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BluesKajwell, I installed flashplyer in all the browsers, but it still won't work with some media ...guess it has to be the 8.0 version which isn't available for linux yet :(12:12
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papim new to linux  is there a media bundle pack?12:12
papto download12:13
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ravariadont know12:14
papwhy dont you know?12:14
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pap:/12:14
dragonflysevenpap: You mean to get most multimedia to start working?12:15
ravariacause im new at this12:15
inphilwetrusthello?12:15
BluesKaj!media12:15
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs12:15
Kim^JWhats the name of the se xkb package?12:16
BluesKaj!codecs12:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:16
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dragonflysevenpap: For an easy way to install lots of codecs, check out Easy Ubuntu. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208310&highlight=pdf+forms)12:16
inphilwetrustanyone know anything setting up a torrent client on a college dorm network?12:16
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NightBirdhow do I install .rpm files?12:17
BluesKajno rpms in ubuntu12:17
Kim^JNightBird: sudo apt-get install alien12:17
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Kim^Jalien file.rpm file.deb12:17
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Kim^JBluesKaj: alien can convert.12:18
NightBirdhm...12:18
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BluesKajyeah, but one can DL the debs or tar files12:18
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BluesKajequivalents12:18
drizI'm trying toi fill out this PDF form and it's not working!!!! not cool i need to this12:18
drizi have pdftk and acroreader installed still can't fill it out!!!!12:19
drizKubuntu is not making me happy right now!12:19
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grothesk_Anyone using lightscribe in kubuntu?12:20
grothesk_http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=1080312:20
grothesk_It says it is validatet on Ubuntu. But it is a rpm. O_o12:21
BluesKajheh, i have it but don't even use it windows12:21
drizanyone?12:21
BluesKajin windows12:21
dragonflysevendriz: sorry man12:21
BluesKajprolly need xtra drivers for your burner12:22
grothesk_If you don't use it, don't buy it.12:22
grothesk_But if you are interested in it, you can use it now under your favourite OS. Nice.12:23
drizdragonflyseven: eh it's ok I'm going to have to do it at work on a windows computer12:23
drizpeople will bad mouth me because i usually tell them to try kubuntu12:23
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dragonflysevendriz: Thats how it always is. Someday they will realize their mistake, but it will be too late. Bwahaha. :)12:25
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drizdragonflyseven: YUP... =.=12:25
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soulrideris anyone here using beryl ?12:26
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LjL!beryl > soulrider12:27
fdovinggnite.12:28
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avagantAnybody here?12:43
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|lostbyte|avagant, Hi :)12:47
avaganthey there.12:48
soulriderhi12:48
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avagantso uh, i just installed kubuntu coming from ubuntu.12:48
avagantand i have 2 hard drives.12:48
avagantthe second one, i left untouched but now when i try to play mp3's in anything amarok etc, it basically starts it and ends it.12:49
soulriderah yes12:49
soulrideryou gotta install support for it12:49
soulrider!mp312:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:49
avagantbut i just finished installing all the 'streamers'12:50
avagantand what not, and it's still doing it?12:50
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soulrideruhm12:50
|lostbyte|avagant, sudo apt-get install w32codecs libxine-extracodecs gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly12:50
soulrideri htink i read about mp3 support ont he amaork forums12:51
soulrideror hte amarok site12:51
soulrideryou might wanna read there12:51
soulrideroh, install that :P12:51
soulrideror*12:51
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avagantIt keeps telling me it can't play mp3's and to install mp3 support which is what I just did?12:53
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avagantup nevermind.12:54
avagantThere it goes.12:54
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avagantNothing a good old quit and restart will handle.12:55
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haleuhello all12:58
|lostbyte|haleu, Hi.12:59
haleuhow mash memory most i have too run kubuntu12:59
|lostbyte|haleu, huh, 256 MB atlest.12:59
|lostbyte|512 Recommended.12:59
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haleuok01:00
haleui have 512 in my computer01:00
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avagantHey how do I get konquerer to use the flash and java plug ins.01:00
dennisterhowdy pps; could anyone help me fix the trash applet?01:00
|lostbyte|avagant, there is a plugins settin in its configuration.01:02
dennisterhi lostbyte :)01:02
|lostbyte|dennister, Hi, Long time.01:02
|lostbyte|:)01:02
dennisteryes, u've been quiet...and i working on a brand new installation01:03
|lostbyte|dennister, :) then welcome back ..01:03
dennisteragain :( i wanted it pristine b4 i tried again with the ivtv drivers01:03
avaganto rly01:03
avagantI'll have to go look that up Riiiiiiight now.01:03
dennisterright now i wonder if u could help me with my trash applet?01:04
|lostbyte|dennister, whats with it ?01:04
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dennisterit just has never worked in kubuntu/kde...only with gnome01:04
|lostbyte|dennister, what do you mean by not working ?01:05
dennisterif i try to send something to trash in konq, i get an error message that it can't make certain files01:05
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dennisteri then make those directories as root, and trash applet still can't find them01:05
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avagantHey that's neat, I don't really have to configure the whole alsa ordeal.01:08
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avagantI can get 2 things playing at once.01:08
cpk2mencoder does avi to mpg2 right?01:09
|lostbyte|cpk2, huh, yes.. i guess.01:09
dennisteri just made a screenshot and saved it...then tried to send it to trash..."could not make folder /home/username/.local/share/Trash."01:09
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dennistersometimes it says the same thing, but adds a further directory to the path: info01:10
dennisterwhy does it work in gnome, but not in kde/kubuntu?01:11
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|lostbyte|dennister, the appplet doest show up ?01:11
dennisterno, it shows up, just doesn't function01:11
|lostbyte|dennister, open trash:/ in konqueror.01:12
Homeris trash in KDE user specific?01:12
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dennisterk...and the same error message is in there01:12
dennisterthis time about the info01:13
dennistertrash can't be loaded01:13
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|lostbyte|dennister, mkdir ~/.local/share/Trash/info01:14
dennisterI tried that earlier b4 coming in here...didn't work01:14
dennisterbut i'll try again...01:15
wordHmm..for some reason..over a period of time (a few hours) my computer's memory (1 gig) eventually gets all used up and..everything slows down.01:16
|lostbyte|word, free ?01:17
dennisterk...root terminal told me it cannot creat directory...no such file or directory01:17
word|lostbyte|: free?01:18
|lostbyte|dennister, as normal user. not as root.01:18
|lostbyte|word, output of command "free"01:18
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dennistertried that too...: Permission denied01:18
|lostbyte|dennister, argh, get into root..01:18
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word|lostbyte|: it's not especially slow right now but under the memory free column - 29,99601:19
dennisterk...didn't get an error message this time...let's see01:19
|lostbyte|dennister, as user do, sudo mv ~/.local/share/Trash ~/.local/share/xTrash01:20
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|lostbyte|dennister, then do..01:20
|lostbyte|dennister, then as user do, mkdir ~/.local/share/Trash/info ~/.local/share/Trash/files01:21
|lostbyte|word, what does it say for total swap ?01:21
word|lostbyte|: none of the swap is in  use01:22
wordbut 1,558,26401:22
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wordfor some reason when i installed suse on top of it suse wanted a massive swap..i'm planning on reducing it soon...01:23
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dennister|lostbyte|: sorry..didn't work...did the two commands u gave me to the letter (copy & paste) and nada...can't create the directories01:24
|lostbyte|word, The memroy is not all used up but is stored as disk cache. its a linux feature. dont worry abou tit.01:24
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word|lostbyte|: ...the computer slows to the point of unusability after a few hours which is something to worry about..01:25
|lostbyte|word, It must be an application.01:25
wordyah..would it stop slowing down after the application is closed? or is there a way for me to 'clean' the memory if this is a memory leak problem?01:26
|lostbyte|dennister, did you do.. the mkdir command.01:26
dennisteryes, i did01:26
|lostbyte|dennister, what output did you get for it ?01:27
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dennistermkdir: cannot create directory...(the path)...No such file or directory01:27
bilbreyhola. bluetooth mac mini (ppc) blues. Google no bloody help at all. Anyone here with experience or a pointer?01:28
|lostbyte|dennister, ok, seems that it creates it automatically, do this .. sudo rm ~/.local/share/Trash/ -rfv01:28
|lostbyte|dennister, and run trash:/ in konqueror..01:29
word|lostbyte|: do you know how to free memory caused by a memory leak in an application?01:29
|lostbyte|word, MEmory allocation is done by the kernel, I dought there is way..01:30
dennisterk...still the same error message in konq: can't load trash:/...could not make folder...(ath)01:31
|lostbyte|word, Best is to Remove / Upgrade that application.01:31
word|lostbyte|: how would i find out what application it is?01:31
|lostbyte|word, command "top" or ctrl + esc ..01:31
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|lostbyte|dennister, huh.. ls -l ~/.local/ ?01:32
word|lostbyte|: how big is -too big-?01:33
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|lostbyte|word, look at the vmsize, if its taking more, than usual.01:35
dennisterk...seems root owns both the applications and xTrash directories in ~/.local/share01:35
dennisterpermissions are drwxr-xr-x01:35
|lostbyte|dennister, what about the shares folder ?01:35
dennisterthere are 2 directories in ~/.local/share...applications and xTrash01:36
dennisterroot owns both of them with the permissions noted above01:36
|lostbyte|dennister, ls -l ~/.local/              ..?01:36
dennisteri did that first, and only got the share directory...as in the path i always got in the error messages01:37
|lostbyte|yeah that dir is woned by whom ?01:37
|lostbyte|owned*01:38
dennistershare dir is owned by root, too, with the same permissions01:38
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|lostbyte|Argh.. ok whats your username on that system ?01:38
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dennister|lostbyte|: u talking to me, asking me my username?01:39
dennisterit's cathy01:39
dennisterthere: i've blown my real name :)01:39
|lostbyte|dennister, sudo chown cathy:cathy ~/.local/share01:40
|lostbyte|dennister, Hi cathy :P01:40
dennisterheheheh...k done01:40
|lostbyte|My real name is Ryan.01:40
dennisternot too many females in here, eh?01:41
|lostbyte|ok, now rm ~/.local/share/xTrash01:41
|lostbyte|with sudo.01:41
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|lostbyte|dennister, sudo rm ~/.local/share/xTrash -rfv01:43
dennistershouldn't i do "rmdir ~/.local/share/xTrash/info -rfv" first?01:44
dennisterit's not empty01:44
|lostbyte|dennister, -r removes a directory and files in it recersivly.01:45
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dennisterk...it gave me an error message at first, but i believe it worked this time01:46
flavioribeiroi have to install one fuckin win software, whats the better 'win emulator'?01:46
dennisterat least terminal told me it removed...xTrash01:47
|lostbyte|dennister, Now run trash:/ in konqueror.01:47
|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, language plz.01:47
|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, What software ?01:47
flavioribeirocircuit maker01:47
dennisteryeyyyyyy!!!01:47
dennisterno error messages :)01:48
|lostbyte|dennister, :)01:48
|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, sudo apt-get install wine01:48
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dennisterthank you |lostbyte|! <kiss>01:48
|lostbyte|:-X01:48
dennisterboy that thing was stubborn01:48
flavioribeirothe teacher said to me that i need to install this software to learn to work at this interface |lostbyte|01:48
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|lostbyte|!wine01:49
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:49
flavioribeirothanks01:49
|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, ^^01:49
flavioribeiroX)01:49
dennisterhmmm: maybe I'll have to try wine...would love to be able to run Endnote on my kubuntu01:49
dennisterof course, the front end is a plugin for ms word, but I work mainly in the backend database01:50
|lostbyte|k01:51
flavioribeiromy apt couldnt find wine :|01:52
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dennisterk...is there a bigger newb than I that I can help?01:52
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LjLflavioribeiro: you don't have Universe enabled i guess01:52
LjL!tell flavioribeiro about universe01:53
LjL!tell flavioribeiro about wine01:53
word|lostbyte|: i figure it's session saver in a firefox-based browser called flock...or maybe flock itself since it's beta...gonna stay away from it until an update claiming to fix problems like that i guess.01:53
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|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, sudo echo "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main">>/etc/apt/sources.list01:54
reybitqualcuno ancora sveglio che parla italiano?01:54
|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, sudo apt-get update01:54
LjL!it01:54
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:54
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reybitwell, very thanks01:54
flavioribeirohuh thanks01:55
flavioribeirolet me see if works now01:55
|lostbyte|word, yes, firefox really slowes down reaction time here. home its fixed in ver 201:55
flavioribeiroFalha ao baixar http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found01:55
flavioribeiroFalha ao baixar http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found01:56
flavioribeiroeps01:56
flavioribeirosorry :\01:56
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|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, just a min..01:56
flavioribeirook01:56
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|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, when do you get the above ?01:58
flavioribeiroat the end of 'update'01:58
|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, try it again..01:59
flavioribeiroIgn http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper/main Packages01:59
flavioribeiroErr http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper/main Packages01:59
flavioribeiro  404 Not Found01:59
|lostbyte|Your on edgy ?02:00
flavioribeiroi dont know whats edgy :( im lammo02:00
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dennisterk...does anyone know of the last developments in regards to the PLF repositories? can't get them into synaptic or adept02:01
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|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, have you done a full_upgrade lately ?02:02
dennistergot w32codecs installed, but need to fix my java plugins...installed them the hard way, thru the original packages02:02
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flavioribeiroyes02:02
flavioribeiroafter the installation i updated and upgrated02:03
flavioribeiroi cant just get the .deb?02:03
|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, you could do that..02:04
dennisterhi bLaZeD02:04
flavioribeirobut install by apt its better02:04
dennisterhow's it going?02:04
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|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, I guess the dont have an edgy repo..02:05
|lostbyte|Download the deb from the main site.02:05
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|lostbyte|!java02:05
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository02:05
|lostbyte|dennister, ^^02:05
flavioribeirook, but if u wanna paste your repos i will be great02:05
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|lostbyte|All you need is sun-java5-jre02:06
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|lostbyte|flavioribeiro, Guess, you have to wait, cause edgy is'nt officially out.02:06
dennister|lostbyte|: yes, I was trying to follow that same howto...but because I had to install those java packages individually (PLF repositories being unavailable due to the maintainers retiring) this howto isn't working too well02:07
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smaggardhi02:08
Riddellhi smaggard02:08
smaggardhiiyas02:08
|lostbyte|dennister, ok02:08
dennisterfor instance...my java is in a different directory, so the line update=java-alternatives -l isn't giving me the sun java choice02:09
smaggardhmmm02:09
smaggarddid u install it using apt-get?02:09
dennistersmaggard: r u talking to me? no, i couldn't because, as I said, there was a problem with the PLF repositories02:10
smaggardhmm02:11
smaggardbrb02:11
dennisterk02:11
|lostbyte|dennister, you just need the plugins ?02:11
|lostbyte|dennister, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre02:12
|lostbyte|dennister, Your using the plugin for a browser ?02:13
dennisteri can't apt-get the plugins because the PLF repositories are unavailable02:14
dennisteri can't get them into apt or any other installer02:14
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smaggardadd the right repositories.. its real easy02:14
dennisteri tried for ages to get them into my sources.list02:14
smaggardits reallly easy02:15
smaggardreally02:15
dennistersmaggard: normally it is; i've done it many times02:15
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|lostbyte|dennister, Anyways. Its Nighty Night for me. take care and Goodnight..02:15
|lostbyte|Bye All.02:15
dennisterthanks |lostbyte|02:15
smaggardbye02:15
dennistersmaggard: if u can find me a deb line that works, great, but many of the PLF maintainers have recently retired02:16
dennisterso they're not offering these packages anymore02:16
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dennisterand this is since this past Saturday, too --the unavailability is that recent02:17
smaggardwhat version of kubuntu are you running?02:17
dennisterdapper02:18
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dennister2.6.15-27-amd64-k802:18
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dennisterhttp://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/breezy/non-free/ is the only place I could find to download the packages indivdiually with dkpg -i --force-architecture02:20
smaggardo well in breezy i have this :02:20
smaggard# For Java and w32codecs02:20
smaggarddeb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free02:20
smaggarddeb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free02:20
dennisterk...seems to be very similar to what I had...hold on02:21
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dr`venomhey guys do any of you know how I can get a native resolution of 1440x900?02:22
dr`venomIt does not show up as an option02:22
dr`venomI've already installed my nvidia drivers02:23
smaggardgo into your xorg.conf02:23
smaggardu know where that is?02:23
dr`venomI was in there02:23
dr`venomyea02:23
smaggardok02:23
dr`venomI see three values02:23
smaggardyou can add a mode of that resolution02:23
dr`venomwhen I add the 1440x900, half of the desktop goes off screen02:24
dr`venom"1440x900"02:24
smaggarddoes your monitor support that high?02:24
dennistersmaggard: k...edited my synaptic repositories to yours and I got the same error message when I tried to reload: Could not download all repository indexes02:24
dr`venomyea02:24
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smaggardhmm what are you apt-getting?02:24
dr`venomits native resolution is 1440x900 (LCD)02:25
dennister"the packages may no longer be available..." and they have retired, yes, since Saturday02:25
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smaggardare you just trying to install java?02:25
dennisterI have installed java, but I had to do it through another method than thru the plf and apt-get, synaptic...02:26
dennisterlet me find the howto i followed02:26
smaggarddr venom> did you add the resolution to the modes section?02:26
dr`venomyea02:27
dr`venomnothing came out other than what is already there02:27
dr`venomshould I restart the computer02:27
dr`venommaybe that will get it going?02:27
smaggardfor example :02:27
smaggardSection "Screen"02:27
smaggard    Identifier    "Default Screen"02:27
dennisterhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava02:27
smaggard    Device        "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] "02:27
smaggard    Monitor        "CM752ET"02:27
smaggard    DefaultDepth    1602:27
smaggard    SubSection "Display":02:27
smaggard        Depth        1602:27
smaggard        Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768"02:27
smaggard    EndSubSection02:27
smaggardEndSection02:27
dr`venommy monitor says generic02:28
smaggardyeah thats fine02:28
smaggardwhat drive is xorg.conf using?02:28
dennister!java02:29
dr`venomit is using nvidia02:29
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository02:29
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dr`venomdriver "nvidia"02:29
smaggardwhat about modeline, did you add the resolution there too?02:30
dr`venomyea02:30
smaggardhmm iunno then thats weird02:30
dr`venomso under mode "1440x900" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"02:31
dennisterso the first howto i gave the link for did install the java packages into /usr/local/java32, but I can't seem to go on from there using the second howto02:31
dr`venombut it only gives me the last three options02:31
dr`venomcan I take out one of those resolutions and add mine02:31
dr`venommaybe it only supports 3?02:31
dr`venomI did that one time before and it worked, but then my sound went out02:32
dr`venomlol02:32
dr`venomso I reinstalled02:32
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dr`venomhey under section "device" I only have two lines02:34
dr`venomis that ok02:34
dr`venomI only have identifier and a driver line02:34
dennistersmaggard: u seem to be very busy with dr`venom here, so I'll come back later02:35
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MegaMasterXhello02:38
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Zaire_Awayweee I got my forum working lol02:40
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dr`venomman, this resolution is killing me02:42
dr`venomok, what is the deal with this thing02:44
dr`venomso, I got it at 1440x900 now02:44
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dr`venombut whenever, I log out and come back it gives me this huge ass resolution where I can't see 1/2 of my desktop02:45
dr`venomI have to reset the resolution for it to be at 1440x90002:45
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granbarHello. Where should I put the firmware files of ivtv?02:46
dr`venombrb, I have to go eat02:46
dr`venomlol02:46
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granbarI get an error:02:47
granbarivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw02:47
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argonelis anything known about the mouse cursor jumping around by itself?02:48
granbarIt happens to all mouses in the world02:49
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granbarespecially on laptops02:49
MegaMasterXCan anyone give me some assistance?02:49
argonelfor instance, i'll be moving it left near the bottom left, it will suddenly be on the right near the middle02:49
MegaMasterXI need to upgrade my video drivers, but I can't open the exe file02:50
coreymon77of course not02:50
coreymon77exe is doze02:50
argonelcould be a sfx zip02:50
MegaMasterXWhat's the terminal command to unzip it?02:50
argonelprobably unzip02:51
MegaMasterXHm, ok.02:51
MegaMasterXLet me try real quick02:51
CVirus!02:51
argonelnot very imaginative, i agree02:51
MegaMasterXOH I'm so sorry, it's a ".run" file02:52
granbarsh filename.run02:52
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MegaMasterXI've tried that02:52
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granbaror chmod it to 70002:52
granbaror something02:52
MegaMasterXOh i see02:52
MegaMasterXthere we go02:52
granbar:)02:52
MegaMasterXOh darn, it needs to be run as the root user.02:53
MegaMasterX>.<02:53
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granbarsudo it02:53
argonelcomforting02:53
MegaMasterXsudo?02:53
MegaMasterXSorry, i'm new to the Linux scene02:53
argonelman sudo02:53
granbarsudo ./name_of_file.run02:53
MegaMasterXok02:53
granbar( in the same directory )02:53
granbarYou will be asked for your password02:53
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dr`venomrebooting02:53
dr`venomI hope it works, I dont want to go back to suse02:53
MegaMasterXIt says command not found....02:54
MegaMasterXafter it asked for my password02:54
MegaMasterXsudo: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86.1.0-8774.pkg1.run: command not found02:54
MegaMasterXNow it's not asking for the password at all, does it save the fact that I entered the password?02:55
argonelfor a while, yes02:56
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argonelMegaMasterX: probably needs better permissions.. chmod a+x the_file02:57
smaggardyeah it will rember the root password :D02:57
zen2for a short time02:58
dr`venomman02:58
dr`venomit sort of works now02:58
dr`venomlol02:58
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slopwhich package is the one that gives you the ability to play mp3's from the console using the command 'play'?02:58
VanessaEsox?02:58
MegaMasterXStill saying Command not found >.< Frustrating.02:59
slopVanessaE, thx02:59
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argonelMegaMasterX: head -1 the_file, whats it say?02:59
smaggardcommand now found? type ls and see if its listed there02:59
MegaMasterX#! /bin/sh03:00
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argonelodd. i never use sudo, don't know how to debug its problems :p03:00
VanessaEit's been a while, slop - that might not be the right pkg03:00
slopVanessaE, it was, thanks :)  (setting up an icon on my 4 year old's computer so it will play a song for her)03:01
VanessaEah03:01
argonelMegaMasterX: how about sudo sh the_file?03:01
MegaMasterXsh: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774.pkg1.run: No such file or directory03:01
MegaMasterXWhoops03:02
MegaMasterXI forgot the ./03:02
smaggardyeah03:02
MegaMasterXsh: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774.pkg1.run: No such file or directory03:02
MegaMasterXO_O03:02
argonelperhaps there are instructions where you got the file?03:02
MegaMasterXNone.03:02
MegaMasterXThere aren't any on the nVidia website03:02
argonelO_o03:02
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sam_MegaMasterX: sh /path/to/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774.pkg1.run03:03
argonelMegaMasterX: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8774/README/chapter-04.html03:04
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MegaMasterXHm.03:04
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argonelclick on the home link to get the toc03:05
MegaMasterXSam_ It still doesn't work03:05
MegaMasterXok argonel, I'll look into it03:06
sam_shrug, apt-get install nvidia-glx03:06
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MegaMasterX(Forgive the spam)03:06
MegaMasterXE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)03:06
MegaMasterXE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?03:06
CVirussudo03:07
MegaMasterXsudo the exe?03:07
MegaMasterXer the run file?03:07
argonelno, sudo apt-get03:07
CVirusMegaMasterX: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx03:07
MegaMasterXoh lol03:07
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MegaMasterX:O!03:07
MegaMasterXIt's alive!03:07
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MegaMasterXI'm thinking it's done.03:08
MegaMasterXso that's all I need to do? It's upgraded?03:08
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CVirusMegaMasterX: restart X03:09
MegaMasterX.....I didn't know Kubuntu had X.....I hate being a newbie...03:09
CViruserr03:10
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CVirusMegaMasterX: you need to read more about GNU/Linux03:10
MegaMasterXI agree.03:10
MegaMasterXI only took half a class on it, I'm able to work RedHat but Kubuntu...I dont know the differences03:11
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MegaMasterXI'm gonna just restart the machiene.03:12
OODdont03:12
MegaMasterX?03:12
MegaMasterXWhy03:12
OODCtrl+alt+backspace restarts X03:12
MegaMasterXOOH Thank you03:13
VanessaEjust ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X...  you're not supposed to need to restart linux03:13
CViruswait03:13
VanessaEexcept for a kernel change of course.03:13
OODyea03:13
VanessaEsigh03:13
VanessaEtoo busy feeling homesick (Google Earth)03:13
OODnow lets hope he comes back03:13
OODheh03:13
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CVirusfine03:14
OODwelcome back03:14
megamasterxThank you.03:14
CVirusmegamasterx: feeling better now ?03:14
megamasterxhaha I think so, let me test my game now03:14
OODyou dont ever need to restart linux unless a kernel upgrade03:15
CViruswhat game was it ?03:15
megamasterxUh oh.03:15
megamasterxGraal.03:15
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megamasterxCould not find a compatable OpenGL Displa Resolution. Please Check your driver configuration. (Error: Couldn't find matching GLX Visual)03:15
megamasterx*Display03:15
VanessaEmega: open a terminal, glxinfo03:15
CVirusmegamasterx: glxinfo | grep render03:15
VanessaEer, yeah that03:16
tony_Hello. KDE .. how can i add folder to root / var /www ??? thanks03:16
megamasterxOh jeez there are about 8 errors03:16
VanessaEactually, grep -i03:16
CVirustony_: kdesu konqueror03:16
VanessaEmega: lsmod - is "nvidia" listed03:16
VanessaE?03:16
tony_thanks03:16
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megamasterxYes03:17
megamasterxit is03:17
HawkwindYou really should *not* run konqueror as root03:17
HawkwindThat is a really really bad idea03:17
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VanessaEok..  try chmod 1666 /dev/nvidia* and restart X again03:17
MegaMasterXshould I use sudo?03:17
VanessaEyeah03:17
MegaMasterXI'm learning :)03:18
tony_when i use that command, i get many error listed in konsole .. and konquere open but i can not access  www folder03:18
MegaMasterXchmod: cannot access `/dev/nvidia': No such file or directory03:18
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VanessaEnvidia*03:18
drizHey Hawkwind, do you know how to get the arobat reader which lets you fill out PDF forms03:18
driz?03:18
CVirustony_: which command andw hat error !03:18
VanessaE(with the star)03:18
Hawkwindtony_: Because you don't need to run konqueror as root, ever03:18
MegaMasterXok now03:18
tony_kdesu konqueror.. and i get errors about BadDevice..03:18
Hawkwindtony_: The advice given to you was wrong.03:18
MegaMasterXIt apparently worked03:18
VanessaEok, try restarting X and try your game again03:19
Hawkwindtony_: That's not an error, just a warning.  But please don't use kdesu konqueror03:19
tony_if i don't use it as root , it seems i can not add folder03:19
OODHawkwind: is there a specific reason why not? or just to be save and avoid deleting / ?03:19
MotorCitymadMan!usb03:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:19
Hawkwindtony_: sudo mkdir /var/www/whatever03:19
tony_thanks. will try that03:19
MotorCitymadMan!mount03:19
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks03:19
MegaMasterXIt's still showing quite a number of "GLX Extention" missing errors03:20
HawkwindOOD: Because it can and will change perms on certain files by default forcing konqueror to not open at all until after a reboot03:20
VanessaEMega: you have to restart X to make that change take effect03:20
MegaMasterXOh.03:20
MegaMasterXok03:20
VanessaE(at least, I always had to)03:20
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MegaMasterXlets check for errors now.03:22
MegaMasterX.....They're still there..03:22
VanessaEeh.03:22
CVirusMegaMasterX: lsmod | grep nvidia03:22
MegaMasterXok03:22
MegaMasterXgot it, now what03:23
tony_now how can i write to that file ?? im learning PHP so i creat files using KATE.. but need to save to the folder just created. and i have no access right03:23
CVirusMegaMasterX: what is the output ?03:23
MegaMasterX(Excuse the spam)03:23
CVirusno no no03:23
CViruswait03:23
MegaMasterX?03:23
CVirusdont paste !!03:23
MegaMasterXok03:23
OOD!pastebin03:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:24
CVirusMegaMasterX: ^03:24
MegaMasterXoh lol03:24
MegaMasterXDone03:24
driz does anyone know how to get the adobe reader which lets you fill out PDF forms?03:24
CVirusMegaMasterX: give me the link03:24
MegaMasterXhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27166/03:24
tony_how can i make the folder writable ? :):)03:25
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CVirusMegaMasterX: the nvidia module is loaded ... now ... glxinfo | grep render03:25
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MegaMasterXok03:25
CVirusMegaMasterX: paste the output too03:25
MegaMasterXhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27167/03:26
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VanessaEcopy&paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin03:27
MegaMasterXok03:27
CVirus!nvidia03:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:28
RagePrblmthx I was looking for that!03:28
MegaMasterXDone03:28
CVirusMegaMasterX: give him the URL !03:29
RagePrblmDoes anyone know how to change the desktop setting, from 1 click to open an icon/program to a double click?03:29
MegaMasterXoops03:29
VanessaEurl plz :)03:29
MegaMasterXhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27168/03:29
CVirusMegaMasterX: what is the exact model of your card ?03:29
VanessaE(him?  gee, thanks. :)03:29
MegaMasterXnVidia GeForce 403:29
MegaMasterXGPU03:29
CVirus4xxx ?03:29
MegaMasterXIt was built in to my motherboard.03:29
RagePrblmouch03:29
MegaMasterXJust GeForce403:29
tony_OK got how CHMOD works :P03:30
OODRagePrblm: go to system settings->mouse & keyboard03:30
VanessaE616. (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)03:30
CVirusbuilt-in nvidia ?03:30
VanessaEthere's the prob.03:30
CVirusare you sure about that ?!03:30
RagePrblmthanks OOD03:30
MegaMasterXCVirus: Yes03:30
MegaMasterXand VanessaE: I don't get it what do i need to do03:30
OODRagePrblm: np03:30
VanessaEsomething tells me his X isn't even finding the glx module at all (I've had issues like that before)03:30
VanessaEno, strike that..  it found it.03:31
CVirusMegaMasterX: lspci | grep -i nvidia03:31
MegaMasterXYou did?03:31
MegaMasterXwoah thats a lot of output03:31
MegaMasterXpastebin?03:31
VanessaEhm, model NV18 - GF4 MX03:31
VanessaEsounds like my husband's card, come to think of it03:31
RagePrblmthats a gf2 gpu i think03:32
MegaMasterXWell, its built in to my Abit NF7-M motherboard.03:32
CVirusouch03:32
CVirus<VanessaE> (him?  gee, thanks. :)03:32
CVirusVanessaE: sorry about that03:32
VanessaEs'ok :)03:32
MegaMasterXShould I pastebin the output?03:32
CVirusMegaMasterX: yes03:32
MegaMasterXok03:32
MegaMasterXhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27169/03:33
MegaMasterXwoah hold on03:33
MegaMasterXits cut off03:33
CVirusits okay03:33
VanessaEhas the display driver even been set for 'nvidia'?  or is it still 'nv'?03:34
MegaMasterXhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27170/03:35
MegaMasterXGeez still cut off >.>03:35
CVirusMegaMasterX: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:35
MegaMasterXok03:35
CVirusMegaMasterX: I dont need it any longer03:35
CVirusMegaMasterX: issue that command03:35
MegaMasterXError...pastebin-ning it03:36
MegaMasterXhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27171/03:36
MegaMasterXOh duh, that had the last command in it >.<03:36
VanessaEgrep -i "nv" /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin the resutl03:36
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MegaMasterXhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27172/03:37
VanessaEthere you go03:37
CVirusdone03:37
MegaMasterXis that all?03:37
VanessaEline 2 should have read:  Driver "nvidia"03:38
VanessaEthat's the problem.03:38
MegaMasterXoh.....03:38
MegaMasterXthere are 2 drivers, I noticed03:38
VanessaEprolly vesa or vga?03:38
CVirusMegaMasterX: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:38
CVirusMegaMasterX: search for that line03:39
CVirusDriver          "nv"03:39
CVirusand change it too03:39
CVirusto*03:39
MegaMasterXJeez, so many errors....03:39
CVirusDriver          "nvidia"03:39
CVirusMegaMasterX: its okay03:39
MegaMasterXIt couldn't open it.03:39
CVirusMegaMasterX: dont paste them03:39
CVirusgrr03:39
MegaMasterXCannot talk to klauncher?03:39
MegaMasterXI'm just gonna browse to it.03:40
CVirusMegaMasterX: you need root access03:40
CVirusI mean ..03:40
MegaMasterXI already entered in the password.03:40
CVirusMegaMasterX: you cant edit it as a normal user03:40
VanessaE(I'd have just used nano :)03:40
CVirusVanessaE: he's a newbie03:40
VanessaEright03:40
VanessaEbetter he should use kate or so03:40
MegaMasterXYea....... I'm sorry03:40
VanessaEdon't be03:40
VanessaEwe all were n00bs once03:40
RagePrblmI still am!03:40
CVirusVanessaE: I beleive I'm still one of them03:41
VanessaEheh03:41
CVirushavent reached my goal yet :-)03:41
MegaMasterXHaha, i opened it in kate.03:41
MegaMasterXThank you Konqueror <303:41
CVirusthat makes me still a n00b03:41
VanessaEdah03:41
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VanessaEwhat's your goal, dare I ask?03:41
MegaMasterXMy goal?>03:42
VanessaECVirus's03:42
MegaMasterXoh03:42
CVirusVanessaE: being a Gentoo Developer03:42
CVirus:-)03:42
VanessaEoo03:42
MegaMasterX:O!03:42
VanessaEambitious!03:42
MegaMasterXwhat line do I need to search for, again?03:42
CVirussomehow03:42
VanessaEwell go for it by all means :)03:42
VanessaEMega: look for  Driver03:42
CVirusDriver          "nv"03:42
CViruschange it to03:42
MegaMasterXand delete it?03:42
CVirusDriver          "nvidia"03:42
VanessaEchange nv -->  nvidia03:42
MegaMasterXok03:43
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VanessaEbe sure you write the line just as CVirus says03:43
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MegaMasterXokay. I gotta give myself write access ._.03:43
MegaMasterXGah.03:43
VanessaEyou gotta be root (sudo/kdesu)03:43
CVirusVanessaE: one way or another .. Kubuntu isnt my main distro ... I use Gentoo on my desktop and Kubuntu on my laptop03:43
MegaMasterXAww!03:43
MegaMasterXtime to log off.03:44
CViruswait03:44
MegaMasterX?03:44
MegaMasterXIsn't there another way/03:44
CVirusMegaMasterX: did you edit it ?03:44
CVirusyes there is03:44
MegaMasterXyes03:44
MegaMasterXIt won't let me save it03:44
VanessaECV: I used to use gentoo, worked pretty good but I got tired of the constant building (not fun on an 800 MHz P3)... now with this fast box I have, I might try it again sometime03:44
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CVirusMegaMasterX: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:44
MegaMasterXok03:45
MegaMasterXuhmmmmm03:45
CVirusMegaMasterX: edit it03:45
MegaMasterXok03:45
MegaMasterXI'll try to find my way around it03:45
CVirusMegaMasterX: then press Ctrl X03:45
VanessaEMega: don't try to use your mouse, btw :)03:45
OODit's cli edit, usefull when you dont have  a gui to start kate with03:45
VanessaEall keyboard controls here.03:45
MegaMasterXI thought so.03:45
omarHi guys, I need some help , I am mounting a disk like this "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /media/hd4" but I would like to give it more permissions in order to erase and move, there, is there an extra command that I can add, please03:46
MegaMasterXAnd to save?03:46
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OODCTR+O03:46
VanessaEMega: ctrl-X03:46
MegaMasterXok03:46
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MegaMasterXdone.03:46
OODCTRL+X quits the program ;)03:46
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VanessaEOOD: it also savesw03:46
CVirusOOD: and prompts you to save03:46
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VanessaEin the case of omar's issue, wouldn't a chmod to mount point work for him?03:47
MegaMasterXwhats that command to redo the......g something03:47
MegaMasterXgrep, thats it03:47
OODCVirus: ah. it does03:47
CVirusVanessaE: nope03:47
VanessaEdamn03:47
CVirusomar: mount by default uses the -w argument03:47
VanessaEsounds like the issue I used to have with memory cards, always wanted root.03:47
CVirusread/write access03:47
drizdoes anyone know how to get the adobe reader which lets you fill out PDF forms?03:48
CVirusomar: so you could read/write on the disk with sudo03:48
omarCVIrus instead of -t ?03:48
VanessaEMega: you have to restart X after editing that file.  But be sure you did it right!03:48
RagePrblmDoes divx/xvid come installed with kubuntu as default?03:48
MegaMasterXGot it03:48
CVirusomar: use the same exact command you pasted03:48
omarCVIrus whats the command03:48
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CVirusomar: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /media/hd403:48
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omarCVIrus ok, and then03:48
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CVirusomar: incase you want to move things .. just use sudo mv03:49
CVirusomar: or even kdesu konqueror03:49
omarCVIrus mm, but i would like to munt it with all permisions, can I?03:49
CVirusomar: I said its already mounted with read/write permissions ... but for super user .. not normal users03:50
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CVirusmegamasterx: glxinfo | grep render03:50
MegaMasterXOk03:50
CVirusMegaMasterX: come on n00b :-p03:50
VanessaEmega: did you see the "nVidia" logo and white screen?03:50
MegaMasterXNo........03:50
omarCVIrus than's man, but I have another quest03:50
CVirusdamn03:50
VanessaEdammit03:50
MegaMasterXOMG!03:50
steven__Hi. I'm new in here so if i gonna do somthing wrong, tell me please.03:50
VanessaE???03:51
omarCVIrus I would like to start kubuntu with that disk mounted03:51
MegaMasterXno errors!03:51
omarCVIrus automaticly you know03:51
VanessaEgood03:51
VanessaEglxin fo | grep Rendering03:51
VanessaEgah!03:51
VanessaEglxinfo | grep Rendering03:51
MegaMasterXOh awesome!03:51
VanessaE(with a capital R03:51
MegaMasterXThe game works03:51
campbchwhen someone's not busy, i'm having incredible problems installing packages that would allow me to compile things03:51
CVirusomar: you need to edit your fstab03:51
VanessaEPlease tell it is says "yes"03:51
VanessaEs/it/me03:51
omarit's that a file03:51
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omarwhere ir is03:51
VanessaE(oh I give up, I can't type!)03:51
CVirusomar: add this line at the end of your /ets/fstab03:51
MegaMasterXVanessaE: It datn't say anything....03:51
sam_could someone translate this for me? : http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/topic/421303:52
steven__I have a strange problem. I want to se the streamed news from oour public service television station03:52
VanessaEoops03:52
VanessaElowercase it03:52
MegaMasterXoh03:52
MegaMasterXIt says yes03:52
CVirusomar: /dev/hda4       /media/hda4     vfat    rw              0       003:52
MegaMasterX<3 Yay03:52
VanessaEexcellent03:52
CVirusMegaMasterX: congratulations03:52
MegaMasterXSo that's all I need to do?03:52
MegaMasterXI gotta hang around this place more to learn more stuff!03:53
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steven__I use the URL mms://WMSC.dr.dk/storage/Auto/ODPNyheder/tva/tva210020061017.wmv?WMContentBitrate=280000 but it just ignores my bitrate setting and streaming in a lot higher bitrate. What is wrong here?03:53
VanessaEbest place for him to add that chmod 1666 /dev/nvidia*  line..../etc/init.d/bootmisc  perhaps?03:53
=== MegaMasterX thanks everyone who helped, Especially CVirus and VanessaE
CVirusMegaMasterX: glxgears -printfps ... and see how many frames per second you'll get03:53
omarCVIrus is that it? , thanks buddy I will try and let you know03:53
CVirusomar: no problem03:54
campbchi need to compile and install two things, 1) my graphics drivers so that i can use widescreen resolutions, and 2) lcc for a class. I'm having problems getting packages that will allow me to build these files from adept03:54
CVirusVanessaE: you think he really needs it ?03:54
CVirusMegaMasterX: how about you reboot and see if the game still runs or not03:54
VanessaECVirus: in my case, it was necessary03:54
MegaMasterXCVirus: It runs 3 times smoother03:54
MegaMasterXwithout rebooting X03:54
VanessaEfor some reason those two device entries don't retain their perms (udev issue I guess)03:54
CVirusyeah03:55
steven__I use the URL mms://WMSC.dr.dk/storage/Auto/ODPNyheder/tva/tva210020061017.wmv?WMContentBitrate=280000 but it just ignores my bitrate setting and streaming in a lot higher bitrate. What is wrong here?03:55
campbchwhat should i do?03:55
VanessaE1666 is probably technically insecure, but he's prolly the only user so it doesn't much matter03:55
steven__Is someone able to help me?03:55
VanessaEthat's up to the website/server you're getting your stream from, steven03:56
CVirus!915resolution03:56
ubotu915resolution: resolution modify tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386)03:56
CViruscampbch: an intel card ?03:56
campbchyep03:56
campbchi have the driver03:56
campbchi just cant build anything03:57
CViruscampbch: why would you want to compile it ?03:57
campbchbecause i need to03:57
campbchto use it03:57
CViruscampbch: why dont you use the .debs ?03:57
campbchintel doesnt distribute .debs03:57
campbch?03:57
campbchi'm fairly sure it's just .tar.gz down the line03:57
campbchi've been there twice03:57
steven__Vanessa It isn't because of a malformed url?03:57
CViruscampbch: glxinfo | grep -i render03:57
CViruscampbch: what intel card exactly ?03:58
VanessaEsteven: it could be, but if the server you're streaming from doesn't like 280000 as a bitrate, it might step up or down instead03:58
campbch915 gm/gms 910 gm somethingorother it's in that family03:58
CViruscampbch: you dont need the driver from the manafacture ... there is a kernel module already03:58
steven__VanessaE > it sems to function probably under windows.03:58
campbchooookkkaayyyy then why aren't more resolutions available?03:59
VanessaEwhat app are you streaming with?03:59
CViruscampbch: lsmod | grep -i 9103:59
steven__VanessaE Mplayer03:59
VanessaEhm03:59
campbchwhat is it supposed to say/03:59
campbch?03:59
VanessaEI can only guess it's an mplayer bug - tried it with xine also?03:59
VanessaEor...03:59
campbchit says i915, that sounds like my version03:59
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steven__VanessaE and i've also tried Kaffeine03:59
VanessaEput the URL in quotes03:59
CViruscampbch: give me the lines04:00
Ashex!printer > Ash-Fox04:00
Ashexer04:00
Ashex!printer > Ashex04:00
campbch/t cvirus04:00
campbchi915                   20608  104:00
campbchdrm                    73236  2 i91504:00
campbchtc1100_wmi              6916  004:00
campbchouch04:00
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campbchsorry04:00
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campbchthought that would pm04:00
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steven__VanessaE like "mms://WMSC.dr.dk/storage/Auto/ODPNyheder/tva/tva210020061017.wmv?WMContentBitrate=280000" ?04:00
ZappixHey is it possible to choose from Windows and Kubuntu WITHOUT using GRUB?04:00
CViruscampbch: glxifno | grep render04:00
VanessaEyeah04:00
CViruscampbch: glxifno | grep -i render04:00
flaccidthank you for the dvds, shipit04:00
campbchcommand not found04:01
CVirusZappix: nope ... you need a boot loader ... either lilo or grub04:01
CViruscampbch: glxinfo | grep -i render04:01
Zappixoh ;;04:01
CViruscampbch: my typo04:01
OODyou can even use the windows boot.ini04:01
CVirusOOD: are you sure about that ?04:01
ZappixMy 74GB HDD (with Windows and Kubuntu) is acting up04:01
Zappix(and I'm missing GRUB)04:01
OODyeah its possible, but it's a lot of work for nothing really04:01
campbchdirect rendering: Yes04:01
campbchOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 2005022504:01
ZappixWhenever I go to boot, it will restart04:01
campbchthat means that i already have it installed?04:02
Zappixso I have to use a 1.9GB HDD right now -.-'04:02
CViruscampbch: yes04:02
CViruscampbch: now04:02
campbchgood to know :D04:02
steven__VanessaE I'll try Xine. I now remembered that i allready tried the quotething with no result04:02
CViruscampbch: and its functioning properly by the way04:02
CViruscampbch: now04:02
CViruscampbch: how are you trying to change your resolution ?04:02
campbchill have to look up how to grep, looks useful04:02
campbchyes, i need it to reflect widescreen04:02
campbcheverything looks stretchy right now :(04:02
campbch1280x800, i believe04:03
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RagePrblmI need to run a command ./install.sh but its giving me permission denied errors-  can anyone tell me the right command line to put in thatll give it root access04:03
CViruscampbch: how are you trying to change your resolution ?04:03
campbchsystem settings04:03
VanessaERage: what program are you installing?04:03
campbchdisplay04:03
RagePrblmdivx codecs04:03
VanessaEsudo sh ./install.sh04:04
campbchooh04:04
RagePrblmthank you! I forgotto put sh after sudo04:04
campbchwhy does it say this? graphics card i810, driver i81004:04
campbchwhen i'm a 915?04:04
CViruscampbch: this is totally correct .. dont worry04:04
campbcheither way, my only choice is 1024 x 76804:05
campbchalright04:05
ZappixD:04:05
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CViruscampbch: have you tried pressing the "Adminster mode" button ?04:05
campbchonly orieswitch tois normal, only screen is...the primary, and only screen size is 104x768...ntation04:05
campbchi was there once, to begin with04:06
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campbchit would still show tick marks on the bar at available resolutions if i were in regular user mode04:06
CViruscampbch: same here .. LOL04:07
campbchnothing is happening, i lost visuals04:07
VanessaEsteven: any luck?04:07
campbchwhat do you mean?04:07
CViruscampbch: gimme a sec04:07
CViruscampbch: I cant change my resolution too04:07
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campbchwell04:07
campbchthat makes sense :o04:07
CViruscampbch: but i'm not using a wide screen04:07
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VanessaEcan't change with ctrl+alt+plus, by chance? :)04:07
campbch=====04:08
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campbchgives me boring equality signs04:08
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steven__VanessaE I'm in the progress of installing Xine right now.04:08
VanessaEsteven: ok04:08
VanessaEcamp: was talking to CVirus, and that's the keypad plus, on the right.04:08
steven__VanessaE i'll tell you a soon as possible04:08
VanessaE(I was curious if he had run into the same bug my LjL and husband both ran into)04:09
CVirusVanessaE: not working too04:09
VanessaEeh, s/my\ LjL\ and/LjL\ and\ my/04:09
CViruscampbch: this is what you need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver?highlight=%28915%29#head-6fcd801a3621b9769f7bf9f48fa4e3ad6e25665404:10
LjLVanessaE: ah, by the way, go into system settings, regional, and keyboard layout... does it show any layouts at all?04:10
VanessaElemme look04:10
VanessaEwell it sorta does04:10
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campbchi had a feeling i810 was wrong :p04:11
CViruscampbch: its not04:11
VanessaEone layout available for the keyboard I use, f.ex04:11
campbchbut this says i need i91504:11
VanessaElots of countries on the left also.04:11
campbchthats more a philosophical question, is it wrong if it works04:11
campbchit works, it works quite well, but one works better than the other04:11
LjLVanessaE: yes, that sounds like the way it should be -- though not the way it is for me and for another user04:11
VanessaEodd04:11
LjLVanessaE: have you upgraded your packages in the last few days?04:12
VanessaEwell this is a dapper box I'm on...did you want me to check the edgy box then?04:12
CViruscampbch: nuthing is wrong .. one of them is the name of the card and the other is the chipset itself04:12
steven__VanessaE No luck. But now i can se it plays at 879 Kbit/s04:12
VanessaESteven: hrm..  I don't know what else to try off the top of my head04:12
CViruscampbch: i810 is the card and i915 is the chipset04:12
RagePrblmAnyone know an easy way to install xvid codecs04:12
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VanessaELjL: that said, yes the edgy box has been upgraded daily.04:13
kontikiHi - Can I run Skype under Dapper?  They have a .deb package, & say it is for Debian & ubuntu. That deb pkg can be downloaded by itself, but they also have an apt repository, & it says for "stable". I'm told Debian stable sw libraries are differnt from the libs in Dapper, & that sw won't run on Dapper.  So, is there a way to use Skype under Dapper?04:13
VanessaEseen at least one X update (maybe 2?) in the last week04:13
LjLoh well. i guess i'm not filing a bug then... to airy. i'm going to bed instead =)04:13
CVirus!skype04:13
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto04:13
LjLs/to/too/04:13
CViruskontiki: ^04:13
steven__VanessaE ok but thank for the try anyway. Maybe i have a more simple problem you can help me solve then?04:13
VanessaEno fix though...so we did a workaround, assigned shift-alt-KPPlus/Minus to run `xvidtune -next/-prev` :)04:13
kontikiCVirus: thanks04:13
CViruscampbch: just read the link on how to change the resolution04:13
RagePrblm?04:14
steven__VanessaE in the ubuntu handbook (on the net) it says that i am able to make a user a sudo user from within the user control panel but i cant find where i have to do this. Could you tell me?04:15
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campbchit keeps saying it cant find package?04:16
campbchfrom konqueror it gives me a utility not in your path error04:16
VanessaEI have no clue how, never had to add anyone beyond myself (default) :)04:17
VanessaEnormally, I'd use visudo from a terminal though04:17
steven__ok04:17
VanessaEif I needed to add a user04:17
VanessaEbut you gotta know the proper syntax of the config file it presents to you)04:17
campbch...04:18
CVirusgotta get some sleep04:18
VanessaE(when I said never, I meant never through KDE)04:18
VanessaEnight CV04:18
campbchi cant get it to let me install 915resolutions04:18
CVirusVanessaE: please to meet you anyway :)04:18
VanessaEand you :)04:18
steven__VanessaE sure i can put people in the sudoers file but i think there might be a graphical way to do it when the handbook state it that way. Anyway thank for your help04:18
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larson9999steven__: in the user admin gui, you can go into administer mode and then modify him.  then there is a box that says secondary groups.  that'll do it04:19
campbchok, i've gone as far as to define it explicitly in the command04:20
campbchwhat am i doing wrong?04:20
steven__Larson9999 And wich secondary group do i have to assign him then?04:20
rooobHey guys im doing a dist-upgrade to edgy, but i get a error when installing an xorg package.. can anyone help me?  output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27175/04:21
campbchsudo apt-get install 915resolutions with the 915resolution_0.5-2_i386.deb file in my home directory says that it cannot find the file, when i use the directory name, ie sudo apt-get install /home/campbch/915resolution_0.5-2_i386.deb it does not work... what is going on?04:21
rooobwhat is the best channel to ask a edgy upgrade question?04:21
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larson9999steven__: on my machine i'm in admin and i can sudo but there is a sudo group that i'm not in.  i think you can add sudo to someone and that will do it too.04:22
VanessaEhere, rooob04:22
VanessaE(but bear in mind edgy is still in development)04:22
rooobthanks VanessaE...  yep im v aware of that :)04:22
larson9999steven__: not really my strong point.  i just move people around until things work :)  probably not the best approach for the security minded person.04:22
rooobi think i can nail this package problem tho04:23
steven__larson9999:  I've tried that with no luck. I however got the sudoabillity by putting him into the adm / administrator group but is that the way i am intended to do it?04:23
larson9999VanessaE: most of the programs i run are still in dev :)04:23
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VanessaEheh04:23
steven__larson9999:  yep ;-)04:23
campbch*groan*04:24
larson9999steven__: i really don't know.  just knew where in the gui you modified the groups04:24
campbchmy screen. is stretchy. i need. to fix it. absolutely EVERYTHING i do is stopping me in some manner! why is it telling me that it cannot find the package when i have defined the name and the path of the package in every way i know how?04:24
campbchit's late, i want to fix at least SOMETHING before i hit the sack04:25
steven__larson9999:  hmmm strange. I would have expected that there was a tick saying make the user sudo but there really isn't04:25
larson9999campbch: did you do an 'apt-cache search package_name' ?04:25
steven__larson9999: Anyways thank you04:25
VanessaEwell for starters, if you're trying to install a deb you downaloded yourself, use dpkg04:25
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VanessaE:)04:25
larson9999steven__: well, sudo is in the list of groups.  i would think that adding that group would do it04:25
VanessaEdpkg -i 915resolution_0.5-2_i386.deb04:26
campbchit still cant find the package04:26
steven__larson9999: No i tried that yesterday with no luck04:26
campbchinc.... 915resolution_0.5-2_i386.deb04:26
VanessaEuse the full path to the file, and be sure you sudo of course04:26
campbchno.04:26
larson9999steven__: maybe admin is the right way.04:26
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steven__larson9999:  ok. Anyway. Thank you04:27
sam_is it possible to search for an uninstalled file with apt ?04:27
VanessaEapt-cache search <keyword>04:27
steven__sam_:  What do you mean?04:27
sam_trying to work out what package has network-admin on edgy04:28
larson9999sam_ yeah.  it searches through things that are in the repository whether they're installed or not.04:28
sam_i dont have that file04:28
campbchok,04:28
campbchcampbch@Stormbreaker:~$ sudo apt-cache search /home/campbch/915resolution.deb04:28
campbchcampbch@Stormbreaker:~$ sudo apt-get install 915resolution04:28
campbchReading package lists... Done04:28
campbchBuilding dependency tree... Done04:28
campbchE: Couldn't find package 915resolution04:28
VanessaEcamp: what exactly do you get for an error when you use dpkg?04:28
larson9999!packages04:28
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!04:28
campbchdpkg? it didnt say i needed to do that with dapper04:28
VanessaEsudo dpkg -i /home/campbch/915resolution_0.5-2_i386.deb04:28
campbchthere were like 5 methods, and dapper said just to use sudo apt-get install etc04:28
VanessaEall debian distros need that if you download your own package from someplace./04:29
larson9999campbch you need dpkg if you're not installing something from one of the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list04:29
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rooobDoes anyone have a suggestion as to what the problem with this is?04:30
rooobPreparing to replace x11-common 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (using .../x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb) ...04:30
rooobUnpacking replacement x11-common ...04:30
rooobdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):04:30
rooob trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man5/Xsession.5.gz', which is also in package xinit04:30
rooobdpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)04:30
VanessaEack!04:30
VanessaE!pastebin04:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:30
larson9999campbch maybe that tutorial earlier said something like 'add repositories' so now it thinks it should be in one of your repositories04:30
rooobsorry, wont do it again04:30
VanessaEs'ok04:30
VanessaE(that said, if you update and dist-upgrade again, it might fix that issue)04:31
rooobno it does not04:31
rooobive tried04:31
VanessaEhrm04:31
roooband -f dist-upgrade04:31
rooobdoes not work04:32
VanessaEI think -f only works with install04:32
rooobok.. well -f install does not help04:32
rooobthey all trip on this xorg package04:32
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VanessaEwhat I would do at this point then is uninstall x11-common and xinit, then do a full upgrade.04:33
rooobgood suggestion thanks04:33
VanessaE(and re-install x11-common if necessary)04:33
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rooobapt-get uninstall?04:33
VanessaEapt-get remove <package>04:33
NotWiredis it possible to install the server version from the liveCD?04:33
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dudehow do i configre my fstb04:34
VanessaE!fstab04:34
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions04:34
HawkwindNotWired: AFAIK no.  You have to download the server edition seperately if you want it04:34
VanessaEwell, bbl.  Time to pick up my husband.04:35
Jucatohi Hawkwind04:35
HawkwindJucato: Mornin sir!04:35
rooobnope.. remove does not work.. more errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27177/04:35
Jucatoevenin' to you, sir :)04:35
NotWiredokay thanks Hawkwind04:35
larson9999VanessaE: my wife says i picked her up once and it's been the other way around ever since04:35
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dudejucato: hello04:35
campbchok, it installed, but my widescreen resolution is not on the list04:35
Jucatohi dude :)04:35
campbchi believe it is 1280 x 80004:36
cpk2is there a simple way to do batch encoding? (convert 15 or so avi to mpeg2 at a time)04:36
campbchbut i am not 100% sure, how can i check?04:36
dudejuacato: what is the command     in editing fstab sudo nano????04:36
Hawkwinddude: sudo vi /etc/fstab or whatever editor you want to use04:36
cpk2looks like i could do a script with avidemux, but command line avidemux seems slightly complicated =\04:36
Jucatodude: "sudo nano /etc/fstab"04:36
rooobcpk2 there is an awesome app called ffmpeg you can convert from 1 vid to any other really easily.04:36
Jucatoor "kdesu kate /etc/fstab" if you want04:37
roooband the command line is really easy04:37
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Jucatorooob: I think cpk2 was looking for a way to "bacth encode" them04:37
Jucatocpk2: script? :P04:37
sam__what do i use to configure a usb wireless card that relies on ndiswrapper under edgy ?04:37
rooobJucato: yes.. ffmpeg + a sh file will make a good solution04:37
cpk2Jucato: but if command line ffmpeg is easy then that will be a good solution, avidemux has too many options that it could go wrong all over the place04:38
drizhey guys i need help trying to install this file i just extracted it was a tar.gz but now i don't know how to install it04:38
Jucatocpk2: well, ffmpeg also has lots of command line options that you could go wrong all over the place. hehehe04:39
cpk2well it appears that i cant even find where avidemux put the one mpeg i tried encoding =P04:40
cpk2*if* it even made it04:40
cpk2nm i found it04:40
Zaire_Awaydamnit shipit is down again04:42
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Vuenshipit is down?04:42
Zaireyeps04:42
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Vuenmmm luckily i ordered cds this afternoon04:43
holocaustozeroholitas!!!!!04:43
holocaustozeroalguien chilenensis04:43
Vuenthe reason i got into linux is because last year someone put a stack of ubuntu breezy cds in the physics society room04:43
Vuenso i figure i'd return the favor04:43
Jucatohm.. is that spanish or brazilian?04:43
Vuenonly with kubuntu instead of ubuntu (and dapper obviously)04:43
Zairelol04:44
ZaireI got into linux cause I hate winblows lol04:44
Vuenheh04:44
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JucatoI got into Linux because of Tux (the penguin)04:44
Vuenwell, i turned into a fascist linux zealot because i hate winblows04:44
Jucatolol j/k :)04:44
Vuenand because vista scares me04:44
Vuenbut i got into linux before i hated windows :)04:45
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drizZaire: i say that too but it sucks when you don't know how to install something or have some random problems04:45
drizlike now04:45
drizfor me04:45
Vuenafk watching heroes04:45
Zaireif I wanted to have a security hole the size of a semi I would build a fence around my yard and leave a big gaping hole in it04:45
ryananyone having adept problems now - repo's not available?04:46
Zaireyea linux can be tricky04:46
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ZaireI don't use adept so don't know lol04:46
ryanapt get confuses me04:46
holocaustozeroi use linux for my stydies04:46
ryancommand lines make me sleepy04:47
Zaireits not really that hard like just use apt-get install <packagename>04:47
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holocaustozerothat's very easy04:47
ryanhow do you get a list of package names?04:48
argonelapt-cache pkgnames04:50
Zaireummm wouldn't know I just go off the top of my head on what packages I want like say I want firefox I just do sudo apt-get install firefox ....if I don't know I ask lol04:50
holocaustozerofirst edit /etc/apt/ Vi source.list04:50
holocaustozerothen apt-get update04:50
holocaustozeroand you have a lot of adress where you can download anything!!!!!!04:50
holocaustozerosorry for my english04:50
holocaustozerojajajajaja04:50
campbchok, it says to change my resolution i need to have 915resolution 1280 800 32 in teh startup script, which file is that?04:50
ryani installed 915 resolution on my dell e140504:51
campbchteh was completely unintentional04:51
ryanits called "915 resolution"04:51
campbchthe program is called 915resolution04:52
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campbchi just installed it i would know >;i04:52
campbchmy GOD this is like pulling teeth04:52
campbchwhere do i put the command in the startup script?04:52
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larson9999campbch: is it one of those deals where the package installs it and modifies whatever it needs to so that if you restartx you're good to go?04:52
campbchill try restarting, but the readme says it needs to run before x04:53
campbchill brb04:53
ryan?04:53
argonelsounds like you're following non-debian instructions04:53
ryanyeah, mine was really easy.... installed, restarted x, boom... pretty screen04:53
larson9999argonel: that's kinda what i was thinking but since i've never done what he's doing i wasn't sure04:53
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larson9999deb is nice that way but it's kinda hard sometimes to find the doc that says, "the rest of the world does it a different way.  here's how we do it in deb land."04:54
argonelnor have i, but i usually find a way around editing the 'startup script' (lucky you for having just one)04:54
larson9999argonel: i think that's half the problem that newbies have.  we need a big matrix that shows how the different distros do the same thing04:55
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campbchit didn't work04:56
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campbchmy titlebar looks like blue rasberry flavored taffy.04:56
argonellarson9999: that would be a very large matrix04:56
argonelsounds yummy04:56
campbchit doesnt look it04:56
ryancampbch: where did you download the 915 res file from?04:57
campbch*sigh*04:57
argonelyou know what they say.. never eat blue food04:57
larson9999argonel: yeah.  i think that unofficial ubuntu guide is a pretty nice newbie doc04:57
campbchit was in a .deb package, from the link that cvirus gave me04:57
campbchbefore he left04:57
campbchits from the ubuntu web page04:57
campbchso it should be working04:57
campbchthe official readme says that it needs to be in a boot script04:58
campbchbut i dont know where that boot script is04:58
campbch:o04:58
campbchhow odd?04:58
campbchit should be in ... ... drumroll... /boot04:58
campbchbut its not04:58
ryanthats weird, i got mine from debian, the package script ran itself and put everything where it needs to be04:58
campbchi don't see why this isn't working...04:58
argonelcampbch: read /usr/share/doc/915resolution/README.Debian04:59
campbchtwitch twitch04:59
ryanhttp://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=915resolution04:59
campbchi went through hell04:59
campbchgetting that package installed04:59
campbchcan i install one over the other?04:59
campbchok, the first one came from ubuntu, why am i installing a debian package now? and is it safe to overwrite?04:59
ryanyeah, just replace and files when prompted04:59
larson9999campbch: are you following this:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper05:00
campbchone sec.05:00
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campbchim not getitng great connection speeds, but that's the university's wireless05:00
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ryanare you using a dell?05:01
larson9999campbch: seems like pretty clear instructions in that doc05:01
ryanit sounds like a bad package05:01
larson9999campbch: from that doc you shouldn't have needed to download the package the way you did.  it should be in one of your repositories.05:02
argonelubuntu is a subset of debian05:02
rooobhow do i clean the upgrade list in dpkg?05:02
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manjunathai cant play mp3 and avi mpeg video files please help05:03
Jucato!mp305:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:04
Jucatomanjunatha: ^^^^05:04
campbcham i allowed to start screaming and throwing things?.... :'(05:04
ryannot in public05:04
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holocaustozeroopen terminal and put apt-get install xmms05:04
Jucatocampbch: probably in #kubuntu-offtopic? heheh05:04
holocaustozeroand put apt-get install kmplayer05:04
ryanyou should use the 915 package from adept or apt-get05:04
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Jucatoholocaustozero: and if he wants to use some other player? that really doesn't solve the problem :)05:05
larson9999campbch: find ' How to Correct the Graphics Resolution' in this doc and see if that helps http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  replace gedit with nano or vi or something05:05
holocaustozerosorry05:06
ryancampbch: start screaming05:06
campbchi found it, followed it...05:06
Jucatoholocaustozero: no need to be sorry. xmms and kmplayer (actually mplayer would probably be better) are also solutions :)05:07
campbchfor the love of god05:07
larson9999vlc is nice, too imho05:07
campbchThis should add the option for that resolution to the "System>Preferences>Screen Resolution" tool.05:07
campbchIf it works correctly then you can make the change permanent:05:07
campbchsudo gedit /etc/rc.local05:07
campbchok,05:07
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campbcha) there is no such path of options05:07
campbchB) i dont have gedit05:08
campbchc) it did not add the resolution to my graphical resolution choose05:08
campbchr05:08
campbchd) wtf?05:08
larson9999campbch: take a chill pill.  i told you to replace gedit with vi or nano or whatever you want to edit it with05:08
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campbch>;(05:08
campbchforgive me, it's been 2 hours05:08
larson9999campbch: yeah, we've all been there05:09
larson9999campbch: and go back from time to time :)05:09
larson9999is this one of your cards? Intel 82830M, 82845G, 82852GM, 82855GM, 82865G, and 82915G/GM05:09
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larson9999campbch: take if from me though.  that guide is one of the best install docs for a distro i've ever seen05:10
campbchill bookmark it05:10
campbchthanks :D ill brb, need to reboot05:10
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JucatoHobbsee!! :)05:11
Hobbseehey Jucato05:11
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Jucatopetrol?05:11
larson9999gas05:13
RagePrblmDoes anyone have that link for intalling binary ati drivers again?05:14
RagePrblmIts a complete howto05:14
BonBonTheJon!ati05:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:14
RagePrblmThank you very much05:14
BonBonTheJonRagePrblm: yup05:14
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Zamboulie!k3b05:18
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto05:18
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larson9999tried out ff 2.0 + wine + flash 9 today.  finally as fast and smooth as in windows.  or at least close enough i can't tell a difference05:20
larson9999about a week before adobe puts out a pre release of flash for linux :)05:20
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Hawkwindlarson9999: There won't be any new flash for Linux until after the first of the year05:26
larson9999Hawkwind: my sources say the pre release will be out this month05:26
OODhawkwind: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/chatter.html05:27
JucatoHawkwind: still awake? :)05:27
HawkwindJucato: Yeppers05:28
Jucatoheheh05:28
HawkwindThat flash won't happen this year.  I know a couple of the devs personally and they say there are no plans til atleast February05:28
larson9999Hawkwind: not even an alpha?05:29
Hawkwindlarson9999: As I stated, nothing til after the first of the year05:30
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larson9999Hawkwind: hehe05:30
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larson9999Hawkwind: i joke that we'll get the 'wait until version 10' any day.  it was looking like that wouldn't happen.  maybe it will after all :)05:32
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maquinahola05:33
OODhi05:33
maquinazen205:33
Hawkwindlarson9999: We'll get version 9, sometime 1st quarter of 200705:33
maquinaood tengo una pregunta05:33
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OODerr.. i dont know spanish..05:34
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Jucato!es05:34
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:34
OODgood call :P05:34
larson9999Hawkwind: that swiftfox made a pretty decent different on xubuntu machine.05:37
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nonainoolaaaaaaaa05:41
nonainoalguien habla espaol05:41
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Jucato!es05:41
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:41
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nonainoJu05:42
unix_infidelgetting a lot of brazillian users too :)05:42
nonainoJucato:  muxas gacias tiooooooooo05:42
unix_infidelJucato: well, firefox already works well enough on windows.05:42
unix_infidelits just the memory footprint.05:42
Jucatoyeah.05:43
larson9999Jucato: i found some similar projects for windows but i didn't try any05:43
unix_infidelJucato: isnt swiftfox just a firefox build that's arch specific05:44
unix_infidelor does it contain some about:config hacks too?05:44
Jucatoah. well I was going after "consistency", like if I'm going to use X browser on Linux, I might as well use it on XP :P05:44
larson9999Jucato: yeah, i try to do that too.05:45
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Jucatounix_infidel: afaik, yes. I'm not sure if they have other hacks. I won't be surprised if there are :)05:45
unix_infidelJucato: i cant find anything on the website.05:46
larson9999unix_infidel: no, it's got a different logo, too :)05:46
unix_infidellarson9999: mleh :P05:46
Jucatoprobably they don't have. but wouldn't it be nice to also have an optimized build for XP :)05:46
unix_infidelJucato: how is it possible to build arch specific builds on winxp.05:47
larson9999unix_infidel: last night i called it a version of firefox and hawkwind said, "err, not it's not."05:47
Jucatounix_infidel: heh I was just wondering :)05:47
unix_infidelJucato: the code is pretty different iirc.05:47
Jucatoof course it would be :)05:48
Jucatowell, I can dream can't I :)05:48
Hawkwindswiftfox is not different from firefox, if that's what you're talking about05:49
HawkwindIt's built from the same exact code, just optimized since it's built specifically for each arch of PC available05:49
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larson9999Hawkwind: ok.  that's what i meant by calling it a version of ff.05:50
unix_infidelhmm, it looks like they just use the march=flag.05:51
HawkwindMuch more than that if you read their site05:51
Dr_willisor so they claim. :P05:51
Dr_willishow do you even benchmark how fast the browser is?05:52
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Jucatostopwatch? lol05:52
unix_infidelwell, from what i see, that's the only build flag that makes it measurably faster than regular swiftfox.05:52
larson9999Dr_willis: the best way is called the 'one one thousand, two one thousand' method05:53
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unix_infidelsure they throw in some instrution set flags, but those are insignificant.05:53
Dr_willislarson9999,  i have a extension for firefox that times web sites load times.. but that can vary on the same site.. at different times dependng on the internet/what i am doing.05:53
Dr_willis:)05:53
unix_infidelDr_willis: why not just say, "I'm using fasterfox"05:54
unix_infidel:P05:54
Hawkwindunix_infidel: They do a lot more than that.  Read the site05:54
unix_infidelHawkwind: i'm there.05:54
HawkwindFasterfox doesn't do 1/8th of what swiftfox does05:54
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JucatoHawkwind: what part of the swiftfox site?05:55
larson9999swiftfox is faster in loading and even surfing seems faster.  i really noticed a difference on my older machine running xubuntu05:55
dude_Dr_Willis: question, how do i find my downloaded application?05:55
unix_infidelUnder optimizations that's basically all i see that's worth mentioning in the arguments (build flags)05:55
Dr_willisdude_,  what did you download?05:55
JucatoDr_willis: I guess IceWeasel should be faster since it's slippery wet? :P05:55
dude_Dr_Willis: thunderbird05:55
unix_infideldude_: if you used firefox it defaulted to ~/Desktop05:55
Dr_willisdude_,  and how did you 'download' it?05:55
HawkwindI think it's in the changelog or something.  Might be Jason's blog.  I don't recall and got too many things to do than to search a site that I already know about and use the product as proof05:55
dude_adept05:55
unix_infidelHawkwind: nah, its in the build log.05:56
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unix_infidelSure its faster, but that's for most things, you can build vim 7 with s pecific gcc flag that makes it faster.05:56
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dude_Dr_Willis: adept05:56
Hawkwindunix_infidel: No.  It was a posting actually05:56
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Dr_willisdude_,  so you mean to say you INSTALLED it.. with adept.. adept then downloaded and isntalled it. - there should be an icon.. but the icon may not be in the menus yet. if the menus dident refresh right05:56
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HawkwindBahhhhhh whatever!05:56
Demolitionme podias dar los canlaes de habla espaol05:56
Demolitionpor favor05:56
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larson9999Hawkwind: well, you've never told me anything that wasn't true.  at least if you did, i wasn't smart enough to know :)05:57
Demolitionalguien habla espaol05:57
Dr_willisI forget the command to force kde to refersh the menus.. or just logouback in05:57
Jucato!es05:57
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:57
unix_infidel!es > Demolition05:57
dude_Dr_Willis: yes05:57
user___hello everyone05:57
user___was wondering how i can get k3b from one pc to another with different os05:57
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dude_Dr_Willis: tnx05:58
Hawkwindlarson9999: Thanks.  Just don't like one person stating something they don't know anything about when someone else knows differently.  It gets old :)05:58
Jucatodude_, Dr_willis : "kbuildsycoca --incremental"05:58
Dr_willisNot sure why some programs when installed.. dont refresh the menus like they should.05:58
unix_infidelholy snAP!05:58
unix_infidelvmware can do gigabit and not use the crappy pcnet32 module :)05:58
unix_infidelw00t.05:58
larson9999Dr_willis: that's happens like mad in mandriva.  well up until 2006 anyway.05:59
user___any suggestions05:59
dude_Dr_Willis: can you suggest an email client05:59
unix_infidelanyone know of xen can do the same?05:59
JucatoDr_willis: I think that problem disappeared in Edgy05:59
Jucatodude_: KMail, which is already installed05:59
Dr_willisJucato,  edgy will cure cancer also i hear. :)05:59
Jucatolol05:59
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dude_jucato: tnx05:59
Dr_willisdude_,  i check my email about once a month.. i use the various webmail services05:59
Jucatodude_: you can use KMail from Kontact.05:59
dude_k06:00
JucatoKontact is something like MS Outlook. it's under the Office menu06:00
unix_infidelDr_willis: hah, hopefully you've got it all on a pop3 client :P06:00
unix_infidelthat'd be tedious :p06:00
dude_jucato: thunderbird vs kmail?06:01
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rawrnessbtw how can i get my yahoo  with kmail?06:01
Jucatohm... hard choice. but in the end I use KMail06:01
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rawrnesswith*06:01
Jucatorawrness: freepops or yahoopops?06:01
dude_jucato: ok, kmail it is06:01
dude_tnx06:02
Dr_willisunix_infidel,  i only get about 3 real emails a month. :P06:02
Jucatodude_: lol. don't let me choose for you :)06:02
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rawrnesswhat do you mean ?06:02
user___anyone know where all the files for k3b would be on my drive?06:02
JucatoDr_willis: you ain't a member of any Mailing List, or haven't submitted bug reports?06:02
Jucatouser__: you can't just transfer k3b from one PC to another, specially if it's on a different OS06:02
Dr_willisJucato,  not really. :)  and i finially got the faimly to STOP sending me all these lame jokes/gags/funny things...06:03
Jucatorawrness: two programs that would let you direct Yahoo Mail to your e-mailclient06:03
user___ok but you see i mainly use xandros but i cant seem to figure out how to get k3b on xandros....and with kubuntu its here06:03
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rawrness!yahoo06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
rawrness!yahoomail06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yahoomail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
Jucato!yahoopops06:03
rawrnesswas worth a shot :P06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yahoopops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
Jucato!freepops06:03
ubotufreepops: POP3 interface to several webmails. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.96-1 (dapper), package size 286 kB, installed size 1184 kB06:04
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rawrnessso i install that....06:04
rawrnessthen what06:04
Jucatoer.. /me forgot... haven't used it that much :(06:04
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user___anyone know of a way to get k3b on xandros06:04
rawrnessI see06:04
Jucatouser__: Xandros should have a K3b package of its own06:04
Jucatosince it uses KDE06:05
user___could you please find it for me....i have tried and no luck so far06:05
Dr_willisuser__,  read the xandros pages.. check their package manager.. its proberly fairly easy to isntall. check #xandros as well06:05
Jucatouser__: I'm not familiar with how to install stuff on Xandros. have you tried asking for support from your distro's forums/IRC channel, etc?06:05
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Jucatolol06:07
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argoneldouble clicking on the printers icon in system settings crashes06:07
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rawrness<- rembers that there is an all knowing guru called google06:08
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Dr_willisXandros the "lets force everyone to use bittorrent  to download our free version disrto!"06:08
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rawrnessfun06:09
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rawrnesssounds scary to me06:09
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tstaffordlol06:13
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Dr_willisNOW i rember why i dont reccomend Xandros06:13
tstafford:)06:13
Dr_willistesting out Suse 10.1 at the moment.06:14
JucatoDr_willis: used the respinned CD's?06:14
tstaffordnice nice. kubuntu dapper06:14
Dr_willisJucato,  yea the remastered or whatever they just posted last week.06:14
rawrnessthinks he will give other distros a chance.06:15
argoneledgy, not very old - trying to add printer returns "client-error-bad-request". any suggestions?06:15
Dr_willisI will say SUSE does look a lot nicer as it boots then Kubuntu does.06:15
Dr_willisI dont know who designed that boot messages/animation.. but its icky. I perfer just plain text messages to it.06:15
tstafforddarn those attractive bootscreens :-/06:15
JucatoDr_willis: lucky you. they posted that just barely a week after I finished downloading all 5 CD's... :(06:15
Dr_willisJucato,  i got the dvd. :)06:15
JucatoDr_willis: I don't have a DVD writer just yet :)06:15
Dr_willisMy dvd burner started screwing up.. so i bought a new one last week.06:16
rawrnessnice06:16
Dr_willisnow if the price of DL disks would get reasonable06:16
Dr_willisDVD burner/DL 16x was like $4006:16
rawrnessi wish a dvd-dl-rw was made06:16
JucatoDL?06:16
rawrnessi would be happy ......06:16
rawrnessdual layer06:17
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JucatoDr_willis: do you recommend I download (again...) the remastered CD's? or just use the older 10.1 CD's and just update (through hell)06:17
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Dr_willisJucato,  no idea what really changed on them06:17
Dr_willisif there were updates... id hope they had the updates where you could 'update' to them. :)06:17
JucatoDr_willis: I think the YaST libxzymmmmm thingy was fixed?06:18
Dr_willisJucato,  no idea.. been using suse 10.1 for 1 day now. :)06:18
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Jucatolol :)06:18
Dr_willis#suse is a bit dead06:18
JucatoDr_willis: maybe they moved to #opensuse? (just guessing) :P06:18
tstaffordand the channel too06:18
tstafford;)06:18
Dr_willisJust exploring the disrto.. they got some nice things.. but a lot of it is 'work in progress stuff'06:19
Dr_willislike their xgl and xen, and apparmour stuff..06:19
avagantDownloading 5 cd's for one os. Cha ya know what? uh uh.06:19
rawrnessi have a 5 gig swap :P06:19
Dr_willisthe docs sort of imply that ' heres a new feature. we are still improving it'06:19
Jucatoavagant: do you know how many CD's Debian has? :)06:19
Zaireare they upgrading the launchpad or something?06:19
JucatoDr_willis: considering that XGL and Xen are "beta" stuff...06:19
larson9999you don't have to dl 5 cds.  you can do just one.06:19
avagantI noticed it was probably alot. I'm glad I didn't make a sudden switch.06:20
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Zairedebian has 15 cd's06:20
Dr_willisJucato,  yep. but they mention the features as a main 'feature'06:20
Zaireor 2 dvd's06:20
Jucatoavagant: 12 total I think. but of course, you don't need all of them. just as you don't need all 5 Suse CD's if you know which packages go where06:20
tstaffordlol @ deb06:20
JucatoDr_willis: a main "selling" feature06:20
Jucatos/12/1506:20
Zaireactually debian has 1506:20
avagantYah I'm glad I stuck to Ubuntu.06:20
avagantI don't have the time, or the patience for that.06:21
Zairelol its debian based so what the hell lol06:21
Dr_willisJucato,  they aint getting any more $$ from me. :P06:21
avagantBut it's one cd :D06:21
kontikiHi - Will you help me test my skype account? I've just set it up, verified it works with the checkout program. Do you have skype on now, & can connect?06:21
Zaireexactly lol06:21
Jucatolol06:21
avagantI'm not a patient man.06:21
Zaireshipit is still down :S06:21
JucatoZaire: confirmed. launchpad is down06:22
HawkwindNo need for shipit until the 26th of this month anyways :P06:22
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kontikiAnyone here have a skype account?06:22
JucatoHawkwind: they won't ship Edgy :P06:22
HawkwindJucato: Says who ?06:23
JucatoSays Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter06:23
Dr_willisBy the time you get your shipit cd's - the next release is out!06:23
Jucatothey will only ship Dapper06:23
avagantI'm afraid to try Edgy, I'm barely getting a grasp on Kubuntu/Ubuntu.06:23
HawkwindWhy on earth would they do that06:23
Jucatobut they will give out Edgy CD's to some LoCo teams06:23
JucatoHawkwind: because Dapper is LTS, and Edgy is edgy?06:23
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avagantI tried that whole compiz thing and it ruined my x server.06:24
Jucatoavagant: well, you don't have to do that in Edgy :)06:24
avagantI had to switch to Kubuntu just to get something to work right.06:24
avagantAnd even Kubuntu isn't working 100 percent for me, so I must have done something.06:24
avagantIt keeps complaining about calls to the xserver, like when I start up kate.06:24
avagantOr Kwrite06:25
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Hawkwindavagant: Edgy is no different really.  I've been using it for over a month now06:25
HawkwindJucato: So they should ship me some for my LUG then :)06:25
Dr_willisYea - im bebatng installing Edgy soon.. or just going to Debian. :) (ick!) heh heh06:25
HawkwindTroll!06:25
HawkwindHah06:25
lnxkdeHawkwind: sup!?06:25
Jucatoheh06:25
Hawkwindlnxkde: Taxes and rent.  Care to pay them for me :P06:26
avagantI didn't think Edgy would be.06:26
Dr_willisavagant,  post the error message or 2..  theres a common message.. thats due to the touchpads being configured in the xorg.conf file06:26
avagantMaybe I should wait and skip a few new releases.06:26
JucatoHawkwind: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14#head-1e3555bea7bd06018bbadcf89ed23281e09d78f106:26
avagantI don't like upgrading and then finding out that nothing has really changed.06:26
avagantUpgrade means new to me.06:27
tstaffordHas anyone used project looking glass?06:27
unix_lappyavagant: take a look at the changelogs and you'll find what has changed.06:27
unix_lappytstafford: Project LookingGlass isnt linux.06:27
unix_lappyits BSD / Solaris.06:27
tstaffordi know, i was just asking.06:27
Jucatoavagant: of course many things have changed. but Hawkwind is crazy in a way :P06:27
tstaffordWell there's all sorts of clients for it06:27
lnxkdeHawkwind: only if you tell me whats up with ulteo ;)06:27
unix_lappytstafford: well, fine, but if you want to run LookingGlass you really should be running solaris.06:28
unix_lappyAnd i couldnt possibly find a reason to run solaris other than as a server :P06:28
tstafford:)06:28
avagant!pastebin06:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:28
Hawkwindlnxkde: No can do.  Top secret stuff, sorry :(06:28
unix_lappytstafford: The answer to your question is, yes, solaris is slow, and LookingGlass is no better.06:28
tstaffordThanks :)06:29
avagantWell this is for starters of what happens when I open up kwrite http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27180/06:29
unix_lappyIf you REALLY want to try it out, try the live cd and see if you like the interface.06:29
lnxkdeHawkwind:  well I still love you ;)06:29
Jucato!baddevice06:29
ubotubaddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.006:29
lnxkdeHawkwind: did the e17 debs got stable?06:29
Jucatoavagant: ^^^^^06:29
rawrnessanyone have any info about kbfx06:29
avagantAnd then when I open up Kate.06:30
Dr_willis!info kbfx06:30
ubotukbfx: a new K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8+cvs20060413-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 193 kB, installed size 804 kB06:30
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avagantActually kate is the same thing.06:30
rawrnessyes i know its a menu but has any one used it?06:30
avagantThere was some message earlier about ksomething not being found and DCOP was yelling at me.06:30
Jucatoavagant: those error messages are basically harmless06:31
Dr_willisavagant,  X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168   - is due to the touchpad in the xorg.conf06:31
Jucatoat least the BadDevice ones06:31
avagantDr_willis: Touchpad?06:31
Dr_willisavagant,  YES.. for the 4th time.. the xorg.conf has a default entry for a touchpad.. dont ask me why..06:31
Jucatoavagant: X.org in Kubuntu is set to enable touchpad by default06:31
Dr_willis :)06:31
Dr_willisdont ask me why.06:31
avagantDr_willis: So what do I do, remove it?06:31
Jucatoto accomodate as much hardware as possible "by default"06:32
Dr_willisthats what i do.06:32
Dr_willisor not worry about it.06:32
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Dr_willisthe errors mean nothing.06:32
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Jucatoavagant: the errors are harmless. Kate and Kwrite still startup, don't they?06:32
Dr_willisI got a list of 'things' i do - to get  ubuntu tweaked in :)06:32
avagantOk, I just never noticed it before.06:32
avagantYah they still do.06:32
Dr_willisUbuntu does some silly things at times.. Like that.06:32
avagantI used Kubuntu with Ubuntu before, and never noticed any of those error messages.06:32
Dr_willisIts been in there since dapper. as far as i know06:33
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avagantWell maybe I wasn't paying attention.06:34
Dr_willis:)06:34
avagantWho knows, I just don't want mr computer to be anymore unhappy than it already is.06:34
Dr_willisgo buy it some nice toys...06:34
Dr_willisand give it a hug06:34
Jucatoor you weren't trying to launch apps from the command line?06:35
avagantJucato: Maybe not.06:35
avagantThe cdrom drive is acting really really funny now, but I guess it's my fault for using Craigslist as a shopping market.06:35
Dr_willisjust think of all the wasted cpu cycles! printing out those messages06:35
Dr_willis:)06:35
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avagantPlus I want something with more HD, 20gb on 2 hd's is not enough for me. :D06:36
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Jucato_gah! what happened?06:36
Dr_willisI got more porn then that! :P06:36
Dr_williserr.. vacation pics..06:36
yellowtimeHello room where are most of you from?06:36
avagantHahaha.06:36
avagantWell I use one for the main installation and the other for my "media"06:36
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avagantBut I've already used like 3gb's so I need to think of a better plan here soon.06:37
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yellowtimehello room06:37
avagantShame my Mac had 40gb's on one drive and I got rid of it. We could have done some great things me and that Mac.06:38
timthelionhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257843 I am having this problem. unfortunatly, I have invested so much in this system, that I am unwilling to reinstall. any way I could go about fixing it?06:39
rawrnessfun i reinstall weekly it appears06:40
avagantYah is there a recommended sources.list for kubuntu or could it be the same as the ubuntu one on the forums? Because I've been looking.06:40
timthelionrawrness: are you making fun of me?06:40
Dr_willis!easysource06:40
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:40
rawrnessnope06:40
dude_!printers06:41
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:41
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timthelionno one seems to know how to help me :(06:41
rawrnessmore making fun of self than anything06:41
avagantrawrness: I don't reinstall out of choice, but my typical is at least once a week.06:41
rawrnessMe to06:41
rawrnessi wish i would get tit right the first time06:41
Dr_willistimthelion,  you could put a summary of the problem hwere.. so everyond dont have to fire up a web briwser to read forum message.06:42
avagantrawrness: Usually by the time I get settled into an installation it's more I screw things up so bad that I have to.06:42
rawrnessbut i think i got it06:42
rawrnesswell thats fun to06:42
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timthelionwell, when I run a gtk app. it closes immediately reporting a segmentation fault.06:42
Dr_willistimthelion,  so its crashing. :)06:42
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timthelionyes06:43
timthelionevery single one06:43
Dr_willistimthelion,  #1 thing to test.. create a new user... see if the issue affects that new user as well.06:43
timthelionfirefox. gftp, gnome,...06:43
avagantOuch, I had a problem with that, only with alsa and esd.06:43
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avagantDo you know what happened, or if you did something timthelion?06:43
timthelionwell, I installed gnome06:43
timthelionand it worked06:43
timthelionthen it didn't06:43
timthelionI was messing around with a bunch of the accessabuility stuff, and theems06:44
avagantAnd poof?06:44
timthelionyes06:44
timthelionwell06:44
timthelionyou are right about the user thing06:44
avagantI find that if I mess around with anything and think I'm hot crap that's when I have the most problems.06:44
timthelionI can do sudo gftp06:44
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Dr_willistimthelion,  if your gnome settings are to blame you can delete that users .gnome* and .gconf* dirs to resset them all back to defaults.06:45
timthelionso how do I fix my profile?06:45
timthelionok06:45
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avagantI always ready EVERYTHING before I do anything, anymore.06:47
avagantBy now I know how to mount a hd, configure my alsa, and do about 300 other things but believe me timthelion, the amount of times I've had to reinstall is kind of ridiculous.06:48
avagantI've had Ubuntu for maybe 3 weeks.06:48
Dr_willislearn how to trouble shoot and fix. :)06:48
Dr_willisreduces the # of reinstalls06:48
avagantToo impatient.06:48
avagantHaha.06:48
avagantI guess I don't know how to troubleshoot right. I fought my soundcard for 2 months on Windows, so maybe I"m just wore out.06:48
timthelionyay.06:49
timthelionthanx06:49
avagantPop in Ubuntu disc, sound out of the box. It's just the alsa ordeal and everything that had me going.,06:49
timthelionrm .gtk* did the trick06:49
avagantHurray!06:49
Dr_willisfor sound cards - it pays to splurge on a nice Creative card06:49
Dr_willis:)06:49
avagantSplurge is what I do best, when I have money.06:50
avagantUnfortunetly, I have none.06:50
Dr_willis'Would you like fries with that glutton bucket sir?"06:51
Dr_willis:)06:51
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rawrnessAvagant: At least you have had money06:51
avagantYah 6 months ago. Hahahaha06:52
avagantEvery now and again I have 20 dollars or so, that's always nice.06:52
rawrnesstakes me about 2 months to get 20 bucks :P06:53
avagantHoly crap.06:53
rawrness2 years it took me to afford my crapy 300 $ emachine06:54
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avagantHahaha I feel sorry.06:55
cpk2Jucato: I finally finished my script to batch encode .avi =P06:55
avagantHow about flv. Haha.06:55
rawrnessfun06:55
rawrnessI am stuck converting all my vids in windows06:56
rawrnesscause i love super (c) so much.06:56
avagantI want to convert my flv videos without them taking up 3gb's of HD.06:57
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glutGlobecan somebody help me figure out why I have an open port on my machine, but no pid matched to it?06:58
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avagantbtw, youtubeget is quite possibly the best firefox extension ever.06:58
rawrnessvideodownloader :P06:59
Jucatocpk2: sorry I was away. that's great! how is it?07:00
avagantI need to learn how to bash script.07:00
avagantThat's right, that's something I wanted to do.07:00
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klerfaytso I can run beryl without xgl in edgy then using latest nvidia drivers?07:03
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BonBonTheJonanyone know how to use kdesvn07:04
user___anyone here have any experience with other os'?07:04
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BonBonTheJonuser___: what do you mean07:05
cpk2Jucato: it works great, and i got it down to 1 line =D07:05
dbgltok07:05
avagantI've used Mac, and was frustrated with it. Mostly a Windows user, now kind of converted to Linux but not sold yet.07:05
Jucatocpk2: nice :)07:05
user___well was just wondering which of the hundreds of penguins is the best07:05
dbglton updating to edgy, my openoffice font looks really dodgy07:05
dbgltany way to fix this?07:05
cpk2Jucato: perl took a little longer than i was hoping hehe07:05
Jucatoyou tried to use perl?07:06
cpk2is there anything else that can get stuff done in one line?07:06
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Jucatoheh :)07:06
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Zaireanyone know why the shipit launchpad is down?07:06
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cpk2Jucato: room mate has a perl oreilly book =)07:07
Jucatoah07:07
glutGlobeZaire: I dunno but it was down yesterday this time also07:07
cpk2little reading never hurt anyone07:07
Healotit's down alright07:07
HawkwindZaire: It's not down here07:07
HawkwindI just got to LP07:07
Zairethats odd07:08
Jucatoit was down for me a few minutes ago. now it's up again07:08
user___so any opinions on the best linux?07:08
glutGlobe?07:08
Jucatouser__: "best" is usually what works for you and what you want/need07:08
Hawkwinduser___: Use many different distros and then decide what's best for *YOU*07:08
Zairesame here07:08
Jucatoother people's opinions will forever remain as opinions07:08
Zairewierd07:09
HawkwindIf there was a *best* there would only be one07:09
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glutGlobeuser___: I have seen people get into big fights after questions like that....07:09
avagantThat's what I should do, go learn some perl.07:09
user___but thats alot of install uninstall dont you think07:09
cpk2well since this is #kubuntu...07:09
Jucatouser__: then I recommend you try out Live CD's07:09
Hawkwinduser___: Live CD's are available for almost every distro now days.  No installing needed07:09
cpk2kubuntu is the best linux!07:09
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Hawkwindcpk2: Again, that's a personal opinion07:09
Jucatoavagant: hm... a while ago you said bash, now perl :P07:10
ZaireIve used many and find ubuntu, kubuntu and debian the best07:10
Jucatocpk2: for Hawkwind, e17buntu is the best :P07:10
Zairemy only prob with debian is it has a major prob with skype07:10
avagantJucato: I can't make up my mind.07:10
HawkwindBahhhhhhhh, Ebuntu doesn't seem like it's ever going to happen07:10
glutGlobeuser___: if you are looking for something to get up and running quick, besides a live cd, go with *buntu07:10
cpk2Hawkwind: i know, but like i said since this is #kubuntu you would think most people would say kubuntu is the roxxor07:10
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Jucatoavagant: well, you could always study both, but I don't recommend studying both at the same time :)07:10
cpk2e17buntu?07:10
Hawkwindcpk2: Ebuntu....Ubuntu based on the E17 window manager07:11
avagantJucato: I've "tried" to dabble in ruby, python, and c. But really didn't get far at all.,07:11
Jucatocpk2: my bad, it's Ebuntu :)07:11
rawrnessjust like qwerty and dvorak at the same time :P07:11
Zaireedubuntu?07:11
glutGlobeavagant: I would say perl.  Its pretty flexible for things outside the term07:11
Jucatoavagant: I guess it depends on what you ultimately plan to do. to develop or just a hobby07:11
glutGloberawrness: :-)07:11
JucatoZaire: edubuntu is Educational Ubuntu. Ebuntu is Enlightenment Ubuntu07:11
avagantJucato: Honestly, I really don't know.07:11
Zaireah07:11
Jucatoavagant: hm.. I'd categorize that as "hobby" :)07:12
cpk2haha i dont think you would want to develop in perl07:12
avagantWait there's a EBUNTU too.07:12
Jucatoavagant: 3rd party/community project07:12
ZaireI tried enlightenment in mandrake and it sucked then...also that was v9.2 aswell07:12
Hawkwindavagant: It's been started, just not coming along very well07:12
Jucatonot really affiliated with Canonical07:12
glutGlobethe other side of that is that perl can be very hard to read....07:12
cpk2Hawkwind: is e17 a "light weight" windows manager?07:12
HawkwindZaire: That was enlightenment, not E17.  They are two different things07:12
JucatoI was looking forward to Ebuntu, until I fell madly in love with KDE07:12
Zairegood lol07:12
Hawkwindspoop: Yes.  get-e.org to read about it yourself07:12
avagantI used KDE for a little bit when I first got ubuntu.07:13
avagantIt was eating up my computer alive.07:13
HawkwindHah07:13
avagantSo I opted to just install it clean by itself and see how that works.07:13
HawkwindGood ole DE for ya :P07:13
Jucatoheh07:13
cpk2glutGlobe: *can be* very hard to read? you mean pretty much is always hard to read? =P07:13
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JucatoHawkwind: btw, for Edgy, I might try my minimal install again :)07:13
Jucatonight Hawkwind! :)07:13
avagantI want to make cool scripts to make things easier on myself.07:14
glutGlobecpk2: well...you get the hang of it after a while (of staring at the same program).07:14
cpk2I am going to try to learn a little bit of setting up a lamp before edgy comes out then install a lamp with edgy07:14
rawrnesswhat would i learn to make .bat scripts ?07:14
avagantOr just full around and make stupid little windows that pop up and say "Hello World" haha.07:14
Jucatoavagant: scripts? you best go with bash or python then. just imho07:14
cpk2avagant: well perl sure is "cool" hehe one line scripts ftw07:14
rawrnessthat neverclose07:15
Jucatorawrness: bash07:15
rawrnesskk07:15
glutGlobeavagant: if thats your goal then you might just stay off perl (cool scripts to save time)07:15
JucatoglutGlobe: stay off or stay with?07:15
avagantEh, maybe I should just try a little of each.07:15
rawrnessJunato know any resources that may help?07:15
glutGlobeJucato: off...perl is hard to learn.07:16
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avagantIt's just all the terminology that kind of throws me off.07:16
JucatoglutGlobe: ah ok :)07:16
Jucatoavagant: that's why it needs to be learned :)07:16
avagantHaha, me no good at learn.07:16
Jucatoknowledge comes with a price. that price is effort :)07:16
glutGlobeJucato: i have spent 4 years learning and still wonder most of the time.07:16
glutGlobe;-)07:16
rawrnessor dead peoples memories :P07:16
Jucatoglol07:17
rawrnessI love wheel of time.07:17
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rawrnesslol07:17
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rawrnessI wonder how many full  pages   you can print with thouse laser printers that use toner before yoou run out.07:18
Zairehow is sec on shipit?07:18
glutGloberawrness: ?07:19
JucatoZaire: ?07:20
Zairehow is sec on shipit?07:21
rawrnesslaser printers toner, how many full pages of text07:21
rawrness:P07:21
JucatoZaire: sec = security?07:21
Zaireyep07:21
Jucatohm.. seems to be ok07:21
JucatoI haven't received any spam mail if that's what you mean :)07:21
Zairejust curious07:21
ZaireI can be paranoid lol07:22
glutGlobeyou should try it.  Get a new toner (brand new...most expensive) and write a endless loop to print to it. ;-)07:22
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Zairelol07:22
rawrnessor just use the schools :P07:23
rawrnessthe teacher just refilled it07:23
Jucatolol07:23
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cpk2i know this is off topic guys but look at this http://nov.4chan.org/r/src/1161142707922.gif07:24
glutGloberawrness: I dont know what school you go to but at mine they charge $0.05/page :-( ... unless you plug good ol lappy into the printer07:24
rawrnessXD07:24
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Jucatocpk2: lol07:24
rawrnessits a small school by the cascades07:24
rawrnesswe have about a hour or two ride to get to the pass07:25
glutGlobecpk2:lol07:25
cpk2my room mate said the copier at the library was broken the other day and him and his study group spent about half their study copying a math book and some physics stuff07:25
rawrnessKill him!07:26
Zaire25 cd order lol07:27
rawrnessFun07:27
rawrnessI ordered the kubuntu live cd from canoical07:27
rawrnessand it sucked07:27
Jucatoheh07:27
rawrnessdidn't even detect my dsl stupid thing07:27
Zairejust ordered kubuntu, ubuntu and edubuntu07:27
rawrnessfun :P07:27
cpk2i've heard the kubuntu cd is lacking07:27
Zairemy server is using it lol07:28
rawrnessWhat makes me madder07:28
rawrnessis i gave away abunch of cds07:28
rawrnessi might of just turned a bunch of people away :(07:28
cpk2with a live cd people dont get to experience the awesomeness of apt-get anyways07:29
ZaireI figure I can use the distro's that run gnome as coasters while the ones running kde can stay safe in the cd wallet lol07:29
Jobberwackyyou can do what you want07:29
Zaireactually you can use apt-get in the live cd lol07:30
rawrnessstrange  just found 2 gutair picks in my pocket07:30
rawrnessi havn't touched mine in months.07:30
cpk2not even windows has getting apps as easy it is in apt-get07:30
Zairethats cause windows apps aren't free lol07:30
glutGloberawrness: you....are really random07:30
rawrnessTHats me07:30
rawrnessthemanwhosaysrawr07:30
rawrnessthats my new email adress07:31
glutGlobecpk2: did you just....wait.  no you didnt.07:31
cpk2lol07:31
rawrnessVery strange person.07:31
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rawrnesswell now i retire to sleep perhaps tomorow everyones07:32
rawrnesssleep  well and wake07:32
glutGloberawrness: indeed...class tomorrow!07:32
avagantHow do you restart X? or even stop it? Reboot?07:32
glutGlobeavagant:ctrl-alt-bksp07:33
Healotsudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop07:33
glutGlobe(from the xwin)07:33
Healotdo that in a tty07:33
Jucato"sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" works too :)07:34
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avaganttty?07:34
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globelol07:34
globetty=terminal window (no graphical-ness)07:34
Jucatoavagant: to restart X, "ctrl+alt+backspace"07:34
Jucatoavagant: to stop X, Ctrl+Alt+F1,then type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" or the command that Healot gave07:35
avagantAh, I was gonna try this thing for the error device comments I keep getting.07:35
Jucatoavagant: ah you just need to restart X I think07:35
avagantCept it says 148?? on the page mine is 145.07:35
Jucatoavagant: the Device number varies07:35
cpk2ctrl-alt-backspace is not a nice way to restart x07:36
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avagantIt really doesn't matter, considering kate and kwrite still run.07:36
avagantBut it kind of freaked me out, since I just installed KDE like 5 hours ago.07:36
cpk2avagant: what is the problem?07:37
Jucatocpk2: of course a longer way is: K Menu -> Logout/End Session -> Login Screen menu, Restart X Server07:37
Jucato!baddevice07:37
ubotubaddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.007:37
Jucatothat one ^^^^^07:37
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cpk2oh the wacom tablet thing?07:37
avagantcpk2: That yah.07:37
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avagantI was wondering to myself how I managed to screw up ANOTHER install.07:38
cpk2Jucato: the annoying thing with my kdm stop/restart on my laptop is that it would randomly lose my display07:38
Jucatocpk2: um.. it should actually. because it stops KDM07:38
cpk2Jucato: I would have to switch to tty log in and reboot blindly =P07:38
cpk2Jucato: my display would get no output in any tty07:38
globecpk2: I get the same problem about 1 in 507:38
Jucatooh07:38
cpk2i literally logged in and rebooted blindly07:39
cpk2and I have no clue what caused it07:39
cpk2I have stopped doing init.d/kdm stop/restart from konsole07:40
avagantI had the problem where I was trying to install compiz and all that crap in Ubuntu, and suddenly couldn't get any graphics out of gdm.07:40
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avagantBut I did everything by the book.07:40
Jucatocpk2: that explains it then07:40
globeug.07:40
avagantAnd that is why I am on Kubuntu today. :D07:40
cpk2Jucato: is that a bad thing to do?07:40
Jucatocpk2: afaik, definitely07:41
cpk2oh, oops07:41
cpk2umm how so?07:41
Jucatocpk2: you usually stop/restart kdm from a tty07:41
avagantBut guys I want bouncy stretchy applications and transparent everything.07:41
Jucatobecause you're abruply stopping kdm?07:41
avagantThat whole cube thing is pretty lame, I don't know why people would want that.07:41
JucatoI'm not sure about the technical reasons. but experience tells me it's bad07:42
intelikeycpk2 & Jucato what's the issue ?07:42
globeavagant: you want fancy graphics yet you IRC?07:42
cpk2well my experience tells me its bad too haha07:42
avagant:D07:42
Jucatolol07:42
Jucatointelikey: no issue here. just discussing :)07:42
avagantI just want transparent everything.07:42
avagantHaha.07:42
avagantI tried fluxbox, but that was a no go.07:42
avagantI have about this (makes tiny motion) experience doing anything computer wise.07:43
intelikeyJucato i assumed it was cpk2's issue and you were helping him ?   no?07:43
cpk2intelikey: just wondering why I would completely lose display output when i did /etc/init.d/kdm stop/restart from a konsole07:43
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cpk2i dont do it anymore since it is annoying to have to log into a tty blindly and then blindly sudo reboot07:43
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avagantIs it easy to install themes, or as hard as I hear it is?07:44
cpk2nevermind the fact that rebooting itself is annoying =P07:44
avagantThat you have manually extract them into a folder?07:44
cpk2avagant: there is a theme manager07:44
cpk2that reads tars07:45
intelikeyah cpk2 because killing kdm sends the kill sig to everything xinit has running.   among the things xinit is controling is xorg07:45
globeavagant: easy07:45
avagantIs it as easy as Ubuntu?07:45
avagantDrag tar into themes, your theme is there?07:45
cpk2intelikey: but I dont get output in tty107:45
Jucatoavagant: nope.but you don't have to extarct the tar :)07:45
user___any idea why when i choose to boot from cd it just boots kubuntu instead07:45
avagantOh sweet.07:45
cpk2avagant: download and then tell the theme manager where it is. then it does the rest07:45
avagantBut you can't drag and drop?07:45
Jucatoavagant: nope :P07:46
globewhat irc client do you use?07:46
cpk2drag and drop to where?07:46
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avagantDangit.07:46
Jucatocpk2: themes, like in GNOME07:46
cpk2i've never used gnome lol07:46
Jucatoavagant: btw, KDE handles themes quite differently compared to GNOME07:46
avagantWell that sucks, I guess I'm just lazy.07:46
avagantglobe: Konversation07:46
avagantIt's the only one I actually like.07:46
cpk2avagant: I dont think you realize how easy themes are handled in kde?07:47
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cpk2avagant: just make sure you have kdmtheme installed first07:47
avagantWell I guess if I just make a "theme" folder and send the theme manager there.07:47
intelikeycpk2 there shouldn't be any output from a kdm restart issued in a console, except the   two printf lines   "stopping....  [ok]  && starting.... [ok] "07:47
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Jucatoavagant: basically, the reason why it's so easy to theme GNOME is because you basically (keyword: basic) only have one window decoration engine (Metacity's) and one widget style engine (GTK+)07:47
Jucatocpk2: err... kdmtheme is for installing graphically KDM themes07:47
Jucatoonly07:48
avagantWhat's the best one for the most awesome themes?07:48
cpk2intelikey: *display* output as in the monito has no signal07:48
avagantThese things, I need to know.07:48
cpk2Jucato: didnt he say kdmtheme?07:48
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Jucatocpk2: no. he just said "theme"07:48
avagantAnd added, "best"07:48
Jucatolol07:48
cpk2avagant: then ignore what i was saying =X07:48
avagant:D07:48
Jucato"best" is very subjective. you won't be able to get accurate answers07:49
intelikeycpk2 are you saying "you can not access tty1?"07:49
avagantUm.07:49
Jucato"best" would be what works for you, what you like, what you want, what you need :)07:49
avagantI didn't know you could do transparent things in KDE until I discovered it and now my menu's are basically see through.07:49
cpk2intelikey: everything still works but the monitor gets no signal07:49
avagantI need....awesome.07:49
avagantIt really doesn't matter.07:50
cpk2intelikey: basically i just type r e a l l y carefully to reboot07:50
avagantLord knows in like 3 days I'll have to reinstall.07:50
avagantThat's the current trend.07:50
cpk2since i cant see what I am typing07:50
Jucatoavagant: not if you're careful :)07:50
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globecpk2: you wern't kidding when you said blind07:51
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intelikeycpk2 the vga= line is wrong for your monitor.  edit your boot loader (probably grub) adding vga=0x0f05  that should always give text in console.07:51
globebe glad you aren't in my shoes...dvorak on a qwerty kbd...my letters mean absolutly nothing07:51
globe*ely07:51
avagantSo is there something I need to "apt get"?07:51
javacoderhas anyone run a subversion server from ubuntu?07:51
cpk2intelikey: so doing /etc/init.d/kdm stop/restart isnt a bad thing after all?07:53
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Jucatocpk2: not if you do it in tty, afaik :P07:53
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intelikeycpk2 what i'm saying is it's a "frame buffering issue."   so if you don't use frame buffering for the console you don't even need to fix the issue.      be advised that you will have text display bootup, but consoles will work and it wont affect the gui at all07:53
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intelikeycpk2 NO. /etc/init.d/kdm stop/restart isnt a bad thing07:54
avagantI just don't want to do anything that's going to screw me up and make me have to reinstall.07:54
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cpk2intelikey: i'm talking about /etc/init.d/kdm stop/restart from konsole though not tty07:54
intelikeyfrom konsole it may cause issues,  one being if your graphic session (kde) saves and restores it's state,  then when it starts it will try to restore the konsole and possably the kdm command.   that would be bad.07:56
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intelikeyaside from that.  i know of no major issues that it would cause.07:57
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intelikeybtw. kde can be set to NOT restore sessions.07:58
cpk2i like restoring sessions07:58
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cpk2I enjoying knowing which desktop amarok will always be in, where kmail is, where konversation is..07:59
cpk2i'm sure you get the picture07:59
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intelikeywell that is the only risk that i am aware of.07:59
Jucatocpk2: you can always set apps to launch in a specific desktop08:00
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cpk2but then i would have to open them =P08:00
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cpk2and gaim refuses to listen to anything i tell it to08:00
cpk2it gaves to whatever darn desktop it wants08:01
Jucatolol :)08:01
intelikeyor even save a particular setup as the default and have kde to always load the default08:01
avagantSo themes?08:01
cpk2avagant: like icon themes?08:02
avagantJust overall themes.08:02
avagantIf that includes transparency, osx like, whatever. I need the creme le crop even though my computer sucks.08:02
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cpk2well i think you would need to go to more than one area but go to system settings then appearance08:03
intelikeykcontrol08:04
cpk2i just set up a kdmtheme and backgrounds and that is all the prettyness i need08:04
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avagantBut is there something special I should apt-get or anything like....gtk or something?08:04
intelikeykcontrol themes08:04
cpk2you mean qt?08:04
avagantis it qt here? i thought it was gtk or something, who knows.08:04
cpk2qt is to kde as gtk is to gnome08:04
avagantRigheous.08:04
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cpk2and you should already have qt installed with kde08:05
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intelikeykinda hard to install kde without qt08:05
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avagantI used KDE briefly like a month ago, so I have no idea.08:06
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zardushello08:07
zardushas anyone ever had trouble booting after adding a SATA controller?08:07
intelikeykcontrol is your friend08:07
peteryuhello08:07
intelikeyzardus im sure someone has.08:07
Jucatoor System Settings (as long as you stay away from .kth/KDE Theme Manager files)08:07
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intelikeyJucato isn't "System Settings" == kcontrol   :)08:08
Jucatointelikey: of course not :P08:08
intelikeyzardus what exactly is it not/doing ?    and to you get error messages ?08:09
JucatoSystem Settings is a simplified and reorganized KControl :)08:09
cpk2does lspci show the controller?08:09
zardusintelikey: well, I put the SATA controller in, and I plugged in 3 drives into it. On bootup, it comes up with the SATA controller bios, detects the 3 drives, then goes on to boot from my PATA drive, loads stage 1.5 in Grub, says "Please wait..." and hangs08:10
intelikeyhmmmm grub08:10
zarduswell, the interesting thing is that the kubuntu CD won't boot when those drives are hooked up either08:11
intelikeydrives bios is changed so you will have to reinstall grub i think08:11
zardusneither does Damn Small Linux08:11
intelikey!grub08:11
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:11
zardusWell, the thing is... I can't boot anything while the drives are hooked up08:11
zardusI can unplug the drives, leave the controller in, and boot no problem08:12
zardusbut with the SATA drives plugged in, nothing will boot. Just hangs there08:12
zardusI did reinstall grub just in case08:13
zardusbut no good :-(08:13
avagantHooly everything got like 30 times bigger.08:13
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intelikeyi'm not a grub fan, can't even use it on this boxen so...    but i can tell you that all you need bios for is to access the boot disk (what ever it is.)  after that linux can take over.   so disabling everthing you can in bios may help.08:13
zardusintelikey: good idea, I'll try that08:14
ian_does kubuntu have opera? and will  it have no problems running gcompris? im new to linux... sorry for the noob questions...08:14
cpk2hooray someone fixed a kdmtheme that I have been wanting to get but wasnt working =D08:14
intelikeyian_ opera is not in the standard repositories.  it is avalable tho.08:15
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intelikey!opera08:16
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser08:16
avagantOk now everything is huge what did I do.08:16
intelikeyavagant changed font size i'd guess08:16
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ian_intelikey but it is in the synaptic right? really sorry im looking for a distro.... and im really new so im really overwhelmed on what to use....08:16
intelikeypossably rez... ?08:16
intelikeyian_ see ubotu ^08:17
cpk2avagant: try ctrl-alt-minusonnumbpad08:17
cpk2or is he not talking about res?08:17
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intelikeycpk2 i think a theem did it to him08:18
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intelikeyso prolly font size08:18
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ErtainMy display settings (for when my monitor shuts off) are not saved when I log off.  Any ideas?08:18
intelikeyErtain kde can be set to save automaticly the settings   kcontrol is your friend.08:20
intelikeyaka kmenu > System Settings > *08:21
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Jucatohmm.. I think that was a bug in KDE 3.5.2 and KDE 3.5.4?08:21
ErtainYeah, I think it was a bug, too.08:21
intelikeypossably-ossably-ossably08:22
flaccidpossible to install kubuntu from by booting from usb flash drive or floppy then install from cd (can't boot from cdrom)?08:23
ErtainEven if I use Kcontrol it doesn't save.08:23
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pacmananyone know if there is a channel for GIMP?08:24
ErtainI think there's #gimp, but I don't know for sure.08:24
manjunathahow to get only cannoinical updates in apt08:24
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intelikeysettings in /etc/apt/sources.list08:25
intelikey!repos08:25
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:25
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intelikeyi'm not sure that that link is apropose08:26
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Jucato<ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories08:28
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zardusBah, crap08:29
zardusIt gets to the boot point faster, but still no boot :-(08:29
intelikeyzardus were these new or used drives ?08:29
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zardusnew drives08:31
intelikeynot raid then....08:32
zardusthe SATA controller can do raid, but right now it is supposed to just be presenting them as 3 separate drives08:32
zardusif I group them into a raid array, then it doesn't boot grub at all for some reason08:32
intelikeyhmmm   still lean on the idea that grub is now looking on the wrong drive for the rest of it's files....   i could be wrong it could be a real hardware issue.08:33
flaccidwhat to do when can't boot from cd drive?08:33
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flaccidto install kubuntu..08:33
zarduslike the sata controller is incompatible with the system?08:33
zardusis it worth trying lilo? I mean, the CD fails to boot as well.. Doesn't that use isolinux or something/08:34
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intelikeyzardus yeah but i don't think that will be the final answer on that.  i still think grub will be it.08:34
intelikeyzardus if you can get anything to boot try lilo.08:35
intelikeyi have to use lilo cause grub is to week for this setup08:35
zardusI'll give it a try right now. gonna unplug the drives, boot into kubuntu, install lilo, make sure it works, and reboot with the drives plugged in08:36
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martinjh99Morning - Any news on when Egdy is released???08:36
flaccidcan you do network install of kubuntu08:36
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intelikey!netboot08:38
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:38
flaccidta08:39
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intelikeysame factoid for !netinstall    i just like less typing :)08:40
martinjh99!netinstall08:40
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:40
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intelikeyso i can type lots more to explain it and look smart....08:40
intelikeylol not really.08:40
intelikeyit was a joke, ok.   gosh !08:41
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intelikey                                                                                                                                                                                        while true ;do false ;done08:43
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Jucato??08:44
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MotorCitymadManSysinfo for 'max': Linux 2.6.15-27-386 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: AMDAthlon643400+ at 1005 MHz (2011 bogomips), , RAM: 386/1010MB, 106 proc's, 6.39min up08:45
Lam_!help08:45
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:45
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cpk2Sysinfo for 'snoresqueeze': Linux 2.6.15-27-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4806 bogomips), , RAM: 1199/1263MB, 130 proc's, 4.7d up08:45
intelikeyoh Jucato a resource test.   holds my cpu at about  40.1 %08:46
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Jucatolol08:46
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Jucatocouldn't you have done it in a private room? :P08:46
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cpk20.0 1199/1263mb of ram?08:46
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intelikeytesting resource limits.  yeah  but you wouldn't have had the pleasure of seeing it.  :)08:47
Jucatoor asking about it :)08:47
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zarduscrap... well, lilo gives me "LILO - Timestamp mismatch" and doesn't boot08:48
zardusthis is without the drives, though, so its probably something stupid i did08:48
cpk2or bashing him for not using a private room? =P08:48
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Jucatolol08:48
zarduswait, that's interesting... if I take out the card altogether, the timestamp mismatch goes away08:49
zardusso with lilo it doesn't work if the card is in at all, not just if the drives are plugged in08:49
zardusIt gave me a warning when I installed lilo the first time. Let me revert to grub and install lilo again with the card in and see if that warning pops up08:49
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zardushmm.. warning didn't have to do with the card. it says "Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. Name change: '/dev/dm-0' -> '/dev/evms/hda1'"08:50
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intelikeyJucato i have a gui running with twm + this icr connection + playing multimedia files (no skips or jumps in them) + that resource loop  and  total memory used is  15.8 M      on  a k6-ii 350mhz boxen    :)08:51
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intelikeysounds and looks good  and obviously still has power to spare08:51
luke_hey quick question folks...  could somebody explain the difference between the default power profiles?  Powersave vs Conservative vs Ondemand etc?08:52
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intelikeyzardus a warning does not constitute an error08:53
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zardusyeah. Its the only thing I have to go on, though08:53
intelikeyif in doubt you can umount proc and run lilo08:53
zardusever run into lilo just not liking a controller card?08:53
intelikeyno never have yet.08:54
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intelikeyzardus maybe disable evms and see what it does08:55
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MotorCitymadManthinking, can you see the smoke, i wonder why more users go for gnome over kde08:55
intelikeybut i have see the name change warning before...08:55
intelikeyMotorCitymadMan cause it is the default for ubuntu ?08:56
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MotorCitymadManvery good reasoning08:56
marlon__i prefer kubuntu08:57
intelikeyi'm not sure that more people do,  in some groups you find trends that you don't find in others....   i think that the statictics will prove that more people choose M$ windows out of ignorance than out of choice....08:58
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intelikeynot that they wouldn't use M$  just that they don't know they have a choice.08:59
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marlon__that's true dude!!08:59
MotorCitymadManyes, i just burn the kubuntu iso , just as easy , i've found kde to be workable08:59
MotorCitymadManmore*08:59
goliath23hi09:00
intelikeyi used windows until xp came out, imo it was regressing not progressing....    i never have been a fan of automatic krap.    "if you make it idiot proof, they will just make a better idiot"09:01
luke_can anyone tell me what the difference between standby, suspend, and hibernate are?09:01
luke_I always thouht standby and suspend were the same thing09:01
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goliath23i upgraded to kde 3.5.5 recently using the repository announced on the homepage. sadly the automounting of usb-sticks doesn't work right now (at least that's the most annoying bug ;) .. I don't want to spam bug reports but I couldn't find a note about that problem in the wiki. is it a known problem for kde 3.5.5 on dapper? (the dialog "what do you want to do" shows up, but when I click on "open in new window" nothing happens)09:02
intelikeystandby just slows things down    suspend hangs them out to dry while hibernate saves them to ram/disk  and kills the thing.09:03
MotorCitymadMangoliath23@ same happened to me09:03
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goliath23so I guess there's already a bug report on launchpad. it#s09:03
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luke_:intelikey thanks09:04
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goliath23it's just so hard to find in this sea of bugs. I hope someone pays a horde of students sometime to clean this up ;)09:04
MotorCitymadMannot sure, but i fixed with a manual mount dir09:04
cpk2thats odd the what do you want to do works for me...09:04
pacmanI'm lost09:04
intelikey!malone09:04
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/09:04
intelikeyreport it    ^09:04
intelikeyreport it    ^09:04
intelikeyreport it    ^09:04
goliath23intelikey: me?09:05
intelikeyyes09:05
goliath23ok09:05
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pacmananyone familiar with getting a printer set up?09:05
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goliath23any hint on providing more detailed info on this one? certain kde/konqueror logs?09:05
intelikeyif you don't find a report on a bug  then report the bug.09:05
intelikeygoliath23 i'm not the one to answer that actually.09:06
goliath23MotorCitymadMan: does navigating to "devices" in konqueror also take you just to /media?09:06
goliath23intelikey: ok09:06
intelikeyjucato you know ?09:06
intelikey!bug09:06
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/09:06
orient2000pielgrzym> co tam w Polsce sie dzeje? Nikt nie uzywa linuxa?09:06
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pielgrzymorient2000: eee uzywa ;)09:07
Jucatohuh?09:07
MotorCitymadMangoliath23@ just ? not sure. i always use the shell09:07
Jucatosorry I was afk intelikey09:07
intelikey<goliath23> any hint on providing more detailed info on this one? certain  kde/konqueror logs?09:07
intelikeyJucato ^09:07
Jucatobugs.kde.org would be your best bet09:08
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goliath23MotorCitymadMan: in kde 3.5.4 it would take you to media:/ ..09:08
MotorCitymadManhave you tryed ?09:09
goliath23Jucato: yes, probably. I think its kde related. but it might be that its a kde bug only surfacing in kubuntu.. well I take another look at bugs.kde.org09:09
intelikeygoliath23 Jucato sujests  http://bugs.ubuntu.com/   see if it helps you any.   also of note, https://launchpad.net/09:09
Jucatointelikey: I didn't suggest bugs.ubuntu.com :P09:09
intelikeyoh ...09:10
intelikeyyes my bad.09:10
intelikeygoliath23 Jucato sujests     bugs.kde.org    ubotu said  http://bugs.ubuntu.com/   see if it helps you any.   also of note, https://launchpad.net/09:10
intelikeybetter ?09:10
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zardussigh... everything i can find about this lilo timestamp mismatch says to install grub :-(09:10
Jucatolol :)09:11
intelikeylol09:11
intelikeytimestamp mismatch ???   hmmm maybe install lilo's mbr on all drives.... ?09:12
orient2000What does it mean lol ?09:12
Jucatogoliath23: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13558609:12
Jucatoorient2000: laugh out loud09:12
Jucatogoliath23: http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2006/10/solution-for-kubuntu-355-and-usb-not.html09:12
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zardusit's the only drive on...09:13
goliath23Jucato: thanks a lot!09:13
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Jucatogoliath23: those were the results of "kde 3.5.5 usb-stick mount" search in kde bugs09:13
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goliath23okay, lazy me. sorry09:14
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Jucato:)09:14
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intelikeyzardus i'm sure you've been here. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/7537-lilo-timestamp-mismatch.html09:15
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jaime_porq no kubuntu_es ??09:16
Jucato!es09:16
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:16
intelikeyhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=11288309:17
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intelikeyzardus  hehhe clock set to gmt ?09:18
goliath23Jucato: thanks, that worked!09:18
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Jucatogoliath23: great! :)09:19
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goliath23does anyone know how I get the old konqueror profiles back (for example the "open terminal" entry in the extras menu?09:21
Jucatogoliath23: F8 (embedded terminal) and F4 (separate terminal) ?09:21
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goliath23Jucato: oh, oky09:22
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Jucatogoliath23: this, too: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror (but I suggest moving them rather than deleting them, just in case you want the defaults back)09:22
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goliath23ah yes, this one I found already, but it doesn't change the entries in the extras menu09:23
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Jucatoextras menu? or extra toolbar?09:23
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goliath23the menu09:24
Jucatoah. hm.. that I wouldn't know. are you sure you're using the right profile (File Management)?09:25
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goliath23ah okay, it's back now!09:25
goliath23guess I was using the wrong profile09:25
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Jucato:)09:26
jendeGood morning folks ;-)09:26
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Jucatohi jende! :)09:27
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jendeJucato: howdy, how is your cold?09:28
Jucatostill not gone. but definitely not worse (yet) :)09:28
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jendeJucato: dude has pretty much fu**** up his system;09:29
Jucatowhat the?09:29
Jucatohow?09:29
jendeJucato: he couldn't even reconfigure the Xserver, I haven#t got a bit of an iidea ow did that09:29
Jucatoerr... now that's really really bad...09:30
intelikeyHAH!  ~/   is an invalid path in xcdroast.... how stupid can you get and still breath ?09:30
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jendeJucato: yep09:30
Jucatoheh )09:30
MotorCitymadManhow to load prog's faster http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#prelink09:31
jendeJucato: fdoving tried to help, but even he hadn't had any success nor an idea09:31
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Jucatowhoa?!?! fdoving couldn't solve it? omg!! that is indeed very very bad09:31
intelikeyMotorCitymadMan does it work in the console ?09:31
intelikey:)09:31
JucatoI'm not sure prelinking still works nowadays...09:31
jendeJucato: indeed it is very,very bad...but I guess that dude played a bit of to much with Nvidia and Nvidia beta drivers and simply messed the system up09:32
Jucatough... nvidia beta drivers... :P09:32
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jendeJucato: I told dude not to use any beta stuff, but he didn't I guess09:33
Jucatooh well :)09:33
jendeJucato: basically it's dudes own fault if he is not doing what someone tells him09:34
Jucatoit's his freedom anyway :)09:34
jendeJucato: I brought him into a chroot environment and a dpkg-reconfigure didn't do anything09:35
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jendeJucato: so do I; cause until yesterday I could bring back almost every single system once I had it in chroot09:36
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jendeJucato: fdoving asked him what he did and dude said "a lot, but dunno!"09:37
Jucatolol09:37
jendeJucato: remember that dude always wanted to use beryl? He is more than a newb and bery is still pre-alpha...what combination beryl and a newb...lol09:38
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jendeintelikey: he is hopeless09:39
Jucatoheh09:39
Jucatowell, he's brave for trying new stuff :)09:39
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intelikeyi dont' think he is hopeless but helping him fix a borked boxen seemed hopeless....09:40
jendeJucato: that's true, but he should simply listen and following the stuff we're telling him09:40
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jendeJucato: instead of trying to find the latest experimental nvidia drivers; just to have a better 3D performance09:41
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jendeJucato: back in a min just getting e a coffee and a smoke *g*09:43
Jucatoheh09:44
Jucatome too. gonna make some OJ.09:44
JucatoI'm sure intelikey can handle everything in here for a few minutes :P09:44
intelikeywhat the Krap.  why is *buntu distributing "ALPHA" software ?    xcdroast version is  0.98alpha15    i assume that alpha means alpha  ???????09:44
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intelikey?09:45
jendeintelikey: maybe it's got something to do with jrg schilling as his tools are not anymore under GPL?Maybe?09:46
jendeintelikey: nope, that wouldn't mmake sense, really. would it?09:46
intelikeybut alpha ?   isn't there a stable ?     no not really it wouldn't.09:47
jendeintelikey: as much as I knnow - no xcdroast has been always alpha09:47
thoreauputicintelikey: xcdroast is kind of old school - any reason you need it?09:47
jendeintelikey: and it's quite tricky...for newbs not a go...I'd say09:48
intelikeyit's distributed in the normal ubuntu repos on the LTS release as alpha   hehhe09:48
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intelikeyjende what's quite tricky ?09:49
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momalbandwidth manager on linux anyone know a good one to use ?... easy to set up and use that works09:49
intelikeythoreauputic i always liked xcdroast.    it even works where k3 fails for me.09:49
jendeintelikey: ah well, you have to play a fair bit in systemfiles, because most recent cd-drives wont be detected.09:49
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thoreauputicintelikey: true, it seems reliable ( i used to use it but gnomebaker and k3b work for me now)09:50
intelikeyjust modprobe ide-scsi jende09:50
jendeintelikey: I hadn't had a problem, but a person like dude09:50
Jucatoanyone know of a good GUI bandwidth monitor for XP?09:50
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intelikeyfor xp !09:51
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Jucatowhat you didn't know I've been using XP exclusively for 3 days now :)09:51
momalJucato: Du super Controler (only 1 L) is fairly good... for xp >_<09:51
jendeJucato: what is xp?09:51
Jucatoit's really exciting :P09:51
momalanyone know good one for linux ?09:51
jendemomal: wondershape but it hasnt got a gui09:52
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Jucatomomal: the only ones I know of is KNemo and KNetStat. I'm not sure how easy they are to setup/use though09:52
momaljende: is wondershape easy to use ?.. gui doesn't really concern me if i can just do something like port 12345 and have speed settings up/down on them09:53
momaljucato: thanks will have a look at them09:53
intelikeymomal apt-cache search <phrase/name/or/string>       can be filtered real easy with  | grep -e "<what to display>"09:53
momallol i have looked but im asking if anyone has used one that is good and can say use that :p09:54
Jucatoor "apt:/" in Konqueror gives you a nice GUI interface to both apt-cache and packages.ubuntu.com09:54
intelikeyprolly just as faster than adapt > search09:54
Jucatointelikey: well, not really. Konqueror starts up faster than Adept :P09:55
intelikeyreread ^09:55
jendeintelikey: momal, I'd say wondershape is quite easy to handle, but I haven't uused for a long time09:55
Jucatoah ok... I misread "faster" :P09:55
momalcan Knemo change bandwidth usage? from the look of the description it only shows how much traffic is been used09:56
intelikey:)09:56
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Jucatomomal: err.. sorry, no09:56
Jucatoisn't bandwidth usage something that depends from app to app?09:56
johannesSo, who's good at how to get a Canon MP C80 printer to work with Kubuntu? :)09:56
jendeJucato: with wondershape you can limit the usage of the bandwidth for each user09:57
Jucatojende: aah..09:57
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jendeJucato: it makes sense in situations where a bunch of people have to share one dsl account, i.e09:58
Jucatoyeah, it does make sense09:58
intelikeythoreauputic and jende, late note on the xcdroast thing ^  my cd burner is an scsi drive  so any burner is "like totally, so..."   :)09:58
momaljende: can you use it to set certain ports to limit bw on ?09:58
intelikeyor burner-soft    that^09:58
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jendemomal: puuuh...I think you could do that, but I'm not quite sure as it is really a long time ago that I had o use it09:59
intelikeyi may have old hardware. but it was top notch.09:59
jendemomal: puuuh...I think you could do that, but I'm not quite sure as it is really a long time ago that I had to use it09:59
Jucatoah Friendster... I love it when my friends use layouts/profiles that either do not render properly in other browsers, or simply works in IE exclusively :)09:59
momaljende: arr ok i'll have alookies at it thanks10:00
jendemomal: have fun10:00
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intelikeyJucato or don't scale to window size...  being a console user that agrivates me10:00
Jucatothat too10:01
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intelikeyside scrolling m3b  hehhe10:01
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intelikeys/m3b/w3m/    ooops10:03
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JucatoI was wondering what m3b meant. lol10:04
intelikeyyeah typo....10:04
intelikeyoff home key10:04
intelikeyi used to type about 10 words a minute  with one fingure   now i type with all ten about 85 words but some are totally unrecognizable10:06
intelikey:)10:06
jende:-)10:06
Jucatoheheheh :P10:06
cpk2the worst is when you type tons and then realize your fingers were to the right or left by one10:06
intelikeybeen there.10:07
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Jucatoyeah I've done that a couple of times10:07
intelikeyhVWBR QW kk10:07
Jucatohehe10:08
intelikeyor havent we all     in example format10:08
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Jucatodamn colds making me drowsy..10:08
intelikeyyeah and the cold meds compound that10:08
WitchSwordheya ppl10:08
Jucatoyeah....10:09
intelikeywell they always did for me.  i haven't taken anything in 10 years10:09
Jucatowow. you must be really really healthy then...10:09
intelikeyidk10:09
intelikeynot really, i just don't get sick.10:10
intelikey:)10:10
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WitchSwordi have just intalled kubuntu everything works nice on my hp nx6110 laptop but i need software for graphics designing and web designing can anybody help me10:10
Jucatoanyway, see guys around in a while :)10:10
momal10 years hmm only thing i have had in that time was an ear infection lol.. nothing else lol10:10
tristanhi there10:10
tristanNow that I moved to beryl from compiz my K menu is not transparent anymore, how can I get this back10:10
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momaltristan: not the place to ask... goto #beryl and ask :)10:11
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intelikeyWitchSword looked at quanta+  and maybe  kdevelop ?10:11
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maryenwhee! RC1 comes out today!!!10:12
momalWitchSword: Gimp is alright for graphic's design you can check that out as well10:12
intelikeyWitchSword i don't do webdevelopment things so if that's not even close ask someone that has a clue.10:12
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intelikeyyeah gimp for the pic's10:13
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WitchSwordbut gimp is not on the cd momal10:13
momalI dont' think its big to download10:13
momal!gimp10:13
ubotuAn advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.10:13
WitchSwordty10:13
intelikey!info gimp10:13
ubotugimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2712 kB, installed size 7648 kB10:13
momal2.7mb :D10:13
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ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs10:13
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xiao4hello all~10:18
jendeWitchSword: gimp is damn cool10:19
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WitchSwordmmmmmmmmm another question10:23
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WitchSwordi got mp3's but amarok doesn't play it do i need a codec?10:24
CVirus!mp310:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:24
CVirusWitchSword: ^10:24
jendeWitchSword: yep, libxine-extracodecs10:24
WitchSwordwow!!!! coool10:24
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:25
WitchSwordcoooool10:25
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intelikey-  But please use free formats if you can:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:26
jendeintelikey: whoa, I just got a note from ubotu that I should keep the channel family-friendly. funny though, cause I didn't say anything family unfriendly. did I10:26
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WitchSworderm jende i didn't see anything10:28
jendeWitchSword: me neither...:-)10:28
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intelikeyidk depends on the familey i guess.10:29
WitchSwordlol10:29
jendeintelikey: lol10:30
WitchSwordok so i need to convert all my mp3's to ogg eish10:30
WitchSwordthis sounds like more work10:30
intelikeycould be scripted...10:30
WitchSwordmp3's are restricted10:31
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WitchSwordwhat do u mean by scripted?10:31
jendeWitchSword: some stereos (esp carstereos) dont play oggs10:31
intelikeyfor this in <dir/full/of/mp3's> ;do <your.comverter> $this ;done10:31
jendeWitchSword: you can write a script and the script is converting all files10:31
intelikeyactually i havent seen a car sterio that played mp3....  but that don't mean much.10:33
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jendeintelikey: mine does its a Blaupunkt and wasnt even expensive10:33
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jendeintelikey: and my dad has a pioneer and it plays mp3's, too10:33
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dudehello jende10:34
sebsoonclear10:34
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jendedude: how are you, how ist your xserver?10:34
dudejende: cool : )10:34
dudetnx10:35
WitchSword!ogg10:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:35
jendedude: could your X-drama get solved last nite?10:35
dudejende: yes....hehehe10:35
jendedude: how?10:35
dudejende: reconfiguartion of x server10:36
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jendedude: so, you had a misspelling?10:36
dudejende: yes...my mistake, first time in linux10:37
jendedude: so, morghanhoenix and I were on the right track to get yoou and your box back to live10:37
sebsoonHello.10:37
jendesebsoon: hi10:38
sebsoongive me channel french plz10:38
rlji am having trouble with keyboard layouts in kde under dapper. my Xorg is set to use a swedish layout which works fine. however, as i'm currently doing work in romania, i'd like to be able to type those chars once in a while. i set up the kde systray applet, but changing to romanian results in a us keyboard map instead. setting to e.g. norwegian works fine and i can type their chars so i think the romanian layout is simply nonexistent or buggy. any ideas how to i10:38
jende!fr10:38
dudejende: exactly, thanks to guys...big help10:38
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:38
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dudejende: exactly, thanks to u guys...big help10:38
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jendedude: cool, if everything worked out for you10:39
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jenderlj: I guess that you have to change your locales, too10:41
sebsoon:)10:41
jenderlj: type in a console:"sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and see whether there is romania or not in it10:42
jendesebsoon: have fun...;-)10:42
sebsoon:)10:43
rljjende: the result of that is that all are up to date and those include only like 10 variants or en_ as well as ro_RO.UTF-8. there is no swedish locale there though which surprises me a bit10:44
jenderlj: you know pastebin?10:44
jende!pastebin10:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:45
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rljjende: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27190/10:45
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rljjende: as i do have working swedish layout even in VTs10:46
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dudejende: can u suggest some application of kubuntu10:48
rljjende: even russian layout seems to work (get russian chars when i type). so i think it might be a romania-specific locale bug10:48
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jenderlj: is kde-i18-ro installed?10:49
jenderlj: is kde-i18n-ro installed?10:50
jendedude: what kind of app?10:50
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dudejende: utilities10:50
jendedude: what kind of utilities?10:50
rljjende: no.10:51
jenderlj: without that it wont work, I guess10:51
rljjende: but neither is the respective i18n packages for norwegian, syrian, russian either..10:51
rljjende: loads of other layouts work fine out of the box. it's just the romanian one it seems that results in US instead10:52
jenderlj: as much as google told me, you'll need that otherwise...dunno if I'm right here, but it might be worth trying10:52
dudejende: can i run adobe photoshop in ubuntu?10:52
jendedude: nope10:52
jendedude: get gimp instead10:52
rljjende: as far as i know kde-i18n-XX only has the kde translation files for the respective language10:52
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rljjende: i even tried syrian layout (which is right-to-left) and it worked out of the box with the systray applet. so i don't think it's a matter of uninstalled packages because then those would not work either10:53
jenderlj: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-i18n-ro/2006-February/000087.html10:53
dudejende: ok, how do i upgeade my KDE10:54
dude?10:54
rljjende: sorry, my romanian isn't *quite* that sophisticated as of yet ;)10:54
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jenderlj: http://www.debian.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=2&showtopic=51010:55
jendedude: ALT+F2 sudo apt-get install gimp10:55
jende!ro10:56
ubotuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.10:56
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rljjende: that might be worth a shot though10:56
dudejende: y gimp?10:56
dudejende: ok, how do i upgeade my KDE10:56
jendedude: instead of using Adobe PS get, as I just said, Gimp using apt10:57
jenderlj: hope it'll help10:57
dudeok10:57
dudejende: ok, how do i upgeade my KDE10:57
dude!kde10:57
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE10:57
jendedude: you have to give me a bit more than just utilities to tell you how you can upggrade yoour KDE, you know10:58
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jendedude: if you go to the section add/remove programs in the system menu you'll find already a bunch of K-Apps10:59
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jendedude: and?11:01
jendedude: whatelse you can do is that you browse www.kde.org11:01
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jendedude: whatelse you can do is that you browse www.kde.org11:08
mrcreativi need help connecting to the internet11:08
jendemrcreativ: what is your problem?how do you connect?via dsl/broadband?11:09
mrcreativi have a dsl modem...11:09
jendemrcreativ: keep telling11:09
mrcreativalright...it works fine with windows and everything11:09
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mrcreativits only ive been having trrouble connecting with kubuntu11:10
mrcreativi have made the partition and everything, i just need to know if i can connect before i install.11:10
mrcreativi installed it once on my aptop already,11:10
jendemrcreativ: nope11:11
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mrcreativnope?11:11
jendemrcreativ: the interface needs to be get loaded after the kernel has been loaded, so you will have to have either a LiveCD, such as Dapper which will11:12
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mrcreativi have a live cd, and i think its dapper drake.11:12
jendethen try to get a connection to the Inet using DHCP11:12
mrcreativi have booted as live,11:12
mrcreativcan u help me to connect using DHCP11:13
jendemrcreativ: make sure that DHCP is enabled in the modem/router11:13
mrcreativit has been enabled11:13
jendemrcreativ: and you've connection to the net?11:13
mrcreativnot thru kubuntu no11:13
jendemrcreativ: open a console using ALT+F211:14
mrcreativdone11:14
jendemrcreativ: and then type ifconfig11:15
mrcreativok11:15
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jendehas ifconfig configured an eth0 device?11:15
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mrcreativthere is a bunch if stuff listed next to eth0. how do i know if its been configured or not11:16
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momalhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/207903 <-- how do i go about doing that i have 2.6.15-27-386 kernel on11:16
jendemrcreativ: do you know pastebin?11:16
mrcreativi dont think so...but i dont think i can paste, because im using a laptop and working on kubuntu which is on my pc11:17
mrcreativwait...i may be able to save it as a text file one sec...11:17
jendeno11:17
jende!pastebin11:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:17
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jendemrcreativ: please paste and copy the output of ifconfig to pastebin11:17
jendemomal: what do you mean?I just don't get it11:18
momalhow do i configure the kernel for those options11:18
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momali tried make menuconfig in the kernel source folder but didn't find those settings :S11:19
dude_jende: whats the difference between Kofice and openoffice?11:19
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mrcreativjende...done11:20
jendemrcreativ: have you pastebin the output?If so, I need the URL given to you by pastebin11:20
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jendemrcreativ: to find your posting11:20
mrcreativhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27191/11:21
jendemomal:...hmmm...11:21
jendedude_: nothing much, one prefers the Koffice style the other one openoffice.org - it's a question of taste11:22
WitchSwordlaters ppl11:22
dude_jende: are you using KDE?11:22
jendemrcreativ: okay, do you have the ip address of your router?11:23
jendedude_: yes11:23
dude_jende: what's version?11:23
mrcreativbut isnt it a dynamic address?11:23
dude_jende: 3.5.5?11:23
jendedude_: 3.5.511:23
jendemrcreativ: nope, the router something like 192.168.2.111:23
mrcreativu mean the address that i use to configure the router?11:23
mrcreativyeah...11:23
mrcreativi have that11:23
dude_jende: how do i check the version of my KDE?11:24
jendeokay, then let us see if you have a bit of a route: type "route" at the konsole11:24
momaldude_: if your on konversation just goto help>about kde11:24
jvdvHi, Jende, do remember me from earlier this week?11:24
jendejvdv: I do11:25
jvdvI could my Internet from my Kubuntu machine running11:25
jvdvThks for your help11:25
jendedude_: open an app, like k3B and open the About section in it there will be a point!About KDE"11:25
mrcreativjende...i type route, what am i looking for11:26
jendejvdv: glad to help you11:26
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dude_jende: ok, tnx, its 3.5.2, how do i upgrade?11:26
jendedude_: YOU don't upgrade!11:26
dude_jende: ?11:26
jendedude_: you may want to upgrade i  2 weeks time to edgy once it is in stable11:27
dude_jende: ok, copy11:27
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dude_jende: thnx11:27
momalwill edgy have kde 3.5.5 on it by default?11:27
jendedude_: dont mix your system, okay11:27
jendemomal: yes11:27
dude_jende: hehehe ok...11:27
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mrcreativjende...11:27
jendemrcreativ: there should be 2 lines,11:28
mrcreativyeah11:28
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mrcreativkernel ip routing table11:28
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dude_momal: i should not use beryl 4 the meantime,11:28
mrcreativand the second line says destination, gateway, genmask, flags,11:28
jendemrcreativ: in the last one it should say in the section router the address of your router. If not we have to try to11:28
mrcreativit says nothing...no numbers11:28
momaldude_: oh?11:28
jendemomal: dude is a total newb and beryl is still in prealpha11:29
jendemrcreativ: type route add default gw <the ip of your router>11:29
dude_momal: it might crash my system again, hehehe, i dont wana install the whole system again, maybe i'll wait11:30
momalhehe... probably just something small killing it :p11:30
mrcreativoperation nor supported11:31
mindspinsudo11:31
jendemrcreativ: type sudo route add default gw <the ip of your router>11:31
jendemindspin: ;-)11:31
dude_as of now, im still  still learning linux11:31
mrcreativnetwork is unreachable11:31
dude_long way to go11:31
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jendemrcreativ: type sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.10111:32
jendemrcreativ: type sudo route add default gw <the ip of your router>11:32
jendemrcreativ: and the type sudo route11:32
micraHi. I have 2 sound cards i my computer, how do i choose between them?11:32
mrcreativnetwork is unreachable11:33
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mrcreativhuh...route shows something now...11:33
jendemrcreativ: pastebin it11:34
mrcreativdestination is 192.168.2.011:34
jendemrcreativ: pastebin the output of route, don't do it in here, okay11:34
mindspin!paste11:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:35
mrcreativyeah, but wait, whats the easiset way11:35
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mrcreativi cant paste from the linux machine because there is no network remember?11:35
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jendemrcreativ: just open pastebin using the URL http://pastebin-nl.org and write it down the way you see it on your Kubuntu machine11:36
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mrcreativhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27193/11:37
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jendemrcreativ: how is your box connected to the router?11:38
mrcreativethernet cable11:38
jendeand the router is supposed to have more than box connected?11:39
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mrcreativwhat exactly do u mean supposed to have? yeah, its a wireless gateway router...with 4 lan connections and wireless11:39
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mrcreativwindows works perfectly11:40
jendemrcreativ: but not with a LiveCD...;-)11:40
mrcreativnope...11:40
mrcreativso...u think i need to install?11:40
momalany way i could make my whole kubuntu box run through a proxy? so everything uses the proxy no matter what.. all programs, console apps etc11:41
jendemrcreativ: okay, is the IP 192.168.x.x of your router the right one you've given the route add?11:41
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mrcreativyeap11:41
jendemrcreativ: try that:ping 192.168.x.x11:42
jendemomal: was that a question or a statement?11:42
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mrcreativno response11:43
momaljende: question ^^11:44
jendemrcreativ: okay, it seems to be that you cant give manual routes while you are on a LiveSystem11:44
jendemrcreativ: sorry, mate11:44
mrcreativok...so u think i should install11:44
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mrcreativlet me install then11:44
jendemomal: basically, yes you are able to make a proxy out of your Kubuntu box11:44
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jendemrcreativ: yep you will have to install it though11:45
mrcreativlet me try installing it...will u be online for longer?11:45
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SnifouilleHey there11:45
momaloo no not the question lol.. umm how can i make every program im using on my kubuntu box eg if i use apt-get or kopete or any program on the box it will auto make it goto a specific proxy... so it kinda makes any net traffic use the proxy11:45
morghanphoenixwhat's the command to change ownership of a path? my usb drive seems to be owned by root and I can't copy to it for backup.11:46
rysiek|plguys, need a wee bit o'help here11:46
momalmorghanpheonix: sudo chown user.group filename11:46
mrcreativwho doesnt11:46
momalmorghanpheonix: command is | chown try chown --help for more info :)11:47
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SnifouilleI'm new to ubuntu, and I'm trying to copy files from ntfs partition to a fat 32 one... The problem is that I'm on the live cd, and i can't mount my ntfs partition (when I try to mount it tells me that it is already mounted or something like that...)11:47
jende!ntfs11:47
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:47
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SnifouilleOn the Live CD, I know how to mount partitions (command mount or fstab) but here I'm on the Live CD...11:48
morghanphoenixchanging ownership of `sda1': Operation not permitted11:48
morghanphoenixsomething different for a path?11:48
jendeSnifouille: I guess that wont work while you're just with the LiveCD11:48
rysiek|plmy friend on Kubuntu Edgy is experiencing some strange issues with the XServer: X's crashed once and he's unable to log into KDE - everytime he tries X's crash. rebooting, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't help. whatismore, he has this in the .xsession-errors file: http://wklej.org/id/ecc5fa3986 any ideas?11:49
mrcreativjende...ok, its installing now11:49
jenderysiek|pl: that's why edgy hasn't been released yet11:49
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morghanphoenixlin1029kde515011:50
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Snifouillejende: okay... :(11:50
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jenderysiek|pl: it's still buggy, but that is something your friend should know if he goes along with an unstable system:It may crash from time to time11:50
rysiek|pljende: yeah, he knows. but we though there might be some solution. especially taken into account that he had exactly the same problem with Dapper11:51
rysiek|pljende: and it's not "crashing from time to time", it's "crashed once, crashes every time since" :)11:51
jenderysiek|pl: maybe it's worth then to open a Bugreport11:51
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t0taln00byo11:52
rysiek|pljende: sure, just wanted to ask here, didn't want to bugrep something that's been solved this way or another11:52
jenderysiek|pl: and also I would ask the folks on the xserver site if they heard about that problem and if they know a solution11:52
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jenderysiek|pl: good on ya...11:53
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rysiek|plmorghanphoenix: I think you might have given us your user's password, you might want to change it ;)11:53
rysiek|pljende: ok, thanks11:53
morghanphoenixAllready done11:53
jenderysiek|pl: no worries, you're welcome11:53
t0taln00bif i enable compositing manager from kde control center i get those nifty effects such as transparency and so on11:54
t0taln00bbut ..11:54
morghanphoenixso, anyone on how to change ownership of paths?11:54
t0taln00bberyl doesnt work this way =(11:54
t0taln00bcan anyone help me plz =)11:55
morghanphoenixsays not permitted shen I chown11:55
jendet0taln00b: ehm...you know that beryl is in pre-alpha and it wont be suppoerted in here?11:55
rysiek|plt0taln00b: gimme a sec, I'll give you a howto that worked for me11:55
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t0taln00b=)11:55
t0taln00bthx11:55
rysiek|plt0taln00b: you're Dapper or Edgy?11:55
momalt0taln00b: goto #beryl11:55
t0taln00bedgy11:56
jenderysiek|pl: thats not the irc for beryl probs11:56
t0taln00bi have dapper tooo11:56
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rysiek|pljende: right11:56
rysiek|plt0taln00b: register your user with freenode so that we could talk mon priv11:56
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rysiek|plt0taln00b: or go here: #t0taln00bandrysiek11:57
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t0taln00bk11:57
jendemorghanphoenix: pastebin your fstab and mtab11:57
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jendemomal: isnt that weird...newbs gambling around with beryl11:58
momalhehe11:58
morghanphoenixsda1 isn't in it11:58
jendemorghanphoenix: so, now you know what to do.don't you11:58
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t0taln00bit's just my nick though11:59
momalCompiz probly got a lot of people to try out linux lol so now they want beryl since compiz is kinda broken and old lol11:59
t0taln00bim not so t0tal n00b11:59
morghanphoenixI didn't think removables were supposed to be in fstab?11:59
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jendet0taln00b: it is pre-alpha that means it has moved into experimental12:00
mrcreativityjende...12:01
mrcreativityu there?12:01
jendemorghanphoenix: it depends12:01
jendemrcreativity: yes12:01
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jendemorghanphoenix: you want to make a backup is that all?12:02
mrcreativitygood...installation is done.12:02
maryenits funny that compiz is considered old now12:02
mrcreativityrestarting now12:02
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morghanphoenixyeah, just dropping stuff on the external.12:02
t0taln00b0000dd thing is that when i disable compositing mng from kcc beryl works but redrawing is as bit laggy =(12:02
maryenmakes me feel old12:02
jendemorghanphoenix: lets see if you can make it on the console12:03
mrcreativityjende...its possible to configure the boot manager right?12:03
jendemrcreativity: yep12:03
mrcreativitygood. somehow, SUSE feels a lot easier to cofngire12:03
morghanphoenixI've been using the console12:03
jendemorghanphoenix:as sudo?12:03
momalmaryen: hmm not really old but more like.... outdated probably better word to use12:03
morghanphoenixEven tried -r for the path and all files are "not permitted"12:04
morghanphoenixyes12:04
cpk2morghanphoenix: you are trying to delete files?12:05
jendemorghanphoenix: type sudo apt-cache search rsnapshot12:05
mrcreativityjende...12:05
jendecpk2: nope, she is trying to copy files onto sda112:05
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jendemrcreativity: yep12:05
morghanphoenixokay12:05
mrcreativitydone...now what do i do12:05
morghanphoenixsloacare rsnapshot12:06
cpk2sudo mv doesnt work eh?12:06
jendemrcreativity: did your internet got configured?12:06
cpk2whats the filesystem on sda1?12:06
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jendecpk2: its a usb12:07
mrcreativityjende...no m812:07
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jendemrcreativity: thats weird12:07
cpk2so whats the file system on sda1?12:07
dhqhow do i use wget to get all the files in my server12:07
dhq!wget12:07
ubotuwget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 225 kB, installed size 1952 kB12:07
cpk2dhq: man wget =)12:08
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morghanphoenixnope, mv doesn't work12:08
dhqcpk2: no whats the command12:08
jendedhq: man wget telly you all about12:08
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momaldhq: type | man wget | and have lookies should be in there about downloading everything :p12:08
cpk2morghanphoenix: mv as sudo? is the sda1 file system ext3?12:09
jendedhq: if you want to make an upload you may want to use krusader or konqi12:09
morghanphoenixno, ext3 to ntfs, the ntfs is mounted as root12:09
dhqwget -r -c  i used it but it only downloads html and gif files12:09
cpk2hrmm12:09
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cpk2!fuse12:09
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:09
jendemrcreativity: came an errormsg while Kubuntu tried to set your network12:09
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momala usb drive in ntfs that be a first I seen that i only ever see them been used with fat32 :p12:10
cpk2morghanphoenix: are you using fuse?12:10
morghanphoenixnot that I know of.12:11
morghanphoenixno idea what that is.12:11
morghanphoenixDrive came from my win2k install12:11
cpk2morghanphoenix: and ntfs might not be the best idea for an external drive =P12:11
thoreauputicmorghanphoenix: writing to ntfs is not supported without risky extra stuff12:11
jendecpk2: its prolly the worse to use12:11
cpk2morghanphoenix: do you still need it to be compatible with windows?12:11
morghanphoenixYes12:12
cpk2morghanphoenix: you might want to consider ext2 or fat3212:12
morghanphoenixSchool. work and girlfriend's computer. I'm the only linux box around.12:12
jendemorghanphoenix: can you reformat it to fat32?12:12
mrcreativityjende...12:12
cpk2ext2 might even be better12:12
jendemrcreativity: yes12:12
cpk2but I am not sure how hard it is to get windows to use ext212:13
mrcreativityhelp12:13
jendemrcreativity: you didnt get my question, did you12:13
morghanphoenixnot without losing 60gb worth of data, can probably back it up onto a win machine's hdd and get it back later12:13
mrcreativityno....12:13
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morghanphoenixbut that'd be a leavit it transfering overnight thing.12:13
jendemrcreativity: came an errormsg while Kubuntu tried to set your network12:13
mrcreativityu mean the above procedure?12:13
cpk2morghanphoenix: ok, well we will solve writing to ntfs but keep in mind writing to ntfs from nix is not the safest12:13
cpk2and you risk corrupting data12:14
morghanphoenixokay, I gotta go for a sec12:14
mrcreativitysudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.101?12:14
morghanphoenixbe back in a bit12:14
jendemrcreativity: no, I mean usually Kubuntu telly you while it is installing if he could get connected to the INet or not12:14
jendemrcreativity: no, I mean usually Kubuntu tells you while it is installing if he could get connected to the INet or not12:15
jendemrcreativity: in the installation process the latest updates will be downloaded12:15
mrcreativityno...12:16
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morghanphoenixOkay, going to try something real fast before doing this, I don't want to lose all that stuff if I screw up. Just thought of something else, be back in a bit, hopefully to say nevermind.12:16
mrcreativityit just said security updates could not be downloded12:16
jendemrcreativity: so, that is an errormessage12:16
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mrcreativitykinda12:17
mrcreativityso...12:18
jendemrcreativity: basically what it tells you is that Kubuntu couldn't onto your router or that your NIC couldn't get recognized12:18
mrcreativityyes12:18
jendemrcreativity: what kind of a NIC is it?12:18
mrcreativitynic?12:18
mrcreativitywell...i think its an nvidia12:18
jendeNIC=Network Interface Card12:18
mrcreativityi know...12:19
mrcreativityits an nvidia12:19
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mrcreativityjende...12:20
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jendemrcreativity: i just asked google12:20
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jendemrcreativity: bad news mate, nvidia's fast gigabit ethernet is not quite supported12:20
mrcreativityoh...12:20
mrcreativityim screwed12:20
mrcreativityanyway...12:20
jendemrcreativity: wait a sec12:20
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morghanphoenixOkay, what's the tag for mount that defines the owner?12:21
fdovingmorghanphoenix: what filesystem?12:22
morghanphoenixI just want to try a manual mount since it's not automounting anymore.12:22
morghanphoenixshould be ntfs, but may be fat32, I could've been wrong.12:22
morghanphoenixhow do I check the file system?12:22
mrcreativityim leaving. i couldnt configure it on my laptop, and its not working on my desktop12:23
mrcreativityjende...thanks for all ur help m812:23
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morghanphoenixbut definatly one of those two.12:23
mrcreativityadios12:23
fdovingmorghanphoenix: mount /dev/hdX /mountpoint -o uid=username12:23
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jendefdoving: howdy12:24
fdovinghi jende.12:24
morghanphoenixmust specify the filesystem type12:25
morghanphoenixhow do I check that on an unmounted device?12:25
fdovingmorghanphoenix: mount -t auto /dev/hdX /mountpoint -o uid=username12:25
fdovingthen.12:25
jendefdoving: dude told me that it was, as you thought, a misspelling prob12:25
fdovingjende, ok :)12:25
morghanphoenixyou must specify a file system type12:26
fdovingok, try with -t vfat12:26
fdovingif it doesn't work, try with -t ntfs12:27
fdovingi thought auto did the job.12:27
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morghanphoenixdecice does not exist?12:27
jendefdoving: shouldn't it be in morghanphoenix's case /dev/sda112:28
morghanphoenixI changed it12:28
fdovingyou have to figure that out yourself. :)12:28
ElectrolyteCan someone explain to me how to disable gam_server?12:29
ElectrolyteIt's really starting to annoy me with it's blasted CPU usage.12:29
Electrolytegoogle isn't giving me very good results :/12:29
morghanphoenixI learned that one after putting a new file system on my home partition form cut and paste directly from irc12:29
fdovingElectrolyte: put 'fsset ext3 notify' at the end of /etc/gamin/gaminrc12:29
ElectrolyteThanks.12:29
morghanphoenixalways check the paths12:29
fdovingElectrolyte: that's if you have ext3 filesystems only. make an additional line for each of your filesystem types, and it will not bother you anymore.12:30
ElectrolyteOnly got ext3 :)12:30
ElectrolyteDo I need to kill gam_server for it to detect the change?12:30
fdovingno, it should work instantly.12:30
ElectrolyteStill using 6% CPU :/12:30
fdovingyou can try to run 'sudo killall -HUP gam_server'12:31
ElectrolyteThat worked - CPU usage to 0% :D12:31
morghanphoenixIt gives me the open in new window option when I plug it in, it just doesn't do anything, doesn't even show up as an icon on my desktop12:31
ElectrolyteThanks!12:31
fdoving:)12:31
fdovingyou're welcome :)12:31
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morghanphoenixI have only one idea left, use my girl's windows box and winscp to copy it from my computer to hers where the device works.12:34
cpk2or plug it into her box and find out the file format?12:35
cpk2err FS12:35
morghanphoenixhow do you do that?12:36
morghanphoenixfat32, the vfat tag?12:37
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fdovingmorghanphoenix: fat32 is vfat in mount/fstab, yes.12:39
morghanphoenixwell, we did that and it said no such device even though it was at /dev/sda112:40
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morghanphoenixI think I may have screwed something up at some point.12:40
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cpk2are you positive its fat32?12:40
morghanphoenixThat's what windows says, and it should know, right?12:41
morghanphoenix80GB FAT32 USB Mass Storage Device.12:41
cpk2one can only hope...12:41
fdovingmorghanphoenix: what happens when you plug it in? do you get the popup-thing?12:42
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morghanphoenixYes, but nothing happens when I tell it to open in a new window.12:42
fdovingoh.12:42
fdovingwhat is the output of 'mount' in konsole?12:43
morghanphoenixI think I may just do a fresh install, I've been meaning to repartition my hard drive anyways.12:43
fdovingis it there at all?12:43
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morghanphoenixNo referance to it, although it mounts as root from sda112:43
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morghanphoenixI can see it, just can't alter it.12:43
morghanphoenixOnly a 5 hour copy on my girl's computer.12:44
morghanphoenixI'm glad winscp works12:44
cpk280 gigs should *not* take 5 hours over a direct connection12:45
morghanphoenixUSB 1.012:45
morghanphoenixOn her box12:45
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esashi, here i am...12:46
esascan somebody help me12:46
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esasi cant send something with mailto:12:46
morghanphoenixbrowser set up to use your mail program for mailto: links?12:47
esasin quanta...12:47
esaswhat?12:47
dudewhat is the comamnd for searching a installed application?12:47
morghanphoenixIn quanta?12:47
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jendedude: sudo apt-cache search12:47
dudetnx12:48
jendedude: man apt ;-)12:48
morghanphoenixI'm going to bed and doing a fresh install in the morning.12:48
morghanphoenixdoesn't apt have --help?12:48
esasyep12:48
morghanphoenixmuch easier to find stuff than man for me.12:48
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cpk2search doesnt tell you if its installed12:49
cpk2policy will tell you if its installed12:49
esasthat's true12:49
esascan somebody help me with the mailto: problem12:49
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morghanphoenixI didn't know you sent things by mailto: in quanta.12:50
morghanphoenixOr am I misunderstanding you?12:50
esasno, i wrote it in code in quanta12:50
dudejende: "apt-cache search" command just to show the info of an installed app12:50
morghanphoenixSo it's in a browser? Which one?12:50
esasfirefox, of course12:50
morghanphoenixDoes mailto: work on other sites?12:51
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dudejende: some of the installed app doesnt show on the K menu12:51
JorixBI use kubuntu 6.06 and when I insert a cd or usb disk then it appears in media:/ but Its not mounted in /media even after I added the cd drives to fstab I still have to right click --> mount on it in media:/ how can I do this automaticly just like suse did.12:51
esasdunnow12:51
jendedude: like which?12:51
morghanphoenixTry it12:51
dudejende: kbfx12:51
morghanphoenixIf it doesn't you need to set up mailto: in your browser.12:52
esaslike, try it in Konqueror, if it doesn't work...12:52
morghanphoenixCan't help you with that one, I'd only use firefox if I had a gun to my head.12:52
esasme too12:52
cpk2dude: right click the kmenu then go to menu editor and then save it12:53
esaso misunderstanding12:53
morghanphoenixbut I think konqueror is automatically set up to use kmail, right?12:53
JorixBdamn i get this endless stream of ksnapshots again like a script starting itself12:53
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esasi would only NOT use firefox, if'd gun to my head12:53
morghanphoenixDid you lean on your print screen key?12:53
jendedude: kbfx is not supposed to be really in the menu, as much as I remember12:53
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dudejende: before downloading an app, there's an info like: section: universe/kde, what does this mean?12:54
morghanphoenixI've done that before, took 50+ snapshots.12:54
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jendedude: that is where the repositories are.12:54
esaswhat12:55
esasi triedvit in konqueror:12:55
dudejende: so how do i run that?12:55
esaswhite page12:55
morghanphoenixI'm gonna play a little rogue and go to bed12:55
jendedude: run what?12:55
morghanphoenixSee you all tomorrow12:55
esaserror: it can't read it12:55
dudejende: so how do i search and run that?12:55
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dudekbfx12:55
jendedude: did you have a look at kbfx?12:56
jendedude: do you know hat kbfx is?12:56
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jendedude: if not do: sudo apt-cache show kbfx12:56
dudejende: no idea12:56
jendedude: do^^^^^^12:57
dudejende: ohh ok, i forgot the apt command12:57
dudejende: my mistake agin12:57
jendedude: no worries12:57
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jendedude: still wanna have it?01:00
dudejende: never mind... :)01:01
dudejende: i can't find it01:01
dudeit oks01:01
jendedude:okay...have you made an sudo apt-cache show kbfx01:01
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dudejende: ya01:02
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jendedude: do this: sudo apt-get clean followed by an sudo apt-get update01:02
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jendedude: otherwise go to www.kbfx.org01:03
_Shade_i cannot run an application, because i get this message: Unhandled exception: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy01:03
_Shade_what can i do to get it work again?01:03
jendedude: don't give up that quick, mate01:04
jende!kbfx01:04
ubotukbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features01:04
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_Shade_so can i do anything with the /dev/dsp?01:05
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jende_Shade_: what kind of apps you can't run anymore?01:08
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wabbitHi all. I am using dapper ubuntu and have just compiled and installed the latest alsa 1.0.1.13 driver lib and utils packages following instructions from http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+HD-audio+and+modem.&chip=ICH6%2C+ICH6M%2C+ICH7%2C+ESB2&module=hda-intel but when I cat /pro/asound/version it displays 1.0.10rc3. Am I missing something?01:10
jendeJucato: hey buddy01:10
Jucatohi jende :)01:10
dude_hi jucato01:11
jendeJucato: where have you been...???01:11
Jucatooh dude_ you're back01:11
Jucatojende: I slept :P01:12
dude_jende: forget kbfx01:13
dude_:)01:13
jendeJucato: doin' better now?01:15
Jucatostill no change01:15
Jucatoomg! the bots just walked out...01:15
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jendeJucato: where about are you anyway?01:17
malcolmI'm having problems with my fd0, it mounted fine, i read from it then i removed the floppy, after i went to read from another floppy it nolonger works, and i can't get it to unmout and remount01:17
Jucatojende: philippines. P01:17
jendeJucato: damn...thats a few K's...;-)01:17
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Jucatoheheh01:17
Jucatojende: and you are from where?01:17
fdovingmalcolm: try 'sudo umount -l /dev/fd0' from konsole.01:17
dude_jucato: where in phils?01:17
jendelower saxony, germany01:18
Jucatooh hi fdoving! :)01:18
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Jucatodude_: Laguna.01:18
fdovinghi jucato. :)01:18
dude_jucato: makati01:18
dude_:")] 01:18
Jucatodude_: hehehe :P01:18
Jucatojende: not that far :)01:18
jendeJucato: *ggg*01:19
dude_ayos01:19
dude_:)01:19
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Jucato!ph01:19
malcolmit lets me remount it now even though it when i did umount it told me it wasn't mounted01:19
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Jucatooh the bots are out.. grr....01:19
Fuzzy76Anyone know how to make links from xchat and kopete open in firefox instead of konqueror?01:19
cpk2so whats this I hear about "nvidia" driver has some security hole?01:19
dude_jucato: age pls01:19
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JucatoFuzzy76: System Settings -> KDE Components -> Default Applications -> Web Browser change to firefox ?01:20
Jucatodude_: this is not the right place to talk about that :P (23)01:20
jendecpk2: yep, I read about it, too on e-eye security, I guess01:20
dude_jucato: ok sorry01:21
Jucatohas anyone confirmed it?01:21
dude_:01:21
cpk2confirmed what?01:21
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Jucatothe security hole01:22
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jendeJucato: e-eye security has, I guess01:22
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cpk2well #ubuntu seemed pretty sure of it01:22
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Jucatohm...01:22
cpk2but you know how quickly they move from a topic in there01:22
windshearhello01:22
windshearany news on the floppy bug?01:22
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windshearanyone has tried it on edgy with kde 3.5.5?01:23
dude_this is not a linux question:01:23
fdovingJucato: run to the nearest computer store, and buy an ati :)01:23
Jucatofdoving: no way lol01:23
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Fuzzy76Jucato, didn't help :(01:24
dude_dont u have plans of organizing an grand  eb? :)01:24
Jucatodude_: huh?01:25
JucatoFuzzy76: still opening in Konqueror?01:25
dude_kubuntu's Grand EB01:25
dude_:)01:25
Fuzzy76Jucato, yes01:25
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jendeFuzzy76: KDE-SYSTEMSETTINGS-STANDARDSOFTWARE-WEBBROWSER01:25
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Jucatodude_: how in the world is that going to happen? we're international you know....01:26
Jucatojende: that's what I told him01:26
cpk2ubuntu news/security doesnt say anything about this nvidia thing...01:26
jendeJucato: it has to work...*grrr*01:26
dude_just a thought01:26
JucatoI think Fuzzy76 needs to do "sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser" as well?01:26
jendecpk2: have you got a link?01:26
cpk2jende: to...?01:26
Fuzzy76I'll try01:27
jendecpk2: to that nvidia issue01:27
Fuzzy76Jucato, that line isn't right...01:27
Fuzzy76svn://localhost/var/lib/svn/fromcvs/quiz01:28
Fuzzy76argh... bad paste01:28
Fuzzy76update-alternatives: unknown argument `x-www-browser'01:28
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JucatoFuzzy76: hm... I think so... jende would you know the proper entry for the browser in /etc/alternatives?01:28
MistaEDooh, would this fix w3m from opening links from xchat?01:28
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Fuzzy76I'm guess yes, MistaED :)01:29
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cpk2http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-6126846.html?part=rss&tag=6126846&subj=news01:29
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dude_be back, have to remove my hair01:30
dude_:)01:30
jendeJucato: not really...as it works perfectly here without doing anything on the console01:31
Jucatorawr!! "sudo update-alternatives --configure x-www-browswer"01:31
Jucatojende: some people have had troubles with Konqueror still being launched even if they changed the default browser to firefox01:31
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JucatoFuzzy76: did you get that?01:32
Jucatocpk2: looks like Windows drivers aren't affected? lol01:32
jendecpk2: nice...not01:32
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jendeJucato:really?01:33
Jucato"The critical flaws were found in Nvidia's Binary Graphics driver for Linux versions 8774 and 8762,"01:33
cpk2i'm not really too worried about it anyways01:33
Fuzzy76Jucato, update-alternatives doesn't have a --configure option01:33
Jucatobtw, I was wondering if there were any official statement from NVIDIA. they seem to be silent01:33
cpk2what are the odds of most people going to a site that will compromise us like that?01:33
JucatoFuzzy76: ugh...01:33
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Jucatocpk2: windows fanboys :P01:34
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JucatoFuzzy76: sorry, my bad. I'm not on Linux right now. "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"01:34
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Jucatohmm.. brb... dinner :)01:35
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Fuzzy76yay!01:36
Fuzzy76jucato is my hero :D01:36
Fuzzy76MistaED, now you try! ;)01:37
jendeFuzzy76: it works now?01:37
MistaEDsweet01:37
Fuzzy76yup. Worked for me :D01:37
jendeFuzzy76: thats good!01:37
Fuzzy76I've been struggling with the same problem before aswell.01:37
MistaEDnice, now links don't open up in that w3m thing01:37
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cpk2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278934 little more info on the nvidia thing for anyone interested01:38
Fuzzy76I had an install 6 months ago I deleted in rage because all links started opening in screem html editor01:38
Fuzzy76completely useless01:38
MistaEDhmm, could this be the cause of mine and dad's machine crashing xorg when accessing a certain website?01:39
MistaEDthe nvidia driver issue i mean01:39
Half-LeftAnyone has a issue with the trash being accessed during startup?01:39
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jendeMistaED: wouldn't really say so.01:40
reonIs  /etc/rc.d/  something from 2.4 kernel days ???01:40
jendecpk2: thanks for both links, quite annoying but nothing much we can do about01:41
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Half-Leftreon: yep, thats why slackware uses it01:42
cpk2well now that I have scared everyone I am going to sleep =)01:43
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jendecpk2: you haven't scared me, cause I haven't got an nvidia01:45
jendecpk2: enjoy yoour sleep01:45
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jendecpk2: <- doesn't surf malicious websites01:45
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jendeas like as noone should01:46
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jendecpk2: lol01:46
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jendeI'll be off for a while...see ya later foolks01:50
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reonHalf-Left, thanks just figured it out. With Debian we have init.d with links to rc[0-xx] .d01:58
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Half-Left:)01:59
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j2daoshanyone in here have wine installed?02:11
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granbarHey02:30
granbarHow can I get the mceusb2 module?02:30
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esas_i've made a programm with quanta, and i want to send a email with mailto: , if i click on send i get a window in Kmail that works but the problem is it won't sent02:32
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granbarDid you configure kmail?02:33
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esas_yes02:33
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esas_?02:36
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esas_does someone now the answer? :-)02:37
esashello esas02:38
esasit's me, esas02:38
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esas_hey esas :p02:39
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esascan someone help us???02:39
Jucatosomeone has a weird case of schizophrenia here.... :P02:39
esaspleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase02:39
esasno, we use the same network, other terminals02:39
esasshe is sitting in front of me02:39
Jucatoah02:39
esas_:-)02:39
esas:)02:39
esas_:p02:39
Jucatowhat's the question? (just came in)02:39
esascan someone help us, with the mailto: problem02:40
Jucatooh...02:40
Jucatohm...02:40
Jucatothat one... pretty clueles.. :(02:41
esasin a browser (firefox), you have a btn, submit, it sends a mail02:41
Jucatoit won't send in KMail?02:41
granbarHey. How do I build the lirc-modules-source?02:41
esasbut the mail won't send02:41
esasnope02:41
esasyou need an account with KMail02:41
esasbut if i want to make one, i have to type something02:41
esasin the configure KMail at Sending/Receiving02:42
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esasi don't know what02:42
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JucatoAsh-Fox: a few 10000 e-mails? any client would freeze :P02:43
Ash-FoxJucato, outlook doesn't.02:43
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Jucatoesas: what e-mail service are you using? if it supports smtp (like most services do), they will probably have some instructions on what info to put in02:44
Ash-FoxAnd I am opposed to using outlook, but this is just annoying. Thunderbird locks up for about five minutes, if I delete ONE e-mail on kmail, the entire thing freezes up for some undetermined amount of time02:44
esase-mail service  (like hotmail)02:44
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Jucatoesas: so you're using hotmail?02:45
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eeosAsh-Fox what version of kmail?02:45
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esasidd02:45
esasindeed02:45
JucatoAsh-Fox: hm.. never froze for me...02:45
granbarHow do I install lirc-modules?02:45
esasdunnow, installed dapper-drake 6.0602:45
Ash-Foxeeos, the one that comes with kde 3.5.5, I'd look uip the version but kmail is currently frozen02:45
psb154lol02:46
eeosah!02:46
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JucatoAsh-Fox: probably a new bug?02:46
eeosAsh-Fox strange it does not freeze on mie02:46
Ash-FoxNo, had this problem back in kde 3.4 too02:46
esaslal02:46
Jucatoweird then...02:46
eeosAsh-Fox sorry mine02:46
Ash-FoxYou probably don't have as many e-mails as I do02:46
eeosAsh-Fox what typo of account?02:47
Ash-Foxright now, pop3.02:47
granbarmake-kpkg02:47
fdovinggranbar: use module-assistant02:47
JucatoAsh-Fox: yeah. just 1k02:47
esas#kubuntu-nl02:47
psb15410 thousand is a lot of feckin e-mails02:47
JucatoAsh-Fox: maybe you could ask around in #kontact if you want to02:47
Ash-Foxpsb154, that's what happens when you have a e-mail address longer than eight years.02:47
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Jucatoif you could download e-mails by batch02:47
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granbarfdoving: Thanks :). But it seems like I can't install build-essentials. ( ... but it's referred to by another package )02:48
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Jucatoesas: I think the problem is that Hotmail doesn't allow pop/smtp so sending through KMail is out of the question (without some 3rd party hack/app)02:48
fdovinggranbar: it's named 'build-essential' without the s.02:48
granbarfdoving: Sorry bout the typo, but still won't work. It's referred to by another package, is what apt-get says.02:49
esasJucato: what do i have to do, then...02:49
Jucatoesas: just use the web mail interface of hotmail (in Konqueror)?02:49
esasjust use Konqueror02:50
JucatoI'm not sure how to configure Konqueror or KDE not to use KMail for mailto:links though02:50
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esasBianca, ge moet da van die printer nog vragen...02:52
esas_nee ale ik heb da al gevraagd he gij moet da vragen02:52
fdoving!be02:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:52
Jucatofdoving: was that belgian?02:52
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esas_yes :-)02:53
fdovingJucato: host says so.02:53
Jucatooh02:53
Jucato:)02:53
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esasthat was dutch02:53
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esas_nico das wel hetzelfde he :-) of ni :-/02:53
esas_ale vraagt gij da nu is van die printer02:53
esasja, maar gij snapt da ni02:53
esasnee, kmoet alte veel doen voor u02:53
fdovingesas, this channel is english only. that's my point.02:53
Jucatoesas_ & esas: you could take your conversation to a private chat, you know02:53
gnomefreaklol02:54
esaso thanks02:54
esas_:-)02:54
esasbut if someone would help us, we wouldn't have the time to chat with each other02:54
esas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:54
fdoving!!!02:54
fdoving!!02:54
Jucato!02:54
fdoving:)02:54
Jucatoesas: if someone knew how to help you, you wouldn't be waiting anyway02:55
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fdovingwhat's their problem?02:55
Jucatoit's not like we actually don't want to help :)02:55
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esasi know, but there are 300 people in this thing, and only 2 answer02:55
gnomefreakguys anyone notice its the same person?02:55
fdovingesas, what's the problem?02:56
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esas_he's wright :p:p02:56
esas_:-)02:56
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Jucatoesas: more than 250 are not active. (just parking)02:56
esaswere not the same person, were using the same network, other terminals02:56
fdovinggnomefreak: they (he/she/it) said something about another user on another computer or something..02:56
abattoiresas & esas_ : you are driving all my friend mad :(02:56
esas_nico you must ask for that printer  :p:p02:56
esasok, 50 persons are online, and only 2 answer02:57
abattoir*friends02:57
fdovingesas, ask again please. what is your problem?02:57
esas_we have a problem with mailto:02:57
esason the dutch 'forum' are only 4 persons, and nobody answers02:57
MetaMorfoziS!mailto02:57
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ubotumailto: WWW Forms to Mail Gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.2-1 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB02:58
MetaMorfoziSbah...02:58
MetaMorfoziSso you need to find about it on wiki.ubuntu.com02:58
fdovingesas, ok, you have a problem with mailto:, what -is- the problem with mailto:?02:58
MetaMorfoziSor whatever, ubuntuforums.org02:58
MetaMorfoziSi think he have thunderbird and firefox with not working mailto /links02:58
esaswe have the code, but on a browser if i want to send the mail, with the link, it won't send, i can't receive the email02:59
MetaMorfoziSuumph.02:59
fdovingesas, you have to explain what the problem is. i don't understand anything.02:59
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kkathmansounds like a programming problem actually02:59
gnomefreaksounds like an html issue with a mailto link02:59
kkathmanyep02:59
esas_fdovind: read the text by the other esas :-)02:59
rahmetlii am uninstalling konsole using purge option in adept,after reinstalling it,it still has the old schemas(changed ones),and i always have problems with saving my own schema in konsole.02:59
kkathmanand this isnt #html or #php03:00
_ian_im using ubuntu 5.10 now i tried using just now kubuntu 6.06 live cd...how come my net connection on kubuntu cant be detected03:00
Ash-Foxhttp://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/kmail-immidiate-filter <- one thing I really love about kmail is the fact it filters e-mails immidately into the appropriate folders and not after it's downloaded them to inbox etc03:00
esasno it isn't the programming is fine, it's the f**king KMail03:00
esasthat's the reason03:00
fdovingesas, if you are programming this is not related to #kubuntu,as this channel is for Kubuntu support, not programming support.03:00
esasit's not the programming, it's KMail03:00
fdovingesas, if you're certain it's a kmail issue, explain the problem.03:01
esasi can't make an account03:01
esasit is something with that Sending/receiving03:01
esas_what must we fill in to create the wright acount?03:01
Ash-Foxesas, what e-mail provider are you using?03:01
Jucatohotmail, iirc03:01
esashotmail03:01
esas_me to :p03:02
esas_:-)03:02
Ash-Foxhotmail requires that you pay for a premium account to use a external mail client03:02
esaswhat???03:02
gnomefreakkmail doesnt do hotmail03:02
Jucatowhich I already told them a while ago...03:02
Ash-Foxgnomefreak, it does, you need to pay a premium :P03:02
gnomefreakit doesnt do yahoo either03:02
esasbut what do i have to do then???03:02
gnomefreakAsh-Fox: by default*03:02
Ash-Foxit does yahoo too, you need to pay for a premium account03:02
Jucatothe Free Hotmail and Yahoo! Mail doesn't work with any e-mail client without the use of 3rd party apps03:02
gnomefreakinstall gotmail03:03
esasin,adept, install gotmail???03:03
Ash-Foxesas, you have to pay money to yahoo or hotmail etc. to use a external mail client. Or some install horrible hack like yahoopops03:03
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fdovingesas, what are you trying to do with kmail? what does this have to do with mailto: ? are you trying to send or receive ?03:03
Jucatognomefreak: will they be able to send from the e-mail client using the hotmail account/address?03:03
gnomefreakgotmail - utility to download email from a Hotmail or MSN account03:03
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esasto send, but i cant receive either03:04
gnomefreakthey would need hotsmtp to send iirc03:04
gnomefreakthere is also a pop one03:04
Jucatowhich is probably far more complicated for them...03:04
gnomefreakhotsmtp - smtp to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway03:04
esaswhat???03:04
gnomefreakhotway - pop3 to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway03:04
fdovingesas, sending has nothing to do with hotmail, you can use the smtp-server of your Internet service provider, the one you pay the cable/dsl/dialup bill to.03:05
gnomefreakthose are the 3 packages03:05
esasand...03:05
Jucatoesas: basically, you need 3rd party apps to be able to use Hotmail with KMail (or any other e-mail client except Outlook)03:05
esasok, then we know that...03:05
gnomefreakfdoving: depends is he sending from his hotmail account?03:05
rahmetlii am uninstalling konsole using purge option in adept,after reinstalling it,it still has the old schemas(changed ones),and i always have problems with saving my own schema in konsole.03:05
fdovinggnomefreak: doesn't matter, i can send with bill@gates.com from my mail client without anyone complaining.03:05
gnomefreakfdoving: yes but not from your hotmail account without added apps03:06
Jucatofdoving: unless he wants to send it as esas@hotmail.com03:06
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fdovingJucato: yes you can.03:06
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Jucatobut not from hotmail, right? only from the smtp of your ISP03:07
v3ctorrahmetli: remove the edited schema from ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole03:07
esasi tried to send to bill@gates.com03:07
Jucato????03:07
fdovingJucato: correct, but using hotmail when you don't -need- to is unneccessary.03:07
esasa window came and i typed something03:07
esasi got this03:07
gnomefreakfdoving: you cant send email from fdoving@hotmail.com from kmail by default03:07
fdovinggnomefreak: sure he can.03:07
esasi got a very large error03:07
rahmetliv3ctor: thanx03:07
v3ctornp03:08
ravariaHI!! can anyone tell me the diference between "sudo" & "su"??03:08
fdovinggnomefreak: you can send with any address. as from: address. even if it's not yours.03:08
fdoving!rootsudo > ravaria03:08
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Jucato!su03:08
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:08
Jucato!sudo03:08
Jucato!sudo03:08
esasok, it's a problem with my host03:08
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fdovinggnomefreak: the problem appears when you want to receive the mails from fdoving@hotmail.com, sending can be done without talking to hotmail.com.03:09
v3ctorravaria: sudo is a newer applicatin that has more features allowing more granulatrity in your asignment of privliges03:09
Jucato!sudo03:09
abattoirJucato: won't work03:09
fdovinggnomefreak: reading can not happen without talking to hotmail.com03:09
Jucatolol03:09
abattoirJucato: since you asked for !su only less than 8 sec. ago03:09
Jucato:P03:09
ravariaso sudo is "best" than su03:09
JucatoI'm impatient :)03:09
Jucato!sudo03:09
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:09
abattoirthere you go :)03:09
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Jucatoravaria: ^^^^^^03:09
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v3ctorravaria: it is a bit better because it does log what the users are doing03:09
abattoirJucato: and i think fdoving already gave the links :)03:10
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ravariaok thanks03:10
Jucatowhere? :)03:10
Jucatooh nvm03:10
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_ian_i ahve a ubutnu 5.10 now im plannoing to upgrade to kubuntnu 6.06 will my files and bookmarks and all the other stuff be retained when i install kubuntu 6.06?03:18
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fdoving_ian_: if you upgrade, it will work. do you plan to upgrade from the internet?03:19
fdovingif you have a broadband connection i will recommend doing that.03:19
granbarI am still unable to apt-get build-essential, fdoving... I'm on edgy.03:20
_ian_no....kinda have a big problem with updating some packages kept back i cnat trouble shoot it since its really complicated and i dont know what to do ive been asking the guys from ubuntu but they say i should just install from a cd to get away from all the hassle03:20
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fdoving_ian_: can you explain what the problem is and pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org) the error messages you get?03:21
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_ian_ok wait a sec03:21
fdovinggranbar: what error message do you get when you try to install build-essential?03:21
granbarfdoving: I must be retarded. I forgot to do an apt-get update first :P03:21
fdovinggranbar :)03:22
granbarfdoving: Well thanks anyway :)03:22
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_ian_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27214/     there thats all the possible things as they tought me03:25
fdovingi'll look at it.03:25
_ian_thnx03:25
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Jucatoyou have not changed any of your repositories to "dapper"03:26
danny500how do I veiw my desktop from anywere in the world?03:26
danny500for ubuntu03:26
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fdovingdanny500: install freenx and make sure you can connect to your computer with ssh. bring a nxclient binary everywhere in the world.03:27
danny500how do I make a nxclient profile for my pc?03:27
fdoving_ian_: do as jucato says, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all 'breezy' to 'dapper'.03:27
fdoving!freenx03:27
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX03:27
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danny500ok03:28
fdovingdanny500: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX03:28
danny500thanx03:28
fdovingyou're welcome.03:28
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danny500can I have multipul accounts?03:28
fdovingyes.03:28
danny500ok03:28
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danny500thanx again thats all I need to know03:28
danny500hey, fdoving03:28
danny500do you have myspace?03:29
fdovingno.03:29
danny500ok03:29
Jucatofdoving has yourspace :P03:29
danny500i bet03:29
Jucatobut probably he has MSN Spaces :P03:29
danny500which one do you guy's think is better? msn spaces or myspace?03:30
fdovingis myspace worth having? what are the spaces for?03:30
danny500!myspace03:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about myspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:30
danny500ok03:30
granbarWhere is hisspace?03:30
Jucatolol03:30
danny500myspace is a place to meet people and show who you are and it makes for a really cool homepage03:31
granbarBut if I'm a nobody?03:31
danny500you have to do some coding to set it up though03:31
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Ash-FoxThen you put music on your webpage and lots of youtube videos03:31
fdovingok, i have a really cool homepage. :)03:31
danny500don't matter03:31
Ash-FoxWhich will make you 'popular' some how.03:31
danny500lol03:31
fdovingeven got a launchpad homepage.03:31
_ian_k ill do that03:31
granbarWhere, fdoving?03:31
fdovinglaunchpad.net/people/frode03:32
fdoving:)03:32
danny500www.myspace.com/gspotforever03:32
granbarAsh-Fox: I've got a myspace, even with a video, but I'm not popular :(03:32
Jucatofdoving: social networking stuff. some are good (Multiply.com), some are half good (Friendster), some are just bad :P03:32
granbarfdoving: Ka er vitsen?03:32
granbarWhat's the point with launchpad?03:32
granbarIs it the same as myspace?03:33
Ash-Foxgranbar, you don't have enough videos then! and what about background music from people like.. linkinpark?03:33
Jucatogranbar: definitely not03:33
granbaroh03:33
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fdoving!no > granbar03:33
Jucato!launchpad03:33
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/03:33
Jucatogranbar: ^^^^03:33
granbarLinkin Park. Alot of people like linkin park03:33
fdoving!no > fdoving03:33
granbarDo you have linkin park on your launchpad, fdoving?03:33
Jucatogranbar: of course he wouldn't03:33
fdovingnot at all :)03:33
danny500lol03:34
Jucatodidn't you read what I pointed to about Launchpad? :)03:34
granbarYes03:34
granbarBut still03:34
granbarYou could add some music03:34
Jucatono03:34
granbarCome on03:34
JucatoLaunchpad is purely for business03:34
Jucatoit's not a social networking service, it is not a webhosting service, it's not a blog03:34
_ian_though i cant edit it.... i can only read it03:34
danny500in open office word proccessor can I setup a way so that when you click on a certaint word it will go to a certiant page?03:34
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fdoving_ian_: are you running kubuntu now?03:35
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_ian_nope...ubuntu03:35
granbarfdoving: What projects are you working on?03:35
danny500does ubuntu have a wmv player?03:35
fdovinggranbar: kubuntu03:35
Ash-Fox!wmv03:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:35
zenzwow i was here 3 times lol03:36
granbarfdoving: Which part?03:36
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fdovinggranbar: here and there, support, bugs, small patches, etc. nothing special.03:36
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Genix|linuxcan someone go to terminal type in alsamixer and tell me the values that each thing is set at?03:36
fdoving_ian_: ok, in a terminal run 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'03:37
Genix|linuxi screwed mine up and now my sound is horrible03:37
fdoving_ian_: that will let you edit it.03:37
Jucato!gksudo03:37
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}03:37
Ash-Fox'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'03:37
JucatoAsh-Fox: _ian_ is on Ubuntu03:37
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granbarfdoving: Cool03:37
Jucato*cough* gksudo *cough*03:37
Ash-FoxJucato, ah.03:37
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Jucato_ian_: please use "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" instead03:38
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gnomefreakGenix|linux: master = 80<>80 base and trebal = 50<>50 pcm = 52<>5203:38
Genix|linuxgnomefreak: that's all you have in there?03:38
hom_hi everyone03:38
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Genix|linuxno like surround or anything?03:38
gnomefreakyep other than headphone 0<>003:38
Genix|linuxdamn03:39
Genix|linuxi have like 15 things03:39
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gnomefreaki have like 603:39
ganeshhello everybody03:39
BluesKajHowdy!03:39
gnomefreak803:39
ganeshiv got a prob with edgy03:39
_ian_jucato nothing showed up with that command i mean the proggram went up but no nothing inside03:39
fdovingganesh: ask :)03:39
yacoobaha, alternative install iso is here. Now, too bad I'm going drinking tonight, probably will not test it... :)03:39
gnomefreakoops03:39
Genix|linuxi have 4203:39
Genix|linuxlol03:39
ganeshwhen i reboot my comp system takes me to run level 303:39
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_ian_fdoving every single instance of breezy i need to change with "dapper" right?03:40
ganeshthe screen goes blank and if i press any of arrow keys init level 3 login comes03:40
Jucato_ian_: oh? then just open "/etc/apt/sources.list"03:40
ganeshfdoving: any idea?03:40
_ian_whe i just open i cant write onto it03:40
fdoving_ian_: yes. breezy -> dapper, breezy-security -> dapper-security and so on.03:40
gnomefreakGenix|linux: suround = 100<>100 center = 100  lfe 100 synth and woave = 80<>8003:41
fdovingganesh: no, i don't experience that on my edgy boxes.03:41
gnomefreakcd = 81<>8103:41
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yacoobabstract kde question, how customizable is bottom bar?03:41
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gnomefreakac97 = 80<>8003:41
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ganeshfolks any idea why this happens03:41
Jucatoyacoob: depends on what you do. it's quite flexible, though03:41
BluesKajOK, Is there a way to switch back and forth between windows and kubuntu without rebooting every time ?03:41
yacoob(aka, can I make it not display running apps, or something similar to osx bar :)03:41
Genix|linuxgnomefreak: thanks a lot03:42
gnomefreakyw03:42
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yacoobBluesKaj, unless you install one in vmware... no ;>03:42
gnomefreakGenix|linux: everything else is either noting or 003:42
Genix|linuxpl03:42
Genix|linuxok*03:42
fdovingganesh: is this a fresh edgy install? or is it upgraded from dapper?03:42
ganeshupgraded from dapper03:42
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BluesKajyacoob:  there used to be a way in suse from the startup page03:43
ganeshfdoving: i am able to start x using startx after i login03:43
JucatoBluesKaj: but that reboots the computer, afaik03:43
fdovingganesh: you can check the 5th line in /etc/inittab if it says 'id:2:initdefault:' and it still takes you to runlevel 3 i don't understnad anything.03:43
ganeshfdoving: will do that right away03:43
fdovingganesh: ah, then you're in runlevel 2 i suspect, but your X just doesn't start.03:43
yacoobBluesKaj, was there? Technically speaking there are possibilities like that, but they require specific installation03:43
ganeshfdoving: that is correct03:44
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BluesKajyeahm yacoob, basically one is just switching partitions03:44
fdovingganesh: does 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' start X ?03:44
fdovingganesh: the login manager, that is.03:44
Genix|linuxgnomefreak: thanks so much man03:45
gnomefreakyw03:45
Genix|linuxmy sound finally doesn't sound AS horrible03:45
JucatoBluesKaj: but that still involves the computer rebooting. you can add a similar menu to your "Restart Computer" option if you enable it in KDM03:45
JucatoI'm just not sure how it works in Kubuntu03:45
Jucato(or if it works at all)03:45
Genix|linuxi mean my surround is still horrible but at least it's not as bad now03:45
Genix|linuxlol03:45
Jucatogah! this flu is killing me!03:45
danny500does anyone know how to make it so that when I click one a certiant word in openofficeword it will take me to another area/page?03:46
BluesKajJucato: ok, i don't see the point of that ...trying to get away from rebooting :)03:46
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ganeshfdoving:in inittab it says id:2:initdefault:03:46
fdovingganesh: correct.03:46
danny500anybody?03:46
JucatoBluesKaj: are you sure that SUSE's "feature" doesn't really reboot your computer?03:46
_ian_ho about this line03:46
_ian_#deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted03:46
Jucato_ian_: leave that commented/disabled03:47
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ganeshfdoving: do i need to change that?03:47
BluesKajbummer Jucato...had the flu a month ago ...was particularly virulent ;(03:47
fdoving_ian_: you can safely delete it or leave it disabled, (# at beginning).03:47
JucatoBluesKaj: I hope my PC doesn't catch my virus :P03:47
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danny500does anyone know how to make it so that when I click on a certiant word in open office word it will take me to another area/page?03:47
danny500linux doesn't have any viruses03:48
BluesKajMy memory isn't real good Jucato...it may have rebooted in suse as well03:48
danny500does it?03:48
fdovingganesh: no, you do not need to. you can try to shutdown X,and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' see if X starts and the login manager appears.03:48
Jucatodanny500: sad to say, I'm on XP :P03:48
danny500oh03:48
danny500windows is only good for playing games03:48
_ian_wait...all the lines with # should not be changged?03:48
Jucatodanny500: I'm not familiar with OO.o. but they might have a way to make hyperlinks?03:48
ganeshfdoving: i will try that03:49
danny500linux is good for every thing else lol03:49
JucatoDannilion: it's also good when you don't have any other pc around03:49
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BluesKajI wish mythtv wasn't so damn complicated to install...looks like a nightmare :(03:49
Jucatoerr. sorry Dannilion that was meant for danny50003:49
fdoving_ian_: all the lines with a # at the beginning are disabled, you do not need to change them, but it's not a bad thing to do.03:49
Jucatodanny500: it's also good when you don't have any other pc around03:49
Jucatoerr... he might remove # from the comments too?03:50
danny500what do you mean?03:50
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Jucatodanny500: my Linux PC is under repair. so I'm using my sister's which is XP-only03:50
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_ian_ok03:50
fdoving_ian_: you should not enable them by removing the # at the beginning, you should just change breezy -> dapper, understand?03:50
danny500o lol you probably hate it to eh03:50
fdovingJucato: get a livecd :)03:51
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_ian_so all the lines with the # i need not to change right?03:51
Jucatodanny500: yeah. I have barely used XP for almost 5 months... now I've been using it for almost 5 days... :(03:51
BluesKajI eventually hope to use kubuntu as my main OS but unsupported hardware drivers and conflicts are preventing me from switching over completely , and I'm not even a gamer :)03:51
danny500lol03:51
fdoving_ian_: you do not need to, correct.03:51
Jucatofdoving: er.. yeah, and setup everything again everytime I reboot? :P03:51
danny500that sucks/03:51
_ian_ok....03:52
danny500just make a smae partition03:52
Jucatonow if only Kubuntu would release a Live CD where you can save settings on a USB or a HDD, then I would love it :)03:52
danny500make a small partition on her computer03:52
WoodwardAvedoes the kde 3.5.5 release for kubuntu have any major bugs?03:52
fdovingJucato: the open office thing: select text -> find hyperlink button in the tooolbars, use it :)03:52
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danny500how big is the hard drive?03:52
Jucatofdoving: redirect to danny50003:52
fdovingJucato: sorry :)03:53
danny500I did that03:53
Jucatoit barely has 5GB left, btw03:53
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danny500o lol thats a windows cpu for you lol03:53
Jucatofdoving: besides, with 256MB RAM only, I doubt I'd enjoy using the Live CD03:53
fdovingJucato: this is for you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent03:53
_ian_wow it worked .....waiting for downloads thouggh ill update you if theres problems thanks03:53
Genix|linuxok i got another problem03:53
danny500what?03:53
Jucatodanny500: nah. this creature as a 120GB HDD. my sister has just used up all the space....03:53
danny500with what?03:54
Jucatodanny500: I don't even want to know. lots of stuff...03:54
danny500lol03:54
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Genix|linuxi tried to change the default media player to vlc by right clicking on the avi file and going to open with and then other then choosing vlc and clicking the box that says remember application association for this type of file03:54
danny500bsb downloads lol03:54
Genix|linuxbut it still always opens in kaffeine03:54
_ian_im now doing sudo upgrade03:54
BluesKajJucato: prolly movies03:55
_ian_and its downloading stuff03:55
Genix|linuxand i can't remove kaffeine i don't think03:55
Jucatofdoving: I've seen that before. unfortunately I currently don't have a USB drive large enough for it. is it possible to do that on a HDD instead?03:55
Genix|linuxanyone know?03:55
JucatoBluesKaj: and music I guess03:55
Jucato_ian_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (since you're going to Dapper)03:55
fdovingJucato: i can't think of any reason it wouldnt work with a hd.03:55
danny500how old is your sister?03:55
danny500jucato03:56
BluesKajmp3s don't tke much space ...wav and mov files are a diff story03:56
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danny500jucato>how old is your sis?03:56
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Jucatodanny500: 27 last I checked. why'd you want to know? :P03:57
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JucatoBluesKaj: she has *lots*03:57
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danny500just wondering03:57
_ian_oops....its already downloading will that mess that up/03:57
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danny500yeah it's prob movies and music03:57
JucatoGenix|linux: try to check in Konqueror > Settings > Configure Konqueror > File Associations03:57
Genix|linuxok03:57
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stylus90Man03:58
stylus90LINUX COol03:58
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stylus90Eh03:58
stylus90KUBuntu Birthday?03:58
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Genix|linuxJucato: thanks man03:59
Genix|linuxthat worked03:59
Jucato:)04:00
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Genix|linuxdamn it04:10
Genix|linuxmy wine stopped working right04:11
BluesKajsplittsville04:11
Genix|linuxanyone get shockwave or flashplayer working without wine?04:11
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Jucatobut not that big netsplit :)04:11
abattoirJucato: there was a netsplit?04:12
BluesKajtried fashplyer 7 but it doesn't work on a lotta sites that require the new 8 vers04:12
_ian_how will i know if upgrade is done?04:12
Jucatoa mini-netsplit :)04:12
Jucato_ian_: you're thrown back to the command prompt. but since you only used "upgrade" there are still updates not installed I'm sure04:12
_ian_yep im doing dist upgrade now04:13
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granbarfdoving: Do you think there exists lirc binary modules? I'm having problems compiling them.04:15
|lostbyte|Kopete takes alot of processage usage..04:16
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|lostbyte|anyone experiancing this ?04:16
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Jucato|lostbyte|: in KDE 3.5.5?04:16
|lostbyte|Jucato, yes.04:16
Jucatoafaik, that shouldn't be (at least 0.12.2 in KDE 3.5.4)04:16
divansantanaany one know news on when edge will be released?04:17
Jucatodivansantana: target date Oct 2604:17
divansantanabelieve RC1 is due tomorrow.... hope it still is cause there was talk of a delay...04:17
Jucato!schedule04:17
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:17
fdovinggranbar: no idea.04:17
|lostbyte|Jucato, :o04:17
divansantanakewl04:17
granbarfdoving: k04:18
Genix|linuxdo you guys use synaptic for upgrading and stuff?04:18
Genix|linuxgui wise04:18
Genix|linuxnot like command line04:18
divansantanaI use synaptic for gui, not adept, even though am major kde fan04:19
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divansantanabut mainly apt-get unless need gui for simple reasons...04:19
Jucatoadept is.... um... still a baby...04:19
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Jucatoaptitude CLI, not the ncurses GUI04:20
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divansantanamaybe edge adept, will be better, but synaptic seems much much better04:20
asimonI use adept when not using aptitude.04:20
divansantanahope adept will catchup04:20
Jucatodivansantana: well, definitely not yet in Edgy :P04:20
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divansantanaJucato: is there no new adept in edgy ? ? ? :(04:20
Jucatounfortunately, nothing new (last I checked)04:21
divansantanaGreat - thanks for popping my bubble ;) Darn, thats a pity, will see...04:21
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Jucatoprobably some bug fixes here and there04:21
Jucatobut nothing drastically new like System Settings04:21
divansantanawhat is adv of aptitude over apt-get ??04:21
Jucatohandling of metapackages basically04:22
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Jucatosmarter handling of packages, probably04:23
_ian_is itnormal for a lot of packages to be held back while dist-upgrade and for firefox to be removed/04:23
Jucatohm...04:23
divansantanao ok thanks04:23
zorglu_why shipit doesnt provide edgy ?04:24
Jucato_ian_: I'm not entirely sure. but yes, dist-upgrade would remove some packages04:24
Jucatozorglu_: no04:24
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zorglu_there is something i dont understand about the status of edgy, is it the next stable version or developerement version04:24
ChousukeIt will be the next stable04:25
Jucatozorglu_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14#head-1e3555bea7bd06018bbadcf89ed23281e09d78f104:25
zorglu_looking04:25
Jucatozorglu_: it's the next stable version, but not the LTS04:25
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BluesKajthe next stable version is available Oct 26 ...heh, I'll prolly wait for a day or 2, til the dust settles to DL it.04:26
zorglu_Jucato: what is the difference between 'stable version' and 'lts' ?04:26
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Genix|linuxaptitude is gui?04:27
Mr_GTo enable the slow query log, start mysqld with the --log-slow-queries[=file_name]  option.04:27
Jucatozorglu_: LTS = Long Term Support04:27
Mr_Ghow to start mysql with this program ?04:27
JucatoGenix|linux: there's an ncurses GUI for aptitude.04:27
Mr_Gi always use service mysqld start04:27
zorglu_Jucato: i understood that, but this doesnt explain the difference between 'long term support' and 'stable version'04:28
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Genix|linuxhmm04:28
Genix|linuxncurses i should check that out04:29
Genix|linuxaptitude is just apt-get right04:29
Genix|linuxor no04:29
Jucatonot really04:29
Genix|linuxsorry i'm a n00b04:29
Genix|linuxso how do i use aptitude?04:29
Gremjust did some updates to kubuntu edgy packages, rebooted, and now kubuntu boots in console :S no errors or such. if I try startkde I get a bunch of Segmentation faults04:30
ChousukeGenix|linux: just like you would use apt-gete04:30
Chousuke-e04:30
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JucatoGenix|linux: like "sudo aptitude update" or "sudo aptitude install <package>"04:30
ChousukeGenix|linux: except that aptitude unifies apt-cache and apt-get04:30
Jucatoto use the GUI, just type in "aptitude"04:30
v3ctorGenix|linux: to use the ncurses interface just type aptitude04:30
v3ctoror: sudo aptitude04:31
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Gremis there a chan dedicated to kubuntu edgy eft ?04:33
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Jucatozorglu_: basically they're both stable. LTS just means that they're going to be focusing the support for it far longer than your regular stable release04:33
Jucatoso it's going to be a lot like Debian's stable releases (Sarge)04:33
zorglu_Jucato: ok thanks04:33
JucatoGrem: #ubuntu+1 is for general Edgy04:34
Gremtks04:34
_ian_how will i know if i successfully upgraded my dist?04:34
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Jucato_ian_: try typing "lsb_release -a" in Konsole04:34
v3ctorLTS is geared towards companies or people that don't want to upgrade regularly04:34
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_ian_still 5.1004:35
Jucato:(04:35
Jucatotry dist-upgrading again? (you mentioned some packages were held back)04:35
zorglu_v3ctor: yep to people which want to keep their machines running without upgrade issue :)04:35
v3ctoryes04:35
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zorglu_surprisingly me understanding what is edgy make me decides not to update :)04:36
v3ctorthe non-LTS stable are for those that want "stable" but more cutting edge04:36
Jucatoheh04:36
Jucatoand Edgy is more than just "more cutting edge". hence the name04:36
Jucatoso in a sense, Edgy might be less stable as compared to Dapper or Edgy+1. *might* be04:37
zorglu_'cutting edge' is just a cool word for 'unstable' and 'buggy' :)04:37
Jucatozorglu_: not really. you can still have cutting edge without being unstable04:37
v3ctorzorglu_: no..that is bleeding edge ;)04:37
Jucatolol04:37
Jucatoterminologies...04:37
v3ctorlol04:37
zorglu_:))))04:37
Jucatoyou get cut, you bleed :p04:37
djclue917zorglu_: Bleeding edge is better. ;-)04:38
Jucatogah.. mucus is getting into my brain04:38
Jucatowhoa djclue917!!!04:38
Jucatolong time :)04:38
djclue917Jucato: yup. I've been busy with acad stuff.04:38
Jucatogood for you :)04:38
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Genix|linuxv3ctor, Chousuke, and Jucato thanks04:39
Jucatohm.04:39
Jucato!aptitude04:39
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide04:39
JucatoGenix|linux: I forgot that one ^^^^^^04:40
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Gremso aptitude > apt-get ?04:41
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nonainoola alguien habla espaol04:42
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v3ctor!es04:42
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:42
JucatoGrem: depends on the person using :)04:42
octanhi all04:42
v3ctorhi octan04:42
Grem:)04:42
Jucato"better" or ">" is quite subjective :)04:42
octanhow is the ubuntu server distro ?04:42
Gremhehe yeah04:42
octancompared to debian04:42
v3ctoroctan: not bad04:42
octanim using debian sarge on my server and i want a upgrade04:42
CVirus!flash04:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:42
v3ctori still use debain for my servers though04:42
Grembut removing dependencies installed with a package seems really nice04:42
v3ctorstill testing ubuntu server04:43
JucatoGrem: nice, if you want it. sometimes aptitude can be annoying when it tries to be smarter than you :)04:43
octanv3ctor, have you tested the ubuntu server version ?04:43
octanahh04:43
GremJucato, I see =)04:43
v3ctoroctan: i am currently testing ;)04:43
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octanv3ctor, so far its good? anything i should keep in mind ?04:44
v3ctori haven't noticed anything *bad* so far04:44
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v3ctorbut i have not noticed enough im provement to make the switch either04:45
octandoes it come with a X or is it only cli ?04:45
v3ctorcli04:45
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octan:)04:45
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v3ctorbut...you can easily add x04:45
octani dont need X04:45
v3ctori also have been using it to install my desktops too04:45
octanadmining is done on the cli :P04:45
v3ctoryup04:46
v3ctorno x on any of my servers04:46
_ian_nothing hapopoens now04:46
Jucato_ian_: when you try to dist-upgrade?04:46
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Jucatowhat happened when you tried to dist-upgrade a second time? it donwloaded more stuff?04:47
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IceGuest_5!gigabyte GN-WP01GS04:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gigabyte GN-WP01GS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:49
IceGuest_5!GN-WP01GS04:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about GN-WP01GS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:50
JucatoIceGuest_5: you might have better luck with Google...04:50
IceGuest_5tried, I can't find anithing useful04:51
Jucato:(04:51
IceGuest_5gigabyte GN-WP01GS is making problems04:51
IceGuest_5first it works from live CD04:51
IceGuest_5now when instaleed it is'nt04:51
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IceGuest_5kubuntu is great, fast and prety, bat WIFI04:53
IceGuest_5HELL04:53
fdoving!language04:53
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:53
BluesKajI have a prog in the K-menu but it won't launch...it launches ok from the Desktop, but why is it listed in the the kicker if it won't open from there ?04:53
JucatoBluesKaj: maybe the command in K Menu isn't correct?04:54
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IceGuest_5ok, back to manual04:54
BluesKajok, how do i correct it?04:54
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JucatoBluesKaj: right-click on the entry in K Menu, choose Edit this Item, then compare it with the launcher on your dekstop?04:55
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_ian_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27223/04:55
nonainoola alguien habla espaol04:55
BluesKajwhat's the path for k-menu anyway ?04:55
zorglu_!es04:56
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:56
nonainojajaja perdon k sea tan pesao es pa k m pongais los canales04:56
JucatoBluesKaj: what do you mean?04:56
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BluesKajif I remove the prog from the k-menu can i replace it with working version ?04:56
zorglu_an alternative would be the 'kmenuedit' command line tool04:56
Jucato_ian_: could you please pastebin again your current sources.list04:57
Jucatozorglu_: it's not a command line tool....04:57
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zorglu_ok this is a tool launchable from command line ?04:57
JucatoBluesKaj: you can just copy the working command from the desktop launcher and paste it in the appropriate field in the menu editor04:58
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zorglu_Jucato: not trivial to find vocabulary that suit you :)04:58
Jucatozorglu_: heheh! it's launchable from Alt+F2 as well :)04:58
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Jucatocommand line tool would be something like apt-get. :)04:58
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BluesKajI tried editing the k-menu and adding the new item and it looks good , but it still won't launch from the k-menu :(05:02
Jucatohm... that's strange then...05:02
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_ian_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27224/05:02
Jucato_ian_: ok I'll look into it05:03
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Jucato_ian_: by any chance, from the philippines?05:04
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BluesKajJucato, what do you mean by "working command "and where would I find it ?05:04
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JucatoBluesKaj: working command would be the command used, working directory would be the path where the command is05:05
Jucato_ian_: you basically have a very messed up sources.list...05:05
_ian_i am fromt he phil05:06
Jucato_ian_: pareho lang tayo :P05:06
_ian_lol05:06
_ian_tulong!!!!05:06
abattoir!ph05:06
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog05:06
Jucato_ian_: ok. (but speak in English here :P )05:07
Jucatoabattoir: yeah I got it. :)05:07
abattoir:P05:07
Jucatojust taking over for fdoving actually :)05:07
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Jucato(besides, very few Kubuntu users in #ubuntu-ph so I didn't bother lol)05:07
abattoircreate a #kubuntu-ph ;)05:08
Jucatolol05:08
JucatoI think not :)05:08
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fladdhi everyone! I have a question about the look of kubuntu: I have a resolution of 1280x800 on my laptop. In my opinion everything is a bit too big. In windows everything is in a way more compact (on the same resolution). Is there anything I can do about it?05:09
Jucato_ian_: hold on, I'm basically rewriting your sources.list05:10
v3ctorfladd: lower the font size and change the icon size05:11
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kerianfladd: I know what you're talking about... my advice is to play around with different themes until you find one that works for you05:14
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_ian_sure man05:15
kerianyou can adjust most of the fonts and sizes used for everything under System Settings -> Appearance05:15
kerianthe trick is figuring out which settings you want to fiddle with :)05:16
BluesKajwhy is it so difficult to move something into the k-menu ... nothing works05:16
fladdkerian, any advices on themes?05:16
Jucato_ian_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27226/  corrected sources.list05:16
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Jucato_ian_: basically you had a messed up sources.list. some where still in breezy. and some were just plain disabled05:17
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kerianhmm... one of the "crystal" variations has controls for nearly all of the widget sizes05:17
_ian_how did that happen in the first placve i never opened that file...ever05:17
kerianI think that's what I use on my subnotebook05:17
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kerianfladd: another piece of advice... alt+right click and drag is your friend :P05:18
Jucato_ian_: probably when you first changed it a while ago05:18
_ian_might be05:19
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mendredhi are there any kubuntu packages for openoffice 2.0.4?05:22
Jucato!openoffice.org dapper05:22
ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB (Only available for amd64 ia64)05:22
Jucatomendred: probably not yet, at least not in Dapper05:23
Jucato!openoffice.org edgy05:23
ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB05:23
mendredshucks05:23
JucatoEdgy has it though05:23
mendredhope they backport it05:23
Jucatohopefully05:23
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orient2000Hi guys maybe somebody can help me. I am sick and tired of this message. It comes up every time I click update manager.05:26
orient2000W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371805:27
zorglu_orient2000: install the key of this repository05:27
jerreeven i am getting this message05:27
orient2000where can I find it?05:27
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Jucatofrom the easy source page I guess05:28
zorglu_let me look05:28
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zorglu_http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html <- orient2000 seems to be that05:29
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nonainoola alguien habla espaol05:29
zorglu_!Es05:29
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:29
orient2000thanks I am going to check it ouut.05:30
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Jucatough.. EasyUbuntu :)05:32
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chowsapalnot at home right now or i could check, but does the kubuntu dapper livecd include knetworkmanager and wpasupplicant?05:33
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nonainoespaol05:34
nonainoalguien habla espaol05:34
fdoving!es05:34
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:34
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Jucato!knetworkmanager dapper05:35
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB05:35
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chowsapalJucato: does that mean it's on the liveCD? :)05:40
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Jucatochowsapal: er.. I don't know. I was just checking what it was. :(05:40
chowsapalgotcha :)05:40
chowsapalgives a GUI interface for WPA / wireless config05:40
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zorglu_q. i use kopete 0.11.1 and i crash as soon as i do 'configure -> devices'. the webcam working without any issue with other apps. any suggestion ?05:46
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zorglu_#kopete says it is possible to do video with msn with kopete 0.11 and i would like to try05:46
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BonBonTheJonzorglu_: that is a known bug, try upgrading05:47
zorglu_upgrading what ? :)05:47
JucatoKopete (and KDE probably?_05:47
zorglu_     4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1~dapper1 005:48
zorglu_        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/main Packages05:48
zorglu_is the one i got in the repository...05:48
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Jucatoooh so Kopete 0.12.2 has finally hit backports :)05:48
Jucatozorglu_: yep upgrade to that one05:48
zorglu_well i wont update kde without knowing how stable it is :)05:48
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SDYI seem to have an internet-connection problem over here, who can help me with that?05:49
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zorglu_i need my box to run :)05:49
zorglu_i think i need a crash box to test the stability of the update :)05:49
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archangel_I need to update my flash05:49
archangel_how do i?05:49
Jucatozorglu_: you don't need to upgrade KDE to get Kopete 0.12.2 since it's in dapper-backports already (afaik)05:50
zorglu_Jucato: 4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1~dapper1 0 <- this doesnt require kde 3.5.4 ?05:50
BonBonTheJon!kopete05:50
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB05:50
zorglu_BonBonTheJon: this is the one i got, the bugged one :)05:50
Jucatozorglu_: oh my bad05:50
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SDYMy internet stopt working in kubuntu whili it still works in winxp, every settin05:51
zorglu_it is ok, i will wait a bit :)05:51
SDYg seem to be ok05:51
Jucatobut at least KDE 3.5.3 is stable05:51
BonBonTheJonSDY: can you ping05:51
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SDYno I can't05:51
zorglu_Jucato: ok05:51
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BonBonTheJonSDY: do 'lspci' and see if it mentions your network card05:52
SDYIt does, my network card is perfectly vissible, it is even working,05:53
SDYI just don't get any traffic05:53
BonBonTheJonSDY: do 'ifconfig' to see if you have an ip address05:54
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SDYBonBonTheJon: any more ideas? I'm working in winxp right know (so I have connection)05:55
BonBonTheJonSDY: try 'ifconfig' to see if you have an ip address05:56
BonBonTheJonSDY: try 'dhclient eth0' to try to get a new ip address05:56
zorglu_!ipv605:56
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv405:56
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zorglu_this may be a cause of trouble too05:56
BonBonTheJonzorglu_: true05:56
SDYBonBonTheJon: Have tried that, but i do not work with dhcp...05:57
BonBonTheJonSDY: so you have an ip address but can't ping.... hmm05:58
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BonBonTheJonSDY: yeah, try disabling ipv605:58
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SDYand how would i do that05:58
SDY?05:58
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BonBonTheJon!ipv605:59
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv405:59
BonBonTheJonzorglu_: sorry, he must have missed you doing that05:59
SDYubotu: thanks05:59
ubotuThanks for the help!05:59
zorglu_BonBonTheJon: no problem :)05:59
zorglu_SDY: ubotu is a bot :)06:00
SDYzorglu_: newbie, me? What made you think that...06:02
zorglu_:)06:03
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SDYBonBonTheJon: But this can't really be the problem since it worked fine before today06:04
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SDYBonBonTheJon: besides, my mainboard (onboard lan) is just a couple of days old...06:04
BonBonTheJonSDY: well, what changed in the mean time06:05
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SDYBonBonTheJon: nothing special, turn my pc down yesterday, restarted today, bang, stopt working06:06
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BonBonTheJonSDY: how did you tell it to get the address06:08
BonBonTheJonSDY: during install?06:08
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SDYBonBonTheJon: which address, IP? Via system settings06:10
BonBonTheJonSDY: ok06:10
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SDYBonBonTheJon: I have also checked te /etc/network/whatsthenameagain file06:11
SDYBonBonTheJon: seemed to be allright06:11
BonBonTheJonSDY: I don't know, but I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2555706:12
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SDYBonBonTheJon: i'll be reading...06:13
BonBonTheJonSDY: print that out or something, and try what it says, and come back and tell me if you figured it out06:14
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SDYBonBonTheJon: ok06:15
davideciao ragazzi06:16
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davidec' qualcuno?06:16
davidevorre 1 aiuto06:16
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BonBonTheJon!it06:16
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:16
davideper chi ha da poco lasciato WInzozzo06:16
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davidesorry06:19
BonBonTheJondavide: thats ok06:20
davidei didn't know it was an english channel06:20
davidesorry another time06:20
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BonBonTheJondavide: if you have a question we can try to help you06:21
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davidethank u BonBon06:21
davidewell06:21
davidei want to install a printer06:21
davidei.e. a canon i25006:21
davidei downloaded the drivers06:21
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davidebut now i don't know how it's possible to install them06:22
trappist!enter06:22
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.06:22
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Jucatolol06:22
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davidebob have u understood?06:24
BonBonTheJondavide: i think you mean me, i do understand, i'm looking up the answer06:24
davideah thank you06:24
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davideit's a .gz file06:25
davidei've decompressed it06:26
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davideand now i don't know what file i have to use06:26
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backlashHas anyone tried the new edgy release?06:28
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BonBonTheJonbacklash: i know some people have, but they have said that not too much is different, beside eyecandy06:29
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backlashDoes it look promiseing at all for a new version?06:30
rafmadsta bene06:30
rafmadi tried the upgrade06:30
rafmad"kernel panic"06:30
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backlashdid you not like it?06:30
JucatoBonBonTheJon: well there are under the hood differences too06:31
slow-motionhallo06:31
rafmadciao06:31
Jucatonew kernel, new init system (upstart), better USplash, new KDE, new packages, etc.06:31
BonBonTheJonJucato: what version of kde is in it06:31
Jucato3.5.506:32
BonBonTheJonJucato: I have that for dapper06:32
kkathmanditto06:32
backlashyeah I just upgraded to the new kde package today06:32
rafmadi too06:32
backlashbut being new to linux, just installed this last night, I do not notice much differences06:33
JucatoBonBonTheJon: yes, but Dapper's is an "unofficial" update. Edgy's is default06:33
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rafmadbut what about KDE 4?06:33
BonBonTheJonJucato: true06:33
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n8k993.5.5 is mostly bug fixes there are not real noticeable changes06:33
Jucatorafmad: still far away I'm afraid06:33
nonainoespaol06:33
BonBonTheJondavide: i'm still looking into it06:33
nonainoalguien habla espaol06:33
n8k99!es06:33
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:33
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backlashhow long have you all been useing linux?06:34
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stokedfishonly 3 years06:34
Jucato10 months now06:34
Jucato:)06:34
stokedfishhm no 406:34
backlashdo you use it as your default oS?06:34
BonBonTheJonfull time about 3 years, i first tried it in 199806:34
HawkwindIs there any other OS to use ?06:34
HawkwindHah06:34
BonBonTheJonbacklash: yeah06:34
Jucatoyes, until a few days ago when my Linux box broke down...06:34
backlashahah yea06:35
Jucatonow I have to use the dreaded OS of the quad-colored butterfly...06:35
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backlashI dual boot xp and linux06:35
backlashwow06:35
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backlashthat's awsome06:35
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HawkwindI wiped my dual boot of Linux/Windows after only 10 days on Linux.  I never looked back06:35
BonBonTheJondavide: have you tried to install it in the control center06:36
Jucatonot really, considering how some people have used Macs solely for more than that time :)06:36
stokedfishyes backlash, default OS here...I still use windows to synchronize my Palm though06:36
BonBonTheJonstokedfish: have you tried kpilot06:36
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n8k99year and half06:36
backlashI am mostly into video editing, yet I am sad to see that not many editing programs work in lunix, or I havn't looked deep enough06:36
stokedfishBonBonTheJon: yes but too much is missing imho06:36
BonBonTheJonstokedfish: like what06:37
Jucatostokedfish: I think there's a project on the way called opensync06:37
BonBonTheJon!opensync06:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opensync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:37
BonBonTheJonJucato: i think the new project is supposed to be included in kde406:38
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JucatoBonBonTheJon: it's a fdo project, iirc06:38
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nonainoalguien habla espaol06:39
Jucato!es06:39
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:39
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backlashdoes anyone use linux to do any video editing, or 3D work?06:40
Jucatomaybe, with Kino or Blender probably06:40
n8k99backlash: you can use blender for 3d work06:40
zorglu_blender is rather good06:40
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kkathmanBlender for 3D work definitely I'd say06:40
zorglu_video editing is a lot more poorly represented tho06:40
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backlashblender is complicated06:40
stokedfishBonBonTheJon: some things you can't synchronize...applications like sunrise, plucker (offline webreader) etc...also, I never got my Palm TX to work at all...can't sync it  (my old Palm worked but now I switched) - I'll look into all that again as soon my second box is set-up...06:41
n8k99i also believe that pixar has pushed some of their linux apps back towards teh community06:41
zorglu_well doing 3d work is not an easy task06:41
backlashI come from Cinema 4D and maya06:41
kkathmanwell, 3d work is complicated06:41
backlashI know that06:41
zorglu_backlash: maya is available on linux i think06:41
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JucatoI think blender looks a lot more like Lightwave than Maya or 3DS Max06:41
BonBonTheJonstokedfish: i got my tx to work by setting kpilots port to 'net:all' and syncing wirelessly06:41
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backlashhow can I get maya to work on linux06:42
hadeshi people !06:42
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hadesive got problems with wifi with kubuntu06:42
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hadesone is on my stational computer06:42
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zorglu_backlash: at a given point, maya was providing its software on linux, i dont know the current status. check their website06:42
BonBonTheJonstokedfish: 'net:any' i just looked it up06:42
hadesive got wl54g-pci06:42
hadesand laptop is d-link dwl-g63006:43
hadespcmcia06:43
BonBonTheJonhades: what is the problem06:43
hadesive checked all the formus and ...06:43
stokedfishBonBonTheJon: you got the TX to work? holy shit...that's awesome news man...are you often here in the irc? I'll come back to you if that's okay...right now I'm a bit too busy with work06:43
backlashhas anyone heard about anything related to video editing on linux?06:43
hadesBonBonThejon: the problem is to make wifi working06:43
BonBonTheJonstokedfish: i keep it up basically all the time06:43
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backlashI would think that linux would be great for it since it runs with little background apps and can give full power to the programs06:44
hadesBonBonThejon: to connect to the wifi net06:44
BonBonTheJonstokedfish: you just connect the tx to wifi, and you can connect wirelessly06:44
kkathmanbacklash:  try typing *linux video editing* in google...yu might see alot of things :)06:44
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zorglu_backlash: if you find one which works, tell me :) i looked for one for a long time without success. i only found halfbacked one.06:44
hadesBonBonThejon: to make the devices seeable bye the system06:44
stokedfishBonBonTheJon: are you using a PIM app as well? like kontact or evolution? I used to sync with kontact...06:44
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zorglu_backlash: the best i has seen is 'pitivy' from gstream guy but it is still beta06:45
BonBonTheJonhades: do 'lspci' to see if it is recognized06:45
stokedfishBonBonTheJon: I have no wi-fi...doesn't it work the old-fashioned way?06:45
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BonBonTheJonstokedfish: it syncs with kontact06:45
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BonBonTheJonstokedfish: i have only gotten the cable to work a few times, where as wireless works every time06:45
hadesBonBonTheJon: hmmm it is recognized06:46
stokedfishBonBonTheJon: I'll get a wireless upgrade then...seriously06:46
BonBonTheJonhades: what chipset does it have, broadcom or atheros or other06:46
stokedfishI could finally ditch crappy windows...hate it06:46
hadesBonBonTheJon: but when i am using yhr wlassasistant i cant see any network06:46
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hadesBonBonTheJon: i think other06:47
backlashkkathman: I tried that and I am doing a search right now06:47
BonBonTheJonhades: what brand06:47
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lipesomeone can send me, or tell me where can i download the iostream.h lib ... that stays in /usr/nclude ?!?!?!06:47
hadesBonBonTheJon: RaLink06:47
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hadesBonBonTheJon: RT250006:47
BonBonTheJonhades: RaLink? not dLink?06:47
lipesomeone can send me, or tell me where can i download the iostream.h lib ... that stays in /usr/nclude ?!?!?!06:48
hadesBonBonTheJon: no i am talking not about the laptop but the station computer with pci card06:48
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lipesomeone can send me, or tell me where can i download the iostream.h lib ... that stays in /usr/nclude ?!?!?!06:48
hadesBonBonTheJon: so ... on the station one is the WL54g-PCI (RT2500)06:48
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NightBirdlipe, do you have a c++ compiler installed?06:49
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lipejust g++06:49
faLUCE Hi all, do you know if GCJ, when "compiling" java code, forces always a CNI port (java--->c++) or it "translate" directly Java code into machine code? thnks06:50
BonBonTheJonhades: i found this http://www.flamingspork.com/blog/2005/01/14/rt2500-wireless-pci-card-on-ubuntu/ where some one installed a rt250006:50
NightBirdhm... then you should have the include file and libraries...06:50
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NightBirdlipe, try reinstalling the build-essentials package06:50
backlashhas anyone tried xawtv06:50
lipeNightBird: but it isn't here ..06:50
lipeNightBird: ok ... thx u06:51
hadesBonBonTheJon: Thanks06:51
BonBonTheJonhades: you are going to need internet access to install the software06:52
hadesBonBonTheJon: maybe You can fidn something about AirplusG ( D-Link) DWL-G630 (PCMCIA)06:52
AbortDwhat is the hotkey for system monitor in kde?06:52
hadesBonBonTheJon: I have right now the i-net but from a cable06:52
Captain_RedbeardHmm is there a nice network traffic monitor for KDE? that shows connections, ports etc? much like netstat but as an application with a GUI?06:52
kkathmanAbortD:   ctrl+esc06:52
AbortDHOLY MOSES SOMEONE FINALLY GAVE ME A HUMAN RESPONSE06:53
AbortDkkathman: can i ask you a question06:53
kkathmanheh06:53
AbortD?06:53
Jucato???06:53
kkathmanwell you can ask :)06:53
AbortDwhat is a hotkey?06:53
kkathmanshortcut06:53
AbortDis it ps aux or is it ctrl esc?06:53
hadesBonBonTheJon: i have problems with wifi on 2 computers as I told You before laptopm and a station one ...06:53
Jucatokeyboard shortcut06:53
kkathmanctrl+esc is the shortcut/hotkey for the system tasks that are running06:54
zorglu_'ps aux' is a command, like the ones you can use in a terminal06:54
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BonBonTheJonhades: yeah, the dlink shouldn't be too hard, i have the dwl-g650, which i imagine are similar06:54
kkathmanyou use ps aux at a konsole or terminal line (i.e. CLI)06:54
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zorglu_btw what 'CLI' stands for ?06:55
hadesBonBonTheJon: maybe ...06:55
kkathmanCLI = command line interface06:55
hadesBonBonTheJon: i have this laptop turned on so u can tell me what to do ...06:55
AbortDthank you06:55
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Captain_RedbeardAnyone? I need an application that shows connections and request and what ports are used/requested... with a GUI preferably06:55
AbortDthank you all06:55
AbortDi truely love you al06:55
kkathmanAbortD:  another terminal/konsole command for monitoring is    top     it continually refreshes06:55
AbortDi asked in two ubuntu chans06:55
AbortDand they told me ps aux06:56
AbortDps aux06:56
AbortDits like morn ps aux is not a hotkey06:56
BonBonTheJonhades: do lspci and look for aatheros06:56
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stokedfishCaptain_Redbeard: I know there is one on kde-apps.org...browse that site06:56
zorglu_kkathman: ok06:56
BonBonTheJonhades: atheros*06:56
Captain_Redbeardstokedfish: thanks06:56
cliebowanyone else see xchat broken in edgy?06:56
hadesBonBonTheJon: w8 ill turn it on ... what abut sharing the i-net by wi-fi ? is it a hard thing ?06:57
hadesBonBonTheJon: any gui tool ?06:57
kkathmancliebow:   are you running kubuntu ?06:57
BonBonTheJonhades: gui for what06:57
hadesBonBonTheJon: a tool for sharing the net by wi-fi ?06:57
cliebowwell new install of edgy --upgrade from breezy06:57
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kkathmancliebow:  try konversation instead  (xchat is primarily a gnome app)06:57
cliebowok..that is what i am on06:58
BonBonTheJonhades: i know it is possible to share internet access by wifi, but I am not sure how off the top of my head06:58
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kkathmancliebow:  if yer on ubuntu gnome - you might want to get help in #ubuntu then06:58
BonBonTheJonhades: i usually just use a wireless router, they are rather cheap06:58
cliebowim running primarily kdm with icewm06:58
cliebowand ltsp06:58
kkathmantry konversation then06:58
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hadesBonBonTheJon: there is nothing like atheros06:58
zorglu_cliebow: what is 'ltsp' ?06:59
cliebowseems fine..just used to the other06:59
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cliebowlinux terminal services06:59
hadesBonBonTheJon: funny it shows RaLink: unknown device06:59
cliebowi am one of the dev guys06:59
cliebowi run 100 terminals off one install06:59
hadesBonBonTheJon: ill take the card away and ill check if anythink changed06:59
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hadesBonBonTheJon: ok PCMCIA is working07:00
cliebowmof fact went to ubuntu bel;ow zero last Nov07:00
BonBonTheJonhades: do 'lspci | grep Ethernet'07:00
cliebowand going to SF for ltsp by the bay07:00
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hadesBroadcom Ceoporation NetXtreme BCM901 100Base-TX07:01
hadesBonBonTheJon: but this is the normal card not the wifi one07:01
hadesfor the wiifi it shows07:01
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hadesBonBonTheJon: Network controller: RaLink: unknown device 030207:02
orient2000I have some error coming out of update manager. Anybody can help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27236/07:02
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orient2000What is a Meta files?07:03
BonBonTheJonhades: isnt this RaLink supposed to be the D-Link DWL-G630?07:03
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hadesBonBonTheJon: Yes07:04
hadesBonBonTheJon: i mean07:05
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hadesBonBonTheJon: this RaLink: unknown device should be the DWL-G63007:06
BonBonTheJonhades: can you postbin 'lspci'07:06
BonBonTheJon!pastebin07:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:06
zorglu_cliebow: i looked at the ltsp.org web site. just a feedback from an user. would be cool to have the doc in html available from the site. i failed to find it on the 'new site' but found an old version on the 'old site'07:07
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bsnideru there Riddell?07:08
cliebowzorglu: it is a mess..most of the new is on wiki.ltsp.org07:08
cliebowand that is getting groty07:08
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hadesBonBonTheJon: no such command pastebin07:08
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zorglu_cliebow: i was trying to understand what is ltsp. can it be summarized as a "netboot + X forwarding" all wrapped to make it easy to use/configure ?07:09
BonBonTheJonhades: you need internet access, then copy and paste the stuff from 'lspci' into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:09
BonBonTheJon!pastebin07:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:09
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hadesBonBonTheJon: i cant get the net acces in the laptop without the wifi07:11
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cliebowyes..thin client using pxe or etherboot to d/l a kernel..nfs mount a file sytem from server and do a switchroot..then an xsession with xdmcp login (classic ltsp)07:11
cliebowedubuntu hs its own ltsp07:11
hadesBonBonTheJon: it shows Network controller: RaLink: unknown device 030207:11
cliebowthe mdz and ogra have developed07:11
hadesBonBonTheJon: iwconfig shows the interface ra0 and card propably RT6107:12
hadesBonBonTheJon: do i need any drivers ?07:12
zorglu_cliebow: yep i clearly see the insterest for 'organization with little money' like school07:12
hadesBonBonTheJon: what is ndiswrapper ? is it the driver emulator?07:12
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BonBonTheJonhades: i found something, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13298007:12
BonBonTheJon!ndiswrapper > hades07:13
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orient2000Anybody know what are Meta files? are they fonts maybe?07:14
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zorglu_orient2000: it depends on the context of where you saw that07:14
orient2000I have some error coming out of update manager. Anybody can help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27236/07:15
zorglu_orient2000: 'meta files' may be 'auxilary file' or 'external file'07:15
Captain_RedbeardBah... adept wont start because another process aparently is in use... aptitude works though... so where is the lock or pid file for adept?07:16
zorglu_orient2000: i looked at the link but apparently either the website or konqueror is bugged at the output is trunkated07:16
Jucato"sudo dpkg --configure -a"07:16
JucatoCaptain_Redbeard: ^^^^07:16
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Captain_RedbeardJucato: hah, thanks :D07:17
zorglu_orient2000: hmm the output is truncated on firefox too, so apparently the issue is in the website07:17
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zorglu_orient2000: i dont see any error on the 'seeable' part of it07:17
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zorglu_orient2000: ok try 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'07:19
BonBonTheJonhades: any progress07:19
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orient2000One depository was duplicated by easyubuntu. I fixed it. I will do sudo now07:31
bogoany one here who could help me out with nvidia geforce 7900gt 2 crt monitorz output?07:31
bogoi am using ubuntu...07:32
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zorglu_!nvidia07:32
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:32
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zorglu_i dunno if it helps, it is the only thing i know about this :)07:32
bogoi have instaled the drivers07:32
zorglu_bogo: what is the problem to meet then ?07:32
bogowell i have only one monitor working07:33
bogoi am noob sorry have many problems07:33
bogo...07:33
zorglu_oh i misparsed the '2 crt' :)07:33
zorglu_hmm07:33
bogoyes i have 207:33
zorglu_!xinerama07:33
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo07:33
bogobut works only one07:33
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zorglu_this is the usual stuff for multi monitor07:34
bogocan we talk in private?07:34
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chris_kubplease, can someone help me. I installed ATI drivers yesterday and everything worked fine. But today i started the notebook and KDE doesnt start anymore.07:35
nofrakerror message?07:35
zorglu_bogo: hmmm i dont see the need for it. why do you want that07:35
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orient2000I did sudo dpkg --configure -a and same error remains. It seams like there are some files missing on a server. I have the same problem with a key. Publick key not available.07:35
chris_kubnothing07:35
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bogohere are ppl joining and parting...07:35
bogoand i have few questions.-..07:35
bogohard to track07:35
bogo..07:35
nofrakchris: just a black screen, or login, or what?07:35
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zorglu_bogo: oh you have trouble with the 'join/part' message ? konversation allow you to ignore them07:36
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chris_kubnofrak: just a screen with the kubunut logo07:36
chris_kubwith black background07:36
zorglu_bogo: konversation -> configure -> behaviour -> chat window -> hide join/part message07:37
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nofrakchris: so are you on a different box or using gnome or what?07:38
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bogooke07:38
bogomuch better07:38
zorglu_orient2000: from here, i would say the repository has trouble07:38
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chris_kubim now using windows07:38
zorglu_bogo: i use it too :)07:38
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bogo:)07:38
nofrakdo you have another desktop installed?07:38
B-Minusanyone using kubuntu with a intel 950 GMA card ??07:38
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chris_kubnofrak: no07:38
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nofrakchris: have you tried logging into a failsafe terminal?07:39
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chris_kubnofrak: you mean safe mode? yes07:39
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chris_kuband it works07:39
bogoection "Device"07:40
bogo        Identifier      "NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT"07:40
bogo        Driver          "nvidia"07:40
bogo        BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"07:40
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simseHi anyone who has experience with installing a Intel GMA 950 driver?07:40
bogoehh i changed this few minutes ago when i tried to make it work07:40
bogolol07:40
nofrakchris: my guess is your problem is with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file07:40
bogohow can i use backup07:40
bogo?07:40
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chris_kubnofrak: what can i do?07:41
bogoi made backup first07:41
wimpiesDoes anybody know of a good GUI for the automounter ?07:41
nofrakchris: use the terminal and edit it using vi, then scroll down to where it says "device" and make sure the driver is correct07:41
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nofrakchris: if you can read your linux partition from windows, you could do it that way, too07:42
chris_kubnofrak: thanks, im going to try. If the driver isnt correct, what do i have to do?07:42
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simseAnyone who can help me with a i810-driver... Thx07:43
chris_kubi cant see the linux partition form windows, how could i ?07:43
nofrakchris: it'll say Driver "Something"  .  change "Something" to "whatever driver you installed"07:43
zorglu_!anyone >simse07:43
zorglu_simse: just in case you wonder why you dont get much help :)07:43
nofrakchris: there are a few utilities for it07:43
nofrakchris:reading ext3 from win, I mean07:44
chris_kubok, ill try it, thanks, i will tell you if it works, thanks07:44
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simse!Anyone who can help me with a i810-driver... Thx07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Anyone who can help me with a i810-driver... Thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:46
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trappistsimse: you might have better luck asking a specific question07:46
paphey   how do I install stuff and what nots07:47
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bogo!nvidia07:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:47
simseoki07:47
simseIll try then07:47
bogowhat was that page for twin....07:47
zorglu_bogo: !xinerama07:48
bogo!xinerama07:48
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo07:48
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TheGateKeeperpap: using either apt-get, aptitude, adept or synaptic the choice is yours07:48
simseI have a widescreen computer and want the resolution to be 1280x768, but right now it is 1024x768... I dont know how to change it...07:48
zorglu_simse: i think there are a tool for that...07:49
simseweee07:49
simsetell me07:50
zorglu_!info 915resolution07:50
ubotu915resolution: resolution modify tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386)07:50
bogo!info 915resolution07:50
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zorglu_simse: it is the tool i was thinking about. not sure it will do it for you... but you may check07:51
zorglu_!resolution07:51
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:51
zorglu_simse: the above link may be of interest as well07:52
simseI dont want to be annoing but Im totally newb to linux. just convertet from ws.07:52
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simseOki Ill take a look at it. thx07:52
zorglu_simse: no problem. read the link, you will get basic info. if you have question, ask them here07:53
bogoSection "Device"07:54
bogo         Identifier  "Videocard0"07:54
nofrakso anybody want to guess why the KLaptop applet refuses to load in Kicker at login?07:54
bogo         Driver      "nvidia"07:54
bogo         VendorName  "Videocard vendor"07:54
bogo         BoardName   "NVIDIA GeForce FX5900XT"07:54
bogo         Option      "TwinView"                 "true"07:54
bogo         Option      "RenderAccel"              "true"07:54
bogo         Option      "UseEdidFreqs"             "true"07:54
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bogo         Option      "MetaModes"                "1600x1200,1600x1200;1280x1024,1280x1024;1024x768,NULL;800x600,800x600;640x480,640x480"07:54
bogo         Option      "SecondMonitorHorizSync"   "30-110"07:54
bogo         Option      "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "50-160"07:54
bogo EndSection07:54
bogowhat should be here for me ?07:54
bogoi use geforce 7900 gt07:54
bogo?07:54
zorglu_nofrak: i dunno about the guess game, but i noticed the same problem on my box07:54
simsezorglu: thank you07:54
Jucatobogo: please don't flood07:54
Jucato!pastebin07:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:54
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bogowhy is scream oppening all http07:55
bogohow can i change this?07:55
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stokedfishNow listening: Monsieur's departure by Qntal on Silver Swan07:57
stokedfishhmm, works07:57
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simsezorglu_:08:00
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zorglu_simse: i agree :)08:01
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simseI have installed a package called 855resolution, but when i try to enter it doesnt work08:01
simsedo I have to reboot to make the package work?08:01
zorglu_simse: well i dont use it... so i cant really help you08:02
pap!firefox08:02
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins08:02
zorglu_one day i should try tho, as i have a laptop with a 'widescreen' too08:02
simseall right08:02
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SDYBomBonTheJon: Hey, I'm back. My internet still isn't working...08:08
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SDYBomBonTheJon: I've done everything you sayd and did evrything on that site, nothing..08:09
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SDYIs there anybody around who knows a thing or two about networking in kubuntu???08:10
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fdovingSDY: yes, hang on, i'll just have to do a reboot.08:11
SDYfdoving: ok08:11
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raghola *08:11
ragplease!08:12
SDYrag: wat's up?08:12
ragany way for install on several machines?08:12
raginstall same software on all machines08:13
ragscript?08:13
SDYrag: you mean through a network?08:13
ragyeah08:13
ragnow, i doing ssh root@ip aptitude install x08:14
ragbut i see than not is the solution08:14
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SDYrag: check this one: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Network-Install-HOWTO.html08:14
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ragok! thanks08:14
zorglu_!es08:14
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:14
zorglu_rag: just in case you feel more confortable in spanish08:15
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ragthx!08:15
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luigioooooo08:15
luigiitaliani???08:16
zorglu_!it08:16
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:16
B-Minusbe08:16
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:16
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B-Minus:s08:16
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zorglu_B-Minus: french will do ?08:16
B-Minusno08:16
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zorglu_what is the code name for dutch langage ?08:17
zorglu_!du08:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about du - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:17
B-Minus!nl08:17
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl08:17
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zorglu_ok :)08:17
ragSDY; help08:17
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SDYrag: yes?08:18
ragSDY: I need find a solution for install for example any software (kstars ;-) example) on all machines of my network08:19
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SDYrag: so just for programs, not full os?08:20
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ragSDY: just programs08:21
ragnot os08:21
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dhqcan someone help me Nagios 2.5 installation08:21
SDYrag: how big is your network than?08:21
raga little08:21
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rag8-10 computers each08:21
SDYrag: ok... mm, never tried this before myself...08:22
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ragthis work: ssh root@IP aptitude install X08:22
zorglu_there is a ssh version which handle mutiple ssh at a time08:22
ragSDY: but not is solution08:23
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ragzorglu: which?08:23
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zorglu_!info clusterssh08:23
ubotuclusterssh: administer multiple ssh or rsh shells simultaneously. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.18.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 160 kB08:24
ragzorglu: ah ok i see it, but your recomendation for me?08:24
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zorglu_well you can try it and see if it helps ?08:24
ragzorglu: i have install it , yesterday, but is graphical tool?08:25
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ragzorglu: i need on command line08:25
SDYfdoving: are you back yet?\08:25
fdovingSDY: back.08:25
zorglu_rag: it is the onely one i know like that08:25
fdovingSDY: what's your problem?08:25
zorglu_personnaly i would do a bash script, rag08:26
DjDarkmanis there someone here who had compiled wine on a 64 bit kubuntu?08:26
SDYfdoving: you are good with networking right?08:26
ragzorglu: yes, thanks , i want do it08:26
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fdovingSDY: depends on your problem.08:27
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ragzorglu: but... how to insert root passwd? do yo know? i doing sometime but now i forget... ;-(08:27
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zorglu_rag: 'sudo passwd' and then type the root passwd08:27
verwilsthi08:27
ragzorglu:  but... how to insert root passwd? do yo08:27
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verwilstanybody using an nvidia card with edgy?08:27
ragzorglu: sorry08:27
zorglu_rag: sorry too :) i dont understand what you mean :)08:27
ragzorglu: ssh root@192.168.0.124 aptitude install mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es08:27
ragzorglu: perdon08:28
zorglu_rag: oh ok, look at the ssh configuration to get RSA/DSA authentication08:28
ragzorglu: this command prompt me for a passwd root08:28
SDYfdoving: well, since tomorrow my internetconnection isn't working (no traffic) in linux. In winxp it still works, same device08:28
zorglu_rag: it is safer and especially doesnt ask for a password :)08:28
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SDYfdoving: I can ping to localhost, but that's it08:28
ragzorglu: how to?08:29
fdovingSDY: ok. are the network devices up? do you get a ip address on the device?08:29
zorglu_rag: 1. google for it, 2. follow the instruction found :)08:29
ragzorglu: always from same machine no?08:29
zorglu_or ask more here :)08:29
ragzorglu: true?08:29
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ragzorglu: ok thx08:30
zorglu_ok i will even google for you :)08:30
SDYfdoving: yes, I did some tests like lspci -> ok, ifconfig says 0 on RX packets and TX packets08:30
ragzorglu: o yeah goog my friend08:30
fdovingSDY: but does 'ifconfig' list the device? does it have an ip?08:30
ragzorglu: our tonight friend...08:30
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zorglu_http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/sshrsakey.html <- this one seems good rag08:30
SDYfdoving: it does lidt the device and it does have an ip08:31
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SDYfdoving: static ip bytheway08:31
ragzorglu: thx08:31
zorglu_SDY: can you ping the other boxed on the same LAN, durectly using their IP08:32
zorglu_or the gateway08:33
fdovingSDY: are the static settings the same in linux as in windows?08:33
ragzorglu: time to work08:33
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ragzorglu: thanks!08:33
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SDYfdoving: the same08:34
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SDYzorglu: no, i can't ping the gateway08:34
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fdovingSDY: what did you change? i assume this worked before?08:35
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dhq> why do i get this error  "./install.sh: 130: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"08:36
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SDYfdoving: It did, but it just didn't work anymore when i booted this morning...08:36
zorglu_SDY: from ifconfig output "RX packets:5036339 errors:2 dropped:19 overruns:2 frame:0" <- do you noticed any unusual number of error/dropped/etc...08:36
fdovingdhq: the install.sh script uses bash-only code, and the shebang (first line) says #!/bin/sh and expects /bin/sh to be bash, but it's not. it's dash. change to #!/bin/bash08:36
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SDYzorglu: RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:008:37
zorglu_SDY: TX is similar i guess08:38
fdovingSDY: is the route set correctly?08:38
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zorglu_SDY: can you cut/paste from this box ? like what is the output of 'ip route'08:38
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Arlingtonhi! my amarok won't start when i press the icon in start menu but it starts when i use konsole mode and run it using sudo "amarok"08:39
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Arlingtonanyone that has a clue what's going on?08:39
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SDYfdoving: how do i know?08:40
SDYzorglu: no, ij'm now in winxp...08:40
fdovingSDY: do as zorglu_ says. 'ip route'08:40
jdunnhelp08:40
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fdoving!help08:40
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:40
fdoving:)08:40
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fdoving!ask08:40
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:40
fdovingjdunn: ^^08:40
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gemidjyare Edgy artoworks for OO.org and GIMP ready somewhere?08:40
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SDYzorglu: what can i see from ip route?08:42
fdovingSDY: you can see the routing table.08:42
zorglu_SDY: hmm this make the help harder...08:42
fdovingSDY: the last line is the essential one. 'default via .....'08:42
SDYzorglu08:42
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zorglu_SDY: next time you run linux, put the output of "ip addr; ip -s link; ip route" all those command in a file readable from window08:43
SDYzorglu: anything else?08:43
zorglu_SDY: and put the output of "sudo iptables -L" in a file too08:43
zorglu_that's the only one i see...08:43
zorglu_thinking...08:43
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zorglu_SDY: ok copy the /var/log/messages and /var/log/dmesg too08:44
fdovingand maybe /etc/network/interfaces too08:44
zorglu_fdoving: you see other ?08:44
davidam I being a total n00b, or has the Alias function dissapeared from Kopete?08:44
zorglu_good idea :)08:44
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zorglu_SDY: thats the only one i see...08:45
david(v0.12.3)08:45
fdovingzorglu_: i can't think of anything more either..08:45
fdovingbrb. eat.08:45
DaSkreechAlias?08:45
SDYzorglu & fdoving:  maybe /etc/reso08:46
zorglu_ /etc/reso ?08:46
zorglu_i dunno this one :)08:46
SDYzorglu & fdoving:  maybe /etc/resolf.conf  ?08:46
zorglu_oh yeah may be good too08:46
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zorglu_SDY: in short you try to gather as many info as you can which may be of use08:47
Arlingtonhi! my amarok won't start when i press the icon in start menu but it starts when i use konsole mode and run it using sudo "amarok"08:47
zorglu_SDY: it will help the 'cant cut/paste or execute cmd' issue08:47
SDYzorglu & fdoving:  ok, I'll be back in a while!08:47
zorglu_SDY: you said it was working and now it no more work, correct ?08:47
SDYzorglu: correct08:48
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zorglu_SDY: finding out what change would be good :)08:48
SDYzorglu: i will08:48
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DaSkreechArlington: What about just amarok>08:48
DaSkreechno sudo?08:48
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dimmanhi there how r u???08:49
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ArlingtonDaSkreech: dosn't start08:50
DaSkreechDoes it throw an error?08:51
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Arlingtoni'll paste bin it08:52
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longmatysHi, i have problem with kmix. It just never save the state of sliders. Do you know what with it?08:52
Arlingtonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27244/08:52
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zorglu_q. am i the only one to see truncated output from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?08:53
gemidjyare Dapper artoworks for OO.org and GIMP avl somewhere?08:53
zorglu_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16808:53
zorglu_!baddevice08:54
ubotubaddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.008:54
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Arlingtonbut it worked earlier today and i havn't changed anything.08:54
zorglu_Arlington: it will help the baddevice stuff. not directly related to your problem thor08:54
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zorglu_well something changed :)08:54
Arlingtonzorglu_: i know you showed me taht earlier08:54
m_tadeuwhy my CTL+ESC does not show the process window?08:55
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zorglu_because you forgot the r between ct and l :)08:55
dimmanhi i'm new user with kubuntu08:55
dimmanmay i ask a quest?08:55
zorglu_Arlington: i dont see any obvious error in your output08:56
zorglu_!ask08:56
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:56
dimmanok08:56
dimman:)08:56
Arlingtonokay well amarok dosn't start .-(08:56
m_tadeuhehe08:56
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shankygood night08:56
longmatysDo anyone know about the kmix  problem?08:56
dimmani have a big database in ntfs what i can do to make some changes with kubu?08:57
zorglu_dimman: your question is very unclear :)08:57
zorglu_!ntfs08:57
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse08:57
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m_tadeulongmatys: the one about the volume and the keyboard?08:57
dimmanok make again08:57
zorglu_dimman: what is this database08:58
zorglu_!gr08:58
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes08:58
dimmani want to del or add some pic in ntfs partision08:58
zorglu_dimman: just in case you feel more confortable with 'other alphabets' :)08:58
dimmanthks!!!08:59
m_tadeubut there should be a shortcut for the process window, right?08:59
dimman:)08:59
shankywhich is the configuration tool for scanners in kubuntu?08:59
zorglu_dimman: oh ok, you want to access ntfs08:59
longmatysm_tadey: I dont know about keyboard problem. but my kmix doesnt save its state on close. If I start it again all my changes are forgotten08:59
longmatysIt is very easily reproducible08:59
zorglu_http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ <- dimman it may be of help08:59
dimmani have the access but not the right to change!!!08:59
dimmanthanks friend!!!08:59
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longmatysI tried few scripts for saving and restoring mixers, but none works09:00
m_tadeulongmatys: try to delete the config files09:00
longmatys?09:00
zorglu_http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-3g <- this is supposed to provide read and write access dimman09:00
longmatysWhich one? rm- a /etc/* :)09:00
dimmanthanks friend!!!09:00
dimman:)09:00
dimman:)09:00
longmatysIt doesnt work for 2 users on the same machine09:01
m_tadeulongmatys: /home/you/.kde/share/config09:01
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longmatysok, i09:01
longmatysll try it09:01
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fdovinglogankoester: don't delete anything in /etc/ unless you know what it is.09:02
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megamasterxHello everyone09:02
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m_tadeudoes anyone know where to config the shortcut do the process window?09:02
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MegaMasterXI need a free VB.NET IDE for kubuntu.....all the ones I found are shareware...09:03
asmo674hurthow to set up original usplash?09:03
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longmatysm_tadeu: i looked at .kde/share/apps and there are other configs too. I don't want loose my konsole setting and others. Can you more specify which configs to delete?09:04
zorglu_m_tadeu: kmenu -> system config -> region && access -> keyboard hortcut  -> short task manager09:04
zorglu_m_tadeu: up to you to fix the typo :)09:05
m_tadeulongmatys: delete only the ones trlated to kmix :)09:05
BonBonTheJonMegaMasterX: you can't program in vb .NET in linux09:05
m_tadeuzorglu_: thanx a lot :)09:05
MegaMasterXI can't?09:05
dimmanQ: how can i add programme in kubu?09:05
fdovingasmo674hurt: in konsole 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so'09:05
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longmatysThere are my configs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27245/ I don09:06
BonBonTheJonMegaMasterX: you can program in C# using Mono, but .NET needs a run time which Microsoft hasn't made available except in Windows09:06
zorglu_!apt09:06
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)09:06
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longmatys't see any related to kmix...:(09:06
asmo674hurtfdoving, thnx!09:06
zorglu_dimman: the above link is for you09:06
MegaMasterX>.< I don't want to learn C...09:06
dimmanthks!!!!!!09:06
dimman:)))09:06
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longmatysA can't understand how to use adept. All I need is console aptitude - excelent search facility09:07
maryenfdoving: where is my Edgy RC1 >:(09:07
BonBonTheJonMegaMasterX: C# is similar to vb09:07
fdovingmaryen: it's here tomorrow.09:07
BonBonTheJon!mono09:07
ubotumono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB09:07
maryenit was delayed?09:07
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MegaMasterXI got mono, but I don't know how to run it09:07
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gemidjyBonBonTheJon: no sh*t, c# is far away from vb09:08
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longmatysIt seems I will build my own kmix and trace down, where is an error. I even tried kmixctrl for saving state, but it never worked too09:10
Hexidigitalanyone using the app kxdocker that can tell me where the .xml config file should be located?09:10
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BonBonTheJonMegaMasterX: try http://www.mono-project.com/GtkSharpBeginnersGuide for a tutorial09:11
MegaMasterXok09:11
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dimmanQ: the console says that i'm not a root-user09:11
dimmanit needs a pss!09:11
MegaMasterXuse sudo09:11
m_tadeulongmatys: there are several config files for kmix...did you tryed to deletem them all?09:11
MegaMasterXdimman: Example: sudo chmod +x name_of_file09:12
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MegaMasterXjust to name one09:12
dimmanthe sudo was for me???09:12
MegaMasterXyea09:12
MegaMasterXUse it before your commands09:12
dimmanand then?09:12
MegaMasterX>.> Continue with what you were doing09:12
longmatysm_tadeu: I didn't find even one of them09:12
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MegaMasterXThing about sudo is that you have to enter the root password only once.09:12
dimmani want to install a prog09:12
ragzorglu: are there?09:12
dimmantype: sudo09:12
MegaMasterXyea09:12
MegaMasterXjust sudo09:13
dimmanapt- get install09:13
MegaMasterXyea09:13
dimman?09:13
MegaMasterXsudo apt-get install09:13
ragzorglu_: are there?09:13
dimmanthanks!!!!09:13
dimman:)09:13
MegaMasterXnp09:13
dimman:)09:13
ragzorglu_: look this, Allow secure, authenticated remote access, file transfer, and command execution without having to remember passwords for each individual host you connect to09:13
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m_tadeulongmatys: weird...I have 3 on config dir09:13
ragzorglu_: but it ask me for a passphrase09:13
BonBonTheJonMegaMasterX: heres another article for you http://visualbasic.about.com/b/a/102482.htm09:13
longmatysI found them, they are in .kde/share/config09:14
zorglu_rag: just press enter :)09:14
dimmanMEGA that is the message:Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?09:14
MegaMasterX:O09:14
MegaMasterXYou're still trying the apt-install, correct?09:14
MegaMasterXDid it prompt you for your root password?09:15
ragzorglu_: if i press enter... without type passphrase, prompt me for normal passwd root09:15
longmatysI delete them, but it didn't work09:15
ragzorglu_: please help me, now ten minutes i am a teacher for a class09:15
zorglu_rag: then you did something wrong somewhere :) i do it everyday without ssh asking me anything09:16
ragzorglu_: gnu/linux of course... i fight for it, always!09:16
m_tadeulongmatys: did you restart kmix?09:16
longmatysrag: I think, that better is to change your sudoers file to allow you use all commands without prompting for password09:16
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m_tadeulongmatys: after deleting?09:16
BonBonTheJondimman: you need to do 'sudo apt-get install program' and insert program name09:16
dimmani type "sudo enter then apt-get install captive-static-1.1.7-0.rpm enter09:16
dimmanis that correct?09:16
MegaMasterXno09:16
ragzorglu_: ok, no passphrase , no passwd, on your systems?09:16
MegaMasterXtype this together:09:16
MegaMasterXsudo apt-get install AppName09:16
longmatysm_tadeu: sure. Stop it, delete them. Run it, change it, close, run - changes are gone... :(09:16
BonBonTheJondimman: you need a .deb file09:16
MegaMasterXDepends.09:17
zorglu_rag: exactly, and i followed the insttruction from the page i gave you09:17
dimmanok wait to do!09:17
ragzorglu_; sudoers file not possible, it is for a public access center ;-)09:17
MegaMasterXDimman: sudo apt-get install AppName09:17
BonBonTheJonMegaMasterX: he's trying to apt-get an .rpm file09:17
ragzorglu_; ok, your system not ask you for a passfhrase?09:17
dimmanit needs a password!09:17
MegaMasterXType the root password!09:18
MegaMasterX:)09:18
ragzorglu_: enter directly?09:18
BonBonTheJondimman: your password09:18
dimmannowhere in istallation asks me for root pass!09:18
MegaMasterXType it in.09:18
ragzorglu_: ok, read this Allow secure, authenticated remote access, file transfer, and command execution without having to remember passwords for each individual host you connect to09:18
BonBonTheJondimman: with 'sudo' you type in your password09:19
ragzorglu_: i think that this solution is for one passwd many hosts09:19
TheGateKeeperdimman: if you are trying to install a rpm then you need to use alien, & be warned even after you have installed it it may well not work09:19
ragzorglu_: for many hosts, one passfhrase for many hosts, without remember root passwd of each machine09:20
dimmankubu what type of progr. needs to work?09:20
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ragzorglu_: please confirm me09:22
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ragzorglu_: my linux class, other moment i enter here, ok? thanks zorglu!!! a lot09:22
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fjsanchezHi09:24
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fjsanchezWhere can I set up the parameters of my samba network throught interface?09:24
fjsanchezI can modify it in smb.conf09:25
fjsanchezBut I'd like to know where are these parameters set alreaady09:25
BonBonTheJonfjsanchez: if you edited smb.conf then do 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' to restart samba09:26
fjsanchezNo, it's not the problem09:26
fjsanchezI'd like to know where KDE set the default parameters09:26
fjsanchezIn my smb.conf there are no workgroup or description tags09:27
gemidjyare Dapper artoworks for OO.org and GIMP avl somewhere?09:27
fjsanchezBut them appear09:27
gemidjyartworks*09:27
BonBonTheJonfjsanchez: i dont understand, can you rephrase the question09:29
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fjsanchezOk, sorry for my english09:29
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fjsanchezI'd like to know if KDE has any dialog where I can change my workgroup or description shown in samba09:30
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fdovingfjsanchez: kmenu -> run command -> type 'kcmshell kcmsambaconf' and press enter.09:32
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BonBonTheJonfjsanchez: there you go, I was looking it up09:34
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fjsanchezThis is what I was looking for09:34
fjsanchezThankyou very much09:34
fdovingyou're welcome :)09:34
alejandroanybody knows how to solve the konq_iconview problem of kde 3.5.5 ??09:34
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RakzorDoes anyone know why Kubuntu won't let me mount a hard drive?09:40
SDYfdofing: hey, I'm back09:40
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dhqsudo pear upgrade     PEAR-1.3.5 Did not download dependencies: pear/XML_RPC, use --alldeps or --onlyreqdeps to download automatically pear/PEAR requires package "pear/XML_RPC" (version >= 1.0.4) No valid packages found upgrade failed09:41
icheyneRakzor, because you haven't got your fstab fixed up?09:41
RakzorUh, what's that?09:41
icheyneit's a file that controls your mounts09:41
icheyneit's not *too* difficult to configure09:42
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RakzorAh, how would I set it up?09:42
icheynebut it's a bore09:42
icheynewish Linux would set it up automatically09:42
icheyne:(09:42
Sannehi09:42
Rakzor=(09:42
icheynethere are loads of tutorials on the web09:42
icheyneseriously09:42
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RakzorAh kk09:42
icheyneit's a common problem09:42
icheyneit's not rocket science at all09:42
Rakzorw00t, at least I know I didn't do anything wrong.09:42
icheynejust got to configure a few switches09:42
icheyne/etc/fstab09:42
RakzorThanks, by the way.09:44
SDYfblinding: Are you there?09:45
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SlimGdoes the command "$ dpkg --print-architecture" on a 64bit cpu (regardless of amd/intel) return "amd64" ?09:45
trappistyes09:46
trappistSlimG: ^09:46
trappisterr, well, it does on amd6409:46
SlimGtrappist: Thanx :)09:46
trappistI don't have an intel box handy :)09:46
SDY!nl09:46
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl09:46
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BonBonTheJontrappist: intel returns i38609:49
fdovingBonBonTheJon: not EMT64s09:50
BonBonTheJonfdoving: what?09:51
fdovingwhen running on a 64bit distro, that is.09:51
fdovingBonBonTheJon: when running intel 64bits on a 64bit kubuntu it won't return i386.09:51
BonBonTheJonfdoving: oh, disregard, I dont have 64-bit09:51
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SDYfdoving: i've checked evrything you sayd, what do you need to know to give me some answers ;)09:52
fdovingSDY: i need you to put it all online, as zorgul said.09:53
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fdovingSDY: paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:53
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dhqhow to install to pear1.4.1109:54
|lostbyte|!perl09:54
ubotuperl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.8.7-10ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3219 kB, installed size 11172 kB09:54
SDYfdoving: ok09:54
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SDYF09:55
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SDYfdoving: what do you want exactly, 'cause messages is like 245 pages09:56
dhqfdoving: how to install to pear1.4.1109:56
fdovingdhq: pear ?09:56
fdovingSDY: first the output of the 3 ip commands.09:57
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dhqfdoving: yes09:57
fdovingdhq: what is pear?09:57
dhq!pear09:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:57
fdovingdhq: php pear?09:57
logankoesterIs there anything like a recursive ls?09:58
dhqfdoving: sudo pear upgrade     PEAR-1.3.5 Did not download dependencies: pear/XML_RPC, use --alldeps or --onlyreqdeps to download automatically pear/PEAR requires package "pear/XML_RPC" (version >= 1.0.4) No valid packages found upgrade failed09:58
fdovinglogankoester: yes, add -R09:58
|lostbyte|php4-pear - PHP Extension and Application Repository (transitional package)09:58
LjLlogankoester: man find09:58
logankoesterfdoving: thanks09:58
DaSkreechCan I purge the recovered documents from Open office?09:58
dhq|lostbyte|: its not php pear09:59
dhqits php base system something like that09:59
fdovingdhq: what pear is this? can you give a homepage or something?09:59
dhqfdoving: http://pear.php.net/package/PEAR/docs/1.4.11/li_PEAR.html09:59
dhqfdoving: http://pear.php.net/package/PEAR10:00
|lostbyte|its definitly php pear.10:00
fdovingdhq: so it's php-pear then.10:00
dhqok may be10:00
fdovingdhq: try package php4-pear or php-pear (php 5.x)10:01
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dhqhow do i install it now10:01
dhqyes10:01
|lostbyte|there you go ^^10:01
fdovinguse adept, or apt-get on the commandline.10:01
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chris_kubhi, i got problems with ati x1400. I installed the drivers but when i use fglrxinfo it only put Mesa... and i cant get a higher resolution than 640x . Thanks10:05
MuJyou're welcome10:05
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DaSkreechCan I purge the recovered documents from Open office?10:06
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fdovingDaSkreech: what do you mean? remove them from the list of recoverable documents?10:07
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DaSkreechAnytime openoffice starts up there are list of "recoverable files" all of which I either don't care about or I recovered a long time ago10:07
DaSkreechcan I purge those?10:07
chris_kubhi, i got problems with ati x1400. I installed the drivers but when i use fglrxinfo it only put Mesa... and i cant get a higher resolution than 640x . Please, any idea?10:07
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DaSkreechfdoving: Have any idea what I'm talking about?10:09
fdovingDaSkreech: understand what you want. but i don't have a clue on openoffice10:09
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DaSkreechDon't make me join #ubuntu :-P10:10
icheynehas anyone found a good podcatcher?10:10
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icheyneipodder keeps crashing10:10
fdovingDaSkreech: i'm searching :)10:10
icheynegpodder crashes too10:10
icheynethe ipodder replacement - can't remember name10:11
icheynealso crashes10:11
icheyne:(10:11
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SDYfdoving: It's online, here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27258/10:11
DaSkreechicheyne: podcatcher?10:11
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icheynepodcast downloader10:12
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DaSkreechicheyne: And you don't like amarok?10:13
icheyneno10:13
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icheyneDaSkreech, I want a stand-alone one10:13
DaSkreechicheyne: doesn't akregator do that as well?10:13
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icheyneoh yes?10:14
icheynehmm10:14
icheyneDaSkreech, thanks I'll try that10:14
icheyneDaSkreech, should have thought of that originally. It's sort of obvious. I'll give it a go.10:14
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DaSkreechicheyne: If it doesn't follow the obvious don't blame me! :)10:16
icheyneDaSkreech, heh K.I.S.S10:16
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fdovingDaSkreech: no clue, tried #openoffice.org if it exists?10:19
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fdovingSDY: can you run 'ping 192.168.1.1' from the commandline?10:19
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SDYfdoving: yes but it fails10:20
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fdovingSDY: what nic is this?10:20
SDYfdoving: explain nic?10:21
fdovingSDY: network interface card10:22
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SDYfdoving: onboard lan10:24
fdovingSDY: do you have the output of 'lspci -v' in that file?10:24
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fdovingSDY: i see that you get RX, but the TX are 100% dropped.10:25
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SDYfdoving: this is all i have exept for the messages file and dmesg10:26
fdovingSDY: can you upload the dmesg file somewhere?10:26
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SDYfdoving: I think I can10:28
SDYfdoving: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27260/10:29
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barjoh10whats up10:30
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barjoh10hrello10:31
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DaSkreechhi10:31
barjoh10who r u10:31
DaSkreechI r me10:31
barjoh10hello10:31
DaSkreechHello10:32
larson9999why do the dialogs that have 'yes to all' when asking if you want to overwrite, usually not have a 'no to all' button, too?10:32
barjoh10realy who r u10:32
fdovingSDY: do you have more than one kernel in the grub boot manager list of kernels?10:32
DaSkreechlarson9999: It has a cancel I think that works the same :)10:32
DaSkreechbarjoh10: try typing /whois DaSkreech10:33
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SDYfdoving: I had till this morning, I commented some out (after the problem occured)10:33
barjoh10whois DaSkreech10:33
LjLbarjoh10, we're people involved with the Linux distribution called Kubuntu. This is its support channel.10:34
DaSkreechbarjoh10: You need the /10:34
LjLbarjoh10, he meant with a slash. /whois DaSkreech10:34
fdovingSDY: ok, revert that change, and try some of them (not the recovery mode ones)10:34
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barjoh10ohhh! tell me more10:34
fdovingSDY: i suspect this might be a driver (kernel module issue).10:34
DaSkreechbarjoh10: try /help10:34
barjoh10help10:35
LjLbarjoh10, I guess you should go to http://www.ubuntu.com and http://www.kubuntu.com to find out more. anyway, (K)Ubuntu is a distribution of the Linux operating system.10:35
SDYfdoving: well, i've allready tried that and it diddn't make a difference10:35
fdovingSDY: hmm.. ok. then i really have no clue. you didn't change any network settings? - only regular updates?10:35
barjoh10isnt that too much work10:35
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barjoh10what u have me puzzled here10:36
SDYfdoving: that's right10:36
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fdovingSDY: you can check /var/log/dpkg.log to find out what packages was updated.10:37
fdovingSDY: that might be usefull.10:37
barjoh10no!10:37
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SDYfdoving: ok, thanks for the help anyway10:38
DaSkreechbarjoh10: are you in Kubuntu?10:38
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barjoh10is someone speaking to me10:38
paulohello all10:38
CVirus!edgy10:38
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule10:38
CVirus!schedule10:38
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule10:38
DaSkreechbarjoh10: Yes I am10:38
barjoh10hello paulo10:39
DaSkreechbarjoh10: are you in Kubuntu?10:39
barjoh10yes why10:39
DaSkreechclick on the words #kubuntu-offtopic10:39
pauloanyone know a good tutorial on setting up ssh "safely"?10:40
DaSkreechpaulo: Eh?10:40
DaSkreechWhat do you mean safely?10:40
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pauloSet it up to start10:40
barjoh10yes he is paulo10:40
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DaSkreechsudo apt-get install openssh-server10:40
barjoh10will u all fight10:40
barjoh10keep me out of it OK10:41
DaSkreechbarjoh10: type /join #kubuntu-offtopic10:41
CVirusbarjoh10: whats your problem ?10:41
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pauloDaSkreech: thats installed already, i'm talking about the config10:41
barjoh10problem of what10:41
DaSkreechCVirus: Lost I guess :)10:41
paulowhat i have does not seem to be running10:41
DaSkreechCVirus: Just needs to go to Offtopic10:41
CVirusbarjoh10: whats your technical problem ?10:42
DaSkreechpaulo: ok what do you want it to do?10:42
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barjoh10ha ha ha ha10:42
calliztahi @ all10:42
barjoh10helo10:42
ryanakcahmm... is are the msn messenger servers down? or is it just kopete?10:42
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pauloexample - called girlfriend when i was in work to turn on PC so i can access it, tried in Putty the ip and port 443 (port was set in the config) but i could not login10:43
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barjoh10people talk u know10:43
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CVirusbarjoh10: not on channels meant for support10:43
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pauloso there is no connection10:43
barjoh10what10:43
barjoh10i think10:43
pauloshouldn't ssh start as a service before you log in?10:43
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fdovingbarjoh10: go to #kubuntu-offtopic for random chat. this channel is reserved to support issues.10:44
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Dragonfire1test10:44
barjoh10noo10:44
DaSkreechbarjoh10: click on the blue words #kubuntu-offtopic10:44
barjoh10why10:44
DaSkreechbarjoh10: I'll explain there10:44
Dragonfire1cool just trying kubuntu10:44
paulobarhoh try the command /disco10:44
DaSkreechbarjoh10: You won't leave here but do that and I'll explain10:44
barjoh10allright DaSkreech10:44
barjoh10but why10:45
pauloanyone wanna help with ssh?10:45
barjoh10no10:45
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DaSkreechbarjoh10: type /join #kubuntu-offtopic10:45
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fdovingpaulo: what's your ssh problem?10:45
barjoh10why10:45
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DaSkreechpaulo: How do you know it's not working?10:45
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pauloshould ssh start as a service before you log in?10:45
barjoh10calm down people10:46
fdovingpaulo: yes.10:46
DaSkreechbarjoh10: type /join #kubuntu-offtopic and I'll explain more10:46
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CVirusbarjoh10: welcome to my ignore list ... idiot10:46
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pauloDaSkreech: because when my girlfriend turned on the PC i was still getting connection timeout error10:46
DaSkreechpaulo: On what?10:46
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DaSkreechDragonfire1: Welcome10:47
pauloand i did a port scan10:47
paulono open ports10:47
fdovingpaulo: do you have a public IP on your linux box, or does it connect to a router/modem to get internet?10:47
paulo(port scan from work)10:47
paulofdoving: wireless modem10:48
comtechsystemshas anyone been getting lots of Xorg freezes with edgy?10:48
gnomefreaknope10:48
Dragonfire1thanks trying I like so far have sound LOL10:48
fdovingpaulo: then you'll have to setup some portforwarding in the wireless modem/router.10:48
fdovingcomtechsystems: no, xorg is very nice to me in edgy.10:48
paulono web interface or anything it configure10:48
Dragonfire1looks easirr tehn ubuntu10:48
paulojust plug in and instant internet10:49
pauloi managed to do it before the other day but not since i changed my ssh port number10:49
DaSkreechpaulo: if you have a modem/router in between you and the internet then you are going to need to do some port forwarding10:50
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pauloDaSkreech: there is no NAT or anything like that10:50
fdovingpaulo: if you run 'ip addr' you don't get anything matching 192.168.x.x, 172.16.x.x, 10.x.x.x ?10:51
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DaSkreechpaulo: So what is the IP of the machine you installed openssh-server on?10:52
paulonope10:52
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fdovingpaulo: is it the pc you're using now?10:53
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pauloyeah10:53
fdovingpaulo: if that's the case, your ssh is working just fine, on port 22.10:53
DaSkreechDShepherd: Umm10:53
DaSkreechDShepherd: Hi?10:53
ravariahy guys... where can i find god protection por my computer??10:53
pauloon 22?10:53
DShepherdhi10:53
pauloi set it to 44310:53
paulocannot get out on 22 in work10:53
DaSkreechravaria: Unplug the keyboard and mouse and network cords10:54
icheyneDaSkreech, No podcast support in akregator :o( - I'll keep looking.....10:54
paulohaha10:54
ravariahahahha10:54
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ravariagod advice10:54
DShepherdravaria: condoms?10:54
ravariano men10:54
fdovingpaulo: then restart it. 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart'10:54
ravariamy computer...10:54
DShepherdravaria: computer condoms?10:55
ravariai mean antyvirus and stuff10:55
DaSkreechicheyne: What does it do when pointed at a podcast?10:55
gemidjyengrish h3rz10:55
paulofdoving: done10:55
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DShepherdravaria: well.. ubuntu is quite secure by default.10:56
fdovingpaulo: it's still running on port 22.10:56
icheyneDaSkreech, just the webpage of the podcast. It does not grab the enclosed mp3 or ogg10:56
paulowhy?? arrrrrrrgh!10:56
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DaSkreechicheyne: Hmm ok10:57
DShepherdravaria: but you insist on instaling antivirus and stuff.. there exists clamAv and firestarter.. though I dont think you willl need them10:57
DaSkreechicheyne: Want to ask in #kde for a more informed opinion?10:57
icheyneoh yes please10:57
icheyneI'm going to try kitty10:57
fdovingpaulo: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config change 'Port 22' to 'Port 443' and restart ssh with 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart'10:58
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DaSkreechicheyne: Who?10:59
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ravariathanks for th advice10:59
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paulook thanks11:00
pauloi edited ssh_config before :P11:00
icheyneDaSkreech, http://www.kesiev.com/kittyguide/home11:00
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pauloand whats the best way to secure it more?11:00
icheyneDaSkreech, no deb but I'll try compiling it11:00
trappistpaulo: to secure it more than what?11:01
icheyneDaSkreech, looks like liferea supports them too11:02
DaSkreechoh.. Apt-get install lifeera then :)11:02
SlimGDoes anyone have a xpm/png logo for Warow ? (warsow.xpm)11:02
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icheyneDaSkreech, I'm going to try getdeb.net before apt-get :)11:03
archangel_ any use a ipod with linux?11:03
Digital_PioneerHi. I need to enable direct rending, but I don't know how. I figure I'm in the wrong place, but I don't know where to start, as I don't even really know what handles 'direct rendering'.11:04
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Digital_PioneerAs you can probably guess, I use Kubuntu...11:04
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archangel_how do you get pics on the ipod? I put some on there directly but they dont show up on the ipod.11:04
paulotrappist: secure it more then default settings11:04
DaSkreechDigital_Pioneer: What Video card do you have?11:05
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: I don't know much about such a situation, but how do you connect to your iPod?11:05
Digital_PioneerDaSkreech: It's an Intel 845G chipset.11:05
trappistSlimG: if one of these matches, grab it and convert it: http://images.google.com/images?as_q=warsow&imgsz=icon11:05
archangel_as a device11:05
trappistpaulo: two big ones: disallow root login, and set up your keys and turn off password authentication11:05
archangel_(like accessing a hd)11:05
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Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: I can tell you that almost definitely you are putting those images in the wrong place.11:06
paulohow to disallow root?11:06
archangel_yeah I kinda figured that out11:06
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: Devices like iPods don't just store stuff like images and music, they also store an entire computer.11:06
archangel_I need to know what folder to put the pics in11:06
pauloand i can still sudo to do what i need yeah?11:06
trappistpaulo: check PermitRootLogin in your sshd_config11:06
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: Just tossing something in there won't work. The computer won't know what to do with it.11:06
trappistpaulo: yeah, it just keeps root from logging in via ssh11:06
paulocool as a mofo11:07
Tallia1Kubuntui am so frustrated..... practically there's no way of having a linux machine and being able to mantain coordination / sync between all the contacts11:07
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: Well, try Googling for iPod hacking. That's my best recommendation. You'll probably find somewhere how to hack images in without using Mac's software.11:07
archangel_there are folders for calander, music, notes, everything but pics11:07
DaSkreechDigital_Pioneer: What are you enabling DRI for?11:07
Tallia1Kubuntuon cellphones, kontact and gmail11:07
Tallia1Kubuntui am soooooo frustrated11:07
Digital_PioneerDaSkreech: I've got a game that wants it.11:07
Digital_Pioneer:] 11:07
DaSkreechDigital_Pioneer: Best place is #ubuntu-xgl11:07
Digital_PioneerDaSkreech: OK, thanks a million!11:08
DaSkreechPretty sure they will have you sorted in 20 minutes11:08
archangel_if I use iTunes, its all done by the software, but I dont know enought about amarak to use pics (IF that can be done)11:08
trappistTallia1Kubuntu: I use bitpim for my cellphone contacts, which can export to several kontact-friendly formats - dunno about gmail though11:08
Digital_PioneerDaSkreech: Sweet, thanks a ton!11:08
gemidjywhere can I find the default Dapper splashscreen's for GIMP & OO.org ?11:08
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: AmaroK is a music player. I'm listening to it right now. :)11:08
archangel_Digital_Pioneer: thanks dude11:08
Acidic32!dapper update11:09
Acidic32!dapper-update11:09
Digital_PioneerIt only handles album art as images go.11:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dapper update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dapper-update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:09
trappistAcidic32: do you have a question?11:09
archangel_Digital_Pioneer: it is also Linux version of iTunes11:10
archangel_works great with it Digital_Pioneer11:10
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Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: Let's take this to private conversation, shall we?11:10
archangel_sure11:11
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: That _is_ a registered nick isn't it? You don't seem to be getting my PMs.11:11
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archangel_I get yours11:11
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archangel_I just cant send any11:11
paulo!pants11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pants - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: OK, that makes sense.11:12
Acidic32yea11:12
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: Do you have any IMs?11:12
Acidic32how i enable dapper update11:12
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archangel_kopete11:12
archangel_accepted111:12
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: Protocol/ID?11:12
barjoh10hey dudes i am back11:12
Digital_PioneerAcidic32: Update? As in aptitude upgrade type update?11:13
DaSkreech!register > archangel_11:13
DaSkreechAcidic32: Sorry?11:13
archangel_no idea man, just put my screen name in and you can talk to me11:13
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barjoh10no archangel nooooooooooo11:13
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fdovingAcidic32: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu can help you.11:14
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archangel_? what the heck are you guys saying???      lol11:14
Digital_PioneerAcidic32: Have you looked at /etc/apt/sources.list? It should tell you something about it.11:14
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Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: Do you use Kopete with AIM? Yahoo?11:14
archangel_kopete11:15
fdoving!language > archangel_11:15
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: OK, I'll do my best to find you... ;)11:15
archangel_k11:15
archangel_its easy program to use11:15
archangel_brb11:15
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Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: It's your username with or without _?11:16
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stefanociao11:19
archangel_name on kopete is accepted111:19
Digital_Pioneerarchangel_: Ohhh!11:19
LjL!it11:20
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:20
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archangel_hey is heck a 'no-no' word?11:20
DaSkreechDepends on the admin who is on I guess11:21
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archangel_ahh11:21
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Acidic32!adept-crash-fixc11:22
Acidic32!adept-crash-fix11:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash-fixc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"11:22
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JosefKhey guys - the only complaint I really have with Kubuntu is the default Konsole font (and the way seemingly all the fonts look a bit cack), anyone have a link to a Monospace font that looks half-decent in Konsole?11:33
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DaSkreechcack?11:33
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ghosthello11:33
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JosefKUK colloquialism, roughly translates to 'poor'11:33
DaSkreechas in Blurry? Looks like a drunken snail formed it? Not enough curves?11:34
JosefKalmost exactly :)11:34
ghosti just installed xfce desktop environment on kubuntu dapper and i was wondering  if there was a help channel for it?11:34
JosefKactually, first time I've installed it on this system, and Courier 10 Pitch seems to be okay here11:35
vgeJosefK: i just use bitstream vera sans mono11:35
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icheyneJosefK, the deja fonts are good11:37
JosefKvge: I guess this could just be me switching from Gnome, I'll get used to how Konsole renders text in time11:37
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SlimGWhere is the app-images that pop up in Katapult located? they seem like highres or vector, I thought it was the icons in /usr/share/app-install/icons but they are merely 48x48 png's11:37
vgei just wanna know how i disable mousewheel in taskbar changing windows? grrr11:38
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JosefKvge: Panel Properties -> Taskbar -> Middle Button11:39
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JosefKvge: there doesn't seem to be an option to 'disable' the middle button, but you might be able to choose something less annoying?11:40
icheyneJosefK, this should helpl you with fonts http://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/Font.html#intro11:40
JosefKicheyne: thanks :)11:41
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icheyneJosefK, np11:41
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vgeJosefK: and chaning that option to something else dont change the fact that you can still switch windows by using mousewheel in taskbar?11:41
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JosefKvge: :/ <-- unsure11:42
vgeJosefK: i think it's the wheelbutton that's beeing confiqured, not the mousewheel itself11:43
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willwork4foohiya! I'm trying to find a decent howto for installing kubuntu over a PXE network boot?11:44
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willwork4foocan anyone help me out here?11:44
JosefKwillwork4foo: this is from the Ubuntu wiki - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=PXEInstall - but I've never tried it, so good luck :)11:45
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mirhi11:46
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malcolmI've installed the jre, and some java apps work, but others say that there's no valid jre on the computer, I remember fixing this error b4 but can't remember how i did it, can someone help me(i do know i added a few lines to some file)?11:47
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barjoh10hi miri11:48
JosefKif you installed the Sun JRE, did you run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java && sudo update-alternatives --config jar' too?11:48
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malcolmi just ran that line and the location to my jre isn't in the list11:51
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barjoh10someone11:51
JosefKmalcolm: ack :/ did you not install it using apt?11:51
malcolmi think so11:52
JosefKmalcolm: hmm, if you did, it should be in that list.  if it still won't work, you can set it explicitly using 'sudo update-alternatives --set java *path-to-java-binary*', same for jar's11:52
malcolmno i didn't11:52
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JosefKmalcolm: heh ;) take it off, add the 'multiverse' repository to apt, and install the sun-java5-jre package11:53
malcolmi downloaded a file and executed it11:53
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JosefKmalcolm: hopefully it's left an uninstaller, if not, it's probably safer to leave it to rot in a corner of your filesystem11:53
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barjoh10miri11:54
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DaSkreechbarjoh10: Miri left11:54
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shadowhywindanybody have any ideas on how to get an IP from wireless network.. my laptop sees the wireless but refuses to grab an ip11:54
barjoh10i thought11:55
barjoh10u11:55
barjoh10were vex with me11:55
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DaSkreechMe?11:56
DaSkreechWhy?11:56
barjoh10daskreech11:56
DaSkreechAnnoyed maybe but no reason to get vexed11:56
CVirusshadowhywind: sudo dhclient ethx11:56
barjoh10sory if i hurt u OK11:57
DaSkreechbarjoh10: I'm not hurt :) You are just young is all11:57
DaSkreechNothing that time doesn't heal :)11:57
LjLyou wish11:57
barjoh10whatu mean abot too young11:57
DaSkreechbarjoh10: Thats why I said it would be fun to have you save the log so you can read it in 20 years11:58
DaSkreechbarjoh10: Nothing you are just young is all11:59
barjoh10 no iam6311:59
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CVirusbarjoh10: you're too old then11:59
CVirusDaSkreech: you could have just ignored him from the beginning11:59
barjoh10hahahahahahahah..........(hey)12:00
DaSkreechHeehee12:00
DaSkreechCVirus: Don't think that ignoring the young helps them or me12:00
CVirusDaSkreech: at least it helps you12:00
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DaSkreechbarjoh10: That's why you left the offtopic room?12:00
barjoh10lets go to the oofchat or something12:01
barjoh10yes lts go there12:01
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DaSkreechbarjoh10: I'm there already :)12:02
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DaSkreechbarjoh10: /join #kubuntu-offtopic12:02
izzyb_!blacklist12:02
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list12:02
barjoh10yyyeeeeeeeessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!12:02
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izzyb_hmm, I don't have my_blacklist, but do have a file called blacklist, and a few others (blacklist-*)12:03
izzyb_I tried adding the blacklist modulename to the blacklist file, but it doesn't seem tot work12:04
izzyb_should I create the my_blacklist file instead? how does it differ from the file blacklist?12:04
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pacmananyone familiar with getting a printer set up?12:10
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