[12:12] <BluesKaj> well, I installed flashplyer in all the browsers, but it still won't work with some media ...guess it has to be the 8.0 version which isn't available for linux yet :(
[12:12] <pap> im new to linux  is there a media bundle pack?
[12:13] <pap> to download
[12:14] <ravaria> dont know
[12:14] <pap> why dont you know?
[12:14] <pap> :/
[12:15] <dragonflyseven> pap: You mean to get most multimedia to start working?
[12:15] <ravaria> cause im new at this
[12:15] <inphilwetrust> hello?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> !media
[12:15] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:16] <Kim^J> Whats the name of the se xkb package?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[12:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:16] <dragonflyseven> pap: For an easy way to install lots of codecs, check out Easy Ubuntu. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208310&highlight=pdf+forms)
[12:16] <inphilwetrust> anyone know anything setting up a torrent client on a college dorm network?
[12:17] <NightBird> how do I install .rpm files?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> no rpms in ubuntu
[12:17] <Kim^J> NightBird: sudo apt-get install alien
[12:17] <Kim^J> alien file.rpm file.deb
[12:18] <Kim^J> BluesKaj: alien can convert.
[12:18] <NightBird> hm...
[12:18] <BluesKaj> yeah, but one can DL the debs or tar files
[12:18] <BluesKaj> equivalents
[12:18] <driz> I'm trying toi fill out this PDF form and it's not working!!!! not cool i need to this
[12:19] <driz> i have pdftk and acroreader installed still can't fill it out!!!!
[12:19] <driz> Kubuntu is not making me happy right now!
[12:20] <grothesk_> Anyone using lightscribe in kubuntu?
[12:20] <grothesk_> http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10803
[12:21] <grothesk_> It says it is validatet on Ubuntu. But it is a rpm. O_o
[12:21] <BluesKaj> heh, i have it but don't even use it windows
[12:21] <driz> anyone?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> in windows
[12:21] <dragonflyseven> driz: sorry man
[12:22] <BluesKaj> prolly need xtra drivers for your burner
[12:22] <grothesk_> If you don't use it, don't buy it.
[12:23] <grothesk_> But if you are interested in it, you can use it now under your favourite OS. Nice.
[12:23] <driz> dragonflyseven: eh it's ok I'm going to have to do it at work on a windows computer
[12:23] <driz> people will bad mouth me because i usually tell them to try kubuntu
[12:25] <dragonflyseven> driz: Thats how it always is. Someday they will realize their mistake, but it will be too late. Bwahaha. :)
[12:25] <driz> dragonflyseven: YUP... =.=
[12:26] <soulrider> is anyone here using beryl ?
[12:27] <LjL> !beryl > soulrider
[12:28] <fdoving> gnite.
[12:43] <avagant> Anybody here?
[12:47] <|lostbyte|> avagant, Hi :)
[12:48] <avagant> hey there.
[12:48] <soulrider> hi
[12:48] <avagant> so uh, i just installed kubuntu coming from ubuntu.
[12:48] <avagant> and i have 2 hard drives.
[12:49] <avagant> the second one, i left untouched but now when i try to play mp3's in anything amarok etc, it basically starts it and ends it.
[12:49] <soulrider> ah yes
[12:49] <soulrider> you gotta install support for it
[12:49] <soulrider> !mp3
[12:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:50] <avagant> but i just finished installing all the 'streamers'
[12:50] <avagant> and what not, and it's still doing it?
[12:50] <soulrider> uhm
[12:50] <|lostbyte|> avagant, sudo apt-get install w32codecs libxine-extracodecs gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[12:51] <soulrider> i htink i read about mp3 support ont he amaork forums
[12:51] <soulrider> or hte amarok site
[12:51] <soulrider> you might wanna read there
[12:51] <soulrider> oh, install that :P
[12:51] <soulrider> or*
[12:53] <avagant> It keeps telling me it can't play mp3's and to install mp3 support which is what I just did?
[12:54] <avagant> up nevermind.
[12:54] <avagant> There it goes.
[12:55] <avagant> Nothing a good old quit and restart will handle.
[12:58] <haleu> hello all
[12:59] <|lostbyte|> haleu, Hi.
[12:59] <haleu> how mash memory most i have too run kubuntu
[12:59] <|lostbyte|> haleu, huh, 256 MB atlest.
[12:59] <|lostbyte|> 512 Recommended.
[01:00] <haleu> ok
[01:00] <haleu> i have 512 in my computer
[01:00] <avagant> Hey how do I get konquerer to use the flash and java plug ins.
[01:00] <dennister> howdy pps; could anyone help me fix the trash applet?
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> avagant, there is a plugins settin in its configuration.
[01:02] <dennister> hi lostbyte :)
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> dennister, Hi, Long time.
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> :)
[01:03] <dennister> yes, u've been quiet...and i working on a brand new installation
[01:03] <|lostbyte|> dennister, :) then welcome back ..
[01:03] <dennister> again :( i wanted it pristine b4 i tried again with the ivtv drivers
[01:03] <avagant> o rly
[01:03] <avagant> I'll have to go look that up Riiiiiiight now.
[01:04] <dennister> right now i wonder if u could help me with my trash applet?
[01:04] <|lostbyte|> dennister, whats with it ?
[01:04] <dennister> it just has never worked in kubuntu/kde...only with gnome
[01:05] <|lostbyte|> dennister, what do you mean by not working ?
[01:05] <dennister> if i try to send something to trash in konq, i get an error message that it can't make certain files
[01:05] <dennister> i then make those directories as root, and trash applet still can't find them
[01:08] <avagant> Hey that's neat, I don't really have to configure the whole alsa ordeal.
[01:08] <avagant> I can get 2 things playing at once.
[01:09] <cpk2> mencoder does avi to mpg2 right?
[01:09] <|lostbyte|> cpk2, huh, yes.. i guess.
[01:09] <dennister> i just made a screenshot and saved it...then tried to send it to trash..."could not make folder /home/username/.local/share/Trash."
[01:10] <dennister> sometimes it says the same thing, but adds a further directory to the path: info
[01:11] <dennister> why does it work in gnome, but not in kde/kubuntu?
[01:11] <|lostbyte|> dennister, the appplet doest show up ?
[01:11] <dennister> no, it shows up, just doesn't function
[01:12] <|lostbyte|> dennister, open trash:/ in konqueror.
[01:12] <Homer> is trash in KDE user specific?
[01:12] <dennister> k...and the same error message is in there
[01:13] <dennister> this time about the info
[01:13] <dennister> trash can't be loaded
[01:14] <|lostbyte|> dennister, mkdir ~/.local/share/Trash/info
[01:14] <dennister> I tried that earlier b4 coming in here...didn't work
[01:15] <dennister> but i'll try again...
[01:16] <word> Hmm..for some reason..over a period of time (a few hours) my computer's memory (1 gig) eventually gets all used up and..everything slows down.
[01:17] <|lostbyte|> word, free ?
[01:17] <dennister> k...root terminal told me it cannot creat directory...no such file or directory
[01:18] <word> |lostbyte|: free?
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> dennister, as normal user. not as root.
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> word, output of command "free"
[01:18] <dennister> tried that too...: Permission denied
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> dennister, argh, get into root..
[01:19] <word> |lostbyte|: it's not especially slow right now but under the memory free column - 29,996
[01:19] <dennister> k...didn't get an error message this time...let's see
[01:20] <|lostbyte|> dennister, as user do, sudo mv ~/.local/share/Trash ~/.local/share/xTrash
[01:20] <|lostbyte|> dennister, then do..
[01:21] <|lostbyte|> dennister, then as user do, mkdir ~/.local/share/Trash/info ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[01:21] <|lostbyte|> word, what does it say for total swap ?
[01:22] <word> |lostbyte|: none of the swap is in  use
[01:22] <word> but 1,558,264
[01:23] <word> for some reason when i installed suse on top of it suse wanted a massive swap..i'm planning on reducing it soon...
[01:24] <dennister> |lostbyte|: sorry..didn't work...did the two commands u gave me to the letter (copy & paste) and nada...can't create the directories
[01:24] <|lostbyte|> word, The memroy is not all used up but is stored as disk cache. its a linux feature. dont worry abou tit.
[01:25] <word> |lostbyte|: ...the computer slows to the point of unusability after a few hours which is something to worry about..
[01:25] <|lostbyte|> word, It must be an application.
[01:26] <word> yah..would it stop slowing down after the application is closed? or is there a way for me to 'clean' the memory if this is a memory leak problem?
[01:26] <|lostbyte|> dennister, did you do.. the mkdir command.
[01:26] <dennister> yes, i did
[01:27] <|lostbyte|> dennister, what output did you get for it ?
[01:27] <dennister> mkdir: cannot create directory...(the path)...No such file or directory
[01:28] <bilbrey> hola. bluetooth mac mini (ppc) blues. Google no bloody help at all. Anyone here with experience or a pointer?
[01:28] <|lostbyte|> dennister, ok, seems that it creates it automatically, do this .. sudo rm ~/.local/share/Trash/ -rfv
[01:29] <|lostbyte|> dennister, and run trash:/ in konqueror..
[01:29] <word> |lostbyte|: do you know how to free memory caused by a memory leak in an application?
[01:30] <|lostbyte|> word, MEmory allocation is done by the kernel, I dought there is way..
[01:31] <dennister> k...still the same error message in konq: can't load trash:/...could not make folder...(ath)
[01:31] <|lostbyte|> word, Best is to Remove / Upgrade that application.
[01:31] <word> |lostbyte|: how would i find out what application it is?
[01:31] <|lostbyte|> word, command "top" or ctrl + esc ..
[01:32] <|lostbyte|> dennister, huh.. ls -l ~/.local/ ?
[01:33] <word> |lostbyte|: how big is -too big-?
[01:35] <|lostbyte|> word, look at the vmsize, if its taking more, than usual.
[01:35] <dennister> k...seems root owns both the applications and xTrash directories in ~/.local/share
[01:35] <dennister> permissions are drwxr-xr-x
[01:35] <|lostbyte|> dennister, what about the shares folder ?
[01:36] <dennister> there are 2 directories in ~/.local/share...applications and xTrash
[01:36] <dennister> root owns both of them with the permissions noted above
[01:36] <|lostbyte|> dennister, ls -l ~/.local/              ..?
[01:37] <dennister> i did that first, and only got the share directory...as in the path i always got in the error messages
[01:37] <|lostbyte|> yeah that dir is woned by whom ?
[01:38] <|lostbyte|> owned*
[01:38] <dennister> share dir is owned by root, too, with the same permissions
[01:38] <|lostbyte|> Argh.. ok whats your username on that system ?
[01:39] <dennister> |lostbyte|: u talking to me, asking me my username?
[01:39] <dennister> it's cathy
[01:39] <dennister> there: i've blown my real name :)
[01:40] <|lostbyte|> dennister, sudo chown cathy:cathy ~/.local/share
[01:40] <|lostbyte|> dennister, Hi cathy :P
[01:40] <dennister> heheheh...k done
[01:40] <|lostbyte|> My real name is Ryan.
[01:41] <dennister> not too many females in here, eh?
[01:41] <|lostbyte|> ok, now rm ~/.local/share/xTrash
[01:41] <|lostbyte|> with sudo.
[01:43] <|lostbyte|> dennister, sudo rm ~/.local/share/xTrash -rfv
[01:44] <dennister> shouldn't i do "rmdir ~/.local/share/xTrash/info -rfv" first?
[01:44] <dennister> it's not empty
[01:45] <|lostbyte|> dennister, -r removes a directory and files in it recersivly.
[01:46] <dennister> k...it gave me an error message at first, but i believe it worked this time
[01:46] <flavioribeiro> i have to install one fuckin win software, whats the better 'win emulator'?
[01:47] <dennister> at least terminal told me it removed...xTrash
[01:47] <|lostbyte|> dennister, Now run trash:/ in konqueror.
[01:47] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, language plz.
[01:47] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, What software ?
[01:47] <flavioribeiro> circuit maker
[01:47] <dennister> yeyyyyyy!!!
[01:48] <dennister> no error messages :)
[01:48] <|lostbyte|> dennister, :)
[01:48] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, sudo apt-get install wine
[01:48] <dennister> thank you |lostbyte|! <kiss>
[01:48] <|lostbyte|> :-X
[01:48] <dennister> boy that thing was stubborn
[01:48] <flavioribeiro> the teacher said to me that i need to install this software to learn to work at this interface |lostbyte|
[01:49] <|lostbyte|> !wine
[01:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:49] <flavioribeiro> thanks
[01:49] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, ^^
[01:49] <flavioribeiro> X)
[01:49] <dennister> hmmm: maybe I'll have to try wine...would love to be able to run Endnote on my kubuntu
[01:50] <dennister> of course, the front end is a plugin for ms word, but I work mainly in the backend database
[01:51] <|lostbyte|> k
[01:52] <flavioribeiro> my apt couldnt find wine :|
[01:52] <dennister> k...is there a bigger newb than I that I can help?
[01:52] <LjL> flavioribeiro: you don't have Universe enabled i guess
[01:53] <LjL> !tell flavioribeiro about universe
[01:53] <LjL> !tell flavioribeiro about wine
[01:53] <word> |lostbyte|: i figure it's session saver in a firefox-based browser called flock...or maybe flock itself since it's beta...gonna stay away from it until an update claiming to fix problems like that i guess.
[01:54] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, sudo echo "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main">>/etc/apt/sources.list
[01:54] <reybit> qualcuno ancora sveglio che parla italiano?
[01:54] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, sudo apt-get update
[01:54] <LjL> !it
[01:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:54] <reybit> well, very thanks
[01:55] <flavioribeiro> huh thanks
[01:55] <flavioribeiro> let me see if works now
[01:55] <|lostbyte|> word, yes, firefox really slowes down reaction time here. home its fixed in ver 2
[01:55] <flavioribeiro> Falha ao baixar http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[01:56] <flavioribeiro> Falha ao baixar http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[01:56] <flavioribeiro> eps
[01:56] <flavioribeiro> sorry :\
[01:56] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, just a min..
[01:56] <flavioribeiro> ok
[01:58] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, when do you get the above ?
[01:58] <flavioribeiro> at the end of 'update'
[01:59] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, try it again..
[01:59] <flavioribeiro> Ign http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper/main Packages
[01:59] <flavioribeiro> Err http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper/main Packages
[01:59] <flavioribeiro>   404 Not Found
[02:00] <|lostbyte|> Your on edgy ?
[02:00] <flavioribeiro> i dont know whats edgy :( im lammo
[02:01] <dennister> k...does anyone know of the last developments in regards to the PLF repositories? can't get them into synaptic or adept
[02:02] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, have you done a full_upgrade lately ?
[02:02] <dennister> got w32codecs installed, but need to fix my java plugins...installed them the hard way, thru the original packages
[02:02] <flavioribeiro> yes
[02:03] <flavioribeiro> after the installation i updated and upgrated
[02:03] <flavioribeiro> i cant just get the .deb?
[02:04] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, you could do that..
[02:04] <dennister> hi bLaZeD
[02:04] <flavioribeiro> but install by apt its better
[02:04] <dennister> how's it going?
[02:05] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, I guess the dont have an edgy repo..
[02:05] <|lostbyte|> Download the deb from the main site.
[02:05] <|lostbyte|> !java
[02:05] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:05] <|lostbyte|> dennister, ^^
[02:05] <flavioribeiro> ok, but if u wanna paste your repos i will be great
[02:06] <|lostbyte|> All you need is sun-java5-jre
[02:06] <|lostbyte|> flavioribeiro, Guess, you have to wait, cause edgy is'nt officially out.
[02:07] <dennister> |lostbyte|: yes, I was trying to follow that same howto...but because I had to install those java packages individually (PLF repositories being unavailable due to the maintainers retiring) this howto isn't working too well
[02:08] <smaggard> hi
[02:08] <Riddell> hi smaggard
[02:08] <smaggard> hiiyas
[02:08] <|lostbyte|> dennister, ok
[02:09] <dennister> for instance...my java is in a different directory, so the line update=java-alternatives -l isn't giving me the sun java choice
[02:09] <smaggard> hmmm
[02:09] <smaggard> did u install it using apt-get?
[02:10] <dennister> smaggard: r u talking to me? no, i couldn't because, as I said, there was a problem with the PLF repositories
[02:11] <smaggard> hmm
[02:11] <smaggard> brb
[02:11] <dennister> k
[02:11] <|lostbyte|> dennister, you just need the plugins ?
[02:12] <|lostbyte|> dennister, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:13] <|lostbyte|> dennister, Your using the plugin for a browser ?
[02:14] <dennister> i can't apt-get the plugins because the PLF repositories are unavailable
[02:14] <dennister> i can't get them into apt or any other installer
[02:14] <smaggard> add the right repositories.. its real easy
[02:14] <dennister> i tried for ages to get them into my sources.list
[02:15] <smaggard> its reallly easy
[02:15] <smaggard> really
[02:15] <dennister> smaggard: normally it is; i've done it many times
[02:15] <|lostbyte|> dennister, Anyways. Its Nighty Night for me. take care and Goodnight..
[02:15] <|lostbyte|> Bye All.
[02:15] <dennister> thanks |lostbyte|
[02:15] <smaggard> bye
[02:16] <dennister> smaggard: if u can find me a deb line that works, great, but many of the PLF maintainers have recently retired
[02:16] <dennister> so they're not offering these packages anymore
[02:17] <dennister> and this is since this past Saturday, too --the unavailability is that recent
[02:17] <smaggard> what version of kubuntu are you running?
[02:18] <dennister> dapper
[02:18] <dennister> 2.6.15-27-amd64-k8
[02:20] <dennister> http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/breezy/non-free/ is the only place I could find to download the packages indivdiually with dkpg -i --force-architecture
[02:20] <smaggard> o well in breezy i have this :
[02:20] <smaggard> # For Java and w32codecs
[02:20] <smaggard> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[02:20] <smaggard> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[02:21] <dennister> k...seems to be very similar to what I had...hold on
[02:22] <dr`venom> hey guys do any of you know how I can get a native resolution of 1440x900?
[02:22] <dr`venom> It does not show up as an option
[02:23] <dr`venom> I've already installed my nvidia drivers
[02:23] <smaggard> go into your xorg.conf
[02:23] <smaggard> u know where that is?
[02:23] <dr`venom> I was in there
[02:23] <dr`venom> yea
[02:23] <smaggard> ok
[02:23] <dr`venom> I see three values
[02:23] <smaggard> you can add a mode of that resolution
[02:24] <dr`venom> when I add the 1440x900, half of the desktop goes off screen
[02:24] <dr`venom> "1440x900"
[02:24] <smaggard> does your monitor support that high?
[02:24] <dennister> smaggard: k...edited my synaptic repositories to yours and I got the same error message when I tried to reload: Could not download all repository indexes
[02:24] <dr`venom> yea
[02:24] <smaggard> hmm what are you apt-getting?
[02:25] <dr`venom> its native resolution is 1440x900 (LCD)
[02:25] <dennister> "the packages may no longer be available..." and they have retired, yes, since Saturday
[02:25] <smaggard> are you just trying to install java?
[02:26] <dennister> I have installed java, but I had to do it through another method than thru the plf and apt-get, synaptic...
[02:26] <dennister> let me find the howto i followed
[02:26] <smaggard> dr venom> did you add the resolution to the modes section?
[02:27] <dr`venom> yea
[02:27] <dr`venom> nothing came out other than what is already there
[02:27] <dr`venom> should I restart the computer
[02:27] <dr`venom> maybe that will get it going?
[02:27] <smaggard> for example :
[02:27] <smaggard> Section "Screen"
[02:27] <smaggard>     Identifier    "Default Screen"
[02:27] <dennister> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:27] <smaggard>     Device        "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] "
[02:27] <smaggard>     Monitor        "CM752ET"
[02:27] <smaggard>     DefaultDepth    16
[02:27] <smaggard>     SubSection "Display":
[02:27] <smaggard>         Depth        16
[02:27] <smaggard>         Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768"
[02:27] <smaggard>     EndSubSection
[02:27] <smaggard> EndSection
[02:28] <dr`venom> my monitor says generic
[02:28] <smaggard> yeah thats fine
[02:28] <smaggard> what drive is xorg.conf using?
[02:29] <dennister> !java
[02:29] <dr`venom> it is using nvidia
[02:29] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:29] <dr`venom> driver "nvidia"
[02:30] <smaggard> what about modeline, did you add the resolution there too?
[02:30] <dr`venom> yea
[02:30] <smaggard> hmm iunno then thats weird
[02:31] <dr`venom> so under mode "1440x900" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[02:31] <dennister> so the first howto i gave the link for did install the java packages into /usr/local/java32, but I can't seem to go on from there using the second howto
[02:31] <dr`venom> but it only gives me the last three options
[02:31] <dr`venom> can I take out one of those resolutions and add mine
[02:31] <dr`venom> maybe it only supports 3?
[02:32] <dr`venom> I did that one time before and it worked, but then my sound went out
[02:32] <dr`venom> lol
[02:32] <dr`venom> so I reinstalled
[02:34] <dr`venom> hey under section "device" I only have two lines
[02:34] <dr`venom> is that ok
[02:34] <dr`venom> I only have identifier and a driver line
[02:35] <dennister> smaggard: u seem to be very busy with dr`venom here, so I'll come back later
[02:38] <MegaMasterX> hello
[02:40] <Zaire_Away> weee I got my forum working lol
[02:42] <dr`venom> man, this resolution is killing me
[02:44] <dr`venom> ok, what is the deal with this thing
[02:44] <dr`venom> so, I got it at 1440x900 now
[02:45] <dr`venom> but whenever, I log out and come back it gives me this huge ass resolution where I can't see 1/2 of my desktop
[02:45] <dr`venom> I have to reset the resolution for it to be at 1440x900
[02:46] <granbar> Hello. Where should I put the firmware files of ivtv?
[02:46] <dr`venom> brb, I have to go eat
[02:46] <dr`venom> lol
[02:47] <granbar> I get an error:
[02:47] <granbar> ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[02:48] <argonel> is anything known about the mouse cursor jumping around by itself?
[02:49] <granbar> It happens to all mouses in the world
[02:49] <granbar> especially on laptops
[02:49] <MegaMasterX> Can anyone give me some assistance?
[02:49] <argonel> for instance, i'll be moving it left near the bottom left, it will suddenly be on the right near the middle
[02:50] <MegaMasterX> I need to upgrade my video drivers, but I can't open the exe file
[02:50] <coreymon77> of course not
[02:50] <coreymon77> exe is doze
[02:50] <argonel> could be a sfx zip
[02:50] <MegaMasterX> What's the terminal command to unzip it?
[02:51] <argonel> probably unzip
[02:51] <MegaMasterX> Hm, ok.
[02:51] <MegaMasterX> Let me try real quick
[02:51] <CVirus> !
[02:51] <argonel> not very imaginative, i agree
[02:52] <MegaMasterX> OH I'm so sorry, it's a ".run" file
[02:52] <granbar> sh filename.run
[02:52] <MegaMasterX> I've tried that
[02:52] <granbar> or chmod it to 700
[02:52] <granbar> or something
[02:52] <MegaMasterX> Oh i see
[02:52] <MegaMasterX> there we go
[02:52] <granbar> :)
[02:53] <MegaMasterX> Oh darn, it needs to be run as the root user.
[02:53] <MegaMasterX> >.<
[02:53] <granbar> sudo it
[02:53] <argonel> comforting
[02:53] <MegaMasterX> sudo?
[02:53] <MegaMasterX> Sorry, i'm new to the Linux scene
[02:53] <argonel> man sudo
[02:53] <granbar> sudo ./name_of_file.run
[02:53] <MegaMasterX> ok
[02:53] <granbar> ( in the same directory )
[02:53] <granbar> You will be asked for your password
[02:53] <dr`venom> rebooting
[02:53] <dr`venom> I hope it works, I dont want to go back to suse
[02:54] <MegaMasterX> It says command not found....
[02:54] <MegaMasterX> after it asked for my password
[02:54] <MegaMasterX> sudo: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86.1.0-8774.pkg1.run: command not found
[02:55] <MegaMasterX> Now it's not asking for the password at all, does it save the fact that I entered the password?
[02:56] <argonel> for a while, yes
[02:57] <argonel> MegaMasterX: probably needs better permissions.. chmod a+x the_file
[02:57] <smaggard> yeah it will rember the root password :D
[02:58] <zen2> for a short time
[02:58] <dr`venom> man
[02:58] <dr`venom> it sort of works now
[02:58] <dr`venom> lol
[02:58] <slop> which package is the one that gives you the ability to play mp3's from the console using the command 'play'?
[02:58] <VanessaE> sox?
[02:59] <MegaMasterX> Still saying Command not found >.< Frustrating.
[02:59] <slop> VanessaE, thx
[02:59] <argonel> MegaMasterX: head -1 the_file, whats it say?
[02:59] <smaggard> command now found? type ls and see if its listed there
[03:00] <MegaMasterX> #! /bin/sh
[03:00] <argonel> odd. i never use sudo, don't know how to debug its problems :p
[03:00] <VanessaE> it's been a while, slop - that might not be the right pkg
[03:01] <slop> VanessaE, it was, thanks :)  (setting up an icon on my 4 year old's computer so it will play a song for her)
[03:01] <VanessaE> ah
[03:01] <argonel> MegaMasterX: how about sudo sh the_file?
[03:01] <MegaMasterX> sh: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774.pkg1.run: No such file or directory
[03:02] <MegaMasterX> Whoops
[03:02] <MegaMasterX> I forgot the ./
[03:02] <smaggard> yeah
[03:02] <MegaMasterX> sh: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774.pkg1.run: No such file or directory
[03:02] <MegaMasterX> O_O
[03:02] <argonel> perhaps there are instructions where you got the file?
[03:02] <MegaMasterX> None.
[03:02] <MegaMasterX> There aren't any on the nVidia website
[03:02] <argonel> O_o
[03:03] <sam_> MegaMasterX: sh /path/to/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774.pkg1.run
[03:04] <argonel> MegaMasterX: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8774/README/chapter-04.html
[03:04] <MegaMasterX> Hm.
[03:05] <argonel> click on the home link to get the toc
[03:05] <MegaMasterX> Sam_ It still doesn't work
[03:06] <MegaMasterX> ok argonel, I'll look into it
[03:06] <sam_> shrug, apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:06] <MegaMasterX> (Forgive the spam)
[03:06] <MegaMasterX> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:06] <MegaMasterX> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:07] <CVirus> sudo
[03:07] <MegaMasterX> sudo the exe?
[03:07] <MegaMasterX> er the run file?
[03:07] <argonel> no, sudo apt-get
[03:07] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:07] <MegaMasterX> oh lol
[03:07] <MegaMasterX> :O!
[03:07] <MegaMasterX> It's alive!
[03:08] <MegaMasterX> I'm thinking it's done.
[03:08] <MegaMasterX> so that's all I need to do? It's upgraded?
[03:09] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: restart X
[03:09] <MegaMasterX> .....I didn't know Kubuntu had X.....I hate being a newbie...
[03:10] <CVirus> err
[03:10] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: you need to read more about GNU/Linux
[03:10] <MegaMasterX> I agree.
[03:11] <MegaMasterX> I only took half a class on it, I'm able to work RedHat but Kubuntu...I dont know the differences
[03:12] <MegaMasterX> I'm gonna just restart the machiene.
[03:12] <OOD> dont
[03:12] <MegaMasterX> ?
[03:12] <MegaMasterX> Why
[03:12] <OOD> Ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X
[03:13] <MegaMasterX> OOH Thank you
[03:13] <VanessaE> just ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X...  you're not supposed to need to restart linux
[03:13] <CVirus> wait
[03:13] <VanessaE> except for a kernel change of course.
[03:13] <OOD> yea
[03:13] <VanessaE> sigh
[03:13] <VanessaE> too busy feeling homesick (Google Earth)
[03:13] <OOD> now lets hope he comes back
[03:13] <OOD> heh
[03:14] <CVirus> fine
[03:14] <OOD> welcome back
[03:14] <megamasterx> Thank you.
[03:14] <CVirus> megamasterx: feeling better now ?
[03:14] <megamasterx> haha I think so, let me test my game now
[03:15] <OOD> you dont ever need to restart linux unless a kernel upgrade
[03:15] <CVirus> what game was it ?
[03:15] <megamasterx> Uh oh.
[03:15] <megamasterx> Graal.
[03:15] <megamasterx> Could not find a compatable OpenGL Displa Resolution. Please Check your driver configuration. (Error: Couldn't find matching GLX Visual)
[03:15] <megamasterx> *Display
[03:15] <VanessaE> mega: open a terminal, glxinfo
[03:15] <CVirus> megamasterx: glxinfo | grep render
[03:16] <VanessaE> er, yeah that
[03:16] <tony_> Hello. KDE .. how can i add folder to root / var /www ??? thanks
[03:16] <megamasterx> Oh jeez there are about 8 errors
[03:16] <VanessaE> actually, grep -i
[03:16] <CVirus> tony_: kdesu konqueror
[03:16] <VanessaE> mega: lsmod - is "nvidia" listed
[03:16] <VanessaE> ?
[03:16] <tony_> thanks
[03:17] <megamasterx> Yes
[03:17] <megamasterx> it is
[03:17] <Hawkwind> You really should *not* run konqueror as root
[03:17] <Hawkwind> That is a really really bad idea
[03:17] <VanessaE> ok..  try chmod 1666 /dev/nvidia* and restart X again
[03:17] <MegaMasterX> should I use sudo?
[03:17] <VanessaE> yeah
[03:18] <MegaMasterX> I'm learning :)
[03:18] <tony_> when i use that command, i get many error listed in konsole .. and konquere open but i can not access  www folder
[03:18] <MegaMasterX> chmod: cannot access `/dev/nvidia': No such file or directory
[03:18] <VanessaE> nvidia*
[03:18] <driz> Hey Hawkwind, do you know how to get the arobat reader which lets you fill out PDF forms
[03:18] <driz> ?
[03:18] <CVirus> tony_: which command andw hat error !
[03:18] <VanessaE> (with the star)
[03:18] <Hawkwind> tony_: Because you don't need to run konqueror as root, ever
[03:18] <MegaMasterX> ok now
[03:18] <tony_> kdesu konqueror.. and i get errors about BadDevice..
[03:18] <Hawkwind> tony_: The advice given to you was wrong.
[03:18] <MegaMasterX> It apparently worked
[03:19] <VanessaE> ok, try restarting X and try your game again
[03:19] <Hawkwind> tony_: That's not an error, just a warning.  But please don't use kdesu konqueror
[03:19] <tony_> if i don't use it as root , it seems i can not add folder
[03:19] <OOD> Hawkwind: is there a specific reason why not? or just to be save and avoid deleting / ?
[03:19] <MotorCitymadMan> !usb
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <Hawkwind> tony_: sudo mkdir /var/www/whatever
[03:19] <tony_> thanks. will try that
[03:19] <MotorCitymadMan> !mount
[03:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:20] <MegaMasterX> It's still showing quite a number of "GLX Extention" missing errors
[03:20] <Hawkwind> OOD: Because it can and will change perms on certain files by default forcing konqueror to not open at all until after a reboot
[03:20] <VanessaE> Mega: you have to restart X to make that change take effect
[03:20] <MegaMasterX> Oh.
[03:20] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:20] <VanessaE> (at least, I always had to)
[03:22] <MegaMasterX> lets check for errors now.
[03:22] <MegaMasterX> .....They're still there..
[03:22] <VanessaE> eh.
[03:22] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: lsmod | grep nvidia
[03:22] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:23] <MegaMasterX> got it, now what
[03:23] <tony_> now how can i write to that file ?? im learning PHP so i creat files using KATE.. but need to save to the folder just created. and i have no access right
[03:23] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: what is the output ?
[03:23] <MegaMasterX> (Excuse the spam)
[03:23] <CVirus> no no no
[03:23] <CVirus> wait
[03:23] <MegaMasterX> ?
[03:23] <CVirus> dont paste !!
[03:23] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:24] <OOD> !pastebin
[03:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:24] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: ^
[03:24] <MegaMasterX> oh lol
[03:24] <MegaMasterX> Done
[03:24] <driz>  does anyone know how to get the adobe reader which lets you fill out PDF forms?
[03:24] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: give me the link
[03:24] <MegaMasterX> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27166/
[03:25] <tony_> how can i make the folder writable ? :):)
[03:25] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: the nvidia module is loaded ... now ... glxinfo | grep render
[03:25] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:25] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: paste the output too
[03:26] <MegaMasterX> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27167/
[03:27] <VanessaE> copy&paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[03:27] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:28] <CVirus> !nvidia
[03:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:28] <RagePrblm> thx I was looking for that!
[03:28] <MegaMasterX> Done
[03:29] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: give him the URL !
[03:29] <RagePrblm> Does anyone know how to change the desktop setting, from 1 click to open an icon/program to a double click?
[03:29] <MegaMasterX> oops
[03:29] <VanessaE> url plz :)
[03:29] <MegaMasterX> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27168/
[03:29] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: what is the exact model of your card ?
[03:29] <VanessaE> (him?  gee, thanks. :)
[03:29] <MegaMasterX> nVidia GeForce 4
[03:29] <MegaMasterX> GPU
[03:29] <CVirus> 4xxx ?
[03:29] <MegaMasterX> It was built in to my motherboard.
[03:29] <RagePrblm> ouch
[03:29] <MegaMasterX> Just GeForce4
[03:30] <tony_> OK got how CHMOD works :P
[03:30] <OOD> RagePrblm: go to system settings->mouse & keyboard
[03:30] <VanessaE> 616. (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[03:30] <CVirus> built-in nvidia ?
[03:30] <VanessaE> there's the prob.
[03:30] <CVirus> are you sure about that ?!
[03:30] <RagePrblm> thanks OOD
[03:30] <MegaMasterX> CVirus: Yes
[03:30] <MegaMasterX> and VanessaE: I don't get it what do i need to do
[03:30] <OOD> RagePrblm: np
[03:30] <VanessaE> something tells me his X isn't even finding the glx module at all (I've had issues like that before)
[03:31] <VanessaE> no, strike that..  it found it.
[03:31] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: lspci | grep -i nvidia
[03:31] <MegaMasterX> You did?
[03:31] <MegaMasterX> woah thats a lot of output
[03:31] <MegaMasterX> pastebin?
[03:31] <VanessaE> hm, model NV18 - GF4 MX
[03:31] <VanessaE> sounds like my husband's card, come to think of it
[03:32] <RagePrblm> thats a gf2 gpu i think
[03:32] <MegaMasterX> Well, its built in to my Abit NF7-M motherboard.
[03:32] <CVirus> ouch
 (him?  gee, thanks. :)
[03:32] <CVirus> VanessaE: sorry about that
[03:32] <VanessaE> s'ok :)
[03:32] <MegaMasterX> Should I pastebin the output?
[03:32] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: yes
[03:32] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:33] <MegaMasterX> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27169/
[03:33] <MegaMasterX> woah hold on
[03:33] <MegaMasterX> its cut off
[03:33] <CVirus> its okay
[03:34] <VanessaE> has the display driver even been set for 'nvidia'?  or is it still 'nv'?
[03:35] <MegaMasterX> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27170/
[03:35] <MegaMasterX> Geez still cut off >.>
[03:35] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:35] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:35] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: I dont need it any longer
[03:35] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: issue that command
[03:36] <MegaMasterX> Error...pastebin-ning it
[03:36] <MegaMasterX> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27171/
[03:36] <MegaMasterX> Oh duh, that had the last command in it >.<
[03:36] <VanessaE> grep -i "nv" /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin the resutl
[03:37] <MegaMasterX> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27172/
[03:37] <VanessaE> there you go
[03:37] <CVirus> done
[03:37] <MegaMasterX> is that all?
[03:38] <VanessaE> line 2 should have read:  Driver "nvidia"
[03:38] <VanessaE> that's the problem.
[03:38] <MegaMasterX> oh.....
[03:38] <MegaMasterX> there are 2 drivers, I noticed
[03:38] <VanessaE> prolly vesa or vga?
[03:38] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:39] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: search for that line
[03:39] <CVirus> Driver          "nv"
[03:39] <CVirus> and change it too
[03:39] <CVirus> to*
[03:39] <MegaMasterX> Jeez, so many errors....
[03:39] <CVirus> Driver          "nvidia"
[03:39] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: its okay
[03:39] <MegaMasterX> It couldn't open it.
[03:39] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: dont paste them
[03:39] <CVirus> grr
[03:39] <MegaMasterX> Cannot talk to klauncher?
[03:40] <MegaMasterX> I'm just gonna browse to it.
[03:40] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: you need root access
[03:40] <CVirus> I mean ..
[03:40] <MegaMasterX> I already entered in the password.
[03:40] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: you cant edit it as a normal user
[03:40] <VanessaE> (I'd have just used nano :)
[03:40] <CVirus> VanessaE: he's a newbie
[03:40] <VanessaE> right
[03:40] <VanessaE> better he should use kate or so
[03:40] <MegaMasterX> Yea....... I'm sorry
[03:40] <VanessaE> don't be
[03:40] <VanessaE> we all were n00bs once
[03:40] <RagePrblm> I still am!
[03:41] <CVirus> VanessaE: I beleive I'm still one of them
[03:41] <VanessaE> heh
[03:41] <CVirus> havent reached my goal yet :-)
[03:41] <MegaMasterX> Haha, i opened it in kate.
[03:41] <MegaMasterX> Thank you Konqueror <3
[03:41] <CVirus> that makes me still a n00b
[03:41] <VanessaE> dah
[03:41] <VanessaE> what's your goal, dare I ask?
[03:42] <MegaMasterX> My goal?>
[03:42] <VanessaE> CVirus's
[03:42] <MegaMasterX> oh
[03:42] <CVirus> VanessaE: being a Gentoo Developer
[03:42] <CVirus> :-)
[03:42] <VanessaE> oo
[03:42] <MegaMasterX> :O!
[03:42] <VanessaE> ambitious!
[03:42] <MegaMasterX> what line do I need to search for, again?
[03:42] <CVirus> somehow
[03:42] <VanessaE> well go for it by all means :)
[03:42] <VanessaE> Mega: look for  Driver
[03:42] <CVirus> Driver          "nv"
[03:42] <CVirus> change it to
[03:42] <MegaMasterX> and delete it?
[03:42] <CVirus> Driver          "nvidia"
[03:42] <VanessaE> change nv -->  nvidia
[03:43] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:43] <VanessaE> be sure you write the line just as CVirus says
[03:43] <MegaMasterX> okay. I gotta give myself write access ._.
[03:43] <MegaMasterX> Gah.
[03:43] <VanessaE> you gotta be root (sudo/kdesu)
[03:43] <CVirus> VanessaE: one way or another .. Kubuntu isnt my main distro ... I use Gentoo on my desktop and Kubuntu on my laptop
[03:43] <MegaMasterX> Aww!
[03:44] <MegaMasterX> time to log off.
[03:44] <CVirus> wait
[03:44] <MegaMasterX> ?
[03:44] <MegaMasterX> Isn't there another way/
[03:44] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: did you edit it ?
[03:44] <CVirus> yes there is
[03:44] <MegaMasterX> yes
[03:44] <MegaMasterX> It won't let me save it
[03:44] <VanessaE> CV: I used to use gentoo, worked pretty good but I got tired of the constant building (not fun on an 800 MHz P3)... now with this fast box I have, I might try it again sometime
[03:44] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:45] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:45] <MegaMasterX> uhmmmmm
[03:45] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: edit it
[03:45] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:45] <MegaMasterX> I'll try to find my way around it
[03:45] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: then press Ctrl X
[03:45] <VanessaE> Mega: don't try to use your mouse, btw :)
[03:45] <OOD> it's cli edit, usefull when you dont have  a gui to start kate with
[03:45] <VanessaE> all keyboard controls here.
[03:45] <MegaMasterX> I thought so.
[03:46] <omar> Hi guys, I need some help , I am mounting a disk like this "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /media/hd4" but I would like to give it more permissions in order to erase and move, there, is there an extra command that I can add, please
[03:46] <MegaMasterX> And to save?
[03:46] <OOD> CTR+O
[03:46] <VanessaE> Mega: ctrl-X
[03:46] <MegaMasterX> ok
[03:46] <MegaMasterX> done.
[03:46] <OOD> CTRL+X quits the program ;)
[03:46] <VanessaE> OOD: it also savesw
[03:46] <CVirus> OOD: and prompts you to save
[03:47] <VanessaE> in the case of omar's issue, wouldn't a chmod to mount point work for him?
[03:47] <MegaMasterX> whats that command to redo the......g something
[03:47] <MegaMasterX> grep, thats it
[03:47] <OOD> CVirus: ah. it does
[03:47] <CVirus> VanessaE: nope
[03:47] <VanessaE> damn
[03:47] <CVirus> omar: mount by default uses the -w argument
[03:47] <VanessaE> sounds like the issue I used to have with memory cards, always wanted root.
[03:47] <CVirus> read/write access
[03:48] <driz> does anyone know how to get the adobe reader which lets you fill out PDF forms?
[03:48] <CVirus> omar: so you could read/write on the disk with sudo
[03:48] <omar> CVIrus instead of -t ?
[03:48] <VanessaE> Mega: you have to restart X after editing that file.  But be sure you did it right!
[03:48] <RagePrblm> Does divx/xvid come installed with kubuntu as default?
[03:48] <MegaMasterX> Got it
[03:48] <CVirus> omar: use the same exact command you pasted
[03:48] <omar> CVIrus whats the command
[03:48] <CVirus> omar: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /media/hd4
[03:48] <omar> CVIrus ok, and then
[03:49] <CVirus> omar: incase you want to move things .. just use sudo mv
[03:49] <CVirus> omar: or even kdesu konqueror
[03:49] <omar> CVIrus mm, but i would like to munt it with all permisions, can I?
[03:50] <CVirus> omar: I said its already mounted with read/write permissions ... but for super user .. not normal users
[03:50] <CVirus> megamasterx: glxinfo | grep render
[03:50] <MegaMasterX> Ok
[03:50] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: come on n00b :-p
[03:50] <VanessaE> mega: did you see the "nVidia" logo and white screen?
[03:50] <MegaMasterX> No........
[03:50] <omar> CVIrus than's man, but I have another quest
[03:50] <CVirus> damn
[03:50] <VanessaE> dammit
[03:50] <MegaMasterX> OMG!
[03:50] <steven__> Hi. I'm new in here so if i gonna do somthing wrong, tell me please.
[03:51] <VanessaE> ???
[03:51] <omar> CVIrus I would like to start kubuntu with that disk mounted
[03:51] <MegaMasterX> no errors!
[03:51] <omar> CVIrus automaticly you know
[03:51] <VanessaE> good
[03:51] <VanessaE> glxin fo | grep Rendering
[03:51] <VanessaE> gah!
[03:51] <VanessaE> glxinfo | grep Rendering
[03:51] <MegaMasterX> Oh awesome!
[03:51] <VanessaE> (with a capital R
[03:51] <MegaMasterX> The game works
[03:51] <campbch> when someone's not busy, i'm having incredible problems installing packages that would allow me to compile things
[03:51] <CVirus> omar: you need to edit your fstab
[03:51] <VanessaE> Please tell it is says "yes"
[03:51] <VanessaE> s/it/me
[03:51] <omar> it's that a file
[03:51] <omar> where ir is
[03:51] <VanessaE> (oh I give up, I can't type!)
[03:51] <CVirus> omar: add this line at the end of your /ets/fstab
[03:51] <MegaMasterX> VanessaE: It datn't say anything....
[03:52] <sam_> could someone translate this for me? : http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/topic/4213
[03:52] <steven__> I have a strange problem. I want to se the streamed news from oour public service television station
[03:52] <VanessaE> oops
[03:52] <VanessaE> lowercase it
[03:52] <MegaMasterX> oh
[03:52] <MegaMasterX> It says yes
[03:52] <CVirus> omar: /dev/hda4       /media/hda4     vfat    rw              0       0
[03:52] <MegaMasterX> <3 Yay
[03:52] <VanessaE> excellent
[03:52] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: congratulations
[03:52] <MegaMasterX> So that's all I need to do?
[03:53] <MegaMasterX> I gotta hang around this place more to learn more stuff!
[03:53] <steven__> I use the URL mms://WMSC.dr.dk/storage/Auto/ODPNyheder/tva/tva210020061017.wmv?WMContentBitrate=280000 but it just ignores my bitrate setting and streaming in a lot higher bitrate. What is wrong here?
[03:53] <VanessaE> best place for him to add that chmod 1666 /dev/nvidia*  line..../etc/init.d/bootmisc  perhaps?
[03:53] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: glxgears -printfps ... and see how many frames per second you'll get
[03:53] <omar> CVIrus is that it? , thanks buddy I will try and let you know
[03:54] <CVirus> omar: no problem
[03:54] <campbch> i need to compile and install two things, 1) my graphics drivers so that i can use widescreen resolutions, and 2) lcc for a class. I'm having problems getting packages that will allow me to build these files from adept
[03:54] <CVirus> VanessaE: you think he really needs it ?
[03:54] <CVirus> MegaMasterX: how about you reboot and see if the game still runs or not
[03:54] <VanessaE> CVirus: in my case, it was necessary
[03:54] <MegaMasterX> CVirus: It runs 3 times smoother
[03:54] <MegaMasterX> without rebooting X
[03:54] <VanessaE> for some reason those two device entries don't retain their perms (udev issue I guess)
[03:55] <CVirus> yeah
[03:55] <steven__> I use the URL mms://WMSC.dr.dk/storage/Auto/ODPNyheder/tva/tva210020061017.wmv?WMContentBitrate=280000 but it just ignores my bitrate setting and streaming in a lot higher bitrate. What is wrong here?
[03:55] <campbch> what should i do?
[03:55] <VanessaE> 1666 is probably technically insecure, but he's prolly the only user so it doesn't much matter
[03:55] <steven__> Is someone able to help me?
[03:56] <VanessaE> that's up to the website/server you're getting your stream from, steven
[03:56] <CVirus> !915resolution
[03:56] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modify tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386)
[03:56] <CVirus> campbch: an intel card ?
[03:56] <campbch> yep
[03:56] <campbch> i have the driver
[03:57] <campbch> i just cant build anything
[03:57] <CVirus> campbch: why would you want to compile it ?
[03:57] <campbch> because i need to
[03:57] <campbch> to use it
[03:57] <CVirus> campbch: why dont you use the .debs ?
[03:57] <campbch> intel doesnt distribute .debs
[03:57] <campbch> ?
[03:57] <campbch> i'm fairly sure it's just .tar.gz down the line
[03:57] <campbch> i've been there twice
[03:57] <steven__> Vanessa It isn't because of a malformed url?
[03:57] <CVirus> campbch: glxinfo | grep -i render
[03:58] <CVirus> campbch: what intel card exactly ?
[03:58] <VanessaE> steven: it could be, but if the server you're streaming from doesn't like 280000 as a bitrate, it might step up or down instead
[03:58] <campbch> 915 gm/gms 910 gm somethingorother it's in that family
[03:58] <CVirus> campbch: you dont need the driver from the manafacture ... there is a kernel module already
[03:58] <steven__> VanessaE > it sems to function probably under windows.
[03:59] <campbch> ooookkkaayyyy then why aren't more resolutions available?
[03:59] <VanessaE> what app are you streaming with?
[03:59] <CVirus> campbch: lsmod | grep -i 91
[03:59] <steven__> VanessaE Mplayer
[03:59] <VanessaE> hm
[03:59] <campbch> what is it supposed to say/
[03:59] <campbch> ?
[03:59] <VanessaE> I can only guess it's an mplayer bug - tried it with xine also?
[03:59] <VanessaE> or...
[03:59] <campbch> it says i915, that sounds like my version
[03:59] <steven__> VanessaE and i've also tried Kaffeine
[03:59] <VanessaE> put the URL in quotes
[04:00] <CVirus> campbch: give me the lines
[04:00] <Ashex> !printer > Ash-Fox
[04:00] <Ashex> er
[04:00] <Ashex> !printer > Ashex
[04:00] <campbch> /t cvirus
[04:00] <campbch> i915                   20608  1
[04:00] <campbch> drm                    73236  2 i915
[04:00] <campbch> tc1100_wmi              6916  0
[04:00] <campbch> ouch
[04:00] <campbch> sorry
[04:00] <campbch> thought that would pm
[04:00] <steven__> VanessaE like "mms://WMSC.dr.dk/storage/Auto/ODPNyheder/tva/tva210020061017.wmv?WMContentBitrate=280000" ?
[04:00] <Zappix> Hey is it possible to choose from Windows and Kubuntu WITHOUT using GRUB?
[04:00] <CVirus> campbch: glxifno | grep render
[04:00] <VanessaE> yeah
[04:00] <CVirus> campbch: glxifno | grep -i render
[04:00] <flaccid> thank you for the dvds, shipit
[04:01] <campbch> command not found
[04:01] <CVirus> Zappix: nope ... you need a boot loader ... either lilo or grub
[04:01] <CVirus> campbch: glxinfo | grep -i render
[04:01] <Zappix> oh ;;
[04:01] <CVirus> campbch: my typo
[04:01] <OOD> you can even use the windows boot.ini
[04:01] <CVirus> OOD: are you sure about that ?
[04:01] <Zappix> My 74GB HDD (with Windows and Kubuntu) is acting up
[04:01] <Zappix> (and I'm missing GRUB)
[04:01] <OOD> yeah its possible, but it's a lot of work for nothing really
[04:01] <campbch> direct rendering: Yes
[04:01] <campbch> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 20050225
[04:01] <Zappix> Whenever I go to boot, it will restart
[04:02] <campbch> that means that i already have it installed?
[04:02] <Zappix> so I have to use a 1.9GB HDD right now -.-'
[04:02] <CVirus> campbch: yes
[04:02] <CVirus> campbch: now
[04:02] <campbch> good to know :D
[04:02] <steven__> VanessaE I'll try Xine. I now remembered that i allready tried the quotething with no result
[04:02] <CVirus> campbch: and its functioning properly by the way
[04:02] <CVirus> campbch: now
[04:02] <CVirus> campbch: how are you trying to change your resolution ?
[04:02] <campbch> ill have to look up how to grep, looks useful
[04:02] <campbch> yes, i need it to reflect widescreen
[04:02] <campbch> everything looks stretchy right now :(
[04:03] <campbch> 1280x800, i believe
[04:03] <RagePrblm> I need to run a command ./install.sh but its giving me permission denied errors-  can anyone tell me the right command line to put in thatll give it root access
[04:03] <CVirus> campbch: how are you trying to change your resolution ?
[04:03] <campbch> system settings
[04:03] <VanessaE> Rage: what program are you installing?
[04:03] <campbch> display
[04:03] <RagePrblm> divx codecs
[04:04] <VanessaE> sudo sh ./install.sh
[04:04] <campbch> ooh
[04:04] <RagePrblm> thank you! I forgotto put sh after sudo
[04:04] <campbch> why does it say this? graphics card i810, driver i810
[04:04] <campbch> when i'm a 915?
[04:04] <CVirus> campbch: this is totally correct .. dont worry
[04:05] <campbch> either way, my only choice is 1024 x 768
[04:05] <campbch> alright
[04:05] <Zappix> D:
[04:05] <CVirus> campbch: have you tried pressing the "Adminster mode" button ?
[04:05] <campbch> only orieswitch tois normal, only screen is...the primary, and only screen size is 104x768...ntation
[04:06] <campbch> i was there once, to begin with
[04:06] <campbch> it would still show tick marks on the bar at available resolutions if i were in regular user mode
[04:07] <CVirus> campbch: same here .. LOL
[04:07] <campbch> nothing is happening, i lost visuals
[04:07] <VanessaE> steven: any luck?
[04:07] <campbch> what do you mean?
[04:07] <CVirus> campbch: gimme a sec
[04:07] <CVirus> campbch: I cant change my resolution too
[04:07] <campbch> well
[04:07] <campbch> that makes sense :o
[04:07] <CVirus> campbch: but i'm not using a wide screen
[04:07] <VanessaE> can't change with ctrl+alt+plus, by chance? :)
[04:08] <campbch> [04:08] <campbch> gives me boring equality signs
[04:08] <steven__> VanessaE I'm in the progress of installing Xine right now.
[04:08] <VanessaE> steven: ok
[04:08] <VanessaE> camp: was talking to CVirus, and that's the keypad plus, on the right.
[04:08] <steven__> VanessaE i'll tell you a soon as possible
[04:09] <VanessaE> (I was curious if he had run into the same bug my LjL and husband both ran into)
[04:09] <CVirus> VanessaE: not working too
[04:09] <VanessaE> eh, s/my\ LjL\ and/LjL\ and\ my/
[04:10] <CVirus> campbch: this is what you need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver?highlight=%28915%29#head-6fcd801a3621b9769f7bf9f48fa4e3ad6e256654
[04:10] <LjL> VanessaE: ah, by the way, go into system settings, regional, and keyboard layout... does it show any layouts at all?
[04:10] <VanessaE> lemme look
[04:10] <VanessaE> well it sorta does
[04:11] <campbch> i had a feeling i810 was wrong :p
[04:11] <CVirus> campbch: its not
[04:11] <VanessaE> one layout available for the keyboard I use, f.ex
[04:11] <campbch> but this says i need i915
[04:11] <VanessaE> lots of countries on the left also.
[04:11] <campbch> thats more a philosophical question, is it wrong if it works
[04:11] <campbch> it works, it works quite well, but one works better than the other
[04:11] <LjL> VanessaE: yes, that sounds like the way it should be -- though not the way it is for me and for another user
[04:11] <VanessaE> odd
[04:12] <LjL> VanessaE: have you upgraded your packages in the last few days?
[04:12] <VanessaE> well this is a dapper box I'm on...did you want me to check the edgy box then?
[04:12] <CVirus> campbch: nuthing is wrong .. one of them is the name of the card and the other is the chipset itself
[04:12] <steven__> VanessaE No luck. But now i can se it plays at 879 Kbit/s
[04:12] <VanessaE> Steven: hrm..  I don't know what else to try off the top of my head
[04:12] <CVirus> campbch: i810 is the card and i915 is the chipset
[04:12] <RagePrblm> Anyone know an easy way to install xvid codecs
[04:13] <VanessaE> LjL: that said, yes the edgy box has been upgraded daily.
[04:13] <kontiki> Hi - Can I run Skype under Dapper?  They have a .deb package, & say it is for Debian & ubuntu. That deb pkg can be downloaded by itself, but they also have an apt repository, & it says for "stable". I'm told Debian stable sw libraries are differnt from the libs in Dapper, & that sw won't run on Dapper.  So, is there a way to use Skype under Dapper?
[04:13] <VanessaE> seen at least one X update (maybe 2?) in the last week
[04:13] <LjL> oh well. i guess i'm not filing a bug then... to airy. i'm going to bed instead =)
[04:13] <CVirus> !skype
[04:13] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:13] <LjL> s/to/too/
[04:13] <CVirus> kontiki: ^
[04:13] <steven__> VanessaE ok but thank for the try anyway. Maybe i have a more simple problem you can help me solve then?
[04:13] <VanessaE> no fix though...so we did a workaround, assigned shift-alt-KPPlus/Minus to run `xvidtune -next/-prev` :)
[04:13] <kontiki> CVirus: thanks
[04:13] <CVirus> campbch: just read the link on how to change the resolution
[04:14] <RagePrblm> ?
[04:15] <steven__> VanessaE in the ubuntu handbook (on the net) it says that i am able to make a user a sudo user from within the user control panel but i cant find where i have to do this. Could you tell me?
[04:16] <campbch> it keeps saying it cant find package?
[04:16] <campbch> from konqueror it gives me a utility not in your path error
[04:17] <VanessaE> I have no clue how, never had to add anyone beyond myself (default) :)
[04:17] <VanessaE> normally, I'd use visudo from a terminal though
[04:17] <steven__> ok
[04:17] <VanessaE> if I needed to add a user
[04:17] <VanessaE> but you gotta know the proper syntax of the config file it presents to you)
[04:18] <campbch> ...
[04:18] <CVirus> gotta get some sleep
[04:18] <VanessaE> (when I said never, I meant never through KDE)
[04:18] <VanessaE> night CV
[04:18] <campbch> i cant get it to let me install 915resolutions
[04:18] <CVirus> VanessaE: please to meet you anyway :)
[04:18] <VanessaE> and you :)
[04:18] <steven__> VanessaE sure i can put people in the sudoers file but i think there might be a graphical way to do it when the handbook state it that way. Anyway thank for your help
[04:19] <larson9999> steven__: in the user admin gui, you can go into administer mode and then modify him.  then there is a box that says secondary groups.  that'll do it
[04:20] <campbch> ok, i've gone as far as to define it explicitly in the command
[04:20] <campbch> what am i doing wrong?
[04:20] <steven__> Larson9999 And wich secondary group do i have to assign him then?
[04:21] <rooob> Hey guys im doing a dist-upgrade to edgy, but i get a error when installing an xorg package.. can anyone help me?  output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27175/
[04:21] <campbch> sudo apt-get install 915resolutions with the 915resolution_0.5-2_i386.deb file in my home directory says that it cannot find the file, when i use the directory name, ie sudo apt-get install /home/campbch/915resolution_0.5-2_i386.deb it does not work... what is going on?
[04:21] <rooob> what is the best channel to ask a edgy upgrade question?
[04:22] <larson9999> steven__: on my machine i'm in admin and i can sudo but there is a sudo group that i'm not in.  i think you can add sudo to someone and that will do it too.
[04:22] <VanessaE> here, rooob
[04:22] <VanessaE> (but bear in mind edgy is still in development)
[04:22] <rooob> thanks VanessaE...  yep im v aware of that :)
[04:22] <larson9999> steven__: not really my strong point.  i just move people around until things work :)  probably not the best approach for the security minded person.
[04:23] <rooob> i think i can nail this package problem tho
[04:23] <steven__> larson9999:  I've tried that with no luck. I however got the sudoabillity by putting him into the adm / administrator group but is that the way i am intended to do it?
[04:23] <larson9999> VanessaE: most of the programs i run are still in dev :)
[04:23] <VanessaE> heh
[04:23] <steven__> larson9999:  yep ;-)
[04:24] <campbch> *groan*
[04:24] <larson9999> steven__: i really don't know.  just knew where in the gui you modified the groups
[04:24] <campbch> my screen. is stretchy. i need. to fix it. absolutely EVERYTHING i do is stopping me in some manner! why is it telling me that it cannot find the package when i have defined the name and the path of the package in every way i know how?
[04:25] <campbch> it's late, i want to fix at least SOMETHING before i hit the sack
[04:25] <steven__> larson9999:  hmmm strange. I would have expected that there was a tick saying make the user sudo but there really isn't
[04:25] <larson9999> campbch: did you do an 'apt-cache search package_name' ?
[04:25] <steven__> larson9999: Anyways thank you
[04:25] <VanessaE> well for starters, if you're trying to install a deb you downaloded yourself, use dpkg
[04:25] <VanessaE> :)
[04:25] <larson9999> steven__: well, sudo is in the list of groups.  i would think that adding that group would do it
[04:26] <VanessaE> dpkg -i 915resolution_0.5-2_i386.deb
[04:26] <campbch> it still cant find the package
[04:26] <steven__> larson9999: No i tried that yesterday with no luck
[04:26] <campbch> inc.... 915resolution_0.5-2_i386.deb
[04:26] <VanessaE> use the full path to the file, and be sure you sudo of course
[04:26] <campbch> no.
[04:26] <larson9999> steven__: maybe admin is the right way.
[04:27] <steven__> larson9999:  ok. Anyway. Thank you
[04:27] <sam_> is it possible to search for an uninstalled file with apt ?
[04:27] <VanessaE> apt-cache search <keyword>
[04:27] <steven__> sam_:  What do you mean?
[04:28] <sam_> trying to work out what package has network-admin on edgy
[04:28] <larson9999> sam_ yeah.  it searches through things that are in the repository whether they're installed or not.
[04:28] <sam_> i dont have that file
[04:28] <campbch> ok,
[04:28] <campbch> campbch@Stormbreaker:~$ sudo apt-cache search /home/campbch/915resolution.deb
[04:28] <campbch> campbch@Stormbreaker:~$ sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[04:28] <campbch> Reading package lists... Done
[04:28] <campbch> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:28] <campbch> E: Couldn't find package 915resolution
[04:28] <VanessaE> camp: what exactly do you get for an error when you use dpkg?
[04:28] <larson9999> !packages
[04:28] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:28] <campbch> dpkg? it didnt say i needed to do that with dapper
[04:28] <VanessaE> sudo dpkg -i /home/campbch/915resolution_0.5-2_i386.deb
[04:28] <campbch> there were like 5 methods, and dapper said just to use sudo apt-get install etc
[04:29] <VanessaE> all debian distros need that if you download your own package from someplace./
[04:29] <larson9999> campbch you need dpkg if you're not installing something from one of the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:30] <rooob> Does anyone have a suggestion as to what the problem with this is?
[04:30] <rooob> Preparing to replace x11-common 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (using .../x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb) ...
[04:30] <rooob> Unpacking replacement x11-common ...
[04:30] <rooob> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[04:30] <rooob>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man5/Xsession.5.gz', which is also in package xinit
[04:30] <rooob> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[04:30] <VanessaE> ack!
[04:30] <VanessaE> !pastebin
[04:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:30] <larson9999> campbch maybe that tutorial earlier said something like 'add repositories' so now it thinks it should be in one of your repositories
[04:30] <rooob> sorry, wont do it again
[04:30] <VanessaE> s'ok
[04:31] <VanessaE> (that said, if you update and dist-upgrade again, it might fix that issue)
[04:31] <rooob> no it does not
[04:31] <rooob> ive tried
[04:31] <VanessaE> hrm
[04:31] <rooob> and -f dist-upgrade
[04:32] <rooob> does not work
[04:32] <VanessaE> I think -f only works with install
[04:32] <rooob> ok.. well -f install does not help
[04:32] <rooob> they all trip on this xorg package
[04:33] <VanessaE> what I would do at this point then is uninstall x11-common and xinit, then do a full upgrade.
[04:33] <rooob> good suggestion thanks
[04:33] <VanessaE> (and re-install x11-common if necessary)
[04:33] <rooob> apt-get uninstall?
[04:33] <VanessaE> apt-get remove <package>
[04:33] <NotWired> is it possible to install the server version from the liveCD?
[04:34] <dude> how do i configre my fstb
[04:34] <VanessaE> !fstab
[04:34] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[04:34] <Hawkwind> NotWired: AFAIK no.  You have to download the server edition seperately if you want it
[04:35] <VanessaE> well, bbl.  Time to pick up my husband.
[04:35] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind
[04:35] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Mornin sir!
[04:35] <rooob> nope.. remove does not work.. more errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27177/
[04:35] <Jucato> evenin' to you, sir :)
[04:35] <NotWired> okay thanks Hawkwind
[04:35] <larson9999> VanessaE: my wife says i picked her up once and it's been the other way around ever since
[04:35] <dude> jucato: hello
[04:35] <campbch> ok, it installed, but my widescreen resolution is not on the list
[04:35] <Jucato> hi dude :)
[04:36] <campbch> i believe it is 1280 x 800
[04:36] <cpk2> is there a simple way to do batch encoding? (convert 15 or so avi to mpeg2 at a time)
[04:36] <campbch> but i am not 100% sure, how can i check?
[04:36] <dude> juacato: what is the command     in editing fstab sudo nano????
[04:36] <Hawkwind> dude: sudo vi /etc/fstab or whatever editor you want to use
[04:36] <cpk2> looks like i could do a script with avidemux, but command line avidemux seems slightly complicated =\
[04:36] <Jucato> dude: "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[04:36] <rooob> cpk2 there is an awesome app called ffmpeg you can convert from 1 vid to any other really easily.
[04:37] <Jucato> or "kdesu kate /etc/fstab" if you want
[04:37] <rooob> and the command line is really easy
[04:37] <Jucato> rooob: I think cpk2 was looking for a way to "bacth encode" them
[04:37] <Jucato> cpk2: script? :P
[04:37] <sam__> what do i use to configure a usb wireless card that relies on ndiswrapper under edgy ?
[04:37] <rooob> Jucato: yes.. ffmpeg + a sh file will make a good solution
[04:38] <cpk2> Jucato: but if command line ffmpeg is easy then that will be a good solution, avidemux has too many options that it could go wrong all over the place
[04:38] <driz> hey guys i need help trying to install this file i just extracted it was a tar.gz but now i don't know how to install it
[04:39] <Jucato> cpk2: well, ffmpeg also has lots of command line options that you could go wrong all over the place. hehehe
[04:40] <cpk2> well it appears that i cant even find where avidemux put the one mpeg i tried encoding =P
[04:40] <cpk2> *if* it even made it
[04:40] <cpk2> nm i found it
[04:42] <Zaire_Away> damnit shipit is down again
[04:42] <Vuen> shipit is down?
[04:42] <Zaire> yeps
[04:43] <Vuen> mmm luckily i ordered cds this afternoon
[04:43] <holocaustozero> holitas!!!!!
[04:43] <holocaustozero> alguien chilenensis
[04:43] <Vuen> the reason i got into linux is because last year someone put a stack of ubuntu breezy cds in the physics society room
[04:43] <Vuen> so i figure i'd return the favor
[04:43] <Jucato> hm.. is that spanish or brazilian?
[04:43] <Vuen> only with kubuntu instead of ubuntu (and dapper obviously)
[04:44] <Zaire> lol
[04:44] <Zaire> I got into linux cause I hate winblows lol
[04:44] <Vuen> heh
[04:44] <Jucato> I got into Linux because of Tux (the penguin)
[04:44] <Vuen> well, i turned into a fascist linux zealot because i hate winblows
[04:44] <Jucato> lol j/k :)
[04:44] <Vuen> and because vista scares me
[04:45] <Vuen> but i got into linux before i hated windows :)
[04:45] <driz> Zaire: i say that too but it sucks when you don't know how to install something or have some random problems
[04:45] <driz> like now
[04:45] <driz> for me
[04:45] <Vuen> afk watching heroes
[04:45] <Zaire> if I wanted to have a security hole the size of a semi I would build a fence around my yard and leave a big gaping hole in it
[04:46] <ryan> anyone having adept problems now - repo's not available?
[04:46] <Zaire> yea linux can be tricky
[04:46] <Zaire> I don't use adept so don't know lol
[04:46] <ryan> apt get confuses me
[04:46] <holocaustozero> i use linux for my stydies
[04:47] <ryan> command lines make me sleepy
[04:47] <Zaire> its not really that hard like just use apt-get install <packagename>
[04:47] <holocaustozero> that's very easy
[04:48] <ryan> how do you get a list of package names?
[04:50] <argonel> apt-cache pkgnames
[04:50] <Zaire> ummm wouldn't know I just go off the top of my head on what packages I want like say I want firefox I just do sudo apt-get install firefox ....if I don't know I ask lol
[04:50] <holocaustozero> first edit /etc/apt/ Vi source.list
[04:50] <holocaustozero> then apt-get update
[04:50] <holocaustozero> and you have a lot of adress where you can download anything!!!!!!
[04:50] <holocaustozero> sorry for my english
[04:50] <holocaustozero> jajajajaja
[04:50] <campbch> ok, it says to change my resolution i need to have 915resolution 1280 800 32 in teh startup script, which file is that?
[04:51] <ryan> i installed 915 resolution on my dell e1405
[04:51] <campbch> teh was completely unintentional
[04:51] <ryan> its called "915 resolution"
[04:52] <campbch> the program is called 915resolution
[04:52] <campbch> i just installed it i would know >;i
[04:52] <campbch> my GOD this is like pulling teeth
[04:52] <campbch> where do i put the command in the startup script?
[04:52] <larson9999> campbch: is it one of those deals where the package installs it and modifies whatever it needs to so that if you restartx you're good to go?
[04:53] <campbch> ill try restarting, but the readme says it needs to run before x
[04:53] <campbch> ill brb
[04:53] <ryan> ?
[04:53] <argonel> sounds like you're following non-debian instructions
[04:53] <ryan> yeah, mine was really easy.... installed, restarted x, boom... pretty screen
[04:53] <larson9999> argonel: that's kinda what i was thinking but since i've never done what he's doing i wasn't sure
[04:54] <larson9999> deb is nice that way but it's kinda hard sometimes to find the doc that says, "the rest of the world does it a different way.  here's how we do it in deb land."
[04:54] <argonel> nor have i, but i usually find a way around editing the 'startup script' (lucky you for having just one)
[04:55] <larson9999> argonel: i think that's half the problem that newbies have.  we need a big matrix that shows how the different distros do the same thing
[04:56] <campbch> it didn't work
[04:56] <campbch> my titlebar looks like blue rasberry flavored taffy.
[04:56] <argonel> larson9999: that would be a very large matrix
[04:56] <argonel> sounds yummy
[04:56] <campbch> it doesnt look it
[04:57] <ryan> campbch: where did you download the 915 res file from?
[04:57] <campbch> *sigh*
[04:57] <argonel> you know what they say.. never eat blue food
[04:57] <larson9999> argonel: yeah.  i think that unofficial ubuntu guide is a pretty nice newbie doc
[04:57] <campbch> it was in a .deb package, from the link that cvirus gave me
[04:57] <campbch> before he left
[04:57] <campbch> its from the ubuntu web page
[04:57] <campbch> so it should be working
[04:58] <campbch> the official readme says that it needs to be in a boot script
[04:58] <campbch> but i dont know where that boot script is
[04:58] <campbch> :o
[04:58] <campbch> how odd?
[04:58] <campbch> it should be in ... ... drumroll... /boot
[04:58] <campbch> but its not
[04:58] <ryan> thats weird, i got mine from debian, the package script ran itself and put everything where it needs to be
[04:58] <campbch> i don't see why this isn't working...
[04:59] <argonel> campbch: read /usr/share/doc/915resolution/README.Debian
[04:59] <campbch> twitch twitch
[04:59] <ryan> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=915resolution
[04:59] <campbch> i went through hell
[04:59] <campbch> getting that package installed
[04:59] <campbch> can i install one over the other?
[04:59] <campbch> ok, the first one came from ubuntu, why am i installing a debian package now? and is it safe to overwrite?
[04:59] <ryan> yeah, just replace and files when prompted
[05:00] <larson9999> campbch: are you following this:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:00] <campbch> one sec.
[05:00] <campbch> im not getitng great connection speeds, but that's the university's wireless
[05:01] <ryan> are you using a dell?
[05:01] <larson9999> campbch: seems like pretty clear instructions in that doc
[05:01] <ryan> it sounds like a bad package
[05:02] <larson9999> campbch: from that doc you shouldn't have needed to download the package the way you did.  it should be in one of your repositories.
[05:02] <argonel> ubuntu is a subset of debian
[05:02] <rooob> how do i clean the upgrade list in dpkg?
[05:03] <manjunatha> i cant play mp3 and avi mpeg video files please help
[05:04] <Jucato> !mp3
[05:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:04] <Jucato> manjunatha: ^^^^
[05:04] <campbch> am i allowed to start screaming and throwing things?.... :'(
[05:04] <ryan> not in public
[05:04] <holocaustozero> open terminal and put apt-get install xmms
[05:04] <Jucato> campbch: probably in #kubuntu-offtopic? heheh
[05:04] <holocaustozero> and put apt-get install kmplayer
[05:04] <ryan> you should use the 915 package from adept or apt-get
[05:05] <Jucato> holocaustozero: and if he wants to use some other player? that really doesn't solve the problem :)
[05:05] <larson9999> campbch: find ' How to Correct the Graphics Resolution' in this doc and see if that helps http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  replace gedit with nano or vi or something
[05:06] <holocaustozero> sorry
[05:06] <ryan> campbch: start screaming
[05:06] <campbch> i found it, followed it...
[05:07] <Jucato> holocaustozero: no need to be sorry. xmms and kmplayer (actually mplayer would probably be better) are also solutions :)
[05:07] <campbch> for the love of god
[05:07] <larson9999> vlc is nice, too imho
[05:07] <campbch> This should add the option for that resolution to the "System>Preferences>Screen Resolution" tool.
[05:07] <campbch> If it works correctly then you can make the change permanent:
[05:07] <campbch> sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[05:07] <campbch> ok,
[05:07] <campbch> a) there is no such path of options
[05:08] <campbch> B) i dont have gedit
[05:08] <campbch> c) it did not add the resolution to my graphical resolution choose
[05:08] <campbch> r
[05:08] <campbch> d) wtf?
[05:08] <larson9999> campbch: take a chill pill.  i told you to replace gedit with vi or nano or whatever you want to edit it with
[05:08] <campbch> >;(
[05:08] <campbch> forgive me, it's been 2 hours
[05:09] <larson9999> campbch: yeah, we've all been there
[05:09] <larson9999> campbch: and go back from time to time :)
[05:09] <larson9999> is this one of your cards? Intel 82830M, 82845G, 82852GM, 82855GM, 82865G, and 82915G/GM
[05:10] <larson9999> campbch: take if from me though.  that guide is one of the best install docs for a distro i've ever seen
[05:10] <campbch> ill bookmark it
[05:10] <campbch> thanks :D ill brb, need to reboot
[05:11] <Jucato> Hobbsee!! :)
[05:11] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[05:11] <Jucato> petrol?
[05:13] <larson9999> gas
[05:14] <RagePrblm> Does anyone have that link for intalling binary ati drivers again?
[05:14] <RagePrblm> Its a complete howto
[05:14] <BonBonTheJon> !ati
[05:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <RagePrblm> Thank you very much
[05:14] <BonBonTheJon> RagePrblm: yup
[05:18] <Zamboulie> !k3b
[05:18] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[05:20] <larson9999> tried out ff 2.0 + wine + flash 9 today.  finally as fast and smooth as in windows.  or at least close enough i can't tell a difference
[05:20] <larson9999> about a week before adobe puts out a pre release of flash for linux :)
[05:26] <Hawkwind> larson9999: There won't be any new flash for Linux until after the first of the year
[05:26] <larson9999> Hawkwind: my sources say the pre release will be out this month
[05:27] <OOD> hawkwind: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/chatter.html
[05:27] <Jucato> Hawkwind: still awake? :)
[05:28] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yeppers
[05:28] <Jucato> heheh
[05:28] <Hawkwind> That flash won't happen this year.  I know a couple of the devs personally and they say there are no plans til atleast February
[05:29] <larson9999> Hawkwind: not even an alpha?
[05:30] <Hawkwind> larson9999: As I stated, nothing til after the first of the year
[05:30] <larson9999> Hawkwind: hehe
[05:32] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i joke that we'll get the 'wait until version 10' any day.  it was looking like that wouldn't happen.  maybe it will after all :)
[05:33] <maquina> hola
[05:33] <OOD> hi
[05:33] <maquina> zen2
[05:33] <Hawkwind> larson9999: We'll get version 9, sometime 1st quarter of 2007
[05:33] <maquina> ood tengo una pregunta
[05:34] <OOD> err.. i dont know spanish..
[05:34] <Jucato> !es
[05:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:34] <OOD> good call :P
[05:37] <larson9999> Hawkwind: that swiftfox made a pretty decent different on xubuntu machine.
[05:41] <nonaino> olaaaaaaaa
[05:41] <nonaino> alguien habla espaol
[05:41] <Jucato> !es
[05:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:42] <nonaino> Ju
[05:42] <unix_infidel> getting a lot of brazillian users too :)
[05:42] <nonaino> Jucato:  muxas gacias tiooooooooo
[05:42] <unix_infidel> Jucato: well, firefox already works well enough on windows.
[05:42] <unix_infidel> its just the memory footprint.
[05:43] <Jucato> yeah.
[05:43] <larson9999> Jucato: i found some similar projects for windows but i didn't try any
[05:44] <unix_infidel> Jucato: isnt swiftfox just a firefox build that's arch specific
[05:44] <unix_infidel> or does it contain some about:config hacks too?
[05:44] <Jucato> ah. well I was going after "consistency", like if I'm going to use X browser on Linux, I might as well use it on XP :P
[05:45] <larson9999> Jucato: yeah, i try to do that too.
[05:45] <Jucato> unix_infidel: afaik, yes. I'm not sure if they have other hacks. I won't be surprised if there are :)
[05:46] <unix_infidel> Jucato: i cant find anything on the website.
[05:46] <larson9999> unix_infidel: no, it's got a different logo, too :)
[05:46] <unix_infidel> larson9999: mleh :P
[05:46] <Jucato> probably they don't have. but wouldn't it be nice to also have an optimized build for XP :)
[05:47] <unix_infidel> Jucato: how is it possible to build arch specific builds on winxp.
[05:47] <larson9999> unix_infidel: last night i called it a version of firefox and hawkwind said, "err, not it's not."
[05:47] <Jucato> unix_infidel: heh I was just wondering :)
[05:47] <unix_infidel> Jucato: the code is pretty different iirc.
[05:48] <Jucato> of course it would be :)
[05:48] <Jucato> well, I can dream can't I :)
[05:49] <Hawkwind> swiftfox is not different from firefox, if that's what you're talking about
[05:49] <Hawkwind> It's built from the same exact code, just optimized since it's built specifically for each arch of PC available
[05:50] <larson9999> Hawkwind: ok.  that's what i meant by calling it a version of ff.
[05:51] <unix_infidel> hmm, it looks like they just use the march=flag.
[05:51] <Hawkwind> Much more than that if you read their site
[05:51] <Dr_willis> or so they claim. :P
[05:52] <Dr_willis> how do you even benchmark how fast the browser is?
[05:52] <Jucato> stopwatch? lol
[05:52] <unix_infidel> well, from what i see, that's the only build flag that makes it measurably faster than regular swiftfox.
[05:53] <larson9999> Dr_willis: the best way is called the 'one one thousand, two one thousand' method
[05:53] <unix_infidel> sure they throw in some instrution set flags, but those are insignificant.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> larson9999,  i have a extension for firefox that times web sites load times.. but that can vary on the same site.. at different times dependng on the internet/what i am doing.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:54] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: why not just say, "I'm using fasterfox"
[05:54] <unix_infidel> :P
[05:54] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: They do a lot more than that.  Read the site
[05:54] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: i'm there.
[05:54] <Hawkwind> Fasterfox doesn't do 1/8th of what swiftfox does
[05:55] <Jucato> Hawkwind: what part of the swiftfox site?
[05:55] <larson9999> swiftfox is faster in loading and even surfing seems faster.  i really noticed a difference on my older machine running xubuntu
[05:55] <dude_> Dr_Willis: question, how do i find my downloaded application?
[05:55] <unix_infidel> Under optimizations that's basically all i see that's worth mentioning in the arguments (build flags)
[05:55] <Dr_willis> dude_,  what did you download?
[05:55] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I guess IceWeasel should be faster since it's slippery wet? :P
[05:55] <dude_> Dr_Willis: thunderbird
[05:55] <unix_infidel> dude_: if you used firefox it defaulted to ~/Desktop
[05:55] <Dr_willis> dude_,  and how did you 'download' it?
[05:55] <Hawkwind> I think it's in the changelog or something.  Might be Jason's blog.  I don't recall and got too many things to do than to search a site that I already know about and use the product as proof
[05:55] <dude_> adept
[05:56] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: nah, its in the build log.
[05:56] <unix_infidel> Sure its faster, but that's for most things, you can build vim 7 with s pecific gcc flag that makes it faster.
[05:56] <dude_> Dr_Willis: adept
[05:56] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: No.  It was a posting actually
[05:56] <Dr_willis> dude_,  so you mean to say you INSTALLED it.. with adept.. adept then downloaded and isntalled it. - there should be an icon.. but the icon may not be in the menus yet. if the menus dident refresh right
[05:56] <Hawkwind> Bahhhhhh whatever!
[05:56] <Demolition> me podias dar los canlaes de habla espaol
[05:56] <Demolition> por favor
[05:57] <larson9999> Hawkwind: well, you've never told me anything that wasn't true.  at least if you did, i wasn't smart enough to know :)
[05:57] <Demolition> alguien habla espaol
[05:57] <Dr_willis> I forget the command to force kde to refersh the menus.. or just logouback in
[05:57] <Jucato> !es
[05:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:57] <unix_infidel> !es > Demolition
[05:57] <dude_> Dr_Willis: yes
[05:57] <user___> hello everyone
[05:57] <user___> was wondering how i can get k3b from one pc to another with different os
[05:58] <dude_> Dr_Willis: tnx
[05:58] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Thanks.  Just don't like one person stating something they don't know anything about when someone else knows differently.  It gets old :)
[05:58] <Jucato> dude_, Dr_willis : "kbuildsycoca --incremental"
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Not sure why some programs when installed.. dont refresh the menus like they should.
[05:58] <unix_infidel> holy snAP!
[05:58] <unix_infidel> vmware can do gigabit and not use the crappy pcnet32 module :)
[05:58] <unix_infidel> w00t.
[05:59] <larson9999> Dr_willis: that's happens like mad in mandriva.  well up until 2006 anyway.
[05:59] <user___> any suggestions
[05:59] <dude_> Dr_Willis: can you suggest an email client
[05:59] <unix_infidel> anyone know of xen can do the same?
[05:59] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I think that problem disappeared in Edgy
[05:59] <Jucato> dude_: KMail, which is already installed
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  edgy will cure cancer also i hear. :)
[05:59] <Jucato> lol
[05:59] <dude_> jucato: tnx
[05:59] <Dr_willis> dude_,  i check my email about once a month.. i use the various webmail services
[05:59] <Jucato> dude_: you can use KMail from Kontact.
[06:00] <dude_> k
[06:00] <Jucato> Kontact is something like MS Outlook. it's under the Office menu
[06:00] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: hah, hopefully you've got it all on a pop3 client :P
[06:00] <unix_infidel> that'd be tedious :p
[06:01] <dude_> jucato: thunderbird vs kmail?
[06:01] <rawrness> btw how can i get my yahoo  with kmail?
[06:01] <Jucato> hm... hard choice. but in the end I use KMail
[06:01] <rawrness> with*
[06:01] <Jucato> rawrness: freepops or yahoopops?
[06:01] <dude_> jucato: ok, kmail it is
[06:02] <dude_> tnx
[06:02] <Dr_willis> unix_infidel,  i only get about 3 real emails a month. :P
[06:02] <Jucato> dude_: lol. don't let me choose for you :)
[06:02] <rawrness> what do you mean ?
[06:02] <user___> anyone know where all the files for k3b would be on my drive?
[06:02] <Jucato> Dr_willis: you ain't a member of any Mailing List, or haven't submitted bug reports?
[06:02] <Jucato> user__: you can't just transfer k3b from one PC to another, specially if it's on a different OS
[06:03] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  not really. :)  and i finially got the faimly to STOP sending me all these lame jokes/gags/funny things...
[06:03] <Jucato> rawrness: two programs that would let you direct Yahoo Mail to your e-mailclient
[06:03] <user___> ok but you see i mainly use xandros but i cant seem to figure out how to get k3b on xandros....and with kubuntu its here
[06:03] <rawrness> !yahoo
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <rawrness> !yahoomail
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoomail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <Jucato> !yahoopops
[06:03] <rawrness> was worth a shot :P
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoopops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <Jucato> !freepops
[06:04] <ubotu> freepops: POP3 interface to several webmails. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.96-1 (dapper), package size 286 kB, installed size 1184 kB
[06:04] <rawrness> so i install that....
[06:04] <rawrness> then what
[06:04] <Jucato> er.. /me forgot... haven't used it that much :(
[06:04] <user___> anyone know of a way to get k3b on xandros
[06:04] <rawrness> I see
[06:04] <Jucato> user__: Xandros should have a K3b package of its own
[06:05] <Jucato> since it uses KDE
[06:05] <user___> could you please find it for me....i have tried and no luck so far
[06:05] <Dr_willis> user__,  read the xandros pages.. check their package manager.. its proberly fairly easy to isntall. check #xandros as well
[06:05] <Jucato> user__: I'm not familiar with how to install stuff on Xandros. have you tried asking for support from your distro's forums/IRC channel, etc?
[06:07] <Jucato> lol
[06:07] <argonel> double clicking on the printers icon in system settings crashes
[06:08] <rawrness> <- rembers that there is an all knowing guru called google
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Xandros the "lets force everyone to use bittorrent  to download our free version disrto!"
[06:09] <rawrness> fun
[06:09] <rawrness> sounds scary to me
[06:13] <tstafford> lol
[06:13] <Dr_willis> NOW i rember why i dont reccomend Xandros
[06:13] <tstafford> :)
[06:14] <Dr_willis> testing out Suse 10.1 at the moment.
[06:14] <Jucato> Dr_willis: used the respinned CD's?
[06:14] <tstafford> nice nice. kubuntu dapper
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  yea the remastered or whatever they just posted last week.
[06:15] <rawrness> thinks he will give other distros a chance.
[06:15] <argonel> edgy, not very old - trying to add printer returns "client-error-bad-request". any suggestions?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> I will say SUSE does look a lot nicer as it boots then Kubuntu does.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> I dont know who designed that boot messages/animation.. but its icky. I perfer just plain text messages to it.
[06:15] <tstafford> darn those attractive bootscreens :-/
[06:15] <Jucato> Dr_willis: lucky you. they posted that just barely a week after I finished downloading all 5 CD's... :(
[06:15] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  i got the dvd. :)
[06:15] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I don't have a DVD writer just yet :)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> My dvd burner started screwing up.. so i bought a new one last week.
[06:16] <rawrness> nice
[06:16] <Dr_willis> now if the price of DL disks would get reasonable
[06:16] <Dr_willis> DVD burner/DL 16x was like $40
[06:16] <rawrness> i wish a dvd-dl-rw was made
[06:16] <Jucato> DL?
[06:16] <rawrness> i would be happy ......
[06:17] <rawrness> dual layer
[06:17] <Jucato> Dr_willis: do you recommend I download (again...) the remastered CD's? or just use the older 10.1 CD's and just update (through hell)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  no idea what really changed on them
[06:17] <Dr_willis> if there were updates... id hope they had the updates where you could 'update' to them. :)
[06:18] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I think the YaST libxzymmmmm thingy was fixed?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  no idea.. been using suse 10.1 for 1 day now. :)
[06:18] <Jucato> lol :)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> #suse is a bit dead
[06:18] <Jucato> Dr_willis: maybe they moved to #opensuse? (just guessing) :P
[06:18] <tstafford> and the channel too
[06:18] <tstafford> ;)
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Just exploring the disrto.. they got some nice things.. but a lot of it is 'work in progress stuff'
[06:19] <Dr_willis> like their xgl and xen, and apparmour stuff..
[06:19] <avagant> Downloading 5 cd's for one os. Cha ya know what? uh uh.
[06:19] <rawrness> i have a 5 gig swap :P
[06:19] <Dr_willis> the docs sort of imply that ' heres a new feature. we are still improving it'
[06:19] <Jucato> avagant: do you know how many CD's Debian has? :)
[06:19] <Zaire> are they upgrading the launchpad or something?
[06:19] <Jucato> Dr_willis: considering that XGL and Xen are "beta" stuff...
[06:19] <larson9999> you don't have to dl 5 cds.  you can do just one.
[06:20] <avagant> I noticed it was probably alot. I'm glad I didn't make a sudden switch.
[06:20] <Zaire> debian has 15 cd's
[06:20] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  yep. but they mention the features as a main 'feature'
[06:20] <Zaire> or 2 dvd's
[06:20] <Jucato> avagant: 12 total I think. but of course, you don't need all of them. just as you don't need all 5 Suse CD's if you know which packages go where
[06:20] <tstafford> lol @ deb
[06:20] <Jucato> Dr_willis: a main "selling" feature
[06:20] <Jucato> s/12/15
[06:20] <Zaire> actually debian has 15
[06:20] <avagant> Yah I'm glad I stuck to Ubuntu.
[06:21] <avagant> I don't have the time, or the patience for that.
[06:21] <Zaire> lol its debian based so what the hell lol
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  they aint getting any more $$ from me. :P
[06:21] <avagant> But it's one cd :D
[06:21] <kontiki> Hi - Will you help me test my skype account? I've just set it up, verified it works with the checkout program. Do you have skype on now, & can connect?
[06:21] <Zaire> exactly lol
[06:21] <Jucato> lol
[06:21] <avagant> I'm not a patient man.
[06:21] <Zaire> shipit is still down :S
[06:22] <Jucato> Zaire: confirmed. launchpad is down
[06:22] <Hawkwind> No need for shipit until the 26th of this month anyways :P
[06:22] <kontiki> Anyone here have a skype account?
[06:22] <Jucato> Hawkwind: they won't ship Edgy :P
[06:23] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Says who ?
[06:23] <Jucato> Says Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter
[06:23] <Dr_willis> By the time you get your shipit cd's - the next release is out!
[06:23] <Jucato> they will only ship Dapper
[06:23] <avagant> I'm afraid to try Edgy, I'm barely getting a grasp on Kubuntu/Ubuntu.
[06:23] <Hawkwind> Why on earth would they do that
[06:23] <Jucato> but they will give out Edgy CD's to some LoCo teams
[06:23] <Jucato> Hawkwind: because Dapper is LTS, and Edgy is edgy?
[06:24] <avagant> I tried that whole compiz thing and it ruined my x server.
[06:24] <Jucato> avagant: well, you don't have to do that in Edgy :)
[06:24] <avagant> I had to switch to Kubuntu just to get something to work right.
[06:24] <avagant> And even Kubuntu isn't working 100 percent for me, so I must have done something.
[06:24] <avagant> It keeps complaining about calls to the xserver, like when I start up kate.
[06:25] <avagant> Or Kwrite
[06:25] <Hawkwind> avagant: Edgy is no different really.  I've been using it for over a month now
[06:25] <Hawkwind> Jucato: So they should ship me some for my LUG then :)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Yea - im bebatng installing Edgy soon.. or just going to Debian. :) (ick!) heh heh
[06:25] <Hawkwind> Troll!
[06:25] <Hawkwind> Hah
[06:25] <lnxkde> Hawkwind: sup!?
[06:25] <Jucato> heh
[06:26] <Hawkwind> lnxkde: Taxes and rent.  Care to pay them for me :P
[06:26] <avagant> I didn't think Edgy would be.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> avagant,  post the error message or 2..  theres a common message.. thats due to the touchpads being configured in the xorg.conf file
[06:26] <avagant> Maybe I should wait and skip a few new releases.
[06:26] <Jucato> Hawkwind: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14#head-1e3555bea7bd06018bbadcf89ed23281e09d78f1
[06:26] <avagant> I don't like upgrading and then finding out that nothing has really changed.
[06:27] <avagant> Upgrade means new to me.
[06:27] <tstafford> Has anyone used project looking glass?
[06:27] <unix_lappy> avagant: take a look at the changelogs and you'll find what has changed.
[06:27] <unix_lappy> tstafford: Project LookingGlass isnt linux.
[06:27] <unix_lappy> its BSD / Solaris.
[06:27] <tstafford> i know, i was just asking.
[06:27] <Jucato> avagant: of course many things have changed. but Hawkwind is crazy in a way :P
[06:27] <tstafford> Well there's all sorts of clients for it
[06:27] <lnxkde> Hawkwind: only if you tell me whats up with ulteo ;)
[06:28] <unix_lappy> tstafford: well, fine, but if you want to run LookingGlass you really should be running solaris.
[06:28] <unix_lappy> And i couldnt possibly find a reason to run solaris other than as a server :P
[06:28] <tstafford> :)
[06:28] <avagant> !pastebin
[06:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:28] <Hawkwind> lnxkde: No can do.  Top secret stuff, sorry :(
[06:28] <unix_lappy> tstafford: The answer to your question is, yes, solaris is slow, and LookingGlass is no better.
[06:29] <tstafford> Thanks :)
[06:29] <avagant> Well this is for starters of what happens when I open up kwrite http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27180/
[06:29] <unix_lappy> If you REALLY want to try it out, try the live cd and see if you like the interface.
[06:29] <lnxkde> Hawkwind:  well I still love you ;)
[06:29] <Jucato> !baddevice
[06:29] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[06:29] <lnxkde> Hawkwind: did the e17 debs got stable?
[06:29] <Jucato> avagant: ^^^^^
[06:29] <rawrness> anyone have any info about kbfx
[06:30] <avagant> And then when I open up Kate.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> !info kbfx
[06:30] <ubotu> kbfx: a new K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8+cvs20060413-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 193 kB, installed size 804 kB
[06:30] <avagant> Actually kate is the same thing.
[06:30] <rawrness> yes i know its a menu but has any one used it?
[06:30] <avagant> There was some message earlier about ksomething not being found and DCOP was yelling at me.
[06:31] <Jucato> avagant: those error messages are basically harmless
[06:31] <Dr_willis> avagant,  X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168   - is due to the touchpad in the xorg.conf
[06:31] <Jucato> at least the BadDevice ones
[06:31] <avagant> Dr_willis: Touchpad?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> avagant,  YES.. for the 4th time.. the xorg.conf has a default entry for a touchpad.. dont ask me why..
[06:31] <Jucato> avagant: X.org in Kubuntu is set to enable touchpad by default
[06:31] <Dr_willis>  :)
[06:31] <Dr_willis> dont ask me why.
[06:31] <avagant> Dr_willis: So what do I do, remove it?
[06:32] <Jucato> to accomodate as much hardware as possible "by default"
[06:32] <Dr_willis> thats what i do.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> or not worry about it.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> the errors mean nothing.
[06:32] <Jucato> avagant: the errors are harmless. Kate and Kwrite still startup, don't they?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I got a list of 'things' i do - to get  ubuntu tweaked in :)
[06:32] <avagant> Ok, I just never noticed it before.
[06:32] <avagant> Yah they still do.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu does some silly things at times.. Like that.
[06:32] <avagant> I used Kubuntu with Ubuntu before, and never noticed any of those error messages.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Its been in there since dapper. as far as i know
[06:34] <avagant> Well maybe I wasn't paying attention.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:34] <avagant> Who knows, I just don't want mr computer to be anymore unhappy than it already is.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> go buy it some nice toys...
[06:34] <Dr_willis> and give it a hug
[06:35] <Jucato> or you weren't trying to launch apps from the command line?
[06:35] <avagant> Jucato: Maybe not.
[06:35] <avagant> The cdrom drive is acting really really funny now, but I guess it's my fault for using Craigslist as a shopping market.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> just think of all the wasted cpu cycles! printing out those messages
[06:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:36] <avagant> Plus I want something with more HD, 20gb on 2 hd's is not enough for me. :D
[06:36] <Jucato_> gah! what happened?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> I got more porn then that! :P
[06:36] <Dr_willis> err.. vacation pics..
[06:36] <yellowtime> Hello room where are most of you from?
[06:36] <avagant> Hahaha.
[06:36] <avagant> Well I use one for the main installation and the other for my "media"
[06:37] <avagant> But I've already used like 3gb's so I need to think of a better plan here soon.
[06:37] <yellowtime> hello room
[06:38] <avagant> Shame my Mac had 40gb's on one drive and I got rid of it. We could have done some great things me and that Mac.
[06:39] <timthelion> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257843 I am having this problem. unfortunatly, I have invested so much in this system, that I am unwilling to reinstall. any way I could go about fixing it?
[06:40] <rawrness> fun i reinstall weekly it appears
[06:40] <avagant> Yah is there a recommended sources.list for kubuntu or could it be the same as the ubuntu one on the forums? Because I've been looking.
[06:40] <timthelion> rawrness: are you making fun of me?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[06:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:40] <rawrness> nope
[06:41] <dude_> !printers
[06:41] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:41] <timthelion> no one seems to know how to help me :(
[06:41] <rawrness> more making fun of self than anything
[06:41] <avagant> rawrness: I don't reinstall out of choice, but my typical is at least once a week.
[06:41] <rawrness> Me to
[06:41] <rawrness> i wish i would get tit right the first time
[06:42] <Dr_willis> timthelion,  you could put a summary of the problem hwere.. so everyond dont have to fire up a web briwser to read forum message.
[06:42] <avagant> rawrness: Usually by the time I get settled into an installation it's more I screw things up so bad that I have to.
[06:42] <rawrness> but i think i got it
[06:42] <rawrness> well thats fun to
[06:42] <timthelion> well, when I run a gtk app. it closes immediately reporting a segmentation fault.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> timthelion,  so its crashing. :)
[06:43] <timthelion> yes
[06:43] <timthelion> every single one
[06:43] <Dr_willis> timthelion,  #1 thing to test.. create a new user... see if the issue affects that new user as well.
[06:43] <timthelion> firefox. gftp, gnome,...
[06:43] <avagant> Ouch, I had a problem with that, only with alsa and esd.
[06:43] <avagant> Do you know what happened, or if you did something timthelion?
[06:43] <timthelion> well, I installed gnome
[06:43] <timthelion> and it worked
[06:43] <timthelion> then it didn't
[06:44] <timthelion> I was messing around with a bunch of the accessabuility stuff, and theems
[06:44] <avagant> And poof?
[06:44] <timthelion> yes
[06:44] <timthelion> well
[06:44] <timthelion> you are right about the user thing
[06:44] <avagant> I find that if I mess around with anything and think I'm hot crap that's when I have the most problems.
[06:44] <timthelion> I can do sudo gftp
[06:45] <Dr_willis> timthelion,  if your gnome settings are to blame you can delete that users .gnome* and .gconf* dirs to resset them all back to defaults.
[06:45] <timthelion> so how do I fix my profile?
[06:45] <timthelion> ok
[06:47] <avagant> I always ready EVERYTHING before I do anything, anymore.
[06:48] <avagant> By now I know how to mount a hd, configure my alsa, and do about 300 other things but believe me timthelion, the amount of times I've had to reinstall is kind of ridiculous.
[06:48] <avagant> I've had Ubuntu for maybe 3 weeks.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> learn how to trouble shoot and fix. :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> reduces the # of reinstalls
[06:48] <avagant> Too impatient.
[06:48] <avagant> Haha.
[06:48] <avagant> I guess I don't know how to troubleshoot right. I fought my soundcard for 2 months on Windows, so maybe I"m just wore out.
[06:49] <timthelion> yay.
[06:49] <timthelion> thanx
[06:49] <avagant> Pop in Ubuntu disc, sound out of the box. It's just the alsa ordeal and everything that had me going.,
[06:49] <timthelion> rm .gtk* did the trick
[06:49] <avagant> Hurray!
[06:49] <Dr_willis> for sound cards - it pays to splurge on a nice Creative card
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:50] <avagant> Splurge is what I do best, when I have money.
[06:50] <avagant> Unfortunetly, I have none.
[06:51] <Dr_willis> 'Would you like fries with that glutton bucket sir?"
[06:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:51] <rawrness> Avagant: At least you have had money
[06:52] <avagant> Yah 6 months ago. Hahahaha
[06:52] <avagant> Every now and again I have 20 dollars or so, that's always nice.
[06:53] <rawrness> takes me about 2 months to get 20 bucks :P
[06:53] <avagant> Holy crap.
[06:54] <rawrness> 2 years it took me to afford my crapy 300 $ emachine
[06:55] <avagant> Hahaha I feel sorry.
[06:55] <cpk2> Jucato: I finally finished my script to batch encode .avi =P
[06:55] <avagant> How about flv. Haha.
[06:55] <rawrness> fun
[06:56] <rawrness> I am stuck converting all my vids in windows
[06:56] <rawrness> cause i love super (c) so much.
[06:57] <avagant> I want to convert my flv videos without them taking up 3gb's of HD.
[06:58] <glutGlobe> can somebody help me figure out why I have an open port on my machine, but no pid matched to it?
[06:58] <avagant> btw, youtubeget is quite possibly the best firefox extension ever.
[06:59] <rawrness> videodownloader :P
[07:00] <Jucato> cpk2: sorry I was away. that's great! how is it?
[07:00] <avagant> I need to learn how to bash script.
[07:00] <avagant> That's right, that's something I wanted to do.
[07:03] <klerfayt> so I can run beryl without xgl in edgy then using latest nvidia drivers?
[07:04] <BonBonTheJon> anyone know how to use kdesvn
[07:04] <user___> anyone here have any experience with other os'?
[07:05] <BonBonTheJon> user___: what do you mean
[07:05] <cpk2> Jucato: it works great, and i got it down to 1 line =D
[07:05] <dbglt> ok
[07:05] <avagant> I've used Mac, and was frustrated with it. Mostly a Windows user, now kind of converted to Linux but not sold yet.
[07:05] <Jucato> cpk2: nice :)
[07:05] <user___> well was just wondering which of the hundreds of penguins is the best
[07:05] <dbglt> on updating to edgy, my openoffice font looks really dodgy
[07:05] <dbglt> any way to fix this?
[07:05] <cpk2> Jucato: perl took a little longer than i was hoping hehe
[07:06] <Jucato> you tried to use perl?
[07:06] <cpk2> is there anything else that can get stuff done in one line?
[07:06] <Jucato> heh :)
[07:06] <Zaire> anyone know why the shipit launchpad is down?
[07:07] <cpk2> Jucato: room mate has a perl oreilly book =)
[07:07] <Jucato> ah
[07:07] <glutGlobe> Zaire: I dunno but it was down yesterday this time also
[07:07] <cpk2> little reading never hurt anyone
[07:07] <Healot> it's down alright
[07:07] <Hawkwind> Zaire: It's not down here
[07:07] <Hawkwind> I just got to LP
[07:08] <Zaire> thats odd
[07:08] <Jucato> it was down for me a few minutes ago. now it's up again
[07:08] <user___> so any opinions on the best linux?
[07:08] <glutGlobe> ?
[07:08] <Jucato> user__: "best" is usually what works for you and what you want/need
[07:08] <Hawkwind> user___: Use many different distros and then decide what's best for *YOU*
[07:08] <Zaire> same here
[07:08] <Jucato> other people's opinions will forever remain as opinions
[07:09] <Zaire> wierd
[07:09] <Hawkwind> If there was a *best* there would only be one
[07:09] <glutGlobe> user___: I have seen people get into big fights after questions like that....
[07:09] <avagant> That's what I should do, go learn some perl.
[07:09] <user___> but thats alot of install uninstall dont you think
[07:09] <cpk2> well since this is #kubuntu...
[07:09] <Jucato> user__: then I recommend you try out Live CD's
[07:09] <Hawkwind> user___: Live CD's are available for almost every distro now days.  No installing needed
[07:09] <cpk2> kubuntu is the best linux!
[07:09] <Hawkwind> cpk2: Again, that's a personal opinion
[07:10] <Jucato> avagant: hm... a while ago you said bash, now perl :P
[07:10] <Zaire> Ive used many and find ubuntu, kubuntu and debian the best
[07:10] <Jucato> cpk2: for Hawkwind, e17buntu is the best :P
[07:10] <Zaire> my only prob with debian is it has a major prob with skype
[07:10] <avagant> Jucato: I can't make up my mind.
[07:10] <Hawkwind> Bahhhhhhhh, Ebuntu doesn't seem like it's ever going to happen
[07:10] <glutGlobe> user___: if you are looking for something to get up and running quick, besides a live cd, go with *buntu
[07:10] <cpk2> Hawkwind: i know, but like i said since this is #kubuntu you would think most people would say kubuntu is the roxxor
[07:10] <Jucato> avagant: well, you could always study both, but I don't recommend studying both at the same time :)
[07:10] <cpk2> e17buntu?
[07:11] <Hawkwind> cpk2: Ebuntu....Ubuntu based on the E17 window manager
[07:11] <avagant> Jucato: I've "tried" to dabble in ruby, python, and c. But really didn't get far at all.,
[07:11] <Jucato> cpk2: my bad, it's Ebuntu :)
[07:11] <rawrness> just like qwerty and dvorak at the same time :P
[07:11] <Zaire> edubuntu?
[07:11] <glutGlobe> avagant: I would say perl.  Its pretty flexible for things outside the term
[07:11] <Jucato> avagant: I guess it depends on what you ultimately plan to do. to develop or just a hobby
[07:11] <glutGlobe> rawrness: :-)
[07:11] <Jucato> Zaire: edubuntu is Educational Ubuntu. Ebuntu is Enlightenment Ubuntu
[07:11] <avagant> Jucato: Honestly, I really don't know.
[07:11] <Zaire> ah
[07:12] <Jucato> avagant: hm.. I'd categorize that as "hobby" :)
[07:12] <cpk2> haha i dont think you would want to develop in perl
[07:12] <avagant> Wait there's a EBUNTU too.
[07:12] <Jucato> avagant: 3rd party/community project
[07:12] <Zaire> I tried enlightenment in mandrake and it sucked then...also that was v9.2 aswell
[07:12] <Hawkwind> avagant: It's been started, just not coming along very well
[07:12] <Jucato> not really affiliated with Canonical
[07:12] <glutGlobe> the other side of that is that perl can be very hard to read....
[07:12] <cpk2> Hawkwind: is e17 a "light weight" windows manager?
[07:12] <Hawkwind> Zaire: That was enlightenment, not E17.  They are two different things
[07:12] <Jucato> I was looking forward to Ebuntu, until I fell madly in love with KDE
[07:12] <Zaire> good lol
[07:12] <Hawkwind> spoop: Yes.  get-e.org to read about it yourself
[07:13] <avagant> I used KDE for a little bit when I first got ubuntu.
[07:13] <avagant> It was eating up my computer alive.
[07:13] <Hawkwind> Hah
[07:13] <avagant> So I opted to just install it clean by itself and see how that works.
[07:13] <Hawkwind> Good ole DE for ya :P
[07:13] <Jucato> heh
[07:13] <cpk2> glutGlobe: *can be* very hard to read? you mean pretty much is always hard to read? =P
[07:13] <Jucato> Hawkwind: btw, for Edgy, I might try my minimal install again :)
[07:13] <Jucato> night Hawkwind! :)
[07:14] <avagant> I want to make cool scripts to make things easier on myself.
[07:14] <glutGlobe> cpk2: well...you get the hang of it after a while (of staring at the same program).
[07:14] <cpk2> I am going to try to learn a little bit of setting up a lamp before edgy comes out then install a lamp with edgy
[07:14] <rawrness> what would i learn to make .bat scripts ?
[07:14] <avagant> Or just full around and make stupid little windows that pop up and say "Hello World" haha.
[07:14] <Jucato> avagant: scripts? you best go with bash or python then. just imho
[07:14] <cpk2> avagant: well perl sure is "cool" hehe one line scripts ftw
[07:15] <rawrness> that neverclose
[07:15] <Jucato> rawrness: bash
[07:15] <rawrness> kk
[07:15] <glutGlobe> avagant: if thats your goal then you might just stay off perl (cool scripts to save time)
[07:15] <Jucato> glutGlobe: stay off or stay with?
[07:15] <avagant> Eh, maybe I should just try a little of each.
[07:15] <rawrness> Junato know any resources that may help?
[07:16] <glutGlobe> Jucato: off...perl is hard to learn.
[07:16] <avagant> It's just all the terminology that kind of throws me off.
[07:16] <Jucato> glutGlobe: ah ok :)
[07:16] <Jucato> avagant: that's why it needs to be learned :)
[07:16] <avagant> Haha, me no good at learn.
[07:16] <Jucato> knowledge comes with a price. that price is effort :)
[07:16] <glutGlobe> Jucato: i have spent 4 years learning and still wonder most of the time.
[07:16] <glutGlobe> ;-)
[07:16] <rawrness> or dead peoples memories :P
[07:17] <Jucato> glol
[07:17] <rawrness> I love wheel of time.
[07:17] <rawrness> lol
[07:18] <rawrness> I wonder how many full  pages   you can print with thouse laser printers that use toner before yoou run out.
[07:18] <Zaire> how is sec on shipit?
[07:19] <glutGlobe> rawrness: ?
[07:20] <Jucato> Zaire: ?
[07:21] <Zaire> how is sec on shipit?
[07:21] <rawrness> laser printers toner, how many full pages of text
[07:21] <rawrness> :P
[07:21] <Jucato> Zaire: sec = security?
[07:21] <Zaire> yep
[07:21] <Jucato> hm.. seems to be ok
[07:21] <Jucato> I haven't received any spam mail if that's what you mean :)
[07:21] <Zaire> just curious
[07:22] <Zaire> I can be paranoid lol
[07:22] <glutGlobe> you should try it.  Get a new toner (brand new...most expensive) and write a endless loop to print to it. ;-)
[07:22] <Zaire> lol
[07:23] <rawrness> or just use the schools :P
[07:23] <rawrness> the teacher just refilled it
[07:23] <Jucato> lol
[07:24] <cpk2> i know this is off topic guys but look at this http://nov.4chan.org/r/src/1161142707922.gif
[07:24] <glutGlobe> rawrness: I dont know what school you go to but at mine they charge $0.05/page :-( ... unless you plug good ol lappy into the printer
[07:24] <rawrness> XD
[07:24] <Jucato> cpk2: lol
[07:24] <rawrness> its a small school by the cascades
[07:25] <rawrness> we have about a hour or two ride to get to the pass
[07:25] <glutGlobe> cpk2:lol
[07:25] <cpk2> my room mate said the copier at the library was broken the other day and him and his study group spent about half their study copying a math book and some physics stuff
[07:26] <rawrness> Kill him!
[07:27] <Zaire> 25 cd order lol
[07:27] <rawrness> Fun
[07:27] <rawrness> I ordered the kubuntu live cd from canoical
[07:27] <rawrness> and it sucked
[07:27] <Jucato> heh
[07:27] <rawrness> didn't even detect my dsl stupid thing
[07:27] <Zaire> just ordered kubuntu, ubuntu and edubuntu
[07:27] <rawrness> fun :P
[07:27] <cpk2> i've heard the kubuntu cd is lacking
[07:28] <Zaire> my server is using it lol
[07:28] <rawrness> What makes me madder
[07:28] <rawrness> is i gave away abunch of cds
[07:28] <rawrness> i might of just turned a bunch of people away :(
[07:29] <cpk2> with a live cd people dont get to experience the awesomeness of apt-get anyways
[07:29] <Zaire> I figure I can use the distro's that run gnome as coasters while the ones running kde can stay safe in the cd wallet lol
[07:29] <Jobberwacky> you can do what you want
[07:30] <Zaire> actually you can use apt-get in the live cd lol
[07:30] <rawrness> strange  just found 2 gutair picks in my pocket
[07:30] <rawrness> i havn't touched mine in months.
[07:30] <cpk2> not even windows has getting apps as easy it is in apt-get
[07:30] <Zaire> thats cause windows apps aren't free lol
[07:30] <glutGlobe> rawrness: you....are really random
[07:30] <rawrness> THats me
[07:30] <rawrness> themanwhosaysrawr
[07:31] <rawrness> thats my new email adress
[07:31] <glutGlobe> cpk2: did you just....wait.  no you didnt.
[07:31] <cpk2> lol
[07:31] <rawrness> Very strange person.
[07:32] <rawrness> well now i retire to sleep perhaps tomorow everyones
[07:32] <rawrness> sleep  well and wake
[07:32] <glutGlobe> rawrness: indeed...class tomorrow!
[07:32] <avagant> How do you restart X? or even stop it? Reboot?
[07:33] <glutGlobe> avagant:ctrl-alt-bksp
[07:33] <Healot> sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop
[07:33] <glutGlobe> (from the xwin)
[07:33] <Healot> do that in a tty
[07:34] <Jucato> "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" works too :)
[07:34] <avagant> tty?
[07:34] <globe> lol
[07:34] <globe> tty=terminal window (no graphical-ness)
[07:34] <Jucato> avagant: to restart X, "ctrl+alt+backspace"
[07:35] <Jucato> avagant: to stop X, Ctrl+Alt+F1,then type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" or the command that Healot gave
[07:35] <avagant> Ah, I was gonna try this thing for the error device comments I keep getting.
[07:35] <Jucato> avagant: ah you just need to restart X I think
[07:35] <avagant> Cept it says 148?? on the page mine is 145.
[07:35] <Jucato> avagant: the Device number varies
[07:36] <cpk2> ctrl-alt-backspace is not a nice way to restart x
[07:36] <avagant> It really doesn't matter, considering kate and kwrite still run.
[07:36] <avagant> But it kind of freaked me out, since I just installed KDE like 5 hours ago.
[07:37] <cpk2> avagant: what is the problem?
[07:37] <Jucato> cpk2: of course a longer way is: K Menu -> Logout/End Session -> Login Screen menu, Restart X Server
[07:37] <Jucato> !baddevice
[07:37] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[07:37] <Jucato> that one ^^^^^
[07:37] <cpk2> oh the wacom tablet thing?
[07:37] <avagant> cpk2: That yah.
[07:38] <avagant> I was wondering to myself how I managed to screw up ANOTHER install.
[07:38] <cpk2> Jucato: the annoying thing with my kdm stop/restart on my laptop is that it would randomly lose my display
[07:38] <Jucato> cpk2: um.. it should actually. because it stops KDM
[07:38] <cpk2> Jucato: I would have to switch to tty log in and reboot blindly =P
[07:38] <cpk2> Jucato: my display would get no output in any tty
[07:38] <globe> cpk2: I get the same problem about 1 in 5
[07:38] <Jucato> oh
[07:39] <cpk2> i literally logged in and rebooted blindly
[07:39] <cpk2> and I have no clue what caused it
[07:40] <cpk2> I have stopped doing init.d/kdm stop/restart from konsole
[07:40] <avagant> I had the problem where I was trying to install compiz and all that crap in Ubuntu, and suddenly couldn't get any graphics out of gdm.
[07:40] <avagant> But I did everything by the book.
[07:40] <Jucato> cpk2: that explains it then
[07:40] <globe> ug.
[07:40] <avagant> And that is why I am on Kubuntu today. :D
[07:40] <cpk2> Jucato: is that a bad thing to do?
[07:41] <Jucato> cpk2: afaik, definitely
[07:41] <cpk2> oh, oops
[07:41] <cpk2> umm how so?
[07:41] <Jucato> cpk2: you usually stop/restart kdm from a tty
[07:41] <avagant> But guys I want bouncy stretchy applications and transparent everything.
[07:41] <Jucato> because you're abruply stopping kdm?
[07:41] <avagant> That whole cube thing is pretty lame, I don't know why people would want that.
[07:42] <Jucato> I'm not sure about the technical reasons. but experience tells me it's bad
[07:42] <intelikey> cpk2 & Jucato what's the issue ?
[07:42] <globe> avagant: you want fancy graphics yet you IRC?
[07:42] <cpk2> well my experience tells me its bad too haha
[07:42] <avagant> :D
[07:42] <Jucato> lol
[07:42] <Jucato> intelikey: no issue here. just discussing :)
[07:42] <avagant> I just want transparent everything.
[07:42] <avagant> Haha.
[07:42] <avagant> I tried fluxbox, but that was a no go.
[07:43] <avagant> I have about this (makes tiny motion) experience doing anything computer wise.
[07:43] <intelikey> Jucato i assumed it was cpk2's issue and you were helping him ?   no?
[07:43] <cpk2> intelikey: just wondering why I would completely lose display output when i did /etc/init.d/kdm stop/restart from a konsole
[07:43] <cpk2> i dont do it anymore since it is annoying to have to log into a tty blindly and then blindly sudo reboot
[07:44] <avagant> Is it easy to install themes, or as hard as I hear it is?
[07:44] <cpk2> nevermind the fact that rebooting itself is annoying =P
[07:44] <avagant> That you have manually extract them into a folder?
[07:44] <cpk2> avagant: there is a theme manager
[07:45] <cpk2> that reads tars
[07:45] <intelikey> ah cpk2 because killing kdm sends the kill sig to everything xinit has running.   among the things xinit is controling is xorg
[07:45] <globe> avagant: easy
[07:45] <avagant> Is it as easy as Ubuntu?
[07:45] <avagant> Drag tar into themes, your theme is there?
[07:45] <cpk2> intelikey: but I dont get output in tty1
[07:45] <Jucato> avagant: nope.but you don't have to extarct the tar :)
[07:45] <user___> any idea why when i choose to boot from cd it just boots kubuntu instead
[07:45] <avagant> Oh sweet.
[07:45] <cpk2> avagant: download and then tell the theme manager where it is. then it does the rest
[07:45] <avagant> But you can't drag and drop?
[07:46] <Jucato> avagant: nope :P
[07:46] <globe> what irc client do you use?
[07:46] <cpk2> drag and drop to where?
[07:46] <avagant> Dangit.
[07:46] <Jucato> cpk2: themes, like in GNOME
[07:46] <cpk2> i've never used gnome lol
[07:46] <Jucato> avagant: btw, KDE handles themes quite differently compared to GNOME
[07:46] <avagant> Well that sucks, I guess I'm just lazy.
[07:46] <avagant> globe: Konversation
[07:46] <avagant> It's the only one I actually like.
[07:47] <cpk2> avagant: I dont think you realize how easy themes are handled in kde?
[07:47] <cpk2> avagant: just make sure you have kdmtheme installed first
[07:47] <avagant> Well I guess if I just make a "theme" folder and send the theme manager there.
[07:47] <intelikey> cpk2 there shouldn't be any output from a kdm restart issued in a console, except the   two printf lines   "stopping....  [ok]  && starting.... [ok] "
[07:47] <Jucato> avagant: basically, the reason why it's so easy to theme GNOME is because you basically (keyword: basic) only have one window decoration engine (Metacity's) and one widget style engine (GTK+)
[07:47] <Jucato> cpk2: err... kdmtheme is for installing graphically KDM themes
[07:48] <Jucato> only
[07:48] <avagant> What's the best one for the most awesome themes?
[07:48] <cpk2> intelikey: *display* output as in the monito has no signal
[07:48] <avagant> These things, I need to know.
[07:48] <cpk2> Jucato: didnt he say kdmtheme?
[07:48] <Jucato> cpk2: no. he just said "theme"
[07:48] <avagant> And added, "best"
[07:48] <Jucato> lol
[07:48] <cpk2> avagant: then ignore what i was saying =X
[07:48] <avagant> :D
[07:49] <Jucato> "best" is very subjective. you won't be able to get accurate answers
[07:49] <intelikey> cpk2 are you saying "you can not access tty1?"
[07:49] <avagant> Um.
[07:49] <Jucato> "best" would be what works for you, what you like, what you want, what you need :)
[07:49] <avagant> I didn't know you could do transparent things in KDE until I discovered it and now my menu's are basically see through.
[07:49] <cpk2> intelikey: everything still works but the monitor gets no signal
[07:49] <avagant> I need....awesome.
[07:50] <avagant> It really doesn't matter.
[07:50] <cpk2> intelikey: basically i just type r e a l l y carefully to reboot
[07:50] <avagant> Lord knows in like 3 days I'll have to reinstall.
[07:50] <avagant> That's the current trend.
[07:50] <cpk2> since i cant see what I am typing
[07:50] <Jucato> avagant: not if you're careful :)
[07:51] <globe> cpk2: you wern't kidding when you said blind
[07:51] <intelikey> cpk2 the vga= line is wrong for your monitor.  edit your boot loader (probably grub) adding vga=0x0f05  that should always give text in console.
[07:51] <globe> be glad you aren't in my shoes...dvorak on a qwerty kbd...my letters mean absolutly nothing
[07:51] <globe> *ely
[07:51] <avagant> So is there something I need to "apt get"?
[07:51] <javacoder> has anyone run a subversion server from ubuntu?
[07:53] <cpk2> intelikey: so doing /etc/init.d/kdm stop/restart isnt a bad thing after all?
[07:53] <Jucato> cpk2: not if you do it in tty, afaik :P
[07:53] <intelikey> cpk2 what i'm saying is it's a "frame buffering issue."   so if you don't use frame buffering for the console you don't even need to fix the issue.      be advised that you will have text display bootup, but consoles will work and it wont affect the gui at all
[07:54] <intelikey> cpk2 NO. /etc/init.d/kdm stop/restart isnt a bad thing
[07:54] <avagant> I just don't want to do anything that's going to screw me up and make me have to reinstall.
[07:54] <cpk2> intelikey: i'm talking about /etc/init.d/kdm stop/restart from konsole though not tty
[07:56] <intelikey> from konsole it may cause issues,  one being if your graphic session (kde) saves and restores it's state,  then when it starts it will try to restore the konsole and possably the kdm command.   that would be bad.
[07:57] <intelikey> aside from that.  i know of no major issues that it would cause.
[07:58] <intelikey> btw. kde can be set to NOT restore sessions.
[07:58] <cpk2> i like restoring sessions
[07:59] <cpk2> I enjoying knowing which desktop amarok will always be in, where kmail is, where konversation is..
[07:59] <cpk2> i'm sure you get the picture
[07:59] <intelikey> well that is the only risk that i am aware of.
[08:00] <Jucato> cpk2: you can always set apps to launch in a specific desktop
[08:00] <cpk2> but then i would have to open them =P
[08:00] <cpk2> and gaim refuses to listen to anything i tell it to
[08:01] <cpk2> it gaves to whatever darn desktop it wants
[08:01] <Jucato> lol :)
[08:01] <intelikey> or even save a particular setup as the default and have kde to always load the default
[08:01] <avagant> So themes?
[08:02] <cpk2> avagant: like icon themes?
[08:02] <avagant> Just overall themes.
[08:02] <avagant> If that includes transparency, osx like, whatever. I need the creme le crop even though my computer sucks.
[08:03] <cpk2> well i think you would need to go to more than one area but go to system settings then appearance
[08:04] <intelikey> kcontrol
[08:04] <cpk2> i just set up a kdmtheme and backgrounds and that is all the prettyness i need
[08:04] <avagant> But is there something special I should apt-get or anything like....gtk or something?
[08:04] <intelikey> kcontrol themes
[08:04] <cpk2> you mean qt?
[08:04] <avagant> is it qt here? i thought it was gtk or something, who knows.
[08:04] <cpk2> qt is to kde as gtk is to gnome
[08:04] <avagant> Righeous.
[08:05] <cpk2> and you should already have qt installed with kde
[08:05] <intelikey> kinda hard to install kde without qt
[08:06] <avagant> I used KDE briefly like a month ago, so I have no idea.
[08:07] <zardus> hello
[08:07] <zardus> has anyone ever had trouble booting after adding a SATA controller?
[08:07] <intelikey> kcontrol is your friend
[08:07] <peteryu> hello
[08:07] <intelikey> zardus im sure someone has.
[08:07] <Jucato> or System Settings (as long as you stay away from .kth/KDE Theme Manager files)
[08:08] <intelikey> Jucato isn't "System Settings" == kcontrol   :)
[08:08] <Jucato> intelikey: of course not :P
[08:09] <intelikey> zardus what exactly is it not/doing ?    and to you get error messages ?
[08:09] <Jucato> System Settings is a simplified and reorganized KControl :)
[08:09] <cpk2> does lspci show the controller?
[08:10] <zardus> intelikey: well, I put the SATA controller in, and I plugged in 3 drives into it. On bootup, it comes up with the SATA controller bios, detects the 3 drives, then goes on to boot from my PATA drive, loads stage 1.5 in Grub, says "Please wait..." and hangs
[08:10] <intelikey> hmmmm grub
[08:11] <zardus> well, the interesting thing is that the kubuntu CD won't boot when those drives are hooked up either
[08:11] <intelikey> drives bios is changed so you will have to reinstall grub i think
[08:11] <zardus> neither does Damn Small Linux
[08:11] <intelikey> !grub
[08:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:11] <zardus> Well, the thing is... I can't boot anything while the drives are hooked up
[08:12] <zardus> I can unplug the drives, leave the controller in, and boot no problem
[08:12] <zardus> but with the SATA drives plugged in, nothing will boot. Just hangs there
[08:13] <zardus> I did reinstall grub just in case
[08:13] <zardus> but no good :-(
[08:13] <avagant> Hooly everything got like 30 times bigger.
[08:13] <intelikey> i'm not a grub fan, can't even use it on this boxen so...    but i can tell you that all you need bios for is to access the boot disk (what ever it is.)  after that linux can take over.   so disabling everthing you can in bios may help.
[08:14] <zardus> intelikey: good idea, I'll try that
[08:14] <ian_> does kubuntu have opera? and will  it have no problems running gcompris? im new to linux... sorry for the noob questions...
[08:14] <cpk2> hooray someone fixed a kdmtheme that I have been wanting to get but wasnt working =D
[08:15] <intelikey> ian_ opera is not in the standard repositories.  it is avalable tho.
[08:16] <intelikey> !opera
[08:16] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:16] <avagant> Ok now everything is huge what did I do.
[08:16] <intelikey> avagant changed font size i'd guess
[08:16] <ian_> intelikey but it is in the synaptic right? really sorry im looking for a distro.... and im really new so im really overwhelmed on what to use....
[08:16] <intelikey> possably rez... ?
[08:17] <intelikey> ian_ see ubotu ^
[08:17] <cpk2> avagant: try ctrl-alt-minusonnumbpad
[08:17] <cpk2> or is he not talking about res?
[08:18] <intelikey> cpk2 i think a theem did it to him
[08:18] <intelikey> so prolly font size
[08:18] <Ertain> My display settings (for when my monitor shuts off) are not saved when I log off.  Any ideas?
[08:20] <intelikey> Ertain kde can be set to save automaticly the settings   kcontrol is your friend.
[08:21] <intelikey> aka kmenu > System Settings > *
[08:21] <Jucato> hmm.. I think that was a bug in KDE 3.5.2 and KDE 3.5.4?
[08:21] <Ertain> Yeah, I think it was a bug, too.
[08:22] <intelikey> possably-ossably-ossably
[08:23] <flaccid> possible to install kubuntu from by booting from usb flash drive or floppy then install from cd (can't boot from cdrom)?
[08:23] <Ertain> Even if I use Kcontrol it doesn't save.
[08:24] <pacman> anyone know if there is a channel for GIMP?
[08:24] <Ertain> I think there's #gimp, but I don't know for sure.
[08:24] <manjunatha> how to get only cannoinical updates in apt
[08:25] <intelikey> settings in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:25] <intelikey> !repos
[08:25] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:26] <intelikey> i'm not sure that that link is apropose
 The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[08:29] <zardus> Bah, crap
[08:29] <zardus> It gets to the boot point faster, but still no boot :-(
[08:29] <intelikey> zardus were these new or used drives ?
[08:31] <zardus> new drives
[08:32] <intelikey> not raid then....
[08:32] <zardus> the SATA controller can do raid, but right now it is supposed to just be presenting them as 3 separate drives
[08:32] <zardus> if I group them into a raid array, then it doesn't boot grub at all for some reason
[08:33] <intelikey> hmmm   still lean on the idea that grub is now looking on the wrong drive for the rest of it's files....   i could be wrong it could be a real hardware issue.
[08:33] <flaccid> what to do when can't boot from cd drive?
[08:33] <flaccid> to install kubuntu..
[08:33] <zardus> like the sata controller is incompatible with the system?
[08:34] <zardus> is it worth trying lilo? I mean, the CD fails to boot as well.. Doesn't that use isolinux or something/
[08:34] <intelikey> zardus yeah but i don't think that will be the final answer on that.  i still think grub will be it.
[08:35] <intelikey> zardus if you can get anything to boot try lilo.
[08:35] <intelikey> i have to use lilo cause grub is to week for this setup
[08:36] <zardus> I'll give it a try right now. gonna unplug the drives, boot into kubuntu, install lilo, make sure it works, and reboot with the drives plugged in
[08:36] <martinjh99> Morning - Any news on when Egdy is released???
[08:36] <flaccid> can you do network install of kubuntu
[08:38] <intelikey> !netboot
[08:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:39] <flaccid> ta
[08:40] <intelikey> same factoid for !netinstall    i just like less typing :)
[08:40] <martinjh99> !netinstall
[08:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:40] <intelikey> so i can type lots more to explain it and look smart....
[08:40] <intelikey> lol not really.
[08:41] <intelikey> it was a joke, ok.   gosh !
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[08:44] <Jucato> ??
[08:45] <MotorCitymadMan> Sysinfo for 'max': Linux 2.6.15-27-386 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: AMDAthlon643400+ at 1005 MHz (2011 bogomips), , RAM: 386/1010MB, 106 proc's, 6.39min up
[08:45] <Lam_> !help
[08:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:45] <Lam_> neat
[08:45] <cpk2> Sysinfo for 'snoresqueeze': Linux 2.6.15-27-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4806 bogomips), , RAM: 1199/1263MB, 130 proc's, 4.7d up
[08:46] <intelikey> oh Jucato a resource test.   holds my cpu at about  40.1 %
[08:46] <Jucato> lol
[08:46] <Jucato> couldn't you have done it in a private room? :P
[08:46] <cpk2> 0.0 1199/1263mb of ram?
[08:47] <intelikey> testing resource limits.  yeah  but you wouldn't have had the pleasure of seeing it.  :)
[08:47] <Jucato> or asking about it :)
[08:48] <zardus> crap... well, lilo gives me "LILO - Timestamp mismatch" and doesn't boot
[08:48] <zardus> this is without the drives, though, so its probably something stupid i did
[08:48] <cpk2> or bashing him for not using a private room? =P
[08:48] <Jucato> lol
[08:49] <zardus> wait, that's interesting... if I take out the card altogether, the timestamp mismatch goes away
[08:49] <zardus> so with lilo it doesn't work if the card is in at all, not just if the drives are plugged in
[08:49] <zardus> It gave me a warning when I installed lilo the first time. Let me revert to grub and install lilo again with the card in and see if that warning pops up
[08:50] <zardus> hmm.. warning didn't have to do with the card. it says "Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. Name change: '/dev/dm-0' -> '/dev/evms/hda1'"
[08:51] <intelikey> Jucato i have a gui running with twm + this icr connection + playing multimedia files (no skips or jumps in them) + that resource loop  and  total memory used is  15.8 M      on  a k6-ii 350mhz boxen    :)
[08:51] <intelikey> sounds and looks good  and obviously still has power to spare
[08:52] <luke_> hey quick question folks...  could somebody explain the difference between the default power profiles?  Powersave vs Conservative vs Ondemand etc?
[08:53] <intelikey> zardus a warning does not constitute an error
[08:53] <zardus> yeah. Its the only thing I have to go on, though
[08:53] <intelikey> if in doubt you can umount proc and run lilo
[08:53] <zardus> ever run into lilo just not liking a controller card?
[08:54] <intelikey> no never have yet.
[08:55] <intelikey> zardus maybe disable evms and see what it does
[08:55] <MotorCitymadMan> thinking, can you see the smoke, i wonder why more users go for gnome over kde
[08:55] <intelikey> but i have see the name change warning before...
[08:56] <intelikey> MotorCitymadMan cause it is the default for ubuntu ?
[08:56] <MotorCitymadMan> very good reasoning
[08:57] <marlon__> i prefer kubuntu
[08:58] <intelikey> i'm not sure that more people do,  in some groups you find trends that you don't find in others....   i think that the statictics will prove that more people choose M$ windows out of ignorance than out of choice....
[08:59] <intelikey> not that they wouldn't use M$  just that they don't know they have a choice.
[08:59] <marlon__> that's true dude!!
[08:59] <MotorCitymadMan> yes, i just burn the kubuntu iso , just as easy , i've found kde to be workable
[08:59] <MotorCitymadMan> more*
[09:00] <goliath23> hi
[09:01] <intelikey> i used windows until xp came out, imo it was regressing not progressing....    i never have been a fan of automatic krap.    "if you make it idiot proof, they will just make a better idiot"
[09:01] <luke_> can anyone tell me what the difference between standby, suspend, and hibernate are?
[09:01] <luke_> I always thouht standby and suspend were the same thing
[09:02] <goliath23> i upgraded to kde 3.5.5 recently using the repository announced on the homepage. sadly the automounting of usb-sticks doesn't work right now (at least that's the most annoying bug ;) .. I don't want to spam bug reports but I couldn't find a note about that problem in the wiki. is it a known problem for kde 3.5.5 on dapper? (the dialog "what do you want to do" shows up, but when I click on "open in new window" nothing happens)
[09:03] <intelikey> standby just slows things down    suspend hangs them out to dry while hibernate saves them to ram/disk  and kills the thing.
[09:03] <MotorCitymadMan> goliath23@ same happened to me
[09:03] <goliath23> so I guess there's already a bug report on launchpad. it#s
[09:04] <luke_> :intelikey thanks
[09:04] <goliath23> it's just so hard to find in this sea of bugs. I hope someone pays a horde of students sometime to clean this up ;)
[09:04] <MotorCitymadMan> not sure, but i fixed with a manual mount dir
[09:04] <cpk2> thats odd the what do you want to do works for me...
[09:04] <pacman> I'm lost
[09:04] <intelikey> !malone
[09:04] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[09:04] <intelikey> report it    ^
[09:04] <intelikey> report it    ^
[09:04] <intelikey> report it    ^
[09:05] <goliath23> intelikey: me?
[09:05] <intelikey> yes
[09:05] <goliath23> ok
[09:05] <pacman> anyone familiar with getting a printer set up?
[09:05] <goliath23> any hint on providing more detailed info on this one? certain kde/konqueror logs?
[09:05] <intelikey> if you don't find a report on a bug  then report the bug.
[09:06] <intelikey> goliath23 i'm not the one to answer that actually.
[09:06] <goliath23> MotorCitymadMan: does navigating to "devices" in konqueror also take you just to /media?
[09:06] <goliath23> intelikey: ok
[09:06] <intelikey> jucato you know ?
[09:06] <intelikey> !bug
[09:06] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[09:06] <orient2000> pielgrzym> co tam w Polsce sie dzeje? Nikt nie uzywa linuxa?
[09:07] <pielgrzym> orient2000: eee uzywa ;)
[09:07] <Jucato> huh?
[09:07] <MotorCitymadMan> goliath23@ just ? not sure. i always use the shell
[09:07] <Jucato> sorry I was afk intelikey
 any hint on providing more detailed info on this one? certain  kde/konqueror logs?
[09:07] <intelikey> Jucato ^
[09:08] <Jucato> bugs.kde.org would be your best bet
[09:08] <goliath23> MotorCitymadMan: in kde 3.5.4 it would take you to media:/ ..
[09:09] <MotorCitymadMan> have you tryed ?
[09:09] <goliath23> Jucato: yes, probably. I think its kde related. but it might be that its a kde bug only surfacing in kubuntu.. well I take another look at bugs.kde.org
[09:09] <intelikey> goliath23 Jucato sujests  http://bugs.ubuntu.com/   see if it helps you any.   also of note, https://launchpad.net/
[09:09] <Jucato> intelikey: I didn't suggest bugs.ubuntu.com :P
[09:10] <intelikey> oh ...
[09:10] <intelikey> yes my bad.
[09:10] <intelikey> goliath23 Jucato sujests     bugs.kde.org    ubotu said  http://bugs.ubuntu.com/   see if it helps you any.   also of note, https://launchpad.net/
[09:10] <intelikey> better ?
[09:10] <zardus> sigh... everything i can find about this lilo timestamp mismatch says to install grub :-(
[09:11] <Jucato> lol :)
[09:11] <intelikey> lol
[09:12] <intelikey> timestamp mismatch ???   hmmm maybe install lilo's mbr on all drives.... ?
[09:12] <orient2000> What does it mean lol ?
[09:12] <Jucato> goliath23: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135586
[09:12] <Jucato> orient2000: laugh out loud
[09:12] <Jucato> goliath23: http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2006/10/solution-for-kubuntu-355-and-usb-not.html
[09:13] <zardus> it's the only drive on...
[09:13] <goliath23> Jucato: thanks a lot!
[09:13] <Jucato> goliath23: those were the results of "kde 3.5.5 usb-stick mount" search in kde bugs
[09:14] <goliath23> okay, lazy me. sorry
[09:14] <Jucato> :)
[09:15] <intelikey> zardus i'm sure you've been here. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/7537-lilo-timestamp-mismatch.html
[09:16] <jaime_> porq no kubuntu_es ??
[09:16] <Jucato> !es
[09:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:17] <intelikey> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=112883
[09:18] <intelikey> zardus  hehhe clock set to gmt ?
[09:18] <goliath23> Jucato: thanks, that worked!
[09:19] <Jucato> goliath23: great! :)
[09:21] <goliath23> does anyone know how I get the old konqueror profiles back (for example the "open terminal" entry in the extras menu?
[09:21] <Jucato> goliath23: F8 (embedded terminal) and F4 (separate terminal) ?
[09:22] <goliath23> Jucato: oh, oky
[09:22] <Jucato> goliath23: this, too: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror (but I suggest moving them rather than deleting them, just in case you want the defaults back)
[09:23] <goliath23> ah yes, this one I found already, but it doesn't change the entries in the extras menu
[09:23] <Jucato> extras menu? or extra toolbar?
[09:24] <goliath23> the menu
[09:25] <Jucato> ah. hm.. that I wouldn't know. are you sure you're using the right profile (File Management)?
[09:25] <goliath23> ah okay, it's back now!
[09:25] <goliath23> guess I was using the wrong profile
[09:26] <Jucato> :)
[09:26] <jende> Good morning folks ;-)
[09:27] <Jucato> hi jende! :)
[09:28] <jende> Jucato: howdy, how is your cold?
[09:28] <Jucato> still not gone. but definitely not worse (yet) :)
[09:29] <jende> Jucato: dude has pretty much fu**** up his system;
[09:29] <Jucato> what the?
[09:29] <Jucato> how?
[09:29] <jende> Jucato: he couldn't even reconfigure the Xserver, I haven#t got a bit of an iidea ow did that
[09:30] <Jucato> err... now that's really really bad...
[09:30] <intelikey> HAH!  ~/   is an invalid path in xcdroast.... how stupid can you get and still breath ?
[09:30] <jende> Jucato: yep
[09:30] <Jucato> heh )
[09:31] <MotorCitymadMan> how to load prog's faster http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#prelink
[09:31] <jende> Jucato: fdoving tried to help, but even he hadn't had any success nor an idea
[09:31] <Jucato> whoa?!?! fdoving couldn't solve it? omg!! that is indeed very very bad
[09:31] <intelikey> MotorCitymadMan does it work in the console ?
[09:31] <intelikey> :)
[09:31] <Jucato> I'm not sure prelinking still works nowadays...
[09:32] <jende> Jucato: indeed it is very,very bad...but I guess that dude played a bit of to much with Nvidia and Nvidia beta drivers and simply messed the system up
[09:32] <Jucato> ugh... nvidia beta drivers... :P
[09:33] <jende> Jucato: I told dude not to use any beta stuff, but he didn't I guess
[09:33] <Jucato> oh well :)
[09:34] <jende> Jucato: basically it's dudes own fault if he is not doing what someone tells him
[09:34] <Jucato> it's his freedom anyway :)
[09:35] <jende> Jucato: I brought him into a chroot environment and a dpkg-reconfigure didn't do anything
[09:36] <jende> Jucato: so do I; cause until yesterday I could bring back almost every single system once I had it in chroot
[09:37] <jende> Jucato: fdoving asked him what he did and dude said "a lot, but dunno!"
[09:37] <Jucato> lol
[09:38] <jende> Jucato: remember that dude always wanted to use beryl? He is more than a newb and bery is still pre-alpha...what combination beryl and a newb...lol
[09:39] <jende> intelikey: he is hopeless
[09:39] <Jucato> heh
[09:39] <Jucato> well, he's brave for trying new stuff :)
[09:40] <intelikey> i dont' think he is hopeless but helping him fix a borked boxen seemed hopeless....
[09:40] <jende> Jucato: that's true, but he should simply listen and following the stuff we're telling him
[09:41] <jende> Jucato: instead of trying to find the latest experimental nvidia drivers; just to have a better 3D performance
[09:43] <jende> Jucato: back in a min just getting e a coffee and a smoke *g*
[09:44] <Jucato> heh
[09:44] <Jucato> me too. gonna make some OJ.
[09:44] <Jucato> I'm sure intelikey can handle everything in here for a few minutes :P
[09:44] <intelikey> what the Krap.  why is *buntu distributing "ALPHA" software ?    xcdroast version is  0.98alpha15    i assume that alpha means alpha  ???????
[09:45] <intelikey> ?
[09:46] <jende> intelikey: maybe it's got something to do with jrg schilling as his tools are not anymore under GPL?Maybe?
[09:46] <jende> intelikey: nope, that wouldn't mmake sense, really. would it?
[09:47] <intelikey> but alpha ?   isn't there a stable ?     no not really it wouldn't.
[09:47] <jende> intelikey: as much as I knnow - no xcdroast has been always alpha
[09:47] <thoreauputic> intelikey: xcdroast is kind of old school - any reason you need it?
[09:48] <jende> intelikey: and it's quite tricky...for newbs not a go...I'd say
[09:48] <intelikey> it's distributed in the normal ubuntu repos on the LTS release as alpha   hehhe
[09:49] <intelikey> jende what's quite tricky ?
[09:49] <momal> bandwidth manager on linux anyone know a good one to use ?... easy to set up and use that works
[09:49] <intelikey> thoreauputic i always liked xcdroast.    it even works where k3 fails for me.
[09:49] <jende> intelikey: ah well, you have to play a fair bit in systemfiles, because most recent cd-drives wont be detected.
[09:50] <thoreauputic> intelikey: true, it seems reliable ( i used to use it but gnomebaker and k3b work for me now)
[09:50] <intelikey> just modprobe ide-scsi jende
[09:50] <jende> intelikey: I hadn't had a problem, but a person like dude
[09:50] <Jucato> anyone know of a good GUI bandwidth monitor for XP?
[09:51] <intelikey> for xp !
[09:51] <Jucato> what you didn't know I've been using XP exclusively for 3 days now :)
[09:51] <momal> Jucato: Du super Controler (only 1 L) is fairly good... for xp >_<
[09:51] <jende> Jucato: what is xp?
[09:51] <Jucato> it's really exciting :P
[09:51] <momal> anyone know good one for linux ?
[09:52] <jende> momal: wondershape but it hasnt got a gui
[09:52] <Jucato> momal: the only ones I know of is KNemo and KNetStat. I'm not sure how easy they are to setup/use though
[09:53] <momal> jende: is wondershape easy to use ?.. gui doesn't really concern me if i can just do something like port 12345 and have speed settings up/down on them
[09:53] <momal> jucato: thanks will have a look at them
[09:53] <intelikey> momal apt-cache search <phrase/name/or/string>       can be filtered real easy with  | grep -e "<what to display>"
[09:54] <momal> lol i have looked but im asking if anyone has used one that is good and can say use that :p
[09:54] <Jucato> or "apt:/" in Konqueror gives you a nice GUI interface to both apt-cache and packages.ubuntu.com
[09:54] <intelikey> prolly just as faster than adapt > search
[09:55] <Jucato> intelikey: well, not really. Konqueror starts up faster than Adept :P
[09:55] <intelikey> reread ^
[09:55] <jende> intelikey: momal, I'd say wondershape is quite easy to handle, but I haven't uused for a long time
[09:55] <Jucato> ah ok... I misread "faster" :P
[09:56] <momal> can Knemo change bandwidth usage? from the look of the description it only shows how much traffic is been used
[09:56] <intelikey> :)
[09:56] <Jucato> momal: err.. sorry, no
[09:56] <Jucato> isn't bandwidth usage something that depends from app to app?
[09:56] <johannes> So, who's good at how to get a Canon MP C80 printer to work with Kubuntu? :)
[09:57] <jende> Jucato: with wondershape you can limit the usage of the bandwidth for each user
[09:57] <Jucato> jende: aah..
[09:58] <jende> Jucato: it makes sense in situations where a bunch of people have to share one dsl account, i.e
[09:58] <Jucato> yeah, it does make sense
[09:58] <intelikey> thoreauputic and jende, late note on the xcdroast thing ^  my cd burner is an scsi drive  so any burner is "like totally, so..."   :)
[09:58] <momal> jende: can you use it to set certain ports to limit bw on ?
[09:58] <intelikey> or burner-soft    that^
[09:59] <jende> momal: puuuh...I think you could do that, but I'm not quite sure as it is really a long time ago that I had o use it
[09:59] <intelikey> i may have old hardware. but it was top notch.
[09:59] <jende> momal: puuuh...I think you could do that, but I'm not quite sure as it is really a long time ago that I had to use it
[09:59] <Jucato> ah Friendster... I love it when my friends use layouts/profiles that either do not render properly in other browsers, or simply works in IE exclusively :)
[10:00] <momal> jende: arr ok i'll have alookies at it thanks
[10:00] <jende> momal: have fun
[10:00] <intelikey> Jucato or don't scale to window size...  being a console user that agrivates me
[10:01] <Jucato> that too
[10:01] <intelikey> side scrolling m3b  hehhe
[10:03] <intelikey> s/m3b/w3m/    ooops
[10:04] <Jucato> I was wondering what m3b meant. lol
[10:04] <intelikey> yeah typo....
[10:04] <intelikey> off home key
[10:06] <intelikey> i used to type about 10 words a minute  with one fingure   now i type with all ten about 85 words but some are totally unrecognizable
[10:06] <intelikey> :)
[10:06] <jende> :-)
[10:06] <Jucato> heheheh :P
[10:06] <cpk2> the worst is when you type tons and then realize your fingers were to the right or left by one
[10:07] <intelikey> been there.
[10:07] <Jucato> yeah I've done that a couple of times
[10:07] <intelikey> hVWBR QW kk
[10:08] <Jucato> hehe
[10:08] <intelikey> or havent we all     in example format
[10:08] <Jucato> damn colds making me drowsy..
[10:08] <intelikey> yeah and the cold meds compound that
[10:08] <WitchSword> heya ppl
[10:09] <Jucato> yeah....
[10:09] <intelikey> well they always did for me.  i haven't taken anything in 10 years
[10:09] <Jucato> wow. you must be really really healthy then...
[10:09] <intelikey> idk
[10:10] <intelikey> not really, i just don't get sick.
[10:10] <intelikey> :)
[10:10] <WitchSword> i have just intalled kubuntu everything works nice on my hp nx6110 laptop but i need software for graphics designing and web designing can anybody help me
[10:10] <Jucato> anyway, see guys around in a while :)
[10:10] <momal> 10 years hmm only thing i have had in that time was an ear infection lol.. nothing else lol
[10:10] <tristan> hi there
[10:10] <tristan> Now that I moved to beryl from compiz my K menu is not transparent anymore, how can I get this back
[10:11] <momal> tristan: not the place to ask... goto #beryl and ask :)
[10:11] <intelikey> WitchSword looked at quanta+  and maybe  kdevelop ?
[10:12] <maryen> whee! RC1 comes out today!!!
[10:12] <momal> WitchSword: Gimp is alright for graphic's design you can check that out as well
[10:12] <intelikey> WitchSword i don't do webdevelopment things so if that's not even close ask someone that has a clue.
[10:13] <intelikey> yeah gimp for the pic's
[10:13] <WitchSword> but gimp is not on the cd momal
[10:13] <momal> I dont' think its big to download
[10:13] <momal> !gimp
[10:13] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[10:13] <WitchSword> ty
[10:13] <intelikey> !info gimp
[10:13] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2712 kB, installed size 7648 kB
[10:13] <momal> 2.7mb :D
[10:13] <CVirus> !log
[10:13] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[10:18] <xiao4> hello all~
[10:19] <jende> WitchSword: gimp is damn cool
[10:23] <WitchSword> mmmmmmmmm another question
[10:24] <WitchSword> i got mp3's but amarok doesn't play it do i need a codec?
[10:24] <CVirus> !mp3
[10:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:24] <CVirus> WitchSword: ^
[10:24] <jende> WitchSword: yep, libxine-extracodecs
[10:24] <WitchSword> wow!!!! coool
[10:25] <WitchSword> !mp3
[10:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:25] <WitchSword> coooool
[10:26] <intelikey> -  But please use free formats if you can:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:26] <jende> intelikey: whoa, I just got a note from ubotu that I should keep the channel family-friendly. funny though, cause I didn't say anything family unfriendly. did I
[10:28] <WitchSword> erm jende i didn't see anything
[10:28] <jende> WitchSword: me neither...:-)
[10:29] <intelikey> idk depends on the familey i guess.
[10:29] <WitchSword> lol
[10:30] <jende> intelikey: lol
[10:30] <WitchSword> ok so i need to convert all my mp3's to ogg eish
[10:30] <WitchSword> this sounds like more work
[10:30] <intelikey> could be scripted...
[10:31] <WitchSword> mp3's are restricted
[10:31] <WitchSword> what do u mean by scripted?
[10:31] <jende> WitchSword: some stereos (esp carstereos) dont play oggs
[10:31] <intelikey> for this in <dir/full/of/mp3's> ;do <your.comverter> $this ;done
[10:31] <jende> WitchSword: you can write a script and the script is converting all files
[10:33] <intelikey> actually i havent seen a car sterio that played mp3....  but that don't mean much.
[10:33] <jende> intelikey: mine does its a Blaupunkt and wasnt even expensive
[10:33] <jende> intelikey: and my dad has a pioneer and it plays mp3's, too
[10:34] <dude> hello jende
[10:34] <sebsoon> clear
[10:34] <jende> dude: how are you, how ist your xserver?
[10:34] <dude> jende: cool : )
[10:35] <dude> tnx
[10:35] <WitchSword> !ogg
[10:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:35] <jende> dude: could your X-drama get solved last nite?
[10:35] <dude> jende: yes....hehehe
[10:35] <jende> dude: how?
[10:36] <dude> jende: reconfiguartion of x server
[10:36] <jende> dude: so, you had a misspelling?
[10:37] <dude> jende: yes...my mistake, first time in linux
[10:37] <jende> dude: so, morghanhoenix and I were on the right track to get yoou and your box back to live
[10:37] <sebsoon> Hello.
[10:38] <jende> sebsoon: hi
[10:38] <sebsoon> give me channel french plz
[10:38] <rlj> i am having trouble with keyboard layouts in kde under dapper. my Xorg is set to use a swedish layout which works fine. however, as i'm currently doing work in romania, i'd like to be able to type those chars once in a while. i set up the kde systray applet, but changing to romanian results in a us keyboard map instead. setting to e.g. norwegian works fine and i can type their chars so i think the romanian layout is simply nonexistent or buggy. any ideas how to i
[10:38] <jende> !fr
[10:38] <dude> jende: exactly, thanks to guys...big help
[10:38] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:38] <dude> jende: exactly, thanks to u guys...big help
[10:39] <jende> dude: cool, if everything worked out for you
[10:41] <jende> rlj: I guess that you have to change your locales, too
[10:41] <sebsoon> :)
[10:42] <jende> rlj: type in a console:"sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and see whether there is romania or not in it
[10:42] <jende> sebsoon: have fun...;-)
[10:43] <sebsoon> :)
[10:44] <rlj> jende: the result of that is that all are up to date and those include only like 10 variants or en_ as well as ro_RO.UTF-8. there is no swedish locale there though which surprises me a bit
[10:44] <jende> rlj: you know pastebin?
[10:45] <jende> !pastebin
[10:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:45] <rlj> jende: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27190/
[10:46] <rlj> jende: as i do have working swedish layout even in VTs
[10:48] <dude> jende: can u suggest some application of kubuntu
[10:48] <rlj> jende: even russian layout seems to work (get russian chars when i type). so i think it might be a romania-specific locale bug
[10:49] <jende> rlj: is kde-i18-ro installed?
[10:50] <jende> rlj: is kde-i18n-ro installed?
[10:50] <jende> dude: what kind of app?
[10:50] <dude> jende: utilities
[10:50] <jende> dude: what kind of utilities?
[10:51] <rlj> jende: no.
[10:51] <jende> rlj: without that it wont work, I guess
[10:51] <rlj> jende: but neither is the respective i18n packages for norwegian, syrian, russian either..
[10:52] <rlj> jende: loads of other layouts work fine out of the box. it's just the romanian one it seems that results in US instead
[10:52] <jende> rlj: as much as google told me, you'll need that otherwise...dunno if I'm right here, but it might be worth trying
[10:52] <dude> jende: can i run adobe photoshop in ubuntu?
[10:52] <jende> dude: nope
[10:52] <jende> dude: get gimp instead
[10:52] <rlj> jende: as far as i know kde-i18n-XX only has the kde translation files for the respective language
[10:53] <rlj> jende: i even tried syrian layout (which is right-to-left) and it worked out of the box with the systray applet. so i don't think it's a matter of uninstalled packages because then those would not work either
[10:53] <jende> rlj: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-i18n-ro/2006-February/000087.html
[10:54] <dude> jende: ok, how do i upgeade my KDE
[10:54] <dude> ?
[10:54] <rlj> jende: sorry, my romanian isn't *quite* that sophisticated as of yet ;)
[10:55] <jende> rlj: http://www.debian.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=2&showtopic=510
[10:55] <jende> dude: ALT+F2 sudo apt-get install gimp
[10:56] <jende> !ro
[10:56] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.
[10:56] <rlj> jende: that might be worth a shot though
[10:56] <dude> jende: y gimp?
[10:56] <dude> jende: ok, how do i upgeade my KDE
[10:57] <jende> dude: instead of using Adobe PS get, as I just said, Gimp using apt
[10:57] <jende> rlj: hope it'll help
[10:57] <dude> ok
[10:57] <dude> jende: ok, how do i upgeade my KDE
[10:57] <dude> !kde
[10:57] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:58] <jende> dude: you have to give me a bit more than just utilities to tell you how you can upggrade yoour KDE, you know
[10:59] <jende> dude: if you go to the section add/remove programs in the system menu you'll find already a bunch of K-Apps
[11:01] <jende> dude: and?
[11:01] <jende> dude: whatelse you can do is that you browse www.kde.org
[11:08] <jende> dude: whatelse you can do is that you browse www.kde.org
[11:08] <mrcreativ> i need help connecting to the internet
[11:09] <jende> mrcreativ: what is your problem?how do you connect?via dsl/broadband?
[11:09] <mrcreativ> i have a dsl modem...
[11:09] <jende> mrcreativ: keep telling
[11:09] <mrcreativ> alright...it works fine with windows and everything
[11:10] <mrcreativ> its only ive been having trrouble connecting with kubuntu
[11:10] <mrcreativ> i have made the partition and everything, i just need to know if i can connect before i install.
[11:10] <mrcreativ> i installed it once on my aptop already,
[11:11] <jende> mrcreativ: nope
[11:11] <mrcreativ> nope?
[11:12] <jende> mrcreativ: the interface needs to be get loaded after the kernel has been loaded, so you will have to have either a LiveCD, such as Dapper which will
[11:12] <mrcreativ> i have a live cd, and i think its dapper drake.
[11:12] <jende> then try to get a connection to the Inet using DHCP
[11:12] <mrcreativ> i have booted as live,
[11:13] <mrcreativ> can u help me to connect using DHCP
[11:13] <jende> mrcreativ: make sure that DHCP is enabled in the modem/router
[11:13] <mrcreativ> it has been enabled
[11:13] <jende> mrcreativ: and you've connection to the net?
[11:13] <mrcreativ> not thru kubuntu no
[11:14] <jende> mrcreativ: open a console using ALT+F2
[11:14] <mrcreativ> done
[11:15] <jende> mrcreativ: and then type ifconfig
[11:15] <mrcreativ> ok
[11:15] <jende> has ifconfig configured an eth0 device?
[11:16] <mrcreativ> there is a bunch if stuff listed next to eth0. how do i know if its been configured or not
[11:16] <momal> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/207903 <-- how do i go about doing that i have 2.6.15-27-386 kernel on
[11:16] <jende> mrcreativ: do you know pastebin?
[11:17] <mrcreativ> i dont think so...but i dont think i can paste, because im using a laptop and working on kubuntu which is on my pc
[11:17] <mrcreativ> wait...i may be able to save it as a text file one sec...
[11:17] <jende> no
[11:17] <jende> !pastebin
[11:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:17] <jende> mrcreativ: please paste and copy the output of ifconfig to pastebin
[11:18] <jende> momal: what do you mean?I just don't get it
[11:18] <momal> how do i configure the kernel for those options
[11:19] <momal> i tried make menuconfig in the kernel source folder but didn't find those settings :S
[11:19] <dude_> jende: whats the difference between Kofice and openoffice?
[11:20] <mrcreativ> jende...done
[11:20] <jende> mrcreativ: have you pastebin the output?If so, I need the URL given to you by pastebin
[11:20] <jende> mrcreativ: to find your posting
[11:21] <mrcreativ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27191/
[11:21] <jende> momal:...hmmm...
[11:22] <jende> dude_: nothing much, one prefers the Koffice style the other one openoffice.org - it's a question of taste
[11:22] <WitchSword> laters ppl
[11:22] <dude_> jende: are you using KDE?
[11:23] <jende> mrcreativ: okay, do you have the ip address of your router?
[11:23] <jende> dude_: yes
[11:23] <dude_> jende: what's version?
[11:23] <mrcreativ> but isnt it a dynamic address?
[11:23] <dude_> jende: 3.5.5?
[11:23] <jende> dude_: 3.5.5
[11:23] <jende> mrcreativ: nope, the router something like 192.168.2.1
[11:23] <mrcreativ> u mean the address that i use to configure the router?
[11:23] <mrcreativ> yeah...
[11:23] <mrcreativ> i have that
[11:24] <dude_> jende: how do i check the version of my KDE?
[11:24] <jende> okay, then let us see if you have a bit of a route: type "route" at the konsole
[11:24] <momal> dude_: if your on konversation just goto help>about kde
[11:24] <jvdv> Hi, Jende, do remember me from earlier this week?
[11:25] <jende> jvdv: I do
[11:25] <jvdv> I could my Internet from my Kubuntu machine running
[11:25] <jvdv> Thks for your help
[11:25] <jende> dude_: open an app, like k3B and open the About section in it there will be a point!About KDE"
[11:26] <mrcreativ> jende...i type route, what am i looking for
[11:26] <jende> jvdv: glad to help you
[11:26] <dude_> jende: ok, tnx, its 3.5.2, how do i upgrade?
[11:26] <jende> dude_: YOU don't upgrade!
[11:26] <dude_> jende: ?
[11:27] <jende> dude_: you may want to upgrade i  2 weeks time to edgy once it is in stable
[11:27] <dude_> jende: ok, copy
[11:27] <dude_> jende: thnx
[11:27] <momal> will edgy have kde 3.5.5 on it by default?
[11:27] <jende> dude_: dont mix your system, okay
[11:27] <jende> momal: yes
[11:27] <dude_> jende: hehehe ok...
[11:27] <mrcreativ> jende...
[11:28] <jende> mrcreativ: there should be 2 lines,
[11:28] <mrcreativ> yeah
[11:28] <mrcreativ> kernel ip routing table
[11:28] <dude_> momal: i should not use beryl 4 the meantime,
[11:28] <mrcreativ> and the second line says destination, gateway, genmask, flags,
[11:28] <jende> mrcreativ: in the last one it should say in the section router the address of your router. If not we have to try to
[11:28] <mrcreativ> it says nothing...no numbers
[11:28] <momal> dude_: oh?
[11:29] <jende> momal: dude is a total newb and beryl is still in prealpha
[11:29] <jende> mrcreativ: type route add default gw <the ip of your router>
[11:30] <dude_> momal: it might crash my system again, hehehe, i dont wana install the whole system again, maybe i'll wait
[11:30] <momal> hehe... probably just something small killing it :p
[11:31] <mrcreativ> operation nor supported
[11:31] <mindspin> sudo
[11:31] <jende> mrcreativ: type sudo route add default gw <the ip of your router>
[11:31] <jende> mindspin: ;-)
[11:31] <dude_> as of now, im still  still learning linux
[11:31] <mrcreativ> network is unreachable
[11:31] <dude_> long way to go
[11:32] <jende> mrcreativ: type sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.101
[11:32] <jende> mrcreativ: type sudo route add default gw <the ip of your router>
[11:32] <jende> mrcreativ: and the type sudo route
[11:32] <micra> Hi. I have 2 sound cards i my computer, how do i choose between them?
[11:33] <mrcreativ> network is unreachable
[11:33] <mrcreativ> huh...route shows something now...
[11:34] <jende> mrcreativ: pastebin it
[11:34] <mrcreativ> destination is 192.168.2.0
[11:34] <jende> mrcreativ: pastebin the output of route, don't do it in here, okay
[11:35] <mindspin> !paste
[11:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:35] <mrcreativ> yeah, but wait, whats the easiset way
[11:35] <mrcreativ> i cant paste from the linux machine because there is no network remember?
[11:36] <jende> mrcreativ: just open pastebin using the URL http://pastebin-nl.org and write it down the way you see it on your Kubuntu machine
[11:37] <mrcreativ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27193/
[11:38] <jende> mrcreativ: how is your box connected to the router?
[11:38] <mrcreativ> ethernet cable
[11:39] <jende> and the router is supposed to have more than box connected?
[11:39] <mrcreativ> what exactly do u mean supposed to have? yeah, its a wireless gateway router...with 4 lan connections and wireless
[11:40] <mrcreativ> windows works perfectly
[11:40] <jende> mrcreativ: but not with a LiveCD...;-)
[11:40] <mrcreativ> nope...
[11:40] <mrcreativ> so...u think i need to install?
[11:41] <momal> any way i could make my whole kubuntu box run through a proxy? so everything uses the proxy no matter what.. all programs, console apps etc
[11:41] <jende> mrcreativ: okay, is the IP 192.168.x.x of your router the right one you've given the route add?
[11:41] <mrcreativ> yeap
[11:42] <jende> mrcreativ: try that:ping 192.168.x.x
[11:42] <jende> momal: was that a question or a statement?
[11:43] <mrcreativ> no response
[11:44] <momal> jende: question ^^
[11:44] <jende> mrcreativ: okay, it seems to be that you cant give manual routes while you are on a LiveSystem
[11:44] <jende> mrcreativ: sorry, mate
[11:44] <mrcreativ> ok...so u think i should install
[11:44] <mrcreativ> let me install then
[11:44] <jende> momal: basically, yes you are able to make a proxy out of your Kubuntu box
[11:45] <jende> mrcreativ: yep you will have to install it though
[11:45] <mrcreativ> let me try installing it...will u be online for longer?
[11:45] <Snifouille> Hey there
[11:45] <momal> oo no not the question lol.. umm how can i make every program im using on my kubuntu box eg if i use apt-get or kopete or any program on the box it will auto make it goto a specific proxy... so it kinda makes any net traffic use the proxy
[11:46] <morghanphoenix> what's the command to change ownership of a path? my usb drive seems to be owned by root and I can't copy to it for backup.
[11:46] <rysiek|pl> guys, need a wee bit o'help here
[11:46] <momal> morghanpheonix: sudo chown user.group filename
[11:46] <mrcreativ> who doesnt
[11:47] <momal> morghanpheonix: command is | chown try chown --help for more info :)
[11:47] <Snifouille> I'm new to ubuntu, and I'm trying to copy files from ntfs partition to a fat 32 one... The problem is that I'm on the live cd, and i can't mount my ntfs partition (when I try to mount it tells me that it is already mounted or something like that...)
[11:47] <jende> !ntfs
[11:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:48] <Snifouille> On the Live CD, I know how to mount partitions (command mount or fstab) but here I'm on the Live CD...
[11:48] <morghanphoenix> changing ownership of `sda1': Operation not permitted
[11:48] <morghanphoenix> something different for a path?
[11:48] <jende> Snifouille: I guess that wont work while you're just with the LiveCD
[11:49] <rysiek|pl> my friend on Kubuntu Edgy is experiencing some strange issues with the XServer: X's crashed once and he's unable to log into KDE - everytime he tries X's crash. rebooting, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't help. whatismore, he has this in the .xsession-errors file: http://wklej.org/id/ecc5fa3986 any ideas?
[11:49] <mrcreativ> jende...ok, its installing now
[11:49] <jende> rysiek|pl: that's why edgy hasn't been released yet
[11:50] <morghanphoenix> lin1029kde5150
[11:50] <Snifouille> jende: okay... :(
[11:50] <jende> rysiek|pl: it's still buggy, but that is something your friend should know if he goes along with an unstable system:It may crash from time to time
[11:51] <rysiek|pl> jende: yeah, he knows. but we though there might be some solution. especially taken into account that he had exactly the same problem with Dapper
[11:51] <rysiek|pl> jende: and it's not "crashing from time to time", it's "crashed once, crashes every time since" :)
[11:51] <jende> rysiek|pl: maybe it's worth then to open a Bugreport
[11:52] <t0taln00b> yo
[11:52] <rysiek|pl> jende: sure, just wanted to ask here, didn't want to bugrep something that's been solved this way or another
[11:52] <jende> rysiek|pl: and also I would ask the folks on the xserver site if they heard about that problem and if they know a solution
[11:53] <jende> rysiek|pl: good on ya...
[11:53] <rysiek|pl> morghanphoenix: I think you might have given us your user's password, you might want to change it ;)
[11:53] <rysiek|pl> jende: ok, thanks
[11:53] <morghanphoenix> Allready done
[11:53] <jende> rysiek|pl: no worries, you're welcome
[11:54] <t0taln00b> if i enable compositing manager from kde control center i get those nifty effects such as transparency and so on
[11:54] <t0taln00b> but ..
[11:54] <morghanphoenix> so, anyone on how to change ownership of paths?
[11:54] <t0taln00b> beryl doesnt work this way =(
[11:55] <t0taln00b> can anyone help me plz =)
[11:55] <morghanphoenix> says not permitted shen I chown
[11:55] <jende> t0taln00b: ehm...you know that beryl is in pre-alpha and it wont be suppoerted in here?
[11:55] <rysiek|pl> t0taln00b: gimme a sec, I'll give you a howto that worked for me
[11:55] <t0taln00b> =)
[11:55] <t0taln00b> thx
[11:55] <rysiek|pl> t0taln00b: you're Dapper or Edgy?
[11:55] <momal> t0taln00b: goto #beryl
[11:56] <t0taln00b> edgy
[11:56] <jende> rysiek|pl: thats not the irc for beryl probs
[11:56] <t0taln00b> i have dapper tooo
[11:56] <rysiek|pl> jende: right
[11:56] <rysiek|pl> t0taln00b: register your user with freenode so that we could talk mon priv
[11:57] <rysiek|pl> t0taln00b: or go here: #t0taln00bandrysiek
[11:57] <t0taln00b> k
[11:57] <jende> morghanphoenix: pastebin your fstab and mtab
[11:58] <jende> momal: isnt that weird...newbs gambling around with beryl
[11:58] <momal> hehe
[11:58] <morghanphoenix> sda1 isn't in it
[11:58] <jende> morghanphoenix: so, now you know what to do.don't you
[11:59] <t0taln00b> it's just my nick though
[11:59] <momal> Compiz probly got a lot of people to try out linux lol so now they want beryl since compiz is kinda broken and old lol
[11:59] <t0taln00b> im not so t0tal n00b
[11:59] <morghanphoenix> I didn't think removables were supposed to be in fstab?
[12:00] <jende> t0taln00b: it is pre-alpha that means it has moved into experimental
[12:01] <mrcreativity> jende...
[12:01] <mrcreativity> u there?
[12:01] <jende> morghanphoenix: it depends
[12:01] <jende> mrcreativity: yes
[12:02] <jende> morghanphoenix: you want to make a backup is that all?
[12:02] <mrcreativity> good...installation is done.
[12:02] <maryen> its funny that compiz is considered old now
[12:02] <mrcreativity> restarting now
[12:02] <morghanphoenix> yeah, just dropping stuff on the external.
[12:02] <t0taln00b> 0000dd thing is that when i disable compositing mng from kcc beryl works but redrawing is as bit laggy =(
[12:02] <maryen> makes me feel old
[12:03] <jende> morghanphoenix: lets see if you can make it on the console
[12:03] <mrcreativity> jende...its possible to configure the boot manager right?
[12:03] <jende> mrcreativity: yep
[12:03] <mrcreativity> good. somehow, SUSE feels a lot easier to cofngire
[12:03] <morghanphoenix> I've been using the console
[12:03] <jende> morghanphoenix:as sudo?
[12:03] <momal> maryen: hmm not really old but more like.... outdated probably better word to use
[12:04] <morghanphoenix> Even tried -r for the path and all files are "not permitted"
[12:04] <morghanphoenix> yes
[12:05] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: you are trying to delete files?
[12:05] <jende> morghanphoenix: type sudo apt-cache search rsnapshot
[12:05] <mrcreativity> jende...
[12:05] <jende> cpk2: nope, she is trying to copy files onto sda1
[12:05] <jende> mrcreativity: yep
[12:05] <morghanphoenix> okay
[12:05] <mrcreativity> done...now what do i do
[12:06] <morghanphoenix> sloacare rsnapshot
[12:06] <cpk2> sudo mv doesnt work eh?
[12:06] <jende> mrcreativity: did your internet got configured?
[12:06] <cpk2> whats the filesystem on sda1?
[12:07] <jende> cpk2: its a usb
[12:07] <mrcreativity> jende...no m8
[12:07] <jende> mrcreativity: thats weird
[12:07] <cpk2> so whats the file system on sda1?
[12:07] <dhq> how do i use wget to get all the files in my server
[12:07] <dhq> !wget
[12:07] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 225 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[12:08] <cpk2> dhq: man wget =)
[12:08] <morghanphoenix> nope, mv doesn't work
[12:08] <dhq> cpk2: no whats the command
[12:08] <jende> dhq: man wget telly you all about
[12:08] <momal> dhq: type | man wget | and have lookies should be in there about downloading everything :p
[12:09] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: mv as sudo? is the sda1 file system ext3?
[12:09] <jende> dhq: if you want to make an upload you may want to use krusader or konqi
[12:09] <morghanphoenix> no, ext3 to ntfs, the ntfs is mounted as root
[12:09] <dhq> wget -r -c  i used it but it only downloads html and gif files
[12:09] <cpk2> hrmm
[12:09] <cpk2> !fuse
[12:09] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:09] <jende> mrcreativity: came an errormsg while Kubuntu tried to set your network
[12:10] <momal> a usb drive in ntfs that be a first I seen that i only ever see them been used with fat32 :p
[12:10] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: are you using fuse?
[12:11] <morghanphoenix> not that I know of.
[12:11] <morghanphoenix> no idea what that is.
[12:11] <morghanphoenix> Drive came from my win2k install
[12:11] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: and ntfs might not be the best idea for an external drive =P
[12:11] <thoreauputic> morghanphoenix: writing to ntfs is not supported without risky extra stuff
[12:11] <jende> cpk2: its prolly the worse to use
[12:11] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: do you still need it to be compatible with windows?
[12:12] <morghanphoenix> Yes
[12:12] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: you might want to consider ext2 or fat32
[12:12] <morghanphoenix> School. work and girlfriend's computer. I'm the only linux box around.
[12:12] <jende> morghanphoenix: can you reformat it to fat32?
[12:12] <mrcreativity> jende...
[12:12] <cpk2> ext2 might even be better
[12:12] <jende> mrcreativity: yes
[12:13] <cpk2> but I am not sure how hard it is to get windows to use ext2
[12:13] <mrcreativity> help
[12:13] <jende> mrcreativity: you didnt get my question, did you
[12:13] <morghanphoenix> not without losing 60gb worth of data, can probably back it up onto a win machine's hdd and get it back later
[12:13] <mrcreativity> no....
[12:13] <morghanphoenix> but that'd be a leavit it transfering overnight thing.
[12:13] <jende> mrcreativity: came an errormsg while Kubuntu tried to set your network
[12:13] <mrcreativity> u mean the above procedure?
[12:13] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: ok, well we will solve writing to ntfs but keep in mind writing to ntfs from nix is not the safest
[12:14] <cpk2> and you risk corrupting data
[12:14] <morghanphoenix> okay, I gotta go for a sec
[12:14] <mrcreativity> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.101?
[12:14] <morghanphoenix> be back in a bit
[12:14] <jende> mrcreativity: no, I mean usually Kubuntu telly you while it is installing if he could get connected to the INet or not
[12:15] <jende> mrcreativity: no, I mean usually Kubuntu tells you while it is installing if he could get connected to the INet or not
[12:15] <jende> mrcreativity: in the installation process the latest updates will be downloaded
[12:16] <mrcreativity> no...
[12:16] <morghanphoenix> Okay, going to try something real fast before doing this, I don't want to lose all that stuff if I screw up. Just thought of something else, be back in a bit, hopefully to say nevermind.
[12:16] <mrcreativity> it just said security updates could not be downloded
[12:16] <jende> mrcreativity: so, that is an errormessage
[12:17] <mrcreativity> kinda
[12:18] <mrcreativity> so...
[12:18] <jende> mrcreativity: basically what it tells you is that Kubuntu couldn't onto your router or that your NIC couldn't get recognized
[12:18] <mrcreativity> yes
[12:18] <jende> mrcreativity: what kind of a NIC is it?
[12:18] <mrcreativity> nic?
[12:18] <mrcreativity> well...i think its an nvidia
[12:18] <jende> NIC=Network Interface Card
[12:19] <mrcreativity> i know...
[12:19] <mrcreativity> its an nvidia
[12:20] <mrcreativity> jende...
[12:20] <jende> mrcreativity: i just asked google
[12:20] <jende> mrcreativity: bad news mate, nvidia's fast gigabit ethernet is not quite supported
[12:20] <mrcreativity> oh...
[12:20] <mrcreativity> im screwed
[12:20] <mrcreativity> anyway...
[12:20] <jende> mrcreativity: wait a sec
[12:21] <morghanphoenix> Okay, what's the tag for mount that defines the owner?
[12:22] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: what filesystem?
[12:22] <morghanphoenix> I just want to try a manual mount since it's not automounting anymore.
[12:22] <morghanphoenix> should be ntfs, but may be fat32, I could've been wrong.
[12:22] <morghanphoenix> how do I check the file system?
[12:23] <mrcreativity> im leaving. i couldnt configure it on my laptop, and its not working on my desktop
[12:23] <mrcreativity> jende...thanks for all ur help m8
[12:23] <morghanphoenix> but definatly one of those two.
[12:23] <mrcreativity> adios
[12:23] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: mount /dev/hdX /mountpoint -o uid=username
[12:24] <jende> fdoving: howdy
[12:24] <fdoving> hi jende.
[12:25] <morghanphoenix> must specify the filesystem type
[12:25] <morghanphoenix> how do I check that on an unmounted device?
[12:25] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: mount -t auto /dev/hdX /mountpoint -o uid=username
[12:25] <fdoving> then.
[12:25] <jende> fdoving: dude told me that it was, as you thought, a misspelling prob
[12:25] <fdoving> jende, ok :)
[12:26] <morghanphoenix> you must specify a file system type
[12:26] <fdoving> ok, try with -t vfat
[12:27] <fdoving> if it doesn't work, try with -t ntfs
[12:27] <fdoving> i thought auto did the job.
[12:27] <morghanphoenix> decice does not exist?
[12:28] <jende> fdoving: shouldn't it be in morghanphoenix's case /dev/sda1
[12:28] <morghanphoenix> I changed it
[12:28] <fdoving> you have to figure that out yourself. :)
[12:29] <Electrolyte> Can someone explain to me how to disable gam_server?
[12:29] <Electrolyte> It's really starting to annoy me with it's blasted CPU usage.
[12:29] <Electrolyte> google isn't giving me very good results :/
[12:29] <morghanphoenix> I learned that one after putting a new file system on my home partition form cut and paste directly from irc
[12:29] <fdoving> Electrolyte: put 'fsset ext3 notify' at the end of /etc/gamin/gaminrc
[12:29] <Electrolyte> Thanks.
[12:29] <morghanphoenix> always check the paths
[12:30] <fdoving> Electrolyte: that's if you have ext3 filesystems only. make an additional line for each of your filesystem types, and it will not bother you anymore.
[12:30] <Electrolyte> Only got ext3 :)
[12:30] <Electrolyte> Do I need to kill gam_server for it to detect the change?
[12:30] <fdoving> no, it should work instantly.
[12:30] <Electrolyte> Still using 6% CPU :/
[12:31] <fdoving> you can try to run 'sudo killall -HUP gam_server'
[12:31] <Electrolyte> That worked - CPU usage to 0% :D
[12:31] <morghanphoenix> It gives me the open in new window option when I plug it in, it just doesn't do anything, doesn't even show up as an icon on my desktop
[12:31] <Electrolyte> Thanks!
[12:31] <fdoving> :)
[12:31] <fdoving> you're welcome :)
[12:34] <morghanphoenix> I have only one idea left, use my girl's windows box and winscp to copy it from my computer to hers where the device works.
[12:35] <cpk2> or plug it into her box and find out the file format?
[12:35] <cpk2> err FS
[12:36] <morghanphoenix> how do you do that?
[12:37] <morghanphoenix> fat32, the vfat tag?
[12:39] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: fat32 is vfat in mount/fstab, yes.
[12:40] <morghanphoenix> well, we did that and it said no such device even though it was at /dev/sda1
[12:40] <morghanphoenix> I think I may have screwed something up at some point.
[12:40] <cpk2> are you positive its fat32?
[12:41] <morghanphoenix> That's what windows says, and it should know, right?
[12:41] <morghanphoenix> 80GB FAT32 USB Mass Storage Device.
[12:41] <cpk2> one can only hope...
[12:42] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: what happens when you plug it in? do you get the popup-thing?
[12:42] <morghanphoenix> Yes, but nothing happens when I tell it to open in a new window.
[12:42] <fdoving> oh.
[12:43] <fdoving> what is the output of 'mount' in konsole?
[12:43] <morghanphoenix> I think I may just do a fresh install, I've been meaning to repartition my hard drive anyways.
[12:43] <fdoving> is it there at all?
[12:43] <morghanphoenix> No referance to it, although it mounts as root from sda1
[12:43] <morghanphoenix> I can see it, just can't alter it.
[12:44] <morghanphoenix> Only a 5 hour copy on my girl's computer.
[12:44] <morghanphoenix> I'm glad winscp works
[12:45] <cpk2> 80 gigs should *not* take 5 hours over a direct connection
[12:45] <morghanphoenix> USB 1.0
[12:45] <morghanphoenix> On her box
[12:46] <esas> hi, here i am...
[12:46] <esas> can somebody help me
[12:46] <esas> i cant send something with mailto:
[12:47] <morghanphoenix> browser set up to use your mail program for mailto: links?
[12:47] <esas> in quanta...
[12:47] <esas> what?
[12:47] <dude> what is the comamnd for searching a installed application?
[12:47] <morghanphoenix> In quanta?
[12:47] <jende> dude: sudo apt-cache search
[12:48] <dude> tnx
[12:48] <jende> dude: man apt ;-)
[12:48] <morghanphoenix> I'm going to bed and doing a fresh install in the morning.
[12:48] <morghanphoenix> doesn't apt have --help?
[12:48] <esas> yep
[12:48] <morghanphoenix> much easier to find stuff than man for me.
[12:49] <cpk2> search doesnt tell you if its installed
[12:49] <cpk2> policy will tell you if its installed
[12:49] <esas> that's true
[12:49] <esas> can somebody help me with the mailto: problem
[12:50] <morghanphoenix> I didn't know you sent things by mailto: in quanta.
[12:50] <morghanphoenix> Or am I misunderstanding you?
[12:50] <esas> no, i wrote it in code in quanta
[12:50] <dude> jende: "apt-cache search" command just to show the info of an installed app
[12:50] <morghanphoenix> So it's in a browser? Which one?
[12:50] <esas> firefox, of course
[12:51] <morghanphoenix> Does mailto: work on other sites?
[12:51] <dude> jende: some of the installed app doesnt show on the K menu
[12:51] <JorixB> I use kubuntu 6.06 and when I insert a cd or usb disk then it appears in media:/ but Its not mounted in /media even after I added the cd drives to fstab I still have to right click --> mount on it in media:/ how can I do this automaticly just like suse did.
[12:51] <esas> dunnow
[12:51] <jende> dude: like which?
[12:51] <morghanphoenix> Try it
[12:51] <dude> jende: kbfx
[12:52] <morghanphoenix> If it doesn't you need to set up mailto: in your browser.
[12:52] <esas> like, try it in Konqueror, if it doesn't work...
[12:52] <morghanphoenix> Can't help you with that one, I'd only use firefox if I had a gun to my head.
[12:52] <esas> me too
[12:53] <cpk2> dude: right click the kmenu then go to menu editor and then save it
[12:53] <esas> o misunderstanding
[12:53] <morghanphoenix> but I think konqueror is automatically set up to use kmail, right?
[12:53] <JorixB> damn i get this endless stream of ksnapshots again like a script starting itself
[12:53] <esas> i would only NOT use firefox, if'd gun to my head
[12:53] <morghanphoenix> Did you lean on your print screen key?
[12:53] <jende> dude: kbfx is not supposed to be really in the menu, as much as I remember
[12:54] <dude> jende: before downloading an app, there's an info like: section: universe/kde, what does this mean?
[12:54] <morghanphoenix> I've done that before, took 50+ snapshots.
[12:54] <jende> dude: that is where the repositories are.
[12:55] <esas> what
[12:55] <esas> i triedvit in konqueror:
[12:55] <dude> jende: so how do i run that?
[12:55] <esas> white page
[12:55] <morghanphoenix> I'm gonna play a little rogue and go to bed
[12:55] <jende> dude: run what?
[12:55] <morghanphoenix> See you all tomorrow
[12:55] <esas> error: it can't read it
[12:55] <dude> jende: so how do i search and run that?
[12:55] <dude> kbfx
[12:56] <jende> dude: did you have a look at kbfx?
[12:56] <jende> dude: do you know hat kbfx is?
[12:56] <jende> dude: if not do: sudo apt-cache show kbfx
[12:56] <dude> jende: no idea
[12:57] <jende> dude: do^^^^^^
[12:57] <dude> jende: ohh ok, i forgot the apt command
[12:57] <dude> jende: my mistake agin
[12:57] <jende> dude: no worries
[01:00] <jende> dude: still wanna have it?
[01:01] <dude> jende: never mind... :)
[01:01] <dude> jende: i can't find it
[01:01] <dude> it oks
[01:01] <jende> dude:okay...have you made an sudo apt-cache show kbfx
[01:02] <dude> jende: ya
[01:02] <jende> dude: do this: sudo apt-get clean followed by an sudo apt-get update
[01:03] <jende> dude: otherwise go to www.kbfx.org
[01:03] <_Shade_> i cannot run an application, because i get this message: Unhandled exception: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[01:03] <_Shade_> what can i do to get it work again?
[01:04] <jende> dude: don't give up that quick, mate
[01:04] <jende> !kbfx
[01:04] <ubotu> kbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features
[01:05] <_Shade_> so can i do anything with the /dev/dsp?
[01:08] <jende> _Shade_: what kind of apps you can't run anymore?
[01:10] <wabbit> Hi all. I am using dapper ubuntu and have just compiled and installed the latest alsa 1.0.1.13 driver lib and utils packages following instructions from http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+HD-audio+and+modem.&chip=ICH6%2C+ICH6M%2C+ICH7%2C+ESB2&module=hda-intel but when I cat /pro/asound/version it displays 1.0.10rc3. Am I missing something?
[01:10] <jende> Jucato: hey buddy
[01:10] <Jucato> hi jende :)
[01:11] <dude_> hi jucato
[01:11] <jende> Jucato: where have you been...???
[01:11] <Jucato> oh dude_ you're back
[01:12] <Jucato> jende: I slept :P
[01:13] <dude_> jende: forget kbfx
[01:13] <dude_> :)
[01:15] <jende> Jucato: doin' better now?
[01:15] <Jucato> still no change
[01:15] <Jucato> omg! the bots just walked out...
[01:17] <jende> Jucato: where about are you anyway?
[01:17] <malcolm> I'm having problems with my fd0, it mounted fine, i read from it then i removed the floppy, after i went to read from another floppy it nolonger works, and i can't get it to unmout and remount
[01:17] <Jucato> jende: philippines. P
[01:17] <jende> Jucato: damn...thats a few K's...;-)
[01:17] <Jucato> heheh
[01:17] <Jucato> jende: and you are from where?
[01:17] <fdoving> malcolm: try 'sudo umount -l /dev/fd0' from konsole.
[01:17] <dude_> jucato: where in phils?
[01:18] <jende> lower saxony, germany
[01:18] <Jucato> oh hi fdoving! :)
[01:18] <Jucato> dude_: Laguna.
[01:18] <fdoving> hi jucato. :)
[01:18] <dude_> jucato: makati
[01:18] <dude_> :")] 
[01:18] <Jucato> dude_: hehehe :P
[01:18] <Jucato> jende: not that far :)
[01:19] <jende> Jucato: *ggg*
[01:19] <dude_> ayos
[01:19] <dude_> :)
[01:19] <Jucato> !ph
[01:19] <malcolm> it lets me remount it now even though it when i did umount it told me it wasn't mounted
[01:19] <Jucato> oh the bots are out.. grr....
[01:19] <Fuzzy76> Anyone know how to make links from xchat and kopete open in firefox instead of konqueror?
[01:19] <cpk2> so whats this I hear about "nvidia" driver has some security hole?
[01:19] <dude_> jucato: age pls
[01:20] <Jucato> Fuzzy76: System Settings -> KDE Components -> Default Applications -> Web Browser change to firefox ?
[01:20] <Jucato> dude_: this is not the right place to talk about that :P (23)
[01:20] <jende> cpk2: yep, I read about it, too on e-eye security, I guess
[01:21] <dude_> jucato: ok sorry
[01:21] <Jucato> has anyone confirmed it?
[01:21] <dude_> :
[01:21] <cpk2> confirmed what?
[01:22] <Jucato> the security hole
[01:22] <jende> Jucato: e-eye security has, I guess
[01:22] <cpk2> well #ubuntu seemed pretty sure of it
[01:22] <Jucato> hm...
[01:22] <cpk2> but you know how quickly they move from a topic in there
[01:22] <windshear> hello
[01:22] <windshear> any news on the floppy bug?
[01:23] <windshear> anyone has tried it on edgy with kde 3.5.5?
[01:23] <dude_> this is not a linux question:
[01:23] <fdoving> Jucato: run to the nearest computer store, and buy an ati :)
[01:23] <Jucato> fdoving: no way lol
[01:24] <Fuzzy76> Jucato, didn't help :(
[01:24] <dude_> dont u have plans of organizing an grand  eb? :)
[01:25] <Jucato> dude_: huh?
[01:25] <Jucato> Fuzzy76: still opening in Konqueror?
[01:25] <dude_> kubuntu's Grand EB
[01:25] <dude_> :)
[01:25] <Fuzzy76> Jucato, yes
[01:25] <jende> Fuzzy76: KDE-SYSTEMSETTINGS-STANDARDSOFTWARE-WEBBROWSER
[01:26] <Jucato> dude_: how in the world is that going to happen? we're international you know....
[01:26] <Jucato> jende: that's what I told him
[01:26] <cpk2> ubuntu news/security doesnt say anything about this nvidia thing...
[01:26] <jende> Jucato: it has to work...*grrr*
[01:26] <dude_> just a thought
[01:26] <Jucato> I think Fuzzy76 needs to do "sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser" as well?
[01:26] <jende> cpk2: have you got a link?
[01:26] <cpk2> jende: to...?
[01:27] <Fuzzy76> I'll try
[01:27] <jende> cpk2: to that nvidia issue
[01:27] <Fuzzy76> Jucato, that line isn't right...
[01:28] <Fuzzy76> svn://localhost/var/lib/svn/fromcvs/quiz
[01:28] <Fuzzy76> argh... bad paste
[01:28] <Fuzzy76> update-alternatives: unknown argument `x-www-browser'
[01:28] <Jucato> Fuzzy76: hm... I think so... jende would you know the proper entry for the browser in /etc/alternatives?
[01:28] <MistaED> ooh, would this fix w3m from opening links from xchat?
[01:29] <Fuzzy76> I'm guess yes, MistaED :)
[01:29] <cpk2> http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-6126846.html?part=rss&tag=6126846&subj=news
[01:30] <dude_> be back, have to remove my hair
[01:30] <dude_> :)
[01:31] <jende> Jucato: not really...as it works perfectly here without doing anything on the console
[01:31] <Jucato> rawr!! "sudo update-alternatives --configure x-www-browswer"
[01:31] <Jucato> jende: some people have had troubles with Konqueror still being launched even if they changed the default browser to firefox
[01:32] <Jucato> Fuzzy76: did you get that?
[01:32] <Jucato> cpk2: looks like Windows drivers aren't affected? lol
[01:32] <jende> cpk2: nice...not
[01:33] <jende> Jucato:really?
[01:33] <Jucato> "The critical flaws were found in Nvidia's Binary Graphics driver for Linux versions 8774 and 8762,"
[01:33] <cpk2> i'm not really too worried about it anyways
[01:33] <Fuzzy76> Jucato, update-alternatives doesn't have a --configure option
[01:33] <Jucato> btw, I was wondering if there were any official statement from NVIDIA. they seem to be silent
[01:33] <cpk2> what are the odds of most people going to a site that will compromise us like that?
[01:33] <Jucato> Fuzzy76: ugh...
[01:34] <Jucato> cpk2: windows fanboys :P
[01:34] <Jucato> Fuzzy76: sorry, my bad. I'm not on Linux right now. "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"
[01:35] <Jucato> hmm.. brb... dinner :)
[01:36] <Fuzzy76> yay!
[01:36] <Fuzzy76> jucato is my hero :D
[01:37] <Fuzzy76> MistaED, now you try! ;)
[01:37] <jende> Fuzzy76: it works now?
[01:37] <MistaED> sweet
[01:37] <Fuzzy76> yup. Worked for me :D
[01:37] <jende> Fuzzy76: thats good!
[01:37] <Fuzzy76> I've been struggling with the same problem before aswell.
[01:37] <MistaED> nice, now links don't open up in that w3m thing
[01:38] <cpk2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278934 little more info on the nvidia thing for anyone interested
[01:38] <Fuzzy76> I had an install 6 months ago I deleted in rage because all links started opening in screem html editor
[01:38] <Fuzzy76> completely useless
[01:39] <MistaED> hmm, could this be the cause of mine and dad's machine crashing xorg when accessing a certain website?
[01:39] <MistaED> the nvidia driver issue i mean
[01:39] <Half-Left> Anyone has a issue with the trash being accessed during startup?
[01:40] <jende> MistaED: wouldn't really say so.
[01:40] <reon> Is  /etc/rc.d/  something from 2.4 kernel days ???
[01:41] <jende> cpk2: thanks for both links, quite annoying but nothing much we can do about
[01:42] <Half-Left> reon: yep, thats why slackware uses it
[01:43] <cpk2> well now that I have scared everyone I am going to sleep =)
[01:45] <jende> cpk2: you haven't scared me, cause I haven't got an nvidia
[01:45] <jende> cpk2: enjoy yoour sleep
[01:45] <jende> cpk2: <- doesn't surf malicious websites
[01:46] <jende> as like as noone should
[01:46] <jende> cpk2: lol
[01:50] <jende> I'll be off for a while...see ya later foolks
[01:58] <reon> Half-Left, thanks just figured it out. With Debian we have init.d with links to rc[0-xx] .d
[01:59] <Half-Left> :)
[02:11] <j2daosh> anyone in here have wine installed?
[02:30] <granbar> Hey
[02:30] <granbar> How can I get the mceusb2 module?
[02:32] <esas_> i've made a programm with quanta, and i want to send a email with mailto: , if i click on send i get a window in Kmail that works but the problem is it won't sent
[02:33] <granbar> Did you configure kmail?
[02:33] <esas_> yes
[02:36] <esas_> ?
[02:37] <esas_> does someone now the answer? :-)
[02:38] <esas> hello esas
[02:38] <esas> it's me, esas
[02:39] <esas_> hey esas :p
[02:39] <esas> can someone help us???
[02:39] <Jucato> someone has a weird case of schizophrenia here.... :P
[02:39] <esas> pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase
[02:39] <esas> no, we use the same network, other terminals
[02:39] <esas> she is sitting in front of me
[02:39] <Jucato> ah
[02:39] <esas_> :-)
[02:39] <esas> :)
[02:39] <esas_> :p
[02:39] <Jucato> what's the question? (just came in)
[02:40] <esas> can someone help us, with the mailto: problem
[02:40] <Jucato> oh...
[02:40] <Jucato> hm...
[02:41] <Jucato> that one... pretty clueles.. :(
[02:41] <esas> in a browser (firefox), you have a btn, submit, it sends a mail
[02:41] <Jucato> it won't send in KMail?
[02:41] <granbar> Hey. How do I build the lirc-modules-source?
[02:41] <esas> but the mail won't send
[02:41] <esas> nope
[02:41] <esas> you need an account with KMail
[02:41] <esas> but if i want to make one, i have to type something
[02:42] <esas> in the configure KMail at Sending/Receiving
[02:42] <esas> i don't know what
[02:43] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: a few 10000 e-mails? any client would freeze :P
[02:43] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, outlook doesn't.
[02:44] <Jucato> esas: what e-mail service are you using? if it supports smtp (like most services do), they will probably have some instructions on what info to put in
[02:44] <Ash-Fox> And I am opposed to using outlook, but this is just annoying. Thunderbird locks up for about five minutes, if I delete ONE e-mail on kmail, the entire thing freezes up for some undetermined amount of time
[02:44] <esas> e-mail service  (like hotmail)
[02:45] <Jucato> esas: so you're using hotmail?
[02:45] <eeos> Ash-Fox what version of kmail?
[02:45] <esas> idd
[02:45] <esas> indeed
[02:45] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: hm.. never froze for me...
[02:45] <granbar> How do I install lirc-modules?
[02:45] <esas> dunnow, installed dapper-drake 6.06
[02:45] <Ash-Fox> eeos, the one that comes with kde 3.5.5, I'd look uip the version but kmail is currently frozen
[02:46] <psb154> lol
[02:46] <eeos> ah!
[02:46] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: probably a new bug?
[02:46] <eeos> Ash-Fox strange it does not freeze on mie
[02:46] <Ash-Fox> No, had this problem back in kde 3.4 too
[02:46] <esas> lal
[02:46] <Jucato> weird then...
[02:46] <eeos> Ash-Fox sorry mine
[02:46] <Ash-Fox> You probably don't have as many e-mails as I do
[02:47] <eeos> Ash-Fox what typo of account?
[02:47] <Ash-Fox> right now, pop3.
[02:47] <granbar> make-kpkg
[02:47] <fdoving> granbar: use module-assistant
[02:47] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: yeah. just 1k
[02:47] <esas> #kubuntu-nl
[02:47] <psb154> 10 thousand is a lot of feckin e-mails
[02:47] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: maybe you could ask around in #kontact if you want to
[02:47] <Ash-Fox> psb154, that's what happens when you have a e-mail address longer than eight years.
[02:47] <Jucato> if you could download e-mails by batch
[02:48] <granbar> fdoving: Thanks :). But it seems like I can't install build-essentials. ( ... but it's referred to by another package )
[02:48] <Jucato> esas: I think the problem is that Hotmail doesn't allow pop/smtp so sending through KMail is out of the question (without some 3rd party hack/app)
[02:48] <fdoving> granbar: it's named 'build-essential' without the s.
[02:49] <granbar> fdoving: Sorry bout the typo, but still won't work. It's referred to by another package, is what apt-get says.
[02:49] <esas> Jucato: what do i have to do, then...
[02:49] <Jucato> esas: just use the web mail interface of hotmail (in Konqueror)?
[02:50] <esas> just use Konqueror
[02:50] <Jucato> I'm not sure how to configure Konqueror or KDE not to use KMail for mailto:links though
[02:52] <esas> Bianca, ge moet da van die printer nog vragen...
[02:52] <esas_> nee ale ik heb da al gevraagd he gij moet da vragen
[02:52] <fdoving> !be
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <Jucato> fdoving: was that belgian?
[02:53] <esas_> yes :-)
[02:53] <fdoving> Jucato: host says so.
[02:53] <Jucato> oh
[02:53] <Jucato> :)
[02:53] <esas> that was dutch
[02:53] <esas_> nico das wel hetzelfde he :-) of ni :-/
[02:53] <esas_> ale vraagt gij da nu is van die printer
[02:53] <esas> ja, maar gij snapt da ni
[02:53] <esas> nee, kmoet alte veel doen voor u
[02:53] <fdoving> esas, this channel is english only. that's my point.
[02:53] <Jucato> esas_ & esas: you could take your conversation to a private chat, you know
[02:54] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:54] <esas> o thanks
[02:54] <esas_> :-)
[02:54] <esas> but if someone would help us, we wouldn't have the time to chat with each other
[02:54] <esas> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:54] <fdoving> !!!
[02:54] <fdoving> !!
[02:54] <Jucato> !
[02:54] <fdoving> :)
[02:55] <Jucato> esas: if someone knew how to help you, you wouldn't be waiting anyway
[02:55] <fdoving> what's their problem?
[02:55] <Jucato> it's not like we actually don't want to help :)
[02:55] <esas> i know, but there are 300 people in this thing, and only 2 answer
[02:55] <gnomefreak> guys anyone notice its the same person?
[02:56] <fdoving> esas, what's the problem?
[02:56] <esas_> he's wright :p:p
[02:56] <esas_> :-)
[02:56] <Jucato> esas: more than 250 are not active. (just parking)
[02:56] <esas> were not the same person, were using the same network, other terminals
[02:56] <fdoving> gnomefreak: they (he/she/it) said something about another user on another computer or something..
[02:56] <abattoir> esas & esas_ : you are driving all my friend mad :(
[02:56] <esas_> nico you must ask for that printer  :p:p
[02:57] <esas> ok, 50 persons are online, and only 2 answer
[02:57] <abattoir> *friends
[02:57] <fdoving> esas, ask again please. what is your problem?
[02:57] <esas_> we have a problem with mailto:
[02:57] <esas> on the dutch 'forum' are only 4 persons, and nobody answers
[02:57] <MetaMorfoziS> !mailto
[02:58] <ubotu> mailto: WWW Forms to Mail Gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.2-1 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> bah...
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> so you need to find about it on wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:58] <fdoving> esas, ok, you have a problem with mailto:, what -is- the problem with mailto:?
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> or whatever, ubuntuforums.org
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> i think he have thunderbird and firefox with not working mailto /links
[02:59] <esas> we have the code, but on a browser if i want to send the mail, with the link, it won't send, i can't receive the email
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> uumph.
[02:59] <fdoving> esas, you have to explain what the problem is. i don't understand anything.
[02:59] <kkathman> sounds like a programming problem actually
[02:59] <gnomefreak> sounds like an html issue with a mailto link
[02:59] <kkathman> yep
[02:59] <esas_> fdovind: read the text by the other esas :-)
[02:59] <rahmetli> i am uninstalling konsole using purge option in adept,after reinstalling it,it still has the old schemas(changed ones),and i always have problems with saving my own schema in konsole.
[03:00] <kkathman> and this isnt #html or #php
[03:00] <_ian_> im using ubuntu 5.10 now i tried using just now kubuntu 6.06 live cd...how come my net connection on kubuntu cant be detected
[03:00] <Ash-Fox> http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/kmail-immidiate-filter <- one thing I really love about kmail is the fact it filters e-mails immidately into the appropriate folders and not after it's downloaded them to inbox etc
[03:00] <esas> no it isn't the programming is fine, it's the f**king KMail
[03:00] <esas> that's the reason
[03:00] <fdoving> esas, if you are programming this is not related to #kubuntu,as this channel is for Kubuntu support, not programming support.
[03:00] <esas> it's not the programming, it's KMail
[03:01] <fdoving> esas, if you're certain it's a kmail issue, explain the problem.
[03:01] <esas> i can't make an account
[03:01] <esas> it is something with that Sending/receiving
[03:01] <esas_> what must we fill in to create the wright acount?
[03:01] <Ash-Fox> esas, what e-mail provider are you using?
[03:01] <Jucato> hotmail, iirc
[03:01] <esas> hotmail
[03:02] <esas_> me to :p
[03:02] <esas_> :-)
[03:02] <Ash-Fox> hotmail requires that you pay for a premium account to use a external mail client
[03:02] <esas> what???
[03:02] <gnomefreak> kmail doesnt do hotmail
[03:02] <Jucato> which I already told them a while ago...
[03:02] <Ash-Fox> gnomefreak, it does, you need to pay a premium :P
[03:02] <gnomefreak> it doesnt do yahoo either
[03:02] <esas> but what do i have to do then???
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Ash-Fox: by default*
[03:02] <Ash-Fox> it does yahoo too, you need to pay for a premium account
[03:02] <Jucato> the Free Hotmail and Yahoo! Mail doesn't work with any e-mail client without the use of 3rd party apps
[03:03] <gnomefreak> install gotmail
[03:03] <esas> in,adept, install gotmail???
[03:03] <Ash-Fox> esas, you have to pay money to yahoo or hotmail etc. to use a external mail client. Or some install horrible hack like yahoopops
[03:03] <fdoving> esas, what are you trying to do with kmail? what does this have to do with mailto: ? are you trying to send or receive ?
[03:03] <Jucato> gnomefreak: will they be able to send from the e-mail client using the hotmail account/address?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> gotmail - utility to download email from a Hotmail or MSN account
[03:04] <esas> to send, but i cant receive either
[03:04] <gnomefreak> they would need hotsmtp to send iirc
[03:04] <gnomefreak> there is also a pop one
[03:04] <Jucato> which is probably far more complicated for them...
[03:04] <gnomefreak> hotsmtp - smtp to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway
[03:04] <esas> what???
[03:04] <gnomefreak> hotway - pop3 to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway
[03:05] <fdoving> esas, sending has nothing to do with hotmail, you can use the smtp-server of your Internet service provider, the one you pay the cable/dsl/dialup bill to.
[03:05] <gnomefreak> those are the 3 packages
[03:05] <esas> and...
[03:05] <Jucato> esas: basically, you need 3rd party apps to be able to use Hotmail with KMail (or any other e-mail client except Outlook)
[03:05] <esas> ok, then we know that...
[03:05] <gnomefreak> fdoving: depends is he sending from his hotmail account?
[03:05] <rahmetli> i am uninstalling konsole using purge option in adept,after reinstalling it,it still has the old schemas(changed ones),and i always have problems with saving my own schema in konsole.
[03:05] <fdoving> gnomefreak: doesn't matter, i can send with bill@gates.com from my mail client without anyone complaining.
[03:06] <gnomefreak> fdoving: yes but not from your hotmail account without added apps
[03:06] <Jucato> fdoving: unless he wants to send it as esas@hotmail.com
[03:06] <fdoving> Jucato: yes you can.
[03:07] <Jucato> but not from hotmail, right? only from the smtp of your ISP
[03:07] <v3ctor> rahmetli: remove the edited schema from ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole
[03:07] <esas> i tried to send to bill@gates.com
[03:07] <Jucato> ????
[03:07] <fdoving> Jucato: correct, but using hotmail when you don't -need- to is unneccessary.
[03:07] <esas> a window came and i typed something
[03:07] <esas> i got this
[03:07] <gnomefreak> fdoving: you cant send email from fdoving@hotmail.com from kmail by default
[03:07] <fdoving> gnomefreak: sure he can.
[03:07] <esas> i got a very large error
[03:07] <rahmetli> v3ctor: thanx
[03:08] <v3ctor> np
[03:08] <ravaria> HI!! can anyone tell me the diference between "sudo" & "su"??
[03:08] <fdoving> gnomefreak: you can send with any address. as from: address. even if it's not yours.
[03:08] <fdoving> !rootsudo > ravaria
[03:08] <Jucato> !su
[03:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:08] <Jucato> !sudo
[03:08] <Jucato> !sudo
[03:08] <esas> ok, it's a problem with my host
[03:09] <fdoving> gnomefreak: the problem appears when you want to receive the mails from fdoving@hotmail.com, sending can be done without talking to hotmail.com.
[03:09] <v3ctor> ravaria: sudo is a newer applicatin that has more features allowing more granulatrity in your asignment of privliges
[03:09] <Jucato> !sudo
[03:09] <abattoir> Jucato: won't work
[03:09] <fdoving> gnomefreak: reading can not happen without talking to hotmail.com
[03:09] <Jucato> lol
[03:09] <abattoir> Jucato: since you asked for !su only less than 8 sec. ago
[03:09] <Jucato> :P
[03:09] <ravaria> so sudo is "best" than su
[03:09] <Jucato> I'm impatient :)
[03:09] <Jucato> !sudo
[03:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:09] <abattoir> there you go :)
[03:09] <Jucato> ravaria: ^^^^^^
[03:09] <v3ctor> ravaria: it is a bit better because it does log what the users are doing
[03:10] <abattoir> Jucato: and i think fdoving already gave the links :)
[03:10] <ravaria> ok thanks
[03:10] <Jucato> where? :)
[03:10] <Jucato> oh nvm
[03:18] <_ian_> i ahve a ubutnu 5.10 now im plannoing to upgrade to kubuntnu 6.06 will my files and bookmarks and all the other stuff be retained when i install kubuntu 6.06?
[03:19] <fdoving> _ian_: if you upgrade, it will work. do you plan to upgrade from the internet?
[03:19] <fdoving> if you have a broadband connection i will recommend doing that.
[03:20] <granbar> I am still unable to apt-get build-essential, fdoving... I'm on edgy.
[03:20] <_ian_> no....kinda have a big problem with updating some packages kept back i cnat trouble shoot it since its really complicated and i dont know what to do ive been asking the guys from ubuntu but they say i should just install from a cd to get away from all the hassle
[03:21] <fdoving> _ian_: can you explain what the problem is and pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org) the error messages you get?
[03:21] <_ian_> ok wait a sec
[03:21] <fdoving> granbar: what error message do you get when you try to install build-essential?
[03:21] <granbar> fdoving: I must be retarded. I forgot to do an apt-get update first :P
[03:22] <fdoving> granbar :)
[03:22] <granbar> fdoving: Well thanks anyway :)
[03:25] <_ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27214/     there thats all the possible things as they tought me
[03:25] <fdoving> i'll look at it.
[03:25] <_ian_> thnx
[03:26] <Jucato> you have not changed any of your repositories to "dapper"
[03:26] <danny500> how do I veiw my desktop from anywere in the world?
[03:26] <danny500> for ubuntu
[03:27] <fdoving> danny500: install freenx and make sure you can connect to your computer with ssh. bring a nxclient binary everywhere in the world.
[03:27] <danny500> how do I make a nxclient profile for my pc?
[03:27] <fdoving> _ian_: do as jucato says, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all 'breezy' to 'dapper'.
[03:27] <fdoving> !freenx
[03:27] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:28] <danny500> ok
[03:28] <fdoving> danny500: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:28] <danny500> thanx
[03:28] <fdoving> you're welcome.
[03:28] <danny500> can I have multipul accounts?
[03:28] <fdoving> yes.
[03:28] <danny500> ok
[03:28] <danny500> thanx again thats all I need to know
[03:28] <danny500> hey, fdoving
[03:29] <danny500> do you have myspace?
[03:29] <fdoving> no.
[03:29] <danny500> ok
[03:29] <Jucato> fdoving has yourspace :P
[03:29] <danny500> i bet
[03:29] <Jucato> but probably he has MSN Spaces :P
[03:30] <danny500> which one do you guy's think is better? msn spaces or myspace?
[03:30] <fdoving> is myspace worth having? what are the spaces for?
[03:30] <danny500> !myspace
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <danny500> ok
[03:30] <granbar> Where is hisspace?
[03:30] <Jucato> lol
[03:31] <danny500> myspace is a place to meet people and show who you are and it makes for a really cool homepage
[03:31] <granbar> But if I'm a nobody?
[03:31] <danny500> you have to do some coding to set it up though
[03:31] <Ash-Fox> Then you put music on your webpage and lots of youtube videos
[03:31] <fdoving> ok, i have a really cool homepage. :)
[03:31] <danny500> don't matter
[03:31] <Ash-Fox> Which will make you 'popular' some how.
[03:31] <danny500> lol
[03:31] <fdoving> even got a launchpad homepage.
[03:31] <_ian_> k ill do that
[03:31] <granbar> Where, fdoving?
[03:32] <fdoving> launchpad.net/people/frode
[03:32] <fdoving> :)
[03:32] <danny500> www.myspace.com/gspotforever
[03:32] <granbar> Ash-Fox: I've got a myspace, even with a video, but I'm not popular :(
[03:32] <Jucato> fdoving: social networking stuff. some are good (Multiply.com), some are half good (Friendster), some are just bad :P
[03:32] <granbar> fdoving: Ka er vitsen?
[03:32] <granbar> What's the point with launchpad?
[03:33] <granbar> Is it the same as myspace?
[03:33] <Ash-Fox> granbar, you don't have enough videos then! and what about background music from people like.. linkinpark?
[03:33] <Jucato> granbar: definitely not
[03:33] <granbar> oh
[03:33] <fdoving> !no > granbar
[03:33] <Jucato> !launchpad
[03:33] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[03:33] <Jucato> granbar: ^^^^
[03:33] <granbar> Linkin Park. Alot of people like linkin park
[03:33] <fdoving> !no > fdoving
[03:33] <granbar> Do you have linkin park on your launchpad, fdoving?
[03:33] <Jucato> granbar: of course he wouldn't
[03:33] <fdoving> not at all :)
[03:34] <danny500> lol
[03:34] <Jucato> didn't you read what I pointed to about Launchpad? :)
[03:34] <granbar> Yes
[03:34] <granbar> But still
[03:34] <granbar> You could add some music
[03:34] <Jucato> no
[03:34] <granbar> Come on
[03:34] <Jucato> Launchpad is purely for business
[03:34] <Jucato> it's not a social networking service, it is not a webhosting service, it's not a blog
[03:34] <_ian_> though i cant edit it.... i can only read it
[03:34] <danny500> in open office word proccessor can I setup a way so that when you click on a certaint word it will go to a certiant page?
[03:35] <fdoving> _ian_: are you running kubuntu now?
[03:35] <_ian_> nope...ubuntu
[03:35] <granbar> fdoving: What projects are you working on?
[03:35] <danny500> does ubuntu have a wmv player?
[03:35] <fdoving> granbar: kubuntu
[03:35] <Ash-Fox> !wmv
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:36] <zenz> wow i was here 3 times lol
[03:36] <granbar> fdoving: Which part?
[03:36] <fdoving> granbar: here and there, support, bugs, small patches, etc. nothing special.
[03:36] <Genix|linux> can someone go to terminal type in alsamixer and tell me the values that each thing is set at?
[03:37] <fdoving> _ian_: ok, in a terminal run 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:37] <Genix|linux> i screwed mine up and now my sound is horrible
[03:37] <fdoving> _ian_: that will let you edit it.
[03:37] <Jucato> !gksudo
[03:37] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[03:37] <Ash-Fox> 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:37] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: _ian_ is on Ubuntu
[03:37] <granbar> fdoving: Cool
[03:37] <Jucato> *cough* gksudo *cough*
[03:37] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, ah.
[03:38] <Jucato> _ian_: please use "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" instead
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Genix|linux: master = 80<>80 base and trebal = 50<>50 pcm = 52<>52
[03:38] <Genix|linux> gnomefreak: that's all you have in there?
[03:38] <hom_> hi everyone
[03:38] <Genix|linux> no like surround or anything?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> yep other than headphone 0<>0
[03:39] <Genix|linux> damn
[03:39] <Genix|linux> i have like 15 things
[03:39] <gnomefreak> i have like 6
[03:39] <ganesh> hello everybody
[03:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy!
[03:39] <gnomefreak> 8
[03:39] <ganesh> iv got a prob with edgy
[03:39] <_ian_> jucato nothing showed up with that command i mean the proggram went up but no nothing inside
[03:39] <fdoving> ganesh: ask :)
[03:39] <yacoob> aha, alternative install iso is here. Now, too bad I'm going drinking tonight, probably will not test it... :)
[03:39] <gnomefreak> oops
[03:39] <Genix|linux> i have 42
[03:39] <Genix|linux> lol
[03:39] <ganesh> when i reboot my comp system takes me to run level 3
[03:40] <_ian_> fdoving every single instance of breezy i need to change with "dapper" right?
[03:40] <ganesh> the screen goes blank and if i press any of arrow keys init level 3 login comes
[03:40] <Jucato> _ian_: oh? then just open "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:40] <ganesh> fdoving: any idea?
[03:40] <_ian_> whe i just open i cant write onto it
[03:40] <fdoving> _ian_: yes. breezy -> dapper, breezy-security -> dapper-security and so on.
[03:41] <gnomefreak> Genix|linux: suround = 100<>100 center = 100  lfe 100 synth and woave = 80<>80
[03:41] <fdoving> ganesh: no, i don't experience that on my edgy boxes.
[03:41] <gnomefreak> cd = 81<>81
[03:41] <yacoob> abstract kde question, how customizable is bottom bar?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ac97 = 80<>80
[03:41] <ganesh> folks any idea why this happens
[03:41] <Jucato> yacoob: depends on what you do. it's quite flexible, though
[03:41] <BluesKaj> OK, Is there a way to switch back and forth between windows and kubuntu without rebooting every time ?
[03:41] <yacoob> (aka, can I make it not display running apps, or something similar to osx bar :)
[03:42] <Genix|linux> gnomefreak: thanks a lot
[03:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:42] <yacoob> BluesKaj, unless you install one in vmware... no ;>
[03:42] <gnomefreak> Genix|linux: everything else is either noting or 0
[03:42] <Genix|linux> pl
[03:42] <Genix|linux> ok*
[03:42] <fdoving> ganesh: is this a fresh edgy install? or is it upgraded from dapper?
[03:42] <ganesh> upgraded from dapper
[03:43] <BluesKaj> yacoob:  there used to be a way in suse from the startup page
[03:43] <ganesh> fdoving: i am able to start x using startx after i login
[03:43] <Jucato> BluesKaj: but that reboots the computer, afaik
[03:43] <fdoving> ganesh: you can check the 5th line in /etc/inittab if it says 'id:2:initdefault:' and it still takes you to runlevel 3 i don't understnad anything.
[03:43] <ganesh> fdoving: will do that right away
[03:43] <fdoving> ganesh: ah, then you're in runlevel 2 i suspect, but your X just doesn't start.
[03:43] <yacoob> BluesKaj, was there? Technically speaking there are possibilities like that, but they require specific installation
[03:44] <ganesh> fdoving: that is correct
[03:44] <BluesKaj> yeahm yacoob, basically one is just switching partitions
[03:44] <fdoving> ganesh: does 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' start X ?
[03:44] <fdoving> ganesh: the login manager, that is.
[03:45] <Genix|linux> gnomefreak: thanks so much man
[03:45] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:45] <Genix|linux> my sound finally doesn't sound AS horrible
[03:45] <Jucato> BluesKaj: but that still involves the computer rebooting. you can add a similar menu to your "Restart Computer" option if you enable it in KDM
[03:45] <Jucato> I'm just not sure how it works in Kubuntu
[03:45] <Jucato> (or if it works at all)
[03:45] <Genix|linux> i mean my surround is still horrible but at least it's not as bad now
[03:45] <Genix|linux> lol
[03:45] <Jucato> gah! this flu is killing me!
[03:46] <danny500> does anyone know how to make it so that when I click one a certiant word in openofficeword it will take me to another area/page?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> Jucato: ok, i don't see the point of that ...trying to get away from rebooting :)
[03:46] <ganesh> fdoving:in inittab it says id:2:initdefault:
[03:46] <fdoving> ganesh: correct.
[03:46] <danny500> anybody?
[03:46] <Jucato> BluesKaj: are you sure that SUSE's "feature" doesn't really reboot your computer?
[03:46] <_ian_> ho about this line
[03:46] <_ian_> #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[03:47] <Jucato> _ian_: leave that commented/disabled
[03:47] <ganesh> fdoving: do i need to change that?
[03:47] <BluesKaj> bummer Jucato...had the flu a month ago ...was particularly virulent ;(
[03:47] <fdoving> _ian_: you can safely delete it or leave it disabled, (# at beginning).
[03:47] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I hope my PC doesn't catch my virus :P
[03:47] <danny500> does anyone know how to make it so that when I click on a certiant word in open office word it will take me to another area/page?
[03:48] <danny500> linux doesn't have any viruses
[03:48] <BluesKaj> My memory isn't real good Jucato...it may have rebooted in suse as well
[03:48] <danny500> does it?
[03:48] <fdoving> ganesh: no, you do not need to. you can try to shutdown X,and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' see if X starts and the login manager appears.
[03:48] <Jucato> danny500: sad to say, I'm on XP :P
[03:48] <danny500> oh
[03:48] <danny500> windows is only good for playing games
[03:48] <_ian_> wait...all the lines with # should not be changged?
[03:48] <Jucato> danny500: I'm not familiar with OO.o. but they might have a way to make hyperlinks?
[03:49] <ganesh> fdoving: i will try that
[03:49] <danny500> linux is good for every thing else lol
[03:49] <Jucato> Dannilion: it's also good when you don't have any other pc around
[03:49] <BluesKaj> I wish mythtv wasn't so damn complicated to install...looks like a nightmare :(
[03:49] <Jucato> err. sorry Dannilion that was meant for danny500
[03:49] <fdoving> _ian_: all the lines with a # at the beginning are disabled, you do not need to change them, but it's not a bad thing to do.
[03:49] <Jucato> danny500: it's also good when you don't have any other pc around
[03:50] <Jucato> err... he might remove # from the comments too?
[03:50] <danny500> what do you mean?
[03:50] <Jucato> danny500: my Linux PC is under repair. so I'm using my sister's which is XP-only
[03:50] <_ian_> ok
[03:50] <fdoving> _ian_: you should not enable them by removing the # at the beginning, you should just change breezy -> dapper, understand?
[03:50] <danny500> o lol you probably hate it to eh
[03:51] <fdoving> Jucato: get a livecd :)
[03:51] <_ian_> so all the lines with the # i need not to change right?
[03:51] <Jucato> danny500: yeah. I have barely used XP for almost 5 months... now I've been using it for almost 5 days... :(
[03:51] <BluesKaj> I eventually hope to use kubuntu as my main OS but unsupported hardware drivers and conflicts are preventing me from switching over completely , and I'm not even a gamer :)
[03:51] <danny500> lol
[03:51] <fdoving> _ian_: you do not need to, correct.
[03:51] <Jucato> fdoving: er.. yeah, and setup everything again everytime I reboot? :P
[03:51] <danny500> that sucks/
[03:52] <_ian_> ok....
[03:52] <danny500> just make a smae partition
[03:52] <Jucato> now if only Kubuntu would release a Live CD where you can save settings on a USB or a HDD, then I would love it :)
[03:52] <danny500> make a small partition on her computer
[03:52] <WoodwardAve> does the kde 3.5.5 release for kubuntu have any major bugs?
[03:52] <fdoving> Jucato: the open office thing: select text -> find hyperlink button in the tooolbars, use it :)
[03:52] <danny500> how big is the hard drive?
[03:52] <Jucato> fdoving: redirect to danny500
[03:53] <fdoving> Jucato: sorry :)
[03:53] <danny500> I did that
[03:53] <Jucato> it barely has 5GB left, btw
[03:53] <danny500> o lol thats a windows cpu for you lol
[03:53] <Jucato> fdoving: besides, with 256MB RAM only, I doubt I'd enjoy using the Live CD
[03:53] <fdoving> Jucato: this is for you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[03:53] <_ian_> wow it worked .....waiting for downloads thouggh ill update you if theres problems thanks
[03:53] <Genix|linux> ok i got another problem
[03:53] <danny500> what?
[03:53] <Jucato> danny500: nah. this creature as a 120GB HDD. my sister has just used up all the space....
[03:54] <danny500> with what?
[03:54] <Jucato> danny500: I don't even want to know. lots of stuff...
[03:54] <danny500> lol
[03:54] <Genix|linux> i tried to change the default media player to vlc by right clicking on the avi file and going to open with and then other then choosing vlc and clicking the box that says remember application association for this type of file
[03:54] <danny500> bsb downloads lol
[03:54] <Genix|linux> but it still always opens in kaffeine
[03:54] <_ian_> im now doing sudo upgrade
[03:55] <BluesKaj> Jucato: prolly movies
[03:55] <_ian_> and its downloading stuff
[03:55] <Genix|linux> and i can't remove kaffeine i don't think
[03:55] <Jucato> fdoving: I've seen that before. unfortunately I currently don't have a USB drive large enough for it. is it possible to do that on a HDD instead?
[03:55] <Genix|linux> anyone know?
[03:55] <Jucato> BluesKaj: and music I guess
[03:55] <Jucato> _ian_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (since you're going to Dapper)
[03:55] <fdoving> Jucato: i can't think of any reason it wouldnt work with a hd.
[03:55] <danny500> how old is your sister?
[03:56] <danny500> jucato
[03:56] <BluesKaj> mp3s don't tke much space ...wav and mov files are a diff story
[03:56] <danny500> jucato>how old is your sis?
[03:57] <Jucato> danny500: 27 last I checked. why'd you want to know? :P
[03:57] <Jucato> BluesKaj: she has *lots*
[03:57] <danny500> just wondering
[03:57] <_ian_> oops....its already downloading will that mess that up/
[03:57] <danny500> yeah it's prob movies and music
[03:57] <Jucato> Genix|linux: try to check in Konqueror > Settings > Configure Konqueror > File Associations
[03:57] <Genix|linux> ok
[03:58] <stylus90> Man
[03:58] <stylus90> LINUX COol
[03:58] <stylus90> Eh
[03:58] <stylus90> KUBuntu Birthday?
[03:59] <Genix|linux> Jucato: thanks man
[03:59] <Genix|linux> that worked
[04:00] <Jucato> :)
[04:10] <Genix|linux> damn it
[04:11] <Genix|linux> my wine stopped working right
[04:11] <BluesKaj> splittsville
[04:11] <Genix|linux> anyone get shockwave or flashplayer working without wine?
[04:11] <Jucato> but not that big netsplit :)
[04:12] <abattoir> Jucato: there was a netsplit?
[04:12] <BluesKaj> tried fashplyer 7 but it doesn't work on a lotta sites that require the new 8 vers
[04:12] <_ian_> how will i know if upgrade is done?
[04:12] <Jucato> a mini-netsplit :)
[04:12] <Jucato> _ian_: you're thrown back to the command prompt. but since you only used "upgrade" there are still updates not installed I'm sure
[04:13] <_ian_> yep im doing dist upgrade now
[04:15] <granbar> fdoving: Do you think there exists lirc binary modules? I'm having problems compiling them.
[04:16] <|lostbyte|> Kopete takes alot of processage usage..
[04:16] <|lostbyte|> anyone experiancing this ?
[04:16] <Jucato> |lostbyte|: in KDE 3.5.5?
[04:16] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, yes.
[04:16] <Jucato> afaik, that shouldn't be (at least 0.12.2 in KDE 3.5.4)
[04:17] <divansantana> any one know news on when edge will be released?
[04:17] <Jucato> divansantana: target date Oct 26
[04:17] <divansantana> believe RC1 is due tomorrow.... hope it still is cause there was talk of a delay...
[04:17] <Jucato> !schedule
[04:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:17] <fdoving> granbar: no idea.
[04:17] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, :o
[04:17] <divansantana> kewl
[04:18] <granbar> fdoving: k
[04:18] <Genix|linux> do you guys use synaptic for upgrading and stuff?
[04:18] <Genix|linux> gui wise
[04:18] <Genix|linux> not like command line
[04:19] <divansantana> I use synaptic for gui, not adept, even though am major kde fan
[04:19] <divansantana> but mainly apt-get unless need gui for simple reasons...
[04:19] <Jucato> adept is.... um... still a baby...
[04:20] <Jucato> aptitude CLI, not the ncurses GUI
[04:20] <divansantana> maybe edge adept, will be better, but synaptic seems much much better
[04:20] <asimon> I use adept when not using aptitude.
[04:20] <divansantana> hope adept will catchup
[04:20] <Jucato> divansantana: well, definitely not yet in Edgy :P
[04:20] <divansantana> Jucato: is there no new adept in edgy ? ? ? :(
[04:21] <Jucato> unfortunately, nothing new (last I checked)
[04:21] <divansantana> Great - thanks for popping my bubble ;) Darn, thats a pity, will see...
[04:21] <Jucato> probably some bug fixes here and there
[04:21] <Jucato> but nothing drastically new like System Settings
[04:21] <divansantana> what is adv of aptitude over apt-get ??
[04:22] <Jucato> handling of metapackages basically
[04:23] <Jucato> smarter handling of packages, probably
[04:23] <_ian_> is itnormal for a lot of packages to be held back while dist-upgrade and for firefox to be removed/
[04:23] <Jucato> hm...
[04:23] <divansantana> o ok thanks
[04:24] <zorglu_> why shipit doesnt provide edgy ?
[04:24] <Jucato> _ian_: I'm not entirely sure. but yes, dist-upgrade would remove some packages
[04:24] <Jucato> zorglu_: no
[04:24] <zorglu_> there is something i dont understand about the status of edgy, is it the next stable version or developerement version
[04:25] <Chousuke> It will be the next stable
[04:25] <Jucato> zorglu_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14#head-1e3555bea7bd06018bbadcf89ed23281e09d78f1
[04:25] <zorglu_> looking
[04:25] <Jucato> zorglu_: it's the next stable version, but not the LTS
[04:26] <BluesKaj> the next stable version is available Oct 26 ...heh, I'll prolly wait for a day or 2, til the dust settles to DL it.
[04:26] <zorglu_> Jucato: what is the difference between 'stable version' and 'lts' ?
[04:27] <Genix|linux> aptitude is gui?
[04:27] <Mr_G> To enable the slow query log, start mysqld with the --log-slow-queries[=file_name]  option.
[04:27] <Jucato> zorglu_: LTS = Long Term Support
[04:27] <Mr_G> how to start mysql with this program ?
[04:27] <Jucato> Genix|linux: there's an ncurses GUI for aptitude.
[04:27] <Mr_G> i always use service mysqld start
[04:28] <zorglu_> Jucato: i understood that, but this doesnt explain the difference between 'long term support' and 'stable version'
[04:28] <Genix|linux> hmm
[04:29] <Genix|linux> ncurses i should check that out
[04:29] <Genix|linux> aptitude is just apt-get right
[04:29] <Genix|linux> or no
[04:29] <Jucato> not really
[04:29] <Genix|linux> sorry i'm a n00b
[04:29] <Genix|linux> so how do i use aptitude?
[04:30] <Grem> just did some updates to kubuntu edgy packages, rebooted, and now kubuntu boots in console :S no errors or such. if I try startkde I get a bunch of Segmentation faults
[04:30] <Chousuke> Genix|linux: just like you would use apt-gete
[04:30] <Chousuke> -e
[04:30] <Jucato> Genix|linux: like "sudo aptitude update" or "sudo aptitude install <package>"
[04:30] <Chousuke> Genix|linux: except that aptitude unifies apt-cache and apt-get
[04:30] <Jucato> to use the GUI, just type in "aptitude"
[04:30] <v3ctor> Genix|linux: to use the ncurses interface just type aptitude
[04:31] <v3ctor> or: sudo aptitude
[04:33] <Grem> is there a chan dedicated to kubuntu edgy eft ?
[04:33] <Jucato> zorglu_: basically they're both stable. LTS just means that they're going to be focusing the support for it far longer than your regular stable release
[04:33] <Jucato> so it's going to be a lot like Debian's stable releases (Sarge)
[04:33] <zorglu_> Jucato: ok thanks
[04:34] <Jucato> Grem: #ubuntu+1 is for general Edgy
[04:34] <Grem> tks
[04:34] <_ian_> how will i know if i successfully upgraded my dist?
[04:34] <Jucato> _ian_: try typing "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[04:34] <v3ctor> LTS is geared towards companies or people that don't want to upgrade regularly
[04:35] <_ian_> still 5.10
[04:35] <Jucato> :(
[04:35] <Jucato> try dist-upgrading again? (you mentioned some packages were held back)
[04:35] <zorglu_> v3ctor: yep to people which want to keep their machines running without upgrade issue :)
[04:35] <v3ctor> yes
[04:36] <zorglu_> surprisingly me understanding what is edgy make me decides not to update :)
[04:36] <v3ctor> the non-LTS stable are for those that want "stable" but more cutting edge
[04:36] <Jucato> heh
[04:36] <Jucato> and Edgy is more than just "more cutting edge". hence the name
[04:37] <Jucato> so in a sense, Edgy might be less stable as compared to Dapper or Edgy+1. *might* be
[04:37] <zorglu_> 'cutting edge' is just a cool word for 'unstable' and 'buggy' :)
[04:37] <Jucato> zorglu_: not really. you can still have cutting edge without being unstable
[04:37] <v3ctor> zorglu_: no..that is bleeding edge ;)
[04:37] <Jucato> lol
[04:37] <Jucato> terminologies...
[04:37] <v3ctor> lol
[04:37] <zorglu_> :))))
[04:37] <Jucato> you get cut, you bleed :p
[04:38] <djclue917> zorglu_: Bleeding edge is better. ;-)
[04:38] <Jucato> gah.. mucus is getting into my brain
[04:38] <Jucato> whoa djclue917!!!
[04:38] <Jucato> long time :)
[04:38] <djclue917> Jucato: yup. I've been busy with acad stuff.
[04:38] <Jucato> good for you :)
[04:39] <Genix|linux> v3ctor, Chousuke, and Jucato thanks
[04:39] <Jucato> hm.
[04:39] <Jucato> !aptitude
[04:39] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:40] <Jucato> Genix|linux: I forgot that one ^^^^^^
[04:41] <Grem> so aptitude > apt-get ?
[04:42] <nonaino> ola alguien habla espaol
[04:42] <v3ctor> !es
[04:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:42] <Jucato> Grem: depends on the person using :)
[04:42] <octan> hi all
[04:42] <v3ctor> hi octan
[04:42] <Grem> :)
[04:42] <Jucato> "better" or ">" is quite subjective :)
[04:42] <octan> how is the ubuntu server distro ?
[04:42] <Grem> hehe yeah
[04:42] <octan> compared to debian
[04:42] <v3ctor> octan: not bad
[04:42] <octan> im using debian sarge on my server and i want a upgrade
[04:42] <CVirus> !flash
[04:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:42] <v3ctor> i still use debain for my servers though
[04:42] <Grem> but removing dependencies installed with a package seems really nice
[04:43] <v3ctor> still testing ubuntu server
[04:43] <Jucato> Grem: nice, if you want it. sometimes aptitude can be annoying when it tries to be smarter than you :)
[04:43] <octan> v3ctor, have you tested the ubuntu server version ?
[04:43] <octan> ahh
[04:43] <Grem> Jucato, I see =)
[04:43] <v3ctor> octan: i am currently testing ;)
[04:44] <octan> v3ctor, so far its good? anything i should keep in mind ?
[04:44] <v3ctor> i haven't noticed anything *bad* so far
[04:45] <v3ctor> but i have not noticed enough im provement to make the switch either
[04:45] <octan> does it come with a X or is it only cli ?
[04:45] <v3ctor> cli
[04:45] <octan> :)
[04:45] <v3ctor> but...you can easily add x
[04:45] <octan> i dont need X
[04:45] <v3ctor> i also have been using it to install my desktops too
[04:45] <octan> admining is done on the cli :P
[04:46] <v3ctor> yup
[04:46] <v3ctor> no x on any of my servers
[04:46] <_ian_> nothing hapopoens now
[04:46] <Jucato> _ian_: when you try to dist-upgrade?
[04:47] <Jucato> what happened when you tried to dist-upgrade a second time? it donwloaded more stuff?
[04:49] <IceGuest_5> !gigabyte GN-WP01GS
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gigabyte GN-WP01GS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <IceGuest_5> !GN-WP01GS
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GN-WP01GS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <Jucato> IceGuest_5: you might have better luck with Google...
[04:51] <IceGuest_5> tried, I can't find anithing useful
[04:51] <Jucato> :(
[04:51] <IceGuest_5> gigabyte GN-WP01GS is making problems
[04:51] <IceGuest_5> first it works from live CD
[04:51] <IceGuest_5> now when instaleed it is'nt
[04:53] <IceGuest_5> kubuntu is great, fast and prety, bat WIFI
[04:53] <IceGuest_5> HELL
[04:53] <fdoving> !language
[04:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:53] <BluesKaj> I have a prog in the K-menu but it won't launch...it launches ok from the Desktop, but why is it listed in the the kicker if it won't open from there ?
[04:54] <Jucato> BluesKaj: maybe the command in K Menu isn't correct?
[04:54] <IceGuest_5> ok, back to manual
[04:54] <BluesKaj> ok, how do i correct it?
[04:55] <Jucato> BluesKaj: right-click on the entry in K Menu, choose Edit this Item, then compare it with the launcher on your dekstop?
[04:55] <_ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27223/
[04:55] <nonaino> ola alguien habla espaol
[04:55] <BluesKaj> what's the path for k-menu anyway ?
[04:56] <zorglu_> !es
[04:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:56] <nonaino> jajaja perdon k sea tan pesao es pa k m pongais los canales
[04:56] <Jucato> BluesKaj: what do you mean?
[04:56] <BluesKaj> if I remove the prog from the k-menu can i replace it with working version ?
[04:56] <zorglu_> an alternative would be the 'kmenuedit' command line tool
[04:57] <Jucato> _ian_: could you please pastebin again your current sources.list
[04:57] <Jucato> zorglu_: it's not a command line tool....
[04:57] <zorglu_> ok this is a tool launchable from command line ?
[04:58] <Jucato> BluesKaj: you can just copy the working command from the desktop launcher and paste it in the appropriate field in the menu editor
[04:58] <zorglu_> Jucato: not trivial to find vocabulary that suit you :)
[04:58] <Jucato> zorglu_: heheh! it's launchable from Alt+F2 as well :)
[04:58] <Jucato> command line tool would be something like apt-get. :)
[05:02] <BluesKaj> I tried editing the k-menu and adding the new item and it looks good , but it still won't launch from the k-menu :(
[05:02] <Jucato> hm... that's strange then...
[05:02] <_ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27224/
[05:03] <Jucato> _ian_: ok I'll look into it
[05:04] <Jucato> _ian_: by any chance, from the philippines?
[05:04] <BluesKaj> Jucato, what do you mean by "working command "and where would I find it ?
[05:05] <Jucato> BluesKaj: working command would be the command used, working directory would be the path where the command is
[05:05] <Jucato> _ian_: you basically have a very messed up sources.list...
[05:06] <_ian_> i am fromt he phil
[05:06] <Jucato> _ian_: pareho lang tayo :P
[05:06] <_ian_> lol
[05:06] <_ian_> tulong!!!!
[05:06] <abattoir> !ph
[05:06] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[05:07] <Jucato> _ian_: ok. (but speak in English here :P )
[05:07] <Jucato> abattoir: yeah I got it. :)
[05:07] <abattoir> :P
[05:07] <Jucato> just taking over for fdoving actually :)
[05:07] <Jucato> (besides, very few Kubuntu users in #ubuntu-ph so I didn't bother lol)
[05:08] <abattoir> create a #kubuntu-ph ;)
[05:08] <Jucato> lol
[05:08] <Jucato> I think not :)
[05:09] <fladd> hi everyone! I have a question about the look of kubuntu: I have a resolution of 1280x800 on my laptop. In my opinion everything is a bit too big. In windows everything is in a way more compact (on the same resolution). Is there anything I can do about it?
[05:10] <Jucato> _ian_: hold on, I'm basically rewriting your sources.list
[05:11] <v3ctor> fladd: lower the font size and change the icon size
[05:14] <kerian> fladd: I know what you're talking about... my advice is to play around with different themes until you find one that works for you
[05:15] <_ian_> sure man
[05:15] <kerian> you can adjust most of the fonts and sizes used for everything under System Settings -> Appearance
[05:16] <kerian> the trick is figuring out which settings you want to fiddle with :)
[05:16] <BluesKaj> why is it so difficult to move something into the k-menu ... nothing works
[05:16] <fladd> kerian, any advices on themes?
[05:16] <Jucato> _ian_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27226/  corrected sources.list
[05:17] <Jucato> _ian_: basically you had a messed up sources.list. some where still in breezy. and some were just plain disabled
[05:17] <kerian> hmm... one of the "crystal" variations has controls for nearly all of the widget sizes
[05:17] <_ian_> how did that happen in the first placve i never opened that file...ever
[05:17] <kerian> I think that's what I use on my subnotebook
[05:18] <kerian> fladd: another piece of advice... alt+right click and drag is your friend :P
[05:18] <Jucato> _ian_: probably when you first changed it a while ago
[05:19] <_ian_> might be
[05:22] <mendred> hi are there any kubuntu packages for openoffice 2.0.4?
[05:22] <Jucato> !openoffice.org dapper
[05:22] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB (Only available for amd64 ia64)
[05:23] <Jucato> mendred: probably not yet, at least not in Dapper
[05:23] <Jucato> !openoffice.org edgy
[05:23] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[05:23] <mendred> shucks
[05:23] <Jucato> Edgy has it though
[05:23] <mendred> hope they backport it
[05:23] <Jucato> hopefully
[05:26] <orient2000> Hi guys maybe somebody can help me. I am sick and tired of this message. It comes up every time I click update manager.
[05:27] <orient2000> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[05:27] <zorglu_> orient2000: install the key of this repository
[05:27] <jerre> even i am getting this message
[05:27] <orient2000> where can I find it?
[05:28] <Jucato> from the easy source page I guess
[05:28] <zorglu_> let me look
[05:29] <zorglu_> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html <- orient2000 seems to be that
[05:29] <nonaino> ola alguien habla espaol
[05:29] <zorglu_> !Es
[05:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:30] <orient2000> thanks I am going to check it ouut.
[05:32] <Jucato> ugh.. EasyUbuntu :)
[05:33] <chowsapal> not at home right now or i could check, but does the kubuntu dapper livecd include knetworkmanager and wpasupplicant?
[05:34] <nonaino> espaol
[05:34] <nonaino> alguien habla espaol
[05:34] <fdoving> !es
[05:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:35] <Jucato> !knetworkmanager dapper
[05:35] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[05:40] <chowsapal> Jucato: does that mean it's on the liveCD? :)
[05:40] <Jucato> chowsapal: er.. I don't know. I was just checking what it was. :(
[05:40] <chowsapal> gotcha :)
[05:40] <chowsapal> gives a GUI interface for WPA / wireless config
[05:46] <zorglu_> q. i use kopete 0.11.1 and i crash as soon as i do 'configure -> devices'. the webcam working without any issue with other apps. any suggestion ?
[05:46] <zorglu_> #kopete says it is possible to do video with msn with kopete 0.11 and i would like to try
[05:47] <BonBonTheJon> zorglu_: that is a known bug, try upgrading
[05:47] <zorglu_> upgrading what ? :)
[05:47] <Jucato> Kopete (and KDE probably?_
[05:48] <zorglu_>      4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1~dapper1 0
[05:48] <zorglu_>         500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/main Packages
[05:48] <zorglu_> is the one i got in the repository...
[05:48] <Jucato> ooh so Kopete 0.12.2 has finally hit backports :)
[05:48] <Jucato> zorglu_: yep upgrade to that one
[05:48] <zorglu_> well i wont update kde without knowing how stable it is :)
[05:49] <SDY> I seem to have an internet-connection problem over here, who can help me with that?
[05:49] <zorglu_> i need my box to run :)
[05:49] <zorglu_> i think i need a crash box to test the stability of the update :)
[05:49] <archangel_> I need to update my flash
[05:49] <archangel_> how do i?
[05:50] <Jucato> zorglu_: you don't need to upgrade KDE to get Kopete 0.12.2 since it's in dapper-backports already (afaik)
[05:50] <zorglu_> Jucato: 4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1~dapper1 0 <- this doesnt require kde 3.5.4 ?
[05:50] <BonBonTheJon> !kopete
[05:50] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB
[05:50] <zorglu_> BonBonTheJon: this is the one i got, the bugged one :)
[05:50] <Jucato> zorglu_: oh my bad
[05:51] <SDY> My internet stopt working in kubuntu whili it still works in winxp, every settin
[05:51] <zorglu_> it is ok, i will wait a bit :)
[05:51] <SDY> g seem to be ok
[05:51] <Jucato> but at least KDE 3.5.3 is stable
[05:51] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: can you ping
[05:51] <SDY> no I can't
[05:51] <zorglu_> Jucato: ok
[05:52] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: do 'lspci' and see if it mentions your network card
[05:53] <SDY> It does, my network card is perfectly vissible, it is even working,
[05:53] <SDY> I just don't get any traffic
[05:54] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: do 'ifconfig' to see if you have an ip address
[05:55] <SDY> BonBonTheJon: any more ideas? I'm working in winxp right know (so I have connection)
[05:56] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: try 'ifconfig' to see if you have an ip address
[05:56] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: try 'dhclient eth0' to try to get a new ip address
[05:56] <zorglu_> !ipv6
[05:56] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:56] <zorglu_> this may be a cause of trouble too
[05:56] <BonBonTheJon> zorglu_: true
[05:57] <SDY> BonBonTheJon: Have tried that, but i do not work with dhcp...
[05:58] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: so you have an ip address but can't ping.... hmm
[05:58] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: yeah, try disabling ipv6
[05:58] <SDY> and how would i do that
[05:58] <SDY> ?
[05:59] <BonBonTheJon> !ipv6
[05:59] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:59] <BonBonTheJon> zorglu_: sorry, he must have missed you doing that
[05:59] <SDY> ubotu: thanks
[05:59] <ubotu> Thanks for the help!
[05:59] <zorglu_> BonBonTheJon: no problem :)
[06:00] <zorglu_> SDY: ubotu is a bot :)
[06:02] <SDY> zorglu_: newbie, me? What made you think that...
[06:03] <zorglu_> :)
[06:04] <SDY> BonBonTheJon: But this can't really be the problem since it worked fine before today
[06:04] <SDY> BonBonTheJon: besides, my mainboard (onboard lan) is just a couple of days old...
[06:05] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: well, what changed in the mean time
[06:06] <SDY> BonBonTheJon: nothing special, turn my pc down yesterday, restarted today, bang, stopt working
[06:08] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: how did you tell it to get the address
[06:08] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: during install?
[06:10] <SDY> BonBonTheJon: which address, IP? Via system settings
[06:10] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: ok
[06:11] <SDY> BonBonTheJon: I have also checked te /etc/network/whatsthenameagain file
[06:11] <SDY> BonBonTheJon: seemed to be allright
[06:12] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: I don't know, but I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[06:13] <SDY> BonBonTheJon: i'll be reading...
[06:14] <BonBonTheJon> SDY: print that out or something, and try what it says, and come back and tell me if you figured it out
[06:15] <SDY> BonBonTheJon: ok
[06:16] <davide> ciao ragazzi
[06:16] <davide> c' qualcuno?
[06:16] <davide> vorre 1 aiuto
[06:16] <BonBonTheJon> !it
[06:16] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:16] <davide> per chi ha da poco lasciato WInzozzo
[06:19] <davide> sorry
[06:20] <BonBonTheJon> davide: thats ok
[06:20] <davide> i didn't know it was an english channel
[06:20] <davide> sorry another time
[06:21] <BonBonTheJon> davide: if you have a question we can try to help you
[06:21] <davide> thank u BonBon
[06:21] <davide> well
[06:21] <davide> i want to install a printer
[06:21] <davide> i.e. a canon i250
[06:21] <davide> i downloaded the drivers
[06:22] <davide> but now i don't know how it's possible to install them
[06:22] <trappist> !enter
[06:22] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:22] <Jucato> lol
[06:24] <davide> bob have u understood?
[06:24] <BonBonTheJon> davide: i think you mean me, i do understand, i'm looking up the answer
[06:24] <davide> ah thank you
[06:25] <davide> it's a .gz file
[06:26] <davide> i've decompressed it
[06:26] <davide> and now i don't know what file i have to use
[06:28] <backlash> Has anyone tried the new edgy release?
[06:29] <BonBonTheJon> backlash: i know some people have, but they have said that not too much is different, beside eyecandy
[06:30] <backlash> Does it look promiseing at all for a new version?
[06:30] <rafmad> sta bene
[06:30] <rafmad> i tried the upgrade
[06:30] <rafmad> "kernel panic"
[06:30] <backlash> did you not like it?
[06:31] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: well there are under the hood differences too
[06:31] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:31] <rafmad> ciao
[06:31] <Jucato> new kernel, new init system (upstart), better USplash, new KDE, new packages, etc.
[06:31] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: what version of kde is in it
[06:32] <Jucato> 3.5.5
[06:32] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: I have that for dapper
[06:32] <kkathman> ditto
[06:32] <backlash> yeah I just upgraded to the new kde package today
[06:32] <rafmad> i too
[06:33] <backlash> but being new to linux, just installed this last night, I do not notice much differences
[06:33] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: yes, but Dapper's is an "unofficial" update. Edgy's is default
[06:33] <rafmad> but what about KDE 4?
[06:33] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: true
[06:33] <n8k99> 3.5.5 is mostly bug fixes there are not real noticeable changes
[06:33] <Jucato> rafmad: still far away I'm afraid
[06:33] <nonaino> espaol
[06:33] <BonBonTheJon> davide: i'm still looking into it
[06:33] <nonaino> alguien habla espaol
[06:33] <n8k99> !es
[06:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:34] <backlash> how long have you all been useing linux?
[06:34] <stokedfish> only 3 years
[06:34] <Jucato> 10 months now
[06:34] <Jucato> :)
[06:34] <stokedfish> hm no 4
[06:34] <backlash> do you use it as your default oS?
[06:34] <BonBonTheJon> full time about 3 years, i first tried it in 1998
[06:34] <Hawkwind> Is there any other OS to use ?
[06:34] <Hawkwind> Hah
[06:34] <BonBonTheJon> backlash: yeah
[06:34] <Jucato> yes, until a few days ago when my Linux box broke down...
[06:35] <backlash> ahah yea
[06:35] <Jucato> now I have to use the dreaded OS of the quad-colored butterfly...
[06:35] <backlash> I dual boot xp and linux
[06:35] <backlash> wow
[06:35] <backlash> that's awsome
[06:35] <Hawkwind> I wiped my dual boot of Linux/Windows after only 10 days on Linux.  I never looked back
[06:36] <BonBonTheJon> davide: have you tried to install it in the control center
[06:36] <Jucato> not really, considering how some people have used Macs solely for more than that time :)
[06:36] <stokedfish> yes backlash, default OS here...I still use windows to synchronize my Palm though
[06:36] <BonBonTheJon> stokedfish: have you tried kpilot
[06:36] <n8k99> year and half
[06:36] <backlash> I am mostly into video editing, yet I am sad to see that not many editing programs work in lunix, or I havn't looked deep enough
[06:36] <stokedfish> BonBonTheJon: yes but too much is missing imho
[06:37] <BonBonTheJon> stokedfish: like what
[06:37] <Jucato> stokedfish: I think there's a project on the way called opensync
[06:37] <BonBonTheJon> !opensync
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opensync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: i think the new project is supposed to be included in kde4
[06:38] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: it's a fdo project, iirc
[06:39] <nonaino> alguien habla espaol
[06:39] <Jucato> !es
[06:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:40] <backlash> does anyone use linux to do any video editing, or 3D work?
[06:40] <Jucato> maybe, with Kino or Blender probably
[06:40] <n8k99> backlash: you can use blender for 3d work
[06:40] <zorglu_> blender is rather good
[06:40] <kkathman> Blender for 3D work definitely I'd say
[06:40] <zorglu_> video editing is a lot more poorly represented tho
[06:40] <backlash> blender is complicated
[06:41] <stokedfish> BonBonTheJon: some things you can't synchronize...applications like sunrise, plucker (offline webreader) etc...also, I never got my Palm TX to work at all...can't sync it  (my old Palm worked but now I switched) - I'll look into all that again as soon my second box is set-up...
[06:41] <n8k99> i also believe that pixar has pushed some of their linux apps back towards teh community
[06:41] <zorglu_> well doing 3d work is not an easy task
[06:41] <backlash> I come from Cinema 4D and maya
[06:41] <kkathman> well, 3d work is complicated
[06:41] <backlash> I know that
[06:41] <zorglu_> backlash: maya is available on linux i think
[06:41] <Jucato> I think blender looks a lot more like Lightwave than Maya or 3DS Max
[06:41] <BonBonTheJon> stokedfish: i got my tx to work by setting kpilots port to 'net:all' and syncing wirelessly
[06:42] <backlash> how can I get maya to work on linux
[06:42] <hades> hi people !
[06:42] <hades> ive got problems with wifi with kubuntu
[06:42] <hades> one is on my stational computer
[06:42] <zorglu_> backlash: at a given point, maya was providing its software on linux, i dont know the current status. check their website
[06:42] <BonBonTheJon> stokedfish: 'net:any' i just looked it up
[06:42] <hades> ive got wl54g-pci
[06:43] <hades> and laptop is d-link dwl-g630
[06:43] <hades> pcmcia
[06:43] <BonBonTheJon> hades: what is the problem
[06:43] <hades> ive checked all the formus and ...
[06:43] <stokedfish> BonBonTheJon: you got the TX to work? holy shit...that's awesome news man...are you often here in the irc? I'll come back to you if that's okay...right now I'm a bit too busy with work
[06:43] <backlash> has anyone heard about anything related to video editing on linux?
[06:43] <hades> BonBonThejon: the problem is to make wifi working
[06:43] <BonBonTheJon> stokedfish: i keep it up basically all the time
[06:44] <backlash> I would think that linux would be great for it since it runs with little background apps and can give full power to the programs
[06:44] <hades> BonBonThejon: to connect to the wifi net
[06:44] <BonBonTheJon> stokedfish: you just connect the tx to wifi, and you can connect wirelessly
[06:44] <kkathman> backlash:  try typing *linux video editing* in google...yu might see alot of things :)
[06:44] <zorglu_> backlash: if you find one which works, tell me :) i looked for one for a long time without success. i only found halfbacked one.
[06:44] <hades> BonBonThejon: to make the devices seeable bye the system
[06:44] <stokedfish> BonBonTheJon: are you using a PIM app as well? like kontact or evolution? I used to sync with kontact...
[06:45] <zorglu_> backlash: the best i has seen is 'pitivy' from gstream guy but it is still beta
[06:45] <BonBonTheJon> hades: do 'lspci' to see if it is recognized
[06:45] <stokedfish> BonBonTheJon: I have no wi-fi...doesn't it work the old-fashioned way?
[06:45] <BonBonTheJon> stokedfish: it syncs with kontact
[06:45] <BonBonTheJon> stokedfish: i have only gotten the cable to work a few times, where as wireless works every time
[06:46] <hades> BonBonTheJon: hmmm it is recognized
[06:46] <stokedfish> BonBonTheJon: I'll get a wireless upgrade then...seriously
[06:46] <BonBonTheJon> hades: what chipset does it have, broadcom or atheros or other
[06:46] <stokedfish> I could finally ditch crappy windows...hate it
[06:46] <hades> BonBonTheJon: but when i am using yhr wlassasistant i cant see any network
[06:47] <hades> BonBonTheJon: i think other
[06:47] <backlash> kkathman: I tried that and I am doing a search right now
[06:47] <BonBonTheJon> hades: what brand
[06:47] <lipe> someone can send me, or tell me where can i download the iostream.h lib ... that stays in /usr/nclude ?!?!?!
[06:47] <hades> BonBonTheJon: RaLink
[06:47] <hades> BonBonTheJon: RT2500
[06:47] <BonBonTheJon> hades: RaLink? not dLink?
[06:48] <lipe> someone can send me, or tell me where can i download the iostream.h lib ... that stays in /usr/nclude ?!?!?!
[06:48] <hades> BonBonTheJon: no i am talking not about the laptop but the station computer with pci card
[06:48] <lipe> someone can send me, or tell me where can i download the iostream.h lib ... that stays in /usr/nclude ?!?!?!
[06:48] <hades> BonBonTheJon: so ... on the station one is the WL54g-PCI (RT2500)
[06:49] <NightBird> lipe, do you have a c++ compiler installed?
[06:49] <lipe> just g++
[06:50] <faLUCE>  Hi all, do you know if GCJ, when "compiling" java code, forces always a CNI port (java--->c++) or it "translate" directly Java code into machine code? thnks
[06:50] <BonBonTheJon> hades: i found this http://www.flamingspork.com/blog/2005/01/14/rt2500-wireless-pci-card-on-ubuntu/ where some one installed a rt2500
[06:50] <NightBird> hm... then you should have the include file and libraries...
[06:50] <NightBird> lipe, try reinstalling the build-essentials package
[06:50] <backlash> has anyone tried xawtv
[06:50] <lipe> NightBird: but it isn't here ..
[06:51] <lipe> NightBird: ok ... thx u
[06:51] <hades> BonBonTheJon: Thanks
[06:52] <BonBonTheJon> hades: you are going to need internet access to install the software
[06:52] <hades> BonBonTheJon: maybe You can fidn something about AirplusG ( D-Link) DWL-G630 (PCMCIA)
[06:52] <AbortD> what is the hotkey for system monitor in kde?
[06:52] <hades> BonBonTheJon: I have right now the i-net but from a cable
[06:52] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm is there a nice network traffic monitor for KDE? that shows connections, ports etc? much like netstat but as an application with a GUI?
[06:52] <kkathman> AbortD:   ctrl+esc
[06:53] <AbortD> HOLY MOSES SOMEONE FINALLY GAVE ME A HUMAN RESPONSE
[06:53] <AbortD> kkathman: can i ask you a question
[06:53] <kkathman> heh
[06:53] <AbortD> ?
[06:53] <Jucato> ???
[06:53] <kkathman> well you can ask :)
[06:53] <AbortD> what is a hotkey?
[06:53] <kkathman> shortcut
[06:53] <AbortD> is it ps aux or is it ctrl esc?
[06:53] <hades> BonBonTheJon: i have problems with wifi on 2 computers as I told You before laptopm and a station one ...
[06:53] <Jucato> keyboard shortcut
[06:54] <kkathman> ctrl+esc is the shortcut/hotkey for the system tasks that are running
[06:54] <zorglu_> 'ps aux' is a command, like the ones you can use in a terminal
[06:54] <BonBonTheJon> hades: yeah, the dlink shouldn't be too hard, i have the dwl-g650, which i imagine are similar
[06:54] <kkathman> you use ps aux at a konsole or terminal line (i.e. CLI)
[06:55] <zorglu_> btw what 'CLI' stands for ?
[06:55] <hades> BonBonTheJon: maybe ...
[06:55] <kkathman> CLI = command line interface
[06:55] <hades> BonBonTheJon: i have this laptop turned on so u can tell me what to do ...
[06:55] <AbortD> thank you
[06:55] <Captain_Redbeard> Anyone? I need an application that shows connections and request and what ports are used/requested... with a GUI preferably
[06:55] <AbortD> thank you all
[06:55] <AbortD> i truely love you al
[06:55] <kkathman> AbortD:  another terminal/konsole command for monitoring is    top     it continually refreshes
[06:55] <AbortD> i asked in two ubuntu chans
[06:56] <AbortD> and they told me ps aux
[06:56] <AbortD> ps aux
[06:56] <AbortD> its like morn ps aux is not a hotkey
[06:56] <BonBonTheJon> hades: do lspci and look for aatheros
[06:56] <stokedfish> Captain_Redbeard: I know there is one on kde-apps.org...browse that site
[06:56] <zorglu_> kkathman: ok
[06:56] <BonBonTheJon> hades: atheros*
[06:56] <Captain_Redbeard> stokedfish: thanks
[06:56] <cliebow> anyone else see xchat broken in edgy?
[06:57] <hades> BonBonTheJon: w8 ill turn it on ... what abut sharing the i-net by wi-fi ? is it a hard thing ?
[06:57] <hades> BonBonTheJon: any gui tool ?
[06:57] <kkathman> cliebow:   are you running kubuntu ?
[06:57] <BonBonTheJon> hades: gui for what
[06:57] <hades> BonBonTheJon: a tool for sharing the net by wi-fi ?
[06:57] <cliebow> well new install of edgy --upgrade from breezy
[06:57] <kkathman> cliebow:  try konversation instead  (xchat is primarily a gnome app)
[06:58] <cliebow> ok..that is what i am on
[06:58] <BonBonTheJon> hades: i know it is possible to share internet access by wifi, but I am not sure how off the top of my head
[06:58] <kkathman> cliebow:  if yer on ubuntu gnome - you might want to get help in #ubuntu then
[06:58] <BonBonTheJon> hades: i usually just use a wireless router, they are rather cheap
[06:58] <cliebow> im running primarily kdm with icewm
[06:58] <cliebow> and ltsp
[06:58] <kkathman> try konversation then
[06:58] <hades> BonBonTheJon: there is nothing like atheros
[06:59] <zorglu_> cliebow: what is 'ltsp' ?
[06:59] <cliebow> seems fine..just used to the other
[06:59] <cliebow> linux terminal services
[06:59] <hades> BonBonTheJon: funny it shows RaLink: unknown device
[06:59] <cliebow> i am one of the dev guys
[06:59] <cliebow> i run 100 terminals off one install
[06:59] <hades> BonBonTheJon: ill take the card away and ill check if anythink changed
[07:00] <hades> BonBonTheJon: ok PCMCIA is working
[07:00] <cliebow> mof fact went to ubuntu bel;ow zero last Nov
[07:00] <BonBonTheJon> hades: do 'lspci | grep Ethernet'
[07:00] <cliebow> and going to SF for ltsp by the bay
[07:01] <hades> Broadcom Ceoporation NetXtreme BCM901 100Base-TX
[07:01] <hades> BonBonTheJon: but this is the normal card not the wifi one
[07:01] <hades> for the wiifi it shows
[07:02] <hades> BonBonTheJon: Network controller: RaLink: unknown device 0302
[07:02] <orient2000> I have some error coming out of update manager. Anybody can help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27236/
[07:03] <orient2000> What is a Meta files?
[07:03] <BonBonTheJon> hades: isnt this RaLink supposed to be the D-Link DWL-G630?
[07:04] <hades> BonBonTheJon: Yes
[07:05] <hades> BonBonTheJon: i mean
[07:06] <hades> BonBonTheJon: this RaLink: unknown device should be the DWL-G630
[07:06] <BonBonTheJon> hades: can you postbin 'lspci'
[07:06] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin
[07:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:07] <zorglu_> cliebow: i looked at the ltsp.org web site. just a feedback from an user. would be cool to have the doc in html available from the site. i failed to find it on the 'new site' but found an old version on the 'old site'
[07:08] <bsnider> u there Riddell?
[07:08] <cliebow> zorglu: it is a mess..most of the new is on wiki.ltsp.org
[07:08] <cliebow> and that is getting groty
[07:08] <hades> BonBonTheJon: no such command pastebin
[07:09] <zorglu_> cliebow: i was trying to understand what is ltsp. can it be summarized as a "netboot + X forwarding" all wrapped to make it easy to use/configure ?
[07:09] <BonBonTheJon> hades: you need internet access, then copy and paste the stuff from 'lspci' into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:09] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin
[07:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:11] <hades> BonBonTheJon: i cant get the net acces in the laptop without the wifi
[07:11] <cliebow> yes..thin client using pxe or etherboot to d/l a kernel..nfs mount a file sytem from server and do a switchroot..then an xsession with xdmcp login (classic ltsp)
[07:11] <cliebow> edubuntu hs its own ltsp
[07:11] <hades> BonBonTheJon: it shows Network controller: RaLink: unknown device 0302
[07:11] <cliebow> the mdz and ogra have developed
[07:12] <hades> BonBonTheJon: iwconfig shows the interface ra0 and card propably RT61
[07:12] <hades> BonBonTheJon: do i need any drivers ?
[07:12] <zorglu_> cliebow: yep i clearly see the insterest for 'organization with little money' like school
[07:12] <hades> BonBonTheJon: what is ndiswrapper ? is it the driver emulator?
[07:12] <BonBonTheJon> hades: i found something, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980
[07:13] <BonBonTheJon> !ndiswrapper > hades
[07:14] <orient2000> Anybody know what are Meta files? are they fonts maybe?
[07:14] <zorglu_> orient2000: it depends on the context of where you saw that
[07:15] <orient2000> I have some error coming out of update manager. Anybody can help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27236/
[07:15] <zorglu_> orient2000: 'meta files' may be 'auxilary file' or 'external file'
[07:16] <Captain_Redbeard> Bah... adept wont start because another process aparently is in use... aptitude works though... so where is the lock or pid file for adept?
[07:16] <zorglu_> orient2000: i looked at the link but apparently either the website or konqueror is bugged at the output is trunkated
[07:16] <Jucato> "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:16] <Jucato> Captain_Redbeard: ^^^^
[07:17] <Captain_Redbeard> Jucato: hah, thanks :D
[07:17] <zorglu_> orient2000: hmm the output is truncated on firefox too, so apparently the issue is in the website
[07:17] <zorglu_> orient2000: i dont see any error on the 'seeable' part of it
[07:19] <zorglu_> orient2000: ok try 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:19] <BonBonTheJon> hades: any progress
[07:31] <orient2000> One depository was duplicated by easyubuntu. I fixed it. I will do sudo now
[07:31] <bogo> any one here who could help me out with nvidia geforce 7900gt 2 crt monitorz output?
[07:32] <bogo> i am using ubuntu...
[07:32] <zorglu_> !nvidia
[07:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:32] <zorglu_> i dunno if it helps, it is the only thing i know about this :)
[07:32] <bogo> i have instaled the drivers
[07:32] <zorglu_> bogo: what is the problem to meet then ?
[07:33] <bogo> well i have only one monitor working
[07:33] <bogo> i am noob sorry have many problems
[07:33] <bogo> ...
[07:33] <zorglu_> oh i misparsed the '2 crt' :)
[07:33] <zorglu_> hmm
[07:33] <bogo> yes i have 2
[07:33] <zorglu_> !xinerama
[07:33] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:33] <bogo> but works only one
[07:34] <zorglu_> this is the usual stuff for multi monitor
[07:34] <bogo> can we talk in private?
[07:35] <chris_kub> please, can someone help me. I installed ATI drivers yesterday and everything worked fine. But today i started the notebook and KDE doesnt start anymore.
[07:35] <nofrak> error message?
[07:35] <zorglu_> bogo: hmmm i dont see the need for it. why do you want that
[07:35] <orient2000> I did sudo dpkg --configure -a and same error remains. It seams like there are some files missing on a server. I have the same problem with a key. Publick key not available.
[07:35] <chris_kub> nothing
[07:35] <bogo> here are ppl joining and parting...
[07:35] <bogo> and i have few questions.-..
[07:35] <bogo> hard to track
[07:35] <bogo> ..
[07:35] <nofrak> chris: just a black screen, or login, or what?
[07:36] <zorglu_> bogo: oh you have trouble with the 'join/part' message ? konversation allow you to ignore them
[07:36] <chris_kub> nofrak: just a screen with the kubunut logo
[07:36] <chris_kub> with black background
[07:37] <zorglu_> bogo: konversation -> configure -> behaviour -> chat window -> hide join/part message
[07:38] <nofrak> chris: so are you on a different box or using gnome or what?
[07:38] <bogo> oke
[07:38] <bogo> much better
[07:38] <zorglu_> orient2000: from here, i would say the repository has trouble
[07:38] <chris_kub> im now using windows
[07:38] <zorglu_> bogo: i use it too :)
[07:38] <bogo> :)
[07:38] <nofrak> do you have another desktop installed?
[07:38] <B-Minus> anyone using kubuntu with a intel 950 GMA card ??
[07:38] <chris_kub> nofrak: no
[07:39] <nofrak> chris: have you tried logging into a failsafe terminal?
[07:39] <chris_kub> nofrak: you mean safe mode? yes
[07:39] <chris_kub> and it works
[07:40] <bogo> ection "Device"
[07:40] <bogo>         Identifier      "NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT"
[07:40] <bogo>         Driver          "nvidia"
[07:40] <bogo>         BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[07:40] <simse> Hi anyone who has experience with installing a Intel GMA 950 driver?
[07:40] <bogo> ehh i changed this few minutes ago when i tried to make it work
[07:40] <bogo> lol
[07:40] <nofrak> chris: my guess is your problem is with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[07:40] <bogo> how can i use backup
[07:40] <bogo> ?
[07:41] <chris_kub> nofrak: what can i do?
[07:41] <bogo> i made backup first
[07:41] <wimpies> Does anybody know of a good GUI for the automounter ?
[07:41] <nofrak> chris: use the terminal and edit it using vi, then scroll down to where it says "device" and make sure the driver is correct
[07:42] <nofrak> chris: if you can read your linux partition from windows, you could do it that way, too
[07:42] <chris_kub> nofrak: thanks, im going to try. If the driver isnt correct, what do i have to do?
[07:43] <simse> Anyone who can help me with a i810-driver... Thx
[07:43] <chris_kub> i cant see the linux partition form windows, how could i ?
[07:43] <nofrak> chris: it'll say Driver "Something"  .  change "Something" to "whatever driver you installed"
[07:43] <zorglu_> !anyone >simse
[07:43] <zorglu_> simse: just in case you wonder why you dont get much help :)
[07:43] <nofrak> chris: there are a few utilities for it
[07:44] <nofrak> chris:reading ext3 from win, I mean
[07:44] <chris_kub> ok, ill try it, thanks, i will tell you if it works, thanks
[07:46] <simse> !Anyone who can help me with a i810-driver... Thx
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Anyone who can help me with a i810-driver... Thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <trappist> simse: you might have better luck asking a specific question
[07:47] <pap> hey   how do I install stuff and what nots
[07:47] <bogo> !nvidia
[07:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:47] <simse> oki
[07:47] <simse> Ill try then
[07:47] <bogo> what was that page for twin....
[07:48] <zorglu_> bogo: !xinerama
[07:48] <bogo> !xinerama
[07:48] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:48] <TheGateKeeper> pap: using either apt-get, aptitude, adept or synaptic the choice is yours
[07:48] <simse> I have a widescreen computer and want the resolution to be 1280x768, but right now it is 1024x768... I dont know how to change it...
[07:49] <zorglu_> simse: i think there are a tool for that...
[07:49] <simse> weee
[07:50] <simse> tell me
[07:50] <zorglu_> !info 915resolution
[07:50] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modify tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386)
[07:50] <bogo> !info 915resolution
[07:51] <zorglu_> simse: it is the tool i was thinking about. not sure it will do it for you... but you may check
[07:51] <zorglu_> !resolution
[07:51] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:52] <zorglu_> simse: the above link may be of interest as well
[07:52] <simse> I dont want to be annoing but Im totally newb to linux. just convertet from ws.
[07:52] <simse> Oki Ill take a look at it. thx
[07:53] <zorglu_> simse: no problem. read the link, you will get basic info. if you have question, ask them here
[07:54] <bogo> Section "Device"
[07:54] <bogo>          Identifier  "Videocard0"
[07:54] <nofrak> so anybody want to guess why the KLaptop applet refuses to load in Kicker at login?
[07:54] <bogo>          Driver      "nvidia"
[07:54] <bogo>          VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
[07:54] <bogo>          BoardName   "NVIDIA GeForce FX5900XT"
[07:54] <bogo>          Option      "TwinView"                 "true"
[07:54] <bogo>          Option      "RenderAccel"              "true"
[07:54] <bogo>          Option      "UseEdidFreqs"             "true"
[07:54] <bogo>          Option      "MetaModes"                "1600x1200,1600x1200;1280x1024,1280x1024;1024x768,NULL;800x600,800x600;640x480,640x480"
[07:54] <bogo>          Option      "SecondMonitorHorizSync"   "30-110"
[07:54] <bogo>          Option      "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "50-160"
[07:54] <bogo>  EndSection
[07:54] <bogo> what should be here for me ?
[07:54] <bogo> i use geforce 7900 gt
[07:54] <bogo> ?
[07:54] <zorglu_> nofrak: i dunno about the guess game, but i noticed the same problem on my box
[07:54] <simse> zorglu: thank you
[07:54] <Jucato> bogo: please don't flood
[07:54] <Jucato> !pastebin
[07:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:55] <bogo> why is scream oppening all http
[07:55] <bogo> how can i change this?
[07:57] <stokedfish> Now listening: Monsieur's departure by Qntal on Silver Swan
[07:57] <stokedfish> hmm, works
[08:00] <simse> zorglu_:
[08:01] <zorglu_> simse: i agree :)
[08:01] <simse> I have installed a package called 855resolution, but when i try to enter it doesnt work
[08:01] <simse> do I have to reboot to make the package work?
[08:02] <zorglu_> simse: well i dont use it... so i cant really help you
[08:02] <pap> !firefox
[08:02] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:02] <zorglu_> one day i should try tho, as i have a laptop with a 'widescreen' too
[08:02] <simse> all right
[08:08] <SDY> BomBonTheJon: Hey, I'm back. My internet still isn't working...
[08:09] <SDY> BomBonTheJon: I've done everything you sayd and did evrything on that site, nothing..
[08:10] <SDY> Is there anybody around who knows a thing or two about networking in kubuntu???
[08:11] <fdoving> SDY: yes, hang on, i'll just have to do a reboot.
[08:11] <SDY> fdoving: ok
[08:11] <rag> hola *
[08:12] <rag> please!
[08:12] <SDY> rag: wat's up?
[08:12] <rag> any way for install on several machines?
[08:13] <rag> install same software on all machines
[08:13] <rag> script?
[08:13] <SDY> rag: you mean through a network?
[08:13] <rag> yeah
[08:14] <rag> now, i doing ssh root@ip aptitude install x
[08:14] <rag> but i see than not is the solution
[08:14] <SDY> rag: check this one: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Network-Install-HOWTO.html
[08:14] <rag> ok! thanks
[08:14] <zorglu_> !es
[08:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:15] <zorglu_> rag: just in case you feel more confortable in spanish
[08:15] <rag> thx!
[08:15] <luigi> oooooo
[08:16] <luigi> italiani???
[08:16] <zorglu_> !it
[08:16] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:16] <B-Minus> be
[08:16] <B-Minus> !be
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <B-Minus> :s
[08:16] <B-Minus> belgium
[08:16] <zorglu_> B-Minus: french will do ?
[08:16] <B-Minus> no
[08:17] <B-Minus> dutch
[08:17] <zorglu_> what is the code name for dutch langage ?
[08:17] <zorglu_> !du
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about du - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <B-Minus> !nl
[08:17] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[08:17] <B-Minus> :p
[08:17] <zorglu_> ok :)
[08:17] <rag> SDY; help
[08:18] <SDY> rag: yes?
[08:19] <rag> SDY: I need find a solution for install for example any software (kstars ;-) example) on all machines of my network
[08:20] <SDY> rag: so just for programs, not full os?
[08:21] <rag> SDY: just programs
[08:21] <rag> not os
[08:21] <dhq> can someone help me Nagios 2.5 installation
[08:21] <SDY> rag: how big is your network than?
[08:21] <rag> a little
[08:21] <rag> 8-10 computers each
[08:22] <SDY> rag: ok... mm, never tried this before myself...
[08:22] <rag> this work: ssh root@IP aptitude install X
[08:22] <zorglu_> there is a ssh version which handle mutiple ssh at a time
[08:23] <rag> SDY: but not is solution
[08:23] <rag> zorglu: which?
[08:23] <zorglu_> !info clusterssh
[08:24] <ubotu> clusterssh: administer multiple ssh or rsh shells simultaneously. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.18.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 160 kB
[08:24] <rag> zorglu: ah ok i see it, but your recomendation for me?
[08:24] <zorglu_> well you can try it and see if it helps ?
[08:25] <rag> zorglu: i have install it , yesterday, but is graphical tool?
[08:25] <rag> zorglu: i need on command line
[08:25] <SDY> fdoving: are you back yet?\
[08:25] <fdoving> SDY: back.
[08:25] <zorglu_> rag: it is the onely one i know like that
[08:25] <fdoving> SDY: what's your problem?
[08:26] <zorglu_> personnaly i would do a bash script, rag
[08:26] <DjDarkman> is there someone here who had compiled wine on a 64 bit kubuntu?
[08:26] <SDY> fdoving: you are good with networking right?
[08:26] <rag> zorglu: yes, thanks , i want do it
[08:27] <fdoving> SDY: depends on your problem.
[08:27] <rag> zorglu: but... how to insert root passwd? do yo know? i doing sometime but now i forget... ;-(
[08:27] <zorglu_> rag: 'sudo passwd' and then type the root passwd
[08:27] <verwilst> hi
[08:27] <rag> zorglu:  but... how to insert root passwd? do yo
[08:27] <verwilst> anybody using an nvidia card with edgy?
[08:27] <rag> zorglu: sorry
[08:27] <zorglu_> rag: sorry too :) i dont understand what you mean :)
[08:27] <rag> zorglu: ssh root@192.168.0.124 aptitude install mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es
[08:28] <rag> zorglu: perdon
[08:28] <zorglu_> rag: oh ok, look at the ssh configuration to get RSA/DSA authentication
[08:28] <rag> zorglu: this command prompt me for a passwd root
[08:28] <SDY> fdoving: well, since tomorrow my internetconnection isn't working (no traffic) in linux. In winxp it still works, same device
[08:28] <zorglu_> rag: it is safer and especially doesnt ask for a password :)
[08:28] <SDY> fdoving: I can ping to localhost, but that's it
[08:29] <rag> zorglu: how to?
[08:29] <fdoving> SDY: ok. are the network devices up? do you get a ip address on the device?
[08:29] <zorglu_> rag: 1. google for it, 2. follow the instruction found :)
[08:29] <rag> zorglu: always from same machine no?
[08:29] <zorglu_> or ask more here :)
[08:29] <rag> zorglu: true?
[08:30] <rag> zorglu: ok thx
[08:30] <zorglu_> ok i will even google for you :)
[08:30] <SDY> fdoving: yes, I did some tests like lspci -> ok, ifconfig says 0 on RX packets and TX packets
[08:30] <rag> zorglu: o yeah goog my friend
[08:30] <fdoving> SDY: but does 'ifconfig' list the device? does it have an ip?
[08:30] <rag> zorglu: our tonight friend...
[08:30] <zorglu_> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/sshrsakey.html <- this one seems good rag
[08:31] <SDY> fdoving: it does lidt the device and it does have an ip
[08:31] <SDY> fdoving: static ip bytheway
[08:31] <rag> zorglu: thx
[08:32] <zorglu_> SDY: can you ping the other boxed on the same LAN, durectly using their IP
[08:33] <zorglu_> or the gateway
[08:33] <fdoving> SDY: are the static settings the same in linux as in windows?
[08:33] <rag> zorglu: time to work
[08:33] <rag> zorglu: thanks!
[08:34] <SDY> fdoving: the same
[08:34] <SDY> zorglu: no, i can't ping the gateway
[08:35] <fdoving> SDY: what did you change? i assume this worked before?
[08:36] <dhq> > why do i get this error  "./install.sh: 130: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[08:36] <SDY> fdoving: It did, but it just didn't work anymore when i booted this morning...
[08:36] <zorglu_> SDY: from ifconfig output "RX packets:5036339 errors:2 dropped:19 overruns:2 frame:0" <- do you noticed any unusual number of error/dropped/etc...
[08:36] <fdoving> dhq: the install.sh script uses bash-only code, and the shebang (first line) says #!/bin/sh and expects /bin/sh to be bash, but it's not. it's dash. change to #!/bin/bash
[08:37] <SDY> zorglu: RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[08:38] <zorglu_> SDY: TX is similar i guess
[08:38] <fdoving> SDY: is the route set correctly?
[08:38] <zorglu_> SDY: can you cut/paste from this box ? like what is the output of 'ip route'
[08:39] <Arlington> hi! my amarok won't start when i press the icon in start menu but it starts when i use konsole mode and run it using sudo "amarok"
[08:39] <Arlington> anyone that has a clue what's going on?
[08:40] <SDY> fdoving: how do i know?
[08:40] <SDY> zorglu: no, ij'm now in winxp...
[08:40] <fdoving> SDY: do as zorglu_ says. 'ip route'
[08:40] <jdunn> help
[08:40] <fdoving> !help
[08:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:40] <fdoving> :)
[08:40] <fdoving> !ask
[08:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:40] <fdoving> jdunn: ^^
[08:40] <gemidjy> are Edgy artoworks for OO.org and GIMP ready somewhere?
[08:42] <SDY> zorglu: what can i see from ip route?
[08:42] <fdoving> SDY: you can see the routing table.
[08:42] <zorglu_> SDY: hmm this make the help harder...
[08:42] <fdoving> SDY: the last line is the essential one. 'default via .....'
[08:42] <SDY> zorglu
[08:43] <zorglu_> SDY: next time you run linux, put the output of "ip addr; ip -s link; ip route" all those command in a file readable from window
[08:43] <SDY> zorglu: anything else?
[08:43] <zorglu_> SDY: and put the output of "sudo iptables -L" in a file too
[08:43] <zorglu_> that's the only one i see...
[08:43] <zorglu_> thinking...
[08:44] <zorglu_> SDY: ok copy the /var/log/messages and /var/log/dmesg too
[08:44] <fdoving> and maybe /etc/network/interfaces too
[08:44] <zorglu_> fdoving: you see other ?
[08:44] <david> am I being a total n00b, or has the Alias function dissapeared from Kopete?
[08:44] <zorglu_> good idea :)
[08:45] <zorglu_> SDY: thats the only one i see...
[08:45] <david> (v0.12.3)
[08:45] <fdoving> zorglu_: i can't think of anything more either..
[08:45] <fdoving> brb. eat.
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Alias?
[08:46] <SDY> zorglu & fdoving:  maybe /etc/reso
[08:46] <zorglu_>  /etc/reso ?
[08:46] <zorglu_> i dunno this one :)
[08:46] <SDY> zorglu & fdoving:  maybe /etc/resolf.conf  ?
[08:46] <zorglu_> oh yeah may be good too
[08:47] <zorglu_> SDY: in short you try to gather as many info as you can which may be of use
[08:47] <Arlington> hi! my amarok won't start when i press the icon in start menu but it starts when i use konsole mode and run it using sudo "amarok"
[08:47] <zorglu_> SDY: it will help the 'cant cut/paste or execute cmd' issue
[08:47] <SDY> zorglu & fdoving:  ok, I'll be back in a while!
[08:47] <zorglu_> SDY: you said it was working and now it no more work, correct ?
[08:48] <SDY> zorglu: correct
[08:48] <zorglu_> SDY: finding out what change would be good :)
[08:48] <SDY> zorglu: i will
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Arlington: What about just amarok>
[08:48] <DaSkreech> no sudo?
[08:49] <dimman> hi there how r u???
[08:50] <Arlington> DaSkreech: dosn't start
[08:51] <DaSkreech> Does it throw an error?
[08:52] <Arlington> i'll paste bin it
[08:52] <longmatys> Hi, i have problem with kmix. It just never save the state of sliders. Do you know what with it?
[08:52] <Arlington> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27244/
[08:53] <zorglu_> q. am i the only one to see truncated output from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[08:53] <gemidjy> are Dapper artoworks for OO.org and GIMP avl somewhere?
[08:53] <zorglu_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[08:54] <zorglu_> !baddevice
[08:54] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[08:54] <Arlington> but it worked earlier today and i havn't changed anything.
[08:54] <zorglu_> Arlington: it will help the baddevice stuff. not directly related to your problem thor
[08:54] <zorglu_> well something changed :)
[08:54] <Arlington> zorglu_: i know you showed me taht earlier
[08:55] <m_tadeu> why my CTL+ESC does not show the process window?
[08:55] <zorglu_> because you forgot the r between ct and l :)
[08:55] <dimman> hi i'm new user with kubuntu
[08:55] <dimman> may i ask a quest?
[08:56] <zorglu_> Arlington: i dont see any obvious error in your output
[08:56] <zorglu_> !ask
[08:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:56] <dimman> ok
[08:56] <dimman> :)
[08:56] <Arlington> okay well amarok dosn't start .-(
[08:56] <m_tadeu> hehe
[08:56] <shanky> good night
[08:56] <longmatys> Do anyone know about the kmix  problem?
[08:57] <dimman> i have a big database in ntfs what i can do to make some changes with kubu?
[08:57] <zorglu_> dimman: your question is very unclear :)
[08:57] <zorglu_> !ntfs
[08:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:57] <m_tadeu> longmatys: the one about the volume and the keyboard?
[08:57] <dimman> ok make again
[08:58] <zorglu_> dimman: what is this database
[08:58] <zorglu_> !gr
[08:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[08:58] <dimman> i want to del or add some pic in ntfs partision
[08:58] <zorglu_> dimman: just in case you feel more confortable with 'other alphabets' :)
[08:59] <dimman> thks!!!
[08:59] <m_tadeu> but there should be a shortcut for the process window, right?
[08:59] <dimman> :)
[08:59] <shanky> which is the configuration tool for scanners in kubuntu?
[08:59] <zorglu_> dimman: oh ok, you want to access ntfs
[08:59] <longmatys> m_tadey: I dont know about keyboard problem. but my kmix doesnt save its state on close. If I start it again all my changes are forgotten
[08:59] <longmatys> It is very easily reproducible
[08:59] <zorglu_> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ <- dimman it may be of help
[08:59] <dimman> i have the access but not the right to change!!!
[08:59] <dimman> thanks friend!!!
[09:00] <longmatys> I tried few scripts for saving and restoring mixers, but none works
[09:00] <m_tadeu> longmatys: try to delete the config files
[09:00] <longmatys> ?
[09:00] <zorglu_> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-3g <- this is supposed to provide read and write access dimman
[09:00] <longmatys> Which one? rm- a /etc/* :)
[09:00] <dimman> thanks friend!!!
[09:00] <dimman> :)
[09:00] <dimman> :)
[09:01] <longmatys> It doesnt work for 2 users on the same machine
[09:01] <m_tadeu> longmatys: /home/you/.kde/share/config
[09:01] <longmatys> ok, i
[09:01] <longmatys> ll try it
[09:02] <fdoving> logankoester: don't delete anything in /etc/ unless you know what it is.
[09:02] <megamasterx> Hello everyone
[09:02] <m_tadeu> does anyone know where to config the shortcut do the process window?
[09:03] <MegaMasterX> I need a free VB.NET IDE for kubuntu.....all the ones I found are shareware...
[09:03] <asmo674hurt> how to set up original usplash?
[09:04] <longmatys> m_tadeu: i looked at .kde/share/apps and there are other configs too. I don't want loose my konsole setting and others. Can you more specify which configs to delete?
[09:04] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: kmenu -> system config -> region && access -> keyboard hortcut  -> short task manager
[09:05] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: up to you to fix the typo :)
[09:05] <m_tadeu> longmatys: delete only the ones trlated to kmix :)
[09:05] <BonBonTheJon> MegaMasterX: you can't program in vb .NET in linux
[09:05] <m_tadeu> zorglu_: thanx a lot :)
[09:05] <MegaMasterX> I can't?
[09:05] <dimman> Q: how can i add programme in kubu?
[09:05] <fdoving> asmo674hurt: in konsole 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so'
[09:06] <longmatys> There are my configs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27245/ I don
[09:06] <BonBonTheJon> MegaMasterX: you can program in C# using Mono, but .NET needs a run time which Microsoft hasn't made available except in Windows
[09:06] <zorglu_> !apt
[09:06] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:06] <longmatys> 't see any related to kmix...:(
[09:06] <asmo674hurt> fdoving, thnx!
[09:06] <zorglu_> dimman: the above link is for you
[09:06] <MegaMasterX> >.< I don't want to learn C...
[09:06] <dimman> thks!!!!!!
[09:06] <dimman> :)))
[09:07] <longmatys> A can't understand how to use adept. All I need is console aptitude - excelent search facility
[09:07] <maryen> fdoving: where is my Edgy RC1 >:(
[09:07] <BonBonTheJon> MegaMasterX: C# is similar to vb
[09:07] <fdoving> maryen: it's here tomorrow.
[09:07] <BonBonTheJon> !mono
[09:07] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[09:07] <maryen> it was delayed?
[09:07] <MegaMasterX> I got mono, but I don't know how to run it
[09:08] <gemidjy> BonBonTheJon: no sh*t, c# is far away from vb
[09:10] <longmatys> It seems I will build my own kmix and trace down, where is an error. I even tried kmixctrl for saving state, but it never worked too
[09:10] <Hexidigital> anyone using the app kxdocker that can tell me where the .xml config file should be located?
[09:11] <BonBonTheJon> MegaMasterX: try http://www.mono-project.com/GtkSharpBeginnersGuide for a tutorial
[09:11] <MegaMasterX> ok
[09:11] <dimman> Q: the console says that i'm not a root-user
[09:11] <dimman> it needs a pss!
[09:11] <MegaMasterX> use sudo
[09:11] <m_tadeu> longmatys: there are several config files for kmix...did you tryed to deletem them all?
[09:12] <MegaMasterX> dimman: Example: sudo chmod +x name_of_file
[09:12] <MegaMasterX> just to name one
[09:12] <dimman> the sudo was for me???
[09:12] <MegaMasterX> yea
[09:12] <MegaMasterX> Use it before your commands
[09:12] <dimman> and then?
[09:12] <MegaMasterX> >.> Continue with what you were doing
[09:12] <longmatys> m_tadeu: I didn't find even one of them
[09:12] <MegaMasterX> Thing about sudo is that you have to enter the root password only once.
[09:12] <dimman> i want to install a prog
[09:12] <rag> zorglu: are there?
[09:12] <dimman> type: sudo
[09:12] <MegaMasterX> yea
[09:13] <MegaMasterX> just sudo
[09:13] <dimman> apt- get install
[09:13] <MegaMasterX> yea
[09:13] <dimman> ?
[09:13] <MegaMasterX> sudo apt-get install
[09:13] <rag> zorglu_: are there?
[09:13] <dimman> thanks!!!!
[09:13] <dimman> :)
[09:13] <MegaMasterX> np
[09:13] <dimman> :)
[09:13] <rag> zorglu_: look this, Allow secure, authenticated remote access, file transfer, and command execution without having to remember passwords for each individual host you connect to
[09:13] <m_tadeu> longmatys: weird...I have 3 on config dir
[09:13] <rag> zorglu_: but it ask me for a passphrase
[09:13] <BonBonTheJon> MegaMasterX: heres another article for you http://visualbasic.about.com/b/a/102482.htm
[09:14] <longmatys> I found them, they are in .kde/share/config
[09:14] <zorglu_> rag: just press enter :)
[09:14] <dimman> MEGA that is the message:Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[09:14] <MegaMasterX> :O
[09:14] <MegaMasterX> You're still trying the apt-install, correct?
[09:15] <MegaMasterX> Did it prompt you for your root password?
[09:15] <rag> zorglu_: if i press enter... without type passphrase, prompt me for normal passwd root
[09:15] <longmatys> I delete them, but it didn't work
[09:15] <rag> zorglu_: please help me, now ten minutes i am a teacher for a class
[09:16] <zorglu_> rag: then you did something wrong somewhere :) i do it everyday without ssh asking me anything
[09:16] <rag> zorglu_: gnu/linux of course... i fight for it, always!
[09:16] <m_tadeu> longmatys: did you restart kmix?
[09:16] <longmatys> rag: I think, that better is to change your sudoers file to allow you use all commands without prompting for password
[09:16] <m_tadeu> longmatys: after deleting?
[09:16] <BonBonTheJon> dimman: you need to do 'sudo apt-get install program' and insert program name
[09:16] <dimman> i type "sudo enter then apt-get install captive-static-1.1.7-0.rpm enter
[09:16] <dimman> is that correct?
[09:16] <MegaMasterX> no
[09:16] <rag> zorglu_: ok, no passphrase , no passwd, on your systems?
[09:16] <MegaMasterX> type this together:
[09:16] <MegaMasterX> sudo apt-get install AppName
[09:16] <longmatys> m_tadeu: sure. Stop it, delete them. Run it, change it, close, run - changes are gone... :(
[09:16] <BonBonTheJon> dimman: you need a .deb file
[09:17] <MegaMasterX> Depends.
[09:17] <zorglu_> rag: exactly, and i followed the insttruction from the page i gave you
[09:17] <dimman> ok wait to do!
[09:17] <rag> zorglu_; sudoers file not possible, it is for a public access center ;-)
[09:17] <MegaMasterX> Dimman: sudo apt-get install AppName
[09:17] <BonBonTheJon> MegaMasterX: he's trying to apt-get an .rpm file
[09:17] <rag> zorglu_; ok, your system not ask you for a passfhrase?
[09:17] <dimman> it needs a password!
[09:18] <MegaMasterX> Type the root password!
[09:18] <MegaMasterX> :)
[09:18] <rag> zorglu_: enter directly?
[09:18] <BonBonTheJon> dimman: your password
[09:18] <dimman> nowhere in istallation asks me for root pass!
[09:18] <MegaMasterX> Type it in.
[09:18] <rag> zorglu_: ok, read this Allow secure, authenticated remote access, file transfer, and command execution without having to remember passwords for each individual host you connect to
[09:19] <BonBonTheJon> dimman: with 'sudo' you type in your password
[09:19] <rag> zorglu_: i think that this solution is for one passwd many hosts
[09:19] <TheGateKeeper> dimman: if you are trying to install a rpm then you need to use alien, & be warned even after you have installed it it may well not work
[09:20] <rag> zorglu_: for many hosts, one passfhrase for many hosts, without remember root passwd of each machine
[09:20] <dimman> kubu what type of progr. needs to work?
[09:22] <rag> zorglu_: please confirm me
[09:22] <rag> zorglu_: my linux class, other moment i enter here, ok? thanks zorglu!!! a lot
[09:24] <fjsanchez> Hi
[09:24] <fjsanchez> Where can I set up the parameters of my samba network throught interface?
[09:25] <fjsanchez> I can modify it in smb.conf
[09:25] <fjsanchez> But I'd like to know where are these parameters set alreaady
[09:26] <BonBonTheJon> fjsanchez: if you edited smb.conf then do 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' to restart samba
[09:26] <fjsanchez> No, it's not the problem
[09:26] <fjsanchez> I'd like to know where KDE set the default parameters
[09:27] <fjsanchez> In my smb.conf there are no workgroup or description tags
[09:27] <gemidjy> are Dapper artoworks for OO.org and GIMP avl somewhere?
[09:27] <fjsanchez> But them appear
[09:27] <gemidjy> artworks*
[09:29] <BonBonTheJon> fjsanchez: i dont understand, can you rephrase the question
[09:29] <fjsanchez> Ok, sorry for my english
[09:30] <fjsanchez> I'd like to know if KDE has any dialog where I can change my workgroup or description shown in samba
[09:32] <fdoving> fjsanchez: kmenu -> run command -> type 'kcmshell kcmsambaconf' and press enter.
[09:34] <BonBonTheJon> fjsanchez: there you go, I was looking it up
[09:34] <fjsanchez> This is what I was looking for
[09:34] <fjsanchez> Thankyou very much
[09:34] <fdoving> you're welcome :)
[09:34] <alejandro> anybody knows how to solve the konq_iconview problem of kde 3.5.5 ??
[09:40] <Rakzor> Does anyone know why Kubuntu won't let me mount a hard drive?
[09:40] <SDY> fdofing: hey, I'm back
[09:41] <dhq> sudo pear upgrade     PEAR-1.3.5 Did not download dependencies: pear/XML_RPC, use --alldeps or --onlyreqdeps to download automatically pear/PEAR requires package "pear/XML_RPC" (version >= 1.0.4) No valid packages found upgrade failed
[09:41] <icheyne> Rakzor, because you haven't got your fstab fixed up?
[09:41] <Rakzor> Uh, what's that?
[09:41] <icheyne> it's a file that controls your mounts
[09:42] <icheyne> it's not *too* difficult to configure
[09:42] <Rakzor> Ah, how would I set it up?
[09:42] <icheyne> but it's a bore
[09:42] <icheyne> wish Linux would set it up automatically
[09:42] <icheyne> :(
[09:42] <Sanne> hi
[09:42] <Rakzor> =(
[09:42] <icheyne> there are loads of tutorials on the web
[09:42] <icheyne> seriously
[09:42] <Rakzor> Ah kk
[09:42] <icheyne> it's a common problem
[09:42] <icheyne> it's not rocket science at all
[09:42] <Rakzor> w00t, at least I know I didn't do anything wrong.
[09:42] <icheyne> just got to configure a few switches
[09:42] <icheyne> /etc/fstab
[09:44] <Rakzor> Thanks, by the way.
[09:45] <SDY> fblinding: Are you there?
[09:45] <SlimG> does the command "$ dpkg --print-architecture" on a 64bit cpu (regardless of amd/intel) return "amd64" ?
[09:46] <trappist> yes
[09:46] <trappist> SlimG: ^
[09:46] <trappist> err, well, it does on amd64
[09:46] <SlimG> trappist: Thanx :)
[09:46] <trappist> I don't have an intel box handy :)
[09:46] <SDY> !nl
[09:46] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[09:49] <BonBonTheJon> trappist: intel returns i386
[09:50] <fdoving> BonBonTheJon: not EMT64s
[09:51] <BonBonTheJon> fdoving: what?
[09:51] <fdoving> when running on a 64bit distro, that is.
[09:51] <fdoving> BonBonTheJon: when running intel 64bits on a 64bit kubuntu it won't return i386.
[09:51] <BonBonTheJon> fdoving: oh, disregard, I dont have 64-bit
[09:52] <SDY> fdoving: i've checked evrything you sayd, what do you need to know to give me some answers ;)
[09:53] <fdoving> SDY: i need you to put it all online, as zorgul said.
[09:53] <fdoving> SDY: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:54] <dhq> how to install to pear1.4.11
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> !perl
[09:54] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.8.7-10ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3219 kB, installed size 11172 kB
[09:54] <SDY> fdoving: ok
[09:55] <SDY> F
[09:56] <SDY> fdoving: what do you want exactly, 'cause messages is like 245 pages
[09:56] <dhq> fdoving: how to install to pear1.4.11
[09:56] <fdoving> dhq: pear ?
[09:57] <fdoving> SDY: first the output of the 3 ip commands.
[09:57] <dhq> fdoving: yes
[09:57] <fdoving> dhq: what is pear?
[09:57] <dhq> !pear
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <fdoving> dhq: php pear?
[09:58] <logankoester> Is there anything like a recursive ls?
[09:58] <dhq> fdoving: sudo pear upgrade     PEAR-1.3.5 Did not download dependencies: pear/XML_RPC, use --alldeps or --onlyreqdeps to download automatically pear/PEAR requires package "pear/XML_RPC" (version >= 1.0.4) No valid packages found upgrade failed
[09:58] <fdoving> logankoester: yes, add -R
[09:58] <|lostbyte|> php4-pear - PHP Extension and Application Repository (transitional package)
[09:58] <LjL> logankoester: man find
[09:58] <logankoester> fdoving: thanks
[09:58] <DaSkreech> Can I purge the recovered documents from Open office?
[09:59] <dhq> |lostbyte|: its not php pear
[09:59] <dhq> its php base system something like that
[09:59] <fdoving> dhq: what pear is this? can you give a homepage or something?
[09:59] <dhq> fdoving: http://pear.php.net/package/PEAR/docs/1.4.11/li_PEAR.html
[10:00] <dhq> fdoving: http://pear.php.net/package/PEAR
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> its definitly php pear.
[10:00] <fdoving> dhq: so it's php-pear then.
[10:00] <dhq> ok may be
[10:01] <fdoving> dhq: try package php4-pear or php-pear (php 5.x)
[10:01] <dhq> how do i install it now
[10:01] <dhq> yes
[10:01] <|lostbyte|> there you go ^^
[10:01] <fdoving> use adept, or apt-get on the commandline.
[10:05] <chris_kub> hi, i got problems with ati x1400. I installed the drivers but when i use fglrxinfo it only put Mesa... and i cant get a higher resolution than 640x . Thanks
[10:05] <MuJ> you're welcome
[10:06] <DaSkreech> Can I purge the recovered documents from Open office?
[10:07] <fdoving> DaSkreech: what do you mean? remove them from the list of recoverable documents?
[10:07] <DaSkreech> Anytime openoffice starts up there are list of "recoverable files" all of which I either don't care about or I recovered a long time ago
[10:07] <DaSkreech> can I purge those?
[10:07] <chris_kub> hi, i got problems with ati x1400. I installed the drivers but when i use fglrxinfo it only put Mesa... and i cant get a higher resolution than 640x . Please, any idea?
[10:09] <DaSkreech> fdoving: Have any idea what I'm talking about?
[10:09] <fdoving> DaSkreech: understand what you want. but i don't have a clue on openoffice
[10:10] <DaSkreech> Don't make me join #ubuntu :-P
[10:10] <icheyne> has anyone found a good podcatcher?
[10:10] <icheyne> ipodder keeps crashing
[10:10] <fdoving> DaSkreech: i'm searching :)
[10:10] <icheyne> gpodder crashes too
[10:11] <icheyne> the ipodder replacement - can't remember name
[10:11] <icheyne> also crashes
[10:11] <icheyne> :(
[10:11] <SDY> fdoving: It's online, here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27258/
[10:11] <DaSkreech> icheyne: podcatcher?
[10:12] <icheyne> podcast downloader
[10:13] <DaSkreech> icheyne: And you don't like amarok?
[10:13] <icheyne> no
[10:13] <icheyne> DaSkreech, I want a stand-alone one
[10:13] <DaSkreech> icheyne: doesn't akregator do that as well?
[10:14] <icheyne> oh yes?
[10:14] <icheyne> hmm
[10:14] <icheyne> DaSkreech, thanks I'll try that
[10:14] <icheyne> DaSkreech, should have thought of that originally. It's sort of obvious. I'll give it a go.
[10:16] <DaSkreech> icheyne: If it doesn't follow the obvious don't blame me! :)
[10:16] <icheyne> DaSkreech, heh K.I.S.S
[10:19] <fdoving> DaSkreech: no clue, tried #openoffice.org if it exists?
[10:19] <fdoving> SDY: can you run 'ping 192.168.1.1' from the commandline?
[10:20] <SDY> fdoving: yes but it fails
[10:20] <fdoving> SDY: what nic is this?
[10:21] <SDY> fdoving: explain nic?
[10:22] <fdoving> SDY: network interface card
[10:24] <SDY> fdoving: onboard lan
[10:24] <fdoving> SDY: do you have the output of 'lspci -v' in that file?
[10:25] <fdoving> SDY: i see that you get RX, but the TX are 100% dropped.
[10:26] <SDY> fdoving: this is all i have exept for the messages file and dmesg
[10:26] <fdoving> SDY: can you upload the dmesg file somewhere?
[10:28] <SDY> fdoving: I think I can
[10:29] <SDY> fdoving: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27260/
[10:30] <barjoh10> whats up
[10:31] <barjoh10> hrello
[10:31] <DaSkreech> hi
[10:31] <barjoh10> who r u
[10:31] <DaSkreech> I r me
[10:31] <barjoh10> hello
[10:32] <DaSkreech> Hello
[10:32] <larson9999> why do the dialogs that have 'yes to all' when asking if you want to overwrite, usually not have a 'no to all' button, too?
[10:32] <barjoh10> realy who r u
[10:32] <fdoving> SDY: do you have more than one kernel in the grub boot manager list of kernels?
[10:32] <DaSkreech> larson9999: It has a cancel I think that works the same :)
[10:33] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: try typing /whois DaSkreech
[10:33] <SDY> fdoving: I had till this morning, I commented some out (after the problem occured)
[10:33] <barjoh10> whois DaSkreech
[10:34] <LjL> barjoh10, we're people involved with the Linux distribution called Kubuntu. This is its support channel.
[10:34] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: You need the /
[10:34] <LjL> barjoh10, he meant with a slash. /whois DaSkreech
[10:34] <fdoving> SDY: ok, revert that change, and try some of them (not the recovery mode ones)
[10:34] <barjoh10> ohhh! tell me more
[10:34] <fdoving> SDY: i suspect this might be a driver (kernel module issue).
[10:34] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: try /help
[10:35] <barjoh10> help
[10:35] <LjL> barjoh10, I guess you should go to http://www.ubuntu.com and http://www.kubuntu.com to find out more. anyway, (K)Ubuntu is a distribution of the Linux operating system.
[10:35] <SDY> fdoving: well, i've allready tried that and it diddn't make a difference
[10:35] <fdoving> SDY: hmm.. ok. then i really have no clue. you didn't change any network settings? - only regular updates?
[10:35] <barjoh10> isnt that too much work
[10:36] <barjoh10> what u have me puzzled here
[10:36] <SDY> fdoving: that's right
[10:37] <fdoving> SDY: you can check /var/log/dpkg.log to find out what packages was updated.
[10:37] <fdoving> SDY: that might be usefull.
[10:37] <barjoh10> no!
[10:38] <SDY> fdoving: ok, thanks for the help anyway
[10:38] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: are you in Kubuntu?
[10:38] <barjoh10> is someone speaking to me
[10:38] <paulo> hello all
[10:38] <CVirus> !edgy
[10:38] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:38] <CVirus> !schedule
[10:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:38] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: Yes I am
[10:39] <barjoh10> hello paulo
[10:39] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: are you in Kubuntu?
[10:39] <barjoh10> yes why
[10:39] <DaSkreech> click on the words #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:40] <paulo> anyone know a good tutorial on setting up ssh "safely"?
[10:40] <DaSkreech> paulo: Eh?
[10:40] <DaSkreech> What do you mean safely?
[10:40] <paulo> Set it up to start
[10:40] <barjoh10> yes he is paulo
[10:40] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:40] <barjoh10> will u all fight
[10:41] <barjoh10> keep me out of it OK
[10:41] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: type /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:41] <CVirus> barjoh10: whats your problem ?
[10:41] <paulo> DaSkreech: thats installed already, i'm talking about the config
[10:41] <barjoh10> problem of what
[10:41] <DaSkreech> CVirus: Lost I guess :)
[10:41] <paulo> what i have does not seem to be running
[10:41] <DaSkreech> CVirus: Just needs to go to Offtopic
[10:42] <CVirus> barjoh10: whats your technical problem ?
[10:42] <DaSkreech> paulo: ok what do you want it to do?
[10:42] <barjoh10> ha ha ha ha
[10:42] <callizta> hi @ all
[10:42] <barjoh10> helo
[10:42] <ryanakca> hmm... is are the msn messenger servers down? or is it just kopete?
[10:43] <paulo> example - called girlfriend when i was in work to turn on PC so i can access it, tried in Putty the ip and port 443 (port was set in the config) but i could not login
[10:43] <barjoh10> people talk u know
[10:43] <CVirus> barjoh10: not on channels meant for support
[10:43] <paulo> so there is no connection
[10:43] <barjoh10> what
[10:43] <barjoh10> i think
[10:43] <paulo> shouldn't ssh start as a service before you log in?
[10:44] <fdoving> barjoh10: go to #kubuntu-offtopic for random chat. this channel is reserved to support issues.
[10:44] <Dragonfire1> test
[10:44] <barjoh10> noo
[10:44] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: click on the blue words #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:44] <barjoh10> why
[10:44] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: I'll explain there
[10:44] <Dragonfire1> cool just trying kubuntu
[10:44] <paulo> barhoh try the command /disco
[10:44] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: You won't leave here but do that and I'll explain
[10:44] <barjoh10> allright DaSkreech
[10:45] <barjoh10> but why
[10:45] <paulo> anyone wanna help with ssh?
[10:45] <barjoh10> no
[10:45] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: type /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:45] <fdoving> paulo: what's your ssh problem?
[10:45] <barjoh10> why
[10:45] <DaSkreech> paulo: How do you know it's not working?
[10:45] <paulo> should ssh start as a service before you log in?
[10:46] <barjoh10> calm down people
[10:46] <fdoving> paulo: yes.
[10:46] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: type /join #kubuntu-offtopic and I'll explain more
[10:46] <CVirus> barjoh10: welcome to my ignore list ... idiot
[10:46] <paulo> DaSkreech: because when my girlfriend turned on the PC i was still getting connection timeout error
[10:46] <DaSkreech> paulo: On what?
[10:47] <DaSkreech> Dragonfire1: Welcome
[10:47] <paulo> and i did a port scan
[10:47] <paulo> no open ports
[10:47] <fdoving> paulo: do you have a public IP on your linux box, or does it connect to a router/modem to get internet?
[10:47] <paulo> (port scan from work)
[10:48] <paulo> fdoving: wireless modem
[10:48] <comtechsystems> has anyone been getting lots of Xorg freezes with edgy?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> nope
[10:48] <Dragonfire1> thanks trying I like so far have sound LOL
[10:48] <fdoving> paulo: then you'll have to setup some portforwarding in the wireless modem/router.
[10:48] <fdoving> comtechsystems: no, xorg is very nice to me in edgy.
[10:48] <paulo> no web interface or anything it configure
[10:48] <Dragonfire1> looks easirr tehn ubuntu
[10:49] <paulo> just plug in and instant internet
[10:49] <paulo> i managed to do it before the other day but not since i changed my ssh port number
[10:50] <DaSkreech> paulo: if you have a modem/router in between you and the internet then you are going to need to do some port forwarding
[10:50] <paulo> DaSkreech: there is no NAT or anything like that
[10:51] <fdoving> paulo: if you run 'ip addr' you don't get anything matching 192.168.x.x, 172.16.x.x, 10.x.x.x ?
[10:52] <DaSkreech> paulo: So what is the IP of the machine you installed openssh-server on?
[10:52] <paulo> nope
[10:53] <fdoving> paulo: is it the pc you're using now?
[10:53] <paulo> yeah
[10:53] <fdoving> paulo: if that's the case, your ssh is working just fine, on port 22.
[10:53] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Umm
[10:53] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Hi?
[10:53] <ravaria> hy guys... where can i find god protection por my computer??
[10:53] <paulo> on 22?
[10:53] <DShepherd> hi
[10:53] <paulo> i set it to 443
[10:53] <paulo> cannot get out on 22 in work
[10:54] <DaSkreech> ravaria: Unplug the keyboard and mouse and network cords
[10:54] <icheyne> DaSkreech, No podcast support in akregator :o( - I'll keep looking.....
[10:54] <paulo> haha
[10:54] <ravaria> hahahha
[10:54] <ravaria> god advice
[10:54] <DShepherd> ravaria: condoms?
[10:54] <ravaria> no men
[10:54] <fdoving> paulo: then restart it. 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart'
[10:54] <ravaria> my computer...
[10:55] <DShepherd> ravaria: computer condoms?
[10:55] <ravaria> i mean antyvirus and stuff
[10:55] <DaSkreech> icheyne: What does it do when pointed at a podcast?
[10:55] <gemidjy> engrish h3rz
[10:55] <paulo> fdoving: done
[10:56] <DShepherd> ravaria: well.. ubuntu is quite secure by default.
[10:56] <fdoving> paulo: it's still running on port 22.
[10:56] <icheyne> DaSkreech, just the webpage of the podcast. It does not grab the enclosed mp3 or ogg
[10:56] <paulo> why?? arrrrrrrgh!
[10:57] <DaSkreech> icheyne: Hmm ok
[10:57] <DShepherd> ravaria: but you insist on instaling antivirus and stuff.. there exists clamAv and firestarter.. though I dont think you willl need them
[10:57] <DaSkreech> icheyne: Want to ask in #kde for a more informed opinion?
[10:57] <icheyne> oh yes please
[10:57] <icheyne> I'm going to try kitty
[10:58] <fdoving> paulo: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config change 'Port 22' to 'Port 443' and restart ssh with 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart'
[10:59] <DaSkreech> icheyne: Who?
[10:59] <ravaria> thanks for th advice
[11:00] <paulo> ok thanks
[11:00] <paulo> i edited ssh_config before :P
[11:00] <icheyne> DaSkreech, http://www.kesiev.com/kittyguide/home
[11:00] <paulo> and whats the best way to secure it more?
[11:00] <icheyne> DaSkreech, no deb but I'll try compiling it
[11:01] <trappist> paulo: to secure it more than what?
[11:02] <icheyne> DaSkreech, looks like liferea supports them too
[11:02] <DaSkreech> oh.. Apt-get install lifeera then :)
[11:02] <SlimG> Does anyone have a xpm/png logo for Warow ? (warsow.xpm)
[11:03] <icheyne> DaSkreech, I'm going to try getdeb.net before apt-get :)
[11:03] <archangel_>  any use a ipod with linux?
[11:04] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I need to enable direct rending, but I don't know how. I figure I'm in the wrong place, but I don't know where to start, as I don't even really know what handles 'direct rendering'.
[11:04] <Digital_Pioneer> As you can probably guess, I use Kubuntu...
[11:04] <archangel_> how do you get pics on the ipod? I put some on there directly but they dont show up on the ipod.
[11:04] <paulo> trappist: secure it more then default settings
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Digital_Pioneer: What Video card do you have?
[11:05] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: I don't know much about such a situation, but how do you connect to your iPod?
[11:05] <Digital_Pioneer> DaSkreech: It's an Intel 845G chipset.
[11:05] <trappist> SlimG: if one of these matches, grab it and convert it: http://images.google.com/images?as_q=warsow&imgsz=icon
[11:05] <archangel_> as a device
[11:05] <trappist> paulo: two big ones: disallow root login, and set up your keys and turn off password authentication
[11:05] <archangel_> (like accessing a hd)
[11:06] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: I can tell you that almost definitely you are putting those images in the wrong place.
[11:06] <paulo> how to disallow root?
[11:06] <archangel_> yeah I kinda figured that out
[11:06] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Devices like iPods don't just store stuff like images and music, they also store an entire computer.
[11:06] <archangel_> I need to know what folder to put the pics in
[11:06] <paulo> and i can still sudo to do what i need yeah?
[11:06] <trappist> paulo: check PermitRootLogin in your sshd_config
[11:06] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Just tossing something in there won't work. The computer won't know what to do with it.
[11:06] <trappist> paulo: yeah, it just keeps root from logging in via ssh
[11:07] <paulo> cool as a mofo
[11:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am so frustrated..... practically there's no way of having a linux machine and being able to mantain coordination / sync between all the contacts
[11:07] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Well, try Googling for iPod hacking. That's my best recommendation. You'll probably find somewhere how to hack images in without using Mac's software.
[11:07] <archangel_> there are folders for calander, music, notes, everything but pics
[11:07] <DaSkreech> Digital_Pioneer: What are you enabling DRI for?
[11:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> on cellphones, kontact and gmail
[11:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am soooooo frustrated
[11:07] <Digital_Pioneer> DaSkreech: I've got a game that wants it.
[11:07] <Digital_Pioneer> :] 
[11:07] <DaSkreech> Digital_Pioneer: Best place is #ubuntu-xgl
[11:08] <Digital_Pioneer> DaSkreech: OK, thanks a million!
[11:08] <DaSkreech> Pretty sure they will have you sorted in 20 minutes
[11:08] <archangel_> if I use iTunes, its all done by the software, but I dont know enought about amarak to use pics (IF that can be done)
[11:08] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: I use bitpim for my cellphone contacts, which can export to several kontact-friendly formats - dunno about gmail though
[11:08] <Digital_Pioneer> DaSkreech: Sweet, thanks a ton!
[11:08] <gemidjy> where can I find the default Dapper splashscreen's for GIMP & OO.org ?
[11:08] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: AmaroK is a music player. I'm listening to it right now. :)
[11:08] <archangel_> Digital_Pioneer: thanks dude
[11:09] <Acidic32> !dapper update
[11:09] <Acidic32> !dapper-update
[11:09] <Digital_Pioneer> It only handles album art as images go.
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapper update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapper-update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <trappist> Acidic32: do you have a question?
[11:10] <archangel_> Digital_Pioneer: it is also Linux version of iTunes
[11:10] <archangel_> works great with it Digital_Pioneer
[11:10] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Let's take this to private conversation, shall we?
[11:11] <archangel_> sure
[11:11] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: That _is_ a registered nick isn't it? You don't seem to be getting my PMs.
[11:11] <archangel_> I get yours
[11:11] <archangel_> I just cant send any
[11:12] <paulo> !pants
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pants - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: OK, that makes sense.
[11:12] <Acidic32> yea
[11:12] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Do you have any IMs?
[11:12] <Acidic32> how i enable dapper update
[11:12] <archangel_> kopete
[11:12] <archangel_> accepted1
[11:12] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Protocol/ID?
[11:12] <barjoh10> hey dudes i am back
[11:13] <Digital_Pioneer> Acidic32: Update? As in aptitude upgrade type update?
[11:13] <DaSkreech> !register > archangel_
[11:13] <DaSkreech> Acidic32: Sorry?
[11:13] <archangel_> no idea man, just put my screen name in and you can talk to me
[11:13] <barjoh10> no archangel nooooooooooo
[11:14] <fdoving> Acidic32: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu can help you.
[11:14] <archangel_> ? what the heck are you guys saying???      lol
[11:14] <Digital_Pioneer> Acidic32: Have you looked at /etc/apt/sources.list? It should tell you something about it.
[11:14] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Do you use Kopete with AIM? Yahoo?
[11:15] <archangel_> kopete
[11:15] <fdoving> !language > archangel_
[11:15] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: OK, I'll do my best to find you... ;)
[11:15] <archangel_> k
[11:15] <archangel_> its easy program to use
[11:15] <archangel_> brb
[11:16] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: It's your username with or without _?
[11:19] <stefano> ciao
[11:19] <archangel_> name on kopete is accepted1
[11:19] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Ohhh!
[11:20] <LjL> !it
[11:20] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:20] <archangel_> hey is heck a 'no-no' word?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> Depends on the admin who is on I guess
[11:21] <archangel_> ahh
[11:22] <Acidic32> !adept-crash-fixc
[11:22] <Acidic32> !adept-crash-fix
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash-fixc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[11:33] <JosefK> hey guys - the only complaint I really have with Kubuntu is the default Konsole font (and the way seemingly all the fonts look a bit cack), anyone have a link to a Monospace font that looks half-decent in Konsole?
[11:33] <DaSkreech> cack?
[11:33] <ghost> hello
[11:33] <JosefK> UK colloquialism, roughly translates to 'poor'
[11:34] <DaSkreech> as in Blurry? Looks like a drunken snail formed it? Not enough curves?
[11:34] <JosefK> almost exactly :)
[11:34] <ghost> i just installed xfce desktop environment on kubuntu dapper and i was wondering  if there was a help channel for it?
[11:35] <JosefK> actually, first time I've installed it on this system, and Courier 10 Pitch seems to be okay here
[11:35] <vge> JosefK: i just use bitstream vera sans mono
[11:37] <icheyne> JosefK, the deja fonts are good
[11:37] <JosefK> vge: I guess this could just be me switching from Gnome, I'll get used to how Konsole renders text in time
[11:37] <SlimG> Where is the app-images that pop up in Katapult located? they seem like highres or vector, I thought it was the icons in /usr/share/app-install/icons but they are merely 48x48 png's
[11:38] <vge> i just wanna know how i disable mousewheel in taskbar changing windows? grrr
[11:39] <JosefK> vge: Panel Properties -> Taskbar -> Middle Button
[11:40] <JosefK> vge: there doesn't seem to be an option to 'disable' the middle button, but you might be able to choose something less annoying?
[11:40] <icheyne> JosefK, this should helpl you with fonts http://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/Font.html#intro
[11:41] <JosefK> icheyne: thanks :)
[11:41] <icheyne> JosefK, np
[11:41] <vge> JosefK: and chaning that option to something else dont change the fact that you can still switch windows by using mousewheel in taskbar?
[11:42] <JosefK> vge: :/ <-- unsure
[11:43] <vge> JosefK: i think it's the wheelbutton that's beeing confiqured, not the mousewheel itself
[11:44] <willwork4foo> hiya! I'm trying to find a decent howto for installing kubuntu over a PXE network boot?
[11:44] <willwork4foo> can anyone help me out here?
[11:45] <JosefK> willwork4foo: this is from the Ubuntu wiki - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=PXEInstall - but I've never tried it, so good luck :)
[11:46] <mir> hi
[11:47] <malcolm> I've installed the jre, and some java apps work, but others say that there's no valid jre on the computer, I remember fixing this error b4 but can't remember how i did it, can someone help me(i do know i added a few lines to some file)?
[11:48] <barjoh10> hi miri
[11:48] <JosefK> if you installed the Sun JRE, did you run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java && sudo update-alternatives --config jar' too?
[11:51] <malcolm> i just ran that line and the location to my jre isn't in the list
[11:51] <barjoh10> someone
[11:51] <JosefK> malcolm: ack :/ did you not install it using apt?
[11:52] <malcolm> i think so
[11:52] <JosefK> malcolm: hmm, if you did, it should be in that list.  if it still won't work, you can set it explicitly using 'sudo update-alternatives --set java *path-to-java-binary*', same for jar's
[11:52] <malcolm> no i didn't
[11:53] <JosefK> malcolm: heh ;) take it off, add the 'multiverse' repository to apt, and install the sun-java5-jre package
[11:53] <malcolm> i downloaded a file and executed it
[11:53] <JosefK> malcolm: hopefully it's left an uninstaller, if not, it's probably safer to leave it to rot in a corner of your filesystem
[11:54] <barjoh10> miri
[11:54] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: Miri left
[11:54] <shadowhywind> anybody have any ideas on how to get an IP from wireless network.. my laptop sees the wireless but refuses to grab an ip
[11:55] <barjoh10> i thought
[11:55] <barjoh10> u
[11:55] <barjoh10> were vex with me
[11:56] <DaSkreech> Me?
[11:56] <DaSkreech> Why?
[11:56] <barjoh10> daskreech
[11:56] <DaSkreech> Annoyed maybe but no reason to get vexed
[11:56] <CVirus> shadowhywind: sudo dhclient ethx
[11:57] <barjoh10> sory if i hurt u OK
[11:57] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: I'm not hurt :) You are just young is all
[11:57] <DaSkreech> Nothing that time doesn't heal :)
[11:57] <LjL> you wish
[11:57] <barjoh10> whatu mean abot too young
[11:58] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: Thats why I said it would be fun to have you save the log so you can read it in 20 years
[11:59] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: Nothing you are just young is all
[11:59] <barjoh10>  no iam63
[11:59] <CVirus> barjoh10: you're too old then
[11:59] <CVirus> DaSkreech: you could have just ignored him from the beginning
[12:00] <barjoh10> hahahahahahahah..........(hey)
[12:00] <DaSkreech> Heehee
[12:00] <DaSkreech> CVirus: Don't think that ignoring the young helps them or me
[12:00] <CVirus> DaSkreech: at least it helps you
[12:00] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: That's why you left the offtopic room?
[12:01] <barjoh10> lets go to the oofchat or something
[12:01] <barjoh10> yes lts go there
[12:02] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: I'm there already :)
[12:02] <DaSkreech> barjoh10: /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:02] <izzyb_> !blacklist
[12:02] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[12:02] <barjoh10> yyyeeeeeeeessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!
[12:03] <izzyb_> hmm, I don't have my_blacklist, but do have a file called blacklist, and a few others (blacklist-*)
[12:04] <izzyb_> I tried adding the blacklist modulename to the blacklist file, but it doesn't seem tot work
[12:04] <izzyb_> should I create the my_blacklist file instead? how does it differ from the file blacklist?
[12:10] <pacman> anyone familiar with getting a printer set up?