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unstableelkbuntu: Do you have results on those polls?02:57
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poningruwoo04:13
cpk2good presentation?04:17
cpk2did you rock the house?04:17
poningruyep04:21
poningruwell considering only 30 people04:21
poningrugot questions04:21
cpk2\o/04:21
poningruso I say that was a good sign04:21
poningrubut these were a bit more technical people04:21
poningruso dont know if people liked it or what... but ever the optimist /me says it went well04:22
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unstablehttp://www.techworld.com/cmsdata/news/7109/FLOSS-letter-ISC.pdf09:13
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jendaunstable: weird stuff...09:55
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KenSentMejenda: lot of things on my mind with my own marketing lately10:38
jendaKenSentMe: all cool ;)10:38
jendaBut you're welcome to drop by at any time.10:38
KenSentMeWell, i haven't left the channel for two months i think10:39
jendaI see :) I didn't see...10:40
MenZajenda: Good morning :)10:42
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jendayo, Menny-Z10:43
MenZarofl10:46
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jendanixternal: ping03:41
nixternalheh04:11
elkbuntu timezones ... ;) <-- tehehe04:13
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nixternaljenda: pong btw?05:16
nixternalafter the meeting is fine05:17
jendanixternal: ok05:17
=== jenda just had a few questions about bitlbee, seeing that you use it :)
nixternalahhh, lovely program it is05:17
nixternalbitlbee and bip...together you never know i disconnected05:18
jenda:)05:20
lophytenixternal: ping05:38
nixternalpongerz05:38
lophyteso as to not flood the meeting channel :)05:38
lophyteI'm thinking I got this invoice because the shipment was rushed05:39
lophytebut I'm not sure...05:39
lophyteregardless, the courier company is asking me for $26.5005:39
nixternalholy jesus05:40
nixternalthe courier company is trying to rip you off05:40
lophyte$25 brokerage, $1.50 tax05:40
lophyteI don't know if I can contest it or not05:40
lophytebecause someone at mediamotion declared the value at 20.80 Euro05:40
nixternalya, i have never paid05:41
nixternaleven for a 500+ shipment05:41
nixternali received a shipment where they paid over $100 usd to get it to me05:41
lophyteugh..05:43
lophytewhat shipping co. did they use05:43
nixternalso ya, either there was a mistake in the shipment, or the courier is trying to make a few bucks off of ya05:43
nixternalmediamotion05:43
lophyteno no.. the courier I mean05:43
nixternaleveryone of my invoices are the same place05:43
lophytemediamotion is the manufacturer I believe05:44
nixternaloh wow, some ghetto arse courier here in chicago05:44
lophyteyeah, but who did mediamotion ship it with?05:44
nixternaltwice it has been by courier, and 10 other times by the post office05:44
lophytethey had to hand it off to some company05:44
lophytethey have the carrier listed as TNT here05:44
nixternali don't know who they handed it off to truthfully05:44
lophytewell, the invoice is from some PBB Global Logistics05:45
lophytemeh, I'll call the number here and take itu p with them05:45
lophytetechnically, the CDs should have no value and thus should be duty-free, right?05:46
nixternali just threw out the box that had a invoice on it too05:46
nixternali would think they would be duty free05:46
nixternalwell yes, otherwise I would be taxed for them here in the us05:46
lophyteyeah05:46
lophytethat's what I don't get05:46
nixternalthe us taxes you for sneezing05:47
lophytewhy aren't you being taxed05:47
lophytewhat's brokerage anyway..05:47
lophyteoh05:47
lophytethat's a fee being charged by the company05:47
lophyteso they're charging me $25 for shipping?05:47
nixternalthats what it sound like...i would probably kick the guy for trying to charge me if he came up to the door05:48
lophyteThe business of bringing buyers and seller together in the marketplace.05:48
nixternalboth times, it looked like a heroin junky was delivering to me...he was definitely from the bad side of town05:48
lophyteright, but they never charged me at the door..05:49
lophytethey sent this invoice a month after the fact05:49
nixternaloh they sent you a bill?05:49
lophyteyeah05:49
nixternalblow your nose on it, and send it back05:49
nixternalwell, in the us i would do that05:49
lophyteI got the shipment at the beginning of September..and just got the invoice yesterday05:49
nixternalhehe05:49
lophyteoh, I see how this works05:49
lophytethey paid $1.50 to our customs agency, for taxes on the CD05:50
lophyteand now they want that $1.50, PLUS $25 for doing it for me05:50
nixternalholy jesus05:51
lophyte"For duties and taxes paid to Revenue Canada [aka Customs and Revenue Agency]  on your behalf for a package delivered by TNT Express Worldwide."05:51
nixternalwhy would you pay taxes and i wouldn't?05:51
nixternali don't get it05:51
nixternali purchase and sell stuff through canada all the time, and never have a problem05:52
lophyteright, through canada.. that's the key point :)05:52
nixternalnow, when i cross the border with a laptop. that is a different story05:52
lophyteanything shipped between the US and Canada is duty-free under $50 according to the NAFTA05:52
nixternalwell, i do $15,000 on up type shipments05:52
lophytehowever, since these CDs are shipped from the Netherlands, NAFTA does not apply05:52
nixternaldrugs aren't cheap anymore ;)05:53
lophyteyou don't pay duties or taxes on $15k shipments? :P05:53
nixternali don't05:53
lophytewtf05:53
nixternali pay a crazy amount of shipping05:53
nixternalshipping is usually around $250 to $500 depending on the weight05:54
lophyteI don't get it05:54
nixternalhttp://www.ab.com/programmablecontrol/plc/plcsystem/controller.html05:55
nixternalthat is what i am usually shipping05:55
lophyteI see05:55
lophyteugh.. I still don't know if I can contest this or not05:56
nixternalim sure you could05:57
lophyteperhaps I'll try anyway05:57
nixternali can see the $1.50 at most...the other i don't05:57
lophytethey paid $1.50 on my behalf, and they want $25 for doing that05:57
nixternalsounds like something them bogus americans would do ;)05:57
lophytelol05:58
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MitchMhappy with everything elkbuntu?09:26
jendaMitchM: I might soon have a site for you to host ;)09:29
jendas/soon/eventually/09:30
MitchMremember your username/password and what-not? :-009:30
MitchM:-)*09:30
jendawhoa :)09:30
jendaI'm sure my logs do if I don't ;)09:30
MitchMokay. You already have diy.devubuntu.com setup i know09:31
MitchMif you bought your own nifty name09:31
MitchMjust let me know so i can setup accordingly09:31
jendaI won't be buying one...09:31
MitchMhehe k09:31
jenda...I'll be getting one ;)09:31
MitchMah ha09:31
MitchMand what name is that?09:31
jendabut for now, the above is good enough.09:31
MitchMok.09:31
jendaI'm hoping for diy.ubuntu.com09:31
MitchMdiy.devubuntu.com should still all be ready for you.09:31
jendagreat, thx :)09:32
jendahttp://worm.shanara.nl/ubuntuDIY/09:32
jendathat's where it is atm...09:32
jendaneeds a lot of work :)09:32
MitchMhehe.09:32
MitchMwell; diy.devubuntu.com just drops you right into a blank folder09:32
MitchMthere may be some permissions problems but just shoot me an e-mail if you need something an i normally get to it pretty quick09:33
jendahttp://worm.shanara.nl/screen1.png09:33
jendathere, that's a screenshot of what it looks like when it actually works :)09:33
MitchMah ha very nice09:33
jendastill a rough draft, and I still have someone else werking on it :-D09:33
MitchM:-)09:34
jendahehe... cool... and if my logs did not reveal the secret to me...?09:34
jenda;)09:34
MitchMthen your lost ... Forrreeever!09:35
MitchMor something like that.09:35
jendaaaaaargh ;)09:35
MitchMlmao.09:35
MitchMargh indeed09:35
jendafound it :)09:36
MitchMgive it a whirl ^.^09:36
jendaThe logs were mute because it was in the email ;)09:36
MitchMdrop maybe a placeholder page in there to make sure stuff works?09:36
jendaOk, will do.09:36
jendaIs that... ftp?09:36
jendaor ssh?09:36
MitchMyuppers09:36
jendaok09:36
MitchMi think you have both.09:36
jendacool :)09:36
MitchMif you want something else special... like awstats09:37
MitchMjust give me a shout09:37
jendaright...09:38
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jendathe password doesn't work :)09:38
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MitchMwhats the username?09:39
jendaJenda09:39
jendacapital J?09:39
MitchMwhat do you want your password to be?09:39
MitchMyou can change it through ssh real quick.09:39
MagicFabMitchM, perhaps msg each other ?09:39
jendawhoa, it works now09:39
MitchMlmao.09:39
MitchMtypo ftw!09:40
jendaMitchM: it was a Jenda vs. jenda issue.09:40
MitchMcapital J?09:40
jendaWell, that's what your email said ;)09:40
MitchMbleh.09:40
jendabut not what your server wants to hear.09:40
jenda;)09:40
MitchM=P09:40
MitchM=)09:40
jendaShould have tried that before bothering ya ;)09:40
jendaMagicFab: sorry.09:40
MitchMyeah... geeze.09:40
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