=== jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke___ [n=matt@85-210-255-248.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [i=user@69-87-139-174.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=alex@modemcable134.202-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:08] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo needs a redirect, It's fifth for http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+livecd+customise [06:08] sladen: fix it [06:08] it is a wiki === sladen wonders how comes all these got missed [06:09] 'cause we haven't thought about that much [06:10] This probably requires a visit to the 404 logs [06:37] well i'm going to hang out with gorgeous women [06:37] hope you have your popup blocker installed AC [06:37] doh [06:37] wrong chan === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:42] nixternal, no, that could have gone into nearly any IRC channel ;) [06:43] ya, but i try to stay "somewhat on topic" around here [06:43] oops. the wiki returns 200 Success even for non-existant pages [06:43] my bip server died..so im back with local irc, and my channel locations are goofy [06:44] nixternal: /window layout save or somesuch in irssi [06:44] well, with bip, the irc proxy, window layout doesn't work for you, as you get your layout from the server [06:44] that way there, no matter how many clients, or which clients i connect with from anywhere in the world, to my server, i get the same setup [06:45] but that server went up in a blaze of glory today due to our wonderful comed electric company === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === trappist_ [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-doc === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === KenSentMe [n=KenSentM@a82-92-80-8.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [09:03] morning === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-2-68.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:30] hey fellas [10:30] seems there are some .omf files missing in ubuntu-docs 6.10.2 - does anybody know something about them? 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[07:52] there are lots of .omf files in svn. (I know nothing about them) [07:54] pepsiman: aroung 6 are installed in ubuntu-docs 6.10.2 [07:54] seems they don't get installed [07:54] they all reference the C version of the docs (no idea if that matters) [07:55] which docs are missing them? [07:55] nixternal: all [07:55] doh === nixternal checks it out [07:58] hmmm...it seems the omf files for the docs are on the svn server === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:59] not all docs have a omf file mind you === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:23] the omf files are there in dapper === pygi [n=mario@83-131-6-160.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dholbach_ [n=daniel@89.247.0.177] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:35] pepsiman, which guide to be specific? [08:36] I'll nopaste [08:37] http://rafb.net/paste/results/4onsZM11.html [08:42] nixternal: see what I mean? all guides are missing lots of .omf files [08:45] that is because we just put translations into ubuntu [08:45] into edgy rather [08:46] so, if and when they update the ubuntu-docs package for edgy, and grab the latest svn commits, then all of the omf files will be there [08:47] ubuntu-docs (6.10.2) edgy; urgency=low [08:47] * Adding translations for all documents [08:47] This is from the version I have installed [08:47] -- Matthew East Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:30:00 +0100 [08:49] The .omf files were added on Friday the 13th Oct [08:49] There has been an ubuntu-docs package update since then, they are not in it [08:50] interesting [08:50] there in svn [08:50] i wonder if there is reasoning behind it [08:56] the .omf files are in the source of the package [08:57] Only the C .omf files are in debian/install [09:00] hmm...well, we will have to take that up with mdke on why he did it like that [09:00] dapper's debian/install has ann the .omf files [09:00] im wondering if he just forgot to add them, or if there is some reasoning behind not adding them [09:00] I think he just forgot === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-54-73.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:03] ahh. mr. mdke_! ;) hey, i just created patches for Riddell for the Kubuntu Desktop Guide and Release Notes, to fix 2 bugs (also fixed the .pot files included). I did this at the kubuntu-docs package level. Is it alright if I make the changes and commit them on the server? [10:04] i know the desktop guide has been translated, but the fix in it is is fix that should be easy to do for all of them i believe [10:04] nixternal: erm! [10:04] you can't change a translated string a week before release, the translators don't have time to do that [10:04] didn't think so [10:04] so leave the edgy branch alone then [10:05] if he's uploaded already, it's too late [10:05] well, he updated the package [10:05] if he's uploaded already, it's too late [10:06] actually, the version #'s and urls are translated though are they? [10:06] s/are/aren't [10:06] entities aren't [10:06] but if the pot file changed, that means you must have changed a string [10:07] ya, i changed a string...ok, i get it better now [10:09] nixternal: so he's uploaded the string change? [10:09] mdke_: ok, a little better news, he hasn't uploaded, as he doesn't know if they will get approved [10:09] no he hasn't [10:09] you want me to pull him in here [10:09] if you like [10:09] ok, i just did [10:14] hrmm..he sure is taking his sweet time ;) [10:15] i told him, that with the changes we made, there wouldn't be enough time for translations, and that when translations do come back, they will only break what we just fixed [10:16] I don't know about the second part, but the first part is right === mgalvin_ [n=mgalvin@cpe-74-67-44-20.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:24] well, ya, it wouldn't break what we fixed now that i think about it [10:24] since we only fixed the C/ [10:24] you said you generated a new pot file [10:25] in the source package yes [10:25] mind you, i didn't make changes to svn stuff [10:25] just to the package itself, and would make changes, only if it was OK by you first [10:25] so the translators will see the untranslated strings [10:25] that is correct [10:25] svn doesn't matter a jot, it's the package that matters [10:25] oh ok [10:26] would you like to take a look at the patch i created against the package? [10:26] no, that's ok [10:26] hehe [10:26] when you upload a package with a pot file, Rosetta imports it automatically [10:26] the translators then see any changes in the strings [10:27] ahhh [10:27] if we don't download anything more from Rosetta, nothing will break, but it's a bit unfair on the translators to change a string then leave it unchanged in other languages [10:27] very true [10:27] is everything downloaded from Rosetta? [10:28] the desktopguides, server guide, and packaging guide [10:28] I did aboutkubuntu [10:28] then that as well [10:28] releasenotes apparently isn't imported yet [10:28] i fixed the makefile for pdfs today...i went to bed early last night, and didn't get a chance [10:28] oh cool [10:28] kubuntu makefile [10:29] it seems you did the ubuntu one already [10:29] for desktopguide [10:29] I did the Ubuntu one for them all [10:29] ok [10:29] I'll check the kubuntu stuff now, thanks for doing that [10:29] no problem [10:30] erm. It's not looking great :) [10:30] uh oh [10:30] xsltproar --xinarlude [10:31] xsltprobn --xinbnlude [10:31] arg [10:31] etc [10:31] ok...i will fix that really quick [10:31] you can remove the lulu targets, to simplify things [10:31] well now i knod the autoreplace for a selection "C" to "whatever" doesn't work to well [10:32] yes, especially if you don't do it case sensitive :) [10:32] heh, i bet i had that unchecked ;) [10:32] mdke_: Only the C *.omf files are being installed [10:34] pepsiman: thanks [10:35] can't believe I missed that [10:36] crap, what a PITA [10:37] hehe, mdke_ that is why i waited for you to come around, as i was like, it is hard for me to believe he would forget that, maybe there is a reason ;) [10:38] mdke_: also, is this a problem? http://rafb.net/paste/results/RPYCAU55.html [10:38] heh, nice commit message i just left ;) [10:40] pepsiman: yes [10:42] pepsiman: just packagingguide, or others too? [10:43] desktopguide, packagingguide, serverguide [10:44] holy crap. [10:44] aboutubuntu and getting-help are ok [10:44] ok. I'll look at that === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:05] New bug: #66819 in ubuntu-docs "[Edgy] The documentation appears untranslated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66819 [11:05] heh [11:13] mdke_: re bug 66581 The only word I'd change for an en_GB translation is "customize" => "customise" [11:13] Malone bug 66581 in ubuntu-docs "en_GB translation of default home page linked to en_US" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66581 [11:13] pepsiman: me too. [11:14] lol [11:16] nixternal: en_GB is the most complete translation in edgy [11:17] no, im laughing at the bug about what you brought up earlier and is currently getting fixed [11:17] ah [11:17] 2 hours 40minutes of translation time left [11:17] ya, the whole en and en_GB switching the z's to s's gets me when im typing at times now...i am like, do i use a z or a s ;) [11:18] an s === mdke_ notes that it doesn't matter [11:19] all brits know what customize means, and (all?) americans know what customise means [11:20] that would apply to all en_GB translations [11:21] mdke_: very true [11:21] well, (some!) americans ;) [11:22] pepsiman: no, I find some americanisms irritating. Some have become more common in en_GB than others === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc