[12:12] heh, I caused my first core dump, how lovely [12:12] nice [12:12] how did you do it? [12:13] not sure [12:13] just put in a function I shouldn't have [12:13] blah(int) { int / 0 }; [12:13] ? [12:13] hehe [12:15] no [12:16] could of been an infinite loop [12:16] not sure [12:16] a infinate loop wouldent cause a core would it ? well it could run out of memory i guess [12:17] I'm not sure [12:17] it just sat there an chugged away on something for a couple seconds and then dumped [12:18] oh, btw, you can use tiber again. :-D It was down for severals hours but is back now. [12:18] newz2000, rockin, thanks [12:18] Still on old kernel though. [12:19] ajmitch, ping === adam0509 [n=adam0509@82.227.107.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] imbrandon: if he loops over an data structure and tries to access beyond it, it will certainly segfault [12:22] geser, true [12:22] off by one ? heh [12:23] imbrandon: yessir? [12:23] 2 things, one , do you know about how they handle security on the porter machines >? [12:23] i'm working on the farm spec some more === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-086-015.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] and 2 can you re-fixup ( import ) my login keys for tiber ( now that its back up ) [12:31] imbrandon: no idea, and possibly, if I can login [12:32] your new ssh key is on launchpad? === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.19] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] ajmitch, yup [12:32] which one? :) [12:33] one is my laptop and one my desktop , use the laptop one please ( intrepid ) [12:33] thats the one i will eventualy set my desktop up to use === ajmitch shrugs [12:34] I just copied both, try & login [12:34] k === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] works [12:35] thanks [12:36] imbrandon: what's the porter machine? [12:36] sivang: debian machines === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] sivang, debian machines === fabo_ [i=Arme-X@dra38-2-82-233-106-22.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.19] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.19] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon24409.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon24409.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.19] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] -> Considering debhelper (>= 5.0.37.2) [01:09] Tried versions: 5.0.7ubuntu13 [01:09] -> Does not satisfy version, not trying [01:10] shouldn't that dependency be met? [01:11] 37 > 7 [01:11] so anyway, u-m-l is now kernel-patch-uml ? [01:12] oh, okay [01:12] (hence all pakcages depending on it should now depend on this instead) [01:12] like guml, for instance [01:17] user-mode-linux is not available in Ubuntu, afaik. [01:17] It wouldn't make sense to have it as a kernel-patch- package since it's included in mainline kernel these days. [01:18] Anything depending on it will have to wait until edgy+1. [01:19] I discussed this with BenC earlier today. He told me to write a spec about it: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/user-mode-linux [01:20] sivang: which bug? [01:20] shawarma: oh, I see, let me update the bug report [01:20] to update my dapper pbuilder to edgy I just have to do this: sudo pbuilder update --distribution edgy --override-config --othermirror "deb http://tt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse" right? [01:20] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/user-mode-linux/+bug/2735 [01:20] Malone bug 2735 in user-mode-linux "Package Missing" [Medium,Confirmed] [01:21] found it [01:22] sivang: Oh, I'm updating it, too. [01:22] shawarma: cool, thanks [01:23] garh, you beat me to it. :-) [01:23] Well, I somehow managed to stay awake until 1 AM again now. I'm off to bed. [01:23] hehe [01:23] good night ! [01:23] Back at you! [01:24] We'll see :) === shawarma has left the building! [01:24] I get an error on that command I pasted above, does it look right to anyone? [01:25] so.. who's read the security bulletin about the closed-source nvidia drivers? === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] VoX, me. [01:26] I can't get the exploit to work, though. [01:27] it's scared the shit out of me [01:27] That's what binary drivers do, yes. [01:27] and a few other guys i know running the cs drivers [01:27] heh === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] I don't see why it would matter [01:32] as it should VoX, cs stuff is very scarry that way [01:33] but then I'm not really into the security stuff [01:33] LaserJock, a root exploit is nasty heh [01:33] only if it happens to you ;-) [01:33] LaserJock, arbitrary code execution as root simply by viewing a web page is pretty nasty, I think. [01:33] And it's unfixable. [01:34] heh well sorta, it gives Linux as a whole a bad name too if there is enough of them [01:34] as it has done with windoww [01:34] I suppose [01:34] s/ww/ws [01:34] If the driver were open source, the flaw would have been fixed within hours... But we'll probably be waiting weeks for NVIDIA to release it. [01:34] sure === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] mmmm vanilla milkshake /me is in heaven ... [01:36] Heya gang [01:36] heya bddebian === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] Heya imbrandon [01:37] does const in C++ have a type? [01:37] or is that a type? [01:37] const what? [01:37] Hi btw LaserJock [01:38] hi === mwolson [n=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] ah, I think I found it [01:38] LaserJock: It should have const int or const char, etc [01:38] 11980, just cant seem to make 12000 [01:40] bddebian: well, it's const Value which was confusing me [01:40] technically speaking const is a type modifier, not a type, I think [01:40] bddebian: but I figured it out [01:40] at least in C [01:40] :-) [01:40] Ah [01:40] hi minghua === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] hi LaserJock, and hi imbrandon, bddebian and Fujitsu :-) [01:41] Hi minghua. === Fujitsu pats wireless. [01:41] No boring physics classes! [01:41] heya minghua [01:41] physics classes are good [01:41] Fujitsu, lol [01:42] but chemistry clases are best [01:42] physics classes are good for a nap [01:42] minghua, not when you're doing nothing in this lesson. [01:42] Hi minghua :) [01:42] Fujitsu: what subject is your class? [01:43] Currently revising the photoelectric effect. [01:43] ah, wonderful discovery by Einstein === minghua misses his physics classes, actually [01:44] also great for the optical mollases [01:44] man I love python === bddebian has no class [01:44] these types and pointers are giving me a headache [01:44] bddebian, hehe [01:45] LaserJock: pointers will make your head explode [01:45] especially pointers to pointers and pointers to functions :-) === imbrandon sits in a corner and sucks his thumb at the thought of using pointers again [01:45] heh === bddebian points at imbrandon [01:46] that was one of the main reasons i picked up c# instead of getting deeper in c++ back in the day [01:46] yay C# [01:46] NO POINTERS hehe === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] C# "back in the day"? Hah [01:47] heh well back in 2002 [01:47] Fortran, or COBOL was "back in the day" ;-P [01:48] or so [01:48] LaserJock: OT, but, how is photoelectric effect good for optical molasses? [01:48] bddebian: showing your age? [01:48] 2001 maybe, dont rember when the last time i "really" looked at a c++ project serouisly [01:48] rmjb: Oh, I'm old :( [01:49] minghua: well, just showing that photons act as particles, hence light has a momentum [01:49] What does that have to do with molasses cookies? [01:49] LaserJock: oh okay, thanks [01:50] minghua: if you hit a stream of atoms with a laser you can give the atoms momentum in the opposite direction from which they are travelling [01:50] so they slow down [01:50] yes, yes I know how laser cooling works [01:50] it acts like molasses [01:50] my lab is working on a similar concept, but with angular momentum [01:50] imbrandon, got a sec? === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] although I have never heard of the term optical molasses before (and LaserJock's typo doesn't help when you look it up in wikipedia :-) [01:51] sorry [01:51] lastnode, sure wasup === rmjb is now known as rmjb|away [01:51] imbrandon, need a sec to talk about making that .deb. could you hop in #upstream-dev for a sec? [01:51] "hukd on fonics wrkd 4 me" :-) [01:51] hahaha [01:52] bddebian: I don't think it has anything to do with real sweet molasses [01:52] not me ;( [01:52] I suspect that's a term coined by chemists :-P [01:52] of course, we like cookies [01:53] and are not as crazy as the physicists === redguy_ [n=mati@adq98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] my gosh, I have no idea where this pointer is pointing to [01:55] LaserJock, that's the point of pointers. === Fujitsu ducks. [01:55] grrr [01:55] but for some reason it matters if it's a float or a string [01:55] It points to some location in memory :-) [01:56] well, float* usually points to a float, while char* is a string :-P [01:56] A pointer is a pointer, it isn't a float or a string ;-P [01:57] bah [01:58] I suppose in C you can argue a string is very close to a char pointer [01:58] In C you could argue there is not such thing as a string ;-P [01:58] A pointer is a long! [01:58] what is a virtual ? [01:59] LaserJock, able to be overridden by a derivative class. [01:59] Fujitsu: s/able to/must/ ? [01:59] If no block of code is defined for it in the parent, it is `pure virtual', and has to be overridden. [01:59] I think [01:59] I haven't used C++ in years. [01:59] Hmm... [02:01] I supposed I confused virtual and pure virtual [02:01] ugh, C++ semantics [02:01] heh [02:01] Heya ajmitch [02:02] hello [02:02] hi aj [02:02] darn it, I told it what type it was! [02:03] hi ajmitch [02:03] Hey ajmitch. [02:03] ajmitch: I told imbrandon yesterday that you said for unmet deps universe package we can upload *then* ping. I hope I didn't misrepresent you [02:04] minghua: either way I'll hear about it soon enough [02:04] making packages installable is a bit more useful than fixing package descriptions, for example :) === awbassett [n=andrew@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@127.Red-83-50-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [n=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.149.6.196] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.149.6.196] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] ajmitch: hrm i wonder if this is related to that long text bug: http://lwn.net/Articles/204542/ === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] Lathiat: yes, it is [04:30] the appropriate people know already :) [04:31] would be cool if someone made the root exploit work from a browser ;) [04:39] Lathiat, that depends on your definition of `cool'. [04:40] of course [04:40] by cool it would be "i can't use a web browser" or "i have to sacrifice my dual head" [04:41] i dont think "cool" would be the word i would use === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:42] hi all [04:42] heya zakame [04:42] yo imbrandon [04:44] Lathiat: but they say it's fixed in the crackful beta drivers :) === carthik [n=carthik@ubuntu/member/pdpc.carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb|away is now known as rmjb === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] wow now THIS is a kernel version [04:53] Linux gobstopper 2.4.32-grsec+f6b+gr217+nfs+a32+fuse23+tg+++opt+c8+gr2b-v6.194 === imbrandon rolls eyes [04:54] haha [04:54] thats the kernel version for my webhost for imbrandon.com ( dreamhost ) [04:55] zomg [04:55] lol [04:56] nice [04:56] its a dual core x2 server though ;) [04:57] err two amd opteron dual core proc's [04:57] nice [04:57] gimme [04:57] hehe [04:58] ajmitch, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27061/ [04:58] evening guys [04:58] heya whiprush [04:58] hey whiprush [04:59] imbrandon: single cpu, dual core? [04:59] man, release freeze already [04:59] 2 cpu and 2core each === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] 4core [04:59] s [04:59] 4core and 7 years ago... [05:00] 2x Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 175 [05:00] Heya whiprush [05:00] bddebian, yea old but work horses ;) [05:00] imbrandon: what does top show? [05:00] hum lemme look [05:00] since my dual-core X2 shows very similar /proc/cpuinfo output [05:01] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27062/ <-- my desktop [05:01] yo whiprush , ajmitch === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-10-83-27.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] hmmm, I am lusting for a new core2duo desktop. [05:02] yeh its tempting [05:02] whiprush: get me one while you're at it [05:02] ajmitch, http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss_stats2.png [05:02] but i only just bought an X2 like 6 months ago :\ [05:02] whiprush, me too [05:02] Lathiat: same.. [05:02] any of you guys know about that funky plug intel has for doing multiple outputs off the built in card? [05:02] mm 4G of ram [05:02] i only have 2 :( [05:02] imbrandon: in top, hit '1' & take the screenshot again [05:03] 6GB swap? that's excessive [05:03] yeh that seems a bit nuts [05:03] i dont have much swap these days [05:03] usually maybe 1G tops === ajmitch has none [05:03] i think my desktop has 512M now [05:03] -/+ buffers/cache: 3311728 733264 [05:03] go edgy! [05:03] jsut enough to move bits of crap out of the way [05:03] mem hog [05:04] ajmitch, refresh it , named the file the same [05:04] imbrandon: right, so it's 'just' a single dual-core CPU [05:05] heh darn [05:05] still nice considering what i'm paying and what i get ;) [05:05] heh [05:05] cpuinfo is a bit misleading in that sense [05:05] not really [05:06] 2.4 didn't really know about multi-core machines [05:06] true [05:06] you'll see that 2.6 has the physical id [05:06] & the core id [05:06] no idea why they still are running 2.4 [05:06] security man hours probably [05:07] its debian 3.1 based iirc , lemme look [05:07] yea [05:07] imbrandon@gobstopper:~$ cat /etc/issue [05:07] Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 [05:08] "The New queue is empty." [05:08] that's weird [05:08] sabdfl uses KDE himself, right? [05:08] minghua, he uses both, kde on his desktop and gnome on his laptop [05:09] but he's on his laptop more [05:09] ;) [05:09] Oh. he must have really good context switching then :-) [05:10] should.. use... gnome.. more [05:10] here we go [05:10] (in case anybody wonders why I am asking this -- sabdfl became the first patron of KDE (whatever that means)) [05:11] minghua, it means he donated $6000 USD a year to KDE e.V basicly [05:11] wow, neat sum. [05:12] the article that tells about him becoming the first patron also tells how to become one ;) [05:12] I'm donating muchof my time using KDE ;p === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU [05:12] imbrandon: yes I know it's donation related, I was just commenting on the word choice [05:12] Freenode Staff == Awesome :P [05:12] we all donate as much by way of man hours I guess :) [05:12] Kyral, yes they are ;) [05:12] honestly I don't know what patron usually means [05:13] I think I heard it first in "memoir of a geisha" :-) [05:13] patron normaly means somehting like "regular customer" or something close [05:13] leaste in us english [05:13] minghua: hmm a somewhat different kind of `patron' ;) [05:14] if you goto the same petrol station to get your fule regularly you are a "patron" of that petrol station [05:14] yeah [05:14] fuel* [05:15] I suppose the patron used by KDE is different than the one imbrandon talks about [05:15] minghua, no it means they have made a promis to donate a set ammount over a set time [05:15] e.g. $6000 USD a year [05:15] as dictionary.cambridge.org has patron (SUPPORTER) and patron (CUSTOMER) [05:16] imbrandon: yes, yes, your explanation is quite clear [05:16] more like a pledge [05:16] well if you really think about it a customer is a supporter, e.g. if you buy windows your supporting it ;) [05:16] it's just always hard to understand a completely new word [05:17] but a supporter is not always a customer, but a customer is always a supporter [05:17] err yea [05:18] zakame, yea like a pledge [05:18] there is a lesser pledge i forget the "title" but its only $120 USD a year, i thought about that one possibly later [05:18] ( once i get some more contract work, its getting scarce ) [05:20] anyone wanna pay me to do something hehehe ( joking really ) [05:21] hehe === imbrandon yawns [05:27] hrm [05:27] sooo anyting on the table tonight ? ajmitch how are umet deps [05:28] imbrandon: way too much work to do [05:28] any work i can knock out that needs to be done and can be accepted ? [05:28] i'm bored tonight [05:28] most of my other stuff has to wait for +1 [05:29] please just do it [05:30] I worry that this freeze has really slowed down the number of fixes done in universe [05:30] just do what ? some unmet deps stuff ? or you got something else more pressing [05:31] unmet deps stuff is fine [05:31] ok so normal bug fixes [05:31] for uni [05:31] as well as FTBFS stuff that may have been filed [05:31] unmet deps is important as those packages can't even be installed [05:34] ajmitch, I think it has, yes... This short release cycle has in general been terrible for fixing things. [05:34] That reminds me... === Fujitsu uploads mpd. [05:35] Fujitsu: I mean that the rate of fixes has dropped off a lot int he last week [05:35] ajmitch, naturally. The freeze will always slow things down. [05:35] we've been disorganised :) [05:35] bug 47493 can be closed correct ? [05:35] Malone bug 47493 in aegis "[UNMETDEPS] Build dependencies missing" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/47493 [05:35] the freeze *shouldn't* be slowing you down [05:36] ajmitch, well i took it as like main where only very very trivial fixes or very very critical [05:36] I don't want it to slow people down at all [05:36] unmet deps are critical enough [05:36] right [05:36] imbrandon: close it [05:36] Work has ground me to a halt :-( [05:36] bddebian: same, I've got a very pressing deadline in 2 weeks [05:36] and that's the limit of how far we can push the deadline [05:37] so I shouldn't be harassing you on irc now :) [05:37] hehe [05:37] :-) [05:37] ajmitch, it's the concept that it's frozen that is the problem. Even if exceptions are easy to get, the mere fact that it's frozen causes people to think that less is going to be happening, so they do less... [05:38] Plus, I've got exams, so I'm not doing a whole lot. [05:41] wow debhelper >> 3.0.0 [05:41] heh [05:41] volunteers' real life usually don't mix well with release deadlines, as Debian has demonstrated in the past :-) [05:42] No kidding :-( [05:42] Fujitsu: I guess we may have to look at the universe freeze again for the next release [05:43] ajmitch, I think so... And we need to not have UniverseFreeze and [insert major main/restricted milestone here] on the same day. [05:44] well to be very honest with the way universe works since its not on the CD i see having a UVF a month before release but no real all out freeze untill release [05:44] just inho [05:44] imho* [05:45] I was surprised that we went with it [05:46] I was hoping that it wouldn't discourage people from making fixes [05:46] and really truefully i would love to see a prepetual universe and main releases only [05:46] but i dont know how well that would work [05:46] it used to be that we'd upload to universe up until release :) [05:46] yea but i mean even after rlease where breezy dapper edgy all use the same universe [05:46] blame the "everything converted to LP" move :-) [05:46] pool [05:47] although that wouldent be as good as it is in my mind in the real world [05:47] as linking against diffrent gnome/kde version etc would suck [05:47] was just a passing thought === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] yea ajmitch i dont see the need tbh for a freeze for universe, UVF yea but not "all out freeze" [05:48] like now === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] imbrandon: we could just get Hobbsee to fix it all [05:53] hah [05:53] dream on [05:53] ajmitch: what do i need to fix now? [05:53] heh [05:53] Hobbsee: the universe [05:54] ajmitch, ok if a package r/c a package and has replaced it but another package builds against it , shlibs is still picking up the old name, does it need a Provides: XXX too ? [05:54] you shouldn't have anything important like exams on [05:54] imbrandon: no, shlibs needs fixed [05:55] And I'll throw in multiverse too. [05:55] though don't rely on anything I say today [05:56] hum ok where is it willing shlibs what it provides /me hates libs sometimes [05:56] s/willing/telling [05:56] eg it builds against libsdl-sge-dev but shlibs finds libsdl-sgec2 but libsdl-sge r/c it [05:57] thus unmetdep [05:57] in that other package [05:57] let me look.. [05:57] ajmitch: oh right. not a problem. [05:57] Hobbsee, yea wave your pointy stick at the universe, maybe it will fix its self [05:58] or gets more broken, you never know [05:58] lol [05:58] The universe will assemble itself out of fear of Hobbsee! [05:58] what a screwed up library package [05:59] hahaha i was thinking that but i'm a lib newb kinda so i thought it might have just been me [05:59] I hope they're avoiding SONAME in the package name just because the library is unstable === imbrandon is glad he wasent wrong [05:59] dh_makeshlibs -V 'libsdl-sge (>= 030809-1)' [06:00] right, so that *should* be the right shlibs line [06:00] Gnight folks. Keep up the good work! === ajmitch checks the package [06:00] night bddebian [06:01] :0:> less /var/lib/dpkg/info/libsdl-sge.shlibs [06:01] libSGE 0 libsdl-sge (>= 030809-1) [06:01] ok, that still looks sane [06:01] ajmitch, hrm yea BUT libsdl-ruby1.8 still picks up libsdl-sgec2 for some reason [06:01] Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1), libgl1-mesa | libgl1, libruby1.8 (>= 1.8.4), libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.5), libsdl-mixer1.2 (>= 1.2.6), libsdl-sgec2, libsdl-ttf2.0-0, libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1), libsmpeg0 === ajmitch rebuilds libsdl-ruby1.8 for fun [06:01] i just did [06:02] thats what sent me on this chase [06:02] hehe [06:02]