[12:00] <steamR> Ninja562: matter of taste only. In embedded movies, you will hardly notice the diff
[12:00] <Ninja562> steamR: who is plf ?
[12:01] <steamR> PenguinLiberationFoundation
[12:01] <steamR> a repository
[12:01] <POVaddct> steamR: PenguinLibrationFront
[12:01] <talisein> MonsieurBon: try "which aticonfig"
[12:01] <talisein> tell me if that gives you any output
[12:01] <Ninja562> Liberate those Penguins (I had no idea they were repressed)
[12:02] <steamR> POVaddct: sorry :-)
[12:02] <MonsieurBon> talisein: /usr/bin/aticonfig
[12:02] <menko> hi, I want to install ubuntu with an english interface, but with a japanese input method. Can this be specified during the install?
[12:02] <talisein> aticonfig --initial=dual-head --tvf=<TV standard> --tvs=VIDEO --hsync2=<TV hsync> --vrefresh2=<TV vrefresh> --iagp=off --agpl=off --ovon=1 -v
[12:02] <bluefox83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27040/
[12:02] <talisein> fill in the stuff in the <>'s, and that should generate an xorg.conf that will work
[12:03] <talisein> taken from http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out#ATI-proprietary-drivers but should work for ubuntu too
[12:03] <talisein> !tvout
[12:03] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[12:03] <POVaddct> bluefox83: line 023 looks strange
[12:03] <talisein> ubotu, learn about ATI will ya? ;P
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about learn about ATI will ya? ;P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <MonsieurBon> talisein: thanks, how do i get the stuff in the <>'s?
[12:04] <bluefox83> POVaddct, yeah, i pasted it wrong
[12:04] <POVaddct> bluefox83: and the line with misc fonts is missing
[12:04] <globe> Is there a way to run a remote xwindows session?
[12:04] <bluefox83> POVaddct, i removed it cus it said it couldn't locate them
[12:05] <POVaddct> bluefox83: the misc fonts are mandatory
[12:05] <talisein> MonsieurBon: dunno. If you're in america, then tv standard is ntsc-m, hsync might be 30-81 vrefresh maybe 56-88
[12:05] <MonsieurBon> talisein: I'm in europe. TV Standard would be PAL, i think, right?
[12:05] <wolfbane_691> hello every 1
[12:05] <talisein> which country?
[12:06] <MonsieurBon> talisein: Switzerland
[12:06] <talisein> PAL-G
[12:06] <wolfbane_691> i have a problem with my hard drive can some 1 help
[12:06] <Ninja562> steamR: PLF has mandrake packages, OK 2 use with Dapper?
[12:06] <talisein> wolfbane_691: what's the problem?
[12:06] <wolfbane_691> lol
[12:06] <globe> wolfbane_691: what is your problem
[12:06] <wolfbane_691> im on linux
[12:06] <talisein> that's not your problem
[12:06] <SurfnKid> wolfbane_691, bang it, if you hear things moving inside, it worked
[12:06] <MonsieurBon> talisein: can I find out the rest somehow?
[12:07] <SurfnKid> :P
[12:07] <talisein> MonsieurBon: google ATI TV-Out HOWTO
[12:07] <wolfbane_691> well its mounted but when i try to move a file in there it wont let me
[12:07] <globe> wolfbane_691: is it mounted readonly?
[12:07] <wolfbane_691> it says i dont have access
[12:08] <talisein> wolfbane_691: use sudo
[12:08] <wolfbane_691> did i mention im a complete noob to linux
[12:08] <talisein> wolfbane_691: whatever command you did that resulted in your not having access, prepend sudo to it
[12:09] <globe> wolfbane_691: are you doing this on a terminal (typing) or in the windows-like environment?
[12:09] <talisein> yeah that's important i guess
[12:09] <wolfbane_691> ok
[12:09] <superm1> I was a bit curious about the webspace that I see people having at people.ubuntu.com.  is this available only to those employed by canonical?  or to ubuntu members?  or what?
[12:09] <wolfbane_691> what command line do i use
[12:10] <LjL> superm1: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic as well
[12:10] <superm1> LjL, Thx.  wasn't sure whree best to ask
[12:10] <Gnomer__> mnepton isn't here...Depressing.
[12:11] <wolfbane_691> im in disk manager and partitions
[12:11] <wolfbane_691> what do i put in for access path
[12:11] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, where do you want the drive to be located (When you try to view it?)
[12:11] <wolfbane_691> home folder
[12:11] <bluefox83> how do you get the bus id for your video card?
[12:12] <bluefox83> i think that is the problem...
[12:12] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, so create a folder in your home folder
[12:12] <POVaddct> bluefox83: lspci
[12:12] <Gnomer__> mkdir ~/slave
[12:12] <Gnomer__> And use /home/youruser/slave
[12:12] <POVaddct> bluefox83: you can comment out the bus id as well
[12:12] <Gnomer__> As the access point.
[12:12] <wolfbane_691> ok
[12:13] <bluefox83> POVaddct, 0000:02:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]  (rev a3   would be what?
[12:13] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, I would tell you to just use /home/, but that would make bad things happen to you and small children.
[12:13] <Adammk> i need help restoring default Login window settings, i'm in recovery mode since it won't let me log in normally at all. how do do i do this? is there and where is a config file i could edit?
[12:14] <POVaddct> bluefox83: yes. the bus id is 0:2:f. but you can omit the bus id in xorg.conf if there is only one card
[12:14] <talisein> Adammk: try "mv /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf.old" and then "aptitude reinstall gdm"
[12:14] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx
[12:14] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, anytime.
[12:14] <Ninja562> Is there somewhere else besides PLF I can get video player software ?
[12:15] <Gnomer__> Ninja562, you're talkin' about codecs? Or actual video players?
[12:15] <Ninja562> Players
[12:15] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx alot gnomer
[12:15] <Sprattelkula> stupid beta-driver.. garrr
[12:15] <POVaddct> Ninja562: mplayer is in multiverse repo. works for me.
[12:15] <Gnomer__> Ninja562, Meh, dunno really. I only use 3.
[12:15] <Gnomer__> Mplayer, Totem, and VLC
[12:15] <Ninja562> OK, how 2 install Mplyer?
[12:16] <Gnomer__> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[12:16] <BDerwent> can someone tell me how to change the recovery mode login to the dvorak layout?
[12:16] <POVaddct> Ninja562: enable multiverse repository and then sudo apt-get install mplayer
[12:16] <Gnomer__> Or get automatix if you need the firefox extension, plus more fun.
[12:16] <harisund> Hello! I was just wondering, what does the term "upstream" mean? I see it so often in the Ubuntu wiki.. people talk about patches before making it to upstream.. what are they referring to?
[12:16] <Adammk> ok booting back up...
[12:17] <talisein> harisund: ubuntu maintainers don't usually write the software themselves. Upstream is where the software actually comes from.
[12:17] <HumanPrototype> what wireless drivers are installed in dapper by default?
[12:17] <harisund> talisein, so who maintains 'upstream' ? Or what is the role of the ubuntu maintainers?
[12:17] <talisein> harisund: like GNOME, for instance, comes from gnome.org.
[12:17] <superm1> harisund, upstream means the original developers.  Say for example during an upstream version freeze, we can't pull new versions.  But we can pull debian revisions of the same version
[12:17] <LjL> harisund: by "upstream" we mean the various actual developers of the various actual software programs
[12:18] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: many :) madwifi, rt2500, rt2570, ipw2100, ipw2200, ipw3945, prism54, bcm43xx, ...
[12:18] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, you have to install them yourself..At least I did.
[12:18] <talisein> harisund: ubuntu maintainers take a package from upstream and "package" it for ubuntu, and make sure that one specific version plays nice with everything else in ubuntu
[12:18] <harisund> ah .. thanks talisein, superm1 and LjL ..
[12:18] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, madwifi is outdated, use madwifi-ng
[12:18] <Adammk> ok i'm able to log in, but the GUI is gone. it's just the terminal.
[12:18] <Gnomer__> They stopped development on the original.
[12:18] <talisein> harisund: upstream can also refer to Debian, as ubuntu pulls its packages from the debian distro
[12:18] <harisund> talisein, and after making sure of that, they send it to the Ubuntu repositories?
[12:18] <talisein> harisund: yes
[12:18] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: i think is it madwifi-ng anyway
[12:19] <harisund> talisein, ah! revelation! thanks ..
[12:19] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, you have to download and compile madwifi-ng
[12:19] <Adammk> how do i get back into the GNOME GUI?
[12:19] <Gnomer__> Or, at least it wasn't in any of my repositories (sp?)
[12:19] <talisein> Adammk: Ctrl-alt-F7
[12:19] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: okay. btw, so far old madwifi works for me. also in monitor and master mode.
[12:19] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, meh, if it works for you more power to ya.
[12:19] <Gnomer__> ;)
[12:20] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, can you create VAPs with madwifi? (The origninal)
[12:20] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: i don't need the new features of madwifi-ng. i dont have to run multiple virtual APs
[12:20] <Adammk> didn't do anything. i disable keyboard shortcuts in System>Preferences bacause i had some probs
[12:20] <HumanPrototype> POVaddct, is there a way to find which driver i need
[12:20] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, what kind of card do you have?
[12:21] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: identify your card's chipset
[12:21] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, its in an acer laptop
[12:21] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: built-in?
[12:21] <HumanPrototype> POVaddct, yes, lspci = atheros comms AR5005g
[12:22] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: try madwifi
[12:22] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, so atheros is your chipset
[12:22] <Gnomer__> You need madwifi/-ng, either works.
[12:22] <Adammk> talisein it didn't do anything. i had to disable all shortcuts in System>Preferences cause of probs
[12:22] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: though i don't know if this particular atheros chipset is supported
[12:22] <Gnomer__> Lemme check
[12:23] <bluefox83> POVaddct, what is this -> FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[12:23] <Pinkle_Rose> hi
[12:23] <POVaddct> bluefox83: that's only a warning, no error
[12:23] <HumanPrototype> POVaddct, there is no madwifi package but its referenced by xen-restricted modules and linux-restricted...
[12:23] <bluefox83> POVaddct, well right now that is all i am getting, and X still wont start
[12:23] <Pinkle_Rose> anyone know how to turn-on visualizations in amarok on dapper?
[12:23] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: madwifi should be installed by default
[12:24] <talisein> Adammk: what is the error that is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:24] <HumanPrototype> POVaddct, its a server install
[12:24] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, "not working with version 0.9.2, dmesg reports: "unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)""
[12:24] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: ah, i see
[12:24] <Pinkle_Rose> in forum i found info to compile 0.4.0 but it doesnt work
[12:24] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, he needs to use Madwifi-ng..:P
[12:25] <bluefox83> POVaddct, how do i fix the security policy file then?
[12:25] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, how would i obtain that?
[12:25] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: thats a real reason for -ng  :)
[12:25] <Gnomer__> "not working with version 0.9.2, dmesg reports: "unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)"" and then under that "I can confirm that this chipset works great with the madwifi-ng drivers on Debian Testing. Also monitor mode."
[12:26] <POVaddct> bluefox83: the security policy file message is also non-fatal. there must be another reason for Xorg not running.
[12:26] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, go to the madwifi site and look for it's download link.
[12:27] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, http://snapshots.madwifi.org/madwifi-ng/
[12:27] <globe> is there a way to get a remote x windows session to my ubuntu from winxp?
[12:27] <POVaddct> bluefox83: i just checked, i get this message here and my X is running
[12:27] <Adammk> there shouldn't be any error. i was just looking at settings for the login window, changed two things to 'Chooser' under 'Configure X Server' because i thought that would change it to a thing like in windows xp where u choose ur user name and then type ur password, but i seemed to have changed it to a kind of network login thing, and can't figure out how to log back in locally to change it back
[12:27] <bluefox83> POVaddct, could it be because i am trying to start gdm from terminal?
[12:27] <Gnomer__> globe, whats wrong with VNC?
[12:28] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, ah the sweet smell of fresh code
[12:28] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, my thanks to you
[12:28] <POVaddct> bluefox83: from what terminal?
[12:28] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, don't forget POVaddct :P
[12:28] <bluefox83> POVaddct, ssh
[12:28] <HumanPrototype> POVaddct, thank you very much for your help
[12:28] <talisein> Adammk: the config file you want is /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:28] <joeCoT> globe: system: preferences: remote desktop. Enable it
[12:28] <bluefox83> POVaddct, i ssh'd into my friend's system to fix his xorg.conf
[12:28] <Adammk> how do i edit it and fix it?
[12:28] <joeCoT> globe: but i recommend just using vnc
[12:28] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, You'll love -ng because you can create VAP
[12:28] <Gnomer__> :D
[12:28] <POVaddct> bluefox83: should be no problem
[12:28] <javaJake> Hey guys!
[12:28] <bluefox83> only i don't think the resolutions he wanted to use are supported
[12:29] <javaJake> I was wondering, how do I use "read -t" in sh?
[12:29] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: you're welcome
[12:29] <globe> okay thanks...i'll look it up thanks
[12:29] <javaJake> I am attempting to use this as a startup script, but when it times out the program quits
[12:29] <javaJake> Doesn't do anything
[12:29] <javaJake> After the read
[12:29] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, now to enjoy a nice command line install...
[12:29] <javaJake> Any ideas?
[12:29] <Ninja562> Hello, I upgraded to Dapper, but my Synaptic manger still says Hoary, WtH?
[12:29] <Adammk> talisein whats the command to edit the .conf file?
[12:29] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, My favorite kind ;)
[12:30] <talisein> Adammk: you probably want to use nano if you don't want to use vim
[12:30] <bluefox83> POVaddct, how do you check remotely to see if X is running?
[12:30] <Gnomer__> Man, it feels like it's midnight, and it's only 5:30
[12:30] <POVaddct> bluefox83: "pidof X" or "pidof Xorg" should return a process id (number) if it is running
[12:31] <joeCoT> Gnomer__ : i'm sure it's midnight _somewhere_ :)
[12:31] <LjL> midnight and a half here
[12:31] <Gnomer__> joeCoT, :p
[12:31] <wolfbane_691> im haveing a lil trouble with ymessenger for linux
[12:31] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: it's 0:31 here
[12:31] <mikm[laptop] > Not really, unless there's GMT -0030
[12:31] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, use gaim.
[12:31] <ryanpg> I'm experiencing badness with grub... can't boot new kernels
[12:31] <bluefox83> POVaddct, "pidof X" returns a number, but "pidof Xorg" does not...
[12:31] <wolfbane_691> is there any diffrence between the 2
[12:32] <wolfbane_691> ?
[12:32] <Pinkle_Rose> anyone know how to turn-on visualizations in amarok on dapper?
[12:32] <POVaddct> bluefox83: so X _is_ running
[12:32] <joeCoT> time to check the zone.tab ...
[12:32] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, plenty. I just think Gaim is better.
[12:32] <wolfbane_691> i dont too much like it
[12:32] <Gnomer__> I can handle all the messengers, instead of just the one. And do so at the same time.
[12:32] <Gnomer__> It*
[12:32] <ryanpg> currently / is mounted on /dev/.static/dev/hdc3 but when I put that in my menu.lst I get an error saying the partition isn't valid
[12:32] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, well, whats the problem?
[12:32] <POVaddct> bluefox83: if your friend's display remains black, it probably can't handle the resolution and/or frequency
[12:33] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, will I need linux-source?
[12:33] <wolfbane_691> its not installing when ever i click on it
[12:33] <bluefox83> POVaddct, we got it, thanks :)
[12:33] <LjL> mikm[laptop] : some places *do* have half-a-hour (or even stranger) shifts relative to the nearest standard timezone. wouldn't know if that applied anywhere near GMT, though
[12:33] <POVaddct> bluefox83: cool :)
[12:33] <ryanpg> the only kernel that boots for me has root=UUID=b6440937-c568-449b-b037-d591e88a081d in it's grub conf
[12:33] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, from the "add aplications" or synaptic?
[12:33] <POVaddct> bluefox83: what was it?
[12:33] <wolfbane_691> it says log in as root but how do i do that
[12:33] <bluefox83> POVaddct, unsupported resolution
[12:33] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, I'm not going to lie, it's been a while since I installed it.
[12:33] <wolfbane_691> in the terminal
[12:33] <POVaddct> bluefox83: ah okay
[12:34] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, do "sudo apt-get install whattoinstallhere"
[12:34] <bluefox83> POVaddct, he's using a nvidia card and the default NV driver
[12:34] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, thanks
[12:34] <POVaddct> bluefox83: yeah, i saw it in the xorg.conf file
[12:34] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, "sudo" is the way to do things as root in linux without logging in as root, and by default your user in ubuntu is already in the sudoers file. That shouldn't be a problem.
[12:35] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, just remember, sudo is your best friend..Or at least it's mine.
[12:35] <POVaddct> bluefox83: i tend to use conversative defaults in xorg.conf and then try higher values
[12:35] <StillANoob> Hey everyone!  Quick question:
[12:35] <StillANoob> I'm doing an ls -R | grep \.avi
[12:35] <Gnomer__> StillANoob, rather then saying you have a question, perhaps you should ask it.
[12:36] <bluefox83> POVaddct, i didn't realise my values were not supported by the default nv driver or i woulda never put them into his config file :D
[12:36] <StillANoob> how do I get ls (or other command) to list the full path to the file?
[12:36] <StillANoob> i've tried -l, -a - I can't figure it out
[12:36] <Adammk> can someone plz go to their /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ so i can fix my conf file? preferably some1 who's not changed any 'Login window' settings
[12:36] <POVaddct> bluefox83: not supported by the driver or by the display? (i suspect the latter is the case)
[12:37] <talisein> StillANoob: pwd will tell you the full path to the directory you are in
[12:37] <StillANoob> i'm doing an ls piped to grep
[12:37] <StillANoob> so I can't do a pwd
[12:37] <StillANoob> ls -R | grep \.avi
[12:37] <StillANoob> to find all avi files in a directory
[12:37] <StillANoob> i get a list - but it doesn't tell me where in the heirarchy they are
[12:37] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx
[12:38] <POVaddct> StillANoob: use this: find . -name "*.avi"
[12:38] <wolfbane_691> thats it for my dumb questions for the day
[12:38] <wolfbane_691> thanx for the help
[12:38] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, feel free to ask more if you need help
[12:38] <wolfbane_691> will do
[12:38] <Gnomer__> ;)
[12:38] <Adammk> plz?
[12:39] <StillANoob> looks like it might work - cept I don't see a recursive flag?
[12:39] <talisein> find is recursive on its own
[12:39] <StillANoob> or is it recursive and the . is the directory I'm starting in
[12:39] <talisein> yes
[12:40] <StillANoob> hrm...
[12:40] <Adammk> oh well i guess i'll just reinstall ubuntu again and ask before i change System>Administration settings
[12:40] <StillANoob> that was it
[12:40] <StillANoob> thanks a lot talisein
[12:40] <StillANoob> !!!
[12:40] <POVaddct> Adammk: http://84.179.92.240:29577/
[12:41] <HumanPrototype> how do i find the vga option to set my console to a higher res
[12:41] <BDerwent> somebody please tell me how to change the recovery mode settings to the dvorak layout
[12:41] <POVaddct> Adammk: that is the default gdm config from xubuntu
[12:41] <Adammk> thanks hopefully this doesn't take longer than reinstalling ubuntu
[12:41] <jasper`> Adammk, how did the network go?
[12:43] <POVaddct> Adammk: downloaded all files? so i can stop the http server
[12:43] <Adammk> ya
[12:43] <POVaddct> Adammk: okay
[12:44] <AngryElf> does ubuntu have support for UPS? -- i.e. automatic shutdown when the power cuts out?
[12:45] <DieSphin2> Experincia com algum cliente de oracle, no linux?
[12:45] <AngryElf> hmm, google answered that -- how about this.....is it any good?
[12:45] <DieSphin2> Oops, sorry, wrong channel
[12:45] <Adammk> jasper i reinstalled ubuntu and got the network working. i thought i'd be eaiser than doing a ton of commands i don't understand and bothering everyone on this channel. maybe i'll do the same if this doesn't work for the login window
[12:45] <DieSphin2> Anyway, anyone with experience with an oracle client in linux? Just need a hint.....
[12:46] <timmow> help! I just installed edgy, and now can't modprobe dm-mod or get lvm2 working at all
[12:46] <timmow> and my home dir is in lvm2
[12:48] <kupesoft> how do I check if I can use my modem with hylafax?
[12:49] <Adammk> YES it worked. now i can fix it.
[12:50] <Adammk> talisein: I only have 1 question: did "aptitude reinstall gdm" hurt anything since it wasn't the problem? (at least i think it wasn't)
[12:50] <globe> Gnomer__: about running vnc...I am running a headless machine, I don't want to have to login to x in order to get remote access (kind of defeats the purpose)
[12:51] <globe> Gnomer__ : is there a way to get the vnc server started w/o starting x?
[12:51] <talisein> Adammk: it shouldn't have
[12:51] <Maxilein> Hallo!
[12:51] <Werokh> got a question, hopefully somebody knows. In this doc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500, section 2.1, how would you do that without a gui? like, what files do I edit?
[12:52] <illuvator> join #beryl
[12:52] <illuvator> #beryl
[12:52] <illuvator> quit
[12:52] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, thanks once again
[12:52] <LjL> illuvator: commands on IRC must be prefixed with a slash ( / )
[12:52] <InnerFIRE> anyone use synce?
[12:53] <globe> LjL: i think he quit ;-)
[12:53] <kitche> ah it works with that slash as well :)
[12:53] <LjL> InnerFIRE: i would, if it worked
[12:53] <LjL> globe: ... and then joined again
[12:53] <InnerFIRE> so you have tried configuring it?
[12:53] <InnerFIRE> you still may be able to help me
[12:54] <LjL> InnerFIRE: not really, i just installed synce-kde and hoped it worked, which it didn't
[12:54] <Werokh> maybe there's just a command i'm missing, is there a command to "activate" a wlan connection?
[12:54] <InnerFIRE> there are a ton of other things you have to download and configure
[12:54] <InnerFIRE> it works.. just not with some devices i think
[12:54] <InnerFIRE> also..
[12:54] <Adammk> POVaddct: sry, but can u bring back up that http server i didn't get ALL the files, and now i think i need them
[12:55] <Dario> alo, i have an old laptop with maybe 512 memory (maybe even 256). would it take a long time to boot ubuntu from cd for the 1st time?
[12:55] <Sleeping_Sloth> evening all.
[12:55] <InnerFIRE> if you have a device running ce 05
[12:55] <InnerFIRE> its more difficult
[12:55] <illuvator> lJl: yeah sorry had typed too quickly without thinking
[12:55] <Sleeping_Sloth> I've been out of the loop or a while- is there any news on flash for dapper64?
[12:55] <ppj1010> guys
[12:56] <ppj1010> the vooodoo driver is called voodoo right
[12:56] <LjL> InnerFIRE, in theory, at least with my PocketPC2002 device, it should Just Work. which it did, at some stage, sometimes, when i was on Debian
[12:56] <ppj1010> thats it
[12:56] <InnerFIRE> k
[12:57] <InnerFIRE> i feel like the #synce channel should be more active lol
[12:57] <InnerFIRE> and linux, all distros should start catering more to business's i feel
[12:58] <ppj1010> .
[01:00] <cpk2> Werokh: you tried sudo ifup wlan0
[01:01] <J-_> will xubuntu work fine with an apache LAMP server?
[01:02] <cpk2> J-_: of course
[01:02] <J-_> k
[01:02] <AsheD> is there a best way to rename directories via the terminal?
[01:02] <J-_> thanks
[01:02] <cpk2> J-_: you dont even need X for lamp
[01:03] <cbo> AsheD mv <old name> <new name>
[01:03] <AsheD> figured
[01:04] <ClayG> does anyone off hand know where the setting is to make thunderbird automatically "top post" instead of "bottom post" to replies?  I have looked through prefs and i would think it would be in the composition tab but i cant find it anywhere.
[01:06] <cbo> ClayG look in account settings.
[01:07] <ClayG> hmmm i never thought of that
[01:07] <ClayG> cbo, THANKS
[01:07] <BDerwent> someone please tell me how to quit x "ctl + alt + backspace doesn't work"
[01:08] <BDerwent> or ctl + alt + f1 - f6
[01:08] <hondje> BDerwent: in a terminal, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop perhaps
[01:09] <BDerwent> alright, here goes
[01:09] <Flyoc> Hi, I have a problem with a fresh Dapper install, I can't install libgtk2 for some reason.
[01:10] <InnerFIRE> anyone know what libslang is and where i can get it?
[01:11] <hondje> InnerFIRE: the package is libslang2
[01:11] <Flyoc> so I cant really install any wm
[01:12] <cbo> Flyoc errors?
[01:13] <Flyoc> cbo: libgtk2.0-0: Depends: libgtk2.0-bin (>= 2.8.6-0ubuntu2.1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:13] <Flyoc> cbo: and the same with libpango
[01:13] <BDerwent> well that didn't work.  it did the same thing as ctl + alt + backspace (blank screen, accepts no input)
[01:14] <InnerFIRE> is it in synaptic?
[01:14] <pvt_harv> hi there
[01:14] <cbo> Flyoc what happens if you try to install libgtk2.0-bin ?
[01:14] <eedge> What's a good torrent client, apart from azureus?
[01:15] <Flyoc> cbo: libgtk2.0-bin: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:15] <Flyoc> I just don't get it
[01:15] <BDerwent> bittornado
[01:15] <cpk2> eedge: azureus is nice but the only problem is its a little behind in the repos =)
[01:15] <cpk2> gnome has its own bt client i thought
[01:15] <pvt_harv> yes
[01:17] <BDerwent> let me ask again...is there a way to quit x and go to a terminal screen that doesn't freeze everythitg?
[01:17] <A[D] minS> Nighty all
[01:17] <BDerwent> *everything
[01:18] <InnerFIRE> what is this..
[01:18] <InnerFIRE> src/Makefile.am:4: invalid unused variable name: `AM_LDFLAGS'
[01:18] <InnerFIRE> tests/CeRapiInvoke/Makefile.am:2: invalid unused variable name: `AM_LDFLAGS'
[01:18] <InnerFIRE> tests/rapi/Makefile.am:2: invalid unused variable name: `AM_LDFLAGS'
[01:18] <lufis> When there's a brown-out, my DSL modem immediately goes off and resets the connection. Something between Ubuntu and the modem doesn't get sync'ed right and I can't access the interweb until I restart. Is there an alternative method?
[01:18] <cbo> Flyoc are you using apt-get or synaptic?
[01:19] <LoRez> lufis: get a UPS?
[01:19] <cpk2> lufis: maybe bringing the interface down then up?
[01:19] <antigroove> how do you do that, cpk2?
[01:19] <lufis> cpk2: Bringing the what to the what? :P
[01:20] <no0tic> Hi, I need to create a 256MB ramdisk, how can I do?
[01:20] <cpk2> assuming you are connected to the dsl modem via eth0 it would be sudo ifdown eth0
[01:20] <cpk2> then sudo ifup eth0
[01:20] <antigroove> System->Administration->Networking?
[01:20] <lufis> cpk2: Ah, thanks
[01:20] <lufis> cpk2: I'll try that next time
[01:20] <aixing> BDerwent: yes there is
[01:21] <SnowLprd> lufis: connecting your DSL modem to a UPS device will also help a lot
[01:21] <lufis> antigroove: I thought that deactivating/activating the connection in the Networking pref's would make Ubuntu re-recognize the modem but it won't
[01:21] <SnowLprd> That's how I have it set up here
[01:21] <lufis> SnowLprd: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind
[01:21] <joe_> lufis: does restarting networking do it?
[01:21] <antigroove> lufis: ahhh, ok.  good to know.
[01:22] <BDerwent> aixing, please explain
[01:22] <lufis> joo_Where is that?
[01:22] <aixing> you need to type init 1; init 2 in terminal
[01:22] <cpk2> lufis: hrmm then ifdown/ifup might not work since i think thats the same as stopping starting in the gui?
[01:22] <aixing> that should close x and take you to term only
[01:23] <aixing> when you are done init 2 should take u back in
[01:23] <lufis> cpk2: I dunno. The strange thing is, when I activate/deactivate via GUI the modem seems to begin to respond, but I still can't connect to anything.
[01:23] <BDerwent> alright, here goes
[01:23] <paco_> hola
[01:23] <cpk2> lufis: you mean after you do that you are able to ping the modem?
[01:24] <Berto> hi - i screwed up my grub list - is there an easy way to get it wiped and re-detect my kernels and windows?
[01:24] <lufis> cpk2: No, on the modem there are various LEDs. After activating via the gui "Activity" and "Internet" will be lit but I can't access any websites
[01:24] <Berto> (i'm booting successfully using CD now)
[01:24] <cpk2> lufis: but you can "talk" to the modem?
[01:24] <lufis> cpk2: How do you mean?
[01:25] <steven__> hi peeps
[01:25] <bruenig> !hi
[01:25] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:25] <aaron> Hiho
[01:26] <steven__> anyone feels like helping me to install eclipse ?
[01:26] <bruenig> !anyone
[01:26] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:26] <cpk2> lufis: just because you cant access websites doesnt mean you cant connect to the modem, if you are actually connected to the modem but cant go to any website then it sounds like a dns problem
[01:26] <bruenig> steven__, you are talking of the IDE?
[01:27] <lufis> cpk2: Ah, then that may be the case. I haven't tried. Is there a way of resetting the dns or whatever? (excuse me, this is a bit out of my field of experience)
[01:27] <steven__> for programming java
[01:27] <BDerwent> and I am back unsuccessfully
[01:27] <cpk2> lufis: if you cat /etc/resolv.conf it will tell you your current nameserver
[01:27] <bruenig> steven__, yeah, it is in the universe repo, have you enabled the universe repo?
[01:27] <cpk2> lufis: that probably wont ever change
[01:27] <steven__> dont think so
[01:28] <steven__> i'm new with this
[01:28] <BDerwent> any time I try to quit x, my computer freezes
[01:28] <lufis> cpk2: Ok. Well, whatever the issue is, it's solved by restarting.
[01:28] <steven__> dont know what universe repo is
[01:28] <bruenig> steven__, follow this tutorial, when that is done upon the terminal, Applications>Accessories>Terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install eclipse"
[01:28] <SUSaiyan> does anyone know how i can fix the black screen problem with the nvidia beta driver?
[01:28] <bruenig> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[01:28] <lufis> cpk2: So I assumed there had to be a way of restarting a specific something rather than the whole system
[01:28] <bruenig> open*
[01:29] <cpk2> lufis: but who wants to restart? How are you going to brag about uptime if you always have to restart? =P
[01:29] <bruenig> uptime bragging rights is important
[01:29] <bruenig> are*
[01:29] <lufis> cpk2: True. :P Do you know what initializes network connections?
[01:29] <aixing> BDerwent: it didnt work?
[01:29] <lufis> cpk2: At boot time?
[01:30] <BDerwent> steven, try using "easyubuntu"
[01:30] <eXistenZ> Does anyone recommend nero-linux here?
[01:30] <aixing> it worked for me hmm... you did try it with sudo <command> right?
[01:30] <steven__> it says couldnt find eclipse
[01:30] <aixing> nevr used it
[01:30] <eXistenZ> or any better burning softwares?
[01:30] <bruenig> steven__, you followed that tutorial right?
[01:30] <BDerwent> aixing: nope, froze everything with a nice black screen
[01:30] <bruenig> !info eclipse
[01:30] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[01:31] <aixing> hmm.. that sux
[01:31] <zenwhen-lt> eXistenZ, have you tried k3b?
[01:31] <eXistenZ> zenwhen, nah
[01:31] <lufis> eXistenZ: Honestly, no. It's no better than default linux cd burning software
[01:31] <zenwhen-lt> eXistenZ, it is basically nero
[01:31] <eXistenZ> zenwhen, Are you using kubuntu?
[01:31] <zenwhen-lt> go for it
[01:31] <zenwhen-lt> no
[01:31] <zenwhen-lt> I hate KDE but love k3b
[01:32] <lufis> eXistenZ: I read a review not too long ago about how it was actually really buggy.
[01:32] <jason__> what's the proper way of loading kernel modules in a specific order on Edgy?  (in my case, these modules [usbhid, appletouch]  get autoloaded anyway, so I need to do it before hotplug/discover gets around to it, or blacklist the modules and specifically load them in /etc/modules)
[01:32] <bruenig> steven__, did you?
[01:32] <BDerwent> i've been trying to use the recovery mode, but I can't login because i use the dvorak layout
[01:32] <steven__> did i what?
[01:32] <bruenig> that crazy dvorak
[01:32] <bruenig> steven__, follow that tutorial I linked you?
[01:32] <BDerwent> yeah, but i abhor qwerty
[01:32] <patbam> hi, i'm trying to get sqlite to work with php5. i just installed both and they're running, but i can't figure out how to set permissions and groups so it can write to the directory
[01:33] <Berto> Problem - When I use CD to boot from first hard disk, everything works fine.  When i don't have the CD in, it hangs before getting to the grub screen.  Any ideas why this might be happening?  I need to reset grub or something
[01:33] <steven__> private?
[01:33] <bruenig> I wish I could switch to dvorak, I don't have the self control. It is frustrating to type 15 wpm while learning when I know I can roll at 70 on qwerty
[01:33] <bruenig> steven__, follow this, and then do that command https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[01:33] <steven__> k
[01:34] <cpk2> lufis: no, but bringing the interface down then up usually fixes problems
[01:34] <lufis> cpk2: Ah, ok. Thanks.
[01:34] <cpk2> lufis: and it might be a dns problem which means there isnt really anything wrong
[01:34] <lufis> cpk2: Hmm. How would I know?
[01:35] <BDerwent> bruenig: it took getting used to, but qwerty was killing my wrists
[01:35] <cpk2> lufis: if you can ping the modem but cant ping google then it is most likely a dns issue
[01:35] <lufis> cpk2: Ah. I never tried that. Maybe it is. I'll keep it in mind next time there's a storm or something :)
[01:35] <bruenig> I know it is better, maybe if I got a real dvorak keyboard instead of just using the qwerty as a dvorak, that might help
[01:36] <bruenig> as then I could look down
[01:36] <BDerwent> but regardless, can I change the keyboard layout in the recovery mode?
[01:36] <steven__> i dont have the software properties option
[01:36] <BDerwent> i have a laptop, so i just popped the kefs off
[01:36] <BDerwent> *keys
[01:38] <BDerwent> next thing on my customization list is to change the "windows" key to a tux key
[01:39] <aixing> BDerwent: when u get that working could you document it pls
[01:39] <bruenig> steven__, ok, well you will have to do it manually. Open the terminal and do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" once in there look for lines that start like this "# deb http:/blahblahblah" for all of those lines delete the #, and then after you are done with that save and then do that command I gave you earlier
[01:39] <aixing> i would like to include it on my blog.. for when i want to do it myself
[01:40] <Poromenos> Does anyone remember of a Media Center for linux written in Python?
[01:40] <BDerwent> the tux key thing? sure!
[01:40] <Poromenos> Kind of a MediaPortal clone.
[01:41] <der0b> is anyone using an ms wireless desktop elite keyboard in dapper?  If yes, have you got the keycodes error in the messages log fixed and perhaps the wheel/forward and backward buttons working?
[01:42] <aixing> ya the tux key thing
[01:42] <BDerwent> anyway, thanks for the help guys but i need food.  I'll post the tux key thing here when I finish in a day or two
[01:42] <aixing> ok
[01:42] <Poromenos> what is the tux key thing?
[01:42] <pxeboot> anybody know why a docking station wouldnt work *quite* right
[01:43] <shwag> not sure why I am not getting syntax highlighting in vim...python or ruby
[01:43] <BDerwent> I'm sick of the windows key, so it's going to be a "tux" key
[01:43] <AFigueiredo> shwag, edit .vimrc in your home dir and add "syntax on"
[01:43] <LjL> !doesn't work > pxeboot
[01:43] <Poromenos> BDerwent: haha
[01:43] <Poromenos> nice :p
[01:44] <shwag> AFigueiredo: thanks
[01:44] <AFigueiredo> shwag, without quotes
[01:44] <BDerwent> thanks, but food beckons
[01:44] <AFigueiredo> shwag you're welcome
[01:47] <J-_> is there a LAMP guide for xubuntu?
[01:47] <deadcoder> /dev/hda8 /mnt/hda8 vfat noauto,user,exec,umask=011 0 0
[01:47] <J-_> i'll just go to the xubuntu channel heh
[01:47] <deadcoder> what does that line state to anyone here?
[01:48] <AWOSDev> I *still* have problems with MIDI.
[01:48] <deadcoder> i am having a problem, its a bug or its my understanding of fstab and mount ..... if i could know which one, i would feel a lot better
[01:48] <AWOSDev>  /dev/sequencer is always 'busy' even though fuser reports nothing.
[01:49] <cbo> deadcoder what's the problem?
[01:50] <LuisMendes> Hi, can someone please review the wiki page I've just created? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sunbird   Thanks!
[01:50] <adiboy> hello every one. i have just installed ubuntu and i set the user name to root and password to toor but now when i try to login it will not let me
[01:50] <deadcoder> well, i am trying to be make a ubuntu based distrubtion use a partition in a certain manner
[01:50] <maccam94> is there a way to have different backgrounds on different virtual desktops?
[01:50] <deadcoder> but it seems to be acting wierd, so i am trying to get someone to tell me what my line in fstab means, to see if i have the same impression that they do
[01:50] <iamtheric> a partition mount point
[01:50] <iamtheric> deadcoder, what about it?
[01:50] <iamtheric> deadcoder, its a windows partition
[01:50] <deadcoder> yes
[01:51] <deadcoder> thats right
[01:51] <iamtheric> deadcoder, i usualy just say defaults instead of noauto,user,exec
[01:51] <iamtheric> deadcoder, it might be the umask, whats the bug?
[01:51] <deadcoder> the umask implies that only root can execute binarys on that device .... am i correct?
[01:52] <iamtheric> deadcoder, yeah...
[01:52] <iamtheric> maccam94, yes
[01:52] <iamtheric> deadcoder, you sure its not ntfs?
[01:52] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes -- it's nice but not really NPOV.
[01:52] <deadcoder> the onther thing is that unless the first octal of the umask is set to 0, users can not access the directory that represents that paritions
[01:52] <edytt> Hello!! how to make the loader recognise linux again?? i installed windows after installing kubuntu
[01:52] <steven__> still not working
[01:52] <bruenig> !grub
[01:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:53] <Zaire> some ppl may want to read this its about a vuln in the nvidia kernel http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228
[01:53] <deadcoder> only root can
[01:53] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, well it is my first one.. but what is NPOV?
[01:53] <deadcoder> as soon as the first octal of the umask is set to 1, only root can access /mnt/hda8
[01:53] <iamtheric> deadcoder, so set it to 00
[01:53] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, oh oops nvm...
[01:54] <riddlebox> I have a pc that takes ddr 400 ram, and I found this on bestbuy.com is it the same? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6881797&st=ddr+400&type=product&id=1093470155472
[01:54] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NPOV
[01:54] <iamtheric> deadcoder, so whats wrong with it?
[01:54] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, that only applies to Wikipedia pages -- and when I hear of a 'Wiki page' I instantly think of Wikipedia.
[01:54] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, so it's nice.  Good job :)
[01:54] <deadcoder> the umask subtracts from the default mask which is 777. so 011 leaves 066, which is rwx,rw,rw, why would i want to change it to rwx,rwx,rw
[01:54] <iamtheric> is there a good loadbalancer/ single system image cluster programm for ubuntu?
[01:55] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, you mean the article doesn't have a neutral point of view?
[01:55] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, right...but since this is the Ubuntu wiki I don
[01:55] <hou5ton> I want to paste part of a web page into an Open Office document, but I don't want all the html with it ... just the text only. I know in Word, it gives you that option. How can I do this in OO??  Can't find it??
[01:55] <AWOSDev> 't believe it needs it :)
[01:55] <iamtheric> deadcoder i dont use umask
[01:55] <deadcoder> and that still does not explain why a regular user can not access the partition unless the execute bit is set in the first octal
[01:56] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, the article makes it seem that it is 'in the style and ease-of-use of Mozilla products' -- which is definitely POV.  Not all people (including me) find Firefox easy-to-use.
[01:56] <Sonic|Laptop> I recently made some changes to my ALSA configuration (recompiled drivers) and I went to reboot the networking failed. ifconfig returns no interfaces being up, however if I bring ath0 up I am able to get an IP with dhclient, but even after editing resolv.conf, and making sure my route was setup correctly internet is still not working
[01:56] <ixian_> is there a release date for ubuntu edgy?
[01:56] <cbo> you need a leading zero.  4 digits.  first is zero.  the last 3 are subtracted from 777 to get the umask of the file/dir.
[01:56] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, ohh that's true, I got your point
[01:56] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, but that doesn't matter, this is the Ubuntu wiki, so just ignore me.  It's great!
[01:57] <SurfnKid> how can i do a check disk on a usb mass storage drive from CLI
[01:57] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, you're right, I gotta change that, but thanks :)
[01:57] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, that's okay.  :)
[01:58] <iamtheric> deadcoder just say: /dev/hda8 /mnt/hda8 vfat defaults 0 0
[01:58] <edytt> if i rewrite the windows bootloaded will i be able to boot to windows later?
[01:59] <deadcoder> so i need a fundmental understanding and a definite result, just copy and pasting is not the solution, if i was going to do that i might as well wipe linux of my drive and go stick my head back in windows xp
[01:59] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, it is done ;)   now I'll translate this into the brazilian wiki, my mother language :)
[01:59] <deadcoder> no i need a fundmental understanding and a definite result, just copy and pasting is not the solution, if i was going to do that i might as well wipe linux of my drive and go stick my head back in windows xp
[01:59] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, cool, thanks :)
[01:59] <dbglt> hey all... I just changed all instances of dapper to edgy in my sources.list then ran an update, then a dist-upgrade... I downloaded about 660mb of stuff, and now there are a few packages it can't find and it won't let me continue with the install
[01:59] <dbglt> no idea how apt works, so any help would be good... (I'm getting 404 not found)
[02:00] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, one more thing, remove the 'very' from 'very easy to install'...then it's perfect.  A+  :)
[02:00] <edytt> Any ideas?
[02:00] <AWOSDev> dbglt, that method of upgrading really isn't supported...is it?
[02:00] <edytt> if i rewrite the windows bootloaded will i be able to boot to windows later?
[02:00] <bulmer> how do I recover whatever dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did ? nothing is displayed after a reboot ? I think the res is too high or not configured correctly
[02:00] <ixian_> i'm seeing little black squares on certain screensavers in ubuntu 6.06, like helios for example. like a particle will be fl ying around then all of a sudden i can see a grid of black squares 'behind' the image, revealed by the particle. ive never overclocked by video card or anything (radeon x850 xtpe) does anyone have an idea of what this is?
[02:01] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, that's true! it may be easy to some, but not to all
[02:01] <deadcoder> understanding what is wrong, the software or my understanding of it, is something i am trying to do.  Otherwise my i am not using linux to its full capacity
[02:01] <dbglt> AWOSDev: I have no clue whatsoever, was pointed to it on a link from this channel, and just followed it
[02:01] <deadcoder> and might as well get rid of it.
[02:01] <iamtheric> deadcoder, or you could go with linux only
[02:01] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, oh and another question, is the english good? :)
[02:01] <iamtheric> dbglt, did all your repos say that or just a couple?
[02:01] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, exactly.
[02:02] <deadcoder> the man pages are no help either\
[02:02] <J-_> LAMP
[02:02] <iamtheric> deadcoder just say: /dev/hda8 /mnt/hda8 vfat defaults 0 0, that might work
[02:02] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, yes, I couldn't tell that English wasn't your native language.  :)
[02:02] <dbglt> iamtheric: no, this is on the dist-upgrade, it can't find the packages... just on
[02:02] <dbglt> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main openoffice.org-style-default 2.0.4~rc3-0ubuntu4
[02:02] <dbglt>   404 Not Found
[02:02] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, I'm so happy to hear that, really! thank you
[02:02] <dbglt> (for about 15 packages)
[02:02] <dbglt> iamtheric: err yes actually, just the one repo then
[02:02] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, np.  Good article, I look forward to reading more :)
[02:02] <iamtheric> dbglt, do a apt-get update
[02:03] <dbglt> iamtheric: I did
[02:03] <dbglt> iamtheric: just now
[02:03] <J-_> err, where can i find an ubuntu LAMP tutorial
[02:03] <CheekyBoinc> nice "how to" LuisMendes :)
[02:03] <LuisMendes> CheekyBoinc, glad to hear that, thank you! =)
[02:03] <dbglt> is it just my mirror or do those packages not exist?
[02:03] <iamtheric> dbglt, oh well last timei used ubuntu was early last year
[02:04] <deadcoder> no, it wont work, because that allows any user to execute binarys, look at the man page for mount
[02:04] <wolfbane_691> why is it when i click on something to install nothing happens
[02:04] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, I'll try to write some more. this is only my first contribution ;)
[02:04] <deadcoder> which is exactly what i am trying to prevent
[02:04] <jspiro> hi all, what package is the Info-format documentation for dd(1) in?
[02:04] <iamtheric> deadcoder, so?
[02:04] <iamtheric> wolfbane_691, it doesnt work like that
[02:04] <wolfbane_691> how do i install
[02:05] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes glad to hear it :)
[02:05] <deadcoder> thats like installing linux because you dont want to have a machine that gets lots of spyware and booting into windows all the time
[02:05] <cpk2> J-_: the wiki page
[02:05] <iamtheric> wolfbane_691 dpkg -i i think
[02:05] <Poromenos> How do I make more workspaces in Gnome?
[02:05] <wolfbane_691> im running linux
[02:05] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: if you ask your questions carefully, and you tell us what you are trying to do and what you did already, that will make it easier for us to help.
[02:05] <iamtheric> wolfbane_691 havent used debian or ubuntu in years
[02:06] <jspiro> wolfbane_691:  you are trying to install a program?
[02:06] <deadcoder> iamtheeric: defauits lets users execute binarys , yes ?
[02:06] <wolfbane_691> trying to wine to install
[02:06] <wolfbane_691> ubuntu
[02:06] <iamtheric> deadcoder, yeah
[02:06] <s3phiroth> hi there. simple question about edgy eft. is metacity compiled with --enable-compositor ?
[02:06] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: is English your first language? we can help you in many languages including French and German.
[02:06] <jspiro> all: what package is the Info-format documentation for dd(1) in?
[02:06] <wolfbane_691> english
[02:06] <deadcoder> didnt i just say that i dont want users to be able to execute binarys, only root ?
[02:07] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: i don't understand some of your english. what does "trying to wine to install" mean?
[02:07] <deadcoder> or did that fstab go over your head
[02:07] <deadcoder> /dev/hda8 /mnt/hda8 vfat noauto,user,exec,umask=011 0 0
[02:07] <wolfbane_691> oh sry to install wine
[02:07] <Poromenos> wolfbane_691: get automatix, that'll install it
[02:07] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: what program do you want to use with wine?
[02:07] <cpk2> wine is in the repos, but you should go to winehq to get a repo with a much newer version
[02:07] <iamtheric> wolfbane_691 if its a .tar or .gz or .bz2 you need to decompress it first
[02:07] <iamtheric> deadcoder, no, used linux 3< years
[02:07] <wolfbane_691> ok get it on google?
[02:08] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: e.g. MS Office? Winamp? something else?
[02:08] <Poromenos> jspiro: winamp runs on wine?
[02:08] <jspiro> Poromenos: i doubt it.
[02:08] <jspiro> it was just an example.
[02:08] <Jaksh_eet> hello
[02:08] <cpk2> Poromenos: getting automatix will take about the same amount of work that adding the repo would
[02:08] <Poromenos> yeah, me too
[02:08] <Poromenos> cpk2: true
[02:08] <wolfbane_691> no thats it thanx
[02:08] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: what???
[02:08] <Jaksh_eet> ok, finally got Edgy AMD64 working all the way
[02:08] <Groovie> I need help with my modem.  I have it up and working.  I am using 6.06.  When I installed the pannel plugin to connect/disconnect, it worked until I did a Cntrl-Alt-Backspace to reset the X server.  Now I can't get the plugin to connect or disconect.  I have to use the network configuration utility.  I wandered if there is some sort of lock file?  Can someone help?
[02:09] <Jaksh_eet> is there any way to get codec for mp3 and such for edgy amd64?
[02:09] <jspiro> iamtheric: please do not advise people do use tools such as dpkg -i here. if you wait, someone else will help the user to use the graphical tools that ship with Ubuntu.
[02:09] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: why don't you use a more respectful nickname? :-)
[02:09] <iamtheric> deadcoder, i still dont understand what your trying to do
[02:09] <dave132> i have a problem, when i try to set a appointment in evolution it tells me that the i cannot set a appointment because the calendar is read only, how can i fix this?
[02:10] <iamtheric> jspiro, whats wrong with that?
[02:10] <eXistenZ> How can I install .jar files?
[02:10] <synphreak> Does anyone have troubleshooting advice for extremely slow bcm43xx wireless? (Dapper) I got it working using the nickm's howto on ubuntuforums.org, but it is extremely slow and i haven't been able to find a solution.
[02:10] <jspiro> iamtheric: people here are new Ubuntu users. many have no idea what a shell even is. here, we try to help people use the graphical tools when possible.
[02:10] <bulmer> jar files are similar to tar files..  jar -xvf  yourfile.jar
[02:10] <iamtheric> ok
[02:10] <jspiro> all: what package is the Info-format documentation for dd(1) in?
[02:10] <cpk2> eXistenZ: you dont install them
[02:11] <jspiro> iamtheric: :-)
[02:11] <eXistenZ> cpk2, run it
[02:11] <cpk2> normally you just run a jar
[02:11] <cbo> deadcoder: have you tried 0177 for the umask?
[02:11] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: hello?
[02:11] <steven__> can somebody help me?
[02:12] <cpk2> eXistenZ: i think java -jar runthis.jar
[02:12] <AWOSDev> synphreak, it's limited to 11 Mbps
[02:12] <steven__> trying to install eclipse
[02:12] <jspiro> eXistenZ: cpk2 is correct.
[02:12] <Jaksh_eet> jspiro Jaksh is a respectful name, it is a name I have been using for years
[02:12] <iamtheric> steven__, ok
[02:12] <steven__> ah private?
[02:12] <synphreak> AWOSDev: I realize that, but it's extremely slow as in bringing up google takes 2 or 3 minutes.
[02:12] <deadcoder> the user flag documentation in mount states explictly that it will allow do noexec for all users UNLESS it is followed by other options, therefore exec and umask=011 should only allow root to execute binarys on the parition in the fstab line
[02:12] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: but what do you claim "eet" adds?
[02:12] <eXistenZ> okay, thanks :)
[02:13] <jspiro> eXistenZ: tell us if it worked after you try.
[02:13] <deadcoder> the user flag documentation in mount states explictly that it will allow noexec for all users UNLESS it is followed by other options, therefore exec and umask=011 should only allow root to execute binarys on the parition in the fstab line
[02:13] <eXistenZ> jspiro, yes, thank you:)
[02:13] <Jaksh_eet> a surname, i still not seeing the connection
[02:13] <kupesoft> eXistenZ: I hate David Kronenberg.  He prances around the Forest Hill village in Toronto,
[02:13] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: in English, "jack sh*t" is a disrespectful term.
[02:14] <eXistenZ> kupesoft, Sprichst du Deutsch?
[02:14] <iamtheric> deadcoder, makes sense
[02:14] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: your nickname is very close to that. have you considered using something such as j_eet or eet_jaksh instead?
[02:14] <Jaksh_eet> but I am not using Jack sh*t, I am Jaksh eet
[02:14] <Groovie> Hello
[02:14] <Wazm> hello
[02:14] <Jaksh_eet> is it slang?
[02:14] <jspiro> Groovie: Wazm: hi both
[02:14] <Groovie> Can someone help me with my modem connection?
[02:14] <Jaksh_eet> if so my appologies
[02:14] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: yes. see http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_shit for a definition.
[02:15] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: no, don't worry.
[02:15] <s3phiroth> jspiro: sometimes there are words on other languages that have dirty meanings
[02:15] <Jaksh_eet> i have been discovering this
[02:15] <Jaksh_eet> slowly
[02:15] <deadcoder> /dev/hda8 /mnt/hda8 vfat noauto,user,exec,umask=011 0 0
[02:15] <kupesoft> eXistenZ: no,
[02:15] <s3phiroth> one of the best mountain bike brands in the world for example, is one of the most dirty words on my language :p
[02:15] <AWOSDev> synphreak, no clue. I only know about limitations of the driver, my experiences with it have convinced me not to use WLAN on Linux :P
[02:15] <jspiro> and there's the Nova car...
[02:15] <deadcoder> so why would i use defaults then?????????
[02:15] <Wazm> you tell me
[02:15] <jspiro> problem is, "Nova" means "don't go" in Spanish :)
[02:15] <Jaksh_eet> No va, lol no go?
[02:16] <jspiro> yeah. the Nova didn't sell too well in Spain or Brazil.
[02:16] <Jaksh_eet> that is terrible name for an automobile
[02:16] <deadcoder> if i have spent all that time on the line in fstab above ?
[02:16] <xeruno> Hello every one !
[02:16] <synphreak> AWOSDev: It's about to do the same for me I think, hah.
[02:16] <jspiro> xeruno: hi
[02:17] <xeruno> I have this question regarding Firefox printing
[02:17] <AWOSDev> synphreak well it wouldn't even *detect* my card... :X
[02:17] <Jaksh_eet> how do I install mp3 and dvd codec in Edgy amd64? or am I to soon?
[02:17] <jmark> I have a hauppaghe bt878 chipset tvcard that works great when I use a live cd, but when I boot up into ubuntu that has been installed on a workstation and followed the directions here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153935 I get a blue screen that says "no signal"
[02:17] <xeruno> Why firefox does not use Gnome Gnome Printing dialog, I get  a lot of confused user all the time!
[02:17] <jmark> anyone got ideas?
[02:17] <bruenig> Jaksh_eet, try #ubuntu+1 but I assume it would be the same as in dapper 64 bit
[02:18] <xeruno> there is a web page where i can get information about the topic?
[02:18] <Maxilein> hi
[02:18] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: edgy is still in beta. it is a good idea to check the web instead of asking on IRC. :-)
[02:18] <Maxilein> is there a package for the "X headers"?
[02:18] <Jaksh_eet> i searched but found nothing as of yet
[02:18] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: if you want help on IRC, use Ubuntu 6.06 instead.
[02:18] <steven__> iamtheric are you still there?
[02:18] <Berto> will someone please help?  My bootloader is completely fried on my laptop and i need a program to detect and restore the bootloader on /dev/sda ... i'm booted into the live cd now
[02:18] <jspiro> Maxilein: yes, but I don't know it, but why would you need them anyway?
[02:19] <jspiro> Maxilein: what are you trying to compile yourself?
[02:19] <xeruno> I think if Ubuntu want to maintain coherence  there should be at leat one printing dialog, at least for the default application like Firefox
[02:19] <iamtheric> steven__, yeah, but i cant priv
[02:19] <Maxilein> jspiro, this:  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=52013&action=view
[02:19] <bulmer> jspiro how can you tell the ubuntu version?  it doesnt seem to display it during installation
[02:19] <synphreak> AWOSDev: it actually detected mine from the start, and I have had it connect to one router without trouble.  But I tried using another router of the same brand and model and it didn't work.  Just not sure what else to try. Thanks for the help though.
[02:20] <steven__> k
[02:20] <xeruno> is there a bug filled about this?
[02:20] <steven__> i need to install java
[02:20] <bpfick> xeruno answer you private message channel
[02:20] <jspiro> bulmer: i think cat /etc/debian-* /etc/ubuntu-*
[02:20] <steven__> got .bin file but cant install it
[02:21] <bulmer> steven_ is that .bin file has execute bits on?
[02:21] <iamtheric> steven__, change permissions and just execute the file
[02:21] <Jaksh_eet> thank you for you help my friends
[02:21] <xeruno> bpfick, wait I have to identify  :S
[02:21] <Jaksh_eet> seems I just follow the Dapper Amd64 installs
[02:21] <steven__> k ill try
[02:21] <jspiro> Maxilein: what is the webpage you got that program from?
[02:22] <jspiro> bulmer: did it work?
[02:23] <AWOSDev> synphreak, I hear that Edgy should have better support, so maybe wait until the 26th...
[02:23] <AWOSDev> :)
[02:24] <bulmer> jspiro: am doing a re-install..i was not able to see the display..dont know if its toohigh res or what..thats after i tried to run dpkg-configgure xorg
[02:24] <Jbirk> test
[02:25] <AWOSDev> jbirk, Failed.  :P
[02:25] <jspiro> bulmer: dunno. for X issues, www.ubuntuforums.org may be a better place than IRC to get help
[02:25] <julian> anyone here use parsix
[02:25] <iamtheric> steven__, do it yet?
[02:25] <jspiro> bulmer: or, try a LUG. do you mind if i ask what city you live in?
[02:25] <AWOSDev> bulmer, Dapper or Edgy?
[02:25] <bulmer> san bruno kalifornia
[02:26] <steven__> how do i go into a folder :s
[02:26] <jspiro> bulmer: try a web search for either San Bruno Linux User Group or California Linux User Groups
[02:26] <AWOSDev> bulmer: are you using Dapper Drake or Edgy Eft?
[02:26] <AWOSDev> steven__ -- in the CLI or GUI?
[02:26] <steven__> terminal
[02:27] <jspiro> bulmer: or try http://linux.meetup.com - a LUG will help you in person for free. LUGs meet once a week, usually in universities or restaurants.
[02:27] <iamtheric> steven__, cd
[02:27] <bulmer> actually i already know suse..am just trying this ubuntu for the sake of curiosity..seems not user friendly
[02:27] <Berto> will someone please help?  My bootloader is completely fried on my laptop and i need a program to detect and restore the bootloader on /dev/sda ... i'm booted into the live cd now
[02:27] <steven__> damn i thought i tried it :s
[02:27] <iamtheric> fail
[02:27] <jspiro> bulmer: it is user friendly, though the IRC channel is very busy now.
[02:27] <jspiro> bulmer: try it on a different computer. you should have better luck.
[02:28] <bulmer> AWOSDev: actually i dont know what variety of Ubuntu i have, someone gave me a CDROM and I installed
[02:28] <bk> is there a way to install ubuntu not from the live cd?
[02:28] <cpk2> bk: yes, you can use a usbkey or netinstall
[02:28] <jspiro> bk: alternate install cd - see http://www.ubuntu.com and click "Alternate".
[02:28] <jspiro> bk: i mean "Download" then "Alternate"
[02:29] <iamtheric> steven__, just use nautilus or konqueror or whatever
[02:29] <jspiro> bk: why?
[02:29] <steven__> what are those?
[02:29] <bk> the pc im trying to install on is old and locks up during the partition manager
[02:29] <bk> it's actually xubuntu
[02:30] <jspiro> Berto: try sudo grub-install "(hd0)"
[02:30] <jspiro> Berto: or www.ubuntuforums.org - they know more :)
[02:30] <Berto> jspiro: good idea, even from the install cd?   ok thanks
[02:30] <cpk2> bk: xubuntu will have an alternate cd too
[02:30] <jspiro> Berto: yes and youre welcome.
[02:31] <jspiro> bk: do you know how to file a bug report?
[02:31] <Jbirk> how is it going?
[02:31] <sven-tek> Hello guys, i really need help today. I build a openoffice presentation on a edgy system. Runs fine there. But then i copied it to my dapper laptop, which i utilize to play the presentation tomorrow - openoffice crashes. Can i get Openoffice 2.0.4 for dapper somewhere?
[02:31] <Jbirk> I got the NDIS wrapper working
[02:31] <Jbirk> on my WG111v2
[02:31] <Jbirk> IT works great
[02:31] <bk> jspiro: i think the pc is just old 128mb/piii500
[02:31] <Berto> jspiro: unfortunately that didn't work:  Could not find device for /boot:  Not found or not a block device
[02:32] <jspiro> Berto: dunno. try the forums. tell them what you told me btw.
[02:32] <jspiro> Berto: or ask a LUG. can i ask what city you are in?
[02:32] <Jbirk> where can I get the ndiswrapper package?
[02:32] <Jbirk> to put on a memory stick
[02:32] <Jbirk> for a friend
[02:32] <Berto> jspiro: austin but i don't want to mess with that.  i've been using linux for long but was always lilo and never had this problem really...
[02:33] <SuperMiguel> i did all this guide (http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06) there is any way to test what i did, like how to use my mail server or my dns server?
[02:33] <jspiro> Berto: ask the austin linux user group. i bet they meet once a week and can help you in person.
[02:33] <Berto> thanks jspiro i'm going to fix this tonight though
[02:33] <duffyd> hello, I'm having trouble getting my fonts to appear nicely when printing to pdf from konqueror. Anyone know how to configure the fonts when printing in konq? (I'm running kde 3.5.3. It's mepis)
[02:34] <jspiro> Berto: good luck.
[02:34] <jspiro> and youre welcome.
[02:34] <eleftherios> is ubuntu better at detecting and supporting wireless cards than debian is? I have been using debian for two years now and I can't get wireless working for two days now
[02:34] <jspiro> Berto: or use lilo :)
[02:34] <jspiro> eleftherios: try the ubuntu livecd and see :)
[02:34] <Berto> jspiro: dude i'd love to get lilo on there right now
[02:34] <krazykit> eleftherios: kinda.  ubuntu patches their kernel with lots of experimental drivers.
[02:34] <eleftherios> and how easy is it to configure them
[02:35] <iamtheric> eleftherios, the ubuntu kernel is newer i believe
[02:35] <jspiro> Berto: sudo apt-get install lilo
[02:35] <eleftherios> now I have the drivers running and working (I hope) but configuring the wireless has been a b*tch
[02:35] <jspiro> Berto: if that works then proceed as usual with lilo.
[02:35] <eleftherios> I will download the live CD
[02:35] <eleftherios> it is a shame not to be able to have wireless configuration in seconds
[02:35] <swedegrrl> Minnesota
[02:36] <SuperMiguel> how do i use an mail server?
[02:36] <Jbirk> Is there any way I can cache some of the files?
[02:36] <Jbirk> I want to cache an apt-get
[02:36] <Berto> jspiro: are you good with lilo?
[02:36] <Jbirk> basically, is there anyway to get the .deb?
[02:37] <nba> gud morning room
[02:37] <eleftherios> would somebody please be kind enough to give me a link to the latest live cd? Thank you
[02:37] <jrib> eleftherios: ubuntu.com, click on download
[02:37] <AWOSDev> I *really* *really* need help with MIDI.
[02:37] <krazykit> Jbirk: look in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:37] <DTXBrian> Need a touch of help configuring Java on my new Ubuntu AMD 64 installation.
[02:37] <eleftherios> jrib, I am there
[02:37] <AWOSDev> This problem has been making me very upset for a week.
[02:37] <AWOSDev> I'm about at my boiling point.
[02:37] <jrib> eleftherios: that's the link, the desktop cd is both the live cd and the install cd
[02:38] <darnell_> where are the files for the programs for the application menu..
[02:38] <nba> i like to watch dvd movie, can i do it here in ubuntu pc?
[02:38] <eleftherios> jrib, I see, thank you :)
[02:38] <krazykit> AWOSDev: can't help the problem, but maybe check out timiddity
[02:38] <darnell_> limewire is still there
[02:38] <nba> how to do about it
[02:38] <jrib> ubotu: tell nba about dvd
[02:38] <nba> thank you in advance
[02:38] <AWOSDev> I Have A Freaking Hardware Synth, so timidity will not help me.
[02:38] <krazykit> !dvd
[02:38] <DTXBrian> I really only have two issues with Ubuntu.
[02:38] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:38] <DTXBrian> 1 is java.
[02:38] <darnell_> where are the files for the programs for the application menu..
[02:38] <DTXBrian> The other is sound... none.
[02:38] <Jbirk> okay
[02:38] <Jbirk> I found it
[02:38] <kismet_> what's the command/method to remove a startup script from the recovery console?
[02:39] <Jbirk> ndiswrapper-utils_1.8...
[02:39] <punter> hi
[02:39] <gilbert_> hello im trying to install beryl and folowing this guide http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[02:39] <steven__> k i gave the rights
[02:40] <gilbert_> but there is a problem with that guide
[02:40] <Jbirk> sudo apt-get install beryl
[02:40] <yokobr> anyone knows a boot floppy image to boot here? my cd rom doesnt make boot, just on floppy
[02:40] <Jbirk> That is all you have to do to install beryl
[02:40] <SuperMiguel> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[02:40] <punter> I made a mistake - added a "backtrack" repository, now my packages are so new that dependencies have broken - how do I revert back to the old (normal) versions of my installed software?
[02:40] <Jbirk> You must alreeady have accleration turned on in xorg.conf
[02:40] <gilbert_> i cannot import the key
[02:40] <eleftherios> if wireless works out of the box on the live CD I will install it and never use etch again
[02:40] <Jbirk> and you should have the xserver-xgl installed
[02:41] <Jbirk> and verified with ps -e | grep Xgl
[02:41] <SuperMiguel> how do i use my mail server i just installed postfix
[02:41] <gilbert_> is there any way to get this key
[02:41] <DTXBrian> Eleftherios... it's not hard to config the wireless.
[02:41] <DTXBrian> You just have to change the default internet connection to be wlan0
[02:41] <yokobr> if i use beryl. can i use xgl and cedega?
[02:41] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, mine is eth2
[02:41] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, I have not been able to get it working for two days now
[02:41] <DTXBrian> For wireless?
[02:41] <AWOSDev> I *NEED* to use my MPU-401 port to play a MIDI file.
[02:41] <SuperMiguel> how do i use my mail server i just installed postfix
[02:41] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, I want to pull my hair out
[02:42] <krazykit> yokobr: beryl needs aiglx OR xgl.  if you have an ati card, you can't play 3d games with xgl.
[02:42] <iamtheric> steven__, wow that took a while just for rights
[02:42] <kismet_> is there a screen pause for the ls command?
[02:42] <hobbesmaster> g++ seems to have disappeared on my system, and apt-get install build-essential complains of the missing dependencies g++ and libc6
[02:42] <krazykit> kismet_: ls|less
[02:42] <DTXBrian> Eleftherios, my eth0 is an ethernet card, not a wireless card.
[02:42] <DTXBrian> Wireless on my laptop is wlan0.
[02:42] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, mine too
[02:42] <iamtheric> steven__, chmod 777 *.jar
[02:42] <steven__> sorry only had my first lessons
[02:42] <kismet_> krazykit: that removes the color info
[02:42] <steven__> i'm new with linux
[02:42] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, my wireless card is eth2 for some reason
[02:42] <DTXBrian> eleftherios, have you tried wlan0?
[02:43] <krazykit> kismet_: then afaik, no.
[02:43] <steven__> i got bin files
[02:43] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, ifconfig does not see a wlan0
[02:43] <DTXBrian> What's your eth1?
[02:43] <yokobr> i have nvidia, and i want to use xgl with beryl and cedega
[02:44] <catalytic> Im having trouble getting a dlink dwl-g630 wireless pcmcia card to work, and stay working
[02:44] <krazykit> yokobr: actually, aiglx would be better than xgl.
[02:44] <iamtheric> steven__, now execute
[02:44] <catalytic> i managed to get it working last night, ran fine for over 2hours
[02:44] <steven__> how?
[02:44] <catalytic> restarted computer, and now I can even load the network manager to change the wireless card settings
[02:45] <AWOSDev> Does *anybody* know about MIDI?
[02:45] <AWOSDev> Should I go to another channel?
[02:45] <krazykit> AWOSDev: maybe you should just ask the question.
[02:45] <AWOSDev> I already did.
[02:45] <AWOSDev> Up there ^^^
[02:45] <catalytic> also, it doesnt seem to be saving some of my settings when i restart, and some of the menu positions on panels sometimes change or dissappear
[02:45] <krazykit> AWOSDev: what about midi then?
[02:46] <theturtlemoves> hey, I'm looking at getting a laptop with an ATI mobility x1600 card.
[02:46] <AWOSDev>  /dev/sequencer always says 'busy' but fuser reports nothing.  I believe that my MIDI is not properly configured.  How in the world do I configure the bloddy thing?
[02:46] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: no.  get nvidia.  ati-drivers are trash.
[02:46] <AWOSDev> theturtlemoves, no.
[02:46] <theturtlemoves> that bad, huh
[02:46] <iamtheric> steven__, ./file.jar
[02:47] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: yes, that bad.  worse than that bad.
[02:47] <krazykit> AWOSDev: i'm not familiar with hardware midi.  i've always installed timidity and used the software interface
[02:47] <sgorilla78> hello
[02:47] <bulmer> iamtheric  that advise will not work
[02:47] <steven__> jar?
[02:47] <sheriff> hello
[02:47] <theturtlemoves> krazykit: what's the problem. Is it just buggy or is there something specific that doesn't work
[02:47] <sgorilla78> im trying to get ndiswrapper working for ubuntu
[02:47] <DTXBrian> I'm beginning to think perhaps I made a mistake by installing ubuntu.
[02:47] <AWOSDev> I need to use the external MIDI port as well.  /dev/sequencer2.
[02:47] <hangfire> what, the x1600 is bad?
[02:47] <sgorilla78> does it not come with it by default with the server cd?
[02:47] <sgorilla78> all i can find is module packages
[02:48] <sgorilla78> im not sure how to install this driver for ndiswrapper
[02:48] <bulmer> steven_ what do you want to do with that jar file?
[02:48] <sgorilla78> i have the kernel module but i dont know what to do
[02:48] <theturtlemoves> hangfire: do you use it under linux?
[02:48] <hangfire> no
[02:48] <hangfire> ok, I see what your getting at
[02:48] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: ati drivers are buggy.  suspend has major issues with ati-drivers (doesn't work), poor acceleration, and it will only accelerate the first screen in x, which is bad for xgl/beryl users.
[02:48] <sheriff> im trying to install beryl with this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl but when im trying to get pgp keys it gives an error
[02:48] <sheriff> so anyone can help me?
[02:49] <theturtlemoves> krazykit: thanks, good to know
[02:49] <krazykit> sheriff: ask #ubuntu-xgl and be patient
[02:49] <Jbirk> thyanks
[02:49] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: i'd recommend intel over ati graphics, heh
[02:49] <Jbirk> jspiro, thanks
[02:49] <sheriff> krazykit:ok thanks
[02:49] <steven__> i only have .bin
[02:49] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, what about it?
[02:49] <hobbesmaster> apt seems to be completely broken, i try apt-get install build-essential, it complains that the dependency g++  4.0 cannot be installed, I download the package g++-4.0 from packages.ubuntu.com/dapper and package installer complains that it cannot install libstdc++6-4.0-dev, libstdc++ packages complains that it cannot install g++-4.0
[02:49] <theturtlemoves> krazykit: i want a reasonably high-performance card, something better than my FX5600 desktop card
[02:50] <Jbirk> I cannot believe I got my wireless card going
[02:50] <Jbirk> it is awsome
[02:50] <hobbesmaster> never seen apt blow up with circular depencies like that before
[02:50] <sgorilla78> is dapper unstable or stable?
[02:50] <AWOSDev> iamtheric, well it doesn't work.  at all.  and it's making me VERRRRRY upset.
[02:50] <AWOSDev> I have an ES1938 Solo-1 integrated PCI card.
[02:50] <AWOSDev> It worked in Windows 95/98/2000/XP and Red Hat 9 Kernel 2.2.
[02:50] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: in a laptop, anything nvidia 6200 and above, iirc
[02:50] <hobbesmaster> it would appear that g++ is dependent on g++...
[02:50] <Byan> anyone have any idea how to set up a webcam?
[02:51] <Byan> on a server
[02:51] <kismet_> how do you see the raw output during bootup rather than the prettified ubuntu screen?
[02:51] <Byan> kismet_: uninstall gnome =P
[02:51] <Jbirk> Ubuntu is awsome
[02:51] <antigroove> how do you access network shares via the console?
[02:51] <Jbirk> It is the only  linux distro that works
[02:51] <krazykit> kismet_: remove usplash, or i think there's a menu.lst item that you can disable
[02:51] <Byan> antigroove: samba shares?
[02:52] <antigroove> yes, byan
[02:52] <steven__> i dont have jar file i got .bin
[02:52] <kismet_> no, i mean, when it's loading the kernel and components before the spash screen
[02:52] <kismet_> or, rather, before the login screen
[02:52] <krazykit> kismet_: something like nosplash or something
[02:52] <sureshot> hey is anyone familier with xtrs trs80 emulator trying to compile it and cant just wondering if i can ask here
[02:53] <Jbirk> antigroove: how do you access network shares via the console
[02:53] <kylrags> ] for a low-end PC shooould i start with Ubuntu or XUbuntu?
[02:53] <Jbirk> Answer, mount -t smbfs
[02:53] <Jbirk> to mount a samba share
[02:53] <Byan> antigroove: apt-get install smbclient
[02:53] <kismet_> kylrags: how low-end?
[02:53] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, midi sucks
[02:53] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, i still use redhat9
[02:53] <krazykit> kylrags: xubuntu is lighter.  i'd recommend it anyway for any computer
[02:53] <kylrags> haha Pentium 2. it WAS running XP though
[02:53] <AWOSDev> iamtheric, are you telling me to use Red Hat 9 or not use MIDI?
[02:53] <Eddieduce> I am trying to install Windows Firefox for Wine.  From what I read in the Wine web page all it requires is running the windows executable but it did not work, giving me a "Couldn't display '/home/tech/Desktop/Firefox Setup 1.5.0.7.exe'" Can anyone help or point to the right direction?
[02:54] <AWOSDev> kylrags, Exact specs would help.
[02:54] <kismet_> kylrags: yeah, i'd go with Xubuntu. It's just not quite as pretty
[02:54] <kylrags> oh
[02:54] <AWOSDev> kylrags, Kubuntu runs decently on my Celeron/500 with 256MB
[02:54] <Byan> kylrags: fluxbox might be even better
[02:54] <kylrags> compaq presario
[02:54] <AWOSDev> Presario...?
[02:54] <kylrags> 10  gig harddrive
[02:54] <AWOSDev> exact model #
[02:54] <kylrags> presario yes
[02:55] <kylrags> 5170
[02:55] <AWOSDev> 4850?  5240?
[02:55] <AWOSDev> ahhh
[02:55] <steven__> i got it
[02:55] <AWOSDev> kylrags, that would be, what, 400MHz?
[02:55] <steven__> thx
[02:55] <AWOSDev> how much memory?
[02:55] <kylrags> 10 gigs if mem
[02:55] <antigroove> cool, thanks byan and jbirk
[02:55] <AWOSDev> !?
[02:55] <krazykit> kylrags: memory, not hard drive
[02:55] <AWOSDev> RAM not Hard Disk...
[02:55] <theturtlemoves> so what's the Intel gma950 like in 3D acceleration?
[02:55] <kylrags> 512 ram i belive
[02:55] <kismet_> oh, for 10 Gigs of RAM...
[02:55] <kismet_> lol
[02:56] <kismet_> Just load the whole filesystem into RAM
[02:56] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: it's pretty good.  it won't run your brand new games, but for general puttering around it's good.  it's good enough for compiz/beryl
[02:56] <Byan> theturtlemoves: no idea on linux, but in directX, it's like a GF4 or 5 with update date API
[02:56] <kylrags> iimm just trying to get anything better than   Damn Small Linux really
[02:57] <AWOSDev> kylrags regular Ubuntu or Kubuntu would be finnnnneeee on the computer
[02:57] <sgorilla78> what apt sources should i use for ubuntu?
[02:57] <AWOSDev> heck it runs decent on 256MB
[02:57] <AWOSDev> 512 == Heaven :)
[02:57] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, both i have a presario 700
[02:57] <Byan> sgorilla78: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[02:57] <kylrags> i have a ubuntu boot disk and im getting a xubuntu disk tomarrow from a friend
[02:58] <sgorilla78> Byan: i will check it out
[02:58] <kylrags> but the ununtu one just sits there
[02:58] <Byan> ack, I forgot why I was here... so no one knows how to set up a webcam?
[02:58] <DTXBrian> I have an AMD Turion 64 X2 mobile processor on my laptop with a gig of ram.
[02:59] <krazykit> Byan: have you searched the wiki and forums?
[02:59] <jmark> I have a bt878 card, running ubuntu 6.06 from live cd...the card works great, I boot up from my hard drive (also ubuntu 6.06) and I get "no signal" blue screens when trying to view tv, what am I doing wrong? I have loaded all modules (my card is found as "10" and tuner as "2") still doesn't work.... ideas please?
[02:59] <DTXBrian> I still cannot manage to get Java to run on my laptop.
[02:59] <DTXBrian> I went into the repository list to permit multiverse...
[02:59] <DTXBrian> Still cannot figure what to do.
[02:59] <jmark> have a bt878 card, running ubuntu 6.06 from live cd...the card works great, I boot up from my hard drive (also ubuntu 6.06) and I get "no signal" blue screens when trying to view tv, what am I doing wrong? I have loaded all modules (my card is found as "10" and tuner as "2") still doesn't work.... ideas please?
[03:00] <DTXBrian> I don't know where the add/remove button is supposed to be.  It's not under "applications"
[03:00] <AWOSDev> iamtheric, really?
[03:00] <AWOSDev> Is it the CDTV model?
[03:00] <krazykit> jmark: no need to spam the quesetion.  i think you need a piece of software that i don't remember, but remember seeing on the mythtv guide
[03:00] <Eddieduce> Any one setup Firefox for Windows through Wine for Ubuntu?
[03:00] <jmark> did that by accident, sorry
[03:00] <jmark> didnt mean to ask twice
[03:00] <Vuen> Eddieduce: why on earth would you want to do that?
[03:00] <AWOSDev> Eddieduce, yes and it works fine.
[03:01] <SuperMiguel> how do i use my mail server i just installed postfix
[03:01] <kylrags> all i am seeing right now is a curser oon top of soome glossy graphics
[03:01] <kylrags> on my ubuntu PC
[03:01] <jmark> krazykit: mythtv guide? is there a ubuntu mythtv guide?
[03:01] <krazykit> yeah
[03:01] <krazykit> on the wiki, jmark
[03:01] <jmark> k, i'll check it out
[03:01] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel,  sudo apt-get install postfix  maybe?
[03:01] <jmark> thanks
[03:02] <Byan> krazykit: couldn't find anything about ubuntu and webcams.. at least, where exactly I start..
[03:02] <Eddieduce> Vuen: Shockwave is still required for some webpages and Linux's Ubuntu does no support it Yet.
[03:03] <Vuen> Eddieduce: ah, i see
[03:03] <krazykit> Byan: probably start with v4l, the video4linux stuff.  i'm really not familiar with webcams though
[03:04] <Byan> krazykit: hmmm
[03:04] <Eddieduce> AWOSDev:  I thought it only required running the Windows executable, but it gave me the message "Couldn't display "/home/tech/Desktop/Firefox Setup 1.5.0.7.exe""
[03:04] <Eddieduce> I must depart I hope you can colaborate tomorrow. Bye.
[03:04] <AWOSDev> Eddieduce, just cd to Desktop and type                 wine Firefox\ Setup\ 1.5.0.7.exe
[03:05] <AWOSDev> Oh bye Eddieduce!
[03:05] <AWOSDev> Sure we may.
[03:06] <theturtlemoves> ok, thanks for the advice all :) bye
[03:08] <MrWok> whats a good tracker to get the 6.06 server release off of as a torrent?
[03:09] <MrWok> anyone?
[03:09] <Rondom> MrWok: don't think the tracker plays such a large role
[03:09] <MrWok> Okay.
[03:09] <krazykit> MrWok: anything linked from the main page.
[03:09] <MrWok> There's no links to any actual torrent sites
[03:09] <Rondom> I mean if there are enough people seeding it it's ok
[03:10] <hikenboot> hello all--I am having difficulty installing the nvida video driver that nvidia has ..I keep getting either  a message that says the kernel-module version is 1.0-7174 but this x module has the version 1.0-8774 or otherwise i can manage to configure it to work by starting x from root using startx but it wont start from boot..any ideas?
[03:10] <Rondom> MrWok: simply dowload the torrent file
[03:10] <nba> guys, sos pls, i can't activate the DVD decrpytion
[03:10] <SuperMiguel> how do i use my mail server i just installed postfix
[03:10] <riPPerMD> lol I am having same problem with nvidia driver
[03:10] <nba> i have type "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install -css.sh
[03:10] <nba> "
[03:11] <nba> but the out put was " /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install: command not found
[03:11] <nba> "
[03:11] <cpk2> are you guys trying to get the nvidia driver via apt-get?
[03:11] <hikenboot> got a solution riPPerMD
[03:11] <hikenboot> no trying to install nvidias version because it uses hardware excelleration
[03:11] <riPPerMD> no I installed from the package from nvidia site
[03:12] <riPPerMD> nope no solution yet
[03:12] <Flannel> !nvidia
[03:12] <riPPerMD> looked on the forums but couldnt find a fix
[03:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:12] <Flannel> what's wrong with that?
[03:12] <hikenboot> I am trying to get the 3ddesktop working and it requires excelleration
[03:12] <Abst> anyone know the wwebsite for libmono1.0-cil
[03:12] <Jobberwacky> excelleration?
[03:13] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, no
[03:13] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, i have redhat9 on all my machines including that one
[03:13] <Flannel> hikenboot: use that link ubotu just gave
[03:13] <grndslm> anybody know if prelinking is worth it??
[03:13] <cpk2> riPPerMD; hikenboot get the nvidia drivers via apt-getr
[03:13] <cpk2> apt-get even
[03:14] <scott_> OK (hi all) I'm trying to reinstall Dapper cleanly from live/install cd but it hangs at 'starting up the partitioner 14%' ne ideas???
[03:14] <hikenboot> but they dont support hardware excelleration right?
[03:14] <Zambezi> Anybody used a 16:9 or 16:10 monitor i Ubuntu? How is that?
[03:14] <Jobberwacky> scott_, maybe low RAM?
[03:14] <domoking> I just downloaded my ati drivers and the extension is .run How would I run this?
[03:14] <scott_> have 1 GB
[03:14] <Flannel> hikenboot: yes they do
[03:14] <AWOSDev> iamtheric, oh.
[03:15] <Flannel> scott_: burn at 4x
[03:15] <AWOSDev> Presario 700 from what year?  they made a few...
[03:15] <Jobberwacky> I've seen that problem with the livecd, you're better off with the alt cd
[03:15] <cpk2> hikenboot: yes they do, the nvidia drivers are exactly the same as what you get from the website
[03:15] <scott_> Did the CD check... came back OK
[03:15] <iamtheric> Eddieduce, just install the linux version
[03:15] <riPPerMD> ok i went through all that but now I get an error that x wont load because of  API mismatch
[03:16] <Flannel> riPPerMD: Just use the nvidia drivers from apt, you sidestep all of the hassle
[03:16] <scott_> Where do I get the alt CD
[03:16] <Jobberwacky> Zambezi, it's fine, I have a 5:3 monitor
[03:16] <Flannel> scott_: same place, ubuntu.com/download
[03:16] <Flannel> scott_: and still, burn at 4x
[03:16] <grndslm> prelinking anybody??  useful or not?
[03:16] <autoklauen> i tried installing ubuntu on a machine. i got message logical block *digits*. i tried google but ddint find any sulution. ubuntu works fine on my other installs
[03:16] <scott_> OK I'll give it a try..
[03:16] <Zambezi> Jobberwacky, And that's also okay?
[03:17] <Jobberwacky> Zambezi, yeah, no problem
[03:17] <riPPerMD> ok I'll give that, thanks
[03:17] <nba> sos pls, cannot activate DVD decryption, what would i do
[03:17] <scott_> just curious is it console (text) or automated (GUI)?
[03:17] <Zambezi> Jobberwacky, I just have 15". I would like to have a new, but the one I want is so expensive.
[03:17] <domoking> I just downloaded my ati drivers and the extension is .run How would I run this?
[03:17] <whyso> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed
[03:17] <whyso> i cant start any package managers
[03:17] <whyso> who to fix?
[03:17] <Flannel> scott_: it's automated, it's console based, but it's a curses GUI thing
[03:17] <whyso> how*
[03:18] <Jobberwacky> Zambezi, if it's not detected and set up automatically, it can be done manually and it's fine
[03:18] <scott_> thanx alot I'll look it up; and burn at 4x
[03:18] <AWOSDev> nba, do you have libdvdcss2?
[03:18] <nba> AWOSDEV: where can i find that?
[03:19] <whyso> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed i cant open any package managers, how do i fix this? help appreciated
[03:19] <Zambezi> Jobberwacky, That's good to know. Cause I'm thinking about a widescreen my low accesstime, DVI and maybe some input like s-video.
[03:19] <AmIyourJuliet> hello everyone
[03:19] <nba> AWOSDEV: sorry im a newbie here
[03:19] <Flannel> !libdvdcss
[03:19] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:19] <Adam_G> Hi all. If I have something using up 100% "id" CPU in top, how do I find out what's the runaway process?
[03:19] <Adam_G> whoops
[03:19] <Adam_G> that would be idle...
[03:20] <AmIyourJuliet> I'm having trouble with my ubuntu installation.  I installed off the 6.06 dvd and it completed successfully, but GRUB doesn't boot.  It just loads windows XP without showing GRUB
[03:20] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[03:20] <whyso> ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed i cant open any package managers, how do i fix this? help appreciated
[03:20] <SonicvanaJr> Hey, for some reason none of my network interfaces are being brought up automatically, any ideas ?
[03:20] <gameman73> is it possible to move a window across an x server?
[03:20] <Flannel> Adam_G: what you have to do is run a bunch of things, and they'll all gang up and beat up the run away "idle" process
[03:20] <AWOSDev> whyso -- Have you tried apt-get?  aptitude?  Synaptic?  adept?
[03:20] <AWOSDev> Flannel LOL
[03:21] <autoklauen> ok lol , in another way , how do i defeat the logical blocks i get toward trying to run the install cs
[03:21] <autoklauen> cd*
[03:21] <Adam_G> Flannel, do you have to rub it in? :P
[03:21] <whyso> yeah, they boot with sudo and command line, but most package adds dont work
[03:21] <AmIyourJuliet> anyone have a clue why GRUB doesn't boot after a fresh install for me?
[03:22] <domoking> I just downloaded my ati drivers and the extension is .run Can someone show me how to run this please?
[03:22] <AmIyourJuliet> i had the installer autopartition, and it installed within the 1024 cylinder boundary
[03:22] <puff> I'm having problems getting 802.11 to work with wpa passsphrase.
[03:22] <wastrel> my foot hurts
[03:22] <AWOSDev> AmIyourJuliet -- that only applies to NT4.
[03:22] <Trae> :(
[03:22] <Trae> I feel trapped...
[03:23] <AWOSDev> wastrel, go to a doctor then. :)
[03:23] <Flannel> whyso: you have python-subversion installed?
[03:23] <AWOSDev> Trae, then use /quit :)
[03:23] <Trae> My Ubuntu is broken, yet all the other distro's are crap compared to Ubuntu.
[03:23] <Trae> *sigh*
[03:23] <whyso> i think so, whats apt to get those
[03:23] <Flannel> whyso: you wan't to remove them, it's a buggy package
[03:23] <AmIyourJuliet> AWOSDev: what else could it be?  I've installed ubuntu before off CD's without an issue.  This time I used the DVD and it won't load GRUB.  I tried flatten/reinstall - same thing!
[03:23] <Flannel> whyso: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/55641
[03:23] <nba> AWOSDev: how to get the libdvdcss2?
[03:23] <whyso> k
[03:23] <whyso> thanks
[03:23] <Trae> https://launchpad.net/bugs/22336
[03:23] <Flannel> !tell nba about libdvdcss
[03:23] <AWOSDev> nba, did you look at the bot?
[03:23] <Trae> this bug is very very painful
[03:23] <gameman73> is it possible to move a window across an x server?
[03:24] <Flannel> gameman73: you mean like from one X server to another?
[03:24] <nba> AWOSDev: what's a bot
[03:24] <AWOSDev> AmIyourJuliet, IDK.
[03:24] <AWOSDev> !bot
[03:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:24] <scott_> Is there any way to download dapper alt iso from some where faster than 10kb/s?
[03:24] <mikm[laptop] > bittorrent?
[03:24] <gameman73> Flannel: yeah, like i can login remotely via xdmcp, and move windows from my xdmcp login to my local login
[03:24] <AWOSDev> nba, ^^that's a bot, his name is Ubotu.
[03:24] <domoking> I just downloaded my ati drivers and the extension is .run Can someone show me how to run this please?
[03:25] <nba> AWOSDev: uh yeah i see that, but i don't know how to get over it
[03:25] <Flannel> gameman73: I don't believe so.  I'm not all knowing though ;)
[03:25] <jmark> anyone know how I might see what modules were loaded by a livecd and with what parameters?
[03:26] <AWOSDev> nba, type this into your IRC.          !libdvdcss
[03:26] <AWOSDev> then the bot will tell you how to get it :)
[03:26] <nba> !libdvdcss
[03:26] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:26] <Flannel> domoking: what's wrong with the packaged versions?
[03:27] <AWOSDev> Why was my bot edit denied?
[03:27] <scott_> domoking, should have instructions on ati.com or google it(I think its something like /path sh./nameofinstaller.run)
[03:27] <jrib> AWOSDev: it gets sent to #ubuntu-ops and then has to be approved by someone there
[03:27] <domoking> flannel: I am just trying to reinstall my video drivers thats all. I am getting lagginess during splash screens in ubuntu
[03:28] <AWOSDev> Oh okay thanks jrib.
[03:28] <domoking> flannel: i am pretty sure my system can handle them not too sure what is the problem
[03:28] <puff> I'm trying to set up wpa following the steps here: http://fredericiana.com/2006/06/11/ubuntu-dapper-drake-and-wpa-encrypted-wireless/
[03:28] <autoklauen> mmm, not to be a pestilence . i have installed ubuntu on my 2 good coms , and now only have left an elder use.. still is win machine, on which i also like to install ubunto on., but when i insert and try to boot the install / desktop cd it bugs me with logical block *and digets* - if i somehow can defeat this block and install ub id be glad.
[03:28] <whyso> how do i remove the buggy subversion package without apt?
[03:28] <AmIyourJuliet> Is there any way to check if GRUB was installed?  I installed Ubuntu succesfully, but it just boots straight to XP
[03:28] <puff> But I think it's not working.
[03:29] <catalytic> can someone help me install firmware for my wireless?
[03:29] <Flannel> domoking: right, but what's wrong with the aTI drivers from the repositories?
[03:29] <catalytic> i have downloaded the correct drivers and firmware, but not sure what to do next
[03:30] <domoking> flannel: nothing I have them installed right now. I guess I'm just trying trial and error for my problem.
[03:30] <GhostFreeman> will the system still operate even if the memory and swap partition fill up?
[03:30] <domoking> flannel: do you have experience with the ati drivers?
[03:30] <AWOSDev> catalytic, extract the file you downloaded to /lib/firmware
[03:30] <GhostFreeman> I know that sounds like the dumbest question ever
[03:30] <gameman73> is it possible to move a window across an x server?
[03:30] <Flannel> domoking: no.  But, the ATI drivers you download from their site are the same ones in the repositories
[03:31] <AWOSDev> GhostFreeman, slowly but it should.
[03:31] <domoking> flannel: ok. What do you think I should do to fix my problem? I'm outta ideas. I appreicate your help by the way thanks
[03:31] <AWOSDev> GhostFreeman, things wouldn't open with error ENOMEM.
[03:31] <gameman73> Flannel: i thought the ones on the site were slightly newer
[03:31] <catalytic> ok
[03:31] <GhostFreeman> I figured as much
[03:31] <AWOSDev> GhostFreeman, Thankfully, I haven't had that problem yet
[03:31] <AWOSDev> :)
[03:31] <GhostFreeman> well I am about to
[03:32] <GhostFreeman> xgl is mostly to blame
[03:32] <catalytic> then what do i do once i have done that/
[03:32] <catalytic> do i need drivers and the firmware?
[03:32] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[03:33] <puff> Hm, okay, so the wpa stuff did work, but I have three gnome-network-manager icons.
[03:33] <puff> in my system tray.
[03:33] <AWOSDev> catalytic, well, you do the drivers now, configure them or install them or whatever.
[03:33] <catalytic> http://forums.ralinktech.com.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2335
[03:33] <catalytic> i have a dlink dwl-g630
[03:33] <GmDude66> sudo: setuid must be /root
[03:33] <GmDude66>  wdf does that mean..
[03:34] <LjL> GhostFreeman, AWOSDev: err, actually, afaik, when you're in an out-of-memory situation in Linux, processes just start getting killed randomly (besides the fact that most programs are just not prepared to deal with a denied malloc...)
[03:34] <catalytic> and this one is supposed to be using the r261 chipset
[03:34] <gameman73> is it possible to move a window across an x server?
[03:34] <catalytic> i have downloaded the sorry the RT61
[03:34] <aedinius> gameman73: There is xmove, but it doesn't work so well. So in short, no.
[03:34] <catalytic> drivers and firmware
[03:34] <catalytic> and now im not sure how to install these onto my system
 sudo: setuid must be /root
[03:34] <GmDude66> ...
[03:34] <AWOSDev> LjL, really?  /me didn't know that.
[03:35] <LjL> AWOSDev: http://lwn.net/Articles/49531/ looks interesting for instance
[03:35] <gameman73> xmove...   ok ill look into it, thanks aedinius
[03:35] <AWOSDev> LjL, bad programming pratice not to prepare for a denied malloc().
[03:35] <LjL> AWOSDev: yeah, doesn't mean it doesn't happen all the time though
[03:35] <domoking> flannel: i found my error
[03:35] <domoking> what is that program to paste your error in irc?
[03:35] <domoking> pastebin!
[03:35] <Flannel> !paste
[03:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:36] <domoking> thanks
[03:36] <AWOSDev> catalytic, all I can say is follow the README.
[03:36] <catalytic> the readme that came with it only had version updates
[03:37] <catalytic> the release notes
[03:38] <ianmacgregor> How do I change my display manager back to gdm?
[03:38] <catalytic> found a readme :P thanks
[03:38] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: sudo update-alternatives gdm
[03:39] <AWOSDev> catalytic good...np :)
[03:39] <autoklauen> i try again and ask tomorrow then :)
[03:39] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: update-alternatives: unknown argument `gdm'
[03:39] <puff> Still trying to get wireless with wpa working.   sigh.
[03:39] <jeffreyb> I have been looking at both Ubuntu & Kubuntu (Edgy)... I think the fonts look better in Ubuntu. Is that possible or are my eyes playing tricks?
[03:40] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: sorry, wrong configuration thing.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:41] <domoking> I am typing in "bash ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" I get no such file. But its right on my desktop.
[03:42] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: That didn't work either. Is there a file I can just manually edit to change from kdm to gdm?
[03:42] <AWOSDev> LjL, that was an interesting read (including comments), especially for an OS dever such as myself :)
[03:42] <Rondom> ianmacgregor: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:42] <catalytic> in the readme it uses a command dos2unix
[03:42] <catalytic> i dont think I have this
[03:42] <johnficca> is there a way to get the gnome desktop icons to line up on the right ?
[03:43] <catalytic> do i need to install this first?
[03:43] <phlux> How well does ubuntu play with laptops? :o
[03:43] <LjL> AWOSDev: see also http://lwn.net/Articles/104179/ as to "why that can happen" (basically, the kernel commits to providing memory it doesn't necessarily have)
[03:43] <ianmacgregor> Rondom: That doesn't work
[03:43] <Rondom> ianmacgregor: why does this not work? any error-msg?
[03:43] <Squeee> Has anyone here used airpwn before?
[03:44] <AWOSDev> LjL, ew...why would it do that?  My OS (at Build 9) doesn't even do that.
[03:44] <domoking> flannel: I am typing in "bash ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" I get no such file. But its right on my desktop.
[03:44] <J03> anyone familiar with recovering a corrupt region with EVMS?  i simulated a crash in vmware while shrinking a raid5 array.  when i rebooted it shows up as an available object (though corrupt) instead of a volume now
[03:44] <ianmacgregor> Rondom: invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[03:45] <J03> it recovered fine by itself when i crashed it during an expand operation
[03:45] <Rondom> ianmacgregor: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:45] <Celeste> hi
[03:45] <LjL> AWOSDev: it does that on purpose. see the article -- when programs fork, *in theory* the new instance has a copy of the memory. in practice, generally, the memory is just shared with the parent. but if the child actually starts writing to its memory, the kernel has to satisfy it (can't just say "no, we're out of memory" -- the malloc's already been done)
[03:46] <Celeste> can I preview the contents of a  *.zip and of a  *.tar.gz  file in the shell without unpacking it?
[03:46] <aedinius> Celeste: YEs.
[03:46] <Celeste> how?
[03:46] <aedinius> Celeste: tar -zvft
[03:46] <LjL> AWOSDev: in a system designed differently (such as, scrap the idea of "forking" processes and have just threads, and possibly other things), this problem would probably not even exist
[03:46] <aedinius> I forget for zip, I belive it's -t as well
[03:46] <domoking> I'm typing "bash ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" I get no such file. But its right on my desktop. can someone help me?
[03:47] <Celeste> thank you aedinius
[03:47] <aedinius> Not a prob.
[03:47] <Rondom> Celeste: : for zip-file do zipinfo zipfile.zip
[03:47] <AWOSDev> LjL, no basically on my OS (as I said it's only at 0.0.9), if a process fork()ed and we didn't have enough memory, the fork() would fail.
[03:47] <Celeste> Rondom: thank you :)
[03:47] <AWOSDev> with ENOMEM.
[03:48] <finsta> Hello people
[03:48] <finsta> I got a question
[03:48] <finsta> It's a weird, weird problem with a T42 Thinkpad
[03:48] <LjL> AWOSDev: well, you take the conservative approach. but in that case, you refuse the malloc() even when the forked process would possibly have done fine without forcing you to do many copies-on-write at all
[03:49] <finsta> I can't resize partitions using PartitionMagic or Disk Director, and it kills the partition
[03:49] <LjL> AWOSDev: just see how some daemons on linux can spawn dozens of forked processes... you'd "run out of memory" (though you wouldn't really) in no time, following your approach
[03:49] <gl0be> how do I reconfigure xserver when installing a new video card?  Onboard intel -> agp nvidia
[03:49] <AWOSDev> LjL, yes but you have a performance gain by doing copy-on-fork.
[03:50] <AWOSDev> LjL, besides that, my OS will 9 outta 10 have different daemons :)
[03:51] <LjL> AWOSDev: and that is the point. if Linux was designed "your" way, the people developing daemons and other software would probably have made different assumptions, resulting in different behavior of their programs
[03:51] <AWOSDev> LjL very true.
[03:51] <LjL> AWOSDev: but as it is, if you just made Linux use a copy-on-fork approach and bail out when the sum of allocated pages is bigger than the memory, i guess just about everything would break
[03:51] <synphreak> Well... i gave in and tried ndiswrapper again, and wireless is working fine now.  Guess I'll wait for edgy to try native drivers.
[03:52] <AWOSDev> LjL heh
[03:52] <AWOSDev> e
[03:54] <ChickenTalons> ok, whats the problem with the screensaver? it really didnt do my LCD monitor any favors
[03:55] <ChickenTalons> it did something very evil and my monitor was unable to keep the picture up
[03:55] <AWOSDev> ChickenTalons what did it do?
[03:56] <Lock-Dog> re
[03:56] <ChickenTalons> AWOSDev, apparently the "power management" in the x86-64 screensaver package did something and made my lcd monitor very angry. For an hour or so it would turn on, and only show the pic for 1-2 secs then go into blank screen
[03:57] <ChickenTalons> i had to uplug the thing for 10-15 minutes before it worked properly again
[03:57] <AWOSDev> ChickenTalons, hmm, interesting.
[03:57] <AWOSDev> Is there a dev in the house?
[03:58] <AWOSDev> !dev
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <Lock-Dog> I mounted NTFS hd...I can see all the folders and files that in English. But the ones that is in russian i can`t. Why so?!
[03:58] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog, if you mounted it with the "mount" command, did you insure the UTF-8 option was enabled?
[03:59] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog are the file names in Russian or just the file contents?
[03:59] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog did you use Nautilus?  Konqueror?  or the CLI?
[03:59] <Lock-Dog> How do i enable UTF-8 option?
[03:59] <Lock-Dog> I`ll show you what i wrote in /etc/fstab
[03:59] <Lock-Dog> min
[04:00] <Wheelybin> Dumb xchat question, but it's not showing a list of users, and /ubotu doesn't work. I want to ask it about samba
[04:00] <Lock-Dog> /dev/hda1 /windows/C ntfs ro,uid=1000,auto 0 0
[04:00] <Wheelybin> and well, i'd like the username list to show up
[04:00] <Lock-Dog> /dev/hda5 /E/Media ntfs ro,uid=1000,auto 0 0
[04:01] <Lock-Dog> Before that i made the dirs
[04:01] <Lock-Dog> that`s it.
[04:01] <Lock-Dog> Can`t see anything in russian in the ntfs drives.
[04:01] <Lock-Dog> How do i enable UTF-8 option?
[04:02] <whyso> hi, if i installed edgy eft now could i upgrade when the new version came out without having to reinstall
[04:02] <Wheelybin> !samba
[04:02] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:03] <AWOSDev> whyso Thank you I've been wanting to know too.  Anybody know?
[04:03] <Byan> wtf.. how do I copy the contents of one file to another?>
[04:04] <Lock-Dog> AWOSDev, do you have an answer for me? ;)
[04:04] <totall_6_7> Byan: ctrl-c and ctrl-v
[04:04] <totall_6_7> Byan: ctrl-a ctrl-c and ctrl-v
[04:04] <whyso> can you upgrade ubuntu versions without having reinstall? anyone know?
[04:05] <asdfasdf> what is the edgy channel?
[04:05] <Lock-Dog> Ne1 can help?
[04:06] <asdfasdf> can anyone tell me what channel edgy is discussed on?
[04:07] <totall_6_7> #ubuntu-1
[04:07] <asdfasdf> thanks
[04:07] <asdfasdf> totall_6_7: there is no one in that channel
[04:08] <fluxinator> how do I make firestarter start as soon as I boot ubuntu?
[04:08] <totall_6_7> sorry mate #ubuntu+1
[04:09] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: hi there!
[04:09] <Wazm> Hello
[04:09] <kanedaddy> yo
[04:09] <nicholaspaul> :D
[04:09] <nalioth> hi nicholaspaul
[04:09] <fluxinator> anyone know?
[04:09] <puff> yay, it worked this time around.
[04:10] <puff> The keyring passphrase popup must have gotten lost beneath a window the first time.
[04:10] <W9ZEB-Lars> !skype
[04:10] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:11] <W9ZEB-Lars> !nonfree
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <fluxinator> nalioth would you know how I make firestarter start up upon booting ubunut
[04:11] <fluxinator> *ubuntu
[04:11] <W9ZEB-Lars> what's the one for non-free formats?
[04:11] <Wazm> dunno
[04:11] <nicholaspaul> I'm having trouble with my hd filling up... it's apparently 87% full. i'm thinking BitTorrent might have had something to do with it, but i made sure i used my other HD for that. how can i clear up files? where to start?
[04:11] <W9ZEB-Lars> !mp3
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <df> Winamp not Running
[04:11] <nicholaspaul> are there some temp file i can get rid of?
[04:12] <nalioth> fluxinator: system > sessions and add it to your startup
[04:12] <fluxinator> I mean while the kernel is booting
[04:12] <fluxinator> not when I log into gnome
[04:12] <puff> Now i just need to get gtkpod working with my ipod and I'll be happy.
[04:13] <fluxinator> puff gtkpod works flawlessly for me
[04:14] <Artemis3> Hey there, whats your favorite app for cd/dvd burning?
[04:14] <ArrenLex> k3b
[04:14] <fluxinator> Artemis3, kb, graveman and gnomebaker
[04:15] <nicholaspaul> K3b or Gnomebaker
[04:15] <fluxinator> k3b sorry
[04:15] <nicholaspaul> or Roxio Toast :D
[04:15] <fluxinator> aack!
[04:15] <ArrenLex> I like buttered toast, myself.
[04:15] <ArrenLex> Roxio tastes like feet.
[04:15] <nicholaspaul> lol
[04:15] <W9ZEB-Lars> what's the default sound manager for DappeR?
[04:15] <W9ZEB-Lars> is it oss or alsa?
[04:15] <ArrenLex> alsa
[04:15] <Artemis3> hmm Gnomebaker is too simple and because of cdrecord doesnt handle multisession dvds
[04:15] <fluxinator> I just wanted to get this damn thing to run as soon as I turn it on
[04:16] <W9ZEB-Lars> ArrenLex: thanks.
[04:16] <fluxinator> Artemis3, then its k3b for you
[04:16] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog still there?
[04:16] <Artemis3> whats this graveman?
[04:16] <nicholaspaul> I need to go thru my system and find the big files i can get rid of... is there a GUI for that?
[04:16] <Artemis3> yes most likely k3b just wanted to poll ;)
[04:16] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog, after the word 'defaults' add a ',utf8'
[04:16] <j-swim> hey folks is there a good place for edgy repos to add to a source.lst?
[04:16] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog now it should say 'defaults,utf8'
[04:16] <Stargazers> Hi. I installed just Edgy Eft, but when I now start programs, there is now borders in windows. Any ideas?
[04:17] <fluxinator> you might try brasero Artemis3
[04:17] <fluxinator> and http://graveman.tuxfamily.org/
[04:17] <Artemis3> brasero? lets see
[04:17] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, Uh, are they maximized?
[04:17] <Stargazers> AWOSDev: Nope. There is no borders at all, I mean, window manager seems to be buggy?
[04:17] <Stargazers> I mean, there is no titlebars etc.
[04:18] <BDerwent> can anyone tell me how to make a startup script that loads the dvorak keymap?
[04:18] <BDerwent> google has failed me
[04:18] <edju> Installed CUPS, yet I don't have /etc/cups/client.conf.  I need it to set up the client.  Any  clue for the clueless appreciated.
[04:18] <tekian> Is there a way to configure twinview with both an external monitor and tv-out? (Not active at the same time, but just having them in the same config file without having to switch)
[04:18] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, ohhh, you said there is "now borders"...I thought you meant that there were borders that weren't there before.  okay must think...
[04:19] <fluxinator> Artemis3, http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1158
[04:19] <Stargazers> Yep.
[04:19] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, is the menubar there?
[04:19] <Stargazers> I can't move windowses etc of course, also I have no "maximize", "minimize" and "Close" buttons.
[04:19] <Stargazers> Menubars, yes. at least on this window :P
[04:19] <fluxinator> how do I get firestarter to automatically start up (assuming as a daemon)
[04:19] <cycom> this is the most irritating problem.  I have a logitech Cordless Desktop Optical keyboard, and I can't get the keymap to change/work.  It seems stuck on some screwy config where volume up works, but volume down will rightclick/something else and act goofy
[04:20] <cycom> How can I reset my keyboard stuff to when I first installed ubuntu?
[04:20] <Artemis3> both brasero and graveman look interesting
[04:20] <AWOSDev> Stargazers okay right-click on it in the taskbar/kicker/task list/whatever you want to call it.
[04:20] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, then press "Maximize"
[04:20] <Stargazers> I use Gnome.
[04:20] <wastrel> Stargazers:  maybe try changing your theme
[04:20] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, I know, whatever you people call it.
[04:21] <jrib> fluxinator: there is no need, firestart is just a frontend to create rules for iptables
[04:21] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, also since this is an Edgy Eft problem, try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:21] <BelialMkII> cycom,: Is that the keyboard that projects an image ontop your desk? I seen that online and was wondering how well it worked. I kinda forseen callouses building on my fingers quick. Cant answer your question im afraid, but curious none the less
[04:21] <Stargazers> wastrel: Hard to change, 'cause I can't use Gnome's menu because this terminal menu is on it's place and I have to close this before I can try antrhing.
[04:21] <Stargazers> AWOSDev: Oh, thx. Have to join on that channel.
[04:21] <kyja> I realy need to figure out how to get bluetooth working so I can xfer with sony ericsson z520
[04:21] <kyja> !bluetooth
[04:21] <fluxinator> jrib and my configurations to iptables disappear when I do not have firestarter running
[04:21] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:21] <cycom> BelialMkII: nah dude.  Just a wirelss keyboard and mouse
[04:21] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, or wait until the 26th for the release version :)
[04:21] <wastrel> Stargazers:  alt-f2  and run  gnome-theme-manager
[04:21] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, np
[04:21] <cycom> which I am about to fling out a window.
[04:22] <Stargazers> wastrel: Shortcut Alt + F2 does not work ^^.
[04:22] <BelialMkII> Least it wont take your machine with it :-/
[04:22] <jrib> fluxinator: no, they shouldn't
[04:22] <cycom> BelialMkII: HAHAHA! Ok, that makes me feel better.
[04:22] <fluxinator> jrib , they do
[04:22] <ArrenLex> cycom: is there anything in your ~/.xmodmaprc?
[04:22] <AWOSDev> BelialMkII hehe
[04:22] <Flannel> Stargazers: then programs > accessories > terminal and type that in
[04:23] <Stargazers> Oh, there is packages what wasn't installed in some reason, mmh... Have to try to install them now.
[04:23] <cycom> ArrenLex: that doesn't exist.
[04:23] <joaquinz> hi does anybody know whats the ubuntu's x config tool name?
[04:23] <Stargazers> Well, I try to change a theme but only icons etc chnages.
[04:23] <cycom> Though that makes me want to try logging in as a diff user!
[04:23] <cycom> hold on
[04:23] <Stargazers> No borders on windowses still.
[04:23] <jrib> fluxinator: hmm, how did you check?
[04:24] <Stargazers> What is the default "window manager" in gnome called?
[04:24] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, so you can't see the task thingy either?
[04:24] <joaquinz> ?
[04:24] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, Metacity.
[04:24] <J-_> when running a stand alone server, the server having an internal static ip, should i also have an internal static ip on my desktop too?
[04:24] <Stargazers> Well, there is no process called "Metacity" or like that.
[04:24] <Stargazers> Oh!
[04:25] <Stargazers> I run it myself and now it started :O
[04:25] <joaquinz> hi does anybody know whats the ubuntu's x config tool name?
[04:25] <Stargazers> AWOSDev: Thank you, I typed on terminal "metacity &" and now I have borders on my windowses :)
[04:25] <wastrel> joaquinz:  sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:25] <mluser-home> how do I find out what package belongs to a certain file? forexample I want to know what package belongs to /usr/bin/synce-serial-start
[04:25] <AWOSDev> Stargazers LOL np :)
[04:26] <fluxinator> lets see. I have a few social networking sites banned, and icmp filtering enabled. I use shields up to test the firewall (and other tools) and I know that icmp is not blocked and neither are the websites that I blacklisted when firestarter is not running
[04:26] <Wheelybin> Hello there. Can someone tell me about the Ubuntu's filesystem? I'm trying to restart samba using this command /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart
[04:26] <Flannel> mluser-home: packages.ubuntu.com has that functionality, that's porbably easiest
[04:26] <ArrenLex> mluser: can't give you any better ideas than to search for that filename on packages.ubuntu.com (or packages.debian.org, which is a TON faster and has almost the same packages)
[04:26] <AWOSDev> joaquinz, uh where?  You should find it in the Settings-> menu.
[04:26] <snoop> hmm I installed nmapfe and I cant use OS detection it says I need root, but Iam root, do I need to chmod it?
[04:26] <Stargazers> AWOSDev: Any idea what might be the reason that it doesn't load it on startup, eww?
[04:26] <shuan> anyone know why my frostwire doesnt load when i start it
[04:26] <ArrenLex> Whelybin: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[04:26] <mluser-home> thanks.. I was hoping I could do it with dpkg though
[04:26] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, no clue.  personally I use KDE.
[04:26] <joaquinz> AWOSDev: i cant use the X :)
[04:26] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, when I did use GNOME it loaded by itself though :)
[04:27] <Stargazers> Oh.
[04:27] <snoop> hmm I installed nmapfe and I cant use OS detection it says I need root, but Iam root, do I need to chmod it?
[04:27] <ArrenLex> joaquinz: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then.
[04:27] <AWOSDev> joaquinz, ahhhhhhh: xorg --configure IIRC
[04:27] <Stargazers> Have to try to look around to find a way :)
[04:27] <Stargazers> But anyway, thank you all for help. I ask if (=when) I have more problems :D
[04:27] <darnell_> is there a way to take the protection off of a song i downloaded from msn music
[04:27] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, you may add it to your xinitrc though that is a little, uh, not the best way
[04:27] <darnell_> ?
[04:27] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, no problem :)
[04:28] <Wheelybin> thankyou arrenlex
[04:28] <fluxinator> jrib any Ideas?
[04:28] <ArrenLex> darnell: not legally, and not in Linux, AFAIK. There are ways in Windows where you have the keys available.
[04:28] <cycom> Ug.Same for other users.  So it's a universal setting
[04:28] <ArrenLex> darnell: google WMFairuse? I for
[04:28] <ArrenLex> No, not that.
[04:28] <ArrenLex> FairUse4WM
[04:29] <AdamMK> !restricted
[04:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:29] <cycom> Ugh.  It worked in breezy, why not in dapper?
[04:29] <julian> how do you install ntfs write driver
[04:29] <MrKrrtft> hi folks
[04:29] <ArrenLex> !tell julian about fuse
[04:29] <ArrenLex> !hi
[04:29] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:30] <etzerd> Hello all
[04:30] <julian> fuse?
[04:30] <MrKrrtft> !tell mrkrrtft about sound
[04:30] <etzerd> is anyone know when the new version of ubuntu will be release?
[04:30] <Flannel> etzerd: the 26th
[04:30] <Flannel> !fuse
[04:30] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:30] <fluxinator> Flannel, of this month?
[04:30] <julian> is it better than 3g
[04:30] <Flannel> fluxinator: 6.10, so yes.
[04:31] <Stargazers> Btw, is Firefox startup time very slow in your firefox? It takes almost 15 sec for me to load Firefox.
[04:31] <Stargazers> Ok, I love opera anyway much more.
[04:31] <Stargazers> But just in question...
[04:31] <fluxinator> Stargazers, I removed firefox
[04:31] <ubuntu12> I can't unmount a drive
[04:31] <ubuntu12> umount: /mnt/iso: device is busy
[04:31] <Stargazers> fluxinator: Do you use Opera?
[04:31] <ArrenLex> Stargazers: you're probably running a really old machine.
[04:31] <ArrenLex> ubuntu12: fuser -m /mnt/iso will tell you what's using it.
[04:31] <Stargazers> ArrenLex: 1.5Ghz, 768MB.
[04:31] <fluxinator> Stargazers, yes I do
[04:31] <AWOSDev> Stargazers. 15 secs would be fast for me :)
[04:32] <etzerd> thanks Flannel
[04:32] <ArrenLex> Stargazers: Firefox took about 10 seconds to start in Linux on my old 1.6GhZ, 256MB P4 box.
[04:32] <Stargazers> fluxinator: Oh, I use it also BUT I have lost it's menubar in somewhere (I can't see "File", "Edit" etc menus).
[04:32] <ArrenLex> GHz *
[04:32] <DJ_Danni> hey i need help with MySQL extension it is noat work correctly. how can i get it to work correctly?
[04:32] <ubuntu12> /mnt/iso:             5946c
[04:32] <Stargazers> ArrenLex: O-_o.
[04:32] <ubuntu12> what does that mean?
[04:32] <MrKrrtft> Sound Card Question: My sound card isn't being detected at all.  I have a PII with a soundblaster card.  I don't remember the command to detect my sound card so I know what module to load.  Any ideas?
[04:32] <fluxinator> Stargazers lemme take a look
[04:32] <ArrenLex> ubuntu12: process 5946 is what's using it.
[04:32] <ubuntu12> hmm
[04:32] <ubuntu12> k
[04:32] <ubuntu12> I am trying to install UT2k4 off an image
[04:32] <Stargazers> fluxinator: Do you want that I take a screenshot?
[04:32] <ubuntu12> and, it asked for the second CD
[04:33] <ArrenLex> ubuntu12: use "ps 5946" to find out what it is.
[04:33] <fluxinator> Stargazers, view menu dude, see if that helps
[04:33] <|in70x|> I need some freed back on ubuntu fellas
[04:33] <ubuntu12> but I can't unmount the first
[04:33] <|in70x|> to make me consider switching
[04:33] <|in70x|> does it install kernel source
[04:33] <|in70x|> ?
[04:33] <ArrenLex> ubuntu12: if it's something you don't need, you can kill it with "kill 5946"
[04:33] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me wit that??
[04:33] <|in70x|> at install
[04:33] <Stargazers> fluxinator: View menu, but the problem is that I have no any menu?
[04:33] <Stargazers> So I can't go on View menu :D
[04:33] <ubuntu12> it says "bash" is using it
[04:33] <ArrenLex> in70x: no. You can install source by going "apt-get install linux-kernel-source"
[04:33] <ArrenLex> ubuntu12: then your shell is currently browsing that folder.
[04:33] <fluxinator> you dont have file, view and those things?
[04:33] <ubuntu12> ok
[04:34] <ubuntu12> thanks
[04:34] <DJ_Danni> hey i need help with MySQL extension it is noat work correctly. how can i get it to work correctly?
[04:34] <Stargazers> http://stargazers.kapsi.fi/screenshots/opera_without_menus.png
[04:34] <Stargazers> That is the screenshot.
[04:34] <ubuntu12> arrenlex: thanks thanks thanks
[04:35] <fluxinator> Stargazers, right click and select customize
[04:35] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me?
[04:35] <Stargazers> fluxinator: Yes? And then?
[04:36] <cycom> Grr.  It seems to think volume down is button 2 (as in mouse button 2)
[04:36] <ArrenLex> cycom: on the keyboard?
[04:36] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me?????
[04:37] <cycom> ArrenLex: correct. xev tells me this
[04:37] <Vuen> hey all, simple question, my computer is currently called nick-desktop
[04:37] <Vuen> how can i change the name to just nick?
[04:37] <lwarimav> Hi all I've just configure my /etc/sudoer, and then I do not know how to activate it
[04:37] <lwarimav> Can anyone help?
[04:37] <ArrenLex> Screwy.
[04:37] <Vuen> lwarimav, did you edit it with visudo?
[04:37] <wastrel> lwarimav:  did you use visudo to edit it?
[04:37] <Vuen> <.< >.>
[04:37] <wastrel> <3 vuen
[04:38] <fluxinator> stargazers give me a second to find out what the hell is going on
[04:38] <cycom> ArrenLex: It's a combination receiver for the mouse/keyboard, but I don't see why that would be a problem
[04:38] <DJ_Danni> Hello can somone help me??
[04:38] <lwarimav> Vuen, no i just use the command sudo vi /etc/sudoer....
[04:38] <Stargazers> fluxinator: Ok :)
[04:38] <ArrenLex> Vuen: man hostname
[04:38] <wastrel> Vuen:  you need to change the hostname in /etc/hosts  and /etc/hostname  but sudo will break once you do one so sudo su first so you can get them both done without locking yourself out of super user
[04:38] <steveneddy> when will the xorg 7.1 be relaesed for Dapper?
[04:38] <Lock-Dog> Ufff
[04:39] <Vuen> wastrel, ArrenLex, thanks
[04:39] <Lock-Dog> Can`t see russian folders or files in mounted ntfs hd`s :(((( Ne1 can hlp pls?
[04:39] <wastrel> ah hostname  well if we're using commands ;] 
[04:39] <cycom> ArrenLex: It's insane.  Button 2 is the middle mouse button.  Why would volume down = middle mouse button?
[04:39] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me here?
[04:39] <lwarimav> wastrel, i use sudo vi /etc/sudoers
[04:39] <ArrenLex> wastrel: better than "this might lock you out of your shell so good luck ;)"
[04:39] <Vuen> !ask > DJ_Danni
[04:39] <jspiro> wastrel: visudo is better.
[04:39] <ArrenLex> lwarimav: you have to use visudo as root.
[04:40] <DJ_Danni> Have try 3 times
[04:40] <DJ_Danni> a
[04:40] <DJ_Danni> a
[04:40] <DJ_Danni> hey i need help with MySQL extension it is noat work correctly. how can i get it to work correctly?
[04:40] <ArrenLex> lwarmiav: how on earth did you miss this line in that file? "# This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root."
[04:40] <lwarimav> Arenlex: how will i do that? I'm a beguinner in debian linux
[04:40] <steveneddy> & a bad speller at that
[04:41] <Lock-Dog> /dev/hda1 /windows/C ntfs ro,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=CP1251,unicode
[04:41] <fluxinator> Stargazers, http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=752
[04:41] <Lock-Dog> Still it isn`ty working :(
[04:41] <Lock-Dog> WHy?
[04:41] <Stargazers> LMS.
[04:41] <cycom> what's a way to pull keyboard chars without X? like xev but from a console?
[04:41] <DJ_Danni> Vuen hey i need help with MySQL extension it is noat work correctly. how can i get it to work correctly?
[04:41] <Stargazers> fluxinator: <3 <3 <3 <3 <3!
[04:41] <fluxinator> Stargazers just hit alt+f11
[04:41] <Stargazers> THANK YOU! \o/
[04:41] <Stargazers> It work!
[04:41] <Stargazers> Ahuhuhu!
[04:41] <mfuentes> xserver-xorg-video-i810 or xserver-xorg-video-intel?? what's the best for a 945GM?
[04:41] <ArrenLex> lwarimav: how do you do what? Use the visudo command as root?
[04:42] <Stargazers> Oh, I really Love you dude :O
[04:42] <fluxinator> Stargazers, one more thing
[04:42] <Stargazers> I have tried to fix that many times.
[04:42] <Stargazers> Ok, tell me? :)
[04:42] <Lock-Dog> Excuse me... No one knows?!?!?!?!?
[04:42] <lwarimav> Arrenlex: How will i do that ? I am a beguinner in linux...
[04:42] <Lock-Dog> 834 users and no one can help, unbelievable....!!!!
[04:42] <fluxinator> take a look at http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ for the latest builds of opera for ubuntu
[04:42] <ArrenLex> lwarimav: then what are you doing in the sudoers file?
[04:43] <ArrenLex> lwarimav: by typing "sudo visudo". If you're a beginner, make sure you have guides to help you so you don't screw it up, because sudoers is kind of important on Ubuntu.
[04:43] <ablyss> anyone by chance able to purchase a full copy of Unreal Tournament 2004 for linux, if so, can you tell me where you bought it at so I can buy it too
[04:43] <Stargazers> Ok, have to look :)
[04:43] <jspiro> Lock-Dog: most are spectators. try the mailing lists instead: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[04:43] <SuperMiguel> can any one help me with a mail server?
[04:44] <nosoapdotorg> can anyone help me with subversion..?? pm if you are up for it
[04:44] <nosoapdotorg> just real quick
[04:44] <DJ_Danni> hey i need help with MySQL extension it is noat work correctly. how can i get it to work correctly? Can somone help me with this or noat????????????
[04:44] <fluxinator> http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-434/intel-linux/en/opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb is the link for build 434 on linux, precisely it can be used for dapper
[04:44] <nosoapdotorg> thanks
[04:44] <jspiro> Lock-Dog: IRC is good when it works but can be an unreliable support mechanism. also, try channel ##linux, i like it.
[04:44] <Vuen> yay
[04:44] <Vuen> changed my hostname
[04:44] <Vuen> sudo seems to still work
[04:44] <jspiro> DJ_Danni: if you have no luck here, try #mysql or try the ubuntu mailing lists instead: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[04:44] <jspiro> nosoapdotorg: most of us not help people by PM.
[04:45] <wastrel> mysql extension for apache?
[04:45] <wastrel> use the lamp howto
[04:45] <Lock-Dog> 10x
[04:45] <jspiro> Lock-Dog: what is 10x?
[04:45] <Lock-Dog> Thanx
[04:45] <wastrel> heh
[04:46] <lwarimav> Arrenlex: after sudo vi /etc/sudoer, and after bringing some changes in it, I do now how to get out of config. and activate it... It there a command that I can use to quit /etc/sudoer ?
[04:46] <Stargazers> Opera <3. Ah, so much better than anything.
[04:46] <nosoapdotorg> k...
[04:46] <q83> Hey, I was wondering if there was a way to edit my login screen's theme other than with Login Window?
[04:46] <Stargazers> Now I try to boot my system and see if this loads Metacity right :)
[04:46] <Stargazers> ->
[04:47] <Lock-Dog> Got that? ;)
[04:47] <jspiro> ablyss: is it useful?
[04:47] <ArrenLex> lwarimav: why are you still using the wrong command? How much clearer can I possibly be? It's "sudo visudo".
[04:47] <jspiro> Lock-Dog: yes, t_ :)
[04:47] <jspiro> t_ stands for thank you btw. :)
[04:47] <nosoapdotorg> im new to development with other people.....someone gave me a link with the svn:// protocol to help with the project but I have no clue what to do?
[04:47] <nosoapdotorg> new to sub version
[04:47] <Lock-Dog> np ;)
[04:47] <nosoapdotorg> know where i can get documentation or a quick explanation ......program etc
[04:48] <linuxisghey> linux sucks monkey balls
[04:48] <carthik> nosoapdotorg, search for an svn primer or tutorial and read it?
[04:48] <Kyral> Aww
[04:48] <nosoapdotorg> thanks
[04:48] <jspiro> nosoapdotorg: ah! if you're into books get the svnbook. google for svnbook. its a free ~400 page pdf
[04:48] <Kyral> I was gonna flame his ass to hell
[04:48] <AfterDeath> score one for Madpilot
[04:48] <nosoapdotorg> great
[04:48] <carthik> Madpilot, i was just about to tell him something.....
[04:48] <fluxinator> lol
[04:48] <nosoapdotorg> thank you
[04:48] <flodine> can someone tell me how to reconfigure gmpc to play music
[04:48] <ablyss> jspiro: yes. I use it for security ( away from home modes ) and also have sprinkler relays controlled via x10 outlets. all which are ran via linux cron scripts
[04:48] <JNeverMind> is there a quick way to switch to 2.4 kernel? i have a new install of 6.06 server
[04:49] <jspiro> ablyss: cool!
[04:49] <Consty> Anyone do flash development in ubuntu?  If so what applications are available to do so?
[04:49] <ablyss> jspiro: its very simple too
[04:49] <carthik> nosoapdotorg, http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Subversion is short and sweet... to get you started
[04:50] <ablyss> jsedgwick: http://heyu.tanj.com/ << linux software for x10 serial adapter ( aka CM11A computer interface ) and of course you can buy x10 devices anywhere these days
[04:50] <Atomiku> Hey, For a few reasons I cant run the live CD from the CD drive, so I tried extracting the contents of the ubuntu ISO onto a blank HDD but when I boot up the computer I get "NTLDR is missing"
[04:51] <ArrenLex> Consty: Flash as in Macromedia Flash?
[04:51] <Atomiku> Is there any way I can boot the ubuntu CD from a HDD?
[04:51] <Consty> ArrenLex: Correct
[04:51] <ablyss> jspiro: sorry that link was for you
[04:51] <slavik> remember me?
[04:51] <ArrenLex> Consty: I strongly advise you not to create anything for Linux which uses Flash. You are aware of the current Flash situation in Linux?
[04:51] <slavik> Atomiku: no
[04:52] <Atomiku> damnit
[04:52] <Consty> ArrenLex: The sound issue?  Come now.. the beta version of 9 for linux comes out this week!
[04:52] <m0`> hi how easy is it to change our computer name from m0 to thedevil
[04:52] <Atomiku> rrraaagggeeee
[04:52] <slavik> Consty: we wait for release here
[04:52] <Celeste> is there a native english speaker?
[04:52] <fluxinator> atomiku you can boot a live cd from usb
[04:52] <Madpilot> Consty, really? I'll believe it when I download it, not before...
[04:52] <Atomiku> hmm
[04:52] <Xenguy> m0`: hostname   ?
[04:52] <SuperMiguel> how can i know if my mail server is running
[04:52] <Madpilot> Celeste, lots of them
[04:52] <Atomiku> I only have a 128mb usb stick
[04:52] <aedinius> What do you guys recommend for iTunes replacements?
[04:52] <Celeste> Madpilot, are you?
[04:52] <SuperMiguel> aedinius: you want to pay or free?
[04:52] <ArrenLex> Consty: I'll believe the beta when I see it. Not only the sound issue, the fact that the latest player we have is version 7. A lot of Linux people dislike Flash immensely for this reason and do not have it installed.
[04:52] <freakabcd> hi all
[04:53] <Madpilot> Celeste, yes
[04:53] <ablyss> hi freakabcd
[04:53] <freakabcd> how do i double the resolution?
[04:53] <cpk2> aedinius: amarok is really nice
[04:53] <aedinius> SuperMiguel: How about obht?
[04:53] <Celeste> Madpilot, may I ask you to correct me a sentence, please?
[04:53] <freakabcd> i don;t know exactly what that statement means :(
[04:53] <SuperMiguel> obht?
[04:53] <Atomiku> Even if I could put a linux distro on it... How can I install ubuntu on a hard drive without using the CDROM at all?
[04:53] <Madpilot> Celeste, sure
[04:53] <freakabcd> but maybe repeat every pixel once in each direction?
[04:53] <Shadow_mil> how do I make the gnome panel only expand part of the way across the bottom?
[04:53] <slavik> wine+win version 7 of flash is faster than flash version 6for linux :)
[04:53] <cpk2> Atomiku: net install
[04:53] <freakabcd> i mean: similar to scale to 200% but no interpolation, etc.
[04:53] <Celeste> Madpilot,  "You can cross country ski in direct ambiance in <foo>,  <bar> and <foobar>"
[04:53] <Atomiku> yeah I was also wonedering on how to do a network boot
[04:53] <fluxinator> atomiku you can install from usb because the live cd supports it
[04:53] <freakabcd> just reoeat pixels
[04:54] <ArrenLex> Consty: furthermore, if this debacle happened once, it'll happen again. Windows users will have v. 11 while we still only have 9. And this will happen again.
[04:54] <Atomiku> Hmmm...
[04:54] <Madpilot> Celeste, can I PM you? This is offtopic for this channel, and it's busy here.
[04:54] <freakabcd> uh..
[04:54] <freakabcd> no wonder!
[04:54] <Atomiku> fluxinator: I only have a 128mb usb stick
[04:54] <Celeste> of course Madpilot !!
[04:54] <Consty> ArrenLex: Still doesn't answer my original question however.. we got side tracked.
[04:54] <freakabcd> i was thinking why the hecl are all these people asking ubuntu questions in #gimp
[04:54] <ArrenLex> Consty: thirdly, actually answering your question, there is nothing useable which allows you to create flash animation on Linux. Openoffice.org Draw and some other programs allow you to export images to .swf format. For animation, your best bet is to run Flash MX under wine (nothing above or below MX works well).
[04:54] <Atomiku> Well a network boot sounds like a good idea
[04:54] <Madpilot> Celeste, actually, even easier - join #ubuntu-doc, which is currently very quiet
[04:54] <aedinius> Eep. Amarok wants a lot of KDE stuffs.
[04:54] <freakabcd> bah, i was one in the wrong!! grr
[04:55] <fluxinator> Atomiku perhaps you can use the usb method to boot from the hdd
[04:55] <Atomiku> hmmm
[04:55] <JNeverMind> is there a quick way to switch my ubuntu 6.06 server installation to kernel 2.4 ?
[04:55] <cpk2> aedinius: its a kde app =)
[04:55] <Atomiku> Any suggestions on that would be great
[04:55] <azureal> hi; where is the file that controls xdm?
[04:55] <aedinius> Nasty.
[04:55] <fluxinator> /etc/rc.firewall does not exist !!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:55] <cpk2> aedinius: why is that?
[04:55] <fluxinator> how is that possible
[04:55] <aedinius> cpk2: I despise GNOME and KDE.
[04:55] <slavik> JNeverMind: install a2.4 kernel (should be in the repos)
[04:55] <Consty> ArrenLex: I see.. I've read though that there are open source compilers to compile actionscript code for flash.. forget the name haxe I think.
[04:55] <Atomiku> When the computer boots up (its packard bell) I get an option to do a network boot... What software do I need running on this computer so I can load ubuntu on the other one?
[04:55] <aedinius> I don't so much despise XFCE, but it seems to be going after GNOME now.
[04:56] <ArrenLex> Consty: I don't know about that. If you're willing to manually create swf movies from actionscript code, be my guest.
[04:56] <ArrenLex> Consty: google is your friend for that.
[04:56] <JNeverMind> is there a url for browsing the repository ?
[04:56] <fluxinator> why do I not have a /etc/rc.firewall ?@
[04:56] <wastrel> !packages
[04:56] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:56] <wastrel> /etc/init.d/firewall ?
[04:57] <fluxinator> no guarddog... false alarm
[04:57] <Atomiku> Hmmm
[04:57] <fluxinator> Guarddog was unable to find a Guarddog firewall at /etc/rc.firewall.
[04:57] <Atomiku> cpk2: How do I net install?
[04:57] <wastrel> guarddog eh
[04:57] <fluxinator> because firestarter is being absolutely ridiculous atm
[04:57] <lee_> what is the best wireless applet?
[04:58] <puff> fluxinator: Yeah, I think something was funky iwth my mount point.
[04:58] <fluxinator> atomiku see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetbootInstallHowto
[04:58] <Atomiku> Thanks :D
[04:58] <Atomiku> Ill check it
[04:58] <fluxinator> puff I had the exact same problem
[04:59] <willys_fueguino> ji??
[04:59] <willys_fueguino> *hi
[04:59] <willys_fueguino> !time
[04:59] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[04:59] <DavidCraft> what is the text based utility on ubuntu to install a gui package when the LAMP server was installed?
[05:00] <fluxinator> could someone help me with guarddog ?
[05:00] <slavik> DavidCraft: aptitude?
[05:00] <slavik> DavidCraft: apt?
[05:00] <glitch-> when i go there i cant watch the stream ..windows media player ..it doesnt load.whats wrong with my ubuntu
[05:02] <jspiro> Atomiku: why use netboot when blank CDs are a dollar a dozen? CD installation is easier.
[05:02] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Celeste about register
[05:03] <fluxinator> can anyone help me with configuring guarddog
[05:03] <fluxinator> ?
[05:03] <DavidCraft> ok, if i want to install the default gui on the server distrobution that i have installed (will take like 60+ minutes to download desktop ubuntu) what would i do? im switching from a windows server to a linux server, im not the best with linux commands. i only know the very basics
[05:03] <jspiro> fluxinator: try channel #security
[05:03] <Dr_willis> fluxinator,  help in what way? You have read up on it?
[05:04] <_rockstar> Fresh install of Kubuntu... When I log into KDM, it goes to a blank screen, and back to KDM...  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:04] <Juul> hi. i just installed the newest madwifi drivers from svn against the official ubuntu kernel source, installed the modules and everything seemed to work, i can scan and get a list of access points, but i cannot associate with an access point
[05:04] <wastrel> DavidCraft:  you want sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop    it's going to download gnome and a lot of programs and will take a while, but not as long as an install CD
[05:04] <Juul> i've tried manually setting the access point channel, essid and address
[05:04] <wastrel> _rockstar:  sounds like your X server isn't configured properly
[05:04] <Juul> but no go
[05:04] <Juul> any ideas?
[05:05] <DavidCraft> whats the default root password? i dont remember entering one in during the install
[05:05] <_rockstar> wastrel, if KDM comes up, my Xserver is working fine, ent?
[05:05] <wastrel> DavidCraft:   use your user password for sudo.
[05:05] <azureal> DavidCraft, you have to make
[05:05] <azureal> it
[05:05] <_rockstar> DavidCraft, root is disabled in the default install
[05:05] <azureal> but this channel recommends using sudo rather than root =)
[05:06] <wastrel> _rockstar:  i don't think kdm requires X to be running.
[05:06] <wastrel> happy to be corrected if wrong.
[05:06] <azureal> i'm looking at all the files in /etc/X11/xdm, but i cant find any that start my fluxbox session =/
[05:06] <sproingie> kdm starts X
[05:06] <_rockstar> wastrel, KDM needs X
[05:06] <DavidCraft> k im in aptitude, do i go to new packages/base/main OR gnome/main?
[05:07] <sproingie> kdm starts X itself, that's its job
[05:07] <wastrel> sproingie:  so if he's getting the GUI kdm login screen , is that X or something else?
[05:08] <_rockstar> wastrel, That's X
[05:08] <azureal> why do i not have a /etc/rc.conf  ?
[05:08] <SuperMiguel> does any one know something about fomains?
[05:08] <SuperMiguel> domains*
[05:08] <wastrel> i know some things about domains.
[05:08] <SuperMiguel> for me to haven an email server i need to pay for the domain mail system?
[05:09] <SuperMiguel> have*
[05:09] <SuperMiguel> or i can just make one on ubuntu
[05:09] <SuperMiguel> and set it up to use that domain
[05:09] <cschneid> is there a good money tracking package that is MUCH simpler than gnucash?  I have no need for all that fancyness, just need to track spending + categories
[05:09] <wastrel> cschneid:  if you find one let me know :] 
[05:09] <j-swim> hey folks, can anyone please tell me how to get mp3 support in edgy?
[05:09] <sproingie> wastrel: it's both.  kdm is KDE's version of xdm, xdm starts up multiple X displays.  it's the equivalent of getty for X (assuming you know about getty)
[05:10] <wastrel> edgy chat on #ubuntu+1
[05:10] <amicrawle> hey my printer stoped accecpting jobs
[05:10] <amicrawle> how to get it to do more jobs
[05:10] <wastrel> my printer is a source of much frustration.
[05:10] <jspiro> j-swim: edgy is beta software. try #ubuntu+1 or better yet check google first :)
[05:10] <sproingie> wastrel: its job is basically to connect an X display to your login
[05:10] <hollaback83> i want to install a different gui like the glx is there one for ubuntu and is it even possible
[05:11] <j-swim> jspiro: i will, but obviously i checked google first.
[05:11] <ablyss> hobbesmaster: maybe see #ubuntu-xgl
[05:11] <alscorpion> any PHP helper ???
[05:11] <ablyss> hollaback83: maybe see #ubuntu-xgl
[05:12] <wastrel> SuperMiguel:  if you want people to be able to email you with  supermiguel@supermiguel-domain.com  you need to pay for supermiguel-domain.com
[05:12] <_rockstar> alscorpion, how 'bout ##php, unless it's something small...
[05:12] <domoking> does anyone have an ATI card? if so can i see your xorg.conf? I just need to enable direct render but dont know how
[05:12] <alscorpion> _rockstar, well I will tell you my problem and you can decide
[05:12] <kalelme> hello guys
[05:13] <ablyss> hello kalelme
[05:13] <kalelme> i have some problem with my ubuntu and bluetooth, any can help me ^-^
[05:13] <J-_> how would i know what groupname i'm using? will there be one if i didn't set one?
[05:14] <Atomiku> hmmm how do I netinstall from windows :S
[05:14] <wastrel> !ati
[05:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <kalelme> my kernel is 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP and have the module cdc_acm mount but when  i connet the device not work
[05:14] <bintut> domoking: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:15] <kalelme> Oct 16 22:55:30 localhost kernel: [17184700.264000]  drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: v0.23:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters
[05:15] <J-_> !groupname
[05:15] <kalelme> Oct 16 22:55:45 localhost kernel: [17184715.448000]  usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groupname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <kalelme> Oct 16 22:55:46 localhost kernel: [17184715.768000]  Bluetooth: HCI USB driver ver 2.9
[05:15] <kalelme> Oct 16 22:55:46 localhost kernel: [17184715.776000]  usbcore: registered new driver hci_us
[05:15] <kalelme> this is all line in my  /var/log/message
[05:15] <DavidCraft> um, what does "no packages will be installed, removed, or upgraded. Some packages could be upgraded but you have chosen not to upgrade them. Type U to prepare an upgrade" mean exacly?
[05:16] <DavidCraft> I tried to install teh ubuntu desktop
[05:16] <Warbo> DavidCraft: No packages will be upgraded, even though some could be
[05:16] <Warbo> DavidCraft: Maybe some stuff conflicts
[05:16] <DavidCraft> i am in the LAMP server install, there is no "ubuntu-desktop" installed at all (that im aware of)
[05:16] <kalelme> no see the attack device for the Bluetooth, any have some idea?
[05:17] <thejoeandchip> is there a way to install everything from the repositories?  i mean EVERYTHING with apt?  if so, how many GB (TB?) would that take?
[05:17] <Atomiku> hmmm how do I netinstall from windows :S
[05:17] <wastrel> it would be impossible to install everything because some packages conflict with each other.
[05:17] <Warbo> thejoeandchip: Some packages cannot be installed together (for instance, I know there are at least 3 telnet packages, only one of which can be installed at a time)
[05:17] <Atomiku> oh
[05:17] <Vuen> thejoeandchip: even if you could, that would be a big waste of the server's bandwidth
[05:18] <Atomiku> I think I got it
[05:18] <Vuen> Warbo: lots of other packages conflict, for example try installing gvim
[05:18] <sproingie> thejoeandchip: other than the packages that conflict with each other, i imagine you could.  it'd take a few hundred gigs, less than a TB i would imagine
[05:18] <Vuen> there's like 8 different versions
[05:18] <Warbo> kalelme: You are looking for your USB Bluetooth device?
[05:18] <xnt> hi... i have ubuntu 6.06 but my laptop's battery doesn't seem to last very long... what can i do?
[05:18] <SuperMiguel> does any one know if i get a domain from godaddy.com how can i put it on my ubuntu?
[05:18] <sproingie> thejoeandchip: even without the conflicts, your system would probably be quite broken
[05:18] <Warbo> Vuen: Exactly, but I could only remember the telnet one (and I despise Vi :) )
[05:18] <xnt> SuperMiguel, create a DNS Server
[05:19] <thejoeandchip> hmm, ok, i was just thinking for shits and giggles to do that one day
[05:19] <sproingie> xnt: he doesn't need to create the DNS server, he just has to have godaddy point the DNS at him
[05:19] <xnt> sproingie, seems like i've wasted lot of time then :P
[05:19] <sproingie> xnt: just use godaddy's control panel to point at your ip address and run your server on your ubuntu machine
[05:20] <sproingie> xnt: sorry, wrong
[05:20] <Warbo> thejoeandchip: When using Ubuntu the mentality of: "I may as well install that because it's free" doesn't work because it's ALL free :)
[05:20] <sproingie> wrong person.  damn keyboard is flakey
[05:20] <kalelme> Warbo: yes i read some how to's and the /dev/ttyACM0 no exists in my sistem
[05:20] <wastrel> godaddy will host the zone file ?
[05:20] <wastrel> or is it just the registrar
[05:21] <Warbo> kalelme: From what I know about it there should be info in /proc/bus/usb
[05:21] <Vuen> Warbo: blasphemy! bow to vi in all its glory!
[05:21] <xnt> !laptop
[05:21] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:21] <Warbo> :)
[05:21] <xnt> !battery
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about battery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <sproingie> wastrel: godaddy and all the other registrars will host some basic DNS entries, including www.yourdomain.com, mail.yourdomain.com, etc
[05:22] <SuperMiguel> sproingie: how can i syncronize my ubuntu server with an godaddy domain
[05:22] <charlie> hey everyone, there is a fan controller chipset driver included in the 2.6.18 kernel that i need to control my fan speed. is there any way i can get the driver to work on my dapper install?
[05:22] <bur[n] er> SuperMiguel: you have to point to your dns server... ideally you have a static ip
[05:23] <charlie> or is my only option to wait until ubuntu incorporates 2.6.18 kernel
[05:23] <slavik> charlie: you answered your own question :(
[05:23] <slavik> charlie: unless you compile your own kernel :)
[05:23] <sproingie> SuperMiguel: your question doesn't make any sense
[05:24] <domoking> bintut: that link doesn't help me find who to enable direct rendering for my ATI driver
[05:24] <bur[n] er> i wonder if edgy is tied to 2.6.17 and we'll have wait for edgy+1 for >2.6.18
[05:24] <hollaback83> were do i download the gxl compiz
[05:24] <kalelme> Warbo i send a private with the information
[05:24] <Warbo> Anyone know if regular domain names can point to TOR hidden services? I am forced to run a server through TOR due to firewall restrictions, but want to give it a more memorable URL
[05:24] <sproingie> SuperMiguel: if you have a static ip address, then you just log in to your godaddy account and use the control panel to enter your IP address in
[05:24] <SuperMiguel> for example, if you get an no-ip domain you just download their software and then you install it and its really how do you do that with godaddy?
[05:24] <sproingie> SuperMiguel:  what the heck is a no-ip domain?
[05:24] <slavik> bur[n] er: you are correct
[05:24] <charlie> anyone compile the 2.6.18 kernel to work with dapper?
[05:25] <SuperMiguel> xD
[05:25] <SuperMiguel> www.no-ip.com :P
[05:25] <charlie> slavik: thanks
[05:25] <SuperMiguel> free domains
[05:25] <wastrel> hostname != domain
[05:25] <wastrel> ...
[05:25] <kalelme> Oct 16 23:05:41 localhost kernel: [17185311.480000]  usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[05:25] <charlie> bur[n] er: edgy will have 2.6.17 with some 2.6.18 backports
[05:25] <bintut> domoking: did you followed the howto of the link i gave you?
[05:25] <kalelme> /proc/bus/usb/
[05:25] <kalelme>  001/     002/     003/     004/     005/     devices
[05:26] <kalelme> T:  Bus=05 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=480 MxCh= 8
[05:26] <sproingie> SuperMiguel: you can point a CNAME record from godaddy to your no-ip domain, but you had better check no-ip's terms of service to be sure you can
[05:26] <brendonjt> under kubuntu  how do i find out how much disk space i have free?
[05:26] <kalelme> B:  Alloc=  0/800 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
[05:26] <Warbo> kalelme: Other than looking in /proc/bus/usb I know nothing about Bluetooth. My device was detected automatically and works fine, and I assumed that all of them would because they all use the same chipset don't they?
[05:26] <hollaback83> were can i download the gxl for ubuntu
[05:26] <astrobit> does anybody know how can setup oidentd in ubuntu?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> brendonjt,  i use the shell and df -h : )
[05:26] <sproingie> SuperMiguel: a lot of the dynamic ip providers will ban you if you CNAME them
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !info oidentd
[05:26] <ubotu> oidentd: replacement ident daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7-3 (dapper), package size 49 kB, installed size 192 kB
[05:26] <Dr_willis> astrobit,  just install it...
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> sproingie: i have a final question when i set up an mail server using postfix
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> how can i use it?
[05:26] <Warbo> kalelme: those folders called 001, 002, etc. are your USB ports, and the file "devices" contains info about what is plugged into them
[05:26] <astrobit> yea...bu then how do it configure it
[05:27] <astrobit> its installed now
[05:27] <mikewinsdesk> I have set up Bind 9 with webmin for hosttosucceed.com using nameservers ns1 and ns2.hosttosucceed.com respectively.  I wish to host a domain called bodyshop.com(example) I registered this with dotster.com and the only option they gave me were setting up the nameservers, so i set them up to ns1.hosttosucceed.com and ns2.hosttosucceed.com.  Now im not sure how to configure bind for bodyshop.com, do i make a master zone or a slave z
[05:27] <domoking> bintut: yes i did
[05:27] <brendonjt> Dr_willis: thank you for that
[05:27] <bintut> domoking: did you restart your X?
[05:27] <sproingie> SuperMiguel: you can't CNAME a MX record, most MTA's will refuse to honor it.  get a static IP that lets you run a mail server, or get hosting.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> astrobit,  check its docs? proberl y a config file in /etc/ try man oidentd, try /usr/share/docs/*  , try googling for its homepage?
[05:28] <domoking> not yet
[05:28] <fluxinator> Dr_willis, do I need sunrpc?
[05:28] <SuperMiguel> but when i finish the install of postfix how can i use?
[05:28] <SuperMiguel> how can i make or check my mail?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> brendonjt,  neat trick.. open a shell. use  'watch df -h' :)
[05:29] <edmundo_v> does anyone here uses mc (midnight commander)? and knows what can make it take a long delay to start?
[05:29] <brendonjt> Dr_willis: what does that do
[05:29] <Dr_willis> brendonjt,  updates the drive space every 2 sec or so..
[05:29] <Dr_willis> fluxinator,  ive heard of it.. but never messed withit.
[05:29] <kalelme> Warbo umm ok :(
[05:29] <brendonjt> Dr_willis: cool thanks for your help
[05:30] <fluxinator> well Ive used GRC's shields up and it states that that port is open
[05:30] <Dr_willis> brendonjt,  i use it when doing copies and stuff..  Old-skool :)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> fluxinator,  google is our friend. :P
[05:30] <Dr_willis> fluxinator,  GRC says i am 100% stealthed when i am using the router. :P i got  a few ports open on the linux box when i put it on the DMZ
[05:31] <Shadow_mil> is their is anyway to alpha bleed inactive windows in gnome?
[05:31] <Smotang> Hello! Does anyone know the proper steps to get MP3 song format to be recognised by the media player?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> fluxinator,  i was just there earlier today checking it out.
[05:31] <sproingie> !mp3
[05:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:31] <df> Winamp not Running
[05:31] <fluxinator> Dr_willis, so its a false positive?
[05:31] <Vuen> Smotang: follow the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:31] <Dr_willis> fluxinator,  no idea..  i forget what sunrpc is for... it sure sounds familer..
[05:31] <Dr_willis> rsync perhaps?
[05:31] <Vuen> Smotang: take a few minutes to read through it, it will explain everything
[05:32] <mikewinsdesk> anyone know a good tutorial or can explain setting up bind with a domain name and then having that domain name, nameservers, be the nameservers of another domain example hosttosucceed.com ->ns->ns1.hosttosucceed.com, ns2.hosttosucceed.com  bodyshop.com->ns->ns1.hosttosucceed.com,ns2.hosttosucceed.com, how would i go about getting that setup on bind
[05:32] <Shadow_mil> blending*
[05:32] <SuperMiguel> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[05:32] <Warbo> Shadow_mil: You can use xcompmgr to fade windows in and out, but I don't know of anything which will do that automatically for inactive windows other than Compiz (and I assume Beryl, but haven't tried it)
[05:33] <domoking> bintut: i have no idea what to do anymore still no go =/ any help would be appreciated
[05:33] <Shadow_mil> Warbo: maybe I can alter a style?
[05:34] <Warbo> Shadow_mil: Alpha stuff is not built into GTK (yet) so you would need a program which deals with compositing, either a seperate one like xcompmgr or a compositing window manager like Compiz/Beryl
[05:34] <bintut> domoking: if you followed the link i gave you, you can now logout from your desktop and press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys at the same time
[05:34] <mikewinsdesk> SuperMiguel, already looked at that linux tutorial, mine is more geared towards hosting several sites instead of just one
[05:35] <Shadow_mil> Warbo: I can alpha blend my panel...
[05:35] <SuperMiguel> mikewinsdesk: can i see yours?
[05:35] <Warbo> Shadow_mil: Well, that is actually "fake transparency"
[05:35] <SuperMiguel> does any one have a guide to make a mail server?
[05:35] <mikewinsdesk> SuperMiguel, see the what?, the site is http://www.hosttosucceed.com
[05:35] <Shadow_mil> So?  Ill take that
[05:35] <domoking> bintut: i am on the part where you type in fglrxinfo
[05:36] <domoking> bintut: and i dont hae that correct so i followed the steps they said to do
[05:36] <domoking> bintut: i just rebooted too
[05:36] <Warbo> Shadow_mil: The programs I mentioned will actually give you true transparency, but not in such a specific case as nonresponsive windows
[05:36] <bintut> SuperMiguel: http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html or http://www.tinydns.org/
[05:36] <Shadow_mil> apt-get install xcompmgr?
[05:37] <azureal> hi, where do i put programs and commands that i want to run on startup?  /etc/rc.local?!
[05:37] <Warbo> GNOME's panel doesn't use exactly the same widget-typ-things as the rest of the system, so you can't use fake transparency on anything GTK (like Nautilus for example)
[05:37] <Warbo> Shadow_mil: Yes, but it is slightly more involved
[05:37] <Warbo> hang on, I'll find a guide
[05:37] <bintut> domoking: lets start from scratch.. do this command:  lspci | grep VGA
[05:37] <domoking> bintut: ok
[05:38] <domoking> bintut: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 71c 4
[05:38] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to make an mail server?
[05:38] <slavik> domoking: do you know the model of your card?
[05:38] <domoking> yes i do
[05:38] <slavik> what is it?
[05:38] <Warbo> SuperMiguel: If you are running Ubuntu then you are running a mail server........
[05:38] <domoking> its a FireGL V5200
[05:38] <bintut> domoking: unknown device?
[05:38] <Smotang> I have a question: Is the Multiverse Non-Free mean that we have to pay for the software? or is it that its licensing is non free?
[05:38] <SuperMiguel> Warbo: S which one?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Smotang,  licensing is not free
[05:39] <slavik> Smotang: the latter
[05:39] <Warbo> Smotang: licensing. It is all cost free
[05:39] <Smotang> Thank you!
[05:39] <bintut> domoking: are you sure your chipset is supported by fglrx?
[05:39] <domoking> yes i found this website
[05:39] <domoking> one sec
[05:39] <Warbo> SuperMiguel: I forget, but I know I get mail when, for example, someone mistypes the sudo password
[05:39] <slavik> 5200 is what radeon model?
[05:39] <domoking> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T60p
[05:39] <bintut> slavik: yes
[05:39] <domoking> I have that exact model laptop the T60p
[05:39] <SuperMiguel> :S
[05:40] <domoking> i've been trying to fix this video problem for days now =/
[05:40] <ubuntu> can someone tell me how to install breezy badger?
[05:40] <Shadow_mil> Warbo: how long til Alpha blending is included into GTK?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  why not download and install the newer versions?
[05:40] <Vuen> ubuntu: there's a new version out past breezy badger, it's called dapper drake
[05:40] <Smotang> Is there any difference between binary and source files in the form of needing to be compiled and such? and if so does the computer automatically compile it or is the user required to tweak?
[05:40] <slavik> Shadow_mil: just as long as AIGLX support is in fglrx :(
[05:41] <ubuntu> because my harddrive got whiped and the only cd rom drive i have is my burner
[05:41] <Warbo> Shadow_mil: Well 2.16 apparently has compositing effects built into Metacity, so it shouldn't be too long now there is a base to work from
[05:41] <slavik> Smotang: you will never install sources or stuff from sources (for the most part)
[05:41] <Warbo> Shadow_mil: Anyway, XCompMgr guide here: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/CompositeManagerGuide
[05:41] <Smotang> Ok thanks!
[05:41] <Smotang> So source does require compiling by the end user?
[05:41] <slavik> binary = compiled, sources = code to compile
[05:41] <Smotang> Gotcha
[05:41] <q83> Hi..I'm having a problem switching my login theme in GNOME, when I load login window it sits there on my taskbar for a few seconds saying starting admin app and then disappears.
[05:41] <slavik> yes
[05:41] <Warbo> Smotang: usually, if it is a language which needs compiling like C
[05:42] <Smotang> Thanks
[05:42] <slavik> Warbo: or Java, or even Perl :P
[05:42] <slavik> Someone should write an OS in Perl ...
[05:42] <Dr_willis> slavik,  i think its been done. :)
[05:42] <slavik> :(
[05:42] <sproingie> slavik: don't say that near audrey tang, she might just do it in a weekend
[05:42] <slavik> she?
[05:43] <Warbo> slavik: Well, interpreted languages can be run as-is or made into byte-code for speed. I just stick to Python (and now java)
[05:43] <sproingie> slavik: the evil genius behind perl6
[05:43] <sproingie> slavik: or its only working implementation anyway
[05:43] <slavik> Warbo: I know for a fact that Perl scripts are actually compiled into bytecode before execution
[05:43] <bintut> domoking: patience.. i'll check your hardware specs
[05:43] <bintut> domoking: you mean your vga chipset is MOBILITY FireGL V5200?
[05:43] <bintut> domoking: but your X is working ok, right?
[05:43] <ubuntu> is there a way to instakk dapper drake without a live cd?
[05:44] <Warbo> slavik: So is Python, but since it is at runtime then "compiling" in the classic sense is not used
[05:44] <domoking> bintut: yes my X is working. Heavy graphic sites and splash screens lag my laptop though because of this driver issue.
[05:44] <slavik> Ubuntu: network install?
[05:44] <Warbo> Shadow_mil: You could always try Compiz/Beryl if you are feeling adventurous
[05:44] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,   theres live and alterantive install cd's - but you should clarify your exact problem
[05:44] <mikm[laptop] > ubuntu alternative CD
[05:44] <ubuntu> see i dont have a burner
[05:44] <mikm[laptop] > Oh.
[05:44] <Shadow_mil> Warbo: I want XGL
[05:45] <slavik> warbo perl is compiledjustlike Java is, but at diff ends (user-end vs dev-end)
[05:45] <ubuntu> and when they say cd i dont know if i need a cd or not to do so
[05:45] <Shadow_mil> Warbo: but no way I can support it :(
[05:45] <slavik> ubuntu: shipit
[05:45] <slavik> !shipit
[05:45] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[05:45] <Warbo> Shadow_mil: In my opinion nobody wants XGL, but it is needed by some cards to get Compiz going
[05:45] <dUICE> how can i make apt-get update run though my proxy?
[05:45] <ubuntu> ty
[05:46] <Smotang> Ok I am using Gaim, and at the same time I am playing music, is there any way to lower the sound that gaim produces yet keep the music sound how it is? I dont want to turn off gaim sound entirely? also is it possible to make some sounds louder in gaim than others?
[05:46] <dody> unless you use the new beta nVidia drivers.
[05:46] <bintut> domoking: grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo && grep Mhz /proc/cpuinfo
[05:46] <slavik> Smotang: the first one, probably, the second one, only if you remaster the sounds :)
[05:46] <dody> but he has ATI :(
[05:47] <domoking> bintut: model name = my laptop model?
[05:47] <slavik> anyone read the nvidia drivers exploit?
[05:47] <dody> ?
[05:47] <Warbo> slavik: Sounds like a best-seller
[05:47] <slavik> slashdot.com
[05:47] <dUICE> how can i make apt-get update run though my proxy?
[05:47] <Smotang> Thanks Slavik - So theoretically there is a way to lower the sounds that gaim produces, while at the same time keeping my music's sounds unaffected?
[05:47] <slavik> Warbo: don't nitpick, it'slate
[05:47] <dody> exploit?
[05:47] <bintut> domoking: copy, paste and execute what i gave you
[05:47] <slavik> Smotang: look at alsa-mixer
[05:47] <slavik> should work ...
[05:47] <domoking> bintut: gotcha
[05:48] <domoking> bintut: model name      : Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2500  @ 2.00GHz
[05:48] <slavik> Smotang: how do you like ubuntu so far compared with winxp?
[05:48] <Warbo> Sounds are stored in /usr/share/somewhere so you can use Audacity to make them quieter permanently
[05:48] <Smotang> alsa-mixer? is that a program that i should pull? using apt get?
[05:48] <Smotang> hehe
[05:48] <Smotang> Its very nice
[05:48] <slavik> Smotang: it's already installed ... run 'alsa-mixer' in terminal
[05:48] <Smotang> I like the fact that Ubuntu's Versions of Photoshop and the office bundle is free
[05:48] <bur[n] er> xp doesn't compare to ubuntu :)
[05:49] <Smotang> ah thanks!
[05:49] <slavik> I am not sure you could lower just gaim sounds
[05:49] <Smotang> o
[05:49] <mikm[laptop] > gaim 2 lets you
[05:49] <slavik> Smotang: GIMP is very different to use than photoshop, PS has rectangles and lines... GIMP doesn't
[05:49] <bur[n] er> one surefire way to lower gaim sounds is to remaster the sound files and reduce the volume
[05:49] <sproingie> Smotang: i happily run openoffice on windows.  runs better in fact.
[05:50] <Smotang> Xp has too many bug's for my liking, I hate IE and I hate all the security issues
[05:50] <Warbo> slavik: GIMP has select area+fill and click+shift click
[05:50] <bintut> domoking: check your CPU usage using the "top" command.. how much (in percentage) is it currently using?
[05:50] <fluxinator> I doubt that
[05:50] <Warbo> :)
[05:50] <bur[n] er> sproingie: i tested them... 8 seconds for openoffice writer cold, 3 seconds for word.  both about 2 on warm starts
[05:50] <slavik> Warbo: yes, not very nice IMO, I like the stroke selected area (to color the outside of the box)
[05:50] <sproingie> bur[n] er: oh yeah, it's still slow as molasses, but it's pretty stable
[05:50] <slavik> there is also paths ...
[05:51] <Warbo> paths confuse me
[05:51] <bur[n] er> slavik: line tool for gimp... hold shift with pencil
[05:51] <domoking> bintut: about 8.0%
[05:51] <Smotang> To use IE i need a software firewall + router + 1 Antivirus protection software (AVG in my case) + 1 Spyware removal utility for all the Crap that slips through anyways...
[05:51] <Warbo> bur[n] er: exactly
[05:51] <sproingie> gimp's interface is so painful to use for the most basic operations, it can't even replace PS elements for me
[05:51] <bintut> domoking: ok
[05:51] <slavik> I got Steam stuff and some other windows game to run under wine (I forget now ...)
[05:51] <slavik> and then there is UT2k4
[05:51] <DavidCraft> uh... I got "Ouch! got SIGSEGV, dying... Segmentation fault".  What did I do wrong??
[05:51] <bintut> domoking: let's go back to your vga chipset
[05:51] <slavik> DavidCraft: nothing
[05:52] <domoking> bintut: ok
[05:52] <Smotang> Well I havent experienced GIMP yet
[05:52] <domoking> bintut: did that thinkwiki link help at all?
[05:52] <Warbo> I only ever used Photoshop a few years ago and found it painful to create stuff (rather than manipulate), so I never get why people don't think GIMP is just as hard
[05:52] <Smotang> I just hear that it was like Photoshop but free
[05:52] <sproingie> Warbo: you use illustrator for creating stuff
[05:52] <slavik> DavidCraft: segfault means the program accessed memory it wasn't supposed to ...
[05:52] <bur[n] er> sproingie: use inkscape :)
[05:52] <Warbo> I use Inkscape, GIMP and Moho
[05:52] <slavik> is there an mspaint type thingie?
[05:53] <benlake> anyone familiar with mdadm and it's role in startup on Dapper?
[05:53] <sproingie> bur[n] er: meh.  i use blender ;)
[05:53] <Warbo> (Moho is pathetic for drawing though, so I do all of my drawing in Inkscape then import it to Moho for animation)
[05:53] <slavik> blender is weird
[05:53] <sproingie> blender was written by space aliens
[05:53] <slavik> rofl and monkeys
[05:53] <Warbo> I have to re-learn Blender everytime I use it
[05:53] <sproingie> well, dutchmen anyway.  close enough.
[05:53] <Smotang> But not knowing the command interface (ie basic commands of the computer) to me is rather scary. I have never used UNIX or MAC, though i hear that unix is alike to linux.
[05:53] <dody> blender + me = :D
[05:54] <Warbo> So far I am pretty good at modelling, but haven't figured out how it handles animation, materials, etc.
[05:54] <bur[n] er> Smotang: u can use bash in mac, linux, & unix
[05:54] <bintut> domoking: where are you located?  if you are in the US, copy the contents at http://paste.debian.net/15020 to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:54] <sproingie> i'm terrible at modelling, but i can't even draw a decent circle
[05:54] <slavik> Smotang: alike? MINIX (very small version, printed in back of book about it) was the inspiration for Linux
[05:54] <slavik> bur[n] er: and in windows;)
[05:54] <bur[n] er> and windows... but cygwin is crap
[05:54] <slavik> :(
[05:55] <dody> they need to put the new ver in the repos how ever.
[05:55] <slavik> dody: I agree
[05:55] <sproingie> Warbo: that's usually most people's assessment of blender
[05:55] <Megaqwerty> where can I change my screen resolution?
[05:55] <slavik> system-> pref _> screen res
[05:56] <Megaqwerty> oh, duh thanks
[05:56] <Warbo> sproingie: Never! First thing I made in Blender was a monkey!
[05:56] <slavik> so, need to get a dump of BIOS ... how do I do it?
[05:56] <slavik> Oh oh oh oh!
[05:56] <Warbo> (well, I created a "primitive" which was a monkey)
[05:56] <sproingie> Warbo: yeah it is optimized for monkeys
[05:56] <gord> a monkey named suzanne no doubt ;)
[05:56] <Smotang> Ok another problem Using the Sudo apt-get command and the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#oneline I got this message: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[05:56] <Smotang> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[05:57] <slavik> Smotang: is synaptic open?
[05:57] <Warbo> Smotang: Make sure no other package manager is running
[05:57] <Megaqwerty> check if synaptic is open
[05:57] <Smotang> Um...
[05:57] <Megaqwerty> yeah
[05:57] <Smotang> I have it open i think?
[05:57] <Megaqwerty> close it
[05:57] <slavik> close it
[05:57] <Smotang> ie there is a frame where it is running in the background
[05:57] <sproingie> i could try and build a scene out of nothing but monkeys
[05:57] <Smotang> Ok! thanks!
[05:57] <sproingie> that would be somewhat disturbing
[05:57] <dody> there can be only one.
[05:57] <Warbo> Smotang: Running 2 package managers could cause conflicts (remove stuff in one which is needed by the stuff being installed in another) so it doesn't let you
[05:58] <Smotang> Gotcha!
[05:58] <Smotang> its working
[05:58] <Megaqwerty> :)
[05:58] <Warbo> sproingie: Blender interface: An infinite amount of monkeys may one day end up creating a white sphere
[05:58] <Smotang> so the sudo command does what exactly?
[05:58] <Warbo> !sudo
[05:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:58] <Megaqwerty> super user
[05:58] <Megaqwerty> just for that session
[05:58] <Frederick> folks how do I turn of the auto adjust of the clock for summer time?
[05:58] <Megaqwerty> *for terminal session
[05:58] <bintut> domoking: if you're done in copying the contents of http://paste.debian.net/15020 to your /etc/apt/sources.list, do these commands:  apt-get update && apt-get install -y xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control && aticonfig --initial && aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[05:58] <Warbo> For 15 mins (I think)
[05:59] <wastrel> dri won't work - i followed the wiki page  <3  someone give me a hand?
[05:59] <slavik> 5min
[05:59] <Warbo> oh
[05:59] <dUICE> how can i make apt-get update run though my proxy?
[05:59] <slavik> dUICE: instead of the official mirrors?
[05:59] <bintut> domoking: after you executed the commands i just gave you, do this command to update your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file semi-automatically:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:59] <slavik> dUICE: change your network settings to use the proxy?
[05:59] <Smotang> I tried to install debian on my computer before coming to ubuntu, Unfortunately for me the Xwindow server on the debian release did not have the correct drivers for my vidio card, and i was unable to get Xwindows to work at all :(
[05:59] <Warbo> slavik: I think he means what proxy setting to use (there are loads)
[06:00] <bintut> domoking: make sure that when ask on the video chipset driver, change it to "fglrx"
[06:00] <Smotang> I tried manual configuration but without the proper drivers it did not work
[06:00] <fluxinator> you know what is really pissing me off? Those idiots who say that ubuntu means "cant configure debian"
[06:00] <domoking> bintut: i can copy that whole command you sent me and paste it right?
[06:01] <Smotang> Im not one of those am i?
[06:01] <bintut> domoking: after that, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart your X and use the new configuration and chipset..
[06:01] <Warbo> Ubuntu is just as configurable as Debian really, but there is a desktop system by default instead of a generic one
[06:01] <bintut> domoking: yes, you can
[06:01] <Megaqwerty> bintut: I have problems with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[06:02] <Warbo> (well, I only ever install Debian from CD1 then apt-get the rest after building my modem driver)
[06:02] <fluxinator> smotang I wasnt in any way directing that towards you
[06:02] <Megaqwerty> it works, but when I try to log back in, it just stops
[06:02] <dUICE> i have 5.10 running whats the easyest way to upgrade to 6?
[06:02] <fluxinator> it was a general statement
[06:02] <Megaqwerty> I have to use that combo again, and then restart the computer
[06:02] <Warbo> !upgrade > dUICE
[06:02] <Megaqwerty> bintut: ideas?
[06:03] <Smotang> Yes! i got my music working, Problem is that the graphic that the player is generating is making my computer stall. and i dont know how to turn it off! ahh
[06:03] <Frederick> folks how do I turn off the auto adjust of the clock for summer time?
[06:03] <bintut> Megaqwerty: have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[06:03] <Megaqwerty> no
[06:03] <dUICE> i also have a nforce 4 board do i need to install drivers for my sound or sound it be working?
[06:03] <slavik> Smotang: the visualization?
[06:03] <Megaqwerty> should I pastebin it?
[06:03] <bintut> Megaqwerty: then check it first to give you an idea what's happening..
[06:03] <slavik> Frederick: no idea
[06:03] <Smotang> yea the visualisation
[06:03] <Warbo> Megaqwerty: Is ctrl-alt-backspace "zapping" your X or logging out properly? (Maybe if it's getting zapped some user settings aren't getting saved properly for the next login)
[06:04] <bintut> Megaqwerty: yes, you can
[06:04] <Megaqwerty> k
[06:04] <wastrel> How do I get DRI working for ATI Radeon 9600 ->  did the wikipage, still not working  <3
[06:04] <Warbo> Smotang: What player?
[06:04] <slavik> Frederick: you don't want it to syncronise/update time? or to disable the DST???
[06:04] <slavik> wastrel: did you restart X?
[06:04] <Warbo> wastrel: AFAIK the DRI drivers only go up to Radeon 9250 in Dapper
[06:05] <wastrel> slavik:  yes, and rebooted
[06:05] <wastrel> a couple of times...
[06:05] <slavik> hmm ...
[06:05] <Megaqwerty> bintut: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27063/
[06:05] <Smotang> totem?
[06:05] <domoking> bintut: ok just rebooted
[06:05] <Warbo> Smotang: Ah
[06:05] <slavik> hey, anyone been to digital life by any chance?
[06:05] <Smotang> Waaaiiit, isnt totem a movie player?
[06:05] <Frederick> slavik: what is dst?
[06:05] <slavik> daylight savings time
[06:05] <slavik> the hour ahead/back thing
[06:05] <CNW8835> Smotang: it's both
[06:05] <Warbo> edit>preferences>display>"show visual effects"
[06:06] <ajcates> hello
[06:06] <Warbo> yo
[06:06] <Frederick> slavik: I live in Brazil we have summer time wich advances our clock in 1 hour but it has been suspended because ofthe elections wich are going on thou ubuntu ignores that and advances the clock
[06:06] <ajcates> i am haveing a problem booting up my ubuntu box
[06:06] <Warbo> Frederick: File a bug...........
[06:06] <Megaqwerty> bintut: I haven't used the key combo this session, does that matter?
[06:06] <Warbo> (joking by the way)
[06:06] <Smotang> Yep fixed! opened it in the actual music player, not the Movie player
[06:06] <Jbirk> how is it going/.
[06:07] <Jbirk> does anyone know how to find the chipset of a wireless card?
[06:07] <ajcates> everytime i boot up it says /bin/sh/: can't acess tty; jo contorl turned off
[06:07] <Smotang> I must say i like the workspaces idea, is there any shortcut to switch between them?
[06:07] <Smotang> instead of mouseclicking the little icons?
[06:07] <Warbo> Smotang: ctrl-alt-direction
[06:07] <dUICE> is there a remote desktop program in ubuntu?
[06:07] <Smotang> Sweet thanks!
[06:07] <ajcates> and i get a limited shell
[06:07] <Warbo> Smotang: Personally I can't use a default GNOME system without brightside
[06:07] <ajcates> can't lanuch real programs
[06:07] <Warbo> !info brightside
[06:07] <ubotu> brightside: Add reactivity to the corners and edges of your GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 96 kB, installed size 924 kB
[06:08] <domoking> bintut: do you want me to check anything else?
[06:08] <wastrel> dUICE:  rdesktop
[06:08] <Smotang> Brightside?
[06:08] <Warbo> ajcates: Is that shell busybox?
[06:08] <ajcates> yep
[06:08] <Smotang> Warbo: what is brightside?
[06:08] <bintut> Megaqwerty: wait.. i'll check your paste first..
[06:08] <Warbo> Smotang: It switches desktop when the mouse pointer is moved to the edge of the screen
[06:08] <Smotang> !info brightside
[06:08] <ubotu> brightside: Add reactivity to the corners and edges of your GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 96 kB, installed size 924 kB
[06:08] <Megaqwerty> bintut: thanks
[06:08] <Chm0d> hey guys does anyone here use a wintv pvr 150?
[06:09] <Smotang> I dont understand what it does?
[06:09] <bintut> domoking: what have you noticed? where you able to login to your gnome desktop after you rebooted your system?
[06:09] <ajcates> Warbo: you have any idea on how to get my system back to normal
[06:09] <domoking> bintut: yes I have been able to login to gnome. it seems fine but fglrxinfo still gives me domoking@YOKcom:~$ fglrxinfo
[06:09] <domoking> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:09] <domoking> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:09] <domoking> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:09] <domoking> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[06:09] <Warbo> ajcates: Busybox is built into the initrd image, which basically means your system is not booting at all. The most common cause I have found is that the root partition can't be opened
[06:09] <domoking> oops sorry for that paste
[06:10] <bintut> domoking: if yes, open a gnome-terminal and launch the following commands one at a time:  glxgears and fglrxinfo
[06:10] <slavik> Smotang: imagine a cube
[06:10] <Smotang> Warbo: oh that would probably cause trouble with me. I tend to swing my mouse around alot :P
[06:10] <Warbo> slavik: Brightside screws up with Compiz's cube :(
[06:10] <slavik> and each side of the cube is a desktop ...
[06:10] <bintut> domoking: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:11] <slavik> Warbo: you luky to have compiz with hw .... :(
[06:11] <ajcates> Warbo, i have stuck in a live cd and i can acesse the root file system
[06:11] <domoking> bintut: i see the gears are they supposed to go a certain speed/
[06:11] <Smotang> So its kind of like the Mac X desktop? i saw a vidio of that
[06:11] <slavik> Smotang: look for the novel linux desktop on google video :)
[06:12] <slavik> OS X and Windows got nothing on Compiz/Beryl/etc...
[06:12] <domoking> bintut: do you want me to paste you that in pastebin?
[06:12] <ajcates> but when i tried a new live cd of edgy(the version i am on), it says the same thing with the live session
[06:12] <Megaqwerty> bintut: you still reading it?
[06:12] <bintut> domoking: go
[06:12] <bintut> Megaqwerty: wait for a while
[06:12] <Warbo> ajcates: Is this a brand-new install?
[06:12] <slavik> Warbo: 4th dimension?
[06:12] <ajcates> no
[06:12] <Tamed_G> evening all
[06:12] <Megaqwerty> bintut: k
[06:12] <ajcates> started out as breezy(i think)
[06:13] <fluxinator> rotfl
[06:13] <ajcates> upgradeing to drapper with no problemes
[06:13] <slavik> Warbo: if a 3D object casts a 2D shadow, then doesn't a 4D object cast a 3D shadow?
[06:13] <Warbo> hmm, because my system runs from USB and I had to invent a boot CD to get it to work. If your system was working fine before then I don't know what's up
[06:13] <slavik> WE ARE ALL SHADOWS!!!
[06:13] <Frederick> slavik: yep the hour ahead/back
[06:13] <ajcates> and then upgradeding to edgy with alot of them
[06:13] <Frederick> how do I set it off?
[06:13] <domoking> bintut: Driver  "kbd" Driver "mouse" Driver  "synaptics" Driver  "wacom" Driver "wacom" Driver  "wacom" #Driver "vesa" Driver      "fglrx"
[06:13] <blake6489> slavik: yes
[06:13] <sproingie> is there any place i can find the Human theme in different colors?
[06:13] <slavik> Frederick: I don't think you can disable that, wh would you want to?
[06:13] <Tamed_G> anyone around who can give a noob some ATi tweaking advice??
[06:13] <sproingie> i like the theme in general but i'm a little tired of orange
[06:14] <bintut> Megaqwerty: it seems that you don't have any problem with your X.. what's your real problem?
[06:14] <slavik> blake6489: are you fine being a shadow of some ugly alien slimy 4D dude?
[06:14] <Warbo> slavik: Well we could all be 3D projections from gravitational holograms on a 2D membrane in 11 dimensional spacetime (if you want to get really confusing)
[06:14] <Frederick> slavik: cause it is _wrong_
[06:14] <slavik> Frederick: I see, did you try adjust your time?
[06:14] <Frederick> yep
[06:15] <Tamed_G> does 760 fps sound slow for an Ati x800XL in GLXGears?
[06:15] <Warbo> sproingie: gnome-look?
[06:15] <Frederick> ntpd will break it up thou
[06:15] <Megaqwerty> bintut: When I use "CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE" it restarts X (i think) and I get the login screen, but after I put in my details, it goes to the brown screen, but the ubuntu login status thing doesn't ever pop up
[06:15] <talisein> here's a question, how do you display fps in glxgears?
[06:15] <ajcates> warbo, any suggestions on how to fix my problem?
[06:15] <Megaqwerty> bintut: hence, I am unable to get back in without restarting
[06:15] <Tamed_G> glxgears -print fps
[06:16] <Warbo> ajcates: Sorry, could be a few things but I don't know what :(
[06:16] <slavik> Warbo: you forgot the complexity of the flux capacitor in the slip stream drive component of the improbability drive which is connected directly to a bistromathic engine via the use of a towel and a happy vertical people transporter ...
[06:16] <bintut> domoking: do this command "grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and paste it to http://paste.debian.net/
[06:16] <slavik> Tamed_G: printfps is one word :)
[06:16] <Tamed_G> ahh okies
[06:16] <bayzider> WHen i was installing a plug in it tells me to type "make" and i do and the command prompt tells me bash: make: command not found
[06:16] <bintut> Megaqwerty: weird..
[06:16] <talisein> thanks
[06:16] <Megaqwerty> bintut: yeah, I know
[06:16] <Warbo> slavik: Yeah, well I read my theory in New Scientist, not Back to the Future vs. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
[06:16] <Tamed_G> how can I check that I'm definately getting hardware acceleration?
[06:17] <wastrel> bayzider:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:17] <Warbo> (that would be a grwat game.....)
[06:17] <Warbo> *great
[06:17] <bintut> Megaqwerty: it might be a problem of your xorg.. try updating it with apt-get upgrade
[06:17] <domoking> bintut: all set
[06:17] <ThE__CroW_> i need some assistance, i'm trying to get proftpd through apt-get and it can't seem to find the package
[06:17] <slavik> Warbo: it's sweet that you caught it :)
[06:17] <talisein> `
[06:17] <bintut> domoking: where can i find the result of the last command i gave you?
[06:17] <SAS_Spidey01> transconverting 870+ MB of mp3's to ogg vorbis at a higher bit rate, I think I am crazy
[06:18] <talisein> glxinfo|grep direct
[06:18] <slavik> SAS_Spidey01: no, you aren'tcrazy, you are free!!!!!!!!!
[06:18] <wastrel> ThE__CroW_:  did you enable the universe repository?
[06:18] <Warbo> slavik: I hamg around in an Ubuntu support chat room. Of course I would get it
[06:18] <wastrel> glxinfo | grep render   is better
[06:18] <slavik> it's transcoding btw ;)
[06:18] <Megaqwerty> bintut: doesn't look like that would be the case, it's been like this for a while
[06:18] <slavik> Warbo: rofl
[06:18] <Megaqwerty> bintut: I have installed all of the updates as well
[06:18] <domoking> bintut: i'm not sure what you mean? The last command was grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:19] <ajcates> hello
[06:19] <ThE__CroW_> i'm checking though i'm sure i did, lemme check though to be positive
[06:19] <bintut> Megaqwerty: try to check from console (tty1-6) if gnome is running
[06:19] <talisein> hello!
[06:19] <Megaqwerty> bintut: how?
[06:19] <Warbo> hi
[06:19] <bintut> domoking: give me the output of "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[06:19] <wastrel> How do I get my poor ATI card running DRI?  I followed the wiki howto & it didn't work :[
[06:19] <slavik> I need to upgrade my main system, 1GB of ram and athlonxp 2500+ @2.4ghz are not cutting it ...
[06:20] <bintut> Megaqwerty: ps aufx | grep gnome
[06:20] <talisein> wastrel: are you using dapper or edgy? ati proprietary drivers or free drivers?
[06:20] <wastrel> talisein:  dapper & using fglrx
[06:20] <bintut> Megaqwerty: you can also check the log file.. tail -f /var/log/syslog
[06:20] <bayzider> Wastrel: when i ran make at the end it said this make: *** [check-recursive]  Error 1 is that ok?
[06:20] <domoking> bintut: can i paste it to paste.debian/
[06:20] <bintut> domoking: go ahead
[06:20] <wastrel> bayzider:  can't help with that.
[06:20] <domoking> bintut: all set
[06:21] <bintut> domoking: give me the url
[06:21] <talisein> wastrel: grep dri /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:21] <domoking> http://paste.debian.net/15022
[06:21] <bayzider> How do i play .m4a s?
[06:21] <wastrel> talisein:  Load  "dri"
[06:21] <Megaqwerty> bintut: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27064/
[06:21] <bur[n] er> bayzider: i play mine with rhythmbox
[06:21] <talisein> wastrel: okay.. read through your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if it says anything about dri
[06:21] <ThE__CroW_> heh, guess not that would have been helpful
[06:21] <bur[n] er> !tell bayzider about codecs
[06:22] <bayzider> bur[n] er: it plays video pod casts O_0
[06:22] <Warbo> .m4a = MPEG4 adudio doesn't it?
[06:22] <Jbirk> has anyone had success with the Netgear WG311v3?
[06:22] <wastrel> talisein:  it's funny because the xorg log says it's setting up DRI and that it's enabled
[06:22] <Jbirk> Basically, that is their newest Wireless G card
[06:22] <talisein> wastrel: but glxinfo tells you otherwise?
[06:22] <wastrel> talisein:  i wasn't able to find any dri or fglrx errors
[06:22] <wastrel> talisein:  yes.  mesa :p
[06:22] <bur[n] er> bayzider: .m4a is audio... .m4v is silly apple video
[06:23] <bintut> domoking: weird..  your logs and xorg.conf says that you're already using fglrx driver
[06:23] <ajcates> hello
[06:23] <talisein> wastrel: check the top of that log file and make sure that the date on it is today
[06:23] <Warbo> fglrx has broken support for some Radeon cards (like my 9250, but DRI supports that)
[06:23] <bayzider> bur[n] er : then why did the video podcast download like that
[06:24] <Chm0d> can i just use xawtv or something similiar just to watch tv on ubuntu?  Or do I have to actually install mythtv?
[06:24] <bur[n] er> bayzider: because the people who run the site are retarded?
[06:24] <bayzider> most likely
[06:24] <Warbo> bayzider: Try running "file filename.m4a" and see if it's type is detected
[06:24] <tritium> Chm0d: you can use xawtv, or others
[06:24] <bintut> domoking: open your /boot/grub/menu.lst and look for the line that start like this:  # kopt=root
[06:24] <azureal> anyone know how i would make my window manager execute startfluxbox and not fluxbox?
[06:24] <azureal> sry, i mean my display manager***
[06:24] <H080J03> ok
[06:24] <bur[n] er> bayzider: www.whatisthatfile.com and type in .m4a ;)
[06:25] <tritium> Chm0d: zapping, tvtime, for example
[06:25] <Dr_willis> azureal,  create a new menu entry for it.
[06:25] <wastrel> talisein:  yes it's a current logfile :] 
[06:25] <bintut> domoking: and add the following at the last line of the line i just asked you:  elevator=cfq
[06:25] <Frederick> can anyone please help me with my clock?
[06:25] <wastrel> Warbo:  is there a list somewhere of the cards fglrx doesn't like?
[06:25] <azureal> Dr_willis, i don't understand your answer
[06:25] <Warbo> azureal: Z sessions are in /usr/share somewhere I think (I found them by opening up a package which contained a new .desktop profile)
[06:25] <Chm0d> will google that tritium thx
[06:25] <H080J03> warbo, right before it does the whole busybox thing, it says target filesystem doesn't have sbin/init
[06:25] <Warbo> wastrel: Probably, but I don't know where :(
[06:25] <wastrel> also:  i had this working before , but got a new kernel from apt :p
[06:25] <Dr_willis> azureal,  gdm has a menu of sessions.. you can add new sessions to that menu
[06:25] <azureal> i dont have gdm
[06:25] <H080J03> so i was wondering if i could have your sbin/init
[06:26] <tritium> Chm0d: there are packages in the repos
[06:26] <H080J03> jk
[06:26] <Megaqwerty> bintut: did you see my pastebin?
[06:26] <bintut> domoking: also, go to all the lines that starts with "kernel" and add elevator=cfq at the last of those lines
[06:26] <Warbo> H080J03: It does sound like the root filesystem isn't being found. Have you messed around with /etc/fstab at all? (You can check/fix it from a Live CD)
[06:26] <bur[n] er> azureal: you should get it ;)
[06:26] <uncle_leo> oh
[06:26] <H080J03> no i haven't
[06:26] <Dr_willis> azureal,  kdm uses the same .desktop files
[06:26] <bintut> Megaqwerty: your gnome is not working fine..
[06:27] <SAS_Spidey01> I dunno if it makes a difference but audacity is taking mp3's and giving ogg's at a higher bit rate
[06:27] <Megaqwerty> bintut: so...how do I remedy that?
[06:27] <bintut> Megaqwerty: try killing all the gnome instances
[06:27] <Megaqwerty> bintut: how?
[06:27] <Centaur5> I have tried installing Dapper off the text mode cd (live cd doesn't work at all) on an averatec 6200 laptop and the only way to even get through the install is by adding "noapic" to the boot options.  After installing nothing booted in regular or recovery so I tried Edgy and had the exact same thing.  Should I give up on this laptop?
[06:27] <Warbo> Wow, just realised I miss spelled X
[06:27] <talisein> wastrel: hmm... is there an update-alternatives for GLX?
[06:27] <bur[n] er> kdm should work for fluxbox though
[06:27] <bintut> Megaqwerty: from console..  kill -9 pid
[06:27] <domoking> bintut: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro single elevator=cfq
[06:27] <domoking> bintut: like that right
[06:27] <Dr_willis> hmm when i installed fluxbox - it added a entry to the kdm/gdm session list
[06:27] <bur[n] er> note to self... don't buy averatec even though they look freakin sweet
[06:28] <talisein> wastrel: oh, you've rebooted right?
[06:28] <azureal> Warbo, i do have a fluxbox.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions, but everywhere it says /usr/bin/startfluxbox... so i dont see why it continues to run the executable  fluxbox instead
[06:28] <Centaur5> bur[n] er: yeah, stay away from them!
[06:28] <krystoff> hi there, please i'm in trouble with evolution... seems retrain well but filter no spam by itself
[06:28] <wastrel> talisein:  yes ;] 
[06:28] <Megaqwerty> bintut: i wan't able to run that but "kill 9" worked
[06:28] <krystoff> do i have somthing special to do ?
[06:28] <bintut> Megaqwerty: where pid is the process id of each command.. it's the output of your ps aufx | grep gnome
[06:28] <bintut> domoking: right
[06:28] <bur[n] er> Centaur5: i've heard they run ok some of them, but not ideal.. check the wiki?
[06:28] <Warbo> azureal: That is a text file, open it up in gksudo gedit and change the command it runs
[06:28] <azureal> Warbo, lol, i'
[06:29] <azureal> Warbo i'm trying to tell you that the file already looks correct
[06:29] <Warbo> oops, just reread your message
[06:29] <Centaur5> bur[n] er: my sister's had a real mess when upgrading to Dapper but atleast it would boot. This one is a disaster.
[06:29] <talisein> wastrel: I dunno. ;) Btw my ATI card on my edgy machine is using the free driver and pulls 4000 fps
[06:29] <bintut> domoking: once you have done, you can reboot now
[06:29] <dUICE> how do i restart X?
[06:29] <Warbo> dUICE: ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:29] <Megaqwerty> bintut: I'm confused, did I do that incorrectly?
[06:29] <talisein> dUICE: System -> Logout then logout. At the login prompt, ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:29] <Dr_willis> i would guess 'startfluxbox' sets up a few things.. then runs fluxbox
[06:30] <Warbo> startfluxbox is probably a shell script which sets up environment variables for fluxbox, then runs fluxbox
[06:30] <bintut> Megaqwerty: maybe..
[06:30] <wastrel> i don't know if the free driver supports 9600?  i have a 7500 on my desktop that works fine with the free driver.
[06:30] <bintut> guys, i have to go for a while.. i'm hungry already.. i have to take my lunch..
[06:30] <bintut> brb
[06:30] <talisein> wastrel: my card is a 9600
[06:30] <Tamed_G> what is the free driver?
[06:30] <talisein> wastrel: but this support is only in edgy afaik
[06:30] <wastrel> hmm ok
[06:30] <wastrel> ah yes :] 
[06:30] <Warbo> wastrel: There are 2 free drivers: ati supports every card for 2D, radeon supports a few cards for 3D
[06:30] <DavidCraft> how do you start the ubuntu desktop from the command line
[06:30] <DavidCraft> ?
[06:31] <wastrel> Warbo:  of course, 2d is a given ;]   i'm talking 3d
[06:31] <bur[n] er> DavidCraft: gnome desktop?  xfce desktop?  kde desktop?
[06:31] <azureal> Warbo, oh, i'm going to try putting my startup commands + programs in /usr/bin/startfluxbox rather than ~/.fluxbox/startup...
[06:31] <Warbo> DavidCraft: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" (or restart)
[06:31] <talisein> DavidCraft: startx. But sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart might be better
[06:31] <Tamed_G> radeon comes from ati?
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> DavidCraft: What Warbo said
[06:31] <DavidCraft> kthx
[06:31] <Warbo> radeon driver is from DRI project
[06:31] <talisein> azureal: use your home directory, you shouldn't edit system scripts ;)
[06:31] <Megaqwerty> bintut: could you clarify that?
[06:31] <Warbo> talisein: I disagree, as long as the scripts are in /usr/local
[06:32] <azureal> talisein, that's what the problem was... for some reason ~/.fluxbox/startup file was not read
[06:32] <bur[n] er> uhh... isn't it ~/.fluxbox/autostart or something else? does the ~/.fluxbox/init file point to the autostart
[06:32] <azureal> ok i'm going to experiment
[06:32] <talisein> Warbo: well, ok. copy /usr/bin/startfluxbox to /usr/local/bin/startfluxbox, and edit that
[06:32] <talisein> azureal: hold up a tick
[06:33] <DavidCraft> thank you, works ;)
[06:33] <azureal> talisein, it's me who needs the help, not warbo, lol
[06:33] <azureal> lmao
[06:33] <domoking> bintut: ok back
[06:33] <talisein> azureal: just agreeing. ;)
[06:33] <Tamed_G> how do I find the Radeon driver? Is it the same as the Ati 8.29.6 driver?
[06:33] <talisein> azureal: um, try to put up startup programs in ~/.xsession ?
[06:34] <talisein> qor even better .xinitrc
[06:34] <talisein> yeah
[06:34] <azureal> talisein, yea i think i experimented w/ .xsession and .xinitrc
[06:34] <Warbo> Tamed_G: It is installed by default, but only enabled for cards which support it (eg. I het 3D acceleration out of the box on my Radeon 9250)
[06:34] <talisein> oic
[06:34] <azureal> ok, i'm going to try the editing of system scripts approach =P
[06:35] <talisein> gl
[06:35] <azureal> ty
[06:35] <azureal> bbl
[06:35] <Tamed_G> warbo I have an x800XL, is it the driver that Xorg refers to as ATi? or is that different?
[06:36] <domoking> bintut: do you think its because direct rendering isn't enabled?
[06:36] <vanessa> hello hello
[06:37] <talisein> !hello
[06:37] <vanessa> =))
[06:37] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:37] <vanessa> hehe
[06:37] <o0vapermonkey0o> maby you guys can help me over here winehq nada             trying to run winecfg but get a error
[06:37] <sproingie> huh, never thought i'd like the gorilla theme, but it's just right for me.  not too bright, not too dark
[06:37] <vanessa> may somebody help me with the usb browser?
[06:38] <talisein> usb... browser?
[06:38] <vanessa> umm ya?
[06:38] <vanessa> ;)
[06:38] <Warbo> Anyone know how to get rid of messages saying "Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync" in Evolution?
[06:38] <Warbo> Tamed_G: Your card seems far too new for radeon driver, sorry
[06:38] <vanessa> i uploaded music into a wrong place on my mobilephone
[06:38] <icelight> hey all. i cannt use jave in my  fedora5 now. i installed the jre 15.0_06 rpm and make ln to ~/mozilla/plugins but it dont works. anyone have a idea?
[06:38] <talisein> vanessa: ah.
[06:38] <DavidCraft> ok dumb question, whats the command to restart
[06:39] <DavidCraft> sudo shutdown -r isnt working
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> DavidCraft: sudo shutdown -r now
[06:39] <bulmer> hi, during a livecd run, the qparted have a true access to hard disk? i tried to change format of a partition but..it does not happen
[06:39] <Warbo> DavidCraft: "sudo restart"
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> DavidCraft: (or restart)
[06:39] <bulmer> sudo shutdown -r now
[06:39] <Tamed_G> warbo: ok thanks, I guess something must be worng if I'm only getting 760fps in GLXgears with that card then
[06:39] <DavidCraft> thx
[06:39] <talisein> when you plug in the phone, it doesn't automagically mount the drive?
[06:39] <icelight> hey all. i cannt use jave in my  fedora5 now. i installed the jre 15.0_06 rpm and make ln to ~/mozilla/plugins but it dont works. anyone have a idea?
[06:39] <cdcarter> hey all, im running a server with ubuntu, how can i setup some boot time scripts?
[06:40] <Warbo> plug in a 'phone? Bluetooth is the future!
[06:40] <vanessa> talisein, so i cant see them on my mobilephone but in the browser i can
[06:40] <vanessa> talisein, yes it does automatically
[06:40] <Warbo> icelight: #fedora might be able to offer more help
[06:40] <bulmer> cdcarter: like any linux i would think..scripts under /etc/init.d/
[06:40] <vanessa> talisein, the problem is
[06:40] <vanessa> talisein, that i cant delet them...
[06:40] <cdcarter> bulmer: yes, but i still need to register with the system, just putting them there doesnt  do it
[06:40] <vanessa> talisein, those i put into the wrong place
[06:40] <Warbo> vanessa: Do you have some kind of file manager on the phone?
[06:40] <vanessa> talisein,  i cant select the sounds
[06:41] <talisein> hmm
[06:41] <cdcarter> bulmer: atleast on deb, dunno for ubuntu
[06:41] <talisein> are you on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[06:41] <Warbo> cdcarter: "man update-rc.d"
[06:41] <cdcarter> cool
[06:41] <bulmer> cdcarted register? what do you mean?  i always thought /etc/init.d  are scripts called by init
[06:41] <vanessa> Wazm, on the phon? i got a cd from sony ericsson... but i dont like such manager ;) do they function on linux?
[06:41] <vanessa> talisein, ubuntu
[06:41] <DavidCraft> ok im trying to get this config ed quick.  I dont have time to read REALY long manuals and I don want to keep bugging all of you lol.  Im just a hard core windows learner trying to learn linex.  There any quick manuals I could crunch in say 30 min
[06:41] <DavidCraft> mainly liek how to set up apache and mysql and stuff
[06:42] <wthww|celeron> :D hey all
[06:42] <Warbo> bulmer: The scripts live in /etc/init.d, but they must be linked to by /etc/rcX.d (X=runlevel). update-rc.d handles these links
[06:42] <vanessa> hey wthww|celeron
[06:42] <vanessa> =((((( *unhappy*
[06:42] <talisein> vanessa: can you go to a command prompt and do a 'ls /media'?
[06:43] <bulmer> Warbo:  oh that ...yeah I wonder what is ubuntus equivalent of chkconfig to set it there
[06:43] <Shadowpillar> [CPU Temp]  30.0C/86.0F (fan: 3375 RPM)
[06:43] <Shadowpillar> it's actually 85
[06:43] <vanessa> vanessa@bebe:~$ ls /media/
[06:43] <vanessa> cdrom   cdrom1  cdrom3  cdrom5  cdrom7   windows
[06:43] <vanessa> cdrom0  cdrom2  cdrom4  cdrom6  usbdisk
[06:43] <vanessa> ?
[06:43] <Warbo> vanessa: I mean on my 'phone there is a "file manager" program that lets me look at the file on it. Even if I put a song in the wrong place, I could at least get to it in the file manager and delete it (the file manager is on the 'phone, just like the music player is, nothing to do with crappy Windows programs on a CD)
[06:43] <talisein> you don't have a usbdisk plugged in right?
[06:43] <wthww|celeron> im fairly happy :D have Dapper running an nothing but a mobo and a mini hard disk sitting in my basemet :D
[06:44] <Tamed_G> is this bad??? [fglrx]  Internal AGP support requested, but kernel AGP support  active.
[06:44] <talisein> try to cd into /media/usbdisk and see if its the phone
[06:44] <vanessa> Warbo, umm i dont know... wait i m going to look it up
[06:44] <Warbo> vanessa: Never mind. (For me I press the centre button on the phone then go on the little icon that looks like a folder)
[06:45] <bulmer> How does Ubuntu install process determines to pick my partition 8 for install? how do I change this to the  partition I wanted it installed?
[06:45] <talisein> Tamed_G: not really bad, as long as its using some sort of AGP interface
[06:45] <Tamed_G> ok thx
[06:45] <Warbo> bulmer: I always set up my partitions beforehand, then select the right ones for each mount point in the installer
[06:46] <bulmer> Warbo: how do you go about doing that? which selection on the installer you get a chance to choose which partition?
[06:46] <Warbo> bulmer: After choosing to set up partitions manually GParted comes up, it is the screen after that
[06:47] <Warbo> (on the graphical installer)
[06:47] <vanessa> Warbo, what is that manager called? i cant find any.... i got my music on the memory stick
[06:47] <deliverator> i was wondering if anybody has a workable solution for interfacing with an ipod
[06:47] <vanessa> talisein, .. i cant find the sony ericsson cd, have to ask my dad later, he may have the same =)
[06:48] <Warbo> vanessa: It is obviously different for each 'phone. Mine seems to have one but yours doesn't. Oh well (maybe if they all ran Linux.....)
[06:48] <bulmer> okay..am at the point where I select the disk..but it seems it choosed partition 8 ..wel there is the manually partition table
[06:48] <vanessa> mm
[06:48] <talisein> vanessa: cd /media/usbdisk and see if it is the phone
[06:48] <Warbo> bulmer: I alsways choose to do it manually anyway, so I am unfamiliar with any other options.....
[06:48] <vanessa> so i think i really need the sony ericsson manager ?
[06:49] <Celeste> hi
[06:49] <vanessa> talisein,  ah ok
[06:49] <vanessa> hello Celeste
[06:49] <Celeste> is there any native speaker who would like to control some english lines for me please?
[06:49] <bulmer> Warbo: under manually...how do you then tell the mount point ? seems to be no options for selecting the mount point
[06:49] <vanessa> Display all 2136 possibilities? (y or n)
[06:49] <vanessa> wtf
[06:50] <talisein> lol
[06:50] <wastrel> vanessa:  tab-completion
[06:50] <champ> ahahah
[06:50] <Warbo> bulmer: If I remember correctly, the mount point is a text entry box on the left and the partition is a dropdown menu on the right
[06:50] <vanessa> =)
[06:51] <talisein> ?
[06:51] <bulmer> Warbo: if I dont use the other partitions, do you know why it does not take a blank as mount point..I assume to use blank so it will have no entry on /etc/fstab
[06:52] <bulmer> but the system seems need to have a mount point
[06:52] <Warbo> bulmer: Try deselecting those partitions so that only the partitions you want to use are shown
[06:52] <vanessa> talisein, Warbo,... so i cant delet them in this ubuntu usb manager? i have to install the sony ericsson?
[06:52] <talisein> no
[06:52] <vanessa> mm
[06:52] <talisein> vanessa: i'm tryin to confirm if /media/usbdisk is your phone
[06:52] <vanessa> talisein, i do see the files in the manager.. but i cant really select them
[06:52] <vanessa> mmm
[06:53] <Warbo> vanessa: Sorry I must have written something I didn't mean. The file manager I was on about is part of the phone and has nothing to do with Ubuntu or Windows
[06:53] <talisein> do the files in /media/usbdisk/ look like your phone files?
[06:53] <vanessa> bash: /media/usbdisk: is a directory
[06:53] <Warbo> talisein: Maybe Places>Computer would be quicker?....
[06:53] <talisein> ls /media/usbdisk/
[06:54] <talisein> probably
[06:54] <talisein> if it shows up there
[06:54] <griffindodd> can anyone recommend an app for mounting CD images?
[06:54] <vanessa> h????????
[06:54] <Warbo> just that I don't want to give conflicting suggestions. I'll be quiet now :)
[06:54] <talisein> lol
[06:54] <vanessa> i suddenly can see them in my manager
[06:54] <Warbo> griffindodd: mount
[06:54] <talisein> can you delete them?
[06:54] <deliverator> hi, i need help interfacing with an ipod
[06:55] <vanessa> ya =))) i can select them now!!
[06:55] <talisein> hurray
[06:55] <vanessa> h??
[06:55] <vanessa> =)))))))))))))))))
[06:55] <Warbo> griffindodd: "sudo mount filename.iso mountpoint -o loop"
[06:55] <vanessa> what have we done?
[06:55] <griffindodd> thx warbo
[06:55] <vanessa> mm
[06:55] <soobnauce> im trying to install using the ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386   and when i boot and select Start and install Ubuntu..  my monitor goes to "Signal Out Of Range"  and i cant view anything.  ive tried the "Start ubuntu in safe graphics mode"  too
[06:55] <Warbo> empty the trash!
[06:55] <J-_> what port does ssh use, and what packages do i need on my server to use ssh?
[06:56] <bulmer> soobnauce: try to select vga which i have to get a displayable text
[06:56] <soobnauce> on the bottom?  ive tried that
[06:56] <vanessa> talisein, Warbo i just seen the files in places -> blabla.. there i couldnt select them but now i see them in the manager itselfe as well =)))
[06:56] <talisein> warbo is right, be sure to empty the trash can
[06:56] <soobnauce> well it comes up as that is the default
[06:56] <Warbo> OK, I'm going to bed for a couple of hours. Bye
[06:56] <talisein> goodnight
[06:57] <SurfnKid> later warbo
[06:57] <SurfnKid> isnt it just morning for him
[06:57] <vanessa> uh
[06:57] <talisein> ?
[06:57] <bulmer> soobnauce: thats how i did it ..choose vga and safe graphics mode
[06:57] <vanessa> warbo left =(
[06:57] <talisein> its okay, another lurking guru will wake up soon I'm sure ;)
[06:57] <vanessa> hihi
[06:58] <vanessa> talisein,
[06:58] <vanessa> =))))))
[06:58] <vanessa> *happy again*
[06:58] <talisein> lol
[06:58] <vanessa> they re deleted
[06:58] <vanessa> heh
[06:58] <vanessa> thank you =)))
[06:58] <talisein> yw
[06:58] <talisein> drag and drop to the right place now ;)
[06:58] <SurfnKid> anyone got the Beryl thingy going
[06:58] <soobnauce> hm let me try again
[06:59] <vanessa> talisein, ya i will =)))
[06:59] <talisein> SurfnKid: I have compiz on my edgy box, but I don't actually use it. too quirky on my ati card
[06:59] <bulmer> soobnause: i also have similar problem, i cant seem to get a higher resolution after installing it as vga mode
[06:59] <griffindodd> is there a shortcut to open a terminal window that is set to an open gnome window
[06:59] <ez3ki3l> hello
[07:00] <talisein> hello
[07:00] <SurfnKid> talisein, oh well at least ya got it running, is it any different than beryl? ive got compiz on this now but id like beryl, i see its much better at visual movement
[07:00] <ez3ki3l> I need all the following libs installed on the system... CLIB=-lplot -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lpng -lz -lm but i know only a few of them and how to install them
[07:01] <ez3ki3l> i have plot and math lib, so far, i think
[07:01] <talisein> I have beryl on a gentoo box, but its an nvidia card so I don't know how much that accounts for a difference. It seems like beryl is easier to administer though
[07:01] <ez3ki3l> can someone tell me if the other libs are installed by default
[07:01] <ez3ki3l> ?
[07:01] <ez3ki3l> or the names of them, that i might pull them down from apt-get
[07:01] <ez3ki3l> ?
[07:01] <SurfnKid> talisein, does it look like compiz? as far as the visuals go? or is it much better
[07:01] <talisein> ez3ki3l: its easier just to aptitude install libplot libxaw libxmu etc
[07:02] <ez3ki3l> ok
[07:02] <ez3ki3l> i'll do that
[07:02] <SurfnKid> I'd like to put beryl as a separate session
[07:02] <talisein> SurfnKid: its basically the same: a cube, wobbly windows, etc.
[07:02] <SurfnKid> ah
[07:02] <colder4545> ez3ki3l: i think that synaptic (system-admin-synaptic) has a feature that will list installed packages, and you can narrow to libraries
[07:02] <SurfnKid> i wonder if its a renamed project or a new oen
[07:02] <SurfnKid> s/oen/one
[07:02] <ez3ki3l> hmm
[07:02] <talisein> renamed
[07:02] <SurfnKid> thought so
[07:03] <talisein> beryl used to be compiz-quinnstorm, which was just a branch off of compiz
[07:03] <SurfnKid> ah
[07:03] <puff> colder4545: dpkg -l?
[07:03] <SurfnKid> i got a look at this other one named mandraka or something, is it a windows manager, gotta look that up
[07:04] <talisein> sounds like a different linux distribution, mandriva
[07:04] <colder4545> puff: i think that that lists all packages, unless he can narrow by name
[07:05] <SurfnKid> talisein, its probably not what im talking about, ill look up what i mean, its probably beryl or compiz, but i keep thinking its mandriva
[07:05] <Jbirk> Hi
[07:05] <Jbirk> I want to control the buttons in nautillus
[07:05] <Jbirk> with my  mouse
[07:05] <Jbirk> how can I edit imwheel
[07:05] <talisein> SurfnKid: it might be. they had a new release recently and I think they were touting its compositor features
[07:05] <Jbirk> to make my back button on the logitech mx500 be a back button in nautilus
[07:06] <frank_b> can anyone recomend me a set of tcp and udp ports alternative to the defaults, so that I can run two amule clients at the same time?
[07:06] <SurfnKid> yeah, could be, the windows minimized to a water substance like drop and got hidden in a corner
[07:06] <talisein> frank_b: any random port >1000 should be fine
[07:06] <SurfnKid> lookin up that link in video.google.com
[07:06] <frank_b> talisein, hmm, ok thanks
[07:06] <docmur> is it possible to merge 2 partitions using gparted
[07:07] <puff> Hm, I'm apt-ing ubuntu-docs, because I just spent the weekend hassling with trying to get the network fixed, with no docs because I couldn't get on the network.  What other docs should I install?
[07:07] <talisein> gah, troubleshooting without google? scary.
[07:08] <puff> colder4545: Idaknow the context, but "dpkg -l" will list all of the packages, "dpkg -l | fgrep -i somestring" will filter for a given string, "dpkg -L packagename" will list all files.
[07:08] <puff> I really want to rewrite/extend aptitude to keep track of who/what/when/why packages were installed.
[07:09] <puff> talisein: Troubleshooting without google is a cast-iron pain in the ass.
[07:09] <mikm[laptop] > Why?
[07:09] <mikm[laptop] > ethereal.  reason for installation: boredom
[07:09] <colder4545> puff, yeah, when i looked at the man file it looked like -l had to have an argument, i think your way works the quickest
[07:09] <talisein> puff: /var/log/aptsomething or dpkgsomething keeps track of stuff I think. but its not exactly  easy info to get to l
[07:09] <ez3ki3l> sudo apt-get install emacs   by far has been the easiest way to get emacs
[07:09] <ez3ki3l> OMG
[07:10] <ez3ki3l> ubuntu ruls!
[07:10] <talisein> apt rules.
[07:10] <vanessa> argh
[07:10] <vanessa> 7:10 am agai
[07:10] <wastrel> puff:  manpages-dev and other useful manpages packages, which aren't installed by default.
[07:10] <vanessa> again
[07:10] <wastrel> puff:  perl & python documentation
[07:10] <mikm[laptop] > bleh, emacs :p
[07:10] <vanessa> have to go to sleep
[07:10] <talisein> oO
[07:10] <knix> So... quick question. Is there a single video format Totem can actually play?
[07:10] <ez3ki3l> mmm... emacs ... my precious
[07:10] <talisein> nixternal: lol
[07:11] <puff> Yeah, logs and /etc/apt, etc, I want some way to a) log a comment as to why I'm installing some package, and log my userid (for use in multiuser environments) and log when something is installed as a dependency.
[07:11] <mikm[laptop] > knix It depends on what gstreamer plugins you have installed
[07:11] <talisein> knix: lol. I dunno. Actually, in Edgy totem was able to play an avi file!
[07:11] <nixternal> ey?
[07:11] <talisein> nixternal: sorry, mis-tab-completed
[07:11] <nixternal> hehe, i kinda figured ;) no problem
[07:12] <knix> mikm[laptop] : so out of the box.. nothing?
[07:12] <frank_b> is there a port for each number between 1 and 65535?
[07:12] <ez3ki3l> :-D
[07:12] <ez3ki3l> gaim ruls also
[07:12] <mikm[laptop] > knix more or less :)
[07:12] <SurfnKid> talisein, check this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2549719002538348148&q=beryl+compiz&hl=en
[07:12] <colder4545> frank_b, yes
[07:12] <talisein> frank_b: yes
[07:12] <wastrel> frank_b:  cat /etc/services
[07:12] <frank_b> colder4545, thanks
[07:12] <frank_b> ok, thanks
[07:13] <colder4545> is there an echo?
[07:13] <puff> hms at "p   asr-manpages - alt.sysadmin.recovery manual pages"
[07:13] <talisein> colder4545: yes
[07:13] <colder4545> darn sound card
[07:13] <talisein> ;)
[07:13] <SurfnKid> its a bit slow, no idea why, but i saw one yesterday just like it, im wondering what kind of WM should i use, or if its the beryl one,  I've got compiz installed here, i wonder
[07:13] <talisein> SurfnKid: yeah, beryl makes it easier to actually set up images in the cube and stuff.
[07:13] <jjlowing> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2549719002538348148&q=beryl
[07:13] <jjlowing>            +compiz&hl=en
[07:13] <jjlowing> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2549719002538348148&q=beryl
[07:13] <jjlowing>            +compiz&hl=en
[07:13] <jjlowing> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2549719002538348148&q=beryl
[07:13] <jjlowing>            +compiz&hl=en
[07:14] <Gumby> wow, you'd figure once would be enough
[07:14] <puff> Hm, perl server pages, inteeeeresting.
[07:14] <knix> mikm[laptop] : And I'm guessing it doesn't read the gstreamer .8 plugins
[07:14] <talisein> SurfnKid: as long as you're playing around, try everything. Then you can be our resident expert  ;)
[07:14] <SurfnKid> haha
[07:14] <talisein> knix: I imagine it would if gstreamer 0.8 is set to be the default gstreamer
[07:15] <knix> talisein: but half of them are .8 and half are .10 =/
[07:15] <talisein> knix: mwuahaha.
[07:15] <talisein> knix: I think the totem in edgy actually works well. Until then, mplayer..
[07:15] <puff> I just did a dist-upgrade, two actually, hoary->breezy->dapper.  On the old version I had various extra installed form metaverse and elsewhere, mostly for media formats.  How would I check on whether these need upgrading?
[07:15] <SurfnKid> well as long as quinn doesnt change or modify any more code that breaks my setup then im good! last time i was in the middle of a work project and the programmer broke compiz! oh hell! anyway think im gonna try to install beryl
[07:15] <knix> talisein: yea, that's what I'm sticking to :P
[07:16] <meheren> is there a way to tell the terminal to wait about 4 hours then execute the command?
[07:16] <puff> What's this beryl video about?
[07:16] <talisein> puff: try to play your old music/video files. That's how i'd do it ;)
[07:16] <puff> I guess video still works...
[07:16] <puff> Is there sound in this beryl video?
[07:16] <wastrel> meheren:  man at
[07:16] <mikm[laptop] > meheren sleep 4h && command
[07:16] <wastrel> or that
[07:16] <meheren> mikm[laptop]  thx so much :)
[07:16] <talisein> SurfnKid: beryl-manager is set up so that when beryl crashes it gives you back metacity
[07:17] <mikm[laptop] > meheren np :)
[07:17] <ThE__CroW_> Ekushey: is there a way i can mount my second internal hdd, it was formated ntfs from when i had windows xp installed on the system and i have files on there i need access to
[07:17] <ThE__CroW_> hey*
[07:17] <talisein> SurfnKid: and its just a click to go into metacity mode for when you are seriously working, just to be sure
[07:17] <wastrel> !ntfs
[07:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:17] <SurfnKid> oh cool
[07:17] <puff> So is beryl stable at all?
[07:17] <SurfnKid> well i always just ran compiz-start to get it going again, never fails
[07:17] <puff> this looks like it'd be fun eye-candy to have on my machine.
[07:18] <talisein> Its as stable as any compositor I guess............ ;)
[07:18] <SurfnKid> gives me back compiz at 100%
[07:18] <colder4545> the_crow: fuse is the package you are looking for, google for some tutorials about it
[07:18] <bawnpa_> i'm using beryl, no problems with it for me as long as i stay away from the water plugins
[07:18] <talisein> yeah, I've heard bad things about the water plugin
[07:19] <SurfnKid> talisein, you know how you can set up compiz 2 ways right,  method A or B, I'd like to setup Beryl so its a separate session, that would be great
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> beryl used to work fine for me with compiz vanilla
[07:19] <bawnpa_> if I use any of the water plugins, even after the effects have stopped my session grinds to a halt and i have to restart X
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> errrr
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> WATER used to work fine for me with compiz vanilla
[07:19] <bawnpa_> yeah same
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> I dunno how to make it happen in beryl exactly...
[07:19] <SurfnKid> bawnpa_, hey could you set up beryl to the default gnome session or a separate one
[07:19] <talisein> SurfnKid: lol, I just apt'd compiz and did compiz --replace on edgy. ;)
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> and I miss it :(
[07:19] <SurfnKid> ah heh
[07:19] <bawnpa_> huh?
[07:20] <BHSPitLappy> I'm in a situation, and I dunno what to do.
[07:20] <BHSPitLappy> I need to switch browsers
[07:20] <SurfnKid> bawnpa_, have ya ever set up compiz?
[07:20] <BHSPitLappy> but I'm so used to firefox
[07:20] <bawnpa_> if you use the beryl manager you can set metacity as the default window manager
[07:20] <BHSPitLappy> it'll be hard
[07:20] <bawnpa_> compiz, not on ubuntu, i  only followed the beryl guide on their forums
[07:20] <thehil> does anyone know how to solve breadth first search problems?
[07:20] <bawnpa_> so i havent had vanilla compiz
[07:21] <SurfnKid> this is what id like to do,  have a log in with 3 things (1. Default Gnome Session, 2. Xgl-Compiz, 3. Berryl )  could you do that?
[07:21] <talisein> sorry, only 2nd year CS student
[07:21] <seeker2599> im trying to install adobe flash player 7 on here and im not sure how to do it, do i download the .tar.gz file?
[07:21] <puff> Hm, mp3 player works fine, but google videos don't have any sound.
[07:21] <wastrel> !flash
[07:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:21] <talisein> SurfnKid: er, it'd be tricky because you'd be switching between XGL-server and x-server
[07:22] <bawnpa_> well hmm,  sounds like what you need to do is look up how to edit the gdm configuration to let you choose between an X server or an Xgl server
[07:22] <wastrel> puff:  check the flash troubleshooting section in the restrictedformats wiki page (link above)
[07:22] <bawnpa_> i need to examine doing that soon here too so i can play some games since they don't run proper in the Xgl server
[07:22] <SurfnKid> well right yeah, which is what id like, so in case xgl-server breaks for good and i cant fix it for weeks, i could always go back to x-server type sesion by just logging out and logginb ack in
[07:23] <talisein> i found the solution to gaming in linux: buy a console. ;)
[07:23] <DavidCraft> how do I gain permission to copy something into a protected file from the ubuntu gui browser
[07:23] <DavidCraft> ?
[07:24] <mnepton> DavidCraft: gksudo nautilus ~/
[07:24] <ThE__CroW_> !fuse
[07:24] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:24] <DavidCraft> ok... is there seriously a reason to block you out of every possible area of the functional system other then /home/username ?  its getting rather annoying entering in the same password a billion and one times lol
[07:25] <globe> is there a way to fix a stubborn boot-time kernel panic?
[07:25] <mnepton> DavidCraft: yes, it is. look at Windows security record, allowing someone to login as an Admin and do whatever they please.
[07:25] <talisein> DavidCraft: *nix design philosophy, keeps you safe
[07:25] <wastrel> DavidCraft:  why do you need to mess around outside your homedir so much?
[07:25] <talisein> plus there's rarely any need to mess around.
[07:26] <bawnpa_> well SurfnKid what you could do, is login as a user at one of the consoles (ctrl alt F2 for instance) and type startx -- :1
[07:26] <DavidCraft> cuz im setting up all the servises im running on teh server
[07:26] <wastrel> well that's a good reason
[07:26] <SurfnKid> i see
[07:26] <bawnpa_> that starts the regular X server with your default session afaik, if you've installed beryl according to the beryl guide
[07:26] <SurfnKid> cool
[07:27] <wastrel> sudo on the command line has a 15 minute grace period, so you don't need to type your password so often.
[07:27] <DavidCraft> im just a window user that trying to FINALY convert lol
[07:27] <colder4545> davidcraft sudo xterm
[07:27] <bawnpa_> i just tried that and was able to load my game that wont work in XGL
[07:27] <talisein> DavidCraft: you could sudo gedit, then open all your /etc/ files through the privledged gedit
[07:27] <seeker2599> what do i download? .tar.bz2 , .tar.bz2.sig , .tar.gz , or .tar.gz.sig
[07:27] <bawnpa_> your milellage may vary i guess
[07:27] <talisein> seeker2599: .tar.bz2
[07:27] <seeker2599> ty
[07:27] <puff> wastrel: looks like flash-plugin has been held back, probably because I lost universe and multiverse somewhere along the line.
[07:27] <SurfnKid> bawnpa_, so youd have 2 gui sessions then?
[07:27] <talisein> seeker2599: and use "tar -jxvf filename" to unpack
[07:29] <seeker2599> wheres that?
[07:29] <ianm_> DavidCraft: can always run a shell using 'sudo'
[07:29] <puff> wastrel: Okay, so re-running dist-upgrade with universe and multiverse added, now it wants to upgrade gstreamer, flashplayer, mozilla, etc.
[07:29] <bawnpa_> yeah if you had one going already when you typed that command
[07:29] <SurfnKid> wicked
[07:29] <bawnpa_> the default gdm session runs on display 0
[07:29] <wastrel> yay!
[07:29] <seeker2599> on the console?
[07:29] <DavidCraft> lol yah i know that.  im too used to gui.  I know its sad. >_>
[07:29] <talisein> seeker2599: command line. nautilus' built in extractor will probably work too ;)
[07:29] <seeker2599> ok
[07:29] <bawnpa_> startx -- :1 will put a new X session on display 1
[07:29] <SurfnKid> i guess you could run a few and see how many it handles
[07:29] <SurfnKid> but it wont be XGL, itll be X
[07:29] <bawnpa_> should be, from what i could tell
[07:29] <seeker2599> what is the default root password to ubuntu
[07:29] <SurfnKid> neat ill give it a shot
[07:29] <SurfnKid> learned somethin new hehe thanx bro
[07:29] <talisein> by default root has no password (you can't log into root)
[07:29] <talisein> !root
[07:29] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:30] <seeker2599> ty once again
[07:30] <talisein> np
[07:30] <seeker2599> im a major linux noob
[07:30] <talisein> we all were once :)
[07:30] <wastrel> i wasn't
[07:31] <griffindodd> man, how can I just log in as root?
[07:31] <globe> is there a way to fix a stubborn boot-time kernel panic (reiser corrupted?)?
[07:31] <griffindodd> this sudo thing is killing me
[07:31] <talisein> and when we came to ubuntu we all asked why do we need to use sudo ;)
[07:31] <bawnpa_> sudo -i if you need to work as root
[07:31] <griffindodd> nice
[07:31] <griffindodd> thx
[07:31] <talisein> griffindodd:  or even "worse" sudo passwd and set a root password
[07:32] <Jbirk> How do I add the gaim icon back to the pannel?
[07:32] <puff> hm, should i use aac support for my ipod?
[07:32] <Jbirk> I accedentally removed the gaim icon for the gnome pannel
[07:32] <Jbirk> help
[07:32] <talisein> globe: ummmm. maybe, but not by mortal means. use a boot disk and try to recover that wya
[07:32] <bawnpa_> no reason to have a root password set when you can use sudo -i,  i dont recommend doing that
[07:33] <colder4545> jbirk: right click, add to, panel, application, type in gaim
[07:33] <bimberi_> hold-click it in the apps menu and drag it to the panel
[07:34] <SurfnKid> i was a major linux newb
[07:34] <seeker2599> does sudo come installed with ubuntu and where is it found?
[07:34] <SurfnKid> till i went back to winblowz an said, gosh i feel like a true linux geek now
[07:34] <SurfnKid> hehe
[07:34] <globe> talisein: I am running the live cd to get here ... how do I fix it, or do I haveto reinstall?
[07:34] <wastrel> seeker2599:  which sudo
[07:34] <seeker2599> for root stuff
[07:34] <mnepton> seeker2599: /usr/bin/sudo
[07:34] <talisein> globe: hmm. first of all, do you have a seperate /boot partition or no?
[07:35] <seeker2599> ok
[07:35] <griffindodd> bahh, my head hurts - can I log in to gnome as root?
[07:35] <bimberi_> seeker2599: yes it is installed, and wastrel was giving you a command to run :)
[07:35] <bawnpa_> sudo lets you run a command as root.  if you want to login as root, there are instructions on the page ubotu mentioned.
[07:35] <globe> talisein: nope.  I am not too worried abotu file loss though.  Its just a pain
[07:35] <Jbirk> Got it
[07:35] <Jbirk> I had to add the notification area back
[07:35] <bawnpa_> you don't want to log into gnome as root, all the menus ubuntu comes with are set to use gksudo i believe
[07:35] <bawnpa_> theres no reason for it then
[07:35] <talisein> globe: I'd try to chroot to where your / is, and aptitude reinstall
[07:36] <bimberi_> Jbirk: ah, _that_ gaim icon :)
[07:36] <talisein> aptitude reinstall the kernel, that is.
[07:37] <globe> hmm.  okay.  how do I do an aptitude reinstall 'apt-get reinstall *'?
[07:37] <seeker2599> whats the command to unpack the .tar.bz file i downloaded ?
[07:37] <rredd4> what command do i type to mount ntfs volume that is on my laptop, over a network.  i have a username and no password.  I am on my desktop now
[07:37] <talisein> globe: or maybe run fsck.reiserfs on the parititon
[07:37] <talisein> globe no
 bintut: do you think its because direct ==> yes, you have to enable the module dri
[07:37] <mnepton> Reiser. *shudder*
[07:37] <Jbirk> does netgear wm311v3 work?
[07:37] <pavel__> hello
[07:38] <bawnpa_> seeker2599, you can either use tar, or a combination of bunzip2 and tar
[07:38] <talisein> globe: "aptitude reinstall linux-source"
[07:38] <globe> talisein: okay.
[07:38] <bawnpa_> for example, bunzip2 filename.tar.bz, then tar -xvf filename.tar
[07:38] <pavel__> i'm trying to install nvidia drivers on HP Pavilion dv6000 but faililng miserably?
[07:38] <DavidCraft> where is mysql located so that one could install it?
[07:39] <pavel__> Anyone has any pointers
[07:39] <mnepton> DavidCraft: in the apt repositories
[07:39] <bawnpa_> should be in synaptic package manager, under the system menu
[07:39] <ArrenLex> pavel: delete the /etc/make_nvidia_fail_miserably file.
[07:39] <talisein> DavidCraft: "sudo aptitude install mysql-server"
[07:39] <DavidCraft> right, i cant find them, where are they located
[07:39] <pavel__> :)
[07:40] <ArrenLex> pavel: but really. "failing miserably" is a hard thing to troubleshoot. Be more specific!
[07:40] <DavidCraft> oh, thx Telroth|Sigh
[07:40] <griffindodd> hrm, still having mount problems. I created a dir at mnt/iso but when I execute the mount command to that mount point nothing seems to happen?
[07:40] <DavidCraft> * talisein
[07:40] <talisein> :)
[07:40] <ArrenLex> :)
[07:40] <talisein> globe: how's it going?
[07:40] <pavel__> X says it can't init the driver
[07:40] <ArrenLex> The binary blob nvidia driver?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> !nvidia
[07:41] <pavel__> ya the one from apt
[07:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Have you tried following these instructions?
[07:41] <seeker2599> how do i navigate to the desktop using the terminal
[07:41] <pavel__> yup
[07:41] <talisein> seeker2599: cd ~/Desktop
[07:41] <mikm[laptop] > seeker2599 cd ~/Desktop
[07:41] <seeker2599> ty
[07:41] <mikm[laptop] > bah :p
[07:41] <rredd4> is this right?  mount -t ntfs //computerid/sharename -o username        to mount a ntfs volume over my home network?
[07:41] <seeker2599> cd desktop didnt work lol
[07:41] <globe> talisein: I cant get my hd mounted ...
[07:42] <ArrenLex> pavel: you have restricted modules installed? You are running dapper? You are running a 2.6 kernel? You are running a 32-bit intel machine?
[07:42] <talisein> rredd4: no :( you need samba. To to Places -> Connect to server... and then see if "Windows share" is on the clickable list
[07:42] <pavel__> yes yes 64
[07:42] <talisein> globe: try to fsck.reiserfs /dev/whateveryourscreweduphardriveis
[07:42] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[07:42] <talisein> unmounted
[07:43] <ArrenLex> pavel: never tried to get it to work on a 64-bit machine. Can you give me more detail about the error? Perhaps pastebin a /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[07:43] <vanessa> good night everybody
[07:43] <rredd4> talisein  its not a sever, just my laptop hard drive which is file shared
[07:43] <pavel__> one sec let me take a look
[07:43] <talisein> if your computer is sharing a directory, its acting as a server
[07:43] <rredd4> ok
[07:43] <fluvvell> are there any scripts for xchat that allow one to follow a thread being discussed with a user?
[07:43] <globe> talisein: ok.
[07:44] <seeker2599> ok, i just extracted my .tar.gz2 file now how do i install it
[07:44] <bawnpa_> follow a thread?
[07:44] <talisein> seeker2599: what are you installing?
[07:44] <seeker2599> gnash
[07:44] <seeker2599> flash substitute
[07:44] <talisein> adventersome
[07:45] <rredd4> talisein  windows share is there...
[07:45] <ArrenLex> seeker: you are warned that gnash is not of interest for anyone but developers ATM.
[07:45] <talisein> rredd4: ok, click through that and try to connect that way :)
[07:45] <seeker2599> what should i use then
[07:45] <pavel__> ArrenLex: all it says is failed to initalizy NVIDIA graphics device
[07:45] <ArrenLex> seeker: For flash? Macromedia Flash 7.
[07:45] <bawnpa_> its possible to play flv files with mplayer too
[07:45] <ArrenLex> pavel: can you show me the xlog?
[07:45] <bawnpa_> that is what i use
[07:45] <ArrenLex> bawnpa: yes, but only older flv files.
[07:46] <rredd4> talisein  the name of my server is the computer name?
[07:46] <talisein> rredd4: yeah. like, //computerid
[07:46] <seeker2599> whoa when did adobe buy macromedia?
[07:46] <globe> talisein: is it okay to rebuild-tree?
[07:46] <talisein> but just computerid
[07:46] <ArrenLex> seeker: a while ago. xD
[07:46] <pavel__> how can I do that from irssi?
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Not that it matters to us. Our version is still called Macromedia Flash Player 7.
[07:46] <seeker2599> wow
[07:46] <talisein> globe: who knows, reiserfs is wonky. I'd say yes. ;)
[07:47] <seeker2599> i need to read the tech news more oftern
[07:47] <talisein> globe: you said its not imperitive to save files right?
[07:47] <ArrenLex> ReiserFS will divorce and then murder your files.
[07:47] <ArrenLex> It's true.
[07:47] <globe> talisein: not many files on there...
[07:47] <talisein> ArrenLex: ooo, a little over th eline..\
[07:47] <talisein> globe: then go for it =)
[07:48] <globe> talisein: can a corrupt fs cause a kernel panic?
[07:49] <talisein> yes, if the corrupted part is the kernel
[07:49] <daveyj> is there a definitive guide to nvidia/xgl/beryl? fresh kubuntu install
[07:49] <daveyj> lol
[07:49] <daveyj> davey :)
[07:49] <pavel__> ArrenLex: www.dudrenov.com/Xorg.0.log.old
[07:49] <talisein> daveyj: definitive? not really. On the ubuntu edgy forums there is a sort of recent one Ithink
[07:50] <Somebody_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMqWUBpbx18
[07:50] <daveyj> it works with dapper?
[07:50] <seeker2599> what is the command to extract a .tar.gz file?
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Odd. How about your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, pavel?
[07:50] <ArrenLex> seeker: tar xzf <file.tar.gz>
[07:50] <talisein> daveyj: since I think it requires external repositories anyways, maybe
[07:50] <pavel__> one sec
[07:50] <pavel__> i changed the driver to vesa on that one
[07:50] <talisein> daveyj: beryl is so beta though you might as well just hop up to edgy anwyays
[07:51] <daveyj> hehe
[07:51] <daveyj> i was running beryl on my last ubuntu install
[07:51] <talisein> see, you should be telling us how to use beryl
[07:51] <puff> Is it just an apt install?
[07:51] <puff> Hm, nope.
[07:51] <talisein> puff: what?
[07:51] <daveyj> well i originally had compiz.. then i removed it and installed beryl and everything worked
[07:52] <puff> talisein: beryl.
[07:52] <talisein> puff: oh. no, i think you need to add a repository. its on the forums.
[07:52] <ubuntu> hey guys can someone help me
[07:52] <seeker2599> how do you guys remember all of these commands?
[07:52] <ArrenLex> seeker: how do you remember all of these words in the English language? Just practice.
[07:52] <ArrenLex> You remember what you need to get by.
[07:52] <talisein> seeker2599: I've been using linux for like 12 years
[07:53] <seeker2599> in need a linux dictionary
[07:53] <pavel__> ArrenLex: www.dudrenov.com/xorg.conf
[07:53] <ArrenLex> seeker: lots of those! Just google for beginner guides or command references. :)
[07:53] <ubuntu> whole room: can you change the OS boot order from an ubuntu live cd??
[07:53] <jimi> anyone have any luck getting an ATI card to work??
[07:53] <seeker2599> linux for dummys
[07:53] <talisein> ubuntu: edit /boot/grub/grub.conf or /boot/grub.conf
[07:53] <mikm[laptop] > ubuntu OS boot order?
[07:53] <ArrenLex> That's a very, very odd file, pavel. How did you end up with it?
[07:53] <ArrenLex> !tell jimi about anyone
[07:54] <talisein> !tell talisein about anyone
[07:54] <pavel__> meaning?
[07:54] <daveyj> hrmmmm
[07:54] <ArrenLex> pavel: how did you get this file? What utility generated it?
[07:54] <pavel__> I was hacking it a bit trying to change stuff
[07:54] <daveyj> how the hell did i get this working last time?!
[07:54] <ubuntu> mikm[laptop] : yes im sorry. i want to boot up from XP when the computer starts instead of ubuntu. my ubuntu partition got deleted
[07:54] <wastrel> /msg ubotu anyone
[07:54] <ubuntu> so the computer wont start up
[07:55] <Ademan> what package does cairo come in?
[07:55] <Ademan> !cairo
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cairo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <ArrenLex> !libcairo
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libcairo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <ArrenLex> !find libcairo
[07:55] <ubotu> Found: libcairo2, libcairo2-dev, libcairo2-doc, libcairo-java, libcairo-ocaml (and 2 others)
[07:55] <Ademan> ah, sweet thanks
[07:55] <ArrenLex> :)
[07:55] <Ademan> :-)
[07:55] <wastrel> ArrenLex:  apt-cache search cairo
[07:55] <Geldon> anyone here familiar with 6.10 and compiz?
[07:55] <ArrenLex> I know. But that works for me; I was telling him.
[07:55] <wastrel> er, ademan
[07:55] <Ademan> Geldon: use beryl not compiz
[07:55] <talisein> what is with the compiz questions tonight.
[07:56] <Ademan> Beryl > compiz
[07:56] <jimi> and what is compiz BTW?
[07:56] <pavel__> the vesa part I added because no other driver will work
[07:56] <talisein> !compiz
[07:56] <wastrel> fancy gui
[07:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:56] <Geldon> i think i screwed myself... i need to figure out how to undo what i did
[07:56] <ArrenLex> pavel: please do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to completely recreate that file. It's not going to work as is. Make sure to pick "nvidia" driver.
[07:56] <Ademan> jimi: a compositioning window manager
[07:56] <talisein> of course compositing means nothing to people who ask ;)
[07:56] <puff> how hard/risky is it to install beryl to play with but switch back to something more stable?
[07:56] <pavel__> I'll give it a shot
[07:57] <Ademan> anyone happen to know how librsvg (i assume it renders svg) compares to libcairo as far as speed
[07:57] <seeker2599> are there hotkeys to switch between workspaces?
[07:57] <talisein> puff: beryl-manager lets you set metacity (the default gnome-window manager) as the default window manager.... so pretty safe. I guess.
[07:57] <mikm[laptop] > seeker2599 ctrl alt left / right
[07:57] <Ademan> puff: easy as hell, at the login screen you choose what type of session you want "Default Gnome session" "kde session" or things like "Gnome fluxbox session" etc
[07:57] <seeker2599> there we go much easyer
[07:57] <Cas> I've a problem dist-upgrading, I can't remove xinit because I've unmet dependencies with x11-common, but I can't install x11-common because xinit owns some files. Does anyone has an idea how to fix this?
[07:58] <Geldon> i followed the directions at http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-edgy/ on how to install compiz and get it working on 6.10, upon running compiz, it killed my window manager (I am getting window contents, no boarders tho)... but now when I restart my window manager (or even the computer) I get nothing, it apparently is trying to start up compiz and dying that miserable death
[07:58] <talisein> Cas: try using aptitude dist-upgrade instead of apt-get
[07:58] <Geldon> any suggestion how to have it not load compiz on startup?
[07:59] <J-_> What's the easiest html editor to use? anything like frontpage for M$ for linux?
[07:59] <ArrenLex> J-: I know of nvu and quanta.
[07:59] <J-_> thanks
[08:00] <Cas> talisein: tnx, going to try it. aptitude once messed up some things with me, but I guess I don't have a choice now
[08:00] <talisein> Geldon: when you get those windows without borders, try starting a terminal if you can and run metacity --replace. As for X not starting, read your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see why its failing
[08:00] <ArrenLex> Cas: you can do it manually if you want.
[08:01] <Cas> ArrenLex: how, I tried to mv the file away but that doesn't seem to matter
[08:01] <talisein> Cas: just read what the "solution" is and see if it makes sense
[08:01] <ArrenLex> Cas: If you want to, do it manually: run this: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common*.deb
[08:01] <rredd4> does ntfs clone compress mu ntfs filesystem or leave it the same size, which is 26.2GB's.  How do I copy the cloned info back to the ntfs volume?
[08:01] <rredd4> mu= my
[08:01] <seeker2599> i just got a note after installing flash7 that says Note: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser. do i need to do that? will something go wrong if i dont
[08:01] <ArrenLex> Cas: warning: this will overwrite files.
[08:01] <Geldon> X is starting fine... not sure how to run a terminal without having any toolbars etc (is there a hotkey?)... I can obviously get a terminal through alt-ctrl-F1
[08:02] <ArrenLex> seeker: how did you install flash?
[08:02] <Cas> ArrenLex. talisein: tnx for the help, I'm firt going to play with aptitude a little and see if it has a logic solution otherwise I try the hard way
[08:02] <seeker2599> i ran the install file in the terminal
[08:02] <Cas> ArrenLex: I understand thanks for the warning
[08:02] <ArrenLex> Cas: aptitude is a better solution, if it can solve the problem. My way is rough.
[08:02] <J-_> nvu si what i'm looking for =D (time to learn some html)
[08:03] <ArrenLex> Good luck, J :)
[08:03] <ice_1963> aptitude with Blackbot yes :)
[08:03] <seeker2599> can i just leave it or should i remove it
[08:03] <glob> whoever it was that helped me recover my reiser fs .... thanks a ton!
[08:04] <talisein> glob: it worked? sweet.
[08:04] <glob> talisein: yes.  I had to reboot and such, but no more kernel panic :-D
[08:04] <talisein> glob: next linux install, set aside 50 Mb for /boot and use ext2 on it
[08:04] <glob> only 50 mb?
[08:04] <talisein> yeah
[08:04] <ArrenLex> seeker: I've never heard of this file. I think, if flash runs, you should leave it. Can you tell me why you didn't just browse to a flash site and have Firefox install it automagically?
[08:04] <talisein> every so often you'll have to clean out old versions, but not really often
[08:04] <J-_> just got the server working, now it's the code..
[08:05] <glob> okay.  Thanks again.
[08:05] <seeker2599> it wouldnt install automaticly
[08:05] <ArrenLex> Why?
[08:05] <seeker2599> i dunno
[08:05] <ArrenLex> Did it give you an error?
[08:05] <wastrel> is the packaged flashplayer not flash 7 ?
[08:06] <talisein> wastrel: afaik its the same version as macromedia's
[08:06] <ice_1963> when will ubuntu release Gnome-16?
[08:06] <talisein> ice_1963: it is in Edgy
[08:06] <seeker2599> it said it couldnt install automaticly and that it was recommended that i install manually
[08:06] <talisein> !edgy
[08:06] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:07] <talisein> !schedule
[08:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:07] <ArrenLex> seeker: actually, they're right; how about apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree?
[08:07] <ArrenLex> Sorry, that's flashplugin-nonfree *
[08:07] <talisein> it doesn't work if they don't have multiverse of course
[08:07] <seeker2599> well it works
[08:08] <seeker2599> i dunno if i did it right but it works so im happy
[08:08] <Geldon> well, i managed to "fix" the problem my using apt-get to get rid of compiz :-P
[08:08] <ice_1963> talisein: when is Edgy getting released ?
[08:08] <Lurch21> I Just installed a ipw2200 firmware last night then installed network manager. Last night i was wpa connected and up and running now i cant connect can anyone help me.
[08:08] <Cas> ice_1963: 26 oct
[08:08] <talisein> ice_1963: this month sometime
[08:09] <ice_1963> talisein: ok
[08:11] <Lurch21> When i deactivate my wirless device then my computer shows a signal.
[08:11] <talisein> i hate wireless =(
[08:11] <Lurch21> But i can't connect
[08:12] <seeker2599> ok java didnt automatily install either which one do i download?
[08:12] <talisein> you've reset the AP?
[08:12] <seeker2599> god i cant spell
[08:12] <Lurch21> AP?
[08:12] <talisein> seeker2599: how important is freedom to you?
[08:13] <talisein> Lurch21: access point. wireless router.
[08:13] <wastrel> considering he just installed flashplayer
[08:13] <talisein> lol
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: Access point
[08:13] <seeker2599> i just want to play java games
[08:13] <talisein> seeker2599: sun-java5-bin .. or -jdk or -jre. i dunno how that java stuff works, I just isntall it all
[08:14] <Lurch21> talisein: I unpluged then restarted it like i half to do some times.
[08:14] <DigitalNinja> is there a tool for configuring X?
[08:14] <talisein> Lurch21: ok
[08:14] <ArrenLex> seeker: you need to install sun-java5-plugin.
[08:14] <ice_1963> seeker2599: well install java then
[08:14] <puff> Hm, how do you pick a /dev/foo to mount your ipod on?
[08:14] <wastrel> DigitalNinja:  sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:14] <talisein> Lurch21: I don't know how networkmanager works. I don't have wireless. sorry
[08:14] <seeker2599> is .bin a compressed file?
[08:15] <DigitalNinja> wastrel: What does that do?
[08:15] <ArrenLex> seeker: why not just apt-get install sun-java5-plugin? Really?
[08:15] <wastrel> seeker2599:  file file.bin
[08:15] <puff> I was using /dev/sda2, but I think I screwed up and created an ipod filesystem on a drive on /dev/sda2.
[08:15] <puff> So how do I choose a different /dev?
[08:15] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: can you help me with this wireless problem
[08:15] <wastrel> DigitalNinja:  it makes a backup of your current xorg.conf  and runs thru a configurator for your xorg.conf
[08:15] <wastrel> make a manual backup anyway
[08:15] <seeker2599> whats that ArrenLex?
[08:15] <ArrenLex> The java plugin you need to play games.
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: mebbe - what's the deal?
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Plus the runtimes you need to run java.
[08:15] <ArrenLex> !sun-java5-plugin
[08:15] <seeker2599> where do i get it
[08:16] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[08:16] <ArrenLex> seeker: from the multiverse repository.
[08:16] <seeker2599> ok im a noob so whers that?
[08:16] <seeker2599> wheres8
[08:16] <seeker2599> **
[08:16] <talisein> !multiverse
[08:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:16] <ArrenLex> seeker: how do you prefer installing packages? Synaptic? Command-line?
[08:16] <seeker2599> command
[08:17] <ArrenLex> seeker: then edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file using sudo and add this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[08:17] <DigitalNinja> wastrel: What about screen resolution? How do you change that?
[08:18] <wastrel> DigitalNinja:  system > preferences > screen resolution
[08:18] <ArrenLex> seeker: then save that file, close it, run apt-get update, then apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[08:18] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: Last night i worked installed ipw2200 firmware. Then installed Network Manager restarted my computer and connected wpa wirelessly. Today when my wireless device is deactivated that the only time i get a signal.
[08:18] <seeker2599> ok
[08:18] <wastrel> as long as there are appropriate resolutions defined in your xorg.conf
[08:18] <DigitalNinja> wastrel: Thanks! I've been using Ubuntu for a few months now and I never new that was there
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: What do you mean by "i worked installed ipw2200 firmware" exactly?
[08:20] <J-_> what's a good/easy to use ftp server?
[08:21] <ZeroCool> its late ..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[08:21] <ArrenLex> J: check out proftpd
[08:21] <J-_> thanks again!
[08:21] <wastrel> i hope zerocool's nick is ironic
[08:21] <Lurch21> Tonyyarusso:I installed everything every thing to get my wireless driver working last night. I could connect wirelessly using Network manager now i can't
[08:22] <Lurch21> Tonyyarusso: er: just one everything
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: Well, I'm slightly confused since ipw2200 works out of the box generally, and all you'd need to add is wpa support,
[08:23] <Lurch21> Tonyyarusso: ipw2200 firmware and network manager is wpa support.
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: Right, so what did you do other than "apt-get install network-manager", or was that all?
[08:25] <citrus> where is the grub config file located?
[08:25] <citrus> in /etc/... somewhere i presume
[08:25] <citrus> but where is it specificaly?
[08:25] <talisein> citrus: /boot/grub.conf or /boot/grub/grub.con
[08:25] <talisein> citrus: /boot/grub.conf or /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:25] <citrus> ah
[08:25] <citrus> unlike lilo
[08:25] <talisein> its a sneaky one
[08:25] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: After i did apt-get install network-manager i restarted then every thing worked.
[08:26] <talisein> acutally I guess its menu.lst
[08:26] <citrus> yea
[08:26] <citrus> thanks
[08:26] <talisein> np
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: Okay.  And things just stopped working when?
[08:27] <citrus> does it require the "grub" command after the menu.lst is edited to save the changes?
[08:28] <berent> i have a vcd which has .dat file
[08:28] <berent> but xine cannot play this
[08:28] <berent> why?
[08:28] <wastrel> citrus:  no
[08:28] <ArrenLex> berent: what's the output of "file <file.dat>"?
[08:28] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way to do an auto install
[08:29] <citrus> kool
[08:29] <Kubuntu1234> Anyone has successfully manged to get BOTH suspend-to-disk (i.e. hibernate) AND suspend-to-ram (i.e. Suspend) working on Ubuntu?
[08:29] <volvoguy> howdy folks, quick question. i need to build a server this week (before friday). it's not super critical, but used often. would you recommend dapper still or go with edgy this close to the release?
[08:30] <berent> arrenlex : avseq02.dat: ERROR: cannot read `avseq02.dat' (Input/output error)
[08:30] <ArrenLex> volvoguy: for a server? I would go for the stable distribution for a server.
[08:30] <ArrenLex> o_O
[08:30] <ArrenLex> berent: your CD is screwed up.
[08:30] <snoop> like ubuntu dapper :P
[08:30] <ArrenLex> berent: si it scratched?
[08:30] <ArrenLex> is *
[08:30] <berent> arrenlex : no
[08:30] <berent> arrenlex : i can rip it
[08:31] <mnepton> volvoguy: i would use Dapper, personally.
[08:31] <berent> arrenlex : infact i ripped it and played
[08:31] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: today when i try to connect with wpa just like yesterday and i'm getting no signal. I unplug then plugin my ap. Still no signal. I deactivate my wdevice then i notice i get a signal when my device is deactivated. when my wdevice is activated my sent and recieved is showing alot of packages.
[08:31] <mnepton> volvoguy: and that's personally, not wearing my Official Work Propellor Beanie.
[08:31] <volvoguy> ArrenLex, even this close to the next release? in a few weeks wouldn't the upgrade to edgy be easier from edgy than dapper?
[08:32] <ArrenLex> volvo: why on earth do you want a cutting edge machine for a server?! Most servers I know still run 2.4 kernels, because stability is what's important, not the latest 3D cards.
[08:32] <volvoguy> mnepton, that's two votes. :) thx. any other thoughts?
[08:32] <wastrel> volvoguy:  for a server i think they'd recommend you not upgrade to edgy at all.
[08:32] <raeb> volvoguy: i'd vote for a stable release as well
[08:32] <volvoguy> ArrenLex, because my 2.4 server crashes like hell.
[08:32] <mnepton> volvoguy: i don;t mean to bash on Edgy, it's a good release. but for stability and long term support, Dapper is the right choice for a server.
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: What happens if you manually try to add the connection while n-m isn't seeing it?
[08:33] <berent> arrenlex : but it says its a readonly filesystem and it has 555 permission
[08:33] <berent> arrenlex : i dunno whats wrong with it
[08:33] <ArrenLex> berent: I don't know; I'm not familiar with xine and not very familiar with vcds. Sorry.
[08:33] <Chandu> Hi
[08:33] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:33] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:33] <berent> arrenlex : even mplayer says seek failed
[08:33] <mnepton> volvoguy: i run Dapper server on my personal server. /whois me, and then decide what you want to do. ;)
[08:34] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: what do you mean manually? and where
[08:34] <Chandu> I want to know How Ubuntu if moving with debian upstream packages
[08:34] <ArrenLex> berent: can you copy the file to your hard disk using cp?
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: "Connect to other wireless network" under the n-m applet.
[08:34] <berent> arrenlex : is it something with the .dat files in general which is the problem
[08:34] <mnepton> Chandu: that question is probably better for #ubuntu-devel than #ubuntu
[08:34] <wastrel> my personal server is still running breezy ;] 
[08:34] <Chandu> I have found some ubuntu packages with <version>-XubuntuY syntax ..What is this
[08:34] <ArrenLex> berent: I don't know; I'm sorry. Not familiar with vcds.
[08:34] <volvoguy> ok. going with dapper. one more quickie.... on a dual P3 500Mhz machine do you think it would benefit much from running the identical SCSI discs in it as (software) RAID1?
[08:34] <berent> arrenlex : i cant copy it says readonly but i can rip it
[08:34] <ArrenLex> Chandu: patches specific to ubuntu. Usually security.
[08:35] <berent> quite unusual
[08:35] <cafuego> volvoguy: I will make 0 difference in speed.
[08:35] <Chandu> mnepton, ok . I will ask there
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Chandu: the debian analogue of this is -XsargeY syntax for stables.
[08:35] <volvoguy> BTW, I have breezy on it now - but when i installed it i was using it as a desktop machine and have tons of crap i don't need there anymore and need to install a ton of new crap to do what I want - hence the reinstall.
[08:35] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: I'm not getting any wireless options under the icon drop down menue. They were their yesterday.
[08:35] <cafuego> volvoguy: ... but it's handy for when a disk dies; it will just keep working :-)
[08:36] <goofy> does anyone know how many address lines a 8 bit ISA slot has
[08:36] <Chandu> ArrenLex, I am working on building a debian based distro .. I am modifying some gnome related pacakges .. Iam following same like ubuntu and appending for example: gdm-2.8.0 as gdm-2.8.0-0boss1
[08:36] <AnAnt> what package contains the boot splash in Dapper ?
[08:36] <mnepton> AnAnt: ubuntu-artwork
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: Right click and see if wireless is enabled.
[08:37] <mnepton> AnAnt: if you want to change it, just install the gnome-art package
[08:37] <volvoguy> cafuego, yeah... it's a tough decision, since the one SCSI disc with dapper on it right now works ok (for what i need to do right now), so i'd hate to reformat the whole thing and do RAID and not remember how I got to the current state. :)
[08:37] <Chandu> ArrenLex, Adding my version to some specific pacakges ..will it give problem .. like version mismatch or something during installation of other packages
[08:37] <ArrenLex> Chandu: Whoever suggested that you should check on #ubuntu-devel is probably right. I think you should do that only if you've patched the packages, IMHO.
[08:37] <AnAnt> mnepton: gnome-art ?
[08:37] <mnepton> AnAnt: gnome-art
[08:37] <loquitus_of_borg> Hey people... I was wondering... if I want to use the NPTL instead of the old LinuxThreads libraries for my multi-threaded application, what do I need to do? Is it a whole different set of function calls, or do I continue to use functions like pthread_create, etc...? How do I know if I am using NPTL or LinuxThreads?
[08:37] <cafuego> volvoguy: dpkg --get-selections > list_of_stuff.txt
[08:37] <AnAnt> mnepton: what's that ?
[08:37] <Chandu> ArrenLex, ok
[08:37] <mnepton> !gnome-art
[08:37] <ubotu> gnome-art: install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 200 kB
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Chandu: typically packages depend >= some version. That means, as long as you're above that, you won't have issues.
[08:38] <volvoguy> i have two RAID1 arrays in the machine for file storage. if i reformat and go with RAID do I need to keep any config files or anything to get it up and running again?
[08:38] <volvoguy> cafuego, oooh.thanks! :)
[08:38] <J-_> when setting up the proftpd, should i put the directory to /var/www on my LAMP server so when i upload the files they go there?
[08:38] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: Yesterday the drop down menue had wired connection and under that their was the wireless connection but now its not their.
[08:38] <cafuego> volvoguy: Also back up /etc
[08:38] <nicholaspaul> volvoguy: ???
[08:38] <AnAnt> mnepton: no, I want the boot splash that appears after GRUB !
[08:38] <nicholaspaul> :D
[08:39] <Chandu> ArrenLex, No some packages I tried to install over that ..but it is asking for the exact match dependency
[08:39] <volvoguy> nicholaspaul, what? you're on online elsewhere!?
[08:39] <ArrenLex> Chandu: then modify those packages if you know yours are compatible.
[08:39] <volvoguy> cafuego, ok. that's what i assumed.
[08:39] <ArrenLex> Chandu: or use wildcards. *
[08:39] <nicholaspaul> volvoguy: i sure am!!
[08:39] <ArrenLex> Chandu: and really, I think you should ask on -devel.
[08:39] <Chandu> ArrenLex, ok
[08:39] <volvoguy> nicholaspaul, sorry - i'm batch video encoding on that machine. i'll move this there. :)
[08:40] <mnepton> AnAnt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: a) is wireless enabled in the right-click, b) is there an option to add one?
[08:40] <AnAnt> mnepton: but the images are in ubuntu-artwork, right ?
[08:40] <nicholaspaul> volvoguy: okee!! back in a sec...
[08:40] <volvoguy> thanks folks. i'm going to dive into this full force i guess!
[08:40] <J-_> when setting up the proftpd, should i put the directory to /var/www on my LAMP server so when i upload the files they go there?
[08:41] <RMorris84> how do i make a folder hidden?
[08:41] <zoidberg> guys what is the EDGY discussion channel?
[08:41] <AnAnt> mnepton: ok, I found it, thanks
[08:41] <ArrenLex> RMorris84: you'll have to rename it to start with a period. ".thisisahiddenfolder"
[08:41] <ArrenLex> zoid: #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <Kubuntu1234> Has anyone got Suspend-to-disk (hibernate) working?
[08:41] <RMorris84> roger! thanks
[08:42] <AnAnt> Kubuntu1234: yeah, in Dapper
[08:42] <AnAnt> Kubuntu1234: and Edgy too
[08:42] <puff> I've hosed /dev/sda2, what's normally on that?  Looks smallish.
[08:42] <AnAnt> Kubuntu1234: is it hibernate or wake-up that doesn't work ?
[08:42] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: under my signal bar the dropdown properties. I click that it brings up my connections my ethr 1 wireless is showing active.
[08:42] <Kubuntu1234> Did it work out-of-the-box ? Or did you install some package?
[08:42] <volvoguy> cafuego, that's a great dpkg option! thanks!
[08:43] <ArrenLex> puff: It's a partition.
[08:43] <ArrenLex> puff: of your main drive.
[08:43] <AnAnt> Kubuntu1234: out of the box, but sometimes wake up fails if I suspend from the GUI
[08:43] <cafuego> volvoguy: See also dpkg --set-selections < list_of_stuff.txt
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: I thought you said it wasn't showing?
[08:43] <AnAnt> Kubuntu1234: so now, I suspend from virtual console : acpitool -S
[08:43] <volvoguy> cafuego, okey dokey.
[08:43] <puff> Ah, hm...
[08:43] <puff> Any idea how I'd figure out which partition?
[08:43] <ArrenLex> puff: what does "fdisk -l" show?
[08:43] <Kubuntu1234> After fiddling, I got suspend-to-disk working - but slow!!
[08:44] <ArrenLex> That's "sudo fdisk -l", sorry
[08:44] <Kubuntu1234> Suspend-to-RAM doesn't work at all
[08:44] <Kubuntu1234> It goes to screen saver, turned screen off, and back to the login screen again
 help!!!!!!! i edited fstab and now kubuntu wont boot!!! :((((((( im back in live CD any idea how to fix>?
[08:44] <Kubuntu1234> I might try your command line AnAnt
[08:45] <volvoguy> cafuego, so i can go through the list i made and comment out the stuff i don't need and then install everything i DO need in one fell swoop?!
[08:45] <ubuntu> i know what to change back just the drive wont mount
[08:45] <puff> http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/206083
[08:45] <puff> ArrenLex: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/206083
[08:45] <ArrenLex> ubuntu: what do you mean, "won't mount"?
[08:45] <cafuego> volvoguy: rather than comment it out, just delete the appropriate line (in a copy of the file)
[08:45] <volvoguy> cafuego, gotcha. that rocks.
[08:46] <ArrenLex> puff: "Compaq diagnostics", it says.
[08:46] <cafuego> volvoguy: .deb tools aren't superior just coz their users are leet ;-)
[08:46] <ArrenLex> puff: I'm guessing, unless "Compaq diagnostics" is what you call your porn directory, nothing important.
[08:46] <puff> Yeah....
[08:46] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: all my icons are showing my wired icon but the wireless icon has a "!" in front of it. under propertis/configure/ my ether0 wired but my ether 01 "device" is active but showing a signal connection on my icon tray.
[08:46] <puff> somebody elsenet tells me it's something that I may need to reinstall if I ever need to flash the bios.
[08:46] <volvoguy> cafuego, :)
[08:47] <Egyptooo> Hello everyone:)
[08:47] <^Ocean^> whats the command to change the java enviroment im running
[08:47] <ubuntu> when i try to mount it it just says : error has occured
[08:47] <ArrenLex> puff: I suggest you google for what compaq installs on your machine by default and whether you need it. I don't have a Compaq.
[08:47] <ArrenLex> ubuntu: try mounting it from the command line.
[08:47] <puff> ArrenLex: oddly enough, this is a thinkpad.  Go figure.
[08:47] <ubuntu> k brb
[08:47] <wastrel> ^Ocean^:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:47] <puff> ArrenLex: thanks...
[08:48] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: when i go to configer my devices. If i deactivate my wireless device then i see a icon signal.
[08:48] <AnAnt> in which package did Dapper put it's usplash image?
[08:48] <ice_1963> Compaq is jest a hp
[08:48] <AnAnt> mnepton: the one I found was Grub's splash not usplash
[08:48] <ubuntu> can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:49] <ArrenLex> ubuntu: mount like this: "sudo mount /dev/sda2 <somefolder>"
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: Have you checked for those two things I said earlier?
[08:50] <seeker2599> what can i use to play .wmv files that are embedded into a webpage?
[08:50] <Egyptooo> I think i messed up my video drivers in Ubuntu, I installed the Ati package and then installed the fglrx then re installed the Ati, what i need now is to uninstall everything related to my video modules and only use the ati default driver,how can i do that?
[08:50] <ArrenLex> seeker: mplayerplug-in
[08:50] <ArrenLex> !mplayerplug-in
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayerplug-in - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <ArrenLex> Oh. Wait. They renamed it for some reason.
[08:51] <ArrenLex> !mozilla-mplayer
[08:51] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: their is enable networking which is my wired device but no to a) and b)
[08:51] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[08:51] <ubuntu> ok got it mounted, now whats the command line to edit fstab
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: It's not even just unchecked, Enable wireless doesn't exist?
[08:51] <ice_1963> that's mozilla-mplayer plugin
[08:52] <seeker2599> it should be on my add/remove right?
[08:52] <ArrenLex> Egyptooo: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and change the video card driver to "radeon". Then, you can just apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-control if you installed it.
[08:52] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: that enabel wireless was their yesterday and it worked now its not.
[08:52] <Egyptooo> ArrenLex what about the ATi installer package?
[08:52] <Egyptooo> how can i unstall it
[08:52] <Egyptooo> ?
[08:53] <ArrenLex> Egyptoo: OH, you installed from official sources?!
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: That's very weird.  Is the ipw2200 module loaded?
[08:53] <ArrenLex> Why?
[08:53] <Egyptooo> ArrenLex yes, been only 3 weeks on linux , so forgive my ignorance
[08:53] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: what do you mean loaded?
[08:54] <ArrenLex> Egyptoo: the only thing I can suggest is to follow the instructions in
[08:54] <ArrenLex> !fglrx
[08:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:54] <ArrenLex> backwards.
[08:54] <ArrenLex> Egyptoo: that is, the instructions for ATI drivers, from ati.com
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: Kernel modules have to be made active to do their thing; try 'sudo modprobe ipw2200' to make sure it is and see if anything changes.
[08:55] <Egyptooo> Ok, ill check that and the link ubotu passed, thanks for the help for now:)
[08:55] <ArrenLex> Good luck :)
[08:57] <seeker2599> haha i got java to work
[08:57] <ArrenLex> Congratulations. =P
[08:57] <ArrenLex> So did I. By running apt-get install sun-java5-plugin.
[08:57] <Byan> mm.. I am thinking about install ubuntu on my workstation...
[08:57] <seeker2599> i just updated and it was in the add/remove program
[08:57] <ArrenLex> Hey Byan.
[08:58] <Byan> hey
[08:58] <ArrenLex> Got that printer to work?
[08:58] <mnepton> ArrenLex: but that's not all you have to do ;)
[08:58] <Byan> mhmmm
[08:58] <ArrenLex> mnepton: no? Do tell?
[08:58] <mnepton> ArrenLex: sudo update-java-defaults
[08:58] <ArrenLex> mnepton: why?
[08:58] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: not found responce
[08:58] <mnepton> ArrenLex: otherwise you're still running the GCJ JRE and not Sun's
[08:58] <ArrenLex> I see.
[08:59] <ArrenLex> I didn't know that; I didn't have gcj installed.
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Thanks, I'll keep it in mind! :)
[08:59] <Byan> yeah.. that GCJ JRE is annoying
[08:59] <mnepton> ArrenLex: it's part of the base install
[08:59] <ArrenLex> mnepton: I know. I didn't do the base install, I started from server and added what I needed.
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Or, that is, I don't know, rather.
[08:59] <ArrenLex> But now I know, so thanks.
[09:00] <ArrenLex> So what do you need, Byan?
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: Hm, then it seems like your kernel is missing parts...I think that might be beyond me.
[09:00] <mnepton> ArrenLex: "sudo update-java-defaults -l" will show you a list of possible JRE candidates, and then you use that same command + the name to select Sun's JRE
[09:00] <ArrenLex> sudo: update-java-defaults: command not found
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Hmmm. o_O
[09:00] <Byan> anyone here have an nvidia dual monitor set up?
[09:01] <ArrenLex> Byan: might you be looking for xinerama?
[09:01] <ArrenLex> !xinerama
[09:01] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[09:01] <mnepton> ArrenLex: sorry, update-java-alternatives
[09:01] <ArrenLex> Thanks, mnepton, that gave the expected output.
[09:01] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: is their any place you know of that i can find wireless trouble shooting.
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: Well, generally here or ##linux should help; it's just a matter of finding the right person, and it looks like today I'm not it :(
[09:03] <Byan> ArrenLex: I already know it can be done.. I just wanted to know someone's opinion
[09:04] <Lurch21> tonyyarusso: also i'm using Ubuntu on my dell Latitude D610. I'm in the process of geting all my device drivers to work do you know of any site for this task.
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> Lurch21: The wiki and forums most likely.
[09:04] <tat> Lurch21: you could try your luck here?
[09:05] <seeker2599> what do i use to run a .bin file
[09:05] <ArrenLex> seeker: chmod +x file.bin && ./file.bin
[09:05] <ArrenLex> To make it executable and execute it, respectively.
[09:05] <Lurch21> tonyarusso: Thanks for your time.
[09:06] <Lurch21> tat: I have a wireless connection weird problem.
[09:07] <seeker2599> whats the command to navigate to the desktop using the terminal again?
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> seeker2599: cd ~/Desktop
[09:08] <seeker2599> ty
[09:09] <tat> Lurch21: D610 got a ipw2200 chip, right?
[09:09] <tat> Lurch21: should work pretty much out of the box.. what is your problem?
[09:09] <Lurch21> tat: yesterday i got my wdevice to work and i was running wpa and was connected. today i logged on and my device had no signal even when it was activated. The icon dropdown that did have enable wireless is not their.
[09:10] <lasse> Can anyone help me install intel 82852/855 drivers? It's a tar.gz file
[09:10] <tat> strange.. maybe theres some button to enable /disable the wlan on your keyboard?
[09:11] <lasse> It's a graphic driver for my laptop
[09:11] <Lurch21> tat: I just switched to Ubuntu from XP now i need to activate some device. I'v tried to use the driver disk that dell sent with this but it does'nt work on Linux.
[09:12] <snoop> lasse: tar -xzvf file.tar.gz
[09:12] <ubuntu_> how do i edit my normal installs fstab from the live CD?
[09:12] <DarkMageZ> lasse, ubuntu already comes with drivers for that video chip iirc
[09:12] <tat> lostsync: oh, ok.. so you never had the wlan working in ubuntu?
[09:12] <lasse> the newest drivers?
[09:13] <Lam_> is it advisable to run Media Player Classic in wine instead of Totem?
[09:13] <DarkMageZ> lasse, maybe not the newest. but they should work fine, if not file a bug and they might get updated
[09:13] <ArrenLex> Lam: why would you want to?
[09:13] <snoop> Lam_: why not just install mplayer?
[09:13] <ArrenLex> MPlayer is God unto you all.
[09:13] <snoop> ;)
[09:14] <snoop> I use mplayer and vlc
[09:14] <tat> Lurch21: wrong nick up there ^^
[09:14] <Healot> it's a "kiss kiss" player
[09:14] <Lam_> my mplayer seems messed up :/  it wont render subtitles correctly (expected), and it doesn't lock aspect ratio at full screen?
[09:14] <Lam_> :(
[09:14] <cpk2> i use kaffeine
[09:14] <lasse> ok. Since i didn't know how to install the tar.gz i installed a old driver (rpm) a month ago. Maybe i should install a new driver instead?
[09:14] <ArrenLex> lasse: aren't intel drivers included in ubuntu?
[09:15] <lasse> i don't know. I just want to know how to install the driver
[09:15] <Lam_> other than that, mplayer is pretty good though. it has excellent decompression of h264 video
[09:15] <Lam_> at least compared to totem *shudders*
[09:15] <Lurch21> tat: I did have it working last night. i was wirelessly connected wpa and everything.
[09:16] <brynk> anyone in here using an epson aculaser c1100?
[09:16] <wastrel> !compile
[09:16] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:16] <wastrel> lasse:  ^^^
[09:17] <DarkMageZ> wastrel, please don't point new users in directions which are likely to lead them to more harm than good
[09:17] <Stoffe^> Guys! a quick question... is the swedish apt sources for v5.10 Ubuntu offline?
[09:17] <tat> Lurch21: ok. no reason why it still shouldnt work. tried to shut down and restart your computer?
[09:18] <tat> Stoffe^: looks like they work fine here..
[09:18] <lasse> i have already tried to use ./configure, but it won't work. I get this message: bash: ./configure: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog/no such file or directory
[09:18] <haffe> !edgy
[09:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:19] <Lurch21> tat: I did still nothing . but i have this weird syptom that happens when i deactivate my wdevice the wireless signal shows.
[09:20] <Stoffe^> ~[ tat ] ~ so it might be a routing error then huh?
[09:21] <poningru> is it ok to mount more than one partition at the same mount point?
[09:21] <Flannel> poningru: no
[09:21] <poningru> frack
[09:21] <Flannel> poningru: it should give you an error trying to do it anyway
[09:21] <poningru> so I gotta go software raid
[09:21] <Stoffe^> ~[ tat ] ~ se.archive.ubuntu.com = 130.239.18.158 = timeouts
[09:21] <Nothing_about> .
[09:22] <lasse> Can anyone please help me? ./configure won't work
[09:22] <buddha> hey
[09:23] <snoop> lasee: check the readme not all tools uses ./configure
[09:23] <snoop> lasse*
[09:23] <lasse> The readme just tell me to extract it
[09:23] <DarkMageZ> lasse, ubuntu already has drivers for your card. they should work fine... if there is a problem you are having with it, please file a bug
[09:23] <cherubiel> lasse: look for binaries in the extracted folder.
[09:23] <snoop> then extract it to the directory it says
[09:24] <Smotang> Hey, is there a free version of adobe macromedia flash player?
[09:24] <lasse> the readme: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support/9722/ENG/readme.txt
[09:24] <ArrenLex> Smotang: Yes there is! Does it work? No.
[09:25] <ArrenLex> Smotang: check out gnash. But ATM it's only of interest to developers.
[09:25] <lasse> i want to install the new driver because i found a RPM driver and installed it, but it is really old
[09:25] <Smotang> ah i see :(
[09:25] <ArrenLex> lasse: the new driver is INCLUDED IN UBUNTU.
[09:25] <ArrenLex> You don't HAVE to install it.
[09:25] <lasse> But i installed a old one!
[09:25] <lasse> for some reason
[09:25] <ArrenLex> But why?
[09:25] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[09:26] <ArrenLex> What chipset is this?
[09:26] <lasse> 85852/855
[09:26] <lasse> 82852*
[09:26] <ArrenLex> Then install the xserver-xorg-driver-i810 package.
[09:27] <lasse> it says i already have the newest version.
[09:27] <ArrenLex> Then you don't need to install anything.
[09:28] <ArrenLex> Unless you're certain you've replaced files in it, in which case you should apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[09:30] <lasse> done. Now on to the next problem: Bad framerate in flashmovies/-games. Is it because of old flash7 or what?
[09:30] <ArrenLex> lasse: there is no "new" flash7. There's only one version.
[09:30] <lasse> i know. But flash7 IS old
[09:31] <groszek> ?
[09:31] <lasse> when i watch a youtube movie or something, the framerate is very bad
[09:31] <lasse> But it works good in winxp
[09:32] <groszek> czy pisze kto po polsku?
[09:33] <ArrenLex> !pl
[09:33] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:33] <groszek> dziki
[09:35] <groszek> ArrenLex mam pytanie czy to dziaa na zasadzie tak jak chat w DC++
[09:35] <Healot> !pl
[09:35] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:36] <DarkMageZ> lasse, flash player 9 for linux beta should be appearing within a month
[09:37] <lasse> good! But what can cause my performance problem?
[09:38] <KenSentMe> DarkMageZ: that would be great news. Do you have a source for that info?
[09:38] <kryptoz> Hi all
[09:38] <DarkMageZ> KenSentMe, http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[09:41] <puff> Okay, so I got the ipod all working fine on sdb2, rebooted and now it's on sdc2.
[09:41] <puff> How do I get automounting working again?
[09:41] <KenSentMe> DarkMageZ: ty
[09:41] <DarkMageZ> KenSentMe, yeah, it will be fun to make it crash =D
[09:48] <MZ> the dl file seems to be the same for the desktop as for the server edition. Is that correct?
[09:50] <cpk2> anyone know a way to stop aptitude from wanted to "upgrade" packages that I compiled myself using apt-build or even apt-get source -b
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> MZ: dl file?
[09:50] <jaakkos> hello. i'm trying to listen to music in my university with headphones on an ubuntu box, but i'm not hearing anything (i think i hear soft clicks when i mess with the master volume control). the default mixer seems to be alsa and this has Intel ICH5 -chip. do you have some ideas what could be wrong?
[09:51] <MZ> the iso image to download (dl)
[09:52] <jon_> hi
[09:52] <jon_> care to chat
[09:52] <snoop> no chatting here
[09:53] <jon_> sorry I'm testing, first time to set up
[09:53] <Healot> jon_: Q&A session only )
[09:54] <MZ> oops, sorry found it... they are two files on the same page
[09:54] <jon_> anybody could help me configure my dosemu
[09:54] <babo> I want to test my sound. Who knows a site that plays flash sound ?
[09:54] <babo> pandora.com is offline ...
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> What command would I use to rename all files ending in .htm to ending in .html?
[09:54] <anilomkar> can any one tell me the best XML editor in Ubuntu ?
[09:54] <tristan_> !beryl
[09:54] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[09:55] <snoop> !flash
[09:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> mv *.htm ./*.html gave me the error "mv: target `./*.html' is not a directory" - what am I doing wrong?
[09:56] <Egyptooo> how do i know if i am using dapper or edgy?
[09:57] <mnepton> Egyptooo: System -> About Ubuntu
[09:57] <cherubiel> tonyyarusso: remove the /
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> cherubiel: Same thing.
[09:57] <mathieu> tonyyarusso: you can't do things like that
[09:57] <Egyptooo> ah ok, thanks mnepton
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> cherubiel, mathieu: haha, just remembered the rename command.  Silly me.
[09:58] <mathieu> ... with mv
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> Right
[09:58] <mathieu> ... in 1 command
[09:58] <mathieu> :)
[09:58] <cherubiel> anyone running rockbox on a video ipod here?
[10:03] <Gibbster> Hello! I'm having trouble with sharing folders the samba way. I followed the guide for setting up a folder without authentication, but whenever I try to connect via the local machine, it asks for a username and password! even when I give it my username and password, it rejects those!
[10:05] <Gibbster> Can anyone give some tips for setting up/troubleshooting samba? thanks
[10:06] <minimoris> just want to say Hello to everybody on this chanel:)
[10:06] <KenSentMe> !samba > Gibbster
[10:07] <Omnius> g'day, i have a poweredge 2300 and am currently installing 6.06, i used to have m$ 2003 , all that i used it for was bridging 4 nics and ftp serving, how do i bridge the nic's in linux?
[10:07] <minimoris> im new to this chat so i don`t even know where to start, who to ask... so im asking here can i get some help about ubuntu
[10:08] <susscorfa> you should just ask your question minimoris
[10:08] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: Sorry, what was that?
[10:08] <minimoris> ok sussscofra tnx
[10:08] <susscorfa> and hope someone is there to awnser is who knows the awnser
[10:09] <Gibbster> I set it up as instructed here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_share_public_folders_with_read_only_permission_.28Authentication.3DNo.29
[10:09] <Gibbster> That was after I tried and failed to get the gui interface to work correctly
[10:09] <rizwan_> hi
[10:11] <Healot> hi rizwan_
[10:12] <goofy> i was wondering if it were possible to emulate one virtual hard drive out of two phisical drives
[10:12] <minimoris> well my problem is: i have a amd 64 1GB of memory, dist is divided to 3 partitions i made a swap and instaled ubuntu on the ext2 partition.... well i was very glad when everything went smooth with the instalation but wher my Ubuntu linux started my ventilator goes mad spining so fast its "anoing" and both procesors work at about 98% even thoe not even one program is runing a even made a screen shot of it if some whats to see it late
[10:12] <rizwan_> i hav a question ther is .dat files not proper running at ubuntu
[10:12] <minimoris> sory for some mistakes in speeling :)
[10:12] <Zaggynl> minimoris, open a terminal, and enter the command top
[10:12] <wijnand> I am running dapper, and whenever there is a software update I get a Windows-style baloon that doesn't seem to want to go away until I give it attention. How do I get rid of those once and for all?
[10:13] <Zaggynl> minimoris, it will show the processes running, with the ones using the most resources at the top of the list
[10:13] <minimoris> nope  Zaggyn1 i cant do that beacuse not even one programs is running
[10:13] <rizwan_> i hav a question there is .dat files not proper running at ubuntu
[10:13] <wijnand> lol i think i may have found it
[10:13] <Zaggynl> minimoris, you cannot start anything?
[10:14] <wijnand> switch to a console then
[10:14] <minimoris> i can but it works so slow like i use P166
[10:14] <wijnand> ctrl+alt+F4 for instance
[10:15] <minimoris> the ventialtor starts going mad at the begining in the grub where i choes which OS to start
[10:15] <rizwan_> hi
[10:15] <wijnand> and it doesn't matter which os you start?
[10:15] <Zaggynl> weird issue minimoris, if you have a another computer with a webbrowser, try making a post at ubuntuforums
[10:16] <minimoris> all i could do i to take a screen shot everty thing else when i try to run just "hangs out" and it doesnt work
[10:16] <babo> Could not find kernel includes in /lib/modules or /usr/src/linux - cannot build the kqemu module
[10:16] <babo> ?
[10:16] <wijnand> oh i know that problem
[10:16] <wijnand> i had it too the other day
[10:16] <Gibbster> Anyone  familiar with samba? I can get windows to recognise that there is a share, but I can't authenticate
[10:16] <canllaith> Hey, is anyone using the sony_acpi module in edgy ?
[10:16] <minimoris> only if i start Ubuntu
[10:16] <Zaggynl> wijnand, you should be able to right click the update balloon thingy and click the option to not to display it.
[10:16] <minimoris> than it goes mad
[10:16] <Gibbster> Which is weird, since I can't even authenticate as Guest (!)
[10:16] <wijnand> minimoris go to keyboard shortcuts and remove all shortcuts related to gnome-screenshot
[10:16] <minimoris> if i start xp it works fine
[10:16] <wijnand> Zaggynl yes i noticed... sadly i'm a bit slow
[10:17] <Zaggynl> wijnand, np! I had to search through the forum to find out too xD
[10:17] <wijnand> hehehe
[10:17] <KenSentMe> Gibbster: sorry i missed your reply. You've got a pm by the bot ubotu
[10:18] <marcusgrazette> hey, i'm having problems with my swap, getting this error "swapon: /dev/hda4: Operation not permitted" also, in my etc/fstab the mount point for /dev/hda4 is set to none
[10:18] <marcusgrazette> any ideas?
[10:18] <wijnand> so i hear that edgy will be more cutting edge than dapper. i'm running ubuntu here at work, should i upgrade in a few weeks when it's released or just stick with dapper?
[10:18] <Healot> !sudo
[10:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:18] <minimoris> ok tnx to all if i fix it im going to write it here
[10:18] <Zaggynl> sudo make sandwich!
[10:19] <minimoris> going to ubuntu forum take care
[10:19] <Zaggynl> err:dependency bread not found!
[10:19] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: Do you need to enable Guest with smbpasswd in samba?
[10:19] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, that depends. If you want a more verstile OS yes, but if you don't care, if you are happy with the current configuration don't want to bother with upgrade thingys, then don't
[10:19] <wijnand> Zaggynl: i only used sudo once. `sudo passwd` ;)
[10:19] <Zaggynl> haha
[10:20] <Zaggynl> you wanted to run root?
[10:20] <wijnand> ReverseBlade what do you mean more versatile?
[10:20] <wijnand> yeah i am lazy. typing sudo every time annoys me.
[10:20] <KenSentMe> Gibbster: i don't know actually. Have you tried it with a real user?
[10:20] <ReverseBlade> Yesterday I met a guy who changed su and sudo's permissions that he cannot use them any more, it was dead lock
[10:20] <wijnand> yeah i don't do that
[10:20] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: yes, but with no luck
[10:20] <wijnand> just set a root password i actually know
[10:20] <Zaggynl> it is annoying, but save
[10:20] <Zaggynl> *safe
[10:21] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: I'm trying to be as liberal as possible, just to get *something* to work
[10:21] <wijnand> well i never su to root unless i need to anyway
[10:21] <champ> how do i install xlibs? sudo apt-get install xlibs?
[10:21] <wijnand> ReverseBlade: i hear it'll be a lot faster than dapper too? i.e. boot time?
[10:21] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Greetings, a friend of mine just installed a lot of stuff prior to upgrading to dapper, but after this is X server refuses to work. Anybody got a suggestion to fix this?
[10:21] <Zaggynl> if it is named liked that, yep
[10:21] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, I haven't used Edgy, but almost all the comments I 've read that it is superior  than dapper, that it is faster and more stable
[10:22] <wijnand> aha
[10:22] <wijnand> sounds like it's worth a try
[10:22] <Zaggynl> more stable and faster? it is cutting edge, so I'm a bit sceptic about the stable part
[10:22] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, since you are asking this questions, I think these things bother you , and  I believe it would be better for you to upgrade
[10:22] <wijnand> hehe
[10:22] <Zaggynl> sound sweet though
[10:22] <wijnand> i'll wait for a week or two after it's released to see what people say
[10:23] <wijnand> and that's not just because i'll be abroad early november :P
[10:23] <ReverseBlade> Zaggynl, Most people commented that edgy is more stable. And none of I've seen commented the reverse
[10:23] <Zaggynl> Well, so far so good then :)
[10:23] <Zaggynl> !edgy
[10:23] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:23] <Zaggynl> !schedule > Zaggynl
[10:23] <wijnand> ReverseBlade: how does one measure stability anyway? i mean Ubuntu never crashed on me or anything...
[10:23] <champ> is xlibs the same as  libxft1?
[10:24] <iKst> hi
[10:24] <ReverseBlade> We all know , dapper was hardly released due to its strict deadline even if it is extended 2 months
[10:24] <Zaggynl> October 26th <= soon!
[10:24] <iKst> any webdesigners / developers here using ubuntu ?
[10:25] <foobarfitta> Hi, i think my xserver is fucked up, i got an blured screen
[10:25] <foobarfitta> what shall i apt-get
[10:25] <jenda> Is there a good GUI configuration tool for wireless networking?
[10:25] <puff> iKst: I guess I qualify.
[10:25] <jenda> !language > foobarfitta
[10:25] <Zaggynl> foobarfitta, tried reconfiguring?
[10:25] <canllaith> networkmanager is great
[10:25] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, how should I know ? but consider you are one person. There may be other people who are suffering because of instability in dapper and not in edgy. Consider this
[10:26] <barf>  can anyone explain how to keep-back the kernel package from dist-upgrade?
[10:26] <susscorfa> jenda: ther si a gui for wireless called netstumbler i beleve
[10:26] <susscorfa> believe
[10:26] <Zaggynl> wijnand, backup all your stuff, check how long a reinstall of dapper would take and go for edgy :)
[10:26] <wijnand> ReverseBlade sure, i was just wondering how it was unstable, not suggesting you are all-knowing (though you are one of a select group who would object to such a qualification ;) )
[10:26] <canllaith> netstumbler is for wardriving, not configuration.
[10:26] <jenda> SUSaiyan: thx
[10:26] <iKst> puff: im thinking about moving to ubuntu from windows...any traps or bad things ? :)
[10:26] <jenda> err... susscorfa: thx
[10:26] <wijnand> Zaggynl: installing it was quick
[10:26] <canllaith> jenda: if you want to configure it, try network-manager-gnome.
[10:27] <canllaith> netstumbler is for wardriving.
[10:27] <champ> need help on how to install cedega
[10:27] <wijnand> i installed it plus set it up in one work day (don't tell my boss though ;)
[10:27] <susscorfa> hmm probably canllaith is right i have it installed it , but not at reach right now
[10:27] <Zaggynl> iKst, you cannot run windows apps in ubuntu, you can try with wine. But I can do about everything apart from perfect gaming in Ubuntu
[10:27] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Come on people, last time you got a really simple solution for me. How do I restore my X server after upgrading? I can remember something about the restricted packages but I am not sure
[10:27] <iKst> i know about win. apps, i do need photoshop however, does it run in crossover office ?
[10:27] <Zaggynl> browsing, movies, programming, music, some gaming, pleasure!
[10:27] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, I am just an average linux user with some enthusiasm and curiosity  , no more
[10:27] <iKst> and how simple is it to configure
[10:28] <wijnand> iKst: give The Gimp a try
[10:28] <cpk2> champ: cedega should have a .deb
[10:28] <Zaggynl> iKst, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227360&highlight=photoshop
[10:28] <jenda> canllaith: That's not the default gnome network-admin, is it? (DL'ing 200 megs of edgy updates, so can't check apt)
[10:28] <wijnand> ReverseBlade: have you ever considered taoism? :)
[10:28] <Zaggynl> iKst, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=8906643
[10:28] <canllaith> jenda: No, it's much nicer :)
[10:28] <iKst> i did try it on windows, but i just cant get used to it :)
[10:28] <Zaggynl> It seems not to be perfect, also, the Gimp can be an alternative
[10:28] <wijnand> iKst the windows version is a little.. well.. yeah i know what you mean
[10:28] <jaakkos> hello. i'm trying to listen to music in my university with headphones on an ubuntu box, but i'm not hearing anything (i think i hear soft clicks when i mess with the master volume control). the default mixer seems to be alsa and this has Intel ICH5 -chip. do you have some ideas what could be wrong?
[10:28] <wijnand> try it in ubuntu
[10:29] <champ> cpk2: yeah but it looks for xlibs.. and xlibs is not installabe that what is says
[10:29] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, I have read about taoism a lot in deed. Though you know , those who know Tao do not speak , and those speak do know it
[10:29] <marcusgrazette> hi, i'm having problems with swapon getting the error message "swapon: /dev/hda4: Operation not permitted" any ideas?
[10:29] <jenda> canllaith: will check. thx
[10:29] <Zaggynl> jaakkos, check your cables and poke around with alsa-mixer
[10:29] <sorush20> what program do I use to monitor my bandwidth through a device over a long period of time not just on session ?
[10:29] <jaakkos> Zaggynl: the headphones are functional and i've enabled everything in alsa.
[10:29] <cpk2> champ: xlibs is the exact name for the unmet dependency?
[10:29] <jenda> canllaith: the wardriving issue not that bad either, though :) I'm doing it for various univ. networks, so I dunno how this will work...
[10:30] <Gibbster> arghh! I can't set up a windows share, I can't read a windows share! what's going on!
[10:30] <wijnand> ReverseBlade: I happen to have a masters degree in philosophy, but they never introduced me to taoism. I do know, though, that I don't know anything. :)
[10:30] <canllaith> jenda: I have a WPA network at work and WEP at home, and switching between them is pretty painless with networkmanager.
[10:30] <jaakkos> could the sndcard be disabled by an administrator somehow? how could i verify this except by asking them (they're not present right now...)
[10:30] <champ> cpk2: yeah
[10:30] <mnepton> jaakkos: do you get sound when booted from the live cd?
[10:30] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, one  thing, I couldn't exactly get how we get to taoism
[10:31] <Zaggynl> jaakkos, sorry, I'm kinda clueless then
[10:31] <canllaith> is anyone in here using edgy with a sony vaio ?
[10:31] <jaakkos> mnepton: i cannot do that, this is a university workstation
[10:31] <jenda> canllaith: cool. I'm still worried about the driver on the card... but then again, I don't know yet if it works, so the worry might be unnecessary.
[10:31] <Gibbster> And what's with this message: You must log in to access guest@localhost/public????
[10:31] <Gibbster> you must log in to access guest?
[10:31] <canllaith> jenda: I bought an intel machine, makes life a lot easier.
[10:31] <cpk2> champ: looks like the closest thing is xlibs-dev
[10:32] <mnepton> jaakkos: then ask the admin about the media IO configuration
[10:32] <wijnand> ReverseBlade: destiny.
[10:32] <puff> iKst: Dunno, what kind of web development do you do?
[10:32] <jaakkos> /proc/asound/modules contains "0 snd_intel8x0" and alsa-base seems to be ok, too
[10:32] <puff> iKst: I do mostly java web apps, so... I've had very little problems.
[10:32] <jaakkos> mnepton: yeah, i'm going to do that if i can't solve this before... (they are unavailable right now)
[10:32] <puff> iKst: if you want to be paranoid, keep a winxp partition around.
[10:32] <Gibbster> gu
[10:32] <mnepton> jaakkos: no sudo for you, ja?
[10:32] <jaakkos> no sudo.
[10:33] <puff> iKst: Then again, I did most of my work on linux and solaris boxes already, so.
[10:33] <mnepton> jaakkos: you can try "alsamixer" in the temrinal
[10:33] <jaakkos> i'm trying to play mp3 in xmms or vlc
[10:33] <mnepton> *terminal.
[10:33] <Gibbster> iKst: or vmware... I've had a lot of success with that
[10:33] <jaakkos> xmms visualizer works so i guess it's not a codec problem
[10:33] <jaakkos> and vlc has its own codecs anyway
[10:33] <jaakkos> mnepton: done that, no bonus :(
[10:33] <champ> cpk2: ok w8
[10:34] <iKst> puff: what do you use for code ? i do alot of html/css/javascript work and i quite like dreamweaver, anything similar on linux ?
[10:34] <mnepton> jaakkos: then get an admin to allow you to boot of the live cd to sound even works at *all* on that chipset.
[10:34] <jenda> canllaith: I believe I have intel too. It's an Acer Aspire 1652
[10:34] <mnepton> iKst: are you on Windows now?
[10:34] <iKst> yes
[10:34] <jenda> canllaith: is there a way to find out for sure
[10:34] <jenda> (I know the CPU is intel)
[10:34] <KenSentMe> Gibbster: are you trying to access from windows to ubuntu or the other way around?
[10:34] <KenSentMe> Gibbster: and have you tried the links ubotu sent you?
[10:35] <mnepton> iKst: http://jedit.sf.net  <--- your new development tool, both on Linux and Windows. 100% free, written by other geeks, thank me later. ;)
[10:35] <jaakkos> mnepton: ok... thanks for your help guys
[10:35] <cpk2> jenda: maybe lspci?
[10:35] <susscorfa> just google your specs jenda ???
[10:35] <mnepton> jaakkos: sorry i couldn;t be of more help.
[10:35] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: Both! Either! Perferably setting up a share in ubuntu, but I'm getting desperate!
[10:35] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: yes, I read through them
[10:35] <canllaith> jenda: Do you have linux on it now? If so, lspci and read the output
[10:35] <jenda> canllaith: yay. Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[10:36] <jenda> I only use linux.
[10:36] <jenda> Only Ubuntu :)
[10:36] <wijnand> ok so i go through the entire cups dialog only to be unable to use my login/passwd to complete the procedure. grr.
[10:36] <KenSentMe> Gibbster: i've had some problems with accessing from Windows to Ubuntu. The smb username should be the same as the windows username and pass.
[10:36] <mnepton> iKst: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/jedit/jedit42install.exe
[10:36] <canllaith> jenda: Then you shouldn't have any problems :) The Intel stuff is very well supported. I have the 3945ABG and it's great.
[10:36] <jenda> thanks :)
[10:36] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: I've set it up to security = share
[10:37] <mnepton> Gibbster: you want to install openssh-server on Ubuntu and then use Filezilla on Windows to get to the Ubuntu machine.
[10:37] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: so in windows, when I try connecting I get a guest login prompt (ie the username field is greyed out)
[10:37] <iKst> btw...are there any problems with HP notebooks. I have 6125nx with turion
[10:37] <Gibbster> mneptron
[10:37] <Gibbster> mneptron: yes, I guess so.
[10:37] <Gibbster> mneptron: I was hoping for windows shares, but I'm at my wit's end
[10:37] <KenSentMe> Gibbster: try setting up a samba user with same name and pass and then login, so not as guest
[10:38] <mnepton> Gibbster: compared to Samba or NFS, openssh+sftp is *much* faster to get operational. like, by a factor on 20.
[10:38] <KenSentMe> jenda: you're right
[10:38] <mnepton> s/on/of/
[10:38] <puff> iKst: Mostly emacs.
[10:38] <goofy> how do i check what kernal i have
[10:38] <wijnand> why is my notebook fan a lot noisier in dapper than it used to be in hoary?
[10:38] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: I tried that at the beginning. Then I tried home directory shares. Now I'm trying guest logins
[10:38] <mnepton> goofy: uname -a
[10:38] <puff> iKst: no idea, re: dreamweaver.  I think we're at extreme opposite ends of the spectrum, here.
[10:38] <mnepton> goofy: and it's "kernel" ;)
[10:38] <goofy> thanks
[10:39] <wijnand> mnepton: and here i was thinking all this time it was carnal? ;)
[10:39] <KenSentMe> Gibbster: try setting things up like is said in the howto, maybe start from scratch so you know things are all set up well
[10:39] <goofy> sorry...typo......im a moron
[10:39] <mnepton> wijnand: explains why your CD tray is sticky ...
[10:39] <johnnybezak> hey guys, i'm going to dad's for a couple of months and he only has dial up. i want to d/l some packages with their dependancies and take it over, but i'm not on an ubuntu system right now
[10:39] <wijnand> mnepton: how i wish right now i had a slot loading drive ;)
[10:40] <mnepton> wijnand: and me, a camera.
[10:40] <johnnybezak> is there any way i can d/l a package and its deps but not on ubuntu
[10:40] <wijnand> oh i have one of those
[10:40] <iKst> puff :) im not a programmer, i design websites, make css styles and html from templates and that kind of stuff...no hardcore coding etc
[10:40] <KenSentMe> johnnybezak: you mean, just dl the package and not install it?
[10:40] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: Well, for now I guess for now I'll just use SCP. I'll try again when I'm less despondent ;-(
[10:40] <Gibbster> KenSentMe: thanks, though
[10:40] <johnnybezak> KenSentMe: yeah, but i'm not an ubuntu system
[10:41] <mnepton> iKst: you should still use an editor to do that work. "web designers" that work in a WYSIWYG environment aren't really web designers. ;)
[10:41] <KenSentMe> Gibbster: well, it works for me here, but i'm not that good at samba for troubleshooting
[10:41] <KenSentMe> johnnybezak: go to packages.ubuntu.com. There you can download them all
[10:41] <johnnybezak> mnepton: you mean aren't web developers :)
[10:41] <johnnybezak> KenSentMe: will i be able to get the deps their too?
[10:42] <mnepton> Gibbster: get openssh+filezilla working, get the work you need to do done, then take a ddep breath and try Samba again.
[10:42] <iKst> mnepton dreamweaver has code view :) i hardly ever use design mode :)
[10:42] <mnepton> iKst: then why pay for the DW license?
[10:42] <KenSentMe> johnnybezak: you can see what deps there are and dl them too
[10:42] <wijnand> how is the activity of my notebook's fan determined in ubuntu?
[10:42] <canllaith> 'web designers' mostly work in photoshop. The only code they tend to write are html and css templates that then get turned into php (or whatever) by web developers.
[10:42] <mnepton> iKst: that's like buying a car and then pushing it everywhere.
[10:42] <iKst> mnepton because it has other cool features, integrated ftp access etc
[10:43] <mnepton> iKst: FTP? what year is this? :P
[10:43] <Gibbster> mnepton: yes. good advice. Thank you
[10:43] <iKst> mnepton not really, its very handy actualy :) but im not here to argue about dreamweaver :)
[10:43] <johnnybezak> KenSentMe: thanks man, you're a great help :)
[10:43] <mnepton> iKst: jEdit has source view, FTP/SFTP plugins, syntax highlighting for every language known to man, and is 100% free.
[10:43] <KenSentMe> johnnybezak: no problem
[10:44] <iKst> mnepton ill try it, im open to new things :)
[10:44] <Gibbster> mnepton: the thing is, I'm sure I've done it before, ages ago
[10:44] <mnepton> iKst: why pay for an expensive tool when something free does everything you need? *on Windows, Linux, and OSX*?
[10:44] <wijnand> Why do I get no less than two (different!) icons that show my battery capacity etc when I don't have my notebook plugged in?
[10:44] <canllaith> wijnand: there is one you can add as an applet to your panel, and then there is the gnome power manager in the systray.
[10:45] <mnepton> iKst: get familiar with jEdit, and you have your favorite dev environment on any OS you please. and you stop paying Macrodobe. win win.
[10:45] <wijnand> I have Battery Charge Monitor and Power Manager.
[10:45] <wijnand> canllaith: I never added one as an applet
[10:45] <canllaith> wijnand: if you don't want them both I'd suggest you remove 'Battery Charge Monitor' (that's the applet)
[10:45] <wijnand> ok let's see
[10:45] <canllaith> Right click -> Remove from panel
[10:46] <mnepton> Gibbster: maybe you'll have more luck when the task isn't so "OMG GET THIS DONE I CAN'T TRANSFER ANYTHING!!!" take the pressure off and maybe it will all come back to you. :)
[10:46] <mnepton> calm blue ocean, calm blue ocean ...
[10:46] <wijnand> canllaith: was it a design choice to enable both by default?
[10:47] <Gibbster> mnepton: yes. I was getting desperate ;-)
[10:47] <cpk2> Gibbster: i a bookmark of a very good samba walkthrough, one second
[10:47] <babo> how do you see the full path of all the files in a directory ? ... the whole tree structure from the first down to the last file ?
[10:47] <cpk2> Gibbster: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 pretty straightforward and easy to follow =)
[10:47] <canllaith> wijnand: They're not both enabled by default in dapper or edgy for me. Perhaps it's a bug.
[10:47] <Gibbster> cpk2: thanks ;-)
[10:48] <canllaith> babo: ls -R ?
[10:48] <cpk2> Gibbster: I was going through samba hell until I found that guide
[10:48] <mnepton> hmmm .... maybe i'll write up the jIRCii HOWTO for the wiki tonight.
[10:48] <johnnybezak> cpk2: man, getting samba started is such a pita
[10:48] <cpk2> johnnybezak: not with that how to =D
[10:49] <wijnand> canllaith: oh well :)
[10:49] <johnnybezak> cpk2: haha :)
[10:50] <ReverseBlade> babo, try ls -al
[10:51] <ReverseBlade> babo, sorry it wont work
[10:51] <babo> np
[10:51] <wijnand> babo try maybe `find` or `find .`
[10:52] <wijnand> or: find `pwd`
[10:52] <wijnand> (use ` and not ' !)
[10:54] <BeepAU> i'm trying to look at a website. it tells me i need macromedia flash 8 plugin, but i thought i already had that installed. could someone help me?
[10:54] <wijnand> BeepAU: are you sure you don't have flash player 7?
[10:55] <BeepAU> wijnand: well they aint windows files
[10:55] <wijnand> as far as i know there is no flash player 8 for linux at the moment
[10:56] <BeepAU> wijnand: i've got flashplugin-nonfree installed and basically every thing else in apt-get with macromedia in the title
[10:56] <ReverseBlade> BeepAU, you are out of luck
[10:56] <BeepAU> wijnand: does this mean i can't look at the website in linux? that's all there is to it?
[10:56] <ReverseBlade> BeepAU, I'll tell you
[10:57] <webwolf_27> is this anouther flash-player 8 thing
[10:57] <ReverseBlade> BeepAU, flash 8 is skipeed for linux. Flash 9 is alpha ready. I 've seen its screen shots. It is expected to be released in early 2007
[10:58] <babo> guys, I'm having problems compiling the kqemu module, it's telling me that it can't find the kernel includes. I've installed linux-kernel-devel but my /usr/src/linux/ folder is empty ...
[10:58] <babo> is that weird ?
[10:58] <ReverseBlade> BeepAU, for know you have several choices. 1 is, installing firefox (windows version) with wine, and install flash 9 on it. This way you can view the page
[10:58] <webwolf_27> babo: you need the kernel-headers package
[10:58] <wijnand> babo: /usr/src/linux should be a symlink to /usr/src/whatever where whatever is the actual directory with your kernel source
[10:58] <wijnand> babo: or listen to webwolf_27 :)
[10:59] <ReverseBlade> BeepAU, you can also install IE 6 on linux,
[10:59] <Zaggynl> ie4linux
[10:59] <johnnybezak> BeepAU: there's a flash 9 beta coming out soonish too i think
[10:59] <wijnand> ReverseBlade: ew?
[10:59] <Zaggynl> well hey, it's nice for testing website :<
[10:59] <ReverseBlade> babo, don't bother kqemu, use vmware , its perfect
[10:59] <Zaggynl> other then that, it's eww yeah
[10:59] <babo> wijnand: hmm ... I think I might have messed up then. I created another symlink and put it in /usr/src/linux by accident.
[10:59] <wijnand> ReverseBlade: doesn't that require a license that isn't exactly cheap?
[11:00] <ReverseBlade> google : ies4linux
[11:00] <babo> ReverseBlade: it's expensive ...
[11:00] <webwolf_27> ReverseBlade: nothing is ever perfect
[11:00] <ReverseBlade> no it is free
[11:00] <wijnand> vmware?
[11:00] <ReverseBlade> Beta version of vmware server is free
[11:00] <ReverseBlade> they reverted the license
[11:00] <ReverseBlade> search it from ubuntu forums.
[11:00] <babo> guys, where does the symlink in your /usr/src/linux,  dapper installl point to ?
[11:00] <wijnand> so as long as you stick with beta versions you're good?
[11:00] <babo> I don't want to get a nasty surprise when I boot up again ...
[11:01] <webwolf_27> ReverseBlade: I thought that was only the player
[11:01] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, I tried it. It installed winxp, flawlessly
[11:01] <ReverseBlade> It was used to. But also the server is free now
[11:01] <wijnand> babo: /usr/src/linux IS the symlink
[11:01] <babo> ReverseBlade: i've just installed winxp flawlessly with qemu ... for FREE ...
[11:01] <wijnand> ReverseBlade: sadly i have little use for windows :)
[11:01] <ReverseBlade> only if you want open source, qemu is an option
[11:01] <webwolf_27> ReverseBlade: interesting
[11:02] <babo> wijnand: yes, but what does it point to ?
[11:02] <ReverseBlade> vmware is superior than qemu, everyone admits that
[11:02] <jaakkos> mnepton: ah! Item: Exchange Front/Surround [Off]  <- this was on in alsamixer; turned it off, now sound works ;) didn't do it before because the option was kind of unclear and , and . were the keys to turn it on and off
[11:02] <wijnand> babo: i don't have kernel source installed so i don't have a symlink. it SHOULD point to /usr/src/linux-2.x.y or thereabouts
[11:02] <webwolf_27> ReverseBlade: is it opensource yet?
[11:02] <ReverseBlade> webwolf_27, which one ?
[11:03] <babo> ReverseBlade: only the crappier client thingy is free. I had a look at it a while back ...
[11:03] <webwolf_27> ReverseBlade: the beta vmware-server
[11:03] <ReverseBlade> babo, I am pretty sure vmware-server is free
[11:03] <ReverseBlade> webwolf_27, no it is not opensoruce
[11:03] <narci> it is?
[11:03] <Healot> free as in free beer it is
[11:03] <narci> heheh
[11:04] <ReverseBlade> it wasn't free but, for the last  6 months it is free I think
[11:04] <webwolf_27> ReverseBlade: I'll have to look at that
[11:04] <Healot> you will need to register for free key though for VMServer
[11:04] <babo> There isn't any headers package in the repos for 2.6.15-26-386 ... only for 2.4.x.x ...
[11:04] <narci> you guys done a dualboot onthinkpad t43?
[11:05] <webwolf_27> babo: yes there are, look through synaptic
[11:05] <ReverseBlade> "e:
[11:05] <ReverseBlade> VMWare has stated that VMWare Server will be a free product, just like VMWare player." ubuntu forums
[11:05] <Healot> dualboot on x86 machines is
[11:05] <Zaggynl> will be?
[11:05] <ReverseBlade> follow this thread for vmware . http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=vmware+xp
[11:05] <Healot> yeah, will be in multiverse section
[11:05] <Healot> i hope edgy will include vmserver
[11:06] <ReverseBlade> Healot, hardly ever
[11:06] <Zaggynl> this might help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=vmware
[11:06] <webwolf_27> ReverseBlade: on my way
[11:06] <Healot> nvm. can always download directly from vm's site
[11:06] <babo> arrghh ... looks like I already have the kernel headers and the devel-package ... Can someone tell me what I should do to point my kernel module in the direction of the headers then ?
[11:06] <ReverseBlade> babo, what exactly are you trying to do
[11:07] <babo> Maybe I should have a symlink in /usr/src/linux to the headers and then a symlink in the mod directory to /usr/src/linux ?
[11:07] <darkanyel> why my icons theme doesn't appear in xgl session'''
[11:07] <babo> ReverseBlade: compile the kqemu accelorator ...
[11:07] <johnnybezak> darkanyel: restart x
[11:07] <darkanyel> i do that
[11:07] <ReverseBlade> babo, are you just adventurous ? vmware is the easy way
[11:08] <darkanyel> but still the same
[11:08] <darkanyel> i install egdy too
[11:08] <ReverseBlade> but I appreciate qemu
[11:08] <blazemonger> the art manager in dapper now crashes when i select the icon themes
[11:08] <ReverseBlade> it longly served to linux community and sure it will in the future
[11:08] <jojoman02> if i make a script can i make it show (in terminal) even if the users hits run instead of run in terminal?
[11:09] <babo> ReverseBlade: vmware is licensed ...
[11:09] <ReverseBlade> babo, it is free, read the above
[11:09] <johnnybezak> jojoman02: make it run in the terminal by opening the term at start fo script
[11:09] <bbt> are there any repos with xorg 7.1 for dapper ?
[11:09] <blazemonger> anyone want to load the art manager and select icon?
[11:09] <blazemonger> it's been crashing on me
[11:09] <jojoman02> johnnybezak: how do i do that?
[11:09] <babo> anyone have any idea where the kernel headers are installed ?
[11:09] <babo> how I can link to them ?
[11:10] <babo> I've searched, but can only find them in the docs ... and in .list files ...
[11:10] <darkanyel> i mean, i installed edgy and in the xgl sesion my theme does not apear, but in the normal session it does!
[11:10] <jojoman02> johnnybezak: are you talking about teh shebang?
[11:10] <johnnybezak> jojoman02: just do a gnome-terminal or xterm at the start of your script
[11:10] <johnnybezak> jojoman02: what>?
[11:10] <Zaggynl> babo, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=8907115
[11:10] <MentalManja> hi all
[11:11] <jojoman02> johnnybezak: that is how i did it, but my script does something after i do that, which is dependant on another script being launched (in the middle)
[11:11] <MentalManja> can anyone tell where i can get eclipse package for ubuntu?
[11:11] <jojoman02> so i need the same terminal window to be shown not a new terminal spawned b/c then my original script finishes and then craps out...
[11:11] <MentalManja> deb package
[11:11] <MentalManja> ?
[11:11] <johnnybezak> jojoman02: haha what?
[11:11] <SPF> babo: /usr/src/kernel-headers
[11:12] <ReverseBlade> jojoman02, posting a thread may work in ubuntu programming forums. If you can't find an answer here
[11:12] <babo> SPF: yes, I've just tried that, but it's empty ...
[11:13] <babo> SPF: there's nothing at all in /usr/src
[11:13] <SPF> you can also use find -name linux.h /
[11:13] <jojoman02> johnnybezak: it's like this, 1. load script (./script.sh) then 2.delete script and some other files      (if i run the script in by launching another term the script will move on to step 2 which will mess up ./script.sh and dependant files)
[11:14] <MentalManja> anyone please ......
[11:14] <ReverseBlade> jojoman02, have you checked, man gnome-terminal
[11:14] <ReverseBlade> I think the answer is there
[11:14] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, 3.1 is in repos
[11:15] <MentalManja> url please
[11:15] <MentalManja> i searched in debian.org
[11:15] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, just look at in the synaptic
[11:15] <SPF> babo: find / -name linux.h
[11:15] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, I strongly recommend to download it from eclipse.org
[11:15] <champ> is there a tutorial how to install cedega in ubuntu?
[11:15] <MentalManja> no i dont have an internet connection
[11:15] <champ> i cant get it to run pls help ^^
[11:15] <MentalManja> have to download and then install it
[11:16] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, download it , burn it on a CD then install it. It's easy. Don't bother with packages for eclipse
[11:16] <[matrix] ubu_dapp> hi all
[11:16] <babo> I've uninstalled and reinstalled the linux-headers and yet /usr/src/ is still empty ...
[11:16] <pschulz> hi. can anybody tell me why there is a dependecy between postfix and emacs when i install postfix?
[11:17] <[h] tony|afk> moin
[11:17] <wijnand> babo: don't install kernel-headers but linux-headers
[11:18] <wijnand> and linux-image
[11:18] <mnepton> pschulz: there isn't, at least not on Dapper
[11:18] <jojoman02> how do i make a command in a script spit out all it's normal info?
[11:18] <jojoman02> to the term?
[11:19] <ReverseBlade> jojoman02, have you checked man gnome-terminal ?
[11:19] <pschulz> menpton: That's for sure?
[11:19] <jojoman02> ReverseBlade: yes
[11:19] <MentalManja> ReverseBlade:can you tell me the url where i can get it from
[11:19] <gneral> hi
[11:20] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, you mean eclipse ?  url : eclipse.org
[11:20] <SPF> babo: and find didnt turn up anything?
[11:20] <ReverseBlade> jojoman02, and you still get nothing ?
[11:20] <MentalManja> no i see many downloads in that donno which one for ubuntu
[11:20] <xen0n> uhm
[11:20] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, why do you want to install eclipse anyway?
[11:21] <MentalManja> for java
[11:21] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, let me check
[11:21] <xen0n> i got a problem.. i can't find my wireless network card. it disapeard
[11:21] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, may I ask why java, and why eclipse ?
[11:21] <SPF> babo: find / -name *linux.h
[11:22] <SPF> forgot the "*"
[11:22] <babo> SPF: OK cool thanks ...
[11:22] <babo> I've found them...
[11:22] <MentalManja> I want to work on java  so I needed that eclipse IDE
[11:22] <wijnand> Eclipse is good stuff. I use it as my LaTeX editor
[11:22] <[matrix] ubu_dapp> could anybody help me wiht xgl
[11:22] <babo> big/little test failed ?
[11:22] <MentalManja> in this link http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2.1-200609210945/
[11:22] <[matrix] ubu_dapp> i need some help
[11:23] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, when you go to http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ there's a single huge link for linux at the middle of screen which is a tar.gz file , you have to dowload that one
[11:23] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, for java development netbeans is better nowadays
[11:23] <wijnand> MentalManja: if you don't mind that eclipse is a version behind, it's in ubuntu's repositories as well
[11:23] <[matrix] ubu_dapp> ehm ok thnx
[11:24] <wijnand> ReverseBlade: oh well :) who does java development anyway ;)
[11:24] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, I told hi
[11:24] <MentalManja> wijnand: can you give me the url?
[11:24] <xen0n> i got a problem.. i can't find my wireless network card. it disapeard
[11:24] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, a lot legacy developers but only legacy ones
[11:24] <babo> I'm guessing the big/little thing has something to do with it being a 686 ...
[11:24] <MentalManja> ReverseBlade:that link is for windows
[11:25] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, are you in windows now
[11:25] <MentalManja> hmm yes
[11:25] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, that's the reason. When you get that page from linux that link is for linux, wait a second
[11:25] <MentalManja> so can you copy and paste that link here
[11:25] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja, http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2.1-200609210945/eclipse-SDK-3.2.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[11:26] <ReverseBlade> go the above it will do it
[11:26] <MentalManja> ReverseBlade:ok thanks a lot
[11:26] <ReverseBlade> yw
[11:26] <MentalManja> and one more thing which library should i get to play mp3 on my  ubuntu?
[11:26] <digger3> I am looking for a workaround for the X server ignoring any keyboard, but after restarting it (by use of the mouse) it works fine, the output of my keyboard appears at the root console upstart spawns at every boot, any fix for this?
[11:27] <ReverseBlade> MentalManja,  google: automatix
[11:27] <xen0n> MentalManja: gstream ?
[11:27] <MentalManja> no i found some in debian library section
[11:28] <SPF> MentalManja: mpg123
[11:28] <MentalManja> hoo ok thanks
[11:30] <johnnybezak> gjt
[11:30] <foureight84> hello
[11:30] <foureight84> how do i associate an icon with a filetype?
[11:31] <ReverseBlade> foureight84, what do you mean ?
[11:32] <foureight84> i have serveral chm files which shows up as default gnome icon. i want to associate .chm files with an icon file i have
[11:32] <ReverseBlade> foureight84, I see. It's just for eyecandy
[11:32] <foureight84> yea
[11:33] <BruFFy> hello
[11:33] <foureight84> is there like a config file i can edit to point it to that icon?
[11:33] <narci> fouraight84 i think alot of settings is done through nautilus
[11:33] <DireFog> hello... does someone know how the xorg.conf is generated? I need to set a default keyboard config including a variant without running the proper installer (I'm installing from FAI)
[11:34] <BruFFy> i'm new with linux and i need some help... sombody got some time for me?
[11:34] <creator79> mnepton: okay, I see there is no direct dependecy to emacs, but the suggested dependecys show mail-reader and therefore emacs is used
[11:34] <narci> direfrog look in the xorg.conf file. it says how to some rows down
[11:34] <susscorfa> BruFFy: just ask your question and look if some one knwos the awnser
[11:34] <narci> in the dile
[11:35] <foureight84> narci, how do i access nautilus's config to do that?
[11:35] <narci> file*
[11:35] <DireFog> narci: thanks... and yay for blindness.
[11:35] <cpk2> !ask
[11:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:35] <BruFFy> i'm trying to understand how the file managment works
[11:35] <BruFFy> i want to install some programs but i'm not sure where i need to place them
[11:35] <narci> foureight84 look around in the nautilus file browser menus
[11:36] <foureight84> ok
[11:36] <wijnand> BruFFy: you want to install them manually?
[11:36] <wijnand> because you shouldn't :)
[11:36] <ReverseBlade> BruFFy, normally you could install them under /opt
[11:36] <susscorfa> most programs can be instaled from repositrys which is far easyer
[11:36] <[h] tony|afk> brb
[11:36] <BruFFy> couldnt find ecliplse in package manager
[11:36] <ReverseBlade> BruFFy, an older convention recommends installing them to /usr/local/bin
[11:36] <foureight84> narci, i don't see any option for that sorta thing
[11:37] <BruFFy> like c/program files
[11:37] <BruFFy> ic
[11:37] <narci> !currenttime
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about currenttime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <ReverseBlade> BruFFy, do not think of it like windows. These folders have nothing special but convention. After installtion you could make a sym link  to /usr/bin and it will be accessible else where
[11:37] <narci> whats the time right now? in berlin timezone?
[11:37] <[matrix] ubu_dapp> ehm...
[11:37] <cpk2> !info eclipse
[11:37] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[11:38] <[matrix] ubu_dapp>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[11:38] <ReverseBlade> BruFFy, if you are the only user (and will be in the future) I would recommend installing them in to your home folder
[11:38] <DireFog> narci: 11:38
[11:38] <wijnand> ReverseBlade: i installed eclipse in /usr/local and to my surprise noticed it wasn't user writeable
[11:38] <narci> thx
[11:38] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, yes, and there should be no need to theoretically
[11:39] <DireFog> anyway, it seems that the manpage "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" is kind of a bad naming convention :-/ man opens the file instead.
[11:39] <Somebody_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMqWUBpbx18
[11:39] <ReverseBlade> wijnand, but I admit I had some problems with that  while developing an RCP application. Though who cares of RCP these days
[11:40] <BruFFy> damn got some rights problems
[11:40] <ReverseBlade> DireFog, no, try  man Xorg.conf
[11:42] <DireFog> ReverseBlade: that doesn't help much... I'm now looking for the debconf values that dexconf is supposed to use for generating the file.
[11:42] <ReverseBlade> DireFog, all I can say, man works like file viewer when you give it full path , and you can access the docs for Xorg, by the above command.
[11:43] <cas> Hi, my X won't start again and it's hard to find the reason why but I think it's due my driver (i810). Does anyone knows a alternate driver for this or a way to regenerate the xorg.conf?
[11:43] <DireFog> ah, got something... might actually be a useful error message for once.
[11:43] <cfm> Hi, I'm trying to configure my 6.10-Server machine to shut down when the power button is pressed.  I believe kacpid is the process that would handle that?  If so, how do I configure it?
[11:44] <tuqann> Any ideas how to connect wirelessly in the text mode (ubuntu alternate cd)? I want to try and get apt-get to work
[11:44] <ReverseBlade> cas, was it working earlier ?, what error do you get and have you investigated your /var/log/Xorg.log.0 ?
[11:44] <Newbi8> Greetings!Could someone help me get DVD-playback?I'm new to the system and have read all the documentation recomended, but still I'm lost!
[11:44] <graveson> i notice one of the topics is an issue with a security update. i just download a update via update manager.should i be concerned. Also is there a different IRC room for edgy ?
[11:44] <ReverseBlade> cfm, they are all in some scripts, type locate lid.sh, or hibernate.sh
[11:45] <ReverseBlade> Newbi8, google: automatix, install it and it will do the job
[11:45] <cfm> ReverseBlade: Thanks, will check.
[11:45] <cas> ReverseBlade: I upgraded to edgy so it can be many things. currently I just want my X back to figure out what's wrong :)
[11:45] <ReverseBlade> graveson, #ubuntu+1
[11:46] <cas> ReverseBlade: in the log I found many warnings but the it killed because of some driver problems
[11:46] <ReverseBlade> cas, I see, but you should be able to get back to console no matter what happens . Tried CTRL F2 ?
[11:46] <cfm> ReverseBlade: Neither of those files are present.  Might I be missing a package?
[11:46] <Maxter> cas: i resolved purging xorg and then reinstalling it
[11:47] <ReverseBlade> cfm hangon
[11:47] <Egyptooo> ubutu, thanks for the link, my display card drivers are installed the right way now:)
[11:47] <cas> Maxter: how can I do that? since there are so many xorg packages I don't know which one to remove
[11:48] <tuqann> ummm, can someone help me
[11:48] <Egyptooo> but i am having a weird new problem, i get a Floating point exception error when i try to run opera, anyone can tell me how to know the cause?
[11:48] <Maxter> apt-get remove --purge xserver*
[11:49] <ReverseBlade> cas  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:49] <ReverseBlade> cfm , they should be /etc/acpi/
[11:49] <cas> ReverseBlade: tnx
[11:50] <keltorsori> can anyone help with how i might open up port 5038 on an xubuntu install?
[11:50] <Egyptooo> hmmm...its not just opera, kdetv is giving me the same Floating point exception error when starting up
[11:50] <cfm> ReverseBlade: Unfortunately not.  I'm guessing they don't get installed with the base system?  Am trying to find which package they live in...
[11:50] <|fluxdud|> hi, what do you guys use for irc clients on linux? I haven't found one as good as mIRC on windows, they all seem a bit annoying. opinions welcome.
[11:51] <DarkMageZ> |fluxdud|, i use xchat
[11:51] <tuqann> can anyone actually read this???
[11:51] <keltorsori> tuqann: yep
[11:51] <DarkMageZ> tuqann, no
[11:51] <jojoman02> tuqann: yes...
[11:52] <dakkar> I need to know how the kernel on 6.06 was compiled... where should I look? (apart from actually booting from the CD and looking at /proc/config.gz)
[11:52] <cas> ReverseBlade: works again :D
[11:53] <tuqann> damn, my ping must me like a hour!
[11:53] <ReverseBlade> cas yw
[11:53] <tuqann> just a quick question, I understand that Ubuntu dapper has ipw2200 supported out of the box
[11:54] <tuqann> is it the same for the alternate installation CD?
[11:54] <Gibbster> cpk2: It worked! Thanks a bunch!
[11:54] <DarkMageZ> tuqann, yes it is
[11:54] <cpk2> Gibbster: I didnt right that article =)
[11:54] <cpk2> write even!
[11:54] <wijnand> ipw2200 works great
[11:54] <tuqann> and if yes, how can I check my wireless connection status and/or configure it, like IP or proxy
[11:54] <creator79> Again. Can anybody tell me why there is a dependecy between postfix and emacs when i install postfix?
[11:54] <wijnand> tuqann have you tried installing the network manager?
[11:54] <tuqann> \ping me
[11:54] <Gibbster> cpk2: Well. I wouldn't have known about it without you ;-)
[11:54] <cfm> Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree.  Should I be using apm instead?  Or something else?
[11:55] <DarkMageZ> tuqann, try system > administration > networking maybe?
[11:55] <cpk2> Gibbster: thats a really well done article though huh? =D
[11:55] <jojoman02> tuqann: they are exactly the same (afaik) except for the method of installation
[11:55] <mkulke> i have a problem with my laptop based atheros wifi card. the modules are loaded correctly it seems but there is wlan entry shown when running iwconfig. can anyone help me with that?
[11:55] <cfm> The ACPI packages I can find at packages.ubuntu.com don't include any /etc/acpi configs.
[11:55] <ReverseBlade> cfm, you should have somethin in that file
[11:55] <jojoman02> tuqann: when i say the same i mean package/compat wise...
[11:55] <creator79> It seems not to be a direct dependency but looks like there is some to mew or what ever
[11:55] <ReverseBlade> cfm, file => dir
[11:55] <Gibbster> cpk2: Yes, very clear, and gets to a working solution quickly. We need more of that
[11:55] <Shufla> hello. I've got ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1, which shares memory to RAM on Fujitsu Siemens Amilo A-2000. It's working only with "vesa" driver; with "ati" Xorg lock all system (even ping do not response), "fglrx" driver says "no device found". any clues? it's fresh dapper
[11:56] <cfm> ReverseBlade: That directory doesn't exist.
[11:56] <tuqann> here is the problem, I CAN'T INSTALL ANYTHING WITH APT-GET cuz I don't have a connection
[11:56] <tuqann> I mean, my connection is either wireless or heavly firewalled
[11:56] <Gibbster> cpk2: I find that the simple stuff is always the hardest. The complex stuff is easy
[11:56] <johnnybezak> tuqann: can you browse?
[11:56] <creator79> But the installation via aptitude install postfix also installed emacs and i don't know why.
[11:56] <mjr> Shufla, try "radeon" though I'm not sure the shared memory radeons are well supported (at least express isn't)
[11:56] <cfm> ReverseBlade: I do have an /etc/apm directory, but all the files are zero bytes.
[11:56] <tuqann> only on XP
[11:56] <cpk2> Gibbster: well you *can* get very complicated with samba
[11:57] <linuxboy> does anybody have a debmirror config file for mirroring ubuntu?
[11:57] <tuqann> well, I don't even know if I'm connected in ubuntu (I'm only in the commandprompt mode, my xserver is screwed and I'm trying to fix that!)
[11:57] <johnnybezak> tuqann: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:57] <Zake> anyone here ever switched from gentoo to ubuntu?
[11:57] <wrabbit^> anybody know how to merge partitions using cfdisk?
[11:57] <Gibbster> cpk2: I'm not sure why you'd want to ;-)
[11:57] <Shufla> mjr: system locked up totally, same as with "ati" :/
[11:57] <johnnybezak> tuqann: just d/l them, then dpkg -i them
[11:57] <tuqann> cfm: apt??
[11:58] <damotor> I have a mobile with a radeon 9700 and dapper, I installed the official ati drivers but I only get 700 frames in glxgears, what can I do?
[11:58] <tuqann> johnnybezak: packages.ubuntu.com???? as in http download on XP then manually install?
[11:58] <Shufla> and such card is supported  :(
[11:58] <johnnybezak> tuqann: yo
[11:58] <cfm> tuqann: No, apm - Advanced Power Management
[11:58] <johnnybezak> tuqann: put em on a cd/usb then manually install them on your ubuntu sys
[11:58] <ReverseBlade> cfm install acpi and acpid and acpi-support
[11:58] <cfm> ReverseBlade: Will do, thanks.
[11:59] <Zake> is it dangerous to install one or two packages from edgy onto a dapper system?
[11:59] <johnnybezak> Zake: yep, it'll prolly break stuff
[11:59] <tuqann> manually, okay, I have downloaded for instant the ati x700 driver for ubuntu, it's on a FAT32 driver
[11:59] <johnnybezak> Zake: depends what they are
[11:59] <Zake> johnnybezak: ejabberd
[12:00] <tuqann> I'll get downloads, but how to I install manually?
[12:00] <johnnybezak> Zake: whats that, what are the deps?
[12:00] <tuqann> maan, my typos are horrible!!! (new jacket makes it hard to type!??)
[12:00] <johnnybezak> haha take your jacket off
[12:01] <tuqann> it's cooold :P
[12:01] <tuqann> maaan! again!
[12:01] <wrabbit^> does anybody know how to merge partitions using cfdisk?
[12:02] <ReverseBlade> wrabbit^, you can use mount , to mount one to another
[12:02] <cfm> ReverseBlade: That worked, many thanks!
[12:02] <tuqann> okay, so let me run what I got so far
[12:02] <kinema> Is there any chance of there being a better/faster way to download a (k)ubuntu iso besides directly via HTTP or using torrent.ubuntu.com?  Currently I'm looking at more the a two hour wait seen as I the seeds can't seem to muster more then ~80kB/s.
[12:02] <ReverseBlade> cfm, your  welcome
[12:02] <mkulke> i have a problem with my laptop based atheros wifi card. the modules are loaded correctly it seems but there is wlan entry shown when running iwconfig. can anyone help me with that?
[12:02] <bionoid> Shufla: try setting the driver to radeon and add a ChipID 0x5157  -- if that fails, try ChipID 0x4c59 or check out /usr/src/linux/video/radeon* and see if you find something that matches your card
[12:02] <johnnybezak> kinema: get the http one then
[12:02] <Gibbster> does anyone here have any experience with ubuntu + lvm?
[12:03] <ReverseBlade> kinema, that is not really a problem
[12:03] <kinema> johnnybezak: It's 80k either way.
[12:03] <tuqann> if I can get my xserver to run, I can later fix my wireless with the control pane
[12:03] <kinema> ReverseBlade: I'm glad to hear that.
[12:03] <wrabbit^> ReverseBlade: So if I want hda6 to join hda1 I just type, "mount hda6"?
[12:03] <tuqann> I have ati drivers (~55mb), can I just try to install this manually?
[12:03] <zim> hi all
[12:03] <wrabbit^> sorry, kinda new to command line partitioning
[12:04] <johnnybezak> tuqann: did you get them from the ati web site?
[12:04] <ReverseBlade> wrabbit^, I would recommend reading  man mount but the usual procedure is like this
[12:04] <wrabbit^> ReverseBlade, Will do, thanks
[12:04] <bionoid> Shufla: or try the gatos.sourceforge.net drivers
[12:04] <tuqann> not sure, there was a forum post on ubuntuforums.org with a link, I just got it from there
[12:04] <zim> how do we start compiz now i used to use a script called thefuture but a friend said you don do that now
[12:04] <ReverseBlade> wrabbit^, you create a folder then you say , mount options /dev/hda  your_folder
[12:04] <tuqann> filename: "ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run"
[12:05] <Shufla> bionoid: ChipID shall be here? (it do now work) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27073/
[12:05] <zim> i have just apt-get install xgl compiz (now what)
[12:05] <cfm> ReverseBlade: Ah, heh, now my system isn't booting any more ;-)
[12:06] <ReverseBlade> cfm, even not in safe mode ?
[12:06] <ReverseBlade> cfm, have you tried hitting ctrl F2 ?
[12:06] <bionoid> Shufla: What? does it work, or not? -- it's not required but may help if autodetection fails. I'm not sure for your exact board, though
[12:06] <zim> is there anyone out there who has xgl/compiz working
[12:06] <Shufla> bionoid: huh, ChipID w/o "" :D
[12:06] <ReverseBlade> zim, I did
[12:07] <Shufla> bionoid: died :(
[12:07] <zim> what do you use to start it now
[12:07] <cfm> ReverseBlade: It's in a rack, I'm going to have to pull it out before I can see what's gone wrong.  bbiab.
[12:07] <DarkMageZ> zim, please goto #ubuntu-xgl
[12:07] <Shufla> bionoid: I'll try gatos
[12:07] <zim> ty will do
[12:07] <ReverseBlade> cfm I donT get it
[12:07] <Amaranth> There.
[12:07] <ReverseBlade> zim, search it in wiki ubuntu or forums, there are huge amout of docs and tutorials there
[12:08] <Khamael> does every version of the nvidia drivers have a security problem?
[12:08] <cfm> No, me neither.  The acpi package must be conflicting with something, I guess
[12:08] <johnnybezak> Khamael: closed source what can you say
[12:08] <ReverseBlade> cfm, safe mode not working ?
[12:09] <Amaranth> Khamael: Supposedly the problem is fixed in the 9625 beta drivers but those only work on edgy (6.10 Beta) and don't work for a lot of people.
[12:09] <ReverseBlade> cfm, could be related to your bios  or setup also
[12:09] <cfm> Until I've got it hooked up to screen and keyboard, I just don't know!
[12:09] <Khamael> Amaranth: I use the nvidia beta drivers with dapper
[12:10] <tuqann> johnnybezak: filename: "ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run" from a link on a ubuntuforums.org tutorial post
[12:10] <johnnybezak> tuqann: have a go, whats the worst that could happen :)
[12:10] <Amaranth> Khamael: Really? They are supposed to have incompatible driver ABI's
[12:10] <Shufla> thanks, bye :)
[12:11] <rpedro> can anyone explain to me what this command does, I found it in my bash history, so I'm wondering if this system is compromised or if there is some explanation: PROMPT_COMMAND='pwd>&7;kill -STOP $$'
[12:11] <Khamael> gtg
[12:11] <momal> Can anyone recommend to me a good program that I can see what speed programs are using (eg copying from the net) and able to restrict to how much speed it can use (similar program on windows would be Du super Controler)
[12:11] <treb0r> could somebody tell me how to access the password keychain in gnome?
[12:12] <tuqann> johnnybezak: well do, the moment I know how to manually install drivers in commandline prompt
[12:12] <cfm> rpedro: http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:BRfHUBQpnKkJ:boudicca.tux.org/mhonarc/ma-linux/2001-Jan/msg00589.html+PROMPT_COMMAND+pwd+kill+STOP&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1
[12:13] <nvl> anyone want to help me with trafficshapeing, tried wondershaper, it doesn't do the trick
[12:14] <rpedro> cfm: thanks
[12:16] <cfm> rpedro: Google seems to think it's related to the Midnight Commander app (mc) - have you run that recently?
[12:16] <rpedro> cfm: yes
[12:16] <cfm> :-)
[12:18] <rpedro> cfm: I wsa getting a bit paranoid, ;-) chkrootkit also said I had a trojan (LKM), but that seems to be something else too :) some incompatability to chkrootkit in certain kernel versions
[12:19] <cfm> rpedro: When running UNIX, paranoia is good ;-)
[12:22] <vanhtu1987> hydro: I best way I knew of is to compile the package yourself and turn it into the debian package by checkinstall, for example
[12:22] <tuqann> Any idea how to manually install ati drivers (already downloaded to disk)
[12:22] <nightfreak> how can i convert the character set of files recursively?
[12:23] <cfm> ReverseBlade: Hmm, out of the rack and onto screen and keyboard, and now it boots fine.  I think it's just playing with me...
[12:23] <ubuntu> is posible to install zahoo messenger_
[12:24] <Overand> heh... zahoo
[12:27] <tuqann> johnnybezak: can't find useful info on how to install something manually that I downloaded. any ideas how to? or maybe direct me where to search?
[12:27] <gilgamesh> hi 2 all
[12:29] <tuqann> ahhh, I'll just try whatever I have now
[12:31] <rus> oi mates
[12:31] <rus> got trouble installing
[12:32] <rus>  ive got this 2 k6 oldies and I cant install on either, the installation of the base system stops half way done
[12:33] <vanhtu1987> Hi, I'm using a wide-screen monitor (16:10 - 1280x800), the max resolution I can pass to the kernel at boot time is 792, anyone know how to tell vesafb to run at 1280x800 ?.
[12:34] <nightfreak> is there a programm that helps converting projects to utf-8?
[12:34] <mjr> what do you mean "projects"
[12:34] <Amaranth> vanhtu1987: You can't, as far as I know.
[12:35] <Amaranth> vanhtu1987: The highest resolution you can make it go to with vga= is 1024x768
[12:35] <Overand> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267385&highlight=framebuffer - discussion about using a different kernel module for it
[12:35] <rus> its says unable to install some packages
[12:35] <rus> tried different boot options
[12:36] <vanhtu1987> I'd be happy to recompile the kernel for my nvidia-based chipset, but I tried once, and it screwed up my monitor. It worked fine for my desktop with ATI card however (1280x1024)
[12:36] <Amaranth> rus: Did you run the cd integrity check thing?
[12:36] <rus> yep
[12:36] <Overand> vanhtu1987: you'd need to recompile and then specify the resolution, but... messed up your monitor as in actually broke?
[12:36] <Overand> that's not very common these days
[12:36] <rus> Amarath: cd and memory tests went fine
[12:36] <Amaranth> vanhtu1987: You're saying you can't get X to use 1280x800 either?
[12:37] <Amaranth> rus: I dunno then.
[12:37] <gilgamesh> i'm planning to make a new ubuntu derivative...
[12:37] <rus> Amarath: Is there a k6 issue or something? got 128 ram is that a prob?
[12:38] <vanhtu1987> Overand: I meant the resolution I got when using nvidiafb is incorrect (it should be 1280x800, but it wasnn't, the ratio is also incorrect).
[12:38] <vanhtu1987> Amaranth: X worked just fine at 1280x800.
[12:38] <gilgamesh> using the mezzo desktop environment and some issues of symphony os, what do u think?
[12:38] <ReverseBlade> cfm, glad to hear that. I do now wish that you were in trouble because of my advices
[12:38] <Amaranth> gilgamesh: Step 1 is making packages for all of that stuff
[12:38] <Overand> vanhtu1987: not sure what to suggest, and now i have to sleep.  good luck
[12:39] <Amaranth> rus: I dunno, the oldest machine I've ever installed on was a Duron with 512MB RAM
[12:39] <Merjin> can anyone tell me what min.required ram for ubuntu 6?
[12:39] <vanhtu1987> Overand: Ok, thanks anyway. I looked at svgalib but it didn't seem to support 180x800
[12:39] <ReverseBlade> Merjin, 128 mb will do
[12:39] <onurx> there is a project "easy ubuntu" or smt like that? what is it called?I cant find it with google
[12:39] <gilgamesh> the most easy form is using the ubuntu customization kit?
[12:39] <cfm> ReverseBlade: Oh, gosh no.  People have got to take full responsibility for running things, even given advice!
[12:39] <Merjin> ReverseBlade > thanks, and the recommended amount?
[12:39] <ReverseBlade> Merjin, if you have ram constrains go for Xubuntu instead of ubuntu
[12:39] <Amaranth> Merjin: The max is 4GB on x86 (limits of the architecture), the min for 6.06 is probably 256MB
[12:39] <tuqann> hi, need help with connecting to internet (wireless/ether) in prompt mode (xserver isn't setup, pending drivers and apt-get to work!)
[12:39] <Merjin> k, I'll set it to 256mb then
[12:40] <Amaranth> Merjin: My min is the recommended amount
[12:40] <ReverseBlade> Merjin, this is not windows, but I wouldn'T use it below 512 in anyway
[12:40] <Amaranth> Merjin: But you really don't want any less. :P
[12:40] <vanhtu1987> tuqann: What is your wireless chipset ?.
[12:40] <ReverseBlade> tuqann, what is wrong with connecton ?
[12:40] <ReverseBlade> tuqann, can you ping say google ?
[12:41] <gilgamesh> Amaranth: cool there is deb package for the mezzo de
[12:41] <tuqann> I'm on a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M1437G
[12:41] <tuqann> it's inter PRO/wireless
[12:41] <ReverseBlade> tuqann, can you ping your router
[12:41] <tuqann> 2200BG
[12:41] <Amaranth> gilgamesh: In Ubuntu's repos?
[12:42] <gilgamesh> Amaranth:no
[12:42] <tuqann> I'm on XP right now, and I'm on a free wireless spot, there is no support here, so I don't have a clue what's my router to ping
[12:42] <deamon_> vanhtu1987: you must install the driver for your graphic video
[12:42] <gilgamesh> Amaranth:but i have a how to  its easy...
[12:42] <ReverseBlade> tuqann, you should be able to see the default router
[12:42] <Amaranth> gilgamesh: You can't just dump a .deb file in the repos, you put a source package in and it automatically builds .deb packages for x86, x86-64, and ppc.
[12:43] <Amaranth> gilgamesh: checkinstall is not the right way to do it either :P
[12:43] <dakkar> argh. I have a new server to install, should put ubuntu on it... but the kernel locks up. debian sarge boots ok, but does not recognize the SATA controller. Gentoo works perfectly
[12:44] <cfm> tuqann: If all else fails, tracert a website - the first IP address is probably the router.
[12:44] <vanhtu1987> deamon_: I'm running in console mode with a nvidia card, the kernel should automatically have support for it, but if I tried to compile the nvidiafb into the kernel. It ran at the wrong resolution, it worked fine for vga=792 with vesafb though.
[12:44] <tuqann> cfm: I don't know if I'm actualy connected when I'm in the prompt mode
[12:45] <tuqann> cfm: on a different network (LAN cable) I tried to ping the router and it failed
[12:45] <Zaggynl> Anyone succeeded in playing duke3d? I succesfully compiled it, but it won't run, it stops with 'Board not found'
[12:45] <ReverseBlade> tuqann, just write this "ping www.google.com"
[12:45] <tuqann> cfm: should I enable something, throw a command to make the prompt connect
[12:46] <gilgamesh> Amaranth:Must I package it to a ubuntu repository? it is in another repository yet
[12:46] <vanhtu1987> tuqann: try 'ping google.com', did it spit out some info ?
[12:46] <tuqann> IReverseBlade: Already did, I get "Unknown host cannot be reached"
[12:46] <ReverseBlade> tuqann, allright then now type  sudo ifconfig
[12:47] <ReverseBlade> tuqann, observe that if you get an ip address and ip address of arouter
[12:47] <tuqann> k, I'm gonna have to reboot, I'm working on CP
[12:47] <tuqann> *XP
[12:47] <tuqann> brb
[12:47] <vanhtu1987> tuqann: Are you having the ipw2200 daemon running already ?
[12:47] <parkour_druid> hello people
[12:47] <ReverseBlade> vanhtu1987, worthless, the guy doesn't seek help really
[12:47] <Amaranth> gilgamesh: All the other Ubuntu derivatives have their stuff in Ubuntu's repos
[12:47] <parkour_druid> i have a question about ubuntu
[12:47] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, !ask
[12:47] <parkour_druid> i have a question about ubuntu
[12:47] <parkour_druid> i have a question about ubuntu
[12:48] <parkour_druid> i have a question about ubuntu
[12:48] <Amaranth> gilgamesh: I don't know if the CD building tools need it to be that way or if it just makes things easier or what
[12:48] <parkour_druid> where do i get vlc player for ubuntu?
[12:48] <parkour_druid> what link
[12:48] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, should be in synaptic
[12:48] <gilgamesh> Amaranth:ok
[12:48] <parkour_druid> im a beginer
[12:48] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, repos, if not, you can install it via automatix
[12:48] <parkour_druid> with ubuntu
[12:48] <parkour_druid> how?
[12:48] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, google :automatix
[12:48] <parkour_druid> by terminal?
[12:49] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, in command sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:49] <parkour_druid> i did that
[12:49] <ReverseBlade> so ?
[12:49] <parkour_druid> and nothing happened
[12:49] <ReverseBlade> then type vlc
[12:49] <parkour_druid> il will try now
[12:49] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, how nothing happend, either it installs or it fails
[12:49] <vanhtu1987> parkour_druid: It didn't even ask you for your password ?
[12:50] <parkour_druid> yes it did
[12:50] <ReverseBlade> why do you need VLC ?
[12:50] <parkour_druid> i want to see movies
[12:50] <gilgamesh> here is the how to set up mezzo desktop on ubuntu if you want to read it http://fak3r.com/?p=44
[12:50] <parkour_druid> and listen to mp3
[12:50] <ReverseBlade> VLC is an excellent player, but there are other alternatives
[12:50] <parkour_druid> like what?
[12:50] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, just google automatix
[12:50] <parkour_druid> and how do i get it?
[12:50] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, like totem
[12:50] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, wait a bit
[12:50] <parkour_druid> okey
[12:51] <gilgamesh> parkour_druid: like xmms or beep media player too
[12:51] <vanhtu1987> parkour_druid: perhaps mplayer is a better candidate IMO, it can play DVD and support for multiple output modes (play videos through the framebuffer in a console for ex.)
[12:51] <parkour_druid> yes i understand
[12:51] <davvs> when i try to "sudo ifconfig eth0 up", i get a error saying "SCOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory". how do i fix this?
[12:51] <parkour_druid> but ho do i get this player
[12:52] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, go to here
[12:52] <davvs> SIOCSIFFLAGS i mean
[12:52] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=38
[12:52] <vanhtu1987> #apt-get install mplayer     should work
[12:52] <parkour_druid> thank you:*
[12:52] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, the section called installingon (k,x) ubuntu 6.06 i386
[12:53] <parkour_druid> and i have another question
[12:53] <parkour_druid> why when i open mozilla firefox
[12:53] <ReverseBlade> or installing automatix2 with apt
[12:53] <parkour_druid> and open some links
[12:53] <parkour_druid> it blockes
[12:54] <parkour_druid> why?
[12:54] <wrabbit^> why
[12:54] <wrabbit^> didn't you
[12:54] <wrabbit^> write
[12:54] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, how do you acknowledge that it is blocked
[12:54] <wrabbit^> the question on
[12:54] <wrabbit^> one line?
[12:54] <parkour_druid> when he blockes
[12:54] <parkour_druid> the hole computer
[12:54] <parkour_druid> blockes
[12:54] <wrabbit^> lol
[12:54] <gilgamesh> I think to call it Symphonybuntu
[12:54] <parkour_druid> i can not do anything
[12:54] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, just write all in one line please
[12:54] <ogamiitto> i have problems configuring ubuntu server 64 on a dell dimension c521, ubuntu recognices the broadcom 4400 interface, but it fails quering dhcp server or stablishing routes
[12:55] <gilgamesh> or Symphubuntu
[12:55] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, are you going into some porn site ?
[12:55] <parkour_druid> NU
[12:55] <parkour_druid> no:)))
[12:55] <parkour_druid> no
[12:55] <gilgamesh> what do u think?
[12:55] <parkour_druid> regular pages
[12:55] <parkour_druid> any pages
[12:55] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, are you opening too many pages ?
[12:55] <parkour_druid> no
[12:55] <parkour_druid> just one
[12:55] <parkour_druid> the hole computer blockes
[12:55] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, this doesn't happen to 99% of ubuntu users
[12:55] <parkour_druid> why?
[12:56] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, try reinstalling firefox
[12:56] <wrabbit^> parkour_druid: What happens exactly.  Don't say, it just blocks.  What do you see?
[12:56] <parkour_druid> when i open with epiphany
[12:56] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, or compile it yourself
[12:56] <vanhtu1987> parkour_druid: a regular app shouldn't crash the kernel, you may want to try that page with w3m
[12:56] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, or install auotmatix and it will do it for you
[12:56] <parkour_druid> i dont understand
[12:56] <parkour_druid> plz explain again
[12:56] <ReverseBlade> vanhtu1987, I have seen many times, I had to reset my computer while using firefox
[12:56] <ichanFX> hi all, why my GAIM sometimes exit suddenly ?
[12:57] <vanhtu1987> parkour_druid: try 'w3m <that_url>' to the terminal ?
[12:57] <ReverseBlade> vanhtu1987, afterall firefox is a C, C++ program, and got tons of memory leaks in version 1.5.x
[12:57] <henna> meep, how cna get the dialogue to configure X? X got screwed up by a half finished upgrade
[12:57] <parkour_druid> you say to open the terminal
[12:57] <parkour_druid> and do what?
[12:58] <ReverseBlade> henna,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:58] <parkour_druid> i
[12:58] <ichanFX> ah my GAIM suddenly exit again
[12:59] <vanhtu1987> parkour_druid: w3m is a text mode browser, to open a page, just type w3m <url> (w3m google.com   for example). What does it show for that page ?.
[12:59] <ichanFX> can someone help me please? my GAIM sometimes exit suddenly
[12:59] <ReverseBlade> ichanFX, you have to find why this happens, it never happens to me
[12:59] <parkour_druid> wait a second
[12:59] <parkour_druid> i will try now
[12:59] <ichanFX> i didnt click anything
[12:59] <ichanFX> :(
[12:59] <ichanFX> something error with my installation maybe?
[12:59] <ReverseBlade> ichanFX, it may be your connection or another program incompatible with gaim, or an old version of gaim
[01:00] <parkour_druid> w3m.google.com
[01:00] <parkour_druid> i type like this? (w3m google.com
[01:00] <ichanFX> oh thanks a lot. i'll check it
[01:00] <ReverseBlade> ichanFX, try reinstalling, and last resort compile it yourself
[01:00] <vanhtu1987> ReverseBlade: Yup, but an application running in a mornal user account shouldn't have access to kernel's protected memory.
[01:01] <parkour_druid> hei reverse blade
[01:01] <parkour_druid> ive opened the page like you said
[01:01] <ReverseBlade> vanhtu1987, it doesn't, it just crashes Xorg, therefore, you lose the display and keyboard. I know the kernel is working like a lamborghini motor at that time. But still you have to restart
[01:01] <parkour_druid> and and i brought me
[01:01] <parkour_druid> on this link
[01:01] <parkour_druid> http://w3m.sourceforge.net/
[01:01] <parkour_druid> what happened
[01:03] <vanhtu1987> ReverseBlade: Ahh, it happened several times to me as well, for the nvidia binary blob, my last resort would be 'sysrq' :(
[01:03] <ReverseBlade> parkour_druid, if you want to benefit from this channel's support, please respect its rules. Type all you want into one post
[01:04] <ReverseBlade> vanhtu1987, btw check out slashdot today. A security vulnerability  has been discovered in nvidia binary drivers
[01:05] <vanhtu1987> ReverseBlade: I read that already, it's not running in my box as it's shown to be unstable, thanks.
[01:05] <ReverseBlade> alright
[01:05] <DireFog> ReverseBlade: check your installed fonts... I had some older Truetype fonts that would crash X *hard*, and with the bug in nvidias font handling it's a likely cause.
[01:06] <DireFog> freetype2 is funny at times, too.
[01:06] <ReverseBlade> DireFog, what ?
[01:06] <ReverseBlade> DireFog, thank you but I don't have nvidia card.
[01:06] <DireFog> I had ATI back then...
[01:06] <vanhtu1987> DireFog: I believe that was meant for me ;)
[01:07] <ReverseBlade> DireFog, I don't get the point. Why did you tell this ?
[01:07] <DireFog> maybe, I tried to track the conversation but wasn't overly successful ;-)
[01:07] <vanhtu1987> DireFog: I've minimized the fonts used in xorg though...
[01:07] <ReverseBlade> DireFog, alright
[01:11] <rus> is there a boot option at install too chose the processor family type?
[01:11] <vanhtu1987> rus: the installer probably automatically chooses the most suitable one for you.
[01:12] <ReverseBlade> rus, what kinda processor type you mean ?
[01:13] <mkulke> hello i have an 1280x800 laptop display, but ubuntu uses 1024x768 even tho in the xorg.conf the 1280x800 has been correctly set by ubuntu
[01:13] <rus> ReverseBlade: an AMD K6-2
[01:13] <mkulke> what can i do here?
[01:13] <ReverseBlade> if you mean K7, 386 686 installer chooses the most suitable one. If you need further tweaking then ubuntu may not be the best choice , but may be compiling the all thing starting from kernel would be the right thing
[01:14] <ReverseBlade> rus, I guess ubuntu will chose the most appropriate stuff for that automatically
[01:14] <ReverseBlade> chose => choose
[01:15] <rus> ReverseBlade:  whats wrong then?
[01:16] <suspectkboss> where can i get help installing xgl?
[01:16] <KenSentMe> !xgl > suspectkboss
[01:17] <KenSentMe> suspectkboss: check what ubotu says to you
[01:17] <DexterF> hi
[01:17] <DexterF> talked a friend into trying 6.06
[01:18] <ReverseBlade> suspectkboss, consult to ubuntu forums and ubuntu wiki, there are tons of info there
[01:18] <ReverseBlade> DexterF, what's up ?
[01:18] <Lynoure> DexterF: Congratulations to both :)
[01:18] <DexterF> he installed on a laptop, and if it boots all is fine, but that's just the point: it only boots about once in three tries
[01:18] <suspectkboss> actually i have it installed, but i'm getting weird problems
[01:18] <Kim^J> Why is Samba broken in Edgy? There's no /etc/init.d/samba.
[01:19] <ReverseBlade> DexterF, I am using it in my HP laptop, works flawlessly
[01:19] <suspectkboss> strange colors and so on
[01:19] <ReverseBlade> Kim^J, try to install it
[01:19] <ReverseBlade> suspectkboss, colors on buttons ?
[01:19] <Kim^J> ReverseBlade: There's nothing more to install.
[01:20] <suspectkboss> ah...not really. buttons disappear until i hover over them
[01:20] <DexterF> had him check dmesg and messages, looks like preemption might be the culprit. odd enough, figured a Pentium III would be fine with preempt. well, anyway, to get started: can I disable preemtion from the boot line, or will I have to talk him thru recompiling the kernel or are there images without preempt available?
[01:20] <suspectkboss> selection rectangles turn the desktop crazy
[01:20] <ReverseBlade> Kim^J, I don't have that file as well, but I can navigate through a windows network easily
[01:20] <DexterF> Lynoure: actually, if I knew before what I got comming I would have told him to stow away for a Mac
[01:21] <DexterF> *put aside
[01:21] <mnepton> DexterF: has he tried booting in recovery mode?
[01:22] <DexterF> mnepton: good question.
[01:23] <DexterF> I'm no ubuntu user - what does recovery do different?
[01:25] <mnepton> DexterF: minimal kernel and modules. verbose init output.
[01:25] <mnepton> DexterF: last weekend i tried migrating my server to a new drive. rsync worked, couldn't boot. did a clean install instead, couldn't boot. recovery mode showed me tons of CRCcheck errors. the drive was failing.
[01:26] <andy> hello everybody :-)
[01:27] <DexterF> mnepton: had a look at my menu.lst on a vm: kernel image for recovery is the very same, so I guess it's a module thing. besides, his wifi only works with ndiswrapper - I only run cat5 myself, is ndiswrapper known to fsck things up a lot?
[01:27] <andy> i have a question about the new apt (removal of unneeded deps) comming in ee
[01:27] <DexterF> dirve should be alright, its dual boot with win xp and win never complains
[01:27] <andy> is this the right place or should i ask somewhere else?
[01:28] <davmor2> andy: ask away
[01:28] <ReverseBlade> !ask >andy
[01:28] <dinamizador> sandy??
[01:28] <dinamizador> ohhhhhhhh sandy
[01:28] <mnepton> DexterF: i don;t use ndiswrapper, as it is an ugly solution. i tend to just buy supported stuff.
[01:28] <DexterF> ok this doesn't necessarily mean ubuntu doesn't sit on a defunct sector, otoh during install and fsck it didn't complain
[01:28] <dinamizador> #almeria
[01:29] <DexterF> mnepton: "buy supported stuff" has this "buy" in it which involves "money" - not an option
[01:29] <DexterF> i agree with you in general tho
[01:29] <andy> is is the same thing as aptitude can do now or is it more complex?
[01:30] <mnepton> DexterF: you could try "steal," but that's against the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct. ;)
[01:30] <andy> i have found that aptitude sometime leaves things behind that could be removed
[01:30] <andy> though it is in a special situation...
[01:30] <DexterF> mnepton: too slow and clumsy for breaking and entering ;)
[01:31] <mnepton> DexterF: dude, finesse. *talk* someone out of an Atheros chipset wifi card ;)
[01:31] <Distro^Junkie> on bootup I have 6 different kernels listed for ubuntu... how do I edit it to make it only 1 ?
[01:32] <andy> i have not been able to find more specfic info on the new apt other than that it will be there :-)
[01:32] <mnepton> Distro^Junkie: fire up Synaptic, do a search for "kernel" and get rid of all the numbered ones *except* for the highest number
[01:32] <Distro^Junkie> ok
[01:33] <DexterF> mnepton: :D I'll pass on the idea
[01:33] <davmor2> andy: some things are left behind because they are required by something else I have had the same dicussion myself several times
[01:34] <andy> davmor2: well, i hit a case in which they really are not :-0
[01:34] <andy> ;-)
[01:34] <andy> :-)
[01:34] <andy> finally...
[01:34] <andy> the example is this:
[01:34] <Distro^Junkie> hmmm mnepton I tried that and it gave me nothing
[01:34] <davmor2> andy: nine times out of ten it is some program you would of never thought needed it.
[01:34] <dbzdeath> hey i just installed my audigy 4(non pro) and now sound works in xmms and vlc under the alsa output but sound output on mplayer with any of the output modules sounds really statically ... like if you ran cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  but there is still clearly the audio there for the original file it is just so badly sounding could someone please help me?
[01:34] <andy> on vanilla ubuntu:
[01:35] <andy> i installed kubuntu-desktop
[01:35] <andy> using aptitude
[01:35] <andy> i removed it a while later
[01:35] <andy> still some packages it brought as deps remained
[01:35] <andy> the reason:
[01:36] <andy> some packages dep on several alternatives like "x-term | gnome-session" etc...
[01:36] <andy> so for example konsole stayed in my system
[01:37] <andy> because ot was one of several packages satisfying the deps of gdm
[01:37] <mnepton> Distro^Junkie: sorry, search for "linux image"
[01:37] <Distro^Junkie> ok
[01:37] <andy> although it could be safely removed and in fact i wanted it to be gone
[01:38] <andy> so i just wanted to know if the new apt is "clever" enough to see these cases
[01:39] <Distro^Junkie> thanx mnepton that was it
[01:39] <davmor2> andy: if it is lib files they tend not to be removed by default.  When it is dependencies it will remove the program plus dependencies so konsole would remove xterm but xterm is a dependency of linux and round in circles it goes.
[01:39] <andy> davmor2: not the case i mean
[01:40] <andy> read the example again
[01:40] <andy> konsole stayed just because of gdm
[01:40] <misieq> how can i make firefox not store cache for input boxes in forms? either server-side (page source) or firefox config.
[01:40] <andy> which would be perfectly happy even without konsole
[01:40] <wijnand> what's the easiest way to get ubuntu to give me a popup at a given time (like an alarm)?
[01:40] <andy> konsole was just on of the alternatives...
[01:41] <wijnand> in gnome :)
[01:41] <DexterF> btw: someone here running ubt in VMware? I can't make the mouse pointer move outside the windows tho I have vmtools installed
[01:41] <davmor2> it would be a case of having to program into each app what could be removed and what couldn't which would give you a program several times bigger and much slower to boot
[01:42] <davmor2> instead they put in a generic check for dependencies if there are none remove app
[01:42] <davmor2> kinda thing
[01:42] <andy> davmor2: i don't say it's easy but it can be done at the level of apt
[01:42] <tuqann> ahhhh, back for some more luvin'!
[01:42] <andy> so i just wanted to ask about the new apt
[01:43] <tuqann> is cfm here?
[01:43] <cfm>  maybe...
[01:43] <tuqann> haahaa
[01:43] <Distro^Junkie> is it easy to install e17 in ubuntu ?
[01:43] <HxChris> Hi guys :)
[01:43] <andy> 'cause i have not seen specific info about it's capabilities
[01:43] <tuqann> I think I got my ether working
[01:43] <cfm> Ah, excellent
[01:43] <tuqann> I went to a netacfe, ethernet cable
[01:43] <davmor2> andy:  it would take years there are some 18,000+ packages
[01:43] <tuqann> in prompt mode I typed ifconfig lo inet IP same for eth0
[01:43] <andy> davmor2: no need to touch the packages, imho
[01:44] <DexterF> Distro^Junkie: would try on a test installation first. but not worth the effort anyway, e17 is nowhere near productive
[01:44] <tuqann> I can ping 192.168.0.1 (main pc) but can't seem to go any farther
[01:44] <DexterF> or even usable
[01:44] <andy> davmor2: still i agree that it is not easy or obvious
[01:44] <tuqann> is there any more options I need to config?
[01:45] <andy> is there some info about the new apt on the web?
[01:45] <tuqann> help is useless here, there is only a desklady working, she doesn't know her head from her toes, just for the cash register
[01:45] <andy> have not found anything...
[01:45] <davmor2> andy: so how would a smart apt know how to remove something even though it says it's a dependency?
[01:45] <Distro^Junkie> ok thanx DexterF
[01:45] <tuqann> cfm, any ideas what to do next?
[01:45] <Distro^Junkie> just wanted to see the big deal
[01:45] <HxChris> I'd like to know if someone could help me and explain me how to install Unreal Tournament on my Ubuntu (I new to Linux and really love it for the moment but I'm still discovering) thx
[01:45] <Amaranth> andy: In edgy apt shows you what packages nothing depends on (and weren't manually installed) and let's you remove them all in one go (sudo apt-get auto-remove)
[01:45] <DexterF> tuqann: you're in an internet cafe and they let you hook up your own machine to their net?
[01:45] <Distro^Junkie> apaprently its being put on the Ps3
[01:45] <Distro^Junkie> apparently*
[01:46] <tuqann> yeah, they charge extra
[01:46] <cfm> tuqann: So they don't have DHCP there?  You need to hard-define the IP address?
[01:46] <DexterF> Distro^Junkie: I just read that, boggled my mind for the very same reason
[01:46] <andy> Amaranth: so is it exactly the same as aptitude can do by itself, only on a deeper level?
[01:46] <tuqann> I don't know if they have a dhcp, how can I check, I can check other pc already hooked on with XP
[01:46] <Distro^Junkie> should of used a more common desktop
[01:46] <tuqann> like I said, the lady knows nothing
[01:47] <HxChris> nobody here who could help me to install UT99 on ubuntu?
[01:47] <Amaranth> andy: Basically it's the same thing aptitude does but put in libapt instead of in the separate end-user applications.
[01:47] <andy> davmor2: by seeing that other things satisfy this dep too and that removing that package won't break deps
[01:47] <Amaranth> andy: So apt-get, aptitude, and synaptic can all use the same code to do it.
[01:47] <tuqann> wait, "IP assigned by DHCP"
[01:47] <tuqann> dns server 192.168.2.1
[01:48] <andy> Amaranth: great, there goes the answer to my question, thanks :-)
[01:48] <Amaranth> belkin wireless?
[01:48] <tuqann> ohhh, I'm on the .2.1
[01:48] <Amaranth> tuqann: Where are you?
[01:48] <tuqann> Lebanon  :P
[01:48] <cfm> That's the one.  If you can get them to assign Linux's IP address, it'll pick up DNS and gateway as well.
[01:48] <tuqann> great, I'll try that in a moment!
[01:48] <justin_> How do you change your "root/sudo" password?
[01:48] <DexterF> HxChris: is there a native linux port?
[01:49] <tuqann> Amaranth: Lebanon/Middleeast, where the latest war was, it's a pretty neat country
[01:49] <davmor2> andy: but then it has to be smart which again means having each package know what it needs and what it can use rather than relying on a generic solution that say do you depend on anything that is needed by the system.
[01:49] <DexterF> justin_: sudo passwd
[01:49] <cfm> justin_: When sudo prompts for a password, it wants *your* password, not root's.  So technically, you shouldn't need root's password at all.
[01:49] <justin_> cfm: Well ... change sudo's password, which I am used to being root -- coming from Slackware.
[01:50] <justin_> DexterF: Let's give it a shot
[01:50] <tuqann> gonna try the new ip now, I hope I'll see you on irssi :P
[01:50] <andy> davmor2: that info is in tha package already, as an example, look at the deps of gdm in aptitude
[01:50] <DexterF> cfm: but if you absolutely want you can set a root passwd that way, right?
[01:50] <cfm> DexterF: Yes, should be able to.  I've not actually tried!
[01:51] <justin_> Alright that worked, thanks guys :)
 Yep, but it's ok I found how do to it :)
[01:51] <DexterF> justin_: from slack to ubt? snitch! renegade! I yell! :D
[01:53] <Distro^Junkie> a renegade would be going from gentoo to ubuntu lol like I did
[01:54] <justin_> DexterF: Haha
[01:54] <justin_> DexterF: What can I say, im a sucker for the debian packages ;D
[01:54] <justin_> Distro^Junkie: Gentoo, is crazy...
[01:54] <Stargazers> Hi. Can someone help me with my postgresql-server problem?
[01:54] <Stargazers> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27082/
[01:55] <Stargazers> That is the problem, it just won't start.
[01:55] <Distro^Junkie> yea but you never worry bout dependency hell
[01:55] <justin_> Distro^Junkie: Yeah...
[01:55] <Distro^Junkie> portage is the best
[01:55] <justin_> That is the one thing I like about windows when I use it at work..
[01:55] <justin_> No fear of dependancie adventures haha
[01:55] <Distro^Junkie> you said the w word tsk tsk
[01:56] <DexterF> slackware uber alles. some day i will write an app to convert ebuilds to SlackBuilds and the have any package I want in the best distro ever.
[01:56] <DexterF> ;)
[01:56] <justin_> dependancy even.. (need muh coffee) :D
[01:56] <justin_> Distro^Junkie: Ahh, both have their time and place -- I use Linux cause its gets my stuff done quicker, without fear of my whole system being gone the next day ;D
[01:56] <DexterF> dependencies, bah. Real Men (TM) use ldd ;P
[01:57] <Distro^Junkie> lol
[01:57] <POVaddct> DexterF: hehe. what abount dlopen()? :)
[01:57] <POVaddct> about*
[01:57] <Distro^Junkie> with gentoo 2006 I've gotten to a desktop in just around an hour
[01:57] <justin_> It's too bad they did not carry on BEos longer then they did, it had potential...
[01:57] <MEGADANCE> "dkpg was interrupted, you must manually run dkpg --configure -a' to correct the problem - all the sudden this popped out, and I cannot add any apps...
[01:57] <Distro^Junkie> brb
[01:58] <justin_> I still like playing with ther version they released.. its fun
[01:58] <justin_> the*
[01:58] <LockDog> good morning
[01:58] <justin_> MEGADANCE: I think you have Synaptic or something else open that needs to be closed before it can continue..
[01:58] <MEGADANCE> no
[01:58] <justin_> MEGADANCE: When I receive that error message that is usually the problem.
[01:59] <LockDog> test
[01:59] <MEGADANCE> i dont have synaptic running
[01:59] <mkulke> how do i activate the sun java after i installed it?
[01:59] <mkulke> java still uses the gcc one
[01:59] <justin_> MEGADANCE: Yeah maybe not visually but it could be in process, try --- killall synaptic, see what the return is
[01:59] <JosefK> mkulke: sudo update-alternatives --config java && sudo update-alternatives --config jar
[01:59] <Distro^Junkie> ok now I feel more at home in kde
[02:00] <justin_> Distro^Junkie: KDE? blasphemy!
[02:00] <JosefK> indeed Distro^Junkie, I've just switched over to Kubuntu too ^^
[02:00] <Distro^Junkie> lol
[02:00] <LockDog> Well... somone can help me today? :) Can`t see folders & files in russian language on mounted NTFS system...
[02:00] <justin_> XFCE or Flux for me.. im a minimal man, I have nothing to overcompensate for
[02:00] <justin_> :P
[02:00] <guzza> good morning :D
[02:00] <MEGADANCE> justin_, lori@ECLIPSE:~$ killall synaptic
[02:00] <MEGADANCE> synaptic: no process killed
[02:00] <DexterF> seems like MEGADANCE has a corrupted package db. I knew how to fix that once... hm...
[02:00] <guzza> i have a question regarding beryl and amd64
[02:01] <guzza> any1 know anything bout that?
[02:01] <justin_> MEGADANCE: Alright then you probably have what DexterF just said
[02:01] <MEGADANCE> DexterF, i had resterted the sistem, while I tried to install Thunderbird
[02:01] <justin_> I simply mentioned that because Ubuntu dapper has problems with closing apps in X sometimes, you will close them.. the window will be gone -- but the process is still actually running, happens quite often to me when im running VLC.
[02:01] <DexterF> it was something about dpkg and forcing something. seriously can't remember precisely. anyone?
[02:02] <guzza> anyone know whic depo i need to use to install beryl for amd64
[02:02] <joeCoT> guzza: got it running right now :) what abou it?
[02:02] <Distro^Junkie> ok now for the most important app
[02:02] <MEGADANCE> yes, justin_ , the same issu in m$ with VLC...
[02:02] <Distro^Junkie> amarok!!!
[02:03] <joeCoT> guzza: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[02:03] <justin_> MEGADANCE: Yes, but it happens with other apps also.. just more often with VLC.. that and vanishing when I try to play VCD's, I gave up and just play my VCD's in Gmplayer heh
[02:03] <DexterF> POVaddct: I said real men, I didn't say I grow fangs ;)
[02:03] <guzza> joeCoT: thanks gonna try this one
[02:04] <justin_> DexterF: Haha
[02:04] <justin_> So what day is Edgy supposed to be released does anyone know, visited the Ubuntu site lately?
[02:04] <guzza> 26th ...
[02:04] <guzza> october
[02:04] <justin_> Nice, halloween bug time :)
[02:04] <MEGADANCE> once, i just reinstalled drapper, just because of this 'dkpg' error crap..I
[02:05] <justin_> Lets hope that we get a treat and not a trick :D
[02:05] <JosefK> MEGADANCE: if you're stuck with a half-configured package that 'dkpg --configure -a', try 'dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -r *package name*'
[02:05] <JosefK> *that dpkg [blah]  can't fix
[02:06] <tuqann> cfn, still problematic
[02:06] <tuqann> *cfm
[02:06] <mkulke> how do i activate the sun java after i installed it? the java command still uses the gcc one
[02:06] <cfm> Am I? Oh dear.
[02:07] <tuqann> :P you think I need to explicitely specify he dhcp and the dns
[02:07] <JosefK> mkulke: I gave you the command before
[02:07] <JosefK> mkulke: sudo update-alternatives --config java && sudo update-alternatives --config jar
[02:07] <guzza> joeCoT: i looked at this page but it's sam as the others
[02:07] <mkulke> JosefK: thanks and sorry, i didnt spot it
[02:07] <guzza> which linux kernel do you have?
[02:07] <JosefK> np's :)
[02:07] <guzza> i386 or amd64?
[02:08] <guzza> *same
[02:08] <cfm> tuqann: You really shouldn't need to.  dhcp-client is installed and happy?
[02:08] <tuqann> I wouldn't really know :(
[02:08] <tuqann> how can I check?
[02:09] <joeCoT> guzza: oh, wait, nvm >_< i'm running edgy eft on my desktop, with beryl, but that's i386. my _laptop_ is amd64, but that's running dapper drake and metacity. sorry about that
[02:09] <guzza> joeCoT: no problem .. ;)
[02:09] <Boboy> how d u uninstall ubuntu?
[02:09] <guzza> anyone here has ubuntu dapper drake installed to use amd64 kernel?
[02:09] <tuqann> and for the heck of it, what's teh command for dhcp and dns configs, the man ifconfig didn't mention them at all!
[02:10] <guzza> ubuntu amd63 version...
[02:10] <guzza> amd64 :D
[02:10] <cfm> tuqann: dpkg -l \*dhcp\*
[02:10] <cfm> ^^ That's a minus-L by the way!
[02:10] <cfm> Looks like a one on my screen :-/
[02:10] <tuqann> gothcha!
[02:11] <guzza> noone is using amd64? :D
[02:11] <tuqann> k, should I reboot and try that now, or can you feed me any more tips to give a shot
[02:11] <cfm> cat dhclient.conf, check that the "request" section is uncommented
[02:12] <JosefK> guzza: unfortunately I get some obscure breakage with my Core 2 on amd64 :(
[02:12] <cfm> If dhcp client is installed, try using dhclient to config  it.
[02:12] <Zaggynl> grr
[02:12] <guzza> JosefK: mine is OK but needed help to find the depo for beryl for amd64
[02:12] <guzza> found it :D
[02:12] <tuqann> ncfm: now by cat do you mean a text editor?
[02:13] <Zaggynl> I'm trying to apt-get libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
[02:13] <tuqann> can I use nano too?
[02:13] <wijnand> cat is a very lousy text editor indeed :P
[02:13] <Zaggynl> but I keep getting 'Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/pool-dapper/arts/libartsc0-dev_1.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb  404 Not Found'
[02:13] <Zaggynl> and then it just stops
[02:13] <Zaggynl> how can I force it?
[02:13] <cfm> tuqann: It's a small file, cat should be okay.  But if you want to use an editor, go ahead!
[02:13] <JosefK> Zaggynl: run 'sudo aptitude update' then try again
[02:13] <tuqann> haahaa, ergoProxy, I just watched the first 10 epis a few hours ago!
[02:13] <MEGADANCE> thanks JosefK , sorted :)
[02:13] <tuqann> cool show, too bad I dunno where to get the rest
[02:13] <JosefK> Zaggynl: that kind of thing happens when you're package cache is out of date
[02:13] <JosefK> MEGADANCE: np :)
[02:14] <tuqann> cfm: I'll try those commands, now, see what I can cook
[02:14] <cfm> Cool, see you in a bit!
[02:14] <Zaggynl> JosefK, it still won't work :<
[02:14] <sergevn> Hi, can someone help me with an installation error of Ubuntu 6.06? :)
[02:15] <JosefK> Zaggynl: hmm :/ looks like a package is missing - so long as aptitude update isn't giving any warnings it isn't a problem with your machine
[02:15] <MEGADANCE> just a nosense question: is there a plugin for xmms, that shows in gaim's status the current song playing?
[02:15] <pawman> Can anyone help me with networking?
[02:15] <JosefK> Zaggynl: you could try using a different mirror (I haven't got a list to hand, but I think there's some on the site)
[02:15] <Zaggynl> arf
[02:15] <guzza> pawman: what's the matter?
[02:16] <pawman> I cannot see my local network in the windows Network Browser
[02:16] <sergevn> When I boot the installation, it keeps hanging on "Mounting Root Filesystem", after like 5-7 minutes it give an block error of my hdd :)
[02:16] <guzza> maybe you should set the domain name to match the other computers domain name
[02:16] <guzza> mostly windows usese WORKGROUP
[02:16] <Davitrola> hi
[02:17] <sergevn> with 5.x it I didnt had that problem.
[02:18] <pawman> It is a domian and they are the same!!  The basics are done.  I can ping the server and switches I get internet access I just don't seem to be able to browse for other computers
[02:18] <Davitrola> has anyone here met an old little bug in gnome, in which it loads an application icon on the desktop instead of the taskbar?
[02:18] <cfm> pawman: Got Samba installed okay?
[02:19] <moises> hols
[02:19] <pawman> Where do I need to install Samba -->  Client or server side?
[02:19] <Davitrola> this bug's been chasing me for months, i can never work around it
[02:19] <KenSentMe> pawman: samba on server side
[02:20] <KenSentMe> !samba > pawman
[02:20] <pawman> cfm, How do I install samba?
[02:20] <KenSentMe> pawman: check what uboto says to you
[02:20] <cfm> pawman: sudo apt-get install samba
[02:20] <tuqann> cfm: those are the results
[02:20] <chopchop_> !samba
[02:20] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:21] <tuqann> 1) dpkg -l \*dchp\* ==> Failed to get attributes from /etc/resolve.conf
[02:21] <pawman> cfm, does it matter if the server is using gentoo?
[02:21] <tuqann> 2) nano dhclient.conf ==> nothing in the file, either empty or most probably not found
[02:22] <tuqann> 3) dhclient ==>gave me an output, including the IP address that in XP I got with auto-obtain settings
[02:23] <cfm> tuqann: Not sure why dpkg isn't working, but if dhclient.conf isn't there, you'll need to install it. sudo apt-get install dhcp-client
[02:23] <cfm> Ah, okay...
[02:23] <tuqann> haahaa
[02:23] <tuqann> exactly! :P
[02:23] <tuqann> manually???
[02:24] <tuqann> can it be done manually?
[02:24] <pawman> Thanks guys!!  I think I've got enough now to figure it out.  Cheers
[02:25] <pawman> !SWAT
[02:25] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:25] <Zaggynl> can't I just ignore 'libartsc0-dev' ?! I don't need it anyway
[02:26] <cfm> tuqann: Sorry, not sure what to suggest there.  dhclient should obtain the DHCP lease, set the IP address etc - and all should be well.
[02:27] <mikkas> hey peeps! just released a new episode of the UbuntuOS podcast :)
[02:27] <tuqann> yeah, but God doesn't want to make it that easy, does he now :S
[02:27] <mikkas> check out http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Ubuntu_Podcast_Free_Direct_Download_Links if you are interested
[02:27] <tuqann> regardless, any idea how to manually install dhcp-client?
[02:27] <tuqann> how should I just go google my heart out!
[02:28] <cfm> Well, dhclient comes with the dhcp-client, so it looks like it's installed!
[02:28] <cfm> It might be work removing and reinstalling it, just to be sure?
[02:28] <cfm> sudo apt-get remove dhcp-client ; sudo apt-get install dhcp-client
[02:29] <tuqann> but I never got "apt-get insall" to work on anything, why would it work on dhcp-client now
[02:30] <cfm> Ah, yes, of course... ;-)
[02:30] <NiklasH_work> hi, can anyone give me any pointers on how to install the debian version of openafs? Ubuntu's is broken, and debians supposedly works
[02:31] <M_A_K> Ever since I formatted my HD and installed Kubuntu, when I empty the trash, the progress dialog stays at 0%.  If I close the dialog box later on, the trash is empty, but progress stays at 0.  I tried #kubuntu, but no luck.
[02:31] <sergevn> Can someone help me with an boot issiue with the Desktop version of version 6?
[02:32] <tuqann> cfm: is there a manual way to install things, like download a file and locally from my harddrive install it
[02:32] <cfm> You can use: dpkg --install packagename.deb
[02:32] <cfm> You'll need to grab the .deb files from the Ubuntu site...
[02:32] <cfm> You using Dapper?
[02:32] <tuqann> okay, so all I need now is to get the .deb I need.
[02:32] <tuqann> yes
[02:33] <cfm> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/dhcp3-client
[02:33] <tuqann> can I do it for the xorg (xserver)
[02:33] <sergevn> cfm: Is it a known issue, when booting from the desktop 64bit cd, that it freezes on "Mounting Root Filesystems", and then giving a block hdd error?
[02:33] <cfm> sergevn: Sorry, can't answer that - not used Ubuntu 64-bit
[02:34] <Zaggynl> ...
[02:34] <cfm> tuqann: Yes, but you'll need to get the dependencies manually, of course.
[02:34] <Zaggynl> I can't start gedit with sudo anymore
[02:34] <Zaggynl> just nothing happens
[02:34] <sergevn> cfm: Anyone in the channel who has? :)
[02:34] <josip> with a fresh openldap installation, what's the default password for cn=admin ?
[02:34] <sergevn> cfm: That you know of
[02:35] <tuqann> cfm: you mean the ati driver from their site, the 55mb one
[02:35] <Dexter_F> 55mb!
[02:35] <brynk_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278404&highlight=c1100
[02:36] <mikkas> hey---- is there a ubuntu discussion irc channel?
[02:36] <mikkas> not just for help?
[02:36] <josip> anyone ?
[02:37] <tuqann> dexter_F: there was a "how to" forum to setup my ati x700, that included getting that file
[02:37] <tuqann> but I never got it to work
[02:37] <cfm> sergevn: Sorry, no idea!
[02:38] <Dexter_F> 55megs, that's plainly ridiculous
[02:39] <Dexter_F> I like ATI for gaming since they are less noisy, consume less power and have better aa/af than nv, but under linux they're a drag
[02:39] <tuqann> eh, I didn't write the drivers, I wish someone can do something about it, systems are getting bigger and bigger
[02:39] <Dexter_F> I think next time I upgrade my 'puter itll be intel core2 duo with onbaord graphics. after all, i need linux for office, video, surfing compiling stuff, not games.
[02:39] <tuqann> they should instead get smaller and more effecient
[02:39] <Dexter_F> they should be open src
[02:40] <cfm> tuqann: Yikes.  It might be worth getting networking to work before attempting X if that's how big it's going to be!
[02:40] <sergevn> cfm: Guess it's a rare problem, on none of the tech forums is it remarked :)
[02:40] <Giuto> hi
[02:41] <Giuto> i have a problem
[02:41] <tuqann> cfm: already I got the download, I actually can live with ubuntu with no network support, that's why I'm keeping XP
[02:41] <Giuto> when i start gnome
[02:41] <tuqann> cfm: I just want the xserver to work on my ati x700, and all the help pages refer to apt-get!
[02:41] <Giuto> it say : /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[02:41] <Giuto> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "giuseppe"
[02:41] <Giuto> session_child_run: impossibile eseguire /etc/gdm/Xsession default
[02:42] <Dexter_F> gawd
[02:42] <Dexter_F> Giuto: how about speaking entire lines and using a pastebin like axpr.net
[02:42] <Giuto> ok soory
[02:42] <cfm> tuqann: Well, you can replace an apt-get with a download from packages.ubuntu.com and a dpkg --install
[02:43] <Shu> Hi
[02:43] <Shu> can someone help me with some wifi issues?
[02:44] <Dexter_F> no since we're no psychics and can't read your thoughts. you have to tell us about the nature of the problem.
[02:44] <Giuto> can you help me??????
[02:44] <Shu> yea i know i have to explain some stuff
[02:44] <Shu> :/
[02:44] <RadiantFire> there is a high probability someone can help you
[02:44] <Shu> but if someone available and willing to help me?
[02:44] <RadiantFire> !ask
[02:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:45] <Shu> k
[02:45] <Shu> so
[02:45] <tuqann> cfm: I'll get to that, funny thing is no one mentioned dpkg -install as an alternative local installation methode
[02:45] <Shu> i have looked at rutilt
[02:45] <tuqann> they keep throwing it in, and you don't have a clue
[02:45] <Shu> and the link is all the time between 60 and 70%
[02:45] <Shu> but
[02:46] <cfm> tuqann: That's because apt-get is the One True Way to install packages.  But dpkg is the alternative if apt-get won't work.
[02:46] <ReverseBlade> !ask >Guito
[02:46] <Shu> the transmission isn't fine, lots of errors : 100++ and lots lots of collissions : 15000+ the reception is fine
[02:46] <tomasz> hi - is there any current livecd for dapper ? I cannot find one.
[02:46] <cfm> Or you can set up a local repository and access it via apt-get, but there's not much advantage to doing it by hand.
[02:46] <tuqann> I think something should be done about it, not everyone gets his internet ready and fine
[02:46] <Zaggynl> what to do when aptitude hangs during an update?
[02:46] <wrabbit^> anybody know of a gui bandwidth limiter?
[02:47] <wrabbit^> or a gui bandwidth shaper I should say
[02:47] <Shu> what can i do to improve a wifi quality, i need it up 99% of the time
[02:48] <Dexter_F> wrabbit^: wishful thinking. if you ever find one, lemme know. I gave up on shaping :P IPCop has some limited shaping abilities, maybe getting an iso and having a look at how they do it sheds some light. (IPcop.org, in case its unknown)
[02:48] <Chm0d> anyone here available to help out with a tv tuner card problem?
[02:48] <tuqann> local repository, as in local nextwork or change address to hdd:///
[02:48] <wrabbit^> I'll check it out, thanks Dexter_F.  I've been using Wonder Shaper and while it's easy, it's slightly above my head
[02:49] <cfm> Shu: Are you actually seeing bandwidth problems or disconnections?
[02:49] <Shu> yes
[02:49] <Shu> in fact the pc isn't in my house
[02:49] <cfm> Shu: 60% quality sounds fine, and networks *always* exhibit collisions.
[02:49] <Giuto> this is my problem http://pastebin.ca/206482
[02:49] <Shu> yea and what about errors?
[02:49] <Shu> cuz i get frequently disconnected
[02:50] <catalytic> whats the linux equivalent to hyperterminal, that lets me establist tcpip connections?
[02:50] <catalytic> eg accessing a cisco router
[02:50] <Dexter_F> wrabbit^: wonder shaper... rings a bell... well, in general to properly shape traffic you need to dive into the in-depths of how to do it, ioncluding how token buckets work and so on. it was above my head *and* time, so I decided to upgrade bandwidth :D
[02:50] <cfm> Shu: Do you think it's a Ubuntu problem, or a location problem?
[02:50] <catalytic> gtkterm only lets me setup com ports
[02:50] <Shu> there's a 10bmits down and up internet connected to that wifi
[02:50] <Shu> i don't know :d
[02:50] <Shu> how can i customise my wifi
[02:50] <Kim^J> Who's  responsible for the Samba packages in Edgy? That person is going to be killed.
[02:51] <Shu> to get a reasonable QoS
[02:51] <Dexter_F> Giuto: tried aynthing funny with your X config? was it working before?
[02:51] <tuqann> cfm: thanks for all the help, even if it didn't work now I'm calling it a day
[02:51] <tuqann> ciao
[02:53] <zyclop> greetings
[02:53] <wijnand> how do i change default applications? there is a "preferred applications" dialog in Preferences but that only works for internet, mail and terminal
[02:53] <cfm> Shu: Sorry, can't help you with that.  Maybe a generic wifi+linux page would help?  Google might be a good place to start.
[02:53] <Shu> but it's on the computer side
[02:53] <Dexter_F> Shu: well, if that's what your wifi equipment can dish out you'll probably have to get better equipment. you can't compensate sh!tty hardware with software
[02:53] <catalytic> i just plugged my lcd screen in
[02:53] <Shu> how can i reduce the speed for exemple
[02:53] <catalytic> and there is about a 1cm gap missing on the right
[02:53] <catalytic> how can i fix this?
[02:53] <wrabbit^> Dexter_F: I'm on a 512 adsl connection.  Wonder shaper is just basically, "sudo wondershaper eth0 downlink uplink"
[02:53] <Shu> my hd isn't bad ^^
[02:53] <Shu> and it's new
[02:53] <cfm> tuqann: Sorry we couldn't beat it!  G'bye.
[02:53] <wrabbit^> what I don't get is, my laptop is also eth0 when connected.  I don't know if it limits both my pc and the laptop or just the machine I issue the command on
[02:53] <zyclop> catalytic: does your screen have an autoconfigure button?
[02:53] <dandaman32> catalytic: try changing your display resolution
[02:54] <catalytic> yeah, tried that
[02:54] <Shu> could you tell me how to configure the speed etc
[02:54] <Dexter_F> catalytic: wide screen lcd?
[02:54] <wijnand> wrabbit^: eth0 is the name of the device in your computer. every computer would have an eth0.
[02:54] <Shu> i can't find it ^^
[02:54] <Shu> (command mode-
[02:54] <Shu> )
[02:54] <catalytic> and i tried changing the res in xubuntu and back again, no just a standard 17" 1280x1024
[02:55] <wrabbit^> wijnand: That's good to know, thanks.
[02:55] <Zaggynl> I just updated my sources.list via source-o-matic, and I still can't apt-get install libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
[02:55] <dandaman32> catalytic: manufacturer and model of the lcd?
[02:55] <catalytic> viewsonic
[02:55] <Dexter_F> catalytic: dvi or vga?
[02:55] <catalytic> vga
[02:55] <catalytic> ill just get the model
[02:55] <wrabbit^> Zaggynl, be sure to sudo apt-get update first
[02:55] <Dexter_F> hm. tried resync...?
[02:56] <Zaggynl> wrabbit^, I did, a gazillion times now, always gives errors
[02:56] <wrabbit^> Zaggynl: BUt I haven't used that proggie so it may already do it for you
[02:56] <catalytic> vx715
[02:56] <wrabbit^> Zaggynl, what's the error?
[02:56] <Zaggynl> sec, it's hanging again at '40% [Connecting to cipherfunk.org (205.178.189.131)'
[02:56] <dandaman32> catalytic: is display is explicitly set to 1280x1024, and is the entire screen area showing?
[02:57] <catalytic> display is set to default
[02:57] <catalytic> but about 1cm is missing on right
[02:57] <voraistos> Hey guys. i have some trouble. i have a webcam, and would like to install it (i now it can work on ubuntu i did it before) I would like to access multimedi systems, but i cant find it ?!!! can u help pls ?
[02:57] <catalytic> overlapped, sort of,
[02:58] <wrabbit^> Zaggynl: Might be the source itself
[02:58] <catalytic> like if it was a crt. and you stretch the horizontal further than the actual screen can see
[02:58] <Zaggynl> voraistos, System ->Preferences
[02:58] <voraistos> Zaggynl: how is it called. it was like that on breezy, but i cant find it now ?!
[02:58] <catalytic> it was fine on the crt, i swapped the screens over
[02:58] <dandaman32> catalytic: you probably need to contact viewsonic then, they are a good company and if your lcd is still under warranty then they will probably replace it for you
[02:59] <catalytic> the vid card has a dvi-vga adapter
[02:59] <Zaggynl> voraistos, Multimedia Systems Selector
[02:59] <catalytic> ???] 
[02:59] <Zaggynl> wrabbit^, http://pastebin.ca/206502
[02:59] <catalytic> theres nothing wrong with the monitor
[02:59] <catalytic> i plug it into my g4 powerbook and its fine
[02:59] <voraistos> Zaggynl: just after mouse, right ? not there :'(
[02:59] <catalytic> i remember when i was trying to install my ati radeon card, and ran through the setup there was an option to auto detect the monitor
[03:00] <catalytic> i was wondering if there was another way of running through that setup again
[03:00] <dandaman32> catalytic: do you have a copy of windows on that system?
[03:00] <catalytic> on another partition yes, and it works fine there
[03:00] <catalytic> its not the screen
[03:01] <dandaman32> catalytic: have you explicitly installed ATI's closed-source drivers?
[03:01] <catalytic> i tried, i followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:01] <catalytic> is that what you are referring to?
[03:02] <catalytic> i got to the part where you are supposed to test and it still shows mesa drivers
[03:02] <catalytic> so i dont think they were installed correctly
[03:02] <catalytic> will that effect my monitor tho?
[03:02] <wrabbit^> Zaggynl, looks like the issue is coming from a couple of those sources.  Some servers get a high traffic load at peak times
[03:02] <Zaggynl> hm
[03:02] <dandaman32> catalytic: hmm, it's pretty hard to mess up installation of X drivers, did the monitor work right when you used the opensource driver?
[03:02] <wrabbit^> Zaggynl: I have issues with the non free sources aswel
[03:02] <wrabbit^> l
[03:02] <Zaggynl> It has been doing that for as long as I've used Ubuntu :<
[03:03] <Zaggynl> I need some dependency for duke nukem3d, so I can compile
[03:03] <wrabbit^> Zaggynl: I'd remove the sources that're feeding an error and work from there
[03:03] <wrabbit^> Zaggynl: Ah right.  Can't help you there unfortunately.
[03:03] <voraistos> Zaggynl: Duke3D on linux ? is that possible ?
[03:03] <HumanPrototype> Hi, how do I install fbsplash on edgy?
[03:03] <Chousuke> voraistos: yes
[03:03] <catalytic> i wasnt using the lcd monitor when i first installed ubuntu
[03:04] <Zaggynl> voraistos, yep, I've already had it working, but I'm trying to get sound to work nwo
[03:04] <Chousuke> voraistos: duke3d is open source
[03:04] <mike1o> what are the main limitations of using ubuntu in a power pc?
[03:04] <Chousuke> the engine at least.
[03:04] <catalytic> i only swapped to the lcd as of tonight
[03:04] <voraistos> naaaah. duk3D aint opensource
[03:04] <dandaman32> catalytic: type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then find "Section "Device"" and change the Driver entry from fglrx to ati, then log out and back in
[03:04] <Chousuke> Well, as far as I know it is
[03:04] <catalytic> mike10:it doesnt have a start button
[03:04] <voraistos> i bought it 15 euros when it was released !
[03:04] <Chousuke> you still need the game files to play it though.
[03:05] <mike1o> catalytic, what start button?
[03:05] <voraistos> aaah. they opened the "3D" engine ,
[03:05] <Chousuke> but the engine has been made open source.
[03:05] <voraistos> ?
[03:05] <catalytic> sorry, it was a joke
[03:05] <mike1o> catalytic, u mean linke on off button?
[03:05] <voraistos> hey where can i get it ?
[03:05] <HumanPrototype> mike1o: he was referring to the windows start button
[03:05] <catalytic> mebbe i should of said "doesnt have an apple menu"
[03:05] <catalytic> :)
[03:06] <HumanPrototype> catalytic: as its a power pc it was probably a mac
[03:06] <catalytic> yessum
[03:06] <ifoi> hello all :)
[03:06] <mike1o> can i install a web server on a power pc? can i install i386 binaries? or do i have compile packages if the ppc ones don't exist?
[03:06] <Zaggynl> I used this guide to get the duke back: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1626974#post1626974
[03:06] <Chousuke> voraistos: google. :P
[03:06] <mike1o> HumanPrototype, windows what's that? :)
[03:07] <catalytic> its already on ati dadaman32
[03:07] <dandaman32> mike1o: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5
[03:07] <HumanPrototype> mike1o: i doubt i386 packages will work but surely apache is available for powerpc?
[03:07] <ifoi> anyone know (or may be can give me some url) about how to detect my internal modem (toshiba laptop) ?
[03:07] <voraistos> okok ;)
[03:07] <HumanPrototype> mike1o: they are the things in walls that let you see outsid
[03:07] <catalytic> er dandaman32
[03:07] <catalytic> its already on ati
[03:07] <dandaman32> catalytic: ok, interesting...i thought you said you made it to the testing part
[03:07] <catalytic> i already switched it back a while ago
[03:08] <mike1o> HumanPrototype, i got windows in my room, they let some light in... can u imagine an OS called like that?
[03:08] <catalytic> when i was trying to compare the fps in fgl_gears
[03:08] <catalytic> or whatever it is called
[03:08] <catalytic> yeah, i had made it to the testing part before
[03:08] <spoji> Good morning! question : is it possible to get different screen resolution from workspace to workspace ? Example : i need to have my workspace #1 in 1600x1200 and the workspace 2-3-4 in 800x600
[03:09] <mike1o> does ubuntu work on old ppc's?
[03:09] <dandaman32> spoji: no, workspaces are really just a couple of window manipulations behind the scenes, there's really no way to have a specific screen res for each workspace unless you code it yourself
[03:10] <spoji> k, ill not code it mysqlf :D thanx
[03:10] <dandaman32> mike1o: i'll have to try it, i have an old PowerPC upstairs, it runs mac os 7.5 and it has 8MB of RAM :)
[03:10] <dandaman32> lol
[03:12] <dandaman32> catalytic: sorry if i already asked this but did you try plugging the monitor into a different computer after it started acting strange?
[03:13] <catalytic> ill try it now
[03:14] <zyclop> where do i find in-depth documentation about raw printers?
[03:14] <dandaman32> zyclop: google is your friend ;)
[03:14] <HumanPrototype> Does anybody know how I could install fbsplash? There is a guide for breezy but it involves patching an old kerne
[03:15] <foobarian__> hi, anyone here from italy?
[03:15] <LjL> !it
[03:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:15] <opensea> huangzuobin, 
[03:16] <zyclop> dandaman32, well, whatever. anyways. umm thanks?
[03:16] <LjL> foobarian__: though, you aren't italian...? (judging form your ISP)
[03:16] <huangzuobin> opensea,yeah,hehe
[03:16] <mAIJK> Hi im going to install xubuntu on my very old Lappy. But I will only do this If I can manage to gett my WIRELESS USB STICK 11MBPS to work well with xubuntu.. Anyone know If ubuntu supports this kind of usbsticks?
[03:16] <foobarian__> LjL, thanks for that tip.  but yes, i'm not... i was just looking for driving tips :)
[03:16] <catalytic> dandaman32 works fine
[03:17] <catalytic> on my aple
[03:17] <tuqann> hey cfm, you still there
[03:17] <LjL> foobarian__: ahah... join #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[03:17] <foobarian__> hehe makes sense :P
[03:17] <dandaman32> catalytic: you tried rebooting and such?
[03:17] <catalytic> not yet
[03:18] <catalytic> i thought linux meant i didnt have to do such things :P
[03:18] <tuqann> does anyone know if cfm left the chan or no?
[03:18] <HumanPrototype> mAIJK: try plugging it in on a live cd and looking at lsusb to work out what driver it is then you can prepare to have it on hand
[03:18] <dandaman32> catalytic: go ahead and try rebooting, thats really the only suggestion i got left
[03:18] <catalytic> ok
[03:18] <catalytic> just before i do
[03:19] <catalytic> anyone had any experience with minicom?
[03:19] <xamox> when configuring a static IP in the /etc/network/interfaces what is the network section for?
[03:19] <catalytic> or does anyone know any apps i can use to access my cisco router via tcp-ip rather than serial? (my motherboard doesnt have serial)
[03:20] <dandaman32> catalytic: ive tried to use it, it doesnt work for me
[03:20] <catalytic> says tty8 is locked
[03:20] <catalytic> even when i sudo to it
[03:20] <catalytic> and if i swap to it, its full of ubuntu start up stuff
[03:20] <dandaman32> catalytic: i dunno, it should be letting you use a different tty
[03:21] <clazus> hi
[03:21] <clazus> someone knows when I will can download Fedora Core 6 ?
[03:21] <dandaman32> clazus: they delayed the release again by 2 days
[03:21] <catalytic> ah
[03:21] <catalytic> i think i know why
[03:21] <catalytic> i was running it in a screen
[03:21] <clazus> ;] 
[03:23] <xamox> clazus: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Core/Schedule
[03:26] <AdamMK> help i can't install Amarok 1.4.3. here's the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27090/
[03:26] <jrib> AdamMK: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[03:27] <Dexter_F> opensea: at the keys?
[03:27] <voraistos> alacarte wont start... i tried to reinstall it nothing does... do you know how do i edit the menus manually or make alacarte work ?
[03:27] <The_Machine> anyone heard of linux xp?
[03:28] <voraistos> AdaMK: go to the KDE channel, they will know better
[03:28] <opensea> Dexter_F, Yes.
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> The_Machine: Heard of it, yes, but that's all.
[03:30] <Dexter_F> opensea: totally off topic, I noticed you used... kanji? above - did you have to install fonts or did everything work out of the box?
[03:30] <harisund> Can someone explain to me why all of atd, anacron and cron run on my system? I know how to stop it (invoke-rc.d and update-rc.d) but the point is, why are all three running?
[03:31] <AdamMK> ok jrib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27092/
[03:32] <HumanPrototype> The_Machine: yes - its a russian distro that looks like windows
[03:32] <opensea> Dexter_F, OK!I will use english
[03:32] <Dexter_F> harisund: atd is one-shot, crons are recurring. cron only works real time, while anacron can execute jobs as soon as the machine comes up.
[03:32] <Dexter_F> opensea: ?
[03:32] <The_Machine> HumanPrototype: I'm relatively new to linux, using ubuntu at the moment.  Now, i'm assuming that "linux xp" is just using up a hacked up gnome desktop or something
[03:32] <The_Machine> so, i was thinking..  in order to learn the workings of linux better, to basically replicate IN ubuntu what they did in linux XP
[03:32] <elfranger> greetings all
[03:33] <The_Machine> either by transferring over the desktop manager that's there and being able to select it on bootup or something
[03:33] <Zaggynl> RAWR
[03:33] <The_Machine> i dunno
[03:33] <Zaggynl> the DUKE has returned!
[03:33] <harisund> Dexter_F, thanks for the info. Quite helpful :). Now I know the configuration for cron is in /etc/crontab and the scripts are in /etc/cron.{daily,hourly,weekly,monthly} .. what about for anacron and atd?
[03:33] <elfranger> I have just set up a new server, and moved my sites to it. Check this: http://www.tramp5.no/phpwcms
[03:33] <AdamMK> jrib heres the sources.list file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27092/
[03:33] <Zaggynl> gotta make a simple install of this
[03:33] <elfranger> any idea why it looks like that?
[03:33] <HumanPrototype> The_Machine: i havent used it but take a look on distrowatch and their website
[03:33] <Dexter_F> opensea: uh, no, that's alright. I just wanted to know if all those signs were available right away or if you had to install fonts
[03:33] <The_Machine> right, i've seen it, downloaded the ISO
[03:34] <The_Machine> i don't necessarily want to install it and dual boot with unbuntu - instead i want to extract the "xp" portion of that OS and put it onto my ubuntu gnome for playing around with
[03:34] <The_Machine> is that impossible?
[03:34] <HumanPrototype> The_Machine: try looking at the contents of the iso. if its a gnome them it will be in /usr/share/themes or ~/.themes
[03:34] <The_Machine> (or stupid, i guess would be the correct idea)
[03:34] <m14> elfranger: Did you install phpmodule?
[03:34] <The_Machine> hmm
[03:34] <Dexter_F> harisund: atd entries are created with the at command. it gives you a basic input prompt where you fill in the commands, then end with ctrl-D
[03:34] <xamox> The_Machine:  use a virtual machine
[03:34] <The_Machine> i see.  that's cool.
[03:35] <The_Machine> i'm using a virtual machine for ubuntu
[03:35] <The_Machine> heh
[03:35] <Dexter_F> harisund: about anacron: no clue, have a look at the manual
[03:35] <The_Machine> and i could install it
[03:35] <opensea> Dexter_F, Yes,I was used chinese characters before.sorry,my English is not good.
[03:35] <Dexter_F> same goes for at execution time syntax
[03:35] <harisund> Dexter_F, oh.. so there are no default atd commands that get run at some time that come with Ubuntu
[03:35] <HumanPrototype> can you run a virtual machine inside a virtual machine?
[03:35] <The_Machine> but instead just wanted to transfer that portion of it the "theme" as HumanPrototype has suggested
[03:35] <The_Machine> probably
[03:35] <Gnomer__> Mornin'.
[03:35] <elfranger> m14: how can I tell if the php module has been installed?
[03:35] <The_Machine> but it'd kill performance bad
[03:35] <The_Machine> heh
[03:35] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__: afternoon
[03:36] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, for you :P
[03:36] <Dexter_F> harisund: uh.. no, not that I knew. you mean like post-install? that would rather be dpkg's cup of tea
[03:36] <harisund> Dexter_F, ok .. .
[03:36] <harisund> Dexter_F, thanks a ton anyway
[03:36] <Dexter_F> harisund: yw
[03:36] <snoops> how are projects like xen going?
[03:36] <Isaacariah> Howdy
[03:37] <Gnomer__> So, HumanPrototype, how goes it? (Where are you that it's afternoon?)
[03:38] <Isaacariah> Is there a cleaner way of stopping resolv.conf being overwritten all the time than commenting out the make_resolv_conf routine in dhclient-script?
[03:39] <danilota> studi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
[03:39] <snoops> reason I ask is, I'm facing an annoying situation..there's some hardware I require to expand my knowledge and allow me to do a better job, but linux support for said items is very little compared to other os's.. One way of tackling it would be running windows and linux at the same time on xen, with a mac box next to that..
[03:40] <kuja> Is it uncommon for a 64M onboard graphics card to not support any acceleration?
[03:40] <mikm[sleep] > Brand?
[03:40] <kmaynard> snoops, use the tool you need for the job at hand. if it aint linux, it aint linux
[03:40] <m14> elfranger: Cut your httpd.conf
[03:41] <kuja> I can't quite recall, the computer is not by me (I haven't looked). I do believe it's VIA, though.
[03:41] <Isaacariah> VIA is kinda old isnt it?
[03:41] <jrib> adioe3: ah i didn't realize you were using kubuntu repos.  Not eally sure what's going on.  Try installing the package it complains about directly and see what it says
[03:41] <kmaynard> no
[03:41] <kmaynard> there are old via chipsets, but there's new ones too AFAIK
[03:41] <jrib> adioe3: hrmm ignore that, the person I was trying to nick-complete left
[03:42] <Isaacariah> is there any lasting problems i'll experience by commenting out the make_resolv_conf routine in dhclient-script?
[03:42] <adioe3> jrib: np ;)
[03:42] <kuja> All I know is, mine is a 64M
[03:42] <kuja> So it can't be *THAT* old
[03:42] <Isaacariah> true
[03:42] <kmaynard> Isaacariah, why would you do that?
[03:42] <elfranger> m14: the httpd.conf does not have anything in it under apache2 it seems
[03:42] <kmaynard> 64mb onboard is pretty good
[03:42] <shuan> hello
[03:43] <kmaynard> better than shared memory video
[03:43] <kuja> kmaynard: It should support some sort of acceleration, don't you think?
[03:43] <shuan> can someone help me out
[03:43] <Isaacariah> kmaynard, well it kept overwriting resolv.conf, with "nameserver 192.168.1.1", using my router for DNS lookups, which for some weird reason, was always returning "1.0.0.0" for any IP
[03:43] <Newbi8> WHY can't I play DVD's???????HELP
[03:43] <kmaynard> kuja, possibly, if there's good drivers for it
[03:43] <Isaacariah> so i've added my ISP's nameservers to resolv.conf, but it kept being overwritten
[03:43] <shuan> i have frostwire downloaded and installed but when i try to load it nothing happens
[03:43] <Isaacariah> so i commented out the routine
[03:43] <m14> elfranger: try http://dan.drydog.com/apache2php.html
[03:43] <Isaacariah> i was just wondering if there was a cleaner way of doing it
[03:43] <Isaacariah> other than fiddling with files like that
[03:43] <kuja> kmaynard: Apparently the only working driver from all available ones is vesa...
[03:44] <kmaynard> kuja, i assume you checked the forums?
[03:44] <CoMp4c7> I have installed rkhunter and it tell me that it have found dev/.static /dev/.udev  /dev/.initramfs Is it a problem?
[03:44] <kuja> I've checked, but couldn't find anything.
[03:44] <elfranger> hm, one should think that selecting the LAMP server option when installing ubuntu should result in a working server...
[03:44] <snoops> kmaynard, yeah.. My gripe is not wanting to run 3 computers next to each other on my workstation, and kvm switches as pretty much out of the question sadly..so if I can cut it down to two computers (one running xen with linux and windows) and one running os x, then it makes life a fair bit easier
[03:45] <kuja> kmaynard: I'm experience horrible desktop lag as I did with my TNT2
[03:45] <kuja> experiencing, even.
[03:45] <Newbi8> Is there someone here that can help me to get Dvd-playback on my system?
[03:45] <m14> elfranger: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26935
[03:45] <kmaynard> kuja, maybe get a little cheapo nvidia card at walmart...i did that, and life is better
[03:46] <apecat> Newbi8: the easiest way is getautomatix.com
[03:46] <Newbi8> apecat:Where and how?
[03:46] <apecat> to be spcific, follow the instructions here http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation
[03:46] <kuja> kmaynard: I could get a cheap 128MB nVidia card for about 60 bucks, but I wouldn't be satisfied. Because I had to spend money on something that should work.
[03:46] <kuja> By work, there weren't any problems on Windows.
[03:47] <kmaynard> kuja, you gotta pick your battles
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> Newbi8: There have been a lot of reports of automatix breaking systems, so I'd recommend just following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[03:47] <apecat> Newbi8: automatix will install potentially illegal support for restricted formats (blessed be the DMCA)
[03:47] <kmaynard> you're either upset bc your video doesnt work, or bc you dropped $60 and it does work
[03:47] <kuja> kmaynard: Makes me feel like I'm on Windows again.
[03:47] <kmaynard> p155 or get off the pot
[03:47] <mouseclonez> how can i tell that that ubuntu auto detected my serial ports correctly
[03:47] <kmaynard> kuja, apple makes good computers
[03:47] <mouseclonez> i see ttyS0 - ttyS20 or so
[03:48] <apecat> yeah, the ubuntu Wiki works fine too. however, in automatix you can select a wide variety of options, some of which are probably not needed
[03:48] <kuja> kmaynard: So I hear, but now I should go and get a whole new computer, eh :P
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> IF they don't break the entire system.  To each his own.
[03:49] <mike1o> is it possible to install ubuntu on a 180Mhz power pc?
[03:49] <mouseclonez> mike1o: yes but i wouldn't use a gui
[03:49] <kmaynard> kuja, all i'm saying is, you have a decision to make. linux support is what it is. unless you're a coder, you can't really change that. you either get a card or you don't.
[03:50] <mike1o> mouseclonez, server only?
[03:50] <kuja> Not a C coder, unfortunately.
[03:50] <mouseclonez> mike1o: I would try server first.
[03:50] <mouseclonez> mike1o: It doesn't come with all the bells and whistels that desktop comes with
[03:50] <kmaynard> mike1o, i would recommend server only...you could try something like fluxbox or windowmaker, something really light,but it still would probably crawl
[03:51] <kuja> kmaynard: Happen to know of a tool to detect and give human readable names for all my hardware?
[03:51] <kuja> Including integrated graphics?
[03:52] <kmaynard> kuja, os x
[03:52] <purnomo> hai
[03:52] <purnomo> newbie here
[03:52] <kuja> kmaynard: Software.
[03:52] <kuja> Well, software, excluding OS'
[03:52] <kmaynard> kuja, seriously, what's not readable?
[03:52] <purnomo> here the place for UBuntu mania...
[03:52] <kuja> kmaynard: "Unknown"
[03:53] <Isaacariah> whats the easiest way to write-protect my resolf.conf?
[03:53] <kmaynard> kuja, where are you seeing that
[03:53] <Isaacariah> resolv.conf*
[03:53] <purnomo> well, i want to ask you...who is open source mania?
[03:53] <kuja> kmaynard: Device manager.
[03:53] <purnomo> well, i want to ask you...who is open source mania?
[03:53] <purnomo> answer please
[03:53] <purnomo> use OPEN SOURCE
[03:54] <kuja> purnomo: Could you keep it to yourself?
[03:54] <mike1o> kmaynard, this is the target machine: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac/stats/powermac_8500_180.html do u think it's reasonable to try to install the server version into it?
[03:54] <henna> mm some kind of progressmeter would be nice for apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:54] <Newbi8> apecat:I've installed the automatix, but what do I do with it?
[03:54] <apecat> run it
[03:55] <apecat> and select the options you need
[03:55] <kuja> henna: Syntaptic has one, I think?
[03:55] <henna> mm
[03:55] <henna> does that work from the commandline?
[03:55] <Newbi8> apecat:But when I selected the icon, nothing happens!
[03:55] <kuja> henna: Synaptic is GUI
[03:55] <henna> (console even more specificly
[03:55] <henna> )
[03:55] <henna> so no use for me :(
[03:55] <kuja> henna: Python has apt bindings, so maybe you could write something like it in Python.
[03:56] <apecat> Newbi8: the icon in applcations -> system tools?
[03:56] <mike1o> mouseclonez, , this is the target machine: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac/stats/powermac_8500_180.html do u think it's reasonable to try to install the server version into it?
[03:56] <henna> kuja: mm, interesting
[03:56] <kmaynard> kuja, device manager sucks. try dmesg | less to get a real feel for what linux detects
[03:56] <plamoni> im trying to get my radeon mobility 9000 working on edgy eft... it seems to be loading everything fine according to my xorg logs, but I glxinfo tells me I don't have direct rendering... anyone have any suggestions?
[03:56] <Newbi8> Apecat:jupp
[03:56] <kuja> kmaynard: I'll try when I get home. Thanks anyways.
[03:56] <henna> somebody already asked me if I could get the search from apt to output like gentoo's portage
[03:56] <henna> I could learn python with it
[03:56] <kuja> henna: Would be good; Python is an excellent language and very easy to learn.
[03:57] <Newbi8> Apecat:Sorry!Got it going!Thanks!':)
[03:57] <kmaynard> henna, apt-cache search foo
[03:57] <apecat> Newbi8: ok :)
[03:57] <kmaynard> oh, nevermind
[03:57] <mouseclonez> mike1o: I would say it would install.  it would run slow until your gutted your kernal
[03:57] <henna> kmaynard: outputs  stuff htat's far too complicated to read :)
[03:57] <kmaynard> you want it to look like portage
[03:57] <dcordes> hello
[03:57] <m14> hi
[03:58] <mike1o> mouseclonez, ok i'm downloading the iso file i'll let u know... :)
[03:58] <kmaynard> henna, complicated?! it gives you the package name and description
[03:58] <henna> not necessarily like portage, but a lsightly beter understandable output
[03:58] <whyso> so, whens egdy eft final comming out?
[03:58] <mike1o> mouseclonez, what about the 32MB of RAM?
[03:58] <apecat> Newbi8: it will backup your old /etc/apt/sources.list file, teh place where ubuntu and debian systems store their repository info, so it's probably ok to let automatix overwrite and keeo its new settings
[03:58] <kmaynard> henna, try apt-cache search gaim
[03:58] <henna> kmaynard: yes and no indentation at all, no colors, just plain flat text
[03:58] <kmaynard> henna, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:58] <Nookie> hi! when watching videos on youtube i can see the videos but i dont hear any sound,... ANY IDEAS??
[03:59] <henna> kmaynard: to slow :)
[03:59] <mikm[sleep] > Nookie go to a terminal and type killall esd
[03:59] <plamoni> anyone? dri help?
[03:59] <dcordes> Nookie: i know this problem. just google and you will find a solution
[03:59] <plamoni> :-P
[03:59] <mikm[sleep] > Nookie Restart firefox
[03:59] <apecat> that way you will be able to install updates yourself. keep in mind though that this isn't the officially "supported" way of doing stuff in ubuntu. The RestrictedFormats wiki page is the way to go if you'r eparanoid
[03:59] <henna> should tackle it as soon as I manage to get this tellicoo script running
[03:59] <mouseclonez> mike1o: should be fine.  you will need to strip that kernel though
[03:59] <apecat> ( Newbi8 )
[03:59] <Nookie> will try mikm[sleep] 
[04:00] <gothenburg> bl'
[04:00] <kmaynard> henna, www.gentoo.org
[04:00] <mouseclonez> mike1o: if i was you i would try running dsl on it
[04:00] <mike1o> mouseclonez, like eliminate stuff? can i have LAMP running?
[04:00] <gothenburg> sker efter ett program p tv bokstver
[04:00] <Newbi8> Apecat:?
[04:00] <mouseclonez> mike1o: dsl = damn small linux
[04:00] <m14> gothenburg: 
[04:00] <gothenburg> men den blddrar frbi det
[04:00] <mike1o> mouseclonez, ok
[04:00] <gothenburg> m14: ?
[04:00] <gothenburg> >.<
[04:00] <gothenburg> wrong channel
[04:00] <apecat> Newbi8: check the line above my highlight for you, just wanted to make sure you got teh advice, forgot to highlight you in the first message
[04:01] <mouseclonez> mike1o: http://www.linuxtracker.com and search for dsl it is about 50meg or so i beleive
[04:01] <The_Machine> anyone know a good linux equivalent to 'advanced ip scanner' from radmin.com?
[04:01] <shuan> hi
[04:01] <dcordes> can someone please tell me what pack i need in order to get fglrx? i can't look it up in the wiki beacuse my x won't start since i switched from nvidia to ati and with the vesa driver x won't start either..
[04:01] <shuan> im having problems with frostwire
[04:01] <mouseclonez> mike1o: http://www.linuxtracker.org sorry about that
[04:01] <whyso> anyone know when 6.10 released?
[04:01] <shuan> anyone know why it wont start
[04:01] <maina> anyone know how to register domain on djbdns
[04:01] <Newbi8> Apecat:Got strong nerves!But thanks for the advice!haha:)
[04:02] <apecat> ok :)
[04:02] <The_Machine> dcordes - i can help what do you need me to look up (i'm new, but willing?)
[04:02] <shuan> anyone using lts
[04:03] <dcordes> The_Machine: hey that's nice :-) go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for "binaries ati"
[04:03] <The_Machine> no results..  hmm
[04:03] <apecat> Newbi8: you should probably check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats and read it while automatix is working, that will give you some basic insight in what it actually does
[04:03] <catalytic> how do i get a list off all the processes running?
[04:04] <catalytic> and kill one of them?
[04:04] <NiklasH_work> catalytic: top
[04:04] <catalytic> i tried kill -l
[04:04] <catalytic> but
[04:04] <catalytic> woah, massive
[04:04] <NiklasH_work> killall <process_name>
[04:04] <catalytic> then i use kill and the pid number?
[04:04] <NiklasH_work> yep
[04:04] <dcordes> is xorg-driver-fglrx the only pack i need to get the ati driver?
[04:04] <NiklasH_work> or press 'k' inside top
[04:04] <The_Machine> i didn't know top was a linux command..  i thought it was specific to another piece of hardware i use..  haha
[04:04] <maina> anyone know how to use djbdns?
[04:04] <catalytic> why killall and not kill?
[04:04] <The_Machine> what about killall
[04:04] <The_Machine> ah
[04:04] <catalytic> ok
[04:04] <The_Machine> lol
[04:04] <The_Machine> :)
[04:04] <snoop> catalytic: System - Administrator - SYstem Monitor (processes tab)
[04:04] <The_Machine> i know more than i thought i did
[04:05] <NiklasH_work> killall kills all processes with the name you specify
[04:05] <NiklasH_work> :)
[04:05] <catalytic> im in xubuntu
[04:05] <NiklasH_work> now you help me install openafs-modules ;)
[04:05] <The_Machine> hey dcordes - want me to send you the ati driver or something?
[04:05] <shuan> whats xubuntu
[04:05] <catalytic> and its gooood
[04:05] <catalytic> ok
[04:05] <dcordes> killall popmusic
[04:05] <The_Machine> hah
[04:05] <shuan> i hate pop music
[04:06] <shuan> its for pop tarts
[04:06] <The_Machine> i'm so old, i don't even know what's "pop" any more
[04:06] <catalytic> that top command, can i choose what column it is sorted by?
[04:06] <catalytic> eg make the command column alphabetic?
[04:06] <NiklasH_work> i think so. press ? to get the commands
[04:06] <maina> anyone know how to use djbdns?
[04:06] <Isaacariah> is there any reason why my routers DNS server would be resolving everything to 1.0.0.0 on ubuntu?
[04:06] <The_Machine> top --help or man top
[04:07] <dcordes> shuan: xubuntu is ubuntu with a different desktop. i think xfce desktop or so with a RAT
[04:07] <catalytic> ah yes, i use < or >
[04:07] <adioe3> How do I select the default sound card for KDE to use?
[04:08] <Newbi8> Is there any risk to install KDE instead of Gnome when everything is set up for Gnome?
[04:08] <shuan> dcordes: i'l jus stick to ubuntu lts
[04:08] <adioe3> Newbi8: not if you don't delete gnome?
[04:09] <Newbi8> Adioe3: Is it difficult to install KDE?
[04:09] <pty> Newbi8, not apart from your menus filling up with kde apps
[04:09] <maina> anyone know how to use djbdns?
[04:09] <adioe3> Newbi8: nope. just open up synaptic, click KDE and that's it
[04:10] <dcordes> shuan: i'm currently trying out edgy
[04:10] <benbalbo> g'day all! I've just upgraded to edgy and gnome-terminal doesn't work any more (The error was 'BadValue...). Googling points to possible problems with the nvidia driver. Don't suppose any one's experienced this or has any pointers?
[04:10] <pty> i think its safter to install kubuntu-desktop via synaptic?
[04:10] <sYnie> hello
[04:10] <adioe3> pty: probly :)
[04:10] <HumanPrototype> how can i get a graphical console like some other distros have?
[04:11] <sYnie> every time, i copy things from DVD that works perfekt. but when i try to copy things from a CDRom, i'll get a input/output error. thats what dmesg says: http://nopaste.php-q.net/247327
[04:11] <sYnie> any idea ?
[04:11] <adioe3> HumanPrototype: ???
[04:11] <catalytic> awesome
[04:11] <catalytic> i go synergy working with xubuntu and mac osx
[04:11] <HumanPrototype> adioe3: if you press ctrl alt F1 then you get a terminal instead of X, on other distros like suse you get a pretty background, how can i set this up on ubuntu?
[04:12] <adioe3> HumanPrototype: The background is set in the kernel, google it, but for the bigger resolution add this to GRUB on your kernel line: vga=0x31B
[04:12] <adioe3> that's for a resolution of 1280x1024
[04:13] <HumanPrototype> adioe3: i already have the fb on so i have a nicer res, thanks for the pointer with the bg
[04:13] <adioe3> for 1024x768 it something like vga=0x814
[04:13] <adioe3> not sure ....
[04:13] <sneakfast> #ubuntu.cz
[04:13] <adioe3> HumanPrototype: np
[04:14] <Gnomer__> [-NoX-] , HAI2U
[04:14] <pak-x> hi
[04:16] <[-NoX-] > Gnomer__ ?
[04:16] <Gnomer__> [-NoX-] , two charaters I guess is okay >:/
[04:16] <[-NoX-] > ^^
[04:16] <pak-x> a have done a bad mistake. I have installed ubuntu without swap. so I have done a new swap partition with partition magic. How can I use it now?
[04:16] <[-NoX-] > what means HAI2U ?
[04:17] <Gnomer__> "Hi to you"
[04:17] <[-NoX-] > ok :)
[04:17] <[-NoX-] > Hi :p
[04:17] <Gnomer__> I'm pissy today..Damn it.
[04:17] <Gnomer__> I hate steam, the can go castrate themselves.
[04:18] <psiborg> non-ubuntu related problem..
[04:18] <psiborg> yea bitch and mean somewhere else ;)
[04:18] <Gnomer__> Moan*
[04:18] <Zaggynl> Gnomer__, please state the nature of the bitchin'
[04:18] <Gnomer__> Zaggynl, you can't help no worries.
[04:18] <Gnomer__> Non-Ubuntu related.
[04:18] <Zaggynl> can't get steam to work?
[04:18] <catalytic> is it easy to setup a comp to to a network install of xubuntu?
[04:18] <Gnomer__> No, steam USED to work fine.
[04:19] <Zaggynl> oh? still works here though
[04:19] <Gnomer__> Take it to PM, this is off topic for the channel
[04:19] <catalytic> whats it called
[04:19] <pak-x> noone can halp me please ;-) iam new in linux. sorry
[04:19] <catalytic> IEX or somthing
[04:19] <catalytic> EoX?
[04:19] <Angryelf_> does the buffer of a terminal, possibly including emacs/vim display get logged somewhere?...not just .bash_history....but the output too?
[04:20] <pooh_beawr_> I was in here the other day and someone helped me, but I accidently erased it... I was wondering how you force a file system check on boot?
[04:20] <gothenburg> no
[04:21] <whyso> where is edgy eft disscussed?
[04:21] <aloysio> whyso, good question
[04:22] <Angryelf_> #ubuntu+1 ?
[04:22] <funtable> his
[04:23] <pooh_beawr_> any one know how to force a file system check?
[04:24] <pak-x> can no one help me with my swap problem?
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> pooh_beawr_: Look into the 'fsck' command.
[04:25] <pooh_beawr_> ok thanks :)
[04:25] <unfknblvbl> lol
[04:27] <yokobr> hi folks
[04:27] <jimdaniels> hi
[04:27] <pak-x> hi
[04:27] <yokobr> i need to install ktoon on ubuntu 64 =/
[04:28] <spanglesontoast> how can I be sure i'm using the correct fglrx driver for ati ?
[04:29] <yokobr> teesting
[04:29] <yokobr> try to create another session, with xgl...and if it fails, you just press ctrl alt backspace
[04:30] <spanglesontoast> well theres two drivers for ati ?
[04:30] <sloncho> hi. how do I make a flash drive to be mount rw when I plug it in? now it mounts ro
[04:30] <sergevn> Can someone help me with an boot issue with the Ubuntu x64 version?
[04:30] <yokobr> maybe, just question
[04:31] <sergevn> I booted Ubuntu 6.06 from cdrom, after i selected "start or install"
[04:31] <spanglesontoast> how can I see all the video drivers I have ?
[04:31] <darkanyel> help, why i can see my icons theme in xgl session en edgy?
[04:32] <wijnand> what's wrong when i get this status from my printer? Paused: /usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd failed
[04:32] <designdrem> alright guys... i moved over to edgy and it upgraded my kernel.. but i do not think it included dmraid in my initrd.. anyone have some guidance in making my system bootable?
[04:32] <sergevn> yokobr: It stays for like 5-7 minutes on "Mounting Root Filesystem", after that it goes to the shell where it extracted the kernel earlier, and giving this error: [158.1206347]  hda: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[04:32] <sergevn> [179.536331]  Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 358276
[04:33] <ast_freak> Hello, what is the preferred way to change the system-wide PATH and set other env variables?
[04:33] <sergevn> yokobr: after that it does nothing anymore :)
[04:33] <jimdaniels> i just bought an old 9600 pro from a friend to get hardware accerlation on my desktop. i removed the old nvidia-glx driver and did sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control as explained in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI . in xorg.conf under "driver" there is definetly fglrx. but when i restart and type fglrxinfo there is mesa something but now hardware accerl. any hints on what may be wrong?
[04:33] <davmor2> help please.  I have an old laptop I've been given I got xubuntu to install on it no problems.  However the sound doesn't work I found a workround online that is generic for linux rather than distro specific.  I got the module to install but when I reboot the snd_1688 is missing from lsmod how do I get the module to stay on?  I have placed it in /etc/modules but nothing.
[04:33] <madewokherd> is there somewhere I can find more information about the nvidia driver's security problem?
[04:34] <yokobr> what is your configuration in the mobo, like , ide 1 = hd , primari master.... bla bla bla
[04:34] <sergevn> yokobr: hmmm, i have to check that with my system off, brb after reboot :)
[04:36] <tec> how do i update 5.10 to 6.06 without completely reinstalling?
[04:36] <luckyed> Hi y'all! I have a small question: I'm using an encrypted home partition that automatically gets mounted during boot-up after typing a luks passphrase. Now I want to update from Ubuntu 6.10 to 6.10, but I'm not sure if the already set-up disk is going to work after the update. Anyone any ideas on this prob?
[04:36] <KenSentMe> !update > tec
[04:36] <KenSentMe> tec: see what ubotu tells you
[04:36] <luckyed> from 6.06 to 6.10....
[04:36] <sloncho> hi. how do I make a flash drive to be mount rw when I plug it in? now it mounts ro
[04:36] <pak-x> how can i use my swap? i have not created a swap partition on install -.- yes it hurts ;-) but now i have created a new swap with partition magic. how can i use it now? because i dont want to reinstall ubuntu
[04:37] <yokobr> anyone knows a way to boot from disket, then to live cd?
[04:37] <tec> thnx and oh i installed opera using synaptic though it wont show in the application button how do i load it?
[04:37] <luckyed> sloncho: edit /etc/fstab and replace ro with rw in the correct line
[04:37] <Dexter_F> pak-x: with *partition magic*?
[04:37] <KenSentMe> tec: probably by running opera in command line
[04:37] <aoupi> hi, I have been tinkering with my resolution, and now everytime I login eveyrithing is zoomed in. when I hit "ctrl alt +" it goes back to normal
[04:38] <pak-x> yes i also have "windows"... sorry ;-)
[04:38] <aoupi> here is my config file for xorg http://bartypotter.no-ip.org/~simon/temp/myxorg.conf
[04:38] <KenSentMe> pak-x: i think you can go to System|Administration|Drives
[04:39] <yokobr> aoupi, same as mine
[04:39] <sergevn> yokobr: Im back, I have the following config:
[04:39] <pak-x> yes he finds the swap partiton there, but its not used ...
[04:39] <yokobr> aoupi, but are you with xgl?
[04:39] <aoupi> yokobr: no, nothing fancy like that :)
[04:40] <sergevn> yokobr: Primary IDE Master: DVD drive, Primary IDE Slave: Nothing, Secondary IDE Master: 1st HDD with windows on it, Secondary IDE Slave: empty HDD where i have to install ubuntu on.
[04:40] <aoupi> I was playing around with xrandr yesterday and diceded that 1152x864@75 was what I wanted
[04:40] <pak-x> its hda5
[04:40] <aoupi> and I put that first in my xorg.conf, but now it is zoomed in when I log in
[04:41] <sheriff> hi my sound card dosent work everything is set but it doesnt work , its ensoniq
[04:41] <ast_freak> nm, got it.
[04:41] <yokobr> Try to put on primary ide master your HD, swapping with dvd.
[04:41] <KenSentMe> pak-x: run sudo gedit /etc/fstab in terminal and then put the line /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0 in there
[04:41] <sergevn> ok thx ill try that, ill let it know in the channel :)
[04:41] <pak-x> thank you. i will try it ;-)
[04:42] <aloysio> where's edgy discussed?
[04:42] <aoupi> sheriff: make sure the sound isn't muted, run alsamixer in a terminal and make sure the master channel isn't muted
[04:42] <KenSentMe> !edgy
[04:42] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:42] <jimdaniels> anybody on my fglrx issue?
[04:42] <yokobr> heyyy, please i need to boot a linux install from a floppy...but i dunno how
[04:43] <aoupi> !schedule
[04:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:43] <KenSentMe> jimdaniels: you may check #ati for fglrx problems
[04:44] <sheriff> auopi: well i ran it but the configuration was for another sound card of mine i have 2 so how can i change it?
[04:44] <aoupi> sheriff: alsamixer -c # where # is a number, first card has 0
[04:45] <mhamadt> anyone can help me to find step by step "how to set my breezy to become webserver"
[04:45] <sheriff> auopi: ok i'll try it now
[04:45] <pak-x> ok i will reboot now ;-) thank you KenSentMe
[04:46] <aoupi> mhamadt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:46] <aoupi> mhamadt: if you don't need mysql and php just skip thoose steps
[04:47] <mhamadt> aoupi and everyone : is there any website that can help me to configure my breezy b4 become webserver ( i mean like a hostname/routing/etc etc )
[04:47] <jimdaniels> KenSentMe: ok asked there for help
[04:47] <sloncho> luckyed: there is no fstab entry for the flash drive, while it is unplugged. it automounts. after it is plugged, the fstab entry is added, and it is ro
[04:47] <dv_> hello
[04:47] <jimdaniels> but maybe some1 can me help here.
[04:47] <jimdaniels> scroll up for my ati problem-
[04:48] <sheriff> auopi: i did run it again with my another sound card but there is still no sound everything is turned up
[04:48] <jimdaniels> ^^
[04:48] <pak-x> thank you ;-) it works
[04:48] <dv_> I have to reinstall stuff on my pc due to a head crash (I have a recent backup  of all data)
[04:48] <dv_> and now I wonder whether or not install edgy
[04:49] <dv_> it has many packages with versions I need and I usually installed manually before (because the versions in the reps were too old)
[04:49] <pak-x> now i have to make my second screen working :P
[04:49] <dv_> cmake for example
[04:49] <jimdaniels> dv_ use livecd until 26th lol
[04:49] <funtable> lol
[04:49] <aoupi> sheriff: maybe this thread can help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-188148.html
[04:50] <dv_> well, with apt-get dist-upgrade I can upgrade to the full release later anyway,
[04:50] <aoupi> sheriff: this seems easier http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Dapper:Setting_Default_Soundcard
[04:50] <dv_> but if the current version crashes often, i'll wait
[04:50] <_paranoid_> hi, on install ubuntu is failing to resize my hard disk, I've tried defragging it, any suggestions as to what else I can do (further to the problems, it's on a laptop without a floppy drive)
[04:50] <jimdaniels> i just bought an old 9600 pro from a friend to get hardware accerlation on my desktop. i removed the old nvidia-glx driver and did sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control as explained in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI . in xorg.conf under "driver" there is definetly fglrx. but when i restart and type fglrxinfo there is mesa something but now hardware accerl. any hints on what may be wrong?
[04:51] <pak-x> what is the best way to make my secont screen working?
[04:53] <francieleanezi> oi
[04:53] <francieleanezi> hallo
[04:53] <francieleanezi> hi
[04:53] <pak-x> hi
[04:53] <jimdaniels> hola
[04:53] <francieleanezi> wo wohnst du?
[04:53] <pak-x> na du
[04:53] <sheriff> aoupi: thanks the last one worked well
[04:53] <sharperguy> oh flip, dpkg segfaulted!
[04:53] <francieleanezi> hein?
[04:54] <francieleanezi> who?
[04:54] <nowhereman> BenC, sorry, because it's OT here but this kernel panic https://launchpad.net/bugs/61848 is not an amd-related issue; i'm on intel
[04:55] <kim> Hi....anyone got prob with LANG....I cant set default...any idea someone?
[04:55] <aoupi> kim: /etc/environment
[04:56] <kim> Thanks...i will look there
[04:56] <yokobr> shit....i cant find a job....
[04:56] <shriphani> guys why doesnt a deb i used to install stuff on one box work on another box ?
[04:57] <Alakazamz0r> cause you're gay.
[04:57] <Alakazamz0r> no, lol
[04:57] <xamox> is there a way I can see what services I have running in LAMP server edition?
[04:57] <Alakazamz0r> i dont know man.
[04:57] <BenC> nowhereman: Sorry about that, re-opened
[04:57] <Alakazamz0r> is it arch specific?
[04:57] <aoupi> xamox: ps aux or top
[04:57] <shriphani> Alakazamz0r, both boxes are i386
[04:57] <yokobr> maybe i can find a job with your mom
[04:57] <snoops> shriphani another box, with the same distrobution?
[04:57] <yokobr> Alakazamz0r
[04:57] <Alakazamz0r> hmm... weird.
[04:58] <shriphani> snoops, yes
[04:58] <xamox> aoupi:  is there a way to just see services and not processes as well?
[04:58] <Alakazamz0r> yeah yokobr
[04:58] <yokobr> shes so lonely
[04:58] <snoops> what error messages do you get, if any shriphani?
[04:58] <nowhereman> BenC, i have discovered now usb(2) issues... should I file a new bug ? still with -7 no probs
[04:58] <aoupi> xamox: you mean only things that are listening on a port?
[04:58] <Alakazamz0r> shriphani, maybe the package corrupted?
[04:58] <xamox> aoupi:  yeah
[04:58] <yokobr> bye guys....i have to go
[04:58] <sloncho> hi. how do I make a flash drive to be mount rw when I plug it in? now it mounts ro
[04:58] <aoupi> xamox: lsof -l | grep LISTEN
[04:58] <Alakazamz0r> shriphani, check the MD5 sum of the .deb package.
[04:59] <Alakazamz0r> or install it VIA dhcpd.
[04:59] <kim> It says: PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
[04:59] <kim> LANG="da_DK.UTF-8"
[04:59] <kim> LANGUAGE="da_DK:da:en_GB:en"
[04:59] <shriphani> Alakazamz0r, i am a bit of a n00b so the command would be helpful
[04:59] <LjL> !away > UbunTUX
[04:59] <Stormx2> shriphani: md5sum file.deb I think.
[04:59] <shriphani> ok Stormx2
[05:00] <Alakazamz0r> shriphani, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232110
[05:00] <jay__> I need some material about dual-core proecess programming. Can some one help and recommend some introductions.
[05:00] <shriphani> f392c85c5b891729fe9ee49ab98c9e64  w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[05:00] <Alakazamz0r> shriphani, example "md5sum swiftfox-1.5.0.6-3_amd64.deb"
[05:00] <kim> Can i remove en_GB:en?
[05:01] <progek> Hi everyone, I just installed xgl and beryl. Anyone know how to change the top and bottom image of the cube?
[05:01] <jay__> I need some material about dual-core processor programming under GNU/Linux, can some one recommend some introduction material?
[05:01] <snoops> jay__, err, well, I believe this is mostly handled by the host os..if you have an app which is multi-threaded, then the os automatically helps distribute the load across both cores
[05:02] <pak-x> when i open a textfile with the editor and you have to have root access, because when you have not he wont save it.... how can i do this with root, because he dont asks for password or anything? sorry ;-)
[05:02] <kim> The problem is only on danish sites....when i try to connect to a gameserver...
[05:02] <Alakazamz0r> shriphani, then check it against that .deb
[05:02] <dv_> jay__, you might be interested in atomic variables as well
[05:02] <progek> pak, open it in terminal
[05:02] <progek> sudo gedit file
[05:02] <progek> or any other editor
[05:02] <snoops> pak-x if the text editor you're opening is a gui use gksudo guiname filename
[05:03] <snoops> if it's a cli app, such as nano, use sudo nano filename
[05:03] <pak-x> thanks ;-)
[05:03] <snoops> and use your password, when it prompts
[05:03] <dv_> there are two branches: lock-free and lock-based. lock-free can be much more efficient, but is far harder to code. lock-based is the traditional way with mutex etc.
[05:03] <dude> what is the command to download KDE on ubuntu
[05:03] <Alakazamz0r> sudo apt-get
[05:03] <Alakazamz0r> dude sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:03] <kim> anyone tryed mandriva 2007?
[05:04] <HumanPrototype> Alakazamz0r: use aptitude - its meant to be better than apt-get
[05:04] <kim> I cant setup java there...
[05:04] <shriphani> Alakazamz0r, it gives me an alphanumeric thing
[05:04] <jay__> thanks, but are there some books or references on multi-thread programming under GNU/Linux?
[05:04] <dv_> hmm
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> ok.. then aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:04] <dv_> none that I know of. usually, pthreads are used, which are cross-platform (well, sort of)
[05:04] <dv_> but there are linuxthreads too
[05:05] <dude> alakazamzor: tnx
[05:05] <shriphani> Alakazamz0r, doesnt source-o-matic give repos for latest version of kde ?
[05:05] <Alakazamz0r> i dont know what source-o-matic is.
[05:05] <dv_> and, nptl
[05:05] <Alakazamz0r> but... im sure it does.
[05:05] <Alakazamz0r> just put in the command i said.
[05:05] <shriphani> !easysource
[05:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:05] <Alakazamz0r> you'll like it.
[05:05] <dv_> jay__, have a look at this: http://kerneltrap.org/node/429
[05:05] <dv_> this should give you some keywords for searching books for them
[05:05] <HxChris> Hi, could someone tell me if it's possible to install TV Tuner (WinTV USB) on linux?
[05:05] <catalytic> ok, im goign to sound like a tool here, but are hoary, breezy etc, different names given to the different linux dist?
[05:05] <shriphani> Alakazamz0r, an update ruined my kubuntu installation
[05:06] <jay__> dv_, thanks.
[05:06] <Alakazamz0r> i doubt that.
[05:06] <Alakazamz0r> have you checked any logs?
[05:06] <Alakazamz0r> Ubuntu is gonna make people linux-stupid.
[05:06] <Alakazamz0r> i can already feel it.
[05:06] <snoops> what languages jay__?
[05:06] <shriphani> Alakazamz0r, its like konqueror reported an error.......... it said it couldnt be associated with html
[05:07] <snoops> as far as implementation goes, setting up threads is pretty language specific
[05:07] <shriphani> then i downgraded a few packages
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> did you use this command to install kubuntu
[05:07] <dv_> ah, btw, jay__ for C++ there are the boost-threads, for java have a look at the "synchronized" keyword. also, functional languages like erlang are very easy to parallelize
[05:07] <shriphani> Alakazamz0r, no
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> ?
[05:07] <shriphani> i used the cd
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> then DO IT and i'll probably fix it.
[05:07] <shriphani> now i use ubuntu
[05:07] <HumanPrototype> Whats better, openbox or fluxbox? (i know its prob a matter of opinion)
[05:08] <acke_> java 5 anvnder den jre 142?
[05:08] <catalytic> ppl? whats breezy and dapper and hoary all reffering to? is there a webpage that has the different names and there versions?
[05:08] <acke_> does java 5 use jre 1.4.2?
[05:08] <Alakazamz0r> HumanPrototype, i like flux more
[05:08] <acke_> !java
[05:08] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:08] <shriphani> catalytic, different versions of ubuntu
[05:08] <Alakazamz0r> they're about the same.
[05:08] <HumanPrototype> catalytic: breezy is 5.10, dapper is 6.4, edgy is 6.10
[05:08] <acke_> It doesnt does it?
[05:08] <amorphous_> all0 allo - theres a command to find out what apps are using my soundcard (or which apps are using which files) but I cant find any references to it :( anyone ive me any clues?
[05:08] <HumanPrototype> catalytic: the first number is the year (2005, 2006 etc)
[05:08] <kim> use atomatix to install all thats missing in a normal Ubuntu
[05:08] <amorphous_> *give
[05:09] <kim> automatix...
[05:09] <HumanPrototype> catalytic: the second is the month (october = 10, april = 4)
[05:09] <catalytic> lol
[05:09] <catalytic> u is teh funneh
[05:09] <catalytic> oh
[05:09] <catalytic> your being serous
[05:09] <catalytic> sorry i thought u were having a go at me
[05:10] <amorphous_> anyone?
[05:10] <griffindodd> morning all
[05:10] <griffindodd> hoping for some graphics tweaking help
[05:10] <Alakazamz0r> no suck thing
[05:10] <snoops> jay__ http://www.amazon.com/GNU-Linux-Application-Programming/dp/1584503718 looks fairly good, and this looks good too http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3138
[05:10] <Alakazamz0r> it either works or it doesnt
[05:10] <Stormx2> amorphous_: Ah, I had that problem too...
[05:11] <griffindodd> yeah I'm not sure
[05:11] <amorphous_> Stormx2, i know theres a command - but i can't find it anywhere.
[05:11] <amorphous_> >:(
[05:11] <Stormx2> amorphous_: I couldn't find anything tho...
[05:11] <griffindodd> Got my ATi x800XL running but it's only pulling 700fps in GLXGears when most others are reporting 4000fps+
[05:11] <Stormx2> amorphous_: I guess it would be to do with alsa... but meh.
[05:13] <jay__> snoops, dv_, thanks sincerely.
[05:13] <jrib>  /sb end
[05:13] <catalytic> if i do uname -r and it gives me this 2.6.15-27-k7
[05:13] <catalytic> what do i have?
[05:13] <catalytic> breezy, dapper?
[05:13] <amorphous_> Stormx2, there is... it's not Alsa - it's a general command and it tells you what files are open (ie dev/snd) and what apps opened them
[05:14] <jrib> amorphous_: lsof or fuser maybe
[05:14] <amorphous_> Anyone else have any idea?
[05:14] <jrib> catalytic: do lsb_release -c
[05:14] <skybox_Dominion_> quick question, is there something similar like Microsoft microsoft dynamics ax for linux?
[05:15] <amorphous_> jrib: yeah - that seems to ring a bell... thanks man. Stormx2 , you get that?
[05:15] <catalytic> ah
[05:15] <catalytic> i see
[05:15] <catalytic> dapper
[05:15] <catalytic> now how do i upgrade to edgy?
[05:15] <catalytic> :)
[05:15] <jrib> catalytic: you realize edgy is still not released as stable?
[05:15] <nolimitsoya_____> catalytic, dont. not yet anyway
[05:15] <sheriff> well how can i download flash player 6 or higher one cuz i have flash but some pages said i have an old version of it
[05:15] <Stormx2> amorphous_: lsof | grep "/dev/snd"
[05:15] <skybox_Dominion_> nothing eh?
[05:15] <nolimitsoya_____> the upgradepath is buggy, at best
[05:16] <nolimitsoya_____> du a clean install instead, if you want to run edgy
[05:16] <nolimitsoya_____> *do
[05:16] <jrib> sheriff: flash 7 is the version you get by installing flashplugin-nonfree
[05:16] <jrib> upgrading should work fine...
[05:16] <nolimitsoya_____> if you keep you /home untouched, every one of your settings will be preserved.
[05:16] <nolimitsoya_____> jrib, i, and several others have a different experience ;)
[05:17] <catalytic> ok
[05:17] <Load> hi
[05:17] <catalytic> but some people have said that the ati 9550 tends to install a lot easier on the edgy
[05:17] <warlock_> How to kill all process starting with hlds ?
[05:17] <HumanPrototype> Whats the difference between openbox and fluxbox? does openbox have the bar at the bottom?
[05:17] <steve_> just wondered if anybody here knows much about proftpd?
[05:17] <Boglizk> Where do i edit/see the list of "Sessions"?
[05:18] <HumanPrototype> nolimitsoya: dont forget they will need /home on a seperate partition
[05:18] <griffindodd> so nobody knows how to troubleshoot slow Ati performance then?
[05:18] <amorphous_> Stormx2, Oh yeah! thanks gents - that was driving me mad
[05:18] <nolimitsoya> HumanPrototype, or a tar :)
[05:18] <xamox> hey, do I need to do something special to the mysqld to allow outside connections? It's running and I've checked listening ports on my system but it's not on 3306, and I haven't changed any default settings.
[05:18] <HumanPrototype> steve_: there is a gproftpd prog in the forums that is a gtk gui for setting it up
[05:18] <catalytic> what have u got griffon?
[05:18] <catalytic> what ati card?
[05:18] <HumanPrototype> nolimitsoya: yeah, that too...
[05:18] <griffindodd> I have an x800XL
[05:18] <steve_> Human - tnx
[05:19] <zyclop> has anybody in here sucsessfully used sane?
[05:19] <catalytic> im about to try this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348911 to see if i can get the fglx drivers working
[05:19] <steve_> there is a gproftpd prog in the forums that is a gtk gui for setting it up
[05:19] <steve_> there is a gproftpd prog in the forums that is a gtk gui for setting it up
[05:19] <steve_> there is a gproftpd prog in the forums that is a gtk gui for setting it up
[05:19] <HumanPrototype> how can i view images from the console?
[05:19] <catalytic> who u talking to steve?
[05:19] <griffindodd> yeah I have the fglx working but it's very slow
[05:19] <steve_> oh srry
[05:19] <warlock_> How to kill all process having "hlds" in them ?
[05:19] <HumanPrototype> zyclop: i have with xsane
[05:19] <Shish> HumanPrototype: if you have imagemagick installed, "display <image.jpg>"
[05:19] <steve_> didnt mean to repeat that
[05:20] <steve_> new to this
[05:20] <jrib> warlock_: take a look at pkill
[05:20] <rambo3> wineboot
[05:20] <HumanPrototype> Shish: does that need x?
[05:20] <Shish> AFAIK "eog" is eye of gnome, the gnome image viewer, installed by default
[05:20] <warlock_> would killall -9 hlds* work ?
[05:20] <zyclop> HumanPrototype: did you install sane-backends?
[05:20] <Shish> ye; if you want something entirely text based, look for cacaview (in libcaca utils, or something like that)
[05:21] <Shish> it converts images to coloured ascii art~
[05:21] <HumanPrototype> zyclop: no install sane and sane-utils then check to see if your backend is included by looking in /usr/sane.d/dll.conf
[05:21] <HumanPrototype> Shish: great,thanks
[05:22] <zyclop> HumanPrototype, well, the sane website says, it's supportet, I'll see what /usr/sane.d/dll.conf says
[05:22] <Shish> if you're physically on the box you're using, there's also a viewer which can display straight onto the console framebuffer, but I can't remember anything about it other than that that's what it does..
[05:22] <catalytic> hmm
[05:23] <catalytic> im using xubuntu whish i think uses xorg by default
[05:23] <Alakazamz0r> all of them use xorg by default.
[05:23] <catalytic> one of the replies to this guide says that u need to use xree86
[05:23] <zyclop> HumanPrototype, looks like i don't have the folder /usr/sane.d
[05:23] <catalytic> Xfree86
[05:23] <Alakazamz0r> catalytic, with what?
[05:23] <Peggerr> does openvpn work on nic's that have mulitipule vip?
[05:24] <catalytic> just the gui
[05:24] <catalytic> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348911
[05:24] <SuperMiguel> when you are buying a domain name what is the difference between public and private??
[05:24] <catalytic> thats the one im about to wgo through
[05:24] <Boglizk> Where do i edit/see the list of "Sessions"?
[05:24] <Subhuman> join /#ubuntu-edgy
[05:24] <catalytic> me?
[05:24] <Subhuman> how did i mess that up?
[05:24] <Subhuman> :P
[05:25] <catalytic> lol
[05:25] <Subhuman> wrong channel too...
[05:25] <Subhuman> #ubuntu+1
[05:25] <Alakazamz0r> catalytic, try this
[05:25] <Alakazamz0r> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:25] <HumanPrototype> so are there any license differences between openbox and fluxbox?
[05:25] <catalytic> yeah and choose the fglrx
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> when you are buying a domain name what is the difference between public and private??
[05:26] <catalytic> i tried that already
[05:26] <catalytic> and its still saying mesa is installed
[05:26] <Alakazamz0r> catalytic, whats the output of glxinfo |grep render
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> when you are buying a domain name what is the difference between public and private??
[05:27] <catalytic> direct rendering: No
[05:27] <catalytic>     GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture
[05:27] <catalytic> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:27] <Alakazamz0r> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver
[05:27] <Alakazamz0r> do that and paste me the output
[05:27] <catalytic> as a PM?
[05:28] <Alakazamz0r> in here is fine, its 3 lines
[05:28] <Alakazamz0r> maybe 4
[05:28] <catalytic>         Driver          "kbd"
[05:28] <catalytic>         Driver          "mouse"
[05:28] <catalytic>   Driver        "wacom"
[05:28] <catalytic>   Driver        "wacom"
[05:28] <catalytic>   Driver        "wacom"
[05:28] <catalytic>         Driver          "fglrx"
[05:28] <Alakazamz0r> hmm
[05:28] <catalytic> thast an old wacom
[05:28] <catalytic> that uses serial
[05:29] <zyclop> am i going to ruin my box if i build the sane-backends source?
[05:29] <catalytic> and is plugged into a usb/serial hub
[05:29] <LjL> Alakazamz0r: actually, 3 or 4 lines is *not* fine. please suggest the use of the pastebin for anything that's not just one line...
[05:29] <Alakazamz0r> sorry LjL
[05:29] <catalytic> which i pulled out ages ago, and it doenst seem to of updated
[05:30] <joel_> .
[05:30] <zyclop> brb, dinner
[05:32] <KenSentMe> Is it possible to run a text install from a livecd?
[05:33] <pak-x> i have installed wine, but i can just choose winefish and tellico?
[05:33] <catalytic> its is if it is the xubuntu alternate cd
[05:33] <Alakazamz0r> catalytic, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:33] <catalytic> ok, anything u want me to select different than before?
[05:33] <catalytic> autodetct?
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> yes
[05:34] <catalytic> it picks it up as a 9600
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> make sure flgrx or whatever is a module loaded @ boot.
[05:34] <catalytic> and its not, its a 9550
[05:34] <yome> Hi.  I'd like to install Lua 5.1 in Ubuntu.  According to <http://www.mail-archive.com/dapper-changes@lists.ubuntu.com/msg11679.html> it seems it was accepted in Dapper, but apt-get install'ing lua50 only installs version 5.0.  What can I do to get the latest version of that package?  Is there the equivalent of "unstable" for Ubuntu?
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> then select that
[05:34] <catalytic> how do i make sure? make sure it is in the /modules directory?
[05:34] <kes> hi all boys
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> It'll give you an option to enable them catalytic
[05:35] <catalytic> its asking me what to associate the card as, and it has put details for a 9600 in instead of the 9550
[05:35] <catalytic> keep going?
[05:35] <hype> hi
[05:36] <phlux> Anyone know if ubuntu still works with the D-Link DWL-650 Wireless Ethernet card?
[05:36] <hype> isnt there a tool like fglrxinfo for nvidia?
[05:36] <catalytic> yes
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> put in the details for the 9550 if you can.
[05:36] <catalytic> i just set it up today on my girlfriends old lappy
[05:36] <catalytic> but im not sure what the exact details are
[05:36] <catalytic> what revision do you have phlux?
[05:37] <s_spiff> hey, what other substitues are ther for Metacity?
[05:37] <catalytic> on the card it has a a1 or a c1 or a e1
[05:37] <Eddieduce> I need help installing Windows Firefox on Ubuntu through Wine.  Can anyone help?
[05:37] <phlux> catalytic: revision M
[05:37] <catalytic> /
[05:37] <catalytic> ?
[05:37] <Alakazamz0r> catalytic, have you done everything on this page http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348911
[05:37] <catalytic> oops, sorry i installed the 630
[05:37] <Alakazamz0r> its pretty exact.
[05:38] <catalytic> not yet
[05:38] <folp> Hi, has anyone having problems with mysql 5.0 from Edgy?
[05:38] <folp> Me aside, that is.
[05:38] <folp> $ mysqld
[05:38] <folp> mysqld got signal 4;
[05:39] <amayera> hi
[05:39] <amayera> I am using dm-crypt with edgy and my cryptdisks should be mounted with /etc/init.d/cryptdisks-early, but usplash prevents the passphrase question from being showed. this is rather annoying as I have to do all by hand.
[05:40] <Intangir_> has anyone tried to watch videos off of video.msn.com? it wont let linux users watch videos
[05:40] <Intangir_> hell i dont think it even lets firefox users watch videos
[05:40] <Eddieduce> wine
[05:40] <catalytic> it says to uninstall all the linx-restricted drivers
[05:40] <catalytic> is that correct?
[05:40] <Ekushey> lolz
[05:40] <Eddieduce> Anyone?
[05:40] <SuperMiguel> i just brought a domain, where is says forward domains i have to put my ip address?
[05:41] <Linuturk_code> Eddieduce, why do you want to do that?
[05:41] <Linuturk_code> Eddieduce, FF is already installed
[05:41] <Hoxzer> wine: exists lstat socket : No such file or directory <- I get this error when I run cvscedega any ideas?
[05:42] <KenSentMe> Is it possible to run a text install from a ubuntu livecd?
[05:42] <nolimitsoya> KenSentMe, no :)
[05:43] <HumanPrototype> KenSentMe: no - you need the alternate install cd
[05:43] <nolimitsoya> at least,you arnt supposed to :P
[05:43] <KenSentMe> nolimitsoya: what do you mean by that?
[05:43] <catalytic> alakazamor
[05:43] <LjL> !alternate
[05:43] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:43] <HumanPrototype> nolimitsoya: i guess you could g into a term then install debootstrap and do a totally manual install but i wouldnt recommend it
[05:43] <catalytic> alakazamzor
[05:43] <nikin> hy... is there any GUI application to partition and format a Hard disk?
[05:43] <KenSentMe> LjL: i know what alternate is
[05:43] <catalytic> yeah, the installer
[05:44] <nolimitsoya> that i guess you could make it work, just a lot of brute force, some hacking and dirty tricks, but you arent supposed to and the result would probably be both messy and inferior to the alternate cd
[05:44] <LjL> nikin: GParted. You have it installed.
[05:44] <nikin> ty
[05:44] <KenSentMe> nolimitsoya: ah, i get what you mean
[05:45] <KenSentMe> Bit strange that there's no text mode option for installing. If someone got a livecd they have to download some other if that one fails
[05:45] <bluefox83> ok, i need to change the group and user permissions on a directory in terminal...
[05:45] <nikin> i have a laptop HD in an USB rack anf want to make a HPFS partiton on it
[05:45] <nikin> to transfer some stuff from a mac
[05:45] <bluefox83> is it chgroup user dir ?
[05:45] <LjL> KenSentMe, I think the Desktop CD is organized so differently that adapting the text-mode installer to it would be a chore.
[05:45] <catalytic> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348911
[05:45] <sharperguy> how long should "dpkg --configure -a" take to run?
[05:45] <nolimitsoya> KenSentMe, yes there should be an option in the desktop cd boot menu instead, imh...
[05:46] <nolimitsoya> *imho
[05:46] <KenSentMe> LjL: probably
[05:46] <vollmer> having trouble with a dell e1505 randomly not outputing sound, all apps claim that they are working, alsamixer shows it unmuted, only fix is to reboot... which is annoying
[05:46] <catalytic> those first steps about completely removing all fglrx and linux-restricted
[05:46] <balony> What package is this from: #include <GL/gl.h> ?
[05:46] <catalytic> is that going to destroy my system?
[05:46] <bluefox83> whats the group change command?
[05:46] <vollmer> It's using the SigmaTel STAC9200 driver, anyone else see something similar?
[05:46] <vollmer> err, that's the chip can look up the kernel drive if so desired
[05:46] <jadrifter> Morning all.  I'm having trouble with .wav lossless encodings with sound-juicer.  I get the "Sound Juicer could not extract this CD. Reason: Could not link pipeline".  Anyone care to give me a clue as to how to proceed?
[05:47] <Intangir> balony: probably libGL-dev or something like that
[05:47] <LjL> balony: mesa-common-dev mingw32-runtime nvidia-glx-dev nvidia-glx-legacy-dev
[05:47] <LjL> bluefox83: chgrp
[05:47] <bluefox83> ty
[05:48] <catalytic> please anybody?
[05:48] <balony> Intangir, ljl: I have all those installed.. BUt there is not gl.h in /usr/include/GL/
[05:48] <catalytic> does going into synaptic and removing all of your linux-restricted packages going to pooch my computer?
[05:48] <LjL> balony: mesa-common-dev: usr/include/GL/gl.h
[05:49] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, only if you need a module in the restricted modules package :)
[05:49] <sharperguy> how long should "sudo dpkg --configure -a" take to run? anyone know?
[05:49] <balony> LjL: wtf.. mesa-common-dev is already the newest version
[05:49] <catalytic> im following this guid
[05:49] <catalytic> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348911
[05:49] <LjL> balony: well, admittedly i'm on Edgy. let me see what about Dapper.
[05:49] <nolimitsoya> sharperguy, do it once, put a 'time' in front of the command, and let us know :)
[05:49] <catalytic> i think i am supposed to reinstall them again after
[05:49] <sharperguy> lol too late
[05:49] <LjL> balony: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=gl.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[05:50] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, then it wont be a problem, as long as you dont reboot
[05:50] <catalytic> ah i see
[05:50] <LjL> balony: it definitely looks like it should be there. what about "dpkg -L mesa-common-dev"?
[05:50] <catalytic> ok
[05:50] <catalytic> fingers crossed, thanks
[05:50] <sharperguy> I had to run in because dpkg segfaulted
[05:50] <bulmer>  how can I tell if am using Dapper or Edgy?
[05:50] <LjL> bulmer: cat /etc/issue
[05:50] <bulmer> okay
[05:50] <catalytic> lsb_release -c
[05:51] <balony> LjL: ms@struct:~$ dpkg -L mesa-common-dev|grep gl.h
[05:51] <balony> nothing
[05:51] <catalytic> bulmer: lsb_release -c
[05:51] <zyclop> am i going to ruin my box if i build the sane-backends source?
[05:51] <LjL> balony: that grep's syntax is wrong
[05:51] <bulmer>  thanks
[05:51] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, are you sure you are following the right guide, and not a guide for hoary when you are using dapper or edgy?
[05:51] <LjL> balony: dpkg -L mesa-common-dev | grep "gl\.h"
[05:51] <HumanPrototype> zyclop: what scanner do you want to install?
[05:51] <ariane> \part
[05:51] <catalytic> im using dapper
[05:51] <LjL> ariane: forward slash
[05:51] <balony> LjL: it works, but still. Nothing with your either.
[05:51] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, and you are folowing a guide for hoary?:)
[05:52] <zyclop> HumanPrototype, it's a hp scanjet 3500c
[05:52] <catalytic> i think only the first two steps at the top relate to hoary
[05:52] <ephemeros> yo! \m/
[05:52] <catalytic> is there a dapper specific guide?
[05:52] <HumanPrototype> zyclop: is it usb?
[05:52] <LjL> balony: what version does "apt-cache policy mesa-common-dev" report?
[05:52] <nolimitsoya> !ati
[05:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:52] <zyclop> HumanPrototype, yes, it is
[05:52] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, folow that link :)
[05:52] <HumanPrototype> zyclob can you pastebin lsusb for me?
[05:53] <balony> LjL: Installed: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8
[05:53] <Eddieduce> Linuturk..:Ubuntu Firefox does nto support Shockwave.
[05:53] <LjL> balony: try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install mesa-common-dev"
[05:53] <zyclop> !pastebin
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:53] <balony> LjL: there we go... :)
[05:53] <DarkAnyel> lot af help plz!
[05:54] <balony> LjL: funky
[05:54] <DarkAnyel> i cant login in ubuntu
[05:54] <ReverseBlade> DarkAnyel, what happens ?
[05:54] <DarkAnyel> everytime that i press a button of the keyboard it crash
[05:54] <ravenwritingdes1> how do you start ubuntu in console mode
[05:55] <LjL> balony: couldn't think of a reason why that file would have been removed....
[05:55] <DarkAnyel> the last command that i put was : xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.es
[05:55] <ReverseBlade> ravenous, just CTRL F2
[05:55] <zyclop> HumanPrototype, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27102/
[05:55] <ReverseBlade> ravenwritingdes1,  just CTRL F2
[05:55] <balony> LjL: strange stuff
[05:55] <catalytic> what is the difference between k7 and k7-smp ?
[05:55] <catalytic> i have an amd xp
[05:55] <ravenwritingdes1> ReverseBlade: in start up or from login (because I can't have the xserver running at all)
[05:56] <ReverseBlade> DarkAnyel, make CTRL F2 and see about the log file in /var/etc/Xorg.log.0
[05:56] <ianmacgregor> I would like to start Ubuntu in console mode rather than a gui loin, how do I do that?
[05:56] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, smp is for dualcore/dual
[05:56] <catalytic> ah
[05:56] <Eddieduce> I have run the command 'wine Firefox\ setup\ 1.5.0.7.exe'  Has anyone managed to get it working for them?
[05:56] <catalytic> ok, thanks
[05:56] <nikin> i ame trying qtparted but it cant create HPFS
[05:56] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, smp stands for symetric multiprocessing
[05:56] <ReverseBlade> ravenwritingdes1, after X crashes just hit CTRL F2
[05:56] <DarkAnyel> what should i see ReverseBlade?
[05:56] <trappist> Eddieduce: I don't imagine a lot of people have tried
[05:56] <nikin> or is there any other fS that is supported by both Lin and Mac?
[05:57] <nolimitsoya> Eddieduce, why would you run firefox through wine instead of naitive?
[05:57] <ReverseBlade> DarkAnyel, the log files, in /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[05:57] <ravenwritingdes1> Reverse:  No, X isn't crashing, but the nvidia driver I want to install will not let you have xorg running at all.
[05:57] <ReverseBlade> DarkAnyel, that was one of them
[05:57] <ianmacgregor> Eddieduce: Why would you run firefox in wine?
[05:57] <ravenwritingdes1> I just want to get a regular console on startup
[05:57] <ReverseBlade> ravenwritingdes1, just wait enough that everything settles after booting, then to what I say
[05:57] <ianmacgregor> ravenwritingdes1: Me too
[05:57] <DarkAnyel> gonna see
[05:58] <stat1c> Hi, I'm having trouble with my nforce2 (abit nf7s v2) onboard sound... it works in the dapper live cd, and at the login screen (plays the little drum noise...) but after i log in, clicking the volume control panel gives me errors ("No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.") and there is no sound... *deep breath*
[05:58] <ReverseBlade> ravenwritingdes1, you may also boot in safe mode
[05:58] <ravenwritingdes1> allright
[05:58] <ravenwritingdes1> thanks
[05:58] <ianmacgregor> ReverseBlade: That doesn't answer our questions. ravenwritingdes1 and I want to start in console not a gui login
[05:58] <Eddieduce> Probably not but I know some in the night group had.  Anyone here?  I am setting up a master PC that will be used to replace Windows in the masses!
[05:58] <nolimitsoya> stat1c, after installation, install drivers from nvidia.com
[05:59] <nolimitsoya> Eddieduce, sudo apt-get install firefox saves you time, and the users memory and processingpower
[05:59] <stat1c> nolimitsoya, i downloaded something similar through synaptic, or is it completely different? ill just find what its called...
[05:59] <ianmacgregor> Eddieduce: I have been doing that for almost a year, I have helped 100+ people switch to Linux :)
[05:59] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, that you have to remove running gdm from your init scripts. I don't see it is necessary. If you want to fix something you can always try safemod or ctrl F'
[05:59] <wako33> anyone have a good list of software to put on a new ubuntu installation? i mean, apps that are "must haves"?
[05:59] <Eddieduce> ianmacgregor: firefox does not support shockwave which will be required for this lab environment.
[05:59] <ReverseBlade> wako33, www.getautomatix.com
[05:59] <LjL> !automatix
[05:59] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:59] <ianmacgregor> ReverseBlade: I understand that you don't see it as necessary, but the purpose of this channel is to get a question asnwered :)
[06:00] <ianmacgregor> Eddieduce: Fair enough
[06:00] <Falstius> I'm running dapper and have a SATA harddrive ... when I copy from that harddrive I see "DriveStatusError BadCRC" and "DriveReady SeekComplete Error" a bunch of times in /var/log/messages.  However, neither fsck nor smartctl report any problems.   Anyone have a suggestion?
[06:00] <Linuturk_code> wako33, just to caution you, I've had problems with automatix recently
[06:00] <wako33> thx
[06:00] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, I can search it in google and tell it to you in 5 min
[06:00] <sharperguy> Your not supposed to recommend  automatix here
[06:00] <ianmacgregor> ReverseBlade: Please do not recommend automatix in this channel
[06:00] <LjL> wako33, the "must have"'s, as intended by the Ubuntu developers, are probably the ones that are shipped by default, and to a less degrees the entire contents of the Main repository.
[06:00] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, you can do it as well, it is a simple question
[06:00] <sharperguy> see
[06:00] <nolimitsoya> Falstius, faky satacable?
[06:00] <zyclop> HumanPrototype, are you still there?
[06:00] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, you are not the authority to tell me what I recommend
[06:00] <susscorfa> does someone know how to had cd repositries from a terminal
[06:00] <susscorfa> ?
[06:01] <sharperguy> It works very well for me but:
[06:01] <sharperguy> !worksforme
[06:01] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:01] <LjL> susscorfa: "apt-cdrom add"
[06:01] <susscorfa> thx LjL
[06:01] <Eddieduce> nolimitsoya: Is this command for installing the Windows version?
[06:01] <ianmacgregor> ReverseBlade: Please just answer people's questions instead of all this. I don't want to have to place you on my ignore list.
[06:01] <nolimitsoya> no, thats for the ubuntuversion, Eddieduce
[06:01] <HumanPrototype> how do i quit in irssi?
[06:01] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, what do you want exactly ?
[06:01] <humbraro> Falstius, that might be your hdd controller going bad
[06:01] <LjL> ReverseBlade, why do you have to put it as a matter of "authority"?
[06:01] <Linuturk_code> HumanPrototype, i believe you type /quit
[06:01] <HumanPrototype> zyclob
[06:02] <nolimitsoya> Eddieduce, if you need shockwave badly, perhaps there is som other naitive browser that could be useful?  :)
[06:02] <HumanPrototype> zyclop: yes sorry - im at work so had to run off
[06:02] <HumanPrototype> Linuturk_code: thanks
[06:02] <LjL> ReverseBlade, ianmacgregor: and, can we move this to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[06:02] <ReverseBlade> because I strongly believe automatix is the best solution for most of the people here
[06:02] <ianmacgregor> ReverseBlade: I'll ask someone else, you don't seem to want to answer my question that will allow me to handle my system the way I want.
[06:02] <catalytic> ok im about to reboot
[06:02] <Eddieduce> Thanks, I already have the Ubu version.
[06:02] <zyclop> HumanPrototype, np. did you get the link?
[06:02] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Agreed
[06:02] <catalytic> but last time i did this it never come back up
[06:02] <HumanPrototype> zyclop: no - sorry - i missed it
[06:02] <catalytic> if it doesnt come back up what can i do?
[06:02] <Falstius> humbraro:  ... the other two drives seem okay, but I really haven't checked.  I'll look into that.
[06:02] <Eddieduce> What other native browsers are there?
[06:03] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, ok ask someone else
[06:03] <zyclop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27102/
[06:03] <nolimitsoya> ReverseBlade, id suggest that those in need of things lika automatix get mepis instead, to save them time and trouble
[06:03] <humbraro> Falstius, not the ata controller, but the controller on the drive itself - i had a drive go south that way a couple of years ago
[06:03] <nolimitsoya> (that is, mepis instead of ubuntu, not automatix)
[06:03] <Linuturk_code> Eddieduce, are you running gnome or KDE?
[06:03] <ReverseBlade> nolimitsoya, they may not want to work with KDE, which I dont
[06:03] <nolimitsoya> true :)
[06:03] <Eddieduce> Gnome.
[06:03] <Linuturk_code> Eddieduce, have you tried Ephany?
[06:04] <mouseclonez> I have a very tough question
[06:04] <ReverseBlade> nolimitsoya, I just believe automatix is the best solution for most of the newbies. That is why I recommend it
[06:04] <humbraro> Falstius, either way, i would move any important data off that drive immediately til you can get it worked out
[06:04] <warlock_> Is there a way to unlock ports as root?
[06:04] <ReverseBlade> nolimitsoya, for ubuntu
[06:04] <zyclop> HumanPrototype, np. did you get the link?
[06:04] <highvoltage> warlock_: unlock ports?
[06:04] <Eddieduce> No, do I have to go to Synaptic Package manager?
[06:04] <ReverseBlade> warlock_, what ports ?
[06:04] <zyclop> argh '*#+ing keyboard
[06:04] <warlock_> ports... ?
[06:04] <Linuturk_code> Eddieduce, it's in there. search for it
[06:04] <mouseclonez> Siemens Hicom 300 PBX systems use keyboard emulation pansi3? is there away to change the keyboard layout of ubuntu so that it will emulate pansi?
[06:04] <LjL> ReverseBlade, and I still recommend that we move this interesting discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, to keep this channel clear for support
[06:04] <ravenwritingdes1> Is there some way to just boot straight into console mode.  Ctrl-F2 did not work,  Xorg is still alive.
[06:04] <Falstius> humbraro: ofcourse, I'm going that even as I ask :)
[06:04] <warlock_> 27034-27039 - I want to unlock these
[06:04] <LjL> ravenwritingdes1: ctrl+ALT+F2
[06:05] <nolimitsoya> ReverseBlade, if you realy want gnome, that would be the way to go, yes. tho mepis is imo a better solution for someone who is just trying to get things to work than ubuntu+various scripts
[06:05] <Shish> ravenwritingdes1: choose "recovery mode" at the boot prompt?
[06:05] <HumanPrototype> zyclop: im going to have to go but search ubuntu forums for cx6600 and use the second part (not the script) for setting up the scanner using the values from lspci
[06:05] <LjL> ravenwritingdes1: anyway, to *boot* into console, you use Recovery Mode
[06:05] <ravenwritingdes1> LJL:  Xorg is still alive, I want Xorg dead.
[06:05] <nolimitsoya> LjL, sry :)
[06:05] <ReverseBlade> LjL, I am currently not discussing anyone with anything. I just explained why I recommended automatix
[06:05] <LjL> ravenwritingdes1: then type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop". but recovery mode *is* the answer if you want to *boot* without X
[06:05] <nolimitsoya> (and i was just adding to the advice :) )
[06:05] <Dheeraj> i removed ubuntu and installed fedora 4
[06:06] <Dheeraj> all because it has lots of issue wil connecting gprs
[06:06] <lazywalker> hello, I can't find any "Install LAMP server" option in the ubuntu-server-6.06.1-i386.iso, plz help
[06:06] <ianmacgregor> How do I start Ubuntu 6.06 in console mode, instead of X, so I can use startx ?
[06:06] <ofer1> ianmacgregor, you use GDM ?
[06:06] <LjL> ianmacgregor: if you want to do that as your default setup, you can remove GDM
[06:06] <ofer1> ianmacgregor, update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[06:06] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Ahh, thank you :)
[06:07] <wako33> is there anything in automatix that i can't just install from synaptic?
[06:07] <Dheeraj> it sucks
[06:07] <ianmacgregor> ofer1: Thank you :)
[06:07] <Dheeraj> wvdial is now working fine on fedora 4
[06:07] <ofer1> ianmacgregor, that way you can use it later on, but it won't run on startup.
[06:07] <LjL> wako33: don't think so. although you'll have to add some non-standard repositories to get the stuff in Synaptic.
[06:07] <lazywalker> how can I starting a LAMP installation? thanks
[06:07] <LjL> !lamp > lazywalker
[06:07] <ianmacgregor> ofer1: That's what I wanted for this box :)
[06:08] <mouseclonez> anyone have any idea about terminal emulation keymapings?
[06:08] <_paranoid_> how would I configure a second monitor? I want it simply to mirror what I currently have (on a laptop and want to use an external monitor:))
[06:08] <nolimitsoya> !lamp > nolimitsoya
[06:08] <pozdiy> what is the fast way (preferably through GUI) to allow remote login through ssh?
[06:08] <Eddieduce> I searched for Ephany in the SPM library but there is nothing there.
[06:08] <lazywalker> LjL, can you show me some detail?
[06:08] <ofer1> pozdiy, aptitude install ssh
[06:08] <darkanyel> help
[06:08] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, remove gdm and you will get in console
[06:08] <LjL> lazywalker: what's the detail that's lacking in that Howto?
[06:08] <zyclop> _paranoid_, on kde, you could use sysconfig
[06:08] <ianmacgregor> ReverseBlade: Thanks
[06:08] <CuriosCat> Hi all.
[06:09] <ofer1> hey CuriosCat
[06:09] <darkanyel> ReverseBlade, i dont know what should i have to do?
[06:09] <pozdiy> oferl, tnx I've got ssh on this machine, but I'd like to access it sometimes from my windows machine with putty
[06:09] <_paranoid_> zyclop: and in gnome or dropping back to the terminal?
[06:09] <lazywalker> well, this is a how-to: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html
[06:09] <CuriosCat> Dapper Drake seems to have a bit of a problem waking up from sleep on one of my machines, a Dell PowerEdge 400SC
[06:09] <catalytic> arrrgh this is driving me nuts
[06:09] <CuriosCat> I can ssh into the machine, however, the monitor does not come back on
[06:09] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, it is strange that CTRL F2 does not work. Well, can you log in safe mode ?
[06:09] <ofer1> pozdiy, you did a "aptitude install ssh" and it tells you that SSH is already installed?
[06:09] <darkanyel> im in safe mode
[06:09] <zyclop> _paranoid_, well, see if you can find something in the system menu
[06:09] <Eddieduce> Does anyone know where I can find the Ephany Browser?
[06:09] <LjL> lazywalker: why don't you try the one howto I gave you? that's from the Ubuntu documentation.
[06:09] <ofer1> Eddieduce, aptitude install epiphany
[06:09] <_paranoid_> zyclop: that's currently where I'm looking ;)
[06:09] <lazywalker> but i  just can find the option as the tour said
[06:10] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, open a terminal an look at the log files I mentioned
[06:10] <ianmacgregor> !info Epiphany
[06:10] <Eddieduce> Can you clarigy?
[06:10] <ubotu> epiphany: Clone of BoulderDash Game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 569 kB, installed size 2244 kB
[06:10] <pozdiy> ofer1, my bad, doing that right now
[06:10] <darkanyel> no, i cant enter in X
[06:10] <catalytic> i ran through this guide
[06:10] <catalytic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:10] <catalytic> and it still shows as mesa
[06:10] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, are you in console now ?
[06:10] <puff> Hm, I am running out of space when sync'ing from gtkpod to my ipod, not surprising, I only have 8gb. But how do I adjust what gets put on the ipod?
[06:10] <catalytic> the driver is loaded
[06:10] <darkanyel> yes
[06:10] <catalytic> and i can load it
[06:10] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, have you restarted x?
[06:10] <nolimitsoya> press ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:10] <lazywalker> LJL, thanks
[06:10] <ianmacgregor> !info epiphany-browser
[06:10] <ubotu> epiphany-browser: Intuitive GNOME web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2188 kB, installed size 11040 kB
[06:10] <catalytic> i restarted the whole computer
[06:10] <puff> I tried unchecking a bunch of large files and re-syncing, same error messages.
[06:11] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, just type less /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[06:11] <catalytic> that would restart x wouldnt it?
[06:11] <zyclop> _paranoid_, the other thing you could do would be to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:11] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, agree. edit your xorg.conf manualy
[06:11] <catalytic> but edit what?
[06:11] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, and try to figure out what error do you have
[06:11] <usuario> HOLA
[06:11] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, alt+f2, typ gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:11] <usuario> HOLA
[06:12] <griffindodd> hola
[06:12] <_paranoid_> zyclop: humm, yeah that's what I was thinking - I'll have a look through ubuntuguide.org first, but thanks for your help :)
[06:12] <darkanyel> "less /var/log/Xorg.log.0" or /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[06:12] <ofer1> catalytic, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. when it asks you for the driver, choose the right driver from the last.
[06:12] <usuario> QUE TAL?
[06:12] <LjL> !es
[06:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:12] <ofer1> catalytic, s/last/list/;
[06:12] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, which one works
[06:12] <yamal> any way to tell synaptic or apt to prefer ipv4 over ipv6?
[06:12] <griffindodd> catalytic - fixed the x800 problem, I had the wrong kernel - DOH!
[06:12] <darkanyel> gonna see
[06:12] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, you have it open yet?
[06:12] <ofer1> !il
[06:12] <ubotu>          
[06:12] <pozdiy> installed opn-ssh and ssh, is there any GUI to configure them?
[06:12] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[06:12] <zyclop> _paranoid_, well, sorry, I couldn't help you more
[06:12] <ReverseBlade> yamal, this has nothing to do with synaptic but your network conf
[06:13] <griffindodd> x800XL now pushing out 7600fps in GLXGears - woot
[06:13] <Eddieduce> Found it! Under epiphany-browser.  Thanks.  Will now test.
[06:13] <catalytic> sorry im on the computer
[06:13] <_paranoid_> zyclop: no problem :)
[06:13] <catalytic> wont alt f2 throw me out of this screen?
[06:13] <ReverseBlade> yamal just peek the folder /etc/network
[06:13] <ax> does anyone here use ifscheme?
[06:13] <yamal> ReverseBlade: I do need ipv6, but prefer v4 for most sources though
[06:13] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, no :)
[06:13] <ofer1> griffindodd, 596 frames in 5.0 seconds = 119.200 FPS
[06:13] <nolimitsoya> it will bring up the 'run program'dialog
[06:13] <ofer1> griffindodd, that's my onboard legacy 2MB graphics card. works like a charm.
[06:14] <yamal> ReverseBlade: apps like wget allow settings like "ipv4 only" or an order of preference
[06:14] <griffindodd> ofer1: he he he
[06:14] <ax> for some reason ifup/down doesn't modify anything in /etc/interfaces/run/, basically, there is no ifstate file, so ifscheme won't work
[06:14] <ax> s/interfaces/network
[06:14] <ReverseBlade> yamal, don't know, but look at "man ipv6". it may be helpful
[06:14] <yamal> k
[06:14] <catalytic> ok
[06:14] <griffindodd> anyone know why the screen resolutions in system>preferences would be different to the ones in my xorg.conf file?
[06:14] <[NikO] > sorry for connexion matters
[06:14] <catalytic> im using nano instead
[06:14] <^Ghost2U> having probs with edubuntu, what channel do I belong in?
[06:14] <catalytic> i dont have gedit
[06:14] <catalytic> im in xubuntu
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, anyway, when you have it open, find 'Section "Device"' in there, and to the right of subsection 'Driver', make sure it says '"fglrx"'
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, switch gedit for mousepad
[06:15] <catalytic> ok
[06:15] <catalytic> i got it open in a termianl
[06:15] <catalytic> and its already fglrx
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> O.o
[06:15] <catalytic> yeah thats the thing
[06:16] <catalytic> ive done this step about 10 times
[06:16] <ofer1> catalytic, restart X and see what happens.
[06:16] <ReverseBlade> catalytic, use vim then
[06:16] <_mali_> do you know any program, which can record my work as viedeo please?
[06:16] <catalytic> hang on, what does it matter what i use? I like nano
[06:16] <ezeki3l> i've installed basic development packages, they don't have man pages. which package has man pages for various C functions?
[06:16] <^Ghost2U> Building ltsp chroot error... help!
[06:16] <catalytic> is nano not going to save these settings or something?
[06:17] <ReverseBlade> catalytic, alright, of course not. But real men use vim :P
[06:17] <catalytic> whats the quickest way to restart x?
[06:17] <ofer1> catalytic, VIM is better, but nano will do the job pretty well.
[06:17] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, it doesnt matter what editor you use :)
[06:17] <catalytic> ah ok
[06:17] <etienne_> hi
[06:17] <LjL> catalytic: ctrl+alt+backspace is the quickest
[06:17] <darkanyel> sorry ReverseBlade, but i cant understand anything in that file
[06:17] <ezeki3l> ?
[06:17] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:17] <catalytic> i use nano at uni :)
[06:17] <etienne_> is evolution the official gui mail client of ubuntu?
[06:17] <nolimitsoya> etienne_, yess
[06:17] <nolimitsoya> -s
[06:17] <ezeki3l> anyone knows the package name for man pages for c functions?
[06:17] <etienne_> nolimitsoya : ok i'm having a lot of trouble with it, it crashes all the time
[06:17] <LjL> etienne_: it comes installed by default, and has a quick launch icon on the panel. so i'd say yes
[06:18] <ofer1> ezeki3l, it comes with almost every unix. especially ubuntu.
[06:18] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, me neither but if you read it carefully you will see, it mentiones that the lines starting with EE are errors
[06:18] <BENI> hola
[06:18] <etienne_> crashes, hangs, very slow to respond
[06:18] <BENI> hay alguien?
[06:18] <ezeki3l> ofer1: yea, i would imagine
[06:18] <ofer1> ezeki3l, example: man printf
[06:18] <ezeki3l> but this fresh install of ubuntu doesn't have even the printf
[06:18] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, you may as well post the file to the pastebin, and request help from the channel ,that some one may figure it out
[06:18] <catalytic> yeah.. wow thats pretty quick
[06:18] <nolimitsoya> etienne_, what version, and as a brute force fix, use thunderbird :P
[06:18] <BENI> hola
[06:18] <catalytic> ok now how do i check?
[06:18] <yo> buenas
[06:18] <etienne_> hold on
[06:18] <ezeki3l> ofer1: it has the shells printf
[06:19] <darkanyel> but i cant login in X
[06:19] <ofer1> ezeki3l, as you can see, printf is a program. you have to use the correct number, for example: man 3 printf
[06:19] <darkanyel> :S
[06:19] <ezeki3l> but not the C one
[06:19] <BENI> hola
[06:19] <ReverseBlade> catalytic, check  what ?
[06:19] <ezeki3l> i want a C function
[06:19] <yo> guenas
[06:19] <catalytic> that im using the proper driver
[06:19] <catalytic> i dont think i am
[06:19] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, are you using ISSIR ?
[06:19] <ofer1> ezeki3l, yeah, that's what I'm telling you know
[06:19] <darkanyel> yes
[06:19] <catalytic> i cant remeber the command
[06:19] <ezeki3l> like malloc for example
[06:19] <yo> hola Beni
[06:19] <ofer1> ezeki3l, s/know/now/
[06:19] <ezeki3l> citrus@citrus-laptop:~/Desktop/intr$ man malloc
[06:19] <ezeki3l> No manual entry for malloc
[06:19] <nolimitsoya> !ati > catalytic
[06:19] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, you can use lynx, which is a console based browser
[06:19] <darkanyel> ok
[06:20] <ofer1> ezeki3l, try it: man 3 malloc
[06:20] <ezeki3l> citrus@citrus-laptop:~/Desktop/intr$ man 3 malloc
[06:20] <ezeki3l> No manual entry for malloc in section 3
[06:20] <ReverseBlade> darkanyel, though I admit it will be hard to paste the file
[06:20] <catalytic> catalytic@axiom:~$ fglrxinfo
[06:20] <catalytic> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:20] <catalytic> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:20] <catalytic> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:20] <catalytic> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[06:20] <ezeki3l> i don't even have the C's printf man page
[06:20] <catalytic> :'(
[06:20] <sergevn> Does anyone has also problems with an Asus K8n Mainboard when booting Ubuntu live / installation
[06:20] <ofer1> ezeki3l, aptitude install build-essential
[06:20] <nolimitsoya> that is realy strange...
[06:20] <ezeki3l> see, ubuntu didn't even have the gcc
[06:20] <catalytic> oh no, dont say that
[06:20] <ezeki3l> yea, i've got that package
[06:20] <ezeki3l> i have gcc and make and stuff
[06:20] <ezeki3l> but no man pages
[06:21] <^Ghost2U> bye all
[06:21] <nolimitsoya> ezeki3l, fire up synaptic/adept and do a search
[06:21] <ofer1> that's weird. let me check.
[06:21] <ezeki3l> i think, it's not in essentials
[06:21] <ezeki3l> it's probly like, build-delux-edition
[06:21] <catalytic> seriously is that it?
[06:22] <nolimitsoya> :)
[06:22] <catalytic> end of the line? i simply cannot get this card to work on this machine?
[06:22] <nolimitsoya> no, i had the same problem once...
[06:22] <nolimitsoya> i just cant remember how i fixed it...
[06:22] <nolimitsoya> give me some time, though :)
[06:22] <catalytic> the only other piece of information i have found it this
[06:22] <catalytic> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.28.8_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[06:22] <ezeki3l> aha
[06:22] <catalytic> which seems to be timing out
[06:22] <ezeki3l> manpages-dev
[06:23] <griffindodd> anyone know why the screen resolutions in system>preferences would be different to the ones in my xorg.conf file?
[06:23] <etienne_> nolimitsoya : Bugzilla-Version: 2.6.x
[06:23] <ezeki3l> i knew it
[06:23] <ezeki3l> i'm genius.
[06:23] <catalytic> ok sorry nolimitsoya, i just got worried when you said "thats strange"
[06:23] <wako33> which is better... azureus or bittornado?
[06:23] <catalytic> ones java
[06:23] <catalytic> ones not?
[06:23] <apokryphos> wako33: they're different. Azureus has more features and a nicer UI, but BT is a lot more litghweight
[06:24] <nolimitsoya> etienne_, does 2.8.1 do the same thing?
[06:24] <wako33> ok, thx
[06:24] <etienne_> nolimitsoya : didn't try it
[06:25] <nolimitsoya> etienne_, please do :)
[06:25] <nolimitsoya> bugfixes are for fixing bugs :)
[06:25] <nolimitsoya> they usualy follow with newer versions
[06:25] <Egyptooo> Hi all
[06:25] <nolimitsoya> along with som e new bugs, that is... :P
[06:25] <nolimitsoya> *some new
[06:25] <amayera>  I am using dm-crypt with edgy and my cryptdisks should be mounted with /etc/init.d/cryptdisks-early, but usplash prevents the passphrase question from being showed. this is rather annoying as I have to do all by hand.
[06:26] <etienne_> nolimitsoya : not too familiar with updating with packaging,l how would you do it? do you have an howto.. also can it create bugs with dependencies
[06:26] <sladen> amayera: can you file a bug;  I think there maybe be one open, but I thought it was fixed
[06:26] <SurfnKid> does anyone know why my sda1 storage usb drive, get locked after a sporadic amount of minutes, to where i cant write or move files?  I have to reconnect it to reset it
[06:26] <nolimitsoya> etienne_, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should upgrade everything to newest possible
[06:27] <natalie> tclass.4linux.com.br
[06:27] <nolimitsoya> etienne_, if you dont want to do that, you can fire up synaptic, search for upgrades, search for evolution, and mark it for upgrade
[06:27] <boink> !apt-get
[06:27] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:27] <amayera> sladen: ok, maybe you have the bug#. I dont find it.
[06:27] <boink> !tell etienne_ > apt-get
[06:28] <boink> !tell etienne_ about apt-get
[06:28] <Egyptooo> I am having a problem after installing ati drivers, opengl and direct rendering is working fine alright but when i try to run several apps for example kdetv, opera, aticontrolpanel ...i get Floating point exception, why is that and how to fix it, any help is appreciated:)
[06:28] <dutchmega> Quiet here :P
[06:28] <sergevn> Is there someone who can help me with an installation issue of ubuntu x64 6.06
[06:28] <etienne_> nolimitsoya : i'm more into command line
[06:28] <zyclop> seraphim, what's the problem?
[06:28] <nolimitsoya> etienne_, everyone to his or her own :)
[06:28] <nolimitsoya> id recommend the full dist-upgrade
[06:29] <nolimitsoya> evolution is now the only thing that has been patched since release
[06:29] <etienne_> nolimitsoya : i already did the dist-upgrade it finds nothing
[06:29] <etienne_> might have wrong mirror or something
[06:29] <nolimitsoya> etienne_, you need to do a sudo apt-get update
[06:29] <dutchmega> I'm also looking for some help. I just don't get any DHCP offers on my Realtek 8169 but it works fine in Windows and it receives packets.. :/
[06:29] <nolimitsoya> first :)
[06:30] <notwist> Can't create config file (/usr/local/etc/no-ip2.conf)
[06:30] <notwist> No such file or directory
[06:30] <notwist> why dont i have any /etc/ folder there?
[06:30] <notwist> :/
[06:30] <nalioth> notwist: your /usr/local/ is usually empty on a new install
[06:31] <etienne_> nolimitsoya : already did that as well
[06:31] <notwist> nalioth: so how do i create that folder?
[06:31] <Newbi8> how do I get streaming radio in Ubuntu?
[06:31] <zyclop> Newbi8, streamtuner
[06:31] <deadkenny> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu server on a machine with an All-in-wonder TV OUT (i dont have a monitor).  I was able to install it using F4 VGA by putting 800x600x32, or else the screen would go crazy.  Now when i try to boot up the computer its starts the startup procresses, then the screens goes crazy
[06:31] <catalytic> i have 98 meg of upgrades to download nolimit
[06:31] <LjL> Newbi8: i think Rhythmbox has that
[06:31] <psiborg> rhythmbox also works
[06:31] <catalytic> ill try that and run through that guide again
[06:32] <nolimitsoya> etienne_, ok, then you are using dapper, perhaps? try firing evolution up from a terminal, and read the output when i crashes, or simply use a client that works for you (dirty fix, but a fix)
[06:32] <psiborg> isn't that installed by default?
[06:32] <deadkenny> How can I change Ubuntu to goto 800x600x32 so I can get into ubuntu?
[06:32] <etienne_> nolimitsoya : Package: evolution (2.6.1-0ubuntu7)
[06:32] <LjL> deadkenny: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:32] <ianmacgregor> I was under the impression that Firefox 1.5.07 did not support Shockwave in Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS. However, as you can see, the plugins seem to reflect that is does: http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/483/ff1ev7.jpg  I'm confused. Does ff support sw?
[06:32] <etienne_> thats what i get on the packages search..
[06:32] <etienne_> it looks like the latest verstion
[06:32] <etienne_> packaged
[06:33] <nolimitsoya> ianmacgregor, might there be  a package in the multiverse repo?
[06:33] <deadkenny> LjL: ok i read about that alot on the message boards, I just cant figure out to execute it properly.  I dont remember how i gotmyself to a shell (i think recovery mode), and that command wouldnt work (said not found or something)
[06:33] <notwist> how do i make a folder? sorry for my noobness
[06:33] <nolimitsoya> notwist, mkdir
[06:33] <notwist> thanks
[06:33] <nolimitsoya> from terminal
[06:33] <chrisadams> Hi everyone - does anyone here use ubuntu with a belkin pci wifi card?
[06:33] <nolimitsoya> or just rightclick in nautilus/thunar/whatever
[06:34] <ianmacgregor> nolimitsoya: Not sure, I installed mozilla-mplayer and flashplugin-nonfree so I think it's one of those two.
[06:34] <Newbi8> Zyclop: But what if I wanna connect to an internet radio-service that's only internetbased?
[06:34] <etienne_> nolimitsoya : i have a bugzilla report
[06:34] <chrisadams> I'm running a windows machien for testing in web development, and i'm getting so quick of the patchy wireless, that I'm thinking of switching to ubuntu, in the hope that the open sources drivers might be more reliable
[06:34] <catalytic> nolmitsoya, is this worth a try?
[06:34] <catalytic> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.28.8_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> catalytic, might be :)
[06:35] <zyclop> Newbi8, just add the URL in xmms. or amarok. or some other app that supports streams
[06:35] <Newbi8> Zyclop
[06:35] <ianmacgregor> nolimitsoya: Do you have a URL that I can test shockwave out on Firefox in 6.06?
[06:35] <Newbi8> Zyclop:Thanks!
[06:35] <zyclop> Newbi8, np
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> ianmacgregor, nope, but i bet you macromedia has some toys :)
[06:35] <vertz> Hi! Anyone know how to set "Set Character Encoding" to something else than "current locales", like Nordic in gnome-terminal? now i have to change to Nordic everytime i start a new terminal
[06:35] <ianmacgregor> nolimitsoya: :)
[06:36] <nolimitsoya> vertz, why not just change locale?
[06:36] <vertz> nolimitsoya: i dont remember how to:(
[06:36] <Stormx2> If i've got two seperate scripts running at different locations (with the same name), how do I kill just one of them?
[06:36] <nalioth> notwist: you use sudo
[06:36] <notwist> nalioth: already done :)
[06:37] <deadkenny> Is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" supposed to work even if i Installed Ubuntu Server without installing a GUI yet?
[06:37] <Stormx2> For example, ~/lol1/script and ~/lol2/script <-- how do I kill the first one?
[06:37] <Riot777> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4 <-- great campaign :)
[06:37] <zyclop> Stormx2, with the PID?
[06:38] <mcphail> deadkenny: no
[06:38] <LjL> deadkenny: not sure that would work from recovery, but just press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a shell
[06:38] <Stormx2> zyclop: That or the location of the script.
[06:38] <Gumby> Stormx2: ps aux |grep script  then use kill PID_of_script
[06:38] <vertz> nolimitsoya: how do i change it?
[06:38] <FlimFlamMan> hello.  i would like to install a local *.el file for emacs to use.  where is the best place to put that?
[06:38] <FlimFlamMan> (i'd like it to be available to all users)
[06:39] <HumanPrototype> zyclop, how are you gettting on with the scanner?
[06:39] <steve_> does anybody know the command to check if mod_mono is running?
[06:39] <puff> FlimFlamMan: Generally in /var/lib/emacs/site-lisp or the like.
[06:40] <puff> One sec, lemme check where ubuntu puts it.
[06:40] <FlimFlamMan> puff: thanks
[06:40] <deadkenny> so if my screen goes screwy when i try to boot Ubuntu Server without a GUI, how could i change the resoluton?  (I Like the CD because you have the F4 option, is there something similar for normal boot process?)
[06:40] <st0rk> hi all! who use golded+ in ubuntu?
[06:40] <zyclop> HumanPrototype, I was wayting for you
[06:40] <ziro> the ATI driver guide is down
[06:40] <zyclop> *waiting
[06:40] <ziro> help!
[06:40] <deadkenny> LjL: yeah but i just learned i cant run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg because i dont have a GUI installed
[06:40] <ziro> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[06:41] <HumanPrototype> zyclop, ok, sorry - work finished so i came home
[06:41] <HumanPrototype> zyclop can you resend the pastebin link
[06:41] <LjL> deadkenny: uh, then your problem is not getting X to run in 800x600... rather, it's just getting X =)
[06:41] <LjL> deadkenny: you installed the Server version?
[06:41] <zyclop> HumanPrototype, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27102/
[06:41] <deadkenny> LjL: yes
[06:41] <progek> Hey everyone, I ran some OpenGL examples from Nehe but get serious lag. Any ideas? I know my computer can handle the examples since i'm running XGL+Beryl AMD64 3700+ nvidia
[06:42] <deadkenny> LjL: i had to use F4 and put it to 800-600-32 so be able to install server edition
[06:42] <Merjin> how do I get my IP in a terminal in ubuntu?
[06:42] <rajiv> hello
[06:42] <LjL> deadkenny: well, then you're certainly stuck in a console until you install at least xserver-xorg
[06:42] <rajiv> wasssup everyone
[06:42] <Gumby> Merjin: ifconfig
[06:42] <Merjin> thanks
[06:42] <zyclop> general note to everybody: XChat supports Tab completition for nicks
[06:43] <nolimitsoya> progek, install the right drivers for you graphicscard
[06:43] <deadkenny> LjL: I cant get to the console, when it starts booting the text goes all screwy, the only shell i can get to is recovery mode
[06:43] <nolimitsoya> !ati > progek
[06:43] <deadkenny> Ljl: i havent tried ctrl alt 1, im not home to try it
[06:43] <Merjin> I'm not on xchat, I'm on mirc
[06:43] <puff> FlimFlamMan: come to think of it, why don't you just do "sudo find ./ -name site-lisp"
[06:43] <Stormx2> Gumby: Which is the PID?
[06:44] <LjL> deadkenny: hm, i don't know about the server version, but perhaps it sets your console's (*console*, not X) screenmode to something weird... check the kernel parameters at boot to see if there's by any chance a "vga=something" or "vesa" parameter, and try removing that
[06:44] <Merjin> haha sweet - I just vnc'ed into ubuntu that's running on a virtual system
[06:44] <deadkenny> ok ill check that out, thanks
[06:44] <deadkenny> i know in ubuntu desktop it asks u to pick your resolution, in the server edition install theres no mention of video card anywhere
[06:45] <snoops> because server edition doesn't include a gui..No X
[06:45] <ianmacgregor> deadkenny: I think that is because it's a server and most people don't install X on a server.
[06:45] <DarkAnyel> how can i restore what i do with this comand xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.it?
[06:46] <Gumby> deadkenny: do you want a full desktop?
[06:46] <deadkenny> no i just want to run an ftp server, but the box is connected to a tv (no monitor), with an old all in wonder card
[06:46] <agutierr> hello all: I have a serious problem. Someone knows if its possible to convert the yp/nis passwd.byname file to a passwd file ?
[06:46] <Gumby> deadkenny: so why do you need X then?
[06:47] <Gumby> deadkenny: just ssh in to the box
[06:48] <deadkenny> i dont, i havent installed it, i cant get ot the console between the video screws up during the boot process, it did the same thing when i tried to install ubuntu server, so i did F4 on the install CD and picked 800x600x32 to install it
[06:48] <deadkenny> after i installed it, took the cd out and booted the box, the text goes all screwy again when it gets to ubuntu booting
[06:48] <catalytic> i have an amd chip
[06:48] <deadkenny> gumby: is ssh on by default?
[06:48] <catalytic> why is synaptic installing linux-386 stuff?
[06:49] <snoops> it depends if you installed the 64bit edition or 32bit catalytic
[06:49] <catalytic> 32 i think
[06:49] <catalytic> 32 bit amd
[06:49] <catalytic> oh well all done
[06:49] <amp3d> i removed my /etc/awstats directory on accident how do i go about getting that awstats.conf.local and .default back? apt-get remove/install doesnt seem to regenerate them.. although it does regenerate the folder... how do i reinstall and force it to replace those files?
[06:50] <Zerb_Riss> can someone help me figure out why I can't resolve hardly any sites?
[06:50] <catalytic> dns?
[06:50] <Zerb_Riss> I'm pretty sure ti's a DNS problem but I don't know how to diagnose it
[06:50] <bulmer> modify your /etc/resolv.conf and add an entry
[06:50] <catalytic> manually assign the dns to that of ur isp's
[06:50] <Zerb_Riss> I'm using the exact same DNS server on my desktop and sites work fine
[06:50] <catalytic> are u using dhcp?
[06:51] <catalytic> renew the lease
[06:51] <amp3d> anyone have any ideas?
[06:51] <catalytic> can u ping the ip's fine, but no the url?
[06:51] <catalytic> reinstall tcpip
[06:51] <Zerb_Riss> hold on hehe :)
[06:51] <Zerb_Riss> if I change resolv.conf do I need to restart networking?
[06:51] <amp3d> no you dont.
[06:51] <amp3d> just add nameserver x.x.x.x
[06:52] <Zerb_Riss> k one second
[06:52] <Merjin> this may be a dumb question but why doesn't netstat display which PORT something is listening at?
[06:52] <deadkenny> i think i found my answers "HOWTO: change bootup resolution" at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258484&highlight=kernel+booting+parameters
[06:52] <deadkenny> thanks for your help guys :)
[06:53] <amp3d> sudo echo "nameserver 65.83.241.181" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[06:53] <amp3d> anyone know how i can recover my /etc/awstats folder?
[06:53] <deadkenny> LjL: thanks for your help, by talking to you i did a google on kernel boot parameters and i think the thread i found is gonna help me
[06:54] <zaibot> Hey, new Battlefield is released here this week. I checked cedegas database for supported games but it isnt there. Anyone know if I will be able to run it with cedega?
[06:54] <MarcN> Merjin: netstat -a tells you.  It uses 'human' names that it gets from /etc/services so you see www, mysql instead of 80 and 3306
[06:54] <Merjin> oh wait, I was looking at 'unix domain servers' or something
[06:54] <Zerb_Riss> hah sweet!
[06:54] <Zerb_Riss> thanks folks!
[06:54] <Merjin> I was expecting more listening ports
[06:55] <amp3d> anyone?
[06:55] <mindamp> i removed my /etc/awstats directory on accident how do i go about getting that awstats.conf.local and .default back? apt-get remove/install doesnt seem to regenerate them.. although it does regenerate the folder... how do i reinstall and force it to replace those files?
[06:56] <bionoid> mindamp: try dpkg-reconfigure awstats
[06:56] <mindamp> rightio
[06:56] <mindamp> thanx
[06:56] <Newbi1> Once again I'm a bit stuck!Somone her with the same problem i hope.
[06:56] <Psychobudgie> um, the nvidia problem is fixed in the nvidia beta drivers
[06:56] <mindamp> nice trix >> http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php
[06:56] <Newbi1> Can't get my Motorola V3i Razr to communicate with Ubuntu
[06:56] <ianmacgregor> Newbi1: We won't know until you tell us what's wrong
[06:57] <squeaks> i'm having trouble finding out why i have to xkill evolution everytime NetworkManager changes wireless networks, evolution does not pick up the new network quick enough, it has to timeout first?
[06:57] <mindamp> bionoid... no go didnt recreate /etc/awstats
[06:57] <mindamp> any other suggestions anyone?
[06:58] <Merjin> if I install a program from the package manager, where does it go?
[06:58] <LjL> Merjin: into various places of your filesystem. type "dpkg -L <packagename>" to see a list of files and their places
[06:59] <ianmacgregor> Merjin: Depends on the way it was packaged, most executables go into /usr/bin
[06:59] <Merjin> thanks
[06:59] <AsheD> I am wondering if there is a better way to sync a local dir with an online one than rsync ?
[06:59] <mcphail> AsheD: are you kidding? Better than rsync?
[06:59] <AsheD> rsync kills my connetion, even if I throttle it back
[07:00] <mindamp> mcphail.. depends... ssh rsync is more secure..
[07:00] <mcphail> mindamp: it is still rsync...
[07:00] <mindamp> yes, but its a  secure shell tunnel..
[07:00] <Paddy_EIRE_> >
[07:00] <AsheD> I only have a 256k upload atm, but even if I set rsync to a lower speed [say around 10kB/s] , any other activity drops to about nothing
[07:00] <ThinkingMan> So I can't figure out how to flush dns hosts in ubuntu, and oddly enough I can't find it in wiki or on google either, any ideas?
[07:01] <Stormx2> Hey everyone. What do I need to use nautilus scripts? My previous install had a list of them show up in the context menu when I right clicked a file in nautilus!
[07:01] <mindamp> yet rsync/ssh is slow...
[07:01] <mindamp> sftp..
[07:01] <sorush21> !networking
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <sorush21> !share
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <jrib> !fishing
[07:01] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[07:02] <mindamp> thinkingman.. flush DNS hosts?
[07:02] <Newbi1> Anyone who knows how I can hook up my Razr to Ubuntu?
[07:03] <mindamp> newbi... google "motorola phone ubuntu"
[07:03] <boggle> AsheD: you might want to use iptraf to check if the bandwidth restriction is really working
[07:04] <sorush21> what do I need to be able access linux share folders on a windows machine?
[07:04] <AsheD> boggle:: it is, as I can see, it uploads a lot slower
[07:04] <ThinkingMan> mindamp: we moved a few sites to a new server and the new dns record has propagated to ther machines on my network but not mine
[07:04] <Paddy_EIRE_> whatever happened to <Jack_Sparrow>
[07:04] <mindamp> sorrush21.. samba
[07:04] <mindamp> apt-get install samba
[07:04] <AsheD> it just seems like the extra time in which rsync is not uploading is still restricted to rsync, even though its not being used
[07:04] <johnny_> ello all
[07:04] <ThinkingMan> thus, I'm assuming my machine is using a cached dns entry
[07:05] <mindamp> thinkingman... im not aware of any nameserver cachine on a ubuntu client.. however you could just manually add it to the /etc/hosts file..
[07:05] <boggle> AsheD: is it still killing the connection when it it is _very_slow like --bwlimit=10?
[07:05] <mcphail> AsheD: rsync will be using th enetwork connection all the time it is running to compare hashes
[07:05] <mindamp> but i think its a lease timing issue on the actual DNS box
[07:06] <AsheD> boggle:: yes
[07:06] <AsheD> mcphail:: that was what I was afraid of
[07:06] <johnny_> this might sound dumb but i ran sudo top, it showing the result of 2 users, I and root... is root suppose to be running or just me?
[07:06] <mindamp> root and sudo user
[07:06] <johnny_> k ty
[07:06] <mcphail> AsheD: it is "cheaper" in the long run than sending whole files
[07:06] <johnny_> i like that cmd
[07:06] <johnny_> very nice
[07:07] <AsheD> mcphail:: maybe, but it often results in my roommates unplugging my computer :X
[07:07] <mcphail> AsheD: :)
[07:07] <AsheD> I usually just run it at night now anyways
[07:07] <boggle> AsheD: sorry, out of ideas then :(
[07:07] <sorush21> what do I need to be able access linux share folders on a windows machine?
[07:07] <dujavi> Can anyone tell me how to load the live cd into RAM (I have over enough)
[07:07] <Paddy_EIRE> what is a good easy alternative to "FileZilla"
[07:07] <mindamp> as far as i am aware FTP is the fastest file. transfer. protocol.
[07:08] <mindamp> top level stack that is.
[07:08] <mcphail> AsheD: syncing over t'interweb is going to be slow regardless of the method used
[07:08] <Suus> Hello all.. someone got an understanding of configurating Samba?
[07:08] <sorush21> in that case the samba wiki needs to be updated
[07:09] <mindamp> apt-get install samba
[07:09] <mindamp> smbpasswd -a username
[07:09] <mindamp> then windows will ask for that username and pass..
[07:09] <shwag> what are the nightly builds called?
[07:09] <mindamp> has to be an existing user
[07:09] <mindamp> no root allowed.
[07:09] <shwag> what is the ubuntu equivalent of sid ?
[07:09] <ThinkingMan> mindamp: hrm.... I guess that's why there's no way to flush the cache
[07:10] <dujavi> How can I load the live CD into ram?
[07:10] <mindamp> thinkingman.. maybe restart inetd or something.. reboot the box?
[07:10] <mindamp> dujavi... it is loaded into ram
[07:10] <ThinkingMan> mindamp, I was hoping not to, I have such good uptime!
[07:10] <ThinkingMan> oh well, thanks for the info
[07:11] <mindamp> thinkingman.. switch nameserver temporarily..
[07:11] <mindamp> then switch back after an hour..
[07:11] <mindamp> then it might re-lease
[07:11] <dujavi> mindamp, But when I run something the cd starts up and I have to wait for it to load from cd
[07:11] <ThinkingMan> mindamp: I'm just gonna reboot, it'll probably work, (I'm probably due for a reboot anyway)
[07:11] <ThinkingMan> thanks though
[07:11] <mindamp> dujavi.. it has to load into ram from somewhere :-)
[07:12] <mindamp> you could copy the cd img to your hard drive.. then load from there..
[07:12] <mindamp> or you could just install it. :-)
[07:12] <mindamp> there may even be a way to buffer it better.. have you read the live cd how-to?
[07:12] <ianmacgregor> mindamp: :)
[07:12] <Raoul> where is the alsa config file stored in ubuntu?
[07:12] <sheriff> i closed the dock panel accidently how can i have it back_
[07:13] <Paddy_EIRE> sheriff: which dock
[07:13] <Stormx2> Hey everyone. What do I need to use nautilus scripts? My previous install had a list of them show up in the context menu when I right clicked a file in nautilus!
[07:13] <mindamp> /var/lib/alsa /etc/default/alsa /etc/init.d/alsa-utils /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[07:13] <Merjin> where's my www root for apache?
[07:13] <yacoob> Greetings.
[07:13] <Merjin> I can't find it :<
[07:13] <Raoul> thanks mindamp
[07:13] <apokryphos> Merjin: /var/www
[07:13] <mindamp> apache1 or 2?
[07:13] <dujavi> mindamp, sry I meant I want to load it all into ram (I can do this with DSL by specifying the "toram" boot option)
[07:13] <Suus> Can someone help me with Samba (webmin) i only have read acces to certain folders no write/delete acces.. how to change that?
[07:14] <sheriff> Paddy_EIRE: i mean normal panel dock
[07:14] <jrib> Stormx2: put them in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/ and make them +x
[07:14] <yacoob> is there a [k] ubuntu install iso that supports LVM?
[07:14] <Merjin> thanks apokryphos!
[07:14] <ianmacgregor> Stormx2: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/NautilusScripts
[07:14] <Paddy_EIRE> sheriff: Im still a little confused the top or bottom, what is its function as you can create a new one with all the same stuff on it again
[07:15] <dujavi> I have 2 Gigs of RAM plus swap, so live cd will run much faster if I can load it into ram.
[07:15] <sheriff> Paddy_EIRE: its bottom
[07:15] <Ropechoborra> Is Kubuntu Edgy released at same time than Ubuntu Edgy?
[07:16] <sheriff> Paddy_EIRE: the default gnome bottom panel
[07:16] <apokryphos> dujavi: you wouldn't be running the Live CD at all if it wasn't "loaded into ram"
[07:16] <Ropechoborra> *that
[07:16] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: yes
[07:16] <Paddy_EIRE> sheriff: right click the top panel then choose New panel
[07:16] <ianmacgregor> dujavi: I don't think the Ubuntu livecd comes with an option to load the entire cd into ram.
[07:16] <Ropechoborra> apokryphos when is the final release?
[07:16] <sheriff> Paddy_EIRE: ok it worked
[07:17] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: planned for Oct 26th
[07:17] <Ropechoborra> Ty
[07:17] <mindamp> dujavi.. there is currently no toram option for ubuntu.. most other livecd's do have it though.. ubuntu can run in persistence mode under liveCD, however thats a different can of worms.
[07:17] <Paddy_EIRE> sheriff: then you can add the same show desktop, workspace switcher, trash and window selector
[07:17] <mindamp> knoppix will toram, and so will most others. like slax
[07:18] <mindamp> dujavi.. it would load faster even if it were loading off of USB than CD
[07:18] <dujavi> mindump, thanks
[07:18] <mindamp> like a flash card or soemthing
[07:18] <Paddy_EIRE> sheriff: right click the new panel then choose Add to Panel
[07:18] <mindamp> sorry dude.
[07:18] <Merjin> aw hell yeah, php works right out of the box
[07:18] <Merjin> sweet
[07:18] <yacoob> heeeello? LVM? anyone? :)
[07:18] <onurx> I set the root password with "sudo passwd" , I am able to login as root on terminal.But when I try to use synaptic package manager from menu when logon with a normal user,wrong password error occurs. I can run synaptic from terminal as root also
[07:18] <apokryphos> onurx: when you're running synaptic from the menu it will want your USER pass
[07:19] <Paddy_EIRE> onurx: you can disable root password
[07:19] <apokryphos> since sudo on Ubuntu uses the sudo pass
[07:19] <Dheeraj_k> bug in ubuntu
[07:19] <Paddy_EIRE> !root
[07:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:19] <Dheeraj_k> http://www.desi-tek.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=398
[07:19] <apokryphos> Paddy_EIRE: do you mean enable? It's disabled by default
[07:19] <ianmacgregor> onurx: That's because the menu item for Synaptic uses sudo, which is now the wrong password since you set the root password. Change the Synaptic menu items' command in alacarte
[07:19] <Paddy_EIRE> apokryphos: he already enabl;ed his did you read
[07:19] <apokryphos> Paddy_EIRE: and it's not a bug, it's a [quite unique]  feature
[07:20] <apokryphos> woops, it wasn't you that said it was a bug
[07:20] <Paddy_EIRE> apokryphos: I never said it was a bug ;\
[07:20] <johnny_> lol
[07:20] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[07:20] <johnny_> all i gotta say is that love ubuntu :):):):)
[07:20] <Dheeraj_k> bugbugbugbugbugbugbug with wvdial on ubuntu http://www.desi-tek.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=398
[07:20] <apokryphos> =)
[07:21] <Dheeraj_k> bugbugbugbugbugbugbug with wvdial on ubuntu http://www.desi-tek.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=398
[07:21] <frsk> Dheeraj_k: We heard you the first time.
[07:21] <Dheeraj_k> connection is dieing in 3 minute
[07:21] <AsheD> can anybody recommend a good way to upload a large number of files without killing the connection?
[07:21] <Dheeraj_k> how to fix it?
[07:22] <ianmacgregor> AsheD: Via ftp?
[07:22] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Dheeraj_k about repeat
[07:22] <onurx> is there any project to speed up booting process of ubuntu?
[07:22] <AsheD> ianmacgregor:: I would prefer something that I could add to a script or something, just leave it to run, but I am not that knowledgeable about ubuntu
[07:23] <apokryphos> onurx: I do believe it was a target for edgy
[07:23] <ianmacgregor> AsheD: Ahh, ok. Well, I use gftp to upload to my webhost and I quite like it, but it's gui
[07:23] <Dheeraj_k> is it a known issue?
[07:23] <AsheD> ianmacgregor:: GUIs are fine, as long as they can continue to run without a deal of user interaction
[07:24] <Suus> Can someone help me with Samba (webmin) i only have read acces to certain folders no write/delete acces.. how to change that?
[07:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ianmacgregor: is "GFTP" a good alternative to "FileZilla" ?
[07:24] <ianmacgregor> AsheD: You might find gftp to suit your needs, then
[07:24] <Paddy_EIRE> !gftp
[07:24] <AsheD> ianmacgregor::  I am installing it
[07:24] <apokryphos> Paddy_EIRE: it's a decent enough ftp manager, yes.
[07:24] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[07:24] <ianmacgregor> Paddy_EIRE: Not sure, I have never even heard of filezilla
[07:24] <Paddy_EIRE> k, gonna look
[07:24] <Dheeraj_k> i want to get rid of fedora 4
[07:24] <apokryphos> I believe Nautilus can be used for FTP, too
[07:25] <Paddy_EIRE> reallr
[07:25] <Paddy_EIRE> apokryphos: Really
[07:25] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: so (i) format the disk it's on, (ii) install the distro you want over it
[07:25] <Dheeraj_k> net is the only reason i am using it
[07:25] <ianmacgregor> apokryphos: Yes, nautilus can be used for ftp
[07:25] <apokryphos> !ftp
[07:25] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[07:25] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[07:25] <Dheeraj_k> but problem is i can't :(
[07:26] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: the problem is you can't get rid of it? Why?
[07:26] <Dheeraj_k> as i am not able to connect net on ubuntu using gprs
[07:26] <onurx> password changed , but synaptic still asks for password
[07:26] <apokryphos> curious gnome apps :D
[07:26] <Dheeraj_k> and fedora is not allowing me to access ntfs drive
[07:26] <apokryphos> onurx: it will ALWAYS ask for password -- enter your USER pass
[07:26] <Dheeraj_k> i am stuck
[07:26] <ianmacgregor> onurx: try using your user password
[07:27] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: what do you mean it's not allowing you to access it?
[07:27] <onurx> ok
[07:27] <apokryphos> what's the error?
[07:27] <Dheeraj_k> it is not reading ntfs drive
[07:27] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: what's the error?
[07:27] <Dheeraj_k> i even installed ntfs drive on it
[07:27] <SBlade> can someone help me with a little problem i have with an NV18 class card, the nvidia driver, and X11?
[07:28] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: ....when you try to mount it?
[07:28] <Dheeraj_k> no such directory
[07:28] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: so create a directory (mkdir somedirectory)
[07:28] <A[D] minS> !apt
[07:28] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:29] <Merjin> where can I find the mysql scripts folder?
[07:29] <Ropechoborra> !mount
[07:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:30] <catalytic> FIXED!!!
[07:30] <catalytic> If anyone else is having trouble installing ATI radeon 9550 then do the second option on this page
[07:30] <catalytic> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.28.8_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[07:30] <catalytic> now, to download a nice 3d game to test them on :P
[07:31] <nolimitsoya> congratulations catalytic :)
[07:32] <zyclop> catalytic, try nexuiz
[07:32] <administrator> i installed xubuntu-desktop, but added ubuntu-desktop
[07:32] <adamhorden> hi, my ubuntu box on startup says when detecting hardware it has failed but carrys on booting. It then come sup with an error about mod probe exiting abnormaly. What logs do I nede to check to find the error as dmesg reports nothing.
[07:32] <administrator> i want the standard ubuntu splash and gdm back
[07:33] <catalytic> would that be in the synaptic zyclop?
[07:33] <catalytic> im looking at cedega as well
[07:33] <zyclop> catalytic, the name of the packet is just "nexuiz" maybe it's in multiverse
[07:33] <POVaddct> catalytic: for a quick 3d test, try neverball
[07:34] <ianmacgregor> !info nexuiz
[07:34] <ubotu> Package nexuiz does not exist in any distro I know
[07:34] <Merjin> where can I find the mysql scripts folder?
[07:34] <Merjin> heck, where can I find the mysql folder?
[07:34] <boink> folder? now that's cute
[07:35] <catalytic> downloading now
[07:35] <catalytic> 195mb
[07:35] <catalytic> neverball?
[07:35] <ianmacgregor> nexuiz is in universe, but the bot doesn't realise it
[07:35] <POVaddct> !neverball
[07:35] <ubotu> neverball: 3D arcade games: neverball & neverputt. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 468 kB
[07:35] <catalytic> im still not seeing stupid numbers in glxgears and fgl_glxgears
[07:35] <catalytic> ok
[07:36] <catalytic> but at least the 3d is rendering smooth now
[07:36] <catalytic> so whats this cedega thing?
[07:36] <mcphail> catalytic: some versions of glxgears don't display numbers. It is a "feature"
[07:36] <catalytic> virtual pc for linux?
[07:36] <catalytic> i used the -printfps
[07:36] <catalytic> and only got about 300 fps
[07:36] <catalytic> which is still ok
[07:37] <catalytic> but i thought those things fly up to the 1000's
[07:37] <Merjin> nvm, found it
[07:37] <Merjin> no thanks to boink
[07:38] <boink> you're welcome
[07:38] <catalytic> http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=35&meid=8
[07:38] <catalytic> whats with the hat
[07:38] <phlux> Is it possible to install Ubuntu without it starting gnome first? I put the 6.06 CD in, and it's taking forever to start gnome (which I don't want it to do in the first place)
[07:39] <boink> phlux: that would be a nice feature :)
[07:39] <boink> maybe xubuntu has a live cd too
[07:39] <phlux> I just want to install the damn operating system..not fool around with X.
[07:39] <boink> aaah
[07:40] <phlux> :\
[07:40] <boink> you need to put the gnome bloat on first, then click on install
[07:40] <boink> little odd, I know :/
[07:40] <zyclop> phlux, try the alternate install cd
[07:40] <phlux> that's incredibly stupid..I don't even know if my laptop can handle gnome
[07:40] <boink> is that without gnome?
[07:40] <boink> the alternate CD sounds like a good idea
[07:40] <phlux> I suppose I'll give it a whirl. I'm guessing it's another 700 MB download
[07:41] <ianmacgregor> !alternate
[07:41] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:41] <xst> How do I use my webcam in an MSN chat? I can see that the camera works fine in "Configure>Devices", but nothing happens when I press "send webcam" in the chat window. And when I exit the configuration window, my webcam seems to turn off (its little led is turning off). What to do?
[07:41] <catalytic> xubuntu alternate cd lets u install via text only and works on machines with <198 mb of ram
[07:41] <SuperMiguel> i just brought a a domain name and a hosting, and im traing to configure my /etc/host should i put there my hosting ip or my wan ip?
[07:41] <boink> no
[07:41] <Psychobudgie> did I already mention that the topic is wrong
[07:41] <boink> /etc/host isn't for the internet
[07:41] <catalytic> wan ip
[07:41] <boink> you'll need a dns for that
[07:42] <Psychobudgie> disabling renderaccel in xorg.conf fixes the problem
[07:42] <boink> there are some free dns services on the internet if you don't want to set up your own dns
[07:42] <SuperMiguel> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain localhost
[07:42] <SuperMiguel> 192.168.0.100   server1.example.com     server1
[07:42] <fairramone> Does anyone use OSL2000 as a boot manager?
[07:42] <Psychobudgie> and versions 1.0-9625 & 1.0-9626 of the nvidia driver have it fixed
[07:42] <SuperMiguel> where is says server1.example.com server i have to put my hosting address?
[07:44] <Psychobudgie> it's covered in full on http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=78322 on the official nvidia forums
[07:44] <SuperMiguel> on the /etc/host i have to put 92.168.0.100   server1.example.com     server1, where it says server1.example.com i have to put my hosted webpage?
[07:45] <dr`venom> can someone please help me install ubuntu
[07:45] <boink> SuperMiguel: I just explained it to you
[07:46] <Pegggerr> you anyone else notice that netowrk solutions is down
[07:46] <dr`venom> I installed ubuntu but I get no graphical interface. It says uncompressing kernel .... and then I get a text login option, but no graphical interface
[07:47] <dr`venom> no gnome or kde
[07:47] <rambo3> you installed a server?
[07:47] <boink> there is the server and the desktop version
[07:47] <Crysis> Can I install ubuntu with a core 2 duo and a P5W DH Deluxe and a SATA II H ?
[07:47] <Crysis> HD
[07:48] <dr`venom> maybe I downloaded the server version
[07:48] <boink> double check that
[07:48] <boink> Crysis: 32 or 64 bit?
[07:48] <rambo3> cant tabb complite
[07:48] <dr`venom> you know what, it does say server when I boot up
[07:48] <dr`venom> man
[07:48] <bdragonmsl> Does anyone have any good ideas as to what I should do to get glx to work on my 7900 gt?
[07:48] <dr`venom> thanks a lot
[07:48] <boink> well .. it's a learning experience
[07:48] <Crysis> boink hmm 32 maybe or 64
[07:48] <rambo3> dr`venom you can change it easy
[07:49] <dr`venom> I will redownload
[07:49] <dr`venom> really?
[07:49] <dr`venom> how?
[07:49] <boink> if you don't know, just install the 32 bit stuff then
[07:49] <dr`venom> ok
[07:49] <rambo3> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:49] <dr`venom> oh ok
[07:49] <boink> ta rambo3
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> what gstreamer plugins do i need for serpentine to make an audio (wav) cd from mp3s' ??
[07:49] <dr`venom> right after I sign in with the kernel right?
[07:49] <boink> gsteamer?
[07:49] <JamesG> has anyone else had problems connecting from XP --> Ubuntu with RealVNC? I login but then the window seems to close... :( any ideas?
[07:50] <rambo3> dr`venom yes
[07:50] <sheriff>  i tried to install flash player and i did i mean i did it ether with apt-get and from its website but it doesn't work i mean web sites say i need to have the latest version of it but hiw?
[07:50] <boink> Paddy: why not just use lame to make a wav from mp3?
[07:50] <POVaddct> dr`venom: log in to the shell you mean
[07:50] <Crysis> boink and that will work ? because debian dont work with my hardware :/
[07:50] <boink> Crysis: try it, I would give you even odds
[07:50] <dr`venom> yea, i'm so excited, i've tried suse and now ubuntu: goodbye windows!
[07:50] <boink> but ubuntu is based on debian :/
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> boink: want to do it the automated way as in add mp3s to cd playlist for burning the let it convert and burm them...ala Windows Media Player
[07:51] <boink> I see
[07:51] <boink> but lame will make wavs from mp3s as well
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> i know :)
[07:52] <boink> and you might want to look into mplayer .. it can do cool things as well
[07:52] <Egyptooo> I am having a problem after installing ati drivers, opengl and direct rendering is working fine alright but when i try to run several apps for example kdetv, opera, aticontrolpanel ...i get Floating point exception, why is that and how to fix it, any help is appreciated:)
[07:52] <boink> I used mplayer/mencoder to redo a crap BBC Radio 3 stream, from .ra into mp3 at a good quality
[07:52] <fairramone> Does anyone know if it possible to put install Ubuntu w/o GRUB
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> serpentine audo cd creator said I need the correct gstreamer plugind installed to complete the operation
[07:53] <ks1> fairramone: should be with the alternate i think
[07:53] <ks1> i know you can choose where to install grub
[07:53] <boink> Paddy: ever tried acde?
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> !acde
[07:53] <boink> that's a simple ripper from cd
[07:53] <sheriff> anyone can help me?
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <ks1> sheriff: what is the problem?
[07:53] <ianmacgregor> !abcde
[07:54] <ubotu> abcde: A Better CD Encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.99.2-1 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 276 kB
[07:54] <boink> heh .. it's just a shell script
[07:54] <xxxxxx> somebody use ubuntu linux???
[07:54] <sheriff> ksl: m tryng to nstall flash player i mean i did but it's not the latest one
[07:54] <Paddy_EIRE> boink: you are missing the point I got a library of 1000s of mp3s so no good using a cd ripper at this point
[07:54] <drivera90> Does anyone know how much the 80GB iPod goes for?
[07:54] <xxxxxx> my client amule adunanza crash with ubuntu
[07:54] <ks1> sheriff: the latest is not available for linux in general
[07:54] <sheriff> ksl: i mean 6 or 7
[07:54] <ks1> 7 is available with apt-get
[07:55] <boink> abcde (A Better CD Encoder) is a frontend sh script to rip tracks from
[07:55] <boink> a CD, encode them in ogg vorbis or mp3 format, and tag them.
[07:55] <sheriff> i got it with apt-get
[07:55] <dr`venom> oh one small question, does ubuntu play mp3s and dvd's out of the box or do I have to install codecs?
[07:55] <ks1> sheriff: flashplugin-nonfree ?
[07:55] <ianmacgregor> !resticted > dr`venom
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resticted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <Paddy_EIRE> trying to make an audio cd (wav) no shell script or cli just Click > add > Convert/burn
[07:55] <boink> dr'venom: I think ubuntu can play mp3's but it can't make mp3's
[07:55] <ianmacgregor> !restictedformats > dr`venom
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restictedformats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <apokryphos> ianmacgregor: it's rest[r] icted
[07:56] <dr`venom> ok thank you
[07:56] <sheriff> ksl: yes
[07:56] <ianmacgregor> !restricted > dr`venom
[07:56] <dr`venom> !restricted
[07:56] <statters> lol u missing the R in restRicted
[07:56] <boink> xmms worked out of the box, I didn't need to change anything with it to play any mp3 streams
[07:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:56] <ianmacgregor> apokryphos: Thank you
[07:56] <ks1> sheriff: have you tried restarting your browser ?
[07:56] <boink> but just modify your /etc/apt/sources.list .. and you have all of the formats you want
[07:56] <ianmacgregor> Yeah, it's this kb.. it types what I type instead of what I want, lol
[07:56] <sheriff> yeh
[07:57] <Paddy_EIRE> boink: xmms pulls down the appropriate codecs when you install it
[07:57] <sheriff> ksl : yeah i did
[07:57] <Egyptooo> ppl does anyone know what could cause a floating point exception error when starting a program?
[07:57] <ks1> sheriff: i'm not sure. shouldnt be complaining unless flash is not 8
[07:57] <sheriff> ksl : i downloaded it yesterday
[07:57] <boink> I was afraid it wouldn't play mp3's under ubuntu
[07:57] <Paddy_EIRE> boink: although it would not be playing them from default install this would be illegal and ubuntu would not exist anymore
[07:57] <ks1> sheriff: let me install and give me a website that isnt working for you.
[07:58] <sheriff> www.youtube.com
[07:58] <boink> Paddy: well .. let's leave that to the lawyers :)
[07:58] <sheriff> ksl : www.youtube.com
[07:58] <dr`venom> well, thanks a lot for your help guys. I really appriciate it :)
[07:58] <Jaksh_eet> where can i look up some apps to play mp3's and mpegs, automatix not ready for edgy amd64 yet
[07:58] <boink> Jaksh: xmms ?
[07:59] <fairramone> ks1: i'm trying to figure out how to install ubuntu on my laptop w/o blowing it up. currently i have a boot manager (osl2000) loaded on the mbr. it lets me switch between two different xp installations on two separate primary partitions. i have a 3rd primary partition waiting for ubuntu, but i'm very nervous that ubuntu is going to f'up my mbr and put grub on it.
[07:59] <rockzman> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[07:59] <rockzman> Can anyone help me
[07:59] <apokryphos> Jaksh_eet: for mp3s amarok and banshee are the best
[07:59] <ianmacgregor> sheriff: youtube flash works in Firefox
[07:59] <apokryphos> Jaksh_eet: for films kaffeine or totem are good
[07:59] <boink> but for 64 bit, which is the best mp3 player?
[07:59] <Jaksh_eet> thanks everyone will try to get them
[07:59] <ks1> fairramone: well with the alternate cd you can choose where to install grub. I dont remember if you can choose not to install it.
[07:59] <apokryphos> boink: considering they all work on 64-bit.....
[08:00] <Paddy_EIRE> when i try to add files in "GnomeBaker" i get "The plugin to handle a file of type image/jpeg is not installed" what do I do there
[08:00] <boink> let's hope so :)
[08:00] <apokryphos> they do
[08:00] <rockzman> Can anyone help me ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[08:00] <bdragonmsl> alan,
[08:01] <fairramone> ks1: good idea, i will download it
[08:01] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone tell me how I can get
[08:01] <designdrem> anyone here suffering with dmraid not working in > 2.6.15 ?
[08:01] <ttrygve> rockzman: I've seen that on my laptop, though I confess I never looked into enough to fix it
[08:01] <Paddy_EIRE> er, oops
[08:01] <sheriff> ksl : ok now it works :) thanks
[08:01] <ks1> sheriff: if you did not agree to the license then it will not work
[08:01] <rockzman> ttrygve, i have one lap also
[08:01] <ks1> everything works fine for me :)
[08:02] <ttrygve> for some reason the ubuntu install set up the wireless on the laptop flawlessly, but I get problems like that when I try to use the wired nic for anything
[08:02] <sheriff> ok it works
[08:02] <rockzman> ttrygve,  i heard it is about rate limit icmp request
[08:02] <fairramone> Also, any ideas of how to get integrated RAR support in the file manager?
[08:02] <rockzman> ttrygve, u got a good solution for usb wireless adapters?
[08:02] <ttrygve> well, that may be for you, but when I encountered it I'm fairly certain it was a lower level problem, as it prevented me from using that interface for anything
[08:02] <ks1> fairramone: install unrar
[08:03] <ttrygve> sorry, I've never tried using one
[08:03] <rockzman> ttrygve, mmm u mentioned wireless :P so u seemed to had experienced tho
[08:03] <SuperMiguel> i have an domain name how can i make my ip that domain?
[08:03] <rockzman> ttrygve, well not about interface communication
[08:03] <RustyJames> hey i just installed edgy beta on my toshiba laptop and i have the problem that the mouse stops working after some time and sometimes also the keyboard is disabled, so i can only use touchpad to restart. anyone got those problems?
[08:03] <rockzman> about ipv4 packets sending
[08:03] <_aasics_> SuperMiguel, who is the Domain Name through?
[08:04] <JanKassens> kann man eigentlich ohne neuinstallation von dapper auf edgy upgraden?
[08:04] <SuperMiguel> godaddy i brough it there
[08:04] <boink> JanKassens: wir sprechen kein Deutsch hier :)
[08:04] <boink> !tell JanKassens about de
[08:04] <JanKassens> i am sorry
[08:04] <boink> no problem
[08:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Can anyone tell me how to burn an Audio CD with minimal effort from a bunch of mp3s, Ideal process would be like WMP10 (Open App > Add mp3s > select burn/before burning takes place the files are converted to wav for use in everyday cd players... Please tell me this is possible??
[08:04] <boink> but to answer your question .. yes, you can do an apt-get upgrade
[08:05] <boink> you need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <ttrygve> sorry rockzman, I meant I've never played around with a usb wireless setup
[08:05] <richie> Hello, I successfully mounted a partitioned NTFS harddrive by adding it to my fstab, it is labelled hdb2.. the only error i'm having is that it's set to read only, is there anyway i can get around this?
[08:05] <JanKassens> ok, thank you
[08:05] <boink> just change dapper with edgy ... s/dapper/edgy/
[08:05] <gennio> hi all
[08:05] <rockzman> ttrygve, oh :) fine then thanks anyway
[08:05] <SuperMiguel> i have an domain name how can i make my ip that domain?
[08:05] <boink> then man apt-get
[08:06] <boink> SuperMiguel: I won't explain it again, will you listen this time?
[08:06] <sheriff> ksl : well there s no sound how can i fix it?
[08:06] <boink> it's unfair to make people explain the same question more than once
[08:06] <SuperMiguel> i didnt see it
[08:06] <SuperMiguel> ill will pay atention this time
[08:06] <boink> good .. you can't use the /etc/hosts for that.
[08:07] <ttrygve> SuperMiguel: you need a dns server to do that, there are services that will do that for you, though I don't have any to recommend off the top of my head, or you can set up one of your own.  but I think both options are off topic for #ubuntu
[08:07] <boink> the /etc/hosts is only for your local network
[08:07] <boink> you need a dns
[08:07] <boink> you want to set up your own dns?
[08:07] <boink> if not, use a free dns service
[08:07] <boink> you want a static ip number?
[08:07] <SuperMiguel> which one is better?
[08:07] <RustyJames> does someone else have problems with mouse in edgy?
[08:07] <AsheD> I am told QoS would help my internet to run more smoothly
[08:07] <boink> depends, if you want a static ip number or not
[08:07] <Merjin> how do I restart apache?
[08:07] <boink> s/want/have/
[08:07] <SuperMiguel> i want an static one
[08:07] <richie> Can nobody help me with my harddrive issue?
[08:08] <boink> /etc/init.d/apache restart
[08:08] <shadeofgrey> okay guys and gals
[08:08] <SuperMiguel> is for a server that will hold ft, http, mail server...
[08:08] <boink> SuperMiguel: www.mydomain.com
[08:08] <boink> it's free and a good service
[08:08] <shadeofgrey> how hard is it to dual boot a mnacbookpro running tiger?
[08:08] <Merjin> file not found boink
[08:08] <SuperMiguel> ok thank you :)
[08:08] <boink> what do you have in your /etc/init.d/ ?
[08:09] <SuperMiguel> any way to amke it by my self i have to use blind9?
[08:09] <boink> somelike like apache2 or httpd ?
[08:09] <boink> SuperMiguel: bind9 is one of a few programs to do that with
[08:09] <boink> do an apt-cache search dns
[08:09] <SuperMiguel> is mydomain free?
[08:10] <Merjin> boink > I think it's apache2 -k restart
[08:10] <Merjin> do I need sudo for that
[08:10] <richie> Hello can anybody help me with my harddrive issue? it is successfully mounted but i cannot write, i can only read and execute.
[08:10] <statters> dyndns.org or no-ip.com both work and free as far as I remeber
[08:10] <boink> ok, try that.
[08:10] <boink> dyndns.org and no-ip.com are also very good services
[08:11] <ro1> hello
[08:11] <Merjin> I'm trying to setup a LAMP server but php doesn't recognize mysql_connect() as a function, what am I missing?
[08:11] <sheriff> well i could install flash but there is no sound so how can i fix it?
[08:12] <ninpomonkey> which laptop that vas released in 2006 is the best compatable computer that can run ubuntu out of the box?
[08:12] <shadeofgrey> i also need to know how to enable pcmcia services
[08:13] <Paddy_EIRE> Can anyone tell me how to burn an Audio CD with minimal effort from a bunch of mp3s, Ideal process would be like WMP10 (Open App > Add mp3s > select burn/before burning takes place the files are converted to wav for use in everyday cd players... Please tell me this is possible??
[08:13] <Ronz> ninpomonkey, hp dv1000
[08:13] <ro1> i have a problem with my screen resolution, i can't seem to be able to put in a higher one then 1024x768, if i try it splits the screen in half, could this be related to my video card?
[08:13] <shadeofgrey> ninpomonkey: any dell, toshiba, lenovo...  i suggest lenovo because thdy have the best keyboards by far
[08:13] <shadeofgrey> but thats the beauty of ubuntu
[08:13] <shadeofgrey> it'll run on just about anything
[08:13] <ninpomonkey> ok,thanks :D
[08:14] <xaide> rol
[08:14] <LimonJalisciense> im trying to install totem-xine, and it says, ubuntu-desktop, must be erased could anyone help me?
[08:14] <xaide> rol gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:14] <nataraj_> hi guys
[08:14] <philmo1> hey guys! Does anyone know how to install libqt3c102-mt? (libqt3-mt installed)
[08:14] <ro1> ok, thanx xaide
[08:15] <LjL> !info libqt3c102-mt
[08:15] <nataraj_> how do u simply copy/paste using the file manager, to/from root-protected directories?
[08:15] <ubotu> Package libqt3c102-mt does not exist in any distro I know
[08:15] <LjL> philmo1: that package is only present in Edgy it seems.
[08:15] <xaide> rol
[08:16] <xaide> on screen
[08:16] <xaide> i think says 28-xx
[08:16] <xaide> put 28-64
[08:16] <xaide> and in default depth "24"
[08:16] <xaide> in depth 24 adds
[08:16] <xaide> 1280x1024
[08:16] <nataraj_> i know, this is a stupid question, but please.. i am being forced to use the command-line
[08:17] <rockzman> Could anyone help me with a website/application to discover my hardware chipset?
[08:17] <ro1> ok, thank you xaide
[08:17] <philmo1> is there any way to get the latest scribus on 6.06.1????
[08:17] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone. When I run gksu "update-manager -c -d" I get this error: http://www.shorttext.com/0ce9p1 What might be the problem?
[08:18] <LjL> philmo1: upgrade to Edgy when it's out, i.e. in a couple of days
[08:18] <Zoohouse> im trying to upgrade from Kubuntu 6.06 to Kubuntu 6.10 Beta
[08:18] <nataraj_> u use sudo for the command line right? how to do it in gui?
[08:18] <LjL> !edgy > Zoohouse
[08:18] <codeprophet> Hmm.
[08:19] <Zoohouse> LjL: try agin, i didn't get anything
[08:19] <Zoohouse> oh wait never mind
[08:19] <Heavenquake> i am having trouble with wireless in kubuntu, after some struggle i am now able to see the wanted network on the list in both KNetworkmanager and wlassistant. But when i try to connect, i fail. KNetworkmanager fails after 28% : configuring unit
[08:19] <codeprophet> Anyone in here that's ever gotten Beryl/Compiz working on an iBook G3?
[08:19] <optimusprime_> in order to switch to Edgy(dev) do I need to change my Repositories?
[08:19] <LjL> !gksudo > nataraj_
[08:19] <codeprophet> Or even xgl? :P
[08:19] <Heavenquake> i am from Windows now, so i would like some hints to what i should do when i reboot in kubuntu
[08:19] <codeprophet> optimusprime_: Yes, change from dapper to edgy :)
[08:19] <xaide> depends on ur gfx hardware
[08:19] <ro1> xaide, when i want to save the changes, it says that the file is read only and i can't save
[08:19] <xaide> oh yeah i forgot to say
[08:19] <xaide> use sudo
[08:19] <ro1> ok
[08:19] <ro1> :p
[08:19] <Wheelybin> Hello there. I'm trying to update the contents of a folder (owner is root) but it won't let me copy stuff into there. How do I copy stuff into this folder?
[08:19] <xaide> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:19] <codeprophet> xaide: Radeon mobility 7500
[08:19] <Jaksh_eet> Heavenquake: try sudo restart -n
[08:19] <xaide> ATI
[08:19] <codeprophet> oh duh.
[08:20] <xaide> just install the ATI aceleration XGL
[08:20] <xaide> and configure the server on gdm
[08:20] <codeprophet> Well, does it all work from the repositories?
[08:20] <hid3> Evening everyone. Is there any way to mount my 'mount --bind' links automatically? I mean, can I somehow put those links in /etc/fstab?
[08:20] <codeprophet> Cause I've tried before and it kinda hangs up quite nicely.
[08:20] <xaide> you have to add nw repositories the compiz and xgl ones..
[08:21] <codeprophet> beerorkids?
[08:21] <ro1> ok
[08:21] <nataraj_> LjL: error: missing command to run
[08:21] <JamesG> anyone know what would cause my VNC/Remote Desktop connection to disconnect and then not allow me to log back in again?
[08:22] <JamesG> (after i had been logged in for a few minutes already)
[08:22] <Egyptooo> I am having a problem after installing ati drivers, opengl and direct rendering is working fine alright but when i try to run several apps for example kdetv, opera, aticontrolpanel ...i get Floating point exception, why is that and how to fix it, any help is appreciated:)
[08:22] <xaide> codeprophet yes beerorkid
[08:22] <codeprophet> xaide: So they carry packages for ppc aswell? I didn't know that. Thanks. I shall give it a try. :)
[08:23] <xaide> my english is bad.. what is ppc ?
[08:23] <codeprophet> PowerPC, macintoshes
[08:23] <codeprophet> I'm trying to get it working on an ibook
[08:23] <xaide> we are talking about graphical hardware...
[08:23] <xaide> ati or nvidia
[08:23] <xaide> thats all
[08:24] <codeprophet> ATI, but.. is there any compiz  & xgl-packages put togethor ppc?
[08:24] <xaide> PowerPC is just the PC name.. u have 32 bits procesor.. etc like all
[08:24] <codeprophet> That's the question.
[08:24] <codeprophet> xaide: No, it's a different arch.
[08:24] <xaide> RADEON is radeon
[08:24] <xaide> ati is ati
[08:24] <codeprophet> xaide: ...
[08:24] <codeprophet> You're not getting my point
[08:25] <xaide> no :P{
[08:25] <Wheelybin> Let me rephrase the question I have a folder I want to copy things to, but I cannot, as the owner is root. How can I copy into this folder?
[08:25] <codeprophet> xaide: Has beerorkid put together packages for PowerPC, or only for PC's?
[08:25] <codeprophet> Biiig difference there.
[08:25] <Isaacariah> anyone here know how i can get to the ATi Control panel? the fglrx-control thing?
[08:25] <xaide> PACKAGES ARE FOR Ubuntu dapper
[08:25] <codeprophet> Can't run normal x86-packages on a ppc.
[08:25] <gizmo_the_great1> Hi. I notice during boot that it says 'Starting ACPI Services' which I believe are related to power management etc. How can I look them up and\or shut them down because my PC's keeps freezing. I have used apropos to look up a few such as acpi_listen etc but none appear to be especially useful.
[08:25] <asmo674hurt> please tell me, how to change main menu icon
[08:25] <codeprophet> xaide: THERE ARE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURES
[08:25] <codeprophet> IM NOT ON A PC
[08:25] <codeprophet> :P
[08:25] <codeprophet> ffs
[08:25] <xaide> i know...
[08:25] <SuperMiguel> boink: hey
[08:25] <xaide> 32 bits? :P
[08:26] <LjL> !caps
[08:26] <Isaacariah> or anyone here got an ATi Radeon working with ubuntu?
[08:26] <xaide> x86 most work on it :)
[08:26] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:26] <codeprophet> xaide: Yes? But I still can't run normal 32bit packages. They NEED to be compiled for the powerpc cpu.
[08:26] <codeprophet> ubotu: I'm sorry.
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I'm sorry. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <xaide> mmm i see
[08:26] <codeprophet> xaide: No, absolutely NO x86 packages work on a ppc.
[08:26] <xaide> i dont know how is the arch of a powerpc
[08:26] <codeprophet> It's totally different :)
[08:27] <xaide> :(
[08:27] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to have an dns with my same webpage name?
[08:27] <Wheelybin> ixaacariah. Yes I got ati drivers working in ubuntu, but they're rubbish
[08:27] <xamox> what mailserver do I need to do SMTP?
[08:27] <xamox> better yet, I have a LAMP server setup, and all I want to be able to do is have it send e-mails via Apache, so what do I need?
[08:27] <Egyptooo> anyone can tell me if this error is serious? --->> [fglrx:drm_parse_option]  *ERROR* "agplock" is not a valid option
[08:27] <codeprophet> xamox: more or less any mail delivery-daemon.
[08:28] <ro1> xaide, im a newbie, i installed ubuntu yesterday, can you explain again what im supposed to do?
[08:28] <fairramone> ks1: Thanks. Didn't realize I had to enable multiverse to get unrar.
[08:28] <xamox> codeprophet:  what do you recommend, I would prefer something small, i don't need anymore functionality than that
[08:28] <ks1> fairramone: no problem.
[08:28] <codeprophet> xamox: Exim4 would be the obvious choice.. although perhaps a bit bloated for the task.. hang on, let me do a quick search
[08:28] <xamox> codeprophet:  alright, thx
[08:29] <Isaacariah> Wheelybin, I'm having trouble with them, i've installed them, etc, but nothing happening
[08:29] <codeprophet> xamox: exim4-daemon-light should do the trick. :)
[08:29] <morghanphoenix> Anyone happen to know where my browser's saved passwords, downloaded mail and other personal data is stored?
[08:29] <xamox> codeprophet:  awesome, thx!
[08:29] <Wheelybin> isaacariah what are you trying to do with them? There'e no 3d support, from what I know
[08:30] <Ronz> morghanphoenix, should be in the temp folder of the browsser
[08:30] <morghanphoenix> Want a fresh install, but am really dreading inputing all that again.
[08:30] <Isaacariah> Wheelybin, i used synaptic to grab them, and install them... but i aint noticing any difference... and i was told they had 3D support...
[08:30] <morghanphoenix> that would be /home/user/.opera?
[08:30] <Egyptooo> anyone can tell me if this error is serious? --->> [fglrx:drm_parse_option]  *ERROR* "agplock" is not a valid option
[08:30] <Isaacariah> and i cant get to the ATi control panel either, to configure them
[08:31] <Egyptooo> am i visible by any chance?!:)
[08:31] <gizmo_the_great1> Hi. I notice during boot that it says 'Starting ACPI Services' which I believe are related to power management etc. How can I look them up and\or shut them down because my PC's keeps freezing. I have used apropos to look up a few such as acpi_listen etc but none appear to be especially useful.
[08:31] <Ronz> should be morghanphoenix , yes
[08:31] <codeprophet> Egyptooo: Sounds like a syntax error in the xorg.conf, that's all. Does Xorg work?
[08:31] <morghanphoenix> Nice, so with my seperate home partition I will keep them.
[08:33] <Egyptooo> codeprophet yes it works, but am having problems when i try to run several apps, opera, kdetv, aticontrolpanel.... i get Floating point exception error
[08:33] <richie> Hello, does anybody no how i can stop my storage harddrive mounting in read only?
[08:33] <Egyptooo> this happened after i installed the ati drivers , however direct  render and opengl are working fine
[08:33] <ro1> im having a problem with my screen resolution, i can't put it higher than 1024x768 when i would need a 1280x800, the screen is all split up... (im a real newbie)
[08:34] <codeprophet> Egyptooo: I don't think it has anything to do with that error, but I'm not very experienced with ATI under linux. I'm struggling with it myself for the first time with this ibook.
[08:34] <sktrdie> Hello people
[08:34] <Shadow_mil> 9 Days!
[08:35] <sktrdie> I have a problem in ubuntu with my Flash drive, that it shows up in many devices
[08:35] <sktrdie> /dev/sdc and /dev/sdb1
[08:35] <sktrdie> could anyone help me out?
[08:35] <Egyptooo> codeprophet the funny thing is maya for example works fine with the default ubuntu ati driver, but with the fglrx it doesnt start
[08:35] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: yes
[08:35] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: are you in X-Caht?
[08:35] <steveire> Are there obscure proxy settings I don't know about? I don't use a proxy at home, but when I bring my laptop into college and want to use a K app like kontact or konqueror I have to go into settings, proxy etc. I'd like that if network-manager connects to ESSID"collegenetwork", it would apply "proxy.college.com:8888" automatically. Is it possible?
[08:35] <Shadow_mil> chat*
[08:36] <xaide> Make ur own iptables
[08:36] <xaide> Is the most secure proxy :P
[08:36] <ro1> can anyone help me with my resolution problem?
[08:36] <nataraj_> gksudo gives an error  in the shell saying, ``missing command to run ''. what do i do?
[08:36] <Shadow_mil> ro1: don't ask to ask
[08:37] <ro1> but no one is answering my question
[08:37] <nataraj_> please help guys..
[08:37] <Shadow_mil> ro1: whats your question?
[08:38] <JamesG> "Web Server (apache2)" is checked in my Services panel but apache does NOT startup on reboot -- can anyone help?
[08:38] <Shadow_mil> nataraj_: try gksu
[08:38] <richie> Seriously, I know you guys are under alot of pressure.. but does nobody know how i can stop my harddrive mounting into read-only?
[08:38] <steveire> xaide: Was that at me? I don't understand.
[08:38] <SuperMiguel> there is any way that when i type my web name like miguel.com it will look for my ip?
[08:38] <richie> it's not my root harddrive so i can still edit fstab etc.
[08:38] <ro1> i want to know how to set my screen resolution in 1280x800 correctly, cause when i try the normal way, the screen is all split up, so i guess its a problem with my ATI card
[08:38] <khaled_hosny> does any one know, where to get a patched grub for gfxboot in ubuntu, like dapper cd ?
[08:38] <nataraj_> Shadow_mil: same error. what does it mean?
[08:39] <nataraj_> is gksu/gksudo a diff. utility or differetn form of sudo?
[08:39] <Shadow_mil> nataraj_: gksudo command
[08:40] <Shadow_mil> sudo is for command line
[08:40] <Shadow_mil> gksu/do is more like a GUI version of sudo
[08:40] <Paddy_EIRE> Can anyone tell me how to burn an Audio CD with minimal effort from a bunch of mp3s, Ideal process would be like WMP10 (Open App > Add mp3s > select burn/before burning takes place the files are converted to wav for use in everyday cd players... Please tell me this is possible??
[08:40] <nataraj_> where should i run it? in the shell right?
[08:40] <jouke> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory.   <-- can someone tell me what i can do about this? i am trying to compile a wifi driver module
[08:40] <Shadow_mil> nataraj_: you need a command following gksudo
[08:40] <jouke> PacketScan, serpentine
[08:41] <steveire> who can tell me what iptables are?
[08:41] <SuperMiguel> !off topic
[08:41] <jouke> Paddy_EIRE, serpentine
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <Shadow_mil> nataraj_: what line are you trying?
[08:41] <xaide> jouke first ./configure
[08:41] <SuperMiguel> !offtopic
[08:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:41] <jouke> PacketScan, my bad, wrong user
[08:41] <xaide> if you are trying to compile something
[08:41] <nataraj_> gksudo /username/
[08:41] <jouke> xaide, there is no configure
[08:41] <richie> to say this distro boasts long term support, the support is pretty dire.
[08:41] <Shadow_mil> nataraj_: no, gksudo can't switch users... I think
[08:41] <xaide> jouke u have build-essential installed?
[08:42] <xaide> jouke: btw what are you trying to make?
[08:42] <jouke> lets see
[08:42] <jouke> xaide, the rt61 drivers
[08:42] <PacketScan> jouke,  tis all good :p
[08:42] <Shadow_mil> nataraj_: try this:       gksudo -lu username
[08:42] <nataraj_> Shadow_mil: well there is no `root' user in ubuntu, is there?
[08:42] <nataraj_> k
[08:42] <Paddy_EIRE> jouke: If you're having problems opening certain files make sure you have the GStreamer plugins needed to decode them. I think I have just about every pulgin ever created installed which do I need to get Serpentine to work properly
[08:42] <Shadow_mil> nataraj_: wrong, their is a root user, but root login is disabled
[08:43] <xaide> jouke whats that drivers about?
[08:43] <amortvigil> sorrie for asking here but at debian channel nobody knows the answer ,how can i bundle php5 and mysql ? with wich files?
[08:43] <jouke> Paddy_EIRE, no idea
[08:43] <jouke> xaide, wireless card
[08:44] <Shadow_mil> amortvigil: PHP and MySQL are not bundled.  They connect to each other
[08:44] <Shadow_mil> amortvigil: check out your php.ini file
[08:44] <xaide> Uh wireless.. :S
[08:44] <plamoni> anyone here knowledgeable about ATI drivers?
[08:44] <jouke> xaide, no effect
[08:44] <jouke> xaide, wireless network
[08:44] <Shadow_mil> plamoni: #ati does
[08:44] <plamoni> no one is around ;-)
[08:44] <xaide> jouke yes i see.. i dont know nothing about wireless config on ubuntu i has never used
[08:45] <jouke> xaide, :(
[08:45] <richie> i'd imagine my issue was a pretty simple one, i don't understand why noone is offering me advice, i've been polite enough have i not?
[08:45] <Shadow_mil> plamoni: well this is not the place.  I would suggest you wait for #ati, or try #xorg
[08:45] <plamoni> thanks :-)
[08:46] <nataraj_> Shadow_mil: how do i gain admin or root rights in gui?
[08:46] <ro1> no one is helping me either..
[08:46] <nataraj_> that is in the file-manager
[08:46] <jouke> nataraj_, gksu <command>
[08:46] <xaide> jouke i see that the kubuntu-desktop comes with wireless assistant
[08:46] <xaide> i dont know..
[08:46] <PacketScan> ro1, what's the problem(s) you are having?
[08:46] <Shadow_mil> ro1: ask it!  for the second time
[08:46] <amortvigil> Shadow_mil this is from php.net:Yes. There will always be MySQL support in PHP of one kind or another. The only change in PHP 5 is that we are no longer bundling the client library itself. Some reasons in no particular order:
[08:46] <jouke> xaide, yeah, but i will first need drivers
[08:46] <richie> ro1 heh, you're getting more support than i am :(
[08:46] <Shadow_mil> amortvigil: that seems odd, ask ##php
[08:47] <Shadow_mil> nataraj_: you would have to enable root login to enable root GUI login
[08:47] <ro1> i asked 3 times! i have a problem with my resolution, i cant get it higher then 1024x768 without having the screen all scrambled up, i wanted to know how i could fix this, it could be a problem with my ATI card
[08:48] <Shadow_mil> ro1: do you have the modes added to xorg.conf?
[08:48] <sheriff> someone can help me to install kiba-dock? i finished installing it but when i typed kiba-dock there is nothing on the screen?
[08:48] <PacketScan> ro1, did you install the drivers for your card?
[08:48] <amortvigil> Shadow_mil lol i did there is noone with debian knowledge
[08:48] <ro1> no, i just installed ubuntu yesterday, and im trying to figure the whole thing out
[08:49] <Shadow_mil> amortvigil: Not sure how much this channel will be, this is not a PHP or a debian support, you would have better luck asking ##electronics ;)
[08:49] <Shadow_mil> amortvigil: that was a joke btw
[08:50] <Shadow_mil> amortvigil: best thing I can say, look for PHP extensions in your package manger
[08:50] <amortvigil> k thanx
[08:50] <Shadow_mil> ro1: pastebin this file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:51] <richie> Seriously, does absolutely noone here know how i can stop my hdb2 mounting in read only?
[08:51] <Paddy_EIRE> i never thought burning some mp3s as audio cd would be so difficult or impossible rather, anyone got a simple solution
[08:51] <Shadow_mil> richie: whats you problem?
[08:51] <Shadow_mil> richie: is it NTFS?
[08:51] <richie> Shadow_mil: yes
[08:51] <optimusprime_> how can I get programs to start on start up?....which file do I change?
[08:52] <ro1> Shadow_mil, im not sure about the meaning of "pastebin"...
[08:52] <Shadow_mil> richie: Linux can only mount NTFS natively for read only.  How ever their are NTFS things that can help.
[08:52] <Shadow_mil> ro1: pastebin.ca
[08:52] <steveire> http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/TransparentProxy.html#s5 <<< I was pointed to that to automate the proxy switching, but I don't see how I can automate it. Any ideas?
[08:52] <Isaacariah> anyone know how to enable 3D hardware accel in ubuntu? I got the ATi drivers etc
[08:52] <richie> Shadow_mil: for example?
[08:52] <wildchild> hello, How can I install .exe or how can I run it through vmwplayer, if this is even possible?
[08:53] <Shadow_mil> richie: I am looking, forgot the name lol
[08:53] <sheriff> how can i install kiba-dock?
[08:53] <richie> Shawow_mil: heh, thanks.
[08:53] <ro1> Shadow_mil, am i supposed to type this somewhere?
[08:53] <steveire> No one has any idea?
[08:53] <xamox> okay if I am using exim4 lite for mail server to just be able to send out e-mail from my website(Apache w/ CMS) what option do I want setup by default: internet site(mail sent & received), smarthost(revceived via SMTP/fetchmail), smarthost(localmail) ?
[08:53] <Shadow_mil> ro1 paste it
[08:53] <Shadow_mil> or upload it
[08:53] <ro1> in the terminal?
[08:53] <richie> ro1: he wants you to paste the contents of the file into pastebin.ca
[08:54] <richie> ro1: then give him the link
[08:54] <Shadow_mil> richie: check this out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[08:54] <ro1> ok
[08:54] <richie> Shawow_mil: thankyou.
[08:54] <Shadow_mil> np
[08:55] <ro1> richie: where is pastebin.ca?
[08:55] <Shadow_mil> ro1: http://pastebin.ca
[08:55] <ro1> Shadow_mil: thanks
[08:56] <Mum> hey all
[08:56] <Shadow_mil> Mum: hi
[08:56] <Mum> lol
[08:56] <Mum> hi
[08:56] <nataraj_> ok.. got it finally
[08:56] <Shadow_mil> nataraj_: :)
[08:57] <ro1> Shadow_mil: i pasted it, now what do i do?
[08:57] <aj68> great name changed :)
[08:57] <Shadow_mil> ro1: give me a link
[08:57] <nataraj_> Shadow_mil: :)
[08:57] <sktrdie> I have a problem in ubuntu with my Flash drive, that it shows up in many devices
[08:57] <sktrdie> /dev/sdc and /dev/sdb1
[08:57] <aj68> ok guys im stuck on two things, first is i need to find out if i installed the x64 version of ubuntu, i think i did, i downloaded the AMD64 version?
[08:57] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: you in xchat?
[08:57] <nataraj_> man i could understand the kernel faster
[08:57] <optimusprime_> damn how do you register a nick here?
[08:57] <ro1> Shadow_mil: http://pastebin.ca/207029
[08:58] <sktrdie> Shadow_mil: yes
[08:58] <optimusprime_> :)
[08:58] <spiderworm> hi all, I have a problem with speakers/headphones on my laptop.... sometimes sound switches to speakers when I plug in the headphones, sometimes it doesn't... when it doesn't, I have to reboot to get it to work again
[08:58] <nataraj_> this root system seems a bit confusing
[08:58] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: type   /exec -o ls /dev/sd*
[08:58] <Wodger> nickserv help off the top of my head
[08:58] <aj68> ok guys im stuck on two things, first is i need to find out if i installed the x64 version of ubuntu, i think i did, i downloaded the AMD64 version?
[08:58] <mart_> hi, not an ubuntu question but its quick, and im hopinh someone can help
[08:58] <spiderworm> is there a command I can send to alsa to get it to switch the audio to the headphones manually?
[08:58] <tiger__> anybody here got usb d-link wifi, and got it to work ?
[08:58] <Sp4rKY> hi there
[08:58] <sktrdie> /dev/sda
[08:58] <sktrdie> /dev/sda1
[08:58] <sktrdie> /dev/sda2
[08:58] <sktrdie> /dev/sda5
[08:58] <sktrdie> /dev/sdb
[08:58] <sktrdie> /dev/sdb1
[08:59] <sktrdie> /dev/sdc
[08:59] <mart_> i am building a new system. but the front USB port labels dont match or even come close to the motherboard manual
[08:59] <Shadow_mil> ro1: no paste the contents of the file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:59] <mart_> anyone know a good site that explains them?
[08:59] <Sp4rKY> is there a channel for professional support of ubuntu ?
[08:59] <aj68> how do i check if im running x64 ubuntu?
[08:59] <sktrdie> Shadow_mil: basically the files reside in /dev/sdb1 but I don;t know why it mounts /dev/sdc
[09:00] <ro1> Shadow_mil: i thank you for your patience, but which file are you talking about?
[09:00] <nataraj_> thanks guys, Shadow_mil, jouke, ubotu....
[09:00] <Shadow_mil> ro1: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:00] <Shadow_mil> that information
[09:00] <Shadow_mil> pastebin it
[09:00] <ro1> ok
[09:01] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: not sure
[09:01] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: I would leave it be and be happy
[09:01] <ro1> Shadow_mil: i submit it?
[09:01] <Shadow_mil> ro1: yes
[09:01] <sheriff> is there any link about how to install kiba-dock or any other useful docks?
[09:01] <nawolfe> is it possible to install a .deb from a non-root account (install it in my home dir)?
[09:02] <sktrdie> Shadow_mil: why?
[09:02] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: if it works
[09:02] <bluefox83> hey, how do you do filesends in an ssh session?
[09:02] <zotinx_wtf> hi all
[09:02] <zotinx_wtf> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2076/imag04646pi.jpg
[09:02] <ro1> Shadow_mil: done
[09:02] <zotinx_wtf> thats me
[09:02] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: don't try to fix it if it anti broken
[09:02] <Shadow_mil> ro1: link
[09:02] <POVaddct> bluefox83: man scp
[09:02] <Shadow_mil> bluefox83: sshfs
[09:03] <POVaddct> Shadow_mil: yeah, sshfs is more convenient
[09:03] <bluefox83> scp?
[09:03] <ro1> Shadow_mil: http://pastebin.ca/207033 what are you going to do with it?
[09:03] <bluefox83> sshfs? hrm
[09:03] <Shadow_mil> ro1: add modes
[09:03] <sktrdie> Shadow_mil: I need to boot from it, and it won't let me so I figured that's the problem
[09:03] <zotinx_wtf> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2076/imag04646pi.jpg <--
[09:03] <zotinx_wtf> :))))
[09:03] <wildchild> tralala, what does vmware player? (I wanna on my linux some windows program running)
[09:03] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: it might be a problem with your BIOS, check out your BIOS settings
[09:04] <SEN-5421> anyone here using Bluetooth?
[09:04] <Shadow_mil> ro1: no no no!   Open a terminal
[09:04] <SEN-5421> I cannot get it working with Edgy
[09:04] <LjL> wildchild: can you rephrase your question please?
[09:04] <zotinx_wtf> SEN-5421, http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2076/imag04646pi.jpg
[09:04] <SEN-5421> I have had bluetooth working on two other distros
[09:04] <Shadow_mil> SEN-5421: #ubuntu+1
[09:04] <SEN-5421> zotinx_wtf, ?
[09:04] <SEN-5421> Shadow_mil, thx
[09:04] <zotinx_wtf> thats me!
[09:04] <zotinx_wtf> :))
[09:04] <sktrdie> Shadow_mil: when I boot from USB is says that it cannot because the image is corrupted. even though it should work, so I figured is probably the problem of the devices showing up
[09:04] <ro1> Shadow_mil: i did say i was completely new to this
[09:05] <PacketScan> zotinx_wtf, you should be dragged into the street and shot
[09:05] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: I don't know anything about booting to USB I am sorry
[09:05] <tiger__> bluefox83, : scp -rp name.of.folder.or.file /your/destination/folder
[09:05] <tiger__> remember: scp -rp name.of.ssh.session:"filename" then your destination
[09:05] <Shadow_mil> ro1: PM
[09:05] <tiger__> my bad
[09:05] <wildchild> LjL: I've installed vmware player. Couse I wanna play .exe application, that goes with windows..
[09:05] <zotinx_wtf> why PacketScan? :(
[09:05] <Shadow_mil> wildchild: wine
[09:05] <SEN-5421> anyone here using bluetooth on dapper?
[09:06] <raindog> Using Firestarter, sometimes the list of active connections doesn't seem to update.  Is there a way to get it to only list the actual active connections?
[09:06] <wildchild> but I've allready installed vmware Shadow_mil
[09:06] <PacketScan> zotinx_wtf, your shouldn't be posting links to obscene pictures.
[09:06] <Shadow_mil> wildchild: ok run it, install windows on it, and be happy
[09:06] <LjL> wildchild, VMWare Player is a PC emulator. You need to install Windows on it, as if it were a real computer, before being able to run any Windows application
[09:06] <zotinx_wtf> PacketScan, obscene?
[09:06] <zotinx_wtf> why?
[09:06] <zotinx_wtf> thats me!!!!
[09:06] <zotinx_wtf> :))))
[09:06] <nawolfe> hey guys, is it possible to install a .deb from a non-priviledged account (install it in my home dir)?
[09:06] <ro1> Shadow_mil: arent you getting my PM replies?
[09:06] <Shadow_mil> ro1: no, are you registered?
[09:07] <ro1> Shadow_mil: i don't think so...
[09:07] <wildchild> LjL how can I install windows with vmware player
[09:07] <LjL> nawolfe, no. you might possibly use a chroot jail
[09:07] <Shadow_mil> ro1: type:        /msg nickserv register password             were password is a password of your picking
[09:07] <Shadow_mil> only type what is between the "              "
[09:07] <nawolfe> LjL: ok thanks
[09:07] <LjL> wildchild: first you need to create a virtual machine, because the player doesn't allow you to make one. you can go to http://www.easyvmx.com to create one
[09:07] <josh___> !easysources
[09:07] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:07] <codeprophet> Hmm, I'm bored. Anyone need any help with anything?
[09:07] <roshan_s> SEN-5421: I'm using edgy, but I've used bluetooth on dapper
[09:07] <dungodung> how to open a port?
[09:07] <LjL> wildchild: then you'd just install it like on a real computer
[09:08] <ro1> Shadow_mil: where do i type this?
[09:08] <Shadow_mil> ro1: IRC
[09:08] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, I keep getting an rfcomm can't connect error. Do you know the cause of this?
[09:08] <ro1>  /msg nickserv register donaldduck
[09:08] <Shadow_mil> ro1: make sure the / has no spaces infront of it
[09:08] <PacketScan> codeprophet, yea we need to get zotinx_wtf banned from freenode.
[09:08] <dungodung> codeprophet: I do
[09:08] <ro1> Shadow_mil; sorry...
[09:08] <codeprophet> PacketScan: Really?
[09:08] <PacketScan> dead serious..
[09:08] <zotinx_wtf> PacketScan, lol.
[09:09] <roshan_s> SEN-5421: Have your devices successfully paired?
[09:09] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, I have this same setup on a Gentoo system with a Broadcom bluetooth adapter and managed to get it working from source in an hour... with edgy I am stuck with this error.
[09:09] <xamox> how do I check with apt-get if a package is installed or not?
[09:09] <GhostFreeman> something is eating up my CPU cycles and I can't figure out what it is
[09:09] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, I can only hcitool scan and see the bluetooth headset...
[09:09] <xamox> or get a list of packages for that matter
[09:09] <Shadow_mil> xamox: dpkg
[09:09] <codeprophet> PacketScan: Why? :P
[09:10] <PacketScan> posting links to obsense pictures
[09:10] <codeprophet> dungodung: Okay, with what? :)
[09:10] <PacketScan> that have nothing todo with ubuntu.
[09:10] <dungodung> codeprophet: I want to enable/open port 22
[09:10] <ro1> Shadow_mil: where do I type the command?
[09:10] <codeprophet> PacketScan: Then he should be banned from the channel, not the network.
[09:10] <aj68> anyone here on x64 ubuntu?
[09:10] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, when I used btsco2 XX:XX:XX:XX 1 I get the rfcomm error. I do not know how to pair the device exactly... on Gentoo I turn the headset to pairing mode and then run the pin-helper script and that pairs the headset to my bluetooth adapter.
[09:11] <Shadow_mil> ro1: just like you did, but don't add spaces
[09:11] <zotinx_wtf> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2076/imag04646pi.jpg <--
[09:11] <zotinx_wtf> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2076/imag04646pi.jpg <--
[09:11] <codeprophet> dungodung: For ssh, I assume? Have you got the openssh-server installed?
[09:11] <zotinx_wtf> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2076/imag04646pi.jpg <--
[09:11] <zotinx_wtf> !!!
[09:11] <dungodung> codeprophet: I hope I do
[09:11] <roshan_s> SEN-5421: Your best course of action is something like this. Make a little script which does this: "echo PIN:1234" and put it in, say "/etc/bluetooth/echo_pin".
[09:11] <ro1> Shadow_mil: ok
[09:11] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, yes I have that
[09:11] <codeprophet> dungodung: sudo apt-get install openssh-server otherwise. :-)
[09:11] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, it is /etc/bluetooth/pin-helper
[09:11] <LjL> !ops
[09:11] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:12] <codeprophet> zotinx_wtf: Heh, please don't spam. :P
[09:12] <Seveas> LjL, ?
[09:12] <blastura> Hello
[09:12] <LjL> seveas, zotinx_wtf
[09:12] <Seveas> LjL, I thought you were an op already 
[09:12] <roshan_s> SEN-5421: What does /var/log/daemon.log contain when you try to pair it?
[09:12] <zotinx_wtf> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2076/imag04646pi.jpg
[09:12] <zotinx_wtf> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2076/imag04646pi.jpg
[09:12] <zotinx_wtf> !!!
[09:12] <zotinx_wtf> :DDD
[09:12] <zotinx_wtf> :DDDDD
[09:12] <dungodung> codeprophet: I do
[09:12] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, one sec
[09:12] <db-> zotinx_wtf is that you
[09:12] <LjL> Seveas: ?
[09:12] <GhostFreeman> yeah so something in my system is running with all my CPU power, and I can't figure out what
[09:12] <codeprophet> dungodung: Okay. Is it started? Are you behind a firewall or router?
[09:13] <codeprophet> GhostFreeman: Run 'top' in a terminal.
[09:13] <qwe1> I just don't get this wol thing to work. with ethtools I get Wake-on: g and if the PC is off, the lights from the onboard LAN are on.
[09:13] <ro1> Shadow_mil: it says no such command, is there a space between my password and the command?
[09:13] <PacketScan> Seveas, Thank you :p
[09:13] <nalioth> PacketScan: who? lol
[09:13] <GhostFreeman> here we go
[09:13] <codeprophet> Oops, afk guys.
[09:13] <codeprophet> Talk later. :P
[09:13] <GhostFreeman> I have two rouge nano processes
[09:13] <dungodung> codeprophet: I don't have firewall/router. not that I know of, at least... ssh is started
[09:13] <PacketScan> nalioth, that you too :p
[09:13] <dungodung> darn
[09:13] <GhostFreeman> to kill them its sudo kill [PROCESSID]  right?
[09:14] <ro1> Shadow_mil: i'll never learn if you don't explain
[09:14] <Shadow_mil> type "/msg nickserv register password"  from start to finish, do not include the "" only what is between the ""
[09:15] <GhostFreeman> thanks codeprophet!
[09:15] <xaide> Now listen : Slipknot - Wait and bleed..
[09:15] <ro1> Shadow_mil: thanks, and now after "password" i type the password
[09:16] <Paddy_EIRE> im in the middle of downloading a large download with "freeloader" Ichecked the preferences only just now to realise it says "save every file in /tmp" then "move completed files to /home/my/desktop" is it safe to turn of the comp with the partially downloaded file in "/tmp" ???
[09:16] <Paddy_EIRE> err
[09:16] <Shadow_mil> ro1: no replace password with your password
[09:16] <sktrdie> can anyone help me with USB booting?
[09:16] <sktrdie> for an ubuntu net install
[09:16] <Paddy_EIRE> im in the middle of downloading a large download with*
[09:16] <Shadow_mil> sktrdie: booting to USB has more to do with your BIOS then your OS
[09:17] <ro1> Shadow_mil: do i include spaces, or should everything be together?
[09:17] <mrmknet> How do I mount an iso image on ubuntu?
[09:17] <Shadow_mil> ro1: no include the spaces
[09:17] <LjL> !mountiso > mrmknet
[09:17] <ro1> ok
[09:17] <_AA_> mount -o loop image.iso /mnt/mountpoint
[09:17] <DigitalNinja> I just went to cnn.com and couldn't watch the video. They want Windows Media Player. Is there a way to fix this?
[09:17] <sktrdie> Shadow_mil: I know, but I've setup the Boot IMAGE so I need to know
[09:18] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, http://pasebin.ca/207056
[09:18] <_AA_> anyone know what the maildrop package is called in ubuntu? I seem to be unable to find it with apt?
[09:19] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, http://pastebin.ca/207056
[09:19] <Egyptooo> how to uninstall the ati driver if the installation method was the one described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:19] <Paddy_EIRE> would anyone consider "Freeloader" good for torrents
[09:19] <ro1> Shadow_mil: it says my nickname is already registered
[09:19] <Shadow_mil> ro1: pick another
[09:19] <mrmknet> _AA_: Thanks it is a bit diffrent syntax than knoppix, that why i couldnt mount
[09:19] <ro1> ok
[09:20] <Shadow_mil> ro1: type        /nick newnick
[09:20] <richie> hey shadow_mil, i followed that guide word for word, now i get the error.. mount: only root can mount /dev/hdb2 on /mnt/hdb2
[09:20] <teicah> hi, what is the plugin that allows totem-xine to play mp3s?
[09:20] <lowfi> lol
[09:20] <roshan_s> SEN-5421: I don't understand. NetworkManager is supposed to ignore bluetooth devices. Is that all the output? I don't use NetworkManager, and I've never seen this kind of problem before.
[09:20] <rob1> Shadow_mil: ok, i changed it to rob1
[09:20] <granbar> Hello. Why do I have a network device called wmaster0 =
[09:21] <pak-x> hi
[09:21] <cache1> if i want to partition my current installation in to two sections, is there an easy way i can follow?
[09:21] <Shadow_mil> rob1: ok register like you did before
[09:21] <rob1> ok
[09:21] <Shadow_mil> richie: :\
[09:21] <cache1> dammit
[09:22] <_AA_> mrmknet:  I just used that exact command to mount a gentoo iso?
[09:22] <wildchild> can't find any new repo for wine..
[09:22] <wildchild> I am using kubuntu 6.06
[09:22] <cached> there
[09:22] <cached> dont steal my name
[09:22] <richie> Shadow_mil: yeah i don't understand, is there anyway i can give myself root, not just with sudo?
[09:22] <_AA_> su - ???
[09:23] <cached> if i want to partition my current installation in to two sections, is there an easy way i can follow?
[09:23] <Shadow_mil> richie: sudo -i
[09:23] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, http://pastebin.ca/207061
[09:23] <Shadow_mil> wildchild: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[09:23] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, I needed to run btsco again.
[09:23] <richie> Shadow_mil does that work everywhere or just terminal?
[09:24] <cached> can someone please answer?
[09:24] <cached> if i want to partition my current installation in to two sections, is there an easy way i can follow?
[09:24] <Shadow_mil> richie: just terminal
[09:24] <jcooke> anyone know offhand what changed with the recent kernel update that breaks the broadcom drivers using ndiswrapper
[09:24] <richie> Shadow_mil: hmm, do you know how i can mount it then?
[09:24] <_AA_> cached:  no
[09:25] <cached> _AA_ what does gparted do
[09:25] <_AA_> anyone using maildrop on ubuntu ?
[09:25] <Shadow_mil> richie: sudo modprobe fuse && sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[09:25] <Shadow_mil> what does that output?
[09:25] <_AA_> cached: man gparted ?
[09:26] <johnny_> cached yea use gparted
[09:26] <roshan_s> SEN-5421: If it's a pairing problem, the error will be from hcid. In that case, if you can't solve the problem now, and are willing to wait a while and install edgy, it has a fantastic little Gnome applet for bluetooth operations.
[09:26] <Abby> if I have Kubuntu installed strait from a disk, is there a way to change it to be Gnome? (Finding KDE rather frustrating
[09:26] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, I just upgraded to edgy... what is the applet?
[09:26] <cached> abby, install ubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <_AA_> cached:  you can't just go resizing partitions without running the risk of losing data.
[09:27] <anon32> Abby, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <anon32> personally, I wish I chose kubuntu..
[09:27] <johnny_> backup data, defrag, resize
[09:27] <johnny_> if resizing windows partition
[09:28] <cached> and if it is an ubuntu partition?
[09:28] <anon32> cached, just resize then
[09:28] <cherubiel> cached: use gparted
[09:29] <cached> anon, cherubiel, it doesnt let me. the button is disabled.
[09:29] <DigitalNinja> cnn.com is asking for windows media player. Is there a way to watch the videos with out windws media player?
[09:29] <aalafko> Quick question: how do I set my network card to always use a certain DNS server, while still getting its IP from DHCP?
[09:29] <richie> Shadow_mil: it just tells me that the devices are busy
[09:29] <cherubiel> cached: are you trying to use ht partiton ubuntu is on ?
[09:29] <anon32> cached, hmm, I've run into that problem too
[09:29] <cherubiel> cached
[09:29] <anon32> I think it has to do with missing libs
[09:29] <cached> cherubiel: yes
[09:30] <cherubiel> cached: tried the gparted livecd ?
[09:30] <cached> cherubiel: no. should I?
[09:30] <cached> cherubiel: I also have a windows partition. can i run gparted from that?
[09:30] <Shadow_mil> richie: pastebin your fstab file
[09:30] <_AA_> so there is no one in here using maildrop on their ubuntu distros ?
[09:30] <cherubiel> cached: gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php, burn the livecd and run it.
[09:31] <bhearsum> i'm not trying to troll, so please don't interpret it as that but i was wondering if anybody has set up an apt repository that provides non-debian patched firefox/thunderbird builds
[09:31] <aalafko> Anybody know how to configure /etc/network/interfaces to not pull DNS info from the DHCP broadcast?
[09:31] <cached> cherubiel: ok, thanks!
[09:32] <_AA_> aalafko: /etc/resolv.conf ???
[09:33] <scobie> hi ppl
[09:33] <anon32> he, are there any good games for Linux (good == Half-Life2/Far Cry/Doom3)?
[09:33] <db-> resolv.conf gets reset every new dhcp lease
[09:33] <cherubiel> cached: use /sbin/swapoff -a to unmount the swap drives before you try to resize it(if required)
[09:33] <aalafko> _AA_: that gets overwritten, yeah
[09:33] <richie> Shadow_mil: http://pastebin.ca/207070
[09:33] <FunnyLookinHat> anon32, wolfenstein enemy territory
[09:33] <Subhuman> anon32, umm quake 4, doom 3, unreal tournament...
[09:33] <anon32> YAY
[09:33] <anon32> do they run native?
[09:33] <zancdar> bonjour tout le monde
[09:33] <aalafko> I want to keep getting dhcp leases for IP info and the like, but I want to specify my own DNS :-/
[09:33] <Subhuman> anything by ID software has a linux port
[09:33] <cherubiel> !fr
[09:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:33] <Subhuman> anon32, yes.
[09:33] <FunnyLookinHat> anon32, yes.  and there is fairly good emulation software out to allow you to play windows games too
[09:34] <scobie> i am stuck in xserver error .when i start my computer i get error from ubuntu or xserver :( i cant do the command to reset my xserver .it says xserver package isnt installd :(
[09:34] <cherubiel> anon32: cedega is the way to go
[09:34] <anon32> FunnyLookinHat, fairly good as in... WINE?
[09:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Subhuman: are these ports available in the shops
[09:34] <anon32> don't you have to pay for Cedega?
[09:34] <dooglus> my Mum just updated from breezy to dapper using the update-manager program.  her network connection no longer comes up.
[09:34] <cherubiel> !cedega
[09:34] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[09:34] <FunnyLookinHat> anon32, WINE works decently though it can be hard to get working.  Cedega works very well but will cost you 5$ a month to keep updated
[09:34] <aalafko> !DNS
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DNS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <Subhuman> Paddy_EIRE, no you use the windows disc, and grab a linux installer from the site, it rips the data from the windows cd.
[09:34] <dooglus> she uses a wireless connection, with nsid-wrapper and a windows driver.
[09:34] <dooglus> is this a common problem?  and if so, what's the solution?
[09:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Subhuman: feck!!! nice one
[09:35] <johnny_> can call of duty be ran on cedega?
[09:35] <anon32> mm... next question... are there good F/OSS games (same definition)?
[09:35] <anon32> johnny_, have you tried?
[09:35] <db-> johnny_ the first COD can
[09:35] <Shadow_mil> richie: what partition is NTFS on?
[09:35] <cherubiel> johnny_: they have a list of tested games, check out on the site.
[09:35] <FordPrefect> johnny_ there is a #cedega channel here fyi
[09:35] <johnny_> no i was just wonding i hope to xp to play cod
[09:35] <johnny_> hop*
[09:35] <mluser-work> I have a package that has gotten corrupted. I cant remove or reinstall it using either aptitude, apt-get, or dpkg.. any tips on how to get rid of it?
[09:36] <scobie> i am stuck in xserver error .when i start my computer i get error from ubuntu or xserver :( i cant do the command to reset my xserver .it says xserver package isnt installd :( what to do plzzzzzzz
[09:36] <roshan_s> SEN-5421: It's bluez-passkey-gnome. Make sure you run update /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf and run an "rm -r /var/lib/bluetooth/*"
[09:36] <cherubiel> mluser-work: apt-get --reinstall <packagename>
[09:36] <richie> Shadow_mil: parition 2
[09:36] <Shadow_mil> hdb2?
[09:36] <mluser-work> cherubiel: I tried that.. its failing on "touch: missing file operand"
[09:36] <Geoffrey2> what is the address for the searchable Dapper repository list?
[09:36] <aalafko> Just in case: you can modify the /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file and uncomment the prepend line
[09:37] <aalafko> :)
[09:37] <aalafko> Thanks guys/gals
[09:37] <cherubiel> Geoffrey2: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[09:37] <raintheory> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:38] <Geoffrey2> cherubiel, ok, thanks...
[09:38] <LjL> !packages
[09:38] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:38] <cherubiel> mluser-work: apt-get --reinstall install <packagename>
[09:39] <raintheory> anyone up for helping me with a VNC connection to my Edgy box upstairs?     I can get into it via VNC on Windoze, but not from Dapper...
[09:39] <mluser-work> cherubiel: I'll try that.. thanks
[09:39] <richie> Shadow_mil: yes, hdb2
[09:39] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, thx
[09:39] <l0st1> is it possible to play .mov files in Dapper?
[09:39] <raintheory> or should I use a method other than VNC?
[09:39] <anon32> l0st1, mov is just a container
[09:40] <mluser-work> cherubiel: damn.. still not working.. same error about touch missing a file opperand.. the package is kcemirror btw
[09:40] <anon32> if you mean Sorenson, which is the QuickTime codec, then you need XINE or MPlayer or VLC
[09:41] <Shadow_mil> richie: type /exec -o groups
[09:41] <l0st1> yeah I already have those but I can't seem to play the Quicktime movies.....
[09:41] <l0st1> do I need to install some sort of Codec?
[09:41] <db-> you need the win32 codec pack on the mplayer website
[09:41] <cherubiel> mluser-work: looks like a broken deb
[09:41] <Jhonny1009> hello. The installer freezes while ... installing..I tried to install 3 times but it just halts. I have 6.06 desktop.
[09:41] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, none of what you mentioned worked.
[09:41] <mluser-work> Preparing to replace kcemirror 0.1.4-3ubuntu1 (using .../kcemirror_0.1.4-3ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[09:41] <mluser-work> Unpacking replacement kcemirror ...
[09:41] <mluser-work> touch: missing file operand
[09:42] <richie> Shadow_mil: bash: /exec: No such file or directory
[09:42] <Shadow_mil> Just type groups
[09:42] <mluser-work> This is keeping me from doing any additional install or upgrades.. is there a way to just remove that package from the database?
[09:42] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, the bluez-passkey-gnome application downloaded but it not available to add to panel as an applet ... and I cannot find the binary file to run
[09:42] <Geoffrey2> is there any program you can use to print envelopes, or is the easiest way probably to load up OpenOffice and use the envelope feature there?
[09:42] <Jhonny1009> is there another way of installing other than the livecd install?
[09:42] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, "update /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf" did nothing
[09:43] <db-> Jhonny1009 did you try reburning the livecd?
[09:43] <KenSentMe> johnny_: you can download the alternate install cd for a text mode install
[09:43] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, there was nothing to remove in /var/lib/bluetooth
[09:43] <Jhonny1009> no, but I checked the cd
[09:43] <KenSentMe> !alternate > Jhonny1009
[09:43] <roshan_s> SEN-5421: Did you log out and log in again? It's not a panel applet, sorry. It's a background process. You need to check if the bt-applet process is running. It'll start automatically when you next log in.
[09:43] <KenSentMe> Jhonny1009: the above message was for you too
[09:43] <richie> Shadow_mil: richie adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin ntfs
[09:44] <SEN-5421> rok
[09:44] <Jhonny1009> thanks KenSentMe
[09:44] <SEN-5421> roshan_s, k
[09:44] <roshan_s> SEN-5421: I meant you must make sure that if, while upgrading, it asks you if you want to update hcid.conf or stick with the old version, you must upgrade. If you did a fresh install of edgy, it doesn't matter
[09:44] <Shadow_mil> richie: ls -l /mnt/hdb2
[09:45] <richie> Shadow_mil: total 0
[09:45] <cherubiel> mluser-work: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/<pakagename>.postrm-bak; :
[09:45] <cherubiel> sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq <package name>; apt-get -f install
[09:45] <mluser-work> cherubiel: thanks.. I'll try now
[09:46] <Shadow_mil> richie:try:   ls -l /media/hdb2
[09:46] <SeanTater> I'm totally confused on what I did wrong on this: http://clancy.homelinux.com/smartslide-alpha1.py -- dvd-slideshow (which it depends on), mixes up the arguments sent to it.. anyone know how they got mixed up?
[09:46] <cherubiel> richie: wats the problem?
[09:47] <Shadow_mil> cherubiel: trying to mount NTFS for read and write, he did whats on the guild page, I think I found the source of his problem though
[09:47] <scobie> i am stuck in xserver error .when i start my computer i get error from ubuntu or xserver :( i cant do the command to reset my xserver .it says xserver package isnt installd :( what to do plzzzzzzz
[09:48] <thomerz> hi, in which file the default shell for my user is defined? my user is not in /etc/passwd
[09:48] <LjL> thomerz: ... it isn't?
[09:48] <thomerz> LjL: no :/
[09:48] <LjL> thomerz: how can that be?
[09:48] <Ykstort> I tried ubuntu livecd and it screwed up my MBR :\
[09:49] <thomerz> LjL: i don't know
[09:49] <SeanTater> thomerz: can you log out and back in?
[09:49] <SeanTater> thomerz: not that you should, but is it possible?
[09:49] <thomerz> SeanTater: no, the user i try to help has tried to change his default shell, and used the wrong path, now he can't login
[09:50] <scobie> ljl plz help me
[09:50] <LjL> !helpme
[09:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:50] <voraistos> hey guys. does any one has a http proxy server adress? My isp's crashed and i cant browse anymore ...
[09:50] <SEN-5421> roshan_s,  !!!!!!!!!!! thanks so much! I was messing with bluetooth on my UX-180p for a few hours yesterday knowing that the hardware worked but the configuration for bluetooth under Edgy must have changed and something got "broken" ... bluez-passkey-gnome fixed my issue!
[09:50] <scobie> !helpme
[09:51] <scobie> !helpme
[09:51] <SeanTater> thomerz: if it;s what you are looking for, the correct sell is /bin/bash I think
[09:51] <Ykstort> I tried ubuntu livecd and it screwed up my MBR :\
[09:51] <LjL> scobie: stop doing that. i just wanted to inform you that "please help me" isn't quite the kind of questions we want here.
[09:51] <thomerz> SeanTater: no i'm not looking for that, i'm looking for the file where the default shell is specified, so i can fix it from a live cd
[09:51] <LjL> scobie: anyway, did you install using the Desktop CD?
[09:51] <SeanTater> !msg the bot > scobie
[09:52] <TOOAO> Question, is Ubuntu able to boot from any of the installed harddrives? I have an older PC here, which should run Win98 and Ubuntu, but Win98 on that old PC is only able to boot if its on the primary master hdd, am I still able to install ubuntu on another hdd, lets say secondary master? or will I have trouble with that?
[09:52] <SeanTater> thomerz: I thought it was /etc/passwd (but you probably want to edit it as root)
[09:52] <roshan_s> SEN-5421: You're welcome. This has been a rather long saga documented in Ubuntu bug #59222
[09:52] <xaide> HOW i restar my Network interface!!
[09:52] <xaide> ?
[09:52] <Ykstort> I tried ubuntu livecd and it screwed up my MBR :\
[09:53] <thomerz> SeanTater: 2 problems: the user isn't in /etc/passwd, and there is no root account to work from
[09:53] <andrzej> ifdown/ifup ?
[09:53] <Shadow_mil> richie: you their?
[09:54] <SeanTater> thomerz: the live cd had a root account. You need to edit the file (in the disk, not in the live cd), with the text editor, sudoed to root, on the live cd (make any sense?)
[09:54] <xaide> How to restar Network Interface
[09:54] <xaide> ?
[09:54] <thomerz> SeanTater: but there is still problem 1
[09:54] <granbar> Does anybody have a Cnet CWP-854?
[09:55] <SeanTater> xaide: try --> /etc/init.d/networking restart <-- in a terminal
[09:55] <cherubiel> xaide: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:55] <xaide> thx!
[09:55] <rem__> .
[09:55] <SeanTater> xaide: cherubiel's is better
[09:55] <cherubiel> :P
[09:55] <sheriff> i have beryl and i wanna use kiba-dock so i downloaded the deb file but its not in the menu so what problem might be?
[09:55] <SeanTater> rem__: ..
[09:56] <mince> hi all..I downloaded and burned xubuntu-6.06-desktop-i306.iso but it doesn't start booting after I insert it into my cd mechanic..
[09:56] <xaide> My ISP gives me DHCP :(
[09:56] <sheriff> mince : does the menu come up?
[09:57] <SeanTater> thomerz: does this make sense, when run on the live cd? sudo gedit /mnt/disk/etc/passwd (or a variant where mnt can be media and disk could be a lot of things)
[09:57] <rem__> dyndns xaid .. :) ..?
[09:57] <jouke> well, people. i need some help
[09:57] <Shadow_mil> jouke: problem?
[09:57] <SeanTater> !helpme > jouke
[09:57] <granbar> And I could really use some wlan help as well
[09:57] <SeanTater> !wifi > granbar
[09:57] <granbar> Are there anybody here who can help?
[09:58] <cherubiel> !wireless
[09:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:58] <thomerz> SeanTater: yes, but i do not find the user in /etc/passwd :P
[09:58] <Shadow_mil> granbar: problem?
[09:58] <SeanTater> thomerz: ah -- okay
[09:58] <mince> sheriff: no..windows starts booting:(
[09:58] <rem__> adduser .. ?
[09:58] <SeanTater> thomerz: not entirely sure what you can do
[09:58] <cherubiel> mince: bios boot sequence?
[09:58] <granbar> Shadow_mil: I've got a Cnet CWP-854 card. I can scan and find the appropriate network ( which has WAP encryption ), but I can't connect
[09:58] <thomerz> SeanTater: i try to make the entry myself then
[09:58] <jouke> i have a wireless card and all drivers seem to be functional as the rt61 module is loaded. and that is the chipset it uses, i mean, i think it uses. now when i scan for networks, nothing is found, but when i scan with another usb wifi card, multiple are found. so , what could be wrong and where to start debugging?
[09:59] <SeanTater> thomerz: okay
[09:59] <sheriff> mince : well u have to set the cd-rom to boot first in bios
[09:59] <sureshot> mince did you burn it as an iso to cd or just burned the .iso file to a cd.. you have to have burner software that can handle iso's
[09:59] <granbar> Shadow_mil: Okay, thanks.
[09:59] <jouke> "/
[09:59] <anon32> there's too much fragmentation in the linux world....
[09:59] <anon32> gah...
[10:00] <mince> sureshot: In Nero..there are all files on that cd
[10:00] <cherubiel> granbar: set up all the keys? try wifi-radar
[10:00] <mince> sheriff: it shoudl be set up. other cds boot..
[10:00] <rem__> mince...you can starup with aq livecd mount the disk chroot in it do a grub-install /dev/hda (or wherever your nux boot is...) reboot and it should start ubuntu ...
[10:00] <sureshot> then set you cd to boot first than it should work
[10:00] <mince> rem__: I am using windows xp now:)
[10:00] <cherubiel> mince: did you verify the iso's checksum? maybe it was corrupted?
[10:00] <granbar> brb
[10:00] <rem__> ah k
[10:00] <mince> cheriubiel: nop how?
[10:01] <rem__> sorry to hear it .. :P
[10:01] <sheriff> mince : did you burn the iso file or just put the iso file into a cd
[10:02] <xaide>  http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2715/pantallazoar2.jpg
[10:02] <Shadow_mil> 9 days!
[10:02] <mince> sheriff: I burned the iso cd image
[10:02] <xaide> 2 hours of updates :D
[10:02] <xaide> @24,5kb
[10:02] <cherubiel> mince: get some md5 checksum tool if you're on windows, verify if the checksum matches with the one on the site from you d/led the iso
[10:02] <sheriff> mince : what happens when u put the cd while you are running windows
[10:02] <mince> sheriff: nothing
[10:03] <ro1> Shadow_mil: sorry to tell you this, but it didnt change anything...
[10:03] <cherubiel> mince: can you explore and see the directory listing on the livecd?
[10:03] <rem__> how do you switch between desktops like that xaid .. ?
[10:03] <rem__> http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2715/pantallazoar2.jpg
[10:03] <Shadow_mil> ro1 PM, his time use identify and not register
[10:03] <mince> cherubiel: yes. there are ".disk", casper, dists, install, isolinux,pics,pool and preseed dictionaries
[10:03] <^Ocean^> rem: Are u running XGL ?
[10:04] <jouke> arg, i want wireless :(
[10:04] <meatface> hey
[10:04] <sheriff> mince : well if nothing comes up then you either couldn't download it or you couldn't burn it exactly
[10:04] <meatface> are people allowed to spam on this channel?
[10:04] <cherubiel> lol
[10:04] <mince> sheriff: should I try to download it again?
[10:04] <cherubiel> good question
[10:04] <ro1> Shadow_mil: can you send me the whole command again please?
[10:04] <jouke> [17179609.988000]  ra0 (WE) : Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver !
[10:04] <^Ocean^> rem__, are u running XGL ?
[10:04] <jouke>     <--- hmmm\
[10:05] <xaide> This is the most visited channel of Freenode
[10:05] <meatface> as soon as I came on I get a pm from LimboBox trying to sell me a laptop
[10:05] <sheriff> no can you check the md5 file of your iso file
[10:05] <Shadow_mil> ro1 first change you nick to: Donald1
[10:05] <rem__> hmm..dunno ..i dont think so...how can I know...how can I install ?
[10:05] <cherubiel> md5 sum of the iso, google for tools on windows..
[10:05] <rem__> ap-get ?
[10:05] <mince> sheriff: I'll try..
[10:05] <xaide> apt!
[10:05] <^Ocean^> rem__, its higly developmental at the moment
[10:05] <xaide> !apt
[10:06] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:06] <^Ocean^> and its not easy too install
[10:06] <Donald1> Shadow_mil: ok, i can do the rest
[10:06] <Shadow_mil> ro1: now type:       /msg nickserv identify password
[10:06] <rem__> thx xaide the t slipped out .. :D
[10:06] <rem__> ah iok
[10:06] <rem__> ok
[10:06] <sheriff> mince : if its ok then you couldn't burn it
[10:06] <xaide> ha
[10:06] <^Ocean^> but joint #ubuntu-xgl for info on it
[10:06] <xaide> !iptables
[10:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) For more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[10:06] <meatface> can anyone in here help me with a sound issue?
[10:06] <bonkerz> so my WG111v2 wireless usb adapter regularly stops connecting, and is resolved by pulling the adapter out and putting it back in
[10:06] <rem__> k ty
[10:07] <DigitalNinja> Does anyone know of a company selling Linux workstations?
[10:07] <bonkerz> and i have edgy eft, it happened in dapper as well, any ideas on how to not make it regularly stop functioning?
[10:09] <kmaynard> DigitalNinja, fat or thin clients?
[10:09] <DigitalNinja> kmaynard: No! With say Ubuntu installed or one of the others. Gone desktope etc...
[10:10] <DigitalNinja> gnome
[10:10] <foo> Hm, I have a 5.1 sound system hooked up to my ubuntu box. I am using alsa. Whenever I crank my subwoofer and volume I can hear these little noises coming out of the speakers.. like the system is loading or something. It's kind of annoying. None of my levels are maxed out in alsamixer. My speakers are not broken, I unplugged system input and it worked fine. Any ideas?
[10:10] <foo> 13:13 <LimboBox> Hello! I am selling Sony Vaio AR190G Notebooks (Core Duo T2500 2 GHz /17" /2GB DDR2 /200 GB HDD @ 7200 rpm /256MB GDDR SDRam / 17" WUXGA TFT Active Matrix (1920 x 1200)/DVD+-RW- / Blu-Ray disc), brand new for 520 USD or 480 euros, if interested send me an e-mail or msg now inti3m@yahoo.com  Thank You
[10:11] <foo> !ops ^^^
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops ^^^ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <kmaynard> DigitalNinja, sun sells stuff, and also looky here: http://www.penguincomputing.com
[10:12] <profoX`> foo: you don't have the problem with other multimedia devices?
[10:13] <profoX`> try to connect the 5.1 set to something else if you got something else
[10:13] <profoX`> or if you dualboot another OS, see if the problem exists there too
[10:13] <profoX`> it might be something hardware related (which is what i think)
[10:13] <foo> profoX`: no
[10:13] <foo> I have no other os on here. hmm
[10:14] <chuckyp> Any ops here?
[10:14] <profoX`> I have alot of noise, strange sounds coming out of my loudspeakers if I connect my big amplifier to my laptop AND if I have the AC adapter connected.. must be AC leakage in my case :( without the power chord everything sounds fine
[10:14] <ericz> anybody have experience with ubuntu on a dell inspiron 6000 laptop?
[10:14] <anon32> is there an app that can mount Clone CD images?
[10:14] <DigitalNinja> kmaynard: Thanks
[10:14] <profoX`> chuckyp: why do you need one?
[10:14] <chuckyp> yeah
[10:15] <anon32> chuckyp, !ops
[10:15] <DigitalNinja> kmaynard: I just looked in my Linux mag and found www.shoprcubed.com
[10:15] <Baco914> Gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[10:15] <Baco914> Gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[10:15] <chuckyp> There is someone that is advertising in channel
[10:15] <Baco914> Gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[10:15] <Baco914> Gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[10:15] <LoRez> Warning: `Baco914' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[10:15] <Baco914> Gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[10:15] <Baco914> Gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[10:15] <profoX`> lol.. problems like that fix themselves =)
[10:15] <chuckyp> lol
[10:15] <chuckyp> Well still need an op though
[10:15] <chuckyp> !ops
[10:15] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:15] <profoX`> apparantly
[10:16] <Rez> chuckyp: for what?
[10:16] <profoX`> oh, DBO, you're an ubuntu irc op? didnt know ^_^
[10:16] <chuckyp> This guy that is spamming everyone that joins the channel about what he is selling
[10:16] <jewbilee> hey would anyone mind helping me with my ubuntu install?
[10:16] <unfo> jewbilee: just ask the question :)
[10:16] <jewbilee> haha
[10:16] <jewbilee> thanks
[10:17] <jewbilee> i downloaded what im assuming was the Live CD from the website
[10:17] <unfo> LimboBox: automatic spamming is not tolerated here.
[10:17] <jewbilee> and i put it in, and ran it
[10:17] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, you there?
[10:17] <profoX`> jewbilee: desktop cd ?
[10:17] <jewbilee> yea
[10:17] <jewbilee> i guess thats it
[10:17] <profoX`> jewbilee: yea thats a live cd + installer
[10:17] <jewbilee> ok
[10:17] <profoX`> you can use it as a live cd and install it IF you want from the cd
[10:17] <jewbilee> so to install i just run the desktop icon for isntall?
[10:17] <jewbilee> ok
[10:17] <profoX`> jewbilee: thats right
[10:17] <jewbilee> cool
[10:17] <unfo> LimboBox: if you do not disable the spamming, you will be kicked and/or banned from the channel and you may not be allowed back on freenode for a long time.
[10:17] <jewbilee> one more questions
[10:17] <jewbilee> questin*
[10:18] <sureshot> hey all i just jumped out and back in limboBox is doint just that as you come in you get that advertisment
[10:18] <jewbilee> damnit
[10:18] <jewbilee> lol
[10:18] <chuckyp> unfo, ty
[10:18] <profoX`> jewbilee: if your pc has more than 256 MB ram that should work.. otherwise (less ram) use the Alternate CD instead :) (text installer mode)
[10:18] <unfo> chuckyp: what did I do? :)
[10:18] <chuckyp> Need an op to get rid of LimboBox
[10:18] <foo> chuckyp: heh, he got me too. I tried !ops.
[10:18] <unfo> hes gone
[10:18] <chuckyp> ty
[10:18] <foo> chuckyp: Talk about a poorly moderated channel.
[10:18] <jewbilee> when I first tried Mandriva, GRUB would complain about dual booting when I didnt have my external HDD that Mandriva was installed on connected
[10:18] <adamhorden> i just updated to edgy but what Linux-image do I get for a Pentium 4 3.2 gig machine? I would usually look for a i386 one but I don't see one at packages.ubuntu.org?
[10:18] <mince> sheriff: I have md5 of that iso, where can I see the original one?
[10:18] <jewbilee> how can i avoid that with Ubuntu
[10:18] <foo> I would expect more.
[10:19] <jorgp> adamhorden, its generic now
[10:19] <codeprophet> Hmm, ubuntu on a PPC is really a challenge.. especially when switching to edgy
[10:19] <profoX`> in normal times there are more moderators available.. but it seems like no one is paying attention right now ._. just ignore the spammer for now.. he'll get his ban, don't worry
[10:19] <unfo> foo: chuckyp: the channel tends to be very busy. busier channels are harder to moderate.
[10:19] <unfo> profoX`: hes gone.
[10:19] <jewbilee> profoX
[10:19] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| yeah. I guess my best bet for ppc would be gentoo, tho it's tedious to install
[10:20] <jewbilee> can you help me with my above dual booting problem
[10:20] <foo> unfo: Definitely. But I know debian has an !ops that says all the ops names in the channel ... and that's nice for something like this.
[10:20] <profoX`> jewbilee: euh.. i don't understand your question well
[10:20] <codeprophet> johnnybuoy: Ack, ubuntu on a 800mhz g3? No thank you. :)
[10:20] <jewbilee> I have windows installed on my laptops main HDD
[10:20] <unfo> jewbilee: please do not ask profox only for help. please ask everyone.
[10:20] <jewbilee> i want to install Ubuntu on my USB external HDD
[10:20] <jewbilee> sorry
[10:20] <unfo> jewbilee: oops i was wrong
[10:21] <POVaddct> "damals, als erasco von rotterdam das dosenfutter erfand..."
[10:21] <sheriff> mince : put the md5 file in the same directory of that iso file and then download an md5 checker
[10:21] <chuckyp> jewbilee, You want grub to not complain about it when its unplugged?
[10:21] <jewbilee> last time I tried to install Mandriva on my external with windows on my internal GRUb would complain when the external wasnt connected
[10:21] <jewbilee> yea
[10:21] <jewbilee> it wouldnt boot
[10:21] <POVaddct> oops, sorry, wrong channel :)
[10:21] <unfo> jewbilee: i thought you just picked profox at random. now i realize he answered you first. :)
[10:21] <jewbilee> hahah
[10:21] <chuckyp> Yeah I don't know how you'd get around that.
[10:21] <profoX`> jewbilee: ah i see..
[10:21] <chuckyp> maybe with a map in there or something.
[10:21] <jewbilee> i was told to install ubuntu onto the external
[10:21] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| haha! 333MHz ppc, thank you, 2,5 weeks gentoo install.
[10:21] <jewbilee> and put the /boot on my main hardrive
[10:21] <unfo> !ping
[10:21] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[10:21] <sheriff> mince : download this , http://www.md5summer.org/
[10:22] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| it WAS a *lot* faster than dapper tho
[10:22] <profoX`> jewbilee: i have no experience with external hd's really.. does it spit out a specific error?
[10:22] <chuckyp> lol
[10:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Serpentine Rocks!
[10:22] <jewbilee> not that i remember
[10:22] <jewbilee> this was a while ago
[10:22] <mince> sheriff: the iso is 326356256AFB90BBF9850E08FB4D6C88
[10:22] <jewbilee> im just trying to avoid it
[10:22] <profoX`> jewbilee: i only know about internal hd's.. chuckyp: i don't think that would work (mapping) because when the external drive is not connected, it just can't be found
[10:23] <aladds> i just installed ubuntu 6.06 from a pressed ubuntu cd, but when i turn on my pc, grup comes up saying loading stage 1.5 for about a tenth of a second then the computer resets, what's wrong?
[10:23] <codeprophet> johnnybuoy: Haha, really? Ouchie.. well, it might just be worth I try a suppose. The issue of binary packages especially for ppc is kinda eliminated anyway, using gentoo.
[10:23] <jorgp> chuckyp, there is a flash 9 beta for linux?
[10:23] <aladds> *grub
[10:23] <profoX`> jorgp: not public..
[10:23] <profoX`> jorgp: not yet
[10:23] <Rez> chuckyp: he's dead.  should msg a network staffer for those on-joins :)
[10:23] <jorgp> figures
[10:23] <Paddy_EIRE> what would be the simplist to use and most addonable ID3 tagger out there
[10:23] <sheriff> sheriff : no check the file with md5 summer application and it will say if that file is ok
[10:23] <jewbilee> so does anyone have any advice for me?
[10:24] <unfo> chuckyp: are you having problems with flash 7?
[10:24] <profoX`> unfo: who isn't having problems with that one ?
[10:24] <profoX`> thats a better question
[10:24] <profoX`> :)
[10:24] <chuckyp> jewbilee, yeah to try it and see what specific error you are getting then deal with it when it comes.
[10:24] <jewbilee> hahah'
[10:24] <jewbilee> alright
[10:24] <profoX`> lol.. indeed
[10:24] <jewbilee> ill be back if i get an error
[10:24] <jewbilee> thanks a lot guys!
[10:24] <profoX`> jewbilee: come back when it works too :)
[10:24] <fergal32> hi
[10:24] <unfo> chuckyp: you could email the bot admins and request !ops if you want. the bot help page is http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:24] <jewbilee> of course
[10:24] <jewbilee> haha
[10:24] <profoX`> so we don't have to worry
[10:24] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| yeah. I tell ya. one menu was taking more than half a minute to open on dapper. on gentoo it was instantaneous
[10:24] <profoX`> ;P
[10:24] <unfo> profoX`: which problems?
[10:25] <profoX`> unfo: audio/video sync, instability, performance issues
[10:25] <unfo> oh :(
[10:25] <profoX`> flash 7 generally s*cks on linux..
[10:25] <unfo> for video, i heard that its supposed to be possible to play flash video in VLC instead of flash.
[10:25] <profoX`> but flash 9 beta is supposed to be way better
[10:25] <unfo> profoX`: says who? :P
[10:25] <profoX`> audio/video sync is fixed, and performance has been improved, at the least
[10:26] <profoX`> says adobe ;P who bought flash from macromedia
[10:26] <adamhorden> I am on edgy and uname states that I am running 2.6.17-10-386 how do I change this to 686?
[10:26] <codeprophet> johnnybuoy: Mmkay, I will give it a try! Thanks! :)
[10:26] <unfo> adamhorden: it is too much work to change. dont bother.
[10:26] <aladds> anyone know what's wrong with grub?
[10:26] <profoX`> unfo: beta is already there, but not publicly available yet, because it's still a bit too buggy
[10:26] <profoX`> it will be released in the next week or 2 weeks they say
[10:26] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| why? what is your issue?
[10:26] <profoX`> adamhorden: install linux-686
[10:26] <mikm[laptop] > adamhorden afaik, you will want to install the linux-generic kernel
[10:27] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| it is a bit more complicated than ubuntu to install, tho
[10:27] <unfo> adamhorden: "386" really means "386 compatible". any kernel is fine.
[10:27] <Paddy_EIRE> !backup
[10:27] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[10:27] <codeprophet> johnnybuoy: I know that, I've used gentoo alot before, on i386's.
[10:27] <johnnybuoy> ah
[10:27] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| ^
[10:27] <codeprophet> johnnybuoy: I don't like the lack of binary packages for ppc, that's all
[10:27] <codeprophet> And it's quite slow, aswell.
[10:28] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| yes, well, it's almost the same on gentoo, would guess...
[10:28] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| that for one is gone in gentoo, the lack of packages...well....eg. no flash, no win32codecs...otherwise it's very well supported in gentoo
[10:28] <alex__> I'm having a problem running frost wire, http://pastebin.ca/207135
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> what backup method should allow me to copy all my configuration settings for apps installed with apt-get and keep all the dvd, mp3, flash and java support
[10:29] <adamhorden> cheers profoX
[10:29] <sergiu> sal
[10:29] <codeprophet> johnnybuoy: Well those packages aren't due to lack of binary, it's because of proprietary bullshit.. completely different issue. :-)
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> right down to the icons on my desktop
[10:29] <sergiu> e cine va din vienna pe aici?
[10:29] <hikenboot> hello all--I have tried with no luck to get the nvidia drivers working on this box. The closest I have come is being able as root to launch xwindows but on boot xserver fails...any ideas?
[10:29] <djmccormick> i'm trying to install ubuntu on this box that has four ~85 gig drives, and have used the nvidia raid utility to stripe them. should these show up in the installer as one drive? otherwise, how do i handle this?
[10:29] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| yeah
[10:30] <johnnybuoy> codeprophet| very true
[10:30] <arschmann> hallo
[10:30] <arschmann> ich bins, der arschmann!
[10:30] <profoX`> adamhorden: that worked? great.. actually i thought edgy already had 686 by default..
[10:30] <sergiu> is soem body talking german ?
[10:30] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[10:30] <profoX`> !de
[10:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:30] <hikenboot> djmccormick, they will show up as one drive the raid controller is controlling it nothing else
[10:31] <djmccormick> hikenboot: i can see the drives individually, though. any clues on what i might've done wrong?
[10:31] <sergiu> is some one talking romain
[10:31] <sergiu> exit
[10:31] <djmccormick> the raid array shows before booting and all seems well.
[10:31] <hikenboot> my guess and its just a guess ..you dont have the right driver installed
[10:32] <djmccormick> installed? i'm just in the installer utility for ubuntu.
[10:32] <XiXaQ> I'm trying to install Sun Java, but I'm told the package doesn't exist in any repositories. What's the name of that site where you can fix the sources.list?
[10:32] <hikenboot> thats strange..not sure then
[10:33] <jewbilee> and aim back
[10:33] <cherubiel> !ro
[10:33] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.
[10:33] <jewbilee> with another question
[10:33] <jewbilee> Im not quite sure what to about the partitions
[10:33] <jewbilee> this is all very new to me
[10:33] <cherubiel> !ro
[10:33] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.
[10:34] <cherubiel> sergiu: ^^
[10:34] <Paddy_EIRE> XiXaQ: try my sources list if you are using dapper http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27128/
[10:34] <jewbilee> can i get some help with the partitioning part of the install?
[10:34] <XiXaQ> Paddy_EIRE, what does it contain?
[10:35] <jewbilee> hello?
[10:35] <profoX`> jewbilee: hello..
[10:35] <xaide> guided by the pinball map!
[10:35] <profoX`> jewbilee: sooo
[10:35] <profoX`> jewbilee: :)
[10:35] <Paddy_EIRE> XiXaQ: a full working repos multiverse universe cmmercial all the usual + the beerorkid repo for the most recent version of xgl/compiz (optional)
[10:35] <jewbilee> heheh
[10:36] <profoX`> jewbilee: what do you want to do
[10:36] <xaide> !in flames
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in flames - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <jewbilee> partition my external
[10:36] <xaide> :D
[10:36] <jewbilee> i have no idea what to do >.<
[10:36] <profoX`> jewbilee: do you see your external partition in the installer ?
[10:36] <jewbilee> yea
[10:36] <xaide> !ubuntu
[10:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:36] <jewbilee> i see my main HDD and external
[10:36] <profoX`> jewbilee: select it as the disk to install on..
[10:36] <xaide> !spam
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <Paddy_EIRE> XiXaQ: just look at the link and you'll see
[10:36] <jewbilee> i did
[10:36] <jewbilee> but i need to partition it
[10:36] <jewbilee> dont it?
[10:36] <profoX`> jewbilee: you can also choose automatic partitioning..
[10:37] <jewbilee> well..
[10:37] <jewbilee> its a 120 GB external
[10:37] <jewbilee> will it overwrite everythin on there?
[10:37] <profoX`> jewbilee: yes, unless you don't want it to.. but then you're better off with manual partitioning of course :)
[10:37] <jewbilee> yea
[10:37] <jewbilee> thats why i need to manual
[10:37] <AWOSDev> I have two user accounts on my computer.  One is UID 1000 and the other is 1004.  1000 can play audio and read/write the various /dev/sound files (e.g. mixer, dsp), but 1004 can't.  Both are members of the audio group (which owns the sound-related /dev/ files).  What could the problem be?
[10:37] <jewbilee> im just unsure of what to do with manual
[10:37] <profoX`> jewbilee: okay.. so.. manual partitioning....
[10:38] <jewbilee> wanna do this in a PM?
[10:38] <profoX`> eh fine
[10:38] <Paddy_EIRE> XiXaQ: you will need to go here if you want to use the beerorkid repo to get the gpg key http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[10:38] <profoX`> XiXaQ: also check #beryl and #ubuntu-xgl (or was that xgl-ubuntu)
[10:39] <AWOSDev> profoX` -- no it's #ubuntu-xgl alright.
[10:40] <XiXaQ> I only want "full" ubuntu repositories.
[10:40] <aldur> !dualhead
[10:40] <ubuntu_> hi all
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualhead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <seeker2599> i installed flash 7 yesterday and it will play the videos but not any of the audio
[10:41] <AWOSDev> Does anybody know about how I would fix the permissions?
[10:41] <AWOSDev> seeker2599, that is a known problem.  The fix is in the Wiki.
[10:41] <AWOSDev> !flash
[10:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:41] <djmccormick> !love
[10:41] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[10:41] <seeker2599> ty AWOSDev
[10:41] <coolX> #chaostreffpunkt
[10:41] <coolX> #chaostreffpunkt
[10:41] <coolX> #chaostreffpunkt
[10:41] <coolX> #chaostreffpunkt
[10:41] <coolX> #chaostreffpunkt
[10:41] <LoRez> Warning: `coolX' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[10:41] <coolX> #chaostreffpunkt
[10:41] <profoX`> seeker2599: known problem.
[10:41] <AWOSDev> seeker2599, np :)
[10:42] <AWOSDev> Is LoRez a bot?
[10:42] <Rez> AWOSDev: nope.
[10:42] <profoX`> seeker2599: try installing alsa-oss package and use aoss as DSP_DEVICE in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc that might help
[10:42] <Paddy_EIRE> is there any fancy visualisations like the ones in winamp/mediaplayer for any of the linux media players, its just the quality of "goom" aint that great
[10:42] <aldur> !dualhead
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualhead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <aldur> !dual-head
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual-head - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <aldur> !crt
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <seeker2599> which link should i click?
[10:43] <aldur> !video
[10:43] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:43] <sureshot> !xineoroma
[10:43] <AWOSDev> seeker2599, the RestrictedFormats linky.
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xineoroma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <seeker2599> ty again AWOSDev
[10:43] <LjL> !xinerama > sureshot
[10:44] <AWOSDev> seeker2599 np again :)
[10:44] <AWOSDev> I'm so confused, the bot now knows about !love but they didn't accept my !opinion bot reply?
[10:44] <sureshot> LjL someone was trying dual head , crt and such was trying to help but my spelling stinks. thanks
[10:45] <Paddy_EIRE> !cake
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <jbinder> !schedule
[10:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:46] <jbinder> admin_: hi
[10:46] <admin_> hi
[10:46] <jbinder> !schedule
[10:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:46] <Paddy_EIRE> did Xgl/Compiz or AIglx miss the release dead line for Edgy?
[10:46] <admin_> what you want jbinder
[10:46] <alex__> how do i find out where java is installed
[10:46] <jbinder> admin_: !schedule
[10:46] <admin_> jbinder: ...no crap..
[10:46] <seeker2599> is there a hotkey to open terminal
[10:46] <jbinder> admin_: eh?
[10:46] <admin_> thier scredule been up for uber long jbinder
[10:46] <jbinder> i know
[10:46] <admin_> go back to lilug
[10:46] <AWOSDev> seeker2599, Uh, ALT+F2 and type "gnome-terminal"?
[10:46] <Allz-i-> whois virus
[10:46] <jmedina> hi there
[10:47] <jmedina> I want to totally disable the sound in my ubuntu server
[10:47] <epimer> hi guys
[10:47] <epimer> i did a stupid thing.
[10:47] <jmedina> I uninstalled alsa-base, alsa-utils
[10:47] <admin_> what?
[10:47] <jmedina> and I disabled the sound card in the bios
[10:47] <AWOSDev> jmedina, well the hacky way would be to delete /dev/mixer or something.
[10:47] <seeker2599> i hate the mouse on this laptop
[10:47] <Zerb_Riss> hmm why would going to my site by IP work but going by it's URL not work?
[10:47] <epimer> how do i get GNOME to stop handling the keyboard layout and let X do it?
[10:47] <nolimitsoya> epimer, what did you do?
[10:47] <jmedina> buth the system sitll loads some sound modules
[10:47] <AWOSDev> seeker2599, You can probably hook up an external mouse if you want.
[10:47] <AWOSDev> Zerb_Riss, that's a DNS problem.
[10:47] <epimer> (it gave me the option and i clicked GNOME by mistake - that was the second stupid mistake)
[10:47] <pak-x> hi
[10:47] <seeker2599> yeah but that means i would have to get buy one lol
[10:47] <jmedina> AWOSDev: thats all?
[10:48] <AWOSDev> !tell Zerb_Riss about bind
[10:48] <epimer> first mistake was screwing up my xorg.conf by screwing up the nvidia beta driver installation
[10:48] <AWOSDev> jmedina, I would prolly say /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp.
[10:48] <AWOSDev> jmedina, you will *never* hear sound again :P  (well at least not without reinstalling ALSA)
[10:48] <epimer> all installed and working now (touch wood) but my keyboard is stuck as generic US (it's UK). this irks me.
[10:48] <jmedina> AWOSDev: I dont have thos files
[10:48] <Zerb_Riss> AWOSDev: where would the DNS problem be, though? I pinged the site on my off-site machine and it gets back the right IP address but the browser will not bring it up
[10:48] <jmedina> AWOSDev: I dont want sond
[10:48] <jmedina> sound
[10:49] <jmedina> it is a server
[10:49] <epimer> i searched the forums and there are a few similar threads, but no solution :-/
[10:49] <l0st1> anyone here got an xbox 360 controller working in Dapper?
[10:49] <epimer> any ideas would be appreciated
[10:49] <epimer> is there a gconf key that needs fiddled?
[10:49] <lacin> hi, #ubuntu; Any body knows how can I play VCD in Ubuntu (with Totem)?
[10:49] <pak-x> i have got my second monitor to work, but he shows the same as one my laptopscreen and also it seems, that he dont has right frequency, because the monitor is "noise". also, when i put the second monitor into my laptop, my system gets incredible slow ;-(
[10:50] <AWOSDev> Zerb_Riss, if you can ping it with the domain name but not bring up the Web site I suggest talking to #apache as it would be their problem.  You may not have the HostName set up correctly.
[10:50] <Zerb_Riss> ah okay good idea, thanks
[10:51] <Allz-i-> is there a icelandic keyboard layout :( ,i cant find it . i have tryied to setup my xorg.conf but nothing works
[10:51] <AWOSDev> jmedina, right, if you dont have those /dev/ files then you can't play sound...I don't think...
[10:51] <jbinder> jmedina: what is the problem?
[10:51] <jmedina> jbinder: I dont want the snd_ modules loaded
[10:51] <AWOSDev> lacin, not with Totem, but I know that MPlayer, xine, and VLC (my fav is VLC) all player.
[10:51] <jmedina> I know I can blacklist them
[10:52] <jmedina> but I want to know how are loaded
[10:52] <AWOSDev> Okay does anybody know about permissions?
[10:52] <jbinder> me
[10:52] <admin_> jbinder: mplayer blows..
[10:52] <jbinder> admin_: LIES
[10:52] <admin_> AWOSDev: yes..what do you need to know?
[10:52] <jbinder> admin_: whats the problem?
[10:52] <AWOSDev> Well see ^^ for my question or I'll ask it again.
[10:52] <jbinder> ask it again?
[10:52] <jbinder> we just got here
[10:52] <lacin> AWOSDev, I hate Mplayer and VLC but about Xine I install libxine, xine-gui and then Gxine it plays VCD but with no sound!
[10:52] <AWOSDev> And now it says "you are not a member of the sudoers file.  this will be reported."  well I'm the admin so I don't really so who you're gonna report it to.
[10:53] <admin_> rwxrwxrwx is full permissions..
[10:53] <AWOSDev> lacin, hmm....
[10:53] <AWOSDev> I have two user accounts on my computer.  One is UID 1000 and the other is 1004.  1000 can play audio and read/write the various /dev/sound files (e.g. mixer, dsp), but 1004 can't.  Both are members of the audio group (which owns the sound-related /dev/ files).  What could the problem be?
[10:53] <jbinder> AWOSDev: thats easy to fix
[10:53] <jbinder> AWOSDev: as root, type
[10:53] <jbinder> sudo visudo
[10:53] <AWOSDev> jbinder, that's new question.
[10:53] <jbinder> visudo*
[10:53] <AWOSDev> As root huh?
[10:53] <jbinder> yeah
[10:53] <AWOSDev> well how do I *get* to be root if I can't sudo!?
[10:53] <AWOSDev> ahhhh
[10:53] <admin_> AWOSDev: ah..
[10:53] <jbinder> do you know the root pw?
[10:53] <Chm0d> when is the final release of edgy coming out?
[10:53] <granbar> I'm still having a problem connecting to the wireless lan with my CNet CWP-854, using rt62pci drivers. I can scan and find the network ( using wlassistant ), but not connect. Does anybody know why?
[10:53] <shira> hi, does anyone know if FF RC 3 works w/ wine?
[10:53] <jbinder> AWOSDev: type su
[10:54] <AWOSDev> jbinder, I don't have a root password.
[10:54] <admin_> AWOSDev: is there a root pswd for the machine? or was it never set up?
[10:54] <dudanogueira> does anyone can provide the information if a wireless card a/g will be compatible with the B standart?
[10:54] <jbinder> ..
[10:54] <admin_> jbinder: ubuntu systems dont set root pswd
[10:54] <AWOSDev> jbinder, admin_, no there is no root password.
[10:54] <jbinder> AWOSDev: this doesn't make any sense
[10:54] <jbinder> how many accounts are on the computer?
[10:54] <AWOSDev> But thank goodness I left a root terminal up.
[10:54] <AWOSDev> jbinder, 6 user account.
[10:54] <AWOSDev> s
[10:54] <jbinder> which of them have sudo?
[10:54] <Allz-i-> is there a icelandic keyboard layout :( ,i cant find it . i have tryied to setup my xorg.conf but nothing works
[10:54] <AWOSDev> Ooooh that's the problem.
[10:55] <AWOSDev> I removed myself from admin group accidentally.
[10:55] <AWOSDev> :P
[10:55] <admin_> heh
[10:55] <jbinder> lol
[10:55] <jenda> Allz-i-: if nothing works, I can help you set up your own keyboard layout.
[10:55] <Allz-i-> great
[10:55] <Allz-i-> how?
[10:55] <admin_> AWOSDev: do you need to make a root account?
[10:55] <AWOSDev> Ahhh the admin group doesn't even exist!
[10:55] <grahamldlw> hey can anyone help me? i have a small probably easily solveable problem???
[10:55] <jbinder> ...
[10:56] <LjL> Allz-i-:  use a sweish lyou, which should work well enough, but there should be an icelandic layout in your preferences ;) no need to touch xorg.conf i believe
[10:56] <jbinder> AWOSDev: PM
[10:56] <AWOSDev> oh there it is.
[10:56] <jbinder> k
[10:56] <admin_> grahamldlw: sure, hit it
[10:56] <AWOSDev> No I found it it's 111
[10:56] <Allz-i-> ok
[10:56] <admin_> AWOSDev: 111..permissions?
[10:56] <Allz-i-> ljl wow
[10:56] <jenda> Allz-i-: it's not a 5 minute job, so you might want to look around a bit first... in the meantime, could you give me an idea of what the icelandic kb looks like? (a picture would be best)
[10:56] <AWOSDev> No admin:111:
[10:56] <Allz-i-> man plzzzz help me :(
[10:56] <grahamldlw> i have a pascal file on my pc on my desktop that i want to like check or compile or whatever the technical word is for it, i bascically want to be able to go thru it
[10:56] <jbinder> AWOSDev: uh.. what?
[10:56] <AWOSDev> Okay now I can sudo again.
[10:56] <jbinder> k
[10:56] <AWOSDev> Now we can fix the other problem.
[10:56] <grahamldlw> oh and what does GNU and KDE mean?@
[10:56] <jbinder> AWOSDev: which is...
[10:56] <AWOSDev> 111 is the GID.
[10:57] <AWOSDev> I have two user accounts on my computer.  One is UID 1000 and the other is 1004.  1000 can play audio and read/write the various /dev/sound files (e.g. mixer, dsp), but 1004 can't.  Both are members of the audio group (which owns the sound-related /dev/ files).  What could the problem be?
[10:57] <admin_> grahamldlw: KDE- K Desktop Enviroment
[10:57] <grahamldlw> and what does that mean exactly?
[10:57] <pak-x> I have a problem with my xorg.conf! I got my second monitor to work, but he shows the same as the other. also he is noisy(wrong frequency) and when i put it in, my system gets also incredible slow ;-( what can i do?
[10:57] <grahamldlw> im new to this? so just gettin a hang of it
[10:57] <admin_> grahamldlw: KDE is a desktop environment, such comparable to GNOME and XFCE to name a couple
[10:57] <admin_> !kde
[10:57] <LjL> Allz-i-: well, right now i'm on Edgy and can't even check the keyboard layouts, because the Edgy config's broken. i'm trying to address that. anyway, looked under System / Preferences / Regional or whatever it's called? (KDE here)
[10:57] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:57] <admin_> !desktop enviroment
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop enviroment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <grahamldlw> so what is k ubuntu? what does it change?
[10:58] <LjL> grahamldlw: it's got KDE instead of Gnome.
[10:58] <AWOSDev> It's Ubuntu + KDE (hence the K)
[10:58] <admin_> grahamldlw: kubuntu uses the KDE desktop as defaul
[10:58] <admin_> y
[10:58] <Allz-i-> ljl i had icelandic keyboard :( and then i tryied some stupid stuff in xorg.conf and all got mixed up ,and now there is now going back
[10:58] <LjL> AWOSDev: well not really, it's Ubuntu + KDE - Gnome ;)
[10:58] <grahamldlw> i dont understand it, just alot of programs say KDE
[10:58] <admin_> ubuntu=gnome enviroment
[10:58] <AWOSDev> s/defaul\ny/default :P
[10:59] <grahamldlw> oh rite ok
[10:59] <grahamldlw> but anyway!
[10:59] <LjL> Allz-i-: then try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:59] <admin_> grahamldlw: anything else?
[10:59] <grahamldlw> how do i go thru my pascal code?
[10:59] <AWOSDev> LjL hehe
[10:59] <grahamldlw> i have a file on my desktop and downloaded a GNU compilte
[10:59] <AWOSDev> grahamldlw, try gedit?  vi?
[10:59] <admin_> grahamldlw: i'm not sure, do you want to view it?
[10:59] <AWOSDev> kate?
[10:59] <grahamldlw> compiler* now what?
[10:59] <Allz-i-> i have already tryied it
[10:59] <jungsonn> does anyone know how i configure Totem to use with aMSN ?
[10:59] <Allz-i-> ljl
[10:59] <grahamldlw> yes and be able to change it and make adjustments
[10:59] <blind> I have Flash 7 installed, and the popup boxes for Flash 9 come up *all the time.* It's so annoying. Is there any way around it?
[11:00] <admin_> grahamldlw: try opening it with kate?
[11:00] <grahamldlw> im a complete noobie with ubuntu or linux in general i was a sole windows user b4 so u have to be very simple with me i dont understand things lol
[11:00] <admin_> grahamldlw: ok, kate is a text editor, a pretty nice one
[11:00] <grahamldlw> btw i dont know what any programs or technical language or terms used are
[11:00] <admin_> comparable to M$ wordpad
[11:00] <grahamldlw> ok
[11:00] <admin_> cept wayy better
[11:00] <grahamldlw> how do i get it?
[11:00] <grahamldlw> type it in on apt-cache search etc?
[11:00] <admin_> yes
[11:00] <LjL> well Allz-i-, either the dpkg-reconfigure or the settings in the Preferences should work, i think... anyway, you'd probably better find someone who actually uses Gnome. I've used it, but I don't even have it installed right now, so I can't really guide you through
[11:01] <grahamldlw> btw the ONLY two thigns i can do on linux is apt cache search and apt get install etc, i dont rele know how to do anything else
[11:01] <Paddy_EIRE> which multitrack sound production suite would be closest to CuBase/CakeWalk on ubuntu and is it hard to setup
[11:01] <grahamldlw> one sec then
[11:01] <admin_> grahamldlw: no problem
[11:01] <raintheory> !restartx
[11:01] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:01] <AWOSDev> My sound permission thing is very annoying...can somebody please help me?
[11:01] <jbinder> uh
[11:01] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: check out jokosher
[11:01] <LjL> grahamldlw, yes, "apt-cache search pascal compiler" will tell you that gpc is the standard compiler
[11:01] <lupine_85> it's pretty cool
[11:02] <admin_> grahamldlw: if you would like basic things, and access to more programs (I 100% recomment it), download EasyUbuntu, its a program which helps you automatically set up Flash, java, extra fonts, extra repositories
[11:02] <jbinder> chmod 777 -R /dev
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> k, :)
[11:02] <jbinder> lol
[11:02] <danny_> anyone else got a work-around for grub error 17? happens every time i install unbuntu along side windows xp.
[11:02] <jbinder> i mean
[11:02] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[11:02] <jbinder> chmod -R 777 /dev
[11:02] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:02] <trappist> jbinder: what?!
[11:02] <jbinder> lol
[11:02] <grahamldlw> where do i get that from?
[11:02] <AWOSDev> jbinder -- uh...
[11:02] <fdoving> jbinder: not smart.
[11:02] <grahamldlw> admin?
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> lupine_85: is it avail through the repos
[11:02] <admin_> grahamldlw: h/o, let me find link
[11:02] <jbinder> trappist, AWOSDev, fdoving: i know, it was a joke
[11:03] <admin_> grahamldlw: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[11:03] <LjL> yeah, i just pasted that
[11:03] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[11:03] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:03] <AWOSDev> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-10-18 07:45 /dev/dsp
[11:03] <AWOSDev> ^^ my permissions
[11:03] <fdoving> jbinder: joking with commands that can make problems for people is not fun.
[11:03] <LjL> note the "Use at your own risk" and the discussion channel please
[11:03] <fdoving> AWOSDev: what's the permission problem?
[11:03] <lupine_85> !info jokosher dapper
[11:03] <ubotu> Package jokosher does not exist in dapper
[11:03] <lupine_85> !info jokosher edgy
[11:03] <ubotu> jokosher: simple and easy to use audio multi-tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 605 kB, installed size 1676 kB
[11:03] <lupine_85> yep - in edgy
[11:03] <AWOSDev> jbinder: Remember that person that really ran rm -rf / because someone on here told him to?
[11:03] <killown> error: tcl.h: No such file or directory   what I do?
[11:03] <lupine_85> ?!
[11:03] <lupine_85> oh dear...
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> lupine_85: would I be best to DL of the site and install myself
[11:04] <admin_> grahamldlw: need any hlep with something?
[11:04] <lupine_85> depends
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> ?
[11:04] <killown> anyone can help me
[11:04] <lupine_85> edgy is apparently release candidate now
[11:04] <LjL> !helpme
[11:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> really
[11:04] <admin_> edgy ...dont do it
[11:04] <AWOSDev> fdoving -- sh: /dev/dsp: Permission denied.
[11:04] <trappist> killown: sudo apt-get install tcl8.0-dev
[11:04] <killown> thanks
[11:04] <lupine_85> admin_: I did
[11:04] <lupine_85> still am
[11:04] <^Ocean^> are there any programs that will turn a .avi into a animated .gif ?
[11:05] <Paddy_EIRE> you guys are killing me here, is edgy ready/stable as stable as dapper yet
[11:05] <admin_> lupine_85: ah..i've had problems with some bugs in it..so i'm not putting it on my main box for a while
[11:05] <fdoving> AWOSDev: what are you trying to do?
[11:05] <AWOSDev> ^Ocean^ I remember maybe *one* on Windows...none on Linux as of yet.
[11:05] <admin_> Paddy_EIRE: Edgy will NEVER be that stabl;e
[11:05] <lupine_85> still no guarantees with it, of course, but "it works for me"
[11:05] <AWOSDev> fdoving, anything!   (to do with sound)
[11:05] <Parisi> Paddy_EIRE,  Of course not.
[11:05] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[11:05] <AWOSDev> admin_, really?  NEVER?  even in FinalRelease?
[11:05] <admin_> Paddy_EIRE: Dapper is most stable out for ubuntu series, and it will be for a while
[11:05] <Paddy_EIRE> I wont be goin for edgy until its atop of distrowatch
[11:05] <fdoving> AWOSDev: are you in the audio group? (check with 'id' from konsole)
[11:05] <lupine_85> I went for edgy just pre-knot-3
[11:05] <Bubbadood> nolimitsoya u around ?
[11:05] <LjL> admin_, wrong.
[11:05] <Chm0d> how do you uninstall the nvidia drivers?
[11:05] <admin_> AWOSDev: edgy is..really only if you want bleeding edge stuff
[11:05] <jmedina> :S
[11:06] <admin_> LjL: no
[11:06] <LjL> admin_, once more wrong.
[11:06] <jmedina> I still cant find a way to disable sound modules
[11:06] <Chm0d> apt-get --remove nvidia-glx?
[11:06] <^Ocean^> hmm, well is there a program i can use to dump the frams of an avi into a image format such as png or jpg or gif ?   That i could then convert to .gif and then turn into a animated gif hahaha
[11:06] <AWOSDev> uid=1004 gid=100(users) groups=100(users), 111(admin)
[11:06] <LjL> admin_: edgy is not particularly bleeding edge (though it was originally intended to be), and Dapper just benefits from so-called "Long Term Support", which has nothing to do with its stability.
[11:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !amour
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <LjL> !msg the bot
[11:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[11:07] <sandy16> hi there
[11:07] <raeb> use /msg LjL
[11:07] <fdoving> AWOSDev: add yourself to the audio group. 'sudo adduser username audio'
[11:07] <sandy16> can any body tell me package name for login in another window
[11:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !rosegarden4
[11:07] <lupine_85> edgy is a real distro :)
[11:07] <LjL> raeb, sorry?
[11:07] <ubotu> rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1.2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 6741 kB, installed size 18332 kB
[11:07] <trappist> sandy16: I don't understand your question
[11:08] <fdoving> AWOSDev: if you want usb-removable devices to work for this user, you must add him to the 'plugdev' group. for cdrom access you need to be in the 'cdrom' group etc.
[11:08] <Paddy_EIRE> !ardour
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <jbinder> AWOSDev: do you still have the same problem?
[11:08] <jbinder> with the permissions?
[11:08] <sandy16> trappist, there is something like gdmflexiserver --xnest how can i apt-get that?
[11:08] <admin_> !permissions
[11:08] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[11:09] <grahamldlw> i cant get any of it to work
[11:09] <trappist> sandy16: sounds like maybe you want xnest?
[11:09] <grahamldlw> the pascal compiler or that easy ubuntu thing
[11:10] <trappist> sandy16: apt-cache show xnest and read the description, and sudo apt-get install xnest to install it
[11:10] <LjL> grahamldlw: well, i can't (and won't) help you with easy ubuntu, but what's the problem with the pascal compiler?
[11:10] <AWOSDev> jbinder: with the /dev/ yes.
[11:10] <anon32> how do I get ms fonts?
[11:10] <AWOSDev> fdoving: okay here's what I got.
[11:10] <lupine_85> pascal++
[11:10] <lupine_85> !info fpc
[11:10] <grahamldlw> i dont know what i have to do
[11:10] <trappist> anon32: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[11:10] <grahamldlw> i've never used linux
[11:10] <ubotu> Package fpc does not exist in any distro I know
[11:10] <lupine_85> awwww
[11:10] <Shadow_mil> Umm... Help!    I did:      sudo chmod 750 /usr/bin/sudo
[11:10] <AWOSDev> fdoving: uid=1004 gid=100 groups=100(users),111(admin)
[11:10] <anon32> trappist, thanks
[11:10] <lupine_85> fpc is incredible
[11:10] <sandy16> trappist, thanx
[11:10] <grahamldlw> i dont know what i need to do, i ahve the file on my desktop but dont know how to get it into the terminal, or how to get it out after
[11:10] <jbinder> AWOSDev: ok
[11:10] <anon32> trappist, are they copyrighted or something? shouldn't they be default installed?
[11:11] <^Ocean^> what can i use to record a video with my webcam ?
[11:11] <jbinder> who do you want the owner to be
[11:11] <AWOSDev> fdoving: *BUT*:   The user is already a member of `audio'.
[11:11] <LjL> grahamldlw: when you say "file", you mean the Pascal source code?
[11:11] <Jowi> I have an urgent request. does anyone have a intel mac? I need an example of the partition layout (i toasted mine)
[11:11] <trappist> anon32: they are freedom-challenged, yes
[11:11] <grahamldlw> yes
[11:11] <AWOSDev> jbinder, I want everything to stay the same.  UID 1000 can use the sound well, so I know it's something dumb I've done :)
[11:11] <jbinder> do you want EVERYONE to have read access?
[11:11] <LjL> grahamldlw: just type "cd ~/Desktop" into your terminal. if you type "ls" then, the file will show up.
[11:11] <fdoving> AWOSDev: yes, you need to login to get user permissions, or use 'sg command' to run something as another group
[11:11] <LjL> !cli > grahamldlw
[11:11] <AWOSDev> fdoving: huh?
[11:11] <Sybux> HI, i'm trying to create a video from jpeg file taken from my webcam. I'm using mencoder but when I run it, it make a segmentation fault. I've try running it on windows and it's says juste before crashing : "picture size invalid" any1 know how I can correct this ?
[11:12] <sheriff>  i just downloaded java studio creator 2 update 1 and installed it so it was working very well but today its like running but there is nothing on the screen i mean there is an empty page so how can i fix it?
[11:12] <AWOSDev> fdoving: I cated /etc/group and my name is listed under audio.
[11:13] <fdoving> AWOSDev: how did you add your user? (i find it strange that you're in the users group, as ubuntu uses usergroups.)
[11:13] <AWOSDev> fdoving: I also tried to restart KMix but it still says I can't access /dev/mixer.
[11:13] <fdoving> AWOSDev: you need to logout, and re-login.
[11:13] <AWOSDev> fdoving, useradd?
[11:13] <pak-x> when I put my second monitor into my notebooks graphiccard, my cpu usage is 100 percent? why
[11:13] <AWOSDev> fdoving: /me comes from Red Hat and SuSE and always adds his users to the users group.
[11:13] <LjL> AWOSDev: use adduser... or the GUI system
[11:13] <fdoving> AWOSDev: that's not the proper way to do it. you should use 'adduser' to get it right.
[11:14] <fdoving> AWOSDev: but it's not too late :)
[11:14] <AWOSDev> So the useradd command, which is built in to the kernel, is wrong?
[11:14] <grahamldlw> dont worry i give up im going to bed for now
[11:14] <grahamldlw> cya
[11:14] <SeanTater> What did I do wrong? http://clancy.homelinux.com/smartslide-alpha1.py dvd-slideshow never gets the arguments correctly..
[11:14] <suyog> what is the correct option to use for /home partition? defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 ??
[11:14] <anon32> huh... and how can I play midi files (yea yea... kinda weird question)?
[11:14] <fdoving> AWOSDev: not wrong, adduser just makes everything alot easier for you.
[11:14] <LjL> AWOSDev: "built into the kernel"?
[11:14] <LjL> !midi > anon32
[11:14] <AWOSDev> anon32, yeah same problem here, I can't play MIDI files even as UID1000.
[11:14] <suyog> i mean, the same options as that for the root partition?
[11:15] <AWOSDev> LjL, well not build into "the kernel" persay, but it is part of coreutils.
[11:15] <sheriff> can anyone help me?
[11:15] <SeanTater> !helpme > sheriff
[11:15] <sheriff>  i just downloaded java studio creator 2 update 1 and installed it so it was working very well but today its like running but there is nothing on the screen i mean there is an empty page so how can i fix it?
[11:16] <pak-x> no one can help me right ?
[11:16] <anon32> wow... never thought fonts could be so massive
[11:17] <^Ocean^> Is there a program i can use to record a video with my webcam under linux ?
[11:17] <suyog> anyone, please? i need some help mounting my home folder onto a different partition.
[11:17] <Sybux> ^Ocean^ you can use a tools like camorama and the mencoder or ffmpeg to create the video file
[11:17] <AWOSDev> fdoving: relogin.  okay.
[11:17] <AWOSDev> fdoving: lemme try that.
[11:18] <^Ocean^> Sybux, camorama only seems to take images not viideo tho :S
[11:18] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood,
[11:18] <pak-x> -.-
[11:18] <Sybux> ^Ocean^ yep, then you create the video from the jpeg file
[11:18] <nolimitsoya> how did it go?
[11:18] <Bubbadood> just wanted to let you know full recovery and thanks
[11:18] <Falstius> suyog, you need to edit the /etc/fstab file and /etc/shadow ... you should probably look at the man pages for those files.
[11:18] <^Ocean^> lol but id have to sit there clicking the take image buttton 30times a second ahaha
[11:18] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, congratulations and np :)
[11:18] <Sybux> ^Ocean^ in theroy... I'm trying to do it but with no succes for the moment
[11:19] <suyog> Falstius, I see. and how about the default opetions in fstab? The same as root partition? defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 ?
[11:19] <Sybux> ^Ocean^ oh.. you need a real time video
[11:19] <Jowi> I have an urgent request. does anyone have a intel mac? I need an example of the partition layout. I wiped the drive to install ubuntu and the gpt partition went with it. now i can not install osx, and even when i install ubuntu it will fail to boot.
[11:19] <LjL> ^Ocean^, try dvr perhaps
[11:19] <suyog> ^Ocean^, how about using istanbul?
[11:19] <Sybux> ^Ocean^ perhaps you can do it directly with mencoder I've seen a lot of option in the man !
[11:20] <LjL> yes, a lot of transcoding programs can capture from a v4l device
[11:20] <LjL> anyway, dvr is specifically thought for that afaik
[11:20] <Bubbadood> tried installing Ubuntu afterwards .. got all kinds of out of memory errors while attempting to start setup.... right after loading the Kernel .. anyone see this before ?
[11:20] <Bubbadood> *afterwards = today haha
[11:21] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, same disk?
[11:21] <xroach> my ubuntu freezes when i call with skype or send files trouhgt samba. what might be wrong?
[11:21] <Bubbadood> np
[11:21] <Bubbadood> no
[11:21] <nolimitsoya> or same system that thrashed the disc?
[11:21] <Bubbadood> nope just a play system that I had fedora on
[11:21] <xroach> and its a total freezup nothing helps exept just boot.
[11:21] <mrmknet> How can i setup my VGA card?
[11:22] <nolimitsoya> does it flake out when booting the live cd, or when booting afterinstallation?
[11:22] <Bubbadood> it flakes out after I choose ... install ubuntu
[11:22] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, try the alternate install cd
[11:22] <Allz-i-> ljl how to check if i have downloaded my nvidia driver ?
[11:23] <Allz-i-> i mean what command
[11:23] <nolimitsoya> and, if you are trying dapper, try the edgy beta
[11:23] <Bubbadood> where is the alternate cd ?
[11:23] <LjL> Allz-i-: "apt-cache policy nvidia-glx"
[11:23] <nolimitsoya> on the download ftp
[11:23] <LjL> Allz-i-: the fact that you have it installed doesn't mean that you have it configured, though
[11:23] <Bubbadood> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[11:23] <Bubbadood> oops
[11:23] <rem64> hi all
[11:23] <fluvvell> im  coming across a files open limit which is paralysing evolution.  At one point I got ulimit -n to work but now it says   bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted
[11:23] <Bubbadood> ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[11:24] <bXi> yo
[11:24] <Bubbadood> that is what I grabbed and burned
[11:24] <bXi> is it possible to let ubuntu log in to a samba domein controller?
[11:24] <LjL> Bubbadood: that certainly looks like the alternate cd, yeah. the desktop one looks like it might be the desktop cd ;)
[11:24] <fluvvell> anyone know where to set ulimit permanently?
[11:24] <chuckyp> !samba > bXi
[11:24] <xroach> could anyone help?
[11:25] <SpaGed> hi
[11:25] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, try edgy
[11:25] <SpaGed> will someone please help me?
[11:25] <nolimitsoya> where do you live?
[11:25] <Allz-i-> !nvidia
[11:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:25] <nolimitsoya> Bubbadood, http://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu-cd/6.10/
[11:25] <chuckyp> Bubbadood, alternate cd is on the download page
[11:26] <nolimitsoya> thats edgy
[11:26] <SpaGed> im new to ubuntu, and last night i DLd the ISO and burned it with roxio as an ISO file, when i reboot, it does not boot ubuntu
[11:26] <chuckyp> nolimitsoya, is he looking for edgy or just the alternate?
[11:26] <SpaGed> it goes back to windows
[11:26] <nolimitsoya> alternate edgy :)
[11:26] <chuckyp> ahh
[11:26] <SpaGed> has anyone here had that problem?
[11:26] <fluvvell> SpaGed, does your computer boot cdroms ok?
[11:26] <SpaGed> yes
[11:27] <chuckyp> Bubbadood, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[11:27] <SpaGed> i have a CD i have booted before
[11:27] <SpaGed> Linux storm 2000 boots fine
[11:27] <absenth> !mp3
[11:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:27] <df> Winamp not Running
[11:27] <fluvvell> SpaGed, perhaps roxio was not expecting an image and you've burned it as a file
[11:27] <absenth> exit
[11:27] <absenth> bah
[11:28] <fluvvell> SpaGed, does anything happen when you insert the disk in windows?
[11:28] <SpaGed> but it's recognized as an ISO
[11:30] <godzig> i'm trying to compile inkscape-0.44.1 and ./configure gets hung up on "libpng >= 1.2"; I definitely have libpng12 installed, i even tried reinstalling, and updating but I can't get ./configure to realize I have an appropriate libpng version.  Is there something else I can do?
[11:30] <SpaGed> it come's up in a window showing it as a ISO
[11:31] <fluvvell> SpaGed, it should run the auto file and give you an Ubuntu Welcome, with test versions of firefox, thunderbird and the gimp
[11:31] <segfault_> fluvvell, /etc/security/limits.conf
[11:31] <fluvvell> thx segfault_
[11:31] <SpaGed> even in windows?
[11:31] <segfault_> np
[11:32] <cherubiel> 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01), is the driver included in ubuntu by default?
[11:33] <cherubiel> i don't get the same audio levels as i get in other os-es
[11:33] <SpaGed> brb
[11:33] <segfault_> cherubiel, yes included by default
[11:34] <Shadow_mil> sudo: must be setuid root
[11:34] <xst> How can I fix this: When I press "send webcam" in the chat window in kopete 0.12.3, nothing happens. Nothing at all. But in "Configure -> Devices" the webcam functions quite well. What should I do?
[11:34] <cherubiel> segfault_: somehow, i can't get the full volume, like what i get in windoze..
[11:34] <Shadow_mil> cherubiel: try alsamixer
[11:34] <fluvvell> segfault_, how to adopt the new limit ? (surely not a reboot)
[11:34] <segfault_> cherubiel, chk alsamixer
[11:35] <Shadow_mil> fluvvell: new limits only go to the user when they login, if you logout then back in, it should work
[11:36] <SpaGed> It show's up as an ISO file, and ask me to open with...
[11:36] <SpaGed> Does that mean that i burned it wrong?
[11:36] <Shadow_mil> Umm... grrr.  Why am I getting this message: sudo: must be setuid root
[11:37] <segfault_> fluvvell, Shadow_mil i agree with Shadow_mil but i cant find anything to confirm that is true
[11:38] <segfault_> Shadow_mil, may be ur sudo isnt installled setuid as root
[11:38] <segfault_> Shadow_mil, try sngle user mode to unustall and reinstall it
[11:38] <cherubiel> Shadow_mil: do chmod 4111 /usr/bin/sudo as root
[11:38] <fluvvell> Shadow_mil, segfault_, doesn't seem to affect a new bash login on tty3
[11:39] <Shadow_mil> It worked before, then I changed the permissions on sudo to this:    -rwxr-x--- 1 root admin 93844 2006-05-17 04:41 /usr/bin/sudo
[11:39] <AWOSDev> fdoving, it worked!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!  I finally heard the KDE startup sound!
[11:39] <fdoving> AWOSDev :)
[11:40] <fluvvell> SpaGed, yes
[11:40] <segfault_> fluvvell, make sure ur user isnt logged in anywhere else (i.e. tty1 or 2 etc) and try again, also check ur syntax of the file and make sure ur setting the limits u think u are
[11:40] <AWOSDev> Now I get to use amaroK for the first time on this computer :)
[11:40] <SpaGed> brb, burning new CD.
[11:40] <AWOSDev> well I best go do that, bye!
[11:40] <segfault_> Shadow_mil, thats why, dont change the perms
[11:40] <SpaGed> ty, fluvvell
[11:40] <AWOSDev> again, THANK YOU fdoving!
[11:40] <fdoving> AWOSDev: you're welcome :)
[11:40] <AWOSDev> :)
[11:41] <Shadow_mil> segfault_: I only want root + people in admin group to run sudo and su
[11:41] <morla> hi alltogether. I'm desperate :)  I need a certain application for school that simply will not compile, I believe it could be because missing dev files, but how do I find out which ones I need??
[11:41] <LjL> morla: you could use apt-file for that
[11:41] <LjL> !apt-file > morla
[11:41] <LjL> morla: anyway, what application is that?
[11:42] <segfault_> Shadow_mil, sudoers file handles this, use visudo to edit
[11:42] <morla> LjL: ocs/opal
[11:42] <segfault_> Shadow_mil, also iirc ubuntu comes default that way
[11:42] <anon32> ms fonts installed.... yay?
[11:42] <morla> LjL: it's not in the repositories. will apt-file still work?
[11:42] <Shadow_mil> segfault_: well people can still su/sudo to my account then gain root access
[11:42] <Riot777> anybody tried here vmware player with windows as guest os?
[11:43] <segfault_> Shadow_mil, sudoers file handles this, use visudo to edit
[11:43] <LjL> morla: yes, apt-file is intended to tell you which package contains a file. so, if you don't know which -dev package you need to compile, apt-file might help.
[11:43] <LjL> morla: if you're really desperate, there's also auto-apt
[11:44] <morla> LjL: aha I see. I tell apt-file a .so and it tells me the package?
[11:44] <anon32> Shadow_mil, 4111?
[11:44] <LjL> morla: yes. or a .h, more likely
 Shadow_mil: do chmod 4111 /usr/bin/sudo as root
[11:44] <LjL> morla: of course the basic requirement is that you *know* what the file you need is... hopefully configure, or make, are telling you that
[11:45] <^Ocean^> Are there any webcam video recording applications for linux ?
[11:45] <cherubiel> Shadow_mil: that sets the suid bit
[11:45] <LjL> morla: if they aren't, you might go for auto-apt, but be careful, because it'll try to install packages that you don't really need
[11:45] <morla> LjL: unfortunately not.. it complaines about missing files in /tmp
[11:46] <Shadow_mil> cool people type: /exec -o ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[11:46] <JamieBE> I really need some help with Samba, and the last 3 times I have been in here to ask I have been ignored or no one has been able to help. Can anyone help me with Samba
[11:46] <LjL> morla: that sounds more like a broken configure than anything else...   but, can you paste the error on the pastebin?
[11:46] <morla> LjL: I'll google a bit for auto-apt
[11:46] <morla> LjL: ok. one moment
[11:46] <anon32> question: is spyware ok if it's bundled with games?
[11:46] <LjL> Shadow_mil: don't
[11:46] <Shadow_mil> LjL: ?
[11:47] <LjL> Shadow_mil: that thing that cool people should type. don't.
[11:47] <SpaGed> what should i use to burn the ISO onto a CD?
[11:47] <Shadow_mil> -rwxr-x--- 1 root admin 93844 2006-05-17 04:41 /usr/bin/sudo
[11:47] <sergevn> Spaged: Nero :)
[11:47] <admin_> anon32: lol..
[11:47] <SpaGed> ty, sergevn
[11:48] <SpaGed> brb
[11:48] <anon32> admin_, http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/17/1319235
[11:48] <SuperGeek> Hello
[11:48] <LjL> Shadow_mil: that looks like it's missing a setuid
[11:48] <anon32> :-\
[11:48] <SuperGeek> How can I open port 22 (SSH) on my server?
[11:48] <admin_> anon32: i read a bit ago, it think EA is retarded
[11:48] <LjL> Shadow_mil: -rwsr-xr-x 2 root root 91508 2006-10-09 13:37 /usr/bin/sudo
[11:48] <admin_> SuperGeek: are you runing ssh server?
[11:48] <sergevn> spaged: just use default settings of nero and burn an iso just like you burn others :)
[11:48] <cherubiel> it should be -rws
[11:48] <anon32> admin_, but it's not just EA
[11:48] <SuperGeek> admin_: yes
[11:48] <willys_fueguino> Hi!! A friend of mine cant go to System>administration>users, he gets this message: The configuration could not be loaded you are not allowed to access the system configuration, and he is logged in as root
[11:48] <willys_fueguino> any ideas??
[11:48] <admin_> oh..well..i dont but non open source games
[11:48] <LjL> Shadow_mil: but i'm using Edgy, so this might be different here
[11:49] <admin_> SuperGeek: well, if your running a ssh server (sshd) then 22 should be open to ssh
[11:49] <Shadow_mil> LjL: how do I fix it?
[11:49] <Eddieduce> I have managed to install wine and Firefox for running it uder a Windows environment, since Linux\Ubuntu does not support Shockwave.  Can anyone help in getting to the Windows Firefox version?
[11:49] <SuperGeek> admin_: Through the firewall?
[11:49] <anon32> willys_fueguino, he's root? graphically? ow..
[11:49] <admin_> SuperGeek: I dont undersatnd..
[11:49] <JamieBE> The problem I have is that one of my shared folders on an external USB 2.0 hard disk won't share over Samba. All of my other shares work, but when I try and access this share locally using the network explorer or using a Windows machine to browse the network it says it is unreachable. Can someone PLEASE have a stab at this one? I have looked into it for months, googled, left posts on the Ubuntu forum, read linux sites and have found nothing. Any help would
[11:49] <JamieBE>  be greatly appreciated.
[11:49] <SuperGeek> admin_: I'm talking for my friend...sorry, I run Fedora, not ubuntu
[11:49] <willys_fueguino> anon32, yeap.
[11:50] <blind> Eddieduce: wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Mozilla\ Firefox/firefox.exe (or whatever the path is)
[11:50] <admin_> SuperGeek: Can you assure me that your running an ssh server? Do: ps -A|grep sshd
[11:50] <SuperGeek> admin_: Ubuntu has no default installed firewall?
[11:50] <admin_> SuperGeek: yes, it has a default, i cant remmber what its called, but its pre running always
[11:50] <LjL> SuperGeek: no it doesn't
[11:50] <admin_> LjL: yes it does.
[11:50] <anon32> willys_fueguino, how'd he manage that (I assume he's a dumbass and not a linux nerd)?
[11:50] <admin_> LjL: or maybe..well..install firestarter..then its automatically alwyas running in background
[11:51] <cherubiel> SuperGeek: are you able to ssh to the box?
[11:51] <LjL> admin_: no it doesn't. it just has the iptables command, since that's a kernel thing. no proper firewall, nor any firewalling rules active by default
[11:51] <asmo674hurt> why beryl doesnt work?
[11:51] <admin_> w/e
[11:51] <SuperGeek> cherubiel: no
[11:51] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:51] <willys_fueguino> anon32, what??
[11:51] <SuperGeek> cherubiel: Firewall isue?
[11:51] <SuperGeek> issue*
[11:51] <cherubiel> SuperGeek: ping ?
[11:51] <anon32> ?
[11:51] <SuperGeek> one sec
[11:51] <LjL> tuxtux: PLEASE STOP doing that.
[11:51] <admin_> SuperGeek: Whats the error? (port 22 not allowed)?
[11:51] <SuperGeek> admin_: Network error: connection refused (I'm using puTTy)
[11:52] <admin_> SuperGeek: Then you dont have the sshd server running if it says "Port 22 refused
[11:52] <Flawless> Is xen domain-0 supported on amd64, and how can I get a kernel that supports it?
[11:52] <cherubiel> admin_: kernel level support is there, like LjL said, you need to have userland tools
[11:52] <Flawless> is there an official package?
[11:52] <admin_> SuperGeek: Are you sure you are running sshd?
[11:52] <SuperGeek> admin_: I dont know...
[11:52] <anon32> !root
[11:52] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:52] <Eddieduce> blind: Linux is new to me, can you be more detailed?  I have typed this into a terminal window but no luck.
[11:52] <SuperGeek> admin_: Its my friend
[11:52] <cherubiel> SuperGeek: chek your ssh server
[11:52] <admin_> SuperGeek: Type this in:  ps -A|grep sshd
[11:52] <asmo674hurt> Whats Up? When i try run beryl it say:
[11:52] <asmo674hurt> beryl: No composite extension
[11:52] <blind> I'm trying to burn an AVI to DVD. I use tovid to convert, but all I get is an mpg file, and I don't know how to burn it.
[11:52] <SuperGeek> admin_: How do I start one? Does ubuntu come with one pre-installed?
[11:52] <LjL> !beryl > asmo674hurt
[11:52] <SuperGeek> Ok, the SSHd process is not started
[11:53] <admin_> SuperGeek: then we need to isntall it
[11:53] <willys_fueguino> anon32, he enabled the root account
[11:53] <SuperGeek> admin_ : what command?
[11:53] <anon32> ugh..
[11:53] <anon32> why oh why?
[11:53] <admin_> SuperGeek: hold on a sec
[11:53] <blind> Eddieduce: basically the wine command is `wine program.exe` so what you have to do is find the firefox exe, and run it with wine. It should be tucked away in /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program Files somewhere.
[11:53] <SuperGeek> ok
[11:53] <cherubiel> SuperGeek: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[11:53] <constantine-xvi> is it possible to use/convert FLVs under ubuntu?
[11:53] <SpaGed> whenever i am done burning the CD, can i just take it out, and pop it back in and will it run from there?
[11:53] <constantine-xvi> pref. convert
[11:53] <SuperGeek> cherubiel: If the user is root, no sudo is nessessiary right?
[11:53] <anon32> constantine-xvi, no
[11:54] <cherubiel> SuperGeek: you are logged in as root?
[11:54] <morla> LjL: the console output: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4390/  and the make install output: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4388/  and the configure.log: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4389/
[11:54] <SuperGeek> yes
[11:54] <anon32> constantine-xvi, well... actually, if it's sorenson then yes... otherwise no
[11:54] <constantine-xvi> sorenson?!?!?
[11:54] <cherubiel> SuperGeek: ok, go ahead.. skip the sudo
[11:54] <admin_> SuperGeek: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:54] <willys_fueguino> Hi!! A friend of mine cant go to System>administration>users, he gets this message: The configuration could not be loaded you are not allowed to access the system configuration, and he is logged in as root any ideas?
[11:55] <SuperGeek> SElinux?
[11:55] <SuperGeek> Does ubuntu have SElinux?
[11:55] <MenZa> Well, logging in as root is a bad idea in the first place
[11:55] <Smotang> Does anyone have the link for popular programs from windows and their respective partner programs on linux?
[11:55] <admin_> SuperGeek: are you installing openssh-server?
[11:55] <cherubiel> SuperGeek: it again depends on whether you've installed the ssh server package, and there are vairants,.. the  openbsd secure shell, openssh is another implementation
[11:55] <MenZa> !photoshop
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about photoshop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <Smotang> Im after a Web page Design program
[11:55] <MenZa> hm.
[11:55] <sivik> MenZa: try gimp
[11:55] <SuperGeek> admin_ : once again...its not my box...my friend is typing the commands
[11:55] <cherubiel> Smotang: bluefish
[11:55] <dbernar1> http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/
[11:55] <JamieBE> The problem I have is that one of my shared folders on an external USB 2.0 hard disk won't share over Samba. All of my other shares work, but when I try and access this share locally using the network explorer or using a Windows machine to browse the network it says it is unreachable. Can someone PLEASE have a stab at this one? I have looked into it for months, googled, left posts on the Ubuntu forum, read linux sites and have found nothing. Any help would
[11:55] <JamieBE>  be greatly appreciated. << If anyone finds a potential solution to this one can they please reply to my post at... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273449 - Thanks.
[11:55] <leakd>  n8
[11:55] <cherubiel> !bluefish
[11:56] <blind> Smotang: like a wysiwyg kinda deal?
[11:56] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB
[11:56] <Smotang> blind: i have no idea?
[11:56] <MenZa> sivik: yes, I thought that linked to a site that compared Windows applications to their Linux equivalent
[11:56] <Smotang> cherubiel: thanks!
[11:56] <blind> Smotang: what program are you looking for an alternative to?
[11:56] <sivik> MenZa: you can run photoshop in crossover office
[11:56] <LjL> morla: looks horrible, wouldn't know where to start troubleshooting
[11:56] <Smotang> Microsoft frontpage
[11:56] <blind> MenZa: you can run PS7 in wine, but CS2 is hated.
[11:56] <admin_> eww
[11:57] <MenZa> I know, I know
[11:57] <Smotang> also Dreamweaver MX
[11:57] <Smotang> !bluefish
[11:57] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB
[11:57] <admin_> MenZa: why not use GIMP?
[11:57] <root> how can i create an user o view a list of user in ubuntu?
[11:57] <otwr> !compiz
[11:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:57] <blind> GIMP is way different from Photoshop.
[11:57] <admin_> yeah...oook
[11:57] <admin_> not CS2
[11:57] <anon32> yea, gimp is way inferior to photoshop
[11:58] <admin_> GIMP RAPES IT ALL!
[11:58] <root> :'(
[11:58] <admin_> You just dunno how to use it.
[11:58] <blind> you can produce similar results, but it's way different.
[11:58] <anon32> admin_, F/OSS blinds you....
[11:58] <admin_> mhm...
[11:58] <root> help?
[11:58] <Flawless> xen? anyone?
[11:58] <morla> LjL: it's messy isn'T it :)  I know that it will compile on dapper though..
[11:58] <Smotang> Ok Say I want to install Bluefish, at the moment i have Ubuntu 6.1, What steps would i need to take to install it?
[11:58] <LjL> blind: perhaps try Krita, it's a KDE program that is more similar to Photoshop, but it still lacks many features. also, i think the non-open Pixel32 program is available for linux (though not packaged for Ubuntu), and it mimicks Photoshop a lot
[11:58] <dbernar1> root: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:58] <anon32> Ubuntu 6.1 is out?
[11:58] <Smotang> hmm?
[11:58] <admin_> anon32: yes..
[11:58] <Smotang> Oh wait maybe i dont
[11:58] <cherubiel> Smotang: enable the universe repo, apt-get update; apt-get install bluefish
[11:58] <admin_> anon32: in beta form
[11:58] <totall_6_7> !edgy
[11:58] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:59] <totall_6_7> !schedule
[11:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:59] <anon32> oh
[11:59] <LjL> admin_, !caps and !language please...
[11:59] <Smotang> my bad I have version 6.06.1 LTS
[11:59] <anon32> lol
[11:59] <blind> !msg the bot
[11:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[11:59] <admin_> LjL: how about not..
[11:59] <hunkyspunky> hi
[11:59] <LjL> admin_: come again?
[11:59] <dbernar1> root: That is for command line adding a user, and other basic commands. There is also a gnome menu option, under System>Admin>Users for adding users and managing them.
[11:59] <hunkyspunky> hi
[11:59] <admin_> LjL: i'm sorry about using caps and such, but..i felt it was nessacary
[11:59] <willys_fueguino> dbernar1, Im having problems with that
[11:59] <Smotang> thanks cherubiel
[11:59] <hunkyspunky> can anybody help me with my chat room #thehotfix ?
[12:00] <LjL> admin_: it is never. avoid that, please.
[12:00] <blind> !offtopic > hunkyspunky
[12:00] <dbernar1> willys_fueguino: so you said. Why is this person logged into gnome as root again?
[12:00] <cherubiel> Smotang: if you need help in enabling the univ repo, paste your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[12:00] <jonah1980> hi i think this is a dapper problem as i'm still in dapper, but i want to use update manager to upgrade to edgy but it won't let me. it says it can't calculate the upgrade and i get this in the log file: http://pastebin.ca/207238
[12:01] <root> that person is me dbernar1
[12:01] <willys_fueguino> dbernar1, he cant log as a normal user, and he cant get into System>Admin>Users