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willys_fueguinoroot, ke hacs ac?? :-12:01
rootsee12:01
Epidemikwhat program should i use to unzip .rar files?12:01
LjLEpidemik: unrar12:01
mikewinsdeskif i was trying to make two nameservers for one domain, what would i name the computer hosting these two nameservers?  Would i just name it the hostname, example.com or would i go ns1.example.com?12:01
dbernar1willys_fueguino, root: why can you not log in as a normal user to gnome?12:01
Epidemikwill i be able to sudo apt-get unrar? LjL12:01
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willys_fueguinodbernar1, thats a great question---12:02
root'cos i dont have the user12:02
willys_fueguino:-12:02
admin_Epidemik: yes12:02
Epidemikthanks you12:02
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admin_Epidemik: sudo apt-get install unrar12:02
willys_fueguinoroot, pero no tenias el user ya??12:02
rootno se cual es el user12:02
LjLEpidemik: no, but you'll be able to "sudo apt-get install unrar". after you've enabled Multiverse, that is, since unrar is non-free (there is also a free version, "unrar-free", but it won't open all kinds of .RAR files)12:02
LjL!es12:02
rootsolo se el password12:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:02
raebdoes rar also take care of zip files like in windows?12:02
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cherubielEpidemik: package name is rar12:02
cherubiel!rar12:02
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free12:02
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jbinderhello12:03
willys_fueguino!en12:03
LjLraeb: no, it's just a command line program. however, FileRoller (in Gnome) and Ark (in KDE) will support ZIP, RAR, and whatever, as long as you've got the right packages installed12:03
admin_jbinder: hey12:03
rootwhen i installed edgy it only ask me the password but no the user12:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:03
raebLjL: good to know, thanks12:03
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LjLcherubiel: actually, i think "rar" only contains the archiver while "unrar" contains the extractor12:03
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jbinder!meh12:03
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about meh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:03
LjL!bot12:03
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage12:03
jbinder!ubotu12:04
LjL!msg the bot12:04
visik7anyone know if there is a package for vmware workstation ?12:04
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops12:04
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LjLvisik7: no there isn't one12:04
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anon32!knowledge12:04
LjLvisik7: you can get vmware player12:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knowledge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:04
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LjLanon32, jbinder, etc: can we stop this?12:04
cherubielLjL: right, its just the archiver :)12:04
visik7LjL: I've the license for the WS and WS give me some feature that I need12:04
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jbinder!test12:04
ubotuFailed.12:04
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Epidemikokay i think it installed alright, how do i run it?12:04
jbinderwtf12:04
shwagon edgy, im getting and error on sudo apt-get update   I get a gzip error12:04
jbinderwtf12:05
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LjL!ops12:05
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!12:05
jbinder!test12:05
anon32ok12:05
jbinder!test12:05
anon32jbinder, !12:05
admin_jbinder: lol12:05
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jbinderlol12:05
AmaranthLjL: ?12:05
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doomz!help bla12:05
Epidemikokay i think it installed alright, how do i run it?12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help bla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
Epidemik!.rar12:05
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free12:05
LjLAmaranth, jbinder is abusing the bot after being told to not do so several times12:05
domokinganyone have experience with ati drivers?12:05
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Amaranth!pmthebot12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pmthebot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
jbinderAmaranth: I am?12:05
Amaranthgrr12:05
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AmaranthPM the bot12:05
doomz!allocate mem resource12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about allocate mem resource - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
LjLAmaranth, that's !msgthebot, and i issued that already12:05
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rootwhere is the wine channel?12:06
blindroot: #wine-hq12:06
Amaranth#wine12:06
admin_root: #wine ?12:06
AdamMKwhat's the key u hold down so that when ur dragging and dropping it moves the files and doesn't copy them?12:06
rooti need to get it setup so i can test a windows file before i run it on my windows comp12:06
Amaranth#winehq maybe12:06
LjLjbinder: yes you are, and you're also spamming the channel by keeping to type (wrong) ubotu commands in series12:06
rootwine-hq12:06
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rootthanks12:06
LjLjbinder: and i just asked you to stop it a moment ago12:06
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dbernar1LjL: and now you are spamming with this argument.12:06
AdamMKinstead of copying*12:06
rootnevermind12:06
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rootno one is in either room12:06
jbinderLjL: when did you ask me to stop?12:06
dbernar1enough.12:06
doomzhi, can any one help me ? I've upgraded my pc and now I cant install ubuntu :(12:06
AmaranthAhem.12:06
jbinderdoomz: how?12:07
dbernar1doomz: why?12:07
admin_doomz: What exactly is the problem12:07
LjL[00:04]  <LjL> anon32, jbinder, etc: can we stop this?     as well as using !msg the bot12:07
doomzI get12:07
jbinder..12:07
AmaranthLjL: They stopped.12:07
anon32LjL, I only did it once..12:07
doomzPCI: failed to allocate mem rsource #6:20000 ....12:07
blindThey stopped when you got your fancy little @ ;)12:07
Amaranthdoomz: _Everyone_ gets those messages. :)12:07
doomzit loads the vmlinuz stuff12:07
AnswerWhat is the best way to remove all the packages that I don't need?  I want to strip down to a minimal distribution12:07
doomzyeah but hear me out !12:07
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doomzon the boot menu12:07
morlaLjL: thanks for the help, I give up for today :)12:07
doomzof the cd...12:07
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dbernar1Answer: look at what packages you have installed, and then think of the ones you do not need, and remove them.12:08
doomzit loads the kernel images and then freezes with this message12:08
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Answerdbernar1, how do I look at them on the command line?12:08
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doomzand Im stuck like this for a month now ... any one have an idea ?12:08
rootwhat do i need to setup wine12:08
Answerdoomz, burn yourself the latest iso.12:08
constantine-xvinotsoanon32: i beg to differ, kaffiene, vlc, and mplayer play them12:08
rooti got wine,wine-dev,libwine,libwine-dev12:08
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dbernar1Answer: sudo dpkg -l will list all installed packages afaik.12:08
constantine-xviflvs12:08
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domoking798 frames in 5.1 seconds = 156.851 FPS is that a good number for glxgears?12:09
doomzAnswer: I got the latest dapper12:09
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doomz6.06 I think12:09
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rootdid a winecfg, it complained and exited12:09
Answerdoomz, burn yourself the latest cd.  I just did it yesterday it works fine12:09
Answerdbernar1, any way I could see the last time the files were accessed and remove packages like that?12:09
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raebdomoking: what's your video card ?12:09
doomzAnswer: umm... normal distro ? dapper ?12:09
cherubielroot: you'd be better off in #winehq12:10
urakaipahi there, i'm having trouble by using ssh server: if i try to connect to the server via lan, it perfectly works but if I try via web the answer is connection refused. I correctly forwarded the right port on the router. any idea?12:10
Answerdoomz, whatever you want actually.  the cds work, hundreds of people get them everyday12:10
domokingraeb: ATI fireGL v520012:10
dbernar1Answer: I do not know. Why do you have the urge to remove the unneeded packages?12:10
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grover2anyone running edgy and having swap mounting issues? It seems to be because the swap partition's uuid is changing12:10
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domokingraeb: i'm still having trouble fixing the driver errors (i hate ati drivers)12:10
Answerdbernar1, so that it can run on a 2G partition with lots of storage space leftover.12:11
TheGateKeeperAnswer: the problem you have is that apt-get is crap at removing dependencies that aren't needed anymore12:11
jellydomoking: that sounds like no accel.12:11
Epidemikokay, this isnt working12:11
raebdomo: i feel ya.  the numbers are quite low12:11
AnswerTheGateKeeper, bingo!@12:11
Epidemikcan someone please help me open a .rar file12:11
jellydomoking: no accel and a slow machine, even.12:11
Epidemikthe unrar thing didnt work12:11
dbernar1urakaipa: no other possible reason that I can think of for it not to work. btw, the correct usage would be via the Internet, not via the Web.12:11
doomzAnswer: thanks, thou I some how have the feeling its got something to do with evil nVidia or something...12:11
MarcNAnyone trying SecondLife on Dapper?  I see some strange unreadable fonts.12:11
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cherubielEpidemik: errors?12:11
raebdomo: i can't help you since i use nvidia for all my linux boxes  =[12:11
urakaipadbernar1 what do you mean via internet12:11
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domokingjelly: i'm pretty sure my machine is fast i just have these problems with the drivers12:11
dbernar1urakaipa: nm.12:11
EpidemikCould not open "SW_AT_Echelon.rar"12:12
EpidemikArchive type not supported.12:12
Epidemikthats when i double click it12:12
Epidemiki have installed unrar-free12:12
domokingjelly: how do i do I enable accel? also direct rendering is not enabled12:12
jewbileewow..12:12
jellydomoking: my P3/500 had 150fps. ;-)12:12
dbernar1Answer: there are a couple of commands to clear up the unused packages, and clear the cache of packages...you do want a standard ubuntu installation still on there, right?12:12
urakaipadbernar1: not clear. There's not any option for binding local network to external network (I'm not good to explain)12:12
jellydomoking: eh, can't help you with binary drivers - never used them.12:12
mikm[laptop] !ati12:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:12
TheGateKeeperAnswer: you could try using aptitude but I don't know if that would be any more successfull12:12
dur!urban lsd12:13
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LILUGbot(14/20): the_cia's mind control drug12:13
LILUGbot - o)O picasso12:13
johnnybuoyhow do I start an arbitrary command at startup?12:13
cherubielEpidemik: tried from the commandline? unrar <rarname>12:13
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Answerdbernar1, TheGateKeeper, actually i want to remove the graphical interface too...12:13
mikm[laptop] d'oh.  DIdn't realize I was reading backlgos12:13
mikm[laptop] :)12:13
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TheGateKeeperAnswer: in that case I would be tempted to start from scratch with a server install12:14
dbernar1urakaipa: your router will have a port forwarding feature, and as long as the port forwarding feature is set up right, the router should forward the request to the appropriate machine, which will not be able to discriminate between requests from the Internet or ones from the LAN. That is if you had not messed with the ssh configuration.12:14
Kim^JWhats the name of the swedish xkb layout package_12:14
Kim^J?12:14
AnswerTheGateKeeper, temptation lead me not into12:14
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dbernar1TheGateKeeper: or he can just remove the -desktop package with something like aptitude that removes unneeded apps.12:14
Epidemik<cherubiel> bash: unrar: command not found12:15
fairramoneIs Ethereal/Wireshark in any of the Ubuntu repositories?12:15
dur!urban lsd 112:15
LILUGbotGetting definition 1 of lsd12:15
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LILUGbot(1/20): D-Lysergic Acid Diethylamide12:15
LILUGbotSynthetic chemical which, when taken orally or, less commonly, in the lining of an eyelid or nostril, is the most potent hallucinogen known to the common public.12:15
LILUGbotOne of the cheapest drugs available, it is neither addictive nor physically dangerous. Taken by an intelligent, open-minded person, it can create fantastic revelations and experiences.12:15
LILUGbotIt is not a good party drug, and, in a hostile environment such as a party, it can lead to what is known as a 'bad trip', where the person under the influence of the substance in question has an experience which is totally frightening. Fear, depression and anger are accentuated to fill the entire body to a point where entire thought patterns are controlled by these emotions.12:15
LILUGbotThe same accentuation goes for happiness and relaxation, often leading to a state of artificial nirvana, the only difference being that the person is absolutely suggestible and can lose the ability to reason.12:15
LILUGbot - fuh?12:15
Kim^JAnyone?12:15
LjL!ops12:15
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cherubielEpidemik: have you installed unrar properly?12:15
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Epidemikunrar-free installed properly12:15
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Epidemiknot unrar12:15
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greghi12:15
TheGateKeeperdbernar1: well if it will do the job great :-)12:15
greg!getquote 1812:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about getquote 18 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:16
dbernar1Kim^J: did you ask on the sweedish channel?12:16
gregdamn12:16
dbernar1pah12:16
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Kim^Jdbernar1: Nope12:16
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Sonderbladei want to upgrade an old ubuntu hoary installation to dapper, will that be hard?12:16
dbernar1!se12:16
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se12:16
Epidemik<cherubiel> any ideas, did you see the error12:16
greg!getquote 1812:17
LILUGbotquote not found!12:17
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about getquote 18 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:17
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Kim^JBut whats the name of the xkb packages?12:17
TheGateKeeper!update12:17
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:17
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greg!getquote 112:17
TheGateKeeperSonderblade: ^^^^12:17
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about getquote 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:17
wastrelgreg what are you doing?12:17
wastrel!msgthebot12:17
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops12:17
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urakaipadbernar1: thanks. so if port forwarding is okay and also ssh server works on lan, it means that the server itself is right configured. so i still not understanding why i'm not able to connect from the web. there's a command to show all the listening port?12:17
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Epidemikwhat are you doing?12:18
gregwhat does !msgthebot do?12:18
gregwastrel: testing a bot12:18
wastrelit tells you to /msg the bot12:18
cherubielEpidemik: it would be unrar-free <rarname> then12:18
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cherubielyou'll have to tell te file manager to use unrar-free instead of unrar12:19
cherubiel!rar12:19
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free12:19
dbernar1urakaipa: there is, but I do not know what it is. I also do not think you will need it. Make sure that your ISP does not block that port, and also make sure that the router is set up properly.12:19
Epidemikcherubiel, how do i do that12:19
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Epidemikcherubiel, when i did it through terminal it gave me a list of all the files that failed12:19
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greg!urban lsd 112:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about urban lsd 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:20
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eugmanThe sound for mplayer has stoped working today. Any idea why?12:20
cherubiel!ops12:20
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wastrelgreg:  stop playing with the bot12:20
naliothcherubiel: yes?12:20
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wastrelgreg:  you can use /msg12:20
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Epidemikcherubiel, what did i do wrong12:20
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naliothcherubiel: what did you summon the ops for?12:21
urakaipadbernar1: i tried with internet page the test single ports: any of those which are used for ssh server are open, and if I disable the port forwarding on one of that port and run again the test, i can see the difference. it sounds strange12:21
cherubielnalioth: greg left, he was continously using /msg inspite of being told over and over again. thanks.12:21
cherubielNOT using12:22
cherubielsorry12:22
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raintheory!VNC12:24
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.12:24
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cherubielEpidemik: sudo ln -s `which unrar-free` /usr/bin/rar12:25
cherubielEpidemik: you need that if you don't have rar installed, try to open after this step12:25
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icheyneI want to run a CLI program as a user - but not sudo. How?12:26
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icheynekeep getting an error message saying the the file is owned by a different user12:26
icheynesudo does not fix it12:26
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LjL!permissions > icheyne12:27
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dbernar1give us console output on a pastebin, icheyne12:27
icheyneoh ok12:27
icheynethanks12:27
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Epidemikcherubiel, ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/rar' to `/usr/bin/unrar-free': File exists12:27
Epidemikcherubiel, thats the error i got, i still cant open the files12:28
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icheynehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27147/12:28
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dbernar1Epidemik: that means there was a /usr/bin/rar already.12:28
cherubielEpidemik: sudo ln -s `which unrar-free` /usr/bin/unrar ; sorry my bad12:28
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dbernar1icheyne: what was the command you ran to get that error?12:29
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icheynetor12:29
icheynedbernar1, tor12:29
icheyne:)12:29
Epidemikcherubiel, okay thanks but i got a new error12:29
dbernar1icheyne: you just said tor on a command line, and pressed enter?12:29
Epidemikcherubiel, rar: invalid option -- c12:29
EpidemikTry `rar --help' or `rar --usage' for more information.12:29
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icheynedbernar1, yes I have tor installed12:29
icheyneit runs on startup12:30
icheyneI want to restart it12:30
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icheynebut I get this error message12:30
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balzachello12:30
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dbernar1how do you try to restart it?12:30
icheyneapparently I can use HUP to reload it12:30
balzaci installed easyubuntu but it refuses my password12:30
icheynewhatever that means12:30
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cherubielicheyne: you could do a sudo debian-tor and then run the restart12:30
icheynedbernar1, I killed hte process12:30
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icheynecherubiel, I tried sudo but it did not work12:31
dbernar1icheyne: and then try running the command on command line?12:31
cherubielsudo debian-tor12:31
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balzacFailed to run -- 'python' './easyubuntu.in':12:31
balzac Wrong password.12:31
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balzacthat's what it says when I try to run easyubuntu12:31
raintheoryhey all12:31
balzacit doesn't like my password12:31
cherubieleeks, su  debian-tor12:31
dbernar1icheyne: one moment, please.12:31
icheynecherubiel, command not found12:31
icheyneoh12:31
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jewbileewould someone mind helping me with playing mp3s?12:32
LjL!easyubuntu > balzac12:32
LjL!mpe > jewbilee12:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:32
LjL!mp3 > jewbilee12:32
raintheoryi'm having some difficulties connecting to my edgy box via VNC from my dapper install..   I can connect to it fine using VNC from Windows12:32
icheynecherubiel, that looks like the right approach, but I don't know debian-tor's password12:32
dbernar1icheyne: sudo invoke-rc.d tor start12:32
icheyneah ok12:32
raintheoryanyone think they can help me out?12:32
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Seveasbalzac, easyubuntu is not supported by ubuntu12:33
balzacI wish Richard Stallman could be the dictator of free-software12:33
krazykitbalzac: ugh, no.12:33
balzacwe wouldn't have all these little issues if more people would defer to his judgement12:33
cherubielraintheory: using vncviewer?12:33
icheynedbernar1, that worked12:33
icheyne:)12:33
icheynehow did you find that out12:33
icheyne?12:33
balzaci used to love VLC on ubuntu, but then I upgraded12:33
Seveasbalzac, please keep offtopic talk in here to a minimum -- this is a support channel12:33
Amaranthbalzac: Yeah you wouldn't need easyubuntu because there'd be no non-free software to install12:33
esjI'm having problems with an NFS stale file handle.12:33
icheynedbernar1, how did you find that out12:34
esjI've tried all the suggestions that I have found but it still persists even through reboots12:34
raintheorycherubiel:  trying to, but I'm open to other suggestions12:34
dbernar1icheyne: ya, I tried it here first. Well, it is a service, and services are not ran like normal programs, they are run with that command syntax. Something like sudo invoke-rc.d <serviceName> <start|stop|restart>12:34
balzaci just want to use skype12:34
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FrajHi12:34
icheynedbernar1, thanks mate12:34
balzaci see like 50 different tutorials to install skype on ubuntu12:34
dbernar1icheyne: welcome:)12:34
icheyneI'll take a note of that12:34
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icheyne:D12:34
Frajhow do i set chmod to 777 in gftp? I mean which boxes do i tick?12:34
icheyneI suppose I should google for HUP too12:34
balzacbut package dependencies are bogging me down12:34
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icheynecheers12:34
lupine_85all of them :)12:35
RNtanyone can tell me why slackware need 5 cds and ubuntu just one?12:35
krazykitFraj: all of them12:35
dbernar1Fraj: read, write and execute.12:35
Frajthanks :)12:35
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lupine_85RNt: bloat12:35
krazykitRNt: it doesn't.  that's just all the packages12:35
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krazykitlupine_85: rofl @ calling slackware bloated12:35
lupine_85I was assuming it was a 5-CD install...12:35
lupine_85...that *would* be bloat12:35
dbernar1RNt: slackware has all the packages available for download on CDs, ubuntu has only the standard install on the cd, rest of packages online.12:35
esjit is a five CD install but you only need a 10th of each CD12:35
Seeker2599what plugin do i need to play .wmv files with totem12:35
lupine_85ah12:35
raintheoryits frustrating because i can connect using tightVNC viewer from windows just fine12:35
krazykitregardless, it's off-topic12:36
raintheorybut it wont work from dapper12:36
RNtthanks12:36
lupine_85raintheory: if using the xine engine, then libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs12:36
Frajin speacial, user, group or other?12:36
lupine_85'though I don't know if totem plays well with the latter12:36
lupine_85ah well, bed time for me12:36
Fraj??12:36
dbernar1Fraj: user, group and other.12:36
balzacwhere is it ok to talk about ubuntu, rather than to just request support12:36
balzaci need to give some feedback12:37
RNtis possible totem play mp3?12:37
krazykitbalzac: #ubuntu-offtopic maybe12:37
balzacthanks12:37
cherubielicheyne: tried sudo /etc/init.d/tor restart12:37
Frajthanks12:37
raintheorylupine_85: was that meant for Seeker2599?12:37
lupine_85raintheory: yep12:37
lupine_85 /snore12:37
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icheynecherubiel, thanks again12:37
dbernar1Fraj: each number represents the permissions for one set of users(user, group, other). 7 means read+write+execute. 777 means 7 for user, group, others.12:37
icheyne:)12:37
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Frajthanks :)12:38
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lupine_85to get the 7... 1 = execute, 2 = write, 4 = read (add them together to get what combination you want)12:38
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lupine_85?12:39
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lupine_85you had it right, I was just explaining what the magic 7 was12:39
dbernar1Yup. I got it.12:39
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lupine_852^3, in this case :)12:39
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lupine_85hang on... is *that* right?12:39
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lupine_85night12:39
dbernar1night12:40
raintheorynighters12:40
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jewbileei still need help with mp3s12:40
jewbileei dont know what to do with that stuff ubotu gave me12:40
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raintheoryjewbilee: what do you need?12:40
jewbileeto know how to make mp3s work12:41
dbernar1jewbilee: there is a page at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats that talks about this. Read it, and follow the instructions and you will know how to play mp3s on your computer. I like your nick.12:41
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jewbileei did read that12:41
jewbileei just dont understand what to do12:41
iamthericjewbilee, what about them?12:41
iamthericjewbilee, xmms is kinda cool12:41
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Paddy_EIREhow do I get rid of all this nonsense "<-- pooh_beawr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))"12:41
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krazykitPaddy_EIRE: depends on the client12:42
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Paddy_EIRExchat-gnome12:42
krazykitdunno then.  check their site?12:42
Paddy_EIREk12:42
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dbernar1jewbilee: do you care which program the mp3 plays in?12:42
lupine_85use xine and install libxine-extracodecs12:42
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jewbileenot really12:43
jewbileewould prefer amarok12:43
lupine_85amarok does xine :)12:43
lupine_85!libxine-extracodecs12:43
iamthericjewbilee, i use snackAmp tons12:43
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB12:43
lupine_85I really am going to bed...12:43
RNtanyone uses uira?12:43
jewbileedoes that play mp3s12:43
Paddy_EIREEddie are you there12:43
jewbileewithout having to do anything?12:43
dbernar1jewbilee: so, install libxine-extracodecs12:43
iamtheric!snackAmp12:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snackAmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:43
Ninja562I am havin a hell of a time getting flash to work in any browser. I am AMD64 Dapper, any suggestions12:44
iamthericjewbilee, snackAmp plays mps natively12:44
iamthericmps's^12:44
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iamthericmp3^12:44
krazykitNinja562: flash support is trash.  you need 32-bit firefox and stuff.12:44
krazykitNinja562: or wait a few months and hope adobe releases a 64-bit flash.12:44
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Ninja562Krazykit: 32 bit firefox a no work12:45
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Ninja562krazykit: wouldn't Macromedia release the 64 flash?12:46
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jewbileewhere do i find snackAmp?12:46
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dbernar1Ninja562: as soon as they would produce one, sure.12:46
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Ninja562krazykit: Not exactly holding my breath for that one.12:47
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dmglouiscan someone help me? my ubuntu can't ping any address12:47
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Ninja562krazykit: Is there a work around using Wine?12:47
iamthericdmglouis, you configure your card yet?12:47
dbernar1dmglouis: and can it browse the web?12:47
dmglouisiamtheric: what do u mean?12:47
xulundif eth0 isnt up it cant ping. set eth0 up and try to ping then12:48
iamthericdmglouis, statically or dhcp?12:48
G3bNinja562: there is a way to emulate 32 in the kernel but i've only ever done it in gentoo....12:48
dmglouisiamtheric: dhcp12:48
xulundcheck if eth0 is up: ifconfig12:48
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dmglouisdbernar1: no it cant12:48
Ninja562G3b: is it a difficult implementation?12:48
nuked_omenwhat is recompiling a kernel and what's the need for it?12:48
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dmglouisactually right now, whenever i ping it says network unreachable12:49
anacaonahello hello12:49
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xulundyes becuse, eth0 isnt up12:49
anacaonacurious: when i use the system --> administration --> disks too, which system config file does it modify?12:49
dmglouisxulund: eth0 isnt set up?12:49
xulundtry dhcp it should work12:49
G3bNinja562, no really, i'm sure there is a guide somewhere.... this was the guide for gentoo, so not sure how useful it is: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_java_on_amd6412:49
Paddy_EIREwill a proper working Flash Professional app/alternative ever be released for linux, I've seen the non working f4l (flash 4 Linux) and was not impressed.  Surely the open source community can do this??12:49
anacaonacuz i want to change how it sets up permissions on partitions mounted through this utility12:50
Ninja562G3b: Thx.12:50
dmglouisxulund: ok let me try it again12:50
xulund" actually right now, whenever i ping it says network unreachable" = eth0 is down normally... check this by writing ifconfig, if there is only lo eth0 is down12:50
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G3bNinja562: Sorry, link for flash is at bottom of that page12:50
dmglouisxulund: ifconfig shows eth0 too12:51
riddleboxcould a bad keyboard lock up my system?12:51
xulundok12:51
dbernar1nuked_omen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild12:51
xulundthen it is some else problems12:51
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epimerhi guys12:52
dmglouisxulund: something else?12:52
epimeri think i'm being really daft here - i formatted yesterday and have upgraded to edgy and can't find the cursor set i used to use12:52
epimerit was almost the same as the default, but had e.g. animated ubuntu logos when loading12:53
epimeranyone know what i'm talking about?12:53
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epimer(looking all through gnome-look.org and drawing blanks)12:53
Ninja562G3b: Found it, looks intimidating12:53
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iamthericepimer, gnome, kde, what?12:53
epimergnome.12:54
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epimeri'd post a screenshot of what i mean...but those got lost in the format, too :-/12:54
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epimerit's only a minor thing but it's driving me nuts12:55
Paddy_EIRE!f4l12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about f4l - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
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nuked_omenso there isn't really much need to recompile the kernel12:56
nuked_omeni thought a lot of people do it12:56
RNt(gedit:7196): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:12:56
RNtAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.12:56
RNtWhat is this?12:56
nuked_omenfor some good reason12:56
dbernar1RNt: how did you get it?12:56
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dbernar1nuked_omen: mhm.12:56
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RNtdbernar1: trying to update the apt-get packages12:56
G3bNinja562: Yea, your right, although the only alternative that i can think of is 32-bit firefox. A guide can be found here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=117443512:57
dbernar1RNt: i find that hard to believe. You just ran sudo apt-get update, or what?12:57
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RNtI used the command gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:57
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dbernar1RNt: it means that you were in a console, or through ssh, or something to that extent.12:58
nuked_omendbernar1, i'm not a developer, i don't really need more features, and i don't debug problems i just wait for them to get resolved12:58
RNtah ok12:58
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RNtthanks12:58
dbernar1nuked_omen: right.12:58
dbernar1nuked_omen: same here.12:59
jewbileei really need help with multimedia stuff12:59
Isaacariahanyone here compiled wine from source?12:59
jewbileei just cant get mp3s to work...12:59
dbernar1jewbilee: did you install libxine-extracodecs?12:59
jewbileeyes12:59
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dbernar1jewbilee: you sure? And amarok still can not play your mp3s?12:59
Shadow_milwhy does samba keeps giving me this error when I try to change my smbpasswd?12:59
Shadow_milCould not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE01:00
nuked_omendbernar1, thanx, glad that that cleared out01:00
jewbileeeverytime i play it in amarok01:00
jewbileeit says playlist finished01:00
dbernar1nuked_omen: sure, you are welcome.01:00
jkelly2005hello everyone, i need some help with playing video in ubuntu. mplayer says that it cant access the video device. my graphics card is a ATI Radeon 9200 mac mini G4 ubuntu edgy ppc.01:00
iamthericepimer, look in the repositories for it01:00
iamtheric!pekwm01:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pekwm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:00
iamthericnuked_omen, i install pro stock kernels01:00
Isaacariahjewbilee, can any media player play MP3's?01:00
jewbileeyea01:00
Isaacariahso its just amarok?01:00
Isaacariahthats playing up01:00
jewbileeRythmbox01:00
jewbileeyea01:00
Shadow_milIsaacariah: a lot of players can play MP3s01:00
jewbileebut rhythmbox also crashes everytime i try to import a folder01:01
IsaacariahShadow_mil, I know.01:01
dbernar1jkelly2005: what is the video file format+codec?01:01
RNtrythmbox uses the same plugin of amarok?01:01
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gnomefreak!mp3 > Isaacariah01:01
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Isaacariah?01:01
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jkelly2005dbernar1: .flv(flash video)01:01
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gnomefreakIsaacariah: read the pm from ubotu01:01
iamthericI feel myself scarcely competent to judge ubuntu multimedia apps01:01
iamthericjewbilee, just use snackamp, its really light and plays mp301:01
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dbernar1jkelly2005: sorry, I never had to play that.01:01
jewbileei cant find snackamp01:02
dmglouisok pinging now says destination host unreachable but the network cards got an address by dhcp now01:02
dbernar1RNt: no, it uses a different one.01:02
jewbileeiamtheeric: where is it?01:02
dmglouiscan anyone help me?01:02
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Isaacariahgnomefreak, I aint the one having multimedia problems ;) Its jewbilee01:02
dbernar1jewbilee: try xmms, it is in universe.01:02
jkelly2005dbernar1: well, it happens with any video file01:02
iamthericjewbilee, you have to dl it from their site01:02
Paddy_EIREis it possible to tell "gnome-screenshot" what the default resolution is for its screen shots?01:02
dbernar1jkelly2005: did you try playing a .mpg with totem?01:02
IsaacariahAnyone here ever compiled Wine from sourcE?01:03
iamthericPaddy_EIRE, its the same as your desktop01:03
jewbileeiamtheric: what is their website?01:03
Paddy_EIREoh01:03
Paddy_EIREnice one01:03
dbernar1Isaacariah: did you ask at #winehq?01:03
dmglouiscan someone help me? my ubuntu comp cant connect to internet01:03
IsaacariahI didnt, I'll head over there know thanks dbernar101:03
gnomefreak!wine01:04
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:04
gnomefreak^^ instructions to build it01:04
IsaacariahI know how to build it01:04
jewbileeoh god..01:04
The-EddieduceAre ther any users with Wine experience(No jokes please)? The Wine site's dead.01:04
jewbileelol01:04
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jewbileesomeone wanna help me with installing tar.gzs?01:04
gnomefreakIsaacariah: why are you asking if anyone has than?01:04
Isaacariahcause i wanna know how long make is gunna take01:04
Isaacariahits been like, 20 minutes since I typed it01:04
dbernar1jewbilee: try installing xmms through synaptic/apt first, and see whether that plays the mp3s for you.01:05
gnomefreakIsaacariah: depends on cpu it can take up to an hour or 201:05
jewbileeok01:05
jewbileeand for some reason01:05
jewbileei cant remove amarok01:05
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Isaacariahoh my life01:05
jewbileesays something is dependant on it01:05
jkelly2005dbernar1: strange, i tried a .avi file in totem and it plays but mplayer in ubuntu dapper played .flv files ok. it seems like an mplayer problem. mplayer wont play any video.01:05
Isaacariahits gunna be a late night01:05
gnomefreakIsaacariah: on a p4 1.7mhz on one app make took 6 hours01:05
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dmglouiscan someone help me? ubuntu doesn't get internet but is connected through router01:06
gnomefreakIsaacariah: it all depends on what flags you used the cpu the app01:06
Isaacariahppfft01:06
Isaacariahis that the longest process, "make"?01:06
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gnomefreakIsaacariah: yes01:06
Isaacariahthats good01:06
dbernar1Isaacariah: make is the compilation, right gnomefreak ?01:06
IsaacariahI had to change some source thingy just so some dumb game would work01:06
gnomefreakcheckinstall/make install really doesnt take much time01:07
dbernar1dmglouis: post the output of ifconfig to paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:07
Isaacariahthats good01:07
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gnomefreakdbernar1: no ./configure compiles it make makes it01:07
dbernar1gnomefreak: :-/01:07
AdamMKis there any way to obtain video previewing? like the audio previewing where if u hold ur mouse over the file it starts playing?01:07
gnomefreakmake install installs it :)01:07
jewbileeyea, XMMS worked01:07
dmglouisdbernar1: i cant that comp cant connect to internet01:07
dbernar1jewbilee: ya, that is what I use.01:07
jewbileeanyway to get rid of the debian logo01:07
jewbilee?01:07
dbernar1dmglouis: is there an eth0 entry in there?01:07
iamthericjewbilee, my connect is less than 4kbps, i cant01:07
iamthericThe-Eddieduce, you sure its dead?01:07
iamthericjewbilee, un compress01:07
gnomefreakbbiab01:07
dmglouisdbernar1: yes01:08
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jewbileewow..01:08
jewbileeXMMS is such a rip of winamp..01:08
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dbernar1jewbilee: you can try beep-media-player, that has an ubuntu theme. Google about it a little. it is also installable through apt-get or synaptic.01:08
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krazykitjewbilee: that was the point :-P01:08
dmglouisdbernar1: it has inet address and inet6 address01:08
jewbileehaha01:08
dbernar1dmglouis: what is the inet address?01:08
jewbileeits very handy01:08
dmglouisdbernar1: 192.168.2.13201:08
Isaacariahany quick way to find out my CPU specs?01:09
krazykitIsaacariah: cat /proc/cpuinfo01:09
Isaacariahcheers01:09
dbernar1dmglouis: and what is your router IP address?01:09
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dmglouisdbernar1: 192.168.2.101:09
The-EddieduceNot now since another user asked for assistance there. thanks.01:09
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dbernar1dmglouis: and you can not ping that at all?01:09
yokobrhi, someone can help me to install ktoon on ubuntu 64?01:09
IsaacariahAMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+01:09
Isaacariahhopefully wont take too long then01:09
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jewbileeso where can i get more skins for XMMS01:09
dmglouisdbernar1: it says destination host unreachable on terminal01:10
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Homerjewbilee: xmms skills are winamp compatable01:10
Homerskins01:10
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dbernar1dmglouis: and what do the eth0 related lines in /etc/network/interfaces say?01:10
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jewbileewow..01:11
jewbileethats totally awesome01:11
jewbileelol01:11
dmglouisdbernar1: iface eth0 inet dchp01:11
Ninja562thats a wrap for today folks, bye01:11
DJ_DanniHey i need help to install PHP MySql extension libraries. Can somone help me with that?01:11
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dbernar1dmglouis: and does "sudo ifdown eth0&&sudo ifup eth0" report any errors?01:11
dbernar1DJ_Danni: ask "aptitude search php|grep mysql"01:12
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DJ_DanniIn Terminal?01:12
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ks1dbernar1, you mean "sudo ifdown eth 0 && sudo ifup eth0" ?01:12
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dbernar1DJ_Danni: yes.01:12
ks1er typo01:13
ks1dbernar1, you mean "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0" ?01:13
dbernar1ks1: well, mine seems fine too. space is not needed, really.01:13
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ks1i dont know if it will work with the && all together01:13
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dbernar1it will, thanks.01:13
dmglouisdbernar1: well its working right now01:13
dmglouisdbernar1: not the internet01:13
dbernar1so that fixed it?01:13
DJ_Dannidbernarl i get a manny list01:13
DJ_DanniPM Me01:13
jewbileeso if winamp skins are compatible01:14
jewbileewhat do i have to do to install it"01:14
dmglouisdbernar1: it said no DCHPOFFERS received01:14
dbernar1DJ_Danni: ask google about ubuntu lamp01:14
dbernar1DJ_Danni: there are many tutorials on this topic.01:14
dmglouisno working leases in persistent database - sleeping01:14
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DJ_DanniI get manny List01:14
Shadow_milDoes Compwiz *have to have* XGL?01:14
blackgrazok01:14
blackgrazim having problems01:14
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blackgrazafter i install all i get is GRUB with a blinking cursor01:15
dbernar1DJ_Danni: follow this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP ask if something is not clear.01:15
Shadow_milcompiz*01:15
dmglouisdbernar1: now the network is unreachable01:15
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dbernar1dmglouis: it means that it can not get a lease from the router. Are you the owner of this router?01:16
firefly2442How do you rename an auto mounted external hard-drive?01:16
dmglouisdbernar1: yes01:16
|thunderdang, gnome baker takes an eternity covnerting mp3 to cdda to burn to Cd. Is there a nix version of nero, anyone ?01:16
dbernar1dmglouis: and do you have some kind of security set up for the router?01:16
dmglouisdbernar1: im not sure01:16
dbernar1firefly2442: take a marker, and write its new name on the case.01:16
dbernar1dmglouis: are there other computers using this router right now?01:17
|thunderfirefly2442; rename the mountpoint ?    you have to edit fstab01:17
dmglouisdbernar1: yea this one and another one01:17
jewbileecan someone help me install a winamp skin for xmms01:17
ciscosurferQuestion :: I have a kernel question for any kernel gurus01:17
nnany ideas on getting DoD CAC cards working in dapper? :)01:17
dmglouisdbernar1: what security stuff on the router could cause a problem for ubuntu?01:18
ks1|thunder, there is a *nix version of nero. I would personally try brasero it works great.01:18
ciscosurferWhen I upgraded to Edgy, I could actually Restart/Reboot fully (wouldn't have to hit my power button to reset) ... in Dapper, I cannot do this, do you think this is a kernel issue or something else?01:18
dbernar1dmglouis: it is not a problem just for ubuntu. Basically, your router is not giving you a dhcp lease, which is an IP address.01:18
MarcN|thunder: doesn't k3b do the conversion too?01:18
dbernar1dmglouis: ifconfig should now show no address for eth0.01:18
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|thunderthanks ks1 ill try it out01:18
dmglouisdbernar1: how come everytime i restart, it gets an address?01:19
ks1k3b is very good also but requires kdelibs01:19
dbernar1dmglouis: not sure, it should not make a difference.01:19
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DJ_DanniShut i see a PHP MyI have already do this all but i still get errors.01:19
dmglouisdbernar1: it does though01:19
dbernar1dmglouis: is eth0 shown in ifconfig with no inet addr?01:19
DJ_DanniCan somone help me on thos IRC01:19
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dmglouisdbernar1: well i just restarted so probably01:19
dbernar1DJ_Danni: what errors?01:20
dmglouisdbernar1: will have an inet add01:20
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dbernar1dmglouis: let me know.01:20
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DJ_DanniThe PHP MySql extension libraries are not installed on this server. This01:20
firefly2442|thunder: I don't see the name in fstab, is info stored someplace else for automounting?01:20
dbernar1DJ_Danni: what gives you that error?01:20
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|thunderfirefly2442; ohh, auto mount.  nopt sure.01:20
DJ_DanniWhen i am installing annythang with mysql Dadabase.01:21
dmglouisdbernar1: yup it has an inet add01:21
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dbernar1DJ_Danni: and what apache do you have?01:22
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DJ_DanniI have Apache 201:22
bomberohi friends, got new machine (2x 1000MHz Intel i386), how to chnge the standard kernel to SMP ? with apt-get01:22
dbernar1dmglouis: hm. and still no ping anywhere?01:22
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DJ_Dannii did sudo apt-get install apache201:22
dmglouisdbernar1: only to itself lol01:22
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dbernar1dmglouis: not sure why it would do that at all. good luck.01:22
|thunderfirefly2442; hit F2 on the desktop icon maybe. lol. but that wont change the mount point.01:23
dmglouisdbernar1: lol, you give up?01:23
dmglouisdbernar1: oh well thanks anyway01:23
|thunderfirefly2442; nm, that dosnt work on hard drive icons01:23
|thundergotta run to band rehersal. later all.01:23
dbernar1bombero: during install or after install?01:23
DJ_Dannidbernarl i am using apache201:23
dbernar1dmglouis: yes, there is nothing else I can think of to do. you're welcome.01:24
hikenboothello all I have tried for the last couple days to get the nvidia drivers working on this ubuntu host to no evail...I was able to get xwindows working by launching startx as root but when it boots regularly into graphical mode xwindows crashes...any idea?01:24
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bomberodbernar1, during install, im using the alternate CD -server install,01:24
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dbernar1DJ_Danni: I suggest you remove everything you did so far, and follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP I followed those and it worked.01:24
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sureshotdoes dapper have an server iso01:25
firefly2442sureshot: yes01:25
DJ_DanniBut it is all here:S:S01:25
snakemananyone running intelliJ 6.0+ in Ubuntu 6.06?01:25
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sureshotjust cant find it i will look harderr01:25
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snakemandebugging is VERY SLOW01:25
TLEsureshot: sure, it's in the download site. It's one of the options on the alternate cd01:25
sureshotthanks TLE01:26
sureshotgoing there now01:26
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johnnybezakhey everyone01:27
dbernar1bombero: I can only think of installing the normal kernel, then installing the smp one later, and changing the boot sequence to boot that kernel by default. To change the default kernel to boot, edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file after the install.01:28
hikenbootin the log I get the following messages failed to initialize GLX extension xf860OenSerial cannot open device /dev/wacom no such file or directory01:28
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dbernar1bombero: try reading the help on the install cd, it may have additional info for you.01:28
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bomberodbernar1, ok thanx01:28
johnnybezakanyone know how to ignore the joins leavges messages in irssi01:29
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dbernar1johnnybezak: /help ignore01:29
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bruenigwhen you do "aptitude search whatever" what do the p's and i's mean that precede the packages01:30
johnnybezakdbernar1: didn't do anything...01:30
dbernar1johnnybezak: look in your first window(alt+1).01:30
dbernar1johnnybezak: so, /ignore #ubuntu +joins would add the joins to the ignore list on the ubuntu channel.01:30
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dbernar1p means it is a package. i means it is installed.01:31
johnnybezakdbernar1: duhh.. hehe thanks :)01:31
bruenigthank you01:31
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bruenigwhat about id and v01:31
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sergevnDoes anyone has know issue's using Mplayer and Youtube at the sametime and one of them has no sound? I think the driver locks the sound device then, but can this be disabled?01:32
lennyanyone know the channel for initng help?01:32
sergevnYoutube = Flashplayer.01:32
TLEsergevn: Yeah I think flash uses the OSS sound system, and that can only handle one input01:33
johnnybezaksergevn: have you tried using a diff driver01:33
dbernar1v is virtual id means it is set for deletion, I guess. run aptitude by itself in a terminal, then read the help page with ? at the bottom there is a little bit of an explanation. Some of the letters are still unclear to me.01:33
jkelly2005im having trouble with mplayer playing flash video files. the sound lags. anyone know a fix for this?01:33
dbernar1lenny: are you sure it is not #initng?01:33
logankoesterI've installed my own copy of php and apache (part of the zend framework) - will this prevent me from installing mysql via apt-get?01:33
sergevnTLE: johnnybezak: I use the alsa driver :)01:34
lennyha yeah it is, I mis-typed it01:34
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dbernar1lenny: google is faster at answering such questions, though. I used "initng help channel irc" it told me that right away.01:34
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lennyyeah initng looks to be empty01:35
sergevnTLE: What drive can I use for that then ? :)01:35
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dbernar1lenny: ya, they have upstart now.01:36
TLEsergevn: Look I'm not sure. But as far as I have understood, OSS options will totally occopy your sound-device, and is the app only supports OSS out there is no fix. I think there is the same problem with Skype btw01:37
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shwagwhere are the working beryl repos ?01:37
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TLEsergevn: options -> applications01:37
lennyupstart isn't as fast as initng from what I have read01:37
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TLEsergevn: I must be drunk01:37
flyinghippoHello.01:37
lennysupposedly that is not the point of upstart?01:37
gnomefreakshwag: ask in #ubuntu-xgl01:37
flyinghippoI have downloaded the server edition.01:37
flyinghippoAnd I have successfully installed it onto my 2GB USB Drive.01:38
flyinghippoOut of curiousity, does it include a desktop software such as GNOME?01:38
flyinghippoIf not, would it be easy to install it.01:38
flyinghippo*?01:38
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WinstonWolfI have a feeling I am going to get flamed over this but...01:39
ciscosurferWhen I upgraded to Edgy, I could actually Restart/Reboot fully (wouldn't have to hit my power button to reset) ... in Dapper, I cannot do this, do you think this is a kernel issue or something else?01:39
Phlostenflyinghippo: does not have gnome by default01:39
bluefox83ok...i need to change my xchat background colors before i go blind...01:39
dbernar1flyinghippo: no it does not. the package name is ubuntu-desktop, and it should get everything for you.01:39
flyinghippoOkay, thank you.01:39
WinstonWolfI am an avid SlackWare user and trying to make the switch to Ubuntu on my laptop01:39
flyinghippoWhat desktop software does it have?01:39
flyinghippoGNOME?01:39
WinstonWolfbut I can't stand the fact that I dont have a built in C envinronment01:40
flyinghippoWait, Ubuntu-Desktop?01:40
Phlostenflyinghippo: ubuntu-desktop = gnome, kubuntu-desktop = kde01:40
johnnybezakWinstonWolf: so whats up01:40
flyinghippoDo you mean the desktop edition?01:40
blackgrazman01:40
johnnybezakWinstonWolf: install it01:40
WinstonWolfand I have tried to install the packages using apt-get but I get GCC4 and made 3.4 witch do not jive01:40
blackgrazcan anyone tell me why ubuntu won't boot01:40
TLEflyinghippo: No you can install the metapackage01:40
dbernar1flyinghippo: the ubuntu-desktop package will install all the standard desktop applications of an Ubuntu install. Ubuntu desktop uses gnome.01:40
flyinghippoOh.01:40
flyinghippoOkay.01:41
flyinghippoSo it's a package that can install onto the server edition?01:41
mcphailflyinghippo: trying to install GNOME on to a 2GB drive will be a real challenge01:41
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Phlostenflyinghippo: its a meta-package that installs everything required01:41
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sergevnTLE: Can i try installing the nvidia driver?01:42
TLEflyinghippo: if you're lagging space perhaps you should look for a smaller desktop enviroment01:42
WinstonWolfso anyt thoughts on the problems of gcc 4 and make 3.4?01:42
flyinghippoWould KDE be small enough?  =/01:42
johnnybezakWinstonWolf: are you using edgy or dapper01:42
dbernar1WinstonWolf: have you tried build-essential?01:43
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WinstonWolfthere doesn't seem to be a full C enviroment avaialble in ubuntu for gcc4 but if I try to install gcc3.4 I get all sorts of errors01:43
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SmotangHe does anyone know of a list of Console Commands? What i need at the moment is commands to navigate thru the filesystem using console01:43
WinstonWolfdbernar1 - I have not tried build-essential -- is that an option package from apt-get?01:43
docmurAny one here know of a CUPL program for linux01:43
AWOSDevSmotang, try "mc"01:44
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jribubotu: tell Smotang about cli01:44
SmotangAWOSDev: MC?01:44
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johnnybezakSmotang: ls = list directory, cd = change directory01:44
AWOSDevSmotang, you may have to apt-get it.01:44
WinstonWolfforgiveme but apt-get and any other software manager are foreight no me - I am used to downloading source and building01:44
flyinghippoActually...01:44
flyinghippoDoesn't Apt-Get have KDE?01:44
AWOSDevSmotang, "sudo apt-get install mc"01:44
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dbernar1WinstonWolf: ya, install that package. It is essential for building software.01:44
AWOSDevflyinghippo, yes, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"01:44
LjLWinstonWolf: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" will install gcc, make, and other stuff you normally need for compiling01:44
flyinghippoOkay.01:44
Madpilotubotu, tell Smotang about cli01:45
Crippy-BoyHey, im just wondering, is there any way you can request packages to be put into the repo;s01:45
flyinghippoAre Kubuntu-desktop and/or Ubuntu-desktop that big?01:45
SmotangThanks!01:45
docmurwhats big01:45
AWOSDevflyinghippo, ~300M each, about.01:45
flyinghippoOkay.01:45
Crippy-Boyor aleast the edgy repos01:45
flyinghippoThat's good.01:45
LjLCrippy-Boy: #ubuntu-motu i think. but be considerate01:45
MadpilotCrippy-Boy, yes - #ubuntu-motu is the channel you want01:45
docmurany way so anyone know of a CUPL program for linux01:45
flyinghippoHopefully I'll be able to get PPP working on this.01:45
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WinstonWolfdbernar1 - thanks! I'll re-install Ubuntu and try that01:45
johnnybezakflyinghippo: whats cupl01:45
Crippy-BoyThanks01:45
LjLCrippy-Boy: no, no edgy repos... you'll have to wait for edgy+1 (or at best, for the backports). edgy's frozen01:45
flyinghippocupl?01:46
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AWOSDevflyinghippo, good luck!  (seriously, I wish you good luck.)01:46
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docmurit's a programming language of logic boards like GALS01:46
wastrelubunto01:46
acetech747how does optical sound work in ubuntu?01:46
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dbernar1WinstonWolf: you are welcome. ttyl01:47
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AWOSDevHello.  I have a CD with data and audio, and I can access neither.  When I try and run a CD player it says "no audio disc or you have no permissions".  When I mount it, it does mount but it shows nothing when I ls.  What can I do to fix it?01:47
rockzhow i add a user in admin group ?01:48
acetech747anyone know how to get sound working on this?01:48
jribrockz: system > administration > users and groups01:48
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AWOSDevrockz: Also, from the CLI, "sudo adduser username admin"01:48
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rockzthanks guys01:49
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bulmerUbuntu and I are not friends..I 've been attempting to re-install on a multi-partition hd and it keeps getting stuck at 61% installing system..stuck..01:51
ks1check the cd.. ?01:52
bulmerwhy is this not so user friendly...grrr01:52
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bulmercd check was run and it is 100% okay01:52
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bulmerisnt there like a trace of the script what it is doing when installing or some kind of log to view?01:53
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LjLi don't know01:53
LjL!install > bulmer01:53
logankoesterI just installed phpmyadmin via apt-get and it put it in /usr/share. Is it safe to move it to my apache root? What am I supposed to do? /usr/share seems like a strange place to put a collection of php scripts that are intended to be accessed via web browser01:53
AWOSDevbulmer, the setup log is copied to your hard disk *after* installation...01:53
dbernar1bulmer: how big is the disk, and at what point is the ubuntu being installed? I mean, is it a 200GB HD, and ubuntu starts at 120GB...01:53
LjLbulmer: perhaps try the Alternate CD anyway. you might have better luck01:54
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SmotangIs this dangerous to do out of root:  Change dir ("cd DIRNAME" on console) to client/make/linux.01:54
TLEsergevn: I wont help. Please anybody correct me if i'm wrong. afaik the nvidia driver is only for graphics so that is besides the point. But, on the sound side there are twon different things ti worry about, the sound driver and the sound system, ALSE and OSS are sound systems, so applications can be written to use different soundsystems, and so if they are only written to use one of those systems it doesn't matter what sounddriver you use. Most applications t01:54
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bulmerit is being installed on a multipartitioned hd (120gig) .the install starts somewhere in the hda11 16383 blocks01:55
JKnifewhy is vilefridge banned?01:55
JKnifeis all Tor users banned?01:55
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LjLJKnife: yes, i think Tor is banned here. too much abuse from it01:56
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AWOSDevYes, Tor is banned.01:56
brettmhehe....last night I was using the live cd (dapper) to repartion my hd on an older laptop. my ntfs partition wouldn't shrink so I booted windows to defrag. Half way through my harddrive crashed. Certiasnly not blaming ubuntu of course ;-)01:56
JKnifeLjL: k01:56
AWOSDevwe had one come in to #Kubuntu looking for GNOME help because they were banned in here one night IIRC.01:56
JKnifehere people just need to get a hostmask -_-01:57
AWOSDevDoes anybody know the answer to my CD question?01:57
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AWOSDevJKnife, yeah I'd like that too, but I don't know how to get one.01:57
AWOSDevDo I PM an op?01:57
JKnifeAWOSDev: set a email and a linked name and go talk to a freenode admin01:57
LjLyou mean a cloak?01:57
AWOSDevI have an email...but a linked name?  What is a linked name?01:57
JKnifeLjL: same thing01:57
JKnifelike01:58
ZirJokeris there any spanish support channel?01:58
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LjL!es01:58
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:58
ZirJokerthx01:58
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AWOSDevOh yeah....01:58
LjLAWOSDev, JKnife: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks01:58
MadpilotAnyone wanting a basic @unaffiliated/* Freenode hostmask/cloak can join #ubuntu-ops01:59
SmotangIs this a dangerous command to use while out of root, I am in desktop at the moment:  Change dir ("cd DIRNAME" on console) to client/make/linux.01:59
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SpacePuppyAWOSDev, i'd look to see if something was holding mplayer/xine/..etc open .. or if I'd done any upgrading recently, i'd reboot as well.01:59
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JKnifeLjL: i have one01:59
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johnnybezakSmotang: cd? hell no01:59
brettmlogankoester: I believe you can serve a website from anywhere along as you configure it to read from the path...not certain why you feel this constitutes a security problem? As long as your virtual root is the phpmyadmin dir01:59
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gnomefreakSmotang: you dont ever use cd as root02:00
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Smotangim not in root02:00
Ket009Oi, can someone help the poor windows user with some linux stuff?02:00
ivxhey if i want to burn an iso to a disk can i just drag it over to the natulis and will is write is as files02:00
johnnybezakKet009: yeah whast up02:00
Madpilotivx, right-click on the ISO, choose Burn To Disc. Done.02:00
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gnomefreakSmotang: you asked is it dangerous to run cd outside of root my answer is you never run it as root02:00
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MadpilotKet009, helps if you ask an actual question first, you know. ;)02:01
Ket009Um I actually dunno if this is cause of linux but a friend of mines computers (one laptop with windows and one pc with ubuntu) keep having the same IP address02:01
logankoesterbrettm: I guess I'm just used to web files living in /var/www where they belong, rather than scattered around the filesystem at rando02:01
logankoesterrandom02:01
johnnybezakSmotang: but it sure as hell isn't dangerous02:01
ivxmadpilot: sweet, what about if i have mp3s i want to be cda?02:01
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eternalswdwhat program do I use to check crc32 sums?02:01
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^Ocean^hmm when i run xawtv it gives me X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode  so when i run xawtv -nodga it crash's X02:01
johnnybezakKet009: does one have a static ip, and the other getting an ip from a dhcp server?02:01
Madpilotivx, use Serpentine to create audio CDs02:01
logankoesterbrettm: anyway I moved it and it seems to work fine except that it can't connect to the mysql server, so I guess it's not an issue02:01
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ks1eternalswd: md5sum -c filename02:01
eternalswdthanks02:02
Ket009they both have the thign were it gives em an ip automatically02:02
logankoesterbrettm: But thanks for answering my question :)02:02
ivxmadpilot: thanks, is that serpentine gpl?02:02
brettmlogankoester: I here ya, seems strange02:02
AgentCywoo go cardinals!02:02
gnomefreakivx: gpl or gui?02:02
Madpilotivx, of course - it's included in Ubuntu by default02:02
johnnybezakKet009: from your router?02:02
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gnomefreakAgentCy: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic02:03
Ket009yah I guess02:03
brettmlogankoester: Yeah, I assume you have configured your config.inc.php file???02:03
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Smotangok another question, when i use sh on a config file it comes up with this error: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" how do i fix this?02:03
Madpilotivx, Applications->Sound & Video->Serpentine02:03
logankoesterbrettm: have not touched it02:03
ivxmadpilot: oh, i never noticed it on my computer. sorry silly question02:03
AWOSDevUh, it says in the FAQ to contact a project leader.02:03
AWOSDevWhos the project leader?  Is that an op?02:03
gnomefreakSmotang: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:03
ivxgnomefreak nevermind figured it out02:03
brettmlogankoester: that will be your issue then02:03
Smotangthanks gnomefreak02:03
gnomefreakAWOSDev: of what?02:03
gnomefreakSmotang: yw02:03
logankoesterbrettm: yep I know, I've been through that part before02:04
brettmlogankoester: ya know, the latest version messed me up too come to think of it02:04
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logankoesteroh yeah?02:04
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Madpilotivx, when you put a blank CD-R in, Ubuntu should show you a popup that asks what you want to do w/ the blank CD-R. Clicking the "Create Audio CD" button should launch Serpentine for you02:04
brettmlogankoester: they chyaged the setup02:04
logankoesterhow?02:04
gnomefreakAWOSDev: what FAQ?02:04
conhow do we enable ident server?02:04
logankoesteranything I should know about?02:04
conanyone know?02:04
AWOSDevgnomefreak, I want an Ubuntu/Kubuntu/any linux really... Cloak.02:04
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AWOSDevgnomefreak, it says in the Cloak FAQ to contact a project leader.02:04
ivxmadpilot, cool. ubuntu is impressive.  thank you sir02:04
brettmlogankoester: I just remember it was a pain in the ass to get working for some reason02:04
AWOSDevgnomefreak, are you a project leader?02:04
MadpilotAWOSDev, @ubuntu/member/* cloaks are only available to Ubuntu Members02:04
AWOSDevMadpilot, you mean on the Wiki?02:05
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logankoesterbrettm: uh oh...I desperately need this to take less than half an hour :(02:05
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gnomefreakAWOSDev: you need to be a member to have a ubuntu/k/x cloak please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode-social02:05
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Psy-Xhey02:05
meatfacehowdi02:05
brettmlogankoester: I've still got 2.4.6 running02:05
MadpilotAWOSDev, no, people who have been given Membership by the CC02:05
concan someone help me02:05
constop chatting02:05
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AWOSDevMadpilot, ah okay.02:05
conhow do i enable ident server02:05
Psy-Xok02:05
brettmlogankoester: which version are you trying to get working?02:05
logankoesterbrettm: well we'll see. I'll ask if you I encounter something you might have been through02:05
gnomefreakcon: when someone knows they will answer you02:05
logankoesterbrettm: 2.8.03-Debian102:06
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AWOSDevcon: Enable as in you want to run one or your firewall is blocking it?02:06
brettmlogankoester: I'm sorry I meant version of phpmyadmin02:06
logankoesterbrettm: that is my version of phpmyadmin02:06
conEnable as in i want to run one02:06
brettmlogankoester: ah ;-)02:06
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Ket009so nobody can help me with my duplicate IP problem?02:07
brettmlogankoester: sorry, I use debian servers but always untarred the source from the website02:07
conAWOSDev, can you show me02:07
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AWOSDevcon, I asked a question up there ^^^ are you trying to run an ident server or is your firewall blocking it?02:08
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brettmlogankoester: so do they still have a config.inc.php file?02:08
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logankoesterbrettm: mmh. I just need to get a development platform running on my laptop as quickly as possible, I can sort out any minor issues once I've got this project released :p02:08
AWOSDevUh, how do I get a voice on #freenode-social?02:08
gnomefreakAWOSDev: i think hes starting from scratch02:08
logankoesterbrettm: yep it's in /etc/phpmyadmin02:08
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gnomefreakAWOSDev: know someone :)02:08
brettmlogankoester: I assume you are using ubuntu then?02:09
gnomefreakAWOSDev: hold on a sec02:09
eternalswdks1, md5sum is 128 bit, I need to check crc32 (32 bit)02:09
brettmlogankoester: on the laptop?02:09
logankoesterbrettm: that's why i'm here :-p02:09
logankoesterYeah02:09
logankoesterkubuntu02:09
Mad3Max33 nights and Ubuntu still won't install.. I hate this.. Have tried everything.. from Memory to DVD drives ect..02:09
johnnybezakMad3Max3: what does it do?02:09
brettmlogankoester: right...my question is then....why not use mysql administrator02:09
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Mad3Max3does this ring a bell for someone.. hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit02:09
Mad3Max3hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit02:09
Mad3Max3Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 15634902:09
Mad3Max3hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit02:09
Mad3Max3hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit02:09
Mad3Max3Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 15634902:09
brettmlogankoester: and query browser02:09
logankoesterIt was the most beautiful linux install I've ever seen on a laptop, actually. Everything working besides audio right there on first boot :)02:09
MadpilotMad3Max3, pastebin next time, please02:10
AWOSDevMad3Max3 -- um, sounds like your CD drive is screwed up.02:10
johnnybezaklogankoester: wifi too?02:10
logankoesteryep even wifi02:10
gnomefreakAWOSDev: send a msg to PhilKC and ask how to get a cloak (keep in mind you cant get a ubuntu(k)(x) cloak)02:10
brettmlogankoester: I finally got a new DVD/CD drive from ebay last night. Tried to install ubuntu (finally) and my harddrive crashe!!! ;-)02:10
logankoesterbrettm: familiarity, I guess. I've always used PHPMyAdmin. Is it significantly more fun to use mysql-admin?02:10
johnnybezaklogankoester: awesome :)02:10
AWOSDevgnomefreak, okay thanks :)02:10
Mad3Max3AwosDev-- U could think that but No.. have tried 5 diffrent drives,, brands and speeds02:10
gnomefreakyw02:10
Ket009oi 865 people is too many people....02:11
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brettmlogankoester: on remote servers, I LOVE phpmyadmin02:11
brettmlogankoester: In some ways I liek it better02:11
AWOSDevMad3Max3, hmm, your IDE controller might be on the way out then.'02:11
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gnomefreakKet009: this is nothing02:11
johnnybezakMad3Max3: can you try a diff kernel?02:11
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logankoesterjohnnybezak: I'm not sure about things like the IR port or fingerprint reader though, haven't had a chance to try yet02:11
brettmlogankoester: but you're just an apt-get away from being able to admin your database02:11
Mad3Max3hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit02:11
Mad3Max3hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit02:11
Mad3Max3Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 15634902:11
Mad3Max3hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit02:11
Mad3Max3hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit02:11
LoRezWarning: `Mad3Max3' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.02:11
Mad3Max3Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 15634902:11
Mad3Max3sorry02:11
johnnybezaklogankoester: haha yeah fair nuff02:11
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Mad3Max3Sorry about the spam..02:12
gnomefreakMad3Max3: use pastebin!02:12
gnomefreak!pastebin > Mad3Max302:12
Mad3Max3pastebin is?02:12
logankoesterbrettm: I actually kinda dislike phpmyadmin, it does weird shit like use backticks innappropriately02:12
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gnomefreakread your pm02:12
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gnomefreaklogankoester: please watch your language02:12
johnnybezakMad3Max3: so that you dont spam the main channel02:12
logankoesterbrettm: But I know my way around it02:12
Mad3Max3ok!.. sorry.. wont happen again..02:13
logankoestergnomefreak: sorry, I wasn't aware this channel had a language rule. Won't happen again02:13
dr`venomhey guys, I was finally able to install ubuntu and the nvidia driver to my dimension 8300. However, I cannot seem to get a native resolution of 1440x900 for my LCD. Can any of you guys lend me a hand in this matter please.02:13
dr`venom?02:13
gnomefreaklogankoester: all #ubuntu-* channels do including k and xubuntu channels02:13
Mad3Max3someone said something about my IDE controller?02:13
brettmlogankoester: in that case just do  sudo apt-get install mysql-admin02:14
logankoesterbrettm: yeah, already got it. I'll look around02:14
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logankoesterbrettm: thanks for the suggestion :)02:14
brettmlogankoester: in that case just do  sudo apt-get install mysql-query-browser02:14
brettm;-)02:14
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killownanyone yet configured bot megahal?02:15
Mad3Max3Got the CD to boot after waiting a couple of mins .. first these error messages and then it boots. wont install thou.. hangs on some package02:15
AWOSDevMad3Max3 yeah to my knowledge that's what would be going out.02:15
brettmlogankoester: BTW I have the following line used in my conf file $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['auth_type']      = 'http';    // Authentication method (config, http or cookie based)?02:15
logankoesterbrettm: How important is it? It means installing gnome since I'm using kubuntu02:15
AWOSDevWas I kicked or something when Mad3Max3 spammed?02:15
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brettmlogankoester: ah , I'm a gnomie02:15
gnomefreaknot that i saw AWOSDev02:15
Mad3Max3AWOSDev, It's a completly new motherboard.. :( that blows02:15
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gnomefreakAWOSDev: you never left02:15
brettmlogankoester: well, it is the only way you can work with the queries really, admin doesn't do stuff liek that really02:15
logankoesterbrettm: is it worth it? I don't care about wasted disk space or anything02:15
AWOSDevgnomefreak, okay because my client cleared for some reason at <- Ket009 left02:16
logankoesterbrettm: Gotchya. mysql-admin doesn't do that?02:16
brettmlogankoester: Yeah, it's worth it...02:16
brettmlogankoester: right02:16
logankoesteralright02:16
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Stormfanggnomefreak AWOSDev brettm Searching how to change my skin of forum ???02:16
Mad3Max3saw now that lots of people has the same issues.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186115&page=202:16
brettmlogankoester: $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['host']           = 'localhost'; // MySQL hostname or IP address02:16
brettm$cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['port']           = '';          // MySQL port - leave blank for default port02:16
brettm$cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['socket']         = '';          // Path to the socket - leave blank for default socket02:16
brettm$cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['connect_type']   = 'tcp';       // How to connect to MySQL server ('tcp' or 'socket')02:16
brettm$cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['extension']      = 'mysql';     // The php MySQL extension to use ('mysql' or 'mysqli')02:16
gnomefreakbrettm: use pastebin02:16
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Mad3Max3lol02:17
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gnomefreak!pastebin > brettm02:17
logankoesterI'll probably have to install for something sooner or later anyway02:17
StormfangMad3Max3 timfros1 gaudtech Searching how to change my skin of forum http://w-o-wow.sytes.net02:17
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dr`venomdo you guys think ill be able to fix this resolution issue?02:17
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brettmgnomefreak: haven't use irc in years, thanks02:17
gnomefreakStormfang: please talk about WOW in #ubuntu-offtopic02:17
Mad3Max3Stormfang????02:17
gnomefreakbrettm: yw02:17
PhlostenStormfang is a spammer02:17
AWOSDevgnomefreak, uh is Stormfang spamming?02:18
Stormfanggnomefreak02:18
StormfangIm asking how change skin of forum02:18
Isaacariahinstalled my ATi drivers etc, and fglrxinfo STILL shows Mesa drivers being used.. how can i stop this?02:18
gnomefreakAWOSDev: not yet but if i see the link again he will be02:18
gnomefreakStormfang: this si not a forums help channel02:18
gnomefreaks/si/is02:18
PhlostenStormfang: in multiple channels it is spamming02:18
gnomefreakStormfang: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic02:18
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dr`venomissaccaria, I was having the same issues at first02:19
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brettmgnomefreak: btw I assume you know you need to comment skip-networking in your /etc/mysql/my.cnf file already02:19
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gnomefreakbrettm: im not having issues with mysql02:19
dr`venomI just had to type in nvidia for my drivers in the xorg conf file02:20
brettmgnomefreak: right, but for tcp services instead of default unix socket (or something or the other)02:20
Isaacariahhow can i find out my video card's BUS ID?02:20
brettmgnomefreak: whoops02:20
brettmgnomefreak: sorry using up arrow here ;-)02:21
gnomefreakbrettm: you just relized it wasnt supposed to be me ;)02:21
Smotangwhat does the tar.gz format stand for?02:21
Isaacariahhow can i find out my video card's BUS ID?02:21
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gnomefreakSmotang: its a compressed format02:21
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IsaacariahSmotang, Tarball GZip02:21
brettmgnomefreak: yeah, I'd been conversing with logan...02:21
ISOLATEDViRuSwhats the copy and rename commands?02:21
gnomefreakISOLATEDViRuS: cp02:21
Phlostencp and mv02:21
SmotangYeah, but usually with file associations they are an acronym of sorts. EG .dat is usally a data file02:22
gnomefreakISOLATEDViRuS: mv02:22
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brettmlogankoester: btw I assume you know you need to comment skip-networking in your /etc/mysql/my.cnf file already02:22
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logankoesterbrettm: what's that do?02:22
Isaacariahhow can i find out my video card's BUS ID?02:22
Smotangthanks isaacariah02:22
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brettmlogankoester: that allows apache to talk to your webserver basically02:22
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PierreIsaacariah: lspci02:23
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Isaacariahthanks Pierre02:23
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brettmlogankoester: good luck...time to go home02:23
logankoesterbrettm: apache to talk to my webserver? LOL02:23
logankoesterI'll assume he meant mysql02:23
logankoesterbut that would probably explain my problem :-D02:24
IsaacariahPierre02:24
Isaacariahif it says02:24
Isaacariah0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)02:24
Isaacariahthen what would i change  BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"02:24
Isaacariahto in my xorg.conf02:24
Isaacariah1:0:1?02:24
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Zer0Ry0k0Allright, I am in need of some assistance.  I am trying to install an Ubuntu/Windows Dual Boot (seperate HDDs).  Ubuntu should be primary and Windows slave.  Windows wants me to have an 8MB Boot partition in the master drive, but it won't let me change the drive letter from C to Z (or anything)02:25
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TLEDue to the large amount of problems with graphics drivers I'm trying to gather some statistics on the matter, to better help people deside what hardware to buy, and developers what things to focus on. If you've got the time, please participate in this poll, about how you experience with the official driver from ATI and NVIDIA have been, both positive and negative: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27835202:26
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logankoesterIf I run an application with like "kate &" and the konsole I used freezes, is it safe to kill that konsole?02:26
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Zer0Ry0k0also windows is really messed up for some reason.  I try to install the video card drivers and the resolution goes to minimal, without letting me increase it.  I have formatted at least once every hour all day today...02:27
TLElogankoester: yes02:27
Zer0Ry0k0but that's not important02:27
logankoesterTLE: that won't kill kate right?02:27
TLElogankoester: yes02:27
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AWOSDevZer0Ry0k0, just give up on Windows?!02:27
logankoesteralright, if I suddenly quit you'll know you're wrong....:p02:27
TLElogankoester: it will kill kate02:28
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Zer0Ry0k0I was told that I should have a second boot of windows to play Counter Strike02:28
Zer0Ry0k0that's all I want02:28
ivxhey how do you open the natilus with root privilages02:28
Zer0Ry0k0is CS on Ubuntu02:28
logankoesterTLE: too late! fortunately the only thing I had runnig from it was kopete02:28
Isaacariahif lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?02:28
txoof_the gnome resolution manager only shows 640x480 while this monitor should run up to 1024x768. /etc/X11/xorg.conf appears to have all the proper modelines but they don't show up.  Any ideas where I should start?02:28
logankoesterTLE: is there a solution to that problem?02:28
krazykitZer0Ry0k0: not gonna happen, unless you fork over for proprietary cedega, and it's still hit-and-miss.02:28
rbil<ivx> pick up a nautilus script to make that easy02:28
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logankoesterTLE: It seems kinda lame to leave frozen terminals all over the place02:29
rixth"grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" even though I have libc6 installed.02:29
TLElogankoester: threads in Linux are forked from where they are started, I thought you meant that Kate was crashing dreezing the terminal, my bad. But anyway it shure as he.. shouldnt freeze02:29
alan_hello, can I have a different wallpaper on each of my workspaces?02:29
logankoesterTLE: Well, one did :-/02:29
TLEshouldn't *02:29
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Zer0Ry0k0Okay, the way I heard it (I understand these people can be wrong) was that to make using WINE easyer, and to get CS running, I should install windows and CS on one partition, then basically WINE will run CS from the windows partition on a more stable OS02:29
logankoesterTLE: Is there a better way?02:30
Zer0Ry0k0or that I at least need the DLLs from the windows installation02:30
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TLElogankoester: otherwise start it from the menu. It's just wierd02:30
jribalan_: yes, but you will need to run something extra.  It is not in the repositories, but it is a fairly easy to setup python script called 'wallpapoz'.  Feel free to ask if you need any help setting it up02:30
surgyhi02:30
logankoester:( alright02:30
krazykitZer0Ry0k0: it's still not that easy.  d3d in wine is still too flaky02:30
fbcanyone know how to make firefox view quicktime video? I already install VLC and the mozilla plug-in but it's a no go. What else can I try?02:30
surgywhere is grub.list ?02:30
AWOSDevZer0Ry0k0, are you talking about Photoshop?02:30
surgyby defualt of course02:30
Zer0Ry0k0no, counterstike02:30
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logankoesterI don't like the menu, using the mouse is slow02:30
krazykitfbc: do you have w32codecs installed?02:31
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alan_Well, I have been really unsucessful at setting up flash under an amd64, is it THAT bad?02:31
jribsurgy: /boot/grub/menu.lst02:31
foureight84is is possible to put a live cd on a compact flash and boot from it?02:31
fbckrazykit:  nope is that a package I can select?02:31
txoof_how can I adjust the resolution in X?02:31
krazykit!seveas > fbc02:31
AWOSDevubotu, tell fbc about restricted02:31
Isaacariahif lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?02:31
krazykitfbc: add seveas' repo and install w32codecs.  then they should work fine.02:32
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TLElogankoester: I think you should try and investigate because no applications should freeze the terminal if you trail it with a & but I don't know enough to help you troubleshoot it02:32
AWOSDevkrazykit, fbc, personally I believe downloading it from the !restricted link I sent fbc is easier.02:32
Ranbeehi can someone show which of these will work as a session startup with wine, please?02:33
krazykitAWOSDev: yeah, but this way he can grab libdvdcss too ;-)02:33
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Isaacariahif lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?02:33
fbckrazykit: I did a search for in the synatics package manager for w32codecs, but nothing came up.02:33
AWOSDevkrazykit, ah true.02:33
surgyok can anyone tell me some possibilities why opra on ubuntu is about 50% slower  than it is on windows? do i have something messed up?02:33
Ranbeewine "C:\Program Files\Proxomitron Naoko-4\Proxomitron.exe"02:33
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krazykitfbc: did you add the repo and update?02:33
Ranbeeor this next one -02:33
Ranbeewine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program_Files/Proxomitron_Naoko-4/Proxomitron.exe02:34
Isaacariahif lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?02:34
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alan_jrib: how to set up 'wallpaoz'? is there a guide?02:34
fbckrazykit: Do I do that from the command line or in the package manager?02:34
krazykitfbc: i do it from the command line.  i've never used synaptic02:34
boris55edgy rc1 out thursday?02:35
jribalan_: the wallpopoz site has a short explanation02:35
alan_jrib: gotta go walk the dog, back in 1002:35
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AWOSDevIsaacraiah, please do not repeat your question so fast.02:35
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Isaacariahsorry02:35
krazykit!roadmap > boris5502:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about roadmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:35
surgyanyone?02:35
fbckrazykit: Sojust type !seaves inthe command line?02:35
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alan_jrib: wallpopoz, OK, I will check02:36
krazykitfbc: no, add seveas' repo to your sources.list, update, and install02:36
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Zer0Ry0k0I was reading the CS: S install page and it made it sound completly doable.  But to clarify, if I am able to get CounterStrike running on Ubuntu, does it require (or make it easyer) to have a windows partition also?02:36
gpro!jdk02:36
pyramidhi! i need a good repository comprehensive of skype and other applications (like multiverse, backports, etc). can anyone give me this file?02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
gpro!jdk02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
bruenig!easysource02:36
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:36
BCMacbookHello, i'm trying to get an isa sound card working on  6.06lts, ive been refered to isapnp, is this the best way to go about it?02:36
Isaacariahpyramid, check out Automatrix02:36
bruenigAutomatrix does not exist02:36
gpro!jsdk02:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jsdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:37
bruenig!msg the bot02:37
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops02:37
fbckrazykit: I'm about to ask a stupid question.Where do I find sources.list, and what program is it related to.02:37
Madpilotunfortunately, "automatix" does - it's a good way to break your Ubuntu...02:37
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Madpilotubotu, tell fbc about sources02:37
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Isaacariahsame thing02:37
_azraelfbc: sources.list is in /etc/apt/02:37
dougskofbc: /etc/apt/sources.list02:37
Isaacariahautomatix aint broken mine02:37
Isaacariahso i dont see the problem02:37
_azraelfbc: It's related to apt-get, the package manager.02:37
pyramidIsaacariah: what's automatrix?02:37
bruenigfbc, the sources.list is at /etc/apt/sources.list, it contains the repo and is used by apt-get or synaptic which is a front end for apt-get02:37
AWOSDevkrazykit, your looking for !schedule.02:37
bruenigreps*02:38
bruenigrepos*02:38
Madpilot!worksforme02:38
_azraelpyramid: automatix is a program that will break your system, don't use it.02:38
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.02:38
Isaacariahpyramid, its apparently evil and dangerous02:38
Isaacariahwhy will it break your system?02:38
dougskoIsaacariah: you must have been lucky. automatix has broken lots of people's stuff, its crap02:38
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Isaacariahhowso?02:38
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rbilthat's bs02:38
pyramidIsaacariah: thanks for the good hint! >(02:38
Isaacariaha bad worker will always blame his tools ;)02:38
_azraelEssentially, it doesn't update the installed/uninstalled and dependency database properly.02:38
dougskoIsaacariah: its not smart enough to be _that_ automatic02:39
MadpilotIsaacariah, it uses a number of dangerous options to force apt-get to do things w/o enough user feedback...02:39
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_azraelThe result is that when apt tries to do things later, it fails.02:39
Isaacariahpyramid, I'm indifferent on Automatix, Its worked fine for me, but a lot of people say its broken their system and stuff02:39
bruenigautomatix likely does not break the majority of the time, else it would not be used at all. It would get such negative feedback and commentary that it would not work. But it obviously doesn't work sometimes so I guess it is risk-reward thing02:39
Isaacariah_azrael, I actually had a problem like that with it02:39
pyramid_azrael: could you put in the past bin a good and secure sources.list? i need a good repo02:39
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jester45doesanyone know where to find a full list of desktops that ubuntu has02:39
MadpilotIsaacariah, yet you still recommend the thing? Wow.02:39
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Isaacariahhaha02:39
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Isaacariahwell it wasnt a problem with automatix as such02:40
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dougskoautomatix is simply unnecessary, its easy enough to do the things it does yourself without having things break02:40
Isaacariahit was my router resolving everything to 1.0.0.0, and apt-get going tits-up because of it02:40
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bruenigdougsko, gui is unnecessary also02:40
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rixth"grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" even though I have libc6 installed.02:40
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AWOSDev!language02:40
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:40
Zer0Ry0k0I was reading the CS: S install page and it made it sound completly doable.  But to clarify, if I am able to get CounterStrike running on Ubuntu, does it require (or make it easyer) to have a windows partition also?  I would prefer to not have windows atm because it's giving me so much trouble getting the videocard working02:40
dougskobruenig: well the gui really doesnt have anything to do with it. gui's are nice sometimes02:40
jester45does anyone have a link to all the desktop enviroment that ubuntu supoorts02:41
bruenigdougsko, but they aren't necessary, you can get what you want done without a gui02:41
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dougskobruenig: truth02:41
gnomefreakpcant look at pictures without gui02:41
jester45i tried !desktop but there isnt that much there02:41
gnomefreak-p02:41
pyramidcan anyone give me a good, complete and secure sources.list?02:41
AWOSDevDoes anybody know how to fix my CD problem?02:41
RMorris84im trying to share files with my computer with a roomates of mine who has xp, and when he tries to access my computer on the share, its asking for a password, where do i find that at?02:41
bruenigpyramid follow the following ubotu post02:41
gnomefreakjester45: there are many of them02:41
rixth!ASK02:41
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:41
bruenig!easysource02:41
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:41
bruenigrixth, screwed that one02:41
SpaceFrogI have Flash7 for Firefox on my computer, but the sound is never in sync when I watch video (Youtube, mainly)... Does anyone else experience this same problem?02:41
jester45gnomefreak: do you know of a list02:42
Isaacariahif lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?02:42
bruenigSpaceFrog, yeah, no solution works that I have tried02:42
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jester45gnomefreak: i would only like to use apt-get02:42
gnomefreakSpaceFrog: alot of people do its a known flash bug and will be fixed in flash 902:42
RMorris84and also when im trying to access his its not showing up anything says : the folder contents could not be displayed, couldnt display "windows network: sony-vaio"02:42
AWOSDevSpaceFrog, Yes!02:42
Shadow_milwhy am I getting like a download speed of like 20 KPs?02:42
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gnomefreakjester45: there are 3 -desktop meta packages but there are other desktop eviornments you can get02:42
Smotanghey do i just use apt-get install to install all these: "SDL", "SDL_mixer" and "SDL_image"?02:42
Shadow_milFor the online repos02:42
gl0beWhat is a GTK+ Engine?02:42
SpaceFrogokay guys, thanks :)02:43
bruenigShadow_mil, use a mirror02:43
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gnomefreakjester45: fluxbix blackbox openonbox xfce kde gnome enlightenment and many others02:43
jester45gnomefreak: i know but !desktop says there are "others"02:43
gnomefreakfluxbox even02:43
gnomefreakjester45: only 3 meta packages though02:43
jester45!desktop02:43
ubotuThe available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.02:43
cheesyis ist hard to get a 3d desktop(xgl) in ubuntu?02:43
gnomefreakubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop02:43
AWOSDevHow often is the 'correct' length of time to repeat a question?02:44
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dougskocheesy: theres a 3d desktop package02:44
jester45icdwm is a meta i think02:44
Madpilotcheesy, that depends - but try #ubuntu-xgl for XGL questions02:44
gnomefreakcheesy: ask in #ubuntu-xgl they make it sound simple sometimes02:44
Smotangdo I just use apt-get install to install all these: "SDL", "SDL_mixer" and "SDL_image"?02:44
cheesyah thx02:44
gnomefreakjester45: no it just grabs the DE02:44
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cheesyppl are nice in here ;)02:44
gl0beAWOSDev: I was wondering the same thing02:44
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Smotangthey are SDL librarys02:44
gnomefreakSmotang: i would think SDl will install the other 2 but might be wrong02:45
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Smotangthanks gnomefreak02:45
jester45gnomfreak: whats the diffrence02:45
_BC_Hello, i'm trying to get an isa sound card working on  6.06lts, ive been refered to isapnp, is this the best way to go about it?02:45
aaron_i have an sis7012 onboard sound card on my laptop, but i am getting no sound, ALSA recognises it though02:45
gnomefreakSmotang: yq you will know if it does02:45
Smotanggnomefreak: shouuld i use sude before apt get for them?02:45
Smotang*sudo02:45
Isaacariahif lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?02:45
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gnomefreakjester45: ubuntus meta packages for DE's install everything including most used apps its a complete DE02:45
gnomefreakSmotang: yes02:45
jester45Smotang: yes use sudo02:45
Smotangthanks02:46
gl0beCan somebody tell me What a GTK+ Engine is?02:46
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bruenig!gtk02:46
ubotugtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications02:46
jester45gnomefreak: o thanks02:46
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bruenigshouldn't it be called gimptk, since gimp is itself an acronym?02:46
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cheesycan some1 tell me his opinion..why should i choose ubuntu over mandriva? (i think i will do..)02:46
gl0bebruenig: so then what is a GTK+ Engine?02:47
rixth!aolbonics02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aolbonics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:47
bruenigbetter support cheesy02:47
cheesykk02:47
Isaacariahcheesy, Cause we're not french02:47
Isaacariahand yeah, better support02:47
cheesylike more than 8times the ppl in the chan ;)02:47
brueniggo check out the mandriva room, whopping 103 in there02:47
rbil<isaacariah> all the xorg.conf examples I see for ATI cards, leave the PCI as you stated. Why do you think it needs to be changed?02:47
txoof_how can I adjust the resolution in X?  I've attempted to use the gnome resolution tool, but I can't change the resolution from 640x480.  Where's a good place to start?02:47
gnomefreak!fixres02:48
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:48
dougskocheesy: debian's package management system is nicer02:48
gnomefreaktxoof_: ^^ read that02:48
_BC_Ok, ill try a different question, my burner is recognized, ubuntu goes through the image creation step when i  try to burn a cd through a burn folder, as soon as it goes to write, it end real quick and reports the cd is complete. cd doesn't burn and is just blank.. any ideas?02:48
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cheesyok i will delete mandriva02:48
Isaacariahrbil, because no matter what I do to try and get my ATi card working, it still comes up as that mesa thingy in fglrxinfo02:48
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cheesyubuntu will be my love ;)02:48
Zer0Ry0k0So to clarify, if I am able to get CounterStrike running on Ubuntu, does it require (or make it easyer) to have a windows partition with CS also?  I would prefer to not have windows atm because it's giving me so much trouble getting the videocard working...02:48
rbilwell then maybe that's the question to ask? sorry, I have no direct experience with ATI cards and xorg02:48
Isaacariahfair enough02:49
AWOSDevchessy, Yay!02:49
cheesy:)02:49
mister_robotoanyone have any recommendations among XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM for low memory, poor video machines? what's the lightest?02:49
krazykitIsaacariah:         BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"02:49
bruenigcheesy, or I suppose you could interpret it to mean that ubuntu is so bad, it has 8x as many people who are having troubles with it.02:49
dougskomister_roboto: fluxbox is awesome02:49
krazykitIsaacariah: i think that's what you need.02:49
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mikm[laptop] I'm a fan of Fluxbox myself for low-em systems02:49
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BenMcLeanHello!02:49
Isaacariahkrazykit, thats what I have at the moment02:49
jribmikm[laptop] : I like flux02:50
cheesybruenig: :D02:50
BenMcLeanAnybody know anything about getting linux on an iBook G3?02:50
jribmister_roboto: I like flux too02:50
mister_robotothanks guys :)02:50
AWOSDevHello.  I have a CD with data and audio, and I can access neither.  When I try and run a CD player it says "no audio disc or you have no permissions".  When I mount it, it does mount but it shows nothing when I ls.  What can I do to fix it?02:50
BenMcLeanI have never used linux before and I wanna check it out! :)02:50
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krazykitIsaacariah: do you have a "Section "DRI" with Mode 0666?02:50
AWOSDevBenMcLean it will work.02:50
cheesyformat c:02:50
Isaacariahkrazykit, Yes.02:50
BenMcLeanwill it be fast though?02:50
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cheesycu cu02:51
BenMcLeanand how fast?02:51
AWOSDevBenMcLean, no clue02:51
aaron_can anybody help me, i have a laptop with onboard sis 7012, which i cannot get any sound out of (even though its recognised in the Alsa mixer)02:51
BenMcLeanAnd will it be able to read large NFTS external hard drives?02:51
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BenMcLeansee I've always been a MicroBorg ... i mean soft ... Microsoft Drone (tm)02:51
_BC_... this sucks :(02:52
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hobbesmasterBenMcLean: then why do you have an ibook g3?02:52
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blackgrazok02:52
BenMcLeanreason #1: I want to familiarize myself with systems other than Windows / IBM02:52
BenMcLeanreason #2: it was only 20 bucks!! :)02:52
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BenMcLeanis xubuntu faster?02:53
Zer0Ry0k0So to clarify, if I am able to get CounterStrike running on Ubuntu, does it require (or make it easyer) to have a windows partition with CS also?  I would prefer to not have windows atm because it's giving me so much trouble getting the videocard working...02:53
fbckrazykit: I got the w32codecs installed however one of the websites said that totem-xine firefox plugin was the way to go.02:53
krazykitBenMcLean: with low memory, yes.02:53
BenMcLeani'll prolly wanna go with xubuntu then02:54
krazykitfbc: meh.  mplayerplug-in is my preference.  it doesn't really matter much.02:54
_BC_anyone have experience with isapnp?02:54
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BenMcLeanwill xubuntu install in Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 so i can play with it before trying it on the laptop ?02:54
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granbarHey there. IVTV won't find my firmware files. Does anybody know where I should put the IVTV firmware files?02:54
Zer0Ry0k0Does anyone here use computers to play Computer Games?02:54
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granbarZer0Ry0k0: Yes.02:54
krazykitZer0Ry0k0: i use pen and paper to play computer games.02:55
hobbesmasterZer0Ry0k0: CS or CSS?02:55
granbarZer0Ry0k0: Take a look at happypenguin.org02:55
Zer0Ry0k0that's all I want to do, on a stable system02:55
Zer0Ry0k0thanks02:55
Zer0Ry0k0source02:55
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granbarkrazykit: That must be hard02:55
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hobbesmasterdo you have an nvidia or ati graphics card?02:55
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Zer0Ry0k0nvidia02:55
Zer0Ry0k0and an old ATI02:55
Isaacariahwell this is screwed02:55
krazykitgranbar: yeah, but there's a lot less idiot-speak.02:55
Megaqwertyis there a specific channel for audio, or should I ask my question here?02:55
BenMcLeanmost peoples recommend windows for games02:55
Isaacariahwould uninstalling the mesa thing work?02:55
_BC_alright thanks anyway folks.. i think ill try mandriva02:55
granbarkrazykit: Do you have a TV-Card configured on your system?02:55
krazykitIsaacariah: no!02:56
Isaacariahok ok02:56
BenMcLeanits about all windows is really good for if I am to believe what I am told02:56
Isaacariahi wont do that then heh02:56
krazykitgranbar: nope.02:56
hobbesmasterZer0Ry0k0: nvidia has better support, especially under wine/codeweaver/cedega, which is what you'd need to run it under02:56
Zer0Ry0k0good02:56
Zer0Ry0k0=)02:56
granbarkrazykit: Ok. Would you know where firmware files are to be placed?02:56
Isaacariahkrazykit, I've been trying all day to get it to work, nothing seems to do the trick02:56
MegaqwertyDoes anyone know how to convert .m4a to .mp3?02:56
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krazykitgranbar: of course not.  i don't have one.02:56
hobbesmasterZer0Ry0k0: each of the mentioned apps (wine is the only free one) plug their playability of the source engine games02:56
krazykitIsaacariah: yeah.  this is an old ati card, right?02:56
IsaacariahATi Radeon 955002:57
bruenig!info gnormalize02:57
ubotuPackage gnormalize does not exist in any distro I know02:57
granbarkrazykit: Okay. Thanks though02:57
slopwhich package is the one that gives you the ability to play mp3's from the console using the command 'play'?02:57
krazykitIsaacariah: i'd swear the OSS drivers supported 9600 and down with 3d... but maybe they're in xorg 7.1 :-/02:57
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DarthVinemanAnyone here?02:57
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AWOSDevDarthVineman, well there's me :)02:57
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DarthVinemanAlrighty02:58
Isaacariahkrazykit, how do i find out what version of xorg I have?02:58
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krazykitIsaacariah: you have 7.0 if you're on dapper.02:58
DarthVinemanHow would I set up a dual boot between this (ubuntu) HDD and my windows HDD?02:58
Isaacariahyeah I am.. easy to upgrade?02:58
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krazykitIsaacariah: lemme upload my xorg.conf so you can look at it.  i have fglrx going.02:58
krazykitIsaacariah: no.02:58
Isaacariahcheers02:58
Isaacariahkrazykit, what card you using? and you on 7.0/02:58
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krazykitIsaacariah: x300se on 7.002:59
Isaacariahand it works fine?02:59
krazykityeah.02:59
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AWOSDevDarthVineman, um, well...install Ubuntu last.02:59
Isaacariahweird02:59
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IsaacariahI know the x series is a lot later than the 9550, but the 9550 is hardly an old card02:59
DarthVinemanIve got Ubuntu on one HDD and windows on a seperate02:59
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RMorris84im trying to get my network setup and im having trouble, i installed samba, and i can see the other computers but when i try to access my files from an xp machine its asking me for a password, where do i find the password or turn it off02:59
DarthVinemanIm trying to have it so on boot my bios will let me decide which to boot into02:59
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Zer0Ry0k0Darth, you need to install windows first and ubuntu last, windows is dumb and dosen't look, ubuntu is nice and looks for windows03:00
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DarthVinemanIve got Ubuntu on one HDD and windows on a seperate HDD03:00
dr`venomhey guys I sort of got the resolution working, just missing one piece of the puzzle. When I log into ubuntu my resolution gets all wacked, so I have to reset the resolution to 1440x90003:00
krazykitIsaacariah: http://thephlogiston.com/misc/xorg.conf03:00
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BenMcLeanHey ... could I get the thing to run any emulators for like, DOS 6.2 ?03:00
BenMcLeanxubutu I mean03:00
DarthVinemanIm not doing partitions03:00
dr`venomanyone know how I can fix that03:00
DarthVinemanIve got seperate HDD's03:00
krazykitBenMcLean: dosbox?  i /think/ it works on ppc03:00
Zer0Ry0k0same with seperate HDDs03:00
Zer0Ry0k0windows is dumb03:01
DarthVinemanOk03:01
BenMcLeanyeah03:01
BenMcLeanwindows is pretty crappy03:01
DarthVinemanSo would I start up windows and then plug in my ubuntu HDD?03:01
BenMcLeanbut um, DOS 6.2 was actually quite good in my opinion03:01
gnomefreakguy leets keep windows topics out of this channel please03:01
DarthVineman...03:01
Zer0Ry0k0I don't know if you can save the ubuntu install, easyest thing (only thing I know if really) is to reinstall ubuntu03:02
dr`venomyea, someone please help me with ubuntu03:02
DarthVinemanIm trying to figure out dual booting, stfu03:02
BenMcLeanyeah03:02
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rbil man smbpasswd03:02
Isaacariahkrazykit, it all looks the same03:02
BenMcLeanand I'm trying to figure out whether any ubuntus will read NFTS drives and whether its safe to plugin my external hard drive to a xubuntu laptop03:02
gnomefreakDarthVineman: watch your language and i hate this or that is not helping you03:02
sjbrownwhen i telnet to 127.0.0.1 on port 80, i get the listing of /var/www/  when i lynx -dump it shows me some other server's page03:02
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sjbrownis it my proxy server?03:03
AWOSDevUhoh, someone ticked off gnomefreak :P03:03
dr`venomI think the install cd will due the dual booting automatically no?03:03
sjbrownis lynx not picking it up from my environment?03:03
Zer0Ry0k0Darth all you NEED to do is have Windows installed before installing Ubuntu03:03
krazykitIsaacariah: strange.  you have fglrx installed through apt and everything?03:03
Isaacariahyeah its all there03:03
krazykitIsaacariah: module loaded?  check lsmod|grep fglrx03:03
BenMcLeanoh crap03:04
rbil<Isaacariah> maybe this will help you ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14328303:04
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BenMcLeanwhich one of these should I download? http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/download.php?main=103:04
Isaacariahfglrx                 388908  003:04
Isaacariahagpgart                34888  2 fglrx,sis_agp03:04
AWOSDevcan somebody please help me with my CD problem?03:05
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AWOSDevI would *really* appreciate it.03:05
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krazykitIsaacariah: ok, so fglrx is there.  this is gonna be a brief hack and not the most secure thing, but... you could sudo chmod 777 /dev/dri/card0 and restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace, just to be absolutely sure it's not a permissions problem03:05
david_I am having trouble connecting to non-private networks with my wireless card03:05
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AWOSDevOkay an incentive: first person to fix my CD problem gets op status on my new channel.03:06
Isaacariahkrazykit, ill try that now, hold on03:06
BenMcLeanum, people, I'm going to #xubuntu if anyone wants to talk to me thanks :)03:06
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gandolfthewizardhi all03:06
gandolfthewizardhave a quick quetion03:07
david_I am having trouble connecting to non-private networks with my wireless card, It's an AWLH302503:07
david_it uses the Texas instruments chipset03:07
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rbilwe're all waiting with baited breathe03:07
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Isaacariahrighty, one sec03:07
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gandolfthewizardwhat is the best text editor to do html coding on linux ubuntu03:07
Isaacariahkrazykit, still no luck03:08
rbiljoe03:08
AWOSDevgandolfthewizard, I pick Kate.03:08
Isaacariahhow do i reverse that chmod buisness i just did03:08
AWOSDevsorry03:08
gandolfthewizardkate were do i get it from03:08
AWOSDevKdevelop, *not* Kate.03:08
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_aasics_gandolfthewizard, do you want something like DreamWeaver or just something with syntax highlighting03:08
PumpkinPieHello03:08
gnomefreakgandolfthewizard: there is no best but nvu bluefish are a few03:08
krazykitIsaacariah: chmod 666, like in xorg.conf03:08
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PumpkinPieIm trying mkfs -m 1 -t ext3 /dev/sdb1  to lower my reserve blocks to 1% but that doesn't work. How do I do it?03:08
AWOSDevgandolfthewizard, sorry it's Kdevelop not kate, and you can get it in both synaptic and apt-get.03:08
Smotan1How to search the packages that are available through apt-get ?03:08
gandolfthewizardsyntax highlighting its for school i can get dreamweaver but can't use it for school03:08
AWOSDevSmotan1, apt-cache search whatver.03:09
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Smotan1thanks03:09
_aasics_Smotan1, apt-cache search <descriptor, name>03:09
krazykitIsaacariah: and at this point, i really don't have any other ideas.  try running through !ati again and googling around some.  i need to get back to homework03:09
AWOSDevgandolfthewizard, syntax highlighting use Kdevelop, on the CLI it would be       sudo apt-get install kdevelop03:09
Isaacariahkrazykit, well cheers for the help anyhow03:09
AWOSDevgandolfthewizard, supports CSS, HTML, JavaScript, PHP, and any combination of the four on one page.03:09
Isaacariahim gunna read that webpage someone just posted for me to check out, ill do that tomorrow, im going to bed03:10
Isaacariahciao03:10
AWOSDevgandolfthewizard, as well as Perl, Python, Ruby, CGI and others that you aren't interested in :P03:10
krazykitIsaacariah: good luck!03:10
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Isaacariahcheers03:10
Mad3Max3looks like Dapper has serious problems.. the forum thread just goes on and on with ppl with that problem.. all sorts of wacky workaround and ect...03:10
gnomefreakAWOSDev: most of the big html editors have syntax highlighting for html if it doesnt there is a package tyou can install for it iirc03:10
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gnomefreakMad3Max3: dapper has very few problems03:11
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gandolfthewizardis it universal and read on windows text editor?03:11
Mad3Max3gnomefreak : The statistics says diffrent03:12
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totall_6_7Mad3Max3: i have had no problems with dapper03:12
gnomefreakgandolfthewizard: you can read any saved html file on any system03:12
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gandolfthewizardok03:12
gnomefreakMad3Max3: what has problems in dapper03:12
ianmacgregorMad3Max3: I have had zero problems with Dapper03:12
Manyfoldi have a problem with logging in it takes for ever also when installing software i get the error warning: error occured during execution of /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update03:12
PumpkinPiehow do I create a file system with custom reserved blocks?03:12
gnomefreakPumpkinPie: gparted?03:13
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gandolfthewizardwell i just wanted to make sure because for some reason my visio 2003 did not work with my professors this week so i had to redo it03:13
ianmacgregorThis is actually the best distro I have ever used.. and I have used around 20 different distros.03:13
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rbilyeh, please tell me about the probs with Dapper, as I must be missing them.03:13
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Mad3Max3I has to do with hardware and such.. it has to do with the installer and liveCD not working.. stalls at mounting root file system03:13
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gnomefreakgandolfthewizard: html files will have a .html ot a .hml or something like that03:13
PumpkinPiegnomefreak: I dont have gparted? how do I do it with mkfs?03:14
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Mad3Max3breezy works but not dapper03:14
gnomefreakMad3Max3: hardware is not a problem with dapper most of the time03:14
krazykitrbil: there's a bug with intel drivers in xorg7.0 that the video using XV-out causes washed-out video, due to a broken gamma setting :-P among others03:14
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Manyfoldcan someone help me?03:14
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gnomefreakPumpkinPie: man mkfs   its been a very long time since i did it that way03:14
Zer0Ry0k0!ask03:14
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:14
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bluefox83will ubuntu allow you to mount a partition without using sudo?03:14
Mad3Max3Atlest Im happy Im not the only one with the problem!03:14
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gnomefreakbluefox83: most of time no03:14
smotangUsing Gaim is there any way to reconnect automatically to a channel once you have been D/C?03:15
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rbilwhat is your prob other than "hardware and such"?03:15
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bluefox83gnomefreak, i need to get ubuntu to mount my second partition with permissions that will allow my media player to use it03:15
shasboti just installed the edgy beta, and synaptic is recommending a dist-upgrade, do i want to do that, or would it put it back to 6.06?03:15
Mad3Max3rbil, that the liveCD won't boot.. and meaning that I can't install dapper03:15
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gnomefreakshasbot: dist-upgrade will upgrade you not downgrade you03:16
gnomefreakshasbot: edgy in #ubuntu+1 please03:16
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shasbotthanks, and i will ask there next time03:16
Zer0Ry0k0MAD3MAX,  do you have your CD drive boot before your HDD in your BIOS?03:16
mighty_falconcan someone help me with kde, how do you turn off the animation when you move your mouse over the minimzed windows?03:16
rbilwhat type of machine are you trying to boot it on?03:17
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ArrenLexmightyfalcon: what animation is this?03:17
Mad3Max3Zer0Ry0k0, well.. I wouldn't get as far as "Mounting root file system" if I hadn't put that I should boot from CD03:17
Mad3Max3it*03:17
richieHello does anybody know how I can change the format of a harddrive without losing any of the files contained in it?03:17
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mighty_falconwhen you move your mouse over the minimzed windows instead of just a normal tootip it has a small animation with a fade ArrenLex03:18
Zer0Ry0k0k, just checking, I only read your lasty post03:18
ivxcan anyone recomend sources to get the w32 codecs from03:18
krazykitrichie: not really.  ext2 -> ext3 is about it, really.03:18
ArrenLexOh.03:18
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krazykit!seveas > ivx03:18
richiekrazykit: not know how to go from NTFS to ext3?03:18
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krazykitrichie: no, you can't do that.03:18
johnny_i am having a problem with sudo killall gnome-panel to refresh the gnome panel... when i refresh the gnome panel it kicks me out of desktop and into login panel why si this happening?03:19
mighty_falconArrenLex: any idead03:19
mighty_falconideas*03:19
richiekrazykit: well it's possible to do it in Windows using partitionmagic, I was just wondering if it was possible in linux03:19
nargWhat option would you use to have apt install the recommended packages automatically?03:19
Mad3Max3got a new bug now.. "BUG : Soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" ??03:19
krazykitrichie: err, no, it's not possible to NON-DESTRUCTIVELY change from ntfs to ext3.03:19
ArrenLexmighty_falcon: I always do it at startup when I set up my desktop with kpersonalizer. How to do it without kpersonalizer, I have no idea, but I'm looking.03:20
PumpkinPieim already using ext503:20
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PumpkinPieyou're slow03:20
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krazykitPumpkinPie: doubt it.  ext4 was just released for testing :-P03:20
rbilMad3Max3: you're using dual core then?03:20
ArrenLexxDD There is no ext5.03:20
PumpkinPiethere is ext503:20
totall_6_7richie: IF you format from ntfs to ext3 you will loose all of your info on the drive, if (according to what was said here) you go from ext2 to ext3 you will not loose your info03:20
nargPumpkinPie: pft, I must be behind the times, I'm using extSqrt(2)03:20
mighty_falconArrenLex: ok tnx, i installed berryl and it makes the fade lag a sec or two behind03:20
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LockDogHow do i associate ed2k files from sites with amule?!03:20
PumpkinPieIm using fedora 15.203:20
PumpkinPiebleeding edge03:21
LockDogre03:21
lwhi03:21
richietotall_6_7: no way to keep my files? I have ALOT of files on my harddrive, but I don't want it to be read only, I'm having no luck, i've experimented, NTFS-3g and the like, but none are successful03:21
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johnny_would anybody know when i sudo killall gnome-panel it kicks me out my desktop and into login menu?03:21
Mad3Max3rbil, no! lol03:21
krazykitrichie: you could buy an external hard drive and back it up that way.  or a bunch of CDs/DVDs03:21
totall_6_7richie: back them up, and reformat03:21
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lwi cannot log into system using another account, anyone can help?03:21
ianmacgregorjohnny_: Why would you need sudo for killall gnome-panel?03:21
rbilI've heard of softlock probs with Python with dual core03:22
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richiecan't afford to do things like that, which is why i'm using linux in the first place heh03:22
johnny_well after install of some apps it is needed03:22
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ArrenLexmighty_falcon: right-click on Kicker and go to Configure Panel. Go to the appearance section. Uncheck "enable icon mouseover effects".03:22
boris55anyone want to recommend some good wiki software?03:22
johnny_correct? thats what the tutorials say after install of some apps03:22
krazykitrichie: err, how much data are we talking about here?03:22
RogerRabbboris55 such as wikimedia?03:22
richie13,000 files averaging at about 7MB each03:23
krazykitboris55: mediawiki03:23
mighty_falconArrenLex: kicker?03:23
lw i cannot log into system using another account, anyone can help me??03:23
ArrenLexmighty_falcon: the kde panel.03:23
ArrenLex!kicker03:23
ubotukicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 1855 kB, installed size 5576 kB03:23
vanhtu1987Hi, has anyone got an idea of how to setup gpm for a three-button mouse (2 normal ones and a scrolling wheel) ?.03:23
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ianmacgregorboris55: And if you don't want to mess with mySQL, there's PmWiki03:23
GhostFreemanHow do I install additional mouse cursors?03:23
totall_6_7richie: how much (in total size) do you have on your ntfs drive03:23
mighty_falconArrenLex: ok, where do you want me to look under appearence03:23
LockDog!kicker03:23
richiewait, let me just remount in read-only03:23
LockDog;)03:23
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ArrenLexIt's at the very top, mighty_falcon. The very first checkbox.03:24
SherdogI just saw the server "version" of ubuntu with lamp. My goal for a machine is bitttorrent/ftp no gui, and Im pretty new to linux. Would this be pretty much out of the box?03:24
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krazykitSherdog: kinda.  ftp will take a little setup, and headless bittorrent a little more.03:24
richietotall_6_7: 139gigs, but i don't need to keep all that03:24
krazykitbut it's doable for a newbie.  there are good guides around03:24
boris55ianmacgregor: I don't mind databases.  I'll check it out.03:24
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mighty_falconArrenLex: got it! thank you very much03:24
_aasics_Sherdog, FTP is basically a one liner for apt-get; and editing a couple lines in a text file03:24
RogerRabba bit torrent tracker or downloader Sherdog?03:25
ArrenLexmighty_falcon: you're welcome! Enjoy beryl :)03:25
krazykitrichie: then it'd be better to get ntfs-3g working if you can't back that stuff up03:25
GhostFreemanHow do I install additional mouse cursors properly?03:25
MotorCitymadManhello: cant mount usb memory stick. I've been all over the net for selfhelp. need help mounting this usb03:25
richiekrazykit: experienced in ntfs-3g?03:25
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Sherdogty both.. And is this ftp relativly secure? I come from gene6 ftp on windoze..03:25
richiekrazykit: it's being a fag and won't mount, even after ntfsfix03:25
krazykitrichie: no.  i haven't had an ntfs drive for almost 2 years.03:25
krazykit!language > richie03:25
mighty_falconArrenLex: something strange happened once i installed baryl, i cannot seem to be able to have more then 1 dektop even when i configure the amount of desktops03:25
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ivxkrazykit when i try to use those sources and update it says deb [WWW]  http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx dapper-seveas freenx03:25
ivxdeb-src [WWW]  http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx dapper-seveas freenx03:25
vanhtu1987MotorCitymadMan: Does anything happen when you plug the USB stick in ?03:26
Zer0Ry0k0allright, I just got another semi-idea03:26
Zer0Ry0k0...03:26
ArrenLexmighty: I don't run beryl and I don't use more than one desktop so I can't help you there, sorry.03:26
richiekrazykit: heh, sorry, didn't realise what i said was such a strong cuss word03:26
ivxkrazy kit pasted wrong thing03:26
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krazykitrichie: no, it's just offensive.03:26
vanhtu1987MotorCitymadMan: Ubuntu should support most USBs out of the box.03:26
ArrenLexmighty: how about asking in #ubuntu-xgl?03:26
krazykitivx: wait, don't paste again03:26
Zer0Ry0k0could I install windows on my other HDD with the Ubuntu one unplugged, then install ubuntu after plugging it back in and... have it all be happy?03:26
Zer0Ry0k0windows being secondary (slave)03:27
ivxkrazykit it is only 2 lines. is that 2 much03:27
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krazykitivx: http://thephlogiston.com/misc/sources.list   format the seveas part like in mine.  find the #comment about seveas03:27
mighty_falconArrenLex: excellent, tnx for the tip again :P03:27
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SkarrHey guys, what is a network port?03:27
ArrenLexivx: convention on IRC is that pastebin is for anything over two lines.03:27
Skarr*modem potr03:28
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MotorCitymadManvanhtu1987@: yes, kde daemon jumps up and then i click ok, then nothing03:28
[1] BigBadHossunder ubuntu, how do i get tftpd workking03:28
[1] BigBadHossthis is 6.06 LTS server03:28
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Megaqwertydoes anyone know how to convert .m4p so I can play it in linux?03:28
[1] BigBadHosslol03:28
_aasics_Skarr, it is where different applications listen03:28
krazykitMegaqwerty: did you download it from itunes?03:28
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_aasics_Skarr, modem port?03:28
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[1] BigBadHossm4p is protected03:28
Megaqwertykrazykit: yeah03:29
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SkarrHow do I know which one is mine? It's where the phone line is connected, correct?03:29
_aasics_Skarr, sorry, ignore that last message.  Modem port is 56k03:29
krazykitMegaqwerty: then you can't.03:29
rdouglashey all WZUP?03:29
_aasics_Skarr, yes03:29
Zer0Ry0k0could I install windows (slave) on my other HDD with the Ubuntu one unplugged, then install ubuntu (master) after plugging it back in and... have it all be happy?  I'm hoping that will eliminate the boot partition.03:29
[1] BigBadHossanybody know about tftpd?03:29
Megaqwertykrazykit: why would it matter if I got it from itunes?03:29
ArrenLexMegaqwerty: those files are protected. You can't legally convert it to anything you can listen to -- it's against DMCA. If you live somewhere DMCA doesn't apply, check out QTFairUse.03:29
krazykitMegaqwerty: and you've just learned why DRM is bad.  iTunes stuff is protected.03:29
elvishello,i 'm new here, i 've no idea  how to perform a http download in cli mode,any information about it would be appreciated03:29
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Skarr_aas| It cant auto detect it, and I tryed all the default ones, but none worked right.03:29
[1] BigBadHosswget <link>03:29
krazykitelvis: wget http://shens03:29
Megaqwertykrazykit: dang that stinks03:29
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Megaqwertythey should get some kinda itunes for linux03:30
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GhostFreemanyeah they should03:30
rdouglasTrue03:30
elvis: )  thank u very much03:30
[1] BigBadHossyou can run it in wine03:30
krazykitMegaqwerty: you could try it in WINE, but it's not guaranteed to work right.  it might though.03:30
mighty_falconto achieve the whole transperent feel in the taskbar of kde (something like the taskbar in OSX) does that jsut depend on the theme or?03:30
[1] BigBadHossdont use 703:30
[1] BigBadHosstry to get an older version03:30
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Megaqwerty[1] BigBadHoss: you think oh, I was just gonna ask that03:30
[1] BigBadHoss7 is buggy03:30
RogerRabbMegaqwerty there's banshee (most like itunes) and amarok (far better than itunes in my opinion) for linux03:31
rdouglasreal buggy03:31
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krazykitRogerRabb: but they don't play DRM files like iTunes does03:31
MegaqwertyRogerRabb: The point was so I could play .m4p in linux03:31
Megaqwertyinstead of having to reboot into windows every time I want to hear my music03:31
RogerRabbugh, right.. umm well, what's the name of that app which gets rid of the drm?03:31
[1] BigBadHossjust get qtfairuse03:31
GhostFreemanSharpMusic?03:31
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[1] BigBadHossfuck the dmca03:31
ArrenLex!language03:32
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:32
GhostFreeman!mouse03:32
mabreauxlibdvdread303:32
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto03:32
[1] BigBadHossshutup bot03:32
GhostFreeman!cursors03:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cursors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:32
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Megaqwerty[1] BigBadHoss: darn right. And of course it only applies in the US03:32
RogerRabbqtfairuse..indeed.. It depends on your country..dcma being in america only..depends on local laws etc03:32
[1] BigBadHosswho cares03:32
wastreldmca03:33
GhostFreemanok, so I installed a new set of cursors mostly by hand and it didn't rewrite the "Loading in Background" cursor icon that Human uses. What's going on here?03:33
[1] BigBadHossyoure breaking the protection for purposes of interoperobility03:33
ArrenLexmighty_falcon: you can configure the transparency in kicker. Appearance - enable transparency and03:33
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MegaqwertyI think if we bought it, we should be allowed to play it...hey! I just got an idea! Burn it to a cd, and then rip the cd to the computer!!!03:34
[1] BigBadHossits an exception if you look at it that way03:34
krazykitMegaqwerty: ack.  horrible transcoding sounds though.03:34
byteshackhow can I determine which packages a .deb depends on? ie. what packages does the prevu .deb depend on?03:34
Skarr_aas: Well?03:34
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ArrenLexBigBadHoss: you can argue with the courts whether or not it's an exception. QTFairUse does not apply to Ubuntu past whatever is needed to answer a question. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic03:34
lennyanyone decent with initNG on edgy?03:34
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krazykitlenny: #ubuntu+103:34
lenny+1?03:35
krazykityes03:35
krazykitjoin #ubuntu+103:35
ArrenLexlenny: it's the ubuntu edgy channel.03:35
lennyis that the official term for edgy03:35
ianmacgregorlenny: it's the edgy channel03:35
mighty_falconArrenLex: :D thank you again, very helpful03:35
Megaqwertykrazykit: seriously? you mean like with qtfairuse? or my suggestion?03:35
lennythx03:35
LockDogHow do i associate ed2k files from sites with amule?!03:35
krazykitMegaqwerty: burning/ripping.  it'll sound bad.03:35
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LockDogHow do i associate ed2k files from sites with amule?!03:36
Megaqwertykrazykit: eh, if it means I can play it in linux without having to get it drm-free from torrents (I'm against doing anything illegal) then I'll go for it03:36
rdouglasHey I'm javeing trouble ripping from my CD's03:36
rdouglassorry I meant having....03:36
ArrenLexkrazykit: actually, QTFairUse6 dumps out the AAC data without loss of quality; it doesn't just capture whatever is sent to the sound card, like any Audacity can do.03:36
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ArrenLexMegaqwerty: if you live in the US I warn you QTFairUse6 is illegal.03:37
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ArrenLexMegaqwerty: if you don't, I believe the wikipedia entry has a download link and some info on how it works.03:37
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rdouglasI purchased the CD's and I DJ so I wanted to make a second copy...03:38
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MegaqwertyArrenLex: I know, someone told me that DMCA applies, and thus it is Illegal, I was never planning to use it.03:38
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Megaqwerty(I reside in the US)03:38
some_guyHello03:38
rdouglasany advice...03:38
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ArrenLexMegaqwerty: ah, morals. I remember when I had those. :)03:38
Megaqwerty* correction, I was planning to use it, until i learned it was illegal03:39
GhostFreemanif you live in the u.s. everything you do is subject to the undermining of the government, you are a terrorist by default.03:39
ArrenLexMegaqwerty: I suggest you buy CDs, then, and rip them.03:39
biebbuy CDs? can you actually do that?03:39
ivxhey after the win32 codecs are installed should they just work on there own or do you have to reboot or anything03:39
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MegaqwertyLOL03:39
_aasics_rdouglas, what ar eyou looking for?  a ripper?03:39
byteshackanyone here used prevu?03:40
ArrenLexivx: they'll just work, provided your media player knows where to look for them.03:40
rdouglasI did... but having problem ripping in Ubuntu.03:40
GhostFreemanbuy...CD? I do that03:40
RogerRabbmay as well send a letter to apple + anyone else relevant explaining you're having to get the same thing twice, because of the restrictions placed on it03:40
some_guyany one know the best eyecandy for ubuntu?03:40
nkayhanHiTech69, I'm having some mplayer firefox pluggin issues03:40
_aasics_some_guy, GLX03:40
some_guythanx03:40
MegaqwertyArrenLex: my sister downloads a lot of stuff from iTunes, I usually just use one of her licenses on my Computer, but I haven't been able to get it to work in Ubuntu, which is why I'm here.03:40
some_guyill look it up03:40
ivxArrenlex will the w32 codecs support avi also?03:40
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MegaqwertyAnywho, I'm going to go reboot, and try my (brilliant?) workaround03:41
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_aasics_ivx, avi is just a capsule,  several different codecs could be in avi03:41
Megaqwertyin Windows03:41
ArrenLexivx: You don't need w32codecs to play avi files. All common avi formats are supported by default.03:41
AWOSDevHello.  I have a CD with data and audio, and I can access neither.  When I try and run a CD player it says "no audio disc or you have no permissions".  When I mount it, it does mount but it shows nothing when I ls.  What can I do to fix it?03:41
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ArrenLexMegaqwerty: I'm sorry, there's just nothing we can offer you that isn't illegal for you. No solution exists because of DRM. = /03:41
nkayhanWhenever I play a video that's more than like aminuit long, all I see is grey with a statis bar.  Any ideas?03:41
lennyanyone know their way around initNG?03:41
byteshacksome_guy: glx :)03:41
biebMega.. there are better ways than iTunes03:41
blackgrazok03:41
MegaqwertyArrenLex: Argh03:41
ivxarrenlex i am trying to play an avi, i couldn't play it so i installed the w32codecs. it still won't play03:41
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blackgrazI have a problem with GRUB03:41
ArrenLexivx: what media player?03:41
nkayhanany ideas?03:42
some_guyCan GLX run with any grafix card?03:42
rdouglashome depot has Grub remover... lol03:42
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mikm[laptop] some_guy no03:42
_aasics_some_guy, I have it running on intel graphics03:42
some_guyATI 9200?03:42
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blackgrazhahah03:43
blackgrazwell03:43
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ivxarrenlex it just says media play. it came installed by default03:43
blackgrazGRUB locks up on me03:43
rdouglas:-)03:43
biebok.. I have a permissions question...03:43
Megaqwertybieb: I know, but my Sister gets all her stuff from there, and it is all too convenient for her due to the fact that she has an iPod, so yeah. (She uses Windows) I haven't been able to find a decent Content Protection program for linux, so he won't let me install Ubuntu on her computer03:43
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blackgraznow when i boot from the CD and tell the CD boot my HD it loads03:43
ArrenLexivx: that's probably VLC. Ubuntu compiled it so that it doesn't support w32codecs AFAIK. You'll need to install something else.03:43
blackgrazwhats up?03:43
Megaqwertyif anyone has any suggestions on a Content Protection program though...I'd be open to suggestions03:43
ivxarrenlex alright i'll see what happens. thanks03:44
Seeker2599can ubuntu run rpms?03:44
Megaqwerty(Content Protection=Parental Controls)03:44
biebI have a small webserver running Ubuntu, I have been editing the pages directly on the server with pico.. no problems...03:44
GhostFreemanWhat are the prospects of IceWeasel officially taking over Firefox in the releases following Edgy?03:44
ArrenLexMegaqwerty: why is your sister interested in parental controls? o_O03:44
RogerRabbSeeker2599, no, but you can use alien to convert an rpm to deb03:44
Seeker2599!alien03:44
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).03:44
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sigwhats the command to see what channels someone is in?03:44
ArrenLex /whois, sig?03:44
MegaqwertyArrenLex: no she isn't, my dad won't let me give her linux unless he can install them on Ubuntu03:45
k1dsudo alien package_file.rpm03:45
biebI have Dreamweaver on my work PC and want to be able to ftp the updates from work.. what group should I add the regular user to? the web stuff is owned by root:root03:45
ArrenLexOuch.03:45
GhostFreemanif your sister (or I assume parent) wants to use content protection, then she's probably not being a decent sister or parent03:45
Seeker2599ty k1d03:45
lwcant log into system using another account , anybody can help me???000003:45
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MegaqwertyArrenLex: indeed03:45
Megaqwertylol03:45
Megaqwertyit's mostly so we don't accidentally click a misleading link in google that would take us to a porn site03:46
k1du r welcome03:46
GhostFreemanthat's why you ask in IRC if this link is going to lead you to Last Measure03:46
GhostFreeman=)03:46
Megaqwerty?03:47
kitcheMegaqwerty: there is a few programs that dow hat you want03:47
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Megaqwertykitche: are they in the repos?03:47
krazykitMegaqwerty: content protection?  squid proxy + setup03:47
AWOSDevMegaqwerty, I read an article online about Squid.03:47
Megaqwertyah, thanks03:47
biebsomeone mentioned adding the regular user to the "wheel" group03:47
Megaqwertyanywho, I need to work, so thanks for all your help! bye.03:47
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kjonI have a question. Is there a way to use the ACPI features of a non-original toshiba laptop? I got one, but it has a phoenix bios, so it spits toshiba_acpi out and I got no advanced acpi support.03:49
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krazykitkjon: it should have the BIOS features that any other semi-decent BIOS has.03:50
sethkanybody have a URL about the nvidia security problem in the channel subject?03:50
sethksorry, channel topic is the correct word03:50
krazykitsethk: eh... it was on slashdot recently03:50
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krazykitsethk: not really an issue unless you're exporting X-sessions to untrusted users.03:51
sethkkrazykit, hmm, I'm not sure I believe it, if it's only on slashdot  :)03:51
kjonkrazykit: sure, but I've got no hotkeys nor good battery performance.03:51
sethkkrazykit, I only export sessions to myself at work, so I'm probably safe.  :)03:51
kjonwithout toshiba utilities, my machine drains its battery in 1:30 hrs.03:51
Pierresethk: http://download2.rapid7.com/r7-0025/03:51
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sethkPierre, thanks03:52
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sethkhmm., says it's been around since 2004.  That doesn't really prove anything but it probably isn't virulent.03:53
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biebok.. I have a permissions question...03:53
biebI have a small webserver running Ubuntu, I have been editing the pages directly on the server with pico.. no problems...03:53
biebI have Dreamweaver on my work PC and want to be able to ftp the updates from work.. what group should I add the regular user to? the web stuff is owned by root:root03:53
biebsomeone mentioned adding the regular user to the "wheel" group03:54
Jeatonwhat app is that for X that pretty much resembles MS Office03:54
Jeatonwell, not resemble03:54
Jeatonbut it's more of a replacement03:54
Seeker2599does ubuntu come with alien installed?03:54
biebJeaton... Open Office or Star Office03:55
sethkSeeker2599, it doesn't come with anything installed.  It comes on a cd as a set of packages03:55
JeatonOpen Office, that's it03:55
k1dno, seeker259903:55
sethkSeeker2599, whether it is installed depends on which install options you choose.03:55
biebwhat is alien?03:55
sethkbieb, a thing that lets you use rpm packages.03:56
GhostFreeman!alien03:56
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).03:56
sethkbieb, dangerous03:56
Seeker2599can i get alien from the add/remove programs?03:56
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k1du can03:56
sethkSeeker2599, probably.  synaptic has better searching03:56
rudahey n00bs03:56
biebgotcha03:56
Seeker2599whats synaptic?03:56
rudaSeeker2599: is what you got in your brain03:56
sethkSeeker2599, a front end for the package manager03:57
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starskysynaptic != alien ; alien is from slacker's world, synaptic is from human world. :)03:58
host`what's a good mp3 player for linux?03:58
krazykitruda: no, those are synapses03:58
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fatbrain!libpng03:58
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libpng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:58
starsky!vlc03:58
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs03:58
sethkkrazykit, his may be missing.03:58
fatbrainWhy can't I install the libpng / libpng-dev package?03:58
kitchehost` umm it depends on your taste really03:58
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rudafatbrain: because something is wrong03:59
fatbrainruda: indeeds03:59
pike_host`: xmms is my choice usually03:59
host`I want something that you don't have to do a lot of clicking to edit playlists, unlike mplayer03:59
rudafatbrain: what have you tried?03:59
fatbraincies (manly)03:59
fatbrainapt-get install lilbpng-dev03:59
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fatbrain(sudo ofc)03:59
host`I was about to get xmms03:59
krazykithost`: amarok, maybe?04:00
rudafatbrain: and what do you got?04:00
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kitchehost` amarok or banshee04:00
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fatbrainI did toy with the sources.list a couple of days ago...04:00
fatbrainhrm...04:00
lwexaile04:00
pike_host`: amarok might be a little better then..04:00
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rudafatbrain: so rollback your souce.list , apt-get update and then try to install again04:00
kitchehost`: if you have gnome I would use banshee04:01
fatbrainwill try that, thanks04:01
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fatbrainworked now04:01
timfrost!info libpng304:01
fatbrainthanks04:01
ubotulibpng3: PNG library - runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.8rel-5 (dapper), package size 0 kB, installed size 24 kB04:01
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marcusgrazettehi, i'm having problems with swapon -a command.04:03
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richiehello does anyone know the correct plugins i should get to run m4a audio files?04:04
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marcusgrazettegetting the error message "swapon: /dev/hda4: Operation not permitted"04:04
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krazykitrichie: faad, i think.04:04
sheriffis there anybody who can help me about Java04:04
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pike_marcusgrazette: thats 'sudo swapon -a' right?04:04
rudamarcusgrazette: try to reset the swap partition04:04
kitchesheriff: yes what is wrong exactly04:04
richiekrazykit: cheers.04:04
mphillwhen gdm starts it goes into a out sync error on the screen, I do a control+alt+back space then it works.  any idea on how to fix it? so i don't have to do that?04:04
marcusgrazettehow do i reset the partition?04:04
rudamarcusgrazette: sudo mkswap /dev/hda4 (be sure)04:05
rudamarcusgrazette: and then sync04:05
rudamarcusgrazette: and after , try to activate again04:05
sheriffkitche: i just downloaded java creator and installed it was working well but now it starts without any menu or screen04:05
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k1d04:05
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[1] BigBadHosshey how do i get tftpd to work with ubuntu server 6.0604:05
sethkmphill, the default resolution is too high for your monitor04:05
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sethkmphill, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and remove it.04:06
AbstAnyone know where to obtain libmono1.0-cil04:06
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marcusgrazetteruda: thanks! that worked great04:06
ElohimusI'm having issues configuring my xorg. I have a radeon 9200, I've installed the fglrx driver but now I'm getting the error: "no devices detected"04:06
marcusgrazetteruda: i've been trying to figure out how to do that for 2 days04:06
kitchesheriff you mean Sun Java Studio Creator right?04:06
rudamarcusgrazette: cool04:06
sheriffkitche : well after i had installed java installed beryl.. could it be the problem04:06
wastrelElohimus:  i believe the open source driver supports 3d for the 920004:06
sheriffkitche : yeah04:06
sethkAbst, try the libmono and libmono-dev packages, if you haven't already04:06
spinz8rHv this msg" hda/dev4 mounted 32 times without being checked, checked forced. and then countdowntimer. Boot normally after that. Is this normal?04:06
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sethkspinz8r, yes.  you can override it04:07
Abst!info libmono04:07
ubotuPackage libmono does not exist in any distro I know04:07
Abst>_>04:07
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sethkspinz8r, tune2fs can be used to set the check interval, or turn it off completely04:07
kitchesheriff: might be due to beryl but what do you see on the screen when Creator loads exactly?04:07
sethkspinz8r, turning it off completely is not recommended, but you may want to disable the auto check so you can decide when to take the time hit.04:07
sheriffkitche : just an empty form04:07
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rudaau revoir04:08
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sethkSherdog, try file/new, IIRC04:08
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spinz8r<seth> tks. how do i override it? or shall i leave it as it?04:08
sethkSherdog, sorry, tab completion04:08
sheriffkitche : it says it loads everything but nothing comes up except an empty form04:08
sethksheriff, , sorry, tab completion04:08
argoeI'm a linux noob...when Ubuntu says I have updates to linux-headers and linux-image and that stuff...is it safe to install or is it going to blow up my system?  Seems like I did that once some time ago and ended up reformatting.04:08
sethksheriff, , sorry, tab completion04:08
kitchesheriff: yeah probably a beryl problem04:08
sethksheriff, , try file/new, IIRC04:08
sethkgot it.  :)04:08
MTecknologyWhat GDM was it that gives you a desktop like a cube that you can rotate?04:08
Elohimuswastrel: this tutorial I'm reading says to use the fglrx.04:09
sethkargoe, not completely safe, no.04:09
kitchesethk: kinda hard to do that with a menubar isn't it04:09
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kitchewithout/with04:09
sethkkitche, with a menu bar?  do you mean without a menu bar?04:09
Sherdogsethk np pal :)04:09
argoesethk: thanks.  I thought so.  So it's ok to just let those be, right?04:09
sethkkitche, and, no, it isn't, because there are shortcuts04:09
sethkargoe, right04:09
ElohimusIt says no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:10:0) found04:09
argoesethk: thank you very much04:09
sethkargoe, I always wait a few days and let someone else be the guinnea pig  :)04:09
sheriffsethk : what \ sorry i didnt understand what you said04:09
marcusgrazettealso, i'm having a problem backing up some data to dvdr. i'm moving from windows, and want to backup my iTunes library. i'm trying to use CD/dvd creator with an external dvd burner. i keep getting the error "file too large for filesystem" i have about 7gb free04:09
argoesethk:  I've been waiting on these for a few weeks hehe04:10
holycowhas anyone here setup software raid1 using d-I?  just curious if you were able to install grub to the mbr or not ... my attempts are failing in various configurations04:10
sethksheriff, on the designer, creator, whatever they are calling it these days, there should be a way to create a new empty form.04:10
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argoesethK: 2.6.15-2604:10
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logankoesterI made a link with ln to a directory, if I rm -f the link, will rm follow it or simply remove the link?04:11
kitchesheriff: sethk do you want the menu bar back sheriff?04:11
johnccchow do I add a user in the terminal?04:11
sethkargoe, it's probably fine, but, on the other hand, if you don't need to fix anything, why upgrade?04:11
timfrostElohimus: what id does lspci give for the video card?  You should be using that04:11
bimberijohnccc, sudo adduser04:11
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sheriffsethk : no the application doesnt work i mean there is an empty form when it works..i cant do with it04:11
argoesethk: that's my feeling as well.  just wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking any cardinal rules :)04:11
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johncccbimberi, thanks04:12
Elohimustimfrost: 0000:01:0a.004:12
bimberijohnccc: np :)04:12
sethkargoe, right.  sooner or later you'll have to upgrade for some reason or other, but I prefer later to sooner.04:12
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sheriffkitche : well i disabled beryl but it still didnt work i guess i have to re-install it04:12
bimberilogankoester: removing a symlink (ln -s) will remove the link only04:13
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logankoesterbimberi: thanks04:13
kitchesheriff: well you can use a shortcut probably but I don't know the exaact shortcuts of Creator04:13
bimberilogankoester: np :)04:13
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host`I kind alike amarok04:14
argoesethk: thanks again.04:14
sethkbimberi, remove any link, sym or hard, removes the link only.04:14
timfrostElohimus: have you tried 'PCI:1:a:0' rather than 1:10:0?  And have you tried letting it be auto-detected (in 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg')?04:14
bimberisethk: thanks, i wasn't sure about hardlinks :)04:14
kitchehost`: it's ok if you like a lot of kde dependencies just like banshee pulls all of gnome04:15
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bomberohighvolt1ge, how to change with apt-get the kernel from single CPU to SMP ?04:17
krazykitkitche: amarok only pulls in kdelibs and kdebase, if you remove the "suggested" and "recommended" packages04:18
ElohimusI have tried letting it by itself and it doesn't work. For some reason it keeps looking for BusID PCI:1:10:004:18
host`I'm checking out banshee too, just to be able to compare04:18
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sethkElohimus, you realize that 0xa is decimal 10?04:18
GhostFreeman!e1704:18
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.04:18
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GhostFreemanthanks ubotu, vauge as ever04:19
krazykitGhostFreeman: if you're interested in e17, google for easy-e17.sh04:19
Elohimussethk: I don't convert between them in my head.04:19
ElohimusI wasn't even thinking 0xa was 10.04:19
GhostFreemanthanks04:19
kitchekrazykit: yeah I just noticed that it only depends on KDElibs04:21
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infonomicHi, can anyone help me get printing on Dapper Drake?04:22
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RagePrblmDoes anyone konw the command to install xvid codecs from terminal?04:22
RagePrblmif there is one04:22
starsky!info libsdl04:23
ubotuPackage libsdl does not exist in any distro I know04:23
Distro^Junkiepython-extattr <--- where can I find this ?04:23
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host`how do I go back and uninstall packages? like I installed something and all it's deps, how do I uninstall all of them at once?04:24
kitche!info sdl04:24
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host`is there a way?04:24
ubotuPackage sdl does not exist in any distro I know04:24
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infonomicI can't even see /dev/lp* from the live CD...04:24
sheriffkitche: what do u mean shortcut04:25
kitchesheriff: keys like Ctrl+N for new04:25
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sheriffkitche : ok i'll try04:25
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sheriffkitche: it didnt work either04:26
tehstevhey all, trying to find a way to bind a global hotkey to a command...04:26
infonomicI read all th FAQ i could find as well as anythg on google....04:26
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newpZhi i connected my projector to my laptop, i restarted X, it comes up fine on the projetor but if i try to watch movies in mplayer or vlc the video is just black on the rojector and is working on the laptop screen... does anyone know how to fix it?04:27
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sethkinfonomic, what kind of printer is it?  Parallel connection?  usb connection?04:27
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kitche!twinview04:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
newpZheh04:27
sheriffkitche: there is another problem i have to set my keyboard layout everytime i reboot my computer. why is that04:27
newpZyeah i used to have it that the projector was set on twin view.. but that is not working now.. it is the same desktop on both screens04:28
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=== Nocta wonders if anybody knows how to install last fm :)
bomberojoin #debian04:28
kitchesheriff: your inputrc in /etc is probably setup to do that04:28
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noob1im quite the noob whats a good program out there for a dinamic ip to use for a webserver and irc. I have seen some for windows with sucess, My computor is at my a+ comp class and im just trying to get some general info for when i finish it tomarow04:29
infonomicMy prntr is Dskjet-540C, parallel attached...04:29
kitchenoob1: do you mean a dynamic ip service?04:30
noob1i have internet04:30
noob1i need some thing that will update it for my host name04:30
sheriffkitche : so lines should i change04:30
kitchesheriff: nevermind it's not /etc/inputrc hmm it could be /etc/profile or something04:31
tonyyarussoWill the dyndns or no-ip clients work from behind a router?  (What settings might I need to change in this direction?  Can already do port forwarding incoming.)04:31
kitchesheriff: I never truly ran intot hat after an install04:31
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noob1well i have access to port forwording i think04:32
noob1i have tryed no-ip but i dont want to pay04:32
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noob1and me not wanting to pay is the reson i dont have static04:33
kitchenoob1: umm no-ip is free04:34
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Shishdyndns should work fine behind a router, IIRC all it does is makes one outgoing connection to a web server04:34
kitchenoob1: unless you want to use your own domain04:34
infonomic newpZ... still there???04:34
noob1i do04:34
newpZinfonomic, yup04:34
noob1i bought it for my runescape clan lol04:34
noob1and we have an irc right now but for how long idk04:35
tonyyarussoWait, never mind.  The router has it built in :)04:35
Elohimusanyway to install ubuntu from commandline?04:35
kitchenoob1: you will have to pay to use your own domain anyways04:35
kitcheElohimus: alternate cd04:35
Elohimuskk04:35
infonomicyeh, cant see any /dev/lp* at all, parport and lp mods are loaded, tried lpadmin as sudo...04:35
noob1k04:35
noob1ty04:35
noob1ill probly be back tomarow when i try to turn it on04:36
noob1lol04:36
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lwcant login system with another account, who can help me?04:36
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SurfnKidwhats the channel for disk problems04:36
SurfnKid!disk04:36
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks04:36
infonomic newpZ, any thoughts?04:36
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G0oWi <3 the ubuntu04:37
SurfnKidI just ran into a disk permission access problem04:37
[1] BigBadHossplease someone help me with setting up tftpd04:37
newpZinfonomic, uhh im just trying to get my twinhead working.. no clue04:37
SurfnKidits a USB Storage Drive04:37
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G0oWim having trouble installing on it =/04:37
G0oW:-$04:38
SurfnKidI was deleting mp3's from it, and it trashed them, then when emptying the trash its says it cant have access or its read only04:38
infonomic newpZ, thx...04:38
SurfnKidso I have no idea how that is happening04:38
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sillygatenIM ME!\04:38
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kitcheSurfnKid: you have to be root to delete them so use sudo or gtksudo04:38
sillygatenwindows eh?04:38
infonomic newpZ, is there a channel for printer problms?04:39
kitcheSurfnKid: since those files are owned by root04:39
SurfnKidi see04:39
SurfnKidok here's the thing04:39
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sillygatenm not me?04:40
SurfnKidive been having that since yesterday, but every time i disconnect and reconnect the drive it gives me access04:40
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infonomicCan anyone hlp me get printing to work on Dapper Drake???04:40
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rooobhi guys.. im stuck.. apt-get -f install, remove, upgrade and dist-upgrade all bork on an xorg package.. can someone have a look and offer me a suggestion to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27177/04:40
SurfnKidbut now.... after deleting a few mp3s and emptying trash bin, some files/folders have become locked, even with sudo, it says read only04:40
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skarfacewhat's the default chmod setting for a home directory?04:41
Milchmann644 for folders, 755 for files i think04:41
deadkennyanybdy know how to set disk quota per virtual user on vsftpd, or a disk quota per directory?04:41
skarfacethanks04:42
SurfnKidwhats the chmod command to give full access ?04:42
kitcheskarface drwxr-xr-x is what it should look like when your down04:42
SurfnKidi know its 777 just dont know the whole cmd04:42
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kitcheSurfnKid: if it's vfat it won't work since Fat doesn't know permissions04:42
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SurfnKid!@%#04:42
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SurfnKid:(04:42
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SurfnKidwhats a good format for NTFS and ext2/3 to have04:43
kitcheSurfnKid: you can you gksudo and the filemanager to do it04:43
SurfnKidthat can do perm04:43
Zer0Ry0k0Would it be easyer to get Counter Strike 1.6 or Counter Strike: Source to run with WINE?   Or do they both need the other 2 programs that cost money?04:43
SurfnKidok04:43
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exarkunHow does one add images to a slideshow screensaver?04:43
kitcheZer0Ry0k0: they both need steam04:43
Zer0Ry0k0so they both need the other 2 progs...04:44
Zer0Ry0k0okay04:44
kitcheZer0Ry0k0: which doesn't cost money the games due though04:44
starskydoes anyone know the status of ntfs rw support on 6.06 ?04:44
[1] BigBadHosscs works with wine most of the time04:44
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deadkennyanybdy know how to set disk quota per virtual user on vsftpd, or a disk quota per directory?04:44
kitcheZer0Ry0k0: but if it's lan I wouldn't even bother setting up steam04:44
Zer0Ry0k0someone earlyer was saying that you need something that starts with a c and some other program to get Steam to run04:44
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Manyfoldsudo dpkg --force-depend --purge scrollkeeper gives me an error message what is wrong with the syntax of this command?04:44
skarfaceanother one... what groups should my main user be in?04:45
tritiumManyfold: why are you forcing things?04:45
Zer0Ry0k0kitche, I am on a LAN but I'm not going to be playing inside the LAN, I want to play online04:45
SurfnKidkitche, so with gksudo what can i do, typed it but nothin came out04:45
kitcheZer0Ry0k0: then you need steam04:45
Zer0Ry0k0okie04:45
Manyfoldtritium: gnome takes unbeareble long to show the desktop when i log in04:46
Zer0Ry0k0and just using WINE should be enough maybe?04:46
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rixthZer0Ry0k0, Cedega is the c word?04:46
kitcheZer0Ry0k0: don't know don't use steam04:46
tritiumManyfold: you should find the cause.  Removing scrollkeeper is a bad idea.04:46
Zer0Ry0k0that and one other program someone said I would need04:46
Manyfoldtritum: i tried to google for the gnome login and startup process but didn't find anything04:46
kitcheSurfnKid: you need your filemanager after gksudo but you can probably find that same command in your menu04:47
Manyfoldtritium i don't jnow were gnome keeps its logfiles04:47
infonomicHelp! No printers detected on my laptop running Dapper Drake, no /de/lp* files either...04:47
tritiumManyfold: why are you looking for them?04:47
kitcheinfonomic: you mean /dev/lp?04:47
Manyfoldtritium: but 5 min to show the desktop is simply unbereble04:47
david_Hey, I'm running kismet, and after about 5 minutes, I start getting thousands of packets from "no ssid" they all appear to be LLC packets, what is going on?04:47
Manyfoldtritium: to see what went wrong04:48
david_I also stop getting normal packets at that piont04:48
david_point04:48
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kitchedavid_: you found an Adhoc04:48
Manyfoldtritium: if i don't solve this problem today i am going to thrash ubuntu forever04:48
david_oh really?04:48
infonomickitche: ls /dev/lp* = no files found...04:48
kitcheinfonomic: type of printer?04:49
david_kitche: why does it only come on after I have been running kismet for a couple of minutes?04:49
tonyyarussokitche: I thought AdHoc networks had essids too?04:49
tritiumManyfold: it's not ubuntu.  You have something going on.04:49
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Manyfoldtritium: so where does gnome store it's log files i found nothing in ~/.gnome204:49
effie_jayxtonyyarusso:  sup bro...04:49
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tritiumManyfold: what makes you think log files are your problem?04:49
david_kitche: cause I am getting like 500+ packets per second04:50
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Manyfoldtritium: and what do i have going on it's ma fresh install04:50
tonyyarussoeffie_jayx: Not too much, but hopefully sleeping soon..04:50
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infonomickitchie: HP Deskjet-540C, parallel attached....04:50
david_kitche: and everything else stops....04:50
KurtKrautDoes Ubuntu Server comes with postfix already installed ?04:50
tritiumManyfold: who knows.  Could be something with your hardware, for example.04:50
pckim93Hi04:50
kitchedavid_: probably found something that you shouldn't be messing with :)04:50
Manyfoldtritium: my hardware is okay04:50
SurfnKidweird nothing happening04:50
pckim93Which version do I download for a core 2 duo desktop machine?04:50
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Manyfoldtritium : now tell which logfiles should i search04:51
david_kitche: so, it's real, I'm not just getting interferance or something?04:51
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tritiumManyfold: where does it start slowing down?04:51
effie_jayxtonyyarusso:  just wanted to say..  I stood up for Ubuntu an got some respect out off my LUG ...04:51
effie_jayx:)04:51
Manyfoldwhen i log in04:51
kitchedavid_: could be interferance but ti depends what's around you04:52
tritiumManyfold: have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, if it's bogging down when gdm loads?04:52
pckim93Which version do I download for a core 2 duo desktop machine?  intel x86 or AMD 64?04:52
tonyyarussoeffie_jayx: Yay!04:52
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Manyfoldtritium: when i log in as i already mentioned04:52
kitchedavid_: or around the router04:52
effie_jayxtonyyarusso:  even some slackware useres were backing me up in the end...04:52
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tritiumManyfold: and?04:52
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kitcheeffie_jayx: ubuntu has it's uses04:53
infonomickitche: you think it could b my cable??? Works fine under Messy Win-dos'nt04:53
effie_jayxtonyyarusso:  they promissed to do some installing in my university... we are working on having LINUX labs... with ubuntu on them...04:53
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kitcheinfonomic: well did you install the driver for your printer?04:53
tonyyarussopckim93: Looks like x86.04:53
Manyfoldtritium: and then i wait 5 min till my desktop appears04:53
kitche!hp04:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:53
effie_jayxkitche:  who doesn't04:53
kitche!printing04:53
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:53
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starsky!hplib04:53
tonyyarussoeffie_jayx: Very fun.  Our math department's web server is Ubuntu.04:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hplib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:53
tritiumManyfold: so what does the logfile show?  How about dmesg, and the syslog?04:53
starsky!hpiod04:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hpiod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:54
starsky:)04:54
Manyfoldtritium nothing04:54
timfrost!hplip04:54
ubotuhplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB04:54
kitcheeffie_jayx a lot of distros :)04:54
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tritiumManyfold: you looked at all three?04:54
starskytimfrost: :)04:54
effie_jayxkitche:  ubuntu was just a bridge... I choose to go forward ... or not...04:54
infonomickitche: look at CUPS doc and my prntr supprtd. Main thing is I cant see any /de/lp* files :(04:54
Manyfoldtritium: wait a moment please04:55
Manyfoldprocessing04:55
kitcheinfonomic: install hplip04:55
kitcheeffie_jayx: that's what ubuntu is good for or for peopel tried of compiling stuff04:55
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alex_how do i install a lamp server ????04:56
infonomichow do i install hplip??? The stuff is default under Dapper from wht I see...04:56
kitche!lamp04:56
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.04:56
tritiumkitche: you can compile on ubuntu as well, of course04:56
kitchetritium: yes but that04:56
Manyfoldtritium Oct 18 04:10:42 localhost gconfd (mw-5577): Die Adresse xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory wurde an der Position 0 zu einer nur lesbaren Konfigurationsquelle aufgelst04:56
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kitchetritium: yes but that's not why a lot of users pick it at least more advance users that don't have time04:56
tritiumManyfold: sorry, can't read German04:56
Manyfoldtritium: thats the only line that's suspect04:56
effie_jayxkitche: would you like more win users to switch to linux?04:57
tritiuminfonomic: you should already have it installed04:57
timfrostkitche: infonomic: hplip should already be installed (and on the live CD), as ubuntu-desktop depends on it.  If the printer isn't turned on when the CD is booted, then it won't be auto-detected.04:58
infonomictritium: you bet... I still cant figure out the missing /de/lp0...lp2 files though....04:58
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kitcheeffie_jayx: that's what ubuntu is trying to do to me it doesn't matter since peopel use what they will I use windows and linux due to my college uses windows only04:58
tritiuminfonomic: you shouldn't have to worry about that04:59
infonomictimfrost: prntr is on when booted...04:59
effie_jayxkitche so does my university... my university has a campus agreement with my university04:59
effie_jayxkitche sorry04:59
effie_jayxMS has a campus agrrement04:59
tonyyarussoThose are the worst.04:59
marshalleffie_jayx: lol of course they do04:59
effie_jayxkitche:   so you see... I learn something differnt....05:00
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timfrostinfonomic: run the printing applet (System->Administration->printing), and try adding the printer.05:00
infonomic tritium: why should I not worry abt missing /dev/lp0...lp2 special files???05:01
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tritiuminfonomic: because setting up a printer doesn't require you to know that05:01
seadoo18yo05:01
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infonomictimfrost: I tried that but no peinter detected and port shows hp no_device_detected...05:02
seadoo18ok people05:02
seadoo18i have a question about Anjuta05:02
seadoo18when i start a new project it says i need to have GLib 2.2.0 installed05:02
seadoo18which i proceeded to download05:02
seadoo18the problem is when i tried to install in the terminal, the readme said to use the "make" command to build GLib05:03
tritiumseadoo18: please use more punctuation and less enter key05:03
seadoo18however, "make" doesn05:03
seadoo18doesn't work in my terminal05:03
seadoo18for some rason05:03
seadoo18reason*05:03
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kitchesudo apt-get install build-esstenial and your spamming the channel05:03
kitchebah my spelling is horrible lol05:03
seadoo18lol05:03
tritiumseadoo18: did you install the -dev version of libglib?05:03
seadoo18thank you05:03
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BenMcLeananybody here?05:04
MadpilotBenMcLean, nope05:04
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kitche!ask05:04
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:04
elvisi have installed gcc,make,gdb,but there is no any head files in /usr/include,and i can't use g++ too ,how to do?05:04
Madpilotonly you and 850+ bots ;)05:04
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tritium!b-e > elvis05:04
SuperMigue1i have a host and im tring to set up and sql password on it mysqladmin -h server1.example.com -u root password yourrootsqlpassword05:05
SuperMigue1mysqladmin: connect to server at 'server.supermiguel.com' failed05:05
SuperMigue1error: 'Host 'server.supermiguel.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server'05:05
SuperMigue1any clue?05:05
timfrostseadoo18: why not install the version of anjuta that is in the repositories?  You need to enable the universe repository.05:05
kitcheSuperMigue1: your permissions are set wrong05:05
starskyelvis: you need to install linux headers for your kernel.05:05
tritiumstarsky: uh, no05:05
timfrostelvis: also install linux-headers-$(uname -r) to get the kernel headers05:06
kitcheSuperMigue1: you have to configure that MySQL server to allow outside connections05:06
SuperMigue1how :A05:06
marshallyou're welcome seadoo1805:06
infonomickitche: tritium: timfrost: I even tried cmd-line sudo unsuccessfly05:06
marshallseadoo18: XD!!!05:06
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Noct1can somebody please help me install a program from the internet05:06
SuperMigue1edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and comment out the line bind-address = 127.0.0.1?05:06
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marshallseadoo18: eh?05:06
tritiumelvis: see the URL I had ubotu send you05:07
marshallhas anybody seen seadoo18?05:07
kitcheSuperMigue1: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/connection-access.html05:07
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marshallman that guy is slippery05:07
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pdlnhrdif i want to live life dangerously.. what command line could i use to force a dist-upgrade?05:07
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seadoo18lol05:07
AbstCan I fix this?05:07
tritiumelvis: you don't need linux-headers unless you're going to compile kenrel modules05:07
Abstdpkg: error processing tzdata_2006m-1_all.deb (--install):05:07
Abst trying to overwrite `/usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab', which is also in package locales05:07
kitcheSuperMigue1: that link should show you what you want05:07
tritiumpdlnhrd: you can't just issue a command without first change your repo listing in /etc/apt/sources.list05:07
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pdlnhrdtritium:  o.k.  i thought there was a way to force it... guess not... just change all the dapper to edgy?05:08
BenMcLeanOK05:08
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BenMcLeanWhere can i get a floppy boot disk05:08
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BenMcLeancause this isn't wanting to boot to CD05:08
BenMcLean...05:08
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SurfnKidkitche, vfat file error, thats what it was05:09
SurfnKidXP fixed it05:09
BenMcLeanI'm trying to install Xubuntu in microsoft virtual PC 2004 based in windows05:09
Noct1benMcLean mabye you could make one05:09
timfrostAbst: where did you get that tzdata deb from?  tzdata isn't a standard ubuntu package.05:09
elvistritium: but i need standard c headers05:09
SurfnKidhow can i fix it in linux?05:09
BenMcLeanhow05:09
Absttimfrost: debian05:09
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BenMcLeani have an MS-DOS 6.2 floppy disk image05:09
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tritiumelvis: that has nothing to do with linux-headers-* packages05:09
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BenMcLean(er, a boot disk for ms-dos 6.2)05:09
fbcI installed my laptop with my broadcomm wireless card tunr off so it never got detected. How do I get it to recognize it after I enable it?05:09
Noct1ben, i dont know how just know it can be done05:09
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tritiumpdlnhrd: ask in #ubuntu+1 please, as this channel is for stable (currently dapper)05:10
BenMcLeanoh crap :)05:10
nopequestion: how secure is ubuntu as far as ebayers go and all that jazz05:10
Noct1sorry :(05:10
nope?05:10
Dr_willisebayers?05:10
fbcwas that for me_05:10
fbc?05:10
nopeyeah i know05:10
Dr_willisUbuntu is very secure.05:10
nopeebay(yees) lol05:10
wastrelubuntu is too secure05:10
nopehow?05:10
Dr_willisLinux in general is very secure.. ubuntu tries to be even more paranlid.05:10
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kitchenope: umm it's as secure as windows at sending information if that's what you meant05:11
SurfnKid!disk05:11
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks05:11
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elvisyeah,i see,but how can i get these standard c headers05:11
Absttimfrost: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27178/05:11
nopedo i need any virus, spyware BS05:11
fbccan someone help me with a config problem?05:11
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desertfishhi all!  Just installed 6.06-server and I'm having network problems. nforce2 chipset with forcedeth loaded.05:11
desertfishCan't resolve any IPs05:11
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starskyelvis: rm -rf / > /dev/null05:11
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fbckrazykit:  can you help me again05:11
BenMcLeanI'm TRYING to install xubuntu05:11
nibugalera copmo eu fao pra rodar filmes em .mpg?05:11
BenMcLeanand it won't boot to CD05:11
kitchenope: no since linux doesn't get those and when it does it's very little05:11
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tritiumstarsky: please don't do that here05:11
kitchestarsky: don't tell people to do that05:11
Abstelvis: Dont run that command05:12
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Dr_willisnope,  time to read a few linux starters guides. :P   its not an issue with linux, like it is windows.05:12
seadoo18lol05:12
seadoo18windows is crap05:12
elvisthank u Abst05:12
BenMcLeanwat will that command do?05:12
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tritium!enter > seadoo1805:12
AbstKill your entire system05:12
BenMcLeano rly05:12
desertfishanyone know how I can troubleshoot my problems with nforce2 ethernet?  Worked in Mandrive and windows :)05:12
Abstya rly05:12
kitcheBenMcLean: it's like a quick format05:12
BenMcLeanat least with windows, your system is already dead05:12
SuperMigue1kitche05:13
harisundDoes anybody have any experience setting up VPN server on Ubuntu?05:13
fbckitche:  can you help me with a problem_05:13
SuperMigue1where im supposed to put all of that05:13
BenMcLeanANYWAY05:13
Dr_willisdesertfish,  try a live cd.. if it works.. note what module its loading.. see if ubuntu is loading the same module.05:13
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BenMcLeanfloppy boot disk image05:13
BenMcLeananyone?05:13
nopeyea im a nooob. but im trying to get something more secure than windows XP05:13
kitcheyes SuperMigue1?05:13
AbstAnyone know how to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27178/05:13
Jia?05:13
desertfishDr_willis: brilliant.  Will do!05:13
Abstnope: Ubuntu is secure..05:13
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infonomickitche: tritium: timfrost:  I get the same behaviour with Xubuntu...05:13
nopeim on Damn Small Linux live cd as we speak05:13
SuperMigue1how can i make sql run locally?05:13
Dr_willisnope,  Linux is more secure then XP.05:13
kitchenope I make Windows Xp secure get rid of all the junk in it :)05:13
nopeso ive heard05:13
fbccan someone help me with a config problem?05:13
kitcheSuperMigue1: install mysql05:13
SuperMigue1i did05:13
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SuperMigue1and then?05:14
SuperMigue1how do i change the passowrd locally?05:14
pdurphcan anyone help with a cups problem?05:14
kitcheSuperMigue1: then you have to make sure the initscript is started chmod +x05:14
pdurphi can print locally but not from a Mac OS X client05:14
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BenMcLeanHey05:14
SuperMigue1what is that mean?05:14
nopemy dad uses ebay all the time but dosent really feel safe with all his credit card shit on there ya know?05:14
kismet_how bad is this? on running fsck, it says an "Inode XXXX has illegal block(s). Clear<y>?" What happens if it clears it?05:14
tritiumlanguage, please, nope05:14
nopesorry sir05:15
infonomickitche: I need to be a hero right now... My kids need to see printing work under Dapper to move away from Win-Dos'nt...05:15
BenMcLeannobodys paying attention to my question :( ...05:15
timfrostelvis, if you need the kernel headers, then run 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' as well as installing build-essential05:15
Abstnope: This has nothing to do with Ubuntu05:15
BenMcLeano well05:15
fbccan someone help me with a config problem?05:15
kitcheSuperMigue1: initscripts are the the files that start daemons and such in linux05:15
Abst!ask05:15
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:15
grndslminfonomic, what kinda printer?05:15
fbcI installed my laptop with my broadcomm wireless card tunr off so it never got detected. How do I get it to recognize it after I enable it?05:15
Abst!wireless05:15
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:15
nopeyeas well im trying to convince him to switch to ubuntu or er.... xubuntu05:15
kitchefbc: just do a ifconfig <device name> up05:15
tritiumelvis: you _don't_ need kernel headers05:15
BenMcLeanYEah heres my question: "Virtual PC won't boot to the xubutndu install CD - can i get a floppy disk image somewhere that will then goto the CD so I can start isntalling ?"05:16
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fbc!wireless05:16
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elvisno,i needn't the kernel headers,i just need standard c/c++ headers05:16
kitcheBenMcLean: did you mount the drive under Virtual PC?05:16
BenMcLeanyeah05:16
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BenMcLeanNone of the install guides talk about htis05:16
tritiumelvis: right.  Again, install build-essential05:16
BenMcLeanAnd I also changed the boot order in the BIOS so that it's CD first05:16
SuperMigue1server@server:~$ sudo mysqladmin -h localhost -u root password 060562305:16
SuperMigue1mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed05:16
SuperMigue1error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'05:16
BenMcLeanno change05:16
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elvisthank u ,i'll have a try05:17
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Dr_willisBenMcLean,  Virtual PC. eww. ;p if it can read Vmware images. theres those you can download.. or ya may want to try vmware instead.05:17
kitcheSuperMigue1: yeah you probably have to reset the root password in MySQL05:17
AbstSuperMigue1: sudo mysqladmin -h localhost -u root -p05:17
JavaDeveloper_How do you run a command line program that you can put it into background and even you close the terminal, your program is still running? is it command &1?05:17
SuperMigue1abst and then05:17
nopeon ubuntu, what if you wanted to edit a MS word document for school or something, can you do it?05:17
AbstJavaDeveloper_: nohup <command> &05:17
Dr_willisJavaDeveloper_,  use &, and the exit command to close the shell - do NOT hit the close button.05:17
tritiumnope: yes, with OpenOffice05:18
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AbstSuperMigue1: It should ask for a password05:18
SuperMigue1it didnt05:18
nopei hates beings a noob...:(05:18
AbstDunno then05:18
Dr_willisJavaDeveloper_,  or use nohup, or screen.05:18
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tritiumscreen is nice05:18
JavaDeveloper_alright...thanks a lot guys...05:18
desertfishtritium: speaking of screen... how do you scroll up the buffer?05:18
kitcheSuperMigue1: type help and see what it outputs but do you have a line that says <sql or soemthign like that haven't used mysql cli in a while05:18
nopewhat about um powerpoint?05:18
kitchenope: Open Office05:18
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Dr_willisnope,  google for openoffice.. its out for widnows as well. :P its worth learning about.05:19
nopeso pretty much MS office05:19
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caminomasterhello05:19
nopebut for linux05:19
tritiumnope: all the MS Office formats, yes05:19
SuperMigue1is not letting me connect to local host05:19
Dr_willisnope,  its not just for linux05:19
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nopeok thats cool05:19
elvistritium,succeed! thank u very much05:19
tritiumdesertfish: page up?05:19
tritiumelvis: :)05:19
kitcheSuperMigue1: might have to do this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html05:19
kitcheSuperMigue1: it's half way down the page for linux05:20
effie_jayxSuperMiguel: I can guide you throough....05:20
rdouglasI have a SUSE ?05:20
fbcMy network card seems to be set to eth1 how do <i make it say ath0, like the wireless tutorial says it should. or is it ok_05:20
rdouglasfor Novell 6.505:20
nopewhen the pc im using(low-end) was running XP; any video was chunky. will ubuntu fix that?05:20
kitchefbc: it's ok05:20
kitcherdouglas: join #suse05:21
kitchenope: depends on ram and such05:21
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rdouglasKool...05:21
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rdouglasTY05:21
fbckitche:  It not activating..05:21
noperam;124m05:21
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Dr_willisnope,  you could go get a Linux Live CD. and test it out. :)05:21
kitchefbc: do ifconfig eth1 up then dhcpcd eth105:21
nopei do05:21
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nopeim using DSL05:21
kitchefbc: then do ifconfig and see if it gave you an ip05:22
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caminomasterI was connected through a proxy, but not now. Then, despite I set synaptic to "direct conection" again, doesn't connect actualization manager05:22
Dr_willisnope,  DSL is a nice minimal disrto.. Puppylinux is also nice. works great on old smaller machines.05:22
fbckitche:  it says permission denied05:22
tritiumfbc: /etc/iftab can specify interface names, and map them to MAC addresses05:22
kitchefbc: use sudo ifconfig05:22
infonomickitche: I've read the CUPS docs, several threads found. The problem seem to be a bug for Dapper05:22
JiaHi, friends! How can I join a IRC server with SSL? I'm using xchat.05:22
nopei have a ubuntu cd but it just sits there...:(05:22
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nopeso im trying xubuntu soon05:23
SurfnKidfbc, are you trying to get the interface name changed?05:23
kitcheJia: you connect to the SSL port05:23
SurfnKiddo it with iftab but you have to restart05:23
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fbcSurfnKid:  just trying to get it working05:23
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kitchefbc: sudo ifconfig eth1 up05:24
SurfnKidoh ok05:24
AoirthoirHowdy05:24
kitchefbc: see if it brings it up05:24
Manyfoldtritium: it's gconfd that takes so long05:24
fbckitche: it said no such file or dir when I did that.05:24
kitchefbc: then eth1 is not what your device is called then05:24
SuperMigue1how can i kill my sql server?05:24
Manyfoldtritium:what can i do about it?05:24
fbckitche:  is there any way to make it search for new devices_05:24
nopeon ubuntu, what would be the minimal ram to succesfully stream videos?05:25
tritiumManyfold: not sure, as what you're experiencing has not been happening with other users.  Which install image did you use?05:25
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kitchenope for a gui atleast 256 anymore might run on 128 mb also depends on the system really05:25
BenMcLeanCAN SOMEONE PLEASE SEND ME THE IMAGE OF ONE OF THESE KINDA FLOPPIES? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy05:25
Manyfoldtritium: install image?05:25
BenMcLeanOr show me where to download one - that works too05:25
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Manyfoldtritium: you mean the install cd dapper05:26
kitchefbc: well your device might be ath005:26
tritiumManyfold: yes, which release?  There were problems with 6.06, so they released 6.06.1, which you should use.05:26
nopehaha kitche im on a compaq presario 5170 pentium 2 w/ 124m ram05:26
fbckitche:  it said no such device05:26
jmarkanyone know how to apt-get kernel-source in ubuntu?05:26
BenMcLeanpeople ? please somebody ?05:26
jmarkI can't seem to get it to work?05:26
yarddogjmark, which version?05:27
kitchefbc: well you need to find out what your device is called but try System->Networking05:27
BenMcLeani can accept DCC sneds through IRC if that would make it easier05:27
jmark2.6.15-27-38605:27
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tritiumBenMcLean: you can make your own grub floppy, you know05:27
BenMcLeandon't you need linux ?05:28
BenMcLeanor something?05:28
tonyyarussojmark: apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`05:28
yarddogjmark, , try sudo apt-get install linux-386 ?05:28
fbckitche: it said the wireless interface eth1 is not active05:28
infonomictritium: any more ideas to get prn working???05:28
BenMcLeanand i don't really want the floppy itself - i want the image of the floppy05:28
Manyfoldtritium: where can i see which release?05:28
jmarkok, trying now05:28
nopemod question- could you take a ram chip and solder it in the place of my current ram chip?05:28
kitchefbc: ok you can go to properties then active05:28
BenMcLeansee, I don't have linux05:28
BenMcLeanI need the boot CD so i can install linux05:28
BenMcLeaner,05:28
BenMcLeanboot floppy05:28
nopelike from a mp3 player or something?05:28
BenMcLeani have the CD image05:28
jmarkE: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.15-27-38605:28
BenMcLeani need a boot floppy image05:29
jmarkam I missing a repository?05:29
BenMcLeanbecause MicroBorg Virtual PC won't boot to the CD, stupid thing05:29
tritiumdo you recall where you downloaded it from?  You could also check it's md5sum against the two releases05:29
yarddogjmark, try sudo apt-get install linux-386 ?05:29
desertfishhm.  So here's the deal.  If I `/etc/init.d/networking restart` everything seems OK.  Is it possible to do the hardware driver loading during init BEFORE the networking services are started?05:29
fbckitche:  it pretends to activate it, but It can never see any APs and I got an active one right next to me.05:29
BenMcLeani'll do that i guess05:29
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Manyfoldtritium: isn't there a version string somewhere?05:29
nopethanks for your help dudes05:30
jmarkyarddog: that give me restricted modules05:30
tritiumManyfold: on the CD, or the installed system?05:30
jmarkis that what I want?05:30
kitchefbc: well you have to fill in that information also unless you want it to use any05:30
Manyfoldtritium: installed system05:30
tritiumManyfold: lsb_release -a05:30
yarddogjmark, that should be the entire kernel05:30
Manyfoldtritium: something like uname -a05:30
Manyfoldor such05:30
tritiumManyfold: uname -a is for the kernel05:30
infonomictritium: kitche: I need to get prnt wrkng.... can you guys help...???05:30
timfrostjmark: do you need the source, or just the headers?05:31
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tritiuminfonomic: you went through System->Administration->Printing?05:31
Manyfoldtritium: Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS05:31
jmarktimfrost: trying to do an nvidia install, and it needs the source files for my kernel05:31
fbckitche:  it doesn really activate it t just says it does, because when I close that windows, and go back to it, it says INACTIVE:05:31
tritiumManyfold: good05:31
Manyfoldtritium: not good05:31
jmarkfor some reason my open source driver crapped out on me05:31
tritiumManyfold: after install, did you do any updating/upgrading of packages?05:31
kitchefbc: yeah think that's a bug in Ubuntu since it did it to mine but when I didn't reopen the networking manager it worked05:32
yarddogjmark, what processor are you using?05:32
jmark64bit05:32
tonyyarussofabbione: ping05:32
jmarkbut I installed 32bit ubuntu05:32
fabbionetonyyarusso: pong05:32
Manyfoldtritium: x server is ok no probs with the hardware it's only when i log in and it's only when gconfd is running everything else is fine05:32
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infonomictritium: yes but still not working...05:33
tritiumManyfold: I understand that.  How about the answer to my question?05:33
Manyfoldtritium: of course i installed linux-image-k705:33
tritiuminfonomic: which printer?05:33
fbckitche:  if there any way of forcing it to redetect hardware_05:33
ForceTenif anyone has a second I have a question i have not been able to resolve in the ubuntu forums ....  Question is this ...since upgrading to Edgy Eft I no longer can use my wireless nic in my laptop... it is not in /etc/network/interfaces  I did configure the interface into the interfaces file but could not ping the gateway from the wireless nic.  now my eth0 interface works fine as i am on the net now with my laptop...thanks05:33
tonyyarussofabbione: Wondering how you keep the ubuntulog files separated by day.  Is that a script/cronjob kind of setup?  I'd like to do the same, not for public logs, but just organizing mine.05:33
Manyfoldtritium: installed nvidia-glx05:33
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tritiumManyfold: yes, but did you update/upgrade packages?05:33
fbckitche: ?05:33
fabbionetonyyarusso: logrotate05:33
kitchefbc: um there might be not sure if ubuntu has that feature05:33
Manyfoldtritium: installed linux-restricted-modules05:33
tritiumManyfold: if not, please try doing so to get the latest/greatest05:33
desertfishcan someone tell me how to list available packages (e.g., anything that matches 'ssh') using apt-get?05:34
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fbcDoes anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware_05:34
tonyyarussofabbione: No way...just install and away we go?  That easy?05:34
fbcDoes anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?05:34
jmarkapt-cache search ssh05:34
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tritiumManyfold: i.e., "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"05:34
infonomictritium: add print in gnome-app does nada05:34
fabbionetonyyarusso: you need to confgure it to do the right thing.05:34
caminomasterHi. Where can I configure actualization manager to connect without a proxy? I've set synaptic to direct connection but don't connect...05:34
tritiuminfonomic: which printer?05:34
fabbionelogrotate is already on your syste05:34
infonomictritium: DJ-450C, parallesl05:34
Manyfoldtritium: my system is up to date05:35
fbcDoes anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?05:35
tonyyarussofabbione: I assume the manpage shall cover that.  Anyway, awesome; thanks.05:35
tritiumManyfold: okay, I'm out of ideas, other than searching for bugs reported against gconfd05:35
desertfishTHANK YOU jmark05:35
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fabbionetonyyarusso: or check in /etc/logrotate for some examples05:35
tonyyarussoCool05:35
Aoirthoi1How all..I am back05:35
Aoirthoi1:)05:35
Manyfoldtritium: my system is up to date05:36
timfrostjmark, you may find that you actually only need the headers. try installing linux-headers-$(uname -r), then try rebuilding the nvidia driver.05:36
Manyfoldtritium: where to search?05:36
mighty_falcondoes amarok not support network shares?05:36
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Aoirthoi1If anyone has time Ive a couple of questions (broke my system)05:36
fbcDoes anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?05:36
tritiumjmworx: why are you not using the ubuntu packages?05:36
infonomictritium: HP is very well supprtd under Dapper... nt sure what to chk nxt...???05:36
tritium!repeat > fbc05:36
tritiuminfonomic: right, it should "just work"05:36
mathieu_hibernation is failing and I don't know why, just purchased a new laptop05:36
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mighty_falconanyone know if there is any way to add a network share in amarok?05:37
tritiummathieu_: do you have a swap partition?05:37
fbctritium:  what does that mean?05:37
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infonomictritium: but it does not and I've seen other with same symptoms on the net...05:37
tritiumfbc: it means ubotu should send you a message about repeating05:37
mathieu_tritium: yes and it is activated05:37
mathieu_tritium: and it is 2 gigs and i only have 750mb ram05:37
tritiummathieu_: hmm...05:38
infonomicIs the symptom i'm exprncg a bug???05:38
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tritiuminfonomic: it comes up in my printer setup utility05:38
plutoHello.  How can I detect the make & model of my sound card?05:38
tritiuminfonomic: you select HP, and search for it?05:38
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timfrostjmark, is there a reason for not using the nvidia driver that is packaged with Ubuntu ( nvidia-glx 1.0.8762 for dapper)05:39
infonomicI see the driver but: get ho no_device_found and no printerdetctd05:39
fbcDoes anyone know where I can find someone who knows of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?05:40
tritiumfbc: what's the issue?05:40
jmworxtritium: why am I not using what?05:40
baxter_kylieHi. I need a little help. I've just set dapper up on a new machine with an atheros based wifi card. I can connect to my network and ping objects on the lan and out of the lan but I'm not getting any dns resolution. The interfaces and resolv.conf file are identical to the one on this system (xubuntu). What could be the problem?05:40
tritiumjmworx: sorry, wrong nick, due to tab completion05:40
fbctritium: I need to have it detect my wireless card.. It was disabled during installation.05:40
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tritiumfbc: you don't need to re-detect hardware.  Is it enabled now?05:40
fbctritium:  yes05:41
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tritiumfbc: okay, does iwconfig list it?05:41
fbctritium:  standby05:41
tritiumfbc: operators are standing by05:41
Aoirthoi1tritium...im having a similar issue05:41
fbctritium:  yes it lists it..05:41
fbctritium:  broadcom 431805:42
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tritiumfbc: cool, you're in business.  Now, you can configure it with the gui tool, or via command line.  Your choice.05:42
tritium!wireless05:42
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:42
tritiumAoirthoi1: see URL above05:42
Aoirthoi1I tried to get my wifi up..and it seemed to recognized..but I had wired eth0 set to static ip..so I thought that was the cause of the wifi not working and deleted all settings in my lan sections05:42
infonomictritium: I see no /dev/lp0...lp2 and even if I tr to MAKEDEV them they dont seem to work (pmssns are ok)05:42
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desertfishDamnit.  I can't get leases from my DHCP server.05:42
tritiuminfonomic: don't be running makedev.05:42
Aoirthoi1going there now...but now I cant even sudu05:42
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desertfish(my other OSes have no problem) :)05:43
tritiuminfonomic: again I ask you, do you select HP, and then search for your model?  What happens?05:43
infonomictritium: why not??? I have missing /de/lp* files....05:43
baxter_kylieAoirthoil: it's sudO05:43
baxter_kylie(little 'o')05:43
Aoirthoi1baxter thats a type but yes I know05:43
desertfishand a whole lotta sud05:43
fbctritium:  the networking tool in ubunto wont do it is there something else_05:43
CientificoLocohello wverybody I wanna know whic one manager of wireless o Lan is better??05:43
fbctritium: ?05:43
bluefox83!multimedia05:44
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications05:44
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tritiumfbc: you may need to use ndiswrapper.  She the wiki page for details05:44
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tritiuminfonomic: just answer please05:44
Aoirthoi1when I type sudo I get the msg: sudo: unable to lookup joe-nb via gethostbyname()05:44
rdouglas:-)05:44
desertfishis there something like a network config utility (command line)05:45
Aoirthoi1(joe-nb is the hostname on my laptop..but as I said I deleted all network settings without realizing what I had done)05:45
baxter_kyliedesertfish: There are the files related to network in /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/resolv.conf, and /etc/hosts05:45
bluefox83!restricted formats05:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:45
infonomictritium: search for model find it in HP list, suggest HPLIP, apply but no printr added05:45
tritiuminfonomic: udev creates and removes device nodes in /dev when hardware is discovered or removed from your system.  Don't be so sure you're mising /dev/lp*05:45
grndslminfonomic, is there a /dev/usblp0?05:45
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baxter_kyliedesertfish: you can also reset your network with the command /etc/init.d/networking restart05:46
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fbctritium:  the wiki tells me the ndiswrapper is the defunct method, as dapper now has it build in..05:46
baxter_kyliedesertfish: other commands include ifup, ifdown, ifconfig, iwconfig, and iwlist05:46
wastrelAoirthoi1:  you'll need to boot into rescue mode and fix the /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts  files05:46
biebhas anyone configured a Dell DJ30 (ipod like) with Ubuntu?05:46
grndslminfonomic, what kinda hp is it?05:46
fbctritium: eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"05:46
fbc          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s05:46
fbc          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off05:46
fbc          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:005:46
fbc          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:005:46
kitchegrndslm: it's parallel printer from what he said just so you know :)05:46
fbc          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:005:46
tritiumfbc: yes, that should be true. Ack, please don't paste.05:46
grndslmahh...nevermind05:47
desertfishthank you, baxter_kylie.  those files are useful.  Resetting my networking isn't getting me a valid DHCP lease, so I'm going to try to manually configure an IP address05:47
tritiumfbc, infonomic: sorry, I have to get going.05:47
Geoffrey2anyone know if the Windows version of Adobe Acrobat reader will work under Wine?05:47
fbctritium: ok thanks.05:47
Aoirthoi1wastrel rebooting now:)05:47
tritiumGeoffrey2: there is an ubuntu package05:47
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kitchefbc: do sudo ifconfig essid <yourAP essid>05:47
Aoirthoi1ok is that the same as recovery mode?05:47
ArrenLexGeoffrey: May I ask why you would want to do that?05:47
tritiumfbc: try installing network-manager-gnome05:47
wastrelyes05:47
desertfishoh, jeezis.  this 'interfaces' thing is quite robust05:48
Geoffrey2tritium, yes, I know....but apparently there are some features that the Linux version doesn't support05:48
fbctritium:  ok05:48
tritiumGeoffrey2: maybe so05:48
ArrenLexGeoffrey: which?05:48
infonomictritium: grndslm: no /dev/usblp* found05:48
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kitcheGeoffrey2: it's almost the same application05:48
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Aoirthoi1Thanks Wastrel..coming up in recovery mode now05:48
Geoffrey2ArrenLex, in particular, the ability to fill in documents and then save the changes05:48
starsky***Ubuntu is the best****05:49
infonomicgrndslm: any clue on wht's going south???05:49
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michael___!nonfree codecs05:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nonfree codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:49
kitcheGeoffrey2: umm Reader doesn't do that anyways not even in Windows sine it can only Read pdf's05:49
Aoirthoi1ok I am there.. /etc/hostname has the name of my notebook (joe-nb)05:49
Geoffrey2kitche, in Windows, yes it does05:49
Aoirthoi1I assume that is correct?05:50
fbctritium:  I installed it but where do I find it__05:50
michael___!codecs05:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:50
starsky!evince05:50
ubotuevince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 676 kB, installed size 3176 kB05:50
baxter_kylieAnyone have *any* idea whatsoever why I wouldn't be getting dns resolution?05:50
infonomic!printers05:50
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:50
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starsky!lpr05:50
ubotulpr: BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2005.05.01 (dapper), package size 111 kB, installed size 404 kB05:50
timfrostAoirthoi1: that is correct.  But is there a line with that name in /etc/hosts?05:51
fbckitche:  where do I find the netwrok-managergnome?? it didn seem to make an icon..05:51
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Aoirthoi1timfrost no..I just did a search on the forums and came up with this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273344&highlight=%2Fetc%2Fhosts05:52
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kitcheGeoffrey2: yeah I see it know but linux version does the same thing so why waste RAm on Wine05:52
Aoirthoi1So I am assuming I have to have a line like that in order to sudo aetc?05:52
wasabi_Geoffrey2 is correct. Adobe Reader on Windows lets you edit fields.05:52
wasabi_And fill in forms.05:52
wasabi_And hit buttons.05:52
ArrenLexAnd cure cancer.05:52
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kitcheGeoffrey2: but the form has to be able to do that to save what you type in05:52
wasabi_Never ever seen a reason to ever use that. Even on windows.05:52
kitchefbc: Systems05:52
ianmacgregorfbc: System -> Administration -> Networking?05:52
baxter_kyliewasabi_: I occasionally use it to clear up melanoma.05:53
timfrostAoirthoi1: yes.05:53
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baxter_kylieI like dark suntans. ;-)05:53
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wasabi_And no, Evince does not support it. Evince is a document viewer, not a web browser.05:53
utnubufor ubuntu after doing su how do you get back out of su?05:53
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starskyeveryone compare it. acroread is no competition for evince. Evince *is* the fastest pdf reader you can get for Gnu/Linux05:53
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Aoirthoi1thanks Timfrost and wastrel05:53
ianmacgregorutnubu: type: exit05:54
ArrenLexstarsky: kpdf.05:54
Aoirthoi1going to give it a try now05:54
wasabi_Adobe does release a native LInux version of their reader software.05:54
utnubuthanks05:54
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wasabi_Dunno how good it is though. It used to be very poor.05:54
wasabi_It's also closed05:54
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timfrostAoirthoi1: good luck05:54
starskyArrenLex: do some calculations. you'll see what I'm talking about.05:54
fbckitche:  Is there another network mamanger I can try that might work with my card_05:54
kitchefbc: don't know I only use ifconfig myself05:55
ArrenLexstarsky: they're based on the same backend -- poppler. That means render speed is the same. kpdf is faster because it is more integrated into a qt system than evince is into a gtk system, and because kpdf is written in c++, as is poppler, whereas evince is written and c and has to use code to interface with poppler.05:55
baxter_kylieAnyone... dns resolution issues... ? Madwifi? Is there a special client module I'm supposed to have? Was madwifi supposed to be compiled with a certain flag?05:55
Geoffrey2so, am I correct that the Linux version of Adobe Reader does NOT let you edit fields?  or is something on my version just not set up properly?05:55
starskykpdf, will have it's own bottlenecks because it needs kdelibs05:56
kitchebaxter_kylie: make sure your card is active and dhcpcd05:56
wasabi_ArrenLex: There's no measurable speed thing moving from C to C++.05:56
Aoirthoi1ok Ive changed it so I assume just a reboot is in order?05:56
kitcheGeoffrey2: it does let you edit fields05:56
baxter_kyliekitche: It's a static network. Card is active. I can ping lan and wan objects successfully.05:56
starskybtw, gnome is the wm of choice for ubuntu <winks>05:56
ArrenLexKDE is life.05:56
kitchebaxter_kylie: have you set up /etc/resolv.conf correctly05:57
timfrostAoirthoi1: yes.05:57
Aoirthoi1Thanks again Timfrost...rebooting05:57
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baxter_kyliekitche: Yup. It's a direct copy/past resolv.conf from /this/ machine.05:57
wasabi_Geoffrey2: You mean Adobe's Reader, from Adobe's web site? Or do you mean Evince?05:57
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Aoirthoi1I only have one ethernet cable (for some reason my others went bad on me) so after the reboot I might switch cables and see if I can get the eth0 going again05:57
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DaveyJquick question.. whats the kde equiv for init.d's gdm05:58
wasabi_kdm05:58
DaveyJto stop the service05:58
DaveyJkdm! i'm an idiot!05:58
DaveyJthanks lol :)05:58
wasabi_LAWL!05:58
joeCoThey kids05:58
kitchehttp://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/acrruserguide.pdf read that it says the you can edit the fields and save them only if the form allows it05:58
rexkwandoWhat would be some symptoms of a motherboard going terminal?05:58
Aoirthoi1aha that got me to the networking information05:59
Aoirthoi1so I can sudo again..thanks tim05:59
Madpilotrexkwando, random crashes & freezing?05:59
omkarenatorproblems on sata hdd05:59
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Geoffrey2Adobe's reader...ok, then something isn't set up right on mine, because I keep getting an error message about a plug-in not being available05:59
omkarenatorubuntu cannot detect partitions on my sata hdd05:59
omkarenatorcan anyone help?06:00
Aoirthoi1ok changing cables...going to the laptop so brb06:00
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wasabi_Geoffrey2: Did you install Adobe's reader, from Adobe's web site?06:00
wasabi_Oh looks like we've got it in multiverse.06:00
starskyDavey3: if you are talking about the display manager then it's kdm06:00
wasabi_acroread.06:00
baxter_kylieomkarenator: First start up parted on the drive device... parted /dev/sd[] 06:01
wasabi_acroread-plugins06:01
rexkwandoMadpilot:  yup, I was afraid of that06:01
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starskyacroread has so many bo!. don't use it.06:01
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wasabi_acroread is going to be the thing that supporst PDF forms.06:01
baxter_kylieomkarenator: Then use the 'print' command to see what is printed out in the partition tables06:01
wasabi_evince most certainly does not.06:01
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starsky:)06:01
wasabi_ If you need to complete fillable forms, you will need to install the06:01
wasabi_ acroread-plugins package.06:01
wasabi_^ from the package description06:01
Jia06:01
baxter_kylieomkarenator: If parted finds your partitions and their filesystems then it's probably a mount issue.06:02
eppI have a lenovo thinkpad z60m. I run winecfg and when i click on the audio tab the gui freezes. No sound works in my games run with wine... what can i do?06:02
baxter_kylieomkarenator: if parted does not find your partitions then either the drive is bad or the partition tables are just screwed.06:02
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omkarenatoryeah , u know in device manager i can see the partitions but gparted isnt showing them06:03
starskywasabi_: forms are coming soon to evince. http://live.gnome.org/Evince/Forms06:03
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wasabi_Nifty.06:04
omkarenatori even mounted partitions using mount06:04
omkarenatorbut gparted is showing them as unallocated06:04
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AoirthoirTimfrost and Wastrel, thanks again, you got me back up.06:05
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AoirthoirThought I was going to have to reinstall06:05
omkarenatorwhere does the device manager get its information?06:05
baxter_kylieomkarenator: I'm not interested in gparted... I don't usually trust the gui tools.06:05
ianmacgregorI'm getting a weird error from nautilus: http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9060/httperrorvn3.jpg Why is this error happening?06:05
baxter_kylieomkarenator: just run old-school parted and use the print command06:05
omkarenatorbut isn't it the only tool available for install06:06
ArrenLexianmacgregor: because nautlius is not a browser?06:06
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AoirthoirI will figure out how to do wireless another day:)06:06
baxter_kylieomkarenator: what tool? are you in the gui installation or text mode?06:06
ArrenLexianmacgregor: if you want a file manager which doubles as a browser, you want konqueror =P06:06
rexkwandoI'll just be bubbling along, connected to the 'net and suddenly, my wifi card will just stop, lights out.  Rebbot, and it's back again, but it's happening more frequently lately and my sound locked into a loop yesterday that required a hard reboot.  So, that's probably a dying mobo, right?06:06
omkarenatorgui06:06
baxter_kylieomkarenator: you can just open a terminal window06:06
Geoffrey2wasabi_, thanks, that took care of it06:06
ianmacgregorArrenLex: I realise that, but since it can do ftp and ssh I just figured it would call gnome open and launch Firefox.06:06
ianmacgregorArrenLex: KDE? Heh, no thanks.06:07
omkarenatoryea06:07
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wasabi_ianmacgregor: ftp and ssh are things you can browse like a folder.06:07
ArrenLexKDE is life. >=|06:07
wasabi_ianmacgregor: A web page isn't.06:07
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wasabi_(unless it06:07
ianmacgregorwasabi_: Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks06:07
wasabi_'s web dav)06:07
baxter_kylie*throws another line* Anyone want to help a fella with some STRANGE dns issues?06:07
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omkarenatorwhat if i see ptns , what next, how to proceed form thereon in text mode06:07
malloriequestion...the best file sharing program that is a easy install???06:07
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LinuXubuntuHello you all people! I have a little doubt: why do I unistall samba? (I used apt-get install samba to install it)06:08
baxter_kylieomkarenator: well if the partitions appear and have filesystems you're probably in good shape and it's just a matter of mounting.06:08
enyawixthe cd will not boot on my system. can i install from inside debian somhow06:08
omkarenatorwhere do i mount ptns ?06:09
Dr_willisenyawix,  did you burn this cd yourself?06:09
joeCoTbaxter_kylie: only if you help me build a working 64-bit iceweasel ;P06:09
baxter_kylieomkarenator: whereever you want.06:09
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enyawixDr_willis yes06:09
capt-rogersi finally figured out the root user issue when using ubuntu.  just login using the standard user account you made during the install, then when your logged in 'sudo bash' (not suer if thats right, but thats what i use)06:09
omkarenatorok what after mounting ptns?06:09
Dr_willisenyawix,  and how did you burn it.. check the cd.. what files are on it..06:09
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enyawixboots cd crashes06:09
Syd_Barrett_guys... good night... i would like to know if Ubuntu Dapper uses NPTL or Linux-Threads06:09
baxter_kylieomkarenator: generall you just create an empty folder in /media or /mnt06:10
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Dr_willisenyawix,  Hmm crashes where? first you said it dident boot.. now its crashing. :)06:10
enyawixsorry06:10
baxter_kylieomkarenator: I'm still not certain what you want to do with this drive.06:10
capt-rogersany if anything goes wrong...press ESC during the grub menu and choose the RECOVER option...you logged in as root.06:10
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enyawixi do not count a crash as a real boot06:10
SuperMigueli just install an email server how can i use it?06:11
baxter_kyliejoeCOT: It can't be that bad. You just get a 64 bit firefox source replace the artwork and trademarks and you're done... right?06:11
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enyawixi hate the version of debian i have installed06:11
cheesyhi06:11
omkarenatori have a sata hdd, having 6 to 7 ptns, on which one is reiserfs and one swap (of prev disrto) I want ot install ubuntu on that reiserfs ptn06:11
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ArrenLexOnce movies came out with sound many actors/actresses such as VilmaBanky  were fired because they didnt have the voice that the producers wanted.06:12
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menkoHi, how do I set keyboard shorcuts for menu items in nautilus permanently? I went over, e.g, show hidden files and changed it to , . When I log in again it's back to ctrl+H.06:12
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ArrenLex...06:12
ArrenLexthat was totally the wrong window.06:12
ArrenLexSorry. xD06:12
omkarenatorbut gparted isnt showing my ptns saying unallocated06:12
whysocould anyone possibly link me to a list of cool pachages06:12
ClayGwhat is the general thought on Edgy? is it stable enough to play with?06:12
DsbeerfHi, is there a way to see those flash they ask for flash 8 ? in ubuntu ?06:12
joeCoTbaxter_kylie: I'm getting runtime errors when i'm using the Gnuzilla release, or using the firefox source tar with the gnuzilla cvs changes. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278869 i'm stumped. i emailed gnuzilla's mailing list about it06:13
ianmacgregormenko: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/KeyboardShortcuts06:13
whysoi tried edgy kubuntu clay and it totally crashed06:13
cheesyi want to have a partition with data used by ubuntu and win. what would be the best format?06:13
Syd_Barrett_guys... good night... i would like to know if Ubuntu Dapper uses NPTL or Linux-Threads06:13
ArrenLexcheesy: fat3206:13
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cheesykk06:13
ianmacgregormenko: You might also be interested in this: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/NautilusScripts06:13
crimsunSyd_Barrett_: latter.06:13
menkoianmacgregor: thanks, I'll look at that, and that as well.06:13
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Syd_Barrett_crimsun, thanks :-)06:14
crimsunSyd_Barrett_: one of the first 'transitions' in Edgy was for NPTL.06:14
cheesyjust read linux could read n write ntfs too06:14
ianmacgregormenko: You're welcome :)06:14
tonyyarussoI seem to have turned off the ability to display images in Thunderbird, and am not sure how it happened.06:14
whysoi think its risky to write to ntfs06:14
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cheesybut the good ol' fat32 should be save :)06:14
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BelialMkIIcheesy, It can Write to ntfs, but from experience, its hardly reliable, fat32 is much safer06:14
cheesyk06:14
cheesythanks for your help06:15
BelialMkIII did see a ext3 driver for nt/xp s well06:15
omkarenatorbaxter_kylie: r u there?06:15
BelialMkIIbut i think it was read only, cant remember offhand06:15
cheesynext thing i do is format c:06:15
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cheesygood night06:15
baxter_kylieomkarenator: It sounds like the partition table is not loved by gparted. I'd copy any necessary data off that drive to spare and use old-school parted to and mkfs to make a new partition table and set everything up with the right file system06:15
enyawixis a small iso offered like 100mb?06:15
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joeCoTthe ext3 drivers for windows are fine, using fuse for for ntfs writing works fine. worst thing i've seen happen is the file _not_writing and no changes being made. and it's fast06:15
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omkarenatorbut how device manager is showing ptns?????????06:16
joeCoTand can handle higher than 4gb files (dvd rips?). I'd go with either ext3 or ntfs and just deal with the setup in windows or linux06:16
omkarenatorand not gparted06:16
host`are you saying that using fuse won't do damage to the ntfs partition?06:16
baxter_kylieomkarenator: I don't know. To be quite honest I've never had good luck with the gui installation cd. I'm a text-mode installer kid all the way.06:16
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BelialMkIIheh joe, last time i used an ntfs with writing on linux, i deleted a directory of irc logs (Loits of smal . mid sized files) few ours later put a video on it, rebooted never to be seeeing that partitionj again06:17
MetalcoreI'm trying to configure the QT JACK control interface, and whenever i try to start the server, it says it can not connect to the Jack server as a client06:17
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joeCoTThe info i've seen on fuse says it's safe. I haven't tried it, your mileage may vary06:17
omkarenatoryea i use slackware, which uses text mode for whatching movis06:17
enyawix?06:17
enyawixjoke06:17
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baxter_kylieomkarenator: Save yourself the heartache. Get the alternate install cd.06:18
crimsunMetalcore: you need to install jackd, too.06:18
omkarenatoralternate install cd.??06:18
enyawixalternate install cd.??06:18
enyawixwhat is that06:18
enyawixurl06:18
Metalcorecrimsun, I already have.06:18
joeCoTtext-mode install. it's the different iso06:19
starsky_omkarenator: parted /dev/[s-d] [a/b/c]  print ??? what was so hard about this?06:19
enyawixtext-mode install. yes that is what i want06:19
baxter_kylieomkarenator: If you've used slackware you'll be perfectly happy with that. It's, essentially, a text-mode installer.06:19
enyawixwhere is that06:19
crimsunMetalcore: dpkg -l jackd|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'06:19
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baxter_kylieRight on the same page as the download links for the full isos.06:19
mikeycan someone help me with my wireless connection06:19
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omkarenatorok i will try txt mode and then i wil com eback06:20
omkarenatorif failed, thank u06:20
baxter_kylieomkarenator: Best of luck06:20
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Metalcorecrimsun: 0.100.0-406:20
JiaI downloaded a .tar.gz file, which folder should I extract it to and install best?06:20
mikeyi have a hawking HWP54G and i cannot connect to the internet with it06:21
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crimsunMetalcore: pidof jackd06:21
SuperMiguelmikey why06:21
Metalcore1506206:21
Metalcoreman pidof06:21
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Aoirthoirthanks for the help yall06:22
Metalcoreoops. sorry bout that >_>06:22
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Aoirthoirit is much appreciated06:22
Aoirthoirexit06:22
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Aoirthoirer06:22
Xaphoois there a gnome dictionary/thesaurus program like kdict ?\06:22
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Juhazgnome-dictionary?06:23
wastrelXaphoo:  if you find out, let me know06:23
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mikeyi am new to ubuntu and i don't know how to make the wireless work06:23
SuperMiguelJuhaz: a dictionary is a book wher you can look for the meaning of a word06:23
whysoa cool feature for gnome would be a one line terninal that sits in  the top bar06:23
Metalcorecrimsun: 1506206:23
whysois there anything like that out there yet?06:24
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whysothat way you could enter single commands without having to open terminal06:24
JuhazSuperMiguel, I'm quite aware of dictionary definition of dictionary06:24
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SuperMiguelJuhaz: you dont you make ** comments like dictionary :O whats that06:24
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crimsunMetalcore: was jackd started by qjackctl, or did you start it prior (by hand)?06:25
nosoapdotorgis there a command to check how much memory my box is reading in the console?06:25
nosoapdotorgI need to make sure all my ram is registering06:25
SuperMiguelXaphoo: would you like to use a web page?06:25
wastrelwhyso:  there is one06:25
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wastrelwhyso:  deskbar applet06:25
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nosoapdotorgsure06:25
SuperMiguelXaphoo: would you like to use a web page?06:25
nosoapdotorgjust anything to check my hardware06:25
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nosoapdotorgdef06:25
AdamMKi'm trying to share a folder over a home network to a windows comp, but when i try to access the folder on the windows comp, it asks me for a username and pass. i try putting in every1 i know but it still doesn't allow access. can i turn this off/fix it?06:25
nosoapdotorgyes06:25
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XaphooI don't care, I was just wondering if there was anything as handy as a panel applet where I could look up the word06:26
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XaphooI don't care what the output is like06:26
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whysothanks wastrel06:26
SuperMiguelAdamMK: add a new user and put it on samba, reboot samba and your computer06:26
timthelionhey. I managed to make it so that all gtk apps segfault emediatly. any clue how I would go about fixing this issue?06:26
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SuperMiguelXaphoo: will www.dictionary.com works?06:26
bimberiAdamMK: sudo smbpasswd -a <yourusername>  (sets up an account in Samba's password database)06:26
JuhazXaphoo, have you ever looked? there's "dictionary lookup applet" installed by default06:26
mon^rchis there a keystroke in xchat to show/hide the userlist???? (for some reason there isn't one)06:26
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bimberiAdamMK: shouldn't need to restart anything06:27
Juhazand deskbar can look up dictionary words too, if you want06:27
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Xaphooah damn, that was dumb of me not to see that06:27
Xaphoothanks :)06:28
Xaphoosorry for cluttering the channel06:28
astroboyAny news on a release date for Edgy Eft ?06:28
crimsun!schedule > astroboy06:28
bimberiastroboy: Oct 26 is the target06:28
SuperMiguel!news06:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:28
astroboyGood, I can wait ..06:29
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ClayGanyoner know anything about buying a hp dv6000 laptop and getting the cheap one but later adding/replacing the cpu for a goodone? (as in better can you do this without soldering?")06:29
AdamMKthanks i'll try it06:29
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astroboycrimsun: thanks.06:29
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bug_hi.. does anyone know if the module (in modconf..) kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt250 will work with the nintendo usb wifi adapter? (or if the thing is supported in linux--i know that it is supported with ralink/"ral-rt2561" drivers in openbsd...)06:29
SuperMiguel!release06:30
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases06:30
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Metalcorecrimsun, it was started by qtjackctl06:30
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crimsunMetalcore: I need verbose debug spew pastebinned.06:31
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GhostFreeman!root06:33
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:33
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SuperMiguel!imbored06:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about imbored - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:33
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SuperMiguelwhat can you do with a server06:34
SuperMiguel?06:34
foohttp://shop2.outpost.com/product/4900981 - I am going to buy this 19" widescreen. Should I be worried about ubuntu compatibility with fluxbox?06:34
mikm[laptop] host webpages, files06:34
mikm[laptop] have an email server06:35
mikm[laptop] Stream media06:35
joeCoTrun a torrent, fold at home06:35
SuperMiguelwhen you install a email server how do you use it?06:35
mikm[laptop] Servers aren't needed for fold@home06:35
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joeCoTmilk: yeah, but it can't hurt :)06:35
starskydoes launchpad go offline often ?06:36
SuperMiguelumm?06:36
mikm[laptop] True, but if it's going to be under load, installing unnecessary things like f@h, boinc, etc. isn't the best idea06:36
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mighty_falconis there any setting in beryl to hide ur menuar? i loged on and my meny bar (the bar with maximize, minimize etc) is complete gone, and even when i try to apply a new emerald theme nothing happens06:36
mighty_falconmenubar*06:36
starskylaunchpad.net06:36
SuperMiguelbeside web hosting any other good intersting thing about home servers?06:37
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mighty_falconno ne?06:37
mighty_falconone*06:37
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wastrelberyl is edgy isn't it?06:38
mighty_falconnop06:38
mikm[laptop] beryl = compiz fork06:38
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wastreli mean it's in edgy06:38
mikm[laptop] No06:39
mikm[laptop] It's separate06:39
david_hi, my wireless card detects other networks, but I can't connect to anything06:39
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wastrelcdrecord is barfing06:40
SuperMiguelbeside web hosting any other good intersting thing about home servers?06:40
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joeCoTum, myth tv server? general file server? print server? router? firewall?06:41
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ArrenLexSuperMiguel: if you have a laptop you can set it up so it forwards connection details to your server every time it starts up... can help if it gets stolen...06:41
SuperMiguelwhat is an general file server06:41
joeCoTas in, a server to host files on the network06:42
ArrenLexSuperMiguel: you put files on it. And then, when you need them, you get them back.06:42
SuperMiguellike ftp?06:42
ArrenLexSuperMiguel: add it to a compile farm? A render farm?06:42
SuperMiguelumm06:42
SuperMiguelanything else fun06:42
wastrelimap06:43
joeCoTlol. what do you expect out of the server?06:43
ArrenLexSuperMiguel: you can put a cape on it and call it SuperComputer.06:43
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wastrelmusic server - stream music off of it06:43
SuperMigueli tried but the cape was to big so i wasnt able to see my computer06:43
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ArrenLexWhy am I not surprised?06:44
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SuperMiguelcuze you know me06:44
david_anyone know about wireless?06:44
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SuperMigueli do06:44
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SuperMiguelyou dont use cables xD06:44
omkarenatorbaxter kylie: parted /dev/sda9 print , showed me my ptn as reiserfs06:45
david_my card can see access points, but can't connect06:45
SuperMiguelwhat card is it?06:45
david_even if the strength is reasonable06:45
SuperMiguelbroadcon?06:45
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david_awlh302506:45
david_I believe it is TI chipset06:45
omkarenatorthat means its understanding ptn table06:45
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SuperMiguelimm any wep key?06:45
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omkarenatorbut how to tell ubuntu installer that install ubuntu on /dev/sda906:46
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RagePrblmAnyone awake06:46
SuperMiguelme06:46
mighty_falconis there any setting in beryl to hide ur menuar? i loged on and my meny bar (the bar with maximize, minimize etc) is complete gone, and even when i try to apply a new emerald theme nothing happens06:46
RagePrblmDo you know what uname means in this sentence?06:46
RagePrblmsudo apt-get update06:46
RagePrblmerr wrong sentence06:46
omkarenatorbaxter_kylie: ?06:46
ArrenLexThere are 841 people in the channel right now, RagePrblm. Someone is bound to be awake.06:46
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RagePrblmsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)06:46
david_no wep key06:47
RagePrblmwould I just paste that in, or is uname like my username06:47
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ArrenLexmighty_falcon: sounds to me like beryl crashed. Can you run it manually?06:47
mikm[laptop] uname is a command06:47
mikm[laptop] paste it in directly06:47
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RagePrblmoh ok06:47
RagePrblmthanks06:47
SuperMigueluname is a command06:47
SuperMiguellol06:47
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SuperMiguelslow :(06:47
ArrenLexNow say "polly want a cracker".06:47
david_mighty_falcon: I have that problem also all the time06:47
SuperMiguel"polly want a cracker"06:48
david_mighty_falcon: type sudo killall gnome-panel06:48
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ArrenLexGood boy!06:48
mighty_falconeven though im in kde?06:48
omkarenatorhow to install ubuntu in text mode using parted??? anybodY?06:48
david_mighty_falcon: oh, d'oh06:48
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david_mighty_falcon: nvm.... i dunno how to do equiv in kde06:48
mighty_falconArrenLex: hmm nop cuz other then that everything is working just fiine here06:48
mighty_falconArrenLex: ad yes it did crash the first time once i rebooted so had to reboot again06:49
ArrenLexmighty_falcon: the equivalent to killall gnome-panel to KDE is killall kicker. I don't know how it will help you, though.06:49
host`how do I list the things that are running in order to kill them?06:49
mighty_falcondavid_: :(06:49
mighty_falconArrenLex: once it crashed would i have to go through a pecial procedure?06:49
omkarenatorps06:49
david_mighty_falcon: didn't fix it?06:49
lightspeedbikerempty06:49
david_mighty_falcon: did you try what arren said?06:50
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Metalcorecrimsun, http://pastebin.com/80879706:50
mighty_falconit killed everything along with the menu at the bottom06:50
mighty_falconwhats the shortcut to log off?06:50
mighty_falconnvm got it, brb then :S06:50
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CppIsWeirdu do a su in terminal, and it askes for a password, i give it the password for the only account created on the ubuntu system.06:51
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CppIsWeirdand it says the password is wrong06:51
CppIsWeirdforgot to finish that :-P06:51
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ArrenLexCppIsWeird: su wants a root password. There is no root account for ubuntu. There is no right password you could ever give it. Use the "sudo" command.06:51
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mon^rchCppIsWeird: try passwd root first06:52
CppIsWeirdthanks mon06:52
mon^rcher, sudo passwd root06:52
mighty_falconArrenLex: i installed superkaramba recently would that conflict with beryl?06:52
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ArrenLexmighty_falcon: I don't see how, no.06:52
omkarenator /msg nickserv set unfiltered on06:52
CppIsWeirdthanks lots mon06:53
mighty_falconhmm and you do not know such an option that would disable this in beryl?06:53
mon^rchnp CppIsWeird06:53
host`I'm getting an error when trying to uninstall something, it's saying that it's running and it won't kill it06:53
SuperMiguelPlease enter the host name (e.g. www):server.example.com06:53
SuperMiguelPlease enter the domain (e.g. xyz.de):http://example.com/06:53
SuperMiguelThe URL is not reachable!06:53
host`how do I kill the process?06:53
SuperMiguelwhat is wrong there :S06:53
mighty_falconwell let me try this again lo off without superkaramba06:53
omkarenatorbaxter_kylie:r u there?06:53
crimsunMetalcore: pastebin.com is taking abnormally long to load06:54
CppIsWeirdalso, I seem to only have a max resolution of 800x600 (which is rather annoying). Any way to fix that?06:54
ArrenLexcrimsun: pastebin.com always takes abnormally long to load. use pastebin.ca or ubuntu's pastebin06:54
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crimsunArrenLex: (yes, I know.)06:54
ArrenLexCppIsWeird: have you tried going into gnome display settings? If so, and it only offers you up to 800x600, you're going to have to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and give yourself more resolutions.06:55
david_again, no ideas about wireless?06:55
CppIsWeirdyeah, i waent into display properties06:55
host`wireless?06:55
SuperMiguelti ti tio ta ta ta06:55
david_yea06:55
mon^rchCppIsWeird: make sure you change youre video drivers... also reebooting works sometimes06:55
david_I can see networks, but I can't associate with any of them06:56
CppIsWeirdoh, ok,06:56
host`david_, have you done /sudo iwconfig essid (essid)?06:56
david_yes06:56
host`david_, have you done '/sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid (essid)'?06:56
host`oh06:56
mon^rchI get 640X480 sometimes without an updaated vid driver06:56
host`david_, did you set any wep encryption?06:56
Metalcorecrimsun: well, here: http://pastebin.ca/20773706:56
david_host`: no06:56
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host`did you do dhclient wlan0?06:57
host`or did you do ifup?06:57
duckdownHey all, what package installs the binary "php" that you run from the command line?  I need it for a de-hexing tool06:57
david_host`: actually, ironically, this I live in mountain view, this is google wifi06:57
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duckdownI've installed php506:57
mighty_falconArrenLex: yes superkaramba did conflict06:57
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mighty_falconArrenLex: all good now06:57
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weexanyone had some luck installing yahoo messenger on dapper?06:58
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david_host`: i was looking on the forums and there was someone in a similar situation, since there are mulitple connection points, they actlike bridges06:58
crimsunMetalcore: what app are you attempting to connect?06:58
weexseems like it's complaining that openssl is too new06:58
mighty_falconweex:  y not use gaim?06:58
ArrenLexweex: why not use gaim?06:58
david_host`: so they all have same channel/essid06:58
weexi wanted to try voice06:58
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glutGlobecan somebody help me figure out why I have an open port on my machine, but no pid matched to it?06:58
david_host`: I thought I'd connect using the mac address, but that hasn't worked either06:58
weexi use zinc most of the time anywya06:58
mighty_falconanyways im off for the night, tnx ArrenLex  for the advice tonight06:58
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Geoffrey2sigh....whoever said patience is a virtue obviously used linux......06:59
Sketcher24hey all06:59
david_host`: part of the problem is that I don't really have a frame of reference for how powerfull the connection should be. iwconfig doesn't list decibles, it uses x/10006:59
ArrenLexweex: voice doesn't work in yahoo manager for Linux.06:59
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david_host`: my connection might just not be strong enough, but I don't know how strong it should be....07:00
crimsunMetalcore: I would try doing it from a Terminal instead of through qjackctl just to test that jackd's not at fault.07:00
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excelbluewhat does LTS mean? does it basically mean that software will be updated for a long time?07:00
weexoh too bad...still it'd be nice if could be installed07:00
ArrenLexLong Term Service.07:00
host`david_, try 'iwlist wlan0 ap'07:00
baxter_kyliehi everyone. DNS. Can someone please point out all of the modules / files related to dns client resolution?07:00
host`it will tell you the ap's available and how strong the signals are07:00
crimsunexcelblue: security-wise for the main component, yes07:00
excelblueeg. if I install Ubuntu 6.06.01 LTS, will I get updates on all the software until the time?07:00
david_ok07:00
excelblueok... so the idea is: security updates, but not version updates07:01
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david_host`: spits out a list of like.... 10 mac addresses07:01
host`or iwlist wlan0 peers07:01
crimsunexcelblue: correct, new upstream versions are not included by default07:01
ArrenLexexcelblue: Ubuntu is basically doing what Debian already does and calling it something special.07:01
Metalcorecrimsun: is that not just qtjackctl trying to connect to the jack server?07:01
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excelblueah, never used Debian for a long time before07:01
glutGlobebaxter_kylie: you should just be able to run dhclient from the base install07:01
host`it should tell you a signal strenght07:01
david_host`: the second from the top is the one i wanna connect to07:01
crimsunMetalcore: qjackctl doesn't need to.07:01
Metalcorehmm07:01
host`david_, they all have the same essids?07:01
david_with a "link quality" of 39/10007:02
david_it doesn't show essids with that command07:02
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david_it shows mac addresses07:02
Metalcoreand running from terminal works fine07:02
baxter_kylieglutGlobe: it's a static network.07:02
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host`right, if you just do iwlist wlan0 scan07:02
host`it should still be the second from the top, maybe not, but most likely07:02
oxyridedavid_, 39% is fair enough07:02
crimsunMetalcore: and you can connect your jack-aware app to the running jackd instance?07:02
excelblueso, by default, is Sypnatic only set up to get security updates?07:03
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host`can you set it to connect using a specific mac address?07:03
glutGlobebaxter_kylie: ... then why not just setup static ips?07:03
david_oxyride: that's what I thought, but I told iwconfig to connect to that ap and it just won't associate07:03
excelblueas well as packages associated with that specific Ubuntu version?07:03
glutGlobecan somebody help me figure out why I have an open port on my machine, but no pid matched to it?07:03
crimsunexcelblue: security and small updates.07:03
david_host`: that's what I have tried to do07:03
oxyridedavid_, O.o07:03
host`I mean, is it possible to tell it to connect to a specific mac address07:04
crimsunexcelblue: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates also07:04
host`I haven't ever tried that07:04
baxter_kylieglutGlobe: I am using static ips. DNS resolution, not dhcp problems. I can ping the wan. I can ping the lan, the gateway, the dns server itself. I'm even using the exact dns server on this machine with success but new ubuntu 6.06 install refuses to use dns resolution.07:04
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glutGlobebaxter_kylie: sorry...I misread your original request...DHCP!=DNS...07:05
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david_host`: you can the command is "iwconfig wlan0 ap 12:12:12:12:12:1207:05
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baxter_kylieglutGlobe: No problem.07:05
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host`after that did you do 'sudo dhclient wlan0'? or are you doing ifup?07:05
baxter_kylieI just want to know if some module or something is missing.07:05
david_i was using ifup07:06
menkohi, I set a new keyboard accelerator/shortcut for showing hidden files in nautilus (by pushing the key while hovering the menu item), but when I restart the application it is back to the old one (ctrl-H). So how do I make it stay permanently?07:06
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host`david_, try dhclient, 'if' came broken on my install both times I installed it07:06
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harisundDoes anybody here have any experience with setting up OpenVPN on Ubuntu?07:06
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host`it actually locks up my computer07:06
david_host`: trying now07:07
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host`it's possible that it has conflicts with other peoples configurations too07:07
dbglthey all, on upgrading to edgy, the font in openoffice is very odd and jagged (looks horrid). All other applications are fine. Is there anything I can do to fix it?07:07
david_host`: others on google wifi?07:07
host`what is google wifi?07:08
david_host`: you haven't heard? google is based in mountian view, and I live in mountian view07:09
Dasnipagoogle gives free wireless connection to the residents07:09
host`ahh07:09
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Dasnipaof mtn view07:09
david_host`: to give back to the community, they are offering free wifi to the whole city07:09
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host`that's awesome07:09
david_indeed07:09
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david_if only it worked with ubuntu linux, right....07:09
host`you'll all have cancer within 10 years07:09
tj_is there a way to disable the pc speaker on a laptop?07:09
SilentDishello :)07:09
host`it should work with linux07:09
david_david`: I know, but it will be good till then07:09
host`their end would be no different than hooking up to my router07:10
Dasnipadavid_, im sure it should work with ubuntu. especially since the bulk of google employees run a modified version of ubuntu at work07:10
SilentDisquicky question:  what plugin am I looking for to play flv files in totem?07:10
host`something's bunked in your end07:10
menkohi, how do I change menu entry keyboard accelerator/shortcuts permanently? I set the for showing hidden files in nautilus (by pushing the key while hovering the menu item), but when I restarted it, it was back to the old one (ctrl-H). So how do I make it stay permanently?07:10
david_Dasnipa: I know, that's what I am thinking to myself all the time, but I am still getting nowhere07:10
host`david_, how did the dhclient work out?07:10
david_host`: nothing07:11
host`did you let it run?07:11
david_host`: tried over and over, and still didn't connect07:11
baxter_kyliehost': Hehe. I think if put my wireless card at full 400mW strength with its 11db antennae birds would fall out of the sky. ;-)07:11
david_host`: yea07:11
host`it takes a while to resolve and IP07:11
tj_when i plug in headphones, the pc speaker refuses to mute... so i am looking to disable the pc speaker all together, how can i go about doing this?07:11
host`hmm07:11
david_host`: yea, it ran for like 5 min07:11
host`david_, try removing the essid07:11
host`iwconfig wlan0 essid07:11
host`iwconfig wlan0 essid nul07:12
host`or something like that07:12
mon^rchtj_:  doesn't the "volume mixer" have a mute pc speaker funct?07:12
host`and removing the mac address that you wanted to connect to07:12
david_"sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid any"07:12
Geoffrey2I'm trying to print out a document using Adobe Reader, the document is shifted down 1-2 inches on the page, and prints off the right side of the page...any idea how to fix this?07:12
host`essid off07:12
david_host`: k07:13
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tj_mon^rch: not that i can see...07:13
SilentDistotem runs off of gstreamer, right?07:13
baxter_kylieanyone want to share their two cents on my DNS problems?07:13
mon^rchtj_: well, mine does....07:13
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mon^rchhmph07:13
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host`david_, 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed'07:14
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ZirJokerespaol07:15
host`david_, 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap auto'07:15
timfrost!es07:15
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:15
david_host`: k one sec07:15
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host`david_, basically reseting all the options in iwconfig, then try 'sudo dhclient wlan0'07:15
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david_host`:d'oh, it connected to my neighbors07:16
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host`lol07:16
host`is there something wrong with that?07:16
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david_heh, it won't work on the other side of the house07:17
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host`is it a laptop?07:17
david_actually it's a desktop, i just move it a bit07:17
david_long story07:17
glutGlobe*07:18
host`lol07:18
david_basically, i want the google wifi to work07:18
host`ahh07:18
david_I had some other ideas with it too tho07:18
glutGlobe-07:18
david_google wifi caps download to 1mbps07:18
david_but they also cap upload to 1mbps07:18
david_and 1mbps up is really really fast07:18
host`ehh.. yeah07:18
host`I used to bet better with my dsl07:18
host`but really it is pretty good07:19
drivera90I want a 100mbit connection. Where should I move to?07:19
david_well, down it's mediocre07:19
david_but up it is nice07:19
host`drivera90, EU07:19
david_south korea07:19
david_EU is good too07:19
SilentDisnm, found my answer.  appears you can't play flv files directly, but converting them to mpegs works - http://jadmadi.net/2006/06/22/ubuntu-howto-converting-flv-to-mpg/07:20
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host`david_, had you gotten that computer to connect to your neighbors wifi before?07:20
kiviodrivera90, sweden :)07:21
oxyridewhat's gooogle wifi?07:21
drivera90I'm paying about $200/mo here for the best available. Namely, 512kbps that doesn't ever get anything higher than 10KB/s.07:21
oxyridewhere?07:21
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SilentDisdrivera90 - a town close to me, Reedsburg, WI, offers 10mbps up/down over fiber for like $60/month.07:21
david_yea07:21
host`my up speed is 512 kb/sec07:21
mon^rchhas anyone (else) had problems with themes not displaying pproperly in edgy???07:21
CppIsWeirdalso, I seem to only have a max resolution of 800x600 (which is rather annoying). Any way to fix that?07:22
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omkarenatoranybody using SATA on ubuntu ??07:22
david_oxyride: google wifi is free wifi in all of mountian view07:22
SilentDiscppisweird - try reconfiging the xserver?07:22
kivioCppIsWeird, type 'xrandr'07:22
david_oxyride: because google felt like giving back to the community07:22
kivioit lists all resolutions07:22
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oxyridedavid_, never heard of that07:23
CppIsWeirdright, and "All" the resolutions are 800x600 and below] 07:23
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host`david_, maybe try moving the computer to resolve an IP07:23
kivioCppIsWeird, are you using the vesa driver?07:23
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host`shouldn't be needed07:23
SilentDiscppisweird - what vid card do you have, and which driver are you using?07:23
host`but I don't know what else to tell you07:23
host`you said all the essid's are the same?07:24
CppIsWeirdi have no idea07:24
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tonyyarussoomkarenator: I believe mine is an IDE drive but SATA interface to it.07:24
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mon^rchCppIsWeird: are you using the stock drivers for your video???07:24
david_oxyride: http://wifi.google.com/support07:24
CppIsWeirdi installed ubuntu... what you know is what i know07:24
SilentDisahhh07:24
omkarenatoryea thats right07:24
kiviook07:24
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kivioati or nvidia CppIsWeird?07:24
CppIsWeirdthere is a string identify my card in the conf file, is that what x11 picked it up as?07:24
oxyridedavid_, gooogle has out of my life for a long time07:24
omkarenatordid u have any problem installing?07:24
CppIsWeirdif that is the case, it is an ATI card07:25
hollaback83is there an uninstall disc for ubuntu07:25
david_oxyride: I don't understand07:25
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hollaback83no07:25
tonyyarussohollaback83: You don't need one..07:25
=== mon^rch dunno how to setup ATI cards.... nVidia is great for support!!!
host` Open your Internet browser, and log into the network by using your Google Account. You will be able to create an account if you need one. Please note that if you do not see the Google WiFi login page immediately, open another site such as www.google.com. This should automatically load the Google WiFi login page.07:25
oxyridedavid_, I cannot receive any data from gooogle07:25
hollaback83how do u uninstall07:25
SilentDis< switched to nvidia as well07:25
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tonyyarussohollaback83: Just overwrite with anything else.07:26
david_oxyride: why is that?07:26
hollaback83ok07:26
david_host`: don't I have to associate first tho?07:26
oxyridedavid_, not sure07:26
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SilentDishollaback83: if you installed Ubuntu, then an 'uninstall' would basically leave your machine with NOTHING (no operating system at all).  if you just booted off the cd, simply choose to reboot, and remove the cd when prompted, and you'll be back in windows land :)07:26
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host`yeah07:27
host`I would think so07:27
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jrsimshey, what's the edgy repo I need to hook into to upgrade my dapper?07:27
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david_oxyride:07:28
david_Google WiFi is a free wireless Internet service offered in the city of Mountain View, California, as part of Googles ongoing community outreach efforts. The service is available for anyone to use, provided they have what is required to access the Google WiFi network. Google WiFi is primarily an outdoor network, although there are ways to access the Google WiFi network from inside your home or office. An exception to this is t07:28
mon^rchCppIsWeird: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29   (try that, but be careful!!!)07:28
techi i installed opera using synaptic....now i cant run it where do i load the progg....im new to linux i dont know where theprogram files folder is and opera is not in the applications button07:28
oxyridedavid_ , someone told me that FON is much better07:28
sandy16how to get ntfs write support in dapper 6.06 i have tried ntfs-3g but no use07:28
david_host`: tried to do the open web browser thing, didn't work....07:28
david_oxyride: FON? either way... Googlewifi is here now....07:29
starskysandy16: ntfs write is safe (atleast that's what linux-ntfs say).07:29
SilentDistec - did you try opening a console and just typing opera to see if that launches it?07:29
oxyridedavid_, ...07:29
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tonyyarussotec: Alt-F2, opera.  (You can add it to the menu later)07:29
overriderhow can i start the sshd service from the command line in ubuntu?07:30
tonyyarussooverrider: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start most likely07:30
starskysudo /etc/init.d/ssh start07:30
sandy16starsky, so do i need to apt-get that linux-ntfs?07:30
SilentDistec - if that works, you can add it to the menu using Menu > Applications > Alacarte menu editor07:30
starskysandy16: if you are using 2.6.x kernel, it's already there07:30
david_wow, it's 10:30pm later, thanks for the help07:30
oxyridedavid_, if you use gooogle wiki, does it mean gooogle can collect all information about you legally?07:31
tecalt f2 did launch it though it is searching for missing pluigins it says pls install motif07:31
mon^rchCppIsWeird: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide   (this looks a lil' more promising)07:31
overriderhmm it says privilege seperation user sshd does not exist07:31
oxyridedavid_?07:31
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starskytry mounting ntfs with -rw07:31
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starskysandy16: uname -r gives your kernel version07:32
starsky'uname -r'07:32
mneptonoverrider: how did you instal the ssh server?07:32
mnepton+l07:32
SilentDistec - did you use an apt-get command, or synaptic, to install opera?07:32
overridermnepton just apt-get install openssh-server07:33
sandy16starsky, mine is 2.6.1507:33
mneptonoverrider: then "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start" should work07:33
tecsynaptic07:33
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teci cant seem to find alacartemenu editor07:34
sandy16starsky, shall i need to edit the /etc/fstab?07:34
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tecwould a different menu editor just do the same07:34
wastrelubunto07:34
mneptontec: what version of Opera is this? IIRC, Opera 9 did away with the libmotif dependency07:34
jezzaanyone know how to install kernel source for 2.6.15-27?07:34
SilentDistec - yes07:35
tec8.5107:35
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mon^rchtec: try system>preferences>menu layout07:35
starskysandy16: sudo mount -rw -t ntfs /dev/[s-h] d[a/b/c]  /your/mount/directory.07:35
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starskysandy16: e.g., mount -rw -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/ntfs07:35
Geoffrey2I'm looking at a long list of video drivers for the X server that are intstalled....any reason why I couldn't uninstall the drivers I don't need?07:35
wastrelbecause they're part of the kernel package07:35
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techmmm there is no menu layout in system preferences either im running 5.10 , anyway im in a menu editor now im adding opera but to which folder is the equivalent of program files where can i find its executable file07:36
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SilentDisbrb...07:36
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wastrelthere was no menu editor for gnome in 5.10 iirc07:36
wastrelwas added in dapper07:36
sandy16starsky, no use still its read only filesystem07:37
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tecapplication > system tools>then application menu editor with a big foot sign07:37
griffindoddgood evening all you fine people07:37
mneptontec: aha! you have an antique version of Ubuntu!07:37
tecreally?07:37
mneptontec: why 5.10 and not 6.06?07:37
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teci dont know really i jsut popped in a cd a friend gave me07:38
mneptonlol07:38
BHSPitLappyheh07:38
BHSPitLappywell, you're about a year behind I'm afraid07:38
techow can upgrade with having the same things not erased i did a lot of tweaking already..07:38
mneptontec: the newer version with its newer repos has a better Opera07:38
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tuxxeecan't you completely upgrade ubuntu without reinstalling ?07:38
starskysandy16: I am running 2.6.15-27-386 and I can mount it with read/write ? what's your ntfs driver version ?07:38
Madpilottec, you can upgrade 5.10 to 6.0607:38
BHSPitLappymnepton, even our repo doesn't have the latest opera though07:38
mneptontec: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:38
Madpilotubotu, tell tec about upgrade07:38
mneptonBHSPitLappy: but at least it's Opera 9, and doesn't throw a hissy fit over Motif.07:39
Madpilotmnepton, Breezy->Dapper has the graphical upgrader, remember?07:39
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mneptonMadpilot: eh, i like the CLI :)07:39
tecim looking at the 5.10 to 6.06 right?07:39
BHSPitLappyyes07:39
tecis 6.06 the latest?07:39
Madpilottec, ys07:39
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tecmy...the numbers itself07:40
teclol07:40
mneptontec: yes, it is the latest final release07:40
rashiI need kernel source for 2.6.15-27 in Dapper. When I type apt-get install kernel-source it starts downloading 2.4.something. How do I get the right source package?07:40
mnepton(6.10 is still cooking)07:40
lrmam trying to automount an nfs share. have this in my fstab: 10.0.0.1://media/servernfs4rw,hard,intr0007:40
crimsunrashi: linux-source-2.6.1507:40
mon^rch6.10 is pretty damn stable over here... everyone07:40
sandy16starsky, i got it07:41
sandy16starsky, i i have used sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /media/d -o force07:41
lrmhow do i do this? currently, i have to issued this command to mount the share: sudo mount -a07:41
rashicrimsun, I get error Couldn't find package kernel-source-2.6.15. Any other ideas?07:41
crimsunrashi: read carefully.07:42
starskysandy16: ~8)07:42
rashioops, sorry07:42
teci go log in different account this account cant access synaptic... and do majorchanges be back07:42
sandy16starsky, but how can i add tht in /etc/fstab07:42
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tuxxeetec: switch to a different console and login as - oh never mind07:42
griffindoddanyone know the trick for getting amarok to run in Gnome???07:42
crimsungriffindodd: install it and libxine-extracodecs, then run it.07:43
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starskysandy16: sudo gedit /etc/fstab07:43
lrmanybody who could help me with my prob?07:43
griffindoddcrimsun: thanks07:43
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Geoffrey2can anyone help me with a gpg problem?07:44
sandy16starsky, not that man, how can i implement this same functionality using fstab?07:44
mon^rchis libxine-extracodecs still missing in dapper?07:44
griffindoddweird, I have Libxine installed, when I try and run Amorak nothing happens - any ideas?07:45
crimsunmon^rch: it's not at all "missing".07:45
starskysandy16: insert this (last line) /dev/sda1 /media/ntfs ntfs rw,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0     007:45
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crimsun!info libxine-extracodecs07:45
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB07:45
bozo_(please forgive my newb-ness) anyone here good with ndiswrapper?07:45
bozo_I have provided lots of info: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27946907:45
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mon^rchcrimsun: it waaaaaaaas at one point :(07:46
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starskysandy16: all good ?07:47
Geoffrey2can anyone help me with a gpg problem?  I keep getting errors complaining about unsafe ownership of the gpg.conf file.....07:47
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sandy16starsky, i think i need to restart to check fstab? is n`t it?07:47
starskysandy16: restart ubuntu ?07:48
ian_im back....pls send me the plink on how to upgrade to 6.06 thnx07:48
sandy16starsky, so catch you later , thanks alot07:48
wastrel07:48
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UFDF_DAVID_DONGI have installed Ubuntu, the maximum Resolution it will give me is 800x600. I have an ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB] 07:49
starskysandy16: no probs. no need to restart ubuntu.. once /etc/fstab is written, just do mount /media/ntfs.. that's it. :) tata Sandy..07:49
mon^rchUFDF_DAVID_DONG: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide07:49
sandy16starsky, ok i will try tht07:50
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griffindoddnope still can't run Amarok here in Gnome07:51
sandy16starsky, no use07:51
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mon^rchI guess I shouldn't give out advice on ATI since I don't got a ATI card07:51
mon^rch:P07:51
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hollaback83if i plugged a digital camcorder into my computer wut program would i use to play the the movie07:52
IceCreamMattanyone know why my /var/backup folder is shared in samba?07:52
Hit3khollaback83, totem?07:52
sandy16starsky, here update manager is running so may be i should restart after that07:52
hollaback83thanks07:52
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ian_guys anyone who can help me uprade from 5.10 to the latest?07:52
IceCreamMattsudo apt-get update07:52
IceCreamMattsudo apt-get upgrade07:53
bimberi!upgrade07:53
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes07:53
Hit3ksudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:53
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mon^rchyou guys are forgetting to tell to edit the sources.lst file....07:53
bimberithere are a few prerequisites before dist-upgrading, see the site above.07:53
bimberithat's one of them :)07:54
mon^rch:D07:54
IceCreamMattanyone know why my /var/backup folder is shared in samba?07:54
IceCreamMatti never shared it but i happend to come across it shared by accident07:54
ian_yep i read it awhile ago in a different user account i change because i cant access synaptic int hat account now i cant find the exact link07:54
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RagePrblmAnyone still awake?07:55
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mon^rchchan never sleeps07:55
mon^rch:P07:55
RagePrblmgroovy07:55
RagePrblmCan you recommend a good newsgroup binaries downloader07:55
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whysohow do i check for software updates in terminal07:56
whysonever mind07:56
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marcrosoftso i updated init.d and now hal is not initializing07:57
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godtviskenHow can I make my own custom keyboard layout? I mean, i see the layouts in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts..07:57
starskymacrosoft: is hald running?07:57
whysowhats this mean? Reading package lists... Done07:58
whysoW: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371807:58
weexwow godtvisken how might you  be using a totally custom kb layout?07:58
marcrosoftstarsky, ps -A | grep hald comes up empty07:58
starskype -ef  | grep 'hald' ?07:58
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marcrosoftstarsky, pe?08:00
starskyps08:00
starsky*)08:00
starskyq::q08:00
Geoffrey2can anyone help me with a gpg problem?  I keep getting errors complaining about unsafe ownership of the gpg.conf file.....08:00
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marcrosoftmark     11638 11410  0 00:00 pts/3    00:00:00 grep hald08:00
linlinwhere do i get the ubuntu with the non-graphical installer?08:01
marcrosoftlinlin, from their website..08:01
marcrosoftlinlin, look for server version08:01
linlini cant find it08:01
lrmthanks guy, maybe next time08:01
starskymacrosoft: hald isn't running.08:01
linlinoh its the server version?08:01
Tomcat_Geoffrey2: Set it like this: -rw------- 1 tomcat tomcat   8084 2006-06-02 16:20 gpg.conf08:01
mon^rchlinlin: I think the "alternate" has text install too...????08:02
marcrosoftstarsky, yeah,  thats what it means when it says couldn't initialize right?08:02
Tomcat_Geoffrey2: Or move it away, run gpg, then edit the new file... that will fix it as well.08:02
starskyso ? start hald. :)08:02
linlinok thanks08:03
marcrosoft/etc/init.d/hald start?08:03
jrsimsI want to upgrade to edgy! What repo do I need to add?08:03
starskyif it'08:03
marcrosoftnm08:03
starsky's there..08:03
marcrosoftjust hald I take it08:03
ian_can i im getting this error W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371808:03
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starskyotherwise use the binary somewhere in /usr/bin08:03
starskydaemonize it.08:03
bimberijrsims: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades08:04
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marcrosofthal-device              hal-find-by-capability  hal-get-property08:05
marcrosofthal-device-manager      hal-find-by-property    hal-set-property08:05
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marcrosofterror: dbus_bus_get: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory08:05
marcrosoftwhen trying to run hal-device08:05
Geoffrey2Tomcat_, what's the command line to do that?08:05
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starskyyou don't seem to have hald intalled.. do 'find / -name hald -print0'08:05
starskyreport it here.. just output..08:06
mon^rchman, this distro has such a future...08:06
Tomcat_Geoffrey2: From your home: "cd .gnupg", "chown <youruser>.<yourgroup> gpg.conf", "chmod 600 gpg.conf"08:06
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starskyI don't understand why hald wasn't installed when you isntalled hal ?08:07
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marcrosoftstarsky, that didn't do anything...08:08
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ReinHquick bash question: how could I remove all files ending in .swp from a directory and its subdirectories?08:08
starskydidn't find.08:08
starskywhat's your hal version ?08:08
marcrosoftstarsky, i never remember installing hal... does it come with the os?08:08
ian_guys is kubuntu as solid as ubuntu? well i tried kubuntu twice but it always seems to just get faulty along the way08:08
Geoffrey2Tomcat_, so I could just blow away the .conf file, and have gpg create a new one?08:08
Tomcat_Geoffrey2: Yes, that should work as well.08:09
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starskyare you running edgy or dapper ? breezy ?08:09
starskyyeah it does.08:09
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marcrosoftsynaptic says 0.5.7-1ubuntu1808:09
ian_because i cant seem to upgrade to 6.06 and i really have little knowledge of linux so i would just have to install it over again and just add evereything again with kubuntu ill jsut download kbuuntu 6.0608:09
marcrosoftstarsky, dapper08:09
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starskydoes 'whereis hald' report anything ?08:10
marcrosoftstarsky, hald: /usr/sbin/hald /usr/share/man/man8/hald.8.gz08:10
ian_http://usalug.org/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=62   ..... any suggestion with this i want to upgrade my version08:10
starskyyeah!08:10
marcrosoftstarsky, odd that find command didnt find it08:11
starskyrun that now, with 'sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes'08:11
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mon^rchnite all08:11
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starsky8)08:11
marcrosoftstarsky, doesn't seem to come up08:11
starskytata mon^rch08:12
starskydid it execute ?08:12
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marcrosoftstarsky, i think so.. but nothing showed up in ps08:12
starsky'sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes --verbose=yes'08:12
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starskyps -ef | grep 'hald' ?08:13
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marcrosoftmark     26585 23087  0 00:14 pts/5    00:00:00 grep hald08:13
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starskytail -f /var/log/messages ?08:14
ReinHsolved my own problem :) find -name '*.swp' -exec rm '{}' \;08:14
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ltR222Hello, if i update to edgy is it the FINAL FINAL RELEASE ?08:15
ltR222is it safe to upgrade08:15
FractureltR222: no08:15
Ademanthere isnt a way to make VIM's window splits be GUI based as opposed to just splitting the window with ascii |   is there?08:15
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AdemanltR222: no its not safe yet08:15
ltR222Oh, Okay08:15
griffindoddman am I insane or is there some trick o installing Amorak on Gnome??08:15
marcrosoftstarsky, what should i be looking for here08:16
FractureltR222: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule08:16
Ademanbut if you were to, you'd open up /etc/apt/sources.list and replace everything that says "dapper" with "edgy"08:16
excelbluewhat's the difference between the Ubuntu CD and DVD?08:16
IceCreamMattanyone know how to unshare the folder /var/backup or prevent it from being accessed via samba share?08:16
Ademangriffindodd: no tricks afaik, wht seems to be the problem?08:16
marcrosoftOct 17 23:52:00 localhost kernel: [17210734.784000]  usb 3-1: USB disconnect, add ress 308:16
ianmacgregorgriffindodd: sudo apt-get install amarok ?08:16
marcrosoftwas the last item08:16
BHSPitLappyexcelblue, the dvd is more bloated08:16
starsky'cat /var/log/messages | grep hald' is what you need, try to see what the problem is with the hald08:16
griffindoddademan and aian...: When I try and run Amorak after installing it nothing happens, it doesn't launch08:17
bozo_ndiswrapper... anyone?08:17
Ademangriffindodd: and you added it through apt?08:17
ianmacgregorgriffindodd: Try running it from a term and see if there is any error output08:17
griffindoddademan: yups08:17
marcrosoftstarsky, that comes up with nothing08:17
griffindoddok08:17
Ademangriffindodd: huh... do what ianmacgregor said08:17
griffindoddkk08:17
Ademanwait... ianmacgregor. are you a macgregor? lol08:18
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ianmacgregorAdeman: What gave you that idea? lol08:18
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griffindoddflaoting point exception???08:18
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starskymacrosoft, last resort is still left, re-install it using synaptic. anyone here can look into macrosoft's problem ?08:18
Ademanlol, i'm a macgregor too, but like... way down the line haha08:18
marcrosoftstarsky, ok, I will try that now08:19
ianmacgregorAdeman: Small world :)08:19
Ademangriffindodd: huhm just like a KDE app to divide by zero :-p08:19
Ademanbut seriously08:19
griffindoddodd08:19
marcrosoftstarsky, brb08:19
Ademanthat's very wierd08:19
Geoffrey2Tomcat_, this is the stuff that proves how very much I still need to learn....now it's complaining there's no writable keyring08:21
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Tomcat_Geoffrey2: All files in .gnupg need to have the same owner/group and permissions... <youruser>.<yourgroup> and 600... unfortunately I need to go, so somebody else needs to help you. :\08:23
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Geoffrey2Tomcat_, ok, thanks for your help08:24
marcrosoftstarsky, sill failing to initialize HAL... also it says the power manager cannot start until you start the dbus system service08:24
Wiseguyhave any of you guys used anything bluetooth with ubuntu?08:25
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PsychobudgieI've used my Sony mobile with it08:26
starskymarrosoft: here's the people who'll help you out #hal08:26
starskygo to that channel.08:26
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ReverseBladeWiseguy, I did08:26
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yellowtimehello08:27
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Wiseguyim just thinking about getting a bluetooth mouse for my laptop, and im just not 100% sure on the compatibility08:27
starskysorry mate, couldn't be of help. hope it get's fixed. #hald  on freenode.net (sorry at freenode.net)08:27
jos_haai08:28
marcrosoftstarsky, do you think the power issue is related?08:28
yellowtimewhat kind of laptop?08:28
Wiseguyyellowtime, ive got an acer travelmate 290...08:28
jos_is er iemand die nederlansd spreekt08:28
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ReverseBladeWiseguy, I'll tell you what I did. I manage to connect gprs via my cellphone with bluetooth on ubuntu. Also made some file transfers. But did not tried anything other than a cell phone. It will work but you will have to dig in bluetooth stuff08:29
marcrosoftstarsky, thanks for your help08:29
yellowtimeI want an ibm08:29
starskymarcrosoft: maybe. but not that likely. hal controls the device drivers .. no problem as i said #hal on freenode.net08:29
WiseguyReverseBlade, a cellphone is alittle bit more complicated than what i need though, im just looking to get a mouse to work so i dont have to carry around a receiver08:29
marcrosoftstarsky, yeah i am in the hal channel now :)08:30
starskygoodluck.08:30
yellowtimeCan someone help me with a printing problem?08:30
ReverseBladeWiseguy, I say it will work 90% probability. But it will be painful08:30
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ReverseBladeWiseguy, to set it up08:31
yellowtimeTo get it working08:31
yellowtimewith linux08:31
ReverseBladeyellowtime, what is your printers brand ?08:31
marcrosoftstarsky, going to try this  http://easylinuxguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=68.msg23308:31
marcrosoftwish me luck08:31
marcrosoftbrb08:31
yellowtimehp08:31
yellowtime261008:31
yellowtimeall in one08:31
ReverseBladehp has a support for printing in linux usally08:32
ReverseBladetry to dig in forum pages and wiki08:32
ReverseBladeit is easy08:32
yellowtimeI've tried to do this but still cannot seem to get it workingg08:32
yellowtimelpr say command not found08:33
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yellowtimelp says no default destination08:33
yellowtimeany ideas?08:34
FrenchI was wondering if I could get some help :)! Its pretty simple, I want to know if I can change the colour of the text in the task bar, Can anyone help me? The forums have nothing :(08:34
ReverseBladeyellowtime, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceDapper08:34
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yellowtimethanks for the link08:35
ReverseBladeyour welcome08:35
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DraconPernI have already installed ubuntu, grub is on the mbr, I need to relocate my grub to /dev/sd608:36
DraconPernhow do I do that?08:36
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ReverseBlade!grub08:37
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:37
ReverseBladeDraconPern, also #grub08:37
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yellowtimeDoes anyone know if the Ecs 482-m motherboard is compatible with ubuntu and linux in general?08:38
yellowtimeIt is rs482-m08:39
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griffindoddcan anyone recommend a powerful music player/library for gnome?08:40
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whysoif i said copy to another partition, it shoudl be O.K. to format the origional partition without losing data right08:40
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DraconPerndoes the find command in grub actually work?  It just says 'error 15: file not found'08:41
yellowtimea good music player is xmms08:41
Jewfroyellowtime, is your specific question about the onboard LAN or onboard video?08:41
yellowtimeNo I just want to know if the board in general is compatible08:41
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rhetti haven't used ubuntu since warty08:42
wastrelhi hi08:42
rhettis it really more popular than fedora now?08:42
wastrelfunny i've been using ubuntu since warty08:42
starsky!vlc > griffindodd08:42
wastrelit really is quite popular.08:42
whysowhen you use the copy folder feature it makes a new copy, not a link right08:42
rhetti'm downloading the desktop cd08:42
rhetti guess i'll give it a try08:42
griffindoddstartsky: I have 7000+ songs, I need good library functions too08:43
Jewfroyellowtime, why wouldn't it be? There are sometimes problems with certain mobo features, LAN, video, RAID, etc08:43
starsky!amarok > griffindodd08:43
whysogriffindodd: lightweight :)08:43
Lam_rhett: just a heads up, the new 6.10 Edgy Eft release comes out next thursday08:43
Jewfrobut you'll have to check the hardware compatibility list against the specific features instead of the mobo08:43
starsky!xmms > griffindodd08:43
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rhetthow do i upgrade to edgy then?08:43
yellowtimeHave you heard of this particular mobo having problems08:43
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synd3Best P2P app available in ubuntu's apt?08:44
starskygriiffindodd: I'd go for vlc.08:44
synd3Gnutella, that is08:44
rhettno offense, but I had lots of problems with warty08:44
Lam_rhett: from dapper, you can run $sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  to upgrade to beta right now, or just wait till next thursday08:44
yellowtimejewfro?08:44
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Jewfroyellowtime, never ran linux on one personally. Installed plenty of them for customers, but always w/windows08:44
Lam_rhett: ubuntu has gone a long ways since warty08:44
rhettit was very difficult to upgrade firefox and mysql in warty, i remember08:44
yellowtimeOk08:44
griffindoddhe he, I'll try em, although I haven't seen anything as strong as 'Listen Player' yet but it doesn't appear to play wma08:44
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yellowtimeI tried looking on the web for compatibility but did not get a straight answer08:45
Jewfroyellowtime, you won't get one on the "mobo", you'll have to check the specific components08:45
_azraelIs there a way to unfreeze a terminal that's recieved ^S ?08:45
_azrael*How does one unfreeze a terminal that's recieved ^S?08:45
synd3Best Gnutella P2P app available in ubuntu's apt?08:45
rhettMy main concern is that I have 2 lcds and it's hard to get xorg configured on my old fedora 3 setup.  So, i'm correct that ubuntu is popular enough, it should be able to figure it out now, right?08:45
rhettan nvidia graphics card as well08:45
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starsky!xmms-wma08:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xmms-wma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:46
starsky!wma-xmms08:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wma-xmms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:46
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wastrel_azrael try ^r08:46
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smotangHow do I use a Bin file?08:46
ReverseBladesynd emule ?08:47
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JewfroAnyone know how to fix this: W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371808:47
Jewfro?08:47
_azraelwastrel: Doesn't fix the problem. It's in vim, does that help?08:47
wastrelsorry i dunno then08:47
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yellowtimejewfro, I enter lpinfo -v and I see hp/nodevice found as one of the entrys. any Ideas08:48
starskyJewfro: AFAIK you need to import the gpg keyring.08:48
Jewfroprint?08:48
Jewfroyellowtime, printer I mean?08:48
Jewfrostarsky, how?08:48
yellowtimeYes+08:49
starskyJewfro: don't know.08:49
Jewfrome either!08:49
starskyok08:49
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JewfroI was playing with easyubuntu, and that happened, sigh...08:49
starskygpg --help08:50
wastrelwell couldn't you just remove the freecontrib.org repository08:50
smotang!bin08:50
mlLkis there any windows64x problems while installing ubuntu?08:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
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starsky!blobber08:50
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Jewfrostarsky, duh!, thanks, sometimes I need to be reminded of the obvious08:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about blobber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:51
smotangAnyone know how to unpack/run a bin file in ubuntu?08:51
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Ignatiusguys, I have gigs of ram and I'd like to define a dvd rip program to use it as cache instead of some directory on my hd. is that wise / possible? :)08:51
ianmacgregorsmotang: sh file.bin08:51
Jewfrosmotang, I may be wrong, but aren't those the ones you do via ./configure?08:51
starskyJewfro: gpg --help | grep 'import' probably ?08:51
Jewfroianmacgregor, ah yes, like americas army sh ./americasarmy, YES!08:52
wastrelsmotang what program, did you check to see if it's in the repos first?08:52
Ignatiusso to continue my question is the random access memory located somewhere like /dev/ or anything?08:52
smotangthanks! ian08:52
ianmacgregorsmotang: You're welcome :)08:52
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mneptonIgnatius: Linux handles virtual memory on its own. user intervention is not required, and is strongly discouraged.08:53
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smotangwastrel what did you mean by repos?08:54
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smotangI tried the sh file.bin command from terminal it didnt work, came up with an unable to run binary? should i maybe run it through root? Using sudo perhaps?08:55
Jewfrosmotang, repositories, trying typing "sudo aptitude install xxx" from command line, xxx being the program name08:55
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mneptonsmotang: try just ./filename.bin08:56
mneptonsmotang: what app is this?08:56
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Jewfrosmotang, and yes, run that as root, if it's not in the repositories and that's the only way to install it.08:56
smotangit is08:56
smotangthe planeshift client08:56
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smotangits a free mmo that has a linux client08:57
pckim93Hi, can I ask abou ubuntu installation on core 2 duo?08:57
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mnepton!ask08:57
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:57
smotangsudo sh PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin is that the way i should word the command?08:57
pckim93OK.  I have a new machine (G965 chipset (E6400))08:57
smotangthanks jewfro08:58
Jewfrosmotang sudo sh ./filename08:58
mneptonsmotang: no, just "./Plane<tab><enter>"08:58
pckim93And I tried installing Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS Desktop and 6.10 Beta as well..08:58
smotangah thanks!08:58
mneptonJewfro: the file in question may not be a sheel script.08:58
mnepton*shell08:58
pckim93but it hangs while trying to load the CD.08:58
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mneptonhooboy. the 965.08:59
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pckim93yes...08:59
smotangit says error executing file.08:59
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Jewfrowhat error?08:59
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smotangcannot execute binary file08:59
mneptonIntel has not yet been entirely forthcoming about the 965. support is ... spotty.08:59
pckim93I've been looking for some answers in forums...08:59
pckim93I see.08:59
smotangany ideas?08:59
mneptonsmotang: ls -l Plane<tab><enter>08:59
pckim93So it can't be done?08:59
Caplainis there direct3d support for wine?09:00
mneptonpckim93: it can be done, but is problematic09:00
smotangit doesnt do anything when i hit tab?09:00
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pckim93problematic meaning hard or not usable?09:00
mneptonsmotang: it should auto-complete that long filename for you.09:01
smotangit just beeps09:01
Jewfroautocomplete yourself then09:01
ianmacgregorsmotang: I figured you wouldn't be able to run it if sh file.bin didn't work. It doesn't mater if it isn't a shell script, sh file.bin should work if it's a bin file09:01
mneptonpckim93: problematic meaning "in our lab we have 965-based stuff where one SATA controller works, one does not. sound works on Dapper, not on Edgy." etc etc etc09:01
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pckim93I see.  I don't care about sound for now...09:02
Caplainubuntu - page 3 of "things that go beep vol 4"09:02
pckim93I'm trying to run vmware (which might also be an issue, I guess)...09:02
pckim93vmware server09:02
pckim93and I would like to run a ubuntu server inside it.09:02
pckim93as a virtual machine09:02
pckim93so first, I need to install ubuntu desktop, then install vmware server, then install ubuntu server in a VM.09:03
pckim93I hope this is doable.09:03
smotangJewfro: i tried that, it still says it cannot execute binary09:03
mneptonpckim93: you're missing the point. Intel has not released full specs for the 965. so Linux support for it is not good. this means the sound may or may not work, depending on your implementation. it also means that Linux may well just stop seeing the hard drive one day. or the NIC. or who knows what.09:03
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Caplainpckim93: vmware?09:03
mneptonpckim93: this is why one does not buy hardware on the bleeding edge. scabs suck. ;)09:03
Caplainlol09:04
pckim93I didn't.  It's my friend's computer.09:04
pckim93I'm trying to set it up for him.09:04
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smotangian: is there anything else i can try?09:04
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pckim93I was hoping to avoid buying Windows...09:04
mneptonwell, good luck. the 965 definitely fails our support tests.09:04
pckim93Hmmm... OK.09:04
wastrelsmotang   file Planetblah.blah09:04
tuck3rwhy would nano backspace backwards?09:04
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Jewfropckim93, I had a similar problem once, ACPI error....09:04
pckim93Were you able to fix it?09:05
Jewfropckim93, required a bios update to resolve09:05
Jewfroyes, bios update09:05
ianmacgregorsmotang: is it executable?09:05
pckim93Hmmm.. maybe I'll try that.09:05
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johanmullerhow do I upload messenger on ubuntu09:05
pckim93I'll try the bios update...09:05
smotanghow do i check?09:05
ianmacgregorsmotang: ls Pla<tab><enter>09:05
pckim93hmmm... how do I update the BIOS without any O/S?09:05
variantjohanmuller: what do you mean?09:05
Jewfropckim93, not sure if that's your problem, with such new hardware, but you could check.09:05
taylor|killedXi was monkeying around with my xorg.conf and broke my config.  so I restored from the last working copy and now I get the nvidia loading screen and then x dies without any errors in the logs09:05
ianmacgregorsmotang: It should say somethng like -rwxr-xr-x09:05
variantpckim93: download the bios update fromyour bios vendor website and burn it to floppy/cd, its normaly bootable imagbe09:06
johanmullernot able to upload yahoo messenger on my computer09:06
pckim93OK.  Thanks.09:06
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smotangok i tried ls and it came back with the filename in green?09:06
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Madpilotjohanmuller, gaim can do yahoo msgr, if that's what you mean...09:06
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johanmullerbut how do i do it09:07
ianmacgregorsmotang: ok, that means it's executable. Perhaps the download was corrupted or something09:07
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variantjohanmuller: where are you trying to upload yahoo messenger to?09:07
Acke_ubujohanmuller, how do you mean? upload? where?09:07
pacmananyone familiar with getting a printer set up?09:07
variantjohanmuller: and why are you uploading it at all?09:07
smotangHow to use an md5 checksum to check see if it is corrupt or not?09:07
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johanmullermy computer went the gaim option but it doesnt let me connect09:08
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ianmacgregorsmotang: md5sum -c file.bin09:08
variantsmotang: download te .md5 and run md5sum /path/to/file.md5 making sure taht both the downloaded md5 and the main file are in the same dir09:08
smotangthanks09:08
Jewfrojohanmuller, there is a yahoo linux client, but gaim should work, check settings09:08
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johanmullerI have a pentium 2 running ubuntu09:09
smotangok here is the md5sum: md5sum: cb456493c8a51fe02267b234887610f709:09
Jewfrojohanmuller, check the gaim settings, make sure you have the newest version as well.09:09
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ianmacgregorsmotang: Does that match the md5sum on the app's website?09:10
overridermy lan topology is hosts -> switches -> 4 port hub -> router -> modem -> internet.... any problems with that hub there in the middle?09:10
gneral0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 32 not upgraded.09:10
gneralhow to remove bold text from apt-get ? I was deleted manually that file and now I cant install any package09:11
variantsmotang: the md5sum command that i told you will tell you if the file is good or now09:11
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variantor not*09:11
johanmullerok i have opened gaim but says ive been disconnected09:12
aoupioverrider: I have almost exactly the same setup and I don't have any problems09:12
johanmullerwhen logging on09:12
fourcan someone tell me how to make tv out work with ati Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M09:12
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Jewfrojohanmuller, run synaptic and check for updates, you may have an old version09:12
johanmullerhow do i do that?09:13
superdumphello good people09:13
variantoverrider: is there a problem with your network?09:13
Jewfrojohanmuller, alternately you could try using kopete, sudo apt-get kopete...09:13
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smotangIt came back with: md5sum: PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin: no properly formatted MD5 checksum lines found09:13
Jewfrojohanmuller, system, administration, synaptic package manager09:13
smotangwhat does that mean?09:13
variantsmotang: did you download the checksum and the file from the same site?09:13
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superdumpi've been prodding around trying to get the touchpad on my macbook functioning fully with two/three finger taps for middle and right clicks and also two-finger dragging/scrolling but i'm struggling at the moment09:14
fouris there a way to make tv out work with ati Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M09:14
superdumpdoes anyone else have a macbook and has already done this in ubuntu, or know how to?09:14
Geoffrey2can anyone reccomend a decent program for web page design?09:14
johanmullerok will try09:14
smotangIm confused. the command i used was: md5sum -c PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin09:14
variantfour: probably09:14
overridervariant , no, i just added that hub there to do some protocol monitoring09:14
aoupiGeoffrey2: gedit :p09:14
JewfroGeoffrey2, , screem09:14
Jewfroaoupi :)09:15
fourthe ati website has linu software but i cant get it to work, mightnot be compatable with ubuntu?09:15
danny_anyone else experience the dreaded Grub error 17, upon boot?09:15
superdumpGeoffrey2: wysiwig? i tend to manually write stuff or use something like wordpress or whatever09:15
ianmacgregorsmotang: You need to download the md5sum from the same website that you got planeshift from09:15
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Geoffrey2aoupi, ah yes, notepad :)09:15
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Wiseguyhey guys, how do i get xmms with mp3 support again?09:16
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variantsmotang: download the file and the md5sum and run "md5sum /path/to/downloaded/md5sum.md509:16
fournoone knows how to make svideo out work with ubuntu09:16
IgnatiusWiseguy: sudo apt-get intall gstreamer-lame or something09:17
variantfour: stop whining and look on google09:17
Ignatiustry apt-cache search first09:17
ianmacgregorWiseguy: It comes with mp3 support in the repos09:17
smotangI dont know how to download the md5 sum09:17
variantfour: is it a radeon?09:17
fouryes09:17
variantsmotang: it should be in the same directory as the other file you downloaded09:17
JewfroWiseguy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats09:17
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fourit is radeon09:17
smotanghttp://www.planeshift.it/download.html is the site where i got the original file from, i got it from the 3rd mirror for linux09:17
ianmacgregorWiseguy: If you install xmms from the repos, it already has mp3 support09:18
variantfour: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=radeon+tvout+linux&btnG=Google+Search09:18
Ignatiussmotang:planeshift works on me :)09:18
Ignatiusand I have inteegrated intel, sheesh09:18
Ignatius*-e09:18
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variantsmotang: if there was no .md5 file on that site then you cant use md5 checksumming to test the integrity of the file09:18
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bun-bunsmotang# the md5sums are right there on the page you just linked, just a bit further down09:18
roboenecesito ayuda please09:18
ianmacgregorsmotang: I am seeing that the md5sum is blank on the site :(09:19
roboealguien habla espaol?09:19
ianmacgregorbun-bun: Where?09:19
bun-bun!es > roboe09:19
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smotangdamn09:19
johanmullerok in synamic package manger which one do i choose09:19
bun-buneh.. it's right there09:19
roboehe hecho una instalacin de ubuntu09:19
Jewfrosmotang, get the file from where ignatiuis got his!09:19
bun-bunjust below the mirrirs09:19
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ianmacgregorbun-bun: For Linux?09:19
roboepero me pide usuario09:19
roboey no s qu poner09:19
ianmacgregorbun-bun: It's there for the .exe files but not for Linux09:20
hawaisurfhi just a simple question....my garbage bin desapeared from the Desktop..how can I put it there again?09:20
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variantjohanmuller: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats09:20
smotangWell that was weird... I tried to open it through desktop just then AGAIN and this time it worked...09:20
julianrobeo09:20
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bun-bunianmacgregor# i see what you're saying, that's what i get for jumping into a convo late :)09:20
juliancuando instalaste te pregunta el nombre del usuario09:20
ianmacgregorbun-bun: hehe09:20
variantBaco: this is an english channel09:20
julianque pusiste09:20
ianmacgregor!es > julian09:21
variantjulian: this is an eglish channel09:21
variantlol, english09:21
smotangOk, now it says i need to run it as root...09:21
ClayGanyone here own a HP lappy?09:21
juliani was trying to help someone09:21
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variantjulian: sure, but do it in the right chan09:21
julianshesh09:21
smotangIan any ideas?09:22
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variantjulian: this channel is busy enough in english :)09:22
ClayGhehehe julian, cheerleaders bugging you?09:22
ianmacgregorsmotang: You double-clicked it in nautilus and it worked?09:22
juliani just dont see the problem in  helping someone, that is the ultimate goal of this channel09:22
juliananyways09:22
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variantjulian: i agree, but if you combine all the different language ubuntu channels then this would be the least helpfull channel imaginable09:23
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smotangIt was a .bin file on my desktop, im using the gnome desktop i double clicked and it worked...09:24
ianmacgregorsmotang: Nautilus manages the desktop ;)09:24
JDStoneis it possible to use a specific package from teh edgy repos?09:24
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ianmacgregorsmotang: open a term and type:  gksudo nautilus  , then go to that file and double-click. But, be careful, that will be a nautilus window running as root.09:24
JewfroJDStone, do you mean a specific version?09:25
variantJDStone: I think you will need to enable the backports repo. i think thats how it works anyway09:25
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jendaAnyone here use bitlbee + google talk? How do you connect to that?09:25
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JDStoneJewfro, variant.  I want just the smartmontools package09:25
JDStonebecause it's a newer version09:25
Jewfrojenda, google talk words under gaim/kopete through the jabber protocol09:26
variantJewfro: i have never used bitlbee but the bitlbee website i just looked at tells you how to do it09:26
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JDStoneit's a newer version, yes09:26
JDStone5.36 instead of 5.3409:26
smotangthanks ian09:26
variantjenda: i have never used bitlbee but the bitlbee website i just looked at tells you how to do it09:26
jendaJewfro: yes, it is the jabber protocol, but has some server/port settings which I don't know how to set in bitlbee09:26
ianmacgregorsmotang: You're welcome :)09:26
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variantjenda: (so connecting to Google Talk is just a matter of account add jabber account@gmail.com password)09:26
smotanghow do i stop it from bein root?09:26
jendavalehru: aha, thx :)09:26
JewfroJDstone, you can specify versions using apt-get or aptitude, so long as it's in your repositories09:27
ianmacgregorsmotang: exit/quit the app09:27
variantJewfro: i assume you ment me, np :)09:27
ClayGhey has anyone here used a hp laptop with the brightview/glossy screen?09:27
smotangok thanks09:27
ClayGI'm buying one NOW and dont want to pay extra for something that I wont like as much09:27
ianmacgregorsmotang: And make sure you close that nautilus window as well09:27
JDStoneJewfro: that's the thing.  If I put it in my repos, I'll get everything else from the EDGY repos, right?09:27
smotangNow, I have a feeling that my 3d rendering is at the moment all software and not using my graphics card's hardware at all.09:28
JewfroJDStone, you could just download it in .deb format, then install....09:28
smotangif there any way to change that?09:28
JDStonehmm, true09:28
variantsmotang: depends what card you have09:28
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smotangnvidia 5200 i think09:28
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JewfroJDstone, not sure about the other question, try man aptitude :)09:28
juliananyone know if ntfs 3g driver will be included in edgy release09:28
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variantsmotang: you will have to install the proprietry nvidia drivers which is a shame as it is non free software09:29
JDStoneok, thanks Jewfro09:29
johanmullerok what do i do their09:29
ianmacgregorsmotang: Check the topic about nvidia drivers09:29
jendavalehru: umm... nope, Idon't think that's it... that works for connecting to jabber.09:29
jendaBut not google's jabber.09:29
Jewfrojohanmuller, where are you now?09:30
jendaerr... variant ^09:30
variantjohanmuller: who are you talking to? (include peoples nicks in conversations so they are highlighted -  for example: type var and press the TAB key)09:30
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variantjohanmuller: thats what it says on the bitlbee site09:31
smotangThat topic is in the ubuntu forums?09:31
johanmullerin the synapic package trying to install yahoo messenger09:31
ianmacgregorsmotang: type /topic09:31
variantjenda: thats what it says on the bitlbee site: http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.html ctrl f and type google09:31
JDStoneJewfro: will a package from here work: http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/s/smartmontools/09:31
Jewfrojohanmuller, you meaning trying to update gaim, click on the "mark all upgrades", and apply09:31
harrismhi everyone, for some reason nothing is showing on my desktop. Say for example I save a file to the desktop, graphically it will not show but it will in terminal. When I mount say my USB flash drive, it mounts but does not show on the desktop. I also cannot right-click the desktop? Any ideas?09:31
JDStoneJewfro: or is that only for debian?09:31
smotangthanks09:31
johanmullerok will do so09:31
jendavariant: strange, doesn't work for me.09:31
variantjenda: sorry :(09:32
JewfroJDStone, debian packages should work, assuming you have all dependencies09:32
jendaIt hits the authentication method: google uses tls09:32
ianmacgregorharrism: nautilus manages the desktop and it isn't running. try running nautilus or log out and back in09:32
jendavariant: np, and thanks.09:32
johanmulleri have done so what nexxt?09:32
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FlannelJewfro, JDStone, no.  debians repositories don't necessarily have binary compatability with ubuntu.09:32
variantharrism: could be the gnome desktop decorator crashing.. or are you using a custom command to set the background walpaper?09:32
jendavariant: aha, that's for a bzr branch of bitlbee, not the stable version.09:32
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Jewfrojohanmuller, did you download updates that fast? try gaim again09:33
harrismwell I rebooted but that did not seem to help. I recently installed XGL+Berly but that is working fine09:33
variantjenda: i see, perhaps you should switch?09:33
thoreauputicharrism: sounds like nautilus is not drawing your desktop _ try "killall nautilus" and see if it comes back09:33
JDStoneFlannel: how do I get the ubuntu EDGY package of smartmontools without updating my repos?09:33
johanmullerok will do so im on broadband that why09:33
Flannelharrism: ah, it's a XGL/whatever issue then.  ask in #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl or #xgl or whatnot09:33
jendavariant: nah, I'll just GFGI ;) found something already.09:33
variantjenda: CFGI?09:33
variantjenda: gl09:33
sven-tekHi! OpenOffice.org's impress crashes here on a dapper system. Where can i report it, or send my presentation that causes the crash09:33
FlannelJDStone: you don't.  Wait for edgy, or maybe it's backported, or compile yourself09:33
harrismkillall worked09:33
JDStonedamn, thanks Flannel, Jewfro09:34
thoreauputicsven-tek:  bugs.ubuntu.com09:34
harrismthanks for the help, but how exactly did this help?09:34
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variantJDStone: download the smartmontools .deb and run dpkg -i /path/to/tools.deb09:34
FlannelJDStone: you might be able to compile from edgy source, so still quasi package managed09:34
eetfunkis it just me or apt-get install python-psycopg2 doesnt work?  it's supposed to be in universe09:34
thoreauputicharrism: nautilus sometimes frgets to draw the desktop :)09:34
harrismso killall resets it? or stops it?09:34
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ianmacgregorharrism: nautilus manages the gnome desktop (icons, etc) and it screwed up somehow. When you killed it, it respawned and set things back to normal.09:34
thoreauputicstops and respawns it09:35
johanmullergaim has diconected me again09:35
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johanmulleron yahoo09:35
tmorrishow do I change the "Open With" application on certain files?09:35
variantJDStone: possibly yahoo network not gaim09:35
harrismI see, thanks. Well my usb icon changed into a text file icon :D but I can probably fix that in nautilus right?09:35
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Jewfrojohanmuller, hrmm, not sure what your problem is, check your user name/password09:35
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harrismok nevermind, it was a text file on top of the usb icon :D heh09:36
harrismthanks again for the help09:36
thoreauputicharrism: a usb icon should only show when the usb is actually mounted09:36
JDStoneFlannel: found it: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/smartmontools/smartmontools_5.36-6ubuntu2_i386.deb09:36
thoreauputicharrism: np :)09:36
Jewfrojohanmuller, or try this: http://messenger.yahoo.com/download/unix.html09:36
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variantJDStone: run dpkg -i ont hat file09:37
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JDStonevariant: how do i do that?09:37
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thoreauputicBaco: not here, please09:37
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JewfroJDstone, from terminal sudo dpgk -i xxx, xxx being your file name09:37
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variantJDStone: download it.. open terminal and type dpkg -i smartmontools_5.36ubuntu2_i386.deb09:37
thoreauputiccan anyone identify the language Baco is using?09:37
variantJDStone: you need to be root09:37
JDStoneoh, yeah, I did that09:38
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ianmacgregorthoreauputic: I think it's a bot09:38
JDStonedpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smartmontools:09:38
JDStone smartmontools depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however:09:38
JDStone  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.09:38
JDStone smartmontools depends on sysv-rc (>= 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu2); however:09:38
JDStone  Version of sysv-rc on system is 2.86.ds1-6ubuntu32.09:38
JDStonedpkg: error processing smartmontools (--install):09:38
ianmacgregorit keeps repeating09:38
JDStone dependency problems - leaving unconfigured09:38
vinboyhow do I enable Jmicron PATA/IDE support in kernel 2.6.18?09:38
JDStoneErrors were encountered while processing:09:38
JDStone smartmontools09:38
JDStoneoops, probably should have done pastebin09:38
thoreauputicJDStone: do NOT  paste09:38
thoreauputicindeed09:38
JewfroJDstone, okay being trying to resolve your dependencies, and try again09:38
JDStonesorry guys09:38
JewfroJDstone, begin I mean09:38
variantJDStone: you will need to do the same for those deps09:38
JDStonehmm, ok09:38
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ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.09:39
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JDStonehmm, maybe I'll just wait....  i'm going to bed for now.  when will EDGY be out anways?09:39
variantJDStone: its not the safest of options09:39
ReverseBladethoreauputic, selam09:40
variantJDStone: in a couple of weeks i think09:40
thoreauputicJDStone: oct 26 I think09:40
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variantJDStone: I am using it now.. it is very nice :)09:40
wrabbit^which is the latest ubuntu release?09:40
eetfunkcan anyone tell me why Universe doesnt work?  This is my sources.list file:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/fuI52a18.html09:40
variantweka: dapper09:40
JDStoneoh, even if it's in the next couple months, then I'll wait09:40
variantwrabbit^: dapper09:40
variantwrabbit^: edgy is development, out soon09:40
JDStonenight09:40
ianmacgregorJDStone: iirc, it's the 28th of this month09:40
JDStonethanks again09:40
variantJDStone: later09:40
wrabbit^variant: edgy is still available for dl though right?09:40
variantwrabbit^: yeah, i use it09:41
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variantwrabbit^: you can upgrade from dapper to edgy09:41
wrabbit^variant: I plan on it :)09:41
variantwrabbit^: change dapper to edgy in sources.list run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade09:41
upshs01anybody could help me what is happening to my progrm whenever i left my unit for a while, its been in a screen saver mode, its hanging, doesnt open, then what i do is to reboot, is it okay? does the system will not be affected09:41
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wrabbit^variant: sounds good.  Much change?09:42
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mneptonupshs01: change the screensaver to "blank screen only" instead of random09:42
levanderWhy is my clock always an hour or two off either way?09:42
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alumno01hello09:42
alumno02hola09:42
upshs01in what way and how could i do it09:42
alumno02ola k tl?09:42
alumno01mb09:42
variantwrabbit^: yeah, feels much slicker and faster. nice new theme updates too09:43
alumno01y tu09:43
BacoArt0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net09:43
alumno02como te llamas??09:43
BHSPitLappyalumno01, what are you doing, exactly.09:43
mneptonupshs01: System -> Prefs -> Screensaver09:43
BacoArt0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net09:43
ianmacgregor!es > alumno0209:43
levanderAnybody knows how to use the ntp commands appropriately?  My system is pretty much set up to default with that stuff.09:43
wrabbit^variant: awesome :) Might upgrade tonight09:43
variantwrabbit^: for the first time ever suspend and hibernate work on my laptop with edgy09:43
tmorris!ops09:43
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!09:43
BacoArt0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net09:43
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ianmacgregorthoreauputic: Can we kick Baco ?09:43
alumno01hello i am rosa09:43
variantcan somone kick baco please09:43
alumno02com te llamas''09:43
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BHSPitLappyHobbsee, don't stop there...09:43
variantcan somone kick baco alumno02 please09:43
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BHSPitLappyand 0109:43
ianmacgregorthanks Hobbsee, Madpilot09:43
sandy16how can i keep keyboard shortcut for a command?09:44
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ianmacgregorsandy16: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/KeyboardShortcuts09:44
upshs01ok thanks unepton, am i right?09:44
kholerabbiWhen I try install compiz I get "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  compiz-plugins: Depends: compiz-core (>= 0.0.13.54) but 0.0.13.38-0ubuntu3 is to be installed.09:44
variantwrabbit^: be aware though that there may still be a few bugs that cause you to reinstall, it's not perfect09:44
wrabbit^variant: as long as I don't lose my /home partition, I don't have any worries09:45
variantwrabbit^: it seems to work perfectly for me, i have used it for a month now09:45
Jewfrovariant, there's always bugs, any version))09:45
variantwrabbit^: that shouldnt be an issue :) back it up first though if you can09:45
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variantJewfro: true09:45
wrabbit^yeah, I will09:45
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tmorrishow do you "back it up"?09:45
Jewfrovariant, I just had to reinstall recently w/Dapper, my HDD started filling it self up, it was odd...09:46
varianttmorris: well, I recenlty made a live dvd of my installed ubuntu system using the script from www.linux-live.org09:46
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wrabbit^Jewfro: with what?09:46
upshs01another thing, ubuntu is not responding to my printer hpdeskhet 656c09:46
tmorrisvariant, does it recover the exact image of the system?09:46
Jewfrowrabbit^, I had to re-install Dapper09:46
upshs01also disk drive is not working as well09:47
varianttmorris: it turns your installed system into a live dvd, it is not an "exact image" as it has to make some changes to allow it to run from a dvd. but wont loose any files09:47
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eetfunkcan anyone tell me why Universe doesnt work?  This is my sources.list file:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/fuI52a18.html .09:47
varianttmorris: there are a lot of other backup programs that ar specifically designed to make exact copys09:47
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ianmacgregorvariant: Did you have to install anything for that to work?09:48
upshs01anybody could help me? my printer is not working with linux, hpdesjet 565c and my disk drive is not workable too.09:49
variantianmacgregor: the live dvd? yeah, unionfs and squashfs09:49
ianmacgregorvariant: Thank you09:49
variantianmacgregor: the system used is the same to make the slax livecd, the resulting cd/dvd is _very_ fast09:49
levanderAre these screen savers already included with Dapper?  He says they use OpenGL, but I've got ones on my system that are named the same and look pretty similar.  No way my hardware could handle OpenGL.  I just tried an OpenGL screen saver (started with a 'G') and it pretty much pegged my machine.09:49
variantlevander: what system do you have? (gfx card, cpu, mem09:50
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whysowhen will edgy be realsed non beta?09:50
mneptonOct. 2609:50
variantwhyso: 28th this month apparantly09:50
kholerabbipct 2609:51
variant26th*09:51
whysovery cool! ty09:51
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levandervariant: Matrox G400, dual PIII 550, w/ 528 MB RAM09:51
variantlevander: your system should easilly handle the 3d screensavers09:51
levandervariant: GLBlur, GLKnots, completely hose my system09:51
variantlevander: you just need to get 3d acceleration working09:51
upshs01this is non09:52
levandervariant: they run, but they peg the CPU09:52
variantlevander: in a terminal type glxinf | grep direct09:52
sven-tekonly if Matrox G400 is not a PCI card09:52
variantlevander: in a terminal type glxinfo | grep direct09:52
levandervariant: trying09:52
sven-tekif its a PCI card there is no Acceleration09:52
levanderdirect rendering: No09:52
levanderOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect09:52
leftjustifiedanyone know of specific problems accessing a secondary NTFS SATA HDD from an XP install under VMWare Server in Ubuntu? Very specific question, I know, but my XP box has been pwn3d and I've got 140GB of data on an NTFS drive that I must rescue, some of which will need XP apps :-/09:52
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variantsven-tek: that right?09:52
variantlevander: is it agp card?09:53
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levandervariant: i'm pretyt sure I lokoed into it awhile back, and X doesn't support hardware acceleration on the Matrox G400.09:53
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levandervariant: yeah, AGP 2x I believe.  It's not 4x.09:53
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variantlevander: you should be able to get it wroking then09:53
sven-tekright09:53
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levanderActually, my CPU is working pretty heavily now.09:53
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variantlevander: yeah, you dont have direct rendering so your cpu is having to do all the work and the gfx card does nothing09:54
sven-tekinvestigate into activating the DRI for matrox cards, should have several howtos in the net09:54
levandervariant: I'm about to switch video cards anyway, but thanks for info.  Real question was if those are the same screen savers included with the Dapper release.09:54
variantlevander: yep09:54
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levandervariant: cool, I remember reading about those screensavers a loooong time ago on anandtech.com09:55
variantlevander: http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/dri_driver_features.phtml#G200/40009:55
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sven-tekbye09:55
levandervariant: I couldn't get them installed on Linux back then, now Dapper has them already installed for me.09:55
variantlevander: hehe09:55
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Jewfroanyone ever program an FTA receiver on Ubuntu?09:57
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levandervariant: is ReadPixel and DrawPixel the complete DRI protocol?09:57
variantlevander: no idea09:57
levandervariant: that's what they say they support with the G400, those two09:57
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variantlevander: lol, not so good eh?09:58
levandervariant: they support something on the G400 anyway09:58
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ianmacgregorvariant: May I pm you?09:58
variantianmacgregor: yep09:58
levandervariant: I have no idea if it's godo or not, those two may be all DRI is.09:58
DraconPernargh... ubuntu installed grub in my mbr, and now I have lost some functionality for a dell laptop.. :(09:58
variantlevander: no, there is much more to it than that09:58
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levanderI've already bought an nVidia 6200.  I'll make sure to play with DRI after I install that.09:58
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wrabbit^variant: going to update now :)09:59
DraconPernif anyone has a dell laptop w/ mediadirect, I need the 3rd sector of the drive.09:59
wrabbit^variant: Will I have to reinstall drivers and codecs again or does it just upgrade the base system?09:59
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DraconPernTHe instruction on the website really need to indicate to use the alternate cd for dual boot10:00
variantwrabbit^: if you have proprietry graphics/wifi then you will need to reinstall tehm. audio/vid codecs will be part of the upgrade10:00
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DraconPerndoes the install process save the mbr somewhere?10:01
wrabbit^variant: alright, thanks.  nvidia drivers may need another install then10:01
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variantwrabbit^: yup10:01
tristan!beryl10:02
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.10:02
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wrabbit^may have to wait until there aren't any other machines on in the network. 600mb is quite large.  Don't want to hog the bandwidth10:04
wrabbit^unless there is a way to shape it10:04
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temptedhey there guys... can't sleep... i can't get my server to load php files, it just asks them to save them to file ... in firefox...  any help? i am a total noob when it comes to servers10:06
JewfroG'nite all......10:07
Smotanghello, have a problem. I recently tried to install the nvidia drivers for my vidio card and when i tried to configure them it came up with this:10:07
SmotangError: your X configuration has been altered.10:07
SmotangThis script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this10:07
Smotangnot correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following10:07
Smotangcommand:10:07
Smotangmd5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum10:07
Smotangotherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section10:07
Smotangfrom nv to nvidia.10:07
tristanhello there10:07
tristanNow that I moved to beryl from compiz my K menu is not transparent anymore, how can I get this back10:08
reddethHello, I'm trying to install linux to a pen/flash drive, using syslinux. I have extracted all neccissary files and when in the syslinux directory I try typing "syslinux -s /dev/sda1" and I always get a "Bash: syslinux Command not found". Am I missing something? Thank you10:09
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wrabbit^reddeth, make sure you have syslinux installed.  sudo apt-get install syslinux10:13
wrabbit^oh, you're gone10:13
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levanderIs ntp.ubuntu.com two hours ahead for anyone else?10:13
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levandervariant: how the hell did you know the URL for the exact place to look for how to get a Matrox G400 working with DRI?10:14
variantlevander: what do you mean?10:15
variantlevander: google10:15
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morphixis there any known resolution to the Jmicron controller issue? i compiled 2.6.18.1 kernel but i get other issues.10:15
levanderIs there a web page that will show me the time ntp.ubuntu.com is set to?  I can't figure out why "sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com" is showing a time on my machine two hours ahead of the real time.10:15
levandervariant: those are some mad google skillz10:15
morphixsystem is pretty much unusable atm :(10:15
levanderIt's wierd wiki.ubuntu.com works just fine with Firefox on Ubuntu, but Firefox on XP, I get all kinds of certificate warnings.10:16
variantmorphix: what issues would that be?10:16
variantlevander: no idea why that might be10:16
morphixvariant, the controller being totall unsupported by the latest kernel in ubuntu (2.6.15-27)10:17
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variantmorphix: apparantly you need to use all-generic-ide10:18
variantmorphix: in the kernel10:18
variantmorphix: at least to use the cd/dvd rom10:19
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variantmorphix: thats as far as i know so far10:19
morphixi dont have the cd/dvd rom issue.10:19
variantmorphix: what issue do you have exactly? you cant boot or what?10:19
morphixthat works.. its just the controller doesnt even show up as what it is10:19
morphixjust says unknown ide device10:19
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variantmorphix: what command do you run to get that information?10:20
morphixlspci10:20
variantmorphix: have you tried running update-pciids ?10:20
Smotangwhats the command to list what kernel you are using in bash?10:20
variantSmotang: uname10:20
Smotangthanks10:20
morphix0000:02:00.0 IDE interface: Unknown device 197b:2363 (rev 02)10:20
morphix^^^10:20
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levanderoh hell, ntp was right, i was wrong (looking at clock on other computer that I had had motherboard out for two days)10:20
levandergotta go to sleep...10:20
variantmorphix: have you tried running update-pciids ?10:20
morphixheh.. well that shows it as there10:21
morphixbut i still cant access any drives connected to it (2 hdds)10:21
variantmorphix: are they sata?10:21
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morphixno. ide10:22
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variantmorphix: what are youdoing to to access them exactly?10:22
morphixi cant access them in anyway10:22
morphixthey dont show in /dev or disk manager10:22
rhetti just put the 6.06 ubuntu cd in10:22
rhetthow do i get dual displays to work?10:22
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totall_6_7rhett: have you installed ubuntu yet?10:23
morphixall that is working is my system drive (sata) and my dvdrw drive (on the intel ide)10:23
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rhettno10:23
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totall_6_7then i dont believe you will get dual displays to work10:23
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morphixits getting to the point i might just go back to windows10:24
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HumanPrototypemorning all10:25
morphixi thought compiling 2.6.18.1 would work.. but it hangs upon boot10:26
ceerrffhow do i recompile the stock kernel, i don't need new kernel source10:26
HumanPrototypeceerrff: recompile your current kernel?10:26
ceerrffyeah, with some changes to the config10:26
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HumanPrototypeceerrff: i think you need the linux-source package for your kernel10:27
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HumanPrototypeceerrff: then you put it in /usr/src and link /usr/src/linux to it and there is a program for editing the options - i think there is a guide on the forums10:27
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ubuntuholadfsdf10:34
ubuntuhola10:35
jendaDoes anyone here use bip?10:36
jendawhoa, was that 9 minutes of near silence in #ubuntu ???10:36
rhettif i unstall ubuntu, does it help me back up old files?10:36
rhettfrom fedora?10:36
jendarhett: depends...10:36
jendado you have a seperate home partition?10:37
jenda/home, that is.10:37
rhetti don't think so10:37
jenda:(10:37
jendabaaad :)10:37
SilentDisone I learned the hard way myself hehe10:37
jendarhett: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"10:38
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variantmorphix: sorry about that, i was busy (at work)10:39
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variantmorphix: I will be with you in a couple of minnits10:39
morphixok.10:39
rhetti think my disk is /dev/hdc10:39
rhettjust boot and one more partition10:39
leftjustifiedis there a way to force eject a dvd drive in ubuntu?10:40
jendaok...10:40
morphixsudo eject10:40
leftjustifiedthanks10:40
jendarhett: in that case, I'm afraid you'll have to backup manually...10:40
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variantleftjustified: push a pin into the hole in the front10:40
leftjustifiedvariant: tried that. no luck10:40
jendarhett: you can back up to a new partition that you'll later use as /home10:40
variantleftjustified: what do you mean no luck? that litteraly forces the drive bay out10:40
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leftjustifiedit didn't10:41
BHSPitLappyhave you considered that the internals have all melted together10:41
leftjustifiedvarient: my laptop is cursed. I'm lucky it even booted :D10:41
variantleftjustified: lol, somtimes hard to hit the right spot anbd you may have to push quite hard10:41
variantlol10:41
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BHSPitLappytrue10:41
leftjustifiedall good now, sudo eject did it10:41
BHSPitLappyhaha10:41
jendaNobody uses bip?10:41
jendaaww10:41
BHSPitLappybip?10:41
SilentDisnever herd of bip.  what is it?10:41
BHSPitLappy!info bip10:42
ubotubip: multiuser irc proxy with conversation replay and more. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1 (dapper), package size 55 kB, installed size 192 kB10:42
richard_when is the next release of ubuntu?10:42
variantmorphix: as far as I can see the controller is supported10:42
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variantrichard_: 26th oct10:42
BHSPitLappysounds interesting10:42
thoreauputicrichard_: about oct 2610:42
morphixvariant, in dapper?10:42
BHSPitLappybut I don't feel like using it10:42
variantmorphix: what is the lspci output now that you updated the pciids?10:42
richard_i see... less than ten days ;)10:42
BHSPitLappyweek from tomorrow!10:42
richard_im kinda excited10:43
BHSPitLappyyeah10:43
leftjustifiedshame I have to fix a b0rked winbloze box tonight or I'd wait :(10:43
SilentDisi'm excited/scared about the new release.10:43
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morphixvariant, 0000:02:00.0 IDE interface: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI Controller (rev 02)10:43
BHSPitLappyleftjustified, "fix"? like, install ubuntu?10:43
richard_why scared?10:43
BHSPitLappythat's how I fix windows boxen these days10:43
leftjustifiedBHPPitLappy: bingo ;)10:43
SilentDisi'm in the middle of nowhere on dialup (nothing faster available, and $700 for satellite with 3000ms ping doesn't interest me)10:43
variantmorphix: and what kernel are you using?10:43
SilentDisi'm scared how many days it'll take me to pull :P10:44
morphix2.6.15-27.. the latest kernel you can get for dapper via aptitude10:44
BHSPitLappySilentDis, what about gprs?10:44
leftjustifiedBHSPitLappy: Flatten Primary; Install Ubuntu; Install VMWare Server; Install XP. hehe10:44
SilentDisgprs?10:44
variantmorphix: so, perhaps you have to upgrade?10:44
BHSPitLappySilentDis, or whatever it is, that you get from a cell provider.10:44
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nikinhy10:44
SilentDisno cell towers in my area that offer it.10:45
morphixvariant, upgrade to what? there isnt anything newer10:45
variantmorphix: edgy is very stable considering it's an development release10:45
BHSPitLappyman, you ARE in the middle of nowhere.10:45
SilentDisnot really, that's the funny part lol10:45
morphixvariant, edgy doesnt boot either.. no matter WHAT kernel parameters i use10:45
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rixthOK, khubd is using 100% CPU, has a nice value of -5, and won't even respond to a SIGKILL. How do I kill it?10:45
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SilentDisi'm 2 miles outside of a small 500 person town (no dsl).10:45
morphixvariant, i have to disconnect any devices connected to the intel ide controller to use edgy10:46
nikini try to connect my phone via bluetooth. but i cannot pair it coz Linux never asks for the pairing code...10:46
morphixvariant, which is stupid10:46
SilentDisi'm 20 min drive along the interstate to a super wal-mart/civilization/etc10:46
variantSorry mate, don't think I can help10:46
morphix:(10:46
morphixthis blows..10:46
variantmorphix: in future buy supported hardware10:46
thoreauputicSilentDis: interesting definition of civilisation there...10:46
HumanPrototypenikin: i think there is a text file in /etc somewhere with the machines code in10:47
variantmorphix: give it a couple of weeks. actualy, most other people seem to manage10:47
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morphixvariant, well nearly every asus boards i have bought.. has worked fine with ubuntu10:47
nikinHuman ty.. gona look around10:47
morphixvariant, yeh well i CANT manage without 2 of my drives10:47
SilentDisi'm far enough away that no one bothers me, and close enough that stuff is still conveniant.  i note the super wal-mart because it's the first thing off the interstate to the tourist trap it's in lol10:47
morphixthey have my work on them10:47
HumanPrototypemorphix: could you get a pci ide card and connect them on that instead?10:48
morphixHumanPrototype, i have no other card.. and no spare cash atm to grab one10:48
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morphixmight see if suse *shudder* works10:49
HumanPrototypemorphix: why do you need edgy? whats wrong with dapper?10:49
morphixHumanPrototype, controller card doesnt work in dapper (because the kernel doesnt support it)10:49
morphixapparently someone messed up the support for it..10:50
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morphixit detects.. but doesnt work10:50
nikinHumanProt: its working.. ty :D10:50
HumanPrototypemorphix: cant you build a new kernel from source on dapper10:50
HumanPrototypenikin: glad i cld help10:50
morphixHumanPrototype, i'm in dapper atm.. compiling the 2.6.18.1 kernel.. yet again10:50
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variantHumanPrototype: of course you can10:51
HumanPrototypemorphix: http://www.kernel.org10:51
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morphixHumanPrototype, i've already downloaded the kernel source. and am compiling right now, ive done this about 10 times already10:52
HumanPrototypemorphix: brb10:52
jenkinsanyone here know something about NIS ?10:53
jenkins<== looking for help NIS server and client10:53
variantjenkins: what do you want to know about it?10:53
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jenkinsI've read all the docs,10:53
jenkinsinstalled the software10:53
jenkinsset up the client10:53
jenkinsand server10:53
jenkinsyet it refuses to bind10:54
jenkinsto the domain10:54
nathalieik moet messengerlive hebben10:54
grubenpony!nl10:54
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl10:54
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jenkinsypbind to localhost works10:54
jenkinsypserv -p shows the connection from localhost10:54
jenkinsbut no other client can connect10:54
jenkinsiptables are flushed, no firewall10:55
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jenkinsping to server and to name respond10:55
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jenkinsany ideas ?10:56
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variantjenkins: not i sorry, somone else perhaps10:56
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xipietotecsomeone awhile ago had given me a command to force a root file check upon reboot, anyone know what it is?10:58
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variantxipietotec: the default is to do a fsck if you use shutdown afaik10:59
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xipietotecerr....I get a root file check every 30 mounts10:59
thoreauputicxipietotec:  sudo shutdown -h -F now  ( the -F forces a fsck)10:59
variantxipietotec: yeah10:59
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thoreauputicoops I mean -r not -h11:00
xipietotecoh, cool! thanks thoreauputic (writes it down this time)11:00
thoreauputicxipietotec: not -h ( that's halt)11:00
thoreauputicxipietotec: use -r to reboot, -F to force a fsck11:00
xipietoteccool cool! =) thankye11:01
thoreauputicxipietotec:  "man shutdown" is worth a look ;p11:01
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xipietotecI didn't think about shutdown, I was looking in fsck and e2fsck, and got waaaayyy confused.11:03
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wabbithi all. I've just been tryin to install the latest alsa drive and I get this error. configure: error: this packages requires a curses library11:06
variantmorphix: i found this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/5750211:06
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variantwabbit: apt-get install ncurses11:06
wabbitI have libncurses5 installed11:06
variantwabbit: hmm ok11:06
grubenponywabbit: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev11:06
morphixvariant, yeh.. i've already looked at that too11:06
wabbitthe ./configure takes a --with-curses argument. Do I pass a value here11:06
variantmorphix: so there you have your answer11:07
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variantwabbit: try what grubenpony suggests11:07
grubenponywabbit: if you compile something using a library, you need the -dev package for that library installed11:07
jenda_how the hell can I make bip work :(11:07
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variantwabbit: if still not working look at the output from the ./configure and see exactly what file it is checking for that fails11:07
variantjenkins: what is bip?11:07
antotero31076211:07
morphixvariant, there isnt really a resolution.. i have to install edgy and compile the kernel.. the problem there is.. i cant even boot edgy11:07
SilentDisbeddybye time.  g'night all11:08
variantmorphix: if its just hte kernel then why dont you use dapper and upgrade the kenrel?11:08
variants/kenrel/kernel11:08
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wabbitvariant: I'm giving that a try11:08
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morphixvariant, i would have to manually compile 2.6.17?11:08
variantmorphix: no, 2.6.1811:09
morphixvariant, i've compiled 2.6.18.1 many times and it still wont work11:09
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wabbitgrubenpony: thanks libncurses5-dev did the trick11:11
wabbitvariant: thanks11:11
variantwabbit: np, glad you got it working11:11
HumanPrototypehow do i set my gtk2 theme in fluxbox?11:11
Haesufinwhat could be causing slow internet connection if any in ubuntu?11:11
variantmorphix: sorry mate, guess your just going to have to wait till it becomes more stable11:11
variantHaesufin: programs which use the network running in the background11:12
morphixbrb.. trying the latest compile of 2.6.18.111:12
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variantHaesufin: how do you connect to the netowkr?11:12
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Haesufinsynaptic wont connect gaim wont, firefox barely11:12
Haesufini connect  via lan11:13
BadkittyStupid question: I installed a daily build of edgy... but it didn't ask for a login name only a password.. what would the default name be?11:13
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variantHaesufin: ok, is the internet connection an adsl modem or what? what kind of lan is it? are we talking 1000's of users or just you?11:13
Haesufini have a dlink dsl-504t11:13
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jenda_Does anyone use bip?11:13
Haesufinall my MS comp work fine11:13
variantjenkins: what is bip?11:14
thoreauputicBadkitty: odd - try "ubuntu" ?11:14
Haesufini think its dns11:14
BadkittyI did :-(11:14
variantHaesufin: does your router assign the dns server?11:14
variantHaesufin: do you use dhcp or static?11:14
thoreauputicBadkitty: so you can't login at all ?11:14
Badkittythats right11:15
Haesufini entered the dns addresses from the router into dns and search domain11:15
Haesufinyes11:15
thoreauputicBadkitty: bug report time.... bugs.ubuntu.com11:15
variantHaesufin: have you tried using dhcp?11:15
Haesufinyep11:15
variantHaesufin: most dhcp servers are configed to provide dns entrys11:15
Haesufinno good11:15
varianthave you tried static config?11:16
thoreauputicBadkitty: ask in #ubuntu+1 to confirm11:16
HumanPrototypeHaesufin: try setting a static ip and manually setting you dns server11:16
Haesufinif i enter a static address the i at least get a connection11:16
Haesufinbut its still slow11:16
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variantHaesufin: probably your dhcp server is borked.. or the router is some pos11:16
HumanPrototypeHaesufin: have you set the dns manually?11:16
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Haesufinvariant>i think so11:16
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BadkittyThanks... its OEM11:17
Haesufinyes i set it maually i think11:17
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Haesufini entered the dns addresses into the dns tab in networking11:17
HumanPrototypeHaesufin: are you on wireless or wired?11:18
Haesufinboth dns and search domain11:18
Haesufinwired11:18
variantHaesufin: what speed conneection do you ahve?11:18
Haesufinxubuntu gets the same result11:18
HumanPrototypeHaesufin: try opening a terminal and entering sudo ipconfig <interface> netmask <netmask> broadcast <broadcast>11:18
Haesufin51211:18
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morphixdoesnt work :'(11:18
thoreauputicHumanPrototype: *cough* ifconfig11:19
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HumanPrototypeHaesufin: then use sudo route add default gw <gateway address>11:19
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thoreauputicHumanPrototype: this isn't windows  :)11:19
jojo`bonjour tlm11:19
jojo`j'ai besoin d'aide11:19
thoreauputic!fr11:19
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:19
HumanPrototypethoreauputic: darn, and if im on a windows machine i norm try and use ifconfig. my excuse is im forced to use them at work11:19
thoreauputic:)11:19
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HumanPrototypeHaesufin: sorry if you didnt picl that up - thats meant to be ifconfig not ipconfig11:20
jojo`how to update apahce2 ?11:20
jojo`apache211:20
HumanPrototypejojo`: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade should update your system11:21
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Haesufinbrb11:21
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jojo`let me test11:21
variantmorphix: your out of luck then i suppose. unless your prepared to keep slogging away at it. give the linux prepatch version a shot11:21
variantmorphix: http://kernel.org/patchtypes/pre.html11:21
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morphixvariant, i've been compiling since 10am this morning.. and was doing it up until 5am yesterday.. its now 7:2211:23
morphixpm11:23
progekHello all, everytime I start my computer I need to-> sudo killall nautilus     in order to get my desktop working right. Will I basically need to include this line in my startup or is their a more elegant way?11:23
variantmorphix: thats what happens under these circumstances im afraid11:23
variantprogek: odd..11:23
jojo`HumanPrototype: do I need to restart ?11:23
variantprogek: your using dapper, upto date ?11:23
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HumanPrototypejojo`: just restart apache (sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart)11:24
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jojo`how can I check it's the last version ?11:25
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ircnewbHello im new to ubuntu, and i plugged in my usb memory jump drive, but ubuntu, won't show it11:26
ircnewbits on device manager11:26
ircnewbhow do i mount it or something11:26
jojo`still 2.0.5511:26
jojo`not 2.0.5911:26
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HumanPrototypeircnewb: try using disks under the administration menu11:27
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bimberi!info apache211:27
jojo`I need to install the last11:27
ubotuapache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB11:27
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jojo`tx11:27
jojo`thx11:27
HumanPrototypejojo`: then ubuntu doesnt have the latest version in the repos11:27
bimberijojo`: that's the latest in ubuntu11:27
bimberi(dapper)11:27
bimberi!info apache2 edgy11:27
variantircnewb: it should be an icon on the desktop11:27
ubotuapache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB11:28
bimberi(and edgy too :)  )11:28
ircnewbwell..its like my phone actually11:28
variantircnewb: what version of ubuntu you using?11:28
ircnewbwhen i use to plug it in to windows box11:28
ircnewbit would show it as a usb storage device11:28
variantircnewb: its your phone?11:28
ircnewbyea it has a memory card in it11:28
ircnewba sim card11:28
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variantircnewb: i see, you probably need gnoki211:28
jojo`I updated my packages with synaptic11:28
kling0nhow would I go about getting extra charset support for ubuntu? I have been looking at the results from 'apt-cache search locale' but wht I need is basically locale support for ISO-8859-1 for mount.cifs11:28
HumanPrototypeircnewb: open a term and use dmsg to find out what it is (sda, sdb etc)11:28
jojo`but not the last versions apache2 and PHP11:29
kling0n how would I go about getting extra charset support for ubuntu? I have been looking at the results from 'apt-cache search locale' but wht I need is basically locale support for ISO-8859-1 for mount.cifs11:29
HumanPrototypejojo`: then you will need to install them from another repo or download and compile from source11:29
jojo`I downloaded it11:29
kling0nnot sure whether that same out as a double-post ...11:29
jojo`I made ./configure11:29
jojo`but after ?11:30
ircnewbwhat command is that HumanPrototype11:30
ircnewb? dmsg11:30
ircnewbnewb here11:30
variantircnewb: open gnome-terminal and type dmesg11:30
bimberiubotu tell jojo` about compiling11:30
variantircnewb: imediatly after plugging in your phone11:30
ircnewbok11:30
HumanPrototypejojo`: there is normally an INSTALL file with instructions11:30
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variantircnewb: what make/model phone is it?11:31
HumanPrototypeircnewb: look for sda or sdb or something similar11:31
ircnewbe398 gsm phone11:31
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ircnewbis what device manager says it is11:31
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ircnewbbut its a motorola l611:31
HumanPrototypethen you can enter "sudo mount /dev/sd<whatever came out of dmesg> /media/phone"11:31
progekHey everyone, I compiled some opengl programs from Nehe and they run very slow. I know it's not my machine because i'm running XGL without a problem. Any ideas? :/11:31
HumanPrototypeircnewb: you may need to "sudo mkdir /media/phone" first11:32
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variantprogek: probably xgl is the problem11:32
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jojo`it doesn't find made command11:32
jojo`^^ :P11:32
HumanPrototypejojo`: the command is make11:33
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jojo`yeah I meant make11:33
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jojo`bash: make : commande introuvable11:33
progekvariant: Thanks, but I'm running an Athlon64 3700+ with a 3d capable nvidia card. I have direct rendering on and can play opengl games fine. It's just these examples from nehe. The example was like a spinning small block11:33
jojo`strange11:33
HumanPrototypejojo`: try sudo aptitude install build-essential then rerun ./configure before trying make again11:33
thoreauputicjojo`:  install the build-esential package11:33
variantprogek: what is nehe11:33
jojo`ok11:33
progekand also an example of a simple first person maze11:34
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variantprogek: xgl can still be the problem, it really doesnt matter how good your hardware is with xgl as it can interfere in very unexpected ways being alpha software11:34
vanhtu1987Hi, anyone answer this question please: How can I set the limit wrong-password attempts for sshd ?. I've been getting a lot of dictionary attacks lately. The man pages didn't show useful information.11:35
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variantprogek: and you use proprietry drivers from nvidia which is annother spanner in the works.. very hard to troubleshoot that kind of problem and not much to do to fix it if you find the problem11:35
ircnewbhey HumanPrototype, dmesg keeps saying something about bluetooth11:36
morphixanyone here compiled 2.6.18.1 kernel for ubuntu and wouldnt mind sending me their .config file?11:36
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vanhtu1987morphix: I did for the newest kernel, but what is keeping you from doing it yourself ?11:37
bionoidvanhtu1987: there is a sshd patch called timelox that will probably do what you want. Originally for openbsd only but linux port here http://www.overflow.no/stuff/ssh-4.4p1+timelox+chroot.tgz11:37
vanhtu1987bionoid: Thank you, I'm looking at it now.11:37
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morphixvanhtu1987, well i have compiled it MANY times and still gets errors booting up.. thinking maybe i chose something wrong in kernel config11:37
HumanPrototypeircnewb: do you have bluetooth on that pc?11:37
ircnewbunfortunally no :-(11:38
HumanPrototypeircnewb: does the phone?11:38
ircnewbyea11:38
variantvanhtu1987: this link might help you: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-October/060534.html11:38
bionoidmorphix: what happens?11:38
vanhtu1987morphix: Did you try 'make menuconfig' or 'make oldconfig' ?11:38
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vanhtu1987variant: Thanks.11:38
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HumanPrototypeircnewb: im not sure but i suppose it could be trying to use the phone as a usb bluetooth device...11:38
variantvanhtu1987: the problem is that he has an unssuported hardware which the 2.6.18 kernel has an experimental patch for11:38
ircnewb[17179607.920000]  sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda11:39
ircnewb[17179607.932000]  sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 011:39
ircnewb[17179608.740000]  Bluetooth: Core ver 2.811:39
ircnewb[17179608.740000]  NET: Registered protocol family 3111:39
ircnewb[17179608.740000]  Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized11:39
ircnewb[17179608.740000]  Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized11:39
ircnewb[17179608.824000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.811:39
ircnewb[17179608.824000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized11:39
ircnewb[17179608.884000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized11:39
progekvariant: sorry I got d/c. Did you get my last post?11:39
ircnewb[17179608.884000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized11:39
ircnewb[17179608.884000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.711:39
HumanPrototypeircnewb: dont post like that11:39
variantircnewb: please dont paste that here11:39
ircnewbwhoops11:39
ircnewbsorry11:39
HumanPrototypeircnewb: use www.pastebin.com11:39
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variantprogek: no, please repeat11:39
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HumanPrototypeircnewb: thats ok - just dont do it in future - if its more than one line then paste bin it and you will have a link you can give us11:39
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morphixbionoid, some errors trying to initiate ide controllers.. and such.. and randomly lucks up during boot.. such when loading ipv6 tunneling over ipv411:40
Haesufinno good: bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'11:40
ircnewbso its a sda drive i guess11:40
morphixvanhtu1987, tried using both11:40
troytroywoow been a while since i came to ubuntu :)11:40
HumanPrototypeircnewb:from the looks of it its picked it up as a bluetooth device and a disk11:40
progekok, well I'm running an Athlon64 3700+, 3D capable nVidia gfx card with direct rendering on. XGL runs fast and so do 3d games however some examples from nehe that I compile myself have extreme lag. Even simple examples like a small cube that just spins11:40
HumanPrototypeso its sda (first line of what you pasted)11:40
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ircnewbyea11:40
troytroyi have been trying suse and os tiger11:40
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ircnewbstick with tiger11:41
ircnewb:-)11:41
HumanPrototypeircnewb: so now try this "sudo mkdir /media/phone && sudo mount /dev/sda /media/phone"11:41
ChandyI want to know how the Debian pacakge search results page is coming11:41
tuqannhi, quick question, I want to get avg-free edition for ubuntu, there are three versions for linux, which one should I get from this list:11:41
tuqannavg71flm-r30-a0791.i386.rpm7.1.003011:41
tuqannavg71flr-r30-a0791.i386.rpm7.1.003011:41
tuqannavg71fls-r30-a0791.i386.rpm11:41
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troytroyircnewb: why stick with tiger?11:41
ircnewbcause its apple11:41
ircnewb:-)11:41
HumanPrototypetuqann: they are all rpms and really you want a deb11:41
ircnewband based on unix11:41
ircnewbunix pwns all11:42
Chandysorry ..Ubuntu package search results page is comibng11:42
HumanPrototypeircnewb: linux is based on unix too...11:42
DrSpinhow do I disable the kernel's AGPGART?11:42
troytroyanybody installed dapper on tiger via parallels11:42
ircnewbehh..but its not built on the unix kernel11:42
ircnewbisn't it its own kernel?11:42
DrSpinused to be /etc/hotplug/blacklist --- not there :/11:42
tuqannHumanPrototype: k, where should I look then, I'm very new to ubuntu11:42
fdovingDrSpin: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist11:43
Haesufinwhat does -->bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline' mean?11:43
vanhtu1987morphix: I'd be happy to send you the config file, but it probably doesn't help much.11:43
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morphixvanhtu1987, it would atleast giving something to base upon11:44
troytroyanybody installed dapper on tiger via parallels-desktop pls?11:44
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thoreauputicircnewb: the linux kernel actuall orks better than theOS-X mach kernel11:44
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thoreauputic*works11:44
jojo`still apache 2.0.55 :(11:45
ircnewbbut the eye candy of apple... (dr00l)11:45
DrSpinadded "blacklist agpgart" -- still loaded.... trying with both "blacklist sis_agp" and "blacklist agpgart"11:45
jojo`it's hard11:45
HumanPrototypeircnewb: its a fork and also - in case u hadnt worked it out - telling people not to use linux and that mac is better on a linux  forum isnt going to make you popular11:45
thoreauputicircnewb: http://xwinman.org  :)11:45
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DrSpinlinux on a mac :)11:45
HumanPrototypeircnewb: have you seen aiglx and beryl?11:45
tdnHow do I mount a cdrom iso that is contained in a .bin and a .cue file?11:45
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DrSpinperfect harmony11:45
Werdnum!ubotu11:45
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:45
thoreauputicDrSpin: I use linux on my iBook :)11:45
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DrSpin:)11:46
jojo`I 'm going to replace ubuntu with freebsd11:46
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ircnewbaren't those still in alpha stages?11:46
jojo`ubuntu sucks for web11:46
DrSpinI use it on my powerbook 3500C as a think client11:46
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variantjerb: for web? what does that mean?11:46
HumanPrototypetuqann: try searching the forums for a howto for avg11:46
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troytroywhat is subversion11:46
variantjerb: i use openbsd as a webserver, its very good and stable but i have found ubuntu to be simmilar in performance11:47
_Rappy_troytroy: is a version management system11:47
vanhtu1987morphix: Different computer specs would require different configurations, I'm running a Acer laptop, which is probably not what you want. The best route is based your new config file on the current config file of Ubuntu. Or, as variant said, perhaps that was your hardware that is incompatible with the new kernel. In that case a bug report may halp.11:47
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Werdnumwho coded ubotu?11:47
variantjojo`: for web? what does that mean?11:47
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Robertohello :)11:47
variantjojo`: i use openbsd as a webserver, its very good and stable but i have found ubuntu to be simmilar in performance11:47
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DraconPernis there a problem on updates?11:48
morphixvanhtu1987, yeh i know different specs, dif config.. i might just try oldconfig again11:48
variantWerdnum: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl11:48
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morphixvanhtu1987, i have compiled it so many times i'm beginning to give up..11:48
ChandyHey, What tools ubuntu is using to create and update its  website and wiki11:48
DraconPernI can't install any updates, it just says, download failed.11:48
troytroy_Rappy_: ok thanks11:48
vanhtu1987morphix: May you 'blindly' take the standard config file and compile the kernel right away ? It would give out some error but it'll ensure your new config stays closest to the current configuration.11:49
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DraconPernthis happens when doing sudo apt-get also...11:49
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morphixvanhtu1987, i'll see what that does then11:49
thoreauputicWerdnum: ubotu is a blootbot11:49
thoreauputic!info blootbot11:49
thoreauputichmmm no blootbot in ubuntu? interesting.....11:49
DraconPernyet I can do a wget...11:49
ubotublootbot: a severely modified infobot for IRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-4 (dapper), package size 242 kB, installed size 968 kB11:49
thoreauputicyes it is there..11:49
vanhtu1987morphix: Yup, good luck!.11:49
thoreauputic!blootbot11:49
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vanhtu1987morphix: I'd like to comment that using custom kernel might not be the best way, as you'll not benefit from Ubuntu updates and even may render your existing softwares incompatible, it's not worth the effort IMO, to gain a few CPU cycles. Unless you want some features not supported in the standard config.11:52
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t0taln00byo gyus and gals11:52
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grubenponyvanhtu1987: the standard config file is probably not the best choice, because you need to build a initial ramdisk to be able to boot. i always take the standard config and change things like ide/sata/ext3 to compiled into the kernel image (not as modules)11:52
kaptenguI can't add a web calendar in Evolution, I klick add webcalendar, but nothing happens11:52
kaptengutried to reinstall, but no change11:52
morphixvanhtu1987, i dont really want to customise it.. just want ubuntu to actually WORK on this pc with full support of all ide/sata controllers11:52
kaptenguanyone has experienced this?11:53
vanhtu1987grubenpony: It's good to know that, thanks, that's one of the reasons running a custom kernel is more touble than it's worth.11:53
vanhtu1987morphix: I see...11:53
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grubenponyvanhtu1987: well, it depends on your experience with building a custom kernel11:53
DraconPernso.. I need help, I don't know why software update can't download anything11:54
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grubenponyvanhtu1987: but in most cases, building an own kernel isn't needed11:54
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thoreauputicDraconPern: can you ping the archive server?11:55
vanhtu1987grubenpony: Yup, I've compiled for one desktop and my laptop, with many failure of course, but they're running now. May you give morphix some suggestions ?.11:55
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thoreauputicDraconPern: have you tried using apt-get or aptitude from a terminal?11:55
DraconPernthoreauputic: yes, I can ping it11:55
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DraconPernI can even download the failed file11:56
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thoreauputicDraconPern: what about apt-get then?11:56
morghanphoenixso, anyone on how to change ownership of paths?11:56
morghanphoenixchanging ownership of `/media/sda1': Operation not permitted11:56
thoreauputiceg sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade11:56
DraconPernapt-get fails11:56
morghanphoenixsudo chown phoenix.phoenix /media/sda111:56
thoreauputicDraconPern: have you tried changing mirrors ?11:57
DraconPernthoreauputic: it seems sudo doesn't have access to networking11:57
thoreauputicmorghanphoenix: /media dirs are owned by root - why are you changing them?11:57
grubenponyvanhtu1987: i don't know what his original problem is11:57
ChandyMay I know who is the maintainer for ubuntu website11:58
variantmorghanphoenix: what is your username?11:58
DraconPernthoreauputic: apt-get can't connect to any server11:58
morghanphoenixIt is owned by root, I had to manuallly mount it11:58
morghanphoenixphoenix11:58
thoreauputicDraconPern: umm... I don't follow you - what happens if you do  sudo -i to get a root shell, then run apt-get ?11:58
variantmorghanphoenix: sudo chown -R phoenix /media/sda111:58
variantmorghanphoenix: sudo chgrp -R phoenix /media/sda111:58
morphixgrubenpony, my original problem  is because currently dappers kernel has a problem with this >> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/5750211:58
TeemuRi just installed flash but it wont work when i go to youtube firefox tells me that i dont have flash installed. i also tried using google video it doesnt work either11:59
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morghanphoenixOperation not permitted.11:59
tuqannk, can anyone help me login as "root"11:59
DraconPernthoreauputic: it fails to connect to every server11:59
morghanphoenixto the whole recursive list11:59
thoreauputicDraconPern: OK - well I'm running out of ideas, sorry12:00
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grubenponymorphix: sorry, i have no experience with problematic sata controllers12:00
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morphixgrubenpony, apparently in 2.6.18.1 its fixed.. so all i need is a default kernel compiled.. one that actually works in ubuntu lol12:01
morghanphoenixIt's usb if that makes a diference.12:01
grubenponymorphix: so you just don't know which kernel config to use?12:01
morphixgrubenpony, pretty much12:02
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grubenponymorphix: and i don't know your hardware. so its not an easy task.12:02
morphixgrubenpony, my motherboard is a asus p5w dh deluxe, graphics card is nvidia 7600gt12:03
morphixi can compile it.. i just need a config which isnt buggered (which i think i keep messing something up)12:04
grubenponygruberman: board names tell me nothing. i need to know the sata chipset.12:04
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morphixgrubenpony, Intel ICH7, JMicron JMB363 & Sillicon Image 472312:06
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grubenponymorphix: hmm, no experience with one of those. i only know intel sata controllers.12:07
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morphixgrubenpony, well i am only using the intel ich7 sata and jmicron jmb363 pata12:09
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grubenponymorphix: yeah, but i simply don't know this jmicron sh*t12:10
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variantgrubenpony: it is not supported in anything below 2.6.18 and that support is alpha12:10
grubenponyvariant: omg12:11
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morphixits supported in 2.6.17 via a patch12:11
variantmorphix: where is the patch? i only ever heard somone sugest that that was a good idea.. not that it was available12:11
morphixgrubenpony, could atleast make me a config that works with intel ich7? i could work from that12:12
RobertoI just installed Monodevelop (0.12) from Ubuntu Edgy, but there is no component in the components palette... any idea?12:12
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grubenponymorphix: ich7 should be supported by either ata_piix or ahci drivers12:12
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variantRoberto: you might be best to ask in #ubuntu+1 and #mono12:13
dhqhow do i download all the files etc from my server using wget12:13
morphixgrubenpony, yes but can atleast make me a normal config? as i dont exactly know what to choose for everything else.12:13
grubenponymorphix: compile scsi support, scsi disk support and the sata driver (ata_piix or ahci) into the kernel (not as modules)12:13
variantdhq: via ftp: wget -r ftp://etcetc.org12:13
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variantdhq: via ftp: wget -r ftp://etcetc.org/*12:14
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morphixvariant, the patch is at http://distfiles.evolution-mission.org/sources/2.6.17/emission8/broken-out/031-jmicron-ide-2.6.17.patch12:14
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grubenponymorphix: i have a rather stripped down config for 2.6.17.1 here. i don't know if it suits the rest of your hardware though.12:14
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morphixintel hda audio. nvidia graphics.. thats pretty much it12:15
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variantBasic support for the JMicron ATA controllers. For full support12:15
variant+  use the libata drivers12:15
morphixcore 2 duo cpu12:15
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grubenponyvariant: libata is only the generic part of the driver12:15
variantgrubenpony: yeah, im just reading from the patch12:15
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morphixor if someone has 2.6.17 installed could they send me the config for it12:18
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dhqvariant: its a http12:18
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dhqvariant: when i use that command only the html and gif files copy i need all the files12:18
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grubenponymorphix: wait12:19
dhqWarning: wildcards not supported in HTTP.12:19
morphixok12:19
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grubenponymorphix: which network card(s)?12:20
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wrabbit^Hey guys.... I used automatix to install the nvidia drivers this morning.  Is that a no no considering the driver security problem that has arisen?12:21
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wrabbit^or does automatix install the nv drivers?12:21
mneptonwrabbit^: the binary drivers are included in Restricted12:21
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morphixoops12:21
mneptonwrabbit^: and using "nvidia" instead of "nv" is an "it's your funeral" type of thing12:22
morphixclosed xchat by accident.12:22
whyso_how do i change the default application for opening a filetype?12:22
wrabbit^mnepton: Is there a way to check which one I have installed?12:22
grubenponymorphix: which network card(s) do you have?12:22
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mneptonwhyso_: right-click -> properties -> open with12:23
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whyso_thanks12:23
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morphixgrubenpony, marvell yukon  88E8053 gigabit12:23
progekHi all, ok, I just compiled and ran a simple nehe opengl example which draws a flat triangle on the screen. This application among other examples take up 100% cpu usage. This is not normal is it?12:24
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whyso_but that doesnt change the type when i click on later12:24
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morphixgrubenpony, audio is realtek alc882m12:24
mneptonwrabbit^: which is installed, or which you are using?12:24
whyso_is there a terminal command to make the default open for a file type?12:24
wrabbit^mnepton: I don't know which one automatix2 installed for me.12:24
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=== mnepton wonders when people will stop using these ^&$&^%^(** scripts
mneptonwrabbit^: use Synaptic to check12:25
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wrabbit^mnepton: it's the first time I've used it.  I usually use apt-get12:25
whyso_hello12:25
mneptonand for the love of pete, never ever use automatix or easyubuntu or anything else ever again? :)12:25
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grubenponymorphix: http://chris.silmor.de/config-2.6.17.112:26
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wrabbit^can't check synaptic atm.  Using apt to upgrade to engy12:26
wrabbit^edgy12:26
wrabbit^isn't there a command line query to check?12:27
morphixgrubenpony, and i just rename that to .config and place in my /usr/src/linux dir, correct?12:27
mneptonwrabbit^: apt-cache search installed nvidia12:27
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Init5hey, I've installed fluxbox on my dapper, but I don't see any option on which window menager to run at boot.. how do I start fluxbox then?  :)12:27
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wrabbit^mnepton: gives me nothing12:28
morphixInit5, you use gdm?12:28
Init5gnome12:28
whyso_'hmmm azreus made a popup box and it wont go away...12:28
morphixInit5, no, gdm the gnome login? (the default)12:28
Init5yes12:28
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mneptonwhyso_: known bug in the current stable. get the beta.12:28
grubenponymorphix: 1. cd /usr/src/linux ; make distclean 2. copy the file under the name .config there 3. make menuconfig, change nothing, just exit with save, then make, make modules_install ...12:29
morphixit will have "session" on the screen12:29
whyso_k thanx12:29
morphixclick that then choose fluxbox12:29
whyso_mnepton: how do i make it so a file type is always (withotu right clicking and choosing) opened by a desired application?12:29
Init5morphix: but I can't even start fluxbox, I don't know how while running gnome12:29
variantdhq: wget -m will mirror a site12:29
variantdhq: it wont download scripts that are server side though, only the resulting output from those scripts12:30
morphixInit5, log out.. then on the login screen go to "session" then choose "fluxbox" then login12:30
dhqvariant: -m means all the files with directories etc rite12:30
morphixgrubenpony, ok thanks12:30
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dhqvariant: but i need thee scripts also12:30
Init5morphix: ok thanks a lot  :))12:30
variantdhq: it means mirror image, every file needed to display the site.. you might want to add recursion and spidering but be carefull12:30
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variantdhq: then you need local access to the server12:31
variantdhq: thats the point with server side scripts..12:31
dhqvariant: oh ok12:31
variantdhq: it's impossible to get those without "cracking" the site or being an admin/having ssh access12:31
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dhqvariant: k12:32
dhqvariant: even java scripts12:32
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Snake[Sleep] Will edgy's grub be able to detect vista on another partition?12:33
dhqwhy do people use windows when linux is so gr8 lolz12:33
HumanPrototypeSnake[Sleep] : If vista uses the same boot process and gubbins as win xp then yes12:34
Snake[Sleep] dhq, because its part of my job ;-)12:34
HumanPrototypedhq: because i can earn money by making access databases :D12:34
Snake[Sleep] HumanPrototype, alright12:34
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dhqbut most linux users and my self hate windows :(12:34
dhqbut if its your buisness i wont say anything :(12:35
Snake[Sleep] Then I think when edgy is released im going to wipe dapper and do a fresh install, and get vista then too12:35
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Snake[Sleep] Great plan snake12:35
Snake[Sleep] :-)12:35
HumanPrototypedhq: thats why i dont use it unless i have to12:35
whysocome on someone help :(12:35
pckim93How do you add boot parameters?12:35
omniusalls good12:35
dhqHumanPrototype: good for you :)12:35
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HumanPrototypeSnake[Sleep] : try with a beta? i think rc1 is online12:35
dhqhey i am using edgy12:35
Snake[Sleep] dhq, Games, DJing, and Troubleshooting is all I need it for. All else, linux can handle, and look good while doing it with beryl/compiz12:36
pckim93how do you add boot parameters while booting the desktop CD?12:36
Snake[Sleep] HumanPrototype, na ill just wait till the 24th12:36
Snake[Sleep] That is the release right?12:36
HumanPrototypeSnake[Sleep] : of vista?12:36
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Snake[Sleep] HumanPrototype, edgy12:37
e0500751hi @ all ;)12:37
Snake[Sleep] HumanPrototype, I have the RC2 of vista ;-)12:37
TLEisn't it the 26th12:37
TLE?12:37
Paddy_EIRESnake[Sleep] , its crap aint it12:37
pckim93How do you add boot parameters during startup???12:37
whysowhats this mean when trying to update? W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371812:38
Snake[Sleep] Paddy_EIRE, havn't installed it yet on a full system, just under vmware with beta1, at the time it just seemed like a resource hogging xp12:38
HumanPrototypePaddy_EIRE: language...12:38
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HumanPrototypewhyso: you need the gpg key for that repo - i think thats the plf repo so check their website12:38
morphixpckim93, in grub you can select the kernel you want to boot then hit e, then in kernel line press e then append your parameters to the end12:38
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e0500751are there any BTTV - experts in this channel ?12:39
pckim93I can't get to grub.  I have NO O/S installed.12:39
AJ1hello all, im 90% through getting m wireless to work12:39
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whysok thanx12:39
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HumanPrototypepckim93: then you need to install one and it will set up the boot stuff itself12:39
HumanPrototypepckim93: what are you trying to do?12:40
AJ1need some help with wireless, can anyone help plz?12:40
pckim93Hmmm... Installation is the main problem I'm having actually.12:40
L3TUC3how do I switch my cursor from a windowed game to my desktop?12:40
HumanPrototypepckim93: have you tried the alternate install cd12:40
wrabbit^Anybody know if there's a command line query to see which drivers you've recently installed?12:40
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pckim93I have ASUS P5B-VM motherboard (G965 chipset)12:40
pckim93I'm in the process of downloading it.12:40
HumanPrototypeL3TUC3: a linux game or a cedega game?12:40
L3TUC3linux12:40
pckim93Should I get the Intel version or the AMD64 version for Core 2 Duo?12:40
morphixpckim93, ugh.. there is known problem with your board.. i have a similar board (uses 975 chipset) and i have problems.12:41
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WandererAnyone know how to get ssh in ubuntu to use ipv6 by default?12:41
HumanPrototypepckim93: depends if you want the 64bit support - anybody else have a core 2 duo here?12:41
morphixHumanPrototype, i do12:41
whysohow do i change what program oppens an application by default?12:41
L3TUC3HumanPrototype: linx12:41
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HumanPrototypemorphix: and you are having to recompile your kernel atm arent you?12:41
L3TUC3*linux12:41
AJ1need some help with wireless, can anyone help plz?12:41
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HumanPrototypeL3TUC3: hmm, is it bound to the window? try Alt+tab12:42
pckim93morphix, have you been able to install it eventually?12:42
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morphixHumanPrototype, i am having to compile it because of the jmicron issue yes12:42
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HumanPrototypepckim93: will you be using ide drives?12:42
HumanPrototypemorphix: is that just ide drives?12:42
morphixpckim93, i can install it... as the 975 chipset uses intel ide for main ide12:42
L3TUC3HumanPrototype: tried it, but it doesnt seem to work12:42
morphixHumanPrototype, yeh need support for the ide drives12:42
whyso how do i change what program oppens an application by default?12:42
pckim93HumanPrototype, I have a SATA hard drive and an IDE CD/DVD-ROM drive12:43
mneptonwhyso: i answered that 20 minutes ago12:43
HumanPrototypeL3TUC3: maybe the game had blocked alt tab12:43
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HumanPrototypemorphix: so is it ok with ide optical drives?12:43
morphixpckim93, there is a work around to getting the cdrom to work with it.. just a sec and i'll get it12:43
L3TUC3HumanPrototype: ut2k4?12:43
pckim93morphix, thanks.12:43
AJ1need some help with wireless, can anyone help plz??12:43
HumanPrototypepckim93: morphix has the same mobo and cpu so ill leave you with him if thats ok12:43
totall_6_7whyso: what type of file are you trying to get to open with what program12:43
morphixHumanPrototype, its ok with on my intel ide.. but not jmicron ide12:44
whysomp312:44
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morphixi have similar mobo.12:44
morphixnot the same chipset12:44
morphixsimilar issues tho12:44
HumanPrototypeL3TUC3: sorry - im not that familiar with native games as I dont play much and I use cedega12:44
whysoi hit right click and open with, but next time just reverts back to other program12:44
mneptonwhyso_: right-click -> properties -> open with12:44
pckim93HumanPrototype, thanks.12:44
mnepton(x2)12:44
whysok ty12:44
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pckim93morphix, yes, it's not quite the same... is there any BIOS settings I need to change?12:44
mneptonwhyso: and that's the second time you have thanked me for the exact same information12:44
HumanPrototypewhyso: select which you want with the radio buttons and it will use that by defauly12:45
HumanPrototypes/dfauly/default12:45
L3TUC3ok, what is the minimize command then?12:45
whysoyeah, i know i did wrong thing first time12:45
morphixpckim93, not that i am aware of.. trying to find the guide of getting dvd/cd rom drives work on your chipset mobo, is your mobo the gigabyte one?12:45
pckim93No, it's ASUS.12:45
HumanPrototypeL3TUC3: maybe alt f11 i think but im not sure12:46
morphixthe p5b12:46
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pckim93Yes, it's P5B-VM12:46
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AJ1guys really need help can anyone offer some plz12:46
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HumanPrototypeAJ1: tell us the prob and i will help if i can12:46
totall_6_7!question12:46
AJ1HumanPrototype : thanks man12:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:47
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morphixpckim93, mines the p5w dh.. anyway.. look at this for your problems. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support12:47
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AJ1HumanPrototype : ok i have got my wireless 90% setup and if i type iwcofig, i get all my device stuff up12:47
AJ1HumanPrototype : but it says "Acess Point Not Associated"12:47
pckim93This is my exact box (except with 2GB of RAM instead of one):12:47
pckim93http://www.a-power.com/product.php?productid=2600&cat=459&page=1&ssid=577c9b5fb5c5f74cb8111e955bad374e&store_language=US12:47
AJ1HumanPrototype : i need to know how i set this up in ubuntu12:47
cpk2AJ1: you trying to connect with ad-hoc or managed mode?12:47
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AJ1cpk2 : in english plz :)12:48
mneptonAJ1: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome12:48
cpk2AJ1: you connecting to a router?12:48
morphixpckim93, so its pretty much using kernel parameter "all-generic-ide irqpoll"12:48
AJ1mnepton : i dont have wireless working on my ubuntu one yet, im on a laptop running windows to get in here12:48
mneptonAJ1: WAP or WEP?12:48
AJ1PSK12:49
mneptonAJ1: that's WPA.12:49
AJ1mnepton : is that good or bad12:49
AJ1mnepton : or should i choose another method?12:49
pckim93I don't know how to pass that parameter...12:49
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mneptonAJ1: set your WAP to use WEP, use the stabdard GNOME network config to connect, install network-manager-gnome, then revert to WPA-PSK12:49
mnepton*standard12:50
AJ1mnepton : how do i install that, is it in by default?12:50
mneptonAJ1: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome12:50
cpk2mnepton: how is he to apt-get if he cant use the internet?12:50
AJ1mnepton: i dont have internet access on my ubuntu machine, will it still install?12:50
mneptoni just told you how to get internet access12:51
AJ1ive used ndisgtk and ndiswrapper to get this far if that means anything12:51
mneptonAJ1: set your WAP to use WEP, use the stabdard GNOME network config to connect, install network-manager-gnome, then revert to WPA-PSK12:51
AJ1mnepton : ok how do i set it to use wep12:51
AJ1mnepton : is that in the router?12:51
mneptoni don't know. it's *your* router. ;)12:51
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AJ1mnepton: lol12:52
HumanPrototypeAJ1: open a terminal and enter iwlist scan12:52
AJ1HumanPrototype: ok12:52
GhostFreemanHow would I uninstall Xubuntu and all of its included applications?12:52
AJ1HumanPrototype: ok it says loads of text12:52
HumanPrototypeAJ1: it should tell you about your ap12:52
AJ1HumanPrototype: cell 01 mode managed12:52
morphixpckim93, download the edgy beta alternate cd.. and when the initial "boot or install ubuntu" screen press F6, it should show a box in the bottom right hand corner.. enter what i said there12:52
AJ1ok HumanPrototype and mnepton im goin to change this router setting, ill get discon but be right back ...12:53
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pckim93Thanks, morphix.  I'll try that.12:54
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morphixpckim93, hope yours work.. as mine isnt :(12:54
morphixbrb12:54
HumanPrototypeAJ1: then use sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid (your essid) mode managed channel (channel) enc (encryption key in hex)12:54
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pckim93morphix, so dapper alternate won't work?12:54
morphixpckim93, apparently not.12:54
morphixbrb.. gotta try something12:54
pckim93morphix, thanks.12:55
mneptonHumanPrototype: iirc, that will not work with WPA-PSK as it does not correctly invoke wpa-supplicant12:55
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Tjoelsyo12:55
Tjoelsis it absolutely neccessary to use the nv driver instead of the nvidia one?12:58
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cpk2Tjoels: no12:58
mneptonTjoels: only if you care about your machine not being compromised12:58
Tjoelshehe12:58
Tjoelswell, how big are the chances?12:58
mneptonbigger every day12:59
Tjoels:P12:59
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GhostFreemanHow would I uninstall/remove Xubuntu from my system?12:59
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mneptonall it takes is rendering a font. from a web page, a document, a terminal window .... anything12:59
byteshackhas someone installed nx successfully?12:59
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NormalIs there a program that I can get that'll look at my system and make a kernel that'll run ubuntu with it?12:59
mneptonGhostFreeman: the entire system or just XFCE?12:59
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morphixhmm12:59
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GhostFreemanjust Xfce01:00
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mneptonGhostFreeman: apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop01:00
LeeJunFanwell, be ready for the confusion. Some dip wrote in his blog that 6.10 was available and digg is running it.01:00
wdamnwhat live version of ubuntu should I run on an intel macbook?01:00
variantdhq: javascript is part of the html page normally, or in a seperate file. you should be able to get that01:00
cpk2LeeJunFan: lol01:01
GhostFreemanthanks mnepton01:01
variantwdamn: i guess the x86 one but im not certain01:01
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mneptonwdamn: i38601:01
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byteshacknxclient deb package requires libstdc++2.10, and that is not on the repo, what can I do?01:02
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wdamnvariant, mnepton : I know, I meant: do I need an updated version of 6.06?01:02
variantwdamn: nam01:02
variantwdamn: nah01:02
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NormalI need to make my on kernel, as any 2.6.15+ refuse to boot , and I can't install a graphics driver on 2.6.12-901:03
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TjoelsWhen i update my repositories list, i get this error about a key: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27195/01:03
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wrabbit^Anybody know how to find out which graphics drivers you have installed via the command line?01:04
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L3TUC3how would I figure out what type of pc cards my card bus can handle?01:05
Tjoelslook in xorg.conf01:05
NormalIs there anyone with kernel advice? Is it possible to make a kernel for Ubuntu? Or use one from another distro?01:05
wrabbit^Tjoels: good idea, thanks01:05
bimberi!kernelcompile01:06
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild01:06
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Tjoelswrabbit^: u welcome :P01:06
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mneptonNormal: why would you want to do that?01:07
byteshackNormal: as far as I know, sure, you can make a Kernel for Ubuntu01:07
samiTjoels, write this to commandline: gpg --recv "KEY"; gpg --export --armor "KEY" | sudo apt-key add -          ...without quotes01:07
byteshackand most probably you can use another distro's kernel01:08
wabbitHi all. I am using dapper ubuntu and have just compiled and installed the latest alsa 1.0.1.13 driver lib and utils packages following instructions from http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+HD-audio+and+modem.&chip=ICH6%2C+ICH6M%2C+ICH7%2C+ESB2&module=hda-intel but when I cat /pro/asound/version it displays 1.0.10rc3. Am I missing something?01:08
wrabbit^hmmm.... should I be worried? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27197/01:08
Tjoelsall in one command?01:08
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byteshackthe only tricky thing might be installing the thrid party kernel on your ubuntu system appropiately01:08
Tjoelssami: all in one command?01:08
byteshackie. might need some grub tinkering01:08
samiyes01:08
Tjoelssami: should the "KEY" be the name of the key i want to add?01:09
mneptonwrabbit^: yes. you are using the vulnerable driver.01:09
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Tjoelssami: or just KEY01:09
wrabbit^mnepton: is there a way to uninstall it?01:09
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mneptonwrabbit^: just chnage "nvidia" to "nv" on that line and reboot01:09
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samigpg --recv F120156012B83718; gpg --export --armor F120156012B83718 | sudo apt-key add -01:09
Tjoelswrabit^ or just ctrl+alt+backspace01:10
samithat should work01:10
wrabbit^mnepton: it's as simple as that?  but wouldn't that just be changing the name and not the actual installed drivers?01:10
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mneptonwrabbit^: the vulnerability exists in running the driver. not having it installed.01:10
Tjoelssami: is that the number that it said from the error output i posted in pastebin?01:10
wrabbit^ah, ok, I think I get it.  Well that's cool.  So is there a way to pause the dist-upgrade I have running?01:11
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samiyes01:11
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cpk2using propietary nvidia driver is a vulnerbility?01:12
Tjoelssami: cool, thank you!01:12
bionoidcpk2: Yes, fixed in latest version I think01:12
samiis it working now01:12
samino problem ;)01:12
cpk2bionoid: fixed in latest nvidia driver? I dont see how it could have  been a big hole?01:13
Tjoelssami: yeah, it is. thanks! :P01:13
mneptoncpk2: it's a very dangerous hole.01:13
mneptonand there is a fix in the beta, but that driver only works on Edgy, and only for ~10% of people.01:14
mnepton(it is a beta, after all)01:14
Tjoelswhat? is there an update to the nvidia driver that fixes the bug?01:14
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wrabbit^So there's no way to pause an apt download?01:14
mneptonTjoels: nothing you want to use.01:14
Tjoelsoh01:14
Tjoelsi see..01:14
boink!tell boink about easysource01:14
boink!tell boink about easysource01:15
Tjoelssami: how did you put together those commands, alle from your hear or a guide or something? ;P01:15
Tjoelsall*01:15
Tjoelshead*01:15
Zer0Ry0k0I have spent the last 5 hours trying to get FreeCiv to run, the current problem I'm stuck at is01:15
Zer0Ry0k0checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.2.1... no01:15
Tjoelsargh, i hate typos01:15
wrabbit^ok, how about this.  Will restarting during a dist-upgrade screw up the install if I start it up again after a reboot?01:16
mneptonZer0Ry0k0: did you instal via apt-get/Synaptic?01:16
Zer0Ry0k0and then it checks for all older versions and says I don't have GTK+ installed correctly01:16
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Zer0Ry0k0synaptic mainly...01:16
SeanTaterboink: ubotu just left01:16
mneptonwrabbit^: interrupting an update is a very dicey proposition01:16
Zer0Ry0k0I don't know if I succufully installed anything with apt-get01:16
wrabbit^mnepton: then I'm screwed until it's done01:16
mneptonwrabbit^: close your eyes and think of england01:17
wrabbit^mnepton: rainy weather and gloomy days?01:17
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mneptonwrabbit^: women with thick ankles and pies made of roadkill01:17
Zer0Ry0k0I would copy the whole error message, but it's nearly 10 lines01:17
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wrabbit^mnepton: sounds like heaven.01:18
mneptonZer0Ry0k0: sudo apt-get install freeciv01:18
mneptondone.01:18
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Tjoels<Zer0Ry0k0> use pastebin01:18
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wrabbit^seriously though, there's only 3 hours of the upgrade to go01:18
wrabbit^should beo k01:18
Tjoelshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/01:18
Tjoelswhen is edgy released?01:19
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SeanTater!schedule > Tjoels01:19
SeanTaterTjoels: just a few days01:19
Tjoelscool01:19
bimberiTjoels: Oct 26 is the target01:19
Tjoelsubotu is not here.01:19
Tjoelslol01:19
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bimberiubotu is down atm01:19
Tjoelsok, cool :)01:19
SeanTaterTjoels: so I;m noticing01:19
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Zer0Ry0k0Tjoles, now click download as text?01:20
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Tjoels<Zer0Ry0k0> what?01:20
Zer0Ry0k0the pastebin01:20
byteshackis there a way to see which packages I installed  manually and which packages got installed as a result of a dependency?01:20
gunfuswhat is the latest kernerl for ubuntus?01:20
Zer0Ry0k0I pasted it, pressed okay and it'st ill a block of text01:21
Tjoels<Zer0Ry0k0> yea? welll just give the link to the pasted stuff in this channel together with ur question01:21
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Zer0Ry0k0ohh01:21
Zer0Ry0k0okay01:21
Tjoels:)01:21
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Zer0Ry0k0How do I get FreeCiv to run? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27201/01:22
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Zer0Ry0k0I've been dealing with this for too long, I should be in bed 3 hours ago01:22
MatiiIs there a way to convert .png files to .xpm files?01:23
mneptonZer0Ry0k0: sudo apt-get install freeciv01:23
eyedol_gunfus, 2.6.17-10-38601:23
Zer0Ry0k0yeah, I tried that and it says...01:23
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Zer0Ry0k0couldn't find package01:23
Tjoelsupdate ur repositories01:23
gunfuseyedol, how can I pick up that kernel because my update hasn't found it yet01:23
mneptonZer0Ry0k0: enable Universe and Multiverse01:23
eyedol_Madeye, yes01:23
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Madeyeeyedol, sorry ?01:24
Zer0Ry0k0with the Update Manager?01:24
eyedol_Matii, yes01:24
Madeyeah :-)01:24
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Matiieyedol_: What is the program to do that called?01:24
eyedol_gunfus, is in edgy01:24
eyedol_Matii, gimp can do that01:24
Zer0Ry0k0I probably should go to bed, I can barely think01:24
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Matiieyedol_: thanks01:25
eyedol_Matii, no problem01:25
Zer0Ry0k0if this isn't going to be easy... I'll get to it tomorow01:25
MatiiZer0Ry0k0: it is easy01:25
Zer0Ry0k0k, thanks01:25
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gunfuseyedol, so just go find it using synaptic, but is weird how my autoupdate hasn't pickuped  the new kernel.. is it supposed to?01:25
eyedol_gunfus, are you on dapper?01:25
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gunfusyes01:26
jch"Assume an element of a group, x, has order rs. Find the order of x^r." Advice?01:26
nahojhere is something I can't understand: When connected to the network in my school running Ubuntu I never get speeds over 80kb/s. But when I tried to connect via VMWare - server running WinXP the speed easily went over 400 kb/s. The connection to internet is DMZ.01:26
Nothing_Abouthey i need some help01:26
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eyedol_gunfus, that is why, the new kernel is in edgy01:26
eyedol_gunfus, I'm on edgy01:26
Nothing_Abouthow do i put or add files to my usr folders as an admin01:26
gunfusohh01:26
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Zer0Ry0k0yeah, I tried that and it says: E: Couldn't find package freeciv01:26
webbenwould it be possible to run two sessions of gnome, logged in as a different user in each, switching between them with ctrl + alt + fX ?01:26
gunfuseyedol, hmm okay.. so I guess I got to go read to see how I upgrade01:27
Zer0Ry0k0Tjoles01:27
Nothing_AboutWhenever i try and copy paste a file within my usr share folder it asks for admin privilages01:27
Zer0Ry0k0err..... I meant to type the name before that line....01:27
eyedol_gunfus, shouldn't be that difficult01:27
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Nothing_Abouthow do i get my admin rights working so i can put stuff in folders01:27
gunfuseyedol_: yeah..01:27
eyedol_gunfus,  edit your source.list file and change all dapper to edgy01:27
mneptonZer0Ry0k0: go do a google serach for "add repository ubuntu"01:27
Zer0Ry0k0okay, thanks01:27
screechingcati want to know how to brun multisession discs in gnomebaker01:27
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gunfusubotu tell gunfus about source.list01:28
louis_gunfus sudo update-manager -c -d01:28
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Zer0Ry0k0is it a bad thing to install things you don't need01:31
Zer0Ry0k0?01:31
samiTjoels, i did have that problem too a few weeks ago and i found some guide from internet..01:31
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Tjoelssami: okey. but thanks ;)01:32
eyedol__Zer0Ry0k0, why install something you don't need, isn't that was of disk space01:32
samiTjoels, no prob!!01:32
eyedol__Zer0Ry0k0, why install something you don't need, isn't that waste of disk space01:32
Zer0Ry0k0well, not that I'm going to install everything there is, but I installed things with the same name just to makre sure I wasn't missing some files in there which were needed (and that was the case a couple times tonight)01:32
Tjoelssami; :P01:33
Zer0Ry0k0so yeah, now the apt-get install freeciv works01:33
Zer0Ry0k0omfg..01:33
Zer0Ry0k0there went 5 hours of nothing basically.01:33
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AJ1HumanPrototype : hey man you there01:33
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AJ1HumanPrototype & mnepton : i rebooted ubuntu now my wireless adapter wont start when i do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper01:34
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Zer0Ry0k0wow, just wow.    Thanks for telling me to enable the world of repositories01:35
AJ1anyone know why after rebooting ubuntu my wifi usb wont fire up when i do modprobe ndiswrapper?01:36
gunfuseyedol_: anything that I had to do after that?01:36
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AJ1anyone? help plz01:38
AJ1:S01:38
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wrabbit^hey guys... cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver also works. :)01:38
martinHi, how do I get openoffice to print to the kde printer?01:38
hmrochahello01:38
acusteranyone know how to make an eacute in ubuntu?01:38
acusteron a us keyboard01:38
hmrochai'm trying to customize the dapper livecd01:38
hmrochahow can i change de default keyboard mapping to pt_PT?01:39
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webbenacuster: it varies, but you know there's a character map don't you? (Applications -> Accessories)01:39
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webbenacuster, also check out Character Palette for the panel01:40
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CholitoI'm trying edgy for a few days and I was wondering how to downgrade firefox to 1.X so I can install some extensions, any ideas?01:40
reonIs  /etc/rc.d/  something from 2.4 kernel days ???01:40
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gunfuseyedol_: anything that I had to do after that?01:41
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AJ1mnepton: hello01:41
eyedolgunfus, sudo aptitude update01:41
eyedolgunfus, then after that sudo aptitude dist-upgrade01:41
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samianyone upgrade dapper to edgy.. is there any known problems?01:42
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gunfuseyedol, thanks that is working away01:43
Cholitosami, I'm using it right now and it's working ok01:43
Cholitosami, I can't install FF extensions thou01:43
samiany dependency problems?01:43
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Cholitosami, not yet01:44
samiok01:44
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gunfuseyedol_: and if later I want to get the source for the kernel..?01:44
gunfuseyedol_:  or that will also get updated..?01:44
samimaybe i will wait couple weeks.. ;)01:44
sami..for upgrade!01:45
acusterwebben, thanks01:45
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acusterI need to figure this out for good someday01:45
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Cholitoso, anyonw knows how to downgrade firefox?01:46
webbenacuster: if you go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout options and fiddle with the settings for Compose key and Third-level key01:46
webbenacuster, you out to be able to get an eacute sequence01:46
webben(e.g. for me i press right alt + ' then e for e acute01:46
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webbens/you out/you ought/01:47
acusteryeah01:47
djuussWhat window manager does Xubuntu use? and can i just apt-get it from a normal ubuntu install? (i'm looking for a lightweight window manager to use on my second xserver, just for games)01:47
acusterI fiddle around once in a while01:47
acusterand then upgrade and everything breaks ;-)01:47
samidjuuss, xfce401:47
djuussthx sami01:47
samiopenbox is much lighter01:47
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gunfuseyedol_:  or that will also get updated..?01:48
acusterwebben, when I copy a character from the  Character Map, what encoding is it in?01:48
acusterthe locale's?01:48
webbenacuster: hmm, not sure, i do /everything/ in UTF-8 to avoid that sort of question01:48
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tuqannHi, how can I change the owner of a folder?????01:49
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acusterwebben, HA! got it gedit is being too smart for my own good.01:49
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acusterwebben, thanks again01:49
djuussi already installed Kubuntu over Ubuntu, but i think both GDM and KDM are running. How can i stop GDM from running at boot?01:49
webbenacuster, no problem01:49
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AJRreally need help with wg111t and ubuntu01:51
AJRanyone?01:51
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AxordCholito: have you tried the Nightly Tester Tools extension to "upgrade" your extensions instead?01:52
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Alscorpion##php01:53
gunfuseyedol_:  or that will also get updated..?01:53
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L3TUC3if I were to get a pcmcia wireless card, what should I keep in mind?01:54
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overriderthere are so many network bandwidth analyzers, would you recommend ntop , mrtg, bandwidthd, iptraf or what?01:54
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AJRreally need help with wg111t and ubuntu01:55
AJRHumanPrototype: you around mate01:56
gunfuseyedol:   or that will also get updated..?01:56
AJRguys why does unplugging and plugging back in my wifi adapter crash linux?01:57
gunfuseyedol: sorry.. the message got cut.. I was asking if doing the update, if it will also update my source dir01:57
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AJRsomeone please help if you cna01:59
AJRthis is irritating01:59
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AJRi had my wg111t working, i rebooted, now sudo modprobe ndiswrapper doesnt work anymore ... any ideas?02:00
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tunacould someone tell how to change the default window manager?02:01
onurxI installed ubuntu on my laptop(widescreen), now it supports just "1024x768" and "800x600" , I need "1280x800" how can I configure this?02:01
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tunaoops, not window manager but display manager. I think02:02
morphixonurx, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file02:02
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gunfuseyedol: sorry.. the message got cut.. I was asking if doing the update, if it will also update my source dir02:03
morphixtuna, in gdm (the login screen on a default install) click "session" then choose what display manager you want, then login, it should ask you if you want it to be the default session02:03
rem64hi all02:03
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eyedolgunfus, no it shouldn't02:04
vanhtu1987onurx: You want high resolution in console mode or in X ?02:04
gunfuseyedol: can I get the command to update my source later..?02:05
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[GuS] Hi prople... after upgrade today of proftpd... has problems to start the service02:05
tunamorphis: the login screen is kdm now, and it doesn't ask if it should be default02:05
[GuS] i use proftpd-mysql package02:05
eyedolgunfus, what source are we talking about here?02:05
cefever since switching back to the nv driver, my system is quite laggy in video performance.. any suggestions on what to check? also how do I stop the nvidia kernel module loading automatically at boot (without removing restricted modules that is)?02:06
gnomefreakgunfus: sudo apt-get update   updates the sources.list to look for new updates (it doesnt change the list)02:06
[GuS] i have this error when i try to start proftpd service:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'server.gdnet.com.ar' error: No address associated with hostname02:06
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vanhtu1987cef: Try uninstalling the nvidia binary blob.02:07
AJRneed some help with ndiswrapper plz anyone help?02:07
cefvanhtu1987: you mean nvidia-glx? gone already02:07
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CholitoAxord, thanks for the extension, but the problem is with the extension as is not compatible with ff2.002:08
variantCholito: you using edgy?02:08
Cholitoyes02:08
vanhtu1987cef: You may then remove/rename the kernel module, it doesn't hurt to do it.02:08
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variantCholito: ask in #ubuntu+102:08
AJRWould a reboot cause ndiswrapper to lose its config?02:08
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cefvanhtu1987: yeah I guess..02:09
variantAJR: :)02:09
AJRvariant : lol hey02:09
AxordCholito: the version of NTT I'm looking at seems to be good for FF2 to 302:09
Cholitovariant, thanks02:09
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CholitoAxord, I'm talking about tmp02:10
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cefbbk02:10
byteshackis there a text mode www browser that supports ssl/tls?02:10
byteshackso that you can, for instance, login to a gmail account from a putty connection?02:10
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AxordCholito: The purpose of NTT is to force extensions to be installed on "wrong" FF versions02:10
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AxordWell, one of the purpsoes anyway02:11
grubenponybyteshack: i think links can to ssl02:11
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byteshacklet me check that, links2 couldn't02:11
grubenponybyteshack: maybe newer w3m can do it too02:11
j2daoshanyone in here have wine installed?02:11
variantbyteshack: lynx, links, links202:11
byteshackgrubenpony: I'll try w3m02:11
CholitoAxord, somehow it breaks ff202:11
eyedolj2daosh, yes but I hardly use it though02:11
variantbyteshack:  it can, i use it for gmail all the time02:11
byteshackvariant: they don't seem to do ssl, at least not the binary ones02:11
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AxordCholito: awww. Ok.02:11
byteshackvariant: which one specifically?02:11
vanhtu1987byteshack: IMO w3m with tabbed browsing is the best of all.02:12
variantbyteshack: links202:12
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j2daosheyedol: i have an application i believe may have a a virus binded to it. i want to open the program using wine02:12
CholitoI guess I can't just install ff1.5.x02:12
j2daoshi have installed wine,wine-dev,libwine,libwine-dev... but i cant get it to configure... how do i do that02:12
variantCholito: yeah, remove firefox2 and download the firefox 1.5 .deb and use dpkg to isntall it02:13
morphixj2daosh, winecfg02:13
variantj2daosh: just run wine02:13
byteshackvariant: and you just use the default compiled version that comes with dapper of links2?02:13
vanhtu1987variant: The version of links2 in the Ubuntu tree doesn't support TSL by default, AFAIK.02:13
Cholitovariant, gnome depends on ff2.002:13
variantbyteshack: i use edgy02:13
byteshackCholito: nice nick :) You from southeramerica?02:13
j2daoshok got it up... lol cant use putty have to be at the desktop for it appartantly :(02:13
byteshackvariant: ah..02:13
eyedolj2daosh, wine applicationname.exe02:13
Cholitobyteshack, Peru 8)02:13
byteshackCholito: cool, where from?02:14
CholitoLima ;o)02:14
variantj2daosh: putty has a linux version, why not just use the terminal though02:14
morphixssh ftw02:14
Cholitovariant, that's why I can't just uninstall ff2 and install ff1.502:14
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variantCholito: i see, install ff1.5 into a chroot, bit of work but should be fine. will take a bit of time to set up the chroot though02:15
Cholitoi know...02:16
Cholitothanks =)02:16
byteshackw3m rocks ;)02:16
AJRsomeone here must be able to help with this ndiswrapper problem i have02:16
grubenponybyteshack: it does :)02:16
AJRanyone??02:16
cefok, removed the nvidia driver from the disk, rebooted just to be sure, and it's still horribly slow. mainly scrolling (eg: up/down in firefox, other apps too).02:16
HumanPrototypeAJR: search the wiki for a guide on ndiswrapper02:16
AJRHumanPrototype: ive followed the guide thats how i got it working02:17
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HumanPrototypeAJR: from memory start at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Driver/Wifi02:17
grubenponybyteshack: already found the settings page with "o"?02:17
AJRHumanPrototype: its after reboot it doesnt work now?02:17
Cholitolol02:17
HumanPrototypeAJR: is the module loaded on startup? try ndiswrapper -m when its working02:17
vanhtu1987cef: The vn driver doesn't support 3D Acceleration.02:17
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Cholitovariant, I just downloaded the ff*.tar.gz untar it and execute it and it works02:17
variantCholito: gj02:18
cefvanhtu1987: who's talking about 3d.. this is plain 2d stuff and it's dog-slow02:18
byteshackgrubenpony: just did02:18
AJRHumanPrototype: i never did the modprobe -m stuff and i rebooted02:18
AJRHumanPrototype: now when i typed before sudo modprobe ndiswrapper - worked and it flashed - now typing it doesnt do anything02:18
AJRHumanPrototype: same as now it doesnt list wlan0 like it did before the reboot02:18
HumanPrototypeAJR: you needto make sure the ndiswrapper module is loaded on startup and i think the guide covers that02:19
vanhtu1987cef: That's pretty much all it can do, from what I perceived.02:19
cefvanhtu1987: lag of up to 2 seconds after a mouse click on a scroll bar before the screen updates02:19
AJRHumanPrototype: ok ill go have a look ...02:19
AJRHumanPrototype: wouldnt sudo modprobe ndiswrapper load it though?02:19
HumanPrototypeAJR: can you ge it working by using sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?02:19
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cefusually it's about 3/4 of a second, but sometimes it's just ages02:19
AJRHumanPrototype: it worked before i rebooted eah02:19
HumanPrototypeAJR: that only loads it now - it wont be loaded next boot02:19
AJRHumanPrototype: after reboot .. that doesnt work02:19
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q-tipSo shall I upgrade to 6.10 ?02:20
vanhtu1987cef: That's much slower than it should be, what web pages were you browsing ?02:20
HumanPrototypeAJR but if you type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" will it work now?02:20
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AJRHumanPrototype: nope02:21
cefvanhtu1987: pretty much anything.02:21
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rambo3AJR depmod -a && modprobe ndiswrapper02:21
vanhtu1987cef: The performance would drop drastically if the pages contain Flash or heavy gif/jpeg files.02:21
AJRrambo3 : you want me to type that in?02:21
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rambo3AJR you need sudo02:21
lexamI'm going to upgrade to 6.10 but not until the 26th when it comes out with the final release02:21
HumanPrototypeAJR: ok, redo the guide then dont reboot and type in "sudo ndiswrapper -m" to set it to load on startup02:22
cefvanhtu1987: from theregister to news sites to anything. it's not restricted to web browsing.. affects kmail, evolution, even xchat02:22
davvsif i have a bunch of files in a folder, how can i see which ones that are unique? that is they're not hard links of each others02:22
AJRHumanPrototype: ok02:22
AJRrambo3: i did that and nothings happened02:22
vanhtu1987cef: Did it work fine when you first install Ubuntu ?02:22
HumanPrototypeAJR: I dont have that much experiance with it - i just tried it a few days back but in the end used edgy which supported the card02:22
AJRrambo3: it just moved onto the next line of the terminal02:22
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AJRHumanPrototype: ok thanks for your help mate02:22
cefvanhtu1987: I don't remember.. that was back in the days of Hoary02:22
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cefvanhtu1987: and I seem to remember the first thing I did was install the nvidia binary driver02:23
vanhtu1987cef: I'm afraid I can not help if it has anything to do with compatibility, if the nvidia 3D driver package (from their site) is not causing you problem (it does to me though - unstable for some people), try using it.02:23
kisyam/msg nickserv register <your-password>02:24
ReverseBlademsg nickserv identify car@l!um02:24
ReverseBladeopps02:24
cefvanhtu1987: see the topic as to why I uninstalled it.02:24
cefReverseBlade: yeah. oops02:24
kisyamsorry02:24
byteshackReverseBlade: auch :)02:24
vanhtu1987cef: The nv driver should not causing troubles even in 1280x1024x32, as far as I know.02:24
HumanPrototypeReverseBlade: well we know your password now... quick! try ssh!02:24
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ReverseBladeI was just  bluffing :)02:25
ReverseBladethat was intentional02:25
ReverseBladelol02:25
HumanPrototypeReverseBlade: at least u have letters, numbers and symbols in there :D02:25
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cefvanhtu1987: 1440x900x32 at the moment, so yeah02:25
{_-IcE-_}wow cool... 874 users helpin on ubuntu :p02:25
lexamYes of course it was heh heh... must kill them all now.02:25
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ReverseBladelol02:25
morphixhere is just a quick kernel compiling question, currently when i add a custom version name to my kernel in kernel config, when booting, it looks for /lib/modules/2.6.18.1 instead of /lib/modules/2.6.18.1custom ??02:25
kisyamHi all, i am new beginner to linux, if i want to update the kernel, are the programs (that i've installed at ubuntu) is broken|02:25
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ReverseBladekisyam, what? how ?02:26
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kisyami am using breezy02:26
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ReverseBladekisyam, ohh, mostly not02:26
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kisyami want to update to dapper02:26
Rondom{_-IcE-_}: well, more users that can write something => higher chance that your question won't be read, because it scrolls away so quickly...02:26
ReverseBladekisyam, programs who depends on linux-headers will be broken, an example vmware02:26
ReverseBladekisyam, mostly you will be safe02:26
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vanhtu1987cef: Sorry for not be able to help you any further. If reducing the resolution/bitrate works, perhaps that's your video adapter could not handle screen resolution that big.02:27
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ReverseBladekisyam, go for it02:27
{_-IcE-_}hehe true true... im new to ubuntu... hope i wont be too much hassle02:27
kisyamyes, thank you02:27
cefvanhtu1987: well it's the same size as before.. and since it's an LCD, going lower is not an option02:27
ReverseBladekisyam, you can always revet back to the old kernel, it appears a  menu option on the grub02:27
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Nookieplease need help... i have followed and installed my ati graphic card 1000 times before but now when im trying to install it i get mesa issue all the time... im running now also 2 monitors02:27
{_-IcE-_}just trying to setup my server... first propblem is proftpd wont accept rootlogin even tho i set RootLogin on in the conf02:27
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{_-IcE-_}is it some prob related to ubuntu?02:28
ReverseBladeNookie, your computer's brand and model ?02:28
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ReverseBlade{_-IcE-_}, yes it is02:28
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{_-IcE-_}any way around it pls ReverseBlade ?02:28
dsdghi there, very new to ubuntu, checking it out now after doing my first install this morning, was running gentoo but moved over because i hear xgl and ubuntu is easy?02:28
dsdgdamn i kinda miss gentoo, now that is one sweet os!02:29
NookieReverseBlade:   intel 1.4 ghz ,512 MB ram =) Ati radeon 980002:29
lob22i just installed 5.10 and when i go to make my wireless card live it does it and then when i go to go on the internet nothin happends02:29
Alakazamz0rdsdg, Gentoo is overrated.02:29
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ReverseBladedsdg, easiest for XGL is SUSE02:29
teferrai wanted to uninstall the laptop supprt from my desktop and every thing uninstalled. No x nothing no nothing. only the balck and white screen clean linux. can i restore my ubuntu with apt-get short of re installing? or is there any other way?02:29
kisyamReverseBlade : thanks02:29
ReverseBladeNookie, machine's brand name ?02:29
Alakazamz0rdsdg, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX02:29
dsdgReverseBlade: hmm, cool, gonna give ubuntu a try, see how it handles ;)02:29
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NookieReverseBlade: i build it my self02:29
dsdgAlakazamz0r: thanks mate,02:30
vanhtu1987cef: High resolution for a 3D driver is not an issue (as you said you first installed nvidia-glx back then), but it should'nt be a surprise when using the default nv driver.02:30
ReverseBladeNookie, what is your resolution ?02:30
lob22can someone help me out02:30
Alakazamz0rno problem dsdg02:30
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ReverseBladedsdg, it is painful believe me, but go for edgy if you really want02:30
Nookie1280x1024.. running now on dual screens...02:30
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saifhello, does any1 here know how to add page numbering in openoffice?02:30
{_-IcE-_}can any1 tell me if there's any way around logging in to proftpd as root on ubuntu pls :) ?02:30
saifi can't find the damn thing!02:30
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ReverseBladelob22, what's wrong02:30
ReverseBlade!ask > lob2202:30
kisyambut now, i am still waiting the dapper CD . so right now i am using breezy, i've got a problem in detect my internal winmodem. i have scan my modem (using scan Modem from linmodem.org) but they told me to download the c compiler, where can i find the c compiler ?02:31
variant{_-IcE-_}: don't run it as root02:31
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marcusgrazettehey i'm having a problem installing WASTE the p2p software. i think i have to type "make waste" but when i do i get an error saying "nothing to be done for 'waste'"02:31
saifno1? please i really need this i removed windows, and need to print my graduation thesis! :S02:31
lexamsaif i have open office for dummies if you would like I can DCC it for you02:31
kisyami have installed the breezy since 2 days ago (so really new :))02:31
variantmarcusgrazette: your compiling the software?02:31
ReverseBladekisyam, sudo apt-get build-essentials02:31
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lob22ReverseBlade i just installed 5.10 and when i go to make my wireless card live it does it and then when i go to go on the internet nothin happends02:32
ReverseBladelob22, 5.10 ? why ? why not 6.06 ?02:32
morphixmarcusgrazette, after doing ./configure if it completes with no errors do, make, then sudo make install02:32
saiflexam, no, no need, i just need to know how to do it, quickly!02:32
parthano cd perhaps02:32
lexamI'm sorry I don't know how just figured the book would let me see if I can search it.02:32
ReverseBladelob22, try to ping your router02:32
marcusgrazettevariant: i'm not sure if i have to, all that was in the zip file i downloaded was a file with the mime type application/x-executable called waste02:32
lexamIt was how to do page numbering right?02:33
variantsaif: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=open+office+page+numbers&btnG=Google+Search02:33
lob22ReverseBlade thats the free cds i have02:33
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marcusgrazettevariant: no extention or any clue as to what i should do to install it02:33
ReverseBladelob22, just download the 6.06 from web, don't bother it02:33
ReverseBladelob22, 6.10 will be out in 12 days02:33
kisyamReverseBlade: just type the "sudo apt-get build-essentials", so i can type the command line of "make" too?02:33
lob22nice02:33
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lexamOk Saif found it02:33
Nyto-RJim luving 6.0602:34
lob22if i went to order the new free cds would thay send them to me02:34
ReverseBladekisyam, it installs a c  compiler , dunno about your problem but prolly the answer is yes02:34
amitjhaany one help me? too new to UBUNTU02:34
kisyamReverseBlade : i am online in cybercafe, so i can practice ur advice directly02:34
Nyto-RJinstalled yesterday02:34
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ReverseBladelob22, not anymore, why not download ?02:34
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kisyamReverseBlade : thanks02:34
parthaamitjha, shoot your question02:34
variantmarcusgrazette: type make && sudo make install02:34
saiflexam i found a lot of stuff about compicated page numbering, but no simple1! how?02:34
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parthaand wait for people to answer02:34
ReverseBladekisyam, yw02:34
marcusgrazettemorphix: typing ./configure gives "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"02:34
lob22ReverseBlade i am goin to download it now02:34
ReverseBladelob22, download 6.1002:34
ReverseBladelob22, not 6.0602:35
saiflexam, hehe, i think i found it!02:35
saiflet me check!02:35
variantsaif: we are not paid support staff, stop ordering us around02:35
amitjhapartha: trying to install mail server using postfix but...02:35
lexamOk cool02:35
lob22iight will do02:35
lexamYou have to do it in the header or footer02:35
teferrai wanted to uninstall the laptop supprt from my desktop and every thing uninstalled. No x, no nothing. only the balck and white screen clean linux. can i restore my ubuntu with apt-get short of reinstalling? is there any other way?02:35
marcusgrazettevariant: that gives "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."02:35
variantmarcusgrazette: you need to un tar the sorce code you downloaded02:35
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variantmarcusgrazette: look, there are a few basic steps to compiling software02:36
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HumanPrototypeteferra: so you want it back to normal?02:36
teferrayes02:36
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Nyto-RJThe Official Ubuntu Book is good for the beginning of learning Ubuntu!!!????02:36
lexamSaif I figured it out02:36
variantmarcusgrazette: 1, untar the software and "cd" to the untarred directory. 2, run ./configure IN THIS DIRECTORY. 3, type make. 4, type sudo make install02:36
saifvariant, i'm sorry but i didn't feel i was ordering any1 around! it's simply that this page numbering is not working!02:36
lexamreal easy are you still there?02:36
lob22ReverseBlade Ubuntu aint out yeat02:36
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lexamOk Saif go to insert header02:37
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HumanPrototypeteferra: i think you should be able to use sudo aptitude install ubuntu-base02:37
saiflexam, ok,02:37
lexamThen go to insert fields and choose page number02:37
ReverseBladeteferra, just uninstall gdm, then you can reinstall it when ever you want02:37
lexamthat's it02:37
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teferragdm is gone02:37
ReverseBladelob22, 6.10 isn't out but there's a beta you could download. 12 days left to go, so I suggest to go with 6.10. 6.06 is just fine02:38
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ReverseBladeteferra, then what is the problem ?02:38
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davvshow can i see where(what blocks) a file is on the disk?02:38
HumanPrototypeReverseBlade: teferra has removed everything so its in a similar state to a server install i think02:38
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marcusgrazettevariant: i unziped the file i downloaded, cd to the unzipped dir, then tried running the commands u mentioned and got the error messages i pasted. inside the unzipped dir there were 2 files, licence.txt and waste, if it was tar ed there would be a file ending with .tar or .tgz or somthing like that right?02:39
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gnomefreakReverseBlade: 9 days02:39
lexamSaif did that work for you?02:39
variantmarcusgrazette: what is the software you are installing?02:39
saiflexam! ur an angel! thanx a lot! i probably would have figured it out in my normal state, but i have only slept for 9 hours since friday02:39
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lexamI understand anytime :)02:40
Nyto-RJIm having problems with mp3 on amaroK, just with it, totem is playing mp3 fine... I read the site, installed some packages, but still doesnt working....02:40
saiflexam :) yes! i can't believe i wrote a grid computing application, and can't figure out ow to add a page number! :S02:40
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marcusgrazettewaste, waste.sourceforge.net02:40
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gnomefreakNyto-RJ: did you install libxine-extracodecs02:40
lexamLOL that's ok I would barely be able to write the "Hello" application in basic.02:40
Nyto-RJcouldn find it02:40
Nyto-RJi tried02:40
teferrawill try installing ubuntu-base02:41
Nyto-RJbut it says its gone02:41
saiflexam, thanx again, i'm going to print it! goodluck to me!02:41
cappeI can't synaptic dc++ cause Penguin Liberation Front is down, what do you suggest me to do??02:41
gnomefreakNyto-RJ: its in multiverse with all the other mp3 codecs02:41
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boinkcappe: PLF is avaible on other sites02:41
HumanPrototypecappe: wait02:41
boinkeasysource gives the wrong site, idiots02:41
Nyto-RJi should change universe to multiverse02:41
Nyto-RJis that???02:41
gnomefreakboink: i was the right site until PLF changed over02:41
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boinkeasysource spits out rubbish02:41
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Nyto-RJbecause i changed to download and install NVU02:42
gnomefreakNyto-RJ: no add multiverse to the end of the lines that end in universe02:42
nrdbI am trying to install a perl module it is saying it needs 'cups-config' where can I find it?02:42
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kisyamanyone know,where can we identify our toshiba laptop model/type at Ubuntu? i didnt find it in device manager02:42
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Nyto-RJso will be something like -> universe multiverse02:42
Nyto-RJat the ende02:42
gnomefreakNyto-RJ: yes02:42
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Nyto-RJok02:42
Nyto-RJwill try02:43
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cappeHumanPrototype: I am able to connect to the server now but it "cannot find the file requested"..02:44
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HumanPrototypecappe: have you sudo aptitude updated/02:44
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kisyamReverseBlade:sorry,asking again, i found this message "The kernel was compiled with gcc version 3.4.5 and a compiler is not installed", when detect my winmodem. where can i find the gcc compiler?02:45
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variantkisyam: apt-get install build-essential02:46
cappeHumanPrototype: yes.. ftp.free.fr dappar/non-free server responded: Failed to open file."02:46
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ReverseBladekisyam, type gcc -v02:46
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kryptozHi all02:47
ReverseBladekisyam, at below there should be gcc version02:47
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ReverseBladeI can't believe how many noobs migrated to Ubuntu from windows. That's excellent02:47
Nyto-RJstill returning this message:02:47
cefok trying to remove the nvidia kernel module on this system is being a pain. I've deleted the module, but after a reboot the module is resident and loaded. only thing I can guess is that it's in the initrd02:47
Nyto-RJPackage libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate02:47
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kryptozi have a terminal problem. When i login to my netscreen firewall, i am not able to use the backspace to delete.02:47
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kryptozanyone knows a solution02:48
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kisyam^^'02:48
lexamReverseBlade I'm one of those Noobs02:48
ReverseBladekryptoz, this is not a ubuntu problem02:48
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cappekryptoz: try ^D to Delete a character02:48
kisyamme too02:48
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lexamI've tried installing Linux before Redhat, Suse, etc and it was complicated till I found Ubuntu02:48
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ReverseBladelexam, I am also a noob. But I started feel knowledgeable because there are noober people here :)02:48
{_-IcE-_}can some1 suggest a good but easy to setup mail server pls? (imp to have also webmail support)02:48
variantkisyam: try using a different terminal02:49
Nyto-RJgnomefreak:02:49
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gnomefreakyes?02:49
lexamlol true02:49
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Nyto-RJstill not working02:49
variantkisyam: netscreen junos sucks balls02:49
M_A_KWhat is the simplest way to make a backup of my home dir (preserving everything links, perms etc) onto an external drive.  I do not need compression, have tons of space.02:49
lob22ReverseBlade lol02:49
lexamI found Ubuntu by sheer luck on Cnet it had a tutorial on how to install it.02:49
gnomefreakdid you run sudo apt-get update?02:49
Nyto-RJforgot02:49
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Nyto-RJsorry02:49
variantM_A_K: cp -r -P02:49
cappedoes anyone know an alternative adress to the PLF-server?02:49
M_A_Kvariant : thanks.02:50
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Nyto-RJnow its downloading02:50
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Nyto-RJthx02:50
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gnomefreakyw02:50
ReverseBlade{_-IcE-_}, try wiki first  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer02:50
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tunaCould someone tell me how to change the default display manager? I tried changing /etc/X11/default-display-manager but the it didn't boot a display manager at all02:50
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gnomefreakNyto-RJ: you might want to get the rest of the codecs from the !mp3 link02:50
gnomefreak!mp302:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:51
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variantM_A_K: cp -a even02:51
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kisyamReverseBlade : they said : if compiling is necessary packages must be installed : gcc-3.4, make , linux-headers2.6.12.9.386, how did i know that this package is installed in my ubuntu?02:51
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ReverseBladelexam, ubuntu is not the most user friendly, but noob friendly if you don't give up:)02:51
M_A_Kvariant : what does it mean by archive?02:51
gnomefreakkisyam: install build-essential and linux-headers-2.6.12-9-38602:51
ReverseBladekisyam, open synaptic and search for them, you will see the status02:52
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Nyto-RJwhere02:52
variantkisyam: i allready told you to apt-get install build-essential02:52
Nyto-RJsory02:52
Nyto-RJwas checkin amaroK02:52
lexamVery noob friendly with the exception of trying to tweak it which most everyday users wouldn't do I have not had any real problems with it.02:52
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matti:)02:52
ReverseBladekisyam, there  is no package for gcc, i think, they are bundled in build-essential02:52
gnomefreakNyto-RJ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats02:52
variantM_A_K: the same as if you use -p (preserve) -r (recurse) -d (dereference)02:52
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variantReverseBlade: there is a gcc package02:52
Nyto-RJok02:52
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ReverseBladevariant, right02:53
Nyto-RJi read it before02:53
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Nyto-RJbut was with the multiverse problem02:53
Nyto-RJso02:53
lexamOnce 6.10 comes out I'm thinking about doing a grass roots sit down at the coffee shop and attack anyone with a laptop with a free cd02:53
Nyto-RJwill download everything now02:53
gnomefreakNyto-RJ: most of the codecs are in multiverse so go over them again just incase02:53
Nyto-RJthx02:53
kisyamReverseBlade. variant, gnomefreak : thanks02:53
gnomefreakkisyam: yw02:53
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M_A_Kvariant : what if there may be files that are owned by root or something like that? will the copy still work if I execute it as myself rather than sudo it?02:54
AJRok ive read every wiki, every thread im completely stuck as to why it worked before i rebooted, and now it doesnt02:54
AJRso god damn frustrating02:54
variantM_A_K: providing you have read permission on those files02:54
sparkleytonewhats wrong ajr?02:54
variantM_A_K: if you dont want them to be owned by root you can change that02:54
AJRmy wg111t worked before i rebooted and since then it hasnt sparkleytone02:54
sparkleytoneis that a wifi card?02:55
AJRsparkleytone : its a usb02:55
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variantsparkleytone: yes, and he is using ndiswrapper02:55
sparkleytoneAJR: what does dmesg say?02:55
M_A_Kvariant : what is the command to chown recursively to me?02:55
AJRsparkleytone: two secs ...02:55
variantM_A_K: chown -R user /dir/02:55
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cefanyone know how I can regenerate the initrd?02:56
AJRsparkleytone: that turns out a load of crap, which parts do you want?02:56
M_A_Kvariant : so chown -R knichel /home/knichel/02:56
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sparkleytoneAJR: are you familiar with initiating ndiswrapper from the command line?02:56
AJRsparkleytone02:56
sparkleytoneAJR: if so...do that and then dmesg | tail -n 2002:56
sparkleytoneor so02:56
AJRsparkleytone: if you mean sudo modproe ndiswrapper ... yeah02:56
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sparkleytoneafaik ndiswrapper is not a kernel module02:57
sparkleytoneunless things have changed since i used it02:57
variantM_A_K: yes02:57
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M_A_Kvariant : thanks02:57
HumanPrototypeanybody know if the limewire client on windows has spyware bundled?02:57
variantM_A_K: use chgrp as well, otherwise some of the files will be in root's group02:57
AJRsparkleytone: ok i typed "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper dmesg  | tail -n 20"02:57
AJRsparkleytone : and nothing happened?02:57
variantM_A_K: same command but chgrp instead of chown02:58
mneptonHumanPrototype: use Frostwire02:58
M_A_KK02:58
HumanPrototypemnepton: its not my pc otherwise I would just be using shareaza02:58
sparkleytone!ndiswrapper02:58
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:58
_ian_hi i need help im trying to use apt-get update so tht i could do i upgrade yet i always get an error on cpp that it is held back....what should i do with this02:58
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sparkleytoneAJR: you need to "man ndiswrapper"02:58
sparkleytoneand read up on it02:58
_ian_hi i need help im trying to use apt-get update so tht i could do i upgrade yet i always get an error on cpp that it is held back....what should i do with this02:58
mneptonHumanPrototype: doesn't matter, use Frostwire ;)02:58
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AJRsparkleytone: oh ok something happened02:59
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sparkleytoneunless things have changed dramatically since breezy...ndiswrapper is not a kernel module, it is a program02:59
AJRsparkleytone: do you have msn02:59
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sparkleytoneAJR: no, i have Jabber and AIM02:59
AJRsparkleytone: ah ok .. erm so this is a manual?02:59
variantsparkleytone: it has a kernel module as part of its program02:59
LabThugI'm trying to use http_redirect on a Dapper box. Which module do I need to install to get this function? Right now, I'm told that it's undefined.02:59
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mneptonsparkleytone: ndiswrapper uses a kernel module03:00
M_A_Kvariant : should I run those commands a sudo ?03:00
Nyto-RJwhy sometimes i got this message:E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:00
Nyto-RJE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:00
sparkleytoneok thanks03:00
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variantM_A_K: yes, if your changing permissions of a root owned file (which is what you said you were doing)03:00
AJRsparkleytone , mnepton , variant - do you wanna wanna jump into a chan see if we can work this out03:00
sparkleytoneAJR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG511andNdiswrapper03:00
variantNyto-RJ: that means you have synaptic or somthing open03:01
Nyto-RJok03:01
sparkleytoneAJR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2903:01
variantAJR: sorry, i know not enougha bout ndiswrapper to offer much help03:01
Nyto-RJjust synaptic03:01
sparkleytoneyou need to read the first doc to make sure you have what you ened.03:01
_ian_anyone here who could help i really am inexperienced....and is desperate to know how to solve this prob lem so i could finlly upgrad to 6.0603:01
sparkleytoneneed*03:01
Nyto-RJits closed03:01
sparkleytoneAJR: and then you need to read that second doc to learn how to use ndiswrapper03:01
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Nyto-RJopen just gaim and amaroK03:01
sparkleytone_ian_: what problem?03:01
variantNyto-RJ: you cant run apt-get if you have annother apt process running (synaptic)03:02
Nyto-RJsorry03:02
Nyto-RJwas open03:02
variantNyto-RJ: np :)03:02
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Nyto-RJthx03:02
ptyis sun-java5-jre the thing i need to tomcat?03:02
sparkleytone_ian_: are you running on command line or in X11?03:02
AJRndks03:02
sparkleytonepty: yeah03:02
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AJRsparkleytone: ndiswrapper how to doesnt exist03:02
M_A_Kvariant : should I do the cp as sudo as well?03:02
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sparkleytoneAJR: the link is bad if you're following from the wiki page03:02
_ian_cpp:03:02
_ian_  Depends: cpp-4.0 (>=4.0.3) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed03:02
sparkleytoneAJR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper03:02
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AJRsparkleytone: gone through all of that, i had it working until i rebooted03:03
sparkleytone_ian_: have you done "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?03:03
_ian_that.... when using aptget update that shows up....error messages always have cpp on it... i tried updating using update manager but it says some problems with dependencies03:03
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sparkleytoneAJR: so you got it working by going thru that doc?03:04
sparkleytoneAJR: and then you rebooted?03:04
M_A_Kvariant : seems that links are not getting recreated.03:04
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mazsolahi all03:04
_ian_yes... error too.... E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:04
_ian_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:04
LabThuganyone in here use PHP on their Dapper box?03:04
ragnar_123yeah03:04
AJRsparkleytone : xactly03:04
Magicdeadhi, i got a problem, ever since i installed xgl and beryl (which used to much cpu) and deinstalled it again, my capslock key and the multimedia key for "turn volume down" are somewhat linked together (as are Num Lock and Mute key) so i i press caps, volume goes down by 1 and capslock turns on, (and the same when i press the volume down button)03:05
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HumanPrototype_ian_: are you running another apt-get process, synaptic, aptitude or any other apt client?03:05
AJRsparkleytone: since reboot it doesnt want to work, someone suggested ndis had lost config03:05
sparkleytone_ian_: that means you probably already have synaptic or aptitude running03:05
Magicdeador if i press numlock it mutes sound and turns numlock on03:05
LabThugragnar_123: can you tell me if you can use the http_redirect function?  And if so, what php packages you have installed?03:05
sparkleytone_ian_: you can only access apt one at a time03:05
_ian_The following packages have been kept back:03:05
_ian_  cpp cpp-4.003:05
_ian_ that irritating error always shows up at the end03:05
Magicdeadi guess this has to do something with the xmodmap you have to autoload when you install xgl+beryl, but i removed the xmodmap entry and restarted the gui, but the problem is till there03:06
sparkleytone_ian_: what are you using?  synaptic, apt-get, aptitude?03:06
_ian_apt get03:06
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sparkleytone_ian_: are you familiar with aptitude?03:06
fnf_ian_: You may google for 'The following packages have been kept back' but the immediate solution is '#apt-get dist-upgrade'03:06
ragnar_123LabThug, i dont use the http_redirect function, and my box does not boot atm, so here i sit on a live cd03:06
_ian_not really im really new...03:06
sparkleytonethats what i said fnf03:06
LabThugragnar_123: ok, thanks03:07
sparkleytoneAJR: either your ndiswrapper lost its config or you didn't set it up to load on boot03:07
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sparkleytoneAJR: what happens when you "sudo ndiswrapper -l" ?03:08
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AJRsparkleytone: wel i hve since done the ndiswrapper -m thing to load it as startup but ive rebooted and that doesnt work, i think its lost its config, ive tried repeating the steps i did efore, doesnt work03:08
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_ian_when i type this :03:09
AJRsparkleytone: stuff about failed to bring up wlan0 then installed ndis drivers, athfmwdl driver present, hardware present and netgw11t driver present03:09
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_ian_ apt-get dist-upgrade03:09
_ian_ ...this shows up E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)03:09
_ian_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?03:09
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fdoving!adept crash fix > _ian_03:10
{_-IcE-_}sudo ..03:10
fdoving_ian_: try the command ubotu tells you in msg. even if you don't use adept :)03:10
xbowhi all, can't mount floppy in 6.0603:10
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fnf_ian_: Make sure no other package manager tool (or a GUI tool such as Synaptic running), can you try running that in single user mode ?.03:11
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AJRsparkleytone: stuff about failed to bring up wlan0 then installed ndis drivers, athfmwdl driver present, hardware present and netgw11t driver present03:11
bun-bun!init >bun-bun03:12
mnepton_ian_: actually, the answer you want is "use 'sudo' at the beginning of that command"03:12
_ian_fdoving i tried it already same error mesg regarding the kep back03:12
_ian_i did use sudo....03:12
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{_-IcE-_}_ian_ : rebooted?03:12
mneptonwell, that's not what you typed in here ;)03:12
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mnepton_ian_: did you install build-essentials on that machine?03:12
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mnepton*build-essential03:13
_ian_sorry but what are build essentials?03:13
mneptongcc, make, etc etc03:13
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_ian_cpp and gcc was there already because i was trying to find what the error messagge was. i didnt even install those things they were there already03:14
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bun-bun!man > bun-bun03:14
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bun-bunis there an online man page browser for ubuntu?03:15
_ian_is there a easier way to simply upgrade i mean all i do with this comp is to surf the net and listen to radios..... kinda hard for new users03:15
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mnepton_ian_: get a CD.03:15
xbowHow to mount floppy in ubuntu 6.06.      sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy freezes03:16
mnepton_ian_: is this a Breezy -> Dapper upgrade?03:16
defryskbun-bun, <f1>03:16
_ian_but all my files and bookmarks and all the things i did will disappear right? 5.10 to 6.0603:16
mnepton_ian_: do not format the drive. your adata will be intact03:16
mnepton-a03:16
_ian_ok what i have here is kubuntu not ubuntu... will it still work?03:17
_ian_i mean the new cd03:17
defrysk_ian_, probably , you should ask in #kubuntu03:17
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mnepton_ian_: it will work fine03:18
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yeplasalut03:18
bun-bundefrysk# i meant on the web, such as those provided by sun, freebsd etc03:18
yeplay a il un pro du vpn et de wins ?03:19
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defryskbun-bun, https://help.ubuntu.com/03:19
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_ian_ok...i guess ill have to reinstall usign a cd....btw i t ried usingg that live cd it worked ok though my net was not there..... i mena no connect but im sure its working since im using it now03:19
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defrysk!fr03:19
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:19
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nearfarI am using minimal window manager. Can I use gnome-panel without the zillions of libraries loaded along with it (eg: bonobo, etc.) ?03:20
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gholenwhen I upgraded to edgy, my swap were deactivated, and it says unable to find swapspace signature, how do I solve this problem03:21
bun-bundefrysk# i'm not seeing a man-page browser at help.ubuntu.com03:21
defryskbun-bun, not sure what you want then03:22
Nyto-RJI think I got all !mp3 things...03:22
Nyto-RJgstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs w32codecs Nota: para habilitar o w32codecs, veja a seo Windows Codecs03:22
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Nyto-RJthx you guys03:23
bun-bundefrysk# something like this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi03:23
Nyto-RJcya03:23
defryskbun-bun, in gnome yelp is the man page browser03:23
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bun-bun..03:23
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variantM_A_K: thats symlinks?03:29
variantM_A_K: symlinks wont be..03:29
M_A_KYes.03:29
M_A_KI guess that is not a problem.  I will just have to recreate them03:29
M_A_KIs it bad for me to install 5.10 and let the updater update up to 6.0.6...?03:30
variantyou should be able to do it03:30
variantM_A_K: no, that is a common way to update03:30
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M_A_KOk.  Cause I used to use a program that I installed under 5.10 and when I wiped my HD and installed 6.0.6, I cant install the software now.  I am guessing it needed older libraries.03:31
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variantM_A_K: cp -a -p would be better03:31
variantM_A_K: what was the software?03:31
devious_bastardI have a bit of a noob question that I haven't found an answer for on the forums, and I was wondering if someone could help me.03:31
variantdevious_bastard: go ahead03:31
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devious_bastardI run two PCs, one of which is a windows box, and the other is an Ubuntu box.03:32
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devious_bastardThe problem is,03:32
[matrix] ubu_dappsimpatia03:32
devious_bastardI don't have an internet connection for my ubuntu box03:32
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devious_bastardAnd I want to get the mp3 codecs to work03:32
devious_bastardBut it seems I can't do that.03:32
devious_bastardWithout an IC03:32
variantdevious_bastard: the simplest thing to do is make the ubuntu box the gateway and have windows connect through it03:33
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devious_bastardWell, that's not really an option for me03:33
devious_bastardWhat is the alternative?03:33
defryskbuy a router03:33
M_A_Kwhat will that give me that cp -a won't?03:34
M_A_KIt is proprietary software for a smartboard.03:34
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variantdevious_bastard: make the windows box the gateway then, shouldnt be a problem03:35
devious_bastardSee, I just need to find a way to download the files onto my flashdrive and install them that way, but I don't know what files I need.03:35
diebelsAnybody know how to apply the fix for Bug #59715 to edgy?03:35
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variantdiebels: ask in #ubuntu+103:35
diebelsok03:35
devious_bastardSo is there anything I can do along those lines?03:36
devious_bastardAre there any zip packages I can get?03:36
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devious_bastardIs there anything along those lines I can do?03:37
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jchWhat needs to be done to get p4-clockmod support for P4 CPU freq scaling?03:38
jch(In edgy?)03:39
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doomzhelp ! :(03:40
doomzI cant install ubuntu03:40
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MatthewVdoomz, please describe your problem, so someone can help you..03:41
doomzafter the cd loads up the kernel i get: [17179570.40000]  PCI: Faied to allocate mem resource #6:20000@...... for 0000:01:00.003:41
doomzI tried the forums and stuff...03:41
ReverseBladedoomz, check the CD03:41
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doomzits the latest03:41
yokobrhey, someone there in ubuntu 64?03:41
doomzdownloaded it AGAIN03:41
MarcNdoomz: how much memory do you have?03:41
doomzsame problem03:41
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ReverseBladedoomz, no, there is a menu "check CD" before installing03:42
doomz1,02403:42
doomzthe cd is ok !!03:42
doomzalready checked it03:42
ReverseBladedoomz, you didn't but ok03:42
doomzI've used this cd on my old pc and it works like a charm03:42
doomzReverseBlade: i did03:42
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doomzReverseBlade: I checked the cd and the memory03:42
leonelhello :  will there be  SUN JDK updates for dapper or edgy   dapper has  version 1.5.0-06  and curently sun has released 1.5.0.0903:42
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cycomAnyone have any idea why a media keyboard volume down button would show up as 'mouse 2' in xev?03:43
variantcycom: badly made keyboard?03:43
doomzReverseBlade: I bought a new machine, and this problem occours only with it03:43
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ReverseBladedoomz, it is not checking. You have to select check CD to check it. It may work on another pc but this does not prove your CD works with the drive. Some times there occurs incompatibilities between the CD and the dRive03:43
cycomvariant: logitech cordless desktop optical.  worked in previous versions of ubuntu, stopped working in dapper.03:44
variantcycom: soryr, dont know03:44
doomzReverseBlade: I've selected the check cd and memory03:44
yokobri need a repository list for ubuntu 6403:44
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ReverseBladedoomz, ok then03:44
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ReverseBladeleonel, may be03:44
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cheesyhabe mit ubuntu das erste mal linux ohne ein einziges problem installiert03:45
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cheesy+als03:45
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variantcheesy: #ubuntu.dk for you i think03:46
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cheesyoh sorry03:46
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grubenponycheesy: das ist schoen, but this is a englisch only channel03:46
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grubenpony!de03:46
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:46
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ReverseBladedoomz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24481703:46
cheesyi just wanted wo mention that ubuntu was the first distro i installed without one little problem03:47
variantcheesy: :)03:47
cheesy-w+t03:47
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grubenponycheesy: yeah, runs like a charm :)   of course, the newer the hardware, the more problems you can get (even with ubuntu)03:47
yokobrplease guys, anyone has a complete list of repositories for ubuntu 64 bit??!03:47
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yokobri cant update my compiz03:48
ReverseBladedoomz, AFAIU that error message do not prevent from booting. there may be another reason03:48
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doomzReverseBlade: the machine hangs after this error03:48
gnomefreakyokobr: please ask in #ubuntu-xgl03:48
yokobrthax03:48
doomzReverseBlade: I came across this thread few days ago03:48
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slopyokobr, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26045203:48
slopbah03:48
doomzReverseBlade: I understand that I need a newer kernel but03:49
variantanyone know where to get cheap microatx based systems?03:49
doomzReverseBlade: in order to have the newest kernel I need to have an already running system03:49
ReverseBladedoomz, you may try edgy03:49
doomzReverseBlade: help :( Im stuck on Win for a month now =(03:49
ReverseBladedoomz, did ya ?03:50
xipietoteceh....just a general question the bash for unix and bash for linux aren't different are they? (I'm using an Oreilly book and it keeps saying "unix")?03:50
doomzReverseBlade: I saw there alot of versions I dont know exactly what to download, Knop1 Knop2 Knop etc...03:50
MarcNxipietotec: only difference may be the version of bash03:50
ReverseBladewell now there is BETA03:50
xipietoteccool cool. =O)03:50
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doomzReverseBlade: Ill try the plain beta one, thanks ! :)03:51
Subhuman!schedule03:51
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule03:51
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ReverseBladedoomz, go http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/03:52
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doomzthanks !03:52
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ReverseBladedoomz, note that it will be released in 10 days03:52
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{_-IcE-_}quick quest... how do i cp with subdirectories pls?03:54
doomzReverseBlade: can it update its revision like FreeBSD ?03:54
doomzbecause I know that in Linux you cant...03:54
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ReverseBladedoomz, I am not sure of that . I never install beta03:54
variant{_-IcE-_}: cp -r03:54
{_-IcE-_}cheers03:54
ReverseBladedoomz, but search it in the forums. plenty of posts there03:54
variantdoomz: you can apt-get dist-upgrade03:55
TreMobyldoomz: "it" is what?03:55
doomzit = ubuntu beta03:55
ReverseBladedoomz, it refers to "upgrading to edgy" or a similar phrase03:55
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ReverseBladedoomz, probably it is03:55
doomzthanks ReverseBlade, u've helped me alot03:55
gholenI have problems with the upgrade from dapper to edgy, My swap dissaperard, and "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda4" gives this "Disk /dev/hda4 doesn't contain a valid partition table" How do I change it?03:56
Ninja562what directory are the wallpaper files kept on Ubuntu?03:56
ReverseBladedoomz, yw03:56
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ReverseBladeNinja562, any directory03:56
ReverseBladejust set the image as a wallpaper03:56
doomzeven for 10 days.... developing in M$ workspace... its a living hell03:56
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unimatrix9hi there03:56
variantNinja562: defaults are in /usr/share/ somwhere and ones you set yourself will be whereever they are stored03:57
mrinne  Can anyone tell me if I can import my thunderbird profiles from a windows version to the ubuntu one?03:57
Ninja562ReverseBlade: yea, but the defaults are in a certain place and I wanted to put my pics ther as well03:57
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MarcNgholen: use fdisk /dev/hda (not hda4) to see the partition table03:57
unimatrix9i use xchat,why does it load dbus.so? remote acces...03:57
TreMobyldoomz: not sure why you don't think you can upgrade linux03:57
ReverseBladedoomz, you don't need to curse MS. You don't need because linux is every which way better. You will see after using it some months03:57
sidny4why doesn't ubuntu recognize the size of my USB drive?03:57
unimatrix9cant seem to unload it, is it danger?03:57
TreMobylReverseBlade: no, it's not.03:57
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Ninja562variant: /user/sharegot yaa, thx03:57
cheesywhere can i see what will be/is new in 6.10?03:57
ReverseBladeTreMobyl, what is not ?03:57
TreMobylReverseBlade: compatibility primarily.  Most apps are designed for Windows, not Linux, as is hardware.03:58
doomzReverseBlade, lol.... I migrated from fBSD to ubuntu after few good years.03:58
ReverseBladeTreMobyl, so ?03:58
gholenMarcN, I've tried that, change it with fdisk, but it's quite  clear that I do somethiong wrong, can you help me?03:58
TreMobylReverseBlade: so, for the average user, windows is a local minimum.03:58
TreMobylnot global minimu, but lodal.03:58
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jribcheesy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft click on the beta release pages03:59
MarcNgholen: did you change the partitions when using fdisk /dev/hda4?03:59
ReverseBladeTreMobyl, so ?. After spending few months he will be a  better average user. At that time linux will be better than windows for him03:59
cheesythanks03:59
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TreMobylReverseBlade: unless he must use a Windows-only app or hardware04:00
TreMobylmonopolies suck.  This is one reason why.04:00
finalbetaNautilus has a search button, what does it actually do? I mount a CD? press earch, but it doesn't seem to search at all.04:00
unimatrix9okay other question, is there an program for linux that surfs online tv?04:00
gholenMarcN, yes, I tried to change the table for the swap, from ID 83 to ID 82, but it doesn't give a damn :(04:00
ReverseBladeTreMobyl, for the applications, it is usually not a problem. Mostly there is a free alternative, if there isn't then there is wine and mono04:00
TreMobylReverseBlade: that's no panacaea04:00
HumanPrototypeTreMobyl: why do monopolies suck?04:00
sidny4why doesn't ubuntu recognize the size of my USB drive?04:00
Isaacariahwhoop04:00
Isaacariahkrazykit, you here/04:00
doomzTreMobyl, everything can be over ridden, the question is how elegant the solution is04:00
unimatrix9sidny, how can you tell?04:01
TreMobyldoomz: wine is not an elegant solution.  :)04:01
MarcNgholen: without getting into what you did, you may have mucked up your disk.   I'm going to pass on helping.  /me back to work04:01
doomzTreMobyl, ofcourse :)04:01
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sidny4unimatrix9, it recognizes that it's plugged in but says that there is 0 bytes of space left04:01
TreMobylvendors porting their software and designing their hardware for linux is a much more elegant solution.  :)04:01
fnfsidny4: Perhaps the FAT is broken, have you tried reformatting it ?.04:01
doomzTreMobyl, after I saw XGl, I think that the only thing which is keeping linux from dominating the market is a good migration kit which will be easy to use04:01
Isaacariahare there iPod drivers for linux?04:02
sidny4it sees the files on it (there should be 200 megs still)04:02
joaohow can I open an application manager like ctrl+shift+esc in windows?04:02
TreMobyldoomz: there's a *lot* of things keeping ABM for dominating the market.04:02
TreMobylSee also, monopolies suck.04:02
sidny4fnf, I haven't tried that yet04:02
doomzTreMobyl, u cant ask vendors to make software which wont sell04:02
joaoctrl+alt+del doesnt work04:02
ReverseBladepeople for offtopic , there is #ubuntu-offtopic04:02
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unimatrix9sidny4 did it work before?04:03
doomzTreMobyl, in my area, I know few big firms who changed from MS os to Ubuntu, which is a great step04:03
fnfsidny4: Can you backup the files then reformat ?.04:03
ReverseBladejoao, www.getautomatix.com04:03
nprowler.04:03
sidny4unimatrix, yes, it has worked before04:03
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variantIsaacariah: what do you mean? you can install linux on your ipod and there is a program for using itunes with your ipod on linux..04:03
host`how do I unistall a package with apt-get?04:03
unimatrix9doomz where do you live?04:03
variantjoao: do not use automatix04:03
joaoReverseBlade, whats this?04:03
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ReverseBladevariant, why not ?04:03
doomzIsrael04:03
cherubielhost`: apt-get remove <packagename>04:03
IsaacariahWell actually I have rockbox on my ipod, but in windows, I still need the ipod drivers to see it when its in Disk Mode04:03
joaoI just wanna kill an application04:04
unimatrix9okey, great steps there...doomz04:04
unimatrix9:)04:04
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ReverseBladedoomz, variant Isaacariah #ubuntu-offtopic04:04
doomzok :) sotty04:04
joaoIve tried killlall but didnt work04:04
doomzsorry04:04
variantjoao: it is a script which will install all the codecs etc (only 2 minnits to do manualy) and it will do it in a way that is not nesasarrily safe for your system04:04
cherubielIsaacariah: ipodlinux/rockbox, try both04:04
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host`!pastebin04:04
waylandbilljoao, did you try xkill?04:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:04
susscorfado someone know how to make a cd with some sources on it to intall it on a offline computer ?04:04
Isaacariahcherubiel, I have rockbox ON my ipod04:04
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ReverseBladejoao, variant it is safe. you be sure of that. it is not offical yet04:04
IsaacariahI want to know if I need any special drivers to access my ipod via USB04:04
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joaovariant, can I install it in ubuntu 5.10?04:05
cherubielIsaacariah: sorry lost context :D04:05
variantReverseBlade: it uses --force so even if there is a problem with a dependancy it will force the install04:05
Isaacariah:P04:05
variantjoao: install the codecs? yes04:05
host`when I try to uninstall this package, this is what I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27217/04:05
variant!automatix04:05
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.04:05
ReverseBladevariant, it is better for him to use automatix than curse to ubuntu04:05
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Isaacariahhowever seeing as thought I have misplaced my iPod, I wont be accessing it any time soon04:05
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variantReverseBlade: it is better for him to do it the correct way04:06
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host`I've tried to pkill it with pkill mldonkey-server04:06
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leonel<ReverseBlade> leonel, may be <-- Where can we read about it  ?04:06
variantReverseBlade: rather than be cursing his borked system in a few weeks time or when he comes to upgrade04:06
host`but that still doesn't work04:06
shuananyone know how i can install java to enable frostwire to work?04:06
ReverseBladevariant, in private04:06
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varianthost`: killall -9 mldonkey-server04:06
variantReverseBlade: what?04:06
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host`mldonkey-server: no process killed04:07
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mneptonshuan: install sun's java5 jre via apt/synaptic and then run update-java-alternatives04:07
shuanthanks04:08
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joaokillall -9 doesnt work and xkill too04:08
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sidny4how do I format my USB drive?04:08
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joaooIve got "no aborted process"04:09
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whysohow do i view .chm files in ubuntu?04:09
redlancesidny4, What would you like to format it as?  FAT32, ext3?04:09
variantsidny4: depends what filesystem you want but if its vfat then do mkfs.vfat /dev/sd@@04:09
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Isaacariahwhats the ubuntu equivalent of "safely removing" a USB device04:09
variantsidny4: where @@ is the partition to be formatted04:10
sidny4FAT3204:10
fnfsidny4: It depends on what kind of file system you want: try 'mkfs.ext3' if you don't intend to share it with Windows machines, 'mkfs.vfat' otherwise04:10
redlanceIsaacariah, Unmount it04:10
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vbizcochowww.netrochat.com04:10
host`joao, it isn't running in X04:10
ReverseBladeIsaacariah, unmount04:10
Isaacariahredlance, cheers04:10
whysoisaacariah: unmount it04:10
Isaacariah...how do i go about that?04:10
joaoit is not responding04:11
redlanceIsaacariah, Do you have an icon for the device?04:11
host`it doesn't have a window04:11
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host`it's running in the backgroud somewhere04:11
whysosystem, administration, disks, click on the volume, and hit deactivate04:11
Isaacariahdont worry04:11
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Isaacariahi got it04:11
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jendaI need help configuring Ubuntu to use USB speakers. They are detected ok, and used when I press 'test' in the sound control window, but they never play any other sounds.04:12
jessidHello to everybody...04:12
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variantjenda: apt-get install alsaplayer and try to play a sound file with that04:12
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shuanmnepton: i tried searching synaptic for java and its not there i also tried add/applications before i upgraded to ubuntu Lts it used to have it there04:13
variantjenda: also make sure all channels are unmuted and that your other programs are configured to use alsa for sound output04:13
whysoanyone know how to open a .chm in ubuntu?04:13
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ReverseBladeshuan, searcch for jre or jdk04:13
jessidsome of you have seen those beautiful effects in GNOME that allow to see windows as if they were made of ruber? How Can I do that in UBUNTU? thanks04:13
ReverseBladeshuan, why do you need java at all ?04:13
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redlanceHey all, I've got a fresh install of Dapper, now I need to correctly get the correct kernel for my AMD XP2400, how do I do that?04:13
jendavariant: ok, the alsa issue is probably the thing. the sound currently plays from the lappy speakers.04:13
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joaohost', is there a kind of application manager in ubuntu ?04:13
ReverseBladejessid, ubuntu wiki: XGL04:13
M_A_KOk, Im getting set to flatten my HD and reinstall.  I want /, /home, swap.  How much should I use?  I have 80GB HD with an external 400GB.04:14
shuanreverse im trying to run frostwire04:14
Xac_where can i get a md5 tool to test the images under windows04:14
fnfwhyso: apt-cache search chm help04:14
jessidReverseBlade thanks!04:14
whysothanks04:14
ReverseBladeshuan, search for JRE if you can'T find java04:14
variantIsaacariah: there is a way to mount usb disk with a "sync" option (used to just put it in fstab) that would make it pretty much safe to remove the drive without unmounting it first04:14
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variantIsaacariah: however I dont know how to use that option with all the automounting that is currently done04:14
variantIsaacariah: perhaps with a udev rule04:14
jendavariant: configging amarok to play alsa gives no change...04:14
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host`joao, not that I know of, I just looked through to make sure04:15
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shuanreverseblade: i found java jdk environment04:15
shuan?04:15
jendavariant: alsaplayer not a success either.04:15
whysoWOW is that apt-cache helpful :)04:16
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variantsorry all, i am at work. back in 204:16
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urakaipahi there, i've got some useful information for ssh via web using nat, maybe it could be interesting: some kind of router are not able to nat the client computer to the outside network (internet) and than nat the incoming request to the server computer. so if you want to test if ssh works via web (ie connecting from university to home using such a dyndns service) you cannot have a try using two computers under the same lan.04:16
Isaacariahvariant, I'll look into it, thanks04:16
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joaoI know that there is, Ive oopened one in ubuntu by file system searching, but Ive forgot its name04:16
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joaothe kill comands are not closing my not responding applications04:17
host`you talking about aptitude?04:17
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[GuS] peopl... how i do enabled mysql modlule for proftpd? i enabled inside /etc/proftpd/modules.conf04:17
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ReverseBladejoao, there is forced to kill launcher04:17
[GuS] but when i type: proftpd -l is not04:17
host`joao, ok I found something04:17
host`"System Monnitor"04:18
ReverseBladejoao, right click to panel  add to panel04:18
variantjoao: if those are graphical applications you can press alt + f2 and type xkill, then just click the offending app04:18
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redlanceWhat's the "proper" way to update my kernel?04:18
grubenponyurakaipa: my solution for that problem is to use ssh remote port forwarding04:18
ReverseBladejoao, there is a Force to quit icon04:18
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joaohost, Yaa that's  the name04:18
variantjoao: did you try xkill?04:18
variantjoao: it works every time :)04:18
tritiumredlance: the debian/ubuntu way of compiling your own would be to install kernel-package, and use the make-kpkg tool04:18
joaoya but here didnt04:18
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host`joao, but it's not listed in it either04:18
variantjoao: :(04:18
waylandbillvariant, I asked him that 10 minutes ago. :-D04:19
ReverseBladejoao, did you get my message ?04:19
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crimsunjenda: ``asoundconf list''04:19
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variantReverseBlade: to upgrade your kernel just apt-get update && apt-get install linux-kernel04:19
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ReverseBladevariant, wrong person04:19
jendacrimsun: ICH6 and Speaker04:19
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waylandbillmaybe a "sudo xkill" will go better.04:19
variantredlance: to upgrade your kernel just apt-get update && apt-get install linux-kernel04:20
variantredlance: woops04:20
joaowhre is this launcher or icon?04:20
variantReverseBlade: woops04:20
crimsunjenda: please use http://pastebin.ca for ``cat ~/.asoundrc*''04:20
host`joao, were you trying to help me with my problem earlier or were you asking for help with yours?04:20
variantgod damn irssi nick completions04:20
tritiumeasy there, variant04:20
urakaipagrubenpony: could you please explain it to me?04:20
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unimatrix9jenda or maybe try cat/bin/bash > /dev/dsp to see it it works  use ctrl+c to kill the signal if it works04:20
ReverseBladejoao, in Desktop & Windows section04:20
redlancevariant, Ok, and which kernel is correct for my AMD XP 2400?04:20
joaohost`, the second04:21
variantredlance: 68604:21
ReverseBladevariant, isn't K 704:21
jendacrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27219/04:21
host`oh, because I'm having a similar problem04:21
host`I can't get this program to shut down so I can uninstall it04:21
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jendaunimatrix9: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy04:21
mneptonredlance: you want a K7 kernel for AMD on i386 Ubuntu04:21
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host`http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27217/04:22
waylandbillK7 was for earlier AMD's. Athlons and Semperons use 686.04:22
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ReverseBladehost`, sudo killall -9 <program_name> kills everything04:22
crimsunjenda: sound output is configured still to use the onboard04:22
variantReverseBlade: your quite right04:22
crimsunjenda: are you using GNOME?04:22
host`ReverseBlade, I tried that, and it didn't work04:22
redlanceOkay, thanks!04:22
mneptonwaylandbill: incorrect. you should use a K7 kernel on all AMD products for 3DNow and other AMD extensions04:22
ReverseBladehost`, there is no way it can't work04:22
jendacrimsun: I just found it, I think... yes, Gnome04:23
host`I even did variations of the name04:23
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jendacrimsun: aha, I see - I changed it. I'll reboot and see. thx04:23
crimsunjenda: no need to reboot04:23
ReverseBladehost`, are you sure you typed the correct name ? what is the application ?04:23
sureshotthe 686 kernal really helped my intell m65 2gh machine have not loaded it on my sempron 64 yet but use the 68604:23
crimsunjenda: just restart the sound app(s)04:23
grubenponyurakaipa: i have a ssh account on a machine on the net (having a fixed ip). i let my home machine ssh to that account, building a remote port forwarding back to port 22 of my home machine. then i log in from anywhere to the ssh account on the net machine and then start a second ssh session from that machine to the local high port that is forwarded to my home machine.04:23
host`mldonkey-server04:23
jendacrimsun: ok, is there a command?04:23
jendacrimsun: ok, will do ;)04:23
jendayay04:24
jenda:)04:24
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ReverseBladesu you type killall -9 mldonkey server, and after you type ps |grep mldonkey , you see something ?04:24
jendacrimsun, variant: thanks04:24
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host`ReverseBlade, nothing04:25
host`ReverseBlade, did you read the pastebin?04:25
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varianthost`: do ps aux | grep donkey04:25
ReverseBladehost`, sorry try ps -e | grep donkey04:25
varianthost`: if it has a Z in that line then yer fecked04:25
ReverseBladeor above04:25
varianthost`: if its a zombie process then you have to kill the parent04:26
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ReverseBladeReverseBlade, no I did not04:26
ReverseBladeoh damn04:26
ReverseBladelol04:26
ReverseBladehost`, I did not04:26
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waylandbillmnepton, for some reason my brain was thinking K6, not K7.. you're correct. :-/04:26
host`ReverseBlade, I didn't get any results with ps -e |grep donkey04:28
eraccRegarding ssh over the internet from remote locations to home or office PC with multiple PCs. Many routers can port forward to odd high level ports. Set each machine needing remote access to listen on a different high level port in sshd_config leaving the default port 22 for LAN connections. Then forward from the router to the odd high level ports.04:28
varianthost`: if the parent is "init" then you have a problem (have to reboot) but the thing is, zombie processes are 99.999 percent harmless04:28
host`http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27217/04:28
varianthost`: ps aux | grep donkey04:28
cherubielhost`: amd64?04:28
host`1000      3475  0.0  0.1   2876   796 pts/0    R+   10:28   0:00 grep donkey04:28
notwisthow do i create a virtual folder?04:29
ReverseBladetry that one host` ps aux |grep donkey04:29
ReverseBladevirtual folder ?04:29
varianthost`: thats not it, just the grep process04:29
varianthost`: so, you dont have the donkey process running04:29
host`apparently not04:29
eraccDo not forget to limit ssh logins to specific users if using password logins and change the user passwords regularly.04:29
varianthost`: can you take a screenshot of the problem?04:29
ReverseBladevariant, I think he had to make sudo ps ...04:29
host`I just pastebined it04:29
variantReverseBlade: by default root owned processes are not hidden from users04:30
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ReverseBladevariant, alright04:30
catalytichi all04:30
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variantcatalytic: hi04:30
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catalyticcan anyone suggest a good system montor for my xfce desktop?04:30
cherubielhost`: Change in /etc/init.d/mldonkey-server;04:30
cherubielinstall -o mldonkey -g mldoney -m 755 -f $PIDFILE04:30
cherubielwith04:30
cherubielinstall -o mldonkey -g mldonkey -m 755 -d $(dirname $PIDFILE)04:30
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ReverseBladecatalytic, go #xubuntu04:31
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catalyticok04:31
poprofitsis there a portuguese ubuntu channel ?04:31
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tritium!pt04:31
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.04:31
ReverseBlade!pt04:31
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joaovariant, I think that now I know why kill was not workin... I was trying to kill amsn but this name is not recognized, I had to kill wish instead amsn04:32
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eXistenZjoao, killall amsn04:32
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ReverseBladekillall joao, lol04:33
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joaoheuheuheuhue04:33
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poprofitscan somebody tell me how i connect in the adsl with ubuntu live ?04:33
joaoI prefer using gnome-system-monitor04:33
ReverseBladepoprofits, is your modem a router, or usb based ?04:33
poprofitsrouter04:34
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ReverseBladepoprofits, no need to make any setup than04:34
notwisthey, how do i create a virtual folder? like, a shortcut sort of04:34
redlanceHow do I test out my #D acceleration?  I know there is a command to show some animated gears, but I don't remember it.04:34
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notwistanyone?04:34
redlanceer, 3D even04:34
poprofitsbut i dont want to make my modem a router04:34
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elkbunturedlance, glxgears04:34
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ReverseBladeredguy, glx_gears --print or something04:34
MarcNnotwist: what do you mean by a virtual folder.  Never heard of that term04:34
redlanceelkbuntu, Thank you04:35
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ReverseBladeredlance, , glx_gears --print or something04:35
catalyticglx_gears-printfps04:35
host`cherubiel, I changed it and I still get the same error04:35
ReverseBladethat was it04:35
notwistMarcN: well.. i dont know what its called. Like, I want a folder in my FTP folder to redirect to /home/notwist/mp3 for example04:35
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MarcNnotwist: you want a soft link.  man ln   (you want something like ln -s /home/foo/bar /somewhere/else)04:36
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notwistMarcN: thanks mate04:36
redlanceOk, they run slow.  I have an ATI Radeon 9600.  I know support isn't the greatest, but what's the best way to set it up?  ATI's driver, or the open source one?04:36
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ubutomDoes anybody know how I can tell apt-get, or aptitude, to remove all package and reinstall them? I want to upgrade to edgy, and having some trouble with dependencies. So I would like to have a fresh default install, without having to burn an edgy cd, and, if possible, with keeping my data ;)04:36
ReverseBladeredlance, the answer is fglrx04:36
cherubielhost`: any luck?04:36
ReverseBlade!fglrx04:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:36
host`cherubiel, none at all04:36
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host`same error when uninstalling04:36
cherubielhost`: did you modify the script?04:37
host`yes04:37
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redlanceReverseBlade, Thanks again!04:37
ReverseBladeyw04:37
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ReverseBladeredlance, though a very bumpy road is ahead of you , lol04:38
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cherubielhost`: could you pastebin you're scritp file?04:38
host`sure, just a sec04:39
ripperi've upgraded to edgy from dapper, now nautillus doesnt work, how can i fix this w/o doing a complete reinstall? i've tried editing sources.list back to dapper and doing apt-get update & upgrade, with no luck.04:39
redlanceReverseBlade, I know.  I had it working under Hoary, then it quit, and I never got it going again04:39
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ReverseBladeripper, try running nautilus from console and see  what errors do you get04:40
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ubutomDoes anybody know how I can tell apt-get, or aptitude, to remove all package and reinstall them? I want to upgrade to edgy, and having some trouble with dependencies. So I would like to have a fresh default install, without having to burn an edgy cd, and, if possible, with keeping my data ;)04:41
ripperheh i think that my upgrade was a mistake.04:41
ReverseBladeubotu, just  back up your data and format it04:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about just  back up your data and format it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:41
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ubutomhhm, is there no way at all? :(04:42
ubutomty ReverseBlade04:42
ReverseBladeripper, I know people who upgraded hoary => breezy => dapper => edgy and still have stable system04:42
ripperhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/BFHkw346.html04:42
host`cherubiel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27221/04:43
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redlanceReverseBlade, So the fglrx is better then the actual ATI driver?04:43
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redlanceReverseBlade, Oh, I see now.  nevermind04:44
ReverseBladeredlance, fgrlx is faster than default. But you have ubuntu's fglrx and ati's fglrx04:44
redlanceReverseBlade, Oh!  So how do I know which one I'm getting, and which one fo those is "better"?04:44
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Dragonfiretest04:45
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ReverseBladeredlance, AFAIK there are some packages default in repos for fglrx, so if I were you I would go with repos first. If  you got serious problems you can revert back to ATI's04:45
redlancetest received04:45
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wrabbit^hi guys..... took a while but I think I've finally completed my upgrade to edgy04:46
ReverseBladethe difference is ATI's are not open source but rather property04:46
wrabbit^is there a way to find out for sure if things went ok?04:46
host`cherubiel, did you get that?04:46
ReverseBladewrabbit^, if your computer works as you like ,then it is ok04:46
redlanceReverseBlade, Ok, so when I look in my X11 config, and it says ati that is ubuntu's version of fglrx?04:46
ripperany ideas as to whats going on with my ubuntu install here?04:46
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wrabbit^ReverseBlade: I mean, is there a command that'll tell me which version I'm running in terminal?04:46
ReverseBladeredlance, no ati means the default (mesa). it is slow, you have revert it to fglrx by all means04:47
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redlanceReverseBlade, Ok.  And do that by following the link you gave me earlier?04:47
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Donald1Hello, i have a Lexmark 4300 (printer) and i wanted to know which driver i have to install, how to get it and how to install it04:47
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ReverseBladewrabbit^, a distro is a pile of packages in dividually. You can check your version of kernel, version of applications one by one. other than that there is no way you can see something like ubuntu 6.10 AFAIK04:48
ripperheh reboot the box, look close and you'll see it04:48
ripperi cant seem to go back to dapper via apt-get04:48
ripperand really really have too much to lose to reinstall04:48
ReverseBladeDonald1, make a search in google if it works with your printer. My OKI doesn't work at all04:48
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jendacrimsun: hmm... when I unplug the speakers, they fail to get detected again. Any idea how to invoke re-scanning?04:49
cherubielhost`: on dapper?04:49
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host`yes04:49
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Donald1ReverseBlade: what do i search for? ubuntu compatible with lexmark 4300?04:49
wrabbit^ReverseBlade: ok, thanks.  There were just alot of issues with x and others so I just want to make sure it actually worked04:50
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crimsunjenda: you have to ``sudo modprobe -r snd_usb_audio''04:50
ReverseBladegoogle: linux "lexmark 4300"04:50
crimsunjenda: known issue, wasn't fixed in time for Edgy04:50
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ReverseBladeDonald1, google: linux "lexmark 4300"04:50
jendacrimsun: cool. But: It won't modprobe... "FATAL: Module snd_usb_audio is in use."04:50
crimsunjenda: that's because some apps still think the device exists (when it doesn't). Use ``kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*)''04:51
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jendacrimsun: cool :) thx04:52
ReverseBladewrabbit^, it probably worked. Don't take linux something like windows. In windows everything drivers etc are tightly coupled that you can never trust the system integrity. In linux things work different. It is designed that everything works independently04:52
crimsunjenda: np04:52
ripperanyone got any suggestions for me?04:52
ReverseBladeripper, what's up ?04:52
jendacrimsun: one more thing. I carry the lappy to school every now and then. How will it behave when it finds out no speakers are plugged in?04:52
AtKaaZhi, any idea why /etc/console-setup/boottime.kmap.gz is not in effect on ubuntu 6.10 ?04:52
ripperReverseBlade nautillus wont start after i upgraded to edgy from dapper04:53
wrabbit^ReverseBlade: Yeah, that makes sense.04:53
hackman127I just installed postgres and I am trying to connect to the server, but cannot. It is running, but it says it is trying to connect through the socket .s.PGSQL.5432, but the socket is actually .s.PGSQL.5433! What could be causing this?04:53
ripperhere are the errors.04:53
crimsunjenda: gconf-based apps (say, gnome) will default to whatever's present (that is, your onboard, which is card 0).04:53
ripperhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/BFHkw346.html04:53
ripperand i cant get the box to go back to dapper04:53
crimsunjenda: for other apps, you'll need to reset System> Preferences> Sound> [middle tab] > Set default sound card04:53
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ReverseBladeripper, did you install XGL or something ?04:54
crimsunjenda: or if you feel more comfortable with the command line, invoke asoundconf(1) directly04:54
rippernope.04:54
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finalbetaNautilus has a search button, what does it actually do? I mount a CD? press earch, but it doesn't seem to search at all.04:55
rippercan this be fixed?04:55
jendacrimsun: ok, that's perfect (at least till the issue is fixed&better handled). thx again.04:56
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ReverseBladeripper, wait a sec04:56
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ReverseBladeripper, definitely , but I don't know if I can :)04:57
Donald1ReverseBlade: I checked on several websites and they say they all had problems with their printers but they  don't give any solutions04:57
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ReverseBladeDonald1, unfortunately , some printer manufacturers , don't consider linux solutions. And there is no way to work it out. When you buy a printer make sure it works under linux next time04:58
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Donald1ReverseBlade: ok, thanks for your help, this is the last time i'm buying Lexmark!04:59
variantDonald1: linux-printing.org has an excellent list of printers that work with linux. it also has reccomendations for ones that work flawlessly04:59
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Donald1Variant: thank you04:59
ReverseBladeDonald1, just send them a mail and ask about the situation04:59
variant~Donald1: linuxprinting.org has an excellent list of printers that work with linux. it also has reccomendations for ones that work flawlessly04:59
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sureshotit is funny lexmark used to be ibm.. ibm now uses linux on it servers and sells them that way and now lexmark will not work on linux how funny04:59
variantDonald1: sorry, its linuxprinting.org not linux-printing.org05:00
Donald1ok05:00
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ripperthis is sucking05:00
cherubielripper: try strace nautilus05:01
cherubieland pastebin the verbose output05:01
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Donald1I have another question, how can i make my wireless to connect directly to my router without having to type my WEP key each time?05:01
ripperhahahah thats like 20 pages so far05:01
variantcherubiel: afaik gnome is not built with debug enabled so strace will be fairly useless05:01
variantripper: what is wrong?05:02
ripperi upgraded from edgy to dapper; nautillus wont start now, and i cant get the system to go back to dapper05:02
wrabbit^hi guys... how do I leave x so that I can install the beta nvidia drivers?05:02
wrabbit^thought it was init 5 but that doesn't work05:03
ReverseBladeripper, I found nothingi though your problem looks like a gtk problem05:03
variantripper: yeah, downgrading is not so easy.. reinstall if you cant be botherd fixing it. just be SURE NOT TO FORMAT /home05:03
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variantripper: you did put /home on a seperate partition didnt you?05:03
ripperpfft its not a seperate partition.05:03
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spiekeyhello!05:03
ReverseBladenot specif to nautilus I guess05:03
variantripper: oops :)05:03
ripperand umm i had this problem once before.05:04
ripperwith horay -> dapper05:04
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spiekeythis might be a little OT question, but how can i create 3 ext3 partitions with a script?05:04
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ripperdont know how i got it fixed.05:04
morphoshello !05:04
wrabbit^anybody know?05:04
variantripper: did you do it after dapper was released or while it was in development?05:04
ReverseBladeripper, just reinstall if you upgraded 2 distros at once05:04
ripperafter release.05:04
hackman127I just installed postgres and I am trying to connect to the server, but cannot. It is running, but it says it is trying to connect through the socket .s.PGSQL.5432, but the socket is actually .s.PGSQL.5433! What could be causing this?05:04
morphosI'm new in linux.05:04
ReverseBladeripper, and go for 6.10 this time05:04
ripperim not going to reinstall if i can fix gtk05:04
variantwrabbit^: ctrl alt f1 and login then run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:05
ReverseBladeripper, alright good luck05:05
Donald1How can i connect to wireless without having to put in my WEP key?05:05
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variantmorphos: hi05:05
ReverseBladeripper, I am sure there is a solution though05:05
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notwistmy xmms keeps hanging up after some time, and after that I can't get it to start until after a couple of minutes. Could it be driver problems? I have an nforce2 mb with onboard audio05:05
ReverseBladeDonald1, just drop WEP thing from your router05:05
ripperyeah there should be.05:06
ripperi was told that this was stable.05:06
variantnotwist: it certainly could be a driver probelm05:06
notwistvariant: is there any way for me to know? what driver should I have? :/05:06
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variantripper: edgy is not stable (yet) although for my purposes it is very stable05:06
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variantnotwist: your using the right driver but its a reverse engineerd driver and may well be buggy. that might not even be the problem though05:07
ripperok how can i reinstall gkt?05:07
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rippergtk*05:07
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variantnotwist: I would buy a new/second hand pci sound card tbh. they are very cheap05:08
variantnotwist: avoid nvidia hardware if you plan on using free software05:08
notwistaw man05:08
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notwisti think i have one laying around though05:08
variantnotwist: cool05:08
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rippercould someone tell me how to reinstall gtk since that seems to be the problem05:09
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Dr_willisripper,  thats windows thinking. :P05:09
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ReverseBladeripper, would not work but I understand your desperancy05:10
ReverseBladeripper, what version are you using ? dapper or edgy ?05:10
Dr_willisripper,  try making a new user.. see if the stuff works for that user.. if so.. your gnome configs are the issue05:10
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ReverseBladeripper, Dr_willis idea might work05:11
ReverseBlade's05:11
rippertrying it.05:11
ReverseBladeripper, what version ?05:11
ripperi've tried reinstalling gnome aswell05:11
ripperedgy.05:11
ripperdev version05:11
ReverseBladehoary to => edgy ?05:11
ripperapparently didnt see that until it was too late.05:11
ripperno hoary > dapper > edgy05:11
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ReverseBladeripper, hmm05:12
ripperdapper worked fine05:12
ReverseBladeI understand you you don't want to reinstall05:12
rippernow why cant i go back to dapper?05:12
ripperno, i have alot of important data05:12
ripperi cant afford to lose05:12
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ReverseBladeripper, where is that important data ?05:12
ripperand no way to back it up05:12
ReverseBladeripper, how no way ?05:12
ripperin my ~05:12
variantripper: cd writer?05:12
ReverseBladeripper, just back up that folder then05:12
ptyripper: use a livecd and copy it elsehwhere?05:13
Dr_willisIf data is impornt enogh to notlose.. its important enough to backup. :)05:13
variantripper: porn can be re-downloaded ;)05:13
ReverseBladewell said Dr_willis05:13
dkeshHi, I run hoary on a server.  Uptime of 350 days, then it had to be rebooted, and since then it won't stay up for longer than 2 or 3 days.  It locks up completely, but doesn't reboot until power cycle.  My guess is some package I updated in the meantime is unstable.  Are there any known instabilities in late-stage hoary?05:13
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Dr_willisFile servers are out friends. :)05:13
ReverseBlade!ubuntu-server05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:14
ReverseBladedkesh, #ubuntu-server05:14
dkeshreverseBlade: thanks05:14
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ReverseBladeyou know you can use gmali as your drive and mount it ?05:14
ReverseBladegmail05:15
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nmsa!edgy05:15
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:15
variantdkesh: ReverseBlade yeah good point.. we should suggrest that too him nextt ime he is here05:15
{_-IcE-_}can someone tell me the difference between Command and Input to Command when scheduling cron jobs via webmin please?05:15
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variantReverseBlade: I wonder if you can span multiple gmail accounts in a kind of raid setup :)05:16
ReverseBladevariant, lol05:16
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ReverseBladevariant, would be foolish to do, because gmail itself raided I guess05:16
ReverseBladelol05:16
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robertwoesHello.  I downloaded unbuntu, but it says that I need something to open a torrent file.  What do I use?05:17
variantrobertwoes: azureus is good05:17
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ReverseBladerobertwoes, www.getautomatix.com05:18
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variantReverseBlade: grr05:18
variantReverseBlade: if you must suggest that please at least include a warning that it may break your system05:18
ReverseBladevariant, I really wouldn'r recommend it, if it wasn't that great05:18
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variant!automatix05:18
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.05:18
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defryskReverseBlade, just dont reccomend it05:18
defryskits not sup[oorted05:18
defrysksupported05:18
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ReverseBladevariant, I know that but warning for automatix is an old thing. IT is now good and stable enough05:18
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robertwoesi will use azureus, thanks05:18
robertwoes:)05:19
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Donald1How can i make my wireless connect at login?05:19
ripperok ReverseBlade it didnt work05:19
leahciMichi, i was wandering if someone could help me with a bit of a serious problem ?05:19
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variantReverseBlade: if a user calles the ubuntu support line and says he used automatix to set up then they wont help them as the system is in an unpredictable state05:19
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ReverseBladedefrysk, I will recommend it unless some authority says otherwise05:19
defrysksure05:19
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defryskReverseBlade, I will continue warning then05:20
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raintheorydoes anyone testing Edgy have weird progress bars?05:20
defryskunless some authority says otherwise05:20
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whysowhats this mean in apt-get update? :  GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371805:20
ReverseBladedefrysk, it is not because I am stubborn. It is because I believe it really works05:20
leahciMici had weird progress bars on the usplash... seens funny colors thought it was normal... occasionally it looks diff05:20
defryskReverseBlade, sure05:20
defryskI'm not stubborn either05:20
variantReverseBlade: not only that, it automates the installation of non free software, so you assume that all users of ubuntu dont care about their rights05:20
leahciMichow can i remove everything under the metapackage ubuntu-minimal and re-install it ... (edgy) something TERRIBLE has happened.05:21
ReverseBladevariant, that's bs you know05:21
defrysknot bs05:21
variantReverseBlade: it is? please enlighten me05:21
defryskits true05:21
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raintheorymy progress bars in gnome dont fill in, but the text changes to whitish when it would be getting to it, so it looks really weird05:21
ReverseBladephilosophically I am against all the copyrights things05:21
leahciMictry a different themee ?05:21
ripperim going to sleep05:21
catalyticis windowmaker like another gui?05:21
variantReverseBlade: so don't assume everyone else holds the same views as you05:22
catalyticlike xfce, kde, gnome?05:22
raintheorytried different themes and everything05:22
robertwoesis azureus free software?05:22
leahciMicyes catalytic05:22
ReverseBladeI don't05:22
variantraintheory: odd05:22
catalyticis it possible to load windowsmaker as my gui instead of xfce?05:22
catalyticwith xubuntu?05:22
variantcatalytic: yes, in gdm select windowmaker as the windowmanager05:22
raintheoryrobertwoes: yes i beleive it is05:22
leahciMicrobertwoes it depends in what sense of the word, it may be free to download, but is the source available ?, is there copyrighted code/material in the source ?05:23
catalyticis that the fact that I am using xfce with ubuntu the only reason it is called Xubuntu?05:23
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robertwoesi mean is it open source free software05:23
variantcatalytic: yep, it is an ubuntu themed xfce05:23
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variantReverseBlade: yes05:23
Donald1How do i do to make my wireless connect without having to put in my WEP?05:23
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variantrobertwoes: yes05:23
robertwoesexcellent05:23
robertwoesthanks05:23
variantrobertwoes: however you will have to use the non-free java runtime environment05:23
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airesinaTE animas a ablar05:24
variantrobertwoes: although, I think ubuntu has a gcc compiled version05:24
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robertwoesk05:24
sureshotDonald1 i dont know how to do it in ubuntu but you need a profile for your wireless to automaticly login when you connect05:24
raintheoryi've been looking for an azureus alternative actually...   keeps eating up my memory and swap05:24
raintheoryon dapper anyway05:24
wrabbit^variant: thanks for that05:24
Donald1Sureshot: how do create a profile?05:24
variantwrabbit^: for what?05:25
airesinaJose estas metido05:25
wrabbit^variant: oh, I asked how to close x05:25
variantwrabbit^: ok :)05:25
wrabbit^variant: was a little while ago ;)05:25
variantairesina: this is an english speaking channel.05:25
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sureshotDonald1 you need to ask the room for that i dont use web but and i dont know but i thought you deserved and answer at least to point you in the correct direction05:25
wrabbit^So now I'm running edgy(I think) with the beta nvidia drivers05:25
leahciMichow can i re-install corrupt dpkg binaries ?05:25
wrabbit^all is good finally05:25
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airesinaouifofkfk05:25
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variantwrabbit^: cool, good luck.05:26
lgonzaleztu ere mu tota05:26
airesinaTe animas a ablar luis05:26
Qrioushi peeps05:26
sureshotcan someone tell Donald1 how to set up a wep profile for his wireless05:26
variantsureshot: would if i new :)05:26
ks1System>Administration>Networking05:26
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Qriouswep profile? to access WEP or host it?05:27
soundrayDonald1, sureshot: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking05:27
robin_Will 6.10 launch 26 october?05:27
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variantrobin_: with luck05:27
Qriousif it was gonna be delayed it would be by now I'm guessing05:27
robin_variant: ok05:27
ks1robin_: as far as we know.05:27
Donald1thank you Soundray05:27
QriousRC1 is due out tomorrow05:28
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sureshotsoundray thanks man i will do that for other people but i dont use wep due to the face i live so far out i dont need security lol05:28
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QriousHey, does anyone feel like helping me out setting up IMAP/SSL?05:28
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catalyticum05:28
robin_Will FireFox 2 be finished before it releases?05:28
sureshotDonald1 i got your message man sorry i guess i need to reregister my nick or somthing05:28
catalyticthis is prolly another super retardo question05:29
catalyticbut all these different breeds of linux05:29
Donald1sureshot: ok, thanks again man05:29
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variantrobin_: no idea, check mozilla site05:29
catalyticubuntu, xubuntu, slackware, dsl, etc05:29
variantrobin_: i wouldnt have thought so05:29
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kosnickis there any app like msn or yahoo mesenger that can have audio chats?05:29
catalyticare all just different gui interfaces for the same linux?05:29
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catalyticor are there 2 or three core linux types?05:29
robin_variant: ok05:29
catalyticdebian, redhat, BSD etc?05:30
variantcatalytic: you can use any interface on any distro05:30
catalyticok05:30
sureshotDonald1 np05:30
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variantcatalytic: there are main distros and there are main interfaces to those distros05:30
Qriouscatalytic: the source code is mostly the same, and the interface is mostly the same, it's in the configuration that they differ05:30
catalyticwhat are the main differences between distro's?05:30
icheynekosnick,  try skype05:30
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grubenponycatalytic: BSD is not Linux05:30
leahciMiccatalytic; the different distributions are a collection of pre-setup software on top of the linux kernel... IE some might use kde, some gnome some both.05:30
catalyticok i see05:30
variantcatalytic: thats not a question easily answerd05:30
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catalyticwhat is bsd?05:31
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variantleahciMic: some neither05:31
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leahciMicbsd is unix05:31
variantcatalytic: linspire05:31
catalyticah i see05:31
sudharshcatalytic, a cousin of linux..kinda05:31
Qriousbsd uses a different kernel05:31
variantcatalytic: it is bad, very very bad :)05:31
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leahciMiclinux is 'clone' of unix05:31
catalyticso my mac which is running on osx is running off of bsd, which is unix05:31
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grubenponycatalytic: BSD is a different kernel, has nothing to do with linux05:31
icheynetell kosnick about skype05:31
catalyticand my pc here is running xfce ontop of ubuntu ontop of debian05:31
fredlhi guys, I want to install php5-gd but it gives me a weird error which I think is because I've had the dotdeb pkg installed before: http://pastebin.ca/20833905:31
Mikel0anybody know how to install ff 2.0 rc3 on ubuntu05:31
icheyne!tell kosnick about skype05:31
Qriousone version of BSD, there are handful05:31
leahciMiclinus tovarlds really wanted a unix system but at the time unix just was too expensive or he didn't like it so he made his own kernel105:32
Mikel0!firefox05:32
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins05:32
kosnickicheyne : ok but i can not have voice chat with someone who uses msn or yahoo messenge then05:32
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fredldoes anybody here have php5-gd installed?05:32
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QriousIs anyone here good at mail server?05:32
Qriouss05:32
grubenponycatalytic: actually, BSD is one flavour of unix. learn about unix history on wikipedia.05:32
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catalyticok05:32
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Allz-i-i need help guys my keyboard is all fine .but i cant use caps luck it just dont work :<05:32
leahciMicyeah there's also flavors of bsd, freebsd, openbsd etc05:33
catalyticim installing windowsmaker on synaptic at the moment05:33
soundrayQrious: ask your question. Don't ask metaquestions.05:33
LimonJalisciensei installed my hp laserjet 1020 i shared it but i cant print throu the network can anyone help me?05:33
leahciMicbsd is really for servers, and should not be used as a desktop replacement.05:33
catalyticwhen its installed, i log out and should have the option of starting a windowsmaker session?05:33
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whysowhats this mean in apt-get update? :  GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371805:33
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LimonJalisciensehelp!05:33
grubenponycatalytic: the name is windowmaker (without the s)05:33
leahciMicyes05:33
eXistenZleahciMic, What's your preferred mp3 player?05:33
QriousI'm trying to set up SSL on IMAP/SMTP as well as FTP, does anyone know any good howtos?05:33
ReverseBladecatalytic, FreeBSD is dead05:34
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leahciMiceXistenZ, xmms05:34
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Qriousopen source doesn't die, it just sleeps05:34
leahciMicwhat is urs ?05:34
grubenponyReverseBlade: huh?05:34
catalyticwhat freeBSD got to do with anything?05:34
fredlFreeBSD is dea????05:34
ReverseBladeFreeBSD is dead05:34
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grubenponyReverseBlade: why?05:34
ReverseBladeone of it's co-founder admits this05:34
variantsince when?05:34
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ReverseBladegradually it is dead, like php05:35
variantI work in a datacenter and i can assure you that its very much alive05:35
chowsapaldoes the livecd include wpasupplicant and knetworkmanager?05:35
leahciMicok when i try and boot linux i get Error 15: File not found05:35
ReverseBladePHP , the most used ,scripting language is dead as well05:35
grubenponyReverseBlade: so it won't be developed any further?05:35
fredlReverseBlade, cool, PHP died? LOL05:35
catalyticyes chow05:35
fredldamn05:35
catalyticit has wpasupplicant05:35
variantReverseBlade: lol, your off your face05:35
ReverseBladefredl, I am an expert on PHP05:35
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QriousPHP dead? say what?05:35
eXistenZReverseBlade, This really show what kind of an expert you are.05:35
leahciMicPHP is not dead.05:36
eXistenZs/show/shows05:36
catalyticbut i think u are better off writing ur on scripts and .conf instead of using the inbuilt network manager05:36
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fredlReverseBlade, cool, maybe you can help me with this error message then http://pastebin.ca/20833905:36
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fredlReverseBlade, I think you meant to say "Java is Dead" right?05:36
ReverseBladeQrious, it doesn't make sense, to make further development with Plain PHP. now we have rails, django, java and .net05:36
leahciMiclol java is also the in thing05:36
catalyticjava is not dead05:36
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leahciMicjava is no where near dead05:36
grubenponyReverseBlade: your definition of dead is "is not actively developed" rather that "is not widely used"?05:36
ReverseBladejava is dying slowly also05:36
defryskjava is too fat to die05:37
grubenponydefrysk: hehe05:37
fredlwell obesity kills05:37
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leahciMic.net, java, rails.... fucking lazy programmers, long live C/C++ PHP etc05:37
variantReverseBlade: you make an excellent comedian05:37
whysowhat isnt dyng :)05:37
chowsapalcatalytic: yeah -- well my girlfriend doesn't really know how to write her own scripts every time her comp boots up on the liveCD :)05:37
variant!language05:37
defrysktoo much cholesterol05:37
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:37
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ReverseBladegrubenpony, it is , that product will bring at most new version or so , not more05:37
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fredlwell what do C/C++ and PHP have in common?!?!?!?!05:37
catalytic"over a long enough timeline everythings survival rate reduces to zero"05:37
ReverseBladegrubenpony, one new version05:37
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ReverseBladePHP 6 is coming05:37
ReverseBladebut I still consider is dead05:37
chowsapaldoes the Gnome wireless GUI support WPA yet?05:37
defryskajax seems to be the new thing05:38
catalytichey chowsapal05:38
leahciMicPHP has close resemblence to c++05:38
ReverseBladeanyway it is for #ubuntu-offtopic05:38
variantchowsapal: I am not sure but i think its fairly experimental05:38
leahciMicajax is a collection of technologies and not just a technology05:38
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ReverseBladePHP , c$$no way05:38
catalytici just finished installing xubuntu onto my g/f's laptop05:38
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ReverseBladec++05:38
blitheHrm, what's the latest stable kernel in the repositories?05:38
fredlchowsapal, nope. unless you install network-manager05:38
defryskuname -r is05:38
catalyticand i set it all up so it is "g/f" proof05:38
ReverseBlade2.6.17 I guess05:38
catalyticeg you turn it on and it works05:38
fredlchowsapal, haven't gotten it to work myself yet though :)05:38
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catalytichad to install the cd onto a partition tho05:38
QriousI recently tried xubuntu, the best tool I've found for wifi is wifi-radar05:39
variantReverseBlade: what was that crap you were saying earlyer when you were whining in private to me about keeping the channel on topic? "the channel is not for discussion its for user support" so take your OWN advice05:39
blitheDo kernel updates show up in 'auto-update'?05:39
leahciMicno trust me php is similar to C++, ignore the automatic variable, type conversions etc.05:39
chowsapalcatalytic: yeah, it will be easy to make it GF-proof on the disk install05:39
Dragonfireif I could only get java to run plug in I will accomplish a miricle05:39
chowsapalbut for the liveCD it's harder05:39
blitheBecause it hasn't told me I need to go to 2.6.17...05:39
catalyticmake sure u have the right drivers for ur wifi before u use network-manager05:39
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catalyticit kept hanging my system05:39
blitheI'm still on 2.6.15.05:39
soundrayblithe: you don't.05:39
chowsapalthe card shows up fine05:39
ReverseBladevariant, look above, I criticized my self05:39
catalyticnow its setup so u never have to touch it05:39
chowsapalbut her housemates have WPA setup...05:39
Dragonfiredarn laws of the land I want my java plug ins05:39
leahciMicman is anyone going to help me :(05:39
soundrayblithe: if you're on dapper, stick with 2.6.15 until edgy is released.05:39
blithesoundray: I can still update manually right?05:39
fredlcatalytic, I know :P there's only few wifi cards fully supported by network-manager05:39
ReverseBladevalehru, <ReverseBlade> anyway it is for #ubuntu-offtopic05:39
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soundrayblithe: it's not recommended.05:40
variantleahciMic: what was the problem? i didnt see it because of all the mindless chatter :)_05:40
defrysksome need some chill05:40
blitheRoger.05:40
blitheJust curious.05:40
whysowhat isnt dyng :)05:40
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whysowhats this mean in apt-get update? :  GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371805:40
catalyticif u want to use WPA u cant use the network-manager05:40
fredlcan anybody tell me why this happens: http://pastebin.ca/20833905:40
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leahciMicsorry variant... are you able to read a forum post i made to save re-typing ?05:40
soundrayblithe: the 2.6.17 package depends on edgy's libc, and if you upgrade that, you might as well do the full distribution upgrade.05:40
variantwhyso: it means you have to add the gpg key tot he system05:40
catalyticu have to manually configure it05:40
defryskwhyso, its explained on http://packages.freecontrib.org05:40
defryskjust read it05:40
whysook thakns05:40
variantwhyso: there is a comment in sources.list at the top that tells you how05:40
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fredlcatalytic, you can use network-manager for WPA, what are you talking about?05:41
defryskno its not :s05:41
chowsapalso I just need to apt-get install network-manager?05:41
leahciMicvariant; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1632011#post1632011 < that is my problem :( please help05:41
DragonfireSoon as I get JAva to work I will be riding like these guy's05:41
Dragonfirehttp://www.linux-mag.com/download/2003-12/cover/easy_rider.jpg05:41
fredlwell at least that's what it says. mind you network-manager is not the default network thingie in GNOME.05:41
airesinaComo o las apaais tios05:41
blithesoundray: Good to know, thanks.05:41
fredlcatalytic, yeah and network-manager-gnome I believe05:41
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airesiname deciis paginas wew05:42
ReverseBladevariant, , <ReverseBlade> anyway it is for #ubuntu-offtopic05:42
cwill2what's the name of the terminal mode utility to configure sound?05:42
fredlthat's offtopic that offtopic talk ReverseBlade05:42
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variantcwill2: alsaconf and its not in ubuntu05:42
catalyticfredl05:42
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cwill2thx05:42
fredlyes ?05:43
ReverseBladefredl, what ?05:43
airesina, knh ,k.hl05:43
variantcwill2: annoyingly05:43
cwill2alsamixer05:43
catalyticwhenever I opened network manager there was no wpa05:43
catalyticonly WEP05:43
variantwho hda the php dependancy problems?05:43
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catalyticthere were like 3 buttons05:43
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catalyticu could choose ASCII or hex WEP and that was it05:43
leahciMicvariant; we're u able to take a look at my problem at all ?05:43
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catalyticoh, and the ssid05:43
ReverseBladefredl, there is difference between an lengthy offtopic talk and offtopic statement05:43
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variantleahciMic: Its hard to follow any conversatiion here :)05:43
variantleahciMic: i am looking05:43
fredlReverseBlade, if you say so :P05:43
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leahciMicvariant: thankyou... and i know waht u mean :P05:44
defryskwhyso, http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/05:44
defryskwhyso, correct link05:44
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soundrayleahciMic: I think rescuing your system will be more pain than it's worth. Backup whatever is left of the /etc directory and do a reinstall. Also consider backing up /var if you have databases, email spools etc. that you want to keep.05:44
variantleahciMic: ah, thats a bit of a pain.. we can only hope that windows didnt "fix" it to much!05:44
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Uqbarhello all. does anybody have an ipod? can you show me the mount options with which dapper mounts it?05:44
fredlcatalytic, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Network_Manager_with_WPA05:44
variantleahciMic: we can probably fix it if its not too badly damanged05:44
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leahciMicit's not that badly damaged05:45
leahciMici believe05:45
catalyticwill that work ok in xfce?05:45
variantleahciMic: which parititon did it check?05:45
daisukiwill zune be able to work in ubuntu ?05:45
Qriousanybody here know about setting up SSL?05:45
soundrayleahciMic: okay, in that case I will leave you in the hands of variant, the optimist :)05:45
fredlcatalytic, except, network-manager is rather difficult to get it to work :(05:45
variantsoundray: :)05:45
catalyticill leave it how it is05:45
catalyticas it is working fine05:46
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soundrayQrious: that is another metaquestion05:46
catalyticand I know that as soon as i open it, it will pooch my settings05:46
soundray!metaquestion05:46
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:46
leahciMic/dev/hda2 (which is my linux / partition) /home is fine thank god05:46
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deadkennyis it possible to set a dis quota for a specific directory (and not for a user)05:46
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variantleahciMic: reboot to the live cd and run an fsck on /dev/hda2 if that works then you should be in the clear05:46
fredlGrrr, can anybody help me with this: http://pastebin.ca/20833905:46
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variantfredl: ahh, it was you :)05:47
grokcan anyone tell me how to change my default soundcard (and not just through the system>sound gui, it doesnt' work)05:47
fredlsomehow apt has remembered that I had the dotdeb package installed.05:47
fredlvariant, huh?05:47
variantfredl: have you tried apt-get installing one of those unmet dependancies?05:47
ReverseBladefredl, are you trying to install php5-gd intentionally ?05:47
soundraydeadkenny: not sure if this helps, but with tune2fs you can reserve blocks on a filesystem for root05:47
whysodangit i still dont get it, how to i mkae apt-get give the pgp key05:47
variantfredl: i had the link open but couldnt remember who had the problem :P05:47
fredlReverseBlade, yes05:47
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ReverseBladefredl, you  can always compile php as last resort05:48
keithhhh1what kind of pluggins do you guys use for blogging?05:48
deadkennysoundray: just for root?05:48
fredlvariant, I think apt should do that by itself right?05:48
soundraydeadkenny: yes05:48
leahciMicvariant; done that.. it reports no errors now... i can mount the partition view everyting on it, chroot to it, run apps, run apt-get run aptitude.. but grub won't boot it. says Error 15, file not found... i thought it meant the vmlinuz and other boot images, i checked, double checked, deleted removed uninstalled and reinstalled the packages for the linux image etc, and still wont boot from same error....05:48
defryskwhyso, wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -05:48
fredlvariant, I mean, that's what apt is for... :)05:48
variantfredl: yes, somtimes dependancies become brokenthough05:48
fredlvariant, yes that's because I removed one line from my sources.list I think05:48
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fredlvariant, and I have after that apt-get update'd05:48
deadkennysoundray: oh no good! :P im trying to run an ftp server with vsftpd and virtual users, having a hard time finding info on setting disk quotas for each user (or their directory)05:48
variantleahciMic: ok, you probably only have to re-run grub installation05:49
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fredlvariant, but it still seems to 'know' something about it though.05:49
deadkennysoundray: thing is they are not real users, they only exist in the pam database05:49
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leahciMicvariant; done already...05:49
variantfredl: try apt-get install php5-common05:49
dooglusI have installed network-manager-gnome, but don't see any new icon in the taskbar.05:49
daisuki#channels05:49
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dooglusis there something I need to do to see the icon?05:49
keithhhh1 what kind of pluggins do you guys use for blogging?05:49
soundraydeadkenny: have you investigated whether vsftp makes any such provision?05:49
fredlphp5-common is already the newest version.05:49
fredl0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:49
jekello everyone05:50
ReverseBladefredl, you screwed up I think05:50
variantfredl: apt-get remove it, then rerun the original command that you are having the problem with05:50
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variantfredl: apt-get remove php5-common05:50
ReverseBladefredl, just remove php5-common  and install it from ubuntu repos05:50
variantfredl: then apt-get install php5-gd05:50
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hmrochahello, i'm creating a custom ubuntu livecd05:50
deadkennysoundray: from what ive read no, people recommend proftpd for quotas and flexbility, but ive read that proftpd is not that secure and that vsftpd is the most secure out there05:50
waylandbillfredl, it's trying to pull 5.1.4 from some other source.05:50
fredlHmm, it can't remove it....05:50
grokanyone konw where i can find the file .asoundrc?05:50
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hmrochai want to change de keymapping of the gnome session05:51
ReverseBladehmrocha, good for you05:51
variantleahciMic: are you sure you specified the correct kernel image?05:51
catalyticcan i run gnome apps in xfce?05:51
fredlshould I try removing it with force?05:51
hmrochawhere can i change that?05:51
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ReverseBladecatalytic, yes natively05:51
fredldpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of php5-common:05:51
whysohmmm it says displays the key and says it saved it, but when i try to add it it errors: gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory05:51
leahciMicpositively... in grub i used auto complete to find the kernel... it is there...05:51
alpha-lappyhi, I'm having an issue with the Nvidia beta binaries, with an API mismatch... what module, and where, do I disable?  Does anyone have a solution?05:51
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varianthmrocha: there is a keyboard layout switcher in the gnome-panel applets05:51
hmrochaReverseBlade: good for you too05:51
ReverseBladehmrocha, what is good for me ?05:51
variantleahciMic: what error do you get during boot please?05:51
defryskwhyso, try : gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 0x12B83718 ;  gpg --export -a 0x12B83718 | sudo apt-key add -05:52
leahciMicError 15: file not found05:52
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hmrochaReverseBlade: the same you said it was good for me05:52
variantleahciMic: thats it?05:52
defryskwhyso, that one should work05:52
dooglusI have installed network-manager-gnome, but don't see any new icon in the taskbar.  is there something I need to do to see the icon?05:52
leahciMicyeap05:52
hmrochavariant: i don't want the students to use the layout switcher05:52
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ReverseBladehmrocha, it can't be good for me. Becuase you are compilling that CD for your own sake05:52
fredlvariant, I tried dpkg --purge php5-common but that won't work unless I do a force. When I try to apt-get remove php5-common, it wants to remove a whole slew of other packages.05:52
hmrochavariant: i want them to boot with the correct keymap already05:52
varianthmrocha: ok.. you can specify a default.. I dont remember how to do that unfortunatly05:52
waylandbillfredl, sounds like you installed something from outside the ubuntu repos that brought in the 5.1.4 version.05:52
variantfredl: hmm thats a problem05:52
defryskwhyso, forget that one05:52
hmrochavariant: ok, i'll continue searching google05:52
ReverseBladefredl, it is not that , you have some repos that installs 5.1.405:53
varianthmrocha: sorry, i only know how to do it in gentoo. i will take a look on google myself in a momment05:53
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ReverseBladefredl, remove all extra repos, remove purge all php, then re install it05:53
fredlwaylandbill, yup, I had PHP5 long before it was in ubuntu from the dotdeb repo05:53
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hmrochavariant: how do you do it in gentoo?05:53
robertwoesi installed azureus and it says 'Testing port 41565 ... NAT Error' == what should i do now?05:53
defryskwhyso, wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -05:53
defrysktry that05:53
whysoah cool trying :)05:53
varianthmrocha: its a userlocale setting.. i cant even remember that off the top of my head now :05:53
fredlHmmm05:53
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hmrochavariant: ok, thanks anyway05:54
fredlwell I can remove all those packages and simply reinstall those too I guess05:54
variantrobertwoes: open a rule on your firewall permitting bittorrent traffic05:54
robertwoesok05:54
waylandbillfredl, in order to take out 5.1.4, you need to take out what it depending on it.05:54
robertwoesthanks valehru05:54
variantrobertwoes: some ISP's block bittorrent05:54
robertwoesoops variant05:54
ReverseBladefredl, just make sure you don'T have any extra repos i05:54
fredlwaylandbill, doign that now.05:54
whysoYES THANKS!!!!!05:54
robertwoesi have earthlink dialup05:54
variantrobertwoes: its ok, everyone calles me valehru05:54
whysototally fixed05:54
variant:P05:54
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robertwoeslol05:54
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fredlReverseBlade, I checked, in my sources.list all the old repos are out05:54
defryskwhyso, cool05:54
ReverseBladelol05:54
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robertwoesok be back05:55
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variantwhyso: what was the probelm again?05:55
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ReverseBladefredl, not old ones, just remove the non standard ones05:55
ReverseBladefredl, comment them out05:55
defryskwhyso, bookmark http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf for later reference05:55
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ReverseBladephp is dead anyway :)05:56
fredlhehe05:56
ReverseBladerails rocks05:56
uhmmmReverseBlade, php lives!!!05:56
whysogotit! the problem was apt-get update was failing cause it didnt have the correct gpg key05:56
defryskdeja vu ?05:56
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fredlalright, it works now remarkable that that dotdeb dependancy somehow survived in my system without causing problems05:56
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ReverseBladeuntil now05:56
leahciMicvariant; ok retried grub-install... i'll let u know how it goes..05:56
whysoi know rails is cool, but why u call php dead?05:57
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variantleahciMic: gl05:57
defryskdoes php have an afterlife ?05:57
variantwhyso: dont start him going again05:57
uhmmmReverseBlade, =)05:57
fredlargh now my webserver thinks PHP files are PHTML files again05:57
ReverseBladewhyso, the upcoming version brings little benefit (mostly unicode). PHP web developing techniques are vastly outdated05:57
robertwoesi set a rule to allow all incoming and outgoing udp/tcp connections on all port to azureus.exe == is that safe?05:57
fredlGod I hope the apt-get remove didn't throw all my configs away....05:58
ReverseBladewhyso, but there are nice frameworks like prado on PHP.05:58
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defryskanything .exe is unsafe05:58
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variantrobertwoes: it will do, would be better to set the port numbers specifically  but it should work05:58
variantk05:58
robertwoeslet me do that05:58
defryskrobertwoes, portforward.com05:58
robertwoes:)05:58
variantReverseBlade: take your own advice for a change PLEASE05:58
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soundraydeadkenny: my impression is that vsftp is designed primarily for ftp downloading, and not really as a fileexchange.05:58
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leahciMicvariant; i think im onto something...05:59
variantleahciMic: cool, grub install worked?05:59
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leahciMicno not exactly05:59
variantleahciMic: hmm :)05:59
ReverseBladevariant, there is a difference between a lengthy discussion and a simple statement. I believe my conversation does not create any extra traffic here05:59
boink!release05:59
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases05:59
robertwoesok changed the port to 41565 only06:00
variantReverseBlade: /ignore ReverseBlade all (that certainly reduces the traffic you cause06:00
robertwoesthanks variant06:00
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leahciMicfor some reason it had (0,2) instead of (0,1) ..06:00
Rope!iso06:00
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows06:00
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variantleahciMic: new it :)06:00
elvari need help guys  i changed my keyboard to icelandic .but my problem is now .i cant use caps luck and some more keyboard stuff .:i did the command xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.is  to change my keyboard layout to icelandic06:00
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elvarplease help me!06:00
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leahciMicchanged and did root=/dev/hda2 and it worked !!106:00
boink!schedule06:00
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule06:00
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whysojeezus guys he was jsut answering my question dont throttle him!06:01
leahciMicthanks for being patient with me variant; i knew all wasn't lost, i just needed someone to vent too while i boggled my mind and experimented... thanks for your input ...06:01
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AsheDI am setting up a little box that I wish to passively cooled, would a 1600+ @ 1GHz or a 950+ @ 800MHz run cooler?06:01
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scobie!nvidia06:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:01
varianthmrocha: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/map!!!06:01
leahciMicnothing has been lost i didn't have to format... :)06:02
varianthmrocha: thanks to scobie for that :)06:02
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variantleahciMic: great stuff06:02
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variantleahciMic: what was the problem? just the wrong digit06:02
variant?06:02
hmrochavariant: i just need to change the xorg.conf keymapping from us to pt i suppose, i'll try creating the livecd with this setting06:02
leahciMicalthough i always keep /home seperate just in case... but i just really didn't want to setup my system again... i didn't want to have to upgrade to edgy, install the latest nvidia drivers, mess with things etc...06:02
robertwoesok now i have the ubuntu download torrent on my disk, should i just drag and drop into azureus?06:02
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George_Harrisonhey...06:03
A[D] minS!ubuntu06:03
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome06:03
varianthmrocha: you see the xmodmap comment?06:03
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A[D] minS!apache06:03
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.06:03
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soundrayscobie: any reason why you aren't choosing your layout via System-Prefs-Keyboard?06:03
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catalyticomg06:03
catalyticwindowmaker is disgusting06:03
AJ--just click the torrent file robertwoes06:03
leahciMicvariant; yeah sort of... alot of other things were broke too... i removed everything from ubuntu-minimal ... and re-installed it all... then it for some reason put all the wrong information in my menu.lst.... fixed it all now06:03
variantrobertwoes: yep, should work likethat06:03
George_Harrisonim thinking about use ubuntu, and i want to see a "changelog", someone has the link?06:03
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etienne_hi06:03
catalyticfeels like using a screen made out of lego bricks06:03
robertwoessweet06:04
etienne_anyone has a good alternative to visio for ubuntu?06:04
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AJ--robertwoes: just click the torrent file and it will run the azureus06:04
leahciMicyeah i didn't think u'd like it catalytic; it's more for systems with low resources06:04
soundrayGeorge_Harrison: probably best to start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases06:04
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catalyticwell i saw that dream linux was using the docker06:04
catalyticand thats what wanted me to test it06:04
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catalyticis dream linux another gui?06:05
leahciMicok variant; this is how corrupt the menu.lst was...06:05
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leahciMictitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-38606:05
leahciMicroot(hd0,2) (hd0,2)06:05
leahciMickernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=UUID=26d04b45-8d09-4d7e-9879-26a8611200d4 ro root=UUID=26d04b45-8d09-4d7e-9879-26a8611200d4 ro quiet splash quiet splash06:05
leahciMicinitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-38606:05
leahciMicsavedefault06:05
leahciMicboot06:05
leahciMicit should've been (hd0,1) etc..06:05
variantetienne_: dia06:05
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variantetienne_: http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/06:06
jekwould this link be ok for a 3.0 ghz hyperthreading intel ?     ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso06:06
fredlHrmmmm after an apt-get install php5 SHOULD PHP not automatically be enabled??06:06
variantfredl: yes06:06
fredlor do I need to manually enable the module?06:06
AJ--jek : thats more than enough06:06
jekkk ty06:06
leahciMicfredl; try restarting apache...06:07
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fredlleahciMic, tried that...06:07
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fredlleahciMic, but apache doesn't seem to be loading the module06:07
leahciMicdid u install the right version and not the command line version ?06:07
fredlI did apt-get install php506:07
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fredlthe module is there in the /etc/apache2/mods-available dir...06:08
leahciMici think it's like apache-module-php5 or something go into synaptic and search for it06:08
uhmmmfredl, thats cl stuff i believe06:08
scobieFind the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8. ,okei what does it mean .i have amd6406:08
scobieso should i install it?06:08
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variantleahciMic: what do you mean the command line version?06:08
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fredlphp5 is 'cl stuff' ??06:08
fredlehr06:08
fredlreally..06:08
uhmmmnono06:08
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uhmmmsorry06:08
fredlok06:08
variantleahciMic: it makes no difference if you use synaptic or apt-get to isntall software, you get the same version06:08
leahciMicyeah i'm sure the apache module is named something else... have a look06:08
leahciMici know but apt-get u can't ctrl+F06:09
uhmmmleahciMic, exactly06:09
variantleahciMic: thats what apt-cache search is for06:09
leahciMici wld've said apt-get... but i couldn't remember the package name06:09
fredllibapache2-mod-php506:09
variantits 100 times faster06:09
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soundrayetienne_: there are several good visualization packages for ubuntu, but they tend to be geared more towards scientific applications and less towards business applications. gnuplot and R come to mind.06:09
leahciMicyeah but then i'd have to explain how to use it when he goes, WTF?06:09
jeki am setting up  a pc with one hdd and on it i am gonna put ubuntu and edubuntu for my kid how would i go forward with that? just install ubuntu first then use gparted to to shrink half the hdd too to have an unalocated partition to install edubuntu?06:09
waylandbillaptitude is nice as well.06:09
variantleahciMic: apt-cache search php06:10
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variantleahciMic: apt-cache search php506:10
leahciMicok going to boot nasty windows again... i hope it doesn't do it again :( *fingers crossed*06:10
variantthere you go :)06:10
leahciMiclol06:10
variantlol06:10
soundrayleahciMic: hold on...06:10
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soundrayleahciMic: you should set a partition type that Windows ignores.06:10
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AJ--jek: are u running a live CD??06:10
progekJust curious, can windows users have multiple work spaces like linux?06:10
soundrayleahciMic: hex83 for example06:11
jeki will be06:11
variantprogek: there are plugins to do that06:11
leahciMicit should ignore reiserfs paritionts shouldn't it ?06:11
progekso they can install XGL and what not?06:11
uhmmmleahciMic, yes06:11
jekusing live cd for both06:11
variantleahciMic: yeah, any non windows partition06:11
variantprogek: no, xgl is an xserver..06:11
variantprogek: that wont run on windows06:11
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soundrayleahciMic: it should, but it doesn't decide that based on the filesystem, but on the partition type that is set in the partition table.06:11
leahciMicwell it didn't once ... :( not going to take chances going to stop it from checking drives full stop06:11
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AJ--jek: u can use gparted then partation ur drive into two linux partation.. 1 for ubuntu ang 1 for ur edebuntu06:11
progekso only linux can use say XGL+Beryl or compiz06:11
leahciMicthe partition table is set to resierfs06:11
soundrayleahciMic: no, it isn't06:12
waylandbillnot xgl, but there are virtual desktop programs for windows.06:12
variantprogek: and bsd/solaris if they have the will power to make it work06:12
jekAJ: ahhhhh ok06:12
progekI see06:12
variantprogek: but not windows users, no06:12
fredlwell after I installed libapache2-mod-php5, the PHP5 module is NOT enabled, I wonder why06:12
jekAJ: thank you06:12
robertwoesok variant it is downloading with green status... but it is a huge file == will it download in the background for me?  I am on a modem.06:12
leahciMicit isn't ... you remote cfdisk'd me ?06:12
AJ--jek: u can install first ur ubuntu06:12
jekok06:12
variantrobertwoes: if you close the window and start it again the file will resume. you might want to leave it open though06:12
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variantrobertwoes: i dont know if you can minimise to tray or anything with azureus06:13
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fredlI made a symlink in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.load and only then will Apache start up with the PHP header line in the log06:13
soundrayleahciMic: what's the partition type code for reiser?06:13
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robertwoescool06:13
leahciMicno idea.... i didn't check06:14
AJ--robertwoes u can just click the close button.. it will still download the file06:14
variantsoundray: there is not a specific part type for reiser06:14
robertwoesthanks for all the help.06:14
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robertwoeslater peeps06:14
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robertwoes:)06:14
soundrayvariant: my point exactly.06:14
variantsoundray: there is 80 and 81 for linux and linux swap06:14
leahciMicwindows reports the partitions as unkown...06:14
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variantleahciMic: as expected06:14
leahciMicisn't rfs like 8606:14
variantleahciMic: windows is a noob06:14
variantleahciMic: no06:14
soundrayvariant: actually, it's 82 and 83 if you're on hex06:15
AJ--variant : lols06:15
leahciMicyes i understand variant; im just trying to understand why it once tried to check it ?06:15
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wolfbane_691i need help real quick installing a program on ubuntu06:15
variantsoundray: woops06:15
robertwoesvariant looks like in options you can check box check for minimize to try on close06:15
variantAJ--: what you laughin at?06:15
variantrobertwoes: cool06:15
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robertwoesthat is the default06:16
wolfbane_691its about devede06:16
variantleahciMic: no idea, wast htat during windows installation??06:16
robertwoesand you can check minimize minimizes to tray06:16
fredlI hate browser cache06:16
robertwoesbut that is unchecked by default06:16
AJ--<variant> leahciMic: windows is a noob  <--- this line06:16
soundrayleahciMic: there's your problem. If you set it to 86, Windows thinks it's a NTFS volume set.06:16
fredlcan I just say that one more time here? I HATE BROWSER CACHES!06:16
variantfredl: you can turn it off06:16
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variantAJ--: ah :)06:16
jeki am on my other pc that has ubuntu on it. when i reboot to ubuntu to boot up then i get to login screen, I login then right when it logs into my ubuntu desktop it boots me out of my desktop back to ubuntu login menu and i have to do this like 3 times until i get on my ubuntu desktop. is there a way to fix this?06:16
fredlvariant, I know but I always forget.06:16
wolfbane_691can any 1 help real quick06:16
leahciMicits not 86 i was taking a stab at a number06:16
variantfredl: personly i like it :)06:16
variantwolfbane_691: jsut ask06:16
wolfbane_691ok can u help me06:17
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variantwolfbane_691: just ask :)!06:17
variant!ask06:17
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:17
soundrayleahciMic: well, set it to 83 and if Windows checks it again, maybe you have to file a bug report in Redmond...06:17
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progekEverytime I want to play a game, say Battle for Wesnoth for example, I need to turn xgl+beryl off or the game has many transparencies. Is this pretty common for other people?06:17
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l0st1I'm trying to compile something....I'm sorta of a noob....when I type "./cofigure" I get an err message....saying  " Cannot Find Phython include path"....06:17
l0st1do I have to install "Phython" or something06:17
leahciMicmeh im just killing autocheck on windows... and i shall live happily ever after... =)06:18
wolfbane_691ok when i install devede it says no such file or directory06:18
variantprogek: xgl is very alpha software.. dont expect it to work flawlessly. you can use xgame to get round that issue though06:18
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wolfbane_691and i downloaded it06:18
progekl0st1, try installing package build-essential06:18
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progekI see, thanks variant06:18
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variantleahciMic: yes, install python06:18
variantleahciMic: python-dev06:18
wolfbane_691ok06:19
variantwolfbane_691: what is devede?06:19
wolfbane_691dvd burner06:19
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wolfbane_691do i need to get anything06:19
waylandbillwhere did you download it from?06:19
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l0st1I already have "build essential" installed06:20
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wolfbane_691rastersoft.com06:20
variantwolfbane_691: why dont you use k3b? it owns :)06:20
defryskubuntu already has a dvd burner06:20
wolfbane_691hmmm06:20
wolfbane_691k3b?06:20
defrysknoutilus kan also burn dvd's06:20
waylandbillk3b rocks06:20
defryskany burn app can actully06:21
variantwolfbane_691: seriously, k3b is outstanding software (shame its qt but hey)06:21
wolfbane_691do i have to install it06:21
variantwolfbane_691: apt-get install k3b06:21
icheynegnomebaker?06:21
wolfbane_691ok06:21
varianticheyne: dont like it at all06:21
varianticheyne: personally :)06:21
defryskif you dislike qt and related06:21
wolfbane_691it says command not found06:21
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icheyneno prob06:21
icheyne:)06:22
variantdefrysk: Im not that botherd06:22
variantwolfbane_691: as root06:22
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variantwolfbane_691: sudo apt-get install k3b06:22
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defryskvariant, neither am I altho qt is "ugly"06:22
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variantdefrysk: yeah, but k3b is not ugly :)06:22
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defryskcli of course :D06:23
variantdefrysk: and i only use it to burn cd/dvd.. its not like its always ooen06:23
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macdhas anyone encountered this error ' http://pastie.caboo.se/18356 ' ?06:23
wolfbane_691ok thanx u guys rock06:23
elvar!nvidia06:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:23
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variantwolfbane_691: np06:23
waylandbillk3b looks less ugly on a kde session. ;-)06:23
variantpah06:23
alternative3Hi people06:24
BleSSany gui for svn?06:24
wolfbane_691ok so when i wanna install some thing i use root?06:24
robertwoesbbl nice to see everyone again06:24
kmaynardthen you've got the whole kde ugly to deal with :)06:24
defryskmacd, did you try sudo apt-get -f install ?06:24
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alternative3I can't figure out how to refresh a page in Lynx. anyone?06:24
macddefrysk, yes, and tried using aptitude to resolve the problem06:24
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waylandbillkmaynard, lol06:24
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variantalternative3: got me stumped06:24
AJ--alternative3 just press F506:24
AJ--alternative3 just press F506:24
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variantAJ--: cool :)06:25
alternative3DOESn't work ...06:25
AJ--<--- noob06:25
wolfbane_691and root is?06:25
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icheynevariant, http://graveman.tuxfamily.org/screenshot.php?l=e06:25
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wolfbane_691i am very new to this06:25
defryskmacd, I know what I would try but am not sure if its the proper thing to do06:25
wolfbane_691sry06:25
variantwolfbane_691: the superuser (think administrator on windows but more like god less like some scumbag)06:25
icheynegraveman might be worth a look06:25
jkalternative3: ctrl-r / ctrl-l06:25
macddefrysk what would you try?06:25
varianticheyne: why you show me this?06:25
wolfbane_691got cha06:26
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macddoesnt really matter I can always revert to dapper.06:26
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defrysksudo apt-get remove xinit06:26
icheynebecause you could try graveman if you don't like gnomebaker06:26
alternative3CTRL+R :) thanks jk06:26
icheyneuses gtk206:26
wolfbane_691ok thanx a bunch guys06:26
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variantdefrysk: aahha,, dont do that06:26
macdwell it can be reinstalled06:26
defryskvariant, thats why I sayd not sure06:26
variantdefrysk: remove the file /usr/share/man/man5/Xsession.5.gz (back it up) then rerun the command06:27
etienne_variant : just installed dia , it crapped out on me06:27
macdI did that already.06:27
AJ--sorry for that alternative3.. coz i use F5 wen i refresh a page.. but it works for me06:27
defryskvariant, deal :)06:27
macdvariant, already removed it ;P same error.06:27
variantetienne_: unlucky.. sorry to hear that. you should try an alternative06:27
etienne_had to escape to a term to kill it06:27
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l0st1geez what does "cannot find terminal management library readline" mean? and it has "ncurses" "term cap" "curses" in brackets06:27
variantmacd: damn.. xinit is part of xorg though so removing it is not an option really06:27
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macdmaybee removing it then adding the package back06:28
variantCaplain: maybe06:28
catalyticooo ahh i like the look of e1706:28
macdof course the dependencies are going to be unmet06:28
variantcatalytic: yeah its very l337 looking06:28
variantmacd: lol06:28
dabaRl0st1: what gave you the error?06:28
alternative3AJ--: no prob' :)06:28
variantcatalytic: I ran it last year somtime.. was very nice06:28
l0st1"./configure"06:29
catalytici like the idea of the apple doc too06:29
variantcatalytic: animated panel and backgrounds/clocks was all very slick06:29
der0betienne_: have you looked into openoffice draw?  I'm not sure if it's what you need, but may be06:29
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catalyticshit its 2am06:29
catalyticcya06:29
alternative3bye06:29
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etienne_der0b trying to draw a rack06:29
defryskmacd, sudo apt-get  install xorg -f ?06:29
defryskor something06:30
l0st1I'm trying to compile something....first it gave some "Python" error so I fixed that.....and when I ran "./configure" it gave me that err message06:30
dabaRl0st1: post the error on pastebin, please.06:30
defrysksomething = ?06:30
etienne_lol06:30
macdis there a way to clear the package list? as in removing the partials?06:30
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macdapt-get -f install x11-common ;P06:31
defryskyes06:31
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AJ--is there any driver for cannon pixma mp150 ???06:32
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l0st1ummm....what's pastebin....lol06:32
defryskl0st1, topic06:32
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defrysk!pastebin06:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:32
ATAQhey all, does anyone know a good nfs browser for Xubuntu?06:32
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jeki am having a problem logging itno ubuntu from the ubuntu login screen... when i login into my desktop it boots me out back to the ubuntu login screen... I have to login 3 or 4 times till ubuntu lets me stay in my desktop. would anyone know why this is happening?06:33
bertugoluHey ppl, i had an nvidia graphic card and had the glx drivers, now i changed to ati, and when i boot with ubuntu, the gdm will not start06:33
withayandai'm confused about fonts.  i need to install fonts that will display some east asian characters.  should i use ttf or xfonts?06:33
dabaRAJ--: google with the device model and brand and add ubuntu. I got http://home.arcor.de/wittawat/pixma/ubuntu-howto.html06:33
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dabaRjek: do you get an error?06:33
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ATAQbertugolu: sudo apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:34
jekdabaR: nope06:34
bertugolu.i did that06:34
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l0st1so I can't paste my error message here....it's only 2 lines long....:)06:34
dabaRbertugolu: did you install the drivers for ati?06:34
joeCoTbertugolu: it's trying to load the nvidia driver. Change the driver to vesa and start up06:34
ATAQbertugolu: what does it say?06:34
bertugoluand niot apt...dpkg06:34
dabaR!pastebin06:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:34
bertugolunoo i didnt do drivers for ati06:34
ianmacgregorUsing Evolution for the first time.. it's nice.06:34
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AJ--is there any driver for cannon pixma mp150 ???06:34
dabaR!ati06:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:34
macddefrysk, sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb06:34
macdworked.06:34
defryskcool06:34
ATAQbertugolu: what does it say?06:34
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maverick`-bertugolu, have you change the driveri n your xfce.conf?06:34
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jekdapaR: the ubuntu desktop flashes a couple times and boots me back to ubuntu login screen06:35
macdweather or not it works after I restart X ;)06:35
bertugolufailed to statd the xorg..06:35
defryskmacd, lol06:35
joeCoTbertugolu: what's the failure message?06:35
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leahciMicis it no screens found failed to load nvidia driver ?06:35
ATAQbertugolu: Is there an xorg generic driver? if so boot with that so you can fix the prob06:35
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ATAQbertugolu: for ati i mean06:36
dabaRAJ--: I posted a link for you, http://home.arcor.de/wittawat/pixma/ubuntu-howto.html06:36
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macdthe generic is 'vesa'06:36
bertugoluno i didnt edit xfce.conf...though i used sudo dpkg xserver xorg06:36
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treerootHello! I am am using Dapper on a Notebook with USB1.1. When I try attaching usb storage devices, ohci-hcd print the following message in /var/log/messages: "Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ." Can anyone help me with this?06:36
bertugoluemm i dont know06:36
BleSShow add a tool to menu? I just installing rapidsvn but it is not shown there06:36
ATAQbertugolu: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:36
AJ--dabar : tnx06:36
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ATAQbertugolu: and change the part that says "nvidia" to vesa06:36
ATAQbertugolu: then startx06:36
bertugoluahh.vesa?06:36
defryskuse nano -w for long lines safety06:36
bertugolui did ati06:37
ATAQbertugolu:  ya06:37
jekhm06:37
bertugoluso i need vesa?06:37
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macdpico!=nano -w06:37
anilomkarin my system i am having Windows XP and Ubuntu dual operating systems. When i am reinstalling Windows XP, Ubuntu OS is not loading. Pease help me...06:37
defryskvesa is the safe way always works06:37
ATAQbertugolu:  well get vesa first so you can get the ati drivers without hassle06:37
el-greccohola06:37
defryskany vid card has vesa06:37
joeCoTbertugolu: the open source ati driver doesn't work for really new cards. you need either vesa, or the binary ati fglrx driver06:37
bertugoluok06:37
el-greccoalguien que hable espaol06:37
macdanilomkar, yes because the windows bootloader overwrote grub.06:37
leahciMici've had this problem before REALLY hard to fix can't remember how... bertugolu try using the driver  'nv'06:37
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bertugolui have x1600 pro06:37
ianmacgregor!es el-grecco06:37
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ubotues: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (dapper), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB06:37
anilomkarmacd, then what to do??06:37
bertugoluno drivers for that?06:38
l0st1configure: error: Could not find terminal management library for readline06:38
l0st1(either ncurses, termcap or curses).06:38
ATAQis the fglrx driver already installed as default?06:38
macdanilomkar, boot with your ubuntu live CD and restore GRUB.06:38
defryskianmacgregor, lol06:38
bertugoludunno lol!06:38
defrysk!es06:38
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:38
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l0st1that's the error message...06:38
anilomkarmacd, i am sorry, i am new to linux how to restore the grub.06:38
macd!grub06:38
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:38
tonyyarusso!recover > anilomkar06:38
macdsee that second link?06:39
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macdrecovering grub after installing windows?06:39
bertugoluso i try to boot with vesa?06:39
l0st1are those libraries that I need to install?06:39
ATAQbertugolu:  there is but it would be handier to start the xserver and fix the prob using vesa rather than mess around in terminal06:39
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ianmacgregor!es > ianmacgregor06:39
anilomkarmacd, thank you...06:39
macdanilomkar, np np06:39
bertugolulisten i will try to boot...if i boot i will talk to you again and 10x mate06:39
ATAQbertugolu:  ya in vesa, do you no what to do06:39
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dabaRl0st1: you can try the libncurses-dev, or something like that.06:39
joeCoTbertugolu: no reason to reboot06:39
joeCoTbertugolu: just do startx06:40
ATAQbertugolu:  just reconfigure and restartx06:40
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RopeIm trying to install ubuntu-lite06:40
RopeAnd it says EE No devices detected06:40
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RopeNo secreens found... what could that be?06:40
dabaRl0st1: libncurses5 is the package.06:40
highvoltageRope: I think ubuntu-lite uses its own installer06:40
RopeYes.. but it wont start x06:40
highvoltageRope: imho, I would suggest you rather try Xubuntu if your computer can handle it06:40
el-grecco!es06:40
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:41
shuananyone know why when i try to install sun java 5 from add applications it says its not available in any software channel ?06:41
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Ropehighvoltage im afraid it cant =(06:41
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ATAQCan anyone please tell me a good network broswer, I use XFCE06:41
defryskshuan, sun-java5-bin06:41
l0st1now it says it can't find the "readline Library"06:41
shuandefrysk: yes06:42
macdATAQ sorry no help here I use nautilus/gnome06:42
highvoltageATAQ: you could try linneighbourhood06:42
Ropeso ??06:42
macdl0st1, install the libreadline package06:42
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sureshotwhay does dosbox not run when i click on it.. in gnome06:42
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ATAQhighvoltage: I'll check it out thanks m806:42
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RopeOk.. never mind06:43
RopeThanks06:43
l0st1it can't find the package06:43
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macdapt-cache search libreadline06:43
jorgpanyone know a decent gnome based cd label, cd case creator?06:43
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macdthen install the package it gives you.06:43
BleSShow add a tool to menu? I just installing rapidsvn but it is not shown there06:43
dabaRlibreadline506:43
dabaRjorgp: glabels06:44
AbortDhow do i access my running processes?06:44
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dabaRAbortD: ps aux will list them06:44
l0st1it says it's the newest package06:44
AbortDwth is ps aux?06:44
ReverseBladeAbortD, man ps06:44
l0st1**version06:44
dabaRBleSS: the gnome Applications menu? There is a menu editor in system tools06:44
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jorgpdabaR, thanks06:44
Gumby600mWhen sound is enabled in Firefox (i.e. /etc/firefox/firefoxrc has FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"), and a sound is played... my computer freezes.  Only way to get back to normal is to hard-reboot the machine.  Now it's starting to freeze while rhytmbox is playing.  What do I do to get soudn working?06:44
AbortDman ps?06:44
dabaRAbortD: it is a command for the terminal06:44
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AbortDno i want it with the gui06:44
macdGumby600m, stop using AOSS06:45
dabaRl0st1: libreadline5-dev, then06:45
ReverseBladeAbortD, go the console and write "man ps"06:45
macduse OSS instead06:45
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BleSSdabaR, Alacarte menu editor?06:45
AbortDi rather know the hotkey....06:45
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dabaRAbortD: System monitor?06:45
Yggdrasilcan somone tell me what this is ? yggdrasil@Whore1:~$ sudo reboot06:45
keithhhhanyone play mov files in ubuntu?06:45
Yggdrasilsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 18 12:45:13 200606:45
shuananyone know why when i try to install sun java 5 from add applications it says its not available in any software channel ?06:45
Gumby600mmacd: what are the other options?06:45
dabaRBleSS: yes06:45
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johsohiya guys.06:45
AbortDyes dabar06:45
dabaRYggdrasil: what is the time on your system? date06:45
macdOSS= open sound system  AOSS = also open sound system06:45
macdalsa*06:45
macdso just use OSS06:46
keithhhhdoes anyone watch mov files in ubuntu?06:46
progekI just installed a nice looking vista theme for Beryl but I would also like to change the gnome panels. Are there any themes to change the way the panels look?06:46
YggdrasilWed Oct 18 10:46:00 MDT 200606:46
defryskyes06:46
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ReverseBladekeitheis, .mov files or movie files ?06:46
johsoI want to reinstall Ubuntu, but my cd drive is broken. I don't have a floppy, and my bios doesn't support booting from a flash disk. what are my options? can grub boot from a flash disk, and if it can, how do I do it?06:46
defryskkeithhhh, sudo apt-get install vlc06:46
keithhhhReverseBlade: .mov06:46
dabaRAbortD: there is an app in the menu for that. System>admin>System Monitor06:46
variantYggdrasil: its called time drift.. you have set your clock which has put the time setting in the past. you will have to either wait till the old time passes again or set your clock more slowy with ntp06:46
keithhhhdefrysk: I tried in VLC but I cant hear anything06:46
defryskvlc plays anything06:47
AbortDim looking for the hotkey...06:47
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keithhhhdefrysk: ya vlc rocks06:47
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defryskkeithhhh, not sure about that bit06:47
variantjohso: take out the disk and install it from annother machine06:47
ReverseBladeAbortD, if you install automatix ,it provides you with the ctrl alt del option06:47
britthey how do i clear out if's cahce of whatever it stores06:47
Yggdrasilvariant i cant install ntp .. it tells me that same message06:47
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brittsometimes I cant connect to a wireless AP even after everything else is setup06:47
AbortDyou people make me want to kill my self06:47
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defryskkeithhhh, try another .mov and find out if its a nuked file06:47
variantYggdrasil: lol, unlucky. set your time to the time that it warns you about and then isntall ntp06:47
axis it okay to remove ubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal?06:47
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brittwont grab a IP from the DHCP server06:47
Yggdrasilvariant how do i set time ?06:47
variantAbortD: whats the problem?06:48
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axi want to get rid of vim in place of a locally compiled version06:48
AbortDplain and simple06:48
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Gumby600min /etc/firefox/firefoxrc, FIREFOX_DSP="oss"... now I have NO sound for my web browser....06:48
AbortDi want the hotkey for system monitor06:48
Alcides#spanish06:48
variantYggdrasil: use the date commmand or in system preferences which is probably a lot simpler06:48
johsovariant: It's a really bad idea, since it will install a lot of hardware that I will slow my system, but the real problem is that I have a laptop, thus I can't put the harddisk in another machine...06:48
macdax, then copy your binary to the the current vi binary06:48
ReverseBladeAbortD, install automatix , plain and simple :)06:48
AbortDits ctrl alt something06:48
bertugoluhey i am back06:48
AlcidesPara hablar en espaol06:48
Yggdrasilhah yea ok.. its a keyboardless.. monitorless box .. console only06:48
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dabaRax: is it OK...they are metapackages, so nothing should be broken afterwards. Just make sure they do not remove all their dependencies along with them.06:48
AbortDIT WAS INSTALLED WITH UBUNTU THE HOTKEY CAME ON THIS CRAP06:48
bertugoluabout the ati drivers stuff06:48
shuananyone know why when i try to install sun java 5 from add applications it says its not available in any software channel ?06:48
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ianmacgregorReverseBlade: Please do not recommend automatix.. it isn't supported configuration06:48
ReverseBladeianmacgregor, I disagree06:49
ReverseBladeianmacgregor, it works well06:49
ianmacgregorReverseBlade: Talk to the ops, then06:49
britt:agreed:06:49
variantjohso: you can do a network isntall from an existing installation or from annother system over ssh06:49
AlcidesAlguien habla espaol06:49
ReverseBladeianmacgregor, why ?06:49
bertugolucan someone tell me how can i install ati drivers06:49
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Yggdrasilvariant thanks...06:49
ATAQbertugolu:  hey you in?06:49
l0st1lol....ahh geez...now an error 'cannot find imlib2.....06:49
ATAQbertugolu:  hey you in?06:49
macdshuan, yes add the universe repo to your sources.list (covered on the forums)06:49
bertugoluyeah06:49
variantianmacgregor: he has been arguing about it all day06:49
bertugolui am with ubuntu...the hz is very bad06:49
variant!ati06:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:49
ianmacgregorvariant: Then someone needs to kick him06:49
ATAQbertugolu:  did vesa work ya06:49
variantbertugolu: see that?06:49
bertugoluvesa worked06:49
bertugoluXD06:49
Xacim looking for a howto for installing ist on a winxp laptop06:49
ReverseBladeianmacgregor, why ?06:50
ATAQbertugolu:  sudo apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:50
bertugolubut i need drivers bcos i cant stay like this06:50
dabaRAbortD: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4117406:50
ReverseBladeiamtheobject, why mentioning about automatix is a bad thing06:50
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davidhi06:50
ATAQbertugolu:  and you can reconfigure refresh rate while you get the proper drivers06:50
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Gumby600mmacd:  Firefox has no sound with "oss" instead of "aoss"... and I cant find anything like an "oss" package in synaptic.  What am I missing?06:50
dabaRl0st1: well, the dependencies have to be there in order to compile.06:50
johsovariant: could you be so kind and elaborate on that, or maybe point me to a guide?06:50
dabaRUse aptitude search then the lib that is missing, and install its -dev package, and then try again.06:51
macdGumby600m, goto system -> preferences -> sound06:51
macddo you see oss in the dropdown?06:51
ReverseBladeianmacgregor, , why mentioning about automatix is a bad thing06:51
dabaRl0st1: libimlib2-dev is the one you need now.06:51
macdunder the default sound card?06:51
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Gumby600mmacd: all I see is: "Intel 82801db-ich4"06:52
AbortDi use kde06:52
AbortDdabar06:52
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joeCoTXac: there aren't any how-tos for generl laptops. there are how-tos and reviews for specific one shttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam06:52
dabaR!automatix > ReverseBlade06:52
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macdGumby600m, then in that case check the box that has ESD at the top and tell firefox to use ESD06:52
ReverseBladeAbortD, what's your problem06:52
AbortDnothing06:52
AbortDim done06:52
ReverseBladedabaR, so ?06:52
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l0st1ah forgot the "lib" part....06:52
AbortDnext person that gives me a stupid answer im gonna go insane06:52
l0st1thx it's working now...06:53
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macdautomatix is like mixing and matching your repo lists, not the best idea in the world.06:53
dabaRl0st1: $2006:53
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l0st1do you take cheque?06:53
l0st1lol06:53
sureshotAbortD man if you are like me dont pack for a heavy trip because it is not a long one LOLOL just teasing06:53
ks1send in a zip file.06:53
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ReverseBlademacd, it works perfect06:53
macdonly if it says cheque not check on it cause they dont spell it as such here ;P06:53
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macdReverseBlade, if is was perfect then it would be in universe.06:54
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AbortD[12:53]  <kkathman> AbortD:   ctrl+esc06:54
AbortD[12:53]  <-- andre has left this server (Remote closed the connection).06:54
ks1macd: appear foreign one day06:54
Jhonny1009hello all. If I get kopete, can I run it in gnome?06:54
AbortD[12:53]  <AbortD> HOLY MOSES SOMEONE FINALLY GAVE ME A HUMAN RESPONSE06:54
AbortD[12:53]  <AbortD> kkathman: can i ask you a question06:54
ReverseBlademacd, the reason it is not in universe , because it uses non free software06:54
AbortD[12:53]  <kkathman> heh06:54
ks1Jhonny1009: yes06:54
AbortD[12:53]  <AbortD> ?06:54
variantjohso: sorry, i was looking for a list of install methods but cant find it06:54
AbortD[12:53]  <-- DeadSouL has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).06:54
ReverseBlademacd, and that's the only reason06:54
macdcontrib non-free06:54
AbortD[12:53]  <Jucato> ???06:54
Jhonny1009ks1 thanks06:54
macd.06:54
variantthere are about 20 different ways to do it06:54
AbortD[12:53]  <kkathman> well you can ask :)06:54
ks1Jhonny1009: you need some kde libs and such but it will work in gnome06:54
AbortD[12:53]  <-- whegge_ has left this server (Connection timed out).06:54
ianmacgregorAbortD: Please stop06:55
AbortD[12:53]  <AbortD> what is a hotkey?06:55
AbortD[12:53]  <kkathman> shortcut06:55
AbortD[12:53]  <AbortD> is it ps aux or is it ctrl esc?06:55
AbortD[12:53]  <hades> BonBonTheJon: i have problems with wifi on 2 computers as I told You before laptopm and a station one ...06:55
AbortD[12:54]  <Jucato> keyboard shortcut06:55
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Jhonny1009ks1, so I can mark it for instalation and it will work after?06:55
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johsovariant: couldn't find anything myself, but thanks for trying.06:55
ks1Jhonny1009: yes06:55
macdautomatix doesnt contain any non-free software it just installs it, thus its not a problem if they wanted it in there it would be in there.06:55
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Jhonny1009thx06:55
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Xac_how can i change the partition tabel without any loss of data06:55
joeCoTbbiab06:55
ReverseBlademacd, what ?06:55
macdwhat didnt you understand?06:56
dabaRXac_: don't mess with the partitions that have data on them06:56
variantXac_: carefully :)06:56
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ReverseBlademacd, you ask anyone even canonical people that the reason is it installs non free software06:56
variantXac_: parted06:56
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macdlegaly they can put it in there.06:56
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macdapt installs non free software too06:56
dabaRXac_: back up all data to another medium, and then return the data after changing the partition table06:56
ReverseBlademacd, legally they can't06:56
macdas does dpkg06:56
variantReverseBlade: ffs, will you PLEASE take your arguments else where, youare like a stuck record06:56
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macdbut you dont see anyone not including those.06:56
ianmacgregorCan we take the automatix talk to #automatix please? This is an Ubuntu support channel.06:57
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macdautomatix is a tool for isntalling non-free software is doesnt contain non-free software.06:57
don-oi swtiched apt/sources.list from dapper to edgy. apt-get update. apt-get dist-upgrade. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):06:57
ReverseBladevariant, yeah sorry about that06:57
macdbetter yet, I'll just stop talking about it ;)06:57
don-o trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man5/Xsession.5.gz', which is also in package xinit06:57
pawmanhi there06:57
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Xac_is there no free tool like partition magic06:57
don-ois there a workaround for this failed upgrade to edgy?06:57
macddon-o, heh I just had that problem06:57
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tonyyarussoXac_: gparted06:57
gnomefreakmacd: it does contain non-free software06:57
macduse dpkg -i --force-all06:57
AJ--i dont think partation magic will help06:57
waylandbillXac_, gparted live-cd06:57
don-omacd: ha. i tried removing the man page but it didnt help.06:58
don-omacd: cool i'll try that.06:58
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macdthen put the the package name after the force option.06:58
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ATAQbertugolu:  have you installed the nvidia driver?06:58
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Xac_the live cd doesn't boot with apic support :(06:58
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macdgnomefreak, automatix doesnt, it facilitates the isntall of non-free software.06:58
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robertwoesI am downloading the ubuntu disk, but azureus says that my ratio is bad and it is red.... is this going to affect the download?06:58
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variantrobertwoes: just upload as much as you download and your sorted06:59
gnomefreakmacd: it uses the PLF repo to install non-free apps like mp3 codecs06:59
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variantrobertwoes: it takes a while to get a good ratio but dont worry about it in the mean time06:59
macdso how exactly would automatix "contain" non-free06:59
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macdits a tool to facilitate installation of non-free software.07:00
gnomefreakand btw if your gonna suggest bad options like --fore make sure its the right one its --force-overwrite07:00
nbjaymehello people.  i have a problem regarding creation of pal-VCD  ... i have followed this guide http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD.  the CD will play on the VCD player but when i try on my computer totem says "There is no plugin to handle the location of this movie".  what does that mean?07:00
bertugoluhelo07:00
ATAQbertugolu:  hey, you getting there?07:00
dmglouiscan someone help me? my comp doesn't connect to the internet07:00
robertwoeswill it automatically upload or do i need to tell it to?07:00
macdgnomefreak, I had the same issue this morning and the fix suggested works fine.07:00
bertugoluemm i didnt install nvidia drivers, bcos i have ait07:00
bertugolui am using the ubuntu webite07:00
ReverseBladedmglouis, automatix07:00
bertugoluhope it works07:00
pawmanDoes anyone know a good program to run over a LAN to chat and use whiteboard that does not go over the internet or though this could be an external option07:00
ReverseBladedmglouis, just kidding:) can you ping your router ?07:00
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dmglouisreverseblade:whats automatix07:00
ATAQbertugolu:  I dont know the ati well. give me a link to the site you on and I see ca i help ya07:00
dmglouisreverseblade: no07:01
roshan_sdon-o: Please file a bug against the xorg package containing the error message.07:01
ReverseBladedmglouis, never mind on that. do you have a router in deed ?07:01
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bertugoluno no i am going fine now07:01
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dmglouisreverseblade: yea its connected via ehternet to router07:01
bertugolulets hope it work, 100000x very much07:01
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don-oroshan_s: oh man, make macd do it! kidding. i'll file the bug as soon as i find the url for bug filing.07:01
ATAQbertugolu:  are you running the fglrx or vesa07:01
ATAQ?07:01
ReverseBladedmglouis, type sudo ifconfig and see your ip if you get it07:01
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gnomefreak1st --forece-anything should not be used nor should not be suggested for people to use. --force-all can force something else that fifnt error yet and cause major breakage, --force-overwrite only overwrites the one .deb that you tell it to.07:01
macdI already filed the bug.07:02
roshan_sdon-o: I'm checking if a duplicate bug has already been filed.07:02
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macdgnomefreak, I didnt know that, kthx for clarification07:02
variantgnomefreak: it does not use --force07:02
dmglouisreverseblade: yea theres an inet address07:02
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ReverseBladedmglouis, and what is it ?07:02
gnomefreakvariant: what doesnt use force?07:02
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variantgnomefreak: automatix07:02
dmglouisreverseblade: its 192.168.2.13207:02
gnomefreakvariant: we are talking about the --force-all command07:02
variantgnomefreak: ok07:02
gnomefreakvariant: not automatix07:02
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variantgnomefreak: i see :), forgive me :)07:03
macdone would assume when you specify a deb then --force-all switch would just use all the force options to install that package07:03
ReverseBladedmglouis, did you set yourself or automatic ?07:03
gnomefreakmacd: yes07:03
macdthen how was what I told him wrong?07:03
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dmglouisreverseblade: myself, i put in the dns nameservers07:03
macdI said --force-all packagenamehere07:03
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dmglouisreverseblade: buts its dchp07:03
dabaRmacd: not wrong, just unsafe.07:03
gnomefreak/var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb  << example07:03
macdyeah well running linux isnt safe ;)07:03
ReverseBladedmglouis, did you set the 192. ip manually ?07:03
dmglouisreverseblade: nope07:04
macdespecialy if your trying to upgrade to a beta release07:04
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dabaRmacd: if you use the --force-overwrite only that package gets forced. otherwise you could force otehr changes.07:04
ATAQhey linneighborhood dont really wotk, If samba is easier than NFS,  what samba client should I use, I am on XFCE07:04
ReverseBladedmglouis, what is your routers ip  ?07:04
dmglouisreverseblade: each time i restart the computer it gets assigned that IP07:04
dmglouisreverseblade: routers is 192.168.2.107:04
macddabaR, thanks for the 2nd clarification ;)07:04
don-oim getting a lot of "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:" warnings during the dist-upgrade07:04
ReverseBladedmglouis, and you ping it what you get ?07:04
macddon-o that happens.07:04
dmglouisreverseblade: however, if i restart networking, i lose the IP07:04
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ReverseBladedmglouis, its okay07:05
designdreami feel that i broke things by sudo passwd07:05
macddabaR, me too, ever since I threw qwerty out07:05
Jhonny1009I downloaded the xgl package via synaptic, how do I start it?07:05
don-odabaR: if you like typing, you'll like typing on a dvorak keyboard even more!07:05
dmglouisreverseblade: i get destination host unreachable07:05
ATAQtype xgl! lol07:05
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macdohh snap don-o use dvorak too ?07:05
variantdesigndream: yeah, there should be no need to set a root password07:05
designdreamis there a way to remove my root password? certain System menus in gnome are failing.. i also dont have sound07:05
ReverseBladedmglouis, is there any other machine in your network that you can ping ?07:05
don-omacd: dvorak is the r0x0rz.07:05
designdreamvariant: well how do i undo07:05
dmglouisreverseblade: yea, 2 others07:05
designdreamvariant: i was not aware of sudo -i07:05
macddesigndream, root password and those issues have nothing in common07:05
dmglouisreverseblade: i mean no07:05
dabaR!root07:05
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:05
Jhonny1009ATAQ type xgl where?07:05
variantdesigndream: dunno, there is a command to undo it but i dont recall exactly what it is07:05
dmglouisreverseblade: the 2 others can ping the router07:06
ReverseBladedmglouis, but you can't ping them  right ?07:06
dmglouisreverseblade: no07:06
ReverseBladedmglouis, strange07:06
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dmglouisreverseblade: well the 2 others are windows07:06
ReverseBladedmglouis, shouldn't matter07:06
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designdreammacd: alright... i assumed it did because i now have a password prompted upon sudo'n any command07:06
nbjaymewould there be a problem for linux on pal-vcd format?  what's a good burning option to make it play under linux and the VCD player?07:06
ReverseBladedmglouis, if your computer gets and ip from the router than there should be no problem07:06
dabaRdmglouis: compile all your info into 1-3 sentences, so that when someone new tries to help you they do not have to ask all the questions you already know the answers to.07:06
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ReverseBladedmglouis, note that windows default blocks ping request07:07
macddesigndream, again you didnt break anything, the problems your experiencing have nothing todo with the root password.07:07
gnomefreakvariant: designdream check !sudo there is a section on changing su back to sudo07:07
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Jhonny1009please, how do I start xgl on ubuntu?07:07
dmglouisreverseblade: it only gets the IP after restart, if i try changing anything and then restarting it loses the IP and doesnt get one07:07
macdif you set your root password and want to be root type "su"07:07
cbx33Jhonny1009, are you on edgy or dapper?07:07
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macddmglouis, does ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 help?07:07
gnomefreakdesigndream: are they the ones that need "root"07:07
don-oNOPASSWD: is my favorite part of sudo07:07
dmglouisreverseblade: i mean restarting the comp works, restarting the netwrok doesn't07:07
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dmglouisreverseblade: let me try07:08
Jhonny1009cbx33, I don't know07:08
stephanshow do you delete lots of files??????????07:08
designdreammacd: 'system' 'time and date' tells me 'you are not allowed to access the system configuration'07:08
crimsunJhonny1009: lsb_release -r07:08
gnomefreakstephans: one at a time carefully07:08
dabaRstephans: that depends on which files you want to delete07:08
variantdesigndream: use suod07:08
ReverseBladedmglouis, that's normal behaviour07:08
brutopiastephans: install windows07:08
deadkennyHi, anyone know how to set quotas on virtual users in VSFTPD?07:08
macddesigndream, a window prompting you for sudo does not pop up?07:08
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ReverseBladedmglouis, how many interfaces do you have ?07:08
gnomefreakdesigndream: yes that would be because of enabling su07:08
stephansi get bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long07:08
designdreammacd: no07:08
macdthen you need to revert back to sudo.07:08
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dmglouisreverseblade: just this eth007:08
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Jhonny1009crimsun, I have 6.0607:09
gnomefreakdesigndream: read teh link ubotu gave you above for !root it tells you how to set it back07:09
designdreamgnomefreak: thanks...07:09
stephansthere are over 10 000 files in a folder... i need to delete most of them07:09
crimsunJhonny1009: so, dapper.07:09
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dmglouisreverseblade: and the networks uneachable if i try pinging now07:09
dmglouisreverseblade: *unreachable07:09
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don-ostephans: how are you specifying which to delete?07:09
designdream!sudo07:09
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:09
ReverseBladewindows blocks the ping07:09
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stephansI would have thought that the cli would be the easises...07:09
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Jhonny1009how do I run xgl?07:09
dmglouisreverseblade: how do i let in the ping then?07:10
gnomefreakmacd: i dont know what makes the difference but some people have issues running anything that normally needs sudo when they enable root (some people not all)07:10
stephansrm rec*07:10
ReverseBladedmglouis, but if windows could ping the router ,  your *nix machine should do as well07:10
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stephansdon-o: rm rec*07:10
don-ostephans: find . -name rec\* -exec rm {} \;07:10
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don-ostephans: thats one way to do it. note it will search into subdirectories.07:10
Jhonny1009another question: how can I set the resolution of the login screen?07:10
stephansdon-o: could you pls explain what that means???07:10
ReverseBladedmglouis, there is a setting in the control panel of windows , something like a firewall,  you can adjust it or turn the firewall temporarily07:10
nbjaymeis there a way to have a  vcd in ogg format?07:10
ianmacgregorgnomefreak: It's best, then, to just not enable root. I have been on Ubuntu since Hoary and have never needed to enable the root account :)07:10
don-ostephans: man find will explain it.07:11
dmglouisreverseblade: okay let me try07:11
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gnomefreakianmacgregor: correct07:11
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ReverseBladedmglouis, what do you get when route -e -n ?07:12
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dadofelipe: get out07:12
stephansdon-o: could you do it with a for loop?07:12
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felipeI saw it first!07:12
dadodid not07:13
don-ostephans: for filename in *; do echo $filename; done07:13
don-ostephans: replace * with rec* and echo with rm07:13
dadofelipe is touching me07:13
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leahciMicomg omg i just shat my pants ... afk07:13
dmglouislol07:13
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don-owilliam SHATner07:14
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stephansdon-o: ok that is the equivalent of 'for /f %i in ('dir /b rec*.*') do del %i'07:14
stephansin windows?07:14
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raintheoryhello all07:14
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don-ostephans: good god i dont know! DOS batch files?! :)07:15
dmglouiswhenever I restart networking, i get a message saying No DHCPOFFERS received, whats the problem?07:15
MarcNdmglouis: no dhcp server answered your request07:15
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don-ostephans: i didnt even know DOS was capable of such a construct.07:15
Jhonny1009can anyone tell me how I can change the resolution of the login screen?07:15
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stephansdon-o: NT shell scripting... lots of similarities...07:15
leahciMicexcept nt shell scripting sucks...07:16
don-ostephans: i see.07:16
dmglouisMarcN: but my router works, thats how im connected on this computer07:16
MarcNstephans: maybe something like       find . -iname 'rec*' -printf "rm %p\n"  then pipe to   sh    (don't just cut-n-paste it)07:16
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stephansMarcN: that look bizarre...07:17
ReverseBladedmglouis, route -e -n07:17
MarcNdmglouis: run out of dhcp addresses?07:17
ReverseBladedmglouis, netstat -r07:17
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raintheorysheesh07:17
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dmglouismarcn: prolly not only 3 comps07:17
zaidahholllllaaaaaaaaaaa07:17
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don-owell its been a hoot. thanks all ubuntuians!07:18
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dmglouisthey both come up blank07:18
ReverseBladedmglouis, blank ?07:18
dabaRnew windows scripting languagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell07:18
jekis there log file somewhere on ubuntu about the bootup if there is any problem?07:18
stephansleachiMic: that sucky scripting saved my ass lots of times...07:18
dmglouisonly the headings come07:18
ReverseBladedmglouis, and you have an IP now ?07:18
raintheorystill having RDP/VNC issues...     I can connect to our G5 running OSX Tiger, but I can't connect to my Dapper laptop downstairs...07:18
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dmglouisreverseblade: no IP07:18
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ReverseBladedmglouis, you told me you got an IP ?07:19
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dmglouisreverseblade: i did get one, but after I did ifdown eth0... i lost it07:19
raintheoryi get "connection refused"   ....    any ideas what I should check on the Dapper install I'm trying to connect to?07:19
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zyvolutionHello07:20
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dmglouisreverseblade: only way to get an IP now is to restart the whole comp07:20
rambo3did ip start with 17X. ?07:20
dmglouisIP started with 192.07:20
ReverseBladedmglouis, what's in your /etc/network/interfaces file ?07:20
zyvolutionI am downloading the iso of ubuntu right now but do i have to burn it? or can i run it from windows xp?07:20
ReverseBladedmglouis, what happens now if you "sudo ifup eth0"07:20
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waylandbillzyvolution, you need to burn it and then boot from it07:21
zyvolutionk07:21
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ReverseBladezyvolution, you have to burn it07:21
raintheoryzyvolution: burn it and boot with it...   is it the livecd?07:21
zyvolutionthx07:21
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ReverseBladelol07:21
zyvolutioni just downloaded the netherlands iso thingie07:21
rambo3dmglouis, i'dd rather use  sudo dhclient eth007:21
dmglouisreverseblade: the interfaces file has auto lo and auto eth0 and eth0 is shcp07:21
zyvolutionBut does runescape run under linux? :P07:21
dmglouisreverseblade: *dhcp07:21
ReverseBladedmglouis, do as rambo3 said07:21
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waylandbillzyvolution, if you install java it does.07:22
zyvolutionk07:22
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zyvolutioni am going to like linux way more than that crappy winxp07:22
MarcNzyvolution: my kids play runescape.com with a linux desktop.  Now they want SecondLife, but have problems with unreadable fonts07:22
dmglouisreverseblade: what did rambo say?07:22
zyvolutionstrange07:22
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dmglouisoh ok n/m07:22
ReverseBladedmglouis, sudo dhclient eht007:23
sureshotzyvolution i do as well and just remember when you run linux your information stay your own LOLOL07:23
ReverseBladedmglouis, eth007:23
zyvolution5 hours ago i downloaded the winxp updates then my pc crashed :(07:23
kmaynardMarcN, winde or cedega?07:23
kmaynardwine07:23
MarcNkmaynard: native linux port07:23
kmaynardo rly?07:23
kmaynardnice07:23
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dmglouisreverseblade: yup same message, no DHCPOFFERS07:23
kmaynardi dont game, so.... :)07:23
sureshotzyvolution do you have a registered copy of all ms stuff on your system07:23
zyvolutionyes07:24
ReverseBladedmglouis, what does it say exactly ?07:24
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zyvolutioni have all original xp software07:24
administrator__i am unable to mount an NFS share even locallly -- followed the NFSHowto to no avail07:24
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dmglouisreverseblade: No DHCPOFFERS received07:24
dmglouisreverseblade: No working leases in persisten database - sleeping07:24
sureshotzyvolution if not ms will do somthing to shut down your computer or disable windows ... google this topic and see for your self07:24
ReverseBladeReverseBlade, alright but when you reboot you get an IP ?07:25
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rambo3dmglouis, whats your gw ?07:25
dmglouisreverseblade: yup07:25
dmglouisrambo3: gw?07:25
rambo3192,168.X,007:25
ReverseBladedmglouis, router07:25
ReverseBladeX = 207:25
dmglouisreverseblade: 192.168.2.107:25
darenI am trying to compile a package that requires mono.  I installed mono and gtk-sharp2 with synaptic, but then when I to a "./configure" I get the error "No package 'mono' found".  What am I missing?07:25
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rambo3ip of router in local network07:25
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waylandbillsureshot, WGA ... good reason to give ms the boot. :-D07:25
zyvolutionms is not that bad :D because i am a xbox360 user to07:25
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rambo3dmglouis did you do this ,  : sudo route add default gw  192.168.2.107:26
waylandbillisn't the xbox farmed out and just sold under the ms name?07:26
ReverseBladedaren, type mono in console07:26
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sureshotzyvolution i use windows only for games and i am trying to get that taked care of LOLOLOL07:26
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bogohi07:26
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J_Phi all07:26
zyvolutionyeah07:26
zyvolutioni used windows for gaming to07:26
zyvolutionbut my favo game is for linux to : doom307:26
dmglouisreverseblade: network is unreachable07:26
darenReverseBlade, it works, I get the help output07:27
ReverseBladerambo3, he can't even ping it07:27
bogoany one here who could help me out with nvidia geforce 7900gt 2 crt monitorz output?07:27
dmglouisreverseblade: let me restart07:27
zyvolutionwhats the problem?07:27
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zyvolutioni have a nvidia geforce to07:27
raintheoryany suggestions on this VNC situation?   I get "vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection Refused Unable to connect to VNC Server"07:27
administrator__anyone help with NFS mounting?07:27
sureshotReverseBlade not been watching but it sounds like his card is not set up correctly07:27
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bogomy problem?07:27
administrator__i think my NFS config is messed up07:27
darenmono --version: Mono JIT compiler version 1.1.13.6, (C) 2002-2005 Novell, Inc and Contributors.07:27
MarcNraintheory: vncserver not running?07:27
ReverseBladesureshot, I thought the same, but he claims, he receives an IP after rebooting07:27
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raintheorynah its running, i just set it up and double-checked it07:28
administrator__i followed this => https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#head-fc5f56ca8b26ee3d8b0e11291f6fe9df8b59a84d07:28
rambo3dmglouis, what does : dmesg |grep eth0 say07:28
ReverseBladedaren, what application is this ?07:28
dmglouisrambo3: let me check after restart07:28
darenit's a plugin for Banshee07:28
dmglouisrambo3: another 30 secs or so07:28
darenbanshee-showtrackonchange07:28
ReverseBladeadministrator_, I have read and write to my windows partition07:28
raintheorycould iptables be blocking it somehow?07:28
dmglouisrambo3: what can I say, really old dell :)07:28
bmud_Greetings, all.07:28
sureshotReverseBlade i have see things like this happen what is the sub net mask of what he gets is it 255.255.0.0 if so it is not set up correctly or the routor is not as well07:28
dmglouisi should check the subnet?07:29
rambo3np, i have intels ethernet card  that linux kernel people wont let work , in windows it works even if it  somewhat bad eeprom07:29
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darenReverseBlade: http://den-4.com/node/1307:29
ReverseBladesureshot, I think there's a conflict in his story that he is not even aware of07:29
Hybrid-LordHey everyone07:29
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Hybrid-LordNew Ubuntu user here..07:30
dmglouisrambo3: i did the grep thing and eth0 is Davicom something07:30
bmud_Coudl someone help me with XviD?07:30
sureshotReverseBlade that may be so take him back to the beginning have him hard reset his router and then reconfigure it then see what happens07:30
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rambo3dmglouis, just check for errors07:30
raintheoryHybrid-Lord: Hello07:30
tonyyarussoWelcome Hybrid-Lord07:30
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Hybrid-LordHey hey!07:30
dmglouisrambo3: theres no ipv6 routers07:30
designdreamthanks so much guys! i now have sound07:30
dmglouisrambo3: present07:30
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rambo3thats not an error , so its working07:31
sureshotReverseBlade sureshot is just tring to helpe dont mean to over step your abilities ok07:31
ReverseBladesureshot, you follow it. I am not that skillful in this network stuff07:31
bogoany one here who could help me out with nvidia geforce 7900gt 2 crt monitorz output?07:31
sureshotReverseBlade i will read as it goes ok07:31
raintheorybrb07:31
dmglouisshould i reset router or something07:31
sureshotReverseBlade i dont have the ubuntu knowlege07:31
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dmglouisbut if i do i'll disconnect here :)07:32
bertugoluhey everyone, my screen refresh rate is 60 hz, but i want it more...in screen reslolution, it wont allow me, how can i do it/07:32
bertugolu?07:32
ReverseBladedaren, I think the software itself is buggy07:32
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Hybrid-LordWell, I must say i find Ubuntu quite refreshing. I've tried Debian and Redhat, aswell as 3 days of compiling Gentoo. wha.07:32
eetfunkhow do i ssh into a different port?  I tried ssh -d 1234 hostname but it doesnt work...07:32
sureshotdmglouis read up on your router there is a little button you push with a paper clip reset it via instructions then reconfigure your router for your network ok07:32
ReverseBladesureshot, he doesn't need it. since everything is in console this is not distro-specific07:32
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rambo3dmglouis, try that07:33
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dmglouisalright it'll take a while07:33
dmglouisi'll be back in bout 5 mins i guess07:33
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darenReverseBlade, it says I can manually add MONO_CFLAGS and MONO_LIBS, where would I look for these?07:33
sureshotok dmglouis i figured as much07:33
ReverseBladedaren, to your .bashrc file07:33
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bmud_bertugolu, refresh rate is in the resolution panel for me.07:34
sureshotReverseBlade i was a network eng in ms and novell for about 20 years or more LOL linux is new to me07:34
darenno, I mean what path is MONO_CFLAGS in ubuntu?07:34
ReverseBladedaren, then reopen the terminal07:34
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darenI suppose MONO_LIBS = /usr/lib/mono07:34
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michoelcHi all. I wanted to know if there is a way to make my ubuntu partition smaller, so I can make another partition as well? TIA.07:34
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ReverseBladesureshot, wow, linux is 15 years old in deed07:35
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dabaRmichoelc: do you use gnome?07:35
wolfbane_691hey does any 1 know if automatix is any good or not07:35
ReverseBladesureshot, but if you consider the *nix background it is prolly older than you :)07:35
dabaR!automatix07:35
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.07:35
dmglouis_alright im back07:35
dmglouis_the ubuntu pc still has IP07:35
wolfbane_691is it bad07:35
ReverseBladedmglouis, now , route -r07:36
dabaRwolfbane_691: some say so.07:36
michoelcdabaR: I have gnome, but I usually don't use it 'cus it's a very old computer with no RAM.. but I do have it..07:36
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sureshotReverseBlade well when your money is in somthing you dont pay attention to anything else i always thought linux is just something that was run for thing that for just for one application and such07:36
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rambo3dmglouis:sudo route add default netmask 255.255.255.0 &&  sudo route add default gw  192.168.2.1 && sudo dhclient eth007:36
wolfbane_691can it mess ur linux box up07:36
nenitaola07:36
dabaRmichoelc: there are parted gparted and qtparted, look into those on google07:36
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ReverseBladesureshot, may be. I have no experience on this07:37
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michoelcdabaR: Okay.. I will, thanks.. do I have to defragmentise first or something?07:37
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nenitagirllokita@hotmail.com07:37
nenitaagregadme07:37
dabaRmichoelc: no07:37
dmglouis_rambo3: i have an error for the first part07:37
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sureshotReverseBlade well i will get back on topic thanks for chatting07:37
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dabaRwolfbane_691: try http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/07:37
michoelcdabaR: Okay.. so thanks for the help.07:37
dmglouis_rambo3: SIOCCADDRT: no such device07:37
ReverseBladesureshot, my pleasure07:37
janbananHow do I change the order in GRUB? I wan't windows at the top of the list07:37
wolfbane_691i have a program called ararok and im haveing a little trouble it wont play my mp3`s07:38
ReverseBladejanbanan, #grub07:38
bruenigjanbanan, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list, copy and paste the windows entry above the other entries07:38
janbananbruenig, thanks07:38
ReverseBladewindows ubber alles07:38
ReverseBladelol07:38
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ReverseBladeuber07:38
bruenigjanbanan, my fault, it is sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst07:38
dabaRwolfbane_691: install libxine-extracodecs07:38
mcquaidhello, i'm putting together a system from some spare parts. it has onboard video via/s3g unichrome pro07:39
wolfbane_691ok07:39
dmglouis_alright ppl thanks for help but I've gtg now07:39
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mcquaidanyone know what the opengl performance is like?  could this run a game like enemy territory?07:39
dmglouis_thanks rambo and reverseblade:07:39
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jason^is there a way to maintain iptables rules over reboots?07:39
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Hybrid-LordSo, just out of curiosity, If I have flash player 7.0 and the update says It's up-to-date, yet i need 8.0, how would I go about getting it?07:40
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ReverseBladejason^, worst case , save them into a file, and add them with a script after reboot07:40
jason^ReverseBlade: that's what i'm doing now07:40
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bruenigHybrid-Lord, flash 8 doesn't exist for linux, they are supposed to be making flash 9 soon07:40
ianmacgregorHybrid-Lord: I don't think flash 8 is available for Linux yet07:40
Hybrid-LordAha, that would explain alot.07:40
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bruenigflash 8 won't ever be available for linux as they chose not to port that07:40
ReverseBladeHybrid-Lord, flash 8 will not be released for linux07:40
fnfHybrid-Lord: Abode has implicitly stopped supporting for Flash for Linux, 7.0 is the newest version.07:41
wolfbane_691how do i install libxine-extracodecs07:41
ReverseBladeflash 9 will be available on early 200707:41
ianmacgregorbruenig: :(07:41
TheGateKeeperHybrid-Lord: linux doesn't have 8 but I do have a frig which sometimes works if you want it07:41
Hybrid-LordSure gatekeeper, I'd love to give it a try.07:41
bruenigianmacgregor, they are going to jump straight to 9 though and the beta should be out reasonably soon07:41
ianmacgregorThat's good to hear07:41
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ReverseBladeHybrid-Lord, you can always run like, installing firefox for windows over wine07:41
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fnfReverseBlade, that's good, but where did you get that info from ?07:42
Hybrid-LordAlthough, I have to warn ya TheGateKeeper, I'm quite new to Linux.07:42
ReverseBladefnf, I've read it from ubuntu forums, there is a howto on that07:42
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Hybrid-LordReverseBlade: I saw that a few times while googling it. Although i have no idea how to do that heh07:42
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TheGateKeeper!libxine-extracodecs > wolfbane_69107:42
ReverseBladefnf, which one ? wine thing or flash 9 thing ?07:42
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ReverseBladeHybrid-Lord, just search the forums07:43
Hybrid-LordBeing able to wine flash 8.5...07:43
bruenigI use ie6 with flash 8 for my flash 8 stuff07:43
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wolfbane_691says command not found07:43
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bruenigthrough wine of course07:43
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Hybrid-LordHmmmm07:44
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payaHi all I'm having a problem after installing an i686 kernel on a fresh install07:44
ReverseBladeif IE runs on linux then every software runs theoretically on linux07:44
Hybrid-Lord*nods*07:44
payaafter installing i686 kernel system won't shutdown properly I have to turn off manually07:44
fnfReverseBlade, I meant Flash 9, I remembered not so long ago there was a post on Slashdot talking about Flash support for Linux, the only way to contact the (only) developer is through his blog.07:44
xamoxwhat mail server does everyone recommend for a web server that (runs apache w/ a CMS) and all I want to be able to have it do is just send e-mails from the website.07:44
payapressing the case power button turns the pc off instead of ivoking shutdown07:44
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bruenigReverseBlade, hmmm, it works in a compatibility layer, theoretically anything runs on anything so long as it has some sort of compatibility depedencies and such met07:45
TheGateKeeperHybrid-Lord: well you could try this --> kate ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat then change Shockwave Flash 7.0 r68:$ to Shockwave Flash 9.0 r68:$07:45
mrmknetCan someone guide me thru intalling nvidia driver?07:45
wolfbane_691how do i get libxine-extracodecs to install07:45
bruenigwolfbane_691, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:46
wolfbane_691ah ok07:46
TheGateKeeperwolfbane_691: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:46
payaAnyone know if you're supposed to do anything extra after installing a new kernel and booting into it?07:46
ianmacgregorWhy do people use wine? Aren't they worried about it running Windows exploits? http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=14607:46
bruenigwolfbane_691, make sure you have enabled the multiverse repositories07:46
TheGateKeeperwolfbane_691: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs  ooops07:46
bruenigianmacgregor, if it gets exploited and all virused up, you just delete the .wine directory and its gone, all the viruses are going to be localized to that directory07:47
ianmacgregorbruenig: Ahh, ok. But, still able to pass on viruses/trojans to other computers?07:47
jokoonIs amd athlon 2200+ called 386 ?07:47
wolfbane_691im trying to get amarok to work and it wont play my mp3`s07:47
wolfbane_691it says it can not load07:48
bruenigianmacgregor, perhaps, I am not sure there07:48
wolfbane_691mp307:48
Hybrid-Lordwolfbane_691: I'm using XMMS, works fine.07:48
wolfbane_691is it pretty?07:48
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Hybrid-LordEh....07:48
Hybrid-LordBasic winamp type theme.07:48
bruenigwolfbane_691, you don't have the proper codecs07:48
payajokoon> No it's atleast 68607:48
Hybrid-Lordold school winamp..07:48
bruenig!mp307:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:48
wolfbane_691im going for eye candy07:48
Hybrid-Lordheh07:48
{_-IcE-_}can someone tell me how to start 2 processes at boot? dont have them in /etc/init.d07:48
whysowhy do my torrents go retardedly fast in ubuntu?07:48
wolfbane_691how do i get the codecs07:49
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bruenigwhyso, lots of seeds?07:49
fnf{_-IcE-_}, you may put the global commands in /etc/rc.local or local commands in your bash.rc files.07:49
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whyso? ammount of seeds same with any os right07:49
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bruenigwhyso, yeah but maybe you jumped on a different torrent when you were using ubuntu or whatnot07:50
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bruenigwolfbane_691, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats07:50
whysonope same torrent (started it over cauese of reinstall)07:50
{_-IcE-_}fnf: will that load them at bootup with proftpd and other services? (before gui)07:50
payawhyso> maybe your other os is clogged up with spyware, viruses etc07:50
wolfbane_691k thanx07:50
whysoand its 15x faster07:50
whysothas possible :)07:50
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mcquaiddoes anyone use onboard unichrome pro (s3g)? I'm wondering what the opengl performance is like07:51
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A_Squarehello all07:51
fnf{_-IcE-_}, sure, if you put them in rc.local, commands in bash.rc will otherwise be executed after you login.07:51
highvoltagehello07:51
jokoonOn https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia , I don't understand the "6. Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8." How can I know about my kernel ? What package should I check knowing there already are 4 with a green icon ?07:51
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{_-IcE-_}fnf: tnx, lemme give it a try :)07:51
ks1jokoon: uname -a07:51
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payaSo nobody has any answer for my kernel question?07:52
ZiRowhich folder contains the "home" template for all new users created?07:52
der0bziro: /etc/skel07:52
ATAQfrom the command line how do I mount a network server07:52
TubaSoldierQuestion: I just recently installed mepis on my laptop. So far so good. the only issue i have is that the arts sound server seems to be broken. has anyone else had this issue?07:52
ZiRoder0b: thank you so much07:53
{_-IcE-_}fnf: can i run a process not as root from there also?07:53
der0bnp :)07:53
fnf{_-IcE-_}, btw, make sure rc.local is executed at boot time (by default it is, unless you messed with the init.d/ dir)07:53
{_-IcE-_}su user before?07:53
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A_SquareI have been trying to set up apapche virtual hosting on dapper.  I have no a strange instance... my alias brings up my router login page!  I am dumbfounded nad google hasnt been too helpful... anyone have experience woth this?  I am pretty experienced linux user and have never seen this07:53
raintheoryjokoon:   in a terminal type uname -r07:53
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fnf{_-IcE-_}, Yup, rc.local can run any commands.07:53
raintheoryfor your kernel version07:53
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der0bjokoon: you could install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)07:54
ZiRohow can i defaultly set the default folder permissions of new users' home directorys so that they are inaccessable by anyone but the owner?07:54
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ZiRo(and anyone with higher access privilages)07:54
payaSystem shuts down all the way to halting system then it just stands there on 686 kernel but no problem on 386 kernel07:54
boinkZiRo: chmod 664 blah07:55
payaIt can't turn off the computer07:55
boinkor even stricter, if you need that07:55
boinkman chmod07:55
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ZiRoboink: yes, but how do i set that as the default for all newly created users?07:55
A[D] minSi created file @ /var/www07:55
fnfZiro: try setting umask value.07:55
A[D] minSfile.php07:55
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boinkthat's set somewhere in profiles or something like that07:55
A[D] minSand now i can't write any files or in files which in /var/www07:56
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A[D] minSPermission denied07:56
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A[D] minSso how i can give Permission to normal user to write ?07:56
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{_-IcE-_}fnf: tnx dude... seems to have worked well tho 1 failed... i think i know why, were can i check the logs to make sure?07:56
jokoonIs it normal that I have 2.6.15-27-386, a 386 kernel, knowing I have an Athlon 2200+ beeing a 686 ?07:56
aoupiZiRo: I don't know if it'll work but try changing the permisions of the skel dir (/etc/skel)07:56
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boinkI think it's there07:57
fnf{_-IcE-_}, what is the failed command ?07:57
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{_-IcE-_}tried to start an eggdrop...07:57
{_-IcE-_}su username07:57
boinkhe07:57
fnf{_-IcE-_}, all the system log files are saved under /var/log/07:57
{_-IcE-_}than usual07:57
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raintheoryjokoon: you could always install the 686 and see if you get a performance increase07:58
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ZiRoaoupi, i was thinking about that, but i was weary i'll try though07:58
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jokoonraintheory : That does not speak a lot for me ;-(07:59
A[D] minS!chmod07:59
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux07:59
fnf{_-IcE-_}, I presume 'su username' is for changing the current user ?, what's for ?.07:59
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LimonJalisciensei was working with a samba network but now i would like to make a non-windows network how can i do that07:59
_martin_How do I get openoffice to print to the kdeprinter?07:59
sureshotjokoon i got quite a difference with the 686 kernel ... beryl ran much quicker and such it seems to work well07:59
{_-IcE-_}fnf: yep, coz it wont start if ur root07:59
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{_-IcE-_}cant find anything in the logs as yet08:00
A_Squareanyone working with virtual hosting on dapper server?08:00
jokoonsureshot : And how can I install this kernel ?08:00
fjleonmatu xx pichurrin08:00
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redkrieg_I'm getting vnc authentication failed when I try to VNC in to my home machine.  I've tried running vncpasswd using the currently logged in user account to change the password, but no go.  Any ideas?08:00
sureshotjokoon i dont know the app-get command but it is in the repos if you search on it08:00
sureshotjokoon using synaptic08:00
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raintheoryjokoon: 386 is fine, it will work, but you can always install the 686 version and see if it works better.  It's not too hard to do, and it will give you both kernels in the grub menu so you can always switch back08:01
fnf{_-IcE-_}, that's not really a failure but a feature IMO, can't you just log in as that user ?.08:01
sureshotcan someone give jokoon the apt-get command to install the 686 kernal08:01
{_-IcE-_}fnf: but i want its process to start at bootup08:01
A[D] minS<A[D] minS> how i can access /var/www as normal user ?08:01
A[D] minS<A[D] minS> want to set Permissions for normal user08:01
fnf{_-IcE-_}, btw, rc.local is executed before any user is logged in, so 'su' wouldn't actually work.08:01
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ZiRoaltering the user permissions of the skel folder was no good08:02
redkrieg_jokoon, should be sudo apt-get install linux-68608:02
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redlanceTime for everybody's favorite subject!  ATI drivers!  I followed the binary driver install how-to, but when I do fglrxinfo I still get that MESA crap...08:02
jokoonRedKrieg : thank you08:02
der0bjokoon: linux-image-68608:02
{_-IcE-_}fnf: ic, any way around it? it wont run as root and i want it to start at bootup08:02
redkrieg_jokoon: np08:02
sureshotRedKrieg thanks i will put that in my cheat cheat08:02
fnf{_-IcE-_}, if that's a process an ordinary user can manipulate, it would be more convenient to put the command in your bash.rc08:03
M_A_KI just installed ubuntu.  How do I install KDE now?08:03
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aoupiM_A_K: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:03
M_A_KThere are many items in synaptic for KDE.08:03
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{_-IcE-_}fnf: but it would start once that user logs in then right?08:03
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fnf{_-IcE-_}, yes08:04
{_-IcE-_}fnf: i want it to load before08:04
aoupiM_A_K: or grab kubuntu-desktop in synaptic08:04
jokoonMh, error message08:04
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eetfunkhow do i get a list of installed packages from the command line?08:04
M_A_Kaoupi : I didn't think of looking for kubuntu.  Thanks.  Will that change the greeter and log in screen?08:04
elvar!paste08:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:05
aoupiM_A_K: it should change everything, just reboot when it is installed08:05
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fnf{_-IcE-_}, another way is to change the owner of that process to a particular user, but I haven't done it yet.08:05
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der0bm_a_k: if you select to use kdm during install it will change the greeter08:05
M_A_KI dont necessarily want to switch to kubuntu, just play around with kde.08:05
{_-IcE-_}hm, i think thats what i need then08:05
redlanceAny suggestions?  (Other then get an Invidia card)08:05
raintheorywhat command can i add to the end of a script to restart x?08:05
jokoonE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:05
der0bm_a_k: just select gdm when prompter08:05
M_A_KI tried installing kubuntu, but was not very comfortable with it.  I kind of like Gnome.08:05
der0bm_a_k: just select gdm when prompted08:05
krazykitjokoon: if you have any other package manager running, close it08:06
TheGateKeepereetfunk: apt-cache search <whatever> or dpkg -S filename08:06
elvar!paste08:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:06
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elvar!pastebin08:06
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M_A_KWhat is the difference between kubuntu-desktop and kdebase?08:06
elvarsomeone tell me about paste site08:06
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eetfunkTheGateKeeper: i need a list of packages currently installed on my box, not search for a package08:06
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elvarso i can paste my stuff on website and you can check it08:06
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der0beetfunk: dpkg -l08:06
elvar!paste08:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:06
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brettm!paste08:07
brettmhehehehe08:07
finalbeta!5.108:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:07
raintheory!surround08:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about surround - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:07
eetfunkder0b:  thnx108:07
raintheoryhmm08:07
TheGateKeepereetfunk: don't know off the top of my head try man:apt-get08:08
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noneeehello, I've installed beryl and xgl.. all is working ok but video is a bit slow.. I have an ati radeon mobility 920008:08
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krazykitnoneee: that'd be because you're using a mobility 9200.08:08
bogohi08:08
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tonyyarussononeee: Ask in #ubuntu-xgl for that kind of stuff.08:08
bogoany one could help me with twin monitor?08:08
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noneeealso opengl games are slow08:09
noneee(when not using xgl)08:09
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furestaHi folks, could someone tell me if it's safe to delete all the packages in var/cache/apt?08:09
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noneeebut dri is working08:09
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krazykitfuresta: no, don't do taht.  use apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean08:09
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defryskfuresta, simply sudo apt-get clean08:10
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r00khey08:10
furestadefrysk: Thx a lot!08:10
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r00kdoes anyone know how to get a dell 922 pringer driver08:10
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antonihey has anybody succesfuly set up wifi for an 'Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG' card/08:10
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slacktyroi'm not able to download the jre through apt-get, i already enable multiverse servers08:11
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der0bslacktyro: did you apt-get update after adding multiverse?08:11
noneeegreat tonyyarusso08:11
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AlienXubotu, tell antoni about wireless08:11
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tonyyarussoslacktyro: What happens when you try?08:12
oddjob151hello ... I just put together a new PC.. Abit AB9 Pro with Intel Core Duo E6600 2.4 GHz with Nvidia GeForce 7600 GT  ... I am trying to install Ubuntu AMD64 using the iso however I cannot get it past "Booting Kernel", it freezes... i've read some forum posts and tried noacpi but without any luck... can someone help me install Ubuntu 64 on my machine? or point me in the right direction08:12
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faroushi wondering anyone can link me to a link for information on how to make a homepage for a course i am teaching. I am mainly looking for a free site that might host the course homepage. I know this is little off topic but i know you are a great community :)08:13
tonyyarussoslacktyro: Package name is sun-java5-bin08:13
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ZiRoive even tried editing usr/sbin/adduser08:14
tonyyarussofarous: Ask every once in a while in #ubuntu-offtopic (that's where we handle the great-community-but-not-support... kind of stuff)08:14
ZiRoi changed the chmod from 0755 to 0750 and no joy :\08:14
r00kdoes anyone know how to get a dell 922 pringer driver08:14
maverick`-oddjob151, Intel Core Duo is 32bit, not 64bit08:14
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slacktyroder0b: tonyyarusso i try jre, jre* there're lot of packages but not the one that i want08:14
maverick`-and AMD is not Intel ;)08:14
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faroustonyyarusso: fair enough08:15
der0bmaverick`-: core2 doesn't support emt64?08:15
tonyyarussoslacktyro: You want sun-java5-bin; is that not available?08:15
r00kwhats a good channel to discuss printer drivers?08:15
slacktyrotonyyarusso: it's not finding this package08:16
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maverick`-der0b, oh my failure.08:16
sergevn_Good evening, I have a question, i have plugged my usbharddrive in my ubuntu machine, it autmounts prefect, but my question is: how can i configure autmount? so that it mounts using ntfs-fuse08:16
maverick`-you are right, it support emt6408:16
_azraelHey, does anyone know a good way to resolve this:08:16
_azraelThe following packages have unmet dependencies:rn  libxine-dev: Depends: libxine-main1 (= 1.1.1+ubuntu2-7) but 1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2 is to be installedrnE: Broken packages08:16
tonyyarussoslacktyro: Which ones do you see?  (Did you update after adding multiverse?)08:16
krazykitr00k: dunno, check linuxprinting's site to see if there's an irc channel08:16
_azraelI've looked around for another package name that might include the headers, but I haven't seen anything else.08:17
_azraelIdeas?08:17
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tonyyarussosergevn_: Let me know if you find out.08:17
oddjob151maverick: to my understanding the Intel Core Duo E6600 supports the Extended Memory 64 Technology EM64T which is "supported" in the Ubuntu 64 bit version08:17
maverick`-der0b, core 2 duo is 64bit, but only core duo is 32 bit.08:17
r00kthx08:17
slacktyrotonyyarusso: yep, when i try apt-get install sun-java5-bin08:17
M_A_KWhere does ubuntu store the wallpaper pictures?08:17
slacktyrotonyyarusso: it returns not found08:17
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tonyyarussoslacktyro: What do you have available?08:17
sergevn_tonyyarusso: i havent found a solution yet :), i was asking the channel because i cant find it on tech forums etc.08:18
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oddjob151maveric: my apologies, I have the Intel Core 2 Duo08:18
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tonyyarussosergevn_: yeah..I'm sure someone knows; I just haven't found them yet.08:18
slacktyrotonyyarusso: you mean at source.list?08:18
_azraelAre header files simply lacking for this package at this time? I would like to avoid installing too many packages from source, but if I can't get the -dev package in I'll need to.08:18
coyctecmwhat's the status of metacity composite support in edgy08:18
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maverick`-oddjob151, maybe i had better to read...08:18
tonyyarussoslacktyro: No; you said you found other packages but not that one.  Which ones?08:19
tonyyarussocoyctecm: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions08:19
coyctecmI have added Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection in xorg.conf, but nothing happens08:19
UbuntuGuyALl -- any idea how edgy is coming?08:19
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coyctecmok08:19
slacktyrotonyyarusso: i found other packages when i try jre*08:20
tonyyarussoUbuntuGuy: #ubuntu+1 for yours also :)08:20
tonyyarussoslacktyro: Like...?08:20
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oddjob151can anyone help me with installing 64 bit Ubuntu on an Intel Core 2 Duo machine? I am having trouble getting the cd to boot past a certain poing (sits at "Booting Kernel")08:20
slacktyrotonyyarusso: docbook-jrefentry08:20
UbuntuGuyjoin #ubuntu+108:20
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sergevn_tonyyarusso: I also tried adding it to /etc/fstab, but then it creates 2 mount points, the one i configged in fstab and an autogenerated location; example: fstab, /media/data    automount then creates /media/data-108:21
UbuntuGuytonyyarusso: thanks!08:21
tonyyarussosergevn_: Eww.08:21
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tonyyarussoslacktyro: Sounds like you have universe added but not multiverse.08:21
totall_6_7oddjob151: try this site if you want info on what intell chips support 64 bit http://or1cedar.cps.intel.com/isn/community/en-us/blogs/mult-core_com/archive/2006/09/20/30224178.aspx08:21
sergevn_tonyyarusso: I can work with it, but i want to just edit the automount configuration :)08:21
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RedKrieg|Workdoes anyone know where the vnc settings are stored for the built in remote desktop utility?  I'm connected via ssh and don't have access to the gui to configure08:21
mirro-ircok, i'm absolutely new to linux, i downloaded Mozilla2beta in .gz file. What am i supposed to do now to install it??08:22
lob22i just installed 6.10 beta and i have a wireless network and wen i do dhcp for the wireless card it dont connect me to the internet08:22
tonyyarussosergevn_: Yeah, my hope was to mount flash drives with the "sync" option so I could pull them out whenever without unmounting.08:22
bruenigmirro-irc, extract it and then run the script08:22
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KenSentMemirro-irc: normally you install things with synaptic/adept08:22
whysoim on regular ubuntu now, is it too late to switch over to kde?08:22
bruenigKenSentMe, it is not available in the repos08:22
sergevn_tonyyarusso: that is working with me, hot swappable, but not mounting it hotswappable with writeable access08:22
tonyyarussomirro-irc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion if you're trying those.08:22
briguydwhyso, nope08:23
sureshothey all if i wanted to install edgy on a usb device can that be done and boot it as well my puter has not floppy drive08:23
whysoive installed gnome packages, id have to remove those at the least right?08:23
RedKrieg|Workwhyso: no, you can sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop08:23
briguydwhyso, no, you can just install kubuntu-desktop08:23
lob22can somone help me08:23
sergevn_tonyyarusso: it is a NTFS partition with all my data on it :)08:23
whysowow so cool08:23
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tonyyarussowhyso: Nope.  You can add kubuntu-desktop and have both, or remove Gnome if you wish.08:23
briguydwhyso, and you'll have both gnome and KDE08:23
tonyyarussosergevn_: Could be important08:23
KenSentMebruenig: i know, but if someone is new i don think he or she wants to compile stuff08:23
briguydwhyso, and xubuntu-desktop for xfce08:23
tonyyarussosureshot: Yes, you can install to usb devices now.08:23
slacktyrotonyyarusso: i uncoment all server at sources.list08:24
tonyyarusso!ask > lob2208:24
whysonice! this is so crazily better than windows08:24
totall_6_7briguyd: how does one switch between the two desktops gnome and kde??08:24
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slacktyrotonyyarusso: still not working08:24
KenSentMemirro-irc: maybe you should read http://help.ubuntu.com first about installing etc08:24
briguydtotall_6_7, log out and change your "session"08:24
tonyyarussoslacktyro: That's not enough.08:24
bruenigKenSentMe, perhaps although there no compilation for that, it is just precompiled binaries, but I get your point08:24
tonyyarusso!multiverse > slacktyro08:24
lob22tonyyarusso i just installed 6.10 beta and i have a wireless network and wen i do dhcp for the wireless card it dont connect me to the internet08:24
totall_6_7thanks briguyd :)08:24
ianmacgregorlob22: /join #ubuntu+108:24
RedKrieg|Worklob22 I reccomend joining #ubuntu+108:24
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briguydtotall_6_7, any time08:25
sureshottonyyarusso good i have a usb converter to sata with a 250gb drive want to try edgy with out messing up my dapper08:25
sergevn_tonyyarusso: I tried disabling it in the Prerences> Removeable Drives and Media, and then manual mounting them, but then he cant find the device anymore in /dev/08:25
whysowill my old apps still be runnable (ones that depend on gnome) from kde?08:25
bruenigwhyso yes08:25
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tonyyarussosergevn_: Maybe they're just named differently?08:25
whysotoo awsome :)!!08:25
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lob22iight thanks08:26
briguydwhyso, and KDE apps run under gnome08:26
totall_6_7whyso: even so it seems that you can switch between them just by logging on and switching sessions08:26
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slacktyrotonyyarusso: so, i'm lost :)08:26
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totall_6_7whyso: so if you do not like it, no loss08:26
sergevn_tonyyarusso: The devices, yes but what i can find it dmesg when i plug in the hdd, it says /dev/sdb1, but when i try to mount then he cant find the device.08:26
Jhonny1009why do pages in firefox look so much different than in windows? it's not even close08:26
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sergevn_ tonyyarusso: sorry for crappy english :)08:27
bruenigJhonny1009, windows is not a web browse, so that is probably where the problem is.08:27
whysoah ok, ty for the help, one more q: how do i get my drives to mount automatically when i boot08:27
tonyyarussoslacktyro: You need to add the word multiverse on the end of the line that had universe, essentially.  The link from the bot will have more detail.08:27
slacktyroJhonny1009: try ctrl plus08:27
bruenigbrowser*08:27
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tonyyarussosergevn_: Hmm, don't know what it's doing then.08:27
Jhonny1009bruenig I ment firefox in windows :)08:27
sergevn_Jhonny1009: Because it's a different browser, just like you buy a mercedes and a fiat panda, it's both a car :P08:28
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tonyyarussoJhonny1009: Define different please?08:28
Jhonny1009slacktyro, I tryed that.. still looks very different08:28
bruenigJhonny1009, how so, I know there are different fonts and stuff but other than that it should be the same08:28
whysoJhonny1009: you maybe had plugins/themes on teh windows one?08:28
slacktyrotonyyarusso: thank you man, now it's updating08:29
Jhonny1009there are different fonts.. ye, text relative sizes are verrryy different08:29
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sergevn_tonyyarusso: ah well, my cousin is coming to visit this evening, and he's a debain guru so hopefully he can fix it :), ill let you know then i solved the problem :)08:29
whysoJhonny1009: i think you can download the windows fonts search in synaptic08:29
slacktyroJhonny1009: press ctrl and + to zoom in and ctrl and - to zoom out08:29
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tonyyarussoJhonny1009: Yeah, fonts and that sort of thing are to be expected, although they can be changed.  Many of the fonts you're used to are owned by MS, and can't be redistributed legally by Ubuntu, although you can get them separately on your own.08:30
tonyyarusso!msttcorefonts > Jhonny100908:30
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tonyyarussosergevn_: Sweet08:30
whysotonyyarusso: thats mean :(08:30
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Jhonny1009hmm .. looking at te fonts thing08:31
tonyyarussowhyso: What, owning fonts?08:31
whyso<tonyyarusso> !msttcorefonts > Jhonny100908:31
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totall_6_7!msttcorefonts > totall_6_708:32
totall_6_7cool08:32
whysowhats that even mean, that your less that a font :?)08:32
whysothan*08:33
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tonyyarussowhyso: Hehe, no.08:34
totall_6_7whyso look at your private message from ubotu08:34
tonyyarusso!ubotu > whyso08:34
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totall_6_7now there is a math oriented person, or a programmer08:34
totall_6_7lol08:35
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whysohahah cool08:35
TaPiOnHello08:35
TaPiOnhow can i accelere the trackpad (powerbook) ?08:35
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sergevn_tonyyarusso: i solved the problem, just disable the automounting in the Preferences>Removable Media and Devices, then edit fstab and add the following line: /dev/sdb1 /media/data ntfs-fuse auto,gid=1001,umask=0002 0 0              ntfs-fuse is software to write to ntfs, and it works :)08:37
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Kopiekathi08:37
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jessidHi. I have a little question... xmodmap is used to change the configuration to the keyboard, isnt it? Ok...how can I configure to an apropiatthe keyboard....mine is spanish...and the command I am using is this xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us ...I tryed with .es, but doesnt exist...some help?08:38
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tonyyarussosergevn_: Interesting.08:38
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tonyyarussojessid: Better off using the Gnome keyboard layout selector than manually doing the whole thing.08:38
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aoupijessid: setxkbmap es08:38
sergevn_tonyyarusso: Hope it's clear, im not so good in discribing things in english :)08:38
jessidaoupi ok...let me see...08:39
tonyyarussosergevn_: Meh, fstab is universal :)08:39
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Kopiekathaving a problem with the desktop cd: when i startup with the cd in my drive, everything works fine, i log on etc. I just can't use my keyboard...08:39
x3r0hi does ubuntu have mp3 support and avi?08:39
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jessidaoupi oh man you are God!!!08:39
KenSentMex3r0: yes08:39
tonyyarusso!restricted > x3r008:39
sergevn_tonyyarusso: Well im quite a rookie in linux myself so for me it's like "EUREKA!" :P08:39
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KenSentMex3r0: avi out of the box and after installing some packages08:39
aoupijessid: :) you'll want to change it in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf as well08:40
x3r0KenSentMe, mk08:40
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whysox3r0: if you want a package just use synaptics search08:40
aoupijessid: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the line that has XkbLayout set it to es instead of us08:40
Kopiekatanyone knows why i cannot type anything when i start up with the desktop-cd?08:41
Kopiekatmy keyboard is a default compaq keyboard.08:41
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jessidaoupi i will tell you the truth,... I am trying to configure XGL and there is a step that I have to do this xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us...i would like to load the correct keyboard08:42
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slacktyroi'll have to study now, thank you for the help, bye08:43
jessidaoupi man, I cant use alt key...with that command you told me :(08:43
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x3r0does anyone know about clustering?08:43
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whysoumm sry if this is offtopic, but is there a way to turn off leaving/entering messages in irc?08:43
elvarwhy is my ubuntu slow .to save file like 11mb to my harddisk ??????????????????????????????????????????????????08:44
Psychobudgiewhyso,  what irc client are you using?08:44
elvarthis is just new for me please help nme08:44
elvarme*08:44
Donald1hello, how can i connect to wireless without having to enter my WEP each time?08:44
whysoxchat08:44
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Psychobudgiein xchat do /set irc_conf_mode 108:45
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whysoelvar: what type of partiton is it08:45
Donald1hello, how can i connect to wireless without having to enter my WEP each time?08:45
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unstableI've got a thinkpad x22 laptop, 800 mhz(PIII), with 128 megs of ram, and 3 gig hdd. What is a good distribution of GNU/Linux to use on it? It's for a teacher.08:45
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Psychobudgieor right click on the channel name and highlight the channel name and untick show join/part message08:45
whysoelvar: for me ubuntu is about 10x faster than windows...08:45
unstableThe teacher probably needs a web browser, email client, and office suite08:45
ZiRocan i post a link to the forum as an attempt to gain some answers to my question?08:46
crocdadd the key to your wireless card Donald108:46
tonyyarussoDonald1: It should store in either the default network config, or network-manager.  Don't know why it's not for you.08:46
aoupijessid: try setxkbmap es nodeadkeys08:46
unstableIs it possible/easy to modify gnome to run half decent on this machine with ubuntu?08:46
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whysoDonald1: edubuntu would be good for a teacher08:46
elvarplease check this file :S -> http://download.mozilla.org/?product=suite-1.7.13&os=win&lang=en-US .i am trying to safe this baby to my harddisk /home/ folder*08:46
elvarit is taKING ME so long time :(08:46
whysoi mean unstable08:46
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unstablewhyso: edubuntu is for a student, not teacher. and this is a college teacher08:46
tonyyarussounstable: Any Ubuntu will fit on 3 gig, although not with huge amounts of room.  Ubuntu will run on 800/128, but maybe not ideal.  I'd recommend Xubuntu (Ubuntu with XFCE instead of Gnome).08:47
Donald1crocd: how do i access my wireless card?08:47
crocdelvar: why dont you just use terminal to download it?08:47
unstabletonyyarusso: And for web browser/email/office suite?08:47
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whysoah ok, since you said it was for a slower laptop then there was a lighter distrib, like xbuntu08:47
elvarcrocd couse i dont know how to do it08:47
jessidaoupi cant use alt+F208:47
icheyneunstable, Xubuntu is v. nice08:48
tonyyarussounstable: I believe Firefox/Evolution/OOo just like the Gnome version, but let me check on that.  (You can get whatever you want; not sure what's default)08:48
whysounstable: i heard 6.10 faster too08:48
aoupijessid: open up a terminal and type it in there08:48
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Donald1crocd: how do i access my wireless card?08:48
Kepsxubuntu comes default with thunderbird instead of evolution08:48
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jessidaoupi yes I have already done it, but still having problems with alt F208:48
Kepsbut you can apt-get it if you want08:49
crocdDonald1: is it on ubuntu?08:49
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Donald1crocd: yes08:49
elvarplease guys what could be wrong http://download.mozilla.org/?product=suite-1.7.13&os=win&lang=en-US :S it is taking me 1 hr and 40 min :( what is wrong with my linux ?08:49
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gholenIs it safe to mig dapper reposteries with edgy reposteris?08:49
gholen*mix08:50
crocdelvar: wget http://download.mozilla.org/?product=suite-1.7.13&os=win&lang=en-US08:50
Ranbeehi, is there an ubuntu based distro that's lighter than xubuntu?08:50
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Samuli^ubuntu-server :)08:50
tonyyarussounstable: Firefox, Thunderbird, Abiword/Gnumeric are default.08:50
Ranbeefor a noob08:50
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tonyyarussogholen: Not unless you're feeling really lucky/adventurous.08:50
elvarcroced it is the same :( 1 hr and 50 min to complete this08:50
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crocdnot sure I dont have my laptop up and it has a gentoo distro on. but from memory if you go to your networking option and then select your card you should be able to get to WEP authentication settings08:51
whysotonyyarusso:  are defaults really so important? if your installing it for someone anyways then you can just change it08:51
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tonyyarussoRanbee: Fluxbuntu08:51
KepsRanbee: fluxbuntu, but depends on how noob you are :)08:51
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tonyyarussowhyso: Correct.08:51
Samuli^Ranbee, I think fluxbox, icewm or enlightenment 16 are lighter than xfce4(xubuntu).08:51
Donald1crocd: yes i'm on ubuntu, how do i access my wireless card?08:51
aoupijessid: try in #ubuntu-es they probably have more experience with spanish keyboards :)08:51
Samuli^Ranbee, from those I would try enlightenment 1608:51
crocdFluxbuntu is only on dev alpha status and only for the brave hearted who want to play08:51
jessidaoupi ok...thanks!08:51
gholentonyyarusso, Okej, just wondering?08:52
Ranbeetonyyarusso: Keps Samuli^  great thanks for the help08:52
elvarthis linux stuff is to slow the i thought :( back to windows for now .it's good think that i had duel boot08:52
whysotonyyarusso:  :) it seems everyones so hung up on them though!08:52
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crocdDonald1: go to network admin08:52
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jessidaoupi but, how can I restore the old state of the keyboard, after i did what you told me?08:52
aoupijessid: setxkbmap us08:52
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Kopiekatdoes anyone know why my keyboard doesn't work in ubuntu?08:52
Kopiekatit does in windows08:52
crocdDonald1: if your card is detected as wireless you should be able to access the properties or settings to change them08:53
tonyyarussowhyso: They're important for many purposes, just maybe not yours and mine ;)08:53
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x3r0jessid, what type of KB?08:53
link_36pHey anyone know if the ipod lib had nano G2 support?08:53
Donald1Crocd: yes, i can access it08:53
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jessidx3r0 generic 101 keys08:53
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ZiRoplease help; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27978308:54
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x3r0jessid, setxkbmap us-10108:54
x3r0i think08:54
x3r0let me look again08:54
x3r0hold om08:54
link_36pDoes anyone know if ipod nano G2 support is in ubuntu?08:54
x3r0on08:54
Donald1crocd: i go to wireless connection -> properties -> ???08:54
jessidx3r0 Error loading new keyboard description08:54
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josephhi08:55
aoupijessid: setxkbmap -layout es -model pc10108:55
aoupijessid: or pc102 might work08:55
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mirro-ircwhere i can get a prog to run windows programm on ubuntu?08:55
x3r0yesh08:55
x3r0pc10208:55
gogahello everyone , i 've just installed xfce on dapper and i cant find the compositing manager (not the compiz) in  Settings manager->Window manager tweaks. does anyone knows how can i find it ? or install it?08:55
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jessidaoupi where do you get those arguements?08:55
aoupiman setxkbmap and google :)08:55
josephanyone having problem with  a cisco 350 wlan PCMCIA on dapper08:55
elvarwhat could be wrong :( all things are slow in my ubuntu but not on windows .is it couse i have duel booted windows and linux?????08:55
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whysomirro-irc: try the win 32 codecs and wine08:56
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gdbZiRo: dpkg-reconfigure adduser08:56
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whysomirro-irc: search for them using synaptic package manager08:56
gdbZiRo: one of the options will be "Hide user directories from other users" or something08:56
kmu_mirro-irc: also see vmware server08:56
gdbZiRo: say "Yes" or "No" or whatever based on the question08:56
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elvar!slow08:57
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about slow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:57
x3r0does anyone cluster with ubuntu?08:57
elvar!ubuntuslow08:57
aoupielvar: dual booting does not slow down ubuntu, mus be something else08:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuslow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:57
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gogadoes anyone knows why the "compositing " tab , is missing in Settings manager->Window manager tweaks on xfce?08:57
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elvaraoupi i dont know :s08:57
gdbZiRo: It's "Do you want system wide readable home directories?"  Answer "No"08:57
gdbZiRo: that's all there is to it08:57
Donald1How can i configure my wireless to connect automatically without having to put the WEP in each time?08:57
manimalanybody know the command to stop dhclient?08:58
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unstable /wc08:58
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x3r0i use qwerty/us.map08:58
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elvaryeah there is a new packegs on my disktop that i need to upgrade and install maybe that is why? aopui08:58
jessidsee you in a second.....08:58
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sureshothey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such08:58
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elvaraopui i have tryied to ugrade and install ,this packages but it will take me , 5 hr to finsh all of it :(08:59
jonassssHi, is anyone familiar with running ubuntu dapper on an HP nx6125 and has succeeded with wireless internet connection?08:59
marcrosoftwhen trying to run hal, i get this error08:59
Donald1How can i configure my wireless to connect automatically without having to put the WEP in each time?08:59
marcrosoft12:59:50.107 [E]  hald_dbus.c:3258: dbus_bus_get(): Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory08:59
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ericperssonis there some nongraphical installation stuff for the desktopversion?08:59
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C-O-L-Tcan I use a Multimedia Projector with Ubuntu Linux?08:59
aoupisureshot: try :)08:59
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elvaraoupi ; i guess you are not familiar with this09:00
ericperssonDonald1: hava look at wpa_supplicant..09:00
elvarso i guess*09:00
aoupielvar: not at all, my ubuntu is fast as lightning09:00
sureshotaoupi i dont want to hose up grub on my laptop is what i am trying to avoid09:00
Donald1ericpersson: ok, i do this in terminal?09:01
asmo674hurthow to set up original usplash?09:01
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ericperssonDonald1: well, not sure, i have only used it on debian, but try google, and then install it in the package manager..09:01
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C-O-L-T!projector09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about projector - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:02
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UKMattwhats the ubuntu off topic room09:03
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aoupiUKMatt: #ubuntu-offtopic09:03
jcookeis there something extra I need to install to be able to use the mount -t smbfs command09:04
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temptedquestion: i loaded all the appropriate webserver stuff.. and am hosting a webpage.... but through my router and stuff / which is properly configured, i can't load through port 80.... am i forgetting something, is there a firewall setting that i am forgetting?09:06
ericperssonis there a nongraphical installation for ubuntu?09:06
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aoupitempted: can you connect to http://localhost ?09:07
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defryskericpersson, alternative install you mean ?09:07
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temptedaoupi: yes.09:07
ericperssondefrysk: is that what its called?09:07
defryskyes09:08
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jcookeericpersson, by the router being properly configured, you mean that port 80 is forwarded to that machine?09:08
jcooketempted rather, not ericpersson09:08
ericperssonhehe09:08
meatballhat9000anybody know the command line way to stop dhclient?09:08
ericperssondefrysk: can i get into the alternative install with the normal livecd, or do i need to download something else?09:08
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defryskericpersson, get the alternative install cd09:09
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temptedjcooke, as far as i can tell ya, everything is forwarded properly09:09
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jcookemeatballhat9000, killall dhclient309:09
jcooke:)09:09
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ericperssondefrysk: damn, thought I would be able to do it with this one. :/ thanks anyway..09:09
gjerdehei09:09
cr3anyone happen to have a wifi card with broadcom chipset? can it work with ndiswrapper on dapper?09:09
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temptedkinda fustrating.. i got all my php. sql setup... but can't go outside this dam router... i thought maybe it was an ubuntu internal firewall or something09:10
sco8ie I hate to say this but after installing Ubuntu on a 1.8 GHz PC with 256 MB RAM, I found to be slower than Windows 2000. :S it takes me almost 2 hr to download 11 mb files for a site09:10
Jhonny1009this may sound silly ,but what is the default root password for 6.06?09:10
meatballhat9000jcooke: that's what I thought... getting "dhclient3: no process killed" :-( sorry....09:10
sco8iebut in windows much much faster09:10
jcooketempted, maybe config your httpd to listen on it's network ip?09:10
temptedhow do i go about dat?09:10
Donald1how do i set my ubuntu to remember my WEP key?09:10
aoupitempted: in the apache conf, find the Listen line make sure it is Listen 8009:11
temptedk.. let me go look09:11
cr3sco8ie: was your windows box configured to use a proxy server?09:11
Jhonny1009what is the default root password?09:11
ericperssondefrysk: happen to where i can get it?09:11
aoupi!sudo09:11
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:11
Donald1how do i set my ubuntu to remember my WEP key?09:12
defryskericpersson, on the downloadpage09:12
FordPrefectif you must become root then do "sudo su -"09:12
FordPrefectthen type in YOUR password09:12
aoupior just sudo -s09:12
ericperssondefrysk: nothing on there called alternative..09:12
TheGateKeepersco8ie: most linux distros are usually faster at downloading stuff than windows, I know my kubuntu system is quicker than windows09:12
jcookeDonald1, by editing your network scripts in /etc/network/?09:12
defryska sec...09:12
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jcookeDonald1, /etc/network/interfaces I think09:13
Hexidigitalanyone using the app kxdocker that can tell me where the .xml config file should be located?09:13
defryskericpersson, http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso09:13
Donald1jcooke: do i access it from the terminal?09:13
ericperssondefrysk: found it on the download page? thanks anyway..09:13
defryskericpersson, yes I did09:14
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sureshotDonald1 try download gnetswitch in synaptic package manager it says it will do this for you09:14
Jhonny1009ubotu, I read it, so does this mean that :root: does not exist in ubuntu?09:14
Donald1sureshot: thanx09:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about I read it, so does this mean that :root: does not exist in ubuntu? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:14
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aoupijonassss: ubotu is a bot, but you are correct09:14
sureshotDonald1 search on wep profile09:14
aoupiops09:14
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aoupiJhonny1009: ubotu is a bot, but you are correct09:15
Jhonny1009HEHE< BO T:)09:15
Donald1sureshot: where's the wep profile?09:15
ericperssondefrysk: i must be blind, thanks for the direct link though..09:15
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temptedjcooke, i do the notice of "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName" when i restart apache09:15
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defryskericpersson, select  europe mirror on the downloadpage , continue from there , and you'l see it ;)09:16
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redlanceOkay, I got fglrx installed and working.  Had to do it the hard way with the actual ATI drivers and compile the package myself, but that seems to have worked.  Now I want to test it.  I have used glxgears.  What else is there?09:16
jcooketempted, I don't remember what that means, but I don't think it's bad09:16
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sureshotDonald1 bring up synapitc pagaga manger click on search and type wep profile as the search criteria and it will give you the lists09:16
aoupitempted: find the ServerName line in the apache conf and set it to your domain name (like www.mysite.com) if you don't have one don't bother about it09:16
temptedme neither... i can just add two lines at the end.. and it goes away... but i feel like it's something else i am forgeting09:16
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djmccormick i'm trying to install either ubuntu or fedora on this box, it has four SCSI drives that were previously in a RAID array. i'm having trouble with the raid stuff, and don't need it anyway, so now i'm just attempting to install on the first drive. i've got it installed, but can't boot into the installation. all raid arrays in the controller have been deleted, and in the bios everything is just set to "auto" and it doesn't show any drive nam09:16
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Donald1sureshot: i downloaded gnetswitch, it seems to work, it has an autoconnection option09:17
temptedaoupi, ya, i don't have my domain name setup yet... waiting for my hosting to cancel...09:17
temptedya, i figured that09:17
elvarplease someone tell me how to check for errors or stuff :/ to find out why is my computer (ubuntu) slow09:17
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elvarit's so crazy how slow it is09:17
factotumif I have restarted my system and I have prefetching installed, do I have to run it again after reboot, or is that more automated than just the default scan every 14 days09:17
aoupielvar: run top in a terminal to see if one proccess is using alot of resources (like 99% CPU)09:18
RancidLMhey all kinda a offtopic question i have multiple pop accounts that i check from 2 computers is there a way for both computeres to see the same archived email.. kinda like how a exchange server works?09:18
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temptednow i am just fustrated... :(09:18
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brownedwg89elvar: do you have proprietary drivers installed?09:18
RancidLMdo i have to share my mbox files? would that work?09:18
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elvari think so :(09:18
sureshotDonald1 i am glad i hope it works for you.. if you install the kde invironment download the knetswitch as well i think i dont know that much .. as i said i live in the boonies i dont even use the security on my wireless netowork09:18
aoupitempted: you still can't connect from outside the router?09:18
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factotumanother thing, i just installed unreal tournament and neverwinter nights on my system and Im totaly stoked on how much better they run then on winxp, any other games to recommend?09:19
elvari installd inidia09:19
redlanceWelp, I found the one I wanted.  It's fgl_glxgears...I'm getting over 565 FPS09:19
amayerahi09:19
temptednope.... i'm gonna check my router setting again.09:19
loupgaroublondhow do i enable widescreen support in ubuntu? my resolution 1280x800 isn't showing up09:19
amayerawhat do I have to do to get my solution for suspend2ram which works for my laptop looked at and maybe included into the main distro?09:19
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brownedwg89elvar: type "glxinfo | grep direct" into console09:19
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defryskloupgaroublond sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:19
ZirJokerspanish09:20
elvari installd nvidia-glx and then glx dav that is the stuffs i have installd  ,myabe the glx dav wrong ,.i get yes09:20
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Donald1sureshot: thank you again09:20
defryskloupgaroublond, run the defaults exept your screenresolution09:20
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loupgaroublonddefrysk, for some reason, that didn't work, and i found all this tablet junk that made gdm crash on startup09:20
Chm0dhow the heck can i get rid of mythtv?  all of it09:20
sureshotDonald1 if you would have clicked on your network icon went to properties and then the general tab i think it would have let you do that as well just looked at it09:20
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loupgaroublonddefrysk, you might want a non command line answer for that too09:21
sureshotDonald1 you are welcome09:21
temptedaoupi, jcooke... i got it... one freaking digit was off in my router setup... thanks a bunch tho09:21
elvarsemboy@SigurNafnjesu:~$ glxinfo | grep direct09:21
elvardirect rendering: Yes09:21
tempted:)09:21
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jcooke:)09:21
Slaj_Ranyone here proficient with regular expression?09:21
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aoupitempted: :p09:21
jcookeSlaj_R, sometimes09:21
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elvarbrownedwg89 maybe it was wrong to install , glx dav !!!!???? yes or no please09:21
brownedwg89elvar: did you try "top"?09:21
temptedstupid me09:22
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jcooketempted, I've done worse, to a server hosting 200+ domains ;(09:22
elvari am trying now09:22
brownedwg89elvar: anything using a lot of cpu?09:22
elvartempted you aint stupid09:22
Slaj_Rjcooke: I'm making a list in vim, and each line is preceded by a number.  When inserting a new item, I want to do a global search/replace to increment each of the following lines by one.  What's the format for a multiple digit number?09:22
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chuckypWhat'd he do?09:22
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johsohiya guys.09:23
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temptedouch... that is pretty rough... i just gave up on my hosting package.. limited way too much... so i setup the server on my desktop.. it runs most of the time.... now i can hope that i can keep my domain name...09:23
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loupgaroublonddefrysk, i just did what you said, selected only my native resolution, and the screen resolution utility tells me all there is, is the standard svga resolutions09:23
jcookeSlaj_R,  you mean like [0-9] +09:23
elvarbrownedwg89 yeah my root09:23
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temptedhow do i make it so my domain name is forwarded to my ip?09:23
whysowhere are programs stored? (example beagle/Log09:23
brownedwg89elvar: is it xorg?09:23
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elvaraha but it is just at 0.12 and 16.009:24
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elvarit changes09:24
Slaj_Rjcooke: Yes, except the numbers will range into 3 digits.  I don't want to increment every single digit by one, just the ranking of each line.09:24
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defryskloupgaroublond, make sure to restart x after09:24
brownedwg89hmmm09:24
dejavu_hi09:24
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loupgaroublonddefrysk, /etc/init.d/gdm stop then start09:24
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elvarbrownedwg89 maybe i installd something wrong ?09:24
loupgaroublonddone, but it's not helping09:24
jsharpeis there anyway that I can avoid the graphical installation?09:24
defryskfor example09:24
dejavu_whats new since dapper was released, I've been away09:24
webfreakjsharpe: download the alternate install cd09:25
loupgaroublonddefrysk, or do you have anoter method to restart it?09:25
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webfreak+image09:25
ianmacgregorjsharpe: Use the Alternate CD09:25
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brownedwg89elvar: did you install anything that would use a lot of cpu?09:25
totall_6_7whyso: they could be in a couple of different places but first i would check your home directory (once you are there hit ctrl-h to view hidden files (program files))09:25
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jcookeSlaj_R, are you going to be using regex in vi to do this? or an external script?09:25
defryskloupgaroublond, the rude way is ctrl-alt-backspace09:25
whysothanks09:25
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elvarbrownedwg89 all i did was setting up my video card today09:25
johsoI give up. I've just reinstalled Ubuntu because I thought that an ethernet card that wasn't installed anymore was conflicting with the one installed (that, and my urge for a clean system). Well, no luck when booting the new installation. I powered off my hub and my router for a few minutes, changed my cable and tried again - no luck. Got any ideas as to what is wrong? Any help would be appreciated.09:25
petternHi. im having problems with Kate. It has worked fine for a long time until i suddenly couldnt write . I dont have that problem in any other programs and changing the encoding in kate doesnt seem to help at all. any suggestions?09:25
elvarnothing ells brownedwg8909:26
Slaj_Rjcooke: I suppose i could do two commands.  Replace 0-8 with 0-8 plus one, and replace x9 with [x+1] 0.09:26
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brownedwg89elvar: i dont know what it could be09:26
elvar!nvidia09:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:26
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whysowow didnt know all that was hidden there :)09:26
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Slaj_Rjcooke:  Can it be done with a single vim command?09:26
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totall_6_7whyso: hehehe09:26
jcookeSlaj_R, not sure ;( not too familiar with regex in vi09:26
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loupgaroublonddefrysk, no dice, it won't work at all, which is strange, cause it even has the right resolution in xorg.conf09:26
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Slaj_Rjcooke:  Okay, thanks.  I tried searching the forums at vim.org, but for some reason their site isn't loading.09:26
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defryskloupgaroublond, set your vid driver to vesa09:27
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defryskloupgaroublond, then it should work09:27
don-ohow do i fix "Could not open default font fixed" from Xorg?09:27
jcookeSlaj_R, someone in #perl might have some insight on it09:27
elvarbrownedwg89 maybe i should try to unninstall nvidia-glx-dev09:27
MojoWorkanyone know what package perl's HTML::Entities aka HTML/Entities.pm would be in?09:27
sureshothey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such09:27
don-othis is immeadiately after an upgrade to Edgy09:27
Zaggynl_'Zaggynl ##linux :Cannot send to channel so cannot change nicks'09:27
whysototall_6_7: hmmm seems beagled is failing on files with " " in them :( is there a way around this (should i make a script that replaces " " with "_"?09:27
loupgaroublonddefrysk, will that give me gfx acceleration from my gma950 chip?09:27
Zaggynl_right, I can't send to the channel :/09:27
whysoid rather not have to09:27
elvarbrownedwg89 couse i didnt know why i did this :(09:27
elvarbrownedwg89 is it ok ?09:27
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defryskloupgaroublond, as you probably know..... nope no exel whatsoever09:28
brownedwg89elvar: you shouldnt need it, so go ahead09:28
loupgaroublonddefrysk, that's not a fair answer09:28
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MojoWorknm, found it using web packages search09:28
elvarbrownedwg89 linux-restricted-modules-amd64-kb i dont have this package :S09:28
defryskvesa is a generic drive09:28
MojoWorkman i wish you could search package contents locally09:28
totall_6_7whyso: no clue, maybe someone else can answer that09:28
defryskloupgaroublond, unfortunately i have no further resolution for your problem :(09:29
brownedwg89elvar: i dont know if you need that, try it if you want09:29
whysototall_6_7: ah ok, thanks anyways!09:29
whysodoes anyone know how to get beagle to work in directories with " "?09:29
sureshothey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such09:29
loupgaroublonddefrysk, oh well, it would be fair if this was another distro, just it seems like ubuntu shouldhave a better answer for that09:29
TheGateKeeperMojoWork: with apt-get cache ??09:29
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MojoWorkTheGateKeeper: that doesn't search contents09:29
MojoWorki.e. files in the package09:29
defryskloupgaroublond, an other person might now the answer09:30
MojoWorkand dpkg can only search them for installed packages of course09:30
defryskloupgaroublond, ask again later09:30
defryskmaybe someone else can help you09:30
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webfreakhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/09:30
loupgaroublonddefrysk, i won't have internet later :(09:30
webfreakyou can search the contents of all packages there09:30
defryskmy bad :(09:30
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willhi all09:30
loupgaroublonddefrysk, only if you want to accept blame for my lack of internet :P09:31
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willim havin some trouble recompiling the kernel09:31
MojoWorkwebfreak: yeah that's how i found it. i wish you could do that locally09:31
defrysklol loupgaroublond09:31
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will2 secs...09:31
MojoWorkwebfreak: w/o searching a cd of packages (assuming you can do it that way even)09:31
tomaczechi09:31
webfreakMojoWork: sorry, i just scrolled up and saw you say that09:31
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ZiRothe add user interface surely uses the terminal "adduser" right?09:31
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ZiRo(it acts like a front end to the terminal based application)09:32
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MojoWorkmeanwhile there's probably and apt/dpkg config option that lets you do that, heh09:32
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MojoWorklike download the entire package header09:32
MojoWorki probably just don't know it09:32
LogicalDashI want to shrink my Windows partition to make room for Ubuntu. What's some software I can use to do that without damaging Windows?09:32
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MojoWorkLogicalDash: OSS or pay?09:33
willim having trouble recompiling the kernel, i followed the instructions on: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=206992 (except the module patching bit) and managed to create the image and add it to grub, but when i select to load it on startup the screen just goes blank :(09:33
whysohow do i completely wipe a process? i uninstalled beagle with synaptic, and reinstalled, but it kept the old configurations and stuff09:33
MojoWorkLogicalDash: cus partition magic is probably the best, but it costs money09:33
whysopackage* not process09:33
LogicalDashMojoWork: I'd prefer OSS on principle09:33
meatballhat9000LogicalDash: the PerfectDisk software by Raxco has a 30-day trial.. :-)09:33
MojoWorkLogicalDash: parted can do it, but not for NTFS i don't think09:33
Samuli^LogicalDash, partition manager. I wouldn't trust the ones for linux09:33
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meatballhat9000LogicalDash: that's what I used - had to do 4 passes, but it did the job09:33
defryskpartition magic09:33
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jsharpeis there anyway around hard drive I/O errors? -- shoudln't formatting create the filesystem around those bad sectors?09:33
MojoWorkLogicalDash: often you drive comes with a CD that has a util on it that can do it09:33
TheGateKeeperMojoWork: http://linuxreviews.org/man/dpkg-deb/  <-- any use?09:33
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sureshothey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such09:33
LogicalDashmeatballhat9000, what do you mean "passes"?09:33
elvarbrownedwg89 i have many linux-restrickted-models  installd coudl it be the porblem?09:34
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brownedwg89elvar: i dont know09:34
whysohow do you totally uninstall a package (including its configurations)09:34
meatballhat9000LogicalDash: sorry - I defragged four times to get everything smashed up to the front of the disk09:34
brownedwg89elvar: btw are you fully upgraded?09:34
mikeconceptsNeed help: folks, I've spent the better part of a day trying to figure out how to create a launcher on the desktop to simply run a script to run vncviewer 192.168.0.10009:34
elvarbrownedwg89 i have not upgraded couse it is so slow :(09:35
elvarit will take me many hrs09:35
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mikeconceptsany links to a howto?09:35
brownedwg89elvar: so... the internets slow?09:35
MojoWorkTheGateKeeper: nah, that packs and unpacks .deb files09:35
defryskwhyso, apt-get --purge09:35
elvaryeah09:35
defryskwhyso, also read man apt-get09:35
elvarbut the internet is just fine09:35
macographerdoes anyone know what i need to do to get imagemagick working with PDFs?09:35
MojoWorkTheGateKeeper: meh. nevermind. i've got bigger fish to fry ;) thanks though09:35
gravesonis there a way to convert a RPM file to .deb. Lacie just announced lightscriber software that is supported in Ubuntu and provided a RPM file :( for download09:35
elvarnothing wrong with the internat09:35
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whysothanks09:36
MojoWorkl8rz. thanks09:36
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mikeconceptslink to a good tutorial to launch script from a launcher?09:36
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defryskgraveson alien blah.rpm09:36
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defryskgraveson, use with caution09:36
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meatballhat9000mikeconcepts: not to detract from what you're doing, but have you tried gnomeRDP?09:36
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willhas anyone here had problems getting the Marvell Yukon network card to run in ubuntu 6.06?09:36
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willor anyone who knows a fix09:37
elvarbrownedwg89 is it ok to take a picture of my screen so i can show you .what i have installd in my synaptic package manager09:37
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elvar?09:37
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LimonJalisciensei installed my printer hp but i cant make it print over the network09:37
brownedwg89elvar: well, try a "sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"09:37
willive been forced to use windows on my laptop as the internet keeps on cutting out09:37
mikeconceptsmeatballhat9000, yes, and don't like it because I have a dual monitor on the XP machine, and only vnc seems to deal with that properly09:37
gravesondefrysk: can this command screw up other things or only the file i work on ?09:37
brownedwg89sure09:37
LimonJalisciensei did a thousand things09:37
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defryskgraveson, it purger the package and config files09:37
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defryskpurges*09:37
hkaishi09:38
totall_6_7mikeconcepts: do you know the command line in creating a launcher??09:38
meatballhat9000mikeconcepts: gotcha - that'd be an issue ;-)09:38
baxter_kylie_Hi. Having an issue with alternate cd installation erroring out. It could be one of a few points of failure that I've identified. Can anyone assist me in figuring out which pof is to blame?09:38
gravesondefrysk: thanks but that sounds too risky09:38
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defryskgraveson, risky , how ?09:38
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LimonJalisciense;(09:39
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totall_6_7mikeconcepts: the command is: vncviewer address09:39
gravesondefrysk: purges config files ? am i wrong in assuming the system config files ?09:39
willhas anyone here ever recompiled the ubuntu kernel who can point me to a how to that definitely works?09:39
totall_6_7mikeconcepts: it worked for me09:39
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tectahow do i add a module to autoload on boot?09:39
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defryskgraveson, no only the configfiles of the package involved09:39
defrysknothing more09:39
korhalfhey09:39
baxter_kylie_tecta: modprobe09:39
korhalfGDM is screwing up when i try to load XGL09:40
korhalfwhat gives09:40
amayerahi09:40
tectabaxter_kylie, autolmatically on boot09:40
gravesondefrysk: ok then it is worth a try09:40
TheGateKeeperbaxter_kylie_: did you try the cd self-test ?09:40
amayeraanybody else here experiencing problems using dm-crypt and the new usplash in edgy?09:40
defryskgraveson, its pretty safe09:40
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willnoone here has ever recompiled the kernel?09:40
baxter_kylie_TheGateKeeper: There's a self-test? I remember the memory test...09:40
defryskwill, ne need to09:40
elvarbrownedwg86 sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade i did this and then asks about pass and i enter it and then it says this package will be installd and stuff ,and then asks me about wanna continue? i did "y " and then asks me about my password wierd :S?09:40
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etienne_anyone uses dia here?09:41
zOrKWhat's the name of those screen which I saw on the startup?09:41
zOrKscreensplash?09:41
elvarbrownedwg86 and then i entered it  ,.and then it says abort :/09:41
defryskelvar, do sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrad09:41
brownedwg89elvar: what does it do after you say yes?09:41
zOrKit was something like that, I can't remember now.09:41
defryskelvar, do sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:41
defrysksorry09:41
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mikeconceptstotall_6_7, yes, my script has #!/bin/bash09:41
mikeconceptsvncviewer 192.168.0.100 and the launcher I created has the correct path to the script, and I told the launcher to run in a terminal09:41
TheGateKeeperbaxter_kylie_: may be my failing memory, I know there is one on the live & I thought there was also one on the alternate cd, I may have got it wrong09:41
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UdPNew Ubuntu User needs a bit of help09:42
UdPpleeeeeeeeease09:42
defrysk!ask09:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:42
UdPOK - basically09:42
korhalfGDM Crashing on XGL set up, i followed the guide exactly on the ubuntu wiki, NEED HELP09:42
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baxter_kylie_TheGateKeeper: Not at that pc right now but I'll definately look it up. Alternately could I md5 the disc after creation? (and if so ... how? I've admittedly never used checksums)09:42
UdPive been a complete tool - installed ubuntu a while back09:43
tomaczecelvar: the single pipe (|) wasn't this wrong? didnt you mean '||'?09:43
elvarbrownedwg86 this will take for ever :(09:43
UdPforgot my username and password09:43
willwell my problem is that the drivers my network card is using are faulty and I want to change them, I do hav the patch that I would normally apply to a recompile, how do I add this in. Also I think the driver i need is already included but how do i change which one the network card uses09:43
brownedwg89elvar: it takes a while...09:43
UdPhow do i reinstall = not booting from cd09:43
mikeconceptstotall_6_7, tried telling the gnome-terminal to stay open after command runs, no help09:43
willare using are^09:43
UdPor is there a defualt username and password09:43
baxter_kylie_korhalf: first... which guide, please post the link.09:43
willbecause I think my network card is trying to use newer drivers which according to the net arent working with this card09:43
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elvarbrownedwg86 do you think my computer will not slow agein?09:44
elvarbrownedwg86 do you know why my computer slows?09:44
brownedwg89elvar: hopefully09:44
TheGateKeeperbaxter_kylie_: you can before, but never heard of doing it after, you could also use badblocks to make sure that you hdd is ok09:44
brownedwg89elvar: nope09:44
baxter_kylie_theGateKeeper: Badblocks??? what is this? :)09:44
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LogicalDashOK, I'm back09:44
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totall_6_7mikeconcepts: First why do you want it to run in terminal? I just put the command in, selected run as application, and it runs09:45
korhalfbaxter_kylie, Here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl?highlight=%28composite%29%7C%28manager%2909:45
willyou know how in windows u can click on a device in the device manager and change the driver it uses... how do i do this in linux?09:45
TheGateKeeperbaxter_kylie_: it a cli command you use to check your hard disk09:45
korhalfbaxter_kylie, I did method B, followed it to a Tee09:45
LogicalDashmeatballhat9000: ok, you had recommended some partitioning software to me, what was the name again?09:45
mikeconceptstotall_6_7, , perhaps that is all I need09:45
totall_6_7mikeconcepts: first try the acro KISS09:46
TheGateKeeperbaxter_kylie_: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/badblocks.8.html  e.g. badblock -v /dev/hda09:46
totall_6_7then if it doesnt work then get all techy09:46
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mikeconceptstotall_6_7, totally agree09:46
baxter_kylie_theGateKeeper: I should note that the cdrw creating discs is failing, both dvd-roms on the new system are suspect for different reasons (one started having read errors in windows but appears okay in linux, one was perfect in windows but takes 20 minutes to access a disc for some strange reason in linux), and the hdd it's being installed to is a 30GB model from 2000! :-p09:46
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LogicalDashCan anyone recommend some good, free partitioning software with which I can shrink my NTFS partition, leaving Windows intact?09:47
baxter_kylie_korhalf: What is your video card?09:47
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baxter_kylie_logicaldash: QTPARTED09:47
willbah ill keep on trying myself and trawling thru google09:47
willcy'all09:48
will:q09:48
bawnpaUdP, when your system is booting up, before it begins loading the kernel , press a key to enter grub and then choose recovery mode09:48
sheriffwould you recommend Wine to Ubuntu users?09:48
UdPsweet !09:48
UdPtyty09:48
bawnpaif there isn't a recovery mode option09:48
korhalfbaxter_kylie, ATI, i installed fglrx, i did fglrxinfo to make sure09:48
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baxter_kylie_sheriff: It depends on what you need? I've occasionally used it to success.09:48
mikeconceptstotall_6_7, that works, thanks man09:48
bawnpayou can press "e" inside grub and then put   init=/bin/bash  after the kernel09:48
TheGateKeeperbaxter_kylie_: if your cd is knackered then that won't help, you need to also make that the ntfs partition has been resized (using something gparted) to make room for linux to install, at the very least you will want a swap partition and a partition for /09:49
Zaggynl_this is really weird, any 3d app I run hicks and stutters09:49
sheriffwel have you ever used it with Beryl-Xgl?09:49
Zaggynl_glxgears for instance09:49
totall_6_7mikeconcepts: your welcome, thanks for letting me know09:49
bawnpaor perhaps single or singleuser,   but i think there is a "recovery mode" option you can pick09:49
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Zaggynl_23868 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4773.481 FPS with a gf6600gt ?!09:49
sheriffbaxter-kyliewel have you ever used it with Beryl-Xgl?09:49
bawnpayou then need to  type cat /etc/passwd |more and look through there to see the name you recognize as your username09:49
sheriffbaxter-kylie : have you ever used it with Beryl-Xgl?09:49
johsoeureka! I've just found out that I can ping google.com's ip address (66.249.85.99) - but I can't ping (or access via a browser) www.google.com - does anybody know how to solve this problem?09:49
LogicalDashbaxter_kylie_: I need something that I can use without installing Linux first, cause right now I only have WinXP and no real way to reinstall it in a partition.09:49
bawnpathen you can change your password by typing passwd username, and then reboot by typing shutdown -r now09:50
bawnpawhere username is the name of your user account09:50
baxter_kylie_TheGateKeeper: Hah. No no. This is definately not a dual boot. Those days are long behind me. I'm building a mythbox out of old parts for my mother's birthday. I've got plenty of room. The installation gets to around the 75% mark of the additional software components and then craps out. It's never /exactly/ on the same spot when it craps out but always near that 75% spot.09:50
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TheGateKeeperLogicalDash: use the gparted livecd or similar http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php09:51
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cakruege2re09:51
korhalfbaxter_kylie, ATI, i installed fglrx, i did fglrxinfo to make sure the drivers were correct09:51
cakruege2i've a question regarding textmode install of 6.06.109:52
baxter_kylie_LogicalDash: Or the qtparted live cd or a knoppix cd will also have qt parted on it. As a rule I try to always have at least one knoppix cd around for emergencies.09:52
cakruege2anybody here that like to answer ?09:52
baxter_kylie_sherriff: can't say that I have, Sorry.09:52
LogicalDashTheGateKeeper: So, you're sure that shrinking the partition with this won't break Windows? I tried doing this with the Ubuntu install CD once and it didn't work out.09:52
der0b!ask09:52
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:52
TheGateKeeperbaxter_kylie_: could be your dodgy burner or something wrong with the hdd, badblocks will let you eliminate the hdd09:52
sheriffwell has anybody tried Wine with beryl-xgl?09:52
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bawnpai've used cedega on it sheriff09:53
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baxter_kylie_korhalf: Err. Don't know what to tell you there. Sorry about that. It seems pretty straightforward.09:53
tuxtuxciao a tutti09:53
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whysoi did sudo apt=get --purge remove beagle but its config is still there!09:53
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cakruege2I've installed ubuntu in text mode, installed grub to bootsector of the harddisk, reboot, started the grub in bootsector but the install didn't continue, only bashprompt09:53
whysoapt-get*09:53
cakruege2ideas?09:53
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korhalfbaxter_kylie, of course it is, the fact is GDM crashes now and keeps flickering09:54
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korhalfbaxter_kylie, to some blue screen of death kind of, telling me its configured wrong though i know its right09:54
TheGateKeeperLogicalDash: it should do the job, there are others as well if you feel more comfortable using them, make sure you backup everything first, other alternative is to buy another hdd & install a caddy system that is what I do09:54
whysois the snytax right? : sudo apt-get ==purge remove beagle09:54
baxter_kylie_TheGateKeeper: Badblocks indeed. That's ultimately very useful. Here's hoping it's not one of the dvd-roms.09:55
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LogicalDashthanks guys09:55
baxter_kylie_TheGateKeeper: Many thanks.09:55
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baxter_kylie_korhalf: Have you gotten it to work under one of the other methods?09:56
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TheGateKeeperbaxter_kylie_: from what you have told me my money is on your dodgy dvd or cd burner09:56
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TheGateKeeperbaxter_kylie_: np & good luck :-)09:56
LjLwhyso, no, use -, not =09:56
cakruege2any ideas why the installer didn't continue?09:57
whysoyeah that was typo, used - in the terminal tho09:57
whysosudo apt-get --purge remove beagle, and its directory is still there :(09:57
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LjLwhyso, --purge only removes systemwide configuration files. if you have a config directory that is *inside your home directory*, purge won't touch it09:58
LjLwhyso, also, the directory might be left there but empty. check that09:58
baxter_kylie_theGateKeeper: Hehe. Yes. If only amd would get their act together quicker on that integrated video/cpu I'd replace the whole laptop and get a new drive in that but as-is I've a while to make this 2002 clunker still work.09:58
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TheGateKeeperbaxter_kylie_: :-)09:59
whysoLjL: it left stuff like the text cache and config, :(09:59
whysowhat i was trying to get rid of09:59
LjLwhyso: which are located in your home directory, or not?09:59
whysois there a way to revert it all to the freshly installed state?09:59
LjLnot any kind of automated way09:59
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tabaskohi all10:00
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whysoyup10:01
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capashenhi !10:01
tabaskoi have problems with pypanel and obconf, cant get them run under edgy10:01
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capashencan someone tell me who to mount a cd who is protected (heroes 5 for exemple)10:01
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LjLwhyso: well if they're in your home dir, just remove manually. well, take care that you aren't removing anything else that *is* needed... but if you just have a directory called, say, ".beagle", and you want to get rid of any beagle-related stuff, then go for it10:01
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whysoLjL: thanks! was sorried that might mess up a reinstall but now i know its k10:02
macographerhas anyone gotten ImageMagick to work with PDFs on Ubuntu?10:03
arne__someone who knows how to fix a "broken" X?10:03
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macographeri installed the basic package with apt-get but it doesn't like them10:03
defryskarne__, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:03
SuperMiguelis Jinzora better than gnump3d???10:04
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arne__defrysk: thx10:05
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mbbwill there be another beta release before official Edgy?10:05
|thunder!fixmbr10:05
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:05
fdovingmbb: there will be a RC tomorrow.10:06
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|thunder!fixwinmbr10:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixwinmbr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:06
cakruege2I've installed ubuntu in text mode, installed grub to bootsector of the harddisk, reboot, started the grub in bootsector but the install didn't continue, only bashprompt. any ideas how to continue setup`?10:06
fdoving!fixmbr10:06
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fdoving|thunder: what are you looking for?10:06
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ZiRoI've changed the settings of adduser, however adding a user via the User and Groups negates any settings change, are these setting different to adduser - i thought it ran off-of adduser?10:06
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|thunderhow to fix the windows mbr on a xp drive. without nix or grub10:07
acusterthere's a dos command10:07
LjL|thunder: you can use a Windows XP recovery disc10:07
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LjL|thunder: get into console mode, and use the fixmbr command10:07
sheriffdoes wine work with gnome10:07
acusterbetter yet listen to LjL10:07
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|thundersheriff; yep10:07
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|thunderLjL; thanks.10:07
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defrysksheriff, wine works but better to find windows replacement apps in linux10:08
Xacis there a gui for configureing wlan with wpa?10:08
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Mattwj2005I am trying my first gentoo stage1 install10:08
Mattwj2005hopefully I configured everything right :)10:08
profoX`How can I initiate Hibernate from terminal ?10:09
|thunderLjL; do you know the proper dos flags to recursivly copy everyfile from the root of a drive over to another drive once the partition is setup ? I cant use nix like I would like to because the target drive is NTFS10:09
LjLprofoX`: i usually did /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh -- however i'm not entirely sure that initiates the same sequence that a hibernate from Gnome or KDE does10:09
defrysksheriff, http://librenix.com/?inode=669910:09
sheriffdefrysk : is it better than wine?10:09
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defrysksheriff, much better10:10
LjL|thunder, no, i don't, but typing "copy /?" should tell you...10:10
defryskwhat windows app do you want to use ?10:10
sheriffgames10:10
|thunderLjL; good lookin' out. thanks again10:10
sheriffmost of them r games10:10
|thundersheriff; wine for non directX games. cedega for DX GAMES10:10
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defrysksheriff, well then you might need wine/cedega10:10
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gregutihi all10:11
|thunderi found cedega on torrent sites10:11
scoatesI'm having a problem with apt and LC_ALL -- http://phpfi.com/165162 -- any ideas? (this is after a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy)10:11
sheriffdefrysk : ok thanks10:11
LjL|thunder, Cedega is commercial software. you should not be talking about piracy in here, so please don't10:11
sureshothey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such10:11
gregutigot a trouble with Beryl on Edgy Beta, on an ASUS laptop with an intel i945 graphical card10:11
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|thundergreguti; try #beryl10:12
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LjL!edgy > scoates10:12
crocd|thunder: does it work?10:12
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sureshot|thunder it is 15 us for a subscription10:12
cakruege2 I've installed ubuntu in text mode, installed grub to bootsector of the harddisk, reboot, started the grub in bootsector but the install didn't continue, only bashprompt. any ideas how to continue setup`?10:12
gnomefreakgreguti: #ubuntu-xgl also10:12
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ZiRois anyone prepared to help me? i've stated my problem twice and no-one has given it any notice..10:12
|thundercrocd; does what work ?10:12
gregutiok thanks (my trouble: video are black, i hear the sound and when i move it i see the images, but otherwise it stays all black)10:12
ZiRoI've changed the settings of adduser, however adding a user via the User and Groups negates any settings change, are these config settings different to adduser? - i thought it ran off-of adduser?10:13
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scoatesLjL: thanks10:13
LjLcakruege2: does it start in single user or multi user mode?10:13
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|thunderit didnt work on the game I wanted to play, so that would have been a waste of money anyways.10:13
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tectahmm i installed totem-xine-firefox-plugin and it plays movies from firefox but the sound is just static10:14
cakruege2@LjL: i'm not sure. i get a bash-login prompt and I can enter as root without password10:14
sureshot|thunder there is a lot of settings that you can change and a lot of versions of the engine it uses10:14
LjLcakruege2: sounds like single user mode... but you *were* asked for a password (well, user password, not root password) during install, weren't you?10:14
tuck3rwhat makes nano delete characters backwards ?10:14
cakruege2No i wasn't asked, the setup didn't continue. that is my problem.10:15
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LjLcakruege2: ah, you didn't say that, you said you installed and then rebooted... mind you, the setup normally does *not* ask you to reboot. or rather, when it does, it means the system has *finished* installing and will then boot normally10:15
ZiRotuck3r: insert?10:16
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cakruege2mmh, setup has rebooted after installing grub to /dev/hda3, no other questions10:16
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LjLcakruege2: so, why did you reboot? were you asked to? were you put into the menu of choices for some reason? (you know, the menu that appears when some passage of the installation fails)10:16
LjLcakruege2: i see. did it tell you that it was going to reboot?10:17
sureshothey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter with a 250gb drive and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such10:17
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cakruege2no, i've seen no special message (maybe it was to quick)10:17
LjLcakruege2: it should last about 15 seconds and then reboot automatically IIRC10:17
defrysksureshot, grub wont react fstab will probably10:17
cakruege2maybe i missed it because i was away10:18
LjLcakruege2: can't you install from the Desktop CD anyway?10:18
sureshotdefrysk what do you mean by that i am new here but know a little10:18
SuperMiguelcan any boddy read this?10:18
cakruege2I can't do an install from livesystem because than I cant choose to not write grub to MBR10:18
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IcemanV9yes SuperMiguel10:19
defryskftab wil check for files and boot will halt whebn the usbrelated suff is not there you need to hit enter then to continue boot10:19
gnomefreakSuperMiguel: yes10:19
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SuperMiguelwhich media server is better Jinzora or gnump3d???10:19
defrysksureshot, I think thats about it10:20
LjLcakruege2: ah, so when you said you wrote grub to the "bootsector of the hard disk", you actually meant of the partition...?  anyway, well, i'm not sure. i suppose i'd just install again and follow what's going on closely10:20
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arabiandos ubuntu have xgl and aiglx ?10:20
baxter_kylie_arabian: The next release will.10:20
LjLSuperMiguel: i see gnump3d packaged in the official repositories, while i don't see jinzora. so for that alone, i'd choose the former...10:20
sureshotdefrysk thanks did not want to mess up my laptop it is running smooth with dapper did not know how that would react .. this converter i have will cannect any sata drive to the usb it is sweet10:20
erUSULarabian: in edgy afaik10:20
Xachow can i install some packages on a box that has noc inet connecteion atm10:20
baxter_kylie_arabian: currently it's available via patches10:20
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defrysksureshot, Its what happens in my opinion10:21
defrysksureshot, for the rest there is only one way to find out10:21
sureshotdefrysk as long as i can continue that is the key10:21
arabianbaxter_kylie, can i patch it easy ?10:21
defrysksureshot, I think you can10:21
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defrysksureshot, again in my opinion10:22
defryskdont shoot me if i'm wrong10:22
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_fredhi im running ubuntu on a low spec box, it keeps timing out all connections because its becoming busy around this time each day - how can i check which system crons run daily?10:22
SuperMiguelthere is any to purge a server with its original values?10:23
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jewbileecan anyone recommend some good network games for linux?10:23
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arabianbaxter_kylie_, can i patch it easy ?10:23
jewbileefor ubuntu more specifically10:23
fdoving_fred: take a look in /etc/cron.daily/ and /etc/cron.d/10:23
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SuperMiguel there is any to purge a server with its original values? like unistan everything that i installed on it?10:24
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baxter_kylie_arabian: It take ssome work. There are how-tos all over the wiki10:24
LjL_fred: possibly you can cat /var/log/syslog | grep CRON10:24
Spec_fred: also check out /etc/crontab10:24
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Spec_fred: might as well look in /var/spool/cron as well10:24
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zorkkCan I open my linux's files on windows?10:24
SuperMiguelzorkk: yes10:25
utnubuzorkk, wine10:25
Speczorkk: probably10:25
jewbileeanyone know any good network games for ubuntu?10:25
defryskzorkk, there are ext3 apps for windows10:25
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_fredOct 18 21:23:38 woggis kernel: [134018.865651]  hda: lost interrupt10:25
Specjewbilee: bzFlag10:25
_fredbad HD?10:25
sureshotdefrysk i wont i will just ask how to fix it LOL you can always go into the safe option and reset things can you not10:25
zorkkdefrysk  where can I find some docs?10:25
jewbileewhat kinda game is that?10:25
bluefox83jewbilee, what doi you mean, network games?10:25
Spec!info bzflag10:25
ubotubzflag: a 3D first person tank battle game. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4.20051017ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 10166 kB, installed size 13412 kB10:25
jewbileelike10:25
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jewbileeonly games10:25
jewbileeonline*10:25
jewbileelol..10:25
defryskzorkk, google for it10:25
Specit's an online game.... bzFlag is the best10:25
jewbileealright10:25
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jewbileedo a lot of people play it10:25
hmrochahello10:25
defryskzorkk, easyer is it to make a vfat partition witch can be read by linux and windows no prob10:26
hmrochahow can i replace the xorg.conf when creating a livecd?10:26
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ianmacgregorCan someone tell me what that bottom bar is at: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=30972&file1=30972-1.jpg&file2=&file3=30972-3.jpg&name=T-ish-Brushed+Pack10:28
ianmacgregorIs that in the repos?10:28
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taliseinlooks like one of the elightenment 17 widgets10:29
m-o-r-i-zhello, anyone knows when the official release of "edgy eft" is ?10:29
taliseingoogle for e17 or enlightenment.org10:29
talisein!schedule10:29
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule10:29
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ianmacgregortalisein: Yes, but you can see from the top bar that he is using gnome10:29
taliseinenlightenment is more then just a window manager10:30
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m-o-r-i-zthanx ubotu10:30
jewbileei love ubuntu10:30
jewbileelol..10:30
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defryski love my wife10:31
defryskI use ubuntu10:31
defrysk:/10:31
jewbileei love your wife too ;)10:31
defrysksome frefer the other way around10:31
jewbileehahah, just playing10:31
defryskprefer10:32
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tabaskoso there is no pypanel users with edgy?  :(10:32
Xappeianmacgregor: I think that's an ordinary big sized gnome panel at the bottom...10:32
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ianmacgregorXappe: I was just thinking that because of the "grabbers" on the ends10:33
tabaskoI have pypanel installed, but still it gives : command not found10:33
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Xappeianmacgregor: yep, I have something similar on my desktop10:33
defryskXappe, I agree with some exotic Icon theme10:33
tabaskoand, thats odd :o10:33
sureshotdefrysk i just talked to someone on the edgy channel they said that the fstap and such is on the mbr of the usb drive all will work fine10:34
mwecommand not found? python is not found?10:34
mwethat would be really odd10:34
defrysksureshot, good :)10:34
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gnomefreaktabasko: how are you running it?10:34
sureshotdefrysk just thought i would let you know10:34
wizis it possible to make it so a mounted ntfs part is accessable by users other than root?10:34
noob1ok im new to the linx system im trying to load java but i get the manual install and i dont know what i click to get it plz help10:34
tabaskognomefreak, via command "pypanel"10:35
noob1i dont know what file type10:35
IcemanV9!java > noob110:35
jewbilee!java > jewbilee10:35
noob1ty10:36
defryskI thought you had the mbr on the disk of your laptop , but i guess you boot from usb when using edgy sureshot10:36
Xappeianmacgregor: this is how mine looks --> http://www.delta.se/~jon/Screenshot-20.png10:36
defryskthen it should work fine indeed10:36
wizanyone know?10:36
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taliseinwiz: try mounting with the users option10:37
gnomefreaktabasko: that doesnt seem to be the command to run for it i would look in the files to find out how (man page maybe)10:37
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ianmacgregorXappe: Nice10:37
ianmacgregorXappe: May I pm you?10:37
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Xappeianmacgregor: sure10:38
defryskwiz, sudo chown -hR <username> /whatever/10:38
GhostFreemanI need an /etc/fstab line that'll mount my Windows (NTFS) partition at /dev/sdb2 for read-only purposes to all users. Anyone care to provide?10:38
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taliseindefrysk: that won't work if the ntfs is mounted read only10:38
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defryskchmod it then10:38
gnomefreaktabasko: man page is no help btw :(10:38
defryskman chmod10:38
taliseinwiz: acutally you need to use the uid option at mount time10:38
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wiztalisein, how?10:39
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taliseinwiz: lemme doublecheck something10:39
wiztalisein, mount -O uid /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win ?10:39
taliseinno10:39
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mweumask=022210:39
taliseinyeah10:39
mwethat will work for mount10:39
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taliseinmount -o umask=0222 /mnt/win10:40
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talisein!umask10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
wizaha10:40
talisein!chmod10:40
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux10:40
wiztalisein, thanks, how do I add that to fstab with the same option?10:40
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tabaskognomefreak, yep :/10:41
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jewbileecan someone help me install a .jar file?10:41
mweyou can't chmod/chown files on an ro mounted fs10:41
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gnomefreaktabasko: im reading the config giles to see if it says anything10:41
mazsolahi all10:41
jewbileeim a little confused on how to do it10:41
whysosry offtopic but in hury for takehome exam: in java will int+double produce an error?10:41
taliseinwiz: after filesystem type, the other entries probably have "defaults" just put a comma and umash=022210:41
jewbileewhyso: no10:41
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wiztalisein, thanks10:41
taliseinerr, umask10:41
whysoty10:41
jewbileethe result will be a double10:41
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L3TUC3my laptop stopped booting in fullscreen10:41
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bluefox83O.o10:42
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PacketScano.010:42
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taliseinin C/C++, it won't produce an error.10:42
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taliseinit matters by language though10:42
L3TUC3any way to get it back?10:42
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taliseinL3TUC3: fullscreen? like the usplash..?10:43
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gnomefreaktabasko: i have it in my debian menu in ubuntu but its borked it dont open :(10:43
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lupine_85!info rutilt10:43
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ubotuPackage rutilt does not exist in any distro I know10:43
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L3TUC3talisein, the dell bios splash, the POST stuff etc are in 640-480 centered10:44
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tabaskognomefreak, yes.. so this might be broken package10:44
L3TUC3the login screen woks fine10:44
ripperi upgraded from dapper to edgy and now nautilus wont start, i've tried to get the system back to dapper w/o any luck, anyone got any ideas? i dont want to reinstall, and i know this is fixable.10:44
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gnomefreaktabasko: im not able to test it on dapper for a while10:44
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Guest34377what's the difference between http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/ and http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ ?10:44
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taliseinL3TUC3: the pretty brown Ubuntu w/ the startup messages, right? Instead you're just presented with scrolling text? Take a look at the output of 'dmesg' and see if there's any obvious errors10:45
Guest34377which one should i download?10:45
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gnomefreakGuest34377: nothing10:45
taliseinGuest34377: they are the same ^^10:45
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gnomefreakGuest34377: doesnt matter10:45
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gnomefreakGuest34377: as long as you download the right image10:45
RancidLMkinda off topic but i have a main PC.. and a laptop and both check multiple email pop accounts is there a way where i can have them both see the same email? would sharing the mbox files work or would i need a exchange server type thing going/10:46
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taliseinripper: can you open a terminal at all?10:46
ripperyes.10:46
ripperi've tried changing source.list back to dapper10:46
ripperdidnt work10:46
Guest34377gnomefreak: ok, then why r guys wasting disk space if it's all the same?10:46
taliseinripper: you might want to go to #ubuntu+1 actually. But anyways, in the terminal try to run nautilus and see what the error code is.10:46
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rippertalisein hang on10:47
taliseinchanging the source list backwards is usually not going to work10:47
gnomefreakGuest34377: im not wasting disk space and i dont know why there are 2 open10:47
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jewbileecan someone tell me where JDK installs to?10:47
gnomefreakthere is no safe way to downgrade ubuntu10:47
gnomefreak!downgrade10:47
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.10:47
strabeshello eveyone10:47
comtechsystemshi, anyone been having lots of Xorg freezes with edgy?10:47
taliseinno10:48
L3TUC3talisein, no the ubuntu stuff is there but it's small and centered (not full screen), there's no errors10:48
taliseinmaybe with compiz10:48
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shwagi need some more artwork10:48
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lupine_85RancidLM: change to IMAP if yopu can10:48
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lupine_85you*10:48
taliseinL3TUC3: like this? http://www.zdnet.com.au/shared/images/news/ubuntu/bootscreen.gif10:49
lupine_85edgy X freezes are apparently a kernel thing - I've been running my own custom one, so haven't noticed ;10:49
lupine_85;)10:49
ripperhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/BKg8ju48.html @ talisein10:49
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LjL!edgy > comtechsystems10:49
comtechsystemslupine_85: any idea what causes it?10:49
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L3TUC3talisein, yes but the ubuntu loading bar is really small10:50
L3TUC3+text10:50
taliseinripper: change your source list back to edgy, aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade. Use aptitude not apt-get, and reboot.10:50
lupine_85comtechsystems: nope10:50
jewbileecan someone tell em where Sun JDK 5 installs to?10:50
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IcemanV9jewbilee: whereis java10:50
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jewbileehuh?10:50
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taliseinL3TUC3: did you recently upgrade to dapper..?10:50
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IcemanV9jewbilee: in the terminal, type whereis java10:51
gnomefreakjewbilee: locate java10:51
talisein!usplash >talisein10:51
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SebSebSebHi10:51
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L3TUC3talisein, I had dapper on it before but wiped it and started fresh for Xgl + bery10:51
L3TUC3i started doing this this morning10:51
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L3TUC3the dell boot splash is tiny too10:51
L3TUC3(dell laptop)10:52
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rooobhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27268/ <-- this is the error message i get during dist-upgrade, anyone have ANY suggestions on how to get around it? i've tried -f install etc.. no luck.. my system is stuck10:52
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taliseinL3TUC3: oO. The BIOS splash is different suddenly? Have you been changing things in the bios?10:52
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SebSebSebI upgraded from Dapper to Edgy Intenret updates,  and my Gnome menu is screwed up,  loasd of programs that should be listed not their,  take for example Office it only has Evolution, and Open Office Writer,  what's the comamnd that I need to access the menu editor,  or whatever?  I need to do to fix this problem.10:52
josephhelp with cisco 350 wireless10:53
josephany110:53
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talisein!usplash >L3TUC310:53
josephmainly not getting IP address10:53
SeanTaterrooob: if you are /really/ desperate, you could tro moving that file, but I'm not sure hat effect that might have10:53
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taliseinUse those customization instructoons to change the resolution (step 6) to something bigger (or smaller)10:53
rooobSeanTater: i did try that.. it diddnt change anything10:53
crocdjoseph: mainly?10:53
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taliseinI don't know what to say about the BIOS splash being different. ;)10:54
L3TUC3talisein, nope didnt do anything in the bios10:54
ompaulSebSebSeb, go to #ubuntu+1 please10:54
sjbrownanyone know a quick way to pretty-ify xml?10:54
Noob1ok i need help now10:54
crocdjoseph: what does happen then10:54
ompaulit ain't released for a couple more days10:54
josephwell crocd I have managed to get it to work at times by a series of ifup / down10:54
SebSebSebospual:  is that a new channel?10:54
mirro-irchow to install compiz on ubuntu?10:54
rippertalisein why aptitude?10:54
ompaulmirro-irc, #ubuntu-xgl10:54
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ZaraxZHi!10:55
crocdjoseph: then what happens10:55
L3TUC3talisein, it just stopped scaling fullscreen all of a sudden10:55
ompaulSebSebSeb, well it is about ohh 10 months old at this stage10:55
ZaraxZi really need some help!10:55
josephthe card was working fine in breezy but not since dapper10:55
taliseinripper: it has a little bit more robust dependancy resolution. I think you're getting an error because different parts of GNOME are working under different ABI versions10:55
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Phlogistonanyone knows if its possible to sync the calender of a sonyEricsson mobile phone with korganizer?10:55
IcemanV9!compiz > mirro-irc10:55
josephi have several cards so it is not the card10:55
taliseinripper: the command line options are the same as apt-get, so its an easy transition10:55
Noob1i cant figure out how to load the java now that i have it.  i dubble click it and i get Could not open "sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb"10:55
Noob1Archive type not supported.10:55
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IcemanV9ZaraxZ: just state the problem/question plse10:56
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josephafter the ifup it does not get assigned  an IP via DHCP10:56
jewbileeok, im having some problems installing blue j because i cant find the JDK dirrectory10:56
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josephi get No DHCPOFFERS received.10:56
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crocddo you have multiple cards on one system joseph10:56
ZaraxZ!!! I have installet ubuntu on my laptop and when i try to log in i cant!! is says wrong username or password! Can i make a new user from recovery mode??!!!10:56
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La_PaRCaNoob1, why dont you use the java from the repositories?10:57
josephnot at the same time10:57
JowiZaraxZ, yes you can10:57
ZaraxZhow?10:57
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taliseinL3TUC3: ubuntu can't really modify your BIOS behavior, so I can't help you there10:57
crocdjoseph: what card is it?10:57
Noob1i cant figure out how to load the java now that i have it.  i dubble click it and i get Could not open "sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb" Archive type not supported. how do i install this10:57
JowiZaraxZ, "adduser myusername"10:57
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josephCisco Aironet 35010:57
iXcelong live Feisty Fawn!10:57
ompaulZaraxZ, use recovery mode, then (A) cat /etc/passwd and see the username in that then (B) do >>passwd username<< (C) reboot and log in10:57
La_PaRCaNoob1, use the java from the repositories10:58
L3TUC3talisein, I think I might've broken my graphics card then10:58
crocdwireless card then? hmm is your wireless signal stable?10:58
meatballhat9000the grouches over at ##php care not for my Apache/PHP problems - anybody know about how to correct the "download this file?" problem (php not parsing)?10:58
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Noob1i used the java off of your site and it dose not work10:58
L3TUC3because it does the same thing with video playback, refusing to resize the video10:58
taliseinL3TUC3: if you get the GDM login screen I'd think your graphics card is fine10:58
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josephyes the wireless association is stable10:58
IcemanV9Noob1: in the terminal, type sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jdk10:59
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josephthe router is merely a few metres away10:59
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crocdjoseph: it might be driver related is it a 64bit system?10:59
josephno10:59
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josephthe h/w is an Asus L3500H11:00
fliegenderfroschUbuntu 7.04 - The Feisty Fawn is announced! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-October/000212.html11:00
shwaghow do I make a desktop video demonstration11:00
shwag?11:00
josephI can confirm that if I go back to breezy every thing works11:00
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Noob1ty11:00
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shwagon my right hand screen...the cursor seems to go below the border of the screen...as if the right side screen is the same size of my large left side screen.11:00
josephbeyond dapper it doesn't , I have even tried 6.10 and the same11:01
ZaraxZThank you Jowi and ompaul!!!11:01
ZaraxZWill not forget it!11:01
crocdjoseph: then i think it is driver related to that card or even kernel issue, have you compiled your own kernel?11:01
josephno I am using vanilla 6.0611:01
IcemanV9Noob1: if you follow the !java instruction, then java would be installed and running on your box ;)11:01
Noob1well i have to get off that chat11:01
Noob1lol11:01
crocdtry compiling your own kernel. itm ight be due to that11:02
Jowinp Zajjko11:02
Noob1my cuzen whanted the computor11:02
Jowinp ZaraxZ  even11:02
josephcrocd how do I go about that11:02
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IcemanV9ZaraxZ: enjoy your new Ubuntu! :)11:02
crocdgo to ubuntu website help for that, they instructions are fairl;y good. I haveto go I have a early start tomorrow11:03
sharperguyargh, why wont amarok play streams anymore, it used to work fine11:03
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crocdjoseph: read throught the notes at least twice before doing it. the process has many steps and if you miss something out you can cause problems.11:04
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taliseini hate wireless11:04
crocdtalisein: wireless works fine, i have a 3com pcmcia adaptor that worked fine with ubuntu11:05
Noob1IcemanV9, i have installed it but firefox still says its not instaled11:05
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IcemanV9talisein: still have a problem with wireless? ;)11:05
rooobTo all who might have looked at my pastebin and wondered what would fix.. sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb   did the trick :)11:05
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BrMiHi08hi11:06
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taliseineh, I just use my box of 1000 ft of cat 5 cable :)11:06
BrMiHi08I am in need of some help...11:06
jewbileei want 1000 ft of cat 5 cabling :(11:06
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taliseincosts like $30 if you shop around11:07
IcemanV9hm, wireless or 1000 ft of cable ??11:07
Noob1IcemanV9: i have installed it but firefox still says its not instaled11:07
IcemanV9Noob1: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin (it's for firefox java plugin)11:08
BrMiHi08I recently got a new wireless card for my computer and linux picks it up, my only problem is I do not know how to give it a name like my current one which is wlan0 does anyone know how?11:08
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BrMiHi08I and been searching a lot..11:08
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MacSlowGreetings everybody!11:08
Noob1ty11:08
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chopchop_hi, i run amarok and mplayer at the same time under xfce and when i tried to gain the volume in amarok, the sound suddenly turned off, and even after i restarted the box, it's still off. Any help???11:08
taliseinchopchop_: in a terminal run to run alsamixer and see if things are muted or turned down11:09
IcemanV9BrMiHi08: i don't think you can give it another name .. just go wireless and enjoy n surf the net!11:09
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taliseinI suppose you could also doubleclick the speaker icon11:09
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chopchop_talisein: tried, i turn everything but no use11:09
crochatHello !11:09
BrMiHi08IcemanV9 when the new card is the only card it won't let me configure anything11:09
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taliseinchopchop_: turn off your speakers, unplug them, wait 10 seconds then plug them back in11:10
BrMiHi08my current card is the one that has been here since the install11:10
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chopchop_talisein:11:10
chopchop_talisein: ok11:10
IcemanV9BrMiHi08: iwconfig or ifconfig wlan011:10
crochatDoes anybody know if partimage (client) is already on the Ubuntu Dapper CD ?11:10
meatballhat9000anybody know where to find Apache's error log in Ubuntu's file tree? (and no... I don't know Linux all too well)11:10
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bobby_meatballhat9000: /var/log/apache211:11
crochatmeatballhat9000: /var/log/apache211:11
meatballhat9000Thanks!!!11:11
brettm/var/log/apache2/11:11
brettm;-)11:11
ZaraxZanother question: IS there an easy way to get internet going on my laptop (thinkpad a21m)11:11
IcemanV9crochat: no, it is in universe repo11:11
crochatIcemanV9: Aarg...11:11
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Noob1hum its still not working (here comes a noob question) can u play runescape on linux11:12
crochatIcemanV9: Is there a partimage recovery CD based on the Ubuntu kernel ?11:12
brettmIcemanV9: just use the live cd11:12
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brettmIcemanV9:and fire up gparted11:12
jamtasticI found a bug in apt-proxy - what should I do?11:12
brettmwhoops I meant crochat11:12
ZaraxZhttp://www.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/thinkpad/tpa21m/ i cant understad it but can some1 please help me?11:12
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chopchop_talisein: still nothing11:12
IcemanV9crochat: partimage is not part of kernel by default (livecd or not)11:13
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crochatbrettm: gparted will not be able to restore my partitions, will it ?11:13
taliseinchopchop_: hmm..11:13
Tomcat_ZaraxZ: It has intel integrated lan... why shouldn't it work?11:13
jewbilee!mp3 > jewbilee11:13
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IcemanV9Noob1: did you restart the firefox?11:13
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Tomcat_ZaraxZ: The driver has been in Linux for ages, so all you need to do it configure the network the way it is on other PCs on your network.11:14
Noob1ues i closed out and reopend11:14
Noob1*ya11:14
ZaraxZTomcat_: but it cant findmy network device!11:14
doomzhi, can any one help me with ubuntu installation ? I bought a new machine and it hangs during the boot cd loading.11:14
chopchop_talisein: ???11:14
BrMiHi08IcemanV9 - what file does that iwconfig pull up?11:15
Tomcat_ZaraxZ: ifconfig in console doesn't say anything?11:15
taliseinchopchop_: run mplayer on whatever you did before and tell me what audio output method its using (alsa, esd, ...)11:15
doomzI was told to try the BETA version of edgy, I get the same error but now - it tells me it cant read the file system and redirects me to busybox11:15
doomzwhen I get there, I cant find my hard drive in the dev directory11:15
IcemanV9BrMiHi08: it just give you information on wlan0 - no file11:15
doomzany idea ?11:15
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Noob1IcemanV9: i closed out of fire fox shuld i restart the computor11:16
BrMiHi08Icemanv9 - well that pulls stuff up for my origanal wireless card, I want to add a new one or something..11:16
IcemanV9BrMiHi08: more info on iwconfig - man iwconfig11:16
profoX`!repositories11:16
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:16
profoX`!repositories > jewbilee11:16
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IcemanV9Noob1: no need to restart your pc, just firefox11:16
chopchop_talisein: the output method is definitely alsa11:16
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ZaraxZTomcat_: Not much...My network device is: loopback interface (lo)11:17
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chopchop_talisein: mplayer says "alsa-init: using device default"11:17
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doomzhelp ? :( tried to dig the forums... no luck... upgraded bios... no luck again11:17
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Noob1nope im still getting it even after that11:17
taliseinchopchop_: hmm, so you do have a /dev/dsp right?11:17
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Noob1!java > Tom11:17
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Noob1opps11:17
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chopchop_talisein: yep11:18
Tomcat_ZaraxZ: Mh... weird. Unfortunately I can't help you more, gotta get back to work. But I'm sure there'll be somebody else here.11:18
taliseinchopchop_: does your sound card setup have a headphone out jack you can check?11:18
Noob1!java > Noob111:18
IcemanV9Noob1: in the terminal, java -version11:18
ZaraxZTomcat_: thanks anyway!11:18
jamtasticHey everyone - is there any software for Ubuntu that would let me configure a 'virtual' network out of 'virtual' servers, cables, routers, switches etc?11:18
talisein!alsa>talisein11:18
doomzthe error is: PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6: 20000@5000000 for 0000:01:00.0          after that I get that the files system cannot be mounted11:18
compengican someone guild me how to upgrade from gaim 2.0beta3.1 to 2.0beta4?11:18
crochatIs there a live CD which can be used with partimage ? Actually, I need a kernel with a r1000 module on this CD...11:18
WulongWhats the name of Gnome/Ubuntu's package tray notifyer?11:18
chopchop_talisein: no, i checked it all11:18
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ZaraxZCan someone help me to fix my network on my computer? Linux cant find the device11:18
chopchop_talisein: not that stupid :)11:19
Tomcat_jamtastic: If you want VPN, try "tinc".11:19
IcemanV9Noob1: does it say the version of java? if so, then it should be working11:19
taliseinchopchop_: eh its not stupid. Something is funky. Do you mind running through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems ?11:19
Noob1no it says that a plug in is needed11:19
winstonhey where's the config menu for screesavers in dapper??11:19
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doomz:(11:20
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IcemanV9Noob1: then it is not working. did you issue the command, 'sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin' ?11:20
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Noob1java version "1.4.2"11:21
Noob1gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)11:21
Noob1thats the java thing11:21
sureshotwhyso you left me a message i saw it as i was closeing my irc program ... i am just now getting back on for a few what did you need11:21
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chopchop_talisein: damn,got no module runs, thanks for help11:22
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IcemanV9Noob1: whoa. okay. two different versions. are you running breezy?11:22
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taliseinchopchop_: the sound modules weren't loaded?11:22
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Noob1i dont know11:22
IcemanV9Noob1: it is gnu java by default.11:23
Noob1i got this disk from a teacher11:23
chopchop_talisein: yep, something like that, im trying to load it up11:23
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chopchop_talisein: lsmod says no11:23
Noob1all i did was click install11:23
sureshotwhyso are you there11:23
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ZaraxZCan someone help me with my network problem? Linux cant find my network card!11:23
IcemanV9Noob1: type "lsb_release -a", then tell me the name of codename11:24
taliseinlsmod|grep snd returns nothing? If the reboot didn't help, check dmesg or /var/log/messages for errors.11:24
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Noob1LSB Version:    n/a11:24
Noob1Distributor ID: Ubuntu11:24
Noob1Description:    Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)11:24
Noob1Release:        5.1011:24
Noob1Codename:       breezy11:24
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IcemanV9don't paste it here, dude11:24
DShepherdNoob1: please dont paste here11:24
Noob1ok11:25
Noob1i was told to11:25
DShepherdNoob1: use the pastebin..  !pastebin11:25
Noob1i think11:25
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DShepherd!paste11:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:25
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taliseinits not a big deal, just do it in the future :)11:25
IcemanV9Noob1: ok. it makes sense. breezy use java4.11:25
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brettmaybody know how to use just the live cd and store data to usb thumb drive?11:26
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DShepherdbrettm: sure.. pop in the livecd.. plug the usb.. and save to it.11:26
taliseinbrettm: plug in the usb drive, and save files to the thumbdrive. Or do you mean, store all changes to gnome to the drive?11:26
Noob1so what do i do know to get it IcemanV911:26
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brettmtalisein: yeah, sorry, ewan't specific enough11:27
sureshotif anyone sees whyso let him know i was asking about his message i missed i have to go to band pratice at this time see ya all later11:27
ZaraxZCan you change the network device to eth0 in a console?11:27
brettmtalisein: my hard drive died11:27
IcemanV9Noob1: sudo aptitude install j2re1.411:27
Noob1kk11:27
taliseinbrettm: hrmm, I know that was a feature that was under development, but I don't know if its in11:27
brettmtalisein: I want to be able to use my laptop while I wait to get a nerw one11:27
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brettmtalisein: I read something about a 'casper-cow' disk label something or the other11:28
taliseinbrettm: hold on a second11:28
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Code-E!ati > code-E11:28
BrMiHi08I ctill cannot get this to work.......11:28
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Noob1hum it still says i need the plug in IcemanV911:29
brettmhey < i just found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence11:29
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IcemanV9Noob1: don't forget to restart the firefox11:29
brettmtalisein: I found a howto suddenly ;-) thanks alot though11:29
BlueEaglebrmihi08: did you do !wireless?11:29
BlueEagle!wireless11:29
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:29
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Noob1i did... all u have to do is close out right11:29
taliseinbrettm: np, I was looking for the same page ;)11:30
IcemanV9yes11:30
winstonAnyone know where's the config menu for screesavers in dapper??11:30
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Noob1i just did agan and i still get it11:30
BrMiHi088w8335 [Libertas]  802.11b/g Wireless that is what my card is...11:30
IcemanV9system > pref > screensaver11:30
brettmSyste,->Preferences->Screensavers11:30
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BrMiHi08*88w8335 [Libertas]  802.11b/g Wireless11:30
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IcemanV9!java11:32
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository11:32
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Noob1i did i thought11:32
clustyare there any packages that help you view the apache logs in a cleaner way?11:32
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IcemanV9Noob1: i don't know what's missing on your box. you may want to re-read it again. it's pretty straightforward instruction. :/11:33
IcemanV9clusty: gedit ?11:34
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Noob1how do i enable Multiverse repository11:34
jewbileehey guys, quick question, how do i move an application to another workspace?11:35
jewbileewithout having to close and reopen11:35
taliseinNoob1: you need the java browser plugin? apt-get install sun-java5-plugin11:35
BreetaiHelp! All of the sudden I have no sound. Even after rebooting, I can see the modules are loaded, but when I go to alsamixer, nothing shows up, also, I have usb sound modules loading for some reason.11:35
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talisein? that's the second person today.11:35
Noob1talisein, i get am error when i do that11:36
taliseinNoob1: what's the error?11:36
xuserAnyone has wpa working in ubuntu?11:36
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Noob1E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)11:36
taliseinNoob1: "sudo apt-get sun-java5-plugin" sorry :)11:36
strabesxuser: yes, type sudo apt-get install network manager11:36
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IcemanV9talisein: breezy, not dapper on Noob1's box11:37
strabesbreetai: amixer set Master 31 unmute11:37
taliseinooh.11:37
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IcemanV9breezy uses java4 not 5 five.11:37
Breetaistrabes no, there are no channels or anything showing up11:37
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j-swimhey folks anyone use wine? wondering if the current state of wine is worth using instead of getting crossover office.11:37
taliseinNoob1: if that doesn't work try "sudo apt-get install sun-java4-plugin"11:37
Breetai/dev/dsp is there11:37
xuserstrabes: k11:38
jonah1980hi how do i check how new my nvidia driver is?11:38
taliseinor use synaptic and search for java plugin... ;)11:38
andy_hi, I have a Dell XPS 400, and it has an integrated sound card.  Is there anyway to make this work under ubuntu (or even linux for that matter)?11:38
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taliseinandy_: probably. boot up on a LiveCD and check11:38
wubrgamerhey guys11:38
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strabesfor all people with sound problems: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide11:38
wubrgamerwhere is my crontab kept ?11:38
wubrgameron my system?11:38
IcemanV9j2re1.4 is java4 plugin for firefox (fx)11:39
andy_talisein: I am under ubuntu now...11:39
wubrgamerany ideas ?11:39
wubrgamercron11:39
taliseinwubrgamer: use "crontab -e" to edit it.11:39
wubrgamerwhere is it kept ?11:39
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narayanawhat is the best way of installing sun's jre?11:39
habeebHello, does the line matters in conf files like bash.rc? For example if I add an alias command in the start of the file, will it give me an error?11:39
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andy_narayana: follow instrutions on java.com11:40
taliseinandy_: try going through the sound problems guide above11:40
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IcemanV9wubrgamer: type 'whereis crontab' .. /etc/crontab (for system-wide)11:40
narayanaandy_: when i do the .bin file it doesn't set the paths. so java BLAH doesn't work11:40
strabesyeah the sound problems guide i posted is really good11:40
wubrgamerhuh11:40
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habeebdmesg >> ~/.bashrc would replace the whole bashrc with the output of dmesg, right? How can I make it that the outpud of dmesg, is just added to the end of bashrc?11:41
IcemanV9wubrgamer: in the terminal, type whereis crontab11:41
crimsun>> appends.11:41
taliseinhabeeb: >> appends, > overwrites11:42
Noob1when i did that i got E: Couldn't find package sun-java4-plugin11:42
habeebtalisein: appends = adds on the end of the file, or on the start?11:42
talldavecan any one give me any clues as to where i may find a tutorial on how to write a GUI to enable me to run a series of commands to convert an audio file?11:42
taliseinhabeeb: end of the file. "prepend" is the word for the beginning11:42
Breetaihey I am part there, I have an intel8x0 for some reason I have usbsnd showing up as well, how do I get rid of the usb sound?11:43
IcemanV9Noob1: there is no package with that name :/11:43
Madpilot!java11:43
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository11:43
habeebRight, talisein <:11:43
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Noob1oh11:43
habeebIs there a "prepend" one too, talisein ? :P11:43
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MadpilotNoob1, see the link the bot just provided11:43
Noob1ok11:43
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taliseinhabeeb: not that I know of without looking at bash's man page.11:44
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habeebtalisein: ok, thanks!11:44
narayanais there .dep for jre?11:44
habeebHello, does the line matters in conf files like bash.rc? For example if I add an alias command in the start of the file, will it give me an error?11:44
wubrgameragain11:44
LjL!javadebs > naranha11:44
wubrgamerwhere is my personal crontab kept ?11:44
wubrgameri'm so confused11:44
LjL!javadebs > narayana11:44
wubrgamerwhere is the file ?11:44
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IcemanV9Noob1: look for information that is related to 5.10 not 6.06 :)11:44
StuntCockHas anyone had a successful install on an Asus A8V-VM motherboard with SATA drives?11:44
Noob1ok11:44
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IcemanV95.10 = breezy, 6.06 = dapper11:45
Lim-DulHello11:45
Noob1witch is better / ezer11:45
Lim-DulDoes anyone know if apt-get leaves any logs?11:45
habeebLim-Dul: dpkg does in /var/log/dpkg.log11:45
Lim-DulI'll look11:45
habeebLim-Dul: afaik apt leaves too, but I dont remember the filename11:45
menkohi, I have a few questions: 1. How do I set custom menu item keyboard shortcuts/accelerators to stay premanently? I set the hide items accelerator to , instead of ctrl + H (by hovering over and pushing , ), but it went away after you logout and back in.11:45
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narayanaLjL: thanks11:46
menko2. Is there a simple gnome-panel clock applet, that doesn't have links to evolution.11:46
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Lim-DulHm11:46
Lim-DulI don't seem to have a dpkg.log11:47
taliseinevolution's tentacles run everywhere. you can not escape!11:47
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IcemanV9menko: system > pref > keyboard shortcuts11:47
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sergevn_Does anyone has used Crossover office on MS Office 2003?11:48
menkoIcemanV9: that doesn't set menu shortcuts, like view -> show hidden files11:48
menkoIcemanV9: I managed to set it to , , but it changes back.11:48
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BrMiHi08okay... I figured out what I need to do is change the device name11:48
habeebLim-Dul: aptitude is at "/var/log/aptitude" for sure.,11:49
IcemanV9menko: ah. well. i don't know beyond keyboard shortcuts. sorry.11:49
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habeebLim-Dul: and from what I see, the dpkg log is : "/var/log/dpkg.log" :/11:49
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strabesmenko: do you mean make nautilus show hidden files by default?11:51
strabesor do you mean to make keyboard shortcuts permanent11:51
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Noob1how do i install the unixodbc package? im in synaptic11:52
Noob1and i do not see it11:52
strabesnoob1: do you have all your repositories enabled?11:53
strabesi see it11:54
IcemanV9unixodbc is in main repo11:54
Noob1i dont even know what thay are strabes11:54
menkostrabes: no, I mean to change the shortcut for show hidden files permanently, so I can just push "," to show/hide them.11:54
IcemanV9already installed by default, i believe11:54
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strabesnoob111:55
Noob1if thay are then it is11:55
sergevn_Noob1: What sources do you have in your  /etc/apt/sources.list ?11:55
strabesnoob1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unixodbc11:55
TheGateKeeperNoob1: Shut synaptic down do this http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories then restart synaptic & you will have more luck11:55
Noob1ahhhhh so much red11:55
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strabesnoob1: do what thegatekeeper told you to, then type the command that i posted - it should work11:56
iammisci have a laptop which i want to install ubuntu on. However, i need to dual-boot windows because sometimes, I have to use it. The hard drive on this computer is 40gb and I want to know how I should partition it using qt parted. Should i keep 20gb windows, 20 ubuntu or something else?11:56
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Noob1kk11:57
strabesiammisc: that will work11:57
strabesmy windows partition is 20gigs11:57
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Lam_if my router doesn't broadcast it's ssid, can i still connect to it?11:57
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iammiscLAm_: yeah11:58
strabeslam_ you should be able to enter the ssid into network-manager11:58
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Lam_neat. thanks iammisc and strabes11:58
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strabesiammisc: you might want to make a fat32 partition in between windows and ubuntu so that you can share files between them11:59
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Lam_one other question. does the ssid have to be alphanumeric, or can i have symbols and stuff?11:59
strabesLam_: no problem11:59
strabesLam: not sure; do you really need that much security? lol11:59
mjrLam_, not sure, but don't recommend non-alphanumerics11:59
iammiscstrabes:can't linux now read/write ntfs partitions using fuse and the ntfsprogs11:59
Lam_i don't need *that* much, but any amount would be neat :)11:59
mjriammisc, somewhat11:59
strabesiammisc: i dunno but i would not risk wasting my time11:59
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mjrssids are not a security feature12:00
mjrif you want security with wlan, you encrypt12:00
strabesmjr: i know; i wasn't thinking12:00
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Lam_but disabling the broadcast and using symbols in the ssid name would be pretty cool12:00
strabesi dunno why i typed that12:00
starsky_Human theme is the best!!!12:00
Lam_i'm already encrypting at wpa2 anyways12:00
andy_Hi all, I have an HDA-intel audio card and I read that by reinstalling ALSA from scratch will solve the "no sound" problem.  Could someone help me do this???12:00
strabesthat's good12:00
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