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| sladen | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo needs a redirect, It's fifth for http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+livecd+customise | 06:08 |
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| Burgundavia | sladen: fix it | 06:08 |
| Burgundavia | it is a wiki | 06:08 |
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| Burgundavia | 'cause we haven't thought about that much | 06:09 |
| sladen | This probably requires a visit to the 404 logs | 06:10 |
| nixternal | <Admiral_Chicago> well i'm going to hang out with gorgeous women | 06:37 |
| nixternal | <OmniColos> hope you have your popup blocker installed AC | 06:37 |
| nixternal | doh | 06:37 |
| nixternal | wrong chan | 06:37 |
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| Madpilot | nixternal, no, that could have gone into nearly any IRC channel ;) | 06:42 |
| nixternal | ya, but i try to stay "somewhat on topic" around here | 06:43 |
| sladen | oops. the wiki returns 200 Success even for non-existant pages | 06:43 |
| nixternal | my bip server died..so im back with local irc, and my channel locations are goofy | 06:43 |
| sladen | nixternal: /window layout save or somesuch in irssi | 06:44 |
| nixternal | well, with bip, the irc proxy, window layout doesn't work for you, as you get your layout from the server | 06:44 |
| nixternal | that way there, no matter how many clients, or which clients i connect with from anywhere in the world, to my server, i get the same setup | 06:44 |
| nixternal | but that server went up in a blaze of glory today due to our wonderful comed electric company | 06:45 |
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| mdke___ | morning | 09:03 |
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| dholbach | hey fellas | 10:30 |
| dholbach | seems there are some .omf files missing in ubuntu-docs 6.10.2 - does anybody know something about them? | 10:30 |
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| nixternal | bug 64245 | 07:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 64245 in kubuntu-docs "Kubuntu Desktop Guide - Video/Kino Using Ubuntu Menu Structure" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64245 | 07:20 |
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| nixternal | i can fix that now, and fix it in everyone of the translation files as well, if that is OK | 07:21 |
| dholbach | it seems there are some .omf files missing in ubuntu-docs 6.10.2 - does anybody know something about them? | 07:38 |
| pepsiman | there are lots of .omf files in svn. (I know nothing about them) | 07:52 |
| dholbach | pepsiman: aroung 6 are installed in ubuntu-docs 6.10.2 | 07:54 |
| dholbach | seems they don't get installed | 07:54 |
| pepsiman | they all reference the C version of the docs (no idea if that matters) | 07:54 |
| nixternal | which docs are missing them? | 07:55 |
| pepsiman | nixternal: all | 07:55 |
| nixternal | doh | 07:55 |
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| nixternal | hmmm...it seems the omf files for the docs are on the svn server | 07:58 |
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| nixternal | not all docs have a omf file mind you | 07:59 |
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| pepsiman | the omf files are there in dapper | 08:23 |
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| nixternal | pepsiman, which guide to be specific? | 08:35 |
| pepsiman | I'll nopaste | 08:36 |
| pepsiman | http://rafb.net/paste/results/4onsZM11.html | 08:37 |
| pepsiman | nixternal: see what I mean? all guides are missing lots of .omf files | 08:42 |
| nixternal | that is because we just put translations into ubuntu | 08:45 |
| nixternal | into edgy rather | 08:45 |
| nixternal | so, if and when they update the ubuntu-docs package for edgy, and grab the latest svn commits, then all of the omf files will be there | 08:46 |
| pepsiman | ubuntu-docs (6.10.2) edgy; urgency=low | 08:47 |
| pepsiman | * Adding translations for all documents | 08:47 |
| pepsiman | This is from the version I have installed | 08:47 |
| pepsiman | -- Matthew East <mdke@ubuntu.com> Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:30:00 +0100 | 08:47 |
| pepsiman | The .omf files were added on Friday the 13th Oct | 08:49 |
| pepsiman | There has been an ubuntu-docs package update since then, they are not in it | 08:49 |
| nixternal | interesting | 08:50 |
| nixternal | there in svn | 08:50 |
| nixternal | i wonder if there is reasoning behind it | 08:50 |
| pepsiman | the .omf files are in the source of the package | 08:56 |
| pepsiman | Only the C .omf files are in debian/install | 08:57 |
| nixternal | hmm...well, we will have to take that up with mdke on why he did it like that | 09:00 |
| pepsiman | dapper's debian/install has ann the .omf files | 09:00 |
| nixternal | im wondering if he just forgot to add them, or if there is some reasoning behind not adding them | 09:00 |
| pepsiman | I think he just forgot | 09:00 |
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| nixternal | ahh. mr. mdke_! ;) hey, i just created patches for Riddell for the Kubuntu Desktop Guide and Release Notes, to fix 2 bugs (also fixed the .pot files included). I did this at the kubuntu-docs package level. Is it alright if I make the changes and commit them on the server? | 10:03 |
| nixternal | i know the desktop guide has been translated, but the fix in it is is <guimenu> fix that should be easy to do for all of them i believe | 10:04 |
| mdke_ | nixternal: erm! | 10:04 |
| mdke_ | you can't change a translated string a week before release, the translators don't have time to do that | 10:04 |
| nixternal | didn't think so | 10:04 |
| nixternal | so leave the edgy branch alone then | 10:04 |
| mdke_ | if he's uploaded already, it's too late | 10:05 |
| nixternal | well, he updated the package | 10:05 |
| mdke_ | if he's uploaded already, it's too late | 10:05 |
| nixternal | actually, the version #'s and urls are translated though are they? | 10:06 |
| nixternal | s/are/aren't | 10:06 |
| mdke_ | entities aren't | 10:06 |
| mdke_ | but if the pot file changed, that means you must have changed a string | 10:06 |
| nixternal | ya, i changed a string...ok, i get it better now | 10:07 |
| mdke_ | nixternal: so he's uploaded the string change? | 10:09 |
| nixternal | mdke_: ok, a little better news, he hasn't uploaded, as he doesn't know if they will get approved | 10:09 |
| nixternal | no he hasn't | 10:09 |
| nixternal | you want me to pull him in here | 10:09 |
| mdke_ | if you like | 10:09 |
| nixternal | ok, i just did | 10:09 |
| nixternal | hrmm..he sure is taking his sweet time ;) | 10:14 |
| nixternal | i told him, that with the changes we made, there wouldn't be enough time for translations, and that when translations do come back, they will only break what we just fixed | 10:15 |
| mdke_ | I don't know about the second part, but the first part is right | 10:16 |
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| nixternal | well, ya, it wouldn't break what we fixed now that i think about it | 10:24 |
| nixternal | since we only fixed the C/ | 10:24 |
| mdke_ | you said you generated a new pot file | 10:24 |
| nixternal | in the source package yes | 10:25 |
| nixternal | mind you, i didn't make changes to svn stuff | 10:25 |
| nixternal | just to the package itself, and would make changes, only if it was OK by you first | 10:25 |
| mdke_ | so the translators will see the untranslated strings | 10:25 |
| nixternal | that is correct | 10:25 |
| mdke_ | svn doesn't matter a jot, it's the package that matters | 10:25 |
| nixternal | oh ok | 10:25 |
| nixternal | would you like to take a look at the patch i created against the package? | 10:26 |
| mdke_ | no, that's ok | 10:26 |
| nixternal | hehe | 10:26 |
| mdke_ | when you upload a package with a pot file, Rosetta imports it automatically | 10:26 |
| mdke_ | the translators then see any changes in the strings | 10:26 |
| nixternal | ahhh | 10:27 |
| mdke_ | if we don't download anything more from Rosetta, nothing will break, but it's a bit unfair on the translators to change a string then leave it unchanged in other languages | 10:27 |
| nixternal | very true | 10:27 |
| mdke_ | is everything downloaded from Rosetta? | 10:27 |
| nixternal | the desktopguides, server guide, and packaging guide | 10:28 |
| mdke_ | I did aboutkubuntu | 10:28 |
| nixternal | then that as well | 10:28 |
| mdke_ | releasenotes apparently isn't imported yet | 10:28 |
| nixternal | i fixed the makefile for pdfs today...i went to bed early last night, and didn't get a chance | 10:28 |
| mdke_ | oh cool | 10:28 |
| nixternal | kubuntu makefile | 10:28 |
| nixternal | it seems you did the ubuntu one already | 10:29 |
| nixternal | for desktopguide | 10:29 |
| mdke_ | I did the Ubuntu one for them all | 10:29 |
| nixternal | ok | 10:29 |
| mdke_ | I'll check the kubuntu stuff now, thanks for doing that | 10:29 |
| nixternal | no problem | 10:29 |
| mdke_ | erm. It's not looking great :) | 10:30 |
| nixternal | uh oh | 10:30 |
| mdke_ | xsltproar --xinarlude | 10:30 |
| mdke_ | xsltprobn --xinbnlude | 10:31 |
| nixternal | arg | 10:31 |
| mdke_ | etc | 10:31 |
| nixternal | ok...i will fix that really quick | 10:31 |
| mdke_ | you can remove the lulu targets, to simplify things | 10:31 |
| nixternal | well now i knod the autoreplace for a selection "C" to "whatever" doesn't work to well | 10:31 |
| mdke_ | yes, especially if you don't do it case sensitive :) | 10:32 |
| nixternal | heh, i bet i had that unchecked ;) | 10:32 |
| pepsiman | mdke_: Only the C *.omf files are being installed | 10:32 |
| mdke_ | pepsiman: thanks | 10:34 |
| mdke_ | can't believe I missed that | 10:35 |
| mdke_ | crap, what a PITA | 10:36 |
| nixternal | hehe, mdke_ that is why i waited for you to come around, as i was like, it is hard for me to believe he would forget that, maybe there is a reason ;) | 10:37 |
| pepsiman | mdke_: also, is this a problem? http://rafb.net/paste/results/RPYCAU55.html | 10:38 |
| nixternal | heh, nice commit message i just left ;) | 10:38 |
| mdke_ | pepsiman: yes | 10:40 |
| mdke_ | pepsiman: just packagingguide, or others too? | 10:42 |
| pepsiman | desktopguide, packagingguide, serverguide | 10:43 |
| mdke_ | holy crap. | 10:44 |
| pepsiman | aboutubuntu and getting-help are ok | 10:44 |
| mdke_ | ok. I'll look at that | 10:44 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #66819 in ubuntu-docs "[Edgy] The documentation appears untranslated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66819 | 11:05 |
| mdke_ | heh | 11:05 |
| pepsiman | mdke_: re bug 66581 The only word I'd change for an en_GB translation is "customize" => "customise" | 11:13 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66581 in ubuntu-docs "en_GB translation of default home page linked to en_US" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66581 | 11:13 |
| mdke_ | pepsiman: me too. | 11:13 |
| nixternal | lol | 11:14 |
| pepsiman | nixternal: en_GB is the most complete translation in edgy | 11:16 |
| nixternal | no, im laughing at the bug about what you brought up earlier and is currently getting fixed | 11:17 |
| pepsiman | ah | 11:17 |
| pepsiman | 2 hours 40minutes of translation time left | 11:17 |
| nixternal | ya, the whole en and en_GB switching the z's to s's gets me when im typing at times now...i am like, do i use a z or a s ;) | 11:17 |
| pepsiman | an s | 11:18 |
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| mdke_ | all brits know what customize means, and (all?) americans know what customise means | 11:19 |
| pepsiman | that would apply to all en_GB translations | 11:20 |
| nixternal | mdke_: very true | 11:21 |
| nixternal | well, (some!) americans ;) | 11:21 |
| mdke_ | pepsiman: no, I find some americanisms irritating. Some have become more common in en_GB than others | 11:22 |
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