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[03:11] purserj: you might find more answers in #ubuntu-devel I think [03:12] thanks === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] imbrandon: you awake? [03:23] hi LaserJock [03:23] hi [03:25] Heya LaserJock, ajmitch [03:25] and how is Barry doing today? [03:25] LaserJock, yup [03:26] LaserJock: Tired man, thanks. You? [03:26] imbrandon: have you installed the latest KDE4 for mac? [03:26] bddebian: same [03:27] LaserJock, not in the last week or so [03:27] imbrandon: the "everything" .dmg is 1.74GB! [03:27] wasup ? [03:27] LaserJock, yea it got a bit smaller [03:27] ;P [03:27] it was bigger? [03:27] my gosh [03:28] yea about 2.6 to start [03:28] wow, I didn't know there was even that much KDE software in existence [03:28] rember thats dbus kdelibs kdebase kdepimlibs koffice kdeedu kdegames [03:28] does any of the kio stuff work? [03:28] and all the debug and dev files too [03:29] LaserJock, yea almost all of it [03:29] cool [03:29] well I'm grabbing it at 300k/s but I just wondered if you had used it recently [03:29] everything "works" basicly , its just alot of polish issues [03:29] like kdeint makes an icon on launch along with the app [03:30] err kded not kdeinit [03:30] and little stuff like that [03:30] is there anything new there yet, or is it mostly the core libs that have been freshened? [03:30] we've heard all about these wonderful plans for plasma, and the related stuff [03:30] ajmitch, mostly just the core, plasma and stuff [03:31] isnt compileble yet [03:31] so plasma exists & is useful now? [03:31] right :) [03:31] well it exists but dosent compile mostly [03:33] imbrandon: do you have any OS X/Ubuntu dual boot machines? [03:33] well i do BUT my osx isnt exactly bootasble atm [03:34] bootable* [03:34] i need to reinstall it [03:34] but i was planning to wait till edgy was released and just doing a fresh install of both [03:34] how is access to the other partition? can you rw on your OS X partition from Ubuntu and the other way around? [03:35] sure, there is hpfs read rwite in linux ( as long as you tuen jjournaling off on the osx partition ) [03:35] turn* [03:35] is that ok to do? [03:35] yea i've done it for months , no issues [03:36] that i've noticed [03:36] heh, except you can boot into OSX at the moment ;-) [03:36] well that was my bad, i was messing with the patition tables [03:36] when i tried to move /var to a new hdd [03:37] ;) [03:37] and if you want to leave journaling on, you can read it like ntfs [03:38] its just if you want read/write you have to turn off the journal ( kinda like when writing to ext3 from window, works buyt you have to turn off the journal ) [03:38] ( and yes i know that efectively makes it ext2 shush ) [03:40] imbrandon: How do you turn off the journal? [03:41] its a single command, i would have to google it again ( i do ever time becosue i only use it on reloads lol ) [03:41] one sec [03:41] Right. [03:41] np I will google it when I need it. [03:42] http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107248 [03:43] thats for 10.2 but it still works on 10.4 [03:43] theres also a way to do it on the command line too but i'm lazy [03:43] Right. [03:45] there is an option in disk utility to do it [03:48] doh, I just read one of my own old posts on the forum [03:49] I didn't realize it was me [03:49] I was thinking "what a dope" and then I looked at who wrote it :-) [03:49] heh === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:53] haha === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:10] good evening everybody === theCore [n=alex@modemcable134.202-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@24.12.220.77] has joined #ubuntu-motu === psusi [n=phreak@user-0c6s9g6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu === whiprush [n=jorge@ethos.battleaxe.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:11] heya Hobbsee [05:12] hey imbrandon [05:12] i got gnash working on my ppc, so i can kinda see flash stuff on the web now [05:12] heh [05:13] well flash 7 or lower, but seems to work ok [05:13] still not as nice as adobe flash but i'm thinking if i give out deb's ( and get it in edgy+1 ) more people will use it and bug report/fix it [05:14] hehe === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] ok, so beta doesn't seem to like my mac [05:25] ouch [05:25] why ? [05:25] because macs are evil & wrong [05:25] hehe [05:26] well, I go to boot and it doesn't do anything [05:26] just a black screen [05:26] absolutely nothing [05:26] did you try to disable the splash screen? i had some problems with that [05:27] how do I do that in lilo? [05:27] ( turning acpi off helps too on some mac's ) [05:27] mac == no acpi [05:27] At east powerpc. [05:27] least [05:27] it worked fine in Dapper [05:27] remove "splash" from the kernel line in lilo.conf afaik [05:27] and add "acpi=off" [05:27] there is no splash [05:28] try to add nosplash [05:28] i havent messed with lilo in ages [05:28] I'm sort of doubting that's it though [05:28] Hello. [05:28] LaserJock, you would be suprised, uspash killed my kdm and lots of stuff [05:28] as normally you at least get a second or two of kernel stuff before usplash kicks in don't you? [05:29] tritium!! [05:29] not really [05:29] LaserJock: :) [05:29] if you get nothing acpi could be it too, it will cause justa blinking cursor in the top left ( or did on my hp ) [05:30] I don't even have that === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] ... [05:49] imbrandon: you having any luck with gnash? [05:52] Burgundavia, yea actualy i made soem debs last nigth [05:52] and i got it installed on my ppc === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] imbrandon: got a link? [05:52] you may have told me last night [05:52] sure what arech [05:53] arch* i'll have to build it again realfast [05:53] x86 [05:53] k one sec [05:53] imbrandon: what sites does it work with? [05:53] most? [05:53] ajmitch, most , fonts are a little funny [05:53] but it "works" [05:53] the question of course is: "Does it work with Youtube"? [05:54] actualy yea , that was the first place i tried [05:54] heh [05:54] that is a 1.0 release blocker right there [05:54] hehe [05:54] youtube and googlevideo both === ajmitch has no flash on amd64, so anything > nothing [05:54] imbrandon: think we can ship it edgy+1? [05:55] one sec, let me upload it ( you'll have to rebuild for anything other than x86 as my ppc isnt dont compiling it yet [05:55] Burgundavia, yup thats my plan for pacaging it [05:55] packaging it* [05:55] right [05:55] gah anyhow one sec [05:55] sudo mount /media/enterprise [05:55] oops [05:58] ok uploading now, it still has some packin issues and not ready for the public but good enough for you and ajmitch to test [05:58] so in other words dont mention the url "publicly" just yet please hehe [05:58] e.g the copyrights and stuff are all still placeholders etc etc etc [05:59] just to get it "working" then i was gonna clean all that up tonight [05:59] imbrandon: no worries [05:59] I am a little concerned about gnash and its choices of technology [05:59] are they all in main? [06:00] umm afaik, mostly just gstreamer ( and plugins ) and libmad [06:00] are the only real deps [06:00] does gnash use gstreamer? [06:01] I thought it used sdl [06:01] it can, it uses sdl or gst , i compiled it with gst0.10 [06:01] ah, ok [06:01] it has lots of configure options [06:01] and the other issue is it being gpl [06:01] are their licensing issues with gpl plugins in firefox? [06:02] not that i'm aware, but i havent looked into it [06:02] I think we (and DEbian) accept FF under the GPL [06:03] here is my build deps [06:03] Build-Depends: cdbs, debhelper (>= 5.0.0), libgtkglext1-dev, libboost-dev, libgstreamer0.10-dev, [06:03] libgl1-mesa-dev, libpng12-dev, libjpeg62-dev, libmad0-dev [06:03] just fyi [06:03] however, gnash as a gstreamer plugin is more problematic [06:03] libmad is a an issue [06:03] i havent looked but i think all those are in main [06:04] it dosent REQUIRE libmad, only if you want mp3 decoding [06:04] eg i compiled with --with-mp3-decoder=mad [06:04] ah [06:05] http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libmad0 [06:05] its in main [06:05] libmad0 | 0.15.1b-2.1 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/main Packages [06:05] but it decodes mp3s... === Burgundavia is terribly confused [06:06] so does xmms, aparently not all mp3 decoding is wrong ( eg gst can to with fluendo ) [06:07] ok, what does mad do? [06:07] why do we need to install lame to get mp3 playback? [06:07] ah, it doesn't actually do mp3 [06:07] (no, xmms and libmad are not supposed to be in main still. I suspect they remain for legacy reasons [or someone employed by Canonical wishing them to remain] ) [06:07] It currently only supports the MPEG 1 standard [06:07] from the package description [06:08] currently the fluendo GSt plugin is the only "legal" one [06:08] crimsun: you builds your distro, you gets your stuff in main [06:08] anyhow we can build without it ( gnash ) thats not an issue , i just choose to test it this way , its only plem package for us MOTU's to test etc [06:09] does flash usually embed mp3s? [06:09] Burgundavia, most do [06:09] quite often. [06:09] thats the prefered flash format [06:09] ah, fun [06:10] so even though we have a free flash player, it will still be crippled [06:10] Burgundavia, ok here is what i have so far ( "works" on my ppc ) http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/pool/edgy/gnash/ as i said though work in progress and feedback welcome [06:11] the copyright and stuff like that is obviously wrong etc [06:11] yep [06:12] also note that is version 0.7.2 and it /should/ be 0.7.1+svn20061016 but i was too lazy to change it before i uploaded [06:12] right [06:12] i'll change that later [06:12] are they not about to release 7.2? [06:12] not sure when , but the cvs is active as in a commit every few hours the last week(s) [06:13] so looks promising [06:13] it says it will play every flash 7 or below well and /some/ flash 8 stuff [06:13] so /should/ play most files [06:14] begone foul macromedia crap [06:14] i only tried a few simple flash games and youtube [06:14] fonts are a bit ugly as i said but it "works" [06:14] hmm, youtube is giving me the "install flash" error [06:14] and suprisingly no crashes, even on stuff that dident work ( like nelly.net ) [06:15] tmp/buildd/.firefox/plugins/libgnashplugin.so [06:15] umm... [06:15] ahh crap, my bad, i have that fixed just not rebuilt [06:15] move that so to you firefox plugins dir [06:15] and it will work [06:16] ( after firefox restart ) [06:16] where is the ff dir? [06:16] /usr/lib/firefox/plugins iirc [06:17] yea ^^ [06:17] well, I just had a crash [06:17] ouch [06:18] hrm what site? [06:18] youtube [06:18] the only flash site worth going to [06:18] I am getting a flash, then a grey box now [06:19] Burgundavia, should be something like this http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss_gnash1.png [06:20] ya, no [06:20] lots of grey boxes [06:20] hrm [06:20] at least gnash is out of process so it doesn't haul down my entire browser as well [06:20] there's an environment variable you need to pass to firefox if you're using the composite extension [06:20] ajmitch, can you grab the dsc from that url and build to see if you get the same thing ? [06:21] crimsun: comp extension? [06:21] crimsun, comp ext ? [06:21] from gtkext ? [06:22] well how dandy, LP is down so I can't locate the bug # [06:22] heh [06:22] you mean from libgtkglext1-dev ? hum in kde i dont [06:23] as i just took that screen shot just now but that dont mean its correct heh [06:24] yea but all in all it does look like something for edgy+1 but its rough [06:25] thats for sure [06:25] honestly i'm suprised no one has packaged it yet [06:25] would go along way to people using it and reporting bugs [06:27] yep [06:27] do they have a proper bug tracker? [06:28] https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=gnash [06:33] crimsun: what sort of env variable? don't remember off hand? [06:33] skip arb visual or something [06:34] it's in the flashplugin-nonfree bug reports [06:34] ah [06:35] I'm sure someone has blogged about it, but I don't remember the precise env var [06:35] forums probably have it too [06:35] somewhere [06:36] i cant beleave i just said that [06:36] lol [06:36] is it gnash specific? [06:36] no, xlib-specific I think [06:37] probabbly not if it effects flashplugin-nonfree too [06:37] i wonder if the adobe guys are gonna make a ppc and amd64 version of 9 [06:38] i mean they will certainly make a win64 and a osx version so i dont see an issue but who knows [06:38] I hope they do [06:38] if I were Adobe I probably wouldn't [06:38] tbh [06:38] flash and mp3's are our biggest issues [06:38] more QA headache for little gain [06:39] well bigests as in problematic from a new user perspective of every day user [06:39] there are bigger fish , i know heh [06:39] yes [06:40] i bet the PR from releasing flashplayer source gpl would make Macromedia Flash MX salse go up [06:40] but then again maybe not [06:41] answered teh phone 5 times in the past 30 minutes. Not once was it for me [06:41] bloody roommates === nixternal prays to the launchpad gods to bringer her back up..i need to push da#$@)$*# [06:41] Burgundavia, hehe [06:41] imbrandon: nice blog post there ;) [06:41] hey, did you get my notice earlier with that comic link? [06:41] nixternal, yea i thought it was a bit funny [06:41] and yea i saw the comic link [06:41] me too, but i wasn't going to post about that one [06:42] the comic that is [06:42] heh i thought it was in bad tatse but to each their own ;) [06:42] taste* [06:42] just another jealous gentoo user im sure [06:42] lol [06:42] damn [06:42] YAJGU Comic [06:43] that is the blog post there [06:43] crimsun: was the env variable to do with locale? [06:44] ajmitch / crimsun if you have time tonight to poke that gnash i just uploaded , i'll clean it up a bit and make a blog post and see if we can get some more intrest going [06:44] ajmitch, specialy since you have no flash-nonfree installed so you "know" its purly gnash [06:44] Burgundavia: no SKIP_ARB_VISUALS=1 or something [06:44] purely === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] imbrandon: I probably won't have time, sorry. Trying to finish up vlc prior to 6.10 RC. [06:45] crimsun, no worries [06:45] yea thats more important right now [06:45] wahoo [06:46] LaserJock: wahoo? [06:47] I got it [06:47] I was able to add a nosplash to lilo [06:47] and it booted [06:47] hrm /me looks puzzled, if it is installing it via cdbs in tmp/buildd/.firefox/.... shouldent it find it in debian/gnash/.firefox/plugins/libgnashplugin.so ? [06:47] ah, I see [06:47] the weird thing is, it booted with the splash ?!? [06:47] imbrandon: probably not [06:47] LaserJock, hehe told ya , it dosent seem like it should affect it but it does [06:48] ajmitch, hum why not, i guess i'm mis understanding something then [06:49] just a min [06:49] trying to figure out what to do about UDS stuff [06:49] now if I can just get the ATI drivers [06:49] thats the only fix that gets misplaced durring make install so i thought "mv debian/gnash/.firefox/plugins/libgnashplugin.so debian/gnash/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/" would work in the binary-install target [06:49] okies [06:50] s/fix/file [06:50] LaserJock, is it a moble ati ? [06:50] ( e.g. notebook or some mac mini's ) [06:50] I don't think so [06:50] kk nvm then [06:50] iMac [06:50] yea imac should be full fledged card [06:51] iirc [06:51] yeah [06:51] i just know my moble ati card in the ibook cant use flrgx or w/e it is [06:51] it has to use the OSS driver [06:52] was gonna make sure you checked first hehe [06:52] it took me half a day before i decided to look at the supported cards lol === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] anyone want to donate some money for a worthy cause? ;) [06:53] hah [06:53] i really wish i had some , i would bro [06:53] really worthy, i'll bet [06:53] Hobbsee: of course it is [06:53] I thought you were invited, ajmitch [06:53] you ever doubt me? [06:54] heh [06:55] have to sort out hotel stuff [06:55] ahh [06:56] ajmitch, you got the flight stuff covered? [06:56] imbrandon: barely [06:56] bah [06:57] ajmitch, nice, thats good atleaste, i would say you could bunk in my hotel room but i dont know whom else i'll be in the hotel with or what the policys etc are [06:57] http://lwn.net/Articles/204758/ [06:57] hmm, good comment [06:58] ajmitch, if you care to poke, i wouldent mind having a 3rd in the room [06:58] not even sure whom to poke tbh === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:03] crimsun, btw i forgot to mention if you need a guiney pig for something i can test vlc as i use that as my primary player on my lappy [07:04] that is if you need soemthing etc etc etc [07:04] I'm working my way through a merge of the newest from Sid [07:05] nice [07:05] I hate that I can't test if it will FTBFS just like the current Edgy source package (due to translations) [07:05] translations make it FTB ? wow [07:06] pbuilds/sbuilds fine locally. Dies on the buildd. [07:06] yea i hate when that happens, usaly its a auto{conf,build} thing for me when it does === imbrandon kicks old kde apps === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@adsl-69-153-132-252.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@68-115-81-248.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pragmatine [n=pragmati@60-240-220-156.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pragmatine [n=pragmati@60-240-220-156.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=imbrando@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:52] morning [07:53] ajmitch: any idea why motu-uvf is assigned with bug #43150? I see nothing to do for edgy [07:53] Malone bug 43150 in gcl "[SRU] maxima frontends fail to connect" [Undecided,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43150 [07:54] siretart: I believe that's for "universe stable release update team" [07:54] siretart: and since when it's formed it's likely going to be the people in motu-uvf anyway... :-) === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] siretart: dholbach said to subscribe motu-uvf to it [07:55] ah, ok [07:56] we need a gcl update and rebuild of maxima [07:56] I didn't notice that we already agreed on how to do stable updates [07:56] we didn't [07:56] that's why it's subscribed to motu-uvf instead of a motu-sru [07:56] or similar === imbrandon [n=imbrando@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] ah, as interim "solution". ok [07:57] imbrandon: will you be around for another 20 minutes or so? [07:57] yeah [07:58] crimsun, yea [07:58] imbrandon: if you don't mind, will you test merged vlc/amd64 debs? [08:03] crimsun, I can take a look if you need a set of eyes on an amd64 box. i've got one here [08:03] just give me a link to the source, and i'll build and test it === imbrandon [n=imbrando@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] superm1: it's currently pbuilding/sbuilding [08:06] Ok. Well then when binaries are ready, i'll be glad to take a look [08:06] 2 minutes. [08:07] crimsun, sorry was having some irc server issues, but yea i'll be arround [08:07] and would be happy to test [08:07] -> cleaning the build env [08:08] imbrandon: / superm1: http://adhd.irule.net/~crimsun/ [08:09] grabbing now [08:10] thanks [08:11] i can test the player, but cant mozilla plugin for it. installing... [08:13] yup its working for me. installs clean, and playing back okay with some xvid/ac3 files as well as mpeg2/ac3 and mpeg2/mp2 files. [08:14] anything in particular that has changed that will be iffy functionality wise? [08:14] yup every thing seems fine here too [08:15] playing all my media [08:15] i dont have any x264 files to check that since it looks like it was in the changelog though. [08:16] please test a dvd [08:17] I doubt that has been fixed, but feel free to try [08:17] a commercial one ? [08:17] yes === imbrandon looks for one [08:17] one sec [08:17] there are dupes where it will crash on amd64 [08:17] oh that will take a few minutes to find ;) [08:17] (not much we can do about it presently, however) [08:17] (same for the keyboard shortcuts) === imbrandon found a farscape dvd , one sec [08:18] resevoir dogs here. and its struglling [08:19] I'm not entirely convinced it's vlc's fault. [08:19] let me throw it thru xine then and make sure that libdvdcss2 isnt yelling at me then [08:19] I have libdvdcss2 1.2.9-1 installed (locally compiled) [08:20] i'm running 1.2.5-1 locally compiled here. [08:20] Oh it definately segfaulted on the dvd. xine played it fine [08:21] ok, good. [08:21] oh wow segfaults [08:21] yea here too [08:21] well, not really good per se, but no regression. [08:21]