Hobbsee> kkathman: ltns
[04:23] <tobias_> anyone know how to make the flashplayer go full screen? trying to see the daily show episodes on pollsmoking.com
[04:23] <jende> Jucato: i comes wit a 2.6.17
[04:23] <kkathman> Hobbsee:   hee hee - Im back to Kubuntu now.. dumping SuSE
[04:23] <jende> Jucato: it comes with a 2.6.17
[04:23] <Hobbsee> kkathman: *NICE!*
[04:23] <Hobbsee> kkathman: why so?
[04:23] <Hobbsee> kkathman: and edgy is very pretty :)
[04:24] <jende> Hobbsee: Hi ;-)
[04:24] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  too many probs, and not enough support.. Novell is ruining SUSE
[04:24] <Hobbsee> heya jende
[04:24] <Hobbsee> kkathman: true that.
[04:24] <Jucato> noooo!! don't dump SuSE!! lol
[04:25] <jende> Hobbsee: edgy is a beauty and as much as I can say it's quite stable
[04:25] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  dont get me wrong..its a nice distro..but 10.1 was a disaster and took them 6 months just to respin install disks from  very serious package manager bugs
[04:25] <Hobbsee> kkathman: *ouch*
[04:25] <Hobbsee> kkathman: so they did finally release 10.1
[04:26] <blind_> where can i get the package libgnutls13
[04:26] <blind_> ??
[04:26] <Jucato> Hobbsee: huh? it's been quite a while
[04:26] <Jucato> kkathman: it pains me that the respin was just released barely two weeks after I downloaded the original 10.1, and I haven't even had the chance to use those...
[04:26] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  oh sure, if you were Lucky and went to SMART as the pkg manager, you were ok, as I was. But the community is deteriorating, and unpleased with Novell.
[04:27] <Hobbsee> kkathman: ahhh.
[04:27] <Hobbsee> kkathman: how is smart?
[04:27] <kkathman> Jucato:  as I understand, the respin is good, tho.  But, very late yes.  10.2 is due out next month
[04:27] <Jucato> next month? oh krap...
[04:27] <blind_> where can i get the package libgnutls13 ????
[04:28] <Hobbsee> !info libgnutls13 dapper
[04:28] <ubotu> Package libgnutls13 does not exist in dapper
[04:28] <Hobbsee> !info libgnutls13 edgy
[04:28] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  its good, very good. Reliable and the dependency algorithms are excellent.  My opinion is that YaST should incorporate it, but prolly wont happen
[04:28] <ubotu> libgnutls13: the GNU TLS library - runtime library. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.0-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 262 kB, installed size 652 kB
[04:28] <Hobbsee> blind_: it's only in edgy
[04:28] <Hobbsee> kkathman: ahh...nice :)
[04:28] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  what's target for Edgy now, datewise??  Few weeks ?
[04:28] <Hobbsee> kkathman: 26/10
[04:28] <Jucato> kkathman: is SMART fast? (considering it's Python?)
[04:29] <Hobbsee> strike, i'd better upload some things :P
[04:29] <kkathman> Jucato:  comparably to YAST, its extremely fast, compared to apt-get, its slightly slower, but you dont get the metapackage issues either so I'd say its a trade off
[04:30] <kkathman> I exclusively used smart, not YAST
[04:30] <Jucato> compared to Aptitude?
[04:30] <Jucato> (which handles metapackages)
[04:30] <kkathman> about the same as Aptitude perhaps, but slightly slower. But reliability is excellent
[04:30] <kkathman> its a bit more intuitive for a new user perhaps
[04:31] <Jucato> ah. I thought Ubuntu would be moving towards SMART. mabye after Edgy...
[04:31] <kkathman> But the smart -gui is very simiar to synaptic
[04:31] <kkathman> people using the Gui wont have probs at all, CLI implementation is easy to learn
[04:33] <jende> DjDarkman_: why were you interesting in what I'm doing here?
[04:33] <Jucato> kkathman: that's good to hear. I had reservations about SMART becuase even its devs admit that it's a bit slow. I haven'd had any experience with YaST so I couldn't compare
[04:34] <DjDarkman_> jende: just wanted to know it ,no real reason
[04:34] <jende> DjDarkman_: i see, just a bit curious you were
[04:34] <DjDarkman_> yep
[04:34] <jende> DjDarkman_: what are you doing
[04:34] <jende> DjDarkman_: what are you doing?
[04:35] <DjDarkman_> writing myself a frontend for wondershaper ,cause I`m tired of always writing it to the cli
[04:35] <kkathman> Jucato - If they remove alot of the visual feedback, it would be faster.  Dont get me wrong, its slower than apt or aptitude, but what's very good is the depdendency algorithms, without having to use metapackages
[04:36] <jende> DjDarkman_: i haven't used wondershaper so far
[04:36] <DjDarkman_> jende: it`s a net bandwidth limiting program
[04:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[04:36] <jende> DjDarkman_: okay, I never had to use such a tool
[04:37] <jende> BluesKaj: Hi buddy ;-)
[04:38] <DjDarkman_> jende: I have two friends here and we use the same internet connection
[04:38] <BluesKaj> hi jende , wassup ?
[04:38] <jende> DjDarkman_: well, then such a tool might be handy to have indeed
[04:38] <jende> BluesKaj: nothing much
[04:39] <jende> BluesKaj: it's kinda like quiet today in here
[04:39] <jende> Jucato: yes, please...hehe
[04:40] <DjDarkman_> jende: what do you know about edgy ,do they want to wait for kde4 until they release it`s final?
[04:40] <jende> DjDarkman_: as much as I know they wont wait - the release will be on 26/10
[04:40] <Jucato> "Mark Shuttleworth becomes the first Patron of KDE" http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/ (note: it has nothing to do with saints :P)
[04:40] <BluesKaj> yeah, i was running windows for a bit today, but I got bored ...linux is much more fun even when it's boring , if ya know what i mean  :)
[04:41] <jende> BluesKaj: yep, i know what you mean...lol
[04:41] <jende> BluesKaj: <- scared of getting some minor probs
[04:42] <jende> BluesKaj: but as I said yesterday i hadn't had any which weren't easily to fix
[04:42] <BluesKaj> I still have some like my TV tuner card not being supported by dapper ...it works with tvtime ok tho except the audio has to be fed seperayely
[04:43] <jende> BluesKaj: i'm not really into all that multimedia stuff anyway
[04:44] <BluesKaj> jende: , it's an elcheapo ati TV Wonder Pro
[04:44] <BluesKaj> well, I do a lotta movie burning for my grandkids and wife
[04:46] <BluesKaj> what's Microsoft MTP? I see it as an adept update
[04:47] <jende> BluesKaj: Microsoft Media transport Protocol
[04:47] <BluesKaj> hehe, I think I get it
[04:48] <jende> BluesKaj: http://www.directionsonmicrosoft.com/sample/DOMIS/update/2004/10oct/1004mpumsf_sb.htm
[04:49] <jdawiz> how would I make the following into a repository in kubuntu dapper.  I know how to manipulate the sources file but for some reason I can't get this to work as a repository http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/debian/main/binary-i386/pluto-orbiter_2.0.0.40_i386.deb
[04:49] <jende> BluesKaj: that should give you more than just an idea of what it's re MTP all about
[04:51] <jende> BluesKaj: what chipset does your TVcard have?
[04:51] <BluesKaj> dunno
[04:52] <jende> lspci should tell you
[04:54] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[04:54] <BluesKaj> ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a3f
[04:55] <jende> BluesKaj: its a X600 chipset
[04:55] <BluesKaj> my tvtuner card isn't supported
[04:55] <jende> what are you using to watch tv
[04:56] <carsten> Moin
[04:56] <jende> BluesKaj: something like mythtv?
[04:56] <BluesKaj> satellite receiver with a compsite video connection
[04:56] <BluesKaj> and analog audio
[04:56] <carsten> Is there a rss-feed or something which tracks changes in Edgy? There was a nttp-group for dapper but there is none for Edgy Eft
[04:56] <BluesKaj> TvTime
[04:56] <robin_> why do mp3's sounds so much better with amarok than they do with other programs in kubuntu and in xp for that matter?
[04:56] <dinosaur-rus> I have problems with compiling 32-bit apps that use X Window system (Wine, particularly)
[04:57] <jende> BluesKaj: check out that site: http://www.rulerofearth.com/
[04:57] <wedgeV> they dont?
[04:58] <BluesKaj> damn, I updated FF and now it won't launch when clicking on URLs in konversation
[04:58] <morghanphoenix> Ooh jende, something that lists my card!
[04:58] <jende> BluesKaj: and that one, too   http://gatos.sourceforge.net/
[04:58] <jende> morghanphoenix: what, what, what???
[04:59] <morghanphoenix> I don't like the very alpha part though
[04:59] <kkathman> does anyone know if you can supress the "Popup Blocked" message in Konqueror? Its as annoying as the popup itself :)
[04:59] <morghanphoenix> 16 meg all-in-wonder rage 128
[04:59] <BluesKaj> right on jende! thx :)
[04:59] <dinosaur-rus> kkathman: use Opera ;)
[04:59] <morghanphoenix> I agree
[04:59] <jende> BluesKaj: sometimes I can at least help
[04:59] <morghanphoenix> Always use Opera
[05:00] <dinosaur-rus> it's 32-bit, but still very very good
[05:00] <kkathman> dinosaur-rus:   well I would, except its terrible when it comes to playing multimedia embedded
[05:00] <morghanphoenix> Only annoyance I've had there was the pop-up to tell me flash wasn't installed.
[05:00] <rideout> robin_: what engine do you use with amarok, maybe you have some option that enables/diables duplex sound or something that might make it better
[05:00] <morghanphoenix> xine
[05:00] <morghanphoenix> always xine
[05:00] <morghanphoenix> all amarok supports
[05:01] <dinosaur-rus> morghanphoenix: XMMS isn't bad, too :P
[05:01] <morghanphoenix> unless you've got that wierd distro that uses gstreamer despite the fact it's unsupported.
[05:01] <morghanphoenix> I forget which one it was
[05:01] <morghanphoenix> But they packaged amarok with gstreamer even though it's not supported.
[05:01] <robin_> you dont understand,  amarok sounds great, everything else sucks lol
[05:01] <dinosaur-rus> I have problems with compiling 32-bit apps that use X Window system (Wine, particularly)
[05:02] <LjL> I'm not sure why on the official Kubuntu channel people would so strongly suggest the use of a proprietary web browser.
[05:02] <morghanphoenix> What do I need windows wise for WINE?
[05:02] <morghanphoenix> It uses dlls doesn't it?
[05:02] <dinosaur-rus> I can't compile Wine itself
[05:02] <morghanphoenix> It's still free, just closed source
[05:03] <BluesKaj> jende: , my TV Wonder Pro card isn't listed ...i can configure something with TVTime cuz i do have video ...I just have to rig the audio feed differently than i do in windows .
[05:03] <morghanphoenix> And it's actually more secure than firefox.
[05:03] <morghanphoenix> Now firefox is seccond place
[05:03] <Genix|linux> morghanphoenix: what browser?
[05:03] <morghanphoenix> And wonder of wonders, IE is last.
[05:03] <morghanphoenix> Opera
[05:04] <Genix|linux> hmm
[05:04] <Jucato> is morghanphoenix preaching the benefits of Opera again? :P
[05:04] <dinosaur-rus> even in 32-bit mode linker tries to find X libraries in /urs/lib
[05:04] <Genix|linux> how does it run under kubuntu
[05:04] <morghanphoenix> Only browser ranked higher than firefox for security
[05:04] <morghanphoenix> Great
[05:04] <Jucato> Opera runs great under Kubuntu
[05:04] <jende> BluesKaj: the card itself doesn't have to be really listed. The chipset is the part which needs to be fully supported
[05:04] <Jucato> specially since it uses Qt :)
[05:04] <Genix|linux> how do i set something to run at start up under kde i know you go to sessions in gnome but not sure about kde
[05:04] <dinosaur-rus> Genix|linux: I use Opera and it works pretty well
[05:04] <morghanphoenix> It's even got the repo in source-o-matic
[05:04] <ZeroCool> do they got a fix for monitor & display module issue...
[05:05] <aether> Which browser is this Morg?
[05:05] <Jucato> or just use the one from dapper-commercial or Hawkwind's repository
[05:05] <Genix|linux> hmm i might hafta try opera
[05:05] <morghanphoenix> Or automatix, it has it in the list of programs that can be installed.
[05:05] <dinosaur-rus> hmm, can anyone help me?
[05:05] <Jucato> Just 2 issues I have with Opera: if you like Google products/service, they don't render properly; URL completion is done by pressing Tab
[05:05] <morghanphoenix> You're WINE, right?
[05:06] <Genix|linux> hawkwinds repo?
[05:06] <LjL> Please note that Opera is a proprietary (and, in some of its incarnation, not even free as in beer) browser. It might be a good browser, but advicing to use it instead of open-source free alternatives on Ubuntu is totally ill-minded, IMHO. It's just about like saying "Just use Windows" is someone comes here and asks about an Ubuntu problem.
[05:06] <dinosaur-rus> morghanphoenix: what do you mean?
[05:06] <BluesKaj> jende, there 's a warning http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php
[05:06] <Jucato> Genix|linux: Hawkwind runs SeerOfSouls, one of the largest 3rd party Mandriva repositories. He also occasionally packages some stuff for Ubuntu. one of them is Opera
[05:06] <morghanphoenix> the WINE issue was you dinosaur?
[05:07] <dinosaur-rus> LjL: where isn't Opera free?
[05:07] <morghanphoenix> It wasn't
[05:07] <Jucato> LjL: it's their choice to use, as it is our choice to suggest, as it is your choice not to suggest :)
[05:07] <morghanphoenix> It is now, just closed source.
[05:07] <morghanphoenix> Same as Java, click agree and it's free.
[05:07] <dinosaur-rus> morghanphoenix: well, not only Wine is affected, but I need it but can't get compiled :(
[05:08] <Genix|linux> you guys all on dapper or anyone using edgy
[05:08] <Jucato> same as Flash, NVIDIA/ATI drivers, VMWare, etc.
[05:08] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, thought so, I can't help you, having problems there myself.
[05:08] <morghanphoenix> Not untill, what is it, the 26th?
[05:08] <dinosaur-rus> Genix|linux: I'm on Edgy
[05:09] <Jucato> Genix|linux: I was on Edgy until Knot 3 (pre Beta)
[05:09] <dinosaur-rus> hehe, I'm on Knot 3 :))
[05:09] <Genix|linux> o
[05:09] <Genix|linux> i'm on the latest beta
[05:09] <Genix|linux> no idea what that is
[05:09] <Genix|linux> lol
[05:09] <LjL> Jucato, there are things that simply shouldn't be suggested on these channels. I'm certainly not the one who can *dictate* what these things should be, but for instance, you can be sure that suggesting the use of the "rm" command in certain ways is *not* tolerated... so if you're thinking of the line that "everyone's free to suggest whatever", that's just not correct.
[05:10] <Genix|linux> dinosaur-rus: you have shockwave or flash working?
[05:10] <jende> BluesKaj: I'm quite sure that it should work, but I'll ask a friend of mine tonight - he is into TV and stuff with Linux in general
[05:10] <dinosaur-rus> morghanphoenix: at least do you have any idea what's going on with the linker? why does it looks in the wrong directory for SOME (not all!) libs?
[05:11] <morghanphoenix> Not a clue, the linker is my OGM problem.
[05:11] <Genix|linux> and damn no opera for amd64 :(
[05:11] <dinosaur-rus> Genix|linux: not tried yet, I'm busy with linker promlems ATM
[05:11] <Jucato> LjL: but that rm command present more than just a moral problem. it presents a technical one. if you become really strict with suggesting only free software, we wouldn't even have ubotu talk about RestrictedFormats or teach people how to install the binary drivers. in some ways we are free, in some ways we are not. suggesting browsers is one of those we are free to talk about
[05:11] <Genix|linux> yeah dino i'm trying to get my 5.1 working
[05:12] <jende> Jucato: FACK!
[05:12] <Genix|linux> not going too well
[05:12] <Jucato> jende: huh?
[05:12] <dinosaur-rus> Genix|linux: what 5.1?
[05:12] <LjL> Jucato, the RestrictedFormat factoid *and* page describes clearly the reasons why unrestricted formats are preferred. Here on this channel, what I saw was more on the lines of: "I have a problem with my Konqueror" "Just use Opera instead".  I don't consider this acceptable.
[05:12] <morghanphoenix> Hell, I've even seen people tell someone how to install IE in here, for web-dev of course, but still IE. Can't complain about Opera after that one.
[05:12] <jende> Jucato: FACK to that what you just said to LjL
[05:13] <morghanphoenix> Ah, I missed the first part.
[05:13] <Genix|linux> dino my 5.1 sound
[05:13] <Jucato> jende: I'm sorry, but what does FACK mean? (clueless here)
[05:13] <jende> Full Acknowledgement
[05:13] <Jucato> jende: aaah
[05:13] <dinosaur-rus> Genix|linux: ah..
[05:13] <kkathman> well in all honesty, being the one that started this... I fixed my issue :)
[05:13] <morghanphoenix> I just saw Opera and love it so much I had to agree with anyone promoting it.
[05:13] <aether> Fack im guessin is the equivilant to fuck
[05:13] <aether> I was using it last night out of boredom lmao
[05:13] <jende> aether: you're unfortunately wrong
[05:14] <aether> meh
[05:14] <jende> aether: hehe
[05:14] <aether> I said im guessin :P
[05:14] <LjL> !language
[05:14] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:14] <Jucato> LjL: and that is where your freedom to disagree comes in. Remember, the question was more technical. someoune could have suggested to use Firefox, but then even Firefox, in Debian's eyes is not totally unencumbered
[05:14] <kkathman> But Opera isnt the solution, its API, fwif, doesnt support kmplayer so to me its not a viable solution for pages that offer in line video like CNN or BBC  thats why I use Konq :)
[05:14] <jende> Jucato: TB has been has been already "renamed" to Icedove
[05:15] <morghanphoenix> supports mplayer and kaffeine
[05:15] <Jucato> jende: oh. I was thinking it would be something contrasting "thunder", probably something like "ground"  or "wind" (just as "ice" contrasts with "fire")
[05:16] <kkathman> morghanphoenix:  the info I got was from the Opera people themselves, so I certainly open if you can show me a way to play videos from CNN in Opera :)
[05:16] <jende> Jucato: we had just yesterday a nice discussion bout that on the german user debian list...
[05:16] <kkathman> but, Ive tried ALOT and I have yet to be successful
[05:16] <morghanphoenix> Kaffiene uses the mozilla plug-in, it's what I have running now.
[05:16] <kkathman> morghanphoenix:  and you can see CNN videos?
[05:17] <kkathman> i.e. click on a video link on that page and view?
[05:17] <LjL> Jucato: but do you agree that, for instance, a blanket "Use sudo passwd root" is never considered an acceptable answer to the question "How can i become root"? There are some answers that should *always* be given together with the due explanations and caveats, and I am convinved that much of the Ubuntu channels staff supports this view.
[05:17] <morghanphoenix> Haven't been to cnn, but it plays the mpgs and avis on other web pages, what format does cnn use?
[05:17] <Genix|linux> if i have edgy on can i go back to dapper or would i have to re install
[05:17] <kkathman> morghanphoenix:  no it doesnt...they are wmv files
[05:17] <kkathman> as does BBC
[05:18] <morghanphoenix> hmm, you have w32?
[05:18] <aether> we talking about t.v channels now?
[05:18] <kkathman> Mpgs and avia are no problem, I agree, morghanphoenix
[05:18] <aether> cnn BBC lol :s
[05:18] <kkathman> morghanphoenix:  yes - as I said, it seems to be a technical thing
[05:18] <morghanphoenix> wierd.
[05:18] <Jucato> LjL: I agree. but again, because the argument is technical rather than moral.
[05:18] <kkathman> Firefox can play these also, just Opera cannot - which was why I pursued it to Opera
[05:19] <morghanphoenix> I'd check it, but am on a fresh install, no plug-ins yet.
[05:19] <Jucato> LjL: don't get me wrong. I use Konqi as my primary browser, and just fallback on Firefox for Google and WYSIWYG stuff
[05:19] <dinosaur-rus> kkathman: may be because Opera is 32-bit?
[05:20] <kkathman> dinosaur-rus:  well, according to the Opera dev that I spoke with, it has to do with the particular API that they use and its not compatible with mplayer or kmplayer
[05:20] <kkathman> while Firefox and Konq are
[05:20] <LjL> Jucato: the argument is mostly technical about using proprietary browsers, as well. Just look at the channel topic in #ubuntu if you don't mind -- it talks about a vulnerability in the proprietary nvidia drivers, which cannot be fixed by the Ubuntu developers (clearly), and advices to switch back to the nv driver.  And I don't think this is a far-fetched comparison, since browsers are far from being rarely-exploitable beasts.
[05:21] <morghanphoenix> I'd use konqueror just to keep it simple, but it seems to have less compatibility than opera does.
[05:21] <LjL> Jucato: using proprietary software simply means using software that the Ubuntu developers cannot directly support and fix. People using such software should know, and people suggesting its use should tell. This is on technical merits.
[05:21] <morghanphoenix> I think I might go with sea monkey someday though.
[05:21] <Jucato> LjL: our argument is bordering on moral. but the original problem was purely technical. "something doesn't work on Konqi"
[05:21] <kkathman> morghanphoenix:  I dont disagree with that.  Opera is my browser of choice, just that it cant play alot of inline streams, to my dismay
[05:21] <LjL> Jucato: yes, and the answer was a blanket "Use Opera", for what I could see.
[05:22] <BluesKaj> anaged to fix FF as default URL browser in settings/configure/general...browser option was greyed out ...just had to type in "firefox "
[05:22] <BluesKaj> anaged
[05:22] <morghanphoenix> agreed, recomend Opera because it's a great program, make sure to note it's closed source and unsupported.
[05:22] <rittap> Hi all, how do I insert Flash support into Konqueror on x86_64 architecture?
[05:22] <Jucato> LjL: but that's the prerogative of the one who suggested it. he was answering from a technical point of view.
[05:22] <BluesKaj> so you like opera more than FF
[05:22] <Jucato> of course, you're free to disagree with me. but the discussion is going nowhere, don't you think?
[05:22] <morghanphoenix> Much more
[05:23] <morghanphoenix> Personal taste
[05:23] <morghanphoenix> I just think EVERYONE should try both, they both have merits, Opera's just the one for me.
[05:23] <BluesKaj> always open top new programs ...tried opera in the past but was a bit clunky at the time
[05:23] <morghanphoenix> It was really bad
[05:24] <morghanphoenix> Been improved a LOT recently.
[05:24] <LjL> Jucato: I think it's his prerogative, *as long* as he specifies that Opera, being proprietary, cannot be supported directly by the Ubuntu team (so no guarantee of security updates, chiefly). This note should always come with such a suggestion, just like the note that "it's not really supported and you shouldn't do it" should always come with an answer to "how do i set a root password".
[05:24] <dinosaur-rus> I guess it's, at least, weird to think "only open-source, and nothing more"...
[05:24] <BluesKaj> is Opera in the repos ?
[05:24] <sheft> hello, how do i make a shortcut to a konsole command... i wanna open konsole and then execute this command: "cd spel/q3 <enter> ./quake3.x86 +set fs_game cpma"
[05:24] <morghanphoenix> Added repos
[05:24] <LjL> dinosaur-rus: i haven't said that.
[05:24] <morghanphoenix> Source-o-matic has it
[05:24] <LjL> BluesKaj: it's in dapper-commercial AFAIK.
[05:24] <BluesKaj> ok
[05:25] <kkathman> On the Opera site there is a specific Ubuntu download, also
[05:25] <Jucato> it was in multiverse before. but now that there's dapper-commercial, it has been put there instead
[05:25] <morghanphoenix> Yup, and Automatix does it too.
[05:26] <tobias_> anyone know how to make the flashplayer go full screen? trying to see the daily show episodes on pollsmoking.com
[05:26] <tobias_> Its sad to see it in a small window :(
[05:26] <dinosaur-rus> LjL: but you suggest using open-source software with so much persistense....
[05:26] <tobias_> jon stewart needs to be in full screen
[05:26] <dinosaur-rus> *c
[05:27] <morghanphoenix> Yes, preferably over my own 19" flat
[05:27] <kkathman> Jucato:  I apologize for causing such a stir for a simple question..hehe :)
[05:27] <morghanphoenix> One of those 30"s would be nice.
[05:27] <Jucato> kkathman: it's ok. I actually blame morghanphoenix :P
[05:27] <LjL> dinosaur-rus: wrong. I suggest that a blanket advice to use a piece of proprietary software just because the standard Ubuntu-supplied software is giving a problem, without even specifying that the suggested software is proprietary, with all the consequences this has (see what I just told Jucato), is wrong.
[05:27] <morghanphoenix> lol
[05:27] <LjL> well, for that matter, I
[05:27] <morghanphoenix> yup, blame the bird, everyone does.
[05:28] <T3hWiz0rd> t3hwiz0rd-server: BAD SERVER!
[05:28] <LjL> well, for that matter, I'm still waiting to be told to move this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic, since it clearly doesn't belong here. Apparently nobody's caring about that, either.
[05:28] <kkathman> morghanphoenix:  I dont blame you :)
[05:28] <jende> LjL: don't you think that that what you just said is a bit close-minded?
[05:28] <rittap> LjL: move this topic to #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[05:28] <morghanphoenix> Like I said, it's all preference.
[05:29] <kkathman> Ljl  I thought the discusion was topical tho :)
[05:29] <rittap> LjL: just kidding :)
[05:29] <jende> morghanphoenix: I totally agree
[05:29] <BluesKaj> kkathman: gonna install the opers deb pkg and we'll see :)
[05:29] <LjL> kkathman: this channel is dedicated to giving Ubuntu support, so no
[05:29] <Jucato> LjL: I already suggested to stop the discussion
[05:29] <morghanphoenix> If I ever learn to hack my programs I'll switch to open source so I can work on my apps.
[05:29] <BluesKaj> err opera
[05:29] <kkathman> ohh
[05:29] <BluesKaj> :)
[05:30] <amayera> hi
[05:30] <LjL> jenda, which phrase are you referring to?
[05:30] <morghanphoenix> But for now, the exent of my programming is HTML and editing superkaramba themes.
[05:30] <amayera> anybody of you using edgy with dm-crypt?
[05:30] <jende> LjL: to the one you've given to dnosaur-rus
[05:30] <kkathman> LjL:   other support channels allow that kind of discussion...as it is for the general good of all concerned, as long as people dont get overlooked on real support questions, of course :)
[05:31] <Jucato> kkathman: I'm thinking amayera's question got overlooked :)
[05:31] <jende> amayera: unfortunately not
[05:31] <LjL> jende: well, actually no, rather i think suggesting the use of proprietary software with a blanket "just use xyz" without any additional explanation *is* closed-minded
[05:31] <morghanphoenix> No edgy for me untill the actual release.
[05:31] <kkathman> Jucato:  I see that :)  but then I cant answer it either :)
[05:32] <morghanphoenix> Use Konqueror, Firefox and Opera, whatever works, kepp. The others, sudo apt-get remove (program)
[05:32] <morghanphoenix> Well, not konq
[05:32] <Jucato> LjL: please keep in mind that not everyone is as "morally conscious" as you when it comes to suggesting non-free software, nor do they feel the need to include "is non-free" in every suggestion.
[05:32] <amayera> ok, well, I will ask it now ^^: I am using dm-crypt and my cryptdisks should be mounted with /etc/init.d/cryptdisks-early, but usplash prevents the passphrase question from being showed. this is rather annoying as I have to do all by hand.
[05:32] <morghanphoenix> should probably keep that one.
[05:32] <Jucato> having said that, please stop the discussion
[05:33] <amayera> is this a known issue / bug or something?
[05:33] <LjL> Jucato: alright
[05:34] <kkathman> amayera:  could you substitute another splash?
[05:34] <amayera> kkathman: what do you mean?
[05:34] <dude_> !nVidia
[05:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:35] <kkathman> amayera:  I guess I dont know when  your prompt is coming up... if its covering something, I'd say that would be more of a dm-crypt issue (bug) cuz all linux distros have a usplash right?
[05:36] <morghanphoenix> Anybody know about legacy drivers for ATI?
[05:36] <morghanphoenix> that glwhatever doesn't support mine.
[05:36] <amayera> kkathman: well, debian hasn't :D
[05:36] <rittap> How do I insert flash support into Konqueror on x86_64?
[05:37] <kkathman> amayera:   hmm, I really dont know then.
[05:37] <amayera> kkathman: any idea whom I can contact for this issue?
[05:37] <morghanphoenix> Doesn't the install flash script give an option for konqueror?
[05:37] <kkathman> amayera:  what has been the dm-crypt response on the issue??
[05:37] <amayera> kkathman: I have only asked here so far.
[05:38] <amayera> as I thought it might be a known issue.
[05:38] <kkathman> amayera:  ahh, ok.
[05:38] <morghanphoenix> Are you running the installer with konqueror closed?
[05:38] <Jucato> morghanphoenix: what flash script? from flashplugin-nonfree?
[05:38] <rittap> morghanphoenix: I downloaded that one, but it doesnt support x68_64...
[05:38] <morghanphoenix> oh, no, I downloaded from the flash site.
[05:38] <Jucato> ah
[05:38] <rittap> !flashplugin-nonfree
[05:38] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:38] <morghanphoenix> It has a script in the package that should work for konqueror.
[05:39] <rittap> morghanphoenix: nope, not on AMD63
[05:39] <amayera> I will try #ubuntu. should be the same issue there.
[05:39] <Frumpy> does kubuntu limit access to mysql root user or is there a different user configured for mysql on kubuntu ?
[05:39] <rittap> morghanphoenix: oops AMD64
[05:39] <xdemon> hi all!
[05:39] <Frumpy> ! mysql
[05:39] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[05:39] <dinosaur-rus> rittap: 63-bit processor? :))
[05:39] <rittap> dinosaur-rus: typo :)
[05:39] <morghanphoenix> hmm, don't know, I have an athlon.
[05:39] <xdemon> anyone try using BAGHIRA theme under kubuntu?
[05:39] <xdemon> !baghira
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <rittap> !kdm > xdemon
[05:40] <morghanphoenix> !kdm > morghanphoenix
[05:41] <xdemon> i doesnt need kdm
[05:41] <rittap> morghanphoenix: I tried to manual install the script by copying the two files (libflashplayer.so & flashplayer.xpt) into a plugin directory, but KDE doesnt see the plugin
[05:42] <admin__> Hi guys
[05:42] <morghanphoenix> I don't know about the 64, have the kubuntu disc for it, but it's for other's computers.
[05:43] <morghanphoenix> Now why didn't anyone suggest acidrip to me earlier when I was looking for a program to rip my DVDs?
[05:43] <BluesKaj> BBL
[05:43] <morghanphoenix> This thing is great!
[05:44] <Baffy> Guys, Does Arpspoof works on web servers?
[05:45] <morghanphoenix> Is there a program to make playlists out of avi files?
[05:45] <Baffy> Does anyone know if arpspoof work on web servers?
[05:47] <Baffy> what program is the best if i want to make a windows script/Program?
[05:48] <Baffy> damn you guys you are boring ! =P
[05:48] <dinosaur-rus> Baffy: why do you want to make Windows program in Linux?
[05:48] <Baffy> Cuss its easier
[05:48] <Baffy> i hate c++
[05:51] <sheft> hey boys n girls
[05:51] <sheft> i have made a shortcut on my desktop. how do i move it to  my panel?
[05:53] <bmo> you drag it there
[05:53] <bmo> sheft
[05:53] <sheft> i cant
[05:53] <sheft> cause it want to be dragged onto my other icons there
[05:53] <bmo> make room
[05:54] <bmo> grab one of the applet handles and drag to make room
[05:54] <sheft> i have room, i still cant
[05:54] <sheft> a little X comes up over the icon when i try to drag it there.
[05:55] <bmo> then you're not dragging it to empty space.  I just did it twice, just to make sure I'm not crazy
[05:56] <sheft> i am 100% positive i have room for it
[05:56] <bmo> a little x?  not a circle with a line through it?
[05:57] <sheft> w8
[05:57] <sheft> i have screenshot now :P
[05:57] <bmo> !paste
[05:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:58] <sheft> bmo: the screenshot didnt show my mouse icon, but anyways..
[05:58] <bmo> where did you put the screenshot?
[05:59] <sheft> http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skrmdump3xa1.png
[05:59] <v3ctor> is your panel locked?
[05:59] <sheft> no
[05:59] <v3ctor> that was a fast check
[06:00] <v3ctor>  :D
[06:00] <morghanphoenix> that was really slow
[06:01] <v3ctor> lol
[06:01] <sheft> ^^
[06:01] <v3ctor> farther than mine
[06:01] <sheft> haha
[06:01] <sheft> ill try saving as   jpg instead, 2 sec :P
[06:01] <morghanphoenix> what icon set?
[06:01] <morghanphoenix> I likey
[06:02] <v3ctor> that image really doesn't show a problem
[06:02] <bmo> there it is
[06:02] <sheft> http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skrmdump3go6.jpg
[06:02] <sheft> screenshot didnt catch my mouse
[06:02] <bmo> now that thing labelled q3, which direction did you drag it, toward the empty spot or straight down?
[06:02] <sheft> but its a circle with a "X"
[06:03] <morghanphoenix> open a spot between your icons on the panle
[06:03] <morghanphoenix> drop it in empty space
[06:03] <sheft> to the empty spot, if i drag it onto the other icons nothing happens aswell
[06:04] <bmo> the standard procedure is to drag an icon to the bar.  I don't know of any other way to add an icon to the bar
[06:05] <morghanphoenix> You could right click and add application to panel.
[06:05] <bmo> odd
[06:05] <bmo> yeah, but that's not adding a shortcut
[06:05] <morghanphoenix> non-kde application not specific enough for you?
[06:06] <morghanphoenix> Let's you do path and all that, need something more?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[06:07] <bmo> that heart icon, that's his "bookmark" icon?
[06:08] <sheft> i rightclicked on the icon and selected it
[06:09] <bmo> no, no, left click and drag, not right click
[06:09] <bmo> what does right click do..hmmm..
[06:09] <sheft> select icons !
[06:10] <sheft> i leftclick and dragged lol
[06:10] <dude> !mp3
[06:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:11] <Martyo> how do I search for packages for kubuntu like you can with rpmfind?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search
[06:13] <Martyo> Dr_willis: thanks!
[06:13] <Dr_willis> !apt
[06:13] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:14] <DaSkreech> LjL: apt-get install vrms
[06:15] <LjL> DaSkreech: well, *that* one will probably show a warning even if it finds you're using a power supply that didn't come with the schematics
[06:18] <dude> !amarok
[06:18] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[06:20] <DaSkreech> LjL: More power to it :)
[06:20] <DaSkreech> LjL: I'm pretty sure that it is only sotware based
[06:20] <dude> where can i download codecs for amarok
[06:20] <LjL> !mp3
[06:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:21] <TheGateKeeper> dude: amarok using xine engine & libxine-extracodecs :-)
[06:21] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:21] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:21] <dude> tnx
[06:21] <TheGateKeeper> dude: ^^^^
[06:21] <Jucato> !multiverse
[06:21] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:21] <Jucato> dude: to enable multiverse ^^^^
[06:22] <dude> jucato: dow do i enable multiverse?
[06:23] <dude> jucato: how do i enable multiverse?
[06:23] <Hawkwind> !multiverse > dude
[06:23] <Jucato> dude: that Repositories/Kubuntu link
[06:23] <joakim> sudo apt-get install multiverse try that
[06:23] <Jucato> joakim: multiverse is not a package
[06:23] <Hawkwind> joakim: Not hardly
[06:24] <Hawkwind> joakim: Multiverse is a repository, not a package you install
[06:24] <Hawkwind> Though that would be nice if you could do that and it enabled multiverse :P
[06:24] <v3ctor> yes
[06:24] <Jucato> now if only it was the "easy" to enable multiverse :)
[06:24] <Jucato> Hawkwind: you're mimicking me :P
[06:24] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install repos  Would enable universe, multiverse and others
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: And ljl would complain that it enabled commercial :)
[06:25] <Jucato> or something more like "sudo apt-get enable <repository>"
[06:25] <v3ctor> i am still waiting for: apt-get fix broken-system
[06:25] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install brain && sudo apt-get remove --purge laziness
[06:25] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Oh well.  Maybe he could learn a thing or two about how good having those repos are :P
[06:26] <LjL> DaSkreech: i wouldn't mind easiness of adding repository, though i'd certainly like to see an explanatory message when you do
[06:26] <Jucato> ssshhh let's not have that discussion again. please?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> v3ctor: which is a symlink to fdisk -format /mnt/windows/partion ?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Hi nikkiana :)
[06:26] <Jucato> or if you insist, just bring it to #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:26] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech
[06:27] <DaSkreech> How are you?
[06:27] <nikkiana> DaSkreech: i'm okay :)
[06:27] <v3ctor> lol
[06:27] <DaSkreech> excellent :)
[06:27] <cox377> !webcam
[06:27] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:27] <Jucato> wasn't the response supposed to be "I'm fine. Thank you! how about you?" :)
[06:27] <Jucato> (classic textbook dialogue)
[06:28] <LjL> Jucato: no, i won't, i already brought it by Seveas, which gave me his standard clue of "do what you see fit and let others do the same, and i'll let you know what i think when i ban you" by ignoring the question
[06:28] <blind_> what's the sourse adress for libguichan0
[06:29] <LjL> (though, err, i didn't really mean to use "which" for seveas...)
[06:29] <blind_> what's the sourse adress for the package libguichan0
[06:29] <cox377> how many ppl here use webcams on there kubuntu/ubuntu?
[06:30] <zeratul> wish I could, but my cam don't have any linux drivers :(
[06:31] <jende> zeratul: what cam is it?
[06:31] <MetaMorfoziS> i think the spa5cx or how it spelled helps yours
[06:32] <larson9999> Hawkwind: found one thing that seems to be worse in swiftfox than firefox.  some of the video sites i visit are choppier in swiftfox.  i tried using both swiftfox first on the same file and vice versa and after reboots, etc.  this is on the the 2.0 version of ff.
[06:32] <cox377> basically, i want to use the cam as a CCTV and have it on a linux box so it starts taking video/images and uploading them as soon as it detects movement, is there something out there for linux that suitable to these requirements?
[06:32] <Jucato> blind_: make sure that the "deb-src" for your universe repositories are enabled, then "sudo apt-get source libguichan0"
[06:32] <marek> hi
[06:32] <marek> i have a problem
[06:32] <jende> marek: like what?
[06:32] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Strange.  I don't have that issue at all.  I can't find anything in swiftfox that is worse than firefox
[06:32] <marek> about xlibs
[06:32] <marek> i cannot install it
[06:33] <marek> becouse i need a libxft1 to install
[06:33] <larson9999> Hawkwind: rocektboom is what i just tested it on.
[06:33] <Jucato> Hawkwind: how good is the logo? :P
[06:33] <Hawkwind> Jucato: LOL, very decent
[06:33] <marek> but for libxft1 i need xfree86-common
[06:33] <Jucato> heh not good as Firefox though :P
[06:34] <marek> but i cannot install xfree86-common
[06:34] <morghanphoenix> partitioning question: What is the difference between primary and logical partitions and which paths need to be primary?
[06:34] <marek> becouse i have error
[06:34] <marek> like that
[06:34] <vss> I am having problems with kubunte kde menu and crossover. can someone help?
[06:34] <luis_lopez> cox377, a while ago there was an article on LJ about the topic: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6232
[06:34] <larson9999> Hawkwind: but i think i will keep using swiftfox primarily
[06:34] <dude> E: Couldn't find package multiverse
[06:35] <Jucato> dude: you're not supposed to "sudo apt-get install multiverse" :)
[06:35] <blind_> what's the sourse adress for the package libguichan0 ????
[06:35] <Jucato> blind_: I already answered you
 blind_: make sure that the "deb-src" for your universe repositories are enabled, then "sudo apt-get source libguichan0"
[06:36] <dude> jucato: whats should be the command?
[06:36] <jende> blind_: you might have to modify your sources.list if apt or adept wont get it for you
[06:37] <jende> dude: what do you wanna do?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> !winmodem
[06:37] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[06:37] <n8k99> dude: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:37] <Jucato> dude: did you read the link that was given? there's no 1 command to do that
[06:37] <n8k99> dude: then remove teh # in front of any line that says deb http://*
[06:37] <jende> Jucato: he is probably not reading what you told hime
[06:38] <jende> Jucato: he is probably not reading what you told him
[06:38] <Jucato> n8k99: that won't do, because by default, "multiverse" isn't even added
[06:38] <Jucato> !multiverse
[06:38] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:38] <Jucato> dude: read that link above ^^^^^^
[06:39] <dude> i did that already,
[06:39] <B-Minus> hey all
[06:40] <dude> i wanna download codecs for amarok
[06:40] <jende> !codecs
[06:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:40] <Jucato> dude: once you've enabled multiverse, you can use Adept to search for, download, and install libxine-extracodecs
[06:41] <Martijn81> are there any reason for not installing the MIT nv driver? ( http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228 )
[06:42] <jende> Jucato: i would invite you for a coffee...
[06:42] <dude> jucato: tnx, actually, my kubuntu is already setup and all codecs are installed but when i open my pc a while ago, no boot loader, no boot device detected so re install the system again
[06:42] <Martijn81> because i am not informed so well about this
[06:42] <Jucato> jende: heh thanks
[06:42] <jende> dude: so are you telling us that your box doesn't boot?
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Didn't boo
[06:42] <dude> ya
[06:42] <DaSkreech> t
[06:43] <jende> Jucato: and maybe a beer, buut only maybe
[06:43] <dude> 3hrs ago
[06:43] <Jucato> lol
[06:43] <dude> jucato: it didn't boot
[06:43] <jende> dude: have you done an upgrade or whatsoever before it happened?
[06:43] <dude> jucato: ya, i think so
[06:44] <jende> dude: it *didn't* boot or it does not boot
[06:45] <dude> jende: it didn't boot: the error was: no boot device detected"
[06:45] <jende> dude: and now it boots again, am i right
[06:46] <dude> jende: i re install the whole ubuntu
[06:46] <dude> jende: thats why im installing all the codecs again
[06:46] <dude> jucato: there are libxine-extracodecs
[06:46] <Jucato> dude: install that, and you'll be able to play mp3's
[06:47] <dude> jucato: there are no libxine-extracodecs found
[06:47] <Jucato> hm..
[06:48] <Jucato> dude: using pastebin, could you show the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:48] <Jucato> !pastebin
[06:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:48] <jende> dude: thats weird...
[06:48] <sheft> google
[06:49] <cox377> does anyone have any recommendations for the best webcam in the budget range that works on linux?
[06:49] <jende> dude: yeah, pastebin your sources.list as Jucato said that'll help heaps
[06:49] <Jucato> jende: not really. if he hadn't enabled/added the correct multiverse repository. I've seen it happen, even with the multiverse guide
[06:49] <dude> jende: i don't know what happened
[06:49] <shinobi> um. can i put kmenu menu on my desktop instead of in kicker?
[06:49] <dude> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27104
[06:50] <Jucato> shinobi: you can set your middle mouse button (or left mouse button) to launch the K Menu when you click on the desktop
[06:50] <shinobi> um yeah
[06:50] <Jucato> I just forgot which tab in System Settings does that
[06:50] <shinobi> but i want it to be an object
[06:50] <PiR> hi
[06:50] <shinobi> i use the mouse buttons for other stuff otherwise
[06:51] <dude> jucato: have you seen it?
[06:51] <Jucato> dude: yep
[06:51] <dude> jende: what do you think happned to my box?
[06:51] <TheGateKeeper> dude: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[06:51] <Jucato> dude: add the word "multiverse" at the end of the "deb http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"
[06:51] <sheft> i still cant get that button to my panel... http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ggpg3.jpg
[06:51] <shinobi> i customized the mouse buttons heavily already and the keyboard does all funky things at last. but this k menu thing is bugging me
[06:51] <PiR> I'd know which version is my package Qt but i don't know how ! my package : libqt4-dev - Qt 4 development files
[06:51] <dude> ok
[06:51] <Jucato> omg! I just noticed you're from the Philippines :)
[06:52] <sheft> philippines for the win. im going there after x-mas for a couple of months :P
[06:53] <Jucato> sheft: really? visiting someone?
[06:53] <jende> dude: I've just fixed your sources http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27105/
[06:53] <jende> dude: I hope you'll see the diffrence - you hadn't had the multiverse part in it
[06:53] <sheft> Jucato: no, to get out of sweden. need some time alone.. and... vacation :)
[06:53] <Jucato> oh heheh
[06:53] <sheft> and... party :)
[06:54] <hannaa> Hello! Is it ok to post a question regarding Kubuntu here?
[06:54] <Jucato> lol
[06:54] <jende> Jucato: dude hadn't had the multiverse section in it
[06:54] <Jucato> jende: hm.. scroll up? :P
[06:54] <dude> ok
[06:54] <dude> tnx
[06:54] <LjL> hannaa, yes.
[06:54] <ricanelite> Hello all!!
[06:54] <jende> hannaa: sure is, that's why its the kubuntu channel
[06:55] <jende> Jucato: ooops...didn't get that bit...i need coffee
[06:55] <edwin_> hi
[06:55] <PiR> nobody for my question ?
[06:55] <jende> dude: now try to install the extracodecs again
[06:55] <jende> PiR: what question?
[06:55] <LjL> PiR: i didn't understand your question
[06:56] <hannaa> Nice. I just installed kubuntu today, and everything worked real nice. then I attempded some updates to v355 and kernel updates.. now I cannot use the auto-updater or the adept, they claim that some other process is using the packaging system.. what to do?
[06:56] <LjL> !adept-crash-fix
[06:56] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[06:57] <PiR> I've a package for the library Qt (C++)
[06:57] <_morphius> how can I find the size of a raw (unpartitioned) disk?
[06:57] <PiR> But I don't know the version of this package
[06:57] <jende> hannaa: to get a console you have to press ALT+F2
[06:57] <LjL> _morphius: in many ways i suppose, but for instance, cfdisk tells you
[06:57] <jende> and the type in commandline konsole
[06:57] <_morphius> CTRL+ALT+F2
[06:57] <_morphius> But not with kubuntu
[06:57] <PiR> it is Qt4 but Qt4.0.0 or Qt4.2.0 ?
[06:58] <LjL> PiR: to know what version of a package you have installed, you can type "apt-cache policy <packagename>"
[06:58] <PiR> ok tkanks
[06:58] <hannaa> ok.. the console seems to be in action now, installing and so on..
[06:58] <shinobi> in kubuntu alt f2 and type konsole for konsole
[06:59] <jende> hannaa: good, keep us updated if the problem got solved
[06:59] <_morphius> LjL: I really need something I can grep. I am doing scripting. Any other suggestions?
[06:59] <hannaa> sure thing!
[06:59] <LjL> _morphius: fdisk
[06:59] <LjL> _morphius: fdisk -l that is
[06:59] <jende> _morphius: man fdisk
[06:59] <shinobi> to avoid those seize ups it seems synaptic is better because adept and adept updater don't show you when an install needs attention and fails instead
[07:00] <gragusa> is anybody on edgy-eft on an ibm thinkpad (x40)
[07:00] <_morphius> so how can I convert from blocks to MB
[07:00] <hannaa> yup! the updater works, thanks ubotu!
[07:00] <LjL> _morphius: it gives me bytes gere
[07:00] <LjL> here
[07:00] <LjL> _morphius: Disk /dev/hda: 163.9 GB, 163928604672 bytes
[07:00] <hannaa> now to the next question.. :)
[07:00] <jende> LjL: same here
[07:00] <jende> hannaa: yep...
[07:01] <jende> dude: did it work?
[07:01] <hannaa> when I click the system menu, down left, i get "twins" of all locations, for example 2 home folders.. what's that about?
[07:01] <dude> jende: my adept manager won't open
[07:01] <_morphius> ljl: I get:  /dev/hda1   *           1        2433    19543041    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:01] <jende> dude: do it on a console
[07:02] <LjL> _morphius: but that's a single partition. you asked about the entire, raw disk
[07:02] <harmental> how to open a port in kubuntu?
[07:02] <jende> !adept-crash-fix
[07:02] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:02] <dude> jende: whats the command
[07:02] <_morphius> right.
[07:02] <dude> sudo what?
[07:02] <jende> dude: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:02] <shinobi> yeah but in a console it sucks sometimes synaptic is good unless you get the lock ups...i like gui on some stuff
[07:03] <LjL> _morphius: if you want to know about single partitions, you don't even need fdisk, just use df
[07:03] <dude> i have to reboot, tnx
[07:03] <jende> dude: why?
[07:03] <_morphius> OK. That will work. Thanks ljl
[07:03] <dude> jende: its telling me that adept is running
[07:04] <dude> jende: but theres no icon that indicates adept is running
[07:04] <jende> dude: okay then, keep rockin'
[07:04] <Jucato> dude: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:05] <dude> jucato: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[07:05] <jende> dude:
[07:05] <jende> !adept-cras-fix
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-cras-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <jende> !adept-crash-fix
[07:05] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:05] <jende> dude: do that ^^^^^^^^^
[07:05] <dude> k
[07:07] <dude> E: Type '01.' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:07] <dude> 01. deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[07:07] <jende> dude: might be true uncomment it with a hash#
[07:07] <Jucato> dude: ugh... you copied the line numbers..
[07:08] <Jucato> jende: he also copied the line numbers from pastebin
[07:08] <dude> :)
[07:08] <dude> sorry
[07:08] <jende> Jucato: Jesus
[07:08] <dude> my mistake
[07:08] <Jucato> nah. it's the copy-paste mentality at work :)
[07:08] <dude> :)
[07:08] <dude> slow
[07:09] <jende> Jucato: that again is true
[07:09] <jende> Jucato: back in a min need my coffee
[07:09] <dude> jucato: should i romve the line #s?
[07:09] <Jucato> dude: yes
[07:09] <shinobi> copy paste is not evil no?
[07:10] <Jucato> lines in sources.list should only start with "deb","deb-src", or "#" (hash mark/comments)
[07:10] <jende> Jucato: I'm back with a nice mug of coffee...yummie
[07:10] <Jucato> heh I need to get me some OJ
[07:11] <jende> Jucato: you better do that...*g*
[07:11] <cpk2> coffee ugh
[07:11] <cpk2> evil
[07:11] <jende> cpk2: its not
[07:12] <cpk2> i remember when i worked at an eletronics manufacturer I would choke that stuff down so I wouldnt fall asleep working
[07:12] <cpk2> its bad to start dozing off when soldering
[07:13] <dude> jucato: Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:13] <cpk2> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:13] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:13] <cpk2> and with that time for class
[07:14] <wildchild> !wmware
[07:14] <jende> dude: pastebin the whole output
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <Jucato> !vmware
[07:14] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[07:14] <Jucato> wildchild: ^^^^
[07:14] <wildchild> tnx
[07:15] <dude> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27106
[07:16] <dude> jende: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27106
[07:17] <Jucato> hm... interesting... I'm clueless :)
[07:17] <jende> dude: I'm surprised that you did get such a bad result
[07:17] <jende> Jucato: he doesn't have to have xine installed, does he?
[07:17] <Jucato> dude: if it's not too much to ask, could you pastebin your sources.list again?
[07:17] <Jucato> jende: afaik, no
[07:18] <Jucato> er dude, btw, did you do "sudo apt-get update" first?
[07:18] <dude> jucatu: sure
[07:18] <Jucato> after changing your sources.list and before trying to install libxine-extracodecs?
[07:18] <jende> Jucato: maybe even before you're doing an apt-get update make an apt-get clean
[07:19] <Jucato> dude: did you do "sudo apt-get update" before "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" ?
[07:19] <jende> dude:  maybe even before you're doing an apt-get update make an apt-get clean
[07:19] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get clean"
[07:20] <jende> Jucato: true, I mostly assume that people know that
[07:20] <Jucato> heh
[07:21] <jende> dude: ???are you still with us?
[07:21] <Jucato> dude, where's my car?
[07:21] <Jucato> :)
[07:21] <Jucato> sorry, I just had to say that :P
[07:21] <jende> Jucato: it's here
[07:22] <jende> Jucato: see you in a lil while; have to head off to the supermarket to get some food...*g*
[07:22] <Jucato> err...
[07:22] <Jucato> you're leaving me alone...
[07:22] <Jucato> I'll be gone in a few minutes as well... it's almost 1:30am...
[07:22] <jende> Jucato: will be back in lets say 15mins
[07:22] <Jucato> ah ok. I'll wait then. we can't leave the channel orphaned :P
[07:22] <jende> Jucato: thanx mate
[07:23] <Jucato> hm.. dude_ ? are you dude?
[07:23] <dude_> yes
[07:23] <Jucato> what happened?
[07:23] <dude_> discon
[07:23] <Jucato> oh
[07:24] <yacoob> As noone in #ubuntu is able to answer - does [k] ubuntu install iso supports lvm?
[07:25] <Jucato> yacoob: which Install ISO? Desktop (Live CD) or Alternate Install CD?
[07:25] <doml> yacoob, iirc, you can do it from the alternate install
[07:25] <yacoob> The first one.
[07:25] <dude_> jucato: whats wrong with my sources.kist
[07:25] <Jucato> yacoob: then no. only the Alternate Install (text based) CD has LVM
[07:25] <dude_> jucato: whats wrong with my sources.list
[07:26] <SBlade> can someone help me with a little problem i have with an NV18 class card, the nvidia driver, and X11?
[07:26] <yacoob> I already have a disk full of lvm volumes, and I'd rather use it, than have to backup ~80GB of stuff :)
[07:26] <Jucato> dude_: did you do "sudo apt-get update" first before trying to install libxine-extracodecs?
[07:26] <yacoob> Jucato, allrighto. Download time :)
[07:26] <dude_> jucato: i did
[07:26] <yacoob> (aw, and I thought this nice and shiny gift from a friend would do. No worries... :)
[07:27] <Jucato> dude_: can you post your sources.list again?
[07:27] <dude_> k
[07:28] <dude_> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27112
[07:28] <letalis> has anyone had issues getting a cdrom drive to work properly in a chroot?
[07:28] <mini_g> what is the command to reset the lock on apt-get?
[07:29] <Jucato> mini_g: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:29] <Jucato> dude_: you didn't add "multiverse" to this line: "deb http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"
[07:29] <T3hWiz0rd> so whats going on in here eh?
[07:29] <yacoob> but in the meantime, I can do a test instalation to see whether I like kubuntu or not :)
[07:29] <dude_> ok
[07:30] <Jucato> dude_: just add "multiverse" at the end. do not replace "multiverse"
[07:30] <mini_g> jucato it didn't work
[07:30] <Jucato> mini_g: what error message are you getting?
[07:31] <Jucato> mini_g: basically, what happened?
[07:31] <mini_g> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[07:31] <Jucato> !adept-crash-fix
[07:31] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:31] <Jucato> mini_g: try that ^^^^^
[07:32] <mini_g> cool, thanks
[07:32] <mini_g> (works)
[07:33] <wildchild> !wine
[07:33] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:33] <dude_> jucato: at last, tnx : )
[07:33] <Jucato> why hate it? it's a nice media player :P
[07:33] <Jucato> dude_: whew!! glad to hear that :)
[07:34] <dude_> jucato: question, what is your assesment with my box that didn't boot?
[07:34] <Jucato> dude_: not really sure. didn't hear your full story abou it
[07:35] <Jucato> s/abou/about
[07:35] <dude_> jucato: its just that my box didn't boot: "no boot device detected"
[07:36] <Jucato> dude_: you were able to get past the GRUB menu?
[07:36] <dude_> jucatu: nop
[07:36] <xst> How do I use my webcam in an MSN chat? I can see that it works in Configure>Devices, but nothing happens when I press "send webcam" in the chat window. And when I exit the configuration window, my webcam seems to turn off (its little led is turning off). What to do?
[07:37] <dude_> jucatu: just plain message
[07:37] <Jucato> dude_: hm... not really sure what happened then. sorry
[07:37] <dude_> jucato: maybe the boot loader
[07:37] <dude_> !java
[07:37] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:37] <Jucato> most probably.
[07:39] <dude_> jucato: im still thinking about beryl, what is your suggestion?
[07:39] <Jucato> err... no suggestion.haven't used it
[07:39] <dude_> jucato: ok, tnx
[07:40] <jende> Jucato: I'm back
[07:40] <Jucato> oh there yay!!
[07:41] <dude_> jucato: how about ftp application? can you suggest a cool ftp app
[07:41] <Jucato> now I can get to sleep and hope my flu goes away when I wake up...
[07:41] <jende> Jucato: I've been speeding like hell
[07:41] <Jucato> dude_: konqueror :)
[07:41] <Jucato> jende: oh no...  :(
[07:41] <Jucato> jende: btw, libxine-extracodecs successfully installed :)
[07:41] <jende> Jucato: thats okay at this time there no cops around
[07:41] <jende> Jucato: thats good
[07:41] <dude_> jende: ya, tnx
[07:42] <jende> Jucato: any other issues so far you've been workung on and I should take care of?
[07:42] <jende> dude_: for ftp-upload I prefer krusader
[07:42] <Jucato> !krusader
[07:42] <ubotu> krusader: Twin-panel (commander-style) File Manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.60.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1940 kB, installed size 5280 kB
[07:42] <dude_> download/upload?
[07:42] <Jucato> although you could also use Konqueror and just split the view :)
[07:43] <Jucato> both
[07:43] <jende> dude_: sudo apt-get install krusader
[07:43] <jende> Jucato: mate, go to bed...
[07:44] <Jucato> heh I will. just a few more feeds to read
[07:44] <ejs> my firefox freeze suddenly
[07:44] <ejs> what am i supose to do
[07:44] <dude_> jende: its like windows when it crash, you to install evrything again
[07:44] <dude_> jende: its like windows when it crash, you have to install evrything again
[07:44] <jende> ejs: how does it freeze?
[07:46] <ejs> i just open friendster.com but it does have alot css and music and video in it
[07:46] <Jucato> ugh!!!
[07:46] <ejs> it just freeze wont be shut
[07:46] <Jucato> Friendster, the site I love to hate...
[07:46] <jende> ejs: to be honest I hate such sites
[07:46] <ejs> i know
[07:46] <Jucato> ejs: Ctrl+Esc will bring up the System Monitor (ala Task Manager)
[07:47] <Jucato> jende: honestly, I do too. except that I have some friends/neighbors who adore it. so I take advantage of the network (specially the blog part)
[07:47] <dude_> what is the command if i have installed the right video card driver?
[07:47] <jende> ejs: are you on dapper or on edgy?
[07:48] <Jucato> dude_: depends on what video card you have
[07:48] <jende> dude_: depends...
[07:48] <dude_> nvidia
[07:49] <larson9999> how is kde 3.5.5? should i upgrade?
[07:49] <Jucato> ok, I'm outta here! :)
[07:49] <dude_> jende: have you tried beryl?
[07:49] <jende> !nvidia
[07:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:49] <Jucato> night jende :)
[07:49] <dude_> tnx jucato
[07:49] <ejs> how do i do to known which repo i use ?
[07:49] <Jucato> dude_: night! :)
[07:49] <dude_> nyt..
[07:49] <jende> Jucato: sleep well ang get healthy soon
[07:49] <Jucato> thanks
[07:49] <jende> Jucato: sleep well and get healthy soon
[07:49] <abattoir> night Jucato
[07:50] <jende> Jucato: see ya tomorrow?
[07:50] <abattoir> jende: yeah, he'll be back, don't worry ;)
[07:50] <ejs> mine in uname -a PREEMPT
[07:50] <jende> ejs: sudo less /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:51] <dude_> jende: have you tried beryl?
[07:51] <jende> dude_: nope, I friend of mine did and his system crashed
[07:51] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Hmm strange
[07:51] <jende> dude_: nope, a friend of mine did and his system crashed
[07:51] <nikkiana> DaSkreech: huh?
[07:51] <dude_> jende: ok...how about 3d testing, is there a command?
[07:52] <jende> dude_: dunno, really
[07:52] <ejs> i saw dapper when i do that
[07:52] <dude_> !3d
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <yacoob> Ohboy!
[07:52] <dude_> !3D
[07:52] <yacoob> Ralink configuration hell! Welcome back!
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <jende> ejs: nothing but the dapper repos?
[07:53] <jende> yacoob: whats the prob with ralink?
[07:53] <letalis> does the kernel that comes stock with ubuntu have nvidias fb device compiled in by default?
[07:53] <yacoob> jende, doesn't work out of the box, and I fail to remember how I played it out in debian :)
[07:54] <yacoob> (plus, I moved from wpa to wpa2, and rt2500.o doesn't support that, AFAIR)
[07:54] <ejs> there'all commented with #
[07:54] <ibert> Anybody knows how to get olsr running on kubuntu?
[07:54] <jende> yacoob: well wpa2 wont be supported by an2500, thats true
[07:54] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: I went away and came back and your name was on the  input line
[07:54] <ejs> mine exist only dapper
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Apparetnly I had something to say to you or I was thining about you :()
[07:54] <nikkiana> DaSkreech: ahhh :)
[07:55] <jende> yacoob: need a howto to get it running?
[07:55] <yacoob> jende, even with ndiswrapper?
[07:55] <yacoob> jende, well, if it's only wpa, I can work it out
[07:55] <yacoob> I'd need to poke my router first :)
[07:55] <jende> yacoob: with ndiswrapper it should work, but the rt2500 should work even without ndiswrapper
[07:55] <jende> yacoob: but not with wpa2
[07:56] <yacoob> righto.
[07:56] <yacoob> Lets try ndiswrapper and learn something new ;)
[07:56] <jende> ejs: post your sources.list to pastebin
[07:56] <jende> !pastebin
[07:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:56] <jende> dude_: I couldn't find anything in my books to test3D, sorry
[07:57] <jende> ejs: will you do that?
[07:57] <dude_> jende: ok tnx
[07:57] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: For the life of me I can't remember what it was though
[07:57] <jende> dude_: no worries
[07:57] <micra> Hi, I'm a complete newbie at Kubuntu and Linux. I have 2 sound cards in my computer, how do I switch between them?
[07:57] <yacoob> jende, does the howto says about ndiswrapper? if yes, then I'll ask for the url please :)
[07:57] <DaSkreech> micra: I keep asking that as well
[07:57] <micra> Okay, noone knows?
[07:57] <jende> yacoob: hold on, will check my linklist for ya
[07:58] <micra> no one*
[07:58] <ejs> !pastebin
[07:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:58] <DaSkreech> micra: I'm going to jump into #kde and see if i can find out
[07:58] <ejs> !pastebin
[07:59] <ejs> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[07:59] <ejs> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[07:59] <micra> Okay, thanks
[07:59] <ejs> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[07:59] <ejs> ## distribution.
[07:59] <ejs> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[07:59] <ejs> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[07:59] <ejs> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[07:59] <ejs> ## repository.
[07:59] <ejs> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[07:59] <ejs> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[07:59] <ejs> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[07:59] <ejs> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[07:59] <ejs> ## team.
[07:59] <ejs> # deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[07:59] <ejs> # deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[08:00] <ejs> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[08:00] <DaSkreech> ejs:  Stopit!!
[08:00] <ejs> ## repository.
[08:00] <ejs> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[08:00] <jende> ejs: what the hell
[08:00] <ejs> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[08:00] <ejs> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[08:00] <Martijn81> ejs: cut it please
[08:00] <jende> ejs: I told you to pastebin it
[08:00] <ejs> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[08:00] <ejs> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[08:00] <ejs> # deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:00] <ejs> # deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:00] <ejs> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[08:00] <ejs> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[08:00] <ejs> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[08:00] <ejs> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[08:00] <ejs> sorry
[08:00] <ejs> i must wrongly paste
[08:00] <ejs> sorry to all
[08:00] <fdoving> :)
[08:01] <jende> yacoob: that's a good howto I guess, if not get back ti me, okay
[08:01] <jende> yacoob: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[08:01] <jende> ejs: so, just pastebin it
[08:01] <jende> !pastebi
[08:01] <jende> !pastebin
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:01] <yacoob> thanks :>
[08:01] <jende> !pastebin
[08:01] <jende> ejs: ^^^^^^^^
[08:02] <ejs> sorry mates
[08:02] <jende> ejs: so, will you pastebin it now?
[08:02] <ejs> i have post it
[08:02] <DaSkreech> ejs: Use pastebin and give us teh URL that it returns
[08:02] <jende> ejs: where is the link, though
[08:03] <ejs> !pastebin
[08:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:03] <DaSkreech> copy and paste the address in the address bar
[08:03] <jende> yacoob: is the howto alright for ya?
[08:03] <ejs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27113/
[08:04] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27113/
[08:04] <DaSkreech> RIght Like that :)
[08:04] <DaSkreech> thanks
[08:04] <jende> DaSkreech: will you modify it or should I go ahead
[08:04] <yacoob> jende, think so. Will have to adjust for chipset (ralink, not broadcom) but I remember I played with it already.
[08:04] <DaSkreech> jende: I don't know waht the issue is
[08:05] <yacoob> it's just I falled back to wpa then. When I tried osx (aka hackintosh :) it worked only with wpa2, so I pitched up ;)
[08:05] <jende> DaSkreech: ejs wants to have universe multiverse in the sources - so 'll modify it quickly
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Ok
[08:05] <JosefK> heh, and network-manager updates in Edgy can unexpectedly shut down your net ;)
[08:06] <DaSkreech> ejs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27115/
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Ues that
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Use
[08:07] <jende> ejs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27116/
[08:08] <DaSkreech> Or that :)
[08:08] <jende> DaSkreech: ;-)
[08:08] <jende> ejs: BUT don't paste&copy the line numbers
[08:08] <DaSkreech> use /plain
[08:08] <DaSkreech> ejs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27115/plain
[08:09] <jende> ejs: each line hast to start with deb or a hash #
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Not true
[08:09] <jende> ejs: or use the plain version
[08:09] <DaSkreech> it can start with deb-src
[08:09] <DaSkreech> :)
[08:09] <JosefK> test using dcop
[08:09] <JosefK> woot :)
[08:09] <jende> DaSkreech: but deb-src starts with deb...doesn't it
[08:10] <ejs> okey
[08:10] <DaSkreech> So I can type debra ?
[08:10] <jende> ejs: you know what to do now?
[08:10] <jende> DaSkreech: ahhhhhhhhhhh
[08:10] <ejs> stable an testing from debian can use too ?:
[08:10] <DaSkreech> Heeheehee
[08:10] <jende> DaSkreech: grrrrrrrrrr
[08:10] <jende> ejs: no
[08:12] <jende> ejs: after you have modfied your sources.list as SUDO, you will have to make a: "sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:13] <kubuntu> wie heisst eigentlich der deutsche kubuntu channel?
[08:13] <LjL> !de
[08:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:13] <ejs> yup
[08:14] <jende> ejs: done that?
[08:15] <ejs> there are err in repo
[08:15] <jende> ejs: like what?
[08:16] <ejs> am i suppose to delete rc from th repos in the 1'st line
[08:16] <ejs> E: Type 'rc' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:17] <PiR> hello
[08:17] <jende> ejs: well you've deletetd to much
[08:17] <PiR> is it normal, the Qt installation takes more than 1 hours ? o_O
[08:17] <jende> ejs: pastebin your sources once more if its possible for you
[08:17] <LjL> PiR: what do you mean with "qt installation"?
[08:18] <PiR> I've downloaded the QT4.2.0 library sources
[08:18] <PiR> and i've made ./configure
[08:19] <PiR> next i've typed make
[08:19] <jende> PiR: that'll take quite a while, yes
[08:19] <PiR> and 1 hours ago
[08:19] <jende> ejs: hello?
[08:19] <LjL> PiR: good luck...
[08:20] <robin_> i have mounted my xp partition but it keeps saying i dont have rights to view when i try to access, any idea's?
[08:20] <LjL> PiR: note that 4.2.0 is in Edgy, so perhaps you could just wait until it's out? (i.e. couple of days)
[08:21] <Heavenquake> i am having trouble with wireless in kubuntu, after some struggle i am now able to see the wanted network on the list in both KNetworkmanager and wlassistant. But when i try to connect, i fail. KNetworkmanager fails after 28% : configuring unit. i am from Windows now, so i would like some hints to what i should do when i reboot in kubuntu
[08:21] <DaSkreech> micra: Apparetnly as it stands now it's done on a perapplication basis
[08:21] <DaSkreech> !wireless
[08:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:22] <jende> ejs: Ping!
[08:22] <jende> robin_: have a look at:
[08:22] <jende> !mount
[08:22] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[08:22] <jende> or
[08:22] <jende> !mnt
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mnt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <jende> on a console type: man mount
[08:23] <jende> robin_: did you get that?
[08:25] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:25] <jende> slow-motion: Hi
[08:25] <slow-motion> hi jende
[08:27] <morghanphoenix> Don't suppose anyone happens to know what path hold my kubuntu passwords, mail and other personal data?
[08:27] <PiR> LjL : Edgy is in devlopment, isn't it ?
[08:27] <jende> PiR: yes
[08:27] <morghanphoenix> for another 9 days
[08:28] <PiR> ah ? good
[08:28] <morghanphoenix> It is the 26th, yes?
[08:28] <jende> PiR: duuno if LjL will agree, but I think its already quite stable
[08:28] <jende> morghanphoenix: yep, its the 26th
[08:28] <DaSkreech> Yes I do smoke crack why do you ask?
[08:29] <dude> !java
[08:29] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:29] <jende> dude: are you familiar with "apt"?
[08:29] <PiR> the update is possible ? Or will i must all reinstall ?
[08:30] <jende> PiR: it'll be a simple upgrade
[08:30] <PiR> tkanks
[08:30] <jende> PiR: no worries
[08:30] <T3hWiz0rd> is there a way to terminate a users session via konsole?
[08:30] <jende> dude: so, are you failiar with "apt" or not?
[08:31] <cellofellow> T3hWiz0rd: You can kill the X server running on their terminal and that logs them off.
[08:31] <wildchild> at the beginnig of setup process I was asked: n which directory do you want to install the binary files? (next line):[/usr/bin] 
[08:31] <dude> jende: getting the hang of it
[08:31] <ejs> jende
[08:31] <wildchild> I am installing vmware
[08:31] <jende> dude: why?
[08:31] <dude> jende: how do i enable my instlled jre
[08:32] <ejs> ihave apt-get install but not the dist-upgrade
[08:32] <T3hWiz0rd> cellofellow: how?
[08:32] <salvo> www.google.it
[08:32] <jende> dude: ??? what dou mean???
[08:32] <cellofellow> T3hWiz0rd: ps -A | grep X to find the process number, then sudo kill number
[08:32] <TheGateKeeper> dude: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:32] <dude> jende: i installed JRE so that frostwire can run
[08:32] <jende> ejs: simply do it as I said sudo apt-get updare && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:33] <ejs> i think i will have to  reboot so its better to called it a day :)
[08:33] <steveire> Are there obscure proxy settings I don't know about? I don't use a proxy at home, but when I bring my laptop into college and want to use a K app like kontact or konqueror I have to go into settings, proxy etc. I'd like that if network-manager connects to ESSID"collegenetwork", it would apply "proxy.college.com:8888"
[08:33] <steveire> automatically that is...
[08:33] <jende> TheGateKeeper: howdy
[08:34] <TheGateKeeper> jende: hiya
[08:34] <jende> ejs: you dont have to reboot; its not a redmond infected system
[08:34] <TheGateKeeper> lol
[08:34] <jende> TheGateKeeper: why do people always want to reboot their system?
[08:35] <jende> TheGateKeeper: I just don't get it
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> jende: M$ conditioning
[08:35] <jende> TheGateKeeper: ah well, iit seem to be that that crap is as worth as heroine is
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> jende: cos if you doing anything with windows you need to reboot
[08:35] <jende> TheGateKeeper: I remember that, but thats like ages ago
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> jende: seems to be as addictive lol
[08:36] <dude> jende: what is nvidia beta?
[08:36] <_morphius> TheGateKeeper: It's not just that. PEBCAKS don't want to have to learn how to restart a service and crap like that, so re-booting is easier.
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> jende: you still get updates that insist on a reboot from time to time
[08:36] <jende> _morphius: damn right you are
[08:37] <_morphius> TheGateKeeper: Those are kernel updates
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> jende: yep that is also true
[08:37] <jende> TheGateKeeper: sure, but these are the only updates I knonw of when you have to reboot
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> _morphius: with windows not sure if that is always true
[08:37] <jende> dude: what do you think beta means?
[08:38] <dude> jende: ok
[08:38] <jende> dude: it is not stable, it is in testing or experimental - as a newbie keep your fingers of stuff like that
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> windows is getting a little better with their reboots but no much
[08:39] <dude> jende: so how should i know if i installed the right video card driver ?
[08:39] <cellofellow> dude: unless it's a Google beta. :D
[08:39] <dude> :)
[08:39] <jende> dude: as long as it works
[08:39] <TheGateKeeper> jende: you have a lovely 'turn of phrase' lol
[08:40] <jende> TheGateKeeper: what do you mean?
[08:40] <dude> !nvidia
[08:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:40] <TheGateKeeper> jende:  keep your fingers of stuff like that <-- I like that :-)
[08:40] <jende> TheGateKeeper: was it toooooooooooooo bad?
[08:40] <jende> :-(
[08:40] <TheGateKeeper> jende: no amusing
[08:41] <steveire> who can tell me what iptables are?
[08:41] <jende> steveire: google
[08:41] <ibert> steveire: it's an firewall
[08:41] <wildchild> steveire > network configuration
[08:41] <TheGateKeeper> steveire: linux firewall is the easiest way to explain what they are
[08:42] <fdoving> steveire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iptables
[08:42] <TheGateKeeper> steveire: there are gui frontends for them
[08:42] <steveire> I think someone on #ubuntu said they were a way to get around my proxy issue, but he didn't expand on it.
[08:42] <steveire> Are there obscure proxy settings I don't know about? I don't use a proxy at home, but when I bring my laptop into college and want to use a K app like kontact or konqueror I have to go into settings, proxy etc. I'd like that if network-manager connects to ESSID"collegenetwork", it would apply "proxy.college.com:8888" automatically
[08:43] <steveire> If that's possible with iptables, could you let me know?
[08:43] <jende> steveire: iptables is, as said a firewall, so I guess that iptables wont solve your proxy issues
[08:44] <steveire> I guess my issue is more one of automation than a proxy issue really. Is it possible?
[08:44] <fdoving> steveire: you can actually use iptables to 'catch' all http connections, and force them through a proxy, might be exactly what you want.
[08:45] <steveire> fdoving: Can it be done only when I connect to 'collegenet' and not 'homeNet'?
[08:45] <jende> fdoving: you're right that might be a way for him; I forgot about that
[08:45] <fdoving> steveire: that should be possible.
[08:46] <jende> steveire: the manpages shoult tell you more
[08:46] <jende> steveire: man iptables
[08:46] <ejs> i have upgrade my ubuntu
[08:46] <wildchild> I've installed vmwplayer, why I can't install .exe files..
[08:46] <steveire> man:/iptables
[08:47] <fdoving> steveire: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/TransparentProxy.html#s5
[08:47] <jende> steveire: just "man iptables"
[08:47] <jende> ejs: and?
[08:47] <ejs> but the firefox still freeze if i open friendster.com with lots css video and music
[08:47] <steveire> jende: I mean you can use konqueror to see man pages.
[08:48] <fdoving> jende: man:/iptables is nicer than the konsole way :)
[08:48] <jende> ejs: hmmm...might be worth havin a chat in a FF channel or forum
[08:48] <steveire> thanks for the link fdoving, but I don't think that's a per network setting.
[08:48] <jende> fdoving: I'm oldschool, sorry
[08:49] <BluesKaj> jende, Ihave some progs that won't run on my hardware so i need to uninstall them but they aren't listed in adept ...what's the command line uninstall procedure ?
[08:49] <fdoving> steveire: you'll have to run that command when connecting to the college network, and then flush the iptables rules when disconnecting.
[08:49] <jende> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get remove <filename>
[08:49] <steveire> fdoving: Can it be automated? Otherwise I don't see the point.
[08:49] <BluesKaj> remove ...that's it thx , jende
[08:50] <jende> BluesKaj: *ggg*
[08:51] <jende> ejs: have you made a memtest?
[08:51] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj: you might also want to use debophan but *use with care*
[08:51] <jende> ejs: and if you do make it, let it run for a few hours
[08:52] <jende> TheGateKeeper: deborphan...huh...he really should use that with a lot of care
[08:53] <jende> BluesKaj: but aptitude might be nice
[08:53] <fdoving> steveire: it's linux, everything can be automated. :)
[08:54] <steveire> Ok, can you tell me where to start finding out how? I'm really surprised this hasn't come up before.
[08:54] <TheGateKeeper> jende: true I have never really trusted it
[08:55] <glsk> hello folks
[08:55] <glsk> I cant safely remove my usb stick
[08:55] <jende> TheGateKeeper: a client of mine played once on Deb Sarge with it...hehe...was agood job afterwards for me to get the system back to work
[08:55] <glsk> I need to umount drive manually
[08:55] <glsk> why?
[08:56] <root> jende: my xwindow crashes again :)
[08:56] <TheGateKeeper> jende: :-)
[08:56] <buz> glsk: what do you mean? what happens if you hit safely remove
[08:56] <glsk> buz: nothing
[08:56] <buz> i dont think it is supposed to unmount it, just sync it
[08:57] <buz> if theres a lot in the cache, safely remove takes a long time for me
[08:57] <glsk> buz: it worked before
[08:57] <dude> jende; how do i restore x window?
[08:57] <buz> after that the data is saved for me
[08:57] <morghanphoenix> I manage to have quite a few sdas hanging around if I don't manually mount my usb drives.
[08:57] <jende> dude: restore or restart?
[08:57] <LjL> jenda, it's the #ubuntu+1 *channel topic* that says edgy isn't stable, not me.
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> jende: you've been linux using for a long time?
[08:57] <buz> LjL: it mostly isnt stable ;)
[08:57] <dude> jende: resatart
[08:58] <jende> TheGateKeeper: I had a break in my ***IX time, as I had a burnout
[08:58] <jende> TheGateKeeper: I was for more than 2yrs in Aussie and worked on a farm
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> ahhh
[08:59] <jende> TheGateKeeper: buut I'm back since last year and I'm back in the ***IX world...hehe....
[08:59] <TheGateKeeper> hehe
[08:59] <killer_> why is konqueror broken? I cannot change user agent, ... it can access the panel to change it but it does not save
[08:59] <dude> jende:
[08:59] <jende> dude: start x
[09:00] <dude> where should i type that, im using irss
[09:00] <nawolfe> is it possible to install a .deb from a non-root account (install it in my home dir)?
[09:00] <glsk> buz: 1. umount /dev/sdb1 && sync ??
[09:00] <glsk> is it enough?
[09:00] <buz> umount itself should be enough
[09:00] <glsk> *enought?
[09:00] <jende> dude: on a console type: sudo start x
[09:00] <glsk> oh okay
[09:00] <glsk> thanks
[09:00] <cpk2> hehe just rm -r * a pretty big directory =P
[09:00] <dude> jemde: there's no console
[09:01] <cpk2> still going...
[09:01] <jende> dude: serously?
[09:01] <buz> cpk2: relax, i trashed the partition with my home dir last week ;)
[09:01] <buz> (unless you dont have backups, then scream ;)
[09:02] <cpk2> this is just a samba partition
[09:02] <buz> your boss' homedir ;)
[09:02] <dude> jende: im serious,  x window won't start, so i choose recovery mode
[09:02] <cpk2> takes forever to rm stuff though
[09:02] <dude> jende: then irss
[09:02] <killer_> I can change Browser Agent if I "sudo konqueror" , but this is a real joy.. the thought of web browsing as root.. I think not
[09:03] <cpk2> rm -r * feels good when you do it =D
[09:03] <cpk2> especially from a root loging *nothing* escapes
[09:03] <cpk2> login even
[09:03] <LjL> cpk2, you know you shouldn't type that... people can and would actually try it out
[09:04] <wildchild> tralala, what does vmware player? (I wanna on my linux some windows program running)
[09:04] <cpk2> I wasnt suggesting...
[09:04] <jende> dude: what do you need irss for?
[09:04] <cpk2> note to anyone paying attention: dont do rm -r * unless you know what you are doing
[09:05] <fdoving> steveire: my suggestion was plain stupid. it would create a loop since it's just one computer. you can stop reading iptables stuff. what browser do you use?
[09:05] <jende> LjL: shouldn't people know what "-r" means?
[09:05] <LjL> i know you weren't, but you know people are curious :)
[09:05] <morghanphoenix> what is the -r tag for?
[09:05] <cpk2> recursive
[09:05] <LjL> jende: they should. in a perfect world, they'd just type "man rm" and find out, but in *this* world, some of them are likely to just type that command to see what it does
[09:05] <jende> -r = recursive
[09:05] <cpk2> means it will remove non empty directories
[09:06] <jende> LjL: they'll have fun afterwards, wont they?
[09:06] <cpk2> well in a home directory it will do some very bad things
[09:06] <jende> cpk2: I know that, I was just kidding
[09:06] <jende> LjL: sorry for that
[09:06] <LjL> jende: depends on one's concept of fun i suppose!
[09:07] <jende> LjL: I'm quite sarcastic, as you could see
[09:07] <cpk2> =( sometime overnight the ubuntu server iso i was downloading stopped
[09:08] <cpk2> I have a .part file with only 76 megs
[09:08] <keyne> hi guys
[09:08] <jende> cpk2: why is that?
[09:09] <cpk2> hrmm I suppose I should just wait for edgy anyways
[09:09] <jende> cpk2: oh, I see cause of that .part file, I guess
[09:09] <keyne> the bouncing cursor is driving crazy ? how to disable it on edgy ? (Seems like the Panel section in the System settings is gone...)
[09:09] <cpk2> waiting until the end of the month will give me time to figure out how I want to set up my lamp exactly
[09:09] <cellofellow> keyne: just use kcontrol
[09:09] <blueyed> Hi! Does anyone know what the "Hibernate" and "Suspend" buttons execute/do in the "Log out..." dialog in Edgy?
[09:09] <keyne> ah ok, thanks
[09:10] <BluesKaj> i guess usr/bin files are inaccessible for removal ...correct ?
[09:10] <dude> pls help me, i cn't start x window
[09:10] <jende> dude: what do you need irss for?
[09:10] <wildchild> !wine
[09:10] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:10] <dude> jende: to get some help
[09:10] <BluesKaj> have you tried startx ?
[09:11] <dude> bluesKaj: yes, no screen detected
[09:11] <jende> dude: okay, so far
[09:11] <BluesKaj> ouch
[09:11] <dude> bluesKaj: :(
[09:12] <jende> dude: so, you said, you're in the recovery mode, riht?
[09:12] <jende> dude: so, you said, you're in the recovery mode, right?
[09:12] <dude> ya
[09:12] <jende> dude: well, you're logged in as root?
[09:12] <cpk2> oh guess it finished after all didnt refresh konq to show upated info in my home
[09:12] <dude> yes
[09:13] <jende> all drives are mounted?have you checked that?
[09:13] <killer_> where are the konqueror settings .. I need to UN-set them from ROOT-ONLY write
[09:13] <jende> dude: just type "mount"
[09:13] <dude> where should i type mount?
[09:14] <jende> dude at the prompt
[09:14] <dude> thers no console
[09:14] <dude> no prompt
[09:14] <jende> dude: what do you have?
[09:14] <dude> just plain txt
[09:15] <jende> dude: give me like 3 mins I'll be back by then, okay!Just wanna try something for you
[09:15] <dude> ok
[09:15] <dude> tnx
[09:15] <PiR> Qt is installing 2hours ago now ! o_O I don't understand this low speed
[09:16] <aether> eh, My bob marley albums (33) have been transfering from my step dads hdd for the last 4 hours still has another 9 to go
[09:16] <morghanphoenix> Aren't dead x-servers fun?
[09:16] <Abby> Can I get Firefox or Gaim on Kubuntu without manually installing them?
[09:17] <trym|work> when I did dist-upgrade to edgy.. my win button on the keyboard does no longer work.. any ideas how to fix it ?
[09:17] <morghanphoenix> firefox should allready be there
[09:17] <morghanphoenix> It's not on yours?
[09:17] <Hawkwind> Abby: sudo apt-get install firefox gaim
[09:17] <fdoving> Abby: yes, you can find them in adept. 'kmenu -> system -> adept'
[09:17] <Abby> it's greyed out. I can't install it. And I can't seem to find it if it's installed
[09:18] <Hawkwind> Abby: You can get most any package you want.  Though you will find some that aren't in the repos, but it's difficult to find those that aren't
[09:18] <morghanphoenix> well, the command line thing should work
[09:18] <Hawkwind> Abby: You need to enable universe and multiverse
[09:18] <Hawkwind> Though firefox is actually in main, so you should be able to install it
[09:19] <morghanphoenix> And there's Kopete
[09:19] <morghanphoenix> same job as gaim
[09:19] <BluesKaj> aMSN works well too
[09:19] <Abby> how do I add repositories in Kubuntu? I've only used Ubuntu with gnome before and this feels very foriegn XD
[09:19] <Hawkwind> IMO gaim is much better than kopete and amsn or any others
[09:19] <Hawkwind> !repos > Abby
[09:19] <morghanphoenix> But kopete should allready be there
[09:20] <Hawkwind> morghanphoenix: But they want Gaim.  Tis their choice :)
[09:20] <morghanphoenix> Just stating it in case they didn't know what kopete was.
[09:20] <morghanphoenix> Some people don't know anything other than gaim
[09:21] <morghanphoenix> it does, after all, work well in windows.
[09:21] <Abby> indeed. This is an install for a user that's never even heard of Linux before for the three weeks between Windows foobarring and a new computer. XD I need it to feel the most like windows I can.
[09:21] <granbar> Hey there. I'm having some trouble connecting to my wireless network.
[09:22] <morghanphoenix> Then gaim it is, although that's the main reason I don't use it.
[09:22] <granbar> Does anybody know why I both have wlan0 and wmaster0 ?
[09:22] <morghanphoenix> Ever seen XPde?
[09:22] <BluesKaj> Abby: yeah it's a slow process rtemoving windows habits
[09:22] <morghanphoenix> Now that's creepy!
[09:23] <morghanphoenix> Looks just like winXP
[09:23] <wildchild> does anyone here use wine?
[09:23] <wildchild> if so, please paste repo
[09:23] <morghanphoenix> If I could get it to work
[09:23] <morghanphoenix> !source-o-matic
[09:23] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:23] <morghanphoenix> has wine
[09:23] <cpk2> wildchild: get the wine repo from winehq
[09:23] <Hawkwind> # Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)
[09:23] <Hawkwind> #deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[09:23] <Hawkwind> wildchild: ^^^^^^^^^^
[09:24] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Is that what you need/want ?
[09:24] <wildchild> yes
[09:24] <jende> BluesKaj: do you know if anyone could help "dude"?
[09:25] <BluesKaj> Hawkwind would be our best bet i think ..he sems to be very knowledgeable and helpful in my expereience
[09:25] <wildchild> damn, wine only works on 32bits..
[09:26] <Hawkwind> wildchild: You can install the 32bit version in a 64bit environment and use it
[09:26] <qihua> hhhhhhhh
[09:26] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: What's the problem/issue ?
[09:27] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, I've booted to Mandriva One, and same problem with that audio stream (http://129.237.213.240/asxgen/wmtencoder/kpr2.wma)
[09:27] <BluesKaj> wildchild , I switched from 64 bits to 32 cuz alotta progs wouldn't run
[09:27] <jhutchins_wk> So it's not kubuntu.
[09:27] <root__> jende: are you there
[09:27] <root__> ?
[09:27] <jende> root__: yep
[09:27] <dude> bad day for me
[09:27] <wildchild> [21:26]  <Hawkwind> wildchild: You can install the 32bit version in a 64bit environment and use it  <-How can I do that o:O
[09:27] <jende> dude: are you still having your plain text screen?
[09:27] <BluesKaj> Hawkwind, the guy "dude" has a problem with getting hid screen up and running
[09:27] <dude> yes
[09:27] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Install it and run it
[09:28] <dude> i cant startx
[09:28] <Hawkwind> wildchild: You can install most any 32bit app in a 64bit OS
[09:28] <jende> dude: it should say something like root@
[09:28] <BluesKaj> wildchild .. I did a clean reinstall
[09:28] <dude> something wrong with my video card driver
[09:28] <jende> dude: does it?
[09:28] <dude> ya
[09:28] <wildchild> BluesKaj how :shy:
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> have you redone the xorg config?
[09:28] <jende> dude: then type mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[09:28] <dude> i think so
[09:29] <dude> theres no console
[09:29] <morghanphoenix> there isn't when you run irssi
[09:29] <BluesKaj> DL the x86 32bit version of kubuntu, burn it and install it
[09:29] <wildchild> :>
[09:29] <cpk2> does konq use a "password manager" like FF does?
[09:29] <dude> b4 i run irssi, there is
[09:29] <wildchild> I thought I can do by apt :P
[09:29] <LjL> cpk2: it uses the standard KDE Wallet
[09:29] <morghanphoenix> Irssi uses your console to run
[09:29] <LjL> cpk2: which is shared by all aother KDE applications that handle passwords
[09:30] <morghanphoenix> hence no prompt while it's running
[09:30] <cpk2> so kde wallet would store all of my passwords for websites?
[09:30] <LjL> cpk2: yes
[09:30] <Abby> should all programs installed be showing up under the K Menu? Or is there another menue I need to add to access them?
[09:30] <dude> how about the alt+f1 or 2?
[09:30] <granbar> Hey. Who don't I have proper permissions to run wlassistant?
[09:30] <LjL> cpk2: when you tell Konqui to remember a password, you should be prompted to create a wallet (if you don't have one already)
[09:30] <Hawkwind> Abby: Depends on how you installed the apps
[09:30] <jende> morghanphoenix: I'd say he should restart in recovery mode and let him go into chroot to fix his box, wouldn't you?
[09:31] <Hawkwind> Abby: If you installed them with Adept/apt-get, then they should eventually show up in the menus, yes
[09:31] <morghanphoenix> Should work
[09:31] <cpk2> LjL: I have a wallet but I have a screenshot from my FF in windows with all my remembered passwords and stuff, so I want to input those in =)
[09:31] <dude> how do i restore xorg.conf?
[09:31] <morghanphoenix> If not he can always log back in to irissi
[09:31] <Hawkwind> dude: sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg
[09:31] <Abby> Hawkwind: some were pre-installed, some were installed using the package manager, but not all of them are showing up.
[09:31] <jende> dude: grab a pen and write down the steps to get into a chroot environment
[09:31] <ejs> sgl is it avail in latest ubuntu ?
[09:31] <jende> dude: have it?
[09:32] <Hawkwind> Abby: You can update your menus, but I forget the command since I don't really use KDE that much at all
[09:32] <dude> just a sec
[09:32] <morghanphoenix> err on the side of caution if need be
[09:32] <cpk2> erhm kdewallet isnt a command
[09:32] <morghanphoenix> My xserver won't run if I tell it how much vram I have
[09:32] <fdoving> Hawkwind: kbuildsycoca
[09:32] <jende> Abby: on a console type apt-get menus
[09:32] <Hawkwind> fdoving: That's it, thanks :)
[09:32] <morghanphoenix> I have to measure my ram in the lowest amount even though I have 16MB
[09:33] <jende> Abby: and then update-menus all as SUDO
[09:33] <jende> dude
[09:33] <dude> k
[09:33] <dude> im ready
[09:34] <Abby> jende: says it's an invalid operation
[09:34] <morghanphoenix> put this down to: sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg
[09:34] <jende> dude: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[09:34] <fdoving> jende: apt-get menus doesn't do anything. if you mean 'apt-get install menu' it will not affect kde menus. it'll just create a submenu named 'Debian' with debian menus.
[09:35] <jende> dude: and then type mount chroot /mnt
[09:35] <Ouaaahhhh> ,
[09:35] <LjL> cpk2: hm, never tried something like that, let me see
[09:35] <morghanphoenix> That's what worked when mine crashed, you have to answer the questions and then type startx
[09:35] <jende> dude
[09:35] <dude> ok
[09:35] <Abby> jende: command not found
[09:35] <dude> how do i exit here?
[09:36] <morghanphoenix> ctrl+c maybe?
[09:36] <fdoving> dude: if you're inside a chroot, you can exit with the 'exit' command.
[09:36] <dude> exit
[09:36] <fdoving> if that's what you mean.
[09:36] <dude> :)
[09:36] <morghanphoenix> irissi I think he means
[09:36] <jende> Abby: I hadn't had enough coffee and I was unfortunately wrong and "fdoving" was right
[09:36] <fdoving> ah.. irssi it's /quit
[09:36] <LjL> cpk2: well, to open the wallet thingie you can just go to a site that requests a password, and a wallet icon will show up in the tray when you tell konqueror to remember it
[09:36] <jende> dude: and then do what morghanphoenix told you
[09:37] <LjL> cpk2: from that icon, you can apparently add entries, but i'm not sure how that's supposed to be done
[09:37] <cpk2> LjL: I found it in kcontrol but I am reading the help file to see what to do
[09:37] <morghanphoenix> One stop shop, easier than trying to do safe mode if it works.
[09:37] <morghanphoenix> That is assuming he knows what's in his computer.
[09:38] <morghanphoenix> I don't know what I would've done if my girlfriend didn't have her windows box on my network.
[09:38] <morghanphoenix> I have wierd monitor settings that I had to look up.
[09:38] <fdoving> livecds :)
[09:38] <cpk2> LjL: I think I got it, right click and open wallet
[09:38] <morghanphoenix> and the web site definatly doesn't work in lynx
[09:39] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: elinks then :)
[09:39] <Abby> fdoving, jende: package is missing? I got that same error trying to install firefox
[09:39] <jende> Abby: how do you install FF?
[09:39] <morghanphoenix> never heard of it
[09:39] <jende> Abby: is universe in your sources.list enabled?
[09:39] <Abby> well, I couldn't install it from the repository, so I tried a command-line install
[09:40] <mattik> Hello. I tried to install jedit, but I hadn't got lucky and now it's half installed and I cannot use apt or dpkg.
[09:40] <fdoving> jende: firefox is in main.
[09:40] <LjL> cpk2: yeah, but then i don't know how entries are supposed to be added (sure, right click on something, and click "New"... but what format should they be in?)
[09:40] <fdoving> Abby: strange. do you get a password prompt when starting adept?
[09:40] <Abby> yeah
[09:41] <fdoving> can you find firefox if you search for it inside adept?
[09:41] <root__> cannot connect to x server, xserver.xorg is not installed
[09:41] <cpk2> LjL: Hrmm it looks like this might be too annoying to do since it looks like the name needs to be the website and you need to specify what field the site would call the username
[09:41] <jende> fdoving: I had it, honestly, just a few weaks ago that my neighbour whom I just convinced to get rid of W$, that he couldn't install FF either til I changed his sources
[09:41] <fdoving> !xconfig
[09:41] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:41] <root__> cannot connect to x server, xserver.xorg is not installed
[09:41] <Abby> fdoving, jende: also, I can't edit my repositories. I looked at the help section and the menu item I'm supposed to select to get there doesn't exist
[09:41] <LjL> cpk2: well that seems reasonable, the browser cannot guess that by itself
[09:41] <fdoving> jende: firefox is still in main. :)
[09:41] <mattik> Could someone say how do I get jedit out of my Kubuntu
[09:41] <cpk2> LjL: guess I will just keep the screenshot read only by me and wait until I have visited all those sites
[09:41] <fdoving> Abby: is this dapper or edgy?
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> I like elinks
[09:42] <cpk2> LjL: I would expect the browser to guess username is "email" or "user" though
[09:42] <Abby> fdoving: the latest version. just installed it a couple days ago
[09:42] <dude> fdoving: cannot connect to x server, xserver.xorg is not installed
[09:42] <jende> fdoving: I know that it is in main, but as I said, I had that funny issue here as well
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> woah
[09:43] <morghanphoenix> That's a new one
[09:43] <LjL> cpk2: hmm that sort of tricks would seem a bit too ad-hoc to me, but yeah, i suppose it could
[09:43] <jende> fdoving: but it's not worth arguing really
[09:43] <cpk2> Abby: dapper is 6.06 and edgy is 6.10 however edgy is still in beta, so latest version doesnt help very much =\
[09:43] <fdoving> Abby: if you open a konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) and execute 'lsb_release -c' what does it say?
[09:43] <Abby> fdoving: I think it's dapper. The computer isn't for me so I wouldn't have installed something in beta
[09:44] <dude> maybe i should re install kubuntu all over again...
[09:44] <fdoving> Abby: can you install other apps from adept? try to install 'mozilla-firefox'.
[09:45] <dude> bad day 4 me
[09:45] <jende> dude: try to install xserver and xorg
[09:45] <dude> :(
[09:45] <fdoving> dude: xserver.xorg is not installed?
[09:45] <jende> dude: while you are in chroot
[09:45] <dude> fdoving: thats the error
[09:45] <mgcj> quit
[09:45] <fdoving> dude: is this inside a chroot? or did you just break your X?
[09:46] <ugresia> where polish irc??
[09:46] <fdoving> !pl
[09:46] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:46] <jende> fdoving: he did just break his X.
[09:46] <Hawkwind> !po
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <mgcj> quit
[09:46] <Hawkwind> !polish
[09:46] <dude> jende: how do i install xserver
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about polish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <fdoving> mgcj: /quit - with the /
[09:46] <Abby> fdoving: that's odd. it thinks firefox is installed, but I can't find it
[09:46] <n00btard> where do i go to install a theme i just DLed?
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[09:46] <Kim^J> KICK!
[09:47] <n00btard> ty
[09:47] <LeeJunFan> !ops
[09:47] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[09:47] <LeeJunFan> oops, sorry.
[09:47] <Hawkwind> LeeJunFan: A tad bit late
[09:47] <dude> fdoving: i installed the video card driver and after rebooting, x window wont start
[09:47] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: panic over :)
[09:47] <LeeJunFan> didn't see you fdoving :)
[09:47] <trym|work> when I did dist-upgrade to edgy.. my win button on the keyboard does no longer work.. any ideas how to fix it ?
[09:47] <oslo> ^^
[09:47] <LjL> !edgy > trym|work
[09:48] <fdoving> LeeJunFan :)
[09:48] <DjDarkman_> trym|work: get a pingvin button :)
[09:48] <trym|work> k
[09:48] <n00btard> where do i go to install a theme i just DLed?
[09:48] <trym|work> LjL: I would assume though, that this is a generic linux question, not edgy
[09:48] <morghanphoenix> gotta go, haven't slept in 48 hours and my fiance's due home soon, she'll kill me if she catches me still sitting here.
[09:48] <fdoving> Abby: try 'kmenu -> run command' - type 'firefox' and hit enter.
[09:48] <fdoving> bye morghanphoenix.
[09:48] <dude> o well, i quit
[09:49] <fdoving> dude: hang on. do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:49] <r4n01> hi y'all
[09:49] <dude> fdoving: yes
[09:49] <jende> fdoving: he has
[09:49] <r4n01> i'm having trouble playing my mp3's in kubuntu
[09:49] <LjL> trym|work: well, perhaps i haven't understood the question, but what i got was that your Win button used to work, then you upgraded to Edgy, and now it doesn't...?
[09:49] <r4n01> can you guys/girls help me?
[09:49] <jende> !mp3
[09:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:49] <fdoving> !ask > r4n01
[09:49] <jende> r4n01: ^^^^^
[09:49] <trym|work> LjL: yeah but I reckon that has something to do with xkb settings rather than edgy itself.. but yes it happened when I dist-upgraded to edgy
[09:50] <n00btard> where do i go to install a theme i just DLed?
[09:50] <fdoving> dude: and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' doesn't work?
[09:50] <Abby> fdoving: already tried it. It won't execute
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[09:50] <LjL> trym|work: then it's an edgy question ;-) of course Edgy is still Linux, so it's a Linux question... but if it's a problem you have with Edgy and not Dapper, it's an Edgy problem
[09:50] <buz> you gotta be kidding me
[09:50] <Ash-Fox> !kops
[09:50] <dude> fdoving: yes and it wont work
[09:50] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[09:50] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: Late again :P
[09:50] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: It's already handled
[09:50] <Ash-Fox> Crap, sorry
[09:51] <Electrolyte> So many idiots on the server recently.
[09:51] <fraco> natasha: why calling our names?
[09:51] <LeeJunFan> at least it wasn't me this time :)
[09:51] <Ash-Fox> This computer is freezing up like hell, and typed that a whiel back
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ?
[09:51] <dude> xserver xorg is not installed
[09:51] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: It's handled
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ok
[09:51] <T3hWiz0rd> dude: xserver-xorg
[09:51] <trym|work> LjL: I would classify it as a kde/xorg problem rather than an edgy problem.. but sure.. Ill ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:51] <fdoving> dude: - not .
[09:51] <gnomefreak> :)
[09:51] <rexbron> !ops
[09:51] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[09:51] <gnomefreak> rexbron: ?
[09:51] <fdoving> rexbron: don't.
[09:51] <dude> ok
[09:51] <Hawkwind> rexbron: ??
[09:51] <rexbron> sorry
[09:51] <jende> fdoving: that is the point that surprises me ... that dude can't do a dpkg
[09:51] <rexbron> the bots gone
[09:51] <n00btard> holy fuck, no one knows how to install a theme in this entire chat room?
[09:52] <rexbron> just responed
[09:52] <Hawkwind> !language
[09:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:52] <mattik> How Do I remove jedit what is half installed?
[09:52] <rexbron> sorry bout that
[09:52] <gnomefreak> n00btard: watch your language please
[09:52] <Electrolyte> n00btard - for what?
[09:52] <n00btard> for kde
[09:52] <dude> i'll try it again
[09:52] <n00btard> i have the thing DLed but idk how to install it
[09:52] <LeeJunFan> quick everyone sudo ping -f -s 1400 61.42.37.46 :)
[09:52] <LjL> !changethemes
[09:52] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[09:52] <T3hWiz0rd> there is a lot of opping going on in here...
[09:52] <LeeJunFan> just kidding - don't really do that :)
[09:53] <nalioth> Ash-Fox: rexbron  did you get sorted?
[09:53] <LjL> n00btard: ^
[09:53] <T3hWiz0rd> errybody just chill out
[09:53] <n00btard> ty
[09:53] <rexbron> nalioth: ?
[09:53] <nalioth> rexbron: you called for ops. was your problem taken care of?
[09:53] <fdoving> nalioth: yes, handled.
[09:53] <Hawkwind> nalioth: They were just late on the trigger.  Everything's settled :)
[09:53] <rexbron> nalioth: yes
[09:54] <jende> fdoving: are you having any ideas how to get dude back to X?
[09:54] <rexbron> nalioth: thank you for responding
[09:54] <nalioth> jende: /msg ubotu xcfg
[09:54] <rexbron> nalioth: but It was a mistake, some one had already taken care of it
[09:54] <nalioth> :)
[09:54] <LeeJunFan> nalioth must have been sleeping, he's like quick kick mcgraw usually :P
[09:54] <rexbron> =D
[09:55] <granbar> Does anybody here have a Cnet CWP-854 that works in linux?
[09:55] <fdoving> jende: without accurate error messages it's hard to help him.
[09:55] <jende> fdoving: thats true and
[09:55] <jende> fdoving: its hard to figure out what he did anyway
[09:56] <aether> hum this was flashing at me why >.<
[09:59] <jende> fdoving: what, if he would start with a dpkg --configure -a and the dpkg-reconfigure
[10:01] <blueyed> mattik: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1551924&group_id=588&atid=100588
[10:01] <mattik> blueyed: Thank you :)
[10:02] <blueyed> You might want to leave a comment there, if you have a SF.net account, just confirming it.
[10:02] <mattik> thank you very much for help
[10:02] <fdoving> jende: if xserver-xorg is installed, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' should just work, if he misspelled xserver-xorg (-/.) that would explain alot.
[10:03] <jende> fdoving: true...
[10:03] <n00btard> what do i do with the .kth file when im trying to install a style?
[10:04] <cpk2> kmail has my addresses in the addressbook bu when i compose something no addresses are there?
[10:05] <fdoving> n00btard: install it to the theme manager. (kmenu -> run command -> type 'kcontrol' press enter. Now Appearance & Themes -> Theme Manager -> Install New Theme..)
[10:05] <morghanphoenix> anyone know a transcoder for ogg video to avis, avidemux isn't opening ogg video.
[10:05] <trappist> morghanphoenix: mencoder
[10:05] <n00btard> ty fdoving
[10:06] <jende> @ all: see ya all tomorrow and take care folks
[10:06] <fdoving> nite jende.
[10:06] <morghanphoenix> any gui frontend for that or do I need to figure out the cli for it?
[10:07] <blueyed> mattik: did it help?
[10:07] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: there is 'kmenc15' but i don't think it's in the repos.
[10:07] <mattik> blueyed: So I have to install some other version of jedit?
[10:07] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: http://kmenc15.sourceforge.net/
[10:08] <morghanphoenix> I'm supposed to be in bed now, isn't "just one last thing" great?
[10:08] <fdoving> do it tomorrow :)
[10:09] <cpk2> I know this sounds silly but how to get kmail to recognize what you put into kaddressbook?
[10:09] <morghanphoenix> Ooh, sourceforge has a deb file
[10:09] <NightBird> hm... what program should I use to install .rpm files?
[10:09] <blueyed> mattik: no, the provided .debs are broken. I'd just try the "normal" install. But currently jedit.org is down. Try looking in the "Files" section on www.sf.net/projects/jedit. Sry for OT.
[10:10] <fdoving> cpk2: hmm.. it does that for me.
[10:10] <morghanphoenix> This might be pretty quick after all
[10:11] <cpk2> fdoving: I just imported all my contacts but when i go to write mail I cant see any of my contacts if I use "select" to find a contact
[10:12] <doml> cpk2, and you've tried restarting kmail?
[10:12] <trappist> cpk2: what resource are you using for your contacts
[10:12] <fdoving> cpk2: i have the whole list. i'm thinking in the same direction as trappist.
[10:13] <fdoving> cpk2: you can choose addressbook at the top of the 'select..' dialog box. is it set to 'all'?
[10:13] <cpk2> doml: was right hehe
[10:13] <cpk2> who would have thought restarting the app would do it =X
[10:13] <fdoving> as easy as that :)
[10:14] <cpk2> guess I should close things more often hehe
[10:14] <doml> i usually have that problem with kopete rather then kmail, but the same solution works there
[10:16] <cpk2> I dot even close apps when I shut down kde, I like everything staying where it always is =)
[10:16] <cpk2> thats my biggest annoyance with gaim
[10:16] <cpk2> it misbehaves alot
[10:18] <NightBird> ... um.. how do I install make and gcc and g++?
[10:19] <cpk2> build-essential
[10:19] <NightBird> ?
[10:19] <fdoving> !b-e
[10:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:20] <NightBird> ah found it
[10:20] <NightBird> I was looking in the wrong spot
[10:20] <morghanphoenix> okay, how do I get qt3.3? am I missing a package or do I need to get it from the web?
[10:21] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: what do you need it for? compiling?
[10:21] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: in that case, get 'libqt3-mt-dev'
[10:21] <morghanphoenix> yup
[10:22] <morghanphoenix> nice, I hate dependancies, why can't it just be in the package?
[10:22] <zorglu_> because it would be much larger
[10:23] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: maybe you should look at klik, package has no dependancies there
[10:23] <zorglu_> !klik
[10:23] <ubotu> klik is a simple way to run additional software without actually installing it. For instructions and more information see http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/
[10:23] <ZeroCool> that I would ask, if there is a good channel for command line apps...tks
[10:25] <cpk2> any recommendations for dvd authoring stuff (to make a dvd with menus that works in  stand alone player)
[10:27] <slow-motion> n8
[10:27] <zorglu_> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6953 <- wow dvd authoring by hand :)
[10:28] <zorglu_> http://varsha.sourceforge.net/#Features  <- old program but seems to fill the task
[10:30] <zorglu_> http://dvdauthorwizard.sourceforge.net/view.php/page/Voorpagina <- more kde like :)
[10:31] <doml> cpk2, have you tried kopete?  it will let you associate your contacts with your address book.  and do nice stuff like group contacts from many protocols into a single meta-contact (e.g. if someone has a Jabber ID and MSN, and ICQ)
[10:31] <cpk2> doml: kopete is a program from hell that crashes non stop =(
[10:31] <cpk2> although it would be very nice if it actually worked
[10:31] <doml> what?  since when?  i haven't had it crash
[10:32] <zorglu_> hmm i run kopete without issue
[10:32] <zorglu_> except when you try to configure the webcam... there it crash :)
[10:32] <cpk2> i havent tried the 12.3 version but the version in the repos before that was problems nonstop
[10:33] <doml> problems with what?
[10:33] <cpk2> AND it refuses to not list contact groups any way but alphabetically
[10:33] <tuxedup> When I insert a dvdroms I cannot open the contents via konquror if I try to in the system/media:/ directory, yet II can do with cdroms.  Yet II can look at its contents via /media/cdrom/ how cna this be resolved?
[10:33] <cpk2> sorry but i would rather have "Friends" above "associates"
[10:33] <morghanphoenix> gotta love packages that depend on obsolete files.
[10:34] <morghanphoenix> I wouldn't really mind deps if I could ever find them all
[10:34] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: probably in backports
[10:34] <zorglu_> rename "Friends" as "_Friends" :)
[10:34] <doml> ah well, to each their own.  i prefer kopete's behaviour over gaim's.  very nice to be able to lump subcontacts under a single meta contact and associate it with my address book
[10:34] <morghanphoenix> Listed as replaced by a file I allready have.
[10:35] <morghanphoenix> I have the new versions of the libs and it wants the old ones. Would going from source make any diffenance or would it still need the old libs?
[10:36] <zorglu_> is that dapper repositories which are that bugged ?
[10:37] <morghanphoenix> me? not dapper, packages from the net, dapper is usually okay.
[10:37] <zorglu_> ah ok
[10:38] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: what program is this?
[10:38] <morghanphoenix> I just wish I could smack it and point at the new packages and yell "HERE, LOOKIE HERE! This is what you're looking for!"
[10:38] <morghanphoenix> Kmenc
[10:38] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: didnt i tell you to look into ld last night?
[10:39] <morghanphoenix> yeah, couldn't figure it out, man pages tend to confuse me more than a bit.
[10:42] <morghanphoenix> Anyways, way past my bedtime, by about a day.
[10:48] <sascha_> hello
[10:53] <nozkan> how to change console resulation
[10:54] <zorglu_> nozkan: elaborate please
[10:55] <sascha_> My smart card reader doesnt read my cards in edgy eft. Can somebody help please?
[10:55] <nozkan> I want grub screen 1024x768 what can I do?
[10:55] <zorglu_> nozkan: wow, you want to change the resolution of grub...
[10:55] <zorglu_> never looked that
[10:56] <zorglu_> i was about to advice vga= as bootoption
[10:56] <zorglu_> or something like that :)
[10:57] <nozkan> it not possible ok I'm sory my english language very bad
[10:58] <nozkan> kubuntu live cd show loading screen 1024*768
[10:58] <cpk2> nozkan: what is your native language? there are several support channels in different languages
[10:58] <Zaire> Im locked out of my phpbb3 forum anyone in here have an idea as to how I can get back in...and I know unrelated channel and all but no ones answering in the phpbb channel
[10:59] <nozkan> turkish
[10:59] <nozkan> Trke bilen varm ?
[10:59] <fdoving> !tr
[10:59] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[10:59] <nozkan> sadece bot var orda :)
[11:00] <Zaire> hey cpk2 Immm back lol
[11:01] <cpk2> how do you update the kmenu again?
[11:01] <fdoving> 'kbuildsycoca'
[11:01] <cpk2> Zaire: i didnt even know there was a phpbb2, guess I am a bit behind the times
[11:01] <Zaire> dunno but Im somehow locked out of my forums admin panel with no means to login lol
[11:02] <zorglu_> nozkan: i looked at the http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual without finding anything. but the beta version of grub seems to be able to do it
[11:02] <Zaire> and its being a pain for creating a new DB to install phpbb2 and get back to 3 later lol
[11:04] <Zaire> I did find however links to 2 sites that should be added the the channel bot for when ppl ask about phpbb2
[11:08] <vge> cpk2: i allways press mouse2 on menu item and select "edit item" when the menu appear, i press "save button", it updates teh menu
[11:09] <Zaire> whats the command for loging into the mysql in cli again?
[11:09] <vge> mysql -u username -p
[11:10] <cpk2> vge: thats alot easier to remember thanks =)
[11:10] <vge> np :)
[11:10] <Zaire> damnit mysql isn't even letting me login now
[11:10] <vge> what it says?
[11:11] <Zaire> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'username'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[11:11] <asrk> help! how can i rollback to KDE 3.5.3
[11:11] <cpk2> Zaire: well if it helps I am planning on starting a lamp server up once edgy releases
[11:11] <cpk2> so I will be able to walk you through it better then =P
[11:11] <Zaire> lol
[11:11] <vge> Zaire: you'r myslq username is "username"? :)
[11:12] <Zaire> no I changed the message a bit
[11:12] <vge> kk
[11:12] <cpk2> Zaire: I thought you were accessing mysql remotely
[11:13] <maffiuss> any canal kubuntu in spanish?
[11:13] <cpk2> !es
[11:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:13] <Zaire> I had been but due to some probs I just swapped my periphs to the server
[11:14] <cpk2> and you made another user at localhost?
[11:14] <Zaire> just a standard user yea for general access and setting up the forum
[11:17] <Zaire> it says the new database I created already exists when I try to remake it and yet I can't see it when I log in with phpmyadmin and phpbb2 itself can't seem to see it
[11:19] <ubuntu> hi !
[11:19] <ubuntu> toall
[11:19] <fdoving> hi.
[11:20] <ubuntu> i want to install anjuta how can i do it _
[11:21] <LjL> ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install anjuta"
[11:21] <Zaire> how do I give total access to an account for all databases?
[11:23] <fdoving> Zaire: mysql?
[11:23] <Zaire> yea
[11:24] <fdoving> Zaire: run 'mysql -u root use mysql' from konsole.
[11:25] <Zaire> that just took me into mysql
[11:26] <fdoving> Zaire: then 'GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO username@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'password';
[11:26] <fdoving> change username, localhost and password to fit your setup
[11:26] <Zaire> so just change password lol
[11:26] <fdoving> you should also consider just giving privileges on the database in question.
[11:27] <fdoving> i suggest using: 'GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON database.* TO username@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'password';
[11:27] <fdoving> where database.* is the name of the database you need access to.
[11:30] <Zaire> k done
[11:32] <Zaire> odd its still not letting me see the databases or have access to them
[11:33] <xst> How can I fix this: When I press "send webcam" in the chat window in kopete 0.12.3, nothing happens. Nothing at all. But in "Configure -> Devices" the webcam functions quite well. What should I do?
[11:37] <thygrrr> hmm, I somehow can't seem to get public key authorization working with ssh.
[11:38] <izzyb_> how do I stop a module from loading?
[11:39] <LjL> !blacklist
[11:39] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[11:40] <fdoving> thygrrr: what did you try?
[11:41] <izzyb_> LjL: thanks :)
[11:42] <thygrrr> fdoving, the usual procedure: ssh-keygen -t dsa; then copy the key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on my server ... I actually suspect it's something on the server. I've seen a howto that tells me I need to set "UsePAM no", though that sounds dangerous (I might get locked out?)
[11:42] <fdoving> thygrrr: that should not be needed as far as i know.
[11:43] <thygrrr> fdoving, it used to work on a similar setup (debian, same server) a year ago or so, though I was using cygwin's ssh back then.
[11:43] <NightBird> how do I setup kde so that it requires double clicking instead of single clicking to open a file?
[11:44] <lipe_pe> How can i configurate the sound in kubuntu... i don't have "alsaconf" here ... ?!
[11:45] <fdoving> NightBird: kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> mouse -> double click...
[11:45] <fdoving> !sound
[11:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:45] <vge> where is located default linux fonts?
[11:45] <driz> Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to edit PDF documents... using AdobeReader which lets you do that
[11:45] <lipe_pe> fdoving: thx u very much
[11:46] <driz> is it avaliable and possible?
[11:46] <trappist> vge: all over the place
[11:46] <thygrrr> ... /etc/ssh/ssh_config is parsed everytime ssh is run, correct? The defaults in there that are actually commented out are still defaults, right?
[11:46] <dragonflyseven> Are there any plans on changing the default fonts in Kubuntu? They are starting to look rather retro.
[11:46] <vge> trappist: if my webserver needs to use em?
[11:47] <driz> hello?
[11:47] <Kim^J> Edgy Eft is NOT ready for release.
[11:48] <trappist> vge: try visiting fonts://System in konqueror.  find the font you want, check out its properties.  the "Points to" property gives you the filename.
[11:48] <NightBird> Thanks fdoving
[11:48] <vge> trappist: ill see what i come up with
[11:49] <driz> would anyone help me
[11:49] <dragonflyseven> drix: With what?
[11:50] <driz>  I was wondering if it was possible to edit PDF documents... using AdobeReader which lets you do that
[11:51] <trappist> driz: adobe reader lets you fill out pdf forms and such, but doesn't really let you edit pdfs.  for that, you need full-on adobe acrobat, not available for linux.
[11:51] <dragonflyseven> Well... OpenOffice lets you create them. I am not sure about editing existing ones.
[11:51] <fdoving> thygrrr: well.. depends, but you souldn't need to change anything in there. i just tested on a clean dapper install. it's basically copying over the public dsa-key and putting it in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[11:51] <driz> adobe reader lets you fill out pdf forms that's what i need
[11:51] <Bbetto> why i can't conect to undernet whit konversation?
[11:51] <vge> An error occurred while loading fonts://system:
[11:51] <vge> Please specify "Personal" or "System"
[11:52] <trappist> Bbetto: I dunno, what happens when you try
[11:52] <trappist> vge: look real close at the difference between what I said and what you did
[11:52] <vge> it dont accept fonts://System, it turns to what i wrote
[11:52] <vge> ?
[11:52] <Bbetto> this ]  Servidor encontrado, conectando...
[11:52] <trappist> vge: ah
[11:52] <Bbetto> and nothig hapengd
[11:52] <trappist> vge: just do fonts:/ and then click System
[11:52] <Bbetto> server found, conecting...
[11:53] <trappist> vge: then file a bug report :)  cuz that's wrong
[11:53] <Bbetto> but notinhg hapend
[11:53] <Bbetto> what can i do?
[11:54] <trappist> Bbetto: what servername do you use
[11:54] <trappist> Bbetto: whatever it is, try telnet servername 6667
[11:54] <vge> trappist: bug indeed
[11:54] <thompa> !nvidia
[11:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:54] <driz> trappist:"fill out pdf forms and such" exactly what i need. do you know how i can install it? i need to fill out this college application
[11:54] <trappist> driz: sudo apt-get install acroread
[11:54] <Bbetto> irc.undernet.org:6667
[11:55] <NightBird> how do I restart the x-server?
[11:55] <dragonflyseven> ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:55] <dragonflyseven> that was for NightBird
[11:55] <NightBird> dragonflyseven, thanks
[11:55] <driz> trappist: thank you :-)
[11:56] <NightBird> haha.. awesome...
[11:56] <trappist> driz: if it can't find it, you need to enable your multiverse repo
[11:56] <thygrrr> fdoving, I know. Strange. I suppose it is my old and trusty debian server, then.
[11:56] <driz> trappist: i have that done already
[11:56] <trappist> Bbetto: irc.undernet.org isn't responding at all on 6667
[11:56] <trappist> driz: good deal
[11:57] <ravaria> hi
[11:57] <trappist> Bbetto: nevermind, I can connect here
[11:57] <zorglu_> $ telnet irc.undernet.org 6667
[11:57] <zorglu_> Trying 64.18.128.86...
[11:57] <zorglu_> Connected to irc.undernet.org.
[11:57] <driz> trappist: yupo
[11:57] <trappist> Bbetto: are you behind a firewall?
[11:57] <Bbetto> nop
[11:57] <trappist> Bbetto: give it several minutes.  it could be waiting for an ident response from you.
[11:57] <ravaria> anyone knows how can i get flash for an amd64?
[11:57] <dragonflyseven> So how hard would it be to install XGL/Compiz with KDE now? I know a few months ago it was tricky, and I really can't do much beyond copy commands. Anyone know of a walk through for it?
[11:58] <Bbetto> ok
[11:58] <Bbetto> thanks
[11:59] <ravaria> hallo
[11:59] <dragonflyseven> driz: Try pdftk if you want more functionallity.
[11:59] <dragonflyseven> ravaria: Hello.
[11:59] <ravaria> can anyone tell me how to install flash player in an amd64 kubuntu??
[12:00] <driz> dragonflyseven: do i need to restart firefox for it to work
[12:00] <dragonflyseven> driz: But it doesn't have a GUI. And huh?
[12:00] <dragonflyseven> For what to work?
[12:01] <zorglu_> !flash64
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <zorglu_> hmm i added this one
[12:02] <zorglu_> !flash64bit
[12:02] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[12:02] <driz> dragonflyseven: ... I need to fill out this online form using the adobe reader... do i need to download the pdf file then edit it
[12:02] <zorglu_> here we go :)
[12:02] <zorglu_> ravaria: the ubotu was for you
[12:02] <ravaria> there is no flash for 64, but someone told me to get fire fox and then run the flash installer
[12:02] <dragonflyseven> driz: I am not sure, I am just reading off a thread in the Ubuntu forums. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208310&highlight=pdf+forms)
[12:02] <ravaria> thanks obout
[12:03] <zorglu_> ravaria: well ubotu is a bot :) i am the one who triggered the command :)
[12:03] <driz> dragonflyseven: oooh...
[12:03] <ravaria> ;)
[12:03] <ravaria> ok thanks
[12:04] <dragonflyseven> driz: Just out of curiosity, where are you applying?
[12:04] <driz> dragonflyseven: to Northeastern, Boston College, Boston University, Tufts
[12:05] <driz> a couple more
[12:06] <dragonflyseven> driz: I have to start the whole applying process pretty soon. It sounds like quiet a hassle.
[12:07] <driz> dragonflyseven: it is very much a hassle... my advice find some help from people who can help you.... as much as possible
[12:09] <dragonflyseven> driz: Yep, I will try. I am going to a college-night thing Thursday.
[12:10] <dragonflyseven> So does anyone know how much power a GUI drains? I was wondering how much longer my laptop would last if I didn't start KDE and just used nano.
[12:10] <driz> dragonflyseven: good... ask as many questions as you can man... you don't want to go somewhere you won't like or have no chance of getting into