[02:57] <unstable> elkbuntu: Do you have results on those polls?
[04:13] <poningru> woo
[04:17] <cpk2> good presentation?
[04:17] <cpk2> did you rock the house?
[04:21] <poningru> yep
[04:21] <poningru> well considering only 30 people
[04:21] <poningru> got questions
[04:21] <cpk2> \o/
[04:21] <poningru> so I say that was a good sign
[04:21] <poningru> but these were a bit more technical people
[04:22] <poningru> so dont know if people liked it or what... but ever the optimist /me says it went well
[09:13] <unstable> http://www.techworld.com/cmsdata/news/7109/FLOSS-letter-ISC.pdf
[09:55] <jenda> unstable: weird stuff...
[10:38] <KenSentMe> jenda: lot of things on my mind with my own marketing lately
[10:38] <jenda> KenSentMe: all cool ;)
[10:38] <jenda> But you're welcome to drop by at any time.
[10:39] <KenSentMe> Well, i haven't left the channel for two months i think
[10:40] <jenda> I see :) I didn't see...
[10:42] <MenZa> jenda: Good morning :)
[10:43] <jenda> yo, Menny-Z
[10:46] <MenZa> rofl
[03:41] <jenda> nixternal: ping
[04:11] <nixternal> heh
[04:13] <elkbuntu>  timezones ... ;) <-- tehehe
[05:16] <nixternal> jenda: pong btw?
[05:17] <nixternal> after the meeting is fine
[05:17] <jenda> nixternal: ok
[05:17] <nixternal> ahhh, lovely program it is
[05:18] <nixternal> bitlbee and bip...together you never know i disconnected
[05:20] <jenda> :)
[05:38] <lophyte> nixternal: ping
[05:38] <nixternal> pongerz
[05:38] <lophyte> so as to not flood the meeting channel :)
[05:39] <lophyte> I'm thinking I got this invoice because the shipment was rushed
[05:39] <lophyte> but I'm not sure...
[05:39] <lophyte> regardless, the courier company is asking me for $26.50
[05:40] <nixternal> holy jesus
[05:40] <nixternal> the courier company is trying to rip you off
[05:40] <lophyte> $25 brokerage, $1.50 tax
[05:40] <lophyte> I don't know if I can contest it or not
[05:40] <lophyte> because someone at mediamotion declared the value at 20.80 Euro
[05:41] <nixternal> ya, i have never paid
[05:41] <nixternal> even for a 500+ shipment
[05:41] <nixternal> i received a shipment where they paid over $100 usd to get it to me
[05:43] <lophyte> ugh..
[05:43] <lophyte> what shipping co. did they use
[05:43] <nixternal> so ya, either there was a mistake in the shipment, or the courier is trying to make a few bucks off of ya
[05:43] <nixternal> mediamotion
[05:43] <lophyte> no no.. the courier I mean
[05:43] <nixternal> everyone of my invoices are the same place
[05:44] <lophyte> mediamotion is the manufacturer I believe
[05:44] <nixternal> oh wow, some ghetto arse courier here in chicago
[05:44] <lophyte> yeah, but who did mediamotion ship it with?
[05:44] <nixternal> twice it has been by courier, and 10 other times by the post office
[05:44] <lophyte> they had to hand it off to some company
[05:44] <lophyte> they have the carrier listed as TNT here
[05:44] <nixternal> i don't know who they handed it off to truthfully
[05:45] <lophyte> well, the invoice is from some PBB Global Logistics
[05:45] <lophyte> meh, I'll call the number here and take itu p with them
[05:46] <lophyte> technically, the CDs should have no value and thus should be duty-free, right?
[05:46] <nixternal> i just threw out the box that had a invoice on it too
[05:46] <nixternal> i would think they would be duty free
[05:46] <nixternal> well yes, otherwise I would be taxed for them here in the us
[05:46] <lophyte> yeah
[05:46] <lophyte> that's what I don't get
[05:47] <nixternal> the us taxes you for sneezing
[05:47] <lophyte> why aren't you being taxed
[05:47] <lophyte> what's brokerage anyway..
[05:47] <lophyte> oh
[05:47] <lophyte> that's a fee being charged by the company
[05:47] <lophyte> so they're charging me $25 for shipping?
[05:48] <nixternal> thats what it sound like...i would probably kick the guy for trying to charge me if he came up to the door
[05:48] <lophyte> The business of bringing buyers and seller together in the marketplace.
[05:48] <nixternal> both times, it looked like a heroin junky was delivering to me...he was definitely from the bad side of town
[05:49] <lophyte> right, but they never charged me at the door..
[05:49] <lophyte> they sent this invoice a month after the fact
[05:49] <nixternal> oh they sent you a bill?
[05:49] <lophyte> yeah
[05:49] <nixternal> blow your nose on it, and send it back
[05:49] <nixternal> well, in the us i would do that
[05:49] <lophyte> I got the shipment at the beginning of September..and just got the invoice yesterday
[05:49] <nixternal> hehe
[05:49] <lophyte> oh, I see how this works
[05:50] <lophyte> they paid $1.50 to our customs agency, for taxes on the CD
[05:50] <lophyte> and now they want that $1.50, PLUS $25 for doing it for me
[05:51] <nixternal> holy jesus
[05:51] <lophyte> "For duties and taxes paid to Revenue Canada [aka Customs and Revenue Agency]  on your behalf for a package delivered by TNT Express Worldwide."
[05:51] <nixternal> why would you pay taxes and i wouldn't?
[05:51] <nixternal> i don't get it
[05:52] <nixternal> i purchase and sell stuff through canada all the time, and never have a problem
[05:52] <lophyte> right, through canada.. that's the key point :)
[05:52] <nixternal> now, when i cross the border with a laptop. that is a different story
[05:52] <lophyte> anything shipped between the US and Canada is duty-free under $50 according to the NAFTA
[05:52] <nixternal> well, i do $15,000 on up type shipments
[05:52] <lophyte> however, since these CDs are shipped from the Netherlands, NAFTA does not apply
[05:53] <nixternal> drugs aren't cheap anymore ;)
[05:53] <lophyte> you don't pay duties or taxes on $15k shipments? :P
[05:53] <nixternal> i don't
[05:53] <lophyte> wtf
[05:53] <nixternal> i pay a crazy amount of shipping
[05:54] <nixternal> shipping is usually around $250 to $500 depending on the weight
[05:54] <lophyte> I don't get it
[05:55] <nixternal> http://www.ab.com/programmablecontrol/plc/plcsystem/controller.html
[05:55] <nixternal> that is what i am usually shipping
[05:55] <lophyte> I see
[05:56] <lophyte> ugh.. I still don't know if I can contest this or not
[05:57] <nixternal> im sure you could
[05:57] <lophyte> perhaps I'll try anyway
[05:57] <nixternal> i can see the $1.50 at most...the other i don't
[05:57] <lophyte> they paid $1.50 on my behalf, and they want $25 for doing that
[05:57] <nixternal> sounds like something them bogus americans would do ;)
[05:58] <lophyte> lol
[09:26] <MitchM> happy with everything elkbuntu?
[09:29] <jenda> MitchM: I might soon have a site for you to host ;)
[09:30] <jenda> s/soon/eventually/
[09:30] <MitchM> remember your username/password and what-not? :-0
[09:30] <MitchM> :-)*
[09:30] <jenda> whoa :)
[09:30] <jenda> I'm sure my logs do if I don't ;)
[09:31] <MitchM> okay. You already have diy.devubuntu.com setup i know
[09:31] <MitchM> if you bought your own nifty name
[09:31] <MitchM> just let me know so i can setup accordingly
[09:31] <jenda> I won't be buying one...
[09:31] <MitchM> hehe k
[09:31] <jenda> ...I'll be getting one ;)
[09:31] <MitchM> ah ha
[09:31] <MitchM> and what name is that?
[09:31] <jenda> but for now, the above is good enough.
[09:31] <MitchM> ok.
[09:31] <jenda> I'm hoping for diy.ubuntu.com
[09:31] <MitchM> diy.devubuntu.com should still all be ready for you.
[09:32] <jenda> great, thx :)
[09:32] <jenda> http://worm.shanara.nl/ubuntuDIY/
[09:32] <jenda> that's where it is atm...
[09:32] <jenda> needs a lot of work :)
[09:32] <MitchM> hehe.
[09:32] <MitchM> well; diy.devubuntu.com just drops you right into a blank folder
[09:33] <MitchM> there may be some permissions problems but just shoot me an e-mail if you need something an i normally get to it pretty quick
[09:33] <jenda> http://worm.shanara.nl/screen1.png
[09:33] <jenda> there, that's a screenshot of what it looks like when it actually works :)
[09:33] <MitchM> ah ha very nice
[09:33] <jenda> still a rough draft, and I still have someone else werking on it :-D
[09:34] <MitchM> :-)
[09:34] <jenda> hehe... cool... and if my logs did not reveal the secret to me...?
[09:34] <jenda> ;)
[09:35] <MitchM> then your lost ... Forrreeever!
[09:35] <MitchM> or something like that.
[09:35] <jenda> aaaaargh ;)
[09:35] <MitchM> lmao.
[09:35] <MitchM> argh indeed
[09:36] <jenda> found it :)
[09:36] <MitchM> give it a whirl ^.^
[09:36] <jenda> The logs were mute because it was in the email ;)
[09:36] <MitchM> drop maybe a placeholder page in there to make sure stuff works?
[09:36] <jenda> Ok, will do.
[09:36] <jenda> Is that... ftp?
[09:36] <jenda> or ssh?
[09:36] <MitchM> yuppers
[09:36] <jenda> ok
[09:36] <MitchM> i think you have both.
[09:36] <jenda> cool :)
[09:37] <MitchM> if you want something else special... like awstats
[09:37] <MitchM> just give me a shout
[09:38] <jenda> right...
[09:38] <jenda> the password doesn't work :)
[09:39] <MitchM> whats the username?
[09:39] <jenda> Jenda
[09:39] <jenda> capital J?
[09:39] <MitchM> what do you want your password to be?
[09:39] <MitchM> you can change it through ssh real quick.
[09:39] <MagicFab> MitchM, perhaps msg each other ?
[09:39] <jenda> whoa, it works now
[09:39] <MitchM> lmao.
[09:40] <MitchM> typo ftw!
[09:40] <jenda> MitchM: it was a Jenda vs. jenda issue.
[09:40] <MitchM> capital J?
[09:40] <jenda> Well, that's what your email said ;)
[09:40] <MitchM> bleh.
[09:40] <jenda> but not what your server wants to hear.
[09:40] <jenda> ;)
[09:40] <MitchM> =P
[09:40] <MitchM> =)
[09:40] <jenda> Should have tried that before bothering ya ;)
[09:40] <jenda> MagicFab: sorry.
[09:40] <MitchM> yeah... geeze.